[00:00] <wilee-nilee> bluefox83, What is the latest?
[00:00] <bluefox83> huh?
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> wrong nick
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> Vinnie_win, What is the latest?
[00:01] <bluefox83> heh, s'ok
[00:01] <bluefox83> gcc doesn't really get updated that often i wouldn't think...so it's likely already got the latest gcc
[00:03] <FastCode> you know, gcc's latest versions aren't faster just because their newer, They actually suck until the last few days before release, see phoronix.there are some really good benchmarks there.
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> Vinnie_win, I see debs on the internet.
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> http://pkgs.org/download/gcc
[00:07] <vaskaloidis> Hey I installed Nagios from the source and its not working - how do I uninstall it
[00:07] <vaskaloidis> I would like to reinstall it from apt-get
[00:08] <vaskaloidis> can I just go ahead and install it from apt-get maybe?
[00:08] <Prock81> i just figure out its a binary file so this dont work    egrep -v '\\|\.' file >> newfile
[00:09] <vaskaloidis> Anybody know?
[00:10] <exidos> What do you want to know?
[00:10] <Prock81> gedit locks up on open file, and leafpad only shows first 3 chars, nano works perfict but i cant copy the hole thing with nano
[00:10] <vaskaloidis> I installed nagios from source exidos but it doesn't work
[00:11] <exidos> What is the error msg?
[00:11] <Gerowen> So I've downloaded Xubuntu and am having the same problem I had with Ubuntu, when I boot from the install source, I get to the animated logo and it just sits there, animating away, but I never actually get to the installation.
[00:11] <vaskaloidis> exidos: I can't load the web interface
[00:11] <vaskaloidis> exidos: how do I know if its running
[00:11] <Gerowen> Prock81: As far as I'm aware, there is no text editor that will display the contents of a binary file, because it's binary.
[00:11] <vaskaloidis> ps aux says its running
[00:11] <exidos> Did you check the wiki from ubuntu vaskaloidis ?
[00:12] <exidos> Sry, I dont know what you have to do vaskaloidis
[00:12] <DititalIceCream> hello
[00:13] <reisio> : hi DititalIceCream
[00:15] <vaskaloidis> would it be bad to just install nagios through apt-get along side of its install from source
[00:16] <reisio> vaskaloidis: it would at the very least be redundant, don't you think?
[00:16] <vaskaloidis> got that right
[00:17] <jordilopezamat> hello ubuntu community
[00:17] <reisio> hello jordilopezamat
[00:17] <jordilopezamat> hello reisio
[00:17] <reisio> ;)
[00:18] <jordilopezamat> :-/ i'm a little bit puzzled ...
[00:18] <jordilopezamat> newbie here ... i' stucked on the following (it's not a "in production" server) ¿HOWTO optimise current partitioning? ? 1. i started from this disk partioning  http://db.tt/6tcKC9HW  2. then (temporarily) removed swap partition and tried to enlarge /home capacity... but i (stupidly) slipped onto this  http://db.tt/uteG7QaI
[00:18] <jordilopezamat> :-D
[00:19] <reisio> jordilopezamat: so what's the problem?
[00:19] <daftykins> ooh-err, two separate unallocated segments
[00:19] <jordilopezamat> ¿HOWTO optimise current partitioning? It's a little bit messy ...
[00:19] <daftykins> and a primary after an extended, eww
[00:19] <jordilopezamat> just want / , /home and /swap
[00:19] <jordilopezamat> :-/
[00:19] <daftykins> i'd back it up and start again
[00:20] <jordilopezamat> yes daftkyins... exactly :-/
[00:20] <jordilopezamat> start again from scratch you mean ?
[00:21] <jordilopezamat> i'm on a Live-Usb now , FYI
[00:21] <jordilopezamat> thanks again :-)
[00:21] <jordilopezamat> for your hints...
[00:22] <Marlenee> what mean that error while i install apt-get install htop : Segmentation faultsts... 20%
[00:22] <crypticmofo> hi all .. i used unetbootin to put a ubuntu iso onto it / i boot up and i get a boot 0 erro
[00:22] <crypticmofo> any ideas ?
[00:23] <chrs_> when i try to dpkg -i install a package i get a conflict error
[00:23] <chrs_> but when i try to uninstall the conflicting package, it wants to uninstall a bunch of other packages
[00:23] <chrs_> can i just swap them?
[00:24] <crypticmofo> anyone ?
[00:24] <crypticmofo> im trying to boot ubuntu from a usb drive ?
[00:24] <daftykins> crypticmofo: try universal usb installer from pendrivelinux.com
[00:24] <crypticmofo> ok
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> crypticmofo, Check the sum of the iso and maybe try another usb loader.
[00:25] <stirnwer> crypticmofo, ive had similar issues
[00:25] <crypticmofo> stirnwer i always have issues with unetbootin .. what we are both saying its a POS
[00:26] <stirnwer> crypticmofo, i find that a handy way is to install grub(4dos?) or syslinux on the usb and then add various operating systems to it
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> i have also had issues with unetbootin in the past. I tend to use the many tools at the Pendrivelinux web site
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> I really like the ones that setup grub2 to boot ISO files. that way you can have a single flashd rive that boots differnt disrtos
[00:26] <stirnwer> crypticmofo, then you may just try with various boot commands, edit the menu file if something goes wrong on first attempt
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> or i just 'dd' (image) the  iso file straight to the flash.
[00:28] <stirnwer> crypticmofo, "i boot up and i get a boot 0 erro" - could you spell out the entire error message?
[00:28] <jose> hey guys! I'm trying to install ubuntu server 12.04 from one of canonical's CDs, and I get the error
[00:29] <jose> oops, sorry
[00:29] <jose> error is: '/install/vmlinuz: file not found'
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | jose
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> first guess would be it was a bad iso file or a bad burn jose
[00:29] <reisio> jose: from the installation, or the CD as it boots up?
[00:30] <jose> reisio: once I get the screen to select the options
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> the screen on the Install cd?
[00:30] <reisio> jose: from an installation, or the CD?
[00:30] <jose> Dr_Willis, wilee-nilee: those checks have been done by the provider :)
[00:30] <jose> reisio: from the CD
[00:30] <reisio> okay
[00:30] <reisio> what Dr_Willis said, then
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> what provider?
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> jose, What provider?
[00:30] <Vinnie_win> wilee-nilee: I need 4.7.2 but I have 4.6.3
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> Ive definatly seen 'good' cd's not totally be readable by a differnt pc due to differances in the optical drive
[00:31] <jose> well, Canonical sends LoCos CDs that have been burnt by a provider, they make sure images are the same and there are no burn failures
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> Vinnie_win, What release you running?
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> I would be very much suprised if they verify every single cd.
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> burn them in bulk, ship them out.
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[00:31] <daftykins> verifications can be quick processes after a burn though
[00:32] <crypticmofo> thanks
[00:32] <tgm4883> jose, I'd be surprised if the canonical shipped CD's were burnt
[00:32] <jose> yeah, I'm trying with another one
[00:33] <jose> and another CD gives out the same result
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> jose, I would get the iso from the torrent it checks them.
[00:33] <tgm4883> or zsync
[00:34] <jose> wilee-nilee: as I said, I didn't download the ISO.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> jose, Did I say you did?
[00:34] <bluefox83> ok, so i finally just broke down and i'm moving files one folder at a time and rsync just wasn't working, kept saying operation wasn't permitted...no idea what that was about. but it's currently sending at a whopping 600k across the wifi
[00:34] <KM0201> jose: well is downloading the ISO not an option for some reason?
[00:34] <bluefox83> afk
[00:34] <jose> indirectly, but let's get back to the point :)
[00:34] <jose> KM0201: I already did, and it was torrented
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> jose, Your point is pointless if you want help.
[00:35] <KM0201> if it was torrented, then it's not the ISO
[00:35] <reisio> well, it could be the ISO :)
[00:35] <chrs_> i want to install package a2.deb but it conflicts with a1.deb. but a lot of packages depend on a1.deb. is there an easy way to do a swap?
[00:35] <tgm4883> what what?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> canonical has torrents
[00:35] <jose> wilee-nilee: well, I'll try with some other people around, thanks anyways!
[00:35] <reisio> chrs_: what're the packages? :p
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> chrs_:  dpkg -i foo1.deb foo2.deb foo3.deb
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> chrs_:  oh wait i miisread that.
[00:36] <chrs_> reisio: they're on my local hard disk
[00:36] <KM0201> you should be able to remove "a2" w/o removing all its dependencies
[00:36] <OerHeks> jose so what is your CPU architecture?
[00:36] <chrs_> ok, you mean remove "a1"?
[00:36] <reisio> what, not where
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> wonder if dpkg  can do a dpkg -i foo1  -r foo2 (well wait.. dpkg cant remove)
[00:36] <chrs_> reisio: oh sorry
[00:36] <chrs_> reisio: they are x drivers
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> chrs_:  whats the package names exactly?
[00:37] <jose> OerHeks: one of the oldest 64x
[00:37] <KM0201> chrs_: well, if you remove "a1".. and it says.. "these packages are no longer required"... that doesn't mean they are being removed... now if it says they're being removed... that's different
[00:37] <bluefox83> i wish there was a way to move those files faster via smb because it's saying it's gonna take over a day to move them all :(
[00:37] <reisio> bluefox83: use something else? :p
[00:38] <chrs_> libegl1-mesa is what i want to remove, chromium-mali-opengles is what i want to install
[00:38] <chrs_> naturally, a lot of packages depend on the mesa libraries
[00:38] <tgm4883> bluefox83, don't use wifi?
[00:38] <reisio> bluefox83: you're moving from one internal hard disk to another internal hard disk, over the network is that right?
[00:38] <basichash> How can i change tab space on vim?
[00:39] <zangaroo> how do i verify a .deb i have one the signing key and don't wish to add the repository ?
[00:39] <reisio> basichash: echo 'set ts=4 sw=4' >> ~/.vimrc
[00:39] <basichash> reisio: thanks
[00:40] <chrs_> KM0201: it says dpkg: dependency problems prevent the removal of libegl1-mesa
[00:40] <chrs_> then it doesn't remove the package
[00:40] <KM0201> well, there you go
[00:41] <yeehi> What is the maximum amount of traffic on the busiest Ubuntu mirrors at peak times? What is an average amount of traffic (up/down) for a busy server?
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> busiest.. is on release day. :) when they are so busy they are down.. ;P
[00:41] <reisio> more than a bread basket
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if they got extra servers they bring up for release day/week loads.. then  turn them off  when not needed
[00:42] <basichash> How do I save an open file in vim?
[00:42] <tgm4883> Dr_Willis, they repurpose build servers from LP
[00:42] <tgm4883> last I checked anyway
[00:43] <chrs_> KM0201: i guess i want to force remove the package and install my own package in its place
[00:43] <daftykins> basichash: escape, :wq, enter i think
[00:43] <chrs_> it should work since it provides the same libraries
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> !vim
[00:43] <Vinnie_win> wilee-nilee: I stumbled on this, it helped http://askubuntu.com/questions/113291/how-do-i-install-gcc-4-7
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> time to run vimtutor and learn some vim i think
[00:43] <KM0201> chrs_: i think that would be a bad idea... if it provided the same libraries, it wouldn't cause the error when you tried to install it.
[00:43] <basichash> daftykins: how do I do :wq? What is it?
[00:44] <daftykins> typing exactly that
[00:44] <basichash> daftykins: right, thanks
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> Vinnie_win, Just be aware PPA's are not supported here if you have a problem.
[00:44] <tood> 13.04 on laptop, dist-upgrade gives me 3.8.0-27 is this correct?
[00:44] <Vinnie_win> wilee-nilee: It seemed to work pretty well
[00:45] <Vinnie_win> wilee-nilee: My app built
[00:45] <chrs_> KM0201: http://pastebin.com/wTT1J8kt
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> cool
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> tood, dist-upgrade means what to you?
[00:46] <chrs_> the thing is i don't care about the mesa libs at all
[00:47] <crypticmofo>  hey all
[00:47] <tood> updates the kernel
[00:47] <crypticmofo> i can boot up after using the pendrive thanks .. but it keeps trying to check for a cdrom not my usb drive
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> tood, If you run it, it tells you waht is there.
[00:47] <crypticmofo> should i download a live ubuntu iso then boot form there ?
[00:48] <tood> the intewebs say the currant kernel is 3.8.0-28
[00:48] <holstein> crypticmofo: you made a live "pen drive"?
[00:48] <Ben64> tood: dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,           also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions           of packages
[00:48] <holstein> crypticmofo: what do you want to do?
[00:48] <Ben64> tood: it doesn't mean "kernel upgrade"
[00:48] <tood> ben64  yes
[00:49] <crypticmofo> holstein i need to install ubuntu .. i need to boot into ubuntu / parition the hdd then install ubuntu
[00:49] <holstein> crypticmofo: thats not how you install it
[00:49] <holstein> crypticmofo: you *dont* "boot in ubuntu partition" to install.. that specifically will not work
[00:49] <crypticmofo> holstein it has gparted right ?
[00:50] <tood> shoot, I did read apt-get man, buut did mis understand
[00:50] <holstein> crypticmofo: you would make installation media.. there is an iso.. you download the iso and either burn it to cd or make a bootable usb stick (i use unetbootin)
[00:50] <holstein> crypticmofo: gparted is in the repos.. and either is on the live installation media, or installable
[00:50] <bluefox83> reisio: i am moving from one internal hard drive on one machine, to another internal hard drive on another machine via wifi...
[00:50] <crypticmofo> holstein yes ubuntu is on my usb drive .. i can boot to it .. but when i get to the install part it looks for a cdrom not my usb drive and it fails
[00:50] <bluefox83> sorry it took so long to respond >.>
[00:51] <holstein> crypticmofo: what iso did you download? from where? and how did you make the stick?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> crypticmofo, Are you hitting the yes to unmount something when asked?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> if asked
[00:51] <crypticmofo> wilee-nilee i go to install / unitied states / keyboard  / then it says checking cdrom integrity / then it errors out
[00:52] <holstein> crypticmofo: what iso did you download? from where? and how did you make the stick?
[00:52] <bluefox83> crypticmofo: you might have a bad iso :/
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> crypticmofo, I would check the sum on the iso, and answer holstein
[00:52] <DanC_> since when does an `apt-date update` take 10 minutes? is it just my network, or is anybody else seeing this?
[00:52] <crypticmofo> ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-amd64
[00:52] <crypticmofo> ok one sec ok
[00:53] <holstein> crypticmofo: d you have 64bit hardware? do you want 12.04? how did you make the bootable stick?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> DanC_, YOU changed anything, like using a proxy...etc?
[00:53] <KM0201> or, it's having trouble contacting a 3rd party repo
[00:53] <KM0201> like a ppa
[00:53] <KM0201> you should be able to see where it's hanging up.
[00:53] <holstein> yup.. bad or old/slow sources can do that
[00:53] <DanC_> no... well, I've been changing some things since I saw the symptoms; e.g. trying different mirrors
[00:53] <bluefox83> i've read that the startup disk creator thingy in the latest 64bit ubuntu is broken >.>
[00:54] <Vinnie_win> Where do I install boost?
[00:54] <bluefox83> or it was, like a week ago
[00:54] <crypticmofo> holstein yes .. im on a lenova twist device its 64 bit windows 8 .. i downloaded the iso from a ubuntu website (im looking for it) i used universal usb installer to make it
[00:54] <Vinnie_win> How do I find out where my current boost is located?
[00:54] <holstein> Vinnie_win: what boost? what exactly are you trying to do?
[00:54] <DanC_> dpkg -L boost
[00:54] <holstein> crypticmofo: try unetbootin.. try confirming the iso download
[00:54] <DanC_> apt-cache policy boost # to see if it's installed at all
[00:54] <crypticmofo> holstein http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[00:54] <holstein> !md5 > crypticmofo
[00:54] <Vinnie_win> DanC_: Hmm its not installed
[00:54] <crypticmofo> holstein i tried unibutin it didn't working
[00:54] <DanC_> apt-cache search boost # to see if you got the name of the package right
[00:54] <crypticmofo> s/working/work/
[00:55] <holstein> crypticmofo: what youa re trying now, is not working
[00:55] <crypticmofo> ok let me mdf it
[00:55] <holstein> crypticmofo: the commmon thread is, the downloaded iso, your network.. the usb stick (potentially) and you
[00:55] <crypticmofo> mmd5*
[00:55] <Vinnie_win> DanC_: Yeah I got some of the libraries. I know i Have boost because I've been building my app with it. I would like to remove it, and reinstall the latest boost myself
[00:55]  * DanC_ presumes he means the boost c++ library http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boost_(C%2B%2B_libraries)
[00:56] <bluefox83> that's odd, i always think *I* am the problem first...then go on to the software, then the hardware...lol
[00:56] <Vinnie_win> DanC_: I updated my gcc using a ppa and now the prebuilt boost libraries are incompatible
[00:56] <DanC_> eek... you're way out there on the edge, Vinnie_win.
[00:56] <DanC_> what _are_ you trying to do?
[00:56] <bluefox83> Vinnie_win: that's why i try not to update libraries like that...
[00:57] <Vinnie_win> DanC_: First I want to remove all traces of the existing boost install. Then I want to reinstall boost on my own using the instructions on boost.org
[00:57] <DanC_> really? you want to play around with installing libraries? and then you'll be happy? no further goal?
[00:57] <Vinnie_win> DanC_: No more using ubuntu's package manager for the boost libraries..I need to do it myself, and build the libraries myself, so I can have different  versions installed for testing
[00:58] <crypticmofo> holstein cff39ccc589c7797aacce9efee7b5f93 *ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-amd64.iso is the same as http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[00:58] <crypticmofo> first line
[00:58] <holstein> Vinnie_win: build what you like.. and maintain it on your own.. the repo versions are officialy supported here..
[00:58] <holstein> Vinnie_win: i would probably consider virtualization for that
[00:58] <Vinnie_win> holstein: Sure. But how do I remove what is already installed?
[00:59] <Vinnie_win> holstein: I definitely used the package manager to get boost in there in the first place. I dont recall building it myself
[00:59] <DanC_> apt-get remove libboost-dev #or the like; use apt-cache search or dpkg -l to find the name
[00:59] <Vinnie_win> Danc_: Ah yes! libboost-dev that is definitely ringing a bell
[01:00] <holstein> crypticmofo: ok.. you dont need to share that here.. you can just test that on your own, and confirm it.. then move on.. try a different USB stick.. try the same stick on different hardware.. make the stick with unetbootin *after* manually reformatting it
[01:00] <DanC_> might I recommend checkinstall to package up the results when you build it yourself, Vinnie_win
[01:00] <holstein> crypticmofo: i assure you.. the iso's work.. and i use them routinely.. what *specific* issue did you have with unetbootin?
[01:00] <Vinnie_win> danc_: Not sure what you mean by package up the results
[01:00] <francisco_> hi
[01:00] <francisco_> :D
[01:01] <DanC_> nobody else is seeing `apt-get update` take 15 minutes? (and counting...)
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> DanC_, Have you checked you net speed?
[01:01] <holstein> DanC_: no.. and as i (and other suggested( that can be due to slow sources.. did you add PPA's?
[01:01] <crypticmofo> holstein first things first im going to parition my hard drive and start over ok
[01:01] <DanC_> heh... I *just* typed speedtest.net into my browser as you wrote that, wilee-nilee
[01:02] <DanC_> and yes, I've added PPAs here and there. any clues on telling which one is slow?
[01:02] <holstein> crypticmofo: do what you like.. i use a gparted live CD.. if you cant boot live CD's, you might have issues in generall doing maintenance like that
[01:02] <holstein> DanC_: i usually disable them *all*, run the updated command.. and add them back
[01:02] <Vinnie_win> danc_: Could you give me a clue to where in the file system I should extract the boost_1_54 directory? Would it normally go in /usr/local/ or something?
[01:02] <holstein> DanC_: one at a time..
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> DanC_, did you check that all the ppa's have releases for your release?
[01:03] <crypticmofo> holstein there is a option on the gparted webpage to use the usbliveuniveral thing to make it boot
[01:03] <holstein> crypticmofo: i use unetbootin.. use what is working, which right now, is nothing for you
[01:03] <DanC_> Vinnie_win, well, now there you're getting off-topic for this channel. I'd bet there's a #boost channel not far from here.
[01:03] <crypticmofo> ok thanks br
[01:03] <crypticmofo> b
[01:03] <holstein> crypticmofo: try taking the stick you make to another machine. try another stick.. try another iso..
[01:04] <crypticmofo> i will
[01:04] <DanC_> 0.34Mbps download speed. :-{{{{
[01:05] <DanC_> 0.24 that is
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> DanC_, Reboot the router
[01:06] <DanC_> not a bad idea
[01:06]  * DanC_ wonders why people put up with this.
[01:06] <DanC_> can you imagine if you had to turn your fridge off and on every other week?
[01:06] <KM0201> DanC_: i never have to reboot my router
[01:08] <francisco_> ._.
[01:08] <daftykins> O_O
[01:08] <c2tarun> Hi friends, when I resume my laptop from Sleep mode, Ubuntu is not able to increase brightness of laptop. Its brightness is so low after resuming that I can barely see anything. So everytime I resume I have to increase brightness manually. Is there any fix to this problem?
[01:09] <bluefox83> i just made some changes to my smb.conf how do i get samba to start reading the new smb.conf?
[01:10] <somsip> bluefox83: sudo service smbd restart
[01:10] <stirnwer> c2tarun, screen settings? should be possible to adjust that
[01:10] <bluefox83> somsip: wont that just restart it? i thought you had to do somethign to get it to rehash it or something?
[01:11] <c2tarun> stirnwer, sorry, I am not able to understand, can you please rephrase
[01:11] <somsip> bluefox83: I've not had to do that before but I suppose it might depend on what you changed
[01:11] <vlad24bit> there is a maximum brightness usually configurable in your video cards utility menu
[01:12] <vlad24bit> do you have intel? ati? nvidia?
[01:12] <vlad24bit> I know ati and nvidia have one
[01:14] <MrHotsauce> anyone have any experience with dd-wrt firwmare and xubuntu when the router is set in repeater mode? (all my devices except my xubuntu laptop will connect to my bridge wireless)
[01:14] <bluefox83> i really hate my router >.>
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> !tmi | bluefox83
[01:15] <bluefox83> what?
[01:15] <bluefox83> O.o
[01:16] <pepper_chico> I love mine, researched it before the buy, replaced all antennas by now
[01:16] <KM0201> that you hate your router.. :)
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> bluefox83, This is support I notice you are just making comments many of which have b=no evidens, like a "I read that" for example.
[01:16] <bluefox83> oh, well mine is a wrt54g that's like, 8 years old or something...it's super slow...
[01:16] <reisio> bluefox83: both desktops?
[01:16] <bluefox83> reisio: eh, a laptop and a desktop
[01:17] <reisio> ah
[01:17] <vlad24bit> I get a good 100mbps on my at&t router
[01:17] <reisio> still, you could probably take the drive out of the source box, and hook it up to the destination box
[01:17] <pepper_chico> mine is a TP-Link TL-WR1043ND
[01:17] <reisio> and increase transfer time massively
[01:17] <bluefox83> wilee-nilee: the router comment was really because dispite adding some new stuff to smb.conf to speed things up...my router is bottlenecking my speeds rediculously
[01:17] <reisio> erm, decrease :)
[01:17] <reisio> increase transfer time _efficiency_, heh
[01:18] <vlad24bit> which is funny cause the damn thing and most routers are suppose to get 10 times that
[01:18] <bluefox83> reisio: i wish i had the stuff to do that...buuuut i don't D:
[01:18] <reisio> a lot only get their boasted speeds with inferior security configurations
[01:18] <reisio> bluefox83: what stuff are you lacking?
[01:19] <bluefox83> cabling?
[01:19] <reisio> bluefox83: no you already have cables
[01:19] <reisio> that's how your computers connect to the drives they're using right now
[01:19] <bluefox83> O.o
[01:19] <reisio> with cables
[01:19] <bluefox83> how am i connecting a laptop hard drive to a desktop, or vise-versa?
[01:19] <reisio> just take it out of one and put it into another
[01:20] <bluefox83> there are no cables in my laptop...it just sits there >.>
[01:20] <reisio> then it's just up to your desktop
[01:20] <reisio> how many drives does it have?
[01:20] <bluefox83> and, there's no way to hook that drive into my desktop...
[01:20] <reisio> sure there is
[01:20] <bluefox83> 2 currently...
[01:21] <reisio> perfect, then you have at least one spare cable
[01:21] <reisio> which is all you need
[01:21] <bluefox83> dude, i'm tellin ya, there is no compatible cable in that desktop to hook that hard drive in there!
[01:21] <reisio> why? One is PATA and one is SATA?
[01:21] <bluefox83> there's an IDE and an SATA...none of them will hook to this drive :(
[01:22] <reisio> your laptop uses neither IDE or SATA?
[01:22] <reisio> that's hard to believe
[01:22] <bluefox83> it just kinda sits on a little connector...i dunno which it woudl be
[01:22] <bluefox83> *would
[01:22] <vlad24bit> funkgle
[01:22] <reisio> well, it's almost certainly one or the other :)
[01:22] <bluefox83> i'm really not taking the hard drive out to do that anyways >.>
[01:22] <reisio> if your desktop handles both, it doesn't matter which it is
[01:22] <reisio> why not? :p
[01:22] <reisio> it'll save you hours and hours
[01:23] <bluefox83> cus i have to be in bed in like half an hour...
[01:23] <reisio> well it doesn't take 30 minutes to plug a cable into a drive... :)
[01:23] <reisio> but suit yourself
[01:23] <bluefox83> no, it'll take me that long to get teh case off...LOL
[01:23] <bluefox83> *the
[01:23] <reisio> ooooh
[01:23] <reisio> okay
[01:23] <reisio> something to think about next time, then
[01:24] <bluefox83> the door to that stupid case is crazy
[01:24] <DanC_> this is getting bad. after rebooting router and cablemodem, download speed was measured at 0.17 Mbps. Now I'm struggling to load speedtest.net at all.
[01:24] <vlad24bit> it takes 20min to transfer 100GB for me, you better hurry if the drive isn't even connected
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> they got those Universial-to-usb adators.. ;)
[01:24] <bluefox83> Dr_Willis: i don't have one :(
[01:25] <bluefox83> i'd freakin kill for something to make my 1tb work on my laptop, i'd have solved this crap hours ago >.>
[01:26] <vlad24bit> you need a hd encloser that supports the drive, you can buy them oniline
[01:26] <bluefox83> man...i'm gonna need to rebuild my plexmediaserver again >.>
[01:26] <reisio> you don't need an enclosure if you have a tower
[01:26] <vlad24bit> then just plug in usb usually 3.0
[01:26] <reisio> those... are enclosures
[01:26] <bluefox83> yeah...i don't have one of those either (or the money)
[01:26] <bluefox83> reisio: i
[01:26] <vlad24bit> light a match and run
[01:26] <reisio> why can't you use your 1tb on your laptop?
[01:27] <bluefox83> ve recently discovered that my primary partition is also messed up and needs a fsck :(
[01:27] <bluefox83> uhm...because i don't have a hookup for it...lol
[01:27] <reisio> it's just a bare internal drive?
[01:28] <bluefox83> internal desktop hard drives wont fit in laptops, so you need an enclosure...
[01:28] <reisio> mmm, you could use your desktop :)
[01:28] <reisio> but you said you don't have the time or something now :)
[01:28]  * bluefox83 facepalms
[01:28] <bluefox83> right
[01:28] <JavaCrash7> huft...
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> just use the powers of your mind...
[01:28] <bluefox83> i totally have a spare laptop hard drive >.>
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[01:28] <reisio> if it's not done when you wake, probably should go ahead
[01:29] <bonelabs>  /exit
[01:29] <bluefox83> dang, i was hoping this laptop had a second spot for another hard drive...
[01:30] <bluefox83> my last one did...but that laptop got fried >.>
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> I had a laptop that had 2 HD slots..  came in handy.
[01:30] <reisio> enclosures are like $20 :)
[01:30] <reisio> but unless you have eSATA, it'll still be slower than taking the drive out and hooking it up directly
[01:30] <bluefox83> i'll keep that in mind the next time i'm not hundreds of dollars in debt lol
[01:31] <reisio> mmm, well, watching data copy isn't going to help you get out of debt
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-USB-SATA-Cable-Adapter/dp/B001OORN06/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1376875842&sr=8-11&keywords=usb+hd+adaptor   $7
[01:31] <reisio> :D
[01:31] <bluefox83> pushin 840+kbps now :)
[01:31] <kimsia> i jallo
[01:31] <kimsia> hi there
[01:31] <kimsia> I just typed apt-get update
[01:31] <kimsia> and now i am getting a long list of EDAC i7core: Lost 127 memory errors
[01:31] <bluefox83> O.o
[01:31] <kimsia> The list has kept running for the past 5 minutes
[01:32] <kimsia> What is happenning?
[01:32] <bluefox83> so the speed just keeps going up and up and up...that's totally awesome >.>
[01:33] <bluefox83> it's heading towards 1mbps >.>
[01:35] <bluefox83> ok, i need to shower...then go to bed. Thanks for the ideas and convo folks. you've been a huge help :)
[01:35] <reisio> 1mbps vs 1.5-6gbit/s :p
[01:36] <bluefox83> it's at 1.1mbps
[01:36] <bluefox83> and climbing
[01:39] <OerHeks> kimsia, looks like you are answered > http://askubuntu.com/questions/334328/typed-apt-get-update-now-showing-a-long-list-of-edac-errors-is-there-anything
[01:45] <kimsia> OerHeks: thanks for alerting me
[01:59] <Agamemnus> ok, i'm trying another approach
[01:59] <Agamemnus> i'll compile directly on centos
[01:59] <Agamemnus> but i don't know how to download files from a url on centos
[01:59] <Agamemnus> how can I do that?
[02:00] <holstein> Agamemnus: i would ask in a centos support channel.. this is the ubuntu support channel.. wget is what i would use in the commandline
[02:00] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, probably wget
[02:00] <Gerowen> So for anybody who was here earlier when I was having issues with my installer hanging, it was the NVidia stand alone video card.  It had an old NVidia GeForce FX 5500 in it, so I took it out and used the on-board card, and it booted the installer just fine.
[02:00] <Agamemnus> damnit
[02:00] <Agamemnus> i'm so tired
[02:01] <Agamemnus> i wanted to go to centos
[02:01] <Agamemnus> sorry
[02:01] <holstein> !languabe
[02:01] <holstein> !language
[02:01] <Agamemnus> dangnabit.
[02:01] <holstein> Agamemnus: :)
[02:01] <pvl1> i cant seem to get the nvidia module to load
[02:01] <pvl1> i think
[02:02] <holstein> !nvidia
[02:03] <holstein> pvl1: shouldnt need to do much special other than install the package, if the hardware is supported
[02:03] <pvl1> holstein: i downloaded it from their website, and ran the installed in recovery
[02:04] <holstein> pvl1: ideally "they" provide support for "their" packages.. but, there should be references on the link i gave.. i usually try the repo one first
[02:05] <m4yh3m> does anybody play halo on ubuntu? i'm trying to use a tool halothirdfov is to remove the fov and get thirdperson view..
[02:06] <holstein> m4yh3m: in wine?
[02:06] <m4yh3m> it's halo 2 Custom edition..
[02:07] <m4yh3m> holstein, i can play the game but the this tool halothirdfov doesn't run
[02:07] <holstein> m4yh3m: in wine? are you using wine? is it a windows game that you are using wine to run?
[02:07] <m4yh3m> holstein, i'm using wine.. i was able to play halo fine..
[02:08] <m4yh3m> but i want to run that tool.. halothirdfov.. that one is not running
[02:08] <holstein> m4yh3m: i would ask in a wine channel.. typically, when i am "forced" to run unsupported software in wine, im pretty happy with what does work
[02:08] <m4yh3m> is the a wine channel? o.O
[02:09] <holstein> m4yh3m: ideally, the game devs tell you how you are intended to run it on linux.. since that will me "you are not intended to run it in linux", you try asking someone using wine.. and i would try the wine channel
[02:09] <m4yh3m> i will try to find the wine channel :P
[02:09] <m4yh3m> thank you holstein
[02:10] <holstein> m4yh3m: #winehq AFAIK
[02:10] <m4yh3m> holstein, just found it :P thanks
[02:14] <pvl1> i installed ubuntu gnome on a laptop today, and i noticed the laptop is getting really really hot. what could be the cause
[02:15] <holstein> pvl1: graphics driver support.. gnome/unity use 3d desktops. you can try using something like xfce or try a different graphics drive
[02:16] <holstein> driver*
[02:17] <ikonia> probably power management support issues
[02:18] <crypticmofo> holstein: you around still ?
[02:18] <crypticmofo> or anyone
[02:19] <crypticmofo> holstein:  so .. i partiioned my hdd right .. i botted up to ubuntu im at the ubuntu installer memu
[02:19] <crypticmofo> its a load load insaller componets from cd
[02:19] <crypticmofo> but it keeps looking for a cd-rom drive i don't have it / i booted with ubuntu from usb
[02:20] <crypticmofo> can i fake or make it seems like there is a cdrom installed or something ?
[02:20] <crypticmofo> it lets me excute a shell
[02:20] <pvl1> holstein: good thing i installed i3 on it. the graphics issue is seperate from what i mentioned earlier
[02:20] <holstein> crypticmofo: the desktop iso... i use unetbootin .. i format the stick, i make the stick.. then i instal.. no errors
[02:20] <holstein> crypticmofo: i have seen that issue when trying to use an alternate iso a few releases back
[02:20] <crypticmofo> oh ok
[02:21] <holstein> crypticmofo: i would try different things, friend... try unetbootin after formatting.. try different isos.. try different sticks.. try that stick on a different maching
[02:21] <holstein> machine*
[02:21] <holstein> crypticmofo: boot to the live desktop...
[02:21] <orlandorvs> hello
[02:22] <crypticmofo> holstein:  there is no live desktop at boot just says install ubuntu
[02:22] <crypticmofo> i will download a new iso
[02:22] <orlandorvs> someone heipme? can not  sync my ipod on ubuntu 13.4
[02:23] <user987654> hello
[02:23] <user987654> i am new
[02:23] <DigitalIceCream> Welcome
[02:23] <user987654> anyone can help me with grub config?
[02:23] <user987654> please I just installed ubuntu
[02:23] <user987654> I am an initiated >D
[02:24] <holstein> crypticmofo: then, you dont have the live desktop iso, and you should
[02:24] <DigitalIceCream> What do you want to do with grub?
[02:24] <holstein> !ipod
[02:24] <holstein> orlandorvs: ^
[02:24] <user987654> I had an hdd with Win7
[02:24] <DigitalIceCream> !help
[02:24] <user987654> then I disconnected it and installed Ubuntu in a second hdd
[02:24] <user987654> now I connected both
[02:24] <user987654> hdds
[02:25] <user987654> I want to boot from the grub to the system I choose... but I can't get this... I have to move the sata connector every time I want to change system
[02:26] <orlandorvs> thanks
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> user987654, Put the HD with ubuntu as first read in the bios.
[02:29] <user987654> Ok
[02:29] <user987654> I can do that
[02:29] <user987654> how can I add windows, which is in the 2nd hdd to the grub menu?
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> user987654, If it boots ubuntu open a terminal and run sudo update-grub and that should add windows to the grub menu.
[02:30] <user987654> OK
[02:30] <user987654> thanks for all
[02:30] <user987654> >D
[02:30] <user987654> i am going to test it
[02:30] <FloodBot1> user987654: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:34] <vaskaloidis> Hey I am getting a Nagios error 127 - plugins may be missing error, anyone know how to fix it
[02:41] <msq> ..
[02:42] <bazhang> vaskaloidis, try #nagios
[02:42] <msq> ./admin
[02:46] <msq> hello
[02:46] <stirnwer> hi
[02:47] <xavious> Looking for some help removing programs, specifically that of WINE.
[02:48] <lafannga> hello people
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> xavious, try #winehq maybe
[02:49] <xavious> ;wilee-nille thanks, will do
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> xavious, You can tab complete nicks.
[02:57] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: any chance u have exp with nvidia on ubuntu
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> nope
[02:58] <pvl1> the official drivers
[02:58] <pvl1> aw
[02:58] <pvl1> well
[02:58] <pvl1> more importantly
[02:58] <pvl1> i installed ubuntu gnome on a laptop, and its getting really hot
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> !enter | pvl1 more importantly
[02:58] <pvl1> holstein: recommends a different window manager
[02:58] <chrs_> anyone have experience with xorg.conf? i'm trying to get some opengl es drivers loaded into Xorg
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:59] <pvl1> lol good one wilee-nilee
[02:59] <chrs_> i have the libraries on my filesystem, but i'm confused on how to get the X to pick them up and load them
[02:59] <pvl1> hm brb i need a reboot
[02:59] <chrs_> my guess is it has something to do with the "Modules" section of the conf file
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> details | chrs_ to the channel
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> !details | chrs_ to the channel
[03:01] <pvl1> back
[03:01] <Agamemnus> hello
[03:02] <Agamemnus> again.
[03:02] <chrs_> I have a problem loading ARM Mali OpenGL ES drivers into my Xorg server. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 armhf. When i startx, the log file doesn't say anything about loading the opengl es (egl) driver even though I have the library files in /usr/lib/ and another obvious locations.
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> chrs_, Been awhile since you posted what you were working on just refresh your info is all.
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> Doh you just did cool
[03:03] <chrs_> i'm actually running "Xubuntu"
[03:03] <chrs_> if that matters
[03:03] <chrs_> it's just xfce instead of Unity/compiz
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> chrs_, I can't help but others may.
[03:03] <chrs_> wilee-nilee: no prob
[03:03] <Agamemnus> so, glibc. 2.12.
[03:03] <Agamemnus> i need to convert all my libs to use it
[03:04] <Agamemnus> should i just downgrade ubuntu?
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> Agamemnus, The term downgrade meaning?
[03:04] <bazhang> Agamemnus, why would you need that version
[03:05] <reisio> generally if you find yourself asking the question "should I downgrade?", you are doing it wrong :)
[03:05] <Agamemnus> So I can run my programs on centOS
[03:05] <Agamemnus> which only runs 2.12
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> Agamemnus, This is ubuntu support only
[03:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello. Just got a dell latitude xt2, installex xubuntu 13.04 on it, looking to update my i915 module to use newer versions, as the current only uses glx 1.4, and that is simply not acceptable :P
[03:05] <Agamemnus> I know
[03:06] <bazhang> Agamemnus, #centos
[03:06] <Agamemnus> I am talking about centos
[03:06] <Agamemnus> god.......
[03:06] <Agamemnus> I am talking about ubuntu
[03:06] <bazhang> Agamemnus, wrong channel
[03:06] <Agamemnus> UBUNTU
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  intel has some website/script to help with installing the latest intel drivers.
[03:06] <bazhang> !enter | Agamemnus
[03:06] <Agamemnus> I need to use glibc 2.12
[03:07] <bazhang> Agamemnus, why
[03:07] <Agamemnus> i just told you.
[03:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: info?
[03:07] <vlad24bit> bufo: where youd get upty
[03:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> bazhang: he's working on ubuntu, but wants it to work on centOS.
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777: id have to hit google to find it.. i just recall seeing it mentioned once at a blog site
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  has some weird name. :) is about i recall . ve never used the tools there
[03:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> dang.
[03:08] <balorth> hello
[03:08] <Agamemnus> otherwise I'd need to create a VM in centos which runs ubuntu, and this is completely impossible
[03:08] <Agamemnus> for me, at least.
[03:08] <crypticmofo> holstein:  i goet a netinstall mini iso and its installing
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  should be a easy google search. ;) im  got other stuff going on. so im slow on the networks right now
[03:09] <balorth> can someone help me with chntpw?
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/intel-release-graphical-installer-for-their-linux-drivers
[03:09] <vlad24bit> does virtual box have opengl accelleration say if I was running a vm suse on top of ubuntu
[03:09] <reisio> balorth: what about it?
[03:09] <reisio> vlad24bit: ask #vbox about it
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  01.org  ;) what a weird name for intel to use.
[03:10] <reisio> finally a graphical way to install what package managers have always done quickly and efficiently before!
[03:10] <balorth> new with ubuntu need to install it on 11.10
[03:10] <vlad24bit> reisio : thx
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> balorth, why 11.10
[03:11] <bazhang> balorth, 11.10 is out of support
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  been updated  it seems -> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.2
[03:11] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | balorth
[03:11] <balorth> its what i had put on the flashdrive heh
[03:11] <bazhang> balorth, upgrade to a supported version
[03:12] <balorth> i will be back with a new version
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: thankyah
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  no idea how well they work. I dont use them
[03:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> meh, its a fresh install, so I don't mind experimenting. I have no stake in it yet :P
[03:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: coolest thing I've done on it as of yet is finally getting bitlbee to work with skype :P
[03:17] <balorth> so what version should i use for chntpw?
[03:18] <Ben64> balorth: you should just use a linux image that has that in it if thats all you need
[03:18] <balorth> well that would be helpfull
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> balorth, What is it you are doing, whats the end goal here?
[03:18] <balorth> i need to rest y fathers password on windows 7
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> balorth, You might ask in ##windows for a method more common.
[03:19] <ikonia> balorth: windows 7 has a password reset process, you don't do that through linux
[03:20] <balorth> well searching and this was the best thing i could find
[03:20] <ikonia> balorth: it's not
[03:20] <reisio> balorth: what's the problem?
[03:20] <ikonia> balorth: follow the windows password reset process
[03:20] <ikonia> balorth: there is no need to use linux to "reset" your dads password
[03:21] <balorth> well he doent have any reset disk
[03:21] <ikonia> balorth: he can get one from microsoft it that is needed
[03:21] <ikonia> balorth: the guys in ##windows can walk you through a password reset
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> theres those system-rescue live cd's saw on distro watch that can do it also i belove.
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> belive
[03:22] <rjknight1> I can't download apt-proxy.
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[03:22] <reisio> Dr_Willis: yup
[03:24] <reisio> balorth: http://is.gd/acitex I've had more success with the 'old version' of the installer, fwiw
[03:33] <U237Willy> Question:  Are there other themes available for ubuntu 13.04 and unity
[03:33] <U237Willy> if so... where?
[03:34] <bazhang> U237Willy, try gnome-look.org
[03:35] <themanwithnoface> guys there's a 6 GB file called ".swl"  in my home folder.. idk what it is.. and i think it's from installing a steam demo... can i delete it?  or more info...?
[03:35] <PKKid2> Hey All, I am trying to move my Postgres data directory to a new location, but my Postgres Server will not start with the new data_directory.. All I get is  Error: could not exec /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/pg_ctl /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/pg_ctl start -D /media/HDD/Postgres/main -l /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-9.1-main.log -s -o  -c config_file="/etc/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf" :
[03:36] <U237Willy> thanks bazhang -- will do
[03:36] <ikonia> PKKid2: haven't we gone through this before ?
[03:36] <ikonia> PKKid2: it's apparmor stopping it as I recall
[03:37] <PKKid2> ikonia, We (as in me and you) have not talked about this before.. This is my first time asking for help in here for about a year now. :/
[03:38] <ikonia> PKKid2: perhaps it was someone else, however the problem was apparmor
[03:38] <ikonia> PKKid2: I suspect you have the same problem
[03:39] <PKKid2> ikonia, I did a quick search on apt and I *do* have that package installed.  Thought I have never heard of this before.  Is removing it a bad idea?
[03:43] <PKKid2> ikonia, THanks for this, looking into it now.. this could be it although I dont see a postgres entry in my apparmor config dirs
[03:49] <themanwithnoface> new to ubuntu, i think after installing a steam demo i have a useless 6GB  file called ".swl"  in my home folder, or is that not useless..
[03:49] <themanwithnoface> what is it?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> themanwithnoface:  try 'file thefilename.swl' and see what it says
[03:49] <holstein> !steam
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> id just delete it. ;) but im reckless
[03:50] <themanwithnoface> ooh... it says ".swl: Vim swap file, version 7.3"   ...damn... why is it 6GB ?? go to #vim?   ;\
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> could be file is confused also.  and miss-identifying it
[03:52] <themanwithnoface> no i mean if i wrongly closed vim while editing a bunch of times, could it become 6GB ???   so i'll just back up my vimrc and delete it?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> .vimrc is not the same as a vim swap file
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> i wouldent think it would become 6gb. unless you were doing some hard core editing
[03:54] <themanwithnoface> Dr_Willis:  i was messing with my appSwitcher.js  files in cinnamon...  like a lot.. lol  to tweak the GUI...  a swap file is like a small back up right?
[03:55] <themanwithnoface> i mean my home is SMALL all there is is eclipse.. and like.. i'm new to ubuntu and all..  i want to delete but..  :<
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> i would think its like a memory swap file.. since vi also has 'backup' featires
[03:56] <themanwithnoface> yeah and my vimrc doesnt have the whole quick and efficient saving/writing/redraw stuff in it
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> can the useradd gui be removed as package?
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> and a vim swap file (from what i googled) starts with a . and ends with swp
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> so its very likely that file is just missnamed, or getting missientified
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> rename it to 'delte-me-later.whatever'   ;) and see if anything breaks
[03:58] <themanwithnoface> ok i did
[03:58] <themanwithnoface> now i'm sudo apt-get updating
[04:00] <themanwithnoface> successful update...  Dr_Willis  what else can i do to test if it was anything?  i mean.. my gui is fine.. still on smuxi IRC..  any terminal commands?
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> id just delet the thing. It may be some left over steam cache
[04:02] <somsip> themanwithnoface: open vim and make sure it doesn't complain, but I've not come across problems with things like this before
[04:03] <somsip> themanwithnoface: make sure steam still works ok, but again, very unlikely to complain
[04:05] <themanwithnoface> k, deleted it. updated..  vim is running fine.. saved wrote and compiled a file in vim..  don't care about steam, too poor for gaming, and laptop too sucky for TF2...
[04:05] <somsip> themanwithnoface: sounds safe enough then
[04:06] <themanwithnoface> whoopee! nowi i can back up my home folder  thanks guys. lol
[04:06] <themanwithnoface> gonna reboot i guess that'll be the true test
[04:08] <apatters> join #linux
[04:11] <phyzix5761> hey guys, when I start typing a name of a program in the dash home box it doesn't show any programs. How do I reset it? I must have touched something.
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> theres filter buttons to the right hand side
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> Filter Results...
[04:13] <phyzix5761> hmmm Dr_Willis  I dont see any filter buttons
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> what ubujntu release are you using?
[04:14] <phyzix5761> 12.04
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> they have constantly updated that 'area' with each new release.  I forget how 12.04 had it.. or even if it did.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 has a Very nice set of controls now to filter out stuff. ;)
[04:14] <phyzix5761> its so weird cause I search for any program but none come up
[04:15] <phyzix5761> it was working fine a few days ago
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> see if it works for a newly made user. if so.. then its a user setting issue
[04:17] <phyzix5761> well, Dr_Willis is there a way to upgrade without having to install from disk and lose all my data?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> if a new user has same issue. its a system type setting/problem
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> all what data?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> I upgrade and dont use data.  ;)
[04:17] <phyzix5761> the files on my computer
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> thats the point of a 'upgrade' vs a 'clean install'
[04:17] <phyzix5761> oh, how do I update then?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> Update is differnt then a 'upgrade'
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> what are you wanting to do exctly
[04:18] <phyzix5761> I just want to find my programs
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> i dont see how a 'update, or upgrade' would   be  part of the answer.. unless you just want to try things at random to see if it suddendly starts working. ;)
[04:19] <GBGames> I recently purchased a Dell XPS 8700 with an Nvidia graphics card in it. I installed Ubuntu 12.04, and I was using it shortly after I updated it, along with installing the proprietary nvidia drivers. It seemed to be working fine, and then I noticed that it was frozen while running VirtualBox. Upon reboot, I can't get it past the splash screen, and when I googled for an answer, nothing seemed to apply that I could see, but maybe I'm missing
[04:19] <GBGames>  something.
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> id test with a Newly made user. see if the issue also affects them
[04:19] <GBGames> Any help would be appreciated.
[04:19] <phyzix5761> ok I will try that Dr_Willis thanks
[04:19] <chiques> I don't open emails or URLs' that I don't recognize. Should I be concerned about "Hand of Thief"?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> if the new user works.. then clean out the problem users settings/reset unity
[04:19] <somsip> chiques: not especially
[04:20] <chiques> somsip, so why is it getting so much hype?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> chiques:  id  be amazed at http://askubuntu.com/questions/330911/hand-of-thief-malware
[04:20] <somsip> chiques: because it's the 'first' linux trojan openly for sale
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> its a slow news week? ;)
[04:20] <somsip> Dr_Willis: good link
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> GBGames, the proprietary drivers generally don't follow kernel upgrades and are advised not to use, unless that is all that works or you know how to deal with this.
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> first google hit ;)
[04:21] <somsip> Dr_Willis: heh
[04:21] <GBGames> wilee-nilee: Ok, so how do I revert back to noveau?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Hand of Thief has no good ways of infecting Linux users. Instead, the cracker "suggested using email and social engineering as the infection vector."
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> GBGames, No idea all I know is what I stated, others do though. ;)
[04:22] <chiques> Dr_Willis, somsip how does the community/developers handle this sort of deal? Would they test it and patch the vulnerabilities?
[04:22] <GBGames> wilee-nilee: Ok, thanks.
[04:22] <GBGames> B-)
[04:22] <somsip> chiques: there is no patch for user gullibility
[04:22] <chiques> lmao
[04:22] <chiques> ok
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> chiques:  seems you basically have to 'ok it to run' or somthing. :) still reading
[04:22] <somsip> chiques: blase answer - I don't know the ins and outs of how it works. Good info on the link from Dr_Willis
[04:22] <GBGames> A lot of answers online assume that I can get something loaded, but if I get to the splash screen, I can't switch to a terminal. I have to make sure I hit Esc before it gets that far.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if the guy 'selling'  the 'Hand of thief' is actually just ripping off the people that would buy malware :P
[04:23] <somsip> Dr_Willis: maybe the installer has malware installed in it. Malception...
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> somsip:  from what im reading its not actually been looked at (the code/whatever) its just someone seems to be 'selling' it and claimingit works..
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> but i cant really seem to find any 'hard' info on it
[04:25] <somsip> Dr_Willis: I shall not be too concerned then
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> nvidia
[04:25] <chiques> Dr_Willis, I would presume the Linux Developer Guru's are all over this but I haven't found any literature confirming this.
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> !nvidia
[04:25] <phyzix5761> hey Dr_Willis it works now. I removed and reinstalled unity-lens-applications and unity-lens-files
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> GBGames, YOu might look here^^^
[04:26] <GBGames> wilee-nilee: Thanks
[04:29] <chiques> Who are RSA Researchers?
[04:32] <TannedVampire> I have peppermint which is derived from lubuntu.  I was trying to get rid off peppermint logout session and use only "shutdown".  I could not get it working.  I already followed ubuntu instruction but failed to see results.
[04:32] <TannedVampire> I tried /etc/acpi/events/powerbutton.sh
[04:34] <grendal-prime> hey i was talking the other night here to this fine chap, that helped me out of a bind with a filer...and i cant rememeber what we did ...is there a log i can pick at ?
[04:35] <chiques> Dr_Willis, somsip It looks like they (Ubuntu Developers) are monitoring "Hand of Thief" . I hope they are able to patch it up soon.
[04:37] <thunder1212> i need to reinstall my ubuntu os on my laptop.. and i have installed many extra software earlier. i dont want to re download those extra PAckages again .. how can i backup the extra downloaded packages..?
[04:42] <thunder1212> ??
[04:46] <crypticmofo> hi all question
[04:46] <crypticmofo> i have one of those lenov twist laptops that use efi right / i disabled al that installed ubuntu to /dev/sda4 and i told it to put grub on it / i boot up my machine and windows till pops up / i know it means still has a boot flag
[04:46] <crypticmofo> how do i change this ?
[04:48] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[04:48] <ShapeShifter499> zram or zswap? which is better?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> chiques:  patch would be 'telling the users  to not run some executable/script they get in an email' from what im reading. ;)
[04:48] <crypticmofo> is there a command line to boot ubuntu that is on /dev/sda4
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> thunder1212:  your apt cache MAY have some of the packages. that will save some downloading. but i doubt if it has them all
[04:48] <crypticmofo> the options i have at ubuntu instaler are install / command-line install / advanced options
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  so you lost your grub menu? and need to replace it?  or what happaned
[04:49] <GBGames> Is there any log that I can check that explains why LightDM says it is running but nothing is happening?
[04:50] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis:  so windows is the main os right i paritioned windows to like a 100gig primary parition /dev/sda4 / once the install was done it said to install grub .. i said yes .. when i boot back up i don't see grub i see windows
[04:50] <ShapeShifter499> I'm finding I'm bumping up the 4gb limit my current laptop has a lot, I read zram and zswap could help but which one would be faster?
[04:50] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: don't cross post
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  i would follow the directions at the 'fixgrub' factoid. and use the boot-repair tool to repair grub from a live cd.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | crypticmofo
[04:52] <crypticmofo> dont' have a live cd
[04:52] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis:  i used a usb / net install
[04:52] <ShapeShifter499> reisio, as I say.... covering multiple related channels is a bad thing?
[04:52] <caf4926> crypticmofo: just make sure grub is going to sda
[04:52] <ShapeShifter499> *ask
[04:52] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: it's considered bad etiquette, yes
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:   theres cli ways to reinstall grub. but i havent done thatin ages.. boot-repair makes it trivial most of the time
[04:53] <caf4926> crypticmofo: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10573557/Ubuntu/13_04/5.png
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  if you can get a minimal system booted, with a console command line, you can chroot in and try fixing grub.
[04:53] <caf4926> crypticmofo: you can just boot the live cd and chroot the system
[04:53] <crypticmofo> can't i just put gparted back on the usb drive / boot it up and put a boot flag on /sda4 ?
[04:54] <reisio> boot flags are pretty much entirely irrelevant :)
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> why do you think the boot flag matters? Im not even sure grub pays attention to them
[04:54] <ShapeShifter499> reisio, it's not like I'm posting in every ubuntu channel I can and it's not like I'm posting the question in #debian when I clearly run ubuntu
[04:54] <crypticmofo> cf	 the live usb isn't live i only have 4 optoins / install / command-line install / advnced optoins / help
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  try alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 and see if theres a console on one of them
[04:54] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: nope, it's more like you're posting in more than one channel excluding #debian (potentially)
[04:55] <crypticmofo> i have a shell
[04:55] <caf4926> crypticmofo: install again will take, what 10 mins, then just check that image I gave you
[04:55] <ShapeShifter499> meh... whatever :p
[04:56] <ShapeShifter499> reisio, so when ppl in #ubuntu don't help, what do I do then?
[04:56] <crypticmofo> it was a netinstall took like a hour or so
[04:56] <crypticmofo> slow wifi
[04:56] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: ask other people
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> i would think it would hae been better to not do a net-install over wifi/slow connections ;) but use a normal live-cd/usb method.
[04:57] <caf4926> +1 Dr_Willis
[04:57] <crypticmofo> yes
[04:58] <crypticmofo> its lenova twist it has no cdrom
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> live cd/usb  <-- :) i alwyas use bootable usb flash drives these days
[04:59] <nobody_> Hi, just looking for some advice. What would be the easiest way of building a (text only) ubuntu live cd with some extra files installed?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> i cant even find info on repairing grub with chroot/commands now on the wiki.
[05:00] <reisio> nobody_: just extra files you might want to access, or extra files in particular places in the FS?
[05:00] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I gots'm memorized
[05:00] <nobody_> reisio: specifically a script that i need to run at startup and some required packages for said script
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  luckly i dont need them enough  to do that.
[05:01] <reisio> nobody_: ah
[05:01] <caf4926> * forum thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275&highlight=grub+splash
[05:01] <nobody_> reisio: I'm essentially building a really nasty installer
[05:01] <reisio> Dr_Willis: guaranteed to get you laid, bro :p
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> boot-repair  live cd/iso file -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/?source=recommended   508mb
[05:01] <reisio> nobody_: :)
[05:01] <reisio> whoops, meant to be a notice
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> reisio:   dont tell my wife. ;P
[05:01] <reisio> naturally
[05:02] <crypticmofo> where is the kernel located normally on a fresh install
[05:02] <crypticmofo> i think i can fake it
[05:02] <crypticmofo> im at the installer at a boot option / can't i say root=/dev/sda4 ?
[05:02] <crypticmofo> but i need the kernel to boot
[05:02] <nobody_> I'm currently reading through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization but i'm not sure if there's a nicer way
[05:02] <reisio> crypticmofo: what's the problem?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows     has terminal directions
[05:03] <chiques> Dr_Willis, ha, goes back to the problem being between the keyboard and chair! lol
[05:04] <rotorgeek> Anyone got a sec for a Screen (the program) question?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> alternative terminal way --->    http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[05:04] <Ben64> rotorgeek: don't ask to ask, just ask
[05:06] <rotorgeek> I'm trying to launch screen at boot on a Rasberry Pi. I'm having problems getting it to run from /etc/rc.local
[05:07] <Ben64> rotorgeek: should probably ask #raspberrypi
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> rc.local does run as root. :) just in case you dont realize that. so screen would run as root.
[05:08]  * Dr_Willis likes his Pi's
[05:08] <rotorgeek> Dr_Willis: can you run it for a particular user?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> rotorgeek:  with the use of 'su' yes
[05:09] <medo> how i can recover my delete data ?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> medo:  depends on how you deleted it and what it is
[05:09] <Ben64> !undelete | medo
[05:09] <rotorgeek> Ben64: nothing comes up when I try to join that chan
[05:10] <Ben64> rotorgeek: you have to be registered to join
[05:10] <rotorgeek> ok
[05:10] <medo> ok
[05:11] <Mace268> Is there any way to make Nautilus forget a login that I told it to save until logout?
[05:11] <holstein> Mace268: login to what?
[05:12] <Mace268> a local sftp site
[05:12] <holstein> Mace268: you should be able to just reconnect with different credentials.. try gigolo if you cant get what you need accomplished
[05:12] <holstein> !info gigolo
[05:12] <Mace268> I am logged in as root there but am getting access denied on all file actions.
[05:13] <holstein> Mace268: you shouldnd be logged in as root..
[05:13] <Mace268> I can't get it to ask for credentials again unless I log out. I can do that but wondered if there was a command.
[05:13] <Mace268> I know but it's just a local server
[05:13] <holstein> Mace268: log out, and dont save the creds
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> theres bound to be some files in the users home that are caching them i imagine.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> but  i agree with holstein .
[05:14] <holstein> shouldnt need to run as root for anything im reading there
[05:15] <Thelas> My router was recently changed; after this, I stopped being able to load web pages (DNS lookups fail and I can't load pages by IP) when on wireless.  This machine can still connect via ethernet to the router and works fine; other (Mac) machines can connect wirelessly with no problems.  I am not very familiar with networking, so don't know what other information may be of use - please say so if you need anything to be able to help.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> Thelas:  you are using DHCP and not static addressing in network manager?
[05:16] <holstein> Thelas: your home router was recently changed?
[05:17] <Thelas> Dr_Willis: Yes, for both wireless and wired.
[05:17] <Thelas> holstein: Yes.
[05:17] <holstein> Thelas: why/how? and by whom? ask them to change it back..
[05:18] <Ben64> or just set a static dns server
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> can you een ping the gateway?
[05:18] <Thelas> holstein: Family member decided to upgrade bandwidth allowed and ISP required we purchase/use a new router to do so.
[05:18] <holstein> i would want to reset the router, and make sure its working properly.. set good passwords and check the dns settings.. etc
[05:19] <Thelas> Dr_Willis: Haven't tested it; is there a way to tell ping to use the wireless connection or do I have to disconnect wired to do so?
[05:19] <holstein> Thelas: i would ask who you purchased the router from for support..
[05:20] <Thelas> They say they won't support Linux users (despite the person in the store when it was purchased claiming it would work with Ubuntu machines...)
[05:20] <holstein> Thelas: then, login on the osx machine you referenced above, and ask them for support
[05:21] <Ben64> holstein: you're not really helping...
[05:21] <holstein> Ben64: its not on topic here
[05:21] <Ben64> then direct him to ##networking or something
[05:22] <Thelas> Hm..?  I don't get what you're suggesting.  The OSX machine works fine with the wireless.  I tried telephone support when this was discovered and got no help.
[05:22] <holstein> Thelas: i would reset the unit, and set good passwords.. confirm the dns settings are "good"
[05:22] <holstein> Ben64: i'll just let you take it.. thanks!
[05:22] <Thelas> I'm not sure what you mean by "good" DNS settings.
[05:23] <Ben64> Thelas: you need to see if you can ping from it
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> googles dns server ip are <IP_ADDRESS> and err.. i forget . ;)
[05:24] <Thelas> Ben64: Do you mean ping the router from this machine, or something else?
[05:24] <Ben64> Thelas: from whichever machine isn't working
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Thelas:  the  command 'ifconfig' should show you your ip. and then you can tell the routers ip.
[05:24] <Thelas> Okay, disconnecting wired connection to test. Will be back after.
[05:25] <Ben64> Thelas: would be easiest if you could be in here on a different device instead of connecting and disconnecting
[05:25] <StephDC> Does this channel offer some support to 13.10 Alpha?
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> StephDC, #ubuntu+1
[05:26] <StephDC> wilee-nilee: Thanks.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> are they even calling them alpha and beta builds any more? ;)
[05:27] <Thelas> Hm, apparently I didn't timeout while doing that.
[05:27] <Thelas> Can't ping the router (14 transmitted, 0 received, time 13103ms).
[05:28] <Thelas> Ben64: Okay, will do so.  Be back on a different machine.
[05:30] <rjknight1> hello guys, what other tools other than apt-proxy?
[05:30] <Thelas> Right, back.  If it didn't show up, the Ubuntu machine can't ping the router (when on wireless connection.)
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> if the router is not giveing the linux box an ip/dns stuff.. theres deeper issues going on
[05:30] <xmetal> hmm ... for some reason (not that i am dumping Grub2) ... this gfxboot thing has me curious (I have already downloaded the packages)
[05:31] <holstein> Thelas: is the access point named the same? and has the same password? you could try throwing the connection away in the manager and try joining again
[05:32] <Thelas> holstein: It is.  Ubuntu claims it's connected; iwconfig shows the correct Mac address for the router (matches with the router's settings page.)
[05:32] <holstein> Thelas: please open the network manager, and go to connection and delete the access point, and reconnect,a nd test
[05:33] <holstein> Thelas: maybe, right click on the network icon in the tray, and go to "wireless".. highlight the AP and "delete" it..
[05:34] <holstein> Thelas: then, select it and rejoin
[05:34] <Thelas> holstein: Just did so.  Still no result for host google.com.
[05:35] <holstein> Thelas: and the router?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> and ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:36] <Thelas> holstein: Are you just suggesting power-cycling the router, or something else?
[05:36] <holstein> Thelas: can you ping the router or poing <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:36] <Thelas> Neither.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> does 'ifconfig' show you haveing a valid ip?
[05:37] <holstein> Thelas: but other machines can? and you can get online wired with the ubuntu machine?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis>  inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>        or similer.
[05:37] <Thelas> holstein: Yes to both.
[05:37] <holstein> Thelas: that makes no sense
[05:38] <Thelas> Dr_Willis: <IP_ADDRESS> (router is <IP_ADDRESS> and other machines are 192.168.0.*, so seems good.)
[05:38] <holstein> Thelas: try to just disable and re-enable the wifi chip
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> id be curious to test with a differnt disrto/live cd. and see if they work.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> and see if the other pcs can ping your <IP_ADDRESS> address
[05:39] <Myrtti> can you open and edit and save files on your system? I recently couldn't connect to Internet because harddrive was having a bad day
[05:40] <holstein> Myrtti: says connection via wired works...
[05:40] <Myrtti> mkay
[05:40] <Thelas> holstein: If you just mean the hardware switch on the laptop, just tested, doesn't help.
[05:40] <Myrtti> might be driver issue, has that Been looked at
[05:41] <Myrtti> should work?
[05:41] <Thelas> Dr_Willis: Mac times out pinging the address Ubuntu machine claims.
[05:41] <holstein> Myrtti: says it used to work with another router :/
[05:42] <holstein> Thelas: i think this is something odd.. i would make *certain* you are connecting to the proper access point. if it were me, i would try a live CD on that machine..
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> i got a new router.. but i added it to the old one. ;) so i got them daisy-chained.. heh..
[05:42] <Myrtti> this sounds familiar but alas I have to go, and I can't quite pinpoint how it is familiar
[05:43] <Thelas> holstein: I definitely am (iwconfig shows the same Mac address as the router setup page; that's enough to guarantee that, right?); sadly, don't think I have a blank CD to burn one.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> use a usb perhaps? you can also setup grub2 to boot ISO files if you got the skills.
[05:44] <holstein> Thelas: is the other router there? plug it in, connect and see if you can ping it.. connect to *any* other AP and see if its working
[05:49] <Thelas> holstein: Sadly, only way I can think of to connect to another AP right now is to get family's iPhone to make one, and said iPhone is located in a room with sleeping owner of it, so... Anything else anyone can think of to test for now? If not, I'll come back later when I can test that.
[05:50] <holstein> Thelas: no..
[05:50] <Thelas> Thanks for the help regardless.  Be well.
[05:51] <holstein> id say the chances that that wifi chip died at the same time that AP was replaced are slim...
[05:55] <floatingrain> I get the no wubildr error found when I try to boot into Ubuntu 12.04. I believe a package update may have borked my booting. I cannot find up to date instructions on wubildr not found for 12.04, only for 10.x, which are very outdated anddo not work.
[05:55] <floatingrain> I would apperciate it if anyone could help me get Ubuntu booting again.
[05:55]  * floatingrain is currently booted into live USB mode, however the commands for fixing it on 10.x does not work.
[05:56] <blazemore> floatingrain: Are you using Wubi?
[05:56] <floatingrain> blazemore, Apparently so.
[06:00] <floatingrain> blazemore, Wait. I do not boot Ubuntu THROUGH windows
[06:01] <floatingrain> When I start up the computer I'm at window's bootloader, I pick Ubuntu. Is that wubi? I do have wubi files on my windows pc, and I'm not sure if I'm using wubi or not.
[06:01] <floatingrain> I see /host/ on Ubuntu
[06:01] <reisio> floatingrain: inconclusive, but could be
[06:01] <floatingrain> reisio, how can I tell if I'm uing wubi or not, and how can I boot back into ubuntu?
[06:02] <babinlonston> Installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS and now i want to remove the left side tool bar and i want to keep my computer and other icons in desktop how can i do it
[06:02] <reisio> floatingrain: how many disks have you got? You can't boot into Ubuntu now?
[06:02] <floatingrain> reisio, I only have one HDD. I can't boot into ubuntu - I get the wubildr error.
[06:02] <reisio> ah
[06:02] <reisio> well that sounds like wubi to me :p
[06:03] <floatingrain> I power up my computer, it asks me if I want to boot into Windows or Ubuntu.
[06:03] <floatingrain> I press ubuntu, I see two lines quickly flash by about unable to find wubildr, and then I'm back to the emergency grub recovery prompt.
[06:03] <reisio> what'd you do to break it? :)
[06:03] <floatingrain> reisio, I'm pretty sure the package manager broke it. I did nothing in particular. I was on windows for a few days before coming back.
[06:03] <reisio> mmm, ewll
[06:03] <reisio> well, even
[06:04] <reisio> I s'pose this is why people don't like wubi
[06:04] <floatingrain> I don't even know I have wubi.. What's the difference?
[06:04] <floatingrain> What's the difference between wubi and dual booting? because it looks exactly like a dual boot.
[06:04] <reisio> with wubi, your Ubuntu is actually installed into a _file_ inside your Windows filesystem
[06:04] <reisio> when you boot it, it pretends the file is a disk
[06:04] <floatingrain> where is that file?
[06:04] <reisio> it's somewhere :)
[06:04] <reisio> I'd check program files first, then c:\
[06:04] <floatingrain> because the disks I see are a max of 256MB
[06:05] <reisio> it will probably have an obvious name
[06:05] <floatingrain> and that's obviously not enough.
[06:05] <reisio> http://windirstat.info/
[06:05] <floatingrain> reisio, C:/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ? that's 0 bytes
[06:05] <reisio> according to what, Windows?
[06:06] <floatingrain> according to ubuntu.  But it's not recongized by Windows or GParted.
[06:07] <floatingrain> The file system is lvm2, is that expected?
[06:08] <reisio> floatingrain: this looks fancy and promising :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[06:08] <floatingrain> reisio, tried that, does not work on 12.04
[06:08] <reisio> I s'pose it's possible you installed via wubi but have Ubuntu on a dedicated partition
[06:08] <floatingrain> mount commands give me an error. I think I installed via wubi but I'm pretty sure it's on a dedi partition
[06:08] <reisio> if that's the case, it'd probably be best to remove the wubi part and just keep the data
[06:08] <floatingrain> Right. But I need to boot first, I need my data there.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> i didebnt think wubi could install to a dedicated partion.
[06:09] <reisio> it's pretty unlikely the data has been harmed
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> it could access a linux partion i guess.
[06:09] <floatingrain> Well I have a /dev/sda6 with expected sizes
[06:09] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I think the win32 executable is all called "wubi"
[06:09] <floatingrain> "Unknown filesystem type: 'LVM2_member'"
[06:09] <reisio> Dr_Willis: yeah? and one option is to do a dedicated install
[06:09] <floatingrain> I can't mount /dev/sda6 :(
[06:09] <reisio> floatingrain: how'd you try to mount it?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> wubi can do a dedicated install? never noticed that.  but i dont recall wubi ever doing lvm stuff either. ;)
[06:09] <floatingrain> sudo mount /dev/sda6 /media/lnx
[06:10] <reisio> Dr_Willis: heh, dunno
[06:10] <floatingrain> OK, so /dev/sda1 is my windows boot directly. /dev/sda2 is Windows's C. /dev/sda3 is my windows/lenovo recovery. /dev/sda4 is extended, /dev/sda5 is ext4 and is 500MB. /dev/sda6 is lvm2, 97GB, lvm flags
[06:10] <floatingrain> I am rpetty sure /dev/sda4 is Ubuntu and the /dev/sda5 is the Ubuntu boot drive, with /dev/sda6 my data. What does lvm flags mean?
[06:10] <reisio> floatingrain: what does 'pvs' say?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> sounds like sda5 may be / and sda6 may be /home/
[06:11] <floatingrain> The program pvs is not currently installed. installing
[06:11] <reisio> floatingrain: sudo pvs?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> !find pvs
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> !info ipvsadm
[06:11] <floatingrain> It tells me to install lvm2
[06:11] <reisio> yeah lvm2
[06:11] <reisio> ubottu: no cookies for you
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> !info lvm2
[06:11] <reisio> not much chance of that
[06:12] <floatingrain> reisio, while installing: "cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab"
[06:12] <floatingrain> oh it's still setting up, just slow.
[06:13] <reisio> floatingrain: warnings are like hall monitors
[06:13] <reisio> just ignore them :p
[06:13] <poee> Hi, I have a 1tb hard disk that is fully ext4 and ubuntu is installed on that. I want to partition it so I can install windows while keeping ubuntu intact. how can I do that?
[06:13] <reisio> poee: you'd need to resize the partition/s to make space for a couple windows partitions
[06:13] <floatingrain> poee, resize it and then make a new partition
[06:13] <floatingrain> well shrink it
[06:13] <reisio> poee: resizing isn't 100% safe, it's more like 75% safe, so back up anything you care about first
[06:13] <crypticmofo> so
[06:14] <reisio> poee: can use gparted from your live OS
[06:14] <reisio> crypticmofo: yeah?
[06:14] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis:  i booted to a live cd and my ubuntu is actually on /dev/sda6
[06:14] <crypticmofo> wierd
[06:14] <reisio> crypticmofo: pretty weird
[06:14] <poee> reisio, the computer is under warranty. I can backup the data.
[06:14] <reisio> poee: not sure what one has to do with the other, but good? :)
[06:15] <crypticmofo> ok
[06:15] <crypticmofo> so if my ubuntu install is on /dev/sda6
[06:15] <poee> reisio, you said resizing wasn't safe :P
[06:15] <crypticmofo> do i do sudo grub root (hd0,6) ?
[06:15] <floatingrain> reisio, ok, got pvs
[06:15] <floatingrain> /dev/sda6 vg_somebody lvm2 a- 97.16g 0% free
[06:15] <reisio> poee: it's not 100% safe, for your data
[06:15] <reisio> poee: your hardware should be 100% safe :)
[06:15] <floatingrain> it says 0% free! is it corrupted ??
[06:16] <reisio> floatingrain: would probably say 'corrupted' if it could detect that, don't you think? :p
[06:16] <poee> reisio, ah. okay :). Can I use gparted from my native ubuntu, or do I have to use gparted from a Live CD?
[06:16] <reisio> floatingrain: lvdisplay /dev/vg_somebody
[06:16] <reisio> poee: live
[06:17] <floatingrain> reisio, but it says it's 0% free.. what do I look for it in there?
[06:17] <floatingrain> I see 3 logical volumes
[06:17] <poee> reisio, okay, got it, thanks :)
[06:17] <reisio> poee: also chances are Windows will prefer space at the beginning of the disk, not the end
[06:17] <floatingrain> /dev/vg_somebody/lv_swap /dev/vg_somebody/lv_home /dev/vg_somebody/lv_root
[06:17] <floatingrain> this is my ubuntu disk!
[06:17] <reisio> poee: and it might want primary partitions (GNU/Linux doesn't care about primary or not)
[06:17] <floatingrain> All 3 are NOT available.
[06:17] <reisio> floatingrain: you should be able to mount either lv_home or lv_root
[06:18] <floatingrain> reisio, how do I only mount one of them?
[06:18] <reisio> mount /dev/vg_somebody/lv_home /mnt/point, etc.
[06:18] <poee> reisio, I don't want this format to affect my primary linux installation
[06:18] <reisio> poee: naturally
[06:18] <reisio> poee: which version of Windows are you installing?
[06:19] <floatingrain> reisio, "special device /dev/vg_somebody/lv_home does not xist"
[06:19] <poee> reisio, Windows 8 64 bit, provided by manufacturer(Dell)
[06:19] <reisio> poee: ah, do you recall how many partitions it required?
[06:19] <Flannel> floatingrain: look in /dev/mapper/*
[06:19] <poee> reisio, No. When I got the computer, I pretty much wiped it clean and installed ubuntu
[06:19] <rednet> who is the german channel?
[06:20] <reisio> rednet: /msg alis list *ubunt*de
[06:20] <floatingrain> channel flood?
[06:21] <floatingrain> But anyway: so my situtation is I have Ubuntu on it's own partition, but when I boot I get an error about wubildr
[06:21] <reisio> poee: well I don't remember how many partitions Windows uses anymore, but it shouldn't be more than 3, so you shouldn't have to worry about primary vs not
[06:21] <reisio> poee: probably :)
[06:21] <reisio> poee: #windows would know for sure
[06:21] <floatingrain> All I need to sabotage is my SSH privat ekeys
[06:21] <floatingrain> I *need* the ssh private keys :/
[06:22] <reisio> floatingrain: so are they not in /dev/mapper ?
[06:22] <floatingrain> reisio, /dev/mapper just has control which I don't know to do what with
[06:22] <floatingrain> it just has a file control but it's not a file and it's not a directory ??
[06:22] <poee> reisio, if worse comes to worse, I can have dell come in and reinstall it for me :D
[06:22] <Flannel> floatingrain: Oh, this is a liveCD type thing?
[06:22] <floatingrain> Yeah, I'm on a liveUSB to recover my Ubuntu installation
[06:23] <Flannel> floatingrain: You'll need to install lvm tools and bring up your logical volumes semi-manually.  It's not difficult.  Let me find you a link.
[06:23] <floatingrain> Flannel, but I think the difficult part would be getting the boot loader working ?
[06:23] <Flannel> floatingrain: Not if you're just reading the drives as data.
[06:23] <Flannel> floatingrain: You're installing lvm "on" the LiveCD
[06:24] <reisio> floatingrain: try this: lvchange -a y /dev/vg_somebody/lv_home
[06:24] <reisio> floatingrain: and then this again: mount /dev/vg_somebody/lv_home /mnt/point
[06:24] <floatingrain> YES
[06:24] <floatingrain> I MOUNTED
[06:24] <reisio> gj
[06:24] <reisio> isn't lvm fun? :p
[06:25] <floatingrain> It seems to be loading but I only see one directly, lost+found
[06:25] <floatingrain> What is that ?
[06:25] <floatingrain> Only 1 directory :(
[06:25] <reisio> mmm, either it's not done loading, or your data is in there
[06:25] <reisio> could be either
[06:25] <floatingrain> and I get permission denied when I try to look in it
[06:25] <floatingrain> reisio, ...
[06:26] <form4> does ubuntu touch run on android devices?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> supposed to when its done i belive. ;)
[06:26] <reisio> form4: I believe they keep a list in the /topic of -touch
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !touch
[06:26] <reisio> but if you replace the OS, it's not going to be an Android device anymore :p
[06:27] <form4> yeah
[06:27] <reisio> floatingrain: umount it
[06:27] <floatingrain> OMG
[06:27] <floatingrain> I MOUNTED lv_root
[06:27] <floatingrain> AND MY FILES ARE THERE (I think)
[06:27] <reisio> heheh okay
[06:27] <reisio> some lvm magic
[06:27] <floatingrain> Where do I see my user directory?
[06:27] <reisio> floatingrain: /home/
[06:28] <floatingrain> That's empty but again I just mounted and I'm not a user there
[06:28] <floatingrain> /usr/ has too many folders
[06:28] <reisio> /usr/ is something else
[06:28] <reisio> try umount'ing lv_home
[06:28] <floatingrain> oh, so lv_root doesn't have my user directory ?
[06:28] <reisio> probably not
[06:28] <reisio> lv_home probably has
[06:28] <floatingrain> :/ and lv_home is empty
[06:28] <floatingrain> it only has lost+found
[06:28] <reisio> it's probably not empty :)
[06:28] <reisio> how big is lost+found
[06:28] <floatingrain> but I don't see anything.
[06:29] <floatingrain> and it has finished loading. I can't access it, says permission denied.
[06:29] <reisio> umount them both and run vgscan --mknodes
[06:30] <floatingrain> can't umount, says it is mounted multiple times for home and says it's mounted over for root
[06:32] <floatingrain> ok tried it again and umounted
[06:32] <floatingrain> Found volume group "vg_somebody" using metadata type lvm2
[06:33] <floatingrain> hi BTCOxygen
[06:34] <reisio> floatingrain: umount :)
[06:36] <floatingrain> reisio, I umounted, here's what I get with vgscan
[06:36] <floatingrain> Found volume group "vg_somebody" using metadata type lvm2
[06:38] <freze> if I run a transmission client and in the preferences select enable web client, does that start a seperate daemon or connect to a preexisting running daemon? From what I have done it looks like it does not since when I enabled the client it did not connect to the running daemon on the pc but started a web client that ran within the tranmission-gt process
[06:39]  * floatingrain just wishes to be able to boot :(
[06:39] <floatingrain> How do I uninstall Wubi and tell ubuntu, hey, here's the partition, go mount yourself..
[06:39] <floatingrain> or heck, how can I nab my ssh private keys?
[06:39] <floatingrain> and source code for my projects
[06:40] <reisio> floatingrain: was it encrypted?
[06:41] <floatingrain> nope
[06:41] <karab44> how to send video stream from ubuntu to TV wirelessly?
[06:41] <karab44> video/audio actually
[06:41] <reisio> karab44: with a wireless router or bluetooth emitter
[06:41] <karab44> You mean simple router?
[06:41] <karab44> how to configure that?
[06:42] <reisio> floatingrain: lsmod | grep dm
[06:42] <reisio> karab44: read the manual :)
[06:42] <karab44> I mean Remote desktop
[06:42] <karab44> reisio: you're telling me about DLNA server
[06:42] <floatingrain> reisio, What am I looking at?
[06:42] <reisio> your TV probably hasn't the software for that on its own, so you'd probably need to connect it to a computer
[06:43] <reisio> floatingrain: stuff, what's it say?
[06:43] <floatingrain> reisio, I got like 12 lines.
[06:43] <karab44> reisio: you think that 56inch Bravia 2012 is not well equipped?
[06:43] <reisio> floatingrain: dm-mod?
[06:44] <reisio> karab44: I think size, brand, and year aren't factors
[06:44] <karab44> So what do I need?
[06:44] <maxb> floatingrain: So, if you're in Ubuntu, and you've got LVM recognizing your setup, and you've mounted it, can't you just copy anything you want elsewhere?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  i can do it with my Samsung TV's via upnp. or the various smart tv features
[06:44] <floatingrain> reisio, no, I see dm_crypt, a bunch of codecs, dm_multipaath, dm_mirror, dm_raid45, dm_log, dm_region_hash
[06:44] <reisio> Dr_Willis: mmm, samsung
[06:44] <reisio> floatingrain: can you sudo modprobe dm-mod?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  you have to see wht 'smart' features your tv has. if not.. get a roku, or a raspberry pi. or one of those chromecast dongles. (if you can find one)
[06:45] <floatingrain> reisio, empty output
[06:45] <reisio> floatingrain: normal
[06:45] <karab44> Dr_Willis: So you got destkop image on your TV? or just.... DLNA streamserver?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  yes to both.. I can hook the pc up to the tv. or i can use it as a dlna 'viewer' it also has the Plex channel so i can get to my UPNP servers from the tv.
[06:46] <floatingrain> reisio, ok, so how do I get it botting. gribbIe?
[06:46] <reisio> floatingrain: vgscan --mknodes; vgchange -a y
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> and it can play videos directly from the usb ports
[06:46] <reisio> floatingrain: then mount lv_root, then mount lv_home to where you mount root/home
[06:46] <karab44> I want to let's say make HDMI connection wirelessly without any specific designed routers for $200 on amazon
[06:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo! interesting situation, I have 2 pc's running xubuntu, the desktop runs 12.04, the notebook 13.04. The desktop has a pretty much steady connection to wireless internet, and I wish to share that to the desktop over bluetooth. They are both paired, but I'm having issue getting the internet to flow.
[06:46] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I got one of'm :) but my friend just got a newer one and his is fancier still
[06:46]  * reisio stabs :p
[06:47] <reisio> ntzrmtthihu777: you used desktop twice there
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> i cant even imagine whats fancier then what i got now.. Unless they put a full android os in the thing. :)
[06:47] <reisio> it's pathetic what the competition has
[06:47] <reisio> I think the LG TV next to the Samsung could play...
[06:47] <reisio> DivX in an AVI
[06:47] <reisio> the end
[06:48] <reisio> those Samsungs play anything, and let you watch youtube :p
[06:48] <floatingrain> reisio, done, but home only contains lost+found
[06:48] <crazyhorse> i was very impressed with ubuntu's built in file sharing
[06:48] <reisio> and retailers don't know how to sell them
[06:48] <crazyhorse> i remember doing samba in 2001 and it was a pain in the ass.. this just worked first time :D
[06:48] <reisio> they say the tv has a "computer port" (which really means: usb, and can play anything)
[06:48] <reisio> floatingrain: k, look in there
[06:49] <floatingrain> reisio, I can't, permission denied
[06:49] <dexterity> I have a 8-core (4 g ram) machine running apache2 serving multiple websites, and load often peaks above 15.00, how to remedy this?
[06:49] <floatingrain> dexterity, optimize your scripts
[06:50] <somsip> dexterity: what does iowait look like?
[06:50] <crazyhorse> dexterity: why's it so crazy.. cpu, memory or disk io?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  it dosent work for a lot of people. ;)
[06:50] <crazyhorse> Dr_Willis: did for me.. but i was connecting from a mac so
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  you could use nfs,or sshfs for that also i belive.
[06:51] <dexterity> somsip, crazyhorse: I'm not sure what's the root cause. How can I find out?
[06:51] <karab44> Dr_Willis: so You can not use TV as PC Screen because this is what I am talking about.
[06:51] <floatingrain> reisio, lost+found is empty
[06:52] <reisio> dexterity: nginx
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  i plug my pc into the hdmi port.. and am using it right now as a PC monitor
[06:52] <karab44> no no no, wirelessly
[06:52] <helmut_> hi
[06:52] <reisio> floatingrain: beyond my knowledge I'm afraid
[06:52] <reisio> helmut_: hi
[06:52] <floatingrain> reisio, isn't  there a chkdsk I can run? :(
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  intel has a feature for that but its not common.
[06:52] <reisio> floatingrain: yeah
[06:52] <dexterity> reisio: I would like to find out exactly what is wrong before changing webserver
[06:52] <reisio> floatingrain: umount, fsck
[06:52] <somsip> dexterity: look at what is causing the load. Could be CPU bound (look for CPU > 100%) or could be disk-bound (look for %wa). Other indicators are in top too. Is swap being used (shudder)?
[06:52] <karab44> Dr_Willis: what feature, pls tell me more...
[06:53] <reisio> dexterity: apache is old, that's part of what's wrong
[06:53] <somsip> dexterity: is it running mySQL too?
[06:53] <floatingrain> reisio, YES
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  no idea what intel calls it.. some sort of wireless hdmi feature on some of the their chipstes. can transmit to a monitor. or tv if it has the right hardware. theres also some sort of reciever box you can get for tvs
[06:53] <floatingrain> says it's clean
[06:53] <floatingrain> 11/2596864 files
[06:54] <floatingrain> Do I seriously have 2596k files??
[06:54] <reisio> http://snaprails.tumblr.com/post/325624962/linux-performance-benchmark-apache-nginx
[06:54] <reisio> floatingrain: are they there? :p
[06:54] <karab44> receiver boxes are out of the game but I'll check up this intel's HDMI thing. Thanks bro
[06:54] <dexterity> somsip: htop shows that swap is being used, but "free -m" shows that there's free memory (?)
[06:54] <floatingrain> reisio, I can't see the files through ls or natulius
[06:55] <crazyhorse> so anychance we will be able to run android apps in ubuntu?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  i think ive seen some android vms mentioned befor on the blog sites.
[06:55] <somsip> dexterity: I'd suggest that's the first thing to investigate as it will be a performance killer. But it can be the thin end of the wedge. Server tweaking is an ongoing process that goes on...and on...and on. Solving initial problems is usually not *too* onerous though
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> theres also the android x86 that works in vbox
[06:56] <crazyhorse> Dr_Willis: nice.. ok..  i'll check it out
[06:56] <crazyhorse> there's a ton of apps i can't run because they haven't made linux versions
[06:56] <crazyhorse> but there are android versions
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  thers that bluesstack thing for windows. i THINK they were working on a linux version at one time
[06:57]  * floatingrain blames ubuntu package manager for making me accidently install some upgrades
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> darn them for pushing out security updates! ;)
[06:57] <reisio> crazyhorse: there's a free android emulator you can run on GNU/Linux
[06:57] <floatingrain> this is the second time updates broke somethin
[06:58] <crazyhorse> reisio: sweet.. does it work?
[06:58] <floatingrain> first time it broke my production server, couldn't boot
[06:58] <floatingrain> now it breaks my laptop ..
[06:58] <karab44> Dr_Willis: Intel calls it WiDi but I think solution still could be resolved by software.
[06:58] <reisio> crazyhorse: course
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  if your tv supported vnc, :) yes.. or somthing similer
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  but sending full HD video over  that might be a bit hard
[06:58] <karab44> That's the point!
[06:59] <crazyhorse> reisio: is that different from android-x86?
[06:59] <floatingrain> Is there anything I can do in GNU-GRUB?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> you can do lots of things in grub.. if you got the grub skills.
[07:00] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis :/
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> but im not clear on what your whole problem is/was/  ;) been watching tv.
[07:00] <reisio> crazyhorse: don't know what android-x86 is, but I'm assuming it is, as the ordinary arch for android devices is arm
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Android-86 is for Normal Intel/windows type hardware. ;)    works ok on my netbook.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> but not all android arm  progrmas work on it from whta i recall.
[07:01] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, I get the wubildr loader not found error when I boot suddendly, after updating some packages. I have ubuntu in /dev/sda6, divided into 3 logical volumes (swap, root, home). home is empty except for lost+found but fsck reports 2 million + files (?)
[07:01] <floatingrain> all I want is to boot back into Ubuntu.
[07:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> no one, then?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  i really have to wonder how you had wubi setup extra partions.. and a LVM.. i dident even think wubi could do that.
[07:01] <xmetal> i have a working grub 2 now .. .been (just to give it a try) reading up on gfxboot
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  check where your /etc/fstab says home should be.. it could be on another partition. (that would be very weird also)
[07:02] <reisio> most android apps are just frontends to websites or repackagings of existing apps :p
[07:02] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, I dunno! Is ther eany way I can make it skip wubi?
[07:02] <floatingrain> I'm booting through a liveUSB too btw
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:   were YOU the one that installed this system? or someone else?
[07:02] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, yes, I installed it, like a year ago.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  you booted a cd/usb and installed that way?  or ran some binary from inside windows?
[07:03] <rjknight1> apt-proxy gone. :(
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  beacuse wubi  dosent do the kind of setup you have.. of course neiother does a normal install.
[07:03] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, I have the wubi binary there. I think what I did was install through a liveusb through. Either way in C:/ubuntu/disks/root.dsk it's empty
[07:03] <floatingrain> Maybe the updates ASSUMED I'm using wubi just cause I have wubi binaries
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  but you Have a C:/ubuntu/disks/ ?
[07:03] <floatingrain> (on windows)
[07:03] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, Yes.
[07:03] <floatingrain> But /dev/sda6 is ubuntu
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> the update manager wouldent see you had a wubi.exe on your c:/ as far as i know.
[07:04] <rjknight1> unable to locate package apt-proxy
[07:04] <floatingrain> well then I'm not sure what exactly broke it except I got a wubildr not found error.
[07:04] <floatingrain> and can't boot.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> wubi dosent use grub either  well  it chain loads it from windows i think.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  somthing on windows deleted your wubi files sounds like.
[07:04] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, see, this is where it gets confusing. Dr_Wills: no
[07:05] <floatingrain> /dev/sda6 is ubuntu
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> You said you had no wubi files.. but had the wubi directory.. and its booting and saying it cant find the wubildr. that would be the wubi bootloader i would think
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> unless of course you have had 2 differnt installs on the system at the same time
[07:06] <floatingrain> I have placed wubildr on all my partitions.
[07:06] <floatingrain> All my partitions have wubildr copied there, and it still says not found.
[07:06] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: Can you boot into windows?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> and the windows loader  loads that stuff i belive. so its looking in the wrong place. or been told some where else to look. (im guessing)
[07:07] <floatingrain> Wait a sec
[07:07] <floatingrain> I also have fedora
[07:07] <floatingrain> On my system.
[07:07] <BTCOxygen> hmmm
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Fedora DOES use lvm by default as far as i recall.
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> wubi and ubuntu does not (that ive seen)
[07:07] <floatingrain> OK that is fedora, screw that
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> so it sounds like your wubi install was on the windows c:/ and got erased
[07:08] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, I am pretty sure random files don't get erased.
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> or windows fscked it and moved it..
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: another case of #wubi-fail
[07:08] <nikitha> hi
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  with disk checking, ive seen files from all over a windows drive get erased
[07:08] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: It does on windows.
[07:09] <nikitha> i used ubuntu 13.04 and linuxmint 15
[07:09] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: When you have any anti-virus tools installed.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> scan the windows hd looking for very large files. several GB in size.. that May be your wubi save/hd image file.
[07:09] <nikitha> any linuxmint 15 users here ?
[07:09] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, No anti virus.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> if you find the file - you can mountit via the Loop feature of mount
[07:09] <floatingrain> Windows find largest files
[07:09] <BTCOxygen> hmmm
[07:09] <floatingrain> oops not google
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> nikitha:  mint has its own support channels.. not here.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> !mint > nikitha
[07:09] <nikitha> i had installed linuxmint 15 , wine ,  few of my apps still are with windows such as oracle etc,  can install windows based oracle on wine of linuxmint ?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> !wine > nikitha
[07:10] <xmetal> !miunt
[07:10] <xmetal> oops
[07:10] <xmetal> !mint
[07:11] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: Do you have Microsoft Security Essentials ?
[07:11] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, but why would I get wubildr not found if it was my root.disk missing
[07:11] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, No, no anti virus.
[07:11] <BTCOxygen> Which version of windows do you have?
[07:11] <floatingrain> Win7
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  perhaps wubildr is suposed to get read from that root.disk
[07:11] <xmetal> hmm back to researching gfxboot ... most of the tutorials are based on grub 1 to Gfxboot ... i have grub 2
[07:12] <BTCOxygen> IIRC, Some Microsoft anti-virus tool comes pre-Installed on Win7
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> windows -> wubi -> grabs the kernel and stuff from the root.disk
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  theres some grub2 variant that has all sorts of theme features. but i forget its name
[07:12] <nikitha> my major priority now is to  migration to linux and loss dependence of ms windows.... so i see linux and its dependent as one, i knew there are channels for differents tools , but i see linux as one.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  also grub2 has some features. but i think they are normally disabled by default
[07:13] <floatingrain> ok root.disk is empty I'll have to run chkdsk
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> nikitha:  most distros  have their own support channels. theres the general #linux channel also
[07:13] <kadd> hey folks, quick question: Ubuntu on phone is free of charge or required License!!
[07:13] <xeonix> Hello penguins :]
[07:14] <nikitha> thanks dr willis, i mean linux means any linux distros
[07:14] <floatingrain> So can someone tell me why Windows sometimes erases entire files?
[07:14] <xmetal> true ..i feel that Mint and Ubuntu are "close enough" that many questions could be answered in either channel, though they (each distro) have their own channel
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> hard disk/file system curruption - disk gets scanned.. bad files get moved/deleted/moved to lost+foundor whever
[07:14] <xmetal> cause it stinks?
[07:14] <Tm_T> nikitha: xmetal: to reiterate, this is Ubuntu support channel, Mint is not Ubuntu so it cannot be supported here
[07:14]  * xmetal shrugs
[07:14] <xmetal> :)
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> windows gives them those nice names.. like  found.0001 found.00003
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Ive had ENTIRE hard drives befome all 'found.####' files
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> i think thats how they get named.. ;)
[07:15] <xmetal> thats exactly what i just said
[07:15] <Tm_T> kadd: Ubuntu is free ofcourse
[07:15] <xmetal> sheesh
[07:15] <nikitha> willis, what ever linux distros, major thing for me to shift to linux and loss my dependency on ms windows .... in gerenal i use windows 7, ms office, oracle 11g, d2k (forms and reports). for oracle and its products esp. for d2k i dependent on ms windows ...
[07:16] <xmetal> love those "untitled" files too
[07:16] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: It happens when you run chkdisk.
[07:16] <xmetal> lol
[07:16] <BTCOxygen> Or have an Anti-virus installed.
[07:16] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, i never ran chkdsk through I'm running it now
[07:16] <floatingrain> And I'm sure an anti virus will delete rather than empty a file
[07:16] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: Maybe the anti-virus cleaned the file for you.
[07:17] <nikitha> i could get linux based oracle 11g it is 2gb of download and i do have setups of oracle 11g based of mswindows, so i still dependent of windows.
[07:17] <BTCOxygen> Like remove the virus content from a file.
[07:17] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, antiviruses don't do that, they move.
[07:17] <floatingrain> 1 undeinfedex files scanned!
[07:17] <floatingrain> "Recovering orphaned file test into directory file 570"
[07:18] <ocooel> Where can I paste a picture for some help..?
[07:18] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: Do you boot into Windows frequently ?
[07:19] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, Very rarely.
[07:19] <BTCOxygen> hmm
[07:19] <floatingrain> Through it broke after booting into windows :/
[07:19] <BTCOxygen> ahh
[07:19] <floatingrain> But then agani I don't restart it often
[07:19] <floatingrain> I usually suspend it, so I still suspect it may be an update :/
[07:19] <BTCOxygen> Then windows did something to the files.
[07:20] <floatingrain> hm :( - my private keys..
[07:20]  * floatingrain will look into file recovery programs
[07:20] <BTCOxygen> That might help.
[07:21] <babinlonston> ubuntu 12.04 lTS not getting Shutdown .. If im Shutting Down it , its Coming to Logon Screen  Each and every time same issue , and if i used to shutdown it using terminal init 0 its Shuting Down
[07:21] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: Why don't you remove windows and install Ubutnu without Wubi ?
[07:21] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, because believe it or not smoetimes I need to use windows.
[07:22] <xmetal> uh
[07:22] <ocooel> Keep getting this error when reloading synaptic. Can anybody help? Version Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6001965/
[07:22] <xmetal> dualboot
[07:22] <xmetal> :|
[07:22] <xmetal> what is wubi anyway ... installing linux through windows?
[07:23] <floatingrain> xmetal, i do dual boot!
[07:23] <floatingrain> fedora :(
[07:23] <xmetal> (i know a simple websearch would answer my question)
[07:23] <floatingrain> xmetal, apparently it installs linux as usual but as a file in your windows directory
[07:23] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-bare-metal.htm
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> wubi is best avoided like the black plague.
[07:23] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, yeah. i won't use it when I upgrade
[07:23] <floatingrain> but I don't plan on upgrading till 12.04 LTS support wears off.
[07:24] <xmetal> ok now i am confused
[07:24] <xmetal> lol
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> wubi installs ubuntu inside a file on your c:/ that windows then can boot to get to a ubuntu setup
[07:24] <dexterity> Do anyone know a good guide for putting nginx in front of an existing apache 2 configuration?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> its VERY fragile.
[07:24] <xmetal> is that "Lindows" still around?... i remember hearing about that on Techtv and how "just using "real linux" is better" YEARS AGO
[07:25] <floatingrain> again: I do not boot into windows. I boot into Ubuntu
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  not been  seen for ages by me
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  they had to rename it to linspire
[07:25] <xmetal> a simple dual boot would be easier
[07:25] <xmetal> then windows with linux on the C:\ parititon
[07:25] <xmetal> (if you ask mne)
[07:25] <xmetal> -n
[07:28] <ltsampros> Hello
[07:28] <floatingrain> Hi Dr ltsampros!
[07:28] <ltsampros> I'm on raring, have installed ia32-libs etc and I'm trying a custom built wine
[07:28] <ltsampros> however I need to install this python-gst0.10:i386
[07:29] <ltsampros> but apt says it's broken or that some the required packages have not been created
[07:29] <ltsampros> is there a way to solve this?
[07:31] <OerHeks> !find python-gst0.10
[07:31] <OerHeks> ltsampros, in python-gst0.10-dev i guess
[07:32] <ltsampros> you missed the i386 I guess,
[07:32] <klein2>  /set weechat.look.item_buffer_filter "⚑"
[07:33] <ltsampros> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/jbpDDW8g
[07:34] <kadd> !find gnome3
[07:34] <kadd> !find kmess
[07:34] <ltsampros> !find python-gst0.10:i386
[07:35] <auronandace> !msgthebot
[07:35] <OerHeks> ltsampros, should be there > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/i386/python-gst0.10  so how did you build wine?
[07:36] <ltsampros> OerHeks: default build instructions under a i386 chroot on a raring machine
[07:36] <vas> hi
[07:37] <reisio> vas: hiyo
[07:37] <Moony22> Does do-release-upgrade reinstall unity?
[07:38] <ltsampros> OerHeks: something is wrong with the dependencies
[07:38] <vas> hey how to install software from cd or flashdrive
[07:39] <ocooel> Hi. Synaptic keeps reloading and throwing up the same message. Can someone take a look and help me if there's a fix..? http://paste.opensuse.org/70691049
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, You mean does  distro upgrade reinstall unity?
[07:40] <Moony22> Yes it
[07:40] <Moony22> The command do-release-upgrade
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> vas:  what software?
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, Are you trying to fix a broken setup, a upgrade installs the version in that release.
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> if broken though that is not a good option.
[07:41] <Moony22> Wilee-nilee thank you
[07:41] <Moony22> Wait unity is broken but I want to upgrade anyway
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  so? :)  depends on how its broken
[07:41] <Tonysuprem> yo
[07:41] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, I would fix your setup first you may have problems upgrades are from working systems.
[07:42] <vas> i got some educational software in a cd, since i m new to linux or ubuntu...i donno how to install it
[07:42] <Moony22> Wilee-nilee I think it is because I installed unity from the experimental certified ppa
[07:42] <reisio> vas: what's it called?
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> !ppapurge | moondog
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> vas:  you are refering to some windows software?
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, Sorry that was for you
[07:43] <Moony22> Wilee-nilee, I have used ppa purge but accidently cancelled it when it asked me if I wanted to continue
[07:43] <Moony22> But now the ppa is gone although the unity from the ppa is still here
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, really well if it were me I would not rely on a upgrade to fix all this, but thats me, are you backed up?
[07:44] <minimec> ocooel: 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*.*' will probably do. Then load the sources again... 'sudo apt-get update' ...
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> I never upgrade anyway, but fresh install
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> or try removeing all of unity and reinstalling it.. but that may be a bit complex
[07:45] <vas> no its a linux software..its some developed software for Linux,i donno name of it...they gave it in a unnamed cd?
[07:45] <Moony22> Wilee-nilee I have just fresh installed raring but I decided to get saucy now
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> vas:  look at the files on the cd. and hope they made it obvious what to do.. or included a readme file
[07:45] <Moony22> So it will still be like  a fresh install
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, Its a development and on another channel, not supported here.
[07:46] <Moony22> Yeah but I was just originally asking here about the command in general.
[07:47] <Moony22> What channel by the way?
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, Sure, I'm just making sure you understand the parameters and limitations. ;)
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu+1 is saucy
[07:47] <lvxiang> 大家好，我来自中国
[07:47] <Moony22> Alright, I guess before I ask you much :p
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> !cn | lvxiang
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Saucy Salamander brings up such... weird images. ;)
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> vas:  talk in the channel.. and it totally depends on whats on the cd.
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> vas:  pastebin a listing of whats on the cd for the channel to see and check the apps homepage/support forums/guides/docs..
[07:53] <vas> dr_willis: there are folders like caspers ,install, isolinux ,preseed etx
 do that mean anything?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> means to me you really really should be reading the software's docs..
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> since those things are often part of a live cd you boot.
[07:55] <vas> sure i will do that thanku...:)
[07:57] <axgb> hi, I am trying to use MP3Blaster to play music, but it uses the wrong symbols, for example it uses the = instead of | for vertical line
[07:57] <ikonia> axgb: do you mean when you press the keys the wrong symbols come up ?
[07:57] <Moony22> Noone answers on ubuntu+1
[07:57] <axgb> no, it justs uses incorrect symbols for the boarders
[07:58] <Moony22> Does anyone know anything about saucy?
[07:58] <axgb> and also the volume buttons dont work
[07:58] <ikonia> Moony22: need to just wait
[07:58] <Moony22> But it is urgent
[07:58] <ikonia> Moony22: it can't be
[07:58] <Moony22> Yes because the output will go soon
[07:59] <Moony22> I can't remember it
[07:59] <Moony22> Let me write it
[07:59] <ikonia> Moony22: then you just have to wait - write it down, take a screen shot, photograph it
[07:59] <ikonia> Moony22: no, don't put it in here
[08:01] <ocooel> minimec: Thank you!!!
[08:01] <ocooel> minimec: I did still get this at the end of reloading sources - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002035/
[08:02] <Moony22> I did it ikonia
[08:05] <minimec> ocooel: Ok Then delete the files in the 'partial' directory too'
[08:05] <minimec> ocooel: 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*.*'
[08:08] <ocooel> minimec: In this order - sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*.* - sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*.* - sudo apt-get update..?
[08:10] <minimec> ocooel: The order is not important. You could also 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*'. That would delete * in the 'lists' folder, including the 'partial' folder.
[08:11] <kim79> hey
[08:13] <kim79> I have a question. What is it with Ubuntu future that many people talk about? some are even leaving ubuntu?
[08:14] <blazemore> !ot | kim79
[08:14] <ocooel> minimec: Terminal is now saying I can't remove lists* or partial* as there is no such file or directory.
[08:16] <minimec> ocooel: Well... I fyou deleted all the package list files, then 'sudo apt-get update' again, to load the 'new' ones
[08:16] <ocooel> minimec: This is bazaar - it's now working :-S
[08:16] <ocooel> minimec: something must have been down.
[08:17] <esing> Hi, if I stop webmin's service with: sudo stop webmin, will the iptables I configured with webmin firewall still be active?
[08:18] <ikonia> esing: webmin is not available on ubuntu
[08:18] <[Gentoo]> esing: check with iptables -L
[08:18] <blazemore> esing: Yes
[08:19] <ikonia> esing: where did you get webmin for ubuntu ?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> esing: webmin isnt supported here, nor is it advised in ubuntu
[08:19] <kim79> okey sorry
[08:20] <axgb> hi, all CLI based programs do not work when I have the computer full screen command line mod
[08:20] <esing> Good to know, thanks.  I can still see the rules after I stopped the service in iptables -L
[08:20] <ikonia> esing: where did you get webmin for ubuntu ?
[08:21] <axgb> vertical line changes to =
[08:21] <esing> ikonia, I added these repos: http://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge contrib   http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk/repository sarge contrib
[08:21] <blazemore> ikonia: They provide a repository
[08:21] <ikonia> esing: that's debian
[08:22] <ikonia> esing: what version of uubntu are you using that on ?
[08:23] <esing> ikonia, I did cat /etc/debian_version , and then I followed the instruction for wheezy/lts 12.04
[08:23] <esing> ikonia, I use ubuntu server lts 12.04
[08:24] <ikonia> esing: that really can't be good
[08:24] <ikonia> esing: can you post the output of uname -a please.
[08:25] <esing> 3.2.0-51-generic #77-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 24 20:18:19 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:25] <ikonia> esing: and you're using wheezy packages against that ?
[08:26] <ikonia> (I know they say it's compatible, I'm reading the docs now)
[08:27] <esing> ikonia, I only used webmin's wheezy repo
[08:28] <esing> The other repos in /etc/apt/sources.list are all precise repos
[08:28] <ikonia> esing: I understand that, it's just a bit worry that it's a sloppy process, on a product already filled with security holes, very concerning
[08:29] <k1l_> !webmin
[08:29] <esing> Is there a good alternative for webmin on ubuntu?
[08:30] <axgb_> hi, when I have full screen command line open, it uses incorrect symbols
[08:30] <axgb_> for cli programs, for example, it replaced the vertical line with =
[08:31] <axgb_> and the horizontal line gets replaced with a L shaped symbol
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | esing
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> esing: or use SSH, like good admins do
[08:31] <esing> ikonia, Also if I stop webmin's service and the iptables I configured with webmin persist, then I would have avoided any security holes from webmins server?
[08:32] <ikonia> esing: hard to say, as webmin can set up services very poor - so stopping the service won't undo the config it's put in place
[08:32] <esing> ActionParsnip, With ssh you mean configuring it with just "sudo iptables ..."?
[08:32] <helixp> hi. is there any way to take away permissions to write to specific files in user's home directory? chmod 444 file didn't work
[08:32] <[Gentoo]> esing: maybe you need to read up on some stuff
[08:33] <ikonia> helixp: if they are not the file owner
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> esing: yea, like its supposed to be done
[08:33] <esing> Good to know, thanks
[08:34] <ffio> is it safe to delete /home/xfy/.local/Trash folder ?
[08:34] <[Gentoo]> ffio: yes
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> helixp: chmod -w username file     use sudo if the file is not owned by your user and you are tweaking another user;s data
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> ffio: if you install trash-cli   you can run:  trash-empty
[08:35] <ffio> [Gentoo]: ok
[08:35] <ffio> ActionParsnip: weired thing is that my trash can is empty but still it shows the files in that folder.
[08:36] <ffio> ActionParsnip: after doing trash-empty the files are still there.
[08:37] <[Gentoo]> ffio: does manually deleting them as user work?
[08:40] <ffio> [Gentoo]: while deleting manually its taking a long time and yet the files are to be deleted.
[08:40] <[Gentoo]> im pretty sure Trash is supposed to be in .local/share/Trash
[08:40] <[Gentoo]> not .local/Trash   unless its different
[08:41] <DJones> !trash
[08:41] <Skizu> Hey I'm looking to backing up some databases and files nightly, I was thinking what I want is a cron job?
[08:41] <[Gentoo]> maybe the program is looking in the wrong place
[08:41] <esing> Do you recommend to also configure iptables for my local system, though there's a router with a firewall between the local system and the internet?
[08:41] <DJones> [Gentoo]: Spot on according to the factoid
[08:41] <[Gentoo]> ffio: thats probably it then
[08:41] <ffio> it's there in .local/share/Trash
[08:41] <blazemore> Skizu: Write a script that does exactly what you want, and then set up a cron job to run it nightly
[08:41] <[Gentoo]> ffio: ah ok
[08:41] <Skizu> blazemore: I bash script is it called?
[08:41] <arti> What to do when tcp port is in use(aka i can't bind to it) but nothing is using that port (atleas netstat doesn't show anything)?
[08:42] <blazemore> Skizu: Yes just a list of commands
[08:42] <ffio> it's occupying more than 20 GB of data
[08:42] <blazemore> !sudo | arti If the port is <1024 you need to be root to do it
[08:42] <noooooooooooooob> hi, can i disable global menu from auto hiding ? i use ubuntu 13.04
[08:42] <arti> port is 10666 so it should work without sudo
[08:43] <arti> and sudo doesn't help
[08:43] <blazemore> noooooooooooooob: It is currently not possible
[08:43] <Skizu> blazemore: Say I've multiple databases (mysql) what would be the easiest thing to do? Make a backup users with read access to all databases and then some how dump everything it has access to?
[08:43] <blazemore> arti: Could you please pastebin the full error message
[08:44] <blazemore> Skizu: Take a look here http://www.linuxbrigade.com/back-up-all-of-your-mysql-databases-nightly/
[08:44] <arti> blazemore, error is "socket.error: [Errno 98] Address already in use" theres nothing more
[08:44] <noooooooooooooob> thx blazemore , fallback session + global menu plugin desn't run smoothly
[08:44] <Skizu> blazemore: Thanks
[08:44] <blazemore> arti: What are you running to produce that error though?
[08:45] <arti> blazemore, python script i wrote but same error happens when for example using "nc -l 10666"
[08:46] <blazemore> Is it only that port, arti ?
[08:46] <arti> yes only that port doesn't work
[08:47] <blazemore> arti: What's the output of "sudo netstat -a | grep 10666"
[08:48] <babinlonston> Hi How to update my ubuntu-desktop
[08:48] <blazemore> babinlonston: Use the Update Manager
[08:48] <babinlonston> But now its not loginning in
[08:48] <blazemore> babinlonston: Are you getting an error?
[08:48] <babinlonston> its reaching only upto logon screen and i want to update it from other PC throught ssh
[08:49] <blazemore> babinlonston: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:49] <babinlonston> no error every time i shutdown it wont get shutdonw
[08:49] <babinlonston> this 2 commands alrady did si
[08:49] <babinlonston> sir no use
[08:49] <blazemore> babinlonston: That's how you update it
[08:50] <babinlonston> from other PC i did ssh to this pc and updated
[08:50] <blazemore> arti: What's the output of "sudo netstat -a | grep 10666"
[08:51] <arti> blazemore, it ran for quite some time, output is: "tcp        0  65161 Merirahu6:10666         <IP_ADDRESS>:60548    FIN_WAIT1"
[08:52] <arti> it seems to be unfinished connection ?
[08:52] <blazemore> arti: your python script is still running
[08:52] <blazemore> arti: killall -9 python
[08:55] <Skizu> How do I update the db used for locate?
[08:55] <arti> blazemore, killall didnt work
[08:56] <blazemore> Skizu: updatedb
[08:56] <blazemore> arti: sudo ps aux | grep p[y]thon
[08:56] <DJones> Skizu: sudo updatedb
[08:56] <Skizu> blazemore: DJones Thanks
[08:57] <arti> blazemore, it returns nothing
[08:58] <blazemore> arti: How do you mean "killall didn't work"?
[08:58] <blazemore> arti: If it didn't say anything it means it worked
[08:58] <arti> blazemore, port is still in use
[08:59] <Skizu> What does awk and hostname do in ssh?
[08:59] <blazemore> Skizu: awk is a program
[09:00] <blazemore> Skizu: hostname is the name of the system you want to connect to
[09:00] <streulma> hello, even if I boot native or with VMware, I find things not crisp and clear in Ubuntu. What is the best setting for fonts in Ubuntu?
[09:00] <[Gentoo]> streulma: for an lcd you want rgb AA, try playing with the hinting levels
[09:00] <Skizu> blazemore: thanks I'll look into what they do :), the dbs aren't on the local machine so I can't use hostname (Reference to the script you mentioned)
[09:00] <blazemore> arti: What is the output of "sudo netstat -p | grep 10666"
[09:00] <Xentinel> I'm trying to auto mount a partition to ~/storage and while that has succeeded, it's mounted as root, I've tried adding uid=1000 to fstab, but ubuntu keeps telling me to shove it at boot
[09:01] <blazemore> Skizu: use "localhost" or just change it not to use ssh
[09:04] <blazemore> Xentinel: What Ubuntu version are you using? And is it an ntfs partition? Can you please pastebin your /etc/fstab file ?
[09:04] <Xentinel> blazemore, it's an ext 4 partition on 13.04
[09:04] <arti> blazemore, "sudo netstat -p | grep 10666" returns nothing
[09:05] <Skizu> blazemore: I know this isn't the place to ask but, making a backup user, any suggestions on what permissions it needs?
[09:05] <blazemore> Xentinel: You need to make sure the mount-point is accesible by more than just root
[09:05] <blazemore> Skizu: It needs read permissions on files it is going to back up, and write permission to the backup location
[09:06] <Skizu> blazemore: Sorry, mysql user
[09:06] <blazemore> Skizu: It needs read permission on the databases it is going to back up
[09:06] <blazemore> Is there a #mysql channel?
[09:06] <Skizu> blazemore: Good point I'll join that :)
[09:08] <arti> blazemore, "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_orphan_retries" killed that 10666 port, now it is working, thanks for the help
[09:09] <k1l_> !away > CyberJacob
[09:30] <streulma> [Gentoo]: My Ubuntu is looking bright now... If I use the Adwaita Gnome3 default theme
[09:35] <skyroverr> I have an old ubuntu 12.04 live usb, my ram has errors on it, i was wondering if the ubuntu kernel on the live usb already has the bad ram patch designed to ignore the ram errors, since i am gonna have to bypass the bad ram areas using memtest and grub memmap options.
[09:38] <compdoc> skyroverr, does memtest always show the same ram addresses are bad? seems a lot of work
[09:40] <skyroverr> compdoc, at times, yes.
[09:41] <skyroverr> But there are around more than 100 errors that memtest detects...
[09:42] <compdoc> skyroverr, on some ram, written on the sticker, you need to set the voltage higher than normal. if you dont, you can get random failuers
[09:42] <compdoc> failures
[09:42] <ffio> what's the commadn we use to check the details of our hardware, i don't remember exactly it was something like lspci
[09:42] <skyroverr> Um
[09:42] <DJones> ffio: hwinfo/lspci/lsusb
[09:43] <skyroverr> Oh yes, that one.
[09:43] <skyroverr> And dmesg too.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> ffio: sudo lshw | less
[09:43] <babinlonston> Wireless not working in ubuntu 12.04 lTS
[09:44] <gvo> babinlonston: laptop?
[09:44] <babinlonston> yes laptop Sony vaio
[09:44] <gvo> babinlonston: what chip?
[09:44] <ffio> thanks DJones ActionParsnip :)
[09:44] <skyroverr>  compdoc, my main question is tht does the ubuntu kernel on that usb has that bad ram patch?
[09:45] <babinlonston> gvo its worked morning and now its not working now
[09:45] <itDany83> Hi
[09:45] <streulma> babinlonston: please give more information place
[09:45] <compdoc> skyroverr, no idea. Ive never tried to map out bad ram. its best to buy good ram and forget about it
[09:45] <streulma> babinlonston: do, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:46] <skyroverr> compdoc, err, that wasn't the answer i was looking for, but thanks anyways.
[09:47] <compdoc> skyroverr, does the ram require a higher voltage?
[09:47] <thomnico>
[09:47] <babinlonston> streulma: 3.2.0-23-generic
[09:48] <skyroverr> compdoc, its an old ddr2 5300 running on 1.8V.
[09:48] <streulma> babinlonston: do my command in a terminal
[09:48] <babinlonston> streulma: today morning its works and after a update and ugrade its not working
[09:48] <compdoc> sounds normal voltage
[09:48] <babinlonston> yes command in a terminal and hearder already have the latest version and not installed now
[09:48] <skyroverr> Yeah.
[09:49] <blazemore> babinlonston: Does it work when you boot from an older kernel?
[09:49] <babinlonston> Not tried
[09:49] <streulma> babinlonston: try, sudo apt-get install dkms
[09:49] <blazemore> Also, check there's not a hardware switch on the laptop to enable/disable wireless
[09:50] <babinlonston> streulma: installed
[09:50] <streulma> babinlonston: what it did? installed some things and probed dkms with kernel ?
[09:50] <babinlonston> blazemore: its Enabled in Laptop
[09:51] <blazemore> babinlonston: When you say it's not working, are there any networks showing up in network manager?
[09:51] <skyroverr> compdoc, ddr2 modules r a scarce resource these days, hence i asked about the bad ram patch.. :) anyways, thanks.
[09:51] <babinlonston> no just installed
[09:51] <babinlonston> yes its showingup in network manager sir
[09:51] <blazemore> babinlonston: So what happens when you try to connect to your network?
[09:52] <bibi23> I have 2 domains pointing to my server, I have apache installed and it listens to port 80, is it possible to redirect the second domain to another port BEFORE the request  is catched by apache?
[09:52] <compdoc> skyroverr, I have a bunch of ddr2. maybe I can get rich selling them on ebay
[09:52] <blazemore> bibi23: You could use something like nginx
[09:52] <ikonia> bibi23: why do you want to do that ?
[09:52] <blazemore> bibi23: But you do need a web server to parse the HTTP header
[09:52] <babinlonston> in All Settings there is Network in that if i click on ON under Wireless , its Switching back to off not stable
[09:52] <gvo> babinlonston: I assume you've powercycled at least once.
[09:52] <skyroverr> compdoc, hahahaha!
[09:53] <babinlonston> ya its already 3 times did
[09:53] <skyroverr> Bye!
[09:53] <bibi23> ikonia: I want to use node.js for the second website, there is no need for a webserver with node.js, the program directly listen to a specific port
[09:53] <gvo> babinlonston: I'd be tempted to remove network manager and install wicd.  That's what worked for my old compaq that wouldnt work on 12.04
[09:54] <babinlonston> oh then what can i do to work
[09:54] <bibi23> ikonia: but I don't want the website to be accessed with "http://www.website.com:3000" for ex.
[09:54] <ikonia> bibi23: you could try re-directing it with iptables using the target domain as a pattern match
[09:54] <gvo> babinlonston: sorry?
[09:54] <Dynamicwork> well
[09:54] <Dynamicwork> oh
[09:54] <ikonia> bibi23: could you not re-direct it internally within apache, eg: mod-rewrite, and a namebased virtual server ?
[09:54] <babinlonston> How can i make it to work
[09:55] <gvo> babinlonston: I don't understand the question.  I just removed network manager and installed wicd.
[09:56] <gvo> babinlonston: That may or may not fix your problem, but it did for me.
[09:56] <babinlonston> ok going to reformat
[09:56] <babinlonston> thanks sir
[09:56] <bibi23> ikonia: yes I think so, as it's an unneeded step I wanted to do it before apache, is it complicated to do this with iptables?
[09:56] <gvo> reformat?  Drastic
[09:57] <ikonia> bibi23: not complicated, but you have to get the rule/pattern match clear
[09:58] <streulma> babinlonston, with Ubuntu version are you using ?
[09:58] <streulma> arggg, bad English for me today :(
[09:58] <babinlonston>  streulma: its ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:58] <gvo> babinlonston: 12.04
[09:58] <babinlonston> yes
[09:59] <streulma> babinlonston, is the notebook new? Then try a higher version
[09:59] <babinlonston> no its 3 years old
[09:59] <streulma> babinlonston gvo, I have a Macbook Pro from 2012-2013 and 12.04 is not working :(
[09:59] <gvo> streulma: It worked last week.
[09:59] <Tonyo> hi
[10:00] <ikonia> bibi23: may I ask why you want to do this before apache, as the name-based-virtual-host and mod-rewrite is pretty much exactly what this is situation was made for
[10:00] <reisio> hi
[10:00] <billywannabelal> hi
[10:00] <streulma> hi reisio and ikonia :)
[10:00] <reisio> hi :)
[10:00] <Tonyo> pl
[10:00] <Tonyo> ;)
[10:00] <Tonyo> hi
[10:00] <karlw> hey.. ive jumped out to tty after my unity frozen on me. Is there some trick to make it come back i could try?
[10:01] <babinlonston> streulma: oh its new na so what
[10:01] <gvo> streulma: it stopped working.  babinlonston  did you update the software before the network card quit working?
[10:01] <blazemore> karlw: sudo service lightdm restart
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> karlw  alt arrow left
[10:01] <babinlonston> yes i updated
[10:01] <Tonyo> sped test?
[10:01] <karlw> Monkey: That didnt do it
[10:01] <Tonyo> speed test?
[10:02] <karlw> blaze ill try that
[10:02] <gvo> So is this the time line?  wifi working; update software; wifi not working  ??
[10:02] <Tonyo> try again:D
[10:03] <bibi23> ikonia: because this would do like 2 webservers chained, even though I don't have high traffic constraints it feels like it's  not optimal
[10:03] <gvo> babinlonston: So is this the time line? wifi working; update software; wifi not working ??
[10:03] <ikonia> bibi23: it's not two web servers chained, that's the whole point
[10:03] <ikonia> bibi23: it's one apache instance - one binary, one memorg segment
[10:03] <Tonyo> ah ok
[10:03] <ikonia> bibi23: thats why I'm suggesting it's better to do it at the apache level rather than before as it's all internal, logged, smooth and clean
[10:03] <Tonyo> oh ah
[10:04] <Tonyo> apache server?
[10:04] <gvo> karlw: sudo service lightdm restart as root??