[07:26] <tritium> (Intel)
[07:26] <bob2> just avoid broadcom and you should be fine
[07:28] <Pistahh> bob2: could you recommend a good-working PCI wireless card? (not chipset..)
[07:28] <scribbles> http://www.big-boys.com/articles/drifting.html
[07:28] <scribbles> whenever I try to view that
[07:28] <scribbles> I see the drag bar, then it all goes gray
[07:28] <scribbles> I've installed the multimedia codecs
[07:28] <scribbles> and what nots
[07:29] <scribbles> is it a firefox plugin thats missing?
[07:29] <wickedpuppy> i got error about mplayer plugin
[07:30] <breakthestate> is having trouble finding out which brands of pci card manufacturers use the ipw2200 chipset
[07:30] <wickedpuppy> breakthestate, google ?
[07:32] <breakthestate> wickedpuppy: thx, i'm trying right now, but i prefer the advice of ubuntu community when it comes to buying hardware, and i'm using breezy so i want to make sure the advice i see in a wiki is up to date.  therefore, i ask on irc
[07:32] <mae> when is breezy slated for final release?
[07:32] <wickedpuppy> mae 13th
[07:32] <mae> nice :)
[07:32] <calc> breakthestate: intel
[07:33] <calc> breakthestate: i think... only intel
[07:33] <calc> breakthestate: its the wireless chipset to make centrino platform
[07:33] <ubuntu_> !ntfs
[07:33] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[07:33] <calc> breakthestate: there is 2100b 2200bg 2915abg (and maybe a few others)
[07:33] <Bazkaz> Ok I'm back
[07:34] <breakthestate> calc: aren't those all internal cards?
[07:34] <calc> breakthestate: yes all mini-pci
[07:34] <Bazkaz> the world is already a much friendlier place
[07:34] <breakthestate> oh, i'm looking for normal pci, but maybe i have the name wrong, the kind you stick into the side of your laptop?
[07:34] <crimsun> (pcmcia)
[07:35] <breakthestate> ah hah
[07:35] <calc> breakthestate: pcmcia/cardbus/pcie
[07:35] <breakthestate> calc, crimsun: thx
[07:35] <calc> depending on how new your laptop is
[07:35] <calc> i don't know that any of the intel chipsets are available in any form factor other than internal mini-pci
[07:35] <calc> its possible but highly unlikely
[07:36] <calc> i put a 2915abg into my amd64 laptop
[07:36] <breakthestate> so how about breezy for pcmcia, i have this atheros that won't work
[07:36] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: Thanks for all the help. The restart did it. Much easier "installation" this time.
[07:36] <wickedpuppy> okie ..
[07:36] <wickedpuppy> np
[07:36] <calc> breakthestate: no idea never used atheros
[07:38] <speel> hey any one knows if breezy will have native ipod support?
[07:40] <crimsun> speel: "native"?
[07:41] <Navatiu> hi all
[07:43] <speel> Bah i mean like plug it in and somthing comes up to help you import songs to it
[07:43] <crimsun> speel: not that I'm aware. You'll need to install gtkpod or something from universe.3
[07:43] <crimsun> -3
[07:43] <iiiears___> Hello! :)
[07:44] <Navatiu> i just ordered ubuntu linux to see how good it is.. only i touched so far are SuSe 9.0 and it seem okay though.
[07:44] <speel> ah ok thanks
[07:46] <iiiears___> Navatiu - Ubuntu is awesome. :)   so many choices Gnome or KDE "K"Ubuntu
[07:46] <iiiears___> Preconfigured packages for XFCE/4
[07:47] <iiiears___> the best part of it all is the helpful people here.
[07:48] <glick> it sucks that i cant get interactive C working in linux :(
[07:49] <glick> when will gmail stop with their stupid gmail invites and just open gmail up
[07:49] <iiiears___> nVidia-GLX seems to slow down after my machine has been on a few hours. Would using drivers from the nvidia site help this?
[07:49] <glick> ive got 100 invites left!
[07:50] <glick> anyone want gmail!
[07:50] <PassionLim> how can i install a program from source using apt-get?
[07:50] <glick> whoooo
[07:50] <iiiears___> glick - lol
[07:50] <PassionLim> I've got 100 invites left, too!
[07:50] <bob2> PassionLim: e.g.?
[07:50] <coobra> me to :)
[07:50] <glick> i know ill send an invite to someon at gmail
[07:51] <PassionLim> I just wanna compile to install package.
[07:51] <coobra> well 100 x 50 or somting :P
[07:51] <cafuego_> Yeah, keep the invites and start using gmailraidfs
[07:51] <bob2> PassionLim: and the package is...?
[07:51] <PassionLim> acpi-support
[07:51] <bob2> which is already in ubuntu
[07:51] <cafuego_> iiiears___: No.
[07:51] <bob2> and is a set of shell scripts
[07:51] <iiiears___> Thanks cafuego. :)
[07:51] <PassionLim> but new version 0.43 is not available.
[07:51] <cafuego_> iiiears___: Are you using the xrender extensions
[07:52] <QMario> Nalioth, now I have this error:
[07:52] <crimsun> PassionLim: patience, it'll appear soon enough.
[07:52] <PassionLim> :)
[07:52] <glick> whats gmailraidfs?
[07:52] <iiiears___> cafuego - i don't know what those are? aceleration?
[07:52] <QMario> Good night cafuego and bob2!!! :)
[07:52] <cafuego_> iiiears___: transparency.
[07:52] <iiiears___> cafuego - Yes, on the desktop.
[07:53] <cafuego_> iiiears___: They contain memory leaks, so that's what will be causing the slowdown.
[07:53] <iiiears___> cafuego - you are a genius. - (turning off transparency now.)
[07:55] <Navatiu> um.. i wonder if ubuntu has lastest python 2.4 in it?
[07:55] <Navatiu> shrug
[07:55] <Navatiu> i am not veteran linux user yet though heh
[07:55] <iiiears___> cafuego - would using an image instead of transparency cause the same problem? same libraries?
[07:55] <Navatiu> i been using SuSe for a month and went back to window 98(i never went upgrade ever)
[07:56] <poningru> Navatiu: I will go with yes
[07:56] <poningru> Navatiu: 2.4.1
[07:56] <Navatiu> ok thanks
[07:56] <poningru> but obviously if the new one came out
[07:56] <poningru> it will be in breazy
[07:56] <Navatiu> athough i love one thing about linux, less crash though.
[07:57] <poningru> Navatiu: what dont you like about linux?
[07:57] <tzapachuau> how do i see a list of softwares tht i can install with apt-get ... using wild cards
[07:57] <Navatiu> well... heh, permission on console... i have to get used to it. heh
[07:57] <poningru> Navatiu: I guess, but you can always just use the root user
[07:57] <Hobbsee> tzapachuau: use synaptic?  there's probably a command for it though, but synaptic will give you descriptions of everything too
[07:57] <Navatiu> anyway i try to use Konsole for awhile, it sudden frozen for some reason i dont know why.. it work fine on TTY console without crash.
[07:57] <poningru> but I prefer sudo
[07:58] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:58] <iiiears___> Navatiu - 98 has hardware drivers sharing kernel space in ram. - one hardware hiccup crashes the whole machine.  - linux and to some extent XP have a much better handle on things
[07:58] <Navatiu> strange konsole
[07:58] <tzapachuau> !help
[07:58] <Navatiu> ah i see iiears
[07:58] <scribbles> E: Package azureus has no installation candidate
[07:58] <scribbles> anyone get that?
[07:58] <poningru> scribbles: it sure does
[07:58] <poningru> I have it installed right now
[07:58] <tzapachuau> !tell apt-get tzapachuau
[07:58] <scribbles> heh then whats the problem
[07:59] <Hobbsee> !apt-get
[07:59] <ubotu> methinks apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[07:59] <scribbles> sudo apt-get install azureus
[07:59] <epiloc> gtkpod cant connect to my ipod.  I changed the default mount path to media:/sda2 (where my machine picks up the ipod) but gtkpod still doesnt connect... any ipod users here running gtkpod successfully?
[07:59] <BlankB> tzapachuau: apt-cache search packagename
[07:59] <tzapachuau> thanks BlankB
[07:59] <tzapachuau> can i use wild cards with it?
[07:59] <BlankB> regex wildcards
[08:00] <poningru> scribbles: you sure you are using the latest backports?
[08:00] <scribbles> I commented them out
[08:00] <poningru> err the official backports
[08:00] <scribbles> because the mirrirmax ones are down
[08:00] <scribbles> are there new ones?
[08:00] <poningru> !tell scribbles about backports
[08:01] <ronalde> the folders in one imap-account in evolution seem empty (but aren't)... any clues
[08:01] <scribbles> I'm using breezy
[08:01] <scribbles> shoul di just change hoary to breezy
[08:01] <poningru> scribbles: nm
[08:01] <poningru> scribbles: what do you mean?
[08:01] <poningru> wait how did you start using breazy?
[08:01] <poningru> ronalde: ctrl+h in nautilus
[08:01] <epiloc> anyone in here help me out with my ipod?
[08:01] <poningru> ronalde: its most likely that they are hidden
[08:02] <scribbles> well in the msg I got
[08:02] <scribbles> it told me the link to add
[08:02] <scribbles> should I just change where it says hoary to breezy
[08:02] <tzapachuau> does anyone have successfully installed vlc-pluggin for esd
[08:02] <dell500> anyone know the port for gallery server?
[08:03] <poningru> scribbles: yeah
[08:03] <poningru> oops
[08:03] <poningru> hmm hold on
[08:04] <qsrv> hi
[08:04] <qsrv> any thinkpad users here?
[08:05] <cafuego_> Just ask the question, don't hold polls.
[08:06] <qsrv> heh, sorry
[08:06] <qsrv> I'm trying to get ubuntu to work on my t43 thinkpad
[08:06] <poningru> scribbles: nope just do what the msg said
[08:06] <qsrv> first hing I did after installing 5.10 was to get the 686 kernel
[08:07] <iiiears___> rofl - nVidia 6600GT 3.4 FPS.   Hehe.   -   I need a command to clean up ram after killing/restarting gnome-panel.
[08:07] <neotrophy> Xserver upgrade for Breezy is safe now?
[08:07] <qsrv> but when I use it, the network is really unstable
[08:07] <tzapachuau> i cant play a VCD file with my totem movie player
[08:07] <tzapachuau> can someone help me
[08:07] <scribbles> poningru, it doesn't need to be breezy-backports?
[08:07] <qsrv> even though I see no errors in the logs
[08:07] <lemics_> get vlc player
[08:07] <greg> could someone here help me with authentication to seveas repo? Perhaps seveas
[08:07] <tzapachuau> here were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/tzapachuau/Desktop/Mapuia%26Johana.MPG", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[08:07] <poningru> scribbles: when they say hoary-backports they mean the new stuff for breazy
[08:07] <scribbles> AHHHH
[08:07] <poningru> err from breazy
[08:08] <Navatiu> vlc player for linux? ah right i forgot about it. :)
[08:08] <scribbles> thx poningru
[08:08] <poningru> np
[08:08] <qsrv> so that's the first problem : network is periodically disonnecting. I'm using the tg3 driver
[08:09] <padmawan> tzapachuau: use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[08:09] <BlankB> qsrv: what do you mean by disconnecting?
[08:10] <tzapachuau> padmawan,  how do i get that
[08:10] <tzapachuau> okay
[08:10] <tzapachuau> apt-get
[08:10] <tzapachuau> :)
[08:11] <qsrv> well, I connect
[08:11] <padmawan> tzapachuau: it's in universe
[08:12] <MadpilotPPC> !tell tzapachuau about restricted
[08:12] <MadpilotPPC> tzapachuau, totem-zine info at the URL you just got from ubotu...
[08:12] <qsrv> then for example try to download a few packages and it all stops. DNS is not responding, can't even ping anything
[08:12] <CaiN_SA> guys, which kernel must i install to give my amd 64 pc 64bit support ?
[08:12] <poningru> CaiN_SA: you have to use all 64 bit software
[08:12] <bob2> CaiN_SA: have you installed the amd64 port of ubuntu?
[08:12] <BlankB> when it does that do an 'ifconfig' command and see if there are any errors on the interface.
[08:13] <neotrophy> Anyone know where I can get a deb transcode for AMD64?  It's not in the repository in the restricted formats section of the wiki
[08:13] <tzapachuau> thanks
[08:13] <CaiN_SA> bob2, no i want to know which packages i must install to make it 64bit ready
[08:14] <qsrv> ok, I'll try that
[08:14] <poningru> CaiN_SA: the thing is just installing the kernel is not going to work
[08:14] <bob2> CaiN_SA: that's not how the world works
[08:14] <poningru> you have to have the entire software package in 64bit
[08:14] <bob2> CaiN_SA: if you want to run the amd64 port on your machine, that's what you need to install
[08:14] <CaiN_SA> sigh bob2
[08:14] <poningru> err entire OS
[08:14] <bob2> CaiN_SA: istalling a 64-bit amd64 kernel on i386 does not do anything about your applications
[08:15] <CaiN_SA> its debian based
[08:15] <CaiN_SA> if i install the correct apps
[08:15] <CaiN_SA> it will make it support 64bit
[08:15] <CaiN_SA> so i need more than kernel
[08:15] <neotrophy> Is there an easy(ish) way to get all of the 32 bit packages to install, but under lib32?
[08:15] <CaiN_SA> like what ?
[08:15] <Agrajag> no, you need EVERYTHING to be 64-bit
[08:15] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no, please stop
[08:15] <bob2> CaiN_SA: this is not how it works
[08:16] <bob2> CaiN_SA: if you want all your applications to be amd64 binaries, you need to install the amd64 port
[08:16] <Navatiu> 64-bit wont work on 1386 machine.
[08:16] <bob2> neotrophy: no
[08:16] <CaiN_SA> bob2, lol
[08:16] <Navatiu> i386 rather
[08:16] <CaiN_SA> ok so you say ubuntu does everything 6 times
[08:16] <bob2> neotrophy: basically everything that is in the i386 portion of the archive is also in the amd64
[08:16] <neotrophy> I didn't think so... was just wondering :)
[08:16] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no
[08:16] <CaiN_SA> since they got all those version
[08:16] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no
[08:17] <CaiN_SA> i dont use ubuntu
[08:17] <CaiN_SA> i work for impi
[08:17] <poningru> bob2: I think it would be better to point them toward a doc than explaining everything
[08:17] <Navatiu> impi?
[08:17] <neotrophy> There are a few things missing, but I think I've got most of them now.  Had great fun with the flash plugin though :)
[08:17] <CaiN_SA> and was just wondering if there was an easy way
[08:17] <CaiN_SA> of making a 64bit version
[08:17] <bob2> CaiN_SA: you appear to be very confused
[08:17] <CaiN_SA> impilinux as ing marks new company
[08:17] <bob2> CaiN_SA: do you know what the difference between an amd64 executable and an i386 one is?
[08:17] <scribbles> poningru: W: GPG error: http://mirror.noreply.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CFF71CB3AFA44BDD
[08:18] <bob2> scribbles: gpg --recv-key CFF71CB3AFA44BDD ; gpg --export CFF71CB3AFA44BDD | sudo apt-key add -
[08:18] <scribbles> thx bob, can you explain that?
[08:18] <neotrophy> I can't find transcode for AMD64 either
[08:18] <Navatiu> sigh
[08:19] <bob2> scribbles: gets the key. imports it into apt.
[08:19] <bob2> so apt doesn't complain about not having it
[08:19] <Navatiu> 64-bit appilication will work on 64-bit machine like amd64. it wont work on i386 machine though.
[08:19] <bob2> assuming you trust that key, but you probably have no way to check
[08:19] <scribbles> gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/stephen/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run
[08:19] <CaiN_SA> bob2, ok what you are saying is : ubuntu team recompiles everything with 64bit support.
[08:19] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no
[08:20] <scribbles> gpg: no keyserver known (use option --keyserver)
[08:20] <scribbles> gpg: keyserver receive failed: bad URI
[08:20] <scribbles> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
[08:20] <scribbles> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[08:20] <bob2> scribbles: stop pasting crap
[08:20] <scribbles> sorry
[08:20] <Navatiu> heh
[08:20] <CaiN_SA> then what bob2 cos your making no sence
[08:20] <AngryParsley> why does breezy come with an old copy of the java runtime environment?
[08:20] <bob2> scribbles: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net ...
[08:20] <bob2> CaiN_SA: because you don't seem to understand what an architecture is in Linux
[08:20] <CaiN_SA> AngryParsley, cos that is FREE java
[08:20] <bob2> CaiN_SA: ubuntu compiles each binary package for each architecture
[08:20] <CaiN_SA> thats what i asked
[08:20] <CaiN_SA> and you said no
[08:20] <bob2> CaiN_SA: once for powerpc, once for ia-64, once for i386, once for hppa, once for amd64
[08:21] <TokenBad> you can get firefox from apt-get right?
[08:21] <epiloc> ill try one more time... can anyone here help me with gtkpod?
[08:21] <AngryParsley> CaiN_SA: why can't I get JRE1.5?
[08:21] <CaiN_SA> ok bob2
[08:21] <bob2> TokenBad: it's installed by default
[08:21] <sn0n> TokenBad, firefox is default
[08:21] <AngryParsley> I don't care about free, I installed the win32 codecs
[08:21] <poningru> TokenBad: yeah
[08:21] <TokenBad> I know but on a machine that isn't
[08:21] <bob2> TokenBad: then reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:21] <TokenBad> a version of linux that it isn't
[08:21] <sn0n> TokenBad, i believe that firefox is a ubuntu-base
[08:21] <sn0n> so it is
[08:21] <scribbles> bob2: it said "Go Ahead and Type Your Message"
[08:21] <poningru> angeloo: you can get it
[08:21] <neotrophy> CaiN_SA: It's easier if you just think of the IA64 or AMD64 as a completely different processor.  1 that happens to emulate an IA32 processor very, very well
[08:21] <poningru> err
[08:21] <poningru> AngryParsley: you can get it
[08:21] <CaiN_SA> bob2, so if i want to make 64 bit version : dpkg -l , and make new breezy ( 64 bit ) and make sure all thos apps are installed ?
[08:21] <bob2> TokenBad: if you're not using ubuntu, you need to ask somewhere else
[08:21] <AngryParsley> so... is there anywhere I can find a deb of JRE1.5?
[08:22] <AngryParsley> poningru: where?
[08:22] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no, stop saying "64 bit"
[08:22] <poningru> AngryParsley: its in the reps
[08:22] <iiiears___>
[08:22] <iiiears___>
[08:22] <Agrajag> CaiN_SA: it doesn't work that way
[08:22] <bob2> iiiears___: no
[08:22] <AngryParsley> poningru: which one?
[08:22] <poningru> !tell AngryParsley about java
[08:22] <iiiears___> Oops - excuse me - (cats!)
[08:22] <bob2> scribbles: dude, the ... meant "replace with what I said before"
[08:22] <Navatiu> heh iiears
[08:22] <Razor-X> LUFS module is being stupid
[08:22] <bob2> CaiN_SA: "64 bit" is meaningless in this context
[08:22] <Hobbsee> poningru: jre 1.5 is no longer in repositories, it got taken out
[08:22] <TokenBad> I am using ubuntu
[08:22] <Navatiu> 'dog eat my papers' excuse, now it's cat 'cat did it, not me! so nya nya' :)
[08:23] <poningru> oops did not know that
[08:23] <poningru> Hobbsee: ic
[08:23] <bob2> CaiN_SA: if your question is "How do I convert an i386 install to an amd64 one", the answer is "reinstall"
[08:23] <CaiN_SA> bob2, ok IA64 ok
[08:23] <bob2> CaiN_SA: they are different architectures
[08:23] <CaiN_SA> bob2, whqat
[08:23] <TokenBad> or kubuntu..but anyway...I was just wondering if by default firefox was getable from apt-get
[08:23] <Agrajag> IA64 is not the same thing as AMD64
[08:23] <CaiN_SA> becoz i dont have ubuntu do i
[08:23] <bob2> TokenBad: yes, of course
[08:23] <bob2> CaiN_SA: this is how every OS works
[08:23] <Razor-X> rewrite "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/build/include/linux/modversions.h": Permission denied at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 87 -- what would cause that problem?
[08:23] <scribbles> bob2: just need to pipe it?
[08:23] <Agrajag> there isn't, to my knowledge, an IA64 ubuntu
[08:23] <Navatiu> IA64 use different spec than AMD64 is?
[08:23] <bob2> scribbles: dude
[08:23] <Navatiu> hmm i dunno
[08:23] <Hobbsee> poningru: search on ubuntuforums.org - there are a few threads that give you a five step method to do it, which works really nicely
[08:23] <Agrajag> IA64 is Itanium
[08:23] <bob2> scribbles: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key CFF71CB3AFA44BDD ; gpg --export CFF71CB3AFA44BDD | sudo apt-key add -
[08:23] <bob2> Navatiu: they are completely unrelated, yes
[08:24] <Navatiu> ok
[08:24] <bob2> Agrajag: it's non-official, but mostly exists
[08:24] <AngryParsley> poningru: ugh, why can't they just throw 1.5 in the multiverse repository?
[08:24] <neotrophy> Yeah, IA64 and AMD64 are very different instruction sets.
[08:24] <Agrajag> the newer P4suse EMT64, which is almost exactly the same as AMD64
[08:24] <TokenBad> thought so..thanks bob2
[08:24] <scribbles> sorry bob2, I couldn't find anything on this
[08:24] <AngryParsley> I have to download the installer and then translate it to a .deb
[08:24] <Navatiu> i know the architure concept myself, but i dont know they were actually diffrent than being similar(not SAME) heh.
[08:24] <poningru> AngryParsley: cause its not free
[08:24] <iiiears___> Do 32 bit applications conform to the no execute bit policy on 64 bit processors?
[08:24] <Hobbsee> AngryParsley: search on ubuntuforums.org - there are a few threads that give you a five step method to do it, which works really nicely
[08:24] <AngryParsley> poningru: I got the win32codecs from multiverse, and they're not free
[08:25] <Hobbsee> AngryParsley: when did you get the win32 codecs?  I think they've been taken out of the repositories as well, certainly were a week ago when i reinstalled kubuntu
[08:25] <neotrophy> iiiears___: no execute bit policy?
[08:25] <poningru> AngryParsley: its different case
[08:25] <poningru> and its been taken out
[08:26] <MadpilotPPC> Hobbsee, you can still get them, via devious means... check the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[08:26] <philc> I moved my desktop from wired to wireless networking, using a netgear wireless adapter. I can't host games online anymore; the ports and router are set up correctly. I have a feeling like this has something to do with the hardware. I know that most desktop wireless cards don't support bridging in linux, do issues like this affect what I can host?
[08:26] <bob2> no
[08:26] <AngryParsley> poningru: why? those are extremely important if you want to play any movies
[08:26] <iiiears___> The newer processors have RAM marked off into sections for each application to make it more difficult for buffer over flow/exploits to work.
[08:27] <poningru> bob2: ?
[08:27] <Hobbsee> MadpilotPPC: i'm aware of that - it's very fortunate!
[08:27] <p0windah> philc: shouldnt be any difference between wireless and a piece of cable
[08:27] <bob2> that's not quite how it works
[08:27] <neotrophy> AngryParsley: I *can't* run the win32 codecs and I haven't found anything I can't play yet.
[08:27] <CaiN_SA> elo wi
[08:27] <CaiN_SA> elo witblitz
[08:27] <MadpilotPPC> AngryParsley, legal reasons...
[08:27] <witblitz> ewwo
[08:27] <bob2> philc: no, unless the driver is oddly buggy
[08:27] <philc> p0windah: things like vmware care
[08:27] <witblitz> wies die poeskop?
[08:27] <Agrajag> VLC doesn't use w32codecs
[08:27] <philc> bob2: is there anyway I can monitor what packets are hitting a network device?
[08:27] <poningru> ok seriously these explanataion things are getting a little crowded
[08:27] <Navatiu> yeah legal reason
[08:27] <CaiN_SA> lol witblitz
[08:27] <bob2> philc: tcpdump would be the first thing I'd try, yeah
[08:27] <AngryParsley> neotrophy: so... what about your average WMV?
[08:28] <Hobbsee> poningru: that's why you use people's names when you're responding to someone - it generally comes up a different colour, or flashes the screen
[08:28] <poningru> philc: ethereal might help too
[08:28] <poningru> ?
[08:28] <CaiN_SA> bob sais you have to reinstall an os to give it 64bit support
[08:28] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no
[08:28] <bob2> CaiN_SA: stop confusing the issue
[08:28] <MrGardenHoseMan> In which directory(ies) is xchat installed by default?
[08:28] <scribbles> E: Package azureus has no installation candidate
[08:28] <scribbles>  <-- after all that
[08:28] <bob2> MrGardenHoseMan: dpkg -L xchat
[08:28] <Agrajag> there's no such thing as giving an OS 64 bit support.
[08:28] <neotrophy> Hmmm... I haven't actually tried one yet :)  But I think there are free wmv decoders.  I'm intrigued now.
[08:28] <poningru> seriousy dude read up on different architectures
[08:28] <AngryParsley> ok, so a script that gets the binary installer, translates it, and installs it should be made
[08:29] <AngryParsley> how would that satisfy the legal requirements?
[08:29] <bob2> CaiN_SA: your question appeared to be "How do I convert an ubuntu i386 system to and amd64 one?", and the answer to that is "reinstall"
[08:29] <scribbles> neotrophy: the w32codecs ARE available via apt-get
[08:29] <Agrajag> newer versions of ffmpeg are making progress on WMV9 apparently
[08:29] <neotrophy> Not much use on AMD64 though
[08:29] <msan> hallo
[08:29] <CaiN_SA> bob2, and if your making an operating system  ????? you cant reinstall something you dont have
[08:29] <msan> I'm new with ubuntu
[08:29] <bob2> CaiN_SA: dude, stop
[08:29] <Hobbsee> scribbles: they were taken out, they are not there now.
[08:29] <bob2> CaiN_SA: you're massively confusing yourself here
[08:29] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[08:29] <scribbles> !ubotu tell neotropy about w32codecs
[08:29] <msan> I've read that there is support for installing directly onto LVM volumes
[08:30] <msan> I'd like to use evms (http://evms.sourceforge.net/) instead lvm
[08:30] <bob2> CaiN_SA: if you have a specific question, ask it, perhaps in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:30] <msan> Is there support for installing onto EVMS volumes?
[08:30] <poningru> CaiN_SA: dude really read a book about different computer architectures
[08:30] <MadpilotPPC> !tell neotrophy abut w32codecs
[08:30] <scribbles> !ubotu tell neotrophy about w32codecs
[08:30] <scribbles> !ubotu tell hobbsee about w32codecs
[08:30] <CaiN_SA> poningru, lol
[08:30] <MadpilotPPC> scribbles, use either "ubotu <bla>" or just !tell when you're talking to ubotu
[08:30] <CaiN_SA> you obviously never used gentoo before
[08:30] <poningru> CaiN_SA: no I havent
[08:30] <jhuniepi> hello
[08:30] <scribbles> oh
[08:31] <CaiN_SA> becoz you can optimise your pc depending on what cpu you have
[08:31] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no, stop
[08:31] <bob2> CaiN_SA: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:31] <poningru> CaiN_SA: thats if you have same architecture
[08:31] <bob2> you're very very confused and taking up channel space
[08:31] <poningru> sigh sorry
[08:31] <msan> Is there support for installing ubuntu onto EVMS volumes?
[08:31] <scribbles> E: Package azureus has no installation candidate
[08:31] <scribbles>  still from apt-get
[08:31] <bob2> msan: yes
[08:31] <bob2> scribbles: yes, that's a clear error
[08:31] <witblitz> scribbles, probably not :P
[08:31] <msan> bob2, I've read only with lvm
[08:32] <bob2> scribbles: none of the sources in your sources.list have that package
[08:32] <Navatiu> hmm
[08:32] <scribbles> hrm, I added the new backports?
[08:32] <BlankB> scribbles: azureus works with the version from the main azureus site. you dont need it from a repo.
[08:32] <Navatiu> !ubotu tell navatiu about ubotu
[08:32] <ezequiel> join #ubuntu-es
[08:33] <BlankB> scribbles: I have been using the linux gtk version.
[08:33] <poningru> scribbles: you sure you have java installed?
[08:33] <_Rappy_> ok, s der e eg ikke sant
[08:33] <_Rappy_> p tur til hgskola for  slipp av min kjre, og s p tur videre til jobb
[08:33] <_Rappy_> hmm
[08:33] <_Rappy_> sooo, thw wrong chan
[08:34] <ezequiel> alguna herramienta para desarrollar en pascal y C?
[08:34] <ezequiel> tipo por rhine o kdevelop ?
[08:34] <ezequiel> de donde se puede bajar ?
[08:34] <scribbles> yea i have java installed
[08:34] <witblitz> /kick ezequiel ssht
[08:34] <scribbles> guess I just nee dto go get it from the website
[08:35] <Myrtti> !ubuntu-es
[08:35] <ubotu> Myrtti: What?
[08:35] <Myrtti> !es
[08:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:35] <Myrtti> !pt
[08:35] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:35] <iiiears___> where can you find tools to program in pascal and C the type for rhine or kdevelop and where are they filed under?
[08:36] <poningru> iiiears___: search for it in apt
[08:36] <bob2> iiiears___: build-essential installs you a full set of C compiler stuff
[08:36] <bob2> iiiears___: if you want kdevelop, just install it
[08:36] <iiiears___> lol - i live in so-cal - gotta speak spanish here.
[08:36] <FR500> iiiears___: for offtopic goto #ubuntu-offtopic :p
[08:37] <jay-ar> how can i make my ati 9250 run nice in games?
[08:37] <iiiears___> ROFL - you are right again.
[08:37] <poningru> !tell jay-ar about ati
[08:37] <FR500> !tell fr500 about ati
[08:37] <fantasai> where is Java installed to?
[08:38] <fantasai> I ran the installer, but I can't find any files
[08:38] <FR500> fantasai: in /usr/share/lib or something, what do u need the files for?
[08:38] <fantasai> to run them?
[08:39] <neotrophy> LOL... followed the howto.  The 1 WMV movie that I found on my system that I couldn't play, I still can't play, because it's WM9 :)
[08:39] <MadpilotPPC> fantasai, try just "java" in a terminal - that should get you a help message, at least
[08:39] <fantasai> command not found
[08:39] <iiiears___> fantasi - the linux directory tree is a maze isn't it. slocate and find commands are lifesavers   run updatedb to give you a fresh look at the tree
[08:40] <fantasai> linux directory tree isn't as much of a maze when binary executables put themselves where they belong
[08:40] <iiiears___> lol - okay, too true.
[08:42] <BlankB> fantasai: did you install from a .deb file?
[08:42] <fantasai> BlankB, I followed the instructions on http://therning.org/magnus/archives/63
[08:43] <fantasai> It seemed to work
[08:43] <fantasai> but slocate isn't turning up anything
[08:44] <bob2> slocate won't work until tommorow
[08:44] <Hobbsee> fantasai: seen this?  http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[08:44] <barosl> does anyone know how to restore files on ext3 filesystem? i want to restore some python source codes....
[08:45] <BlankB> I think that only built packages for install java. I dont see anytheing there that installs them. Did it create some files?
[08:45] <jay-ar> how can i check my kernel version?
[08:45] <jab> has anyone here installed eclipse on breezy?
[08:45] <bob2> barosl: you can't, really
[08:45] <BlankB> jay-ar: uname -a
[08:45] <iru> jay: uname -a ?
[08:45] <jay-ar> ok tnx
[08:45] <bob2> barosl: and please change your /quit message to not be so long and full of unicode
[08:45] <bimberi> fantasai: The instructions on that page will create a DEB file.  Did you install it using dpkg?
[08:45] <barosl> bob2, oh; i see...
[08:46] <epiloc> how do i delete a symbolic link?
[08:46] <bob2> epiloc: rm linkname
[08:46] <epiloc> how would i reverse this  sudo ln -s /media/BLAK* /media/ipod
[08:46] <epiloc> rm /media/ipod ?
[08:46] <scribbles> so I just installed Azureus, tried to download something, and now I"m getting Directory Creation Failed, how do I set it so Azureus can create the directories it needs to?
[08:47] <poningru> scribbles: I think you have to run it under sudo the first time
[08:47] <qsrv> hi. I've found a small error in ubuntu 5.10 acpi sleep script
[08:47] <bob2> no
[08:47] <fantasai> bimberi, I only see some .deb files, no instructions...
[08:47] <BlankB> scribbles: you just need to run it somewhere where the user has access to.
[08:47] <qsrv> where should I report it?
[08:47] <bob2> you never run it under sudo
[08:47] <bob2> qsrv: do you have a radeon?
[08:48] <BlankB> fantasai: dpkg -i packagename.deb
[08:48] <poningru> scribbles: guess not
[08:48] <scribbles> all I did was extract the archive to my home dir then ./azureus, opened a torrent and then I got a directory creation error
[08:48] <bob2> and the error was...
[08:49] <scribbles> its within Azureus
[08:49] <scribbles> Error: Directory Creation Failed...
[08:49] <p0windah> scribbles: did you install as root ? then run as non-root ?
[08:49] <bimberi> fantasai: whereever you ran the "fakeroot make-jpkg...." command there should be a deb file (sun<blah>.deb)
[08:49] <scribbles> no I thinK i installed as non-root :(
[08:49] <qsrv> bob2 : yeah
[08:49] <p0windah> scribbles: so you didnt use sudo ?
[08:49] <scribbles> no
[08:49] <bob2> qsrv: fixed already, should be o narchive.u.c in the next 15 minutes
[08:50] <qsrv> ;]
[08:50] <qsrv> heh
[08:50] <scribbles> am I supposed to uninstall it then ./azureus as sudo
[08:50] <qsrv> so much for my 15 mins of fame and glory ;]
[08:50] <bob2> scribbles: no
[08:50] <p0windah> scribbles: no
[08:50] <bimberi> qsrv: now that's customer service! :P
[08:50] <fantasai> bimberi, ah, ok
[08:50] <BlankB> qsrv: there is a option in the config for where to save torrents to make sure that directory is writeable by your user.
[08:50] <jab> eclipse anybody?
[08:50] <BlankB> oops...qsrv: = scribbles:
[08:50] <fantasai> bimberi, thanks!
[08:51] <bimberi> fantasai: yw :)
[08:51] <qsrv> ;]
[08:51] <p0windah> scribbles: when azureus is loaded go into the settings of the program and double check the directories where its trying to save stuff by default
[08:51] <jay-ar> how can i get this fglrx-driver
[08:51] <scribbles> Save Directory: /home/stephen/.Azureus/torrents
[08:52] <scribbles> thats a writable directory for me being logged in as stephen right?
[08:52] <qsrv> one more thing are there any apps that manage network connections(wired and wireless) for laptops? Something like IBM's access connections?
[08:52] <BlankB> scribbles: cd /home/stephen/.Azureus/torrents; touch test.txt
[08:52] <poningru> qsrv: network manager
[08:52] <qsrv> I was looking for something more automatic.
[08:52] <bimberi> jay-ar: package xorg-driver-fglrx looks good
[08:53] <scribbles> worked fine BlankB
[08:53] <qsrv> Something that could detect the wireless network
[08:53] <jay-ar> @bimberi is that installed in ubuntu by default?
[08:53] <BlankB> scribbles: Then I cant imagine why its complaining.
[08:53] <bimberi> jay-ar: no
[08:53] <jay-ar> how do i get that?
[08:53] <bimberi> ubotu tell jay-ar about ati
[08:54] <qsrv> Or maybe if I could get for example wpa_supplicant to run when I bring the wireless interface up, that would suit me. I would then just bring the interface I need when I need it
[08:54] <bob2> qsrv: that's what network manager does...
[08:54] <bob2> qsrv: running programs when interfaces come up is trivial, /etc/network/interfaces, ip-up.d
[08:54] <qsrv> oh
[08:55] <qsrv> I'll look into that
[08:55] <xukun> what is the release date for breezy?
[08:55] <bimberi> xukun: Octover 13
[08:55] <qsrv> as for network manager: I need wpa, and, as far as I see, it's not supported yet
[08:55] <bimberi> ber even :P
[08:55] <qsrv> or is it?
[08:55] <bob2> bah wpa
[08:56] <mathieudz> bimberi: are you spanish? :) (that typo)
[08:56] <poningru> !tell qsrv about networkmanager
[08:56] <mathieudz> is there a gnome wrapper for 'ssh-add' ?
[08:56] <bimberi> mathieudz: hehe, no, far from it :)
[08:56] <poningru> qsrv: wpa support is not that good
[08:56] <poningru> almost anywhere
[08:56] <xukun> bimberi, thanks
[08:56] <bimberi> xukun: yw :)
[08:57] <qsrv> well, I wouldn't need wpa if it wasn't for my faculty's admin. And he said wpa_supplicant was probably the only choice I had
[08:57] <poningru> qsrv: yeah understandable
[08:57] <poningru> wpa > Wep
[08:58] <johnnybezak> hey guys i just did a apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade and I noticed that there were a whole bunch of Xorg packages. I assume this is the new modular X am I right?
[08:58] <qsrv> right, thanks guys, I'll have a go at getting wpa_supplicant to work
[08:58] <p0windah> johnnybezak: yah
[08:58] <locomorto> johnnybezak: are you on hoary?
[08:58] <locomorto> if you are then its probally not
[08:58] <p0windah> johnnybezak: graphic drivers and whatnot
[08:59] <jay-ar> how can i get https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:59] <locomorto> if your on breezy you already have it
[08:59] <jay-ar> how can i get https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:59] <jay-ar> wroing message
[08:59] <jay-ar> how can i get xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:00] <bimberi> jay-ar: "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" doesn't work?
[09:00] <jay-ar> nope
[09:01] <bimberi> jay-ar: what's the error?
[09:01] <jay-ar> it saysE: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:01] <p0windah> jay-ar: its in restricted
[09:01] <BlankB> scribbles: you still there?
[09:01] <bimberi> jay-ar: can you paste your sources.list to a pastebin (see /topic)?
[09:02] <jay-ar> wait
[09:03] <p0windah> oh christ, I have kylie minogue; locomotion stuck in my head
[09:03] <p0windah> what the hell was I thinking when I started whistling
[09:04] <iiiears___> lol
[09:04] <dreamwave> wild.  first time i ever had to recover a nick.
[09:05] <dreamwave> now.  on to better things.  like... how do i add a couple of options to my nvidia module when it is loaded?
[09:05] <crimsun> dreamwave: add them to /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia
[09:05] <crimsun> "options nvidia something=value"
[09:06] <crimsun> (without the double quotations)
[09:06] <dreamwave> ah
[09:07] <iiiears___> rebooting - not quite enough knowledge yet to reclaim "stale" RAM
[09:08] <p0windah> stale ram ?
[09:08] <net36> hi!!!!!!!!!!
[09:08] <watog> hello
[09:08] <FR500> hi
[09:08] <watog> asl?
[09:08] <dreamwave> crimsun, thanks. i'll try that out.
[09:08] <watog> asl?
[09:09] <watog> chacky asl?
[09:09] <crimsun> watog: not here
[09:09] <dreamwave> now, is there a little gui app or command line app to add/remove runlevel actions?  i don't want powernowd loaded at startup..
[09:10] <bimberi> dreamwave: have a look at "bum" (boot up manager) ...
[09:10] <poningru> dreamwave: I think its called bum or something
[09:10] <bimberi> ubotu tell dreamwave about bum
[09:10] <poningru> what he said
[09:11] <p0windah> homoerotic
[09:11] <dreamwave> hahah.  thanks all
[09:12] <p0windah> is the app (*um) any good btw ?
[09:12] <crimsun> some people really like it
[09:12] <trace> Hello peeps
[09:13] <p0windah> what does "peeps" mean anyway ?
[09:13] <trace> Does anyone here use Anjuta?
[09:13] <trace> "People"
[09:13] <CaiN_SA> peeps = people
[09:14] <p0windah> I should have been clearer, _why_ does it represent "people" ?
[09:14] <trace> why is hi short for hello?
[09:15] <MadpilotPPC> p0windah, because it's harder to misspell? ;)
[09:15] <HrdwrBob> why do you have a zero in your nick?
[09:15] <p0windah> the mindless questions as answers..
[09:15] <AngryParsley> so, I see rhythmbox is installed
[09:15] <trace> lol, why is water wet?
[09:15] <AngryParsley> I set everything up, but I can't seem to transfer songs to my ipod
[09:15] <AngryParsley> I can play songs on my ipod, but not add new ones
[09:16] <iiiears___> why is the sky blue? how high is up?
[09:16] <trace> lol
[09:16] <p0windah> I'm guessing you guys all live/work in some labour camp or something
[09:16] <no-one> how can i install gstreamer-plugins-mp3**.rmp?
[09:17] <p0windah> can I eat please sir ?
[09:17] <trace> does rhythmbox searh for radio streams auto?
[09:17] <AngryParsley> trace: no, you just add URLs
[09:17] <iiiears___> no-one - gstreamer-mad.o8????
[09:17] <crimsun> no-one: gstreamer0.8-mad?
[09:18] <no-one> no
[09:18] <AngryParsley> so is there any way I can transfer songs to my ipod in linux?
[09:18] <bimberi> AngryParsley: have a look at gtkpod
[09:18] <iiiears___> AngryParsley, - gtkpod?
[09:18] <trace> yeah I installed streamtuner
[09:18] <AngryParsley> gtkpod, ok
[09:19] <AngryParsley> trace: and that could throw songs on your ipodL
[09:19] <AngryParsley> *?
[09:19] <trace> Anyone have any Anjuta exp?
[09:19] <no-one> so how?
[09:19] <trace> Nope
[09:19] <trace> Didn't work 4 me..
[09:19] <iiiears___> add DRM - and things get very complex - doable still but very difficult.
[09:19] <mshade> what's the 'ubuntu way' to add NFS shares to the desktop?
[09:19] <AngryParsley> oh
[09:19] <crimsun> no-one: your question doesn't make sense
[09:19] <no-one> i want play mp3
[09:19] <crimsun> no-one: then install gstreamer0.8-mad from universe
[09:20] <MadpilotPPC> !tell no-one about mp3
[09:20] <trace> use xmms
[09:21] <Navatiu> i stay away from DRM all the way.
[09:21] <iiiears___> no-one - ffmpeg, mpg123, gstreamer-mad, w32Codecs, +others, can all do decoding
[09:21] <trace> couldn't get rythmbox to play mp3s
[09:21] <crimsun> trace: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad first?
[09:21] <MadpilotPPC> trace, mine does, honest...
[09:21] <trace> cool...
[09:22] <AngryParsley> wow, gtkpod just locked up
[09:22] <AngryParsley> awesome
[09:22] <trace> It's my fault
[09:22] <trace> I like xmms...
[09:22] <AngryParsley> wait, wtf? it's hashing a bunch of tracks?
[09:22] <AngryParsley> it can't read the nice database on the ipod?
[09:23] <trace> Has anyone got terminus to work on ubuntu?
[09:25] <tommi^> Hi. I'm about to purchase a motherboard and I'm having hard time figuring out if the nv gigabyte ethernet on it will work. Help? tia
[09:25] <trace> I got beagle to work!!!
[09:25] <topyli> beagle rocks doesn't it
[09:25] <trace> yup
[09:26] <tommi^> trace, congratulations!  Breezy Badger right?
[09:26] <trace> I think it is
[09:27] <AngryParsley> ugh, gtkpod takes like 5 minutes to show my songs when I click on my ipod
[09:27] <locomorto> AngryParsley: blame Apple
[09:27] <trace> has anyone got a webcam to work?
[09:27] <locomorto> its their stupid DRM and all round crap they hide
[09:27] <mshade> how to edit a file as superuser?
[09:27] <mshade> trace: i've got a logitech quickcam im which works well
[09:27] <iiiears___> AngryParsley, - this has nothing to do with patented encodong alogrthms does it?
[09:28] <AngryParsley> iiiears___: what? why should it?
[09:28] <AngryParsley> all my songs are mp3s
[09:28] <trace> cool
[09:28] <locomorto> AngryParsley: you think
[09:28] <topyli> iiiears___: beagle in breezy is still in universe, not in the default set of packages
[09:28] <AngryParsley> locomorto: well there used to be some ogg vorbis, but then I got an ipod
[09:28] <locomorto> AngryParsley: actually mp3 ARE patentend
[09:28] <trace> I'm going to try my webcam next...
[09:28] <AngryParsley> locomorto: I don't care
[09:28] <crimsun> AngryParsley: submit a bug for gtkpod to make it use whatever jhymn's backend is
[09:29] <locomorto> AngryParsley: you should
[09:29] <AngryParsley> I just want to throw 10 mp3s on my ipod
[09:29] <AngryParsley> locomorto: no, I just want to listen to music
[09:29] <locomorto> And the patents are holding you back
[09:29] <topyli> heh
[09:29] <locomorto> without them you could play mp3s by default
[09:29] <iiiears___> topyli - erm - yikes Beagle is worth the effort. - hopiing it would be included...
[09:29] <AngryParsley> no, this buggy software is holding me back
[09:29] <locomorto> You would be easily able to sync with your ipod
[09:29] <AngryParsley> locomorto: I can play all the songs on my ipod just fine
[09:29] <AngryParsley> I'm having trouble transferring new songs to it
[09:29] <trace> I'm running mandrake and rh on to other boxes..but I like ubuntu the best...
[09:30] <crimsun> AngryParsley: what application?
[09:30] <AngryParsley> I don't care about patents, copyright, trademarks, etc
[09:30] <trace> *two
[09:30] <dreamwave> hmmm. click on an ogg file in firefox is bringing up an embedded ogg player that plays a few seconds and then promptly crashes firefox.  what's got itself embedded into firefox?  how do i find out?
[09:30] <locomorto> Today maybe, but tommorow will that HD-DVD/BluRay you bought play on you computer?
[09:30] <Myrtti> I have a bunch of wma-files I want to convert to mp3's. I have the script to do it, but it requires mplayer that wont install.
[09:30] <AngryParsley> hell, my other computer runs a pirated copy of XP
[09:30] <AngryParsley> crimsun: gtkpod
[09:30] <crimsun> AngryParsley: you should submit a bug on that application instead of yelling here, since we can't really help that
[09:30] <bob2> awesome but off-topic
[09:30] <bob2> if you have a problem with something, please file a bug
[09:30] <AngryParsley> crimsun: it looks like the software hasn't been updated in over a year
[09:31] <locomorto> It could be because they didn't knwo of any issues
[09:31] <locomorto> Filing bug reports may also cause someone else to come in and fix it for you
[09:31] <jsgotangco> AngryParsley, looks like an upstream issue that ubuntu can't be able to fix
[09:31] <locomorto> releasing a updated version for the benifit of everbody
[09:31] <locomorto> everybody*
[09:32] <iiiears___> AngryParsley - neither does anyone else. 'cept maybe a handful of large grey flannel wearing corporate types.   - just wait 'til ya see  what they have in store for us with the new blu-ray DVD's - (evil laugh)
[09:32] <AngryParsley> ok, so this buggy gtkpod program is in the repository, but not JRE1.5?
[09:32] <AngryParsley> :(
[09:33] <crimsun> we can't distribute Sun's or IBM's
[09:33] <MadpilotPPC> AngryParsley, the buggy app is Free, jre ain't...
[09:33] <crimsun> you can go download it yourself and create a deb if you want
[09:33] <floppyears> hi
[09:33] <floppyears> could somebody tell me what is "fair dice" ?
[09:33] <jsgotangco> or activate multiverse and download blacbox java
[09:33] <AngryParsley> crimsun: yeah, I did that, and it took me forever
[09:33] <crimsun> AngryParsley: using java-package?
[09:34] <AngryParsley> I just want things to work, not have to mess with alien or anything
[09:34] <AngryParsley> crimsun: yeah, I think so
[09:34] <AngryParsley> then I had to uninstall gij and the old java vm
[09:35] <AngryParsley> and then I could start working on my CS project
[09:35] <crimsun> eh, all you needed to do was prepend it to your $PATH
[09:35] <crimsun> no reason to remove the gjc stuff
[09:35] <bob2> wtf
[09:35] <bob2> to get java working simply:
[09:35] <AngryParsley> crimsun: see? I don't want to mess with environment variables, I want to install java
[09:36] <trace> When Anjuta goes thur setting up a project I get a error "configure: error: Package requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 gtk+-2.0) were not met. Any ideas how to fix this?
[09:36] <bob2> download tarball. install. all done.
[09:36] <AngryParsley> bob2: I tried that, it didn't work
[09:36] <bob2> AngryParsley: where "didn't work" = ?
[09:37] <AngryParsley> it threw jre in my home directory gave me weird errors when I tried to compile anything that used interfaces
[09:37] <bob2> that's so unspecific as to be useless
[09:37] <bob2> it will of course put it in your homedir, tho
[09:38] <AngryParsley> why can't it put it in /usr/bin like everything else?
[09:38] <locomorto> Hmm
[09:38] <quicks_> guys, when breezy the stable version comes out, how can i upgrade my hoary version to it?
[09:39] <locomorto> I just updated (breezy) and my show desktop panel icon and the trash icon have dissapered
[09:39] <Hobbsee> quicks: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[09:39] <JDigital> Change synaptic repositories to "breezy" and upgrade
[09:39] <locomorto> Will a reboot fix it?
[09:39] <JDigital> or read the wiki
[09:39] <quicks_> hobbsee: ok, i will take a look at it
[09:39] <crimsun> argh.
[09:40] <AngryParsley> oh yeah, when I update packages do the outdated versions stay on my system, and if so, how can I remove them?
[09:40] <quicks_> locomorto : thanks! :)
[09:40] <locomorto> AngryParesly: sort of
[09:40] <locomorto> Whenever you install something with apt-get the .deb files stay on your system
[09:40] <locomorto> to remove them do
[09:40] <locomorto> sudo apt-cache clean (to remove all of them)
[09:41] <AngryParsley> what if I use synaptic? (I hate CLIs for things like package management)
[09:41] <locomorto> or sudo apt-cache auto-clean (to remove the outdated ones)
[09:41] <AngryParsley> oh, just a one-liner
[09:41] <crimsun> Synaptic automatically manages the package cache
[09:41] <AngryParsley> crimsun: so it gets rid of outdated packages?
[09:41] <locomorto> crimsun: i dont think so
[09:42] <locomorto> AngryParsely: type this in the terminal (locate .deb)
[09:42] <locomorto> Are there lots of results?
[09:42] <AngryParsley> hold on
[09:42] <JDigital> "sudo apt-cache clean" is an easy command to type
[09:42] <AngryParsley> my computer is being choppy from gtkpod
[09:43] <JDigital> er
[09:43] <JDigital> apt-get clean
[09:43] <AngryParsley> locomorto: 40
[09:43] <AngryParsley> lines of results
[09:43] <AngryParsley> they all have "debug" in their names, so they're not packages
[09:43] <JDigital> Who are all these banned people
[09:43] <locomorto> Hmm, is this a new system?
[09:44] <AngryParsley> about a week old
[09:44] <crimsun> damned bots.
[09:44] <locomorto> JDigital: people you dont want to know
[09:44] <AngryParsley> I've updated like 100 packages
[09:44] <AngryParsley> in fact 166 updates are waiting for me
[09:44] <locomorto> well it might be doing a apt-cache auto-clean
[09:44] <locomorto> but if you want to get rid of all of them you can
[09:44] <locomorto> I'll see if you can do it in synaptic
[09:44] <AngryParsley> nah, I have 70 gigs of free space on this drive
[09:45] <Navatiu> heh, i have 20gb on my harddrive. heh heh
[09:45] <Navatiu> my good ol harddrive
[09:45] <locomorto> aha
[09:45] <locomorto> open Synaptic -> Settings -> Files
[09:45] <locomorto> And you can change the options there
[09:45] <AngryParsley> oh hell yeah, I got gtkpod to finally copy the songs
[09:45] <AngryParsley> locomorto: thanks
[09:46] <locomorto> Its basically doing a apt-cache clean
[09:46] <Navatiu> good job
[09:46] <locomorto> (the old versions are removed from the repo)
[09:46] <locomorto> auto-clean*
[09:46] <AngryParsley> well, it's almost 4AM here, I should try going to bed
[09:46] <locomorto> I have 1616 packages installed
[09:46] <AngryParsley> thanks for your help
[09:46] <locomorto> sleep well
[09:47] <locomorto> and no problem
[09:47] <AngryParsley> sorry if I came off kind of harsh, but I was getting frustrated with gtkpod, it was making my system respond like a windows box
[09:47] <AngryParsley> nn
[09:47] <locomorto> bai bai
[09:48] <AngryParsley> wtf?
[09:48] <locomorto> eh?
[09:48] <AngryParsley> oh great, gtkpod DELETED all of my songs on my ipod
[09:48] <AngryParsley> it said it transferred them, and now I have an empty ipod
[09:48] <AngryParsley> eh, fuck it, I'm going to bed
[09:48] <bob2> AngryParsley: please do file a bug
[09:48] <bob2> ranting on IRC is not helpful
[09:48] <locomorto|away> Actually there probably there
[09:49] <locomorto|away> just not in the database
[09:49] <vovka_lt> hi all! has anyone installed 5.10 breezy PR?
[09:49] <locomorto|away> so hopefully you didn't lose them all
[09:49] <AngryParsley> locomorto|away: I have 18.5 gigs of free space on my ipod
[09:49] <dooglus> I'm having problems with movie subtitles.  mplayer won't show czech characters, and totem-xine will, but only in a small font.  can someone help with either problem please?
[09:49] <locomorto|away> vovka_lt: yes
[09:49] <iiiears___> ouch!
[09:49] <AngryParsley> and it's a 20 gig ipod (so 18.5 actualy size)
[09:49] <locomorto|away> vovka_lt: its very stable
[09:49] <AngryParsley> *actual
[09:49] <vovka_lt> locomorto|away, could u send me you /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:50] <locomorto|away> eh sure: if you want one with aussie mirrors
[09:50] <vovka_lt> me is a gentoo user, but now trying out this wonder at home :)
[09:50] <vovka_lt> ok. it fits me
[09:50] <vovka_lt> me is from lt
[09:50] <vovka_lt> lithuania
[09:50] <bob2> vovka_lt: you already have a valid sources.list
[09:50] <vovka_lt> yep, but me is on 5.04 hoary
[09:51] <vovka_lt> i want a freesh install
[09:51] <bob2> which is fine
[09:51] <locomorto|away> vovka_lt: just change everything from hoary to breezy
[09:51] <locomorto|away> so if it says hoary
[09:51] <locomorto|away> make it breezy
[09:51] <locomorto|away> then apt-get updat
[09:51] <bob2> vovka_lt: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[09:51] <locomorto|away> then apt-get update*
[09:51] <locomorto|away> and check that out as well
[09:51] <qsrv> strange thing: I get no sound from totem-xine under gnome
[09:51] <qsrv> even though gnome's sound events play ok
[09:51] <qsrv> what am I missing?
[09:52] <locomorto|away> Set the output to esd
[09:52] <bob2> configure it to use esd for output
[09:52] <bob2> or pkill esd
[09:52] <vovka_lt> locomorto|away, if someone has already a fresh install of 5.10 and needs a sources.list...
[09:52] <locomorto|away> ?
[09:52] <vovka_lt> so i am giving him mine w/hoary changed to breezy?
[09:53] <vovka_lt> yesterday it was not working
[09:53] <bob2> vovka_lt: you need to be a lot more specific about what on earth you're doing
[09:53] <bob2> vovka_lt: if you just installed 5.10, then you have a perfectly fine sources.list
[09:53] <vovka_lt> with no software in there!
[09:53] <Navatiu> g a s p.
[09:53] <bob2> what?
[09:53] <drummer87> i can't log into gnome
[09:54] <vovka_lt> al software (through synaptic) is already installed
[09:54] <bob2> vovka_lt: so show us your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood
[09:54] <drummer87> i get some error about not being able to read authority file
[09:54] <vovka_lt> what is #flood ? :))
[09:54] <vovka_lt> totally new to irc ;)
[09:54] <bob2> drummer87: which app did you run with su last time you were in gnome?
[09:54] <bob2> k3b?
[09:54] <MadpilotPPC> drummer87, .ICEauthority?
[09:55] <drummer87> MadpilotPPC, yes that one
[09:55] <bob2> vovka_lt: /j #flood
[09:55] <drummer87> bob2, can't remember.. i ran some firewall apps with sudo and gksudo
[09:55] <qsrv> oh wait, I think this could be an mp3 issue
[09:56] <drummer87> firestarter, guidedog, ..
[09:56] <bob2> drummer87: log in to the terminal, delete it, log back in
[09:56] <bob2> ctrl-alt-f1
[09:56] <locomorto> !tell qsrv about mp3
[09:56] <MadpilotPPC> drummer87, chown user:user /.ICEauthority, done
[09:56] <qsrv> since bmp doesn't seem to play mp3 files at all
[09:56] <bob2> also, if you think you need to run a GUI firewall tool, you probablyu don't need to
[09:56] <locomorto> qsrv read your message from ubotu
[09:56] <MadpilotPPC> good night all. need sleep...
[09:57] <nybble> night MadpilotPPC
[09:57] <drummer87> bob2, i was trying to get some internet routing going (unsuccessfully) and thought using an app would be easier
[09:57] <drummer87> i dunno really how to use iptables
[09:57] <bob2> ah, fair enough
[09:58] <bob2> anyway, do what I or MadpilotPPC said
[09:58] <Navatiu> i recall when i try to get gentoo network to work but it dont detect well.
[09:58] <Navatiu> bah
[09:58] <Navatiu> that was year back when i try gentoo a go. heh
[09:58] <drummer87> done.. i'll log off and back onto my account
[09:58] <locomorto> gentoo == pain
[09:59] <Navatiu> yeah
[09:59] <vovka_lt> bob2, here's my sources.list: http://www.j-a.lt/sources.list
[09:59] <_rb_> hey does anyone know of some decent instructions for swat in samba ?
[09:59] <Navatiu> if you want to embrace pain, gentoo is proabbly thing you want to install with pain in ass.
[09:59] <Navatiu> heh
[09:59] <locomorto> swat?
[09:59] <_rb_> cant get the thing running properly on my server
[09:59] <locomorto> you dont use samba for a game
[09:59] <SlicerDicer-> hey bob2 have you heard of a issue with AMD64 users not being able to load nvidia modules? I cannot seem to get mine working I been trying and trying :/
[09:59] <bob2> it's best to avoid swat entirely
[09:59] <locomorto> Only for things like file and printer sharing
[09:59] <concept10> is libdvdcss avail for breezy any where?
[09:59] <_rb_> (samba web adminstration tool)
[09:59] <ppz> how do i get gcc working in Breezy ?
[09:59] <bob2> vovka_lt: and?
[10:00] <bob2> ppz: install build-essential
[10:00] <bob2> same as on hoary
[10:00] <bob2> and warty and debian
[10:00] <poningru> ppz: build essential
[10:00] <_rb_> what to use instead of swat then ?
[10:00] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: you'd need to give a lot more information
[10:00] <drummer87> thanks.. worked great
[10:00] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, sure thing :)
[10:00] <drummer87> what would've happened to the .ICEauthority file?
[10:00] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: e.g. dmesg output, kernel versions, ubuntu versions, lspci output, modprobe output
[10:00] <hubsi> guten morgn :)
[10:01] <bob2> drummer87: it got owned by root, so your user couldn't touch it when you logged in again
[10:01] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, give me a moment to get all that information for you :)
[10:01] <drummer87> ah..k, thanks
[10:01] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, I am encoding a video at the moment it will be done in 2 mins least thats the ETA
[10:01] <coobra> omg
[10:01] <coobra> i hawe forgot :/
[10:02] <coobra> i want to fixx my locales
[10:02] <ppz> bob2, poningru and how wold i go about doing that ? Synaptic ?
[10:02] <coobra> what was the corect way to do t :/
[10:02] <kemik> coobra:  dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:02] <coobra> kemik: <3
[10:02] <poningru> ppz: yeah dude
[10:02] <poningru> just like warty and hoary
[10:03] <bob2> ppz: however you normally install packages
[10:03] <bob2> synaptic is one option, yes
[10:08] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, lspci, lsmod, dmesg http://rafb.net/paste/results/62gmAw96.html getting kernel versions and the rest
[10:09] <epiloc> how do i remove a link
[10:09] <bob2> epiloc: a symlink? same way you remove a file
[10:10] <epiloc> yes, i did ln -s /media/BLAK* /media/ipod
[10:10] <epiloc> and now everything is messed up
[10:10] <epiloc> so just rm /media/ipod?
[10:10] <bob2> yes
[10:10] <bob2> ls -ld /media/ipod
[10:10] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:10] <bob2> that will show you it's a symlink
[10:10] <simple_gurl> hello
[10:11] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64k8 and restricted modules to match with nvidia-kernel-common 1.0.7667+1 "kinda odd cause it says in dmesg 7174"
[10:11] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, does that help?
[10:11] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:11] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: the module is loaded fine
[10:11] <SlicerDicer-> let me get you xorg log bob2
[10:12] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, be back in a few mins I got to crash xorg by having it load nvidia module then come back to get you the output
[10:13] <ppz> bob2, poningru, got the essentials in but i still cant compile. C compiler cannot create executables.
[10:14] <bob2> ppz: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1
[10:14] <ppz> bob2, ii  libc6          2.3.5-1ubuntu11
[10:15] <bob2> and dpkg -l build-essential | tail -n1
[10:15] <ppz> build-essential 11.1
[10:15] <bob2> that's not what it said
[10:16] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, http://rafb.net/paste/results/mEYQgQ18.html that is my xorg log
[10:16] <bob2> the kernel module loaded fine
[10:16] <ndlovu> hi all. if I want to split big files and then put them back together, would split and cat be the commands to use?
[10:16] <bob2> that's whack
[10:16] <bob2> ndlovu: yes
[10:17] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, errm whats causing it not to work? if the module is loading but failing to initialize?
[10:17] <ndlovu> bob2: thanks
[10:18] <bob2> ndlovu: in a pinch you could even do it without split
[10:18] <bob2> the kernel side is fine, afaict
[10:18] <arkalon> is #ubuntu the ubuntu development channel as well as the help channel?
[10:18] <iiiears___> crimsun  -  Hi, after beginning the system update it halted after downloading all the packages and installiing over half. error message  "Unable to grab mouse malicious client may be controlling your session" - Had you seen this kind of error before?
[10:18] <bob2> arkalon: no
[10:18] <ndlovu> bob2: I was thinking '# split --bytes=650m -d bigfile smallfile'
[10:18] <arkalon> bob2: can you point me in the right direction then?
[10:18] <ndlovu> and '# cat smallfile01 smallfile02 smallfile03 > bigfile'
[10:19] <crimsun> iiiears___: ...no, can't say I have.
[10:19] <bob2> arkalon: #ubuntu-devel, but it is seriously for actual development
[10:19] <bob2> ndlovu: looks good
[10:19] <glyn> what's a good and easy way to get all the video codecs for wmv files etc?
[10:19] <arkalon> bob2: great, thanks
[10:19] <jay-ar> !tell ati
[10:19] <crimsun> iiiears___: you don't happen to have vino running, do you?
[10:19] <bob2> iiiears___: what else do you have running?
[10:19] <bob2> games, vnc, vmware?
[10:19] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, do you have any ideas what would cause my nvidia driver not to work?
[10:20] <psycode> is there an enviroment variable holding the current directory ? (what's its name?)
[10:20] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: sounds like a X bug
[10:20] <bob2> psycode: $PWD
[10:20] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, ok thats what I figured I just got to wait till a version of X comes that is useable?
[10:20] <iiiears___> very unusual. - xchat and glxgears?!?
[10:20] <psycode> bob2, thanks
[10:20] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, is there anyway to downgrade with ubuntu?
[10:21] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: I'd file a bug, personally
[10:21] <iiiears___> some conflict between a hardened linux and the display driver?
[10:21] <bob2> iiiears___: "hardened linux"?
[10:21] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: do you have a previous X server in /var/cache/apt/archives/?
[10:21] <SlicerDicer-> I dont know bob2
[10:21] <iiiears___> okay, i am a newb. took a wild stab in the dark.
[10:21] <iiiears___> lol
[10:21] <bob2> iiiears___: does killing glxgears help?
[10:22] <bob2> iiiears___: I assume you get that while synaptic or something is asking for your password?
[10:22] <SlicerDicer-> I have 4 versions of xorg-common
[10:22] <iiiears___> rebooted and am reinstalling from a ghost image
[10:22] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: if you're using hoary, xserver-xorg is the one yo ucare about
[10:22] <glyn> join #latex
[10:22] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, I am using breezy
[10:22] <jay-ar> how can i check if i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx correctly?
[10:23] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: then I don't know what particular package it would be
[10:23] <bob2> jay-ar: dpkg -l blahblahblah
[10:23] <bob2> jay-ar: if the first two chars are ii, it's installed
[10:23] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, xserver-xorg_6.8.2-61_amd64.deb
[10:23] <SlicerDicer->  would that be it?
[10:23] <bob2> no, that package is basically empty
[10:23] <jay-ar> oh tnx
[10:24] <jay-ar> how can i test it?
[10:24] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:24] <bob2> jay-ar: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <bob2> mostly
[10:24] <locomorto> change ati to fglrx
[10:24] <bob2> simple_gurl: this isn't really a chat channel, sorry
[10:24] <SlicerDicer-> xserver-xorg-core_6.8.2-61_amd64.deb?
[10:24] <locomorto> and then see if x starts with that set
[10:24] <locomorto> !tell jay-ar about ati
[10:24] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hih
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <locomorto> also have a look at those very important pieces of information
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> h
[10:25] <simple_gurl> ihi
[10:25] <simple_gurl> hi
[10:25] <goldmund> can someone help me to install skype for ubuntu?
[10:26] <SlicerDicer-> bob2 would it be xserver-xorg-core_6.8.2-61_amd64.deb?
[10:26] <ompaul> goldmund, breezy or hoary?
[10:26] <goldmund> I've downloaded skype.deb form skype's site
[10:26] <goldmund> hoary
[10:26] <ompaul> goldmund, I would not do that if I was you
[10:26] <goldmund> I'm new on linux and I have no clue how to do it
[10:26] <ompaul> goldmund, :)
[10:26] <goldmund> why?
[10:27] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: no
[10:27] <ompaul> goldmund, they *broke* skype in a pretty amazing way
[10:27] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, :/
[10:27] <goldmund> what do you mean by "broke"?
[10:27] <goldmund> I repeat ...I'm new on Ubuntu :) and even Linux :)
[10:28] <ompaul> goldmund, made changes to it, in such a way as it no longer works on ubuntu
[10:28] <Nermal> goldmund: dpkg -i ?
[10:29] <ompaul> goldmund, do you know what software dependancies are?
[10:29] <Chousuke> does skype have broken dependencies?
[10:29] <Chousuke> stupid
[10:29] <goldmund> aha! I undertand ...but than why do they keep a link for their skype ubuntu version on their own site? just in order to full us?!
[10:29] <goldmund> yes I know
[10:29] <Chousuke> it shouldn't have dependencies at all :/
[10:29] <ompaul> Chousuke, :)
[10:30] <Chousuke> when you do closed source stuff for linux, you had better compile everything in statically.
[10:30] <Chousuke> like opera does for some packages.
[10:30] <rafael> buenas
[10:30] <glyn> hola amigo
[10:30] <Chousuke> as a fallback, if a native distro package doesn't exist.
[10:30] <Chousuke> English, please.
[10:30] <rafael> hey como estas
[10:30] <ompaul> !es
[10:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:31] <rafael> sera que me pueden recomendar un buen reproductor de musica
[10:31] <p0windah> rafael: bork bork bork
[10:31] <ompaul> goldmund, this ain't getting you going - there is a tar.gz package on the site it may install better
[10:31] <glyn> me gusta Gnutella
[10:31] <bob2> goldmund: get the static .tar.bz2 fro their website
[10:32] <ompaul> goldmund, follow the instructions withit
[10:32] <Chousuke> glyn: rafael: /join #ubuntu-es
[10:32] <ndlovu> goldmund, I'm not sure about the broken skype, but there are installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto. Sounds like it might not help you much though :(
[10:32] <poningru> ubotu: tell glyn about es
[10:32] <ompaul> !tell rafael about es
[10:32] <rafael> please ok in ingles people
[10:32] <rafael> jejejje
[10:32] <glyn> lol
[10:32] <rafael> please a good music player?
[10:33] <Shin_Gouki> hi! i got a "apt-get remove" question! i installed mozilla and afterwards mozilla firefox, now i wanted to remove mozilla, so i typed: "apt-get remove mozilla" but i can still start the programm , where is my mistake?
[10:33] <Skid> xmms
[10:33] <poningru> rafael: amarok
[10:33] <glyn> I just use Totem
[10:33] <GNULinuxer> rafael: totem
[10:33] <poningru> rofl
[10:33] <locomorto> I use totem-xine
[10:33] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: presumably you want mozilla-browser
[10:33] <Skid> xmms is kind of like winamp
[10:33] <Skid> or beep
[10:33] <locomorto> Skid: beep-media-player is much nicer
[10:33] <Chousuke> Skid: but beep sucks, and xmms is olde.
[10:33] <locomorto> lol
[10:33] <rafael> ok thank you very much i am goin to look
[10:33] <Skid> :)
[10:33] <ompaul> goldmund, use the tar.bz2 on their site :) - be aware that the .deb is not going to make your life easy, until they actually make a real version for Ubuntu
[10:33] <Skid> beep is cool
[10:33] <Chousuke> beep sucks
[10:33] <PoStAl> how do you get totem to play proprietary codecs/
[10:33] <Chousuke> it's unstable and buggy.
[10:34] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, i want mozilla firefox and remove the rest
[10:34] <goldmund> aha
[10:34] <glyn> I want to know that too, Postal
[10:34] <glyn> trying to figure that out
[10:34] <locomorto> PoStAl: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[10:34] <goldmund> thank you gys!!!
[10:34] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 is this possible?
[10:34] <goldmund> I really do appreciate your help
[10:34] <goldmund> thanks
[10:34] <Shin_Gouki> yes this channel rocks :D
[10:34] <goldmund> I'll try to do what you advised me to
[10:34] <Nermal> PoStAl: personally I just install w32codecs and replace totem-gstreamer with totem-xine
[10:34] <locomorto> !tell PoStAl about mp3
[10:35] <PoStAl> whats the point of not including support.
[10:35] <Nermal> support ?
[10:35] <locomorto> Nermal: is w32codecs still in extras?
[10:35] <Nermal> you get what you pay for
[10:35] <ompaul> goldmund, the info about the install of the bz2 is not too bad the .deb is rubbish
[10:35] <PoStAl> im talking about the codec, by default.
[10:35] <thoreauputic> PoStAl: licensing issues
[10:35] <Nermal> PoStAl: licencing
[10:35] <locomorto> legal issues
[10:35] <Nermal> s/c/s
[10:35] <goldmund> k! thanks! I gotta split now! See you later!
[10:35] <PoStAl> bloody licencing.
[10:36] <Nermal> PoStAl: bloody proprietary formats eh ?
[10:36] <rafael> amarok have a lot of version
[10:36] <Shin_Gouki> hi! i got a "apt-get remove" question! i installed mozilla and afterwards mozilla firefox, now i wanted to remove mozilla, so i typed: "apt-get remove mozilla" but i can still start the programm , where is my mistake?
[10:36] <Navatiu> i hear from someone that you can get w32codecs from apt-get recently. dont follow my direction cuz i might be wrong. :)
[10:36] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: mozilla-browser
[10:36] <nightswim> mozilla-browser
[10:37] <thoreauputic> ompaul: when it starts to freeze down there you'll know Vista is about to be released ;-)
[10:37] <johnnybezak> anyone know of a ubuntu package for the ms true type core fonts?
[10:37] <Shin_Gouki> crimsum, so i need to type : ..remove mozilla-browser?
[10:37] <crimsun> johnnybezak: msttcorefonts in multiverse
[10:37] <Chousuke> hmm
[10:37] <Navatiu> heh thore
[10:37] <Chousuke> the bmp people seem to have advanced
[10:37] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: yes
[10:37] <Chousuke> bmp is no longer based on XMMS :)
[10:37] <Chousuke> that's good. hope it doesn't suck :P
[10:37] <crimsun> well, XMMS has a v2 in the works, too
[10:37] <Navatiu> 'ubuntu professional vista' okay i am kidding. it just i happen to read paper from slashdot. heh
[10:38] <ubuntu> How do I mount an NTFS partition with write permission?
[10:38] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun i thank u!
[10:38] <ubuntu> I need to replace a boot.ini
[10:38] <Hobbsee> snorks: why not boot into safe mode and edit it there?
[10:38] <snorks> Hobbsee: doesn't work
[10:38] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: if you value your data you won't try to write from linux on ntfs
[10:38] <Chousuke> crimsun: yeah, isn't it that weird backend-frontend approach?
[10:38] <snorks> Hobbsee: corrupt boot.ini = no boot
[10:39] <crimsun> Chousuke: I think it makes sense
[10:39] <dooglus> Navatiu: did you see the video here? http://dc5video.debian.net/ogg_theora/2005-07-14/02b-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.ogg - much the same points are covered
[10:39] <vengeful> anyways whats the ntfs partition called?
[10:39] <snorks> thoreauputic: I have to. The C partition will be lost later today if this doesn't work anyway
[10:39] <snorks> vengeful: sda1
[10:39] <Chousuke> crimsun: yeah, it does.
[10:39] <vengeful> ok you made the dir where you want to view it?
[10:40] <snorks> vengeful: yes /mnt/ntfs
[10:40] <vbgunz_> dooglus: what would you say is the best windows player to play ogg files?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> snorks: well, google captive ntfs
[10:40] <Chousuke> backends and frontends should be separated.
[10:40] <dooglus> vbgunz_: I don't know.  I used mplayer for it
[10:40] <dooglus> vbgunz_: I usually use mplayer for everything
[10:40] <andrew> Does anyone have a link to a current sources.list --- I tried copying and pasting the one from ubuntuguide but some of the sources don't exist
[10:40] <thoreauputic> !sources
[10:40] <ubotu> somebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:40] <vbgunz_> I know Ubuntu can play it but currently I am in Windows and would like to see it
[10:41] <p0windah> andrew: stick to the official archive.ubuntu.com ones
[10:41] <andrew> thx
[10:41] <andrew> all
[10:41] <dooglus> vbgunz_: sorry, my brain must have filtered out the word 'windows' in your question.
[10:41] <vengeful> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs
[10:41] <vengeful> if memory serves
[10:41] <dooglus> vbgunz_: maybe it does that when it's near the word 'best'
[10:41] <vbgunz_> dooglus: it's cool, I did a google and think I found something
[10:41] <snorks> vengeful: ive tried that one
[10:41] <Shin_Gouki> hi which command switch shows my free diskspace??
[10:41] <p0windah> df
[10:41] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[10:41] <Chousuke> df -h is better
[10:41] <vbgunz_> dooglus:P
[10:41] <vengeful> and that didnt mount it?
[10:42] <Chousuke> it shows them with GB and MB :P
[10:42] <snorks> vengeful: it mounted it, but not with write permissions
[10:42] <PoStAl> is it alright if I ask general linux questions in here?
[10:42] <vengeful> cant you just chmod it?
[10:42] <vengeful> ive never had need to edit windows from within linux before heh
[10:42] <snorks> vengeful: what's the command?
[10:42] <snorks> vengeful: me neither, this is for a friend
[10:43] <thoreauputic> PoStAl: probably - depends how general
[10:43] <Shin_Gouki> postal hurry and go ahead
[10:43] <refuze2looze> how do i unmount a cdrom that's in use and i don't know what's using it?
[10:43] <vbgunz_> anyone has any links to the best posix reference guide ever?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom
[10:44] <refuze2looze> thoreauputic, ok but now how do i eject it?
[10:44] <rafael> ok look i new in linux my real question is the music the i have on my winamp of windows i want to in the ubuntu player whit amarok i can do that????
[10:44] <glyn> totem xine freezes whenever I run it, what's wrong?
[10:44] <dooglus> a couple of times in the video, Mr. Shuttleworth mentions something called "zorg".  Took me a while to figure out what he meant...
[10:44] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: eject /dev/cdrom
[10:44] <PoStAl> quick thing, i irc alot, trying to replace alot of my old mirc script functions, i just want to do something simple like auto identify, prompt me with a password dialog on connect. I'm using X-Chat and would prefer to do this so that the password isnt displayed on screen.
[10:44] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: use sudo if that doesn't work
[10:44] <dooglus> "zorg" is how you pronounce "x.org"?
[10:45] <Navatiu> heh
[10:45] <Chousuke> I pronounce it xorg :P
[10:45] <vbgunz_> PoStAl X-Chat has a replace function in one of its menus... look for it and you'll find it
[10:45] <dooglus> the "." is silent?
[10:45] <Chousuke> or rather ksorg
[10:45] <Chousuke> :P
[10:45] <refuze2looze> thoreauputic, it gets stuck
[10:45] <dooglus> how do you pronounce "openoffice.org"?
[10:45] <rafael> amarok can do that?
[10:45] <glyn> anyone know what's wrong with my totem player?
[10:46] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: define "stuck"
[10:46] <Chousuke> dooglus: just as it's written, without the org part
[10:46] <glyn> it freezes whenever I try to run it
[10:46] <Chousuke> and using finnish pronunciation.
[10:46] <rafael> :p
[10:46] <refuze2looze> thoreauputic, sudo eject /dev/hdd and then nothing happens, acts like it's still runing the command
[10:46] <Bateau_> hey! iv got this little problem.... when i upload a file to ubuntu (my laptop) it gets chmoded to 640 :x when i upload files to the webdir, the file cant be read so i have to chmod manualy every file to 755. how can i change so that i dont have to chmod manualy
[10:47] <Chousuke> Finnish pronunciation is so damn hard to explain to English speakers even though it's bazillion times simpler :P
[10:47] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: it umounted successfully?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: any error messages?
[10:47] <refuze2looze> thoreauputic, yes it unmounted
[10:47] <p0windah> Chousuke: same with chinese
[10:48] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: and you are sure it is /dev/hdd ?
[10:48] <Chousuke> p0windah: except chinese pronunciation is way more difficult than finnish
[10:48] <osfameron> Hi, anyone know how I can find the "password for default keyring to unlock" which nautilus is asking me for?
[10:48] <andrew> Is amarok the best music player
[10:48] <Chousuke> Finnish doesn't even have much intonation
[10:48] <osfameron> My own password is *not* it
[10:48] <Chousuke> only word stress.
[10:48] <p0windah> Chousuke: 9 tones, but simple particle
[10:48] <p0windah> particles, rather
[10:48] <Shin_Gouki> hi, is there a way to install unicode on ubuntu?
[10:48] <thoreauputic> refuze2looze: ctrl+c and try again
[10:48] <rafael> ok i jus goin to dowload amarok
[10:48] <p0windah> Shin_Gouki: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:49] <vengeful> actually snorks
[10:49] <Chousuke> p0windah: As a general rule you could say Finnish has one sound per letter in the alphabet
[10:49] <vengeful> i dont think this is very safe as ntfs
[10:50] <p0windah> Chousuke: ah ok, strict phonetics ?
[10:50] <Tadej`Certanc> hi
[10:50] <vengeful> i think it would need to be a fat32 to safely write to
[10:50] <rafael> why every time i want to dowload something  the sinaptic program ask me for the ubuntu cd????
[10:50] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: yes, run the command I gave you
[10:50] <Chousuke> it's not always true, but that's what the language officials have tried to achieve in their recommendations about pronunciation
[10:50] <osfameron> rafael: you probably have the CD in your repositories list
[10:50] <p0windah> Chousuke: I imagine that helps improve levels of literacy in your country
[10:51] <osfameron> anyone got any suggestions about this keyring password?
[10:51] <joe__> Oh, I just had a great idea! We should roll all the debs on the depositorys into bz2balls for faster downloading! lol
[10:51] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 mozilla is removed it did work!
[10:51] <Chousuke> p0windah: well, Finnish is easier to read than English, yes.
[10:51] <Chousuke> It wasn't always so though.
[10:51] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, i just dont like it when i need an other command for uninstalling then for install , u know what i mean??
[10:51] <korben78> anyone able to help with configuring xorg to use a 9600xt agp card?
[10:51] <poningru> p0windah: language belongs to the people not to some gov official
[10:52] <rafael> ok  cut you explain that a litlle more
[10:52] <p0windah> Chousuke: you have a national/federal language department ?
[10:52] <Chousuke> poningru: but Finland has an agency that defines "book language"
[10:52] <thoreauputic> guys, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:52] <Chousuke> :P
[10:52] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, I went crazy deleted all the kernels and then installed the kernel package for AMD64 and it works now :)
[10:52] <Chousuke> ie. the formal language one should use in writing, mostly :/
[10:52] <p0windah> we were exploring unicode issues...
[10:53] <Shin_Gouki> ohoh unicode issues?
[10:53] <thoreauputic> p0windah: haha - still #ubuntu-offtopic I say :)
[10:53] <ubuntu> #ojn
[10:53] <ubuntu> ok
[10:53] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, I figured my computer was broken the worst that could happen is I would have to revive my system with livecd *grin*
[10:53] <ubuntu> okl
[10:53] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: then you shouldn't be using apt-get
[10:53] <ubuntu> jas
[10:53] <Chousuke> Let me say this: Acrigola's first attempts at written Finnish look ridiculous to a modern Finn. D:
[10:53] <ubuntu> no
[10:53] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 , what i should be using then?
[10:53] <ubuntu> Haah
[10:53] <Chousuke> he used w, x, c, b, and all weird letters we don't need.
[10:53] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: aptitude or synaptic
[10:54] <ubuntu> talios
[10:54] <osfameron> ah, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47114 shows someone with the same problem and no answer
[10:54] <osfameron> !keyring
[10:54] <ubotu> osfameron: Are you smoking crack?
[10:54] <rafael> diablossssssssssssssssssss i dont understant
[10:54] <ubuntu> ko
[10:54] <osfameron> gah
[10:54] <vbgunz_> rafael: don't quote me but if you sudo into the /apt/etc/sources.lst file (I belive that's it) you can get it to stop *if* you comment the topmost line asking for your CD
[10:54] <talios> 'lo ubuntu
[10:54] <ubuntu> h5zte
[10:54] <ubuntu> rhzt
[10:54] <bob2> rafael: enough
[10:54] <talios> hmm
[10:54] <osfameron> well, not quite the same problem - I don't remember setting a keyring password
[10:54] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, is this gui? i like command prompt and im using icewm
[10:54] <osfameron> but I don't for the life of me know what it is
[10:55] <talios> anyone here know anything about ubuntu's squeak packages?  I see the inisqueak script mentioned, but nothing seems to be installed
[10:55] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: why don't you have a look?
[10:55] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, where do i have to look?
[10:55] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, my ubuntu is a "server" install
[10:56] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, my ubuntu is a "server" install, with custum gui, 550 MB
[10:56] <Zalbor> Hey, have the backport repositories disappeared?
[10:56] <Navatiu> ubuntu can be used as server now?
[10:56] <dooglus> Navatiu: yes.
[10:56] <Navatiu> i recall when i read the post that it seem not ready.. must be old news. :)
[10:56] <vengeful> shin why o why did you make a server install hehe
[10:56] <Shin_Gouki> i like it it rocks for me :D
[10:56] <glyn> how do I install plugins for movies for totem?
[10:56] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: sudo aptitude
[10:57] <vbgunz_> Shin_Gouki: when you install as server you get no GUI correct?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: type aptitude and you will see it doesn't require GUI
[10:57] <Navatiu> hi osf.
[10:57] <osfameron> yay!
[10:57] <Navatiu> heh
[10:57] <Shin_Gouki> woW thx guys ^ ^
[10:57] <Zalbor> I can't reach them at all
[10:57] <glyn> I get the error video codec "MS WMV 9 (win32)" is not handled
[10:57] <Navatiu> i dont want GUI when it come to server install.
[10:57] <bob2> glyn: just use xine or mplayer
[10:57] <vbgunz_> anyone know of the best POSIX reference guide ever!?
[10:57] <bob2> Navatiu: awesome, lucky that's so simple then
[10:57] <bob2> vbgunz_: SUSv3
[10:57] <vbgunz_> I want opinion
[10:58] <Navatiu> :)
[10:58] <Navatiu> that why i never use MS for server install
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> i need it because im only with p 233 mhz , 128 mb ram
[10:58] <dooglus> Chousuke: when you use mplayer, do you see special finnish characters in the subtitles ok?
[10:58] <vengeful> o lol
[10:58] <vbgunz_> bob2: SUSv3?
[10:59] <osfameron> aha http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65663&highlight=keyring suggests how to delete the current keyring..
[10:59] <bob2> vbgunz_: yes, it contains basically all of POSIX, and it's freely available (unlike posix)
[10:59] <glyn> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process what is this?
[10:59] <vbgunz_> is it a pdf? im searching google now
[10:59] <p0windah> glyn: you're using apt or synaptic somewhere else
[11:00] <ninotchka> hi
[11:00] <psycode> i've downloaded openoffice 2.0 and its all RPM's, is there a way to install them on ubuntu ?
[11:00] <p0windah> psycode: openoffice.org2 is already in ubuntu...
[11:00] <dooglus> psycode: installing breezy is probably the easiest way
[11:00] <rafael> nobady in the spanish chanel  crapp
[11:00] <bob2> psycode: why bother? openoffice 2 is in ubuntu already.
[11:00] <vbgunz_> I think I fund something
[11:01] <vbgunz_> bob2: is this what you mean? http://www.unix.org/single_unix_specification/
[11:01] <vbgunz_> bob2: version 3?
[11:01] <bob2> vbgunz_: that looks right
[11:01] <Shin_Gouki> vbgunz_ yes correct i had no gui , but <<kemik>> gave me a very nice LOW level guide based upun server install so it worked dman nice!
[11:01] <vbgunz_> bob2: thank you
[11:01] <vbgunz_> Shin_Gouki: thank you!
[11:01] <bob2> vbgunz_: tho, I dunno if it's what you were asking for
[11:02] <vbgunz_>  I am looking for the universal linux cli commands reference... sort of like cp, mv, etc but will a fuller list... something that will explain a bit too would be nice
[11:02] <psycode> p0windah, bob2, thanks i'm downloading :)
[11:02] <rafael> ahhhhhhh i am to tired  i goin to slepp thanks for your help  see you people
[11:02] <bob2> oh
[11:02] <bob2> vbgunz_: that's probably not what you want then
[11:02] <p0windah> psycode: we live to but serve
[11:03] <Shin_Gouki> vbgunz, u l never learn all command , try  most thing on ur own if u get stuk ask here
[11:03] <Shin_Gouki> vbgunz, this place is babylon u may find ANY answer here!
[11:03] <glyn> I installed mplayer 586 and I get the error new_face failed.  maybe the font path is wrong.  Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[11:03] <bob2> vbgunz_: perhaps http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/
[11:04] <vbgunz_> bob2: nice
[11:04] <vbgunz_> bob2: very nice
[11:04] <vbgunz_> bob2 I hope this is it
[11:05] <vbgunz_> bob2: thats enough to get me started... I wish I had the PDF to it though... I'll see if I can buy it
[11:05] <bob2> vbgunz_: it's from "linux in a nutshell", from o'reilly.  I've heard it's a great book, but I've never read it
[11:05] <korben78> anyone else running a 9600xt and can help me with the xorb.conf?
[11:05] <HrdwrBob> I learnt perl from perl in a nutshell
[11:05] <BurgerMann> I bolloxed when scaling images using the gimp. I accidently scalled images bigger instead of smaller. Now my laptop runs like it was a Windows machine which haven't been booted for 6 months. Is there anyway to free up the memory?
[11:06] <HrdwrBob> it's a great book, gives you what you need to get it done and doesn't assume you're a retard
[11:06] <HrdwrBob> BurgerMann: quit gimp
[11:06] <bob2> BurgerMann: close gimp
[11:06] <HrdwrBob> BurgerMann: other than that, wait until all the apps are swapped back in
[11:06] <vbgunz_> thats exactly what I've been looking for... If I can learn just three commands a day, just three, by the end of a single year, I'll know more than a thousand Linux commands... that would put me in rank amongst the novice ;)
[11:06] <Shin_Gouki> korben what is ur prob?
[11:06] <Shin_Gouki> korben78 what is ur prob?
[11:06] <bob2> vbgunz_: hehe
[11:06] <vbgunz_> bob2: this is almost exactly what I've been looking for ;)
[11:06] <HrdwrBob> vbgunz_: it's not about knowing commands, there are probably under 100 core commands
[11:06] <Kimahri> i have a question... what is the module for the Crystal ISA PnP audio system?
[11:07] <BurgerMann> oh :S
[11:07] <korben78> Shin_Gouki: i have followed the directions from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=dma but it still comes up as using the Mesa 3d drivers
[11:07] <bob2> hm, I wonder if I could grep my shell history to see how many commands I've used in the past month
[11:07] <bob2> probably well under 100
[11:07] <crimsun> Kimahri: depends. snd-cs4236 is what you probably want.
[11:07] <korben78> and im stupmed
[11:07] <korben78> stumped even
[11:07] <glyn> I installed mplayer 586 and I get the error new_face failed.  maybe the font path is wrong.  Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[11:07] <crimsun> Kimahri: if that one doesn't work, try snd-cs4232
[11:08] <vbgunz_> HrdwrBob, I hope I am good... I am a GUI guy but love the standard of the CLI... I just really want to learn it and see how it could make me more effective, I am hoping it will teach me something I've been missing
[11:08] <Shin_Gouki> korben78 what do want ? openGL? ATI drivers runnig?
[11:08] <bob2> glyn: that's fine, ignore it unless you care about subtitles
[11:08] <HrdwrBob> vbgunz_: it's not really hard, just keep playing
[11:08] <Kimahri> crimsun: neither work.
[11:08] <korben78> Shin_Gouki: trying to get the ati 3d support working
[11:09] <glyn> bob2>it won't play a file either
[11:09] <glyn> it just freeezes
[11:09] <korben78> Shin_Gouki: i want it to use the fglrx drivers
[11:09] <crimsun> Kimahri: did you disable pnp in bios?
[11:09] <Shin_Gouki> korben78 i suggest u go to ATI channel, here is more system related stuff
[11:09] <Kimahri> crimsun: it's a laptop, and the sound worked before i got rid of windows
[11:10] <Shin_Gouki> korben78 and im to stupid to help u :/
[11:10] <yanxu> ubuntu contect vpn
[11:10] <korben78> Shin_Gouki: been there, no activity atm.... guess i'll just wait... thanx anyway :)
[11:10] <Shin_Gouki> no then ask here again
[11:11] <Shin_Gouki> with:  trying to get the ati 3d support working, i want it to use the fglrx drivers
[11:11] <Shin_Gouki> korben78 ask again to all they will help u here
[11:11] <korben78> Shin_Gouki: onto it now... thanx :)
[11:12] <crimsun> Kimahri: so what about pnp in bios?
[11:12] <glyn> I just installed mplayer-586 and it won't run
[11:12] <glyn> any advice?
[11:12] <glyn> it just freezes
[11:12] <Kimahri> crimsun: tha ti wouldn't know, because it's still in the same shape i bought it in.  i haven't been in  the bios yet.
[11:12] <crimsun> Kimahri: time to look in bios.
[11:12] <Kimahri> and it takes WAY too long to reboot.
[11:13] <ubuntu> do u know any software other than wine that i can use in my linux
[11:13] <crimsun> Kimahri: well, it's up to you. lspnp -v output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, please.
[11:13] <talios> hey crimsun
[11:13] <crimsun> hi mark
[11:13] <talios> crimsun, do you know anything about ubuntu's squeak packages?
[11:14] <crimsun> talios: nope
[11:14] <talios> they mention an inisqueak script (to create a local workspace and image) but the script doesn't seem to exist (the man page does thou)
[11:14] <ubuntu> hey guys do u have a software where i can install a microsoft package or games
[11:15] <p0windah> ubuntu: linux isnt the best platform for windows games...
[11:16] <Kimahri> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2750
[11:16] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: enble universe and multiverse and you will have about 17 000 packages of software to choose from
[11:16] <glyn> I just installed mplayer-586 and it won't run
[11:16] <Navatiu> yeah p0w true.. that the problem
[11:16] <glyn> it just freezes
[11:16] <glyn> any advice?
[11:16] <glyn> so many errors on Ubuntu, I miss Windows..Heh
[11:16] <Shin_Gouki> hi, what is the command to specify : 1. A DNS Server 2. a Gateway. 3. a Private IP adress
[11:16] <crimsun> talios: please ask ogra about squeak*
[11:17] <thoreauputic> glyn: run it from a terminal, and paste the errors on a pastebin
[11:17] <Kimahri> Shin_Gouki: man interfaces
[11:17] <Navatiu> i use window for something on my primary computer.. secondary computer i use to mess with linux or other stuff.
[11:17] <Navatiu> who know
[11:17] <ubuntu> hi,,, guys
[11:17] <Navatiu> hi ubuntu
[11:17] <ubuntu> I miss windows
[11:18] <ccooke> ubuntu: what do you miss about it?
[11:18] <Shin_Gouki> ubuntu windows is...
[11:18] <BlankB> ubuntu: just curious why did you switch?
[11:18] <Shin_Gouki> i like my ubunut :D
[11:18] <p0windah> Shin_Gouki: 1. /etc/resolv.conf 2,3. /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <Shin_Gouki> its so fast even on 233 mhz :D
[11:18] <PoStAl> my joke sense is tingling.
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> thx p0windah
[11:19] <ales_italia> hi guys
[11:19] <vbgunz_> can Ubuntu read .CHM files?
[11:19] <crimsun> Kimahri: what syntax did you use?
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> of course
[11:19] <Kimahri> crimsun: ?
[11:19] <Belutz> vbgunz_, yes
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> its just comlied help file
[11:19] <crimsun> Kimahri: to load each module
[11:19] <gnarl> sup linux
[11:19] <Kimahri> crimsun: just 'modprobe <module>
[11:19] <Kimahri> '
[11:20] <Navatiu> sup gnarl
[11:20] <vbgunz_> Belutz does Ubuntu read it right out of the box or do I need to install something>?
[11:20] <ndlovu> is there some way to set up a "virtual" printer that automatically pipes through mpage?
[11:20] <Belutz> vbgunz_, you have to install xchm
[11:20] <ndlovu> I'm tired of printing to a file first and then mpaging it to the printer
[11:20] <vbgunz_> Belutz: thank you for that pointer ;)
[11:20] <Belutz> vbgunz_, :)
[11:21] <Shin_Gouki> ^^
[11:21] <p0windah> ndlovu: you know about piping and filtering in bash ? look up ">", "<" and "|"
[11:21] <crimsun> Kimahri: what laptop is this?
[11:21] <fwtest>  hi, i am looking for a rss reader, which can download also the message directly as soon as checking new one, thunderbird cant do this, anyone knows?
[11:21] <Kimahri> crimsun: IBM ThinkPad 380D
[11:21] <Kimahri> crimsun: it's ancient, i know.
[11:21] <selinium_> how do I drop the init level to that of a server?
[11:22] <ndlovu> p0windah: yes, but haven't figured out how to automate the mpage printing without first printing to a .ps file and dropping to the command line.
[11:22] <CzarAlex> Im a linux noob. Id like to update gaim from 1.4.0 to 1.5.0. I downloaded the source, unpackaged it, ran ./configure, make, make install, and then re-clicked on my bottom panal but when i go to Help > About, it still says 1.4.0. What did I do wrong?
[11:22] <Kimahri> CzarAlex: did you restart gaim?
[11:22] <ndlovu> p0windah: I'd like to be able to just print multiple pages per sheet from X
[11:22] <crimsun> Kimahri: try snd-cs4231 then.
[11:23] <Kimahri> crimsun: same stuff.
[11:23] <CzarAlex> Kimahri, only by making sure it was closed off before clicking on the preexisting gaim icon. Even restarted the computer.
[11:23] <Kimahri> CzarAlex: you may have to change the location of gaim from /usr/bin to /usr/local/bin
[11:23] <Kimahri> CzarAlex: on the icon, that is.
[11:23] <p0windah> CzarAlex: you are aware that gaim 1.5.0 is already in ubuntu breezy ?
[11:23] <ubuntu> guys do u know the fedora core 3
[11:23] <CzarAlex> Kimahri, lemme check that.
[11:23] <darkmatter> fwtest: have you tried liferea? it can update at a user specified interval.
[11:24] <CzarAlex> p0windah, Im using horay
[11:24] <ales_italia> i've a problem with SUSPEND TO RAM
[11:24] <p0windah> CzarAlex: its gonna be released in about a week... atleast using the official debs you get updates
[11:24] <p0windah> CzarAlex: the way you're doing it now, you've cut yourself off from ubuntu support and upgrades
[11:25] <bjv> when i apt-get the package 'kdevelop3' it does not work out of the box
[11:25] <bjv> in order to compile any of the example templates requires apt package 'libtool' which is not automagically detected as a dependency and must be gotten manually.
[11:25] <ubuntu> kimari have u install wine in your ubuntu??
[11:25] <CzarAlex> Kimahri, the command for the icon just states gaim. I ran `which gaim` and it points to usr/local/bin
[11:25] <fwtest> darkmatter, can it also download the body instead of only the subject?
[11:25] <bjv> what is this a failure of, and what is the best way to phrase the bugzilla report?
[11:25] <darkmatter> i believe so
[11:25] <ales_italia> i've an HP NX6125....with CPU ADM Turion 64 bit
[11:25] <HrdwrBob> bjv: dependancy failure
[11:25] <CzarAlex> p0windah, I used synaptic and noticed that it said I already had 1.5.0 installed, but Help > About in gaim said otherwise. why is that?
[11:25] <darkmatter> don't have it installed atm
[11:25] <aftertaf> good (GetRelativeTime())  everyone :)
[11:25] <darkmatter> will install and check
[11:25] <ales_italia> i've de-commented the following line: ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE
[11:26] <abcdefg> hello all
[11:26] <antisocialboris> hi, i need help setting up java
[11:26] <abcdefg> can someone help me with wireless?
[11:26] <ales_italia> but the suspend to ram doesn't work
[11:26] <CzarAlex> abcdefg, which adapter?
[11:26] <gnarl> there is a tute on java when u DL it from http://java.com
[11:26] <abcdefg> ath0
[11:26] <ubuntu> any have wine version in ubuntu????
[11:26] <CzarAlex> abcdefg, I mean what brand wireless hardware are you using?
[11:26] <antisocialboris> i followed their instructions when i d/l it but it doesnt seem to be working
[11:26] <abcdefg> zarAlex, I'm not sure. its internal.
[11:27] <Kimahri> abcdefg: what kind of laptop is this?
[11:27] <abcdefg> CzarAlex, it says Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC
[11:27] <Venson> "<ubuntu> any have wine version in ubuntu????" ....recursion? :>
[11:27] <CzarAlex> abcdefg, Okay thats beyond me. If it was wusb11 I could help.
[11:28] <dooglus> control-k has just started making new tabs in gnome-terminal.  is that a new breezy bug?  or did I mess my configuration up?
[11:28] <mshade> how do I specify pop and smtp ports in evolution?
[11:28] <abcdefg> Kimahri its a Toshiba
[11:28] <ales_italia> help with suspend_to_ram????
[11:28] <Kimahri> abcdefg: atheros AR5212... lemme check to see which kernel module it is.  i can get you at least that far.
[11:28] <Shin_Gouki> ales what is ur hardware
[11:28] <p0windah> CzarAlex: I have 1.5 installed in breezy and it works
[11:29] <ubuntu> <venson > do u have software where in can install a MS plaform???
[11:29] <abcdefg> ok Kimahri, thanks ^_^
[11:29] <Shin_Gouki> ales_italia describe ur problem a bit more detailed plz :)
[11:29] <ales_italia> do you mean what kind of pc i use?
[11:29] <ales_italia> ...ok
[11:29] <p0windah> CzarAlex: hepl says 1.5 correctly, you may have compiled gaim, but it seems you have not installed it correctly
[11:29] <CzarAlex> p0windah, is the process to ./configure, make, make install?
[11:29] <Venson> ubuntu: erm...no. Wine or Cedega or Crossover do those tricks, just so you know
[11:29] <ales_italia> i try to follow the wiki.....so i do this:
[11:29] <ales_italia> open a  terminal
[11:30] <ndlovu> If I choose print to file, can I insert a command there? So instead of specifying a .ps file, rather something like 'mpage -4 | lpr'?
[11:30] <ales_italia> sudo vim /etc/default/acpi-support
[11:30] <Venson> ubuntu: however, my philosophy is - if you want to use win apps, use windoze.....
[11:30] <Kimahri> abcdefg: or maybe not...
[11:30] <p0windah> CzarAlex: yes, but: sudo make install
[11:30] <ales_italia> i've de-commented the following line: ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE
[11:30] <CzarAlex> p0windah, Oo! would that cause the issues im having?
[11:30] <ales_italia> after i rebooted my machine
[11:30] <antisocialboris> i d/l jre-1... .bin and ran it in /usr/java and installed it, how do i get ff to notice it and work?
[11:30] <ales_italia> and i've tried to suspend it
[11:31] <Kimahri> crimsun: any ideas on what i should do about my sound?
[11:31] <p0windah> CzarAlex: typically, yes
[11:31] <ubuntu> venson what  is that?? is that a software by Microsoft? or a linux platform>
[11:31] <Shin_Gouki> ales_italia i know its hard but try to write in 2 TWO sentences so people can read ur problem
[11:31] <abcdefg> what is a ESSID?
[11:31] <crimsun> Kimahri: sec
[11:31] <CzarAlex> p0windah, okay thank you.
[11:31] <Venson> ubuntu: heh...all linux programs.
[11:31] <Venson> ubuntu: look them up
[11:31] <Shin_Gouki> ales_italia i know its hard but try to write in 2 TWO sentences so people can read ur problem
[11:31] <selinium_> Hi guys, how do I change the (i think this is right) init level to switch off all GDM stuff and leave me with command line?
[11:32] <aftertaf> selinium:  you can sudo init 1
[11:32] <Venson> selinium: /etc/inittab.....change the default from 4 or 5, to 3
[11:32] <aftertaf> if you have things like unmounting of /home to do
[11:32] <ubuntu> kimahri... may i asked u a thing
[11:32] <ales_italia> screen becomes black and machine doesn't suspend itself if i try to resume it i can...but i can't shutdown or reboot it
[11:32] <Kimahri> selinium_: init 3
[11:32] <Venson> selinium: that's a permanent change, btw....you can always change it back if you like.
[11:32] <aftertaf> selinium:  but you dont need to change init level just to kill X and go to cmd line
[11:32] <thoreauputic> selinium: don't - use sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop|restart
[11:32] <ubuntu> venson... ok .. where can i found those??
[11:33] <Venson> ubuntu: www.google.com
[11:33] <CzarAlex> If im running kubuntu, will I be able to update to breezy?
[11:33] <aftertaf> CzarAlex:  yes
[11:33] <Skid> whens breezy going to be released stable?
[11:33] <Skid> the 13th ?
[11:33] <Kimahri> Skid: see /topic
[11:33] <thoreauputic> OCt 13
[11:33] <SpaceNuts> yes
[11:33] <p0windah> CzarAlex: you can upgrade right now if you like
[11:33] <aftertaf> selinium:  what are you wanting to do?
[11:33] <aftertaf> hi thoreauputic :)
[11:33] <thoreauputic> hi aftertaf :)
[11:33] <CzarAlex> p0windah, Shoudldnt i wait for the official release the 13th?
[11:33] <CzarAlex> aftertaf, thank you
[11:34] <ubuntu> venson... ok thank.. do u used this windoze??
[11:34] <p0windah> CzarAlex: I think if you are comfortable compiling your own applications, you should be fine
[11:34] <Bateau_> when i upload a file to ubuntu (my laptop) it gets chmoded to 640. when i upload files to the webdir, the file cant be read so i have to chmod manualy every file to 755. how can i change so that i dont have to chmod manualy?
[11:34] <Venson> ubuntu: erm...windoze = MS Windows (tm)
[11:34] <Venson> ubuntu: you must be new to linux =)
[11:34] <crimsun> Kimahri: you'll need to reboot and see if there's a "quick boot" option in it. If so, disable it.
[11:34] <selinium_> aftertaf: I am runnning a PC a work, i just want to shut down all non-essential stuff and leave it running as a server till I get back to the office.
[11:34] <crimsun> Kimahri: in bios, that is.
[11:35] <p0windah> selinium: screensaver ?
[11:35] <thoreauputic> selinium: then use my command - init 1 turns off networking
[11:35] <selinium_> hi thoreauputic :)
[11:35] <aftertaf> selinium:  ok, then you can do the invoke gdm stop thingy thoreauputic mentioned...; but
[11:35] <ubuntu> venson.. what kind of linux do u used now??
[11:35] <vbgunz_> damn... I din't ask for too much... I just had to kill Firefox :(
[11:35] <tenzin> hello guys I have a question: In the Ubuntumenue (breezy) I dont find anymore the "starter-menu" (there where I can configure my grub at startup) I need to add MS back on grub....with wich command can I start it from the console?
[11:35] <CzarAlex> p0windah, comfortable? :) I feel like Im going to be sick when I do it. heh We`ll see :)
[11:35] <darkmatter> fwtest:yes
[11:35] <selinium_> thoreauputic, what about init3 ?
[11:35] <Venson> ubuntu: Slackware
[11:35] <Kimahri> crimsun: well crap.  means i need to login to my desktop.
[11:35] <thoreauputic> selinium: won't do anything on ubuntu/debian
[11:36] <vbgunz_> tenzin, I believe they removed it for good... I don't have it either but you can sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit it by hand
[11:36] <ubuntu> venson... do u install any games in ur linux?
[11:36] <thoreauputic> selinium: debian distros don't use level 3 as cli
[11:36] <selinium_> thoreauputic how do you keep all this info in without your head exploding? :)
[11:36] <Venson> ubuntu: no. i do not game.
[11:36] <Tadej`Certanc> hi ppl
[11:36] <thoreauputic> selinium: heh
[11:36] <Kimahri> selinium_: i believe that debian distros use level 2 as CLI
[11:36] <Tadej`Certanc> how come that I dont have grub.conf?
[11:36] <p0windah> selinium: I have balloons attached to my ears
[11:36] <ubuntu> venson.. any MS platform??
[11:36] <Kimahri> Tadej`Certanc: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:36] <Tadej`Certanc> does ubuntu use grub boot loader?
[11:36] <tenzin> vbgunz: thx I try that (very poor that they removed it...it was beautyfull)
[11:36] <aftertaf> Kimahri:  nope.... init 2 is the default renlevel
[11:36] <Tadej`Certanc> Kimahri: thanks
[11:36] <Venson> ubuntu: can you please speak in full sentences so i don't have to guess?
[11:37] <vbgunz_> tenzin: I actuallyt mentioned it in here a couple days ago and nobody ever seened it before :P
[11:37] <ubuntu> venson.. have u install any Microsoft platform in ur linux??
[11:38] <Venson> ubuntu: that question makes no sense unless you're referring to something like VMWare
[11:38] <selinium_> thoreauputic, can you explain sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop|restart     for me. I like to konw why/what i am typing!
[11:38] <Venson> ubuntu: if you're asking me if i install Windows apps under linux, the answer is no
[11:38] <thoreauputic> init 1 = no network, CLI : init 2 = default for evrything else
[11:38] <vbgunz_> Venson: you just gave him what he was looking for...
[11:38] <abcdefg> how do you reconfigure your eathernet card?
[11:38] <tenzin> vbgunz: hehe
[11:38] <Kimahri> selinium_: just /etc/init.d/gdm stop will kill X
[11:38] <thoreauputic> selinium: you are shutting down / restarting the display manager
[11:38] <Shin_Gouki> abcdefg --> use ifconfig
[11:39] <thoreauputic> selinium:  sudo invoke-rc.d does the same as sudo /etc/init.d/
[11:39] <ubuntu> venson,,, ok.... im using the ubuntu now but i want to install game any software will u recommend??
[11:39] <Venson> vbgunz_: people say i do have a way with newbies
[11:39] <selinium_> thoreauputic, Oh, cheers, I am used to the other way. :)
[11:39] <vbgunz_> Venson: how are you with ubern00bs?
[11:40] <thoreauputic> selinium: either way - invoke-rc.d is just a shorthand
[11:40] <jmg> ok guys i want to file a bug on the state of suspend in my laptop but what package should i file it under? acpi or klaptop?
[11:40] <Shin_Gouki> there is no such thing as a newbie, there are things which opeople dont know baed upon varied topics :D
[11:40] <Venson> vbgunz_: i eat them lol....jk. i've dealt with all kinds, really
[11:40] <CzarAlex> whats the console command to check what kernel version i have
[11:40] <jmg> CzarAlex: uname -a
[11:40] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: i beg to differ.  you can tab-complete /etc/init.d/
[11:40] <CzarAlex> jmg, thank you.
[11:40] <egoleo> hello
[11:40] <vbgunz_> Venson: it's just funny seeing your conversation between you and Ubuntu...
[11:40] <thoreauputic> selinium: sudo /etc/init.d/* has the advantage that tab completion can be used
[11:40] <egoleo> Ubuntu breezy?
[11:41] <Venson> vbgunz_: yeah...i suppose there's a language barrier involved somewhere in there
[11:41] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: yes, I just added that - you're right of course
[11:41] <egoleo> having problem with mysql on Ubuntu breezy
[11:41] <abcdefg> can someone help me with the install of ubuntu?
[11:41] <CzarAlex> egoleo, ive used it on hoary, perhaps I can help
[11:41] <egoleo> abcdefg
[11:41] <egoleo> u have the cd
[11:41] <egoleo> ok
[11:41] <egoleo> given me this error
[11:41] <ubuntu> hehhe.. im just curious guys.. and i just new with this linux thing..
[11:41] <Shin_Gouki> abcdefg, whats ur native language if it other then english i suggest go to ur native langue support channel : like: #ubuntu-fr or ubuntu-de
[11:42] <vbgunz_> dagnabit... frigging firefox keep freezing... no one worry, I am Windows and i am a professional...
[11:42] <p0windah> abcdefg: ask your questions and we'll try to help you out
[11:42] <Kimahri> crimsun: rebooting the laptop now
[11:42] <egoleo> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.
[11:42] <egoleo>         Please take a look at the syslog.
[11:42] <egoleo> /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[11:42] <egoleo> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[11:42] <egoleo> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[11:42] <selinium_> CHeers all for your help
[11:42] <abcdefg> what kernal should I install? linux-386 linux-image-386 linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 ???
[11:42] <Venson> egoleo: install mysql-server yet?
[11:42] <vbgunz_> ok, I just killed firefox and will reformat and repartition the pc... brb
[11:42] <egoleo> yeah
[11:42] <egoleo> i have
[11:43] <abcdefg> what kernal should I install? linux-386 linux-image-386 linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 ???
[11:43] <CzarAlex> egoleo, did you follow the directions at ubuntuguide.org?
[11:43] <Venson> egoleo: double check it for me again
[11:43] <Navatiu> ... vbgunz. your firefox failed and you reformat? :)
[11:43] <abcdefg> what kernal should I install? linux-386, linux-image-386, or linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 ???
[11:43] <selinium_> egoleo, dont paste in this channel! :) use pastebin
[11:43] <egoleo> i have ok
[11:43] <p0windah> abcdefg: whats your cpu ?
[11:43] <Shin_Gouki> abcdefg, whats ur native language?
[11:43] <egoleo> ok
[11:43] <vbgunz_> Navatiu: I got it down packed... be up and running in 10
[11:43] <egoleo> thnx
[11:44] <vbgunz_> :P
[11:44] <abcdefg> 3.0ghz pent 4
[11:44] <abcdefg> I'm American.
[11:44] <egoleo> so how do i get it working
[11:44] <Navatiu> ok
[11:44] <Shin_Gouki> ok then good luck here ^^
[11:44] <selinium_> egoleo, what are you trrying to do?
[11:44] <egoleo> i just installed the mysql-server
[11:44] <vbgunz_> Navatiu: I am just kidding... Firefox just acting funny atm
[11:45] <egoleo> and want to start it
[11:45] <Navatiu> ah
[11:45] <selinium_> egoleo, Here is the walk through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:45] <egoleo> and its given me that error
[11:45] <Navatiu> no way i would reformat just because firefox crash. heh
[11:45] <Navatiu> or rather freeze heh
[11:45] <mahangu> can I do dual monitors?
[11:45] <abcdefg> p0windah, I have a pent 4 3.0ghz processor.
[11:45] <egoleo> ok
[11:45] <egoleo> trying it
[11:45] <Nermal> abcdefg: poor thing
[11:45] <Nermal> install linux-686
[11:46] <selinium_> egoleo, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[11:46] <abcdefg> me Nermal?
[11:46] <p0windah> abcdefg: apt-get install
[11:46] <Nermal> yes
[11:46] <abcdefg> ok thanks ^_^
[11:46] <p0windah> abcdefg: linux-686
[11:46] <p0windah> oopsie :)
[11:46] <selinium_> egoleo, if all installed correctly
[11:46] <egoleo> that is what i was doing it was given me that problem
[11:46] <mahangu> how can i check if my video card supports it?
[11:46] <egoleo> yeah
[11:46] <vbgunz_> Navatiu: I need to reformat repartition my bed... I am sleepy
[11:46] <CzarAlex> Which application can I use? I want to plug in a frequency scanner and have the ambulance dispatches streamed to other people across the internet. I already have a working webserver up on the box.
[11:47] <selinium_> how did you install mysql? Have you connected it apache?
[11:47] <Navatiu> heh
[11:47] <Navatiu> ok vbgunz
[11:47] <Navatiu> have a good sleep, vbgunz
[11:48] <vbgunz_> Navatiu: not going to sleep, am googling for something *but* I am dead tired and I should be hitting the sheets
[11:48] <Kimahri> crimsun: i'm in the bios now... what am i looking for?
[11:49] <abcdefg> is anyone on a wireless connection?
[11:49] <abcdefg> because I'm having issues
[11:49] <vbgunz_> abcdefg: whats the issue?
[11:49] <vbgunz_> abcdefg: whats the OS you on?
[11:49] <vbgunz_> abcdefg: whats the issue?
[11:49] <abcdefg> my wireless can't find the network.
[11:49] <vbgunz_> abcdefg: sorry, I didn't know I typed that twice :P
[11:50] <abcdefg> My OS is Ubuntu Linux.
[11:50] <crimsun> Kimahri: "quick boot" or something along those lines
[11:50] <vbgunz_> your wireless card is configured and active?
[11:50] <selinium_> egoleo, have you connect MySQL to the apache?
[11:50] <p0windah> *gasp*
[11:50] <abcdefg> I belive so vbgunz_
[11:50] <Kimahri> crimsun: there is no option like that in there.
[11:51] <vbgunz_> double check, I had an issue once where my wireless card kept getting deactivated for no reason
[11:51] <Kimahri> remember this is a laptop, designed to get out of the bios as fast as possible.
[11:51] <abcdefg> ok
[11:52] <egoleo> i just want only mysql
[11:52] <mwql> how would i set up ssh tunnelling?
[11:52] <Kimahri> mwql: man ssh
[11:52] <mwql> kmahri: i have, but am really stuck
[11:53] <Bateau_> when i upload a file to ubuntu (my laptop) it gets chmoded to 640. when i upload files to the webdir, the file cant be read so i have to chmod manualy every file to 755. how can i change so that i dont have to chmod manualy?
[11:53] <Kimahri> mwql: all a tunnel is is basic port forwarding
[11:53] <mwql> Kimahri: thx for the tip, i didnt know that
[11:53] <p0windah> Bateau_: how are you uploading them ?
[11:53] <johnnybezak> is there a way to get OOo to use the gnome theme
[11:53] <iru> bateau : upload under the username of apache user
[11:53] <johnnybezak> mines all ugly and silver
[11:54] <CzarAlex> what program can I use to stream audio from a microphone to others?
[11:54] <p0windah> CzarAlex: gnomemeeting
[11:54] <Bateau_> i upload to public_html dir of the user i upload with. i use FTP
[11:54] <p0windah> Bateau_: look in your ftp servers configuration files then
[11:54] <CzarAlex> p0windah, hmm..does that allow someone to connect via a webaddy and open up something like Win Media player (most users will be on windowz)
[11:55] <johnnybezak> its cool found the package
[11:55] <Bateau_> p0windah: where can i find that?
[11:55] <iru> bateau: i don't know if ftp uses it, but file creation mask (umask) usually set in .profile
[11:55] <p0windah> CzarAlex: its comparable to netmeeting I believe
[11:55] <p0windah> Bateau_: typically in /etc/
[11:55] <ales_italia> HP NX6125 AMD Turion 64bit 80 GB HD 512 RAM. Problem with suspend to ram, i inserted the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support file, i rebooted and restarted the machine and tried to suspend it, but it doesn?t work! The screen is black, but it doesn't switch off itself, if i try to resume it, i can do it, but i can't shutdown or reboot it. Any ideas?
[11:55] <vbgunz_> I have a general question... I have another computer in the room with me... no one is using it so how can I take advantage of it's processing power? Sort of like my own personal SETI project... a teeneeweenee grid so to say...
[11:55] <CzarAlex> p0windah, ok thanks.
[11:55] <crimsun> Kimahri: disable pnp os
[11:55] <Kimahri> crimsun: no such option in bios.
[11:56] <crimsun> you don't have a Plug n play option at all?
[11:56] <Kimahri> crimsun: nope.
[11:56] <crimsun> ugh, this is going to be messy
[11:56] <Kimahri> crimsun: it uses a proprietary ibm bios.
[11:56] <Kimahri> it's not the standard Award / Phoenix i'm used to :)
[11:57] <crimsun> no quick boot/fast boot/easy boot, etc?
[11:57] <Kimahri> lol nope.
[11:57] <Bateau_> p0windah: i cant find anything there
[11:57] <selinium_> egoleo, How are you getting on?
[11:57] <p0windah> Bateau_: whats the name of the ftp server you installed ?
[11:57] <crimsun> Kimahri: ok, you'll need to pass the parameters to modprobe explicitly then
[11:57] <Kimahri> crimsun: using old hardware is an exercise in patience.
[11:57] <crimsun> Kimahri: or try the ps2.exe utility
[11:57] <Bateau_> p0windah: i dont realy know. ftp just worked when i installed :x
[11:57] <Kimahri> crimsun: so you want me to reboot it?
[11:57] <selinium_> vbgunz_ yep!
[11:57] <Kimahri> crimsun: it's linux only, so i don't know if i can use .exe files.
[11:58] <p0windah> whats the default ftp daemon for ubuntu ?
[11:58] <crimsun> Kimahri: sure. If you don't have any of those options, there's nothing much to be done except to brute-force the module parameters
[11:58] <Kimahri> crimsun: ok... brb.  i have time for a cigarette while its rebooting
[11:58] <vbgunz_> selinium_ hello
[11:59] <Kimahri> crimsun: pretty sad, eh?
[11:59] <abcdefg> does this distro use apt-get?
[11:59] <selinium_> vbgunz_ I can send you a file with the details on how to do it.. if you want. Ita full tutorial
[11:59] <Kimahri> abcdefg: yes it does
[11:59] <Kimahri> -brb-
[11:59] <selinium_> vbgunz_, the SETI thing
[11:59] <ales_italia> HP NX6125 AMD Turion 64bit 80 GB HD 512 RAM. Problem with suspend to ram, i inserted the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support file, i rebooted and restarted the machine and tried to suspend it, but it doesn?t work! The screen is black, but it doesn't switch off itself, if i try to resume it, i can do it, but i can't shutdown or reboot it. Any Ideas?
[11:59] <alpha> Hello, what is the name of the main ubuntu config/update tool?
[11:59] <vbgunz_> selinium: oh you man the grid
[12:00] <Shin_Gouki> alpha, apt-get?
[12:00] <Shin_Gouki> alpha, aptitude?
[12:00] <alpha> thanks
[12:00] <selinium_> ales_italia, the gui is synaptic
[12:00] <ales_italia> what do you mena?
[12:00] <selinium_> alpha, , the gui is synaptic
[12:00] <vbgunz_> sure, send me docs thats a blessing... I have 2 2.8 more than 2G ram together ... that'll be nice
[12:00] <Bateau_> p0windah: how can i find out?
[12:00] <alpha> aptiude it was, thank you :)
[12:00] <selinium_> ales_italia, Sorry tabbedthe wrong nick :)
[12:00] <ales_italia> ok
[12:00] <ales_italia> :)
[12:00] <glyn> can anyone help me please to get a movie player that can play certain wmv files?  it'd be a blessing to get this to work
[12:00] <ales_italia> no problem!
[12:00] <crimsun> Kimahri: apologies if my responses are lagged. I have a highly critical ALSA bug to squash by this afternoon.
[12:01] <p0windah> Bateau_: open a terminal and type "ftp localhost"
[12:01] <Shin_Gouki> hey someone help him ^
[12:01] <Shin_Gouki> ^ ^
[12:01] <Bateau_> p0windah: 220 localhost.localdomain FTP server (Version 6.4/OpenBSD/Linux-ftpd-0.17) ready.
[12:01] <darkmatter> glyn: vlc does this. so does xine and mplayer
[12:02] <Shin_Gouki> hi what is the config tool for ubuntu standard firewall?
[12:02] <selinium_> vbgunz_, ok just downloading to my machine from my other one! :)
[12:02] <p0windah> Bateau_: type "man ftpd"
[12:02] <vbgunz_> cool selinium_ do you see a difference?
[12:02] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: there are several - the easiest is probably firestarter
[12:02] <darkmatter> Shin_Gouki: if you need a gui firewall, insatll firestarter
[12:02] <Nvidiot> Okay, I *must* be overlooking something silly, but I can't seem to install libdvdcss2. apt-get tells me it can't find it. I have added the multiverse repository to the sources.list... http://pastebin.com/382473 that's my sources.list
[12:03] <p0windah> Bateau_: or to quickly track down the config files, type "dpkg -L ftpd | grep \/etc"
[12:03] <Shin_Gouki> i did the ubnuntu server install what firewall IS there on by DEFAULT?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: erm - no
[12:03] <darkmatter> Shin_Gouki:iptables
[12:03] <Shin_Gouki> no firewall by default?
[12:03] <Shin_Gouki> O_O
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: iptables is built in to the kernel
[12:03] <Shin_Gouki> ic
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: there's no servers listening by default
[12:04] <Shin_Gouki> if i install now firestarter will there be any conflicts?
[12:04] <selinium_> vbgunz_, I have offered you the file :)
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: no
[12:04] <alpha> How do I configure a ISA sound card under ubuntu?
[12:04] <darkmatter> Shin_Gouki:no
[12:04] <Shin_Gouki> do i need to disable , iptables?
[12:04] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[12:04] <thoreauputic> no
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you only need a firewall if you run internet services
[12:04] <vbgunz_> ok accepted
[12:04] <Myrtti> would you guys have any ideas on how to convert a wma file to mp3 or ogg without mplayer?
[12:04] <vbgunz_> selinium_ I am downloading it now
[12:05] <Kimahri> crimsun: it's alright.  ok... i'm staring at a login screen, so tell me what to do :)
[12:05] <Shin_Gouki> throeauputic, i am paranoid i need ALWAYS a firewall :)
[12:05] <selinium_> vbgunz_, There you go, have fun!
[12:05] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: Ubuntu ships without any "listening" ports
[12:05] <Shin_Gouki> throeauputic, that is kinda a relief
[12:05] <Shin_Gouki> throeauputic, that is kinda a relief, unlike windows u guess :D
[12:05] <thoreauputic> indeed
[12:05] <CzarAlex> thanks for the help guys. have a good morning.
[12:06] <Nvidiot> any idea about the libdvdcss2 ?
[12:06] <mwql> Kimahri: remote port forwarding --> is that a tunnel success?
[12:06] <Shin_Gouki> can someonle plz help: ales_italia?
[12:06] <Kimahri> mwql: dunno... i hardly have reason to tunnel stuff through
[12:06] <vbgunz_> selinium_ i am currently in Windows working and waiting on someone but when I boot into Ubuntu, I will give it a serious check as I've always been so interested in it. Thank you so much. Do you experience the difference in any way on your network?
[12:07] <crimsun> Kimahri: log in, open a Terminal
[12:07] <Nvidiot> it has to be something silly I'm overlooking here, but I've got no idea what it can be... I followed the info on the wiki and the unofficial starter guide, but it doesn't work
[12:07] <Kimahri> crimsun: no need... already ssh'd to it
[12:07] <bigfoot1> How can I make my desktop display a webpage (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/personalapplet.html). I want to display the time of various countries.
[12:08] <ales_italia> HP NX6125 AMD Turion 64bit 80 GB HD 512 RAM. Problem with suspend to ram, i inserted the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support file, i rebooted and restarted the machine and tried to suspend it, but it doesn?t work! The screen is black, but it doesn't switch off itself, if i try to resume it, i can do it, but i can't shutdown or reboot it. Any Ideas?
[12:08] <glyn> darkmatter>I installed VLC, yet when I open the wmv file I'm trying to play, I get no sound nor video
[12:08] <Navatiu> maybe you need W32codec?
[12:08] <Bateau_> p0windah: i cant find anything :(
[12:08] <lamer1> I've installed prismstumbler but Icon on my Applications menu points to /usr/bin/pts ( wich does no exist ) is some mistake or am I missing something...?
[12:09] <glyn> where do I get w32 codec?
[12:09] <Shin_Gouki> question: i installed printer-drivers, do i need to reboot system get things workin?
[12:09] <glyn> well VLC isn't even playing mp3s
[12:09] <Nvidiot> glyn: it's on the wiki
[12:09] <glyn> it seems whatever media player I try, it doesn't work
[12:09] <Nvidiot> glyn: you have to install a library first
[12:09] <darkmatter> glyn:easiest way is to grab EasyUbuntu from the forums
[12:09] <Shin_Gouki> question: i installed printer-drivers(apt-get install cupsomatic-ppd), do i need to reboot system get things workin?
[12:10] <glyn> install a library..how?
[12:10] <Nvidiot> glyn: read this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[12:11] <Nvidiot> glyn: note that I am stuck with libdvdcss2 that's mentioned there
[12:11] <selinium_> Shin_Gouki, you do not neeed to reboot with linux. Sometimes you mat need to restart the application
[12:11] <crimsun> Kimahri: try: sudo modprobe snd-cs4236 isapnp=0 dma2=0 dma1=1 irq=5 sb_port=0x220 fm_port=0x388 mpu_port=0x201 cport=0x538 port=0x534
[12:11] <selinium_> Shin_Gouki, what printer are you trying to get working?
[12:11] <Kimahri> crimsun: of course leaving out the sudo part because i set the root password.
[12:11] <Shin_Gouki> selinium, what application i need to restart after installing pritner drivers?
[12:12] <Shin_Gouki> selinium, HP. DJ 690C
[12:12] <rekrutacja>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY kasia
[12:12] <selinium_> shawarma,  none, system/admin/printers   gui for installing printers
[12:12] <rekrutacja> ooops :-)))
[12:12] <korben78> heh... time to change the password :P
[12:12] <Nvidiot> rekrutacja: time to change the password :P
[12:13] <abcdefg> how do you make a new network connection in ubuntu?
[12:13] <Nvidiot> and next time type that in the status window, not in a channel window :P
[12:13] <Kimahri> crimsun: FATAL: Error inserting snd_cs4236 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.ko): No such device
[12:13] <Kimahri> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_cs4236
[12:13] <glyn> hmm another error..I can't run synaptic.  "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[12:13] <selinium_> vbgunz_, What do you think?
[12:13] <kikinovak> Hi. I just installed a dhcp server (ubuntu, 'server') on a small LAN, and it rocks. Q: how is hostname attribution supposed to be managed? In each machine's /etc/hostname? Or via dhcpd.conf?
[12:13] <lamer1> I've installed prismstumbler but Icon on my Applications menu points to /usr/bin/pts ( wich does no exist ) is there some mistake or am I missing something...?
[12:13] <vbgunz_> selinium_ sorry, I am not in Ubuntu at the moment
[12:13] <korben78> Nvidiot: great minds eh?? ;)
[12:13] <iru> abcd, u sound like gates man
[12:14] <crimsun> Kimahri: ok, try snd-cs4232 with those parameters
[12:14] <iru> we don't have no network neighbourhood and new network conections on linux
[12:14] <Shin_Gouki> what do i need to get my Printer: HP DJ 690C workin?
[12:14] <Nvidiot> korben78: I've been on irc for a while, it suprises me he wasn't ghosted after one second :)
[12:14] <Kimahri> crimsun: same
[12:14] <crimsun> Kimahri: remove isapnp=0
[12:15] <Nvidiot> I *must* be overlooking something silly, but I can't seem to install libdvdcss2. apt-get tells me it can't find it. I have added the multiverse repository to the sources.list... http://pastebin.com/382473 that's my sources.list
[12:15] <Kimahri> crimsun: same.
[12:15] <crimsun> Kimahri: with snd-cs4236, too?
[12:15] <aaron> hi all
[12:15] <Kimahri> crimsun: yep
[12:15] <mouhahaha> helo
[12:15] <crimsun> Kimahri: ok, then you have to find a way to disable plug n play on that bios.
[12:15] <Shin_Gouki> hi question: what do i need to get my Printer: HP DJ 690C workin?
[12:15] <aaron> how do you make the network connection icon work? when using a new connection?
[12:15] <crimsun> Kimahri: try looking on the various thinkpad resources
[12:16] <DjKritical> Can anyone tell me how to restart the 'sound' service?...
[12:16] <Nvidiot> aaron: set the properties of the network icon to the proper network card. I've got two, one for my wireless, the other one for my non-wired port
[12:16] <Kimahri> crimsun: sound isn't *that* important... i normally only run nxclient on it, and i was just trying to figure out how to make it work so i could forward sound through
[12:17] <aaron> thanks Nvidiot
[12:17] <aaron> ^_^
[12:17] <Nvidiot> DjKritical: I suppose one could unload the sound kernel module and load it again... not exactly the cleanest way though
[12:17] <aaron> how do I become root user in gnome with ubuntu?
[12:17] <crimsun> DjKritical: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-restart
[12:17] <Hendric> can anyone help me with samba? i shared a folder from this computer using the "Shared Folders" GUI.. but still i can't access them coz its asking for a password..
[12:17] <Kimahri> DjKritical: /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[12:18] <DjKritical> Well... the reason being.. I have usb headphones + onboard sound... and my onboard sound has stopped working!
[12:18] <Nvidiot> aaron: you do things with "sudo command_here"
[12:18] <Kimahri> aaron: use gksu
[12:18] <aaron> ok thanks Nvidiot
[12:18] <DjKritical> alsa?... quick question... arn't I using ESD by default?...
[12:18] <Shin_Gouki> plz were i may find printer driver support?
[12:18] <crimsun> DjKritical: err, make that force-reload
[12:18] <crimsun> DjKritical: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[12:18] <Kimahri> DjKritical: ESD runs on top of alsa... ESD is a software mixer
[12:18] <DjKritical> ahh I see
[12:19] <crimsun> in Breezy you can select the default sound device that esd uses
[12:19] <DjKritical> in the multimedia selection... which should I choose?
[12:19] <DjKritical> breezy?... but not in hoary?
[12:19] <crimsun> not in Hoary.
[12:19] <korben78> Nvidiot: check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67655
[12:19] <locomorto> Personally I think artsd works much better then esd
[12:19] <DjKritical> mybe I should upgrade =)
[12:19] <Kimahri> locomorto: personally... i think both suck, as my sound card has hardware mixing
[12:20] <thoreauputic> locomorto: *anything* works better than esd
[12:20] <locomorto> But most people dont have a hardware mixer
[12:20] <Kimahri> locomorto: if you have an SB! live or better, you do :)
[12:20] <DjKritical> I do I do :D
[12:20] <ales_italia>
[12:20] <Kimahri> DjKritical: not talking about DJ equipment :P
[12:20] <Nvidiot> korben78: I can't search... lol But why is this not on any of the ubuntu mirrors?
[12:20] <DjKritical> oh... nevermind lol
[12:21] <glyn> I have an error..I can't run synaptic.  "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[12:21] <aaron> what is a good MP3player for ubuntu?
[12:21] <Kimahri> glyn: use aptitude.
[12:21] <rekrutacja> how to change password on freenode? faq says nothing about it...
[12:21] <Kimahri> rekrutacja: /msg nickserv help
[12:21] <thoreauputic> glyn: try sudo chown youruser:youruser ~/.Xauthority
[12:21] <bigfoot1> TO anyone: how can i get world time on my desktop/ubuntu? what's the easy way?
[12:22] <selinium_> aaron xmms or beep-media-player
[12:22] <thoreauputic> glyn: where "youruser" is glyn or whatever
[12:22] <selinium_> aaron you will need to enable mp3 playback
[12:22] <glyn> what is the ~/?
[12:22] <locomorto> aaron: rhythmbox is not horrible either
[12:22] <aaron> how do I do that selinium?
[12:22] <glyn> directory path?
[12:22] <Kimahri> glyn: ~/ is shorthand for /home/<user>
[12:22] <DjKritical> I don't suppose there is a way to upgrade to breezy from hoary?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> glyn: just means your home directory
[12:22] <locomorto> !tell aaron about mp3
[12:22] <selinium_> !tell aaron about mp3
[12:23] <Bateau_> how much space does Ubuntu need? will a 9Gb disk be enough?
[12:23] <selinium_> lol
[12:23] <locomorto> Bateau_: yes
[12:23] <Skid> Bateau_: yeah, plenty
[12:23] <locomorto> selinium_: too slow :P
[12:23] <selinium_> aaron, you have just been told...twice! :)
[12:23] <guowei> will 4Gb be enough?
[12:23] <Kimahri> Bateau_: yes, it'll be plenty.  i have ubuntu running on an ancient laptop with only a 2G hard disk
[12:23] <Skid> I've had it on a 1.2GB drive before
[12:23] <selinium_> locomorto, indeed!
[12:23] <Bateau_> cause i just got a msg in the install, that there was not enough disk space :x
[12:23] <rekrutacja> Kimahri thanks
[12:23] <locomorto> Bateau_: is it all aviable for ubuntu?
[12:24] <locomorto> Or is windows/something else
[12:24] <korben78> Nvidiot: try adding deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:24] <locomorto> on there as well?
[12:24] <glyn> glyn@Haksmoke:~$ sudo chown glyn:glyn /home/glyn/xauthority chown: cannot access `/home/glyn/xauthority': No such file or directoryglyn@Haksmoke:~
[12:24] <guowei> btw, when i am installing ubuntu 5.10 for ppc, same error occurs everytime
[12:24] <Bateau_> locomorto: yes