[03:19] <hoodie-1> hello?
[03:19] <hoodie-1> i'm trying to install lubuntu on an 8gb SSD drive, but it's saying i need at least 10.7gb to install
[03:20] <KM0201> 10.7?
[03:20] <hoodie-1> this is weird, i installed this exact OS in the past, worked fine. yes, 10.7
[03:20] <hoodie-1> and ubuntu WAS saying the same thing, but i did something and then it was ok with 4.4
[03:21] <hoodie-1> not sure what i did..
[03:21] <KM0201> i don't think you did anything
[03:22] <hoodie-1> well why in the world is lubuntu requiring 10.7 GB to install?
[03:22] <KM0201> i dunno, that makes no sense
[03:23] <KM0201> i have an enormous amount of crap on my 25gig Lubuntu partition, and still have almost 15gigs free
[03:23] <hoodie-1> i think when i installed from my sandisk usb it worked, but when i try from my microSD card it's giving me this 10.7 business
[09:39] <me2> New to this... anyone up to answering a question about a Lubuntu install fail?
[09:40] <me2> as grub2 does not see the kernel when I turn my netbook on
[09:41] <me2> with ubuntu 10.10 already on the same machine
[09:41] <me2> anyone?
[14:13] <zen_> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMXULDocument.loadOverlay]"  nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://global/content/bindings/preferences.xml :: showPane :: line 711"  data: no]
[14:14] <zen_> help
[14:14] <zen_> java fail
[14:14] <zen_> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMXULDocument.loadOverlay]"  nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://global/content/bindings/preferences.xml :: showPane :: line 711"  data: no]
[14:20] <bioterror> opensource or propietary?
[14:22] <zen_> open
[14:27] <bioterror> try sun-java?
[14:32] <zen_> how?
[14:32] <zen_> what u mean?
[18:23] <zoe> hi
[18:23] <zoe> I have just installed lubuntu and everything is running well except sound
[18:24] <zoe> is anybody available to help me step by step?
[18:24] <bioterror> open terminal
[18:24] <bioterror> run alsamiser
[18:24] <zoe> running fine alsamixer
[18:24] <bioterror> and check that you dont pcm and master muted
[18:24] <bioterror> have
[18:24] <zoe> all are at max volume
[18:25] <bioterror> and they have OO?
[18:25] <zoe> no
[18:25] <zoe> level is 84 or 80
[18:25] <zoe> almost full volume
[18:25] <zoe> i tried to play a sound with aplay
[18:25] <bioterror> but do you have any of them muted
[18:25] <zoe> it says it played but not sound
[18:25] <bioterror> MM = muted
[18:25] <bioterror> OO = not muted
[18:25] <zoe> hmmm
[18:25] <zoe> all muted in fact
[18:25] <zoe> how do you change mm to oo?
[18:26] <bioterror> with m
[18:26] <zoe> amazing
[18:26] <bioterror> if only I could code, I would make lxmixer :D
[18:26] <zoe> you save my poor life of father of a little girl 3 year old :)
[18:26] <bioterror> :)
[18:26] <bioterror> remember to sudo alsactl store
[18:26] <zoe> she will be able to hear poissonrouge.com
[18:27] <bioterror> oh well, from father to another
[18:27] <bioterror> I feel you!
[18:27] <zoe> lol
[18:27] <zoe> what is that commande for?
[18:27] <zoe> saving parameters?
[18:27] <bioterror> yes
[18:27] <zoe> not so trivial to remember? :)
[18:28] <zoe> strange that after fresh installation all of that is muted...
[18:28] <bioterror> that happens
[18:28] <zoe> murphy's law :)
[18:28] <zoe> have to personnalize lxde to remove all except some soft
[18:29] <bioterror> what you want to personalize?
[18:29] <zoe> remove menus etc to avoid mistakes :)
[18:30] <bioterror> you want more like Kiosk-mode
[18:30] <bioterror> ?
[18:30] <zoe> hmmm
[18:30] <zoe> i want to let hear
[18:30] <zoe> go on poissonrouge.com
[18:30] <zoe> launch gcompris
[18:30] <zoe> and some other soft as DVD player
[18:31] <bioterror> nice site, my 4 years old daughter might like that
[18:31] <zoe> of sure
[18:31] <zoe> plenty of different language
[18:32] <bioterror> she usually plays Dora's magical garden or something and prints lots of papers
[18:32] <zoe> mainly french (native language for me)
[18:32] <zoe> hmmm, i will perhaps install the printer over ethernet
[18:33] <zoe> but not a good idea to let my daughter printing everything she wants
[18:33] <zoe> could be catastrophic for the forest :)
[18:36] <zoe> is there any  app for that "kiosk-mode"?
[18:41] <zoe> is it possible to remove the virtual desktop?
[18:49] <zoe> ok, found in the openbox config :)
[19:02] <zoe> I try to use the command line chromium-browser --kiosk http://www.google.com, the browser is openin but not in fullscreen mode...
[19:02] <zoe> arf, working now
[19:03] <zoe> add to close all tabs first...
[19:03] <bioterror> :)
[19:03] <bioterror> add that to startup
[19:03] <bioterror> could do the trick ;)
[19:04] <zoe> in fact, but i would prefer to keep my taskbar
[19:04] <zoe> to let her launch some other soft
[19:05] <zoe> openbox is really easy to customize
[19:05] <zoe> amazing
[19:07] <zoe> is it possible to add that command line in thequick launch taskbar?
[19:07] <edwardthefma> hello all
[19:08] <zoe> hi
[19:08] <edwardthefma> can some 1 help me find the download for  lubuntu ver 9.10
[19:08] <bioterror> edwardthefma, why?
[19:09] <zoe> http://download.lxde.org/lubuntu-9.10/
[19:09] <edwardthefma> i wanting to install it on this pos pc
[19:09] <zoe> google is my friend :)
[19:09] <zoe> why to install old version?
[19:09] <edwardthefma> old pc
[19:10] <zoe> how many MB or RAM?
[19:10] <edwardthefma> it dosentt like 10 or 11
[19:10] <edwardthefma> i think its like 256mb
[19:11] <edwardthefma> not alot
[19:11] <bioterror> !mini | edwardthefma
[19:11] <zoe> i am running with 196Mo, work fine
[19:11] <bioterror> and use apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ;)
[19:11] <elros> for an old PC use 10.04
[19:11] <zoe> it is what i have done, really simple
[19:12] <edwardthefma> i tryed ten
[19:12] <zoe> did you try slitaz?
[19:12] <edwardthefma> dosent work but i know 9.10 ubuntu works
[19:12] <elros> of course you can try with debian too, just install lxde + xorg + gdm
[19:12] <zoe> http://download.lxde.org/lubuntu-9.10/
[19:12] <edwardthefma> and lubuntu is just a lighter varation of ubuntu
[19:13] <zoe> http://www.slitaz.org
[19:13] <edwardthefma> ok thx
[19:14] <edwardthefma> zoe my last plan was puppy linux
[19:14] <edwardthefma> it this didint work :)
[19:14] <zoe> you can try doudoulinux too if you want :)
[19:14] <zoe> try slitaz, seriously it is really small but effective
[19:15] <zoe> I tried SALIX too
[19:15] <zoe> finally i am running lubuntu last version, working really fine for me, stable and easy
[19:15] <elros> oneiric?
[19:16] <zoe> elros?
[19:16] <edwardthefma> well this pc used to run windows me
[19:16] <elros> yes?
[19:16] <elros> so it's from '99-'00
[19:16] <edwardthefma> yes
[19:18] <edwardthefma> compac presaro 5000
[19:19] <zoe> what kind of proc?
[19:22] <edwardthefma> 750mzh athlon
[19:22] <edwardthefma> 64 mb ram
[19:26]  * edwardthefma downloaded lubuntu-9.10_lynxis_b23.iso
[19:26] <edwardthefma> i hope this is the corect 1
[19:43] <edwardthefma> well it seems to work
[19:43] <edwardthefma> but ween i click the install icon it dosent load the installer
[19:44] <edwardthefma> is thare a way i can install it via the termnal
[19:45] <bioterror> !mini | edwardthefma
[19:45] <bioterror> and then just sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[19:45] <bioterror> but you cant run anything on 64MB:D
[19:45] <edwardthefma> dammed
[19:45] <edwardthefma> but the live cd works
[19:45] <edwardthefma> XD
[19:45] <bioterror> dunno how well
[19:46] <bioterror> but if you think that you drop openbox and lxde off and you use fluxbox, you still have 54-56MB of RAM in use after boot on desktop
[19:46] <bioterror> not that much left for anything
[19:46] <edwardthefma> i just looked in side the box
[19:46] <edwardthefma> le me double check the ram
[19:49] <edwardthefma> its got  2 256 ram cards and 1 64
[19:49] <edwardthefma> apparently i for got i upgraded it
 i just double checked the ram
[19:59] <edwardthefma> 512
[20:00] <bioterror> run 11.04 then ;)
[20:00] <edwardthefma> i did
[20:00] <edwardthefma> XD i got a error
[20:01] <bioterror> did you explain that error somewhere today+
[20:01] <edwardthefma> i serch the forms and found out the modle pc is having issues with 10
[20:01] <edwardthefma> so i just down grade to a version that is known to work
[20:01] <bioterror> what's the error?
[20:02] <edwardthefma> ill have too look it up 1 sec
[20:12] <edwardthefma> grrrr
[20:12] <edwardthefma> i cant find the error in my history
[20:13] <elros> edwardthefma: use 10.04, it has better support for older hardware
[20:14] <edwardthefma> ok well i have 9.10 allredy on a disc
[20:14] <edwardthefma> i might as well use it
[20:14] <edwardthefma> i can upgrade it later
[20:16] <elros> use the alternate installer (or the minimal CD), 10.04.3 was just relesed
[20:16] <edwardthefma> ok i probbly wil
[20:17] <elros> with 576 ram you can have gnome / xfce / lxde / fluxbox / whatnot
[20:18] <edwardthefma> i know it used to have ubuntu 9.10
[20:18] <edwardthefma> but i wanted somthing lighter
[20:18] <elros> during boot you can choose to install command-line only, after that you must install xorg, gdm and desktop environment manually
[20:18] <edwardthefma> since it was slow
[20:19] <elros> xfce and lxde are solid desktops, if you have too much free time then you can even try fluxbox
[20:19] <edwardthefma> wen i turn on the pc with the disc it says press enter or type live to open live cd
[20:19] <bioterror> or just drop lxde and use openbox ;)
[20:20] <edwardthefma> well this is for my grand mother
[20:20] <edwardthefma> and her anteque of a pc
[20:21] <elros> ok, then put xfce/lxde if she's not (against conventional wisdom) a command-line hacker
[20:21] <phillw> edwardthefma: I do not think you can upgrade from 9.10 - I could be wrong, but I think the team pretty much started again with 10.04. A lot of basic structure was altered. 10.04 will be supported, 9.10 will not.
[20:22] <KM0201> edwardthefma: you should be able to upgrade karmic
[20:22] <KM0201> !eol
[20:22] <KM0201> !karmic
[20:23] <edwardthefma> well if she can play her farmville and do her email he wil be happy
[20:23] <elros> lucid has a decent lxde desktop, and xfce has been mature for even longer
[20:23] <KM0201> elros: onlyt hing is, xfce is almost as bloated as gnome.
[20:24] <bioterror> that's what people says
[20:24] <bioterror> but I never see any facts
[20:24] <elros> on my kick butt 2GHz athlon xp they are almost the same :)
[20:25] <elros> with greater performance comes greater responsibility
[20:27] <edwardthefma> i need to buy more cds
[20:28] <KM0201> bioterror: i can't realy give yo u"facts"... all i'll tell you is, the reason I stopped using Gnome, is because it was bloated, so I went to Xfce (which I also have a lot of experience with)... I used XFCE for about a month, and had more or less the same issues as I had on Gnome 3/Unity, and thats how I ended up on LXDE
[20:30] <bioterror> wish I had another laptop, I would like to make some testings
[20:32] <KM0201> bioterror: one off the bigger issues i had w/ XFCE 4, was the compositing, so i disabled it...
[20:32] <KM0201> but it still seemed extremely sluggish
[20:34] <elros> bioterror: if you have enough ram you can try virtualbox
[20:35] <bioterror> elros, not a huge fan of those ;)
[20:35] <elros> it's surprisingly easy to use
[20:37] <Trusardi> hey by mistake i have set up a default action for clicking a folder to open it with music player
[20:37] <Trusardi> by "open with"
[20:38] <Trusardi> normally when i click a folder it opens fine, but when i open a folder via application it runs music player -
[20:38] <Trusardi> does anyone know how to reverse it?
[20:41] <bioterror> who has hands on pcmanfm? ;)
[20:43] <KM0201> i had that happen w/ Gnome once, but never w/ PCMan.. have no idea how to fix it there
[20:43] <Trusardi> irritating ;]
[20:43] <Trusardi> just to think that i switched to lxde to avoid unity :P
[20:43] <Trusardi> file types allow me to change it in properties but not folders.....
[20:44] <bioterror> I'll grab my wife's laptop
[20:51] <Trusardi> sorry got dc-ed
[20:51] <Trusardi> did perhaps anyone come up with an idea how to solve this silly pcmanfm/folder association prob?
[20:52] <bioterror> hmmm
[20:52] <bioterror> where does pcmanfm puke those configs
[20:53] <Trusardi> .config/pcmanfm
[20:53] <bioterror> nope
[20:53] <Trusardi> has to be local somewhere
[20:54] <bioterror> .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[20:54] <Trusardi> gotcha
[20:54] <bioterror> inode/directory=audacious2.desktop;
[20:54] <bioterror> [Default Applications]
[20:54] <bioterror> inode/directory=audacious2.desktop
[20:56] <Trusardi> cool
[20:56] <Trusardi> it worked
[20:56] <Trusardi> thx bioterror
[20:56] <bioterror> np
[20:57]  * Trusardi bows and throws the teleportationtohogwarth powder on himself
[20:58] <bioterror> that was rather easy
[21:30] <edwardthefma> :)
[21:36] <KM0201> ?
 remer that error i told u i was getting
[23:17] <edwardthefma> remember
[23:17] <edwardthefma> with ten and 11
[23:17] <edwardthefma> well i tok a picture of it with my cam
 u thare
[23:31] <edwardthefma> (process:196:) GLib-WARNING : getpwuid_r (): failed due to unknown user id (0)
[23:31] <edwardthefma> [ 10.547657] vt596_smbus 0000:00:14.4:smbus: error smbus controler not enabled! _upgrade bios or use force=
[23:35] <edwardthefma> wen it says use force=1  waht dose it mean
[23:35] <edwardthefma> i dont want to risk my pc with a upgrade
[23:37] <phillw> edwardthefma: I'm not too sure where you and bioterror got to, but the 2nd error is what is known as a spurious error (a false error, that just annoys).
[23:38] <phillw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/531027 has some details on it. If it is actually stopping you from booting, then it is an entirely different problem.
[23:39] <edwardthefma> ok
[23:39] <phillw> edwardthefma: can you log on okay?
[23:39] <edwardthefma> no
[23:40] <phillw> okay, then it looks to me as if you will have to use the force option.
[23:40] <edwardthefma> how do i do that
[23:41] <edwardthefma> also waht is force
[23:41] <phillw> edwardthefma: is the computer an older model?
[23:41] <edwardthefma> yes
[23:42] <phillw> it may be tied to an old BIOS, the force is an attempt to over-ride that.
[23:42] <edwardthefma> compaq presaro 500US
[23:42] <edwardthefma> i dont want to risk the bios upgrade
[23:43] <edwardthefma> if i kill the mother bord the pc is scrap
[23:44] <phillw> that is quite okay, I'm just digging around for suggested threads that are marked [SOLVED] (I prefer to advise people to use those ones!)
[23:44] <edwardthefma> ok
[23:45] <edwardthefma> i think ill probbly have to fix it with a live cd
[23:46] <edwardthefma> that waht i love about linux
[23:46] <edwardthefma> wen shit brakes you can allwaysuse a live cd
[23:49] <ricardo-brasil> hi, I've installed lubuntu 11.04, but I'm having some trouble with it. It just stop working when I right-click in menu and then click on desktop and so click on menu again... it just stop, and I got to restart computer
[23:52] <phillw> edwardthefma: as far as I can see, force=1 is to check out the hard drive in case it has been scrambled. This does make some sense as from CD you can boot okay.
[23:53] <edwardthefma> ok so waht do you sugest
[23:54] <edwardthefma> it the hard drive then
[23:54] <edwardthefma> its
[23:55] <phillw> edwardthefma: I'd suggest doing a fsck once you have booted up from the liveCD (For heavens sake, NEVER fsck a 'live' system)!
[23:56] <edwardthefma> ok
[23:57]  * edwardthefma looks up the instrutions on  fsck
[23:58] <edwardthefma> :)
[23:59] <phillw> edwardthefma: that is what they want by putting force=1 into grub, it will make the disk area fsck at boot without the CD