[18:38] <rahduke> hey whats up with the new kernel (2.6.31-20) my buddy updated his install and ended up having all sorts of problems, is this thing stable?
[18:38] <york105> Copperred try > ALT f2 > gksudo nautilus
[18:38] <Trek> rahduke: have him use the slightly-older kernel then
[18:38] <Stargaze> rahduke, i use it without problems
[18:39] <Trek> rahduke: perhaps its the computer its loading on
[18:39] <Copperred> york can i private messag with u?
[18:39] <rahduke> I don't care about him, I'm worried about upgrading tho
[18:39] <york105> rahduke, I use it without problems
[18:39] <york105> safe to upgrade
[18:39] <york105> its supposed to be production release
[18:39] <rahduke> york105: what kind of setup do you have?
[18:40] <KingMuty> dudes how do I fix my network connection on jaunty?
[18:40] <Trek> KingMuty, we need details
[18:40] <Trek> !details | KingMuty
[18:40] <york105> rahduke, I've got Ubuntu 9.10 on x.20 both deskop and a server
[18:40] <dbook82> slart: you back yet?
[18:40] <Stargaze> KingMuty, a bit more specific please
[18:41] <Daisho> york105: yes. gnome starts, all my desktop shortcuts are there, I can change workspaces and I can access the terminal through hotkeys and run programs from there
[18:41] <rahduke> i hope this doesn't break my install
[18:41] <Daisho> york105: but the toolbars are gray and nonresponsive
[18:41] <york105> Daisho, its a long shot but might just work, have you tried reinstalling Gnome?
[18:41] <mrSean> hello im kind of new to linux
[18:42] <Trek> rahduke: if you're concerned, then keep one of the older kernels around, I have 2 kernels on mine: most recent Jaunty one and the one before it
[18:42] <mrSean> and i have trouble installing
[18:42] <mrSean> ubuntu 9.10
[18:42] <rahduke> Trek: I am, also updating some nvidia modaliases, that has screwed me in the past
[18:42] <york105> mrSean, some more details please
[18:42] <KingMuty> Ubuntu 9.04 = Jaunty Jackalope. My ethernet network connection is not running! I can not browser nor ping google,com
[18:43] <Trek> rahduke: do you HAVE to update?
[18:43] <faron> okay,let ma ask this...what I would like to do is to remove libflashplayer.so from /home/bobby/.mozilla/plugins/.Can anybody tell me how to navigate to that folder & remove that from there with the terminal because about :  plugins says that I have shockwave flash & futuresplash player installed & I want to try something else ?
[18:43] <krlsmgl> hi people!! someone can help me??a
[18:43] <Trek> KingMuty: is your ethernet card working?
[18:43] <Trek> !ask | krlsmgl
[18:43] <york105> KingMuty, try this > sudo ifconfig which should list your network cards, to renew dhcp leased ips > sudo dhclient
[18:43] <rahduke> Trek: never have to update, but I do anyway
[18:43] <level09> how do I extract all .gz archives in a directory?
[18:43] <mrSean> its fully installed but when i boot it says @error: no such device: 5fblah blah
[18:43] <level09> tar -vxzf *.gz doesn't seem to work
[18:43] <krlsmgl> I have problems with my new install
[18:44] <KingMuty> Of course the ethernet is working. It is a laptop with builtin ethernet
[18:44] <Daisho> york105: when I try "sudo apt-get install gnome" I get E: broken package
[18:44] <york105> level09 try the untar command
[18:44] <Trek> !details | krlsmgl
[18:44] <york105> mrSean are you running a virtual machine?
[18:44] <Stargaze> !ask| krlsmgl
[18:44] <mrSean> no
[18:44] <krlsmgl> the sound don't work
[18:44] <Trek> Stargaze: I already gave him that one :P
[18:44] <Daisho> york105: it also says some dependencies are unfulfilled, but I can't install those packages either
[18:44] <Stargaze> Trek, two is better than one :)
[18:45] <york105> mrSeanL well this simply means that the network interface was present during install but is absent now
[18:45] <KingMuty> it must be a genius that put the terminal in the accessories menu
[18:45] <Trek> Stargate: true
[18:45] <mrSean> it has a ethernet card and wlan card and both werent touched
[18:45] <krlsmgl> i installed the last ubuntu into my new laptop and can find the way to hear whatever
[18:46] <Stargaze> !it| krlsmgl
[18:46] <york105> Daisho, first thing to do is resolve dependencies, fire up synaptec> go to EDIT > Fix broken packages
[18:46] <ZykoticK9> level09, if i remember correctly tar won't accept * for input - you could use a for-loop if you have a lot of files, but try using your command on just one file and see if that works
[18:46] <level09> it works on a single file
[18:47] <level09> not sure how to do for loops :P
[18:47] <york105> broken depen... means you have apps on your system which rely on files that are either missing or corrupt
[18:47] <mrSean> york105: i didnt touch and hardware during or after the installation?
[18:47] <york105> mrSean, sure, can you post the output of ifconfig run as root
[18:47] <ZykoticK9> level09, so "for file in *.gz ; do tar zxvf $file ; done" should work
[18:47] <lanzelloth> do you guys use any command-line utility that emulates the gui delete (gnome) that sends things to the "trash"
[18:47] <leoxagy13> york105: i did the sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get upgrade thing
[18:47] <Trek> mrSean: post the output of ifconfig to pastebin
[18:47] <Trek> !pastebin | mrSean
[18:47] <york105> lanzelloth, good question, not that I know of any
[18:48] <mrSean> im very new to this what is the command i should put in?
[18:48] <tps_> hello... how can i change my login theme in karmic?
[18:48] <level09> ZykoticK9: nice ! let me try that
[18:48] <KingMuty> dude
[18:48] <coz_> tps_,   its not difficult  hold on
[18:48] <level09> ZykoticK9: do i Need a $ for the fist file variable ?
[18:48] <KingMuty> I did dhcleint
[18:48] <lanzelloth> york105, I'm not even sure where the trash is
[18:48] <Slart> dbook82: ok.. dinners done... much happier now
[18:48] <krlsmgl> in this case, someone speak Spanish??
[18:48] <ZykoticK9> level09, no
[18:48] <york105> leoxagy13, you should now have uninstalled flash :)
[18:48] <Trek> !es | krlsmgl
[18:48] <KingMuty> no ping google.com
[18:48] <coz_> tps_,   ok open a terminal  and paste t his command        gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[18:48] <level09> Thanks !
[18:48] <york105> trash is :trash
[18:49] <dbook82> slart: that good, had a snack myself
[18:49] <leoxagy13> york105: i dont need to unistall flash!
[18:49] <lanzelloth> york105, which is where?
[18:49] <coz_> tps_,  that will open what appears to be the appearance dialog...which it is for root...choose a them as if you are going to change the system theme ..
[18:49] <coz_> tps_,  however it will ONLY change the gdm theme  but
[18:49] <Resonate> Can someone help me with stack overflows and SIGSEGV signals?
[18:49] <defconxxx>  one
[18:49] <Slart> dbook82: so.. where were we.. you get several devices.. that's a good thing.. but you can't access the files from any cd/dvd you insert.. but you used the same dvd to install ubuntu, right?
[18:49] <coz_> tps_,  you will also notice that 2  accessiblity icons now show up in the systray
[18:49] <york105> too many people
[18:50] <KingMuty> defconxxx <- :)
[18:50] <Stargaze> leoxagy13, is it flash question or a dot matrix question, or how are they related?
[18:50] <Trek> Resonate: in what context?
[18:50] <york105> overload
[18:50] <level09> ZykoticK9: magic ! thanks it worked
[18:50] <KingMuty> so dudes
[18:50] <tps_> coz_: what about the login?
[18:50] <leoxagy13> i'm looking to make an EPSON tm-u220pd dot matrix printer to work, it's having problems printting with spaces between lines
[18:50] <KingMuty> I am still not connected
[18:50] <ZykoticK9> level09, :)
[18:50] <mrSean> will some one please help me, in a private chat if possible as its easier
[18:50] <leoxagy13> Stargaze: PRINTER
[18:50] <defconxxx> high every one
[18:50] <coz_> tps_,  you can delete one of them by openin system/preferences/keyboard
[18:50] <krlsmgl> thanks, gracias, aguije, brigado, danke
[18:50] <york105> okay for someone who wanted to go to trash, the path is trash://
[18:50] <coz_> tps_,  that will ONLY change the login screen not the system theme you are using now  but you MUST reboot  for that to take effect
[18:50] <KingMuty> hey why dont we ban all the haxors like defcong
[18:50] <Resonate> Trek: Trying to get a buffer overflow working with Shellcode, but it sends a SIGSEGV signal (SEGFAULT) every time I run a C program with any shellcode.
[18:50] <Stargaze> leoxagy13, and where does flash come in then?
[18:50] <dbook82> slart: correct, also i went into nautilus under sudo, and there is a cdrom0 in the left panel thingy but i get a mount error, check the screenshot on the thread i posted if you would like
[18:50] <leoxagy13> NOTHING!
[18:51] <sate> Hello guys, I have dropbox, and I have dropbox on another computer, and I'm trying to sync up and for some reason, when I add files from the other computer, my ubuntu computer isn't getting the files
[18:51] <mark__> hi dan
[18:51] <dan____> hi mark
[18:51] <tps_> coz_: thanks
[18:51] <Trek> Resonate: ah, can't really help there, I don't work with C unfortunately
[18:51] <coz_> tps_,  no problem  come back because we will have to remove the accessibility icon from systray
[18:52] <Resonate> Trek: Know anything about stack protection in Ubuntu perchance then?
[18:52] <sate> Hello guys, I have dropbox, and I have dropbox on another computer, and I'm trying to sync up and for some reason, when I add files from the other computer, my ubuntu computer isn't getting the files
[18:52] <Slart> dbook82: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?
[18:52] <CalmvsKhaos> sate, I don't know about dropbox much, but i *Do* know CrashPlan works in Ubuntu, CrashPlan is like Carbonite.
[18:52] <Slart> dbook82: there should be a line about the cdrom in there
[18:52] <faron> york105 maybe you can help me with my flash issue too...?? Please ? about : plugins say that I have shockwave flash & futuersplash player installed.I need to know how to remove that with the terminal FROM /home/bobby/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so can you help ?
[18:52] <dbook82> how do i do that?
[18:52] <Stargaze> sate, can you not update manually?
[18:52] <coz_> sate,   this really isnt an ubuntu issue    but are you using the same account on both systems?
[18:53] <Trek> Resonate: sorry, can't help you there.
[18:53] <KingMuty> guys my network aint working!
[18:53] <coz_> sate,  you may want to go to the dropbox forum to get a resolution for this
[18:53] <Resonate> Trek: No problem, thanks anyway
[18:53] <Trek> KingMuty, calm down, we KNOW your network isn't working, you've said it MULTIPLE TIMES.
[18:53] <Stargaze> KingMuty, type /join #ubuntu-server
[18:53] <Trek> KingMuty, unfortunately, you have to wait, like everyone else, for an answer
[18:53] <pierz> Hi
[18:53] <sate> Yeah, Kinda annoying because on windows xp, any files I updated, automatically updated to my windows xp dropbox
[18:54] <pierz> Could anybody spare a moment of their time to help a poor newbie?
[18:54] <Trek> Stargaze: his issue isn't a server issue, he can't get his ethernet working, from what I can tell
[18:54] <mike48478> hello guys, maybe someone could help me (in private) to format one of my hdds?! Can't do it with disk utility program,shows an error...
[18:54] <dbook82> slart: how do i get that to appear on the terminal?
[18:54] <coz_> KingMuty,  if no one can help here you may also want to log onto the ##linux channel
[18:54] <koke_> Latnock, te veo
[18:54] <Trek> !ask | pierz
[18:54] <Slart> dbook82: cat /etc/fstab    will print it out
[18:54] <krlsmgl> once again, I've a laptop hp dv7 3650 and the sound system don't work
[18:54] <Slart> dbook82: gedit /etc/fstab    works too
[18:54] <eremite> sate, have you tried Ubuntu One?  Its simialr to DropBox and you should be able to transfer your files from one folder to the other.
[18:54] <bazita> hi everyone i'am new to this
[18:55] <coz_> krlsmgl,  did you open a terminal and type   alsamixer?  check the sliders are up and nothing is muted
[18:55] <Slart> !pastebin | dbook82
[18:55] <dbook82> slart: ok i see the cdrom at the bottom of it, whats the url for pastebin?
[18:55] <krlsmgl> yes I fixed that and nothing happeng
[18:55] <coz_> dbook82,   pastebin.com
[18:55] <sate> Well this dropbox, also syncs with co workers computer as well eremite
[18:55] <pierz> All right basically I'm unable to actually boot into my ubuntu 9.10 drive, I select it from my boot menu, the white ubuntu icon appears as usual, but then it hangs on a black screen. I did a couple of updates this morning, so I'm not sure if those affected it. Could anybody help?
[18:55] <CalmvsKhaos> eremite, Ubuntu One has always (and still does) crap out on me daily, it is not reliable at all if you ask me
[18:56] <ipatrol> I have a computer guy here trying to fix my wireless problem, any suggestions?
[18:56] <lanzelloth> york105, found that there's a program trash (install package trash-cli) for dealing with the trash from terminal
[18:56] <dbook82> slart: there ya go http://paste.ubuntu.com/396867/
[18:56] <Trek> ipatrol: if you've got a tech there, why ask us?  (sorry about attitude, i don't mean anything by it)
[18:56] <york105> thanks for the info lanzelloth ;-)
[18:56] <ipatrol> Trek: Hes not a linux guy
[18:56] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. identical to what's on my own system
[18:56] <eremite> CalmvsKhaos, I have limited expeirnce with it.  I've got maybe 20 docts stored on it, nothing important.  Worrks for me, except for the first time I used it.  I needed to delet a .conf file to make it work for me.
[18:57] <ipatrol> He's suggesting Windows
[18:57] <LLStarks> hi. is it normal for oxygen-icon-theme to take 10 minutes to unpack?
[18:57] <Trek> ipatrol: explain your wireless issues to me here, and tell the Windows guy to stop recommending windows because you want to use *nix
[18:57] <theadmin> What are the differences between Ubuntu's OpenOffice and regular OpenOffice from openoffice.org?
[18:57] <coz_> LLStarks,  well it takes a bit of time yes  not 10 minutes litterally
[18:57] <ipatrol> Trek: My wife decides, and she doesnt care either way
[18:57] <dbook82> slart: whats the prognosis doc? will she make it?
[18:57] <eremite> theadmin, nothing as far as I know.
[18:58] <ipatrol> I need to salvage it or shell by 7
[18:58] <leoxagy13> Anyone knows how to install (and get it to work properly ..) an EPSON TM-U220PD printer MODEL M188D on Ubuntu 8.04???, I installed it in Administration > Printers > Selecting EPSON and 9-pin models, it prints but with spaces between the intented document ... for example the test page pritns the lines of the border as DASHED ..... i've tried other options in the driver selection but just cause the printer to go crazy having my to reboot the sistem
[18:58] <Trek> ipatrol: regardless, details about your wireless issues, please
[18:58] <eremite> theadmin, maybe Ubuntu's is optimized for use with the Ubuntu system.
[18:58] <krlsmgl> coz, I checked again
[18:58] <pierz> !ask
[18:58] <theadmin> eremite: Well except the About box? And the loading screen (it is orange instead of blue)
[18:58] <cephess> I'm a noob to ubuntu . I need to figure how to upgrade vsftpd 2.2.2 -- aptget only has 2.2 -- any help would be great
[18:58] <mike48478> hello guys, maybe someone could help me (in private) to format one of my hdds?! Can't do it with disk utility program,shows an error...
[18:58] <Stargaze> leoxagy13, is CUPS installed?
[18:58] <coz_> krlsmgl,  for your sound card?
[18:58] <Slart> dbook82: I have no idea.. it might something really simple that a single command in a terminal will solve.. or it might be a kernel issue and then you won't get it fixed until there's a new kernel...
[18:58] <theadmin> mike48478: just sudo mkfs.FSTYPE /dev/sda1 (or whatever the disk is)
[18:59] <Slart> dbook82: you said you didn't have a /media folder?
[18:59] <coz_> krlsmgl,  you may want to go to the #alsa   or #pulseaudio  channels
[18:59] <blue-frog> mike48478, what error?
[18:59] <ipatrol> Trek: Iwconfig shows the adapter as working, mabye the drivers are imperfect?
[18:59] <pierz> Hi, I'm unable to actually boot into my ubuntu 9.10 drive, I select it from my boot menu, the white ubuntu icon appears as usual, but then it hangs on a black screen. I did a couple of updates this morning, so I'm not sure if those affected it. Could anybody help?
[18:59] <dbook82> slart: not sure where its at
[18:59] <theadmin> mike48478: Something like "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1"
[18:59] <eremite> theadmin, the only difference I can think of is that the one from the ubuntu repos is easily updated, manually installed versions are not.
[18:59] <Trek> ipatrol: not enough details, more please, like what's the exact issues you have now?
[18:59] <Slart> dbook82: if you open nautilus and write /media/  in the address bar
[18:59] <krlsmgl> yea, and so?
[19:00] <theadmin> eremite: Well, i guess. Icons are also different (from Windows version, at least)
[19:00] <ipatrol> Trek: The GUI shows the network, but a WEP connection fails
[19:00] <ipatrol> With key
[19:00] <dbook82> slart: ok i'm there, there's a cdrom folder with a curving up arrow, and a cdrom0 folder
[19:00] <krlsmgl> what I gonna put?
[19:00] <Trek> ipatrol: wicd or network manager?
[19:00] <ipatrol> Trek: Network manager
[19:00] <Slart> dbook82: yes, the curved arrow thing just means that it's a symlink (a shortcut).. the cdrom0 folder is the "real" one
[19:00] <ipatrol> 9.10
[19:00] <Slart> dbook82: is there anything in the cdrom0 folder?
[19:01] <dbook82> slart: no there isn't
[19:01] <Trek> ipatrol: interesting, haven't had that happen before, you tried rebooting the router to see if its a router-side issue?
[19:01] <eremite> theadmin, minor visual differences like icons are hardly in the way of productivity.  If you were to change your Windows system-wide icon theme, your OO icons would look different than they do now.  Just like Ubuntu.
[19:01] <Slart> dbook82: and you've got a data cd in the drive now?
[19:01] <Trek> ipatrol: reboot as in unplug the router/modem for a minute, plug it back in
[19:01] <ipatrol> Trek: Ive tried for months
[19:01] <ipatrol> Rebooting often
[19:01] <Trek> ipatrol: what wifi card?
[19:01] <theadmin> eremite: Meh, Windows version of OOo uses old GTK icons, so theme does not affect those
[19:01] <blue-frog> ipatrol, what does /var/log/syslog says about your wifi connection attempts?
[19:01] <dbook82> slart: no there isn't anything in there and i can't get hte drive to open
[19:02] <Trek> ipatrol, I have to go right now, but perhaps blue-frog can help you out
[19:02] <Slart> dbook82: oh.. tried typing "eject" in a terminal?
[19:02] <ipatrol> Trek: WUSB600N
[19:02] <leoxagy13> Stargaze: I think
[19:02] <coz_> dbdii407,  the terminal command should be  eject -T
[19:02] <dbook82> slart: just did, nothing
[19:02] <Trek> blue-frog: his wifi card is: <ipatrol> WUSB600N
[19:02] <eremite> theadmin, I wouldnt know, I dont use windows for openoffice.
[19:02] <coz_> dbdii407,  that should open it and eject -t  should close it
[19:03] <Copperred> is there anyoen her i can private message with abotu doing the simpliest thing...i need to replace a config file with one i have on my desktop...and it keeps denying me permission.....
[19:03] <leoxagy13> Stargaze: ps -e | grep -i cups ; shows me a cupsd process so i'll bet that's the CUPS deamon ...
[19:03] <ipatrol> blue-frog: The guy says the drivers arent working
[19:03] <Daisho> york105: nope, it doesn't make any difference. synaptic says that all dependencies were resolved but I still can't reinstall gnome
[19:03] <cephess> second has anyone had issues with getting passive mode to work with vsftpd. I open the firewall passvie ports
[19:03] <darolu> Copperred, did you try with "sudo"?
[19:03] <Slart> dbook82: try "eject -r"
[19:03] <bombel> Does anyone know of an 8-bit music composer for ubuntu?
[19:03] <eremite> Copperred, use gksudo to access the folder via terminal, and then do yoru changes.
[19:03] <coz_> Copperred,  you can PM me
[19:03] <Copperred> im a real noob guys....so a
[19:03] <Copperred> thanks coz
[19:04] <dbook82> unable to eject, last error: input/output error
[19:04] <eremite> bombel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762621
[19:04] <Slart> dbook82: oh.. that's something new.. sure there isn't a cd in there?
[19:04] <ipatrol> blue-frog: Hello??
[19:04] <kop> "evince trap divide error" with little else worth while for an error msg ?! and of course I can't read pdf atm ...
[19:04] <dbook82> slart: yes i'm sure, i had a cd in there ejected and was going to put the live dvd in but it won't open
[19:05] <schiellerup> how do i reinstall Ubuntu, and gets Windows Vista back on my PC?
[19:05] <eremite> dbook82, have you tried typing eject into the terminal?
[19:05] <dbook82> eremite: yes
[19:05] <bombel> eremite, thanks !
[19:05] <eremite> dbook82, have you tried to use unmount to unmount the drive?
[19:06] <kop> schiellerup, is it just a boot loader issue ?
[19:06] <dbook82> eremite: no i haven't
[19:06] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. in my experience, once you start getting input/output errors things get better.. why not try a reboot.. see if that clears things up
[19:06] <schiellerup> i am not sure, i would try Ubuntu out, to check it out, but i more want Vista again
[19:06] <dbook82> slart: ok i shall return shortly
[19:06] <Slart> dbook82: sorry... "things don't get better"
[19:07] <schiellerup> but i can't reinstall Vista, because it says there is no more place on the harddisc...
[19:07] <kop> schiellerup, did you hose vista with an ubuntu load ?
[19:07] <schiellerup> i downloadet the Ubuntu.iso, and burned it over on a disc
[19:07] <lanzelloth> how come I'm not in /etc/sudoers ?
[19:07] <lanzelloth> wait nvm
[19:08] <Pici> lanzelloth: Because the group 'admin' is, and you're in that group
[19:08] <lanzelloth> Pici, I just realized that
[19:08] <eremite> dbook82,  unmount /media/cdrom or cdrom0
[19:08] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: Hello?
[19:08] <blue-frog_> yes
[19:08] <Stargaze> schiellerup, check http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/vtc_ubuntu_training.html
[19:09] <MikeChelen> how can you tell if VLC and Mplayer are successfully using hardware video acceleration?
[19:09] <darolu> schiellerup, how did you install Ubuntu? did you use the entire disk?
[19:09] <kop> schiellerup,  if you attempted an ubuntu install and formated the remainder of the disc ext3 or 4 then M$ can't see it for all intents that part of the disc no longer exists as far as M$ is concerned
[19:09] <eremite> MikeChelen, what could you need hardware acceleration in VLC for?
[19:10] <kop> schiellerup,  you can run gparted to see if the ntfs partition still exists
[19:10] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: Can you help me with my Linksys WUSB600N problem
[19:10] <blue-frog_> ipatrol tail -100 /var/log/syslog  and paste the result on pastebin.com
[19:10] <Resonate> Does anyone here have experience in shellcoding on Ubuntu?
[19:10] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: impossible
[19:10] <Slart> !anyone | Resonate
[19:10] <mlv> Who is on?
[19:10] <mlv> I haven't used IRC for 15 years. How can I see who is on?
[19:10] <ipatrol> It has no internet
[19:10] <schiellerup> what is gparted, and how do i do?
[19:10] <blue-frog_> ipatrol, no ethernet?
[19:11] <dbook82> slart: i'm back
[19:11] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: It once did, but not hete
[19:11] <Slart> dbook82: ok.. got a data cd in the drive now?
[19:11] <madjoe> Will .deb package for icons work for Lucid work on Karmic? http://download.tuxfamily.org/gericom/ppa/lucid/
[19:11] <ipatrol> Im on an itouch
[19:11] <MikeChelen> eremite: playing high-def videos without maxing the cpu
[19:11] <kop> schiellerup,  are you using ubuntu now ?
[19:11] <operaatoors> schiellerup, its like partition magic on windows. you can edit your partitions
[19:11] <madjoe> Will .deb package for icons for Lucid work on Karmic? http://download.tuxfamily.org/gericom/ppa/lucid/
[19:11] <Pici> madjoe: It should work fine.
[19:11] <dbook82> slart: ok put the ubuntu install dvd in
[19:11] <madjoe> arrrgh... I'm dyslecsic, sorry
[19:11] <wolter> hi, does anybody know how can I get a /dev/name for a specific partition?
[19:11] <MikeChelen> mlv: what irc client? in xchat the channel members appear on the right side
[19:11] <wolter> my gparted is not working
[19:12] <blue-frog_> ipatrol, http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Adapters&thread.id=26579
[19:12] <lanzelloth> what's the default root password?
[19:12] <Pici> wolter: mount
[19:12] <Slart> lanzelloth: there is none
[19:12] <Pici> !root | lanzelloth
[19:12] <MikeChelen> !uuid | wolter
[19:12] <Myrtti> lanzelloth: there is no default root password.
[19:12] <knoxy> Hi.. Im trying to install ubuntu and in 29% of installation, the installation stop... I change the HD, memory... How can I do to fix it?
[19:12] <darolu> mlv, /who works for me
[19:12] <lanzelloth> all: ok thx
[19:12] <Slart> dbook82: ok.. do you see anything in /media/cdrom0 now?
[19:12] <wolter> thanks gus
[19:12] <madjoe> Pici: So, I can just update/edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list with the new path (since there is no path for Karmic anymore)?
[19:12] <dany2> hi all
[19:12] <MikeChelen> knoxy: try alternate install cd? also run mem test to be sure
[19:13] <dany2> is there a way to change the console keymap of grub?
[19:13] <dbook82> slart: wait one
[19:13] <knoxy> MikeChelen: Yes.. 2 cd's
[19:13] <kop> oh well :-/
[19:13] <rdb> How can I configure NetworkManager to automatically connect to a network? (Note: I'm not using nm-applet or any desktop environment)
[19:13] <knoxy> and 2 drives of cd's
[19:13] <dany2> I'm on sh:grub>
[19:13] <kop> "evince trap divide error" with little else worth while for an error msg ?! and of course I can't read pdf atm ...
[19:13] <dany2> I'm in the crap..
[19:13] <dany2> I have installed windows after linux
[19:13] <dany2> and now it's a mess shit
[19:14] <MikeChelen> !dualboot | dany2
[19:14] <Pici> madjoe: I'd be careful with packages that provide programs, but for art stuff you should be fine.
[19:14] <dbook82> slart: hmm home folder isn't wanting to open
[19:14] <dany2> there is no written about changing keymap
[19:14] <dany2> i have saw those links yet
[19:14] <Resonate> Shellcoding in C on Ubuntu appears to always result in a SEG fault, (SIGSEGV). I've disabled stack randomisation (randomize_va_space = 0), and ulimit -c is set to unlimited. I'm compiling with no stack protection, but even with it on, it always seg faults. Am I missing a stack protection, or does shellcoding not work on Ubuntu by default?
[19:15] <darolu> dany2, you can't change it at grub>
[19:15] <kop> schiellerup,  PM
[19:15] <madjoe> Pici: it's for icons only... what would the line in sources.list look like?
[19:15] <madjoe> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/gericom/ppa/lucid ./ #gericom@hummer
[19:15] <dbook82> slart: i'm going to reboot again
[19:15] <dany2> darolu: are you sure? I'm in the shit.. there si no way to write: =
[19:15] <madjoe> Pici: I'm not sure about the ./ part
[19:15] <Slart> dbook82: ok
[19:16] <darolu> dany2, no, you can't within grub, quit and change it on your cli or gui
[19:16] <dbook82> slart: as i was, ubuntu was being ridiculously slow
[19:16] <kop> the impatience of youth ...
[19:16] <bubbi> I am trying to run a program in the terminal and keep getting a "Killed" message back. I'm relatively new to Linux in general, so please bear with me :-)
[19:16] <kop> schiellerup,  PM
[19:17] <bubbi> I was therefore wondering if I am doing something wrong.
[19:17] <dbook82> slart: cdrom0 folder is still empty
[19:17] <nullie> bubbi, are you short on ram?
[19:17] <dany2> darolu : I can't, I have not access neither windows neither linux.. I have installed win after linux.. it's a mess
[19:17] <Slart> Resonate: isn't "shellcoding" just exploiting a weakness to get a shell? ie it can be all kinds of things.. hard to tell what might be causing the segfault
[19:17] <KB1JWQ> Can Ubuntu read HFS+ (MacOS filesystem) out of the box?
[19:18] <bubbi> nullie, I don't think so.. just a sec
[19:18] <darolu> dany2, are you using a LiveCD?
[19:18] <dany2> darolu : to reinstall grub yes
[19:18] <obscurant1st> is there any themes for ubuntu gnome, like quartz in kde?
[19:18] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. I'm googling about this.. haven't really found anything useful yet
[19:18] <dany2> darolu : now I have grub installed but there is only the console
[19:18] <Pici> madjoe: That should work, its weird that they call that a PPA though, since PPAs are a feature of Launchpad.
[19:18] <root__> hi
[19:19] <obscurant1st> also how can i check is there any error in my fstab?
[19:19] <nullie> bubbi, if ram is limited and your program uses lots of it, it's probably OOM killer, check the logs, but I don't know which one. Probably /var/log/messages
[19:19] <llutz> KB1JWQ: CONFIG_HFSPLUS_FS=m       (jaunty) it should
[19:19] <MrMist> Hi guys
[19:19] <genii> KB1JWQ: Needs package hfsplus, maybe hsfutils als  and then the module needs to be loaded
[19:19] <bubbi> nullie, I have 512 MB ram. It should be more than enough for the program (a Call of duty 4 server)
[19:19] <madjoe> Pici: lol yeah, it also confused me..
[19:19] <darolu> dany2, change your keymap in the LiveCD GUI, is easier
[19:19] <madjoe> Pici: thanks!
[19:19] <MrMist> Need a tip... I'm having problems getting cwiid to work with ubuntu
[19:19] <Resonate> Slart: It's just machine code, so it can really be used for anything, although in a lot of contexts, it is machine code designed to open a root shell through an exploit. In my case, I can't get any machinecode to run in Ubuntu, even though a lot of sites assure me it should work.
[19:19] <dbook82> slart: ok i'm still here
[19:19] <nullie> bubbi, 512 is rather limited, check the logs for oom
[19:19] <nullie> bubbi, and top for free ram
[19:19] <KB1JWQ> Thanks llutz genii.
[19:20] <MrMist> I have cwiid working, but when I try to map the "A"-button as anything other than "btn_left" X i suddenly restarted... any ideas?
[19:20] <darolu> dany2, to fix your grub follow this instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[19:20] <obscurant1st> how can i check is there any error in my fstab?
[19:20] <obscurant1st> something shows about fstab at every reboot, but before i get to read it, it goes
[19:21] <sylar_> join
[19:21] <sylar_> heu
[19:21] <sylar_> hey
[19:21] <darolu> obscurant1st, the most direct way to check your fstab for errors is reading the file itself; it is located at /etc/fstab
[19:21] <bubbi> nullie, Okay, its a Virtual machine, so I can add more ram on the fly - more or less..
[19:21] <Slart> Resonate: well.. vulnerabilities gets patched almost on a daily basis it seems.. perhaps they fixed this particular vulnerability.. or you've checked version numbers of the involved software?
[19:22] <dany2> darolu : i'll check the link thx
[19:22] <obscurant1st> darolu, http://pastie.org/874304 here is my fstab
[19:22] <Resonate> Slart: It isn't a vulnerability in this case, it's just executing machine code through C. It's the same as if I used execve on "/bin/sh".
[19:22] <darolu> dany2, np I think you were reading the wrong guide, good luck
[19:23] <Slart> Resonate: ah.. well that should work if I understand things correctly.. can't help you with specifics though
[19:24] <Resonate> Slart: Thanks anyway, I'll keep asking here in case someone happens to come by with experience. =/
[19:24] <dbook82> slart: put a different data disc in and it spun for a few seconds
[19:24] <darolu> obscurant1st, looks very default, no errors; double check your UUID's with "sudo blkid"
[19:25] <Slart> dbook82: but no files?
[19:25] <dbook82> slart: no, no files
[19:25] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: You installed build-essentials?
[19:26] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: And are you calling anything at compiletime that isn't in stdio.h?
[19:26] <casl> 9.10/karmic - unable to login via GUI -- click user name, then get "Unable to authenticate user"  -- in dmesg & syslog, found  gdm-session-worker reporting a segfault. http://www.pastie.org/874309
[19:26] <darolu> obscurant1st, you can also check the errors logs located at /var/log or with "dmesg"
[19:26] <obscurant1st> darolu, ok, let me check
[19:27] <llutz> obscurant1st: have you checked the UUIDs? last line missing "0" at then end
[19:27] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: Yup, installed build-essentials long ago, and I'm not calling any libraries.  Only using pointers, char and int really.
[19:27] <dbook82> slart: hmm typed eject -r and got that same input/output error, but pressing the eject button opens it up
[19:28] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Can you pastebin an example of shellcode?
[19:28] <dragonwave> hey
[19:28] <tufos> ola
[19:28] <dragonwave> I have a question
[19:28] <KB1JWQ> !ask | dragonwave
[19:28] <Sloy> m2. xD
[19:28] <dragonwave> Has ubuntu 9.10 auto trim support or do you need to do that manual?
[19:28] <obscurant1st> darolu, yeah, the uuid was wrong for swap
[19:28] <Osfeone> hi everybody
[19:28] <tufos> oloa
[19:28] <Sloy> Why i have problems with a USB mouse?
[19:28] <obscurant1st> so thats wht was happening i think.
[19:28] <obscurant1st> and btw, how can i check if my swap is on?
[19:29] <Daisho> york105: well, somehow I managed to get it working again. rebooted, started in recovery mode and typed "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd" and started up the GUI again
[19:29] <llutz> obscurant1st: free -m
[19:29] <KB1JWQ> dragonwave: It's in 2.6.33
[19:29] <phisher1> or just run top
[19:29] <tufos> ola soi chica
[19:29] <Osfeone> i wanna system remember my password and dont ask again how can i do that
[19:29] <darolu> obscurant1st, yeah it happens when  you repartitionate the hard drive
[19:29] <Daisho> york105: thank for getting me started in the right direction  :)
[19:29] <Sloy> i need use mouse on my laptop : /
[19:29] <obiwan_> hi guys
[19:29] <york105> Daishu, no problem, happy to be of assitance
[19:29] <Sloy> my keyboard and touchpadk working only if i push DEL on start. : o
[19:29] <Osfeone> can anyone hear me
[19:30] <Osfeone> i wanna system remember my password and dont ask again how can i do that
[19:30] <obscurant1st> llutz, http://pastie.org/874317 this is what it gave me
[19:30] <obscurant1st> darolu, thx
[19:30] <obiwan_> does anybody have iphone?
[19:30] <KB1JWQ> !anybody | obiwan_
[19:30] <obscurant1st> obiwan_, i hv ipod touch
[19:30] <obiwan_> haha ok sry
[19:30] <llutz> obscurant1st: sudo swapon -a
[19:30] <obiwan_> obscurant1st: do you use syncing in linux?
[19:30] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: It's from Shell Coder's Handbook if you know it. http://pastebin.com/5jLpxjM9
[19:30] <obiwan_> libgpod and stuff
[19:30] <dragonwave> So i have to wait to use ubuntu on an ssd?
[19:30] <darolu> obscurant1st, np, if your swap is not on right now, just reboot (is the easier way) or do what llutz just told you
[19:31] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Stand by, attempting it here.
[19:31] <obscurant1st> darolu, ok,
[19:31] <llutz> darolu: reboot? no way
[19:31] <dbook82> slart: i've tried a few other data discs and still nothing
[19:31] <obscurant1st> llutz, ok, so from nxt time onwards it will get automatically on when i reboot my system
[19:31] <Sloy> chow i can fix mouse?
[19:31] <darolu> llutz, your way works too =)
[19:31] <obscurant1st> ?
[19:31] <obscurant1st> obiwan_, yeah, i sync
[19:31] <obscurant1st> but using VBox+winXP+itunes
[19:31] <llutz> darolu: sure it does, no need to reboot
[19:32] <obiwan_> oh ok
[19:32] <bubbi> nullie, it seems that the "problems" have disappeared.. now, when I run the server, it runs fine.. weird thing.. I must have done something differently somehow :-) Thank you for your help!
[19:32] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Works correctly here.
[19:32] <obiwan_> obscurant1st: if i get to work this way ill come back and tell ya
[19:32] <obiwan_> that way you dont need all that htings
[19:32] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: What compiling options did you use?
[19:32] <obscurant1st> obiwan_, this will work
[19:33] <obiwan_> hehhe
[19:33] <MikeChelen> anyone know what video programs can play .mkv with hardware acceleration?
[19:33] <obiwan_> mplayer? im not sure but that plays everything xd
[19:33] <obscurant1st> coz i was trying with lots of syncing tools and audio players in ubuntu for syncing it, i didnt have any luck or easy way for doing it, so i ended up using this method
[19:33] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: None.  gcc shellcode.c, throws a warning about casting from a pointer to an integer of differing size at line 13.
[19:33] <darolu> MikeChelen, mplayer, read "man mplayer" to see all the options
[19:33] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Running the resulting binary completes successfully; you have a hosed gcc maybe?
[19:33] <nullie> MikeChelen, xmbc can use vdpau
[19:34] <mark__> hi guys how do i do the cool spin the desktop around in a square
[19:34] <obiwan_> xd i know i know obscurant1st its so hard for us linuxeros but ill keep trying
[19:34] <obiwan_> ok got to go byeeeeeee
[19:34] <dbook82> slart: did i lose ya?
[19:35] <Slart> dbook82: I still haven't found anything useful.. lots of people with cdrom problems.. but it's about game cd's and playing movie dvd's
[19:35] <Slart> dbook82: nope.. still her
[19:35] <arzonista> pls explain why is it that all my IM is not working. Pls help me,im a new user of ubuntu 9.04
[19:35] <darolu> mark__, with compiz
[19:35] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: This is weird. I reinstalled GCC, and it seems to work for that one now, so thanks. There is one more that still seg_faults, if you're not busy?
[19:36] <dbook82> slart: lol ok just checking. i've tried some bought game cds, burnt games cds, bought music cd's and the live dvd for ubuntu i burnt
[19:36] <darolu> !compiz > mark__
[19:36] <Myrtti> arzonista: your im is not working is not too helpful description of your problem. Which protocols don't work?
[19:36] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Sure.
[19:36] <MikeChelen> obiwan_, darolu: mplayer plays it but uses 100% cpu
[19:37] <dbook82> slart: if i had hair i'd pull it out
[19:37] <Resonate> KBWJWQ: http://pastebin.com/fuBPdfEf
[19:37] <arzonista> myrtti:yahoo.
[19:37] <dragonwave> Can i instal ubuntu than on an ssd without problems because it dousn't support trim command
[19:37] <MikeChelen> nullie: ok will try that, would like to find something in ubuntu repos
[19:37] <mark__> ok
[19:37] <t_corr2> Hi, all. I'm running Ubuntu Server 9.10 and I'm trying to figure out the "correct" way to disable printing the motd on login. I believe I found that removing the pam_motd line from /etc/pam.d/login will do it, but I've been trying to figure out what exactly updates the /etc/motd file
[19:38] <Myrtti> arzonista: how does it not work? does the application crash? can you log in? what doesn't work?
[19:38] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: http://pastebin.com/fuBPdfEf
[19:38] <darolu> MikeChelen, read all mplayer documentation if you want to play your file using specific options
[19:38] <t_corr2> There do not seem to be any cron scripts under /etc/cron.* which do it ... so I'm at a loss
[19:38] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: And what does this do?
[19:38] <trijntje> is there an easy way to record the output of your normal sound? Without an external microphone
[19:38] <arzonista> myrtti.i cant log in
[19:40] <Andorin> How do I stop Ubuntu from correcting the system clock for Daylight Savings Time?
[19:40] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: I just realised how dangerous it would be if I didn't explain it first, especially with that kind of a name. It's designed to guess program offsets between the ESP and the first instruction of the shellcode.
[19:40] <sab1999> hi there!
[19:41] <sab1999> who speak english?
[19:41] <darolu> trijntje, how to do it depends on the software you are using, but the general idea is to change the "recording source" from "input" to "output" channel.
[19:41] <Xpistos|work> can anyone direct me to a site that can help with video conversions?
[19:41] <jhattara> can i view PDF comments in Jaunty ?
[19:41] <sab1999> bueno pues hola -.-"
[19:41] <t_corr2> okay, shorter now: in Ubuntu Server 9.10, what is responsible for updating the /etc/motd file? Is there a cron script? Daemon? I can't find it.
[19:41] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Segfaults on multiple systems; it's a code issue, not a Ubuntu issue.
[19:41] <Pici> t_corr2: Take a look at the manpage for motd.tail, it explains the process.
[19:42] <t_corr2> Pici: Oh boy. thanks.
[19:42] <darolu> !ask | sab1999
[19:42] <trijntje> darolu: any program you know that can do that? I tryd the defauld soundrecorder but it doesnt seem to have ANY options
[19:42] <sab1999> que os den a todos wajajaja muajajaja xD es broma ¬¬" xD bueh tios by tios bye xD
[19:42] <Myrtti> arzonista: the version of pidgin jaunty ships is old and isn't compatible with yahoo servers anymore
[19:42] <Myrtti> !es | sab1999
[19:42] <Myrtti> meh
[19:42] <arzonista> Myrtti:pls help with my problem
[19:42] <steve1967> If I am running a hardware firewall do I need to install and run firestarter??
[19:43] <hogfoot> hi.  i need to rsync over ssh with a key pair using the www-data user...but since it's a psudo user there is no shell to add a keypair to.  any ideas?  is it safe to make www-data a full account with home dir?
[19:43] <Myrtti> arzonista: upgrade either your ubuntu or pidgin.
[19:43] <wolter> what options should I use if i want every user to be able to unmount?
[19:43] <hoonches> is virus scanner or clam av better?
[19:44] <hoonches> is virus scanner or scanner better?
[19:44] <arzonista> Myrtti:advice pls,how to upgrade it?
[19:44] <eremite> !best | hoonches
[19:44] <darolu> trijntje, I heard Audacity is very good
[19:44] <steve1967> you dont need to run a virus scanner except to verify that a file you are sending a windows user is clean
[19:44] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: Thanks, I assume I've forgotten to change an aspect of it before using it, as I doubt the code by itself is at error.
[19:44] <t_corr2> Pici: it seems like it is running more frequently than just on boot. for instance, the available updates keeps updating. i see there are scripts under /etc/update-motd.d/ but i don't know what runs them
[19:45] <hamzaatova3> my computer became slow since the last update--- why??????
[19:45] <darolu> trijntje, this guide should work for you (applies to gnome or other DE): http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/howto-record-soundcard-output-with-audacity-in-kde/
[19:45] <gnychis> I am trying to remove a file, that I am the owner of, but I am not in the group it belongs to... "-rwxrwxrwx 1 gnychis dp  29M 2007-03-12 03:31 core-full.2<IP_ADDRESS>.45.gz-db" ... whenever i try to rm it, it says permission died
[19:45] <MikeChelen> hamzaatova3: look at system monitor to see if something uses alot of memory or cpu?
[19:45] <harisund> How do I setup NetworkManager to recognize my cell phone as a modem through Bluetooth? There's a broadband option, but I don't see how bluetooth can be brought into the picture
[19:45] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Yeah, it blows up on BSD as well as Linux.
[19:47] <trijntje> darolu: thanks a lot!
[19:47] <Vigo> Is there an existing script to flush DNS and History and stuff at Log Off or would I have to figure out and write the code to do that?
[19:47] <darolu> gnychis, try with "sudo rm" or change the group with "sudo chown :yourgrup filename"
[19:47] <sunmao> hi
[19:47] <sunmao> is there anyone u use sheevaplug?
[19:47] <arzonista> myrtti:pls help me...how can i upgrade it?
[19:48] <hamzaatova3> MikeChelen, how do i open the sys mon?
[19:48] <dbook82> slart: still nothing?
[19:49] <Slart> dbook82: nope.. I'm searching the ubuntu forums now.. but it's just more dvd playing problems it seems
[19:49] <KB1JWQ> arzonista: Synaptic, or if you prefer command line, sudo apt-get update; sudo  apt-get upgrade
[19:50] <MikeChelen> hamzaatova3: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[19:50] <dbook82> slart: i've made my post on the ubuntu forums today...
[19:50] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: I found the website of the coder SCH got it off initially, and his/her code runs perfectly, but theirs does not. Not quite sure why not, but it's all solved now. Thanks for your help.
[19:50] <Vigo> KB1JWQ: Does that also require a key update?
[19:51] <nishanth> hey can someone tell me how i can degrade to jaunty jackalope from lucid lynx?
[19:51] <KB1JWQ> Vigo: A key update?
[19:51] <arzonista> KBLJWQ;thank you,ill try it now.
[19:52] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. I don't think I've seen it..
[19:52] <Vigo> KB1JWQ: Some packages require a new Key , I just tossed that in for observation.
[19:52] <dbook82> slart: its here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8982958#post8982958
[19:53] <Stargaze> !lucid| nishanth
[19:54] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. no answers so far.. lots of good info in that post.. perhaps someone have run into this before and knows how to fix it
[19:54] <blades> hello
[19:54] <harisund> Does anyone have any bluetooth experience here? I am trying to connect to my cell phone, and I am being forced to enter a passcode on both devices. How do I set it up in such a way that Ubuntu always uses a constant pin so I only have to enter it on my cell phone?
[19:54] <gogeta> ubuntu relly needs to upgrade its repos
[19:54] <trijntje> !hi
[19:55] <gogeta> flightgear 2.0 is out and only 1.9.1 is in the repos making me compile it :(
[19:55] <dbook82> slart: thats what i'm hoping, i figured that if i put what info i've gotten from the terminal, from suggestions given to me here, it might help a bit more
[19:57] <darolu> dbook82: what does "sudo lshw" prints?
[19:57] <ZykoticK9> gogeta, Ubuntu does not use a "rolling release" system (so packages are not version updated during a release - Firefox 3.6 as another example), you could check if a PPA contains the newer version.
[19:57] <Kuki> hi can someone help me to mount my external hard drive?
[19:58] <clustermagnet> guys, awful awful experience so far with ubuntu
[19:58] <Kuki> I only get an error mesage
[19:58] <clustermagnet> pulseaudio not working :(
[19:58] <clustermagnet> can someone plz help?
[19:58] <Vigo> !mount | Kuki
[19:58] <OerHeks> sudo lshw prints all hardware.
[19:58] <darolu> !ask | clustermagnet
[19:58] <clustermagnet> darolu: pardon
[19:58] <harisund> Every time I boot my system up I get a "Enter password for default keyring to unlock" <-- How do I remove that prompt? I don't want to use a keyring or whatever ..
[19:58] <Kuki> Vigo: I tried!
[19:59] <mowe> harisund: i think you can setup blueman to remember the phone as a friend or something
[19:59] <Kuki> but then I get an error
[19:59] <ZykoticK9> harisund, do you have auto-login turned on?
[19:59] <darolu> harisund, is Ubuntu One starting at boot?
[19:59] <dbook82> slart: this http://paste.ubuntu.com/396902/
[19:59] <Kuki> and it says that it cannot be mounted
[19:59] <elm669> 0.
[19:59] <harisund> darolu: No, this prompt is for NetworkManager, and ZykoticK9 yes I believe so
[19:59] <Nollog> sudo: lshw: command not found
[19:59] <Kuki> so what shall I do now?
[19:59] <sam555> hello all!
[19:59] <Losha> clustermagnet: that's pretty much the commonest complaint I see here on #ubuntu. I personally had good luck removing pulseaudio altogether, though I know people for whom this didn't work either: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[19:59] <Nollog> What did I do wrong?
[19:59] <JanSch> lxde suddenly stopped to open files, if i doubleclick any file (pdf, jpeg) on the desktop it asks me with what to open
[19:59] <sam555> anyone know how to install ntfs prog on ubuntu 9.10
[20:00] <JanSch> any ideas about that?
[20:00] <clustermagnet> Losha: really :(
[20:00] <clustermagnet> Losha: so apt-get remove the bastard huh?
[20:00] <ZykoticK9> harisund, if you turn autologin OFF then the keyright password won't come up - this is a security feature.  But the solution is to type your password in once, where is up to you.
[20:00] <gogeta> sam555 ubuntu 9.10 can do ntfs out of the box
[20:00] <duffydack> sam555, sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[20:00] <Vigo> Kuki: External HDD , does it have multiple Parts/Slices/exts or MBR stuff that could cause it not to be recognized?
[20:00] <blades> I recently switched to ubuntu 9 via wubi... My intention is to try my wireless card in monitoring mode as I sucessfully did on win xp but with the lack of few features... So my first problem is I manage to login as root (which way is the best???) via terminal sudo -s but I still don't have enough permissions to write in the usr folder, and I try to compile a driver form the $make command after using cd command and nothing happens, any good tuto
[20:00] <blades> rials about this, thanks in advance
[20:00]  * r0dzilla is trying to get his hp network scanner (hplip) to work with the simple scan utility
[20:00] <falstaff> Hello, is there an "event" when a disk is mounted? I use luks with nautilus (klick on it and then encrypt it), and would like to start rsync daemon after I unlocked the partition....
[20:00] <darolu> Nollog, type "sudo lshw" (lowercase L)
[20:00] <eremite> clustermagnet, yes, or aptitude instead of apt-get
[20:00] <r0dzilla> or do I need to use xsane instead of simple scan for network hp scanner
[20:00] <duffydack> but yes, should be installed by def.
[20:01] <Losha> clustermagnet: follow the web page, skip the alsagui stuff if you don't have it on your version, & try the rest. Like I said, it worked for me and a few other people, and didn't work for others...
[20:01] <Kuki> vigo: what is MBR?
[20:01] <elm669> Yea I have yet to get pulse audio working either, doesn't throw any errors, just doesn't work.
[20:01] <dbook82> kuki: Master Boot Record
[20:01] <Nollog> darolu: That's what I typed.
[20:01] <Losha> dbook82: you have amazing patience. Just a thought, you might have better luck using 8.04 LTS if that's a possibility for you...
[20:02] <Kuki> dbook82: I don't know! where do I find out?
[20:02] <DF5JT> Does anyone have an Intel HDA sound card running with pulse audio?
[20:02] <dbook82> slart: lol thats what i'm told, can i downgrade within ubuntu?
[20:02] <DF5JT> aplay -l shows no devices.
[20:02] <djura-san> hello
[20:02] <Vigo> Kuki: MBR> Master Boot Record
[20:02] <Kuki> I just bought the harddive newly so I could save my data from windows, and then install ubuntu an put the data back on my computer
[20:02] <gogeta> dsfjt yep works on my eee
[20:02] <elm669> hda intel here: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
[20:02] <dbook82> kuki: as far as i know MBR is Master Boot Record
[20:03] <JPZ> Hello everyone. I'm interested in upgrading rsyslodg to latest version on my ubuntu 9.10 but can't seem to make it work on a lab env. It compiled and runs but no logs are generated on files. any tips ?
[20:03] <Losha> dbook82: no, your only option would be a from-scratch install, but before you do that, I'd just try the 8.04 live cd and see if you it works any better with your cdrom...
[20:03] <DF5JT> Lspci shows the device
[20:03] <DF5JT> but pulse audio doesn't see it
[20:03] <Vigo> Kuki: Ok, then if you put Windows on it first, that is in the MBR, let me look around some.
[20:04] <dbook82> losha: ok... Thanks for the help guys. i've gotta get to class, so I'll be back on later
[20:04] <Lucid_33> hi everyone
[20:04] <Kuki> vigo: I killed windows
[20:04] <darolu> blades, using root is not recommended, you should use "sudo" only, "sudo -i" gets you root access, did you install the "build-essential" package? make comes with it.
[20:04] <djura-san> how to enable compiz that is actually working and with win decorations? I Have geforce 4 ti with nvidia 96.xx drivesr (from ubuntu repo) and i can use them. Transparent terminal is not working, notifications are white etc...
[20:04] <Kuki> vigo: my lap-top is all ubuntu now (since 2 days)
[20:05] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: i followed http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Adapters&thread.id=26579 but it still wont work
[20:05] <darolu> Nollog, lshw is very common, it should work without sudo too, try "lshw" only
[20:05] <Vigo> Kuki: But the MBR should remain, or does. http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=mbr
[20:05] <Kuki> by the way I tried to mout a USB-stik: that worked and was no problem
[20:05] <ipatrol> I did the modprobe but its not working
[20:05] <Losha> JPZ: doesn't it have a debugging mode or something? Check its man page...
[20:06] <clustermagnet> guys, thanks for help, i've removed pulseaudio... how do i tell the system to re-detect my sound card?
[20:06] <clustermagnet> i think i've mucked enough with this ... need a completere-configure of sound system
[20:06] <blades> darolu the card isn't supported by default, it seems cause it was connected but not installed, and there is no option in the driver panel too like for the vga somethimes for instance... I did not setup a root pass... so I tried at login screen root and no pass and that wont work, 2 yrs ago I tried fedora and managed sucesfully to login as root...
[20:06] <Alan502> i just downloaded a .patch file for bitlbee, how do i apply it?
[20:06] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: Hello??
[20:06] <djura-san> how to enable compiz that is actually working and with win decorations? I Have geforce 4 ti with nvidia 96.xx drivesr (from ubuntu repo) and i can use them. Transparent terminal is not working, notifications are white etc...
[20:06] <harisund> Alan502: You might have to download the source and patch it with your patch file, and recompile the applicatin
[20:06] <Nollog> It's l (EL) s (ES) h (HAY-CH) w (DOUBLE-U) right?
[20:07] <Vigo> Alan502: What was the source., i.e. where did the deb or pkg come from?
[20:07] <Losha> clustermagnet: reboot, per the web page. Then run alsamixer and make sure the playback stuff is unmuted...
[20:07] <Alan502> harisund, copy-paste the contents of the file?
[20:07] <JPZ> Losha, it does "-d" it generates a masssive amount of repeated logs. I tried searching on google for it but came up empty. Do you think there will be an update from rep for Rsyslog? or will it only be upgraded on ubuntu's next release.
[20:07] <Alan502> Vigo, i installed bitlbee from synaptic
[20:07] <Kuki> so vigo: what do you want me to find out about the MBR?
[20:07] <Stargaze> still no codename for Ubuntu 10.10?
[20:08] <clustermagnet> Losha: cna you please repaste the link?  (in a screen session)
[20:08] <Vigo> Alan502: Should just install correctly then
[20:08] <Losha> clustermagnet: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[20:08] <Alan502> Vigo, but i downloaded the patch separately.... not from synaptic
[20:08] <darolu> blades, it is not recommended to log in as root, but if you absolutelly need it, go to System - Admin - Users & Group and enable it
[20:08] <djura-san> oh crad
[20:08] <clustermagnet> Losha: thank you!!! :)
[20:08] <Vigo> Kuki: See if the Windows or something is still active, that page I linked from the forums should help.
[20:09] <djura-san> can somebody just answer me this: do i need kernel headers for nvidia binary drivers?
[20:09] <djura-san> how do you call that packages in ubuntu?
[20:09] <Alan502> Vigo, how should i "install" the patch?
[20:09] <root__> no
[20:09] <ipatrol> can someone help me? I did http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Adapters&thread.id=26579 but it still wont work
[20:09] <Losha> JPZ: rsyslog has a web page and archived mailing lists. I would start there if you're serious...
[20:09] <sam555> duffydack: it said it couldn't find dependancy packages
[20:10] <harisund> What is SeaHorse Daemon? What does it do?
[20:10] <markdd> anyone need help pm me
[20:10] <Vigo> Alan502: Ah, ok, that is why I asked what was the source, I would not. I would look for the correct .deb or pkg that works or is designed to work with the current or running kernel.
[20:10] <JPZ> Losha, been there as well. Well thanks anyways I'll see what else I can do to figure it out.
[20:10] <Losha> djura-san: I think you do, but I don't remember for sure. What kernel are you running (uname -a)
[20:11] <Alan502> Vigo, for bitlbee? i don't think bitlbee has something to do with the kernel
[20:11] <djura-san> the latest one. i think it's <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:11] <djura-san> let me check
[20:11] <blades> darolu, tnx... what about the permissions to write in the users/src folder and which is the correct way to install a driver via the make and make install commands, I already did that but nothing happend...
[20:11] <ipatrol> Anyone??
[20:11] <Vigo> Alan502: Versions matter, some stuff works on ### and some does not, yet. or never will.
 for ubunt 9.10 yes <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:12] <Losha> JPZ: I notice on the web page that Tom Bergfeld asks for feedback. He might want to know that it doesn't work for you...
[20:12] <djura-san> <IP_ADDRESS>-generic :)
[20:12] <ipatrol> Im quite exaserbated
[20:12] <ipatrol> Please
[20:12] <tuxuser> Hi
[20:12] <Alan502> Vigo, i'm looking in synaptic, but can't find the patch i downloaded
[20:12] <thopiekar> I'm a member of the Canola project and atm almost the only person working on Canola.. I need more people here at #canola to improve the code.. the player is great and many plugins are available.. please help. the developters that where working on it in the past were paied to work on it - now they have other priorities so - we need you!
[20:13] <Losha> djura-san: run apt-cache search  <IP_ADDRESS> | egrep headers and choose the one that matches your kernel
[20:13] <tuxuser> I've encoutered a bug in 9.10: the mouse pointer freezes with no apparent reason.
[20:13] <guntbert> !ot | thopiekar
[20:13] <tuxuser> I've found that a solution (workaround) is to modprobe -r psmouse and modprobe psmouse
[20:13] <thopiekar> sorry guntbert
[20:13] <Vigo> Alan502: That is where I was headed, it may not work with the version. Let me look at the deb packages.
[20:14] <tuxuser> Searching launchpad didn't return any result. Has anyone seen this behaviour ? Thanks
[20:14] <Stargaze> ipatrol, WUSB600N is that W USB? if it's USB, try sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch
[20:14] <djura-san> Losha: thank you. I will update my drivers. Tell me how do i enter runlevel 3 from terminal? "telinit 3" is not working
 do u have ati card?
[20:14] <hp> hi
[20:14] <ipatrol> Stargaze: Impossible, no net
[20:14] <ipatrol> Stargaze: I did http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Adapters&thread.id=26579
[20:14] <Alan502> Vigo, ok thanks
[20:14] <ipatrol> Fail
[20:15] <darolu> blackxored, how to compile and install depends on what you are trying to install, read the README or INSTALL files, if theya re not present go to wherever you got the sources and read the documentation; don't change /usr/src permissions
[20:15] <Vigo> Alan502: What version Ubuntu are you using now?
[20:15] <Stargaze> ipatrol, i read it -- do you want wireless or ethernet?
[20:15] <Losha> djura-san: that doesn't work on ubuntu. You have to stop gdm instead. I think you do it from a terminal by typing: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[20:15] <tuxuser> Lucid_33: No, it's a toshiba A100 with intel 945 (exact lspci line is: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03))
[20:15] <Alan502> Vigo, 9.10
[20:15] <ipatrol> Stargaze: Wireless
[20:15] <ipatrol> Sg
[20:15] <ipatrol> t
[20:15] <WanteD> mipconfig
[20:15] <deuz> My sound doesn't work with both like youtube and vlc any suggestions?
[20:16] <deuz> i mean
[20:16] <blackxored> darolu, what are you talking me about???
[20:16] <ipatrol> Stargaze: I have syslog right in front of me
[20:16] <deuz> when for example vlc is on i cant get sound from youtube wihtout restarting
[20:16] <Stargaze> ipatrol, try ethernet first, it's easier to look for a solution when your troubled pc is online
[20:16] <Vigo> Alan502: Here is the BIG list. http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and here is 9.10: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/ But look at the Big List because it may be a backport.
[20:16] <deuz> on ubuntu 8.04
[20:16] <darolu> blackxored, sorry wrong name (I use tab-completion)
[20:16] <guntbert> !enter | deuz
[20:16] <ipatrol> Stargaze: The device only has USB ports
[20:17] <blackxored> darolu, I assumed that, not a big deal
[20:17] <darolu> blades,  how to compile and install depends on what you are trying to install, read the README or INSTALL files, if theya re not present go to wherever you got the sources and read the documentation; don't change /usr/src permissions
[20:17] <Stargaze> ipatrol, can you not use a wired USB connection?
[20:17] <Alan502> Vigo, ah, ok thanks; i'll give it a look
[20:17] <casl> 9.10/karmic - unable to login via GUI -- click user name, then get "Unable to authenticate user"  -- in dmesg & syslog, found  gdm-session-worker reporting a segfault. http://www.pastie.org/874309  -- anyone?
[20:17] <ipatrol> Stargaze: I dont have one at all
[20:17] <Vigo> Alan502: You are very welcome, I am still looking for that package though.
[20:18] <Daisho> hey, guys, can anyone tell me how to get the shutdown applet in the upper right corner to appear?
[20:18] <Trek> Daisho: did you delete it?
[20:18] <Alan502> Vigo, i don't think it's on the repositories, it's just a patch
[20:18] <Stargaze> ipatrol, my advice is to get a USB cabe first and use that to go online, then try to fix your wireless connection
[20:18] <Alan502> :(
[20:18] <Stargaze> *cabe = cable
[20:19] <Alan502> Vigo, i can just find other plugins, but not exactly the one i am looking for
[20:19] <ipatrol> Stargaze: "Activation (wlan0): Acess point 'OpenPuerta' has security, but secrets are requested
[20:19] <Stargaze> ipatrol, see if iwlist helps
[20:19] <tuxuser> Daisho: on my 9.10 I just right-click on the top bar => add to panel => Shutdown (or whatever it's called, I'm on and Italian desktop) HTH
[20:19] <Vigo> Alan502: Is it a deb?
[20:19] <resno> any help on getting beep to work?
[20:19] <bastid_raZor> !panels | Daisho .. this may help
[20:19] <Daisho> Trek: I don't know. I fixed an issue with the toolbars not showing and now the applet is gone
[20:20] <Trek> Daisho, what version of Ubu
[20:20] <deuz> Im having some sound issues, I can't get sound from youtube while vlc is active and vice versa. Any suggestions. i'm on ubuntu 8.04
[20:20] <ipatrol> Stargaze: iwlist [what?]
[20:20] <Alan502> Vigo, the ones i found where debs, yes, and they are on synaptic too. The one i downloaded is a .patch
[20:20] <Daisho> Trek: 9.10 64-bit
[20:20] <Stargaze> ipatrol, try some options
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[20:21] <ipatrol> Stargaze: which?
[20:21] <beilabs> Hey guys, I'm experience a brute force attack, is there a way I can use IP tables to block an IP on a port 80?
[20:21] <Stargaze> ipatrol, see which option can be of interest to you
[20:21] <Daisho> I guess there's some problem with fast-user-switch-applet but I can't install it
[20:22] <ipatrol> I dont know, none
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> beilabs: sure, just block all connections on the port
[20:22] <metaperl[A]> is there a dpkg option to install all dependancies for a .deb file you are trying to install?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> !iptables | beilabs
[20:22] <beilabs> ActionParsnip, just on the one IP?
[20:22] <ipatrol> Stargaze: Do you really understand this?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> beilabs: sure
[20:22] <Stargaze> ipatrol, in that case, i stick to my advice
[20:22] <tuxuser> beilabs: try something similar to: iptables -I INPUT 1 --src $offending_ip -j DROP
[20:23] <ipatrol> Any other bright ideas anyone?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: sup?
[20:23] <Daisho> ubotto: when I use that command I get an error: <<A problem has occurred..."OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet">>
[20:23] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: I tried http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Adapters&thread.id=26579 and it failed again, with other networks too
[20:23] <Kuki> vigo: well most of the theads say to redo the MRB with a Windows-CD. But do I really want that? And why I need to see if there's still some Windows aktive?  A more appropriate command is: iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DROP
[20:24] <conb123> Hiya I am having a little bit of trouble with compiz, I created a profile containing my preferred compiz configuration in ccsm and now when I reboot compiz is disabled, I switch it back on using system > preferences > appearance but it has switched back to default settings, even when I switch to the profile I made it is still default settings, do I need to add compiz --replace to startup? Or is that an old necessity?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: does it compile ok?
[20:24] <guntbert> Daisho: ubottu is our friendly bot :-))
[20:24] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Yes
[20:24] <Vigo> Alan502: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=71031341 That is the Forum , still looking
[20:24] <Daisho> well, I never  :)
[20:24] <ipatrol> Let me paste something
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> conb123: do you have 3D asccelleration setup?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> conb123: if you press ALT+F2 and type: compiz --replace     does it all enable?
[20:25] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Yup I got it all working fine before, rotate cuve was working just all resets after reboot
[20:25] <tuxuser> Daisho: have you tried re-adding the shutdown apple as I suggested ? Did it persist or does it loose it ?
[20:26] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: /var/log/syslog/ "Activation (wlan0): Access point 'OpenPuerta' has security, but secrets are requested"
[20:26] <conb123> ActionParsnip: After I set it again everything works fine, I am using proprietary ati drivers on a radeon hd 5750 by the way
[20:26] <Alan502> Vigo, thanks, i hope i can find something about the bitlbee msn patch i'm looking for
[20:26] <Kuki> vigo: if I start a windows CD wont that kill my ubuntu?
[20:26] <Vigo> Kuki: If is a dual boot system, or has a choice of OSs, then the Windows MBR and then the Brub or Lilo loader will have to be configured.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> conb123: then add a startup entry to run the command, all done
[20:26] <Daisho> tuxuser: when I add it like that I only get a shutdown icon. I would like to have an entire tab in the upper right corner, next to the clock.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: have you websearched the error?
[20:27] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Oh ok then awesome, it's just last time I had compiz working and i didn't need to add that command it did everything automatically
[20:27] <Vigo> Alan502: You are very welcome, I hope that Forum page helps.
[20:27] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Repeatedly
[20:27] <Kuki> vigo: well in windows I had "2" hard drives...
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> conb123: thats all i can suggest. personally i dont use compiz at all
[20:27] <Kuki> but now I have only one
[20:27] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks for all your help :D
[20:27] <Kuki> vigo: is that the problem?
[20:28] <Kuki> does that have to do something with MBR?
[20:28] <JanSch> hi, my lxde suddenly stopped to open files, if i doubleclick any file (pdf, jpeg) on the desktop it asks me with what to open
[20:28] <Vigo> Kuki: Right, partitions, or whatever, the Grub loaded may need updating, still searching for that solution .
[20:29] <Signal360> anybody know how to install the mysql connector/c on ubuntu?
[20:29] <BrixSat> hello
[20:29] <Signal360> need it for compiling php5.
[20:29] <BrixSat> i have no sound on my ubuntu 9.10 :/
[20:29] <jrib> Signal360: php5 is in the repositories, no need to compile
[20:29] <jrib> !lamp > Signal360
[20:29] <Nollog> compiling would make it go a little faster surely.
[20:29] <Signal360> oh jesus.
[20:29] <Vigo> Kuki: This may be the one, or close: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740221&highlight=update+grub
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: Have you tried changing the channel on the home router ? sometimes interference stops it connecting. Changing the channel oftrn works according to: http://forums.opensuse.org/network-internet/wireless/394209-cant-connect-my-wpa2-network-2.html
[20:29] <tuxuser> Daisho: ok, so you have to add the indicator-applet-session. I don't have the exact name in front of me, but it should be something like session indicator
[20:29] <Signal360> :<
[20:30] <Signal360> i never knew about lamp.
[20:30] <dunya> good evening
[20:30] <pokoko222> guys recommend me a good personal wiki that does not require web server, for ubuntu
[20:30] <Signal360> oh well.
[20:30] <JanSch> pokoko222: wiki on a stick
[20:30] <pokoko222> what?
[20:30] <dunya> oh this interface is weird
[20:31] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Every other non-nix computer works
[20:31] <dunya> lol
[20:31] <BrixSat> i have no sound on my ubuntu 9.10 :/  where can i list the soundcards»
[20:31] <Trek> ipatrol: is it possible your router is denying Linux connections?
[20:31] <BrixSat> i have no sound on my ubuntu 9.10 :/  where can i list the soundcards?
[20:31] <darolu> pokoko222, http://stickwiki.sourceforge.net/
[20:31] <dunya> nix haters in a nix chat what ever will they think of next
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: seems wicd is a way forward, try installing it instead of networkmanager
[20:31] <tuxuser> pokoko222: http://stickwiki.sourceforge.net/
[20:31] <ipatrol> Trek: Why?
[20:31] <Vigo> BrixSat: Ubuntu Hardware?
[20:31] <Stargaze> BrixSat, type sudo lshw -html > hardware.html, then open hardware.html
[20:32] <eremite> BrixSat, try adjusting the levesl by typing alsamixer into a terminal and using your keyboard arrow move the volume levels up.
[20:32] <blades> Compile the driver sources:
[20:32] <blades>   $ make
[20:32] <blades>   3. Install the driver (as root):
[20:32] <blades>    # make install    that is meant to use with aircrack but when I asked on aircrack channel they "sent" me here lol
[20:32] <FloodBot4> blades: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <faron> okay everybody yesterday I installed vers 10.1 d51 shockwave flashplayer by way of a tarball unpack install.Now,I would like to uninstall this but,for some reason I am being told by the terminal when I try to remove it that way that there is no such file/directory.Anybody have any ideas as to how I can uninsatll this thing ?
[20:32] <Trek> ipatrol: some routers and things dont like nix
[20:32] <dunya> brix just go to the ubuntu help page if you cant follow that it might not work that great you have this so you should have sound
[20:32] <Trek> !pastebin | blades
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | faron
[20:32] <darolu> BrixSat, open a terminal and type: lspci | grep audio
[20:32] <jrib> blades: aircrack is in the repositories
[20:32] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: I really need a quick answer or ill have to install a proprietary system
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: if it works dude go for it
[20:33] <ipatrol> Trek: Would linksys do that on purpose?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> faron: copy the .so file to your plugins folder
[20:33] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: but itdoesnt work
[20:33] <Trek> ipatrol: not sure, might be a glitch in the hardware's files, but i'm not super-familiar with Linksys
[20:33] <Vigo> BrixSat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport That is the link
[20:33] <ipatrol> Im running out of options here
[20:33] <dunya> cant make multi lines
[20:33] <Mousey> halp! what makes fn-f10 work on my notebook in ubuntu but not in debian?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: linksys is the home grade Cisco which uses unix or bsd (i forget which)  as its OS
[20:33] <AbortD> is alpha 2 out for lucid?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | AbortD
[20:34] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: My client is a small buisness
[20:34] <blades> jrib, I'm talking about to install the proper wifi driver
[20:34] <darolu> AbortD, I think it reached Beta
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: thats moot
[20:34] <WSucks> how do i join a different server thats not on the list of servers?
[20:34] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Iv tried for months upon months
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> WSucks: /server servername
[20:34] <Mousey> halp! what makes fn-f10 work on my notebook in ubuntu but not in debian?
[20:34] <datacrusher> WSucks, /server irc.server.dom
[20:34] <Trek> wsucks: /server <SERVER IP> <PORT>
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: could use ndisgtk
[20:35] <markdd> linksys now uses a form of windows
[20:35] <ipatrol> They lease the router and it is locked
[20:35] <de9ine|two> How can i choose what version of a application i want to install using apt.
[20:35] <faron> WHAT is ubottu talking about ?? Lucid Lynx ?? I never sai a thing about lucidlynx
[20:35] <markdd> the only linksys routers that now use linux are the ones that have an l in thie name
[20:35] <de9ine|two> for example i do not want to install php 5.2.x i want to install php 5.1.x
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> markdd: thatd be expensive for cisco
[20:35] <jrib> de9ine|two: no
[20:35] <markdd> what would @actionparsnip
[20:36] <Trek> faron: the upcoming version of Ubuntu is Lucid Lynx, current version is 9.10 Karmic Koala
[20:36] <jrib> de9ine|two: well technically yes, but practically, on ubuntu, no
[20:36] <darolu> de9ine|two, use apt-cache search <yourapp> to get a list of available versions
[20:36] <ipatrol> I heard it too, MS cut them a deal afew years ago
[20:36] <Daisho> tuxuser: ah, thanks, I found it in the list, but I still would like to have it to the right of the clock. is there any way of doing that?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> markdd: licensing for their OS when they can use an open solution
[20:36] <de9ine|two> darolu, that much i know :P jrib  okey, so ill just go and compile the source of my version by hand.
[20:36] <ipatrol> Mabye the deal includes cutting linux support
[20:37] <jrib> de9ine|two: if you think you must for some reason
[20:37] <tuxuser> Daisho: right click on it => move => force it to move past the clock; the two "applets" should swap automagically. Eventyally right click => lock on panel.
[20:37] <blades> darolu, the readme says:  Compile the driver sources:
[20:37] <blades>  $ make
[20:37] <blades>  3. Install the driver (as root):
[20:37] <blades> # make install  of course after setiing the proper folder via cd command, but after I did the 2nd and 3th step nothing happens... that is meant to use with aircrack but when I asked on aircrack channel they "sent" me here lol
[20:37] <FloodBot4> blades: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:37] <tuxuser> Daisho s/Eventyally/Eventually/
[20:37] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Ill try ndis
[20:37] <blades> I just used the pastebin, what's wrong now ???
[20:37] <jrib> blades: you were told about pastebin before, please stop pasting into the channel
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: if it gets it working i'd run with it
[20:38] <markdd> @actionparsnip would else would they have a disteintion between linux routers and others?
[20:38] <ipatrol> Trying
[20:38] <Daisho> tuxuser: the problem is that the applet is stuck to the left of the "border" and won't move any farther to the right
[20:38] <knoppies> if I am on a shared computer at a university, would it be relativly safe to log into ubuntu one (I have my own account and home folder)?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> markdd: the ability to make them do more than just route with a little know how is useful
[20:39] <darolu> blades, aircrack is on the repos, you can install with sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng; anyways usually you need to ./configure first, if compiling worked your binary should be there
[20:39] <tuxuser> Daisho: you might need to unlock the clock too... right click => uncheck "lock on the panel" (or whatever it's called in the original version)
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: sure you can use ssh and x forward the apps from your home pc with the right config :)
[20:39] <Losha> ActionParsnip: cisco is so huge they can negotiate very favourable terms for licensing. Measured against the savings in hardware cost they make because the proprietary system they use (I forget the name) has a much smaller footprint, it's a win for them...
[20:40] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Cisco only cares about profit
[20:40] <Daisho> tuxuser: ah! there we go, everything is in order again. Thanks a lot! (I might ask you to marry me in the near future  :)
[20:40] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: I could try that, Im a little concerned about the bandwidth usage, I get 200mb per month.
[20:40] <arzonista> guys what is the anti virus application that compatible with ubuntu 9.04?
[20:40] <jrib> arzonista: why do you want an anti virus?
[20:40] <marex> helo
[20:40] <ipatrol> Many linksys users wouldnt know ssh if it just started up one day and printf'd "mama"
[20:40] <knoppies> arzonista: clam AV I think, but Im not sure.
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: you need to check upstream allowance as that is what will be used a lot
[20:40] <heoa> How can you use export-command in crontab-entry? http://pastebin.org/116544
[20:41] <Losha> ipatrol: it's a US for-profit corporation. You might as well blame lions for doing nothing but eating...
[20:41] <blades> darolu, thanks but I'm not having trouble using aircrack; I can't install device drivers for RT73 wifi
[20:41] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: the 200mb is for at uni, at home I have 10Gigs, not worried about that.
[20:41] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: and I assume its also limited in the 200mb.
[20:41] <ipatrol> Losha: Read Supercapitalism and youll see the casualties of all that eating
[20:41] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: upstream I mean.
[20:41] <tuxuser> Daisho: glad to be helpful :-)
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: i think you will find the 200Mb is the speed, not allowance
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: it will be fine, go for it dude
[20:42] <arzonista> jrib:for protection,is it advicible?
[20:42] <jrib> !virus | arzonista
[20:42] <Losha> ipatrol: I'm unemployed. I know all about the consequences...
[20:42] <darolu> blades, have you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73
[20:42] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: I get 200mb of bandwidth per month, its not the speed, its the data cap. But I will give it a try. I just got to set up a DynDNS at home.
[20:43] <drichert> Anyone know if the Azurewave wireless interface in ASUS laptops is supported under Ubuntu? AW-NE785 or AW-NE771. I *think* they're Atheros chipsets.
[20:43] <blades> darolu, not yet, I try now...
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: can use no-ip.com too. some routers allow you to put the account in the router itself
[20:43] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: mine allows for dyndns, I tried no-ip but I couldnt get it to update on IP change.
[20:43] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: thanks. I really appreciate it.
[20:44] <arzonista> thank you guys
[20:44] <Daisho> okay, that's it for today. goodnight
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: you can install the noip2 client on the system to update from the system.
[20:45] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: I tried that, and I coudlnt get it working. But I thought I would give the dynDNS a try, because my router supports that.
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> drichert: from liveCD run: sudo lshw -C network    you will be shown
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: good enough :D
[20:46] <knoppies> thanks again ActionParsnip
[20:46] <tuxuser> Anyone mouse / touchpad pointer randomly freeze ?
[20:48] <abstrakt> problem: panel is not auto hiding. I have a single panel with nothing but a workspace switcher in it. The panel is set to auto hide but when it pops up the tooltip saying "click to drag to another desktop" the panel stays open even after i move my mouse off it. How do i fix this. This is MAJORLY &*#($*! annoying....
[20:48] <coppelman> hello i hucke dup a 2nd sata drive last night and every thatng worked great now that i moved the pc back up stairs i cant find the drive
[20:48] <drichert> ActionParsnip: I don't have it in front of me. I'm shopping for a $500ish laptop. Asus seems to have some good ones, but I'd like to know if wireless is going to be a hassle before buying
[20:48] <coppelman> all the wires are good its just goon
[20:48] <abstrakt> i tried gconf-editor to turn off tooltips for the panel but that didn't take effect, i still get the "click to drag to another workspace" tooltip
[20:48] <Krutibrko_> ahoj
[20:48] <crodgers> good afternoon everyone
[20:48] <abstrakt> i saw a "tooltip" item in gconf editor for the workspace switcher, but it had an empty value and I have no idea what to set it to to turn of the panel tooltips or if this will even fix the problem
[20:49] <tuxuser> coppelman: are you 120% sure the sata cables are firmly in place ? They're so badly designed...
[20:49] <coppelman> is there a way to mount it from term
[20:49] <guntbert> coppelman: can you try your question in a language we can understand?
[20:49] <coppelman> yes
[20:49] <cdsboy> Could someone help me with my ntfs mounting issues? fdisk -l, fstab, and mount attempt here http://pastebin.com/MqkMjwbs
[20:49] <coppelman> lol
[20:49] <coppelman> sorry
[20:49] <coppelman> i wired in a 2nd sata drive
[20:50] <cdsboy> note: i'm trying to mount /dev/sdc1 which does exist
[20:50] <cdsboy> the other drives should be irrelivent, i realize they're a mess
[20:50] <coppelman> had it mounted and even filled it up with movies 4 my wife now i cant find it after i restared it
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | drichert
[20:50] <crodgers> question: I tried following these instructions, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick, for OS X and my flash drive is labelled as not bootable
[20:50] <Take0n> I don't know what I have done but everytime I login to ubuntu I have to manually run metacity and then compiz settings otherwise I have no window borders etc. can this be solved somehow?
[20:50] <Trek> cdsboy: make sure you have package ntfs-progs or ntfs-utils or whatever it is installed first
[20:50] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Where is the inf?
[20:51] <crodgers> i'm trying to get the netbook remix onto a netbook, obviously
[20:51] <lukasz> czesc wam
[20:51] <ipatrol> The drivers use C and makefiles
[20:51] <lukasz> jest ktos?
[20:51] <jeremy_> hello
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: you need to download the windows driver, it will have an inf file and a sys file
[20:51] <guntbert> !pl | lukasz
[20:51] <ashToDust> co jest?
[20:52] <cdsboy> Trek: i have it, and i have one ntfs partition mounted just fine
[20:52] <coppelman> so like i was trying to ask how do you mount a drive on terminal
[20:52] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: K
[20:52] <tuxuser> coppelman: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd[a-d] ?
[20:52] <Losha> coppelman: presumably a hardware glitch. Does the drive spin up? Does the kernel see it (dmesg | egrep sd)
[20:53] <tuxuser> coppelman: sudo mkdir /mnt/disk; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk
[20:53] <Aciid> how can I solve python2.4-gtk2 depency on Karmic 64bit?
[20:53] <tuxuser> coppelman: then ls -l /mnt/disk to verify
[20:53] <Aciid> it's not in the repos
[20:53] <AbortD> anyone get crappy wifi service with atheros on karmic?
[20:53] <crodgers> anyone have any trouble with these instructions in OS X? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:54] <coppelman> Disk /dev/sda: 100.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[20:54] <coppelman> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 12161 cylinders
[20:54] <coppelman> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[20:54] <coppelman> Disk identifier: 0x1549f232
[20:54] <coppelman>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[20:54] <FloodBot4> coppelman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <coppelman> /dev/sda1   *           1       11811    94871826   83  Linux
[20:54] <crodgers> i'm looking for a solution and can't find one via google or the forums
[20:54] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: The driver only comes as a simgle .exe
[20:54] <cdsboy> crodgers: you're going to get nothing done there. Clearly state your problem and any information you believe is relevant
[20:54] <coppelman> ?
[20:55] <ronin2307> hi, i need a bit help setting up drupal 6.16 on 9.10 server if anybody is willing to help. specifically i cannot get the mail to flow from the server to any recepient
[20:55] <MobiusJedi> here's a fun one: system tray applets keep loading on my desktop instead of the panel
[20:55] <bastid_raZor> !mount | coppelman  follow this link. it will tell all.
[20:55] <tuxuser> coppelman: apparently the 2nd drive is not seen by the system. There is little you can do sw-wise now. Double check hw.
[20:55] <crodgers> I followed these instructions for putting a live boot onto a flash drive, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick for OS X, and the drive is labelled as not bootable.  i need it to be bootable but am not knowledgeable enough
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: use cabextract, a quick websearch would reveal that to you
[20:57] <AbortD> no one has trouble with atheros wifi card?
[20:57] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Wait, I have zips
[20:57] <ipatrol> Also I did, failed
[20:57] <guntbert> coppelman: next time use pastebin please
[20:57] <ipatrol> It appears fri
[20:57] <guntbert> !pastebin | coppelman
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> AbortD: depends on the chip, my AR5001X+ works out of the box
[20:57] <g6okia> crodgers: you are using Windows?
[20:57] <heoa> How can you append next line to your Bash-command, something like \\ or /n looking?
[20:58] <crodgers> g6okia: no, OS X
[20:58] <datacrusher> hello everyone, iv tested 2 webcams here on my notebook, one image goes upside down, other normal. this was to test if /dev/video0 was working ( i used cheese) but none of them worked with skype. anyone had success using webcam with skype?
[20:58] <ipatrol> om a dissassembly that its stored in several C strings
[20:58] <tuxuser> crodgers: on ubuntu, fdisk /dev/<usb dongle device>, you should see a single partition; you can then make it bootable with the appropriate command (don't remember it right now)
[20:58] <blades> thanks for now, come back later... bye
[20:58] <crodgers> tuxuser: thanks i'll look into that
[20:58] <meganerd> AbortD: I have 4 atheros radeos running in homebrew APs.
[20:58] <meganerd> AbortD: you are going to have to be more specific
[20:58] <mattgyver> cdsboy, did you try specifying the type with -t ntfs? worth a shot
[20:59] <cdsboy> mattgyver: didn't work
[20:59] <g6okia> crodgers: you may want to use this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[20:59] <tuxuser> crodgers: the tricky part is identifying the /dev/ entry for the usb key. If you operate on the wrong device, you could mess up your system disk!
[20:59] <cdsboy> a note, the palimpsest disk utility cannot see the partition
[20:59] <cdsboy> idk if that means anything, but fdisk clearly shows it being there
[21:00] <tuxuser> crodgers: dmesg a few times after plugging in the usb key, you'll see what device the kernel assigns to it. HTH
[21:00] <meganerd> AbortD: I even have a new Atheros running as an AP in N mode
[21:00] <MobiusJedi> any idea why my applets won't sit in the system tray where they belong?
[21:00] <AbortD> meganerd, my single should be at 80% if not 100% i'm right by the router and during downloads sometimes i get disconnected from the network
[21:00] <obiwan_> hey guys anybody uses gpm?
[21:00] <AbortD> it runs in G
[21:00] <ipatrol> Why must everything be so difficult on linux?
[21:00] <obiwan_> sry i mean, anybody uses gpm with macbook?
[21:00] <djura-san> ipatrol: becuse it's not windows :|
[21:00] <AbortD> ipatrol because it offers more than windows
[21:00] <meganerd> AbortD: how crowded is the 2.4 Ghz in your area
[21:00] <g6okia> ipatrol: are you using in console mode? :)
[21:00] <ipatrol> Yes
[21:01] <mattgyver> cdsboy, i wonder if the partition is corrupt
[21:01] <cdsboy> mattgyver: i can mount it in gentoo and windows
[21:01] <meganerd> ipatrol: everything is not more difficult in Linux
[21:01] <mattgyver> oh wow
[21:01] <cdsboy> yeah.
[21:01] <ipatrol> But who cares if you can grok your iptables if it takes 3 hours to do so?
[21:01] <AbortD> meganerd, i have seen more networks popping up but mostly N and i have it running on a uncommon signal channel so it doesnt get interference
[21:01] <khem_> Hello my friends!
[21:02] <meganerd> ipatrol: because once you know what you are doing it does not take 3 hours
[21:02] <ipatrol> We need less bash, more GTK+
[21:02] <khem_> I got some issues I have a hard time to resolve with stunnel in Ubuntu, even after a fair share of Googleing.
[21:02] <g6okia> everything is dificult when we don't know how to use it
[21:02] <meganerd> AbortD: define "uncommon"
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: its not, its just different to what you have used for all this time, if you'd used linux as much as windows you'd find it easy too.  Even though i havent set it to be in inetd mode.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> cdsboy: http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html
[21:02] <AbortD> meganerd, gimme a sec i will double check the channel i think its 6
[21:02] <fabio666> no offense: qt4 a lot better than gtk
[21:03] <meganerd> AbortD: there are only 3 distinct channels.  Channel 3 overlaps with both 1 and 6
[21:03] <khem_> It doesnt make any sense.
[21:03] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: The second problem seems to be the issue here
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> fabio666: none taken , use what you like
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: its getting better, some companys have done it for ages (like nvidia)
[21:03] <meganerd> AbortD: 6 is usually the default and is the busiest.  Wifi is like a hub, even traffic that is not on your network slows everyone else down
[21:03] <ipatrol> fabio666: GTK+ -> Any gui toolkit
[21:03] <AbortD> meganerd,  yeah its channel 6 but i know how the isp sets up peoples routers they set them to 11 because they run off of 7 i think
[21:03] <cdsboy> ActionParsnip: I have ntfs-3g installed, and i already have one ntfs partition mounted.
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> cdsboy: then use the same command, just a different device ad different mount point
[21:04] <AbortD> meganerd, and it works flawlessly in windows 7
[21:04] <meganerd> ipatrol: less bash and more GTK?  No thanks.  THe mouse is slower than the keyboard
[21:04] <tuxuser> ipatrol: it took me _weeks_ to grok iptables, but it's been satisfying and useful in the long term. On that other os I can't even get that close to the network kernel stuff anyway...
[21:04] <fabio666> ipatrol: do u like tk + tcl ?
[21:04] <AbortD> meganerd, and i have a great signal also
[21:04] <ipatrol> !ot | ipatrol
[21:05] <meganerd> ipatrol: besides, this is not even true on Windows.  I will take bash and a config file over the registry any day
[21:05] <alex__> hallo leute
[21:05] <cdsboy> ActionParsnip: see http://pastebin.com/MqkMjwbs which i already posted. If it was as simple as running mount i wouldn't be here.
[21:05] <ipatrol> !ot | meganerd
[21:05] <alex__> ich habe ein problem mit meiner auflösung
[21:05] <alex__> kann jemand helfen?
[21:05] <meganerd> AbortD: how many APs can you see?  How many others on channel 6 (or nearby, like 4, 5, 7, 8)
[21:05] <AbortD> meganerd, would you say channel 2 would be safe you said 1, 3, 6 overlaps
[21:05] <Flare183> !english | alex__
[21:06] <meganerd> AbortD: 1, 6, and 11 do not overlap
[21:06] <ikonia> !de | alex__
[21:06] <AbortD> i see 2 right now one is my wireless antenna from the isp and the other is my neighbors and i doubt its near my channel
[21:06] <AbortD> oh
[21:06] <meganerd> AbortD: the channels right next to each other overlap.  Think of a bell curve.
[21:06] <meganerd> ipatrol: that was cute
[21:07] <AbortD> meganerd, ah ok i catch you
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> cdsboy: does the partition show up in the output of: sudo parted -l   ?
[21:07] <omen333> connect irc.krakow.pl
[21:07] <djura-san> so is there any workaround for argb thingie in ubuntu 9.10? My window drawing is slower in ubuntu when i turn off composite effects and and when i turn them on they are not showing window decorations.
[21:07] <ikonia> cdsboy: manually create the device file, that's what it's complaining about
[21:07] <meganerd> AbortD: of course your neighbors may not cooperate.  I moved to 802.11a at home because people have APs on pretty much every channel, there is no clear space
[21:08] <cdsboy> ikonia: any information on how to do that?, ActionParsnip: I believe so
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> cdsboy: if you add an entry in /etc/fstab using the UUID, does it mount. Have you tried mounting the partition using its UUID instead of /dev/sdc1 etc
[21:08] <ikonia> cdsboy: just do a mknod
[21:08] <ikonia> cdsboy: either it didn't get created at boot time (in which case you have a bug) or something deleted it
[21:08] <meganerd> AbortD: plus two of them seem to have some sort of high gain antenna since their signal strengh is higher than some of the APs in my house
[21:08] <teage> i am trying to install a game called egoboo 2.7.4 and the instructions tell me to run this command ( make -f Makefile.unix) yet it does not work. I have noticed the makefile and its called (makefile) without the .unix . Do you think that maybe the instructions are wrong?
[21:08] <cdsboy> ActionParsnip: doesn't show up in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[21:08] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Error
[21:09] <ipatrol> it was called autorun.inf
[21:09] <ikonia> teage: sounds wrong, I'd contact the support resources for the game and ask them
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: you dont use that file, you want a  different inf
[21:09] <meganerd> teage: possibly.  You will need to install the package "build-essential".  Of course, the error you get might be useful, use pastebin.
[21:09] <AbortD> meganerd, the one i see is running on a wireless n connection and is probably atleast a 100 yards from my house
[21:09] <alex__> how do i connect to an other channel?
[21:09] <meganerd> AbortD: B,G, and most N all use 2.4 Ghz, which is what matters
[21:10] <AbortD> ah
[21:10] <cdsboy> ikonia: i've never used mknod before and the man page isn't making any sense to me, any tips on how to accomplish what i want?
[21:10] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Could not find network configuration tool
[21:10] <guntbert> aleksil: type /join #nameofotherchannel
[21:11] <AbortD> meganerd, what do you think would be a dsafe signal to broadcast
[21:11] <meganerd> AbortD: wikipedia has a good table mapping channel to frequency
[21:11] <ikonia> cdsboy: look at the device files for /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc and you should see the paterns for the major/minor numbers
[21:11] <meganerd> AbortD: whatever is legal and whatever your gear can handle
[21:11] <ikonia> meganerd: AbortD maybe take this to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[21:11] <Andorin> How do I stop Ubuntu from correcting the system clock for Daylight Savings Time?
[21:11] <meganerd> AbortD: at the high end many radeos distort, so even though you have the amp cranked, you are getting a worse signal due to added noise
[21:12] <AbortD> it's more of a ubuntu problem ikonia but i will
[21:12] <meganerd> AbortD: I would just stay with the defaults for your driver.
[21:12] <ikonia> AbortD: positioning your antenna is not
[21:12] <ipatrol> !ot | meganerd
[21:12] <ipatrol> Ndis wrapper wont work eithet
[21:12] <AbortD> im sitting next to the AP ikonia :P and havent had a problem in w7
[21:13] <ikonia> AbortD: I appriciate that
[21:13] <conb123> Anyone know of a way of starting pidgin at startup without it bringing up the window?
[21:13] <obiwan_> anybody using macbook with gpm? what settings you put for the synaptics touchpad?
[21:14] <obiwan_> i cant make my right click work in terminal
[21:14] <AbortD> thanks for the help meganerd
[21:14] <meganerd> AbortD: try moving your AP to channel 1.  Do you have another computer that you can transfer files to?  Some drivers have bugs that manifest themselves with speed and performance issues.  Madwifi has undergone some serious changes in the past two years.  Ndiswrapper is also notorius for performance problems
[21:14] <cdsboy> ikonia: sorry, where would one find these device files?
[21:15] <AbortD> im going to have to check which driver i'm using it's the one that came with 9.10
[21:15] <meganerd> AbortD: NP.  I have been working with Linux and wifi since the early "B" days.
[21:15] <AbortD> wow
[21:15] <AbortD> i first got into linux around edgy
[21:15] <guntbert> !ot > AbortD
[21:16] <kubanc> is there any command to test if the sound is playing in terminal ?
[21:16] <AbortD> ok i will stop asking for ubuntu help in the ubuntu help channel thx for reminding me why i stopped coming here guntbert and ikonia
[21:17] <guntbert> AbortD: we like to help - but you keep talking about other issues
[21:17] <meganerd> kubanc: do you want to play something from the command line or do you want to set mixer levels?
[21:17] <Gnea> AbortD: you just need to reformulate the way you ask for help. no one cares about your personal history here, just stick to the facts of the current problem, please.
[21:17] <AbortD> uhm i am wifi
[21:18] <AbortD> and fixing it in ubuntu
[21:18] <AbortD> what do you think im talking about?
[21:18] <Gnea> well if you're fixing it, why are you telling us?
[21:18] <AbortD> riding horses?
[21:18] <AbortD> IM NOT
[21:18] <Prodego> any ops about?
[21:18] <AbortD> he was helping me
[21:18] <meganerd> AbortD: they were just talking about your one post about using linux since edgy
[21:18] <kubanc> meganerd, I have Ubuntu 9.10 live CD and i would like to see if the drivers are installed correctly. So yes, i would like to play sound, let's say from command line
[21:18] <meganerd> AbortD: just ignore them.
[21:18] <AbortD> alright thx mega
[21:19] <mneptok> meganerd: ignoring ops is a bad idea.
[21:19] <AbortD> mneptok, thats off topic please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:19] <Gnea> AbortD: exactly, it didn't seem to have any relevence.
[21:19] <AbortD> this is a help channel mneptok
[21:19] <mneptok> AbortD: uh ...
[21:19] <preposteruss> i just installed my wireless drivers in kubuntu with ndiswrapper, but i still have nothing in iwconfig and the wireless tabs are greyed out in the gui
[21:19] <teage> well it seems to have installed. I can hear the music but my monitor sends a frequency out of range to me. Any Ideas on this?
[21:20] <Gnea> AbortD: do you need help with your wifi?
[21:20] <preposteruss> but ndiswrapper -l shows my card installed, the windows drivers are showing up in the system folder
[21:20] <meganerd> kubanc: try running "alsamixer" from the command line
[21:20] <AbortD> i did but i'm sick of getting told to go to offtopic for the help so i will try to google it thanks anyways
[21:20] <mneptok> AbortD: i caution you about being sarcastic, unhelpful, and deliberately snide.
[21:20] <meganerd> teage: there may be a config file with screen resolution set in it somewhere.
[21:20] <kubanc> meganerd, yes, it's working
[21:21] <Gnea> AbortD: you know, I can see that guntbert did take it out of context. sorry.
[21:21] <AbortD> mneptok you can msg me in offtopic about that
[21:21] <snxs> hello, anyone familiar with the installation of ut2004 on ubuntu 9.10 ? for some reason on this dvd (editor's choice) the linux-installer.sh file is not added.. so any other way i can install this ?
[21:21] <AbortD> sure did dont be sorry
[21:21] <mneptok> AbortD: i'm telling you here.
[21:21] <meganerd> kubanc: I often use mpg123 and mplayer from the command line to play media
[21:22] <teage> thanx meganerd, I am checking it right now, Do you think if all fails i may be able to tweak my nvidia settings?
[21:22] <AbortD> sorry this is a ubuntu help channel not meant for chatting
[21:22] <kubanc> meganerd, i found command speaker-test, but it doesn't play
[21:22] <Myrtti> AbortD: can you please move on?
[21:23] <meganerd> teage: if it happens after you launch the game, chances are there is something the game is doing.  Of course it is still possible that your nvidia driver is the issue
[21:23] <AbortD> i have but when people add in a last comment it's hard
[21:23] <kubanc> meganerd, it's working. speaker-test it's a good command...
[21:23] <sam555> i'm trying to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=850e3c3e3133e52c033771623402322d&p=8982969#post8982969 but I don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf) folder to edit.  I'm using ubuntu 9.10 any ideas?
[21:23] <Guest33509> hi
[21:23] <Gnea> sam555: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is a file, not a folder/directory
[21:24] <meganerd> sam555: use xrandr or the GUI tools
[21:25] <meganerd> sam555: both Gnome and KDE have pretty decent display control apps.  As a fallback look in to using xrandr (most GUIs are just a front end for xrandr anyway).
[21:25] <sam555> meganerd: xrandr, what is this?
[21:25] <meganerd> sam555: the command you run from a terminal to control your video outputs
[21:26] <Gnea> sam555: are you trying to get the projector to be setup as the default video display device on bootup?
[21:26] <sam555> meganerd: ah
[21:26] <meganerd> sam555: I would start with the GUI tools that already there
[21:26] <sam555> Gnea: i just want the laptop to play movies and just buy connecting it to the projector the computer crashes without even choosing anything
[21:27] <Gnea> sam555: when does it crash? when you run the script?
[21:27] <Guest33509> ich habe 2 pc s und einer hat keine Festplatte kann ich ein kompletes ubuntu betribs system über PXE von dem einem mit Festplatte für den anderen ohne Festplatte laden
[21:27] <HorizonXP> i have grub installed on my USB key, and I am able to boot an Ubuntu ISO from it.
[21:27] <HorizonXP> i'm wondering how can I tell grub to boot Windows 7 (installer) from the /windows7/ directory
[21:27] <nibbler> !de | Guest33509
[21:27] <sam555> Gnea: I haven't run the script.  I haven't done anything.  Just a basic 9.10 install and then plug in the projector and it crashes.
[21:27] <zongo_> hi anyone has used wvdial before ?
[21:27] <eremite> HorizonXP, use a live CD instead?
[21:27] <Gnea> sam555: weird. anything in /var/log/ about it?
[21:27] <sam555> then I went to read the link I gave and I couldn't find the .conf file to edit to run the script to make it work
[21:28] <meganerd> zongo_: about 10 years ago.
[21:28] <sam555> Gnea: let me check
[21:28] <HorizonXP> eremite: i'm trying to setup windows for a machine without a CD
[21:28] <HorizonXP> * CDROM
[21:28] <Gnea> sam555: okay
[21:28] <zongo_> is it that old ??
[21:28] <HorizonXP> no, i just didn't bother getting a cdrom for it since it wouldn't be used
[21:28] <zongo_> what would you use to replace it by today ?
[21:28] <eremite> HorizonXP, this is an ubuntu help chanel, perhaps you should seek a windows channel.
[21:29] <HorizonXP> eremite: it's a GRUB question tho
[21:29] <meganerd> zongo_: broadband via ethernet :)  Seriously though, for dial-up I thought it was fine
[21:29] <zongo_> via 3G modem
[21:30] <zongo_> where I live I have nothing else
[21:30] <meganerd> zongo_: ahh, I have not done that before.
[21:30] <djura-san> so is there any workaround for argb thingie in ubuntu 9.10? My window drawing is slower in ubuntu when i turn off composite effects and and when i turn them on they are not showing window decorations.
[21:30] <meganerd> zongo_: have you got the 3g dongle working at all yet?
[21:30] <djura-san> any ideas please?
[21:30] <Maletor> drwxrwxr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 2010-03-17 16:58 pids directory for pid=/var/www/ellisberner.com/shared/tmp/pids/unicorn.pid not writable
[21:30] <zongo_> the issue is that it is asking me for a usrname passwd and tel number which I do not need to connect
[21:30] <Maletor> whoops ^^ ignore
[21:31] <sam555> Gnea: which log would indicate the issue?
[21:31] <wertwertgfhjrer> is there a way to keep broken parts of rar archives together. like i have 4 parts of one rar archive and the 4 th is broken. how can i extract the other 3 without them getting deleted.
[21:32] <Maletor> Why does capistrano think the folder is unwritable? http://pastie.org/874503
[21:33] <Losha> zongo_: have you tried just putting in random strings?
[21:33] <Losha> wertwertgfhjrer: check out the -kb flag to unrar (man unrar)
[21:34] <meganerd> Maletor: the user that is trying to write needs to be in the www-data group.
[21:34] <Gnea> sam555: it depends how long ago the crash occurred. if within the past few hours, likely in syslog and/or Xorg.0.log
[21:34] <zongo_> i am trying that now, will be off and back if it does not work cheers
[21:34] <Maletor> meganerd: so in capistrano i need to set :user, www-data:www-data ?
[21:35] <Gnea> sam555: and yes, they are large files, so you will need to scroll it back until you find the right time
[21:35] <meganerd> Maletor: or add whatever user capistrano runs as to the www-data group
[21:35] <sam555> Gnea: that's what I thought.  i ran xorg.0 log and I'll have to paste bin it to you
[21:35] <Maletor> meganerd: cap runs as the user www-data
[21:35] <Gnea> sam555: alright. do you have pastebinit installed?
[21:35] <Maletor> which is in the www-data group
[21:36] <coz_> hey guys...jsut noticed that my blinking cursor thingy got real wide for some reason   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/cursorblink.png  any settings for this???
[21:36] <coz_> its not just in xchat either it is also in terminal etc etc etc
[21:36] <Gnea> coz_: did you hit the insert key?
[21:36] <Alphos> coz_ : insert ? :D
[21:36] <coz_> Gnea, mmm let me check
[21:36] <Alphos> Gnea ;)
[21:36] <Gnea> :)
[21:36] <meganerd> Maletor: can you su to www-data and try writing a file to that directory?
[21:36] <coz_> Alphos,  and Gnea   very cool I did indeed lol
[21:36] <Alphos> heh
[21:36] <Gnea> coz_: cheers :)
[21:37] <sam555> Gnea: I'll just go here !pastebin
[21:37] <coz_> thanks guys  I had never come across this before...glad you 2 have already :)
[21:37] <sam555>  need to log and come back
[21:37] <Gnea> sam555: cool
[21:37] <hogfoot> hi.  i need to rsync over ssh with a key pair using the www-data user...but since it's a psudo user there is no shell to add a keypair to.  any ideas?  is it safe to make www-data a full account with home dir?
[21:37] <coz_> Gnea,  and Alphos   but still wide in the terminal ??/
[21:38] <eremite> Is there any way to install the xubuntu weather applet and relpace the ubuntu one in gnome?  The xubuntu one is much better and gives a 5 day forecast, and also has my smaller city in its listings as opposed to the closest big city...?
[21:38] <Maletor> meganerd: success
[21:38] <Maletor> http://pastie.org/874513
[21:38] <sash_> hogfoot: use a user who is in the www-data-group and has access to /var/www
[21:38] <sash_> then chown
[21:38] <sam555> !pastebin
[21:38] <Alphos> i'm having a bit of a problem with gedit : i'd like to use UTF-8 when saving a file, it seems my file is written as 7bit ASCII ; the file is a php script that's supposed to work with utf8 strings, and it of course breaks with non-ascii chars
[21:39] <sam555> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396946/
[21:39] <hogfoot> sash_, the process if ran from a web interface that is why I need to use www-data user (or whatever I have apache set to run as)
[21:39] <Alphos> is there any reason why gedit would use 7bit ASCII instead of utf8 ?
[21:39] <meganerd> hogfoot: rsync --rsh="ssh -i /path/to/key" localdir remoteuser@remotehost:remotedir
[21:39] <zongo__> working nice now
[21:39] <zongo__> random string into wdial
[21:39] <Losha> zongo__: excellent...
[21:39] <meganerd> zongo__: cool.
[21:40] <Alphos> (pebkac shouldn't be involved, i didn't touch anything related to char encoding since i installed ubuntu a month ago, and didn't during the install)
[21:40] <sash_> hogfoot: www-data is a user and a group. so make /var/www/ readable for both (user and group) and scp the file as a user who is in this group
[21:40] <od3n> can someone point me in the right direction
[21:40] <rsk> od3n ->
[21:40] <adorablepuppy> I need to clone a HFS+ partition, for backup purposes.
[21:40] <rsk> sorry.
[21:40] <zongo__> I have 9600 baud, do you guys think I could increase that without any problem ?
[21:40] <invisibleman> hi
[21:40] <od3n> I am having issues trying to install Thunderbird
[21:40] <hogfoot> meganerd, rsync will not allow you to set perms other than 600 on the key pair file
[21:40] <rsk> od3n what's the error
[21:40] <invisibleman> Hey anyone know how to use ubuntu with xbox live?
[21:40] <abstrakt> Alphos, vim ftw!
[21:40] <Alphos> i'm not used to vim :x
[21:41] <Alphos> i still got loads of windoz habits ^^'
[21:41] <sam555> Gnea: I have to step away, but brb in 15 min
[21:41] <coz_> Alphos, it should be set to utf8 default let me check
[21:41] <Gnea> coz_: each application may remember the insert setting independently
[21:41] <zongo__> without impairing the connection of my usb modem --> i know I should not  be posting this here but in case someone knows
[21:41] <Gnea> sam555: ok, still reading
[21:41] <Alphos> coz_ all i read points to that
[21:41] <meganerd> hogfoot: put the keyfile somewhere, and give www-data permission to read it.  Do not put in a directory that you providing http access to
[21:41] <Losha> zongo__: Try it. If you start getting dropped characters, go back to 9600...
[21:41] <terry_> od3n: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[21:41] <abstrakt> Alphos, i use vim on windows... what of it? vimming has little to do with windows
[21:41] <od3n> well I downloaded it frrom the site as a tar.bz2
[21:41] <coz_> Gnea,  ok   Alphos  ok
[21:41] <Alphos> but enca doesn't seem to agree, and gedit --list-encodings does not display UTF8
[21:41] <massa-pash>  /nickserv register Rfkfvfhb<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:41] <od3n> I am trying to get thunderbird 3
[21:41] <hogfoot> meganerd, oooh that sounds like it would do the job.  thanks.
[21:42] <Alphos> UTF7 and UTF16 are listed though
[21:42] <terry_> od3n: What version do you have now?
[21:42] <wertwertgfhjrer> Losha, thx. it seems to work
[21:42] <abstrakt> Alphos, here ya go http://www.viemu.com/vi-vim-cheat-sheet.gif :)
[21:42] <meganerd> Maletor: hmm, I am not sure what the problem is.  capistrano is on my todo list, but I have not messed with it much yet
[21:42] <theuros> hi to all .. is there a difference between kubuntu or ubuntu with KDE installed ? .. i installes KDE and i'm trying to run kcontrol .. i read that i need to star "run command" and then start kcontrol .. but i can't find this run "command" ...any help ?
[21:42] <xangua> massa-pash: /msg nickserv register :S ........................................
[21:42] <delta3> hello
[21:42] <meganerd> hogfoot: NP
[21:42] <CalmvsKhaos> think of VIM as the newest latest greatest thing to hit the market, and it will be easier to use, dont think of it as something that is nearing 30 years old, it's psychological :)
[21:42] <Losha> wertwertgfhjrer: very good...
[21:42] <adorablepuppy> My OS X 10.3.9 became unbootable, but I can mount it through linux for some reason. I am wondering if it is possible to back the whole partition up to a separate drive while I install OS X 10.5.
[21:42] <abstrakt> Alphos, done deal... and if you want more where that came from i'll send you my vim config
[21:42] <meganerd> theuros: Alt-F2
[21:42] <od3n> 2.0.2 I think
[21:43] <Alphos> abstrakt : that's the very reason why i prefer gedit :D
[21:43] <zongo__> on another matter, I have created a partition in my external drive with gparted. The partition is formatted in ext3 but it remains in read-only
[21:43] <zongo__> anyone has any idea why ?
[21:43] <abstrakt> CalmvsKhaos, there's a major difference between something that is 30 years old that hasn't been updated in 30 years and something that's 30 years old that's been updated within the past few months
[21:43] <CalmvsKhaos> abstrakt, uhhh ok
[21:43] <meganerd> zongo__: it is probably owned by root, you likely just need to change the file permissions
[21:43] <zongo__> I have to use gksudo nautilus in order to move files in and out
[21:43] <llutz> theuros: kcontrol? isn't it "systemsettings" now?
[21:43] <Losha> adorablepuppy: if you can mount it and read the files, you can make a backup using tar or cp as long as you have space somewhere...
[21:43] <theuros> yea .. but alt+f2 gives me a input line and 2 buttons .. settings and sys activity .. if i insert kcontrol and hit enter nothing happens
[21:44] <zongo__> well its mounted in /media
[21:44] <meganerd> zongo__: "sudo chown youruser /path/to/mounted/partition
[21:44] <terry_> od3n: Have you downloaded a tarball?
[21:44] <theuros> i don't know=
[21:44] <od3n> yeah
[21:44] <zongo__> did that as well
[21:44] <zongo__> but to no avail
[21:44] <od3n> but I dont know what to do with that
[21:44] <ardchoille> theuros: iirc, kcontrol was done away with
[21:44] <meganerd> theuros: do you have any sort of menu running?
[21:44] <rsk> od3n use the package manager instead? sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[21:44] <caseys> how do i set up postfix?
[21:44] <theuros> what you mean ? menu running ?
[21:44] <zongo__> I did not know that creating a partition would mean that root owns it
[21:45] <od3n> that only installs the version I have
[21:45] <zongo__> which is not the case as if i check with ls it gives me all the rights
[21:45] <meganerd> theuros: like a K menu to click on?  Also, "systemsettings" is what you need to run these days
[21:45] <theuros> can someone point me in the right direction .. how to define shortcuts for desktop switching ?
[21:45] <theuros> yes i have it
[21:45] <mneptok> zongo__: what is the mount point in /media, what is your username, and what is the type of filesystem?
[21:45] <llutz> caseys: http://workaround.org/ispmail/lenny    +  /j #postfix
[21:45] <ardchoille> theuros: in gnome it should be ctrl+alt+left/right arrow
[21:46] <terry_> od3n: did you download thunderbird-3.0.3.tar.bz2 ?
[21:46] <od3n> yeah
[21:46] <Losha> caseys: the answer to that is so complex people have written entire *books* on the subject...
[21:46] <meganerd> zongo__: test with sudo.  "sudo cp somefile /media/yourmountpoint"
[21:46] <theuros> in gnome i used my own shortcuts to go left or to right desktop .. i want do the same here in kde
[21:46] <CalmvsKhaos> abstrakt, and just so you know VIM 7.2 was updated in 2008 , thats hardly 30 years.
[21:46] <terry_> od3n: cd Downloads ; tar jxvf thunderbird-3.0.3.tar.bz2
[21:46] <madjoe> how to setup SMTP server on Apache/php?
[21:46] <ardchoille> theuros: you need to ask kde questions in #kubuntu
[21:47] <The_Tick> is there a network install of ubuntu?
[21:47] <theuros> aha ..  so wrong channel .. thanx
[21:47] <meganerd> theuros: there is probably a way to do it from the KDE control panel.  Load systemsettings, failing that there is a kde specific forum
[21:47] <mkquist> theuros: compizconfig settings manager
[21:47] <od3n> I have it unpacked
[21:47] <Losha> madjoe: what do you need it to do exactly?
[21:47] <theuros> isn't compizconfig for gnome only?
[21:47] <mkquist> theuros: i use alt/arrow
[21:48] <zongo__> that does work
[21:48] <madjoe> Losha: to send mail over my php scripts
[21:48] <mkquist> oh ur in ubuntu soi just assumed.. sry
[21:48] <terry_> sudo mv thunderbird/  /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.3
[21:48] <zongo__> since it gives me the right of root
[21:48] <zongo__> but my user is admin
[21:48] <zongo__> does not make sense to me
[21:48] <meganerd> zongo__: so, it would seem that your user does not have permission to write to the folder
[21:48] <Losha> madjoe: outgoing mail only, from your server machine? Or something else?
[21:49] <madjoe> Losha: there's /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini, but there's a comment [mail function] ; For Win32 only.
[21:49] <terry_> od3n: ... got that part done?
[21:49] <abstrakt> CalmvsKhaos, umm... yeah... you're basically providing favorable evidence for my argument? apparently we both enjoy vim...
[21:49] <madjoe> Losha: from my Ubuntu LAMP config
[21:49] <zongo__> but would this command line chown user /xxx/xxx give me the right ?
[21:49] <od3n> what part the unpacking?
[21:49] <mneptok> zongo__: what is the mount point in /media, what is your username, and what is the type of filesystem?
[21:49] <meganerd> zongo__: chmod or chown, whichever is more appropriate (both will work, which you use depends on how you use the drive)
[21:49] <meganerd> mneptok: there is no need for you to know his username
[21:50] <mneptok> meganerd: for chown to work there is
[21:50] <Losha> madjoe: sorry dunno, try #php ?
[21:50] <terry_> od3n: See my private message
[21:50] <madjoe> Losha: ok, thanks
[21:50] <zongo__> the mount point is /media/films the file system is ext3 the user name is zongo
[21:50] <meganerd> mneptok: no one in this channel actually needs to know his username.
[21:50] <abstrakt> madjoe, nix php uses sendmail
[21:50] <CalmvsKhaos> abstrakt, oops sorry I must have read you wrong :)
[21:50] <terry_> od3n: sudo mv thunderbird/  /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.3
[21:50] <Losha> zongo__: please show the output from ls -ld /media/films
[21:50] <zongo__> I have used chmod and chown a couple of times of already and it makes no difference
[21:51] <madjoe> abstrakt: ok, I'll check sendmail
[21:51] <mneptok> zongo__: sudo chown -R zongo:zongo /media/films && sudo chown -R root:root /media/films/lost+found
[21:51] <abstrakt> madjoe, which sendmail
[21:51] <abstrakt> madjoe, that'll tell you the sendmail path, put that into php.ini
[21:51] <zongo__> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2010-03-17 21:47 /media/films
[21:51] <sp0spo> hi
[21:51] <u350> hi, everybody
[21:51] <abstrakt> madjoe, that won't guarantee that PHP will send mail over the actual factual interweb tho
[21:51] <meganerd> zongo__: sudo will need to be used since your user cannot change anything without owning the files or folders
[21:51] <klimraamkosie> Hey :)  I need some samba help (file server for windows clients, each client gets a share etc)
[21:51] <meganerd> zongo__: so sudo chown myuser /media/films
[21:51] <mneptok> zongo__: use that command i just gave you
[21:51] <madjoe> abstrakt: I'm blind.. just 3 lines bellow is a parameter for Unix/Linux... crap..
[21:52] <caseys> how do i set up postfix with the smtp host?
[21:52] <meganerd> zongo__: or "sudo chmod u+rwx /media/films
[21:52] <sp0spo> how come on my laptop after about 10 minutes, the xwindows reloads/reboots and then i lose what I was working on.... it is like ubuntu laods twice for my laptop
[21:52] <Losha> zongo__: that directory is writable only by root. Do: sudo chmod ugo+rwx /media/films
[21:52] <Stargaze> caseys, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[21:52] <taurus_> join undernet
[21:52] <nmvictor> i compiled and installed moc(Music On Console) and i get this message when i fire it up, FATAL ERROR: No decoder plugins have been installed.
[21:53] <taurus_> #phpfrance
[21:53] <Stargaze> caseys, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[21:53] <Losha> madjoe: are you sure you need postfix. If you're just sending outgoing email via your ISP, there are far simpler solutions e.g. ssmtp
[21:53] <zongo__> makes no difference
[21:53] <sp0spo> anyone know why my laptop reloads xwindows after about 10 minutes and i lose what i was writting on/have to type it again?
[21:54] <zongo__> root still does own it
[21:54] <madjoe> Losha: ssmtp? can I install it from Synaptic?
[21:54] <llutz> zongo__: are you sure it is ext3?
[21:54] <zongo__> positive
[21:54] <ardchoille> zongo__: are you following what mneptok is telling you?
[21:54] <meganerd> zongo__: sudo chown youruser /media/films -R
[21:54] <zongo__> yes i am
[21:54] <llutz> zongo__: "mount | grep films"
[21:54] <madjoe> Losha: I just need to allow my Drupal installation to send emails
[21:54] <mneptok> zongo__: sudo chown -R zongo:zongo /media/films && sudo chown -R root:root /media/films/lost+found
[21:54] <nom_nom> I'm having trouble figuring out how to network with a windows computer
[21:54] <Losha> madjoe: absolutely. And the config is only 6 lines....
[21:55] <Stargaze> nom_nom, do you mean samba?
[21:55] <nom_nom> yeah
[21:55] <Stargaze> nom_nom, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[21:55] <zongo__> mneptok: you are the winner, now I have been added to the ownership of that partition
[21:55]  * mneptok bows
[21:55] <zongo__> I suppose with the -R switch that did it
[21:56] <zongo__> I did not think about that one
[21:56] <ardchoille> mneptok: :)
[21:56] <zongo__> since the partition was brand new and nothing in it
[21:56] <meganerd> zongo__: -R = recursive
[21:56] <zongo__> yes, but what would I have to be recursive when the partition is empty
[21:56] <zongo__> I can now create files and whatnote
[21:57] <sam555> Gnea: back.  Was it the right log info?
[21:57] <Losha> zongo__: the important part was the chown zongo:zongo, not the -R bit....
[21:57] <mneptok> zongo__: you were just changing the perms of the mount point itself. not the filesystem inside it.
[21:57] <sam555> Gnea:  I'm going to move my laptop to a different net.  Give me 5 and i'll brb
[21:57] <edd> hi
[21:57] <zongo__> so the -R is recursive only on the mount point /media/films ?
[21:58] <Gnea> sam555: think we're gonna need a bit more. ok
[21:58] <edd> i have karmic, and I removed gnome-network manager and installed Wicd, but Wicd doesn't start how can I get back gnome-network-manager?
[21:58] <theuros> messing with compizConfig in KDE effects setting in GNOME ?
[21:58] <zongo__> but then what is the reason for -R to work and if no -R it does not work ? sorry for being a pain,  I am trying to understand
[21:58] <Stargaze> edd, alt-f2 nmapplet
[21:58] <Stargaze> edd, alt-f2 nm-applet
[21:58] <sp0spo> Why does xwindows reload after about 10 minutes on my laptop? WTF
[21:59] <zongo__> being a newbie and all, sometimes i find it uneasy
[21:59] <Lasivian> Any suggestions on a cad program with Windows and Linux versions so I don't have to learn two interfaces and convert files?
[21:59] <Losha> edd: first person I've seen saying that wicd doesn't work for them...
[21:59] <ardchoille> zongo__: -R means recursive (perform the work on all files under the parent)
[21:59] <Stargaze> zongo__, we all we were newbies, once :)
[21:59] <edd> losha; i know weird
[21:59] <sp0spo> what is the laptop help channel?
[21:59]  * gnomefreak thought it was -r
[21:59] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: for chown and chmod
[22:00] <nom_nom> It says there's supposed to be a network icon in the places menu, but there's not
[22:00] <Andorin> How do I stop Ubuntu from correcting the system clock for Daylight Savings Time?
 edd, alt-f2 nm-applet: doesn't work either
[22:00] <meganerd> zongo__: you never really get to not be a newbie.  There is always something that you don't know about :)
[22:00] <EricBlade-mobile> hey all.. i'm getting a Seg fault during processing on my most recent apt-get upgrade
[22:00] <Stargaze> edd, and with sudo?
[22:00] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: right. sorry came in at end of topic
[22:00] <EricBlade-mobile> setting up libc6 2.9-4ubuntu6. .. ldconfig deferred processing now atking place .. Seg fault .. exit status 139 .. any suggestions for how to proceed?
[22:01] <zongo__> cheers guys :) but the -R does not do it just yet :)  I do understand that it is recursive but for me it needs to have directories and files in it in order to be recursive
[22:01] <edd> Stargaze: it's not installed :S
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:01] <nmvictor> i compiled and installed moc(Music On Console) and i get this message when i fire it up, FATAL ERROR: No decoder plugins have been installed.any suggestions
[22:01] <edd> it tells me to install it as a package but I dont' have internet access
[22:01] <zongo__> well, will read more docs on it, but real glad that this is sorted out
[22:01] <Stargaze> edd, type sudo apt-get install nm-applet
[22:01] <zongo__> cheers guys :)
[22:01] <jrib> nmvictor: why aren't you just using the package in the repositories?
[22:01] <edd> Stargaze: I don't have internet :P
[22:02] <edd> can i download it somewhere as deb or smth?
[22:02] <squelos> hi
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> edd: package.ubuntu.com
[22:02] <mgolisch> id use apt-get install -d
[22:02] <Stargaze> edd, can you not install it from the CD?
[22:02] <Losha> zongo__: read about file permissions here: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg24t3.htm
[22:02] <mgolisch> on a machine with internet
[22:03] <mgolisch> and copy the stuff from the archive directory, that way you will get all the deps too
[22:03] <squelos> im having trouble using keys to secure my SSH :/ it works ok with just the password auth, but when i try to configure keys, it messes up, and keeps saying : permission denied (publickey)
[22:03] <llutz> zongo__: if your partition is empty, there is no difference in "chown -R" and "chown"
[22:03] <squelos> i do have my public key in the good file :/
[22:03] <nmvictor> jrib: i would if i could but i cant for some reasons, i just want to work with my own compiled version for one, opting for repos is quite lazy and refusin to think, my opinion
[22:03] <edd> I dont' have the cd
[22:04] <sp0spo> what is the channel for ubuntu on laptops?
[22:04] <jrib> nmvictor: erm, using repository packages has several advantages...
[22:04] <TimothyA> is the apache2 package in the repository of ubuntu capable of using multiple cores?
[22:04] <Losha> squelos: use ssh -v to get more verbose debugging, see if it helps...
[22:04] <datadigger> squelos: Do the .ssh directory and the authorized_keys file have the correct permissions?
[22:04] <nom_nom> It says there's supposed to be a network icon in the places menu, but there's not
[22:04] <nom_nom> is there another way to network, or am I stuck?
[22:04] <zongo__> cheers guys
[22:05] <mgolisch> squelos: so your publickey is in your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 for the user youi login on the server?
[22:05] <nmvictor> jrib: the updates
[22:05] <zongo__> just for my own information: would any partition that i create be owned by root ?
[22:06] <jrib> nmvictor: that's one, yes
[22:06] <llutz> zongo__: yes
[22:06] <zongo__> or can i create a partition that would directly owned by my username ?
[22:06] <squelos> mgolisch : yes. Datadigger : im looking into that :).
[22:06] <jrib> zongo__: you can change the permissions to whatever you want
[22:06] <nmvictor> jrib: what else?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> zongo__: technically yes, then you can mount it with certain options to give uer access
[22:06] <Losha> nmvictor: the dependencies, for another. Sounds like you're missing some codecs...
[22:06] <mgolisch> no
[22:07] <llutz> ActionParsnip: not with unix-fs
[22:07] <mgolisch> only ntfs and vfat support the uid/gid mount options
[22:07] <jrib> nmvictor: it's easier, it allows for easier debugging, it's been tested to work with the other versions of software in the repositories
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> llutz: but only root can mount it (or give others access)
[22:07] <zongo__> ok, i suppose then it is best to use command-line to have more flexibility
[22:07] <llutz> ActionParsnip: different thing
[22:07] <Losha> zongo__: start here to read about file permissions: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg24t3.htm
[22:07] <zongo__> instead of usinng software all the time
[22:07] <jrib> nmvictor: automatic dependencies and suggests installed...
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> llutz: kinda same but kinda different
[22:08] <llutz> ActionParsnip: root can mount unix-fs but cannot give you access without using chown/chmod
[22:08] <zongo__> yep will do so Losha -> it's been bookmarked. will read it tonight: cheers
[22:08] <Vigo> Is there a widget/package that allows me store a few passwds on a USB and use it at Boot and other stuff?
[22:08] <jove> Hi All: does anyone know Ubuntu has a tool to optimize the disk ?
[22:08] <llutz> ActionParsnip: with vfat/ntfs root can mount -o uid=/gid=   to give you access
[22:08] <mgolisch> jove: optimize the disk?
[22:08] <EricBlade-mobile> anyone? how to fix dpkg after getting seg fualt on ldconfig ?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> jove: hdparm or sdparm
[22:09] <sie> How do I make a user invisible in gnome's login prompt user menu, and how do I edit kinds of sessions for gnome login manager?
[22:09] <nmvictor> Losha: whats missing?
[22:09] <squelos> http://pastebin.com/B5VBmUsU => are the permissions wrong on my client ?
[22:09] <jrib> EricBlade-mobile: can you ldconfig successfully now?
[22:09] <datadigger> mgolisch: I thiink jove means: defragment a filesystem