[03:34] <skyitachi> any ideas about using c++ qt to write ubuntu-touch apps
[05:02] <mihir> Good Morning all :)
[06:49] <oSoMoN> gusch: morning, can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/gallery-app/fix-ftbfs/+merge/180786 ?
[06:50] <gusch> oSoMoN: I was just looking at the bug report
[06:50] <gusch> oSoMoN: so it seems the new version of libmediainfo changed the MEDIAINFO_CFLAGS_OTHER
[06:51] <gusch> oSoMoN: as ist was -DUNICODE only before
[06:51] <oSoMoN> gusch: mmm, ok, that explains why the issue hadn’t surfaced before
[06:51] <gusch> oSoMoN: so this is a workaround (for now), but a proper fix would be there then
[06:52] <oSoMoN> gusch: no I don’t think so, it’s just that CMAKE formats *_CFLAGS_OTHER as a semi-colon separated list, and we need a space separated one
[06:53] <oSoMoN> gusch: I don’t know if there’s a more elegant way of achieving this with cmake though, but the fix I wrote works
[06:53] <oSoMoN> gusch: once you’re done with the FTBFS, I’d need a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/ua-override/+merge/180592
[06:54] <gusch> oSoMoN: so every project using libmediainfo cand cmake, needs to use that hack ...
[06:54] <gusch> oSoMoN: ok looking
[06:55] <oSoMoN> gusch: as I understand it, it’s not just libmediainfo, it’s every single lib out there that uses pkg-config and has several defines in their cflags (cmake is the one adding the semi-colons)
[06:56] <gusch> oSoMoN: outsch
[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[07:01] <dpm> morning dholbach
[07:01] <dpm> good morning all
[07:01] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:01] <dpm> morgen ;)
[07:22] <gusch> oSoMoN: onyly minro comment on your user agent
[07:22] <gusch> oSoMoN: any idea why jenkins didn't pick up your gallery fix?
[07:23] <gusch> oSoMoN: and as this gallery issue is caused by the new libmediainfo that fixes the dependency, you could remove the libzen-dev dependency in debian/control in this MR
[07:40] <mihir> dpm: boiko good morning :)
[07:41] <dpm> morning mihir, nice work with the merge proposal, looking at it now :)
[07:58] <mihir> dpm: Thanks for the input
[07:58] <mihir> dpm: defiently we need design team inputs ,  but from last meeting I guess you weren't there but had dicussion with boiko
[08:01] <dpm> mihir, my suggestion would be to keep the current behaviour and concentrate on the existing bugs
[08:33] <oSoMoN> gusch_: no idea why jenkins didn’t pick it up, if it looks good to you can you approve, to see if it triggers autolanding?
[08:44] <mihir> dpm: Okay thanks :)
[08:44] <mihir> dpm: I'll put this bug a side and lets discuss this with boiko & design team
[08:48] <oSoMoN> gusch_: I just pushed an update to my MR
[08:49] <oSoMoN> gusch_: looks like the CI/autolanding jenkins for core apps is down :/
[08:54] <gusch_> oSoMoN: but your MR looks good (I'll aprove)
[08:55] <oSoMoN> gusch_: thanks!
[08:56] <dholbach> JamesTait, thanks for the update!
[09:16] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: hi, i addressed your remaining concerns in https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-extras/share-component/+merge/179688
[09:16] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: looking
[09:17] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: also i need some advice. i'm not sure that just adding the pot files will be enough to make the component i18n enabled
[09:17] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: can you have a look and let me know if anything is missing to have proper i18n ?
[09:18] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: I’ll do
[09:23] <WebbyIT> Hi boiko, can you help me, please? :) I'm working with InverseMouseArea, following you suggest, and it works perfectly  \o/ but...
[09:24] <WebbyIT> ... I can't click on anything else, also if I used propagateComposedEvents
[09:24] <WebbyIT> This is my code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002206/
[09:27] <WebbyIT> IMO is because propagateComposedEvents works only with the same element, so MouseArea is not affected, because it affects only InverseMouseArea
[09:28] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: just FYI, pushed some more copyright updates and the comma fix
[09:29] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: thanks
[09:30] <WebbyIT> boiko, I can  bypass the trouble using "enabled: numberName.focus;" but the first click outside the label is ignored
[09:31] <oSoMoN> WebbyIT: boiko won’t be online for the next 3hrs or so
[09:33] <WebbyIT> thanks oSoMoN :)
[09:35] <oSoMoN> WebbyIT: out of curiosity, how exactly are you trying to use the IMA?
[09:36] <WebbyIT> oSoMoN, https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1203090/+merge/179431
[09:38] <WebbyIT> oSoMoN, I have to unfocus a label
[09:40] <WebbyIT> oSoMoN, have you a better idea/implementation?
[09:41] <oSoMoN> WebbyIT: looking at it
[09:44] <WebbyIT> oSoMoN, thanks you very much :)
[09:47] <WebbyIT> hi christina, in your opinion, is acceptable if in calculator app the first click to unfocus a label if ignored. (eg, you write in a label, you click on number 9, label is unfocus but number 9 is not accepted). It's about bug 1203090
[09:47] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1203090 in Ubuntu Calculator App "[Calculator app] Tapping on numbers should exit label edit" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203090
[09:49] <christina> hi WebbyIT let me take a look
[09:50] <WebbyIT> *is ignored
[09:50] <WebbyIT> thanks christina :)
[09:51] <christina> WebbyIT, i think the number needs to be accepted...otherwise we will have users continuously retyping their calculation, and likely to make more mistakes
[09:52] <WebbyIT> christina, I had imagined... ok thanks, I'll work on it
[09:52] <christina> WebbyIT, thanks :) let me know if u got other questions
[09:53] <WebbyIT> christina, yeah, sure, thanks for your availability :)
[09:55] <oSoMoN> WebbyIT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002284/ should do the trick
[10:08] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: one comment regarding translations
[10:13] <WebbyIT> oSoMoN, it works \o/
[10:14] <WebbyIT> oSoMoN, thanks :) What's the trick? mouse.accepted?
[10:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: checking in a minute, thanks
[10:15] <oSoMoN> WebbyIT: apparently the combination of mouse.accepted and propapagateCompositeEvents
[10:15] <oSoMoN> -pa
[10:16] <WebbyIT> oSoMoN, every day I learn something new... thanks you very very much!
[10:16] <oSoMoN> WebbyIT: you’re welcome :)
[10:26] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: do you have any idea who i can ask for advice to if my phone is failing to boot ? (display google logo for a bit then powers off. battery seems to be fully charged)
[10:26] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: sergiusens would be the man, or rsalveti maybe. Can you boot in recovery mode?
[10:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: yes
[10:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: guess i can reflash from there
[10:28] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: yeah, try that before pinging them
[10:28] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN:trying that, thanks
[10:44] <WebbyIT> dpm or popey, can you please test https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1203090/+merge/179431 on you r device?
[10:44] <WebbyIT> It's about bug 1203090
[10:44] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1203090 in Ubuntu Calculator App "[Calculator app] Tapping on numbers should exit label edit" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203090
[10:44] <popey> WebbyIT: sure can!
[10:45] <popey> WebbyIT: will have to wait a short while, my phone is currently running some automated tests, but will test that when done.
[10:45] <WebbyIT> popey, ok, thanks :)
[10:57] <WebbyIT> sorry, blackout
[10:58] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: to have a .mo file generated at least a .po file (i.e. translation in a language) has to be added to the po directory, right ?
[11:00] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: correct, I suggest you add italian (or klingon if you prefer)
[11:01] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: just copy the .pot , renamed as it.po and add the translations in there ?
[11:01] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: no, there’s a command to generate a po file from a pot, let me check
[11:02] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: try msginit, or maybe msgmerge
[11:38] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: msginit worked fine to create the .po, but when i cmake . and make it still doesn't seem to generate any .mo files anywhere in the build directory
[11:39] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: then you’re missing something in the infrastructure, you should compare it to a working project and see what’s missing
[11:40] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i did that comparison originally when i set it up. i'll have another look to see if i missed something, but i might need a second pair of eyeballs to have a look at it later if i can't find what's wrong
[11:41] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: ok, please ping me again if you need a second look, atm I’m rather busy with other stuff
[11:55] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i think i fixed it. everything is pushed to the MR
[11:57] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: thanks, looking
[11:59] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: either you didn’t really push, or lp didn’t pick it up yet
[12:01] <clepto> nik90: Chris here!
[12:11] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: sorry, my mistake. it's there now
[12:20] <hakermania> clepto, I didn't know you used to go on IRC, too. Alex here :D
[12:56] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: one more comment on translationst
[12:56] <oSoMoN> -t
[13:19] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: pushed the fix you requested
[13:19] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: will give one last round of test when jenkins finishes
[13:22] <xqwzts> kalikiana: When you're around could you give me a hand with U1db queries?
[13:23] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i also checked and it seems that the package for ubuntu-ui-extras is not in the image yet. who did you say i should contact to get it there ?
[13:29] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: so it should be in saucy first, and then I guess it will automatically be pulled in the image through the deps
[13:30] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: looks like the package is not in saucy, so I think you need to contact didrock’s team
[13:30] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, thanks
[13:37] <zsombi> nik90: ping
[13:37] <nik90> zsombi: hi :)
[13:38] <zsombi> nik90: just fyi: the Alarms API landed in trunk, so you should be able to start working with it soon
[13:38] <nik90> zsombi: wow!
[13:39] <nik90> zsombi: I will get started once the design has been finalised which should be very soon
[13:39] <zsombi> nik90: remember, that you may not see any alarm note popping up though
[13:40] <nik90> zsombi: you mean the notification
[13:40] <nik90> zsombi: I will be hiding the interface from the user until the platform api is actually ready
[13:40] <nik90> zsombi: this way the user doesnt get confused that it does not work
[13:40] <zsombi> nik90: from the system. Alarms will get saved, but the notifications won't come yet
[13:40] <zsombi> nik90: yep
[13:41] <nik90> zsombi: okay
[13:52] <_5m0k3> Is there a way to use open a dialog (PopupUtils.open) from an external javascript file?
[13:52] <Chocanto> nik90: ping
[13:53] <randomcpp> how can I show two pages at the same time?
[13:55] <mrqtros> randomcpp, wat? :D
[13:55] <randomcpp> two Pages side by side :)
[13:56] <mrqtros> randomcpp, you can display two items, two rectangle, or any count of QML components simultaneously, but Page designed as full-space component
[13:56] <mrqtros> rectangles*
[13:56] <randomcpp> mh ok thank you
[13:57] <iBelieve> randomcpp, what are you trying to accomplish?
[13:57] <randomcpp> so for larger screens, I must use a sidebar
[13:58] <iBelieve> randomcpp, what's your license? I've got a nice generic Sidebar component that you can use.
[13:58] <randomcpp> gplv3
[13:58] <randomcpp> I've already seen your sidebar in filemanager-app
[13:59] <iBelieve> randomcpp, I've improved that for my Showdown app.  If you'd like to use it, I gave instructions here: https://github.com/Clepto/cnotes-ubuntu-touch/issues/9#issuecomment-22868937
[13:59] <randomcpp> thanks iBelieve :)
[14:00] <iBelieve> randomcpp, you're welcome.
[14:00] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: one more comment on your MR
[14:02] <_5m0k3> I guess I'll just change the value of a variable from my javascript, and trigger action on that variable change to display the dialog.  Sure seems like a roundabout way to do it, though
[14:07] <_5m0k3> Scratch that.  I'll just write that one function in my .qml file, and call it from .js
[14:09] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i change in the CMakeLists.txt --keyword=tr to --keyword=dtr and the file gets built, but the contents inside are wrong
[14:10] <randomcpp> xqwzts, have you solved that u1db.query problem?
[14:10] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: how wrong?
[14:11] <nik90> Chocanto: pong
[14:11] <Chocanto> nik90: Hey ! How are you ? :)
[14:12] <nik90> Chocanto: hey. I am good :) and you?
[14:12] <xqwzts> randomcpp: Nope. Will stop trying until someone can confirm whether it's supposed to be working or not.
[14:12] <Chocanto> nik90: Very good thank you :) Just to tell you with the merge I did for file-qml-plugin, the plugin work fine
[14:12] <Chocanto> nik90: But I think you have new mehods to add
[14:12] <xqwzts> _5m0k3: if you expose your popover to the js script can't you then call .open() on it?
[14:13] <nik90> Chocanto: yes. I am just being over worked these past few days that I barely have time to even work on the clock app.
[14:13] <nik90> Chocanto: I will try to do a merge proposal by today
[14:14] <nik90> Chocanto: that should have the file read function. Do we a write function?
[14:14] <Chocanto> nik90: I can maybe help you
[14:14] <Chocanto> nik90: no, we don't have a write function
[14:15] <nik90> Chocanto: I meant, do we *need* a write function?
[14:15] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: this kind of wrong: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6002988/
[14:15] <nik90> Chocanto: technically we are writing a file qml plugin, so perhaps we could include for others to use
[14:15] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: doesn’t look right indeed
[14:16] <Chocanto> nik90: Oh, hum... The docviewer is only, obviously, a viewer. So for me I don't really need it, only for pdf to make annotations but I will use my poppler plugin to do it
[14:16] <Chocanto> nik90: Yes you are right
[14:16] <Chocanto> nik90: So I will do it :)
[14:16] <Chocanto> nik90: And we need to work on the package to be able to send to the PPA
[14:18] <nik90> Chocanto: So shall I write the write/read function and propose a merge today?
[14:18] <nik90> Chocanto: I am sure regarding getting this package in a ppa or even to saucy, we can get the help of mhall119 for this.
[14:18] <Chocanto> nik90: You can only create the read function you need
[14:18] <Chocanto> nik90: *could
[14:19] <Chocanto> nik90: This is the most urgent
[14:19] <Chocanto> nik90: If you don't have a lot of time
[14:19] <randomcpp> xqwzts, ping me if you achieve something :)
[14:19] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: you might want to read http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/xgettext-Invocation.html#index-g_t_002d_002dkeyword_0040r_007b_002c-_0040code_007bxgettext_007d-option_007d-187
[14:19] <nik90> Chocanto: okay. Also the way I see it, if this plugin works well (with proper code) we can get this as a dependency of the sdk.
[14:19] <Chocanto> nik90: Yes, but before getting it in a PPA we have to work on the debian folder
[14:20] <nik90> Chocanto: agreed
[14:20] <Chocanto> nik90: Do you think they will agree to make it a dependency ?
[14:21] <nik90> Chocanto: I think so. Because when I wanted to write a plugin to read the timezone file, zsombi suggested that if it is good enough, it can be added to sdk itself. So if this plugin does what it advertises which is file read/write access I dont see why they wouldnt accept
[14:22] <Chocanto> nik90: Okay, that's good ! :)
[14:22] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, --keyword=tr:2 worked fine
[14:23] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: I guess it should be --keyword=dtr:2 then
[14:24] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: yep, and dtr:2,3 for the plurals
[14:24] <oSoMoN> cool
[14:24] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: pushed the fix
[14:28] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: looks good now, let’s wait for CI to run, and should be good to merge
[14:35] <nik90> xqwzts: you might want to remove the .qmlproject.user file. It is created on every developer machine. You can do that by adding it to .gitignore
[14:36] <xqwzts> nik90: thanks, wasn't aware if that was needed or not
[14:37] <WebbyIT> popey, hi :) Thanks for review, but I've a question
[14:37] <WebbyIT> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1203090/+merge/179431
[14:37] <WebbyIT> If you click a number, is the number add to the calc?
[14:38] <WebbyIT> e.g., modify a label, click on 9, is 9 display in the calc?
[14:50] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: just approved your MR, should I wait for you to port over the unit tests, or do you want to do it separately
[14:50] <oSoMoN> ?
[14:51] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: let me do the tests too, should not be too long
[14:52] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: ok
[14:52] <gusch_> nerochiaro boiko is one up for a review? https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-atest-tap-select/+merge/180877
[15:03] <nerochiaro> gusch_: i can have a look later but from a quick skim of the code i can't see anything obviously wrong
[15:03] <WebbyIT> boiko, I think we have some problem with Jenkins... test_click_history has to not exist, and I don't understand other errors. Well, I understand them, but I don't  understand why they fails!
[15:03] <gusch_> nerochiaro: thx - and no hurry
[15:03] <WebbyIT> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/382/?
[15:19] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: just pushed the unit tests, let's see if CI likes them
[15:29] <xqwzts> Hey all I've got a new update blog post for My Movies: http://www.xqwzts.com/2013/08/19/my-movies-rt-u1db.html
[15:34] <mefrio> hey guys do you know a way to simply add a password to my application??
[15:34] <mefrio> I am new at this field and I don't know how to properly encrypt a string...
[15:52] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: top-approved
[15:52] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: \o/ ! hopefully it will make it into saucy tomorrow
[15:53] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: yeah, please make sure to actively follow up with didrocks to ensure it lands asap
[15:56] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: will do
[16:01] <boiko> WebbyIT: hey, let me take them a look
[16:02] <boiko> WebbyIT: I remember having removed that click_history test, maybe I confused, I'll check that now
[16:03] <WebbyIT> boiko, yes, also I remember that someone has remove the click_history_test, but there is inJenkins...
[16:08] <nik90> xqwzts: ping
[16:08] <randomcpp> how can I display zoomed images? do I need to create a new page?
[16:11] <mrqtros> randomcpp, I advice you to learn basics of QML first before using Ubuntu Toolkit
[16:14] <boiko> WebbyIT: btw, I have one MR from you that needs autopilot testing, https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1210082/+merge/179672
[16:14] <randomcpp> mrqtros, yeah that's what I'm doing, I'm using plain qml
[16:15] <mrqtros> randomcpp, why do you always talk about pages?
[16:15] <mrqtros> randomcpp, Page is custom component from some QML toolkits for mobile platform, for ex. MeeGo or Ubuntu phone
[16:15] <WebbyIT> boiko, yes, but I have to update the merge after the fix of bug  1179422 , and I think we will have to rewrite a lots of test, so I'm waiting.
[16:15] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1179422 in Ubuntu Calculator App "[Calculator app] Can't add to existing equation once equals is entered" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1179422
[16:15] <randomcpp> mrqtros, because I don't know what the ubuntu hig requires, maybe there's some predefined or advised way to do something with ubuntu components
[16:16] <randomcpp> if it was for me I'd use vanilla qml
[16:16] <boiko> WebbyIT: ah, the click_history was erroneously added again, I will re-remove it :)
[16:17] <WebbyIT> boiko, I wrote to (other) Riccardo one week ago and he said that he tried to fix the bug for last Saturday, I write again today and if he'll not answer to me in 24h I'll take care of the bug
[16:17] <WebbyIT> boiko, good news :)
[16:17] <mrqtros> randomcpp, think about Page as about window, fullscreen background for your content
[16:18] <iBelieve> randomcpp, try taking a look through http://design.ubuntu.com/apps to see what you should be using Pages for
[16:18] <boiko> WebbyIT: sounds like a plan, better not to be waiting forever. You can write another message to Ricardo saying you are going to be working on the bug once you decide you should take it over
[16:19] <WebbyIT> boiko, yes, I looked at the code and I know how to change it, if Riccardo doesn't fix in a couple of day, I'll take it
[16:22] <boiko> WebbyIT: ok
[16:27] <boiko> WebbyIT: btw, I noticed something: the autoipilot tests expect you don't have any previous calculation saved
[16:28] <boiko> WebbyIT: it clears up the saved stuff before finishing up the test, but if for some reason it crashes or gets finished before that, the next test will probably fail
[16:31] <WebbyIT> boiko, mhh, we have to investigate it... probabily is because when test try to take a result, if there are old results, find two label with same result...
[16:43] <xqwzts> nik90: pong
[17:25] <karni> Hey guys, can someone tell me why a button click event doesn't work? I made a simple Ubuntu Cordova project that should just console.log a message. lp:~karni/+junk/ubuntu-html-button-test
[17:36] <xqwzts> karni: can you pastebin the code?
[17:37] <karni> xqwzts: It's html and js, I'm talking to a person at #ubuntu-touch to help me. Thanks for asking, though, xqwzts ! :)
[17:37] <xqwzts> np
[17:53] <mihir> Hi all :)
[17:54] <mrqtros> Hi!
[17:57] <mihir> boiko: hi
[17:59] <boiko> hey mihir :)
[17:59] <boiko> mihir: have you seen the mail I sent you?
[18:02] <mihir> boiko: Nope checking
[18:06] <mihir> boiko:  replied :) thanks for the email :)
[18:08] <boiko> mihir: so, right now I am fixing/disabling some autopilot tests (they don't work because of existing bugs) so that the current MRs can pass
[18:14] <mihir> boiko: Okay no issues :)
[18:14] <mihir> letme know if I can help you with that..:)
[18:15] <mihir> WebbyIT: You tookover 1179422 ?
[18:15] <mihir> bug 1179422
[18:15] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1179422 in Ubuntu Calculator App "[Calculator app] Can't add to existing equation once equals is entered" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1179422
[18:15] <WebbyIT> mihir, yes, Riccardo wrote me that he have no time... I have to go, see you tomorrow
[18:29] <maarten_> Hi! I'm wondering how I can install my own app that I published on the app store?
[18:29] <maarten_> I would like to test the setup an end user gets..
[18:30] <maarten_> There is a private launchpad ppa link but I'm not sure if I can even install from there
[18:57] <_5m0k3> BlackJack App Update:  https://plus.google.com/110587021591787005452/posts/ZoAnTARTYoQ  Source in post
[18:58] <mefrio> _5m0k3, hey it looks very nice :)
[19:01] <_5m0k3> Thanks mefrio
[19:23] <osarrouy> hi everyone
[19:30] <nik90> xqwzts: sry, had to go out
[19:30] <nik90> xqwzts: http://www.xqwzts.com/static/images/20130819-my-movies-rt-u1db/new-300.png this pic shows the upcoming movies. For me this doesnt work
[19:30] <nik90> xqwzts: I just get a blank page
[19:31] <nik90> Nothing in the All Movies section show anything for me
[19:31] <xqwzts> strange
[19:31] <xqwzts> does Search work?
[19:31] <xqwzts> [theyre all calls to rottentomatoes apis]
[19:32] <nik90> xqwzts: search works fine
[19:32] <nik90> I can click on a search result and it shows me hte movie details
[19:33] <nik90> it is just the upcoming, new movies etc that do not work
[19:33] <nik90> it is as if the entire list is hidden or something
[19:33] <nik90> xqwzts: let me try to download the code fresh and then give it a try
[19:33] <xqwzts> would you mind helping me debug this from your end?
[19:33] <xqwzts> nik90: that could solve it
[19:34] <xqwzts> nik90: please rm the old code first though
[19:34] <nik90> yes
[19:34] <nik90> 1 min
[19:34] <xqwzts> I changed the project layout so it might conflict
[19:35] <nik90> xqwzts: yup now it works :)
[19:35] <xqwzts> nik90: horay!
[19:36] <nik90> xqwzts: 1 thing though. the text shown (details of movie) could use some formatting
[19:36] <nik90> it looks too tightly spaced and a bit random
[19:37] <xqwzts> nik90: what do you suggest? spacing between the items would be enough?
[19:37] <xqwzts> the problem is there's a lot of text, and displaying it all ends up cluttery
[19:37] <xqwzts> especially for movie's with a large cast and synopsis
[19:38] <xqwzts> [which is why i made those 2 fields collapsable]
[19:38] <nik90> xqwzts: true, but doesn't rotten tomatoes api provide a summary of the movie? something 7-8 lines?
[19:38] <xqwzts> nope
[19:38] <xqwzts> it's a bit random it seems
[19:39] <xqwzts> some movies don't even have a synopsis
[19:39] <nik90> xqwzts: can you experiment with different levels of transparency and take screenshot
[19:39] <xqwzts> the older you go the less info you find
[19:39] <nik90> the text is visible, but just experimenting if a darker tone might look better
[19:39] <xqwzts> could do
[19:40] <nik90> also when I expand the text, I can scroll up but it doesnt stay at that position
[19:40] <nik90> the same with the side scroll to reveal movie cover
[19:40] <xqwzts> yes
[19:40] <xqwzts> that's intentional
[19:40] <nik90> the up/down scroll or the side scroll?
[19:40] <xqwzts> its just scrolling to read
[19:40] <xqwzts> since its just a couple of lines
[19:40] <xqwzts> and it snaps back to place
[19:41] <xqwzts> for both
[19:41] <xqwzts> for the side - you can flick it out
[19:41] <xqwzts> or you can move it slowly
[19:41] <xqwzts> flicking it will get the overlay off
[19:41] <nik90> I was just looking at one upcoming movie called Winnie Mandela and the text is long.
[19:41] <xqwzts> moving will keep it where your mouse is
[19:41] <nik90> in which case I need it to stay up to read the rest of text
[19:42] <xqwzts> hmm
[19:42] <xqwzts> i was thinking of someone reading on their phone
[19:42] <xqwzts> and just pushing up to read
[19:42] <xqwzts> didn't consider making it like a scrollable text where it sticks to position
[19:43] <xqwzts> will try both and see which i prefer
[19:43] <nik90> I think you should. It seems a bit odd.
[19:43] <nik90> yeah experiment with it
[19:44] <xqwzts> will do cheers
[19:44] <nik90> also the options such as collection, seen etc can be put on a popover
[19:44] <nik90> the one where it shows a list when you press a button
[19:44] <nik90> and you can put it in a toolbar
[19:45] <nik90> xqwzts
[19:45] <nik90> incase you didnt see the last messages
[19:45] <xqwzts> yup definitely
[19:45] <xqwzts> i thought of getting them icons and keeping them there
[19:45] <xqwzts> but they crowd it out too much
[19:46] <xqwzts> especially if i allow custom lists at some point in the future
[19:46] <xqwzts> [planned for later]
[19:46] <nik90> I thought of giving the screen just for the movie details would be awesome
[19:46] <xqwzts> i like that, then theres more screen real estate to space out the details too
[19:47] <xqwzts> i unfortunately [fortunately!] will be on vacation starting next week until the end of the competition, so focusing on getting core critical functionality out before coming back to alot of these smaller issues.
[19:47] <xqwzts> but having another pair of eyes on it helps point out what's important to make it more usable
[19:47] <nik90> oh
[19:48] <nik90> xqwzts: in that case I will review your app asap to see what it needs
[19:48] <xqwzts> that would be super helpful!
[19:48] <xqwzts> but I don't want you having to go over this multiple times
[19:49] <xqwzts> so if it's a pain it can wait till im more done-ish
[19:49] <nik90> xqwzts: no worries, I really like app and want it with some nice features
[19:49] <nik90> and report bug reports
[19:49] <xqwzts> :)
[19:50] <xqwzts> I think it's going to need more work than just the competition timeframe anyway, so will definitely keep adding features and polishing.
[19:50] <nik90> btw does favorites work?
[19:51] <xqwzts> U1db queries are either broken or we just can't figure out how to use them
[19:51] <nik90> xqwzts: true this doesnt need to stop here, but for the competition having something reliable and stable would be nice
[19:51] <nik90> ah too bad
[19:51] <xqwzts> so for now all the 'my movies' lists aren't working properly
[19:51] <nik90> did you talk to kalkiana if i am right?
[19:51] <xqwzts> it 'works' in the sense that it saves the movie to the db and marks it as a favorite
[19:52] <xqwzts> waiting for him to be on/free
[19:52] <nik90> I hope you catch him tomorrow
[20:06] <maarten_> Hi! I'm wondering how I can install my own app that I published on the app store?
[20:06] <maarten_> I would like to test the setup an end user gets..
[20:06] <maarten_> There is a private launchpad ppa link but I'm not sure if I can even install from there
[20:25] <hakermania> maarten_, If launchpad has successfully build a deb for you system, then you can install it from there.
[20:28] <maarten_> hackermania: I haven't build the deb myself. (It is a prop. app) I have sent debian src file to the ubuntu app team
[20:28] <maarten_> And they build debs for all architectures
[21:27] <mefrio> is it possible to set  a Page color which is different from the colors of the whole app?
[21:35] <szymon> hi! I'm developing app for UT and when I place TextField in my app and I run this app on device via Qt Creator ( ctrl + f12 ) when TextField get clicked no keyboard is shown. I even went through few core apps and it looks like there is no special code to invoke soft keyboard but it works on core apps where on my app it's not.  Any idea ?
[22:00] <iBelieve> mefrio, yes. Let me pastebin some code for you
[22:03] <iBelieve> mefrio, Here is how I do it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6004482/
[22:03] <mefrio> iBelieve, thank you :)
[22:03] <iBelieve> mefrio, you're welcome!
[23:24] <nik90> iBelieve: u r a machine! Added recurring and checklist suport..damn
[23:25] <iBelieve> nik90, :)
[23:25] <iBelieve> nik90, a lot of the code for checklists was already done, I just had to work out some of the kinks in it
[23:27] <nik90> iBelieve: i havve to restart to try latest build
[23:27] <nik90> will brb
[23:31] <nik90> iBelieve: i get error message
[23:31] <nik90> iBelieve: tasks-app.qml:26 module "QtSystemInfo" is not installed
[23:32] <iBelieve> nik90, I forgot to remove the import for that. I was tinkering around with trying to check for an internet connection for upcoming Trello/GitHub/Launchpad/whatever support
[23:32] <nik90> ah
[23:32] <nik90> iBelieve: i just read your README.md
[23:32] <nik90> i will install it
[23:33] <iBelieve> nik90, I half-rewrote the backend, so no existing tasks will work.
[23:36] <nik90> iBelieve: oh ok
[23:37] <chrisd_> greetings
[23:38] <chrisd_> is there a cheat sheet for all the steps needed to build an app
[23:38] <chrisd_> sprry noob


[07:20] <jtv> I wonder why the postgres fixture passes some of its arguments as one string.
[07:20] <jtv> When executing pg_ctl, I mean.
[07:22] <jtv> The fixture calls check_call() to run pg_ctl to start a cluster, but instead of passing a list of strings, one per command-line argument, it combines some of the arguments into one longer string with spaces.
[07:22] <jtv> Bound to cause trouble.
[15:26] <roadmr> evilnickveitch: hello, I was told you're the person to talk to for a typo in a maas documentation web page.
[15:50] <evilnickveitch> roadmr, i am such a person
[15:50] <evilnickveitch> where is it?
[15:52] <roadmr> evilnickveitch: thanks! https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/charms-deploying.html
[15:52] <roadmr> evilnickveitch: at the end of the "Considerations" section, it reads "scale out the service on it's own node"
[15:52] <roadmr> it should be "its", no apostrophe
[15:53] <evilnickveitch> it should indeed. thanks for that, i will get it fixed. Will probably be live by the end of the day
[15:55] <roadmr> evilnickveitch: thanks! every time a bad "it's" is fixed, a kitten gets fed :)
[15:59] <evilnickveitch> :)
[17:20] <roadmr> evilnickveitch: hey found another typo! https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/charms-exposing.html search for "abtracts"
[17:20] <evilnickveitch> ok
[17:21] <roadmr> evilnickveitch: ... just realized this is about juju, not maas :/ let me know if I should direct this to someone else
[17:21] <roadmr> evilnickveitch: on that same page, "expose the service via it's given address" (its again)
[17:22] <roadmr> evilnickveitch: finally, search for "simly" in that page :D
[17:22] <evilnickveitch> roadmr, yeah, these are juju pages, but it's (!) okay, I am the goto person for docs in cloud
[17:23] <roadmr> I see what you did there :) well thanks for your help!
[17:28] <evilnickveitch> roadmr, thankyou for pointing out the mistakes - they bug me just as much, but I have a lot of pages to read so it's unlikely I will spot them all
[17:29] <roadmr> evilnickveitch: no problem, I'm (clearly) reading through juju documentation, so with fresh eyes I can help catch a few of those.
[17:31] <evilnickveitch> cool. If I am not around, you can always file a bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+filebug
[17:31] <evilnickveitch> or fix it yourself if you are so inclined -
[17:32] <evilnickveitch> https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/contributing.html
[17:37] <roadmr> evilnickveitch: oh cool! thanks!
[23:53] <ging> i've added my ssh key to my root user through the webinterface, should that then get copied to the ubuntu user for all nodes allocated to root that are already booted, or only newly booted ones or only newly provisioned ones? because at the moment i don't seem to be able to get in at all
[23:53] <bigjools> it only copies it to newly booted machines
[23:54] <ging> for the sirius user?
[23:54] <bigjools> FWIW if you use juju it handles all that for you
[23:54] <ging> i mean ubuntu user
[23:54] <ging> i've not setup juju, does that mean it won't do it at all?
[23:54] <bigjools> not at all
[23:55] <bigjools> it just makes life easier
[23:59] <ging> ok i'll give setting that up a go


[03:11] <rick_h__> wgrant: ping
[03:12] <wgrant> rick_h__: Hi
[03:12] <rick_h__> wgrant: hey, saw your bug. I've got a fix I'm trying to land for that, but it got rejected by pqm for a bad commit message regex
[03:13] <wgrant> rick_h__: PQM is in testfix because of a bad db-devel landing.
[03:13] <rick_h__> with the lack of rollouts over friday/weekend it was decided to not rollback, just land
[03:13] <rick_h__> ah, so that's what it's saying
[03:13] <wgrant> OK.
[03:13] <wgrant> Let's cheat.
[03:13] <wgrant> If we force db-devel to build, you can land stuff until it fails again.;
[03:13] <rick_h__> wgrant: https://code.launchpad.net/~rharding/launchpad/link_tags_894726 has the fix
[03:14] <wgrant> It's forced -- try landing again at :21 or so
[03:14] <rick_h__> wgrant: ah ok. Will get that ready then
[03:14] <rick_h__> now this is just via a pqm land right? bypassing ec2?
[03:14] <wgrant> Yep
[03:14] <wgrant> Use bzr lp-land
[03:14] <wgrant> Or bzr pqm-submit directly, if lp-land doesn't work.
[03:14]  * rick_h__ hasn't tried that out yet
[03:15] <rick_h__> will do
[03:15] <wgrant> Use bzr lp-land just like ec2 land
[03:15] <wgrant> Or pqm-submit like 'bzr pqm-submit -m "[r=foo][bug=bar] blah blah blah"'
[03:16] <rick_h__> ok, will try bzr lp-land in a few then.
[03:16] <wgrant> Great.
[03:27] <rick_h__> wgrant: "bzr: ERROR: No PQM submission email address specified for" quick search finds a request to add a feature to bzr, nothing in dev.lp.net?
[03:27] <wgrant> rick_h__: Hm, if you're using the directory structure generated by rocketfuel-setup that should work.
[03:28] <wgrant> Otherwise --public-location=bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rharding/launchpad/link_tags_894726 --submit-branch=bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel
[03:28] <rick_h__> yea, that's how I got things started...ok will poke at it.
[03:28] <wgrant> Give those two options to pqm-submit as well.
[03:29] <rick_h__> wgrant: ok, running
[03:29] <rick_h__> yea, same email error
[03:29] <rick_h__> sorry, that's from the bzr pqm-submit, let me try the other
[03:29] <wgrant> Oh.
[03:29] <wgrant> email address
[03:29] <wgrant> Hm
[03:29] <wgrant> You are running it from the right directory, right? :)
[03:30] <rick_h__> yea, same...grr
[03:30] <rick_h__> /home/rharding/launchpad/lp-branches/link_tags_894726
[03:30] <wgrant> Hmm
[03:30] <wgrant> Does your ~/.bazaar/locations.conf have a 'pqm_email' set?
[03:31] <rick_h__> no, nothing there
[03:31] <wgrant> Huh
[03:31] <wgrant> rocketfuel-setup should have set that up.
[03:31] <wgrant> I think.
[03:31] <wgrant> Maybe not.
[03:32] <wgrant> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/773959/ is what I use
[03:32] <rick_h__> yea http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/plugins/en/pqm-plugin.html seems to imply I need a bunch of stuff
[03:33] <wgrant> You probably already have the second part of that.
[03:33] <rick_h__> yea, just missing the email bits
[03:34] <rick_h__> ok, got something going. lp-land still hates me, but the manual command with paths ran
[03:35] <wgrant> Heh
[03:35] <rick_h__> can I manually change the tag then on the bug from qa-bad?
[03:35] <wgrant> It's complicated™
[03:35] <wgrant> It's technically not qa-bad.
[03:35] <wgrant> Because we already deployed it, but disabled the feature.
[03:36] <wgrant> So yes, it's no longer qa-bad.
[03:36] <rick_h__> yea, I seemed to have done this a bit wrong from the start unfortunately :/
[03:36] <wgrant> qa-tagger will automatically reset it to qa-needstesting once this lands.
[03:36] <rick_h__> ah ok then
[03:36] <wgrant> Meh, our QA workflow was designed before feature flags.
[03:36] <wgrant> Nobody is quite sure how it works in this situation :)
[03:36] <rick_h__> I wasn't sure if pqm would even try this since it was qa-bad already
[03:36] <wgrant> PQM doesn't know about any of that.
[03:36] <rick_h__> gotcha, still figuring out the moving parts. Just a few of them :)
[03:37] <wgrant> Yeah :/
[03:37] <rick_h__> It's nice to have the whole process, but sometimes miss $ ssh server && git pull
[03:38] <wgrant> Yeeeeeees.
[03:38] <rick_h__> thanks for the help wgrant and the link to the pystache fix. I had missed that.
[03:38] <wgrant> np
[03:38] <rick_h__> I really hate that thing, but can't find anything else with both server/clide side use :(
[03:39] <wgrant> Yeah :/
[03:39] <wgrant> It seems to work mostly.
[03:39] <rick_h__> yea, but it's got a lot of issues to watch out for like this
[03:39] <rick_h__> love that there's a branch named "spec-compliant"
[03:39] <wgrant> Heh
[03:40] <rick_h__> kind of would hope that would be called ...oh... "master"
[03:40] <rick_h__> sweet, pqm emails say merged
[03:40] <wgrant> You would think so :)
[03:40] <wgrant> Excellent!
[07:05] <lifeless> right, mail sent
[21:51] <wallyworld_> lifeless: you around for a quick question?
[22:48] <wgrant> wallyworld_: He's not here this week.
[22:49] <wgrant> StevenK: around?
[22:50] <wallyworld_> wgrant: you weren't online yet :-) i just wanted to know, how to fix the deployment report to link rev 14540 as fixing qa-bad rev 14526
[22:50] <wgrant> That's a trick question.
[22:50] <wgrant> 14526 isn't really qa-bad
[22:50] <wallyworld_> it's marked as qa-bad
[22:50] <wgrant> But it's a lie :)
[22:51] <wgrant> Hmm.
[22:51] <wgrant> Perhaps not.
[22:51] <wallyworld_> if it were qa-bad, and a subsequent rev was landed without the correct tag, how do we fix that?
[22:51] <wgrant> rick_h__ confused me yesterday.
[22:51] <wgrant> I thought the bug listing beta was disabled so we could deploy that revision anyway.
[22:51] <wgrant> But that revision is not deployed.
[22:51] <wallyworld_> ie to say that once 14540 is ok, so too is 14526
[22:51] <wgrant> Which must mean there's another bad revision that caused the beta bug listings to be disabled.
[22:52] <wgrant> wallyworld_: There's no way to do that.
[22:52] <wgrant> You have to lie that one of them is qa-ok, or just pretend that the deployment report is green.
[22:52] <wallyworld_> normally, landing a subsequent rev is rollback-xxx is the right thing to do, no?
[22:52] <wallyworld_> s/is/with
[22:52] <wallyworld_> rollback=xxx i mean
[22:53] <wallyworld_> i'm keen to get my rev 14528 deployed since it fixes a regression
[22:54] <wgrant> "normally"" == if you want to wait 13 hours
[22:54] <wgrant> Which you don't.
[22:54] <wgrant> So normally doesn't apply here.
[22:55] <wallyworld_> what i meant was, rev 14540 should have been landed with rollback=14526
[22:55] <wgrant> Ah, yes, probably.
[22:55] <wgrant> But I was under the impression that the earlier rev was already deployed.
[22:56] <wallyworld_> and since it wasn't i wanted to fix but it seems we can't do that from what you said above
[22:56] <wgrant> You can't, no.
[22:57] <wallyworld_> and it seems we can't deploy for a while then since there's a lot on un-qaed revs between 14526 and 14540
[22:57] <wallyworld_> so my regression fix will have ot wait :-(
[22:57] <wgrant> I also don't know why the bug listings are disabled.
[22:58] <wallyworld_> i thought there was an issue (which i can't recall) hence they were to only be for ~launchpad-beta
[22:59] <wallyworld_> are they now disabled for everyone?
[23:00] <wgrant> They're disabled for everyone.
[23:00] <wgrant> They're not out of beta yet.
[23:00] <wgrant> Still ages away from being ready.
[23:01] <wallyworld_> wgrant: so there must have been an issue then that cause them to be turned off since i joined the team which allowed me to see them
[23:01] <wallyworld_> and they are due out of beta this week afaik
[23:02] <wgrant> due, yes :)
[23:02] <wgrant> Many things have been due out of beta before.
[23:03] <wallyworld_> we'll see then i guess. it did appear to all be under control


[08:17] <diplo> Morning all
[11:07] <Rixon> does cron do brace expansion or will I have to trigger /bin/bash -c "... {file1,file2}" ?
[11:34] <SuperMatt> do the latter, just to be sure
[11:35] <SuperMatt> I personally prefer to put everything into a script and toggle that
[11:35] <SuperMatt> Also, look in to systemd timers
[13:50] <diplo> Are you good with systemd SuperMatt ?
[13:50] <SuperMatt> I'm good enough
[13:50] <SuperMatt> The arch wiki havs some great resources though
[13:51] <diplo> May poke you in a few days then :) yeah I have a couple of things I'm not clear on, that I cna't seem to read up on enough to understand
[14:03] <SuperMatt> Sure, go ahead. I'll try to answer, but I can't guarantee much in the way of success
[14:04] <diplo> heh, it'll be later on in the week, re-writing init scripts currently and then moving on to systemd
[14:09] <SuperMatt> Ah, you'll probably have no problems ith that
[14:39] <brobostigon> afternoon boys and girls.
[14:47] <diddledan> artanoon
[14:50] <brobostigon> afternoon
[20:11] <daftykins> m0nkey_: i'm down in Spain with that clients' AMD APU router running pfsense, working very nicely on the fibre service here!
[20:13] <daftykins> ok gotta go for now, being plied with wine
[20:16] <brobostigon> lucky duckie, :)
[20:18] <m0nkey_> awesome.
[20:19] <m0nkey_> I really want the blue case, but they wont have stock until end of the month :(


[12:51] <xu-irc88w> Hi all
[14:41] <LLIypuk> evening
[14:42] <LLIypuk> would somebody please verify one issue regarding xubuntu 20.04 ?
[14:44] <coconut> LLIypuk, i do not have xubuntu available here, but please say
[14:44] <LLIypuk> fsck.mode=skip kernel parameter gets ignored
[14:48] <coconut> LLIypuk, i am just waiting just like you
[14:49] <LLIypuk> coconut, waiting for what?
[20:20] <professor-mad-do> hello i have problem with videos tearing in xubuntu
[20:21] <professor-mad-do> any help
[20:24] <well_laid_lawn> professor-mad-do: which vid card do you have ?
[20:24] <well_laid_lawn> turned compositing off ?
[20:25] <professor-mad-do> well_laid_lawn, intel graphic
[20:28] <well_laid_lawn> is the tearing with compositing on /
[20:29] <professor-mad-do> well_laid_lawn, yes
[20:30] <professor-mad-do> well_laid_lawn, i add this line to xorg.conf
[20:30] <professor-mad-do> Option "TearFree" "true"
[20:30] <professor-mad-do> but now every boot i get a little display  error in the wallpaper
[20:30] <professor-mad-do> but the tearing gone
[20:34] <well_laid_lawn> you might need to hae the intel driver use UXA instead of the default SNA
[20:35] <professor-mad-do> well_laid_lawn, how can i do that
[20:35] <professor-mad-do> im a beginner in linux
[20:35] <professor-mad-do> can you explain me please the steps
[20:35] <professor-mad-do> ??
[20:37] <well_laid_lawn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/638231/how-can-i-switch-graphic-card-acceleration-from-sna-to-uxa
[20:38] <well_laid_lawn> after turning off compositing that's the next thing I would try
[20:41] <professor-mad-do> well_laid_lawn, do you think that could solve my problem
[20:41] <professor-mad-do> ??
[20:44] <well_laid_lawn> hard to tell from here but afaik it is the next thing to try
[20:47] <professor-mad-do> ok
[23:38] <hamdimmature> hi
[23:55] <Xarizzar> whoops
[23:55] <Xarizzar> sorry about that


[04:52] <bkerensa> Hi MarkDude
[04:54] <MarkDude> HEy there
[04:54] <MarkDude> Looks like a change of plans
[04:54]  * MarkDude was given advice
[04:55] <MarkDude> advice being decisions were made in private relating to PNW team
[04:55] <MarkDude> This falls under CoC
[04:55] <MarkDude> The Council was surely mistaken
[04:56] <MarkDude> I mean if they are trying to say that NO ONE over two years was able to get presence and CDs ot rep UBuntu at OSCON
[04:56] <MarkDude> that would be surely shortsighted
[04:56] <MarkDude> Well I stepped up for that
[04:56] <MarkDude> Had otheres help
[04:57] <MarkDude> Did so as Oregonian
[04:57]  * MarkDude was NOT member of Cali team
[04:57] <MarkDude> So let me know what channel-
[04:57] <MarkDude> is it the secret channel- or a logged one?
[05:00] <bkerensa> Hmm?
[05:00] <bkerensa> Idk
[05:00] <bkerensa> Its not worth battling over honestly we will just re-apply in 6-8 months like they said
[05:00] <bkerensa> http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/07/31/usa-wide-approved-locos-by-the-end-of-the-year-lets-do-it/
[05:00] <bkerensa> thats a interesting post
[05:01] <bkerensa> that was in 2007 they wanted all locos approved in the U.S. by end of year
[05:01] <bkerensa> but its now years later and somehow not enough history?
[05:02] <MarkDude> Well, I know I dont represnt the team
[05:03] <MarkDude> But I plan to write about this all
[05:03] <MarkDude> Ubuntu was soo busy trying to get on TVs, they could not figure out how to get Ubuntu folks a table at OSCON
[05:04] <MarkDude> Oregon Team got them there
[05:04] <MarkDude> after they had killed PNW
[05:04] <bkerensa> ok well as Team Lead and per Discussion with Nathwill who is Asst. Team Lead we just feel the best thing we can do is give it our all and try again down the road. They asked if we would continue if denied and we told them yes because in the end we dont exist as a loco essentially for peer approval... We exist because we love FOSS and Ubuntu
[05:04] <MarkDude> Dont get me wrong I dont plan on bringing a pissing contest ;)
[05:05] <bkerensa> I told two of the loco council members in private however that I was deeply disappointed by their decision and I pointed out other approvals they have made for teams that may have done less and had limited history and they agreed and said the process needs improvement
[05:05] <MarkDude> Or as I said a while ago
[05:05] <MarkDude> the emperor wears no clothes
[05:05] <bkerensa> I think a blog post on loco approval transparency and clear standards for all loco's might be of interest
[05:05] <bkerensa> :D
[05:05] <MarkDude> And thats not meaning Mark S either
[05:05] <bkerensa> The emperor must get cold
[05:06] <bkerensa> oh I know :)
[05:06] <MarkDude> The process wears no clothes
[05:06] <bkerensa> the community has many emperors :P
[05:06] <MarkDude> The CoC is TP
[05:06] <MarkDude> People assume if its not in there it means free anything
[05:06] <MarkDude> Arbitrary
[05:07] <MarkDude> Its so arbitrary
[05:07] <MarkDude> I am going to put some of this in TOSW book
[05:07] <MarkDude> But remove the Ubuntu name
[05:07] <MarkDude> to protect the innocent, etc
[05:07] <MarkDude> There are a few lessons to be learned here.
[05:08] <MarkDude> But if you guys are ok with being patient and waiting more time than you deserve, I can only honor your wishes
[05:10]  * MarkDude is considering getting F tattoo btw
[05:17] <TRAVISg> hello all
[05:21] <MarkDude> Hey there TRAVISg
[05:24] <bkerensa> hi
[23:19] <TRAVISg> bkerensa you think you could kick down some ubuntu stickers for my laptop? I would love to be promoting it.
[23:20] <TRAVISg> I guess that is really just to any one I need some stickers I wear my 11.10 shirt as much as I can but would love more conversation starters
[23:20] <TRAVISg> I have the official Ubuntu book on hold at the Library too. I am plugging away.
[23:27] <bkerensa> Good Afternoon Oregonians
[23:27] <bkerensa> TRAVISg: Let me check if I have any tomorrow.... I'm actually possibly moving next week so I will be looking through everything :P
[23:28] <bkerensa> If I don't have any I will buy some more and give you a sheet
[23:29] <albrigha> hi hi
[23:34] <bkerensa> hi


[11:41] <daftykins> heh glad i subcontracted sorting out the domain payment to the client, he gets to sit on the phone several times now and coax them to resolve things
[11:42] <zxmpi> your call is important to us... please hold... there are.... 1272... ahead of you... *MUZAK*
[11:42] <daftykins> i can only imagine he was rude to them, 'cause when i tried i was awaiting a call transfer and then got cut off :D
[11:43] <zxmpi> i've seen a few where if you've been on hold 15 minutes they just drop the call
[11:43] <daftykins> hehe that's cheeky, i don't think i got that far
[11:43] <zxmpi> *BZZZZZT* companies on my kill list?
[11:44] <zxmpi> well it's /kinda/ smart. only a % of those will ring back immediately and rejoin the queue. bloody annoying for the users mind
[11:48] <daftykins> yeah got to thin the herd somehow
[11:49] <daftykins> they're based in Carlow, Blacknight - do enjoy hearing a true Irish accent occasionally when i've had to speak to them :D
[11:49] <zxmpi> i think a few of the lads hang out in irish irc. it's the xkcd shiboleet of support :-P
[11:50] <daftykins> :D
[11:50] <zxmpi> still one of my favourite xkcd https://xkcd.com/806/
[11:52] <daftykins> :)
[11:53] <daftykins> when the client said he'd been typing his Microsoft MFA token into the domain registrar page i had a great WTF moment
[11:53] <daftykins> gave him a good lecture about that
[11:54] <zxmpi> should put his mothers maiden name and dogs name there too :-P
[11:59] <daftykins> heh yeah just all of it
[11:59] <daftykins> he tried to downplay it as "well it's only relevant for a limited time!"
[11:59] <daftykins> yeah, but knowing that it's UNIQUE to one service is pretty key to life D:
[16:38] <davef> Wooh! Gonna hit them there double digits on the sunshine factor today.
[16:41] <daftykins> :O
[16:42] <davef> And it's gonna be above zero all week. Hopefully winter is finally over.
[16:43] <daftykins> just don't let it hear you say that! :D
[16:44] <davef> And today the move became real, as I booked the movers and bought a new driver/drill w/bits to take stuff apart and put back together again.
[16:44] <daftykins> \o/
[16:44] <davef> I move June 2nd
[17:38] <davef> Oh my dear lord.
[17:39] <davef> I found Cathedral City cheddar cheese at my local grocery store!
[17:39] <daftykins> ooh :D
[17:39] <davef> REAL CHEESE AT LAST!
[17:39] <davef> Not the crap they usually sell here
[17:41] <daftykins> surely such a large country has at least made a decent stab at cheese?
[17:42] <davef> some of them are good
[17:42] <davef> but nothing can beats the proper british tang on cheddar cheese from Britain
[17:42] <daftykins> others left you cheesed off?
[17:42]  * daftykins ducks
[17:42] <davef> daftykins: keeps churning out the jokes
[17:44]  * daftykins claps gently
[17:52] <davef> Sorry, had to milk that one.
[17:52] <daftykins> :D
[17:58] <davef> I have udder jokes


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[02:18] <slimjimflim> hello
[02:20] <slimjimflim> anybody know of any good sdio wifi adapter
[02:20] <slimjimflim> esp one w/ high gain, low power and/or packet injection
[13:11] <andre_> where can i download this?
[13:12] <andre_> or how i mean :)
[13:27] <emgent> heya
[13:29] <andre_> hey
[15:02] <montamer> what is ubuntu-mobile?
[15:02] <montamer> is there any product using it
[15:02] <montamer> ?
[18:05] <Zic> Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Ubuntu Mobile Edition are the same thing or not ?
[18:05] <Zic> (hi)
[18:28] <davidm> Zic, they are different, the  Ubuntu Netbook Remix is for Netbooks and currently the Ubuntu Mobile Edition is for hand held MID (Mobile Internet Devices) kind of palm sized things.
[18:28] <Zic> davidm: thanks for your answer, I had just ask sabdfl about it :)
[18:30] <Zic> « the netbook remix is a special edition we are making for some OEM customers, it uses the standard 8.04 packages but is tailored for netbook form factors »
[18:30] <davidm> Netbooks are sub-notebook kind of things.
[18:30] <Zic> (quote from sabdfl)
[18:32] <Zic> (we are planning a meeting about free/open embedded platform for an Hardy Party in France, I needed a clearly information about "netbook remix" for this conference, so I direcly ask sabdfl about his interview where he speaks about "netbook remix")