[02:49] <philipballew> has anyone here used team viewer?
[03:24] <locodir-user> hi
[03:25] <philipballew> locodir-user, hi
[03:31] <locodir-user> hi, a have a problem with ubuntu 11.10
[03:32] <locodir-user> after the update, i did the reboot, and when everything supposly start to load , just stop in a black screen, saying that apache2 is looking for a network
[03:33] <philipballew> locodir-user, your running apache? is this a server?
[03:33] <akk> I hate boot scripts that assume a network is there.
[03:33] <locodir-user> no, that's the point, is not a server
[03:34] <akk> Usually they'll time out after a while, but sometimes it's a LONG while. Does control-C help at all?
[03:34] <locodir-user> i did not try that
[03:35] <locodir-user> i'been looking for the way to fix my pc, since eysterday in the morning
[03:35] <philipballew> well irc is a pretty good place for that
[03:35] <akk> Some versions pay attention to control-c at boot time, some don't, and I don't know if oneiric does.
[03:36] <akk> It's always worth trying. Otherwise, you could try ctl-alt-F2 to see if you can get a login prompt
[03:36] <akk> or else boot in single-user mode and remove or disable apache, then reboot
[03:36] <locodir-user> how i can do that?
[03:36] <philipballew> I wonder if you can just drop to a root shell
[03:36] <locodir-user> boot in single user
[03:37] <locodir-user> i can do that
[03:37] <locodir-user> get a shell
[03:37] <locodir-user> and i can acces my HD
[03:37] <locodir-user> i tried modifing a file in the etc folder
[03:37] <locodir-user> but nothing
[03:39] <crashsystems> Does anyone have any ideas for getting Ubuntu to ether install install security updates upon shutdown, or prevent users from shutting down while updates are running? I've got a bunch of end-user laptop workstations I need to have automatic security updates for without worrying about users breaking things by shutting down at the wrong moment.
[03:39] <akk> you could do something like chmod 000 /etc/init.d/apache2 (or /etc/init/apache2, I don't have an oneiric install here yet) to disable apache.
[03:39] <akk> Assuming you want to keep it installed -- if you don't, then just apt-get remove apache2
[03:39] <akk> maybe make that apt-get purge apache2
[03:41] <locodir-user> what could be better, purge or remove apache2?
[03:42] <akk> crashsystems: You can make upstart run something on shutdown, I'm pretty sure ... or else poke around in /etc/init.d, there's probably some shutdown stuff there.
[03:42] <crashsystems> hmm, I'll look into that
[03:42] <akk> crashsystems: /etc/init.d/killprocs is run on shutdown, I think (upon going to runlevel 1, looks like)
[03:43] <crashsystems> I'd like to think that the unattended-upgrade package would handle it, but I've not found anything that says how that package handles unexpected shutdowns.
[03:43] <akk> though going to runlevel 1 probably happens at startup too, and maybe booting to single-user mode
[03:44] <akk> I don't know either (about unattended-upgrade and shutdowns) -- would be useful to know.
[03:44] <akk> Maybe you should test it. :)
[03:44] <crashsystems> yeah, I'll likely throw an ubuntu instance on my virtualization server to test that out
[03:44] <akk> But apt-get is pretty well behaved about being interrupted -- worst that happens is it doesn't finish downloading, and continues next time.
[03:45] <akk> It still has everything it downloaded so far, and can continue where it left off.
[03:45] <crashsystems> yeah, apt-get handles it pretty nice, but once packages are downloaded if dpkg is running while the shutdown happens, crazy stuff happens.
[03:45] <akk> ah, true, that might not be so good
[03:46] <crashsystems> I'm looking to make a very light weight ubuntu image that just boots to a fullscreen chrome browser. I'd not worry about updates at all except I want to make sure the browser and flash are up to date.
[03:46] <philipballew> pleia2, you have a quick second for a ssh question?
[03:53] <crashsystems> I'm considering writing a little python script to just issue a shutdown cancel command whenever shutdown is started while the dpkg lock file is present, then use the ubuntu notification system to tell users that updates are currently running.
[16:44] <jtatum> Greetings folks in the south bay! Mountain View Ubuntu hour this Thursday
[16:45] <jtatum> pleia2: when you have a free moment (you must be busy with returning from travel), could you please ping twitter?
[16:46] <pleia2> jtatum: we do the twitter announcements on the day of the events
[16:46] <pleia2> mailing list and web forums for actual announcements
[16:47] <jtatum> okie dokie
[16:47] <jtatum> thanks :)
[16:48] <pleia2> dinda will be in town this week, I'll fwd this along to her
[16:49] <pleia2> I have an americas board meeting that night, but I can probably arrive to the hour late
[16:49] <akk> I'm in town for once, too.
[16:50] <jtatum> great!
[16:51] <jtatum> i will set aside some decals for you both :)
[16:54] <bkerensa> =o
[16:55] <akk> yay decals
[17:01] <Darkwing> Hey guys
[17:14] <MarkDude> hey Darkwing
[17:14] <MarkDude> So bkerensa is in the elite now with that tattoo
[17:14] <MarkDude> Hardcore
[17:20] <jyo> Hooray Mt. View Ubuntu Hour.
[17:45] <bkerensa> pleia2: Are you about?
[17:47] <pleia2> sorta, working, what's up?
[17:48] <bkerensa> pleia2: Can I pm my wiki just to run it by you before I put myself on Agenda?
[17:48]  * bkerensa is not sure what the typical application looks like
[17:48] <pleia2> sure
[17:48] <pleia2> unfortunately the agenda page is broken at the moment
[17:48] <bkerensa> =o
[17:48] <bkerensa> oh
[18:16]  * MarkDude wrote endorsement bkerensa
[18:30] <MarkDude> Nice pangolin pleia2
[18:31] <pleia2> bkerensa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas is editable again :)
[18:39] <bkerensa> pleia2: You guys tamed that Python
[18:39] <bkerensa> :D
[18:39] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Thanks I will do check
[19:55] <MarkDude> bkerensa, the wiki is NOT allowing me to login
[19:55] <gua> "sorry mark, can't let you do that"
[19:57] <MarkDude> lol
[19:57] <MarkDude> thx Hal
[20:26] <bkerensa> MarkDude: What do you mean it wont let you login?
[20:26] <MarkDude> Standard LP stuff
[20:26] <bkerensa> MarkDude: You can e-mail it to me and Ill add it in?
[20:26]  * MarkDude did it tho
[20:26] <bkerensa> ?
[20:26] <MarkDude> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bkerensa/Plugs
[20:26] <bkerensa> oh
[20:26] <MarkDude> took a minute
[20:26] <MarkDude> waited
[20:26] <MarkDude> THEN it let me
[20:26]  * MarkDude has NEVER like LP
[20:27] <MarkDude> always buggy as all get out
[20:27] <MarkDude> IMHO
[20:27] <MarkDude> done tho :D
[20:27]  * MarkDude even included a {*}
[20:27] <MarkDude> renders like your new tattoo ;)
[20:29] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Jono's Blog - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/17/ubuntu-tat/ (Badass has a new name)
[22:41] <zoclo> hi guys
[22:41] <zoclo> i have a problem
[22:43] <zoclo> some one in riverside Ca?
[22:43] <MarkDude> What sorta problem zoclo ?
[22:44] <zoclo> after update to ubuntu 11.10 in can not start ubuntu
[22:48] <zoclo> a program called "nanny" is stoping the process
[22:48] <nhaines> zoclo: can you share the exact error message that demonstrates this?
[22:49] <zoclo> yes
[22:49] <zoclo> is: nanny Stopping Sistem V runlevel compativility
[22:49] <zoclo> that's the error
[22:50]  * MarkDude was hoping it was simpler, thats not really a question I can help with :)
[22:50] <MarkDude> Sry
[22:51] <zoclo> i tried with aptitude
[22:53] <zoclo> but just instaled and deleted some packages
[22:53] <akk> Maybe delete nanny? (whatever it is)
[22:54] <zoclo> but how?
[22:54] <zoclo> i can not go to shell to tri it
[22:54] <akk> I was about to ask how you were running aptitude to install and delete things.
[22:55] <zoclo> when you go to shell, with control D
[22:55] <zoclo> you type aptitude
[22:55] <zoclo> and it opens a new window
[22:55] <zoclo> and you have different options
[22:56] <zoclo> the last one is upgrade,install,delete
[22:56] <pleia2> zoclo: is this on a desktop?
[22:56] <zoclo> no
[22:56] <pleia2> a VPS?
[22:56] <zoclo> in user@user:#
[22:57] <pleia2> I don't understand, is this a server you run, or something that's hosted somewhere, or..?
[22:58] <zoclo> no
[22:58] <zoclo> is a regular pc
[22:58] <zoclo> that's the point,
[22:58] <zoclo> after the update from 11.04 to 11.10, this apear in my screen
[23:00] <zoclo> and don't let me start ubuntu
[23:01] <bkerensa> brb rebooting Ubuntu Cloud
[23:02] <nhaines> I always know what the answer is going to be, even before I ask it, but I'll do it anyway.
[23:02] <nhaines> zoclo: did you back up all of your files and data before you upgraded to oneiric?
[23:02] <zoclo> no
[23:03] <nhaines> Okay, so the fun thing about Linux is that almost every problem has an answer and can be fixed.  That's the good news.
[23:03] <zoclo> but if i have to save at leastmy pics inDVDs i doit
[23:04] <nhaines> The better news is that you can also use a Desktop CD to boot your machine, copy all of your data to DVD or to an external hard drive, and then reinstall Ubuntu.
[23:04] <zoclo> im using a ubuntu 9something to have acces to the internet
[23:05] <nhaines> zoclo: are you using an older computer with Ubuntu 9.x installed or are you using an old Ubuntu 9.x CD on the same computer to access the Internet?
[23:06] <zoclo> using an old ubuntu, in the same computer
[23:07] <zoclo> and i don't have problems at all,to see my files
[23:07] <nhaines> No, of course.  That's the nice thing--everything will still be there.  :)
[23:07] <zoclo> yes
[23:08] <nhaines> Okay, if I were sitting in front of the computer I'd take a look at it but since I'm not, I think I'll recommend backing up your home directory and reinstalling.
[23:08] <zoclo> im lucky, if not, i could be dead already
[23:08] <nhaines> If you've been upgrading Ubuntu since 9.x, then you'll probably have a smoother experience installing 11.10 fresh, too.
[23:08] <zoclo> back up   home?
[23:08] <zoclo> in the same HD?
[23:08] <nhaines> Different hard drive.
[23:09] <zoclo> i only have one
[23:11] <nhaines> Do you have a USB drive or a second drive that is a CD/DVD burner?
[23:12] <zoclo> no
[23:12] <zoclo> the only one is the one im using to run the live cd
[23:13] <nhaines> That makes it very difficult to back up your computer.
[23:13] <zoclo> i know
[23:13] <zoclo> but if i can acces the shell
[23:13] <zoclo> i think i can delete nanny
[23:13] <nhaines> Do you know how big your home directory is?
[23:14] <zoclo> what if i delete the folder from the HD?
[23:14] <zoclo> the nanny folder?
[23:14] <zoclo> could work?
[23:14] <nhaines> That won't work.
[23:15] <nhaines> What happens if you boot from the hard drive, hold down Shift so you get a GRUB menu, and try the (recovery) option?
[23:15] <zoclo> that easy?
[23:15] <zoclo> let me try
[23:15] <zoclo> if don
[23:15] <zoclo> work i'll be back in a moment
[23:16] <zoclo> jiji
[23:16] <zoclo> over and out
[23:18] <nhaines> Anyone else feel free to take over (or keep an eye on this) because I unfortunately have to leave work pretty much at 5 and get some errands done.  It's a very busy week.


[13:17] <tomixxx> hi, can i add the maas-server itself as a node=?
[15:40] <tomixxx> hi, what can i do that the nodes in my maas-environment download their things from the maas-server?
[15:40] <tomixxx> i cannot resolve any package like archive.ubuntu.com
[15:40] <tomixxx> the problem is, that juju does not work either, in case package resolving does not work...
[16:42] <tomixxx> hi, i have the following network configuraiton: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6867969/
[16:43] <tomixxx> my maas-server is connected to its nodes via eth0 but my nodes cannot download any package
[16:43] <tomixxx> eth1 has access to internet
[16:43] <tomixxx> so my question is, do i need to bridge both interfaces in some way?
[22:38] <21WACCDQH> tomixxx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/320121/simple-port-forwarding
[23:20] <roaksoax> bigjools: howyd!! crochet has just been accep[ted in universe, so should be in the archives in the next few hours
[23:20] <bigjools> roaksoax: hurray!
[23:21] <bigjools> I presume there's a MIR for it too?
[23:21] <roaksoax> bigjools: indeed, will be filling a MIR tomorrow
[23:21] <bigjools> coolio
[23:21] <roaksoax> cool
[23:21] <roaksoax> anyuways, i'm done for the day
[23:21] <roaksoax> ttyl!


[09:42] <bluca> bdmurray: starting yesterday, jammy-amd64 jobs are failing to access salsa:
[09:42] <bluca> fatal: unable to access 'https://salsa.debian.org/systemd-team/systemd.git/': Received HTTP code 403 from proxy after CONNECT
[09:42] <bluca> weirdly, only amd64, other architectures are fine, and salsa seems fine to me as well
[09:43] <bluca> eg<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:43] <bluca> any clue?
[10:13] <bdmurray> bluca: We are moving to a new dc for amd64 and the log you should be ran there and failed
[10:15] <bdmurray> bluca: We'll get it sorted today.
[10:17] <bluca> ah got it, thank you
[15:49] <bdmurray> bluca: we believe the necessary proxy server changes have been made. please let me know if you see any further issues.
[15:50] <bluca> thank you for the update, will keep an eye on the next pushes
[16:56] <bluca> yup it's back working now, thanks
[18:19] <ahasenack_> utkarsh2102: I left a comment in the google-osconfig-agent bug. It's my first time reviewing it as an MRE
[19:05] <ahasenack_> coreycb: there is a magnum-ui in proposed already, from 2021 (!): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/magnum-ui/5.2.0-1ubuntu1
[19:05] <ahasenack_>  magnum-ui | 5.2.0-1                                   | focal/universe            | source
[19:05] <ahasenack_>  magnum-ui | 5.2.0-1ubuntu1                            | focal-proposed/universe   | source
[19:06] <ahasenack_> I guess bdmurray's script missed that one
[19:06] <ahasenack_> it's been in proposed for 631 days in "verification-needed" status
[19:07] <ahasenack_> coreycb: I assume it's ok to trump that one up?
[19:13] <ahasenack_> yes it can, I see the new upload dropped the patch even
[19:16] <coreycb> that's fine, thanks - I was hoping the requestor would verify it
[19:16] <coreycb> ahasenack_: ^
[19:17] <ahasenack_> I guess it can be closed by this mre upload
[19:17] <ahasenack_> manually even
[19:17] <coreycb> yes, I will do that
[20:06] <ahasenack_> htop
[20:06] <ahasenack_> oops


 :-P
[09:41] <daftykins> i often wonder!
[09:42] <zxm-pi> your os/2 underwear would be wasted on them :-P
[09:46] <daftykins> LGR's Windows 3.x socks want in on this outfit
[09:50] <zxm-pi> must be wearing a bit thin by now :-)
[09:54] <daftykins> i've discovered something neat, you know these IoT cameras that are open to the world and so on? some guys managed to reverse engineer them and load on some alternative firmware that lets you do fun stuff like LAN streaming via RTSP \o/
[09:55] <daftykins> i've decided to snag one for fun, so perhaps i will have it in time to livestream the cat's birthday on Sunday xD
[14:14] <Gargoyle> Hi all. I've got an intermittent DNS lookup failure on an AWS instance. So I've tried updating resolve config to make /etc/systemd/resolved.conf look like https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/KpVwmddsm9/ however, I'm still getting lookup failures. A long running service is talking to two or three hosts all day long and 90% of the time lookups are working, but "randomly" they'll fail.
[14:16] <Gargoyle> Assuming AWS, Google and Cloudflare are all not having a blip at the same time, any thoughts on how I can track this down further and/or mitigate it with more caching/retries ?
[14:19] <daftykins> space separation looks so wrong to me, is that really an accepted format o0
[14:21] <Gargoyle> Yup. (https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/resolved.conf.html)
[14:22] <daftykins> that param being Fallback suggests antics at a higher level, so do tools like nslookup and dig occasionally muck up from there too? never touched anything AWS
[14:23] <Gargoyle> not that I can tell. Even after catching one in the logs pretty quickly and immediately ssh'ing in and running dig, it resolves fine! :-(
[14:24] <Gargoyle> There's been some discussion on AWS groups of people seemingly having this same issue with some older instance types - supposedly resolved on newer ones.
[14:24] <Gargoyle> I might have to take the AWS DNS out of the loop. Will lose local internal name resolving, but it's just too unstable at the mo.
[14:34] <Gargoyle> Ahh. I wonder if the fallback doesn't cascade down to the interface level. I just tried changing the global and ended up with this: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/tkg7QWZYyy/


[05:34] <acherv> Morning @all
[05:35] <jrgns> morning all
[05:36] <acherv> jrgns: morning
[05:37] <nlsthzn> o/
[05:47] <magespawn> ***good morning***
[05:48] <nlsthzn> \o
[05:50] <magespawn> What? Kilos sleeping late this morning?
[05:54] <magespawn> hey nlsthzn
[05:57] <nlsthzn> how are you magespawn ?
[05:57] <magespawn> good and you?
[05:57] <nlsthzn> shouldn't complain :p
[05:59] <SmilyBorg> Morning folks
[05:59] <nlsthzn> o/
[05:59]  * nlsthzn is getting paid to die of boredom... guess there are worst (if not slower) ways to go...
[06:22] <superfly> ohi
[06:30] <Kilos> morning superfly SmilyBorg and others
[06:30] <superfly> Kilos: good morning, sleepy head
[06:30] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  how you feeling today?
[06:31] <Kilos> na na superfly been stretching home another 40g here from live cd
[06:31] <Kilos> seems to be good
[06:32] <Kilos> and my maverick seems to have got corrupted somehow
[06:32] <Kilos> can only boot to it if its second drive and i did update-grub
[06:32] <Kilos> the boot repair corrupts everything on my maverick
[06:34] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[06:34] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday
[06:34] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[06:53] <superfly> hi maiatoday
[06:54] <maiatoday> hi superfly
[07:05] <nlsthzn> Kilos: better thanks... had a good nights rest which is always good too
[07:05] <nlsthzn> hi all
[07:05] <Kilos> good
[07:06] <Kilos> naand inetpro
[07:13] <Vince-0> hiho
[07:13] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[07:13] <Kilos> hi hmmmmmer
[07:13] <Vince-0> off to work we go
[07:19] <zeref> hi Kilos
[07:26] <Kilos> hi Symmetria whats news with a host for us?
[07:26] <Kilos> you forgot
[07:27] <nlsthzn> So not much discussion about the loco gaming took place in the meeting I saw :p
[07:28] <Kilos> nope nlsthzn methinks the time diffs is too great
[07:28] <Kilos> but there was talk of doing it locally i think
[07:29] <Kilos> interesting concept if you stay in your timezone hey?
[07:29] <nlsthzn> if 5 pm on a Saturday was a problem for people to game I would have agreed....
[07:29] <nlsthzn> But to me it sounds like a good time
[07:29] <nlsthzn> then again anytime sounds good to me
[07:29] <Kilos> thats -8 to mexico
[07:29] <Kilos> they still sleeping
[07:31] <nlsthzn> that is 9 am and that is the time they chose
[07:32] <Kilos> oh they wanna play in their mornings
[07:32] <Kilos> hi henkj
[07:32] <henkj> hi Kilos
[07:33] <nlsthzn> it is always morning or evening someplace
[07:34] <Kilos> lol
[07:36] <hubx> hi
[07:36] <Kilos> hi hubx
[07:50] <Vince-0> I reckon we should test those games and latency before anything
[07:50] <Kilos> you volunteering Vince-0 ?
[07:51] <Kilos> Maaz, spell volunteer
[07:51] <Maaz> Kilos: Yup, that's a word all right
[07:51] <Vince-0> can do,
[07:51] <Kilos> ty Vince-0 let us know what you find
[07:51] <Vince-0> need to know what games and what servers
[07:51] <Kilos> nlsthzn, you got the info?
[07:52] <Kilos> i gotta scroll back faaaaar to find the links
[07:52] <inetpro> goeie dag Kilos
[07:53] <Vince-0> I saw some games mentioned but the actual link to the list didn't work - also no mention of servers
[07:53] <Kilos> hehe groetnes boetman
[07:53] <Vince-0> I guess a trace route / ping test to their IPs is a good indication
[07:54] <Vince-0> but in my experience anything over 100ms in a FPS game is unplayable - and EU is at least 220ms never mind South America
[07:54] <Kilos> Vince-0, you can get them on #ubuntu-mx
[07:54] <Kilos> ai
[07:54] <Vince-0> so no FPS'es
[07:55] <Kilos> where is nlsthzn now?
[07:55] <inetpro> so on the glug mailing list Rudi is talking about " D6 Communicator works on Adobe Air", has anybody got this working on *ubuntu?
[07:55] <Kilos> he knows about such stuff. im a greeter bot
[07:55]  * inetpro wonders
[07:56] <Kilos> inetpro, thats not on our list
[07:56] <Vince-0> okok
[07:56] <inetpro> Kilos: I know
[07:56] <Kilos> clever boy
[07:56] <inetpro> Kilos: but I'm asking here
[07:57] <Kilos> ok be patient. maybe someone will see your question
[07:57] <Kilos> hehe
[07:57] <inetpro> I know about several schools using D6 Communicator
[08:19]  * nlsthzn is at work wouldn't you know uncle Kilos
[08:19] <Kilos> lemme try find them nlsthzn sorry
[08:20] <nlsthzn> I have them... one sec
[08:21] <nlsthzn> http://viajemotu.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/ubuntu-loco-games-2013-1/
[08:21] <nlsthzn> this is the first post and the second one is...
[08:21] <nlsthzn> http://viajemotu.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/ubuntu-loco-games-2013-update/
[08:21] <nlsthzn> I did also send this one the mailing list with 0 responses >.<
[08:23] <nlsthzn> ugh... xp starting to struggle... must have more than 2 applications open :'(
[08:28] <magespawn> Morning again
[08:28] <magespawn> I don't think they have published the server address yet
[08:32] <magespawn> Kilos do you still have those file copy cammands?
[08:33] <Kilos> hehe which ones mage
[08:33] <Kilos> oh
[08:33] <Kilos> ssh ones
[08:35] <magespawn> those be the ones
[08:36] <Kilos> rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ ANN:/tmp/myarchives/
[08:37] <Kilos> sudo cp -r /tmp/myarchives/* /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:38] <magespawn> do the directories have to be crerated first, or do the commands do it for you?
[08:39] <Kilos> i was copying archives as you can see so need tmp
[08:39] <Kilos> did it on its own
[08:39] <Kilos> ANN is the server
[08:42] <Kilos> dunno where pro sucked that name from but anyway
[08:43] <Kilos> such a cheek calling my pcs BOB and ANN
[08:44] <magespawn> careful, you'll have him 'ai'ing all over the place
[08:46] <Kilos> rofl
[09:00] <nlsthzn> lunch time bbl
[09:12] <superfly> what's my codename for Ingress?
[09:12]  * superfly is so happy now
[09:25] <Squirm> lunch at 11? interesting
[09:35] <Kilos> he is 1 or 2 hours ahead of us Squirm
[09:35] <Kilos> UAE
[09:36] <Squirm> ok
[09:36] <Squirm> 1
[09:37] <Squirm> usually 1 hour
[09:37] <Squirm> I have stuff to do but I just don't feel like standing up
[09:37] <Squirm> it's one of those days
[09:39] <Kilos> you still in bed??
[09:39] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:41] <inetpro> hmm...
[09:44] <Kilos> whats a unity 2d shell
[09:45] <Kilos> shows in launcher but doesnt open or anything
[09:47] <superfly> Kilos: that's the 2D version of Unity, when you don't have Compiz (or whatever compisiting engine Unity makes use of these days)
[09:47] <Kilos> it only popped up now after all this time
[09:47] <Kilos> grrr
[09:47] <Kilos> ty superfly
[09:49] <Kilos> all the compiz stuff shows in synaptic as installed
[10:02] <Kilos> kde guys please give me the names of those apps that are like teamviewer in win
[10:06] <Kilos> was ssvnc one of them
[10:07] <superfly> Kilos: krdc is a frontend for RDP and VNC
[10:07] <Kilos> ty superfly
[10:16] <superfly> ohi not_found
[10:17] <superfly> not_found: just got my ingress invite
[10:17] <not_found> hiya superfly , awesome.... ingress it the best game I have installed and not played yet :/
[10:18] <superfly> got lots of portals around me here in Cape Town CBD
[10:18] <superfly> gonna have to figure out how to take over some enemy territory
[10:18] <Kilos> hehe
[10:18] <not_found> nice... I am yet again going to flash to stock rom on my s3, will install and check the game out properly then :)
[10:20]  * not_found doubts there is anybody else in backwaters UAE playing the game :/
[10:24] <not_found> which should mean total domination :D
[10:25] <not_found> I can't remember which side I chose when I was checking it out however "
[10:30] <superfly> not_found: I chose Resistance
[10:33] <not_found> I can't remember, I think I chose resistance and then exited the app... perhaps I can re-role (I hope :p)
[10:42] <superfly> dunno
[10:43] <not_found> lol
[10:43] <not_found> will check when I am off again
[10:56] <magespawn> not_found: you me in the same boat, i think maybe two ppl in hluhluwe might know about ingress
[10:56] <not_found> haha... sucks
[10:56] <magespawn> or TOTAL domination
[10:57] <Kilos> lol why they gotta be close
[10:57] <Kilos> isnt it a google thing
[10:57] <magespawn> think do not have an invite yet
[10:58] <not_found> it is still in beta... will open up later... most games like that these days
[11:02] <magespawn> ever thought about something like this happening for real? like the tv program V.
[11:03] <not_found> no not really
[11:04] <magespawn> sometimes i think too much
[11:05] <not_found> :)
[11:05] <Kilos> lol
[11:05] <magespawn> a lot of what happens if? scenarios
[11:34] <magespawn> gotta go get fish
[11:34] <Kilos> k
[11:52] <not_found> hmmm... network drive missing... guess it is time for XP to reboot.. catch you all later
[12:40] <jrgns> superfly: you're lucky. there's zero portals near where i live, and just a couple a couple of km's away from work
[12:41] <jrgns> i've started submitting a few, but it takes 3 to 6 weeks for them to be approved
[12:41] <charl__> good afternoon
[12:41] <charl__> Maaz: coffee on
[12:41]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[12:45] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl__!
[12:58] <superfly> jrgns: there are zero portals near where I live, so I'm gonna start submitting portals around where I live
[12:59] <jrgns> superfly: kewl
[13:35] <superfly> jrgns: you're from gauteng?
[13:35] <jrgns> superfly: yup
[13:36] <superfly> you again!
[13:36] <Kilos> uh oh
[13:36]  * Kilos leaves
[13:39] <superfly> Maaz: Kilos++ [ well played ]]
[13:39] <not_found> lol
[13:39] <Kilos> lol
[14:15] <Kilos> you home now not_found ?
[14:15] <not_found> not yet... still 45 min to go
[14:15] <Kilos> or are you lost when at work too
[14:17] <not_found> more than usual
[14:27] <Kilos> oh not_found that 5pm from the mex's is that sast time
[14:28] <Kilos> whenever that might be
[14:28] <not_found> it is utc+2
[14:28] <not_found> SA time
[14:28] <Kilos> no man
[14:28] <Kilos> ai now i dunno where i saw that
[14:29] <not_found> *sigh*
[14:30] <Kilos> lol
[14:30] <not_found>  9:00am CST, February 9 to 4:00pm CST, February 10
[14:30] <not_found> 9 am CST = 5 pm Joburg Standard Time
[14:30] <not_found> doesn't apply to the Cape
[14:31] <Kilos> oh i didnt see that
[14:31] <Kilos> sorry
[14:31] <Kilos> you are more ingelig
[14:31] <not_found> no, I just read with comprehension and let google do the rest
[14:31] <not_found> :p
[14:32] <Kilos> haha
[14:32] <not_found> I am going to be very annoyed if I am wrong :p
[14:32] <not_found> time to go... be on later
[14:32] <Kilos> ok
[15:13]  * inetpro wonders whether G+ communities have RSS feeds
[15:13] <Vince-0> not that I can find
[16:08] <Kilos> hi Mezenir
[16:15] <Mezenir> hey kilos
[16:15] <Mezenir> how goes ?
[16:16] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[16:16] <Mezenir> good thanks
[16:16] <Kilos> wb nlsthzn you are found again
[16:16] <Kilos> yay
[16:16] <Mezenir> just wishing this week would end
[16:17] <nlsthzn> :)
[16:17] <Kilos> dont wish youre life away
[16:17] <Kilos> because there is always another week coming
[16:29] <Kilos> oh my inetpro has probs
[16:39] <nlsthzn> crisis averted... thanks to odin ... phew... almost thought I had bricked my gs3
[16:40] <Kilos> ouch
[16:40] <Kilos> whats a gs3
[16:45] <nlsthzn> samsung galaxy s3
[16:45] <nlsthzn> phone
[16:45] <Kilos> oh ya
[16:46] <Kilos> i wonder what happened to the pro
[16:46] <Kilos> even work pc offline
[17:29] <Kilos> Maaz, tell magespawn tomorrow you gonna melt 38°c
[17:29] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[18:18] <Kilos> wow you peeps chat alot
[18:18] <magespawn>  /back
[18:18] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn tomorrow you gonna melt 38�c" 48 minutes and 25 seconds ago
[18:18] <magespawn> ty Kilos
[18:20] <Kilos> get the fan dishes of water and your bikini ready
[18:20] <Kilos> hehe
[18:20] <magespawn> me in a bikini, now theres a thought
[18:20] <magespawn> every one will run away screaming or go blind
[18:23] <Kilos> hehehe
[18:28] <Kilos> nlsthzn, you sposed to be sleeping
[18:31] <magespawn> gotta go do some work, see y'all tomorrow
[18:32] <Kilos> have a good night magespawn
[18:39] <nlsthzn> almost going to bed uncle Kilos ... switching over the night shift tomorrow night so staying up a tad later
[18:39] <Kilos> ah ok
[18:39] <Kilos> hehe
[18:44] <Kilos> Squirm, you here
[18:47] <Kilos> wb superfly
[18:48] <Kilos> you okes are too clever sneaking in so quietly
[18:49] <superfly> Kilos: so quiet I wasn't even here
[18:50] <Kilos> see the prob is completely gone
[18:50]  * superfly has submitted 3 portals, and knows of 1 unclaimed portal in the far south
[18:55] <superfly> got 3 other places here in Muizenberg to submit, just need to go take photos
[18:56] <Kilos> what are you doing superfly ?
[18:56] <Kilos> explain in mechanics language
[18:57] <superfly> Kilos: I'm playing a game called Ingress, where people from all around the world take part, and try to gain control of special virtual portals
[18:58] <Kilos> what is a virtual portal?
[18:58] <Kilos> and how they try to gain control of them
[18:59] <nlsthzn> carefully
[18:59]  * nlsthzn goes to bed...
[18:59] <Kilos> lol
[18:59] <nlsthzn> g night all
[18:59] <Kilos> night nlsthzn sleep tight
[18:59] <superfly> these portals are in real life locations, so you have to physically go to these locations in order to take control of these portals
[19:00] <Kilos> whew
[19:00] <magespawn> hey
[19:00] <Kilos> is there a right up about this game somewhere
[19:00] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[19:00] <Kilos> what happened
[19:01] <magespawn> Up at the hluhluwe hotel trying to fing the fault on their network
[19:01] <superfly> there's a game for these fancy phones which identifies these portals and you use it to "hack" the portals
[19:02] <superfly> Maaz: Ingress game
[19:02] <Maaz> superfly: Sorry...
[19:02] <magespawn> Who decides the portals?
[19:02] <superfly> Maaz: Google for Ingress game
[19:02] <Maaz> superfly: "Ingress (game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingress_(game) :: "Why Google's Ingress game is a data gold mine - tech - 29 ..." http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21628936.200-why-googles-ingress-game-is-a-data-gold-mine.html :: "Ingress - Android Apps on Google Play"
[19:02] <Maaz> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nianticproject.ingress :: "Ingress" http://www.ingress.com/ :: "The amazing marketing cam…
[19:02] <superfly> magespawn: you can submit portals
[19:03] <magespawn> So i could seriously rule hluhluwe then
[19:03] <superfly> magespawn: you could
[19:03] <Kilos> by prtal is it light a portal to another universe kinda thing? where peesp just appear outa the air
[19:04] <Kilos> peeps
[19:04] <superfly> Kilos: sort of
[19:04] <Kilos> ah
[19:06] <superfly> Kilos: "Ingress is an augmented reality massively multiplayer online video game created by NianticLabs@Google, released for Android devices."
[19:06] <superfly> "Players of the game belong to one of two factions, “Enlightened” (represented in green) and “Resistance” (blue). The game-play allows players to enclose regions of territory on the surface of the earth with virtual links between virtual portals, which are visible in the game software."
[19:06] <Kilos> sounds interesting
[19:07] <magespawn> They are being quite clever about this.
[19:07] <Kilos> but involved
[19:07] <superfly> "The makers of the game have populated the earth with a large number of “Portals”, visible to those using the game software. They are colored green, blue, or grey, depending on whether they are controlled by the Enlightened, the Resistance, or nobody. They are often associated with landmarks such as public sculptures, libraries, and notable buildings."
[19:07] <superfly> "Each portal may be equipped with up to eight Resonators and four Mods. An unclaimed portal has no resonators. To claim a portal for a faction, a player deploys a resonator on it."
[19:08] <Kilos> oh so your fone actually knows where they are
[19:08] <Kilos> whew
[19:08] <superfly> yes
[19:08] <Kilos> whew
[19:08] <superfly> and you use your phone to "hack" portals and to place resonators in the portals
[19:08] <Kilos> the things are getting too clever
[19:09] <magespawn> Gps is an amazing thing
[19:10] <Kilos> yeah i mapped out a farm outside rustenburg with a garmin years ago
[19:10] <superfly> Kilos: nowadays you can map a farm out with your phone :-)
[19:10] <Kilos> but hte modern ones even talk to you
[19:10] <superfly> yep, I have turn by turn voice navigation on my phone
[19:11] <Kilos> that old garmin was only accurate to within 5 metres
[19:11] <Kilos> haha "jy's verby, draai om"
[19:12] <Kilos> magespawn, whats the prob there
[19:12] <Kilos> same as last time
[19:13] <Kilos> you havent sorted the cables yet
[19:13] <magespawn> Yup there is fault on the hardware section of the network somewhere
[19:14] <magespawn> Busy going though every single port on two 24 port switches
[19:14] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:14] <Kilos> late night in the big city
[19:14] <Kilos> hehe
[19:14] <magespawn> Lol
[19:16] <magespawn> I have put in three switchs to completly bypass the section of the network where the problem is so they are up and running
[19:16] <Kilos> what part isnt running
[19:16] <Kilos> is every room wored?
[19:16] <Kilos> wired
[19:17] <magespawn> Everything is running at the moment
[19:18] <magespawn> but the problem is between the servers and the switch room that connects the rest of the network
[19:18] <magespawn> Just eliminated the switchs as a problem.
[19:21] <superfly> *switches
[19:21] <superfly> magespawn: a faulty cable?
[19:21] <Kilos> lol
[19:22] <Kilos> rats been chewing on it
[19:29] <Squirm> Kilos: I am now
[19:29] <superfly> Kilos: your feet stink so much it scared my IRC client away!
[19:29] <superfly> gaan was!  Eat drums!" - "No Animal, *beat* drums." - "Beat drums! Beat drums!")
[19:32] <Kilos> hehe superfly
[19:32] <Kilos> they stole your portal
[19:33] <Squirm> Kilos: I use Mint MATE
[19:33] <Kilos> magespawn, you here how the fly is treating me
[19:34] <Kilos> oh my . ok ty Squirm
[19:34] <Squirm> Kilos: it has a Gnome 2 feel
[19:34] <Squirm> afaik it's a fork of Gnome 2
[19:34] <Kilos> i used mate on unity
[19:34] <Kilos> yes it is
[19:35] <Kilos> i was wondering if the right click format function workks on gnome-shell or gnome3
[19:35] <Kilos> for usb devices that is
[19:36] <Kilos> i think unity has dropped an important function
[19:36] <Kilos> user friendly function that is
[19:41] <magespawn> superfly yes almost certainly just need to find which one in 40 odd or so here
[19:41] <magespawn> with only 10 labled
[19:43] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:43] <Kilos> good luck magespawn see yous morrow
[21:06] <magespawn> Good night all
[21:51] <inetpro> eish!