[12:28] <jolson> Lasers: I wonder what I have done to cause this. I recently installed the system and haven't been messing with the settings much at all.
[12:28] <allandee> takamarou: because, if you kind of trust a RAID setup, you trust that your data will be safe at least for the next couple of days
[12:28] <Pici> sandy1337: can you check?
[12:28] <allandee> takamarou: and that safety (which also is false) is very, very expensive
[12:28] <sandy1337> how can i chek , when i write synaptic on the terminal
[12:29] <Lasers> jolson: Preferences. You can turn it on/off. For me, I just leave it unencrypted. Connecting to Network is admin stuffs. :O
[12:29] <sandy1337> then it comes
[12:29] <Pici> sandy1337: Do you have another package currently installing?
[12:29] <allandee> takamarou: and bears the problem of a single point of failure
[12:29] <mega1> is there any way to get my network card to work
[12:29] <sandy1337> unable to get exclusive lock
[12:29] <takamarou> allandee, but doesn't a RAID provide my data two points of failure?  That's the whole point of having two disks?
[12:29] <sandy1337> yes pici i try to install half an hour ago
[12:29] <takamarou> allandee, two hard drives*
[12:30] <sandy1337> but then i disconet my internet
[12:30] <allandee> mega1: oh, sorry, I missed your messages a bit - did you get a line starting with "eth0" when you typed "ifconfig"?
[12:30] <Pici> sandy1337:  Is that install still running?
[12:30] <sandy1337> and reconnect again
[12:30] <usr13> sandy1337: reboot
[12:30] <mega1> its not there
[12:30] <sandy1337> ok usr13
[12:30] <sandy1337> let me reboot again
[12:31] <allandee> takamarou: well, one thing is that hdds from the same batch tend to fail at the same time, so if you ordered them in pairs, they are likely to fail around the same time
[12:31] <raz> allandee: stop spilling bullshit
[12:31] <jolson> Lasers: It seems that my password is never stored in the keyring at all. I even tried with unencrypted storage now. :(
[12:31] <raz> takamarou: just ignore him, your rationale is correct
[12:31] <allandee> and to keep redundancy for the one remaining disk, you need to have been informed of the problem, replace the faulty disk, and let it rebuild
[12:32] <Quantum_Ion> I have question for you how can I get power-top in Ubuntu Linux to run at start up, this is powertop it manages low power consumption mode in Ubuntu Linux -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[12:32] <raz> allandee: raid cards tend to beep when a disk fails and send scary messages
[12:32] <Lasers> jolson: :(
[12:32] <AlexDevilLX> Ubuntu SSH Web UI?
[12:33] <allandee> right, ok.
[12:33] <Pici> AlexDevilLX: What?
[12:33] <raz> allandee: in a desktop setting he will notice, and the whole same-batch issue is esoteric for a 2-disk mirror
[12:33] <allandee> that'll help.
[12:33] <takamarou> raz, There's always a devils advocate to every backup system.  I like to hear why each one sucks, whether it really does or not.  It makes me feel like I know what I'm doing
[12:33] <Quantum_Ion> My laptop usually heats up hot in Ubuntu Linux that is why I use low power mode
[12:33] <AlexDevilLX> Ubuntu SSH server that gives WEB UI client
[12:34] <allandee> raz: I will give way to that, if you can retell a tale where a 2 disk mirror saved data for someone.
[12:34] <raz> takamarou: yea, just take the fud lightly. raid is no backup, but it saves you from having to re-install all that crap after each disk-failure. raid1 for workstation is standard practice in most companies simply because it saves the admin-staff some work.
[12:34] <mega1> allandee there is no message like that
[12:34] <Quantum_Ion> How would you get this command to run at startup everytime you boot up into Ubuntu Linux->sudo -i pm-powersave true
[12:34] <raz> allandee: ehm, it happens like once a month in any mid-sized company
[12:34] <AlexDevilLX> java ssh client?
[12:35] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?
[12:35] <Quantum_Ion> http://www.lesswatts.org
[12:35] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: You could put it in /etc/rc.local
[12:35] <sandy1337> tell me now
[12:35] <allandee> mega1: hm.  I'm not quite sure where to go from there then.  your network card has a BroadCom 5750 chip, and from the Ubuntu 10.4 specs it says that the 2.6.32 kernel included there should have the drivers in them
[12:35] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: Only drop the sudo part
[12:35] <allandee> raz: tell me of one.
[12:35] <sandy1337> how to download the c/c++ , already install the package
[12:35] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, okay let me try that and see it workd
[12:36] <raz> allandee: what is there to tell?  disk fails, disk is swapped, life goes on?
[12:36] <sandy1337> usr13
[12:36] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: The command does not look right
[12:36] <sandy1337> help me
[12:36] <sandy1337> :(
[12:36] <usr13> sandy1337: With what?  Installing gcc?    sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:36] <mega1> allandee i have coloned this from one computer and put it into another does this make a difference
[12:37] <Quantum_Ion> So sudo -i pm-powersave true
[12:37] <Quantum_Ion>  > pm-powersave true
[12:37] <allandee> raz: employees are payed to do work, resulting in stored data, stored data is lost, time and value is lost.
[12:37] <allandee> this is the sort of thing you don't want to happen.
[12:37] <allandee> right?
[12:37] <sandy1337> it says gcc is already the newest version
[12:37] <AlexDevilLX> Hey, can i make SSH WEB CLIENT?
[12:37] <usr13> sandy1337: Ok, then.  What is it you need to do next?
[12:37] <raz> allandee: you're attacking a strawman. nobody claimed that raid replaces backup.
[12:37] <mega1> trying to get it to work in the new computer
[12:37] <allandee> mega1: how do you mean coloned?
[12:37] <sandy1337> how to open gcc usr13?
[12:38] <mega1> coppied
[12:38] <sandy1337> gcc is compiler?
[12:38] <mega1> cloned
[12:38] <usr13> sandy1337: What is it exactly you are wanting to do?
[12:38] <sandy1337> i want to program in my linux os
[12:38] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?
[12:38] <sandy1337> c /c++ programming in linux
[12:39] <allandee> raz: I am arguing that striping et al gives less security and higher cost than typical alternatives.
[12:39] <sandy1337> for that i need a compiler right?
[12:39] <usr13> sandy1337: Yes, gcc is GNU project C and C++ compiler
[12:39] <Incarus6> sandy1337, correct
[12:39] <raz> allandee: he was talking about mirroring, not striping
[12:39] <sandy1337> hmm now how to install this compiler on my linux machine?
[12:39] <allandee> and especially for home-setups.  the money spent are better spent in other areas  /unless/  you like tinkering with that sort of th ing.
[12:39] <usr13> sandy1337: it IS installed
[12:40] <sandy1337> now how to open this gcc?
[12:40] <raz> allandee: see, lemme pull the "old man" card. i'm doing this for a living for 10yrs. trust my judgement. :)
[12:40] <usr13> sandy1337: man gcc
[12:40] <sandy1337> i mean where i can program that interferance?
[12:40] <allandee> raz: it's just as effective, though.  striping to increase throughput, and mirroring to increase persistence.
[12:40] <raz> allandee: that's a raid10, but he has only 2 disks.
[12:40] <Pici> sandy1337: gcc is only used for compiling. If you want a program that lets you type stuff into it and compile from there you need an IDE.
[12:40] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: are we sure you want to program with gcc and not with an IDE like eclipse or codeblocks?
[12:41] <makesabe> Gelukkig heb ik nu de chat bereikt. Kan iemand me helpen met mijn printprobleem?
[12:41] <Pici> !nl | makesabe
[12:41] <sandy1337> i don't know which is better leeroory
[12:41] <sandy1337> because my teacher use turbo c++
[12:41] <mega1> if i install ubuntu onto the new computer is there a way i can get all programs and settings to the new computer
[12:41] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: get eclipse and give it a look
[12:41] <sandy1337> is there any way i can use turbo c++ on linux?
[12:41] <allandee> raz: ok.  let's not quarrel about it.
[12:42] <sandy1337> leeerooory_3 <3
[12:42] <makesabe> Okee thanks ubottu
[12:42] <lion42> ...lol
[12:42] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: not sure sorry but you may give wine a try
[12:42] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: its gonna be painful tho
[12:43] <allandee> raz: I maintain that redudant hdd setups are meaningless until you have at least 10 or so drives, and hardware support for hot-swapping them.
[12:43] <allandee> we can disagree.
[12:43] <sandy1337> leeeroooy_J i don't want to install wine
[12:43] <raz> allandee: that's nonsense.
[12:43] <sandy1337> plz tell me how to use gcc?
[12:43] <allandee> raz: that's ok.
[12:43] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: you surely dont want to use gcc you want to use an ide
[12:43] <sandy1337> i mean how can i open to program?
[12:43] <Pici> !ide | sandy1337
[12:43] <tensorpudding> what do you want to use gcc to do?
[12:43] <Incarus6> Gedit with c++ should work fine
[12:44] <sandy1337> pici !ide? what you type?
[12:44] <leeeroooy_J> lol
[12:44] <Pici> sandy1337: look at ubottu's message please.
[12:44] <sandy1337> ok pici
[12:44] <usr13> sandy1337: You already have gcc  You might need to install wine
[12:44] <usr13> sandy1337: wine is Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer
[12:44] <allandee> raz: I can't stop, fml, but: for how long a period is it ok for everything a person, organization or company produces to disappear
[12:44] <allandee> ?
[12:44] <allandee>
[12:44] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: the ide lets you build up the program, the compiler (gcc) compiles it and gets stuff done, you dont want to use gcc to program you need an ide
[12:44] <allandee> raz: where do you find that the risk/reward line goes?
[12:45] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?
[12:45] <raz> allandee: your line of reasoning is irrelevant. a desktop raid1 saves someone the hassle to re-install after most disk failures. period. that's all there is to it.
[12:45] <mega1> is there any way of cloneing ubuntu onto a new computer
[12:45] <usr13> sandy1337: vim
[12:45] <Pici> usr13: I'm not sure thats a good suggestion for a user that doesn't know what an ide is or how to use gcc.
[12:45] <sandy1337> leeeroooy
[12:45] <sandy1337> tell me
[12:46] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: what?
[12:46] <sandy1337> how can i use ide?
[12:46] <sandy1337> u said i need ide to program right?
[12:46] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: ide is a generic name you want to get eclipse, look it up on synaptic
[12:46] <allandee> mega1: i first shot is "dd if=/dev/<old partition> of=/dev/<new partition" but, at least the booting sequence is going to be shot
[12:46] <tensorpudding> sandy1337: do you know how to program?
[12:46] <sandy1337> hmm ok leeerroy_J
[12:46] <usr13> Pici: Well, good point, but would be a good place to start.  vimtutor
[12:46] <sandy1337> yeh tensorpudding
[12:47] <sandy1337> i want to do c
[12:47] <allandee> raz: ok, man, I respect your reasoning, and I think it's reasonable.
[12:47] <tensorpudding> sandy1337: well, try installing eclipse then, it has some similarity to visual c++, if that's what you're familiar with
[12:48] <raz> allandee: it's plain old math and standard practice for a reason. ;)
[12:48] <mega1> well if i install ubuntu onto new computer can i use the network to copy all programs from one to the other
[12:48] <sandy1337> leeeroooy:J
[12:48] <leeeroooy_J> mega1: not really what you want to do, if you just wanna have the same programs you can have a look at apt logs and copy them
[12:48] <allandee> raz: it's just a sour view from a guy that has seen money-spent/money-earned and flattened hackers.
[12:48] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: yeah?
[12:49] <Pici> !clone | mega1
[12:49] <Pici> !aptoncd | mega1
[12:49] <sandy1337> through synaptic i find the elipse
[12:49] <sandy1337> it was installing package file
[12:49] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: install it and have a look
[12:49] <mega1> i want to turn off old computer and just run new computer
[12:49] <sandy1337> ok
[12:49] <allandee> raz: if you involve math, I can not stop this.  ;)
[12:49] <sandy1337> leeeroooy_J you are bot?
[12:49] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?
[12:49] <lion42> mega1, can you use the same type of hard drive with the new computer as the old one?
[12:49] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: what? O.o
[12:50] <lion42> If so, you could just swap drives.
[12:50] <sandy1337> bot or any person you are leeeroooy_J?
[12:50] <mega1> no i cant
[12:50] <digital_rouge> hello
[12:50] <anadon> Hey, for someone who works for connonical, in the installer, the slide show at the end, the slide that says "Mobilise your digital life"--its supposed to be 'mobilize'
[12:50] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: last time i checked i was a person lol
[12:50] <usr13> sandy1337: No, leeeroooy_J is not a bot
[12:50] <digital_rouge> i did what the guy said now windows boreders are missing
[12:50] <sandy1337> oh lol
[12:50] <allandee> raz: ok, how about this: /I/ think it's irrational to spend time and money on popular RAID-setups with the intention of increasing probability of persistence of your data.
[12:50] <anadon> lolol
[12:50] <sandy1337> then love you leeeroooy:J
[12:50] <lion42> anadon, no, it isn't.
[12:51] <mega1> the old computer is an old dell poweredge server the new computer it a dell pc
[12:51] <allandee> and I might be wrong and all that
[12:51] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: :D
[12:51] <scuttlefish> any of you messed around with firestarter and pptp vpn connections?
[12:51] <anadon> lion42: I'm doing it now, and I googled the spelling.  its wrong.
[12:51] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I just installed 11.04 freshly on a laptop, enabling NVIDIA proprietary drivers disables unity, how can I fix unity ?
[12:51] <sandy1337> oh really you don't know this is my first try on linux
[12:51] <digital_rouge> yes i havr
[12:51] <digital_rouge> have
[12:51] <sandy1337> and you helped me :)
[12:51] <th0r> anadon: not if you are using the Queen
[12:51] <th0r> s english
[12:51] <kitche> anadon: you can spell it both ways one is UK spelling the other is American
[12:51] <marshall> hye ubuntu
[12:51] <anadon> allandee: DO YOU NOT SLEEP?
[12:51] <raz> allandee: re-imaging a workstation costs $X. swapping a disk in a workstation costs $Y. $X > $Y. simple enough? :)
[12:51] <SwedeMike> anadon: there is an english speaking world outside of the US. It's spelt with an "s" in brittish.
[12:51] <anadon> O
[12:51] <anadon> :P
[12:51] <anadon> damn brits
[12:52] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: glad i did (if it'll work)
[12:52] <digital_rouge> scuttlefish i have used fireststarter what are you up to
[12:52] <usr13> sandy1337: You should buy him a pizza  ;)
[12:52] <allandee> anadon: EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT NOT THIS DAY!
[12:52] <sandy1337> hmm lol
[12:52] <dhruvasagar> anybody? can anybody even hear me here ??
[12:52] <leeeroooy_J> usr13: why a pizza?
[12:52] <sandy1337> usr13 you are a guy?
[12:52] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, I am working off of this document - >https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[12:52] <sandy1337> or bot
[12:52] <allandee> raz: yes.
[12:52] <sandy1337> ?
[12:52] <dhruvasagar> am I on ignore ? can anyone please let me know ?
[12:52] <tensorpudding> !hello | dhruvasagar
[12:52] <tensorpudding> oh, that isn't right
[12:52] <tensorpudding> well
[12:52] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: hmmm
[12:52] <bahamas> how well do ubuntu and debian get along on the same machine?
[12:52] <sandy1337> how can i distinguish who is real person and who is bot?
[12:52] <allandee> raz:  raid-setups are really good for decreasing time spent on reconfiguring systems.
[12:52] <usr13> because I am an advocate of the pizza industry
[12:52] <sandy1337> :o
[12:52] <tensorpudding> !ask
[12:53] <cuttlefish> digital_rouge, i'm trying to get a pptp vpn connection to work with firestarter. i've posted the ip_tables code firestarter has in their documentation to make pptp work, but still nothing.
[12:53] <leeeroooy_J> usr13: just that? u sure there is no other reason?
[12:53] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: I did...
[12:53] <raz> allandee: the majority of the difference between $X and $Y is due to loss of productivity; $user has to wait until his workstation is back, whereas with raid1 he can just keep on working and some admin swaps the disk out at night.
[12:53] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, My question is I cannot get this command to run at startup boot - >pm-powersave true
[12:53] <Pici> !offtopic | everyone
[12:53] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: when I enable nvidia propietary drivers it disables unity
[12:53] <sandy1337> nice usr13
[12:53] <sandy1337> :)
[12:53] <sandy1337> don't worry when i'll get my pocket money
[12:53] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: what happens when you run it from command line?
[12:53] <bahamas> what i'm asking basically is if there's any point in having both debian and ubuntu. i first installed debian, but i realized i'm not experienced or patient enough to make everything work, so i decided to install ubuntu instead
[12:53] <S4nD3r> Hi ! How make sure my PATH includes /usr/local/cuda/bin ?
[12:53] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, I entered this in /etc/rc.local ->pm-powersave true
[12:53] <sandy1337> i'll give it to leeerooooy_J
[12:53] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: oh, didn't see it
[12:53] <sandy1337> :)
[12:53] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: did it install eclipse yet?
[12:54] <leeeroooy_J> and im not here for money nor food lol
[12:54] <bahamas> however, i'd like to learn to use debian better later on
[12:54] <sandy1337> leeroooy_J still installing package :(
[12:54] <digital_rouge> hmmm your using both linux systems or your trying to connect to windows from a linux box?
[12:54] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, Without being root I get this response -> We do not own /var/log/pm-powersave.log, refusing to overwrite.
[12:54] <sandy1337> i mean downloading
[12:54] <sandy1337> :P
[12:54] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: if you use both, there is a point to having both, right?
[12:54] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?
[12:54] <jrib> bahamas: honestly, they're extremely similar
[12:54] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: service --status-all   #See if it shows up in that list.
[12:54] <sandy1337> come on come help my love
[12:55] <petar> why did ``sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com'' import 21 signatures? (sorry, dont know much about gpg..)
[12:55] <digital_rouge> fuck 11.04 nothing but problems
[12:55] <bahamas> jrib: so i'm better off with just ubuntu for now, and i can reinstall debian later if i want to, right?
[12:55] <cuttlefish> digital_rouge, i setup a pptp server on a dd-wrt router back in america. i'm in china going over a dsl connection.
[12:55] <boolean> morning, default runtime on ubuntu is 2, correct?
[12:55] <bahamas> digital_rouge: i'm just installing it. don't discourage me
[12:55] <digital_rouge> i cant stand it
[12:55] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: sorry ?
[12:55] <jrib> bahamas: sure.  Nothing wrong with having another partition for debian, but maybe it will be easier for you to just put debian in a vbox and play with it there
[12:55] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: I didn't understand
[12:55] <jrib> !runlevel | boolean
[12:55] <bahamas> jrib: that sounds reasonable
[12:55] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: both what ?
[12:55] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, Nope only works when I run sudo -i pm-powersave true
[12:55] <digital_rouge> cuttlfish china has black boxes on  all internet connections that block alot of that stuff
[12:55] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: oh damn, sorry
[12:56] <bahamas> brb, i'm plugging the internet to the other machine
[12:56] <cuttlefish> digital_rouge, what version or distro are you using then?
[12:56] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: i started to write a response to you but i ended up writing one to bahamas
[12:56] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?
[12:56] <boolean> ubottu: how does one go about disabling a service ( via cmd line ) ?
[12:56] <digital_rouge> they regulate thier internet your probly running into a denial or fire wall
[12:56] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: did you put   pm-powesave true   in /etc/rc.local  ?
[12:56] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: i'm sorry but i'm not familiar with your problem, i can't help
[12:56] <boolean> doh!
[12:56] <cuttlefish> digital_rouge, nah. i just installed firestarter. i can connect to the server fine if i turn off the firewall.
[12:56] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, Use and I rebooted and it didn't start
[12:57] <Quantum_Ion> Quantum_Ion, I mean Yes
[12:57] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: did you install laptop-mode-tools ?
[12:57] <jrib> boolean: if it uses an old sys v init style init script, use sysv-rc-conf.  If it uses upstart, see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[12:57] <digital_rouge> im running the new version of ubuntu on my desktop, 64 bit and i enabled desktop cube now boreders are gone from all windows and they wont move on fresh install
[12:58] <digital_rouge> i tried metacity --replacer
[12:58] <boolean> thanks jrib!
[12:58] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: ls -l /etc/rc.local   #See if the executable bit is enabled.
[12:58] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: ok
[12:58] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: apparently no one is, or no one is interested in helping...
[12:58] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: this used to be a helpful place :(
[12:58] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: can you be more specific on what happens?
[12:59] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: unity breaks completely and it's reverting to legacy gnome
[12:59] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: see my pm
[12:59] <digital_rouge> do not upgrade to 11.04 the damn bar gets in the way everytime you try to click th eback button  or move your mouse to the left lol annoying
[12:59] <digital_rouge> it cannot be move cannot be changed
[12:59] <lion42> dhruvasagar, sounds like a blessing in disguise to me.
[12:59] <digital_rouge> anyway sim out lata
[12:59] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: i guess it could be compiz? what is your nvidia chipset?
[13:00] <cuttlefish> lol too late. i'm already using 11.4. the new gnome look drove me nuts. so i just set it to classic without effects.
[13:00] <cuttlefish> later
[13:00] <cuttlefish> **11.04
[13:01] <dhruvasagar> how do I restart xserver ?
[13:01] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Running gnome?
[13:01] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, Going to try this http://kenjiru.ro/blog/lucid-lynx
[13:01] <dhruvasagar> lion42: well I like unity's approach to using real estate
[13:01] <om26er> dhruvasagar, i use ctrl+sysrq+k ;)
[13:01] <dhruvasagar> usr13: yes ?
[13:01] <om26er> that would be alt :/
[13:01] <usr13> dhruvasagar: service gdm restart
[13:01] <nibbler__> why would 2 IP packets send in the same direction have the same seq/ack values? (different len and first is only ack, 2nd is ack,psh)
[13:01] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: you can open a terminal and do 'sudo service gdm restart'
[13:02] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: this halts the gnome login manager, quitting gnome, and then restarts it
[13:02] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: it'll function basically like a reboot of most of the processes on the system
[13:02] <allandee> killall -1 X
[13:04] <boolean> jrib: how does one know if they are using the old sysv or the new upstart? I have sysv config files all over but no sysv-rc-conf
[13:04] <jrib> boolean: check /etc/init*/service .  You need to install sysv-rc-conf
[13:04] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: it's not likely that that will fix unity if a simple reboot didn't fix it
[13:05] <cuttlefish> anyone else have any experience with pptp and firestarter?
[13:05] <boolean> jrib: it doesnt come by default ??  k ...
[13:05] <boolean> the init.d directory looks typical sysv
[13:05] <jrib> boolean: yes
[13:05] <boolean> no mention of the *.conf files mentioned in your link
[13:05] <jrib> boolean: that's in /etc/init
[13:06] <jrib> boolean: what are you trying to disable?
[13:06] <boolean> got it!
[13:06] <boolean> vmware
[13:06] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?
[13:06] <jrib> boolean: ok
[13:06] <usr13> boolean: You'll find not /etc/inittab file
[13:06] <boolean> it looks like the vmware server uses the old sysv format
[13:10] <sandy1337> deeeroooy_J
[13:10] <sandy1337> ?
[13:10] <sandy1337> there my love
[13:10] <sandy1337> ?
[13:10] <FloodBot1> sandy1337: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <sandy1337> ok flootbotl
[13:10] <sandy1337> :)
[13:10] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: didnt work?
[13:10] <kyle_> OK, so I can use this line mount -t cifs //cca2/users/Staff/Kyle.Wadman /media/Profile -o user=kyle.wadman <<-- To connect to my windows share. How do i put this into ftab and with the password. It dosn't seem to work..
[13:10] <sandy1337> leeeroooy_J sorry my internt disconnect
[13:10] <sandy1337> pls tell me comand again
[13:10] <allandee> ikonia?
[13:11] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: theres no command, once you install eclipse it should be in your applications
[13:11] <sandy1337> to install eclipse
[13:11] <sandy1337> i have to download eclispse first
[13:11] <leeeroooy_J> erm, you were doing it?
[13:11] <sandy1337> no i told you na my internet disconnect itself
[13:11] <leeeroooy_J> you could do it via synaptic, or i guess sudo apt-get install eclipse should do, if eclipse is the package name then yea
[13:11] <allandee> leeeroooy: yea, but I thought no-one was looking.
[13:12] <leeeroooy_J> allandee: pardon?
[13:12] <allandee> allande: c'est rien.
[13:12] <sandy1337> yeh sudo apt-get install eclipse this is comand i am looking for
[13:12] <militant> morning.  so i set tf2 to install on steam via wine last night and it seemed to be taking a while to 'create local game cache files' so i let it run and went to bed.  woke up now and it's still on that step, eating 116% cpu and getting nowhere
[13:12] <usr13> sandy1337: sduo apt-get install eclipse
[13:13] <allandee> militant: sounds like a rough morning
[13:13] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: well I had tried reconfiguring x, it asked me to restart xserver and although I know about gdm restart, didn't know they meant the same
[13:13] <Lasers> Steam & Wine? Sounds like a nice night.
[13:13] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: in any case it had completely messed up my xserver, it wasn't able to start at all, I went into recovery console removed nvidia-current and then reconfigured xserver again and rebooted
[13:14] <allandee> lasers: observing the brigther side, I like it.
[13:14] <sandy1337> usr13 i put sudo apt-get intall eclipse
[13:14] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: now unity is back to normal, but without nvidia, and I see that games are not working well they're quite slow...
[13:14] <usr13> sandy1337: did it work?
[13:14] <tensorpudding> i believe that the configuration you put into xserver probably conflicts with the nvidia driver
[13:14] <sandy1337> yeah something is start downloading
[13:14] <sandy1337> some stuff*
[13:14] <bahamas> back
[13:15] <usr13> dhruvasagar:  How did you get it messed up?  What driver are you using?
[13:15] <tensorpudding> you might want to remove you /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists, reinstall the nvidia driver and install nvidia-xconfig
[13:15] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: you just have to wait till it tells u its done or it asks "you want to continue Y N"
[13:15] <dhruvasagar> usr13: right now it's using none, just the core ones which uses onboard intel hd graphics card instead
[13:15] <sandy1337> yeh leerooy_J that ask me for y/n then i put y
[13:15] <sandy1337> and hit enter
[13:15] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: that's what I did right before I tried to restart xserver...
[13:15] <bahamas> btw, why isn't anyone fixing this 'Unknown keyword in configuration file.'? i know the solution is pretty easy to find with google, but still
[13:16] <sandy1337> now downloading start.. it is 10.4 mb right
[13:16] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: did nvidia-xconfig help?
[13:16] <allandee> bahamas: they're busy configuring RAIDs.
[13:16] <Lasers> bahamas: You better fix it for us. ;)
[13:16] <tensorpudding> wait, it's called nvidia-settings now maybe?
[13:16] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: :), no that's what messed up x completely...gdm reboot halted, I had to go alt+ctrl+f1
[13:16] <Lasers> tensorpudding: nvidia-xconfig is CLI.
[13:17] <tensorpudding> yeah
[13:17] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: nvidia-xconfig is the right command
[13:17] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: but somehow the xconfig it created wasn't working well....
[13:17] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: i cant tell how big it is  i never looked
[13:17] <dhruvasagar> I read this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1647855
[13:17] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: that's pretty strange
[13:17] <bahamas> Lasers: for you? how do i do that?
[13:17] <dhruvasagar> and I suppose I should try and install the latest nvidia drivers perhaps ?
[13:17] <sandy1337> oh k leeeroooy_J :) i <3 u
[13:18] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: what is your nvidia gpu name?
[13:18] <usr13> dhruvasagar: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[13:18] <allandee> bahamas: escape while you can
[13:18] <dhruvasagar> usr13: I tried seting it man
[13:18] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: 525M
[13:18] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: :o
[13:18] <tensorpudding> okay, so new
[13:19] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Which nvidia card do you have?
[13:19] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?
[13:19] <tensorpudding> well, that means the new drivers should work, so long as the 525M is supported
[13:19] <dhruvasagar> usr13: nvidia 525M
[13:19] <tensorpudding> by the nvidia driver
[13:20] <quiescens> leeeroooy_J: they should generally show up under system->administration->additional drivers
[13:20] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15 this suggested that it is supposed to work
[13:20] <allandee> leeeroooy_J: I don't know, but I'm curious, why do you need to know?
[13:20] <bahamas> allandee: is it that bad? anyway, two quick questions: which should i choose between vim-gnome and vim-gtk?
[13:20] <Arabus> Good day. Some with a little LDAP/libnss-ldap knowledge here? I have a strange timeout error happing on my lucid machine after some hours. The logfile justs spits me a " nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server - Server is unavailable" in the face - after a nscd restart everything works fine :-/
[13:20] <allandee> bahamas: vim-gtk
[13:20] <leeeroooy_J> quiescens: everything?
[13:20] <leeeroooy_J> allandee: erm, dont want to have proprietary stuff if its not needed
[13:21] <kyle_> i want to do. When i press power button, Lock PC... possible?
[13:21] <allandee> leeeroooy_J: ok, thanks.
[13:21] <quiescens> leeeroooy_J: not really, it will probably only list things that were installed by ubuntu
[13:21] <dhruvasagar> usr13: when I check nvidia.com I see that the latest drivers they are offering on their site for linux 64 bit is 280.13, but the ubuntu repos seem to be install 185, why is it so outdated ?
[13:21] <bahamas> allandee: ok, thanks. second question: do you know how to enable wireless on an inspiron 3010. when i had the wired connection on, it said somewhere that wireless was disabled by hardware switch
[13:21] <tensorpudding> ubuntu has newer drivers than 185
[13:22] <tensorpudding> it has several different versions
[13:22] <leeeroooy_J> quiescens: so if im using proprietary stuff for my ethernet/wifi card i wouldnt know?
[13:22] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: 185 was the latest that I see
[13:22] <tensorpudding> because the nvidia drivers often deprecate support for older cards
[13:22] <allandee> bahamas: did you try  the hardware switch?
[13:22] <tensorpudding> 185 was the last release to suppose certain old cards
[13:22] <tensorpudding> wait
[13:23] <tensorpudding> that's very strange
[13:23] <tensorpudding> the package is called 285, but it uses version 270.41.06
[13:23] <tensorpudding> nvidia-180 has version 185.18.36
[13:23] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: which package ? where are you looking ?
[13:23] <quiescens> leeeroooy_J: you should know, the proprietary drivers that are capable of being automatically managed, will ask you before installing and will generally show up in that list
[13:23] <quiescens> leeeroooy_J: if you go and download drivers off a manufacturer's website and install them yourself it might now show up in the lists, but i would think you would know its installed
[13:24] <leeeroooy_J> quiescens: what about ethernet ones? those too?
[13:24] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/nvidia-current
[13:24] <bahamas> allandee: if by hardware switch you mean the F2 key, then i did
[13:24] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: hmm, you are running 11.04 right?
[13:24] <newbie> hey
[13:24] <leeeroooy_J> quiescens: thanks for the infos btw, ill give a look at all that, i need one pc of mines to have as few binary blobs as possible
[13:24] <newbie> i dont want to use ubuntu unity !!!!
[13:24] <usr13> dhruvasagar: is it GeForce GT 545 ?
[13:24] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: yes
[13:24] <newbie> it really sucks
[13:25] <leeeroooy_J> newbie: switch to ubuntu classic
[13:25] <dhruvasagar> usr13: GeForce GT 525M
[13:25] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot using gpt.  boot-repair isn't working.
[13:25] <newbie> yeah i switch
[13:25] <newbie> but
[13:25] <Guest78301> there is no panel and no compiz
[13:25] <allandee> bahamas: do you somewhet recognize your wifi-unit when issuing "lspci" in a terminal window?
[13:25] <dhruvasagar> why do people think unity sucks ?
[13:25] <usr13> dhruvasagar: I only see GeForcd GT 520   &   GeForce GT 545   on nvidia.com
[13:26] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: unity causes alot of troubles when the video card doesnt like it
[13:26] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: it's going to be the only default option in the next version
[13:26] <dhruvasagar> I have been using ubuntu since 7.04 and have been pretty much a gnome fanboy, it took me a while to attempt to try unity thinking I won't like it, but it turns out it's nice. I like how it utilizes the real estate
[13:26] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: but GNOME 3's shell will be available as an option
[13:26] <Guest78301> because
[13:26] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: ahhh well I am myself in the middle of such problems :)
[13:26] <Guest78301> you cant use panel
[13:26] <dhruvasagar> usr13: no it's there
[13:26] <dhruvasagar> usr13: select 500M series
[13:27] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot using gpt.  boot-repair isn't working.
[13:27] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: the old gnome panel is dead, GNOME 2 is no longer the latest version
[13:27] <dhruvasagar> usr13: within that you will find the 525M
[13:27] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: i was too, nerfed unity, no point using it on nvidia/ati cards since im switching to intel (those will have unity)
[13:27] <Guest78301> and there is no windows burder in unity
[13:27] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: if Unity didn't exist you'd be using gnome-shell, the replacement for the old gnome-panel etc.
[13:27] <allandee> dhruvasagar: I dislike it because window-switching is slow as molasses on a beefy box, and because 70% of it is fugly and steals screen real estate.
[13:27] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: and gnome-shell has a lot of similarities in style to unity
[13:27] <usr13> dhruvasagar: It skips from GeForce GT 520   to   GeForce GT 530
[13:28] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: well unity is using the intel card on my machine, since it's unable to use nvidia, but I see the games are running rather slowly, even more slowly than how they ran on my old laptop which had a 256M old Nvidia card, but was running gnome :(
[13:28] <Guest78301> no installation candidates for gnome-shell
[13:28] <dhruvasagar> usr13: man please listen to what I am saying
[13:28] <bahamas> allandee: yes, it's Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[13:28] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Oh It is a notebook:  GeForce GT 525M
[13:28] <dhruvasagar> usr13: if you select the 500M series, within that you will find 525M
[13:28] <dhruvasagar> usr13: yea
[13:28] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: you have an optimus card?
[13:28] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot using gpt.  boot-repair isn't working.
[13:28] <Guest78301> pls say to me a solution
[13:28] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Are you 32bit or 64bit?
[13:29] <dhruvasagar> usr13: 64
[13:29] <allandee> bahamas: let's see then
[13:29] <Guest78301> i cannot use any application in any place of desktop
[13:29] <Guest78301> i cant move
[13:29] <dhruvasagar> usr13: I am currently downloading the latest drivers from nvidia.com if that's what you're going to ask me to do...
[13:29] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: gnome-shell isn't available for Ubuntu yet
[13:29] <Guest78301> this puts all app to the top of desktop
[13:29] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: hmmm the intel one right ?
[13:29] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: it released after 11.04 did, they can't add it in after the fact
[13:29] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: optimus is a nvidia technology that lets u switch cards according to your pc's usage
[13:30] <Guest78301> techhelper1:
[13:30] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: yes that's the one I have
[13:30] <Guest78301> sorry
[13:30] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: that gives alot of problems to linux users (generally)
[13:30] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: and in any case, it can't be used alongside the version of Unity present in 11.04
[13:30] <Guest78301> i cannot use ubuntu 11.04 right now
[13:30] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: apparently it does :)
[13:30] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: any suggestions ?
[13:30] <dhruvasagar> usr13: what about you ?
[13:30] <Guest78301> i cannot move application in the desktop
[13:30] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: its not just unity, i heard those cards overheat quickly as they dont shutdown when intel is the only used
[13:30] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: just stick with Ubuntu classic
[13:30] <Guest78301> unity puts it the top
[13:31] <Guest78301> n ubuntu classic there is no panel
[13:31] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: suggestions about? sorry i didnt read if you posted your problem earlier
[13:31] <Guest78301> there is no menu
[13:31] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: hmmm well I just bought this so I haven't yet tried things out
[13:31] <Guest78301> there is no compiz
[13:31] <tensorpudding> there is a panel in ubuntu classic
[13:31] <Guest78301> nothing here
[13:31] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Did you install via the package manager?
[13:31] <tensorpudding> i don't know what you mean by "no panel"
[13:31] <dhruvasagar> usr13: that I have tried almost 3 times now, yes
[13:31] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot windows on a gpt disk .  boot-repair isn't working.  Anyone know how I can boot my brick?
[13:31] <tensorpudding> if you have no panel in classic, that is a problem
[13:31] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: well when I enable nvidia proprietary drivers, it kills unity and switches back to gnome
[13:32] <usr13> dhruvasagar: And did you get any display at all?
[13:32] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: use nouveau ones, they may have switching working
[13:32] <dhruvasagar> usr13: I had, but it switched back to gnome, I wanted it to work with Unity if possible
[13:32] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Oh and gnome runs ok?
[13:32] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: nouveau ones ? sry not sure abotu that
[13:32] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: open jockey it should say "experimental 3d drivers"
[13:33] <dhruvasagar> usr13: well it seemed like, though I didn't really try plaaying games
[13:33] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: if you want to risk with experimental stuff you may have your cards to switch, else you ll have to look at the modules being developed for switching, but optimus on linux is not supported by nvidia
[13:33] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: what exactly do you mean by 'cards to switch' ?
[13:34] <AdvoWork> where would ubuntu keep domains in relation to zones?DNS?
[13:34] <allandee> bahamas: oh crap.  ok
[13:34] <bahamas> allandee: hmm?
[13:34] <allandee> bahamas: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:34] <usr13> dhruvasagar: did you look at the log file?  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:34] <usr13> for clues...
[13:34] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: are you suggesting me to actually get Dell to change my graphics card from optimus to some other one ? or does the word 'switch' have some different meaning in your context ?
[13:35] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: if you have an optimus card you actually have 2, the nvidia one and the intel gma, the nvidia one turns on for games and activities that require alot of "graphics" the intel one turns on to let you use your pc, the problem with linux is that its not possible to switch
[13:35] <Guest78301> look here
[13:35] <Guest78301> http://i52.tinypic.com/108i8vr.png
[13:35] <leeeroooy_J> lol you got a dell <3
[13:35] <Eroc> Hello all, i am installing a ftp server called crushftp which i have to start with : "sudo nohup java -Dcrushftp.version=5 -jar CrushFTP.jar -d&". This works even if i logout but when i reboot it is gone. I want it to execute on startup but after googling for awhile i only noticed failure.
[13:35] <Guest78301> look here http://i52.tinypic.com/108i8vr.png
[13:35] <Guest78301> where is panel
[13:35] <bahamas> allandee: please give me all the instructions if possible, because i need to disconnect here to be able to install stuff on the laptop. alternatively, i'll just install that and come back
[13:35] <Guest78301> where is panel
[13:35] <usr13> dhruvasagar: leeeroooy_J It is a notebook and the video chip is on the MB
[13:35] <Guest78301> i cannot see any panel
[13:35] <leeeroooy_J> usr13: pardon?
[13:36] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: ok, I understand that better
[13:36] <Guest78301> http://i52.tinypic.com/108i8vr.png
[13:36] <mega2> how do i add user to admin group
[13:36] <dhruvasagar> usr13: I did, the last error I see states 'no screens found'
[13:36] <bahamas> allandee: ok, i'll do the latter
[13:36] <allandee> bahamas: I would if I could, but I can only test to the step I showed you, because I don't have that particular hardware to test with here
[13:36] <om26er> Guest78301, which version of ubuntu?
[13:36] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot windows on a gpt disk .  boot-repair isn't working.  Anyone know how I can boot my brick?
[13:36] <Guest78301> ubuntu 11.04
[13:36] <om26er> Guest78301,
[13:37] <om26er> Guest78301, open terminal type 'unity'
[13:37] <om26er> Guest78301, did you change anything in cssm??
[13:37] <dhruvasagar> usr13: from the log it is quite clear that the driver is broken :(
[13:37] <Guest78301> yes
[13:37] <Guest78301> i wrote unity
[13:37] <allandee> bahamas: however, there are some hints at the end of the compilation, and if things went well, your wifi unit should connect to your access-point
[13:37] <Guest78301> but nothing changes
[13:37] <usr13> dhruvasagar: If it works in gnome, it is not broken.  Didn't you say that it booted to gnome ok?
[13:37] <om26er> Guest78301, try 'unity --reset'
[13:37] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: should I even try the latest drivers offered by nvidia.com at all or should I just keep windows for gaming and linux for work ?
[13:38] <a111> is there a command line tool for editing partitions in ubuntu
[13:38] <dhruvasagar> usr13: hmmm yes
[13:38] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Then the issue is just with unity?  (Don't see how, but........+)
[13:38] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: nvidia drivers dont support optimus, either you try the nouveau ones or you just use linux for work
[13:38] <Guest78301> what the hell http://dpaste.com/586323/
[13:39] <Guest51417> hello is there someone to help me
[13:39] <allandee> usr13: I'm totally stealing that line as a sig "If it works in gnome, it is not broken." :D
[13:39] <bahamas> allandee: it was already at the newest version
[13:39] <Guest78301> out of my mind
[13:39] <Guest78301> hey
[13:39] <Guest78301> unity really sucks
[13:39] <om26er> Guest78301, you should try to login to a guest session
[13:40] <usr13> allandee: Well, I just don't understand why gnome would work with the Nvidia driver and unity won't
[13:40] <Guest78301> why guest
[13:40] <om26er> Guest78301, and you did not reply did you change anything in ccsm???
[13:40] <allandee> bahamas: did we check lsmod for that driver?
[13:40] <usr13> dhruvasagar: I suppose you could uninstall the nvidia driver via the package manager and install the one from nvidia.com
[13:40] <Guest78301> i didnt change anything in ccsm
[13:40] <om26er> Guest78301, if unity is not for you classic desktop is you can select that at the pasword screen 'Ubuntu Classic'
[13:40] <bahamas> allandee: i don't recall. how do i do that?
[13:41] <allandee> usr13: yea, it was just amusing when pulled out of context ;)
[13:41] <Guest78301> whayt is the command for log out
[13:41] <om26er> Guest78301, in guess session every setting is default
[13:41] <allandee> bahamas: just type "lsmod" in a terminal window
[13:41] <Guest78301> logout command doesnt work
[13:41] <usr13> o
[13:41] <om26er> Guest78301, sudo service gdm restart
[13:41] <bryan_> hi everyoen
[13:41] <everyoen> hi
[13:41] <bryan_> is there someone t help me with my usb
[13:42] <usr13> bryan_: What is the matter with your USB?
[13:42] <mega2> can i install ubuntu 11 over 10
[13:42] <bahamas> allandee: i did. what should i look for, because there's nothing obvious that stands out?
[13:42] <xangua> mega2: yes
[13:42] <Eroc> Hello all, i am installing a ftp server called crushftp which i have to start with : "sudo nohup java -Dcrushftp.version=5 -jar CrushFTP.jar -d&". This works even if i logout but when i reboot it is gone. I want it to execute on startup but after googling for awhile i only noticed failure.
[13:43] <bryan_> i had ppuppy linux on it .. now i can do anything with usb ...boot error
[13:43] <bryan_> even format ..i dont have the permission
[13:43] <allandee> bahamas: I think you would have spotted it if it was there, some permuation of BroadCom-something-something.  like bcmwl
[13:43] <usr13> bryan_: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[13:44] <bryan_> how to screenshot here
[13:44] <bryan_> natty
[13:45] <allandee> bahamas: ok and now for "ifconfig" in your terminal window
[13:45] <allandee> you want to ignore the entry identified by "lo"
[13:45] <giusf> Help riproduttore di filmati su 11.10 non funziona
[13:45] <xangua> !it | giusf
[13:46] <usr13> bryan_: Are you the original user?  (Have you created a new user on your system?)
[13:46] <xangua> giusf: and 11.10 is not supported here
[13:46] <bahamas> allandee: there's just eth0
[13:46] <allandee> eth0 (probably there) is only interesting if it has an assigned IP
[13:46] <bryan_> original user
[13:46] <bahamas> besides lo, i mean
[13:46] <giusf> #ubuntu-it
[13:46] <maxxer> hi. I have an ubuntu 10.04 Xen Virtual Machine which mounts partition then won't go ahead
[13:46] <usr13> bryan_: Do you have it plugged in now?
[13:46] <bryan_> yes im on
[13:46] <allandee> bahamas: our day could have been brighter.
[13:46] <bahamas> allandee: it has a inet6 addr
[13:47] <usr13> bryan_: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[13:47] <Arabus> Someone with a little LDAP/libnss-ldap knowledge here? I have a strange timeout error happing on my lucid machine after some hours. The logfile justs spits me a " nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server - Server is unavailable" in the face - after a nscd restart everything works fine :-/
[13:47] <rickb|server> This is going to sound like a total newb question but here goes.. when I ls a directory it is owned by me then a space then root, how do i change the other field that says root?
[13:47] <usr13> bryan_: ... and send us resulting URL (paste it here).
[13:47] <bahamas> allandee: so what's the problem?
[13:47] <rickb|server> 09:47 4.0K drwxrwxrwx  2 me root  4.0K Aug  3 13:30 www
[13:47] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot windows on a gpt disk .  boot-repair isn't fixing Grub2.  Anyone know how I can boot my brick?
[13:48] <allandee> bahamas: you mean "what's the solution?" ;p
[13:48] <Arabus> rickb|server: "man chown"
[13:48] <bahamas> allandee: i'm curious to know what the problem is, at least. i mean, more than the wireless doesn't work :)
[13:49] <tokam> hello, first of all I would like to make a suggestion for ubuntu 11.4. I think you updated the batery monitoring for notebooks. When the time left <= 5 (or maybe 10), suspend to ram is activated. I think it would be better to do this when 0 minutes left is displayed. It would mean than 0 minutes left until the computer goes into suspend to ram mode. Because often the mode surprises me.
[13:49] <llutz_> rickb|server: its the "group" owning the dir, change with chgrp or chown
[13:49] <allandee> bahamas: I'm cheering you up, because the solution might involve you booting into windows, grabbing the firmware that is temporarily loaded onto the wifi chip, booting into linux and letting the driver know where you put the copy of the firmware o.O
[13:49] <rickb|server> llutz_: would you recommend disabling ftp?
[13:49] <tokam> when there are 10 minutes left, you get less notifications, and almost imediately your computer goes into suspend to ram mode. further more sometimes this even has bugs and you lose your documents.
[13:49] <Llywelyn> Hello everybody, i don't know if this is the right channel but i'm looking for a bit of help in compiling stuff
[13:50] <bryan_> sorry where is the vertical bar in the command on my keyboard?
[13:50] <bahamas> allandee: sounds similar to a problem i had with a modem once. unfortunately, i don't have windows yet
[13:50] <Llywelyn> i might have done a wrong symlink
[13:50] <llutz_> rickb|server:  sure, sftp is preferred
[13:50] <rickb|server> okay. I'll do that
[13:51] <bahamas> if there's no other way, i'll have to install it and hope that the damn thing doesn't overwrite grub
[13:51] <allandee> bahamas: well, in the balance of all things, I'd say that you're on the fortunate end of things.
[13:51] <usr13> bryan_: Above Enter key, (upper-case)
[13:52] <usr13> bryan_: Do you know how to copy and paste?
[13:52] <usr13> bryan_: See my pm
[13:52] <bahamas> allandee: what would the other end look like? :)
[13:52] <allandee> bahamas: you have no way to connect via cable?
[13:52] <bahamas> allandee: btw, how relevant is this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[13:52] <allandee> bahamas: you'd be stuck in windows, without access to the internet
[13:52] <bahamas> yeah, that would it make it worse indeed
[13:54] <cypha`> is there a switch I can put on sudo aptitude remove so that it COMPLETELY removes the app?
[13:54] <allandee> bahamas: it is relevant, but not recent enough
[13:54] <llutz_> cypha`: aptitude purge
[13:54] <tokam> I need help with the dual screen. How to make the ubuntu menu appear on the left screen (my secondary monitor)
[13:54] <bahamas> allandee: is that firmware unique to each machine? meaning, can't i find it somewhere to download it?
[13:54] <cypha`> llutz_: that's better that sudo aptitude remove ?
[13:54] <cypha`> that = than
[13:55] <allandee> bahamas: but that'd be at odds with the proprietors!  (I'm trying to find it ;p)
[13:55] <llutz_> cypha`: define "better". it purges all the package-related stuff except your personal settings
[13:55] <cypha`> llutz_: i even want my person settings gone
[13:56] <llutz_> cypha`: rm ~/.whatever
[13:56] <cypha`> llutz_: what's the difference btwn sudo aptitude remove and sudo aptitude purge?
[13:56] <llutz_> cypha`: apt/dpkg never will touch your personal stuff
[13:56] <llutz_> cypha`: man aptitude                  tells you
[13:56] <cypha`> llutz_ aptitude ;)
[13:57] <allandee> bahamas: oh, here's a nice compilation of information about the driver http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[13:57] <compdoc> cypha`, as simple remove often leaves lots of files and folders and parts of the program behind.
[13:57] <|OLLIE|> the personal settings are app specific as well. apt dont really know about them. could be in ~/.whatever or ~/.config/whatever or /etc/ ..
[13:57] <cypha`> thanks compdoc
[13:57] <llutz_> cypha`: "man aptitude "  is a command, issue it and read
[13:57] <crill> cypha`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=905706
[13:58] <bahamas> allandee: ok. i'll try it out. brb
[13:58] <victorhugo289> Guys, why sometimes when I enter Ubuntu I have to type my password 3 times?
[13:58] <cypha`> so what's the advantage of ubuntu over other distros?
[13:58] <cypha`> i'm not using gnome or kde
[13:58] <allandee> bahamas: I can't find a copy of the firmware for your controller ;(
[13:58] <cypha`> why shouldn't I use debian instead?
[13:59] <cypha`> which one is faster?
[13:59] <llutz_> cypha`: #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[13:59] <allandee> bahamas: I think you have to either find a way to boot into windows to copy it, or to buy a different wifi-dongle
[13:59] <cypha`> how's that offtopic?
[13:59] <dr-willis> run benvhmarks and see  cypha`
[13:59] <victorhugo289> haha
[13:59] <victorhugo289> Cypha :D
[13:59] <barcel0> I'm doing a remastering of Ubuntu for a 128-256 MB ram pc, well I have it almost ready, but I need to install and configure an installer you can start with light to start the cd isolinux, so Show me the options should: 1 - Start livecd, 2 - Install directly.
[14:00] <cypha`> dr-willis: i'm guessing you already have
[14:00] <cypha`> with all that time you seem to have at work ;)
[14:00] <dr-willis> cypha`:  im sticking to ubuntu. it works well for me
[14:00] <barcel0> sombebody help me?
[14:00] <allandee> barcel0:  sounds like the 2 interesting options.
[14:00] <cypha`> kk
[14:00] <cypha`> good enough for willis, good enough for me
[14:00] <Sybregunne> anybody here using an hp dv6 quad core i7?
[14:00] <dr-willis> barcel0:  the issue is?
[14:01] <cypha`> dr-willis: btw, I switched to openbox
[14:01] <cypha`> much faster/cleaner/minimalistic
[14:01] <Llywelyn> someone knows about compiling and symlink stuff ?
[14:01] <dr-willis> its jyst a window manager. so that makes sence cypha`
[14:02] <dr-willis> !compile
[14:02] <Pici> Llywelyn: Those are two separate and not often related subjects.  Just ask your question(s) and see if you get an answer.
[14:02] <lucian_> allandee: hi, it's bahamas
[14:02] <gurkhali_69> hello can anyone suggest me download accelerator+ manager for ubuntu?
[14:02] <allandee> lucian: well, hello there
[14:03] <dr-willis> gurkhali_69:  not really needed one of those in years
[14:03] <Llywelyn> Pici: i followed a guide to compile ps2 stuff... i moved /usr/local/ps2dev to /home/g/ps2dev and created a file with a symlink but it won't compile
[14:03] <lucian_> allandee: i installed b43-fwcutter. is there anything else i should do?
[14:03] <cypha`> gurkhali_69: sikh?
[14:03] <lucian_> actually, can you paste that link again? i'm on the laptop now
[14:03] <dr-willis> gurkhali_69:  you on some lowspeed connection?
[14:03] <barcel0> dr-willis problem is that installer is not used, can dicirme one?
[14:03] <gurkhali_69> ya very low indeed
[14:04] <gurkhali_69> multiget didn't serve my purpose. so i came here if anyone could suggest me better one
[14:04] <dr-willis> barcel0:  huh? youbwant what?
[14:04] <barcel0> can you tell me some?** (sorry my english no good)
[14:05] <barcel0> some install for use
[14:05] <dr-willis> barcel0:  some what exactly?
[14:05] <allandee> lucian: reading through the procedure
[14:07] <rickb|server> anybody got an idea why when my laptop's display starts to dim it mutes the speakers when it locks. how do i change the timeout time? no matter what I set in the power settings it wont work
[14:07] <rickb|server> :(
[14:07] <allandee> and disconnecting in the process
[14:07] <barcel0> dr-willis an installer to use
[14:07] <somsip> rickb|server: could it be a screensver setting?
[14:08] <dr-willis> barcel0:  an installer is vague.. i have no idea what you are wanting
[14:08] <rickb|server> somsip: i dont even have one enabled :(
[14:08] <Bisu[Shield]> I have a problem. I am trying to make a drive available to vmware.  I chown name:disk /dev/sdb* to connect but then immediately after the owner changes to root.  How do I make this device available?
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows where i can check why my gnome theme changes after boot?
[14:08] <somsip> rickb|server: well, when I used one, it was the default one, and it did exactly the same. But if you don't have, then fair enough
[14:09] <rickb|server> well let me check, i dont know if blank screen counts :)
[14:09] <federico> Hi, I was wondering if anyone is running SandyBridge processors with Ubuntu?
[14:09] <somsip> rickb|server: maybe a red herring, but worth a go. If not, I'm clueless
[14:09] <rickb|server> lol ok :)
[14:09] <ionutP> hi all
[14:10] <lucian_> allandee: okay
[14:10] <barcel0> dr-willis ou call the installer using the cd! Alernatibe?
[14:10] <ionutP> how can i enable A2DP source service in blueman?
[14:11] <militant> hmmmm so zeitgeist datahub is zombied after every boot.  i see from google this is a known issue, but there's so many repeats of the same info that i can't quite see if there's a fix?  or if it causes any issues with other software or services?
[14:11] <barcel0> alternative*
[14:11] <Bisu[Shield]> wth am I invisible?
[14:11] <dr-willis> barcel0:  the os installer binary is called 'ubiquity' i think
[14:11] <federico> Hi everyone, I'm about to byt a new pc with SandyBridge, will it work with 11.04? Thanks a lot, I don't wanna make a mistake buying incompat. hard
[14:11] <wols_> Bisu[Shield]: don't change the owner but permissions
[14:11] <ionutP> how can i enable A2DP source service in blueman?
[14:12] <Bisu[Shield]> what should I change it to?
[14:12] <Bisu[Shield]> ?
[14:13] <rickb|server> guess what os? http://rickb.net/desktop.png :p
[14:13] <dr-willis> Bisu[Shield]: where did the idea to chown the /dev/sdxx come from?
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu with mac os theme
[14:13] <Bisu[Shield]> I made it up dr-willis
[14:14] <Bisu[Shield]> because I needed permisison to use the device
[14:14] <dr-willis> Bisu[Shield]:  i think that ides us totally wrong
[14:14] <Bisu[Shield]> I agree
[14:14] <federico> Hi, can anyone, please, help me with some SandyBridge questions? Thanks!
[14:14] <Bisu[Shield]> brw-rw----  <-- what permission is this? I dont recognize the b part
[14:14] <dr-willis> b   block device
[14:14] <dr-willis> i think
[14:15] <sipior> dr-willis: yep.
[14:15] <Bisu[Shield]> oh so just chmod 777??
[14:15] <ionutP> hi is anyone using blueman?
[14:15] <allandee> bahamas: well, doh!
[14:15] <dr-willis> i dont think you chown or chmod /dev/sdxx items at all
[14:15] <edbian> dr-willis: I agree
[14:16] <lucian_> allandee: ??
[14:16] <Bisu[Shield]> dr-willis:  so how do i make the device available to vmware?  Currently vmware is complaining that it does not have permission to read the file
[14:16] <allandee> lucian: the rom can be extracted from the published windows drivers ;p
[14:16] <allandee> lucian: ok:
[14:17] <lizhengqian> ger
[14:17] <federico> Hi, can anyone, please, help me with some SandyBridge questions? Thanks!
[14:17] <dr-willis> check vmware guides/docs i guess. using a vm to access a real physical disk i think is not a good idea
[14:17] <dr-willis> vbox docs warn against doing that
[14:18] <usr13> Bisu[Shield]: What exactly are you trying to do.  Why would vmware need  premission to "read" a block device file?
[14:18] <taz> hey i just opened irc for the the first time in my life can anyone point me to like a begginers guide?
[14:18] <allandee> lucian: something like "mkdir ~/tmp ; cd ~/tmp ; wget http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.3_mipsel.tar.bz2" to grab the driver
[14:18] <allandee> or whereever you want to put it
[14:19] <usr13> taz:  http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[14:19] <lucian_> allandee: it will remain there permanently, i assume
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows where to find a theme error: my gnome theme changes suddenly after boot
[14:20] <allandee> extract with "tar --extract --bzip2 --file broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.3_mipsel.tar.bz2"
[14:20] <Bisu[Shield]> when I try to connect to the device via vmware, i get an error: Virtual device scsi0:1: Unable to open host device "/dev/sdb1": Insufficient permissions to access the file. Please make sure the virtual device is configured to use a Linux SCSI Generic device (/dev/sg*), and that the physical device is functioning normally on the host.
[14:20] <Bisu[Shield]> Failed to connect virtual device scsi0:1.
[14:20] <allandee> lucian: hence the name "tmp"
[14:20] <Bisu[Shield]> and I am not sure how to fix it
[14:20] <allandee> (no ;)
[14:20] <usr13> allandee: tar jxvf broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.3_mipsel.tar.bz2
[14:20] <allandee> usr13: long options for readability ;)
[14:21] <lucian_> allandee: done
[14:21] <usr13> allandee: Oh ok.
[14:21] <federico> maybe this would work: sudo Hi, can anyone, please, help me with some SandyBridge questions? Thanks!
[14:21] <Pici> !ask | federico
[14:22] <cypha> which pygtk do I download?
[14:22] <federico> SandyBridge is compatible with 11.04 release?
[14:22] <lucian_> i see there are some wl_linux files
[14:22] <allandee> right, I'm trying to figure out where to write the extracted rom to
[14:23] <dr-willis> !hcl
[14:23] <Pinguincsc> hello
[14:23] <dr-willis> jello
[14:23] <cypha> dr-willis: do you have pythongtk?
[14:23] <cypha> pygtk
[14:23] <lucian_> allandee: alright
[14:23] <cypha> python-pygtk
[14:24] <maxxer> what happens after "running /scripts/init-bottom"?
[14:24] <dr-willis> no idea. cyp cypha  should i?
[14:24] <maxxer> my machine is stuck there
[14:24] <dabbish> unity, what do you guys think? like or dislike?
[14:24] <cypha> not necessarily
[14:24] <dr-willis> !find pygtk
[14:24] <cypha> can anyone tell me which python-gtk package I should be downloading?
[14:24] <rhin0> dabbish I couldn't find the bash prompt Oo
[14:24] <Pici> !info python-gtk2
[14:25] <Pinguincsc> I am trying to find the best way to backup files from an NTFS FS to an external USB disk
[14:25] <th0r> Pinguincsc: rsync?
[14:25] <Pinguincsc> I am running Ubuntu Lucid Desktop. I was thinking of using Deja Dup
[14:26] <Pinguincsc> Is it safe for NTFS?
[14:26] <dabbish> Ok let me rephrase that; Is there anyone here who actually use Unity?
[14:26] <Pinguincsc> yes
[14:26] <Algorith> obviously
[14:26] <popey> dabbish: yup
[14:28] <dabbish> one person?
[14:28] <wols_> !polls
[14:28] <wols_> dabbish: don't take one
[14:28] <bahamas> allandee: i'm back to my original nickname :)
[14:28] <dabbish> wols_, huh?
[14:28] <wols_> dabbish: do not take polls
[14:29] <dabbish> wols_, I'm just curios. I took one look at it and thought WTF
[14:29] <wols_> dabbish: do you have an actual ubuntu support problem?
[14:29] <federico> @ubottu : the hardware support page on Wiki  only has equipments, not components... any other links you can point me to? Thanks for your help!
[14:29] <wols_> federico: ubottu is a bot
[14:30] <dabbish> wols_, no
[14:30] <wols_> federico: can you tell us the difference between "equipments" and "components"?
[14:30] <tokam> hello, how to set up a taskbar at my second dual monitor. I tried to follow some online tutorials (like pressing als+mouse 1) and moving an existing panel arround, but this all showed now reaction.
[14:30] <federico> @wols_ I'm an idiot...jajaj
[14:30] <federico> @wols_ equipment: notebook, desktop, server | components: motherboards, cpus, etc.
[14:31] <barcel0> debian-installer is the installer that uses the alternative installation cd for ubuntu?
[14:31] <barcel0> true? xD
[14:32] <allandee> bahamas?
[14:32] <wols_> federico: link on that page you got linked: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog
[14:32] <bahamas> allandee: yes
[14:32] <wols_> barcel0: afaik yes
[14:32] <allandee> bahamas: do you have git installed?
[14:32] <Pinguincsc> how do I add a separate item for Software Sources to Unity?
[14:33] <federico> @wols_ thanks! I would have expected a catalog categorized by parts, so I quickly looked and didn't notice. Thanks!
[14:33] <bahamas> allandee: i do now
[14:34] <allandee> you have to "git clone git://git.bu3sch.de/b43-tools.git" - the Ubuntu package doesn't quite work
[14:34] <militant> hmmmm.  so anyone know what's with zeitgeist datahub being zombied at boot?
[14:34] <allandee> clone it to a tmp directory of sortrs
[14:34] <allandee> sorts
[14:35] <bahamas> allandee: okay
[14:35] <federico> @wols_ is there an HCL for Ubuntu?
[14:36] <dr-willis> !hcl
[14:36] <barcel0> wols with isolinux I can add 2 entries, 1 - boot into live mode and 2-install directly (load debian-installer)?
[14:37] <wols_> barcel0: why would ther alternate ISO have live cd components on disk?
[14:37] <allandee> sudo <where-you-cloned-b43-tools-too>/fwcutter/b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~<username>/tmp/broadcom-wl*/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o
[14:38] <edbian> allandee: Who are you helping?
[14:38] <allandee> hm, the greater-than signs, > messed that up
[14:38] <allandee> edbian: bahamas
[14:38] <bahamas> edbian: me
[14:38] <federico> @dr-willis I live in a country where Hardware is REALLY expensive.  So, you have to be very carefull when buying parts..
[14:38] <edbian> bahamas: What card is this?
[14:38] <allandee> edbian; bcm4313
[14:38] <bahamas> edbian: broadcom
[14:38] <bahamas> ^^
[14:39] <wols_> federico: this HCL is still useless btw. well not totally useless but doesn't tell the whole story. e.g. broadcom WLAN is supposedly supported, but I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole for any Linux. same with ralink or realtek
[14:39] <federico> @wols_ what about TP-Link? My config is with that PCI wifi card..
[14:40] <ycl> can help me how to configuration cam to pidgin ?
[14:40] <wols_> federico: manufacturer of cards do not matter ever. only makers of the chips on said cards matter.
[14:41] <barcel0> wols I'm doing a remaster of ubuntu and I set it so that it isolinux say
[14:41] <wols_> federico: e.g. my tp-link uses atheros which is supported very well under linux.
[14:41] <beli> ycl: iirc pidgin has no support for that
[14:41] <edbian> bahamas: allandee Did you get it working?  I don't think b43 can be used for that card.
[14:41] <xangua> beli: ycl pidgin supportd voice and video for jabber protocol
[14:41] <bahamas> edbian: i'm trying now
[14:41] <barcel0> wols_*
[14:41] <wols_> barcel0: you make no sense
[14:42] <beli> xangua: oh, didn't know :) nice
[14:42] <usr13> allandee:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10735948
[14:42] <mdgeorge> hello
[14:42] <allandee> bahamas: I'll try again, using [] for meta info:  sudo [where got cloned b43-fwcutter to]/fwcutter/b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~[bahamas]/tmp/broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.3/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o
[14:42] <ycl> @xangua,how to conf ?
[14:42] <ycl> @beli,thanks
[14:42] <allandee> if we can suck out the prom, the driver should
[14:42] <xangua> ycl: do you have a jabber acount'¿
[14:42] <xangua> gtalk perhaps¿
[14:43] <nOStahl> can someone help me out to enable multiple graphics cards so I can have more than one screen
[14:43] <bahamas> allandee: yes, it's okay i understood. i don't see a b43-fwcutter executable in fwcutter though
[14:43] <mdgeorge> I'm using natty, and I'd like to install a newer version of xorg (I want the pointer barrier support added in 1.10.2)
[14:43] <mdgeorge> is there an easy way to do this without breaking everything?
[14:43] <bahamas> allandee: there's a file named like that but with .1 at the end
[14:43] <ycl> @xangua,i don't
[14:43] <wols_> nOStahl: do you want multiple screens or multiple X sessions?
[14:43] <nOStahl> multiple monitors
[14:43] <beli> nOStahl: read about xinerama
[14:44] <wols_> mdgeorge: no there is not
[14:44] <nOStahl> prob is, in lspci only my agp graphcis card shows up..
[14:44] <nOStahl> the integrated goes away
[14:44] <wols_> nOStahl: how many outputs does your main videocard have?
[14:44] <histo> mdgeorge: you'd have to build it yourself or get it from a ppa
[14:44] <bahamas> allandee: maybe i should run makefile before?
[14:44] <allandee> bahamas: oh right, you have to compile it ;P
[14:44] <histo> mdgeorge: but you may break things
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows where to find a theme error: my gnome theme changes suddenly after boot
[14:44] <allandee> yes
[14:44] <mdgeorge> I see
[14:45] <nOStahl> I wonder if my bios disables the integrated if I have an agp card plugged in?
[14:45] <ionutP> anyone using blueman?
[14:45] <allandee> cd to the fwcutter directory and issue make
[14:45] <ionutP> sasasas
[14:45] <wols_> nOStahl: it often does
[14:45] <dhruvasagar> usr13: btw I found this - https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee so apparently there is support for optimus
[14:46] <nOStahl> so I might have to throw a pci graphics card in instead to get more monitors eh?
[14:46] <wols_> nOStahl: answer my question please
[14:46] <bahamas> allandee: i seem to be missing some package, because i get a bunch of syntax errors. i do have 'make' installed, so it's not that
[14:46] <nOStahl> the agp has 2
[14:46] <mdgeorge> histo: if I found I broke things, could I easily backpedal?
[14:46] <nOStahl> both dvi im waiting on buddy to grab me couple dvi to vga adapters
[14:47] <wols_> nOStahl: so use them both. either via xrandr or nvidia-settings, depending on drivers used
[14:47] <nOStahl> aye im trying to add more than 2 screens
[14:47] <wols_> mdgeorge: no you cannot "backpedal". downgrades aren't supported
[14:47] <allandee> bahamas: some *-dev packages then, but I can try to to send you a compiled version, if you feel like
[14:47] <mdgeorge> I see
[14:47] <walman10> hi
[14:49] <bahamas> allandee: this is what i get http://paste.pocoo.org/show/452581/
[14:49] <allandee> oh, no
[14:49] <bahamas> allandee: the transfer failed apparently
[14:49] <mdgeorge> what is ubuntu/oneiric?
[14:49] <allandee> you cd to the directory and type "make"
[14:50] <bahamas> ah, that's it
[14:50] <nerdshell> allandee: make mustn't be done as superuser ?
[14:50] <bahamas> nerdshell: nope
[14:50] <allandee> nerdshell: no
[14:50] <nerdshell> allandee: ah, it's the make install that should, right ?
[14:50] <allandee> nerdshell: only if you "make install" and to a system-wide area
[14:51] <allandee> yea
[14:51] <S4nD3r> Im at gnome
[14:51] <S4nD3r> how to close my X to install a nvidia driver?
[14:52] <dr-willis> you did try the drivers from the repos first S4nD3r ?
[14:52] <S4nD3r> Sure
[14:52] <mdgeorge> thanks for your help guys
[14:52] <S4nD3r> I need to use GPUs
[14:52] <wols_> S4nD3r: and they didn't work why?
[14:52] <S4nD3r> to programming using CUDA
[14:53] <dr-willis> S4nD3r:  sudo service gdm.stop
[14:53] <allandee> S4nD3r: if you know the next steps, you can try /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[14:53] <dr-willis> gdm   stop
[14:53] <bahamas> allandee: done. now what?
[14:53] <dr-willis> service command is our friend
[14:54] <allandee> sudo [path-to-new-fwcutter] -w /lib/firmware ~[bahamas]/tmp/broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.3/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o
[14:56] <YankDownUnder> dr-willis, So technically, if someone (like some of the folks in this channel) does NOT have any friends, they can at least say that the "service" utility is a friend, right? ;)
[14:56] <bahamas> allandee: yes, i meant i did that as well :)
[14:56] <bryan_> hello usr 13
[14:56] <DaSpawn1> hi everyone
[14:56] <DaSpawn1> anyone have udev knowlege?
[14:56] <bryan_> hi everyone
[14:57] <allandee> oh, sweet,  no errors?
[14:57] <bahamas> allandee: nope
[14:57] <allandee> then you just need to load the new driver
[14:57] <wols_> DaSpawn1: ask your real question
[14:57] <bryan_> is there someone to help get my usb sudo
[14:57] <allandee> via insmod or modprobe, let's see what it should be called
[14:58] <bahamas> allandee: i have both
[14:58] <wols_> !anyone | bryan_
[14:59] <bryan_> who can help
[14:59] <getAnickname> what u need help with
[14:59] <DaSpawn1> I have a udev script to automount a drive and the drive is encrypted with dm_crypt.  The drive was removed without luksClose so the /dev/mapper/{device} still exists/is mounted.  luksClose no longer works, and I can not remove the device.  is it possible to force remove with udevadm?
[14:59] <wols_> bryan_: can you state your actual problem already?
[14:59] <Moses_> sup guyz
[14:59] <bryan_> a usb partition erase  must use sudo
[15:00] <sandy1337> hi guys
[15:00] <DaSpawn1> (reboot would remove but reboot not possible easily)
[15:00] <sandy1337> how to run virtual box on ubuntu?
[15:00] <bryan_> i new there ws guy who help he is gone now
[15:00] <sandy1337> :(
[15:00] <Moses_> can somone help me with something
[15:00] <sandy1337> please help guys
[15:00] <wols_> !anyone | moses
[15:01] <DaSpawn1> what details about virtual box on ubuntu are you looking for?
[15:01] <sandy1337> i want to install virtual box on my linux os
[15:01] <DaSpawn1> very easy
[15:01] <wols_> sandy1337: you install virtualbox from your normal ubuntu repo and you run it. easy as that
[15:01] <sandy1337> how daspawan?
[15:01] <allandee> bahamas: ok, the moment of truth o.O
[15:01] <allandee> bahamas: modprobe b43
[15:01] <DaSpawn1> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[15:01] <bryan_> anyone HERE
[15:01] <sandy1337> yeah i downloaded for that site
[15:01] <Moses_> do u guyz know cydia
[15:01] <DaSpawn1> the virtualbox avain in normal repos is old
[15:02] <wols_> sandy1337: why don't you use the virtualbox in your ubuntu repos?
[15:02] <DaSpawn1> *available
[15:02] <bahamas> allandee: no errors, but no output either. what should i check now?
[15:02] <amanthakur> hi guys, is there any channel available for gimp support?
[15:02] <wols_> DaSpawn1: then I suggest you support it in #vbox (or #virtualbox)
[15:02] <sandy1337> virutal box in ubuntu repos?
[15:02] <allandee> lsmod first to see that the b43 module is loaded
[15:02] <wols_> !alis | amanthakur
[15:02] <sandy1337> what's that mean
[15:02] <wols_> !info virtualbox-ose
[15:02] <allandee> then ifconfig to see if the adapter is listed
[15:02] <Moses_> guyz help ME
[15:02] <somsip> amanthakur: http://www.gimp.org/irc.html
[15:03] <allandee> and if not, dmesg and look at the most recent lines to maybe see why not
[15:03] <wols_> Moses_: since you are unable to state your problem coherently, no one can
[15:03] <bryan_> hello
[15:03] <Toph2> amanthakur,,, how about #gimp?
[15:03] <Pici> Moses_: Isn't that for iphones? What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[15:03] <amanthakur> somsip,  thanks :)
[15:03] <bahamas> allandee: a lsmod | grep b43 finds a few results
[15:03] <somsip> amanthakur: google is your friend...
[15:03] <amanthakur> Toph2, ok i will try that thank you :)
[15:03] <allandee> a few, now?
[15:03] <Moses_> watt do i go on then
[15:03] <bryan_> i have problem but nnno help
[15:03] <bryan_> snif snif
[15:03] <Moses_> to help on ipod
[15:03] <somsip> !anyone | bryan_
[15:04] <Pici> !alis | Moses_
[15:04] <wols_> bryan_: you are unable to state your problem. with a disability like that you never get help. state your problem already!
[15:04] <bahamas> allandee: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/452588/
[15:04] <Pici> bryan_: On one line please.
[15:04] <sandy1337> wols :(
[15:04] <sandy1337> help me pls
[15:04] <Pici> !vbox > sandy1337
[15:04] <TheDeza> Hi
[15:04] <bahamas> wols_: it's possible that he's trolling
[15:05] <sandy1337> ubottu how can i see your private msg/
[15:05] <allandee> bahamas: that's promising, actually
[15:05] <TheDeza> I'm installing ubuntu on my hard drive.
[15:05] <wols_> bahamas: never ascribe to malice what could be simple stupidity
[15:05] <TheDeza> :D
[15:05] <allandee> bahamas: and ifconfig?
[15:05] <bahamas> wols_: true
[15:05] <DaSpawn1> anyone on my udev question?
[15:05] <wols_> sandy1337: a window opened in your irc client somewhere
[15:05] <bryan_> so  my usb is not working on booting
[15:05] <sandy1337> no wols_
[15:05] <allandee> Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
[15:05] <allandee> Hanlon's razor.
[15:05] <wols_> sandy1337: it did
[15:06] <TheDeza> Are there any good free linux games?
[15:06] <sandy1337> nyeh wols
[15:06] <bryan_> why you dont help here
[15:06] <sandy1337> got it
[15:06] <sandy1337> but that link hadn't help me
[15:06] <sandy1337> :(
[15:06] <wols_> bryan_: cause you are unable to state your problem
[15:06] <sandy1337> wols_ tell me what to type in my terminal?
[15:06] <wols_> bryan_: you still didn't. read this http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[15:07] <sandy1337> guys i'm brand new to linux that's y
[15:07] <sandy1337> :(
[15:07] <bryan_> i told you i have problem with my usb kernal i cant intall anything onit now
[15:07] <minsik_> hi. I need help with my ar5b95 wi-fi card.
[15:07] <hroi> hi anybody know how I register my nickname with freenode?   ... doesnt appear on the freenode.net website
[15:07] <bryan_> sorry im new here also
[15:07] <genii-around> !register
[15:07] <TheDeza> Do !commands work in IRC?
[15:07] <TheDeza> I didn't think they did.
[15:07] <wols_> sandy1337: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/addremove.html  read this and learn how to install software
[15:07] <sandy1337> wols_ :(
[15:07] <TheDeza> !help
[15:07] <th0r> hroi: a simple google search will help
[15:08] <bahamas> allandee: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/452591/
[15:08] <allandee> TheDeza: yes
[15:08] <xangua> sandy1337: sudo aptget install virtualbox-ose
[15:08] <TheDeza> Thats odd.
[15:08] <bryan_> can i paste  my terminal msg here
[15:08] <Moses_> sumo
[15:08] <wols_> TheDeza: depends on the bot. some can work here. but if you want to experiment, use /msg ubottu <command>
[15:08] <wols_> bryan_: if it's only a single line, yes
[15:08] <TheDeza> Ah, it works by using a bot.
[15:08] <xangua> apt-get *
[15:08] <TheDeza> Otherwise, use pastie, or pastebin.
[15:08] <bryan_> no its big
[15:08] <wols_> !paste | bryan_
[15:09] <allandee> that looks like your cable though ;(
[15:09] <wols_> bryan_: include the command that leads to this error message as well please
[15:09] <TheDeza> http://pastie.org/
[15:09] <TheDeza> Gah, lost my chat window.
[15:09] <bryan_> isk /dev/sdb: 4041 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[15:09] <bryan_> 81 heads, 37 sectors/track, 2633 cylinders
[15:09] <bryan_> Units = cylinders of 2997 * 512 = 1534464 bytes
[15:09] <bryan_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:09] <bryan_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:09] <bryan_> Disk identifier: 0x00041257
[15:09] <FloodBot1> bryan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <allandee> bahamas: we wanted a "wlan0"
[15:09] <bahamas> allandee: ah, okay
[15:09] <Moses_> i need help how to hack ipod touch games
[15:09] <somsip> !ot | Moses_
[15:10] <wols_> Moses_: you are in the wrong channel for that. go away
[15:10] <TheDeza> This isn't the place to learn how.
[15:10] <bahamas> allandee: only eth0 and lo unfortunately
[15:10] <sandy1337> <3 ya wols_
[15:10] <sandy1337> but :(
[15:10] <sandy1337> virtualbox installed but error in suplibosinit comes :(
[15:10] <TheDeza> My portable linux setup won't reconise my drive.
[15:10] <allandee> bahamas: do you see anything interesting in "dmesg | tail -24"?
[15:11] <Florin91> Hi! Here is my question: How to remove installed tasks from ubuntu ?
[15:11] <TheDeza> I can assess it in the file manager, but the option is greyed out.
[15:11] <bahamas> allandee: Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PNL, Firmware-ID: FW13
[15:12] <sandy1337> wols_
[15:12] <clean> hi, friends, I was asked how to monitor the state of a mutex with linux command in an interview, I was confused. Is there such a command? thanks
[15:12] <xangua> Florin91: what do you mena by 'instaled tasks' ¿
[15:12] <wols_> sandy1337: what is the exact error message?
[15:12] <allandee> bahamas: try to "tail -f /var/log/dmesg" then unplugging and plugging in your dongle
[15:12] <sandy1337> wols_ i installed the virtual box
[15:12] <krazykrivda> i'm lookin gat a script.. in the beginning of it it says. umask 003.. what does this mean/do?
[15:12] <sandy1337> and when i click on start
[15:13] <sandy1337> then error comes
[15:13] <bahamas> allandee: what dongle?
[15:13] <allandee> krazykrivda: it sets the default permissions for the child processes
[15:13] <krazykrivda> but what permissions are they?
[15:13] <sandy1337> virtual box linux kernal deriver is eier not loaded or there is permision probem with /dev/vobxdrv
[15:13] <hroi> NickServ says -NickServ- hroi is already registered.
[15:13] <hroi> so whats the point...
[15:13] <Pici> hroi: #freenode
[15:13] <allandee> allandee:  ok, fn-F2 to deactivate it and again to reactivate then
[15:13] <krazykrivda> allandee: ** what permissions is the equivalent to?
[15:13] <allandee> and I'm talking to myself again
[15:14] <bahamas> hroi: then you have to choose a different one
[15:14] <wols_> sandy1337: and that's why you follow the link pici gave you via ubottu in that extra window
[15:14] <Pici> hroi: its available to be dropped, you can ask for that in #freenode
[15:14] <hroi> bahamas: yeah... but I probably registered it already... just I need to find the login command.
[15:14] <bahamas> or what Pici said
[15:14] <allandee> allandee:  krazykrivda it's coded in octal, so the three positions are for owner/user, group, everyone
[15:15] <allandee> the permission flags are read, write, delete, sticky
[15:15] <bahamas> allandee: the wireless is integrated, so i don't have a dongle
[15:15] <allandee>  and the mask is inverted
[15:15] <allandee> bahamas: but you can press fn-F2 to turn it off?
[15:15] <allandee> and on
[15:15] <krazykrivda> allandee: soo.. 663?
[15:16] <allandee> allandee: you're coming on quite hard there, but ok, let's disco
[15:16] <allandee> I swear, it's this chat client.  I'm not prone to talk to myself this much.
[15:16] <Florin91> @xangua sudo apt-get install common-name^ or sudo tasksel
[15:16] <Typhaon> Hello y'all!  Are any of you familiar with Wubi install of Ubuntu?  After installing and booting, I get a "No Root File System" error and it won't finish installing.  Any idea how to fix this?  I saw some stuff on the forums to boot from a liveCD to do some troubleshooting, which is what I'm doing now.
[15:17] <allandee> bahamas: can  you see the adapter going offline and offline by tailing /var/log/dmesg then?
[15:17] <xangua> Florin91: sudo apt-get remove ¿
[15:17] <allandee> and online even
[15:17] <allandee>  que
[15:17] <xrfang> I am running natty.  In the program listing I see "Chrome" there, but I have already reinstalled system (/home is kept) and not installe Chrome anymore. how can I remove "broken" icons on unity's app list?
[15:18] <bahamas> allandee: i don't see any changes
[15:18] <tensorpudding> xrfang: see if there is a .desktop file for chrome in /usr/share/applications
[15:18] <allandee> xrfang: right click icon, uncheck the "keep in dock" thingy
[15:18] <Florin91> xangua what is after remove? what character?
[15:19] <xangua> Florin91: package name
[15:19] <allandee> bahamas: try to do an "lspci | grep -i broadcom" before turning off, then the same again after
[15:19] <xangua> Florin91: apt-get help
[15:20] <xrfang> tensorpudding, allandee, no I am not talking about the left bar, I am talking about a dead icon in the menu which comes out if you click the top left ubuntu icon, or hit the super key
[15:20] <bahamas> allandee: i assume that if it's turned off, it shouldn't show up anymore, right?
[15:20] <badboy__> hi all
[15:20] <allandee> that's the assumption we're testing, yea ;)
[15:20] <bahamas> allandee: it still does. do i need to press the keys longer?
[15:20] <tensorpudding> xrfang: pretty sure that the browser icon there represents the default browser you configured
[15:21] <Florin91> @xangua I heard of a bug ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[15:21] <allandee> bahamas: hm.  do you have an indicator light of sorts, for the wifi-thingy?
[15:21] <wols_> Florin91: run tasksel again and unselect the stuff you don't want
[15:21] <allandee> like a blue led somewhere
[15:21] <sandy1337> wols_
[15:21] <xrfang> tensorpudding, I doubt it, because I see both Chrome and Firefox. I will now confirm which is my default, although I am sure it is firefox :)
[15:22] <bahamas> allandee: btw, i've found this, but i don't know how relevant it is. http://www.beli.ws/blog/?p=360
[15:22] <sandy1337> how to uninstall any software from linux?
[15:22] <wols_> Florin91: all that tasksel does is installing a few packages via apt-get, you can easily check which packages are in each "task" and apt-get remove them. see man tasksel
[15:22] <bahamas> allandee: i'll check the manual because i can't see anything obvious
[15:22] <xangua> sandy1337: sudo apt-get remove
[15:22] <xrfang> tensorpudding, it is indeed firefox. and chrome is a broken icon :(
[15:22] <wols_> sandy1337: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/addremove-remove.html  why don't you read the links I give you. do you think I do this so you can ignore them?
[15:22] <Florin91> Yes. manually taking all of them one by one ...
[15:23] <tensorpudding> xrfang: you see firefox as the default browser in preferred applications?
[15:23] <xangua> sandy1337: have you ever clicked on the Help icon that comes  in ubuntu¿ i suggest you the manual as well
[15:23] <xrfang> tensorpudding, right.
[15:23] <xangua> !manual
[15:23] <sandy1337> no xangua
[15:23] <sandy1337> :(
[15:23] <sandy1337> thanks wolf :)
[15:24] <allandee> bahamas: it's relevant in the sense that getting most of the cheap broadcom adapters to work in OS X or Linux is a pain in the ass.  but it doesn't quite cover 4313 ;(
[15:24] <bahamas> allandee: nothing in the manual
[15:24] <sandy1337> <3 ya wolf_
[15:24] <Florin91> @wols Tasksel unselect I did it first ... gave some errors and after that I found the task sel page with that bug
[15:24] <bahamas> allandee: ah, okay
[15:24] <wols_> !errors
[15:25] <allandee> bahamas: if the fn-f2 is hardwired to shut down the broadcom-circuit, then watching /var/log/dmesg should say so
[15:25] <Nitax> what is the most active / stable GUI for ufw in 11.04?
[15:25] <allandee> what was the pci address again?
[15:26] <allandee> lspci
[15:26] <adamogle> hello
[15:26] <bahamas> allandee: 04:00.0
[15:27] <iridium> I'm having a problem adding a ssh rule to ipv6 and ip6tables, it keeps dropping the connection, doing the same on ipv4 with iptables works, any hint about this?
[15:29] <allandee> bahamas: I hate to ask this, but can you reboot, and look at the most recent entries in /var/log/dmesg, then modrpobe the new driver, and look again at the most recent lines in dmesg?
[15:29] <usr13> iridium: Show us the rule
[15:29] <oj_> is it a problem if apt-get update gives a lot of Ign (Ignore) results for links?
[15:29] <dr_willis> oj_:  Not really
[15:29] <dr_willis> oj_:  could be those are upto date.
[15:29] <wols_> oj_: depends
[15:30] <Typhaon> I'm trying to install Ubuntu using Wubi.  After installing and rebooting, I choose Ubuntu from the boot loader, and the moment Ubuntu loads I get a "No Root File System is defined" message.  Any idea how to fix this?  I'm running Windows 7, single HDD, no RAID.
[15:30] <oj_> all the natty updates links are almost all Ignored, so that means... they are up to date?
[15:30] <bahamas> allandee: sure, i'll do that
[15:30] <bahamas> brb
[15:30] <dr_willis> I get a lot of 'ign' for lines like ---> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-updates/universe Translation-en
[15:30] <dr_willis> still not sure what the translation-en stuff is.
[15:31] <salonkikelpoinen> ok, dudes.. i've been strugling a day to create bootable usb stick with ubuntu... so i wan't to create bootable usb from windows .iso image.. and i don't have the cd's .. that's why i am asking
[15:31] <salonkikelpoinen> any suggestions would be welcome
[15:31] <sw0rdfish> hey guys how do I enable javascript for firefox
[15:31] <dr_willis> salonkikelpoinen:  yoi want to put  windows 7 iso file on a USB flash?
[15:31] <jrib> sw0rdfish: did you disable it?
[15:32] <iridium> usr13, used this: ip6tables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[15:32] <bahamas> back
[15:32] <iridium> usr13, pastebin: http://pastebin.com/AaFgvCbg
[15:32] <allandee> salonkikelpoinen:  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[15:32] <jackalista> I'm having trouble getting wifi to connect on 11.04 on a dell latitude E6420, was given this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx but when I run the "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4" command here is no output.  Does this mean I don't have broadcom wireless?  any hlpe much appreciated
[15:32] <sw0rdfish> jrib, I don't know how to enable or disable, but a website my friend is working on needs JS enabled and I can't seem to see somethings that I should be........so we assumed maybe JS is disabled
[15:33] <sw0rdfish> can you plz tell me how to enable JS for firefox :)
[15:33] <jrib> sw0rdfish: JS is enabled by default
[15:33] <sw0rdfish> well to check...at least
[15:33] <ldr> jackalista sometimes the wlan card didnt show up when the switch on your laptop ist turned off afaik
[15:33] <jrib> sw0rdfish: unless you installed some sort of extension like noscript, this is not the issue
[15:34] <salonkikelpoinen> allandee, tried that, cannot do bootable stuff for windows
[15:34] <totos> hi how to read live text files?? i wont to read the file while its updatting plz
[15:34] <dr_willis> http://www.bodo.com/javacool.htm
[15:34] <wols_> totos: tail -f <file>
[15:34] <jrib> sw0rdfish: iirc, there's some sort of option in the preferences dialog for firefox about js
[15:34] <Pici> totos: tail -F
[15:34] <totos> thank u
[15:34] <HelloWorld321> What's a good package for remote viewing an Ubuntu desktop from a Windows 7 client?
[15:34] <bahamas> allandee: so i looked at /var/log/dmesg, did modprobe b43 and looked at dmesg again. i didn't see anything about broadcom this time
[15:34] <jackalista> ldr: well, I am able to use wifi with the win7 on the box, I am "trying" ubuntu as I need it to wor before installing
[15:34] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  vnc, or that teamviewer app. work well.
[15:35] <wols_> HelloWorld321: any vnc client
[15:35] <salonkikelpoinen> dr_willis: ok, i use ubuntu and wan't to create bootable installation media from iso
[15:35] <bryanox> how to format a usb with sudo command
[15:35] <sw0rdfish> jrib, yes I found it thank you very much......and as you said it already is enabled .......it must mean my friend's website is not ok hehe :D
[15:35] <allandee> I hate that.  ok, rmmod b43
[15:35] <bahamas> allandee: oh, wait. now i have wireless networks show up :D
[15:35] <wols_> jackalista: lspci -nn| less
[15:35] <allandee> o.O
[15:35] <dr_willis> salonkikelpoinen,  it totally depends on whats on the iso. SOME (not all) you can just 'dd' to the flash drive and they work
[15:36] <chenthu> can anyone tell me how to disable nouveau (like adding a  nouveau.modeset=0) during the boot of the installer usb or live usb....  (not
[15:36] <wols_> bryanox: like any other harddisk. sudo mkfs.<filesystem type> /dev/sdXY where XY is the proper partition
[15:36] <jackalista> wols_: thanks, will try that...
[15:36] <salonkikelpoinen> dr_willis: tried with dd but it seems that it does not make mbr for the stick, or i am missing some parameters
[15:36] <dr_willis> chenthu,  i seem to recall some kernel          nouveau.blacklist  option..
[15:37] <ministerdude> Why is Ubuntu stupid? If I want to instal software and it tells me to instal something else with it. How come I can't just say "ok... instal whatever... just make it work" ?
[15:37] <dr_willis> salonkikelpoinen,  dd only works with SOME disrto's iso files.
[15:37] <bryanox> can you explain plz i dont  know im new to linux
[15:37] <bahamas> allandee: i think i'm connected on wireless
[15:37] <wols_> !nomodeset
[15:37] <dr_willis> ministerdude,  give details as to what and how you are instaling it.
[15:37] <allandee> bahamas: I think I'm about to be happy
[15:37] <bahamas> allandee: anyway, thank you for your help and time. i appreciate it
[15:37] <ministerdude> Software center
[15:37] <bahamas> i should write this down somewhere for other poor souls
[15:37] <allandee> bahamas: much obliged, I hope it sticks
[15:37] <chenthu> dr_willis: how to do that?
[15:38] <bahamas> allandee: me too :)
[15:38] <dr_willis> chenthu,  do what?
[15:38] <deostroll> how do I find out if I have a ddr RAM or a sdr RAM?
[15:38] <jackalista> wols_: all that looks applivable i the Network controller, is that what I'm looking for?
[15:38] <chenthu> wols_: thank you
[15:38] <salonkikelpoinen> dr_willis: would like to make bootable hiren's boot cd first and then install xp... any ideas how to do that? ... googling for a second day and this seems to be very hard mission :)
[15:38] <allandee> bahamas; hah, there are roughy seven billion nine hundred and thirty seven million six hundred and fourtyseven thousand two hundred and fifty five people who tried that
[15:39] <deostroll> in other words, how do i find out what type of RAM I have?
[15:39] <allandee> it's just hard to find the right one
[15:39] <dr_willis> salonkikelpoinen,  assk in #windows perhaps. Ive no idea what hirends bootcd even is. that bootcd's homepage may have some forums.
[15:39] <bahamas> allandee: which part? writing down these steps?
[15:39] <chenthu> dr_willis:  i meant to create nouveau.blaclist file... thanks for the help... will try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 and then come back if it doesnt work ... :)
[15:39] <allandee> yes, or making hardware from unwilling manufacturers work outside of Windows
[15:40] <ministerdude> all I'm looking for is a simple beat maker. I write tunes and stuff and when I'm not with the band I'd like to have some killer beats yo'
[15:40] <dp> anyone know if there's a PPA for newer versions of perl?
[15:40] <milen8204> hello all, I have tried to install Ubuntu 11.04 from disk, and I could not I received error massage: uncompression error -- System halted
[15:40] <salonkikelpoinen> dr_willis, I assume they don't know much know how to do it in Linux :)
[15:40] <milen8204> anyone can help
[15:40] <bahamas> allandee: yeah, it's a pain.
[15:40] <dr_willis> chenthu,  its some kernel option you use from the grub menu.
[15:40] <dr_willis> salonkikelpoinen,  they  would know more about it then we would in here...
[15:40] <chenthu> dr_willis: yeah but thats only after install but i am trying to install and this itself is a big probs
[15:41] <bahamas> allandee: btw, do you remember all the steps that we did so far?
[15:41] <salonkikelpoinen> dr_willis: anyway thx for the help
[15:41] <bahamas> allandee: i know i cloned a git repo, and downloaded that driver with wget. i don't have the links anymore, though
[15:41] <ministerdude> Untrusted software "libportmidi0 libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 pykaraoke-bin python-mutagen python-pygame python-pykaraoke ttf-dejavu" Where do I get it and how do I make it instal
[15:41] <ParkerR> salonkikelpoinen, PM
[15:42] <allandee> bahamas: can't say  that I do.  yes, cloning the git repo is a good anchor, because it will not wither like releases of a distro does
[15:42] <dr_willis> chenthu,  you can give the bootcd/menus options also. For my nvidia systems - i normally just needed the nomodeset option. There is a specirfifc option to disable specififc modules also.  this does NOT have to be done on a allready instaled system.. it can work from the lviecd
[15:42] <allandee> I have the link to that driver, hang on
[15:42] <mensvaga> what cd ripping software is good?
[15:43] <jackalista> from running "lspci -nn| less" I get Network controller [0280] Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [8086:c22] (rev 34)
[15:43] <bahamas> allandee: if you can find the link to the repo, it would be great as well
[15:43] <dr_willis> chenthu,  for all my nvidia systems. ive had to use nomodeset option  for the last few releases.. I will mention that in 11.10 - i dont have to any more. :) they fixed some stuff.
[15:43] <allandee> http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.3_mipsel.tar.bz2
[15:43] <allandee> for the driver
[15:43] <chenthu> dr_willis:  i am very confident that i too require the nomodeset option cause thats what worked in my debian too.. but i was struggling how to edit it from the installer or liove cd menu now wols has given me the link and i found that so goona try
[15:44] <allandee> git://git.bu3sch.de/b43-tools.gi for the tools
[15:44] <dr_willis> chenthu,  the !nomodeset factoid has a url to guide with pictures..
[15:44] <dr_willis> its under the F6 optioons on the bootcd
[15:45] <jackalista> where can I find out how to get my wifi working, I am getting nowhere fast.  lspci -nn| less cmd produced only an Intel network controller
[15:45] <chenthu> dr_willis: yeah thats what wols gave me i am trying that... thank you
[15:47] <dp> anyone know if there's a PPA for newer versions of perl?
[15:47] <bahamas> allandee: great, thanks. these are the steps that i remember http://paste.pocoo.org/show/452613/
[15:48] <Zelda> can someone tell me if theres a application to throttle the CPU down, my CPU is running like mad 100% all the time and my notebook gets so hot. my fan is always at full speed
[15:48] <GirlyGirl> Zelda: powertop
[15:48] <xangua> dp: you can search on launchpad.net
[15:48] <Zelda> @girlygirl thanks ill try that
[15:49] <dr_willis> Zelda,  you may want to check th forums for that exact make laptop also. Could be some known bugs with some fix's out for it
[15:49] <dp> xangua: sadly, searching for perl on launchpad.net is not exactly helpful ;)
[15:49] <GirlyGirl> Zelda: You're welcome
[15:49] <Zelda> this is an HP 8510w
[15:49] <Zelda> Im having issues getting the HDMI to work as well.
[15:49] <allandee> bahamas: modprobe, even
[15:50] <allandee> bahamas: but the problem is that it was kind of specific to BroadCom 4313, and the firmware location is specific to Ubuntu.
[15:50] <allandee> but I really like the brevity
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows where to find error for theme change at boot in natty?
[15:51] <markmental> hi, I am having A problem with GNOME Office.
[15:51] <allandee> so "I got my bcm4313 to work with Ubuntu-something like this:" might land the searching soul right there
[15:51] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  check askubuntu.com and the forums yet? I recall some bug/issues with the gnome-settings-deamon crashing and causing theme change back to defaults.
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: yes thats the problem, it sets itself to default
[15:52] <mmarbut> i'm between a rock and a hard place
[15:52] <markmental> when i installed gnome office from the software center i couldn't find it
[15:53] <dr_willis> gnome office? Hmm.. You mean OpenOffice? or LibreOficce?
[15:53] <mmarbut> i either need to reinstall unity or make ubuntu boot to classic desktop all the time
[15:53] <markmental> no gnome office its in  the software center
[15:53] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever used it..
[15:53] <amit2222> hii
[15:53] <mmarbut> any ideas?
[15:53] <dr_willis> select classic at gdm login. and it rembers...
[15:54] <mmarbut> I only get that option if I boot to gnome recovery console
[15:54] <overrider_> Is anyone using the Slim Login Manager, and finds that apps are crashing (such as vim file.txt)?
[15:54] <dr_willis> reinstalling 'stuff' rarely fixes things. if its a user setting issue...
[15:54] <mmarbut> i managed to disable unity with compiz
[15:54] <amit2222> I am learning python.. I instaled idle 2.6 through software center.. would it conflict with python 2.7 installed by default on ubuntu
[15:54] <markmental> i open up office and no program called gnome office comes up just abiword and gnumeric I don't know how they got their
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[15:54] <FloodBot1> ikonia11: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <amit2222> I am learning python.. I instaled idle 2.6 through software center.. would it conflict with python 2.7 installed by default on ubuntu
[15:55] <bahamas> allandee: just wanted to say that it's clearly working because i'm now on wireless only
[15:55] <rumpe1> amit2222, are the differences so big? if you just started to learn, i doubt there would be a big difference
[15:55] <Duckfd> don't ping me for crap please
[15:55] <bahamas> allandee: thank you again
[15:55] <Pici> amit2222: no, it won't interfere.
[15:55] <allandee> bahamas: I am so glad to hear, and so happy to help ;)
[15:55] <amit2222> rumpel: i meant if they would not messup
[15:55] <markmental> could abiword and gnumeric be part of gnome office?
[15:55] <share> hi
[15:55] <RA_drc> ikonia: we are already in #ubuntu, why would you message us
[15:55] <bahamas> rumpe1: there are some differences but that's not what he's asking :)
[15:56] <JoshManders> Uhhhh, is there really a reason to spam this channel telling it's users to come to this channel?
[15:56] <Pici> RA_drc: Its spam, ignore it.
[15:56] <share> I suspended laptop without intention and now I can bring it back
[15:56] <amit2222> I was browsing ubuntu source .. a lot of new programmes seem written in python
[15:56] <Pici> JoshManders: Its spam, ignore it.
[15:56] <share> Help
[15:56] <agentdas> wifite takes awhile... 9 hours into a wpa crack
[15:56] <SkiOne> ikonia: what is up with the flood?
[15:56] <share> cant* :(
[15:56] <JoshManders> Pici: well yeah, I get that, but it's weird that he's spamming to bring people to THIS channel
[15:56] <bahamas> amit2222: yes, python is used a lot
[15:56] <GirlyGirl> ikonia: Why was I mentioned in such a flood?
[15:56] <amit2222> Pici: and rumpel thnx a lot
[15:57] <RA_drc> Pici: yeah, i know, but it doesn't make sense that ikonia would do taht
[15:57] <share> so lame
[15:57] <Pici> !botattack | GirlyGirl SkiOne
[15:57] <markmental> oh i just solved my own problem i opened up abiword and went to help and it said about gnome office
[15:57] <share> !suspension
[15:57] <Pici> RA_drc: Its not him, read the nick.
[15:57] <mmarbut> any idea how I can switch ubuntu perminantly to classic desktop
[15:57] <SkiOne> thanks
[15:57] <RA_drc> Pici: yeah, but that's ikonia real name, isnt it?
[15:57] <rumpe1> amit2222, installing from ppas is always a bit critical. I would recommend you first try to use the shipped version and later, if you are missing important features, decide again.
[15:57] <andycc> mmarbut: just run it in classic desktop mode once, and your preference will be remembered.
[15:58] <ldr> mmarbut http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTtn4PPT1e8
[15:58] <mmarbut> I only get that option if I boot to recovery mode
[15:58] <mmarbut> standard boot I have no options
[15:58] <amit2222> rumpel: the version supplied with ubuntu is good but not a dedicated ide like IDLE
[15:58] <chenthu> wols_ and dr_willis : thank you its working....
[15:58] <Pici> RA_drc: Its it not endorsed by him.  They could slap anyone's name on that.
[15:58] <mmarbut> I am running in "low graphics mode"
[15:59] <th0r> Pici: that's a shame, first time I was ever at the top of a list
[15:59] <mmarbut> then I get a classic desktop option
[15:59] <mmarbut> do I need to install another kernal?
[15:59] <RA_drc> ikonia: wow, these spammers are good
[16:00] <usr13> mmarbut: What display adapter are you using?
[16:00] <mmarbut> intel accelerated grahpics on an i3-540
[16:00] <dr_willis> chenthu,  i will be happy when its no longer needed. :)
[16:01] <usr13> mmarbut: lspci | pastebinit
[16:01] <CharlieSu> Hi. I'm on Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS and when I install the CouchDB package and then try to run /etc/init.d/couchdb stop I get 'cd: 88: can't cd to /root' and the service never stops.  Anyone know what this may be?
[16:01] <andycc> mmarbut: if you have auto-login enabled, use the "log out" option to get to the GDM screen.
[16:01] <jackalista> trying to install on dell latitude E6420, wifi not working, lspci -nn | less listed an Intel net controller, nothing else seems network related, how do I make this work?
[16:01] <usr13> marshall: ... and send us resulting URL
[16:01] <usr13> mmarbut: ... and send us resulting URL
[16:01] <mmarbut> I dont have auto-login enabled
[16:02] <usr13> mmarbut: Or do lspci and send relevant line
[16:03] <mmarbut> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12)
[16:03] <usr13> jackalista: Do you have wired connection now?
[16:04] <jackalista> usr13: no, but I can do... why?
[16:04] <usr13> mmarbut: That's interesting, doesn't give model number.
[16:04] <jackalista> usr13; I am on another bx now but can do wired if itwil help...??
[16:04] <mmarbut> jackalista: I had the same problem I downloaded a windows wireless drivers (ndiswrapper) from software center and used that
[16:05] <usr13> jackalista: It will help to get it connected. You will be able to install needed software.
[16:05] <mmarbut> my problem is actually with unity
[16:05] <mmarbut> I accedentally disabled it along with something else from compiz
[16:05] <usr13> jackalista: What kind of wifi adapter is it?
[16:05] <mmarbut> I like classic desktop better anyways
[16:05] <jackalista> usr13: & mmarbut: ok, I wil have to drop out of here and come back on that box
[16:06] <usr13> jackalista: ok
[16:06] <jackalista> usr13: Del Latitude E6420
[16:06] <chenthu> dr_willis: true me too.... i will be happy if its no longer needed..... but people cant keep supporting old hardware .....
[16:06] <geegeegee> ikonia, fuck off spamming people
[16:07] <geegeegee> faggot
[16:07] <jackalista> usr13: when I ran lspci -nn | less the only network related thing that showed up was an Intel network controller
[16:07] <mmarbut> jackalista: dell will allow you to download their wireless drivers with your service tag and you can use it with ndiswrapper
[16:08] <mmarbut> brb
[16:08] <jackalista> usr13: Network controller [0280] Intel Corp. Centrin Advanced-N 6205 [8086:0082] (rev 34)
[16:08] <je0rJey> how do i get activex controls in firefox?..  or is there any other browser in linux which supports it
[16:08] <usr13> jackalista: I think that is the ethernet device.
[16:09] <usr13> jackalista: lspci | pastebinit
[16:09] <usr13> jackalista: and send us resulting URL
[16:09] <jackalista> usr13: will drop out of here and come back on that dell box.. thanks for your help!! [I am semi exper. linux *user* but this is waaaay over my head]
[16:09] <usr13> ok
[16:09] <jackalista> usr13: resulting URL from what?
[16:10] <ldr> jackalista from posting lspci in pastebin
[16:11] <mmarbut> looks like I have an id10t error
[16:11] <ldr> !pastebin
[16:11] <jackalista> usr13: got it, I missed that coment, I'm new here too (load sof fun! ;)
[16:12] <usr13> jackalista: lspci | pastebinit  #And send resulting URL
[16:12] <usr13> jackalista: Are you on that box now?
[16:13] <chenthu> guys which froot filesystem should i be using to install ubuntu 11.04
[16:13] <chenthu> root*
[16:13] <jackalista> usr13: ok, will have to come back on that box wired, I need to apt-get pastebinit
[16:13] <usr13> ok
[16:14] <usr13> chenthu: ext3
[16:14] <Champion03> Ikonia sent me, and your channel stinks.
[16:14] <chenthu> usr13:  if using ext4 is wrong?
[16:15] <usr13> chenthu: ext4  Yes
[16:15] <hotface> ikonia is a fucking troll
[16:15] <usr13> chenthu: use ext4
[16:15] <chenthu> Champion03: please dont be rude
[16:15] <Champion03> Please do not allow regulars of your channel to spam #freenode with links to here.
[16:15] <edbian> ikonia: When did you become a troll?
[16:16] <usr13> Champion03: Leave
[16:16] <Champion03> Once, again, on behalf of #freenode, please do not permit regulars to spam #freenode
[16:16] <Champion03> From the freenode staff.
[16:16] <chenthu> usr13:  but it says "No root file system is defined"... do i have to select a mount point "/"?
[16:17] <usr13> Champion03: how do you expect us to control actions of others?
[16:17] <edbian> chenthu: At least one partition must be 'used as' /
[16:17] <usr13> chenthu: It is saying that you have not selected a partation for  /   (which is root directory)
[16:17] <CharlieSu> Is there a way to install a server package like MySQL or couchDB and tell the installer to NOT start the service after installation ?
[16:18] <edbian> CharlieSu: I don't think so.  but you can turn it off right away sudo service <name> stop
[16:19] <chenthu> edbian:  i have a 105 gb partition of my 320 gb hard disk for ubuntu and i have 4.4 gb swap partition for debian so do i have to create another swap space for ubuntu or will it use the 4.4 gb swap  partition?
[16:19] <CharlieSu> edbian: I can't actually..  when I install the CouchDB package and then try to run /etc/init.d/couchdb stop I get 'cd: 88: can't cd to /root' and the service never stops
[16:19] <edbian> chenthu: You do not need a new swap
[16:19] <dr_willis> chenthu,  if you use hibernate/suspend - then  You dont want to share the swap. otherwise you can
[16:19] <chenthu> usr13: ok
[16:19] <edbian> CharlieSu: there appears to be an error in the source code of couchdb
[16:19] <jrib> CharlieSu: only way that I know is to modify the postinst file :/
[16:20] <dr_willis> chenthu,  you could share the same 'home' partition if you really wanted to.
[16:20] <CharlieSu> edbian: yeah..  looks like it
[16:20] <CharlieSu> edbian: i think it is probably the init script ..
[16:20] <chenthu> edbian:  ok
[16:20] <edbian> dr_willis: That might cause problems with different versions of the same program writing different things into his home.
[16:20] <edbian> CharlieSu: try the sudo service <name> stop syntax
[16:20] <chenthu> dr_willis: i dont wanna share the home partition but i will be using hibernate so i think i create a new swap partition?
[16:22] <CharlieSu> edbian: i have.. doesn't work either
[16:22] <jrib> CharlieSu: with the same output?
[16:22] <chenthu> edbian: i dont wanna share the home partition but i will be using hibernate so i think i create a new swap partition?
[16:22] <edbian> CharlieSu: Then I'm not sure.
[16:23] <CharlieSu> jrib: no output...
[16:23] <CharlieSu> jrib: it says it is shutting down and it never does..
[16:23] <Osmodivs> Hello. I have a lots of fonts, and i am looking for one, but I can't find it in /usr/share/fonts, I know it has to be there somewhere because I can see it in libreOffice's writer, but i  want to use it in another program, How do i find out in what folder is located using the terminal?
[16:24] <jrib> CharlieSu: what is your end-goal?
[16:24] <edbian> chenthu: when you hibernate the system stores everything into the swap partition on the hdd then turns off.  When it boots it checks the swap for a valid hibernation image, if it finds one it boots that.  ubuntu will see Debian's hibernate image and not recognize it and erase it, Debian will do the same to ubuntu's hibernate image.  Does that make sense?  It's up to you if you want to have 2 swaps or one, there are pros / cons to both decisions
[16:25] <CharlieSu> jrib: Well I'm doing automation on AWS using Chef.  I want to use a custom data directory which means I need an entry in local.ini.  that file doesn't exists until after couch is installed..  I'm triggering a restart of the service once that file is replaced, but the shutdown script doesn't work...
[16:25] <jrib> CharlieSu: see if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/couchdb/+bug/448682 is relevant
[16:26] <jrib> CharlieSu: was there any error output when you installed it?
[16:26] <CharlieSu> jrib: no there wasn't any error when I installed it..
[16:27] <dr_willis> edbian,  use differnt user names. :)
[16:27] <CharlieSu> jrib: I'm on Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS using a fresh install.  I used the package manager to install
[16:27] <edbian> dr_willis: clever!
[16:28] <CharlieSu> jrib: i don't think that bug is the reason
[16:28] <jrib> CharlieSu: can you pastebin the init script?
[16:28] <CharlieSu> jrib: yes..  one moment..
[16:28] <CharlieSu> jrib: give me 5.. i'll fire up a new instance
[16:28] <jrib> CharlieSu: also, when you said  you ran "/etc/init.d/couchdb stop", did you run that with sudo?
[16:29] <jrib> CharlieSu: ok
[16:29] <CharlieSu> jrib: haha yes..
[16:29] <CharlieSu> jrib: well w/ sudo and as root.. tried both
[16:29] <jrib> CharlieSu: are you calling it from just the default gnome-terminal with default bash shell?
[16:29] <CharlieSu> jrib: no GUI's ever...  bash..
[16:29] <jrib> although I guess that wouldn't matter.. I'll wait for the script
[16:29] <sneakyimp> Can anyone tell me what the 'landscape' account is for?  My tiger report says "Login ID landscape appears to be a dormant account".  I'm inclined to delete this user -- would that break anything?
[16:29] <chenthu> edbian and dr_willis : sry i got disconnected....
[16:30] <edbian> chenthu: no worries
[16:30] <sipior> sneakyimp: just disable the login, if you want.
[16:30] <chenthu> dr_willis and edbian: i dont wanna share the home partition but i will be using hibernate so i think i create a new swap partition?
[16:31] <chenthu> edbian: or can i use the other swap partition though i might be using hibernate... ?\
[16:31] <researcher123456> hello everybody
[16:31] <sneakyimp> sipior: thx.  "disable" the login?  As in set default shell to /bin/false?
[16:31] <researcher123456> may I ask questions here?
[16:31] <jackalista> usr13: what was that command again?  lspci | paste<something>?
[16:31] <dr_willis> be sure swap parittion is size of ram. (or bigger) to hiernate
[16:32] <sipior> sneakyimp: that, and set the password entry in /etc/shadow to "*"
[16:32] <sneakyimp> sipior:  thx!  rep++
[16:32] <dr_willis> theres command line tools to do that shadow file editing..
[16:32] <dr_willis> its not a good idea to be editing it by hand.
[16:33] <chenthu> dr_willis: ok thanks you
[16:33] <researcher123456> is it possible to install more systems with better GUI at login ?
[16:33] <sipior> dr_willis: big boys manage just fine :-) but yes, "passwd -l" will also work.
[16:34] <jackalista> hi folks, I was reccommended to run lspci | pastebinit, not sure if that paste<something> is correct, can someone please clarify?  thx!
[16:34] <CharlieSu> jrib: http://pastebin.com/04W2KRsd
[16:35] <dr_willis> jackalista,  pastebinit is a command you install.
[16:35] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[16:35] <jackalista> dr_willis: thx!
[16:36] <jrib> CharlieSu: by the way, to answer your original question, there appears to be a way to stop daemons from being started when they are installed: apparently just create /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d with "#!/bin/sh; exit 101"
[16:36] <jackalista> ubottu: thx!!
[16:36] <CharlieSu> jrib: interesting.  and I can leave that file there forever?
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[16:36] <FloodBot1> ikonia13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:37] <Calinou> he left, lol
[16:37] <head_victim> Awww someone loves ikonia
[16:37] <Demonen> I'm guessing ikonia[0-9]+ is not operated by ikonia?
[16:37] <maco> Demonen: bingo
[16:37] <tensorpudding> lol
[16:37] <Hyperbyte> Hi!  Ubuntu 11.04.  NFS mount specified in /etc/fstab, but boot takes an insanely long time, because it can't resolve the NFS server.  When I mount it right after boot, it works fine.  Seems like it's trying to mount NFS before the network is initialized properly?  Any hints?
[16:37] <tensorpudding> spamming #ubuntu to visit #ubuntu?
[16:38] <maco> tensorpudding: spammers are stupid
[16:38] <jdevel> lol
[16:38] <jdevel> I know
[16:38] <sipior> tensorpudding: spamming the whole of freenode, in fact.
[16:38] <Demonen> Originally I came here to rant and rave about how ikonia should be shot, but it suddenly hit me that that's what the operator of these bots want :-P
[16:38] <sipior> well, some large subset of it.
[16:38] <Demonen> #Perl was hit just now
[16:38] <dr_willis> Hyperbyte,  one 'work around' would be to use /etc/rc.local and a command to mount it.  after perhaps a sleep 20 line, to make sure network is all working.
[16:38] <jackalista> dr_willis: I tried to apt-get install pastebinit and got "E: Unable to locate package pastebinit", how do I find it?
[16:38] <dr_willis> Hyperbyte,  i seem to recall some other fix's also.
[16:38] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[16:39] <dr_willis> jackalista,  make sure your 'universe' repository is enabled.
[16:39] <adam11x> what directories should i backup to restore programs and configs after ubuntu reinstall?
[16:39] <jackalista> dr_willis: how do I do that?
[16:39] <dr_willis> !universe
[16:39] <Hyperbyte> dr_willis, I'd prefer a fix rather than workaround, because this machine is an LTSP server and I bet other services are having problems too with this.  Any ideas? :)
[16:39] <chenthu> dr_willis: should swap be primary or logical?
[16:40] <jrib> CharlieSu: the way I read it (here's a link that's not an e-mail: http://people.debian.org/~hmh/invokerc.d-policyrc.d-specification.txt) scripts usually call invoke-rc.d but if you have policy-rc.d that gets called.  I'm not sure where else invoke-rc.d is called and don't know what the consequences would be
[16:40] <dr_willis> Hyperbyte,  not really. i saw it mentioned once about delaying things untill networking is up. but never had to mess with it.
[16:40] <dr_willis> chenthu,  dosent matter.
[16:40] <th0r> adam11x: all the configs should be in your home directory. As to the software, see aptoncd
[16:40] <chenthu> dr_willis: ok thanks
[16:40] <Hyperbyte> dr_willis, hrm... network-manager is 'off' in chkconfig.  Could this have something do with it?
[16:41] <dr_willis> Hyperbyte,  no idea. ive rarely had to mess with the boot/service orders.
[16:41] <Hyperbyte> Hrm...
[16:41] <Hyperbyte> Okay
[16:41]  * Hyperbyte tries. :)
[16:41] <adam11x> th0r: thanks ill take a look
[16:41] <jrib> CharlieSu: my guess is it is not smart to leave it there as scripts might want to do things like restart a service and won't be able to use invoke-rc.d to do so
[16:42] <dr_willis> theres always the forums and askubuntu.com Hyperbyte  - i bet this q. has been asked befor on those. :)
[16:43] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:43] <Hyperbyte> dr_willis, true.  Thanks.
[16:43] <CharlieSu> jrib: any clue about that init script?
[16:45] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: To wait for network to be up, sleepy-loop and do a single ping, checking the return code.
[16:45] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: Of course, ping the host you need to be up.
[16:46] <jrib> CharlieSu: well it's kind of weird that it says it can't "cd to /root" when it shouldn't be trying to anywhere that I see :/
[16:46] <CharlieSu> jrib: yeah i hear ya.  I'm not sure either.  I promise I'm not doing anything stupid....
[16:47] <Demonen> jrib: Where is effective ~?
[16:47] <Demonen> Also, what are you talking about?
[16:47] <jrib> CharlieSu: is there a couch script in /etc/init?
[16:48] <johwil> Is there a way to programm the iPhone using Ubuntu?
[16:48] <jrib> Demonen: when CharlieSu executes "/etc/init.d/couchdb stop" he gets: 'cd: 88: can't cd to /root' and the service never stops
[16:48] <jrib> Demonen: init script in question: http://pastebin.com/04W2KRsd
[16:48] <CharlieSu> jrib: no there isn't.
[16:48] <sneakyimp> I'm using tiger for a security audit.  It complains "/etc/profile does not export an initial setting for PATH".  Does /etc/profile really need to set a PATH?
[16:49] <sneakyimp> johwil: not any apple-sanctioned way.
[16:49] <johwil> :(
[16:49] <jrib> sneakyimp: tiger?
[16:49] <jrib> sneakyimp: never mind
[16:49] <sneakyimp> jrib:  apt-cache search tiger
[16:50] <johwil> CharlieSu: :(
[16:50] <Hyperbyte> Demomen, the problem is that it boots all network services without bringing the network up.
[16:50] <jrib> johwil: google saurik sdk linux (maybe)
[16:50] <sneakyimp> johwil: can you afford a mac mini?  that's all you need really.  or a 'hackintosh'.  the dev tools are free.  however, there is a $99 charge to publish any apps.
[16:51] <Hyperbyte> I can't go around modifying all network services to do a sleep until it gets a ping...
[16:51] <johwil> jrib Thanks
[16:51] <CharlieSu> jrib: ok here is a brand new install with example shutdown commands...  https://gist.github.com/221392084895b5f01e32
[16:51] <Hyperbyte> Well I suppose I could, but it's not very feasible.
[16:52] <jrib> CharlieSu: hmm, this kind of reminds me of that bug
[16:52] <Demonen> CharlieSu, jrib: That error isn't coming from that script... Something else is being invoked.  Tried manually executing the shutdown command?
[16:52] <Hyperbyte> Someone running Ubuntu 11.04, could they show me the output of   chkconfig --all networking   and   chkconfig -all network-manager   please?
[16:52] <CharlieSu> Demonen: what other command?
[16:53] <jrib> Hyperbyte: I have no such command
[16:53] <CharlieSu> jrib: yeah i guess so.. Also line 11 has that error..  far right...
[16:53] <Hyperbyte> What's the normal command in Ubuntu to control startup services? :)
[16:54] <CharlieSu> Demonen: what do you mean by 'manually executing the shutdown command' ?
[16:54] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, service networking status
[16:54] <johwil> sneakyimp: Hackingtosh, Never heard of it. Is it ANY GOOD?
[16:54] <jrib> CharlieSu: can you confirm you tried https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/couchdb/+bug/453049/comments/10 with no positive results?
[16:54] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, likewise for network-manager
[16:55] <Demonen> CharlieSu: su couchdb -c "/usr/bin/couchdb -d"
[16:55] <sneakyimp> johwil:  it's a generic term for installing OSX on non-mac hardware.  try googling hackintosh.  ideally, you get OSX running on really nice hardware without paying the ridiculous apple price for it
[16:55] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, networking stop/waiting, network-manager running
[16:55] <Demonen> CharlieSu: Swap "couchdb" with whatever the actual user it runs as is
[16:56] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, network manager starts, just not at the right time I believe.
[16:56] <CharlieSu> Demonen: it gives me 'Apache CouchDB is not running.'
[16:56] <CharlieSu> Demonen: and it is.
[16:56] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, I haven't followed from the beginning, so I don't know exactly what you're trying to do
[16:56] <Demonen> CharlieSu: Wonky.  Sure you gave it the right user?
[16:57] <CharlieSu> Demonen: actually look
[16:57] <CharlieSu> https://gist.github.com/a8e371a0331361980991
[16:57] <johwil> sneakyimp:  Great! Thanks. I eill start programming apps for my own use...
[16:57] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, basically, I moved my harddisk over to a new server.  Everything works, except for the tiny detail that all network services are starting when there seems to be no network.
[16:57] <Hyperbyte> After boot (which takes around 5 minutes due to all kinds of timeouts needing to finish), I can get a prompt and networking is up.
[16:58] <Demonen> CharlieSu: It is as I said, then.  The problem is -not- in the init script, but in the bowls of couchdb.   It probably looks for it's pidfile in ~ or something, and is not allowed in /root/
[16:58] <Demonen> CharlieSu: What's couchdb's homedir?
[16:58] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, and you would want the network service to be disabled on boot ?
[16:58] <Demonen> CharlieSu: The user, that is?
[16:58] <jrib> CharlieSu: can you « cd / » and attempt that again?
[16:58] <CharlieSu> couchdb:x:107:113:CouchDB Administrator,,,:/var/lib/couchdb:/bin/bash
[16:59] <jrib> ah wait, I see what's happening -_-
[16:59] <CharlieSu> https://gist.github.com/6167319187ce688f8822
[16:59] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, definitely not.  It's a server, it's network should be always up.  It just needs to start it before it tries nfsmount, ypbind, etc..
[16:59] <Demonen> Right, and /var/lib/couchdb exists and is readable and writable by couchdb?
[16:59] <CharlieSu> jrib: it is still running..
[16:59] <CharlieSu> Demonen: yes it is...
[16:59] <CharlieSu> Access: (0770/drwxrwx---)  Uid: (  107/ couchdb)   Gid: (  113/ couchdb)
[16:59] <Demonen> CharlieSu: Go there and try again?
[17:00] <CharlieSu> nothing
[17:00] <Demonen> nothing is good.
[17:00] <Demonen> Did it stop?
[17:00] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, in that  case you'll have to modify the upstart scripts for the network service
[17:00] <Demonen> If so, then it was just failing to find it's pidfile.