[02:15] <milestone> anyone know why my "ALT-GR" Key does not work with Breezy Badger anymore? it worked fine with Hoary Hedgehog
[02:15] <eliyahu> webtoe ? anyone?
[02:15] <Kromonos> I hadn't to edit and restart services on server
[02:16] <phreakys> ah, tnx gorilla
[02:16] <Kromonos> and at ubuntu box I restarted samba service more than twelve times ;)
[02:16] <gorilla> phreakys, that's the short answer anyway... :-)
[02:16] <kemik> Kromonos:  :P
[02:17] <kemik> Kromonos:  you dont have to run samba on the client-side really
[02:17] <eliyahu> can no one help me?
[02:17] <inc7> gonna try to reinstall
[02:17] <inc7> says
[02:17] <inc7> Ensure that the .bin file you downloaded is executable. You can make the .bin file executable by running the "chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" command from a terminal window.
[02:17] <webtoe> sorry eliyah was away for a minute
[02:17] <webtoe> i'll have a look
[02:17] <Kromonos> kemik: I started samba on my ubuntu box because of sharing on lan partys :D
[02:17] <kemik> inc7:  why not install realplayer from the repositories
[02:18] <wickedpuppy> any of you installed j2sdk ?? know where to get .deb or repo for it ?
[02:18] <wickedpuppy> !repos
[02:18] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:18] <inc7> howw
[02:18] <inc7> where
[02:18] <kemik> !realplayer
[02:18] <ubotu> realplayer is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:18] <milestone> did something change between releases?
[02:18] <webtoe> eliyah: is this when you click a link in firefox or something?
[02:18] <webtoe> or a link on the desktop?
[02:18] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  yesterday there was some error in hoary-extras i think.. so ppl were unable to get the sdk
[02:19] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  but it should be in extras
[02:19] <wickedpuppy> ah i see
[02:19] <eliyahu> in my places menu webtoe
[02:19] <kemik> Kromonos:  ah ok.. make da*n sure you dont give out the wrong permissions then! so noone delets stuff etc ;)
[02:20] <eliyahu> i have several work related servers saved their
[02:20] <eliyahu> up until two days ago this never happened.
[02:20] <eliyahu> i've been through every bit of options that i can find
[02:20] <Kromonos> kemik: Sharing is just reading ;) writting is just permitted if I know the person :)
[02:20] <milestone> it is driving me crazy
[02:21] <webtoe> eliyah: what comes up instead of nautilus when you click on a places menu link for an ftp site?
[02:22] <eliyahu> it opens a new tab in firefox
[02:22] <eliyahu> ask me to confirm the password
[02:22] <eliyahu> and opens a ls of the dir in firefox
[02:22] <wickedpuppy> i got java installed ... but its not showing up in my path ... whereis java doesn't show either ... any ideas ?
[02:22] <eliyahu> which is fine (if annoying) for taking things off line but doesn't do me a whole hell of a lot of good when I need to upload something
[02:22] <webtoe> k
[02:22] <Kromonos> I'm away to work
[02:23] <webtoe> soudns like gnome being a pain possibly.
[02:23] <eliyahu> thats what i think
[02:23] <webtoe> i'm looking at the moment, give me a couple of secs
[02:23] <Kromonos> bye and thx kemik for help
[02:23] <eliyahu> but i cant find anywhere to reverse it
[02:23] <webtoe> i'm wondering whether its a setting in gconf (gnome's registry like thing)
[02:24] <eliyahu> how could i inspect that?
[02:24] <eliyahu> I;m a long time computer geek but a relatively new to linux (and happy I made the move)
[02:24] <webtoe> applications > sysytem tools> configuration editor
[02:25] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  "sudo locate -ucl 0" then "locate java" or "locate javac"
[02:25] <webtoe> i've been using linux for about 5 years and still a little rubbish
[02:25] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  it's probably in /usr/local/somewhere
[02:26] <inc7> how do i uninstall
[02:27] <inc7> like remove from registry, n dll files
[02:27] <inc7> not just folder?
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> inc7, apt-get remove *program*
[02:27] <inc7> thatks
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> inc7, type apt-get .... it will show you all the available options
[02:27] <eliyahu> webtoe, i dont see fire fox in the apps section. where woulod it be?
[02:28] <inc7> thanks
[02:28] <inc7> should i stick with this or just go back to windows
[02:28] <inc7> u ppl really like it , or just hate windows that much
[02:28] <wickedpuppy> inc7, you want to freedom or restriction ?
[02:29] <Aquasky> i use windows, i don't mind it
[02:29] <inc7> ya i know
[02:29] <inc7> ms sux
[02:29] <Rockett18> I use both.. have a Linbox and a Winbox
[02:29] <Rockett18> :)
[02:29] <inc7> win emulator?
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> Aquasky, neither do it ... i use windows time to time ... but then ubuntu is my primary box
[02:30] <Wilf> i have ubuntu for my sisters, set up amsn, firefox and oo on the desktop, they can't go wrong
[02:30] <DjKritical-> during install I've been given a choice of kernals... linux-386, linux-image-386, and linux-2.0.6...something
[02:30] <Wilf> beats allways reinstalling after spyware
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> Wilf, try gaim ... its so cool
[02:30] <Wilf> i don't use it
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, you sure you are using ubuntu ?
[02:30] <Wilf> i'm stuck with xp (3DS Max)
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> i didn't get the choice ...
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> Wilf, linux has maya...
[02:30] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: yeah... but I got an error during base components installl so I tol dit to do it again
[02:31] <DjKritical-> lol
[02:31] <Wilf> doesn't help me, school computers have 3DS Max
[02:31] <DjKritical-> now I have a choice
[02:31] <icewt> is there a way to enable the debian menu in gnome (in ubuntu)?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> ah eh ... that just choose one
[02:31] <Jerub> hah. installing a single gnome application reuqires reinstalling all the xorg packages.
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> icewt, what is debian menu ?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> Jerub, which app ?
[02:31] <DjKritical-> bah big error... reinstall number 6 now
[02:32] <Jerub> gnome-pilot
[02:32] <DjKritical-> maybe this harddrive has problems?
[02:32] <T-One> good morning. Can anyone answer a question about VNC for me?
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> ... DjKritical-  are you reformatting the whole disk each time ?
[02:32] <DjKritical-> well re-partitioning
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, let ubuntu do everything ... if you are wiping out the whole harddisk
[02:33] <inc7> inc7@inc:~$ apt-get remove realplayer
[02:33] <inc7> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:33] <inc7> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:33] <Seveas> inc7, do what the thing says
[02:33] <Seveas> run it as root
[02:33] <DjKritical-> well it's still trying to use my old partitions from an attempt at installing debian
[02:33] <inc7> anyone know whats thta about
[02:33] <DjKritical-> lol
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> inc7, only root can install remove programs
[02:33] <icewt> wickedpuppy, it's the menu which includes many of the programs that are not in the default ubuntu applications menu
[02:33] <DjKritical-> whoops?
[02:33] <Seveas> and don't paste in here...
[02:33] <inc7> so go to root terminal?
[02:33] <bimberi> T-One: ask away, hopefully someone can
[02:33] <eliyahu> found it!
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> icewt, get those programs ?
[02:33] <T-One> can I remove vnc-common and install vnc4 without any major issues?
[02:33] <inc7> alote of typin :P
[02:34] <T-One> (vnc-common has a dependency for ubuntu-desktop)
[02:34] <icewt> wickedpuppy, er.. what i mean is, there are quite many programs that don't appear in the applications menu when they are installed. however, they usually are in the debian menu, but debian menu is disabled in ubuntu for some reason
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> that i am confused ...
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> what is debian menu ...
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> Seveas, can help ?
[02:35] <icewt> wickedpuppy, ubuntu is based on debian
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> i know that
[02:35] <eliyahu> is there an undo in config edit?
[02:35] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I'm up to the stage "erase entire disk HDA1"... that will repartition and reformat that disk?
[02:35] <Seveas> icewt, install 'menu' or smeg
[02:35] <Seveas> eliyahu, afaik no
[02:35] <bimberi> T-One: that will be ok, BTW ubuntu includes vino (also a vnc server) in the basic install
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, yes
[02:36] <icewt> Seveas, i have smeg but i'm not able to enable debian menu with it
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> that will do everything for you
[02:36] <icewt> wickedpuppy, debian menu looks something like that http://www.hoamskool.net/david/misc/kde_menu.jpg
[02:36] <miojala> heij
[02:36] <eliyahu> webtoe u still around?
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> isn't that kde menu ?
[02:36] <T-One> umm...when I do apt-get remove vnc-common, it wants to take out the other three...how do I force without removing dependencies?
[02:36] <miojala> hej
[02:36] <icewt> wickedpuppy, i mean the debian part of it
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> i can't see it clearly ...
[02:37] <icewt> wickedpuppy, except that it seems to be somehow broken in that pic ;)
[02:37] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  did you find your java-install?
[02:37] <miojala> jhg
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> ah
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> its specific ...
[02:37] <eliyahu> i want to edit a key in config editor
[02:37] <miojala> hej gays
[02:37] <eliyahu> but i deleted the value
[02:37] <eliyahu> and not it will only let me put in an interger
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> icewt, in smeg make a new menu .... called it debian
[02:37] <miojala> hallo gays
[02:37] <eliyahu> how can i put in a string of characters?
[02:38] <webtoe> eliyah: i'm still here, what was the value?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> and you can edit so it looks like your debian menu :P
[02:38] <Seveas> miojala: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> kemik, yah
[02:38] <kamstrup> eliphas_: select String as value.. in the dropdown
[02:38] <bimberi> T-One: what 3? ubuntu-desktop and ...
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> at Seveas  site ... slow though
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> :P
[02:38] <T-One> ubuntu-desktop vnc-common xvncviewer
[02:38] <kemik> Seveas:  maybe he meant it like the "other" gay
[02:38] <eliyahu> it was something linke /user/bin/mozilla-firefox/etc/etc
[02:38] <kemik> heh
[02:38] <icewt> wickedpuppy, i guess you didn't really understand this thing..
[02:38] <kamstrup> eliphas_: In the new key dialog there is a "Type" dropdown. Select String
[02:38] <kemik> though it's highly unlikely ;)
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> icewt, yah ...
[02:39] <darksatanic> Maybe he meant "guys", but can't spell?
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> kemik, can help icewt  ?
[02:39] <webtoe> eliyah: you should right click the key you want to change
[02:39] <webtoe> and select edit
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> i don't get his problem :P
[02:39] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  i dont know :) not seen what's troubling him
[02:39] <inc7> is ubantu an external build or linux/x86?
[02:39] <eliyahu> i do that
[02:39] <webtoe> eliyahu: and it should let you selet string
[02:39] <bimberi> T-One: it's OK to remove those, if you must have vnc4
[02:39] <eliyahu> but the only thing i can enter is an interger
[02:39] <Seveas> inc7, what do you mean with that..?
[02:39] <kamstrup> inc7: ?
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> inc7, whats external build ???
[02:39] <T-One> what IS ubuntu-desktop?
[02:39] <eliyahu> the top two fields are greyed
[02:39] <eliyahu> meaning i can only type in the value field
[02:39] <kamstrup> T-One: A meta-package
[02:40] <Seveas> T-One, a meta package that provides a complete desktop
[02:40] <bimberi> T-One: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage with dependencies to what is considered a complete desktop
[02:40] <eliyahu> name and type are greyed out
[02:40] <inc7> wich one should i download, realplayer
[02:40] <keith_> hey how do you mount a usb stick?
[02:40] <bimberi> T-One: you're just replacing one of those elements with another
[02:40] <kamstrup> eliphas_: ... weird...
[02:40] <webtoe> eliyahu: hmmm, maybe you could delete the key and try creating it
[02:40] <keith_> is not doing it automatically
[02:40] <T-One> okay...if I remove that will something else break?
[02:40] <bimberi> T-One: no
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> keith_, i plug it in and its there :P
[02:40] <inc7> linux/ppc  or linux/x86
[02:40] <eliyahu> i made a new key
[02:40] <webtoe> eliyahu: i just tried it on mine also and I see your point
[02:40] <kamstrup> T-One: nope
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> keith_, try /media .. there should be usbdisk
[02:40] <eliyahu> so i deleted it
[02:40] <keith_> there isnt wickedpuppy
[02:40] <eliyahu> and am making a new one
[02:41] <inc7> https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/downloads/
[02:41] <kemik> inc7:  ppc and x86 refers to cpu-architechture
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> oh there is nothing in media ?
[02:41] <kemik> inc7:  and ubuntu has builds for both
[02:41] <keith_> theres an sda1 but the file thats on there isnt showing up
[02:41] <inc7> amd64
[02:41] <Seveas> inc7, ubuntu comes for x86/ppc/amd64/sparc/hppa
[02:41] <eliyahu> what should i put as the value to get it to use nautlias?
[02:41] <keith_> so how do i mount it?
[02:41] <kamstrup> Seveas: sparc as well?
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> !usbdisk
[02:41] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Not a clue
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> !usb
[02:41] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Not a clue
[02:41] <Seveas> keith_, pmount /dev/sda1
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> !pmount
[02:41] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:41] <inc7> none for amd64, is that the prob maybe?
[02:41] <keith_> oooooh pmount
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> ah ...
[02:42] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I've got another major error
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> oh ah
[02:42] <fabbione> Seveas: you forget ia64 :)
[02:42] <inc7> wich one should i get u think?
[02:42] <Seveas> wickedpuppy, don't experiment with the bot in the channel please
[02:42] <webtoe> eliyah: what key are you changing?
[02:42] <Seveas> fabbione, aight, since when?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> opps sorry Seveas
[02:42] <fabbione> Seveas: since warty?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> oh ah DjKritical- what is it ? lets see
[02:42] <ali_> hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?
[02:42] <ali_> thanks for the help
[02:42] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: ok here goes.. same old error
[02:42] <Seveas> fabbione, ia64 != amd64 right?
[02:42] <kemik> icewt:  the picture you've supplied is a screencap of KDE .. are you running gnome?
[02:42] <keith_> thanks wicked it worked
[02:42] <fabbione> Seveas: right.. ia64 is another processor
[02:42] <webtoe> Seveas: correct
[02:43] <keith_> wickedpuppy, its umount /media/sda1 for unmounting?
[02:43] <tjs> has anyone been working on compiling ubuntu kernels to act as xenU kernels?
[02:43] <webtoe> ia64 is iatanium 64 bit
[02:43] <Seveas> fabbione, hmm, never knew that there were ia64 builds :)
[02:43] <ompaul> intels world beater :-)
[02:43] <tjs> is it possible?
[02:43] <eliyahu> ROCK ON WEBTOE
[02:43] <ali_> hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> yup
[02:43] <ompaul> !
[02:43] <ubotu> ompaul: Wish i knew
[02:43] <eliyahu> that did it
[02:43] <eliyahu> thanks a ton
[02:43] <ompaul> !intel
[02:43] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, ompaul
[02:43] <kemik> inc7:  im sure the amd64 can run x86 builds.. the amd64 builds are only optimized for your cpu
[02:43] <fabbione> tjs: possible but difficult
[02:43] <DjKritical-> [!]  Install the base system - Unable to install the selected kernal -
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> but funny normally i just right click on the folder on the desktop to umount usb :P
[02:43] <ali_> hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?
[02:43] <webtoe> its perfectly alright eliyahu. what key did you change ?
[02:43] <kemik> inc7:  and the amd64 build is not as mature as the x86  from what i've seen
[02:43] <fabbione> tjs: there are no xen patches for 2.6.10 or 2.6.12
[02:43] <Ng> kemik: correct, normal i386 code runs fine on x86_64 (amd64)
[02:43] <DjKritical-> kernal package - 386
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, ah you are using ubuntu hoary right ?
[02:43] <ali_> hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?
[02:44] <eliyahu> desktop.url-handlers/ftp
[02:44] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: yes
[02:44] <tjs> fabbione, will ubuntu run on the standard xenU kernel?
[02:44] <fabbione> tjs: yes
[02:44] <webtoe> eliyahu: oh right, Mine doesn't have that. Maybe default action is to use nautilus. glad its working
[02:44] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: downloaded hoary yesturday... md5 checksum matched... burnt the CD twice... this one was burnt at 4x
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, i don't remember being asked to choose kernel ... and i just installed one a few hours ago
[02:44] <DjKritical-> I didn't get asked this time
[02:44] <eliyahu> ok folks
[02:44] <DjKritical-> I only got asked once
[02:45] <eliyahu> i'm back to work
[02:45] <eliyahu> thanks for the help
[02:45] <eliyahu> i'll be back next time i have a question
[02:45] <webtoe> i think you get asked which kernel if you choose advanced install
[02:45] <eliyahu> peace from Israel
[02:45] <inc7> so get the x86
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> oh
[02:45] <kamstrup> eliphas_: do that
[02:45] <tjs> fabbione, great. You sound informed? do you know if there are any howtos for ubuntu as guest on xen?
[02:45] <inc7> should i have installed a diff ubantu
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> you did advanced install DjKritical-  ?
[02:45] <DjKritical-> I only got asked to choose a kernal after reciving an error message and trying to install the base system a second time...
[02:45] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: nope
[02:45] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I've been doing the most basic install I can
[02:45] <fabbione> tjs: it's pretty simple to do.. use debootstrap to create the xen guest and use your xenU kernel.. nothing too fancy
[02:46] <DjKritical-> It seems as if the error messages arn't at the same stages either
[02:46] <fabbione> tjs: but i am not aware of any howto
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> but i was never asked ... can anyone who done the advanced install confirm ?
[02:46] <tjs> fabbione, okay, thanks heaps
[02:46] <kemik> inc7:  if you installed the x86 then all is fine
[02:46] <fabbione> tjs: no problem
[02:46] <inc7> i installed amd64
[02:47] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I'm leaning towards harddisk problem.. because even tho I'm intentionally not trying to sound as if I know anything about linux.. I have installed other linux distros fine before.. I'm currently running debain on this PC fine...
[02:47] <inc7> and now when i download to desktop nothin appears
[02:47] <kemik> inc7: that's fine too if you've got a AMD64 cpu
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> oh ah
[02:47] <inc7> i do
[02:47] <inc7> somethins screwy tho
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> but if its fine then there shouldn't be any prob
[02:47] <DjKritical-> this is my server PC
[02:47] <DjKritical-> I'm installing ubuntu onto my desktop PC
[02:47] <DjKritical-> it has 2 harddisks...
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> oh ... not production i hope
[02:47] <DjKritical-> a new 200gig sata with windows XP
[02:47] <kemik> inc7:  but as i said, it's not as mature build as the x86, so if you feel that youre very new to linux, maybe you should try the x86 to start with
[02:48] <DjKritical-> and an old 80gig IDE which I'm trying to install on to
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> oh
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> old 80 gig huh
[02:48] <DjKritical-> I havn't run an operating system on the 80gig HD for a long time
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> well maybe ... get gentoo and try memtest
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> :P
[02:48] <inc7> will it be compatable with my hardware?
[02:48] <DjKritical-> ?
[02:48] <kemik> memtest checks your RAM no ?
[02:48] <DjKritical-> what does that do?
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> it test your memory
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> wait should be harddisk test
[02:49] <DjKritical-> lol
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[02:49] <kemik> different types of memory ;)
[02:49] <kemik> nice
[02:49] <kemik> spam
[02:49] <DjKritical-> I'm almost thinking about using the 200 gig SATA HD
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> ah get livecd and do fsck
[02:49] <blaat> What kind of program do I need to create something like this navigation --> http://www.porsche.nl/
[02:49] <DjKritical-> ;O
[02:49] <kemik> DjKritical-:  partition youre 200gb and install ubuntu there
[02:49] <DjKritical-> oh my god...
[02:49] <DjKritical-> It's running my windows thats the only problem
[02:50] <kemik> DjKritical-:  use partition magic from windows, it's easy to use
[02:50] <DjKritical-> with all my personal files
[02:50] <kemik> DjKritical-:  resize the partition
[02:50] <DjKritical-> oh?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> well you going to need
[02:50] <DjKritical-> thats not a bad idea
[02:50] <webtoe> DjKritical: I have ubuntu on my sata drive. and it installed without a hitch. Now installing windows 2000/XP is a pain
[02:50] <kemik> you hsould have some freespace
[02:50] <icewt> kemik, it doesn't really matter, it's the debian menu that matters. debian menu includes much more programs than the default applications menu in ubuntu. let's take an example. i install gav (GPL Arcade Volleyball). does it appear in the Applications -> Games menu? no. however, if debian menu was enabled, it would be in Applications -> Debian -> Games -> Arcade -> gav. In debian, the menu is enabled. In ubuntu, for some reason, it's disabled, even though
[02:50] <icewt> it's kind of handy.
[02:50] <DjKritical-> but isn't partition magic not free?...
[02:50] <DjKritical-> it doesn't actually write changes to the harddisk unless you pay money?
[02:50] <blaat> DjKritical- Partition magic = non free = paid
[02:50] <webtoe> DjKritical: I used ubuntu's partitioner and it worked fine
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> icewt, i don't know how to explain ... but debian menu only comes with debian ...
[02:51] <DjKritical-> ubuntus partitioner wont rezie windows partitions will it?
[02:51] <kemik> DjKritical-:  the ubuntu installer is said to be able to resize partitions aswell
[02:51] <Seveas> DjKritical-, it can
[02:51] <blaat> DjKritical- use QTparted (free OS partitioner)
[02:51] <DjKritical-> oh really?!
[02:51] <DjKritical-> !
[02:51] <ubotu> Not a clue, DjKritical-
[02:51] <DjKritical-> no s**t!
[02:51] <DjKritical-> :D
[02:51] <kemik> DjKritical-:  ppl say so, but i've not used it myself
[02:51] <Seveas> ubotu, don't interfere :p
[02:51] <ubotu> Seveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:51] <webtoe> DjKritical-: i used the installer one fine just make sure that you have defragmented windows drive before you start
[02:51] <Seveas> ubotu, yes
[02:51] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?
[02:51] <icewt> wickedpuppy, i can see it with smeg, but it can't be enabled
[02:51] <DjKritical-> I defragged ages ago...
[02:51] <DjKritical-> not so long ago rather
[02:51] <DjKritical-> I'm going to try now
[02:51] <kemik> DjKritical-:  time to do it again ;)
[02:51] <Seveas> icewt, evil suggestion: sudo smeg
[02:52] <blaat> Seveas, What kind of program do I need to create something like this navigation --> http://www.porsche.nl/
[02:52] <webtoe> DjKritical-: and remember we can't be held responsible if it hoses your hard drive
[02:52] <DjKritical-> if it's not fully defragged and I resize the partition what could happen?
[02:52] <webtoe> DjKritical-: The installer will just tell you you have a lot less space than you actually do. I think it reads from the end of the windows crud to the end of the drive
[02:52] <blaat> DjKritical- Data loss
[02:53] <icewt> Seveas, hmm.. doesn't seem to make a difference
[02:53] <webtoe> yeah or data loss
[02:53] <Seveas> blaat, a drawing program and an html editor
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> icewt, try this ... on the left debian menu .. click it .. and add new entry ...
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> did it make the debian menu appears ?
[02:53] <ali_> is it possible to install ubuntu via ftp ?
[02:53] <can-o-worms> does anyone know what this is -> kernel BUG at <bad filename>:64129! .... and whole more garble...
[02:53] <moe__> i have broken packages that were held back during a dist-upgrade
[02:53] <Seveas> ali_, yes, with a netboot install
[02:53] <moe__> how can i fix this?
[02:53] <Seveas> moe__, apt-get -f install
[02:53] <ali_> Seveas, do you have the howto for that ?
[02:53] <blaat> Seveas, I don't think it's hardcoded or something. How can something like this be autogenerated? Look at the crazy URL names for the sub-pages
[02:53] <moe__> did that
[02:54] <cafuego> blaat: and a nasty javascript menu generator or extensive javascript knowledge
[02:54] <DjKritical-> does ubuntu automatically mount fat32 partitions by default?
[02:54] <deFrysk> moe__, funny repo's ?
[02:54] <deFrysk> or missing ?
[02:54] <Seveas> DjKritical-, no(t yet)
[02:54] <Seveas> but it's easy to mount them
[02:54] <Ouarf> Yo
[02:54] <Seveas> blaat, then ask them, they built that site. How should I know what they use??
[02:54] <cafuego> and those porsche people could REALLY do with soem stealth whitespace removal
[02:54] <blaat> cafuego, hmmmm. Couldn't this be a CMS thingie? I'm asking because I'll have to build something like this
[02:55] <Ouarf> whats the root password in the ubuntu live ?
[02:55] <ekimus> Ouarf: there isn't one
[02:55] <Ouarf> seriously ????
[02:55] <Seveas> blaat, this discussion is highly off-topic in here, please ask in an appropriate channel
[02:55] <cafuego> blaat: No, that index page is done by hand/specific desktop app
[02:55] <Ouarf> ekimus, and can i save files in fat32 hardisk ?
[02:55] <deFrysk> Ouarf, just enter
[02:55] <ekimus> Ouarf: more correctly root login is disabled
[02:55] <Seveas> Ouarf, yes
[02:55] <Ouarf> how ?
[02:55] <blaat> cafuego, thnx :-)
[02:55] <Seveas> mount the drive and save to it
[02:56] <deFrysk> sudo -s <enter>
[02:56] <ekimus> Ouarf: passwd -l root
[02:56] <cafuego> they're running IIS too
[02:56] <ekimus> iis is cool
[02:56] <Ouarf> ekimus,  permission denied
[02:56] <ekimus> .....if you want to collect trojans and viruses
[02:56] <ekimus> Ouarf: what command?
[02:56] <Seveas> Ouarf, that command was showing how they disabled root login :)
[02:56] <cyprinus> i wanted to install a program, but apt-get give informations with errors back
[02:56] <Ouarf> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ passwd -l root
[02:56] <Ouarf> passwd: Permission refuse
[02:56] <deFrysk> moe__, I dont do (unrequested) privating
[02:56] <cafuego> Hahaah! "This page is best viewed with Internet Explorer, unfortunately"
[02:56] <cyprinus> whenever I ant to upgrade
[02:56] <Seveas> Ouarf: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[02:56] <cyprinus> ubuntu
[02:57] <cyprinus> i cant
[02:57] <Seveas> cyprinus, why not?
[02:57] <DjKritical-> Okay here's what I'm going to do... move all (important) files over to the 80gig...
[02:57] <cyprinus> bezause of errors with this package
[02:57] <DjKritical-> and use the 200 gig
[02:57] <ekimus> Ouarf: if you want to become root just type "sudo su"
[02:57] <cafuego> cyprinus: whenever I want to help someone, but they don't give any info or error messages, i can't
[02:57] <cyprinus> how can i remove instlling it by apt
[02:57] <cyprinus> ??
[02:57] <Seveas> ekimus, bad idea
[02:57] <Seveas> sudo -i
[02:57] <moe__> ok
[02:57] <Bags> Hello.
[02:57] <Ouarf> mmmh
[02:57] <Ouarf> ?
[02:57] <blaat> DjKritical- use Ubuntu and you will be set free
[02:57] <deFrysk> moe__, put your output in pastebin and give the url for us to check
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> do people know where i could aquire Linux friendly boot images for the tektronix nc200h?
[02:57] <Seveas> cyprinus, aptitude remove PACKAGE_NAME_HERE
[02:58] <Ouarf> sodu -i work :)
[02:58] <moe__> pastebin?
[02:58] <Seveas> !pastebin
[02:58] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:58] <ekimus> Seveas: what's su -i the manpage doesn't list it
[02:58] <cyprinus> Seveas: thx
[02:58] <Seveas> ^-- moe__
[02:58] <deFrysk> moe__, see topic
[02:58] <Seveas> sudo -i
[02:58] <Seveas> not su -i
[02:58] <Ouarf> hey, in xchat
[02:58] <DjKritical-> blaat: trust me... I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE UP NO MATTER HOW MANY ERRORS I GET
[02:58] <[FiDO] > I'm having a strange problem
[02:58] <icewt> wickedpuppy, hmm.. if the menu really is totally stripped off of ubuntu, i can only wonder why..
[02:58] <DjKritical-> as you guys can see
[02:58] <ekimus> Seveas: ah yeah i usually use sudo su - anyway :)
[02:58] <Seveas> :)
[02:58] <Ouarf> in xchat can i see all raw in same windows ?
[02:58] <[FiDO] > I'm running a webserver off ubuntu however it is only accessible from the outside intermittently
[02:58] <Ouarf> terminaaaaaaaaaaaaal
[02:59] <[FiDO] > works for 1/2 hour then nothing then 20 minutes later workign again
[02:59] <blaat> DjKritical- that's the spirit! I also helped a friend of mine installing Ubuntu on his PC. He didn't have internet, so he used my connection for the install (and all the programs and stuff)
[02:59] <Seveas> [FiDO] , :|
[02:59] <DjKritical-> I might be tempted to give kubuntu one try if I keep getting errors after formatting my windows drive! lol
[02:59] <blaat> DjKritical- I'm only using Windows for school-purposes (windows only programs :-S )
[02:59] <Bags> Having trouble printing to a HP7150 via USB and CUPS. I've a PPC G3 Powerbook and Ubuntu. It sees the printer but the jobs stop in the queue. This machine prints to the very same printer when it's served on a Windows XP machine, but when connected locally, it doesn't work.. .Any ideas?
[02:59] <[FiDO] > thought it was my nic but replaced it and still having same problem
[02:59] <ekimus> DjKritical-: kubuntu is just ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop installed
[02:59] <moe__> deFrysk, here is the url - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1599
[03:00] <cyprinus> works;]
[03:00] <Bags> I'm using Kubuntu too. It's very nice...
[03:00] <Ouarf> ekimus, , how i do to become a hacker ?
[03:00] <webtoe> Ouarf: you need to learn to love code!
[03:01] <apokryphos> Ouarf: a coder? You learn to program; learn a programming language
[03:01] <deFrysk> moe__, also put your sources.list in pastebin please
[03:01] <blaat> DjKritical- you'd have the same trouble with Kubuntu (KDE). Ubuntu (Gnome) is just a different window-manager. I use fluxbox nowadays :-)
[03:01] <moe__> ok
[03:01] <Ouarf> but its long !!!!
[03:01] <ekimus> Ouarf: not by asking :)
[03:01] <Ouarf> :p
[03:01] <blaat> DjKritical, sorry, I didn't follow all, but what errors do you get? (so what's your prob)
[03:01] <apokryphos> Ouarf: you need diligence, as in many things.
[03:01] <cafuego> oops, nautilus seems to have crashed
[03:01] <Ouarf> diligence ?
[03:01] <Ouarf> whats your countries ?
[03:01] <apokryphos> !dict diligence
[03:02] <DjKritical-> blaat: well.. I get errors at different stages
[03:02] <apokryphos> Ouarf: dedication, basically.
[03:02] <derek_> hi people wow ubuntu is a great os it almost does everything great
[03:02] <lurah> mmm...is there some easy way to find out mhz of my ram?
[03:02] <blaat> cafuego, nautilus crashes all the time @ my pc :-P
[03:02] <Ouarf> okay apokry
[03:02] <Ouarf> i cant
[03:02] <DjKritical-> blaat: and it's really hard to type these ones out =)
[03:02] <cafuego> Ouarf: I own Uganda, Mexico and Indonesia. Soon be invading Korea too.
[03:02] <Ouarf> need eating
[03:02] <Ouarf> my dogs  need eat too
[03:02] <Ouarf> ma guitar too :p
[03:02] <T-One> exit
[03:02] <cafuego> blaat: A simple 'killall -1 nautilus' solved it.
[03:02] <blaat> DjKritical, if you have a digital camera, take pictures :-)
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> lurah, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:03] <ekimus> Ouarf: how to become a hacker: 1. google 2. google 3. patience. 4 - 499 code 500 DONT'T TELL ANYONE :)
[03:03] <blaat> DjKritical, so you have trouble installing Ubuntu? Or do you have trouble with the partitioning part?
[03:03] <Ouarf> :)
[03:03] <lurah> wickedpuppy, thank =)
[03:03] <Ouarf> the only langage i know really
[03:03] <Ouarf> i knew
[03:03] <Ouarf> is a script
[03:03] <Ouarf> the MRC
[03:04] <Ouarf> :p
[03:04] <moe__> deFrysk, done :D
[03:04] <deFrysk> moe__, link ?
[03:04] <Ouarf> ekimus, how can i do to see all chans/pv/serv in same term in xchat?
[03:04] <Ouarf> *we can ?
[03:04] <ekimus> Ouarf: dunno i don't use xchat
[03:04] <moe__> same as before i just updated post
[03:04] <deFrysk> ok
[03:04] <lurah> wtf? --> cpu MHz         : 597.540
[03:04] <moe__> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1600
[03:04] <moe__> no it wan;t
[03:05] <lurah> is that 60mhz?
[03:05] <ekimus> lurah: what's bad about that?
[03:05] <Thunder000> for some reason, neither hoary nor breezy is able to detect my Laptop DVD-ROM during installation.. I tried Debian Sarge, it detected it.... what could be the problem ??
[03:05] <DjKritical-> blaat: lol
[03:05] <ekimus> lurah: no 600
[03:05] <cafuego> lurah: It's throttled to 600MHz because it's idle.
[03:05] <DjKritical-> blaat: I wish.. I've been typing them out for the last 3 hours
[03:05] <cafuego> lurah: Or do you have a 600MHz machine?
[03:05] <lurah> yeah
[03:05] <blaat> DjKritical, that's the problem when I just join in ;-)
[03:06] <blaat> DjKritical, just type them in a text editor and then dump them to pastebin :D
[03:06] <ekimus> 600MHz throttled? that's twice as much than my box has.....
[03:06] <cafuego> lurah: The numbers are always dumb, mine's 1.8GHz, but actually 1808.827 MHz
[03:06] <ekimus> i think it's time to lurk into some hardware store.....
[03:06] <deFrysk> Moder,  you dont have multiverse of ubuntu
[03:06] <blaat> DjKritical, but by now you should've defined the problem? 1. Does partioning work? 2. Does it install all? ...
[03:06] <lurah> lol
[03:06] <lurah> i ment RAM's speed :D
[03:06] <cafuego> ekimus: Mine throttles to 1004.903 MHz ;-)
[03:07] <deFrysk> moe__,   you dont have multiverse of ubuntu
[03:07] <ekimus> cafuego: shut up :)
[03:07] <DjKritical-> blaat: partitioning works.. but suspected harddisk error
[03:07] <lurah> lol, next time ill check first before copy/pastin :D
[03:07] <DjKritical-> blaat: It only ever installed it all once
[03:07] <DjKritical-> blaat: even then I think I did something wrong because gnome wouldn't boot
[03:07] <DjKritical-> I'm about to delete 120 gigs of windows crap
[03:07] <deFrysk> moe__,  line 26 and 29 you have to add multiverse behind universe
[03:07] <DjKritical-> and use my better harddisk
[03:07] <DjKritical-> and if that doesn't work...
[03:08] <ekimus> at least it has 768mb ram...
[03:08] <ekimus> about as much as hd space :)
[03:08] <DjKritical-> atleast I've got 4 other pcs around the house
[03:08] <DjKritical-> lol!
[03:08] <cafuego> ekimus: If it helps: "cpu MHz: 300.729"
[03:08] <blaat> DjKritical, partitioning = good (that's good). Install went OK (great). Gnome won't boot. Is that your only problem?
[03:08] <moe__> okies thx
[03:08] <DjKritical-> blaat: most of the time it wont get through the instal
[03:08] <webtoe> DjKritical-: I often wipe windows anyway. Keeps it freash and ticking along
[03:08] <blaat> ekimus, mine has 2048 :P
[03:08] <ekimus> cafuego: thanks, i thought i was the only one that acutally has use for old hardware
[03:08] <deFrysk> moe__,  then update and try again ;)
[03:08] <cafuego> (the other cpu in that box also runs at 300.729)
[03:08] <ekimus> blaat: i'd have more but the slots are full :)
[03:08] <blaat> DjKritical, did you ever think it could be a corrupt CD? (happened to me once)
[03:09] <DjKritical-> webtoe: mainly not the operating system,... but windows applications.. and movies...
[03:09] <cafuego> blaat: The Dual Xeon 3.6GHz has 3116968 Mb
[03:09] <ekimus> cafuego: yeah mine is dual too. the good old celeron A 300
[03:09] <DjKritical-> webtoe: there's a lot of that around my lan anyways.. no big loss
[03:09] <cafuego> ekimus: Just pretend you didn't see that
[03:09] <DjKritical-> blaat: yeah covered that
[03:09] <DjKritical-> blaat: did an md5 checksum
[03:09] <ekimus> cafuego: see what ;)
[03:09] <cafuego> ekimus: The 300 is a Dual P2 (Klamath)
[03:09] <blaat> DjKritical, you could also download the Ultimate Boot CD (UBCD) and use the harddisk tools to check your HD and run Memtest (Just to be sure) or even a CPU burnin test :D
[03:09] <webtoe> DjKritical-: i Know the feeling of deleting stuff like that. Its somehow relaxing to watch it go.....
[03:09] <deFrysk> moe__, not line 26 , just line 29
[03:09] <cafuego> it runs at my in-laws, as courier imap/webmail server
[03:10] <DjKritical-> blaat: but if this doesn't work I will be downloading ubuntu and kubuntu again...
[03:10] <moe__> thx for the help, newbie on ubuntu
[03:10] <dawkirst> Greetings.
[03:10] <moe__> been using debian previously
[03:10] <DjKritical-> webtoe: it's also a lot quicker than moving it all! lol
[03:10] <cafuego> Coming to think of it, the dual p2 is probably BUSIER then the dual xeon
[03:10] <DjKritical-> blaat: ultimate boot cd?.. that's an idea
[03:10] <deFrysk> moe__, then it should not be too hard just read the wiki on repositories
[03:10] <dawkirst> Is there any way for me to do a "remote desktop" type of thing to my Ubunu PC at home, from my Windows PC at work?
[03:10] <blaat> DjKritical, if you're on windows, just use Nero (or something) to burn the Ubuntu CD and then select "verify written data" (or something like that)
[03:10] <lurah> is there way to find out SDRAM's mhz from console?
[03:10] <webtoe> DjKritical-: I know, have you tried moving several gigs of stuff over wireless? 802.11b no less?
[03:11] <Thunder000> for some reason, neither hoary nor breezy /j #q8linux
[03:11] <Thunder000> oops
[03:11] <deFrysk> moe__, actually read the wiki all the way :D
[03:11] <blaat> dawkirst, remote desktop... it's in gnome (standard)
[03:11] <webtoe> lurah: no don't think so
[03:11] <lurah> ok
[03:11] <DjKritical-> blaat: I'm quite sure this second cd I burnt came out okay... but I will definately try that if these next steps dont work
[03:11] <moe__> i would like to set it up for my local ubuntu mirror (internode) rather then the us or au one
[03:11] <dawkirst> blaat: will it work between Windows and Ubuntu?
[03:11] <DjKritical-> okay time to repartition... brb
[03:11] <cafuego> lurah: For a 600MHz CPU, it's probably 133MHz, unless it's an RDRAM box.
[03:11] <blaat> DjKritical wait
[03:11] <moe__> do i realy need to mirrormax.net?
[03:11] <DjKritical-> bye bye pr0n!
[03:12] <blaat> DjKritical FIRST get the Ultimate boot cd.... and burn it!
[03:12] <DjKritical-> okay I'm still here blaat :D
[03:12] <lurah> lol. this is compaq (bad word, im sorry) so i guess its like a 75 or 100mhz :D
[03:12] <blaat> DjKritical and maybe Knoppix too. Just to be sure
[03:12] <deFrysk> moe__, I dont use mirrormax
[03:12] <deFrysk> !backports
[03:12] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[03:12] <cafuego> lurah: No, the bus speed on a p3? is 100 or 133.
[03:12] <DjKritical-> blaat: you recon?.. but if it were a ram problem.. I'd be experiencing problems in windows
[03:12] <lurah> ah
[03:12] <DjKritical-> and
[03:12] <blaat> DjKritical if something happens, Testdisk (UBCD) could save your behind and Knoppix could help you partition :D (it's faster than Ubuntu live CD :P)
[03:12] <lurah> ok
[03:12] <cafuego> lurah: more likely the latter
[03:12] <lurah> so only two coises anymore
[03:13] <lurah> choises*
[03:13] <DjKritical-> blaat: if it is a harddisk problem... then I'll be formating the windows drive and using it anyway?
[03:13] <dawkirst> blaat: will it work between Windows and Ubuntu?
[03:13] <webtoe> DjKritical-: RAM is a pain and linux may just be pushing the right sort of data through your RAM to show corruption
[03:13] <cafuego> lurah: Seeing as your CPU runs at UNDER 600MHz, it's probably clocked at 4.5 * 133
[03:13] <cafuego> !4.5*133
[03:13] <ubotu> 598.5
[03:13] <cafuego> See?
[03:13] <blaat> DjKritical, I just want to give you a couple of pointers (things you should look out for). You'll never know
[03:14] <Seveas> !133*2*2*1.25
[03:14] <ubotu> 665
[03:14] <Seveas> ahem
[03:14] <DjKritical-> blaat: Okay if it still doesn't work on this SATA drive... I'll be running hardware diagnostics on everything... I'm sorta happy to do this because isn't SATA faster anyway? so linux will run faster too?
[03:14] <Seveas> !133*2*2*1.125
[03:14] <ubotu> 598.5
[03:14] <blaat> DjKritical, A friend of mine had install probs with Windows XP. The RAM was bad (wrong slot, so many many errors)
[03:15] <lurah> cafuego, thanks
[03:15] <DjKritical-> blaat: but windows xp runs fine? o_O
[03:15] <DjKritical-> or does it...
[03:15] <blaat> DjKritical, I also have a SATA drive (2nd or 3rd HD). Works like a charm :-)
[03:15] <cafuego> !(100+33)*(2**2)*(5/4)
[03:15] <ubotu> 665
[03:15] <blaat> DjKritical, SATA isn't faster, only smaller cables
[03:15] <cafuego> blah ;-)
[03:15] <bluesceada> where to get the kdeedu packages for (k)ubuntu ?
[03:15] <moe__> yay that worked thxt
[03:15] <DjKritical-> I hadn't actually put much thought into it perhaps being a ram problem
[03:15] <cafuego> stupid stupid
[03:16] <cafuego> !(100+33)*(2**2)*(9/8)
[03:16] <ubotu> 598.5
[03:16] <moe__> now i just need to set up a preferenes file to tell it which repositorie to use before it goes to the next and so on
[03:16] <cafuego> yeah
[03:16] <DjKritical-> is there a program that will do diagnostic tests in windows? instead of downloading that ultimate cd?
[03:16] <Seveas> bluesceada, install the kdeedu package...
[03:16] <cafuego> !math
[03:16] <ubotu> bc -l
[03:16] <cafuego> goo'boy
[03:16] <blaat> DjKritical, Memtest could take up to 24-hours to run all the tests! I always do that when I get a new PC, checking everything so I don't regret it later on
[03:16] <moe__> is there a pritable version of the wiki? :P
[03:16] <bluesceada> Seveas: i cant do that ?
[03:16] <bluesceada> i cant find it
[03:16] <blaat> DjKritical, UBCD is better. And it's proven
[03:16] <Seveas> bluesceada, enable universe
[03:17] <bluesceada> ah
[03:17] <bluesceada> one mom
[03:17] <Seveas> !info kdeeudu
[03:17] <Seveas> !info kdeedu
[03:17] <brenner> moe__: file > print? :P
[03:17] <ubotu> kdeedu: (educational apps from the official KDE release), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 44 kB
[03:17] <Thunder000> how can debian sarge detects my laptop DVD-ROM and Ubuntu can't ? :/  I need Ubuntu for my laptop
[03:18] <bluesceada> Seveas: thx
[03:18] <cafuego> Thunder000: Differnt kernels
[03:19] <webtoe> Thunder000: what make laptop and dvd drive?
[03:19] <DjKritical-> blaat: okay... you're rite.
[03:19] <Thunder000> my laptop is Acer TravelMate 4150
[03:20] <brenner> what's sarges default kernel?
[03:20] <DjKritical-> blaat: I'm downloading UBCD with bittorrent now :D
[03:20] <DjKritical-> I wish it wern't so big tho
[03:20] <cafuego> brenner: Check in #debian (2.6.8 I thought)
[03:20] <bluesceada> hm if i want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu .. which packages do i need to remove after i installed the kubuntu ones ?
[03:20] <DjKritical-> might have to pull a sicky off work tomorrow... stay up and get this sorted out
[03:20] <DjKritical-> also...
[03:20] <Cronic> Wow, a real live place for help.
[03:20] <Cronic> Yay
[03:21] <bluesceada> hi
[03:21] <DjKritical-> I'm sure I was told that SATA was faster than IDE?1
[03:21] <Cronic> For some reason, I cannot login to my root account. The Ubuntu setup did not prompt for a root password.
[03:21] <brenner> cafuego: just asking to see if it was more recent....if ubuntu's is newer, i would assume the support issue would have been with the older kernel
[03:21] <bluesceada> Cronic: ubuntu is rootless ... you can sudo -s to get a root console, you then need to give your user password
[03:21] <Cronic> So I made another root account, and set it w/o a password, and logged into the system as this user. - Well when I use the passwd command on this user,a nd type in my password, it replied with I have no set a password
[03:21] <cafuego> brenner: Unless a bug was introduced
[03:21] <bluesceada> your user has admin privileges
[03:21] <Cronic> rootless!?
[03:21] <cafuego> (newer is not always better)
[03:22] <webtoe> DjKritical: SATA is technically faster, but PATA (normal IDE stuff) at 133Mhz will be comparable
[03:22] <brenner> cafuego: ah ok....i was going by the logic of newer kernel, more h/ware support
[03:22] <cafuego> Cronic: u!root
[03:22] <bluesceada> Cronic: it's a desktop linux .. time to make changes ^^ i also wondered first
[03:22] <cafuego> !root
[03:22] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:22] <cafuego> Cronic: Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:22] <Cronic> Interestingly broken.
[03:22] <brenner> "probably disabled"? well is it or isn't it. :)
[03:23] <Seveas> it is
[03:23] <Bags> Having trouble printing to a HP7150 via USB and CUPS. I've a PPC G3 Powerbook and Ubuntu. It sees the printer but the jobs stop in the queue. This machine prints to the very same printer when it's served on a Windows XP machine, but when connected locally, it doesn't work.. .Any ideas?
[03:23] <Seveas> but ubotu has weird ideas about how to answer :)
[03:23] <cafuego> Cronic: (basically, the idea is you 1) run sudo from the shell and 2) X tools prompt for your USER password, if you're in the admin group
[03:23] <Cronic> Wild...
[03:23] <brenner> hehe
[03:23] <Cronic> Thanks guys.
[03:23] <hatake_kakashi> anyone would happen to know how to disable the use of IPv6 and use only IPv4?
[03:24] <cafuego> Cronic: That's a refreshing change from the usual "omg, ubuntu is retarded i need root!" response ;-)
[03:24] <pitti> pvanhoof: btw, I tried Lyx in the past, but never liked it -- vi foo.tex works much better for me :-)
[03:25] <pvanhoof> yeah :). But I'm new with latex and wanted to know what makes content not split on page break (and I dislike \pagebreak)
[03:25] <nenduvel> which decoder do you need to play avi and mpeg files?
[03:25] <pvanhoof> I was hoping Lyx was going to give me an answer :)
[03:25] <brenner> oooh, a wysiwyg LaTeX editor?  neat
[03:25] <cafuego> nenduvel: depends on what's in the avi
[03:25] <pitti> pvanhoof: but \pagebreak _does_ a break, not avoid it
[03:25] <cafuego> nenduvel: 'w32codecs' should see you sorted in most cases
[03:25] <pvanhoof> pitti, indeed, but I could use it just above the block etc
[03:26] <pitti> pvanhoof: \nopagebreak might do what you want, but only for 2 or 3 lines
[03:26] <pitti> brenner: WYSIAWYG (almost)
[03:26] <inc7> still cant get realplayer to work, also cant get helix to work, anyone know of a .bin file that they know works on amd64 ubuntu
[03:26] <pvanhoof> but I'm going to try your suggestion \begin{figure} \end{figure}
[03:26] <pitti> pvanhoof: no, that's evil
[03:26] <pvanhoof> right?
[03:26] <cafuego> inc7: No. Run them in a 32bit chroot.
[03:26] <pitti> pvanhoof: figure is a float object and probably not what you want
[03:26] <Ng> inc7: it works in a 32bit chroot, they don't have a 64bit version
[03:26] <inc7> how?
[03:26] <pvanhoof> quote?
[03:26] <pitti> pvanhoof: try a quote block for a start
[03:26] <Seveas> !chroot
[03:26] <ubotu> chroot is, like, at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:26] <pvanhoof> ok
[03:27] <inc7> how do i get in a 32bit root
[03:27] <cafuego> inc7: read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:27] <inc7> thatks
[03:28] <cafuego> Maybe Ubuntu AMD64 needs a big displaimer-popup before it installs: "Java, Flash, DivX & XviD AVIs and DVDs will NOT work!"
[03:28] <moe__> thx for the help. i'm off cya
[03:29] <inc7> wow man, im a newbie to linux
[03:29] <Ng> cafuego: Ubuntu i386 doesn't install any of those things, so why should it? ;)
[03:30] <inc7> gonna take a bit to undertsnad what it s doin
[03:30] <cafuego> Ng: Because they _can_ work on i386, but not on amd64.
[03:31] <Ng> cafuego: I know what you're getting at, but it doesn't seem appropriate for Ubuntu to go out of its way to tell you that software which is against the good of Ubuntu isn't going to work ;)
[03:31] <batoms> does anyone else still get the .dmrc error when logging into X
[03:32] <batoms> i can't find anything in bugzilla about it
[03:33] <navilon> join /linux
[03:33] <cafuego> Ng: I thought that was the Debian policy, whereas Ubuntu was focusing on making it EASY for Desktop users to use Linux.
[03:33] <navilon> opps
[03:33] <navilon> sorry
[03:33] <cafuego> Ng: and they ALL want flash and Java in firefox
[03:34] <goomez> buenasssssssssssssss
[03:34] <navilon> hola
[03:34] <pitti> pvanhoof: btw, you know "info latex"? very helpful sometimes
[03:35] <goomez> pero este canal en que idioma es
[03:35] <goomez> jaja
[03:35] <pvanhoof> ok
[03:35] <navilon> sorry, that was about all the spanish i know
[03:35] <goomez> No hay nadie aqui que hable espaol?
[03:36] <goomez> soy el unico?
[03:36] <kemik> Ubuntu devels should try and make mediastuff easier to setup, ie; mp3, divx, flash etc.etc
[03:36] <batoms> yo puedo usar babelfish
[03:36] <brenner> !es
[03:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:36] <goomez> gracias
[03:36] <webtoe> kermik: ubuntu would love to but patents stop it
[03:36] <goomez> thanks
[03:37] <webtoe> kermik: you need licenses (or might need them) for most the things you just mentioned. or atleast the end user needs to agree to a contract
[03:37] <kemik> webtoe:  well, put all with nice packageing in extras ;)
[03:37] <kemik> or something.. as it is now it's just too hard for the newbi to install
[03:37] <kemik> (or so it seems)
[03:38] <brenner> obviously i need to read up on patent law, but if they're so bad, why are we allowed to install them as seperate packages?
[03:38] <webtoe> kermik: they would do but flash for example needs the user to agree to their terms through their webpage and legal obstacles stop ubuntu from distributing it
[03:38] <aigarius> webtoe, that is true, but that should not stop making a package called ubuntu-multimedia-extras that installs all the patented stuff (after enogh shouting at the user about patents and stuff)
[03:39] <aigarius> brenner, there are both patent issues (mp3, divx, ...) and copyright issues (Flash, Java)
[03:39] <webtoe> its not just patents but contracts. Most companies force as user to agree to a contract. this contract is written for the user to agree to and specifically deny people distributing it in any other form
[03:39] <Crystufer> thank god I finally made it in here.
[03:39] <brenner> ah, ok
[03:40] <brenner> i don't recall reading any disclaimers when i installed mp3/vid codecs capability though
[03:40] <Crystufer> Hey guys, is it worth trying to run ubuntu on a pentium 1?
[03:40] <kemik> webtoe:  mmh it sucks ;)
[03:40] <Seveas> Crystufer, yes, but not with gnome
[03:40] <Seveas> you need either no GUI or openbox
[03:40] <webtoe> divx makes you i think but don't remember. mp3's its a legal grey area where the patent holders could suddenly start asking for money
[03:40] <aigarius> still a programm that lets you click trough all needed disclaimers, EULAS and patent warning and then downloads and installs everything could be very usefull
[03:40] <Crystufer> So then I'd have to run it from the command line?
[03:41] <webtoe> aigarius: yes that would be better but probably not a priority i suppose
[03:41] <brenner> Crystufer: openbox is a more lightweight desktop environ.....there are others out there, xfce to name another
[03:41] <aigarius> webtoe, jep. we should propably propose it as a goal for the next release
[03:42] <dbee> Is anybody having problems connecting to Seavens blackbird test server repository lately ?????
[03:42] <brenner> Crystufer: in other words, no you don't *have* to use CL only, but running the default gnome might be sluggish
[03:42] <webtoe> hmmmm would of thought writing a small python/gtk app shouldn't be too hard but not sure
[03:42] <Crystufer> So it is gonna run uber slow until I switch desktop environments?
[03:42] <webtoe> not much of a programmer myself
[03:42] <aigarius> Crystufer, memory is also a very important issue
[03:42] <Crystufer> aigarius,  about 46 mb
[03:43] <brenner> 46?
[03:43] <Crystufer> lemme check
[03:43] <Seveas> Crystufer, :|
[03:43] <Seveas> that's gonna be slow anyway
[03:43] <Crystufer> 48
[03:43] <Crystufer> Yeah. I figured as much.
[03:44] <webtoe> Crystufer: maybe try another distro like slackware. then recompile your own kernel with stuff lopped out and pentium specific stuff in. then make sure the graphics card is set up right and run a light window manage
[03:44] <Crystufer> The alternative is windows. I'll go find a sharp stick.
[03:44] <Crystufer> webtoe, man, I can't do all that stuff.
[03:44] <aigarius> Crystufer, then it will be horribly slow, but I have run IceWm, sylpheed and some kind of a browser on 64 Mb and Pentium 233 MMX a few years ago
[03:45] <webtoe> well, even without recompiling the kernel it should be ok
[03:45] <kemik> Crystufer:  look into Vector Linux and icewm perhaps?
[03:45] <kemik> Crystufer:  i'm running debian-serverinstall and icewm on a p2-233 64mb ram box, and it's slow :)
[03:45] <webtoe> do you know what graphics card you have? i would try a different distro though. The only reason i suggested slack was because of its minimalism.
[03:46] <Crystufer> kemik, I'm just gonna deal with windows.
[03:46] <blaat> DjKritical, you still there?
[03:46] <chet> damn small linux for low powered systems?
[03:46] <aigarius> webtoe, debian is not fatter then slackware
[03:46] <Crystufer> thanks guys.
[03:46] <kemik> Crystufer:  well win98 is no walk in the park installing if you dont' have all the device-drivers
[03:46] <dbee> I'm having serious trouble trying to get a j2re running on my system, it tells me that the libc isn't right ?? anyone suggest a solution ?
[03:47] <Crystufer> I can download them. Toshiba has a nice collection of old drivers.
[03:47] <kemik> so have your driver-pack ready, and be prepared to reboot a trillion times ;)
[03:47] <Crystufer> good call kemik
[03:47] <blaat> DjKritical, one more thing. What kind of graphics card do you have??? (I think it was a Geforce 6800 problem, that Gnome wasn't booting). You'll need to search ubuntuforums.org
[03:48] <Crystufer> Anybody got a audigy zs?
[03:48] <chet> iven ever had a nice video card, but does ubuntu work well with nvidia?
[03:48] <webtoe> aigarius: i know its just i know slack default install has no x or anything set up, just drops you to command line and iknow it :D
[03:48] <Crystufer> And running ubuntu?
[03:48] <deprave> how do i go about having certain applications start when x starts?
[03:48] <aigarius> webtoe, same in debian :)
[03:49] <brenner> deprave: sys > prefs > sessions > startup progs maybe?
[03:49] <chet> good call brenner
[03:49] <brenner> need to be using gnome though
[03:49] <aigarius> deprave, either use gnome-session or make a new gdm session entery or make your own .xstartup script (if you use startx to start X)
[03:50] <webtoe> aigarius: ubuntu is my first debian like install
[03:51] <Crystufer> webtoe dito I'm running it on my mac.
[03:51] <hmrocha> hello
[03:52] <hmrocha> i need some help
[03:52] <deprave> hmrocha : ask your question
[03:52] <Xappe> ah, kyuss and forum surfing...that's life :)
[03:52] <webtoe> hmrocha: you came to the right place
[03:52] <eolo> hi, wich are the repositories for win32codecs?
[03:53] <brenner> webtoe: what if he wants someone to help him move furniture? :)
[03:53] <hmrocha> i'm switching all computers of my college from mandrake to ubuntu
[03:53] <aigarius> hmrocha, good call :)
[03:53] <webtoe> brenner: then i'll hop on a plane and be there as soon as possible :P
[03:53] <webtoe> i concur, good idea. never liked mandrake much...
[03:53] <hmrocha> we use a system that allows us to install the os in a box, and deploy the os to some computers
[03:53] <eolo> please reps for w32codecs
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> Seveas, i got errors installing sun jdk from Seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> can help ?
[03:53] <deFrysk> !w32codecs
[03:53] <hmrocha> what i want to do is, use the same image for all kinds of pc's
[03:54] <webtoe> hmrocha: over the network? server has the image and pushes it to the clients?
[03:54] <hmrocha> is that possible?
[03:54] <deFrysk> ! w32codecs
[03:54] <hmrocha> webtoe, yes, over the network
[03:54] <eolo> yes!! just to watch divx
[03:54] <hmrocha> all clients boot from PXE
[03:54] <deFrysk> ! restricted formats
[03:54] <ubotu> well, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[03:54] <webtoe> hmrocha: yes it is.  I have that at university (though they use a customised gentoo) not sure on the details though
[03:54] <hmrocha> a client turns on the computer and it prompts the user for winxp or ubuntu
[03:54] <webtoe> Linux Terminal Services is what you need i think
[03:54] <webtoe> yeah
[03:54] <webtoe> hang on and i'll google for it
[03:55] <hmrocha> they choose ubuntu and the system download the image to the hard disk
[03:55] <hmrocha> then boots
[03:55] <aigarius> hmrocha, is the sistem your are talking about already in place for Mandrake?
[03:55] <hmrocha> i created a script to configure the machine once i have ubuntu installed
[03:55] <webtoe> http://www.ltsp.org/
[03:55] <hmrocha> aigarius, yes, but they use a different image for each kind of pc
[03:56] <webtoe> think that's the system that's usually used
[03:56] <hmrocha> aigarius, previous system administrators
[03:56] <chet> i have a trackball mouse with like 7 buttons, are there any guides on getting it fully functional under ubuntu?
[03:56] <hmrocha> i'd like to use one image for all the pc's
[03:56] <aigarius> hmrocha, you could try to just try it. ubuntu handles hardware changes quite nicely
[03:56] <hmrocha> i have discovered one problem, ubuntu installation sets the hostname in /etc/hosts with the hostname set on the installation
[03:57] <Co> HI, anybody here knows about some good editor for PHP embedded in HTML for using on Ubuntu?
[03:57] <aigarius> hmrocha, try DHCP for that
[03:57] <hmrocha> aigarius, i tried, but it doesn't detect the cdrw on this machine
[03:57] <cheeby> hi.  has anyone here switched from gentoo for a production server?
[03:57] <apokryphos> Co: Quanta+
[03:57] <hmrocha> aigarius, the computer i installed the os is a dell with just a combo drive
[03:57] <chet> from gentoo to ubuntu for server? why not just use debian?
[03:57] <hmrocha> this computer is a fujitsu siemens with a cdrom drive and a cdrw
[03:57] <Co> thanks apokryphos
[03:58] <hmrocha> in Places->Computer only one drive appears
[03:58] <aigarius> hmrocha, yes, the devices have propably changed - if the writer was /dev/hdc at install and is /dev/hdd now, then the /etc/fstab will be wrong
[03:59] <hmrocha> aigarius, so, i'll have to create a script that changes the fstab for each kind of computer right?
[03:59] <aigarius> yes
[03:59] <cheeby> chet, I don't disagree.  just asking about ubuntu.  seems like less hassle to maintain.
[03:59] <Jowi> Hi all, when running "free -t" to see the "-/+ buffers/cache". 50% of my used up memory lies there as cached - 240MB. How can I see which program is using most cache?
[03:59] <webtoe> hmrocha: what sort of drive is it? weird that isn't not detected. Most ATAPI drivs should be detected at least for reading
[04:00] <aigarius> hmrocha, have you tried computers with different video cards? did the redetection go correctly there?
[04:00] <webtoe> hmrocha: still, you could have just one image, and in the boot script have a test for this one machine
[04:00] <aigarius> webtoe, IIRC ubuntu doesn't redetect IDE devices on bootup
[04:00] <hmrocha> aigarius, the video cards are different but it worked fine
[04:01] <aigarius> hmrocha, that is really good news. ubuntu X hackers worked quite a lot on that one :)
[04:01] <eolo> w32codecs repository FOR AMD64
[04:02] <brenner>  AMD64? See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[04:02] <brenner> [off ubotu's reply]
[04:02] <hmrocha> aigarius, i'm very happy for changing by boss' mind, she wanted mandrake
[04:03] <dbee> Hi, I get a 'can't stat source package list' when I try to connect with seavas' server for the updated j2re package. Anybody have any suggestions ?
[04:03] <brenner> hmrocha: if they're used to kde, might be worth going for kubuntu
[04:03] <hmrocha> brenner, no, almost no one uses linux because the mandrake images were the worst thing ever
[04:04] <deFrysk> might even be worth switching to gnome ;)
[04:04] <brenner> ah, ok :)
[04:05] <brenner> *nod*  first time i've heard of mandrake being chosen for that role actually ... it's usually fedora
[04:05] <webtoe> airarius: doesn't ubuntu recheck? the kernel does each time it boots it searches for ide drives. Setting up mount points is the job of /etc/fstab but labs will probably have the same setup on each disk (and if not they shoudl!)
[04:05] <webtoe> hmrocha: I suggest reading up on the hotplug subsystem as well since it might be able to aid in autodetection
[04:05] <inc7> debian 386 for amd64?
[04:05] <inc7> or powerpc, is powerpc mac or?
[04:06] <Crystufer> powerpc is macs
[04:06] <hmrocha> brenner, everyone will like ubuntu (i hope so)
[04:07] <brenner> hmrocha: think you mistook me, kubuntu is pretty much ubuntu, but with kde instead of ubuntu's gnome
[04:07] <webtoe> hmrocha: if they dont like ubuntu send them on here and we'll give them a talking to
[04:07] <hmrocha> brenner, but i want students to use gnome ;)
[04:07] <inc7> not good for some programs tho
[04:07] <inc7> and i need realplayer for streams
[04:07] <inc7> should be priority for them workin on 64bit code
[04:07] <Sonderblade> i have configured a printer with system->administration->printers and i can print a test page but i can't print to it from any other program
[04:07] <hmrocha> webtoe, i'm good at changing people's minds too :)
[04:08] <aigarius> webtoe, the thing is that /etc/fstab is not updated on boot, so the new IDE devices are not usable until it updated by the admin.
[04:08] <inc7> gettin a 32 bit enviroment is crazy, should i install ubuntu 32 bit?
[04:08] <hmrocha> aigarius, i'll just do a "echo /dev/hda.... >> /etc/fstab"
[04:08] <hmrocha> it should work
[04:09] <inc7> i just dont wanna go back to ms but i want everythin to work
[04:09] <brenner> hmrocha: ah, ok... *i* misundestood you then. :)
[04:09] <hmrocha> aigarius, the only problem is knowing what kind of pc's i'm booting in
[04:10] <hmrocha> aigarius, i still don't know how to change the hostname on boot
[04:11] <frans-th> hi all
[04:11] <frans-th> back from work
[04:11] <frans-th> anyone canonical person here?
[04:11] <aigarius> hmrocha, if you are talking about that CD drive problem, then chect /proc/ide/
[04:11] <frans-th> i want asking about offline media repo
[04:11] <hmrocha> running dhclient should change the hostname?
[04:12] <aigarius> hmrocha, how about making a hostname from the last digit of the IP address
[04:12] <ginger_> usb on hoary? anyone?
[04:12] <frans-th> alo
[04:12] <rittap> hi all
[04:12] <brenner> usb what?
[04:12] <frans-th> anyone can help me?
[04:12] <frans-th> i need a how to make DVD based on hoary repo
[04:12] <apokryphos> frans-th: hi :). Did you not get a reply by email?
[04:12] <ginger_> i reinstalled and now have no signs of usb life
[04:12] <hmrocha> aigarius, dhcp gives hostnames like lab-1226 being 1 the building, 2 the floor and 26 the room
[04:13] <ginger_> it worked in warty
[04:13] <hmrocha> aigarius, with the room, i know the kind of the pc
[04:13] <ginger_> then i did a clean reinstall
[04:13] <ginger_> and upgraded to hoary from apt
[04:13] <frans-th> what email? i not receive your email but paul :P
[04:13] <ginger_> and no signs of life
[04:13] <frans-th> how r u there apokrypt
[04:13] <DjKritical-> if your computer turns off during the ram test included in UBCD... is that bad? :D
[04:13] <frans-th> the canonical guy not reply my email :(
[04:13] <apokryphos> very good thanks :)
[04:14] <apokryphos> frans-th: it's worth waiting, they're busy guys
[04:14] <apokryphos> frans-th: I'd say give it a week or so
[04:14] <Sonderblade> lpr filename prints, gedit prints but firefox and abiword are not able to print why?
[04:14] <frans-th> the good news, goverment agree to make the donation of PC become 80% ubuntu, 20% widnows :)
[04:14] <frans-th> see, who is the sponsor :P microsoft :P
[04:14] <apokryphos> frans-th: nice!
[04:14] <frans-th> and total PC is 800 :) see 800 ubuntu :)
[04:14] <frans-th> and they agree to use ubuntu hoary
[04:14] <aigarius> hmrocha, I am looking into /etc/dhcp3/ to see if there is an option to use hostname from dhcp
[04:15] <frans-th> and my team here will support it :) and we will do in voluntaire based:)
[04:15] <apokryphos> nice =)
[04:15] <hmrocha> aigarius, thanks
[04:15] <frans-th> so , i just must think how to make survive and the support of those pc stil can work
[04:15] <brenner> ginger_: search the forum while you wait
[04:15] <brenner> *for a response
[04:15] <frans-th> but need the how to or DVD of offline media to distribute
[04:16] <apokryphos> yeah
[04:16] <frans-th> what r u doing there apokrpt :P
[04:16] <frans-th> do you have skype :P
[04:16] <apokryphos> I don't unfortunately, no.
[04:17] <frans-th> :P
[04:17] <apokryphos> Not doing much; just staying here, addicted to IRC. :P
[04:17] <evanpro> I gotta question about OpenOffice.org2 on Breezy
[04:17] <evanpro> I just upgraded, and I get a message "no suitable windowing system found, exiting." when I try to start an oo.o program
[04:17] <frans-th> hehe,
[04:17] <frans-th> anyway, i still have question
[04:18] <frans-th> why in ubuntu no have a common repo, so the repo wil be use by all ubuntu, from warty to breezy
[04:18] <frans-th> can you help?
[04:18] <reagleBRKLN> how do i make entice the login manager? when i install it, it doesn't configure itself like {k,g}dm.
[04:18] <frans-th> i think wasting time managing several repo for one use, esp, upgrade mozilla :P
[04:18] <aigarius> hmrocha, you must make the /etc/hostname file empty or use "(none)" as hostname for the hostname replacement to work
[04:18] <dbee> Why does this connection string in scripts give me a can't stat source package list "http://seavas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu universe" ... pls help !
[04:19] <apokryphos> frans-th: because there's different versions
[04:19] <aigarius> hmrocha, see /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script function set_hostname()
[04:19] <apokryphos> frans-th: breezy, for example, is going to be the new ones. It's what the devs are working on now. It was very unstable a few weeks ago
[04:19] <frans-th> apokrypt: and will breeze have a common repo?
[04:20] <frans-th> i think, my repo will work lie this, i will delete all the non newest repo, and push everyone to use the newest one
[04:20] <hmrocha> aigarius, thanks, i'll look into that
[04:20] <frans-th> what do you think apkrypt?
[04:20] <apokryphos> frans-th: breezy have a common repo  -- what do you mean?
[04:20] <benkong2> Is there one command that will let me install kde? apt-get install kde apt-get install kde-desktop kubuntu kubuntu-desktop etc. all fail. I ahve added the kubutu repos in synaptic. but no go. //:-p
[04:20] <brenner> dbee: probably 'cos you spelt seveas wrong. :)
[04:21] <ginger_> brenner, i'll keep looking. at this point it looks like most people have specific device issues
[04:21] <frans-th> common repo, is the repo that will use by breezy and newest ubuntu
[04:21] <aigarius> dbee, because the needed package list file ("Packages.gz" or .bz2) could not be downloaded. there must be other errors above - about "not found" or "connection error"
[04:21] <brenner> benkong2: install kubuntu-desktop
[04:21] <benkong2> brenner, i'll try thanks
[04:21] <brenner> benkong2: then choose it from the sessions menu at the login screen
[04:21] <apokryphos> frans-th: breezy *is* the newest ubuntu. But it's not out offically yet
[04:22] <Gul3> hello. i try to unrar a 2GB rar file, but unrar leavs me a CRC failed message.. what does that mean, and what do i do?
[04:22] <frans-th> apokryp: this is only a case :P,
[04:22] <frans-th> is my idea about make push to newest version is cool?
[04:22] <dbee> brenner: ya, sorry about that ... I miss spelt it on the irc only though ... the real connection string is ok
[04:22] <frans-th> so the ubuntu support from my repo only the newest - 1 version
[04:22] <Letis> hi, I installed ubuntu 5.04, shouldnt it be able to play MP3s as default or do I need special codecs? Because when I start Rhthmbox, i
[04:22] <apokryphos> That could be cool, yes.
[04:22] <aigarius> frans-th, breezy is not stable enough for broad use.
[04:22] <benkong2> brenner, I get Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <Letis> t does not see the file
[04:23] <frans-th> yah, my repo will start from hoary :P
[04:23] <aigarius> frans-th, too much work going on
[04:23] <apokryphos> frans-th: If Indonesia had repositories for the latest stable, then that would be good
[04:23] <apokryphos> frans-th: good idea
[04:23] <frans-th> and will add to breeze (the stable)...
[04:23] <brenner> dbee: why not ask the man himself?  (this is the 1st i've heard of Seveas having his own repo!) :)
[04:23] <frans-th> i think there is a repo for ubuntu in indonesia, vlsm.org that repo the debian, repo the ubuntu also :) i will take a look,
[04:23] <Gul3> hello. i try to unrar a 2GB rar file, but unrar leavs me a CRC failed message.. what does that mean, and what do i do? please..
[04:23] <apokryphos> frans-th: when breezy is stable you can have that there too, yes.
[04:24] <frans-th> bu the owner is not reply my email :( that is bad, i know the owner well :(
[04:24] <brenner> benkong2: seomthings up with your sources.list
[04:24] <apokryphos> frans-th: cool
[04:24] <apokryphos> frans-th: that's a shame :O
[04:24] <brenner> benkong2: try replacing it with this:
[04:24] <brenner> !repos
[04:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:24] <frans-th> yah, i will add breeze stable repo also, but i think our team will support onlye the newest -1 :)
[04:24] <brenner> benkong2: (the pastebin link) and then sudo apt-get update
[04:24] <frans-th> but i think unbuntu must have a common repo :)
[04:24] <frans-th> like apache2, php, it is coomon, will use by all ubuntu version right
[04:24] <benkong2> brenner, my repos are ##Kubuntu deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main deb-src http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main
[04:24] <benkong2> ok
[04:24] <frans-th> i will manage the common repo here :P
[04:25] <apokryphos> frans-th: nope; because packages are built for different versions
[04:25] <dbee> aigarius: I seem to be getting a connection refused http err message ... all night long ... ahhh ! ... the web server is up though, cause I'm on his page at the moment
[04:25] <dePOLL> erm.. guys.. what is an "upstream Alioth package" resp. where do i get it?
[04:25] <brenner> benkong2: afaik, bad idea to use kubuntu repos with ubuntu :)
[04:25] <frans-th> apokrypt: build different? what is that mean..
[04:25] <frans-th> apok: i think apache2 is same :P
[04:25] <frans-th> it is webserver right
[04:26] <benkong2> brenner, oh going to pastebin brb
[04:26] <apokryphos> frans-th: my apache2 (on breezy) won't work on an apache2 for Hoary :)
[04:26] <brenner> dbee: what instructions are you following anyway? the wiki for java points to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[04:26] <StrikeForce> whats the command to find the UTC time
[04:26] <StrikeForce> time something?
[04:26] <dbee> brenner: that's probably a good idea, he was on here earlier and I would have thought that he'd mention if his server was down ... on the otherhand though he may not have known himself
[04:26] <brenner> dbee: i can't see any mention of a seveas repo in that
[04:26] <frans-th> apok: how can be? apache have different version?
[04:26] <frans-th> sarge and woody, share the same apache2 repo, this is a good idae
[04:27] <apokryphos> frans-th: partly, but also because the distributions change. The core (and essential) packages change, so when apache is made, it has different needs
[04:27] <dbee> brenner: I've been surfing the net most of the day, I got the instructions from here actually ... about 2hrs ago
[04:27] <apokryphos> frans-th: so that applications run faster in future versions
[04:27] <zblach> g'morning
[04:27] <brenner> dbee: define 'here'. :)
[04:27] <dbee> brenner: here as in #ubuntu irc
[04:27] <zblach> anyone know anything about wireless networking?
[04:27] <frans-th> apok: i have a case, i have warty, i want install apache 2.0.58,
[04:28] <frans-th> apok: i have hoary with apache 2.0.57, and the apache-2.0.58.deb
[04:28] <apokryphos> !find apache warty
[04:28] <brenner> dbee: maybe i should've asked "who"? :)
[04:28] <frans-th> how can i cannot install it :) it same source :(
[04:28] <apokryphos> frans-th: there is no apache2 in Warty
[04:28] <frans-th> what is cononical team doing with this both version? so make those different
[04:28] <zblach> i am unable to find any wireless networks using my card, but its fine in windows
[04:28] <apokryphos> frans-th: it was only built (made) for Hoary
[04:29] <bina> #debian-bot
[04:29] <bina> whoops :)
[04:29] <frans-th> apok: what is build made?
[04:29] <frans-th> apok: build on hoary?
[04:29] <bina> ok, that chan doesnt exist anyway :)
[04:29] <benkong2> brenner, look here at my repos please? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1601
[04:29] <apokryphos> frans-th: yes. Warty is very different to Hoary.
[04:29] <dbee> brenner: I wanted to use a repository if possible because I'm having a bit of trouble with the development tools .. namely the make program that is there - but isn't actually there at all ... I'm a bit of a unix newbie !
[04:29] <larsrohdin> hi, im trying to install java runtime environmetn so i can install azureus... but i don't really understand what iam supposed to do... I've downloaded the .bin file from Sun, and ran it with sh foo.bin.... then what?
[04:30] <apokryphos> frans-th: it's like trying to use Ubuntu apache package on Debian :)
[04:30] <dbee> brenner: seavas himself was posting here a while ago, I presume that it was the man himself
[04:30] <brenner> dbee: i would assume so
[04:30] <frans-th> alo
[04:30] <brenner> dbee: for make, you can install build-essential
[04:30] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell larsrohdin about java
[04:30] <brenner> dbee: but if you want to install java, i'd just follow the wiki
[04:31] <webtoe> !java
[04:31] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:31] <webtoe> see that
[04:31] <hmrocha> aigarius, i was looking to the set_hostname function
[04:31] <hmrocha> aigarius, but i can't find where it sets $new_host_name
[04:31] <brenner> benkong2: personally, i'd comment out bakcports, extras, kubuntu ones, and cdrom
[04:31] <apokryphos> frans-th: just so you see, try typing apok and then hit the <tab> button
[04:31] <hmrocha> aigarius, strange
[04:32] <dbee> brenner: ya, I installed build-essential but I still have a make problem somewhere ... anyway I think you are right, I'll try the wiki method ... thanks and all the best
[04:32] <apokryphos> brenner: erm, why?
[04:32] <twibbler> does anybody know of any problems with skype under ubuntu ?.
[04:32] <icewt> twibbler, it works fine for me
[04:32] <rittap> no problems here too
[04:33] <frans-th> apok: sorry dics
[04:33] <brenner> apokryphos: apokryphos er, i was under the impression you should stick with main, uni amdn multi, only enabling others when you need a certain package, and to comment them out again after use
[04:33] <frans-th> apok: what is the different of those
[04:33] <twibbler> icewt: it keeps not sending the message like connection issue ...
[04:33] <aigarius> hmrocha, it is getting it from the caller script IIRC. try it
[04:33] <tcpip> is wiki updated for hoary/amd64
[04:33] <apokryphos> brenner: incorrect
[04:33] <apokryphos> frans-th: many, many differences
[04:33] <brenner> dbee: hopefully your future experiences with linux aren't as frustrating :)
[04:33] <zblach> no wireless gurus?
[04:33] <benkong2> brenner, ok working.....
[04:34] <frans-th> apok: i am glad if you can explain, so i can explain to the user also here
[04:34] <brenner> benkong2: goodo
[04:34] <webtoe> zblach: what card do you have and what drivers you using?
[04:34] <apokryphos> !breezy
[04:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[04:34] <icewt> twibbler, what do you mean?
[04:34] <brenner> apokryphos: so the others are safe to always have enabled?
[04:34] <apokryphos> frans-th: see that link above for changes in breezy
[04:34] <survivor> I have no clue how to setup ubuntu to use both monitors, can anyone point me into the right direction manpage-wise?
[04:34] <apokryphos> brenner: you shouldn't have marillat; hoary-extras is your own choice, really; it had packages which were of questionable legality. Kubuntu one of course is fine to always have
[04:34] <frans-th> apok: i am reading
[04:35] <apokryphos> Backports it is of course fine to always have; it's an Ubuntu sub-project
[04:35] <frans-th> apok: i just dont get the point, how can same apps, same distro, but have several version
[04:35] <twibbler> icewt: I type in an instant message and it doesn't send .. and I cant connect a phone conversation ...gaim irc etc all working great so I know its not the network or internet connection ...
[04:35] <twibbler> also works fine on windoze PC ...
[04:35] <icewt> twibbler, hm..
[04:35] <apokryphos> frans-th: it's exactly the same for all distributions. Check Mandrake, Redhat, Fedora, Debian etc etc
[04:35] <brenner> apokryphos: ok, then, thanks for the lesson. :)
[04:35] <twibbler> icwt: exactly ...
[04:35] <icewt> twibbler, are you sure you're online with it?-)
[04:36] <twibbler> I installed the debian package from skype site and it shows online ... as I can send two messages the it stops ..
[04:36] <frans-th> apok: but i think if we can get the common thing that will be cool, ubuntu is one manufacturer, redhat, mandriva and suse, 3 companies
[04:36] <brenner> apokryphos: but what about the times i've heard where people have broken their systems using backports?
[04:36] <tott> damn.. i need help.. :S
[04:36] <survivor> Anyone used ubuntu with more than one monitor?
[04:36] <frans-th> apok: hoary, breeze, is only version :(
[04:36] <nico_> hello
[04:36] <apokryphos> brenner: that was likely referring to the old backport system (which was backports + hoary-extras) -- didn't used to be official
[04:37] <Hoxzer> what is good place to search linux drivers?
[04:37] <frans-th> apok: i use debian repo : ) for apache 2 upgrade, work well :P
[04:37] <brenner> apokryphos: ah, ok
[04:37] <apokryphos> shaky
[04:37] <hmrocha> aigarius, i can't find that iirc script
[04:37] <frans-th> all: what is backport?
[04:37] <tott> anyone got time to help? got a resolution prob..
[04:37] <brenner> survivor: ati or nvidia?
[04:37] <survivor> nvidia
[04:37] <survivor> GeForce4 MX440
[04:38] <rittap> tott: what for resolution prob??
[04:38] <brenner> tott: let me guess, can't access higher res'?
[04:38] <tott> rittap: yeah!
[04:38] <twibbler> icewt: just got skype icon on start menu ... not had that before ...
[04:38] <rittap> tott: you sure your video supports it
[04:39] <brenner> tott: was that yeah for me?
[04:39] <tott_> yes.. sorry.
[04:39] <brice_> I've been having problems connecting to aim using naim...do I need to forward any ports to my linux box?
[04:39] <brenner> survivor: i'd search the forums
[04:39] <survivor> thanks, will do
[04:39] <brenner> tott:
[04:39] <brenner> !fixres
[04:39] <ubotu> fixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:39] <icewt> twibbler, all i know is that when i first fired it up and created an account, it somehow looked like it already was online, but it wasn't untill i did something i can't quite remember. but if you are able to send a few messages with it..
[04:40] <rittap> repost to tott: you sure your video card supports it
[04:40] <tott_> brenner: tried that..
[04:40] <rittap> tott: if it does:
[04:40] <twibbler> icewt: yep but now got Message "message" not delivered yet ... arrrgggghhhhh sounds like a wiki search .
[04:40] <benkong2> brenner, you and ubotu ; are awesome its working flawlessly \\:-D
[04:40] <rittap> then fixres is the option
[04:40] <brenner> benkong2: ubotu's a bot :)
[04:41] <brenner> tott: ok, then i'll walk you through ... post your xorg.conf to the pastebin in the topic
[04:41] <benkong2> brenner, I no but whoever made the bot it sure gives good info
[04:41] <inc7> hi, anyone know how i burn an iso imag to a cd
[04:41] <aigarius> hmrocha, I meant that if I recall correctly (IIRC), then it gets the params from another script
[04:41] <brenner> benkong2: everyone contributed to the trigger replies :)
[04:41] <Kyral> hey, anyone know how to set "universal" permissions on an ext3 drive?
[04:41] <apokryphos> benkong2: anyone can contribute to the bot
[04:41] <tott_> brenner: ok thanks.
[04:41] <inc7> gives me the option to extract, do i first then burn?
[04:41] <Kyral> ie, make it so anyone can have full access to it?
[04:42] <tsw> hi all, Im having strange problem with my ibm thinkpad. I booted it today and I cant get pcmcia to work. /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart says "pcmcia not present" (running 2.6.10-5-686) any ideas where to look. it worked fine few days ago
[04:42] <benkong2> cool I must learn how some day as my linux skill improves
[04:42] <rittap> inc7: many programs support burning an iso already
[04:42] <rittap> inc7: else unpacking is a good option
[04:42] <twibbler> icewt: could it be the port settings in advanced .....
[04:42] <brenner> !lis!tell benkong2 about list
[04:42] <ubotu> Wish i knew, brenner
[04:42] <rittap> inc7:but make sure that the folder structure remains intact
[04:42] <brenner> !tell benkong2 about list
[04:43] <brice_> When I connect with  naim...it prompts me for my password...but never completes the connection...it just sits tehre forever.  Any suggestions?
[04:43] <apokryphos> benkong2: just use the syntax: ubotu: X is at http://something.com
[04:43] <Kyral> anyone?
[04:43] <apokryphos> benkong2: you can do via /msg too
[04:43] <twibbler> cwert: like it says use port 80... but I have apache installed on the laptop.
[04:43] <bina> when using apt-get install wine, i get the error  wine: Depends: libwine (= 0.0.20050310-1.1) but 0.0.20050419-1~5.04ubp1 is to be installed.  Is there some way I can stop this, or change it so as that package wont be isntalled and the other will?
[04:43] <bina> will it do much damage if i just force it n ignore it :)
[04:44] <benkong2> apokryphos, brenner ; thanks
[04:44] <tsw> anyone with pcmcia knowledge?
[04:45] <tott_> brenner: pasted som stuff.. need more?
[04:46] <brenner> tott: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[04:46] <hmrocha> aigarius, reading the script, if the hostname is *null*, it sets the hostname
[04:47] <hmrocha> aigarius, so i changed the hostname to "" and ran dhclient, it worked perfectly
[04:47] <tott_> okie
[04:47] <aigarius> hmrocha, great
[04:47] <rod> hi
[04:47] <Thunder000> is there a way to insall ubuntu using a network installation ?
[04:47] <rod> im here to help
[04:47] <larsrohdin> ok, since you just pointed me to wiki.ubuntu.com/java, where it says "NB: the hoary-extras mirrors seem to have problems now (24 aug)." Maybe someone can tell me when it will be fixed?
[04:47] <brenner> tott: just checking: you wanted 1024 as your default res?
[04:47] <rod> Thunder000, you can do a server install and then apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <tott_> brenner: no.. that's what i got now.. would like 1600*1200
[04:48] <brenner> tott: ok, first things first, what did the command above return?
[04:48] <tott_> brenner: nothing
[04:49] <brenner> tott: eek, means we can't autodetect your monitor rates, we'll try using 1600 anyway
[04:49] <tott_> ok
[04:49] <brenner> tott: er, do you know how to use a console editor?  (in case things stuff up)
[04:50] <mrdeath> hello all
[04:50] <tott_> not really..
[04:50] <benji> Anyone here ever have a problem when connecting with naim?  It prompts me for my password, but never fully connects.
[04:50] <brenner> er, ok then: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf etc/X11/xorg.backup'
[04:50] <tott_> brenner: but if things fuck up i could just boot win.
[04:50] <mrdeath> i'm trying to build new initrd for 2.6.12 kernel, and can't figure my problem out
[04:50] <mrdeath> mkinitrd -o./initrd.new 2.6.12-7-686
[04:51] <brenner> tott: booting win won't fix things though :)
[04:51] <mrdeath> at the end i'm got no such image
[04:51] <tott_> brenner: done
[04:51] <jbailey> mrdeath: What are you doing that needs a new initrd?
[04:51] <brenner> tott: do that to make a backup copy
[04:51] <tott_> brenne: hehe.. nope..
[04:51] <tott_> brenner: ok.. done
[04:51] <jbailey> mrdeath: -o really wants an absolute path.
[04:51] <brenner> tott: ok, we're gonna edit the file, before we do, write this down somewhere
[04:51] <mrdeath> jbailey: with default initrd  system come to kernel panic
[04:51] <jbailey> mrdeath: This is current breezy?
[04:52] <brenner> tott: sudo cp etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:52] <mrdeath> jbailey: it seems that it try to boot with lvm
[04:52] <mrdeath> jbailey: yep
[04:52] <jbailey> mrdeath: Great, let's troubleshoot that first.
[04:52] <brenner> tott: that will revert to the original copy
[04:52] <jbailey> mrdeath: Are you using lilo or grub as your bootloader?
[04:52] <mrdeath> jbailey: lilo
[04:52] <brenner> tott: if X doesn't start for some reason after we edit this file, type that and you should be able to get back in
[04:53] <jbailey> mrdeath: For now, edit your /etc/lilo.conf file and add append = "root=/dev/FOO", replacing FOO with whatever is on the root line above that.
[04:53] <tott_> brenner: ok
[04:53] <brenner> tott: done? now, see the lines with 1024X768?
[04:53] <tott_> yes
[04:53] <Thunder000> how can I install Ubuntu from am image on another machine (Network Install ) ?
[04:54] <brenner> tott: insert 1600x1200 before 1024, so the line should look like:
[04:54] <mrdeath> jbailey: i allready have /dev/hda2 there. or F00 is new udev name?
[04:54] <brenner> Modes                "1600x1200" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[04:54] <tott_> okies
[04:54] <brenner> tott: correction: edit _all_ the mode lines to that
[04:54] <mrdeath> jbailey: /whois jbailey
[04:54] <tott_> ok.
[04:54] <mrdeath> ups
[04:55] <morbidi> Thunder000: do the machines are equal ?
[04:55] <brenner> tott_: tell me when you're done
[04:55] <jbailey> mrdeath: You already have append="root=/dev/hda2" ?
[04:55] <morbidi> I think if you want a equal instalation you can do rsync -a
[04:55] <jbailey> mrdeath: Or do you just have root=/dev/hda2 ?
[04:55] <tott_> brenner: will do
[04:55] <mrdeath> jbailey: nope. no append
[04:55] <mrdeath> okay. i will try to add it
[04:56] <jbailey> mrdeath: You need to add the append line for now.
[04:56] <mrdeath> okay
[04:56] <mrdeath> jbailey: be right back after reboot
[04:57] <kerry_> newbie
[04:57] <kerry_> I am having video problems after instal
[04:57] <kerry_> my monitor is blank
[04:57] <kerry_> anyone have any ideas
[04:57] <Kyral> Nothing at all?
[04:57] <cyprinus> compiling program give me an information back: error libz not found - please install libz-devel
[04:57] <kerry_> total darkness
[04:57] <brenner> when does it go blank?
[04:57] <cyprinus> how can I do it in the easiest way?
[04:58] <brenner> is the monitor still on though?
[04:58] <Kyral> cyprinus, I'm not seeing in the Repos
[04:58] <kerry_> I have gotten it completely through the install and I remove the cd and then it does the intial restart  and then it goes blank
[04:58] <cyprinus> how can I place it in Repos?
[04:59] <hmrocha> aigarius, ok, the hostname problem is solved, now, the *new* ide drive
[04:59] <Jowi> kerry_: you have to be more precise. do you get past the boormanager?
[04:59] <cyprinus> dpkg -i libz-devel*
[04:59] <cyprinus> doesn't do anything
[04:59] <hmrocha> aigarius, i should create a /media/cdrom1 and add the entry to the fstab
[04:59] <cyprinus> next error
[04:59] <cyprinus> Kyral?
[05:00] <hmrocha> Xenguy, :D
[05:00] <Kyral> I did an Apt-cache search for it
[05:00] <Xenguy> ;-)
[05:00] <Evil> elo all :)
[05:00] <mrdeath> jbailey: no luck
[05:00] <fluffybunny_> i seem to be having issues with sound -->  every mp3 or other sound file I play (using XMMS) seems to be distorted (you know like the sound you get when the volume is too loud?) --> how do I fix this?
[05:00] <jbailey> mrdeath: Did you rerun 'lilo' before you rebooted?
[05:00] <mrdeath> jbailey: kernel says that 'no /dev/hda2 found'
[05:00] <mrdeath> jbailey: yep
[05:00] <brenner> fluffybunny_: lower your volumes
[05:01] <webtoe> fluffybunny_: I used to have this problem if the volume was turned to hi for PCM in the volume control
[05:01] <jbailey> mrdeath: What's the output of lsmod | grep ^ide_core
[05:01] <jbailey>  ?
[05:01] <kerry_> any ideas on my monitor
[05:01] <mrdeath> jbailey: ide_core              130384  27 ide_disk,ide_generic,via82cxxx,trm290,triflex,slc90e66,sis5513,siimage,serverworks,sc1200,rz1000,piix,pdc202xx_old,opti621,ns87415,hpt366,hpt34x,generic,cy82c693,cs5530,cs5520,cmd64x,atiixp,amd74xx,alim15x3,aec62xx,pdc202xx_new
[05:01] <benkong2> brenner, apokryphos ; woopieeee it works of to check out KDE
[05:01] <brenner> kerry_: after the reboot? do you hear your HDD working?  that's when the packages are being configured
[05:01] <fluffybunny_> brenner: and webtoe: that doesn't seem to help?
[05:02] <kerry_> yeah
[05:02] <apokryphos> benkong2: nice!
[05:02] <mrdeath> jbailey: i use kernel from debian testing now
[05:02] <medamaybe> hi@all
[05:02] <kerry_> for awhile then it quits
[05:02] <brenner> fluffybunny_: what output plugin you using?
[05:02] <jbailey> mrdeath: Can you /msg me the entire output of your lsmod output?  (Don't flood it in here)
[05:02] <Poromies> fluffybunny_: try to adjust your mixer / alsamixer settings.. i had a problem like that, and it was coz alsamixer had my "line-out" at full 100%
[05:02] <medamaybe> does anyone know why I can't add my "volume control applet" to any panels?
[05:02] <mrdeath> jbailey: sure
[05:02] <Jowi> kerry_: you can try to turn off the framebuffer before installation (press F7 at install boot screen to see how)
[05:02] <brenner> kerry_: can you get to the grub menu?
[05:02] <Poromies> at 90% soundquality was perfect
[05:02] <Chadza> Anyoe have an idea as to a program that could save a webpage and everything that is up to 2 links away from it?
[05:03] <kerry_> grub?is that right at start up?
[05:03] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> can anyone help me please? i'm really noob though
[05:03] <fluffybunny_> brenner and Poromies : uhm.. noob here... how do I (a) check what output plugin I'm using, and/or adjust alsamixer?
[05:03] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> ah just read topic :P
[05:03] <brenner> fluffybunny_: for the plugin, ctrl+p in xmms, then look in the plugins area, change the output plugin to esound
[05:04] <brenner> fluffybunny_: for alsamixer, type alsamixer in a terminal
[05:04] <webtoe> Chadza: have you looked at curl or wget?
[05:04] <Oewyn> !ndiswrapper
[05:04] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[05:04] <tott> brenner: it worked.. thanks alot!  :D
[05:04] <webtoe> !curl
[05:04] <ubotu> webtoe: Are you smoking crack?
[05:04] <brenner> tott: nice
[05:05] <webtoe> lol
[05:05] <webtoe> !wget
[05:05] <ubotu> webtoe: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:05] <brenner> tott: copy the xorg.conf somewhere in case you need to do a reinstall
[05:05] <brenner> tott: but i guess you know how to fix it now anyways :)
[05:05] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> i got an error when installing ubuntu to my partition that i made for the install, and when i progress it asks me to log in with the account details i set up, so i do, but there is no graphics its all just text...
[05:05] <tott> brenner: yeah.. ;)
[05:06] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> i know that's the dumbest question ever posted here
[05:06] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> but i have nfi :(
[05:06] <Jowi> ScOrPiO-MoFF: there was no question in what you wrote.
[05:06] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> that makes it even dumber lol
[05:06] <xenomeliteforce> isn't it possible to use audio output for >1 applications simultaneously with alsa?
[05:06] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> erm well how can i fix that?
[05:07] <Jowi> ScOrPiO-MoFF: fix exactly what? your internet connection?
[05:07] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: yes it is
[05:07] <EasterSunshine> !info curl
[05:07] <Oewyn> whenever i run ndiswrapper , i get this error code when i try to load my winxp driver something about a parsing error... Do i need to use the latest version of Ndiswraper instead of the one that came with Hoary?
[05:07] <ubotu> curl: (Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server), section web, is optional. Version: 7.12.3-2ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 161 kB, Installed size: 256 kB
[05:08] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> how can i get my ubuntu install to show me something that isn't just text... like GUI... if that's the right term
[05:08] <brenner> ScOrPiO-MoFF: so you log in, but you just get a command line prompt?
[05:08] <apokryphos> ScOrPiO-MoFF: what happens when you hit startx?
[05:08] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> yes
[05:08] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> there is no startx
[05:08] <brenner> ScOrPiO-MoFF: type it in
[05:08] <EasterSunshine> ScOrPiO-MoFF: did you do a server install?
[05:08] <Jowi> ScOrPiO-MoFF: are you talking about the installation process or after Ubuntu has installed?
[05:09] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> LOL i'm so stupid, sorry :(
[05:09] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> after it's installed
[05:09] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> but an error occurs in installation
[05:09] <ioboss> hi
[05:09] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> and takes me to that screen
[05:09] <brenner> ScOrPiO-MoFF: no, you're not stupid....not your fault
[05:09] <ioboss> where i can download new login-teme?
[05:09] <apokryphos> ScOrPiO-MoFF: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <survivor> I need a package that's only available for Breezy (Boost 1.32) but have Hoary.
[05:10] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> k i'll write that down, thanks
[05:10] <survivor> What's the best route to get that?
[05:10] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: But when I use XMMS (with ALSA output) and then start Unreal Tournament 2004, I get no sound in UT (here I can only choose "OpenAL") :/
[05:10] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[05:10] <Ng> survivor: upgrade to breezy (unstable), wait for breezy to be released (october) or try and recompile the package yourself
[05:10] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: at the bottom
[05:10] <EasterSunshine> survivor: i have heard of some that changes hoary to breezy in their sources.list, installed the package, and change their srouces.list back
[05:10] <fluffybunny_> Sound distortion: playing with alsamixer doesn't help at all. i've been told to ask if ubuntu uses arts or esd?
[05:10] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: shaky business
[05:11] <Ng> EasterSunshine: that's asking for trouble ;)
[05:11] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: thank you. I'll read it
[05:11] <sproingie> fluffybunny_: ubuntu uses esd, kubuntu uses arts
[05:11] <brenner> fluffybunny_: did you try and change the output plugin?
[05:11] <xenomeliteforce> only used a German wiki before :)
[05:11] <survivor> Ng: How do I update to breezy?
[05:11] <EasterSunshine> sproingie: that's wierd, i'm on kubuntu using esd...
[05:11] <EasterSunshine> !upgrade2breezy
[05:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, upgrade2breezy is sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:11] <sproingie> survivor: if you have to ask, grasshoppa, you are not ready
[05:11] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> apokryphos: thanks for the advice! i will try, and come back if i have any problems
[05:11] <znh> hello
[05:11] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: are you german? :)
[05:12] <Ng> survivor: see what ubotu just said, but be aware that it is unstable and not yet released - it may not work!
[05:12] <sproingie> uboto, upgrade2breezy is also if and when it breaks your computer, you get to keep both pieces
[05:12] <fluffybunny_> brenner: yes - I changed to esound output plugin - should i cycle through the other options and see if that helps?
[05:12] <znh> I just installed ubuntu with the 'server' prefix.. now I'd like to install a graphical X server.. but how?
[05:12] <sproingie> argh
[05:12] <sproingie> why do i keep misspelling the bot's name
[05:12] <brenner> fluffybunny_: no, changing it to anything else probably won't change much
[05:12] <ioboss> where i can download gnome teme
[05:12] <brenner> fluffybunny_: er, have you tried any other media players?
[05:12] <granden> If I use apt-get install on the live cd will that work and if yes where is the program being isntalled I dont wanna write anything to my hdd?
[05:12] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: Yes. And you are Austrian, right?
[05:12] <apokryphos> sproingie: ubo<tab> :P
[05:12] <brenner> fluffybunny_: beep-media-player maybe?
[05:12] <znh> apokryphos: hiya
[05:13] <apokryphos> hi
[05:13] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: lol, no, australian :)
[05:13] <znh> apokryphos: any idea's how to get the X server running from the base installation?
[05:13] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: Whoops :D I only read ".au" iin your hostmask ^^
[05:13] <fluffybunny_> brenner: well, i've tried media player, but that doesn't work at all - let me download and install beep-media-player and get back to you
[05:13] <granden> If I use apt-get install on the live cd will that work and if yes where is the program being isntalled I dont wanna write anything to my hdd?
[05:13] <apokryphos> znh: yes; install ubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <znh> apokryphos: I've get the xserver-xorg pacakge, but vncserver cries about 'can't found found fixed
[05:13] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: yes, easy to confuse ... i think austria is at
[05:13] <znh> apokryphos: ah ok :)
[05:14] <brenner> fluffybunny_: need to change the output plugin to esound in bmp
[05:14] <fluffybunny_> brenner: ok, will do
[05:15] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: Yes, that's right. And "Brenner" is a German word, so I thought you were located around Germany ;)
[05:15] <brenner> granden: afaik, you can't install stuff with the live cd
[05:15] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: lol.  no i chose it for something else. :)
[05:15] <pradeep> hi, can anyone tell me how to make my  my mouse scroll more lines?
[05:16] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: ok. "Brenner" means burner. Just for your information ;)
[05:16] <apokryphos> pradeep: have you not tried Settings -> Mouse (or whatever). I'd imagine it would be there
[05:16] <funky> hi
[05:16] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: ah, cool
[05:16] <EasterSunshine> what do i mean in german?
[05:16] <xenomeliteforce> Easter: ^^
[05:16] <levander`> There's is any way to open a mail file on the file system with thunderbird?
[05:16] <brenner> EasterSunshine: grumpy old man
[05:16] <pradeep> apokryphos: no it isnt , unfortunately
[05:16] <funky> too much months with no X system in my breezy, last time i try to use an ubuntu unstable branch :(
[05:17] <brenner> levander`: associate it with thunderbird
[05:17] <Funraiser> to launch a sh it's "sh blabla.sh" right?
[05:17] <znh> Funraiser: or if there's a #!/bin/sh tag at the beginning of the sh file, you can also do ./yourfilename.sh
[05:17] <xenomeliteforce> is the ubuntu wiki down atm?
[05:17] <Funraiser> oh
[05:17] <chrissturm> is there a time tracking program in ubuntu?
[05:18] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: seems ok
[05:18] <levander> brenner: associate it with thunderbird in nautilus? you sure that works?
[05:18] <chrissturm> i would like to create tasks, and then just click when i work on a trask
[05:18] <chrissturm> task
[05:18] <apokryphos> xenomeliteforce: no
[05:18] <Funraiser> znh, and how do u launch a jar?
[05:18] <brenner> levander: no. :)
[05:18] <znh> Funraiser: you need java runtimes for it
[05:18] <brenner> levander: but wortha  shot
[05:18] <Funraiser> i have
[05:18] <chrissturm> and when i stop working on it. and afterwards i would like to see what tasks took how long
[05:18] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: it's loading since you told me so read the article :(
[05:18] <znh> Funraiser: they are also called 'jre', try googling at jre 1.4 linux
[05:18] <Funraiser> znh, i already have it
[05:19] <Funraiser> znh (azureus)
[05:19] <zblach> where can I get VLC for hoary?
[05:19] <Funraiser> znh, when i double click on it it doesn't open
[05:19] <znh> Funraiser: they you do /yourjavapathinstallationhere/bin/java -jar myjarfile.jar
[05:19] <Funraiser> oh
[05:19] <znh> zblach: sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:19] <pradeep> apokryphos: is it set in xorg conf?
[05:19] <znh> Funraiser: *then, and it has to be done in a terminal
[05:19] <apokryphos> pradeep: No. It's a user setting; I know how to do it from KDE...
[05:19] <zblach> znh, thanks
[05:20] <znh> zblach: very welcome
[05:20] <xenomeliteforce> has anyone get a "Trust Spacecam 120" working with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04?
[05:20] <Funraiser> znh, ok thanks are u the new pro in da place?
[05:20] <znh> xenomeliteforce: trust is untrustable.. I broke two joysticks from those guys by just playing games with it
[05:20] <zblach> znh, E: Couldn't find package vlc
[05:20] <znh> Funraiser: new.. no, pro.. depends :)
[05:21] <Funraiser> thanks
[05:21] <pradeep> apokryphos: how for gtk apps?
[05:21] <znh> zblach: then you might have to run sudo apt-setup, and chose http or ftp
[05:21] <zblach> thanks
[05:21] <xenomeliteforce> zhn: I don't play with my webcam THAT extremely ;) Just wanna watch me from the distance
[05:21] <Funraiser> u wanna watch you?
[05:21] <znh> :P
[05:21] <Funraiser> :-)
[05:22] <znh> xenomeliteforce: I think you need to get special drivers for your webcam, isn't that easy as installing a package through apt-get
[05:22] <chrissturm> xenomeliteforce, maybe a mirror would work better
[05:22] <Funraiser> lol
[05:22] <Funraiser> it works on hoary (mirrors)
[05:22] <fluffybunny_> brenner: installed beep-media-player. sounds great when I use the ALSA output plugin, sound sucks (same as XMMS) when I use esound...
[05:22] <apokryphos> pradeep: no idea, I'm afraid
[05:22] <brenner> fluffybunny_: but alsa's ok?
[05:22] <znh> chrissturm: mirrors always break when you watch in it
[05:22] <xenomeliteforce> chrissturm: If you can tell me how my chat partner can see my mirror picture above the internet, that would be ok ;)
[05:23] <fluffybunny_> brenner: alsa's great (on beep-media-player) --> all the output plugins for XMMS suck
[05:23] <znh> xenomeliteforce: there a chat application that supports webcam afaik
[05:23] <tombs> hi ppl
[05:23] <znh> xenomeliteforce: *not
[05:23] <xenomeliteforce> znh: I tried using the nw802 drivers. I was able to build them, but I can't get them running :/
[05:23] <znh> xenomeliteforce: try sudo modprobe nw802
[05:23] <xenomeliteforce> znh: AMSN or Mercury Messenger supports webcam chat
[05:23] <Ignignokt> yo hello i am new to the whole linux scene and i am having some problems with my firefox profile, can anyone lend me a hand?
[05:24] <znh> xenomeliteforce: woot :/!
[05:24] <brenner> fluffybunny_: interesing, but anyway, you've got sound now :)
[05:24] <Funraiser> xenomeliteforce, gnomemeeting supports webcams chat
[05:24] <jhelgason> lving ubuntu hoary with enlightenment!
[05:24] <fluffybunny_> brenner: pity, cause I had heard that XMMS was "the best".. oh well, thanks for the help :)
[05:24] <jhelgason> luving*
[05:24] <Unreal_IX> How do I install the latest Gnome in Ubuntu?
[05:24] <znh> jhelgason: yeah.. E is awesome dudey
[05:24] <pradeep> all, can someone help me increase my mouse scroll rate?
[05:24] <znh> Unreal_IX: afaik I know, it's sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:25] <Ignignokt> whenever i open firefox, it forces me to make a new profile, and i cannot save the profile in the firefox directory, can anyone help?
[05:25] <brenner> fluffybunny_: no probs
[05:25] <xenomeliteforce> Funraiser: in gnomeeting my webcam works (but it's really bright. Adjusting the settings doesn't have any effect). I think the problem is, that AMSN and Mercury Messenger are using V4L. GnomeMeeting only works if I choose V4L2
[05:25] <znh> Ignignokt: I think firefox doesn't have permissions to write data to your firefox directory
[05:25] <xenomeliteforce> znh: FATAL: Module nw802 not found.
[05:25] <bina> some configure script is asking me to export the path to qt as QTDIR, problem is I dont know which to choose form.  would it be /etc/qt3 /usr/lib/qt3 /usr/linclude/qt3 or /usr/share/qt3?
[05:25] <znh> xenomeliteforce: hmm, have you done make install after building?
[05:25] <xenomeliteforce> znh: and insmod <.ko file> doesn't work, too
[05:26] <xenomeliteforce> znh: no. I did "make clean", "make" and then I tried "insmod"
[05:26] <znh> xenomeliteforce: hmm make install might do the last stuff
[05:26] <brenner> pradeep: i could be wrong, but that might be done through xorg
[05:26] <xenomeliteforce> znh: There is no rule for "make install" in the Makefile
[05:26] <webtoe> bina: i think /usr/includ/qt3 if you're compiling a program
[05:26] <znh> xenomeliteforce: aw.. that's a pitty
[05:26] <bina> webtoe: sweet, thanks
[05:26] <webtoe> bina: or maybe /usr/lib/
[05:26] <uthini> guys
[05:26] <webtoe> it will complain ifits wrong
[05:27] <znh> uthini: don't forget the girls
[05:27] <bina> webtoe: thanks.
[05:27] <Funraiser> xenomeliteforce, i think that gnomemeeting and netmeeting are compatible
[05:27] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: lol. Now I know why the whiki didn't load. On my virtual desktop a security window appeared -_-
[05:27] <uthini> hi girls
[05:27] <brenner> znh: there are none
[05:27] <Funraiser> xenomeliteforce, not sure though
[05:27] <pradeep> brenner, i increase the mousewheelinertia and restarted the X to no vail
[05:27] <znh> brenner: I think your wrong then
[05:28] <xenomeliteforce> Funraiser: Yes, they should be compatible with each other. But like I said: I can't adjust the camera brightness :-/
[05:28] <brenner> znh: i guess i am then :)
[05:28] <EasterSunshine> uthini: what would make you think that
[05:28] <brenner> pradeep: yeah, not sure really, sorry ... should be easily googable though
[05:28] <Seveas> znh, if you add vanity entries to ubotu one more time you will be banned permanently.
[05:29] <znh> Seveas: hi there
[05:29] <Funraiser> vanity entries?
[05:29] <znh> Seveas: I don't want to be anonying.. but I didn't do anything last months?
[05:29] <Seveas> you're luck I made a typo in the ban last time
[05:29] <Funraiser> that's illegal now?
[05:29] <Seveas> Funraiser, has always been..
[05:29] <chrissturm> seveas: fix the bot
[05:29] <Seveas> chrissturm, why?
[05:30] <Seveas> and what?
[05:30] <chrissturm> a bot like this needs authorized users
[05:30] <znh> chrissturm: no, the problem was at me.. I was just being anonying
[05:30] <Seveas> chrissturm, no, everybody should be able to contribute
[05:30] <chrissturm> ok
[05:30] <znh> Seveas: but why do you complain me..? I didn't do anything (except that !gnome, but that was a very while ago!)
[05:31] <Seveas>  !dixi and !znh entries were there z few days ago
[05:31] <ubotu> Seveas: Not a clue
[05:31] <Seveas> with your hostmask as adder...
[05:31] <znh> Seveas: so.. it was very seriouse?
[05:31] <MiPu> Mmm... got "little" problem with Ubunto... I mean... I installed it on my laptop... Acer Aspire 5020 serie (5024 WLMi)... It works fine... Exepect it does not find my laptop keyboard or mouse...
[05:31] <TokenBad> what was the file to edit for the apt-get servers again?
[05:31] <MiPu> I need to use my USB keyboard and mouse.
[05:31] <Seveas> znh, you have been warned before about bot abuse...
[05:31] <Ng> TokenBad: /etc/apt/source.list
[05:31] <Seveas> sources.list
[05:31] <Ng> TokenBad: sorry, sources.list
[05:31] <Ng> Seveas: ;)
[05:31] <znh> Seveas: I wasn't abusing, I don't get the clue
[05:31] <MiPu> Pease msg me if you got any idea how to fix this.
[05:32] <znh> Seveas: I just want to notice people that knew me, that I changed my name - ubotu was a great way too do that..
[05:32] <Funraiser> who would have guessed that the biggest censor of a community would be the community itself...
[05:32] <Seveas> znh, thats stupid.
[05:32] <Seveas> and pointless
[05:32] <Seveas> and bot abuse
[05:32] <znh> Seveas: well sorry then if you find it asusing :/
[05:32] <Funraiser> amusing?
[05:33] <Funraiser> lol
[05:33] <znh> *abusing
[05:33] <nebris> hi
[05:34] <TokenBad> thanks Ng
[05:34] <nebris> I want to remove hotplug from startup, but I can't find any link to it's start script under /etc/rc2.d where is it located?
[05:34] <Seveas> rcS.d
[05:35] <Funraiser> me/ is showing a mirror to znh
[05:35] <Funraiser> oupps...broken!
[05:35] <znh> oh that makes me happy :+
[05:35] <nebris> Seveas, but my default init level is the second
[05:35] <nebris> doesn't matter?
[05:35] <Seveas> nebris, rcS is always used
[05:35] <nebris> ok, thank you very much
[05:35] <znh> nebris: the S is the prefix for Start
[05:35] <Seveas> not in this case...
[05:36] <znh> oh :)
[05:36] <nebris> i thought it was the folder for single user scripts
[05:36] <MiPu> Did anyone even read my message? =)
[05:36] <monkeypoo> is there any difference between distros other than these: the kernel installed, the versions and types of packages, and the philosophy of how those packages should be updated?
[05:36] <znh> ...
[05:37] <Oewyn> whenever i run ndiswrapper , i get this error code when i try to load my winxp driver something about a parsing error... Do i need to use the latest version of Ndiswraper instead of the one that came with Hoary?
[05:37] <Ng> MiPu: laptop errors tend to be quite specific, it might be worth asking on the mailing list, or maybe reporting a bug if it's not working with the builtin keyboard?
[05:37] <znh> monkeypoo: yep there's difference
[05:37] <bina> is it quite safe to add debian sources to my apt-get sources list?
[05:37] <adjacent> does the us.releases.ubuntu.com throttle downloads?
[05:37] <znh> bina: that depends on WHAT repo
[05:37] <monkeypoo> what would those differences be then?
[05:37] <Seveas> monkeypoo, the speed of security updates
[05:37] <MiPu> Ng, builtin keyboard/mouse does not work
[05:37] <Seveas> the quality of packaging
[05:37] <Seveas> the quality of integration
[05:37] <Seveas> the support & community
[05:37] <MiPu> But, they worked on Live test...
[05:37] <znh> monkeypoo: ubuntu is more faced to be a up2date distrobution, and to be newbie friendly
[05:38] <bina> znh: well, i was gna add http://apt.agnula.org/demudi.  u heard nething bad about that one?
[05:38] <Seveas> bina, no it is NOT safe
[05:38] <Seveas> use ubuntu repositories
[05:38] <bina> Seveas: damn :'(
[05:38] <MiPu> And now I have installed it to hard drive, it does not work anymore
[05:38] <bina> ok
[05:38] <znh> bina: haven't heard of it, and follow Seveas advice.. he's more known with the repo's
[05:38] <Seveas> bina, that one might be ok
[05:38] <Ng> MiPu: that's very odd. I don't have a laptop unfortuantely, so I'm not very familiar with them, and I guess nobody else here at the moment is, so I would suggest reporting it to bugzilla.ubuntu.com and/or the ubuntu-users mailing list
[05:38] <Seveas> it's not a 'debian repository' but 'a repository with .deb files'
[05:38] <MiPu> Okey.
[05:39] <Seveas> and I heard good things about this specific one
[05:39] <granden> If I isntall an app with apt-get install when I am using the live cd where will the program be isntalled?
[05:39] <granden> on the hdd or ram memory?
[05:39] <xerath> lo
[05:39] <Seveas> granden, memory
[05:39] <bina> znh, Seveas: all I want to do is install an newer version of Muse. u think thatll be ok?
[05:39] <znh> granden: depends
[05:39] <granden> znh: depends on what?
[05:39] <Seveas> bina, if you get no odd dependency warnings it should be ok
[05:39] <monkeypoo> i'm thinking of switching distros. but i'm sure it won't do any good. i have an ati card. 9600 mobility to be exact.
[05:39] <Want3d> why wont my MS intellimouse work on the Breezy install version, but works fine on 5.04?
[05:40] <znh> granden: If you configured it too install it on harddisk, it would be installed on the harddisk - don't know if this is possible anywho
[05:40] <monkeypoo> i just got slackware to work with x and the drivers but can't get 3d. (that's another issue) but now I can't get the proper resolution 1280x800 and i've heard that ATI took out the option to pick that rez.
[05:40] <granden> Seveas so its no dangerous to isntall an app with apt get cause if it will be isntalled on the HDD my sysadmin at school will prolly kill me
[05:40] <Ng> Want3d: breezy is unstable, report a bug :)
[05:40] <Seveas> Want3d, check bugzille. If the bug isn;t files -> file it
[05:40] <bina> Seveas: wicked. Thanks. you too znh
[05:40] <znh> Ng: breezy is currently a bug :)
[05:40] <Seveas> granden, correct
[05:40] <granden> good
[05:40] <survivor>  X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h <- a lib I want to compile needs this; anyone got an idea which package I need to get that file?
[05:40] <snareguy> quick question- where do i input a cvs command within Gnome?
[05:40] <znh> bina: welcome as far I am helpfull
[05:40] <Want3d> anyway i can get my mouse working correctly on it?
[05:41] <Ng> survivor: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search for filenames in packages
[05:41] <bretzel> I have to logout thankx all :-) I may be back under the diff. user tho :-) 67% download and still remaining 1 hour....I just hope that alinux.iso @ ibiblio foes have FTP::"resume" feature otherwize, my actual iso file is lost !
[05:41] <brenner> snareguy: using a terminal i would assume
[05:41] <Want3d> it wont scroll
[05:41] <brenner> snareguy: apps > sys tool > terminal
[05:41] <Ng> survivor: in this case it looks like you want libxxf86vm-dev
[05:41] <Seveas> Want3d, some Zaxis mapping thing
[05:41] <Seveas> hold on
[05:42] <Ignignokt> hello, i have encountered another problem, how do i get "owner" status on my PC, or change the permissions of folders -pm me or message with answer, ty
[05:42] <snareguy> oh... hmmm... says cvs command not recognized
[05:42] <Seveas> Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
[05:42] <Seveas> add that to xorg.conf in the mouse section
[05:42] <bretzel> OOOOOPSSSS!!!! sorry I am stupid - wrong channel!!!!!!!!
[05:42] <Ng> shame that X sucks at doing mice with lots of buttons and scrolling :/
[05:42] <EasterSunshine> Ignignokt: the command chown is used to change the owner of a file or folder, chmod changes the permissions
[05:42] <bretzel> hahahahaha
[05:42] <Oewyn> can anyone help me out with a ndiswrapper problem?
[05:42] <TokenBad> hmm
[05:42] <Ng> I have to jump through hoops to get my 10 button one working ;)
[05:42] <brenner> monkeypoo: fixing the res might be done by editing xorg.conf (or the xfree86 equiv.) (never used slack)
[05:43] <survivor> Ng: Thanks a lot! Makes sense, too.
[05:43] <Ignignokt> ty eastersunshin!
[05:43] <TokenBad> just tried to get the java stuff that says on howto page but says not there..and already updated the reps sites...and did the apt-get update
[05:43] <TokenBad> did that file change?
[05:43] <monkeypoo> i edited that but it keeps reverting to 1024x768
[05:43] <bina> Seveas, znh: hmm, ok then, I dont think ill use that.  Tried to get rid of half of KDE :)
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> Ignignokt: and if you can use sudo without problem, then you should already have like ownership over your computer
[05:43] <Seveas> bina *g*
[05:43] <snareguy> bash tells me that cvs is not a recognizable command
[05:43] <brenner> monkeypoo: what driver?
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> Ignignokt: it means you are in the admin group
[05:43] <Seveas> snareguy, then install cvs...
[05:44] <granden> what graphical editors is there in the live cd of ubuntu?
[05:44] <nate_> Does anyone know how to set the output directory in Grip?
[05:44] <brenner> gedit probably
[05:44] <chrismy> could anyone help me with http://imagebin.org/3269
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> granden: i'll get gedit
[05:44] <granden> ok
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> granden: and xemacs should be in the repos, not really a big install
[05:44] <monkeypoo> i use the latest 8.16.20 ati driver with xorg.
[05:45] <EasterSunshine> s/get/bet
[05:45] <TokenBad> did the file sun-j2re1.5 change?
[05:46] <rod> how to repair a rar archive in ubuntu breezy?
[05:46] <brenner> monkeypoo: well, can't really help 'cos you're using slackware, but what i think we have the fglrx drivers available which are different from official ati, iirc
[05:46] <apokryphos> TokenBad: it's no longer in hoary-extras
[05:46] <landotter> granden, if you want lighter than the default gedit, grab mousepad or leafpad via synaptic. :)
[05:46] <apokryphos> rod: repair?
[05:46] <TokenBad> so how install it apokryphos?
[05:46] <chrismy> how do i fix my packages?
[05:47] <apokryphos> !tell TokenBad about java
[05:47] <rod> apokryphos, i get some crc errors... In the windows version of rar i can repair it
[05:47] <rod> not sure how to repair it in ubuntu
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> rod: winrar had a archive repairing feature, i guess you could run that over wine if its not too much hassle, i don't konw if there are any pure linux archivers that can repair rars
[05:47] <apokryphos> check the man page for rar; if it's not possible, then I don't know
[05:47] <monkeypoo> i read a post somewhere saying someone updated to the new drivers and they lost the 1280x800 res.
[05:47] <snareguy> how do i get these blasted files off of the desktop? says i don't have permission, but I thouht there was no root account Ubuntu
[05:47] <apokryphos> snareguy: there isn't, but there is still root permissions, and files owned by root
[05:48] <rod> EasilyOdd, i have unrar-nonfree, guess that is the underlying command line which is also used in the windows version?
[05:48] <Seveas> snareguy, sudo chown 1000:1000 ~/Desktop
[05:48] <Seveas> snareguy, sudo chown -R 1000:1000 ~/Desktop
[05:48] <znh> hmm does the package 'smbfs' not exist anymore?
[05:48] <nate_> Has anybody else used Grip and knows how to set where the files are ripped to?
[05:48] <apokryphos> !info smbfs
[05:48] <ubotu> smbfs: (mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x)), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 340 kB, Installed size: 816 kB
[05:48] <Seveas> !info smbfs breezy
[05:48] <ubotu> smbfs: (mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x)), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 346 kB, Installed size: 820 kB
[05:48] <Seveas> there
[05:48] <znh> apokryphos: it says it's refered to some other package
[05:49] <apokryphos> znh: referred but doesn't exist?
[05:49] <znh> apokryphos: better said: "has no installation candidate"
[05:49] <Want3d> anyone know if gnome 2.12 will be added to Breezy (stable version of it)
[05:49] <rod> yes it will Want3d
[05:49] <apokryphos> znh: then apparently -- yes
[05:50] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> There was a problem installing the selected software. One or more packages failed to install. This may be due to bugs in the packages, or you may be out of diskspace or experiencing some other problem. <-- takes me to aptitude (well, tries, but because my ISP requires a heartbeat message to it's modems i can't connect :()
[05:50] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> what can i do to fix this?
[05:50] <jorgp2> Want3d: rc is in it now
[05:50] <Want3d> IMWheel going back into the respository?
[05:50] <Want3d> repsotiory*
[05:50] <pancho> hola
[05:50] <snareguy> Seveas I have no idea what that was, but thanks
[05:50] <snareguy> it worked
[05:51] <Seveas> ScOrPiO-MoFF, check your cd, installing requires no internet connection...
[05:51] <Vixus> i know this is horrendously off-topic for the channel, but how do I put colour in my console apps (ones I've programmed)?
[05:51] <Seveas> snareguy, you created the things on your desktop as root
[05:51] <eolo> which is the deb brepository for j2re1.5??
[05:51] <Seveas> that command made you the owner of it again
[05:51] <Seveas> eolo, no repsoitory but you can grab one of my server
[05:51] <Ignignokt> yes i just type chmod -rwxrwxrwx /etc/mozilla-firefox to change my firefox folder permissions, but instead of giving me permissions, it took all permissions away
[05:51] <Ignignokt> any help?
[05:51] <Seveas> Do /whois seveas to find the address :)
[05:52] <eolo> i've amd64 bit on hoary
[05:52] <Seveas> Ignignokt, rofl
[05:52] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> Seveas, I install, and at the end of the install I get an error saying that ^^... I sware my CD is ok, too
[05:52] <Seveas> -rwx does just that
[05:52] <Seveas> what do you want the permissions to be?
[05:52] <Ignignokt> i dont even know any more, i am n00b
[05:53] <Jowi> Ignignokt: - removes permissions. + adds them.
[05:53] <Seveas> then why did you want to change these permissions..?
[05:53] <derFlo> did anyone get festival working?
[05:53] <snareguy> are there any browser plugins that would emulate windows media 9?
[05:53] <Seveas> try: chmod 755 /etc/mozilla-firefox
[05:53] <Seveas> that is the normal set of permissions
[05:53] <Ignignokt> ty
[05:53] <eolo> Seveas you mean irc.freenode.net
[05:54] <Seveas> snareguy, mplayer
[05:54] <EasterSunshine> how would i force locate command to update the cache?
[05:54] <Seveas> eolo, no ;)
[05:54] <Seveas> hint: I'm connecting from it
[05:54] <Want3d> EasterSunshine, use updatedb
[05:54] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> i am so confused, how can i install this properly??
[05:54] <Ng> snareguy: firefox has a nice extension called MediaPlayerConnectivity that lets you use whatever media player you like to play embedded media (assuming the media player in question can handle it)
[05:54] <Want3d> ;p
[05:54] <sobersabre> hi
[05:54] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> i have tired installing Ubuntu twice now, same error
[05:54] <EasterSunshine> Want3d: sudo updatedb seems to work better
[05:54] <sobersabre> does anybody here have a problem to log into skype ?
[05:54] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> and i have 35.9GB free HDD space
[05:55] <EasterSunshine> Want3d: as it doesn't deny permission :)
[05:55] <Seveas> ScOrPiO-MoFF, I really think your cd is bad then..
[05:55] <Ng> a failing installation usually offers to test the CD doesn't it?
[05:55] <sobersabre> ScOrPiO-MoFF, which error again ?
[05:55] <Ng> the last one I did that failed offered at least
[05:55] <Seveas> eolo, if you cant find it: http://seveas.demon.nl
[05:55] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> Ubuntu base system configuration failure
[05:56] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> "One or more packages failed to install."
[05:56] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> etc
[05:57] <Want3d> EasterSunshine, i knew u were smart enough to figure it out
[05:57] <Vixus> Great, it's asking me to install fakeroot of the CD-Rom but it won't detect the CD.
[05:57] <Seveas> Vixus, then disable installing from cd :)
[05:57] <EasterSunshine> Want3d: not until i tryied it once and got a million errors =/
[05:57] <eolo> i have an amd64 still ok, Seveas?
[05:57] <Want3d> ha
[05:57] <Vixus> Seveas: How? :)
[05:57] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> So I should just burn to another CD?
[05:58] <Seveas> Vixus, remove the line with the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <yuacht> how can i record both what i say and what i hear?
[05:58] <Seveas> ScOrPiO-MoFF, first check the md5sum of the iso
[05:58] <EasterSunshine> should i add updatedb to crontab or does does my system automatically update the db every now and then?
[05:58] <Seveas> and if it's correct, burn on low speed
[05:58] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, it's run daily
[05:58] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> kk
[05:58] <Seveas> (from crontab :))
[05:58] <whyameye> is there a good program to print CD labels using ubuntu?
[05:58] <Vixus> Seveas: Oh, thanks
[06:00] <ekimus> anyone could point me to the places to get a complete english system? i had german locales rebuild them with dpkg-reconfigure LC_ALL and LANG are set to C but still some manpages show up in german :(
[06:01] <Seveas> ekimus, /etc/environment
[06:01] <Vixus> Seveas: Just did it with Synaptic.
[06:01] <Seveas> and you should restart X or maybe reboot
[06:03] <nerdy2> ekimus: man mandb ?
[06:03] <pruttelpot> anybody knows something about the XMMS stream's patch since seeking doesn't work in astream?
[06:04] <snareguy> how would i install a tar.bz2 file
[06:04] <snareguy> ?
[06:05] <snareguy> thanks for putting up with me :)
[06:05] <ekimus> hmm i'll just try to remove all locales....
[06:05] <snareguy> (tring to install mplayer)
[06:05] <Vixus> snareguy: how do you install?
[06:05] <Vixus> snareguy: Double click it!
[06:05] <Dragon> isn't there an instruction in tar.bz2 file?
[06:06] <Seveas> snareguy, install mplayer from the repositories
[06:06] <Seveas> NOT from a tar.bz2 file
[06:06] <snareguy> the apt command line that i had would not work
[06:06] <pruttelpot> apt-get install mplayer
[06:07] <pruttelpot> (sudo infront of it)
[06:07] <Seveas> snareguy, then enable multiverse
[06:07] <chrissturm> how can i get a list of packages installed on my system?
[06:07] <Seveas> !repos
[06:07] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:07] <Seveas> chrissturm, dpkg -l
[06:07] <Seveas> or dpkg --get-selections
[06:07] <chrissturm> cool
[06:07] <chrissturm> thx
[06:07] <pruttelpot> or check ubuntuguide for soms more reps and a guide howto
[06:08] <chrissturm> is there a time logging application for gnome?
[06:08] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell pruttelpot about ubuntuguide
[06:08] <Seveas> blegh ubuntuguide repos...
[06:08] <Seveas> evil
[06:09] <apokryphos> hasn't ubuntuguide been down for quite some time, anyway?
[06:09] <pruttelpot> nop
[06:09] <Seveas> chrissturm, time logging app? You mean a clock?
[06:09] <pruttelpot> they just tell you how to ad repos
[06:09] <apokryphos> pruttelpot: they recommend marillat, don't they?
[06:09] <Seveas> in a bad way and with bad repos...
[06:09] <chrissturm> Seveas, a clock with a start and an end button
[06:09] <Seveas> ah, a stopwatch :)
[06:10] <chrissturm> seveas: what i need is a list of tasks, and a start and stop button besides
[06:10] <chrissturm> seveas: for clients billing
[06:10] <pruttelpot> no marillat
[06:10] <chrissturm> and it should write into a db
[06:10] <Seveas> aight
[06:10] <Vixus> is there a shortcut key to go up one directory level??
[06:10] <Seveas> cd ..
[06:11] <Vixus> no, in Gnome.
[06:11] <EasterSunshine> wow cd .. is a shortcut?
[06:11] <zone17> Hi, I am having some problems making my monitor use 80Hz frequence. I am using xorg.conf and the resolution is 1600x1200, it goes at 70Hz, but I know it can be 80, how do I force it to do 80Hz?
[06:11] <Seveas> [alt] [up arrow]
[06:11] <pruttelpot> cd .. = up a level, cd ~ = homedir
[06:11] <chrissturm> vixus: backspace
[06:11] <Vixus> Seveas: thanks. opens in a new dir though
[06:11] <medamaybe> can anyone tell me why I have sound in the login screen in ubuntu, but not in the rest of gnome?
[06:11] <Vixus> chrissturm: thanks
[06:11] <pruttelpot> turn on the volume?
[06:12] <chrissturm> seveas: is there a list of nautilus shortcuts somewhere?
[06:12] <xenomeliteforce> gnihihi. Got two audio players to play the same song without no delay ^^
[06:12] <medamaybe> I can't turn on the volume...the volume control thing is...lost