[00:01] <ahoneybun> clivejo: got k-w-s to make a source.changes file and letting LP try to build now
[00:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[00:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[00:07] <clivejo> ahoneybun: can I remove that repo and import the bzr branch
[00:09] <ahoneybun> should work
[00:10] <ahoneybun> mm LP is still not building
[00:10] <clivejo> I would rather keep the old history
[00:10] <clivejo> can I delete it?
[00:10] <ahoneybun> where I put it?
[00:10] <clivejo> yes
[00:10] <ahoneybun> guess so
[00:10] <clivejo> Ill delete it and recreate it
[00:10] <ahoneybun> I got it on my PPA now
[00:10] <ahoneybun> or thought
[00:12] <ahoneybun> is there any way to tell if the build machines are off?
[00:12] <wxl> kind of
[00:12] <ahoneybun> https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-zetsy/+packages
[00:12] <ahoneybun> I see no progress there
[00:12] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/builders
[00:13] <ahoneybun> mm nothing to building from me
[00:13] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-zetsy/+build/11954124
[00:13] <wxl> it's scheduled to start in about 30 mins
[00:14]  * ahoneybun wonders how you found that
[00:14] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-zetsy/+packages
[00:14] <wxl> look on the line for kubuntu-web-shortcuts
[00:14] <wxl> look over on the right column
[00:14] <wxl> "build status"
[00:14] <wxl> click on the link "amd64"
[00:14] <ahoneybun> was not there before
[00:14] <ahoneybun> thanks wxl
[00:15] <wxl> that was created one minute ago
[00:15] <wxl> you can see it at the top
[00:15] <ahoneybun> clivejo: I'll see if that builds and try it out
[00:15] <ahoneybun> well it should build and work fine but still
[00:17] <clivejo> ahoneybun: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-web-shortcuts/+ref/master
[00:17] <ahoneybun> lovely
[00:18] <wxl> i'd be surprised if duck duck go didn't have bangs for all these
[00:26] <ahoneybun> mm https://launchpadlibrarian.net/304799943/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.kubuntu-web-shortcuts_17.04.0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[00:28] <wxl> it doesn't produce a binary?
[00:30] <wxl> so it creates desktop files
[00:30] <wxl> and installs them to /usr/share/kservices5/searchproviders/
[00:33] <wxl> harumph
[00:33] <wxl> go ask at #launchpad, ahoneybun. i'll babysit.
[00:50] <clivejo> seems to build if you revert this commit - https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-web-shortcuts/commit/debian/rules?id=c0f5533e82b2bfdb2efbb01e2bd58c78cbd2a030
[00:52] <wxl> um
[00:52] <wxl> actually if you download the tarball you'll find rules is missing even the dh command XD
[00:53] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-zetsy/+files/kubuntu-web-shortcuts_17.04.0ubuntu1.tar.xz
[00:56] <ahoneybun> well I removed something about kubuntu l10n
[00:58] <wxl> you removed the whole line dip doo :)
[00:58] <wxl> you still need the dh $@
[00:58] <wxl> just not dh $@ --with kubuntu-l10n
[00:58] <ahoneybun> yep fixing now
[01:01] <wxl> debhelper does all the magic
[01:02] <clivejo> hi DarinMiller
[01:03] <DarinMiller> Hi clivejo o/
[01:03] <wxl> hey hey DarinMiller
[01:03] <clivejo> how are you?
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 Haiya
[01:04] <DarinMiller> I am quite fine.  Busy day a work.  Good to be home.
[01:04] <DarinMiller> Hi wxl. :)
[01:05] <ahoneybun> E: kubuntu-web-shortcuts changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file zesty
[01:05] <ahoneybun> mm
 Ignore it
 Just ignore it
[01:06] <ahoneybun> right
[01:07] <ahoneybun> wxl: fixed it and bumped the stardards version too
[01:07] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: still kicking?
[01:07] <ahoneybun> heyo DarinMiller and tsimonq2
[01:07] <DarinMiller> Yes?
[01:07] <ahoneybun> just saying hey
[01:08] <DarinMiller> Hi ahoneybun o/
[01:08] <ahoneybun> sup \o
[01:09] <DarinMiller> Dinner here in a minute.  Thought I would check in before everybody disappeared for the night.
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[01:10]  * clivejo is about to disappear!
[01:11] <acheronuk> ok. good night clivejo
 NINI
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[01:42] <genii> Holy crap. I plugged in a large HDMI and opened Firefox there. Then closed it there. Then opened it again on my small monitor. Now the cursor is huge but only when using firefox
[01:47] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I was, but unsure of any feedback that came out of it...
[01:47] <clivejo> isnt there a tracker?
[01:48] <tsimonq2> Jeppp
[01:48] <tsimonq2> We read the tracker before release
[01:48] <tsimonq2> We note bugs in the release notes
[01:48] <tsimonq2> Then... we move on
[01:49] <clivejo> are you working on fixing the installer then?
[01:50] <tsimonq2> Huh?
[01:50] <clivejo> I thought you said earlier that you signed the Canonical agreement
[01:53] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I did. But I'm not working on anything at the moment.
[01:53] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I asked for feedback on an idea.
[01:54] <clivejo> oh ok
[02:24] <ahoneybun> success: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-packages/+build/11954443
[02:26] <ahoneybun> heyo nauticalnexus
[02:26] <nauticalnexus> hi
[02:26] <nauticalnexus> wait I've seen your name before..
[02:26] <ahoneybun> yep
[02:26] <nauticalnexus> oh my gosh
[02:26] <nauticalnexus> you're in u-w?
[02:27] <ahoneybun> ubuntu women?
[02:27] <nauticalnexus> yes!
[02:27] <ahoneybun> yea I
[02:27] <ahoneybun> I'm in there and the mailing list
[02:27] <nauticalnexus> :O
[02:27] <nauticalnexus> mailing list!?
[02:27] <ahoneybun> it's not very active
[02:27] <nauticalnexus> you're in a lot of channels I'm in
[02:27] <ahoneybun> the whole project is kinda quiet
[02:27] <ahoneybun> most likely
[02:27] <nauticalnexus> I came in here because I belieeeeeeeve this is the packaging areas
[02:28] <nauticalnexus> for the cool packaging kids
[02:28] <ahoneybun> this would be for Kubuntu packaging yes
[02:28] <nauticalnexus> does KDE Neon count? :O
[02:28] <nauticalnexus> I packaged hexchat 2.12.4 earlier today only to find out that it's in this thing called "snap"
[02:28] <ahoneybun> KDE Neon people hang in here and we hang in #kdeneon as well
[02:29] <nauticalnexus> also yeah sadly u-w is pretty quiet
[02:29] <nauticalnexus> most of the *-w projects are quiet sadly
[02:30] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:31] <nauticalnexus> but yeah I'm trrrrying my hand at package management.
[02:31] <ahoneybun> that's excellent
[02:31] <nauticalnexus> I'm always open to learning more :)
[02:31] <ahoneybun> even more excellent
[02:31] <ahoneybun> we're all over the place in timezones so
[02:31] <nauticalnexus> EST
[02:31] <ahoneybun> clivejo and acheronuk are in UK time
[02:31] <nauticalnexus> GMT -5
[02:32] <ahoneybun> I'm in EST as well
[02:32] <nauticalnexus> niece
[02:32] <nauticalnexus> nice*
[02:32] <nauticalnexus> inb4 I join my respective state for ubuntu-us-* and ur there too
[02:32] <nauticalnexus> lol
[02:32] <ahoneybun> fl?
[02:32] <nauticalnexus> ah no
[02:33] <nauticalnexus> ga
[02:33] <nauticalnexus> darn
[02:33] <ahoneybun> I'm in ubuntu-us-fl
[02:33] <nauticalnexus> wow it seems like it's pretty kickin' in ubuntu-us-fl
[02:33] <nauticalnexus> but I don't live in fl
[02:33] <ahoneybun> kickin though?
[02:33] <nauticalnexus> kickin' as in there's quite a few people in there :o
[02:34] <ahoneybun> oh yea I'm trying to bring it back
[02:34] <ahoneybun> get people on Telegram as well
[02:34] <ahoneybun> *got
[02:34] <nauticalnexus> there's only 6 in mine
[02:34] <nauticalnexus> well 5+1(1 is me)
[02:34] <ahoneybun> not a lot are active in the IRC
[02:34] <ahoneybun> most chat is coming from the Telegram bridge
[02:34] <nauticalnexus> and the website is down lol
[02:35] <nauticalnexus> you can buy the domain!
[02:35] <ahoneybun> ubuntu-ga ?
[02:35] <nauticalnexus> ubuntu-georgia.org
[02:35] <ahoneybun> I bought ubuntu-fl.org
[02:36] <nauticalnexus> :o
[02:36] <ahoneybun> got wordpress running on a linode there
[02:37] <nauticalnexus> that's neat
[02:37] <nauticalnexus> idk how to do web servers so
[02:37] <nauticalnexus> but I'm here for packaging
[02:37] <nauticalnexus> :P
[02:38] <ahoneybun> yepo
[02:38] <nauticalnexus> so I'm very noob at this
[02:38]  * tsimonq2 is CST
[02:38] <nauticalnexus> :o
[02:38] <ahoneybun> still here tsimonq2?
[02:39] <tsimonq2> I *used* to be the leader for ubuntu-us-wi but I got burned out
[02:39] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: Yepppp
[02:39] <nauticalnexus> anarchy
[02:39] <nauticalnexus> anyway yeah I'm here to learn and eventually maintain a package
[02:39] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: I am/was a Kubuntu Ninja (they took away my access after I screwed up (/o\ /o\) but I still know a lot about packaging)
[02:40] <ahoneybun> I know KDE Spectale needs a maintainer
[02:40] <tsimonq2> Mmmmmm in Ubuntu?
[02:40] <nauticalnexus> ahoneybun, oh I was thinking amarok
[02:40] <ahoneybun> amarok is quite a big package
[02:40] <nauticalnexus> I have 8 threads
[02:40] <nauticalnexus> 16GB RAM
[02:40] <nauticalnexus> that enough?
[02:40] <tsimonq2> valorie is our amarok expert I believe :)
[02:40] <nauticalnexus> I know ^^
[02:40] <tsimonq2> (she is PST, should be lurking somewhere...)
[02:41] <ahoneybun> might be having dinner
[02:41] <nauticalnexus> I've met her before
[02:41] <nauticalnexus> innn kubuntu-offtopic
[02:41] <ahoneybun> yep your in the Kubuntu Offtopic Telegram too
[02:41] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: I have 16 GB of RAM and a 6 core processor on my machine, and it kicks a$$. :)
[02:41] <nauticalnexus> indeed I am
[02:41] <tsimonq2> So PLENTY
[02:41] <nauticalnexus> I have an i7 :o
[02:41] <tsimonq2> I have an older AMD processor :P
[02:41] <tsimonq2> But luckyyyyyyyy
[02:41] <nauticalnexus> nice
[02:42] <nauticalnexus> eh, it's from 2012
[02:42]  * ahoneybun has an 1st gen AMD APU A6
[02:42] <ahoneybun> soooo ollddddd
[02:42] <nauticalnexus> my spex are nice tbh
[02:42] <nauticalnexus> i7 3770, 16GB DDR3, 480GB SSD, AMD R9 390 :o
[02:42] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: If you want to learn packaging, I can get you started on the 100 page prerequisite reading XD
[02:42] <nauticalnexus> lolwut
[02:43] <tsimonq2> (noo I think it's more like 30, quick, easy pages...)
[02:43] <nauticalnexus> I've built packages before
[02:43] <nauticalnexus> (mostly kernels with make deb-pkg >.>)
[02:44] <nauticalnexus> but I wanna like.. do something that isn'thexchat or a kernel :P
[02:44] <nauticalnexus> but yeah I wanna take over packaging for amarok. Whenever it gets its new release :o
[02:45] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: Become familiar with the Debian Policy Manual: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
[02:45] <nauticalnexus> Holy
[02:45] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: You should know that I'm the living manifestation of Lintian. :P
[02:45] <tsimonq2> *pulls out sword* be careful!
[02:45] <tsimonq2> (loljk)
[02:45] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: All easy stuff though
[02:47] <nauticalnexus> a lot of thingies
[02:50] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: This too: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
[02:50] <nauticalnexus> oh my god
[02:51] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: As soon as you've taken the time to read those and bookmark them, come back and you can be very very quickly assimilated. All you have to do is read the things and come back and ping clivejo acheronuk and say "where can I help?"
[02:52] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: Because if you understand that, you're kewl :3
 Growls @tsimonq2
[02:52] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: If you have questions, ask, but this right here is the toughest part of all
[02:52] <tsimonq2> @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie Did I wake you?
 Yes!
[02:53] <tsimonq2> Ok sorry go sleepy time nini
[02:53] <nauticalnexus> bookmark those.. for later
[02:53] <nauticalnexus> :P
[02:53] <tsimonq2> Hehehehehehe :P
[02:53]  * nauticalnexus just wants to chill and watch poodiepie get the pants scared off of him
[02:54] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: If you want to see an application of any of those package processes, go `apt source` your favorite package
[02:54] <tsimonq2> nauticalnexus: Ok go ahead ;)
 Poodiepie?
[02:54] <nauticalnexus> PewDiePie
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/kkuCCWuR/file_1875.webp
 XD
 I have no idea what you are talking about
[02:57] <tsimonq2> Really popular guy that makes YouTube videos. 52,000,000+ subscribers.
 Mmmkay
 Go. To. Sleep!
 I'm having a nightmare
 I can't wake up
[03:02] <tsimonq2> hahahahahahahahaha
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[08:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[08:51] <nauticalnexus> hewwo
[08:51] <nauticalnexus> that is.. a lot.. where is that coming from
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[08:54] <yofel> looks like timeouts mostly o.O
[08:54] <nauticalnexus> :o
[08:54] <nauticalnexus> the IRC Relay service is ded
[08:54] <nauticalnexus> for Telegram
[08:56] <nauticalnexus> oh wait
[08:56] <nauticalnexus> ...this isn't kubuntu-offtopic..
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[08:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[08:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[08:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[09:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[09:48] <mparillo> clivejo: You were asking about Alpha 2 bugs? I put them in the testing tracker and some notes that I did not think merited bugs.
[09:55] <mparillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1627348
[09:55] <mparillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1659448
[09:55] <mparillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1625595
[09:56] <mparillo> Plus when I clicked on the links during the slide show, nothing happened.
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[11:25]  * clivejo wonders is there a way to tell autotests to use all-proposed in the first place
[11:26] <acheronuk> not sure. I think the test specification is a debian thing, and they don't have a 'proposed' as we do
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[12:16] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[13:34] <acheronuk> yofel: seems we need to have both kirigami (v1.1) and kirigami2 in the archive. some packages still need the v1 and won't work with v2, and plasma-discover requires v2 in 5.9
[13:35] <yofel> no idea how you multi-version a QML module. Esp. as the paths don't look versioned
[13:35] <acheronuk> neon have a new kirigami2 packaging repo and hence do debian
[13:36] <yofel> and upstream made non-conflicting binaries?
[13:36] <acheronuk> kde kirigami src repo master is now kirigami2 and the have shifted 1.1 to a branch
[13:37] <acheronuk> yes, neon has both versions
[13:37] <yofel> I mean, there's generally nothing wrong with having it twice (see baloo, konsole..), so as long as it works go ahead?
[13:37] <acheronuk> my Q was......
[13:38] <acheronuk> to keep KCI building v2 master we need to keep our repo as plane kirigami
[13:39] <acheronuk> so, for 1.1 I think clone and copy the repo to one named kirigami1 so that is there for bugfixs to that version
[13:42] <yofel> hm..
[13:42] <acheronuk> yofel: or are the KCI exceptions for repo names working?
[13:42] <yofel> well
[13:43] <yofel> from what I saw in the code, they should be working, I just had nothing to test them with. All you should need is figure out the pattern to match the repo in question
[13:44] <acheronuk> ok. making a kirigami2 repo as a clone and trying to get KCI to build from KDE master should be fairly non-destructive if it doesn't work. so can have a try with that later
[13:49] <acheronuk> ci-tooling/data/overrides/base.yam ?
[13:50] <acheronuk> s/yam/yaml
[13:52] <yofel> should be that, IIRC I posted what I thought should be the correct pattern here around christmas ^^
[13:53] <yofel> hm, I wonder how that upstream lookup code I wrote would deal with misnamed repositories. Probably not at all :/
[13:53]  * acheronuk goes to look for pattern
[13:59] <acheronuk> [13:11] <yofel> e.g. if you look at
[13:59] <acheronuk> [13:11] <yofel> '*{debian.org,packaging.neon}*/frameworks/prison':
[13:59] <acheronuk> [13:11] <yofel>   '{kubuntu_unstable,Neon/unstable}':
[13:59] <acheronuk> [13:11] <yofel>     upstream_scm:
[13:59] <acheronuk> [13:11] <yofel>       branch: frameworks
[13:59] <acheronuk> [13:11] <yofel> this should be possible
[13:59] <acheronuk> [13:12] <yofel> maybe '*{git.launchpad.net}*/<pkg>' would actually work
[14:03] <yofel> it might have to be the full repo namspace. E.g. /kubuntu-packag....+git/<pkg>
[14:04] <yofel> unless the wildcard takes care of that
[14:04] <acheronuk> '*{git.launchpad.net}*/kirigami2':
[14:04] <acheronuk>   '{kubuntu_unstable,Neon/unstable}':
[14:04] <acheronuk>     upstream_scm:
[14:04] <acheronuk>       url: git://anongit.kde.org/kirigami.git
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[14:09] <acheronuk> LP is still not well!
[14:11] <acheronuk> and builder are still clearing backlogs from last night
[14:16] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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[14:40] <cyphermox> clivejo: packageset is updated.
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[14:45] <blaze> as I see FW5.30 are partly here
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[14:52] <cyphermox> clivejo: I kind of wonder why it is that konqueror was split out of baseapps, was that done upstream or in Debian too?
[14:52] <cyphermox> (this applies to other things than just konqueror actually)
[14:54] <acheronuk> cyphermox: yes, kde spit some sources that previously made multiple apps from one source
[14:54] <cyphermox> ok, I couldn't find that on download.kde.org
[14:54] <cyphermox> my concern is that splitting in Ubuntu is kind of wrong if it's not coming from upstream; it just increases the amount of work to be done for everyone
[14:54] <acheronuk> cyphermox: https://community.kde.org/Applications/16.12_Release_Notes#Tarballs_that_we_have_split
[14:55] <cyphermox> that's cool
[14:55] <cyphermox> so that's why they're all also the same version number?
[14:56] <acheronuk> cyphermox: yes, they remain a part of the KDE 16.x application release as a whole, but just separate sources within that
[14:57] <cyphermox> cool
[14:57] <cyphermox> then I have another question, which is relevant to the review of the new sources
[14:57] <cyphermox> is there still such a thing as KDE 4 ?
[14:57] <acheronuk> cyphermox: it mildly confusing for us! ;)
[14:58] <cyphermox> or are we now talking about 16.x and whatnot?
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[14:59] <cyphermox> the reason for this is that if we strictly speak of 16.x and eventually 17.x; then you might want to not have a 4: epoch in your packages since you're splitting things up in new sources (which gives you a way to get rid of it, there isn't otherwise). epochs tend to be confusing and troublesome.
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[15:00] <cyphermox> but hey, I'm not the person to do the NEW review, so it's just my opinion, you're free to do what you want :)
[15:00] <acheronuk> cyphermox: they have a been slowly porting KDE applications away from KDE4libs/Qt4 to KF5/Qt5, while versioning the apps release as a whole as 15.x, then 16.x etc
[15:01] <acheronuk> cyphermox: the epochs are a thorn in our side as well, so be assured we are dropping them whenever we legitimately and safely can
[15:09] <cyphermox> acheronuk: konqueror (and others in the NEW queue) look like good candidates, IMO
[15:09] <cyphermox> there's really no other way you can drop it than source renames or splits.
[15:11] <clivejo> acheronuk: Lukasz has rerun the script and I can now upload krita, but not prison-kf5
[15:12] <clivejo> think thats in the new queue
[15:13] <acheronuk> clivejo: no, that was rejected so we still need a MOTU to upload it
[15:13] <acheronuk> I think?
[15:14] <clivejo> nope, its in the archive
[15:14] <clivejo> just very old
[15:14] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prison-kf5
[15:14] <clivejo> my upload was rejected due to upload permissions
[15:15] <acheronuk> oh, yes
[15:16] <acheronuk> libkf5prison-dev is in our supported seed
[15:16] <clivejo> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.zesty/view/head:/supported
[15:16] <clivejo> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.zesty/view/head:/supported#L258
[15:17] <clivejo> $ ubuntu-upload-permission prison-kf5
[15:17] <clivejo> You can not upload prison-kf5 to zesty, yourself.
[15:17] <clivejo> But you can still contribute to it via the sponsorship process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[15:17] <clivejo> To see who has the necessary upload rights, use the --list-uploaders option.
[15:17] <clivejo> any ideas why that didnt get added?
[15:18] <acheronuk> currently libkf5prison-dev in the arcive belongs to source 'prison-kf5', so AFAIK it should have been?
[15:19] <clivejo> so weird, I thought by running the script we'd get access to upload that, but seems not :/
[15:20] <acheronuk> cyphermox: can that be manually added?
[15:21] <cyphermox> acheronuk: the process is normally that things are landed and added to the seed
[15:22] <acheronuk> cyphermox: that source is already there in the archive
[15:22] <cyphermox> anything done manually always has the risk of being dropped by mistake or not dropped when it should be.
[15:23] <acheronuk> cyphermox: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prison-kf5
[15:24] <acheronuk> cyphermox: produces libkf5prison-dev, which is what out script added to our supported seed
[15:25] <acheronuk> so the script should have added the source 'prison-kf5'
[15:25] <acheronuk> but did not
[15:25] <clivejo> cyphermox: do you know any MOTU who are knowledgeable about KDE and willing to help us upload new packages?
[15:28] <clivejo> acheronuk: any ideas on how to sort out this krita mess?
[15:28] <acheronuk> what mess?
[15:30] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krita/1:3.1.1+dfsg-1build1
[15:30] <clivejo> totally out of sync with LP git
[15:31] <acheronuk> I'm sure it's sortable, but may be a faff
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[15:33] <clivejo> sync zesty_archive branch with archive (NOCI), push, and then merge unstable into zesty_archive?
[15:33] <clivejo> and try and fix the merged mess
[15:34] <acheronuk> does our packaging build on those filing architectures?
[15:34] <acheronuk> *failing
[15:38] <acheronuk> I would say merge zesty_archive with debian, as that is what is basically there now. then sync remaining changes (rebuild changelog message etc) form archive package
[15:39] <acheronuk> then see what changes are needed to make it build on those arches
[15:39] <yofel> only if your packaging takes care of disabling opengl on arm*
[15:40] <acheronuk> yofel: we discussed it the other day, but I don't recall if we (clive) made changes in ours as a result
[15:45] <clivejo> weird
[15:45] <clivejo> $ ubuntu-upload-permission prison
[15:45] <clivejo> You can upload prison to zesty.
[15:46] <acheronuk> the old one, yes
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[16:19] <santa_> good afternoon everyone
[16:20] <acheronuk> santa_: who are you?
[16:20] <acheronuk> lol
[16:20] <acheronuk> ok. Hi :)
 Did you bring us presents?
[16:21] <santa_> not yet, trying to catch up to resume my help here
 I was making a Santa joke. :P
[16:22] <blaze> I guess that sledge crush wasn't so bad
[16:24] <acheronuk> santa_: well, a lot has been going on.
[16:25] <santa_> I see, just updated the remote of ka, I'm building fw 5.30 to see possible autopkgtollings
[16:25] <santa_> * autopkgtrollings
[16:26] <clivejo> hi santa_, did you ever get to the bottom of autotests failing on gpgme?
[16:26] <santa_> yes, they were 3 separate problems iirc
[16:27] <santa_> 1. it was failing to build because of compiler flags given
[16:27] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpgme1.0/1.8.0-3ubuntu1
[16:27] <santa_> 2. there was a deadlock in all the tests, apparently because of a bad usage of python api
[16:27] <acheronuk> santa_: the autopkgtests are something I have been trying to get my head around, but I can't test in the automated way you have set up
[16:28] <santa_> 3. entropy starvation in one particular test
[16:28] <santa_> acheronuk: because it's not trivial the thing I have here
[16:29] <acheronuk> santa_: there has been some progress on gpgme, but still failures on some tests on arm and powerpc
[16:30] <santa_> ok, seems you already figured out the entropy starvation
[16:31] <santa_> I will have a look later but note that the experiments I made to get it built were @ amd64 builds
[16:31] <santa_> so the other archs failing must be a new thing I didn't see yet
[16:32] <clivejo> santa_: BTW KANG tooling has moved
[16:32] <acheronuk> yeah, I was going to try to test a git master snapshot build as a gpg dev thinks some commits there might fix one issue
[16:32] <acheronuk> santa_: and another is a Qt issue I was maybe going to ask KDE/Qt devs about
[16:32] <clivejo> santa_: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/ka/+git/kubuntu-automation
[16:33] <clivejo> and we are now working from https://phabricator.kde.org/project/profile/214/
[16:33] <clivejo> slowly moving tasks from Trello to Phab
[16:34] <santa_> ok
[16:35] <clivejo> need to go for a bit, Max is circling the car
[16:36] <acheronuk> have made a few hacks to KA to tide us over. some of which can no doubt be better
[16:37] <santa_> yes, I know we had that kubuntu-retry-builds issue
[16:37] <santa_> + the tags in epochs thing
[16:37] <genii> clivejo: I have my old N4 running now, currently downloading Android image to flash it ( right now it has whatever Ubuntu Touch was available 1.5 years ago)
[16:38] <genii> So should be able to do KDE Connect testing later today
[16:39] <acheronuk> santa_: yep, and just generally trying to keep make progress as best we can
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[16:46] <nauticalnexus> hi genii
[16:46] <nauticalnexus> I'm here for packaging
[16:46]  * genii waves to nauticalnexus
[16:47] <wxl> nauticalnexus: meaning you want to learn to package or you already do and need some direction?
[16:47] <nauticalnexus> both
[16:48] <nauticalnexus> if that makes sense
[16:48] <wxl> wait
[16:48] <nauticalnexus> I've packaged things before
[16:48] <wxl> you both know how to package and you want to learn how to package?
[16:48] <nauticalnexus> yeah I don't know all of it
[16:48] <nauticalnexus> I wanna learn MOAR
[16:48] <nauticalnexus> MOAR MOAR MOAR
[16:48] <nauticalnexus> :P
[16:48] <wxl> hm k
[16:49] <wxl> well kubuntu packages are a unique combination of upstream sources and debian packaging
[16:49]  * nauticalnexus uses KDE Neon
[16:49] <nauticalnexus> I hope that's acceptable
[16:49] <wxl> neon sort of does the same thing
[16:49] <nauticalnexus> since it's just Kubuntu with the latest KDE stuffs
[16:49] <wxl> and sometimes (but not always) they can be leaned on direct action in our realm
[16:50] <wxl> you can see our continuous integration here http://kci.pangea.pub/
[16:51] <wxl> all the sections with FIX at the end shows things that need to be worked on
[16:51] <wxl> generally you'll find th eproblems in the build logs (link marked amd64)
[16:52] <genii> nauticalnexus: There are also some pertinent videos on the subject in the podcast archiveshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ChyPPcJSMUw2au2UyIKwQ/videos
[16:52] <wxl> look at the zesty FIX stuff and you'll seem some are succeeding but show orange status. these are generally annoying lintian warnings
[16:52] <wxl> the red stuff is certainly failing
[16:53] <wxl> example: cantor
[16:53] <wxl> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/304860330/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.cantor_4%3A16.12.1+p17.04+git20170202.1214-0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[16:53] <wxl> scroll to the bottom and then up a bit and you'll see the build failed while processing debian rules
[16:53] <wxl> so you can investigate there and see why
[16:53] <nauticalnexus> I left for like 5 minutes
[16:53] <wxl> upstream code is here https://cgit.kde.org/
[16:54] <nauticalnexus> and so many links
[16:54] <wxl> aw fooey
[16:54] <wxl> just read the backlog then :)
[16:54] <nauticalnexus> lol
[16:54] <wxl> once you decide on a fix, you can grab from our git packaging on launchpad
[16:54] <nauticalnexus> wxl, honestly I'd rather bring the latest stuff to Kubuntu :O
[16:54] <wxl> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git
[16:54] <nauticalnexus> not like, linux kernel and stuff
[16:55] <wxl> i'm not talking about that
[16:55] <nauticalnexus> but like, Hexchat, Discord, etc
[16:55] <nauticalnexus> huuuuuuuuuh
[16:55] <wxl> i'm talking about kde stuff
[16:55] <wxl> that's what we deal with
[16:55] <nauticalnexus> KDE stuff?
[16:55] <nauticalnexus> Amarok is part of that yeah/
[16:55] <nauticalnexus> ?*
[16:55] <nauticalnexus> I want to package that.
[16:55] <wxl> https://cgit.kde.org/amarok.git/
[16:56] <nauticalnexus> yeah I cloned the git
[16:56] <nauticalnexus> but I wanna maintain it
[16:56] <wxl> however, i don't see it in our kci
[16:56] <wxl> valorie: do you knwo what's up with that?
[16:58] <blaze> amarok was never released as a kf5 port
[16:58] <genii> Mamarok may also know something about it
[16:58] <wxl> actually according to the downloads page, it's up to date in zesty
[16:59] <wxl> of course that last release is from 2013 :O
[16:59] <nauticalnexus> yeah
[16:59] <wxl> so you mind want to go complain to amarok about that
[16:59] <nauticalnexus> I know the story about it
[17:00] <nauticalnexus> development is "stalled"
[17:00] <wxl> then i wouldn't bother with it
[17:00] <wxl> but if you really want to make it available, i'd suggest packaging it into a ppa
[17:01] <wxl> or you could worry about the stuff that we actually work on XD
[17:02] <nauticalnexus> I do worry about amarok. I see a lot of potential for it
[17:03] <wxl> well, the way things work for supported packages all across debian and ubuntu is that that they're based on actual releases
[17:03] <wxl> so unless you can get them to do a new release, you have nothing to even work on
[17:03] <wxl> unless you want to support it yourself
[17:03] <wxl> thus a ppa
[17:03] <nauticalnexus> I don't know C++ otherwise I'd help.
[17:03] <wxl> so
[17:04] <wxl> you could learn c++
[17:04] <wxl> or
[17:04] <nauticalnexus> yeah
[17:04] <wxl> find something else to work on :)
[17:04] <yofel> we had the beta in some PPA, might even still be somewhere. But even though they consider the 2.9 beta to be better than 2.8 release, nobody wanted to make a final release when I asked for it
[17:04] <nauticalnexus> that's stupid.
[17:04] <nauticalnexus> I see a lot of potential in that app and I want to help package it and work on i
[17:04] <nauticalnexus> it*
[17:07] <wxl> how about you try packaging the beta release and put it in a ppa?
[17:07] <wxl> that would be a good first start
[17:07] <wxl> and if you've done packaging, assumedly that should be pretty easy
[17:09] <yofel> found it: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-misc/+packages - has 2.8.90
[17:09]  * nauticalnexus still needs a tutorial up to package things
[17:09] <nauticalnexus> :o
[17:09] <yofel> well, some WIP state of it
[17:10] <nauticalnexus> I've only packaged kernels and Hexchat
[17:11] <nauticalnexus> kernel's are the same everytime, just make deb-pkg and you're done. I thought it'd be the same for normal applications :o
[17:17] <clivejo> nauticalnexus: KCI is almost like Neon
[17:17] <nauticalnexus> KCI?
[17:17] <nauticalnexus> wxl, last I heard amarok needs porting to kf5
[17:17] <clivejo> Kubuntu Continuous Integration
[17:17] <nauticalnexus> and it needs a much needed GUI overhaul :o
[17:18] <nauticalnexus> but the porting first
[17:19] <nauticalnexus> can't compile the git version :c
[17:22] <nauticalnexus> oh well that's about the extent of my knowledge with make
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[17:35] <nauticalnexus> :o
[17:38] <clivejo> hummm
[17:38] <clivejo> thats a weird error
[17:40] <yofel> looks like a repeated timeout
[17:40] <nauticalnexus> yes yes
[17:40]  * nauticalnexus wants to feel smart
[17:40] <acheronuk> :?
[17:40] <clivejo> LP has been very slow for me this past few days
[17:41] <acheronuk> not really got back to normal after the 'firewall maintenance' last night either
[17:41] <nauticalnexus> lol
[17:42] <nauticalnexus> I hate distros that include a firewall
[17:42] <nauticalnexus> like.. my router does that for me, don't do dat
[17:43] <yofel> we also include a firewall by default, it's just set to accept everything by default ^^
[17:43] <nauticalnexus> ooooohhh
[17:43] <nauticalnexus> I used Fedora and
[17:44] <nauticalnexus> the fact that I had to either jump through hoops or
[17:44] <clivejo> anyone have any objections to me taking KCI offline for a bit when the queue clears to do an update?
[17:44] <nauticalnexus> disable the firewall altogether to get STEAM IN HOME STREAMING WORKING
[17:44] <nauticalnexus> really upset me
[17:44] <nauticalnexus> and that is why I don't use Fedora
[17:46] <clivejo> nauticalnexus: have you used version control for packaging before?
[17:46] <acheronuk> clivejo: ok with me
 clivejo: No objections here m8
[17:46] <nauticalnexus> clivejo, have I used what and who
[17:47] <clivejo> which do you prefer?
[17:47] <nauticalnexus> me?
[17:47] <clivejo> yes
[17:47] <nauticalnexus> I just followed this clivejo http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html :o
[17:48] <clivejo> have you used bzr or git before for packaging?
[17:48] <nauticalnexus> git I've installed stuff from, cloning the repo and installing using make
[17:48] <nauticalnexus> bzr, noh.
[17:49] <nauticalnexus> I used it for Hexchat 2.12.4 and it worked gr8
[17:50] <clivejo> do you know where Neon, Debian and Kubuntu keep their packaging?
[17:50] <nauticalnexus> repositories?
[17:50] <nauticalnexus> :o
[17:50] <clivejo> yes, but where?
[17:50] <nauticalnexus> serrrversss?
[17:50] <clivejo> what is the URL of said servers
[17:51] <clivejo> if I asked you to get me the packaging for kate, where is it?
[17:53] <nauticalnexus> sorry my main repo server is taking eons
[17:54] <nauticalnexus> ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kate/
[17:54] <nauticalnexus> :o
[17:55] <clivejo> I mean the Version Control System (VCS)
[17:55] <nauticalnexus> huh?
[17:57] <clivejo> like Debians VCS : https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kate.git/
[17:57] <nauticalnexus> OOOOOH
[17:57] <clivejo> or KDE Neon : https://packaging.neon.kde.org/applications/kate.git/
[17:58] <nauticalnexus> okay :o
[17:58] <clivejo> or Kubuntu : https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kate
[17:59] <clivejo> anyway tea-time, back later
[17:59] <nauticalnexus> okidoki
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[18:09] <nauticalnexus> :O
[18:09] <nauticalnexus> \o/
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[22:29] <clivejo> acheronuk: so what you doing about the Japanese paper folding package?
[22:29] <acheronuk> were trainee ninjas not fixing?
[22:30] <tsimonq2> O__o
[22:30] <acheronuk> oh, the twisted one
[22:31] <clivejo> libtwisted
[22:31] <tsimonq2> hahahahahahaha
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[22:32] <wxl> origami package? man, is kde ever going off the deep end
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[22:34] <acheronuk> clivejo: or do you hint at kirigami?
[22:35] <clivejo> hinting at kirigami
[22:35] <acheronuk> sorry. being slow
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[22:38] <acheronuk> make new kirigami2 packaging repo -> update/fix it. -> add rule to  ci-tooling/data/overrides/base.yaml -> add kci job -> hope that does the trick -> if ok make archive branch, test and upload
[22:40] <acheronuk> at the moment plasma-discover is the only thing that *needs* kirigami2, which is broken for other reasons, so don't think that should stop us doing a plasma 5.9 upload
[22:42] <clivejo> !info packagekit
[22:42] <clivejo> !info packagekit unstable
[22:42] <nauticalnexus> :O
[22:43] <acheronuk> I put 1.1.5-1 in KCI ppa, did not seem to help?
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[22:50] <valorie> btw, there *is* an origami app, but not from us
[22:50] <valorie> it tries to run folding@home natively, but it didn't work for me, so I use the webapp instead
[22:50] <valorie> !info origami
[22:51] <nauticalnexus> :O
[22:52] <wxl> oh orgagami folding@home i get it! HAHAHAahahahahah..aaaaaahhh.
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[22:56] <clivejo> acheronuk: yes it works, I was looking if maybe we could sync it with debian
[22:57] <acheronuk> clivejo: ooooh. didn't when I tried when I added it. maybe something else changed in zesty to help as well
[22:57] <clivejo> There are no pictures of the apps
[22:59] <sitter> clivejo: pictures or icons?
[23:01] <clivejo> I dunno the technical word!
[23:01] <clivejo> http://imgur.com/a/XJcPo
[23:01] <clivejo> no pretty pictures!
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[23:02] <clivejo> and it wont terminate cleanly
[23:02] <sitter> clivejo: https://phabricator.kde.org/T5244 see note at the bottom
[23:03] <clivejo> so its a problem with appstream?
[23:03] <acheronuk> clivejo: you updated from KCI ppa recently?
[23:03] <clivejo> acheronuk: parts
[23:03] <clivejo> not fully
[23:03] <sitter> clivejo: the way I see it yes
[23:04] <acheronuk> seems to work here in my VM, but just doign another update now
[23:04] <clivejo> I get a Segmentation fault (core dumped) on exit
[23:04] <valorie> well that's fun
[23:05] <acheronuk> better than on start :P
[23:05] <clivejo> nope
[23:05] <clivejo> this is flagship stuff that needs to work in Zesty!
[23:05] <clivejo> and its a nasty mess right now
[23:06] <valorie> I agree
[23:06] <valorie> "flagship" is exactly right
[23:07] <acheronuk> clivejo: updated and seem to be getting icons and preview pics ok
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[23:09] <clivejo> strange
[23:09] <clivejo> what have you got that I don't?
[23:10] <acheronuk> http://i.imgur.com/TeEzUiY.png
[23:10] <sitter> a) apt update is needed to refresh appstream b) if you did not update the config to the package version you'd still get icons c) I am not actually sure appstream would drop the icons once you got em (although I should hope it does)
[23:11] <clivejo> ok, Ill do a full upgrade, I been putting it off since Simons surprise
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[23:11] <clivejo> Need to get 615 MB of archives.
[23:11] <clivejo> this could take a while :/
[23:12] <acheronuk> clivejo: it did segfault on exit though :/
[23:13] <clivejo> get a BT?
[23:14]  * clivejo add that to glossary
[23:14] <genii> clivejo: KDE Connect Monitor seems to work on regular Unity, the widget not so much
[23:14] <clivejo> widget?
[23:15] <genii> Indicvator, rather
[23:17] <genii> clivejo: The KDE Connect monitor runs OK and shows activity, but the KDE Connect Indicator attempts to load for about 10-15 seconds then closes without any message
[23:18] <clivejo> Im not sure what that means!
[23:18] <clivejo> can you browse the phone in the file manager?
[23:19] <genii> clivejo: All I've tried so far is to exchange files in both directions, that works
[23:19] <acheronuk> clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23914243/
[23:19] <genii> clivejo: Mouse control works
[23:21] <genii> Nautilus Doesn't see any location which corresponds to the phone
[23:22] <clivejo> ok cool
[23:22] <clivejo> I guess it half works then
[23:27] <genii> Maybe I'll poke around in KDE Connect Settings on the netbook ( which I haven't run yet) and see if there's anything useful
[23:27] <ahoneybun> mm Neon has 5.9
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[23:28] <genii> Meh, everything in the settings was already enabled by default except for Inhibit Screensaver
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[23:29] <clivejo> 5.9 what?
[23:29] <ahoneybun_> Plasma 5.9
[23:29]  * acheronuk is shocked
[23:29] <genii> clivejo: keyboard input also works
[23:30] <clivejo> I have Plasma 5.9 too
[23:31] <clivejo> so does Rik
[23:31] <ahoneybun_> well the archive does not
[23:31] <valorie> yey!
[23:31] <clivejo> the archive *beeps*
[23:31] <valorie> I mean, YET
[23:32] <acheronuk> ahoneybun_: well Neon already have frameworks 5.30. we did not. so made the choice to update that 1st
[23:33] <ahoneybun_> honestly the speed you guys are working at is just crazy fast
[23:33] <ahoneybun_> did not mean anything bad by that
[23:34] <acheronuk> ahoneybun_: KCI was pretty up to date, which made it fairly easy
[23:34] <clivejo> our main problem at the moment is getting it into the archive
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[23:48] <valorie> has an email been sent about that, or shall I just summarize based on the conversation in -release ?
[23:48] <clivejo> see -devel ML
[23:49] <clivejo> Rik wrote that email and I sent it
[23:49] <clivejo> but we still aren't getting anywhere on getting the NEW package accepted
[23:50] <valorie> ok
[23:50] <valorie> in general, the advice of asking in IRC, if no immediate response, write to the list -- very standard
[23:50] <valorie> all KDE projects I've seen work the same way
[23:51] <clivejo> rbasak	clivejo: IMHO, you should send that email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>There are archive admins and other sponsors on there who may be able to help, who probably don't watch devel-permissions@
[23:51] <valorie> yep
[23:51] <valorie> *everyone* reads the list, not everyone is on IRC
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[00:46] <LDG> Anyone here?
[00:47] <wxl> !ask
[00:48] <LDG> Today I realized that i hold onto old laptop for a bit too long.  I have three laptop from 2010.  In my head one works best.  It has 4GB of DDR3 and and i3.
[00:48] <LDG> The other is a 2010 HP mini laptop and a third has a intel celron processer and 4GB of DDR2 ram
[00:49] <LDG> Is lubuntu considered a light OS?
[00:49] <wxl> yep
[00:50] <LDG> It seems to run really good on my netbook.
[00:51] <LDG> I don't know if I should upgrade the DDR3/i3 laptop with an SSD or get one for my Intel Celeron / DDR2 laptop.
[00:52] <LDG> What would you suggest?
[00:52] <wxl> i'd go for the i3
[00:54] <LDG> should i abandon the one with DDR2?
[00:54] <LDG> Intel celeron
[00:54] <LDG> The netbook kinds sucks but I like to carry it at work i have to type out a statement or 2.
[00:54] <wxl> i mean you could do both but ddr is ooooold
[00:55] <wxl> and celrons can be problematic at times
[00:56] <LDG> laptops don't run on ddr anymore?
[00:59] <wxl> ddr2 i meant
[00:59] <wxl> tbh, ddr3 has gone by the wayside
[01:00] <wxl> but it's hard as heck to find ddr2
[01:02] <LDG> all this time i thought my i3 was a beast.  i hadn't stopped to think about that fact that i bought it 7 years ago.
[01:04] <LDG> would you recommend I load up lubunto on the intel celeron or should I get a heavier OS?
[01:04] <wxl> it will be hard pressed to run anything outside of lubuntu
[01:06] <LDG> thanks for you help.
[01:06] <LDG> i don't know anyone else that knows anything outside of windows.
[01:06] <wxl> that's what we're here for :)
[02:23] <ldg> need some help
[02:24] <ldg> i installed lubuntu 16.04 on a hp mini netbook but cant see wifi networks.
[02:24] <ldg> i'm new to linux. tried google but nothing seems to help.
[04:40] <Rizoman> where can i download WIfi drivers for HP Stream Notebook
[04:40] <Rizoman> i just installed Lubuntu and not able to connect to the internet
[04:40] <Rizoman> wifi drivers are not installed yet....
[08:31] <Guest4959> I've just installed lubuntu on a netbook and when I press any key it automatically brings up the log out / shut down prompt.
[08:50] <leszek> Guest4959: sounds weird. Have you tried logout and login again ?
[08:55] <Guest4959> Yeah I've done that and even reinstalled again using a pen drive. As soon as I press any key to type password it turns off.
[11:24] <mishugana> hola
[11:24] <mishugana> anybody in here?
[11:25] <hateball> yep
[11:25] <hateball> !ask | mishugana
[11:25] <mishugana> woohoo! :P
[11:26] <mishugana> Okay, so here's my question: is Lubuntu, for all means and purposes, the same as Ubuntu if I want to use it for development?
[11:27] <mishugana> My problem is this - I'm running an Ubuntu 16.04 (?) instance on my macOS using Vmware fusion, and it gets extremely hot even for moderate use
[11:27] <mishugana> I've given 4GB (tried upto 6GB) RAM and 60GB
[11:27] <mishugana> and have the usual bunch of compilers running (no heavy IDEs, just Emacs and Sublime Text at most)
[11:28] <mishugana> and I had read the Lubuntu is far more resource-friendly than Ubuntu?
[11:28] <mishugana> I know that a lot of the issues are due to Vmware fusion itself, but I'm looking for a handy distro that I can do development on, but is less resource hungry than Ubuntu
[11:28] <hateball> mishugana: the only difference is the default DE
[11:28] <mishugana> but with good support from libraries and software
[11:28] <mishugana> DE?
[11:29] <hateball> mishugana: if you already have ubuntu installed you can just apt install lubuntu-desktop
[11:29] <hateball> and then pick lubuntu as your session on login
[11:29] <hateball> it's the same kernel etc in the base
[11:29] <hateball> mishugana: Desktop Environment
[11:29] <mishugana> so, is it indeed more lightweight than Ubuntu in terms of performance?
[11:29] <hateball> your... graphical desktop etc
[11:29] <mishugana> Ah, okay... thanks
[11:29] <mishugana> and also, is it possible to install it completely headless... I don't really need the UI
[11:30] <hateball> mishugana: sure, install ubuntu server or the minimal iso
[11:30] <mishugana> Hmmm... okay... and any idea if the it's leaner on resources than base Ubuntu?
[11:31] <hateball> Ubuntu server? Of course
[11:31] <hateball> there's no X installed at all by default
[11:32] <mishugana> excellent... and it has access to the same repositories, right?
[11:33] <hateball> mishugana: yes
[11:33] <mishugana> thanks, hateball
[11:33] <mishugana> that helps! :-)