[03:05] <DeeTahPanLtah> hermes: so its linux problem,then? ;p
[03:05] <shawarma> tanath: Since both that file, and some of your gconf database (the mouse problem you had) is messed up, I'm guessing you've had your file system corrupted recently?
[03:05] <tanath> shawarma: not to my knowledge
[03:06] <hermes> DeeTahPanLtah: dont know..but it has worked..it is strang
[03:06] <tanath> shawarma: i just upgraded compiz, and restarted X, but it froze and i had to reboot. that's when it happened
[03:06] <shawarma> tanath: Power outage? unclean shutdown? sledgehammer?
[03:06] <sweegee> i've just installed xubuntu and want to load Adobe Reader
[03:06] <tanath> shawarma: i had logged out first though..
[03:06] <sweegee> what is the default password for root
[03:07] <shawarma> tanath: "had to reboot" as in "yank the power cord out", press the power button without shutting down or?
[03:07] <shawarma> sweegee: there is none
[03:07] <tanath> shawarma: as in press the reset button
[03:07] <Timmy|GDS> my root password is scriptkiddie
[03:07] <shawarma> sweegee: It's not blank, there's just no password.
[03:07] <tanath> shawarma: power button did nothing
[03:07] <shawarma> tanath: Yeah, that'll mess it up.
[03:07] <whitehorseNtiger> I like nmapfe.  I copy the command into a terminal with "sudo".  Hey, How do I get apps to run as root in ubuntu?
[03:07] <sweegee> so how do you load applications?
[03:08] <DeeTahPanLtah> hermes: my comp says your all ports are filtered,so i'm not totally sure if router's okay
[03:08] <drick> anybody familiar with gdesklets' starter bar?
[03:08] <shawarma> sweegee: As in "install new ones"?
[03:08] <joe_september82> sweegee, load as in run an application or install one?
[03:08] <DeeTahPanLtah> whitehorseNtiger: you've done wrong-if you're running graphical apps,use kdesu instead..
[03:08] <DeeTahPanLtah> !sudo
[03:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:08] <sweegee> install apps
[03:08] <hermes> DeeTahPanLtah: hmm.but is filtered not okay?
[03:09] <joe_september82> sweegee, sudo apt-get install <application>
[03:09] <shawarma> sweegee: Have you tried anythign that failed or do you not know at all what do to?
[03:09] <DeeTahPanLtah> whitehorseNtiger: meant gksu ;p
[03:09] <tanath> shawarma: btw, i normally use my xgl/compiz login, but i'm using my regular gnome login now and it's messed. there was no window manager, alt+tab doesn't work, and the app buttons don't show on the taskbar
[03:09] <DeeTahPanLtah> hermes: it means they arent open,i guess ;P
[03:09] <michaels__> is there a simple way to delete all files that share a certain extension in a directory and all subdirectories?
[03:09] <[H] 3b0R> anyone know about any good repos for the latest software? not betas
[03:09] <whitehorseNtiger> DeeTahPanLtah  I don't understand.
[03:09] <whitehorseNtiger> sorry
[03:09] <shawarma> sweegee: In your programs menu, there's an add/remove programs thing. That's good for many things.
[03:09] <DeeTahPanLtah> numist: rm -rf *.<extension> ?
[03:09] <shawarma> sweegee: it'll as for your password. YOUR password. Not root's.
[03:09] <hermes> DeeTahPanLtah: yes but open means "accept everything"  i think..filtered is okay normally
[03:10] <sweegee> extracted the files to tmp and ran the ./INSTALL script but was denied permission
[03:10] <conhe> need tutor to compilation of kernel
[03:10] <DeeTahPanLtah> whitehorseNtiger: it somehow doesn't allow me anyways; p
[03:10] <shawarma> hermes: "filtered" means it didn't respond at all.
[03:10] <conhe> how-to*
[03:10] <tanath> michaels__: what DeeTahPanLtah said
[03:10] <shawarma> hermes: in case of "closed" it responded with at "go away, nothing to see here"
[03:10] <michaels__> thanks DeeTahPanLtah, tanath
[03:10] <Arafangion> How do I beam files from my PDA to my computer's IR port?
[03:10] <shawarma> conhe: why?
[03:11] <DeeTahPanLtah> whitehorseNtiger: if you want to run some graphical app as root,use gksu <command>,not sudo. sudo will make you mess up xserver and you'll have to restart it
[03:11] <hermes> shawarma: so something in my router is wrong? (i dont have installed a firewall on this ubuntu server)
[03:11] <[H] 3b0R> anyone know about any good repos for the latest software?
[03:11] <shawarma> hermes: I asked before if there was a router.. :-)
[03:11] <joe_september82> sweegee, you have to do a 'sudo' to run thr application
[03:11] <DeeTahPanLtah> [H] 3b0R: test hashed ones in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:11] <shawarma> hermes: What is your machines IP? Not the one we see from the outside, but the one it believes it has?
[03:11] <joe_september82> sweegee, like 'sudo ./INSTALL
[03:12] <sweegee> many thanks, i'll try that and get back to you soon
[03:12] <hermes> shawarma: yes there is a router but the port is forwarded
[03:12] <tanath> shawarma: so, can you help me get my mouse fixed, by any chance?
[03:12] <shawarma> conhe: Why do you need to compile your own kernel?
[03:12] <conhe> shawarma: kernel... compilation
[03:12] <fuci> Helloes, what's a good program to resize lots of images (.jpg) to a smaller size?
[03:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> imagemagick?
[03:12] <tanath> shawarma: what file would it be unable to parse to make me unable to change my mouse speed?
[03:12] <OmegaNine> F it, i give up for now.  CS:S calls.
[03:12] <hermes> shawarma: the ip in my network? it is a static one: <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:12] <conhe> shawarma: add suport ntfs
[03:12] <shawarma> conhe: me understand good... me want know why
[03:12] <whitehorseNtiger> k
[03:13] <conhe> shawarma: add suport samba !
[03:13] <shawarma> conhe: It's already there.
[03:13] <Miravlix> I'm trying to run amule installed on ubuntu 6.06, but with a gentoo system as X-server, but it complains with The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.
[03:13] <DeeTahPanLtah> Et?
[03:13] <DeeTahPanLtah> what did he mean?
[03:13] <hermes> shawarma: why btw?
[03:14] <shawarma> hermes: I was trying to find out it you're router forwarded stuff to your or mereley acted as kind of a switch.
[03:14] <shawarma> tanath: Your gconf database.
[03:14] <shawarma> tanath: $HOME/.gconf/*
[03:14] <sweegee> sudo "command" did the trick
[03:15] <michaels__> DeeTahPanLtah: I went into the dir, did rm -rf *.jpg, and there are still some jpgs in some subdirectories according to nautilus. what am I doing wrong?
[03:15] <hermes> shawarma: i think i am gonna to reinstall apache and reset my router
[03:15] <sweegee> what do i have to say to show my appreciation?
[03:15] <shawarma> sweegee: Do check out the add/remove thing as well.
[03:15] <shawarma> hermes: You say your apache is listening on port 12345?
[03:15] <frog_racer> when i do sudo i get: unable to lookup localhost via gethostbyname()
[03:15] <DeeTahPanLtah> michaels__: tried refreshing? :P
[03:15] <michaels__> yep
[03:15] <shawarma> frog_racer: your /etc/hosts is messed up.
[03:15] <phreakys> hi
[03:16] <shawarma> frog_racer: add '<IP_ADDRESS> localhost' to it
[03:16] <DeeTahPanLtah> michaels__: you can access them?
[03:16] <phreakys> how would i get total write access in kde?
[03:16] <shawarma> frog_racer: either that or your loopback interface it b0rken.
[03:16] <hermes> shawarma: no port 80..but in my router there is "translate port 12345 to port 80" so people i my network go to myip:80, people on the internet to myip:12345
[03:16] <phreakys> i cant access dirs like /usr/share
[03:16] <arno> Hello, when I look for updates on my ubuntu I get an error with the sources... Could anyone help me.. thanks
[03:16] <michaels__> yep DeeTahPanLtah
[03:16] <shawarma> hermes: ah, ok.
[03:16] <michaels__> but then when I go into an actual subdir and run it there it goes good
[03:17] <arno> I get an W: GPG error:
[03:17] <tanath> shawarma: is there a 'proper' way to reset things?
[03:17] <DeeTahPanLtah> michaels__: try rm -f $( ls *.jpg )
[03:17] <ircleuser> hi all
[03:17] <ircleuser> complete noob here. ..
[03:17] <Jamminpotato> good morning
[03:17] <ircleuser> tryin to install ubuntu it just freezes with a maroon screen
[03:17] <ircleuser> tried restarting twice already..
[03:18] <michaels__> DeeTahPanLtah: ls: *.jpg: No such file or directory
[03:18] <ircleuser> donno waht to do ..
[03:18] <ircleuser> any advices ?
[03:18] <shawarma> tanath: Hmm... Well, kind of.
[03:18] <ircleuser> looking at docs on wiki and ubuntu.com.. donno what is close to this behaviour ? or is this a freeze ?
[03:18] <DeeTahPanLtah> michaels__: try rm -f $( ls -R *.jpg ) then?
[03:18] <finalbeta> Anyone here ever installed Ubuntu or any linux to an USB stick? Can all PC's boot of it, is it in any way workable? Would be using it as a backup/recovery OS?
[03:19] <Arafangion> ircleuser: Brown, or maroon?
[03:19] <ircleuser> maroon
[03:19] <shawarma> tanath: It's not very easy, though.
[03:19] <arno> does anyone know something about GPG error?
[03:19] <michaels__> I get the same message DeeTahPanLtah
[03:19] <schnepfi> hello guys. can somebody help me. i'm using ubuntu, well, so i have got an external soundcard (usb) but i can't make it work. the sound is played on my internal soundcard and if i change the sounddevice (volume control) it is also played over my internal soundcard :-(
[03:19] <earth|afk> hello
[03:19] <DeeTahPanLtah> michaels__: are those files in your current directory's subdir?
[03:20] <michaels__> yes
[03:20] <earth|afk> i am really confused now. What is the difference between KUBUNTU and UBUNTU ? :S
[03:20] <shawarma> tanath: it involves looking through the files in $HOME/.gconf/ and verifying them.
[03:20] <finalbeta> KDE versus GNOME
[03:20] <DeeTahPanLtah> earth|afk: window manager ;)
[03:20] <shawarma> tanath: There is no easy solution to fs corruption.
[03:20] <earth|afk> so UBUNTU = gnome and KUBUNTU = kde
[03:20] <earth|afk> right?
[03:20] <joe_september82> earth|afk, just the desktop actually
[03:20] <finalbeta> yes
[03:20] <visik7> anyone know how to enable java in opera ?
[03:20] <joe_september82> earth|afk, yeah
[03:20] <shawarma> schnepfi: which player?
[03:20] <extern> KDevelop seems to use konsole to run programs. Is there a way to reconfigure it to use bash instead?
[03:20] <ircleuser> Arafangion: its maroon
[03:20] <finalbeta> (desktop and default programs)
[03:21] <finalbeta> Anyone here ever installed Ubuntu or any linux to an USB stick? Can all PC's boot of it, is it in any way workable? Would be using it as a backup/recovery OS?
[03:21] <shawarma> extern: bash runs inside konsole.
[03:21] <joe_september82> ircleuser, hmmm...any error msgs cming up?
[03:21] <extern> hmm
[03:21] <DeeTahPanLtah> finalbeta: what for if there's cdrom version?
[03:21] <extern> it says that konsole is not found when trying to run a program
[03:21] <arno> ???
[03:21] <tanath> michaels__: try this: for i in $( ls -R *.jpg ) ; do rm $i ; done
[03:21] <schnepfi> shawarma: i tried it with amarok and i also tried a movie player. but there was't a difference
[03:21] <Arafangion> ircleuser: Odd, can't help you, sorry :(
[03:21] <phreakys> ok, how do i make my standard account a root user with the same write permissions?
[03:22] <ircleuser> Arafangion: you seen this i believe .. any clue to what am i supposed to do to correct it ?
[03:22] <ffarzad> any one can help for beginning voip?
[03:22] <finalbeta> DeeTahPanLtah, because you can't change a CD rom (Read only memory)?
[03:22] <extern> oops, I have misread the error message, it doesn't find "/bin/sh"
[03:22] <michaels__> still the same message tanath
[03:22] <DeeTahPanLtah> finalbeta: i dont know,tried simply copying files? ;P
[03:22] <finalbeta> wtf
[03:23] <DeeTahPanLtah> !language
[03:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:23] <DeeTahPanLtah> ;P
[03:23] <tanath> michaels__: try running bash first..
[03:23] <joe_september82> hehe
[03:24] <Arafangion> ircleuser: If it were brown, I'd assume you had an usually low memory system, and suggest you wait a while, or get more memory.
[03:24] <arno> where do we change the sources on ubuntu and which ones are best?
[03:24] <michaels__> speak to me in newb here tanath, you mean put ./ before the whole thing?
[03:24] <phreakys> you can change your repos in /etc/apt/sources.list arno
[03:24] <phreakys> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:24] <phreakys> (in console)
[03:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> nano sucks ;d
[03:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> vim ftw!
[03:25] <phreakys> yea, any editor will do
[03:25] <matthewf> what would be the best media player to install on kubuntu which wont need gnome or other big packages that kubuntu doesnt have ?
[03:25] <schnepfi> sp shawarma what do you say?
[03:25] <whitehorseNtiger> How do I edit the "applications" list?  I need to change a launcher.
[03:25] <phreakys> matthewf => xmms?
[03:25] <[joemaxxx] > yeah...just curious..how does on edit the menus?
[03:25] <ircleuser> Arafangion: ok i just closed everything .. i have windows already installed on one partition..now i need to install ubuntu on one .. do i just insert the cd and follow its instruction ?? it doesnt seem to ask me wheter i want to start live cd or install to HD ..
[03:25] <arno> ok and thanks phreakys but which ones do I have to get to make ubuntu turn very well!!?
[03:25] <ircleuser> or does it just install (without asking :-) )??
[03:26] <phreakys> turn?
[03:26] <arno> to have it do date properly?
[03:26] <Ivanowitch> no, but the installer is run from the liveCD boot...
[03:26] <matthewf> phreakys: i need dvd playback etc etc .. i have always used VLC on the mac/pc and like it... does VLC need gnome ?
[03:26] <Arafangion> ircleuser: It'll first run the live-cd, and show you an icon on the desktop for you to actually install it.
[03:26] <DeeTahPanLtah> ircleuser: in newest version,running it in graphical mode starts a live cd,then u just click a "install" icon and tell it what it wants to know ;)
[03:26] <phreakys> vlc will run under kde too
[03:27] <hermes> DeeTahPanLtah: can you try to go to my webserver one more time? http://<IP_ADDRESS>:12345
[03:27] <Arafangion> ircleuser: The idea being that it first shows you a demo (Which is quite useful anyway, if you don't want to or can't actually install it - ie, you're at a school or whatever), then you may choose to install it.
[03:27] <[joemaxxx] > yeap yeap
[03:27] <ircleuser> apparenty there are no install button .. there is a text menu ... about 6 itesm .. i selected the first (install/ start live CD) .it did something for 5 mins and froze ..!
[03:27] <phreakys> its in the repositories
[03:27] <phreakys> sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:27] <Arafangion> ircleuser: How much memory do you have?
[03:27] <matthewf> phreakys: gah .. sorry got confused im not useing kubuntu .. im useing the one that has xfce
[03:27] <ircleuser> 384 MB
[03:27] <phreakys> ah ok
[03:28] <phreakys> i guess that should also work
[03:28] <arno> it works hermes
[03:28] <Arafangion> ircleuser: That should be pleanty. What type of system?
[03:28] <DeeTahPanLtah> Interesting ports on cust-55-132.dsl.versateladsl.be (<IP_ADDRESS>):
[03:28] <DeeTahPanLtah> PORT      STATE SERVICE
[03:28] <DeeTahPanLtah> 12345/tcp open  NetBus
[03:28] <tanath> michaels__: no, i meant, run 'bash' and then run it in the bash shell that comes up
[03:28] <hermes> arno: really? what do you see?
[03:28] <ircleuser> Pentium III 866Mhz
[03:28] <tanath> Matthai: amarok, prolly
[03:28] <arno> Yinthe
[03:28] <cornel1> I just installed ubuntu Dapper Drake AMD64.  Totem movie says it needs a plugin to play a DVD.  I  can't find a plugin manager in Totem.  The online help doesn't seem to offer plugins.  What am I missing?
[03:28] <Arafangion> Why the hell does Ubuntu always upgrade my kernel?
[03:28] <arno> hermes yinthe and some fotos
[03:28] <tanath> Matthai: oops
[03:28] <michaels__> tanath: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[03:28] <coder1> any GTK programmers around
[03:28] <hermes> arno+DeeTahPanLtah+others: thanks a lot
[03:28] <tanath> matthewf: amarok prolly
[03:29] <DeeTahPanLtah> hermes: np ;p
[03:29] <Arafangion> How do I get Ubuntu to NOT upgrade the kernel?
[03:29] <DeeTahPanLtah> hermes: though it didnt connect yet...her
[03:29] <DeeTahPanLtah> e
[03:29] <tanath> michaels__: odd. scratch that. type exit
[03:29] <[joemaxxx] > um..skip upgrades? :P
[03:29] <Arafangion> ircleuser: Well, is it a laptop?
[03:29] <ircleuser> no a desktop ..
[03:29] <michaels__> tanath: done
[03:30] <phreakys> does anyone know the chmod command to give a user write access to all directories?
[03:30] <ircleuser> i will list eveerythin i know abt it ..
[03:30] <DeeTahPanLtah> hermes: worked!
[03:30] <ircleuser> PIII 866 Asus Mother board
[03:30] <ircleuser> 384 MBran
[03:30] <coder1> help with shortcut to installing gtk on ubuntu
[03:30] <ircleuser> ram
[03:30] <ircleuser> 160GB HDD Seagate
[03:30] <Arafangion> ircleuser: What graphics card?
[03:30] <ircleuser> Geforce 64 MB
[03:30] <arno> what are the good sources for ubuntu?
[03:30] <Arafangion> ircleuser: It really should work.
[03:31] <ircleuser> thats what i thought :)
[03:31] <phreakys> ow man, i love xgl. cant get enough of this wobbling windowthing
[03:31] <Arafangion> arno: I bought one today off a magazine from the newsagent.
[03:31] <ffarzad> any can help me about voip beginning
[03:31] <DeeTahPanLtah> arno: i've unhashed all hashed there ;d
[03:31] <Telarian02> Hello all, anyone know why my totem gstreamer is version 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 and the firefox plugin is 1.4.3-0ubuntu4 and i cannot install the plugin?
[03:31] <ircleuser> does it matter that i already have partitioned the HDD ??
[03:31] <arno> DeeTahPanLtah i don't understand
[03:31] <coder1> info on widget sets ready to use on ubuntu
[03:32] <arno> Arafangion ok which one and where do you find thant?
[03:32] <DeeTahPanLtah> there should be few lines like: # deb http://blahblahblah <your version here>
[03:32] <frog_racer> when i do sudo i get: unable to lookup localhost via gethostbyname()
[03:32] <DeeTahPanLtah> if you remove the "#",he won't ignore then anymore and in the next apt-get update you'll get a lot more packets ;p
[03:32] <hermes> DeeTahPanLtah: really thanks
[03:32] <DeeTahPanLtah> frog_racer: same with gksu/kdesu?
[03:32] <DeeTahPanLtah> hermes: really NO PROBLEM ;P
[03:32] <frog_racer> i dont use x
[03:33] <frog_racer> its a headless server
[03:33] <DeeTahPanLtah> frog_racer: no access to root,then?
[03:33] <manopulus> hi, looking for multi-tab terminal, a-la for xfce4, gnome or kde, but light. one condition - UTF8 is must. what i can install?
[03:33] <frog_racer> no, and i need access
[03:33] <DeeTahPanLtah> frog_racer: restart it in single-user mode and do passwd root
[03:33] <frog_racer> ok
[03:33] <DeeTahPanLtah> once you've enabled root's account,you can use it with "su" command
[03:34] <daaku> is there any way to determine what config files have been changed since they were installed? (i want to write a script to backup custom changes under /etc)
[03:34] <BrokenSegue> I just got this wierd error, "The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. Internal error opening cache (1). Please report". What should I do? Can I override it?
[03:34] <erUSUL> manopulus: i use a combination of urxvt + screen...
[03:34] <DeeTahPanLtah> try removing it,then
[03:34] <DeeTahPanLtah> or first
[03:34] <DeeTahPanLtah> try apt-get -f install
[03:34] <elisiano> manopulus, use screen with the terminal you like most
[03:34] <DeeTahPanLtah> if wont help,try removing ;p
[03:34] <DeeTahPanLtah> elisiano: you're right ;)
[03:34] <DeeTahPanLtah> screen ftw! i love this one
[03:35] <vanjelos>  i have a problem logging in.... i havent used ubuntu for a while now....and i had this issue with the patch that affected many pcs... i cant remember my username, it may be :root, and my password.....what i can do to retrieve it....or somehow solve this issue??
[03:35] <DeeTahPanLtah> manopulus: there's always tty left ;p
[03:35] <daaku> manopulus: xfce4-terminal is pretty good and light weight
[03:35] <elisiano> vanjelos, u don't remember your username? lol. anyway on the installation cd there is the rescue mode
[03:36] <DeeTahPanLtah> vanjelos: access your parition in single-user mdoe and type "cat /etc/passwd | awk -d: '{print $1}' ". you'll get names of all users added
[03:36] <vanjelos> elisiano.....
[03:36] <laurens_s> !umask
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <bignose_> is UDF support enabled by default in the dapper default kernal ?
[03:36] <elisiano> try starting it in recovery mode (you have it in the kernel list at boot) and then adjust your username/password
[03:36] <topyli> vanjelos: or simply look at the names of the directories in /home. those are the usernames
[03:36] <DeeTahPanLtah> vanjelos: whoops,i meant cat /etc/passwd | awk -F: '{print $1}'
[03:37] <elisiano> topyli, I guess he cant logon
[03:37] <elisiano> :)
[03:37] <topyli> with a live cd of course :)
[03:37] <elisiano> haha
[03:37] <vanjelos> i had also this issue...with the graphical interface...
[03:37] <tanath> anyone know how to use sed to replace \s with nulls?
[03:37] <laurens_s> Hi! Is is possible, to specify a umask for a certain folder? For instance, I want my umask to be 770 when in /home/laurens/shared, but 700 otherwise
[03:38] <erUSUL> laurens_s: no, afaik you have to do it manually
[03:38] <cornel1> Sorry.. I'm not able to follow the flow here, so much conversation...  If anyone has an answer about getting Totem to read a DVD, could you pm me?  We can continue the conversation in the room, if you like, but just PM as kind of an alert.  Thanks
[03:38] <DeeTahPanLtah> laurens_s: or make a script which does it ;)
[03:38] <erUSUL> !dvd
[03:38] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:38] <erUSUL> !dvd > cornel1
[03:39] <earth|afk> how could i find out if all my hardware is 100% compatible with the ubuntu i want to install ????? is there any software or a list or smth?
[03:39] <elisiano> laurens_s, chmog g+wrxs /home/laurens/shared
[03:39] <topyli> laurens_s: the parent directory must be executable for group, so that group can look inside the child dir
[03:39] <cornel1> Thanks ubotu
[03:39] <DeeTahPanLtah> cornel1: its a bot ;D
[03:40] <DeeTahPanLtah> !ubotu
[03:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:40] <elisiano> bye guys
[03:40] <DeeTahPanLtah> cya
[03:40] <DeeTahPanLtah> whoah,the nvidia module's building!
[03:40] <DeeTahPanLtah> wasn't it cogito? ;p
[03:40] <neuroe> hello
[03:40] <laurens_s> elisiano, I know that works to change it after I created the folders and files, but once I make a new file, I have to do it again. I know I can change /etc/login.defs, but that's global
[03:40] <earth|afk> how could i find out if all my hardware is 100% compatible with the ubuntu i want to install ????? is there any software or a list or smth?
[03:41] <laurens_s> erUSUL, DeeTahPanLtah , topyli : thanks too :)
[03:41] <topyli> earth|afk: boot the live cd and see if everything works
[03:42] <izmaelis> hi, is there a special installation steps for setting up ubuntu with RAID10?
[03:42] <neuroe> I'm trying to change my gnome theme, i installed IceWM, but it says another window manager is already running, how do i use it or is there a better window manager i should try?
[03:43] <kaphein> DeeTah : Codito == Writing code ! :)
[03:43] <Arafangion> arno: I can't remember, but those that sell a copy tend to advertise it like nothing else.
[03:43] <Arafangion> How do I tell Ubuntu I DO NOT WANT THE KERNEL UPGRADED?
[03:43] <Arafangion> (Sorry for shouting, it's my #2 pet hate)
[03:44] <DeeTahPanLtah> Arafangion: wish i knew it ;)
[03:44] <neuroe> Arafangion, don't shout, use a calm assertive tone and tell the ubuntu nicely in plain english the your current kernel is fine
[03:45] <lupine_85> review upgrades before accepting them?
[03:45] <Ackeubu__> !edgy
[03:45] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:45] <neuroe> !IceWM
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IceWM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <kaphein> Arafangion: do you know aptitude ?
[03:47] <bobbob1016> Anyone here using a D-Link DWL-G122 USB wifi dongle?  I am having problems getting it to connect to my WPA router
[03:47] <neuroe> obobo
[03:47] <lupine_85> bobbob1016: I am#
[03:47] <lupine_85> (it's hardware revision B1, right?)
[03:47] <bobbob1016> yeah
[03:48] <lupine_85> rt2570 driver or ndiswrapper?
[03:48] <kaphein> Arafangion: from the term type "sudo aptitude" find your package in the list and either use the menus to mark it for "hold" or press "=" while the kernel package is selected
[03:48] <bobbob1016> rt2570
[03:48] <lupine_85> the driver doesn't support wpa_supplicant. You can use rutilt to set WPA-PSK, though
[03:48] <plastic> Nameeater, so the problem was with nVIDIA drivers o just reinstalled them and everything works properly..
[03:49] <lupine_85> http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386
[03:49] <bobbob1016> OH, ok, so I have to just install that then?
[03:49] <lupine_85> ralink-config-0.12_386.deb
[03:49] <lupine_85> (from memory ;) )
[03:49] <lupine_85> bobbob1016: yes
[03:49] <lupine_85> never used it myself, but it should "theoretically" work
[03:49] <tanath> my keyboard won't repeat when i hold a key anymore... where's the setting for this?
[03:49] <bobbob1016> lupine_85: which file do I install though?
[03:49] <lupine_85> [14:49]  <lupine_85> ralink-config-0.12_386.deb
[03:49] <FRET> good afternoon
[03:50] <lupine_85> dpkg -i
[03:50] <lupine_85> (well, sudo dpkg -i)
[03:50] <kishore> !java
[03:50] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:50] <bobbob1016> I just double clicked
[03:51] <bobbob1016> should I dpkg -i it?
[03:51] <tanath> i've tried System > Prefs> Keyboard, but it makes two letters appear at once, and won't repeat after that...
[03:51] <lupine_85> as long as double-clicking installs it, you should be OK
[03:51] <tanath> how can i fix this?
[03:51] <bobbob1016> should I reboot?
[03:51] <lupine_85> no
[03:52] <lupine_85> just run 'sudo rutilt'
[03:52] <kaphein> Where is the file that specifies what kernel modules are loaded at boot time ?
[03:52] <lupine_85> it is GUI, but doesn't create a desktop entry
[03:52] <FRET> kaphein, /etc/modules
[03:52] <bobbob1016> it still only says WEP
[03:53] <lupine_85> create a new profile
[03:53] <lupine_85> under "Authentication" you have WPAPSK#
[03:53] <bobbob1016> ok, I'll try
[03:53] <lupine_85> encryption switches to TKIP and you can enter your key
[03:54] <patientfox> hey i have quick question... what package(s) should i install to get more fonts for gimp ?
[03:54] <lupine_85> right now it only supports DHCP
[03:54] <Arafangion> kameron: Ok.
[03:54] <habeeb> Flightgears, the flight simulation game, is good? :/
[03:54] <bobbob1016> still only got the 'a'
[03:54] <tanath> for some reason there's no app buttons on the task bar... anyone know how to fix this?
[03:55] <lupine_85> I've got rutilt open here and I can see the option
[03:55] <lupine_85> we've got exactly the same HW and driver
[03:55] <lupine_85> so what's different?
[03:55] <bobbob1016> maybe where I am clicking, one second
[03:56] <Arafangion> kameron: Hopefully that should do it :)
[03:56] <bobbob1016> in Site Survey, I click my router, and click new profile, right?
[03:56] <bobbob1016> add profile*
[03:56] <lupine_85> yes
[03:56] <lupine_85> then the authentication drop box
[03:56] <bobbob1016> and WPA'
[03:56] <hikenboot> hello all--anyone know what this error means? I found some old references to it but none for 6.0.6 I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"
[03:56] <bobbob1016> ascii key?
[03:56] <lupine_85> should have "open, Shared, WPAPSK"
[03:56] <Arafangion> kameron: Wow, aptitude is nice.
[03:57] <EnoXS> Hey, i've got an HP pavilion dv6025, AMD64 turion X2, Nvidia chipset, when i boot the CD ubuntu 6.06 my notebook crashes halfway the boot.Is there  somebody who had  the same problem?
[03:57] <bobbob1016> that worked
[03:57] <bobbob1016> I feel stupid now, lol
[03:57] <lupine_85> however your router gives it to you
[03:57] <lupine_85> :)
[03:57] <Arafangion> kameron: Sorry, looks like Kaphein left :(
[03:57] <tc99m> where can i find the most uptodate info on how to install java, flash etc..for ubuntu 64 bit...isnt Edgy supposed to do this?
[03:57] <lupine_85> it's not a well-known tool
[03:57] <BeepAU> has anyone got a linux t-shirt? i reckon this kill bill one looks awesome - http://www.splitreason.com/productdetail.php?id=99 - i wish i could find someone to sell that to me in australia
[03:58] <bobbob1016> the thing on the bottom right still has disconnected though
[03:58] <Jimmey> lupine_85, could you help me mount an NFS share?
[03:58] <schnepfi> wer kennt sichn hier gut im bios aus?
[03:58] <bobbob1016> after I clicked connect
[03:58] <schnepfi> omg
[03:58] <schnepfi> sry
[03:58] <snedar> hi! it seems my gtk themes are messed up -- I can choose between 28 themes but all seem to be either Clearlooks or Human. this might have been caused by having installed gtk2-engines-gtk-qt (removed it now), but I'm not sure. any ideas on how to fix this, or find the problem?
[03:59] <daaku> my computer crashed and now apt gives me this error: E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/extended_states (1) - anyone know if it can be fixed?
[03:59] <lupine_85> Jimmey: no experience, sorry
[03:59] <poltergeist> can anyone help on installation of Sagem Fast 800 USB ADSL modem ?
[03:59] <Jimmey> lupine_85, that's okay.
[04:00] <[joemaxxx] > hmm
[04:00] <lupine_85> man nfs? ;)
[04:00] <illovae> hello :)
[04:00] <BEAR> hello
[04:00] <[joemaxxx] > anyone used infra-red on ubuntu before?
[04:00] <illovae> is there anyone on ppc here plz ?
[04:00] <tanath> my bottom panel doesn't show the apps i'm running... how do i fix this? any ideas?
[04:00] <Jimmey> I'm trying to share my home directory over a network, and have opened ports 2409 and 111 with firestarter, but I'm still unable to connect to the share - nmap reports that 111 IS open, but that 2409 is not.
[04:00] <illovae> i'm on a livecd and i can't mount my hfs filesystem :/
[04:00] <FRET> tanath, right click on it, -> add to panel ->....
[04:01] <FRET> tanath, you'll get it :-)
[04:01] <BEAR> q
[04:01] <DBO> Jimmey, over samba right?
[04:01] <Jimmey> DBO, with NFS
[04:01] <Dirtycash> Is there an Ubuntu equivalent to music browsing sites like Amazon  (I can't realplayer to work)
[04:02] <Jimmey> DBO, both computers run Ubuntu
[04:02] <[joemaxxx] > Dirtycash, realplayer doesn't work?
[04:03] <DBO> Jimmey, have you tried mounting the nfs share and have you made sure the NFS server is running?
[04:03] <Dirtycash> nope  When i click on a file on amazon it just wants me to download Hurl.exe
[04:03] <BEAR> hello
[04:03] <Ubuntu-Bob> <3 UBUNTU!
[04:03] <[joemaxxx] > Dirtycash, hurl.exe?
[04:04] <Dirtycash> yep
[04:04] <Jimmey> DBO, "mount to NFS server '<IP_ADDRESS>' failed.", and how do I make sure it's running?
[04:04] <Dirtycash> whatever that is
[04:04] <tanath> FRET: it's already there, it's just not functioning
[04:04] <[joemaxxx] > couldbe some spyware thing
[04:04] <Dirtycash> So do you have realplayer working?
[04:04] <[joemaxxx] > Dirtycash, did try copy pasting the link to the music on reaplyer?
[04:04] <Jimmey> DBO, port 2049 stays closed, which I think maybe the problem
[04:05] <Dirtycash> yep
[04:05] <radam> Hi. I am trying to rescue some data from a disk (stripped from a maxtor external drive), but I am not sure what file system it is. I was used on OS X before. Is there a way i can determine the FS type, and hence mount it? thanks for any help!
[04:05] <DBO> Jimmey, you issue a start command to its init script in /etc/init.d/
[04:05] <[joemaxxx] > Dirtycash, still didn;t work?
[04:05] <Dirtycash> I will try to config VLC to use wmv files (if that's possible)
[04:05] <Jimmey> DBO, I'll try
[04:05] <tanath> anyone know why the window list on my bottom panel would not be functioning? doesn't display any windows
[04:06] <Dirtycash> no luck on the Realplayer
[04:06] <poltergeist> I can't reset my password for Ubuntu Forums......
[04:06] <[joemaxxx] > yeah VLC reads wmv
[04:06] <poltergeist> is there so many problems ?
[04:06] <Ubuntu-Bob> automatrix...
[04:06] <Dirtycash> by default?
[04:06] <[joemaxxx] > Dirtycash, yup :)
[04:06] <ShoeUnited> Heyo :)
[04:07] <[joemaxxx] > Dirtycash, quicktime, avi, wma, wmv...
[04:07] <Dirtycash> hmm ok let me attempt that Thx
[04:07] <Jimmey> DBO, I started it, and firestarter's blocking connections from the computer that's trying to connect, on port 676
[04:07] <[joemaxxx] > np
[04:07] <DBO> Jimmey, shut off the firewall and see if you can mount it
[04:07] <ShoeUnited> I've got a question. ^_^
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[04:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:07] <ShoeUnited> Oh ok lol ^_^
[04:08] <poltergeist> !ask sagem fast 800
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask sagem fast 800 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <poltergeist> !ask sagem
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask sagem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <poltergeist> !ask usb modem
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask usb modem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <[joemaxxx] > ShoeUnited, shoot! :)
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !modem
[04:08] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[04:08] <[joemaxxx] > !fetch
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fetch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <ShoeUnited> !ask I'm a new user to ubuntu, and I've read there's a problem with xwindows system.  I saw the page for updating, but if ubuntu is not installed yet, how do I do it since I have a live cd/install cd?
[04:08] <Jimmey> DBO. I think as firestarter's just a front-end for iptables, it'll be working in the background, and connections will continue to be blocked
[04:08] <poltergeist> !ask usb
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> poltergeist, stop playing with the bot!
[04:08] <[joemaxxx] > hehe
[04:08] <EnoXS> Hey, i can't boot ubuntu 6.06 x86-64 on my laptop. It is a HP dv6025 amd64 turionX2with nvidia chipset 430, graphics driver  Go 7200. Is there something i can try to make it work so i can install in onto my harddrive?
[04:08] <Madeye> is there anyway to fix a bad partioning problem without formating ?
[04:08] <matthewf> weee, i have DVD playback, and damn if it wasnt easy heh
[04:09] <ShoeUnited> !ask download
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask download - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <IceTox> any one of you happend to know where I might find more of those themes used in ubuntu? (gnome)
[04:09] <DBO> Jimmey, firestarter has an option to disable the firewall which dumps the iptables rules
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> gnome-look.org
[04:09] <ShoeUnited> The umm, bot I believe will see my question as too large. lol
[04:09] <Jimmey> DBO, it works now - I just opened 676
[04:09] <IceTox> yeah, but which one of them Jack_Sparrow ?
[04:10] <IceTox> gtk? Gnomethemes?
[04:10] <DBO> Jimmey, ok, well done
[04:10] <lupine_85> iptables -L & iptables -F are handy
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> IceTox: IYOu can use almost any of those
[04:10] <lupine_85> madeye: depends on the problem
[04:10] <matthewf> xubuntu is definatly in my good books so far, sound worked out of box, and video just needed a little nudge
[04:11] <IceTox> o,, do you happend to know where I load them?
[04:11] <ShoeUnited> I'm a new user to ubuntu (like brand spanking new.  lol), and I've read there's a problem with xwindows system.  I saw the page for updating, but if ubuntu is not installed yet, how do I do it since I have a live cd/install cd?
[04:11] <Jimmey> DBO, how do I unmount a share? XoD
[04:11] <ShoeUnited> Or is the iso's now updated?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> EnoXS: WHat problem are you having fgetting it to install.
[04:11] <DBO> Jimmey, sudo umount sharepoint
[04:11] <lupine_85> ShoeUnited: problem is fixed so won't affect you
[04:11] <Madeye> lupine_85, just bad partioning, I installed the minimal image on 160GB hdd and the output of df -h is less than one GB; so I want to fix that without the need of reformating and installing
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> IceTox: Just drop the .tar onto the themem manager
[04:12] <lupine_85> problem was xserver-xorg-core 10.3; live CD has 10.1; current version is 10.
[04:12] <lupine_85> 4
[04:12] <ShoeUnited> Lupine_85:  Ah good.  Cause I already threw away 3 cd's  lol
[04:12] <EnoXS> Jack_Sparrow, the machine boots, let's say half the way, then it blocks.
[04:12] <IceTox> aight Jack_Sparrow :) thanks a lot
[04:12] <nalioth> ShoeUnited: the X problem has long been fixed, you'll have no worries
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry for typing errors, still waiting for coffee
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> np ice
[04:12] <lupine_85> Madeye: you can resize partitions, if you need to. what's the physical topology of the disc?
[04:12] <ShoeUnited> nalioth:  Cool.
[04:12] <lupine_85> and what partition type?
[04:12] <lupine_85> (s)
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> EnoXS: Trying to run the LIVE it stops.. correct
[04:13] <matthewf> ah yes Shoe reminds me, i take it there is a way of haveing Synaptic look at all packages installed and update the ones that need updating ? (havent used synaptic before)
[04:13] <ShoeUnited> Ty All. I'm going to download again, and try again. lol
[04:13] <EnoXS> Yeah that's right
[04:13] <Madeye> lupine_85, /dev/sda
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> EnoXS: Have you had the cd do a self check for errors?
[04:13] <lupine_85> ...and what partitions are on there right now, what type are they, what sizes are they, and how full are they?
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> EnoXS: have you tried F6 at the first menu  and used any differnt options
[04:14] <EnoXS> Jack_Sparrow: No i didn't.
[04:14] <Madeye> lupine_85, ext3
[04:14] <lupine_85> just the one partition?
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> EnoXS: Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> EnoXS: to name a few
[04:15] <ShoeUnited> Oh, another thought comes to mind, will it read/write ntfs so that I can get my files off my other drive and then format it?
[04:15] <ShoeUnited> This would be after OS install.
[04:15] <matthewf> Mark All Upgrades is the option i want if i want to update the whole distro right ?
[04:15] <lupine_85> pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" (that's lowecase L)
[04:15] <EnoXS> Jack_sparrow: Thanks for the help. I will test it and will report this later.
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs > ShoeUnited:
[04:15] <lupine_85> shoeunited: read ntfs; not write
[04:15] <lupine_85> unless you're brave
[04:16] <ShoeUnited> lol ok ^_^
[04:16] <ShoeUnited> !ntfs
[04:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> ShoeUnited: Not a good idea to write to ntfs
[04:16] <tanath> my terminals don't have a menu anymore. how can i get it back?
[04:16] <ShoeUnited> Alright, just was curious on that part.  I remembered when Redhat didn't support either, but mandrake supported both.
[04:17] <MegaMasterX> hello
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ShoeUnited: ntfs write works 98% of the time..
[04:17] <Madeye> lupine_85, http://channels.debian.net/paste/3568
[04:17] <teicah> tanath: rookie mistake.. right click on terminal window space
[04:17] <ShoeUnited> Jack_Sparrow: oic
[04:17] <MegaMasterX> I'm having a little problem with Ubuntu now....
[04:17] <lupine_85> 98% not good enough though ;)
[04:17] <ShoeUnited> lupine_85: I agree lol ^_^
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> 2% will bite you where it hurts
[04:17] <tanath> teicah: thx
[04:17] <MegaMasterX> ...
[04:18] <ShoeUnited> !filesystem
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <tanath> teicah: actually, my gconf settings got corrupted
[04:18] <ShoeUnited> !ext
[04:18] <ShoeUnited> oops
[04:18] <ShoeUnited> lol
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <ShoeUnited> !ask filesystem
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <MegaMasterX> My friend's keyboard is not responding when he boots to ubuntu
[04:18] <ShoeUnited> !ext3
[04:18] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> MegaMasterX: Is it a usb keyboard?
[04:18] <MegaMasterX> Nope
[04:18] <izmaelis> if there are 4 discs connected to same raid controller then I should see it as one hard disk?
[04:19] <MegaMasterX> Jack_Sparrow: It's a PS2 Keyboard
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> MegaMasterX: and it works in windows.. and is std ps2 port?
[04:19] <MegaMasterX> and it works on his login
[04:19] <MegaMasterX> Jack_Sparrow: Yes it worked in windows and yes its in a std PS2 port
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> MegaMasterX: Are we talking the Live cd or after install
[04:19] <MegaMasterX> Jack: After Install
[04:20] <jhasse> Does anyone know how i can mount mds/mdf-Images with Linux?
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> MegaMasterX: SO something was done to trash the install
[04:20] <MegaMasterX> Jack_Sparrow: He said it was successfully installed, with no errors, what is the course of action?
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> MegaMasterX: What was the last thing they were doing, changing etc
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> izmaelis,  if its a true hardware raid controller -  i think so. If you set it up in the bios/post screen.. but if its a cheaper more common one - no. you need toset up the right drivers first (i gave up on raid after a while)
[04:21] <longbean> any clues on which package contains a codec called "QDM2"? it's not in win32codecs, it's not in libxine-extracodecs, it's not in ffmpeg, it's not in libquicktime0...
[04:21] <MegaMasterX> Jack: Not a thing
[04:21] <lupine_85> madeye: are you certain that you've got almost no space left on /dev/sda1 ?
[04:21] <lupine_85>  madeye: are you certain that you've got almost no space left on /dev/sda1 ?
[04:21] <lupine_85> it's huge
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> MegaMasterX: If he never got into Ub after the hard drive install then just reinstall
[04:21] <krizzer> when i mount a partition and i try to view it is says You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "multi"., how do i view it
[04:21] <Madeye> lupine_85, according to http://channels.debian.net/paste/3569
[04:22] <neuroe> hello
[04:22] <neuroe> again
[04:22] <ShoeUnited> !cedega
[04:22] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[04:22] <MegaMasterX> Jack: Thank you very much
[04:22] <neuroe> i am insalling KDE on my Ubuntu, and all the KDE apps are showing up in my gnome menus and run in gnome
[04:23] <tom`> has anyone else had problems with emacs python-mode after the emacs snapshot update today?
[04:23] <neuroe> can someone explain this to me? i thought gnome and kde were two different desktops
[04:23] <ShoeUnited> Um, isn't kubuntu the kde version?
[04:23] <neuroe> yea
[04:23] <habeeb> ShoeUnited: yes
[04:23] <erUSUL> neuroe: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> neuroe: yes that is what happens
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> neuroe,  thats how it works.
[04:23] <erUSUL> !kubuntu
[04:23] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[04:23] <neuroe> you can still put kde in ubuntu
[04:23] <krizzer> can someone help with mounting partitions
[04:23] <ShoeUnited> oic ^_^
[04:23] <lupine_85> something isn't matching up... according to df, you've got an 800MB hard drive. According to fdisk, it's 246GB
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> krizzer: what type of partition
[04:24] <lupine_85> (s/hard drive/partition/)
[04:24] <krizzer> its ntfs
[04:24] <neuroe> so what is the diffence between kde and gnome then if they are compatible?
[04:24] <erUSUL> !ntfs
[04:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:24] <krizzer> yes after i did that it tells me that i dont have correct permeissions to view it
[04:24] <lupine_85> kde is better ;) /flame
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> krizzer  use diskmounter script
[04:25] <krizzer> ok
[04:25] <neuroe> well the kde apps def look better
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> neuroe,  use one for a while then try it... then try the other...
[04:25] <teicah> !gnomeISbetter
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomeISbetter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> neuroe: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[04:25] <extern> is there a way to change "Terminal Emulation" options in KDevelop? There are 2 options: "Use KDE setting" and "Other: ", but it doesn't allow me to specify it
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> compaiable means they both are now starting to follow the same 'standards'
[04:25] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:25] <teicah> google gnome kde holly war
[04:25] <lupine_85>  Madeye: TBH your best bet will be to burn your current files to a CD, and start from scratch
[04:25] <finalbeta> neuroe, no they don't, like look like wannabe but failed XP styled apps.
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> I mixx and match kde and gnome apps all the time
[04:25] <hkBst> neuroe: kde and gnome _are_ two different desktop environments. Still many application written for the one work in the other, if the needed libraries are available
[04:25] <matthewf> one could argue that this desktop environment argument is a moot point as real men use the shell and like it
[04:25] <finalbeta> :p
[04:25] <habeeb> Actually, K3B is supperior :P
[04:25] <matthewf> heh
[04:26] <ShoeUnited> !resolution
[04:26] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:26] <[joemaxxx] > yeah...K3B rocks!
[04:26] <Madeye> lupine_85, isn't there anyway to fix and/or find the lost partions without reformating ?
[04:26] <lupine_85> something is seriously wrong with that partition scheme
[04:26] <gnomefreak> everyone take your opinions to #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is for support not opinions
[04:26] <[joemaxxx] > I burn cd's with that baby
[04:26] <neuroe> i like the shell but i was just wondering why they have the same apps for both desktops if they already are compatible with eachother
[04:26] <Arafangion> How do I type in a unicode char by hex code?
[04:26] <lupine_85> you could try e2fsresize
[04:26] <neuroe> i guess that there is too much history in that question
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> i just think the kde and gnome guys need to get their naming more correct/standarzed for their apps.
[04:26] <lupine_85> but that could ust make it worse
[04:26] <Arafangion> Such as 20ac which is the euro sigh:
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> why have 100+ text editors :P if they read the same text files...
[04:27] <lupine_85> different features :)
[04:27] <teicah> why eat?
[04:27] <Arafangion> Dr_Willis: Because 99+ of them suck.
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> neuroe: there is a lot of overhead running kde in gnome or vs versa
[04:27] <lupine_85> joe, vi, nano are all ok as well
[04:27] <neuroe> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> Arafangion,   like 99% of comments on IRC. :)
[04:27] <FlytteTyr> hello, how do I go about fixing a wireless on a laptop when the card isnt found (same with the normal ethernet card)?
[04:27] <neuroe> that makes sense
[04:27] <Arafangion> lupine_85: vi sucks, vim is significantly improved :)
[04:27] <extern> Is there a way to change the resolution at login screen? And I would like that num lock was on by default
[04:28] <ShoeUnited> I'm used to vim though I haven't had a linux install in years.  lol
[04:28] <unfun> When I try to logon to msn trhough gimp I get a warning saying "unable to authorize"
[04:28] <lupine_85> the only time I use vi is on my SBC
[04:28] <qwerty> hello
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> FlytteTyr: By identifying what hadware you have
[04:28] <lupine_85> it's not smart enough to have vim
[04:28] <Madeye> lupine_85, can you explain whats wrong please?
[04:28] <qwerty> i cant start the cd from my laptop
[04:28] <Arafangion> lupine_85: SBC?
[04:28] <matthewf> when i run the Update thing in synaptic, are the updates for stuff like xorg core applyed automaticly ...
[04:28] <qwerty> asus a6000
[04:28] <lupine_85> All that I can figure out is that the ext2fs partition "thinks" that it's 900MB in size
[04:28] <lupine_85> when the physical disc space allocated to it is much higher
[04:29] <Arafangion> Ahh, ctrl + shift does the trick for unicode chars.
[04:29] <lupine_85> e2fsresize can rejig the partition so that it takes up more space
[04:29] <lupine_85> it can also trash your installation
[04:29] <lupine_85> SBC-single board computer
[04:29] <lupine_85> (use it as a router)
[04:30] <matthewf> lupine_85: ahh.. i have a VIA EPIA system here... bigger then a SBC but not by much heh
[04:30] <lupine_85> this uses a Geode processer
[04:30] <FlytteTyr> Jack_Sparrow: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 ABG is the card
[04:30] <lupine_85> still managed 128MB RAM, though which isn't too bad
[04:30] <Arafangion> lupine_85: You'd probably prefer to use alternatives to vi.
[04:30] <lupine_85> oh, yes. But they aren't on there
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[04:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:30] <lupine_85> so I effectively have no choice ;)
[04:30] <Arafangion> lupine_85: Ahh, well, that's the deal breaker :)
[04:31] <lupine_85> (well, unless I want to use cat, cut and echo like the REAL men)
[04:31] <[joemaxxx] > waaa i need to rebuild my kernel :(
[04:31] <[joemaxxx] > for the sake infra red *sigh*
[04:31] <erUSUL> Arafangion: intel has a web page with the linux driver of that card
[04:32] <lupine_85> !e2fstools
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e2fstools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <matthewf> lupine_85: i have this Mini ITX board installed in a full ATX case... it looks werid
[04:32] <lupine_85> ...what?
[04:32] <erUSUL> Arafangion: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[04:32] <lupine_85> matthewf: mine is about 8"x6" alu case
[04:32] <lupine_85> maybe 2" high
[04:32] <Arafangion> erUSUL: What's this for?
[04:32] <lupine_85> Does anyone know what Ubuntu calls e2fstools?
[04:33] <erUSUL> Arafangion: sorry the msg was for another person...
 you there mate
[04:33] <jay> [Help] How can I write files to USB media with FAT32 in unbuntu?
[04:33] <matthewf> lupine_85: well Mini ITX cases are expensive, picked up a small ATX mini tower for much less
[04:33] <erUSUL> FlytteTyr: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> yep, until coffee is ready, did you get your paste done
[04:33] <lupine_85> my "case" was 20, which I wasn't too impressed with
[04:33] <lupine_85> beats a pizza box though
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jay: yes
[04:34] <neuroe> how do i know which applications are built for gnome or kde now?
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> jay: usb media should show up on desktop
[04:34] <erUSUL> jay: plug the usb media wait untill the nautilus (explorer) window comes up and drag'n'drop files there
[04:34] <mathieu> neuroe: apt-get show ...
[04:34] <lupine_85> e.g. http://home.balcab.ch/njoroge/i11.pc.jpg
 weird thing, my problem seems to have fixed itself? for now but i still get that error upon logging in?
[04:34] <matthewf> lupine_85: to get a nice Mini-ITX case + PSU would have cost me over 100 .. this case cost me 60 .. w/ 300w PSU
[04:34] <lupine_85> neuroe: kde apps begin with "k"... ;)
[04:34] <mathieu> neurokde: and watch the dependecies
[04:34] <lupine_85> how much?!
[04:34] <mathieu> lupine_85: not all
[04:34] <jay> [Help] when i try to make a directory on a mounted usb file system, it tells "cann't create directory,:Read-only file system".what can i do?
[04:35] <lupine_85> most though
[04:35] <FlytteTyr> erUSUL: you are a genius :)
[04:35] <neurokde> thanks mathieu
[04:35] <lupine_85> most of the ones that don't, start with q instead
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: odd.. we can look at it later..
[04:35] <Filox> hello boys
 do i have to paste results for "xprop -root | grep XKB" "gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd"
[04:35] <Filox> how can i run jwm on ubuntu?
[04:35] <Filox> i have installed and compiled it
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jay: how do you know it is fat
[04:36] <matthewf> lupine_85: and oh my god that is the most getto case ive ever ever seen, infact why didnt you just run it caseless ?
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: not now no
[04:36] <matthewf> hehe
 ok
[04:36] <Filox> i cannot find xinitrc to put it jwm string
[04:36] <gnomefreak> neurokde: kde apps depend on lib3-mt gnome apps/xfce apps depend on libgtk  that is the only sure way to know
[04:36] <ShoeUnited> Is it feasible to run WoW in Wine or will cedega be my only choice?
[04:36] <lupine_85> matthewf: not mine ;)
[04:36] <rsk> wow works great in wine
[04:36] <cornel1> I'd asked a question earlier.... ubotu answered with  a link.  I installed the package suggested.  The page then said to run a comand, a build or make script.  I tried.  It said I don't a c compiler.  I installed gcc and ran again.  It still says I don't have a c compiler.  What do I do now?  How do "install" a c compiler, when I just did?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> !wow > ShoeUnited
[04:37] <ShoeUnited> rsk:  Cool ty ^_^
 would it do any harm for me to enter them in a terminal anyhow?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> ShoeUnited: read your pm :)
[04:37] <erUSUL> cornel1: install build-essential
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: not at all
[04:37] <Paddy_EIRE> sure
[04:37] <ShoeUnited> gnomefreaK:  I didn't think that wow would be under the bot's ask topic.  lol
[04:37] <erUSUL> !b-e > cornel1
[04:37] <Surfadas> i'm getting this error message on my log, can anyone help please? "Can't get system message bus name: Connection ":1.1" is not allowed to own the service "org.bluez" due to security policies in the configuration file" i have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[04:37] <matthewf> lupine_85: ah ok ...but still that is seriously getto
[04:37] <neurokde> mathieu, apt-get show isn't a command that i can tell
[04:37] <habeeb> !wow > Habeeb
[04:37] <gnomefreak> neurokde: it is when you add a program to it
[04:38] <cornel1> Can a human answer
[04:38] <cornel1> ?
[04:38] <salah> how do I count how many files there are in a directory?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> neurokde: apt-cache show amarok
[04:38] <lupine_85> salah: du would do it
[04:38] <neurokde> i tried konsole but no luck
[04:38] <lupine_85> and tell you hpw much space they take, as well
[04:38] <jay> Jack_Sparrow: help me, can you tell me how to know what fatmat is in the usb, NTFS or FAT?
[04:38] <ShoeUnited> !wow
[04:38] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[04:38] <gnomefreak> neurokde: konsole is kde app
[04:38] <lupine_85> or CTRL+A in a Nautilus window and look at the status bar
[04:38] <salah> lupine_85, what command exact? du -h shows many MB they take
[04:38] <Filox> i need to run jwm
[04:38] <erUSUL> cornel1: i told you to install build-essential
[04:38] <ShoeUnited> lol cool ^_^
[04:38] <lupine_85> not sure of the exact command. man du
[04:38] <nzk> Whats a good app for burning a bootable cd like a livecd in Ubuntu?
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> jay: you can run gparted, the partitioning program to identify that
[04:39] <neurokde> gnomefreak,  just testing, it says Invalid Operation show
[04:39] <Arafangion> Could someone please help me install kqemu? http://rafb.net/paste/results/8c3XmR12.html
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> nkz k3b
[04:39] <erUSUL> nzk: i just right click on the iso and choose burn
[04:39] <Arafangion> (that's part of the error I'm getting)
[04:39] <gnomefreak> neurokde: type in terminal apt-cache show konsole
[04:40] <gnomefreak> neurokde: it should print out a bunch of stuff (it works here fine)
[04:40] <neurokde> there we go
[04:40] <nzk> Does anyone know a linux maple story version
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> back in a few... must get my coffee....
[04:40] <chastech> I'm using Dappper.  Has anyone had problems burning data to DVDs
[04:40] <neurokde> it says apt-get has super cow powers, how do i use those?
[04:40] <neurokde> ;)
[04:40] <cornel1> I missed the part where it told me to install build-essential ;-)
[04:41] <shawarma> neurokde: apt-get moo
[04:41] <neurokde> shweet
[04:42] <chastech> It keeps telling me to insert a clean DVD to all that I replace
[04:42] <ShoeUnited> !soundblaster
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundblaster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <ShoeUnited> !creative
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about creative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <relachs> !windows
[04:43] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:44] <lupine_85> I like it :)
[04:44] <lupine_85> !doors
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <lupine_85> ah well
[04:44] <ShoeUnited> !midi controller
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about midi controller - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <ShoeUnited> !game pad
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about game pad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <ShoeUnited> :/
[04:45] <ShoeUnited> My stuff is either archaic or I'm way off base on questions.  lol
[04:45] <chastech> My DVD creator keeps telling me to put in a blank disk
[04:45] <MegaMasterX> Jack: The CheckCD Said 0 errors and the keyboard is not working for the installer T_T
[04:46] <mathieu> neurokde: eh?
[04:46] <jay> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, i check the file /etc/mtab,  it tells the usb media is ntfs format, not vfat, so it is not writtable.
[04:46] <mathieu> neurokde: sorry, apt-cache show
[04:46] <krazykit> MegaMasterX: is it a usb keyboard?  if so, try using either a ps/2 keyboard or use an adapter.  there may also be a "legacy" mode in your BIOS for usb
[04:46] <MrRio> Where would I post compiz bugs?
[04:46] <gonzoFish> hey all...i am looking for the Section 2 man pages and can only seem to find that the intro page exists for section 2, any idea how i can get those pages?
[04:47] <MegaMasterX> Krazykit: We already did this, its on a PS2 port
[04:47] <Renan_s2> !midi
[04:47] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[04:47] <liketoprogram> is it safe to use tools built into ubuntu to resize my secondary NTFS partition, and resize my main linux partition
[04:47] <yey> how can I list recusively all files in current and contained in current directories that matches some pattern like *.cpp ?
[04:47] <liketoprogram> is it safe to use tools built into ubuntu to resize my secondary NTFS partition, and resize my main linux partition?
[04:47] <krazykit> MegaMasterX: ah.  um.  well then.  have another keyboard handy?
[04:47] <Renan_s2> liketoprogram: it should be safe, but you should make backups
[04:47] <MegaMasterX> KrazyKit: Hes tried 4 different keyboards
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> liketoprogram,  use a live cd and gparted - is what ive done dozens of times.. defrag/scandisk the partitions befor and after resizing them
[04:47] <lupine_85> -R is recursive
[04:47] <Filox> running jwm ubunut?
[04:47] <lupine_85> (ls)
[04:48] <MrRio> yey: ls *.cpp
[04:48] <chastech> Can any one help with DVD Creator in Dapper?
[04:48] <krazykit> MegaMasterX: wow.  put the hard drive you want to install to in another machine is all i can suggest, then ;-)
[04:48] <ShoeUnited> !ntfs
[04:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:48] <liketoprogram> Renan_s2, Dr_Willis -- thank you!
[04:48] <lupine_85> ls -R *cpp ?
[04:48] <liketoprogram> bollocks to paying for partition magic!  down with the empire!   hehe
[04:48] <yey> lupine_85: in addition I'd like it to display just filenames
[04:48] <yey> lupine_85: no other info
[04:48] <MegaMasterX> krazykit: The keyboard works until the Kernel loads
[04:49] <yey> lupine_85: ls -1 -R *cpp doesn't work (displays just the content of current directory
[04:49] <MrRio> yey: find | grep cpp
[04:49] <punk> hello all
[04:49] <ShoeUnited> Oh! Another question.  currently the ntfs backup drive is set to windows XP compressed (I think they use a form of either gzip or pkunzip) Should I uncompress it before I install? Or will it still read the ntfs anyway?
[04:49] <MrRio> yey: that should do it
[04:49] <lupine_85> why the -1 ?
[04:49] <ShoeUnited> *decompress
[04:50] <ShoeUnited> Hi punk :)
[04:50] <yey> MrRio: thanks
[04:50] <MegaMasterX> krazykit: any ideas what is wrong with that picture?
[04:51] <yey> MrRio: and how can I copy all the files found to the specified single directory?
[04:51] <krazykit> MegaMasterX: not a single clue.  the computer just hates keyboards.
[04:51] <MegaMasterX> T_T
[04:51] <MrRio> yey: Not maintaining folder structure?
[04:51] <MegaMasterX> anyone else know?
[04:51] <lupine_85> pipe the output to cp?
[04:51] <yey> MrRio: yes
[04:51] <cornel1> Well... the build-essential was.... essential ;-)  Thanks
[04:52] <punk> I had a quick question, As I'm waiting for a second hard drive for my laptop to do dual boot with ubuntu, is xgl prety good on ubuntu?
[04:52] <erUSUL> cornel1: no problem
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> MegaMasterX,  these are  usb or ps2 keyboards? how old is this pc?
[04:52] <yey> MrRio: I'd like it to lose its current structure because it has to be completely changed
[04:52] <MegaMasterX> Dr_Willis: Not even a year old
[04:52] <MegaMasterX> and its ps2
[04:52] <punk> I had ubuntu running no problem before but i was curious to see the xgl stuff
[04:52] <iGadget> hi
[04:52] <lupine_85> so cp `find /patho/to/dir -name <pattern>` <dest-dir>
[04:53] <lupine_85> test somewhere unimportant first though
[04:53] <lupine_85> s//!/
[04:53] <iGadget> does anyone know how to change the looks of qt apps in gnome?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> MegaMasterX,  im suprised a yr old pc even HAS ps2 any more. :P   ive had all sorts of oddties with usb. but never ps2.. you dident plug the thing into the ps2 mouse connector port did ya? :P
[04:53] <Tomcat_> punk: Didn't work with movies for me, but it seems stable.
[04:53] <lupine_85> PS/2 is great :)
[04:53] <Ktron> Is there a program in synaptic that helps you configure settings for dual monitors?
[04:53] <punk> thanks Tomcat_
[04:53] <MegaMasterX> Dr_Willis: It works until the Kernel loads, and it's in the keyboard port
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> iGadget,  i recall there being some check box's under kde control panels to use the same themes in qt/gtk apps.. thought gnome had a similar thing.
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> MegaMasterX,  so it works with grub eh?
[04:54] <punk> Tomcat_: did you try it on a laptop by chance? I do have a nvidia 6800 in mine
[04:54] <lupine_85> weird/non-standard PS/2 port?
[04:54] <MrRio> yey: cp `find | grep cpp` foldertocopyto/
[04:54] <MegaMasterX> Dr_Willis: We cant find out, because the kernel loads and the keyboard doesn't respond
[04:54] <MrRio> yey: might not work if dirs have spaces in the name tho
[04:54] <MegaMasterX> dr_willis: but before it then it works
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> MegaMasterX,  I mean in the grub menus... ya got  'does it work in the bios menus' then 'the grub menus' then the actual booted os. :P
[04:55] <mikeje99> Anyone out there any good with screen resolutions
[04:55] <MegaMasterX> dr_willis: It does work in the bios menu
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> MegaMasterX,  i got a weird pc tht the keyboards work in bios menus and the OS. but NOT in the grub menus . :)
[04:55] <erUSUL> !fixres
[04:55] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:55] <MegaMasterX> Dr_Willis: It works in grub menus
[04:56] <thybo> system prefrences screen resolution
[04:56] <santa99> he guys where can i decide if i wan't to hear a sound when my battery charge is very low
[04:56] <mikeje99> Wow thybo you must be the one
[04:56] <MrRio> yey, did that work?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> MegaMasterX,   could check out the bios and perhaps try disabling the Plug and Play feature. (just grabbing at straws here)
[04:56] <lupine_85> surely to restart your X, you just can ctrl+alt+KP_BKSPACE ?
[04:56] <lupine_85> mm, the bios should be set to "PnP aware OS"
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> MegaMasterX,  also.. Hmm.. can ya ssh into the box from another pc? or cant even get it to install? im wondering if the psaux modules are loading.
[04:57] <MegaMasterX> Dr_Willis: ?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> I find that DISABLING the PnP Aware OS - works better
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> of course ive had so many odd machines.  its scary.
[04:57] <mikeje99> I'm trying to find a modeline that will get my Samsung 32inch to display 1360x768
[04:58] <yey> MrRio: yey@YEY:~/alg/usaco$ cp 'find | grep cpp' ./
[04:58] <yey> cp: cannot stat `find | grep cpp': No such file or directory
[04:58] <rsl> I'm trying to share [via Samba]  a directory on an external HD. [/media/sda1]  Can I just mount it following the same directions as if it were in my /home/public directorys or should I create a symbolic link between /home/public and /media/sda1
[04:58] <rsl> ?
[04:58] <MrRio> yey: backticks, not quotes
[04:58] <MrRio> yey:  cp `find | grep cpp` foldertocopyto/
[04:58] <chastech> Is there anybody out there?
[04:58] <MrRio> yey, ` is not '
[04:58] <yey> ok
[04:58] <MegaMasterX> dr_willis: theres nothing in his bios about PnP
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> rsl,  not sure that samba follows links that way.
[04:58] <roc_> Does anyone know from where to get a Cinerella Video Editor package for ubuntu?
[04:58] <andrewski> i have an 80GB hard drive that is being reported in gparted as 23GB... does anyone have an idea why that might be? :-/
[04:59] <texjoachim> can anyone help me with a printing problem?
[04:59] <yey> MrRio: it works
[04:59] <yey> thanks
[04:59] <MrRio> yey, no probs
[04:59] <texjoachim> I'm using kubuntu 6.06 on both server and client
[04:59] <chastech> Is there anybody out there?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> MegaMasterX,  its often called somthing else. or hidden in some sub menu.      Other then that.. id say test out some various different live cd's and see if any of them work right.
[04:59] <texjoachim> I can print fine via smb
[04:59] <Arafangion> Dr_Willis: Nothing's scary until you have a pc named "The Old Reliable", which has never been known to crash, even though it's a desktop class system (Not server class), and setup to run as a file server despite having a stick of memory partially inserted with the resulting bright blue sparks flashing through coupled with rather interesting static from the PC speaker. That memory slot is now dead, but everything else works fine!
[04:59] <rsl> Dr_Willis: So it's cool to create an entry in Samba that has path = /media/sda1?
[04:59] <andrewski> chastech: no
[04:59] <mikeje99> I'm beginning to think I should switch back to XP
[04:59] <andrewski> roc_: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php maybe?
[04:59] <chastech> i believe it
[04:59] <texjoachim> but when I send the printjob via ipp, the printer prints out the pcl statements
[04:59] <MegaMasterX> dr_willis: He checked the CD and no problems showed up
[04:59] <MrRio> mikeje99: What's your problem?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> rsl,  yep
[05:00] <Arafangion> Dr_Willis: Those 486's were damn fine machines.
[05:00] <ladydoor> chastech: what's the problem?
[05:00] <hikenboot> hello all--anyone know what the squashfs does on the live cd?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> MegaMasterX,  try DIFFERNT live cd's not just the ubuntu one.  Thanks so much.
[05:00] <Arafangion> hikenboot: Take a guess :)
[05:00] <chastech> My DVD creator keeps telling me to put in a blank disk
[05:00] <mikeje99> I've tried everything I can think of but I can only get 1024 on my screen. I'm trying to get 1360
[05:00] <iGadget> Dr_Willis: true, I know these checkboxes in KDE, but that's only to force GTK apps to take the looks of QT apps...
[05:00] <MrRio> mikeje99: having trouble getting a particular device working?
[05:00] <MegaMasterX> Dr_Willis: Ok, me and my friend will try that
[05:00] <Arafangion> hikenboot: Hint: Split up the term "squashfs" into two parts.
[05:00] <iGadget> Dr_Willis: I need it the other way around :)
[05:00] <chastech> im in dapper
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> MegaMasterX,  the DSL live cd is a good tool to haver in any case. :P 50mb of save-your-backside-goodness
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeje99: Did you install the correct drivers
[05:01] <MegaMasterX> lol
[05:01] <ladydoor> chastech: sorry...i don't know anything about dvd-creatin'
[05:01] <lupine_85> mikeje99: does the screen support it?
[05:01] <mikeje99> It's an onboard i810. I've tried 915resolution but no luck
[05:01] <lupine_85> (daft question maybe ;) )
[05:01] <MrRio> mikeje99, ATI or NVIDIA? And what is the make/model of your monitor?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> iGadget,  see you just showed that kde is better. :P  actually with kde there was some extra package that needed to be installed for that feature.  I dont use gnome enough to know if its even doable.
[05:01] <chastech> its just supposed to write to the dvd or cd i put in it
[05:01] <rsl> Dr_Willis: One more thing, do I need to chmod my /media/sda1 to 777?
[05:02] <MrRio> mikeje99, ahh right, whats ur laptop make/model?
[05:02] <lupine_85> rsl: not a good idea
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> rsl,  no.. you set the permissions on the samba share. and fstab when you mount the thing normally
[05:02] <mikeje99> It's an IBM Thinkcentre s50
[05:02] <andrewski> roc_: here also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100472&highlight=cinerella
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> rsl,  you normally NEVER chmod the mount points themeselfs
[05:02] <rsl> Dr_Willis: Is that what the create mask and directory mask are for in the samba conf?
[05:02] <hikenboot> after rebooting i forgot to remount it when customizing the cd and I am trying to figure out what problems this will cause and wether I should restart editing all over again
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> rsl,  bingo
[05:03] <mikeje99> Samsung say it supports 1360x768 @ 60mnz
[05:03] <h4ch3r> look guys : http://www.mininova.org/tor/237420
[05:03] <roc_> andrewski: danke danke man
[05:03] <andrewski> roc_: bitte sehr
[05:03] <ladydoor> chastech: is the cd mounted? i know it sounds like a stupid question, but try the command "soudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0"
[05:03] <iGadget> Dr_Willis: well the weird part is, in my account qt apps look just like gtk apps... but in my girlfriends account, qt apps just look terrible
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> iGadget,  fire up the kde theme tool and select the same theme :P
[05:04] <rsl> Thanks Dr_Willis and lupine_85 for all y'all's help!
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> rsl   http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:04] <roc_> andrewski: funny how so many people know how to speak german...
[05:04] <ShoeUnited> Oh! Another question.  currently the ntfs backup drive is set to windows XP compressed (I think they use a form of either gzip or pkunzip) Should I decompress it before I install? Or will it still read the ntfs anyway?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> the deffinitive guide on ntfs info. :P
[05:04] <andrewski> roc_: ausgezeichnet!
[05:04] <ProN00b> is there any dcc download manager for linux ?
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ShoeUnited: Uncompress
[05:04] <chastech> ladydoor:  In dapper if you put in a blank it shows up on the desktop and DVD creator pops up
[05:04] <mikeje99> MrRio do I need to buy a new PCI video card?
[05:05] <ShoeUnited> Jack_Sparrow:  K ty ^_^
[05:05] <roc_> andrewski: Kaffelffel aus silber
[05:05] <MrRio> mikeje99: is this an external monitor your using with this res?
[05:05] <ladydoor> roc:  well this *is* the german channel. note how we're *all* speaking german :-)
[05:05] <ladydoor> chastech: oh
[05:05] <mikeje99> Yes it's a Samsung le32r74bd 32inch lcd
[05:05] <ShoeUnited> The U.S. barely voted English as it's primary language choice in the late 1700's, beating out German by 2 votes
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Strudle!
[05:06] <chastech> ladyddor:so i dragged my files to it and clicked burn and it tells me insert a blank disk
[05:06] <iGadget> Dr_Willis: I can't find the kde theme tool in gnome... and in KDE it doesn't show the human theme...
[05:06] <andrewski> roc_: PM?
[05:06] <jhasse> Can someone tell me where i can find the php.ini??
[05:06] <ladydoor> chastech: ok, have you tried going ahead and hitting "continue?" i know that sometimes when i try to burn a cd, it tells me to insert a blank disc although one's already in there.
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> iGadget,  run 'kicker'  :) or konquerorer and use its menus to get to the kde control panel thing . i cant rember the name of the kde control panel program
[05:06] <ShoeUnited> 35 minutes until download complete. ^_^
[05:07] <MrRio> jhasse, /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[05:07] <chastech> ladydoor:let me see
[05:07] <roc_> andrewski: PM wha?
[05:07] <jhasse> MrRio: thx
 this is what i got out of those 2 commands man....if u got the time http://pastebin.com/777203
[05:08] <jhasse> How can i make a starter on the desktop which starts nautilus as root?
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> chastech: What program are you using ?  I had that problem once and it was user error.  THe software was set to write a CD and I was putting in a dvd..
[05:09] <ladydoor> jhasse: if you right-click on the desktop, do you have an option to create a starter?
[05:09] <MrRio> jhasse, gksudo nautilus
[05:09] <ShoeUnited> Oh ty Providence!  Windows at first said it'd need 1day 0 hours to decompress.  O.o
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> jhasse: I did that on mine as well
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> jhasse: create a launcher and gksudo nautilus as the command line
[05:10] <nomad111> hi all does any1 kno how to install the official intel gfx driver in ubuntu
[05:10] <jhasse> MrRio, thx!
[05:10] <chastech> Lack_Sparrow:  DVD Creator pops up when I insert a blank DVD
[05:10] <teicah> jsuther: from main menu|places drag 'computer' to desktop
[05:10] <nomad111> for 945gm
[05:10] <jhasse> Jack_Sparrow, thx
[05:10] <Bo1> Does anyone know why on bootup Preparing restricted drivers fail, and how I can fix this?
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> jhasse: I also changed the ICON to indicate DAN~G~ER`
[05:10] <teicah> jsuther sorry.. i meant jhasse
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jhasse: Sorry.. puppy just jumped in my lap.. 12 weeks of energy
[05:11] <ladydoor> teicah: would that start it *as* root, or just at /?
[05:11] <DeeTahPanLtah> i've totally messed up kde settings. how do i reset them,without removing all of ~/ files?
[05:11] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jhasse: She is soooo cute
[05:11] <DeeTahPanLtah> i've totally messed up kde settings. how do i reset them,without removing all of ~/ files?
[05:12] <andrewski> DeeTahPanLtah: #kubuntu
[05:12] <jhasse> Jack_Sparrow: ^^ I will make the danger-icon
[05:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> okay...
[05:12] <ubuntu> merhaba
[05:12] <ladydoor> andrewski: i think that what andrewski means to say is that there's a channel specifically for help with kubuntu issues :-)
[05:12] <ladydoor> andrewski: sorry
[05:12] <ladydoor> DeeTahPanLtah: i think that what andrewski means to say is that there's a channel specifically for help with kubuntu issues :-)
[05:12] <Bo1> how do I go on about fixing "Preparing Restricted Drivers: Failed" at boot up?
[05:13] <DeeTahPanLtah> ladydoor: gathered
[05:13] <andrewski> ladydoor: no, you upgraded my message; thanks. ;)
[05:13] <chastech> ladydoor: Reload a writable or blank Disk - it doesn't have continue - eject, cancel and OK
[05:13] <ladydoor> DeeTahPanLtah
[05:13] <DeeTahPanLtah> YEAH? ;P
[05:13] <ladydoor> chastech: try OK?
[05:14] <Hane> i'm quite new here and the game i was in was terminated, anyone mind helping me know what that means? :>
[05:14] <ladydoor> andrewski: np...
[05:14] <ladydoor> DeeTahPanLtah: oh, i meant to type sorry
[05:14] <chastech> it keeps on poping up - Reload a writable or blank Disk
[05:14] <teicah> say.. I use fetchmail to retrieve my pop mail, and mutt to read it.  If a ms-windows user emails me, and his client requests a return receipt, does he get it?
[05:14] <DeeTahPanLtah> ladydoor: ;'P
[05:15] <chastech> ladydoor: it keeps on poping up - Reload a writable or blank Disk
[05:15] <linux__alien> For a 17 inch monitor whats the suitable screen resolution. Ubuntu puts me in 1280 * 1024 but what is best
[05:15] <ubuntu> is everybody from turkey
[05:15] <Enselic> I'm totally new to sed, and I'm trying to get an extraction of the result of ps
[05:15] <Enselic> I want
[05:15] <Enselic> yada yada 00:00:02 bash
[05:15] <Enselic> yada yada 00:00:01 x
[05:15] <Enselic> yada yada 00:00:02 firefox
[05:15] <Enselic> to become
[05:15] <ladydoor> chastech: oh...crap. have you tried a different program?
[05:15] <Enselic> bash
[05:15] <Enselic> x
[05:15] <Enselic> firefox
[05:15] <Enselic> I am trying this:
[05:15] <trygg> linux__alien: anything that you get 85hz in :)
[05:15] <Enselic> ps -A | sed -e 's/00:00:[[:digit] ] \{2} (.*)/\1/g'
[05:15] <bobbob1016> lupine_85: sorry to bother you again, but I still can't get the DWL-G122 to work, I followed these directions to install the driver (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/DWL-G122_%28Rev_B%29), are you using the daily driver or some other one?
[05:15] <Enselic> but I get this error message:
[05:15] <Enselic> sed: -e expression #1, char 32: unterminated `s' command
[05:15] <Enselic> Can anyone see why?
[05:16] <linux__alien> trygg, i ve now set 1024 * 768 and i ve set it to 85hz is that Ok?
[05:16] <trygg> linux__alien: whatever floats your boat :)
[05:16] <lupine_85> daily
[05:16] <linux__alien> but after seeing 1280 * 1024 This looks very big
[05:16] <erUSUL> Enselic: ps -A | awk '{print $4}
[05:16] <lupine_85> but not using WPA
[05:16] <trygg> If you can get 85hz in 1280 i would personally have runt it
[05:16] <erUSUL> Enselic: ps -A | awk '{print $4}'
[05:16] <bobbob1016> oh, ok, so should I try ndiswrapper then?
[05:16] <ladydoor> Enselic: also, i think that if you put a \ before that space it would help
[05:16] <chastech> ladydoor: na! forget it I'm using dapper and this should really be all set!
[05:17] <ShoeUnited> linux__alien: It depends on what your monitor and drivers can naitively support.  It'd be a good idea to find the boxes for your video card and monitor, or their support booklets.
[05:17] <mkdigital> hi, anyone here?
[05:18] <mkdigital> i've a little problem w my laptop and ubuntu
[05:18] <ladydoor> chastech: um, ok. whatever.
[05:18] <MrRio> mkdigital: ask away :)
[05:18] <Enselic> erUSUL: Hey that was easy :D
[05:18] <Enselic> ladydoor: hmm, it didn't, but you are probably right, I need to escape more characters
[05:18] <ShoeUnited> linux__alien: Like my monitor can do 1900x1280 but for vga input it only supports 1380x1280
[05:18] <mkdigital> problem is, if i insert the instlal cd, and boot up, the system is extremely slow
[05:18] <teicah> gimme a sec, i'll try to read your mind
[05:18] <linux__alien> ShoeUnited, i ve a GE-Force Card  which has got 256 MB VRAM and i ve got a Samsung 17 inches monitor
[05:19] <ladydoor> Enselic: odd...ok, how about this...what if you up the whole expression in quotes?
[05:19] <chastech> ladydoor: I dont know what choices i have in dapper i thought dvd creator was all
[05:19] <erUSUL> Enselic: indeed lol allways choose the right tool for the job
[05:19] <MrRio> mkdigital: It's running from the CD, and can be pretty slow if you have less than 5112mb of ram
[05:19] <mkdigital> well, i got 1G of DDR2 Ram
[05:19] <linux__alien> ShoeUnited, I was initially using FC5 and it used to support only 1024  * 768 resolution but this is the first time i am seeing 1280 * 1024 resolution and it looked very different
[05:19] <mkdigital> its a core duo
[05:19] <ladydoor> chastech: well, in synaptic, you might check out the "other filesystems" section or do a search for "dvd"
[05:20] <mkdigital> 1,6GHz, that shouldnt be the problem
[05:20] <Enselic> erUSUL: yeah, awk was the next tutorial, I did grep and was on sed, awk was next :P
[05:20] <ShoeUnited> linux__alien: Depending on which geforce series, it should support just about any resolution.  go to samsung's site and look for your model number.  It will list what resolutions at what frequencies (hz) it supports.
[05:20] <ladydoor> chastech:  good luck...
[05:20] <MrRio> mkdigital, How slow?
[05:20] <ShoeUnited> linux__alien: Because if you don't pick a good combo, it will look garbled on your screen. I've done that before.  lol
[05:20] <mkdigital> for example clicking install on the deskto to install the system, the screen appears about 1 minute later
[05:21] <chastech> ladydoor:  thanks for your help and wishes i'll need it
[05:21] <linux__alien> ShoeUnited, it does not grabbled it looked perfect just that i thought whether i should change my resolution to 1024
[05:21] <linux__alien> but 1024 looks big
[05:21] <ladydoor> chastech: np. i hope you get this working!
[05:21] <mkdigital> for the whole install procedure, up to the point where it installs to hdd i needet allmost an hour
[05:21] <linux__alien> :-)
[05:21] <mkdigital> i quit it then
[05:21] <MrRio> mkdigital, There is a text-mode installer
[05:21] <chastech> ladydoor:  that's very nice of you to say
[05:21] <linux__alien> ShoeUnited, but when i set it to 1280 * 1024 the refresh rate is set to 60 hz but i am unable to change it. is 60 Ok?
[05:22] <erUSUL> mkdigital: try with the alternate cd
[05:22] <ShoeUnited> linux__alien:  Right, I'm just saying if you're trying something out like cutting tv's together to make a continuous desktop like I did once. lol  Unusually high or unusually paired resolutions & frequencies can make it look funny.
[05:22] <mkdigital> yes, but graphic mode shouldnt be the problem, since other distros are running fine on gnome or kde
[05:22] <erUSUL> !alternate > mkdigital
[05:22] <phargle> mkdigital: and also make sure speedstep is disabled
[05:22] <MrRio> mkdigital, Do you have more than one cd drive?
[05:22] <Ktron> What do I need to install with synaptic to get flash plugins in firefox working?
[05:22] <ShoeUnited> linux__alien:  60Hz is fine.
[05:22] <jazzrocker> mkdigital, meh the installer is slow, what can i say
[05:22] <mkdigital> no it is a laptop
[05:22] <eaque> hi
[05:22] <erUSUL> Ktron: flash-plugin ??
[05:22] <jazzrocker> mkdigital, a core duo laptop?
[05:22] <mkdigital> hmm how can i disable speedstep
[05:22] <ladydoor> chastech: well, that's because i'm super-nice, *obviously* :-)
[05:22] <mkdigital> yes
[05:23] <mkdigital> T2050
[05:23] <MrRio> Ktron, flashplugin-nonfree
[05:23] <erUSUL> Ktron: flashplugin-nonfree
[05:23] <MrRio> Ktron, make sure you enable the universe repo
[05:23] <MrRio> mkdigital: in your bios usually
[05:24] <chastech> ladydoor:  yes it is very obvious I wish I had a picture of you
[05:24] <mkdigital> hmm bios doesnt let me change much
[05:24] <mkdigital> except time and boot order
[05:24] <jazzrocker> mkdigital, given that the hardware is so new i'd be reluctant to drop the $$$ on one for linux, though i've heard they're fully compatible
[05:24] <MrRio> mkdigital, I've had a couple of laptops with speedstep, and they've both had an 'on' 'off' in the bios
[05:24] <jazzrocker> mkdigital, yeh and then there's that
[05:24] <ladydoor> chastech: no offense, but i don't give out anything identifiable except my gender and my first name over the internet if i don't have to
[05:24] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, i don't even give out my first name
 to right
[05:25] <mkdigital> you think speed step is the reason? downclocked to 800Mhz?
[05:25] <jazzrocker> but i'll give either of my genders to anyone who's lacking one :P
[05:25] <mkdigital> yes, laptop is new
[05:25] <chastech> ladydoor: oh no darlin - it was a compliment
[05:25] <mkdigital> benq joybook r55
[05:25] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: well...door may not even be my first name :-)
[05:25] <ladydoor> chastech: ...
[05:25] <ShoeUnited> ladydoor: I let them know just about everything about me.  If they're some crazy, I'll kill them.  lol
[05:25] <jazzrocker> hah
[05:25] <jazzrocker> mkdigital, benq makes notes?
[05:26] <mkdigital> yes, but i think its onyl popular in europe
[05:26] <nomad111> hey everyone where can i change the gfx card type for my laptop in ubuntu
[05:26] <nomad111> like get access to other drivers
[05:26] <jazzrocker> ahhh, i was gonna say: you bought a laptop from a CD-Burner manufacturer?
[05:26] <lupine_85>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:26] <nomad111> coz at the moment my max resolution can only be 1024x768
[05:26] <ladydoor> ShoeUnited: good plan. but i keep having to move further out to bury the bodies as it is. *sigh*
[05:26] <MrRio> nomad111: what make of graphics card does your laptop have?
[05:26] <nomad111> and its frustrating
[05:26] <chastech> jazzyrocker: why would anyone ask you your name
[05:26] <nomad111> intel 945gm
[05:26] <ShoeUnited> LOL
[05:26] <erUSUL> nomad111: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:26] <hand_> Hey
[05:26] <MrRio> nomad111, install 9115resolution in synaptic
[05:26] <hand_> I get an apt-get install error
[05:27] <jazzrocker> chastech, no one has so far
[05:27] <ShoeUnited> ladydoor:  It helps to have a father who does reburials for a business. ;)
[05:27] <nomad111> MrRio: i did that and then what
[05:27] <ladydoor> hand_:  what error?
[05:27] <mkdigital> jazzrocker benq manufactures tft's, laptops and much more, but i think they're big in europe, not in US
[05:27] <jazzrocker> chastech, and my name has no y in it
[05:27] <nomad111> MrRio: where do i go from there
[05:27] <MrRio> nomad111, restart the X server, ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:27] <ladydoor> ShoeUnited: aha! that would be helpful. unfortunately, mine doesn't :-(
[05:27] <jazzrocker> mkdigital, the benq USA site doesn't list any laptops so i guess not
[05:27] <ladydoor> hand_:  what error?
[05:27] <gre1> is there an nes emulator for ubuntu that i dont have to compile?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> !info nes
[05:28] <ubotu> Package nes does not exist in any distro I know
[05:28] <chastech> jazzrocker: i didnt put one in it - mine doesnt have any e's or a's
[05:28] <mkdigital> well, i tryed few distros now, fedora, opensuse, debian(!!!), and they all installed fine, exept ubuntu
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> gre1,  try 'apt-cache search nes'
[05:28] <Ktron> so if I open up synaptic, have every repository checked except for the CDs, and search for 'flashplugin-nonfree' and don't find anything...
[05:28] <mkdigital> and they all worked out with gnome or kde
[05:28] <ShoeUnited> I'm sorry, but what's so bad about compiling.  I was soooo proud of myself when I compiled the first time.  Course this was quite a few years ago under Redhat 9.  I now feeling so newbish.  lol
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> gre1, nestra - Nintendo Entertainment System emulator
[05:29] <jazzrocker> chastech, "<chastech> jazzyrocker: why would anyone ask you your name"
[05:29] <jazzrocker> ------------------------^
[05:29] <chastech> jazzrocker: got ya!!!
[05:29] <ShoeUnited> ouch,..
[05:29] <gre1> theres nothing wrong with compiling i just dont intend to learn how
[05:30] <jazzrocker> chastech, jazzy is an adjective to describe eccentric and or girlie mannerisms. jazz is a genre of music.
[05:30] <MrRio> You feel kinda bad when you tell someone to restart the X server and they dont come back
[05:30] <mcphail> gre1: zsnes does super nintendo
[05:30] <jazzrocker> MrRio, hahaha
[05:30] <ladydoor> gre1: it is a very useful skill to have if you want something not in the repos...plus, it's just three commands:  ./configure, make, & then sudo make install
[05:30] <ShoeUnited> Now I feel bad for DJ Jazzy-Jeff
[05:30] <gan|y|med> hi
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> Some times its just 3 commands. :P
[05:30] <chastech> jazz: chas is short for Charles
[05:30] <ladydoor> Dr_Willis: yeah
[05:31] <jazzrocker> ShoeUnited, hehehe, he was nevery very un-jazzy in the first place - so the name fits anyway :)
[05:31] <erUSUL> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[05:31] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:31] <mcphail> Hmm, compiling is not really a skill...
[05:31] <ShoeUnited> lol
[05:31] <erUSUL> Ktron: it is in multiverse
[05:31] <gre1> ladydoor:DAMN u
[05:31] <ShoeUnited> mcphail: to a windows user it's high tech s***
[05:31] <ladydoor> mcphail: right, but semantics
[05:31] <mcphail> ...and neither is ./configure && make && sudo make install universal
[05:31] <gre1> now i kno:(
[05:31] <ladydoor> gre1: that was totally uncalled for. back off
[05:32] <jazzrocker> mcphail, sure it's a skill if you're not a coder
[05:32] <ShoeUnited> gre1: ... and knowing is half the battle... G.I. JOE!
[05:32] <linuxboy> I have a problem with universal
[05:32] <linuxboy> 17:31 < gre1> now i kno:(
[05:32] <mcphail> And, of course, checkinstall is a much more useful command than make install
[05:32] <linuxboy> gah
[05:32] <nox-Hand> Hey
[05:33] <nox-Hand> I get this apt-get error, and I need help :/  http://paste.lisp.org/display/24809
[05:33] <jazzrocker> mcphail, i'm a coder and i don't even know about checkinstall lol... what's that do by default?
[05:33] <ShoeUnited> I always wondered though, if knowing is half the battle what is doing?  Firing weapons and forgetting about Destro for a week?
[05:33] <mcphail> jazzrocker: it'll make and install a .deb file which can be removed later, reinstalled or shared with dpkg or qpt
[05:34] <mcphail> apt
[05:34] <gre1>  ladydoor: sryy was just a joke
[05:34] <ShoeUnited> I mean, we're kids right?  They just assume we know the other half of the battle.  So now I know, but that doesn't help since I wasn't told to follow in that knowledge. :/
[05:34] <jazzrocker> mcphail, huh... so that's a deb/ubuntu specific thing then?
[05:34] <mcphail> jazzrocker: no, it can make rpms etc as well
[05:34] <phargle> ShoeUnited: its like, you know enough not to take a toaster in the bathtub - so thats half.. the other half is keeping your head above the water
[05:35] <jazzrocker> mcphail, i guess i'm wondering: is that part of the makefile? or is that part of make?
[05:35] <ShoeUnited> But if the toaster is plugged in, it doesn't matter how far my head is above water.  Electricity is like that.
[05:35] <mcphail> jazzrocker: the problem with "make install" is that there is often not an "uninstall" rule in the makefile
[05:35] <MattRhodes> when using automatix, at the end of a package installation it prompts me to choose if I want to restore my original source file, should I click ok or cancel?
[05:35] <mcphail> jazzrocker: it is a separate package
[05:35] <linuxboy> I have a problem with nautilus eating all my ram
[05:35] <GameOver69> hey guys.... i know i hav java installed and im sure i have the firefox plugin installed.. but everytime i go to a webpage that has java firefox crashes... what can i do to fix this?
[05:35] <jazzrocker> mcphail, erm... what is a separate package?
[05:35] <linuxboy> I have a problem with nautilus eating all my ram and my cpu and swap
[05:35] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: something you might do is to back up your original source file and hit yes, and then copy-paste any lines you want to keep into the new one
[05:35] <mcphail> jazzrocker: checkinstall
[05:36] <nox-Hand> I get this apt-get error, and I need help :/  http://paste.lisp.org/display/24809
[05:36] <jazzrocker> mcphail, as in a fully separate program from make? or as in a component for make?
[05:36] <jazzrocker> or as in something else
[05:36] <Arafangion> Does Ubuntu install TAP network interfaces by default?
[05:36] <MattRhodes> ladydoor: hi again, sorry I'm still a n00b I'm afraid, I dont even know what a source file is, let alone finding it :p
[05:37] <jazzrocker> Arafangion, if you're smart enough to ask you're smart enough to go find out :)
[05:37] <mcphail> jazzrocker: it will call make with the "install" target, but instead of letting make do the copy commands to /usr/bin etc, it will create a .deb which can be installed
[05:37] <ShoeUnited> lol I'm sitting here going "What's a TAP network?" lol
[05:37] <jazzrocker> mcphail, huh ok
[05:37] <jazzrocker> ShoeUnited, me too actually
[05:37] <theneb> lo all, can I install Ubuntu Dapper off my install of gentoo?
[05:37] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: oh! lol. sorry. don't worry, we're all noobs at heart :-). and it's at /etc/apt/sources.list. so do "cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.bak
[05:37] <ladydoor> "
[05:38] <ladydoor> theneb: like, on top of it?
[05:38] <Arafangion> jazzrocker: Point!
[05:38] <jazzrocker> theneb, hahahah, you've got gentoo but you don't know the answer to that question?
[05:38] <theneb> I'm looking for some sort of install on the cd
[05:38] <jazzrocker> theneb, define "off of"
[05:38] <theneb> I want to have both
[05:38] <ganymed_> hi
[05:38] <ganymed_> does anybody use the proprietary ati drivers in version 8.28?
[05:38] <jazzrocker> theneb, the Ubuntu installer will resize partitions
[05:38] <ladydoor> theneb: oh, ok. you need to make a / partition for ubuntu
[05:38] <MattRhodes> ladydoor: btw I've made some headway with the greeter crash, a couple of other people have made an entry on the forum about it, but no-one knows what to do about it, but I discovered if I choose plain theme it still gives the crash message but loads the theme, and if I choose themed it gives the crash message and loads Gnome Desktop Manager, so at least I get my theme, lol
[05:38] <jazzrocker> theneb, so just make a new partition for Ubuntu
[05:38] <ladydoor> theneb: you do have a separate /home partition, right?
[05:38] <theneb> yes the partition is all there, but where is the ubuntu installer on the cd
[05:39] <theneb> ?
[05:39] <GameOver69> hey guys.... i know i hav java installed and im sure i have the firefox plugin installed.. but everytime i go to a webpage that has java firefox crashes... what can i do to fix this?
[05:39] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, using the same /home between gentoo and Ubuntu could easily be a bad idea
[05:39] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: well, i'm glad you're making headway :-D
[05:39] <MrRio> GameOver69: how did you install the java-plugin?
[05:39] <MattRhodes> lol
[05:39] <jazzrocker> so i'm not sure what a separate /home has to do with anything
[05:39] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: good point. it would be nice to have access to your personal files though
[05:39] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, it's called mount
[05:39] <GameOver69> MrRio, repos... i used the sunjava 1.5 one
[05:40] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: yeah, that's true.
[05:40] <MrRio> GameOver69, hmm, strange, which sites have you tried?
[05:40] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, and ubuntu installer will detect and mount the gentoo partition if it can
[05:40] <theneb> where is the ubuntu installer though?
[05:40] <jazzrocker> theneb, yes, the ubuntu install is on the CD
[05:40] <eric__> I wonder if anybody has time for a newbie question?
[05:40] <GameOver69> anything with java.... like not even myspace will work
[05:40] <theneb> in what path?
[05:40] <ladydoor> eric__: what's the question?
[05:40] <eric__> I have ubuntu all installed and set up on a Celeron box I have here.
[05:40] <ladydoor> theneb: it's on the desktop
[05:40] <GameOver69> java works though... because azureus opens fine
[05:40] <ShoeUnited> Make sure that firefox knows how to handle the java in its config.  sometimes it needs kicked in the head.  lol
[05:41] <GameOver69> so its something with mozilla
[05:41] <jazzrocker> theneb, it's a live installer so you must boot from the CD all the way into X and then run the Installer from GNOME
[05:41] <eric__> I have a big huge hard disk (250 Gb) which presently is all one partition.
[05:41] <nox-Hand> Help?
[05:41] <MattRhodes> ladydoor: also I used automatix to install the OpenOffice clipart, but I cant find it anywhere, would that be because I restored the original source file?
[05:41] <jazzrocker> theneb, or KDE for Kubuntu or XFCE for Xubuntu etc etc
[05:41] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, well how can i kick it in the head?
[05:41] <theneb> I know that it's on the desktop if I boot the cd, however I'd prefer not to loose the gentoo functionality whilst I install]
[05:41] <jazzrocker> GameOver69, ktorrent > azureus
[05:41] <eric__> I want to install OpenSUSE and Freespire too.
[05:41] <theneb> Hence I would like to install Ubuntu whilst still in gentoo
[05:41] <jazzrocker> theneb, wiki
[05:41] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: you should still be able to find it...try restarting openoffice?
[05:41] <GameOver69> jazzrocker, thanks but i like azuereus
[05:41] <jazzrocker> GameOver69, ever tried ktorrent?
[05:41] <harisund> Hello! Does anyone know of a good DHCP server for Ubuntu? All the DHCPd I have tried so far assume that all my network interfaces should be used for listening. I want my eth0 to be a DHCP client and eth1 to be a DHCP server please.
[05:41] <jazzrocker> GameOver69, it doesn't require java
[05:41] <GameOver69> jazzrocker, no
[05:42] <eric__> Is there a good tutorial/idiot's guide that would walk me through partitioning and setting up GRUB?  Is it even possible to do this without screwing up my Ubuntu?
[05:42] <ShoeUnited> Azureus takes up too much processing power with java for my liking.
[05:42] <MrRio> GameOver69: didn't think myspace used java, isn't it just flash?
[05:42] <ladydoor> theneb: you probably need one of the specialty install cds then, instead of the desktop livecd
[05:42] <MattRhodes> ladydoor: okay, once its installed should there be an option added to openoffice for clipart?
[05:42] <nox-Hand> Please?
[05:42] <nox-Hand> ;)
[05:42] <jazzrocker> GameOver69, so then how do you know whether you like azureus better than ktorrent?
[05:42] <ShoeUnited> It's why I'm ditching windows.
[05:42] <nathanael> *sigh*
[05:42] <Arafangion> jazzrocker: I'm hoping ot use it as a means of using the Uni VPN.
[05:42] <GameOver69> MrRio, thats what i thought... but other sights with flash work so... i assume its because of java
[05:42] <gre1> nvr ditch windows
[05:42] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: i *think* so...i don't use openoffice, but that would be my guess :-)
[05:42] <Buller> when is ubuntu being updated-?
[05:42] <jazzrocker> Arafangion, well good for you. i hope that works out.
[05:42] <GameOver69> jazzrocker, i dont :)
[05:42] <Arafangion> gre1: I've ditched windows, using qemu to run it instead.
[05:42] <MattRhodes> ladydoor: cheers
[05:42] <visik7> harisund: dhcp3-server
[05:42] <nathanael> I'm on SLED 10.1 because XGL works out-of-the box. But I wish it was ubuntu... (Dell Lat. D800)
[05:42] <eric__> Buller - edgy is due out 10/06.
[05:42] <theneb> I'll give the alternative cd a go
[05:43] <mcphail> Buller: it is updated on an almost daily basis
[05:43] <MrRio> GameOver69: you can disable the plugin in firefox preferences
[05:43] <nathanael> Why can't it be so easy on Ubuntu?
[05:43] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: lol...thanks. you would've figured it out though :-)
[05:43] <jazzrocker> GameOver69, so then don't imply that you know whether you like azureus better
[05:43] <Buller> super...
[05:43] <MattRhodes> ladydoor: btw what is the 'source list' ?
[05:43] <jazzrocker> ala "<GameOver69> jazzrocker, thanks but i like azuereus"
[05:43] <nox-Hand> Buller: You dont even use Ubuntu, fatbutt :P
[05:43] <GameOver69> MrRio, how can i do that
[05:43] <MrRio> GameOver69, preferences > content > enable java
[05:43] <Buller> watch your language,,,
[05:43] <MrRio> GameOver69, in the edit dropdown
[05:43] <nox-Hand> Stop spamming the network with useless info, you are right beside me, nerd wannabe
[05:43] <GameOver69> jazzrocker, cause i do... i still use it in winblows... iover all the other non java clients
[05:43] <eric__> Little help?
[05:44] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: it's a file that tells apt-get (which is what synaptic, aptitude, etc. are frontends to) where to look for packages
[05:44] <ShoeUnited> GameOver69:  http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[05:44] <visik7> nathanael: xgl is made by novell
[05:44] <eric__> Looking for a guide to partition and configure GRUB so I can use multiple linux distros.
[05:44] <ShoeUnited> That'll test virtual machine for you.
[05:44] <visik7> nathanael: btw isn't so difficult to setup xgl on ubuntu
[05:44] <MrRio> GameOver69: try that and tell me if you still get the crashes
[05:44] <nathanael> YEs, it is.
[05:44] <jazzrocker> GameOver69, whatever, i guess this is all a bit over your head, that's ok :)
[05:44] <GameOver69> MrRio, its enabled
[05:44] <MrRio> GameOver69: disable it
[05:44] <nathanael> It doesn't ever work right
[05:44] <nathanael> crashes the gnome session etc.
[05:44] <Arafangion> jazzrocker: The hard part is finding _correct_ instructions :(
[05:44] <eric__> visik7: Been trying to get XGL/COmpiz to go for weeks - well beyond my novice nerd skill level.
[05:44] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, firefox tells me i need to install the plugin
[05:44] <jazzrocker> Arafangion, and what do i have to do with the price of beans in China?
[05:45] <ShoeUnited> Check your settings.
[05:45] <visik7> eric__: I got xgl working in 5 minutes following the guide on the wiki
[05:45] <nathanael> eric_: SLED 10.1 does it with the click of  buttin
[05:45] <nathanael> *button
[05:45] <GameOver69> MrRio, why would i disable it?
[05:45] <MattRhodes> ladydoor: ahh right
[05:45] <eric__> nathanael - What about OpenSUSE?
[05:45] <nathanael> But does not have the community, IRC chan, or apt-goodness of ubuntu
[05:45] <Arafangion> jazzrocker: You may do with beans whatever you like :)
[05:45] <eric__> nathanael - Gots no money.
[05:45] <nathanael> Not sure about opensuse
[05:45] <nathanael> Me neither
[05:45] <visik7> eric__: what do you want to do with grub ?
[05:45] <MrFlint> Hello, can someone assist me with a problem i have, installing Ubuntu?
[05:46] <nathanael> I have the DVD and a temp serial
[05:46] <jazzrocker> Arafangion, well i'm glad i have your permission :P
[05:46] <jazzrocker> MrFlint, just ask
[05:46] <ShoeUnited> GameOver69:  about:config  type that in your firefox address bar.  Search for java
[05:46] <jazzrocker> MrFlint, if we can, we'll help
[05:46] <eric__> visik7 - I'm not sure I even know what I'm saying - I want to be able to choose which distro I run when I launch - ubuntu, openSUSE or freespire.
[05:46] <Jamminpotato> so if i have a hdd thats mounted, its an ext2 fs, and it is set to read only, how can i change that...would i use chmod?
[05:46] <nathanael> I'm wondering if anyone here has XGL on Ubuntu on a Dell LAtitiude D800?
[05:46] <GameOver69> MrRio, i disabled it but it still crashes
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  using several different linux distros at the same time - can take some work.
[05:46] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, ok one sec
[05:46] <visik7> eric__: depending on your setup you need to add a section for each distro
[05:47] <visik7> eric__: btw
[05:47] <MattRhodes> does anyone else know for sure where you would find openoffice clipart once automatix installed it?
[05:47] <linux__alien> I have kept 1024 * 768 as my resolution i want to change the font size of the whole gnome desktop environment to a lesser size. How do i do that?
[05:47] <MrFlint> well for some reason i cant get past the loading stage, after the bar gets full it switches to a blank screen with a single non flashing underscore...
[05:47] <eric__> Dr_Willis - the work doesn't bother me - Question is if I can do it without screwing up what I've done on ubuntu.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  normally you pick one to keep track of the grub/mbr then you use it to configure grub to allow the others to boot.
[05:47] <visik7> eric__: if ubuntu is the first linux you have installed you should have grub installed in Mbr
[05:47] <eric__> visik7: OK.
[05:47] <Jamminpotato> so if i have a hdd thats mounted, its an ext2 fs, and it is set to read only, how can i change that...would i use chmod?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  if your Grub-Fu is strong. :P its not hard.. BUT ubuntu uses taht update-grub stuff whenever a new kernel is installed.. that may undo your changes
[05:47] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: later on you'll probably end up adding lines to it if you want some weirdo thiny that's not in the repos. it's basically just copy-paste stuff
[05:47] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: Arafangion:  personally, i'm a fan of eating them
[05:47] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, ok there are a few lines in the about:config
[05:47] <visik7> eric__: is this your situation ?
[05:48] <JamieBE> Can someone please tell me what the lost + found directory is for please, it is sitting at 6GB and I am running low on space now. Is it safe to clear this folder?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> JamieBE,  when fsck finds files that are lost - they7 get tossed in there.
[05:48] <ShoeUnited> GameOver69: Type in java into the filter bar.
[05:48] <MrFlint> now i tested the cd with the tester that comes with it and it fine, no corruptions or anything.. but it just freezes after loading
[05:48] <eric__> visik7: Right now I have straight ubuntu on a 250 Gb hard drive on an x86 (celeron) frankenstein box I put together.
[05:48] <erUSUL> JamieBE: is for files recupered by fsck
[05:48] <MattRhodes> ladydoor: what is likely to happen if I let automatix overwrite my source file?
[05:48] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, did that
[05:48] <ShoeUnited> K
[05:48] <visik7> eric__: so you need to resize it
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> JamieBE,  that meads you have had some serious drive issues lately it seems.
[05:48] <JamieBE> What is fsck?
[05:48] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, file system check
[05:49] <eric__> visik7: Can I do that without having to nuke my drive?
[05:49] <MrFlint> so im curious what did i do wrong?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> !fsck
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <ShoeUnited> GameOver69: You should have about 8 options
[05:49] <f1assistance> what would I use to play .wma files?
[05:49] <Jamminpotato> jazzrocker, why would i fsck it?
[05:49] <visik7> eric__: I've used gparted booted from my usb stick and everything was fine
[05:49] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: i don't know what it would overwrite it with, which is why i'd suggest making a backup. but as to the lines it would put in there, it would basically allow for easy upgrades of everything it installed. as it is, they'll just be static
[05:49] <eric__> flassistance: Real is supposed to have .wma support now.
[05:49] <erUSUL> JamieBE: the 6Gb (5% of total size) are reserved by default in root filesystem to avoid fragmantation and other problems
[05:49] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, if you had a power outage and didn't get to manually shut down
[05:49] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, there are 11
[05:49] <linux__alien> I have kept 1024 * 768 as my resolution i want to change the font size of the whole gnome desktop environment to a lesser size. How do i do that?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> f1assistance,  vlc, xine, mplayer can play MANY of them - with the right codecs installed.
[05:49] <Jamminpotato> jazzrocker, i jsut mounted it
[05:49] <teicah> unig * ladydoor nthdegree
[05:49] <eric__> visik7: How'd I do that?
[05:49] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: which in most cases hopefully shouldn't be an issue. i didn't let it overwrite mine.
[05:49] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, if your dog runs into your computer at high speed while you were copying a 3G file
[05:49] <jazzrocker> ----^ happened to me
[05:49] <visik7> eric__: download gparted
[05:49] <nathanael> eric_: You can install the other distros one at a time, and have them chop the HDD into partitions: One swap space, and at least a root (/) partition for each of the distros you want.
[05:49] <JamieBE> erUSUL: Can i clear this folder?
[05:49] <f1assistance> eric__:  thx
[05:49] <teicah> oops
[05:50] <erUSUL> JamieBE: fsck is the program that checks the fs for errors
[05:50] <MattRhodes> ladydoor: okay, thanks for the help again :)
[05:50] <JamieBE> I am not missing any files to my knowledge
[05:50] <erUSUL> JamieBE: does it have files inside?
[05:50] <f1assistance> r_Willis: and where do I get the right codecs?
[05:50] <ladydoor> MattRhodes: glad to help!
[05:50] <eric__> flassistance: I picked that up from a couple of good Linux podcasts.
[05:50] <ShoeUnited> GameOver69:  That's fine, I'm still on windows waiting for ubuntu to install but on the one that says: javascript.enable   the last column should say true
[05:50] <nathanael> But have each one after the first install the boot loader in their root partition, not the MBR
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> f1assistance,  thats a Faq! :P
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> !w32codecs
[05:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:50] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, during the course of normal usage files and information about them can become skewed
[05:50] <visik7> eric__: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:50] <MrFlint> could it be some sort of incompatible hardware on my part?
[05:50] <Jamminpotato> ok...i'll try it,, though its a brand new partition just mounted
[05:50] <JamieBE> erUSUL: It has lots inside, mostly just PNGs of window captures for some reason?
[05:51] <visik7> eric__: boot it, and resize the partition
[05:51] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, yes it does
[05:51] <f1assistance> Dr_Willis: i'll look for them, thx
[05:51] <nathanael> Then make an entry in your first distro's /boot/grub/menu.lst poitning to the other distros
[05:51] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, does it have a filesystem on it?
[05:51] <visik7> eric__: you have ext3 fs or what ?
[05:51] <Jamminpotato> and ubuntu says root can right too it jut nto normal users...what if i add uid="my user id" to the fstab?
[05:51] <eric__> visik7: Will it preserve my data?
[05:51] <Jamminpotato> jazzrocker, yea its ext2
[05:51] <ShoeUnited> k.. lol let's see.
[05:51] <visik7> eric__: should
[05:51] <eric__> visik7: I'm pretty sure it's ext3.  It's been a while since I set it up.
[05:51] <visik7> eric__: it had preserve mine
[05:51] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, no, try fmask and dmask
[05:51] <erUSUL> JamieBE: ??!! it is weird usually it is empty unless you have problems with the filesystem
[05:51] <nathanael> Anyone have a GOOD link to XGL on Ubuntu using Nvidia?
[05:51] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, also try adding the 'user' option to fstab
[05:52] <erUSUL> !info wine
[05:52] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[05:52] <Jamminpotato> k
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> nathanael,  i think its best to leave it alone for now. :P
[05:52] <eric__> visik7: So I use gparted to make my partition smaller, then let the installers for OpenSUSE and Freespire use the remaining space, assuming their installers will play nice with ubuntu?
[05:52] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, user,fmask=644,dmask=755
[05:52] <ETronik> Whats the status on USB with Dapper ?? has it been fixed ??
[05:52] <ladydoor> Jamminpotato: also, in the file /etc/groups, add yourself to the group "users"
[05:52] <nathanael> Well ,gee thanks doc.
[05:52] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, noauto,user,fmask=644,dmask=755
[05:52] <Jamminpotato> what do fmask and dmask do?
[05:52] <gan|y|med> hi
[05:52] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited,
[05:52] <visik7> nathanael: is on the wiki
[05:52] <GameOver69> i think its somethin with the plugin
[05:52] <JamieBE> I did have a while back - But I followed the fix all thing it asked me to before loading X and fixed the filesystem
[05:52] <gan|y|med> my xv support for the fglrx driver broke when i upgraded to version 8.28. the config dialogue for dual head also disappeared. downgrading to 8.25 still produces the same problem. everytime i try to play a video with the xvideo plugin the x server crashes
[05:52] <linux__alien> could some one anwer my question please?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  thats a BIG assumption.   you better do some reading/learning on grub  befor hand.
[05:52] <GameOver69> when i type in about:plugins... there is nothing there on java
[05:52] <gan|y|med> any ideas?
[05:52] <nathanael> ok
[05:52] <ShoeUnited> GameOver69: javascript.options.strict .... false
[05:53] <ShoeUnited> Oh.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  id bet their installers will install grub autmaticially to the mbr of hda1, and not even bother to ask.
[05:53] <ShoeUnited> ok
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  and thus wipe out the ubuntu grub
[05:53] <erUSUL> JamieBE: well if you do not need those files you can rm them without problems
[05:53] <ShoeUnited> GameOver69: I'll look for the page that sets up the java plugin
[05:53] <JamieBE> Sweet
[05:53] <eric__> Dr_WIllis: OK - then how do I ever get back to ubuntu?
[05:53] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, yep its false
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  thats where youlearn how to  fix grub and set it up properly
[05:54] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, ok
[05:54] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, read man umask
[05:54] <eric__> Dr_Willis: Where do I go to learn that?
[05:54] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, it's the same thing but global
[05:54] <Jamminpotato> ok
[05:54] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, fmask = file dmask = directory
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  grub is very well documented on the web and its own home page has detailed docs..
[05:54] <eric__> Dr_Willis: So I go ahead and install those other distros and go back and fix grub?
[05:54] <ShoeUnited> GameOver69:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/616
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  #1 thing to rember about grub - is that it starts counting the Drives at 0. not 1 :P
[05:55] <Jamminpotato> jazzrocker, i just opened etc/groups and its blank ....?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  id read up on grub first. :P but you can do what you want. Freespire is not worth messing with. I can tell you that much.
[05:55] <gan|y|med> is there any reason why the x server should crash when videos are played?
[05:55] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, what are you doing with /etc/groups ?
[05:55] <Jamminpotato> you said to add my uid to the group user?
[05:55] <eric__> Dr_WIllis: I remember reading on grub a while back and the instructions are ... long.  Is there a FAQ or something that would walk me through this? I have to imagine this is a fairly common problem.
[05:55] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, when
[05:55] <Jamminpotato> ladydoor, did
[05:55] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, when did i say that? where?
[05:55] <Jamminpotato> not you
[05:55] <jazzrocker> ok
[05:56] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, just user mount it with fmask and dmask
[05:56] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, that's what you want
[05:56] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, then it's yours
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  what you are doing is a rather complex thing.. and  there are all sorts of pitfalls.. and grub is worth learning and learning well.   it all depends on how you set up the drives as well. Simpliest would be to have a spare hard drive for each disrto.
[05:56] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, ive been there and did that
[05:56] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: when i added "users" to a line in /etc/fstab, it didn't do anything until i added myself to the group "users"...so i thought it was necessary. sorry
[05:56] <JamieBE> That's cleared some space, thank you. It would also appear that my apt folder is quite large
[05:56] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, that's because it's "user" not "users"
[05:57] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: that was a type
[05:57] <iliketoprogram> hiya!  I'm trying to use gparted to change my partition tables a bit.  it's so far so good, but i have a problem.  i have an extended partition at the end of my disk.  the first 700M is my swap, the last 7GB is mounted as /.  there is an 8GB chunk between these two partitions, but i can not resize my ext3 (/) drive!  it lets me resize swap, and format the 'middle space' but won't let me make my ext3 larger by extending
[05:57] <iliketoprogram>  the leading (left hand side) edge of the partition!  (yes, i'm doing this from live cd and the discs are unmounted/inactive).   any suggestions on how to fix this?  i considered copying the / partition to the beginning of this free space, then going back and deleting the original and resizing the new one to cover allof the free space but i suspect that my computer won't boot anymore if i do that lol
[05:57] <jazzrocker> k
[05:57] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: typo
[05:57] <ShoeUnited> GameOver69: Have you restarted the firefox browser?
[05:57] <Jamminpotato> jazzrocker, /dev/sda6	/mnt/common2	ext2	user,noauto,fmask=644, dmask=755	0	0 is that about what the line should look like in fstab?
[05:57] <jazzrocker> users are people on drugs, user is an account on a *nix system :P
[05:57] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, pretty much yeah
[05:57] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, of course
[05:57] <eric__> Dr_Willis: So what do folk do who want to dual boot with Windows? Or those macs who want OS X, ubuntu and Windoze?  (Though mac is a special case).  I imagine people must want to do this a lot.
[05:57] <GameOver69> after it crashes i have no choice
[05:57] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: lol. yeah, user is what's in my fstab
[05:57] <Jamminpotato> cause its telling me that line is bad when i try to mount
[05:58] <saara> how do i set locale on my computer
[05:58] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, then just mount /dev/sda6 should work
[05:58] <iliketoprogram> any idea why it's not giving me the option to resize the ext3?
[05:58] <erUSUL> saara: System>Admin>Language support
[05:58] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, mount reads from fstab iirc
[05:58] <wickers> After a fresh install of 6.06.1... OOo has broken spell checking :(
[05:58] <ShoeUnited> GameOver69: Tried this?  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[05:58] <wickers> Anyone else have that problem? OOo with broken spell checking?
[05:59] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, yep
[05:59] <Jamminpotato> jazzrocker, when i do sudo mount /dev/sda6 it says it cant find  it in fstab and that line 8 of fstab is bad
[05:59] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, then it's bad and you did something wrong
[05:59] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, man fstab
[06:00] <Jamminpotato> am i supposed to ad my self to user? in /etc/group
[06:01] <saara> how do i set locale of my computer?
[06:01] <jazzrocker> Jamminpotato, try it if you like: adduser jamminpotato somegroup
[06:01] <erUSUL> Jamminpotato: usa System>Admin>users...
[06:01] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, coudl it have to do with my firefox not being installed from the repos
[06:01] <h4ch3r> adobe flash 9.0 for linux?
[06:01] <vorbote> saara: edit /etc/environment
[06:01] <theneb> h4ce3r, good joke ;)
[06:01] <saara> thanks, vorbote!
[06:01] <theneb> h4ce3r, the best workaround is installing firefox under wine
[06:02] <h4ch3r> humm
[06:02] <h4ch3r> huh
[06:02] <theneb> Otherwise flash 9 isn't possible, it works quite well
[06:02] <h4ch3r> flash 9 for linux man?
[06:02] <ben> Hi there!
[06:02] <Jamminpotato> hey ben
[06:02] <ben> Anyone availible to help me out with something!
[06:02] <ben> That answers my Question :D
[06:02] <Jamminpotato> ask your question im sure someone can
[06:02] <wickers> nevermind, there's no spell checking for canadian english.
[06:03] <rsk> h4ch3r, there is no flash 9 for linux
[06:03] <GameOver69> ShoeUnited, it just doesnt want to work for my firefox
[06:03] <ben> Ok, I'm trying to install a program called gyach, but for some reason, it keeps spitting errors.
[06:03] <eric__> If anybody cares, there's a CD with Linux rescue tools here: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[06:03] <h4ch3r> rsa, dawn
[06:03] <h4ch3r> rsa, sorry
[06:03] <h4ch3r> rsk, dawn
[06:03] <h4ch3r> :(
[06:03] <h4ch3r> why?
[06:04] <rsk> adbode dosent care abaut linux
[06:04] <ladydoor> ben: what errors?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  the default installs and grub setup work fine with just linux and windows.. the prolem you are going to have is that EACH disrto will want to do things its own way.
[06:04] <ben> one second, I will paste them
[06:04] <eric__> Dr_Willis: Right.
[06:04] <ladydoor> !tell ben about anyone
[06:04] <ladydoor> !anyone
[06:04] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:05] <eric__> Dr_WIllis: What I'm after is that when you boot up, you enter a number to choose which OS you want, else it defaults to the default OS (ubuntu, in this case).
[06:05] <ladydoor> ben: (it's not a bad thing, just for future reference)
[06:05] <ben> I ask that to see if a channel is active, Meaning, saving myself typing out my problem, if no one is here to see it. 8) I KNOW you guys can help, but are you here XD
[06:05] <ladydoor> ben: lol. good point
[06:05] <ben> 8_
[06:05] <ben> 8)
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  ubuntu annoys me because it tries to hide a lot of the details in grub. :P     You will end up with a grub menu that shows ALL the os's on your machine.. you just select the one to boot to. Its not hard to do.. just lots of things to learn about to get it going.
[06:06] <Jamminpotato> there is always someone helpful in #ubuntu
[06:06] <ladydoor> Jamminpotato: here, here!
[06:06] <eric__> Dr_Willis: Maybe this? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  OR like on this pc i have.. i can make each disrto on its own HD. and put its own mbr on that hd.. then i can pick what HD to boot from the bios menus
[06:06] <Jamminpotato> if it wasnt for this irc chanel i would have become very frustrated and gone back to winXP already
[06:06] <earth|afk> is there any program like daemon tools for ubuntu that would mount me any kind of cd/dvd images ?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  when it comes to grub.. you cant read tooo much. :P its an amazing tool.
[06:07] <earth|afk> *not only iso
[06:07] <theneb> gisomount earth
[06:07] <Sakireth> I wish Ubuntu wasn't so slow on my pc.. ubuntu is ideal, but on this PC, it is really slow.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> eric__,  plus you will also have to learn how each disrto handles grub and get its boot/grub menu infro from each disrto.. and freespire is WEIRD in that area.
[06:07] <earth|afk> Sakireth what are your pc specs?
[06:07] <Jamminpotato> Sakireth, are you using gnome?
[06:07] <eric__> Dr_Willis: I'd like to find "Grub for nonmajors", if there is such a thing.
[06:07] <Sakireth> The liveCD and all stuff like that, and even when it is installed, still are slow.
[06:07] <Jamminpotato> you could try switching to fluxbox or xfce
[06:07] <ladydoor> Sakireth: have you considered using xubuntu?
[06:08] <earth|afk> and btw where could i find the livecd ? :)
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> eric__,   learn grub.. dont expect it to be a  trivial type some random command and it works kind of thing.. learn the ins and outs of it.
[06:08] <erUSUL> earth|afk: is the desktop cd
[06:08] <ladydoor> earth|afk: if you go to the ubuntu website, they'll have links
[06:08] <Jamminpotato> earth|afk, the live cd ion the install
[06:08] <mrDaniel> I am not sure if this is a bug: under windows I can adjust the sound-volumen with Fn+left (turn down) and Fn+right (louder). Under ubuntu this shourtcuts work too (what's great), but the are 'linked' with the wrong volume-control (Headphones). do anyone know who set this 'link' to another volume-control (PCM) ???
[06:08] <ben> Where should I paste the error message? here in main chat?
[06:08] <Sakireth> I'm in Gentoo now for it's speed. @earth|afk: Processor - AMD Athlon XP 2600+; Video card: ATI Radeon 9600 XT; Jamminpotato: I'm on gentoo right now. Openbox. ladydoor: No, but it seems nice.
[06:08] <Jimmey> I get this error when trying to connect to an NFS server: "mount server:sharepoint failed, reason given by server: Permission denied"
[06:08] <earth|afk> hm
[06:08] <ShoeUnited> I got a 2ghz 512 ram 128 mb video card  Gnome too heavy for it?
[06:09] <eyequeue> Sakireth, the livecd is by definituib slow, try it installed for a more realistic picture
[06:09] <bignose_> so , mp3's won't play out my laptop speakers, but sounds from skype will.
[06:09] <Sakireth> eyequeue: Even installed, it is slow on this PC.
[06:09] <kenny> ShoeUnited, no should zork
[06:09] <jbroome> !w32codec
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <Sakireth> eyequeue: It gives me a bloated feeling.
[06:09] <kenny> ShoeUnited, no should work
[06:09] <eyequeue> !paste > ben
[06:09] <jbroome> !w32codecs
[06:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:09] <Jimmey> bignose_, what player are you using?
[06:09] <Jamminpotato> Sakireth, xubuntu is quite nice, and lightwieght, its what i use and i have a similar layout as you
[06:09] <ben> I run Ubuntu Breezy Badger on my pIII 550mhz box with 120MBs ram.
[06:09] <ShoeUnited> kenny: ty
[06:09] <bignose_> Jimmey: rhythmbox.
[06:09] <ladydoor> !paste
[06:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:09] <Jimmey> bignose_, have you installed the codecs?
[06:09] <kenny> ShoeUnited, np
[06:09] <Jimmey> !mp3
[06:09] <Sakireth> Jamminpotato: Yeah. gentoo is really advanced which is not nice at all for real-life applications.
[06:09] <bignose_> Jimmey: i know mp3 works, because it plays thru my usb headset just fine.
[06:10] <Jimmey> bignose_, oh.