[05:23] <zul> BenC, awake?
[05:23] <ajmitch> hi zul
[05:23] <zul> hey ajmitch
[05:25] <BenC> zul: yeah
[05:27] <zul> BenC: in my debian/build directory everytime i run make-kpkg build kernel-package wants to run minimal target, and i dont know why that is
[05:28] <zul> i have the changelog control copyright and offical but it seems to be ignoring them
[05:29] <zul> BenC: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18565
[05:38] <BenC> minimal target?
[05:40] <zul> yeah
[05:40] <zul> is there a way to override it?
[05:45] <BenC> no idea
[05:46] <BenC> did you copy linux-source-2.6.17 build?
[05:47] <BenC> from what I can tell you should be able to copy that and ditch d-i stuff, and just have debian/config/{amd64,i386}/config{,.xen{u,0}}
[05:48] <zul> i have like config.686 the like
[06:05] <zul> i think i might have got it
[06:06] <zul> xen is a subarch of x86 now
[06:06] <zul> so the archmap is incorrect..so im just going to fiddle around with this a bit more
[06:12] <BenC> update to latest debian/* stuff from linux-source
[06:12] <BenC> I redid a lot of shit to accomodate the new kernel-package
[06:14] <zul> like what?
[06:16] <BenC> like the debian/config/archmap stuff
[06:16] <BenC> and how it's used in the debian/rules file and in post-install
[06:17] <zul> ah
[06:18] <zul> well ill have at it first thing in the morning im going to bed...thanks for the help
[06:20] <BenC> np, good night
[06:20] <zul> good luck in the tournament if i dont talk to you
[06:20] <BenC> thanks
[03:12] <Tonio_> hi everyone
[03:12] <Tonio_> I'm having a weird issue building kdebase today
[03:13] <Tonio_> here it is : /usr/include/linux/joystick.h:131: error: '__s64' does not name a type
[03:13] <Tonio_> the same package did fail 2 days ago since riddell did his last upload on 07/20...
[03:14] <Tonio_> ajmitch: okay let's report a launchpad bug since nobody will read this :)
[04:36] <BenC> bah, stupid kdebase bug is not a bug in linux-kernel-headers
[09:29] <jwest-> hi
[11:15] <jwest-> ok hi again after a few hrs
[11:15] <jwest-> :D


[01:20] <tech1> anyone know how to make custom xfce appearance themes? i found them in /usr/share/themes and copied one of the theme folders to make my own but it isnt showing up in my theme chooser... some of the other themes in that folder dont show up either... so there must be some other kind of config im missing
[01:22] <tech1> i could try to edit the original theme files. i can see simple #ffffff, so i know what id need to do... i just dont want to tamper them if i can make my own
[01:34] <n2diy> what all do I need to watch youtube? I installed restricted extras, but I'm still getting missing plug in messages?
[01:55] <tech1> AHA. i got it to work
[02:00] <k_sze> Is there any Internet Gateway Device client/browser for Xubuntu? e.g. for Mac OS X, there is an application called "Port Map" (http://www.codingmonkeys.de/portmap/), Windows also has a built-in utility to map ports by UPnP on capable routers.
[02:01] <k_sze> (and I would prefer a GUI application, if possible)
[12:02] <xubuntu277> Hi all. Some help needed with touchpad frozen on a HP DM1-4136SF. anybody aware of such an issue ?
[12:16] <TheSheep> "frozen"?
[12:17] <TheSheep> does that mean it used to work but stopped?
[12:20] <xubuntu277> yes. mouse and keyboard ok then randomly (of course) no way to have any key working nor the cursor moving. Something my external USB mouse works, sometimes not. no dmesg or syslog info ...
[12:24] <TheSheep> xubuntu277: what makes you think the touchpad is the problem?
[12:27] <xubuntu343> any chance to intall alternate xubunto on a pentium 3 laptop wich 128mb?
[12:29] <xubuntu277> @TheSheep: Well, I'm trying to know why it freezes :) It's a dual boot netbook running Win7 without no touchpad/keyb problem. It only happens with xubuntu.
[12:29] <TheSheep> xubuntu277: you need more ram
[12:29] <xubuntu343> to be more precise, its a pentium III with 746 MHz and 256 MB of RAM..will chorme
[12:29] <xubuntu343> ..will chrome or mozilla work?..its for my mother
[12:29] <xubuntu343> :)
[12:30] <TheSheep> xubuntu277: 256MB may be enough, but it will be slow
[12:30] <TheSheep> xubuntu277: especially web browsers use a lot of ram
[12:30] <xubuntu343> i know and she is a youtube.com junky
[12:30] <xubuntu343> :)
[12:31] <TheSheep> you will need to try, no promises
[12:33] <mips1911> xubuntu343, chrome or firefox wont work. I tried them on a lubuntu setup with P4 celeron 128MB ram. It will load and then the page file will start going mad and the machine essentially locks up. Try and upgrade the ram to 512MB-1GB
[12:34] <mips1911> xubuntu343, you can forget about youtube as well, flash will kill it.
[12:35] <astraljava> I hear there's an HTML5 version for the bleeding edge testers.
[12:36] <Sysi> killer even if not serial one
[12:37] <Sysi> I'm talking sbout html5
[12:43] <xubuntu343> ok, thanks for your help!
[12:51] <dimgl> gm everyone
[13:07] <xubuntu277> Touchpad+keyboard frozen again. Suspending the computer on & off made both work again ...
[13:14] <xubuntu173> Hi
[13:41] <dimgl> anyone know how to remove the text background on the desktop?
[13:52] <DominicLow> you mean the icon texts or something?
[13:55] <holstein> i can remember going around and renaming all my icons to " " .. maybe http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/preferences and setting the font size to 0 ?
[13:55] <DominicLow> anyone ever tried this for icon text background? http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/howto-remove-the-borders-of-your-desktop-icon-text/
[14:02] <mips1911> dimgl, DominicLow, holstein - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132505/  paste that to a file /home/<username>/.gtkrc-2.0.mine
[14:03] <mips1911> This works http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/howto-remove-the-borders-of-your-desktop-icon-text/
[15:29] <Robertc1985> anyone can help me set up grub to load my windows 7?
[16:34] <xubuntu225> парам пам пам
[16:36] <shpngld> hello and good afternoon, I have a BIG problem afetr installing newer drivers fr nvidia mx420 under xubunti 11.04 I cant start my GUI!
[16:36] <shpngld> the only thing I  see after restarting the pc is black background with white XUBUBTU
[16:36] <shpngld> I dont know what to do please help!
[16:36] <shpngld> I cant start even a terminal window
[16:36] <holstein> shpngld: i would probably remove them, and try a differnt driver.. might also want to consider looking to see if there is a custom xorg.conf in place, and editing it, or making a new one
[16:37] <shpngld> i cant open a terminal
[16:37] <holstein> shpngld: you can get to tty likely by using control+alt+F2
[16:37] <shpngld> nothing happens
[16:38] <shpngld> on ctrl alt del it responds but not on anythin else
[16:38] <shpngld> please help
[16:38] <holstein> shpngld: then, you might want to try going in from a live CD, and seeing what, if any, xorg.conf is in place... i sometimes use a live CD like puppy or knoppix, and grab the xorg.conf and put it in place, and specify a driver... vesa driver should boot
[16:38] <shpngld> ok now I have to try to find a cd
[16:39] <holstein> shpngld: you should be able to use whatever CD you loaded the os with
[16:39] <holstein> shpngld: you can also try the recover kernel image
[16:39] <holstein> shpngld: whtn booting, right after anything from the bios, hit shift... you should see the kernel image you are using, and the recovery image... from there, you can try some options for recovery
[16:42] <shpngld> I have xubuntu 10.04
[16:42] <shpngld> what are the steps I have to follow
[16:42] <shpngld> holstein Thyanks for everything!
[16:42] <holstein> shpngld: i would boot the machine... right after the bios, hit shift.. you should see a list of kernel images
[16:42] <shpngld> foud 11.04
[16:42] <holstein> the 2nd one should be recovery
[16:43] <holstein> i would try that first... then, go in with a live cd.. then try a custome xorg.conf.. then consider just upgrading to 12.04
[16:45] <shpngld> it just started the cd with options to try or install
[16:45] <holstein> shpngld: it? the live CD?
[16:45] <shpngld> yes
[16:46] <holstein> shpngld: you enter the recover kernel from your installation... you boot the install.. the normal install, no live cd... hit shift, and choose the recovery image
[16:47] <shpngld> I cant get in any terminal from the hdd install
[16:47] <shpngld> ctr=alt= anything dont work
[16:47] <shpngld> only for restart
[16:48] <shpngld> it just stays a black screeen w/ xubuntu title
[16:48] <shpngld> thats all from my orig install
[16:48] <shpngld> there is no GRUB menu or anythun
[16:49] <shpngld> can i remove the new drivers I installed through live cd
[16:52] <shpngld> Ok it seems like today i will be on WinXP....tomorrow I will buy a new CD and burn a Linux distrib just o repair the Video driver problem
[16:52] <shpngld> holstein: Can i have a link to download a xubuntu distrib that will do the wor?
[16:52] <shpngld> k*
[16:54] <holstein> shpngld: when booting, you ned to hit shift to see the grub list
[16:54] <holstein> need*
[16:54] <holstein> shpngld: *any* live CD will "do the work"
[16:55] <holstein> theres not a live CD that will just magically make your machine boot, as the hardware is specific to your case
[16:55] <holstein> creating that disc, though possible, would only benifit you in this one case, so its not going to exist
[16:58] <shpngld> holstein: nothing really happende
[16:59] <shpngld> blinkin underscore in left upper corner and nothing
[16:59] <shpngld> black screen
[16:59] <shpngld> Im waitin and still nothin
[16:59] <holstein> shpngld: you should see a grub list
[16:59] <holstein> there will be no waiting.. start tapping shift, right when the machine comes back on... from a powered down state
[17:00] <shpngld> it said grub loadin
[17:01] <shpngld> now black screen with white xubuntu title
[17:01] <holstein> shpngld: thats after the kernel
[17:02] <holstein> shpngld: before that you should see a list, if you choose nothing, it will boot the first thing
[17:02] <shpngld> OK
[17:02] <holstein> you want to tap shift.. then navigate to "recovery" with the down arrow
[17:02] <shpngld> there is a list
[17:02] <shpngld> wow
[17:02] <shpngld> Ubuntu with linux 2 6 30 15
[17:03] <holstein> shpngld: the 2nd one should be recovery.. i literally just poke around in there each time and try things til it works
[17:03] <shpngld> same w/ recovrey mode
[17:03] <holstein> shpngld: there is a "restore graphics" as far as i remember
[17:03] <shpngld> so i choose recovrey?
[17:03] <holstein> shpngld: yes, there will be recovery options under the recovery mode, the 2nd one in the list
[17:03] <shpngld> tryin
[17:04] <shpngld> Loadin *&&&&@ generic
[17:04] <shpngld> initial ramdisk
[17:04] <shpngld> therre sppeared a list
[17:05] <shpngld> repair brk pakages, Run in failsafe graphic mode,  reboot filesys check, update grub drop to rootshell prompt w\ netw drop to shell
[17:06] <shpngld> Failsafe Graphic mode?
[17:06] <holstein> shpngld: well, youy are having a graphics issue, correct? so that would be a good first try
[17:06] <holstein> rootshell promt will be handy too if you want to apt-get remove the driver you installed
[17:06] <shpngld> now I have to reconfigure graphics?
[17:07] <holstein> shpngld: you dont have to do anything... you can try to repair your system if you want
[17:07] <shpngld> thats the idea
[17:07] <holstein> shpngld: you should be able to get to the GUI and remove the driver
[17:07] <shpngld> I just want to remove the new and leave the old exp graphic drv
[17:08] <holstein> shpngld: sounds like a good place to start...
[17:09] <shpngld> Im startin the session in low graphics so i can get to the menu (additional drivers)
[17:10] <shpngld> well in aditional drivers there is only one driver listed and it is NVIDIA Accelarated graphics driver (version current)
[17:10] <shpngld> the experimental one (which was workin OK) is not here
[17:11] <holstein> shpngld: i would remove all proprietary drivers, and get my system booting, if it were me
[17:11] <holstein> OR, i would just backup my files, and take this time to upgrade to 12.04
[17:12] <shpngld> No prop drivers ate used on this system
[17:12] <shpngld> it says
[17:12] <shpngld> MY pc is pretty old
[17:12] <shpngld> thats why i avoid upg do newer vers
[17:13] <shpngld> thats the only reason
[17:13] <holstein> shpngld: they wont be "used" now... you are in safe gaphics mode... i would look in the package manager, or try the wiki pages for how to purge whatever driver you installed
[17:14] <holstein> shpngld: you can always try the 12.04 version live and see how it works with your hardware... sometimes, its better to upgrade, and sometimes not, but 10.04 is approaching EOL regardless
[17:14] <shpngld> 11.04 is mine
[17:14] <shpngld> 10.04 was on the cd
[17:15] <shpngld> ok so from synaptic package manager I have to find the last driver i installed right?
[17:15] <holstein> so, you just have a few more months then
[17:16] <holstein> shpngld: you dont have to do anything... i would use the package manager of my choice to remove the driver that is causing the system not to boot
[17:16] <shpngld> I will try now
[17:17] <shpngld> good thing is everything is workin for now
[17:17] <shpngld> I thought that the newer drv will work better than the experimental one
[17:17] <shpngld> it is from june last year for nvidia mx 420 (imagine how old hardware it isw)
[17:18] <holstein> well, if it aint broke... or, assume nothing, which ever helpful tip you can learn from this event
[17:18] <xubuntu716> hey
[17:19] <xubuntu716> can some1 plz exlain how to know if i shod get 32bit or 64bit
[17:19] <holstein> xubuntu716: i would say, if you dont already know, just get 32
[17:20] <xubuntu716> ok thx
[17:20] <holstein> when you neeed 64, you'll know.. though, if the hardware supports 64, theres not really any "deal breakers" anymore
[17:24] <shpngld> holstein: I dont know how is the best way to say THANK You for your support and help, but i really mean it. I ll do some stuff around the house and then will try to fix the problem
[17:24] <shpngld> hopefully everything should be ok and there will be no need to come here again for help...soon
[17:24] <holstein> shpngld: sure... anytime! let us know if you need anything more :)
[17:25] <shpngld> thank you! thanks alot XUBUNTU IRC crew
[19:35] <tech1_> this is ridiculous
[19:36] <tech1_> half the time i press the play/pause button on vlc player, xfce moves the window off the screen or into a different workspace
[19:37] <aquix> hmm, I have problems with vlc too, distorted sound. I just got gnome-mplayer instead
[19:38] <tech1_> ill try other players. but i think it did this with other program windows too
[19:38] <Unit193> tech1_: Default install?  What version?
[19:38] <tech1_> ubuntustudio(xfce4.8 distributed by xubuntu)
[19:39] <Unit193> Bug 1001936 shouldn't hit it as it's Qt, but I use vlc (was a second ago) with no issues like that.
[19:39] <aquix> you might want to get the 4.10 ppa since your having a few issues?
[19:39] <tech1_> ah its a known bug. ill look it up thanks
[20:07] <xubuntu148> Hello,  how  can I execute a java application in Xubuntu?
[20:12] <TheSheep> xubuntu148: double click on it
[20:12] <xubuntu148> then i get a message: the java file is net executeable
[20:12] <TheSheep> xubuntu148: make it executable first
[20:12] <xubuntu148> on ubuntu i could change the access rules
[20:13] <Unit193> Right click > Properties
[20:13] <xubuntu148> but on xubutun there is no options
[20:13] <xubuntu148> properies are open
[20:14] <TheSheep> xubuntu148: or you can just do 'chmod +x yourfilename' from terminal
[20:15] <xubuntu148> chmod +x minecraft.jar ?the file is on my deswktop
[20:16] <xubuntu148> he says me no file available
[20:17] <TheSheep> xubuntu148: open your terminal in the same directory
[20:17] <TheSheep> xubuntu148: there is an option for that on right click
[20:19] <xubuntu148> are the commnds for linux the same as for windows?
[20:20] <aquix> nope :)
[20:20] <aquix> their better
[20:20] <xubuntu148> :D mhm that would be to easy
[20:21] <xubuntu148> but no I have execute the file but nothing happens
[20:21] <xubuntu148> *now
[20:29] <xubuntu148> Thanks for help. Bye
[21:09] <xubuntu901> hello
[21:09] <xubuntu901> I have a powerpc g4, what is the best version of xubuntu (or any linux distro) should I install
[21:14] <Sysi> I doubt it has enough ram for anything useful
[22:26] <tech1> i just acciedntly moved a file somewhere while in my file explorer... it isnt in trash, isnt in any of the subfolders of the folder i was browsing in, or it's parent folder.... and find . -mtime -1     dosnt show it either...   trying to grep it but it hasnt got a unique name so searching through lots of stuff.... any other ideas where it could have gone?
[22:29] <aquix> I have done that before :)      found it again using catfish searching the partition
[22:30] <tech1> ill look up catfish. do you remember where you found your file? was it nearby or something
[22:31] <tech1> ahhh damn
[22:31] <tech1> i found it
[22:31] <aquix> yeah, in some folder I had dragged and dropped it to
[22:31] <tech1> its on the desktop
[22:31] <tech1> lol
[22:31] <aquix> hehe
[22:36] <aicasn> out of curiosity.... how many here are running a home server?  ie. a PC that  1) you don't use as a desktop machine, 2) you leave on pretty much 24/7/365, 3) provides service(s) to other computers/gadgets in your home
[22:37] <aicasn> file server, firewall, etc.
[22:37] <aicasn> (not counting branded routers and other commercial devices)
[22:46] <lnostdal> hi, why does xubuntu-desktop _depend_ on tumbler?
[22:46] <lnostdal> do you not know that tumbler is memory leaking crap? ..
[22:47] <lnostdal> make it "recommends", not "depends" ..
[22:47] <aquix> tech1 can I ask why you run ubuntustudio?
[22:47] <lnostdal> x)
[22:47] <tech1> because i produce music
[22:48] <tech1> i believe its pretty much xubuntu + music apps/drivers
[22:48] <aquix> tech1 yeah, but whats the advantage of ubuntustudio over installing the software in xubuntu?
[22:48] <tech1> i dont have to manually install the software :)
[22:48] <aquix> lnostdal   netcom is worse
[22:49] <tech1> which isnt hard. but if thats the only difference. then i might as well pick the one with the software i need
[22:49] <aicasn> tech1, studio? what do you use for your protools replacement?
[22:50] <lnostdal> aquix, ?
[22:50] <aquix> nvm
[22:50] <lnostdal> aquix, ah, yes .. you're from norway ..   this is Chess ..    they all suck
[22:50] <aquix> yup
[22:50] <tech1> i was using reaper on windows. only just installed ubuntustudio on a new pc... so will use ardour and rosegarden probably
[22:51] <lnostdal> aquix, did you know that even Philippines has better mobile broadband than norway? ..   true "Unlimited use" etc.
[22:51] <lnostdal> aquix, 4G in the cities
[22:51] <aquix> I tried ardour but couldn't care enough to get jack working
[22:52] <aicasn> tech1,  hmm. i'll look into those. i need to find something that's compatible with my m-audio hardware via firewire
[22:52] <aquix> lnostdal no communism is good for networking :)
[22:53] <tech1> ardour comes with ubuntustudio, its meant to be great for editing/fx, but lacks midi right now so not good for composing....... for composing/sequencing i heard rosegarden is decent
[22:54] <lnostdal> aquix, ?
[22:54] <aquix> hydrogen for beats isn't that bad
[22:54] <tech1> i havnt even tried the music apps yet. only got this pc the other day and been fiddling with the gui
[22:55] <tech1> now im setting up programming environment tonight. i only do music on weekends
[22:55] <aicasn> lol. sounds familiar
[22:55] <aquix> tomorrow, sleep


[07:38] <philipacamaniac> Mars_^: get the debian source - "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ddrmat-source"
[07:39] <philipacamaniac> it has a readme
[07:41] <spiral> hi
[07:41] <Mars_^> how can i get info what version of kernel is mine?
[07:44] <Mars_^> but how can i know which version of kernel i have? i need it to ask somweone what to do with another thing
[07:46] <philipacamaniac> Mars_^: "uname -r"
[07:49] <p> < nub to irc, lookin for channel for help with setting up CS-Server...
[07:49] <p> anyone have any suggestions?
[07:50] <slicslak> according to http://ubuntuguide.org/ the java plugin is installed with the package sun-j2re1.5.  i can't find ANY sun java packages.  here's my apt-get sources: http://pastebin.com/386366
[07:51] <apokryphos> slicslak: giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs (for hoary)
[07:53] <slicslak> apokryphos, thanks
[07:54] <elcuco> hi, whats the name of the package to install the build esentials...?
[07:55] <apokryphos> build-essential
[07:58] <elcuco> :)
[07:59] <apokryphos> Riddell: rubberband is pretty perfect with better graphics cards, btw
[08:00] <slicslak> i downloaded the .deb, but i can't seem to find the apt-get option that specifies a file to use.
[08:00] <apokryphos> slicslak: dpkg -i <somepack>.deb
[08:01] <slicslak> right.  ok thanks.
[08:26] <PhoenixByrd> all ur settings get saved if u start kde with an empty session?
[08:44] <TokenBad> in kontact how can I have it auto check the email every like 5 mins
[08:50] <Xorlev> Need a little help with Kubuntu Breezy...I just installed it clean from the Kubuntu Breezy Preview disk onto a separate partition than my normal system. It seems to work perfectly other than one thing: the mouse is messed up. The mouse moves, the programs work, but unable to click or hover over anything. I can select UI elements with my keyboard and use them, but the mouse refuses to work correctly. Once when I removed my USB mouse and plugged in a
[08:50] <Xorlev> PS/2 mouse it started working correctly, but then after a reboot it did the same thing with the PS/2 mouse. I also upgraded completely (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade) and the same symptoms before and after.
[08:54] <hussam> I'm having a problem with adept. it crashes after I uninstall a program. I uninstalled synaptic and adept crashed after it finished uninstalling.
[08:58] <TokenBad> in kontact how can I have it auto check the email every like 5 mins
[09:01] <Riddell> KDE 3.4.3 testers wanted  deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde343/ breezy main
[09:01] <SSJ> TokenBad:Settings->Configur KMail->Accounts-> <account you wish to check > -> Modify -> Check Interval
[09:02] <hussam> Riddell: will kde 3.4.3 make breezy?
[09:02] <Riddell> hussam: if you test it yes
[09:04] <hussam> Riddell: ok I'll upgrade to it now.
[09:04] <Riddell> hussam: great
[09:04] <Riddell> it's only arts, kdelibs, kdebase
[09:13] <rikva> I've got a small problem... I did an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy, it deleted kubuntu-desktop. I want to install it now, but it depends on ksysguard, and he doesn't want to install ksysguard
[09:14] <rikva> " Vereisten:ksysguardd (=4:3.4.2-0ubuntu5) maar 4:3.4.91-0ubuntu0hoary1 wordt genstalleerd"
[09:14] <Drakeson> is there anything wrong with the ubuntu server? I cannot access it.
[09:16] <hussam> is there somthing wrong with irc.freenode.net? I keep getting disconnected.
[09:19] <philipacamaniac> me too
[09:21] <DaSkreech> Ahh! What happened to breezy
[09:21] <DaSkreech> It's terrible
[09:22] <SSJ> rikva:Same problem as this guy? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72896
[09:22] <hussam> DaSkreech: what's wrong with it? it's running brilliantly here
[09:23] <DaSkreech> The menus are all cluttered and the Splash screen is gaudy
[09:23] <DaSkreech> it's lost all the Polish and directness of Hoary
[09:23] <philipacamaniac> the menus have the same number of items, if not less
[09:23] <DaSkreech> And whats with the mob of package/update managers?
[09:24] <DaSkreech> I just did an update to Breezy and the menus are huge now :(
[09:24] <philipacamaniac> huge as in using bigger icons?
[09:24] <hussam> DaSkreech: or font?
[09:24] <DaSkreech> Huge as in they go to the bottom of the screen then they have more programs with more entries after that
[09:25] <DaSkreech> You know the more programs item which opens up more menus?
[09:26] <hussam> DaSkreech: More Applications?
[09:26] <hussam> DaSkreech: you can always remove any applications you don't need
[09:26] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah :-)
[09:26] <philipacamaniac> holy crap - that sounds like a standard debian/kde installation
[09:26] <DaSkreech> It does
[09:26] <DaSkreech> I nearly cried
[09:27] <philipacamaniac> my breezy started nice and clean, so you know
[09:27] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[09:27] <DaSkreech> Is Kynaptic still there?
[09:28] <hussam> I'm still happy kde in Breezy seems more stable than hoary.
[09:28] <rikva> SSJ: yepp same problem
[09:28] <philipacamaniac> DaSkreech: Adept replaces Kynaptic
[09:29] <SSJ> rivka:I can't help, I'm afraid, but at least you're not alone =)
[09:29] <DaSkreech> My friend did update his laptop and it's a tad unstable
[09:29] <DaSkreech> His power managment is shot
[09:33] <rikva> SSJ: i've found the solution, I think. If i'm right i'll post it
[09:33] <rikva> The only packet  I miss now is kicker...
[09:33] <SSJ> rikva:Great stuff - well done!
[09:33] <rikva> it conflicts with the file /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/apps/kmenu.png' that is also in kdelibs-data
[09:34] <rikva> first reboot.
[09:35] <philipacamaniac> whoa. I got 3d rendering working on a geforce2 go, but the framerate is horrid.
[09:45] <Xorlev> philipacamaniac: Does the nvidia proprietary drivers cover the GeForce 2 Go?
[09:47] <philipacamaniac> Xorlev: I installed nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:47] <rikva|laptop> SSJ: ok, didn't work, system is borked :(
[09:48] <rikva|laptop> downloading the install torrent now
[09:48] <SSJ> rikva - that's a shame :( I'm sure it will be fixed in time for Breezy, though.
[09:48] <rikva|laptop> I hope so - I can handle it though
[09:58] <cge> Is there some way to get KPDF to shrink a page to fit another paper size for printing?
[10:07] <Kyaneos> hi
[10:16] <MikeStyle> hi guys, im trying to set up my own irc server using UnrealIRCd...but im not sure how to edit the .conf file to my liking...could someone help?
[10:20] <philipacamaniac> MikeStyle: visit<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:35] <DaSkreech> Will I be able to apt-get KDE 3.5?
[10:36] <chavo> DaSkreech, yes
[10:36] <gdh> Yes, when it's available :)
[10:36] <DaSkreech> Cool :)
[10:37] <chavo> you can get the beta now, I believe. I'm running 3.5, but I build myself.
[10:37] <DaSkreech> What was wrong with Kynaptic?
[10:38] <Tm_T> I use beta
[10:38] <Tm_T> chavo: you're running 3.5-svn?
[10:38] <chavo> yes
[10:38] <Tm_T> ok
[10:38] <chavo> It's very nice
[10:38] <Tm_T> hmm hmm
[10:38] <DaSkreech> Wow
[10:38] <Tm_T> beta is too :)
[10:39] <DaSkreech> appeal will be done by March?
[10:44] <elcuco> hi all
[10:45] <DaSkreech> Sorry all is sick today
[10:47] <elcuco> sorry to hear that
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Is there a way to turn on Drag and drop in KDE?
[11:00] <elcuco> i have downloaded kubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso, is there anything i should know about it? something bad?
[11:00] <nalioth> elcuco: nothing at all, have fun
[11:00] <elcuco> i will update as soon as i install, so dont tell me about versions
[11:00] <elcuco> no special bugs?
[11:01] <elcuco> btw, if i md5sum /dev/cdrom, i should get the sane md5sum as the iso right?
[11:04] <DaSkreech> I'd not think so
[11:04] <elcuco> ok, then how can i md5sum the disk...?
[11:04] <elcuco> copying it to the disk...?
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Do you have the iso?
[11:05] <DaSkreech> md5sum the ISO
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Or mount /dev/cdrom to a folder and md5sum the folder
[11:07] <DaSkreech> anything inside of /dev is a special file which describes hardware. Not the data that the hardware is transporting
[11:07] <logikal_> i just woke up
[11:20] <elcuco> i dd'ed it and then md5sum the new iso
[11:20] <elcuco> the md5sum is wrong
[11:21] <fate00> what is a "breezy-release-candidate"?
[11:21] <fate00> it's not a final release is it
[11:22] <fate00> is it going to be buggy or something?
[11:25] <fate00> is everyone gone?
[11:25] <BlackDesert> hi
[11:26] <BlackDesert> RC means use with carefull...
[11:26] <BlackDesert> and backup before using...
[11:26] <hydrogen> I have had no problems with it
[11:27] <TokenBad> how come kopete crashes?
[11:27] <fate00> BlackDesert: what if I install the release candidate now
[11:27] <Tm_T> RC means "we should release this? let's wait one week to make it really sure"
[11:27] <fate00> and I want the final version
[11:27] <fate00> do I have to completely format and reinstall to get it?
[11:27] <Tm_T> no
[11:28] <fate00> how do I upgrade to the final version then?
[11:28] <fate00> without formatting
[11:28] <Tm_T> fate00: just as normally you keep your kubuntu uptodate
[11:28] <fate00> really?
[11:28] <Tm_T> yes
[11:28] <BlackDesert> yes ...
[11:28] <fate00> do you have the RC?
[11:28] <BlackDesert> ;-)
[11:29] <Tm_T> fate00: I've been using breezy now over a week :)
[11:29] <fate00> sorry for all of these questions, I just don't want to mess up my laptop
[11:29] <fate00> I have kubuntu hoary on my desktop
[11:29] <fate00> I just didn't know breezy was stable
[11:29] <BlackDesert> u'll better wait...only 1 week...
[11:29] <Tm_T> BlackDesert: wait what?
[11:30] <fate00> well see, I promised myself I'd install linux on my laptop when breezy came out
[11:30] <BlackDesert> wait the release of stable...13 october
[11:30] <fate00> I can wait a week, but I don't really want to
[11:30] <fate00> it's really difficult going back to Windows
[11:30] <fate00> it's so... inferior
[11:30] <BlackDesert> eheheh :-)
[11:30] <fate00> I just hope they have good laptop support now
[11:30] <BlackDesert> or install hoary and then upgrade....
[11:31] <fate00> last time I installed linux it ate through my battery
[11:31] <Tm_T> fate00: oh, upgrade, breezy is imho better than hoary
[11:31] <fate00> can I burn the iso to a 650 mb cd?
[11:31] <fate00> or do I need one of those 700 mb ones?
[11:31] <fate00> all of my CD-RWs are 650
[11:33] <Tm_T> fate00: eh, you can upgrade your hoary to breezy
[11:33] <Tm_T> that's how I did it
[11:33] <Tm_T> and you don't need any cd:s
[11:41] <fate00> Tm_T: yeah, but I don't have hoary on my laptop
[11:41] <fate00> I have Windows
[11:41] <fate00> my desktop is the one with linux
[11:42] <TokenBad> in kontact under what is outgoing mail?
[11:42] <DaSkreech> In that case upgrade Windows to Hoary then Hoary to breezy :)
[11:42] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: You didn't have larger menus when you finished the upgrade?
[11:43] <TokenBad> I am trying to setup an outgoing mail in kontact
[11:43] <TokenBad> anyone help?
[11:43] <amu> TokenBad: accounts, sending
[11:43] <TokenBad> yeah just found it
[11:44] <BlackDesert> any suggestions about a p2p program (better than amule...)
[11:45] <TokenBad> yeah think I need them
[11:45] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: yes
[11:45] <Chousuke> BlackDesert: bittorrent? :P
[11:45] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: strange, but looks like it's "widened"
[11:45] <TokenBad> does kubuntu have any good games for download?
[11:45] <Chousuke> TokenBad: Frozen Bubble!
[11:46] <Chousuke> The most addictive Free game in the universe.
[11:46] <frank23> i'm upgrading to breezy, I hope apt's incantations work!
[11:46] <Tm_T> no, freeciv2!
[11:46] <TokenBad> get it from kynaptic?
[11:46] <Chousuke> yes.
[11:46] <Chousuke> and hmm.
[11:46] <TokenBad> I don't see it listed
[11:47] <Chousuke> enable universe repos
[11:47] <Chousuke> !repositories
[11:47] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[11:48] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: linespacing is bigger, dunno why
[11:48] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: I meant in terms of the number of programs installed
[11:49] <Tm_T> aah
[11:49] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: not really?
[11:49] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[11:49] <DaSkreech> I have a nuge number of programs now
[11:49] <DaSkreech> huge
[11:49] <Tm_T> I always have =)
[11:49] <DaSkreech> Is there supposed to be a kynaptic entry?
[11:50] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: no, adept
[11:50] <Tm_T> better
[11:50] <DaSkreech> Well I still have kynaptic and all the old stuff
[11:50] <DaSkreech> how do I purge them?
[11:51] <BlackDesert> sudo dpkg --purge [name]
[11:51] <MarcC> alright, I'm here to nag a dev
[11:51] <MarcC> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72896
[11:51] <SpudULike> #ubuntu

[11:56] <TokenBad> in kubuntu where is games listes?
[11:59] <philipacamaniac> who's been using kubuntuforums.net?
[12:02] <tucoz> Hi, I am trying to install kubuntu from a cd. But, something is wrong and after the installer has found the hardware (floppy etc) it tries to mount the cd but fails


[06:53] <SN> SN is Back
[07:00] <dholbach> good morning
[07:04] <sturmflut2> https://uappexplorer.com/app/oxi.rene-so36
[07:04] <sturmflut2> "This app is certainly less harmfull for your ubuntu-phone than the monetarist theory for europe."
[07:04] <sturmflut2> I think I never laughed so hard on a monday morning
[07:14] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[08:31] <sturmflut2> Apps will soon be able to keep the screen on!
[08:31] <sturmflut2> \o/
[08:31] <ogra_> crazy talk !
[08:32] <popey> s/apps/games/ :)
[08:33] <mzanetti> popey, why?
[08:34] <popey> just kidding and thinking of MvM :)
[09:20] <brunch875> Hihi! I'm trying to follow the first code snippet in https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.ToolbarButton/
[09:20] <brunch875> but it doesn't work
[09:20] <brunch875> also, it complains that
[09:20] <brunch875> qml: Page.tools is a deprecated property. Please use Page.head instead.
[09:22] <brunch875> if anyone knows how to put buttons and labels at the top toolbar I'll appreciate it!
[09:40] <nik90> brunch875: use https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.PageHeadConfiguration/
[09:40] <nik90> brunch875: the Page.tools was deprecated for several months...no idea what the hell is it still doing in the 15.04 documentation
[09:46] <brunch875> thanks!
[11:57] <sverzegnassi> popey: ping
[11:59] <popey> hey sverzegnassi
[11:59] <sverzegnassi> popey: o/ which is the launchpad project for reporting a missing package/dependency on devices' images?
[12:00] <popey> sverzegnassi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-meta
[12:02] <sverzegnassi> popey: ok, thanks!
[12:02] <popey> np
[12:49] <mzanetti> sturmflut2, Neverball just got an update locking rotation down :)
[12:50] <mzanetti> sturmflut2, I wonder if you have been involved there
[13:01] <mzanetti> sturmflut2, fyi: https://github.com/pseuudonym404/neverball-touch/issues/9
[13:03] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: It's all popey's fault!
[13:03] <mzanetti> popey, pfff... really... you had to mess that up?
[13:03] <mzanetti> :D
[13:04] <mzanetti> I don't even know what... but blaming popey is always fun
[13:04] <mzanetti> sturmflut2, why?
[13:05] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: https://github.com/pseuudonym404/neverball-touch/issues/8
[13:05] <mzanetti> indeed, popey's fault :D
[13:05] <mzanetti> why would you suggest a landscape app to lock to portrait?
[13:18] <cachio> nik90, hey, I am writting a system test for the clock app and I need to delete the all the alarms that were set. Is any way to do it but not using the ui
[13:19] <cachio> nik90, the autopilot test goes through the ui and delete it
[14:10] <Frantique> hello all
[14:10] <Frantique> I need some help, please
[14:12] <Frantique> is anyone awake?
[14:12] <ogra_> !ask
[14:13] <Frantique> ok, well, I have a published desktop software in developer.ubuntu.com, and the updated package is still waiting for approval since weeks. I really need to publish te updated version.
[14:14] <nik90> cachio: It is not easy deleting the alarms in the backend. If you're using EDS, you need to stop the process and delete its db files. But that would also affect the calendar app.
[14:14] <Frantique> how can I contact someone who can give a review?
[14:14] <nik90> cachio: which is why the current AP tests are resorting to deleting it via the UI (although its not the most reliable)
[14:21] <balloons> davmor2, see Frantique above ^^
[14:22] <cachio> nik90, the test is the test_add_recurring_type_alarm_must_add_to_alarm_list
[14:22] <davmor2> balloons: not me
[14:23] <davmor2> balloons: beuno and his team
[14:23] <davmor2> Frantique: is this a desktop app or a click app
[14:23] <cachio> nik90, which is the process and where are located the db files?
[14:24] <nik90> cachio: one sec, let me get the info
[14:25] <cachio> nik90, tx
[14:25] <Frantique> davmor2: Desktop app
[14:26] <Frantique> the click app is reviewed automatically
[14:26] <davmor2> beuno: ^
[14:27] <Frantique> by the way, the initial review was made by asciigirl.
[14:27] <nik90> cachio: atm EDS handles alarms and its db is located in .local/share/evolution/tasks/*somefoldername/tasks.ics file
[14:28] <nik90> cachio: however the issue is that the *somefoldername is usually random .. not sure how to take that into account while writing the test
[14:28] <nik90> cachio: the process is evolution-calendar-factory afaik
[14:29] <cachio> nik90, thanks! I'll try using glob python module that helps for this scenario
[14:30] <nik90> cachio: cool, np
[14:34]  * popey scrolls back to find out what he's blamed for
[14:34] <popey> downside of having a smart watch is I get notified when I'm blamed for stuff, but don't necessarily know why :)
[14:35] <popey> mzanetti: oh :S
[14:39] <mzanetti> popey, :P
[14:39] <popey> fair point
[14:50] <DF__> hi guys
[14:54] <DF__> can some one tell me how i can have an app that whn offline (not connected to the web) see the things it had in cache but when you're connected to the web it updates the cache??
[14:54] <ogra_> by adding the necessary logic in javascript ... ?
[14:54] <DF__> for example
[14:55] <DF__> you have an app
[14:55] <ogra_> well,  that was more a rhetoric question :)
[14:55] <DF__> and when you're offline you see the last thing you saw when you where online
[14:56] <DF__> but then when you come online you have your cache updated with the new things
[16:09] <dpm> balloons, I'm getting this error trying to run the AP plugin:
[16:09] <dpm> Starting /usr/bin/autopilot3-sandbox-run...
[16:09] <dpm> E: Xephyr executable not found. Please install Xephyr
[16:09] <dpm> any ideas?
[16:11] <dpm> balloons, zbenjamin, seems qtcreator-plugin-autopilot needs a dependency on xserver-xephyr
[16:12] <zbenjamin> dpm: yeah that could be
[16:13] <dpm> zbenjamin, balloons, is there a way to get Qt Creator to choose whether I want the Run button to just run the app or run the tests?
[16:13] <dpm> with the autopilot plugin installed, that is
[16:14] <balloons> dpm, mmm.. it should depend on autopilot.. but autopilot never included xephyr as a hard depends
[16:15] <balloons> dpm, yes use the run selector in the lower left
[16:15] <dpm> balloons, I just did an install of qtcreator-plugin-autopilot, and that didn't install xserver-xephyr
[16:16] <dpm> ah, yeah, it just picked up the AP runconfig, but I can switch between them as usual, neat!
[16:16] <balloons> dpm, correct, it won't, even if the plugin depends on autopilot (which it should)
[16:16] <balloons> autopilot has never had xephyr as a dependency
[16:16] <balloons> so, we could / should add it directly to the package
[16:17] <dpm> yeah, otherwise it's not really a good experience for those who install it
[16:18] <balloons> noted, thanks dpm
[16:18] <balloons> also, should it not default to the AP test runconfig?
[16:19] <zbenjamin> dpm: sure you can switch through the run configs
[16:20] <zbenjamin> balloons: there is no way to default to a RC
[16:20] <dpm> balloons, otherwise looks really nice!
[16:29] <balloons> zbenjamin, thanks
[16:29] <zbenjamin> balloons: the one i released already has the MR btw
[16:32] <balloons> zbenjamin, haha, nice
[19:25] <bzoltan_> vila: ping
[20:54] <SturmFlut> 29 app store updates today o_O
[20:54] <SturmFlut> On a monday!


 valorie: you saved my butt :)
 Needed a working computer, was looking in storage, found the one you gave me!
 Many thanks
[20:18] <valorie> oh that's funny, @tsimonq2


[00:25] <thumper> rockstar: how's it going?
[00:25] <rockstar> It's going.
[00:28] <thumper> rockstar: I'd like to talk to you about claim/reassign review when you have a mental break
[00:28] <rockstar> thumper, okay.
[02:58] <mwhudson> thumper: want to review this bzr-svn-ui branch?
[02:58] <thumper> mwhudson: sure
[03:10] <mwhudson> thumper: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/launchpad/bzr-svn-ui/+merge/15792
[03:10] <mwhudson> thumper: were you waiting on any reviews from me?
[03:10] <thumper> mwhudson: no
[03:10] <thumper> mwhudson: rockstar got to them before you :)
[03:10] <mwhudson> thumper: :-)
[04:41] <mwhudson> thumper: it seems your conditional tag on your approve vote confuses ec2 land :(
[04:50] <jml> sorry.
[04:50] <mwhudson> jml: i think it's thumper's fault really ;-)
[04:50]  * mwhudson eods
[04:51] <jml> mwhudson, ec2 land should probably embrace Postel's Law.
[04:51] <jml> mwhudson, g'night.
[04:59] <thumper> mwhudson: why is it my fault?
[05:02] <mwhudson> thumper: just being silly
[07:08] <jml> hello
[07:08] <jml> simple patch up for review
[07:08] <jml> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/db-revision-bug-487628/+merge/15805
[07:08] <jml> danilos, it fixes a bug you filed, so perhaps you might like to do that.
[07:21] <henninge> jml: did you check that the exception text does not appear in any doctest?
[07:22] <henninge> ... and would need to be adapted there.
[07:28] <jml> henninge, I checked the class name, but not the text itself. I'll check that now.
[07:29] <jml> henninge, all good.
[09:31] <adiroiban> danilos, can you please take a look at this review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~adiroiban/launchpad/bug-406477/+merge/15793 ?
[09:31] <adiroiban> it's about changing launchpad.Admin to launchpad.TranslationsAdmin
[09:31] <adiroiban> but only if you have time
[10:59] <gmb> *sigh*
[11:47] <allenap> gmb: Fancy a js review? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~allenap/launchpad/no-display-name-from-api-bug-491334/+merge/15808
[11:48] <gmb> allenap: Sure.
[11:48] <allenap> gmb: Thank you.
[11:50]  * gmb hates at the whole typeof() != "undefined" bollocks.
[11:50] <gmb> Grr.
[11:53] <gmb> allenap: r=me
[11:53]  * gmb takes this opportunity to truffle for nourishment
[11:55] <allenap> gmb: Thank you!
[11:56] <allenap> gmb: Agreed, typeof should be taken out back, shot in the head and thrown in the wheelie bin.
[11:57] <allenap> gmb: Actually, I'm going to remove the typeof() again, and replace it with window.LP !== undefined. Referencing it via the window stops it from blowing chunks down the inside of my monitor.
[14:01] <gmb> Hah, accidentally the longest lunch break evar.
[14:02] <gmb> Morning bac.
[14:02] <bac> hey gmb
[14:03] <jpds> Afternoon bac, gmb. :)
[14:03] <gmb> Hi jpds.
[14:03] <bac> hi jpds -- just looking at your branch now
[14:03] <jpds> Awesome.
[14:04]  * gmb is amazed that sinzui's StructuralSubscriptions change is only 641 lines.
[14:04] <gmb> Unless there's a zero missing in the linecount...
[14:05] <sinzui> I was too. I was expecting 2000 lines.
[14:06] <sinzui> gmb: I think the structuralsubscription link mixin that intellectronica added two releases ago dramatically reduced the number of callsites.
[14:06] <gmb> sinzui: Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines.
[14:06] <gmb> sinzui: r=me, anyway.
[14:06] <sinzui> faboo
[14:08] <bac> jpds: i just tried running your branch and registering a new mirror.  it throws an exception because newMirror() doesn't take a whiteboard argument.
[15:07] <gmb> bac: When you're free, will you be able to do a JS / Code review for https://code.launchpad.net/~gmb/launchpad/ajax-dupefinder-has-risen-from-the-grave/+merge/15599?
[15:07] <bac> gmb: sure
[15:07] <gmb> bac: Thanks.
[16:38] <gmb> bac: I'm going to go afk for a while now but I'll be back later. Feel free to ask any questions you may have in the review and I'll get back to you when I can.
[16:38] <bac> gmb: ok.  sorry i didn't get to it yet.
[16:38] <gmb> bac: No worries.
[17:19] <danilo_> bac, hi, can you take a look at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~danilo/launchpad/bug-494106/+merge/15822?
[17:19] <danilo_> bac, when diff shows up, at least :)
[17:20] <adeuring1> bac: can you please review this MP: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~adeuring/launchpad/bug-494075/+merge/15823 ?
[17:24] <danilos> bac, actually, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~danilo/launchpad/bug-494106/+merge/15824 for me (the former one was against a wrong LP branch, diff too big)
[17:25] <danilos> gmb, how about you? :)
[18:28] <bac> danilos, adeuring: will get to them shortly
[18:44] <bac> hi gmb
[19:41] <bac> adeuring: your MP has a diff against db-devel at 4K lines.  this should be against devel, no?
[19:41] <adeuring> bac: yes, sorry for the mess. The real diff should be quite short, 100 lines or so.
[19:42] <bac> adeuring: i've had quite a lot of problem lately with MPs getting targeted to the wrong branch.
[19:43] <bac> i wish it was possible to retarget the MP
[19:43] <adeuring> adeuring: ah, thanks for letting me know! I already began to question my abilities to properly select radio buttons on web pages ;)
[19:44] <bac> adeuring: actually i always use 'bzr send' and only use the web ui to make corrections when the wrong target is used
[19:45] <adeuring> bac: yeah, I should get used to that too
[19:46] <adeuring> bac: anyway, this is the dif again teh devel branch_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337502/
[19:46] <bac> adeuring: thanks
[20:10] <jpds> bac: Can you look at the changes I've made at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jpds/launchpad/fix_196173/+merge/15807 when you have time? Thanks!
[20:14] <adeuring> bac: thanks for your review!
[20:14] <bac> np abel.  thanks for the branch
[20:20] <bac> jpds: the changes look good.  i'd like to see doc/distribution-mirror.txt updated to show the whiteboard being set.
[20:26] <jpds> bac: Something like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/337541/ ?
[20:27] <bac> jpds: that's good.
[20:28] <jpds> bac: Pushed.
[20:32] <bac> jpds: do we need to discuss with the mirror administrators the fact that registrants can now see the whiteboard?  i assume there are no embarassing comments on the whiteboards but it might be a good heads up that the policy has changed.
[20:34] <jpds> bac: I checked with spm last night to make sure there was nothing... unpolitical there.
[20:34]  * jpds → msh.
[20:35] <jpds> s/h$/g/
[20:35] <bac> jpds: right, but a message for people going forward might be nice.  is there a mailing list for the team you can post to?
[20:36] <jpds> bac: The interested parties are subscribed to the bug report. :)
[20:39] <bac> jpds: and now there is a comment...
[20:39] <bac> jpds: nice work.  i'll go update the MP to show it approved.  do you need me to land it for you?
[20:40] <jpds> I don't think I can operate PQM.
[20:40] <bac> ok. i'll do it
[20:41] <jpds> Thanks!
[20:41] <bac> sinzui: will you take a glance at: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/337544/?  let's call it a mid-flight rather than review.
[20:42] <bac> gmb are you around?
[20:47] <jpds> bac: Oh, and we've operated on the belief that they could already see it: http://spooky.ubuntuwire.org/~jpds/screenshot_002.png - the irony. :(
[20:51] <sinzui> bac: I like the work done so far.
[20:52] <sinzui> bac: how to do propose to test it? verify that our mime-types knows what bz2 is?
[20:55] <bac> sinzui: oh, i already added a test but forgot to add it to bzr
[20:55] <bac> sinzui: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/337558/
[20:58] <sinzui> bac: looks good.
[20:58] <bac> sinzui: great.  i'll make a MP and let you rubber stamp it!
[20:59] <sinzui> bac: Yes. I will approve this to land. Do you want to treat the data fix as a separate bug since it needs separate deployment?
[21:00] <bac> sinzui: yes
[21:00] <bac> i'll open that now
[22:20] <bac> sinzui: i'm beginning to wonder if i took the right approach on the mimetypes fix
[22:21] <sinzui> bac: do you want to load a mime.types file?
[22:22] <bac> sinzui: no, i think i'd rather provide a method that adds the extra bits as i do now but have it invoked "early" so that everyone who imports the standard mimetypes will get the modified version.
[22:24] <sinzui> I think that is kind of magic
[22:25] <sinzui> bac: considering that we are designing for multiple distros and pythons, I like explcit
[22:25] <sinzui> bac: Consider how difficult debugging will be if it is not clear which mimetypes you are using
[22:28] <bac> sinzui: consider what's happening in model/bug.py
[22:29] <bac> sinzui: they muck with mimetypes but don't explicitly use it.  it is used by zope.contenttype later
[22:33] <sinzui> I think the bug example should be using your approach. bug 229040 illustrates we may have to live this this a long time
[22:33] <mup> Bug #229040: debdiff shown as html <tech-debt> <Launchpad Bugs:Fix Released by allenap> <mime-support (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/229040>
[22:41] <bac> sinzui: i can move the add_type for the deb diff into my lp.services.mime but then getting it invoked is a problem
[22:41] <bac> i've chatted with gary some and what i'd like to do is convert what i have in lp.services.mime into an initialization method
[22:42] <bac> and then call that method from site.py, which will ensure everyone who then uses the standard mimetypes will get one that has been customized
[22:49] <sinzui> bac: okay
[22:50] <bac> sinzui: the mod is easy so i'll run it by you shortly


[01:43] <brousch> Dicey roads around Lowell, but we made it home
[01:47] <rick_h_> yay, how was the sprint?
[01:48] <brousch> Intimate
[01:57] <Blazeix> brousch++
[01:58] <brousch> Just snap-l, gib, me, and jodee
[02:00] <snap-l> Very intimate.
[02:00] <snap-l> Had soft music, candles, and libations
[02:04] <brousch> Still no dup on my bugs. I am awesome
[02:43] <snap-l> http://thiefscandle.bandcamp.com/ <- Wow, it's like musical geocities
[02:51] <rick_h_> snap-l: cool, sorry it wasn't a full house
[03:18] <rick_h_> ummm http://paste.mitechie.com/show/557/ ...
[03:20] <nixternal> why does every freakin' java package have a dependency on ant? at least they fixed them installing ant & maven at the same damn time
[03:22] <nixternal> and why would you install jenkins or any java package from the ubuntu repos? everyone should know by now you don't touch them or ruby packages with a 10-foot pole
[03:22] <rick_h_> well I wanted to check out the officials vs the jenkins ppa
[03:23] <rick_h_> since we're starting to use a lot of jenkins figured it'd be good stuff
[03:23] <rick_h_> and it's a new precise install
[03:23] <rick_h_> but then that scared the crap out of me
[03:23] <nixternal> i have started creating a ~/.dev-src and just building from source
[03:23] <rick_h_> ah
[03:23] <nixternal> especially with java & ruby stuff
[03:23] <rick_h_> yea, I'm working on trying to setup more docs/auto building things for stuff I use
[03:24] <nixternal> i need to do the same now that work is picking up
[03:25] <nixternal> plus with jenkins, the easy part is installing. setting it up, even from the repos is still a pita
[03:25] <rick_h_> yea, definitely.  I have a feeling this test with local packages is coming to an end
[04:23] <nixternal> haha
[04:42] <rick_h_> almost, cool
[04:42] <rick_h_> well this was a bigger pita than originally planned
[04:44] <nixternal> it usually is especially when the plan starts with 'sudo apt-get'
[04:45] <nixternal> or zypper, or yum, or pacman. it doesn't matter which distro (except for slackware), they all have bum packages when it comes to a non-distro development environment
[04:46] <nixternal> great for packaging and writing useless python scripts/apps
[04:46] <nixternal> remember, the goal behind any dev environment in ubuntu is "opportunistic". real dev starts with './configure && make -j9 && make install'
[04:46] <nixternal> or pip :)
[04:47] <rick_h_> well fortunately it's make install && make builder_test
[04:47] <nixternal> i get scared when they take care of the ./configure portion
[04:47] <rick_h_> well this is bookie so pure python stuff in a virtualenv
[14:29] <snap-l> Good morning
[14:29] <rick_h_> morning
[14:43] <_stink_> yo
[15:41] <brousch> water heater burst this morning. fun fun
[15:43] <tjagoda> Carpeted area around it?
[15:43] <brousch> no
[15:43] <brousch> and i had a pan and drainage hoses hooked up, so not too bad
[15:44] <tjagoda> Thats good
[15:44] <tjagoda> Last time our burst it overflowed the pan and got the carpet in the room next door
[15:44] <brousch> it would've gone over if i wasn't home to turn off the water
[15:45] <rick_h_> ugh, that sucks brousch :(
[15:45] <tjagoda> nice
[15:45] <brousch> and blown up the house since the pilot went out and gas was leaking
[15:55] <tjagoda> oh jesus
[15:55] <tjagoda> electric water heaters here
[17:28] <snap-l> brousch: Ugh, sorry to hear that. Hope it can get cleaned up and fixed soon
[17:28] <snap-l> and glad it didn't happen during jam time
[17:58] <brousch> snap-l: yeah
[17:58] <brousch> it's not a big mess. i had hoses hooked up beforehand. just no hot water until we get it replaced
[18:53] <tjagoda> Giant system76 machine about to be reviewed on this neat show about Linux: http://jblive.tv/
[18:53] <tjagoda> The Leopard water cooled extreme omg machine
[18:54] <snap-l> Reminder: Meeting tonight
[19:44] <tjagoda> brousch: descentos.com
[19:44] <tjagoda> erh
[19:44] <tjagoda> brousch: www.descentos.com
[19:44] <tjagoda> It's attempting to modernize Gnome2.2
[19:48] <brousch> bah
[19:48] <brousch> just use kde
[19:48] <Blazeix> or xfce
[19:48] <brousch> there are what, 3 different things trying to fork gnome2 now?
[19:49] <Blazeix> are ther any successful ones? the only other one I've heard of is Mate
[19:49] <Blazeix> which seems kind of dead
[20:02] <tjagoda> Believe in the gnome of yesteryear, brousch!
[20:29] <snap-l> god, I hate Windows.


[22:39] <mup> PR operator#936 closed: Remove "dying" units from planned units <Created by Mehdi-Bendriss> <Merged by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/936>


[11:39] <CrazyTux> hello, can I get the ban placed on me removed?
[11:45] <CrazyTux> anybody online here?


[18:24] <pat> hi
[18:24] <diogenes_Vx15> !hi
[18:54] <xubuntu10i> I have been having an issue with some unwanted intruders in my Ubuntu laptop. Struggling to get rid of them. Seems to be some sort of code injection in nearly every browser I have tried. I am not much of a coder, just learning really. But I have NO Idea how to get control back of my browsers. Any advice would be much appreciated.


[04:30] <user|2> hi
[04:31] <user|2> what program do you use to put kubuntu  on usb
[04:31] <user|2> im using a windows pc at the momment
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[12:45] <Kangarooo> How do i make notiication of eror report and icon in taskbar to appear by making fake crash?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:34] <Kangarooo> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1388387/how-to-make-fake-apport-crash-to-come-up-in-notification-and-bar-so-i-can-test
[14:12] <user24> hello
[15:42] <Kangarooo> hello
[19:49] <user24> MOHA24INFO SUR TO  MY CHANNEL YOUTUBE
 Hi!
 Does anyone here use hybrid Nvidia on Kubunto 20.04 with dual monitors? I can't start the system with compiz: the windows are misshapen and the font is different, in addition to the screen resolution in lightdm which is of a strange size, divided wrongly.
 EMWE
 Does anyone here use hybrid Nvidia on Kubuntu 20.04 with dual monitors? I can't start the system nicely: windows are misshapen and the font is different, in addition to the screen resolution in Lightdm which is of a strange size, divided wrongly.
[20:44] <anubis> : )
[21:35] <Kangarooo> how to make a test if apport popup is working? how to make some crash? in terminal kill -SIGBUS $$ crashes terminal, makes .crash file, but apport doesnt come. i think something is broken and i got 2x for chromium not opening a crash report come up when it crashed, but after 3rd time crashin apport not reacting. how to make apport to come. to crash terminal or something. i think error report not comming up and not notification
[21:35] <Kangarooo> or buuble notification  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1388387/how-to-make-fake-apport-crash-to-come-up-in-notification-and-bar-so-i-can-test
[21:36] <Maik> how many times more do you want to ask?
[21:50] <Kangarooo> @Maik peple who can answer are busy so need to wait different days times. How else to find who knows how to triage and find why apport not working?
[22:43] <EdgyMC_69> is there a way to install kubuntu without creating a live-usb-like device? I have two separate drives and I want to make an installation on the second drive.
[22:44] <EdgyMC_69> I think I could create grub on the second drive and then copy the files I have from the current installation to a new ext4 partition?
[22:46] <EdgyMC_69> I think it's a lot less cumbersome to do a liveusb after all :/
[22:46] <valorie> you can run in a VM from an ISO
[22:46] <EdgyMC_69> I'll try that
[22:46] <EdgyMC_69> didn't think of it, not sure if it will work though, but seems interesting
[22:46] <valorie> that's how we often do testing
[22:46] <valorie> it's pretty easy
[22:47] <valorie> just ensure that you can find the iso
[22:47] <valorie> lol
[22:47] <EdgyMC_69> I have downloaded a 21.10 iso
[22:47] <oerheks> a lot less cumbersome ...
[22:54] <user|29> hello
[22:55] <user|29> first time using this service, im i talking to a real person?
[22:55] <EdgyMC_69> yes, there are multiple people here
[22:55] <EdgyMC_69> anyway - installing from vm seriously works lol, that's great
[22:56] <user|29> ok thanks, my internet is dead and i have no hotspot. is there any way i can download kububtu apps from my android phone and then just transfer them to my computer via usb?
[22:57] <EdgyMC_69> have you tried plugging in your usb and seeing if usb-tethering works? it should share your phone internet with your pc
[22:58] <user|29> i spent all my hotspot data, that includes tethering, ive been looking into bypassing my phone providers hotspot limit, some people say i can do it. but i need to research more
[22:59] <user|29> i can basically go to the rerminal and change tye ipv4 value from 64 to 65, and also i need to use a  vpn but ive tried it unsuccessfully
[23:00] <user|29> so my only option now is to figure out a way to just access the repository from my phone and download them that way
[23:01] <genii> It should get recognized as a storage device
[23:02] <user|29> youre saying that i can?
[23:02] <genii> Device notifier should come up and give you options to mount it's filesystem
[23:03] <user|29> wait, first tell me how i can access the ubuntu repositories from my phone pls
[23:05] <genii> The answer to that question would be a bit more convoluted
[23:05] <user|29> mm...
[23:05] <user|29> let me see what i can find on the internet, thanks for helping. i might be back in a few hours
[23:06] <user|29> 👍👍👍
[23:07] <genii> If the thing you are trying to install only has 1 file to download ypou can point your phone's browser to that by navigating the mirror, otherwise you could use the packages.ubuntu.com to see what dependencies you also require to download. Then you would transfer those off your phone's download dir to the dir /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:07] <EdgyMC_69> they left :(
[23:08] <genii> ..and too late
[23:08] <genii> Well, nayhow, that would be the basic process
[23:10] <EdgyMC_69> wow, I've booted the vm from my physical drive with kubuntu installed on it
[23:10] <EdgyMC_69> sick
[23:11] <EdgyMC_69> this means I'll now have a windows vm opened forever
[23:11] <EdgyMC_69> like, I had no idea you could use drives like that
[23:12] <EdgyMC_69> should I have made it use lvm?
[23:12] <EdgyMC_69> I've had some exposure to it and it seemed very useful to me, because I was always kind of messy with planning out my partitions and wanted to try new configurations
[23:13] <EdgyMC_69> like a separate /home
[23:13] <EdgyMC_69> but they weren't so easy to change
[23:13] <EdgyMC_69> but I am afraid that lvm isn't supported by everything and I could mess it up and lose my data :/


[15:09] <wylde> anyone alive in here? There's someone in #ubuntu looking for help doing translations and there's no reply in #ubuntu-translators.
[15:54] <MrChrisDruif> wylde; I'm not considering myself alive ;-)


[22:54] <zeiseidk> Hello
[22:54] <zeiseidk> Is anyone here
[22:55] <Eickmeyer> !ask zeiseidk
[22:55] <Eickmeyer> !ask | zeiseidk
[22:56] <zeiseidk> I'm running ubuntustudio 18.04 with KXstudio installed. Some applications are really laggy. VST plugins (Helm/Zyn) UI are laggy, Signal UI is laggy. What to do?
[22:57] <Eickmeyer> zeiseidk: We do not support running Ubuntu Studio with KXStudio installed. That PPA has been known to reak havoc on Ubuntu Studio systems, and as such, we cannot support it.
[22:58] <zeiseidk> that is a shame. is there a way to get all the plugins from kxstudio, without installing the complete kxstudio packages?
[22:59] <Eickmeyer> What plugins do you need?
[22:59] <OvenWerks> which applications?
[22:59] <zeiseidk> all the vst plugins, effects, cadence and so on
[23:00] <OvenWerks> cadence will not run with Studio properly
[23:00] <Eickmeyer> Cadence, in particular, causes problems with Ubuntu Studio installs.
[23:00] <zeiseidk> ok, it works for me
[23:00] <Eickmeyer> We can't support it.
[23:00] <OvenWerks> you can replace it with ubuntustudio-controls
[23:00] <Eickmeyer> If you need support if using kxstudio, go to #kxstudio.
[23:00] <zeiseidk> ok, by uninstalling candence and the installing ubuntustudio-controls?
[23:01] <zeiseidk> then*
[23:01] <OvenWerks> yes.
[23:01] <zeiseidk> ok thanks
[23:01] <Eickmeyer> Yes, but only the newest version. If you'd like, you can add ppa:ubuntustudio-ppa/backports for that.
[23:01] <zeiseidk> perhaps I should di a clean reinstall
[23:01] <OvenWerks> I do not know why things are laggy normally that would be a video driver thing
[23:02] <Eickmeyer> You'll also need to clear out your ~/.pulse directory.
[23:02] <zeiseidk> oh yeah, I'll try activating my nvidia card
[23:02] <Eickmeyer> Cadence does some configuration stuff in that.
[23:03] <zeiseidk> thanks, I'll uninstall cadence and clear /.pulse
[23:04] <Eickmeyer> The developer of Cadence is even moving away from having Cadence, but I don't know what his plans are. The other tools (Catia, Claudia, etc.) are okay, but not Cadence itself.
[23:07] <zeiseidk> do I delete everything in /.pulse?
[23:08] <Eickmeyer> Yes.
[23:08] <Eickmeyer> That entire directory overrides pulseaudio's default configuration in Ubuntu.
[23:09] <Eickmeyer> if you run "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntustudio-ppa/backports" it will add our (unannounced) backports PPA which contains the latest version of Ubuntu Studio Controls. You'll find it much easier than Cadence.
[23:13] <zeiseidk> nice, I'll do that!
[23:30] <zenseidk> Hi, just wanted to say that I solved the gui lagging issue
[23:30] <zenseidk> I added backport repos and uninstalled cadence and updated (and enabled nvidia graphics driver and restarted)
[23:31] <zenseidk> thanks for your help
[23:35] <Eickmeyer> zenseidk: Glad we could help. :)


[03:16] <Bashing-om> !dualboot
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/it-s-official-ubuntu-16-04-lts-now-lets-you-move-the-unity-launcher-to-bottom-501932.shtml
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: nihao
[05:20] <cfhowlett> ?
[05:20] <cfhowlett> konichiwa
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> ohayo
[05:20] <cfhowlett> (in Japan now ...)
[05:20] <cfhowlett> :)
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: wich region in tokyo are you?
[05:21] <cfhowlett> shinagawa IIRC
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:21] <cfhowlett> Indeed!  What's cooler is
[05:21] <cfhowlett> Canonical has offices right above me at work
[05:22] <cfhowlett> Still trying to find out if any Ubuntu Studio folk can get me a tour and/or photo op
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> nice
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you get a work apartment or hotel?
[05:23] <cfhowlett> apartment --- sakura house, naturally
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> whats sakura house
[05:23] <cfhowlett> foreigner friendly real estate company ... hotels, guest houses and apartments
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> cool!
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> 1.499 Y a day oO
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> SHINAGAWA TOGOSHI "Tokyo Heights"
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Daily rates starting from ¥2,600. Minimum stay: 30 days.
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> woot
[05:26] <cfhowlett> yep
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> im jaleous, wanan go back to japan also :p
[05:31] <cfhowlett> lots of room here!
[05:31] <cfhowlett> and if you have marketable skills ... why not?
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> ive been on travel to tokyo, chiba and mount fuji
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> morning baizon
[05:44] <baizon> hi lotuspsychje... do you ever sleep? =)
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> baizon: just work up for a lazy sunday
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> woke
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> and browsing tokyo food docu's because cfhowlett made me jaleous :p
[05:47] <baizon> hehe
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/it-s-official-ubuntu-16-04-lts-now-lets-you-move-the-unity-launcher-to-bottom-501932.shtml
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> rocknroll!
[05:53] <baizon> but why?
[05:53] <baizon> its perfect on the left side
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> well many users wanted it at bottom when unity switch
[05:53] <cfhowlett> cuz users ...
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> at least the users get to choose, i find better
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> lets hope nobody wants it to the right now lol
[09:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> hi lordievader
[09:06] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje, how are you?
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> coffee on lazy sunday :p
[09:06] <lordievader> Same here :)
[09:18] <cfhowlett> ikonia, he seems to be complaining about a lack of love from you
[21:39] <Bashing-om> Gonna go, troubleshoot my hard drive issues .. bbl .


[00:16] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Ubuntu 18.10 Beta is Now Available to Download @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=135381 (by Joey Sneddon)
[00:46] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Lubuntu Blog: Lubuntu Cosmic Cuttlefish Beta has been released! @ https://lubuntu.me/cosmic-beta-released/
[01:08] <tsimonq2> krytarik: Duuuuuude, too late for the newsletter? :P
[01:08] <krytarik> Yuuuuuuup!
[01:09] <tsimonq2> Oh man, no way!
[01:10] <tsimonq2> For real?
[01:10] <krytarik> For real realz!
[01:10] <tsimonq2> Maaaaaaaaaaaaan!
[01:11] <krytarik> Just to be clear, you are as usual talking about the past issue, right? :P
[01:12] <tsimonq2> No, *this* one!
[01:12] <tsimonq2> :P
[01:12] <krytarik> Uhuu, this is new! :3
[01:13] <krytarik> So yes, of course.
[01:17] <Wild_Man> You mean he is on time for a change?
[01:17] <krytarik> I mean anything up to Saturday is fine.
[01:18] <Wild_Man> I know, I am teasing tsimonq2
[01:19] <Wild_Man> I see the new ubuntu member is listed already, I guess my email was received
[01:19] <krytarik> Yup, I personally added it! :P
[01:20] <Wild_Man> I think I seen an email that he also became an ubuntu core developer but I need to check on that to make sure it is the same person
[01:24] <Wild_Man> I see same first name but still a different person
[02:13] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Ubuntu 18.10 "Cosmic Cuttlefish" Beta Released with GNOME 3.30 and Linux 4.18 @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-18-10-cosmic-cuttlefish-beta-released-with-gnome-3-30-and-linux-4-18-522935.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[03:05] <Bashing-om> off to bed , leave IRC up to see developments when I return \o
[03:05] <krytarik> G'night.
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