[17:43] <halvors1> Hi!
[17:44] <halvors1> May you guys please fix this buig for Ubuntu 12.04? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1013597
[17:44] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1013597 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Precise) "No default route for stateful DHCPv6" [Low,Triaged]
[17:48] <penguin42> well it's listed as a task open for 12.04 and it is assigned to Stephane, but on 'low'
[17:49] <penguin42> halvors1: I think it's low because there is a 3 line work around in there
[17:50] <halvors1> Doesn't work for me :(
[17:50] <penguin42> ah, hnmm - I don't know enough about IPv6 to help explain why
[17:50] <halvors1> And it seems to be fixed in 13.04, why not 12.04 too?
[17:52] <penguin42> halvors1: Well it always gets fixed in dev first and then backported
[17:53] <penguin42> halvors1: Of course they're always got to be a little careful not to break more than it fixes - and I think the fact that it says there's an apparently easy workaround means it's not too important
[17:53] <penguin42> halvors1: You could ask on that bug what to do if that work around doesn't work
[17:54] <halvors1> Could someone here look into it?
[17:55] <penguin42> this is mostly triage of bugs, not actual fixing - and I wouldn't normally change the priority on a bug that was already triaged and assigned to someone
[17:57] <halvors1> :(
[17:58] <halvors1> I wanna use Ubuntu on my server, but seems like i'll not be able to :(
[18:00] <penguin42> halvors1: I'd ask on the bug and say that the work around in the title isn't working for you and see what happens
[18:00] <penguin42> halvors1: Show the config you're using
[18:01] <penguin42> halvors1: You could also try #ubuntu-server
[19:31] <lapsa> im experiencing frequent system crash http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fZfBmH2P can anyone tell me what to look for? what might be the cause?
[19:31] <lapsa> running ubuntu 13.04


[12:36] <jake> hey all
[12:37] <jake> anyone here that can help me to install a nvidia driver on ubuntu 6.10
[12:37] <PriceChild> jake, this isn't #ubuntu
[12:37] <jake> the graphics driver is 7300 gt pci-e 256mb ddr 2
[12:37] <PriceChild> !proxy | jake
[12:37] <ubotu> jake: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[12:37] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[12:38] <PriceChild> But if you want the nvidia driver... see the pm from ubotu :)
[12:38] <nalioth> PriceChild: how about !tell NICK about FACTOID ?
[12:38] <jake> thank you greatly
[12:39] <PriceChild> Sorry will do that with !proxy next time too.
[12:39] <nalioth> PriceChild: that was what i was hinting at . . .
[12:39] <gnomefreak> i think !pricechild is <alias> proxy is a good idea ;)
[12:41] <apokryphos> nalioth: wanna try to get the Bugtracker going with ubot3 quickly now?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> ubot3?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> what happened to 1 and 2?
[12:45] <apokryphos> ubot3 will be the ubotu alternative
[12:45] <apokryphos> also loading it up with Ubugtu capabilities now
[12:45] <gnomefreak> cool
[12:45] <gnomefreak> ljl's bot died?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> come to think of it i havent seen him around
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> LjL's on vacation still I thought.
[12:46] <gnomefreak> oh
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> in the Alps
[12:46] <gnomefreak> noce
[12:48] <gnomefreak> nice
[12:48] <nalioth> gnomefreak: ubotu is the first, ubotwo is the second
[12:48] <gnomefreak> makes sense :)
[12:48] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:22] <jake> hi
[02:22] <jake> im so confused
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> !proxy | jake, Azoth
[02:23] <ubotu> jake, Azoth: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[02:23] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> That should clear it up.
[02:24] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: can we do !tell NICK about proxy  (we're getting a lot of spammination in here)
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Sure thing.
[02:24] <jake> hi
[02:24] <jake> im confuse
[02:24] <jake> confused
[02:24] <jake> am i doing something rong here?
[02:24] <jake> i got on a irc at work
[02:25] <nalioth> jake: you are using a cgi gateway to use irc.  we do not allow folks on cgi gateways in #ubuntu
[02:25] <jake> oh ok
[02:25] <jake> can u make a exception
[02:25] <jake> lol
[02:25] <jake> because im on linux
[02:25] <jake> and i dont know how to get on irc other than here
[02:25] <jake> sry
[02:25] <jake> and i need help
[02:26] <jake> im wasting my time trying to do it on my own
[02:26] <PriceChild> jake, If you're on ubuntu have you tried using gaim? Its pre-installed.
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> jake: You could get a project cloak to use at work as well.
[02:26] <jake> yea
[02:26] <jake> whats this server
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> jake: irc.freenode.net
[02:26] <PriceChild> jake, irc.freenode.net 8001
[02:26] <jake> what one?
[02:26] <nalioth> PriceChild: he'll still be using the cgi gateway
[02:27] <nalioth> jake: they're both the same
[02:27] <zortog_> is this for helpin ubuntu?
[02:27] <nalioth> !tell zortog_ about proxy
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> zortog_: See your msg from ubotu.
[02:27] <PriceChild> nalioth, I suggested gaim... thought he was going to connect using that?
[02:28] <nalioth> PriceChild: he'd still be locked out at his work
[02:29] <zortog_> hello, i have two problems... 1. when i use the boot iso i burned my screen gets all freaked out after it loads when i click install or run
[02:29] <nalioth> zortog_: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:29] <zortog_> kk
[02:30] <PriceChild> nalioth, I guess I mis-understood. I read it as he had managed to get on irc at work, but at home he can't as he didn't know how and so just used ircatwork...
[02:31] <jake> so
[02:31] <nalioth> PriceChild: i'm confused to, he said he was at work
[02:31] <jake> no
[02:31] <jake> im at the site
[02:31] <jake> ircatwork.com
[02:31] <nalioth> jake: your xchat should be configured to automatically connect to us here
[02:32] <jake> ok
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> (Did Edgy have XChat?)
[02:32] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: um, yes.  it's irssi they let go from the default
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Ah.  It's not in Feisty, so I couldn't remember.
[02:34] <PriceChild> !proxy > Flaky (see the message from ubotu)
[02:35] <Flaky> Can someone help me my school blocks IRC and I need to use IRC@work to connect to the support channel
[02:36] <nalioth> Flaky: are you at school now?
[02:36] <Flaky> yes at college
[02:36] <nalioth> Flaky: tried using port 8001 ?
[02:36] <Flaky> Yes I am at college
[02:38] <Flacky> Yes I am at college right now
[02:39] <gnomefreak> gaim is the only irc or any chat client installed by default now :(
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> It's sickening
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> Flacky: but have you tried the alternate port?
[02:41] <Flacky> Yes they use traffic shaping
[03:00] <malt> apokryphos hey i was never banned from offtopic? and the reason my name was different was because i was letting another person use my pc
[03:01] <malt> and irc chat name was different
[03:01] <malt> As far as i know the ban was mainly set for #ubuntu
[03:01] <malt> its been a month so can we please unban? And the ban was not all my fault.
[04:02] <effie_jayx> is jenda ever comming back :S
[04:03] <nalioth> effie_jayx: let jenda enjoy his vacation
[04:03] <nalioth> he'll be back soon enough
[04:03] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  is that an equvalent to... "Don't summon him" ? :D
[04:04] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  no stick of doom?
[04:05] <nalioth> effie_jayx: speak of the devil?
[04:06] <effie_jayx> :D
[04:07] <Hobbsee> you cant.
[04:07] <effie_jayx> :S
[04:10] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  what happens to people that are poked with the long and point stick of doom then :S
[04:15] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: DOOM occurs!
[04:16] <effie_jayx> :S
[04:16] <effie_jayx> Doom it is then :S
[05:31] <ware> there is no spoon?
[05:31] <Jucato> O.o
[05:31] <kgoetz> ...
[06:06] <Mez> tonyyarusso, not got your site up yet?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Mez: Had to figure out how to do database transfer - working on it right now actually.
[06:06] <Mez> :D
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Plus, the machine with the old DB wasn't plugged in until Monday ;)
[06:07] <Mez> tonyyarusso, see /msg
[08:08] <mneptok> dum dee dee
[08:09] <Mez|OnAir> mneptok listen in :D
[08:13] <mneptok> URL?
[08:14] <Mez|OnAir> http://www.gamerpowered.com
[08:15] <elkbuntu> menptok read up: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/20/197251 :
[08:15] <Mez|OnAir> mneptok - links on the left - or http://www.gamerpowered.com/listen.pls to type into your prefferred player
[08:17] <mneptok> elkbuntu: already been done. and i replied to a comment.
[08:19] <elkbuntu> :)
[08:20] <elkbuntu> haha.. mum was keeping an eye out for it, she just congratulated me
[08:23] <mneptok> oh, Rammstein.
[08:24] <pavs> hi i got banned from ubuntu, i am new with bitchx and i typed /ping and i guess i got banned for that.
[08:24] <mneptok> i.e. Laibach for teens
[08:24] <pavs> can anyone unban me?
[08:25] <mneptok> pavs: what did you think /ping would do? what were you trying to do?
[08:25] <pavs> i wanted to see if i had lag, i didnt know it would ping everyone.
[08:26] <mneptok> ah, i see.
[08:27] <pavs> still new with bitchx/linux poking things around. I guess you learn from your mistakes.
[08:27] <mneptok> pavs: while i unban you, grab this script for bx. it only affects layout, and makes things much more legible.
[08:27] <mneptok> http://www.holoweb.net/~liam/ftp/ankh.bx/
[08:28] <mneptok> by Liam Quin (of the W3C) http://www.holoweb.net/~liam/bx/
[08:28] <nalioth> mneptok: why not advise a more friendly (to everyone) irc client?  >> irssi
[08:28] <pavs> i want to be geek thats why i want bx :)
[08:28] <mneptok> nalioth: i have no idea why (s)he made the client choice. recommending a new client is last on the laundry list.
[08:29] <pavs> i use konversation, when i cant get my way around, by the way i am he. do I run the script frm bx. or just execute it from terminal?
[08:31] <mneptok> pavs: from inside BX. /eval load /path/to/ankh.bx
[08:31] <pavs> kools
[08:31] <mneptok> *much* more readable.
[08:32] <mneptok> you should be good to go in #ubuntu
[08:33] <pavs> tnx. I see the differance even though I got an error:
[08:33] <pavs>  mishap: Your ankh.bx script is not installed properly:
[08:33] <pavs>           mishap: The file /home/pavs/.BitchX/ankh/themes/plain.bx isn't there, of you don't have permission to read it... check ANKHDIR is set properly in
[08:33] <pavs>                  the script.
[08:33] <pavs> oops
[08:33] <pavs> sorry
[08:36] <mneptok> you may need to move the folder the script came in to ~/.BitchX
[08:36] <pavs> i get it the script expected a .Bitchx directory, so all I have to do is create one and put the script inside the directory and execute it.
[08:36] <pavs> got it
[08:45] <uberpavs> still banned from ubuntu...
[08:46] <uberpavs> wy is my nick pavs still there :) I disconnected it
[08:46] <mneptok> try now
[08:47] <mneptok> you need to /quit BX if you're in a screen
[08:48] <mneptok>  /quit
[08:48] <mneptok> ;)
[08:48] <mneptok> and that's the end of that chapter.
[09:24] <mneptok> it's true.
[09:24] <mneptok> most web CGI clients are banned from #ubuntu*
[09:24] <cbx33> heh
[09:25] <mneptok> got Java?
[09:26] <cbx33> yeh
[09:26] <cbx33> the ISP here at the school have blocked everything
[09:26] <mneptok> http://jirc.hick.org/cgi-bin/launch.jnlp?irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
[09:26] <mneptok> oh.
[09:26] <mneptok> munh
[09:27] <cbx33> does that use port 6667?
[09:27] <cbx33> or another irc port?
[09:27] <mneptok> http://jirc.hick.org/cgi-bin/launch.jnlp?irc://irc.freenode.net:8001/ubuntu
[09:27] <mneptok> try that ^^
[09:27] <cbx33> checing for latest version..................
[09:27] <mneptok> (i <3 jIRCii) :)
[09:28] <cbx33> heh
[09:28] <cbx33> I usually live in IRC but had accepted that I couldn't use it
[09:28] <cbx33> however my laptop today did something strange in ubuntu
[09:28] <cbx33> I can't log in in gnome
[09:29] <mneptok> terminal?
[09:29] <nalioth> cbx33: join #ubuntu-offtopic and try there please
[09:29] <nalioth> this is not a support channel for gateway users
[09:29] <cbx33> sorry nalioth wasn't looking for support here
[09:29] <mneptok> cbx33: that JNLP work for you?
[09:29] <cbx33> nah
[09:29] <cbx33> it'll use a blocked port
[09:29] <elkbuntu> irssi doesnt require gnome
[09:30] <mneptok> 8001?
[09:30] <cbx33> blocked
[09:30] <cbx33> elkbuntu: true
[09:30] <cbx33> anyone here in offtopic?
[09:30] <elkbuntu> many of us
[09:32] <nalioth> cbx33: um, your cloak is not being applied in time
[09:32] <nalioth> that is why you are coming in here, i'd assume
[09:33] <cbx33> yeh
[09:33] <cbx33> i realised that
[09:33] <cbx33> that's why I identified
[09:35] <nalioth> i suggest you have your client ''wait'' after identifying to join channels
[09:35] <nalioth> your Ubuntu cloak overrides gateway cloaks
[11:24] <ubotu> In ubotu, HymnToLife said: no rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous - !kde users can also use !kpackage to handle them).
[12:16] <mneptok> holycow: we're livin' the dream, baby.
[12:16] <mneptok> sigh.
[12:17] <Hobbsee> hey mneptok
[12:21] <mneptok> GAR!
[12:23] <Hobbsee> ARRRR!
[12:23] <elkbuntu> what. the. f
[12:24] <Myrtti> /me shows people the pink oven mitten
[12:24] <mneptok> hawt
[12:25] <Myrtti> hrmhmph
[12:25] <mneptok> ... into a POINTY STICK OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!11!!!!one!!!!
[12:25] <Myrtti> sick little bastards
[01:05] <malt> apokryphos you there?
[01:05] <malt> I didn't evade though i used same host?
[01:05] <malt> Like i said someone else used my PC?
[01:05] <malt> and my perform is set to try to join #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:06] <malt> but it still showed me banned from #ubuntu
[01:06] <malt> So i didn't even try to join that channel
[01:07] <malt> So can we drop this and unban?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> malt: he stated 05:08 <      apokryphos+> malt: no, you were bannned in -offtopic as well. And  please please do not attempt to justify your ban in  any way. That is the one thing that will only  prevent you from getting unbanned.
[01:08] <malt> what?
[01:08] <malt> I just asked can i be unbanned?
[01:09] <malt> What's wrong with that? Isn't this the channel for it?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> in the comment above you tried yet again to justify the ban
[01:09] <malt> I am only asking
[01:09] <malt> is all
[01:09] <malt> its been months
[01:10] <malt> you would be the same way
[01:10] <gnomefreak> malt: IMHO bugging apokryphos about the ban will not help you. i would wait for him to remove it. he hasnt forgot about it
[01:10] <Hobbsee> it has been over a month since the original offense
[01:10] <gnomefreak> malt: it hasnt been amonth yet
[01:11] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: its been a month now?
[01:11] <malt> Its been since last december
[01:11] <gnomefreak> malt: for some reason i could swear it was end of jan.
[01:11] <malt> might have been first of jan
[01:11] <Hobbsee> [Fri Jan 19 2007]  [23:01:43]  <malt> watch me evade
[01:12] <gnomefreak> i know it was after jan 12 because i didnt get home until the 15thish
[01:12] <Hobbsee> [Sun Jan 21 2007]  [23:29:20]  <malt> I changed nick and it let me in, can you can unban the nick?
[01:12] <Hobbsee> the main thing was on the 19th
[01:12] <Hobbsee> he was unbanned for a bit on the 21st, iirc.
[01:12] <malt> yeah thats over a month
[01:14] <gnomefreak> this is one ban that i will not remove without apokryphos input. due to the offense but that is just me
[01:15] <gnomefreak> i == me personally
[01:17] <malt> and when i did get unbanned other admins thought it was suppose to be banned and would set it again
[01:18] <Hobbsee> [23:07]  <Hobbsee> yes.  after mroe discussions, i agreed with them.  see, what happens on other irc servers does not relate to freenode, and if people go to another irc server, with no affiliation with a project, by admission, or by hostmask, then they're not bound by the rules of the project.
[01:18] <Hobbsee> [23:07]  <Hobbsee> you had your chance to deal with the stuff on your irc server - klining the people off it, etc.  and you chose not to.
[01:18] <Hobbsee> there was logic behind it
[01:18] <elkbuntu> malt, you were incredibly rude and abusive when the ban was initially placed, then you ban evaded, then ruined a chance to prove yourself. your ban is neither simple nor unwarranted and there is not a whole lot of trust for your behaviour.
[01:18] <malt> I was sick bad and ill and i got spammed and come back on is all
[01:19] <malt> Can't i get another chance?
[01:22] <malt> It's been a month and i haven't evaded. I need to ask some questions in #ubuntu to and i have tryed my hardest not to evade, or make sure no proxys was on.
[01:23] <gnomefreak> seeing as this ban is not straight forward and kind of complicated i doubt someone will just remove it without checking with apokryphos. So your best bet would be to wait for him (he did tell you yesterday iirc that it wasnt being lifted for a while.
[01:23] <gnomefreak> )*
[01:24] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: can we make a pool for that? ;)
[01:24] <gnomefreak> s/make/start
[01:24] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: a pool?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> a betting pool
[01:25] <gnomefreak> everyone bets on how long and whatever is in the pot the winners get it
[01:25] <Hobbsee> ah
[01:26] <gnomefreak> is LP down again or just slow?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> apport-retrace is taking forever to get info from bug report :( its been running for 30 minutes and hasnt started retracing yet
[01:45] <Jucato> gnomefreak: there was an announcement that LP will be down
[01:46] <gnomefreak> Jucato: it came up after that
[01:46] <Jucato> ah.
[01:46] <gnomefreak> 1-2 hours ago it came back up
[01:46] <gnomefreak> but wondering if it got shut down again
[01:56] <malt> Hobbsee you know it was not all my fault. I doubt i get banned again, unless a admin adds it back again for the same old stuff.
[02:30] <apokryphos> malt: for one, we did say "come back in a *few* (3-4) months to get this situation revisited
[02:30] <malt> I didn't see that, when was this?
[02:30] <apokryphos> and secondly, like I said, trying to maintain that you weren't in the wrong is only going to make us more hesitant on ever lifting your ban
[02:30] <apokryphos> when you originally appealed
[02:32] <malt> I was in the wrong, very much so and so was a few others. I was played and i fell in the trap to get banned.
[02:32] <apokryphos> your actions were completely inexcusable, yes.
[02:33] <malt> They knew if they spammed me that i would get mad and i did, so i evaded to come back to see why they did it.
[02:33] <malt> And i am sorry i did that.
[02:33] <malt> I was even DDoS Attacked, i mean wow.
[02:33] <apokryphos> ...
[02:35] <apokryphos> if you come back in a couple of months we might revisit your status on the channels, as it is now, I have no inclination to lift your ban, for the various reasons out there
[02:35] <elkbuntu> malt, it was not a DDoS attack
[02:36] <malt> elkbuntu: yes it was a port flood and they admited to it and i got clone flooded.
[02:36] <malt> I guess though they don't care about there admin's actions.
[02:36] <elkbuntu> malt, it was a single nmap as a last resort to stopping you as there were no other ways at the time
[02:36] <gnomefreak> isnt DDoS a server attack not so much personal
[02:36] <malt> It was illegal and wrong.
[02:36] <malt> I did wrong to.
[02:36] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, it's dozens of servers attacking
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:37] <elkbuntu> malt, no it wasnt. you're nmapped reguarly just by being on the internet
[02:37] <malt> So if we both did wrong, why can't we just forgive me :(
[02:38] <elkbuntu> malt, your ports receive superficial scans just by being on IRC
[02:38] <malt> I really need to ask some questions to about my server in #ubuntu and i have not dared ment or tryed to evade to get in #ubuntu
[02:38] <apokryphos> (i) these other actions weren't on Freenode, and (ii) even if anyone else did anything wrong, it really wouldn't justify your actions
[02:38] <elkbuntu> malt, if you're that desperate, try ubuntuforums.org
[02:41] <apokryphos> does anyone have a log of malt's original appeal where I/we told him "come back in a few months"? I don't have access to mine.
[02:41] <elkbuntu> apokryphos, date?
[02:42] <apokryphos> I really don't know actually, though perhaps I can find out
[02:42] <apokryphos> @btlogin
[02:42] <gnomefreak> no but i remember something along those lines
[02:45] <apokryphos> [13:46:04]  <malt> You know why.   I WILL EVADE AND USE ANOTHER IDENT FROM NOW ON.
[02:45] <apokryphos> [13:46:12]  <malt> Bye.
[02:45] <apokryphos> riiiiiight. This guy is not getting unbanned :)
[02:46] <apokryphos> some people just don't change....
[02:47] <elkbuntu> was that in PM just now?
[02:47] <apokryphos> yeah
[02:47] <elkbuntu> report to a freenode staffer. pm harassment :)
[02:47] <apokryphos> he was appealing in PM, then that..
[02:49] <GazzaK> apokryphos, he seems like a lovely bloke
[02:50] <apokryphos> not so charming =)
[02:50] <GazzaK> i'd love to meet him in a pub, thrilling convo
[02:50] <elkbuntu> he's been in and out of #ubuntu alot actually according to my logs for february, various hosts but with the nicks malt and maltz
[02:51] <elkbuntu> Feb 05 07:02:01 *       maltz<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[02:51] <elkbuntu> Feb 05 07:02:33 <maltz> sup
[02:51] <elkbuntu> Feb 05 07:41:24 *       maltz has quit (":o DID I JUST QUIT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?")
[02:51] <apokryphos> hm, I see malt is banned, but not malt*. Fixing.
[02:52] <elkbuntu> bubbz and bubbtz seem to be other nicks for him
[02:52] <apokryphos> banning it too
[02:53] <elkbuntu> Feb 08 14:49:36 *       maltz<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[02:53] <elkbuntu> Feb 16 19:43:58 *       maltz<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu
[02:53] <elkbuntu> Feb 20 13:47:27 *       maltz<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[02:53] <elkbuntu> are other hosts
[02:54] <elkbuntu> wtf is this kid's definition of ban evasion if he doesnt consider this so?
[02:54] <apokryphos> [13:40:53]  <malt> I did wrong, and I took a while of a ban and I have not even attempted to evade even though i know how to.
[02:54] <apokryphos> ..despite him saying that
[02:54] <apokryphos> he really just can't be trusted
[02:55] <elkbuntu> precisely
[02:56] <elkbuntu> the feb 05 ones are your proof it is actually him though
[05:59] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, skywalker said: !microsoft is a virus
[06:36] <Seveas> nalioth, prod
[08:08] <ubotu> In #ubuntuforums, beniwtv said: !!!! compiz is working !!!!
[08:10] <maxamillion> PriceChild: hiya pricey
[08:10] <PriceChild> hey maxamillion
[08:11] <PriceChild> how goes?
[08:12] <beuno> hey, I'm set as a channel's contact, and I want to remove access from someone who I added with the same ammount as me (30)
[08:12] <beuno> how can I do that?  (chanserv doesn't really like me doing that)
[08:13] <apokryphos> beuno: what channel?
[08:13] <beuno> #ubuntu-ar
[08:13] <apokryphos> what's the exact error you get?
[08:14] <apokryphos> I don't really recommend having many people with 30, by the way ;)
[08:14] <beuno> -ChanServ- [Sapote]  matches an access level higher than your own
[08:14] <beuno> apokryphos: I realize that now  :D
[08:14] <apokryphos> depends on how you have your channel setup. Have you identified with ChanServ?
[08:15] <apokryphos> beuno: not because of that, but just because there's no need for people to be 30 unless they should add ops
[08:15] <apokryphos> which should be rare
[08:15] <beuno> apokryphos: yes, I need to brush up on my IRC admin skills
[08:16] <apokryphos> if you identify with ChanServ, you should then be able to change any access levels
[08:16] <beuno> I don't see a command to identify in "help"
[08:16] <beuno> how would I do that?
[08:16] <apokryphos> syntax is /msg chanserv identify #channel password
[08:16] <tsmithe> /msg chanserv identify <channel> <passoword>
[08:16] <tsmithe> pah apokryphos :P
[08:17] <gnomefreak> no brownie points for passoword
[08:17] <apokryphos> heh
[08:17] <gnomefreak> password 5 brownie points
[08:17] <beuno> that did it, thatnks apokryphos
[08:18] <gnomefreak> ok time for me to get ready for tomorrow.
[08:18] <tsmithe> \o/
[08:18] <tsmithe> gnomefreak, mrgh
[08:18] <tsmithe> i was trying to type fast cos i knew apokryphos would otherwise beat me... didn't know he would nonetheless :P
[08:19] <tsmithe> pah
[08:23] <PriceChild> hehe
[08:26] <DawnLight> hello
[08:27] <PriceChild> !proxy > DawnLight (please see the pm from ubotu)
[08:29] <tsmithe> PriceChild, is that really gonna work?
[08:29] <tsmithe> with the brackets and all?
[08:29] <PriceChild> !bot > tsmithe (yes it does as far as i know)
[08:29] <tsmithe> wpw
[08:29] <tsmithe> *wow
[08:46] <apokryphos> !staff
[08:46] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob or SportChick! I could use a bit of your time :)
[08:46] <apokryphos> malt is ban-evading again
[08:46] <apokryphos> now under "baker5" nick
[08:46] <apokryphos> he says he'll keep doing it, and that he's got 500 proxies
[08:47] <apokryphos> [19:45:59]  <baker5> I will wait a few and random come back in on another ident and rpoxy
[08:47] <apokryphos> [19:44:13]  <baker5> rofl i been here for hours ^^ See You powerless fuck.  You just want to be set in your on ways kid.
[08:47] <tsmithe> PriceChild, that's op abuse!
[08:47] <apokryphos> etc
[08:47] <tsmithe> better
[08:50] <Myrtti> that's evil
[08:51] <apokryphos> [19:51:41]  <baker5> rofl i already back in there
[08:53] <PriceChild> Am i being paranoid... <ZLOTYPOSHIEE> ;]
[08:54] <tsmithe> PriceChild, listen to my lecture damnit!
[08:55] <PriceChild> apokryphos, ^ (not tsmithe's commend)
[08:55] <apokryphos> PriceChild: can't be sure
[08:56] <PriceChild> Yeah can't be sure... but I'd be willing to bet :)
[10:34] <ErunnoToo> Could somebody disconnect my account "Erunno" from the server ? I just lost connection and can't log back under that nick.
[10:35] <ErunnoToo> Not that it's a big deal ;-)
[10:38] <GazzaK> could you not ghost it?
[10:38] <GazzaK> /msg nickserv ghost erunno "password"
[10:39] <ErunnoToo> Thanks, just learned something new.
[10:40] <GazzaK> :-)
[10:59] <GazzaK> !tor
[10:59] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[10:59] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[10:59] <GazzaK> just checking :-)
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> !herd3
[11:35] <ubotu> To download Feisty Fawn Herd 3, visit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-3/ - read the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd3, and consider doing the tests at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[11:36] <tsmithe> !herd5
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about herd5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <tsmithe> !herd4
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> !herd4 is To download Feisty Fawn Herd 4, visit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-4/ - read the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd4, and consider doing the tests at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about herd4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <ubotu> I'll remember that, tonyyarusso
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> !no, herd3 is <alias> herd4
[11:37] <ubotu> I'll remember that tonyyarusso
[11:37] <tsmithe> tonyyarusso, what about herd5 in preparation for tomorrow?
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> !herd5 is coming out very soon - change this note when it does ;)
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> tsmithe: getting there :)
[11:37] <tsmithe> :D
[11:37] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, Why've you aliased herd3 to herd4? :s
[11:37] <tsmithe> so people update?
[11:37] <tsmithe> !herd5
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: To match !herd3, etc.
[11:37] <ubotu> herd5 is coming out very soon - change this note when it does ;)
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> !herd2
[11:37] <ubotu> herd4 is To download Feisty Fawn Herd 4, visit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-4/ - read the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd4, and consider doing the tests at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[11:37] <tsmithe> \o/
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: Convention?
[11:38] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, Ah I get it... so they always get the latest one :)
[11:38] <PriceChild> Sorry
[11:38] <ubotu> In ubotu, HymnToLife said: no hostname is <reply> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname . WARNING! Make sure your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: yup
[11:38] <PriceChild> !hostname
[11:38] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> good call
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: are you changing that?
[11:41] <PriceChild> Its got me confused, but if you agree with it then yeah?
[11:41] <PriceChild> I just think it could be clearer...
[11:41] <PriceChild> what's the point in changing /etc/hostname if you don't change /etc/hosts as well?
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> None.  Hence HymnToLife saying to edit both, and then also double-check that they match
[11:42] <tsmithe> PriceChild, may i be unbanned?
[11:42] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, but hymntolife only mentions the first file in the first half?
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> wait...
[11:42] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, I'd agree to the second half edition... but am a bit :S about the missing bit in the first half.
[11:42] <PriceChild> edition -> addition
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: so fix both :)
[11:42] <tsmithe> well, do both?
[11:42] <tsmithe> tonyyarusso, *high-five*!
[11:43] <PriceChild>  Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[11:43] <PriceChild> So like that?
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> ya
[11:44] <PriceChild> !-hostname
[11:44] <ubotu> hostname has no aliases - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 14:52:04
[11:44] <PriceChild> (just checking ;) )
[11:44] <PriceChild> !no hostname is <reply> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[11:44] <ubotu> I'll remember that PriceChild
[11:44] <PriceChild> Sorted? :)
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> Hope so :)
[11:45] <tsmithe> PriceChild, may please i be unbanned?
[11:45] <tsmithe> (not the addition of the please)
[11:45] <PriceChild> tsmithe, If you promise to be good
[11:45] <tsmithe> *note
[11:45] <PriceChild> Cross your heart?
[11:46] <tsmithe> and hope (not) to die
[11:46] <tsmithe> is that right?
[12:13] <ubotu> In #ubuntuforums, tsmithe said: !environmentalism-#ubuntuforums is <reply> jdong doesn't environmentalism. Please don't mention it here. (Or if you do, be warned that an angry jdong will beseech you otherwise)
[12:14] <ubotu> In #ubuntuforums, tsmithe said: !environmentalism-#ubuntuforums is <reply> jdong doesn't like environmentalism. Please don't mention it here. (Or if you do, be warned that an angry jdong will beseech you otherwise)
[12:14] <Pricey> @lart tsmithe
[12:14] <tsmithe> oi!
[12:14] <tsmithe> i think it's a good factoid!
[12:16] <tsmithe> Pricey, ain't ya gonna add it?
[12:16] <Pricey> I'm not no.
[12:16] <tsmithe> whys then, then?
[12:23] <scythetleppo> hi
[12:23] <scythetleppo> I'm installing vista then gentoo then ubuntu on the same machine
[12:23] <tsmithe> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:23] <scythetleppo> should I just leave the third partition as unallocated until I do ubuntu's install?
[12:23] <tsmithe> please, please, please don't install vista
[12:23] <tsmithe> i beg you
[12:23] <tsmithe> for freedom's sake
[12:23] <scythetleppo> It's the free version
[12:23] <tsmithe> and this isn't a support channel
[12:23] <tsmithe> !tor | scythetleppo
[12:23] <ubotu> scythetleppo: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[12:23] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[12:24] <scythetleppo> oh where's the
[12:24] <scythetleppo> hang on
[12:24] <tsmithe> and there is no free version
[12:24] <scythetleppo> yes there is
[12:24] <tsmithe> it's time-limited
[12:24] <tsmithe> or illegal, or a pre-release
[12:24] <tsmithe> in any case, i highly advise you think again about installing it


[08:35] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:47] <BluesKaj> G'Day folks
[11:57] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[11:57] <BluesKaj> hi lordievader
[11:57] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> fine thanks, and you?
[11:58] <lordievader> Doing okay, studying for a test of tommorow.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> test?
[11:59] <lordievader> I'm still a student, eh ;)
[12:01] <BluesKaj> yes, but it's summertime. Extra courses I suppose
[12:04] <lordievader> Nope, resit. Oral exam. My last before completing my Bachelor.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> good luck , I'm sure you'll do well
[12:13] <lordievader> Hope so :)
[17:04] <smallfoot-> When I login to my GNOME Session Flashback on guest account it works, but when I login on my account, then Compiz is not loaded, and I have to type `compiz --replace`, anyone know why?
[17:04] <smallfoot-> This happend today
[17:48] <smallfoot-> when will get new kernel?
[17:49] <lordievader> smallfoot-: Whenever it is uploaded to the archive?
[17:50] <smallfoot-> okay, but i dont know when that is
[17:50] <smallfoot-> it has 3.19 old :(
[17:50] <smallfoot-> and firefox 38 old :(
[17:50] <smallfoot-> and blender 2.74 old :(
[17:50] <Daekdroom> That usually happens with development versions.
[17:50] <Daekdroom> And you should know because you always come here complaining about that.
[17:50] <smallfoot-> but i thought development version was the new version :(
[17:51] <jpds> smallfoot-: When's the last time you bought a kernel dev a beer?
[17:51] <jpds> ;-)
[17:51] <smallfoot-> never ever
[17:51] <smallfoot-> i dont know any kernel devs
[17:51] <lordievader> !info kernel-image-generic wily
[17:51] <jpds> linux-image-... ?
[17:51] <Daekdroom> Well, wily was started as a copy of vivid, and updating packages for it is not the biggest priority, because it's not even supposed to be used for all purposes in the first place, only tested.
[17:52] <lordievader> That's the one...
[17:52] <lordievader> !info linux-image-generic wily
[17:52] <lordievader> Hmm, I thought Wily was already at 4.1, oh well.
[17:52] <smallfoot-> no, its 3.19 its old :(
[17:52] <Daekdroom> It's the same as vivid for now.
[17:54] <smallfoot-> :(
[17:54] <lordievader> 3.19 ain't that old. Go run 12.04 <- that is old :P
[17:54] <smallfoot-> yes 6.04 is old too
[17:54] <Daekdroom> *6.06
[17:54] <smallfoot-> oh
[17:54] <smallfoot-> ye that one
[17:55] <lordievader> The odd one of the bunch ;)
[17:55] <smallfoot-> ya
[17:57] <smallfoot-> gnome-maps doesnt work
[17:57] <smallfoot->  /usr/bin/gnome-maps: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `{'


[12:18] <gnomefreak> in making a control file the part depends: $(shlibs:depends) i would leave $(shlibs: than list the build depends after that) and what would i put between each depend
[12:19] <gnomefreak> is this what it should look like? Depends: ${shlibs:automake1.9 build-essential cvs libpango1.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev libgconf2-dev  libglitz-glx-dev  librsvg2-dev checkinstall libglade2-dev libxcomposite-dev libtool libgtop2-dev}
[12:19] <crimsun> no
[12:20] <gnomefreak> :(
[12:21] <geser> gnomefreak: pick any non-complex package to see how is should look like
[12:21] <geser> gnomefreak: you have a line starting with Build-Depends which lists all needed package to build
[12:22] <geser> and you have a line Depends for each package stating the runtime depends
[12:22] <gnomefreak> not from what im reading :( someone might want to change the guide than?
[12:23] <geser> the value ${shlibs:depends} gets filled during the build by some debhelper script
[12:23] <gnomefreak> oh
[12:24] <geser> so you get the current dependency automatically and don't need to do it everytime manually
[12:27] <gnomefreak> ok i see where it gets the depends from. the file im scared to death to make
[12:28] <crimsun> what's "this"?
[12:28] <geser> gnomefreak: why are you trying to package?
[12:28] <crimsun> (and your checkinstall is showing.)
[12:28] <gnomefreak> yeah i removed all that checkinstall was a mistake
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ah i know wher ei can get the files from and just edit them as needed (that might work for the rules file)
[12:30] <crimsun> heh, you should try cdbs.
[12:31] <geser> gnomefreak: look if there is a package similar to what you want packaged and spy there :)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> im looking for it atm
[12:32] <gnomefreak> good thing its not going into ubuntu repos :)
[01:50] <TheMuso> Hobbsee!
[01:50] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee!!!111!!ONE
[01:52] <Hobbsee> TheMuso!
[01:53] <zul> hey
[01:54] <Fujitsu> Hi zul.
[01:56] <Hobbsee> hey Fujitsu!  hey zul!
[01:57] <zul> hey Hobbsee how goes the stick?
[01:59] <Hobbsee> the stick goes :)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> in the control file section is the repo that the package is in right?
[02:11] <bddebian> Heya gang
[02:11] <Hobbsee> uh, no.  doesnt say at all, actually
[02:11] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: 6
[02:11] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: ^
[02:12] <gnomefreak> it says Section: unknown  should that be changed?
[02:13] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: what's the package?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> scribus-mg
[02:13] <gnomefreak> ng
[02:14] <gnomefreak> in show it says universe/graphics
[02:14] <Hobbsee> check the debian maintainers guide - it's sections like kde, gnome, etc
[02:14] <Hobbsee> ah.
[02:14] <Hobbsee> could be what it's supposed to be
[02:14] <gnomefreak> ok makes sence
[02:16] <Fujitsu> gnomefreak: The archive admins add the universe/, so you just need the section.
[02:16] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[02:17] <Fujitsu> universe is the component, graphics is the section. You only need the section.
[02:17] <gnomefreak> cool :)
[02:20] <bddebian> w00t we're under 20 new merges :-)
[02:23] <Fujitsu> Yay!
[02:23] <Fujitsu> Better than Edgy, at any rate.
[02:23] <Fujitsu> (although I presume a number of them have sync requests filed)
[02:24] <bddebian> Not too many that are left I don't think.  Though I know maildir-bulletin does ;-)
[02:26] <Fujitsu> 4 of the new ones need no action, as they were fake syncs due to stuffed Debian versioning.
[02:26] <Fujitsu> So we're down to 14 or so.
[02:27] <bddebian> xbvl is unbuildable afaict
[02:27] <bddebian> Unless we bring back libGLw
[02:27] <Fujitsu> AFAIK too.
[02:27] <Fujitsu> Yep.
[02:27] <Fujitsu> We need a comments field :(
[02:28] <bddebian> Yep
[02:28] <Fujitsu> We should have one on our own MoM for Feisty+1, so it's just a short-term problem.
[02:30] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: our own one?
[02:30] <Hobbsee> anyoen interested in updating mplayer, btw?
[02:30] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, yes, it is planned to have our own.
[02:30] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, I might take a look, if it's not too horrible.
[02:30] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: neat :)
[02:30] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: okay
[02:32] <TheMuso> c/me prepares to go indoor rock climbing.
[02:32] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: nice!!!
[02:32] <zakame> morning all
[02:32] <bddebian> Heya zakame
[02:32] <zakame> TheMuso: that's rocking
[02:32] <zakame> yo bddebian!
[02:32] <TheMuso> zakame: haha yeah.
[02:38] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: looking into it now
[02:38] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, I am too.
[02:40] <Fujitsu> Any other nice new upstream versions we want?
[02:40] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: make sure you grab that patch for the vulnerability, too
[02:43] <gnomefreak> crap so close
[02:43] <ademan> i realize this is off topic but can anyone PM me and help me with the ATI drivers?  #ubuntu is being useless
[02:44] <gnomefreak> how do i get depends inside pbuilder
[02:44] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: build whatever you're trying to, it'll fail in configure?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> yes missing a lib
[02:45] <ademan> gnomefreak:  hrm? your debian/control should have Build-Depend: ListOfPackagesNeededToBuild
[02:45] <gnomefreak> it does ill check to see if it has libart
[02:47] <ademan> note you'll have to dpkg-buildpackage again for those changes to take effect
[02:47] <gnomefreak> i running debuild -S again
[02:48] <Fujitsu> That'll do too.
[02:48] <gnomefreak> than the pbuilder command
[02:48] <ademan> what's the difference between dpkg-buildpackage and debuild?
[02:48] <bddebian> Not much
[02:49] <ademan> any advantages one way or the other?
[02:49] <gnomefreak> isnt debuild used only with debhelper?
[02:49] <ademan> i know i've used debhelper with dpkg-buildpackage, so i dunno
[02:49] <Hobbsee> no, both use debhelper
[02:49] <Hobbsee> debuild requires devscripts installed
[02:51] <somerville32> Do we usually complete all the merges?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> yay its installing them
[02:53] <Fujitsu> somerville32, not as far as I know... But we can get very close, and we've got more time now.
[02:53] <somerville32> Fujitsu, I guess my real question is, "Are we doing good this release?"
[02:53] <zakame> freeze's on 15th right?
[02:54] <gnomefreak> i guess since its still failing on libart i should add libart-2.0-2-dev packages too?
[02:54] <Fujitsu> zakame, UVF is the 8th.
[02:54] <Fujitsu> somerville32, better than Edgy, I think.
[02:54] <zakame> oh, thanks
[02:55] <gnomefreak> it doesnt matter how many time i run debuild right?
[02:56] <somerville32> gnomefreak, You need to run it to rebuild the source package
[02:56] <gnomefreak> but running it 3 times isnt gonna make 3 sources is it?
[02:56] <somerville32> No
[02:56] <somerville32> It overwrites it
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[03:04] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: yeah, you need the -dev package.
[03:04] <gnomefreak> i took most from build-dep scribus-ng :)
[03:04] <gnomefreak> so far so good
[03:05] <gnomefreak> im kind of scared of lintian
[03:06] <gnomefreak> oh yeah its grabbing alot of packages now. im betting that part is right now
[03:07] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: fails on --enable-vortis, if you havent already found out
[03:08] <Fujitsu> I'm still checking-out the bzr branch.
[03:08] <Hobbsee> bah.  didnt even know there was one.
[03:08] <Fujitsu> In the README in the old source package, it says there is.
[03:08] <Fujitsu> And a good thing to.
[03:08] <Fujitsu> *too
[03:08] <Fujitsu> bzr-maintained packages are goooood.
[03:09] <Hobbsee> hehe :)
[03:09] <Fujitsu> (especially when there's a fairly large delta)
[03:12] <Fujitsu> Why is bzr so slow!?
[03:13] <zakame> I thought you was praising it? :P
[03:13] <Fujitsu> It is good, but rather slow.
[03:13] <Fujitsu> And I note that Debian now has a mplayer package.
[03:13] <Nafallo> Fujitsu: because it's not written for speed? :-)
[03:14] <zakame> oh, amenucc's
[03:15] <Nafallo> Fujitsu: they have probably thrown out most of the stuff people want...
[03:15] <_jaldhar> Anyone here going to ubucon?
[03:15] <Fujitsu> This is true; I just noticed that it was in main.
[03:16] <somerville32> Is debian using python 2.5?
[03:16] <Fujitsu> So, stuff Debian in this case.
[03:16] <Nafallo> Fujitsu: better to keep ours and keep it up-to-date I think :-)
[03:16] <Fujitsu> Looks like it.
[03:16] <Nafallo> Fujitsu: so feel free to package new upstream version ;-)
[03:17] <Fujitsu> That's what I'm doing :)
[03:17] <Fujitsu> (once these stupid branches check out)
[03:17] <Fujitsu> Hi minghua.
[03:17] <Nafallo> hehe
[03:17] <minghua> Hello Fujitsu
[03:20] <Fujitsu> bddebian, why didn't you request a sync of u++?
[03:21] <bddebian> md5sum mismatch, no?
[03:21] <Fujitsu> Wouldn't that put it on the manual list?
[03:21] <bddebian> It didn't for Istanbul
[03:22] <Fujitsu> How strange.
[03:22] <Fujitsu> Do we want to remove mozilla? Debian did some time ago.
[03:23] <bddebian> Still has a lot of rdepends, doesn't it? (Though yes, I think we should remove it) :-)
[03:23] <Fujitsu> Indeed, it does.
[03:24] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[03:24] <Fujitsu> They seem to be mostly mozilla | www-browser
[03:24] <bddebian> Yeah.
[03:27] <gnomefreak> i keep getting a damn 404 error :(
[03:28] <gnomefreak> what do you do if pbuilder cant grab a depend because of a 404 error from repo?
[03:31] <Fujitsu> pbuilder update
[03:32] <zakame> does cowbuilder work now in feisty? I can't seem to even --create it
[03:40] <bddebian> cowbuilder?
[03:42] <zakame> yeah, from cowdancer
[03:43] <zakame> alternate to pbuilder, avoids extracting base.tgzs...
[03:43] <bddebian> Hmm
[03:44] <zakame> I tried creating a base-cow now but it borks saying cowbuilder can't be found in the chroot's repositories check
[03:48] <Fujitsu> zakame: How does it do it without extracting them? Just cleans the directory up?
[03:53] <zakame> Fujitsu: yeah iirc, its copy-on-write
[03:54] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[03:54] <Fujitsu> Sounds similar to LVM snapshots.
[03:54] <zakame> yeah
[03:56] <Fujitsu> Hm, I should probably do a license audit on the delta... But it's biiig.
[03:57] <gnomefreak> libarts is starting to work on my nerves :(
[03:58] <DarkMageZ> gnomefreak, luckily kde4 is getting rid of arts
[03:58] <gnomefreak> DarkMageZ: than the upstream needs to get rid of it as a depends
[03:58] <gnomefreak> i think i know what happened but will find out
[04:05] <gnomefreak> last time i running this tonight
[04:53] <gnomefreak> is there an easy fast way to fix this error? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:53] <gnomefreak> i woul dlove to finish this before deb
[04:53] <gnomefreak> bed
[04:53] <Fujitsu> Nafallo, around?
[04:53] <Fujitsu> Ah, I see not.
[04:54] <Nafallo> Fujitsu: pong @ 4:53 ;-)
[04:54] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[04:55] <Fujitsu> You seem to be the master of recent mplayer uploads.
[04:55] <Fujitsu> What's the process for a new upstream? Put it in upstream-ubuntu first, then merge to ubuntu, then resolve conflicts... Then what?
[04:56] <Nafallo> oh. no idea. I haven't really tried that :-)
[04:56] <Nafallo> locally I do for example gajim/bzr/{tarball,ubuntu}
[04:57] <Fujitsu> But you did the last mplahyer new upstream, didn't you?
[04:57] <Nafallo> and then bzr import tarballs to tarball and commit and then merge with ubuntu :-)
[04:57] <Fujitsu> *mplayer
[04:57] <Fujitsu> OK.
[04:57] <Nafallo> hmm. no idea. I did the repacking upstream wanted :-)
[04:58] <Nafallo> I don't think I upgraded it
[04:58] <Nafallo> ages ago anyway :-P
[04:58] <Fujitsu> Yah.
[05:00] <sistpoty> gn8 everyone
[05:01] <Nafallo> siretart: night :-)
[05:01] <bddebian> Gnight sistpoty
[05:01] <ajmitch> night sistpoty :)
[05:01] <Nafallo> I must have reminded him about the time :-P
[05:02] <bddebian> Sick bastards :-)
[05:02] <zakame> hehe
[05:03] <Nafallo> I have a LugRadio-marathon ffs :-P
[05:03] <Nafallo> have taken me two-three days now :-)
[05:03] <Nafallo> I'm on s3e3 :-)
[05:03] <ajmitch> away from computers
[05:03] <Fujitsu> ajmitch, impossible!
[05:03] <ajmitch> but true!
[05:04] <Fujitsu> Wow, my mplayer source package actually built from bzr. I'm impressed.
[05:05] <ajmitch> I worry that you sound surprised
[05:05] <Fujitsu> It's mplayer, the upstream needed to be modified a lot, and it's in bzr.
[05:05] <Fujitsu> None of which increase my confidence.
[05:06] <Nafallo> shall I look at it for you?
[05:07] <Fujitsu> Not yet, I think I know what I'm doing now.
[05:07] <Nafallo> hehe :-)
[05:25] <Nafallo> gn{att,ight}
[05:29] <bddebian> Gnight Nafallo
[05:33] <ScottK> Actually all I had to do was complain and then it wasn't so hard ...
[05:34] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[05:34] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[05:36] <LaserJock> bddebian: how are things?
[05:37] <bddebian> Going man thanks.  You?
[05:38] <LaserJock> decent
[05:38] <LaserJock> just got back from a conference
[05:39] <bddebian> A Laser Conference? :-)
[05:42] <ajmitch> hello LaserJock
[05:42] <LaserJock> bddebian: yes
[05:42] <LaserJock> bddebian: kinda
[05:42] <LaserJock> hi ajmitch
[05:43] <LaserJock> uggg, lots of FTBFS
[05:45] <ajmitch> LaserJock: might as well get working on them then
[05:46] <LaserJock> hmm
[05:47] <LaserJock> well, ever time I got to these conferences I realize how much I need to focus on research
[05:47] <bddebian> I'll try to hit some when I think I can't get through any more merges which is getting VERY close :-)
[05:50] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: Note that about 1/3 of them are false, due to schroot issues.
[05:58] <LaserJock> Fujitsu: yeah, it's hard to work with that many false positives
[05:59] <Fujitsu> You can eliminate them by looking for larger logs.
[06:13] <LaserJock> well, I'm going to bed
[06:13] <LaserJock> cya all tomorrow
[06:14] <Fujitsu> Goodnight, Laser_away.
[06:16] <bddebian> Gnight Laser_away
[07:45] <joejaxx> anyone awake?
[07:45] <joejaxx> :(
[07:49] <lifeless> no
[07:51] <Fujitsu> (and sleep-updating-mplayer)
[07:57] <joejaxx> :(
[09:46] <Fujitsu> Go to bed, imbrandon!
[09:47] <Fujitsu> (or did you just wake up?)
[09:47] <imbrandon> i just got to work
[09:47] <imbrandon> no sleeep for me
[09:47] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[09:47] <imbrandon> well got to work 3 hours ago
[09:47] <imbrandon> but just now logging in etc
[09:47] <imbrandon> ;)
[09:48] <imbrandon> wasup Fujitsu ?
[09:48] <imbrandon> maybe i'll blog tonight , i havent done that in a while
[09:48] <Fujitsu> Well, I've just finished yet another compilation of mplayer 1.0rc1, and it seems to be working this time.
[09:50] <imbrandon> nice
[09:51] <imbrandon> hrm i wish there was an archive admin awake
[09:51] <Fujitsu> Why?
[09:51] <imbrandon> to push a manual main promotion
[09:51] <Fujitsu> There are 6 now, you know?
[09:52] <Fujitsu> Surely one of them is up...
[09:52] <imbrandon> 6 now ? wow
[09:52] <Fujitsu> seb128 and Mithrandir.
[09:53] <Fujitsu> Although I'm not sure if seb128 has the requisite accounts yet.
[09:54] <ajmitch> hey imbrandon
[09:54] <imbrandon> heya ajmitch
[09:54] <Fujitsu> Evening, ajmitch.
[09:55] <ajmitch> evening
[09:55] <ajmitch> all the active archive admins seem to be in the same timezone now
[09:55] <imbrandon> wow haha
[09:55] <imbrandon> what timezone?
[09:55] <Fujitsu> ajmitch, other than infinity, I presume.
[09:55] <ajmitch> Fujitsu: I said active
[09:55] <ajmitch> have you seen him round at all this year?
[09:55] <Fujitsu> True.
[09:56] <Fujitsu> He was away for a while.
[09:56] <Fujitsu> (ie. on holidays)
[09:56] <ajmitch> imbrandon: UTC+1 or +2, I think
[09:56] <Fujitsu> seb128 is somewhere else as well, isn't he?
[09:56] <ajmitch> actually no, UTC & UTC+1
[09:56] <ajmitch> seb128 is in paris
[09:56] <ajmitch> so they're all in the UK or europe
[09:56] <imbrandon> figures
[09:56] <Fujitsu> Oh, and we've got pitti.
[09:56] <ajmitch> germany
[09:56] <imbrandon> pitti is german
[09:57] <Fujitsu> So, Germany, France, UK. All rather similar :-/
[09:57] <imbrandon> yup, all in EU
[09:57] <ajmitch> and infinity was never really in any 1 .au timezone
[09:58] <Fujitsu> Er?
[09:58] <ajmitch> he kept odd hours
[09:58] <Fujitsu> Hahah.
[09:58] <imbrandon> kinda like me ;)
[09:59] <Fujitsu> Hrm, so an archive admin is actually up. Impossible.
[09:59] <ajmitch> yeah
[09:59] <ajmitch> hardly impossible
[09:59] <ajmitch> tollef is one of the married ones now :)
[09:59] <Fujitsu> This is true.
[10:01] <ajmitch> 21:59 < imbrandon> Mithrandir, pweeease and thank you :)
[10:02] <ajmitch> sickening
[10:02] <imbrandon> lol
[10:03] <ajmitch> now I need a new f-spot
[10:03] <Fujitsu> imbrandon, seems you were lucky and it got depwaited... Quite a lot seem to not, these days.
[10:03] <imbrandon> yea
[10:04] <ajmitch> imbrandon: need this for amarok?
[10:04] <Fujitsu> ajmitch: What's this new F-Spot?
[10:04] <ajmitch> Fujitsu: 0.3.3
[10:04] <imbrandon> ajmitch, yes
[10:04] <ajmitch> 0.3.2 has a few bugs that are annoying
[10:04] <Fujitsu> I noticed.
[10:04] <imbrandon> actualy i needed that for libgpod 0.4.2 witch inturn i need for amarok
[10:04] <ajmitch> I've been promised a new release before UVF
[10:05] <Fujitsu> I've noticed it vanishes without a trace a little more than I'd expect.
[10:05] <imbrandon> ajmitch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuApps
[10:05] <ajmitch> 0.3.3 is mainly just bugfixes
[10:05] <ajmitch> I like having a friendly upstream
[10:05] <ajmitch> who will adjust their releases to match ubuntu
[10:05] <Fujitsu> A friendly upstream? Does such a thing exist?
[10:06] <ajmitch> sure
[10:06] <Fujitsu> That does sound ideal, ajmitch.
[10:06] <imbrandon> Fujitsu, hehe yea konversation and amarok both talor to ubuntu releases
[10:06] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:06] <ajmitch> I've stayed with the main developer of another package I maintain, in melbourne
[10:06] <imbrandon> well mostly
[10:06] <ajmitch> as well as being good friends with some others
[10:07] <Fujitsu> I've met a total of.... Zero FOSS developers in real life.
[10:07] <ajmitch> Fujitsu: that's hard to believe still
[10:08] <Fujitsu> No Ubuntuers or DDs either :-/
[10:08] <ajmitch> I thought you'd had at least 1 debian-melb meetup?
[10:08] <Fujitsu> Nothing ever came of the one I could have attended, and I was at school for the other.
[10:08] <ajmitch> even I've met more DDs in melbourne than you have :)
[10:08] <Fujitsu> Haha.
[10:08] <imbrandon> lol
[10:08] <ajmitch> so next time I'm over I'll have to meetup
[10:08] <imbrandon> we need more people in KC to be ubuntu/DD people
[10:09] <imbrandon> chi seems to have alot and KC is bigger
[10:09] <ajmitch> since I'll probably end up staying with my friend in ringwood
[10:09] <Fujitsu> KC?
[10:09] <imbrandon> kansas city
[10:09] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[10:09] <ajmitch> imbrandon: yeah, it sucks only have 5 (or is it 6?) DDs in this town
[10:09] <Fujitsu> ajmitch, what is the population of said place?
[10:09] <imbrandon> ajmitch, we have 0 and i'm the only ubuntu guy afaik
[10:09] <ajmitch> 120K peopl
[10:09] <Fujitsu> Not at all bad.
[10:10] <ajmitch> yeah
[10:10] <imbrandon> in a town of 2+ mil ( counting suburbs )
[10:10] <ajmitch> imbrandon: that's bad
[10:10] <imbrandon> yea
[10:10] <ajmitch> I'm the only ubuntu dev currently
[10:10] <Fujitsu> We've got 3 (or perhaps 3.5) million people, quite a number of DDs, and one Ubuntu dev.
[10:10] <imbrandon> hell our lug only has 20 or so peeps that show up regularly, we have more people at work that use linux than come to lug meetings
[10:11] <Fujitsu> (plus infinity, but... he sort of counts)
[10:11] <imbrandon> i need to check on the KC population , thats was purely an semi-educated guess
[10:11] <ajmitch> ah, classic australian music on last.fm
[10:11] <ajmitch> AC/DC
[10:12] <ajmitch> oh well
[10:12] <imbrandon> ahh looks like 2.7 million in the actual city limits + more in the suburbs
[10:13] <imbrandon> so i was a tad off
[10:13] <imbrandon> probably closer to 3.5 all togather then
[10:13] <ajmitch> not a small city then
[10:13] <imbrandon> 2,744,687
[10:14] <imbrandon> nope not small, just suprisingly no DD's here afaik
[10:14] <ajmitch> compared to dunedin, yeah
[10:15] <imbrandon> wow someone bit my computer area meme kinda late on planet
[10:15] <imbrandon> hehe
[10:20] <ajmitch> haha
[10:20] <ajmitch> I don't think I want to follow that meme :)
[10:20] <imbrandon> hehe
[10:22] <ajmitch> but I cheat since 1 monitor is hooked up to a dead box
[10:23] <imbrandon> i have 2 monitors in my main work area
[10:23] <imbrandon> one isnt hooked up atm
[10:23] <imbrandon> ( the crt )
[10:23] <imbrandon> and my lappy off to the side but its not in the pic
[10:25] <imbrandon> hum
[10:26] <ajmitch> yeah, but I like my 3200x1200 desktop :)
[10:27] <imbrandon> someday i'll get another 22'' and run dual head
[10:27] <imbrandon> wont be for a few more months though
[10:27] <imbrandon> unless i get a raise
[10:27] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:27] <siretart> 3200x1200 is neat
[10:28] <ajmitch> hey siretart
[10:28] <siretart> at work, we have 1920x1200 desktops, I think
[10:28] <siretart> huhu ajmitch
[10:28] <imbrandon> heya siretart
[10:28] <siretart> huhu imbrandon
[10:28] <imbrandon> yea i run 4x 1600x1200 at work
[10:28] <imbrandon> ( 4 x 17in lcd )
[10:30] <ajmitch> yeah I hate you now
[10:30] <ajmitch> but that's ok
[10:30] <siretart> lol
[10:31] <imbrandon> heh , lemme find some batteries and i'll take some pics of the DC
[10:31] <imbrandon> i've been meaning to anyhow
[10:32] <imbrandon> i have a cheap camera here but its dead
[10:32] <ajmitch> you at work now?
[10:33] <imbrandon> yea
[10:33] <imbrandon> for 5 or so more hours
[10:33] <imbrandon> its a slow night
[10:43] <imbrandon> ajmitch, http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/gsi/
[10:43] <imbrandon> err
[10:43] <imbrandon> http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/gsi/workstation.jpg
[10:44] <imbrandon> crappy pics but the camera here sucks
[10:44] <imbrandon> worse than mine at home hehe
[10:45] <imbrandon> but give you a rough idea of the DC
[10:45] <imbrandon> gives*
[10:48] <Fujitsu> imbrandon: I want one. :P
[10:49] <siretart> quad head?
[10:49] <imbrandon> siretart, two dual head nvida cards
[10:49] <imbrandon> Fujitsu, one what ?
[10:49] <Fujitsu> That setup.
[10:50] <imbrandon> heh thats my work setup, i actualy like my home setup better for useability
[10:51] <imbrandon> honestly two widescreens > 4 smaller ones
[10:51] <siretart> imbrandon: what/where are you working?
[10:51] <imbrandon> siretart, i work at one of the largest colo / managed hosting facilities in the US
[10:52] <imbrandon> thus i get the rackspace and bandwidth for free for my buildfarm ( from yesterdays convo )
[10:52] <imbrandon> as an employyee perk
[10:53] <imbrandon> http://www.gsihosting.com/clients/  <-- some of our customers
[10:53] <imbrandon> siretart, ^^
[10:54] <siretart> impressive :)
[10:54] <ajmitch> imbrandon: interesting setup
[10:55] <imbrandon> i'd take better pics of the actual racks but some have company logo's that we arent allowed via PCI to disclose etc
[10:56] <imbrandon> and i'd get my arse chewed/fired
[10:56] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:56] <Fujitsu> What do you actually do?
[10:57] <imbrandon> Fujitsu, sysadmin for ubuntu/centos/solaris boxen
[10:57] <imbrandon> for some of our managed clients and our company internal servers
[10:57] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[10:57] <Fujitsu> Other than the CentOS, that sounds good.
[10:58] <imbrandon> yea the cent boxes will eventualy get phased out, but with over 1k in production it takes a while
[10:58] <Fujitsu> Wow!
[10:58] <Fujitsu> How many boxen do you have in total?
[10:58] <imbrandon> between the two DC's and the offsite backup facility about 5 to 6 k
[10:59] <ajmitch> a small number
[10:59] <imbrandon> yea really not that many considering the stuff we do
[10:59] <imbrandon> more and more they are getting virtualized
[10:59] <imbrandon> we have a few esx servers now
[11:41] <imbrandon> hum, got quiet
[11:44] <ajmitch> yep
[11:46] <imbrandon> apt-cache search wildfire
[11:46] <imbrandon> err
[11:46] <imbrandon> hum
[11:46] <ajmitch> heh
[11:46] <ajmitch> apt-cache search life
[11:46] <imbrandon> are there any jabber servers in the repos ?
[11:46] <ajmitch> darn, can't install one
[11:47] <ajmitch> sure there are
[11:47] <imbrandon> wildfire dosent seem to be
[11:47] <imbrandon> lol @ life
[11:47] <ajmitch> jabberd2, ejabberd
[11:47] <ajmitch> jabber
[11:48] <imbrandon> like ubuntu-roxorz.tld or i-heart-ubuntu.tld
[11:48] <imbrandon> or some such , just for fun
[11:48] <Fujitsu> ejabberd works well, I use it on ubuntu.org.au.
[11:49] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:51] <imbrandon> hrm do jabber servers automaticly talk to one another ? or would i have to "peer" with like jabber.org or something ?
[11:52] <imbrandon> e.g. if i set this up @whateverichoose.blah can still talk to other jabber service users like gmail and jabber.org{,.au} etc ?
[11:53] <Fujitsu> Automagic.
[11:53] <imbrandon> cool
[11:53] <Fujitsu> (unless you disable it manually)
[11:53] <imbrandon> hum could even through some kinda free webmail too i guess
[11:54] <imbrandon> any sugestions ona  catchy ubuntuish domain for free jabber/webmail for general users?
[11:54] <Fujitsu> ubuntu.net! Almost definitely taken, though.
[11:54] <imbrandon> maybe i should make a contest for the best name and give that person a bigger disk quota and pop3 access
[11:54] <imbrandon> or something
[11:55] <ajmitch> ubuntu-is-t3h-1337.net
[11:55] <imbrandon> heh
[11:55] <ajmitch> or whatever misspellings you can manage
[11:56] <imbrandon> hehe
[11:59] <imbrandon> umail.com ( like gmail ) , nah toooooo lame
[11:59] <imbrandon> and not everyone would catch it i dont think
[11:59] <imbrandon> ubumail.
[12:12] <imbrandon> hum ok if i do run a "contest" for a domain name , any sugestions on collecting the data ? i hate to have it all jumbled in say comments to a blogpost
[12:19] <imbrandon> later ajmitch
[12:20] <zul> zulrocksyoursocksoff.net
[12:20] <imbrandon> heh
[12:20] <ajmitch> hah
[12:21] <imbrandon> bddebianisagod.net
[12:21] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:21] <ajmitch> yeah, that may put a few people off
[12:21] <imbrandon> hehe SLEEP !!
[12:21] <zul> this channel is logged isnt it ;)
[12:21] <imbrandon> yea
[12:21] <imbrandon> afaik all *ubuntu* are
[12:21] <imbrandon> atleaste most
[12:23] <imbrandon> irunubuntu.com
[12:27] <cbx33> nn ajmitch
[12:29] <imbrandon> heya cbx33
[12:29] <cbx33> hi imbrandon
[12:29] <cbx33> howz it going?
[12:29] <imbrandon> good good
[12:29] <cbx33> excellent
[12:29] <cbx33> busy busy I take it?
[12:29] <imbrandon> finished stage one of the motu farm
[12:29] <imbrandon> yea lately really busy
[12:30] <imbrandon> and thinking about a new project heheh
[12:30] <imbrandon> as seen above
[12:30] <cbx33> awesome
[12:31] <cbx33> I only saw it from thinking of a contest for a doamin name ;)
[12:31] <imbrandon> 04:54 < imbrandon> any sugestions ona  catchy ubuntuish domain for free jabber/webmail for general users?
[12:31] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:31] <cbx33> ahhh nice
[12:32] <zul> meh...fsf sucks..
[12:32] <cbx33> jabuntmail
[12:32] <cbx33> heh
[12:32] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:32] <cbx33> yeh....I clearly havn't woken up yet
[12:32] <imbrandon> i-r-heart-ubuntu.net
[12:33] <cbx33> hehe
[12:33] <cbx33> imbrandon, you're a KDE dude
[12:34] <cbx33> how hard is it to start deving gui apps for the kde environment
[12:34] <imbrandon> heya hoora_214
[12:34] <imbrandon> err Hobbsee
[12:34] <imbrandon> damn tab button
[12:34] <imbrandon> lol
[12:34] <imbrandon> cbx33, quite easy if you go the pyqt route, basic apps in less than a day
[12:35] <cbx33> hi Hobbsee
[12:35] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:35] <Hobbsee> hey cbx33 :)
[12:35] <imbrandon> s/pyqt/pykde also
[12:35] <cbx33> imbrandon, see I've been working on TCM recently
[12:35] <cbx33> and we split it into front end backend
[12:35] <cbx33> so that we could develop a KDE front end
[12:35] <cbx33> at the moment no one has stepped forward
[12:35] <cbx33> so I'm thinking I may do it
[12:36] <cbx33> obviously not this release
[12:36] <gnomefreak> what do i doo with this error? its during pbuiilder build. checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:36] <imbrandon> right on, thats what ubiguity etc does, pygtk / py{qt,kde}
[12:36] <cbx33> I'd not have time but maybe next - is it clode to pygtk?
[12:36] <cbx33> s/clode/close
[12:36] <imbrandon> yea
[12:36] <cbx33> same method of working?
[12:36] <cbx33> signal handlers etc?
[12:36] <imbrandon> yup
[12:37] <imbrandon> just no .glade's, use qtdesigner to make .ui's then pyuic to convert them to .py and off you go
[12:37] <imbrandon> or import kde and the .ui directly and no pyuic needed
[12:37] <imbrandon> depends on how you like to work
[12:38] <cbx33> yeh
[12:38] <cbx33> well i use glade quite a lot
[12:38] <cbx33> but also do a lot of it by hand
[12:38] <StevenK> imbrandon: Is the ppc build.i.c up?
[12:38] <cbx33> like signal connecting that kinda thing
[12:38] <imbrandon> if you use glade to do your pygtk apps , qt designer and pyqt/pykde will be right at home to you
[12:38] <cbx33> what's the diff with pykde and pyqt?
[12:38] <imbrandon> StevenK, not yet, i have to reload it, i fubard it last night
[12:39] <StevenK> imbrandon: Bozo! :-P
[12:39] <imbrandon> cbx33, pyqt is pure qt and pykde has the kde extensions
[12:39] <imbrandon> see this is where gnome people get confused
[12:39] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:39] <cbx33> hehe
[12:39] <cbx33> indeed
[12:39] <imbrandon> ok think about it like this , gtk != gnome
[12:39] <cbx33> we gnomeians are simple folk
[12:39] <imbrandon> qt != kde
[12:40] <imbrandon> qt is just the widgets , kde is the widgest plus more kde specific widgets ( like html widgets etc ) that are qt overrides and plus some other nongui libs
[12:41] <imbrandon> kinda like the relationship between gtk and gnomelibs
[12:41] <StevenK> imbrandon: Re-read that "qt is just..." sentence and cringe...
[12:41] <imbrandon> whereas gtk != gnome but gnome == gtk+++
[12:42] <imbrandon> StevenK, hehe, its hard to explain, but i think he see's what i'm getting aty
[12:42] <imbrandon> s/y//
[12:42] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: or glade and gtk?
[12:42] <Hobbsee> maybe?
[12:42] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: where's amarok, btw?
[12:42] <imbrandon> nah, glade is qt designer of gtk
[12:43] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, sitting on my hdd , i had to wait till mith pushed libgpod 0.4.2
[12:43] <imbrandon> it will get uploaded this morning
[12:43] <imbrandon> plus i couldent upload it before the 4th tech anyhow since thats when they will release it "publicly"
[12:43] <imbrandon> :)
[12:43] <imbrandon> but its built and ready to go
[12:44] <imbrandon> built*
[12:44] <imbrandon> err
[12:44] <imbrandon> nvm
[12:44] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: did it push correctly?
[12:44] <imbrandon> did what push correc5tly?
[12:44] <Hobbsee> libgpod
[12:44] <imbrandon> yea about an hour ago it did
[12:44] <imbrandon> its built now as of 5am my time
[12:45] <imbrandon> thus i'll upload amarok 1.4.5 here in a few ( but i cant backport it or announce it for 18+ hours because amarok team hasent officialy released it yet )
[12:45] <imbrandon> and they tend to get mad when that happens
[12:45] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:45] <cbx33> i get it imbrandon
[12:45] <Hobbsee> cool
[12:45] <cbx33> thanks
[12:46] <Hobbsee> yeah, but you can give us prerelease debs for testing.
[12:46] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: you fixed teh bugs assigned to me, presumably?
[12:46] <imbrandon> they are in the results dir on build.imbrandon.com
[12:46] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, most of them, i'll get the rest before i upload
[12:46] <Hobbsee> cool
[12:46] <Hobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ ssh imbrandon
[12:46] <Hobbsee> ssh: connect to host build.imbrandon.com port 5022: Connection refused
[12:47] <imbrandon> not 5022
[12:47] <imbrandon> just 22
[12:47] <imbrandon> its a brand new box
[12:47] <imbrandon> new rules , accounts from LP etc etc etc
[12:47] <imbrandon> i need to write up some docs about it
[12:47] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: nice of you to actually...you know...tell the people who have shells on it :)
[12:47] <imbrandon> maybe i'll do that today and email them to -devel
[12:48] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: somerville's been wanting to know waht's happening
[12:48] <StevenK> Like sysadmins notify people.
[12:48] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:48] <imbrandon> yea all of ubuntu{,-core}-dev has accounts
[12:48] <imbrandon> and somerville isnt a motu yet
[12:48] <imbrandon> so no account for him , got to limit it somehow
[12:49] <Hobbsee> ahh, i thought that you said you had given him an account.  or that was his belief, anyway
[12:49] <imbrandon> i did on the old old old voyager box
[12:49] <imbrandon> not since i made the "farm"
[12:50] <imbrandon> this one automaticly gets the ssh keys from LP for those groups and makes acounts based on your LP name
[12:50] <imbrandon> and imports new keys every few hours
[12:50] <imbrandon> so less "admin" for me
[12:50] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:50] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: precisely *which* results dir?  the one i was expecting has nothing
[12:51] <imbrandon>  /storage/pbuilders/feisty/results
[12:51] <imbrandon> if its not there i need to make a new run of it
[12:51] <Hobbsee> hobbsee@aurora:/storage/pbuilders/feisty/result$ ls -la
[12:51] <imbrandon> i need to make a new run of it anyhow
[12:51] <Hobbsee> total 0
[12:51] <Hobbsee> drwxrwxr-t 2 imbrandon imbrandon  48 2007-02-02 08:31 .
[12:51] <Hobbsee> drwxr-xr-x 6 imbrandon imbrandon 208 2007-02-02 07:20 ..
[12:51] <imbrandon> actualy
[12:51] <Hobbsee> seems os
[12:51] <imbrandon> yea
[12:51] <Hobbsee> *so
[12:51] <imbrandon> i'll make a rebuild here in a few minutes then
[12:51] <Hobbsee> grab the bugs assigned to me when you do :)
[12:51] <imbrandon> i will
[12:52] <gnomefreak> these are the last lines of sudo pbuilder-feisty build ../*.dsc.  http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338389  is there something im missing?
[12:52] <Hobbsee> !xincludes
[12:52] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[12:52] <imbrandon> looks like its missing a build-dep gnomefreak
[12:52] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: ^
[12:53] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: but see teh description of it first
[12:54] <gnomefreak> ok ill try it again. ive been missing depends all over the place so ive been adding them one by one and the errors go away :)
[12:55] <Hobbsee> yep :)
[01:05] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, new test build started so you can play with it, but not all the fixes are in there yet
[01:05] <imbrandon> i'll let you know when its done
[01:05] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: cool, okay
[01:18] <gnomefreak> in the build depends do i libart2 and libart2-dev or can i just go with all -dev packages and forget the non -dev ones?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> libart2 was example i already fixed the libart depedns
[01:21] <StevenK> You should just be able to get away with the -dev packages, since they mostly all depend on the library packages anyway
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ok cool if it fails to build this time i wil replace all reg. packages and just use the -dev ones (does this go with libc6 also?
[01:22] <StevenK> You do not need to Build-Depend on libc6-dev
[01:22] <gnomefreak> k
[01:22] <StevenK> If it's in build-essential, don't add it to Build-Depends
[01:22] <gnomefreak> k :)
[01:31] <Fujitsu> siretart, around?
[01:42] <imbrandon> wow the FSF gonna screw Novell ?
[01:46] <phanatic> imbrandon: i hope they won't. that would be stupid
[01:51] <gnomefreak> fsf?
[01:52] <phanatic> gnomefreak: have a look at /.
[01:52] <imbrandon> free software foundation , e.g. the copyright holder to all GNU software
[01:52] <imbrandon> gnomefreak, ^^
[01:52] <gnomefreak> ah
[01:53] <imbrandon> phanatic, actualy i think it would be fantastic, make a deal with the devil and lay in your own bed after its made
[01:54] <imbrandon> gnomefreak, screwed again ? your still being screwed every day that goes by that they havent abolished the deal with MS
[01:55] <gnomefreak> true
[02:03] <zul> meh...politics
[02:08] <imbrandon> http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno
[02:11] <gnomefreak> should i try updating pbuilder to fix the makefile.in error above
[02:13] <gnomefreak> lmao @ that link
[02:16] <elkbuntu> lol
[02:21] <gnomefreak> ok found a makefile.in in the Cmake dir. can i just mkdir /path/scribus/doc and copy the makefile.in to the new doc folder?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> the common mistake page doesnt even list this issue. but i think im gonna eat breakfast than figure the makefile issue out
[02:29] <zakame> evening all
[02:30] <zakame> can someone check out my update on wlassistant on revu? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4252
[02:41] <cbx33> hi does anyone know the bug number of the bug which causes the d-i to crash when scanning for cd rom
[02:41] <cbx33> I know I have to turn off an option on the kernel line
[02:41] <cbx33> but I can't remember what it is
[02:42] <cbx33> something/pcmcia=false i think
[02:42] <cbx33> anyone shed any light?
[02:42] <phanatic> cbx33: it's mentioned in the herd3 announcement
[02:42] <cbx33> ahh thanks phanatic
[02:43] <zakame> hi allee
[02:43] <allee> zakame: hi, news from wlassistant? :)
[02:43] <zakame> I've prepared the new wlassistant, its on revu: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4252
[02:44] <allee> zakame: cool!! I'll have a look
[02:46] <zakame> thanks :) not much has changed, although I've to edit the interfaces diff a bit
[02:46] <zakame> also I've still to check if my run-parts integration is correct, although it seems fine when I tested it
[02:48] <allee> zakame: I've to find a AP without WPA before I can test
[03:34] <gnomefreak> pbuilder creates makefiles.* but doesnt create makefile.in. is there something that I and doing wrong or is this pbuilder. here is the error i get: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338507
[03:35] <zakame> gnomefreak: did you try rebuilding the autotools stuff?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> i just ran update for pbuilder and trying it again but startange feeling updating pbuilder isnt gonna help
[03:35] <gnomefreak> zakame: no how do i go about that?
[03:37] <zakame> gnomefreak: no, I mean did you update the package-to-be-built's autotools stuff (touching configure.in, Makefile.am, etc) before trying to build?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> no
[03:39] <gnomefreak> i was building this for the most part from the packaging guide and it didnt say anything about that
[03:40] <zakame> oh
[03:41] <zakame> can you paste a full buildlog, I mean the stuff right before your previous paste?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> yeah it should be done soon the other one is lost a little further up from where i gave you
[03:46] <gnomefreak> zakame: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338519 if i need to go higher up let me know i just changes the scrollback and wont let me go much further without restarting term
[03:47] <zakame> gnomefreak: the trick is in `pbuilder ... 2>&1 | tee ../buildlog` ;)
[03:47] <zakame> and pasting ../buildlog
[03:47] <gnomefreak> im gonna have to rebuild this i think im looking at it and there is a typo on one of the file names that i fixed and pbuilder doesnt loo like it changed with my change
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ./scribbus-ng-debhelper should only have 1 b in scribus
[03:50] <gnomefreak> unless you see something else
[03:52] <gnomefreak> thats exactly what it is
[03:52] <gnomefreak> ill rebuild it from scratch and see what happens thank you
[04:17] <bddebian> Heya gang
[04:17] <zakame> yo bddebian!
[04:18] <bddebian> Hi zakame
[04:31] <imbrandon> heya bddebian
[04:32] <bddebian> Hi imbrandon
[04:50] <gnomefreak> damn typo caused issues for 18 hours *slaps self hard*
[04:56] <zakame> gnomefreak: awww
[04:57] <gnomefreak> in about an hour we will find out if it fails again.
[04:57] <zakame> takes that long to build?
[04:57] <gnomefreak> zakame: i cleared pbuilder and ther eare alot of depends
[04:57] <gnomefreak> there are
[04:58] <zakame> ah
[04:58] <cbx33> eeek
[04:58] <cbx33> what was the typo in gnomefreak ?
[04:58] <gnomefreak> 118 of them
[04:59] <cbx33> dang it
[04:59] <gnomefreak> cbx33: scribbus instead of scribus one of the commands i ran (thinking dh_make) put that typo in control and changelog
[05:00] <cbx33> noooo
[05:00] <gnomefreak> if i can find a way to shortent he depends i will think about it
[05:01] <gnomefreak> it may have been when i renamed the file to -debhelper but its all fixed now for the time being
[05:23] <gnomefreak> such pretty colors when there are no errors :)
[05:53] <cbx33> gnomefreak, pretty colours?
[05:54] <cbx33> can someone help me out with mychroot?  I't not able to access the internet at all
[05:54] <gnomefreak> yeah pink green blue
[05:54] <cbx33> pretty colours for what?
[05:54] <gnomefreak> while its building (maybe plugins)
[05:55] <cbx33> oooh....you got me interested now ;)
[05:55] <cbx33> hehe
[05:55] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:55] <gnomefreak> you mean this isnt normal?
[05:55] <cbx33> i have proc mounted in the fstab
[05:55] <cbx33> but my chroot still isn't accessing the internet
[05:55] <cbx33> any ideas
[05:55] <cbx33> gnomefreak, I've never seen it
[05:56] <cbx33> ahhh
[05:56] <cbx33> think i got it
[05:57] <gnomefreak> doesnt seem so colorful the second time around :(
[05:57] <cbx33> i wanna see
[05:57] <cbx33> :(
[05:57] <ScottK> cbx33: I haven't had to change mounts when I did a chroot.
[05:57] <cbx33> it was my resolv.conf
[05:58] <gnomefreak> i forgot to log the build the first time so im doing it again so we will see if it gets pretty
[05:58] <ScottK> Ah
[05:58] <ScottK> So you have it working now?
[05:58] <cbx33> yup
[05:58] <ScottK> OK.
[05:59] <gnomefreak> ScottK: i dont know perl either
[05:59] <gnomefreak> people*
[05:59] <cbx33> gnomefreak, i'm curoius how are you/where are you building
[05:59] <gnomefreak> in pbuilder
[06:00] <cbx33> i don't get pretty colours
[06:00] <gnomefreak> wonders if i have a term log
[06:00] <cbx33> gnome/kde?
[06:00] <gnomefreak> gnome
[06:00] <cbx33> gnome-terminal?
[06:00] <gnomefreak> yes
[06:01] <cbx33> I don;t get pretty colours
[06:01] <cbx33> must be a shell thing
[06:01] <cbx33> i pbuild all the time
[06:01] <gnomefreak> it might be
[06:03] <gnomefreak> this time no colors
[06:04] <cbx33> are you pbuilding in feisty#?
[06:04] <gnomefreak> cbx33: yes
[06:04] <cbx33> ah
[06:04] <cbx33> maybe fesity pbuilder has colours
[06:05] <gnomefreak> next one i build we will find out. this one i hoping is for the most part done
[06:06] <cbx33> ok
[06:10] <imbrandon> i build in feisty and have no colours :(
[06:10] <imbrandon> anyhow bbiab
[06:13] <cbx33> gnomefreak, where did you get these pretty colours from
[06:13] <cbx33> we must fid out
[06:13] <gnomefreak> no sure
[06:13] <gnomefreak> maybe terminal settings
[06:13] <cbx33> it is my lifes mission
[06:13] <cbx33> u use standard
[06:13] <cbx33> gnome-terminal
[06:13] <cbx33> ?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> i dont think so
[06:13] <cbx33> oh what you use?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> ill post the conf
[06:14] <cbx33> heheh
[06:14] <cbx33> sorry
[06:14] <cbx33> just realluy interested
[06:14] <phanatic> hey coNP
[06:15] <coNP> hey phanatic & all!
[06:16] <gnomefreak> cbx33: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338701
[06:16] <cbx33> thanks
[06:17] <gnomefreak> np
[06:18] <cbx33> though I can't see anything relating directly to pbuilder there
[06:18] <gnomefreak> nope
[06:19] <cbx33> was it pbuider or make output ?
[06:20] <gnomefreak> it was pbuilder-feisty <command>
[06:21] <cbx33> is pbuilder-fesity an alias?
[06:21] <Nafallo> no, it's a small script
[06:22] <gnomefreak> its Laser's script iirc
[06:22] <cbx33> ahh
[06:22] <gnomefreak> someone care to tell me if this is bad? http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338705
[06:22] <Nafallo> no
[06:22] <gnomefreak> those are ok?
[06:22] <Nafallo> it's included in pbuilder
[06:22] <gnomefreak> oh
[06:23] <Nafallo> /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/ or so
[06:42] <imbrandon> gnomefreak, in other words delete debian/*.{ex,EX}
[06:42] <imbrandon> and fix your X build deps
[06:42] <gnomefreak> oh i can cool :)
[06:42] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:42] <gnomefreak> x build deps?
[06:42] <imbrandon> #
[06:42] <imbrandon> E: scribus-ng-debhelper source: build-depends-on-obsolete-package build-depends: xlibs-dev
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <imbrandon> N:
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <imbrandon> N:   The package build-depends on a package that has been superseded.
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <gnomefreak> ah ok i can work that out
[06:43] <imbrandon> N:
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <imbrandon> E: scribus-ng-debhelper source: build-depends-on-x-metapackage build-depends: xorg-dev
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <imbrandon> N:
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <imbrandon> N:   Packages must not build-depend on X Window System metapackages.
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <imbrandon> N:
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <Nafallo> imbrandon: pastebin next time. oki?
[06:43] <imbrandon> N:   The metapackages xorg, xorg-dev, x-window-system, x-window-system-dev,
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <imbrandon> N:   and x-window-system-core exist only for the benefit of users and
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <imbrandon> N:   should not be used in package build dependencies.
[06:43] <imbrandon> #
[06:43] <imbrandon> N:errr
[06:43] <imbrandon> whoops
[06:44] <imbrandon> but yea , that ^^
[06:44] <Nafallo> :-P
[06:44] <gnomefreak> will look into it today ty :)
[07:17] <gnomefreak> well i dont see any depends errors :) its building so we shall see
[07:38] <gnomefreak> now i only have one warning. if someone gets time how do i fix this or does it need to be fixed at all? http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338811
[07:39] <ScottK> Would you pastebind debian/changelog?
[07:40] <ScottK> *pastebin
[07:40] <ScottK> gnomefreak: ^^^
[07:44] <gnomefreak> yep
[07:45] <gnomefreak> http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338820
[07:45] <gnomefreak> ScottK: thats the changlog :(
[07:46] <gnomefreak> i didnt know if i should add ubuntu's changelog to it
[07:46] <gnomefreak> oops that should be sat
[07:46] <gnomefreak> but i doubt that s the issue
[07:46] <crimsun> you're probably missing the orig.tar.gz
[07:47] <crimsun> where's the upstream tarball?
[07:47] <geser> gnomefreak: what's the filename for the orig.tar.gz?
[07:47] <gnomefreak> ah let me see
[07:48] <gnomefreak> its in the folder i made for building this and its called scribus-ng_<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg.orig.tar.gz
[07:48] <gnomefreak> folder i made so i didnt clutter up ~/
[07:49] <crimsun> that's precisely why you're getting the error.
[07:49] <crimsun> note the name of the source package in debian/changelog
[07:49] <crimsun> then compare that with the name of your orig.tar.gz
[07:50] <gnomefreak> but the guide told me to add -debhelper to it
[07:50] <gnomefreak> oh the -1
[07:50] <gnomefreak> ok removed the -1 from the end is that all?
[07:50] <crimsun> no, it's the part in the orig.tar.gz before the _
[07:51] <crimsun> your changelog entry uses scribus-ng-debhelper
[07:51] <gnomefreak> k
[07:51] <crimsun> therefore your orig.tar.gz must be named scribus-ng-debhelper_<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg.orig.tar.gz
[07:51] <crimsun> I'm not convinced, however, that's what you want. What are you attempting?
[07:51] <gnomefreak> ok can i just rename it?
[07:52] <crimsun> Are you generating a new binary package from the scribus-ng source package?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> bulding this package since ours is a lower version
[07:52] <gnomefreak> yes
[07:52] <crimsun> ok, so no, you're not generating a new binary package from the scribus-ng source package; instead you're generating a newer upstream version of the source package.
[07:52] <gnomefreak> oh thats not good
[07:53] <crimsun> I'm pretty certain that's what you want, in fact.
[07:53] <crimsun> however--
[07:54] <geser> gnomefreak: take the current package in Ubuntu and uupdate to the new upstream version
[07:54] <gnomefreak> so instead of building it in debian dir build it in ubuntu dir?
[07:54] <crimsun> if you're targeting feisty, use what geser stated, or (and this is preferred) file a sync request against feisty's current scribus-ng source package requesting a sync from Debian unstable/main
[07:55] <gnomefreak> i thought that was only for merges
[07:55] <geser> Debian has a newer version?
[07:55] <geser> than sync from it
[07:56] <crimsun> use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scribus-ng/+filebug , and follow https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-August/000181.html
[07:56] <crimsun> afterward, subscribe the ubuntu-universe-sponsors LP team
[07:57] <gnomefreak> k
[08:04] <gnomefreak> they want the changelog in the ubuntu debian dir. right?
[08:06] <geser> for the sync request?
[08:06] <gnomefreak> yes
[08:07] <geser> copy all new changelog entries (from the Debian package) after <IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-1
[08:07] <gnomefreak> there wasnt any
[08:07] <geser> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/scribus-ng/current/changelog
[08:07] <gnomefreak> come to this about it there had to be
[08:08] <gnomefreak> ty
[08:08] <geser> you need to copy the changelog entry for <IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-1
[08:08] <gnomefreak> ah oops
[08:11] <geser> that's the only one after the version which is currently in feisty
[08:12] <geser> you may want to test in a pbuilder if the package from Debian builds on Ubuntu
[08:12] <gnomefreak> i had it already just had to look for it
[08:14] <gnomefreak> its done. i uploaded the whole file just incase they needed more
[08:16] <Adri2000> geser: can you look at this sync request https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv/+bug/83086 ? there is an ubuntu change to drop, but I think we should rather keep it, what do you think?
[08:16] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83086 in opencv "[Sync Request]  opencv (1.0.0-1) from debian experimental/main to universe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[08:17] <geser> currenty looking at it
[08:18] <Adri2000> the change is:
[08:18] <Adri2000> -Replaces: python2.3-opencv (<= 0.9.7-3)
[08:18] <Adri2000> +Replaces: python2.3-opencv (<= 0.9.7-3), python2.4-opencv (<= 0.9.7-3)
[08:18] <Adri2000> and same with Conflicts:
[08:22] <geser> Adri2000: it needs to be merged
[08:39] <geser> gnomefreak: you should add the *new* changelog entry not the ones we already have
[08:39] <geser> gnomefreak: I've added the missing parts and ACKed it
[08:52] <ajmitch> morning
[08:52] <geser> hi ajmitch
[10:37] <gnomefreak> thank you geser
[10:40] <geser> np
[10:41] <Adri2000> geser: I will upload the opencv merge, ok?
[10:47] <Adri2000> and also, I will upload mozilla-stumbleupon (merge)
[10:48] <geser> Adri2000: it's ok with me
[11:17] <LaserJock> sure is busy around here
[11:34] <TheMuso> Hey MOTUs.
[11:35] <geser> hi TheMuso
[11:38] <LaserJock> hi TheMuso
[11:38] <TheMuso> Hey LaserJock. Was the conference successful?
[11:42] <LaserJock> pretty much
[11:43] <LaserJock> people seemed to like my poster ok
[11:43] <LaserJock> and I got some potential postdoc contacts
[12:06] <nixternal> LaserJock: latex question for you
[12:06] <nixternal> in order to fix this bug for Plucker documentation, it has to build .tex files
[12:06] <nixternal> and also in the configure.in I noticed latex2html
[12:07] <nixternal> if I was to depend on latex2html it in turn depends on tetex*.
[12:08] <nixternal> and this will build out the tex files. do you know of any "shortcuts" as the tetex-* downloads are fairly large
[12:08] <nixternal> for a depend
[12:08] <nixternal> actually, probably wouldn't be so bad but the us.archive suck for me