[00:00] <lacy>  you guys are awsome  :)
[00:00] <Aero232> any idea how I can fix the problem?
[00:00] <unop> panserbjorn, hmm, run the command again - let's see what you get then too
[00:00] <panserbjorn> unop: ok
[00:00] <seancron> How can I enable the webcam built into my Dell SP2008WP monitor?
[00:01] <panserbjorn> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49869/
[00:01] <unop> panserbjorn, ok, can you paste the contents of the /var/lib/dpkg/info/havp.prerm file
[00:02] <panserbjorn> unop: kk
[00:02] <unop> panserbjorn, i'll be back in a couple of minutes - i have something to do quick.
[00:02] <panserbjorn> kk
[00:02] <Gin> hi, what tool to use to edit .mp4 (x264,aac) file?
[00:02] <tlg> hey, what kind of program can i use for msn with camera?
[00:03] <Spragie> pestilence : Follow up from earlier, i swapped cd-rom, but i believe the one i swapt it with is dirty or something ;\
[00:03] <bulent> helo guys : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:03] <bulent> what i must do now
[00:03] <gaintsura> bulent: do what it said..
[00:03]  * gaintsura hangs his head
[00:03] <Hexbomber> so this is a really strange question... At school I have wifi, and I am trying to enable my wifi. I have installed ndiswrapper, and installed my windows drivers with it. And when i go to school I can see and connect to the school wireless network.. but it won't let me access any pages, even though It says I am connected. I can't even ping anything.
[00:04] <linuxguymarshall> How can I unarchive a .tar.bz2 via a terminal?
[00:04] <gaintsura> linuxguymarshall: tar -zxf <file>
[00:04] <bulent> synaptic  problem
[00:04] <linuxguymarshall> gaintsure:Thanks
[00:04] <gaintsura> np
[00:04] <gaintsura> bulent: open a terminal and dpkg --configure -a
[00:04] <gaintsura> simple
[00:04] <JunTao> lol my more or less commands don't work]
[00:05] <unop> panserbjorn, i'm back
[00:05] <JunTao> I try man sed | more and it doesn't do it page by page
[00:05] <Aero232> hi can anyone help me with my problem?
[00:05] <panserbjorn> unop: ok, just a sec
[00:05] <unop> JunTao, man sed | less
[00:05] <panserbjorn> unop: here is the contents of that file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49873/
[00:05] <JunTao> unop yea no clue
[00:05] <JunTao> dont work
[00:06] <dr_willis> check to see that more, or less are not set to some odd alias perhaps.
[00:06] <bulent> yes i maked it
[00:06] <bulent> but it wright to me:
[00:06] <bulent> This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the
[00:06] <bulent> JDK documentation.  You will need to go download one of the
[00:06] <bulent> archives:
[00:06] <bulent>     jdk-6-doc.zip jdk-6-doc-ja.zip
[00:06] <bulent> (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[00:06] <bulent> Please visit
[00:06] <FloodBot1> bulent: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:06] <unop> panserbjorn, ok, edit the file with  gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/havp.prerm # and put this on line #2   exit 0
[00:07] <panserbjorn> unop: kk, just a sec
[00:07] <unop> panserbjorn, then save the file and run this.  sudo dpkg -P --force-all havp
[00:07] <JunTao> unop i tried with sudo and still it doesn't
[00:08] <unop> JunTao, sudo? to read a manpage - that's classified as "useless use of sudo"
[00:08] <dr_willis> :)
[00:08] <panserbjorn> unop: i'm not sure where to edit it
[00:08] <unop> JunTao, what happens when you try?  man sed | less
[00:08] <JunTao> it goes to the bottom of the man page
[00:08] <Funaust> unop are you good with wireless dongle issues?
[00:08] <panserbjorn> unop: after the $?  ?
[00:09] <unop> panserbjorn, you could just move everything down and create a new line at line #2
[00:09] <bulent> ok i past it
[00:09] <unop> Funaust, not so much, have you read !wireless
[00:09] <unop> ?
[00:09] <ubuntu_todd> I wanner learn one editor, so which is suitable for me a nere beginner, vi or emacs?
[00:09] <Funaust> !wireless
[00:09] <Funaust> yes there is no documentation on net111v2
[00:09] <bulent> but so what am i do now
[00:10] <panserbjorn> unop: plz dont shoot the newb, lol, but which one is line 2? how do you determine it?
[00:10] <Funaust> i ndiswrappered that and it says installed - but its still not connecting to my router
[00:10] <unop> panserbjorn, ohh lord .. move right to the beginning of the file, the very first character of the first line, press the down arrow key once, then press RETURN - now you magically have an empty line #2
[00:11] <ubuntu_todd> Could any geek answer me?
[00:11] <unop> panserbjorn, type  exit 0  in the empty space on line #2 -- easy :)
[00:11] <panserbjorn> unop; kk
[00:11] <aguitel_> ubuntu_todd, gedit
[00:12] <lbarker> ok this is weird
[00:12] <unop> ubuntu_todd, i would say vim was easier - but that's only because *I* find emacs hard
[00:12] <mn> Why won't gedit open the binary of executables?
[00:12] <unop> ubuntu_todd, someone else would tell you differently, i suggest you try both and make up your own mind.
[00:12] <lbarker> im using Bersirc irc client and /leave #ubuntu does nothing. help?
[00:13] <karab44> I can not compile source... error is http://rafb.net/p/qUslRP95.html
[00:13] <ubuntu_todd> I found emacs difficult for me, But I can't remember the key in vi
[00:13] <Xklark> i'm installing a driver for ubuntu server addition, and it says "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-server/source: No such file or directory." - How do I get the source of the kernel and get it in that directory
[00:13] <unop> mn, gedit thinks you are using a "screwdriver where you should be using a hammer instead" :) it's just limited that way.
[00:14] <JunTao> unop oh i think i know why....it's exiting right away..like going back to prompt. Maybe that's why? but why so?
[00:14] <zoidfarb> could somebody please pastebin the contents of their /var/lib/dpkg/info/acpid.list file?
[00:14] <mn> unop: well how can I open the binary of executables then?
[00:14] <Aero232> unop, can you please save the hair on my head?
[00:15] <unop> ubuntu_todd, you have to use vim quite regularly to have the keys ingrained
[00:15] <unop> JunTao, not sure - try opening a new terminal and try again perhaps?
[00:15] <unop> mn, use less, vi, nano, something else, anything else but gedit
[00:15] <ubuntu_todd> unop;vi, vim are same?
[00:15] <unop> Aero232, I'm not really a beauty-technician :)
[00:15] <mn> mk
[00:16] <unop> ubuntu_todd, on ubuntu they are - on most linux distros they are - but not on unix
[00:16] <zoidfarb> Anyone willing to help me out with a copy of their /var/lib/dpkg/info/acpid.list file? It would be most appreciated.
[00:16] <unop> Aero232, ask a question to the channel, if you have one i.e.
[00:17] <ubuntu_todd> unop, I got it. I will try vim. Thanks.
[00:17] <Aero232> hello, I plugged in my ps2 keyboard into a laptop USB port using a ps2 to USB adapter.  It sometimes works, but I have to take it out and plug it back in a million times and/or restart the computer until it works (running latest hardy)  anyone know of a way to diagnose the problem? maybe restart usb services to detect the usb keyboard?
[00:17] <lolmac> hi, Aero232
[00:18] <unop> Aero232, does the keyboard work ok before the OS has booted? in the POST screen, BIOS etc?
[00:18] <Aero232> no it doesn't
[00:18] <Aero232> unop, it has power, but it doesn't do anything
[00:18] <unop> Aero232, is USB keyboard support enabled in the BIOS ?  also, perhaps disable support for legacy devices
[00:18] <TIRC_4595> ciao
[00:18] <Aero232> unop, how do i do that?
[00:19] <TIRC_4595> hello
[00:19] <lolmac> hi, TIRC_4595
[00:19] <unop> Aero232, do you know how to get into the BIOS on your machine?
[00:19] <TIRC_4595> !list
[00:19] <Aero232> unop, btw, it usually has power, but SOMETIMES, it detects after I log in
[00:19] <Aero232> ok disabling legacy devices is in bios too right?
[00:19] <Joesep1> lately, ubuntu has been freezing up on me randomly.   It won't be easy to narrow down a single program because I doesn't happen consistently.  I'll come up to the computer and it will have the screen saver stuck in one place and it won't respond with any key-presses, so I have to hold the button in.  Any ideas?
[00:19] <unop> Aero232, if your machine supports that option, yea
[00:19] <Aero232> i'll go see what's there, thanks unop
[00:20] <bastid_raZor> Joesep1; do you have cairo-dock?
[00:20] <Joesep1> bastid_raZor: Not to my current knowldege, no
[00:21] <bastid_raZor> Joesep1; okay, i was having some issues too and it was found to be cairo-dock causing it. unless you explicitly installed it then no you don't have it.
[00:21] <panserbjorn> unop: it made the system crash
[00:21] <Lukas___> Hello, someone know how can use a real external HD with VirtualBox or Qemu ?
[00:21] <lolmac> hi, Lukas___
[00:21] <gaintsura> Joesep1: I have a similar problem, bastid_raZor I have not found cairo-dock to be the cause of it
[00:22] <bastid_raZor> gaintsura; after i fixed cairo-dock my issues have gone away.
[00:22] <lyk3n> hello
[00:22] <lolmac> hi, lyk3n
[00:22] <gaintsura> what was there to fix?
[00:22] <panserbjorn> unop: i keep getting a message about a logicblock on my sdga1 device?
[00:22] <Joesep1> Are there other people here who have the problem of ubuntu freezing seemingly randomly?
[00:22] <bastid_raZor> gaintsura; new svn version.
[00:22] <gaintsura> ah
[00:22] <lyk3n> hi, lolmac
[00:22] <SuperQ> Anyone good with opensync?
[00:22] <unop> panserbjorn, hmm, not good - can you paste the output of this.  dmesg | tail -n 30
[00:22] <SuperQ> I'm trying to get my address book off my nokia
[00:22] <bastid_raZor> gaintsura; although cairo-dock is in the repo's so svn is not needed.
[00:23] <lyk3n> i have had a computer log off by itself on hardy
[00:23] <panserbjorn> unop: ok, just a sec
[00:23] <natha1> when ever i try to add new layouts for statypmanager it just closes itself
[00:24] <blackhatv11> hey does anyone know how to check ports and firewall settings on hardy?
[00:24] <bastid_raZor> natha1; run that application from terminal and you'll see what errors it gives.
[00:24] <panserbjorn> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49877/
[00:24] <natha1> how do i do that?
[00:24] <blackhatv11> i got an email from our school network saying I have a Possible Virus/Bot Infection
[00:24] <blackhatv11> running ubuntu??
[00:25] <bastid_raZor> natha1; open a terminal then type the command to run that application
[00:25] <tripi> blackhatv11: i guess it's a fake alert
[00:25] <jshewey>  Trying to install grub2, but I am getting an error reguarding missing kernel.mod. Now, as memory serves me, this file is generated somewhere in the process of compiling a kernel. Is there a good place/package to generate this on ubuntu?
[00:25] <lyk3n> blackhatv11, they make avast antivirus for ubuntu
[00:25] <blackhatv11> they don't think it is fake
[00:25] <bastid_raZor> blackhatv11; you can pass on virii through email but your box itself probably doesn't have one.
[00:26] <tripi> blackhatv11: for port try netstat (man netstat to understand it)
[00:26] <lyk3n> get the clam antivirus for smtp
[00:26] <qwm> someone wanna chat????? PM ME
[00:26] <J_P> hi all
[00:26] <alex-stag> guys
[00:26] <alex-stag> i am wondering something
[00:26] <J_P> Anyone has sucess to use ubuntu 8.04 + epson datashow ?
[00:26] <tripi> blackhatv11: firewall .. u put a firewall on?
[00:27] <alex-stag> when i am starting a prog using terminal command
[00:27] <xomp> there's firewalls for ubuntu? O_o
[00:27] <alex-stag> when i close the term
[00:27] <blackhatv11> can i check if i have a firewall up with ubunut?
[00:27] <tripi> xomp: yes.. lokkit is a simple one
[00:27] <alex-stag> the prog exits too
[00:27] <xomp> tripi, cool, never knew lol
[00:27] <lyk3n> store closing no more wifi
[00:27] <tripi> xomp: or u go by editing iptables
[00:27] <Pici> xomp: the standard is iptables in Ubuntu
[00:27] <lyk3n> cya
[00:27] <alex-stag> is there any command to exit terminal withou exiting the program?????
[00:28] <Funaust> anyone help me figure out how to make my net111v2 wireless dongle successfully connect me to the internet? i have already done all of the /etc/interface crap.... and i am at zero success
[00:28] <unop> alex-stag, what program?
[00:28] <alex-stag> enithing
[00:28] <tripi> alex-stag: what d u mean?
[00:28] <unop> alex-stag, type  exit
[00:28] <alex-stag> si start a programm
[00:28] <Pici> alex-stag: No. You can either run your program in a 'screen' session or execute it by doing: nohup yourprogram &
[00:28] <alex-stag> from terminal
[00:28] <Pici> !screen > alex-stag
[00:28] <xomp> tripi, is it even neccesary to run a firewall in ubuntu?
[00:29] <tripi> alex-stag: to start a porg form terminal and than exiting the tem without quitting the prog use "progname &"
[00:29] <unop> panserbjorn, hmm, well, does   sudo aptitude install  #still complain?
[00:29] <tripi> xomp: well who can say no ;-)
[00:29] <panserbjorn> unop: i dont believe that we tried that one. lemme try, brb
[00:29] <tripi> xomp: in my ubuntu box in univ. i use lokkit
[00:30] <xomp> tripi, heh, well it's nice to know one exists :)
[00:30] <Pici> !firewall | xomp
[00:30] <tripi> xomp: the best is iptables editing but it looked complicated to me
[00:30] <panserbjorn> unop:  [19:29] <unop> panserbjorn, hmm, well, does   sudo aptitude install  #still complain?<------ i dont understand
[00:30] <tripi> !firewall | tripi
[00:31] <afallenhope> !firewall
[00:31] <Chris_Foster> Hi, I have a REALLY dark moniter. I have the broghtness settings on my moniter maxed out, and I generally keep the kubuntu settings about mid range because that works well for me. I'm tring to play a game through wine (Dues Ex) and it is to dark and my flashlight runs out. I have the settings on the game maxed out and I maxed out the kubuntu settings. Anyone have A idea how I could increase it further?
[00:31] <afallenhope> firestarter sucks! lol.
[00:31] <unop> panserbjorn, run that command, see if you get any error messages?
[00:31] <tripi> afallenhope: yep i hate it too
[00:31] <Chris_Foster> wow, sorry for bad spelling
[00:31] <afallenhope> tripi, lol. gufw isn't that bad
[00:32] <afallenhope> Chris_Foster, have you tried checking the setting in Ubuntu to max the monitor out
[00:32] <cosmo-kramer> Chris_Foster: you can try increasing gamma in the game if possible
[00:32] <panserbjorn> unop: oh, just sudo aptitude install? i have never seen that without something on the end, lol
[00:32] <tripi> Chris_Foster: can u modify the gamma of your gfx card?
[00:32] <Chris_Foster> afallenhope: I've tried increasing it in the game, and in my kubuntu settings, they are both at max brightness
[00:32] <afallenhope> Chris_Foster, what about the monitor itself/
[00:33] <Chris_Foster> tripi: im not sure if I have a gfx card, how could I find out?
[00:33] <Chris_Foster> afallenhope: yes, its maxed out
[00:33] <unop> panserbjorn, if no package is mentioned - aptitude tries to verify that there are no broken packages, if there are any, it tries to repair the condition.
[00:33] <tripi> Chris_Foster: u have to have one :)
[00:33] <afallenhope> I'm stumped
[00:33] <Denethor> Anyone know where the passwords is stored in ubuntu?
[00:33] <panserbjorn> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49878/
[00:33] <tripi> Chris_Foster: i mean a graphic card , sorry
[00:33] <bastid_raZor> tripi; gfx is a fairly sad way to say graphics
[00:33] <emja> does anyone know if the Realtek 8102 NIC is fully supported by hardy?
[00:34] <Chris_Foster> tripi: lol, okay i see. How could I up the brightness>
[00:34] <Denethor> thought it was in /etc/passwd but that is something totally diffrent
[00:34] <tripi> bastid_raZor: i realized, sorry, i'm italian afterall ... :P
[00:34] <Chris_Foster> afallenhope: thanks anyways
[00:34] <Pici> Denethor: /etc/shadow
[00:34] <Denethor> thx Pici
[00:35] <unop> panserbjorn, ok,  run this command.  echo 'exit 0' | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/havp.postrm;  sudo aptitude install
[00:35] <JunTao> I have to enable the history file somehow to log commands?
[00:35] <panserbjorn> unop: kk, brb
[00:36] <unop> JunTao, that is already enabled by default.
[00:36] <unop> JunTao, with bash i.e. - assuming you are talking about bash
[00:36] <el3allali> hello
[00:36] <JunTao> yes but I can't see it when i cat ~/.history
[00:37] <unop> JunTao, the file is ~/.bash_history
[00:37] <nonewmsgs> how do youi enable the restricted ati driver?
[00:37] <nonewmsgs> !ati
[00:37] <JunTao> unop oh silly me thanks
[00:37] <Intertricity> Is there a way to run a windows install under ubuntu to access certain drivers so I don't have to dual boot?
[00:37] <panserbjorn> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49881/
[00:38] <unop> Intertricity, virtualbox allows you to run windows in a VM - side by side with linux  .. on the flip side, andlinux allows you to run ubuntu inside windows, side-by-side
[00:38] <Intertricity> unop: would this allow me to access an unsupported scanner?
[00:38] <unop> panserbjorn, finally, i believe you are sorted now
[00:39] <unop> Intertricity, assuming you allow the VM direct access to the USB interface, this should be possible, yes
[00:39] <panserbjorn> unop: ok, i have a nasty apache2 server error as well, care to take a crack at that one? :)
[00:39] <Intertricity> phew, thanks a bunch unop, I'll look into this :) I have a 4600 scanner that has no SANE support
[00:39] <Killer--Tux> hello to all
[00:40] <blackhatv11> thanks guys
[00:40] <unop> panserbjorn, i can try - though i am not an expert at apache
[00:40] <Killer--Tux> i was wondering on how to create a proxy server on ubuntu  ?!? is that possible
[00:40] <panserbjorn> Intertricity: thats funny, my wife doenst have SANE support either, lol
[00:40] <unop> ha ha
[00:40] <Intertricity> Oah, same scanner? :P
[00:41] <Slade> What is a good DVD player for Ubuntu?
[00:41] <panserbjorn> unop: i will paste this error in just a sec
[00:41] <lacy>  I  have a  question for some reason im able to listen to shoutcast streaming radio stations and they come threw my  usb speakers  but i went to  youtube  and i can't hear no sound on videos ?
[00:41] <tripi> Slade: VLC is fine for me
[00:41] <Xyc0> I have a VIA VT6421A Serial RAID Controller that Ubuntu recognizes but doesn't see any drives attached, can someone halp me?
[00:41] <bulent> gaintsura : are you here
[00:42] <Slade> tripi: usually for me too. But it won't play this DVD. Windows will play it, but it asks about some kind of Location thing
[00:42] <gaintsura> perhaps =)
[00:42] <Killer--Tux> can someone give me some info on how to create a proxy server in ubuntu
[00:42] <Xyc0> Slade: what DVD?
[00:42] <matrix_> hi i deleted some files ,even from the trash is there any way to recover them
[00:42] <Slade> 1408 with John Cusac
[00:42] <tripi> Slade: tried with avidemux? Well we cnat call it a player indeed
[00:43] <davidroderick> what is difference between dkpg and rpm?
[00:43] <ti8shbi> killer--tux ... maybe apache could help you with your proxy prob :)
[00:43] <blackhatv11> does p2p go through tcp connections
[00:43] <nate_> how do i lunch startup manager in terminal
[00:43] <nate_> ?
[00:43] <danbh_intrepid> Killer--Tux: do you want something like squid?
[00:44] <unop> nate_, hmm, gnome-session-properties #perhaps
[00:44] <matrix_> hi i deleted some files ,even from the trash is there any way to recover them
[00:44] <tripi> nate_:  are u talking of gnome-session-properties ?
[00:45] <panserbjorn> unop: here is the error i get, sorry it toook awhil;e to find it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/49886/
[00:45] <Slade> tripi: dont have avidemux
[00:45] <danbh_intrepid> matrix_: I think there is a program called ext2undel or something, but in general, the answer is no
[00:45] <nate_> i dont know what that means
[00:45] <heygabe> Is there any way to open a ¨Pages¨ file in Ubuntu?
[00:45] <nate_> i just want to fix startup manager
[00:45] <lacy> I  have a  question for some reason im able to listen to shoutcast streaming radio stations and they come threw my  usb speakers  but i went to  youtube  and i can't hear no sound on videos ?
[00:45] <tripi> Slade it is and editro much than a player ...
[00:45] <nate_> when ever i try to add a new upsplash or anthing it closes
[00:45] <Chris_Foster> is it possible not to have a graphics card? Cant it be a "chipset" or something, because I dont think i have one when I looked, where would it be located?
[00:45] <danbh_intrepid> lacy: try opening gstreamer-properties, and switching to alsa
[00:45] <Killer--Tux> i dont know much about proxys
[00:45] <Xyc0> Slade: sorry, I tried looking but the title 1408 is too vague for me to figure out what is going on with it
[00:46] <danbh_intrepid> Killer--Tux: then why do you want to set one up?
[00:46] <Killer--Tux> but i was wondering if it possible to make one with ubuntu
[00:46] <Xyc0> Slade:  It sounds like there is copy protection on it
[00:46] <tripi> nate_: gdmsetup?
[00:46] <danbh_intrepid> Xyc0: 1408 is a movie
[00:46] <Xyc0> Anyone know anything about SATA Raid controllers in Ubuntu?
[00:46] <davidroderick> matrix_: was you question about a deleted ext2 partition? I just got here
[00:46] <Xyc0> danbh_intrepid: I know this, try googling for it and copy protection
[00:46] <unop> panserbjorn, ok, run this command, a URL will be given when it completes, paste that here    sudo aptitude install pastebinit; { ls -l /etc/apache2 ; cat /etc/apache2/apache2.conf } | pastebinit
[00:46] <Killer--Tux> is it that hard to set one up ?!?
[00:46] <matrix_> nope i deleted some files from my home folder matrix and then i delted them from trash how can i recover them
[00:47] <Xyc0> danbh_intrepid: It gets a little confused
[00:47] <xomp_> RAGE!! I'm trying to follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 but am getting the error "E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>" please halp!
[00:47] <lacy> danbh_intrepid  where do i find gstreamer-properties at ?
[00:47] <panserbjorn> unop: kk
[00:47] <unop> panserbjorn, errm, sorry.  sudo aptitude install pastebinit; { ls -l /etc/apache2 ; cat /etc/apache2/apache2.conf;} | pastebinit
[00:47] <Xyc0> bah, ill brb afk
[00:47] <danbh_intrepid> xomp_: check your sources
[00:47] <nate_> when i did gdmsetup it gave me sesgmentation fault tripi
[00:47] <panserbjorn> unop: kk
[00:47] <danbh_intrepid> lacy: a terminal
[00:47] <matrix_> i deleted some files from my home folder matrix and then i delted them from trash how can i recover them
[00:47] <HappyHater> matrix_, once you deleted them, there's no going back
[00:47] <moby> linux sux :|
[00:48] <matrix_> :(
[00:48] <alex-stag> go for windows then
[00:48] <moby> realy now
[00:48] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, sorry, but what does it mean to check my sources? what am I supposed to be checking in my sources?
[00:48] <tripi> nate: lunched with sudo?
[00:48] <HollywoodJumper> what is the terminal command for to get banshee
[00:48] <moby> i dont love windows
[00:48] <nate_> yup
[00:48] <Xyc0> moby: Mac is good if you can afford it
[00:48] <moby> but come on
[00:48] <alex-stag> who does?
[00:48] <HollywoodJumper> i very much dislike windows
[00:48] <zimbres> Does anyone here has already installed the software LastWave?
[00:48] <Xyc0> moby: Linux is better if you know how
[00:48] <moby> win xp beats the crapp out of ani linux distro
[00:48] <panserbjorn>   sudo aptitude install pastebinit; { ls -l /etc/apache2 ; cat /etc/apache2/apache2.conf;} | pastebinit
[00:48] <panserbjorn> [19:47] <Xyc0> bah, ill brb afk
[00:48] <alex-stag> i agree
[00:49] <danbh_intrepid> xomp_: check to make sure you have the default sources, also, can you paste the results of: uname -a      ?
[00:49] <tripi> nate_: ouch, no idea at the moment sorry
[00:49] <matrix_> are you there davidroderick
[00:49] <panserbjorn> whoops
[00:49] <Xyc0> panserbjorn: lol
[00:49] <nate_> -_-
[00:49] <panserbjorn> o.0
[00:49] <bazz> is there a package that has a 32 bit version of libgtk-x11-2.0 in it?  i need to compile something using winegcc which wants a 32 bit version of the lib so i can't use the one in the dev package
[00:49] <Xyc0> i know I lied
[00:49] <Xyc0> im really afk now
[00:49] <davidroderick> use sudo apt-get install testdisk  ; it has a companion for this. called photorec. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[00:49] <heygabe> Is there any way to open a .pages file in Linux?
[00:49] <moby> im using linux for 2 years now i i can onestly say my head got double in size
[00:49] <nate_> can u point me to somewhere where i can get help
[00:49] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, I have the standard sources since this is a new install so I'm not sure what to be on the look out for in my software sources. "uname -r" gives 2.6.24-19-generic
[00:50] <moby> and not that mutch to pay for it
[00:50] <HollywoodJumper> can i use sudo apt to get banshee?
[00:50] <moby> wasted time
[00:50] <Chris_Foster> is it possible not to have a graphics card? Cant it be a "chipset" or something, because I dont think i have one when I looked, where would it be located?
[00:50] <tripi> heygabe: what kind of file is a -page file?
[00:50] <zimbres> I was told i should use sh instead of bash to install one software, does this make any sense?
[00:50] <alex-stag> i call it hobby
[00:50] <unop> HollywoodJumper, i think you mean apt-get -- sure.   sudo apt-get install banshee
[00:50] <JunTao> does anyone know how often .bash_history gets updated?
[00:50] <unop> JunTao, once everytime you log out :)
[00:50] <unop> zimbres, not really
[00:51] <JunTao> hes probably right
[00:51] <JunTao> let me see
[00:51] <tripi> Chris_Foster: yes probably u hav a chipset for graphics
[00:51] <HollywoodJumper> yes apt-get thank you very much you rock!
[00:51] <davidroderick> testdisk is incredible but it really works
[00:51] <Chris_Foster> tripi: thanks
[00:51] <midnightRmbler> what is testdisk?
[00:51] <sacrebleu> how do i manipulate display driver settings?
[00:52] <gkelly> grr...I have /lib/readline.so.5 and /lib in /etc/ld.so.conf; I've run `sudo ldconfig`; gcc -lreadline still can't find libreadline!!
[00:52] <wally> birk
[00:52] <tripi> midnightRmbler: an app to recover partiion tables, mbr and so forth
[00:52] <nate_> does anyone no how to get startup manager fixed when i try to add new upsplashs or grub backgrounds it closes
[00:52] <midnightRmbler> tripi: thnks
[00:52] <venger> where is can see the mostly recently installed packages?  I allowed gdeb to install something and i'm not sure what all dependencies it pulled in
[00:53] <tripi> nate_: i can search for the config file somewhere
[00:53] <tripi> nate: i meant you (not me)
[00:53] <nate_> do u think if i reinstalled startup manager that would fix it?
[00:53] <jimmygoon> My wifi on campus has many AP with the same ESSID
[00:53] <jimmygoon> Is there anyway to be able to choose the one to connect to
[00:53] <venger> gdebi to be more precise
[00:54] <tripi> nate_: dont nknow if it will overwrite his config
[00:54] <darkscrypt> can you use aptoncd on a redhat based system to create packages for an ubuntu system?
[00:54] <panserbjorn> unop: a lil prob: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49888/
[00:54] <tripi> nate_: but u cna try
[00:54] <JunTao> isn't it 'bash' to open a new terminal?
[00:54] <darkscrypt> gnome-terminal?
[00:54] <JunTao> ye
[00:54] <tripi> JunTao: no
[00:54] <JunTao> i thought thats what it was in fedora
[00:54] <JunTao> but i'm on ubuntu now
[00:55] <nate_> well how can i completely get rid of it so i can reinstall (im still a noob so i need the codes) tripi
[00:55] <tripi> JunTao: bash just swith to bash shell
[00:55] <darkscrypt> JunTao, i'm in fedora but gnome-terminal is a gnome thing
[00:55] <Slade> Xyc0-AFK: shouldnt be. Im not copying it. It's a DVD i bought at the store
[00:55] <darkscrypt> not so much a fed thing
[00:55] <lacy> danbh_intrepid does Mozilla need some kinda plug in  its just on the web  i can play files  like music and movie files i just can't play them on the web
[00:55] <blackhatv11> I'm a little concerned about ubuntu security. is it probable that someone could "hack" my laptop from the network and screw with something?
[00:55] <JunTao> tripi so then?
[00:55] <tripi> nate_: i dont know where startup manager puts his config...
[00:55] <tripi> JunTao: what do you need?
[00:55] <JunTao> tripi open new terminal from terminal :D
[00:56] <tripi> JunTao: start a new terminal from a termina
[00:56] <danbh_intrepid> lacy: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:56] <maxer> is there a default firewall on ubuntu?
[00:56] <tripi> JunTao: gnome-terminal
[00:56] <tripi> JunTao: xterm
[00:56] <grizlo42> hi i am looking into buying a new desktop, in the $600 price range
[00:56] <blackhatv11> maxer: iptables
[00:56] <danbh_intrepid> !firewall > maxer
[00:56] <maxer> i cant access some ports
[00:56] <grizlo42> and i want it to run ubuntu
[00:56] <tripi> JunTao: but gnome terminal supports tabs
[00:56] <tripi> JunTao: and from the menu also new terminal windows
[00:56] <unop> panserbjorn, errm ok - leave it be - basically your apache.conf is complaining about the fact that you are missing a clutch.conf file (i dunno what clutch is, maybe you do) - so you have two options now, edit your apache2.conf to remove mention of clutch.conf or configure clutch properly?  what do you want to do?
[00:56] <grizlo42> i don't want it to come with vista cause thats a waste of money
[00:56] <JunTao> tripi thanks :) yep
[00:56] <grizlo42> any ideas what company to look in to?
[00:56] <mylogic> grizlo42: Dell sells preloaded ubuntu desktops
[00:57] <tripi> nate_:  pls hold on
[00:57] <Slade> anyone else?
[00:57] <grizlo42> desktops?!
[00:57] <Slade> could there be a codec i don't have?
[00:57] <panserbjorn> unop: i have NO idea what it means, but it causes random crashes when i am browsing the web :(
[00:57] <grizlo42> when i clicked on their ubuntu section they were all desktops
[00:57] <danbh_intrepid> !medibuntu > Slade
[00:57] <unop> panserbjorn, paste /etc/apache2/conf.d/clutch.conf
[00:58] <mylogic> grizlo42: looking for a laptop? I bought a preloaded laptop from them, one second and I'll link you
[00:58] <maxer> how do i see my iptables conf?
[00:58] <panserbjorn> unop: kk, brb
[00:58] <grizlo42> i don't want a laptop
[00:58] <tripi> nate_: i'm looking for info u'd need
[00:58] <grizlo42> i want a desktop
[00:58] <mylogic> grizlo42: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[00:58] <danbh_intrepid> maxer: please see the message that ubottu sent you
[00:58] <grizlo42> also
[00:58] <borsanian> hi all, is anyone on 8.10 Alpha and having a problem with complex characters input?
[00:58] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, I have the standard sources since this is a new install so I'm not sure what to be on the look out for in my software sources. "uname -r" gives 2.6.24-19-generic
[00:58] <danbh_intrepid> !intrepid > borsanian
[00:59] <lacy> thanks danbh_intrepid :)
[00:59] <danbh_intrepid> xomp_: and you cant find the headers for that?
[00:59] <iglo1> anyone able to help me with a boot problem?
[00:59] <maxer> i have no iptables rules but i cant seem to access some ports
[00:59] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, nope, it's not finding them for some reason
[00:59] <grizlo42> also what is a better 64 bit processor, Intel Pentium Dual Core or Intel 2 Core Dup?
[00:59] <grizlo42> *duo
[00:59] <stweston> I need some help. FactTech can describe it. I think.
[00:59] <mylogic> grizlo42: I would go witht he intel 2 duo
[00:59] <FactTech> Anybody with experience debugging samba issues have time for a quick consultation?
[01:00] <borsanian> oops, time to change room.
[01:00] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, in my source list I have "source code" checked
[01:00] <FactTech> stweston -- Who are you talking to?
[01:00] <stweston> anyone.
[01:00] <grizlo42> ok
[01:00] <grizlo42> thanks
[01:00] <FactTech> All -- stweston is looking for help getting past a busybox prompt on boot from a CD.
[01:00] <bwald> what is the standard script for suspending? it works when I use the GUI in Gnome, but I want to start using fluxbox and I don't know where the suspend/hibernate scripts are
[01:00] <stweston> FactTech: I'm gonna reboot.
[01:00] <danbh_intrepid> xomp_: well, I would ask that you pastebin the error that you are having.  Maybe that can shed some light
[01:00] <tripi> nate_: pls look at my PM
[01:00] <hikenboot> anyone in here able to point me to a doc on how to minimize python installation trying to sqeeze it in 3-4 meg if possible
[01:00] <iglo1> i have a pastebin of my error if someone could help
[01:01] <stweston> ctrl+alt+del pressed.
[01:01] <Xyc0> I am having issues getting hardy to see my SATA drive
[01:01] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, http://pastebin.com/d653ceb23
[01:01] <iglo1> http://pastebin.com/m7673534b
[01:01] <danbh_intrepid> !ask > iglo1
[01:01] <stweston> I'm at the boot screen thing.
[01:01] <maxer> i cant access my rails mongrel cluster with my browser- theres no firewall, im lost
[01:02] <stweston> FactTech: I'm at the opening Xubuntu screen.
[01:02] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, what items should I have checked in Software Sources on the "Ubuntu Software" tab? Because everything is checked :/
[01:02] <tripi> nate_: that startup manager is not  really safe
[01:02] <danbh_intrepid> xomp_: well, you dont need sources
[01:02] <FactTech> Question: Anybody on now with Samba experience that can help with a quick debug? I'm having trouble connecting to a Windows server on the local network.
[01:02] <panserbjorn> unop: will you be around later?
[01:02] <Elda> Sorry to bother, but for the life of me I cannot recall the name of the codecs one would download from the repository for Amarok.  Anyone have an idea?
[01:03] <tripi> nate_: in red is written "WARNING!
[01:03] <tripi> If you are unlucky, this tool could make your system unable to start.
[01:03] <danbh_intrepid> xomp_: what release are you using?
[01:03] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, ok, what about the "Third Party" tab? Anything in there need to be checked for this to work?
[01:03] <unop> panserbjorn, i'm off to bed in a bit - it's 01:03 am here
[01:03] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, Hardy
[01:03] <Elda> I recall them being under the restricted drivers by chane? :>
[01:03] <iglo1> after a fresh install of eeexubuntu 7.10 i ran synaptic to install updates. they installed successfully and i rebooted the computer after making a custom change to fstab and when it rebooted i got that error
[01:03] <Slade> danbh_intrepid: does the disc need to be unmounted when trying to play it?
[01:03] <Elda> *chance
[01:03] <anars> Why does the standard Ubuntu installation have two sysloggers and two cronjob daemons?
[01:03] <Elda> Shouldn't a disk be mounted when you want to play it?
[01:03] <danbh_intrepid> xomp_: in theory, all should be unchecked
[01:03] <panserbjorn> unop: kk, i gotta jet myself, thanks for all your help, i will see you around
[01:03] <panserbjorn> take care everybody
[01:03] <danbh_intrepid> Slade I think it hsould be mounted
[01:03] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, ok, I checked them all and will retry
[01:04] <Ramblurr> is there a mysql embedded package for hardy?
[01:04] <tripi> anars: i asked myself the same :)
[01:04] <danbh_intrepid> xomp_: 32bit?
[01:04] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, yes
[01:04] <Xyc0> I very much need help with a SATA controller
[01:04] <bwald> does anyone know where the suspend/hibernate scripts live?  I've tried running some of the things in /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux but they don't seem to work, what does KDE use when you select "Suspend" with the GUI?
[01:05] <stweston> I need help fixing a busybox+initramfs problem.
[01:05] <anars> tripi: what did you do about it? did you disable one of each?
[01:05] <tripi> anars: i just leave them as they are
[01:05] <Slade> Well, Totem keeps saying it cannot read from resource
[01:06] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, I don't think it's going to work lol, I have everything checked and all but it still can't find those kernel headers :S
[01:06] <tripi> anars: they really dont disturb me in any manner
[01:06] <anars> tripi: I'll do the same, then. I can't seem to find anyting on the Internet about this though
[01:06] <xomp_> danbh_intrepid, but thanks for helping anyway. Das vidanya \o
[01:06] <anars> tripi: me neither - I was just curious, and I'm sure there's a good reason.
[01:06] <stweston> does anyone know of a way to fix busybox+initramfs screens on install?
[01:06] <nate_> tripi im back
[01:06] <iglo1> http://pastebin.com/m7673534b
[01:06] <danbh_intrepid> xomp: are you the same person?
[01:06] <tripi> anars: i gave myself tha same answer and left them there at their job (little in my case)
[01:07] <xomp> danbh_intrepid, yup
[01:07] <xomp> danbh_intrepid, I was in my bedroom on my laptop trying that heh
[01:07] <Xyc0> where is the pcitable
[01:07] <danbh_intrepid> xomp: you could try this command EXACTLY: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ && sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[01:08] <bwald> Zyc0: locate pcitable
[01:08] <bwald> Zyc0: what is your problem?
[01:08] <stweston> all - I need help making a xubuntu install work. I don't know how to work with (initramfs) prompts!
[01:09] <stweston> in BusyBox
[01:09] <anars> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5844017 can somebody take a look at this, please? It's about the two sysloggers and cronjob daemons in Ubuntu
[01:09] <unop> danbh_intrepid, i wonder what the significance of  ^ is there
[01:09] <HollywoodJumper> ubuntu was unable to mount my external hardrive what should i do ?
[01:09] <aXeus> How is the default ubuntu user privlaged?
[01:09] <stweston> admin, I think
[01:10] <stweston> aXeus: admin, is my guess
[01:10] <unop> aXeus, only by being a member of the admin group - that's all
[01:10] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: how is the harddrive formatted?
[01:10] <HollywoodJumper> in ntfs
[01:10] <zimbres> how do i run 'make' in sh instead of bash?
[01:10] <unop> aXeus, that does not give the user any extra privileges except the ability to use sudo
[01:10] <aXeus> unop: thanks. That's what I was wondering
[01:10] <unop> zimbres, sh -c 'your command here'
[01:11] <HollywoodJumper> !daemon
[01:11] <stweston> everybody: I need help with a xubuntu installation. BusyBox+initramfs prompts.
[01:11] <ubuntuman> !idea
[01:12] <HollywoodJumper> bwald ubuntu said i could try to force it at my own risk
[01:12] <stweston> what's with the !s before the phrases... pardon my nubishness.
[01:12] <ubuntuman> oh man they changed it i forget where to submit an idea
[01:12] <ubuntuman> !ubottu
[01:12] <HollywoodJumper> !ubottu
[01:12] <xomp> danbh_intrepid, thanks, but I think I'm gonna pass on trying it lol. I can't begin to tell you how many times Hardy has had to been reinstalled on that laptop all because of issues on following Ubuntu Documentation to get something working lol.
[01:13] <danbh_intrepid> unop: its a tasksel command
[01:13] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: sorry, I'm trying to find you the right HowTo right now
[01:13] <stweston> Please HELP... I need to fix this busybox+initramfs prompt!
[01:13] <unop> danbh_intrepid, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^   is a tasksel command?
[01:13] <HollywoodJumper> bwald sweet thanks
[01:13] <danbh_intrepid> unop: I believe it goes like something like this: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ == sudo tasksel install ubuntu-desktop
[01:14] <stweston> anyone?
[01:15] <unop> danbh_intrepid, hmm, where can i find more info on this?
[01:15] <bwald> stweston: what error are you getting?
[01:15] <stweston> I'm not getting any error.
[01:15] <stweston> I'm just getting a busybox prompt...
[01:15] <Elda> !ubotu codecs
[01:15] <Elda> !codecs
[01:15] <stweston> then the line starts with (initramfs)
[01:15] <katie> hi can anyone help me i downloaded a messenger called IMVU and it was working for a while and now it wont work at all
[01:15] <unop> danbh_intrepid, because the apt-get manpage says ^ is a regular expression metacharacter - if that's the case, your command should fail by any means
[01:15] <Jacobbs> stweston, is the disc burned properly?
[01:15] <nicklas1> #ubuntu-se doesn't work
[01:16] <bwald> stweston: are you using wubi?
[01:16] <fignuts> what's this roaming mode?
[01:16] <stweston> I believe so. I've tried two disks, neither worked. no wubi
[01:16] <stweston> I don't have a big enough HDD for wuib
[01:16] <Jacobbs> When you stick the disk in
[01:16] <tripi> katie: u made some change on it?
[01:16] <Jacobbs> hmm
[01:16] <katie> no i havent done anything to it
[01:16] <stweston> huh?
[01:16] <katie> it hasnt worked for about two weeks
[01:16] <bwald> stweston: you're having trouble installing ubuntu?
[01:16] <nkei0> IntuitiveNipple: You there?
[01:16] <tripi> katie: is it starting?
[01:17] <stweston> no. xubuntu... yes, I guess.
[01:17] <katie> tripi: nope it attempts to start up and then nothing happens
[01:17] <IntuitiveNipple> nkei0: yeah, but I'm involved in a tricky system recovery right now
[01:17] <nkei0> IntuitiveNipple: Ahh, alright I'll look elsewhere then.
[01:18] <tripi> katie: tried removin it and reinstalling?
[01:18] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: try this, http://tinyurl.com/3qog3y
[01:18] <Elda> Oh poo... I just set the wrong set of codecs to download :(  Is there a *HUGE* difference between ubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[01:18] <|unjustice|> anyone know of a good CD/DVD r/RW that is easily configured to Ubuntu, KDE, and generally free OS's?
[01:18] <katie> no because i have no clue how to reinstall it my friend did it the first time i dont even know how to uninstall it
[01:19] <IntuitiveNipple> nkei0: no luck with the slow DNS look-ups then?
[01:19] <stweston> I need help with installing xubuntu. I keep getting busybox prompts with lines starting w/ (initramfs)
[01:19] <Elda> katie, imVU is the 3d chat program correct?
[01:19] <katie> yes it is
[01:19] <Elda> Okay well have you tried uninstalling it through wine?
[01:19] <danbh_intrepid> unop: well, I just got the command from some an upgrade document.  I'll peak at the man page, just out of curiosity.  But you should try it.    No luck, i've reset cable receiver and router and even reset all of the defaults and went back through the settings and made sure it was all good.
[01:20] <katie> yes im uninstalling it now
[01:20] <mltdwn> hey all
[01:20] <katie> will someone be able to help me reinstall it
[01:20] <Elda> If it's a windows client I assume she would use either wine or yucky cedega :|
[01:20] <stweston> bwald: it shows, it runs, but the (initramfs) prompt is something I don't know how to work with.
[01:20] <tripi> u need the installer then...
[01:20] <nkei0> IntuitiveNipple: So, it gotta be something to do with this laptop or Ubuntu
[01:21] <Elda> It's not that hard to install, hehe
[01:21] <mltdwn> katie, what are you installing
[01:21] <tripi> IMVU mltdwn
[01:21] <Elda> Just download the file like you would in windows and do sudo wine "nameofimVUinstallerhere.exe"
[01:21] <nate_> tripi back didnt work
[01:21] <mib_5c5ivo> hi
[01:21] <lolmac> hi, mib_5c5ivo
[01:21] <alms> today i tried to install ubuntu on a standalone computer -- terrible experience -- lots of dependencies to install everything -- windows works great -- one disk per driver -- is there a solution to this for ubuntu/linux
[01:21] <bwald> stweston: I'm pretty sure the (initramfs) thing means your kernel is corrupted somehow, I've only seen the error you're getting when people try to hibernate windows and then boot a wubi'd ubuntu
[01:21] <katie> kk ill try it
[01:21] <mltdwn> tripi, never had to deal with or play that
[01:21] <Elda> Oh poo... I just set the wrong set of codecs to download :(  Is there a *HUGE* difference between ubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[01:22] <stweston> hm...
[01:22] <mib_5c5ivo> i'm need to perform a low level format in my hdd
[01:22] <stweston> bwald: I don't have the capability of wubi'ing it.
[01:22] <mib_5c5ivo> but i'm dont know the command line
[01:22] <Elda> !dualboot
[01:22] <Elda> You might find that useful alms
[01:22] <tripi> mltdwn: me neither
[01:22] <tripi> mltdwn: katie has that problem...
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> Elda: Possibly.  Ubuntu will have things specific to Totem and Gstreamer, and I'm not sure what Kubuntu uses.  Many likely will be the same, but there is definitely the possibility of differences.
[01:23] <rock__on> hi noobs
[01:23] <stweston> that was mean, Rock__on
[01:23] <FAJ> hi i am trying to get a laptop and a desktop to communicate, so I am using samba (both ubuntu) unfortunately, the desktop is not seeing the laptop; even in smbtree (i am still gettin an error message on both for smbtree too...) but can connect if i type in the ip... my desktop connects to another desktop fine, and my laptop to both desktops, so how can i get the desktop to see this laptop?
[01:23] <IntuitiveNipple> nkei0: Or your upstream DNS server that your router is using.
[01:23] <stweston> I think...
[01:23] <tripi> nate_: maybe there is a config file u'd delete but i really have no knowloedge of startup-manager
[01:23] <Elda> Would I be okay in just installing the kubuntu restricted drivers then after this installs? Or should I yank out the ubuntu restricted codecs frist?
[01:23] <rock__on> stweston: not mean, just unacceptably provocative.
[01:23] <Elda> drivers = codecs
[01:23] <stweston> oh...
[01:23] <stweston> ok
[01:23] <rock__on> anyway
[01:23] <rock__on> time
[01:23] <rock__on> to
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> Elda: just do both.
[01:23] <stweston> sorry
[01:23] <rock__on> rock
[01:23] <stweston> LOL
[01:23] <FloodBot1> rock__on: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:24] <alms> Ellda, what -- the problem is crazy dependencies -- not dual booting
[01:24] <nate_> i will talk it over with my linux teacher
[01:24] <nate_> thanks for the help
[01:24] <nkei0> IntuitiveNipple: How do I change that?
[01:24] <nkei0> IntuitiveNipple: Or even check that...?
[01:24] <FAJ> alms:  like what?  it shouldn't be that big of an issue
[01:24] <bwald> stweston: have you tried running a a disk check on your xubuntu install CD?
[01:24] <Elda> alms what do you mean?
[01:24] <rock__on> stweston: easy fix
[01:24] <mib_5c5ivo> anyone?
[01:24] <stweston> bwald: it never goes to the check... the busybox prompt always comes up
[01:25] <alms> FAJ, i can't install video drivers because Nvidia requires libc or something like that -- installing livetex was nearly impossible
[01:25] <rock__on> mib_5c5ivo: what was your question?
[01:25] <danbh_intrepid> unop: I see the mention of ^ in the man page.  That is referring to regex expression matching (which you know) where ^ is at the beginning of the term, and denoted that the term is the beginning of the desired result (which you may have already knew).  I guess since the ^ is at the end, apt is able to do something different
[01:25] <Elda> In just do both do you mean that I should remove it?  Or just install them both
[01:25] <alms> think i am going to move to open solaris
[01:25] <bwald> does anyone know where the suspend/hibernate scripts live?  I've tried running some of the things in /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux but they don't seem to work, what does KDE use when you select "Suspend" with the GUI?
[01:25] <FAJ> alms:  did you click on it in hardware drivers?
[01:25] <rock__on> alms: aptitude install build-essential
[01:25] <mib_5c5ivo> i'm need to perform a hdd low level format
[01:25] <tripi> mib_5c5ivo: i missed you question
[01:25] <rock__on> mib_5c5ivo: you want a new filesystem or zero the drive?
[01:26] <drone_> I've got a linux mint 5 install that boots up and has a totally blank black desktop and the only thing I can do is turn the cube and nothing else. I can't bring up the run dialog or anything else really. Any thoughts on what to do?
[01:26] <alms> rock__on, sorry, what does that do -- can i use that when disconnected from the network?
[01:26] <mib_5c5ivo> my hdd do not have file siystem
[01:26] <rock__on> alms: you need to have the package.. build-essential
[01:26] <unop> danbh_intrepid, perhaps, but that's really odd though - and there are no mentions of tasks or tasksel in the manpage either.
[01:26] <rock__on> alms: it will install libc, gcc, et al
[01:26] <rock__on> time to ROCK.
[01:26] <alms> oh --
[01:26] <mib_5c5ivo> i'm using the ubuntu live cd
[01:26] <stweston> bwald: I don't know how to do this...
[01:26] <alms> i guess i need to learn how to install stand-alone packages
[01:26] <tripi> mib_5c5ivo: use gparted to build partiton and format them
[01:26] <stweston> bwald: can you provide some examples?
[01:26] <bwald> drone_: can you go to a virtual terminal and run commands?
[01:27] <mib_5c5ivo> but ubuntu do not recognize the hdd
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[01:27] <FloodBot1> rock__on: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:27] <mib_5c5ivo> is full of errors
[01:27] <tripi> mib_5c5ivo: u wanto to install ubuntu on that drive?
[01:27] <FAJ> alms; you shouldn't have to install standalone packages for nvidia;
[01:27] <mib_5c5ivo> 3 diferent disk
[01:27] <Elda> tonyyarusso: In just do both do you mean that I should remove it?  Or just install them both
[01:27] <mib_5c5ivo> disks*
[01:27] <marcin> Hello World...:)
[01:27] <lolmac> hi, marcin
[01:27] <IntuitiveNipple> nkei0: In your router, there will be information on the DNS server it is using
[01:27] <bwald> stweston: when you first boot the disk, it should give you a menu of what you want, one of those options should be "check disk for errors," are you not even seeing that?
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> Elda: install both.  The only harm it will do is use an extra 20 MB or disk space or whatever, so I'm guessing that's not a big deal.
[01:28] <alms> FAJ, nvidia required libc
[01:28] <Guest6041> why when i try to play a track on audacity it says check sample rate and output device whats that mean
[01:28] <drone_> bwald_: I can only boot into a failsafe terminal and I tried running a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:28] <marcin> can anybody be kind to tell me how can I tell a module version - kvm and kvm_intel to be exact
[01:28] <FAJ> alms:  did you install it via hardware drivers?
[01:28] <drone_> and that didn't do anything
[01:28] <Elda> Yep, thought so but not in the mood to muck around if I break something hehe... thanks for the info :D
[01:28] <stweston> bwald: yes. it does. I tried check disk, but it does the same thing.
[01:28] <bwald> stweston: it should say "install," I haven't used xubuntu recently, but probably "run without installing" or something like that
[01:28] <Guest6041> why when i try to play a track on audacity it says check sample rate and output device whats that mean
[01:28] <stweston> bwald: no. it's just "try..." or "install xubuntu"
[01:28] <Guest6041> why when i try to play a track on audacity it says check sample rate and output device whats that mean
[01:28] <tripi> Guest6041: pls dont repeat
[01:29] <alms> FAJ -- i downloaded it from the web on another computer and then in ubuntu sh NVIDIA-installer
[01:29] <stweston> bwald: with other commands...
[01:29] <bwald> stweston: and I assume neither of them work, is there something funky on the harddrive?
[01:29] <FAJ> alms:  do you have internet?
[01:29] <Elda> tonyyarusso:  Actually hehe it actually only took up 1290k more ;)
[01:29] <stweston> bwald: no. Only win 98.
[01:29] <katie> it didnt work now its says wine isnt owned by me?
[01:29] <bwald> drone_: can you kill your X server and try to run commands?
[01:29] <Guest6041> why when i try to play a track on audacity it says check sample rate and output device whats that mean
[01:29] <stweston> bwald: there are other options, though.
[01:29] <alms> FAJ, not where this computer is
[01:30] <Oxygenfad> Hey guys
[01:30] <Oxygenfad> I just installed xfce
[01:30] <drone_> yeah, I can ctrl alt F1 and get there that way
[01:30] <bwald> stweston: what are the other options? I'm sorry I'm not familiar with the xubuntu install CD, but its probably similar to the normal one
[01:30] <marcin> kind people.... does anybody know how to tell a module version?
[01:30] <stweston> oxygenfad! I need your help!
[01:30] <tripi> Oxygenfad: :)
[01:30] <stweston> bwald: I need oxygenfad's help, I think...
[01:30] <stweston> bwald: you can still help, though.
[01:30] <bwald> drone_: which Window Manager/Desktop Environment are you trying to use?
[01:31] <Oxygenfad> lol
[01:31] <drone_> gnome
[01:31] <stweston> bwald: there's "check cd for errors", "test memory", and the standard "boot from harddisk".
[01:31] <stweston> bwald: to add to it.
[01:31] <bwald> stweston: thats fine, as long as you get your stuff fixed, thats all that matters
[01:31] <tripi> drone_:  gnome + metacty or compiz?
[01:31] <drone_> compiz
[01:31] <katie> Elda: i tried uninstalling it and it seems like it didnt work its still in my wine program
[01:31] <stweston> bwald: thanks nayway!
[01:31] <stweston> bwald: *anyway
[01:31] <bwald> stweston:  check CD for errors, first
[01:31] <stweston> bwald: that doesn't work.
[01:31] <bwald> stweston: just in case
[01:32] <Oxygenfad> Thing is, I deleted all panels cause I thought the right click menu was better. I realized now, programs like amarok need the task bar. I want it back. But I can seem to select the panel option now.
[01:32] <stweston> bwald: I can't check it for errors because it only does the same thing.
[01:32] <garyc> Is Dlink DGE-530T pci gigabit lan card plug and play on 6.06 Dapper Drake
[01:32] <bwald> stweston: that sounds like a CD burning problem then, that should launch its own kernel that doesn't touch anytihng else
[01:32] <marcin> bwald, dear Sir would you know how to check which module is loaded ?
[01:32] <tripi> drone_: try in a terminal: killall compiz(hit tab here); metacity;
[01:32] <stweston> bwald: what do you mean?
[01:32] <bartek> Hi there .. I am having major trouble getting my ATI card working on Hardy. I've followed a lot of guides and I think I am close. My main #1 issue is that when I try to use fglrx driver my screen doesnt just go black, it puts my Monitor into a Power Saving Mode .. anyone have any tips on where I can go from here?
[01:32] <bartek> I've followed the guides at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[01:32] <Rev_Willie_Crow> I just ordered a Geforce 9800 GTX. I'm I going to have a hard time getting it to work in ubuntu?
[01:33] <Oxygenfad> bartek :  change your power settings
[01:33] <drone_> alright, I'll give it a shot, thanks tripi
[01:33] <FAJ> !nvidia
[01:33] <tripi> drone_: sorry: killall compiz(hit tab); metacity &
[01:33] <FAJ> !ati
[01:33] <fignuts> which iso burner is recommended for ubuntu?
[01:33] <drone_> oh
[01:33] <bartek> Oxygenfad: er ..?
[01:33] <marcin> bartek, Polak?
[01:33] <drone_> ok
[01:33] <bartek> marcin: yes :)
[01:33] <fignuts> cd burner i mean
[01:33] <ubuntuman> rev_willie_crow nvidia in linux = evil use ati
[01:33] <tripi> drone_: last char is & not ;
[01:33] <drone_> oh ok
[01:33] <katie> Elda are u there?
[01:33] <drone_> thanks
[01:33] <stweston> bwald: I need your help again...
[01:33] <biouser> how to install perl to run a script?
[01:34] <ubuntuman> x3950xtx here and all open source drivers work flawlessly
[01:34] <bwald> stweston: the "check errors" part of the install CD is supposed to run a self check on the CD, I'm pretty sure its not very complicated, and if thats not working it strongly suggests you burned the install CD badly
[01:34] <tripi> biouser: what do u mean??
[01:34] <biouser> tripi, I need to have 5.8 or later
[01:34] <ubuntuman> i always had issuues with nvidia and linux
[01:34] <marcin> bartek, na tyle co sie znam to chyba tryb graficzny w ktory popada twoja karta jest no good wzgledem monitora
[01:34] <tripi> biouser: i'm a biologist too (if u are)
[01:34] <bartek> Oxygenfad: Can you explain a bit more what I need to do? I don't see what in Power Management I could change that would cause my monitor to die like that
[01:34] <stweston> bwald: well, then does that mean I need another CD???
[01:34] <bwald> marcin: you can try using dmesg, I think
[01:34] <Rev_Willie_Crow> I've never had much luck with ATI cards. They don't seem to hold up very well.
[01:35] <biouser> tripi, you could say that though I am more with the math these days
[01:35] <ubuntuman> ati is now open source
[01:35] <bwald> marcin: read the man page for it, I'm not sure
[01:35] <bartek> marcin: unfortunately I can't type in polish .. just speak it, lol sorry :P
[01:35] <ubuntuman> ati used to be evil before amd bought them
[01:35] <tripi> biouser: :) try in a terminal perl -v
[01:35] <ubuntuman> amd opened the source code for the catalyst drivers for linux
[01:35] <marcin> bartek, no problem
[01:35] <bwald> stweston: when you burned it, did you verify the data? what did you use to burn the CD?
[01:35] <biouser> http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/textogif/textogif.html#prereq  <- I am trying to make sure that I have these prerreqs.
[01:35] <bartek> Oxygenfad: Can you explain a bit more what I need to do? I don't see what in Power Management I could change that would cause my monitor to die like that
[01:35] <ubuntuman> so now they work
[01:35] <grim76> bartek: Is there another vga/dvi connector on your card?
[01:35] <marcin> bwald, great thanks
[01:35] <biouser> tripi, ^ thanks
[01:35] <Oxygenfad> And I just got booted when I disabled compiz
[01:35] <Oxygenfad> lol
[01:35] <stweston> bwald: I used a new MacBook.
[01:35] <marcin> bwald, just what I needed
[01:35] <tripi> biouser: thatt is u have 5.8.8
[01:36] <stweston> bwald: I didn't verify it, but I have now, and it should have wokred.
[01:36] <marcin> bartek, what does X log say?>
[01:36] <biouser> right, got it, how about netpbm and ghostscript...
[01:36] <Elda> Speaking of mac-books.  Hurray for the new PC commercials \o/
[01:36] <bartek> grim76: Yes .. my card has two connectors, and they are both connected (one is my TV, but I do not care about getting this working just yet)
[01:36] <Rev_Willie_Crow> nvidea may not be open, but they do support linux.
[01:36] <Oxygenfad> bartek: can you just change the settings so that your monitor never dims É I had something like this on my laptop. I changed it so it will never power save
[01:36] <stweston> elda: I hate the PCs!!!
[01:36] <bartek> marcin: one sec
[01:36] <grim76> bartek: You might try the monitor on the other connector.
[01:36] <Elda> Well you smell funny >.>
[01:36] <Elda> ;)
[01:36] <tripi> biouser: if u nedd detaild help on it ask i spent lot of time on perl+ bioperl
[01:36]  * Oxygenfad `s computer NOM NOM NOM
[01:36] <ubuntuman> ATI support is much better than nvidia now
[01:36] <stweston> elda: you're... kinda... weird...
[01:37] <nkei0> IntuitiveNipple: So, I checked out my router, found it and performed a dhcp release/renew so even with the new dns servers it's still slow
[01:37] <bwald> stweston: I'm sorry, I'm really not sure whats wrong with it if the data on the CD is not corrupt, it should at least boot the "check CD for defects" kernel, if nothing else
[01:37]  * Elda loves her lappy and her pc :>
[01:37] <ubuntuman> Rev_Willie_Crow: ATI now fully supports linux whilst nvidia only halfway supports Linux
[01:37] <stweston> bwald: are you sure it's not just because it's the linux kernel?
[01:37] <Elda> And even my other laptop which is my backup laptop when this one is in for repairs lol
[01:37] <katie> Elda: it keeps telling me that wine isnt owned by me
[01:37] <tripi> biouser: netpbm i dont know what is?
[01:37] <ubuntuman> Rev_Willie_Crow Nvidia funnels the speed in linux
[01:37] <biouser> tripi, cool, I am here often, I am trying to typeset math to web
[01:37] <stweston> bwald: should I get another HDD?
[01:37] <ubuntuman> AMD/ATI does not
[01:37] <bartek> grim76: I tried this and no change
[01:37] <Elda> katie, you have to use sudo wine
[01:38] <Elda> on nm!
[01:38] <Elda> Just use wine
[01:38] <katie> kk
[01:38] <bwald> stweston: if you're booting off a liveCD, then nothing touches your HDD, especially if you boot with the "try, not install" or "check CD for defects" options
[01:38] <Elda> I forgot... wine doesnt like it when you use sudo on it lol
[01:38] <katie> ill try
[01:38] <IntuitiveNipple> nkei0: do you have other PCs on the LAN that suffer the same slowness?
[01:38] <nkei0> IntuitiveNipple: Oh, actually it worked the second time I did it, sweet thanks for the help!
[01:38] <Elda> just wine installfile.exe
[01:38] <bwald> stweston: you could pull out the HD and it should still boot
[01:38] <tripi> biouser: hummm give a look at LaTex ...
[01:38] <grim76> bartek: ok sounds like it might be out of the resolution your monitor is able to display.  I am unsure how to change it, but that is what it sounds like.
[01:38] <marcin> bartek, I do not think that is't the card itself
[01:38] <garyc> ubuntuman: Is Dlink DGE-530T pci gigabit lan card plug and play on 6.06 Dapper Drake
[01:38] <stweston> bwald: oh...
[01:38] <marcin> bartek, grim76 is right
[01:38] <stweston> bwald: then what is the problem? are you sure it's not just the Linux kernel itself?
[01:38] <Elda> stweston: And yes I'm odd ;)
[01:39] <stweston> elda: LOL
[01:39] <Rev_Willie_Crow> As hardware goes though ATI cards seem a bit buggy. But I don't think I has to do with the drivers, but the hardware
[01:39] <ubuntuman> garyc why dont you use hardy?
[01:39] <bartek> marcin: The card is supported according to the ATI Driver wiki
[01:39] <biouser> tripi, yeah that's what this script is for, generating .gif from latex
[01:39] <IntuitiveNipple> nkei0: It's fixed? not slow?
[01:39] <tripi> biouser: a perl script?
[01:39] <bwald> stweston: it might be the kernel on your CD, but thats part of the data on the LiveCD; which is the thing I I think is probably corrupted
[01:39] <marcin> bartek, what card is it?
[01:39] <ubuntuman> all ATI cards fully work in Linux as they are now all Open Source
[01:39] <grim76> bartek: That doesn't necessarily mean that the monitor supports that resolution.
[01:39] <biouser> Ii think that might bee the most lightweight way to go, not sure tripi yeah
[01:39] <bartek> marcin/grim: I tried changing HorizSync and VertRefresh to match my monitor based on the manufactrer details but still nothing
[01:39] <katie> Elda: it says it couldnt load it and the module wasnt found
[01:39] <nkei0> IntuitiveNipple: Appears so.
[01:39] <bartek> marcin: ATI Radeon X850XT
[01:39] <ubuntuman> !ati
[01:39] <stweston> bwald: so, then you're implying that I need ANOTHER CD?
[01:39] <tripi> biouser: cool.. good luck:-)
[01:40] <marcin> bartek, I lower the resoultion first
[01:40] <Elda> Katie, that is because you need to navigate to the folder with the installer on it
[01:40] <biouser> tripi, where to put a perl script so that it will be on the path?
[01:40] <marcin> bartek, which Ubuntu?
[01:40] <biouser> \usr\bin\oerl?
[01:40] <bartek> ubuntu hardy
[01:40] <IntuitiveNipple> nkei0: Yay :D
[01:40] <tripi> in your home dir
[01:40] <garyc> ubuntuman:  I have been running 6.06 a long time.  don't want to switch yet.  support through 2011
[01:40] <katie> Elda: how do i do that?
[01:40] <bwald> stweston: I don't know what else it could be, it might be some esoteric error I know nothing about, but thats how it seems.  You say you've already burned two CDs, and neither one has had any errors?
[01:40] <Elda> IE open up your console and do cd until you get to your desktop directory
[01:40] <tripi> biouser: in you home
[01:40]  * IntuitiveNipple does the "another one down" dance :D
[01:40] <bartek> marcin: Ok, I'm sure I tried it but I will lower the resolution down
[01:40] <biouser> tripi, I want it to be in the path from anywhere though
[01:40] <bartek> Do you think Mesa drivers could be causing an issue?
[01:40] <bwald> stweston: can you make and md5 sum of the install CD and compare it to an ISO?
[01:40] <stweston> bwald: yes.
[01:40] <tripi> biouser: or in /usr/local/bin
[01:41] <qwm> bartek: you will lower the resolution DOWN? sure you don't want to lower it UP?
[01:41] <Elda> katie, do you know how to open your console?
[01:41] <Elda> If so just type cd Desktop
[01:41] <stweston> bwald: I probably should...
[01:41] <stweston> bwald: I'll do that.
[01:41] <Elda> and type dir, and tell me if you see it
[01:41] <katie> i have no clue
[01:41] <bwald> stweston: that'll at least tell if you the CDs are corrupt
[01:41] <bartek> qwm: In this case to see if my monitor isnt the issue  need to make it smaller
[01:41] <garyc> ;ubuntuman Is Dlink DGE-530T pci gigabit lan card plug and play on 6.06 Dapper Drake
[01:41] <Elda> the console is baseically like the dos prompt
[01:41] <bwald> stweston: and then you might need to revise your burning method, if it keeps producing coasters
[01:41] <tripi> biouser: i read it now, in /usr/local/bin i guess it will be fine
[01:41] <stweston> bwald: I only have one of the 2.
[01:41] <Elda> It should be under accessories I think (I am not in gnome atm so Im not 100% sure on that :>)
[01:41] <Circs> I'm trying to edit a config file but it will not let me, says It belongs to root, how can I edit it?
[01:41] <stweston> bwald: I also did it at the lowest speed.
[01:41] <biouser> tripi, ah, nice, ty
[01:41] <stweston> bwald: 10x
[01:42] <tripi> biouser: but it is a cgi script?
[01:42] <biouser> tripi, not sure
[01:42] <biouser> I think not
[01:42] <Rev_Willie_Crow> I am using a ATI Card now, a Radeon x1050, all I have had is trouble both in linux and windows.
[01:42] <Elda> Katie did you get it?
[01:42] <bwald> stweston: hrm, it would be pretty unlikely to have errors, but it doesn't hurt to check, at least until someone with more knowledge comes in who might be able to help you more
[01:42] <katie> by console do u mean terminal?
[01:42] <Elda> Yes terminal
[01:42] <tripi> biouser: so arent u running it on a webserver...
[01:42] <qwm> bartek: you were using REDUNDANT LANGUAGEE
[01:42] <Elda> just open that and type cd Desktop
[01:42] <bartek> qwm: sorry :)
[01:42] <elzurk> does ubuntu use uswsusp or tuxonice by default?
[01:42] <stweston> bwald: okay! thanks!
[01:42] <Elda> cd = change directory
[01:42] <Elda> so it will change you to the directory of your desktop
[01:43] <bwald> does anyone know where the suspend/hibernate scripts live?  I've tried running some of the things in /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux but they don't seem to work, what does KDE use when you select "Suspend" with the GUI?
[01:43] <biouser> tripi, I might try to get it to run when admins put in new info, but no I am just going to make the views use the gifs
[01:43] <Elda> At this point type, dir and tell me what you see
[01:43] <Elda> As dir = directory and it will list all the contents of it
[01:43] <tripi> biouser: fine... easier too
[01:43] <biouser> tripi, admins put in TeX, users see gifs...
[01:43] <stweston> bwald: which file do I use to represent the ISO?
[01:44] <katie> imvu.desktop   installimvu_402.0_st.exe    imvu.lnk
[01:44] <ben> ben
[01:44] <tripi> biouser: I see, for ghostscritp it should be already installed in ubuntu
[01:44] <Elda> katie: Awesome!  All you have to do now is type wine installimvu_402.0_st.exe
[01:44] <Elda> Or just start to type it and hit tab
[01:44] <bwald> stweston: the ISO is the one file you downloaded from xubuntu.com, that you then burned onto a CD.  It should be something like xubuntu-version#-foo-.ISO
[01:44] <Elda> It will then autocomplete it
[01:44] <stweston> bwald: okay
[01:44] <tripi> biouser: if not sudo apt-get install ghostscript
[01:45] <stweston> bwald: I mean... on the CD
[01:45] <katie> i think its working
[01:45] <Elda> Great :D
[01:45] <Elda> This is the first time I've really been able to help anyone with a linux problem xD
[01:45] <ben> i downloaded poweriso but it downloaded as an .exe file.  all the forums say to just run that but for some reason my wine doesnt run it
[01:46] <katie> now its says error writing crash log
[01:46] <bartek> wow this channel moves fast
[01:46] <garyc> ubuntuman:  I have been running 6.06 a long time.  don't want to switch yet.  support through 2011
[01:46] <marcin> dmesvirtls
[01:46] <Elda> bartek, there are 1.3k people in this channel.  It would be worried if it didnt ;)
[01:46] <garyc> ubuntuman: Is Dlink DGE-530T pci gigabit lan card plug and play on 6.06 Dapper Drake
[01:46] <bwald> stweston: the whole CD should be the ISO, the ISO translates into all the files/folders on the CD
[01:46] <biouser> ty, tripi, looks good so far...
[01:46] <ben> i downloaded poweriso but it downloaded as an .exe file.  all the forums say to just run that but for some reason my wine doesnt run it
[01:47] <bartek> marcin: What is the correct way to set my monitors resolution in Xorg.conf .. Is it using Subsection "Display" and then "Modes" ? I want to do this right
[01:47] <tripi> biouser: ur welcome
[01:47] <stweston> bwald: okay, then... I'll try to find a way to get the CD to copy to Terminal.
[01:47] <samson800> hello
[01:47] <lolmac> hi, samson800
[01:47] <stweston> bwald: since that's what I'm using.
[01:47] <grim76> ben: What is it that you are trying to do?
[01:47] <katie> Elda: it says there was a error writing crash log now what do i do?
[01:47] <samson800> hi
[01:47] <lolmac> hi, samson800
[01:47] <samson800> ubuntu
[01:47] <ben> install poweriso so that i can then install xp
[01:47] <Elda> katie... so did it not completely install?
[01:47] <samson800> i am having truble
[01:47] <bwald> stweston: your CD should be mounted in /media/cdrom
[01:47] <Elda> Sometimes it may make an error but perhaps did install it :>
[01:48] <grim76> ben: are you using ubuntu?
[01:48] <stweston> bwald: okay.
[01:48] <katie> it still isnt working:(
[01:48] <marcin> bartek, paste your xorg into ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:48] <mn> Man, I'm ready for Intrepid!
[01:48] <ben> i have ubuntu but i want xp for gaming
[01:48] <bartek> marcin: one sec .. i am not quite there yet, re-installing the drivers manually using this method: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide#Removing_Mesa_drivers
[01:48] <samson800> having truble with wireless driver for Compaq f500 laptop
[01:48] <bartek> (my best friend in my old city was named marcin ;) ... )
[01:49] <grim76> ben: then you will need to dual boot your system.  There are a ton of sites out there that cover that.  Plus don't PM someone....keep it in the channel so that others can learn.
[01:49] <katie> Elda: still nothing any ideas on what to try now?
[01:49] <marcin> bartek: well, well my pleasuer
[01:49] <marcin> bartek, :)
[01:49] <mn> grim76: What about virtual machines?
[01:49] <ben> i can figure out how to dual boot but i cant get the xp file to run because its a .daa
[01:49] <ben> i need to make it a iso and use poweriso to do it
[01:49] <garyc> anybody: Is Dlink DGE-530T pci gigabit lan card plug and play on 6.06 Dapper Drake
[01:49] <HollywoodJumper> alright so when i try to mount my external harddrive it says that logfile shows unclean shutdown
[01:49] <Elda> I mean you seem to have the link on your desktop
[01:49] <grim76> mn: Typically those won't give you the 3d necessary.
[01:49] <katie> i do
[01:50] <Elda> So try clicking it and see what happens
[01:50] <katie> kk
[01:50] <stweston> bwald: I have the results!
[01:50] <HollywoodJumper> am i ever going to be able to get the data off of the external?
[01:50] <mn> grim76: Oh, I didn't know that.
[01:50] <tripi> HollywoodJumper: is there windows on it?
[01:50] <eDRoaCH> daa is a mac image format (but i think theres windows progs that can read it) however i think ill take a wild guess and believe your windows daa is warez
[01:50] <Elda> Ive learned that linux complains a lot but it will still work at times... sort of like men ;)
[01:50]  * Elda hides
[01:50] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: I'm sorry, I send you a link a while ago, I thought it worked for you
[01:50] <stweston> bwald: apparrently, the ISO file checks out, but the CD doesn't.
[01:50] <HollywoodJumper> yes it is in ntfs format
[01:50] <Schuenemann> hey, how is Linux support for these integrated graphic cards, like the Intel GMA X3100?
[01:50] <katie> lol so true
[01:50] <stweston> bwald: I guess I'll have to burn it AGAIN
[01:50] <tripi> HollywoodJumper: so restart in win and exit properly
[01:50] <bwald> stweston: you mean the md5 sums don't match up?
[01:51] <stweston> bwald: exactly
[01:51] <eDRoaCH> Schuenemann: i have an x3100 in my laptop, runs ubu fine
[01:51] <HollywoodJumper> bwald your link was awesome but it didnt work because of unclean shutdown previously
[01:51] <katie> ok now im really confused it installed and it still isnt working
[01:51] <tripi> HollywoodJumper:then u should see it
[01:51] <eDRoaCH> before 8.04 though youll need to do some tricks to get compiz working
[01:51] <Elda> Hmmm what is it saying now?
[01:51] <bwald> stweston: yeah, it sounds like it was burned badly, you're using Disk Utility to burn it?
[01:51] <eDRoaCH> with 8.04 native
[01:51] <Schuenemann> eDRoaCH, compiz, blender, games?
[01:51] <stweston> bwald: yes
[01:51] <katie> Elda: nothing its just not starting
[01:51] <HollywoodJumper> if i force into my external will i lose all data?
[01:51] <eDRoaCH> well its not a powerful card so dont expect great performance in quake 13
[01:51] <bwald> stweston: make sure you select "verify written data" when you burn it, it'll make the process longer but its definitly worth it
[01:52] <Elda> Let me see what I can find on that then
[01:52] <stweston> bwald: all right.
[01:52] <eDRoaCH> but i was playing nexuz (er that fps however you spell it) and having a blast
[01:52] <katie> ok
[01:52] <stweston> bwald: how do I select that?...
[01:52] <tripi> HollywoodJumper: try to resart in xp with it and exit properly
[01:52] <samson800> hello
[01:52] <lolmac> hi, samson800
[01:52] <bwald> stweston: also, I'd verify that the ISO's md5sum is the same the website provides
[01:52] <Schuenemann> eDRoaCH, what is a blast?
[01:52] <tripi> HollywoodJumper: u should then be able to mount it in linux
[01:52] <mn> What is compiz?
[01:52] <mn> samson800: hello
[01:52] <stweston> bwald: I have; it is.
[01:52] <bwald> stweston: you might have had corruption when you downloaded it, and then it'll alway have corruption when burned
[01:52] <lolmac> hi, mn
[01:52] <HollywoodJumper> tripi ok i will have to try that
[01:52] <danbh_intrepid> !compiz > mn
[01:52] <tripi> mn a winndow manager
[01:52] <samson800> hi mn
[01:52] <mn> hello, lolmac
[01:52] <lolmac> hi, mn
[01:52] <danbh_intrepid> ubottu to the rescue!
[01:52] <sullyva86> I can't get any sound in miro any ideas?
[01:52] <eDRoaCH> er that open source FPS game called nexuz or something like that. its in ubu repos
[01:53] <stweston> bwald: well, the ISO and the CD don't match. that's the thing.
[01:53] <mn> lol
[01:53] <samson800> anyone know about wireless drivers not work
[01:53] <comicinker> I'm running Openbox from a ~/.xsession script, however there are no further actions executed than starting openbox. how can I execute more tasks? see my .xsession file here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49895/
[01:53] <samson800> ing
[01:53] <HollywoodJumper> tripi if the external wont mount in ubuntu then how do i safely remove in ubuntu?
[01:53] <javierg> Anyone know why when I uninstall a program in WINE it uninstalls but I can still see it in the menu? Is there another step that I have to do after I uninstall a program?
[01:53] <bwald> stweston: thats good, I dont' remember exactly how Disk Utility works (I'm in linux right now) but I think it should just be a check box.  I feel like its towards the bottom of the window, but I really dont' remember
[01:53] <mn> samson800:  I do.  What are you using
[01:53] <grim76> ben: http://poweriso.com/download.htm there is a linux version on that page.
[01:53] <mn> ?
[01:53] <coreyo> "Grub: read error" on boot.  Is there any way to get to the grub command prompt?  Is the grub command prompt not stage 1?
[01:53] <Schuenemann> eDRoaCH, can you run compiz? or blender?
[01:53] <samson800> compaq f500
[01:53] <bwald> does anyone know where the suspend/hibernate scripts live?  I've tried running some of the things in /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux but they don't seem to work, what does KDE use when you select "Suspend" with the GUI?
[01:53] <stweston> bwald: I'll have to look into that. thanks!
[01:53] <samson800> laptop
[01:53] <eDRoaCH> compiz is fine in 8.04, before that you ahve to disable the checking (read forums)
[01:54] <stweston> bwald: I'll be afk for a bit...
[01:54] <eDRoaCH> blender i dont use
[01:54] <bwald> stweston: yeah, good luck
[01:54] <garyc> anybody: Is Dlink DGE-530T pci gigabit lan card plug and play on 6.06 Dapper Drake
[01:54] <tripi> coreyo: type grub to get its pormpt
[01:54] <eDRoaCH> garyc: boot off the live cd and see?
[01:54] <coreyo> tripi, no not booting at all, this directly after the bios post
[01:54] <smacnay> Hi, I am trying to backup a dir from a Deb "testing" box to and Ubuntu 8.04 box using rdiff-backup.  seems that my Deb version of rdiff-backup is newer than that in Ubuntu and the backup will not work.  Where can I find a newer version for Ubuntu?
[01:54] <Schuenemann> eDRoaCH, how about the drivers? Does Intel provide them?
[01:54] <tripi> coreyo: ouch
[01:55] <javierg> Anyone know why when I uninstall a program in WINE it uninstalls but I can still see it in the menu? Is there another step that I have to do after I uninstall a program?
[01:55] <Elda> katie, Well Im not sure what to do them but I found two topics about it:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=650425&highlight=imVU  and http://www.imvu.com/catalog/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpbb2&file=viewtopic.php&t=160996 which may help?
[01:55] <samson800> i tryed the ndiswrapper driver but it not working out well ether
[01:55] <eDRoaCH> i didnt have to do anything with drivers, ubu handled it
[01:55] <danbh_intrepid> smacnay: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <smacnay> thanks
[01:55] <eDRoaCH> garyc: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[01:55] <Schuenemann> eDRoaCH, really? And glx is enabled?
[01:55] <eDRoaCH> glx?
[01:55] <Cheeky> hey iam trying to check if php is working with my mysql ; i was supposed to make this php...   http://paste.ubuntu.com/49896/     file and view it through firefox but i get an error of "
[01:55] <Cheeky> Parse error:  syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /var/www/mysql_up.php on line 10" ... i changed put in the mysql password and userame i use to log into mysql server .. but i still go this error could some one help me?
[01:55] <mn> samson800:  let's private chat.  it's easier
[01:55] <stweston> bwald: do CD-RW's work?
[01:56] <eDRoaCH> intel cards are incredibly common and not very fancy
[01:56] <samson800> ok
[01:56] <samson800> how
[01:56] <mn> I opened a windows
[01:56] <bwald> stweston: yeah, that shouldn't be any different from an R in terms of actually running
[01:56] <mn> windows*
[01:56] <mn> window**
[01:56] <garyc> eDRoaCH: why would I do that when 6.06 is running on my HD
[01:56] <HollywoodJumper> tripi how can i safely remove hardware if it is not mounted in ubuntu?
[01:56] <stweston> bwald: okay. thanks.
[01:56] <eDRoaCH> then check the list http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[01:56] <eDRoaCH> hmm maybe this isnt the official list
[01:57] <eDRoaCH> damn you google, first android and now this
[01:57] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: if it is not mounted, you can just pull it out.  The whole "safely remove" thing is just to unmount it, so if its already unmounted its safe
[01:57] <HollywoodJumper> bwald ok thanks
[01:57] <tripi> HollywoodJumper: u restarted with xp?
[01:57] <garyc> eDToaCH: it says the card runs on 7.04 - no word on 6.06
[01:57] <bartek> marcin: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4108ead .. Rightn ow I just put one DisplayMode in .. is that correct? I am going to reboot if you say so and hope my monitor doesn't turn off by itself :-)
[01:57] <HollywoodJumper> tripi no i do not have xp
[01:57] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, I see that my sources.list is all "hardy" - Can I change that to something else to keep the system more up to date?
[01:57] <smacnay> "hardy-updates"?
[01:58] <eDRoaCH> garyc: you could just go to the manufacturers site and see
[01:58] <ScreaminIke> howdo i force apache over ssh
[01:58] <tripi> HollywoodJumper: i misunderstoo sorry
[01:58] <garyc> eDToaCH: I want to go out and buy one, but thought I would make sure
[01:58] <FFEMTcJ> does anyone know what package to install on ubuntu server to take it back to its default state?
[01:58] <stweston> bwald: it's burning.
[01:58] <bwald> stweston: you're verifying the data?
[01:58] <stweston> bwald: it verifies at the end, I think.
[01:58] <eDRoaCH> then id def go to the manufacturers site and see
[01:58] <HollywoodJumper> i guess when i first installed ubuntu i was supposed keep part of my partition as windows
[01:58] <bwald> stweston: yeah, it should
[01:59] <eDRoaCH> doesnt look like ubu maintains an official HCL, which kinda sucks actually
[01:59] <stweston> bwald: I did verify it beforehand, too. with a button.
[01:59] <comicinker> !upgrade > smacnay:
[01:59] <garyc> eDRoaCH: I went there but the Linux support is generic or Redhat in nature
[01:59] <stweston> bwald: this time it's at 4x, I think.
[01:59] <HollywoodJumper> but my windows os was so messed i didnt even want to f*&k with it at all
[01:59] <eDRoaCH> generic is good
[01:59] <eDRoaCH> rpm only is bad
[01:59] <bwald> stweston: thats good.  and let me just say, on a personal note, I strongly approve of xfce, I'm a fluxbox user myself
[01:59] <coreyo> in grub, does the commandline interface reside at stage 1.5 or stage 2?
[01:59] <stweston> bwald: for some reason, it's changed...
[01:59] <smacnay> !upgrade
[01:59] <stweston> bwald: okay! thanks.
[01:59] <smacnay> comicinker, nothing happened
[01:59] <bwald> stweston: changed? did you set the burning speed to dynamic?
[02:00] <bwald> stweston: I think Disk Utility has that option
[02:00] <stweston> bwald: no. the speed didn't change. just the options.
[02:00] <danbh_intrepid> smacnay: erm, in what release is the version that you are looking for?
[02:00] <HollywoodJumper> i think i will just hook it up to my buddys pc that has windows and safely remove and try again
[02:00] <comicinker> hmm
[02:00] <garyc> eDRoaCH: just querying to see if anyone used the card on 6.06
[02:00] <bartek> marcin: the entire file i simply from running aticonfig minus the one display change i made
[02:00] <bwald> stweston: the options changed . . . while it was burning?
[02:00] <stweston> bwald: no.
[02:00] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, let me actually fins it and I will let you know - one sec
[02:00] <_gregorovius> Hi. I want to run pidgin as a user while I'm logged in as another user. I tried sudo and gksudo but I can't get it to work, since it can't find the display. Any hints?
[02:00] <missioncontrol> i configure squid's acl from <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS> but im still able to access from opther
[02:00] <stweston> bwald: before. apparrently with a restart.
[02:01] <missioncontrol> from other ips
[02:01] <HollywoodJumper> so... i am a total noob . should i get winedoors before i get wine?
[02:01] <stweston> bwald: but it's at 4x default, now.
[02:01] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: no, I'm not actually sure what winedoors is, all you probably need is wine
[02:01] <danbh_intrepid> _gregorovius: cant you do that internal to pidgin?  Just setup another account?
[02:01] <missioncontrol> no one available in the squid channel
[02:01] <bwald> stweston: thats good, highly unlikely to get a coaster that way
[02:01] <stweston> bwald: LOL
[02:01] <HollywoodJumper> bwald is wine hard to use at all?
[02:01] <missioncontrol> anyone here to help?
[02:02] <tripi> HollywoodJumper: no it is not :)
[02:02] <stweston> bwald: I'm also thinking of making this system a server in the future. got any tips?
[02:02] <_gregorovius> danbh_intrepid, trying to keep things separate, and besides I want to do that with some other programs
[02:02] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: nope, as long as you have some console skills, its dead easy
[02:02] <Elda> winedoors is a nifty program from what I remember
[02:02] <stweston> bwald: because I'd like a GUI, but not too much processes.
[02:02] <_gregorovius> I thought gksudo -u user should do it...
[02:02] <HollywoodJumper> so? sudo apt-get install wine?
[02:02] <Elda> It sort of acts like a package manager for various windows applets
[02:02] <danbh_intrepid> !squid > missioncontrol
[02:02] <stweston> bwald: erm... system resources needed.
[02:02] <Elda> !winedoors
[02:02] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: I recommend using aptitude, it makes it easier to remove stuff later
[02:02] <Geoffrey2> where would I find a symlink that points at the latest version of firefox?
[02:03] <ScreaminIke> ... how do i force apache to authenticate via ssh?
[02:03] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, seems that it is in "intrepid"
[02:03] <HollywoodJumper> bwald so apt and aptitude are not the same thing?
[02:03] <mn> What is the command to find the wireless card you have?
[02:03] <danbh_intrepid> smacnay: can you wait a month?  intrepid will be release then...
[02:03] <c0rrupt0r> hello Im getting the following error while running update manager E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:03] <c0rrupt0r> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[02:03] <lolmac> hi, c0rrupt0r
[02:04] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, sure - will it be hard to install intrepid over hardy?  Or just a matter of  changing the sources in the sources.list file?
[02:04] <jrib> c0rrupt0r: run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:04] <danbh_intrepid> smacnay: if not, and you want to be dangerous, you can try installing straight from the intrepid repos, or upgrade to intrepid
[02:04] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: both apt-get and aptitude are programs which use the APT package management system, aptitude is nice because when you install most things it takes into account which libraries they use, so if you want to delete them later it can delete the unused libraries too
[02:04] <eDRoaCH> btw- anyone ever sucessfully authenticate a mediawiki install on AD? its my current torture
[02:04] <bwald> stweston: if you want to reduce system resources, don't start processes you don't want
[02:04] <stweston> bwald: I've heard that before.
[02:05] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, what I get for installing two different linux distros... !
[02:05] <ScreaminIke> authenticate mediawiki on what?
[02:05] <stweston> bwald: but I need a GUI, I feel...
[02:05] <HollywoodJumper> bwald ok so? sudo aptitude install wine?
[02:05] <eDRoaCH> aka ubu server running mediawiki with the ldap extension verifying logins off a win2k3 domain
[02:05] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: yes
[02:05] <stweston> bwald: at least, until I learn the cmd line enough.
[02:05] <danbh_intrepid> smacnay: which do you want to do?  I can help with any...
[02:05] <c0rrupt0r> lolmac: ok thank you and surely will do that
[02:05] <bwald> stweston: yeah, having a GUI is nice for something things, although frankly if you want a good server install with GUI management, I'd recommend you use OpenSUSE
[02:05] <HollywoodJumper> cool this gets easier and easier with all the support resources!
[02:06] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, I can wait a month and upgrade to intrepid if that will be easier and more stable.
[02:06] <bwald> stweston: YaST beats the pants off any other server control system
[02:06] <stweston> bwald: okay... then I'll dump the server idea - for now.
[02:06] <onx> bwald, wouldn't that rather be SLES?
[02:06] <stweston> bwald: YaST?
[02:06] <bwald> onx: if you want to pay for stuff
[02:06] <danbh_intrepid> smacnay: yeah, thats the only stable solution of the three
[02:06] <onx> well it's suse's "LTS" option
[02:07] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, and when I do that, is it a matter of just changing my sources.list file to indicate "intrepid" instead of "hardy"?
[02:07] <stweston> onx: okay.
[02:07] <eDRoaCH> running suse11 @ school, i far prefer ubuntu. YaST is very nice, but the interface is nuts. only the vista-style-search-in-'start'-menu makes it useable
[02:07] <bwald> stweston: yast is suse's package management/configuation tool
[02:07] <danbh_intrepid> smacnay: no, just run update-manager -d
[02:07] <onx> speaking of which, someone in here suggested eBox as a replacement for webmin on ubuntu
[02:07] <jrib> danbh_intrepid: -d isn't necessary once it's released
[02:07] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, wow - that easy?  cool
[02:07] <stweston> bwald: but SUSE is paid, isn't it?
[02:07] <Geoffrey2> does Firefox create a symlink anywhere that always points to the folder where the current version is installed?
[02:07] <bwald> stweston: openSUSE is free, which is why I mentioned it
[02:07] <eDRoaCH> ebox rocks but its not what webmin does. i run ebox at my house
[02:07] <danbh_intrepid> jrib: ah, ok
[02:08] <jrib> smacnay: update-manager should automatically tell you about the new release
[02:08] <stweston> bwald: okay... but I think I'm sticking to Ubuntu.
[02:08] <bwald> eDRoaCH: YaST is not the menu, you're thinking of the new KDE4 menu system
[02:08] <onx> eDRoaCH, that's the impression i got from looking at the ebox website
[02:08] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, I am a long-time debian user and have started installing ubuntu for friends and my server.
[02:08] <eDRoaCH> no, i was meaning suse in general
[02:08] <bwald> eDRoaCH: which I agree, is pretty hard to use
[02:08] <eDRoaCH> gnome has been styled almost exactally the same
[02:08] <onx> eDRoaCH, do you know another alternative to webmin for ubuntu?
[02:08] <bwald> eDRoaCH: well, using YaST in ncurses from a remote server is pretty nice
[02:08] <HollywoodJumper> I got ubuntu a couple days ago and i think its pretty cool
[02:08] <eDRoaCH> well i dont really use webmin tbh
[02:09] <mn> What is the command to find the wireless card you have in *buntu?
[02:09] <eDRoaCH> tho cacti seems to rock, not sure if its what you need tho
[02:09] <onx> mn, try iwconfig
[02:09] <mn> no, that's not it
[02:09] <onx> or do you mean the actual device? then try lspci
[02:10] <BenjaminLinus> ...
[02:10] <mn> yes, well lspci is giving me the name of broadcom and i have an intel chip and I'm looking for the command that gives the intel name
[02:10] <bwald> does anyone know where the suspend/hibernate scripts live?  I've tried running some of the things in /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux but they don't seem to work, what does KDE use when you select "Suspend" with the GUI?
[02:10] <ryan> Is there a preferable "first key" to make a keyboard shortcut to.
[02:11] <bwald> ryan: thats all personal preference
[02:11] <tripi> ryan it depends an your taste and apps u use
[02:11] <onx> mn, the other option is that you just look at the hardware
[02:11] <ryan> bwald/tripi: Well let me rephrase that.  What keys are rarely used by Ubuntu?
[02:12] <tripi> ryan super (the win logo)
[02:12] <Elda> ryan the superkey
[02:12] <Gun_Smoke> mn, lspci | grep Network
[02:12] <Elda> ;)
[02:12] <ryan> tripi/Elda: thank you.
[02:12] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, neato - I ran update-manager -d and see that version 8.10 is a possible upgrade.  I won't do it now, though... unless it is working for most people.
[02:12] <tripi> btw I'd cover it with a TUX icon :P
[02:12] <onx> ryan, unless you use compiz
[02:13] <tripi> onx drop compiz in favour of xmonad :P
[02:13] <gmm46> i need help
[02:13] <danbh_intrepid> smacnay: yeah, I made a mistake in giving you that command.  That allows you to upgrade to the alpha of intrepid, which is still quite buggy
[02:13] <bwald> tripi: good call on the xmonad!
[02:13] <gmm46> my ubuntu pc is slow as hell
[02:13] <smacnay> danbh_intrepid, thanks - I will hold off.
[02:13] <tripi> bwald: the best WM i ever tried
[02:13] <onx> tripi, what's better about it?
[02:13] <gmm46> is there any commands that will make it speed up
[02:14] <darph> hi, i need to find a way to kill gdmgreeeter without having to restart or logoff.. all i hear is an infinite drum loop
[02:14] <stweston> bwald: it's almost done burning
[02:14] <funa2> anyone help me figure out how to make my net111v2 wireless dongle successfully connect me to the internet? i have already done all of the /etc/interface crap.... and i am at zero success
[02:14] <tripi> onx i save alot of time in window managing
[02:14] <darph> killed it several times.. but still keeps coming back
[02:14] <kylekruchok_> Hey!
[02:14] <tripi> onx and alot of resources too!
[02:14] <kylekruchok_> Can anyone help me get a DVD player workin'?
[02:14] <tripi> onx: and also not a single crash
[02:14] <danbh_intrepid> !medibuntu > kylekruchok_
[02:14] <stweston> bwald: it's done!
[02:15] <kylekruchok_> Thanks.
[02:15] <gmm46> hello? anyone want to help me
[02:15] <lolmac> hi, gmm46
[02:15] <Gun_Smoke> gmm46, You can try a different window manager, or buy some more ram
[02:15] <gmm46> my computer needs to speed up
[02:15] <bwald> tripi: what do you do about programs that use a systembar? that would the the only thing holding me back
[02:15] <stweston> bwald: wait - still verifying.
[02:15] <gmm46> any commands? to speed it up?
[02:15] <tripi> I took one whole night to put it on and integrate in gnome but now it's quite perfect!
[02:15] <bwald> stweston: great, thats what it should do
[02:15] <stweston> bwald; good.
[02:15] <HollywoodJumper> bwald so what kind of cool stuff can i do with wine?
[02:15] <kylekruchok_> danbh_intrepid: Can you?
[02:15] <onx> tripi, not having any crashes here. admittedly i don't use many of the graphical gimmicks other than the cube
[02:15] <tripi> bwald: u can integrate it in gnome!!
[02:15] <danbh_intrepid> kylekruchok_: what?
[02:15] <kylekruchok_> Help me with my DVD problem?
[02:16] <kylekruchok_> Or, did you just sick your bot on me?
[02:16] <kylekruchok_> ;)
[02:16] <bwald> HollywoodJumper, you can run a great number of windows programs natively
[02:16] <gmm46> forget it ill search online for help instead
[02:16] <tripi> onx: i've been a compiz fan for many time and a cube-slave too
[02:16] <danbh_intrepid> kylekruchok_: did you install the libdvdcss2 whatever from medibuntu?
[02:16] <bwald> tripi: doesn't that mean it has to use gnome processes and slow down a lot?
[02:16] <HollywoodJumper> bwald what do you mean natively?
[02:16] <Amperson> en la comunidad de "ubuntu- es " nadie me contesta así que no hay alguien que me pueda ayudar
[02:16] <tripi> onx: but i realized i need to work not to move iwndowes aroiund
[02:16] <kylekruchok_> danbh_intrepid: Sure did.
[02:17] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: wine stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator," because it doesn't emulate a new processor on top of your existing one, it just accepts windows API calls natively
[02:17] <kylekruchok_> All the media players want to read it, they open up the file, read it, and say... ehh... fuck you.
[02:17] <c0rrupt0r> lolmac: thank you that worked great
[02:17] <onx> tripi, i mostly use the desktop switching hotkeys or the overview thing (ctrl-alt-down)
[02:17] <cxmzlxb> 中文聊天室的网址是什么
[02:17] <tripi> bwald: gnome+xmonad much lighter than gnome+compiz
[02:17] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: the upshot of this is you can run windows programs without having to install windows in a Virtual Machine (with VMWare, Virtualbox, or something like that)
[02:17] <stweston> bwald: how do I connect to a wi-fi access on *buntu? does it just connect automatically to unprotected networks?
[02:17] <danbh_intrepid> kylekruchok_: then nope.  Thats all I got.  if you got the codec, you should be able to play dvds
[02:17] <bwald> stweston: I use the frontend knetworkmanager to set up wireless connections
[02:17] <Elda> bwald:  I never got that.... how exactly does it do so natively.  If linux is not written in any fashion like windows?  (to my *LIMITED* knowledge of it at least)
[02:18] <stweston> bwald: well, do you know the xubuntu equivalent?
[02:18] <kylekruchok_> VLC, MPlayer, DragonVideo, and a host of other media players give me the same issue.
[02:18] <Elda> I've always just considered it an emulator tbh :>
[02:18] <tripi> onx just a word: give it a try, u can get the 0.8 form debian etch backports
[02:18] <mn> anyone know where i can get the list that ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net used to have of wireless drivers for ndiswrapper?
[02:18] <Elda> kylekruchok_, Have you installed the codecs for it?
[02:18] <stweston> bwald: yay! it's done!
[02:18] <bwald> stweston: I'm not sure, I use knetworkmanager in fluxbox, and it works fine
[02:18] <HollywoodJumper> bwald so lets say i wanted to run diablo2 on wine would that be possible?
[02:18] <kylekruchok_> Elda: Yes, I have.
[02:19] <danbh_intrepid> Elda: its because the windows API is just function calls.  Wine implements those calls in linux.  It does not try to recreate windows
[02:19] <tripi> and with a 3 line config it integrate in gnome perfectly
[02:19] <onx> tripi, will do once i get the touchpad on this eee to do its multitouch thing :)
[02:19] <Elda> kylekruchok the restricted package ones?
[02:19] <kylekruchok_> Elda: LibDVDCSS2 is it, right?
[02:19] <Elda> Nope
[02:19] <bwald> Elda: linux isn't written like windows, but wine can interpret the API calls like windows, basically it accepts standard windows calls and runs them on the processor
[02:19] <tripi> onx :)
[02:19] <Elda> !codec
[02:19] <bwald> Elda: I'm not sure of the details, but the wine project webpage has more info
[02:19] <Elda> those :P
[02:19] <kylekruchok_> K
[02:19] <Elda> Ah
[02:19] <kylekruchok_> !codec
[02:20] <kylekruchok_> Hrm
[02:20] <kylekruchok_> ?
[02:20] <HollywoodJumper> what are api calls?
[02:20] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: probably, check the wine page's app list: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[02:20] <kylekruchok_> Says nothin's found...
[02:20] <Elda> I just installed the restricted codecs
[02:20] <Elda> Sec
[02:20] <Elda> !codecs kylekruchok_
[02:20] <kylekruchok_> "Event not found"
[02:20] <Elda> !kylekruchok_ codecs
[02:20] <Elda> hmmm
[02:20] <Elda> I dont know how others did that >.<
[02:20] <kylekruchok_> Growin'*
[02:20] <kylekruchok_> Haha
[02:20] <stweston> I don't understand when it says "disk boot: failure..." in BIOS
[02:20] <bwald> HollywoodJumper: APIs are just protocols that programs have to allow other programs to access them, Operating Systems use them to let programs do things
[02:21] <Elda> but just type !codec
[02:21] <kylekruchok_> I did.
[02:21] <Omlette> !codecs | kylekruchok
[02:21] <kylekruchok_> Event not found.
[02:21] <stweston> bwald: do you know what it means when the disk fails to boot?
[02:21] <Elda> There we go, Omlette did it
[02:21] <danbh_intrepid> !usage > Elda
[02:21] <Elda> Thank you danbh_intrepid  :)
[02:21] <danbh_intrepid> Elda: np
[02:21] <bwald> some good info on wine: http://www.winehq.org/site/myths
[02:22] <HollywoodJumper> bwald thank you that is helpful
[02:22] <bwald> stweston: um, the disk fails to boot, I'm not sure
[02:22] <kylekruchok_> Elda: Check your PM.
[02:22] <stweston> bwald: because, the disk always fails now, and only boots into win 98
[02:22] <danbh_intrepid> It used to be that you could type in messages on the same line when sending out ubottu factoids, like !factoid > user     hey, check out the link here, it will help.    But, not anymore
[02:22] <tripi> well nice pepole, it's 3.22 am here.. time to go to bed !  read u soon...
[02:23] <ryan> sudo apt-get install xbindkeys
[02:23] <ryan__> quit
[02:23] <ryan> oops
[02:23] <ryan> quit
[02:23] <ryan> exit
[02:23] <bwald> stweston: hrm, do you have any other bootable CDs you can test this computer on?
[02:24] <stweston> well, I have ubuntu server, I think...
[02:24] <stweston> bwald: does that make a difference?
[02:24] <stweston> bwald: if I have ubuntu server, I mean.
[02:24] <ryan__> #quit
[02:24] <Jephir> Hi, does anyone know how to get an Asus Xonar DX sound card working in Ubuntu (64-bit)?
[02:25] <bwald> stweston: well, you just said nothing is booting, so I wonder if its something to do with the computer hardware.  There is a difference between desktop and server, but in terms of booting, they should both start up at least
[02:25] <stweston> bwald: this is xubuntu.
[02:25] <bwald> stweston: also, how do you have Win 98 on a Macbook?
[02:25] <stweston> bwald: it's not on the mac. it's on an old desktop.
[02:25] <tummyacid> sup guys, i need to update avr-libc to the 1.6 version.  i downloaded the tar.bz and did all the config stuff but nothing uses the new lib... how do i update the library the 'ubuntu' way??
[02:26] <stweston> bwald: it's custom-built.
[02:26] <XiXaQ> I just deleted a couple of partitions, sda1 and sda2. My Ubuntu root partition is on sda3. When I reboot, will that be renamed to sda1 so I have to manipulate grub too?
[02:26] <Elda> Was about to say... why would you want a mac book, especially for win 98? Just get a laptop/pc :P
[02:26] <stweston> elda: LOL
[02:26] <bwald> stweston: xubuntu/ubuntu/kubuntu are all essentially the same, they just have a different window manager on top.  the programs underneath are all runnable on any platform (with proper dependencies) so its really more of an aesthetic/performance choice than one that limits your computer
[02:27] <stweston> bwald: it's saying invalid system disk. I've changed some CMOS settings.
[02:27] <k20a> what app can i use for editing flash content? .fla .swf ?
[02:27] <bwald> stweston: yeah, if its saying invalid system disk, then chances are its not looking for disks in the right place or the boot order is such that its trying the HD before a CD
[02:27] <Elda> xubunut is the small version of Ubuntu that uses XDE (I thinks?).  Ubuntu is Ubuntu, and Kubuntu is Ubuntu with gnome
[02:27] <Elda> *Xubuntu
[02:27] <bwald> Elda: xubuntu uses xfce
[02:28] <bwald> elda: and kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE
[02:28] <Elda> Eh there we go... xfce.  Of which I know nothing about xD
[02:28] <stweston> bwald: well, I changed it so that the disks are "normal" instead of "auto"
[02:28] <Elda> Errr yeah I meant that... got that bit messed up xD
[02:28] <lacy> so Gbuntu  hehe
[02:28] <danbh_intrepid> tummyacid: can you wait a month?  The next release will contain that
[02:28] <stweston> bwald: which makes it boot in unix-like systems.
[02:28] <bwald> Elda: there are a ton of different window managers, most distros don't make such a big deal out of different ones
[02:28]  * Elda uses Kubuntu and has KDE rather than gnome >.>
[02:28] <bwald> stweston: that sounds like a bios/motherboard specific thing
[02:29] <stweston> bwald: but I updated the BIOS just a couple days ago!
[02:29] <XiXaQ> bwald, window manager? You're not talking about window managers. You're talking about desktop environmens.
[02:29] <XiXaQ> bwald, the difference between kde and gnome is significant.
[02:29] <Elda> I know, lol my guy friend basically used one of those build your own distros and uses open box as his windows manager :>
[02:29] <stweston> bwald: pardon me if I seem angry. I'm not. just frustrated.
[02:29] <bwald> stweston: I'm not saying its corrupted, but possibly misconfigured
[02:29] <tummyacid> danbh_intrepid: eh, i really wanna make my amtel processor do its stuff now... its not that critical i guess but im willing to put in some work if only i knew where to start
[02:29] <Elda> well open box and has compiz as his desktop manager
[02:29] <stweston> bwald: okay.
[02:29] <bwald> XiXaQ: I know, I'm sorry I wasn't being very clear
[02:29] <k20a> is there a multimedia app something like dreamweaver so i could edit a .swf website template?
[02:30] <st3ph> !paste
[02:30] <Elda> He is one of those people who does all the little things to get it to load as fast as possible.  So on an older laptop it loads in 20 seconds xD
[02:30] <bwald> XiXaQ, there are major differences between window managers and desktop environments, but I didn't want to make it more confusing
[02:30] <bartek> Hey all .. so I'm making progress on fixing my video drivers. It seems now when I try to load up I get the error "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" and I can configure or continue.
[02:30] <danbh_intrepid> tummyacid: well, you can always test out the alpha of intrepid.  I suggest installing on a separate partition, because there are still lots of bugs
[02:30] <lacy> scared to ask  is it wise to update gnome ? to the lastest or stick with the old saying if it aint broke do fix it lol
[02:30] <Elda> well from power button to finishing loading up
[02:30] <Elda> well nm, he was bragging as he took two seconds off so that would be 18
[02:31] <bartek> What kind of BusTypes are available for video config?
[02:31] <Elda> Yeah... I'll never get that bit :>
[02:31] <danbh_intrepid> tummyacid: or, I suppose you can just compile it yourself, or use the intrepid package, neither of which I know much about.  If you compile it yourself, I suggest you use checkinstall
[02:31] <onx> Elda, i just use s2ram and never worry about boot time
[02:31] <Elda> I don't use any of that and I don't worry about my boot time either ;)
[02:31] <tummyacid> danbh_intrepid: ya i use this computer for school development id rather not have to reboot.  I have experiance compiling stuff myself, so i should use checkinstall?
[02:31] <bwald> onx: how does that work? I've been trying to get my suspend working from the command line
[02:32] <stweston> bwald: still an invalid system disk.
[02:32] <Elda> It boots, that's all I need haha
[02:32] <k20a> how could i edit a flash based website template in ubuntu? what app can open .swf for editing?
[02:32] <bwald> onx: it works from the GUIs of KDE and Gnome, but I can't find the path for suspend
[02:32] <bartek> If I am editing xorf.cong from command line and want to try out the new config, all I need to do is startx (or reboot x in another view) .. correct?
[02:32] <st3ph> i got again the problem i installed ubuntu new and my terminal tills and my synaptic manager dont works proper i cant install updates too
[02:32] <onx> bwald, it worked out of the box for me here - let me have a look at what the acpi script calls
[02:32] <st3ph> http://paste.ubuntu.com/49904/  << this is what it says
[02:32] <tummyacid> ive actually already compiled it but it seems the OS doenst notice cos it's still using the old lib
[02:33] <iFvwm> silent
[02:33] <danbh_intrepid> tummyacid: yeah, checkinstall will turn the standard install process (configure, make, make install) into a .deb that installs through the package manager.  That way, you can remove it/ upgrade it, through the standard mechanisms
[02:33] <danbh_intrepid> !checkinstall > tummyacid
[02:33] <bwald> stweston: hrm, try booting the ubuntu server CD, just to rule out the BIOS/hardware error
[02:33] <stweston> bwald: okay
[02:33] <bwald> stweston: possibility
[02:33] <bwald> stweston: (forgot that last word)
[02:33] <tummyacid> thanks a million bro
[02:33] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: run: dpkg --configure -a
[02:34] <stweston> bwald: the server install works..
[02:34] <bwald> onx: the weird thing for me is that s2disk works, but it can't find s2ram or s2both at all
[02:34] <st3ph> danbh_intrepid:  it let tilt my terminal
[02:34] <stweston> bwald: I'm'a try installing server.
[02:34] <neSSun0o> hi does anyone use kopete?
[02:35] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: ?
[02:35] <bwald> stweston: thats fine, you can always install xubuntu-desktop later and it'll act exactly the same as if you used the xubuntu disk
[02:35] <onx> bwald, there's some workarounds for s2ram, i faintly remember the long and winding path of trying them on other machines
[02:35] <stweston> bwald: okay
[02:35] <st3ph> danbh_intrepid:  says something missing i cant even copy and paste cuz its running always same msg
[02:35] <bwald> onx: I just dont' understand how I can have s2disk and not s2ram, it doesn't make sense
[02:35] <Elda> Wooh, I finally figured out/got around to setting my shared drive as an install media for wine.  That way I dont have to just install all my games in Vista
[02:36] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: is this a new install?  if so, I would just reinstall, and check to make sure the disk is good
[02:36] <onx> bwald, i'd have to google as well now for the suspend testing tools
[02:36] <neSSun0o> in kopete how do i send offline messages?
[02:36] <ezerasurfr> hello, I'm new to IRC and Ubuntu, having a problem, can someone help?
[02:36] <lolmac> hi, ezerasurfr
[02:36] <Elda> As the only game that I really play in Vista is Eve since the premium graphics poop out if Linux
[02:36] <Elda> !ask
[02:36] <st3ph> danbh_intrepid:  i did twice
[02:36] <stweston> bwald: I'm getting the same error as when I tried installing server before...
[02:36] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: did you check the cd?
[02:37] <lacy>  should i do this  to get the latest  gnome  ?sudo apt-get GNOME 2.22 ?
[02:37] <stweston> bwald: the CD-ROM drive failed to mount after it loaded the kernel.
[02:37] <Elda> !ask | ezerasurfr
[02:37] <st3ph> danbh_intrepid:  the cd worjked b4 when i was running ubuntu in dual boot
[02:37] <jeroen-> I have partioned and formated a new hard drive in Ubuntu (intrepid). I know want it to mount system wide (e.g. in /etc/fstab) - is this possible without touching the command line?
[02:37] <bwald> stweston: do you have some exotic CDRom drive or something?
[02:37] <k20a> what do i use to edit a .swf? something comparable to dreamweavor on wind0s
[02:37] <stweston> bwald: I think it's acorn, or CSA, whichever.
[02:38] <bwald> onx: yeah, I just can't find where KDE calls its suspend function, if I knew that it would solve my problem
[02:38] <stweston> bwald: but we don't have any other good ones.
[02:38] <stweston> bwald: I think.
[02:38] <dr_willis> jeroen-,  it pays to learn how to edit the fstab. Its not that hard to figure out.  and yes - there are some gui tools.. but no i dont use them.. i can normally edit the fstab in the time it takes me to find the gui tool in the menus. :)
[02:38] <Elda> ezerasurfr, So now what was your question?  There are many many errors that can occur :>
[02:38] <onx> bwald, the acpi script here does some other stuff as well, but try  echo 3 > /sys/power/state
[02:38] <ezerasurfr> ok, I have a drive from a nas. It's an IDE drive with Linux ext3 file system. I built a ubuntu desktop in order to view the drive. now it won't mount. gives "can't read superblock" error
[02:38] <k20a> you know i am guessing you still can't edit flash files in ubuntu, anyone think i am wrong
[02:38] <jose> Hola.. el canal de ubutu en español??
[02:38] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: well, without the error message, I don't think anyone can help.  I still suggest checking the cd.  There is an option at bootup
[02:38] <stweston> bwald: the exact phrasing is "no common CD-R drive was detected.
[02:39] <danbh_intrepid> !es > jose
[02:39] <jeroen-> dr_willis: I understand, but I want to know how to it with a gui
[02:39] <st3ph> danbh_intrepid:  what is if theres an error, i wont be able to boot anymore?
[02:39] <iFvwm> bwald: not use KDE. but perhaps you can look /etc/acpi/. some scripts here.
[02:39] <bwald> stweston: yeah, that sounds like its having trouble finding a driver for your drive
[02:39] <elvedin> Why is that when I add a user to /etc/shadow as user::14144:0:99999:7::: and /etc/passwd as user::0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash it still asks me for a password when I su user
[02:39] <stweston> bwald: okay
[02:39] <jeroen-> I though gparted would do the whole thing, but it doesn't
[02:39] <dr_willis> jeroen-,  check the !mount and other bot factoids i guess. I know theres a tool or 2 out to do it. but not sure of their nakmes.
[02:39] <sp0k34> !es > sp0k34
[02:39] <Elda> Wow ezerasurfr , that one is over my head by just a bit :>
[02:39] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: im sorry, Im not sure exactly whats happening
[02:39] <bwald> iFvwm: yeah, I've tried running those scripts, and the ones in /var/lib/hal/scripts/linux and nothing works
[02:40] <st3ph> i try bbbl
[02:40] <ezerasurfr> seriously?
[02:40] <bartek> I need some help .. I simply can't figure out what I'm doing with my video drivers. Trying to use fglrx with my ATI card and it won't boot up past a low-graphics mode which I don't want :/
[02:40] <lacy> hould i do this  to get the latest  gnome  ?sudo apt-get GNOME 2.22
[02:40] <bwald> iFvwm: suspend does work from either the gnome or KDE GUIs, but I cna't figure out what they are doing
[02:40] <dr_willis> jeroen-,  gparted dosent mess with system file configs liek that. its just a disk 'tool' mainly
[02:40] <ezerasurfr> seems like it should be something simply
[02:40] <Elda> ezerasurfr, my only guess is that you did not give yourself access to view your other partitions?
[02:40] <ezerasurfr> how can I do that?
[02:40] <Elda> But I don't use gnome so Im not quite sure how to do that
[02:41] <ezerasurfr> remember, i am completely new to linux, I just installed my first view of it today
[02:41] <stweston> bwald: where can I find a driver for this drive?
[02:41] <iFvwm> bwald: those scripts just lauched by system with certain conditions. not lauched manually.
[02:41] <samy> hi
[02:41] <lolmac> hi, samy
[02:41] <edz> how can i set up where i can see a user that logs into my system and i can see what hes typing like the old school ttysnoop that there use to be?
[02:41] <edz> on ubuntu
[02:41] <dr_willis> bwald,  ive noticed that if  You use GDM and login to gnome, you have more 'options' then if you login into KDE.. also if you KDM - gnome logout options are fewer then the KDE logout options.
[02:41] <bwald> stweston: I'm really not sure
[02:42] <edz> or screen settings
[02:42] <Elda> Anyone know how to give yourself reading/writing rights to a another partition? :>
[02:42] <danbh_intrepid> hello botcheckers
[02:42] <lolmac> hi, danbh_intrepid
[02:42] <danbh_intrepid> hi botcheckers
[02:42] <stweston> bwald: it's an acorn CDR-1300A
[02:42] <neSSun0o> im trying to send offline messages with kopete and it doesnt let me
[02:42] <neSSun0o> anyone can help?
[02:42] <dr_willis> Elda,  depemnds on the filesystem. Ive heard for ext2/3 you can just chmod/chown the mountpoint after its mounted.
[02:42] <stweston> bwald: does that help?
[02:42] <danbh_intrepid> lolmac: is that a bot?
[02:42] <bartek> does ubuntu come with any text browsers i can launch from shell?
[02:42] <bwald> dr_willis: that depends on if you use KDM or GDM, when I've used KDM, KDE had more options, and when I used GDM, Gnome had more options, in any event suspend works, I just want to know the command line for it
[02:42] <Elda> ezerasurfr there you go?
[02:42] <dr_willis> Elda,  for ext3/2 i tend to make a directory ON the filesystem. and chown that to be owned by the user.
[02:42] <lolmac> danbh_intrepid: no
[02:42] <lolmac> xD
[02:43] <Elda> dr_willis, ezerasurfr might need help with that :>
[02:43] <danbh_intrepid> lolmac: :) ok
[02:43] <ezerasurfr> i wouldn't know how to do that, especially if I cannot mount the drive
[02:43] <declan> Hello everyone
[02:43] <ezerasurfr> :o)
[02:43] <lolmac> hi, declan
[02:43] <dr_willis> bwald,  not noticed any command lines for that sorry.
[02:43] <fbc> Putting auto eth1:1 in my /etc/network/interfaces does not automatically bring up m interface when I reboot. I have to manually do "ifup eth1:1" all the time. Anyone know a way of fixing this problem?
[02:43] <onx> bartek, apt-get install lynx
[02:43] <bartek> thanks
[02:43] <tummyacid> damn, got this error: "avr-ranlib: could not create temporary file whilst writing archive: No more archived files"  with checkinstall i guess ill have to build a seperate dev box for my nerdkit
[02:43] <dr_willis> Elda,  its bed time for me. :)  so my time is short.
[02:43] <airdog> trying to do internet connection sharing somone who is familiar with iptables and routing please help - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=906126&page=7&highlight=p1ruj3
[02:44] <Elda> dr_willis, ah well... meh I couldnt do much more than you mentioned as I am fairly new to linux
[02:44] <tummyacid> airdog: you just need to enable NAT?
[02:44] <iFvwm> suspend? bwald
[02:44] <Elda> All I can do is mount my ntfs shared space I made for Vista/Kubuntu xD
[02:44] <stweston> bwald: is there even the possibility of a driver for this drive?
[02:44] <ezerasurfr> thanks for the advice...  I don't know if thats even the problem for sure, if you are willing to sacrifice another CD, I'd recommend trying to burn Knoppix, or something else and seeing if any modern linux distro boots
[02:45] <WDC> Hello
[02:45] <lolmac> hi, WDC
[02:45] <stweston> bwald: well, I don't know...
[02:46] <bwald> iFvwm: yeah, I don't know the command for suspend
[02:46] <stweston> bwald: I'd rather try Ubuntu-based stuff, so...
[02:46] <Elda> ezerasurfr,  what dr_willis  said xD
[02:46] <WDC> I am trying to connect to a Ubuntu box from Ubuntu through VNC and I get connected, but right after that it says "COnnection reset by peer" How can I fix it?
[02:46] <iFvwm> bwald: just try sudo suspend?
[02:46] <iFvwm> -f
[02:46] <midnightRmbler> ubunto rocks. anyone here from north carolina?
[02:46] <allan> hello
[02:46] <lolmac> hi, allan
[02:46] <bwald> stweston: I wish I could help you more, but I don't know much about this, you could try posting on the forums
[02:46] <stweston> bwald: okay.
[02:46] <st3ph> danbh_intrepid:  are u here?
[02:46] <ezerasurfr> in terminal, konsole?
[02:46] <bwald> iFvwm: "suspend" isn't a command
[02:46] <stweston> bwald: thanks for all the help!
[02:46] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: yep
[02:47] <iFvwm> ??
[02:47] <shubbar> how can i make gedit show line numbers?
[02:47] <bwald> stweston: you're welcome!
[02:47] <WDC> shubbar: Preferences
[02:47] <midnightRmbler> my grandmother is now using ubuntu and is enjoying it.  she is a windows/aol convert, age 82.  if that isn't proof that ubuntu is ready to take the desktop market, i don't knwo what is
[02:47] <WDC> ANYWAY help me with a connection reset by peer error in VNC?
[02:47] <WDC> midnightRmbler: Awesome
[02:47] <da_smell> i have a quick question. just installed hardy and im in gnome. I downloaded a gtk2 theme and installed. I selected it, and everything looks like it should except for whatever program window you have selected. It still has that orange color at the top where it says the name of the app thats open
[02:47] <iFvwm> bwald: i had this command. :D
[02:47] <st3ph> danbh_intrepid:  where would the report come if there was an error?
[02:47] <fbc> Can someone help? Putting auto eth1:1 in my /etc/network/interfaces does not automatically bring up m interface when I reboot. I have to manually do "ifup eth1:1" all the time.
[02:47] <declan> Can someone help me find and install the drivers for a webcam?
[02:47]  * Elda hides at all the large words :>
[02:47] <iFvwm> suspend: usage: suspend [-f]
[02:47] <bwald> iFvwm: haha, I wish I did, do you know if yours is just a bash script or something?
[02:47] <shubbar> WDC, thanks
[02:48] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: is there an error when you run dpkg --configure -a ?
[02:48] <Guest3615> mn
[02:48] <sp0k34> What is the SSH Tunnel pack used in Gnome?
[02:48] <nn64> Hi can some one look threw my sight http://linuxmain.net/ and tell me if there is anything else I can add or needs to be added to the sight ?
[02:48] <Guest3615> hello
[02:48] <lolmac> hi, Guest3615
[02:48] <WDC> ANYONE help me with a Cnnection Reset by peer error in VNC?
[02:48] <mn> yes?
[02:48] <Guest3615> is mn here
[02:48] <jeroen-> dr_willis: pyGDM
[02:48] <Attaboy81> I am trying to repair Grub in Hardy after installing XP. Can anyone help?
[02:48] <iFvwm> bwald: is a intern shell command
[02:48] <mn> guest3615: yes?
[02:48] <bwald> WDC: Connection Reset by Peer generally means the other person disconnected
[02:48] <Guest3615> samson800 here
[02:48] <sp0k34> !ssh
[02:48] <WDC_> Hey
[02:48] <st3ph> danbh_intrepid: seems so cuz the cd didnt say any errors, but if i run it if let my terminal goes crazy
[02:49] <danbh_intrepid> !fixgrub > Attaboy81
[02:49] <gaintsura> could anyone recommend a good, easy to configure vnc that would be accessible from a windows box?
[02:49] <iFvwm> bwald: this command perhaps is only for bash
[02:49] <mn> Attaboy81:  Ill paste you the code.  Open a private chat with me
[02:49] <iFvwm> ~
[02:49] <da_smell> i have a quick question. just installed hardy and im in gnome. I downloaded a gtk2 theme and installed. I selected it, and everything looks like it should except for whatever program window you have selected. It still has that orange color at the top where it says the name of the app thats open
[02:49] <dr_willis> gaintsura,  most of them can be. I tend to use vnc4server, or tightvnc
[02:49] <bwald> iFvwm: can you tell me the contents of your script? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[02:49] <WDC> Hello? Connection Reset by peer in VNC. What's wrong?
[02:49] <lolmac> hi, WDC
[02:49] <Schuenemann> Anyone here has a notebook with integrated graphics card ? Can you tell me if it runs well?
[02:49] <dr_willis> gaintsura,  those 2 do NOT share the 'current desktop' htye spawn their own hidden desktop you connect to.
[02:49] <gaintsura> dr_willis: cool, thanks
[02:49] <bwald> iFvwm: I usually use fish, but I can run bash scripts
[02:49] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: try switching to one of the ttys, using ctrl+alt+f1.     and use ctrl+alt+f7 to switch back.   Run the dpkg --configure -a there
[02:49] <gaintsura> dr_willis: I'm looking for one that will open to an existing desktop
[02:50] <dr_willis> gaintsura,  i use vnc4server, edit the users .vnc/xstartup to run what you want.. ssh in, run vnc4server, connect..
[02:50] <st3ph> danbh_intrepid:  what u mean?
[02:50] <dr_willis> gaintsura,  you have just limited your  options a great deal then.
[02:50] <gaintsura> I know
[02:50] <declan> Can anyone help me with a logitech quickcam?
[02:50] <iFvwm> bwald: i am not sure about this command. you can just man bash. and find "suspend"
[02:50] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: just what I said?
[02:50] <gaintsura> I need it for help with troubleshooting a webapp issue
[02:50] <dr_willis> gaintsura,  kde has one, gnome has one.. and i think theres 1 other.. I never use those.
[02:50] <gaintsura> declan: what camera?
[02:50] <_Zeus_> !ask | gaintsura
[02:50] <WDC> ANYONE HELP OMG
[02:50] <st3ph> danbh_intrepid:  i dunno what ttys are
[02:50] <declan> Logitech quickcam express
[02:50] <_Zeus_> !caps | WDC
[02:50] <declan> , gaintsura
[02:50] <gaintsura> _Zeus_: ??
[02:51] <bartek> Despite removing the mesa drivers using apt-get .. I still do not see my fglrx drivers when I do fglrxinfo .. what am I missing?
[02:51] <_Zeus_> (09:50:26 PM) gaintsura: I need it for help with troubleshooting a webapp issue
[02:51] <dr_willis> gaintsura,  you could have who you are helping  install the vncserver, and make a minimal desktop running in it. that you both can see/connect to in a window.
[02:51] <bwald> iFvwm: er, bash doesn't have any acpi power management functions, its just a shell that has scripting abilities
[02:51] <WDC> Sorry. "Connection reset by peer" in VNC
[02:51] <danbh_intrepid> st3ph: well, why dont you try the key combos I suggested, and find out?
[02:51] <_Zeus_> ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily)
[02:51] <st3ph> ok
[02:51] <iFvwm> bwald: right
[02:51] <_Zeus_> WDC: hmm... can you reconnect after that?
[02:51] <_Zeus_> can you connect at all?
[02:51] <AaronMT> Hi, how do I install Firefox 3.0.2?
[02:51] <WDC> _Zeus_: Through SSH i can
[02:51] <dr_willis> gaintsura,  vnc over the internet is not considered secure  -  Not sure how well the gnome remote desktop security rates.
[02:51] <gaintsura> _Zeus_: I wasn't asking a question for it, it's the reason I need a vnc
[02:51] <bwald> iFvwm: so that means the "suspend" script you have is human readable, so you can post whats in it on http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ and I can take a look
[02:51] <danbh_intrepid> AaronMT: are you running hardy?
[02:52] <AaronMT> Yes
[02:52] <WDC> _Zeus_: port 5901 will connect but RIGHT after it "connection reset by peer"
[02:52] <gaintsura> dr_willis: I know its not secure, but its about the only easy way for my team member and I to collaborate
[02:52] <iFvwm> bwald: /etc/acpi/suspend.d
[02:52] <onx> bwald, btw it's: echo -n mem > /sys/power/state
[02:52] <danbh_intrepid> AaronMT: just update
[02:52] <dr_willis> !vnc
[02:52] <_Zeus_> WDC: huh
[02:52] <_Zeus_> firewall?
[02:52] <iFvwm> a serial scripts here
[02:52] <WDC> _Zeus_: Don't think so!
[02:52] <bwald> onx/iFvwm: okay, I'll try that, thanks
[02:52] <WDC> I can nmap
[02:52] <AaronMT> You cant update. It's greyed out.
[02:52] <_Zeus_> WDC: i see.  has it ever worked?
[02:52] <onx> bwald, without the other stuff my acpi script does it wouldn't let my eee wake up again though ;o
[02:53] <danbh_intrepid> AaronMT: what program are you using?
[02:53] <WDC> _Zeus_: Yes about a month ago and nothing has changed
[02:53] <WDC> _Zeus_:
[02:53] <WDC> 5901/tcp open  vnc-1
[02:53] <WDC> 5902/tcp open  vnc-2
[02:53] <WDC> 6002/tcp open  X11:2
[02:53] <FloodBot1> WDC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <AaronMT> Firefox->Help->Check for Updates
[02:53] <bwald> onx: oh, hrm, thats not very useful then
[02:53] <_Zeus_> WDC: i see...
[02:53] <AaronMT> && sudo apt-get update, do not resolve in an update
[02:53] <danbh_intrepid> AaronMT: no, just update ubuntu
[02:53] <bwald> onx: what does your acpi script do then?
[02:53] <AaronMT> no updates found
[02:53] <_Zeus_> WDC: that's odd
[02:53] <NemesisD> anyone in here program for GTK2?
[02:54] <dr_willis> WDC,   if you are not carefull with some vncservers, you can spawn severl and not notice it. :)
[02:54] <WDC> dr_willis: How do I kill the spawns? :)
[02:54] <_Zeus_> WDC: check what's running?
[02:54] <declan> Can someone help me locate and install the drivers for a logitech quickcam express webcam?
[02:54] <WDC> _Zeus_: Well see
[02:54] <_Zeus_> is this a linux box connecting from, WDC?
[02:54] <WDC> WE'll
[02:54] <iFvwm> bwald: you can also read /etc/init.d/acpid , some parameter can excute with it.
[02:54] <dr_willis> WDC,  how did you start them.. if using vncserver,, its 'vncserver --kill :#'
[02:54] <WDC> _Zeus_: Ubuntu to Ubuntu
[02:54] <danbh_intrepid> AaronMT: can you give me the url that this command will give you?  sudo apt-get install pastebinit && apt-cache policy firefox | pastebinit
[02:54] <iFvwm> bwald: like sudo /etc/init.d/acpid suspend?
[02:55] <_Zeus_> WDC: great.  try running ps -ef | grep vnc
[02:55] <danbh_intrepid> !webcam > declan
[02:55] <WDC> Still resets
[02:55] <dr_willis> declan,  you may want to check to see if that cam even has any support at all..  with my webcams it seems they wither work out of the box.. or are totally unsupported.
[02:55] <_Zeus_> WDC: i mean, see what that output
[02:55] <WDC> _Zeus_: dlemcoe   5978  5761  0 21:55 pts/4    00:00:00 grep vnc
[02:55] <iFvwm> bwald: not any more idea
[02:55] <_Zeus_> WDC: that's what i thougth
[02:55] <dr_willis> declan,  and one of the one i had with no support was a Logitech QUickcam. but theres dozen variants of that thing
[02:55] <_Zeus_> WDC: so it used to work, nothing changed, and now it doesn't?
[02:56] <WDC> _Zeus_: Yah
[02:56] <AaronMT> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/541786
[02:56] <WDC> It says it connects!
[02:56] <bwald> iFvwm: my /etc/init.d/acpid only has the usual options, start/stop/reload/etc.
[02:56] <digitalfiz> i added all the fonts from the windows Fonts directory to the base font directory for x11 i guess it is and this is what happens in firefox now: http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t238/digitalfiz/wtf/?action=view&current=Screenshot-2.png
[02:56] <WDC> It just immediatly resets by peer
[02:56] <_Zeus_> WDC: hmm... can you run vnc from the command line?  or are you alreadty
[02:56] <iFvwm> bwald: yes. hehe. i make mistaken
[02:56] <WDC> _Zeus_: I have ONLY SSH access to this box
[02:56] <WDC> vnc4server makes me set a password, and works