[12:04] <rdw200169> andy_33: you can use nmap
[12:04] <andy_33> andy_33: yeah, but I dont know the command :/
[12:04] <siloko> erisco: not off the top of my head - ubuntuforums would be a good place to start
[12:04] <genii> soothsayer: Mailutils provides a commandline mail function so you can do: mail -s "subject" someone@somewhere <text here>
[12:04] <siloko> erisco: it's a very common thing to do
[12:05] <rdw200169> andy_33: use something like nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[12:05] <erisco> siloko, I hear it is a good setup. Is it something I have to worry about before or after I make all the necessary partitions?
[12:05] <soothsayer> genii: Thanks.
[12:05] <siloko> erisco: if you do it from sys install most installers even let you do as part of the preinstal partitioning
[12:05] <genii> soothsayer: np
[12:05] <erisco> siloko, I will just be using parted
[12:05] <siloko> erisco:  on an existing install?
[12:05] <rdw200169> andy_33, it'll find hosts, even behind personal-firewalls...
[12:06] <shiznit> parted works great off the livecd
[12:06] <erisco> siloko, nope. Everything is being hosed and reloaded
[12:06] <shiznit> much better than the installed
[12:06] <shiznit> installer
[12:06] <andy_33> rdw200169:  Failed to find device eth1 which was referenced in /proc/net/route
[12:06] <siloko> erisco: then it's very straight forward
[12:06] <siloko> erisco: create the partiton during the install
[12:06] <andy_33> rdw200169:  it scanned 256 ip addresses and 0 hosts came up:\
[12:06] <rdw200169> andy_33, of course, use your subnet
[12:06] <Boumboum5> erisco: Hm. if the purpose is simply to presever all the files in /home, what I would do is create a new partition for it, the copy all the files in /home to the new partition. Then you can wipe the old one and upgrade ubuntu over it.  Do you want more details on how to do that?
[12:06] <GNine> to say ubuntu is great but it has a lot of bugs .. is an oxymoron..  i say the most probable cause of your issues is :  human error
[12:06] <erisco> siloko, yes... and at which stage do I setup /home to be on the other partition?
[12:06] <siloko> erisco: and simply tell the installer you want that partition to be your home dir
[12:07] <godzirra> Eagleray: any ideas what to do now?
[12:07] <Thegeektechnique> question... Do you think adobe illustrator cs2 will work with the new version of WINE?
[12:07] <andy_33> rdw200169:  subnet, what? :x
[12:07] <Eagleray> godzirra: back, sorry - had a phonecall
[12:07] <rdw200169> andy_33, what's your ip and subnet?
[12:07] <erisco> siloko, you sure it prompts me for that?
[12:07] <andy_33> rdw200169:  my ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:07] <Eagleray> godzirra: hold up while I scroll back and read your comments
[12:07] <GNine> check thyself before you wreck thyself
[12:07] <andy_33> rdw200169:  I don't know what subnet is tho
[12:07] <rdw200169> andy_33, ok, try nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[12:07] <siloko> erisco: if you choose custom partitioning you can do what you like
[12:07] <godzirra> Eagleray: sure thing.  (Basiclaly it can't build the nvidia module from the shell script because it s unable to load nvidia.ko)
[12:08] <siloko> erisco: if you let the installer do it for you - then you'll get it all on one partition ;)
[12:08] <rdw200169> andy_33: the /24 = <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:08] <andy_33> rdw200169:  ah, thats the ip range?
[12:08] <purity> semidios - so if you type in ls -al /path_to_share what information do you get for the file you have tried to copy over?
[12:08] <erisco> siloko, hmm alright I will take a look. lets say that /home was not setup properly and was put on the same partition as /
[12:08] <Boumboum5> erisco: once the new partition is created and mounted, you can dreate the /home directory by typine /mkdir home    it's not actually /home but a duplicate in another directory. Would that soit your needs? You can copy back after the install.
[12:08] <erisco> siloko, will I be able to correct it afterwards?
[12:08] <siloko> erisco: yes
[12:08] <rdw200169> andy_33, i don't know, i'm guessing, but it will work anyway, and just have errors to the network ip's that are unroutable
[12:08] <andy_33> rdw200169:  K, is it any way I can resolve the ip's into the host name?
[12:09] <Boumboum5> the installer does, if you select "manual partitioning"
[12:09] <erisco> siloko, okay I will give it a whirl. thanks
[12:09] <Woet> Hello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk
[12:09] <rdw200169> andy_33, not really, unless there's a dns server somewhere tracking them
[12:09] <erisco> Boumboum5, thanks.
[12:09] <siloko> erisco: good luck :)
[12:09] <Eagleray> godzirra: it _should_ be recompiling that on its own
[12:09] <godzirra> GNine: Its a spell you cast in wizardry to heal your characters.
[12:09] <bascule> GNine: 2 os di 2 os .. maybe :)
[12:09] <godzirra> Eagleray: its not  :)
[12:09] <rdw200169> andy_33, which i doubt seriously on a local network...
[12:09] <Boumboum5> good luck erisco :)
[12:09] <soothsayer> genii: Do you know, is there an alternative to the 'mailutils' package that provides a command for sending mail and has fewer dependencies (13.4MB to install mailutils)
[12:10] <andy_33> rdw200169:  truer
[12:10] <Eagleray> godzirra: can you give me a step-by-step of what you're doing, where it fails, and with what error?
[12:10] <Semidios> purity, -rwxrwxrwx 1 root users    0  2007-10-01  17:08
[12:10] <alcaponage> I have a question
[12:10] <Woet> Hello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk
[12:10] <Eagleray> rdw200169: yup
[12:10] <alcaponage> How do I get the menu down on the bottom?
[12:10] <genii> soothsayer: Well, it also installs other things, the BSD mail handling utilities.
[12:10] <Boumboum5> soothsayer: this probably isn't what you are looking for, but I use webmail myself---browser-based mail.....hotmail, yahoo, and google all provide them.
[12:10] <alcaponage> Like the firefox
[12:10] <oxeimon> rdw200169: so yeah, that mathworks site didn't help, but thank you so much for all your help
[12:11] <Woet> Hello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk
[12:11] <alcaponage> How do I make it so it looks like the mac osx?
[12:11] <bascule> Woet: look into fish
[12:11] <GNine> i know semi = 18 wheeler = tractor truck , dios : does not compute
[12:11] <genii> soothsayer: If you need command-line mail functions however, you need the mailutils package
[12:11] <rdw200169> Eagleray, i find that Ubuntu has a lot fewer than others...
[12:11] <soothsayer> Boumboum5: No it isn't what I'm looking for.
[12:11] <purity> semidios - what happens if you put a file in the share from the linux box and copy it over to the mac, from the mac
[12:11] <oxeimon> rdw200169: I think I'm going to take a break now, and probably come back to this some other time.
[12:11] <godzirra> sh Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run, accept license agreement, Tell it to go ahead even though there's a driver on the system (it detects the newer version), tell it I dont want to check online for one, hit ok when it doesnt find a precompiled kernel interface, (then it starts trying to build and fails)
[12:11] <Eagleray> rdw200169: It has tons less than many do
[12:11] <siloko> alcaponage: rightclick the panel - properties - orientation - choose bottom
[12:11] <Malberto> Woet: don't make flood please !
[12:11] <soothsayer> genii: Okay, thanks. That was my question.
[12:11] <Eagleray> rdw200169: but there are still a lot there
[12:11] <Eagleray> rdw200169: part of that's due to it being based on debian unstable
[12:11] <lucas_> hi. i updated to xorg 7.3 and now the "enie" key doesn't work. it is a spanish key
[12:11] <rdw200169> Eagleray, and ubuntu has just about the strongest user-base...
[12:12] <bascule> lucas_: get a grip
[12:12] <Eagleray> rdw200169: and part of that's the inclusion of bleeding edge software without a long testing period
[12:12] <genii> soothsayer: np
[12:12] <lucas_> bascule: what?
[12:12] <Eagleray> rdw200169: yup, by far the largest desktop userbase
[12:12] <tdizzy> hello
[12:12] <bascule> !es | lucas_
[12:12] <ubotu> lucas_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:12] <erisco> one more question :P
[12:12] <tdizzy> can anyone help me with a problem?
[12:12] <rdw200169> Eagleray, and that's what's gonna cause both problems and solutions...
[12:12] <Boumboum5> alcaponage: I found a trick for that.....http://image.google.com   do an image search... term "ubuntu osx theme OR themes"....it will show a bunch of images of desktops that look like OSX and you can pick the one you like... chances are, it's on a website that lists what theme that is and how to get it.
[12:12] <EricT> hi all. I just installed Ubuntu on my new shiny poweredge 2950 server - it recognizes the ethernet cards fine, but now i need assistance configuring them. i know all the proper IP's and stuff. can someone assist me?
[12:12] <erisco> say I install a package that is 2GB. Is this space taken from / or /home?
[12:13] <Eagleray> rdw200169: indeed...
[12:13] <erisco> where is the bulk of the package installed to?
[12:13] <soothsayer> genii: On second thought, surely there must be an alternative? mailutils is pulling in guile and mysql.
[12:13] <rdw200169> Eagleray, but at least the ubuntuforums are quick to find an answer to obscure things...
[12:13] <siloko> erisco: /
[12:13] <lucas_> bascule: im not looking for help in spanish. i just want to know how to change my keyboard layout
[12:13] <Eagleray> rdw200169: Yep. #ubuntu's also pretty good most of the time
[12:13] <erisco> siloko, hmm. A ubuntu install is how many gigs? 2-3?
[12:13] <alcaponage> siloko: How do i make it look like the picture in herehttp://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php
[12:13] <bascule> lucas_: 'enie' key 'any' key, try somewhere more clueless
[12:13] <godzirra> erisco: depends what you install.
[12:13] <heguru> EricT: you installed ubuntu-server or ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:13] <Boumboum5> soothsayer: there are a number of mail programs for linux. I do not know enough to compare or know which suits your needs best. There's dozens of them, I know that.
[12:13] <D4N`> hi
[12:13] <Eagleray> rdw200169: it's why I tend to hang out here sometimes rather than #debian, #debian is a lot slower
[12:13] <godzirra> erisco: you  can probably get one under 500 megs if you tried.  you just woudlnt have x :)
[12:13] <carlosV2> hi
[12:14] <siloko> erisco: some people create a partition for /usr/local which holds a lot of use application data - but most sys packages go off root
[12:14] <rdw200169> oxeimon: you did add your license information to the license file, right?
[12:14] <andy_33> rdw200169:  under <IP_ADDRESS> it says MAC Address: xx.x.x.x.x.x..x.x  (NextGenTel Holding ASA)
[12:14] <lucas_> bascule: asshole
[12:14] <EricT> heguru, ubuntu-server amd64
[12:14] <Semidios> purity, it opens on the mac just fine.  copys over great.
[12:14] <godzirra> well crap.
[12:14] <andy_33> rdw200169:  Can i say for sure that it's not a windows computer?
[12:14] <godzirra> My X is now broken and I cant fix it this time.
[12:14] <heguru> EricT: will the IP's be static or dhcp?
[12:14] <EricT> static
[12:14] <andy_33> andy_33:  i'm pretty confused
[12:14] <soothsayer> Boumboum5: My need is to send mail from a script.
[12:14] <tdizzy> i accidentally deleted a partition (my ubuntu one) and then was able to restore it using TestDisk. all my files are back but it wont load to the boot list and just boots to windows. how to i restore my ability to boot into ubuntu?
[12:14] <heguru> EricT: type sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[12:14] <erisco> godzirra, siloko, I was planning on my / partition to be 10GB... perhaps I want to allow 20GB or so in the event that I have large apps to install
[12:14] <EricT> i'v been in there
[12:14] <GNine> minimum is 5gig.. but you'll endup at 12-15 gigs anyways (for an average desktop system) , erisco
[12:14] <rdw200169> andy_33, don't know
[12:14] <heguru> EricT: you have to put the configuration in there
[12:15] <carlosV2> i'm doing a script and i need to know if user execute it with 'sudo ./script' or only with './script' (or with './script' in root acount). is it posible?
[12:15] <EricT> right. i *think* i did it right
[12:15] <darkchr0n0s> !grub
[12:15] <siloko> erisco: my root is about a gig, my /usr is about 2.75 gigs and my /home is 1.3 pretty tidy really
[12:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:15] <godzirra> erisco: that works.  I've got X installed and I've got 3.4 gigs used currently.
[12:15] <rdw200169> andy_33, the mac will only tell you who manufactured the NIC
[12:15] <EricT> but lest, it doesn't work
[12:15] <darkchr0n0s> !grub | tdizzy
[12:15] <daylighter> carlosV2: it will tell you if you need root privs or not
[12:15] <ubotu> tdizzy: please see above
[12:15] <EricT> i also tried restarting networking
[12:15] <andy_33> rdw200169:  NIC being?
[12:15] <tdizzy> thank you
[12:15] <erisco> godzirra, the 10gb or the 20?
[12:15] <Boumboum5> erisco: umm...that's kinda hard to answer....it's like saying "wow, how'd they fit all those people into that little television box?"....oh..you mean what directory..../home/yourname  whatever yourname is on your install.
[12:15] <heguru> EricT: paste the contents of your interfaces file to pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:15] <rdw200169> andy_33, network interface card
[12:15] <godzirra> erisco: either one.  as I said, I'm only using 3.4gigs.
[12:15] <atlfalcons866> how can i convert jfs to ext3
[12:16] <D4N`> interest
[12:16] <carlosV2> daylighter, the script is done by me
[12:16] <andy_33> rdw200169:  thanks :)
[12:16] <rdw200169> andy_33, nmap can do a lot more than just scan IP ranges, but it's a difficult tool to use,
[12:16] <X3n> hi there, im just wondering, sometimes when i run rythmbox it doesnt play any sound, why is this?
[12:16] <erisco> siloko, are things in /usr separate from ubuntu? Could I upgrade / to 7.10 when it comes out and everything in /usr still is compatible?
[12:16] <tomw> good evening. Anyone know what has happened to the automatix website?
[12:16] <andy_33> rdw200169:  yeah, I'm trying to locate a windows computer on my network
[12:16] <carlosV2> i want to say to user if needs to execute it like su before 'sudo' comands executes
[12:16] <X3n> its pretty random, but no sound is playing now either
[12:16] <andy_33> rdw200169:  cant seem how to find it tho xD
[12:16] <LjL> tomw: we don't know and we honestly don't care
[12:16] <godzirra> Eagleray: sooo any ideas?
[12:16] <LjL> !automatix > tomw    (tomw, see the private message from Ubotu)
 what have you put in your /etc/exports file?
[12:16] <siloko> erisco: it's part of the system
[12:17] <rdw200169> andy_33, the other use, i use a lot, is the port-scanner, nmap -sS IP
[12:17] <Boumboum5> yes siloko is correct.......they go off root if they're "for everyone" and they go of /home/yourname if it's just for you (I THINK)
[12:17] <darkchr0n0s> !automatix
[12:17] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:17] <Woet> i just installed ultraedit via wine (a texteditor), how do i start it now??
[12:17] <erisco> siloko, so why do you have yours separated?
[12:17] <andy_33> rdw200169:  yeah, but it's illegal doing port scans, aint it?
[12:17] <Eagleray> godzirra: can you tell me the exact stage you are failing at, and any errors?
[12:17] <darkchr0n0s> Woet : type ultraedit in console
[12:17] <shiznit> i installed automatix on my first ubuntu install and it broke upgrade
[12:17] <carlosV2> daylighter, there are some comand like 'who' that allows to do it?
[12:17] <shiznit> i wish i would have known
[12:17] <Boumboum5> tdizzy: I've been dealing with just that problem myself today.....:)  I can help...
[12:17] <X3n> why does rythmbox sometimes not play any sound when playing mp3's??
[12:17] <Eagleray> godzirra: I asked this before, but not sure if you spotted it
[12:17] <godzirra> Eagleray: It fails after it says its 100% done building.
[12:17] <atlfalcons866> how can i convert jfs to ext3
[12:17] <godzirra> Eagleray: I don't tihnk I did.
[12:18] <erisco> siloko, or do you?
[12:18] <daylighter> I am not sure carlosV2
[12:18] <godzirra> Eagleray: in the shell script.
[12:18] <tomw> Ljl: sorry for wasting your time. I'll make sure it never happens again.  Thanks for being nice about it.
[12:18] <Semidios> purity, /media/Media <IP_ADDRESS>/24 (rw,insecure,no_root_squash,async)
[12:18] <EricT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39311/
[12:18] <Boumboum5> tdizzy: you probably need to repair GRUB, which is what boots ubunto.
[12:18] <carlosV2> ok daylighter, np. thank you :)
[12:18] <Eagleray> godzirra: is it trying to re-use anything in /tmp?
[12:18] <rdw200169> andy_33, not when it's MY network...
[12:18] <EricT> heguru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39311/
[12:18] <Naxa> hi
[12:18] <andy_33> rdw200169:  yeah, that being the exception, sorry
[12:18] <godzirra> Eagleray: how would I know that? :)
[12:18] <siloko> erisco: yes i do - more for hygiene really - when i say it's part of the system it's more the application stuff
[12:18] <Boumboum5> tdizzy: the URL on how is at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntoAfterinstallingWindows
[12:18] <EricT> thats not a paste, since i can't paste from DRAC5, but thats the contents, minus the comments
[12:18] <Eagleray> godzirra: try nuking anyting that looks likely in /tmp before running the shell script
[12:18] <carlosV2> bye ;)
[12:18] <godzirra> ok.
[12:18] <genii> Bah was going to suggest Nail as a commandline alternative for mailutils but soothsayer left now
[12:19] <rdw200169> andy_33, are you trying to scan and ISP's subnet or something?
[12:19] <Eagleray> godzirra: if you're not sure, just reboot - that will nuke /tmp automatically
[12:19] <siloko> erisco: but everything remains compatable when you upgarde - don't worry
[12:19] <Naxa> How can I see my remote X from here? I've tryied ssh -X host but the problem is that X is already running.
[12:19] <erisco> siloko, well the purpose of me separating /home from / on different partitions is to preserve my own files
[12:19] <P_Kable> anybody knows why there is no longer thumbnails displayed for my *cr2 files since 2 days ???
[12:19] <andy_33> rdw200169:  I'm just trying to figure out the ip of a windows computer connected to my network
[12:19] <siloko> erisco: the fact it is on a different partition makes NO difference to a version upgrade :)
[12:19] <erisco> siloko, are you saying if I back up /usr it will preserve my applications as well or something?
[12:19] <godzirra> Eagleray: ok, let me try that and I'll try reinstalling the old vcersion.
[12:19] <godzirra> version
[12:19] <sensae> Hello
[12:19] <erisco> siloko, yeah but I like to wipe it clean and reload it rather than a dist-upgrade
[12:19] <rdw200169> andy_33, and you can't look at that computer to find out?
[12:20] <andy_33> rdw200169:  my friend wont let me
[12:20] <andy_33> rdw200169:  -.-
[12:20] <EricT> heguru, just wanted to enure you saw my link?
[12:20] <siloko> erisco: well then perhaps you are bettwer off with just a / and /home partition
[12:20] <rdw200169> andy_33, how are you getting your ip address?
[12:20] <andy_33> rdw200169:  through a router,
[12:20] <erisco> siloko, I am just confused as to the benefit of separating /usr from /
[12:20] <rdw200169> andy_33, from a router somewhere, but can you get access to it?
[12:20] <andy_33> rdw200169:  located at <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:20] <matthew__> how do I open GUI applications over ssh?
[12:20] <sensae> That's great - I got fed up getting my onboard sound to work, so I threw in an old audigy 2 I had lying around, and ubuntu autodetected it
[12:20] <andy_33> rdw200169:  yeah, through telnet
[12:20] <disown> I did a manual compile and install of alsa. Now I have to redo that procedure for each kernel upgrade. Can I get the ubuntu default alsa back somehow??
[12:21] <heguru> EricT: yes i did
[12:21] <rdw200169> andy_33, what kind of router?
[12:21] <EricT> thank you.
[12:21] <Woet> i just installed ultraedit via wine (a texteditor), how do i start it now??
[12:21] <heguru> EricT: remove the dns-nameserver option
[12:21] <heguru> EricT: and try again
[12:21] <siloko> erisco: not every appi install is part of a distribution
[12:21] <EricT> ok
[12:21] <andy_33> rdw200169:  2sec
[12:21] <alcaponage> How do I make my firefox icon... etc interactive?
[12:21] <GNine> yes, siloko
[12:21] <GNine> system update/upgrade wont delete your usr account
[12:21] <alcaponage> http://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php
[12:21] <godzirra> Eagleray: Huh.  Apparently that did it.  Its still installing, but it got further than it ever has.
[12:21] <alcaponage> like in that picture
[12:21] <Woet> Does someone know a good app to program PHP with..?
[12:21] <Woet> ?
[12:21] <Naxa> I logged in to my remote computer with ssh -X, but there was already an X running... I typed xinit -- :1 and I see that a new X is started, but it's not forwareded to my screen. what shoud i do?
[12:21] <preaction> Woet, vim
[12:21] <erisco> siloko, my home is 5.6GB and my /usr is about 2.5GB
[12:21] <preaction> Woet, preferably vim version 7, it has the nice tab functions. if you want a GUI, use gvim
[12:22] <EricT> ok. it pings IP's, but not hostnames.
[12:22] <andy_33> Netopia 3351
[12:22] <rdw200169> andy_33, the router has a lease file, for all the dhcp addresses it put out, and may or may not give you access to it
[12:22] <sensae> I've loaded some mp3s into rhythmbox, and they are high kbps (320 or so). Rhythmbox shows them as being 15+ minutes long when they're only 5 minutes
[12:22] <EricT> so i need to add something to resolv.conf ;)
[12:22] <godzirra> Eagleray: restarting now to see if it works.
[12:22] <rdw200169> EricT, you may have a DNS related problem
[12:22] <rdw200169> EricT, check /etc/resolv.conf
[12:22] <alcaponage> How do I make my bottom tastbar interactive?
[12:22] <heguru> EricT: yes add the dns-server to /etc/resolve.conf
[12:22] <heguru> EricT: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:22] <rdw200169> EricT, like "nameserver IP"
[12:23] <rdw200169> heguru, ah, you beat me
[12:23] <EricT> yup, fixed it
[12:23] <heguru> rdw200169: :)
[12:23] <godzirra> Eagleray: that was apparently it =p
[12:23] <Eagleray> godzirra: excellent
[12:23] <EricT> actually it already had that nameserver in there, but it didn't work. my host provided me with a different set
[12:23] <Eagleray> godzirra: it now builds?
[12:23] <siloko> alcaponage: interactive?
[12:23] <alcaponage> siloko yes
[12:23] <alcaponage> can you go to this link?
[12:23] <rdw200169> EricT, the quickest way to troubleshoot that is by using nslookup, and checking what nameserver it says it's using
[12:23] <godzirra> Eagleray: it bult, and it stays built when I reboot.
[12:23] <alcaponage> http://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php
[12:23] <erisco> siloko, my plan is 45GB NTFS, 2GB Swap, 15GB / (ext3), and 88GB /home (ext3)
[12:23] <godzirra> lemme make sure its not tryring to use the vesa driver still first.
[12:23] <purity> semidios try the following command from your mac and try again maybe with a different mount point temporarily  mount -o -P FILESERVERIP:/SHARE /MOUNTPOINT
[12:23] <Eagleray> godzirra: yay!
[12:24] <Jtkiefer> ok quick question, how do I set it up so that someone other than root can run x
[12:24] <Jtkiefer> I'm having trouble getting it to work
[12:24] <rdw200169> EricT, step 1, ping it, step 2, nslookup it
[12:24] <godzirra> Eagleray: yeah.. weird. ;)
[12:24] <sensae> Does anyone know why rhythmbox would misread the length of high-kbps songs?
[12:24] <godzirra> oh well, thanks for all your help :)
[12:24] <siloko> erisco: well you obviously have plenty of room . . .
[12:24] <erisco> siloko, indeed. 200gb drive
[12:24] <EricT> now if they provided me with 2 nameservers, i just add a new line "nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
[12:24] <heguru> Jtkiefer: by default evrery new user can run X
[12:24] <Eagleray> godzirra: no worries, glad your problem's sorted
[12:24] <heguru> EricT: yes
[12:24] <erisco> siloko, I just want to figure out tactical ways to divide it proportionally
[12:24] <EricT> then another line of "nameserver yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy" ?
[12:24] <rdw200169> EricT, most network troubleshooting guides never mention that for some unknown reason...
[12:24] <andy_33> rdw200169:  Btw, I am allowed to scan all ip ranged within <IP_ADDRESS>/24 right?
[12:24] <rdw200169> EricT yup
[12:24] <Jtkiefer> odd, I killed x and logged out and it gave me a user cannot run x error
[12:24] <heguru> EricT: you can also use www.opendns.com servers
[12:24] <rdw200169> andy_33, sure
[12:24] <alcaponage> siloko: All the programs are icons on the bottom and they move if you move your mouse near it
[12:25] <EricT> excellent. guess i'm doing alright then ;)
[12:25] <andy_33> rdw200169:  aight
[12:25] <rabbitnightmare> is there something as good as ksmoothdock for gnome?
[12:25] <rdw200169> EricT, or root servers
[12:25] <rdw200169> andy_33, it's like a mass ping
[12:25] <EricT> first ever server setup went smooth. just didn't know to remove that line
[12:25] <siloko> erisco: well your suggestion sounds sensible . . .
[12:25] <andy_33> rdw200169:  because, I can maybe run a nmap -P0 <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[12:25] <andy_33> rdw200169:  maybe I'll find more hosts then
[12:25] <EricT> but i know now =D
[12:25] <EricT> thanks guys
[12:25] <rabbitnightmare> if not better
[12:25] <Woet> Hello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk
[12:25] <siloko> erisco: although i personally would leave out the NTFS partition :)
[12:25] <erisco> siloko, you just make me question that setup when you said you have /usr separate as well. I am wondering of the benefits and advantages of it
[12:25] <Woet> I cant find "fish"
[12:26] <erisco> siloko, so would I :( if only wine was flawless
[12:26] <Auckla> Wow Azuraes is a buggy mofo. And has been forever now.
[12:26] <heguru> EricT: :) 2950 works VERY WELL with Ubuntu (except Dapper LTS which fails to boot after installation due to bad initrd :()
[12:26] <rdw200169> andy_33, can't hurt
[12:26] <siloko> erisco: use a virtual machine . . . house your vm on an ext3 partition works a treat for me
[12:26] <rabbitnightmare> Azereus works but it should be labled treat with care it is java that is buggy
[12:26] <EricT> hmm, i'm on dapper LTS
[12:26] <Woet> Does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk (sftpdrive for windows)
[12:26] <Woet> I cant find "fish"
[12:26] <EricT> when it fails to boot on initrd, i press enter and it boots.
[12:26] <siloko> erisco: and all the tools are FOSS
[12:26] <erisco> siloko, it is actually kind of cool. The NTFS will have windows xp pro which I can dual boot into... but I also will have vmplayer to boot up windows virtually (but off of the real NTFS partition)
[12:26] <rdw200169> andy_33, me, i'll port-scan anybody, and the only problem i'll get is that some personal firewalls on windows will black-list my ip address
[12:26] <heguru> EricT: do you have RAID?
[12:27] <EricT> yes
[12:27] <EricT> RAID5
[12:27] <erisco> SiliconViper, so when I need to game I can boot into windows. When I just need to use photoshop for web development I can boot up windows virtually
[12:27] <rdw200169> andy_33, but there's a legal cop-out, because no one can know if you did that, or some software that was running on your behalf
[12:27] <Boumboum5> Woet: when you install apps via wine, it requires a reboot to fully take effect. After a reboot, it should be in Applications/Wine/Ultraedit or similar.
[12:27] <EricT> interesting though... dell sent wrong server first without RAID and i could not get that one past initrd
[12:27] <erisco> siloko, so when I need to game I can boot into windows. When I just need to use photoshop for web development I can boot up windows virtually
[12:27] <Jtkiefer> heguru, it says creating new authorization file, then says error this user is not authorized to run x
[12:27] <siloko> erisco: ok that does sound very flexible
[12:27] <Semidios> purity, i did a mkdir /Media to use as the mount point on my Mac.  then did the command and it gives me "Mount nfs: /Media : Permission denied"       if you could /msg me the next step I would appreciate it.  I have to step away from the comp for a bit..  10min or so
[12:28] <genii> heguru: 2950 = Dell PowerEdge 2950?
[12:28] <rdw200169> andy_33, some filesharing apps in windows are notorious for port-scanning
[12:28] <EricT> this one has raid and larger hard drives, those are the only change. works great.
[12:28] <Jtkiefer> heguru, I'm going to go in and try to edit the auth file directly to see if that works
[12:28] <EricT> yes, genii
[12:28] <siloko> erisco: although i was truggling to find a use for a proper boot - but then you mentioned games :)
[12:28] <heguru> EricT: well then it must be the one without RAID that fails then :D
[12:28] <siloko> *struggling*
[12:28] <erisco> siloko, hehe :P
[12:28] <EricT> yeah, mine without raid failed horribly.
[12:28] <rdw200169> andy_33, it's a *great* way to test a firewall...
[12:28] <EricT> so i went to 6.06
[12:28] <Auckla> OMFG, in the history of that program, I have never used it and had it "NOT" Be the buggiest piece I've ever used on any operating system.
[12:28] <Auckla> Holly crap!
[12:28] <EricT> that worked fine, but i needed raid.
[12:28] <genii> EricT: I have one in front of me now LOL and 3  2450 Dell too
[12:28] <andy_33> rdw200169:  nice, thanks mate (:
[12:28] <Boumboum5> Jtkiefer: as root, use chmod (that changes the file permissions
[12:28] <erisco> siloko, until I get another gig of ram or something the virtual computer is a little sluggish. its fine for basic stuff though
[12:29] <EricT> lol nice :)
[12:29] <alecw1> I'm currently learning Spanish, and I've been looking for a great spanish learning app. Can someone suggest a program? I've tried Kverbos, I didn't like it.
[12:29] <Filthpig> hm
[12:29] <EricT> any suggestions as things to do on first boot?
[12:29] <siloko> erisco: another gig of ram - sigh - you kids!!
[12:29] <Boumboum5> sounds like Jtkiefer's install of X has been damaged or corrupted somehow. Perhaps a reinstall?
[12:29] <erisco> siloko, :P well ubuntu + windows xp = maxing out 1 gig of ram
[12:29] <EricT> so just for clarification, raid5 with 3 HDD's makes the first 2 usable, and the last one a backup, right?
[12:30] <alcaponage> How do I make my programs from the taskbar on top to the bottom?
[12:30] <alcaponage> To make it look like mac osx
[12:30] <Boumboum5> sounds very cool, erisco
[12:30] <alcaponage> where all the icons are interactive
[12:30] <Filthpig> Upgraded to gutsy now.. Gaim is discontinued, but why doesn't gutsy ship with pidgin or something like it?
[12:30] <heguru> EricT: yes
[12:30] <siloko> alcaponage: you can drag them from one to the other
[12:30] <erisco> Boumboum5, I worked hard on the idea :P well, I got plenty of help setting it up
[12:30] <EricT> thought so. :)
[12:30] <daylighter> let's say I downloaded and installed nvidia's latest drivers and I want to go back to the nvidia-glx driver, how do I remove the one I compiled myself
[12:30] <Chousuke> Filthpig: Gaim is Pidgin
[12:30] <Boumboum5> ok bye all
[12:31] <EricT> this should be fun. this is a pretty powerful server
[12:31] <alcaponage> hey siloko
[12:31] <EricT> dual quad core procs :)
[12:31] <alcaponage> have you looked at the link i gave you?
[12:31] <heguru> EricT: well the parity info is usually striped i.e. stored across all three disks
[12:31] <alcaponage> I want it to be like the video on youtube
[12:31] <siloko> alcaponage: no . . .
[12:31] <erisco> siloko, thanks for the help. I'll get partitioning now
[12:31] <alcaponage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m423g-W-iVA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flifehacker%2Ecom%2Fsoftware%2Fpretty%2Dand%2Dproductive%2Fpower%2Dup%2Dyour%2Dlinux%2Ddesktop%2Dwith%2Dcompiz%2Dfusion%2D291002%2Ephp
[12:31] <thesaint4444> hi guys, what is the safest way to resize a partition on my primary hard disk and still leave all the data in place?
[12:31] <siloko> erisco: no worries - good luck
[12:31] <Filthpig> Chousuke: yes, I know, but why doesn't ubuntu ship with it?
[12:32] <Chousuke> !info pidgin
[12:32] <heguru> Jtkiefer: did you fix your Xauthority file?
[12:32] <ubotu> Package pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:32] <Chousuke> hmm
[12:32] <heguru> Jtkiefer: you should use xauth command for it
[12:32] <siloko> alcaponage: you want me to watch a video of someones desktop ???
[12:32] <ben-hail> i am from brasil
[12:32] <EricT> heguru, i'll read about it. no need for me to waste your time on basics :)
[12:32] <Chousuke> Filthpig: yes it does
[12:33] <Chousuke> Filthpig: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/pidgin
[12:33] <EricT> you helped me out a bunch. that was bugging me. it litterally took me 30 seconds to get it working in 6.06 on the old server
[12:33] <EricT> but that line was killing me
[12:33] <Jtkiefer> ok I'll try that
[12:33] <alcaponage> siloko: lol no, I want to know how I get it to look like that
[12:34] <alcaponage> siloko: I want my ubuntu to have the interactive thing on the bottom
[12:34] <siloko> alcaponage: aaahh you want compiz-fusion
[12:35] <Jtkiefer> be back in a sec, switching systems
[12:35] <alcaponage> siloko: i already have compiz-fusion, but i want the cool looking thing on the bottom
[12:35] <alcaponage> siloko: I want the firefox and azerus thing on the bottom, it moves around and it is animated
[12:36] <doafee> help plz
[12:36] <EricT> ugh.
[12:36] <EricT> trying to install openssh-server and its asking for the cdrom.
[12:36] <EricT> shouldn't it just find it online and be happy?
[12:36] <heguru> EricT: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:36] <kyled> i have a problem with grub, i have a dual boot system and now all of a sudden my windows xp home boot option is no longer in the grub boot menu. can anyone help?
[12:36] <heguru> EricT: comment the line with cdrom
[12:36] <kitche> EricT: yes it will if your remove the cd from your sources.list
[12:37] <siloko> alcaponage: ok well jumping icons?? not my thing really - have you checked out the icon settings in the compiz-manager?
[12:37] <EricT> hm. worked now
[12:37] <alcaponage> siloko: no i have not, what do i do
[12:37] <EricT> geniuses i tell you, geniuses!
[12:37] <siloko> alcaponage: there's also a compiz channel for people who max out the capabilities (which i don't)
[12:37] <EricT> and should i set my hostname to my IP, or does it matter?
[12:37] <alcaponage> siloko: what channel is that
[12:38] <tdizz1> i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the linux options
[12:38] <heguru> EricT: hostname to IP?
[12:38] <EricT> yeah.
[12:38] <tdizz1> ubuntu options*
[12:38] <heguru> heguru: set your hostname to your hostname
[12:39] <heguru> ^EricT
[12:39] <Jtkiefer> here's what xauth is returning, which I don't pretend to understand
[12:39] <Jtkiefer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39314/
[12:39] <EricT> when i installed, it asked for a hostname..
[12:39] <Arepie> urmmm.. my computer have some problem with wine, is there any other program that works like wine? to run windows application..
[12:39] <EricT> i set it to "Server", should i set it to my IP?
[12:39] <EricT> or does it matter?
[12:39] <Slart> Arepie: what kind of applications are you looking to run?
[12:40] <tdizz1> can anyone help me?
[12:40] <heguru> EricT: no, set it to whatever you want to name your server, shouldn't really matter unless you're running mail/web server
[12:40] <EricT> it is a web server
[12:40] <Arepie> Slart: urmmm.. internet download manager
[12:40] <EricT> for a very popular online forum
[12:40] <EricT> :)
[12:40] <thesaint4444> anyone know what is the safest way to rezise my / partion ? I need to leave everything intact....
[12:40] <EricT> thesaint4444, gparted
[12:40] <LjL> thesaint4444: the safest way is backing it up, recreating it and restoring it.
[12:40] <D-Flame> thesaint4444: Back up the data on it first too
[12:40] <EricT> use the gparted boot disk.
[12:40] <LjL> EricT: that's hardly a safe way.
[12:41] <EricT> do'h.
[12:41] <heguru> Jtkiefer: it looks fine
[12:41] <EricT> ignore me. i'm a n00b.
[12:41] <thesaint4444> LjL - server is in a data center - i dont have access....
[12:41] <Jtkiefer> I know, maybe I should just reinstall x and see if that helps
[12:41] <Arepie> Slart: i installed wine, but, i can't run it.. i don't know why.. it works earlier, but, suddenly it disappear..
[12:41] <heguru> Jtkiefer: can you paste the error again?
[12:41] <LjL> thesaint4444: then all ways are equally unsafe. (very.)
[12:41] <Slart> Arepie: there are some... qemu, vmware and such.. they, more or less, emulate a whole machine so they are a bit slower.. nothing to play Wow on.. but I'd keep trying with wine... these other programs will, afaik, require you to boot windows in a  window to run your program..
[12:41] <kitche> Arepie: open up terminal and type wine wine is a command line program
[12:41] <jackfusion> how do I make sure something dose not start up in ps -A when linux starts up?
[12:41] <Semidios> purity, I reexcuted the command using sudo.  it worked.  I copied the file over and it showed up perfectly.  I think I know what changes I have to make now to get it running.  Thank you.  I'll be in touch if I get stuck
[12:42] <Slart> Arepie: no logs? error messages?
[12:42] <clem> hello folks
[12:42] <EricT> anyone here use folding@home?
[12:42] <EricT> curious
[12:42] <LjL> thesaint4444: besides, if you can't physically access the computer, it means you can't work on the / partition while it's unmounted, which in turn means that you can't do it at all.
[12:42] <clem> ppl, I just installed xUbuntu, and added openoffice to it
[12:42] <geokeratz> clem> hi
[12:42] <LjL> !ot
[12:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:42] <Arepie> kitche: yea, i done with that.. it recognize, and it was there, but when i try to start the program, it won't load..
[12:42] <clem> BUT: ooffice window is weird
[12:42] <tdizz1>  i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options. can anyone help me to fix this?
[12:43] <genii> jackfusion: If something is running there is no way to make it not show up in ps -A aside from killing it
[12:43] <Arepie> Slart: where can i find the error msg?
[12:43] <clem> any hints on using ooffice in xubuntu?
[12:43] <Jtkiefer> heguru, it was essentially, creating new auth file .serverauth.11427 error user not authorized to run x
[12:43] <Filthpig> what the.. Pidgin won't connect me to msn because I lack some ssl libs, but everything I can find that seems relevant is installed.. and aMSN also runs
[12:43] <LjL> clem: perhaps try #xubuntu
[12:43] <Jtkiefer> even though it apparently is authorized to run x
[12:43] <clem> #xubuntu
[12:43] <LjL> clem: /join #xubuntu
[12:43] <thesaint4444> LjL: so the only way really is to go there use a boot disk and take it from there.... ?
[12:43] <LjL> thesaint4444: yup.
[12:43] <clem> LjL, will do that - thx
[12:44] <Arepie> Slart: if you can teach me how to clean all wine conf file, and let me setup from the very beginning is a good idea..
[12:44] <alcaponage> Does anyone know how to set up the interactive icons?
[12:44] <Lax> Hello. Anyone know how to remove the loading bar during boot in ubuntu? Just to see the various boot steps in text?
[12:44] <Slart> Arepie: just run your program from a terminal, like if I want to run.. Oblivion, I'd run "wine OblivionLauncher.exe" .. then I get the output into that same window while the program runs
[12:44] <LjL> Lax: temporarily, or forever?
[12:44] <fliegenderfrosch> Lax: i think you could just remove "splash" from the boot options
[12:44] <Arepie> Slart: i told you, i done with that.. it don't work.. it don't load the file..
[12:44] <clem> hm.. and how do I join #xubuntu? (sorry for the newbie Q)
[12:45] <Slart> Arepie: how do you start your download manager?
[12:45] <thesaint4444> LjL: ok, thanks, the machine has 4 other scsi disks in it - can i set them up remotely to store the data?
[12:45] <tdizz1> can anyone please help me?  i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options.
[12:45] <kitche> clem: /join #ubuntu
[12:45] <Slart> Arepie: and you don't get any error messages at all when you type that?
[12:45] <NessieLiberation> clem: /j #xubuntu
[12:45] <kitche> clem: xubuntu of course :) missed the x
[12:45] <usr13> Arepie, I think you can navigate to the .exe file via the file manager and just click on it.
[12:45] <LjL> thesaint4444: probably. but you still won't be able to resize your / partition remotely
[12:45] <clem> oh, right
[12:45] <clem> (duh)
[12:45] <jackfusion> so the only to make sure a process like apache dose not start up when linux starts up is to reinstall linux correct?
[12:45] <LjL> jackfusion: ?!
[12:46] <Arepie> Slart: first, there was a menu for wine in the main menu.. but, when i try to click on that.. it won't load.. so i try from the terminal.. wine dman.exe, still don't work..
[12:46] <usr13> jackfusion,  no that's not so.
[12:46] <tdizz1> can no one help me?
[12:46] <migatxu> somebody here has a Axim X50v ?
[12:46] <thesaint4444> LjL: yes i will leave the route partition alone, how would i make the other disks available?
[12:46] <Arepie> usr13: yup.. and run with wine.. i try that too
[12:46] <jackfusion> is ps -A a list of running processes
[12:46] <jackfusion> ?
[12:46] <LjL> thesaint4444: partition them, format the partitions you create, and mount them.
[12:46] <tdizz1> i forgot to note that i can access all the files on the ubuntu partition with the ubuntu live CD
[12:47] <Lax> Hello. Anyone know how to remove the loading bar during boot in ubuntu? Just to see the various boot steps in text?. (sorry for double, was dced)
[12:47] <migatxu> an X50v from Dell
[12:47] <LjL> jackfusion: yes it is
[12:47] <fliegenderfrosch> Lax: i think you could just remove "splash" from the boot options
[12:47] <thesaint4444> LjL: how do i actually see them to partition them?
[12:47] <LjL> Lax: change "splash" into "nosplash" in the kernel parameters
[12:47] <Arepie> Slart: just to confirm.. can i use cedega to run application?
[12:47] <jackfusion> then how do I make sure a process dose not start up when linux starts up?
[12:47] <tdizz1> HELP!
[12:47] <ZenOswyn> i've setup ubuntu as a small web server. with the basic security measures taken care of (firewall, chrootkit, securing sshd) are there any other major security hazards i should be aware of?
[12:47] <usr13> jackfusion, sudo services-admin
[12:48] <clem> hm, nobody in #xubuntu
[12:48] <LjL> thesaint4444: you should see them fine as their device nodes - /dev/sd# or /dev/hd# where # is a number.
[12:48] <clem> will keep looking
[12:48] <Slart> Arepie: you do change the current directory so dman.exe shows up if you do a "ls"
[12:48] <jackfusion> ok thank you
[12:48] <Lax> LjL: where can i edit that? im just a noob windows user
[12:48] <Slart> Arepie: I douby Cedege will be any better at running it compared to wine.. but who knows
[12:48] <usr13> jackfusion, NP.  Yea, just go thru and check / uncheck to your heart's delight :)
[12:48] <heguru> Lax: if you just want to see the boot output without disabling splash forever, Press CTRL+F1 and CTL+F8 during boot
[12:48] <LjL> Lax: /boot/grub/menu.lst. search for "defoptions".
[12:48] <MikeD_> i upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 and now the display manager won't stay running.  I'm using the 7.04 live cd, what can I do to fix my hd installation?
[12:49] <amias> anyone solved the 'non power of two textures' error when starting compiz ?
[12:49] <Arepie> Slart: i try for wine..
[12:49] <LjL> !compiz > amias    (amias, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:49] <thesaint4444> LjL: ok, thanks, i think i can see them, how can i be sure exactly what they are?
[12:49] <tdizz1>  i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options. can anyone PLEASE help me to fix this?
[12:49] <usr13> jackfusion, It's also important to realize that when you install a new server or service, it will be running when the install is done.
[12:50] <LjL> thesaint4444: you can't. but "fdisk -l /dev/whatever" will tell you how big a drive it is, so you can probably guess.
[12:50] <thesaint4444> LjL: ok, and that is not dangerous in any way?
[12:50] <LjL> thesaint4444: that command above? no, as long as it's with the "-l" option.
[12:50] <usr13> tdizz1, So, you deleted one of your partitions?  Which one?
[12:50] <tdizz1> the ubuntu one
[12:50] <tdizz1> but i got it back
[12:51] <Lax> Ljl: the file is write protected :p.. how do i edit it as admin?
[12:51] <LjL> !sudo > Lax    (Lax, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:51] <MikeD_> can i use the live CD to install the OS to the HD without destroying the existing data?
[12:51] <LjL> Lax: "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:51] <thesaint4444> Ljl: ok, thanks and then use fdisk to partition an format?
[12:51] <LjL> !install > MikeD_    (MikeD_, see the private message from Ubotu) yes
[12:51] <tdizz1> and i followed a guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28windows%29 to get the list of OSs back, but it gives me an error 17 when i try to boot into any of the ubuntu options
[12:51] <DoYouKnow> mike, yeah, if you have some unpartitioned space
[12:52] <MikeD_> thanks
[12:52] <LjL> thesaint4444: yes. of course, *that* is dangerous - you need to make very sure you're partitioning and formatting the right drive.
[12:52] <clem> ppl, could anyone recommend a chat server to ask about Firefox?
[12:52] <LjL> clem: /join #firefox
[12:52] <clem> LjL, okidoki
[12:52] <thesaint4444> LjL: ok, I get the idea very clearly... you can partition and format from root another disk without a problem?
[12:53] <thesaint4444> LjL: but make sure it is the right disk :-)
[12:53] <LjL> thesaint4444: yes, although the kernel might then ask you to reboot (but that's unlikely if there were no partitions on the drive before)
[12:53] <Lax> thanks going to try a reboot then ;)
[12:53] <drewzf> How can I check what provides something?
[12:53] <drewzf> in aptitude
[12:53] <thesaint4444> LjL: that wouldn't be a problem.....
[12:53] <LjL> Lax: wait
[12:53] <LjL> Lax: "sudo update-grub" first
[12:54] <LjL> drewzf: "provides" as in the "Provides:" attribute?
[12:54] <drewzf> LjL, Precisely
[12:54] <LjL> drewzf: hold on
[12:54] <tdizz1> Can't anyone PLEASE help me??!!
[12:54] <usr13> tdizz1, Not sure how to advise you.  Not enough information.  Need to know what parition or partitions you deleted.  If you deleted  the partition that / is mounted on, the you're pretty well hosed up.  If you deleted a swap partition, that can be fixed.  If you dleeted a partition that has /home mounted on it, well that's recoverable I guess.  But, as I say, unless we know which partition and what data you have lost, we will be unable to advise you.
[12:55] <tdizz1> i deleted a / partition
[12:55] <tdizz1> and got everything back from it
[12:55] <LjL> drewzf:  aptitude search "~Dprovides:<packagename>"
[12:55] <LjL> drewzf: without the <>
[12:55] <tdizz1> i got the GRUB thing back, but it wont let me boot into the ubuntu partition
[12:56] <heguru> tdizz1: how did you delete the / partition? using windows installer? or fdisk?
[12:56] <drewzf> hmm
[12:56] <LjL> he's saying he restored the / partition.
[12:56] <tdizz1> i deleted it with GParted
[12:56] <tdizz1> by accident
[12:56] <heguru> maybe he just restored the MBR
[12:56] <tdizz1> i had an extra one
[12:56] <tdizz1> and got them confused
[12:56] <tdizz1> lol
[12:56] <LjL> tdizz1: how were you able to recover the partition?
[12:57] <tdizz1> idk what i did to restore it; i used TestDisk
[12:57] <LjL> testdisk, i see.
[12:57] <LjL> tdizz1: do you know what the partition is called? (like /dev/sda1 for instance)
[12:57] <usr13> tdizz1, If you deleted that partition, I'm not sure how you could have gotten anything back from it.  Exactly WHAT did you do?  (Not totally sure you have actually deleted a partition - Because if you've really deleted a partition and re-created it, there will be no data on it, and if it's the root partition, (/), you might as well go on and re-install.
[12:57] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me with my cube?
[12:57] <LjL> !info testdisk
[12:57] <alcaponage> I have everything turned on but the cube isn't working
[12:57] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[12:58] <thesaint4444> LJl - could i say move /home to the other disk?
[12:58] <grandy> hello...  i have a question about gutsy... if  i upgrade to the beta will i miss anything that is released in the final?  Does doing an apt-get upgrade make a beta install equivalent to final (in a few weeks or whenever it's done)?  Or will I be stuck with a system with broken parts?
[12:59] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: what exactly do you mean by "everything turned on"?
[12:59] <tdizz1> my ubuntu partition is called /dev/hda6
[12:59] <usr13> tdizz1, GRUB does not boot partitions, it boots kernels.  So, are we to assume you have deleted a kernel?
[12:59] <heguru> !gutsy > grandy
[12:59] <tdizz1> im not completely sure
[12:59] <LjL> thesaint4444: yes, you could, but to avoid messing things up, you should at a point (i.e. when swiching /home's) boot in single-user mode, which i doubt is possible remotely
[12:59] <grandy> heguru:  huh?
[12:59] <barzini> i have a bucket of these how do I resolve them ...libimlib2 but it is not going to be installed  gnome-keyring: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0) but 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[12:59] <LjL> tdizz1: you have extended partitions?
[12:59] <NessieLiberation> !final > grandy
[01:00] <tdizz1> yeah, one
[01:00] <tdizz1> and a couple partitions above it in the list in GParted
[01:00] <tdizz1> lol im a linux newb
[01:00] <usr13> tdizz1, what do you see when grub comes up at boot time?  Do you see any kernels?  Do you see one that is designated "recovery-mode"?
[01:01] <tdizz1> yes i do, and the kernels
[01:01] <tdizz1> all of them give me an error 17
[01:01] <tdizz1> the only option in the list that boots is Windows XP
[01:01] <usr13> tdizz1, So, you used GParted and deleted a partition?
[01:01] <thesaint4444> LjL: i think it is possible, i have a drac (dell remote access card) but i have enough on my plate to add that to the list!
[01:01] <tdizz1> yes
[01:01] <tdizz1> and restored it using TestDisk
[01:01] <LjL> tdizz1: then type "e" on a recovery mode kernel and make sure that everywhere it has a partition name, it's the right partition. if there is a UUID (a long string of number and digits), change it into the partition name.
[01:01] <tdizz1> ok
[01:02] <thesaint4444> LjL: would i boot into single user mode then move /home ?
[01:02] <usr13> tdizz1,  and that partition would be hda6?
[01:02] <spiderpig> hello everyone
[01:02] <MikeD_> what are the commands to perform a system update from CLI?  (or a url to a walkthrough)
[01:02] <tdizz1> yes it is
[01:02] <fujin> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:02] <Chousuke> with sudo
[01:02] <barzini> if 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1 is not a real pkg why is ti a depends and how to I get rid of it
[01:02] <Chousuke> I prefer aptitude though. :P
[01:02] <usr13> tdizz1, Do you know what was mounted on that partition?
[01:02] <tdizz1> what do u mean?
[01:02] <tdizz1> u mean the mount point?
[01:02] <LjL> thesaint4444: no. you *copy* /home first (using "cp -a"), *then* you edit /etc/fstab to get the new partition mounted as /home, then you reboot to check that it works, and only then, you should remove your old home (the OLD, not the new, careful ;)
[01:03] <usr13> tdizz1, Was /  (the root directory) mounted on it?
[01:03] <tdizz1> yes
[01:03] <hgjjjf> whn  i pop in the sims 2 cd i get this Cannot mount volume.Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'.
[01:03] <LjL> thesaint4444: the problem is that, during that process, there will come a point where you'll have no /home partition at all. you should be logged in as root at that time, otherwise weird things may happen. ideally, you should be in single user mode.
[01:03] <lfever_> hello everyone
[01:03] <usr13> tdizz1, If that is true, I see no other option for you but to re-install, (and then try not to delete any more partitions that are in use from now on :)
[01:03] <Lax> LjL. #defoptions=quiet nosplash. i changed it to nosplash but its still showing it....
[01:03] <mcphail> tdizz1: you have restored the partition, but is the partition type "linux"?
[01:04] <hgjjjf> whn i pop in the sims disk i get this nvalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'.
[01:04] <LjL> Lax, did you also issue  sudo update-grub ?
[01:04] <tdizz1> what u mean?
[01:04] <Lax> no ops
[01:04] <tdizz1> like the filesystem?
[01:04] <LjL> tdizz1: no, the partition type as shown by fdisk
[01:04] <mcphail> tdizz1: no, the partiton type. Presumably the filesystem will be ext3
[01:04] <barzini> is this a real file 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1?
[01:04] <tdizz1> yes its ext3
[01:04] <Lax> ill give it a go again then.. :)
[01:05] <mcphail> tdizz1: yes, but what is the partition type?
[01:05] <thesaint4444> LjL: so do what you need to do then reboot and login as single user mode?
[01:05] <LjL> thesaint4444: yeah basically you'll only need single user mode to delete the old /home
[01:05] <mcphail> tdizz1: use "sudo fdisk -l" and see what the "Id" column says
[01:05] <hgjjjf>  whn i pop in the sims disk i get this invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'
[01:06] <Voodoo_John> hi, im on fiesty fawn and my usb soundcard isnt working
[01:06] <sky1> looks like my repositories are messed up, it shows Ubuntu Servers status failed in lot of servers when I do a check
[01:06] <tdizz1> 82
[01:06] <tdizz1> 83*
[01:06] <tdizz1> i meant 83 lol
[01:06] <sky1> I also cant upgrade to Ubuntu 7.04 because of this
[01:06] <usr13> mcphail, I don't think he will be able to tell you that.  But, if he were to boot to a live CD and look around some, he might be able to give us more useful info.  But that would be hard thing to do.
[01:06] <LjL> tdizz1: that's Linux, yes.
[01:07] <Voodoo_John> my on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working
[01:07] <mcphail> tdizz1: so that's fine
[01:07] <tdizz1> yeah i know it says linux
[01:07] <needhelp> Hi, I have a problem with my printer. I am able to print a testpage from within printer administration. But whenever I try to print something from a webpage or from OpenOffice, only a blank white paper comes out. Anyeone ?
[01:07] <rabbitnightmare> ok i went to install amarok and it installed then it wouldnt play mp3's and it crashed while doing this it says mp3 support is installed but wont play any of my music what do I do?
[01:07] <Voodoo_John> my on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it
[01:07] <LjL> rabbitnightmare: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[01:08] <rabbitnightmare> ok ty
[01:08] <sky1> how can I fix my repositories ?
[01:08] <LjL> !source-o-matic > sky1    (sky1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:08] <usr13> sky1, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:08] <rabbitnightmare> E: Couldn't find package libxinel-ffmpeg
[01:09] <needhelp> FAQ. | FAQ
[01:09] <mcphail> tdizz1: have you fsck'd your partition?
[01:09] <tdizz1> ?
[01:09] <fliegenderfrosch> rabbitnightmare: that's a 1 (one) behind xine, not a L
[01:09] <Voodoo_John> my on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it
[01:09] <tdizz1> what do you mean by that?
[01:09] <alcaponage> Can someone help me with the cube?
[01:09] <usr13> sky1, 7.04?
[01:09] <rabbitnightmare> oops :P
[01:09] <rabbitnightmare> sorry
[01:10] <sky1> usr13, yeah Im using Edgy, I wan to use Fiesty
[01:10] <mcphail> tdizz1: performed a filesystem check? You should be able to do this from the live cd
[01:10] <rabbitnightmare> already installed and newest version
[01:10] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: what have you done so far?
[01:10] <tdizz1> how do i do that?
[01:10] <usr13> You can just grab sources.list from another system.
[01:11] <alcaponage> fliegenderfrosch: I have compiz fusion already and I can Alt Ctrl L and R to switch
[01:11] <hgjjjf> how do i mount the cd drive?
[01:11] <rabbitnightmare> i might try kubuntu as this is annoying lol
[01:11] <usr13> sky1, Or, one of us can give you ours.
[01:11] <alcaponage> fliegenderfrosch: But I can't go Alt Ctrl Down to go into cube mode
[01:11] <mcphail> tdizz1: boot into the live cd, unmount the partition "sudo umount /dev/whatever" then "sudo e2fsck /dev/whatever"
[01:11] <tdizz1> k
[01:11] <rabbitnightmare> sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[01:11] <Voodoo_John> my on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it
[01:11] <usr13> sky1, I'll put mine on a server and send you a link.
[01:11] <sky1> usr13, thank you, I am trying to generate myself one from the weblink I got from ubotu,also it will help me learn about source list files ;)
[01:12] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: afaik you can use EITHER the cube or the wall
[01:12] <mcphail> tdizz1: if it is a large partition prepare to give it half an hour or so
[01:12] <tdizz1> tells me the commands not found
[01:12] <rabbitnightmare> the ffmpeg stuff is installed fine but mp3's still wont play
[01:12] <alcaponage> fliegenderfrosch: afaik? I want the cube tho
[01:12] <rabbitnightmare> in amarok
[01:12] <Lax> LjL: worked nicely, thank you. you wouldnt also know how to make my startup session apps start minimized to tray? thinking about gaim...
[01:12] <mcphail> tdizz1: which command?
[01:12] <tdizz1> unmount
[01:12] <mcphail> tdizz1: umount
[01:13] <tdizz1> oh!
[01:13] <tdizz1> lol
[01:13] <tdizz1> sorrt
[01:13] <tdizz1> sorry*
[01:13] <mcphail> :)
[01:13] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: what do you use to configure compiz and which version of ubuntu do you use? (afaik = as far as i know)
[01:13] <geko> hello. I'm from Universidade do Minho. And we are mirroring ubuntu. I was wondering how can we be an official mirror. Can you help us?
[01:13] <geko> @ cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/
[01:13] <thesaint4444> LjL: cool, thanks for the help, I will try and format, partition and mount one of the drives now, how should i set the partitions on the other drives? logical or primary? am i right in thinking primary for one continuous drive and logical for multiple partitions on the same drive?
[01:13] <kitche> geko: read the mirror info on the wiki it's all explained there
[01:13] <alcaponage> fliegenderfrosch: I have feisty I use CFSM
[01:14] <tdizz1> k it finished really fast and says "/dev/hda6: clean, 190402/856480 files, 1649761/1710914 blocks"
[01:14] <rabbitnightmare> can someone with amarok experience help me
[01:14] <LjL> Lax, nope, i'm not on GNOME
[01:14] <rabbitnightmare> please
[01:14] <LjL> thesaint4444, no, you'll only need logical if you want more than 4 partitions on a single drive.
[01:14] <mattthebaker> what ftpd is recommened for use with ubuntu for a standard desktop? i used to use vsftpd with gentoo, but am wondering if there is a better alternative?
[01:14] <geko> kitche: ok. thank you
[01:14] <dfletcher_> is there a pdf viewer for gnome?
[01:15] <RickX> can someone tell me how to install universe repository?
[01:15] <Chousuke> dfletcher_: evince
[01:15] <kitche> mattthebaker: well there is two proftpd camp or vsftpd camp there is others but those two are the best documented ones
[01:15] <dfletcher_> trying it, thanks Chousuke
[01:15] <mattthebaker> kitche: thanks
[01:15] <mcphail> tdizz1: ...just googling error17...
[01:16] <tdizz1> k
[01:16] <alcaponage> fliegenderfrosch: ?
[01:16] <thesaint4444> LJL: aah.. ok, so primary and mount it as any name i want then it should appear in my file system?
[01:16] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: is the cube plugin activated and the wall plugin deactivated?
[01:17] <LjL> thesaint4444: "mountpoint", the place you want to mount it on is called, but yes.
[01:17] <alcaponage> fliegender the cube is activated and the wall is deactivated
[01:17] <LjL> !fstab > thesaint4444    (thesaint4444, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:17] <Lax> anyone else knows how to start apps minimized in gnome?
[01:17] <anathematic> how do i start cron on my ubuntu server?
[01:17] <barzini> anyone know whats going on here Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.3+2_i386.deb
[01:18] <rabbitnightmare> will someone please help me I am having troubles playing my music with amaroK
[01:18] <Flannel> anathematic: What version of Ubuntu?
[01:18] <jwcgator> I need help with desktop effects
[01:18] <anathematic>  Flannel whatever the newest server one is
[01:18] <Filthpig> does anyone know if Gutsy has upport for the rt73 chipset (I.e. on a Linksys WUSB54GC)? Feisty tried using rt73usb, but that didn't work.. I went through a really long howto to get it to work, and it did! ...until I rebooted :/
[01:18] <jwcgator> with them turned on, I have lost the bars at the top of my windows
[01:18] <anathematic> doesn't seem to be running
[01:19] <jwcgator> any help?
[01:19] <sky1> how do I write the file, I am using gedit, but it is asking for sudo, how can I write into the sources.list file ?
[01:19] <Xenguy> anathematic: I would think it would be started automatically, yes?  Try: ps aux |grep -i cron
[01:19] <Xenguy> anathematic: any output from that?
[01:19] <anathematic> Xenguy: already did that, for sone reason it's not running
[01:19] <LjL> sky1: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:19] <LjL> !sudo > sky1    (sky1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:19] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: so is there any animation when you change desktop?
[01:19] <anathematic> just the search i just did came up that was it Xenguy
[01:19] <Filthpig> !rt73
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt73 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <anathematic> which i thought was wierd: i know it's installed
[01:19] <jwcgator> I need help with desktop effects
[01:19] <jwcgator> with them turned on, I have lost the bars at the top of my windows
[01:19] <Filthpig> !ralink
[01:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:19] <Flannel> anathematic: Feisty uses upstart to do the cron thing.  I believe its a drop in replacement.
[01:19] <jwcgator> Any help getting them back
[01:19] <LjL> jwcgator: nvidia card?
[01:19] <Acidictadpole> I'm having trouble getting responses from the apt-get update servers.. I originally had them set to ca. and I changed them to us. I still get 404 though using apt-get update. I can ping the servers fine.
[01:20] <Xenguy> anathematic: try: which cron
[01:20] <alcaponage> Can ANYONE help me with my cube?
[01:20] <anathematic> Flannel: but it has cron installed still? I just want to start it again without restarting the server
[01:20] <jwcgator> yes
[01:20] <jwcgator> ljl
[01:20] <LjL> Acidictadpole: pastebin your sources.list
[01:20] <Acidictadpole> k
[01:20] <LjL> jwcgator: try  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24  and then restart X
[01:20] <anathematic> Xenguy: "/usr/sbin/cron"
[01:20] <Greyscale> sleep good
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> alcaponage: try #ubuntu-effects
[01:20] <thesaint4444> LJL: cheers...
[01:20] <ekrengel> does anyone know how to unshare a folder from the terminal?
[01:20] <anathematic> Xenguy: when i  just go "sudo crond" it saids command not found
[01:21] <anathematic> =\ which is wierd
[01:21] <lfever_> Feisty Package Manager and apt-get return errors, can anybody help? :-[
[01:21] <mcphail> tdizz1: i'm struggling to work out why you should get an error17. The partition exists, and is clearly ext3...
[01:21] <LjL> anathematic: that's because the cron daemon is simply called 'cron'
[01:21] <tdizz1> and has all the files that were on it before
[01:21] <LjL> anathematic: though i don't think you're supposed to invoke it manually
[01:21] <fliegenderfrosch> lfever_: can you be a bit more specific?
[01:21] <usr13> sky1, Still there?
[01:22] <tdizz1> does anyone else have an idea why this would happen?
[01:22] <anathematic> yeah LjL i don't think so
[01:22] <sky1> usr13, yup I just replaced the file
[01:22] <anathematic> but you should be able to still
[01:22] <Acidictadpole> LjL: http://pastebin.com/d62d68e93
[01:22] <LjL> anathematic: you are. but "crond" never existed, it's "cron"
[01:22] <Xenguy> anathematic: /etc/init.d/cron --help
[01:22] <fliegenderfrosch> lfever_: what's the error message?
[01:22] <usr13> Ok, good.
[01:22] <tdizz1> maybe the GRUB is trying to load it from a wrong place? just wondering...im a linux newb so have no clue what that would mean....
[01:22] <Xenguy> anathematic: anyway, it should start up automatically when you boot
[01:22] <LjL> Acidictadpole, that sources.list is for Breezy, and Breezy is not supported since a long time now.
[01:22] <sky1> usr13, I think Im gonna upgrade to FIesty now, hope my T60 doesnt crashes
[01:22] <anathematic> LjL: sorry that's just waht an article said i was reading
[01:23] <anathematic> Xenguy: yeah i know, no idea why it was down
[01:23] <anathematic> anyway it's up now thanks
[01:23] <Xenguy> anathematic: yw
[01:23] <anathematic> oh wait
[01:23] <anathematic> Xenguy: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 4381: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[01:23] <anathematic> bah silly thing
[01:23] <sky1> usr13, I dont need to reboot or restart the system after updating the source list right ?
[01:23] <LjL> anathematic:  sudo invoke-rc.d cron restart
[01:23] <decay> anyone here an expert with twinview settings?
[01:24] <LjL> sky1: right, but you need to  sudo apt-get update
[01:24] <anathematic> thank you LjL now it's behaving
[01:24] <LjL> !anyone > decay    (decay, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:24] <Xenguy> anathematic: or just /etc/init.d/cron restart
[01:24] <LjL> !twinview > decay    (decay, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:24] <anathematic> Xenguy: i must get my act togethe and just learn these soon
[01:24] <Xenguy> anathematic: er, with sudo
[01:24] <anathematic> thanks again
[01:24] <anathematic> yeah i figured ;)
[01:24] <Acidictadpole> LjL: How can I go about a remote distribution upgrade then?
[01:24] <LjL> Xenguy: why on earth? the 'invoke-rc.d' command is there so that you don't do that manually.
[01:24] <LjL> !upgrade > Acidictadpole    (Acidictadpole, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:25] <decay> it's complicated. I can't just type it out. i'd have to explain in details and that would take alot of lines
[01:25] <Acidictadpole> appreciated :)
[01:25] <lfever_> fliegenderfrosch i'm getting several errors Cant parse, section with no headers problem with merge list, non version list
[01:25] <anathematic> LjL and Xenguy: i did that command restarted it however the process doesn't appear to be running still?
[01:25] <cafuego> LjL: After 10-odd years, typing /etc/init.d/ is a *lot* faster for me than typing invoke-rc.d
[01:25] <Voodoo_John> my on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it
[01:25] <Xenguy> LjL: if it were 'service' or some such I might remember it, but that command is more trouble to remember than the typing it saves (if it does at all :-)
[01:25] <anathematic> (I used "px aux | grep cron" ot look for it
[01:25] <cafuego> Plus I keep typo3ing the latter :-(
[01:26] <LjL> anathematic: tail /var/log/syslog, see if cron complained about anything
[01:26] <sky1> usr13, its waiting on connecting to seveas.imbrandon.com << 99% after i do sudo apt-get update
[01:26] <fliegenderfrosch> lfever_: "sudo apt-get update" doesn't help? have you changed your sources.list?
[01:26] <LjL> Xenguy: you just have to rememeber "invoke". actually, "invo".
[01:26] <anathematic> LjL:  yeah it did http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39321/
[01:27] <usr13> Acidictadpole, http://cmsproducer.com/ubuntu-upgrade-5.10-breezy-badger-7.04-feisty-fawn
[01:27] <kailashamri1> we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?
[01:28] <X3n> hey there, my rythmbox randomly stops playing sound sometimes
[01:28] <X3n> like sometimes it works, i mean it always works, but sometimes theres no sound :S
[01:28] <X3n> using fiesty
[01:28] <Xenguy> LjL: funnily enough it does appear to be exactly the same amount of typing -- go figure ;-)
[01:28] <lfever_> fliegenderfrosch that returns errors, i haven't changed my sources list.
[01:29] <X3n> i cant listen to mp3's, it plays them but no sound :S
[01:29] <X3n> sometimes there is sound, sometimes there isnt :S
[01:29] <kailashamri1> we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?
[01:29] <whiskeytango> godzirra, you online still?
[01:30] <Sivik> X3n, what sound driver and your not running anything else with sound, are you?
[01:30] <kailashamri1> can anyone help?
[01:30] <Semidios> okay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..
[01:30] <X3n> nope, not running anything else with sound
[01:30] <X3n> how do i check my sound driver?
[01:30] <jansenq> Anybody have proglems with flgrx after upgrading to gusty?
[01:30] <Pici> jansenq: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[01:31] <simplechat> hey, i've been trying to get x to recognise my graphics card, i reconfigured and hosed X
[01:31] <jansenq> Pici: Thx
[01:31] <LjL> Xenguy: it does? for /etc/init.d/, i neet to type /e<Tab>in<Tab>.<Tab>
[01:31] <simplechat> its coming up with a fatal error that i can't find any screens
[01:31] <Sassuke> sers leutz
[01:31] <simplechat> i copied back the backup xorg.conf and it still dies on startup
[01:31] <unjustice> uk
[01:31] <simplechat> :(
[01:31] <Xenguy> LjL: ahh, wasn't thinking of
[01:31] <simplechat> what do i do?
[01:31] <Sassuke> deutsche hier ?
[01:31] <usr13> simplechat, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:31] <Sassuke> ^^
[01:31] <Flannel> !de | Sassuke
[01:31] <ubotu> Sassuke: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:32] <Xenguy> LjL: tabs
[01:32] <X3n> im using alsa sound driver?
[01:32] <simplechat> usr13, i'm a noob at this, and last time i reconfigured i killed my machine
[01:32] <Sassuke> kann mir vllt. jemand kurz mit meinen nub fragen helfen ?
[01:32] <fliegenderfrosch> lfever_: sorry, exept for replacing the sources.list with a "clean" one and trying again, i have no idea
[01:32] <X3n> its really random though, sometimes i can hear music, and sometimes not
[01:32] <tdizzy> i accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone help me with this problem?
[01:32] <Sassuke> will mir jetzt endlich linux drauf hauen was aber nicht so richtig was ich beachten soll
[01:32] <X3n> it plays mp3's but sometimes no sound
[01:32] <simplechat> usr13, could i have some help running through it?
[01:32] <LjL> anathematic: pastebin your /etc/crontab
[01:33] <anathematic> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39323/ and thanks =)
[01:33] <usr13> simplechat, Yes
[01:33] <LjL> Sassuke: bitte schreibe /join #ubuntu-de
[01:33] <whiskeytango> Ok, when i try to install my binary drivers fo rmy video card it says "cant open whatevertehfileis.run"
[01:33] <LjL> Sassuke: wir sprechen englisch hier
[01:33] <fliegenderfrosch> Sassuke: gerne in #ubuntu-de
[01:33] <erisco> ahh! crap
[01:33] <simplechat> usr13, unknown option reconfigure
[01:33] <t00na> Quick! I have some grandparents who know very little about computers, they bought a new computer, and I'm going to put a 'buntu on it. Gnome or KDE?
[01:33] <lfever_> fliegenderfrosch: thanks for the info, i will give that a try
[01:33] <LjL> anathematic: there's your problem. the first line is missing a #
[01:33] <erisco> I partitioned my disk and reinstalled ubuntu but there appears to be a problem with installing windows
[01:33] <anathematic> ahhh thanks
[01:33] <kailashamri1> we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?
[01:33] <Xenguy> t00na: gnome
[01:33] <usr13> simplechat, Actually, there is an easier way.
[01:34] <Sassuke> sry wechsele channel :D
[01:34] <simplechat> yes?
[01:34] <t00na> Xenguy: why?
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> t00na: That's a very touchy question.  Chances are folks here will vote Gnome, those in #kubuntu KDE.
[01:34] <anathematic> oh Ljl that was jsut my pasting
[01:34] <anathematic> it's there
[01:34] <tdizzy> i accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone PLEASE help me with this problem?
[01:34] <usr13> simplechat,  DO you have Ubuntu 7.04 CD you can boot to?
[01:34] <Xenguy> t00na: simpler, less options
[01:34] <t00na> Hm... okay
[01:34] <t00na> kthxbai!
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> t00na: You can always start with Gnome and switch later if you feel like it - you're not locked into one or the other.
[01:34] <simplechat> In the log file it says "Failed to load module fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) no drivers avalible
[01:34] <simplechat> yeah, i do
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> bah
[01:34] <usr13> simplechat, If so, boot to it and copy the xorg.conf file over to the hard drive.
[01:34] <_Jaak_> i am trying to setup a pptp vpn server, it works but when i connect to it the devices looses internet connection, what do i setup server side to give the clients acces to the internet of the server?
[01:35] <simplechat> usr13, ok
[01:35] <erisco> my partitions are as followings: Swap, EXT3, Unpartitioned Space, EXT3. When I try to install windows on the unpartitioned space it says the maximum number of partitions already exist. Is it impossible to use the unpartitioned space simply because there is partitioned space occuring after it?
[01:35] <erisco> what is going on?
[01:35] <whiskeytango> /notice godzirra hey would you mind walking me through getting these binary drivers to work for my 8500 GT ?
[01:35] <whiskeytango> bah
[01:35] <kailashamri1> we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?
[01:35] <sinizzl> how do i change my machine's domain name ?
[01:35] <simplechat> usr13, where would i find it on the disk?
[01:36] <LjL> anathematic: try  sudo cron -f  and see what it says then
[01:36] <usr13> simplechat, e.g.  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf   /mnt/hda2/etc/X11/     (using hypothetical mount point /mnt/hda2, you will have to customize as needed.)
[01:36] <anathematic> LjL: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 29146: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[01:36] <erisco> does anyone know?
[01:36] <LjL> anathematic: ok try again after  sudo invoke-rc.d cron stop
[01:36] <anathematic> LjL i've got my root account locked is that the problem maybe?
[01:36] <erisco> why will windows not install on the available free space? :s
[01:36] <LjL> anathematic: of course not. the root account is *supposed* to be locked.
[01:37] <anathematic> ahh i see
[01:37] <anathematic> LjL: done :)
[01:37] <usr13> simplechat, Once it boots up and is working ok, open a terminal and copy the xorg.conf file to the HD, (as shown above(.
[01:37] <simplechat> usr13, ok, i just need to find the cd
[01:37] <Pelo> erisco, where is the free space located ? windows likes being on the first partition of the boot hdd
[01:37] <simplechat> and my computer is taking a long time to cycle
[01:37] <Mr_Siebel> Can anybody tell me how to go about finding open ports on my machine?
[01:37] <LjL> erisco: are you sure there aren't *four* partitions already?
[01:37] <thesaint4444> LjL: that was really helpfull, thanks. When i look at my fstab there is no seperate partition for /home - it must be contained within root, does that make things easier if I add a new mount point?
[01:37] <erisco> Pelo,  2GB Swap, 20GB EXT3, 58GB Unpartitioned Space, 120GB EXT3
[01:38] <vmlinuz`> hey
[01:38] <LjL> thesaint4444: neither easier nor harder.
[01:38] <erisco> LjL, nope
[01:38] <LjL> !info nmap | Mr_Siebel
[01:38] <ubotu> mr_siebel: nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB
[01:38] <vmlinuz`> whats the command to re-configure xfce dsktop as a start
[01:38] <Pelo> erisco, boot the ubuntu live cd,  move the partitions so the unalocated space is at the beginning of the hdd
[01:38] <tdizzy> i accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone PLEASE!!!!!! help me with this problem?
[01:38] <erisco> Pelo, but that puts windows at the end of the disk... it will be slow :(
[01:38] <LjL> anathematic: so what does it say now?
[01:39] <anathematic> LjL: well it saids that it stopped it
[01:39] <anathematic> i'll start it again
[01:39] <LjL> anathematic: no.
[01:39] <anathematic> okay
[01:39] <LjL> anathematic: i meant to type  cron -f  now
[01:39] <erisco> Pelo, what would you recommend I do to arrange my partitions in a good order?
[01:40] <thesaint4444> Mr_Siebel: netstat -nlt - use man netstat....
[01:40] <anathematic> LjL: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 29194: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[01:40] <erisco> Pelo, I wouldn't want 58GB of windows right at the start... I previously installed windows at the end
[01:40] <Pelo> erisco,  are you trying to install windows on a ext3 partition ? can'T do that , you need to install in in unallocated space to windows format's it to nfts
[01:40] <Mark7> Evening all
[01:40] <tdizzy> i accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone help me with this problem?!!!!
[01:40] <thesaint4444> LjL - hmmm..
[01:40] <erisco> Pelo, no, I am trying to use the remaining space for windows
[01:40] <LjL> anathematic: ps aux | grep 29194
[01:40] <Mark7> The text in here is tiny
[01:40] <erisco> Pelo, but windows won't do it... I think it is because the remaining space is between two partitions
[01:40] <Semidios> okay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..
[01:41] <mcphail> tdizzy: when you use "sudo fdisk -l", what partition is your (restored) root partition?
[01:41] <sinizzl> in what file is my computer's domain name set ?
[01:41] <LjL> tdizzy, have you tried hitting "e" on your kernel item in GRUB, and making sure the *correct* partition is mentioned everywhere in the stuff that comes up?
[01:41] <Pelo> erisco,   I already told you what to do , move the unallocated space to the beginning of the hdd and install windows on that
[01:41] <erisco> Pelo, I have to factor 2GB swap, 20GB / (ext3), 120GB /home (ext3) and 58GB NTFS
[01:41] <tdizzy> yeah
[01:41] <tdizzy> it is
[01:41] <vmlinuz`> I didn't know what happened to my xfce, now I 'm in Xfce without any bars.. how to reconfigure it pls
[01:41] <erisco> Pelo, but I don't want windows at the very start... that is the fastest spot on the disk. I want my swap there :P
[01:41] <Pelo> erisco,  maybe you should ask in ##windows
[01:41] <tdizzy> hda6 is the partition
[01:41] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: rm -rf /tmp && rm -rf ~/.config as your normal user
[01:41] <anathematic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39324/
[01:42] <anathematic> oh yeah LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39324/
[01:42] <erisco> Pelo, nah this is a linux question :P
[01:42] <LjL> tdizzy: and there is no UUID mentioned anywhere?
[01:42] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: that basically resets the entire xfce config.
[01:42] <tdizzy> whatds UUID?
[01:42] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: Thanks.
[01:42] <Pelo> erisco,  it's about intalling windows that is a windows question
[01:42] <Pelo> !uuid | tdizzy
[01:42] <ubotu> tdizzy: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[01:42] <LjL> tdizzy: a long string of numbers and letters, as i said before.
[01:42] <vmlinuz`> that resets kde and gnome config too?
[01:42] <erisco> Pelo, no it is about using a linux based application to partition my disk
[01:42] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: beware of not accidentally deleting files in /tmp that u still want to use though... but i guess u know that urself
[01:42] <LjL> tdizzy: if you see one, change it into your partition name - /dev/whatever
[01:42] <tdizzy> UUID="637daae7-0816-45e1-a34a-faa5f6c3a985"
[01:43] <tdizzy> so i have to change that?
[01:43] <Pelo> erisco, right now it's about where to put windows,  you got my opinion , if you want a second opinion ask someone else
[01:43] <BarryToeman> My cut and paste stopped working.  Every paste ends up as "".  Select and paste with mouse middle button still works, however.
[01:43] <LjL> anathematic: so, cron is running, and it doesn't want to stop. try  sudo invoke-rc.d cron stop  once again, then see if it's still in  ps aux | grep cron ; if it is,  sudo killall -9 cron
[01:43] <erisco> Pelo, alrighty
[01:43] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: yea but there was a GUI popped on me when i first ran xfce to configure it. then after that it says "If you dislike this in future you can easily write this command 'blah blah' to re-configure it again"
[01:43] <MikeD_> how can i backup a large /home folder to multiple DVD?
[01:43] <vmlinuz`> but thing is sinizzl i can't remember that command 'blah blah' do you know it?
[01:43] <erisco> Pelo, do you think it would work if I put windows at the end of the drive though?
[01:43] <LjL> tdizzy: that is from your boot menu?
[01:43] <tussey> hey new version of flash is out, what's the easiest way to get it?
[01:43] <tdizzy> no...
[01:43] <tdizzy> lol
[01:44] <sayers> With cups I have my mom an ubuntu user, if I add her to the allowed printer users, even though she's on a different machine will it allow her to print?
[01:44] <anathematic> LjL:  it's stopped now after the killall -9 ...
[01:44] <tdizzy> theres no UUID in my boot menu
[01:44] <simplechat> usr13, i'm in the boot disk, and the mount point is disk, in /media
[01:44] <X3n> what the hell man, i cant listen to any mp3's now -.-, im getting no sound! it plays the files, but no sound!?, man this is random and starting to piss me off
[01:44] <anathematic> so LjL where from here? :)
[01:44] <Pelo> erisco, I beleive I said windows likes to be at the beginning,  if you want another answer on where it is best to install windows try asking in ##windows
[01:44] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: that command was certainly not those two i just gave you... would really surprise me if they were... in any case, it will do the job. xfce stores any settings in ~/.config but if u dont delete /tmp/ as well it ignores ur 'settings-reset'
[01:44] <LjL> tdizzy: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:44] <LjL> anathematic: "cron -f"
[01:44] <sky1> uggh, I need to extend the partition of my hard disk, I am using a dual bootup with Ubuntu and Vista, which tools should I use
[01:44] <Pelo> later folks
[01:45] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: no your command wasnt it.
[01:45] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: certainly not :D
[01:45] <anathematic> LjL: nothing is coming up now just a blank line?
[01:45] <sinizzl> i use both gnome-panel & xfce-panel at the same time... lol... xfce panel lacks some features i need ;-(
[01:45] <LjL> anathematic: it means it's running, apparently. stop it with ctrl+c
[01:45] <tdizzy> whats pastebin?
[01:45] <tdizzy> lol
[01:45] <LjL> !pastebin | tdizzy
[01:45] <ubotu> tdizzy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:45] <usr13> simplechat, Ok
[01:45] <vmlinuz`> rml: cannot remove `/tmp/.X11-unix/X0': Operation not permitted
[01:45] <vmlinuz`> rml: cannot remove `/tmp/.X0-lock': Operation not permitted
[01:45] <Photocopy> Anyone know of any other distrobutions that ship free CDs?
[01:45] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: why?
[01:45] <sinizzl> tdizzy: dunno. it has something to do with squirrels i think
[01:46] <anathematic> LjL: ahh yeah, so i've started it with & at the end
[01:46] <anathematic> and it seems fine
[01:46] <LjL> anathematic: ... no
[01:46] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: what u mean, why ?
[01:46] <sky1> I need to extend the partition of my hard disk, I am using a dual bootup with Ubuntu and Vista, which tools should I use
[01:46] <anathematic> mm?
[01:46] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: look at the error it gave me
[01:46] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: thats your command
[01:46] <anathematic> LjL, what should I had done then?
[01:46] <LjL> anathematic: you *need* to be able to start it with  sudo invoke-rc.d start . you *don't* want to start it manually. especially, it makes *no* sense to start it with &.
[01:46] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: i certainly hope u did not do it as root
[01:46] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: nop wasnt as root
[01:46] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: that thing i just gave only affects xfce4-session
[01:47] <usr13> simplechat, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf   /media/etc/X11/    (if the / partition is really mounted at /media )
[01:47] <tdizzy> where do i find the grub lst file? the ubuntu partition?
[01:47] <LjL> anathematic: so now kill the one you've started, and start it with  invoke-rc.d cron start , and see if syslog still gives error
[01:47] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: no. it affict something else too
[01:47] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: naturally it will complain while doing rm -rf /tmp/ for not all of the files/dirs belong to ur user
[01:47] <LjL> tdizzy: yes, in the ubuntu partition, in the /boot/grub directory
[01:47] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: that is ?
[01:47] <fliegenderfrosch> tdizzy: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:47] <ben_> I just found out I've got a PCI card reader built into my laptop. On XP, when I insert my SD camera card, it automatically mounts it as a generic volunme. Is this hardware supported on ubuntu, and if so how would I go about mounting it?
[01:47] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: KDE & Gnome configuration
[01:47] <BarryToeman> MikeD_: try http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html
[01:47] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: gnome stores its config in ~/.gnome ~/.gconf etc.
[01:47] <_Jaak_> Can anyone point me in a direction on how to setup a pptp server to enable clients to acces the internet?
[01:47] <simplechat> usr13, ok, now i've got it back up
[01:47] <simplechat> :)
[01:47] <simplechat> thanks for your help! :)
[01:47] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: ~/.config is basically xfce and a bunch of other programs as well though
[01:47] <jbu311> can anyone hear me?
[01:48] <Mr_Siebel> How do I netstat myself?
[01:48] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: let me reboot and see if that fixes tmhe problem
[01:48] <OleMoudi> MikeD_, use tar with -M to specify multivolume and -L volume size
[01:48] <usr13> simplechat, NP
[01:48] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: dont need to reboot for that, just restart X
[01:48] <Photocopy> If i have a 50GB partition with 20GB of files on it, and i try to partition it into two 25GB partitions will one partition have all the files  still and the other be blank?
[01:48] <simplechat> jbu311, go to a terminal and type netstat
[01:48] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: that what im gonna do, brb
[01:48] <sinizzl> k
[01:48] <usr13> jbu311, We can't hear you but we can see you.
[01:48] <tdizzy> LjL: i put it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39326/
[01:48] <anathematic> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39327/
[01:48] <jbu311> thanks!
[01:48] <usr13> jbu311, Comb your hair!
[01:48] <Pici> Photocopy: You'd have to resize it and add a new partition.
[01:48] <tussey> hey the new version of Flash is out for linux. what is the preferred way of installing this onto my ubuntu system?
[01:49] <jbu311> usr13: it's combed
[01:49] <Photocopy> Pici
[01:49] <usr13> jbu311, Ok, that's better...
[01:49] <Pici> Photocopy
[01:49] <Photocopy> And will that make me lose the files?
[01:49] <sinizzl> tussey: it is ? schweet.
[01:49] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: same thing, im still in trouble :(
[01:49] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: if u launch xfce4-panel from terminal, does it give u any error ?
[01:49] <LjL> anathematic, if the lines from the invoke-rc.d command are the ones starting from 19:42:17, then they seem fine (i suspect the other ones are the ones from when you did  cron -f ).
[01:49] <Pici> Photocopy: It shouldnt. But its no paritioning is 100% flawless.
[01:49] <erisco> does anyone know generally how much speed difference there is at the start of the drive in comparison to the end of the drive?
[01:49] <LjL> anathematic: ps aux | grep cron - if it's running, i think it should be fine.
[01:50] <Photocopy> Pici: Which is better for dualboot, install windows, then ubuntu? or ubuntu, then windows
[01:50] <erisco> is it really more-so negligible?
[01:50] <mcphail> tdizzy: i think the hd0,6 lines need to be hd0,5
[01:50] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: nop
[01:50] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: it started them!!
[01:50] <Pici> Photocopy: Windows then Ubuntu
[01:50] <mcphail> tdizzy: but i could be wrong
[01:50] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: did u rm -rf /tmp/ ?
[01:50] <`DayWalker> i install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?
[01:50] <anathematic> LjL: yeah it's up and running fine
[01:50] <anathematic> ty
[01:50] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: yep
[01:50] <sky1> Is it ok to use GParted to do my partition from within Ubuntu, will my windows be ok after parition(would be able to use it)
[01:50] <Photocopy> Pici: Good cause windows is already installed.
[01:50] <LjL> erisco: why believe figures that random people give you?
[01:50] <LjL> !info bonnie++ | erisco
[01:50] <ubotu> erisco: bonnie++: Hard drive bottleneck testing benchmark suite.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.03abuild1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 144 kB
[01:50] <tdizzy> mcphail: ok, if i mess it up i can fix it, correct?
[01:50] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: try it like this: rm -rf /tmp/ && rm -rf  ~/.config && kill -9 -1
[01:50] <mcphail> tdizzy: from the livecd, yes
[01:51] <tdizzy> k
[01:51] <erisco> LjL, what are you suggesting?...
[01:51] <vmlinuz`> the rm -rf /tmp/ "gives errors"
[01:51] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: naturally.
[01:51] <Photocopy> Does anyone know of any other distrobutions that ship free CDs? I don't have a burner, so I need to use things line ubuntu's shipit.
[01:51] <LjL> erisco: i'm suggesting that you install bonnie++ and run it. it will tell you which parts of your drive are faster, and by how much.
[01:51] <vmlinuz`> so why my xfce panels arent showing for me
[01:51] <erisco> LjL, even if it isn't all partitioned yet?
[01:52] <`DayWalker> i install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?
[01:52] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: because they're not in your xfce4-session.rc anymore
[01:52] <LjL> erisco: that might be a problem, i don't remember if bonnie can work on unpartitioned space. try.
[01:52] <tussey> does Envice support editing PDFs with fields?
[01:52] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: I want to configure my xfce4-session with a GUI
[01:52] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: i want that gui that popped on me when i first ran xfce
[01:52] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: i wrote my own .xsession exactly because of this problem
[01:52] <fliegenderfrosch> tussey, only in gnome 2.20 afaik
[01:52] <erisco> LjL, *shrug*
[01:52] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: send it to me
[01:52] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: let me try it, at least ebetter than nothing
[01:52] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: xfce4-session insanely alters its configuration in whatever aspect it feels like at the moment
[01:52] <erisco> LjL, I am just worried about installing windows at the end of my drive is all. I don't want it to be sluggish
[01:52] <tussey> what version of GNOME does ubuntu 7.04 have?
[01:53] <erisco> LjL, and it is 200GB drive at that
[01:53] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: are you using gdm/kdm or something like that ?
[01:53] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: i'd like to have my panels
[01:53] <LjL> erisco, even if i told you what the percentage figures are for my drive, would it be applicable to your drive?
[01:53] <fliegenderfrosch> tussey: 2.18
[01:53] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: yea i use one of them, not sure which >_<
[01:53] <Photocopy> Is there any other distrobutions with shipit?
[01:53] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl:  a login screen pops on me on started up
[01:53] <Photocopy> or something similar?
[01:54] <vmlinuz`> i can't u se backspace on this terminal, that sucks >(
[01:54] <fliegenderfrosch> tussey: you could use "acroread" with "acroread-plugins"
[01:54] <erisco> LjL, no. However, I understood it as simply logic that the farther the arm has to travel to get the information the longer it is going to take
[01:54] <usr13>  vmlinuz` Get another keyboard.
[01:54] <LjL> erisco: that is true. how important that effect is, however, depends on the drive.
[01:54] <vmlinuz`> usr13: my keyboard is fine, only this terminal is odd.
[01:54] <tussey> thanks I'll give that a try
[01:54] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: doesn't matter. what u have to do is: create a ~/.xsession file that contains all that xfce stuff. tell gdm/kdm whatever to use .xession by selecting 'default session' at login. i can send u an example of my flavor of .xsession (mostly xfce stuff)
[01:55] <erisco> LjL, bonnie++ takes a long time. I am impatient I guess :P
[01:55] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: send pls
[01:55] <theverant> hey - how long should a fsck /dev/sdc1 take if the drive is 500GB?
[01:55] <sky1> how can I use GParted to resize my partition ? I cant unmount within Ubuntu
[01:55] <LjL> erisco: ok: 20% difference.
[01:55] <tussey> how would I go about installing acroread? I didn't find it in SPM
[01:55] <Pici> sky1: Run it from the LiveCD.
[01:55] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: i want to send you something
[01:55] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: http://rafb.net/p/DZDqGf80.html <- as u can see there's also non-xfce related stuff in there. just erase those two lines
[01:55] <erisco> LjL, yours is a 20% difference?
[01:55] <LjL> erisco: perhaps 30% if your drive is not running in silent mode.
[01:55] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: reset?
[01:56] <sky1> Pici:ok
[01:56] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: reset command?
[01:56] <LjL> erisco: about it.
[01:56] <BarryToeman> Photocopy: go to distrowatch.com.  Or on-disk.com will mail you distributions for a few dollars each.
[01:56] <vmlinuz`> scguy318: what command
[01:56] <norgul> hi folks
[01:56] <erisco> LjL, holy crap that is terrible
[01:56] <theverant> I'm having touble booting because of a forced check hanging
[01:56] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: reset
[01:56] <fliegenderfrosch> tussey, it's available in the medibuntu repo
[01:56] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: maybe it could rectify your terminal
[01:56] <sinizzl> scguy318: how can u reset xfce4 session? i only know a rather complicated way
[01:56] <norgul> is there a channel where the ubuntu "developers" are?
[01:56] <vmlinuz`> scguy318: how can i reset
[01:56] <theverant> to a entirely storage drive
[01:56] <mcphail> theverant: be patient
[01:56] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: by typing reset
[01:56] <vmlinuz`> reset
[01:56] <scguy318> sinizzl: what do you mean?
[01:56] <tussey> how do access that? Sorry I'm new to ubuntu
[01:57] <sinizzl> scguy318: nevermind
[01:57] <theverant> mcphail - ok... that's good to know :)  The other drives I did went super quick... I'll just leave it along for a bit though
[01:57] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: he apparently meant something else^^
[01:57] <mcphail> theverant: the fsck can take ages and appear to hang
[01:57] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: is that all your .xsession ?
[01:57] <mcphail> theverant: remember you can turn forced checking off in the future
[01:57] <fliegenderfrosch> tussey: see http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:57] <theverant> mcphail - that is oddly comforting.  I will do that, because this is silly
[01:57] <theverant> I will also backup my drive more often
[01:57] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: it is. comment the two lines that contain 'gnome' and u got exactly teh same thing as a plain xfce session. xfce launches by default xfwm4, xfdesktop && xfce4-panel, that's about it.
[01:58] <theverant> it's been a couple weeks and I have hundreds of pictures on there not backed up yet... :| kinda nerve racking
[01:58] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: xfdesktop has its own settings manager, such as gnome-settings-daemon or whatever that thing's called.
[01:58] <mcphail> theverant: indeed :)
[01:59] <erisco> LjL, I didn't understand the output whatsoever
[01:59] <joshhunt> hello
[01:59] <eg2> Hello, I installed ubuntu right over my win XP. it said it will save my docmuments and some settings.... where is my documents?
[01:59] <sinizzl>  eg2 probably lost in space
[01:59] <joshhunt> !ntfs
[01:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:59] <Flannel> eg2: in your home folder (Places > Home)
[01:59] <cyph3r> anyone know how to open a port for samba from the command line?
[01:59] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: i save them into file called ".xsesson" ?
[02:00] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: and the numbers included?
[02:00] <erisco> Machine        Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP
[02:00] <erisco> ericLinux        2G 37112  82 46497  20 17781   9 39161  65 44841   6 181.6   1
[02:00] <erisco> that's what I got
[02:00] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: no, the numbers ahve been added by rafb.net
[02:00] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: it's basically 4 lines
[02:00] <sinizzl> but u need 'exec xfdesktop' at the end. don't know why but withouth the 'exec' it behaves buggy at times.
[02:00] <LjL> erisco: the package is bonnie++, but the program from it that you want to use is zcav, "man zcav"
[02:00] <eg2> Flannel: i can only see a shortcut to examples and a desktop icon there.
[02:00] <erisco> LjL, that is what bonnie told me
[02:01] <erisco> LjL, is it suggesting that I can write 37MB/sec to the start and only 0.2MB/s to the end??
[02:01] <LjL> erisco: yeah but that doesn't say anything about the speeds of the various zones of your harddrive. you run zcav for that.
[02:01] <LjL> erisco: no, nothing of the sort
[02:03] <decay> Anyone can help me with twinview modes? I think metamodes is the problem
[02:03] <Flannel> eg2: I believe the migration thing puts stuff there.  I might be wrong though.  Did you check the "My Documents" when given the chance in the installer?
[02:03] <eg2> i checked something that it should save my documents from win xp
[02:03] <cyph3r> quit
[02:04] <eg2> can't recall the exact frase in installation
[02:04] <LjL> erisco: perhaps you want to use the -c option to use a block size larger than the default 100 megabytes, with such a large drive. if you try 1 gigabyte, i'll do the same on my machine and we can compare the results.
[02:04] <erisco> LjL, I cannot seem to get zcav to do anything
[02:04] <eg2> oh, btw. there is a channel for ubuntu where i can discuss compiz fusion and stuff. whats the channel name?
[02:04] <Flannel> eg2: Right,  http://www.michaellarabel.com/external/migration-assistant-2.png  And you did check the "my documents"?
[02:04] <LjL> erisco, it needs sudo.
[02:04] <Flannel> eg2: #ubuntu-effects
[02:05] <erisco> Ljl, sudo zcav - -b 1000M    ?
[02:05] <LjL> erisco:  sudo zcav -b 1000M /dev/hda  (assuming /dev/hda is your drive)
[02:05] <eg2> Flannel: where it says michael microsoft windows xp bla bla, i just checked michael. didn't notice there was a dropdown menu. but if i checked it, it must have checked all the stuff, right?
[02:06] <erisco> LjL, mine is sda I believe. what changes the h to an s? I dunno
[02:06] <LjL> erisco: obviously, you should run it with as little disk load as possible (i.e. don't copy 4gb files while running it ;)
[02:06] <Semidios> okay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..
[02:06] <LjL> erisco: being SATA rather than IDE, most likely.
[02:06] <erisco> LjL, just have chat running
[02:06] <erisco> LjL, ah yes I believe it is a SATA
[02:06] <Flannel> eg2: I have no idea.  What that might've done is made a user with that name, which is where your stuff is (different than the user youre on currently)
[02:07] <erisco> LjL, so since I am doing 100gig blocks it will do this 200 times?
[02:07] <LjL> erisco: yes (1 gig, not 100 gig)
[02:07] <orin> So, Gutsy will come out soon. Will it break a lot of stuff with AppArmor?
[02:07] <LjL> erisco: if you had partitions on it, you could test the single partitions and make it quicker.
[02:07] <erisco> LjL, yes, 1 gig hehe. What? you didn't think I had a 2TB drive?
[02:07] <Flannel> orin: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions, thanks.
[02:07] <LjL> erisco: ;)
[02:07] <erisco> LjL, I will be here all night with only 1gb blocks
[02:08] <searayman> can somone help me with usign webrunner?
[02:08] <erisco> LjL, I am only on 8
[02:08] <LjL> erisco, i'm on 6. but even if we increase the block size, i doubt it will take any shorter.
[02:08] <erisco> LjL, all I want is the start of the drive then the end of the drive
[02:08] <eg2> Flannel: damnit. is it possible to recover the files in it? i had some vacation pictures in it that i dont want to loose!
[02:08] <joshhunt> so i just installed the beta of ubuntu 7.10 and the updater tool thing pops up and tells me that i have a mountain load of updates to do. when the updater opens up, it tells me "Not all updates can be installed. Run a partial update, to install as many possilbe" etc, it then lists reasons why thawt might be the case
[02:08] <erisco> LjL, I just want a smooth general line between the two
[02:09] <LjL> erisco: unfortunately that isn't possible unless you first create two partitions, one at the start and one at the end
[02:09] <erisco> LjL, I have a 120GB partition at the end
[02:09] <LjL> erisco: still a bit big
[02:09] <Mr_Siebel> How do I open my iptables?
[02:09] <erisco> LjL, and I still cannot figure out how to get windows to use that free unpartitioned space
[02:09] <joshhunt> when i go to do the partial update, it brings up a disto upgrade box, and starts doing that... should i go throgh with that or apply the updates the normal way
[02:09] <searayman> can somoen help me with usign webrunner, i cont figure it out
[02:10] <LjL> erisco, i don't know about that
[02:10] <Pelo> joshhunt, gutsy is still in beta , so unless you want the beta don'T upgrade the distro yet
[02:10] <amio> is there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??
[02:11] <joshhunt> okies, thanks
[02:11] <LjL> erisco: let me see if we can use a trick with 'dd' instead
[02:11] <erisco> LjL, I am depressed because if it is impossible I have to reformat entirely again
[02:11] <joshhunt> so the distro upgrade will 'downgrade' it to 7.04?
[02:12] <Pelo> joshhunt,  the distro upgrade will upgrade to gutsy
[02:12] <amio> no one knows?
[02:12] <mguezuraga> I have a amd x2 4400, with 2 gb of RAM, basic services started, and gnome takes "a lot of time" to draw the desktop and finish loading. What can cause this? (ubuntu 64 bits)
[02:12] <joshhunt> but ive already got gutsy
[02:12] <joshhunt> the beta of it
[02:12] <Pelo> joshhunt, if you are already running one of the gutsy alphas ( tribes)  I guess you will get upgraded to the latest beta but you should ask in #ubuntu+1 about that
[02:13] <searayman> can somoen help me with webrunner?
[02:13] <erisco> LjL, any luck
[02:13] <joshhunt> no, im pretty sure ive got the beta
[02:13] <enigma_ew> hi all, i have an ATI x1250 on board graphics card... i try to run compiz fusion but i cant :( how can I run compiz or berly with ATI x1250??  thanks...
[02:13] <LjL> erisco: i'm reading the man, but yes, i think so
[02:13] <joshhunt> ill ask in #ubuntu+1 then...
[02:13] <amio> is there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??
[02:13] <Pelo> amio, check in synaptic
[02:13] <acid-trip> mysqltcl 3.03 <-- does anyone know when that is gonna be released into packages?
[02:14] <amio> Pelo but in synaptic which program already downloaded few but not editors
[02:14] <Pelo> acid-trip, if it is a different version ( as oppose to an update) with the next distro
[02:14] <acid-trip> :/
[02:14] <Flannel> acid-trip: It'll be in Hardy
[02:14] <Flannel> or, should be.
[02:15] <Pelo> amio, that's all i have for you , try checking on www.getdeb.net
[02:15] <acid-trip> i wonder if i could build it from source
[02:15] <docko> i just added a new user to my FF ubuntu server and i disabled user root, but it didn't create new user's home directory and sudo does absolutely nothing.... what can i do now? i have only ssh access to the server
[02:15] <acid-trip> i need it for one of my tcl scripts
[02:15] <Pelo> acid-trip, then go ahead and build it ,  just google for the source
[02:15] <Flannel> acid-trip: ACtually, it's already in feisty.
[02:15] <erisco> LjL, I am on 33 and the results are still the same
[02:16] <joshhunt> how can i check for what version im running?
[02:16] <_Roman> I have an ssh connection from one ubuntu machine to another with X forwarding enabled.  Is it possible to send a window that is running on the remote machine to my local machine (this is a window/process that is already running on the remote machine)
[02:16] <LjL> erisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10           <- to see how fast the *beginning* of the drive is (reads 1Gb of data)
[02:16] <Pelo> joshhunt,  the first tab of the system monitor in the admin menu
[02:16] <joshhunt> of ubuntu via cli?
[02:16] <Flannel> joshhunt: lsb_release -a
[02:16] <usr13> joseaa, lsb_release -a
[02:16] <amio> is there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??
[02:17] <usr13> sorry that was for joshhunt  not joseaa
[02:17] <enigma_ew> hi all, i have an ATI x1250 on board graphics card... i try to run compiz fusion but i cant :( how can I run compiz or berly with ATI x1250??  thanks...
[02:17] <Flannel> acid-trip: No, I guess it's not.  Date of update is wrong. but, 02 to 03 is a bugfix, you should talk to the package maintainer, and get it updated.
[02:17] <joshhunt> thanks XD
[02:17] <Pelo> enigma_ew, ask in #compis-fusion or in #ubuntu-effects
[02:17] <acid-trip> ...
[02:17] <acid-trip> Flannel, how do i find out who the manager is
[02:17] <acid-trip> :/
[02:18] <enigma_ew> Pelo: THNX
[02:18] <eg2> how do i get youtube videos to work in firefox?
[02:18] <LjL> erisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10 seek=1800   <- to see how fast the *end* of the drive is (the "1800" is for "start after 100mb*1800", which should be around 180gb -- i'm not making that 200, because i suppose that is the size in decimal gigabytes)
[02:18] <Pelo> !flash | eg2
[02:18] <ubotu> eg2: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:18] <shk> does the update manager delete the old versions of the things it updates?  or is my hard drive slowly dwindling away?
[02:18] <erisco> LjL, 17.6s
[02:18] <Pelo> shk, deleted
[02:18] <acid-trip> !mysqltcl
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysqltcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <erisco> LjL, sorry, 17.4
[02:18] <shk> Pelo, is there any other maintenance i should be doing?
[02:18] <Pelo> !info mysqltcl | acid-trip
[02:18] <ubotu> acid-trip: mysqltcl: Interface to the MySQL database for the Tcl language. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.02-1 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 116 kB
[02:19] <shk> defrag, clearing temp files, etc ?
[02:19] <orangefly> i was accessing a windows machine just fine until i plugged it in instead of wireless....can anyone help....???....
[02:19] <LjL> erisco: sorry that last command is wrong
[02:19] <usr13> shk, No, just enjoy.
[02:19] <amio> any one knows agood pdf editor or converter to doc format? (not pdfeditor or kword though)
[02:19] <searayman> webrunner help anyoen i am stuck......
[02:19] <Flannel> acid-trip: It's in the package details (in synaptic) or apt-cache show [package]
[02:19] <Pelo> shk,  sudo apt-get autoclean    and also check in synaptic,  use the status display(lower left) to see if there are any packages that you can safely remove
[02:19] <erisco> LjL, it gave me 17.5s anyways
[02:20] <wastrel> is there a better terminal for mac os than er
[02:20] <shk> ok thank you
[02:20] <usr13> shk, Linux  pretty much takes care of itself
[02:20] <Pelo> amio,  did you check in getdeb.net ?
[02:20] <erisco> LjL, how do I correct that last one
[02:20] <wastrel> "terminal"
[02:20] <LjL> erisco: yeah but it's still checking the *beginning* of the drive again, so it's unsurprising it gives about the same value
[02:20] <shk> i just feel bad not doing anything
[02:20] <shk> i feel like i should be checking something
[02:20] <shk> keeping it clean
[02:20] <shk> etx
[02:20] <amio> Pelo nothing there is only pdfeditor and Ihave it it doesnt work good
[02:20] <LjL> erisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10 skip=1800      <--- skip not seek
[02:20] <LjL> this should be it
[02:20] <wastrel> pdfedit
[02:20] <Pelo> shk,   you need the #windows-withdrawl channel
[02:20] <acid-trip> Flannel, how hard is it to take a source and make a quick deb out of it?
[02:21] <shk> lmao
[02:21] <usr13> shk  You're experiencing the freedom we talk about when we brag about Linux.
[02:21] <shk> i suppose i am
[02:21] <erisco> LjL, HOLY ****
[02:21] <erisco> LjL, 30.9s
[02:21] <usr13> Pelo, ha ha... yea prolly so...
[02:21] <shk> but surely defragmenting is necessary?
[02:21] <LjL> erisco: some difference, you see.
[02:21] <shk> for any hard drive...
[02:21] <erisco> LjL, that is almost double
[02:21] <Pelo> shk,   no defrag needed in ext3
[02:21] <usr13> shk, No, do fragmentation either.
[02:22] <LjL> erisco: although, i cannot guarantee that there aren't any 'dd' artifacts at work there. it'd really be better to spend the time with zcav, to be sure.
[02:22] <usr13> shk, No, fragmentation either.
[02:22] <Pelo> shk,   you can actualy enjoy your computer now ,  just go with it
[02:22] <shk> haha
[02:22] <shk> incredible :o
[02:22] <tdizzy> when im trying to boot my ubuntu partition, it keeps giving me various errors that tell me the permissions aren't as they're supposed to be. is there any way to set this back to the default?
[02:22] <usr13> shk, Just enjoy the ride.
[02:22] <Pelo> shk,  if you realy want to do something you cna install fancontrol , and stuff like that   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[02:23] <shk> nah, i use a laptop
[02:23] <Pelo> shk,  basicaly  ....  don't worry,  be happy
[02:23] <shk> kinda excessive
[02:23] <shk> :D
[02:23] <shk> fantastic.
[02:23] <shk> where do i pay?
[02:23] <shk> :P
[02:23] <usr13> Just use my paypal account  :)
[02:24] <Pelo> shk,  no need for that either but you can send donations on the site, or to any linux or FOSS  org you want
[02:24] <shk> wonderful
[02:24] <davidthedrake> Occasionally my computer becomes unresponsive - that is to say I can move the mouse around but cannot interact with anything open on the desktop. It appears happen randomly for no particular reason. Has anyone else experienced this and/or heard of a solution for this?
[02:24] <shk> thanks again guys
[02:24] <usr13> shk,  Yes, seriously, you can donate to any of your favorite projects.
[02:24] <tdizzy> when im trying to boot my ubuntu partition, it keeps giving me various errors that tell me the permissions aren't as they're supposed to be. is there any way to set this back to the default?
[02:24] <usr13> but that's optional.
[02:24] <davidthedrake> Oh, and it unfreezes after about 15-30 seconds.
[02:24] <scguy318> tdizzy: wut errors specifically?
[02:25] <unagi> anyone here use maya?
[02:25] <Pelo> davidthedrake,  several ppl have mentionned something likethat,  I've experienced similar on rare occasion , usualy FF related
[02:25] <varustah> ubuntu is my love
[02:25] <LjL> erisco: on my drive, which is 160gb, i get 18 seconds for the first gb, and 34 seconds for the 150th gigabyte
[02:25] <abatshy> hi
[02:25] <joshhunt> !pastebuckey
[02:25] <rav> Can anyone help me, im looking for a update for my VGA driver. But i cannot tell what VGA i have, here is the pastebin http://rafb.net/p/0iz22M48.html
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebuckey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <joshhunt> !pastebucket
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebucket - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <abatshy> hi every 1
[02:25] <joshhunt> !paste
[02:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:26] <davidthedrake> Pelo, a friend of mine reported that switching from the 64-bit install to the 32-bit install stopped this behavior, are you running 64-bit?
[02:26] <erisco> LjL, I'll kill windows if I put it at the end. that is what I know now anyways
[02:26] <amio> any one knows agood pdf editor or converter to doc format? (not pdfeditor or kword though)
[02:26] <Pelo> rav, why do you think you need to update your vga driver ?
[02:26] <wastrel> amio: no such thing.
[02:26] <acid-trip> Flannel, can u answer me?
[02:26] <erisco> LjL, well thanks for your help
[02:26] <vmlinuz`> is KDE stable for ubuntu?
[02:26] <abatshy> hu
[02:26] <abatshy> hi
[02:26] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, Yes
[02:27] <Pelo> davidthedrake,  no ,  x86, in my case I'm fairly certain it's ff related and it is very rare, so I don'T fret about it
[02:27] <cafuego> vmlinuz`: As stable as for any other distro, sure.
[02:27] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: Thanks.
[02:27] <varustah> pdfcreator
[02:27] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, There is even kubuntu which is a version with KDE by default instead of Gnome
[02:27] <vmlinuz`> but whats the default WM for ubuntu?
[02:27] <tdizzy> well the first one i got said something about the home directory not being writeable; fixed that; now it says something about $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored...file should be owned by user...$HOME directory must be owned by user and not writeable by other users.
[02:27] <rav> because, i was speaking with some gents in winehq channel, and im having a problem with my warcraft III installation, and he said i should update my VGA
[02:27] <LjL> erisco: one thing, remember that this is *linear* reading speed
[02:27] <LjL> erisco: i.e. we're reading contiguous bytes
[02:27] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, Gnome, but there is also Kubuntu and Xubuntu ( KDE and XFCE )
[02:27] <RedEyess> Hi
[02:27] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: a whole distro just to make KDE default? Doesn't make sens >_<
[02:28] <RedEyess> I have a laptop with SATA
[02:28] <davidthedrake> Pelo, rgr that. Yea, it seems to be a fairly frequent thing for me. I noticed that updating to the latest kernel build did make it happen less frequently, but it still occurs nonetheless. I guess I will search elsewhere for a solution. Thanks though ;)
[02:28] <searayman> web runner anyone?
[02:28] <cafuego> vmlinuz`: Metacity actually, which is the Gnome wm.
[02:28] <erisco> LjL, so real read time is obviously worse
[02:28] <RedEyess> how do I get the hard drive to be faster?
[02:28] <decay> if i 'upgrade' to the beta, will i lose files in my ~ dir?
[02:28] <LjL> erisco: if we were jumping around (which is what really happens, mostly, when you use a disk "for real"), we would probably see much less difference, since much - probably most - of the time would be spent in seeking
[02:28] <wastrel> amio: /win 4
[02:28] <Pelo> rav, what release are you running ?
[02:28] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, It also uses QT apps by default
[02:28] <wastrel> nvm
[02:28] <cafuego> RedEyess: linera accelerator or rail gun
[02:28] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: whats QT?
[02:28] <LjL> erisco: yes, read read time is worse, but the difference between beginning and end is lesser
[02:28] <Pelo> davidthedrake, in your shoes I would give the forum a quick search
[02:28] <rav> Ubuntu fiesty
[02:28] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, It's not really a different distro, just a different set of default applications
[02:28] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: ah ok
[02:29] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: will be a Kubuntu in the new UBUNTU?
[02:29] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, No
[02:29] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: why
[02:29] <cafuego> RedEyess: In other words: you can't really make disks be faster. You could buy a faster disk or use raid
[02:29] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: of course
[02:29] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: well, lemme check
[02:29] <Pelo> rav, I honestly don'T know how you would go about changing the vga driver , all that needs updating should have been
[02:30] <RedEyess> ok
[02:30] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, There are no plans to make KDE default at the moment
[02:30] <Pelo> rav,  try doing a search in the www.ubuntufourms.org
[02:30] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: well, theres gonna be a nice Kubuntu 7.10
[02:30] <Pelo> www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:30] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: but KDE default won't be happening
[02:30] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: in Ubuntu
[02:37] <acid-trip> :/
[02:37] <cafuego> Linus says it's the law!
[02:37] <RedEyess> i install Ubuntu previously
[02:37] <RedEyess> 7.04
[02:37] <amio> wastrel how to get that?
[02:37] <tdizzy> scguy318: well the first one i got said something about the home directory not being writeable; fixed that; now it says something about $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored...file should be owned by user...$HOME directory must be owned by user and not writeable by other users.
[02:37] <RedEyess> and it was working fast
[02:37] <rav> can you look at my glxinfo and tell me what vga i got?
[02:37] <Flannel> acid-trip: To make a personal deb, use checkinstall.
[02:37] <vmlinuz`> scguy318: ok thanks.
[02:37] <Flannel> !checkinstall | acid-trip
[02:37] <ubotu> acid-trip: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[02:37] <RedEyess> now that I have reinstalled for some reason it is much slower
[02:37] <RedEyess> after two reinstalls
[02:37] <RedEyess> could it be an IO problem
[02:37] <acid-trip> i want mysqltcl3.03
[02:37] <acid-trip> :/
[02:37] <vmlinuz`> thing is "I'm now in KDE" and CS freezes quiet alot in kde.. in gnome it never happens >_<
[02:37] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, Why was your home directory not owned by you?
[02:37] <tdizzy> idk...
[02:37] <rav> http://rafb.net/p/0iz22M48.html
[02:37] <tdizzy> umm
[02:37] <tdizzy> i accidently deleted and restored the partition
[02:37] <scguy318> !checkinstall | acid-trip
[02:37] <tdizzy> and fixed the GRUB
[02:37] <scguy318> tdizzy: chmod 0777 your home?
[02:37] <ubotu> acid-trip: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[02:37] <usr13> Red_Tide, Show us your partition scheme.
[02:37] <tdizzy> and upon the first boot after that i got that error
[02:37] <tdizzy> umm from what?
[02:37] <`DayWalker> i install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?
[02:37] <usr13> RedEyess, , Show us your partition scheme.
[02:37] <Pelo> !enter | RedEyess
[02:37] <ubotu> RedEyess: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:37] <Pelo> !grub |
[02:37] <Pelo> !grub | `DayWalker
[02:37] <Pelo> ubotu,  on a break again ?
[02:37] <usr13> RedEyess, Paste it to pastebin
[02:37] <acid-trip> [02:37] <acid-trip> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[02:37] <brigan> what was that doc bar again
[02:37] <vmlinuz`> scguy318: do you think CSS freez alot cuz im in KDE?
[02:37] <scguy318> maybe the IRC server is
[02:37] <scguy318> i cant seem to whois
[02:37] <acid-trip> heh
[02:37] <acid-trip> checkinstall wont make me the package
[02:37] <acid-trip> :/
[02:41] <LjL> !netsplit
[02:41] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[02:41] <acid-trip> wb
[02:42] <wastrel> hi
[02:42] <acid-trip> Flannel, so any ideas?
[02:42] <acid-trip> checkinstall fails
[02:42] <usr13> RedEyess, If you've sent the link once, sorry, I missed it.  Please send again.
[02:43] <wa77ss> how can i make vlc the default application for all media files without right clicking every different file type?
[02:43] <RedEyess> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39333/
[02:44] <wa77ss> anyone know?
[02:44] <tdizzy> Jordan_U: i got the same error when i tried to boot again...
[02:44] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, Did you run "chmod -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername" ?
[02:45] <tdizzy> yeah
[02:45] <tdizzy> hmm
[02:45] <tdizzy> not chmod
[02:45] <wa77ss> hello?
[02:45] <tdizzy> i ran chown
[02:45] <tdizzy> lol
[02:45] <tdizzy> oops
[02:45] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, Sorry, it should be chown
[02:45] <wastrel> zom
[02:45] <wastrel> g
[02:45] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, You ran the correct command if you ran chown
[02:45] <tdizzy> oh ok
[02:45] <usr13> wa77ss, Go to one of the files in the file manager, right click on it, click properties and change the default application used to open the file.
[02:46] <unagi> how can i run archive manager with root access?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, can you pastebin the exact error again ( can't scroll up because of the netsplit :)
[02:46] <unagi> i would like to extract files in a restricted folder =/
[02:46] <wa77ss> usr13, ya, but i have to do that with every single different file type
[02:46] <astro76> unagi, gksudo file-roller
[02:46] <wa77ss> isnt there a simple way for ALL media files
[02:46] <tdizzy> ok
[02:47] <tdizzy> !pastebin
[02:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:47] <unagi> ty
[02:47] <Jordan_U> wa77ss, What are you trying to do?
[02:47] <tdizzy> lol
[02:47] <unagi> how can i set file-roller to use gksudo every time i open an archive?
[02:47] <wa77ss> just make vlc default audio/video player for all file types
[02:47] <taime1> can someone help mecan anyone help me get my sound working?
[02:47] <RedEyess> I will be back in 5
[02:48] <HealthyElijah> i know
[02:48] <tim167> taime1, in which program ?
[02:48] <wa77ss> i thought there would be a simple way, i dont want to right click on every different file type you know
[02:48] <Jordan_U> unagi, I wouldn't make it do that every time, but in the "open with" properties add the custom command "gksudo file-roller"
[02:48] <taime1> tim167: i have no sound at all...
[02:49] <taime1> ubuntu refuses to recognize this sound card
[02:49] <umop-apisdn> anyone familiar with remote x servers? i'm running xming on my windows box, and want to run firefox on the linux box to remove the possiblity of exploits
[02:49] <Jordan_U> wa77ss, There is a way to do that, forget how though.
[02:49] <wa77ss> ahah i think i came across it
[02:49] <wa77ss> a script, but it doesnt work for me
[02:49] <acid-trip> :/
[02:49] <acid-trip> piss me of
[02:49] <acid-trip> 8Off
[02:49] <Hubris2> Trying to get MSN messenger going through Moblock is driving me nuts.  I can connect (using Pidgin) only if I choose 'http', and then all outgoing messages fail.  What ports are needed?
[02:49] <Jordan_U> umop-apisdn, ssh -X ?
[02:49] <acid-trip> can't get this thing to work
[02:50] <umop-apisdn> Jordan_U: i'm using putty for the ssh
[02:50] <tim167> taime1 what does 'lspci | grep audio' say ?
[02:50] <wa77ss> maybe you can figure out how to make it work, heres the link - http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=40560
[02:50] <umop-apisdn> supposedly, i can export DISPLAY=(local ip):0 and make it work
[02:50] <Jordan_U> umop-apisdn, That is not secure
[02:50] <usr13> wa77ss, No,   you do it for each file type.
[02:50] <umop-apisdn> Jordan_U: why not? (not attacking, seeking info)
[02:51] <taime1> tim167: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[02:51] <FFighter> hey folks
[02:51] <tim167> taime1, can you run alsamixer ?
[02:51] <usr13> Hey FFighter
[02:51] <wa77ss> usr13, kk, thats the hard way but it works. thanks
[02:51] <FFighter> something like autohotkey for linux?
[02:51] <taime1> tim167: nope
[02:51] <taime1> tim167: says no device
[02:51] <FFighter> autohotkey is really handy and flexible
[02:52] <Pelo> FFighter, check in synaptic