[16:26] <tgm4883> niklas: Yea, I did to. But apparently it needs repeating
[16:26] <Cyber_Akuma> niklas, Is this in the repos or would i have to install it myself?
[16:26] <tgm4883> AndroUser: yes, gparted is an installed application
[16:26] <tgm4883> AndroUser: so you would fire up the live session then start it
[16:27] <AndroUser> Ok let see.
[16:27] <Cyber_Akuma> also
[16:27] <Cyber_Akuma> what version of windows are you installing?
[16:27] <Cyber_Akuma> and do you have a drive over 2tb in the system?
[16:27] <niklas> Cyber_Akuma: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fbsuite/
[16:28] <Cyber_Akuma> I have no idea how to install something from a tar file in linux :(
[16:28] <Fuchs> Cyber_Akuma: usually you don't
[16:29] <AndroUser> Im in Gparted. Is sdb the lable for the drive with the os on?
[16:29] <Cyber_Akuma> i know
[16:29] <Fuchs> Cyber_Akuma: see if there is a package available instead. Otherwise: there is a README or INSTALL along, usually you compile it, with make or cmake doing most of the ugly things for you, but that will bypass your package management, which is bad
[16:29] <Cyber_Akuma> AndroUser, maybe you should post a screenshot of gparted, systems can be different
[16:29] <tgm4883> AndroUser: IDK, you'd have to figure that out
[16:29] <tgm4883> AndroUser: Look at the size, which one is the size of your HDD
[16:29] <niklas> AndroUser you must find out how big the usb drive is and then format it
[16:30] <Cyber_Akuma> Fuchs, its the sourceforge link niklas posted
[16:30] <AndroUser> Yeah well I'm quite certain Im in the right drive. What do I do from here
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> AndroUser  linux uses /dev/sda , /dev/sdb etc, like windows uses C: D: etc
[16:30] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: you aren't really instlaling it. You extract it and just run the executabl
[16:30] <niklas> Cyber_Akuma: in the archive is a install.sh file
[16:30] <niklas> Just run sudo ./install.sh
[16:30] <tgm4883> or maybe you do
[16:30] <Cyber_Akuma> your drive can have multiple partitons AndroUser
[16:30] <tgm4883> stupid instructions
[16:30] <niklas> from the folder, you must navigate to the folder in the terminal
[16:30] <Cyber_Akuma> ok
[16:30] <tgm4883> AndroUser: click on the partitions and then click delete
[16:31] <niklas> but first extract it ;)
[16:31] <tgm4883> AndroUser: http://askubuntu.com/questions/342857/how-to-wipe-format-entire-disk-using-gparted
[16:32] <Cyber_Akuma> I really think it would be easier to use the windows installer to do it...
[16:32] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: possibly
[16:32] <AndroUser> Cyber_Akuma I dont understand how I would be able to do that?
[16:32] <tgm4883> AndroUser: you're already in gparted, just do it there
[16:33] <Samy__> hey i am building a project in Ubuntu using cmake but getting errors https://paste.kde.org/plm2qnm4q though qt is installed in /home/user
[16:33] <AndroUser> tgm4883 there are 3 partitions on that drive. Only one is available for deleting.
[16:33] <Cyber_Akuma> Ugh, 24 hours, backup isn't even 50% done.... and im not even sure if it will finish or run out of space
[16:33] <nacc> Samy__: are you sure it's a -D flag and not an environment variable?
[16:34] <tgm4883> AndroUser: screenshot?
[16:34] <Cyber_Akuma> AndroUser, can youps ascenso?
[16:34] <Cyber_Akuma> ...
[16:34] <Cyber_Akuma> i hate wirless keybords
[16:34] <niklas> AndroUser please post a screenshot
[16:35] <Cyber_Akuma> yeah, what they said
[16:35] <Samy__> nacc: my CMakeCache.txt http://sprunge.us/ICeM
[16:35] <AndroUser> tgm4883 http://imgur.com/iuG4Jn1
[16:36] <niklas> is that your flash drive?
[16:36] <AndroUser> That is my ssd drive which I tend to install windows on
[16:36] <tgm4883> AndroUser: is 5 mounted? You'll have to delete that one first
[16:36] <Cyber_Akuma> sdb2 looks like it
[16:36] <Samy__> naac: is it an environment variable?
[16:36] <nacc> Samy__: um, so your cache file says "CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH:UNINITIALIZED=/home/divyam/Qt5.6.0/5.6/gcc_64" but you're passing "CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/home/user/Qt5.6.0/5.6/gcc_64/lib/cmake/" ?
[16:37] <nacc> Samy__: for one thing, a PREFIX_PATH generally would not go down that far into the directory structure
[16:37] <nacc> Samy__: and for another do you actually have a "user" user?
[16:37] <Cyber_Akuma> can you delete an exended partiton without deleting the logical partitions in it first?
[16:37] <Samy__> nacc: i have tried multiple ranging from /gcc_64 to gcc_64/lib to the above provided nothing worked
[16:37] <AndroUser> tgm4883 I cant delete that one. Only move and resize
[16:37] <Samy__> nacc: no i replaced user with my user name
[16:38] <tgm4883> AndroUser: Can you pastebin the output of the "mount" command in a terminal
[16:38] <niklas> AndroUser can you give tgm4883 access to your desktop with teamviewer
[16:38] <tgm4883> whoa
[16:38] <niklas> Just an idea
[16:38] <tgm4883> let's not volunteer other people for work ;)
[16:38] <Samy__> nacc: what can be done ?
[16:38] <niklas> ok :)
[16:38] <tgm4883> otherwise
[16:39] <Cyber_Akuma> ... maybe we should try the windows one at this rate XD
[16:39]  * tgm4883 assigns a bunch of launchpad bugs to niklas
[16:39] <niklas> what did you do to me tgm4883
[16:39]  * Cyber_Akuma assigns AndroUser to the Half Life 3 team
[16:39] <Cyber_Akuma> XD
[16:39] <niklas> lol
[16:39] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: that's a possibility, but unsupported in this channel. You'd need to support that somewhere else (like PM)
[16:40] <AndroUser> tgm4883 paste.ubuntu.com/16868612
[16:40] <nacc> Samy__: does a `find /home/user/Qt5.6.0/5.6/gcc_64 -name Qt5Config.cmake -o -name qt5-config.cmake` produce any output?
[16:40] <Cyber_Akuma> what was that other one? lsblk or something like that?
[16:41] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: lsblk will show the block id of the device
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma  ls means list, blk means block device
[16:41] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: wait, I'm thinking of blkid
[16:42] <Cyber_Akuma> i was told to run a command the ither day that showed a much more human readable output of mounted drives
[16:42] <Samy__> nacc: /home/user/Qt5.6.0/5.6/gcc_64/lib/cmake/Qt5/Qt5Config.cmake
[16:42] <Cyber_Akuma> when mount showed too much junk information
[16:42] <nacc> Samy__: ack, so it should have found it
[16:42] <c-pin> is there a guide on compiling ubuntu from source
[16:42] <Cyber_Akuma> it was lssomething....
[16:43] <OerHeks> !build
[16:43] <tgm4883> AndroUser: You need to lvremove first http://askubuntu.com/a/218732
[16:43] <AndroUser> tgm4883 anything useful in that paste?
[16:43] <c-pin> thx fam
[16:43] <tgm4883> AndroUser: yes, lots. See that link
[16:43] <nacc> Samy__: sorry, i was just thinking of obvious fixes, i don't know anything about cmake itself. Maybe someone else can help, or you can ask in a cmake channe (search with !alis)
[16:44] <Samy__> whats !alis
[16:44] <AndroUser> tgm4883 I see. Well Gparted gives me tje option to Deactivate that partition. Will that work as the command suggested in the link?
[16:44] <c-pin> OerHeks, this is for packages
[16:44] <c-pin> not for the uh... os
[16:44] <tgm4883> AndroUser: IDK, try it maybe?
[16:44] <nacc> !alis | Samy__
[16:44] <Mrokii> Hello. Does somebody know a writing-app for (K)Ubuntu that saves instantly, I mean, every keystroke, so that it isn't necessary to save manually?
[16:45] <OerHeks> c-pin, it applies to all the packages in ubuntu
[16:45] <c-pin> cool OerHeks
[16:45] <nacc> c-pin: what do you mean by os? do you mean the kernel?
[16:45] <AndroUser> tgm4883 did. Nothing special happened. Should I have noticed something? Should it dissappear?
[16:45] <c-pin> this is to make a uh... vanillla ubuntu package for the C2 cause the one hard kernel provided runs bad
[16:45] <AndroUser> Oh wait. I can delete it now
[16:45] <Samy__> nacc: but i suppose it should have worked :/
[16:45] <tgm4883> AndroUser: I would think the lock would disappear, but try deleting it again
[16:45] <c-pin> i guess thats what i mean
[16:46] <AndroUser> Yeah I can delete sdb5 now.
[16:46] <AndroUser> So delete sdb5 and then sdb1?
[16:46] <tgm4883> AndroUser: yes...
[16:47] <AndroUser> tgm4883 sdb2 too then? It became available for deleting now
[16:47] <tgm4883> AndroUser: What do you think you should do next?
[16:48] <AndroUser> tgm4883 frankly I have no idea.  Who cares if you screw it up?
[16:49] <niklas> It's not our fault
[16:49] <AndroUser> tgm4883 well it's all done now. So now try to install win7 again?
[16:49] <tgm4883> AndroUser: I mean, your requested end result is "no data on the drive", it's not like you could hit the wrong button and be like "Whoops, I accidently got the entire works of shakespear"
[16:49] <tgm4883> AndroUser: yes
[16:52] <niklas> now all of are quiet
[16:55] <OerHeks> niklas, that happens often after "now try to install win7 again"
[16:55] <niklas> yeah
[16:55] <AndroUser> tgm4883 well now I have an Unallocated Disk showing. Though it's not working to install on it.
[16:56] <tgm4883> AndroUser: errors?
[16:56] <Randomness> do i really need to tick third party software (mp3) when installing ubuntu or get them via sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras? will i really have a bad time without it? youtube uses html5 now. i got no mp3, and if i want to rip some cd's i have, i could just use an open format.
[16:56] <tgm4883> I mean, now we're pretty far OT
[16:57] <tgm4883> Randomness: you can install it later if you find out you really need it
[16:57] <niklas> Randomness you don't have to tick this box in the installation window
[16:57] <AndroUser> tgm4883 "Setup was unable to create a new system partition or locate an existing system partition"
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> Randomness  don't install them and if you can do everything you want, you have your answer
[16:57] <tgm4883> AndroUser: that sounds like a question for ##windows
[16:57] <niklas> yup
[16:58] <AndroUser> Yepp it is. Thanks for your help tgm4883
[16:59] <Randomness> tgm4883, niklas, MonkeyDust : yeah, i figured, but what are the chances i will have to get them? guess this is just really a question which i have to answer myself, depending on my needs.
[16:59] <Randomness> any of you not having it installed?
[17:00] <niklas> I'm having it installed, cuz I need to play music, which is in a mp3 format
[17:01] <tgm4883> Randomness: I'm not sure why we're doing this exercise. You're the only one that can determine if you need it or not, and it's trivial to install it later. This conversation seems pointless to me, and it's support
[17:01] <tgm4883> isn't support*
[17:01] <A3308-Guest> is or isnt?
[17:02] <citrix> Hi all ...
[17:02] <Randomness> tgm4883: yeah, you're right. ill try without and install if required. thanks.
[17:02] <citrix> my hardrive had gone bad.. how much space do ubuntu takes .. can i make it bootable in pendrive...
[17:03] <nexii> I was wondering how I can access a samba shared folder from thunar, since when I try to access a folder, I get prompted to enter a username, domain, and password.  The server doesn't have a domain so I leave it blank but the "connect" button is greyed out unless I enter something in there.
[17:03] <niklas> did you enter a username and password
[17:04] <niklas> Try with WORKGROUP in Caps as a domain
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> citrix  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[17:05] <nexii> niklas: I tried WORKGROUP as well
[17:05] <niklas> okay
[17:05] <jatt> nexii: on the windows machine type:
[17:05] <jatt> echo %userdomain%
[17:05] <jatt> to get the domain.
[17:06] <citrix>  MonkeyDust actually i had removed my hdd .. and i only have a 8GB pendrive
[17:07] <Srp2416> Hi all
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> citrix  and a dvd?
[17:07] <syeekick> i've added rules to my iptables in ubuntu 16.04 and i dont know how to restart the iptables. "service iptables save && service iptables restart
[17:07] <syeekick> " i tried this but to no avail. Any ideas?
[17:07] <citrix> Yes i have a dvd ubuntu 15.10
[17:08] <citrix> MonkeyDust, is that sufficient
[17:08] <niklas> It's slower than a pendrive
[17:08] <citrix> MonkeyDust, i tried but it said that space is full..
[17:09] <citrix> MonkeyDust, I mean i tried to install in sdb from dvd but it said space full .. after some time
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> citrix  on the page i suggested, read 'Method 1', i guess it's what you can do ... never it myself, tho
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> never tried it*
[17:11] <nexii> jatt: the server's a linux machine as is the client that I'm trying to access files from.  My windows clients can access the files just fine, though.
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> citrix  if that's not it, i'm out of iedeas
[17:13] <A3308-Guest> ?
[17:14] <ron__> hello, I had installed ubuntu 16.04 but the hibernate don't work :x
[17:15] <ouroumov> Hello ron__. Have you run a full system update since you've completed the installation?
[17:15] <ron__> how I can find the problem ?
[17:16] <ron__> ouroumov, yes
[17:16] <dbz2k> is there a way to disable software updater notifications?
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> dbz2k  yes, in the system settings, software & updates
[17:17] <ouroumov> ron__, if you're ok with it you can try and install the package linux-firmware-nonfree and see if that helps
[17:17] <ron__> ok I try
[17:18] <ouroumov> ron__, as well as the linux-firmware package
[17:18] <brainwash> ron__: hibernate is disabled by default
[17:18] <dbz2k> MonkeyDust, do I just disable auto checking for update right?
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> dbz2k  'Notify me...', disable that
[17:19] <dbz2k> ok
[17:19] <phiphler> TF2 is really strange for me on 16.04 , I can launch and play the game no problems but sometimes I get freezelag which seems to affect the entire system as I can't alt-tab out. FOSS AMD drivers
[17:19] <Samy__> how to get GL devel stuff in ubuntu
[17:19] <phiphler> freezes usually last for 10-20 seconds
[17:20] <niklas> nexii have you tried smbclient
[17:20] <robotdevil1> kcfd
[17:20] <niklas> Or a other file manager
[17:24] <nexii> niklas: I have not. Only thunar so far
[17:24] <nexii> niklas: I'll try those
[17:25] <niklas> try pcmanfm
[17:25] <niklas> It works fine
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> nexii  try 'gigolo', to easily connect ... it's not a file manager, tho
[17:27] <sdexter> I'm running 14.04 and want to block access TO an ip on the machine from anywhere to port 53.  'ufw deny to <IP> port' doesn't seem to to do it
[17:27] <Samy__> hey how can i get mesa-devel package in ubuntu
[17:27] <Samy__> apt-get shows no package as such
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> !find mesa-devel
[17:28] <baizon> Samy__: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[17:28] <nacc> Samy__: you use `apt-cache search` or `apt search` <pgkname> and grep
[17:29] <nacc> Samy__: or in your case, not <pkgname> but 'mesa' (package substring)
[17:29] <Samy__> its a lot of stuff
[17:29] <ioria> !info libglu1-mesa-dev
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> !find mesa-dev | Samy__
[17:30] <Samy__> i have got this error that i want to solve https://paste.kde.org/pdjp7u8zi
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> ioria  was faster
[17:30] <Randomness> "Install third-party software for graphics and Wi-Fi hardware, Flash, MP3 and other media" is an option you get when installing Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. if i have wi-fi during install and don't tick this box is it safe to assume that the linux kernel within Ubuntu 16.04 LTS supports wi-fi with some open source code, and that there will be wi-fi once i am done installing? also, why would i want the propriatary graphic drivers if i don't
[17:30] <ioria> ^_^
[17:31] <ioria> !!info libgl1-mesa-dev
[17:31] <ioria> !info libgl1-mesa-dev
[17:31] <nacc> Samy__: ... `apt-file search <filename>`
[17:31] <Samy__> MonkeyDust: should i install all of them?
[17:31] <deadmund> sdexter: I think that ufw deny to <IP> port refers to outgoing traffic on the target machine.  Not incoming.  I think you want sudo ufw block from any port 53
[17:31] <deadmund> sdexter: I think?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> Samy__  if you are a developer, you should know the answer to that question, i reckon
[17:31] <ron__> ouroumov,  linux-firmware-nonfree is avaible in 16.04 ?
[17:31] <k1l_> Randomness: that depends heavily on the used hardware
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> Samy__  i mean, if you know what you are doing
[17:32] <Samy__> MonkeyDust: i am a beginner and i just switched to ubuntu in my previous distributions i didnt face these problems
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Samy__
[17:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, if you don't have wireless by default,  get additioal drivers open fro the search and you may have a driver waiting for install there, but the installer optoin isn't really for that but more so for mp3 support and things like that
[17:32] <ron__> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?lang=fr&keywords=linux-firmware-nonfree&searchon=names not 16.04 :x
[17:33] <nacc> Samy__: /usr/include/libdrm is from libdrm-dev
[17:33] <Samy__> right now i just want to solve this error https://paste.kde.org/pdjp7u8zi
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> Samy__  don't try to develop if you're a beginner, one step at a time
[17:33] <nacc> Samy__: but i see no GL/gl.h file
[17:33] <ouroumov> ron__, yes
[17:33] <Randomness> k1l_: but if i got wifi before installing wifi prop. driver, it works. don't see why it would offer prop. driver then. perhaps the prop. driver works better than the open source solution?
[17:34] <ouroumov> ron__, in a terminal: sudo apt install linux-firmware linux-firmware-nonfree
[17:34] <k1l_> Randomness: no.
[17:34] <Samy__> whats the problem with GL/gl.h file
[17:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, if you put the prop driver into the live session, no it won't just go into the install as well
[17:34] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: alright, well, i dont need mp3.
[17:34] <Zonca_95> ciao a tutti
[17:35] <Zonca_95> list!
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> Samy__  when/where do you encounter that error
[17:35] <ioria> Samy__, mesa-common-dev
[17:35] <ron__> ouroumov,   "linux- firmware- nonfree" not found
[17:35] <Samy__> on running cmake
[17:35] <k1l_> Randomness: the live system has some prop. drivers enabled for a better user experience. but to isntall that drivers you need to check that on install.
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> Samy__  and why are you running cmake
[17:36] <ouroumov> ron__, there is no spaces in the name of the package
[17:36] <Billyzekid> hello, I would like to install new flashplayer version
[17:36] <k1l_> Randomness: so if you wifi chip only works with prop. drivers it works on live usb but not on the install if you didnt want the prop drivers to be installed.
[17:36] <Billyzekid> what do I do with the tar.zp
[17:36] <Samy__> thanks ioria
[17:36] <ioria> Samy__,  np
[17:36] <k1l_> Billyzekid: you dont install it that way.
[17:36] <ron__> ouroumov, It is copy/paste   but ""linux-firmware-nonfree" not found
[17:37] <nacc> ron__: do you have multiverse enabled?
[17:37] <Billyzekid> k1l_: ok
[17:37] <k1l_> Randomness: that means: you will need to get the prop. driver for the wifi afterwards over ethernet or other ways.
[17:37] <ron__> nacc, deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial universe   is enable
[17:37] <nacc> ron__: universe != multiverse
[17:37] <Randomness> k1l_: oh, alright, i was under the impression that everything on the ubuntu image was open software/non prop., and if the option was ticked it would get prop. drivers, flasgh, codecs from some place on the net. thanks for clarifying.
[17:38] <nacc> !multiverse | ron__
[17:38] <ouroumov> Oh right. ron__ as nacc said you have to enable multiverse in your software sources
[17:38] <Danielh90> How do I switch between screens?
[17:38] <Danielh90> threw putty?
[17:38] <nacc> ron__: and then run `apt update` to refresh, of course
[17:38] <k1l_> Billyzekid: there are 2 important things to know about flash: 1. adobe doesnt support linux like windows. 2. some webiste fake the wrong version warning to make you install viruses.
[17:38] <ron__> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial multiverse  was enabled
[17:39] <jaipalpc> hi
[17:39] <nacc> ron__: ouroumov: oh, you're looking fro linux-firmware-nonfree in 16.04? not pulibshed anymore
[17:39] <snow_richard> libGL error: unable to load driver: r600_dri.so
[17:39] <Randomness> k1l_: i don't have any spare ethernet cable here, so i guess ill just tick the option. :/ it's not too bad, it's just if i could survive without it i wouldn't tick it. i guess i could install without ticking it first and if i had no wifi, just reinstall and have the option ticked. i don't want flash though, so i guess ill have to manually remove that once installed. why is it still included in this option.
[17:40] <snow_richard> this is in android studio
[17:40] <Billyzekid> I I would like installing flashplayer, I don't see how to
[17:40] <ouroumov> nacc, seriously? But Ubuntu MATE has a one-click install of all that stuff in the LTS :o
[17:40] <nacc> ouroumov: ron__: LP: #1513589
[17:40] <ron__> nac yes i dont found
[17:41] <nacc> ouroumov: in 16.04?
[17:41] <ron__> it is the explication :D
[17:41] <ouroumov> nacc, yes
[17:41] <k1l_> Billyzekid: install flashplugin-installer
[17:41] <nacc> ouroumov: i'm just citing what's in the database and the publishing history
[17:41] <nacc> ron__: sounds like mate must be pacakging it separately somehow, then
[17:41] <Danielh90> How do I use screen ? and switch between them
[17:41] <snow_richard> i'm running ubuntu mate 16.04 and have this libgl error with radeon integraged graphics
[17:42] <Billyzekid> k1l_: ok thnx
[17:42] <nacc> ouroumov: ron__: you could easily setup a ppa, copy the wily package there and use it
[17:42] <nacc> ouroumov: ron__: but it's no longer provided in ubuntu proper, afaict
[17:43] <ron__> arf
[17:43] <k1l_> Billyzekid: dont use that .tar file. the package i mentioned should give you a working flashplugin
[17:43] <ron__> nacc, if I recompile the kernel ?
[17:44] <nacc> ron__: not sure, but that's not necessarily supported anyways, right -- you've gone outside the scope of a 'distribution', and so you might have to move those files around so they're seen, etc. I really don't know
[17:44] <Billyzekid> k1l_: but I dont see, I am lead directly through here from my browser
[17:46] <Billyzekid> k1l_: sudo update and sudo upgrade didn't work the new flashplayer version
[17:46] <k1l_> Billyzekid: that package works. did you install it? what website is telling you got a wrong version?
[17:46] <k1l_> did you restart the browser?
[17:47] <Billyzekid> can I test
[17:47] <ron__> nacc, I'll wait for the correction, thank you also for the quick answer :)
[17:49] <home> hey guys
[17:49] <home> I am on ubuntu server 15.04
[17:49] <home> how do I upgrade to 16.04?
[17:49] <nacc> !eolupgrade | home
[17:50] <OerHeks> 15.04 - 15.10 - 16.04 .. i would reinstall
[17:50] <nacc> home: but also what OerHeks said --^
[17:50] <home> so how do  Upgrade
[17:50] <home> it's hard to reinstall since I am not local
[17:50] <OerHeks> see the eolupgrade url
[17:50] <nacc> home: read the FAQ ubottu sent you a moment ago
[17:50] <home> it's far away from me
[17:51] <OerHeks> oh, remote upgrade.. good luck man
[17:51] <home> kkay
[17:52] <k1l_> home: "do-release-upgrade" should offer you the upgrade to 15.10. from there you need to upgrade again to 16.04
[17:53] <home> it doesnt work
[17:53] <home> gives error
[17:53] <k1l_> what error? (use paste.ubuntu.com for more lines)
[17:53] <OerHeks> home is this a rental VPN?
[17:59] <fishhead2567> pardon me, does anyone have experience with fglrx on kernel 4.4, or alternatively using two thunderbolt monitors with the xorg drivers for an ATI card? I seem to get black screen when I use the fglrx driver, and despite efforts cant seem to get the xorg driver to recognize two monitors
[18:00] <syeekick> i've added rules to my iptables in ubuntu 16.04 and i dont know how to restart the iptables. "service iptables save && service iptables restart
[18:00] <syeekick> " i tried this but to no avail. Any ideas?
[18:00] <syeekick> fishhead2567, have you tried the propiertary drivers?
[18:00] <nacc> syeekick: is 'save' a real parameter to the iptables service file?
[18:01] <syeekick> nacc i have no idea
[18:01] <nacc> syeekick: why are you running it then?
[18:01] <syeekick> oh lol
[18:01] <nacc> syeekick: and if it's not, that will error and wont' run restart
[18:01] <syeekick> because them firewall rules need to be set
[18:01] <matan> hello
[18:01] <syeekick> hmm
[18:01] <nacc> syeekick: what did you mean by you "added rules to my iptables"
[18:03] <syeekick> are you going to ask next which ports i tried to open :P
[18:03] <syeekick> i'm scared
[18:03] <matan> my question: i tryed to run rtv with the command "sudo python3 rtv" i got an error saying that the module '' is missing. any help?
[18:03] <nacc> syeekick: no, i'm asking what you meant ... did you run the `iptables` command with parameters?
[18:04] <syeekick> yeah
[18:04] <nacc> syeekick: why would you need to restart the service then?
[18:04] <nacc> syeekick: in any case, maybe read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[18:04] <syeekick> -I INPUT -p udp --dport **** -j ACCEPT
[18:04] <syeekick> several different ones
[18:05] <matan> any help with my question guys?
[18:05] <brainwash> matan: how did you install rtv? and why do you run it with sudo?
[18:05] <nacc> matan: what is rtv? not an ubuntu package, afaict?
[18:06] <matan> i installed it originally with pip3, after trying with git. i used sudo cause thats the way i did it before
[18:06] <k1l_> matan: see what depencies rtv got and if you can satisfy them with packages on ubuntu
[18:08] <OerHeks> why does python3 need sudo to run something?
[18:08] <brainwash> matan: what happens if you run "rtv"?
[18:08] <OerHeks> matan, see https://pypi.python.org/pypi/rtv/1.6.1
[18:08] <OerHeks> brainwash +1
[18:08] <k1l_> and i wonder what that mess from pip install and git install will do anyway.
[18:10] <matan> ty
[18:10] <Guest10122> hi
[18:13] <matan> btw: there seems to be somthign related to the _main_
[18:13] <kovacs> Hi guys
[18:13] <Guest10122> am from saudi arabia
[18:14] <Guest10122> and you
[18:15] <Billyzekid> hello, I have xf86 driver, can someone lead me
[18:15] <Billyzekid> do I make install?
[18:16] <kovacs> I have a problem when I use the monitor with my linux notebook, the quality its bad and its seems like its not calibrated
[18:16] <kovacs> but only happends with linux
[18:16] <gmh> Is there any way to make ubuntu recognize "no_NO.UTF-8" as "nb_NO.UTF-8". One ised by os x and one is used by ubuntu. The ubtuntu one is the correct.
[18:16] <gmh> Tried adding it in /etc/locale.alias but didn't work.
[18:17] <Randomness> what exactly does "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" during installation do? i only have one drive, an ssd. i assume the drive is formated, and it partitions the disk into either 3 partitions (/, /home, /swap) or 2 (/, /swap), is this correct? if so, how large will the swap be with 128gb ssd and 4gb ram? (i can't find any suitable answer via google, maybe my search terms are off.)
[18:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, no by default it will put everything into /
[18:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, also that option would erase anything on the disk
[18:17] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: so default install makes no swap partition?
[18:17] <gmh> is used *
[18:17] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: erasing the complete disk is no problem. :)
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> Randomness  select 'something else', if you want a separate /home partition
[18:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, yes it makes a  swap pariton as well, it's / and swap
[18:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, I like making seperate / home on installs of  the first distro now :)
[18:18] <k1l_> Randomness: it will clean the disk and will do / and swap, with swap = ramsize, iirc
[18:18] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: alright, any idea how much it allocates to swap with 128gb ssd, 4gb ram?
[18:18] <kovacs> Well u can separate /home before the installation
[18:18] <Randomness> k1l_: thanks!
[18:19] <BluesKaj> Randomness, the installer /partitioner will give you the option of setting up a swap then you size it
[18:19] <solomon> guys i need help
[18:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, it would probably do 8GB SWAP by default, which debabtly is to big really with 4GB RAM, its also debable if you really need swap with even 1GB RAM, but I thik hibernation uses swap actsualy so
[18:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> solomon with what?
[18:19] <Randomness> BluesKaj: that only happens if i select "Something else", right?
[18:19] <Moe> Hi Guys
[18:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, default optoins are a bit uh,  seems you  know partitning enough youreslf, so may as well set it up yourself then
[18:20] <prelude2004c> hey guys.. still looking for some help.. ubuntu is messed up man :(
[18:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> prelude2004c, hows that?
[18:20] <solomon> i just installed backbox but when i type su it ask for password but when i type my password it says authentication failure
[18:20] <solomon> i dont knw why
[18:20] <Guest71640> Does anyone know how I can connect to a fortigate vpn server over ipsec in ubuntu?
[18:20] <prelude2004c> brand new install today of version 16... installed server .. installed Xvfb ... rand that .. installed the nvidia driver .run file... " GLX failed again "
[18:20] <BluesKaj> Randomness, yes I think so. it's manual partitioning which I always use, never even tried the auto since I don't trust it :-)
[18:20] <prelude2004c> this has serious issues with GLX
[18:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> solomon how do you try and open black box
[18:21] <prelude2004c> root@ubuntu:~# glxinfo
[18:21] <prelude2004c> name of display: :1
[18:21] <prelude2004c> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1".
[18:21] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: i don't really know what happens, so if i can go with the defaults ill probably do that. ^^
[18:21] <Guest71640> any ipsec vpn client for ubuntu?
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> !backbox | solomon
[18:21] <solomon> login with my the same password
[18:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, BluesKaj indeed the auto partitining isn't that great for those of us who are more experienced,  we are better of custom partitining it seems :)
[18:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> more control etc
[18:21] <Randomness> BluesKaj: alright, sounds reasonable.
[18:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, BluesKaj the custom partitining in the installer is a bit limited as well, so I genrally like setting up in gparted first and then finishing things off in custom  installer
[18:22] <Randomness> might do the partitioning myself then, and since im using ssd, i might just allocate 2 gb for swap.
[18:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, not sure how much swap is really needed now  but yeah that would probably be ok
[18:22] <Randomness> another quick question, should i really bother with making a partition for /home?
[18:22] <k1l_> Randomness: if you want to use hibernation you need swap=ram
[18:23] <BluesKaj> SebthreeBQM10HD, yes i always prepartition with gparted
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> Randomness  it's easy if you want to re/install ubuntu
[18:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> k11 how much  SWAP is needed for that when got 8GB RAM In his case?
[18:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, it's nice to have sperate /home for data, if wanting to re install Ubuntu or even putting on other distros as well :)
[18:23] <BluesKaj> Randomness, /home is very handy to have
[18:24] <Randomness> k1l_: ill probably not hibernation, but from what i gathered from this channel today and online i should make a swap partition on an ssd even if i won't hibernate and if i will actively try to remain under 4gb ram which i have.
[18:25] <maxb>  /home as a separate partition is a tradeoff. It's really helpful if you want to re-install the OS whilst preserving your user data, BUT it means you need to commit to a division of space between /home and the rest up front
[18:25] <Randomness> MonkeyDust: yeah, true. but ill probably make a backup of everything in /home on some external hdd anyways, but i guess having it as a separate partiton will go faster. i dont intend to test a lot of distros or upgrade ubuntu frequently. ill probably just jump from lts to lts.
[18:25] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: yeah, won't skip distros often though.
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> Randomness  yes, i have both /home and a backup
[18:25] <Randomness> BluesKaj: alright.
[18:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, skip distros?
[18:26] <Randomness> well, seems you all are for seperate partition for /home, so ill do that.
[18:26] <Randomness> MonkeyDust: sounds good.
[18:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, doing LTS to LTS may get a bit boring, since there are osme intereting changes on the verge of happening now that the current LTS is already out.
[18:26] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: i meant change distro.
[18:27] <Linnak> Hi, Is it possible to install Atheros wifi driver from here? https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/firmware-atheros/download
[18:27] <Linnak> Or how can I do that there is not in Ubuntus repository
[18:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, altough for something I am thinking of  may not really need 16.10 anyway since there should be a ppa for 16.04 anyway I guess :d
[18:29] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: i'm a boring person. ^^ well, i might test distros, but i got a spare laptop which i might use for that. but the colelctive conscious seems to have a separate partiton for /home, so ill probably do it.
[18:29] <Randomness> thanks for the help people! appreciate it!
[18:35] <user2635> how do I check for duplicate packages
[18:35] <user2635> I installed Ubuntu Mate on top of ubuntu at one point
[18:36] <user2635> and then got rid of it
[18:36] <Lovkesh> I am getting a problem with playing videos in Ubuntu....i get a line in between the frames
[18:36] <k1l_> user2635: your packagemanager shoudl do that.
[18:36] <user2635> but when I now open a file to view all programs
[18:36] <tgm4883> user2635: how did you install it,
[18:36] <user2635> I see that there are double entries
[18:36] <Lovkesh> Also cpu usage gets very high
[18:37] <user2635> sorry my bad
[18:37] <user2635> not Mate
[18:37] <Lovkesh> Is this due to fact that cpu gets used instead of gpu
[18:37] <user2635> I installed Xubuntu
[18:37] <tgm4883> user2635: how did you install it over ubuntu, and can you post a screenshot
[18:37] <Lovkesh> Anyone?
[18:38] <user2635> tgm4883, I followed this https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative
[18:38] <user2635> hold on, let me screenshot
[18:39] <kovacs> Lovkesh, what videocard do you have?
[18:40] <Lovkesh> I have intel HD 5500 and amd radeon r5
[18:41] <prelude2004c> hey guys.. still here asking for help... nothing I do seems to work :(
[18:41] <prelude2004c> even a fresh install doesn't work ....
[18:41] <user2635> tgm4883, here you go http://imgur.com/OQKy85y
[18:41] <user2635> tgm4883, thank you
[18:42] <Lovkesh> I face same problem while using kali but on windows videos play good with 2-3% cpu usage
[18:43] <tgm4883> user2635: hmm, ok. You went through that whole guide?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Lovkesh  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[18:44] <user2635> tgm4883, i actually skipped step 3
[18:44] <user2635> tgm4883, because i wanted to keep unity in case (which I did end up going back to)
[18:44] <k1l_> Lovkesh: for issues with kali better ask the kali support since its not even based on ubuntu
[18:44] <Lovkesh> Kali GNU/Linux 2.0 \n \l
[18:45] <user2635> tgm4883, let me know when you don't need the pic and i'll delete it
[18:45] <tgm4883> user2635: ok, so just to be clear. You are seeing duplicate items after following a guide to switch to Xubuntu from Ubuntu and skipping the step explicitly designed to remove the duplicate items. I'm not sure I'm following what your question is
[18:45] <Lovkesh> O sorry i was using kali
[18:46] <OerHeks> adding a desktop is usually no problem, removing one can give vary results: clean with autoclean, and run bleachbit for all bits and pieces
[18:47] <syeekick> nacc, i can't do it im still scared
[18:47] <user2635> tgm4883, I don't understand why there are duplicates in the first place
[18:47] <tgm4883> user2635: wait, is that the "open with" dialog?
[18:47] <user2635> tgm4883, plus, i'm new to linux
[18:47] <user2635> tgm4883, yes open with
[18:47] <tgm4883> hmm, I think that's a bug
[18:47] <user2635> tgm4883, i assume linux is clever enough not to have duplicates
[18:48] <user2635> tgm4883, ah ok
[18:48] <nacc> syeekick: scared of what? what are you talking about
[18:48] <OerHeks> cache can have duplicates
[18:48] <kovacs> one question guys is it difficult to switch from unity to gnome on las ubuntu version?
[18:48] <tgm4883> OerHeks: IMO, the "open with" dialog probably shouldn't list "gedit" 3 times
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  unity is a compiz layer for gnome ... i guess you mean gnome-shell ... install it, logout, switch, logon
[18:49] <root____1> helo
[18:50] <root____1> what does it mean when i get an (numner here+)          stopped
[18:50] <user2635> tgm4883, other things that aren't in the screenshot, ImageMagick shown twice, same for Rhythmbox
[18:50] <Bashing-om> root____1: Not a good idea to run your IRC client as 'root' .
[18:50] <root____1> when i press enter
[18:50] <tgm4883> user2635: Yea I know
[18:51] <root____1> how do i change that?t
[18:51] <OerHeks> tgm4883, true, but to be sure i would suggest: clean with autoclean, and run bleachbit for all bits and pieces
[18:51] <tgm4883> user2635: I've got the same on my 16.04 desktop. I've not bothered to hunt it down
[18:51] <user2635> tgm4883, ohhh i see
[18:51] <kovacs> MonkeyDust, i mean gnome GUI, change desktop enviroment, im new in linux soz XD
[18:51] <user2635> tgm4883, I think thats the problem, if we don't report it it won't get fixed... I should probably report it
[18:51] <tgm4883> user2635: yea go ahead and report it
[18:51] <user2635> tgm4883, shall i delete the imgur link now?
[18:52] <tgm4883> user2635: sure
[18:52] <user2635> tgm4883, actually i need it to report
[18:52] <tgm4883> ok
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  i just explained how to do it
[18:52] <tgm4883> user2635: you can also upload the image as an attachment in the bug rport
[18:52] <user2635> tgm4883, actually haven't done it before, i'll work it out..
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  if you refer to gnome2, you can install MATE desktop environment
[18:54] <yosefh> hi
[18:54] <kovacs> MonkeyDust, Is gnome2 the lates version?
[18:55] <yosefh> My computer keeps freezing every 5 minutes Can anyone help me with my issue?
[18:55] <yosefh> Its a new install
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  no, gnome3, now called 'gnome shell'
[18:55] <user2635> tgm4883, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/61397
[18:55] <user2635> tgm4883, that will solve it for you
[18:55] <kovacs> MonkeyDust, ahhhh ok o ty man!!
[18:55] <yosefh> I keep asking for help but nobody has been able to solve it yet
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  it can be confusing for a beginner, i agree
[18:56] <tgm4883> user2635: good find, I'd still file a bug. Probably shouldn't be happening and shouldn't need manual cleanup
[18:56] <yosefh> basically I run iotop and it appears that jbd2 is taking up 99% io periodically
[18:57] <yosefh> I cant discover why
[18:57] <yosefh> but the result is my computer completely freezes every 5 minutes for about 1 -2 minutes
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  keep it in the channel
[18:57] <yosefh> sometimes I get 10 minutes of work in before it freezes though
[18:57] <yosefh> Theres no point reinstalling because Its a new install
[18:58] <yosefh> So all i can do is work like this until somebody helps me solve it
[18:58] <user2635> tgm4883, ok i'll try
[19:00] <tgm4883> yosefh: ok, a few things that might help you get support. 1) Don't use enter as punctuation. You can state your issue in one or two posts rather than 10 that you just made. 2) State what you've tried already 3) State what hardware you have (since full system lockups are rare, this might be a hardware issue. Especially on a fresh install)
[19:00] <syeekick> im sacred about applying the iptable rules
[19:00] <Randomness> sorry, yet again a rookie question. got a new laptop on the way here. was going to install ubuntu on it immediately, but should i be getting manufacturer updates before hand? most drivers will be wiped when i install ubuntu, but there might be a few bios/uefi/firmware updates. ( http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=7834508&swLangOid=8&swEnvOid=4059 ) im guessing i should get these updates. what happens if
[19:00] <k1l_> yosefh: anything in syslog?
[19:00] <Randomness> is installed?
[19:01] <yosefh> tgm4883, Sorry man. Well nobody has actually given any solutions. Its mostly just troubleshooting and people throwing their hands up and saying they don't know
[19:02] <yosefh> tgm4883, all I can say is that I fscked all my discs and their were no errors. SMART says the disk is in good enough condition
[19:02] <root____1> what is error code 1
[19:03] <OerHeks> error code 1 .. that happens when you use irc as root ?
[19:03] <k1l_> Randomness: yes, worth a try. sometimes they fix uefi issues  and get better fan control.
[19:04] <tgm4883> yosefh: probably worth noting that k1l_ asked you a question
[19:04] <user2635> tgm4883, in case you want to subscribe
[19:04] <user2635> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1587614
[19:04] <user2635> or anything I need to add
[19:04] <yosefh> tgm4883, I was reading my syslog
[19:05] <tgm4883> yosefh: it's better to just pastebin it
[19:06] <Randomness> k1l_: alright, guess i will do that then.
[19:06] <niklas__> hey there
[19:07] <root____1> how do i change nickname from root?
[19:07] <user2635> anyone use KeePass? I don't know if this is the right place to ask this
[19:07] <k1l_> root____1: you dont run all programs as root. ubuntu is set up to not be run this way.
[19:08] <root____1> or not run this as root?
[19:08] <yosefh> k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16873438/
[19:09] <yosefh> tgm4883, thanks for the suggestion
[19:09] <root____1> this anwert is kinda confusing
[19:09] <root____1> answer
[19:09] <k1l_> root____1: what ubuntu do you use exactly?
[19:09] <root____1> 1.4
[19:09] <k1l_> root____1: ok. that is no ubuntu.
[19:10] <root____1> lol what?
[19:10] <root____1> oh sorry
[19:10] <root____1> xD
[19:11] <root____1> 14.2\
[19:11] <root____1> 14.4 sorrt
[19:11] <root____1> sorry
[19:11] <root____1> lts :P
[19:11] <k1l_> root____1: then stop using programs with sudo/root that dont need root permissions.
[19:11] <EriC^^> it's still wrong actually
[19:11] <EriC^^> 14.04 :P
[19:12] <root____1> ok
[19:12] <yosefh> k1l_, syslog with: grep error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16873506/ , grep WARNING: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16873517/
[19:13] <root____1> also... i get an error of not enough disk space when i have 20G and i am trying to install transmission
[19:13] <root____1> akso occures with error code one if it matters
[19:14] <k1l_> yosefh: you cloned this install from another hdd?
[19:14] <root____1> nope
[19:14] <yosefh> k1l_, no, i upgraded from 15.10 i think
[19:14] <root____1> did sudo apt-get install transmission
[19:14] <yosefh> k1l_,  i installed with live cd
[19:15] <k1l_> root____1: first stop using programs as root that dont need root. are you running this program as root? the whole desktoP?
[19:15] <root____1> i dont think so....
[19:15] <yosefh> root__1 if you are running out of disc space you can try to run sudo apt-get clean
[19:15] <root____1> i ahve 20g available
[19:16] <BluesKaj> root____1, in / ?
[19:16] <root____1> i also got a message that boot directory runing out of disj space
[19:16] <root____1> in cinputer settings xD
[19:16] <yosefh> root__1 each partition has its own amount of space assuming you have multiple partitions
[19:16] <root____1> good point
[19:17] <Gallomimia> boot partition is usually a lot smaller
[19:17] <Gallomimia> only room for maybe 5-6 kernels
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> root____1  pastebin the out of    lsblk -f ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:17] <Gallomimia> and all their fixins. apt autoremove to clear out the old
[19:18] <root____1> but i deleted a 2g worth of videos and its still giving me the same error
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> output*
[19:18] <yosefh> root____1, your packages are stored in /var and binaries usually in /usr/bin
[19:18] <root____1> same partition
[19:18] <k1l_> yosefh: try this "pkill gvfsd-metadata; rm -rf .local/share/gvfs-metadata"
[19:20] <user2635> For the KeePass users, I'm coming from Windows and I used to use the easy CTRL-ALT-K to unlock workspace. How do I turn this on for linux?
[19:20] <yosefh> k1l_, I'm going to stress test my system to see if it worked. Know any quick ways to do that?
[19:21] <tgm4883> root____1: can you pastebin the output of 'df'
[19:21] <Gallomimia> yosefh: what are you stressing? cpu?
[19:21] <reisio> user2635: what's ctrl+alt+k do exactly, on Windows?
[19:22] <user2635> reisio, unlock KeePass
[19:22] <user2635> KeePass has 2 states, locked (in systray) and unlocked
[19:22] <Gallomimia> user2635: keep in mind, the specific desktop environment you're using will determine these features
[19:22] <yosefh> Gallomimia, disc io
[19:22] <user2635> I'm using Unity
[19:22] <Gallomimia> dd to or from a file, into /dev/null or from /dev/zero
[19:22] <user2635> Alternatively, you may suggest your own password manager solutions on linux
[19:22] <root____1> how do i paste into terminal? i cant right click
[19:23] <Gallomimia> shift ctrl v
[19:23] <Gallomimia> or middle mouse
[19:23] <yosefh> root__1 or right click paste
[19:23] <yosefh> depends on your terminal
[19:23] <Gallomimia> he said he can't right click
[19:23] <yosefh> oh sorry
[19:23] <k1l_> root____1: are you really using ubuntu?
[19:23] <reisio> user2635: is it a screen locker?
[19:24] <root____1> no
[19:24] <root____1> yes
[19:24] <user2635> reisio, do you know what KeePass is? It's a password manager, basically it locks the program, not the screen (unless by screen, you mean window)
[19:24] <reisio> right, I thought it was not a screen locker
[19:24] <root____1> i do use ubunti
[19:24] <k1l_> root____1: please run "lsb_release -d | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[19:25] <tgm4883> root____1: then pastebin the output of that command
[19:25] <root____1> swift ctrl v not working
[19:25] <tgm4883> root____1: so type it in?
[19:25] <root____1> sad face
[19:26] <home> root@ubuntu-server:/etc/apt# sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:26] <home> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[19:26] <home> No new release found
[19:26] <home> ^ how to fix that
[19:26] <home> want to upgrade from 15.04 to 16.0
[19:26] <tgm4883> home: wait until July?
[19:26] <home> 16.04
[19:26] <tgm4883> oh
[19:26] <tgm4883> !eol | home
[19:26] <BluesKaj> home, ypu
[19:26] <tgm4883> home: you'll need to upgrade to 15.10 first
[19:26] <k1l_> home: tail -n 1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[19:26] <home> how to upgrade to 15.10
[19:26] <BluesKaj> ll need to to get an iso and do a clean install
[19:26] <k1l_> home: what is the output
[19:27] <home> Prompt=lts
[19:27] <reisio> user2635: one really dumb way would be to use xdotool
[19:27] <home> k1l_, thats the output
[19:27] <ioria> normal
[19:27] <k1l_> home: change that to "normal"
[19:27] <reisio> user2635: you using keepassx?
[19:27] <user2635> xdotool, sorry care to explain what that package does?
[19:27] <user2635> reisio, KeePass 2
[19:27] <tgm4883> k1l_: wait, why would he have prompt=lts if he was on 15.04?
[19:27] <reisio> xdotool is kinda like autohotkey
[19:27]  * tgm4883 thinks he's on 14.04
[19:27] <k1l_> home: sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades     . then change that, then press ctrl+o for saving and ctrl+x for leaving
[19:28] <home> k1l_, Okay command is working now
[19:28] <root____1> can u type the command again?
[19:28] <k1l_> tgm4883: maybe some hoster setup
[19:28] <ioria> tgm4883, ^
[19:28] <home> updating
[19:28] <home> here goes
[19:28] <Gallomimia> !info keepassx
[19:28] <tgm4883> ah
[19:28] <reisio> user2635: so you're using it to lock a workspace? Is that useful in addition to GNOME/Unity's own locking?
[19:28] <root____1> nvm
[19:28] <Gallomimia> he's not using it to lock a workspace, he's using it to lock up the passwords
[19:29] <Gallomimia> and user2635, it's cross platform. you can install it for linux np
[19:29] <reisio> you want to "lock up the passwords" with nothing but a keyboard shortcut?
[19:29] <reisio> sorry I don't get it :p
[19:29] <Gallomimia> yes
[19:29] <user2635> reisio, lol.. basically yes!
[19:29] <Gallomimia> unlocking obv takes a password
[19:30] <reisio> 'kay...
[19:30] <user2635> maybe I should use keepassx
[19:30] <reisio> docs for win32 apps are so awful
[19:30] <root____1> termbon.com/mwdq
[19:30] <user2635> basically i'm transitioning to linux
[19:30] <Gallomimia> why wouldn't it make sense? locking the screen takes only a key combo
[19:30] <user2635> whatever password manager works on ubuntu works for me
[19:30] <user2635> I just need your advice
[19:30] <Gallomimia> user2635: from that !info snippet, it's my understanding that it's the zact same program
[19:31] <user2635> thats how I used to work
[19:31] <reisio> it just seems pointless
[19:31] <k1l_> root____1: "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:31] <reisio> if someone is already logged in as you, all they need is a key combo
[19:31] <Gallomimia> NO
[19:31] <reisio> and if they aren't, you're hitting a key combo for no particular reason
[19:31] <k1l_> root____1: and you really should stop using irssi with sudo
[19:31] <root____1> fine i will relog
[19:31] <user2635> Gallomimia, Keepass 2 has more features
[19:31] <user2635> reisio, i guess...
[19:31] <tgm4883> reisio: +1
[19:31] <Gallomimia> oh, well, maybe there's something else
[19:31] <Gallomimia> !info keepass2
[19:32] <Gallomimia> there
[19:32] <user2635> forget it.. I guess for now I can just 'favorite' Keepass on the unity bar
[19:32] <user2635> and use super + (whatever number keepass is)
[19:32] <Gallomimia> you don't like that there's a keepass2 package also?
[19:33] <user2635> Gallomimia, i have no problem with that. thats what i'm using now :)
[19:33] <Gallomimia> no shortcuts?
[19:33] <Gallomimia> not the same feature set as keepass2 for win?
[19:33] <user2635> Gallomimia, i've solved it for now.. i basically needed a shortcut to open a particular program i guess
[19:34] <Gallomimia> cause that's suspicious... says its open source and cross platform
[19:34] <reisio> user2635: does it not have its own shortcut manager in its own prefs?
[19:34] <user2635> Gallomimia, like you said it depends on the DE
[19:34] <tgm4883> reisio: actually, I bet that key combo just brings up keypass rather than unlocks it
[19:34] <user2635> tgm4883, I think you're right
[19:34] <Gallomimia> well, it's not a feature of the DE, it's a feature of that program
[19:34] <reisio> yeah that sounds totally pointless :p
[19:35] <user2635> in windows it puts it in the background and 'locks' the program
[19:35] <reisio> what do you do then, exactly?
[19:35] <reisio> once it's up?
[19:35] <user2635> enter the master pass again
[19:35] <user2635> to unlock the db
[19:35] <user2635> but it means I don't have to actually open the program from scratch
[19:35] <user2635> just as you would an email client
[19:35] <user2635> (except in email clients you normally save the password)
[19:35] <reisio> keepass --unlock-all ?
[19:35] <tgm4883> "To quickly switch back from an application to KeePass, you can use the global hot key that restores the KeePass main window."
[19:36] <user2635> yeah I confused all of you sorry
[19:36] <reisio> my guess is that you're using a password manager because your passwords are hard to remember
[19:36] <reisio> which probably also means they're not great passwords (entropy-ly speaking)
[19:36] <user2635> reisio, well not only that
[19:36] <reisio> you should probably try and migrate to algorithmic passwords, and lose the pw manager
[19:36] <user2635> I don't even know what entropy means
[19:36] <reisio> user2635: nobody does :p
[19:36] <user2635> is there a bot in irc to define words
[19:36] <user2635> .define entropy
[19:37] <reisio> probably, but wiktionary.org is betta
[19:37] <reisio> like the fish
[19:37] <tgm4883> reisio: wait, hard to remember passwords are bad?
[19:37] <user2635> please educate me if you know better
[19:37] <Ben64> https://xkcd.com/936/
[19:37] <user2635> I'm always to looking to learn
[19:37] <user2635> Ben64 I've seen that before
[19:37] <reisio> tgm4883: since they're usually also short, yes
[19:38] <Ben64> user2635: extremely relevant
[19:38] <reisio> people think short and gibberish is better than long and easy-to-remember
[19:38] <user2635> but that doesn't solve the problem of having to remembering passwords still!
[19:38] <Ben64> it does, look at the last panel!
[19:38] <reisio> but to a computer, a character is a character is a character
[19:38] <user2635> Ben64 for over 30 websites?
[19:38] <tgm4883> reisio: well, keepass generates passwords which don't need to be short
[19:38] <aswe323> yo
[19:38] <reisio> user2635: it doesn't, but you can make an algorithm in your head
[19:39] <reisio> name of site/password purpose -> + your middle name + favorite animal + random easily remembered gibberish you actually will remember
[19:39] <user2635> lets be real here guys, does anyone here do this already, and if so, is it easy for you?
[19:39] <reisio> I do it, it's so easy
[19:39] <Ben64> reddit = red = ketchup + random words
[19:39] <user2635> if so, please teach me how
[19:39] <k1l_> aswe323: you are still running irssi as root :/
[19:39] <reisio> it's just a simple formula I store in my head
[19:39] <yosefh> Gallomimia, Thanks dd did the trick for testing io.
[19:39] <aswe323> yes but my nick is diffrent
[19:39] <aswe323> xD
[19:39] <reisio> aswe323: yes it is
[19:40] <aswe323> sorry i dont have any outer users on this mechime
[19:40] <aswe323> and this is the onlt user
[19:40] <yosefh> k1l, "pkill gvfsd-metadata; rm -rf .local/share/gvfs-metadata" might have done something but im still getting spikes
[19:40] <Ben64> aswe323: you should add yourself a user
[19:40] <aswe323> my terminal starts as $
[19:40] <reisio> cbf to keep passwords in a db/list
[19:40] <tgm4883> Meh, I'll agree that longer passwords are better than shorter passwords. But we'll have to disagree that BatteryHorseStapleTrombone is a better password than xOXtMWHnCD0G9iUJYNuH2hG0bjR7ijfAfhPPdWE0pZDc4fXcWewMkUEpdNG0
[19:40] <k1l_> aswe323: that is not a standard ubuntu install then.
[19:41] <user2635> tgm4883, +1
[19:41] <Gallomimia> perhaps you've started in single user mode?
[19:41] <aswe323> ok knwo what.. i am gona deal with this tomarror...
[19:41] <yosefh> k1l_, if it ihelps understand the issue, the spikes get worse the longer I use the computer
[19:41] <aswe323> now its a shower movie and sleep...
[19:41] <Gallomimia> tho, it usually gives you a # terminal prompt
[19:41] <user2635> I don't understand how shorter passwords are better
[19:41] <user2635> shorter passwords are still prone to dictionary attacks
[19:41] <aswe323> byby
[19:41] <Ben64> yosefh: run atop and see whats going on
[19:43] <reisio> you want a password as long as possible /that is still *easily, easily* remembered/
[19:43] <tgm4883> user2635: technically, a shorter password is not better. But there are instances when it's better to have a password one can remember
[19:43] <reisio> which is quite easy to accomplish with a simple formula
[19:43] <reisio> even though so many sites still enforce awful passwords :/
[19:43] <Ben64> yep
[19:43] <reisio> there are sites that are only just adopting terrible passwords in the past year or two
[19:43]  * reisio shakes head
[19:43] <Ben64> and have short limits on length for some reason
[19:43] <reisio> gonna be a decade before they get around to sanity
[19:44] <user2635> I really have no idea what to do now
[19:44] <Ben64> 16 characters max or something dumb like that
[19:44] <user2635> I'm still going to depend on keepass because i'm so lazy
[19:44] <reisio> user2635: just keep it in mind; do it how you've been doing it for now
[19:44] <reisio> that's very sane
[19:44] <yosefh> Ben64 CPU or Memory is almost never used. Its just the io being eaten. but i cant pin point a process via iotop
[19:44] <tgm4883> Ben64: not sure if it's true, but I read somewhere that length limits usually mean your password is stored in plaintext
[19:44] <user2635> thanks guys
[19:44] <Randomness> not that it matters but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Ubuntu.27s_official_recommendation says "Ubuntu recommends Pendrivelinux 2016-04-11", but if you click the link it recommends Rufus.
[19:45] <tgm4883> Ben64: I mean, it could just be the input field, but that seems easier to fix
[19:45] <k1l_> well, the longest passwords are useless if the are written on note-its or circumvented because they are hard to remember. that is why we have security breaches all the time.
[19:45] <user2635> how about backing up? have you guys used the default deja dup on ubuntu to backup before? tgm4883 reisio Ben64
[19:45] <yosefh> tgm4883, that would make sense, as a hash is a fixed length
[19:45] <Ben64> user2635: i haven't
[19:46] <tgm4883> user2635:  nope
[19:46] <tgm4883> k1l_: true, which is why you use a password manager
[19:46] <k1l_> yep
[19:48] <yosefh> though to be fair, a password length limit could be for practical reasons or to prevent abuse by sending huge strings
[19:48] <user2635> What do you guys use to backup your system? (hopefully you do backup!)
[19:49] <pauljw> user2635, i use deja-dup and it works just fine.
[19:49] <k1l_> user2635: rsync selected folders to a external hdd in a cronjob. used dejadub and that worked too.
[19:49] <user2635> pauljw, good to know! i'm doing my first back
[19:49] <OerHeks> i use my mouse to backup
[19:49] <Ben64> i use rsync, external drivers, offsite backup to my server as well
[19:50] <Ben64> external drives*
[19:50] <user2635> k1l_, i've heard of rsync through a YT vid
[19:50] <yosefh> I use my gas pedal to backup
[19:50] <yosefh> using rsync is nice
[19:50] <tgm4883> rsync to 3.5" floppies
[19:50] <yosefh> lel
[19:51] <reisio> user2635: I use rsync or rdiff-backup depending on the situation
[19:52] <reisio> user2635: there are a number of alternatives to rdiff-backup, too; bup, obnam, some others
[19:52] <reisio> depends on what you want, 1:1, incremental, etc.
[19:53] <user2635> reinecath, err... incremental I guess
[19:53] <user2635> reisio**
[19:53] <OerHeks> so how do you test your backup, user2635
[19:53] <user2635> just general personal backup
[19:54] <user2635> OerHeks... I'm inexperienced. I've never tested a backup
[19:54] <user2635> OerHeks, in fact this is my first backup
[19:55] <marco__> querria hacer una pregunta
[19:55] <k1l_> !es | marco__
[19:55] <marco__> gracias
[19:56] <marco__> tanks
[19:56] <dagerik> I did apt-get upgrade and now ssh is not working. Connection refused.
[19:56] <dagerik> Is it not listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:22 anymore?
[20:05] <user2635> OerHeks, did you have any tips?
[20:08] <OerHeks> well what is the use of a backup if you cannot test it
[20:08] <user2635> OerHeks, how would I test it though?
[20:08] <user2635> buy another machine and try restoring on there?
[20:08] <user2635> I've never had to test it
[20:08] <user2635> I understand its more important in a commercial context
[20:10] <m82labs> Whats the general opinion on using passwordless SSH logins via keys? Specifically for production systems (that are not addressable from the internet).
[20:11] <LinuxGuy2020> Hello Im looking for anyone that has gotten Skyrim installed on Ubuntu and it actually works. I could use some help.
[20:12] <dgadd523> Hello had to reinstall 16.04 to get Unity desktop back, now I cant see my sound card ... any suggestions
[20:14] <Gallomimia> dagerik: you could try service sshd start
[20:18] <backbox_> hello
[20:18] <backbox_> hi
[20:19] <backbox_> hi
[20:19] <user2635> part of my backup failed
[20:20] <user2635> it said it couldn't backup /home/user/.cache/dconf
[20:20] <user2635> what is stored there anyway?
[20:20] <user2635> is it to worry about?
[20:20] <Leptospire> Hey folks. I need some help setting up a home media server's network connection. When I connect to my router via wifi I get internet but no network. When I connect to my router via ethernet I get network but not wifi. Can anyone help me? I am running lubuntu. Linksys can't seem to help me.
[20:20] <backbox_> kas kurde nazane
[20:21] <backbox_> etc/bash.bashrc
[20:25] <malwar3hun73r> i have 3 tasks that i want to run when ubuntu starts and i'm using upstart to control this.  The jobs need to be executed in a specific order. From my understanding, i can use "start on started job1" to control this.  Job1 starts fine, but job2, which contains the "start on started job1" only starts if I manually start it. Any ideas what's going on?
[20:26] <Joel> I'm getting the following when trying to connect to my vpn: AUTH-PAM: BACKGROUND: user 'joel' failed to authenticate: Authentication failure, is there any way to up the logging from PAM so I can see why I'm failing to authenticate?
[20:28] <yosefh> What can make Ubuntu so slow that it can't even detect mouse movement or key presses?
[20:28] <Guest71687> I am running 14.04, kernel version 3.13.0-86-generic on an HP pavilion 15 notebook and cannot connect to the internet via ethernet or wireless, after running dmesg | grep eth0, there are 'link is not ready' and 'link is down' messages consistently. I am dual booting with Windows and the same problem is taking place on that platform as well.
[20:28] <dax> user2635: no. i'd recommend excluding ~/.cache from your backups
[20:29] <user2635> dax, someone told me the same :) I've done that now. thanks!
[20:30] <Rochvellon> yosefh: high input/output from hdd could cause this
[20:30] <yosefh> My disc io keeps spiking to 99% and I can barely move my mouse or keyboard, during the time leading up to the spike. Network also lags up to 30seconds latency
[20:31] <yosefh> Rochvellon, this issue has simply been getting worse ever since I installed Ubuntu
[20:31] <LinuxGuy2020> DOes anyone have experience with installing Windows games on ubuntu that could give me some tips/advice?
[20:31] <yosefh> Rochvellon, I showed someone my syslog earlier and they tried to solve it but their solution didnt work
[20:31] <Leptospire> Where can I pay someone to help solve my linux home networking issues?
[20:32] <yosefh> LinuxGuy2020, use wine, playonlinux, or Crossover
[20:32] <yosefh> LinuxGuy2020, you can also download steam for linux
[20:32] <LinuxGuy2020> yosefh: Yeah thats pretty obvious I need more help than that.
[20:32] <Leptospire> Where can I pay someone to help solve my linux home networking issues? I am not satisfied with the free help that's available
[20:32] <yosefh> LinuxGuy2020, what specific issues do you have?
[20:33] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: Local host (in-house check) ' ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> ' what results ?
[20:34] <LinuxGuy2020> yosefh: Everyone on youtube says skyrim plays great on linux. I tried playonlinux and it has a skyrim install script to choose. It hangs and fails to finish. Ive followed manual steps and audio gets static. Tried crossover and it installs flawlessly and everything works. I really don't want to fork over $40 if theres a better way.
[20:34] <yosefh> Leptospire,  http://www.ubuntu.com/management?_ga=1.187580463.6484531.1464726836
[20:34] <LinuxGuy2020> yosefh: Either better directions to manually do it or a better script to run on playonlinux. I dont know.
[20:37] <yosefh> Leptospire, I'm not sure that canonical offers support for individuals though. Maybe your (Ubuntu LoCo) local team can help?
[20:38] <Leptospire> yosefh: I tried looking there; it does not seem to apply to individuals for a home network
[20:39] <Mrokii> p/leave
[20:39] <yosefh> LinuxGuy2020, this looks promising https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2110829-modding-skyrim-with-wine-playonlinux-in-linux-ubuntu/
[20:39] <Rochvellon> yosefh: you should find out what task this cause it. iotop should show this
[20:39] <brelod> Leptospire, why arent you satisfied with the free help? What was the problem with that?
[20:39] <Leptospire> yosefh: I am simply frustrated because I had a home network working, then changed routers. It no longer works, but linksys says they can't help me because I'm running linux. For two months I've been unsuccessful asking here for a solution to my problem
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> Leptospire  depending on the nature of your question(s), you may want to join a dedicated channel
[20:39] <yosefh> Rochvellon, iotop doesnt help really. it just says jbd2 and kworker
[20:40] <yosefh> Rochvellon, I'm pretty sure *every* operation makes those take io
[20:40] <Leptospire> People are great when they try to help. I appreciate it. But I have been unable to find a solution for two months! That is the source of my dissatisfaction
[20:40] <Guest71687> it completes successfully with no packets lost
[20:40] <yosefh> Leptospire, I understand where you are coming from. sometimes Local Community Teams (LoCo Teams) offer support
[20:40] <Rochvellon> kworker? KDE, yosefh?
[20:41] <Leptospire> I have a home meda server running lubuntu connected directly to my router via ethernet. I can SSH into this server but I cannot access the internet from it. I am not a networking expert.
[20:41] <yosefh> Rochvellon,  Idont think so. I don't have it installed
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> Rochvellon  the k in kworker means kernel, not kde
[20:41] <Rochvellon> ah
[20:41] <Leptospire> yosefh, I have tried reaching out to local community groups, but I am not from a big city so there isn't much
[20:41] <yosefh> Leptospire, what issue are you having ?
[20:42] <yosefh> Leptospire, or you just want to know who you can call in general so you dont have to wait for answers?
[20:42] <yosefh> Leptospire, nvm you just mentioned your issue
[20:43] <yosefh> Leptospire, it sounds like a port issue
[20:43] <Leptospire> I suspect the problem may be related to the following:
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> Leptospire  try and ask in ##networking
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> (double #)
[20:44] <Leptospire> I set up the server to have a static local IP, but this static IP is outside the range of " IP Address Range:"
[20:44] <Leptospire> MonkeyDust: thanks. I will try
[20:44] <yosefh> MonkeyDust, is there a special channel for spiking hard drives as well? I've been trying to resolve this issue for over a week
[20:44] <LinuxGuy2020> yosefh: Thank you Ill read that.
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> yosefh  type   /msg alis list blah    <-- replace blah with a word of your choice
[20:45] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: ' ip route list ' in the output is a "gateway" IP . Can you ping that IP ? ' ping -c3 <gatewau_IP> ' .
[20:46] <yosefh> i dont get any response
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> yosefh  you vave waited 2.6842 seconds for an answer, be more patient
[20:47] <yosefh> MonkeyDust, I found it. I just was looking in the wrong place
[20:48] <yosefh> MonkeyDust, I thought it would appear in this window. the response is in the freenode ta
[20:48] <yosefh> tab*
[20:48] <LinuxGuy2020> Leptospire: set the server to DHCP and reserve an address on the router maybe?
[20:48] <Rochvellon> yosefh: did you tried you tried "perf" alsready? Ran some of your mounts out of memory?
[20:48] <yosefh> Rochvellon, its been doing this since I installed it
[20:50] <Guest71687> Basing-om: ping was successful
[20:50] <dagerik> im getting mysqld_safe[9512]: Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[20:50] <dagerik> but the file is there
[20:51] <Bashing-om> !nick | Guest71687
[20:52] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: Opps on bot's last . I mean to use my nick, else I can and will not see the response .
[20:54] <Guest71687> Bashing-om: Okay
[20:54] <robbie> hai
[20:55] <Joel> I hate pam so darn much, it can die in a fire
[20:55] <dagerik> why does /etc/mysql folder remain when I purge mysql-server mysql-client
[20:55] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: :) .. ok next is can you get out onto the net . what results ' ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> ' ?
[20:57] <holysmokesbertme> I accidentally mv'ed my user directory to nowhere. The source partition has not benn written since that mv call. Can I still get the data back?
[20:58] <tgm4883> holysmokesbertme: what do you mean nowhere? What command did you run?
[20:58] <OerHeks> mv to /dev/zero ??
[20:58] <holysmokesbertme> mv /home/me /newhome/
[20:59] <holysmokesbertme> but newhome was a drive i didnt recognize it wasnt actually healthy
[20:59] <Guest71687> Bashing-om: Okay so I tried plugging the ethernet cable into another port and the ethernet is working, and now in the dmesg log it is telling me to install nss-myhostname
[20:59] <tgm4883> holysmokesbertme: that doesn't look like nowhere to me
[20:59] <OerHeks> oh, then / should have /newhome, between mnt and opt
[20:59] <SD_Ecliptica> holysmokesbertme you can't just do mv /newhome /home/me?
[20:59] <tgm4883> holysmokesbertme: define not healthy
[21:00] <holysmokesbertme> when I try to access files from newhome they are not there
[21:00] <Guest71687> Bashing-om: With the wireless still not connecting. It say secure with no connection
[21:00] <holysmokesbertme> even when I remount newhome there is nothing in it
[21:01] <tgm4883> !recover | holysmokesbertme
[21:01] <bprompt> holysmokesbertme:   maybe nothing got moved to it :)
[21:02] <holysmokesbertme> no because the source directory isnt there
[21:02] <Bashing-om> quenode: wireless I can not help with .. no expeiience . for the error make sure the files " /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname " have the same name .
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: ^^
[21:02] <holysmokesbertme> i have mounted oldhome readonly now for the chance to somehow undelete the freshly moved files
[21:03] <holysmokesbertme> to oldhome hasnt benn written since
[21:04] <yosefh>  Does anyone here know how to deal with perf errors?
[21:04] <yosefh> I got roundtrip evsel->name check                              : FAILED!
[21:06] <mundus2018> Not sure if this is an issue for here -- But can someone help me install koel? Im having issues
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Guest71687:I be away for a bit . be back soonest .\
[21:09] <Leptospire> For the record, I finally have my network problem solved: route add <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0; sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[21:10] <krastavac> what text editor to use in ubuntu?
[21:10] <mundus2018> nano? vim?
[21:11] <bprompt> krastavac:  too many to mention, depends on needs
[21:11] <_AxS_> hey all ..  i';m about to help someone with their ubuntu install; haven't used it in -years- tho.  what's a regular ubuntu install use for boot loader? grub / lilo / something else?
[21:11] <Mordoc_Mystery> krastavac, If you are looking for something graphical gedit is fine as well.
[21:11] <nacc> _AxS_: grub
[21:11] <krastavac> notepad ++ equivalent
[21:12] <OerHeks> !ide
[21:12] <_AxS_> thx.  is interactive modification of boot command like usually enabled in grub or disabled by default?
[21:12] <bprompt> krastavac:    I probably would go with Kate then
[21:12] <OerHeks> standard gedit
[21:12] <nacc> _AxS_: you mean during the boot? it's enabled, although you may need to hit escape to see the full menu, or whatever
[21:13] <_AxS_> nacc: yes during boot.  ok thx.  I might have to force this computer into single mode, as i doubt the guy has the password for root and his user probably isn't in wheel either...
[21:13] <krastavac> it requires kde
[21:14] <bprompt> krastavac:   oooook, so it does :), a few libs I'd think only
[21:26] <nexii> hello.  I was wondering how to fix terminator so that the default <ctrl>tab and <ctrl><shift>tab keybindings work
[21:30] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: Back . your status ?
[21:35] <shivaya> hi folks, I was wondering if there is a way to write ovs_extra stuff for /etc/network/interfaces in multiple lines? I tried multiple ovs_extra lines but it didn't work
[21:41] <maurizio> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[21:41] <nikulinlg_> Hi all, where is russian ubuntu channel?
[21:41] <genii> !ru
[21:42] <nikulinlg_> ok
[21:50] <gamelaster> Hello, I'm trying to install any Ubuntu distro, but anyway, I still fail on this error: http://imgur.com/yTjHPFR . Before I has got installed an Xubuntu, Lubuntu and its working (still same configuration) and its works. But now no. Installation: Along side with Windows 10 (UEFI). Install disk is MSDOS(NO GPT). / EXT4 and SWAP, boot loader into that disk. I tried to change the disk, but not helped. Any ideas?
[21:51] <reisio> gamelaster: so... the current problem manifests how?
[21:52] <Fleuv> hello, does the latest ubuntu server support nginx and php7.0-fpm to run with sockets?
[21:52] <Mordoc_Mystery> gamelaster, Interesting, could it be secure boot as the culprit everyone?
[21:53] <reisio> Fleuv: as opposed to?
[21:53] <Kenrinx> Yes you need to make the image uefi
[21:53] <gamelaster> reisio: in image you can see, its still returning this grub error. I tried Lubuntu, Xubuntu etc. Mordoc_Mystery: Well, I have secure boot enabled, but alot of times I installed GRUB successfuly with Secure Boot, not any problems before
[21:53] <gamelaster> I tried the "Repair-Boot" tool a few times, but anytime no help.
[21:54] <Fleuv> reisio, well on my machine running this set of software php pages are served empty.
[21:54] <reisio> Fleuv: empty?
[21:55] <yosefh> Why are kworker and jbd2 constantly spiking?
[21:55] <Fleuv> reisio, yes nothing in the source. nothing in the logs. configuration seems right.. where shall i start?
[21:55] <gamelaster> I tried to search on google about this error, but nothing not helps...
[21:56] <yosefh> Does anyone know why the io of kworker and jbd2 are constantly spiking to 99.99% usage
[21:56] <reisio> Fleuv: you should see something even if PHP isn't running properly
[21:58] <OerHeks> maybe installing xdebug extention is any help https://gist.github.com/hollodotme/418e9b7c6ebc358e7fda
[21:58] <OerHeks> kworker indexing service, yosefh, on Kubuntu
[21:58] <Fleuv> reisio, indeed that's the part what is confusing me. When renaming a perfectly fine .html file to .php it serves a blank page as well.
[21:59] <OerHeks> tons of foru posts about that, howto disable or enlarge diskspace for it.
[21:59] <OerHeks> c/forum
[21:59] <yosefh> I can't  even  use my computer as a text editor :s as it wont recognize keypresses
[21:59] <reisio> Fleuv: okay... I'd guess your nginx config is quite oddly configured, or not configured at all, then
[21:59] <reisio> Fleuv: see nginx wiki for php-fpm config examples
[21:59] <yosefh> OerHeks, its a kernel service i think i dont have kubuntu
[22:00] <OerHeks> single core cpu or duo core without HT are hit by this IO
[22:00] <yosefh> I have to press every key about 10 times during spikes just to type something
[22:00] <OerHeks> yosefh, kworker is standard in kde.. so tell me what you installed?
[22:00] <yosefh> So I apologize if my responses take a long time
[22:01] <yosefh> OerHeks, its beeenlike this since i  used a default install and upgraded to  latest ubuntu
[22:01] <Fleuv> reisio, well most of it (I guess everything) I found it on the internet, here are my configs (templates): : http://pastebin.com/8V3XXMfr http://pastebin.com/c2P2diSn http://pastebin.com/bJgmDzKF http://pastebin.com/fhiFsXEu http://pastebin.com/rKuXxSfm
[22:02] <k1l_> yosefh: still not fixed?
[22:02] <yosefh> k1l_, nobody has any solutions
[22:02] <yosefh> k1l_, the solutions from google are just random. I could try them all but I'd probably just wreck my sytem
[22:03] <yosefh> system*
[22:03] <k1l_> yosefh: are you sure the partitions you use on the system are ok? can you provide the output url of "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:04] <yosefh> k1l_, http://termbin.com/nhry
[22:04] <yosefh> i fscked multiple times
[22:05] <OerHeks> man you have system memory issues
[22:05] <holysmokesbertme> holy dodongos
[22:05] <holysmokesbertme> ext4magic is awesome
[22:05] <OerHeks> run memtest86 from liveiso ..
[22:05] <holysmokesbertme> It looks like I get my files back
[22:06] <yosefh> OerHeks, you mean me?
[22:06] <OerHeks> yosefh, yes, looking at your dmesg
[22:06] <tekeous> OK, here's a question: I am running Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 amd64 on a custom-built PC. When I suspend the machine it won't wake up. Suspend was working on 15.10.
[22:06] <yosefh> this you mean "[    0.000000] Scanning 1 areas for low memory corruption" ?
[22:06] <yosefh> or this spam [    0.000000] PM: Registered nosave memory: [mem 0x00000000-0x00000fff] ?
[22:06] <reisio> tekeous: what're you trying to wake it from?
[22:07] <tekeous> Suspend, sleep mode, etc
[22:07] <reisio> tekeous: ...with what tool/command/installation
[22:08] <tekeous> I don't understand the question: I click Suspend from the power menu, and press some keyboard keys or the power button to wake it up. But it never wakes up from the black screen
[22:08] <yosefh> OerHeks, my memory usage never goes back 10% and my system works perfectly normal usually. It just suddenl spikes. Are you saying that memory corruptions is causing problems only with io ?
[22:08] <reisio> tekeous: oh okay
[22:08] <yosefh> past 10%
[22:09] <tekeous> Between clicking Suspend, and waking it, obviously I've walked away for a bit
[22:09] <tekeous> The Ubuntu wiki chalked suspend issues up to motherboard incompatibility, but it was working with 15.10.
[22:12] <OerHeks> yosefh, ram, or an bios issue where CPU MTRRs don't cover all of memory, maybe timing issue or 2 different brands
[22:12] <L0g4nAd4ms> Sorry guys, how can i install "Elegance Colors" on Ubuntu Xenial ?
[22:12] <OerHeks> yosefh, first step is the simple memtest86
[22:14] <Kenrinx> No support yet l0g4nad4ms, compile it from git
[22:14] <yosefh> OerHeks, I have no problem doing that. isnt there a kernel option for that to
[22:14] <prelude2004c> still nowhere :( can anyone help me with GLX ?
[22:14] <yosefh> OerHeks, boot option imean
[22:14] <prelude2004c> i been at it now for over 24 hours.. i still can't figure it out :(
[22:14] <prelude2004c> brand new install.. still nothing
[22:14] <L0g4nAd4ms> Kenrinx: Yeah I think the vala version 0.30 that is available in the ubuntu repos is too old to compile it
[22:15] <krastavac> what text reader to use, i ued balabolka in windows?
[22:15] <L0g4nAd4ms> always get an error
[22:15] <reisio> krastavac: text reader?
[22:15] <krastavac> tts
[22:15] <reisio> ah
[22:15] <krastavac> text to speach
[22:15] <yosefh> OerHeks, Its just counter intuitive to me that the memory and CPU usage should be fine but that only the io should be affected if it were a memory issue. But Id try anything at this point and you seem to know what youre talking about
[22:15] <reisio> espeak or festival, I guess
[22:15] <tekeous> Elegance Colors is a GNOME shell theme: you trying to install it on Unity?
[22:15] <Mordoc_Mystery> L0g4nAd4ms, here's the only thing I could find and it's for 14.04: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-gnome-shell-elegance-colors-2-7-on-ubuntu-13-1013-0412-10-and-linux-mint-16151413/
[22:15] <reisio> or flite :p
[22:15] <prelude2004c> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".  ( unbuntu 16 ) ... i installed nvidia drivers NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-367.18.run .. nvidia drivers are up.. glx not supported.. both vdpauinfo and glxinfo report error
[22:15] <keh> Hi there. What nvidia version supports "Geforce FX Go5600" Chip? Or do I have to install an ubuntu 13.xx version and dist-upgrade with ignorable xorg*, nvidia* packages in apt-get ?  (Probably version nvidia 173 in ubuntu 13.10?)
[22:15] <prelude2004c> anyone ?
[22:16] <reisio> prelude2004c: got a xorg.conf?
[22:16] <prelude2004c> yup
[22:16] <reisio> prelude2004c: does the string 'glx' occur in it?
[22:16] <Kenrinx> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vala-team" should work with it l0g4nad4ms
[22:16] <L0g4nAd4ms> Kenrinx: It always says me that "gtk.h" is not found
[22:17] <prelude2004c> not a the moment.. at one point i had module "glx" but still didn't work
[22:17] <L0g4nAd4ms> well, i think there is some gtk package missing, since i realized this does not seems to be a vala error
[22:17] <prelude2004c> but i haven't seen it yet since the new version was installed
[22:17] <Mordoc_Mystery> L0g4nAd4ms, the PPA has the best chance. Otherwise I'd stalk the author out on their github page: https://github.com/satya164/elegance-colors
[22:20] <mundus2018> Im getting errors when I try to apt install php5 and php5-mysql
[22:21] <Mordoc_Mystery> mundus2018, What's the error message
 install bumblebee
[22:21] <mundus2018> Acctually figured out I can use 7
[22:22] <Kenrinx> libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk-3-dev should be all you need to compile
[22:22] <k1l_> uplink: prelude2004c bumbelbee is deprecated on ubuntu
[22:22] <reisio> prelude2004c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[22:23] <prelude2004c> going to try that link 1 by one
[22:24] <xCykrix> hey can anyone help me real quick?
[22:24] <k1l_> yosefh: what usb devices are connected?
[22:24] <reisio> nope
[22:24] <reisio> no one can
[22:24] <keh> What ubuntu / xorg version does work with nvidia geforce fx go5600 ? Is anywhere a list?
[22:24] <reisio> keh: on nvidia's website
[22:25] <reisio> or just use nouveau
[22:25] <L0g4nAd4ms> somebody know how to get "libgtk3-dev" ?
[22:25] <yosefh>  k1l_ if you're referring to the 3-3 spam, thats my audio device being stupid when i connect it
[22:25] <xCykrix> well i have this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/16877572/ | is there any way to get around that
[22:26] <reisio> L0g4nAd4ms: ask apt-file
[22:26] <yosefh> k1l_, is that why you asked?
[22:26] <k1l_> yosefh: yeah, ever tried without it?
[22:26] <reisio> xCykrix: what command did you run?
[22:26] <xCykrix> its trying to mount it to ubuntu and failing
[22:27] <yosefh> k1l_, I  often run without it plugged in. But I've never done a real test. Do you think that a audio device could cause io problems periodically
[22:27] <xCykrix> im just plugging in a usb with a HD connection
[22:27] <reisio> xCykrix: it's the answer to my question I want you to type
[22:27] <k1l_> yosefh: i just found some experiences with same issue who report they were caused by there usb devices. a test should do no harm.
[22:28] <reisio> xCykrix: you can mount it read only, as it suggests, or try ntfsfix, or fix it from Windows
[22:28] <k1l_> xCykrix: its the windows "feature" to not put its hdds into real shutdown but in hibernation to simulate a faster reboot time.
[22:28] <L0g4nAd4ms> reisio: yeah it is not in the sources ^^
[22:29] <Kenrinx> libgtk-3-dev isn't there ?
[22:29] <yosefh> k1l_, yeah, you never know
[22:29] <k1l_> xCykrix: in the long run you want to turn off that "feature" in windows to be able to use the hdds and not loos e any data
[22:29] <xCykrix> i knew it was a fastboot issue, i judt needed to get around it
[22:29] <NeedHelpNowPlz> are there any ubuntu genuises online?
[22:29] <yosefh> k1l_,  Ill leave it unplugged for a while and see if the issue goes away.
[22:29] <NeedHelpNowPlz> are there any ubuntu genuises online?
[22:29] <xCykrix> k1l_:  it wasnt my laptop so it wasnt disabled, but the HD is failing and i needed to get something off it
[22:30] <tgm4883> !help | NeedHelpNowPlz
[22:30] <NeedHelpNowPlz> hello?
[22:30] <reisio> L0g4nAd4ms: hrmm?
[22:30] <L0g4nAd4ms> Kenrinx: omg its libgtk-3-dev not libgtk3-dev ^
[22:30] <Kenrinx> Yeah I said that before =)
[22:30] <L0g4nAd4ms> naming conventions ftw
[22:30] <reisio> in the long run, pick one OS to use
[22:31] <reisio> L0g4nAd4ms: when you're searching for things, it can help to search for partial string matches
[22:31] <L0g4nAd4ms> yeah sorry i am still used to pacman
[22:31] <frostythesnowman> hi, i'm trying to upgrade my packages on trusty, but I'm getting the following error when I run sudo apt-get upgrade.  does anyone know how i can fix thsi? The following packages have unmet dependencies: postgresql-contrib-9.3 : Depends: postgresql-9.3 (= 9.3.13-0ubuntu0.14.04) but 9.3.12-0ubuntu0.14.04 is installed
[22:32] <reisio> L0g4nAd4ms: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta
[22:32] <NeedHelpNowPlz> my ubuntu 16.04 desktop is stuck in a weird loop. Problem: it is stuck at the "dev/sda1: clean, 261938/4759552 files, 6501735/19013632 blocks" part. please help. what do i do
[22:33] <NeedHelpNowPlz> my ubuntu 16.04 desktop is stuck in a weird loop. Problem: it is stuck at the "dev/sda1: clean, 261938/4759552 files, 6501735/19013632 blocks" part. please help. what do i do. my computer is off at the moment.
[22:33] <L0g4nAd4ms> reisio: ah good that such a site exists
[22:33] <NeedHelpNowPlz> my ubuntu 16.04 desktop is stuck in a weird loop. Problem: it is stuck at the "dev/sda1: clean, 261938/4759552 files, 6501735/19013632 blocks" part. please help. what do i do. my computer is off at the moment.
[22:34] <tgm4883> !patience | NeedHelpNowPlz
[22:34] <hazrpg> Hey everyone, just wondering if anyone knows how I can solve a problem with a blank screen after the splash screen (nvidia optimus).
[22:34] <k1l_> xCykrix: ntfsfix is the command to use
[22:35] <prelude2004c> guys i just tried and it didn't work
[22:35] <prelude2004c> :(
[22:36] <keh> frostythesnowman: try sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install --reinstall postgresql-9.3 ...before upgrading your system.
[22:36] <keh> frostythesnowman: maybe just postgresql
[22:36] <Kellerman> hello i've customized a iso of ubuntu, but it boot fine only under Mac, in a PC i've got this error "(initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed"
[22:36] <NeedHelpNowPlz> are there any ubuntu geeks i can pm?
[22:37] <tgm4883> NeedHelpNowPlz: if someone knows the answer to your question, they will respond here
[22:37] <yellowman243> My friend is trying to set up a dual boot, problem is during install alongside windows it just freezes on an orange bar and just says 'searching file system'
[22:37] <hazrpg> I don't know if it'll help, but I dual-boot two copies of Ubuntu (one mainly for testing the latest ubuntu - but they're both on 16.04 currently) - one works fine and the other doesn't (i.e. blank screen) - is there any way I can figure out what config needs changing? I diff'ed xorg.conf and they are the same, but possibly there are other files I can check against?
[22:37] <yellowman243> Is this an error?
[22:38] <frostythesnowman> hi keh, when i run that command i get this error which i don't understand either: https://gist.github.com/boxbeatsy/e039a0717ba05b1c878ae567cb398da2
[22:38] <keh> hazrpg: check differences in the xorg.conf.d folder.
[22:38] <xCykrix> k1l_: how do i find where its stored at? media isnt showing it
[22:39] <k1l_> xCykrix: dont run it on /media run it on /dev/sdXY.
[22:39] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | hazrpg Boot to a degraded GUI with ? :
[22:39] <xCykrix> just saw that when i did the command it showed /dev/ as a dir
[22:40] <xCykrix> thank you bunches k1l_ :D
[22:40] <keh> frostythesnowman: "invoke-rc.d: initscript postgresql, action "stop" failed." <- In your thing. You have to manually stop postgresql server and try again.
[22:41] <keh> frostythesnowman: It seems that postgresql init script is broken.
[22:42] <frostythesnowman> keh: hmmm, when i try to manually stop postgresql with /etc/init.dpostgresql stop it fails.
[22:42] <frostythesnowman> keh: could i manually fix the postgresql init script? everything was working until i ran apt-get upgrade.  i wonder if there's a way to just reverse my upgrade?
[22:43] <nacc> frostythesnowman: you could try backing to the version just prior `apt-get install postgres-pkgname=version`; `apt-cache policy <pkgname>` may tell you what version strings are available
[22:43] <keh> Another option could be to disable the postgre init script and reboot? Then it shouldn't be started and any files in /var shouldn't appear which would confuse a reinstalled postgresql.
[22:45] <frostythesnowman> keh: i see.  how would i go about disabling the postgres init script?
[22:45] <hazrpg> keh: I don't appear to have that folder in etc
[22:46] <keh> frostythesnowman: https://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[22:46] <tgm4883> NeedHelpNowPlz: Don't PM people unless they specifically say you can
[22:46] <effectnet> i cant get system-config-samba to work on 16.04, is it cuz of version?
[22:46] <NeedHelpNowPlz> oh
[22:46] <frostythesnowman> keh: ty
[22:46] <snfgf> How do I find where my linker is searching for libraries and add a location?
[22:46] <snfgf> (using ld)
[22:47] <keh> hazrpg: Check differences in whole /etc/X11 folder on each sys
[22:47] <keh> *between
[22:47] <Kenrinx> effectnet: did you gksudo?
[22:48] <Kenrinx> Er gksu
[22:48] <effectnet> no i will try that
[22:48] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: will that not roll me back to intel instead of nvidia? I recall trying that and it works but doesn't fix using the nvidia card
[22:49] <hazrpg> keh: I'll give that a try.
[22:49] <hammer25> Hi guys, i'm running ubuntu 16.04 in a virtualbox VM on windows 10. For some reason, there are only two (very small) resolutions available
[22:49] <hammer25> does anyone know how to set it to 1920x1080?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> hammer25: Did you install the virtualbox guest additions?
[22:49] <effectnet> that worked but it asking me for pw to root account
[22:50] <hammer25> probably not, lol. first timer. where would i go to do that?
[22:50] <effectnet> do i have a root account?
[22:50] <nacc> snfgf: usually it's defined in /etc/ld.so.conf*
[22:51] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: "nomodeset" disables KMS such that the fall back driver is loaded . Many time them one can load the proprietary driver properly from the "Additional Frivers " utility . reboot and all could be good ??
[22:53] <effectnet> hmm i get this error now heh:        SystemError: could not open configuration file `/etc/libuser.conf': No such file or directory
[22:53] <xCykrix> yay for hard drive being offically done
[22:53] <xCykrix> 340gb hd ded
[22:53] <xCykrix> wont boot on windows, barely loads on linux
[22:54] <kenrin> effectnet: sudo touch /etc/libuser.conf
[22:54] <effectnet> thx
[22:54] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: I've already tried reinstalling all the drivers availble (terminal and gui), even tried purging to see if the configs were the issue... no luck there...
[22:54] <Jordan_U> hammer25: I can't double check the official Ubuntu documentation at the moment due to only having a dialup connection, but I believe you can just install the package virtualbox-guest-utils . It's still a good idea to check the official ubuntu documentation / the Ubuntu Wiki to see what they recommend doing.
[22:55] <kenrin> Once you get it configured log out and in or reboot and you can launch from the dashboard
[22:55] <hammer25> Jordan_U: i'll check it out, thanks
[22:56] <Jordan_U> hammer25: You're welcome.
[22:56] <Jordan_U> effectnet: You do not have a password for the root account, and you shouldn't have one as you shouldn't be logging in as root.
[22:57] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: Has my interest . what are we working with ? ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' . Be aware that I am working 2 other instances elsewhere .. seems headers are the issues in these other 2 .
[22:58] <effectnet> oh
[22:58] <effectnet> system-config-samba asks for root password
[22:58] <Jordan_U> effectnet: What is the exact message?
[22:59] <kenrin> I just know it had that bug since 15.04
[22:59] <kenrin> Where you need to gksu to launch it
[22:59] <hazrpg> keh: Tried diffing, all the important files seem to be identical, the broken one just has extra back xorg.conf files (e.g. xorg.conf.xxxxxxxx - where x is a bunch of numbers) - also /etc/X11/Xsession.d/65snappy is different, but the diff shows that the broken install one has a patch applied to fix a bug (the broken ubuntu has been fully patched, but has been broken from day one since upgrading from 14.04)
[22:59] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: sure one moment :)
[22:59] <effectnet> i wonder how to enter a username into the dialog
[23:00] <reisio> whoami
[23:00] <FoolishDave> So whenever I try and do anything that requires a GPU, if I have my integrated graphics on, my comp locks up, but if I have my 970M on, everything works fine.
[23:01] <effectnet> oh thx, it's just this sytem-config-samba access dialog where you enter a users name is not working, or at least i dont understand it
[23:01] <Jordan_U> effectnet: Please poste the exact wording of the dialog that is asking for a password. You should be able to copy and paste the message.
[23:02] <Jordan_U> effectnet: Or post a screenshot.
[23:02] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/16878294
[23:02] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | effectnet
[23:02] <effectnet> ok let me do something first
[23:03] <keh> hazrpg: Did you revert any PPA before doing a release upgrade? The upgrade will not succeed if maybe third sources where involved.
[23:03] <Bashing-om> FoolishDave: With the integrated chip in use, can you boot to a terminal and see in the config file ' /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' which driver is in use ?
[23:03] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: :) .. look'n and comparing .
[23:03] <FoolishDave> Bashing-om: I'm running the discrete card atm, so I'll have to log out and back in, I'll be right back
[23:04] <hazrpg> keh: I didn't no - however, the problem existed on both installs of ubuntu - I fixed one, using answers available on askubuntu, but the same fixes aren't working on my main one
[23:04] <effectnet> ok i got it fixed Jordan_U , thank you though
[23:05] <keh> hazrpg: mmh, same systems? or is one gpu a mobility one?
[23:05] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: Have you installed the 361 version driver ? http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/103306/en-us .
[23:06] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: yes I have
[23:07] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: what am I looking for in the Xorg.conf file?
[23:07] <hazrpg> keh: Both on the same system, /dev/sda1 is my main install - for programming/work/etc, /dev/sda8 is my second install I use for testing out new versions of ubuntu, it just so happens they're both 16.04 now. Main was 14.04 -> 16.04, secondary 15.10 -> 16.04.
[23:08] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: A look at what X thinks . paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log log file, please .
[23:09] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: I've tried all the version that are available in the official repo (terminal and the gui: restricted drivers)
[23:09] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: sure, one moment
[23:10] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/16878495
[23:11] <keh> is anyone using ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa ?
[23:11] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: That's the Xorg.0.log that is broken, I'll pastebin the working one for you (I have the other parition mounted).
[23:11] <Bashing-om> FoolishDave_: in the section "ServerLayout" is Inactive "nvidia" present ?
[23:12] <scythefwd> any cups guru's in here?
[23:12] <scythefwd> or even cups users lol.. just looking for an understanding
[23:12] <Slop__> Hi, does anyone know python pretty well (specifically scraping) and could gimme a hand real quick? :3
[23:12] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/16878544 - working partition
[23:12] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: will read also the broken one .. see what we can glean .
[23:12] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: There actually isn't a xorg.conf file present anymore. There are two xorg.conf.[date] files, but none for current :/
[23:13] <scythefwd> open.. some times.. some times
[23:13] <genii> keh: Yes. But also as the page there describes, the ppa: graphics-drivers/ppa  for nvidia/amd proprietary drivers now
[23:13] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: there was one when I was running the 970m, and Inactive "intel" was present
[23:13] <hazrpg> keh: I use to, several years ago, but I ended up with an unstable install - things would break every few weeks after updates
[23:13] <genii> keh: ( which have now been split off from the main xorg-edgers ppa )
[23:15] <keh> didnt know that genii, thanks.  /  yeah hazrpg, does not work here either. Mh.
[23:15] <scythefwd> anyone know of a cups support forum that isnt all bots?
[23:15] <scythefwd> the one on this server has been idle for like 20 hours
[23:17] <effectnet> do i want wins server?  i cant see the samba share from win7
[23:18] <scythefwd> is it shared so that everyone has permissions, or can you not even touch the system?
[23:18] <effectnet> i shared it so everyone has permissions for now
[23:18] <scythefwd> so you cant even see it
[23:19] <effectnet> in win7, i tyep in the ip address of the samba and i dont see it
[23:19] <scythefwd> wait.. I had that backwards, you're sharing to a win 7 box, not from?
[23:19] <hazrpg> keh: What problem are you trying to solve?
[23:19] <effectnet> i am trying to share to a win7 yes
[23:20] <scythefwd> wins shouldnt be required.. all that is is netbios
[23:20] <Bashing-om> FoolishDave_: Right, and when you switch graphics sets, the config file gets switched ( supposed to !) now booting with  Intel  .. one should see "nvidia" as the inactive set .
[23:20] <effectnet> k
[23:20] <scythefwd> you should be able to directly connect via IP and see what is shared.. in theory
[23:20] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: so what should I do since there doesn't seem to be a config there?
[23:20] <keh> hazrpg: To get any working and usable ubuntu version for an old laptop with nvidia FX Go5600 gpu. Probably ubuntu 12.xx, but trying to solve it with these ppa's.
[23:21] <effectnet> hmmk
[23:21] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: should I generate one with sudo X -configure?
[23:21] <scythefwd> your samba is running?
[23:21] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: Scratching my head on the broken log file info " 41.535] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "NULL" >>> 2002.622] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "NULL" " do not know what to make of this .
[23:21] <scythefwd> and you dont have any fw in the way?
[23:21] <keh> Currently testing ubuntu 14.04 with some working xorg / nvidia 173 drivers.
[23:22] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: I believe that line is showing on the working one too...
[23:24] <Bashing-om> FoolishDave_: Ouch .. Not at all sure what to do . When you swirch graphics sets .. the config file should be switched out . IF the Intel cinfig file  is not there I do not know what to advise you exactly .
[23:24] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: alright I'll keep messing with it
[23:24] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: Reading the good one att .
[23:24] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: Cool, thanks. :)
[23:24] <scythefwd> well folks, I'm off to find a different net .. maybe I can find some info on cups there, enjoy
[23:25] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: The bits I find interesting is the good one has "modeset(G0):" which I can only assume is the display, but I don't know what causes it or how to find out.
[23:27] <effectnet> thanks once again :D things working here
[23:34] <hazrpg> keh: Are none of them working?
[23:34] <hazrpg> keh: I assume you can at least load the cd/usb to install, but is the issue once it is installed?
[23:39] <pentiumone133> if i have a box with an aliased NIC (so eth0:1 in addition to eth0) can i  ifdown eth0 without taking down eth0:1 ?
[23:44] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: Working has "  25.271] (II) modeset(G0): using drv /dev/dri/card0 " broken has no modeset(G0): .. still looking at things .
[23:46] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: More .. broken does not find the display !
[23:49] <cosmicfires> where do I set my default web browser in xfce?
[23:49] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: interesting... anything we can do to fix that?