[00:11] <bruenig> longtime no see!
[00:12] <Jordan_U> bruenig: Hi. Could you explain why you said that ekrjnfedfkj was a spambot?
[00:19] <bruenig> when I /me'd, got weird ctcp stuff from him
[00:19] <bruenig> CTCP ERRMSG reply from ekrjnfedfkj: ACTION is a bash expert :unknown CTCP
[00:19] <bruenig> only a bot would do something like that
[00:19] <bkerensa> so he set custom CTCP replies
[00:19] <bkerensa> I have the same
[00:19] <bruenig> spammer
[00:20] <bruenig> messing up my status tab
[00:21] <Jordan_U> I wouldn't say that that makes them a spammer, but it does mean that they're using noisy scripts in #ubuntu, which is against our policies. If I see them again I'll talk to them about it.
[00:24] <bruenig> Jordan_U is a srs op
[00:28] <Jordan_U> bruenig: Thank you for reporting this, and in the future please report such things here (and avoid calling someone a "spammer" if it's not clear that's the case, as it can be seen as offensive and can thus unneccisarily escalate things).
[00:29] <bruenig> srs op is srs
[00:29] <bkerensa> bruenig: this channel is not for idling unless you have any other questions can you please part the channel?
[00:32] <bkerensa> Jordan_U: I am watching our backtrack guy
[00:32] <bkerensa> ;)
[00:34] <bruenig> can I idle in #ubuntu?
[00:35] <Jordan_U> bruenig: Yes.
[00:35] <bruenig> AHHHH YEAH
[00:35] <bruenig> idling, here I come
[00:35] <bkerensa> >.< oh I forget he was there
[01:50] <bazhang> nice floodbots factoid
[02:26] <Corey> *sigh*
[03:59] <twb> I am banned from #ubuntu-server.  I do not know why.  What can I do about this?
[04:00] <bazhang> twb, let me check
[04:01] <bazhang> twb, was this related to repeated swearing/foul language?
[04:01] <twb> Well I have been told off a couple of times in the last month or so
[04:01] <twb> I wasn't aware of someone saying "stop now or I'll ban you"
[04:02] <bazhang> uh, so you've sworn repeatedly even after being asked not to?
[04:02] <twb> Well I'm australian, sometimes it slips out if I'm distracted
[04:02] <twb> But not twice on the same day or anything
[04:02] <bazhang> so is that a yes?
[04:02] <twb> I suppose technically, yes
[04:03] <bazhang> being from Australia is not a defence
[04:03] <bazhang> !language
[04:03] <twb> Understood.
[04:04] <bazhang> thats the standard for all ubuntu namespace channels
[04:04] <bazhang> ok
[04:04] <bazhang> I've not got access to -server, perhaps someone else here has
[04:06] <twb> It's not like I will go "you stupid c*cksucking mofos why don't you all die", it's more like I'll say "oracle's decision to drop osol was a shitty move" and someone will remind me that shitty is not allowed and I will say "oops, sorry"
[04:06] <bazhang> twb yes, but using stars is the exact same as spelling it all out. there is no need to typ e it at all.
[04:07] <twb> I'm saying: I *didn't* say that.
[04:07] <bazhang> read what you have to say before hitting enter. it's that simple
[04:07] <twb> It was "shitty" and "STFU" that was objected to AFAIK
[04:07] <twb> On different weeks
[04:07] <bazhang> those are never welcome
[04:08] <twb> Understood.
[04:48] <bazhang> twb, no one with access appears to be around now, would you mind returning later to get this fully resolved
[04:50] <Corey> Hi.
[04:51] <twb> bazhang: no worries
[04:51] <twb> If someone reads scrollback, they can feel free to unban me even if I'm not in #ubuntu-ops at the time :-)
[04:53] <bazhang> twb, you'll need to return here first
[04:54] <twb> OK
[04:56] <bazhang> twb, so come back in a few hours, thanks
[05:01] <bazhang> !idle | twb
[05:15] <Corey> I'm on the -server list.
[05:15] <Corey> Thoughts?
[05:52] <chu> So, twb is a regular in #emacs, I'm very familiar with him.
[05:52] <chu> He's quite open with his language, but he certainly knows a lot.
[05:54] <chu> I dare say he'll probably continue with the language, but perhaps not intentionally (it may just slip, but I feel it probably will).
[07:01] <Tm_T> good morning
[07:04] <chu> Hello
[13:54] <vibhav> Shouldnt !ops in #ubuntu-offtopic contain chu name then?
[13:55] <IdleOne> chu can add it if he wants
[13:55] <vibhav> fine
[14:34] <k1l_> bye bye
 wasn't he banned from #u? Of was it an other channel
[15:08] <knome> at least #x
[15:09] <oCean> right, that is what I remember
[15:09] <DJones> I thought he'd been asked to change his nick in the past
[15:09] <DJones> Also known as defrostedwang
[15:17] <ikonia> how tedious
[15:18] <bazhang> now trolling #debian
[18:18] <bazhang> enough nonsense
 hey cygwin helps to run lienecks software in windows its not ny help to me
[18:20] <bazhang> he just can't quit
[18:21] <IdleOne> where was that?
[18:21] <IdleOne> nm I see it now
[18:21] <bazhang> where we asked him to go , right before he got removed
[18:25] <bazhang> Shano, how can we help you
[18:25] <Shano> hi wondering why i was banned from #ubuntu :)
[18:25] <bazhang> Shano, continuing nonsense when asked repeatedly to stop
[18:26] <Shano> I dont think i continued, i said all of 2 lines of chat :/
[18:26] <bazhang> Shano, you did continue, after repeated warnings.
[18:27] <Shano> Okay I didn't realize it was nonsense, my bad
[18:27] <oCean> Shano: you picked the word "windoze" from the scrollback.  We see no reason to mispell the name of another OS in an effort to denigrate it
[18:30] <IdleOne> it makes you look like the bad guy
[18:31] <Shano> well sorry to use the word, wont happen again. hopefully i can be unbanned from #ubuntu
[18:31] <bazhang> Shano, not at this time, no
[18:31] <IdleOne> that will be up to the op who set the ban.
[18:32] <Shano> Well I dont know who set the ban
[18:32] <Shano> the log doesn't say
[18:32] <bazhang> I did
[18:32] <Shano> mkay
[18:32] <bazhang> come back in 24 hours and we can discuss
[18:33] <Shano> see you in 24hrs
[18:34] <bazhang> ok
[18:55] <bazhang> Shano, please dont idle here, please come back in 24 hrs
[19:40] <bazhang> * [toogfo] (~mylogin@<IP_ADDRESS>):  Java IRC Hacks Bot


[07:17] <dholbach> good morning
[12:07] <Rhonda> rotfl @ wesnoth-editor "screenshot" …
[12:07] <Laney> haha
[12:08] <Rhonda> At least someone got a sense of humor. :)
[12:08]  * Rhonda . o O ( I still consider it not really an appropriate screenshot … )
[12:14] <nigelb> Rhonda: where?
[12:14] <Rhonda> nigelb, http://screenshots.debian.net/package/wesnoth-editor
[12:14] <nigelb> oh. lol.
[12:14] <Rhonda> (or in software center I would assume)
[12:15] <nigelb> Heh, I see it in packages.debian.org :)
[12:15] <Rhonda> Or packages.ubuntu.com :)
[13:05] <Laney> wrote my first executable debhelper file
[13:05] <Laney> not sure if it's great or awful
[13:11] <Rhonda> I read awful as helpful.  You make it sound so pessimistic instead. :)
[13:12]  * tumbleweed crosses himself and steps away from Laney
[13:30] <xnox> Laney: congrats =) i'm scared of executable debhelper files a little..... it's on a path to non-deterministic builds.
[14:16] <Laney> xnox: well, it's nothing you couldn't do in rules anyway if you wanted to
[14:16] <Laney> if I didn't have this I would have written basically the same code in there
[14:17] <xnox> true
[14:18] <Laney> well, or enumerated the list of files :P
[14:19] <Laney> might be /slight/ overkill ;-)
[14:19] <Laney> that brownie was over too fast :(
[14:25] <xnox> =))))
[14:25]  * xnox wants brownie now
[16:58] <Rhonda> erm, what the …  receiving mail that someone gets errors when they want to look up jaunty packages?
[16:58]  * Rhonda nibbles on Laney.  Baaad idea for convincing me to put my mail address there.  %-/
[16:58] <Laney> haha
[17:00] <Laney> Take it away and redirect people to this channel instead?
[17:00] <Laney> or the motu ML or so
[19:51] <t4nk216> Hi, I have a question about packaging. I am trying to create packages with tracks and trains for openBVE (train simulator) (see https://launchpad.net/~kaero-ms/+archive/openbverat). These should be only data packages, no binary. For some trains, manuals in pdf should be attached. Where should be such pdf installed, so user can find them?
[19:52] <jtaylor> usr/share/doc/<package-name> is the normal location
[19:52] <t4nk216> Thanks for any help
[19:52] <t4nk216> jtaylor: so the format pdf is not a problem?
[19:53] <jtaylor> there is some doc-base registration to register them somewhere
[19:53] <jtaylor> t4nk216: if the source is available no
[19:53] <jtaylor> the pdf must be built from source
[19:53] <t4nk216> the source of pdf is unavailable
[19:54] <jtaylor> thats a problem
[19:59] <t4nk216> ok, i found something how to make doc-base registration, I will try to dig more. thanks.
[22:34] <blackz> micahg, jtaylor: xchat patch (bug #1090842) doesn't work for me on amd64. does it for you?
[22:36] <jtaylor> it did when I wrote it
[22:36] <jtaylor> lets try again
[22:40] <jtaylor> hm no it does not work
[22:40] <jtaylor> I guess the package does not autoreconf
[22:40] <jtaylor> the patch is based for upstream, so it patches configure.in
[22:42] <blackz> jtaylor: will you modify it? or do you want me to do it?
[22:42] <jtaylor> you can do it if you like
[22:43] <blackz> jtaylor: ok


[03:26] <jose> email sent out to editors
[15:56] <nhandler> New version of publish-uwn is causing some intermitant problems for me. I'll hold off uploading it another week so I can sort them out
[19:17] <pleia2> going to do some editorial review and then see about releasing soon
[19:29] <PaulW2U> pleia2: april wang's posts still need attention - still on my todo list :)
[19:29] <pleia2> PaulW2U: which one? I can see about doing it
[19:29] <pleia2> I saved with changes to the 2nd one
[19:30] <PaulW2U> as far as I can remember both
[19:31] <pleia2> hah, ok, I'll take a closer look at them
[19:39] <pleia2> fixed up both
[19:39] <pleia2> PaulW2U: any other concerns before publishing?
[19:40] <PaulW2U> Don't think so - back to watching tv :)
[19:41] <pleia2> thanks, enjoy :)
[19:44] <PaulW2U> Has Unit193 done his link check?
[19:44] <pleia2> has not
[19:45] <pleia2> may have to publish later afterall, the husband is now ready to continue our goings on here
[19:45]  * ahoneybun is in this release :)
[19:45] <pleia2> Unit193: link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue432
[19:45] <pleia2> I'll be back in a bunch of hours and will release then
[19:50] <Unit193> Everything seems to be pointing correctly.


[21:47] <NB2000> And its cross platform. :)
[21:47] <ccharles`> Frailmage: be aware that FTP is completely unencrypted--it sends the user name and password in cleartext over the network.
[21:47] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: i'd use vsftpd for the server, and filezilla for any windows clients
[21:47] <Flannel> Frailmage: You might prefer SCP, which is sort of like FTP, but uses SSH instead.  There's literally no configuration needed serverside, and you can connect through a variety of programs.  Filezilla on windows, etc.
[21:48] <jpatrick> DaRe_DeViL: I use /set username whatIWant
[21:48] <nick__> Hey, I'm trying to install KDE4 and I keep getting this error message from apt-get "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".
[21:48] <nick__> Does anyone know how to fix that?
[21:48] <DaRe_DeViL> i see..ok thanks for help patrick
[21:48] <ccharles`> Frailmage: Flannel's suggestion to use SCP is better from a security standpoint, as well.
[21:48] <stevendemorez> I'm having an issue concerning my webcam and the program puredata
[21:48] <patoz> \list
[21:48] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: flannel brings up a good point, although vsftpd is fairly simple to configure to use ssl for encrypted transfers
[21:49] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: but nowhere near as easy as scp
[21:49] <Frailmage> It is not security I am worried about at the moment, it is just some music files, and various bits of info I need in a hurry.
[21:49] <stevendemorez> my webcam is v4l2 and I have eeexubuntu installed but I see no info concerning v4l2 listed in my programs yet any v4l2 compatible program picks up my webcam without an issue
[21:49] <Frailmage> mDemocritus: what does SCP stand for?
[21:49] <Seveas> Frailmage, Secure CoPy
[21:49] <sageb1> :o lotsa ppl
[21:50] <sageb1> but, who is actually "there"?
[21:50] <bsdnewb07> in ubuntu how can i list free space on a partition
[21:50] <jpatrick> sageb1: welcome to Hell, erm, I mean #ubuntu
[21:50] <DaRe_DeViL> lol
[21:50] <ccharles`> sageb1: lots of us :-)
[21:50] <jpatrick> see there's the Devil
[21:50] <DaRe_DeViL> i couldnt type even whois command
[21:50] <b_ecca> qtparted
[21:50] <ccharles`> sageb1: do you have a question?
[21:50] <Frailmage> Is there any share ware I can use for FTP hosting?
[21:50] <Frailmage> free ware*
[21:50] <DaRe_DeViL> i typed /nickserv whois dare_devil n nothing appears
[21:50] <Flannel> bsdnewb07: there's lots of ways.  You can look in the disk properties, `df -h`, many more.
[21:51] <jpatrick> DaRe_DeViL: /whois $nick
[21:51] <DaRe_DeViL> ty bro
[21:51] <Seveas> Frailmage, ubuntu has only free software
[21:51] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: vsftpd is free and open source
[21:51] <sageb1> no no, hell is any room where no one speaks because everyone is too busy, "doing things in rl"
[21:51] <ccharles`> Frailmage: on linux, most things are 'freeware' (as well as open source). all options presented so far (vsftpd, scp using openssh) are free.
[21:51] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: filezilla is also free
[21:51] <Frailmage> Okay, sorry I am very knew to the whole Linux idea.
[21:51] <fghfghfghh> irc://irc.velocityirc.net/evil
[21:52] <fghfghfghh> irc://irc.velocityirc.net/evil
[21:52] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: heh no problem we were all newbies once
[21:52] <sageb1> frailmage, did you use "apt-cache search ftp |grep "server"" to check and see if it is in the repositories
[21:52] <Seveas> mDemocritus, Flannel was born brilliant ;)
[21:52] <mDemocritus> hah
[21:53] <Frailmage> no not yet I will now though
[21:53] <sageb1> there is ftpd and ftpd-ssl
[21:53] <DaRe_DeViL> will try another irc programs guess
[21:53] <rahduke> what video codecs should i download for ubuntu?
[21:53] <DaRe_DeViL> ty patrick
[21:53] <jrib> !restricted > rahduke (read the private message from ubotu)
[21:53] <sageb1> rahduke, the nonfree codecs?
[21:54] <Seveas> rahduke, w32codecs from medibuntu (one of the 4 I pasted to you) and lots of things with gstreamer in the name :)
[21:54] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: sageb1's suggestion is good to find package names, but check out the packages that you find on google before just installing them
[21:54] <kane77> what do you think is better, virtualbox or qemu?
[21:54] <Seveas> kvm
[21:54] <jin> kane77: try both and see which one you like most?
[21:54] <ccharles`> kane77: I use KVM with qemu, which is going to be the 'official' Ubuntu virtualization product.
[21:55] <Frailmage> Okay now I am a bit confused. When you say find package names what exactly do you mean? I thought that sage's comment ment to search for the install file with the cmd promt (sorry know that is not the right name but can't remeber the linux version of it)
[21:55] <Squawk> Frailmage, id suggest having a look at proftpd, very simple to configure for a basic server, infinitely configurable once you know what you are doing
[21:55] <ccharles`> kane77: VirtualBox is supposed to be *very* easy to use, though.
[21:55] <Frailmage> okay
[21:55] <cripps>  I'm running ubuntu gutsy, and having issues with an intel ipw3945 wireless card. It was working ootb, but when I put a WEP password on the A.P. it automagically stopped working, and now kwifimanager doesn't even see a wireless interface. Has anybody run into this problem before?
[21:55] <Squawk> Frailmage, and it is the command prompt ;)
[21:55] <sageb1> there is also pure-ftpd, but wu-ftpd has gained popularity and dominance
[21:55] <kane77> ccharles`, and it's opensource too, right?
[21:55] <chewd> hi guys... im trying to edit my smb.conf  but it wont let me... how to i open text editor with root privs?
[21:56] <kane77> chewd, sudo vim file
[21:56] <jin> ff3 beta 4 has the same icons as ff2 on Linux but on Win, it has another icon set :\
[21:56] <Squawk> chewd, "sudo gedit smb.conf"
[21:56] <sageb1> one wonders if an ipw3945 has wep
[21:56] <chewd> sudo vim /etc/samba/smb.conf ??
[21:56] <Flannel> chewd: gksu gedit /etc/whatever/whatever
[21:56] <ccharles`> kane77: VirtualBox? um, sorta. there is an open source version (which is shipped with Ubuntu) and a closed-source commercial version with some extra bells and whistles.
[21:56] <Seveas> chewd, gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[21:56] <kane77> chewd, replace vim with any editor you like, and file with file you want to edit...
[21:56] <kane77> ccharles`, hmm.. okay I will try both...
[21:57] <JonathanLahav> I found a bug (?) in launchpad
[21:57] <mDemocritus> Frailmage, Squawk, ProFTPd is really good once you get it running, but it can be overwhelming to someone without much experience... i've experienced that before
[21:57] <chewd> lemme run this past you real quick
[21:57] <Seveas> JonathanLahav, then file a bug :)
[21:57] <Seveas> JonathanLahav, http://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad
[21:57] <chewd> ive been fighting with ubuntu to get it to see my windows network... i had netbeui causing probs
[21:57] <ronandi> anyone know a good java ide that has gobby features, but can compile too?
[21:57] <kane77> I only want to try different linux flavors without the possibility of messing up my partitions (last time I formated ubuntu partition)
[21:57] <chewd> so today i finally went through & removed netbios/netbeui from all the machines on my network
[21:57] <ccharles`> ronandi: eclipse is *huge*, but it's very good.
[21:57] <sageb1> To use WEP you must enable the crypto library support
[21:57] <chewd> took some doing
[21:57] <sageb1> (CONFIG_CRYPTO) and the ARC4 cipher algorithm (CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4)
[21:58] <chewd> but now ive gotta undo all the stuff i did to try to get ubuntu to play with netbios
[21:58] <chewd> i think i gotta turn off wins support in smb.conf
[21:58] <chewd> does that sound reasonable?
[21:58] <chewd> all this network stuff is a bit over my head
[21:58] <ronandi> ccharles: yeah, im using eclipse europa right now, but I dont think there is any gobby-like functionality that you can install for it
[21:59] <sageb1> re ipw3945 wireless .. is crypto library support and arc4 algorithm turned on?
[21:59] <endo> how can I get rid of this?
[21:59] <endo> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-backports/Release Unable to find expected entry  restri/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:59] <chewd> i shouldnt need wins support now that im not running netbios
[21:59] <chewd> right?
[21:59] <ccharles`> ronandi: oh, sorry, I missed that bit. gobby is the group-edit-over-the-web text editor, right?
[21:59] <JonathanLahav> if the package text box is NOT empty and you choose "don't know" about the package, when you try to send the report you get the message "there is 1 error." and NOTHING is highlighted. Took me a while to find the solution in irc archives...
[21:59] <sageb1> endo: sudo apt-get update ?
[21:59] <kane77> chewd, I'm just solving samba problems.. I had it running but it doesn't show anymore
[21:59] <ronandi> ccharles: yeah it is, know any others?
[22:00] <chewd> well im giving it a go... bbia reboot
[22:00] <endo> sageb1: thats what gives me the error
[22:00] <sageb1> ok where's the user with the ipw3945 question?
[22:00] <ccharles`> ronandi: nope, sorry. my best suggestion is to use CVS/Subversion/Git for code coordination between people, but of course that isn't real-time.
[22:01] <Stroganoff> i reported an bug during installation. is there anything apart from syslog i could provide?
[22:01] <sageb1> endo: mmm grep the sources.list for gutsy-backports
[22:01] <ronandi> ccharles`: ive got no idea what CVS/Subversion...blahblahblah is. Is that like Dreamweaver's check-in, check-out functionality?
[22:01] <endo> sageb1: how do I go about doing that?
[22:01] <ccharles`> ronandi: heh. I have no idea what Dreamweaver's functionality is :-).
[22:02] <ccharles`> ronandi: CVS/Subversion/Git are all revision control systems. basically they track who changed what when in source code.
[22:02] <hischild> ronaldo, ccharles` Dreamweaver checking and subversion's checkin are basically the same theory.
[22:02] <sageb1> it looks like the "restri/binary-i386/Packages" is the problem. wouldn't it be "Restricted"?
[22:02] <ronandi> hischild: thanks for the clarification
[22:02] <ccharles`> hischild: thanks.
[22:02] <pakmei> hischild: dreamweaver doesnt do revisions
[22:03] <ronandi> pakmei: you mean, it doesnt track who changed what?
[22:03] <hischild> pakmei, i'm not talking about revisions, i'm talking about the checkin/checkout and locking of files
[22:03] <sageb1> endo, in command line: "grep restri $(locate sources.list|grep apt)"
[22:04] <sageb1> assuming that "restri" is incorrect
[22:04] <jin> whe playing a movie and going full screen, the movie stops for a second or two and then continu. why's that?
[22:04] <ronandi> yeah, I love gobby's group-editing, but hate how it has no compile within it. Eclipse's compile function is awesome
[22:04] <endo> sageb1: WOW, where do you learn commands like that?
[22:04] <sageb1> jin: memory and pushing content through agp 64Mb window
[22:05] <Seamus> So whats going on with Upstart, is it still running everything in sysv comatibility mode?
[22:05] <sageb1> endo, trial and error over 15 yrs
[22:05] <Seveas> Seamus, almost
[22:05] <endo> sageb1: if only linux was easier to use...its coming
[22:05] <silent_> if I were to mount one directory on another in fstab, what would I list as the fs type?
[22:05] <ccharles`> endo: if you want to learn shell stuff like what sageb1 is using, google the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide.
[22:06] <Seamus> Seveas: is there a configuration guide for it?
[22:06] <barslow> Hi, Can someone help me with Samba Network sharing?
[22:06] <endo> ccharles`: thank you for the reference. I will :)
[22:06] <jin> vlc works better :-)
[22:06] <silent_> barslow: maybe
[22:06] <Seveas> Seamus, upstart.ubuntu.com :)
[22:06] <sageb1> i nvr use video at fullscreen cos u r just blitting from 320*200 to you max res
[22:06] <Seamus> as far as adding new services, stopping new ones
[22:06] <Seveas> !u | sageb1
[22:06] <ubotu> sageb1: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[22:06] <barslow> Well I've been using SMB sharing to stream media to my xbox via XBMC
[22:07] <barslow> recently I've lost the ability to stream video out of RAR packages
[22:07] <Frailmage> Well I am back, I am trying proftpd, and have just ran the configure shell script(?) and am now confused. I tried reading the install read me that came with it. and the first step it self went completely over my head.
[22:07] <Seamus> Seveas: does upstart explain the startup performance increase in hardy?
[22:07] <sageb1> ok, you want me to be more RP
[22:07] <Seveas> Seamus, no
[22:07] <barslow> without extracting the contents I can no longer view videos that are in RAR packages
[22:07] <silent_> barslow: rar is a compression type, that is client-side
[22:07] <barslow> it seems so
[22:08] <ronandi> is there a way to open up a program in terminal, and allow the program to continue to run, even if you close the terminal that launched it?
[22:08] <silent_> barslow: why would you have media in rars?
[22:08] <sageb1> endo, the advanced bash scripting guide is also found via apt-cache search i.e. apt-cache search bash
[22:08] <ccharles`> ronandi: 'command &'
[22:08] <barslow> I'm not sure what happen it maybe in my smb.conf file, just looking for some help
[22:08] <ronandi> no
[22:08] <Seamus> Seveas: oh, maybe that's just me?
[22:08] <ronandi> that doesnt do it
[22:08] <barslow> alot of the video i download is in rar packages
[22:08] <Seveas> ronandi, if it's interactive, look at screen
[22:08] <barslow> from newsgroups BT etc etc
[22:09] <Seveas> barslow, we don't support piracy
[22:09] <silent_> barslow: I can guarantee you that the problem will disappear if you just extract the rar files. rar isn't really meant for long-term storage. To stream and extract the data is a waste of processing power
[22:09] <barslow> well TV shows are a grey area i think
[22:09] <silent_> barslow: extract your media into whatever encoded format then play it
[22:09] <Seveas> barslow, no they're not.
[22:10] <silent_> Seveas: he never said anything about intellectual property
[22:10] <sageb1> barslow, only if recorded on betamax from a tv using rabbit ears
[22:10] <barslow> well its just easier to leave them in rar packages, It's worked fine in the past
[22:10] <silent_> barslow: thanks for admitting to piracy, we didn't need to know what you're storing
[22:10] <JonathanLahav> goodnight
[22:10] <ronandi> Seveas: huh? ccharles`: & returns control to terminal, but if you exit, the "children" close
[22:10] <Blaise> Hi, I'm trying to play my guitar through my PC, but I can't hear anything through the speakers, although I can successfully use Sound Recorder
[22:10] <endo> sageb1: I run that command and i get variousion of this: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list:deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted
[22:10] <Blaise> Is there a way I can 'monitor' the output?
[22:10] <endo> sageb1: like this: /etc/apt/sources.list.save:# deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[22:10] <silent_> barslow: how is it easier to leave them in rar packages?
[22:10] <endo> sageb1: links
[22:11] <ccharles`> ronandi: for a graphical program, if you do 'command &' and then 'exit' in the terminal, the child should still run.
[22:11] <sageb1> the second one might be the problem at their end, endo
[22:11] <Stroganoff> whats the command to list all running processes
[22:11] <Stroganoff> (not top)
[22:11] <Starnestommy> Stroganoff: ps aux
[22:11] <Stroganoff> thx
[22:11] <Seveas> Stroganoff, ps f -e
[22:11] <endo> sageb1: how do I go about fixing it?
[22:11] <Seveas> Stroganoff, 'man ps' for more interesting flags :)
[22:12] <brobostigon> barslow: when you run, whatever is in the .rar, it has to extract whatever it is before it plays it anyway.
[22:12] <ccharles`> ronandi: Seveas was talking about a program called screen that lets you run console apps, disconnect from them, close the terminal,  and then reconnect later from a new terminal.
[22:12] <barslow> its easier because i don't need to extract anything i can just leave them in the format i downloaded them in
[22:12] <barslow> thats fine i'll just extract stuff from now on
[22:12] <sageb1> endo: replace ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[22:12] <endo> sageb1:  I edit this in the sources.list ?
[22:12] <silent_> barslow: until you can't view them because your streamer stopped handling that format because no one in their right mind would want to decode a stream multiple times
[22:12] <zod_> how to open an Zip file and unpack it in Ubuntu? what program do i need?
[22:13] <Flannel> endo: yes
[22:13] <Seveas> zod_, doubleclick on it :)
[22:13] <brobostigon> zod_: file-roller
[22:13] <sageb1> endo, do u use Synaptic to add or edit repository information?
[22:13] <silent_> zod_: I'd probably just right click on the file
[22:13] <sageb1> endo, synaptic would be easier for you, i think
[22:13] <barslow> next question: I use Mplayer to view videos, and it takes quite a long time to load... when it finally does it gives me this error before the video starts (Error: Could Not Open Required Direct Show Codec WMVdmod.dll)
[22:14] <sageb1> barslow, did u add the nonfree video codecs?
[22:14] <hackeron> I'm experiencing terrible echo with ekiga - when using skype there is no echo. I have a desktop microphone and using speakers - any ideas how to get such a setup to work (i.e. not using a headset)?
[22:14] <barslow> yes
[22:14] <sageb1> WMV is a w32codec
[22:14] <ronandi> ccharles`: well. if you do: "gedit&", and close terminal, gedit closes. If you do the same with gaim, and exit, the buddylist gui stays there, but all its contents disappear and you are dc-ed
[22:14] <silent_> barslow: Mplayer should look for the codecs for you
[22:14] <barslow> it doesn't unfortuantely
[22:14] <ronandi> idk, I can just use alt f2 anyway
[22:15] <silent_> barslow: have you tried using VLC? I use it now... it eliminates worrying over codecs
[22:15] <barslow> i love vlc player
[22:15] <ronandi> but, what the best audio player out there for linux? on windows I was using foobar2000, and winamp
[22:15] <sageb1> hackeron, adjust microphone volume?
[22:15] <CorruptTerrorist> hey all. is there a way i can run my ubuntu installation in vmware?
[22:15] <barslow> but it has problems with WMVHD content
[22:15] <mDemocritus> ronandi: amarok is awesome
[22:15] <barslow> doesn't play them correctly
[22:16] <hackeron> sageb1: lol, yeah, I've tried that
[22:16] <ccharles`> ronandi: that's really weird, because using & should work.
[22:16] <brobostigon> ronandi: audacious is my favorite
[22:16] <silent_> barslow: mplayer is better? That's surprising
[22:16] <e345> hello
[22:16] <mDemocritus> ronandi: xmms is pretty good too, basically a clone of winamp
[22:16] <hackeron> sageb1: either it's so quiet the person on the other end can't hear it, or there's terrible echo
[22:16] <sageb1> hackeron, mmm replace speakers with earbud headphones?
[22:16] <barslow> yea mplayer plays them fine
[22:16] <hackeron> sageb1: has to be speakerphone
[22:16] <barslow> except for that error
[22:16] <silent_> ronandi: there are a few choices... the most popular are Rhythmbox, Amarok, and XMMS
[22:16] <ronandi> hmm, ill try amarok, can you skin it easily?
[22:17] <e345> i'm trying to get VLC installed on my system, just installed Ubuntu earlier today and i'm getting dependency errors
[22:17] <sageb1> hackeron, then feedback or echo is a given
[22:17] <mDemocritus> ronandi: i believe so, haven't played with it that way though
[22:17] <brobostigon> ronandi: and audacious, its newer than xmms
[22:17] <ronandi> kk
[22:17] <Andril> can some one help with my fresh rates? keeps going to 50mhz using the restricted drivers for nvidia
[22:17] <hackeron> sageb1: well, is there anything with the echo cancellation quality of skype that works with asterisk?
[22:17] <silent_> ronandi: rhythmbox is a lot like itunes, if you're familiar with it. I find it very intuitive and simple. Amarok is a bit jumbled for my taste, but perhaps I'm just not used to it
[22:17] <mDemocritus> ronandi: amarok is kde based, but it should work fine in gnome
[22:17] <ronandi> k
[22:17] <sageb1> hackeron, IDK.
[22:18] <Blaise> Is there a way to make Rythmbox have smaller text?
[22:18] <Blaise> I find it takes too much space
[22:18] <hackeron> sageb1: huh?
[22:18] <brobostigon> ronandi: if you like winamp, use audacious, and xmms,
[22:18] <ronandi> oh yeah! I tried changing my session to KDE, and when it started up, evverything was SUPER TINY, and I could read anything
[22:18] <silent_> barslow: if it's working, even if there is an error, don't worry about it
[22:18] <barslow> well it takes forever for mplayer to launch
[22:18] <sageb1> hackeron, you are asking a question that is beyond my skillset. Asterix is part of PBX telephony
[22:18] <barslow> its kind of annoying
[22:19] <mad_max02> damn HDbits banned azureus <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:19] <mDemocritus> ronandi: don't start a session with kde, just use gnome... kde apps usually run fine in gnome
[22:19] <mad_max02> I'm gonna use deluge from now on
[22:19] <silent_> ronandi: oh my god are you one of those computer newbies who uses like 800x600 on a 20" monitor cause it "makes the icons bigger" ?
[22:19] <mDemocritus> silent_ hahahahahaha
[22:19] <zod_> i got this an error occurred while loading the archive when i try to unpack an Zip file in archive manager, any other program i can use to unpack Zip Files?
[22:20] <silent_> mDemocritus: you know what I'm talking about ;P
[22:20] <mDemocritus> silent_: of course... i work tech support for graphics cards :D
[22:20] <silent_> ahaha
[22:20] <silent_> I bet you hear that a lot
[22:20] <sageb1> i tried azureus for about a couple hours until i realized that i'd have to dmz my computer to get it to work. but i realized linux isn't secure enough to handle over 100 knocks on the ports to justify that
[22:21] <bobbyd> hi
[22:21] <sageb1> dmz = "enable DMZ option on certain routers"
[22:21] <Frailmage> Okay so I just downloaded proftpd, and now I am once again over my head with this, I am used to the 1 click installs of Windows. Would someone be able to help me with this?
[22:21] <ronandi> silent_: no... not at all... Im one of those pplz who built there own comp and has an 8800(I only mention b/c of the lack of support). I've always used my native res: 1680x1050
[22:21] <mad_max02> sageb1, yeah but I didnt have to dmz in order to get it working
[22:21] <mDemocritus> sageb1: ktorrent is my favorite client.... it's a bit unstable in gnome, but it's sleek and works with upnp... there's a plugin for it
[22:21] <mad_max02> sageb1, just opened 2 ports
[22:21] <zod_> any one know`about an program for unpacking Zip and Rar Files? please tell, something like winrar for Ubuntu??
[22:21] <mad_max02> why would you people need upnp ???
[22:22] <mDemocritus> ronandi: i think he was kidding you
[22:22] <brobostigon> zod_: file-roller
[22:22] <erUSUL> zod_: file-roller ; peazip
[22:22] <sageb1> bittornado works for me
[22:22] <mad_max02> isnt it easier just to open 2 ports and use thosw ?
[22:22] <mad_max02> hm
[22:22] <mDemocritus> mad_max02: newbies lol
[22:22] <mad_max02> funny thing is that deluge crashed 2 time in 1 hour already
[22:22] <ronandi> silent_: lol...
[22:22] <sageb1> mod max, i opened those two ports. never got it to work regardless
[22:22] <mad_max02> I need to find another torrent client then
[22:22] <silent_> ronandi: hehe, alright, you'll probably want to change the appearance settings then... have you tried kde 4? or just 3?
[22:22] <mad_max02> sageb1, then u didnt do something correct
[22:23] <zod_> yea i know that im an newbies Mad_max02, dont make fun of me for that, i want to learn about Linux, and im new ;)
[22:23] <Brutality> could anyone explain to me what to do if I wanna get iTunes to work? Really need it for my iphone..
[22:23] <mad_max02> sageb1, coz I got my azureus to work like a charm
[22:23] <mDemocritus> zod_ he's messing with you
[22:23] <sageb1> mad mox, never had a problem with bit tornado
[22:23] <mad_max02> zod_,  ???? dude who even talked about you ?
[22:23] <silent_> zod_: unrar, unrar-free
[22:23] <brobostigon> !wine | Brutality
[22:23] <ubotu> Brutality: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:23] <mad_max02> lol just read lines dude
[22:23] <tmcfulton> When I start Ubuntu, the window server won't start, and it tells me that get-edid is not installed, I probably  need the proper driver, help please?
[22:23] <silent_> everything else is handled by default
[22:23] <zod_> sorry did see in the chat, something about newbies ;) and im one of them ;)
[22:24] <Brutality> thank you brobostigon
[22:24] <mad_max02> zod_, well I didnt talk about you fo sho
[22:24] <silent_> ronandi: oh! you can also run foobar2000 in wine if you really want... but I find rhythmbox far superior to fb
[22:24] <zod_> sorry my bad then mad_max02
[22:24] <mDemocritus> zod_: whatever torrent client you use, there's settings for the ports it uses
[22:24] <sageb1> zod_, um basically you install rar and the other file compression apps
[22:24] <ompaul> !offtopic
[22:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:25] <mDemocritus> zod_: sorry man... i got all confused :D
[22:25] <henri1> anyone here familiar with mencoder and x264 ? i keep getting a "FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver"
[22:25] <zod_> its ok tnx for tip anyway ;)
[22:25] <tmcfulton> When I start Ubuntu, the window server won't start, and it tells me that get-edid is not installed, I probably  need the proper driver, help please?
[22:25] <sageb1> henri, is that video driver codec installed?
[22:25] <Tu13es> hm, I'd like to run my system headless and just use ssh -X to get GUI access, is that feasible?
[22:26] <ronandi> silent_: lol, im not sure which kde I was using... probably the latest... and I cant change my appearance settings, because the text is so small thats its completely illegible. Unless someone can give me some terminal commands to change them
[22:26] <mDemocritus> Tu13es: yep
[22:26] <henri1> sageb1, I thought so, how to check ?
[22:26] <Tu13es> the only thing I'm not sure of is, say, how to log in with ssh -X, do things like start up apps, then log out and log back in later and have them still running
[22:26] <tmcfulton> can someone help?
[22:27] <mDemocritus> Tu13es: that gets a bit more difficult
[22:27] <Tu13es> that's what I thought :-\
[22:27] <zod_> How to install the rar and other file compression apps ?
[22:27] <Polarina> ronandi: Are you running the Nvidia binary blob?
[22:27] <sageb1> henri, "locate w32codec"
[22:27] <tmcfulton> can someone help?
[22:27] <brobostigon> zod_: synaptic
[22:27] <tmcfulton> When I start Ubuntu, the window server won't start, and it tells me that get-edid is not installed, I probably  need the proper driver, help please?
[22:27] <silent_> ronandi: no, unfortunately I don't have much experience with that... however you can change your default x mode to use a lower resolution temporarily to change the fonts
[22:27] <sageb1> zod_, man apt-get
[22:27] <ArthurArchnix> sudo apt-get install unrar
[22:28] <silent_> ronandi: in xorg.conf
[22:28] <sageb1> "apt-cach search" will find your compression apps
[22:28] <Brutality> brobostigon:  when I get this Wine under control, do I just download iTunes like I would in windows or am I wrong?
[22:28] <sageb1> eg zip, lzh, rar, arc
[22:28] <hischild> I have an atheros 5007EG wireless card. I had to compile a specific madwifi version for it to get it working, and it stopped working. The modules are not being loaded and when attempting to do so, i get unknown symbol and disagrees about version warnings.
[22:28] <silent_> Brutality: you wouldnt download ituns
[22:28] <ConstyXIV> is there a way to find out if your ISP does ipv6?
[22:28] <tmcfulton> Could somebody help me, please?
[22:28] <Brutality> What do I do then
[22:28] <silent_> Brutality: why are you downloading itunes
[22:29] <henri1> sageb1, does return anything... I should add that I could make a successfull encode from rm to mpeg using the lavc codecs
[22:29] <Tu13es> mDemocritus: any thoughts?
[22:29] <ronandi> Polarina: I have no clue what that is. I used envy, and its fine now. The res of my login screen is like 800*600, but as soon as I login, it goes to the native 1680*1050 (we talking about gnome)
[22:29] <brobostigon> Brutality: down load the normal setup, and run"wine setup.exe"
[22:29] <Ace2016> !tell
[22:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:29] <Polarina> ConstyXIV: Call technical support.
[22:29] <xeer> hi everyone. my arch is x86_64 using v7.10. I have firefox v2.0.x with the nspluginwrapper for adobe flash player 9. I could be at a website that has a flash object on it, it would work fine and then randomly disappear leaving only a grey box. seems the npviewer.bin program crashes. I have to restart firefox to get flash to work again. is this a known issue? is there a way to solve this?
[22:29] <mDemocritus> Tu13es: /me shrugs
[22:29] <mad_max02> DAMN
[22:29] <mad_max02> deluge got removed
[22:29] <mDemocritus> Tu13es: sorry man, i've got nothin
[22:29] <ConstyXIV> Brutality: use rhythmbox (installed), or banshee
[22:29] <mad_max02> any other ideas on torrent clients for gnome ???
[22:29] <Ace2016> Is there a way to pass a message to another irc user when they login???
[22:29] <Brutality> Is it the same as iTunes ConstyXIV ?
[22:29] <ConstyXIV> mad_max02: get transmission
[22:29] <ArthurArchnix> mad_max02: google deluge-torrent and get the latest deb for ubuntu
[22:29] <silent_> Brutality: ConstyXIV is right, use rhythmbox, it is a linux-based itunes clone
[22:30] <ConstyXIV> Brutality: very close.  you have rhythmbox installed
[22:30] <Brutality> Ok, thank you very much
[22:30] <zod_> How to install the rar and other file compression apps ? unrar is good?
[22:30] <Brutality> I will get to it right away
[22:30] <ArthurArchnix> mad_max02: I'm using it now. It rocks.
[22:30] <tmcfulton> When I start Ubuntu, the window server won't start, and it tells me that get-edid is not installed, I probably  need the proper driver, help please?
[22:30] <Brutality> It's good to keep Wine installed right?
[22:30] <silent_> Brutality: for certain things
[22:30] <silent_> can't hurt
[22:30] <Brutality> Ok great
[22:30] <ArthurArchnix> zod_: unrar unrar's your rar files. If that is good, then it is good.
[22:30] <brobostigon> Brutality: you will not be able to use the itunes store with that,as its not itunes.
[22:30] <Brutality> I dont use the store anyway :D
[22:30] <sageb1> zod, "sudo apt-get install unrar
[22:30] <silent_> buying music?
[22:30] <sageb1> "
[22:30] <Brutality> Its just so i can get my music and movies on my iphone
[22:30] <silent_> ...oops...
[22:31] <zod_> how to unzip my zipfiles then? :)
[22:31] <Brutality> Haha
[22:31] <mDemocritus> zod_ what's the error you get when you try extracting one of those archives?
[22:31] <tmcfulton> The window server tells me that get-edid isn't installed, what do i do?
[22:31] <Brutality> Darn, ya got me ;)
[22:31] <chris0> real quick question here. If you have a mouse in a USB port, hoe do you determine what it's called in /dev? It's not /dev/input/mice (my eraser mouse) or /dev/psaux (my touchpad)
[22:31] <fung> unzip?
[22:31] <Polarina> Brutality: It doesn't harm anyone; other than limiting your current storage capacity.
[22:31] <xeer> hi everyone. my arch is x86_64 using v7.10. I have firefox v2.0.x with the nspluginwrapper for adobe flash player 9. I could be at a website that has a flash object on it, it would work fine and then randomly disappear leaving only a grey box. seems the npviewer.bin program crashes. I have to restart firefox to get flash to work again. is this a known issue? is there a way to solve this?
[22:31] <Brutality> ok
[22:31] <Brutality> Great support in here, really appreciate it
[22:31] <brobostigon> Brutality: install wine, then run wine setup.exe.
[22:31] <silent_> Polarina: disk space is cheap
[22:31] <ArthurArchnix> zod_: Gutsy can unzip files already. Nothing more to do. Right-click and choose extract.
[22:31] <tmcfulton> If somebody answers your questions, it's good
[22:31] <silent_> ArthurArchnix: we've been telling him that for ages, he doesnt get it
[22:32] <erUSUL> xeer: i have seen flash crashes but not that much that it becomes a problem for me
[22:32] <Brutality> when I run it, it gives me a black screen until i right click
[22:32] <ArthurArchnix> silent_: Good to know.
[22:32] <ronandi> what do you use to get widgets in gnome?
[22:32] <hischild> I have an atheros 5007EG wireless card. I had to compile a specific madwifi version for it to get it working, and it stopped working. The modules are not being loaded and when attempting to do so, i get unknown symbol and disagrees about version warnings.
[22:32] <sageb1> tmcfulton, what was the program that failed?
[22:32] <zod_>  an error occurred while trying to open the archive
[22:32] <tmcfulton> The window server
[22:32] <silent_> ronandi: there are a couple options, you can use gdesklets
[22:32] <tmcfulton> I have no window server running
[22:32] <mDemocritus> ronandi: right click on the panel, add app or something like that
[22:32] <xeer> erUSUL: seems it likes to crash when I have more then one flash object on the page. sometimes it works, other times it disappears.
[22:32] <silent_> ronandi: and there was another, but I can't remember it, it's not included in the repositories
[22:32] <sageb1> tmcfulton, samba or X11?
[22:33] <tmcfulton> err...
[22:33] <xeer> myspace is a flash killer, they always have like 3 objects on the page at once
[22:33] <ronandi> ok thanks
[22:33] <hackeron> sageb1: just tried x-lite - no echo at all, but doesn't run on linux - GRRRR :'(
[22:33] <tmcfulton> X11, I believe
[22:33] <sageb1> tmcfulton, you mean, you get no GUI
[22:33] <tmcfulton> yeah, no GUI
[22:33] <silent_> ronandi: do you mean adding things to your taskbar?
[22:33] <zod_> and that is what i got when trying to unzip my zip files:  an error occurred while trying to open the archive" any one know of an program that will unzip my zipfiles?
[22:33] <hackeron> anyone here had speakerphone voip on Linux with no echo? - care to share how you did it?
[22:33] <sageb1> zod, unzip
[22:33] <nikrud> zod_: install   unzip    and try unzipping it with that (in a terminal).  You might get a more useful error message
[22:34] <mDemocritus> zod_ did you try right clicking on the archive itself, choose extract?
[22:34] <one_matthias> ho how can i change screen resolution on the screen saver for ati graphics card ...
[22:34] <Brutality> When I plug in my iphone it doesnt show in the rhythmbox program?
[22:34] <xeer> I actually managed to get the error messages from the nsplugin wrapper
[22:34] <ronandi> silent_: both on to desktop, and taskbar. I oced my computer, so some temp meters would be good
[22:34] <silent_> ronandi: http://linux4world.blogspot.com/2007/10/top-8-widget-engines-for-linux-platform.html
[22:34] <magnetron> hackeron: move the mic away from the speaker
[22:34] <hackeron> magnetron: makes it worse
[22:34] <Pupeno> Hello.
[22:34] <zod_> yea did try right click dont got that extract to choose there
[22:34] <hackeron> magnetron: unless I move it too far away for it to be practical
[22:34] <xphox> sup
[22:34] <silent_> ronandi: a combination of gnome panel apps and some sort of widgets/desklets app will do the trick
[22:35] <magnetron> hackeron: then move the speaker away from the mic
[22:35] <mDemocritus> zod_ try nikrud's suggestion
[22:35] <tmcfulton> sageb1: I changed my graphics card
[22:35] <silent_> ronandi: play around with things, that's the great thing about linux, there's lots of choice
[22:35] <chris0> real quick question here. If you have a mouse in a USB port, how do you determine what it's called in /dev? It's not /dev/input/mice (my eraser mouse) or /dev/psaux (my touchpad)
[22:35] <Pupeno> How can I mesure the speed of my Ubuntu to compare it when it is running directly on metal and on virtualization? any benchmark?
[22:35] <Brutality> What do I do to make the rhythmbox detect my iphone?
[22:35] <tmcfulton> sageb1: I most likely need a driver
[22:35] <zod_> what the command to give in terminal for install that unzip program?
[22:35] <sageb1> tmcfulton, ohhhhh. yes. your new card is nvidia?
[22:35] <silent_> Brutality: buy a mac
[22:35] <erUSUL> xeer: well all i can offer is my experience it is not as bad as yours so i dunno
[22:35] <tmcfulton> No
[22:35] <hackeron> magnetron: I get no echo with skype or x-lite on the same machine, it's a software issue - I need a sip client with better echo cancellation
[22:35] <tmcfulton> It's integrated with the motherboard
[22:35] <nikrud> zod_:   sudo apt-get install unzip
[22:35] <xeer> *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: passing an unknown instance
[22:35] <DieseL`nix> lo
[22:35] <Brutality> Hm so I cant use this to migrate music and moveis to my ipod & iphone?
[22:36] <magnetron> hackeron: what client are you using?
[22:36]  * chris0 passes an instance
[22:36] <xeer> googling that error produces no help what so ever. seems im the only one
[22:36] <tmcfulton> sageb1: It's integrated with the motherboard
[22:36] <sageb1> tmcfulton, let me see: you replaced motherboard?
[22:36] <brobostigon> Brutality: i have my doubts you will get an answer, very few peple will have tied that.
[22:36] <tmcfulton> No
[22:36] <zod_> what the command to give in terminal for install that unzip program? please?
[22:36] <Brutality> Oh ok
[22:36] <DieseL`nix> having a problem installing screenlets on gutsy... can't find any working repos, debs or source to compile?
[22:36] <Pupeno> Brutality: have you tried Amarok, just to see if some free software is capable of doing what you want.
[22:36] <hackeron> magnetron: ekiga, linphone, kiax and kphone - terrible echo in those 4
[22:36] <tmcfulton> sageb1: I used to use a real card, but it didn't work very well
[22:36] <Wolf23> somebody help me plz!!
[22:36] <Brutality> I will try right away Pupeno
[22:36] <silent_> Brutality: no idea, if there is it's probably beta/alpha software... if you buy apple products you have to expect apple to monopolize their technologies
[22:36] <ArthurArchnix> zod_ what is your zip file called and where is it located?
[22:37] <billy___> when i try to install the bcm43xx-fwcutter package the package installer gives me this error :    Error: Dependancy is not satisfiable: libc6    what do i do?
[22:37] <Brutality> yeah but I switched from windows to ubuntu because i saw somewhere that it is indeed possible
[22:37] <nikrud> zod_:   sudo apt-get install unzip   . You might want to try using xchat for your irc, it highlights lines with your name in them. Less likely to miss a message
[22:37] <erUSUL> !anybody | Wolf23
[22:37] <ubotu> Wolf23: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:37] <sageb1> tmcfulton, do you know your motherboard specs? maker, model number
[22:37] <silent_> Brutality: then you should go back to where you saw it was possible and find out how
[22:37] <Brutality> Yeah if only I remembered hehe :D
[22:37] <sageb1> e.g. "asus f2b"
[22:37] <billy___> anybody?
[22:37] <Brutality> I think it was with Wine tho
[22:37] <zathras_laptop> how can i correct a package that failed and now apt-get reports that the source file is missing
[22:37] <Wolf23> erUSUL:  thanx, but on ktorrent i have delete the torrent with the data file, so how could i recover the file?>
[22:38] <brobostigon> Brutality: a prog that works with a normal ipod is gtkpod, but if its works with iphone, no idea.
[22:38] <silent_> Brutality: http://www.google.ca/search?q=iphone+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[22:38] <Brutality> Wow, thanks for the support
[22:38] <DieseL`nix> hello? anyone here got screenlets working on gutsy?
[22:38] <Brutality> Amarok it is! :)
[22:38] <KelebekSohbet958> Selamlar..
[22:38] <gnychis> whats the best way to install acroread? I don't want to use evince
[22:38] <magnetron> hackeron: the phenomenom you are encountering is called "feedback" and is caused by the sound from your speaker being picked up the mic. if you try using a head set, you'll notice the difference. what you could do is lowering the mic volume level. that would reduce the effect.
[22:38] <chris0> DieseL`nix: my experience is that they are extremely flaky...
[22:38] <silent_> Brutality: "Amarok and gtkpod can wirelessly sync music with iPod Touch and iPhone, including adding, editing and playing songs and playlists."
[22:39] <towlie> i plugged in my hfs+ formatted usb external hard drive into my ubuntu box and it mounts it but it says its read only. doesnt linux support hfs+ read/write ?
[22:39] <KelebekSohbet958> Bye..
[22:39] <brobostigon> !medibuntu | gnychis
[22:39] <ubotu> gnychis: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:39] <ArthurArchnix> Brutality: Just tuning in, in case you haven't seen this page, for your reference... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone  my apologies if it's been covered.
[22:39] <hackeron> magnetron: I know what I'm experiencing, what I want to experience is echo/feedback cancellation :)
[22:39] <mDemocritus> gnychis: that question makes me shudder
[22:39] <silent_> Brutality: Google - It's just a click away
[22:39] <chris0> real quick question here. If you have a mouse in a USB port, hoe do you determine what it's called in /dev? It's not /dev/input/mice (my eraser mouse) or /dev/psaux (my touchpad)
[22:39] <Brutality> Amazing support, thanks guys
[22:39] <sageb1> towlie, perhaps
[22:39] <silent_> sageb1: you're a towel
[22:39] <magnetron> hackeron: so did you try reducing the mic level?
[22:39] <Brutality> True silent_, sorry
[22:39] <hackeron> magnetron: yes
[22:39] <mDemocritus> gnychis: try a couple other pdf viewers, check synaptic for pdf readers
[22:40] <gnychis> mDemocritus: if evince had a snapshot tool like acroread, it would be great... but instead i have to keep taking screen shots and cropping
[22:40] <towlie> does anyone know if  theres read write support for hfs+ formatted drives in linux
[22:40] <zod_> my zip file is called "Crossover.Pro.<IP_ADDRESS>.painejake.zip" and is Locaded in my home folder ArhurArchnix
[22:40] <DieseL`nix> chris0,  i've used them before and they were ok, just cant find any repos or debs, or even source to bloody install from
[22:40] <silent_> Brutality: np, it just gets really crowded in here when people ask questions that are already on the wiki/forums
[22:40] <hackeron> magnetron: to far lower levels that skype and x-lite get no echo/feedback whatever you want to call it
[22:40] <mDemocritus> gnychis: aha... i'll bet there's a dozen FLOSS pdf readers, one or two probably has that function
[22:40] <CoasterMaster> What's a good (SIMPLE) video editing program?
[22:40] <DieseL`nix> just out of interest, what alternatives are there to screenlets, other than gdesklets... ?
[22:40] <Wolf23> Helpers!!  thanx, but on ktorrent i have delete the torrent with the data file, so how could i recover this file please
[22:40] <mDemocritus> gnychis: i don't know of any off the top of my head
[22:40] <gnychis> mDemocritus: no problem, thanks
[22:40] <Brutality> Yeah I understand
[22:41] <Madman6510> Can someone tell me how to make it so I can have two different wallpapers on two different virtual desktops?
[22:41] <sageb1> user trying to get linux to read hpfs : please look at url: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Filesystems-HOWTO-4.html
[22:41] <kantor> hi, I've install ed ubuntu 7.10. How can I use my, or how can I make my ATA hard drive to be seen like a SCSI device (instead of hda to be sda) ?
[22:41] <mDemocritus> CoasterMaster: have you tried kino?
[22:41] <silent_> kantor: I don't know that you can... why?
[22:41] <mDemocritus> CoasterMaster: just a suggestion... i have no clue how simple it is
[22:41] <Wolf23> wb bruenig
[22:41] <brobostigon> Madman6510: i use enlightenment, and it does that.
[22:42] <sageb1> specifically: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Filesystems-HOWTO.html#toc4.5
[22:42] <zod_> Tnx all the Zip works great now ;)
[22:42] <Madman6510> brobostigon: would it just be sudo apt-get install enlightenment to install it?
[22:42] <silent_> zod_: you got it goin finally?
[22:42] <silent_> zod_: good stuff
[22:42] <mDemocritus> zod_: glad to hear it
[22:42] <kantor> in fedora my hda is sda because uses the sg dtiver
[22:42] <hischild> what's the main difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[22:42] <brobostigon> Madman6510: yep
[22:42] <kantor> silent_, in fedora my hda is sda because uses the sg dtiver
[22:42] <CoasterMaster> mDemocritus, i'll check it out
[22:42] <silent_> kantor: I have a feeling you're in the wrong place
[22:42] <ArthurArchnix> zod_: open a terminal and cut and paste the following command: cd ~/ && ls | grep zip
[22:42] <Madman6510> brobostigon: ok, I'll try that
[22:42] <zod_> yea thanks all, i dont know what i do with out all ure help ;=)
[22:43] <mDemocritus> kantor: yea fedora is strange like that
[22:43] <sageb1> hischild: man aptitude  then man apt-get
[22:43] <towlie> does anyone know if  theres read write support for hfs+ formatted drives in linux
[22:43] <mDemocritus> kantor: that's why we use ubuntu :P
[22:43] <sageb1> towlie, which hpfs?
[22:43] <brobostigon> Madman6510: enlightenment is a whole DE, so you have to change to it in your login screen
[22:43] <sageb1> os/2 hpfs?
[22:43] <towlie> sageb1,  hfs+
[22:43] <nikrud> hischild: not a lot anymore. aptitude has better search functions, and a nice ncurses interface
[22:43] <Wolf23> any of the felpers plz  thanx, but on ktorrent i have delete the torrent with the data file, so how could i recover this file
[22:43] <Madman6510> brobostigon: ok
[22:43] <magnetron> hackeron: first of all, I did not write Ekiga so start complaining to me. if you want skype, just install it. and if you're looking for a SIP client with echo cancellation, use Ekiga. so you need to reduce the feedback in your setup.
[22:44] <one_matthias> anyone now hot to set screen sice in screen saver
[22:44] <towlie> sageb1,  no mac os x
[22:44] <silent_> Wolf23: if you re-load the torrent most torrent programs will run hash checks on already downloaded content
[22:44] <hischild> sageb1, i was just looking for a quick answer instead of searching ... it just popped into my mind and i started wondering ..
[22:44] <one_matthias> sorry , anyone knows hot to sett resolution when screen saver turn on ...
[22:44] <gnychis> ubotu: the only problem i'm having with acroread and medibuntu is acroread: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is installed.
[22:44] <hischild> nikrud, right ... so i can just stick with apt
[22:45] <Wolf23> silent_:  torrent i dont have it save from the tracker site but just open it
[22:45] <nikrud> hischild: I used to use aptitude exclusively, but have switched to apt-get based on advice from a canonical support guy (except for the searching)
[22:45] <one_matthias> i get the wrong screen resolution when the screen saver kicks in ...
[22:45] <zod_> how do i install this file here "cedega-engine-6.0.5-local-update.i386.cpkg"?
[22:45] <silent_> Wolf23: re-download the torrent, or if you can't, find a new source
[22:45] <silent_> and delete the old content downloaded
[22:45] <gnychis> brobostigon: the only problem i'm having with acroread and medibuntu is acroread: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is installed.
[22:45] <chimp_in_basemen> .accessirc.net
[22:45] <sageb1> hfs apps in ubuntu linux: "apt-cache search mac|grep hfs
[22:45] <chimp_in_basemen> bah hahaha
[22:45] <sageb1> "
[22:45] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: Aptitude was created to cover up for problems with apt, problems that have been resolved for about two years now. AFAIK that's the only reason aptitude exists.
[22:46] <Wolf23> silent_:  the torrent is not on the website so i have to upload it another time
[22:46] <brobostigon> gnychis: no idea,sorry
[22:46] <magnetron> hackeron: here are som things you could do to reduce the feedback: 1.make sure the mic isn't pointing towards any of the speakers. 2. adjust the mic amp levels. 3. try disabling the mic preamp.
[22:46] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, may i ask what problems they were if you know by chance?
[22:46] <silent_> Seveas: I'm guessing that link is... not nice?
[22:46] <brobostigon> gnychis: i am half asleep, no  concentrating
[22:46] <hischild> nikrud, and may i ask you why he gave you the advice to switch?
[22:46] <Seveas> silent_, spam
[22:46] <Wolf23> silent_:  the video file aso delete when i hit on delete torrent with all data
[22:47] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: the source of all my present, past and future knowledge...http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[22:47] <silent_> ah
[22:47] <magnetron> zod_: we do not provide cedega support. the fellows in the #cedega channel do, though
[22:47] <mDemocritus> gnychis: looks like you need to upgrade libpango... you might have to compile the source yourself
[22:47] <hackeron> magnetron: 1: done 2: done 3: done -- still terrible echo
[22:47] <silent_> doesn't cedega have paid support
[22:47] <hackeron> magnetron: have you personally managed to get a speakerphone setup working?
[22:47] <nikrud> hischild: based on 'a strong recommendation' from the ubuntu uber-geeks to recommend apt-get ;) I think it now has some functionality that aptitude doesn't expose yet.
[22:47] <Seveas> silent_, they have, but that won't give you support on illegal downloads ;)
[22:47] <silent_> Wolf23: ohh... yea, you're never getting that data back
[22:47] <magnetron> hackeron: did you get the same result with skype in ubuntu?
[22:48] <hackeron> magnetron: no, skype is flawless
[22:48] <sageb1> user with hfs+ question: hfsplus - tools to access HFS+ formatted volumes -- ubuntu has this app for hfs+
[22:48] <gnychis> mDemocritus: :\ then medibuntu is not doing its job :P
[22:48] <Wolf23> silent_:  looool so, there is no way?
[22:48] <magnetron> hackeron: so you have a "flawless" voip client. be happy.
[22:48] <silent_> Wolf23: yea, its gone
[22:48] <Wolf23> :(
[22:48] <Wolf23> bad
[22:48] <hackeron> magnetron: I don't, it's not a voip client, it's a skype client :) -- I need a voip (a.k.a sip or iax) client
[22:49] <sageb1> gnychis, think ofit as your motherboard needs its special version of libpango
[22:49] <silent_> that happens every now and then... people come in saying they "rm ____" and need the file back
[22:49] <silent_> "wheres the recycle bin??"
[22:49] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, that doc makes me think it would be better to use aptitude ...
[22:49] <Wolf23> silent_:  ok dont worry about this thing, can u tell me if voice chat from websites support on linux?
[22:49] <chris0> real quick question here. If you have a mouse in a USB port, hoe do you determine what it's called in /dev? It's not /dev/input/mice (my eraser mouse) or /dev/psaux (my touchpad)...
[22:49] <Seveas> silent_, we should hack rm to move to the recycle bin :)
[22:49] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, then again, i'm going to assume this was that problem you said that was fixed?
[22:49] <silent_> Seveas: totally could
[22:49] <billy___> hello guys, i need some help with gettin my broadcom card connected. can anyone help me out with this?
[22:49] <towlie> does anyone know if  theres read write support for hfs+ formatted drives in linux
[22:49] <silent_> Seveas: move to ~/.Trash
[22:49] <sageb1> wolf23, was this an important file?
[22:49] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: No... the doc explains why people used to recommend aptitude. Those reasons no longer exist.
[22:49] <DieseL`nix> how do you uninstall a .deb?
[22:50] <Seveas> !broadcom | billy___
[22:50] <ubotu> billy___: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[22:50] <magnetron> hackeron: the clients are good, but you really should compare the results you have now to what you would get with a headset.
[22:50] <Wolf23> sageb1:  yes :(
[22:50] <Seveas> DieseL`nix, dpkg -r packagename
[22:50] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, aah i see ..
[22:50] <erUSUL> DieseL`nix: dpkg -r packagename
[22:50] <hackeron> magnetron: I need a speakerphone, headset works fine, that doesn't help me
[22:50] <nikrud> Seveas: don't mess with the unix commands, pls :)
[22:50] <tmcfulton> Could somebody find the package containing the command or program "get-edid"
[22:50] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, because ... apt-get does have autoremove now ... which does the same correct?
[22:50] <Seveas> nikrud, never ;)
[22:50] <tmcfulton> I can't because X isn't working
[22:50] <bruenig> !find get-edid
[22:50] <ubotu> No packages matching 'get-edid' could be found
[22:50] <billy___> seveas: ive read that millions of times.. no helo
[22:50] <billy___> help**
[22:51] <sageb1> billy___, simple solution: if this is a wireless question, the answer is broadcom hasn't freed them to open source i.e. switch to another maker
[22:51] <silent_> Wolf23: voice chat from websites... I suppose it would depend on the format. if it's a stream usually there is the option to download a .pls to use in a media player or some sort of plugin for firefox
[22:51] <tmcfulton> Hmm
[22:51] <hackeron> magnetron: have you personally managed to get a working speakerphone on Linux without skype?
[22:51] <tmcfulton> X server tells me that it can't find get-edid
[22:51] <Seveas> billy___, then you'll need to explain your problem in more deail
[22:51] <Seveas> detail*
[22:51] <billy___> sageb1: im using a dell 1501.. theres no possible way i could switch the wireless card
[22:51] <sageb1> billy, however, if you wish to try to get broadcom to work, have you tried ubuntuforums?
[22:51] <bruenig> tmcfulton: that doesn't mean get-edid is a program
[22:51] <tmcfulton> or a command
[22:51] <Wolf23> silent_:  Firefox Cannot Accept The Active x Plugins
[22:51] <Wolf23> Please use Microsoft internet Explorer or MSN explorer To Enter The Site
[22:51] <billy___> seveas: ive tried bcm43xx-fwcutter and ndiswrapper, neither worked
[22:51] <bruenig> tmcfulton: program command, same thing
[22:52] <sageb1> oh, the dell 1501 broadcom centrino
[22:52] <Seveas> billy___, pastebin the output of lspci
[22:52] <Seveas> !pastebin | billy___
[22:52] <ubotu> billy___: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:52] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: Correct. here's another article you may be interested in... http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/12/aptitude-vs-apt-get/
[22:52] <silent_> Wolf23: hmm, I don't know much about active X in linux... but if it has anything to do with windows it's typically a negative result
[22:52] <bruenig> a command is an invocation of a particular program usually involving that programs name: thus firefox is both a program and a command
[22:52] <billy___> seveas: what file format can i use in ubuntu thats compatible with windows notepad? my ubuntu comp has no internet access whatsoever
[22:52] <tmcfulton> Well, can you help me get X server working?
[22:53] <Seveas> billy___, ah -- can't you hook it up with a wire for now, would make this a zillion times easier
[22:53] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, thanks ... reading
[22:53] <silent_> Wolf23: just did a quick google search, apparently people are recommending running IE, probably IE 6 in wine
[22:53] <billy___> seveas: LAN doesn't work either
[22:53] <rp3__> my icon for update manager notifications has dissapeard any idea how to get it back?
[22:53] <silent_> Wolf23: not sure, try it yourself
[22:53] <Seveas> billy___, if not, do this: lspci > foo.txt
[22:53] <Wolf23> bruenig:  so is there a way to work voice chat on linux?
[22:53] <Seveas> and copy over foo.txt, open it in wordpad (not notepad) on windows
[22:54] <sageb1> tmcfulton, i missed your reply to my question about motherboard manufacturer name and model number
[22:54] <tmcfulton> It's a Dell
[22:54] <tmcfulton> I don't know the model number
[22:54] <silent_> dude, you got a dell
[22:54] <billy___> seveas: where is the foo.txt file at?
[22:54] <billy___> dell sucks
[22:54] <Seveas> billy___, in your homedir probably
[22:54] <Wolf23> silent_:  thanx . but i dont know
[22:54] <Seveas> and watch your language please
[22:55] <silent_> Wolf23: read up on wine
[22:55] <sageb1> billy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459684
[22:55] <silent_> Wolf23: http://www.winehq.org/
[22:55] <tmcfulton> Dimension 5150 is all I can tell you
[22:55] <Seveas> tmcfulton, sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[22:55] <silent_> tmcfulton: did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and go through it carefully?
[22:55] <Wolf23> silent_: can u help me
[22:56] <tmcfulton> sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[22:56] <tmcfulton> oops
[22:56] <tmcfulton> no I didn't
[22:56] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, ok now i'm getting a little bit confused ... IMO apt has all the same functionality and has always served me well ... Aptitude seems to have some features that apt-get doesn't have ... does it have a downside?
[22:56] <silent_> Wolf23: unfortunately not, a lot of learning to use linux is individual, crack a beer and browse the net
[22:56] <sageb1> tmcfulton: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" gives info about motherboard and cpu
[22:56] <billy___> seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59870/
[22:57] <Seveas> billy___, hmm, never seen *that* broadcom before....
[22:57] <DrIP> hi all
[22:57] <DrIP> i need a bit of help
[22:57] <billy___> seveas: what do i do?
[22:57] <silent_> Wolf23: if you want to install wine to play around with it then in terminal enter "sudo apt-get install wine"
[22:57] <hischild> on a little sidenote ... ndiswrapper has a huge range compared to madwifi when using an atheros 5007EG
[22:57] <Brutality> If I go to terminal and type iphone-mount, it says 'cannot touch, permission denied
[22:57] <sageb1> tmcfulton: sudo dmidecode    - gives motherboard info
[22:57] <Brutality> What do i do :|
[22:57] <Wolf23> silent_:  i have it install
[22:58] <billy___> !ask|DrIP
[22:58] <ubotu> DrIP: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:58] <Seveas> billy___, hope for someone else in here to be able to help you :)
[22:58] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: I'm not aware of any specific downsides.
[22:58] <silent_> Wolf23: past that it's up to you to figure out how to use it... it's fairly straightforward
[22:58] <DrIP> i need my linksys wmp11v4 working with ndiswrapper
[22:58] <hischild> Brutality, precede it with sudo =)
[22:58] <billy___> seveas: lol okay, thanks
[22:58] <magnetron> hackeron: you could try these Sip softwares: kphone, twinkle, linphone and wengophone . you could install them with applications > add/remove
[22:58] <hackeron> magnetron: I have tried all those :(
[22:58] <Brutality> Can you say that again in words I understand? :$ I'm like really new into this
[22:58] <Wolf23> silent_:  see pv
[22:58] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, so basically, aptitude seems superior .... nikrud however was suggested by some linux guru's to use apt-get ... i'm trying to figure out why
[22:58] <Seveas> billy___, it would seriously help if you can get the wired net working
[22:58] <silent_> what's that linux ventrilo/teamspeak open source equivalent? I can't remember it's name
[22:58] <sageb1> mainly bios information and model and manufacturer
[22:59] <silent_> yack...
[22:59] <silent_> no
[22:59] <hischild> Brutality, sure. Instead of just typing  " iphone-mount " you have to type " sudo iphone-mount " as it's an operation that requires root privileges
[22:59] <DrIP> i have no internet other than my wireless and i /need/ it to work
[22:59] <Brutality> ok thanks let me try
[22:59] <hischild> silent_, you mean mumble?
[22:59] <silent_> mumble, that's the one
[23:00] <magnetron> silent_: teamspeak.
[23:00] <sageb1> brutality, "precede it with sudo" means "sudo [command variables...]" as in "sudo netstat -atunp"
[23:00] <sageb1> oh andthe password is the one for your user account
[23:00] <ArthurArchnix> hischild:  "Once you start using aptitude it is best to continue using it rather than alternative methods of installing packages; otherwise you lose the advantage of aptitude keeping track of which packages you have deliberately installed." That's a quote from the debian user manual... it also says that aptitude is the preferred method.
[23:01] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: "aptitude is now the preferred text front end for APT, the Advanced Package Tool." http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch-package.en.html#s-apt-install
[23:01] <Brutality> Ok now it tells me I should add myself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again
[23:01] <joe_> Hello, I dont know if anyone can help me, but I have a wireless lynksys g pci adapter, and for somereason I can get it to connect to my network at all.
[23:01] <magnetron> silent_: there's a teamspeak client in the ubuntu repositories.
[23:01] <Seveas> Brutality, sudo gpasswd -a your_username_here fuse
[23:01] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: I think I'm going to switch over now. The problem is going to be not accidentally apt-get updating :)
[23:01] <Brutality> sweet, thanks
[23:01] <Seveas> Brutality, and then logout + login
[23:01] <DrIP> any help? when i try to make ndiswrapper it phails miserably
[23:01] <Brutality> with terminal ?
[23:02] <joe_> can anyone help me?
[23:02] <Seveas> Brutality, yes
[23:02] <Brutality> Thanks, sec
[23:02] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, alright .... ubuntu is about a month old on my laptop now, i've installed a lot of packages ... would it still be preferably to use aptitude? or will i get some trouble with it?
[23:02] <Seveas> !wifi | joe_, here are some tips 'n tricks
[23:02] <ubotu> joe_, here are some tips 'n tricks: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:02] <joe_> thx
[23:02] <Wolf23> silent_:  is it works?
[23:02] <e345> how do you change file association defaults?
[23:02] <mDemocritus> joe_ the first step would be to find out what chipset the card has
[23:03] <Seveas> e345, rightclick on a file, look through the context menu
[23:03] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: My guess is that you'll have no problems switching, but that the benefits of using aptitude will only be applied to anything you install from this point forward. Otherwise, you shouldn't notice a different. That is, however, AFAIK
[23:03] <nikrud> e345: right click a file of the type you want to change, and select properties at the bottom. Change it in the open with tab
[23:03] <hischild> DrIP, can you be more specific? what does it do? what commands did you run?
[23:03] <cable> how in the world do you burn a dvd movie with linux?
[23:03] <cable> i can't find anything that works
[23:04] <snypzz> need a program to watch DVD's
[23:04] <nikrud> !dvd | snypzz
[23:04] <ubotu> snypzz: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:04] <tsrchristopher> this makefile installed a module to my kernel how do i remove it?
[23:04] <e345> nikrud: i did that, trying to switch from Movie Player to VLC and its not sticking?
[23:05] <magnetron> hackeron: do you run your own asterisk server?
[23:05] <Brutality> Hmm, still gives me this after closing and re opening: Unable to write to /media/ipod.  Please adjust permissions and try agai
[23:05] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, because currently i'm leaning towards aptitude ... i've heard a lot of good stories about it ... (and i'm laggin like hell for some wierd reason, but that's a sidenote) ...
[23:05] <bill1> seveas: i connect the wire to my ubuntu comp so im on the net on it, what can i do now?
[23:05] <nikrud> e345: be sure to move the radio button
[23:05] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, so ... aptitude it would appear to be from now
[23:05] <e345> i did.
[23:05] <Seveas> bill1, cool, try system -> administration -> restricted drivers
[23:05] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: I've been using apt always, but after going over it all with you I think I'm going to switch too.
[23:06] <snypzz> thanks
[23:06] <sageb1> adding user account to a group: "sudo nano -w /etc/group" and edit the group by adding user account name to it i.e. after last colon in line with a space after that colon, or after the previous user account preceded by a comma separator eg fuse:x:139:username1,username2
[23:06] <bill1> seveas: it said the bcm43xx is not in use or somethin like that
[23:06] <sageb1> note 139 may not be the UID for fuse
[23:06] <Seveas> sageb1, EWWWWW
[23:06] <sageb1> GUID
[23:06] <Brutality> Hmm, still gives me this after closing and re opening: Unable to write to /media/ipod.  Please adjust permissions and try agai
[23:07] <Seveas> sageb1, always use 'adduser user group' or 'gpasswd -a user group'
[23:07] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, yes. The only tool i understood properly so far was apt for it ... and i was satisfied with apt-cache, apt-file and the others ...
[23:07] <hischild> sageb1, why not just use sudo adduser user group?
[23:07] <sageb1> hey i cant find an addgroup app
[23:07] <sageb1> that works better
[23:07] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: It will be really good for me because I install a lot of deb's manually, like deluge-torrent, exaile, phatch, skype. Previously apt would download dependencies and leave them forever if I removed the programs. Aptitude however will remember that those dependencies were downloaded with skype and remove them when I remove skype.
[23:07] <bill1> kind of off topic: anyone know how i can make a DIY ethernet router? lol
[23:08] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, that sounds pretty good
[23:08] <sageb1> bill1, wired or wireless?
[23:08] <mDemocritus> bill1: a couple network cards and ipcop
[23:08] <Seveas> bill1, get an iptables introduction, 'iptables quick reference' from o'reilly is ok
[23:08] <bill1> sageb1: wired
[23:08] <sageb1> bill1, proprietary or linux? >:)
[23:08] <Brutality> Is there like anyone here, who've gotten to the point where he can add music/movies to his ipod/iphone, please come pm with me, I feel like a dumb guy right now.
[23:08] <magnetron> hackeron: which codecs do you use? i recently learned that the speex codec has good echo cancellation. ekiga and linphone supports speex, but it needs to be supported on the server side too.
[23:09] <tmcfulton> Well, I've managed to get X working, but now I have poor rendering speeds
[23:09] <sageb1> bill1, floppy?
[23:09] <bill1> sageb1: floppy?
[23:09] <magnetron> hackeron: see if you can enable speex support in the asterisk box
[23:09] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, yush, i'll switch to aptitude :-) sounds great
[23:09] <aghachi> eopard
[23:09] <bill1> seveas: i installed everything through the restricted drivers manager, now what? what can i do to see if everythings working right?
[23:09] <ronandi> anyone know how to get CS via Steam running?
[23:10] <captine> hi all.  anyone using a good blogging application for offline typing?  using blogspot and dont seem to have a nice graphical editor?\
[23:10] <Seveas> bill1, in the terminal, run this command: sudo iwlist scan
[23:10] <nikrud> Brutality: http://gtkpod.org , I compiled recent versions of that and libgpod for my 3dgen nano
[23:10] <bill1> nseveas: no scan results
[23:10] <Brutality> nikrud:  easier then Amarok?
[23:11] <tmcfulton> sageb1: I have X working, but I have horrible rendering speeds
[23:11] <nikrud> Brutality: the amarok in ubuntu doesn't support later versions of ipods, hardy will have the support
[23:11] <sageb1> bill1, there is a floppy linux router with firewall and also a cdrom version
[23:11] <Brutality> ok
[23:11] <sageb1> tmcfulton, ok, this is a dell laptop?
[23:11] <tmcfulton> desktop
[23:11] <sageb1> wait, scratch. you took out a video card
[23:12] <bill1> sageb1: haha you mean sneakernet?
[23:12] <sageb1> bill1, noooo that's when you add files using a floppy
[23:12] <billy1> do i gotta restart after installing with the restricted drivers manager?
[23:13] <Seveas> billy1, possibly
[23:13] <visof> i want know partitions of my hard disk from ubnutu ?
[23:13]  * nikrud still sneakernets vital stuff
[23:13] <sageb1> if it says to
[23:14] <billy1> seveas: actually now that i think about it ya cuz the comp has to load the firmware into the wireless card.. aight thanks brb
[23:14] <visof> is it fdisk to do this?
[23:14] <erUSUL> visof: better use gparted
[23:14] <nikrud> visof: yes,   sudo fdisk -l
[23:14] <erUSUL> !gparted | visof
[23:14] <ubotu> visof: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[23:14] <sageb1> linux router project is what i suspect openwrt is based on: http://pigtail.net/LRP/
[23:15] <nikrud> visof: that fdisk -l is about the only fdisk command you should use, though
[23:15] <tmcfulton> sageb1: perhaps I should do a more careful configuration of xserver-xorg?
[23:16] <aks_> hello
[23:16] <aks_> I'm trying to get my laptop to run at higher refresh rates than 60hz
[23:17] <aks_> I've been editing the xorg.conf but it doesn't seem to be working
[23:17] <Falstius> aks_: with an LCD?
[23:17] <aks_> Falstius: yes
[23:17] <sageb1> tmcfulton, your X11 is doing what to your monitor screen?
[23:18] <sageb1> aks_, which video chipset/card?
[23:18] <tmcfulton> Rendering at a speed of 10 fps and giving me display delays sometimes when more than one motion is happening on screen
[23:19] <aks_> sageb1: ATI Mobility Radeon 9100 IGP
[23:19] <aks_> sageb1: acc. to HP specifications, the max should be 70hz
[23:19] <sageb1> aks_, mmmm ati. now that's a tough one.
[23:20] <aks_> sageb1: I've found, I just downgraded to 6.10 for the proper driver
[23:20] <sageb1> tmcfulton, it'd be nice to get the motherboard bio version
[23:20] <Falstius> aks_:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate#Liquid_crystal_displays
[23:21] <sageb1> aks_, and you still have problems?
[23:21] <aks_> sageb1: not with the driver, that's fine - both 2d and 3d accel are working, which was impossible to get in 7.10
[23:22] <tmcfulton> BIOS?
[23:22] <sageb1> aks_, yes, and ati is going to delay that for 7.10 and beyond
[23:22] <sageb1> mainly cos microsoft asked for help for vista problems with ati cards
[23:24] <aks_> Falstius: hmm
[23:24] <sageb1> tmcfulton, yes if i knew what version of bios that dell motherboard is, i can use it to figure out the motherboard model number and find out about the video
[23:24] <aks_> Falstius: thanks for the link
[23:24] <aks_> Falstius: I suppose the constant headache I've had since I began with linux two weeks ago is not because of the refresh rate after all :)
[23:25] <Lam> i have a USB mouse that worked initially with 7.04, but when i did a 'apt-get upgrade' a few months ago, my mouse stopped working
[23:25] <styrman> is there an application that can download streams ? i'm watching this one hour tutorial in movie player but it plays it as stream.. and i can't go back or forward :P
[23:25] <kbrooks> i want to password protect a program. when it starts, i'd like a prompt for a password. is there a program that makes this easy?
[23:25] <sageb1> aks_, no that comes from sitting in one spot without timely breaks
[23:26] <sageb1> i mean, at least zen meditators sometimes circumabulate
[23:26] <tmcfulton> sageb1: Bios Revision A02
[23:26] <sageb1> A02?
[23:26] <sageb1> is that a GLX?
[23:27] <tmcfulton> GLX?
[23:27] <ronandi> how do you get steam?
[23:27] <tmcfulton> What is GLX?
[23:28] <billy1> hello can anyone help me configure my bcm card? i installed the drivers via the restricted drivers manager, but the wireless still won't connect. what do i do now?
[23:28] <kbrooks> ronaldo:
[23:28] <kbrooks> !steam
[23:28] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[23:28] <bianconeri4ever> hello I am using ubuntu 7.10 and i need some help with the garbled fonts on wine
[23:28] <lostxion> hello was wondering if anyone could tell me how to fix a problem that says "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:28] <lostxion> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[23:28] <lostxion> "
[23:28] <sageb1> tmcfulton, sorry. optiplex gx series
[23:29] <erUSUL> !info bcm43xx-fwcutter | billy1
[23:29] <ubotu> billy1: bcm43xx-fwcutter (source: bcm43xx-fwcutter): Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-3 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 116 kB
[23:29] <soundray> lostxion: have you tried to do what it says?
[23:29] <ronandi> kbrooks: yeah, but for linux/
[23:29] <ronandi> *?
[23:29] <kbrooks> lostxion, type dpkg --configure -a
[23:29] <tmcfulton> I have a Dell motherboard
[23:29] <lostxion> in the terminal???
[23:29] <soundray> lostxion: yes, with sudo
[23:29] <lostxion> very new to linux
[23:29] <lostxion> thanks ill try
[23:29] <kbrooks> ronandi,would we link to steam if it didnt work on linux?
[23:30] <billy1> erUSUL: i already did that
[23:30] <sageb1> it could even be a dell dimension 2350
[23:30] <mDemocritus> i'm having issues with a supposedly usb mass storage class device not persisting in /dev... the dmesg logs show detection and assignment to /dev/sdb 1 and 2, but when i try to mount it, cat it, or fdisk it, /dev/sdb doesn't exist... it assumes write through for drive caching, i have a feeling that has something to do with it... any ideas?
[23:30] <kbrooks> ronandi, there's a way to run steam on linux, with wine
[23:31] <tmcfulton> sageb1: My motherboard is a Dell DM051
[23:31] <kbrooks> !wine | ronandi
[23:31] <ubotu> ronandi: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[23:31] <billy1> is there any command i can use to see if the drivers and firmware are loaded correctly?
[23:31] <aks_> sageb1: yes, it's as if blood drains from your head
[23:31] <sageb1> tmcfulton thanks
[23:31] <killown> how I do to change main menu icon from gnome panel?
[23:32] <SNuxoll> killown: it's part of your icon theme
[23:32] <billy1> is there any way to check if the drivers and firmware for my bcm are loaded correctly
[23:33] <sageb1> tmcfulton, and the monitor is LCD?
[23:33]  * N3bunel is away: Over and Out ...
[23:34] <sageb1> a dell  dm051 uses the i945 chipset
[23:35] <choudesh> quiet channel tonight
[23:35] <tmcfulton> Yes
[23:35] <tmcfulton> Dell E196FP
[23:36] <soundray> mDemocritus: have you tried anything else? Like ls on the devices?
[23:37] <mDemocritus> ls /dev/sd* only shows my internal drive
[23:37] <e345> i need assistance getting video to play on my external VGA port from my laptop
[23:38] <soundray> mDemocritus: is there anything else in the logs?
[23:38] <nitromaster> exit
[23:38] <soundray> mDemocritus: if the devices are created at first and then removed, there should be something reported in dmesg
[23:38] <marlon__> could anyone possible give me a hand? my laptop ubuntu has stopped booting :(
[23:38] <mDemocritus> soundray: i've checked messages, syslog, they don't show anything... dmesg is the only thing that shows anything, but no errors
[23:40] <e345> anyone know how to get an eternal VGA port to work in Ubuntu?
[23:40] <soundray> mDemocritus: have you got other mass storage devices, and do they work?
[23:41] <sageb1> tmcfulton: this fix might work: http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.12.30/intel-945-video-hint/
[23:41] <chickenFuego> e345, yes, for an ati card on laptop..
[23:41] <Ezra> marlon__ what error message-------error 15?
[23:41] <sageb1> if you aren't squeamish about using nano from bash
[23:41] <mDemocritus> soundray: yep, external hdd with ntfs and fat partitions works fine
[23:41] <dataangel> hmmm
[23:42] <soundray> mDemocritus: and have you tested the strangely behaving one with another distribution or OS?
[23:42] <mDemocritus> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59875/ here's the relevent dmesg output
[23:42] <dataangel> i am trying to convert a dvd to a .mp4 file for my sony walkman video player ???? any sugguestions
[23:42] <sageb1> marlon, can you boot up the liveCD?
[23:42] <dataangel> i have dvdrip
[23:42] <dataangel> but it does not do .mp4 files
[23:42] <marlon__> sageb1 yes i can
[23:42] <mDemocritus> soundray: yep... ubuntu dapper ppc on an old ibook, and knoppix on the same machine that i want it to work with
[23:42] <marlon__> ah im sorry, im being dragged away
[23:42] <dataangel> its supposed to like i-pod video files
[23:43] <marlon__> i'll be abck in about 20 mins
[23:43] <mDemocritus> soundray: same thing
[23:43] <dataangel> oh yeah i installed automatix
[23:43] <marlon__> it started by reading my hard drive a really lot, and slowing down my comp to the point where i had to hard reset it
[23:43] <dataangel> 2 that is
[23:43] <soundray> mDemocritus: "Buffer I/O error on device sdb" sounds like an error message to me...
[23:43] <marlon__> and now it wont boot anymore, after acpi services the screen goes blank, and the hard drive light stays on solid :(
[23:43] <mDemocritus> soundray: that's after i pull the usb cable
[23:43] <skrimpy> can anyone help me figure out why there is no user list displaying in xchat?
[23:43] <marlon__> anwyay, back in 20, appreciate any ideas you guys might have then!
[23:45] <dataangel> i am going to try to get it to play a divx5 file, i dont expect to get anywhere though
[23:45] <mDemocritus> soundray: not that it matters, but the machine i want to get this to work with is running ubuntu studio, and the device is a Zoom HD16 multitrack recorder
[23:45] <rsp> anton090: :)
[23:45] <anton090> tja
[23:46] <mDemocritus> soundray: and it SAYS it's mass storage class compatible
[23:46] <skrimpy> running on Feisty and have XChat (not xchat-gnome) and my user list is missing completely
[23:46] <tux97> hello i'm having trouble connecting to my network on this laptop  every other computer is fine what can i do?
[23:46] <sageb1> dataangel: have u tried handbrake: http://handbrake.fr/
[23:46] <mirrorcolor> how to mount a new partition so ordinary users can write permission to it?
[23:47] <dataangel> not yet, i shall have a look though
[23:47] <mDemocritus> soundray: you know if there's any way for dmesg to be more verbose? or if there's any other usb diagnostics i can use? i tried lsusb, but it gave me the same info that dmesg did
[23:47] <soundray> mDemocritus: from the dmesg messages it appears that it is, but if the devices vanish without a trace...
[23:48] <billy1> what can i do to check if all my broadcom drivers are running?
[23:48] <ethand_> billy:  run lspci in a terminal
[23:48] <mDemocritus> soundray: that's why i'm so confused
[23:48] <soundray> mDemocritus: I know you've tried syslog, but I always do a 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and observe what is logged while I plug a problem device
[23:48] <billy1> ethand_: what do i look for?
[23:49] <ethand_> lspci | grep broadcom
[23:49] <billy1> ethand_: will you look at a paste of it for me?
[23:49] <soundray> ethand_: that won't tell anything about the drivers and firmware
[23:49] <mDemocritus> soundray: yeah... syslog didn't show anything at all... it was odd
[23:49] <ethand_> if its working it will show there. thats what it sound like he wanted to check....?
[23:50] <soundray> ethand_: billy1 said "drivers" not "hardware"
[23:50] <J-a-k-e> hello all does anyone know why sound in ubuntu just doesn't sound as good as sound in windows for me
[23:50] <billy1> drivers and firmware
[23:51] <mDemocritus> soundray: i'll give that a shot when i'm at the machine... is there any way to tail -f the dmesg log?
[23:51] <billy1> i want to check which drivers and firmare are loaded and what is not
[23:51] <ethand_> if firmware is working it will be in pci. if drivers not working, you dont have network
[23:51] <soundray> mDemocritus: tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[23:51] <billy1> ethand: im trying to get my bcm4311 working.. right now im connected thru the wire
[23:51] <mDemocritus> soundray: wow i can't believe i missed that lol
[23:52] <ethand_> billyl - gutsy?
[23:52] <billy1> ethand yep
[23:52] <billy1> where do i go for compiz help?
[23:52] <sageb1> dataangel, the fix is to convert dvd to mpg and use ffmpeg to convert to mp4
[23:52] <soundray> billy1: to see what drivers are loaded, use lsmod. Firmware-related messages should be in /var/log/syslog. I can't tell you what to look for specifically in a broadcom device
[23:53] <sageb1> something like in http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DVD_to_MP4
[23:53] <mDemocritus> soundray: but that'll give me the same info... can i increase the verbosity of the dmesg log?
[23:53] <ethand_> have you looked under 'restricted driver manager' ?  because gutsy has firmware support for broadcom now but it defaults to restricted drivers..you can enable it first
[23:53] <beargins> hello
[23:53] <mDemocritus> soundray: or is there a log for hald?
[23:53] <billy1> ethand_: thats how i enabled the drivers, but for some reason my wireless still isnt working
[23:53] <Reng> is there a program that allows you to password your folder??
[23:53] <soundray> mDemocritus: I don't know
[23:54] <mDemocritus> soundray: rats... any other ideas?
[23:55] <mDemocritus> soundray: eventually i'll get a windows machine over there to test it with, but i was really hoping to avoid that... if it works on windows but not linux i'm outta luck
[23:55] <soundray> mDemocritus: ask the manufacturer?
[23:55] <mirrorcolor> how to mount a new partition so ordinary users can have write permission to it?
[23:55] <mDemocritus> soundray: hah the moment i mention linux they'll laugh and hang up lol
[23:55] <sageb1> billy1, you have tried suggestions like firmware method or ndiswrapper method?
[23:55] <ygorabreu_br_spa> billy1:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:55] <mDemocritus> soundray: of course, i suppose i could try....
[23:55] <billy1> sageb1: yes, and i have looked at that d*** wifi docs page sooooooo many times
[23:55] <ethand_> billyl:  i got my bcom working with ndiswrapper -yes
[23:56] <billy1> ethand: ndiswrapper never worked for me
[23:56] <billy1> ethand: can you direct me to the page that told you how to do it?
[23:56] <sageb1> billy1, i had a client who basically ordered a non broadcom pcmcia card and solved his problem
[23:57] <sageb1> which threw out a weeks worth of help
[23:57] <ygorabreu_br_spa> i could only be able to get my broadcom working by usin' wifidocs+ndiswrapper
[23:57] <stevendemorez> is there such a thing as a v4l2 library to download?
[23:57] <soundray> mDemocritus: manufacturers of niche stuff such as media are usually more flexible than the ones who produce for the broad mass market
[23:57] <tmcfulton> sageb1: no, it didn't work
[23:57] <sageb1> tmcfulton, hm
[23:58] <billyguitarhero> anyways after my comp rudely disconnected me
[23:58] <soundray> mDemocritus: I bet they are aware of Ubuntu Studio as well
[23:58] <ygorabreu_br_spa> billy1:u know the specifications of ur device? by lspci?
[23:58] <ethand_> billyl - yes - give me a moment to find
[23:58] <mDemocritus> soundray: good god i hope so... the hd16 is so effing cool, it'd be so much better if i could pull wavs straight off it
[23:59] <soundray> mDemocritus: well, I hope you find a way
[23:59] <asker> hi someone knows how i can change a pdf document title? not the file name!!!
[23:59] <billyguitarhero> ygorabreu_br_spa: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59876/


[19:54] <ziviani> hello everybody! I'd like to cherry-pick the commit 460df4c1f (KVM: race-free exit from KVM_RUN without POSIX signals) into zesty (master-next)
[19:54] <ziviani> but such commit changes arch/mips/kvm/mips.c, which leads to a huge amount of files to be ported
[19:56] <ziviani> AFAIK, Ubuntu doesn't support MIPS so I don't know if it's worth, what do you guys recommend?
[21:29] <cascardo> ziviani: then, you can try a backport that does not include those changes, and document it in your sru request, then cross your fingers that reviewers will ack it  :-)
[21:32] <ziviani> cascardo: I hope they do, otherwise it will be more than 50 commits (MIPS) to be send :-D
[21:33] <ziviani> cascardo: thanks for the hint, I'll do it!