[12:00] <ompaul> Coag, please paste the output of the following two commands into paste.ubuntu-nl.org >>sudo fdisk -l<< >>mount <<
[12:00] <graft> simian__: are you viewing the php file directly, or is it being served by apache or something?
[12:00] <Coag> good
[12:00] <richard> ok .... i got "terminal open
[12:00] <Coag> ok
[12:00] <simian__> graft: directly
[12:00] <richard> so i type 'cat /etc/fstab
[12:01] <rpdjames> Brand new user, brand new install, had to do the VESA thing to get into xserver as my ati x850 isn't being recognized or something
[12:01] <graft> simian__: yeah that ain't going to work... php has to be interpreted by your webserver in order to function
[12:01] <kayde> Coag, umm ok...
[12:01] <rpdjames> there are two different ways to install the ati drivers per the ubuntu wiki site
[12:02] <WiseOdd> hi ppl. where should i look for a ... "Linux Newbie user manual"? I'm feeling pretty lost, this being the first time EVER having instaled any form of Linux, and substituting windows completely....
[12:02] <simian__> graft: ok thanks, so I should move it to /var/www and look at local host in a browser then?
[12:02] <ompaul> rpdjames, well give us the two urls please
[12:02] <graft> simian__: yeah that'll work
[12:02] <simian__> graft: thanks
[12:02] <graft> simian__: assuming your webserver is configured to deal with php
[12:02] <invitadinho> WiseOdd  try www.easylinux.info
[12:02] <ompaul> !cli
[12:02] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[12:02] <ompaul> WiseOdd, ^^^^^^^
[12:02] <richiefrich> WiseOdd   http://ubuntuguide.org/
[12:02] <WiseOdd> thx. will do :)
[12:02] <simian__> graft: lol i'll cross that bridge when i get there
[12:02] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[12:02] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[12:03] <WiseOdd> thx. all
[12:03] <richiefrich> ompaul how are u today
[12:03] <Coag> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14807 << ompaul
[12:03] <ompaul> richiefrich, having bundles of fun
[12:03] <kayde> Coag, it says, no such directory exists...
[12:04] <richiefrich> ompaul i couldnt get that FTP server to start for that dude yesterday if wasnt in ps -A  :(
[12:04] <kayde> Coag, i have dowloaded gimpshop, photoshop interface but i cant get it to work...
[12:04] <Coag> I don't know about that kayde
[12:05] <rpdjames> Ok, the first would be here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  the second is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver
[12:05] <TheBigToe> !RestrictedFormats
[12:05] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:05] <rpdjames> then of course, you have ati'
[12:06] <rpdjames> then of course, you have ati's instructions for their drivers, so that's a third way
[12:06] <corey> just upgraded to dapper - very nice
[12:06] <richard> help
[12:06] <ompaul> Coag, there is only one other think I could suggest, restart the machine with a plan to plug it into some other usb port it might help
[12:06] <richard> need to install some plugins for VideoLan
[12:06] <marzec> corey,  how can i upgrade to dapper from breezy?
[12:07] <graft> richard: you need to provide more detail, otherwise no one can help you
[12:07] <corey> marzec: one sec
[12:07] <Hentai_Jeff> anyone know what the best PCI usb 2.0 card for linux is?
[12:08] <corey> marzec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades?highlight=%28dapper%29
[12:08] <ompaul> rpdjames, okay thank you
[12:08] <kayde> Coag, :(
[12:08] <corey> for some reason my wireless interface is detected as "eth1"
[12:08] <Coag> ompaul: with a plan to plug it into another port?
[12:08] <rpdjames> ompaul, np
[12:08] <marzec> corey, thanks already found it. to much download volume needed for taht :) i'd just love to upgrade my 32-bit kernel to amd64 in breezy but nobody knows how :/
[12:09] <richard> damn
[12:09] <richard> ive done something
[12:09] <richard> Cannot launch entry error message
[12:09] <richard> Failed to change to director /home/richard (Permission denied
[12:11] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me
[12:11] <richard> I managed to access the other drive .... but in the process messed up access to the other one
[12:11] <AlfredJK> Hi there, i have a little problem... xorg and memory..
[12:11] <TheBigToe> I've reinstalled the mozilla plugin, the blackdown installer and the normal java package
[12:11] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me
[12:11] <Jazznite> Good Day to All
[12:11] <AlfredJK> here is the result opt de 'top' commando.    8849 root      15   0 1612m 699m 1352 S  3.5 69.3  29:59.43 Xorg
[12:12] <AlfredJK> and 25742 root      15   0 1438m 620m 3828 S  3.0 61.4  38:15.68 Xorg
[12:12] <sflash> for some reason my user doesnt have access to sudo
[12:12] <sflash> and also i noticed that all my groups i belong to are all gone
[12:12] <AlfredJK> 1500 mbye of ram for xorg is a little too much..
[12:12] <squiddle> AlfredJK  no
[12:12] <octan> hi all..
[12:12] <octan> im having some problems.
[12:13] <Jazznite> Any one to help, I have conflict whit DVD, ant Tip??
[12:13] <octan> my disks keep falling out after a while
[12:13] <octan> i mean like dissapare
[12:13] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me. I've reinstalled the mozilla plugin, the blackdown installer and the normal java package but it still won't work
[12:13] <octan> i need to power off.
[12:13] <sflash> anyone have any idea what happened or how i can get back into all the groups i was in?
[12:13] <octan> then,, not even bios finds then
[12:13] <Godfather--> hello
[12:13] <AlfredJK> to: squiddle   no ?!
[12:13] <octan> if i have my pc off for 2-3 min,, and power up again
[12:13] <squiddle> AlfredJK  those numbers are coffe-guessed and include for example all the mapped files since process start
[12:13] <octan> they come back
[12:13] <octan> what might be wrong?
[12:13] <Godfather--> i cant install the nvidia driver, in fact, i cant set up the xserver without vesa
[12:14] <richard> help!!
[12:14] <corey> is it ok for my wireless interface to be detected as eth1?
[12:14] <richard> i cannot access drives
[12:14] <octan> im suspecting the mobo ide controller
[12:14] <marzec> could someone try this: apt-cache search linux-amd64-k8 and send me his /etc/apt/sources.list file via pastebin if this spit out a result? pretty please with a cherry on top :)
[12:14] <rpdjames> I'm right there with ya Godfather, but I'm on the ATI end
[12:14] <FeestBijtje> any one knows how to mount trough FSTAB an new hard drive its an EXT3 Partition 80GB
[12:14] <richard> i go to sysem
[12:14] <trpr42> corey: should be perfectly fine.. alot of people like having it named wlan0 but it doesn't really matter
[12:14] <richard> disks
[12:14] <richard> and it says cannot lauch entry
[12:14] <AlfredJK> to squiddle: and the command 'free' gives a swap partion of 900Mbyte: 100 of less free ! with 5.10 there was no problem
[12:14] <Jazznite> I can have the screen of the DVD any tip??
[12:14] <corey> well it was wlan0 til i upgraded to dapper
[12:15] <ompaul> !xgl
[12:15] <ubotu> xgl is, like, totally, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[12:15] <ompaul> *** note URL CHANGE for xgl ***
[12:15] <Coag> ompaul
[12:15] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me. I've reinstalled the mozilla plugin, the blackdown installer and the normal java package but it still won't work
[12:15] <Coag> I don't understand what you meant, reboot with it plugged in?
[12:15] <ompaul> Coag, no, reboot, with it plugged out (the mp3) player
[12:15] <Chri[s] > how do i run gphoto2
[12:16] <squiddle> AlfredJK  hmm do you have any problems? like a lot of swapping?
[12:16] <richard> HELP
[12:16] <FeestBijtje> any one knows how to mount trough FSTAB an new hard drive its an EXT3 Partition 80GB
[12:16] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me. I've reinstalled the mozilla plugin, the blackdown installer and the normal java package but it still won't work, anyone know what I should do to get it working?
[12:16] <richard> ive managed to lock my self out of menus
[12:16] <ompaul> Chri[s] , you need to isntall it, you need universe repos for this
[12:17] <Godfather--> "Error : API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7174, but this x module has the version 1.0-7667. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version" i get this error
[12:17] <AlfredJK> yes.. after 1.5 - 2 days xorg is freezing for 5 - 10 seconds and going on and the system is very slow
[12:17] <Chri[s] > ompaul, i have it installed gphoto2 in console just prints out a menu
[12:17] <Jazznite> any help on DVD's???please
[12:18] <Godfather--> hello ?
[12:18] <squiddle> !tell FeestBijtje partitions
[12:18] <squiddle> !partitions
[12:18] <ubotu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[12:18] <graft> Jazznite: what are you trying to do?
[12:18] <graft> richard: just reboot, man
[12:18] <richard> ok
[12:19] <trpr42> Godfather--: you need help interpreting the error? nvidia driver is composed of a kernel module and some userspace stuff... error is stelling you that the two parts are not the same version.. as if you got them from two different sources
[12:19] <protito> hi, can someone help me with the sound on via 3285?
[12:19] <TheBigToe>  Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me. I've reinstall ed the mozilla plugin, the blackdown inst aller and the n ormal java package but it still won't work, anyone know what I should d o to get it working?
[12:19] <Jazznite> graft i have conflict whit medeia 10 and the other program, and NO DVD
[12:19] <ompaul> Chri[s] , that is what it is supposed to do, your looking for a gui front end?
[12:19] <graft> Jazznite: um, that makes no sense to me at all...
[12:19] <sflash> anyway to rollback my ubuntu server? my user cant sudo anymore and my groups dissapeared
[12:20] <TheBigToe> will anyone help me?
[12:20] <Chri[s] > ompaul, yes
[12:20] <Jazznite> well the screen shows but in a moment  quits
[12:20] <sflash> is there anyway i can login as root?
[12:20] <TheBigToe> will ANYone help me?
[12:20] <LeoStewart> Does anyone know why ubuntu doesn't detect my floppy drive?
[12:20] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, I'm having some issues trying to get the ubuntu updates to run at a certain time.  I'm using the "at" command to set it to run at 1am , but it doesn't seem to be working.  I run the command "at 1am -f timedupdates" where timedupdates just contains the line apt-get update
[12:20] <LeoStewart> it's the only thing ubuntu hasn't detected...
[12:21] <Kyral> LeoStewart: you have the cable in upside down?
[12:21] <graft> Jazznite: can you start from the very beginning? what screen? where? what DVD? are you playing it somewhere? with what? etc.
[12:21] <Kyral> <[12:21] <TheBigToe> Will anyone help me with this I need it really badu
[12:21] <RemyLaptop> does anyone have any ideas, or any suggestions for how I can troubleshoot why it's not actually updating ?
[12:21] <TheBigToe> ?
[12:21] <LeoStewart> Kyral: well, windowsXP detected the floppy drive perfectly.
[12:21] <Godfather--> trpr42, what should i do ?
[12:21] <Kyral> LeoStewart: dunnot hen
[12:21] <TheBigToe> anyone?
[12:21] <ompaul> Chri[s] , back in two minutes need to check a web page
[12:21] <LeoStewart> Kyral oh well, thanks.
[12:22] <Jazznite> Ok the DVD media 10 dont show the screen command
[12:22] <TheBigToe> any one help Me?
[12:22] <Godfather--> trpr42, i dl the lastest version from nvidia.com and it was installed ok (1.0-8762)
[12:22] <Godfather--> but when i try startx the error appears
[12:22] <TheBigToe> anyone help me please?
[12:22] <Jazznite> and the DVD are clean
[12:22] <sybariten> hm, anybody know any video-related channels on this network ?
[12:22] <TheBigToe> ANYONE help me please?
[12:22] <RemyLaptop> TheBigToe - you're much more likely to get help by waiting than by spamming...
[12:22] <trpr42> Godfather--: that is odd.. so you installed the driver.. you rebooted and you get that error?
[12:22] <graft> Jazznite: are you sure you shouldn't be in another language channel? if your english is not so good
[12:22] <TheBigToe> I've waited all day
[12:23] <Godfather--> trpr42, yes
[12:23] <RemyLaptop> !tell TheBigToe about java
[12:23] <Jazznite> upps sorry, any spanish??
[12:23] <RemyLaptop> have you read that page ?
[12:23] <RemyLaptop> !tell Jazznite about es
[12:23] <Godfather--> trpr42, will u like to try via ssh ?
[12:23] <TheBigToe> !javadebs
[12:23] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[12:23] <graft> !es
[12:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:24] <Godfather--> im afraid i cant install it
[12:24] <trpr42> Godfather--: how did you install? you used a package / apt-get, or you fetched the driver and compiled it yourself?
[12:24] <TheBigToe> RemyLaptop, I've downloaded 1.4
[12:24] <trpr42> Godfather--: no thanks. i don't even trust myself. i wouldn't trust anyone on irc with that if i were you
[12:24] <Harold_P> Rapidshare sucks. :(
[12:24] <Godfather--> trpr42, i dl a .run, sh nvidia*.run and then i reboot
[12:24] <ompaul> Chri[s] , I can't one for gnome but there is this: kamera it is going to install a fair bit of stuff but it should end up on your menu and be handy enough to use
[12:25] <Jazznite> Merci to all!!
[12:25] <richiefrich> Godfather-- u can do it really simple -->  make a user account for someone and tell them to screen then u screen -x  and watch what they do
[12:25] <richiefrich> Godfather-- that why u see all what they do :~)
[12:25] <Godfather--> richiefrich,  :) and another option is vnc i think
[12:26] <Godfather--> but my driver nvidia doesnt work very well xD
[12:26] <protito> sound via 8235??? someone?? help pls
[12:26] <richiefrich> Godfather-- u dont want vnc, not like that
[12:27] <Godfather--> richiefrich, if you connect via ssh to my pc, i put screen -x i'll what you're typing ?
[12:28] <david__> join<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:28] <MetaMorfoziS> good night all [kshutdown @ 20min]
[12:28] <Harold_P> lol.
[12:29] <richiefrich> Godfather-- if u have screen installed then u can attach to there session
[12:29] <motin> hey, is it possible to ignore a broken package? It is ntp-server that cannot be uninstalled and is thus broken, and this has me not being able to install or update _any_ packages for some reason..
[12:29] <Godfather--> whats 'screen' ? a package ?
[12:30] <marzec> hm i just downloaded the package by hand and tried to install it
[12:30] <marzec> linux-amd64-k8 that is
[12:30] <ollo82> is there a history about the things apt do?
[12:30] <richiefrich> Godfather-- yes
[12:31] <marzec> with the result that dpkg told me to fuck of cause the package architecture (amd64) is different from the installed architecture ( i386 ), so... how could i upgrade from i368 to amd64?
[12:31] <Anusien> mumbles: are you on dapper or breezy?
[12:31] <Jazznite> kubuntu_es
[12:31] <sflash> anyway to give me back my sudo power?
[12:31] <sflash> i cant run sudo
[12:31] <richiefrich> Godfather--   u  can test it -->  screen -> in another term -> screen -x
[12:31] <graft> marzec: clearly, you should get the i386 version of the package, eh
[12:31] <richiefrich> sflash what u do to sudo ?
[12:32] <Marcus> hi can someone help me with dvd playback/
[12:32] <richiefrich> sflash can u get root access at all?
[12:32] <motin> ollo82: yeah there is, it is somewhere under /var i think
[12:32] <Godfather--> richiefrich, i see :) n1 :D
[12:32] <sflash> richiefrich: nothing, i created a ftp-users group, added my self to it, then all my group dissapeared i was joined to
[12:32] <ollo82> if found it, thx
[12:32] <marzec> graft,  the problem is there does not seem to be such a package. all i want to do is upgrade my i386 kernel to a amd64 one
[12:32] <marzec> which seems to be impossible...
[12:32] <sflash> richiefrich: and i cant sudo
[12:33] <richiefrich> sflash u must of did something,  can u go back to a login screen and login as root
[12:33] <Godfather--> trpr42, any idea?
[12:33] <richiefrich> Ctrl+Alt+F2
[12:33] <sflash> richiefrich: it wont let me login as root
[12:33] <Marcus> do i need an internet connection to be able to install with sudo?
[12:33] <sflash> richiefrich: says access denied
[12:33] <richiefrich> sflash not in X
[12:33] <Marcus> everytime i try to install something it says cant find packages
[12:33] <richiefrich> sflash  i mean in console
[12:34] <LeoStewart> could someone please tell me how to make a floppy .img file?
[12:34] <sflash> richiefrich: im usiing putty right now on my laptop. should i go on the box and logout and login as root?
[12:34] <trpr42> Godfather--: well. i would try killing X / xdm if they are going.. try starting X with startx.. i'd check to there aren't any packaged versions of the driver installed... if so i'd remove them and then attempt to compile the driver again
[12:34] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, who do I suggest a feature for ubuntu to ?
[12:34] <graft> marzec: i assume you have a 64-bit machine
[12:34] <sflash> richiefrich: my box is text only, server installation
[12:34] <richiefrich> sflash yes but in console
[12:34] <Marcus> im not sure graft
[12:34] <trpr42> Godfather--: its a wierd error. never encountered it. i have always ended up solving my nvidia problems through painful trial and error :(
[12:34] <Marcus> its dell latitude d505
[12:35] <sflash> richiefrich: it is in console
[12:35] <Godfather--> trpr42, oks :(
[12:35] <richiefrich> sflash  ok then try to login as roolt
[12:36] <graft> err... Marcus i was talking to marzec ...
[12:36] <Marcus> yea my bad lol
[12:36] <trpr42> Godfather--: i believe its recommended that you use the packaged version anyways.. something about nvidias official version replacing libraries. in all cases i believe using the packaged version is recommended over what you are doing
[12:36] <kbrooks> What will Dapper have?
[12:36] <Marcus> can someone help me with dvd and video
[12:36] <sidewinder_> Alguien de Chile ?
[12:36] <Godfather--> trpr42, a packaged version is nvidia-glx ?
[12:36] <ompaul> !es
[12:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:36] <sidewinder_> quien habla espaol ?
[12:36] <marzec> graft, yes of course amd 64 :)
[12:36] <sflash> richiefrich: also says access denied
[12:36] <richiefrich> sflash  add this line to --> USER    ALL=(ALL) ALL  <-- too --> /etc/sudoers
[12:37] <richiefrich> sflash then do it on a LiveCD
[12:37] <trpr42> Godfather--: yes. something put together by the ubuntu team from what nvidia gives you
[12:37] <marzec> graft,  i just read that i'd have to basically install any 386 related package again with it's 64-bit version
[12:37] <sflash> richiefrich: i dont think i can edit that file, i dont have permission and sudo wont let me
[12:37] <marzec> to much of a hazzle
[12:37] <Godfather--> trpr42, doesnt work
[12:37] <mumbles--out> ok question - i have just installed ubuntu 5.10 on my desktop
[12:37] <richiefrich> sflash on a live CD u do
[12:37] <Godfather--> trpr42, i think the problem is the fucking dapper drake
[12:37] <mumbles--out> and my spash screen dosent get past boot
[12:37] <sidewinder_> quien habla espaol ?
[12:37] <Godfather--> on previusly versions i have no problems
[12:37] <Kyral> !es
[12:37] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:37] <mumbles--out> i have installed the nvidia driver as well so i relay dot know whats up
[12:38] <sidewinder_> mm?
[12:38] <sflash> richiefrich: ok, i have to burn a ubuntu live cd?
[12:38] <bobbyd> hi
[12:38] <richiefrich> sflash use any liveCD
[12:38] <Godfather--> mumbles--out, on dapper ?
[12:38] <sflash> richiefrich: I just have the installation breezy badger one
[12:38] <mumbles--out> i guess so
[12:38] <Godfather--> from nvidia.com ?
[12:38] <mumbles--out> i had my ubuntu cds come yesterday
[12:38] <bobbyd> is there some app that will draw an ER graph of an SQL schema in the repositories?
[12:38] <mumbles--out> Godfather-- from apt-get install
[12:38] <trpr42> Godfather--: is nvidia-glx installed? if you are compiling from nvidia, that is the first thing you want to remove
[12:38] <richiefrich> sflash i like knoppix for most of that, or the gentoo one, it doesnt have X (gentoo on)
[12:39] <flaek> can someone help me get my wireless card working, i did iwconfig and wifi0 and wlan0 comes up but wlan0 has more information, do i use that? then i did iwlist wlan0 scan and nothing came up
[12:39] <mumbles--out> i used http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#nvidia-driver
[12:39] <Godfather--> trpr42, i tried with/without this package
[12:39] <Godfather--> mumbles--out, let me see that link, 1 moment
[12:39] <sflash> richiefrich: what will the knoppix let me do? I can add user groups to my account then?
[12:40] <richiefrich> sflash same as any of them u can edit that file
[12:40] <sflash> richiefrich: also root account has only root as grooup
[12:40] <Godfather--> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
[12:40] <Godfather-->   nvidia-glx: Entra en conflicto: nvidia-settings pero 1.0-3ubuntu7 va a ser instalado
[12:40] <sflash> ok
[12:40] <trpr42> Godfather--: maybe it will be fixed in a week. optimisitc
[12:40] <corey> can someone help me, i upgraded to dapper and now network-manager wont show my wireless device
[12:40] <Godfather--> i dont think so
[12:41] <mumbles--out> trpr42 same
[12:41] <mumbles--out> hahah
[12:41] <RemyLaptop> !gaim
[12:41] <ubotu> methinks gaim is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[12:41] <mumbles--out> lots of nvida questions here :p
[12:41] <Godfather--> or my nvidia 6800gs its not supported.
[12:42] <trpr42> Godfather--: you said previous installations of the driver were working.. couldn't be that
[12:42] <flaek> can someone help me get my wireless card working, i did iwconfig and wifi0 and wlan0 comes up but wlan0 has more information, do i use that? then i did iwlist wlan0 scan and nothing came up
[12:42] <Godfather--> trpr42, yes, but on hoary and breezy, not on dapper
[12:43] <ompaul> corey, please go to #ubuntu+1 the dapper channel
[12:43] <Marcus> does anyone know how to install a highspeed dsl modem on usb?
[12:43] <richard> hey
[12:43] <flaek> anyone willing to help me ^^
[12:43] <Marlun> where is apache2 isntalled by default if you use apt-get?
[12:43] <Marcus> or ethernet
[12:43] <richard> im struggling with gaining access to slave disk
[12:43] <richard> i can find it with disk manager
[12:43] <ttjdfhwwnn> u
[12:44] <richard> but i dont know what to set it as with access path
[12:44] <richard> every time i mess with it i lock myself out of the system
[12:44] <gambit> /dev/hdb?
[12:44] <sflash> richiefrich: so when i pop in a livecd, i actually boot to my box as admin? that would be rad. I need to put all my groups back. anycommand that will list all the groups on the system?
[12:45] <ompaul> Marlun, this is what you asked but I think you want to actually ask another question: /usr/sbin/apache2 : maybe the answer to the other one is /etc/apache2 or /var/www/
[12:45] <richard> /dev/hdb1
[12:45] <richard> thats the device
[12:45] <richiefrich> sflash no just edit the file
[12:45] <Marlun> ompaul: yeah thank, I just found it myself :)
[12:45] <graft> richard: where are you mounting it?
[12:45] <richiefrich> sflash /etc/group
[12:45] <richard> well i put in /
[12:46] <richard> in access path
[12:46] <sflash> richiefrich: thanks dude
[12:46] <richard> it says accessible ..... but i cant find files
[12:46] <richiefrich> sflash np
[12:46] <richard> i can browse them
[12:46] <mumbles> i cant get my graphics card working
[12:46] <richard> but i want an easy way to access them from desktop
[12:46] <mutante> richard: you should not mount to / :p
[12:47] <richard> ok
[12:47] <richard> so mount to where then
[12:47] <Marcus> whenever i run sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 it gives me "libdvdcss2 has  no installation canidate"
[12:47] <mutante> richard: that is like if you connected a new disk in windows and told it to be C:
[12:47] <salah> any idea to a good html/php editor?
[12:47] <Marcus> do i need to be connected to the internet?
[12:47] <richard> ok ..... so mount it as what
[12:47] <mutante> richard: to any directory you want in theory, usually people create a directory in /mnt/
[12:47] <richard> all i know is that the device is /dev/hdb1
[12:48] <richard> no file in mind
[12:48] <sflash> sudo useradd -g ftp-users -d /home/ftp-docs siavash
[12:48] <richard> i just want to access it like with windows
[12:48] <sflash> thats what i did
[12:48] <richard> create a short cut to desktop
[12:48] <mutante> richard: mkdir /mnt/anythingyouwant
[12:48] <sflash> it gave me an error, user exists, but my groups were gone
[12:48] <mutante> richard: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/anythingyouwant
[12:48] <richard> via diskmanager?
[12:48] <richard> access path
[12:49] <richard> or via terminal
[12:49] <sflash> i probably shouldve used usermod command, i didnt know what i was doing. I cant believe that would kill my groups though
[12:49] <mutante> both would work
[12:49] <mutante> just make a directory first as mountpoint
[12:49] <mutante> and then choose that
[12:49] <RemyLaptop> hey hi guys, how can I check what processes are running on the system ?
[12:50] <graft> RemyLaptop: top, or ps
[12:50] <corey> can someone help me figure out why my wifi interface isnt showing up in networkmanager?
[12:50] <corey> it worked before i upgraded to dapper
[12:51] <odat> whats the page where i can get a default repos list
[12:51] <graft> corey: is the interface recognized at all by the system? like is it in 'iwconfig'?
[12:51] <Mysta_> hey guys, is there a way to find out what all the available groups (for permissions) are via the terminal????
[12:52] <corey> yep
[12:52] <GMullen> why wont vim let me edit
[12:52] <odat>  whats the page where i can get a default repos list
[12:52] <richiefrich> GMullen it will
[12:52] <Mysta_> GMullen: what are you trying 2 edit?
[12:52] <Anusien> GMullen: is it a read-only file?  Are you in insert mode?
[12:52] <mutante> Mysta_: alll the groups the current user is in: type "groups"
[12:52] <GMullen> from root    vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:53] <GMullen> no i'm not in insert mode
[12:53] <mutante> Mysta_: or all groups that exist ? cat /etc/group
[12:53] <Anusien> You have to get into insert mode to add text
[12:53] <Mysta_> mutante: thx
[12:53] <GMullen> how do i switch to insert mode
[12:53] <Anusien> GMullen: Open up vi and type :tutorial
[12:53] <Mysta_> !vim
[12:53] <ubotu> I guess vim is A great text editor, some would say the best. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VimHowto
[12:54] <scottdotmaccallu> emacs has a nice turorial
[12:54] <roast> !emacs
[12:54] <ubotu> hmm... emacs is a text editor made by GNU. Some praise it as the world's best
[12:54] <lewix> how can I know if my computer has blutooh
[12:54] <corey> graft: it shows up as 'eth1' just not in network-manager
[12:54] <roast> ...
[12:54] <roast> some? :P
[12:54] <odat>  whats the page where i can get a default repos list
[12:54] <Mysta_> lewix: ask your manufacturer
[12:54] <Anusien> lewix: you mean bluetooth?
[12:54] <mumbles> ok - my computers freazing pass boot
[12:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell odat about sources
[12:55] <gnomefreak> odat: your pm will have them in it
[12:55] <lewix> Anusien, yep my bad
[12:55] <lewix> Mysta_, :)
[12:55] <mumbles> i have installed nvida drivers but they dont work
[12:56] <mutante> lewix: search for the term in the output of "lspci" maybe
[12:56] <Anusien> mumbles: What version of Ubuntu, what version of the drivers, what chip are you running, what architecture are you running?
[12:56] <mumbles> 5.10 - the drivers from apt-get update nvida-common
[12:57] <lewix> mutante, thanks
[12:57] <mumbles> geforce 6800 i think
[12:57] <Anusien> mumbles: I think you want: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:57] <joemac> hi all
[12:57] <HiHello> I had the same problem,try the vesa in reconfigure xorg etc
[12:57] <HiHello> Mumbles
[12:57] <mumbles> i cant get into the user window to do that
[12:58] <HiHello> YOu get the garbage display?
[12:59] <jorvis_> just installed ubuntu for the first time (5.10 amd64), what package is 'ld' in?
[12:59] <mumbles> i get the fuzzy pattern and thats it
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[12:59] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[12:59] <HiHello> You can get there mumbles
[12:59] <Marcus> why when i run sudo apt-get install does it give me  "couldnt find packages"
[12:59] <HiHello> I cant remeber how though
[01:00] <Marcus> do i need to connect to the internet to install ?
[01:00] <hollerith> jorvis_: can you get 64bit ubuntu?
[01:00] <mumbles> i booted up in safe mode
[01:00] <lewix> i want my desktop to look awsome ..do you have suggestions?
[01:00] <jorvis_> hollerith: it's on their site, yes
[01:00] <hollerith> fvwm
[01:00] <skippy> lewix: xgl/compiz
[01:00] <lewix> skippy, meaning?
[01:00] <Marcus> do you mean like a background lewix
[01:00] <ompaul> !compiz
[01:00] <ubotu> Compiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.
[01:00] <hollerith> jorvis_:sweet!
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  seek professional help.
[01:01] <skippy> you get some amazing effects lewiz
[01:01] <hollerith> I notice ubuntu is one of the first distros to offer xorg 7 too!
[01:01] <hollerith> jelly windows!
[01:01] <lewix> Marcus, yep
[01:01] <skippy> i recommend you start by searching the ubuntu forums lewix
[01:01] <Marcus> www.deviantart.com lewix
[01:01] <LeoStewart> could someone tell me how to make a disk image file out of my floppy?
[01:01] <LeoStewart> please?
[01:01] <Marcus> they have alot of sweet backgrounds
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> dd if=/dev/floppy of=floppy.img
[01:02] <lewix> thank you Marcus
[01:02] <lewix> thank you skippy
[01:02] <skippy> gnome-look.org is good also
[01:02] <skippy> loads of premade themes
[01:02] <LeoStewart> dr_willis: thanks. :)
[01:02] <Marcus> my background is Devil_by_SphinxSfenks
[01:02] <skippy> when you get more comfortable, then move onto xgl/compiz, you will need a fairly modern gfx card though
[01:02] <jorvis_> after a new install, is it best to grab vid drivers from Nvidia?
[01:03] <Harold_P> www.art.gnome.org
[01:03] <Marcus> can someone help me get totem working
[01:03] <Marcus> it says i need to install plugins and codecs to get video
[01:03] <jorvis_> Harold_P: that url doesn't work
[01:03] <skippy> jorvis_, are you on dapperdrake?
[01:03] <jorvis_> skippy: 5.10
[01:03] <Marcus> but sudo apt-get install always gives me a "cant find packages"
[01:03] <lewix> Marcus, I couldnt get it to work so I abandonned and I installed mplayer
[01:04] <Marcus> how do you lewix
[01:04] <LeoStewart> dr_willis: it didn't seem to work.  /dev/floppy isn't a directory.  and when i tried /media/floppy and /media/floppy0, the .img file was 0 bytes.
[01:04] <Marcus> can you help me
[01:04] <LeoStewart> any suggestions?
[01:04] <Harold_P> jorvis: for some reason www. in front of the url makes it not load, just type art.gnome.org
[01:04] <Marcus> i want to be able to watch dvd
[01:04] <lewix> marcus: how do I what?
[01:04] <jorvis_> Marcus: use ogle
[01:04] <Marcus> install mplayer
[01:04] <Marcus> where can i get it?
[01:04] <hollerith> LeoStewart: yuo mean an iso?
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> LeoStewart,  /media/anything is NOT what you want - you want the actual device for the floppy
[01:04] <skippy> jorvis_ try method 1 in this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia+breezy
[01:04] <lewix> marcus: apt-get install mplayer
[01:05] <jorvis_> though I haven't got dvd playback to work well yet (just installed today)
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> LeoStewart,  look for like /dev/fd*
[01:05] <Marcus> i cant use apt-get
[01:05] <Marcus> i already tried install it
[01:05] <Marcus> but it gives me "cant find packages"
[01:05] <admiral_proFTW> use adpt
[01:05] <Marcus> or couldnt stat source package
[01:05] <admiral_proFTW> Adpt
[01:05] <LeoStewart> dr_willis will do. thanks.
[01:05] <admiral_proFTW> Marcus: open up adept or synaptic
[01:05] <Harold_P> jorvis_, did it work?
[01:05] <skippy> marcus, have you added extra repositories yet?
[01:05] <ryanr> how does one mount an ext3 partition as read/write for all users?
[01:06] <Marcus> the multiverse universe?
[01:06] <Marcus> i think so
[01:06] <jorvis_> Harold_P: did what work?
[01:06] <skippy> ok good
[01:06] <Marcus> im not sure though
[01:06] <skippy> synaptic is your best place to get started
[01:06] <Harold_P> jorvis_ art.gnome.org
[01:06] <jorvis_> ah, yes
[01:06] <Marcus> do i need an internet conenction to install packages?
[01:06] <Marcus> cause i dont have a modem for this laptop yet
[01:06] <skippy> yes marcus
[01:06] <hollerith> /dev/fd0 ususally to /mnt/floppy or ubuntu /media/somehting
[01:07] <skippy> but you can download them, but to do so you need to know the dependancys
[01:07] <Marcus> i have a dsl external modem that connects by ethernet or usb
[01:07] <hollerith> I can't believe people still use 3.5 inch
[01:07] <Marcus> but im not sure if i can get it working for ubuntu
[01:07] <admiral_proFTW> i do! how else can i transfer data?
[01:07] <skippy> ok marcus http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ has all the files stored
[01:07] <mutante> ryanr: by adding "users" and "rw"into the /etc/fstab line
[01:07] <skippy> you can transfer them on a pendrive or a cd, but its a real hassle
[01:07] <Marcus> which one do i get
[01:07] <mumbles> argh - nothing works
[01:08] <ryanr> mutante: thats what i thought, and tried..but I still get permission denied...
[01:08] <skippy> marcus remind me what you wanted to get working again pls
[01:08] <LeoStewart> Dr_Willis: worked like a charm, thanks mate! :)
[01:08] <ryanr> I will try again tho
[01:08] <Marcus> video
[01:08] <Marcus> mplayer
[01:08] <Marcus> i just want to watch dvd and video
[01:08] <admiral_proFTW> use a pen? how does that work?
[01:08] <skippy> ok are you using dapper or breezy?
[01:08] <Marcus> breezy i think
[01:08] <mutante> ryanr: even if the user is mouting it himself?
[01:08] <Marcus> im not real sure this is my first linux distro
[01:08] <skippy> marcus, hold tight ill link the names of the files for you
[01:08] <Marcus> k
[01:08] <Marcus> thanks
[01:08] <mutante> ryanr: users allows the user to mount it himself
[01:09] <ryanr> ah i see
[01:09] <lewix> Marcus, http://fsiu.uwc.ac.za/kinky/index.php?module=wiki&action=wikilink&pagename=MultimediaUbuntu#toc3
[01:09] <hollerith> not everybody is allowed to mount
[01:09] <admiral_proFTW> lol
[01:09] <blah> is there anyway to run wine from a user account?
[01:09] <admiral_proFTW> i'm mature
[01:09] <blah> i need to execute it from php
[01:09] <hollerith> mee too
[01:10] <swim> hey folks, does ubuntu use /usr/local for anything?
[01:10] <Marcus> should i just download them all lewix ?
[01:10] <ryanr> mutante: even if i mount it myself (no sudo) i still get a permission denied error when trying to create a file one it
[01:10] <hollerith> user local is a good place to ln -s stuff you want to be shared by users
[01:10] <Marcus> do i need to extract them to any specific folder?
[01:10] <mutante> ryanr: hmm, then you can still try to specify uid= and gid=
[01:10] <lewix> Marcus, just follow the instructions
[01:11] <ryanr> mutante: is this correct? /dev/hda7       /media/hda7     ext3    defaults,users,rw 0 0
[01:11] <hollerith> ubotu tell hollerith about ubotu
[01:11] <lewix> I'm looking for themes for my desktop not only wallpaper
[01:11] <admiral_proFTW> ryanr: sounds about right
[01:11] <Marcus> it comes with a few
[01:11] <Marcus> there not really great though
[01:11] <ryanr> admiral_proFTW: hmmm ok
[01:11] <Marcus> i just have human
[01:11] <AngryElf> guys, i'm trying to build xine-lib and xine-ui......and ./configure for xine-ui is complaining about a linking problem saying it can't find xine-lib  I added /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, but no luck, any ideas?
[01:11] <swim> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu uses /usr/local? at all??
[01:12] <mutante> ryanr: im not sure about the "defaults", might try just "rw,user" there
[01:12] <blah> is there anyway i can run wine from php?
[01:12] <Marcus> did you find a cool background lewix
[01:12] <lewix> Marcus, not really, I want a them actually
[01:13] <swim> Hello???
[01:13] <Marcus> i think human looks the best out of all the ones it came with
[01:13] <Codegen2> Does anybody know how to get glib workng from source on Ubuntu?
[01:13] <Marcus> http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1525/devilbysphinxsfenks8ix.jpg
[01:13] <Marcus> thats what i have as my background
[01:13] <admiral_proFTW> swim: probably
[01:13] <d00by> is anybody here good with gambas?
[01:13] <admiral_proFTW> or it wouldn't be included
[01:13] <Marcus> but altered a little
[01:13] <admiral_proFTW> Condegen2:
[01:14] <admiral_proFTW> open up the terminal
[01:14] <hollerith> swim:my /usr/local is full of stuff
[01:14] <admiral_proFTW> cd into the directory where the source is
[01:14] <admiral_proFTW> ./configure
[01:14] <ryanr> mutante: removing defaults didnt help...and i just get errors trying to use uid and gid
[01:14] <hollerith> such as /usr/local/bin
[01:14] <jorvis_> how do I restart and prevent X from starting?  I tried 'init 3' and nothing happened.  X just restarts when you kill it manually.
[01:14] <hollerith> muchos importante
[01:15] <blah> is there anyway i can run wine from php?
[01:15] <admiral_proFTW> so "cd /home/freddy/Desktop/glib"
[01:15] <blah> wine is owned under root , can i change that?
[01:15] <Marcus> lewix, do you have to be connected to the internet to install mplayer?
[01:16] <lewix> Marcus, I guess so
[01:16] <hollerith> swim:why do you ask - attempting some rash pruning?
[01:16] <Marcus> damn
[01:16] <mutante> ryanr: uhmm,i dont really know now, sry
[01:16] <Blissex> blah: sure you can, but you need to understand very carefully the UNIX security/protection model. There are a lot of papers on it.
[01:16] <blah> thats cool
[01:16] <blah> so how do i do it
[01:16] <hollerith> blah:when you say wine is owned under root what do you mean?
[01:16] <blah> i cant execute it from php
[01:17] <Lordthund> guys.. can somebody help me with downgrading mysql-server-5.0 to -4.1
[01:17] <hollerith> how did you get it?
[01:17] <swim> hollerith: I just know that a lot of other distros dont use it at all... and I had to alien an application which isnt available... and it installed itself in /usr/local...
[01:17] <Marcus> is there anyway i can get media/dvd without an internet connection
[01:18] <hollerith> swim:its a debian thing I'm sure lots of unices use different schemes
[01:18] <mutante> Marcus: yes, shipit.ubuntu.com
[01:18] <skippy> marcus, sorry im going through these but theres just too many dependancys
[01:18] <skippy> it will be a nightmare if i try and link them all for you
[01:18] <Marcus> i went and downloaded a bunch of files
[01:18] <Napoleon> can somebody give me an example scp syntax to copy from your pwd to another host
[01:18] <Marcus> but when i try to extract them it doesnt do anything
[01:19] <mumbles> im going to go to bed
[01:19] <ryanr> mutante: i just cheated and mounted the partition with sudo then made a 777 directory in it
[01:19] <mumbles> ill sort out dirvers tomow
[01:19] <mutante> Napoleon: scp somefile user@otherhost:/home/user/
[01:19] <skippy> marcus, to extract deb files you can put them all in your home directory, then open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:19] <hollerith> scp you@ip-address:path/to/files you@target-ipaddress:path/to/target
[01:19] <Napoleon> mutante: thanks
[01:20] <skippy> but they all have dependancys marcus, so you will be there all night
[01:20] <Pharaoh> Ubuntu's Ubiquity looks extremely similar to Anaconda
[01:20] <Marcus> so i have to get a modem then
[01:20] <maccam94> ugh, i've got problems getting an ethernet driver working right. the card uses tulip
[01:20] <skippy> there are only 4 meta packages needed, but each is made up of at least 6 smaller ones
[01:20] <mutante> ryanr: whatever works;)
[01:20] <Pharaoh> even the image placement is identical to latest anaconda
[01:20] <skippy> yeah marcus, im afraid linux isnt a friendly OS for people without net connections
[01:20] <skippy> :(
[01:21] <Marcus> i have a dsl external modem
[01:21] <mutante> Marcus: look at the link, they send you free CDs
[01:21] <skippy> oh, well do you have a lan card marcus
[01:21] <jorvis_> anyone know how to kill X so that it doesn't automatically restart?
[01:21] <Marcus> but im not sure how i would go about installing it
[01:21] <Marcus> or if it will even work on linux
[01:21] <Marcus> its a qwuest gt701
[01:21] <maccam94> i can get the interface up and everything, but i get all these tulip errors in dmesg and it can't ping or anything
[01:21] <Marcus> nope skippy
[01:21] <Marcus> nothing
[01:21] <Marcus> im completely net connectionless
[01:21] <hollerith> jorvis_:Ctrl_Alt-Backspace should kill your session
[01:22] <jorvis_> hollerith: yes, but it immediately restarts again
[01:22] <Marcus> could i use this dsl modem?
[01:22] <skippy> yeah, doesnt it have rectangular ethernet connections coming out of the back?
[01:22] <hollerith> jorvis_:any ideas why?
[01:22] <Marcus> yea
[01:22] <skippy> if it does you can just connect to it with a lan card
[01:22] <skippy> you would need a DSL connection of course:D
[01:22] <Marcus> it connects to the phone line
[01:23] <richiefrich> DSL ?   get cable
[01:23] <jorvis_> hollerith: that's always true with X by default.  same thing happens on my laptop (gentoo) and other desktop (suse)
[01:23] <duckdown> Hey all..  I know VNC programs are a dime a dozen now, but ive never used it too often..  I need something very easy that someone could run on his Windows box and I could control it via my ubuntu
[01:23] <skippy> ok marcus, well im looking at teh specs for your modem, it has ethernet output
[01:23] <skippy> built in routing
[01:23] <skippy> so you just need to get the ethernet card in your pc working and you should be sorted
[01:23] <BioVorE> duckdown: real vnc on windows work with krfb on linux (kubuntu)
[01:23] <skippy> does your pc have a network card in it ?
[01:24] <hollerith> jorvis_:no way- I use gentoo and it just bombs to the console - how do you start x?
[01:24] <Marcus> my notebook has an ethernet slot in the back
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> duckdown,  that would be most of them. :P for a vnc client/server on windows - i tend to use 'ultravnc'  it has some nice features. (windows only)
[01:24] <skippy> ok marcus, try typing ifconfig into a terminal windows
[01:24] <lewix> how can I install theme
[01:24] <Marcus> command not found
[01:25] <jorvis_> hollerith: if I ctrl-alt-bksp on my laptop it goes to the console for about 3 seconds before restarting.
[01:25] <duckdown> Dr_Willis> yeah I run ubuntu though, so how will i connect?  Also, one that is totally idiot-proof for the guy to set up on his windows would be good
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  depends on what its a theme for. :P ya can often open the theme manager program.. and just drag/drop the new theme to it.
[01:25] <skippy> "ifconfig" should definately be availiable on your version of ubuntu marcus
[01:25] <Marcus> i know
[01:25] <skippy> its a very basic command :D
[01:25] <Marcus> thats wierd
[01:25] <skippy> its strange
[01:25] <duckdown> BioVorE> I use gnome :(
[01:25] <hollerith> jorvis_:how do you start x? rc-update add xdm ?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> duckdown,  kde and gnome voth have their own vnc 'clients' i recall. (called somthing like remote desktop) -   Ultra vnc is rathe reasy to set up on windows..   about as easy as any of them
[01:26] <jorvis_> hollerith: gdm, but yes
[01:26] <hollerith> remove the display manager for your default runlevel
[01:26] <mutante> Marcus are you root?
[01:26] <lewix> Dr_Willis, it's in *tar
[01:26] <Marcus> yes
[01:26] <skippy> you could try the graphical way marcus, under system you should be able to find a networking option on the gnome menu
[01:26] <hollerith> so you enter via console - use the startx script for now
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  i ment is it an ICON theme? a desktop theme? a gtk2 theme.. ect.. :P just try the drag/drop thing/
[01:27] <Marcus> it says my eterhent connection  is not configured
[01:27] <hollerith> X is ending and then being restarted
[01:27] <Marcus> the interface eth0 is not configured*
[01:27] <skippy> thats good , it means you have one i think
[01:27] <skippy> is that coming from the graphical menu?
[01:27] <Marcus> yes
[01:28] <lewix> Dr_Willis, wheres the theme manager program?. It's a theme/styles
[01:28] <Marcus> i enabled it
[01:28] <duckdown> Dr_Willis> Hmm thanks,  I need to find this one for gnome
[01:28] <skippy> click on the picture that says ethernet
[01:28] <jorvis_> hollerith: ok, what package do you have to install to get 'rc-update'?   (I've been pretty disappointed at the default ubuntu set of system packages.  'make' isn't even there??)
[01:28] <swim> how difficult is it to create a package from an apps source code?
[01:28] <lewix> Dr_Willis, im using kde
[01:28] <tubbie> !java
[01:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:28] <Marcus> now i  need ip address subnet mask and gateway address
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  there in the setting smenus some where with every other configuration program.
[01:28] <skippy> and click on the general tab and tell it to use dhcp marcus
[01:28] <Marcus> k
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  you would pick the ONE time i am booted to gnome. :) normally i use kde.
[01:28] <skippy> then connect it to your modem with an ehternet cable and toggle deactivate and activate
[01:28] <Marcus> do i put in my host name or the host of my isp
[01:28] <hollerith> erk - sorry rc-update is gentoo I thought you were talking about your gentoo laptop
[01:28] <chavo> lewix, kde themes are different than gnome, most have to be compiled
[01:29] <skippy> marcus, dont enter any info
[01:29] <Marcus> k
[01:29] <skippy> just click on properties and select dhcp
[01:29] <Marcus> ok
[01:29] <hollerith> does ubuntu have some tool to add startups?
[01:29] <skippy> your modem has a built in router, it should give you an ip and gateway when you connect ot it
[01:29] <hollerith> init scripts
[01:29] <lewix> chavo, how do I compil it then
[01:29] <NthDegree> hollerith try bum from universe
[01:29] <skippy> hollerith, yeah i recommend bum :D
[01:30] <richiefrich> rc-update
[01:30] <hollerith> jorvis_: try bum
[01:30] <jorvis_> hollerith: I finally killed it with - /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:30] <Marcus> is that all skippy ?
[01:30] <chavo> lewix,  which theme is it?
[01:30] <Marcus> do i need to put it in a specific location or anything?
[01:30] <hollerith> as soon as you reboot you have gdm though yeh?
[01:30] <skippy> yeah marcus, just dhcp enabled, and connected to your modem
[01:30] <lewix> chavo, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26392
[01:30] <Marcus> now how can i tell if it worked?
[01:31] <skippy> it should sya "The interface eth0 is active" once the dhcp has set it up
[01:31] <hollerith> I'll bet gdm has some die parms
[01:31] <skippy> you may need to toggle deactivate and activate a bit
[01:31] <skippy> maybe even reboot
[01:31] <Marcus> it says its not active
[01:31] <skippy> is it connected to the modem?
[01:31] <Marcus> but now its configured
[01:31] <Marcus> yes
[01:31] <skippy> and is the modem on?
[01:31] <Marcus> yes
[01:32] <skippy> ok look for the green link lights, are they flashing
[01:32] <Marcus> ok its activated
[01:32] <skippy> good
[01:32] <jorvis_> oh geez, can't install the nvidia drivers because the ubuntu kernel was built with gcc 3.4 but the current gcc is 4.0.
[01:32] <skippy> grats marcus
[01:32] <skippy> your on your way to victory lol
[01:32] <Marcus> now how can i connected to the internet
[01:32] <Marcus> lol thanks
[01:32] <skippy> good :D
[01:32] <skippy> ok now it is easy for you :D
[01:33] <Harold_P> hello eeryone
[01:33] <Harold_P> everyone*
[01:33] <skippy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats marcus, step by step guide to enabling all media formats
[01:33] <hollerith> eeryone lol that 's me
[01:33] <skippy> you will need to use synaptic or apt-get to retrieve the packages
[01:33] <hollerith> spooky
[01:33] <Marcus> so now i should be able to use sudo apt get?
[01:33] <Marcus> ok
[01:33] <Harold_P> ahah.
[01:33] <skippy> yep :D
[01:33] <skippy> you will have a really fun time now your up on the net :)
[01:34] <Marcus> alright thanks for all the help
[01:34] <skippy> linux really comes into its own online
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  just uncompress the file to some dir.. and use the kde theme manager's "install new theme button" and select the theme file
[01:34] <skippy> np mate :) glad your setup now marcus
[01:34] <chavo> lewix, you don't need to compil that one, just extract it and go into the directory then double click the tab_grey.kth file
[01:34] <bendld> can anyone help with an internet sharing problem? my ubuntu pc is connect to the internet wirelessly through an actiontec router. in addition to my wireless card i have a wired ethernet port and would like to share the internet connection with my xbox. i have tried bridgin and tried using firestarter but have not been successful.
[01:34] <Marcus> dont i need to set up a connection with my ip
[01:34] <Marcus> i dont think i've done it yet
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> heh - that is a nice kde theme. :P
[01:35] <swim> can anyone tell me what I should get to help me build a package from an apps source code please?
[01:35] <Kyral> build-essential
[01:35] <Kyral> and a want to learn
[01:35] <hollerith> benld:you should just have to plug all  into your router - no software necessary
[01:36] <swim> Kyral: how about checkinstall?
[01:36] <Kyral> ....
[01:36] <hollerith> if you have dhcp - does xbox have a dhcp-client?
[01:36] <Kyral> swim: don't say that word near me again
[01:36] <bendld> the reason for wanting this setup is so that i can have my xbox in my room (far away from the router) and still play live and ftp
[01:36] <nickrud> rflol
[01:36] <skippy> yes xbox has a dhcp client
[01:36] <Kyral> I am netorious for despising it
[01:36] <swim> Kyral: thats what I thought but people on debian suggested I use that
[01:36] <hollerith> xbox is wireless?
[01:37] <bendld> and i dont have a wireless adapter for the xbox
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> Ive never heard of any issues with checkinstall. :P lol.
[01:37] <Kyral> swim: use it, but ONLY for packages you will use only yourself
[01:37] <Kyral> Dr_Willis: for personal use its fine
[01:37] <Kyral> but for making packs for other people no way
[01:37] <lewix> Dr_Willis, thans
[01:37] <hollerith> so you run cat5 to the xbox nic to your router and ...
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> ($(@*@ everyone else. :P lol
[01:37] <nickrud> it's so damn dependent upon your local packages
[01:37] <skippy> bendld, have your tried firestarters internet connection "wizard" thing?
[01:38] <bendld> yeah
[01:38] <swim> Kyral: is there something else as simple as checkinstall that is better?
[01:38] <skippy> what you want to do is possible in theory, your linux box can serve the dhcp to the xbox
[01:38] <lewix> Chavo, thanks i'm going to see if it works. What will i have to do if I find theme that i have to compil
[01:38] <Kyral> swim: if you want to just install the program, the configure make make install dance is fine
[01:38] <chavo> lewix, the window decorations and the widget styles need to be compiled
[01:38] <bendld> i have tried using dhcp server as well as setting a static ip
[01:38] <skippy> bendld, i just had a thought
[01:38] <skippy> you may need a crossover cable
[01:39] <bendld> i have one
[01:39] <skippy> rather tahn a straigh
[01:39] <skippy> oh i see
[01:39] <lewix> chavo, I saw install kde them and then nothing
[01:39] <swim> Kyral: I would but I've also learned not to do that on a binary distro
[01:39] <bendld> i have tried both regular cat5 and crossover
[01:39] <blaze> maby it's a very stupid question but tell me.. who of you prefer gnome, and who kde, and whY? (please :) )
[01:39] <Harold_P> oh, the things we do for eye candy.
[01:39] <Harold_P> u
[01:39] <Kyral> swim: why not?
[01:39] <skippy> blaze. gnome is more simple IMO
[01:39] <blaze> and what is IM0 ? :)
[01:40] <Kyral> on Debian based systems, /usr/local is a no touch place for Apt-Get
[01:40] <skippy> in my opinion
[01:40] <skippy> :D
[01:40] <blaze> :D
[01:40] <Kyral> luckly most apps install there by default :P
[01:40] <hollerith> benld:xbox does have a dhcp-client running?
[01:40] <blaze> are there workspaces in kde?
[01:40] <Kyral> blaze: you mean multiple desktops?
[01:40] <skippy> yes blaze, its very similar to gnome really
[01:40] <Kyral> look on your kicker :P
[01:40] <skippy> since they are both x environments
[01:40] <bendld> yes
[01:40] <blaze> i see skippy :)
[01:40] <swim> oh btw Kyral I forgot what I was doing the app is actually Filezilla... not igloo
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: You know if arch current has xorg 7.1 yet ?
[01:41] <Kyral> uhh
[01:41] <Kyral> mebbe
[01:41] <skippy> blaze, if you liked windows 98 then gnome is for the win :)
[01:41] <blaze> and skippy, are you using gnome?
[01:41] <Kyral> check it out :P
[01:41] <hollerith> on xbox you can do ipconfig
[01:41] <skippy> yes blaze
[01:41] <lewix> chavo, I guess the theme is installed but where should i go to get it
[01:41] <skippy> i prefer gnome, i find kde is a bit of an overload
[01:41] <lewix> chavo, to set it up
[01:41] <bendld> the dashboard is unleashx
[01:41] <nickrud> h3sp4wn, maybe for eft
[01:41] <chavo> lewix, it's in the Theme manager
[01:41] <blaze> and is it allright if i use both kde and gnome?
[01:41] <Kyral> blaze: yes
[01:41] <blaze> i mean to have them both
[01:41] <lewix> chavo, i cant find it
[01:42] <blaze> oh, ok :)
[01:42] <skippy> yes mate, its very easy
[01:42] <nickrud> blaze, defintly
[01:42] <blaze> :D
[01:42] <blaze> 10x to all
[01:42] <hollerith> bendld:you can see the interface?
[01:42] <Kyral> I think at one point I had KDE, GNOME, XFCE, Enlightenment, Openbox, FVWM, and Fluxbox installed
[01:42] <neil__> hi
[01:42] <blaze> Kyral, :D
[01:42] <skippy> hehe kyral yeah ive had a fair few before
[01:42] <nickrud> Kyral, you missed blackbox, what's wrong with you :)
[01:43] <Kyral> That would have been overkill
[01:43] <skippy> its like taking a little holiday from gnome :)
[01:43] <Kyral> I use KDE now
[01:43] <Kyral> on my desktop
[01:43] <blaze> :)
[01:43] <Kyral> laptop it all about the Fluxbox
[01:43] <Lordthund> guys, what does dpkg --get-selecitons really tell me?
[01:43] <bendld> my pc is connected to the internet via ath0, i want to hook up my xbox to eth0 and use the internet from ath0. i think the problem may be that i am not sure what ip, subnet, and gateway to assign to eth0
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> nickrud: I just want to test whether I will be able to use my 9800pro with the oss drivers with 7.1 (it would be worth the hassle to build my own packages) But I would just try it on another partition with a distro which already had it
[01:43] <Lordthund> --get-selections *
[01:43] <gambit> when i d/l and save to disk, how do i get to it in terminal
[01:43] <bendld> i can configure the xbox just fine otherwise
[01:43] <Kyral> get what
[01:43] <nickrud> Lordthund, it tells you what packages you have installed, in a format you can use with --set-selections
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> nickrud: X org 7 goes upto 9600 so maybe 7.1 goes upto 9800
[01:44] <hollerith> benld:if you are using dhcp its being assigned for you
[01:44] <nickrud> h3sp4wn, no clue, ati is not my strong point
[01:44] <Lordthund> nickrud, ah.. not really.. it seems.. installting mysql-server-4.1 still fails, but dpkg --get-selections says it's installed
[01:44] <Lordthund> and what does "deinstalled" mean in that context?
[01:45] <Kyral> Lordthund: means it was once installed, but now it isn't
[01:45] <bendld> so are you saying that i should configure eth0 to be configured via dhcp?
[01:45] <Kyral> as opposed to never have been installed
[01:45] <Lordthund> does that mean that there are still references /deps somewhere in the system?
[01:45] <hollerith> can't you just go straight to your router?  why do you want the pc as a gateway?
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> nickrud: I wouldn't say its mine but I sure as hell would like to get rid of fglrx
[01:45] <Lordthund> Kyral, how can i get that out?
[01:45] <Kyral> Lordthund: NFI
[01:45] <Kyral> I don't use Ubuntu anymore
[01:45] <blaze> and.. i have one more question about gnome and kde.. can i make something in order not to see the kde applications when i'm in gnome's applications menu :) ?
[01:45] <Lordthund> Kyral, ?
[01:45] <hollerith> if your pc is a gateway then you're going to have to do some NAT
[01:45] <Kyral> No F***ing Idea :P
[01:45] <Lordthund> ahh
[01:45] <Lordthund> ;D
[01:46] <skippy> hollerith, hes basically trying to extend a wireless network using his linux box to bridge it onto ethernet
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> He needs to use hostapd then
[01:46] <lewix> where's theme manager?
[01:46] <nickrud> h3sp4wn, simple buy nvidia, then I'll help :)
[01:46] <richiefrich> Kyral ne neither :!)
[01:46] <skippy> hostapd?
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> Does he have a properly supported wireless card ?
[01:47] <nickrud> I'm almost interested enough to join #debian so see the fireworks
[01:47] <hollerith> bendld:you have a wireless router with some ethernet as well
[01:47] <bendld> yes
[01:47] <swim> ive found a package for filezilla for debian... there is one for sarge, etch, and sid... which one if any should I attempt to use?
[01:47] <neil__> anyone have exp with getting tv-out on an ati rage card?
[01:48] <lewix> where's theme manager located in kde?
[01:48] <lewix> I cant find it
[01:48] <hollerith> bendld:so you can connect your xbox to the internet by running some c5 to the router?
[01:48] <BioVorE> sid should be close to what ubuntu dapper is
[01:48] <Kyral> lewix: its broken up
[01:48] <bendld> but i dont want to hardwire the xbox to it because that would mean that i need to run cat cable through the house
[01:48] <bendld> it works though
[01:48] <nickrud> swim, if any will work, it's most likely sid/unstable
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> nickrud: I am contenplating it but it still involves running a tainted kernel (and if I can get os ati drivers working then that would be better)
[01:48] <swim> thx
[01:48] <lewix> Kyral, ?
[01:48] <martinsanchez> hi verybody, somebody here know how to install kubuntu live cd,???
[01:48] <blaze> and.. i have one more question about gnome and kde.. can i make something in order not to see the kde applications when i'm in gnome's applications menu :) ?
[01:48] <hollerith> I know you may want not to do that in the end but it is possible?
[01:48] <martinsanchez> hi verybody, somebody here know how to install kubuntu live cd,???
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> swim: get the source package and compile it (it will work better)
[01:49] <Kyral> lewix: as in like, you have your Window Deco menu
[01:49] <Kyral> and then you color scheme
[01:49] <nickrud> h3sp4wn, I agree, open source is better by def, but by working ...
[01:49] <swim> h3sp4wn: i dont want to install via compile though Id like to make a package
[01:49] <Kyral> and then your "style" (controls)
[01:49] <chavo> no there's a theme manager in kde also, that can save combinations of all those
[01:49] <martinsanchez> hi verybody, somebody here know how to install kubuntu live cd,???
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> swim: Make a pcckage from the deb-src of sid
[01:49] <hollerith> so you have a wireless adaptor for your xbox then
[01:49] <[arcane] > lol
[01:49] <bendld> no
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> swim: against the ubuntu libraries
[01:49] <swim> h3sp4wn: better than the full source from the site?
[01:49] <Kyral> martinsanchez: if you are using a Breezy one, you can't
[01:50] <bendld> my xbox is 2 feet away from my pc
[01:50] <[arcane] > kubuntu = not really a distro
[01:50] <skippy> hey bendld http://www.sorgonet.com/network/advancedwirelesswithlinux/ this link might help a little
[01:50] <martinsanchez> thanks all!
[01:50] <[arcane] > just a DE
[01:50] <skippy> at least with the bridging part
[01:50] <skippy> it seems to be be doing what you want to do pretty closely actually
[01:50] <bendld> so i would like to hardwire the xbox to my pc and use my pcs wireless adapter to connect to the wireless router
[01:50] <hollerith> ah, but pc is nearby and has a wireless adaptor to the router?
[01:51] <hollerith> sorry yes
[01:51] <bendld> thanks alot skippy, ill check it out
[01:51] <bendld> exactly
[01:51] <skippy> :)
[01:51] <swim> h3sp4wn: better than the full source from the site?
[01:51] <skippy> i wish i had a little project like that to do lol, im bored at the moment :)
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> swim: I don't know whether it will be much different - but it would be easier to build a deb
[01:52] <maccam94> anyone willing to help me fix a strange ethernet card problem?
[01:52] <bendld> haha, im frustrated ive been workin on this for a few hours and thats only today
[01:52] <hollerith> yout pc is going to be a gateway
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> dendid: Are you using ndiswrapper ?
[01:52] <swim> how can I remove the need for a password for sudo? (using visudo)
[01:52] <skippy> the thing about that guide though, bendld is that the bridge is a passthrough
[01:52] <hollerith> you need it to run a dhcp-server too
[01:52] <Napoleon> swim: :-/
[01:52] <[arcane] > sudo passwd
[01:52] <skippy> but it is relatively easy to change that
[01:52] <Napoleon> [arcane] : no..
[01:53] <[arcane] > well ...
[01:53] <Napoleon> you wouldn't want to not have to enter a password for sudo
[01:53] <Noah0504> Does anyone know of a Windows solution for converting DVDs and other video to Theroa?
[01:53] <richiefrich> swim a user to ?
[01:53] <Napoleon> that sort of defeats the point
[01:53] <crazy_penguin> night all. sleep well! :)
[01:54] <swim> Napoleon: im the only user... I know how to use linux... I dont need a password
[01:54] <[arcane] > Noah0504, uh linux
[01:54] <lewix> Kyral, im stuck i dont know how to choose the theme i just downloaded
[01:54] <lewix> and installed
[01:54] <skippy> Noah0504, by Theroa do you mean ogg format?
[01:54] <richiefrich> swim are u root?
[01:54] <swim> richiefrich: when I want to be :)
[01:54] <BioVorE> Noah0504: I think the guys at Xiph.org have a windows port somewhere
[01:54] <bendld> i dont understand what master and managed mode are or how to change it
[01:54] <Noah0504> arcane: Well, I have Linux on my laptop and it's not really efficient to convert video and DVDs.    I only mean my Linux box isn't fast enough to rip a DVD...unless I want to wait 12 hours...For everything else, it's a fine computer.  And Ubuntu runs just fine.
[01:57] <crimsun> [arcane] : / Kyral: cut it out. Now.
[01:57] <[arcane] > he bitches bout ubuntu then use MS
[01:58] <Kyral> [arcane] : I think we had a flamewar in #archlinux a couple days ago
[01:58] <[arcane] > Kyral, and
[01:58] <[arcane] > your point is
[01:58] <Kyral> I'll leave now
[01:58] <helpneeded> can anyone help witha problem during text install of dapper
[01:58] <hollerith> somebody kick him
[01:59] <[arcane] > Noah0504, there are tons of apps to rip dvds
[01:59] <trinni> hi ppl
[01:59] <nickrud> helpneeded, try #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[01:59] <helpneeded> cool :)
[01:59] <Noah0504> arcane, But on the Windows side, I was looking for something that would rip to Theora.
[01:59] <crimsun> [arcane] : if someone wishes to use something else, that's his/her preprogative. Under no circumstances do we antagonise him/her for doing so, understand?
[01:59] <[arcane] > crimsun, well why dont yall use a real distro
[02:00] <skippy> the irony is that he only wants to use windows to improve his linux expierience
[02:00] <[arcane] > and stop complaining
[02:00] <[arcane] > bout stuff
[02:00] <[arcane] > skippy, agreed
[02:00] <trinni> have problem while installation. installation is still at "preparing amarok"...since more than 10 minutes now. anyone can help?
[02:00] <jorvis_> is there a package search page on the ubuntu site?  Right now i'm looking for the package that provides 'dh_testdir'
[02:00] <bendld> one more question, when i enable eth0 if i select dhcp it does not recieve an ip (which makes sense because it is not connected to a dhcp server) so what settings should i use? the wireless network is on the range 192.168.0.*
[02:00] <crimsun> [arcane] : this is neither the time nor the place to be harassing developers.
[02:00] <nickrud> jorvis_, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <Noah0504> arcane, And the only reason Windows is on the other machine is because it's not my computer.  It's the family computer and I don't think they'd be too happy with me is I just installed Linux on it.
[02:00] <[arcane] > and ok srry
[02:00] <gambit> im trying to install nwn, i mkdir nwn, cd nwn, but when i use unzip /mnt/cdrom/disk2.zip  it says command not found, why
[02:01] <hollerith> your gateway shouold have a dhcp-server on it too
[02:01] <jorvis_> i'm using 5.10 ... is that dapper?  breezy?
[02:01] <nickrud> gambit, you need to install the the unzip package
[02:01] <MrRio> jorvis_: breezy
[02:01] <jorvis_> crap, no results for 'dh_testdir'
[02:02] <crimsun> jorvis_: please install debhelper.
[02:02] <trinni> have problem while installaing dapper i386. installation is still at "preparing amarok"...since more than 10 minutes now. anyone can help? - am a first-timer
[02:02] <gambit> nickrud, what package
[02:02] <crimsun> trinni: you'll probably get better results in #kubuntu
[02:02] <nickrud> crimsun, don't you have better things to do :)
[02:02] <trinni> k thx crimsun
[02:02] <MrRio> jorvis_: its Y.MM, so 2005, 10 month, dapper isn't out til june (2006 06 = 6.06)
[02:02] <nickrud> gambit, unzip
[02:03] <skippy> bendld, because your eth0 is the other side of the bridge, i think it would want an ip like <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:03] <gambit> from sysnap?
[02:03] <richiefrich> gambit sudo apt-get install unzip
[02:03] <jorvis_> MrRio: ah, well, it's a good thing I just installed breezy then!
[02:03] <lewix> damn
[02:03] <gambit> ty
[02:03] <richiefrich> np
[02:03] <jorvis_> I could have waited a week
[02:03] <lewix> is it that hard to install a theme?
[02:03] <jorvis_> crimsun: thanks, that got it
[02:03] <bendld> ok
[02:03] <skippy> when i have had two routers i have always used <IP_ADDRESS> as the second gateway
[02:03] <lewix> nobody is able to help me out
[02:03] <hollerith> skippy:subnet mask will change that
[02:03] <skippy> but its only convention
[02:03] <bendld> so my eth0 will be the gateway for the second network?
[02:04] <richiefrich> lewix for what wm?
[02:04] <skippy> yes for the xboc
[02:04] <hollerith> no your ath0 will be the gateway
[02:04] <jorvis_> lewix: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/292
[02:04] <lewix> richiefrich, Im trying to install a them but It doesnt work
[02:05] <richiefrich> lewix for what wm?
[02:05] <westdene> hi
[02:05] <hollerith> you'll need to NAT certain traffic to your xbox's internal address (it won't have an external sne)
[02:05] <hollerith> one
[02:05] <lewix> richiefrich, whats wm? here the theme: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26392
[02:05] <westdene> can anyone help me? or is there another chan to ask?
[02:05] <hollerith> eth0 is the xbox nic
[02:05] <richiefrich> lewix i need to know what u  use...  GNOME/KDE/fluxbox/openbox/ratpoison/.wmii/ion3
[02:06] <bendld> eth0 connects to the xbox
[02:06] <lewix> richiefrich, kde
[02:06] <blizzo> hi!  #update-rc.d spamassassin defaults   -->  System startup links for /etc/init.d/spamassassin already exist    ... But spamassassin doesnt start up automatically! only /etc/init.d/spamassassin start brings it up. What do I have to do?
[02:07] <blaze> ok, now you have to help me with Kopete. How to change the Encoding?
[02:07] <hollerith> oh and its called what on the xbox?
[02:07] <bendld> im not running linux on the xbox
[02:07] <richiefrich> lewix sorry i dont use ked
[02:07] <lewix> ok
[02:07] <lewix> i abandon
[02:07] <skippy> bendld and hollerith, what do you think about this link http://martybugs.net/wireless/router.cgi
[02:08] <richiefrich> lewix sorry ,man , if i find out ill let u kno
[02:08] <jhenn> hi. can i get some support for mpg321 here? does anyone use this?
[02:09] <westdene> lewix cna I ask you for some help?
[02:09] <blaze> where can i change the font's size in KDE ?
[02:09] <nickrud> jhenn, I have, what's the problem?
[02:09] <hollerith> xbox dhcp-client via whatever interface to eth0 of linux box broadcasting ARP dhcp connects
[02:09] <lewix> westdene, Im a newbie
[02:09] <jhenn> nickrud: i did mpg321 file.mp3 (remote stereaming server) and it just says "stream done decoding" and doesn't play a thing
[02:09] <westdene> too newbie?
[02:09] <hollerith> linux box in turn recieves ip from another dhcp-server somewhere out there
[02:10] <nickrud> jhenn, mpg321 has issues, I'd recommend mpg123-esd from multiverse. (mpg321 uses integer only math iirc)
[02:11] <blaze> where can i change the font's size in KDE ? please help me
[02:11] <[arcane] > blaze, in the control panel
[02:11] <chavo> blaze, system settings - appearance and hemes -> fonts
[02:11] <blaze> 10x chavo
[02:11] <chavo> np
[02:11] <linux_newbie2> I've got an NTFS partition mounted but it says I don't have permission to read it.  I know I have to change something in /etc/fstab.  Can anyone remind me?
[02:12] <jhenn> nickrud: i refuse to use multiverse I'm sorry
[02:12] <chavo> lewix, look in #kde, I answered your question
[02:12] <[arcane] > linux_newbie2, no you have to have the kerne;l configued
[02:12] <deameyes> on ubuntu I'm trying to install SDL, but it says I cannot compile executables, any ideas?
[02:12] <nickrud> jhenn, heh. I admire you then.
[02:12] <linux_newbie2> [arcane] : I know I just had to change something in fstab before, but I had to reload ubuntu and I don't remember the change
[02:13] <[arcane] > linux_newbie2, it shas to do w/ the kernel having support for the FS
[02:13] <nickrud> jhenn, I'd put the mp3 file up where it can be found, and point the devs of mpg321 at it, maybe they can update the free player
[02:13] <linux_newbie2> File browser says: "The folder contents could not be displayed.  You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of hda1
[02:13] <linux_newbie2> *hda2
[02:13] <roast> linux_newbie2: google fstab umask
[02:14] <jhenn> nickrud: does mpg321 have a site, list, forums?
[02:14] <roast> linux_newbie2: if you're the only one on it, you're probably aiming for umask=0222 in the options on the corresponding fstab line
[02:14] <richiefrich> linux_newbie2   /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222                    0 0
[02:14] <westdene> anyone can point me to the right direction on how to get internet in my nix with ADSL eth router?
[02:14] <richiefrich> linux_newbie2 in fstab
[02:14] <nickrud> jhenn, http://mpg321.sourceforge.net/
[02:14] <linux_newbie2> thanks
[02:14] <thenetduck> I have a question about where i should be installing programs
[02:14] <thenetduck> where is the normal place to install a program
[02:15] <skippy> westdene you need to have  a working ehternet card
[02:15] <thenetduck> i mean where do deb packages install programs
[02:15] <westdene> I have skippy
[02:15] <blaze> chavo, but why when i enter Menu Editor, i see System settings in gray
[02:15] <blaze> ?
[02:15] <blaze> and it is not add-ed to the K menu
[02:15] <westdene> the thing is I can ping but cant web browse
[02:15] <thenetduck> does anyone know where deb installs packages by defalut?
[02:15] <nickrud> jhenn, seems the last release was 4 years ago
[02:15] <thenetduck> or normally where programs are installed
[02:15] <chavo> blaze, no idea
[02:15] <thenetduck> like in what folder?
[02:16] <westdene> skippy mind if I pm you?
[02:16] <skippy> westdene are you sure that you have set up the subscription properly
[02:16] <skippy> np westdene :)
[02:16] <westdene> thnx
[02:16] <chavo> blaze, that's odd.
[02:16] <westdene> can you pm me, Im not regged
[02:17] <skippy> neither am i westdene :)
[02:17] <skippy> lol
[02:18] <Harold_P> shoot
[02:18] <Harold_P> Ahh.
[02:18] <[arcane] > lol
[02:18] <Harold_P> Does anyone know how to find your system specs?
[02:18] <Harold_P> I forgot, already. I was told yesterday
[02:18] <bendld> OMG it works!!!!
[02:18] <bendld> thank you for all your help skippy and hollerith
[02:18] <Gronk> hey all
[02:18] <Gronk> :)
[02:18] <MENDIGO> I need help: http://pastebin.com/743863
[02:19] <nickrud> Harold_P, there are serveral ways, such as lshw, lspci, others. what are you looking for?
[02:19] <Gronk> Does anybody here have any suggested solutions for jittery/jumpy dvd playback, when DMA is definately already ON???
[02:20] <Harold_P> Pretty much everything hardware-wise, nickrud. I'm trying to compare my current desktop to a notebook I might buy.
[02:20] <skippy> gronk does having it at full screen make it worse?
[02:20] <Gronk> skippy: checking now
[02:21] <nickrud> Harold_P, start with lshw. There's another that will come back to me that's also extremely useful
[02:21] <benoy> does anyone know of a program which can download an entire website including pictures on that website?
[02:21] <Gronk> skippy: a little, i think
[02:22] <Gronk> skippy: but its still real bad, even in a lil one inch window
[02:22] <skippy> i assume you are using the totem-xine backend?
[02:22] <Gronk> yup yup
[02:22] <nickrud> Harold_P, sudo dmidecode
[02:22] <skippy> ok the fact that it it doesnt help minimizing it would suggest that it isnt your graphics card
[02:23] <Harold_P> nickrud: okay, lshw doesn't give everything I would need--I'll try that
[02:23] <skippy> although it may be worth checking the settings, is it an integrated card you have gronk?
[02:23] <blaze> how can i add the System-Modules menu in KDE's menu
[02:23] <blaze> because it's missing
[02:23] <blaze> and also Menu Editor is not working :(
[02:23] <blaze> should i install sth?
[02:23] <blaze> oh .. at last it appeared
[02:23] <blaze> pfff sry :)
[02:24] <skippy> gronk, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will let you choose an appropritate driver for your graphics card
[02:24] <Harold_P> Thanks, nickrud.
[02:24] <skippy> its best to do a "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/backupxorg.conf" before you play with it thoguh
[02:24] <[arcane] > well
[02:24] <RevPeter> hello i have grub error 18 and 16, after several tryouts i could boot ubuntu, but how can i fix this? (dapper with latest bugfixes)
[02:25] <Gronk> skippy: yeah, its an intergrated card
[02:25] <RevPeter> it happens all the time
[02:25] <RevPeter> ubuntu on second hdd
[02:25] <nickrud> RevPeter, no clue, but #ubuntu+1 is the place for dapper questions
[02:25] <skippy> if when you boot up, x wont let you in, you can simply type "sudo cp /etc/X11/backupxorg,conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to let you back in, make a note of it now
[02:25] <RevPeter> ah, ok thx
[02:26] <[arcane] > Gronk, what type of card ??
[02:26] <[arcane] > intel or what ?
[02:26] <skippy> ok gronk is there any chance your integrated card is made by SIS, i had real jumpy playback with my internal card before i used SIS driver
[02:26] <Gronk> its SiS alright
[02:26] <skippy> also gronk, scroll up and copy/paste the stuff i wrote about making the backup
[02:26] <skippy> you will want to make sure you know how to recover if you cock it up :)(
[02:27] <skippy> when your ready then run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command
[02:27] <skippy> :) thankyou
[02:27] <Gronk> ok
[02:27] <skippy> i try, but alas i am a bit of a big noob deep down
[02:27] <skippy> :)
[02:27] <Gronk> so... use the SiS default driver u reckon?
[02:27] <linux_newbie2> even noobs can help occasionally
[02:28] <skippy> just choose default options for most things gronk, just pressing enter will keep the defaults
[02:28] <skippy> yes on driver use the arrows and go to SIS
[02:28] <witless> is it my imagination or is X a bit snappier on drake?
[02:28] <skippy> if it was set to vesa or vga before, then that would explain why you might have crappy playback
[02:28] <troy_s> X version 7 in drake.
[02:29] <skippy> witless, drake is very snappy
[02:29] <Gronk> & what about the video card's bus identifier??
[02:29] <Gronk> leave that be?
[02:29] <skippy> ok, it should have something like 0,0,0,1 writeen in
[02:29] <skippy> if it does keep it
[02:29] <Gronk> yeah, it does
[02:29] <skippy> just press enter
[02:29] <skippy> in fact you could just repeatedly tap your way through with enter from now on
[02:30] <thanr01> can i install ubuntu first then tiger after on my ibook?
[02:30] <skippy> i love defaults :)
[02:30] <skippy> thanr01, it would be easier the other way round
[02:30] <thanr01> i know but it still can be done?
[02:30] <skippy> but it could be done, the think is OS tiger will probably erase the MBR and boot straight to itself
[02:31] <skippy> you would have to use a grub boot disk to get into linux and then reinstall grub over the mbr thanr01
[02:31] <troy_s> More than likely.
[02:31] <thanr01> ok
[02:31] <[arcane] > lol ubuntu on a mac ?
[02:31] <skippy> PPC i assume
[02:31] <thanr01> ya
[02:31] <nickrud> [arcane] , yeah, an improvement
[02:31] <BioVorE> yup.. there going to have KDE4 apps ported to mac OS X as well I hear
[02:31] <troy_s> thanr01:  http://www.philroche.net/archives/osx-and-ubuntu-dual-boot/
[02:31] <nickrud> :)
[02:31] <skippy> apparantly OSX really flys on a PC
[02:31] <deameyes> if it says c compiler cannot create executables, how do I go about fixing this?
[02:31] <[arcane] > nickrud, hmm
[02:31] <[arcane] > uh theres TDL
[02:31] <[arcane] > YDL*
[02:32] <skippy> hmm gronk has gone quiet, i hope i havnt crapped his system up :)
[02:32] <[arcane] > OSX for intell bites
[02:32] <BioVorE> deameyes: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:32] <[arcane] > i have it
[02:32] <skippy> its a shame im all AMD at the moment or i would try OSX
[02:32] <troy_s> blasphemy, AMD all the way.
[02:32] <skippy> im a big fan of fast OS :)
[02:32] <[arcane] > skippy, its not all that
[02:32] <BioVorE> [arcane] : I agree.. I don't like it..  Having a filesystem that preservess case but is case insensitive makes no sense..
[02:32] <nooby_god> if I install the Drapper Drake RC and upgrate will it be the same if I waited until the 1st?
[02:32] <deameyes> thanks
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> nickrud: ubuntu on a kurobox (embedded ppc) how difficult do you think it would be ? (I will find out soon I suppose)
[02:33] <PyroMithrandir> nooby_god, yeah
[02:33] <troy_s> nooby_god:  Theretically yes.
[02:33] <[arcane] > BioVorE, not to metion that you have to be using at least nvidia to run it correctly
[02:33] <l_r> hello! Final Ubuntu 6.06 is out!!!!
[02:33] <gnomefreak> l_r: june 1st
[02:33] <l_r> kidding:)
[02:33] <nickrud> h3sp4wn, no freaking clue, I was being flippant :)
[02:33] <skippy> im just tabbing out for a sec brb
[02:33] <BioVorE> [arcane] : macbook pros have ati cards in them..
[02:33] <Surfnkid> what do you upgrade to get to 6.06 if u got 5.10?
[02:33] <BioVorE> !upgrade
[02:33] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:33] <[arcane] > BioVorE, i couldnt get the intel for x86 to work w/oa highend card
[02:34] <nooby_god> also, I want to move from Gentoo to Ubuntu for my personal box, can some one explain to me somethings?
[02:34] <jhenn> i get this error when i try to open ogg theora video with totem The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.
[02:34] <nickrud> Surfnkid, wait a day or two, there are issues
[02:34] <BioVorE> [arcane] : yeah.. need a high end card.. thats for sure..
[02:34] <Surfnkid> nm then :)
[02:34] <troy_s> Go nooby
[02:34] <jhenn> no matter if nothing is running it still gives errors
[02:34] <Gronk> skippy: thanks a lot mate - i'm going through it all now
[02:34] <troy_s> jhenn is that after a fresh boot?
[02:35] <Surfnkid> hey skippy ya from australia
[02:35] <nooby_god> 1. Instead of using the binary packages for some applications can I build from source?
[02:35] <thenetduck> if i install Dapper now will it be diffrent from the one released on June 1st?
[02:35] <troy_s> nooby_god:  Yes.  But be careful that you don't mix match too much and twist your system.
[02:35] <skippy> ok gronk :)
[02:35] <skippy> surfnkid nah mate, im from the UK
[02:35] <troy_s> nooby 2) Yes.  But it will autoupdate itself.
[02:35] <Surfnkid> UKEY!
[02:35] <Surfnkid> cool
[02:35] <skippy> skippy is a nickname ive had for years :)
[02:35] <jhenn> troy_s: no idea
[02:35] <troy_s> jhenn?
[02:36] <ubuntu> i just opened a unix server is thier any program i can use on windows to setup software on the unix server
[02:36] <jhenn> troy_s: hold on
[02:36] <skippy> i used to be a bit hyperactive as a child lol
[02:36] <nooby_god> alright, 2. When I install Ubuntu will I be given a full fledged Gnome desktop? or will it be a minimal one?
[02:36] <jhenn> troy_s: yes
[02:36] <l_r> thenetduck, probably
[02:36] <troy_s> ubuntu:  Unix server?
[02:36] <jhenn> troy_s: had to check uptime
[02:36] <Surfnkid> i just knew someone similar but was a real mean person so glad u're not it
[02:36] <skippy> nooby_god, it is a pretty decent slection of sotware
[02:37] <skippy> but unless you have a net connection you will get frustrated
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> nooby_god : Pretty bloated by all accounts
[02:37] <skippy> SUSE is a better distro for people who cant get online to update
[02:37] <nooby_god> I can remove all I want right?
[02:37] <troy_s> jhenn:  try a ps -aux and look for anything you have that might be grabbing the video.  If there is, kill it.  If not, make sure your "multimedia" sinks are set properly.
[02:37] <skippy> yes mate
[02:38] <nooby_god> and does the installation come with tools to help integrate QT and GTK apps?
[02:38] <skippy> hehe Surfnkid nah i dont bite :)
[02:38] <ubuntu> i leased a server to run a hosting site for a chat program but my pc is windows xp i'm now trying to logon and run install scripts using ubuntu any suggestions
[02:38] <igorzolnikov> hi... who i can install flash for firefox 1.5.03... i have ubuntu 6.06
[02:38] <Surfnkid> heh, very well, no one here has
[02:38] <skippy> nooby_god, no its a basic desktop
[02:38] <troy_s> ubuntu:  for security always use ssh
[02:38] <skippy> no development software worth mentioning
[02:38] <jhenn> troy_s: how do i set them up?
[02:38] <troy_s> jhenn:  Version of Ubuntu?
[02:39] <troy_s> jhenn:  Also, does this only happen with ogg vorbis / theora?
[02:39] <skippy> yeah ubuntu just download ssh from the synaptic or apt-get
[02:39] <Surfnkid> ubotu how can i get acid relief from my stomach, thank u
[02:39] <ubotu> Surfnkid: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:39] <Surfnkid> :P
[02:39] <jhenn> troy_s: i only use ogg
[02:39] <jhenn> troy_s: breezy
[02:39] <nooby_god> one final question, I have a prism2 USB wireless adapter, so I need ndiswrapper or linux-wlan-ng for net access, are any one of those included in the installation cd?
[02:39] <troy_s> jhenn:  ogg is just a wrapper. Vorbis is for audio.  Theora is video.
[02:39] <ubuntu> i tried ssh and the new versions of cross platform ftp servers and cygwin
[02:39] <jordan> sup
[02:39] <jhenn> troy_s: no really :P
[02:40] <troy_s> ubuntu:  setup a ssh server on your server and use putty from the xp machine
[02:40] <troy_s> jhenn:  sorry, trying not to assume anything.
[02:40] <Gronk> BUGGER - the bastard is still jumpy *bashes head on mini tower until bloody*
[02:40] <jhenn> troy_s: its cool
[02:40] <troy_s> jhenn:  What video player you using?
[02:40] <jhenn> troy_s: just totem
[02:40] <Gronk> totem
[02:40] <nickrud> jhenn, please say that's totem-xine
[02:40] <skippy> nooby-god prism 2 might be doable without ndiswrapper
[02:40] <troy_s> Gronk:  What is jumpy?
[02:41] <Gronk> dvd playback
[02:41] <Gronk> avi = fine
[02:41] <troy_s> gronk:  you have dma enabled?
[02:41] <Gronk> dma = on
[02:41] <jhenn> nickrud: no i just use totem
[02:41] <troy_s> gronk:  on both cdrom and hard disk if ide?
[02:41] <jhenn> nickrud: whatevers on breezy default
[02:41] <Gronk> i'll check the hd
[02:41] <skippy> gronk do a sudo hdparm /dev/cda
[02:41] <troy_s> jhenn:  theora should be fine if you have the gstreamer plugin
[02:41] <skippy> i think thats the command anyway :)
[02:41] <jhenn> troy_s: its all default install basically
[02:42] <nickrud> jhenn, totem-xine uses xine as a backend, it makes good use of ffmpeg, gives you better support
[02:42] <jhenn> nickrud: is that in multiverse?
[02:42] <ubuntu> problem i'm having it came with a pre packaged control panel that only adds telnet mysql perl script checker frontpage ext and few other simple things but unable to setup a ssh server on it from control panel
[02:42] <troy_s> jhenn:  i can't remember if the default 5.10 install has the gstreamer for theora.
[02:42] <nickrud> jhenn, no, universe :)
[02:43] <skippy> sorry gronk its "sudo hdparm /dev/hdd" you want
[02:43] <troy_s> ubuntu:  open up a terminal type 'sudo apt-get install ssh' if you are in dapper.  in breezy do an 'apt-cache search ssh server' and add whatever it grabs.
[02:43] <jhenn> nickrud: installed
[02:43] <nickrud> jhenn, while I was updateing restricted formats, I got an education
[02:43] <jhenn> nickrud: its about freedom man
[02:43] <troy_s> Theora isn't restricted
[02:43] <troy_s> and theoretically SHOULD work out of box
[02:43] <Gronk> dma = on for the HD as well
[02:43] <troy_s> but no guarantees.
[02:43] <skippy> ok, what spec is your PC
[02:43] <ubuntu> how do i move this to the server running unix
[02:43] <troy_s> gronk hdparm shows d1 for your dvd too?
[02:44] <nickrud> jhenn, true, but I won't stand in the way of others
[02:44] <Cryption> Ayone here familar with xplanet?
[02:44] <jhenn> nickrud: what do you mean?
[02:44] <troy_s> crypt:  is it like celestia?
[02:44] <Gronk> skippy: p4 3Ghz, 1 gig ram, gigabyte intergrated motherboard
[02:44] <nickrud> jhenn, not to get too philosphical, but I'm glad debian kept non-free around
[02:44] <skippy> gronk, im thinking that if you have a PC with little ram, and the DVD drive and Hard DIsk are on the same IDE cable, swap file usage could be hurting the dvds bandwidth
[02:44] <Gronk> troy: dl?
[02:44] <skippy> hehe sorry your spec should be fine gronk
[02:45] <troy_s> gronk:  dma on == sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd etc
[02:45] <linux_newbie2> can anyone tell me, in the Removable Drives and Media Preferences window, Multimedia tab, what does the %d mean?
[02:45] <troy_s> gronk:  test with mplayer and work your way back.
[02:45] <jhenn> nickrud: im not
[02:45] <jhenn> nickrud: im quite upset actually
[02:46] <blaze> how can i update my kde?
[02:46] <troy_s> jhenn:  awsome.  another purist!
[02:46] <ubuntu> if anyone would like to try familiar with unix i'd be willing to give u ftp login and file its in if u think u can set it up
[02:46] <Cryption> Yes it is like Celestia
[02:46] <nickrud> jhenn, hm, lemme install vrms, see what it says
[02:46] <troy_s> ubuntu:  unwise.  can you obtain a shell / terminal / command line?
[02:46] <jhenn> nickrud: i have it installed but its not perfect
[02:46] <jhenn> troy_s: do you jabber?
[02:46] <Surfnkid> if im just trying to get mp3 decoders do i have to enable security updates  community maintained (univ) or just leave that alone
[02:47] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: I would do it for a free shell account
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[02:47] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:47] <blaze> how can i update my KDE version?
[02:47] <skippy> yes sufnkid you need to enable univere and multiverse
[02:47] <ubuntu> yup using a cross platform ncftp which is profptd i believe but run the install file
[02:47] <nickrud> I've got the video drivers, java, and ttf-gentium (didn't expect that)
[02:47] <Boelcke> blaze, what version are you using now?
[02:47] <jhenn> troy_s: nickrud install totem-xine made it work.  who knew?
[02:47] <ubuntu> won't
[02:47] <Surfnkid> are the multiverse the blackports?
[02:47] <blaze> 3.4.3 Boelcke
[02:47] <Gronk> the wierd thing is that my avis play back better anc crisper than ever now - even if the sound seems slightly outta sync
[02:47] <troy_s> jhenn: xine handles things differently.
[02:47] <Gronk> anc = and
[02:48] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: proftpd != ncftp
[02:48] <skippy> hmm gronk your problem is stumping me a bit
[02:48] <jhenn> troy_s<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:48] <troy_s> ubuntu:  not ftp.  you will need to use a terminal.
[02:48] <nickrud> jhenn, I did, I've spend way too much on non-free media support
[02:48] <skippy> i hate to ask this question, but does it work in windows gronk?
[02:48] <ubuntu> i believe so program i d/l was ncftp but when command lind comes up says proftpd
[02:48] <jhenn> nickrud: i value my freedom
[02:48] <Boelcke> Printer question: I figured out I had to put "Servername <IP_ADDRESS>" in my client.conf file -- what's the format for the regular hostname?
[02:48] <blaze> Boelcke, can you help me?
[02:48] <troy_s> gronk:  did you try mplayer yet?
[02:49] <troy_s> jhenn:  here here.
[02:49] <blaze> how can i update my KDE version?
[02:49] <corey> i cant figure out what im doing wrong, i upgraded to dapper and now network manager doesnt list my wifi card, its listed in iwconfig but not in networkmanager
[02:49] <Gronk>  skippy: it did work with xp
[02:49] <blaze> =(
[02:49] <skippy> yeah good point, try using xine as well gronk
[02:49] <nickrud> jhenn, not to toot too hard, but the first paragraph of restricted formats is mine
[02:49] <jhenn> troy_s: just thought you might want to stay in trouch with another "purist"
[02:49] <Boelcke> blaze, I'm thinking I can.  I just did the Synaptec kubuntu-desktop package...
[02:49] <skippy> xine, totem can definately play dvd
[02:49] <Boelcke> You're looking to go to 3.5, blaze?
[02:49] <skippy> i believe VLC can also, VLC is worth trying
[02:49] <jhenn> nickrud: i asked mark if we could take out restricted formats
[02:49] <blaze> yes Boelcke
[02:49] <jhenn> nickrud: i mean restricted copyrights
[02:50] <blaze> and kubuntu is the kde ubuntu :), right?
[02:50] <jhenn> nickrud: he said maybe after dapper is released
[02:50] <jhenn> nickrud: its not priority
[02:50] <Flannel> blaze: right.
[02:50] <Gronk> ok - swapped my test dvd from Red Dwarf to harry potter
[02:50] <troy_s> jhenn:  can't yet.  but hopefully the opensource community can educate the rest of the point and clickers.
[02:50] <skippy> i would suggest reinstalling the codecs, but since you are able to unlock the dvd to play it it would seem that you are set up right
[02:50] <Gronk> now she's apples
[02:50] <Boelcke> blaze, argh, typo, I meant to say can't...
[02:50] <jhenn> nickrud: like have an option to not use it
[02:50] <blaze> 10x Flannel and Boelcke
[02:50] <ubuntu> i'm just learning and starting out so can't really mess up up server most is locked and hidden from ftp
[02:50] <blaze> :) np
[02:50] <troy_s> gronk:  yah.
[02:50] <Surfnkid> there are two ub 5.10 repositories binary and source
[02:50] <jhenn> troy_s: i would rather my family use ubuntu with non-free then windows
[02:50] <troy_s> ubuntu:  ftp is not a shell
[02:50] <Surfnkid> do i enable universe and mmultiverse on both?
[02:50] <Gronk> it was just the original red dwarf footage that was crap
[02:50] <Trashcan> can someone help me out with boot procedure.. i need to run dhclient before doing the NTP sync
[02:50] <jhenn> troy_s: but i wouldn't help them install it
[02:50] <troy_s> ubuntu:  i would bet that they have ssh already enabled
[02:50] <nickrud> jhenn, then you're gonna lose nearly every video card. It's like having netscape back when. Suck up, and write replacecments (or encourage others to, it's all I can do)
[02:51] <skippy> your kidding? are you sorted then gronk?
[02:51] <troy_s> ubuntu:  ftp is only file transfer protocol.  you need a shell - a command line.
[02:51] <skippy> is it smooth now?
[02:51] <jhenn> nickrud: we will see the promised land one day
[02:51] <Flannel> troy_s, ubuntu, right. the server install has ssh installed by default.  Nothing else listening though.
[02:51] <troy_s> jhenn:  hit nvidia and ati with some pleasant hatemail and encourage them to open their specs.
[02:51] <Gronk> skippy: yeah thanks man - but ur advide did help, last nite, even harry potter was jumpy
[02:51] <Gronk> advice i mean
[02:51] <skippy> lol :)
[02:51] <jhenn> troy_s: word
[02:51] <skippy> well gronk good to here your sorted :)
[02:52] <skippy> hear*
[02:52] <ubuntu> says its enabled already along with phpadmin tool box but can't login on putty phpadmin toolbox is hangin
[02:52] <jhenn> troy_s: do you jabber or just irc?
[02:52] <troy_s> jhenn:  NOT linux support.  open specs.  open source.  that way freebsd, linux, openbsd, netbsd, and EVERYONE wins.
[02:52] <linux_newbie2> what's the difference between editing hdparm.conf and keeping the changes via hdparm -k1?
[02:52] <troy_s> jhenn:  now AND in the future.
[02:52] <jhenn> troy_s: well netbsd and freebsd are already losing
[02:52] <Flannel> troy_s, jhenn, and additional arches.
[02:52] <jhenn> troy_s: they have binary blobs in their base
[02:53] <troy_s> jhenn:  openbsd doesnt :)
[02:53] <skippy> linux_newbie2, there isnt a big difference, its just a convienience thing really
[02:53] <jhenn> troy_s: i know but openbsd ports and packages contains wild non-free software
[02:53] <skippy> personally i like to just edit conf files whenever possible
[02:53] <linux_newbie2> skippy: thanks
[02:53] <jhenn> troy_s: its good for a router or just running emacs :)
[02:53] <Trashcan> if I want to run dhclient before ntpdate, would I create a script that runs dhclient and place that before ntpdate in the boot sequence? and if so, which file controls the boot sequence? :)
[02:53] <troy_s> jhenn:  needless to say, binary blobs willingness isn't the end of the world -- they are doing what they can.  some choose to avoid them.  to that end, open docs help everyone.
[02:53] <jhenn> troy_s: firewall even
[02:53] <troy_s> jhenn:  bah.
[02:53] <skippy> conf files are good, because you can back em up, and you learn more that way
[02:54] <linux_newbie2> skippy: that would be my preference too: I'd rather re-do it later possibly instead of having settings that are automagically saved somewhere
[02:54] <jhenn> troy_s: you can so easily install non-free in openbsd
[02:54] <jhenn> troy_s: by accident
[02:54] <jhenn> troy_s: with one pkg_add
[02:54] <jhenn> troy_s: there goes your freedom
[02:54] <skippy> yeah, linux, my fave think about linux are the human readable conf files
[02:54] <troy_s> jhenn:  yah... they should at least be clear to what is going in and what the implications are.
[02:54] <ubuntu> u can reach me from passion.sharpsphere.com if anyone would like to try i'm goin reboot and try the putty again
[02:54] <Surfnkid> jesus christ my SPM has a gizillion universe and multiverse
[02:54] <jhenn> troy_s: i wish they would make debian/openbsd
[02:54] <troy_s> jhenn:  it is like a company saying that 32bit ndiswrapper drivers work so they aren't going to bother releasing an open source driver.
[02:55] <jhenn> troy_s: THAT would ROCK
[02:55] <troy_s> jhenn:  the package system in openbsd is pretty darn great.  can't complain too much.
[02:55] <jhenn> troy_s: yeah but its not categorized like debian is (free here, non-free here)
[02:55] <Surfnkid> hey guys now theyre enabled universe and multiverse
[02:55] <jhenn> troy_s: peace
[02:55] <Surfnkid> do i have to download mp3 packages
[02:56] <blaze> can somebody tell me how to update my KDE to 3.5 ?
[02:56] <blaze> now it's 3.4.3
[02:56] <skippy> ill get you the link surfnkid, what version are you using, dapper or breezy?
[02:56] <Surfnkid> breezy
[02:56] <Surfnkid> im looking at steps
[02:56] <Surfnkid> ive enabled univ and multiv
[02:57] <nickrud> jhenn, yeah, the categorization is not as clear, and troy_s has a point. But, do we say 'ok, it's not free so you can't use your laptop on the net?' Harsh
[02:57] <Surfnkid> clicked ok, refreshed screen, downloaded a few pkgs and now i dont know what else to start enabling those package
[02:57] <Surfnkid> s
[02:57] <Surfnkid> i just want to get my mp3 music to play
[02:57] <skippy> to get mp3 playing open a terminal
[02:57] <skippy> alt and F2 should do it
[02:57] <Surfnkid> ok
[02:58] <MisterN> n8
[02:58] <skippy> then type "apt-get update"
[02:58] <Surfnkid> can i do that on a regular terminal screen
[02:58] <Boelcke> What's the right format for my hostname?  (Trying to replace IP address that works in my CUPS clients.conf file)
[02:58] <Trashcan> alright lets simplify the qestion then. which file controls the order of boot scripts?
[02:59] <jhenn> nickrud: i asked rms about this if he would support banning the internet
[02:59] <jhenn> nickrud: i can forward you the mail
[02:59] <jhenn> nickrud: uif u liek
[02:59] <nickrud> jhenn, please :)
[02:59] <Surfnkid> hang on skip
[02:59] <skippy> then "apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg" surfnkid
[02:59] <jhenn> nickrud: is your email in nickserv info
[02:59] <skippy> sorry mate my error surfnkid
[02:59] <skippy> you need to type "sudo" before everything.
[03:00] <Surfnkid> right
[03:00] <skippy> have you got a terminal open yet?
[03:00] <Surfnkid> ahhh
[03:00] <Surfnkid> i did that yesterdady but didnt enable the univ multiv
[03:00] <Surfnkid> so it might work now
[03:00] <tehubersheezy> eh i need help upgrading video card drivers
[03:00] <skippy> sudo apt-get update
[03:00] <Surfnkid> ok
[03:00] <skippy> then
[03:00] <skippy> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[03:00] <Surfnkid> it fetched a few things
[03:00] <Surfnkid> ill just copy and paste :P
[03:00] <skippy> that should get you the major formats up
[03:01] <skippy> yeah it should work :)
[03:01] <Surfnkid> ok
[03:01] <skippy> it wont take very long
[03:01] <Sanne> Trashcan, as far as I know, the scripts are in /etc/init.d, and they get controlled by symlinks in /etc/rcN.d where N is the runlevel (default 2, I believe).
[03:01] <skippy> that stuff should get you mp3 and avi/divx up
[03:01] <Surfnkid> ok its downloading and copying
[03:01] <skippy> good :)
[03:01] <skippy> now there is also a program called "synaptic"
[03:02] <skippy> it is a graphical frontend for apt-get
[03:02] <alexcamilo> How does the ubuntu live/ install CD work?
[03:02] <skippy> while it isnt as good for copying and pasting from IRC, it is very good fun to browse it using the search function to find new programs to try surfnkid
[03:02] <Surfnkid> right the SPM, u mean? i got it going but it was hard to find all those pkgs
[03:02] <gnomefreak> alexcamilo: its works like a live cd but has an install icon on desktop
[03:02] <Boelcke> What's the right format for a hostname?  (Trying to replace IP address that works in my CUPS clients.conf file)
[03:03] <skippy> yeah surfnkid, synaptic package manager is crap when you have specific files to get
[03:03] <alexcamilo> i was looking for a little more technical description.
[03:03] <Surfnkid> thank you!
[03:03] <skippy> but it is great if you want to seach for say.. a "html editor" or something like that
[03:03] <Surfnkid> now i dont feel that bad
[03:03] <skippy> i love synaptic
[03:03] <andrejkw> Hmm, where does the Trash Can reside?
[03:03] <swim> can I use a blah.build to create a package for ubuntu?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> alexcamilo: to get more technical you have to give me more of what you want to know
[03:03] <andrejkw> Inside what folder?
[03:03] <skippy> but if you are installing a list of packages apt-get is better
[03:03] <Surfnkid> by the way, i enabled the 3d desktop
[03:04] <Surfnkid> how do i get that going :P
[03:04] <skippy> 3d desktop? never heard of it lol
[03:04] <Boelcke> andrejkw in your home directory, but it's hidden.  .trash
[03:04] <andrejkw> Boelcke: thanks
[03:04] <skippy> i use compiz/xgl
[03:04] <Surfnkid> its ok
[03:04] <skippy> i think ive heard of 3d desktop actually, i will find you the tread to read
[03:04] <Boelcke> I just learned that another hidden folder in there, .thumbs, should be cleaned out regularly.  It keeps EVERY thumbnail ever created for nautilus
[03:05] <alexcamilo> gnomefreak: i remember someone telling me it works out of a 'ramdisk'. how is it created. how is it loaded into memory. what on the cd does these tasks?
[03:05] <Surfnkid> cheers mate
[03:05] <Surfnkid> its finished downloading/installing the packages. should i check anything else?
[03:05] <Sanne> Trashcan, /etc/rcS.d/README might also help
[03:05] <swim> does Anyone know if I can use a blah.build file to create an ubuntu package?
[03:05] <skippy> Surfnkid, nah for now just test em out
[03:05] <Boelcke> Can someone suggest another format for putting a hostname in my clients.conf file?  When I put the IP address, that works fine, but the server machine's IP can change...
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> skippy,  i saw a live cd demo of one (that was in java) and it sucked. :P lol
[03:06] <Surfnkid> oh ok should i open totem
[03:06] <skippy> yeah Dr, i dont like the looks of it myself :)
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> skippy,  i dont care much for the "useablity" of it. :)
[03:06] <gnomefreak> alexcamilo: the cd is a bootable snapshot (iso) theres an underlying angine (for lack of better words) called casper that does everything to load it iirc
[03:06] <skippy> yeah or jsut click on an mp3 file Surf,and see if it plays
[03:06] <Napoleon> how come I'm on a system with "bash 3.0" and it's so different from  bash?
[03:06] <Surfnkid> ok
[03:06] <swim> Hello?
[03:06] <skippy> basically i use pretty stuff when i have mates round Dr_Willis, and then switch it off when they gone :)
[03:06] <Napoleon> delete key makes a "~" and you can't view stuff in directories you don't have read access to like you can in  bash by using the tab function
[03:07] <tehubersheezy> how do i get back into gnome after exiting into terminal mode?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> tehubersheezy: ctrl+alt+f7
[03:07] <skippy> Surfnkid here is the link to the 3d desktop thread i promised you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100167&highlight=3d+desktop
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> skippy,  :P
[03:07] <skippy> :)
[03:07] <mikedouglas> How would I go about resizing an lvm2 partition (not the logical volume)?
[03:07] <alexcamilo> gnomefreak: is this the same for the install and live disks? just the install is an iso of an installer and the life is an iso of a system? or is ot someting different
[03:07] <dizy> hi.. newbie here.. wondering if anyone could help me get apple shake running ... when i try to run it i get "bash: bin/shake: /bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"
[03:07] <Seveas> dizy, sudo apt-get install csh
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> skippy,  these are the windows users that ask "whats that secret key you are using to delete files instead of dragging them to the trash?" and you reply.. "The Delete Key, of course"
[03:08] <dizy> thanks seveas will try
[03:08] <skippy> haha
[03:08] <gerardomt> Hi
[03:08] <gerardomt> Can you help me?
[03:08] <skippy> :)
[03:08] <gerardomt> I'm trying to install mi printer under ubuntu but I can't
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> skippy,  then they ask what the "insert" key does then?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> alexcamilo: not sure that deep into it
[03:08] <jhenn> is there a way to switch desktops using scroll whell in breezy/gnome/metacity?
[03:08] <dizy> Seveas...   E: Couldn't find package csh
[03:08] <skippy> :P
[03:08] <nikkiana> so... my fiance installed a new graphics card on his computer, he downloded the drivers and that seems to work fine, but it won't recognize the Open GL drivers... any thoughts?
[03:08] <swim> does Anyone know if I can use a blah.build file to create an ubuntu package?
[03:08] <Seveas> !info csh
[03:08] <ubotu> csh: (Shell with C-like syntax, standard login shell on BSD systems), section universe/shells, is optional. Version: 20050313-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 384 kB
[03:08] <bbfgffdfs55> Somebody know the ubuntu chanel for french users??
[03:08] <jhenn> like hold alt and scroll wheel to switch.  if not i want that feature :)
[03:08] <Seveas> dizy, enable universe
[03:08] <gnomefreak> bbfgffdfs55: #ubuntu-fr
[03:08] <alexcamilo> ah ok
[03:08] <nickrud> jhenn, yeah, put your mouse over the windows in the menubar and scroll
[03:08] <Seveas> !universe
[03:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:08] <alexcamilo> thanx
[03:09] <bbfgffdfs55> thanks
[03:09] <blaze> where can i add differend keyboard language in KDE?
[03:09] <jhenn> nickrud: oh thats nice
[03:09] <Boelcke> gerardomt, what's the problem?  What printer?
[03:09] <jhenn> nickrud: thansk
[03:09] <dizy> Seveas, how do i enable universe
[03:09] <jef__> am i correct in my memory that 5.10ppc supported the apple airport (non-extreme) with no config? I almost 99% positive that when I installed it set it all up with no config at all (other than to choose dhcp).
[03:09] <nickrud> jhenn, I had about 500 messages waiting, I'm waiting for spamassassin
[03:09] <dizy> oh
[03:09] <skippy> hehe ive been on IRC for ages, Ive played through 3 Joy Division albums now :)
[03:09] <dizy> ok
[03:09] <jhenn> nickrud: with gmail?
[03:10] <Surfnkid> thank you skippy for those steps, the player is now playing my mp3's! :) whats a good player instead of totem
[03:10] <tehubersheezy> xine
[03:10] <nickrud> jhenn, no, I'm an evo user, gmail is just a store for me
[03:10] <blaze> where can i add differend keyboard language in KDE?
[03:10] <skippy> xmms is really good surfnkid
[03:10] <Surfnkid> ok
[03:10] <jhenn> nickrud: oh
[03:10] <skippy> you can skin it with winamp skins, which is a real bonus
[03:10] <jhenn> nickrud: forward?
[03:10] <skippy> its also fast and small :)
[03:10] <Surfnkid> i assume its not preinstalled :P
[03:10] <skippy> beep media player is very similar
[03:10] <skippy> nope, just search it on synaptic
[03:11] <Surfnkid> ah ok
[03:11] <Surfnkid> whats the section for the players, multimedia
[03:11] <skippy> the best ones are: beep media player, xmms, VLC
[03:11] <skippy> yeah, but you can just do a search from the edit menu
[03:11] <nickrud> jhenn, yes, forward everything to gmail, get from gmail to impa
[03:11] <nickrud> *imap
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Seveas: thank you for adding that topic to the agenda
[03:11] <Surfnkid> right
[03:12] <Surfnkid> ok thanks mate, gonna give it a shot
[03:12] <skippy> yeah get xmms
[03:12] <tehubersheezy> eh i need help installing nvidia graphics driver
[03:12] <jhenn> tehubersheezy: thats not supported
[03:12] <^snail^> tehuber, what do you need? I did that today
[03:13] <tehubersheezy> jhenn:what do you mean it's not supported
[03:13] <tehubersheezy> i just don't know how to do it
[03:13] <skippy> surfnkid, once youve downloaded xmms you can head over to http://classic.winamp.com/skins/browse.php?category=997&ctype=S and grab a funky skin for it
[03:13] <tehubersheezy> every time i try to follow the instructions in the wiki my computer just doesn' tstart up to gnome
[03:13] <skippy> and if you have a big media collection, Rhythmbox is good for organising it
[03:14] <Surfnkid> ah
[03:14] <Surfnkid> wicked
[03:14] <jhenn> tehubersheezy: what don't you understand about "its not supported"
[03:14] <Napoleon> skippy: in theory
[03:14] <jhenn> i don't know i could be wrong but I'm pretty sure
[03:14] <swim> FOLKS, I need this package, but ubuntu package search says its only available for warty, and hoary, but Im using dapper:  libqt3c102-mt
[03:14] <Surfnkid> do these have equalizers, my sound is flat out crappy
[03:14] <skippy> yeah it does
[03:14] <linux_newbie2> tehubersheezy: look up EasyUbuntu in google
[03:14] <swim> suggestions?
[03:14] <skippy> right click on xmms and enable the equiliser panel
[03:14] <jhenn> tehubersheezy: if your computer starts behaving in ways in which you do not tell it how to, don't blame me
[03:14] <Napoleon> tehubersheezy: using breezy or dapper?
[03:14] <^snail^> tehubersheezy : try http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[03:14] <gnomefreak> swim: libqt3-mt iirc
[03:14] <tehubersheezy> breezy
[03:15] <swim> gnomefreak: sorry?
[03:15] <Napoleon> tehubersheezy: and what's wrong with the instructions ubotu gives?
[03:15] <Napoleon> !nvidia
[03:15] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:15] <gnomefreak> swim: apt-cache search libqt3
[03:15] <skippy> tehubersheezy, what error message does xserver give when it refuses to boot
[03:15] <Surfnkid> is xmule the Windows eMule version to dl files?
[03:15] <skippy> surfnkid, i think amule is more similar
[03:15] <swim> gnomefreak: ok, but that exact package name is not available?
[03:15] <tehubersheezy> have no idea
[03:15] <Surfnkid> ah
[03:15] <swim> no question mark there
[03:16] <gambit> i have an error saying 2 files are sharing,/usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1.0.0
[03:16] <gambit>    /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1
[03:16] <gambit>   what should i do
[03:16] <Surfnkid> ah mosquito in the room!!!
[03:16] <Surfnkid> chase it1!
[03:16] <skippy> but i dont like those programs, i use bittorent and usenet for "downloadz" :P
[03:16] <tehubersheezy> gtg be back afte rthis
[03:16] <gnomefreak> swim: hold on a sec
[03:16] <Surfnkid> oh oh
[03:16] <Surfnkid> k
[03:16] <swim> gnomefreak: ok
[03:16] <halibut> when is the best time for me to install ubuntu? ie: the next "major" release
[03:16] <halibut> (I don't want to try beta versions)
[03:16] <skippy> halibut the next major realease is in about 2 days :D
[03:16] <linux_newbie2> Dapper comes out June 1
[03:16] <Surfnkid> found xmms installing now
[03:17] <skippy> Dapper Drake, to be honest halibut you may as well just download it now
[03:17] <skippy> it really wont change much in 2 days :D
[03:17] <corey> i just upgraded to dapper
[03:17] <linux_newbie2> skippy: honestly, I am not confident in dapper
[03:17] <thanr01> i just installed dapper drive ppc server cd and i have no x? just looking at a console atm :S
[03:17] <halibut> ok thanks guys
[03:17] <thanr01> *drive = drake
[03:17] <gnomefreak> swim: if you run apt-cache search libqt3 you will have a list the one you want s libqt3-mt
[03:17] <halibut> which version of kernal will it have?
[03:17] <skippy> really linux_newbie2? Im the opposite, i wasnt too impressed with breezy but dapper is great
[03:17] <linux_newbie2> skippy: I had two people on here trying to help me upgrade to it and we got stuck when x wouldn't start and I ended up reloading breezy today
[03:17] <skippy> ive found it to be rock solid stability wise
[03:18] <gnomefreak> !info libqt3-mt
[03:18] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: (Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3), section libs, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 3213 kB, Installed size: 9036 kB
[03:18] <skippy> linux, upgrading does go wrong, ill accept that
[03:18] <skippy> it went wrong for me actually
[03:18] <skippy> but installing clean from a CD is normally perfect
[03:18] <swim> gnomefreak: are you saying that libqt3-mt is libqt3c102-mt?
[03:18] <linux_newbie2> skippy: XP
[03:18] <skippy> there is an issue with vwdial which needs to be sorted out though
[03:19] <gnomefreak> the new name of the package is libqt3-mt
[03:19] <skippy> what went wrong with your instal l then linux_newbie2? im sorry to hear it gave you grief
[03:19] <Surfnkid> xmms running skippy, thanks now ill have to work on the video card and the fans on the laptop but for now ill take a break
[03:19] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:19] <linux_newbie2> skippy: when I booted into the new kernel X wouldn't start and gave errors
[03:19] <skippy> cool suft, good to know your up and runing
[03:20] <dizy> Seveas, that worked but now it sais i dont have libstdc++.so.5   when I try apt-get on that it cant find that package
[03:20] <skippy> hmm, thats wierd that breezy worked and dapper didnt linux
[03:20] <skippy> a bad sign
[03:20] <linux_newbie2> skippy: Unable to find a valid framebuffer device, NV(0): failed to open framebuffer device, etc.
[03:20] <thanr01> i just did a fresh install of dapper on myibook and i have no x :(
[03:20] <skippy> what video card do you have?
[03:20] <thanr01> startx does nothing
[03:20] <linux_newbie2> skippy: GeForce 4 Go 440
[03:21] <skippy> that is wierd, a very popular laptop card, should be supported really
[03:21] <skippy> laptops can be difficult though, i normally have to use "noacpi and nolapic" when i install on a laptop
[03:21] <linux_newbie2> skippy: and that's after it failed to install some packages on upgrade and they walked me through a dozen apt-get and dpkg steps
[03:21] <Clint-> hello everyone, the ubuntu rc is really a nice switch, from my hard work I was doing on breezy badger, :-)
[03:22] <skippy> linux_newbie, when you get a chance you should post your story on the offical forums
[03:22] <Clint-> I am going migrate from VMware Workstation 5.0 to 5.5 on this, and get the Laptop blazing, maybe altering from sysv-rc-conf to bum, and other tools for services and run levels :-)
[03:22] <linux_newbie2> skippy: ok
[03:22] <skippy> i posted the vwdial issue today
[03:23] <skippy> the forums are awesome :)
[03:23] <Clint-> hi skippy :-)
[03:23] <skippy> elo Clint :)
[03:23] <skippy> hehe Mark Shuttleworth is probably flying past Mars at the moment
[03:23] <skippy> :)
[03:23] <skippy> ubuntu should really have a space theme
[03:24] <blaze> i'm having problems with the kde keyboard tool
[03:24] <blaze> can someone help me/
[03:24] <dizy> im getting "libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file" ... i tried apt-get on that file but it can't find that package... does anyone know what the name of the package is that will install that for me
[03:26] <cocox> hi i want to install a gdesklet and in the readme says that i must copy a directory into my home/user/.gdesklet ... but i dont have one... i dont know if i must create it or what =???
[03:26] <skippy> dizy try "sudo apt-get libstdc++5"
[03:26] <corey> blaze:  KDE questions are better in #kubuntu
[03:27] <nickrud> dizy, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[03:27] <dizy> thank you skippy&nickrud
[03:27] <blaze> 10x corey
[03:27] <nickrud> heh, I gotta remember to read back
[03:27] <nickrud> or between, anyway
[03:28] <skippy> :)
[03:28] <skippy> i do that all the time on the forums
[03:28] <skippy> one i literally posted an identical paragraph to the guy above me :P
[03:28] <nickrud> skippy, if you only knew just what crap blew down on me once cuz I didn't
[03:28] <Gronk> hey skippy: sorry mate - u know that advice u gave me earlier - do u know how I cld revert to the Ubuntu defaults of whatever - i seem to have lost a great deal of picture quality & crispness to my avi playback...
[03:29] <helpneeded> can someone help with a dapper ? iv been sitting for a while now in theother room and no ones answering
[03:29] <linux_newbie2> skippy: where on the forums should I post my Dapper upgrade "experience"
[03:29] <nickrud> there's nothing like having every single ubuntu biggie swoop in on the channel on you :)
[03:30] <skippy> i recommend this page http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=111
[03:30] <skippy> helpneeded fire away :)
[03:30] <Boelcke> What's the right format for my hostname?  (Trying to replace IP address that works in my CUPS clients.conf file)
[03:30] <helpneeded> finnaly  lol
[03:30] <skippy> gronk yes mate we can revert
[03:31] <skippy> right i believe all we did was run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:31] <Gronk> skippy: oh good
[03:31] <skippy> now did you do that backup trick i posted?
[03:31] <helpneeded> listen im having a problem during text based install for some unknown reason wont go past a certaiin point ...
[03:31] <Gronk> skippy: um...
[03:31] <Gronk> not really
[03:31] <Gronk> impatient like
[03:31] <helpneeded> iv already tried the gui installer ( todays buld and its hanging)
[03:31] <skippy> its not the end of teh world if you didnt :D
[03:31] <skippy> ok this is what we are doing to do
[03:32] <helpneeded> so im trying the text based
[03:32] <skippy> open up a lerminal gronk
[03:32] <Napoleon> somebody please help, I've asked before but no help was given, this problem is such a big deal that I may need to switch away from ubuntu... I have 1 gig of memory and no matter what I do, it's always used up
[03:32] <Gronk> skippy: done
[03:32] <skippy> by the way, are you registered? if you are you can pm me
[03:32] <eugman> Is there a way to install a ssh server on a computer but make it so only one account is accessable?
[03:32] <Gronk> skippy: & thanks gain mate, ur a lifesaver
[03:32] <nickrud> helpneeded, there are some issues in the latestest install releases, I'd suggest installing an older one, or waiting a day or so
[03:32] <skippy> np mate :D
[03:32] <Gronk> skippy: not yet
[03:32] <skippy> ok gronk lets start
[03:33] <skippy> "cd /usr/X11/
[03:33] <helpneeded> mick this has been since flight 5 this problem ....
[03:33] <nickrud> helpneeded, ok, that might be different then.
[03:33] <skippy> soz gronk i meant "cd /etc/X11/
[03:33] <skippy> without the silly quote :D
[03:33] <helpneeded> so its getting to a point  ... ****it
[03:33] <Gronk> that worked better ;)
[03:34] <dizy> how can i check what video driver i have installed ... i have the nvideo 6200 and as soon as i run shake everything gets really slow... just clicking on menu buttons lags a few secconds
[03:34] <helpneeded> if you know what i mean ..lol
[03:34] <nickrud> helpneeded, yeah. do
[03:34] <skippy> dizy, you need to install nvidia drivers
[03:34] <dizy> can you point me somewhere that describes how
[03:34] <skippy> yep getting you link now
[03:34] <dizy> great
[03:35] <helpneeded> ok the text based install readis all the files during install think its about 873 ... tehn goes to teh select and install gests so far and bang comp hangs
[03:36] <helpneeded> not right away
[03:36] <Surfnkid> bigpond amazing broadband
[03:36] <helpneeded> something to do with xserver-xorg
[03:36] <eugman> Anyone here know about ssh? I want to make just one user account accessable by it on my computer.
[03:37] <skippy> dizy : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia+drivers+install
[03:37] <skippy> ok gronk
[03:37] <dizy> much apreciated skippy
[03:37] <skippy> now you should be in the /etc/X11/ folder
[03:37] <skippy> np dizy
[03:37] <Gronk> skippy: :)
[03:38] <skippy> now gronk type "ls -l *xorg*"  :)
[03:38] <skippy> without the speech marks :D
[03:38] <skippy> it will list all the xorg.conf files you have in your folder
[03:38] <Gronk> & done - so, does that revert to last saved or?
[03:39] <Gronk> ok
[03:39] <skippy> how many came out on the list gronk?
[03:39] <Gronk> list - my bad
[03:39] <nickrud> helpneeded, this is really a stab in the dark, not for redistribution: have tried doing a server install, which ignores xserver?
[03:39] <Gronk> 4
[03:39] <Gronk> skippy: four on the list
[03:39] <xmux> hey
[03:39] <xmux> i want to ask
[03:39] <skippy> ok what are the names? do any have the work "backup" in the name, or do they all just have a ~ sign?
[03:40] <UKMatt> does anyone know if theres a feature in about:config of Firefox that lets you autoscroll when you click down the wheel?
[03:40] <skippy> you should be able to just copy and paste the names from the teminal into here gronk
[03:40] <Gronk> skippy: none of the above, 1 sec, i'll pastebin it
[03:40] <skippy> cool :)
[03:41] <Gronk> http://pastebin.com/743981
[03:41] <Gronk> thats the link
[03:41] <Masqy> hi guys, I'm running on a regular install, but would like my ubuntu to load only to terminal, and then, at my choice, to be able to start x server manually... any suggestions?
[03:41] <swim> damnit can anyone please help me install this application: http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[03:42] <s|k> I can't seem to unmute my computer
[03:42] <s|k> anyone know what I can do to fix that?
[03:42] <skippy> hmm gronk
[03:43] <floydwilde> Should I upgrade to dapper or wait till the official release?  Either way I got to upgrade breezy.
[03:43] <skippy> we dont have a decent backup in there
[03:43] <Gronk> lol
[03:43] <skippy> so do this, type "sudo gedit xorg.conf"
[03:43] <Gronk> is there somewhere I cld find out the installed defaults?
[03:43] <skippy> to be honest mate, the only think we want to change is the name of the driver really
[03:44] <Gronk> fair enuff
[03:44] <skippy> so just gedit it and we can change the work "sis" to "vesa"
[03:44] <skippy> i assume "vesa" was what was selected before, it almost always is on a default setup
[03:44] <floydwilde> I tried an test upgrade a while back and xorg didn't work like instantly, so I'm kinda hesitant
[03:44] <odat> i have a machine that i just put ubuntu on and it won't connect to the internet  it does in recoverymode just fine but not from the desktop
[03:45] <floydwilde> which version?
[03:45] <Gronk> skippy: & just save?
[03:45] <swim> someone please?
[03:45] <skippy> ok gronk have you got the file open?
[03:45] <PORDO> whenever i come back from screensaver, i get the "shut down" dialog thing with the six choices on it.
[03:45] <skippy> you want to change only one thing
[03:45] <Gronk> i do, & updated the driver
[03:45] <PORDO> at least dapper got rid of that clearly black face icon.
[03:45] <skippy> ok, so it now says vesa instead of sis?
[03:46] <PORDO> god...an icon for a human that literally expressed race...reprehensible.
[03:46] <Gronk> Driver		"vesa"
[03:46] <skippy> ok cool
[03:46] <cocox> how can i install a tar.bz2 ??
[03:46] <skippy> now save it
[03:46] <floydwilde> bunzip2
[03:46] <UKMatt> does anyone know if theres a feature in about:config of Firefox that lets you autoscroll when you click down the wheel?
[03:46] <odat> i have a machine that i just put ubuntu on and it won't connect to the internet  it does in recoverymode just fine but not from the desktop
[03:46] <Gronk> skippy: so, ready to test with an avi now?
[03:47] <skippy> nope, you will have to reboot gronk
[03:47] <Gronk> ok
[03:47] <skippy> but before you do
[03:47] <Agrajag> UKMatt: autoscrolling is in the advanced section of the normal configure dialog
[03:47] <Gronk> yes?
[03:47] <twobitsprite> hmm... what packages do I need to install to compile things from source? I don't see GCC in the "Add Aplications" thinger
[03:47] <jmoncayo> if i have wireless adapter can i use it for bluetooth?
[03:47] <skippy> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" write it down gronk
[03:47] <skippy> that way if anything goes wrong you can just go through the menus and pick new options
[03:47] <Napoleon> somebody please help, I've asked before but no help was given, this problem is such a big deal that I may need to switch away from ubuntu... I have 1 gig of memory and no matter what I do, it's always used up
[03:48] <UKMatt> agrajag, yup, there it was, ty
[03:48] <Gronk> done
[03:48] <jmoncayo> if i have wireless adapter can i use it for bluetooth???
[03:48] <twobitsprite> Napoleon, are you sure it's all actually used? where are you getting this info?
[03:48] <Napoleon> twobitsprite: top
[03:48] <Boelcke> Networking question: Do I need to set the Domain Name?
[03:49] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: you need, at a minimum, build-essential
[03:49] <intelikey> any expert help in the house ?
[03:49] <Napoleon> em:   1027760k total,  1014084k used,    13676k free,    96996k buffers
[03:49] <Surfnkid> we're all experts
[03:49] <bdunn> Could anyone give me an idea as to the stability of running Ubuntu as a server?  It seems to be a great platform for a desktop, but how does it work out for a server when compared to very rock solid distros like Redhat or Debian?
[03:49] <intelikey> lol
[03:49] <Gronk> skippy: thanks again, its much appreciated
[03:49] <Surfnkid> :-D
[03:49] <Gronk> rebooting now ;)
[03:49] <twobitsprite> Agrajag, I don'
[03:49] <skippy> ok :D
[03:49] <intelikey> Surfnkid i like that.... :)
[03:49] <twobitsprite> Agrajag, I don't see "build-essential" in the Add Applications thing either...
[03:49] <Surfnkid> hehe
[03:50] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: uh, Add Applications only lists desktop applications
[03:50] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: you should be using Synaptic
[03:50] <twobitsprite> Agrajag, ahh...
[03:50] <AlinuxOS> hello can someone help me with .fonts.config file ? I need to have my personal font configuration... my language is georgian.
[03:50] <skippy> napoleon, my system is the same 1027700k total 916504k 111080k
[03:50] <jhenn> are the microsoft times new roman fonts in multiverse?
[03:50] <skippy> its just the way linux manages memory
[03:51] <skippy> the kernel grabs more memory than is needed and distrobutes it :) it is perfectly normal
[03:51] <intelikey> i've got an unbootable system that i just booted.....  hehhe now how do i make it bootable ?
[03:51] <skippy> intelikey, i assume you mean that you have lost Grub?
[03:51] <skippy> and you want to install it?
[03:51] <intelikey> skippy no
[03:52] <intelikey> i don't have a usable initramfs.img skippy  and i've rebuilt it five times.
[03:52] <twobitsprite> Napoleon, are you noticing any slowdown or thrashing? how does your cache look?
[03:52] <Gronk> skippy: worked! avis = back to nice n clear
[03:52] <skippy> good
[03:53] <Napoleon> twobitsprite: yeah it's really slow, two second delay using my brush on gimp
[03:53] <Gronk> skippy: ur a legend
[03:53] <Napoleon> wap:   933724k total,        0k used,   933724k free,   567592k cached
[03:53] <Masqy> hi guys, I'm running on a regular install, but would like my ubuntu to load only to terminal, and then, at my choice, to be able to start x server manually... any calls?
[03:53] <skippy> at some point it is worth doing a bit of research on your hardware, and seeing if there is a more suitable graphics driver
[03:53] <linux_newbie2> bdunn: I haven't run Ubuntu on a server and don't have a ton of experience with it, but I'd like to point out that Ubuntu releases are based on Debian development and then fixed up
[03:53] <skippy> good to know its allright now gronk :)
[03:53] <Gronk> skippy: yeah, will do
[03:53] <linux_newbie2> bdunn: so if you would run debian stable on your server, Ubuntu might be a little too unstable for you
[03:54] <Gronk> well cya, I'm off - late 4 work as it is, cheers
[03:54] <twobitsprite> configure says: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:54] <bdunn> linux_newbie2: Thanks.  Good point.