[06:04] <new-clars> I just installed kbubuntu for the 1.time, but what is my root password?
[06:04] <Rede_> make uninstall
[06:04] <nico8481> what is the place to put stuff like "fortune" to make the shell run them at start? .bash_profile? .bashrc?
[06:04] <Blissex> !root
[06:05] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:05] <Unimatrix9> hi there, where is the network setup for kubuntu 6.06?
[06:05] <Rede_> the new version i installed wouldnt let me burn files > 4GB and cdrdao didn't have root privs
[06:05] <Blissex> nico8481: depends, '.bash_profile' or equivalent
[06:06] <nico8481> Blissex: well, doesn't work :p
[06:06] <gobbe> Rede_, does apt-get say that it's installed? could you provide a screenshot or something
[06:06] <Blissex> !doesntwork
[06:06] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Blissex
[06:06] <TheHighChild> How are we doing zack?
[06:06] <Unimatrix9> cant find anything to add my eht0 on kubuntu?....do you know?
[06:06] <Blissex> nico8481: as I said, depends...
[06:06] <Rede_> shawn@shawn-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install k3b
[06:06] <nico8481> on what?
[06:06] <Rede_> Reading package lists... Done
[06:06] <Rede_> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:06] <Rede_> k3b is already the newest version.
[06:07] <Rede_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:07] <Rede_> shawn@shawn-desktop:~$ k3b
[06:07] <Rede_> bash: k3b: command not found
[06:07] <Rede_> shawn@shawn-desktop:~$
[06:07] <Rede_> shoot
[06:07] <Rede_> sorry
[06:07] <Blissex> nico8481: on how you login and which shell
[06:07] <mneisen> !install
[06:07] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[06:07] <gobbe> Rede_, pastebin.com is a good for that ;-) but...
[06:07] <nico8481> Blissex: ok found it, it had something to do with the non-loginness of my shell :P
[06:07] <gobbe> Rede_, if you try apt-get remove k3b
[06:07] <nico8481> have to use .bashrc with non-login shells
[06:07] <Rede_> i tried, it wants to uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <Blissex> nico8481: thats quite inappropriate...
[06:08] <gobbe> Rede_, kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-packet
[06:08] <nico8481> Blissex: what is?
[06:08] <gobbe> package
[06:08] <Rede_> so its not a big deal then?
[06:08] <Blissex> nico8481: using '.bashrc' to do that.
[06:08] <gobbe> so removing it doesn't remove anything else
[06:08] <Rede_> ahh ok thanks man!
[06:09] <nico8481> # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells
[06:09] <Blissex> nico8481: if you think you know better, go ahead :-)
[06:09] <nico8481> Blissex: it's not me who says it :)
[06:10] <Blissex> nico8481: but it is you who is not thinking it through...
[06:10] <nico8481> it's just the 1st line of the script
[06:11] <nico8481> not thinking what? .bash-profile is for login shells, it's written in it too... so it leaves me .bashrc... unless there's a third one that i haven't heared of yet?
[06:11] <Blissex> nico8481: go ahead :-)
[06:13] <nico8481> :-/
[06:13] <mikekarthur> can anyone tell me how to upgrade a Breezy installation to a Dapper one?
[06:14] <gobbe> mikekarthur, change sources.list's breezy's to dapper, run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade and sit down to wait
[06:14] <shawn__> ok, now k3b doesn't start at all:
[06:14] <mneisen> !upgrade
[06:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[06:14] <shawn__> k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libk3bdevice.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:14] <mikekarthur> gobbe: thanks
[06:14] <Onetrack> Mike, just edit your sources, change entries from breezy to dapper, save it, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:15] <ultm8> hello there folks
[06:15] <ultm8> does anybody want to help me install wine?
[06:15] <Onetrack> anyone know which kernel sources to install so i can get parallels working in dapper?
[06:15] <zack> highchild :     well it locked at powernowd-- so i did the unthinkable--powered off
[06:15] <dr_willis> parallels ?
[06:16] <Onetrack> its like vmware
[06:16] <TheHighChild> zack You weren't able to get into a failsafe terminal?
[06:16] <gobbe> shawn__, weird. how did you install it?-)
[06:16] <gobbe> shawn__, it definetly should install all libs also
[06:16] <zack> highchild:  so i went into recovery and aptitude
[06:16] <TheHighChild> zack are you able to boot into recovery mode?
[06:16] <shawn__> sudo apt-get remove k3b/sudo apt-get intall k3b
[06:17] <zack> had to do a dpkg --reconfigure -a
[06:17] <zack> so in aptitude now fixing broken --etc
[06:17] <zack> so will try a normal boot
[06:17] <james_xx> can anyone tell me what the difference will be between Mepis 6.0 and kubuntu dapper?
[06:17] <TheHighChild> zack very cool you got that far. Awesome. Remember to check and see if kubuntu-desktop was removed.
[06:18] <zack> what do i look for in aptitude
[06:18] <gobbe> shawn__, wery interesting...hmh....
[06:18] <bdmp__> what do if do if my network interface says HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00?
[06:18] <dr_willis> james_xx,   ive messed with mepis in the past.. i suggest using  Ubuntu
[06:18] <Mitja> I'm using breezy and just want to upgrade kde. How do I do that?
[06:18] <shawn__> tried removing/installing with aptitude, which installed a few other packages, but still no go
[06:18] <TheHighChild> zack um, I don't know what aptitude is
[06:19] <zack> the command line version and easier to use program of apt
[06:19] <james_xx> dr_willis: ubuntu/kubuntu will not work with my video card.... mepis will
[06:19] <zack> sudo aptitude
[06:20] <dr_willis> james_xx,  i find that hard to belive.. it may need tobe reconfigured correctly.
[06:20] <dr_willis> james_xx,  and what video card is this?
[06:20] <shawn__> very strange :\
[06:20] <james_xx> dr_willis: i like kubuntu better than mepis, but i lose 3D graphics and power saving mode (as well as screen savers) with kubuntu
[06:20] <james_xx> dr_willis: it is a crap inetl extreme graphics II
[06:20] <dr_willis> james_xx,  so you are saying the 3d dosent work? but the basic 2d does?
[06:20] <Rede_> would be a pain to have to reinstall kubuntu because of this heh
[06:21] <james_xx> dr_willis: yes
[06:21] <james_xx> intel*
[06:21] <dr_willis> james_xx,   check the ubuntu wiki/forums for that card. perhaps just needs a little kick in the head.. or somthing installed.
[06:21] <TheHighChild> zack type 'aptitude search kubuntu-desktop'
[06:21] <james_xx> dr_willis: 3D works for a few days, then dies (each time i have installed kubuntu
[06:22] <zack> ok will try that
[06:22] <dr_willis> hmm.. file a bug report.. and monitor what changes.. help make it a better disrto.
[06:22] <james_xx> i have kubuntu on my laptop and have no problems
[06:22] <gobbe> Rede_, i think that the compiled version removed also more than it should have
[06:22] <dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <TheHighChild> zack if there isn't a return on it, you'll need to do 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' or however you install with aptitiude
[06:22] <dr_willis> this is on a desktop machine you are having the problems?
[06:22] <Rede_> yeah, that was my thought
[06:22] <james_xx> dr_willis: yep
[06:22] <gobbe> Rede_, i could pass you that library if you want
[06:23] <Rede_> sure, if it would work :)
[06:23] <dr_willis> james_xx,  :P ive seen gforcemx400's on sale for $15 this weekend. lol.
[06:23] <gobbe> Rede_, http://gobbe.net/libk3bdevice.so.2
[06:23] <gobbe> Rede_, place it to /usr/lib
[06:23] <james_xx> dr_willis: where can you get one for that price? i have a geforce mmx 400 right here... i paid $50 at walmart
[06:24] <james_xx> geforce mmx 4000*
[06:24] <dr_willis> james_xx,  frys electronics.. i think that may of been after rebates
[06:24] <Rede_> i need libk3b too
[06:24] <dr_willis> Ive been looking for a decent no fan video card.
[06:25] <james_xx> dr_willis: the thing is, mepis is working with my video card, and i could just return this geforce and get my $50 back
[06:25] <Rede_> k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libk3b.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:25] <zack> highchild
[06:26] <gobbe> Rede_: http://gobbe.net/libk3b.so.2
[06:26] <james_xx> KDE itself has some bugs when it comes to power saving mode for monitors
[06:26] <zack> did the aptitude search kubunt-desktop and it came back with a P in front of it
[06:26] <zack> i think that is pending
[06:26] <TheHighChild> zack: yeah
[06:26] <Rede_> awesome man! thanks a ton!
[06:26] <Bernier> hi, when I close my computer , everything goes well except for one thing. when it gets to "will now halt", there's the click sound of the computer when it closes but it doesn't. it stays open and get stuck there until I press the power button. Is there something to do so it closes automatically?
[06:26] <sokuban> Where would I get NASM? apparantly I need it
[06:26] <Rede_> i really appreciate it
[06:27] <zack> so i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it is working on it
[06:28] <TheHighChild> zack awesome. Hopefully the dpkg -configure -a works everything out. Since it crashed before, it may not have completed the dist-upgrade. Do you know?
[06:28] <isolationist> thinking of changing distro to kubuntu - love the live cd
[06:28] <TheHighChild> What distro are you running isolationist
[06:29] <Bernier> isolationist , do so then.  and when it's installed it's way faster than with the live CD
[06:29] <isolationist> TheHighChild: using SuSE 10.1 - which has been a big dissapointment over 10.0
[06:30] <isolationist> Bernier: hopefuly the package management works 100% as well unlike this zen updater thing
[06:30] <TheHighChild> isolationist: never tried it but I've seen some disappointed users over here
[06:30] <zack> highchild--after the upgrade there were some dependencies missing and no graphical or network, so that is why i got the dvd
[06:30] <neil__> hi
[06:30] <Bernier> lol =P
[06:30] <sokuban> how do you install NASM with kubuntu? what is its package name?
[06:30] <TheHighChild> zack ok, are you going to do a dist-upgrade from the DVD?
[06:30] <zack> yes
[06:31] <isolationist> hell i am going to install it and see it what happens
[06:31] <TheHighChild> zack awesome. Well, keep me posted. I wish you the best and feel free to hit me up if you think I can help with anything
[06:32] <zack> highchild:--ok thanks---was trying to do dpkg -reconfigure xorg and it kept telling me package was not installed-so maybe now life will be good again
[06:33] <neil__> got a strange problem while dist-upgrading to dapper, seems to being in the kubuntudapperknownproblems, apt-get dist-upgrade fails because of the lvm2 package, saying "dpkg: error processing /var/...lvm2... (--unpack)"
[06:33] <neil__> (upgrading from breezy)
[06:34] <neil__> (and on ppc)
[06:35] <bdmp> I have a network problem. I upgraded to dapper and my network device changed from eth0 to eth1 and now I can not connect to the internet. I have tried a lot of things but I think one of the problems is that the new eth1's HWaddr is 00:00:00:00:00:00. Any suggestions?
[06:35] <neil__> apt-get remove lvm2 says it also want to remove "lvm2 ubuntu-base ubuntu-standard"
[06:35] <neil__> is it the/a safe way?
[06:36] <neil__> bdmp, did you try a plain ifconfig addr/up/route?
[06:37] <james_xx> i am just wondering if Mepis 6.0 and kubuntu dapper will be aboutthe same thing???
[06:37] <bdmp> neil__: no
[06:37] <bdmp> just as a command?
[06:38] <neil__> hm... are you using dhcp?
[06:38] <neil__> bdmp, you have eth1 and no eth0?
[06:38] <dr_willis> james_xx,  last i heard mepis was going to start using the ubuntu repos. so i doubt if there will be much diff.
[06:39] <bdmp> error fetching interface information:device not found
[06:39] <bdmp> neil__: I want to but I change it in the settings and it doesn't change when I check with ifconfig
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: kanotix is optimized for speed if you want kde on a not so powerful system
[06:40] <bdmp> neil__: that las thing was about dhcp. yes I have eth1 and no eth0
[06:40] <james_xx> dr_willis, so what i am wondering is if there is any point in me re-intslling kubuntu on this desktop.... video card is working and Mepis is going to practically become kubuntu anyways
[06:40] <new-clars> what is an god app. to use when look television?
[06:41] <bdmp> mythtv or tv time
[06:41] <bdmp> I could only get xawtv working thought
[06:41] <new-clars> ok - but tv-time is not on my pack list
[06:41] <neil__> strange that lvm2 shit is installed and i cant remove it with apt-get remove...
[06:42] <bdmp> new-clars: try this
[06:42] <bdmp> !sources
[06:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[06:43] <bdmp> neil__: any suggestions?
[06:43] <neil__> you could try "dhcpclient eth1"
[06:43] <neil__> or check your dmesg to see why you don't have eth0
[06:43] <neil__> or lspci
[06:44] <neil__> is there maybe a --force option or something so i can dist-upgrade even if it fails for the lvm2 package ?
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> If you have changed network cards there is a file in /etc/ which lists the bindings between interfaces and mac addresses
[06:44] <dr_willis> james_xx,   use what you like - its the linux way. But ubuntu proberly has much better forums/wiki/support.. but with memps taking on the ubuntu repos.. the  info on ubuntu will peroblery work for it as well
[06:44] <bdmp> Says no such command for dhcpclient eth1
[06:45] <neil__> dhclient
[06:46] <bdmp> ok I am a little lost. neil__  is the HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 a problem?
[06:46] <DrBair> im looking to archive a bunch of pictures into a giant tarball, whats a good compression program to use for jpegs? Preferably something better than bzip2
[06:46] <dr_willis> i doubt if the jpegs will compress much at all.
[06:46] <bdmp> h3sp4wn: so what do I do in that file and what is the file?
[06:47] <sistema> hello wat install gnome desktop???
[06:47] <bdmp> neil__: how do I check dmsg?
[06:47] <DrBair> i know theres like the jpeg2000 format that can compress a lot better than jpeg... so i figure there must be a way to compress them
[06:47] <neil__> type "dmesg"
[06:47] <bdmp> sistema: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> bdmp: If I knew what the file was called I would have told you - I usually just find it by grepping for the mac address in /etc if I need it
[06:48] <sistema> thaks
[06:48] <JohnFlux> Riddell: in kubuntu there are a lot of system users without a description
[06:48] <JohnFlux> Riddell: would it be possible for you to add a short a description to them?
[06:48] <bdmp> h3sp4wn: I don't know how to do that either
[06:49] <JohnFlux> Riddell: I mean in the description field in /etc/passwd
[06:49] <JohnFlux> Riddell: I show the description to the user in ksysguard
[06:49] <bdmp> neil__: what am I looking for? should I paste bin this? I gotta transfer it with usb key though cuz I have no network.
[06:50] <nC4k|AalYa> Quelle est la commande pour sortir du mode console pour passer en mode graphique ?
[06:50] <Riddell> JohnFlux: that would need to be done in each package
[06:50] <Riddell> seems like a fair idea though
[06:51] <bdmp> ctrl+alt+f2?
[06:51] <bdmp> nC4k|AalYa:
[06:51] <nC4k|AalYa> bdmp, en faite, wine a planter, j'ai du appuyer sur reset, il redemare corectement mais il se bloque une fois qu'il a fini de tout charger, alt+F7 ca me ramener sur la page pour me loguer ?
[06:53] <bdmp> nC4k|AalY sorry, I am not so good at french. alt-f7 will get you out of the last command/
[06:53] <bdmp> !french
[06:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:53] <Bernier> i can speak french
[06:53] <Bernier> but i'm not sure if i can help
[06:54] <Bernier> cuz it's my 3rd day on linux
[06:54] <Bernier> lol
[06:54] <ultm8> hola
[06:54] <ultm8> bonjour, czesc hei, privet
[06:54] <neil__> cool =)
[06:54] <nC4k|AalYa> bpmp, in fact, wine crash, i have to push reset button, but now when i start, all module load but its write Kubuntu, the graph dont come
[06:55] <ultm8> can anyone help me with my install of wine?
[06:55] <Bernier> ncak|aaIya dis le en francais je vais te le traduire
[06:55] <nC4k|AalYa> en faite, wine a planter, j'ai du appuyer sur reset, il redemare corectement mais il se bloque une fois qu'il a fini de tout charger, alt+F7 ca me ramener sur la page pour me loguer ?
[06:56] <zack> HIGHCHILD:   YOUR KUNG FU IS GREAT---- I NOW HAVE KUBUNTU DESKTOP AGAIN  did the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it is alive
[06:56] <cgeo> hi
[06:56] <ultm8> hi
[06:56] <Bernier> bdmp: ncak|aaiYa means that wina crashed and he had to press the reset butoton. it's restarting correctly but it get stuck once it finishes to load everything. and it gets him back to the login page
[06:57] <zack> now with adept i can get my opengl up again and life will be much happier--again thank you very much
[06:58] <nC4k|AalYa> Bernier, ty
[06:58] <Bernier> np
[06:58] <bdmp> not sure honestly
[06:58] <bdmp> out of my league
[06:59] <ultm8> are there any genius kubuntu wizards in here who can help with trouble shooting problems etc?
[06:59] <nC4k|AalYa> ok
[06:59] <Bernier> ncak|AaIya he doesnt know =/
[06:59] <Bernier> ultim8 ask and we'll see
[07:00] <ultm8> well am having a wine crisis
[07:00] <Bernier> what's wrong
[07:00] <bdmp> I had a similar problem and I did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> wine is not really to do with kubuntu
[07:01] <ultm8> trying to install it, did the user manual instructions... but when i go to install it with adept says broken
[07:01] <ultm8> install
[07:01] <bdmp> then when it finishes it asks you which log in you want to use and i switched from the looping kde one to the gdm gnome one
[07:01] <ultm8> hold on let me load up adept to get the exact message
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> ultm8: Have you tried wine from someones repos ?
[07:02] <bdmp> that cut the kde log in out of the picture and then I just chose kde when I wanted to log in. In essece all it did was change the broken log in screen.
[07:02] <bdmp> Bernier: do you follow that?
[07:02] <bdmp> long way around maybe
[07:02] <ultm8> under adept, i get BREAK (install)
[07:02] <weedar> Is it common for a 15" CRT to have maximum resolution of 640x480 in Dapper?
[07:03] <ultm8> the error message says when i click install is There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[07:05] <ultm8> by the way am using kubuntu dapper amd 64 version
[07:05] <ultm8> if that helps in anyway?
[07:05] <Bernier> Ncak|aa|ya: bdmp dis que il a deja eu un probleme comem celui la  et il a fait sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. et quand a fini a lui demande quel login il veut utiliser et il a changer pour gdm gnome.. ca coupe le login de kde et il fait somplement choisir kde quand il veut se logger. en fait, tout ce qu'il a fait c'est de changer l'cran de log-in qui tais briser
[07:06] <Bernier> anyway i g2g
[07:06] <Bernier> c ya
[07:06] <BlankB> weedar: no it is not common.
[07:07] <weedar> Hm, then I wonder what is causing it..I am certain it could at least support 800x600 earlier..Updating to dapper and newest KDE did not help either :/
[07:08] <BlankB> weedar: Go to K->Sytem Settings->(admin mode) ->hardware
[07:08] <BlankB> weedar: have you tried the generics for the monitor? Like 1024x768@60 and 1024x768 @ 70?
[07:09] <weedar> BlankB: the problem is that I am only able to choos 640x480 and 320x200 in Hardware->Display
[07:09] <zack> HIGHCHILD;;;;  U THERE
[07:10] <weedar> although xorg.conf contains references to higher resolutions
[07:11] <BlankB> weedar: that happened to me on my new flat pannel...but I switched it to generic instead of the Plug and Play and that fixed it. Unfortunately now my monitor does not go to sleep.
[07:11] <weedar> BlankB: monitor-insomnia would be a better problem than low resolution :)
[07:11] <weedar> BlankB: how do I set it to generic?
[07:11] <BlankB> weedar: Go to K->Sytem Settings->(admin mode) ->hardware
[07:12] <BlankB> weedar: Go to K->Sytem Settings->display ->(admin mode) ->hardware
[07:12] <BlankB> then configure for the monitor.
[07:13] <BlankB> generics are up at the top.
[07:17] <weedar> BlankB: I do not get the option to chooe admin mode that early in System settings, that is an option I usually get from chosing a particulare part,and "Hardware" is not a clickable option, just a group
[07:22] <BlankB> weedar: are you using dapper?
[07:23] <weedar> BlankB: yes
[07:23] <TheHighChild> zack here man, sorry. Had to do some work
[07:24] <TheHighChild> zack also, if you can send messages to TheHighChild (you can tab complete the name) So that I get themm in red and get a notice
[07:24] <zack> ok--your kung fu is great
[07:24] <zack> i have a desktop
[07:24] <TheHighChild> zack: awesome! Very happy for you man
[07:24] <TheHighChild> zack: Any troubles on the boot?
[07:25] <zack> TheHighChild: so i am doing the adept thing to get my opengl
[07:25] <weedar> BlankB: I upgraded from Breezy, but the resolution issue happend before the upgrade
[07:25] <zack> TheHighChild: not really--had to do a xorg reconfigure
[07:26] <zack> that is how i lost openfl
[07:26] <zack> opengl
[07:26] <TheHighChild> zack: Are you back to 100% now?
[07:26] <zack> TheHighChild: thank you very much for your help--your kungfu is great
[07:26] <BlankB> weedar: the setup interface sounds different that what I see
[07:27] <TheHighChild> zack: np man, just glad I was able to help. Feel free to hit me up if you ever see me around.
[07:27] <zack> almost---lost my window icon but will try and figure that out--u know which desktop you are on
[07:27] <TheHighChild> zack: window icon?
[07:28] <zack> TheHighChild: am i getting you in red now?
[07:28] <TheHighChild> zack: yes
[07:28] <zack> TheHighChild: desktop selection box not showing up on panel
[07:28] <TheHighChild> zack: I am going to whisper you
[07:29] <weedar> BlankB: hang on, I can upload a screenshot
[07:29] <zack> TheHighChild: probably an applet i need to select
[07:29] <james_xxx> ok this is nuts..... i have had all of these issues with 3D graphics on kubuntu on my desktop... now i have lost 3D graphics on my laptop
[07:30] <james_xxx> AND, what caused me to lose 3D graphics on my laptop??? i installed the ATI drivers from easyubuntu
[07:30] <james_xxx> can i undo this?
[07:30] <TheHighChild> zack: Sorry man, I am not too sure what you mean. Do you mean the login screen doesn't show up?
[07:30] <zack> TheHighChild: I need to register
[07:30] <TheHighChild> zack: ok, no worries
[07:30] <dr_willis> it pays to learn how to install them - without using easyubuntu.
[07:31] <zack> TheHighChild: the login is ok
[07:31] <TheHighChild> zack: You mean for multiple desktops? That little thing doesn't show?
[07:31] <james_xxx> dr_willis: i am finding that out... i think easyubuntu may be why i am having all of these issues
[07:31] <zack> TheHighChild: near the time you have boxes labled 1 2 3 4 for me to select my desktop--that is mixxing
[07:32] <zack> missing
[07:32] <dr_willis> james_xx the isntalling of the ati drivers was about a 3 min job - last i did it. :P
[07:32] <james_xxx> dr_willis: the thing is whenever i lose the 3D graphics, the ONLY thing i can do to bring them back is reinstall, and this is beginning to suck
[07:33] <james_xxx> dr_willis: that's all great, but i could not find the drivers in adept, so i used easyubuntu
[07:33] <dr_willis> !ati
[07:33] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:33] <dr_willis> i used the shell and apt-get :P
[07:33] <TheHighChild> zack: right click on a blank part of the bar where you want the desktops. Select Add Applet. The appler is called 'Desktop Preview and Changer'
[07:34] <james_xxx> dr_willis: again, that is great, but i don't care what you sued
[07:34] <james_xxx> used*
[07:35] <james_xxx> ok, i have an M6-P chip.... i should have stuck with the generic drivers
[07:35] <weedar> BlankB: http://www.home.no/weedar/snapshot6.png - Here you can see what I'm talking about (in full 640x480 glory)
[07:35] <zack> TheHighChild: ok will try now--got so wrapped up forgot i was on call and had to forward work to me--duh
[07:35] <jjesse> good afternoon, i have two hard drives, and the second one is mounted, how do i set it up so it is automatically mounted?
[07:36] <james_xxx> now that i have lost my 3D graphics, is there ANY way to get them back without re-intsalling????
[07:36] <james_xxx> re-installing*
[07:37] <james_xxx> man i hate kubuntu more and more
[07:37] <BlankB> weedar: ahh...I see.
[07:37] <BlankB> weedar: your screen is too small to see all the options.
[07:38] <BlankB> weedar: find someone with the same graphics card as you and copy their xorg.conf ...after they modify it for generic monitor.
[07:39] <james_xxx> damn it
[07:39] <BlankB> weedar: what card are you using.
[07:39] <james_xxx> i would pay for some real support if i could call someone and not have to pay $250
[07:42] <zack> TheHighChild: did that and got 2--haha
[07:42] <a1337> hello, any ideas on how can i change refresh rate on kubuntu? it only lets me choice 75 hz, and i want 60 :(
[07:42] <zack> TheHighChild: but got one removed and am now downloading my nvidia glx driver
[07:45] <james_xx> kubuntu really sucks
[07:45] <TheHighChild> zack: awesome! Sounds like you're on your way. I'll be around for another 2 hours so keep me posted on any trouble or questions you might have.
[07:46] <zack> TheHighChild: ok and thx again
[07:47] <GullyFoyle> how can i get dapper to recognize my soundcard? sound disappeared when i upgraded.
[07:47] <james_xx> does anyone know ANYONE out there who i could call or chat with to figure out what the hell is wrong with what i am doing, why i keep losing 3D graphics, and what i can do to get them back without re-installing???
[07:48] <a1337> any ideas on how can i make my usb micro to work with kubuntu?
[07:48] <jjesse> jeez dude relax a bit.... maybe no one knows or is busy
[07:48] <james_xx> this has happened repeatedly on my desktop, and has now happened on my laptop
[07:48] <TheHighChild> james_xx: You try reconfiguring your xserver?
[07:48] <jjesse> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver i think
[07:48] <james_xx> jjesse: i have tried asking people about this in here for weeks, no one knows
[07:48] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Pay canocial for 24/7 support
[07:49] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: I am sure they would be happy to help you for the right fee
[07:49] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: i would pay them if i didn't have to pay $250
[07:49] <GullyFoyle> the output from lspci show my sb soundcard but it's not in the system info
[07:49] <bulltitan> is it safe to install nforce drivers from nvidia site?
[07:49] <zack> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:49] <TheHighChild> james_xx: What card are you using?
[07:51] <james_xx> TheHighChild: in this comp, which is now running Mepis because it seems to work, i have a crappy intel extreme graphics II.... on my laptop , i have an ATI radeo M6-P
[07:51] <james_xx> radeon*
[07:51] <TheHighChild> james_xx: You won't get 3d support for your ATI card
[07:51] <james_xx> TheHighChild: please do not suggest that the problem is the chips, i now know better than that
[07:51] <james_xx> TheHighChild: i am sorry, but i had 3D working on it just fine
[07:52] <TheHighChild> james_xx: What driver?
[07:52] <james_xx> TheHighChild: the generic driver
[07:53] <h3sp4wn> less than 9250 ?
[07:53] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: yes, it is an M6-P
[07:53] <h3sp4wn> the support for upto radeon 9600XT is pretty highly experimental
[07:53] <GullyFoyle> hrm lcpci -v shows my nv geForce 6600 and my sblive both on IRQ 3, could that be why i have no sound?
[07:53] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: this is a 4 year old laptop..... it has no 9600xt
[07:54] <james_xx> i am sorry all, i am just frustrated with all of this
[07:54] <h3sp4wn> I don't really know about the laptop cards - But upto r300 has experimental support with x org 7
[07:55] <jjesse> how do i figure out how to mount another hard drive?
[07:55] <james_xx> 3D graphics were working fine until i installed the ATI drivers using easyubuntu
[07:55] <james_xx> on my laptop, that is
[07:55] <a1337> how can i configure my USB micro? i don't even know if it installed
[07:55] <Bernier> hi, when I close my computer , everything goes well except for one thing. when it gets to "will now halt", there's the click sound of the computer when it closes but it doesn't. it stays open and get stuck there until I press the power button. Is there something to do so it closes automatically?
[07:55] <claydoh> ahhh that would be the problem :)
[07:55] <h3sp4wn> That is the problem then the card is told old for fglrx to work well with it
[07:55] <jjesse> remove flgrx
[07:55] <TheHighChild> james_xx: The ATI drivers won't support your card. Uninstall them and try the generic drivers
[07:56] <james_xx> TheHighChild: that is the whole, thing lol... i don't know how to do that. i have tried
[07:56] <TheHighChild> james_xx: ok, I will google and see what I can turn up.
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> That is why easyubuntu is listed as possibly breaking stuff
[07:56] <claydoh> does easyubuntu have any uninstall seatures?
[07:56] <james_xx> all i need to do , is UNDO what i did with easyubuntu
[07:56] <claydoh> features rather
[07:56] <james_xx> claydoh: not that i saw
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> It does
[07:56] <james_xx> it does?
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> (I think(
[07:57] <james_xx> i never saw anything like that on easyubuntu
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> I haven't
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> edit /etc/modules (and change fglrx to radeon)
[07:58] <TheHighChild> james_xx: have you considered changing the driver in your xorg.conf from "fglrx" to "ati"?
[07:58] <james_xx> ok brb i will go to that comp and try it
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and change Driver "fglrx" to Driver "radeon"
[07:58] <james_xx> TheHighChild: i don't know how to do any of this
[07:58] <james_xx> i am an idiot lol
[07:58] <tarmath> hello eveyone. little issue going on with kate opening some binary file types it isnt even associated with when I try to download from konqueror. anyone knows how to fix this annoying behavior?
[07:58] <TheHighChild> james_xx: I can do a walkthrough with you if you're patient
[07:58] <james_xx> TheHighChild: sorry i have been worked up
[07:58] <bulltitan> i have a big problem trying to install nforce drivers for my mobo, appears to be that the only choice in the repos are for nvidia vga cards but i need drivers for my motherboard not vga
[07:58] <james_xx> TheHighChild: let me come back in on my laptop, brb
[07:59] <TheHighChild> james_xx: ok
[07:59] <h3sp4wn> builtitan: they are included in linux-restricted-modules
[07:59] <bulltitan> and i don't know if it is safe to install the one in nvidia's website
[07:59] <bulltitan> ho so they are already in
[07:59] <h3sp4wn> Yes
[07:59] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: Any reason you suggest "radeon" over "ati" for jjames_xx?
[07:59] <bulltitan> is there a wat to see if my hdd is working as sata and not ata?
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: Shouldn't make much difference ati should load radeon automatically
[08:00] <james_xx> TheHighChild: i am sorry, i can't... kubuntu will not come up anymore on my laptop
[08:00] <TheHighChild> james_xx: What is the problem?
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> bulltitan: If it is sata it will be seen as /dev/sdX
[08:01] <bulltitan> :( it is not
[08:01] <gobbe> james_xx, press ctrl-alt-f1 twice and you will get to console
[08:01] <bulltitan> it is sda
[08:01] <h3sp4wn> X meaning any letter from a to z
[08:01] <tarmath> hehe
[08:01] <james_xx> TheHighChild: in trying to figure out what was wrong, i clicked on "proprietary driver" in the display configuration UI
[08:02] <h3sp4wn> bulltitan: It is working as sata
[08:02] <Bernier> hi, when I close my computer , everything goes well except for one thing. when it gets to "will now halt", there's the click sound of the computer when it closes but it doesn't. it stays open and get stuck there until I press the power button. Is there something to do so it closes automatically?
[08:02] <h3sp4wn> bulltitan: Wouldn't work as ata
[08:03] <h3sp4wn> Bernier: Are you using fglrx ?
[08:03] <james_xx> TheHighChild: it is hopeless for me to even mess with kubuntu anymore.... i alwayslose 3D graphics.... i don't like mepis, but that does not happen on mepis
[08:03] <bulltitan> ok then i'll leave nvidia's nforce drivers alone then
[08:03] <TheHighChild> james_xx: It's ok man. It can be fixed
[08:03] <Bernier> h3sp4wn what's that?
[08:03] <h3sp4wn> Bernier: Closed source ati drivers
[08:04] <Bernier> no i have a nvidia card
[08:04] <james_xx> TheHighChild: i appreciate the voluntary support that is offered in here, but tried for 2 months to straighten this out on my desktop, and nothing ever worked
[08:04] <a1337> is there any place where i can configure my USB microphone?
[08:04] <TheHighChild> james_xx: You may want to reconfigure your xserver. You can do that with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' When you do that. Select "ati" as your video driver
[08:04] <h3sp4wn> Bernier: I don't know then (I had a similar problem with my fglrx which I couldn't fix without upgrading to 2.6.16 and installing the fglrx kernel module from source)
[08:05] <Bernier> ok
[08:05] <Bernier> but seriously i think it does that since i've installed my drivers
[08:05] <TheHighChild> james_xx: I'd hate to see you give up man. But that choice is up to you, however, I'll offer the support I can if you decide to stick it out.
[08:06] <james_xx> TheHighChild: i have spent weeks trying to sort this out lol
[08:07] <tarmath> hello eveyone. little issue going on with kate opening some binary file types it isnt even associated with when I try to download from konqueror. anyone knows how to fix this annoying behavior?
[08:07] <TheHighChild> james_xx: It takes some setting up but once you get it you don't usually have to do much to maintain it.
[08:08] <TheHighChild> james_xx: If you want to get me a copy of your xorg.conf, I'd be happy to take a look at it.
[08:08] <james_xx> TheHighChild: most people in here have just insisted that the problem is my video chip.... in fact they have insisted on it, and now i know that isn't true, because it works fine with mepis (i am talking about my desktop here, with an intel video chip)
[08:08] <TheHighChild> zack: How are things on your end?
[08:09] <GullyFoyle> do i need to go into the bios to change IRQ for my soundcard?
[08:09] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Some may have felt that was the case or simply didn't want to hurt their ego by suggesting they didn't know the problem or rather, how to fix it.
[08:10] <james_xx> TheHighChild: ego has seemed to be a big thing, but that is just people lol. glad i have no ego :-))
[08:10] <TheHighChild> james_xx: I can't promise to fix anything but I try and help out where I think I might be able to, if not, I don't pipe up.
[08:11] <TheHighChild> james_xx: at any rate, can you get me a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[08:11] <caciano> des
[08:11] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: I am going to hassle kbrooks to get easyubuntu fixed so it won't install fglrx on old cards
[08:11] <james_xx> TheHighChild: i am not sure,  i can't exactly talk to  you from the laptop anymore, so there would be no cutting and pasting
[08:12] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: That's be great. Not sure why it wouldn't be considered for a production release
[08:12] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Why doesn't the laptop startup?
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: Neither do I
[08:12] <caciano> hola alguien sabe como instalar el amsn para linux
[08:13] <SubNet> Wei jemand von Euch welche Symbole Konqueror in der Seitenleiste (F9) benutzt, um die Ordner anzuzeigen? Gleiche Frage fr den open-Dialog von KDE, welche Ordner da in der Datei-Liste benutzt werden?
[08:13] <james_xx> i am wondering if easyubuntu isn't what has screwed things up on my laptop and desktop both
[08:13] <Trae> not getting any taskbar notifications of events with my gnome applications in KDE
[08:13] <james_xx> SubNet: es gibt nicht viele in diesem raum die dir auf deutsch gut helfen koennen
[08:13] <TheHighChild> james_xx: It's a great App, Automatix as well. But people tend not to read about what packages are installed.
[08:14] <Bazzi> james_xx: easyubuntu was broken for me on dapper
[08:14] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Not that it's anyone's fault but don't put too much trust into anything you initiate with sudo
[08:14] <SubNet> james_xx: ich habs wieder erst gemerkt, als ich schon abgeschickt habe - wollte das auch nach kubuntu-de posten :/
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> trust aptitude and nothing else
[08:14] <james_xx> SubNet: ach so, lol. ich hoff dass sie dir helfen
[08:15] <h3sp4wn> (least problems for me)
[08:15] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Do you get an error with your laptop when you startup?
[08:15] <SubNet> Does anyone know what icons konqui uses to display the Folders in the Sidebar?
[08:15] <james_xx> TheHighChild: well, it just does not load seem to be loading up the desktop anymore
[08:16] <SubNet> Are they from 16x16/filesystems??
[08:16] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Did you recently do a dist-upgrade?
[08:16] <gobbe> james_xx, have you tried ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[08:16] <gobbe> james_xx, i think that your x doesn't want to start now
[08:16] <james_xx> gobbe: brb , iwkll
[08:16] <james_xx> I WILL*
[08:16] <TheHighChild> james_xx: ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to your desktop
[08:17] <gobbe> try to press them 2 or 3 times to get ensure
[08:21] <james_xx> TheHighChild: no, this was a fresh install.... everything was fine until i installed the ati drivers from easyubuntu
[08:21] <james_xx> ok, i did alt+F1 and i am in
[08:21] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Follow me carefully.
[08:21] <james_xx> TheHighChild: this will be hard, because i cannot chat with you from the computer
[08:21] <gobbe> ok, i don't mess up with this anymore, hope you'll get system up and running
[08:21] <james_xx> that*
[08:22] <james_xx> TheHighChild: all i have is the command prompt, no desktop environment
[08:23] <gobbe> you don't need it
[08:23] <james_xx> ok
[08:23] <james_xx> gobbe: i need it to chat, and to cut and paste commands lol
[08:23] <GullyFoyle> why wont dapper recognize my souncard? it worked fine in breezy
[08:24] <TheHighChild> james, press ctrl + alt + f1 to get to your failssafe terminal. Log in there and type 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup'
[08:24] <gobbe> james_xx, commands are easy to write without cut&paste :)
[08:24] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Then type 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'   In there will be a driver section and should have "fglrx" listed as the driver. navigate there with your arrow keys and delete "fglrx" and replace it with "ati" press ctrl + o to save and ctrl + x to quit.
[08:24] <james_xx> gobbe: not if you have to get the commands from a PC in one room, and go enter them in a PC in another
[08:25] <james_xx> TheHighChild: ok, brb
[08:25] <TheHighChild> james_xx: hold on
[08:25] <GullyFoyle> i do lspci -v and it shows my souncard but it's not available in system settings
[08:25] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Make sure you received and noted both messages. The first wasn't addressed to you so it'll be amongst the global
[08:29] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Once you save your xorg.conf, type 'startx' on the command line (maybe 'sudo startx') and see what happens
[08:30] <linuxmonkey> anyone here use NFS? If so can ya help me
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> You may have issues due to the fglrx kernel module being in /etc/modules
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> and hence loaded
[08:31] <james_xx> TheHighChild: it says that it cannot stat... no such file or directory
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: what do you need to know
[08:31] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn:  well its all setup and working but when I transfer any files its so freaking slow (300KB/s) and I got a 100mbit connection between the 2 computers
[08:31] <mythicness> I am trying to install kubuntu from live cd, but when I specify it to use my 35GB ext3 partition it says "Invalid mount point"
[08:32] <GullyFoyle> grrr i'm gonna go back to breezy
[08:32] <mythicness> (I am triple booting on a macbook pro)
[08:32] <mythicness> any ideas?
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: try mounting it using -o nolock
[08:33] <james_xx> TheHighChild: are you still there?
[08:33] <linuxmonkey> it mounted in my fstab so were do I put that
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: are you using nfs-kernel-server or the userspace one
[08:33] <TheHighChild> james_xx: yeah man
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: Do it manually until you know its working properly
[08:33] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: nfs-kernel-server
[08:34] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: it works just slow
[08:34] <james_xx> TheHighChild: it said  that there was no such file or directory
[08:34] <TheHighChild> james_xx: try this "cd /etc/X11/"
[08:35] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: nolock is on the client side?
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: yes
[08:35] <ninHer> hi all
[08:35] <james_xx> TheHighChild: no such file or directory
[08:36] <zack> TheHighChild: well got nvidia drivers in--now now opengl screensaver--but i will get those worked out
[08:36] <TheHighChild> james_xx: That's not right. Are you sure you have the X in X11 capitalized?
[08:36] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: when I add nolock it gives me permission denied
[08:37] <james_xx> TheHighChild: ok there was my problem, brb
[08:37] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: It needs to be run as root or via sudo
[08:37] <linuxmonkey> i know
[08:37] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: you need to unmount it first
[08:37] <zack> TheHighChild: had to wash the cat :)
[08:37] <linuxmonkey> i did
[08:37] <TheHighChild> zack: real cat?
[08:37] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: It does not give permission denied if run as root I know that
[08:38] <TheHighChild> zack: I am glad that is up and working for you man. Keep me posted if you have any trouble
[08:38] <linuxmonkey> grrr my home folder is messing up.. just a sec gonna restart
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> restarting rarely solves anything
[08:38] <james_xx> TheHighChild: ok, i got cd /etc/X11/ to work
[08:39] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn:  in this case it should fix 1 thing
[08:39] <zack> TheHighChild: NP
[08:39] <weedar> !mp3
[08:39] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: If the filesystem is damaged just do sudo init 1
[08:39] <linuxmonkey> my /home is frozen and thats were I mount it under /home/username/server
[08:40] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Ok, type 'sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf-backup' PLEASE make sure you note the spaces and everything
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: do sudo umount /home
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: add nolock to the options part of fstab
[08:41] <GullyFoyle>  "/dev/audio: no such device" huh? lspci -v shows my sblive
[08:42] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: that should make it a bit faster
[08:42] <james_xx> TheHighChild: ok i entered that
[08:43] <ubuntu> hy all
[08:43] <ubuntu> i got a live cd installer problem
[08:43] <ubuntu> who's a admin or someone who can really help me?
[08:44] <CILLY-XUGOZ> c'mon people
[08:44] <TheHighChild> james_xx: Ok, no here comes the fun part. type 'sudo nano xorg.conf' That should open up your xorg.conf in an editor called nano. You can navigate with your arrow keys. In there, go to the driver section and look for 'Driver      "fglrx"' change the "fglrx" to "ati" and press ctrl + o to save and ctrl + x to quit. Then type 'sudo startx'
[08:46] <samuli> or type sudo sed -e 's/"fglrx"/"ati"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf  :)
[08:48] <janssen> Hi all. Quick question: are there Dapper packages for Kdevelop, or not? I've read installation guides for kdevelop which refer to the package "kdevelop3", but apt-get tells me that package doesn't exist. Will I need to install from source?
[08:48] <TheHighChild> janssen: probably need to enable the repos
[08:48] <TheHighChild> janssen: I am seeing it in my apt-cache
[08:50] <xanthine> hi, I'm trying to compile Qt 4, but it's missing the header file /usr/include/GL/gl.h, and I can't find that file in any packages (using "apt-file search gl.h") - any ideas?
[08:50] <h3sp4wn> janssen: Its in universe
[08:50] <TheHighChild> janssen: looks likes it's under KDE in the Universe
[08:50] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: FTW
[08:51] <TheHighChild> james_xx: How are we doing
[08:51] <janssen> TheHighChild: Sorry, I'm new to ubuntu and don't really understand apt-get, so I'm not sure what you mean. Do I need to change my repository settings in adept?
[08:51] <TheHighChild> !repos
[08:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:51] <Mitja> How can I find out which ports are open publicly?
[08:52] <janssen> TheHighChild: (... or apt-get)
[08:52] <TheHighChild> janssen: I'd read those links, They're probably explain better than I will
[08:52] <janssen> sweet, thanks all
[08:52] <james_xx> TheHighChild: i have the desktop back, but it is huge. i tried to change the display settings, but no success yet
[08:52] <james_xx> beb
[08:52] <james_xx> brb*
[08:53] <TheHighChild> james_xx: The GUI is good. I am glad you've made it back. Congratulations to be honest. Most users would have quit when their GUI didn't start. Nice work james.
[08:53] <joh6nn> upgraded to dapper last night, and now i can't play mp3s.  anyone have any ideas?
[08:54] <kronoz> !mp3
[08:54] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:54] <joh6nn> yeah.
[08:54] <ninHer> it is
[08:54] <joh6nn> i know
[08:54] <joh6nn> i upgraded
[08:54] <ninHer> use ogg vorbis instead
[08:54] <kronoz> they cna be played fine :p
[08:54] <joh6nn> kronoz: i didn't say they couldn't, i said it broke after i upgraded
[08:55] <TheHighChild> joh6nn: What app are you trying to play with?
[08:55] <Bazzi> joh6nn: you need to pull libxine-extracodecs now
[08:55] <joh6nn> bazzi: i'll give that a shot, thanks
[08:55] <kronoz> joh6nn, read that page ubotu linked to, it will tell you how to enable mp3/wma/ram/whatever
[08:55] <Bazzi> but if you read that wiki page thoroughly
[08:55] <tarmath> I got an issue going on with kate opening some binary file types it isnt even associated with when I try to download from konqueror, anyone?
[08:56] <joh6nn> Bazzi: i'm used to pointing people to that page
[08:56] <joh6nn> so i thought my question was being misunderstood
[08:56] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: that didnt fix anything same speeds
[08:57] <h3sp4wn> samuli: That sed command is not very safe you are better with perl -pi.bak -e 's/fglrx/radeon/i' /etc/X11/xorg.conf or however you make a backup with sed
[08:57] <joh6nn> Bazzi: Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:58] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: this is me, i am on the laptop, but... everything is GIANT
[08:58] <Bazzi> joh6nn: multiverse then
[08:58] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: and it won't let me change the settingd
[08:58] <james_xxx> settings*
[08:59] <CaBlGuY> Howdy....   I'z back..
[08:59] <Bazzi> joh6nn maybe the upgrade disabled it
[08:59] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: Not sure read about nfs performance tuning sun has some good docs it in the bigadmin part
[08:59] <TheHighChild> james_xxx Let me google a bit. Ask the global chat if they're familiar. I'll check the wiki and forums and see what I can turn up.
[08:59] <linuxmonkey> thanks for the warning CaBlGuY
[08:59] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  anytime buddie..   :p
[08:59] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn:  im gonna ask in ubuntu too
[09:00] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: cross posting is considered inpolite
[09:00] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  U know anything about getting the new 0.12.0 version of kopete??
[09:00] <linuxmonkey> nope CaBlGuY
[09:00] <CaBlGuY> well s00t, what good r ya??   :p
[09:00] <CaBlGuY> *sh00t
[09:01] <CaBlGuY> !building packages
[09:01] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:01] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[09:01] <andred> CaBlGuY: http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/kopete_0.12.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:01] <collins> console switching fails - tty1,5,6 works, tt2-tt4 console garbled linefeeds don't work - any suggestions
[09:01] <CaBlGuY> thanks andred...
[09:01] <TheHighChild> james_xxx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%29
[09:01] <TheHighChild> james_xxx Let me know if you have questions
[09:02] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: i just don't know what to do lol
[09:02] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: has he changed fglrx to radeon in /etc/modules ?
[09:02] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: it acts like i am using a 30 inch monitor
[09:03] <CaBlGuY> :-O   wow!!!   that would b HUGE...
[09:03] <CaBlGuY> :o)  and nice..
[09:03] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: That fglrx kernel module being loaded will mess stuff up
[09:03] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: Either that or easyubuntu doesn't even do that properly
[09:05] <h3sp4wn> I think I would prefer two high quality 19 inch monitors to a 30 inch one
[09:05] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: it's not nice
[09:05] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: I only had him change the fglrx to ati. I don't know anything about the modules, any chance you can help him a bit with that?
[09:05] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx, I know but I'm sayin, if you had a 30" monitor, that would be cool..
[09:07] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: run cat /etc/modules (to see whether fglrx is in there)
[09:08] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: if it is then run 'sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/fglrx/radeon/i' /etc/modules' and restart the machine
[09:09] <joh6nn> Bazzi: thank you, that was it.  kronoz: sorry, i should've read the page.  thanks
[09:11] <christos_> hello
[09:11] <TheHighChild> How are we doing james_xxx
[09:11] <CaBlGuY> thanks again andred... got it all installed.. ;)
[09:12] <andred> CaBlGuY: np
[09:12] <christos_> can anybody help me installing knemo and some other stuff????
[09:13] <gobbe> christos_, sudo apt-get install knemo?
[09:14] <christos_> damn. i'd tried it yeasterday and it didnt work. libc6 was old or sth
[09:14] <christos_> but now it's installed. thnx anyway gobbe
[09:14] <Mitja> Which firewall do you recommend for kubuntu?
[09:14] <TheHighChild> james_xx: How is it going man?
[09:15] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: ok, i have the desktop looking normal again... but no 3D graphics at all
[09:16] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: i try to start planet penguin to test 3D, and it will not even load
[09:16] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: the line is above sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/fglrx/radeon/i' /etc/modules (makes a backup of /etc/modules as well)
[09:17] <TheHighChild> james_xxx: This is the ATI card right?
[09:17] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: yes
[09:17] <TheHighChild> Thanks alot h3sp4wn
[09:18] <TheHighChild> james_xxx: I don't know what to tell you man. I've never heard of 3d working on an ATI card older than a 9200.
[09:18] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: well, i appreciate the help anyways
[09:18] <james_xxx> i am just goingto reinstall
[09:18] <TheHighChild> james_xxx: I have the same problem in my laptop with my 7500
[09:19] <zenithsN00b> I was wondering if festival could be set up to rival the at&t natural voice technology that costs 200 bucks??
[09:19] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: 3D was working fine until i installed the ati driver from easyubuntu
[09:19] <TheHighChild> james_xxx: What driver were you using before?
[09:19] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: open source
[09:19] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: the same one , 'ati'
[09:20] <TheHighChild> james_xxx: and you're positive 3D was working?
[09:20] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: absolutely positive
[09:20] <h3sp4wn> The only reason 3d would not be working is because the fglrx kernel module was being loaded from /etc/modules instead of radeon
[09:21] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: I thought 3d wasn't supported on the old ATI's
[09:21] <james_xxx> TheHighChild: let me ask this... would planet penguin work without 3D?
[09:21] <h3sp4wn> It is if you have the kernel module
[09:22] <h3sp4wn> mesa has accelerated 3d for them
[09:22] <TheHighChild> james_xxx: I have no idea what planet penguin is. Hold on and I'll check
[09:22] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: i installed planet penguin just to see if it would work on here... it did until i ran easyubuntu
[09:23] <GullyFoyle> under kinfocenter it says no soundcard but lspci -v shows my sblive. how do i get dapper to recognize my soundcard?
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> glxinfo should say direct rendering: Yes (if the kernel module is working properly but I expect fglrx's kernel module is being loaded
[09:23] <simp> is there any alternative for photoshop in linux?
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> gimp
[09:23] <Where|here> Hello. Localhost isn't responding to my pings (it worked yesterday, and I didn't do any changes to my system). Does anyone know what might be the problem?
[09:24] <simp> ok i'l give it a try h3sp4wn will sudo apt-get install gimp work fine?
[09:24] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: glxinfo says GLX is missing
[09:24] <TheHighChild> simp gimp and krita are image manipulators. You should be able to 'sudo apt-get install gimp'
[09:25] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: run kdesu kate /etc/modules
[09:25] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: and pastebin the contents of that file
[09:27] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15483
[09:27] <GullyFoyle> i'm gonna try mepis. this "upgrade" to dapper has been a joke.
[09:28] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: You are going to have to use nano again sudo nano /etc/modules
[09:28] <Gentix> I got problems changing the root passwd. 'sudo passwd' root won't work (using fresh dapperinstall)
[09:28] <james_xxx> GullyFoyle: i am running mepis on my desktop
[09:28] <GullyFoyle> hopefully it has better hadware recognition
[09:28] <iNiku> Gentix: won't work, how?
[09:28] <h3sp4wn> GullyFoyle: Kanotix is pretty good
[09:28] <Gentix> iNiku: I simply can't change it
[09:28] <james_xxx> GullyFoyle: it does
[09:28] <iNiku> Gentix: do you get an error message?
[09:29] <Gentix> iNiku: is does absolutely nothing
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> GullyFoyle: Kanotix hardware detection of kanotix is considered to be second to none
[09:29] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: ok i entered that
[09:29] <iNiku> Gentix: um, that makes no sense
[09:29] <iNiku> Gentix: what exactly are you doing?
[09:29] <Gentix> iNiku: asif my user acount has no sudo rughts
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: So whats in the file ?
[09:29] <iNiku> Gentix: if that was the case, you would get an error message
[09:29] <Gentix> iNiku: 'sudo passwd root'
[09:30] <GullyFoyle> h3sp4wn: well everything workedfine under breezy but dapper has screwed many things up
[09:30] <iNiku> Gentix: just 'sudo passwd' will do
[09:30] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: lp, psmouse, sbp2, sr_mod
[09:30] <TheHighChild> Gentix, the first password request after the command will be your sudo password, the second will be the root password
[09:30] <Gentix> iNiku: it askes for a password as it always does for a sudo action wich is a simple enter
[09:30] <Gentix> iNiku: and then nothing
[09:30] <Gentix> iNiku: the same goes for a 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: add radeon to the bottom of it then do control X and yes
[09:31] <Gentix> TheHighChild: I know after giving the simple enter it does nothing
[09:31] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: ok i did that, should i reboot?
[09:31] <iNiku> Gentix: do a 'sudo id'
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: Not yet I have just thought of something
[09:32] <iNiku> Gentix: at the password prompt, enter your user password
[09:32] <james_xxx> ok
[09:32] <TheHighChild> Gentix: By 'does nothing' it doesn't give an error?
[09:32] <Gentix> iNiku: sudo id?
[09:32] <iNiku> Gentix: yes
[09:32] <Gentix> TheHighChild: precise
[09:32] <iNiku> Gentix: can you pastebin what exactly happens when you do that?
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: run sudo aptitude purge xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:33] <Gentix> iNiku: it simply gives no feedback at all
[09:33] <TheHighChild> Gentix, no error is good. If you type a command and there is no output, it means that the command worked fine.
[09:33] <iNiku> TheHighChild: not really, if the command is supposed to output something
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: Then reboot after saying yes (libGL and some other things are replaced when fglrx is installed that should put them back)
[09:33] <iNiku> Gentix: okay, what does id say?
[09:33] <Gentix> TheHighChild: it does nothing! No hd activety no updating no paswd changes
[09:33] <TheHighChild> Gentix: Type 'su' and see what happens
[09:34] <Gentix> ..
[09:34] <Gentix> nevermind
[09:34] <Gentix> Thanx for all the help
[09:34] <benkong2> whoa! here how can this be??
[09:34] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: i'll be back in a sec
[09:34] <iNiku> Gentix: so what was it? :D
[09:34] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: has it being removed ?
[09:34] <iNiku> I'm curious
[09:34] <Gentix> I had it with this thing
[09:34] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: i.e you ran the aptitude command and pressed yes ?
[09:34] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: yes, i think so
[09:35] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: ok it should be ok then
[09:35] <james_xxx> brb
[09:35] <iNiku> Gentix: ah, I thought you figured it out
[09:35] <Gentix> iNiku: the problem is still there. I'm just not going to fix it
[09:35] <Gentix> iNiku: I'll just do it the right way.. REMOVE IT
[09:35] <iNiku> well, whatever...
[09:35] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can run an executable file?
[09:36] <TheHighChild> Ugh.  ARGH!
[09:36] <nocloud> i downloaded an executable file and i have no clue how to run it
[09:36] <benkong2> how can my server be passing out ip addresses like <IP_ADDRESS> subnet of <IP_ADDRESS> with a default gw of <IP_ADDRESS>??? and its working I am on the box now
[09:36] <iNiku> TheHighChild: yeah, pretty frustrating. oh well.
[09:36] <iNiku> TheHighChild: the way I see it, if they do that they didn't deserve the help in the first place
[09:36] <TheHighChild> iNiku: I'm not even 1337. I just try to help when I can. I'll put the time in but I expect anyone who's asking to do the same.
[09:37] <iNiku> nocloud: what exactly did you download?
[09:37] <iNiku> nocloud: how do you know it's executable?
[09:37] <nocloud> vnc viewer enterprise edition
[09:37] <nocloud> konqueror says its an executable file
[09:37] <iNiku> nocloud: well, then you can probably double-click on it in konqueror
[09:38] <nocloud> when i double click on it, it asks me what i want to open it with.....
[09:38] <TheHighChild> Well guys, I'm off work for the evening. Take care. and james_xx Good luck man. I hope it all works out well. Congrats on sticking it out.
[09:39] <iNiku> nocloud: what's the file called?
[09:39] <iNiku> I don't know why konqueror says it's executable but linux software usually isn't distributed as executables
[09:40] <benkong2> anyone??
[09:40] <nocloud> anyone?
[09:40] <benkong2> how can my server be passing out ip addresses like <IP_ADDRESS> subnet of <IP_ADDRESS> with a default gw of <IP_ADDRESS>??? and its working I am on the box now
[09:40] <benkong2> I know it sounds crazy but its what I have
[09:41] <iNiku> benkong2: windows internet connection sharing?
[09:41] <iNiku> or something
[09:41] <mneisen> hello, my adept tells me that the "packaging system database" is locked. What can I do?
[09:41] <benkong2> no I have a gentoo box as a server and dnsmasq passes out ip addresses
[09:42] <iNiku> mneisen: make sure you don't have another package manager running at the same time
[09:42] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: planet penguin, which i have been using to test this, still will not load, so i am assuming the 3D thing is still non-functional
[09:42] <benkong2> iNiku: actually syslog says it gave the box <IP_ADDRESS> as an ip address
[09:42] <mneisen> iNiku: I do not have any other package manager running, I rebooted.
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: what does glxinfo say ?
[09:42] <iNiku> benkong2: okay...
[09:42] <iNiku> benkong2: windows client?
[09:42] <james_xxx> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[09:42] <talljon84> Hey all-  I insalled Dapper on my laptop and it is consistantly using 40%+ CPU usage. It's taking a toll on battery time. I'm not sure how to tell if any given program is doing this. Suggestions?
[09:43] <benkong2> iNiku: no this is a kubuntu fresh install
[09:43] <iNiku> mneisen: then there might be a lock file left behind if a package manager died or you rebooted uncleanly while it was running
[09:43] <iNiku> benkong2: okay, so where did you see the 169 address?
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:44] <benkong2> iNiku: in a terminal when I do an ifconfig and on knemo
[09:44] <benkong2> talljon84: in a terminal try top
[09:44] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: do i sudo nano that?
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: You can do
[09:45] <mneisen> iNiku: What shall I do? I already did "rm /var/lib/dpgk/lock".
[09:45] <talljon84> benkong2: I did that and it shows CPUs at 40% but the highest program in the list is 5%... and those listed done't add up to the total amount.
[09:46] <iNiku> benkong2: um, so ifconfig shows you have an 169 ip address but your dhcp server claims it gave out <IP_ADDRESS>?
[09:46] <iNiku> blah.
[09:46] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:46] <talljon84> iNiku: is it at 169.254 address or something else?
[09:46] <iNiku> talljon84: 169.254 apparently
[09:47] <iNiku> mneisen: if that doesn't help, then I have no idea... sorry
[09:47] <benkong2> sorry my konversation crashed
[09:47] <mneisen> iNiku: thanks anyways.
[09:47] <talljon84> iNiku: 169.254.*.* are self-assigned. DHCP servers don't give those addresses out. A client assigns itself one of those when no DHCP server response was received.
[09:47] <benkong2> iNiku: I missed your last comment
[09:47] <iNiku> talljon84: I know that, except I've never seen a linux system do that, only windows
[09:47] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: how do i copy all of that? there is no place i can select 'select all'
[09:47] <mneisen> iNiku: One more question: what package managers are there, i.e., how do I find them using ps or something similar.
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: the ouput of dpkg-divert --list (may also be useful) as may the output of cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:48] <iNiku> mneisen: um... synaptic, adept, aptitude, apt-get, dpkg
[09:48] <benkong2> I agree also however this one is either telling me the wrong thing from ifconfig and knemo
[09:48] <resmo> hi
[09:48] <talljon84> iNiku: Neither have I... but doesn't mean that someone didn't build support for it into Dapper.
[09:48] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: i think i could save everyone some time by re-installing.
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: the bit we are interested in is Section "Module"
[09:49] <iNiku> talljon84: my dapper box doesn't do it (thank god)
[09:49] <talljon84> haha
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: and everything under that until EndSection
[09:49] <iNiku> benkong2: what is knemo?
[09:49] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: it will not let me copy all of that
[09:50] <benkong2> its a KDE app that monitors network connections...sits in the tray
[09:50] <iNiku> benkong2: ah. well, I would trust ifconfig.
[09:50] <benkong2> iNiku: yes I agree problem is ifconfig says the same thing
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: If just the bits inbetween Section "Module" and EndSection is more than a screenful then there is a very big problem
[09:51] <iNiku> benkong2: okay, pastebin ifconfig -a and netstat -nrv
[09:51] <benkong2> iNiku: ok doing that now
[09:52] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: i would say 3 screens full
[09:52] <james_xxx> at least
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: just between those two lines
[09:53] <iNiku> benkong2: what do you use for configuring your network? /etc/network/interfaces and ifup/down? manual ifconfig? some k thingy?
[09:53] <benkong2> is there something wrong with pastebin? i get this "Query failure: Table 'pastebin.pastebin' doesn't exist"
[09:54] <benkong2> I use /etc/network/interfaces/
[09:54] <iNiku> um... which pastebin?
[09:54] <benkong2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[09:54] <benkong2> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/
[09:54] <benkong2> sorry the second one
[09:54] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15486
[09:54] <iNiku> yeah, that seems to be broken
[09:54] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: i am retarted lol
[09:55] <benkong2> ok I got one hold on please
[09:55] <james_xxx> kubuntu pastebin is not working
[09:55] <iNiku> benkong2: use the ubuntu-nl.org one
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I have backported wpasupplicant from sid (compiled against madwifi-ng not madwifi-old) do you have madwif-ng in your kernel modules under madwifi-ng /lib/modules/xxx/madwifi-ng (how can it be forced to be loaded ?)
[09:56] <earHertz> how do I invoke ksambaplugin (I want to share some directories)
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: add load "glx" to the bottom of that section
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: then run this command 'sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/ati/radeon/i' /etc/X11/xorg.conf' then reboot
[09:58] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: hmm, yeah, I do... so dapper comes with both madwifi-old and madwifi-ng, then?
[09:58] <eliram> i need help regarding wine emulator
[09:58] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: looks like the -ng modules are called new_whatnot
[09:58] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: Looks like it but wpa_supplicant is built against madwifi-old
[09:58] <benkong2> ok here's the info. I sent a screen shot just so you'd know I am for real. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15487
[09:58] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: -Dwext should do the trick, though?
[09:59] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I know that but network manager doesn't seem to like it
[09:59] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: brb
[09:59] <MikeMcA> I have a new installation of kubuntu on my laptop.  My wireless is working fine except that every time I reboot I have to either set the wep key via iwconfig or go into Wireless Assistant, both of which require me to enter a password manually.  I'd like the wireless to just automatically connect on boot - is there a way to set that up?  Thanks
[09:59] <iNiku> benkong2: okay, it works because you have a network route for <IP_ADDRESS> on eth0
[10:00] <benkong2> hmmmm.... I wonder where I did that?
[10:00] <iNiku> benkong2: I have no idea why you're getting an IP like that, though
[10:00] <Bazzi> MikeMcA: I had that problem before, playing with network settings in network manager helped, i.e. reloading it a few times
[10:00] <iNiku> benkong2: can you try an ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0
[10:00] <benkong2> sure
[10:00] <iNiku> and see what the DHCP client outputs
[10:00] <iNiku> pastebin that
[10:00] <eliram> why cant i see wine emulator in the kde menu???
[10:00] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: ahh, right
[10:01] <Bazzi> eliram, it isn't installed into the meni
[10:01] <Bazzi> menu*
[10:01] <eliram> i installed it throu the packege manager
[10:01] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: so have you tried the dapper -ng modules?
[10:01] <MikeMcA> Bazzi: interesting.  I've had to reinstall a couple times because I kept screwing things up and I feel like on an earlier install it did work correctly, so maybe "jiggling the handle" will take care of it.
[10:01] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: or was that what you were asking about?
[10:01] <eliram> how can i run it then?
[10:01] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I don't know how to force them to be loaded (I presume you have to blacklist the old ones somehow)
[10:01] <Bazzi> MikeMcA: I have networking problems on 3 of 4 installs. reloading that damn entwork manager resolved all of the problems... weird thing but whatever.
[10:02] <MikeMcA> Bazzi by network mgr do you mean System Settings -> Network Settings, or the Wireless Assistant
[10:02] <talljon84> With LinEAK installed, it doesn't appear to really accomplish anything. kmix is installed but KMIX_MUTE doesn't work for example. A second package KLineakConfig is nice but there are no "Perform Special Action" to select from. Anyone have experience with this that can help?
[10:02] <Bazzi> the former
[10:02] <MikeMcA> Bazzi, great, thanks.  I'll poke at it some more
[10:03] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: yeah, that's a good question
[10:03] <benkong2> iNiku: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15488 this is really funny it says bound to <IP_ADDRESS> which should be correct
[10:03] <eliram> Bazzi how can i run wine afther installation
[10:03] <eliram> ?
[10:04] <Bazzi> eliram: run winecfg once, and then wine yourprogram.exe
[10:04] <eliram> thanks i will try
[10:04] <benkong2> iNiku: however an ifconfig still gives the <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:04] <Bazzi> eliram: but use the wine repository to get 0.9.14 and dont use the dapper 0.9.9
[10:04] <benkong2> but......I am still using it right now as I type
[10:05] <Bazzi> eliram: if you are familiar with sources.list add "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to it
[10:05] <eliram> ok thank a lot
[10:05] <iNiku> benkong2: that's pretty strange :)
[10:05] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: it didn't work... i am going to reinstall kubuntu
[10:05] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Don't use easyubuntu
[10:06] <benkong2> iNiku:  yes I know
[10:06] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: i won't. i do have another question for you, though
[10:06] <benkong2> this is a fresh install on an amd64 box
[10:06] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: i bought a geforce mmx 4000 for the desktop computer.... how do i install it?
[10:07] <benkong2> this is a dual boot box but that should not have an effect on the card address
[10:07] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: will kubuntu auto-detect it?
[10:07] <TheHighChild> james_xx: How are you doing man? h3sp4wn You really barrel man. I can only hope to find you when I problems ;)
[10:07] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: You will need the nvidia modules to have accelerated 3d
[10:08] <halibut> I had a folder full of pdf files with previews, but a few pdf files didn't have previews because they were over 5MB, so I went to configure konq -> Previews and meta data -> Maximum filesize for preview,  and increased it to 10MB,  now all of my previews have gone :(
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: I don't know anything about mepis - is it an mx 4000 ?
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: I have never heard of that
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: you will need either nvidia or nvidia-legacy depending on which chipset it is based on
[10:09] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: yes, it is an mx 4000
[10:10] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: part of the reason i got this card was to put kubuntu back on this machine
[10:11] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: I would try following the nvidia howto (to install the normal drivers) if that doesn't work try nvidia legacy
[10:11] <iNiku> benkong2: that's the kind of address a windows box will use if it cannot get an address from DHCP
[10:11] <iNiku> kind of an "autoconfigure address"
[10:12] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: so i need to install kubuntu first... then install nvidia drivers.... then install the card.... then hope it works?
[10:12] <iNiku> but I've never seen it on linux before.
[10:12] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: I think that card is based upon geforce 4 mx which is a higher clocked geforce 2 so I am not too sure which to go for
[10:12] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Install the card first
[10:12] <james_xx> ok
[10:12] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: When you install kubuntu it will use nv which is the open source nvidia driver
[10:12] <james_xx> ok great
[10:12] <tuxcicles> anyone but me having problems with the new proprietary ati fglrx driver, I had to install the old one because it doesn't work
[10:13] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: then you will need to switch to the closed source one to have accelerated 3d
[10:13] <h3sp4wn> tuxicles: which one is that ?
[10:14] <james_xx> TheHighChild|Gam  and h3sp4wn, i have appreciated the help. i am not sure why i keep losing 3D graphics, but anyways
[10:14] <tuxcicles> h3sp4wn: the new one that is in dapper and at the ati site - i am using the breezy fglrx now
[10:14] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: can i install nvidia and nvidia leagcy both?? or just one or the other??
[10:14] <TheHighChild|Gam> james_xx: np man. I am not super leet but I'd be happy to help you anytime I can. You kick-arse for sticking it out brother
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: You only need one
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: They conflict with each other
[10:15] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: but being i don't know which one....
[10:15] <james_xx> ok that is what i wanted to know
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: try the normal one if that doesn't work try legacy
[10:15] <james_xx> h3sp4wn: i just bought this card at walmart yesterday.... so should i go with nvidia first?
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: You could try looking at nvidia.com for the specific lists of cards
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: That are supported by each driver
[10:16] <james_xx> ok, thanks again guys
[10:17] <pekuja> does anyone know how I could modify a CD image? I'd basically want to import an ISO image or a CD to K3B, change some files and then burn it onto another CD.
[10:18] <pekuja> it's a bootable CD so I can't just copy the files over because I'd lose the boot image
[10:19] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: the read speed from the NFS is great its just the upload
[10:20] <kalle> need help installing a printer
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: was that the case before also ?
[10:20] <linuxmonkey> probably i never tried copying from it. ftp upload is fast, just NFS and I have no clue why
[10:21] <collins> try again. Kubuntu 6.06 user (onboard since Flight 5 of Dapper). I'm getting garbled consoles when using CTL-ALT-FN to switch. 100% up to date on maintenance.
[10:21] <kalle> i'm new with ubuntu
[10:22] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn:  gonna try async to see if it does a diff
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> hello
[10:25] <kalle> please help me
[10:26] <tiglionabbit> When I try to play certain games, I get this problem: http://rafb.net/paste/results/dregYL54.html
[10:26] <dani> please someone help...i have universe and multiverse installed but i can-t install libxine/extracodecs, whay?
[10:26] <tiglionabbit> oops forget that that user is root.  I just tried that once in case it was a problem with my user account :[
[10:26] <dani> installed/ enabled
[10:27] <oklinux> what is the easiest way to install java ?
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> oklinux: read up on RestrictedFormats
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:27] <kalle> i need help installing a samsung CLP-500, i have a JetDirct 170x
[10:28] <tiglionabbit> dani: you mean libxine-extracodecs ?
[10:28] <tiglionabbit> dani: how are you trying to install it and what is happening?
[10:29] <dani> if i do apt-get install it tells me that it cant find the package but i-vd just installed thru adept, strange
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> dani: you're probably spelling it wrong
[10:31] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: async gives me 40MB/s but then throttles to 12MB/s freezes and then back up
[10:31] <dani> u-r right, becouse i-m doing an instalation for someone with a romanian key map and i-m italian
[10:33] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, i have more questions
[10:33] <james_xx> lol
[10:34] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, i plugged that geforce mx 4000 card in... plugged the monitor into that card.... turned on the computer, and the monitor did not work
[10:35] <h3sp4wn> did you take the old one out
[10:35] <linuxmonkey> Can someone check out http://pastebin.ca/63881 <---its what I get in /var/log/syslog when I first mount a NFS partition.
[10:35] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, it is an integrated video card
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: If you run portmap on your local machine also you should get better performance
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: There will be a bios setting which allows you to set which graphics card is initialised first
[10:36] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: how do I do that?
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: sudo aptitude install portmap
[10:37] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, do i need to unplug the geforce card and reboot, and go into bios?
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> ayabara: don't replace, dual boot
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: It shouldn't do
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Just plug the monitor into the other card
[10:37] <kalle> were can i find information aboute installing networkprinter in ubuntu??
[10:37] <james_xx> ok
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Which one is initialised first will be in a setting somewhere
[10:38] <ayabara> tiglionabbit: had dual boot before, considering to go all the way this time. why not?
[10:38] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Or you can disable the onboard one which may be easiest
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> er, I dunno, but I always find a reason to use windows.  Usually a dumb little game, or photoshop
[10:38] <h3sp4wn> ayabara: May as well - consider a seperate partition for /home if you have a big disk
[10:40] <ayabara> h3sp4wn: laptop with 100gb disk, but the data I need to keep are on a separate partition
[10:41] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, how ould i disable the onboard?
[10:41] <ayabara> tiglionabbit: don't play games, and my girl's got a laptop running xp :-). Last thing that held me in windows was picasa
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Read the motherboard manual or look on the award or ami websites
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: It depends on what bios you have
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> ayabara: Can you not just temporarily copy the data to your girls laptop (it would make things alot easier for you)
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> ayabara: ah.  And they've made a linux build of that now, huh
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> Its written in java (hence why its so slow)
[10:45] <ayabara> h3sp4wn: I don't see any problems at all :-). I will replace xp on a 15gb partition. My data is safely stored on another 85gb partition, and I have an external drive where I can put those data when I convert to ext2/ext3. had two reasons for visiting you guys now. 1. I wonder if I should use ext2 or ext3. 2. I needed to gather some courage...
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> ex3
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> ext3
[10:46] <ayabara> ok. journaling is a good thing then :-)
[10:46] <h3sp4wn> yes
[10:46] <iNiku> hmm. anyone gotten mozplugger to successfully swallow acroread?
[10:46] <h3sp4wn> Its insignificant the performance hit that you take because of journaling
[10:47] <kalle> were can i find information aboute installing networkprinter in ubuntu??
[10:48] <ayabara> ok. don't know too much about it, but I will take your word :-)
[10:49] <h3sp4wn> ayabara: It saves you having to do fsck most of the time
[10:49] <james_xx> man, everything is about bios upgrades... lol
[10:49] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: What make of bios do you have ?
[10:49] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: award / ami / phoenix or something else
[10:50] <james_xx> it says BIOS version A01
[10:50] <h3sp4wn> Ask whoever made the computer sounds like a branded pc
[10:50] <ayabara> btw, is it a problem to have both gnome and kde desktops installed at the same time (I think I mean kubuntu and ubuntu), so I can switch if I want to try ubuntu too?
[10:51] <h3sp4wn> No
[10:51] <Bazzi> ayabara: it will bloat your system
[10:51] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: i heard that async isnt safe to use with nfs but the speeds are incredible when its turned on
[10:51] <Bazzi> other than that, no
[10:51] <ayabara> Bazzi: I was afraid of that...
[10:51] <Bazzi> well once you have decided what you like most, stick with it
[10:51] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: its because it only completes the writes when it can bothered
[10:52] <ayabara> installed ubuntu a couple of times, but the first thing I did was to dl a lot of kde apps I use at work and like (konsole, krusader, konqueror). figured I should try kubuntu this time
[10:52] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn:  so whats it means if the server went down that file would be corrupt?
[10:52] <ayabara> hmm. just realize I'm pretty much sitting here talking about myself...
[10:53] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: The file would quite easily get corrupt anyway
[10:53] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: nfs uses udp by default
[10:53] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: using tcp may make it more reliable
[10:53] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, this computer is a dell dimension, i just bought it 6 weeks ago
[10:53] <linuxmonkey> is there something else I can use to mount a folder on the server to this pc
[10:54] <tominglis> hi is this the right place to come to ask for help for kubuntu 6.06?
[10:54] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: That ge-force is probably a worse card thatn what is already onboard
[10:55] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, lol i bought it becasue i was told to by people in here
[10:55] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: What card is onboard ?
[10:55] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, intel extreme graphics 11
[10:55] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: should I maybe use ftp for the upload and just use the nfs for read only (stream audio from it)
[10:56] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, with linux there is always something wrong with any hardware
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Silicon Graphics sell linux stuff which works pretty well (But it is vastly overpriced)
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Does the board not have a pci express graphics slot ?
[10:57] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, hardware configuration with linux will probably always suck and be limited, but i still like linux
[10:58] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, no, it does not
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: I don't think linux hardware configuration is at all bad these days
[10:58] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, it has improved, but it isn't great
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: ubuntu did everything right you can't blame ubuntu for easyubuntu breaking it
[11:00] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, easyubuntu is not what was messing with the graphics card on this machine, that was my laptop
[11:00] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: I am talking about your general experience with linux hardware detection
[11:00] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, with only pci slots on this board, i am limited in what video card i can install
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Those intel cards have opensource drivers
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: written by intel
[11:01] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, that could be, but any question i have asked in here, the response generally is about hardware not being well supported, my intel extreme graphics 11 being a point in case
[11:02] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, i agree.... people have insisted in here that the inetl card is the problem, and i know that isn't true
[11:02] <james_xx> intel*
[11:02] <h3sp4wn> It may not be configured properly but I would expect support for it to improve soon
[11:02] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, what is your opinion, should i take the nvidia card back out?
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> I wouldn't like to be running a pci video card at all really - I would expect the intel extreme graphics to perform better
[11:04] <h3sp4wn> (thats what the new macbooks have)
[11:04] <nipra> Hi there is a something weird with installer http://nipra.be/bug_or_what/
[11:04] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, so far mepis has worked well with this card, and maybe staying with mepis is the answer. i bought this card hoping it would allow me to switch back to kubuntu
[11:04] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Do you have accelerated 3d in mepis ?
[11:05] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, yes
[11:05] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: You could copy xorg.conf from mepis and try running that on kubuntu
[11:05] <james_xx> hmmm
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: So the kubuntu live cd definately doesn't have accelerated 3d ?
[11:06] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, i think i just needed to learn a lot more about linux before i ever started messing with it
[11:06] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, no no no
[11:07] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, the 3D graphics DO work with kubuntu ... at first
[11:07] <h3sp4wn> I can't see how it can be changed
[11:07] <h3sp4wn> File a bug about it if it happens again
[11:08] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, but after i configure everything the first few days , the 3D graphics quit working... no matter what most people in this room have said, there is a software conflict somewhere
[11:08] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, the thing is , it happened on my desktop with an intel card, and it happened on my laptop with an ATI card
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: The laptop is entirely down to easyubuntu
[11:09] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, and i have spoken with others in here who have had these issues
[11:09] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, i think that is true.....
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Ask dell how to get it so you can use the nvidia card if you want to use it
[11:10] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, but i am not sure that is the case with my desktop... what is worse is that it leads to a reinstall because the damage cannot be undone (by me at least)
[11:11] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, i guess i will, although you are suggesting that changing the card is somewhat pointless
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> The card is very old
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> (with it being pci)
[11:12] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, i bought this desktop SOLELY for the purpose of learning about linux, so it is no loss... i just want to figure this stuff out lol
[11:13] <travis|linux> anyone know how to install xchat in kubuntu ?
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: Nothing is pointless if you learn stuff from it
[11:13] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, i figured that this card was old, and maybe it is, but there were 2 cards being sold at the local walmart , and they were both PCI..... and, even though this desktop is brand new , PCI is the only option. there are no AGP or PCI-E cards
[11:14] <james_xx> h3sp4wn, no, and this is definitely a learning experience :-D
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> james_xx: You could try just keeping it in and running two screens
[11:14] <james_xx> hmmm
[11:15] <james_xx> that could be neat
[11:15] <h3sp4wn> It is complicated though there are no automatic tools that would do that for you I don't think
[11:15] <chavo> travis|linux, sudo apt-get install xchat
[11:16] <travis|linux> chavo: E: Couldn't find package xchat  -- the error I get
[11:17] <crimsun_> travis|linux: xchat is in universe.
[11:17] <chavo> !repos
[11:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:17] <travis|linux> ahhh.. thank you
[11:18] <chavo> travis|linux, you have to enable the universe repo
[11:18] <travis|linux> see that now :)
[11:18] <travis|linux> thanks
[11:18] <chavo> travis|linux, xchat-gnome is now the default
[11:18] <travis|linux> I want the regular xchat
[11:18] <Lunar_Raven> o.o question: where is the settings for popup blocking in konqeuror
[11:18] <chavo> travis|linux, you running kde?
[11:19] <Armagguedes> en taru adun
[11:20] <Armagguedes> how can i tell if a problem i have is kubuntu or kde related?
[11:27] <travis|linux> chavo: yes.. running kde
[11:27] <travis|linux> chavo: I just got xchat installed
[11:28] <travis|linux> I was have been using mandriva for about 2 yrs
[11:28] <travis|linux> this is the first distro I have tried other than mandriva
[11:28] <chavo> travis|linux, I was just wondering if you had tried konversation
[11:28] <kronoz> is nvidia-glx available for 64bit?
[11:28] <kronoz> and64
[11:28] <kronoz> *amd64
[11:29] <travis|linux> chavo: yea.. I'm using that now.. its alright
[11:29] <apokryphos> kronoz: of course, yes.
[11:30] <slow-motion> n8
[11:30] <kronoz> where..
[11:31] <apokryphos> kronoz: what? In the same place of course
[11:34] <kronoz> !paste
[11:34] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:36] <kronoz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15490
[11:38] <apokryphos> kronoz: you don't have restricted enabled
[11:39] <apokryphos> !sources.list
[11:39] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:39] <Armagguedes> does anyone here have a problem with the keyboard? for some reason (and i don't know what's causing this, ie, cant really replicate it) after a while of uptime my keyboard ceases to respond. i have to reboot via mouse>k menu>logout>reboot
[11:40] <Blissex> Armagguedes: unplug it and plug it in. Plenty of keyboards are buggy and need to be reset sometimes.
[11:40] <Armagguedes> Blissex laptop
[11:40] <Armagguedes> the plug is welded =)
[11:40] <Blissex> Armagguedes: bad news :-).
[11:41] <Armagguedes> when this happens, openoffice writer is open, but then again, it is open most of the time
[11:41] <Blissex> Armagguedes: however thanks a lot for the copious context provided... Our telepathic advisors unfortunately are all busy on other lines, wait until they call you back.
[11:42] <halibut> I had a folder full of pdf files with previews, but a few pdf files didn't have previews because they were over 5MB, so I went to configure konq -> Previews and meta data -> Maximum filesize for preview,  and increased it to 10MB,  now all of my previews have gone :(
[11:42] <Blissex> Armagguedes: as there can be dozens of potential causes, like you running some odd driver (e.g. NVIDIA/ATI), program bugs, bugs in the laptop chipset, etc.
[11:43] <Blissex> Armagguedes: check the 'dmesg' or kernel log for kernel problems...
[11:44] <kronoz> !nvidia
[11:44] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:44] <kronoz> thanks apokryphos
[11:48] <Slappy> !ati
[11:48] <ubotu> [ati]  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[11:52] <sdolnack> anyone run wine?
[11:53] <sdolnack> i'm wondering if it's better to install the latest version, or to build a CVS myself
[11:54] <transgaming> hi
[11:56] <sdolnack> hi
[11:56] <transgaming> may anyone tell me why i can't install any deb file in my ubuntu system, always something is missing
[11:57] <sdolnack> what are you trying to install
[11:57] <transgaming> i'll try to install xmms
[11:57] <transgaming> try to install kppp
[11:57] <Armagguedes> damna
[11:57] <Armagguedes> is this correct: sudo chmod 757 /opt/
[11:57] <sdolnack> what happens when you try to install it
[11:57] <transgaming> but always it's need some other file
[11:58] <sdolnack> how are you installing
[11:58] <sdolnack> through adept/synaptic, or command line?
[11:58] <transgaming> double click on the file
[11:59] <sdolnack> ahh
[11:59] <transgaming> :O
[11:59] <sdolnack> to install things in Linux, you generally downlaod the program from a repository
[11:59] <claydoh> transgaming: use adept to search and install xmms, it will installl all the missing bits
[11:59] <sdolnack> via a packet manager (Adept for Kubuntu and Synaptic for Ubuntu)
[12:00] <sdolnack> yeah--what claydoh said
[12:00] <claydoh> heh
[12:00] <sdolnack> claydoh-ever used a wine alpha build?
[12:00] <kronoz> !flash
[12:00] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:00] <claydoh> not in a while
[12:00] <claydoh> I do toy with whatever is the current release atm
[12:01] <sdolnack> i'm wond'ring whether wine'll work better if i use the current stable release or the dev releas
[12:01] <transgaming> and i can't run alien
[12:01] <sdolnack> what's alien?
[12:01] <transgaming> i mean to program alien
[12:01] <transgaming> :)
[12:01] <claydoh> aliien converts rpm to deb
[12:01] <transgaming> yes
[12:01] <sdolnack> we have a program like that??
[12:01] <transgaming> what program?
[12:02] <sdolnack> how's it work
[12:02] <sdolnack> alien
[12:02] <claydoh> ya, but it is hit or miss on if it works
[12:02] <sdolnack> ahh nv
[12:02] <sdolnack> m
[12:03] <claydoh> sdolnack: well as the latest version of wine was out this past week, any cvs version will be pretty close to that for a bit