[00:06] <Spion> Why would the add/remove programs menu be grayed-out (disabled)?
[00:21] <Y_Less`> Hi, I have a very odd problem.  I'm running 8.04 beta on an HP Pavilion dv6000.  I've installed a few libraries to get things like wireless support installed and working, as well as quite a few bits for games but for some reason my hard disk seems to periodically just flood itself.  I'll get a message saying that the HD is less than 4% free, but I know there is a aroung 38gb free.  I tracked the data down to a folder in
[00:21] <Y_Less`> home->.strigi.  Deleting it doesn't seem to adversely affect the system but after a while the messages start coming back and just now my entire hard disk was full for no apparent reason.
[00:21] <NickPresta> Support for Hardy in #ubuntu+1
[00:21] <Y_Less`> Does anyone know what's going on?
[00:21] <Y_Less`> ahh, cheers
[00:50] <soldier> #opensuse.ru
[01:10] <ubuntu> I need help with a new kubuntu 7.10 install.  It installed fine, but the update crashed and left the system unbootable, after grub selects the kernel there is a "File not found" error, I rebooted into the install disk and mounted and chrooted into the install, but I have no idea what to do next
[01:35] <boa__> ..
[01:35] <boa__> hello
[01:35] <Odd-rationale> hi, boa__
[01:36] <boa__> what's up Odd¿
[01:36] <Odd-rationale> boa__: not much...
[01:36] <Odd-rationale> you?
[01:37] <boa__> me too man
[01:38] <boa__> yow Odd you speak french¿
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> boa__: no I don't. but you can go to #ubuntu-fr
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> !fr
[01:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:39] <boa__> ;P i know it's just a question
[01:40] <Odd-rationale> boa__: oh, ok. I was just trying to help out. :|
[01:40] <boa__> thanks man :)
[01:41] <sloth> how can i save cmds for easy reference in konsole?
[01:41] <Odd-rationale> sloth: what do you mean?
[01:42] <sloth> i type a cmd in konsole
[01:42] <sloth> is there a way to save if for future use?
[01:42] <sloth> save it
[01:42] <sloth> like a bookmark
[01:43] <boa__> yow Odd if i have a problem with the synaptic update ,can i update my gusty to the 8?
[01:43] <Odd-rationale> sloth: well it is saved in you bash history. so you can use the up arrow key to scroll through recently used cmds
[01:43] <Dr_willis> sloth,  make an script/bin directory and save your common commands to little scripts. if needed
[01:43] <Dr_willis> or setup alias's in your .bashrc or other files.
[01:43] <Odd-rationale> boa__: synaptic? are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[01:43] <sloth> um, over my head?
[01:43] <boa__> kubuntu
[01:43] <Dr_willis> sloth,  then its time to read some bash begeinner guides
[01:44] <Odd-rationale> sloth: what command would you like to save?
[01:44] <sloth> link?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> !bash
[01:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:44] <Dr_willis> !cli
[01:44] <Dr_willis> thers also 10000's of bash guides out on the web.
[01:44] <Odd-rationale> sloth: Also, i reccomend www.linuxcommand.org
[01:44] <sloth> trying to save this: find / -type f -size +20000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $8 ": " $5 }'
[01:45] <Odd-rationale> sloth: ok. then open your ~/.bashrc file and we'll just put an alias for that.
[01:45] <Dr_willis> echo ' find / -type f -size +20000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $8 ": " $5 }' ' > bigcommand     :) then chmod +x bigcommand
[01:45] <Dr_willis> is another way
[01:46] <sloth> .bashrc file?
[01:46] <Odd-rationale> boa__: shouldn't you be using adept instead of synaptic?
[01:46] <Odd-rationale> sloth: do "kate ~/.bashrc"
[01:46] <Dr_willis> sloth,  the .bashrc file gets ran at the start of every new shell. it has settings and aliass in it. YOu can set an alias for that command in there easially.
[01:46] <sloth> ah
[01:46] <Dr_willis> OR you could make a little shellscript for that command. (which is what my example did)
[01:47] <sloth> shellscript?
[01:47] <Dr_willis> yes a shell script.. Bash Basics..
[01:47] <sloth> maybe i should read on it first
[01:47] <sloth> then bother you two
[01:47] <sloth> ^^
[01:48] <Dr_willis> my command made a file called 'bigcommand' - You can then chmod +x bigcommand, then run that command with ./bigcommand
[01:48] <Odd-rationale> Dr_willis: would you have to prepend that with #!/bin/bash ? or no?
[01:48] <Dr_willis> sloth,  yep. this is all rather  straight forward
[01:48] <Dr_willis> Odd-rationale,  not really :) but its better practice
[01:48] <Dr_willis> sloth,  if you are going to have a lot of custom commands and scripts make a 'bin' dir and keep them in there
[01:48] <Dr_willis> Thats common practice to keep them there.
[01:48] <Odd-rationale> I think an alias would be a better idea...
[01:49] <Odd-rationale> for one 1 loc
[01:49] <Dr_willis> I perfer the bin/scripe method. because its easier for me to backup/move my bin dir to other machines/disrtos/users  :)
[01:49] <sloth> on a seperate topic...why is that when i do a virus scan, a lot of the files show up as access denied (using klamav)
[01:49] <Dr_willis> plus i have 200+ scripts in bin anyway
[01:49] <boa__> by the way odd how can i solve a problem with the repositories ,i have to save my source.list or add anothers repositories
[01:49] <Dr_willis> sloth,  because as a USER you cant acc4ess them.,
[01:50] <sloth> oh
[01:50] <Odd-rationale> I create a .bash_aliases file which I can back up :)
[01:50] <Dr_willis> sloth,  klamv is scanning for WINDOWS viruses anyway :) most of the time.
[01:50] <sloth> and what does empty files mean?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> empty files?
[01:50] <sloth> yea
[01:50] <Odd-rationale> boa__: what are you trying to do?
[01:50] <sloth> klamav says empty file
[01:51] <Dr_willis> i guess it depends on what ifle it says is empty. :)
[01:51] <Dr_willis> I rarely use klamv, no real need for it.
[01:51] <sloth> a LOT were empty
[01:51] <Dr_willis> files with zero size i guess..
[01:51] <sloth> /usr/share/java/xalan2.jar
[01:51] <sloth> for example
[01:51] <Dr_willis> No idea why that would be a security issue.
[01:52] <sloth> what about zip.exceededfileslimit
[01:52] <Dr_willis> !virus
[01:52] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[01:52] <Odd-rationale> boa__: are you trying to add a repo?
[01:52] <boa__> update but i can't because it can't access to some repositories
[01:52] <Dr_willis> !info    clamav-docs
[01:52] <ubotu> clamav-docs (source: clamav): documentation package for clamav, an anti-virus utility for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 992 kB, installed size 1420 kB
[01:53] <Odd-rationale> boa__: you're trying to do "sudo apt-get update" but some repos are timing out?
[01:53] <Dr_willis> install/read the docs for clamav i guess. :)
[01:53] <boa__> yes
[01:53] <sloth> thanks
[01:53] <Dr_willis> unless you want to scan your windows system. You proberly dont need to worry about klamav
[01:53] <Odd-rationale> boa__: i guess the only thing you can do is try changing you mirror.
[01:54] <sloth> windows system?
[01:54] <sloth> just using gutsy here
[01:54] <boa__> link?
[01:55] <Fritzel> ok this is probably something simple but does anyone know why I would get this message when attempting to compile a plasmoid in KDE4? http://pastebin.com/d1595a17b (question already posed in #ubuntu+1)
[01:56] <Odd-rationale> boa__: open adept and go to adept --> manage repositories. then select a different mirror from the drop down menu
[01:58] <boa__> well i can't install adept odd because it can access to his url
[02:03] <boa__> sorry odd i want to say  the manager propreties option is unvailable i cant access
[02:04] <szakulec> I just tried to load the new york mets webpage, and  after forcing it to stop re-loading, it finally crashed when I went to the Fans tab
[02:05] <jast-mxm> would anyone like to help me resolve an issue w/ ssh tunneling?
[02:09] <Stoffer> does kubutnu.org have an rss feed for their announcements?  I'm tired of looking every day to see if the new version came out
[02:09] <szakulec> they do
[02:09] <Stoffer> nevermind, i'm an idiot and just found the link
[02:09] <Stoffer> thanks
[02:16] <kissofavampire> anybody out there who can tell me where i can turn off these crappy tooltips?
[02:16] <kissofavampire> sry 4 my bad english ;)
[02:17] <Dr_willis> what tooltips
[02:17] <genii> Dr_willis: I imagine he means the context popups when you hover on something
[02:17] <kissofavampire> when my mouse cursor touches the "k" menu there is an animated tooltip
[02:18] <Dr_willis> thats disabeable somewhere. :) i forget where..
[02:18] <kissofavampire> Dr_willis: same here but i installed kubuntu new a few minutes ago...
[02:20] <genii> kissofavampire: System Settings...Appearance...Style... uncheck "Enable Tooltips"
[02:21] <kissofavampire> this doesn't work 4 me...do i have to restart x system?
[02:21] <genii> no
[02:22] <genii> kissofavampire: After changing it there make sure to hit Apply button in bottom right corner
[02:22] <kissofavampire> i've clicked the aply button...
[02:22] <kissofavampire> +p
[02:23] <kissofavampire> i also thought it was there but these tooltips are still present
[02:23] <genii> kissofavampire:  Should take effect immediately. If not then perhaps a restart of X is needed. I leave them on normally so do not know offhand
[02:24] <kissofavampire> thx a lot i'll try to restart
[02:32] <hakxis> como entro al kubundo en español?
[02:32] <NickPresta> !es | hakxis
[02:32] <ubotu> hakxis: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:33] <EnsGabe> Has anyone had trouble using Gnash with konqueror?
[02:34] <Daisuke-Laptop> omit "with konqueror" and the answer is "yes, yes we have"
[02:34] <genii> Daisuke-Laptop: Heh smartass
[02:35] <Daisuke-Laptop> gnash isn't going to cut it if you need to do anything that requires a version of flash released even remotely recently
[02:35] <Daisuke-Laptop> genii: thank you :)
[02:36] <EnsGabe> Thanks, Daisuke-Laptop, but 90% of what I use it for is covered by the mozilla-plugin-gnash package.  So keep it to yourself
[02:36] <EnsGabe> Specifically, the plugin doesn't even show up in the plugin dialog box after I scan for new plugins
[02:37] <Daisuke-Laptop> EnsGabe: a bit bitter, are we?
[02:38] <EnsGabe> Daisuke-Laptop: best example of projection all day
[02:38] <Daisuke-Laptop> and mozilla-plugin-gnash probably won't help with konqueror
[02:38] <EnsGabe> rather, the konq-plug-gnash plugin doesn't show up-- the mozilla-plugin-gnash plugin shows up and every page with flash elements SIGSEGV's
[02:38] <Daisuke-Laptop> ah
[02:38] <Daisuke-Laptop> i'm not bitter, i'm disappointed
[02:39] <EnsGabe> Daisuke-Laptop: fair enough.  It's one of the few things these days that's labelled and shows it
[02:43] <Daisuke-Laptop> i haven't run into the problem, and i'm seeing nothing anywhere i'm looking, except for some relaly old bugs that were fixed before feisty came out...
[02:44] <EnsGabe> '/usr/lib/kde3/libklashpart.so' is the actually plugin, right?
[02:44] <Xcerca> any body know of a good thread or tutorial on installing 8.04 on a usb stick ? i'm trying to just put the live cd/iso on the usb stick so that i can boot off that
[02:47] <crazy_bus> I would like to download some mit world videos, but the only link I can find is to a itunes u mit world site. Is there any way to access files contained in itunes u without installing itunes under wine?
[02:47] <genii> Xcerca:  The pendrivelinux website has much info on the subject
[02:48] <genii> Xcerca:  The method used for 7.10 can easily be adapted
[02:48] <Xcerca> thanks, i'll check it out
[02:54] <_ZeuZ_> how can I install a Winmodem into Kubuntu?
[02:54] <_ZeuZ_> More specifically
[02:55] <_ZeuZ_> HDAUDIO Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP >>> That
[02:55] <_ZeuZ_> Besides buying the HSF driver, of course
[02:55] <genii> _ZeuZ_: What does lspci spefically report for the modem device?
[02:55] <Jucato> !winmodem
[02:55] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:55] <genii> *specifically
[02:56] <genii> Jucato: I've compiled the Conexant HSF drivers by hand, I may be able to assist (possibly)
[02:57] <_ZeuZ_> genii: dunno, I have to use Windows to browse...
[02:57] <Jucato> kool
[02:57] <snake_> дайте irc русской тех.поддержки
[02:57] <Jucato> genii: may you be possible to give me some coffee? :P
[02:57] <_ZeuZ_> hsf by hand? how did you manage to get the source if it's paid?
[02:57] <Jucato> !ru | snake_
[02:57] <ubotu> snake_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[02:57] <genii> _ZeuZ_: Before the linmodem people got ahold of it, the earlier source code was available.
[02:58] <_ZeuZ_> genii, is it still avaible somewhere?
[02:58] <genii> _ZeuZ_: First we need to discover if it is a modem which has vendor codes that would make trying to compile the full-speed driver worthwhile
[02:59]  * genii makes Jucato an extra-large Kubuntu mug of coffee
[02:59] <_ZeuZ_> It does for me...
[03:00] <_ZeuZ_> but, let me check... by the way, I need a link to a hardy package for scanmodem so I can dowload it from Windows, then mount the partition, copy the package and dependencies, and dpkg -i them
[03:00] <genii> _ZeuZ_: Even when manually compiled, it doesn't work for all of them, especially a lot of the newer ones. And it was originaly specifically for the Conexant line
[03:00] <_ZeuZ_> (hardy 64bits)
[03:00] <_ZeuZ_> !repositories hardy
[03:01] <genii> _ZeuZ_: I'll see if I can rediscover the web sites i worked from originally.
[03:02] <_ZeuZ_> Cool, either way, first I would need a link to a hardy version of scanmodem for a 64bits plataform, any idea where can I get that? packages.kubuntu.org is something I guess doesnt exist...
[03:02] <genii> _ZeuZ_: Hangon, is this a Dell box? Because they actually supply a deb file
[03:03] <genii> (you will be in luck if it is)
[03:03] <_ZeuZ_> Just found that also, it's HP here, but perhaps it could work...
[03:04] <genii> _ZeuZ_: The HSF dell driver is supposed to be for 7.04 but i know for fact it works on 7.10, I've done it. 8.04 tho dunno
[03:05] <_ZeuZ_> Installing wont get me to a Kernel Panic so I dunno if it will be that disastrous
[03:05] <genii> But also is 32 bit which cold be an issue
[03:05] <genii> *could
[03:06] <_ZeuZ_> Hmmm... I'll get it pirated... (HSF full driver)
[03:07] <_ZeuZ_> but first, I need to get scanmodem (taking in count I'm in Windows Right now, and I've got to download it here and then copy it and dpkg -i it)
[03:07] <_ZeuZ_> any idea the URL of the repos_
[03:07] <genii> _ZeuZ_: Well, you could always just pay the $20 to linuxant and be done with it also
[03:07] <_ZeuZ_> 20 dollars equals 90 pesos with what you eat 2 weaks...
[03:08] <genii> _ZeuZ_: scanmodem is not a program which is in the repos. I't specific to the linmodem website
[03:08] <genii> *It's
[03:09] <Elazar> Anyone have any experience getting vga-out working on integrated Intel 965 chipset VGA controllers?
[03:10] <Elazar> All solutions I've tried thus far just end up with X failing to boot because it stops being able to adjust the resolution on the primary display.
[03:11] <Elazar> xrandr can see a connection on the vga-out port when I plug an adapter in, so I know that's working. Just not sure how to proceed trying to get a clone display running.
[03:13] <genii> _ZeuZ_: At any rate, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/linmodems/index.html#scanModem
[03:13] <_ZeuZ_> downloading it allready
[03:13] <_ZeuZ_> aint if easier to do lspci -vvv | grep Modem ?
[03:14] <_ZeuZ_> !hardy traceroute
[03:14] <genii> _ZeuZ_: The scanmodem tool will give *detailed* information specifically about the winmodem
[03:15] <_ZeuZ_> once again, wouldn't lspci do that? or does this also test the commands sent to the modem?
[03:15] <genii> _ZeuZ_: When looking for a package for a specific dist, the syntax of the bot factoid is: !info packagename distname        eg: !info traceroute hardy               although not sure if it's databbase yet incldes 8.04
[03:16] <genii> _ZeuZ_: It intensively interrogates all the commands the thing accepts plus many other things
[03:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i would just like to say: dell's site has the full driver you need.
[03:16] <_ZeuZ_> !info traceroute hardy
[03:16] <ubotu> traceroute (source: traceroute): Traces the route taken by packets over an IPv4/IPv6 network. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.9-3 (hardy), package size 46 kB, installed size 172 kB
[03:17] <_ZeuZ_> Daisuke-IDO: For i386
[03:17] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: It's 32 bit only there.
[03:17] <_ZeuZ_> not for 64bits kernel
[03:17] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, x64?
[03:17] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[03:17] <Daisuke_Ido> i have to say, i am extremely upset that anyone would charge money for a driver
[03:17] <genii> Hopefully they'll get enough pressure to release a 64 bit soon
[03:17] <Daisuke_Ido> you already paid for the hardware in some way or another...
[03:17] <_ZeuZ_> genii: I would like the bot to handle me a URL to download the package, as I cant use the modem yet in linux
[03:18] <Elazar> No one? :(
[03:18] <genii> Elazar: Perhaps ask in #xorg
[03:22] <genii> _ZeuZ_: It will only tell you which repository. Use some web browser for instance to go to somewhere like http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/traceroute/       and select the deb for your system
[03:23] <tomahasamoot> when switching VTs, sometimes my loggin crashes and dumps back into kdm
[03:23] <tomahasamoot> there is a delay of a couple seconds after switching, then it spontainously switches back... and the loggin is gone
[03:23] <tomahasamoot> this is between VT7 and VT9, using the ctrl+alt+fx hotkey
[03:23] <tomahasamoot> I'm on kubuntu 8.04 amd64 with an nVidia 8600 (using the "real" driver)  I had the same problem on 7.10, but less less frequently
[03:25] <yao_ziyua1> anyone used both kubuntu and fedora/kde?
[03:25] <yao_ziyua1> please talk about the difference
[03:25] <yao_ziyua1> fedora uses bleeding edge packages
[03:26] <linuxlover> hi room.........i am anindya from india.... problem : simple LAN with my 2 desktop pcs.... please help
[03:34] <linuxlover> i have two machines one with two network interfaces and the another with a sole network interface. i am trying to connect these two machines with a simple LAN for sharing internet. the machine which has two network interfaces, presently installed with kubuntu and directly connected with internet. These interfaces are eth0 and eth1. eth1 is connected with the internet. As soon as I am changing the IP address of this eth0, it is always changing to
[03:34] <linuxlover> <IP_ADDRESS> as soon as I restart the machine. Why this is going so? How do I configure my interface cards?
[03:34] <genii> linuxlover: Some questions to clarify: Is there a router or such that assigns IP to the computers there? What OS are both boxes running. If no switch/hub/router do you have a crossover cable?
[03:35] <genii> 169.254.X.X  is an ip which the computer auto assigns itself when no number is being given to it from outside
[03:39] <linuxlover> genil: I am connected with a crossover cable. The machine which is connected with two network cards in installed with Kubuntu and the other machine is installed with Windows
[03:39] <genii> linuxlover: There is a simple howto here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html   but the user there is running commands like apt-get as root. Instead put sudo before what they have there.
[03:41] <genii> linuxlover: Also where they have echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward     put instead echo 1 > sudo tee -a /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[03:42] <genii> And for gedit <whatever>      do alt-f2 then: kdesu kate <whatever>
[03:42] <linuxlover> i am listening to you genil
[03:44] <genii> linuxlover: The name is genii and not genil :) You will be fine if you do the commands listed there on the linux machine with two interfaces. The client machine operating system does not matter in this case. But of course alter the instructions there as I have just outlined above.
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> by which way can i enjoy current releases of packages (e.g. pidgin 2.4.1 instead of 2.2.1) in ubuntu?
[03:47] <linuxlover> I am very sorry genii....... it is my eyes which made the problem.... anyway it is my mistake, i am really sorry, please don't mind friend
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> oi.  love how he sticks around for an answer.
[03:48] <genii> linuxlover: No worries :)
[03:49] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: Especially as I actually went to trouble of answering him in #ubuntu
[03:49] <Daisuke_Ido> that guy...  *makes a strangling motion*
[03:49] <genii> eg: yao_ziyuan: To make ubuntu use the lates deb versions available in it's repositories, create a file called apt.conf in directory /etc/apt and have it contain the line of:   APT::Default-Release "experimental";                     For more recent versions see if getdeb website contains them, or else compile from source.
[03:49] <linuxlover> Thank you genii
[03:49] <Boohbah> strangling users is not good policy
[03:51] <genii> Boohbah: Well, it would be therapeutic for us however ;)
[03:51] <NickPresta> It would also solve the problem of helping users :)
[03:51] <neville_> This is going to sound a bit strange, but how can I mount a PSX disk?
[03:52] <jtisme> neville_, what is a PSX disk
[03:52] <NickPresta> jtisme, Play Station 1, maybe?
[03:52] <neville_> Yes
[03:53] <NickPresta> neville_, what happens when you put the disc in?
[03:53] <neville_> The drive churns, then stops, and KDE does nothing
[03:53] <neville_> sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom tells me to specify a filesystem, however
[03:55] <neville_> And I've got no idea what it could be
[03:55] <dthacker> Hi.  I'm trying to start a game that wants a SDL library.  I seem to remember a separate LIBPATH variable that needs to be set. Is that right
[03:56] <dthacker> ?
[03:56]  * genii reads http://www.megagames.com/psx/psx_cd_info.shtml to try and understand how to overcome the purposeful bad-block design on PSX cdroms which are actually just standard iso9660 filesystems
[03:57] <neville_> It's a queer problem genii, the disks would work perfectly in Windows when I used to have it :/
[03:57] <jtisme> neville_,  specify filesystem  or  filesystem type
[03:57] <genii> neville_: Try -t iso9660 for filesystem
[03:58] <neville_> Okay
[03:58] <genii> neville_: eg: sudo mount  -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom                 or so
[03:59] <genii> (assuming /media/cdrom dir exists)
[03:59] <neville_> Worked like a charm =]
[04:00] <genii> neville_: Good :) Be warned of the purposeful bad-block issue if trying to make a copy of it or an iso file.
[04:00]  * dthacker has no LIBPATH set at present
[04:00] <genii> dthacker: Living dangerously?
[04:00] <neville_> Sure, thanks for the warning =]
[04:00] <dthacker> genii: how so?
[04:01] <genii> dthacker: Just trying to be funny, don't mind me
[04:02] <dthacker> I'm just trying to remember the name of this shell variable.   All I can think of is PERL5LIB, because I work with perl all day long.  but there's a another one you can set  that's something like LD5LIBPATH or similar
[04:03] <neville_> Made that command into its own little executable, just to avoid all that typing in future :P
[04:03] <jtisme> dthacker, LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[04:03] <jtisme> ??
[04:03] <dthacker> \o/
[04:04] <dthacker> yes that's it
[04:04] <genii> !helpersnack | jtisme
[04:04] <ubotu> jtisme: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[04:04] <jtisme> thanks
[04:05] <genii> neville_: You coud just make a fstab entry with types of udf and iso9660
[04:05] <neville_> Nah, I'm not game enough to muck with fstab just yet, to be honest
[04:06] <genii> neville_: A line as: /dev/cdrom       /media/cdrom   udf,iso9660 user,auto,exec 0       0                            Would suffice
[04:08] <neville_> Oh man, looks like I owe you one, eh genii? =]
[04:09] <neville_> Next time you need elevator repairmen, I'll do it minus the lecturing :P
[04:09] <genii> neville_: Thanks :)
[04:10] <genii> neville_: To add the line there, simplest is: alt-f2 then: kdesu kate /etc/fstab             and then add it, save
[04:11] <neville_> Yeah, beat you to that bit by a few minutes :P
[04:11] <neville_> It's the actual mucking around in the guts of this stuff I'm not to keen on just yet
[04:40] <genii> Hmm. Quiet.
[04:40] <maduser> yeah
[04:41] <breezy> lol
[04:41] <nitin_> can kppp used to dial from 56k modem
[04:41] <breezy> gay firefox taking your windows username and using it in chatzilla O.o
[04:42] <genii> maduser: So much for the quiet ;)
[04:42] <genii> nitin_: Yes
[04:44] <converge_> Starting a Kubuntu 8.04 installation on my laptop.. after the kubuntu progress bar goes back and forth, I arrive to a blue screen with a mouse where I would usually see an option to select my language..
[04:44] <converge_> but i see no dialog boxes, just a movable mouse.
[04:44] <converge_> any ideas?
[04:46] <cpk1> !8.04
[04:46] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:47] <converge_> yeah i realize this
[04:47] <converge_> thanks anyway
[04:53] <kaman> Hola!
[04:53] <genii> !es | kaman
[04:53] <ubotu> kaman: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:53] <kaman> ok
[04:54] <maduser> Hola que es tu problema?
[05:00] <richard> hola hola
[05:00] <maduser> hola
[05:00]  * genii resorts to babblefish
[05:00] <maduser> screw dat I know esapanol
[05:00] <richard> estoy probando este chat
[05:00] <genii> kaman: Preguntas aquí se hacen normalmente en la lengua inglesa. Sin embargo puesto que no está ocupado aquí quizás el maduser puede asistir a su lengua materna si no hay ayuda en # ubuntu-ubuntu-es o # kubuntu-kubuntu-es.
[05:01] <maduser> genii you know the spanish channel is no help
[05:01] <genii> I think I'm outnumbered ;)
[05:01] <maduser> there are like 10 people there
[05:01] <genii> maduser: Are you there?
[05:01] <maduser> hola richard que es tu problema?
[05:03] <richard> estoy tratando de configurar esta maquina no puedo ver ni los videos
[05:04] <SitUbuntuSit> !spanish | richard
[05:04] <ubotu> richard: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:08] <Mr_Sonoma> !fix apt
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <genii> !aptfix
[05:08] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[05:08] <Mr_Sonoma> grrr.....
[05:08] <Mr_Sonoma> thanks
[05:08] <Mr_Sonoma> lol
[05:09] <genii> np
[05:20] <rootlinuxusr> Anybody have problems with laptop's and sound cards holding onto the sound source after the program is closed?
[05:58] <BlackAura> okay.....so I've got Gutsy AMD64 working great on my system.....except unfortunately my sound card isn't working properly.  It's an Audigy, and is detected, and shows up find in aplay -l.  I've already checked the Switches tab in KMix and the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack setting is off
[05:59] <BlackAura> which is apparently the common problem....at least from what I've been reading
[05:59] <rootlinuxusr> what system do you have, or is it a custom?
[05:59] <rootlinuxusr> had the same issue with my dell inspiron
[05:59] <BlackAura> custom build.....ASUS-A8N Sli mobo, onboard sound turned off.
[06:00] <rootlinuxusr> nice setup. umm
[06:00] <rootlinuxusr> what's the sound card make/model?
[06:00] <BlackAura> cat /proc/asound/cards is showing two though oddly enough....the Audigy as card 0, and a UART MPU-401 as the second card, which I'm guessing is a MIDI controller?
[06:00] <BlackAura> Audigy 1 [SB0090] (rev.3, serial:0x531102)
[06:01] <rootlinuxusr> or perhaps the onboard
[06:01] <BlackAura> It's an OEM Creative Soundblaster Audigy....which I know I've gotten working in the past in LFS and Gentoo
[06:01] <BlackAura> I belive I just used the emu10k ALSA drivers
[06:02] <BlackAura> if I open up VLC, and view the preferences, and check the output devices....the Audigy is listed after I refresh the devices
[06:04] <BlackAura> oh, apparenlty the onboard sound is another Realtek AC '97 chipset, the usual onboard one from what I've seen :s
[06:11] <BlackAura> brb
[06:26] <BlackAura> Okay.....so the audigy is detected, but still can't get sound out of it :s
[06:27] <BlackAura> :s     ignore that last remark, seems to be okay now
[06:32] <calcmandan> Fresh install of 7.10 gutsy yesterday.  Sound was working fine.  I just tried to play some music and it 'plays' but nothing is coming out of the speakers.  Yes, they're plugged into the computer.  I see no indication that there are sound issues.
[06:33] <neville_> Is there any other program open that could be tying up the sound?
[06:33] <calcmandan> i can't think of anything.
[06:33] <SlicerDicer> kill arts
[06:34] <calcmandan> SlicerDicer: killed arts, still nothing.
[06:35] <SlicerDicer> usb sound device defaulting to somehow?
[06:35] <SlicerDicer> program like skype eating sound device?
[06:35] <SlicerDicer> worst case restart X
[06:35] <calcmandan> SlicerDicer: i don't have skype installed... yet.
[06:35] <SlicerDicer> should clear it up
[06:35] <SlicerDicer> should...
[06:35] <calcmandan> okay, once i'mdone copying this dvd, i'll restart x.
[06:35] <calcmandan> thanks.
[06:35] <calcmandan> i'll be back if it doesn't work.
[06:37] <calcmandan> would it help if i pastebin'd my system log?
[06:37] <SlicerDicer> did it not work?
[06:37] <SlicerDicer> what kinda sound device you got?
[06:37] <calcmandan> still burning the dvd.
[06:37] <SlicerDicer> ahh
[06:38] <calcmandan> i'm going to let it finish.
[06:38] <calcmandan> dual layers are still expensive. :)
[06:38] <calcmandan> i have an onboard via chipset.
[06:38] <calcmandan> plugged my speakers into that
[06:38] <SlicerDicer> ahh ok
[06:40] <calcmandan> hmm.  i was playing metal blob solid earlier.  there was sound then,
[06:41] <m85> .
[06:41] <SlicerDicer> lol
[06:41] <SlicerDicer> nice .
[08:07] <jerware> this linux shit just fucked me outa my time.
[08:07] <jussi01> !ohmy | jerware
[08:07] <ubotu> jerware: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:07] <jerware> i spent all this time organizing my firefox book marks.  then it rolls back prior to my changes.  why.
[08:07] <Daisuke_Ido> 1) that's firefox's problem, not linux's - blame where blame's due
[08:08] <Daisuke_Ido> 2) i had that happen to me as well, make sure it's not set to automatically alphabetize bookmarks, it's a pain in the butt.
[08:10] <jerware> view > sort by name
[08:10] <jerware> is the default
[08:10] <jerware> so i click unsorted
[08:10] <jerware> then go back.  and sort by name is still selected.
[08:10] <jerware> thats bull shit
[08:10] <jussi01> jerware: please dont swear in here
[08:10] <stdin> !language > jerware (you have been asked twice)
[08:13] <jerware> then go back.  and sort by name is still selected.
[08:45] <Xcerca> can anybody recomend another audio player for my besides amaroke ?
[08:47] <jussi01> !players
[08:47] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[08:47] <jussi01> Xcerca: hows that?
[08:48] <Xcerca> thx  i', gunna go with juk and mplayer...
[08:48] <jussi01> Xcerca: there is also kmplayer
[08:50] <Xcerca> i'll check out kmplayer first then
[08:50] <jussio1> :)
[09:43] <kom2> z
[09:45] <makdaknife> hello
[09:45] <jussio1> hi
[09:48] <yandy> hi
[09:52] <jussio1> !cn | yandy
[09:52] <ubotu> yandy: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[10:25] <junior> hmmm
[10:26] <junior> any1 alive ?
[10:27] <jpatrick> !hi | junior
[10:27] <ubotu> junior: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:34] <hangmansjoke> hello everyone
[10:35] <hangmansjoke> i am new to kubuntu
[10:36] <SlimeyPete> hi
[10:37] <jpatrick> welcome
[10:38] <yandy> join #kde-devel
[10:42] <yandy> ?
[10:42] <jussi01> yandy: add a /
[10:57] <HeLpEe> i installed windows in f: and then kubuntu in c: . now i cant see windows in grub menu when i boot. when i boot it dont shows me display for first 1 min. (just shows sync, out of range)  then show normal linux booting. whats wrong?
[11:00] <HeLpEe> ?
[11:08] <HeLpEe> i installed windows in f: and then kubuntu in c: . now i cant see windows in grub menu when i boot. when i boot it dont shows me display for first 1 min. (just shows sync, out of range)  then show normal linux booting. whats wrong?
[11:17] <HeLpEe> can linux be installed on a logical partitions whos primary partition is a fat partition?
[11:18] <nitin> yes
[11:19] <SeicherlBoB> hi! I'm running 7.10 on a laptop and just found out, that i have not installed KLaptop but powermanager instead. do i still need KLaptop if power manager is running?
[11:19] <nitin> but for Linux you have to format using ext3 in the logical partition that you want to install
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:28] <litel> Hello, I just try KDE and the resolution is too hight. I don't know where is the monitor manager an someone help me ? (sorry for mi english I'm not english or american)
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> litel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:30] <yandy> Nice
[11:32] <litel> ActionParsnip: Thx you :)
[11:32] <yandy> Excuse me,which shell is default in Kubuntu?
[11:33] <jussi01> bash
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> yandy:   konsole
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> yandy: i'd suggest yakuake though :)
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> yandy: you set a shortcut key and it drops down from the top like the console in quake / counterstrike. press again and it vanishes
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> imho yakuake should be standard instead of konsole
[11:39] <yandy> Thank you
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> yandy: np
[11:39] <user__> hello
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> hi user__
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> !hi | user
[11:39] <ubotu> user: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:40] <user__> hi
[11:41] <user__> i am russian student
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> i am a uk server engineer
[11:41] <user__> i don't know english
[11:41] <Jucato> !ru | user__
[11:41] <ubotu> user__: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[11:45] <yandy> Sorry,I'm not English or American.What's the meaning of np?
[11:45] <Jucato> np = No Problem
[11:45] <Kaevik> no problem
[11:46] <clau30> no problem = No Problem = np
[11:46] <clau30> :D
[11:46] <yandy> TY
[11:47] <yandy> TY=Thank You
[11:48] <Kaevik> imho = In my Honest Opinion (usually not so honest) xd
[11:49] <Jucato> !offtopic
[11:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:49] <Jucato> :D
[11:49] <clau30> Kaevik: imho = in my humble opinion ;)
[11:49]  * clau30 - no more offtopic :)
[11:50] <Jucato> OT = offtopic :D
[11:50] <clau30> hehe
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> idgas ;)
[11:51] <yandy> I think so
[11:52] <yandy> Hao Ren in Chinese
[12:21] <user__> ubuntu rullezz
[12:50] <pc05> asd
[12:51] <lorin> asd
[12:52] <Dr_willis> lsd
[12:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:54] <lorin> XD
[12:55] <clau30> asl pls
[12:55] <clau30> all
[12:55] <clau30> :)
[12:55] <lorin> very well XD
[12:56] <Dr_willis> asl is NOT going to happen.
[12:58] <a_c_m> if i install the most recent release candidate, will it auto update to the release version on release day?
[13:00] <Dr_willis> a_c_m,  yes
[13:00] <Dr_willis> You might want to wait a few days after release to update. :)
[13:01] <Dr_willis> I alwyas update/upgrade the day befr release.. then wait a week to update/upgrade again
[13:01] <a_c_m> Dr_willis: great thanks... but there is no drawbacks to doing thing ?
[13:01] <Dr_willis> a_c_m,  none that i know of.
[13:01] <a_c_m> Dr_willis: perfect (getting a shiny new quad core today/tomorrow)
[13:05] <a_c_m> Dr_willis: one more question, i'm very interested in 4.0 but do use this machine for work, am i best going with the non remix version then installing 4 as an option or the other way around, going with the remix then installing 3 as a backup?
[13:06] <Dr_willis> 4.0?
[13:06] <a_c_m> Dr_willis: sorry taking about the KDE version
[13:07] <Dr_willis> You can easially install both.
[13:07] <Dr_willis> but KDE4 is still very much a work in progress
[13:07] <Dr_willis> I installed the kde4 kubuntu hardy release on this machine, then installed the normal kde
[13:07] <a_c_m> Dr_willis: ok cool, thanks
[13:10] <a_c_m> Dr_willis: ahh ok one last last question ;)  64bit, last time i tried using the 64bit version of ubuntu was 6.10 but was througly put off by not being able to get things like flash to work... is this any better in 8.4 ?
[13:11] <Dr_willis> I never use 64bit  - since i would gain nothing by doing so. even on my 64bit cpus.
[13:12] <a_c_m> Dr_willis: oh? why would you gain nothing? isnt it a bit faster / allows you to access more ram (over 3gb isnt it?)
[13:13] <Dr_willis> its over 4gb of ram.. and the speed gain is most likely not going to be noticeable
[13:15] <a_c_m> humm ok
[13:15] <a_c_m> i might stick with non 64 bit then... for the easy life ;)
[13:18] <Kaevik> 64bit under Vista is a challenge to get stuff working in 64bit (64bit programs, codecs, ecta)
[13:18] <Kaevik> probly the same in kubuntu
[13:18] <Kaevik> I'd imagine more so
[13:18] <Dr_willis> Vista is a challenge to get stuff working
[13:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:19] <Kaevik> I didn't have a problem
[13:19] <Kaevik> drivers, stuff I used on XP all works, just trying to run the 64bit versions.
[13:20] <Kaevik> (not drivers) but like say 64bit MPC
[13:20] <Dr_willis> I lost about 1/2 the functions of my scanner-printer combo - under vista.. yea for vista....
[13:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:20] <a_c_m> hehe
[13:20] <Kaevik> heh
[13:20] <a_c_m> yeah i've not used vista at all yet (kubuntu/xp on the laptop)
[13:20] <Kaevik> thats pretty bad
[13:21] <a_c_m> the new box comes with it pre-installed :S
[13:21] <Kaevik> hey! lets buy an OS and get driver issues like having a free OSS OS xD
[13:24] <Kaevik> the boxes I get belong to the specific hardware I buy (build all my PCs for 7+ years)
[13:59] <cannon> hi, is there an apps to fix my desktop resolution
[13:59] <cannon> the top and bottom are outside the monitor
[14:00] <cannon> you still there? :(
[14:12] <jussi01> !fixres | cannon
[14:12] <ubotu> cannon: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:22] <ubuntu> hi
[14:26] <mahesh>
[14:27] <noaXess> how can i add a print action into konquerrors right click feature?
[14:38] <KennethP> is there any way to keep a specific package to NOT be upgraded using apt-get or adept. (I had to downgrade it to keep it working)
[14:41] <catweazle> KennethP: echo k3b hold|dpkg --set-selections
[14:41] <catweazle> for example
[14:42] <KennethP> catweazle: Thanks a lot - that looks exactly like what I'm looking for... I'll test that
[14:44] <mahesh> hi
[14:45] <mahesh> is there any one working in eclipse pdt?
[14:59] <Stomper> hi all
[15:00] <Stomper> I ve some problems with hibernating and screenlocking...
[15:00] <Stomper> want to build a mediacenter and bring it to hibernate-mode
[15:00] <Stomper> after resuming kubuntu the screen is locket - how do I disable that feature?
[15:02] <Stomper> I checket the option in /etc/default/acpi-support for sreen-locking... but commending it out doesn help
[15:02] <Stomper> no one here?
[15:03] <dcorbin_work> I click on "Version Upgrade" in Adept Updater.  It /appears/ to be hung on "Downloading and verifying the updgrade tool..."  ideas?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[15:05] <Stomper> hi...
[15:05] <Stomper> seems to be a sleeping room here... no answers ^^
[15:07] <cannon> hey all ... can somebody help me fix my screen resolution pls ... like is there an app?
[15:08] <cannon> for some strange reason it's "stretched" so I can't see the top and bottom
[15:10] <BluesKaj> cannon, did you just install kubuntu ?
[15:11] <cannon> well a few days ago ... dropped back into windows to finish some stuff off
[15:11] <cannon> it worked fine the first time
[15:12] <BluesKaj> cannon,  k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/graphics card/configure. Find your card in the list and "apply" , same goes for the monitor, if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again.
[15:13] <cannon> k, thanks for your help m8 :D
[15:13] <BluesKaj> thank me after it works , cannon :)
[15:14] <cannon> :)
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Stomper, what's your question ?
[15:17] <Stomper> hi...
[15:18] <Stomper> ah.. how can i get rid of the password-promt after resum from hibernate?
[15:18] <cannon> back, now my res is really low though :P
[15:19] <Stomper> I tried everything, but nothing worked. I also tried to find the script wich lockes the screen, but didnt find it
[15:21] <BluesKaj> Stomper, sorry I don't know ...I don't hibernate my pc
[15:21] <BluesKaj> what's your res set at , cannon?
[15:22] <cannon> 1200
[15:22] <cannon> i just found out why
[15:22] <Stomper> ok - thx so far
[15:22] <cannon> it put it to generic instead of widescreen
[15:22] <cannon> restarting x again
[15:29] <BluesKaj> cannon, did you check system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/screen size slider , to resize your res?
[15:30] <genii> Stomper: I'm seeing many complaints about the screen lock kicking in after suspend or hibernate (in google results) but none have provided yet any solution.
[15:32] <cannon> res is fixed now :)
[15:32] <cannon> had to pretend it was a Dell as there is no driver for Asus
[15:32] <cannon> lucky guess :P
[15:32] <BluesKaj> lets hope it sticks , cannon
[15:32] <cannon> lol, yup
[15:32] <cannon> wanna help me with something else? :P
[15:33] <cannon> i need to open ports so a friend can ssh to me ... but no matter what I try they just won't open
[15:33] <cannon> can't get peeps to vnc to me either
[15:36] <cannon> !open ports
[15:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open ports - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:36] <cannon> lol
[15:36] <cannon> !openports
[15:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openports - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:36] <jussio1> !firewall
[15:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[15:37] <cannon> lol, i tried updating them and the changes never seamed to take place
[15:37] <BluesKaj> !ssh | cannon
[15:37] <ubotu> cannon: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[15:38] <jussio1> cannon: I assume you have ssh installed on the macine...
[15:38] <cannon> lol, yup :P
[15:39] <cannon> i'll run through that guide again
[15:39] <cannon> both of em
[15:39] <jussio1> cannon: the server?
[15:39] <cannon> i think so
[15:40] <cannon> i have installed: kdessh; openssh-client; openssh-server
[15:40] <BluesKaj> what about just ssh ?
[15:42] <boritek> hello, is it possible to download amarok2 in binary from anywhere?
[15:43] <cannon> LOL, good idea :P
[15:43]  * cannon is a linux nubcake
[15:44] <BluesKaj> cannon, secure shell client and server (metapackage),
[15:44] <BluesKaj> This metapackage is a convenient way to install both the OpenSSH client and the OpenSSH server. It provides nothing in and of itself, so you may remove it if nothing depends on it.
[15:45] <cannon> is there a way to watch what peeps are doing with ssh?
[15:45] <cannon> or monitor
[15:45] <cannon> like logs or something?
[15:48] <Stomper> Hi, Im back... I have another little question
[15:48] <Stomper> how can I hibernate the system with the console?
[15:50] <cannon> there is a new amarok? :O
[15:50] <Pici> Its in development.
[15:50] <cannon> i need help with storage media
[15:51] <cannon> when i load up dolphin and goto Storage Media it stays on "Loading directory..."
[15:55] <BluesKaj> cannon, what are you trying to access in Storage Media ?
[15:55] <cannon> my sata hdd
[15:55] <BluesKaj> ntfs?
[15:55] <cannon> its in fat32 so it can be read by windows and linux
[15:56] <cannon> or so i'm told
[15:58] <BluesKaj> oh, I was advised to use ntfs-3g
[15:58] <BluesKaj> but I'm running a daul boot setup
[15:59] <BluesKaj> err dual
[15:59] <cannon> well at the mo i have linux and windows installed separately ... but I am planning on loading windows through a vm
[15:59] <cannon> there are some things I just cannon rely on linux for yet
[15:59] <cannon> *cannot lol
[16:00] <yao_ziyuan> how do i check how much video memory of mine kubuntu can recognize?
[16:00] <cannon> !mount
[16:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[16:01] <JuJuBee> anybody know where (on linux) the themes for oo are stored?  And can I copy them over to windows to use with oo?
[16:02] <cannon> !diskmounter
[16:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[16:02] <cannon> !fstab
[16:02] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[16:05] <BluesKaj> !kSysGuard | yao_ziyuan
[16:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksysguard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:05] <yao_ziyuan> BluesKaj: thanks
[16:05] <BluesKaj> yao_ziyuan, anyway try it :)
[16:07] <yao_ziyuan> i don't see video memory size in ksysguard
[16:09] <yao_ziyuan> Monitor & Display says my graphics card is "ati" and video memory size is a grayed out "256K"
[16:11] <BluesKaj> yao_ziyuan, lspci | grep VGA
[16:12] <yao_ziyuan> BluesKaj: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)
[16:12] <yao_ziyuan> the actual vram is 64mb
[16:13] <yao_ziyuan> but i think kubuntu underestimates it, so i want to check how kubuntu thinks
[16:16] <BluesKaj> yao_ziyuan, could be the driver ...looks like you're using a generic driver ...have you tried the restricted driver in system settings /advanced  ?
[16:16] <yao_ziyuan> i now found a command from google:
[16:16] <yao_ziyuan> lspci -v
[16:16] <yao_ziyuan> and i see 64M now
[16:17] <yao_ziyuan> "Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]"
[16:17] <yao_ziyuan> BluesKaj: currently i have no restricted drivers installed
[16:17] <jussio1> BluesKaj: that card doesnt need th restricted driver
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan> lspci -v says about my video card:
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan>         Subsystem: Unknown device 1642:3318
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan>         Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan>         Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan>         I/O ports at 9000 [size=256]
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan>         Memory at f9000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
[16:18]  * jussio1 has a 9250
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan>         [virtual] Expansion ROM at f8000000 [disabled] [size=128K]
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[16:18] <emilsedgh> !paste
[16:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan> .
[16:19] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: please dont do that again. use pastebin
[16:19] <yao_ziyuan> somehow i think when the channel has low traffic, a casual multi-line paste is fine...
[16:19] <BluesKaj> yao_ziyuan , jussio1, yes I agree but it may do more like 3D and DRI with the restricted driver , that's been my experience with the Radeons
[16:19] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: I dont agree. please use pastebin.
[16:19] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[16:20] <jussi01> BluesKaj: no, the restricted driver does not cover older radeons.
[16:21] <BluesKaj> perhaps the ATI  8.28.8 driver will help then, http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html
[16:22] <yao_ziyuan> sometimes i see a white-dashed line in the highlight of the K menu
[16:22] <jussi01> BluesKaj: ati dont provide drivers for the older cards, they are covered with full 3d by the radeon open source driver
[16:23] <BluesKaj> jussi01, define "old" :)
[16:23] <jussi01> BluesKaj: mine works perfectly fine with compiz.
[16:24] <yao_ziyuan> i tried letting KDE draw window shadows and do translucent windows
[16:24] <yao_ziyuan> it has a little delay
[16:24] <jussi01> BluesKaj: anything under a 9500
[16:24] <jussi01> !ati | BluesKaj
[16:24] <ubotu> BluesKaj: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:24] <yao_ziyuan> ubuntu's compiz does not delay
[16:26] <jonathan__> yayy finally back on kubuntu
[16:27] <BluesKaj> jussi01, I'm using a X200 onboard , don't need the how to , thx just the same.
[16:28] <jussio1> BluesKaj: no, I gave you the howto link to show which cards need the restricted driver.
[16:28] <jussio1> :)
[16:29] <cannon> lol
[16:30] <cannon> how do I remount my drives?
[16:32] <drif> any good upnp (media sharing) service for (k)ubuntu?
[16:32] <genii> cannon: If they have fstab entries, : mount -o remount -a
[16:33] <BluesKaj> well, if i had known what poor support ATI does for linux I would have bought a different pc , unfortunately however the driver situation with ati stuff is still pretty muddy. Thx for the heads up on the ati drivers, jussio1.:)
[16:33] <jussio1> :)
[16:33] <cannon> is there a gui for mounting?
[16:35] <genii> cannon: System Settings ... Advanced tab ... Disks and Filesystems                           However on occasion (rarely) it will write gibberish into the fstab file, causing grief
[16:35] <cannon> :O
[16:37] <drif> is there ushare available for 7.04?
[16:38] <eagles0513875> !ushare
[16:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ushare - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:40] <eagles0513875> j/w what language is adept programmed in
[16:43] <eagles0513875> !source
[16:43] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[16:43] <eagles0513875> doesnt answer my ?
[16:44] <cannon> ./media/sda4 is that right for a mount point?
[16:44] <SlimeyPete> eagles0513875: if you fetch the source for adept you can look at it to see which language it's written in
[16:44] <SlimeyPete> I'd guess c++ or python
[16:45] <eagles0513875> SlimeyPete: i just need somethign that will give me steps to compile from source
[16:49] <luisj> hello guys good morning i need some help
[16:49] <drif> there's gmediaserver, but no kubuntu equivalent?
[16:50] <cannon> i created the mount point but it won't let me write to it :(
[16:51] <luisj> i need to change the clock and also add a user in my computer but when i go to system settings and try to do changes as an administrator it doesnt work it wont let me do anything
[16:51] <luisj> it does accept my password but nothing else
[16:51] <luisj> can you helpe me please?
[16:52] <luisj> any one please?
[16:52] <cannon> i can't seem to read off it either ... just tried to load an mp3 file and it's not working :(
[16:52] <bobesponja> Hi
[16:53] <dwidmann> luisj: I forgot why it does that, if I ever new, you can use the "date" command in a terminal to set it manually
[16:53] <bobesponja> Alt+F2 doesn't start krunner anymore (KDE3) how can I restart it?
[16:53] <luisj> how?
[16:53] <luisj> i am new in kubuntu what do i have to do?
[16:53] <cannon> whats the chmod code to open up access to a directory?
[16:53] <cannon> 770?
[16:53] <dwidmann> luisj: first open konsole
[16:53] <luisj> ok
[16:53] <luisj> }done
[16:54] <cannon> chmod sda4 770 <<< doesn't work :(
[16:54] <luisj> what else?
[16:54] <dwidmann> luisj: command should look something like "sudo date Apr 10 2008 11:54" I think
[16:55] <cannon> anybody?
[16:55] <dwidmann> cannon: are you in the group?
[16:55] <cannon> what group?
[16:55] <dwidmann> cannon: or the owner?
[16:56] <dwidmann> cannon: the group that owns the file
[16:56] <cannon> am signed in
[16:56] <cannon> i have no idea ... I just tried to mount it
[16:56] <dwidmann> cannon: ls -l /dev/sda4
[16:56] <cannon> it's a FAT32 so it can be read in windows too
[16:56] <dwidmann> cannon: keeping in mind you shouldn't be changing the perms on a /dev entry anyway
[16:56] <Stomper> luisj: just type "sudo kcontrol" and hit enter.... type in your USER Password
[16:56] <cannon> then how else can I read from it or write to it?
[16:57] <dwidmann> luisj: that should set the time, you may need to restart kicker for it to take effect but I don't think so
[16:57] <cannon> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 4 2008-04-10 16:25 /dev/sda4
[16:58] <dwidmann> cannon: you need to set the perms in /etc/fstab, "kdesudo kate /etc/fstab"
[16:58] <cannon> :O
[16:58] <cannon> none of this stuff makes sense to me :(
[16:58] <dwidmann> cannon: it will with time
[16:58] <cannon> yeah, but my meds kinda make it hard for me to be patient! lol
[16:59] <dennister> hey all...need some hardware technician help here...is there a channel for this?
[16:59] <dwidmann> cannon: bah, excuses excuses :P
[16:59] <luisj> hello that last one did really work
[16:59] <luisj> thanks a lot
[16:59] <eagles0513875> dennister: what issues u having
[16:59] <cannon> i wish ... things not working makes me wanna cry at times
[16:59] <dennister> i think i borked the mobo :(
[16:59]  * cannon blames his doctor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:00] <dwidmann> cannon: in /etc/fstab, look for the line for /dev/sda4, in it there will be a lot of other things, but after "defaults" (immediately after, no spaces), put a comma, then "uid=1000,gid=1000"
[17:00] <luisj> expose your problem instead of crying cannon maybe someone will be able to help you
[17:00] <dennister> i think i successfully flashed the mobo's bios (had to), then did the jumper/took out the battery afterwards, like usual, now mobo won't turn on...no power lights to board
[17:00] <dwidmann> dennister: bad you, you shouldn't bork your motherboard, it has feelings too!
[17:01] <cannon> :O luisj ... what the fook?!?!?!?!?!?
[17:01] <cannon> i have been ya noob ... I've been talking about it for ages
[17:01] <eagles0513875> !oftopic
[17:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oftopic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:01] <dwidmann> dennister: wow, that does sound pretty bad ..... tried taking the battery back out and putting it back in just to check?
[17:01] <dennister> dwidmann: yeah, yeah...i know...i think by taking out the battery i just wiped out all the new bios data I put on it, leaving it blank
[17:02] <luisj> whatdo you mean with FOOK??? cannon?
[17:02] <dennister> yep i tried taking it out again, and putting it back...no power lights to board
[17:02] <dennister> is there any way i can recover from this?
[17:02] <eagles0513875> dennister: u on a laptop or desk
[17:03] <dwidmann> dennister: sounds borked to me ... motherboard manufacturer might be able to help you
[17:03] <cannon> nm, just quit being rude and insensitive luisj
[17:03] <luisj> ok
[17:03] <dennister> desktop...it was given to me as a donation
[17:03] <eagles0513875> dennister: if its a desktop it could be one of 3 things is ur power supply working
[17:03] <luisj> ok well see ya guys thanks everyone be happy
[17:03] <luisj> bye
[17:03] <dwidmann> later
[17:03] <eagles0513875> dennister: try and swap it with another one if u tried that then the board is shot
[17:04] <eagles0513875> u could contact the mobo manufacutruer and see if u can rma
[17:04] <dennister> eagles0513875: it was all working before i tried the bios flash
[17:04] <luisj> by the way no one here is being rude, just get to the point and you will get help cannon dont feel offended thats is useless
[17:04] <luisj> see you take care
[17:04] <eagles0513875> dennister: did anythign happen while flashing
[17:04] <dennister> i take it putting in another battery from another pc won't help?
[17:05] <dennister> eagles0513875: no, nothing happened...flashing seemed to work well
[17:05] <dwidmann> dennister: you're welcome to try, I'm sure you're desperate
[17:05] <eagles0513875> dennister: u sure
[17:05] <matthias_> a
[17:05] <eagles0513875> u sure the cables are all plugged in
[17:05] <dennister> yes, flash utility said it worked
[17:06] <dennister> eagles0513875: yes, all the cables are in...hadn't touched the leds section
[17:06] <Nyad> How do I add stuff to the part which has my kmenu etc? more specifically, how do I put a link to my home folder there, since that thing only lets me add applets
[17:07] <dwidmann> nyad, right click the kmenu, go to edit
[17:07] <eagles0513875> dennister: u sure the wire that goes into the prongs on ur motherboard didnt come undone the one that allos u to pwer on ur machine when u press the poewr button
[17:07] <dwidmann> Nyad: oops, ah, you want to add something to the panel
[17:07] <Nyad> ya :)
[17:08] <dwidmann> Nyad: use "add application to panel" in the panel menu
[17:08] <dennister> it's not the end of the world, as i have lots of donated, older pc's now, but the older mobos for all the older cpu's (P3's) i've got are hard to find, so losing a working mobo is still a loss
[17:08] <dwidmann> Nyad: then use something like "kfmclient exec /home/blah" for the command I suppose
[17:09] <dennister> eagles0513875: i'm sure the wire you spoke of is ok...i hadn't touched those (the led panel i spoke of earlier)
[17:09] <eagles0513875> dennister: i would double check those come off easily sometimes
[17:09] <genii> drif: The current binary deb at http://ushare.geexbox.org/#Download is for 7.10 and not 7.04 but at that same location they give a repository line which could be added to sources.list and conceivably contain releases for other ubuntu versions
[17:10] <Nyad> dwidmann: whats kfmclient?
[17:10] <dennister> genii: hi there...think i borked a mobo after successfully flashing the bios...any way to recover power to mobo?
[17:10] <Nyad> I just wanna have my home shortcut put there
[17:11] <genii> dennister: When you power on do the 3 keyboard lights flash briefly on? If so may yet be hope. If not, the bios is screwed
[17:12] <dwidmann> Nyad: it's a KDE tool for opening URLs
[17:12] <dennister> genii: after flashing, and removing battery, did I remove all the bios?...haven't checked keyboard lights, but no lights on mobo come on
[17:12] <dwidmann> Nyad: it opens the appropriate app based on the mimetype of the file
[17:12] <drif> genii: yes, I've seen the page but not the repository you mentioned about (not for 7.10)
[17:12] <eagles0513875> !mp3
[17:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:12] <cannon> how can I make a directory writable?
[17:13] <eagles0513875> change its permissions
[17:13] <cannon> lol, how?
[17:13] <genii> cannon: Own it
[17:13]  * cannon drops his head
[17:13] <drif> genii: ah, "releases depository"? (old releases)
[17:13] <cannon> how?
[17:13] <genii> drif: Probably :)
[17:14] <cannon> is that supposed to make any sense to somebody thats never heard of it?
[17:14] <cannon> !drif
[17:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drif - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:14] <genii> cannon: man chown   and man chmod   for syntax on these commands. Depending on the location they are in you may require sudo
[17:14] <cannon> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[17:14] <drif> cannon :D
[17:14] <eagles0513875> cannon: right click on it
[17:14] <eagles0513875> cannon: or like genii said
[17:14] <cannon> i have asked about chmod before but nobody would answer
[17:15] <dennister> genii: if i borked bios, whole mobo is screwed?
[17:15] <eagles0513875> lol
[17:15] <drif> dennister: depends on mobo
[17:15] <eagles0513875> dennister: ouchie
[17:15] <drif> genii: just few tar.bz2 and rpm files :-\
[17:16] <cannon> so how do I had a group to ownership of a folder?
[17:16] <dennister> gonna try putting another battery in...have some spares
[17:16] <dwidmann> cannon: you don't, it can only be owned by one group
[17:17] <genii> dennister: There are convoluted ways t bring one back to life since it's only the cmos chip itself messed up. But this is like: buy a new cmos chip from somewhere for exact mb model, or: reprogram the chip by removing it from the mb and using a hardware based standalone chip programmer                or so.Assuming it's in a socket on that boad and not soldered in
[17:17] <cannon> so how can I write to it wouthout needing root access then?
[17:17] <dwidmann> cannon: you can change that group with the chrgrp command
[17:17] <cannon> an example of syntax?
[17:18] <dwidmann> cannon: same as chown, ie: chgrp groupname list of files
[17:18] <cannon> chrgrp isn't recognised in terminal
[17:18] <GS3User> cannon: chgrp
[17:18] <dwidmann> cannon: maybe I spelled it wrong then, I'm good at doing that
[17:18] <eagles0513875> i wanna host my own media stream what pkgs r there that i can use
[17:18] <dennister> genii: yes, that is convoluted...don't think it's worth it, considering these are donated boards
[17:19] <cannon> i still need an example of syntax as I jabe mever used chown before
[17:19] <dwidmann> cannon: I already gave you the syntax
[17:19] <dwidmann> cannon: look up ..... probably highlighted in red
[17:19] <cannon> lol, you didn't
[17:19] <GS3User> cannon: chgrp <group> <directory or files>
[17:19] <GS3User> cannon: he did
[17:19] <dennister> bbl...gonna try a couple things, if not, dump the mobo :(
[17:20] <Jurgentje> Hi... I installed Eclipse Europa cently (not via apt but just a plain install) ... suddenly, Firefox asked me to install a JAVA-client and I took the one that was proposed (don't remember exactly which one it was, but I already removed that one using APT) ... Still, I get the error when trying to launch Eclipse that the Java JRE or JDK is not found in my current PATH. (How) should I set a path in Kubuntu?
[17:20] <genii> dennister: If when you power on, the 3 keyboard lights flicker a moment, then the board is passing it's most basic self-test and can be rescued by floppy boot to a disk which just auto-runs the firmware update (although this happens without output to monitor)   Some MSI boards in particular can be worked this way
[17:21] <dwidmann> Jurgentje: I think the environment variable JAVA_HOME covers that
[17:21] <Jurgentje> dwidmann: errr... I'm pretty noob to Linux on the technical level... where shoulw I find that variable? (if you don't know it out of the top of your head, I'll google it)
[17:21] <MaDeX> Guys, anyone know any application that can unpack rar files?
[17:21] <cannon> root@cannon-desktop:/media# chgrp cannon sda4
[17:21] <cannon> chgrp: changing group of `sda4': Operation not permitted
[17:22] <cannon> any ideas?
[17:22] <GS3User> cannon: put sudo in front of the command
[17:22] <dwidmann> cannon: I think you set it in the file /etc/environment
[17:22] <Jurgentje> thanks, looking into it right away!
[17:23] <dwidmann> Jurgentje: you should be able to find your jre in /usr/lib/jvm, btw
[17:23] <genii> GS3User: If ou noticed he's running as root and sudo would be redundant and unneccesary.
[17:23] <cannon> i already tried sudo ... that was in a root shell
[17:23] <genii> cannon: You cannot change ownership on such things as raw devices in /dev   like an sda4 for instance
[17:23] <GS3User> cannon: i occasionaly have issues with permissions on things I torrent, the chgrp command I use goes like this: sudo chgrp <loginname> -R /media/sdq1
[17:24] <Jurgentje> yeah, it is there, but for some strange reason, Eclipse is looking for it in /home/myself/opt/eclipse/jre/bin/java :S
[17:24] <dwidmann> Jurgentje: ie: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin or similar would probably be what you want to set it to
[17:24] <GS3User> cannon: the -R tells it to be recursive
[17:24] <GS3User> cannon: you might try being more specific that sda4
[17:24] <cannon> ta
[17:24] <MaDeX> Anyone know of a app to unpack a rar file?
[17:24] <eagles0513875> MaDeX: i know a windos one
[17:25] <MaDeX> eagles0513875: thanks but im using this :D
[17:25] <flipstar> MaDeX: Ark (you probably need unrar installed)
[17:25] <GS3User> MaDeX: winrar and 7zip for sure, not sure if either of those exist on linux though
[17:25] <Pici> !rar
[17:25] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[17:25] <DreadKnight> MaDeX: yes, use ark but for the rar format i suggest you install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:25] <cannon> still getting operation not permitted
[17:25] <MaDeX> DreadKnight: thats what im looking for, how doo i go about it
[17:26] <ubunturos> !unrar
[17:26] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[17:26] <DreadKnight> MaDeX: alt + spate, type in console, then in console sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:26] <dwidmann> GS3User: p7zip is available for linux also
[17:26] <FFForever> how can i make a cron to run every 30mins?
[17:26] <DreadKnight> MaDeX: i meant fire up "konsole", it's a way to do things :-) not the only one
[17:26] <flipstar> FFForever: kcron is good for managing cron jobs
[17:27] <FFForever> i need to do it via ssh :/
[17:27] <dwidmann> FFForever: ssh -X?
[17:27] <bobesponja> Alt+F2 doesn't start krunner anymore (KDE3) how can I restart it?
[17:27] <FFForever> does not work, tried....
[17:27] <MaDeX> thanks DreadKnight, downloading 81 meg :/
[17:27] <dwidmann> FFForever: try doing it in kcron, then copying the line over?
[17:28] <FFForever> where do i put the line?
[17:28] <cannon> I typed "sudo chgrp cannon -R /media/sda4" and am still getting "Operation not permitted" :'(
[17:28] <DreadKnight> MaDeX: kubuntu-restricted-extras is a meta package, with flash, java, mp3 support, rar etc xD
[17:28] <dwidmann> FFForever: /etc/crontab methinks
[17:28] <MaDeX> DreadKnight: nice :D Is there a new kubuntu out atm?
[17:29] <eagles0513875> hardy beta
[17:29] <flipstar> FFForever: /etc/cron.hourly/ for hourly..
[17:29] <dwidmann> FFForever: I can think of a way to do it with 2 lines now that I think about it
[17:29] <DreadKnight> MaDeX: i'm running a beta of hardy actually :-) final will be release on 22th i think
[17:29] <eagles0513875> release is bout the 24th
[17:29] <MaDeX> im running beta i think :D
[17:29] <eagles0513875> same with me im running the 64bit
[17:29] <flipstar> DreadKnight: 24th :)
[17:29] <MaDeX> me too D
[17:29] <MaDeX> :D
[17:29] <DreadKnight> ok 24th my bad :D
[17:29]  * dwidmann is also
[17:29] <eagles0513875> best 64bit distro out there open suse is nice but to much bloatware
[17:29] <MaDeX> im giving it my 100% of attention
[17:29] <MaDeX> :D
[17:30] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: i agree, they must do something about the bloat installer as well, and improve hardware support :\
[17:30] <MaDeX> I think ubuntu is better,  but doesnt like my nvidia cards :/
[17:30] <genii> cannon: The mountpoint of something like /media/sda4 retains the ownership and group etc of the original device like /dev/sda4 which in turn is decided by udev each boot. Instead make a subfolder in /media/sda4 and chown that to whatever user is supposed to be writing there.
[17:30]  * dwidmann is too attached to debian-ish distros to care about opensuse
[17:30] <eagles0513875> post something on launchpad
[17:30] <eagles0513875> dwidmann: only distro that would run on my new laptop and im like u as well too attached to kubuntu
[17:31] <dwidmann> genii: or set the uid and gid in fstab
[17:31] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: awww, that's gotta hurt
[17:31] <genii> dwidmann: Yes, that also works. I'm just trying to give him the simplest thing to do atm
[17:31] <eagles0513875> dwidmann: ya right now im using my old laptop as my kubuntu dev machine
[17:32] <dwidmann> genii: funny thing is that that was exactly what I told him to do fifteen minutes ago, d'oh
[17:32]  * DreadKnight dislikes juk :\
[17:32] <genii> dwidmann: People rarely listen if it looks too complicated  :)
[17:33] <dwidmann> genii: generally people do tend to listen, I think it's more the rare occasion that people don't .....
[17:33] <eagles0513875> i do especially since im working on linux cert im always up for learning things
[17:33] <dwidmann> genii: at least on this side of the internet
[17:33] <eagles0513875> lol
[17:34] <dwidmann> DreadKnight: I never really liked Juk either ..... amarok ftw
[17:34] <DreadKnight> dwidmann: really bad move imho to ditch one of the best players with .... eh...
[17:34] <eagles0513875> any of u guys know of any pkgs to stream audio
[17:35] <dwidmann> DreadKnight: : ??????
[17:35] <DreadKnight> dwidmann: well, amarok is not the player in kde4 anymore
[17:35] <genii> !info ices2 | eagles0513875
[17:35] <ubotu> eagles0513875: ices2 (source: ices2): Ogg Vorbis streaming source for Icecast 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-5 (gutsy), package size 54 kB, installed size 248 kB
[17:35] <dwidmann> DreadKnight: amarok 2.0 isn't ready yet
[17:36] <eagles0513875> genii: is there an mp3 one
[17:36] <genii> eagles0513875: Also original ices which does mp3 (ices2 does not)
[17:36] <DreadKnight> dwidmann: as far as i know when it will be ready things will remain the same
[17:36] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[17:36] <eagles0513875> working on converting someone who streams audio ovr to linux
[17:36] <dwidmann> DreadKnight: juk has always been the default kde audio player, just kubuntu and many other distros use a different player for default (ie: amarok, xmms, etc)
[17:37] <DreadKnight> dwidmann: hmm you got a point there, so there is still hope for kubuntu :-)
[17:37] <genii> eagles0513875: There is also blackice but it is not in the repos
[17:37] <eagles0513875> my compiz isnt working right any one able to help me
[17:37] <eagles0513875> thanks genii im going to end up asking again i know for sure
[17:39] <eagles0513875> genii: can u link me to the ices home page
[17:39] <genii> eagles0513875: ices is in the repos and it can just be installed from Add/Remove programs
[17:39]  * dwidmann runs off to do his taxes
[17:39] <eagles0513875> ices isnt ices2 is
[17:41] <eagles0513875> can anone help me with compiz
[17:42] <kishore_> i have a question with regard to hal and usb storage mount points
[17:42] <kishore_> my external drive that used to mount as /media/ext_drive until about 2 hrs ago now mousts at /media/ext_drive-1
[17:43] <kishore_> This is even after a reboot
[17:43] <kishore_> how can i reset this behaviour?
[17:43] <cannon> any major benefits to upgrading to 8.04?
[17:43] <eagles0513875> cannon: u running 32 or 64
[17:43] <cannon> either
[17:43] <flipstar> kishore_: did you tried to delete that old mountpoint ? (if it is unmounted)
[17:43] <cannon> i have a 64bit but I don't see a dl for that
[17:44] <eagles0513875> ya there is im running 804 64bit
[17:44] <eagles0513875> ill link u
[17:44] <cannon> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD or 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD
[17:45] <cannon> for intel eagles0513875?
[17:45] <dcorbin_work> I click on "Version Upgrade" in Adept Updater.  It /appears/ to be hung on "Downloading and verifying the updgrade tool..."  ideas?
[17:45] <cannon> i thought the 64 bit was amd only
[17:45] <eagles0513875> cannon: dont think so
[17:45] <cannon> could you link me to the one you dl'd pls?
[17:46] <eagles0513875> ok
[17:46] <cannon> @ eagles0513875
[17:46] <kishore_> flipstar: let me try
[17:46] <eagles0513875> cannon: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/8.04/
[17:47] <cannon> ta
[17:47] <eagles0513875> read through em64t is intel 64bit processors
[17:47] <cannon> i only see i386 and amd64
[17:48] <flipstar> amd64 is 64bit in general
[17:48] <flipstar> name is little confusing
[17:48] <cannon> k
[17:48] <cannon> yup :P
[17:48] <eagles0513875> well its for both intel and amd
[17:48] <kishore_> flipstar: thanks that was the issue
[17:49] <flipstar> kishore_: it was probably locked up somehow so it just created a new one
[17:49] <Nyad> anyone know a simple way to have a home shortcut next to my Kmenu like they have in suse?
[17:49] <flipstar> Nyad: the method mentioned before works great
[17:50] <cannon> whats the difference between: kubuntu-8.04-beta-alternate-amd64.iso and kubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-amd64.iso?
[17:50] <flipstar> Nyad: add kfmclient exec /home/blah
[17:50] <Nyad> how? I looked but could not find
[17:50] <Nyad> add that to what?
[17:50] <flipstar> cannon: alternate is only the pure installer+rescue disk the desktop is a live cd
[17:51] <cannon> k
[17:51] <flipstar> Nyad: right click on the K icon then start kmenueditor and click on add
[17:51] <genii> eagles0513875: Some research indicates ices2 now supports mp3 (did not previously). Servers available from repositories: darkice, icecast-server, icecast2, liveice
[17:52] <genii> eagles0513875: Work required me, apologies on lag
[17:52] <Nyad> it has new menu and submenu, no add
[17:52] <eagles0513875> sweet thanks genii
[17:53] <genii> eagles0513875: np
[17:53] <flipstar> Nyad: new entry then...
[17:54] <Nyad> but that will add to my kmenu... not to the part next to it
[17:55] <Nyad> flipstar: I need to go but I'll be back
[17:57] <cannon> shocking dl speeds for that 8.04
[17:58] <flipstar> use p2p :)
[17:59] <helkate87> hello. i just installed wlan drivers for my laptop. but it doesnt do the wlan0 config file, how to fix this?
[18:00] <flipstar> which app do i use to view/edit a ".c" program text ?
[18:01] <cannon> whats the most popular linux distro?
[18:08] <MaDeX> cannon: use this one :D
[18:08] <flipstar> according to the user numbers on freenode its ubuntu then gentoo and then debian
[18:09] <LadyNikon> user number != popularity
[18:09] <LadyNikon> just means people have more questions heh
[18:09] <flipstar> 1253 on #ubuntu , 963 on #gentoo , 862 on #debian :)
[18:09] <ubsafder> hello
[18:10] <warren_> hi
[18:10] <eagles0513875> damn compiz
[18:10] <MaDeX> hey :D
[18:11] <eagles0513875> compiz is fun lol
[18:12] <genii> cannon: Distrowatch has them listed by number of downloads if you're actually interested.
[18:12] <LimCore> eagles0513875: =)
[18:12] <genii> bah left
[18:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[18:12] <ubsafder> how do i copy all the file of my home directory to a backup is it "cp -Rxvp" ?
[18:13] <flipstar> ubsafder: would work, yes
[18:13] <genii> ubsafder: -a means archive which does same as -dpR
[18:13] <ubsafder> cp -Rxvp /home/user /mybackup/ but it looks like i am missing some files
[18:13] <flipstar> it doesnt copy hidden files
[18:13] <genii> ubsafder: Won't copy .files
[18:13] <genii> flipstar: heh
[18:14] <flipstar> ubsafder: why not using konqueror :)
[18:14] <eagles0513875> !vmware
[18:14] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[18:14] <eagles0513875> !boinc
[18:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boinc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:14] <ubsafder> flipstar: yes i noticed how do i copy the hidden files too
[18:15] <flipstar> with 'cp' ? dont know..but in konqueror check view hidden files then just copy all
[18:15] <flipstar> or use dd
[18:16] <ubsafder> flipstar: how do i use dd for just my home directory
[18:17] <flipstar> ubsafder: is you home on the root filesystem or has it own partition ?
[18:18] <ubsafder> in /home/user
[18:18] <ubsafder> all files in one partition
[18:18] <ubsafder> ok i found the answer thanks bye
[18:19] <flipstar> wow
[18:24] <Ace2016> flipstar: wow?
[18:24] <flipstar> wow!
[18:24] <flipstar> was just funny
[18:25] <Ace2016> what was funny?
[18:26] <flipstar> when people answer there own questions
[18:32] <kbmaniac> big trouble in hardy .... it just did an upgrade and appears to have wiped everything apart from memtest86+ in /boot :(
[18:32] <kbmaniac> and it was all going soooo well :(
[18:33] <flipstar> kbmaniac: time for a rescue cd
[18:33] <kbmaniac> I still have /boot/grub/.... any idea what I have to re install to restore ?
[18:34] <flipstar> sounds like no kernel is present
[18:34] <kbmaniac> an initrd image
[18:34] <lufthanza_> how do I remount my root fs to readonly so I can do a fsck on it?
[18:34] <flipstar> kbmaniac: btw hardy in #ubuntu+1
[18:34] <kbmaniac> yep hello rescue cd !
[18:35] <kbmaniac> its the proce of beta software
[18:35] <kbmaniac> oh OK moving over ...
[18:36] <lufthanza_> anyone?
[18:36] <Nyad> The latest nvidia cards only have trouble in ubuntu and not in other distros right?
[18:39] <MarcC_> what's the safest way to run basic compositing in 7.10?
[18:40] <flipstar> lufthanza_: init1 (single user mode) might help and there is also an magic sys rq key for that
[18:41] <flipstar> lufthanza_: the magic key is ALT+PRINT+U (unmounts all and mount it readonly)
[18:43] <Nyad> The latest nvidia cards only have trouble in ubuntu and not in other distros right?
[18:43] <jdong> the magic sysrq key is for emergencies
[18:43] <jdong> it should NOT be used for bringing down the system to a fsck unless it's an emergency
[18:44] <jdong> init 1 is correct
[18:44] <jdong> as is booting up in recovery mode, then running "mount -o remount,ro /
[18:44] <jdong> ""
[18:45] <maiken> Hi I have an issue mounting NTFS in kubuntu 7.1, actually i don't know how to (i'll need full permanent R/W access)
[18:45] <LimCore> maiken: try -o rw
[18:45] <LimCore> to mount
[18:45] <MarcC_> !compiz
[18:45] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:45] <LimCore> and/or  ,rw to fstab  in options collun
[18:46] <MarcC_> !beryl
[18:46] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[18:46] <maiken> LimCore plz be more specific
[18:46] <LimCore> maiken:   mount  /dev/whatever  /whetver -o rw   will mount with R/W access
[18:46] <LimCore> man mount
[18:48] <maiken> thx Limcore
[18:57] <sigma_1234> anyone here used elisa media player before?
[18:57] <Nyad> The latest nvidia cards only have trouble in ubuntu and not in other distros right?
[19:00] <sigma_1234> elisa
[19:05] <Nyad> The latest nvidia cards only have trouble in ubuntu and not in other distros right?
[19:05] <genii> Nyad: The 8800 series are having difficulties in every distribution of linux
[19:05] <funny> hi
[19:05] <Nyad> is that nvidia's fault?
[19:06] <genii> Nyad: They have not yet upgraded the linux drivers to support that series. So yes.
[19:06] <Nyad> so I suppose hardy won't fix my problem :(
[19:07] <genii> Nyad: Not yet, no.
[19:07] <Nyad> dang
[19:26] <dromer> hi all, I changed motherboard recently, changed xorg.conf to use the i810 driver (onboard gpu) and naw X will start, but I can't get past login .. kdm.log says it want's to start GLX, which I don't have the (previous cards) nvidia driver for .. how do I make kdm not start glx? :S
[19:29] <calcmandan> hi guys. Day two after a fresh install of 7.10.    Just booted up cold and I can't get sound.  Says that the device is busy, but I haven't done anything to spur this.  What can I do, outside of rebooting, to free up the sound?
[19:30] <calcmandan> Running onboard audio from the via chipset.
[19:30] <Coggz> need help with X
[19:32] <calcmandan> any suggestions?
[19:33] <jussio1> !ask | Coggz
[19:33] <ubotu> Coggz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:34] <jussio1> calcmandan: do you have any sond aps running at startup?
[19:34] <Coggz> http://pastebin.com/m46919429 what is wrong with this? X wont start with it
[19:34] <jussio1> ie. amarok, skype etc?
[19:35] <calcmandan> jussio1: no, if anything ever loads its klipper, korganizer.
[19:36] <calcmandan> jussio1: it's just strange. this never happened while i had 6.06. heck if i had any sound apps running, it played whatever on top of what was running.
[19:36] <jussio1> Coggz: have you modified your xorg at all?
[19:36] <Coggz> yes, but it has been working fine
[19:36] <jussio1> calcmandan: yeah, Ive had it before, but I cant remember how I fixed it
[19:37] <jussio1> Coggz: what triggered this non starting x, what did you change?
[19:37] <Coggz> have a look, http://pastebin.com/m46919429
[19:37] <Coggz> the wacom bits work, but the display wont
[19:38] <Coggz> its a tablet pc
[19:40] <jussio1> Coggz: you dont have any resolutions listed...
[19:40] <Coggz> oh,
[19:41] <Coggz> ill look at this xorg.conf (the one that works but has no table)
[19:42] <jussio1> Coggz: remember to back up :)
[19:42] <Coggz> ya, lol
[19:43] <cannon> hardy is kinda buggy
[19:43] <Coggz> should it be as a subsection
[19:44] <jussio1> Coggz: back up and grab a new xorg with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and use it as a template
[19:46] <Coggz> ok, moment of truth... restarting X
[19:58] <kgrittn> Is there a page somewhere that covers how to build postgresql on kubuntu?  I'm failing at the ./configure step.
[19:59] <_Coggz_> jussi01: ok, i got it working ta..
[19:59] <matt__> will kubuntu 8.04 come out the same time period as ubuntu?
[20:00] <kgrittn> I need to be able to build from their CVS tip and apply patches.  The apt-get doesn't cover everything I need.
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[20:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:04] <Seren___> I have selected "no splash" in hardy
[20:04] <Seren___> it starts but it looks rather broken
[20:04] <Seren___> there is no icon, only a rectangular blue area with a truncated text
[20:05] <jussio1> Seren___: hardy support in #ubuntu+1 :)
[20:05] <Seren___> thx
[20:05] <matt__> has kde 4.*********** improved much since <IP_ADDRESS>.0.0.0 ??? IE, is the newest any better than 4.0?
[20:06] <jussio1> matt__: I suggest you ask the kde4 users in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[20:06] <Seren___> matt__ : yes it is much better
[20:06] <Seren___> but it is not quite there yet
[20:07] <kgrittn> How do I correct this?: /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[20:08] <matt__> Seren___: alright, do you use it most/all the time though?
[20:08] <matt__> Seren___: good enough for that?
[20:09] <Seren___> matt : I only had a sneakpeak, it crashed once or twice, on since there is double application like konsole/kd3 and konsole installed, I wiped it out and went back to 3.5.9
[20:09] <Seren___> but now I am pretty sure I will switch once it is ready
[20:14] <kgrittn> For the record, I was able to get past that first error with: apt-get install libc6-dev (thanks to google searches).
[20:15] <_Coggz_> how do i get a command to execute on startup
[20:15] <Seren___> _Coggz_:  put it in ~\.kde\Autostart if you want to launch it at the start of the user session
[20:16] <_Coggz_> no, at boot
[20:17] <Seren___> there is something like locale.rc or something
[20:17] <Seren___> but I can't remember the exact name at the moment
[20:17] <Seren___> I am looking for it
[20:17] <_Coggz_> rc.local
[20:17] <_Coggz_> it doesn't work if i place it there
[20:18] <Seren___> what do you want to start ?
[20:18] <kaminix> I have a CD from Poland with pictures which my konqueror can't read, when trying to copy the files to a USB memory it says it can't find the files. How can I copy them?
[20:18] <kaminix> Doesn't work in Bash using wild card stuff.
[20:21] <_Coggz_> Seren___: sorry, i was away, i need to run the command xsetwacom set stylus Button2 3, then xsetwacom set stylus Button3 2
[20:23] <Seren___> did you try to put that in a Autostart ? Just to see if it is sufficient ?
[20:23] <Seren___> unless you want it for all users on the machine
[20:23] <_Coggz_> hmm, could, but i need to pass arguments
[20:24] <_Coggz_> ill ask in ubuntu
[20:24] <Seren___> create a file like "wavecom.sh"
[20:24] <Seren___> and inside put !#/usr/bin/sh on the first line
[20:24] <Seren___> and then your two commands on the next two lines
[20:24] <Seren___> chmod +x ./wacom.sh
[20:25] <Seren___> and it should work
[20:25] <_Coggz_> hmm...
[20:25] <_Coggz_> !startup
[20:25] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[20:25] <rickest> Seren___: it's usually #!/bin/sh
[20:25] <_Coggz_> !boot
[20:25] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[20:25] <Seren___> thx rickest I always got that wrong :)
[20:25] <fdoving>  seren___ it's /bin/sh, but the rest is correct :)
[20:26] <fdoving> ah, nevermind.
[20:26] <fdoving> too late :)
[20:26] <rickest> Seren___: I do, too, switching back & forth between perl & bash  heh
[20:29] <_Coggz_> where do i put the file? in .Autostart?
[20:29] <rickest> _Coggz_: ~/.kde/Autostart folder
[20:32] <Seren___> coggz : you should first try to run your script with " .\wacom.sh" to see what happens
[20:33] <_Coggz_> ok
[20:33] <_Coggz_> ./wacombutton.sh: line 1: !#/bin/sh: No such file or directory
[20:34] <fdoving> _coggz_: #! not !# :)
[20:34] <_Coggz_> oops
[20:34] <_Coggz_> lol
[20:34] <fdoving> computers are picky. :)
[20:36] <_Coggz_> bash: ./wacombutton.sh: bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[20:36] <cannon> hey all
[20:36] <Seren___> coggz : type "which sh" in a konsole
[20:36] <Seren___> an copy that next to #!
[20:36] <Seren___> without space
[20:36] <fdoving> _coggz_: you forgot the first / i guess.
[20:37] <_Coggz_> well done fdoving, lol im not used to this tiny keyboard
[20:38] <cannon> is it possible to upgrade to 8.04 through adept?
[20:39] <pteague> when i press 'print screen' does it act like windows & simply puts it in the klipboard or does it save it as an untitled image somewhere?
[20:39] <Seren___> cannon : not yet I think
[20:39] <ivan_> hi
[20:39] <cannon> k
[20:39] <_Coggz_> now i have no keyboard!
[20:39] <cannon> then how did ya type? lol
[20:39] <_Coggz_> tablet pc
[20:39] <Seren___> coggz : how did you type that ?
[20:39] <cannon> lol
[20:40] <cannon> not the only one thinking it then :P
[20:40] <_Coggz_> cellwriter
[20:40] <cannon> with the mouse?
[20:40] <Seren___> pteague : it does launch ksnapshot I think
[20:40] <Seren___> or at least I configured my desktop that way
[20:40] <_Coggz_> no,pen on the screen
[20:40] <cannon> cool
[20:40] <pteague> i seem to have to manually launch ksnapshot...
[20:41] <_Coggz_> got a cheap tablet pc, acer
[20:41] <pteague> going into system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts -> global shortcuts & scrolling down the list...  "Desktop Screenshot" has shortcut "Print"
[20:42] <Seren___> coggz : it is probably related to the wacom command, there must be other option to keep the keyboard working
[20:42] <Seren___> (unless it was you intention all along )
[20:42] <_Coggz_> ?
[20:42] <Seren___> do you want to have your keyboard active or do you want to switch to the tablet ?
[20:42] <cannon> whats the most popular linux distro?
[20:43] <Seren___> cannon : you can check distrowatch
[20:43] <cannon> k
[20:43] <Seren___> which is not that reliable but is supposed to give an idea
[20:44] <_Coggz_> well i fold the screen back so the keyboard is hidden
[20:45] <_Coggz_> acer travelmate C111tCi
[20:45] <Seren___> _Coggz_: ok I understand now
[20:46] <rcg1984> hello all, what's the command to view unmounted hard drives that linux has found so I can in-return mount them?
[20:46] <cannon> hmmm, ubuntu is no 1 yet kubuntu is no 14
[20:47] <_Coggz_> £150
[20:49] <_Coggz_> unrelated: how do ¡ disable compiz
[20:52] <genii> who had the polish cdrom they could not copy files from? I think perhaps the answer is to specify in the mount fstab line or command ISO-8859-2 as the iocharset
[20:53] <_Coggz_> it was kam¡nix
[20:53] <genii> kaminix: Still here?
[20:54] <genii> _Coggz_: Thanks
[20:54] <cannon> why on eath do linux apps not come with an installer?
[20:54] <cannon> *earth
[20:54] <genii> cannon: They do. It's called Adept or Synaptic
[20:54] <kaminix> genii: Well, yes, but I don't have my USB memory here now so I can't try it out. Would love to know for future reference though.
[20:55] <cannon> there are plenty of apps that don't have an installer though
[20:55] <cannon> like if I dl em from the web
[20:56] <Seren___> if it is not a .deb, you probably have a readme somewhere telling you to "make install" or something
[20:56] <genii> cannon: Thats because sinc so many distributions if a standalone installer for each there would be hundreds of the same program but just for different flavours. Thats why there's source code.
[20:57] <jussio1> cannon: its because noone has packaged them yet, there is a great packaging guide if you care to get involved...
[20:57] <Seren___> !packaging
[20:57] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[21:01] <cannon> yes I would jussi ... pls link me
[21:04] <cannon> jussio1: could you help me mount my drives pls?
[21:05] <cannon> i kept getting errors earlier
[21:06] <ubuntu> iam having a grub 15 error. any help?
[21:10] <_Coggz_> !grub
[21:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:14] <cannon> i have typed this: "cannon@cannon-desktop:~$ ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to try and log into ssh to test it and I get nothing ... just a blank line ... any ideas?
[21:14] <genii> ubuntu: Whats the last thing that happened before it started doing this?
[21:14] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, alt+F2 , kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst , then make sure hiddenmenu has a comment in front like this , #
[21:14] <eagles0513875> cannon: try type ssh
[21:14] <eagles0513875> cannon: nm
[21:14] <genii> cannon: ssh -l cannon x.x.x.x
[21:14] <cannon> whats the -l for?
[21:14] <genii> cannon: login name
[21:15] <cannon> ahh, connection timed out on the previous atempt with out the -l
[21:15] <ubuntu> genii BluesKaj brb
[21:15] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: what u dog
[21:16] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: whats the error msg ur getting
[21:16] <cannon> usage: ssh [-1246AaCfgKkMNnqsTtVvXxY] [-b bind_address] [-c cipher_spec]
[21:16] <cannon>            [-D [bind_address:]port] [-e escape_char] [-F configfile]
[21:16] <cannon> that can't be right?
[21:16] <ubuntu> eagles0513875 15
[21:17] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: let me do a google search
[21:17] <kubuntero> !grub
[21:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:18] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: u duel booting
[21:18] <ubuntu> ya
[21:18] <ubuntu> error 15
[21:18] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/Ubuntu-10-grub-error-15-ftopict380877.html
[21:19] <eagles0513875> u trying to boot to windows or linux
[21:19] <eagles0513875> and is it windows xp or vista
[21:21] <ubuntu> just amin
[21:22] <ubuntu> eagles0513875 back. ya i was trying to dual boot. windows and ubuntu. windows is booting. ubuntu is not
[21:22] <eagles0513875> was this a clean install
[21:22] <ubuntu> ya
[21:23] <eagles0513875> how new is ur machine
[21:23] <eagles0513875> and ur windows version xp or vista
[21:23] <ubuntu> xp
[21:23] <eagles0513875> ok thats interesting
[21:23] <eagles0513875> can u even get to a command line
[21:23] <ubuntu> nop
[21:24] <eagles0513875> u can get into windows right
[21:24] <ubuntu> yes
[21:24] <eagles0513875> u have anything u need o ur linux partition
[21:24] <eagles0513875> and r u trying to install hardy beta or gutsy
[21:24] <ubuntu> i have installed 7.10 already
[21:24] <cannon> i need help opening ports
[21:24] <eagles0513875> and u cant bot it
[21:24] <eagles0513875> *boot
[21:25] <eagles0513875> cannon: im not much help in that dept
[21:25] <kubuntero> ubuntu: What's the problem ?
[21:25] <genii> error 15 means it can't find the files it needs directly after the kernel is loaded. Usually this is caused by a faulty root= line in menu.lst
[21:25] <ubuntu> kubuntero grub error 15
[21:26] <ubuntu> genii ok. how to solve it
[21:26] <ubuntu> blackflag it has a #
[21:27] <will00> ey im tryin to do a fresh kubuntu install, but when i reboot, i get a grub error 15
[21:27] <eagles0513875> will00: gutsy
[21:27] <eagles0513875> !icecast2
[21:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:27] <eagles0513875> !ice
[21:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:27] <will00> beg pardon?, its the latest version whatever it is
[21:27] <eagles0513875> !ices
[21:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ices - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:28] <eagles0513875> will00: hardy
[21:28] <kubuntero> !info icecast | eagles0513875
[21:28] <ubotu> eagles0513875: Package icecast does not exist in gutsy
[21:28] <eagles0513875> im on hardy btw
[21:28] <kubuntero> will00: Sounds like you have a bad root= line in your grub
[21:28] <will00> eagles0513875: ok so what exactly are you telling me to do?
[21:28] <genii> eagles0513875: preface with: info
[21:28] <genii> !info icecast2
[21:28] <ubotu> icecast2 (source: icecast2): Ogg Vorbis and MP3 streaming media server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-5.1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 264 kB, installed size 728 kB
[21:28] <ubuntu> eagles0513875 kubuntero i think ill just reinstall kubunty
[21:29] <kubuntero> ubuntu: Did you read the Grub factoid ?
[21:29] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: sometimes its better if u dont wana mess with grub
[21:29] <kubuntero> I assume you have a live CD :)
[21:29] <ubuntu> kubuntero nop. let me
[21:29] <eagles0513875> kubuntero: u have the same problem as ubuntu
[21:29] <eagles0513875> genii: does icecast have gui
[21:29] <kubuntero> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:29] <kubuntero> eagles0513875: not that I know of. Might havea web server in it by now
[21:30] <genii> eagles0513875: There is a primitive web interface
[21:30] <kubuntero> eagles0513875: No I can mount NTFS drives but I can't mount ext2 or ext3 drives
[21:30] <eagles0513875> genii: rather complex
[21:30]  * kubuntero gives genii koffee
[21:30] <will00> anyone know why a fresh install would return a grub error 15?
[21:31] <kubuntero> will00: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:31] <genii> kubuntero: Thanks, need it :)
[21:31] <eagles0513875> will00: could bea an error when u burned the iso
[21:31] <will00> doubtful, it matched the md5sum
[21:31] <ubuntu> k
[21:31] <eagles0513875> have u guys checked launchpad
[21:32] <kubuntero> will00: Don't know but it should be pretty easy to fix /workaround
[21:32] <will00> yea
[21:32] <kubuntero> genii: Any clue why I wouldn't be able to mount ext2 or ext3 drives but can mount ntfs ?
[21:33] <mkquist> will00: so u have the cd?
[21:33] <jussio1> !ntfs-3g
[21:33] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:33] <will00> mkquist: yea i do, runnin the live dvd now
[21:33] <kubuntero> jussio1: I'm assuming that's for me?
[21:33] <mkquist> will00: checked ur menu.lst?
[21:33] <will00> how do i do that?
[21:34] <ubuntu> where are the kde configs placed?
[21:34] <jussio1> kubuntero: yeps :)
[21:34] <jussio1> ubuntu: ~/.kde
[21:34] <ubuntu> k
[21:34] <kubuntero> jussio1: I'm also assuming you didn't read my issue :)
[21:34] <kubuntero> ubuntu: configs for what ?
[21:34] <mkquist> will00: open terminal and goto something like /media/hd1/ (or wherever u installed ubuntu) and goto /boot/grub/
[21:35] <ubuntu> jussi01 kubuntero eagles0513875 how to reinstall grub
[21:35] <jussio1> kubuntero: no. all I saw was: [23:29:32] <kubuntero> genii: Any clue why I wouldn't be able to mount ext2 or ext3 drives but can mount ntfs ?
[21:35] <kubuntero> mkquist: Kind ahard if you can't boot :)
[21:35] <jussio1> !grub | ubuntu
[21:35] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:35] <ubuntu> kubuntero all types. np. .kde is the one
[21:35] <mkquist> will00: no use the live cd terminal
[21:35] <kubuntero> ubuntu: ubuntuhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:35] <mkquist> will00: can do same thing in live cd
[21:35] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: not sure i just reinstall
[21:35] <ubuntu> k
[21:35] <ubuntu> eagles0513875 reinstall distro. or grub?
[21:36] <kubuntero> jussio1: Right so NTFS works fine. Linux file systems do not
[21:36] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: distro
[21:36] <ubuntu> k
[21:36] <will00> ok im there
[21:36] <ubuntu> thx
[21:36] <kubuntero> and I'll assume that !ext3 doesn't help :)
[21:36] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: wait
[21:36] <ubuntu> k
[21:36] <mkquist> will00: in terminal?
[21:36] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: question how old is the hard drive
[21:36] <will00> yea
[21:36] <ubuntu> eagles0513875 2 days
[21:36] <jussio1> kubuntero: hehe, sorry, missread
[21:36] <genii> kubuntero: Are these external drives you're having the issue with? (or usb stick, etc)
[21:36] <mkquist> will00: type 'cd /' no quotes of course
[21:36] <x_link> Hi!
[21:36] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: that rules out the possibility of bad harddrive
[21:36] <will00> ok
[21:37] <x_link> Does anybody know where I can get Kubuntu Gutsy 64-bits Live CD?
[21:37] <mkquist> cd media
[21:37] <kubuntero> genii: no the hard drives on the computer
[21:37] <eagles0513875> genii: what was the name of the 3rd streaming audio program
[21:37] <eagles0513875> x_link: give me a min
[21:37] <will00> ok iv already navigated to the grub menu
[21:37] <will00> *folder not menu
[21:37] <ubuntu> eagles0513875 i used partition magic in window to check some fat partitions for bad sectors. rebooted. and grub failed.
[21:37] <eagles0513875> x_link: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[21:37] <kubuntero> ubuntu: Ah interesting
[21:37] <genii> eagles0513875: liveice ?
[21:38] <mkquist> will00: sudo gedit menu.lst or just gedit to look at it
[21:38] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: thats what probably messed it up
[21:38] <eagles0513875> genii: not sure if it was that u told me bout ice2 icecast
[21:38] <x_link> eagles0513875: I found it now, thanks anyway =)
[21:38] <eagles0513875> i need something with a gui
[21:38] <will00> ok i dont have gedit
[21:38] <genii> eagles0513875: Yes
[21:38] <eagles0513875> x_link: no prob
[21:38] <dan_> Hi !
[21:38] <kubuntero> mkquist: In Kubuntu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:38] <ubuntu> eagles0513875 kubuntero well those fats had nothing to do with ext3. any ways. i ll reinstall kubunty
[21:38] <genii> eagles0513875: Also darkice
[21:38] <will00> ok that i can do
[21:38] <kubuntero> mkquist: kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit it
[21:38] <rcg1984> I have 4 hard drives hooked up via raid Array 0.  How do I find out if linux recognizes the hard drives?
[21:38] <dan_> I have a little question about harddrive icon on desktop...
[21:38] <mkquist> kubuntero: sry forgot which channel i was in...
[21:39] <ubuntu> bye :)
[21:39] <kubuntero> ubuntu: Which ever is easier for you. reinstall or fix grub
[21:39] <genii> kubuntero: Does it give you any cryptic explanation of why it can't mount them?
[21:39] <ubuntu> kubuntero reinstalling is
[21:39] <kubuntero> fix grub should be faster but reinstall is easier
[21:39] <kubuntero> genii: doesn't recognize the FStype
[21:39] <dan_> Even I chek the option, I can't see it on desktop
[21:39] <ubuntu> kubuntero eagles0513875 how to make backups of whole partition image. with good compression
[21:39] <ubuntu> ?
[21:39] <kubuntero>  even if I say this is the type
[21:40] <eagles0513875> dont know much bout backing up never really had to
[21:40] <mkquist> will00: sry abou that
[21:40] <will00> k
[21:40] <kubuntero> ubuntu: dd with gzip ?
[21:40] <genii> kubuntero: You've tried like:  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/devname /mount/point           type syntax?
[21:40] <mkquist> will00: *about
[21:40] <kubuntero> genii: yup
[21:40] <genii> kubuntero: Perhas need fsck
[21:40] <ubuntu> kubuntero best way?
[21:40] <genii> *perhaps
[21:41] <kubuntero> It says bad fstype or bad superblock
[21:41] <kubuntero> I ran fsck
[21:41] <kubuntero> runs in like seconds and says it's all good
[21:41] <eagles0513875> genii: do either of those 2 have a gui
[21:41] <kubuntero> ubuntu: I don't know your setup so I can't make an informed suggestion
[21:42] <ubuntu> thx
[21:42] <kubuntero> !backup
[21:42] <kubuntero> genii: How long should fsck take on a 60 GB drive ?
[21:42] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[21:43] <ubuntu> kubuntero eagles0513875 i have g4l ghost for linux . i think it uses partimage. its compresion is good. bzip2 i think. but it dont uncompresses the image file to see or copy a single file. (only restore images)  any better ideas?
[21:43] <genii> kubuntero: depends on a few variables but generally longest should be 20 minuts
[21:43] <kubuntero> ubuntu: tarballs of file system diffs ?
[21:44] <kubuntero> No what's the shortest ?
[21:44] <kubuntero> I'll time it and tell you
[21:44] <ubuntu> kubuntero what?
[21:44] <kubuntero> genii: real    0m0.097s
[21:44] <will00> ok im readin thru the menu.lst
[21:44] <kubuntero> That's how long it took
[21:44] <eagles0513875> genii: there is gnump3d which has a gui
[21:45] <kubuntero> ubuntu: Look at amanda
[21:45] <genii> kubuntero: When just checking journalling can be a possible #
[21:45] <ubuntu> kubuntero what is amanda
[21:45] <mkquist> will00: check the entry for ur kubuntu install make sure it's pointing at the right place, sometimes it gets confused, ive had that happen exactly and got grub error 15
[21:45] <kubuntero> !info amanda > ubuntu
[21:46] <genii> kubuntero: Work is yelling for me
[21:46] <_myrtille_> !wine
[21:46] <kubuntero> !info bacula > ubuntu
[21:46] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:46] <will00> yea i checked and its there
[21:46] <kubuntero> genii: Take the pot of coffe I won't have any
[21:46]  * kubuntero sips a cup of horlicks
[21:46] <ubuntu> kubuntero why are you telin gme that
[21:46] <_myrtille_> !AppDB
[21:46] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[21:47] <ubuntu> kubuntero oh ok
[21:47] <kubuntero> ubuntu:  You wanted backup solutions that allowed you to restore single files right ?
[21:47] <kubuntero> Ubotu shuld have given you info privately
[21:48] <mkquist> will00: but does it have the correct drive/partition listed for ur linux install?
[21:49] <ubuntu_> hi
[21:49] <will00> mkquist, yea it does
[21:50] <will00> mkquist unless it should have (hd1,0) before the /boot
[21:50] <kubuntero> ubuntu_: hi
[21:51] <genii> Gotta go
[21:52] <ubuntu_> where are you from
[21:52] <mkquist> will00: so second hard drive first partition? and no it does not..
[21:53] <will00> mkquist: yea thats right
[21:53] <mkquist> will00: thats where ur linux install is?
[21:53] <will00> yes
[21:53] <kubuntero> ubuntu_: Do you have a support question ?
[21:54] <eagles0513875> !offtopic |ubunu_
[21:54] <ubotu> ubunu_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:56] <mkquist> will00: id make sure, that was my suggestion.. so u get a grub menu? it just errors out when u try to pick kubuntu right?
[21:56] <will00> no
[21:56] <mkquist> will00: so u get no menu at all?
[21:56] <will00> right
[21:56] <mkquist> will00: but u can boot to windows?
[21:56] <will00> i dont have windows
[21:57] <mkquist> will00: oh sorry, thought u did, so no boot at all then
[21:57] <will00> nope
[21:57] <mkquist> will00: then whats on partition (hd0,0)?
[21:57] <will00> music
[21:57] <will00> i have an old ide 250 gig that i didnt wanna toss
[21:57] <mkquist> will00: so linux worked before then?
[21:58] <ubuntu_> kubuntero: sorry
[21:58] <will00> no i was runnin gentoo before, and i had MAJOR issues with that, so i switched back to kubuntu (which was runnin on it before)
[21:59] <_myrtille_> somebody knows wine here? I'm not getting answers in the wine-channel
[21:59] <kubuntero> ubuntu_: No worries just keep chatter in the right rooms. If you want to talk then #kubuntu-offtopic is the place
[21:59] <_myrtille_> i'd like to run batchfiles from the winecmdline
[21:59] <kubuntero> _myrtille_: #winehq ?
[22:00] <_myrtille_> jepp, there doesn't seem to be anyone in there
[22:00] <_myrtille_> at least they're not responding ;)
[22:00] <mkquist> will00: so u installed from dvd? over ur gentoo install?
[22:01] <will00> yea i formatted the drive, then installed
[22:01] <mkquist> will00: are u sure ur music is on (hd0,0)? and not ur linux install?
[22:01] <ubuntu_> kubuntero: ok
[22:02] <will00> well with gentoo, i had to put set it to (hd0,0) even though grub recognizes it as (hd1,0)
[22:03] <mkquist> will00: try changing ur menu.lst to (hd0,0) for linux and see if it boots...
[22:03] <trappist> will00: I have that issue with distros that enable "boot offboard chipsets first" support in the kernel, in boxes with onboard raid cards, pci ide cards, etc.
[22:03] <will00> ok
[22:03] <alexei_> hi, anybody has an idea how to make WLAN-keys from kdewallet accessible to knetworkmanager without typing a password everytime?
[22:03] <mkquist> will00: u can always put it back w/live dvd
[22:03] <trappist> will00: could also try "ide=reverse" as a kernel parameter
[22:04] <will00> ok im gonna try changin the grub conf
[22:04] <ForzaPalermo>  hey i got a question about samba, i have a share working fine on my linux server to windows, but how do i give different rights of the folders in the shares to my users
[22:04] <eagles0513875> !samba
[22:04] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[22:04] <ForzaPalermo> it seems to only work at the top level, and i dont want to create a different share with the same folder
[22:05] <_Coggz_> how do i test my microphone?
[22:05] <mkquist> trappist: u can swap drive id in grub too, but why bother?
[22:05] <kubuntero> Reboot
[22:06] <noaXess> _Coggz_: audacity... its a great audio tool
[22:06] <_Coggz_> kk
[22:07] <ForzaPalermo> the wiki doesnt say anthing about folders in a share
[22:07] <ForzaPalermo> i just want one folder in the group to have full read write access
[22:07] <_Coggz_> cool, just apt'ing noaXess
[22:08] <bleis> DGHFGDH
[22:10] <billytwowilly> Hi,
[22:10] <billytwowilly> Can anyone recommend a good host for email for a small business? we have 10-20 email accounts at any one time and just need pop access
[22:11] <billytwowilly> pm me please
[22:11] <noaXess> billytwowilly: i think you are at the wrong place
[22:11] <avivi> hi
[22:11] <avivi> some one can help me to install firefox?
[22:12] <billytwowilly> noaXess, can you point me to the right place? I semi trust you guys, so I figured you would be good people to ask.
[22:12] <_Coggz_> use apt-get avivi
[22:12] <noaXess> !firefox
[22:12] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[22:12] <will00> no dice
[22:13] <noaXess> billytwowilly: googling for a provider in your contry or area..
[22:13] <billytwowilly> noaXess, I don't trust google;) Somone pointed out #ubuntu-offtopic, so I'll ask in there
[22:13] <avivi> byrel?
[22:14] <noaXess> avivi: sudo apt-get install package-name
[22:14] <avivi> thanks
[22:16] <mkquist> will00: same error?
[22:16] <will00> yea
[22:16] <mkquist> will00: have u tried just reinstall grub?
[22:16] <will00> no
[22:19] <dan_> someone can help with dekstop harddrive icon ?
[22:20] <mkquist> will00: whats the output of fdisk -l?
[22:21] <mkquist> will00: can u pastebin it?
[22:21] <kubuntero> dan_: Hmm>
[22:21] <kubuntero> you want one ?
[22:22] <will00> http://pastebin.com/m55c336bb
[22:22] <will00> should that have been done from a chrooted environment?
[22:22] <dan_> if I can yes ;)
[22:22] <dan_> On other distro, is there...
[22:22] <will00> http://pastebin.com/m84c1b3b
[22:23] <will00> sorry forgot i had to do that as root
[22:23] <dan_> I choose the option on desktop option, but icon not appear
[22:24] <dan_> In peripherik icons, I check harddrive mounted, and unmounted.
[22:24] <dan_> Cdrom too
[22:25] <mkquist> will00: your device.map?
[22:26] <dan_> I will came back, i have to go...
[22:26] <dan_> thansk !
[22:27] <kubuntero> ok
[22:28] <will00> mkquist, h/o
[22:28] <mkquist> will00: ?
[22:28] <will00> im pasting it now
[22:28] <mkquist> k
[22:29] <will00> http://pastebin.com/m233de77
[22:29] <will00> there ya go
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[22:31] <mkquist> will00: u have two drives flagged to be boot drives
[22:32] <mkquist> whats kubuntu use to partition drives?
[22:32] <kubuntero> mkquist: You mean what does it use ?
[22:32] <_Coggz_> anyone know how to get an intel microphone to work with alsa?
[22:32] <noaXess> mkquist: fdisk..
[22:32] <kubuntero> or what is it's use in partitioning drives?
[22:33] <noaXess> mkquist: or qtparted
[22:33] <mkquist> will00: open ur partition editor and unflagged hdb1 and set (hd1,0) back in grub and give it a go
[22:33] <mkquist> will00: *unflag
[22:33] <will00> u mean like make it inactive?
[22:34] <mkquist> will00: like dont have it flagged to be a boot partition
[22:34]  * amgine is away: homework...
[22:34] <will00> ok lemme try that
[22:36] <joaobarreiras78> hi. how do i unmute the channel mixer?
[22:37] <kubuntero> joaobarreiras78: middle click on kmix
[22:37] <joaobarreiras78> what is kmix?
[22:37] <joaobarreiras78> where can i find it on the pc?
[22:38] <SlimeyPete> kmix is the little speaker icon in the system tray
[22:38] <kubuntero> joaobarreiras78: the sound volume icon in the system tray
[22:38] <joaobarreiras78> ahh ok
[22:39] <joaobarreiras78> but isnt there a way that i use "alsa mixer" or oss mixer ?
[22:39] <joaobarreiras78> that is in the console
[22:40] <SlimeyPete> you can run "alsamixer" in a terminal
[22:40] <joaobarreiras78> lol
[22:40] <joaobarreiras78> thnkx
[22:40] <joaobarreiras78> =)
[22:41] <joaobarreiras78> to unmute is the 'u' key right?
[22:41] <DarkestHour> joaobarreiras78: the konsole also has auto completion that you may find usefull, try typing alsa and pressing tab once or twice it'll let you list applications in the path.
[22:42] <SlimeyPete> joaobarreiras78: "m" I think
[22:42] <DarkestHour> SlimeyPete: is correct, it's m
[22:43] <rootlinuxusr> i feel dirty... i'm vbox'ing windows 98... =/
[22:44] <DarkestHour> lol, you should!
[22:44] <rootlinuxusr> meh just want to have them to say i have them?
[22:44] <rootlinuxusr> nah, website testing...
[22:45] <DarkestHour> i vbox winxp. i have to due to most of my clients running xp.
[22:45] <rootlinuxusr> yeah i have xp too
[22:45] <_Coggz_> i have xp on my other laptop, just because...
[22:45] <rootlinuxusr> So I can help the nublets that always come calling "fix my computer...."
[22:45] <DarkestHour> yeah, lol
[22:46] <_Coggz_> your one of them dudes...
[22:46] <rootlinuxusr> i feel really dirty though, I'm too lazy to erase the other half of this kubuntu dual-boot...shitza
[22:47] <_Coggz_> lol
[22:48] <rootlinuxusr> though i never use it.
[22:48] <rootlinuxusr> just too lazy xD
[22:48] <_Coggz_> lol,
[22:48] <_Coggz_> i have a whole hd full of Win ME
[22:49] <rootlinuxusr> and I thought I was bad... xD
[22:50] <joaobarreiras78> i am having problems with my sound and i follow some instrucions and that did installed on my pc a bunch of things (alsa driver, lib, utils) and in the end of installacion it say that i needed to unmute some channels (i dont know were but i thing it was on alsa mixer or oss mixer) because they were MUTED by default after installation.
[22:50] <joaobarreiras78> how do i do that?
[22:50] <joaobarreiras78> need some help. me = newbie
[22:51] <_Coggz_> what, un mute?
[22:51] <rootlinuxusr> it should be in kmixer if you are using kubuntu
[22:51] <joaobarreiras78> yes, i think i need to unmute some channels
[22:51] <rootlinuxusr> the thing that looks like a pc speaker in the top right
[22:51] <rootlinuxusr> ish
[22:51] <_Coggz_> yes, look for the speaker icon on the sytem tray
[22:51] <joaobarreiras78> im in ubuntu
[22:51] <_Coggz_> ask in ubuntu
[22:52] <joaobarreiras78> ok
[22:52] <_Coggz_> whoa... thats freaky... i have nohash key
[22:52] <joaobarreiras78> its only that?
[22:52] <rootlinuxusr> are you sure it's ubuntu?
[22:52] <rootlinuxusr> do you see a 'k' menu?
[22:52] <rootlinuxusr> or programs, administration, etc
[22:53] <jhise> Joa...through the speaker icon, you can usually get to an additional interface with all the tracks.
[22:53] <jhise> You will see things like Main and PCM. Those should not be muted and turned up.
[22:54] <jhise> It's a matter of you getting to this interface though. Depending on your distribution, it's a little different.
[22:54] <_Coggz_> i have no hash key!!!
[22:54] <_Coggz_> it comes up as backsplash
[22:54] <_Coggz_> slash
[22:54] <jhise> Dood Ihave your hash key.
[22:54] <jhise> And I want 1 million dollars
[22:54] <rootlinuxusr> nah weezer does
[22:54] <_Coggz_> this is no joke, although i do have 1 million dollars
[22:54] <rootlinuxusr> they just call it a pipe
[22:54] <jhise> heh
[22:55] <_Coggz_> \\
[22:55] <_Coggz_> \
[22:55] <jhise> Man I have no idea how one loses their has key.
[22:55] <rootlinuxusr> #
[22:55] <rootlinuxusr> i has it
[22:55] <_Coggz_> no, it has the hash on the keyboard
[22:55] <jhise> Except that maybe you managed to switch to Korean or something.
[22:55] <jhise> lol
[22:55] <jhise> hahahaha
[22:55] <_Coggz_> no, everything else is fine
[22:55] <_Coggz_> ""@2
[22:55] <_Coggz_> no,
[22:55] <rootlinuxusr> #
[22:55] <_Coggz_> maybe not
[22:58] <_Coggz_> #
[22:58] <_Coggz_> ##
[22:58] <_Coggz_> ###
[22:58] <_Coggz_> ####
[22:58] <_Coggz_> #####
[22:58] <rootlinuxusr> ######
[22:58] <_myrtille_> you're having fun :)
[22:58] <_Coggz_> ########
[22:58] <_Coggz_> YAY
[22:58] <_myrtille_> can i play, too? ;)
[22:58] <_Coggz_> #i never knew how fun hash was (i dont mean the drug)
[22:58] <_Coggz_> #####
[22:58] <_Coggz_> ###
[22:59] <_Coggz_> join me in the channel ##
[23:00] <_Coggz_> it is teh hash channel
[23:01] <will00> mkquist, no dice still, i had dinner too
[23:01] <_Coggz_> no dice?
[23:03] <mkquist> will00: hmm same error?
[23:05] <mkquist> will00: uknow i just assumed that the 80 gig is where u installed kubuntu is that correct?
[23:05] <will00> yea it is
[23:05] <mkquist> will00: hmm, then id try reinstalling grub, easy enough to do...
[23:06] <will00> i do know that if i manually configure the drives, i get to a grub menu
[23:17] <mkquist> will00: what do u mean manually configure drives?
[23:18] <will00> in the kubuntu installation program, u have the option of either using a default, a guided setup, or you can manually partition them
[23:19] <mkquist> oh ic
[23:19] <will00> well lemme reboot and see if that worked
[23:19] <mkquist> kk
[23:23] <Datz> Hello, I am try to install on a kubuntu powerpc on a mac
[23:24] <Datz> I don't have enough ram to load the live portion
[23:24] <Datz> so tried "live-nosplash"
[23:25] <SlimeyPete> is there a powerpc alternate CD?
[23:25] <SlimeyPete> the x86 alternate CD includes a text-based installer.
[23:27] <cyka> yo
[23:27] <cyka> who's alive
[23:27] <Datz> after I load "live-nosplash" that gets me to (initramfs) command like  "build-in Shell"
[23:27] <Datz> how can I install from there?
[23:28] <cyka> anyone know how to make the desktop animated under kde 3..5?
[23:28] <cyka> done it once before but only by mistake
[23:28] <cyka> and also why it forgets what my desktop is
[23:30] <Datz> I need help to install Kununtu on my old imac with 64MB of ram
[23:30] <Datz> I have the powerpc distro cd loaded
[23:30] <nonewmsgs> datz are you sure?
[23:31] <Datz> yes
[23:31] <Datz> I was informed that I don't have enough ram to run the live portion
[23:31] <Datz> so, I just want to install
[23:31] <nonewmsgs> Datz:  you dont have enough ram to run kubuntu very well
[23:32] <Datz> I see
[23:32] <nonewmsgs> datz i would advise sometihng more like damn small linux
[23:32] <Datz> well, is there any other distro you can think of that will work better?
[23:32] <Datz> ah
[23:32] <Datz> lol, ok thx I will look into it
[23:32] <nonewmsgs> i mean if you insisit we will certainly help you
[23:32] <nonewmsgs> and if you need help with that ill help with that too
[23:33] <Datz> cool thx
[23:33] <Datz> well, I don't see a power pc port for DSL
[23:34] <Datz> or Damn Small Linux*
[23:34] <Datz> so I would like to install Kubuntu
[23:34] <Datz> nonewmsgs, restarting going to boot to Kubuntu cd
[23:35] <nonewmsgs> ok
[23:35] <znoG_> hey, anyone know if there is a way to find out how a particular package in the gutsy repository was built? i want to upgrade a package from source and i want to use the same configure line and do the post-steps manually on it.
[23:36] <nonewmsgs> i know you can download source in synaptic
[23:36] <Datz> nonewmsgsok, ok I get text indicating this is Kubuntu live CDROM, default option is live...
[23:36] <Datz> how do I install without booting to live portion?
[23:36] <dwidmann> Datz: unless its the dvd, you don't
[23:37] <Datz> dwidmann, humm, so I can't install it on this pc if it dosn't have a DVD ROM
[23:37] <Datz> if I can
[23:37] <Datz> can't boot to live?
[23:37] <dwidmann> Datz: well, you could use the alternate cd also
[23:38] <Datz> alternate cd...?
[23:38] <dwidmann> I slightly misread the question
[23:38] <dwidmann> the alternate cd uses a text-only installer
[23:38] <Datz> humm, ok
[23:38] <nonewmsgs> but is there an alt cd for ppc?
[23:38] <dwidmann> nonewmsgs: should be ....
[23:39]  * nonewmsgs isn't very familiar with power pcs
[23:39] <Datz> maybe I should look into DSL
[23:39] <nonewmsgs> everyone here will be glad to help you the best they can
[23:39] <dwidmann> Datz: why's that?
[23:39] <Datz> either that or Small Dog Linux
[23:40] <nonewmsgs> dwidmann: he has 64mb.  i don't even know if k would run with that
[23:40] <dwidmann> nonewmsgs: wow, I doubt that's even enough memory to run the alternate install cd very well. Go for DSL.
[23:40] <Datz> ok, there is a powerpc version of DSL?
[23:40] <nonewmsgs> there is also a #damnsmalllinux one
[23:41] <Datz> nice
[23:41] <dwidmann> livecd requires like 192MiB of RAM minimum .... forget how much the alternate requires but it's more like 96 MiB or something
[23:41] <dwidmann> it'll do it with less it'll just take a really long time
[23:42] <Datz> humm , so still won't work for me I guess
[23:42] <Datz> plus I would rather have something that runs decently fast
[23:42] <nonewmsgs> how much differnet are power pcs?  i mean aren't they supposed to be able to run windows?
[23:42] <dwidmann> nonewmsgs: no, the new macs use intel procs
[23:43] <nonewmsgs> i remember using windows95 (maybe 98) on one of those big blue macs and i thuoht they were power pcs
[23:43] <cyka> so would any one like to vaulenteer some help?
[23:43] <cyka> the G3?
[23:44] <cyka> aall the G series of CPU were essnetia;lly powerpc's
[23:44] <SlimeyPete> nonewmsgs: neither win95 nor 98 ever ran on mac
[23:44] <SlimeyPete> though I imagine there were/are x86 daughterboards available
[23:45] <nonewmsgs> SlimeyPete: it might have been some kind of virtual machine
[23:45] <nonewmsgs> SlimeyPete: but it definitely ran it
[23:45] <SlimeyPete> probably via a daughterboard then
[23:45] <nonewmsgs> SlimeyPete: virtualpc i think was it
[23:45] <SlimeyPete> ah, virtualpc
[23:46] <SlimeyPete> yeah that's been around a while.
[23:46] <cyka> anyone?
[23:46] <nonewmsgs> htf do you disable usb device not recognized nags from windows
[23:46] <cyka> jesus... i ask for help and no one offers it....
[23:46] <rickest> I went one better and disabled windows, period
[23:47] <nonewmsgs> cyka what was your question
[23:47] <cyka> how do u make the desktop aanimated under KDE 3.5
[23:47] <cyka> i've done it once before by mistake
[23:47] <IIGGOORR> hi, i have folowing line in grub "kernel /boot/vmlinuz vga=normal ramdisk_size=14972 root=/dev/rd/0 rw –", but on boot i have an error "unable to mount"
[23:48] <cyka> and also how do i make it remember my desktop settingfs since evry reboot i have to change the settings back to what i want
[23:48] <nonewmsgs>  cyka for the 2nd one i think it has to do with write permissions chmod your /home to 777
[23:48]  * chalcedony smiles
[23:49] <cyka> howe do u chmod?
[23:49] <nonewmsgs> cyka: to animate or deanimate K- systemsettings - look and feel (appearance)
[23:50] <cyka> been tehre
[23:50] <cyka> doesn't say much on animation tho
[23:50] <szakulec> I was trying to use isobuster, which has worked in the past, and the AppDB on winehq says it works, but when I installed it now, it can't find the CD drive
[23:51] <nonewmsgs> szakulec: you dont need isobuster
[23:52] <Boohbah> szakulec: burning CDs with windows apps on wine?
[23:52] <Boohbah> why?
[23:52] <chalcedony> my husband has KDE gutsy, i have ubuntu feisty, we are trying to share
[23:52] <chalcedony> a printer. I had it working for my computer, but whatever he did
[23:52] <chalcedony> disabled it. he wants me to get the kde control module, instead of
[23:52] <chalcedony> what i have on gnome. will that work, also can i download that with command line, apt-get?
[23:52] <nonewmsgs> szakulec: the command dd makes an iso and you can mount it like a drive
[23:52] <chalcedony> sigh
[23:53] <chalcedony> my husband has KDE gutsy, i have ubuntu feisty, we are trying to share a printer. I had it working for my computer, but whatever he did disabled it. he wants me to get the kde control module, instead of what i have on gnome. will that work, also can i download that with command line, apt-get?
[23:54] <algyz> !printing | chalcedony
[23:54] <ubotu> chalcedony: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[23:54] <IIGGOORR> can anybody explain what is /dev/rd (i suppose ram disk?)? and why  may proplems with mounting appear?
[23:56] <chalcedony> algyz: ty, i have System Administration Printing Printers Properties open.. it prints the test page but won't print anything else.
[23:56] <cannon> hey guys ... i keep getting errors when trying to extract an archive ... any ideas?
[23:56] <algyz> cannon:  what kind of errors?
[23:56] <swatto> Anyone got experience with setting up world of warcraft?
[23:57] <cannon> "extraction operation failed"
[23:57] <nonewmsgs> chalcedony: interesting.  even something like a kate document (i forgot what the gnome version is)
[23:58] <algyz> nonewmsgs:  in gnome it's gedit :)
[23:58] <nonewmsgs> algyz: yes that's it
[23:58] <cannon> whats an alternative to Ark?
[23:58] <algyz> cannon:  try tar
[23:58] <nonewmsgs> chalcedony: try to print something in gedit like a sentence or two
[23:58] <chalcedony> hmm
[23:59] <chalcedony> i'll try a2ps
[23:59] <algyz> cannon:  also look into output of "apt-cache search archiver"