[00:25] <bati> hello, can I have a dumb question about pairing bluetooth devices under kubuntu?
[00:31] <Colorthemap> How to I hide my internet protocal adress
[00:32] <bati> Colorthemap: use Tor or anonymous proxy...
[00:32] <Colorthemap> google Tor?
[00:32] <Colorthemap> ty
[00:35] <bati> somebody help me to connect my frigging BT mouse to kubuntu, it works instantly under ubuntu, I am just not so skilled with kubuntu flavor
[00:36] <bati> and I hate to use touchpad ;))
[00:37] <Colorthemap> Okay so in linux how can I get some legal wireless drivers.  NO softwear patent violations, nothing of the sort?
[00:37] <Colorthemap> preferably mint
[00:37] <Colorthemap> or Ubuntu
[00:37] <moetunes> !wifi
[00:37] <Colorthemap> or Kubuntu
[00:46] <bati> toshiba bluetooth mouse, kubuntu... anybody who can help?
[00:47] <moetunes> I've bothered with bluetooth
[00:47] <moetunes> !bluetooth | bati
[00:50] <bati> moetunes: I am just amazed, that in plain ubuntu it works with defaults, but not so in kubuntu :/
[00:51] <moetunes> bati:  I think the bluetooth app is called   bluedevil   I can't offer more help then that...
[00:51] <moetunes> !info bluedevil
[00:51] <moetunes> says it is optional
[00:51] <moetunes> ...
[00:53] <bati> yep, bluedevil is up and running, it can see my mouse, but even after several tries (of course I pressed that little connect button) no success, and google is no help
[00:54] <moetunes> bati:  anything in dmesg about the mouse connecting?
[00:55] <bati> moetunes: that is the main source of problem... nothing in the logs
[01:05] <moetunes> bati:  from here - http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=27531&start=0&hilit=blueman - it seems finding and installing blueman is an option
[01:14] <bati> moetunes: I`ve tried, no change... it seems like my BT iface is read only :)
[01:16] <Roey> howdy!
[01:16] <Roey> I wonder if anyone else has encountered this:  if the input I'm typing on the Bash command-line exceeds the length of the screen, it wraps around...to the beginning of the current line.  It should put in a linefeed before that.  This is consistent for me for Bash instances across both ttys and different graphical shells.  I'm on Kubuntu 10.10, but have had this problem for well over a year.
[01:16] <bati> moetunes: but still, it amayes me... underlying architecture under ubuntu anf kubuntu is same, yet they behave so differently
[01:17] <Roey> moetunes:  your nick reminds me of a soundtrack for some cutesy anime.
[01:20] <bati> brb
[01:33] <moetunes> !info dash
[01:33] <moetunes> Roey:  dash is the default now iirc - what makes you think you are using bash?
[01:34] <Pici> moetunes, Roey: dash is a replacement for /bin/sh, not for /bin/bash
[01:34] <Roey> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/053
[01:34] <Roey> it was that.
[01:35] <Pici> Simple :P
[01:35] <Roey> moetunes:  so Kubuntu moved wholesale to Dash and is not using Bash as default anymore?
[01:35] <Roey> I realized that ash must be /bin/sh
[01:35] <Roey> I use bash, personally
[01:36] <Pici> No. Both Ubuntu and Kubuntu use bash as their default shell.
[01:36] <Pici> But /bin/sh is symlink to /bin/dash
[01:39] <Roey> Pici:  ahhh okay.
[01:40] <Roey> Pici:  oh, maybe you can help me figger this out
[01:40] <Roey> my Keyboard Settings do not seem to be respected by any app
[01:41] <Pici> Roey: I actually don't know much/anything about KDE, sorry.
[01:41] <Roey> I have Capslock mapped to an additional control, keyboard layout switcher mapped to two shift keys pressed together, and repeat delay to 200ms.  I upgraded to the latest PPAs and now these settings no longer seem to be respected, even though they show up as I configured them in System Settings
[01:41] <Roey> ah
[01:41] <Roey> ok
[01:41] <Roey> Riddell:  have you heard anyone mention the above issue/
[01:41] <Roey> ?"
[01:58] <Snowhog> Are there any KDE Community Forum mods here?
[02:39] <deusr> hi
[02:39] <deusr> someone online?
[02:42] <Snowhog> deusr: Your question?
[02:44] <deusr> Snowhog, I wonder why the GTK applications appear with the name in English on the menu of kubuntu. In this case, if used another language.
[02:50] <Snowhog> deusr: Sorry, but I don't have an answer. It is likely a library issue with the Gnome app and KDE. May I ask, are you German?
[02:51] <deusr> Snowhog, no, Brazil
[02:51] <Snowhog> deusr: Ah.
[02:52] <deusr> Snowhog, Why?
[02:53] <deusr> sorry, my bad ingles
[02:53] <Snowhog> Your user name. Thought de was for Germany.
[02:53] <deusr> ehhe
[02:55] <deusr> in brazil, God = Deus and the "R" of deusR is Rá
[02:55] <deusr> sun god
[02:55] <Snowhog> deusr: God of the Sun. hehe
[02:56] <Snowhog> or would it be Sun God
[02:56] <deusr> Snowhog, is horus
[02:56] <deusr> Snowhog, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus
[02:57] <deusr> you said it might be a lib, but what?
[02:59] <Snowhog> deusr: Not all Gnome apps 'play nicely' with KDE. What app is giving you this behavior?
[03:03] <deusr> Snowhog, There is the following, I will see if I can find an example to show you
[03:37] <Alan502_> Hey,m
[03:38] <Alan502_> I'm tired of having to remove files from the command line on removable disks, using dolphin just sends them to the .Trash-100 folder which, ironically, is in the same removable disk
[03:38] <Alan502_> Is it posible to deactivate this feature? It's useless and annoying
[03:39] <Rigmarole> have you tried shift+delete?
[03:39] <Alan502_> No
[03:39] <Alan502_> Lets see...
[03:39] <Alan502_> better :)
[03:39] <Alan502_> is there a way to make it default for removable disks though?
[03:40] <Rigmarole> Not that I know of. You might be able to change the hotkey, but of course that would be for every folder
[03:40] <Rigmarole> *shortcut
[03:41] <Alan502_> Ah well, ok
[03:41] <Alan502_> Thanks a lot :D
[03:41] <Rigmarole> No problem :)
[04:13] <deusr> hello
[04:13] <deusr> someone in tehy channel?
[04:13] <deusr> the*
[04:14] <Rigmarole> I am...for what it's worth :P
[04:43] <valorie> !ask | deusr
[05:17] <BATi> is here somebody who can help me pair my BT toshiba mouse with kubuntu? under plain ubuntu it works, but live cd kubuntu just see the mouse but cannot pair with it...
[05:23] <DasKreech> BATi: do you have bluedevil?
[05:25] <BATi> DasKreech: sure I do, it is 10.10 live cd, bluedevil runnning
[05:26] <BATi> DasKreech: I am just confused, not an idiot :)
[05:31] <Rigmarole> what bluetooth program does ubuntu use? maybe you could run that
[05:31] <DasKreech> BATi: :-) Hard to tell the difference depending on the level of confusion
[05:33] <GabrielYYZ> ubuntu uses the gnome bluetooth applet
[05:34] <BATi> DasKreech: well, confusion level is pretty high, because under plain ubuntu on that computer there is no problem... and there is nothing BT related in logs :)
[05:35] <GabrielYYZ> BATi: on the bottom right of the plasma desktop, there's an "arrow" pointing up, did you try clicking there, clicking the "bluetooth monolithic" and trying to configure the device?
[05:36] <GabrielYYZ> disclaimer: i don't use bluetooth, so i'm limited, all i can provide are suggestions
[05:37] <GabrielYYZ> BATi: actually, it's the bottom right on the panel, next to the clock*
[05:39] <BATi> GabrielYYZ: yep, was there, done that... BT works, that kubuntu machine is aware of that mouse, but refuses to connect to it... even tried to conect to it from shell
[05:42] <GabrielYYZ> BATi: is the device trusted? (there's a button on that same place that says trust)
[05:45] <BATi> okay, to re-state my problem - I have tried every "user friendly" way of configuring the device, like pressing "connect" button on the mouse and so on... but it still confuses me that under plain ubuntu it works but under kubuntu it is not working :/
[05:47] <GabrielYYZ> well, i don't use bluetooth, so beyond user-friendly, i'm lost with that
[05:52] <BATi> well, I think that my friend will not be  very happy... but at least I managed to convert his wintel notebook to linux :)
[06:01] <DasKreech> BATi: You can probably install the Gnome applet to get it to work
[06:06] <BATi> DasKreech: well, I have to support that machine, so I want it as vanilla as I can get it to... :) it is my friends notebook, he have no experience with linux, he was just disappointed with windows and I did a little showcase of distros to him and he chose kubuntu...
[06:09] <BATi> BTW not kubuntu related, but somebody know of other CAD software than varicad?
[06:12] <DarthFrog> BATi: Google SketchUp
[06:14] <valorie> BATi: all the ubuntu apps are available easily to us, as the kub. apps are to Gnome users
[06:15] <BATi> DarthFrog: oh, jeez... maybe for google earth buildings, but it is definitely not acceptable for machinery engineering... :)
[06:15] <DarthFrog> BATi: I use it for woodworking.   It's good for that and you can't beat the price.
[06:18] <BATi> valorie: yes, I do know... I did not find any thing better, but who knows, maybe there is something what is not in software center... like vendetta online :)
[06:21] <BATi> DarthFrog: okay, in that case they have another license sold... I like it too, I was just assuring myself on the decision
[06:35] <BATi> oh jeeebus, just rebooted rhe server instead of workstation... too many screeens and keyboards :)
[06:36] <DarthFrog> When I was teaching classes on Linux to newbies, I always told them to sit on their hands before pressing the Enter key when they had root priviileges. :-)
[06:37] <DarthFrog> Not to say that I've not rebooted the wrong machine myself. :-)
[06:41] <BATi> DarthFrog: I must say that I have crippled half of t-mobile network in czech republic once, because of wrong acl"s... :) but it was after three days marathon of upgrading
[06:42] <DarthFrog> BATi:  I bow before your BOFH awesomeness. :-)
[06:43] <BATi> DarthFrog: old times, my friend... now I have no serious job
[06:47] <BATi> DarthFrog: more fun I had was at dhl it services... like explainining somebody in arabia, that he cannot connect to vpn because of solar flares :)
[06:48] <DarthFrog> There are no outlaws of physics. :-)
[06:53] <BATi> DarthFrog: well, it was like charm, hook, sinker and half mile of line :) but seriously, if somebody calls you from a pub, you should not add him to ACL for VPN
[06:54] <DarthFrog> Unless it's his VPN, of course.
[06:54] <mrd_> www.yahoo.com
[06:54] <mrd_> 10
[06:54] <mrd_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:55] <BATi> DarthFrog: DHL, man, DHL.... strict rules... i was senior security analyst :)
[07:03] <BATi> DarthFrog: BTW cool way to store passwords and crypto keys... totally locked up rack physicaly, but I had the data from it three hours later :)
[08:10] <jdcnyc> kl
[09:10] <skafti> hey'
[09:10] <skafti> i need advise with writing iso file, can someone help me
[09:11] <skafti> the problem is the file is uif how do i convert it to iso
[09:12] <DasKreech> skafti: http://aluigi.altervista.org/mytoolz.htm
[09:17] <an1> hey. im not able to login into kubuntu (amd64) via the gui. i need to get into the console and login and then startx. when i type my username and password(in gui login), the login screen comes back in a loop. if its of any help, i couldnt install it until i removed the quiet splash boot option.
[09:17] <skafti> thanks man
[09:23] <DasKreech> an1: look in your ~/.xsession-erros file
[09:30] <an1> DasKreech: it says QMetalObject::invokemethod: No such method Konsole::application::loadcommandlineoptionsfornewinstance()
[09:30] <an1> x-terminal-emulator: fatal io errorL client killed
[09:31] <an1> konsole(1423) konsole::sessionmanager::~Sessionamanger: konsole sessionmanager destroyed with sessions still alive
[09:33] <an1> QMetaobject *
[10:20] <n8w> hey
[10:20] <n8w> is it possible to set a backround for the lock screen?
[10:21] <n8w> n possible completely change the unlock dialog
[10:29] <skafti> i downloaded uif2iso but were do i open it to use it ?
[10:35] <collabra> skafti: open a terminal and type: man uif2iso
[10:38] <olskolirc> whats the command to bring my panels back on lucid please?
[10:48] <tristan3199us1> anybody here?????
[10:48] <bicho> nope
[10:49] <tristan3199us1> ok
[10:49] <bicho> but, why the question, need something?
[10:51] <valorie> !ask | tristan3199us1
[10:52] <bicho> asking to ask questions is a bitch question dont u question that?
[10:52] <tristan3199us1> yeah.. i have an annoying black square on my screen.. new to kde.. how do i get rid of it...http://tinypic.com/r/2qnv1gm/7
[10:53] <bicho> tried reboot?
[10:53] <tristan3199us1> yeah.. couple times..
[10:53] <tristan3199us1> is it related to plasma or cairo-dock??
[10:54] <valorie> I experienced it before the last updates
[10:54] <valorie> which kde are you running, tristan3199us1
[10:54] <valorie> I only saw it in Amarok, in some of the applets
[10:55] <tristan3199us1> i will try to check.. new to kde...... where are all the menus.. i cant find any apps besides what i add to cairo-dock from gnome...
[10:55] <valorie> in 4.5.4 they seem to be gone again
[10:55] <valorie> tristan3199us1: an easy way is the help menu of any KDE app
[10:55] <valorie> Help > about KDE
[10:56] <tristan3199us1> did anybody look at my screenshot..
[10:56] <valorie> oh ugh, you are still in ubuntu
[10:56] <valorie> sort of
[10:56] <valorie> yes, but it looks like you have no toolbar
[10:57] <tristan3199us1> i have both to see which i like more.. started with ubuntu because it seemed like that was what kubuntu and xubuntu were based on..
[10:57] <tristan3199us1> i do have no toolbar.. ahhhhhhhhhhh
[10:57] <valorie> well, all have the same stuff underneath
[10:57] <tristan3199us1> i tried to get it back.. to no avail
[10:57] <valorie> but the desktops are a bit different
[10:57] <tristan3199us1> kde is supposed to be more like windows??
[10:58] <valorie> ah, you have it on top
[10:58] <valorie> is this a netbook?
[10:58] <valorie> tristan3199us1: not sure what you mean
[10:58] <tristan3199us1> yeah.. but i installed desktop versions i think
[10:58] <valorie> my husband uses windows, and I don't see much similarity
[10:59] <valorie> see on the right, where it says search and launch?
[10:59] <tristan3199us1> friends use my laptop time to time, i want them to be able to figure it out.. they get lost in gnome and i end up helping them the whole time.. its pretty annoying.. so i thought mabey kde would be easier for anybody to just pick up and go.. but it seems like its not the case
[10:59] <valorie> there should be more choices for you there
[11:00] <valorie> it's always been easy for me
[11:00] <valorie> so I guess it's different depending on what people like
[11:00] <valorie> Gnome drives me insane
[11:00] <valorie> rather quickly
[11:00] <valorie> lol
[11:00] <tristan3199us1> it shows that i can add "widgets" and desktop settings
[11:00] <valorie> but I have nothing against those who prefer that or windows or macOS or whatever
[11:01] <tristan3199us1> and gnome is not the best i agree.. but its better than windows
[11:01] <valorie> widgets are the same as what gnome calls plasmoids
[11:02] <tristan3199us1> dont really use any of the plasmoids or widgets.. just extra work on my tiny computer.. tho i am used to gnome i think kde looks and feels better when it works.. i dont want a live usb.. i just want my gnome/kde to work together till i decide what i really want
[11:03] <valorie> http://hanschen.org/2010/03/04/10-things-you-might-want-to-do-in-kde-sc-4-4/
[11:03] <valorie> might give you a few ideas
[11:03] <tristan3199us1> it had an annoying but useful menu the fist time that took the whole screen including where this black hole is.. but now.... ahhh... annoyed..
[11:04] <valorie> some of the widgets are really useful, depending on what you want to do
[11:04] <tristan3199us1> valorie: did you see http://tinypic.com/r/2qnv1gm/7
[11:04] <valorie> yes, of course
[11:04] <tristan3199us1> thats my real problem
[11:04] <valorie> right
[11:04] <tristan3199us1> what can i do about that.. is cairo-dock or some other gnome app doing this to me
[11:04] <valorie> as I said, I had that problem a few weeks ago, but it's gone now
[11:04] <valorie> I have no idea what caused it
[11:05] <tristan3199us1> how can i get to a terminal or something to update it..
[11:05] <valorie> I have no gnome apps that I can think of
[11:05] <valorie> alt + F2 gets you to krunner
[11:05] <valorie> you can run anything from there, including Konsole
[11:05] <tristan3199us1> on my screenshot it shows all  my options.. except cairo-dock didnt get captured in the picture
[11:05] <valorie> not sure what cairo-dock might me
[11:06] <valorie> be
[11:06] <tristan3199us1> some stupid toolbar launcher thingy
[11:06] <tristan3199us1> its just a pretty toolbar thats useless
[11:06] <tristan3199us1> lots of people like it tho.. its cool.. youtube it
[11:06] <valorie> ah well, apt-get uninstall cairo-dock
[11:06] <valorie> :-)
[11:07] <tristan3199us1> lots of updates going on now.. and done
[11:08] <valorie> cool
[11:08] <valorie> the important bit is finding what you like, as you said
[11:08] <valorie> the computer should serve you, not the other way around
[11:09] <valorie> with that said, nighters all
[11:09] <tristan3199us1> ahhh. nooooo
[11:10] <tristan3199us1> your the only one here
[11:10] <tristan3199us1> what about my damn annoying black hole of nothingness
[11:12] <tristan3199us1> invalid operation uninstall
[11:12] <rork> use remove instead
[11:12] <rork> `apt-get remove cairo-dock`
[11:12] <tristan3199us1> use sudo apt-get remove cairo-dock
[11:13] <tristan3199us1> thanks rork that did it
[11:13] <tristan3199us1> but still have blackhole on my screen
[11:13] <tristan3199us1> did you see my screenshot
[11:14] <rork> yes, do windows go over it or are they blacked out also?
[11:14] <tristan3199us1> blacked out
[11:14] <tristan3199us1> i have to work all my windows above it if i want to see it all
[11:15] <tristan3199us1> plus cairo-dock is running.. but i uninstalled it.. wtf
[11:15] <tristan3199us1> i also have no toolbar
[11:15] <tristan3199us1> on the bottom of my screen
[11:15] <rork> how did you install kde?
[11:16] <tristan3199us1> i installed ubuntu whatever was before 10.10... upgraded.. then added the kde-desktop from the repos...
[11:18] <tristan3199us1> when i boot it shows kubuntu.. and at shutdown as well... but gnome was first.. when i get to the login screen i can choose gnome or kde
[11:18] <tristan3199us1> kde has a few kinks... gnome works fine...
[11:18] <tristan3199us1> what the heck is this black square tho..
[11:19] <rork> well I was thinking it might be a broken panel or something
[11:19] <tristan3199us1> and why is cairo-dock still working if i uninstalled it..
[11:19] <tristan3199us1> if i use the konsole to reset my panels.. will that effect my gnome install.. thats the only one working right so far..
[11:20] <tristan3199us1> i like how i have it... now i want kde how i like that as well...
[11:21] <rork> can you try to kill the cairo-dock?
[11:22] <tristan3199us1> ill try but i know thats really not the problem..'
[11:22] <tristan3199us1> i did quit cairo-dock.. but it didnt accually quit all the way..
[11:23] <tristan3199us1> i have pidgin and firefox icons spinning in the black hole now..... ahhh... stupid computers
[11:23] <rork> hehe, idd, they should just do what you think they should do :P
[11:24] <BajK_> hey I'd like to capture a media stream (mp3 stream?) i.e. online radio from 16:00 to 17:00 today, how do I manage that?
[11:25] <tristan3199us1> i right clicked cairo-dock went to quit.. hit yes.. but it still works... is it figgin designed by the hulk to never quit or something...
[11:25] <tristan3199us1> tempted to do a hundred on the highway and throw it out the window... jk
[11:27] <rork> have you configured your kde desktop or was it like this when you installed it?
[11:27] <tristan3199us1> whats with the damn black square of hate anyways... valorie said it happend to her until she updated. and she doesnt have gnome installed so its definatly kde
[11:28] <rork> have you configured your kde desktop or was it like this when you installed it?
[11:29] <Anpu> hi, i cant find new kubuntu logo in some better quality. anyone has some tip where to look, or some link?
[11:31] <tristan3199us1> i installed the kde desktop from the software repos in gnome... then (of course) made sure it accually worked.. but it doesnt show a desktop it shows some menu with a bunch of huge icons like internet, office, or whatever they were.. as far as i was concerned it looked ok, except it looked like some notebook version or something... is that normal for kde to show a strange menu at the beginning???????? i think its related to "s
[11:32] <tristan3199us1> it simply clears my desktop
[11:32] <tristan3199us1> did you see my screenshot
[11:32] <tristan3199us1> http://tinypic.com/r/2qnv1gm/7
[11:33] <BajK_> audacity just records nothing no matter which recording device i set
[11:34] <rork> tristan3199us1: your message stoped here: `i think its related to "s`
[11:35] <tristan3199us1> earch and launch" but everytime i click on a search and launch button it does nothing or askes about widgets.......... i have no ability to configure my desktop except now the search and launch thing isnt there when i start up kde... just a black desktop with not enough options
[11:35] <tristan3199us1> stupid black square drives me nuts...
[11:35] <tristan3199us1> please help
[11:36] <tristan3199us1> you see my pic of my screen yet? im missing my toolbar with all the apps...
[11:37] <tristan3199us1> alt-f2 everything in kde i guess... lol
[11:39] <rork> tristan3199us1: right click the desktop > add panel
[11:39] <tristan3199us1> also if i click search and  launch it simply clears my screen (except for this annoying black square) and i have to click top right to find this #kubuntu chat again
[11:40] <tristan3199us1> add panel isnt an option if i right click the desktop
[11:40] <rork> and the panel on top can't be used?
[11:42] <tristan3199us1> run command is on top
[11:42] <tristan3199us1> then add widgets
[11:43] <tristan3199us1> then remove this desktop
[11:43] <tristan3199us1> then lock screen
[11:43] <tristan3199us1> then leave
[11:43] <tristan3199us1> then desktop settings
[11:43] <tristan3199us1> thats it
[11:45] <tristan3199us1> you still there???
[11:45] <rork> yep, just trying stuff
[11:45] <tristan3199us1> thank you take your time... i just want this working RIGHT.. not ok
[11:45] <rork> you're using the netbook desktop it seems. That explains why you can't add the panel.
[11:46] <tristan3199us1> should i go to gnome (ubuntu) and uninstall the gnome desktop.. and just add a seporate partition instead.. even tho thats alot of work and memory
[11:46] <rork> go to System Settings > WorkSpace Behaviour > Workspace > Set Workspace type to Desktop > Apply
[11:47] <tristan3199us1> i have no system settings...
[11:48] <tristan3199us1> i have menu.. witch says close.. only... desktop  (self explanitory) and page one... who knows what that is.. and seach and launch with does the same as desktop
[11:48] <tristan3199us1> turns out page one brings me like weather and stuff
[11:49] <tristan3199us1> still did you see my screen shot... what is this black square i hate so much....
[11:49] <rork> What about Alt F2 > Start typing "system settings"
[11:49] <tristan3199us1> i cant even imagine what is causing thing..
[11:50] <tristan3199us1> got it
[11:50] <tristan3199us1> now what
[11:50] <rork> go to Workspace Behaviour
[11:52] <tristan3199us1> workspace apperence and behaviour, window behavior::
[11:52] <tristan3199us1> ??
[11:53] <rork> Workspace appearance and behaviour I think
[11:53] <tristan3199us1> rork can we pm for a min because i have only a few lines of visable chat..
[11:53] <tristan3199us1> and i see what your telling me to look for
[11:53] <tristan3199us1> now what
[12:09] <tristan3199us1> i was good... i fixed it till i logged offf and back on...
[12:09]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[12:10] <tristan3199us1> i have to push Alt-
[12:44] <collabra> ttt
[13:31] <an1> hey my xsession crashes when i try to login into kubuntu 64 bit via gui. is says QMetaobject::invokemethod: no such method Konsole::Application::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance()
[13:31] <an1>  x-terminal-emulator: Fatal IO error: Client killed
[13:31] <an1> (.xsession-error file content)
[13:31] <an1>  it keeps asking for uname and password in a loop. i need to go into console mode and startx always, and it works. how can i login from gui directly? if its of any help, i needed to remove quiet splash boot option during installation
[13:31] <an1>  or else it would just stop working
[13:36] <rork> an1: I don't really know but it looks like your missing some files, maybe you should check your install (`sudo apt-get check`)
[13:36] <collabra> an1: are you using 10.10 or 10.04?
[13:42] <an1> 10.10
[13:52] <bigjools> is there a current recommended best SIP phone app for Kubuntu?  Twinkle doesn't play so nice with Pulseaudio :/
[13:58] <collabra> bigjools: i could be way off,.. but, ekiga,.. i think does sip.
[13:58] <collabra> bigjools: i haven't checked... one sec.
[13:58] <bigjools> collabra: thanks, it does but I was looking for a native QT app
[14:00] <collabra> bigjools: no, offense, but if you know enough that you want a 'highbrow' native qt app,... what's the point in asking,... you either know of one,.. or have the capacity to research for yourself.
[14:01] <bigjools> collabra: read my question again, I  was looking for a "recommended" one
[14:01] <bigjools> no offence
[14:01] <collabra> bigjools: none taken,...
[14:01] <collabra> !recommendations
[14:01] <collabra> !recommends
[14:02] <bigjools> heh
[14:02] <bigjools> the best I could find was a page about a BoF at UDS Jaunty
[14:02] <collabra> bigjools: yeah,...question,... why specifically qt?
[14:03] <bigjools> gtk apps on kubuntu drive me insane
[14:03] <bigjools> but if it works then I'll take it.  Although some integration with Kontact would be awesome
[14:03] <collabra> kubuntu drives ME insane.
[14:04] <bigjools> I tried plain ol Ubuntu once and managed an hour before heading back :)
[14:04] <collabra> bigjools: what version do you have loaded.
[14:04] <bigjools> maverick
[14:05] <collabra> bigjools: no problem with broken kwin?,... (compiz)
[14:05] <bigjools> nope, it's fine.
[14:06] <collabra> bigjools: not pissed off with pulse audio?
[14:06] <bigjools> extremely so
[14:06] <bigjools> but since that got foisted on us in maverick I have no choice
[14:06] <bigjools> Twinkle would have worked if I could remove Pulse
[14:07] <collabra> bigjools: what about a sound wrapper?
[14:07] <bigjools> how do you mean?
[14:07] <collabra> convert pulse to alsa, or something?
[14:07] <bigjools> pulse has alsa emulation, right?
[14:07] <collabra> bigjools: you might look,... what soundsystem does Twinkle use?
[14:08] <bigjools> alsa or oss
[14:08] <haeggis> anyone?
[14:08] <collabra> bigjools: you might look under 'audio' packages to find an alsa or oss wrapper,.. or, converter.
[14:09] <haeggis> how do I change server in Quassel IRC?
[14:09] <bigjools> right, good idea.
[14:09] <collabra> bigjools: that will work with pulse
[14:09] <bigjools> haeggis: File -> Networks -> Configure Networks
[14:09] <bigjools> collabra: I'll take a look, thanks for the pointer.
[14:10] <collabra> bigjools: np
[14:10] <collabra> bigjools: drop me a pm if i'm not at my computer.
[14:10] <bigjools> you bet
[14:10] <collabra> bigjools: lemmy know how it goes.
[14:10] <haeggis> thnx bigjools
[14:10] <bigjools> np
[14:10] <Hedron> hi all, I have a problem with firefox
[14:11] <haeggis> I'm trying to connect to loic.AnonOps.net, but it won't work
[14:11] <Hedron> when I am viewing page, part of the page just falls behind the rest when I am scrolling or selecting text
[14:11] <Hedron> what can I do to correct this
[14:11] <Hedron> it is quite annoying
[14:13] <Hedron> I think it has to do with the video card of the laptop I am using
[14:13] <Hedron> it is intel gme965
[14:13] <Hedron> however I had no such problem before switching to kubuntu
[14:14] <haeggis> same here Hedron...I've had a lot of hassle since I changed to Kubuntu
[14:15] <Hedron> I personaly changed to kubuntu in hope for less problems than openSuSE, what I see however does not leave me with this impression
[14:15] <haeggis> computer stalls, firefox crashes, VLC hangs up, Audacious loops
[14:15] <Hedron> what the hell is going on with linux lately
[14:16] <haeggis> I changed to Kubuntu 'cause the word was that KDE is more stable than Gnome
[14:16] <Hedron> I am using linux for more than 10 years, it never was so buggy
[14:16] <haeggis> so far I'm not impressed
[14:16] <Hedron> you may whant to try fedora 14 with kde - very good
[14:16] <Hedron> however my Intel card has problems with it
[14:16] <haeggis> how's the GUI?
[14:17] <haeggis> I kinda like the look of Kubuntu
[14:17] <Hedron> it is the same
[14:17] <Hedron> except the wallpaper
[14:17] <Hedron> kde is kde no matter the distro
[14:17] <Hedron> consistent look
[14:17] <haeggis> and NOT happy with Intel?
[14:17] <Hedron> also much better artwork for login manager
[14:17] <Hedron> intel GME 965 is the worst video card ever
[14:18] <Hedron> I have had ATi, nVidia and Intel
[14:18] <haeggis> have no idea what's on this old Toshiba of mine
[14:18] <Hedron> so far intell is the worst
[14:18] <Hedron> lspci
[14:18] <haeggis> I know it's Intel
[14:18] <haeggis> but that's about it
[14:18] <Hedron> just run it and you will know the model
[14:18] <Hedron> lspci
[14:18] <haeggis> in terminal?
[14:19] <Hedron> yes
[14:19] <Hedron> actually Fedora works fine with my card, except I have to use two monitors from time to time and it is slow with composition enabled
[14:19] <Hedron> otherwise all ok
[14:19] <haeggis> Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML
[14:20] <Hedron> 915 works great, I had laptop with it
[14:20] <haeggis> okay
[14:20] <Hedron> you should not have problems with this one
[14:20] <haeggis> thank's for the tip
[14:20] <haeggis> I'll check out Fedora
[14:20] <Hedron> also have in mind, that for some packages they have older versions
[14:20] <Hedron> if you whant to use latest kde
[14:21] <Hedron> you need to add the following repo:
[14:21] <haeggis> there is ONE sole reason that I haven't completely converted to Linux
[14:21] <haeggis> and that's Winamp
[14:21] <Hedron> qmmp, audacious, clementine, amarok
[14:21] <Hedron> xmms
[14:21] <Hedron> after amarok, I have never looked back to winamp
[14:21] <Hedron> http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/
[14:22] <Hedron> just follow the instructions
[14:22] <haeggis> Amarok crashes, loops, hangs, stalls
[14:22] <hauni> hi guys. i'm a programmer and i like to have control of what i type. in the new 10.10 i just installed there is a feature that actually deletes loads of letters when hitting backspace 3 times ... that's plain annoying, how can i  deactivate that?
[14:22] <JUaskajuaska> Hello. How I open a new tab with a determinated name (session) of the tab? konsole --new-tab --session "Neww :D" don't works... Help please.
[14:22] <haeggis> it's the worst mediaplayer I have EVER tried
[14:22] <Hedron> haeggis: amarok crashes
[14:22] <Hedron> haeggis: this is something new
[14:22] <Hedron> haeggis: I use it every day
[14:23] <haeggis> tried it for two weeks, but eventually I gave up
[14:23] <Hedron> haeggis: but you allways can try something else. qmmp is almost winamp
[14:23] <Hedron> haeggis: even uses winamp2 skins
[14:24] <haeggis> ooh?
[14:24] <haeggis> but does it have all the amazing features Winamp has?
[14:25] <haeggis> for instance; I have a disk that crashed, now I have 35000 songs titled 00001.mp3-35000.mp3
[14:25] <haeggis> winamp can find tags to them all, and mp3 renamer renames all files
[14:26] <phoenix_firebrd> anyone using bluetooth. i am having problem sending files using bluedevil. need help
[14:26] <haeggis> haven't found ANYTHING remotely like that in any linux help sections or repositories
[14:26] <Hedron> haeggis: you have a pm message
[14:26] <Hedron> haeggis: as for the features - not everything
[14:27] <Hedron> but for basic player it is good
[14:27] <phoenix_firebrd> winamp is a amaziong software, nothing is equal to it
[14:27] <phoenix_firebrd> amarok is very good
[14:27] <Hedron> haeggis: also you can always emulate winamp under wine, though it is not a very good idea
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> its takes time to get accustomed to it
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> Hedron: tried winamp with wine, works fine
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> Hedron: the skin is rendered good
[14:29] <Hedron> yes, but when there are so much alternatives, the question is why
[14:29] <haeggis> if one run Winamp under Wine, you will not get the new skins
[14:29] <haeggis> OR the features of Winamp 2.x
[14:30] <phoenix_firebrd> Hedron: i compared winamp's sound quality and features with qmmp, amarok, xmms2,audacious
[14:30] <haeggis> so...you're better off with Audacious
[14:30] <Hedron> I have not used winamp since version 2, so I have no personal idea how it works there
[14:30] <phoenix_firebrd> Hedron: winamp is better than those
[14:30] <phoenix_firebrd> but i am using amarok, its very good
[14:30] <Hedron> I presume so, but I hate using wine for apps, which have alternatives, personal choice
[14:31] <haeggis> Winamp in it's latest distro is simply amazing
[14:31] <phoenix_firebrd> the equalizer presets are not good as winamp
[14:31] <phoenix_firebrd> anyone using bluetooth. i am having problem sending files using bluedevil. need help
[14:31] <Hedron> bluedevil is good, however there are bugs
[14:31] <phoenix_firebrd> qmmp skins are very small
[14:32] <Hedron> I had problem pairing a bluetooh mouse lately
[14:32] <haeggis> would love to help you, but Bluetooth on my fresh Kubuntu is waaay off line
[14:32] <Hedron> what error you get?
[14:32] <haeggis> I can ONLY send files
[14:32] <phoenix_firebrd> first it was working fine, then after a kernel update bluetooth stopped working
[14:33] <Hedron> I cannot browse some devices, other can, also bluetooth HID works fine
[14:33] <haeggis> can't connect to passive equipment, and can't recieve files
[14:33] <Hedron> as for usin it with alsa, maybe you need to have some additional packages and config
[14:34] <Hedron> bluez-alsa to be precise
[14:34] <phoenix_firebrd> i uninstalled the kernel , yesterday it was working fine, but not today, checked with a livecd , works fine
[14:34] <Hedron> what the hcitool scan returns?
[14:34] <Hedron> do you have list of devices
[14:35] <Hedron> maybe the new kernel is not properly configured
[14:35] <phoenix_firebrd> Hedron: i am getting the list of devices and i am able to browse the services usinf "sdptool browse"
[14:36] <phoenix_firebrd> Hedron: sending of files and browsing of the phone memory card is not possible
[14:36] <Hedron> this is strange
[14:36] <haeggis> btw; I'm trying to join the war, but I simply get to this page, and don't really know what to do next; http://bit.ly/a/warning?url=http%3a%2f%2fpastehtml.com%2fview%2f1c8i33u.html&hash=e6iR3X
[14:36] <Hedron> what war?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:37] <JUaskajuaska> I want change the the session name (in tab) of konsole, I type:  dcop $KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION renameSession "ajuu"
[14:37] <JUaskajuaska>  , but stderr say me:  ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!       ¿¿HedronWhy= ;(
[14:38] <JUaskajuaska> I want change the the session name (in tab) of konsole, I type:  dcop $KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION renameSession "ajuu"
[14:38] <JUaskajuaska>  , but stderr say me:  ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!       ¿¿Hedronwhy?*
[14:38] <haeggis> I found the page; http://pastehtml.com/view/1c8i33u.html
[14:38] <JUaskajuaska> shit!
[14:38] <FloodBotK1> JUaskajuaska: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <FloodBotK2> JUaskajuaska: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <phoenix_firebrd> Hedron: the kernel 2.6.35-23 was creating problem ,but i uninstalled it and using 2.6.35-22 which was working previously
[14:38] <haeggis> but I still cannot get Quassel to change server
[14:39] <haeggis> @Hedron: The war against those trying to close down Wikileaks
[14:39] <Hedron> aha
[14:40] <Hedron> phoenix_firebrd - you can try with <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:40] <haeggis> so...to help, I must first connect to a server called loic.AnonOps.net
[14:40] <Hedron> phoenix_firebrd: http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-to-compile-kernel-on-ubuntu-1004.html - check out this link first
[14:40] <haeggis> but, I don't seem to be able to do it
[14:41] <JUaskajuaska> http://pastebin.com/5uNA3w1s
[14:41] <tsimpson> JUaskajuaska: KDE4 uses dbus not dcop
[14:41] <phoenix_firebrd> Hedron: i tried 2.6.37-x, but the graphics driver is not compatible
[14:42] <JUaskajuaska> tsimpson: --" :S ty but I don't have dbus installed :p
[14:42] <Hedron> phoenix_firebrd: 2.6.37-x is in rc stage
[14:42] <Hedron> I use <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:42] <Hedron> it fixes a lot of problems
[14:42] <JUaskajuaska> How I can make this? (change name session with dbus or konsole or etc?) pff..
[14:42] <tsimpson> JUaskajuaska: yes you do, all KDE apps use DBus to communicate, use the qdbus tool instead of dcop
[14:44] <JUaskajuaska> I don't change the session name with kdbus, uhh u.u , ty
[14:45] <tsimpson> JUaskajuaska: try qdbus $KONSOLE_DBUS_SERVICE $KONSOLE_DBUS_SESSION 1 "ajuu"
[14:46] <JUaskajuaska> tsimpson: Method name '1' is not a valid member name.
[14:47] <tsimpson> JUaskajuaska: sorry try: qdbus $KONSOLE_DBUS_SERVICE $KONSOLE_DBUS_SESSION setTitle 1 "ajuu"
[14:48] <tsimpson> or use "org.kde.konsole.Session.setTitle" instead of just "setTitle"
[14:48] <JUaskajuaska> Yeah! Thank yooooooooou:))
[14:49] <JUaskajuaska> tsimpson: amm... But if I change to other tab "ajuu" return the last name, why? :S
[14:50] <JUaskajuaska> The tab is "wd" i use "dbus $KONSOLE_DBUS_SERVICE $KONSOLE_DBUS_SESSION setTitle 1 "ajuu"
[14:50] <JUaskajuaska> " and change to other application or other tab and rename to "wd" why?
[14:51] <tsimpson> hmm, try changing 1 to 2
[14:51] <tsimpson> qdbus $KONSOLE_DBUS_SERVICE $KONSOLE_DBUS_SESSION setTitle 2 "ajuu"
[14:52] <JUaskajuaska> If I put "2" don't change..
[14:53] <JUaskajuaska> :-(
[14:54] <tsimpson> I think it's due to bash setting the title itself
[14:55] <JUaskajuaska> tsimpson: Isn't the title self
[14:57] <tsimpson> JUaskajuaska: I'm not sure why its not working then, try asking in #kde and see if they know more
[14:58] <JUaskajuaska> tsimpson: u.u okay... ty
[15:09] <jacksonje> whenever I try to update to the kubuntu update ppa my X fails to launch. I'm using the nvidia blob driver. Any suggestions?
[15:13] <collabra> jacksonje: i suggest using 10.04 LTS... 10.10 is just too buggy,... and not meant to be stable.
[15:14] <jacksonje> with that advice I'd rather use another distribution
[15:14] <collabra> jacksonje: some find 10.10 to be great, with little problems... I and others have found it very bugridden.
[15:15] <collabra> jacksonje: the latest software needs time to mature... 10.10 is just not ready.
[15:16] <jacksonje> I develop kde stuff, I'm not using old versions
[15:16] <jacksonje> perhaps someone has actual advice on updating 10.10 to the updates ppa
[15:17] <collabra> jacksonje: hey,... you need advice on upgrading,...
[15:17] <collabra> !upgrade
[15:18] <collabra> jacksonje: have you tried a 'clean' install?
[15:18] <jacksonje> I did a clean install
[15:18] <jacksonje> it works fine
[15:19] <jacksonje> I update to kde 4.5.4 through the update ppa and x fails to start
[15:19] <collabra> jacksonje: it's just when you use the ppa
[15:19] <jacksonje> it only fails on my nvidia machine, not on my ati machine
[15:19] <collabra> jacksonje: ah,.. well, maybe the ppa has a bug... sounds like it.
[15:21] <collabra> jacksonje: you know, these ppa's only carry the latest software... i'm not sure it's de-bugged thorougly before it's published.
[15:22] <jacksonje> when you update to an updates ppa, do you do a normal update or a special update command?
[15:22] <jacksonje> I noticed that it removes things like the kde workspace when you do a normal upgrade, but I do a kubuntu-desktop install afterwards
[15:23] <collabra> jacksonje: I've always did a normal update: apt-get upgrade  .... then if there are still packages left over,.. i do a : apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:23] <jacksonje> I'll try the dist-upgrade afterwards and see if that makes a difference
[15:24] <collabra> jacksonje: it'll only make a difference if there are packages being left behind.
[15:24] <jacksonje> well considering it removes essential packages with a plain update
[15:25] <collabra> jacksonje: perhaps you should load the ppa,.. get it all up and running,... then do an: apt-get dist-upgrade\
[15:25] <collabra> apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:25] <collabra> i meant
[15:25] <jacksonje> I'll try that this next attempt
[15:26] <collabra> see if you can install it all at once
[15:26] <jacksonje> so the next question is, if it fails again, is there a way I can turn on my network manager wifi connection without kde?
[15:26] <goodtime> #ubuntu
[15:26] <collabra> jacksonje: if that doesn't work,... upgrade all you can with just an: apt-get upgrade,.. then, : apt-get dist-upgrade to follow up.
[15:26] <goodtime> sorry
[15:28] <ewae> Hi, I am looking for c++ coders
[15:28] <ewae> for an advice
[15:28] <collabra> have you tried /join #c++
[15:29] <ewae> ok i try thanks
[15:29] <collabra> i know there's a c++ room here at freenode
[15:29] <collabra> list the rooms
[15:30] <jacksonje>   ##c++
[15:38] <sobczyk> could there be a reason why my kubuntu can't access a samba share but windos xp can?
[15:39] <sobczyk> it tell me it had a timeout
[16:29] <avefenix> hola
[16:52] <Elephantman> hi :) how can I make a samba shared folder use cifs instead of smbfs (address is currently smb://) ?
[16:56] <collabra> Elephantman: you have to edit the smb.conf file
[16:57] <collabra> Elephantman: i believe it's in /etc or /etc/samba
[16:57] <collabra> Elephantman: from there you can change the setup to use cifs
[16:58] <Elephantman> ok, looking at that collabra, thanks :)
[17:00] <collabra> Elephantman: no problem,...ah, if you are using a GUI, there are programs you can use. like : gadmin-samba
[17:08] <Elephantman> collabra: gadmin-samba seems to make it a bit complex since I'm not really into becoming a samba leet :) searching for the directive to add ton the conf file to move to cifs, seems more efficient
[17:12] <collabra> Elephantman: good luck :)
[17:12] <DiogenesW> servus
[17:18] <phoenix_firebrd> is it 2.6.36 stabe. is it avaible in ppa?
[17:18] <anon__> hi. I'm on 10.10, and by curiosity I just installed kde-desktop. Now on Gnome, pages displayed on Chromium look as if the fonts don't have smoothing applied. Under Appearance -> Fonts, I tried to change settings there, nothing affected Chromium. Then in Chromium I changed fonts, also no improvement. And this only happened after I installed KDE. Anyone has an idea on how to retrieve font-smoothing?
[17:19] <anon__> (originally I was on Gnome)
[17:19] <phoenix_firebrd> anon__: did you restart chrome after changing the font settings
[17:20] <anon__> yes I did
[17:20] <phoenix_firebrd> try restarting xserver
[17:20] <anon__> but what's confusing me is that fonts everywhere else are just fine..
[17:21] <phoenix_firebrd> anon__: that happens to me too. try setting the hinting to slit
[17:22] <anon__> yup. did that. tried slight/medium/full, switched between RGB/GBR/etc.. nothing..
[17:23] <phoenix_firebrd> is this happening to any other browser?
[17:23] <anon__> nope. And I regularly use chromium/opera/firefox, all three at the same time
[17:23] <anon__> so I can definitely notice when a change happens across all of them
[17:24] <anon__> there's a Ubuntu Font extension for chrome which I even tried..
[17:25] <phoenix_firebrd> so chromium is the odd man out
[17:25] <anon__> yes.. but why after kde-desktop?
[17:26] <phoenix_firebrd> i seen the problem earlier. my font size =12 , font =ubuntu
[17:26] <inashdeen> hi
[17:26] <inashdeen> i really need some
[17:26] <inashdeen> i am a newbie for kde
[17:26] <phoenix_firebrd> font smoothing is done better in ubuntu
[17:26] <inashdeen> my fonts hurt
[17:27] <inashdeen> i installed kubuntu-desktop package on mint linux
[17:27] <inashdeen> then my font just turn bad
[17:27] <inashdeen> like gross
[17:27] <inashdeen> not for all apps
[17:27] <inashdeen> for gnome or independent apps like google chrome
[17:27] <inashdeen> any fix
[17:27] <inashdeen> anyone?
[17:28] <phoenix_firebrd> inashdeen:try disabling font smoothing
[17:28] <inashdeen> how is that done
[17:29] <inashdeen> i am a serious new bie
[17:29] <inashdeen> anyone
[17:29] <phoenix_firebrd> inashdeen: kmenu->applications->setting->system settings
[17:30] <phoenix_firebrd> inashdeen: application appearence->fonts
[17:30] <inashdeen> i am using version 4.5
[17:31] <inashdeen> application appearance doesnt seem to exist
[17:31] <phoenix_firebrd> inashdeen: are you in settings

[17:31] <inashdeen> yeah
[17:31] <inashdeen> from there???
[17:31] <phoenix_firebrd> inashdeen: search font
[17:33] <inashdeen_> sorry bout that
[17:33] <inashdeen_> irc issues
[17:33] <inashdeen_> alright

[17:33] <inashdeen_> i seen everything except font smoothing
[17:33] <inashdeen_> huhuhu
[17:34] <phoenix_firebrd> inashdeen: did you find the font settings
[17:34] <inashdeen_> yes
[17:34] <phoenix_firebrd> inashdeen: can you see anti-alising setting?
[17:35] <inashdeen_> yes'
[17:35] <phoenix_firebrd> inashdeen: is it disabled?
[17:35] <inashdeen_> i just disabled it'
[17:36] <phoenix_firebrd> inashdeen_: restart the system and see
[17:36] <inashdeen_> alright
[17:36] <inashdeen_> a minute
[17:36] <phoenix_firebrd> !kernel
[17:37] <phoenix_firebrd> !ppa
[17:39] <inashdeen> hi
[17:39] <inashdeen> i believe there is improvement
[17:39] <inashdeen> but i dont think its adequate
[17:40] <inashdeen> everything looks thin
[17:40] <inashdeen> n
[17:40] <inashdeen> not smooth
[17:42] <inashdeen> hi
[17:42] <inashdeen> wanna ask a second question
[17:42] <inashdeen> i have multiple desktop environment
[17:42] <inashdeen> will any change i made in kde
[17:42] <inashdeen> affect how the fonts look in gnome??
[17:44] <phoenix_firebrd_> inashdeen_: you have you try with trial and error method. you have to restart the applications after changing the settings to see the difference
[17:44] <phoenix_firebrd_> inashdeen: if you need i will tell you my settings
[17:44] <inashdeen> sure
[17:44] <sysop1> hi guys
[17:44] <inashdeen> actually
[17:44] <inashdeen> i got tons to ask
[17:45] <inashdeen> how to put an fb icon on the panel
[17:45] <inashdeen> or google chrome
[17:45] <inashdeen> why my wine browse c option is not working
[17:46] <inashdeen> HOW to change the usplash from blue to black
[17:47] <sysop1> damn all I want to know is how to get rid of the iView gui files not installed in anyremote.
[17:47] <sysop1> iViewer I mean
[17:47] <inashdeen> anyone?
[17:49] <sysop1> "iViewer GUI files"  not installed when I do a config check on anyremote and I cant find a package for them. google just showed me a message abou t the tranglastion of that messge
[17:49] <sysop1> kanyremote that is.
[17:51] <DiogenesW> gute nacht
[17:59] <CQ> is ther a way to set the default page to a4 and landscape and centimeter units for gwenview? or can it be done at a system level?
[18:01] <inashdeen> hi
[18:01] <inashdeen> anyone out there
[18:01] <inashdeen> remeber me?
[18:03] <inashdeen> anybody knows ho to change the usplash theme??
[18:11] <collabra> inashdeen: the splash themes are controlled by 'phonon' i believe.
[18:12] <collabra> inashdeen: phonon is exclusive to the ubuntu line of distros,... i don't think they have others to choose from
[18:12] <collabra> !splash
[18:12] <inashdeen> phonon?
[18:13] <inashdeen> whats that
[18:13] <collabra> !phonon
[18:14] <collabra> inashdeen: look it up in aptitude,... i believe it is the frontend to the initial splash screens....u know, the boot screen
[18:14] <collabra> is that what you're talking about
[18:15] <collabra> !bootscreen
[18:15] <collabra> !boot
[18:15] <inashdeen> all right
[18:16] <inashdeen> is gui or something else
[18:16] <inashdeen> i mean like terminal
[18:16] <inashdeen> causo i got terminophobia
[18:16] <collabra> yeah,... you can open a terminal. su or sudo aptitude.... then look up phonon
[18:37] <John_User> Hi
[18:37] <John_User> I need some help
[18:37] <John_User> I cannot find any help on the foroum or over the net
[18:37] <John_User> so I decided to join the channel
[18:38] <John_User> I recently installed kubuntu 10.10 on my pc
[18:38] <John_User> but I have no sound
[18:39] <ksardas> no sound at all?
[18:39] <John_User> My soundcard is a Creative Soundblaster 24 live!
[18:39] <John_User> It is intergrated on the motherboard
[18:39] <John_User> It is fully recognized from kubuntu
[18:41] <rork> Sorry for the stupid question but have you set all volumes in kmix to max?
[18:41] <John_User> I use the alsa drivers
[18:41] <John_User> yes
[18:41] <John_User> using alsamixer and kmix
[18:41] <John_User> the same result
[18:42] <John_User> I have tried alsa monitor while playing an audio file, a video file, a youtube file
[18:42] <rork> Is the soundblaster you only sound card?
[18:42] <John_User> and it shows
[18:42] <ksardas> try oss then
[18:43] <ksardas> or just jeck your audio cable
[18:43] <John_User> on alsa monitor I can see the volume green bar moving when I play a file
[18:43] <John_User> but I cannot hear anything from the speakers or headphones
[18:43] <John_User> the cables are ok
[18:44] <John_User> I have read something about disabling the digital output..
[18:45] <John_User> using analog-digital switch
[18:45] <John_User> but there is not such a channel on mixer
[18:46] <John_User> just the spdif that can be muted or not
[18:46] <John_User> any advice?
[18:47] <John_User> I would really apriciate it, cause I found Kubuntu 10.10 the very best distro this time
[18:48] <John_User> (in exception of the problem with my soundcard)
[18:48] <Nick_Meister> hi guys i mounted an external hdd with dolphin
[18:48] <John_User> Just to say that I am an intermidiate linux user not an expert
[18:49] <Nick_Meister> but every time i try to edit a file it says  read only file system
[18:49] <tsimpson> Nick_Meister: what filesystem is on the hdd?
[18:49] <Nick_Meister> fat32
[18:49] <Nick_Meister> i think..
[18:49] <tsimpson> check the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and see what it's identified as
[18:50] <John_User> ksardas..
[18:50] <John_User> you told me to try oss
[18:50] <ksardas> yep
[18:50] <John_User> how could I try oss instead of alsa?
[18:50] <Nick_Meister> /dev/sdb2   *        3825        4864     8353800    7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:50] <Nick_Meister> ntfs
[18:52] <ksardas> just switch to it in amarok config
[18:52] <John_User> thanks I'll give a try
[18:52] <Nick_Meister> tsimpson, so what could be wrong?
[18:53] <tsimpson> probably that the default NTFS driver is read-only, you need to use something called "NTFS-3g" to have read-write access
[18:53] <tsimpson> have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[18:55] <John_User> how could I switch from alsa to oss in amarok config?
[18:55] <John_User> through phonon link?
[18:56] <John_User> Does anyone use soundblaster 24 live! on Kubuntu?
[19:03] <amichair> tsimpson, Nick_Meister: I thought ntfs3g with read/write support has been the default for several years now... there shouldn't be any problem with an external ntfs disk running out of the box (I do it all the time)
[19:03] <tsimpson> amichair: me too, but I don't have any ntfs disks/partitions to check against
[19:04] <amichair> tsimpson: I have both internal and USB ntfs mounts, all working just fine
[19:05] <amichair> the only hiccup I see is a warning that it can't change permissions when copying to the disk (but this has no negative effect)
[19:06] <Nick_Meister> amichair, i thought so too but aparantly it did not work for me until i did that ntfs-config thing
[19:07] <amichair> Nick_Meister: is this on a stock kubuntu installation? which release?
[19:07] <Nick_Meister> kubuntu 10.10
[19:08] <John_User> Does anyone use soundblaster 24 live! on Kubuntu 10.10?
[19:08] <amichair> Nick_Meister: how strange. I don't even have ntfs-config here. I wonder what was wrong...
[19:10] <Nick_Meister> amichair, i used sudo apt-get to get it
[19:25] <inashdeen> hi
[19:25] <inashdeen> anybody know how to change boot screen
[19:31] <yofel> inashdeen: in which release?
[19:31] <inashdeen> kde 4.5
[19:31] <inashdeen> i installed kubuntu-desktop package on julia mintlinux
[19:32] <inashdeen> linuxmint
[19:32] <inashdeen> sorry
[19:37] <inashdeen> hi
[19:37] <inashdeen> this sound crazy
[19:37] <inashdeen> just wanna ask
[19:37] <yofel> inashdeen: I don't know much about Mint, but I'm guessing it uses plymouth too since julia seems to be quite new. In this case you want to look at the plymouth themes in the repos
[19:38] <yofel> inashdeen: and please be patient, if nobody answers you it means that nobody knows the answer to your question currently, not that you're ignored
[19:38] <inashdeen> no,no
[19:38] <inashdeen> not like that
[19:38] <inashdeen> first
[19:38] <inashdeen> both plymout
[19:38] <FloodBotK1> inashdeen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <FloodBotK2> inashdeen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <yofel> why do we have 2 floodbots...
[19:38] <inashdeen> ubuntu and kubuntu existed,
[19:39] <Pici> yofel: lag probably.
[19:39] <yofel> ah
[19:40] <inashdeen> so, how to choose between the two. second, i want to ask new question actually, let say we have two desktop environment, do kde and gnome choose between software? i mean, is there like google chrome is managed by kde, firefox by gnome
[19:40] <yofel> inashdeen: plymouth is configured by alternatives, 'sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth' for the graphical splash and 'text.plymouth' for the text splash
[19:40] <inashdeen> or something like that???? because since i installed kde, my google chrome is not smooth at all, and it is using kde cursor even in gnome session
[19:41] <inashdeen> yeah, the terminal thingy sound kind of scary, do u know any gui options
[19:41] <yofel> inashdeen: kde and gnome use different graphical libraries, but should work fine when the apps are used in the other desktop env.
[19:42] <yofel> inashdeen: there is kalternatives and galternatives
[19:42] <inashdeen> how is that again?
[19:42] <inashdeen> what is kalternatives and galternatives and how do i configure it
[19:42] <yofel> as for the cursor I'm not sure, there is a x-cursor-theme alternative which might interfere, but usually the desktop environments have their own cursor settings
[19:43] <yofel> inashdeen: first install them, then I'm not sure, haven't used them in ages
[19:43] <yofel> (you only need one of them, first is for kde second for gnome)
[19:45] <inashdeen> ok
[19:45] <inashdeen> kind of found a solution for the boot thingy
[19:45] <inashdeen> wanna ask
[19:45] <inashdeen> can i used both
[19:46] <inashdeen> and reconfigure things every time i change D.E
[19:47] <yofel> you can have both installed, just change the alternative when you switch DE
[20:04] <John_User> Does anyone use Soundblaster 24live! on kubuntu?
[20:05] <collabra> !compatibility
[20:05] <collabra> !compat
[20:05] <collabra> !hardware
[20:05] <collabra> !hcl
[20:06] <collabra> John_User: i knew i'd get it eventually.... check the HCL list.... i dunno.
[20:08] <collabra> John_User: you may need to install some 'firmware' files.... after you check the HCL, try searching for firmware in a package manager.
[20:10] <collabra> John_User: or, search for soundblaster in a 'description' enabled package search....
[20:10] <collabra> John_User: lemmy know what you find out.
[20:10] <collabra> :)
[20:10] <John_User> The soundcard is properly identigied from the system,
[20:10] <inashdeen> hi
[20:11] <collabra> John_User: but no sound?
[20:11] <inashdeen> having problem with firefox and google chrome font after installing kubuntu-desktop
[20:11] <inashdeen> any ideas how to fix that??
[20:11] <John_User> pulse volume meter shows normal activity when I play a file
[20:11] <John_User> but I have no sound on my ears!
[20:12] <John_User> nor from speakers neither from headphones
[20:12] <collabra> John_User: click on the sound icon in the system tray and tell me if you can choose mixer.
[20:13] <John_User> yes I can
[20:13] <collabra> John_User: and what options does it give you
[20:13] <John_User> all the options
[20:13] <John_User> just that
[20:13] <John_User> now I have only one channel
[20:13] <John_User> cause I installed pulse audio
[20:14] <collabra> John_User: it's in the mixer,... ohhh
[20:14] <John_User> the channel is ca0106 Soundblaster Analog Stereo
[20:14] <John_User> Before install pulse
[20:15] <John_User> I could see all channels as described in alsa documentation for this device
[20:15] <John_User> except a switch "analog digital"
[20:15] <collabra> John_User: yeah,... pulse comes standard in kubuntu 10.10,... 10.10 sucks for me. too many bugs,... i suggest you go back to 10.04 and be happy and more importantly 'stable'.... my advice.
[20:15] <John_User> I unistalled pulse
[20:16] <John_User> tried alsa
[20:16] <John_User> and reinstalled pulse
[20:16] <collabra> John_User: it's in the mixer,... close to guaranteed.
[20:16] <John_User> I tried alsamixer also
[20:16] <John_User> the same problem
[20:17] <John_User> I have read somewhere that I have to disable digital output
[20:17] <John_User> This could by using a channell called "analog-digital switch"
[20:18] <collabra> John_User: you just need to mess with them all till you get your sound,... for example I'm using some intel based high def sound card,... and i've got three sliders for main sound alone,...
[20:18] <John_User> I don;t won't to use another disto
[20:19] <John_User> My souncard is intergrated on the mainboard
[20:19] <John_User> as standalone it is supported
[20:19] <John_User> but the motherboard is not list on HCL
[20:21] <John_User> I asked if someone uses soundblaster 24 live! cause
[20:21] <collabra> John_User: i'm only suggesting that you rely on and get to know 10.04 LTS...Long Term Service is the way to go. people who want the cutting edge software get cutting edge bugs...sall' i'm sayin.
[20:21] <John_User> there are a lot of posts on the forum and over the net
[20:21] <John_User> but noone i solved..
[20:22] <John_User> it is not free, isn't it?
[20:23] <collabra> John_User: sure 10.04 LTS is free,... lemmy get the link.
[20:23] <collabra> !lts
[20:24] <John_User> My soundcard could be combatible with an older version of Kubuntu 10.10?
[20:24] <John_User> I think not
[20:25] <collabra> John_User: yeah,... it's calll lucid lynx 10.04 LTS,... man, stick with a distro for a while. It's a good platform.
[20:26] <John_User> I just don't want to reinstall the whole OS just for a driver..
[20:26] <John_User> and the n to be again dissapointed
[20:27] <collabra> John_User: look, you've been let down,... now, i'm sure there's a fix for your problem. but, just to have it in the first place has got to be frustrating
[20:27] <John_User> have you ever try lucid lynx?
[20:28] <John_User> Does it have gui installation?
[20:28] <collabra> 10.10 isn't a true distro... simply because it isn't maintained like lucid lynx
[20:29] <collabra> 10.10 will last for six months and then you will have problems with the upgrade all over again...
[20:30] <John_User> I am downloading 10.04.1 LTS
[20:32] <collabra> 10.10,... the way i've learned to see it anyway is just a technology display,... not meant to be stable secure or reliable.
[20:32] <John_User> the installation is via gui interface?
[20:33] <collabra> John_User: and then in a few years when 10.04 LTS is ready for an upgrade, they will get it right.
[20:34] <collabra> John_User: i believe so, yes. unless you got the 'alternative' 10.04 LTS disc.
[20:34] <John_User> ok
[20:34] <John_User> I'll give it a try
[20:34] <John_User> !
[20:34] <collabra> John_User: the 'alt' disc is in text format
[20:34] <John_User> thank you for your time
[20:35] <collabra> John_User: np let me know how it goes
[20:35] <John_User> I am downloading the normal
[20:35] <John_User> where are you from ?
[20:35] <collabra> John_User: if i'm not at my computer i'll be in the room.
[20:35] <collabra> John_User: portland oregon,.. you?
[20:35] <John_User> greece
[20:36] <John_User> that's why my english is awful!
[20:36] <collabra> John_User: nice =)
[20:36] <John_User> anyway
[20:36] <John_User> cu!
[20:37] <collabra> John_User: don't forget to drop me a p.m. and tell me what you think of 10.04.... I'm sure it will be a more pleasant experience than 10.10
[20:37] <bug27> hi all, nube here
[20:37] <collabra> John_User: don't forget to drop me a p.m. and tell me what you think of 10.04.... I'm sure it will be a more pleasant experience than 10.101
[20:37] <bug27> can anyone help with a snd problem, onS
[20:37] <collabra> John_User: ciao!
[20:38] <John_User> geia sou
[20:38] <collabra> bug27: I'll try to help... what's up?
[20:38] <bug27> i have a snd prob on Kubuntu 10.04LTS, sond from headphones but not internal speakers
[20:39] <bug27> i have a snd prob on Kubuntu 10.04LTS, sond from headphones but not internal speakers
[20:39] <bug27> oops, SOUND
[20:39] <collabra> bug27: click on the 'speaker' icon in the system tray and choose 'mixer'
[20:39] <bug27> ok, but it was working yesterday , its happend since i rebooted today
[20:40] <bug27> ok, am at mixer
[20:40] <collabra> bug27: now, under 'settings' choose 'configure channels'
[20:40] <bug27> ok, next
[20:41] <bug27> i have , master, MIc Boost, speaker, headphone, PCM
[20:41] <collabra> bug27: can you tell me what options are in the box at left.
[20:42] <bug27> available is Beep and Capture on the right is i have , master, MIc Boost, speaker, headphone, PCM
[20:42] <collabra> bug27: you want to drag and drop from the left: master, mic boost, speaker, headphone, pcm, and capture.
[20:43] <collabra> to the right box,...
[20:43] <bug27> ok most of them were already there, but capture is on the right too now
[20:44] <bug27> leaving only beep on the left
[20:44] <collabra> bug27: you only added capture,..?
[20:44] <bug27> correct
[20:44] <collabra> bug27: sht!,... well, ok, you can save and exit back to you mixer
[20:45] <bug27> notd and i have checked in terminal with alsamixer
[20:45] <collabra> bug27: try unchecking 'headphones' and see if that takes care of it.
[20:46] <collabra> bug27: do you have anything plugged in to an audio jack somewhere?
[20:46] <bug27> no
[20:47] <collabra> 'headphones' isn't checked
[20:47] <collabra> ?
[20:47] <bug27> it's a laptop, ASUS K42F the 3.5mm jack is an headphone/mic jack in one
[20:47] <collabra> yeah,.. what about the 'headphone' check box on the 'mixer'
[20:47] <bug27> i have moved headphones back to the left in mixer cong channels box
[20:48] <collabra> bug27: no,.. go dig it back out.
[20:49] <bug27> ok , did that, when uncheck and check it do you mute/unmute?
[20:50] <collabra> try it both ways,...
[20:50] <collabra> bug27: i'm sorry, not too sure it's within the mixer
[20:51] <bug27> i tried every whicj way but loose
[20:51] <collabra> but, those mixer setting can be tricky.
[20:51] <collabra> what about your pcm setting?
[20:51] <bug27> in multimedia system settigns, i have HDA Intel (ALC269 Analog) as first choice
[20:52] <bug27> PCM is all the way up
[20:52] <collabra> yeah i have an alc1200
[20:52] <bug27> everything is up
[20:52] <collabra> !alsa
[20:52] <bug27> except Mic Boost
[20:53] <collabra> bug27: i just dunno... hopefully the above will help.
[20:53] <kyle_> ???
[20:54] <bug27> when i rebooted this morning, some bugs were automatically fixed and i just clicked ok, then the internal speakers stopped working
[20:54] <collabra> bug27: did you install any software....?
[20:55] <bug27> no extra software, i was listening to MP3's lat night with Amarok
[20:55] <bug27> all ws good
[20:55] <collabra> bugs... automatically fixed,..? what were they,... do you remember any details.
[20:55] <bug27> booted into Win7 to do some itunes stuff then back into Kubuntu
[20:55] <bug27> sorry 3 bugs were auto fixed , i don't remeber
[20:56] <bug27> is there a log file buried somewhere
[20:56] <collabra> bug27: cause', nothing is 'automatically fixed' in linux
[20:56] <yofel> bug27: do you mean updates installed?
[20:56] <bug27> yes
[20:56] <yofel> bug27: /var/log/apt/history.log contains what was updated when
[20:57] <bug27> can i get to that thru dolphin
[20:57] <yofel> should work
[20:59] <bug27> Upgrade: libmagickcore2 (<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1, <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1.1), libmagickwand2 (<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1, <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1.1)
[20:59] <bug27> they were the upgrades listed for today
[21:01] <bug27> any ideas
[21:01] <yofel> that's imaging related and not sound, don't know then, sry
[21:03] <masaibana> Im trying to configure kppp out of default network manager on kubuntu, but I dont know how to make it work. Everytime I connect my pc, I got message: Unnable to querry modem.
[21:03] <masaibana> What I need to do to configure it right?
[21:04] <bug27> ok, i'll work thru it, same snd issues with most other distro's as well
[21:04] <collabra> MaSa69: have you loaded the proprietary modem driver?
[21:06] <collabra> it's in 'system', 'settings', or 'utilities' off the main application menu
[21:06] <masaibana> when using default network manager, it works. I want to use kppp cause I think I can configure it better there..?
[21:06] <collabra> masaibana: there should be a green icon that says something like hardware drivers,... or somethin.
[21:06] <masaibana> no, nothing
[21:07] <collabra> masaibana: well,... good luck.
[21:07] <masaibana> I think I should shut down default network manager. But I dont know how. Am I right?
[21:08] <collabra> i'll never understand why people gotta go messing with something that works.
[21:08] <masaibana> It work slowly later these week..
[21:09] <masaibana> I think I can overclock it, maybe...?
[21:10] <collabra> masaibana: that was probably because it's dialup... and not much to do with the program that connected you.
[21:11] <masaibana> Maybe missconfiguration or malware?
[21:11] <collabra> masaibana: cause it's the modem that keeps the connection and not the program.
[21:12] <collabra> the program just receives the data from the modem.
[21:13] <collabra> it to a degree controls the flow of data, but not the connection itself.
[21:14] <Roey> hey all, anyone else having an issue with the Keyboard Settings not being respected in the new PPA debs?  My "[x] Make Capslock an additional Control" setting, "Both shift together" to switch keyboard layouts setting, keyboard repeat rate and repeat delay are set, but I don't see this behavior....
[21:14] <Roey> ...getting respected by apps
[21:15] <masaibana> collabra: I see. It really no more hope for this one. Thankyou for explanation.
[21:15] <bug27> hi again, can i install 10.10 over the top of 10.04LTS, or does it need to be a fresh install
[21:16] <masaibana> One more question: Is there any way to use two different size partitions as RAID? Mean to enchance read/write access. Does anyone know how to configure it?
[21:17] <Roey> (any maintainer here?)
[21:17] <rork> bug27: you can do a dist-upgrade, most likely your favourite package manage software has an option
[21:18] <bug27> ok , ta i'll have a look
[21:18] <rork> Roey: #ubuntu-dev I think
[21:18] <maco> el
[21:19] <Roey> rork:  yeah, and I asked in #ubuntu+1 and got kicked back to here :P
[21:19] <Roey> heh
[21:19] <bug27> i had a look in Kpackagekit and it didn't show up , am i lookinf in the right spot, i download the cd can i just indsert it and let it load over the top
[21:19] <yofel> rork: and the *K*ubuntu devs are in #kubuntu-devel and only a few in #ubuntu-devel
[21:19] <collabra> masaibana: truly faithless,... not hopeless.
[21:21] <phoenix_firebrd_> need ppa for kinux kernel 2.6.36
[21:21] <phoenix_firebrd_> need ppa for linux kernel 2.6.36
[21:23] <masaibana> collabra: Im not sure..
[21:23] <masaibana> Is there any way to use two different size partitions as RAID? Mean to enchance read/write access? or there is any porgram for it? Does anyone know here?
[21:33] <masaibana> Does anybody had experience with RAID here?
[21:37] <phoenix_firebrd_> found it "ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa"
[21:43] <masaibana> need to get out of here. Chat comfortably anywhere.. :)
[21:47] <markus____> I create a deb for my game. the binary I store in /usr/bin where should the game data go to?
[21:50] <yofel> markus____: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-packaging
[21:50] <markus____> yofel: thanks
[21:55] <Roey> hey is there a PPA maintainer here?
[21:55] <Roey> (at all?)
[21:57] <phoenix_firebrd_> i am too searching for the same
[21:57] <alexbn> hello from romania
[21:59] <Roey> ce faci
[21:59] <alexbn> testam irc-ul de aici :)
[21:59] <Roey> pardon me I don't have my keyboard layout correct (since it got hosed in the latest PPAs)
[21:59] <Roey> ah
[22:00] <phoenix_firebrd_> Roey: your problem is not fixed yet?
[22:01] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd_:  not at all
[22:01] <Roey> this is Linux after all
[22:01] <Roey> problems just linger here for months :P
[22:02] <phoenix_firebrd_> may be not. have you tried in #ubuntu or #kde?
[22:03] <Roey> yes
[22:03] <Roey> yes I have.
[22:03] <Roey> it's from the latest PPAs
[22:04] <phoenix_firebrd_> Roey: what is your kubuntu version again?
[22:04] <Roey> 10.10
[22:04] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd_:  with the latest KDE PPAs
[22:06] <phoenix_firebrd_> Roey: did you try with root permission
[22:08] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd_:  oh, interesting... I have not.  I should try
[22:09] <phoenix_firebrd_> Roey: good luck
[22:09] <phoenix_firebrd_> brb
[22:56]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[23:06] <john-user> hi
[23:07] <john-user> i need some help
[23:07] <john-user> I had kubuntu 10.10 installed
[23:07] <john-user> and I had no sound
[23:08] <john-user> someone here advice me to change to lynx
[23:08] <john-user> and so I did
[23:08] <john-user> but still no sound!!
[23:09] <john-user> My soundcard is an onboard SB 24 live!
[23:09] <john-user> the OS Ubuntu 10.4.1 LTS (lucid lynx)
[23:10] <john-user> I have read a lot of posts on the foroum without any result
[23:10] <john-user> If someone could give me any advice I would really apreciate it
[23:21] <john-user> anyone?
[23:54] <Ginbuntu> hi
[23:55] <Ginbuntu> I installed kde 4.6 beta1 but it is unstable. can I remove it without reinstalling kkubuntu?


[05:43] <Kuytu> I was just wondering, does any of you guys have experience about HP nx7300?
[05:54] <simira> Kuytu: have you checked the laptoptesting page?
[05:57] <Kuytu> I have actually, but the reason I was asking was because I'm thinking of buying one
[05:58] <Kuytu> and I was wondering if anyone could tell if it's wise to buy a computer with celeron m 440
[07:05] <simira> Kuytu: is anyone testing it or a similar one?
[07:13] <Kuytu> looks like no
[07:17] <simira> well, if you want to be sure, I'd go for one of the supported models that seems to work well
[07:20] <Kuytu> I'm not actually worried about it working with linux, I was wondering if it's wise to get computer with celeron m or will it become dated too soon
[07:20] <Kuytu> 'cause I really don't know that much about cpu's
[08:08] <vicentecarro> Hi
[08:09] <vicentecarro> not for support, ok. bye
[08:14] <ijuz__> Kuytu: all cpu's are dated out basically, you just have to check it's power usage when you intent to use it as a mobile, at least it was like this in that the celeron supported fewer power saving measurements


[00:28] <tgm4883> !wolfie
[00:28] <Zinn> Come play 2 rounds of #wolfie and get assistance with your issue
[04:43] <mdisieno> i have an nvidia powered htpc that is currently having some overscan issues with its dvi > hdmi connection to my vx37l,first of all what nvidia drivers has this magical toggle i hear of for overscan, or how do i get nvidia settings not to bypass my xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ that way my modelines can do what they are supposed to
[11:19] <henkpoley> Are any annoying bugs known for mythbuntu 10.04 ?
[11:21] <henkpoley> Not that I should really think about updating, everything seems to work at the moment ;-). Only the exit-popup is kinda slow.
[11:29] <Daviey> henkpoley: I'm using it at home in production without issue.. but that isn't a gurantee
[11:29] <Daviey> if you are pretty tech savy, then we welcome more testers!
[11:34] <bjd> I'm using the latest build -- anyone else get a weird character when it says "now playing" when starting live tv?
[11:34] <bjd> wonder if that is theme specific or encoding issues maybe
[11:40] <henkpoley> I'd say snap a screenshot (possibly with camera) and submit a bug
[11:41] <henkpoley> Daviey: you know if switching pack to the nvidia proprietary driver is easy? I believe 10.04 runs with nuveau
[11:46] <henkpoley> Ah, the 2.6.32 kernel also seems to fix the HDMI audio for my GT200 card. Though I have a work around for that, that works just fine (digital audio suppressed, so analog audio cable works).
[11:46] <Daviey> henkpoley: I would think it is.. the funny thing is - i have no idea what i am using :)
[11:46] <henkpoley> You are not playing back HD video ?
[11:47] <Daviey> henkpoley: my main frontend, i just upgraded and it "just worked" with VDPAU - so i would think the non-free upgrade of nvidia driver was painless
[11:47] <Daviey> henkpoley: I am.
[11:48] <henkpoley> Maybe it's only for new installations, nouveau doesn't seem to support vdpau
[11:48] <Daviey> henkpoley: I'm pretty confident the non-free is ok
[11:50] <henkpoley> The way you talk about it, it seems that the interface to switch is still there, and working in the beta. Which isn't always the case with nvidia drivers around the time of ubuntu releases ;-)
[11:51] <Daviey> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules/nvidia_drv.so
[11:51] <Daviey> (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[11:51] <Daviey> (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  195.36.15  Thu Mar 11 22:01:49 PST 2010
[11:51] <henkpoley> :-)
[11:52] <Daviey> henkpoley: my main frontend is my only nvidia device in the house.. I didn't even think about that working, i just upgraded
[11:52] <henkpoley> could you also `cat /proc/asound/version` ?
[11:52] <henkpoley> Not that I particularly need HDMI audio, but it's a cable less
[11:55] <Daviey> henkpoley: i use HDMI audio
[11:55] <Daviey> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21.
[11:55] <henkpoley> thanks, that's not the version I need
[11:55] <Daviey> how
[11:55] <henkpoley> I believe .22 can be overriden, and .23 works out of the box
[11:55] <Daviey> however i use an internal alsa mixer prior to hdmi
[11:56] <henkpoley> Yes, but you do not use the GT200, which is rather new
[11:56] <Daviey> ahh
[11:57] <Daviey> henkpoley: > two years old?
[11:57] <henkpoley> Anyways, I'm off to the scouts, got to hide some chocolate eggs ;-) (and see how much of the boats are already prepared or painted)
[11:57] <henkpoley> er no, "something 200" then
[11:57] <henkpoley> last fall
[11:58] <Daviey> heh
[11:58] <Daviey> o/
[11:59] <henkpoley> cheap silent card, btw
[17:20] <dan> anybody know what user the "Control Centre" is run as from the "Diskless Server" page?
[17:20] <dan> I'm forwarding X over ssh and when I click the Control Centre button I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication."
[17:21] <dan> the rest of mythbuntu-control-centre works fine
[17:26] <tgm4883> what version of mythbuntu?
[17:27] <dan> ubuntu 8.04, can't see a version number for mythbuntu
[17:32] <tgm4883> it would be 8.04
[17:32] <tgm4883> I think that runs as the regular user
[17:32] <tgm4883> so when you click on the diskless server page of MCC you get that error?
[17:33] <dan> yeah in the terminal
[17:33] <tgm4883> hmm
[17:33] <dan> if i run with -X rather than -Y i get a load of python errors
[17:34] <tgm4883> let me ping the dev on that, i'm not sure he is around though as he is in germany
[17:35] <dan> ok thanks think it might be my lack of knowledge about ssh and X as much as anything else
[17:47] <tgm4883> dan, doesn't look like he is around right now
[17:49] <dan> ok, thanks for trying
[18:05] <tgm4883> dan, looks like it runs as root
[18:42] <dan> thanks
[18:47] <dan> it's strange, because obviously mythbuntu-control-centre runs as root too, and that seems fine
[18:51] <tgm4883> dan from dev "hum. we do perform some magic to mount the X11 socket (AFAIR!!) in the chroot. that can pose problems when using X11 forwarding.. maybe ssh does something differently and we don't account for that"
[18:51] <tgm4883> unfortunatly diskless no longer has a maintainer, and it hasn't been ported to the new version of MCC
[18:57] <dan> no worries
[18:57] <dan> i will come back to it tomorrow
[23:15] <avihay> What player does mythtv uses for movies in the media library? is it MPlayer?
[23:22] <superm1> internal player
[23:22] <superm1> (by default)
[23:23] <superm1> it can be configured to use an external player if desired though on a file type by file type bases
[23:23] <superm1> basis
[23:25] <Daviey> since about 0.21 the Internal player works for pretty much everything thrown at it
[23:29] <avihay> well, when I press a button on my remote, it shows a window titled mplayer
[23:30] <avihay> I'm useing version 0.21 or whatever came with mythbuntu 8.04
[23:30] <avihay> *8.04.1
[23:30] <avihay> the thing is, my subtitles appear in the wrong charset
[23:31] <avihay> I can get a movie to show fine under mplayer
[23:32] <avihay> if I could use the same setting on the player window that mythtv opens, it should be fine
[23:39] <Daviey> avihay: 8.04 is really pretty old now.. If it were me, i'd upgrade.
[23:40] <avihay> yes, well, I am haveing trouble with 9.10 and myth .22
[23:40] <avihay> But I think I'm starting to understand how to solve them
[23:42] <avihay> the biggest problem I have with .22 is that it doesn't show my movies/videos
[23:44] <avihay> everyone is all like "press menu and press refresh". I couldn't find it. in .21, when I enter the video meneger (where you can do stuff to all the videos like makeing them invisible,) it does a refresh. it doesn't seem to happen in .22
[23:45] <Daviey> hmm
[23:45] <Daviey> avihay: there is an option in the settings to get the behaviour you want
[23:45] <Daviey> i'm pretty sure it's always defaulted to the "press menu and press refresh"
[23:46] <Daviey> i know on .22 and .23 I have it show all content.
[23:46] <avihay> It's on an NTFS paritition. I started to think for a while that that was the problem
[23:47] <Daviey> i wouldn't have thought so
[23:47] <Daviey> but NTFS isn't one i would recoomend
[23:47] <Daviey> recommend
[23:47] <avihay> I might try mythbuntu 10.04 if it comes out with .23
[23:47] <Daviey> avihay: please do, for savy people we need more testers
[23:48] <Daviey> I'm running it in production
[23:49] <bjd> mmm, I may upgrade to 0.23 tomorrow then :)
[23:50] <avihay> It's a machine for my ol'e folks.... so it has to work 100% at the things they use.
[23:51] <Daviey> superm1: Regarding xmltv, upstream are releasing soon.  Which will give us a new grabber.. However, Debian unstable will have a new cvs snapshot (with the grabber fix for UK) when Debian buildd's have caught up from there back log
[23:51] <Daviey> I'm thinking about syncing the snapshot, then bumping to the new release if it comes out on time
[23:52] <Daviey> What do you think?
[23:52] <superm1> sounds fine by me
[23:52] <superm1> btw, do you know how to query if you are able to upload a particular package based on your current rights?
[23:53] <Daviey> yeah
[23:53] <Daviey> edit-acl.py
[23:54] <Daviey> i have access to http://erk.daviey.com/ubuntu-archive-access.txt
[23:54] <Zinn> [erk.daviey.com]
[23:54] <Daviey> (lucid)
[23:54] <superm1> cool
[23:54] <superm1> hdhomerun-config isn't on there for some reason
[23:54] <superm1> how updated is that list?
[23:54] <Daviey> last night
[23:55] <superm1> hm
[23:55] <Daviey> Last-Modified: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 21:47:34 GMT
[23:55] <superm1> i thought we were seeding it
[23:55] <Daviey> xmltv is there
[23:56] <avihay> so, any idea about the subtitles? maybe I should use mplayer as the external player?
[23:57] <Daviey> avihay: yeah, as hardy is pretty old - it might be better
[23:57] <Daviey> as i say, if it were me - i'd upgrade
[23:59] <avihay> I downgraded because it didn't work with the newer version
[23:59] <avihay> it just wouldn't list my movies


[06:11] <pavlushka> Hey zaki
[06:11] <pavlushka> zaki: How its been?
[06:13] <zaki> hi pavlushka
[06:13] <zaki> I'm fine :)
[06:13] <zaki> how about ou?
[06:14] <pavlushka> zaki: I am busy like hell but I am free for myself :p
[06:14] <zaki> u-la-la, how are you?
[06:14] <zaki> he he
[06:14] <zaki> busy doing what?
[06:14] <pavlushka> zaki: u-la-la is not that u-la-la which makes coffee :p
[06:15] <pavlushka> zaki: I am attached to a kg school, managing computer stuffs
[06:16] <pavlushka> on Lubuntu, he he
[06:16] <zaki> oh things have changed ha!
[06:16] <zaki> wow congratulations :)
[06:16] <zaki> in your hometown?
[06:16] <pavlushka> zaki: yep
[06:17] <zaki> how about kilos?
[06:19] <pavlushka> zaki: if things go well, then the change will make things a lot better even http://www.ubuntu-bd.org
[06:19] <u-la-la> [ BangladeshiTeam - Ubuntu Wiki ] - http://www.ubuntu-bd.org
[06:21] <zaki> http://www.ubuntu-bd.org ?
[06:21] <u-la-la> [ BangladeshiTeam - Ubuntu Wiki ] - http://www.ubuntu-bd.org
[06:22] <zaki> Its redirect to wiki page
[06:22] <pavlushka> zaki: I said it will, not it is :p
[06:23] <zaki> oky :D
[06:23] <pavlushka> zaki: So what's going on on your side?
[06:23] <pavlushka> how is CCNA going?
[06:23] <zaki> at last they fixed it. http://forum.linuxbangladesh.org/index.php
[06:24] <u-la-la> [ লিনাক্স কমিউনিটি ফোরাম ] - http://forum.linuxbangladesh.org
[06:24] <zaki> so far nothing special happened. :D
[06:24] <zaki> ccna 1 completed
[06:25] <zaki> ccna2 class just started from last wk
[06:26] <pavlushka> zaki: way to go \o/
[06:26] <zaki> ha ha
[06:27] <zaki> what are you doing now?
[06:27] <zaki> it will take 4 more months to complete.
[06:27] <pavlushka> zaki: need to compose some/many documents
[06:30] <zaki> oh
[11:10] <pavlushka> Hello Kilos !
[11:10] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[11:11] <pavlushka> Kilos: zaki was asking about you :)
[11:12] <Kilos> aw tell him i send best wishe next time you see him please
[11:12] <pavlushka> sure I'll :)
[15:27] <pavlushka> dipraw:


[19:02]  * stgraber waves
[19:02] <infinity> o/
[19:02] <tsimonq2> Oh, darn. I knew I was forgetting something.
[19:02]  * tsimonq2 works on my action item.
[19:03] <stgraber> so who's there?
[19:04] <infinity> kees and slangasek are at least idling here. :P
[19:04] <infinity> But I'm not seeing a lot of hands go up.
[19:04] <infinity> Which doesn't feel quorumful.
[19:05] <infinity> Ahh, slangasek sent apologies to the list.
[19:06] <stgraber> going to wait another 5min for someone else to show up, otherwise we'll just skip
[19:06]  * infinity nods.
[19:06] <infinity> I don't see anything to address on the list, it's just nominations.
[19:06] <stgraber> doko put a bunch of things on the agenda looks like
[19:11] <stgraber> alright, lets skip until next week then
[19:12] <tsimonq2> I'll finish that proposal and send it to the TB mailing list todayish.
[19:12] <infinity> #startmeeting Technical Board Meeting
[19:12] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 19 19:12:09 2018 UTC.  The chair is infinity. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[19:12] <infinity> Quorum not met.
[19:12] <infinity> #endmeeting
[19:12] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 19 19:12:16 2018 UTC.
[19:12] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2018/ubuntu-meeting-2.2018-06-19-19.12.moin.txt
[19:12] <infinity> There.
[19:12] <stgraber> :)
[19:13] <infinity> stgraber: I guess we'll just keep the same chair rotation, since you didn't get to do anything. :P
[19:14] <infinity> Maybe we'll have an election and kick you out by then.
[19:14] <stgraber> :)


[08:27] <soshiant> i want link download repository for ubuntu trusty
[18:14] <uplime> correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember a repo that needs to be installed to get all of the typical man pages. does anyone remember which repo that is?
[18:17] <uplime> ah nevermind, manpages-posix is what I needed


[00:02] <pwnguin> not free to distribute or not free to modify?
[00:03] <jcristau> i don't remember
[00:05] <pwnguin> apparently its' not free Enough
[00:05] <pwnguin> 7. Claims of Infringement. If Recipient learns of any third party claim
[00:05] <pwnguin> that any disposition of Covered Code and/or functionality wholly or
[00:05] <pwnguin> partially infringes the third party's intellectual property rights,
[00:05] <pwnguin> Recipient will promptly notify SGI of such claim.
[00:05] <jcristau> that one is nasty
[00:05] <jcristau> i think we have some code in mesa or the x server under that license, still
[00:08] <pwnguin> by my reading, all it means is that if ubuntu (or people ubuntu purveys the documentation to) is sued, they have to notify SGI about it
[00:08] <pwnguin> is it the policy that ubuntu NOT contact SGI in such a situation?
[12:43] <Q-FUNK> bryce: any objection to getting -geode 2.9.0 into hardy-proposed?
[12:44] <Q-FUNK> it would close bug #214119
[19:21] <bryce> heya
[20:00] <tjaalton> hi bryce
[20:01] <james_w> hi bryce
[23:54] <bryce> tjaalton: for bug #211759, do you think it's simply a matter of adding the pci id?  Or is there additional upstream work needed and we should upstream the bug?