[05:08] <gwildor> dm-madman, one is the compiled binary, the other is the soruce
[05:08] <aleron6> on intrepid it was good
[05:08] <LucidGuy> I can't wait for Karmic .. my recent upgrade from intrepid to jaunty has made my system unstable and junky.  Full install always from this point forward.
[05:08] <n8tuser> medstudent -> a new install? you may as well re-install
[05:08] <mezquitale> TK_, someone from the community helped me as well, if you learn something feel free to share the knowledge and help someone else
[05:08] <SpacePigeon> can somebody tell me which packages do i have to download to compile gnome 2.28 candidate release?
[05:08] <TK_> Will do
[05:08] <medstudent> should I try the alternate CD?
[05:09] <medstudent> what does that have?
[05:09] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: build-essential will have the tools you need to compile
[05:09] <TK_> this community is great, it's the least I can do
[05:09] <n8tuser> medstudent -> yes, and please learn to respond with the nick of the person you are chatting with,
[05:09] <medstudent> n8tuser ok
[05:09] <stranger_in> hello....... i want to enable mac filtering in squid proxy.... to this we have to compile squid like this "./configure --enable-arp-acl"........... how can i install this via synaptic
[05:09] <IdleOne> medstudent: alternate is a text install that install ubuntu gnome
[05:10] <medstudent> IdleOne so it installs the same version Ubuntu. No differences?
[05:10] <IdleOne> yup
[05:11] <Guest59043> where is a good place to learn the basics of linux?  for instance i was trying to edit a file in a protected folder but since i was not logged in as root it would not let me and i cannot log in as root.
[05:12] <biovore> Guest59043: on ubuntu.. use sudo
[05:12] <biovore> !sudo
[05:12] <medstudent> IdleOne I'm downloading the 9.04 alternate CD installer now
[05:12] <Guest59043> thanks
[05:12] <n8tuser> Guest59043 -> also you can google for intro do linux and you'd find several tutorials
[05:12] <IdleOne> medstudent: let's hope this works
[05:13] <ikey> Howdy do.
[05:13] <TK_> ^whyseaphor
[05:13] <TK_> -_-
[05:13] <Linux-idiot> sudo is the bees knees
[05:13]  * ikey prefers su -c
[05:13] <medstudent> IdleOne: yeah, I'm hoping. I'm enjoying my new Comcast download speed. Getting 1.5 MB/sec now.
[05:13] <Jorsher> ahhhhhh getfacl -R / > permissions.acl; setfacl --restore-permissions.acl just saved me from needing a reinstall :)
[05:14] <Guest59043> now back to my last question how do i get vpn running on ubuntu linux.  i have used the windows cisco pcf file (imported) to configure the network manager.  i apologize if this was answered already i did not see the answer.
[05:14] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, which package should i install?
[05:14] <IdleOne> build-essential
[05:14] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, sudo apt-get install build-essential (gnome-2.28?)
[05:14] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:15] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: wait
[05:15] <SpacePigeon> i see..
[05:15] <IdleOne> you want to compile gnome correct?
[05:15] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, yes, gnome 2.28
[05:15] <Dominik1> how can I tell ubuntu to check all drives on next booot?
[05:15] <IdleOne> ok are you getting compile errors?
[05:15] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, (do you recommend it? could i switch back to repos version?)
[05:16] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, no, I just don't know what to download/compile
[05:16] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: i stick to default
[05:16] <__lupo__> hi all, does anybody has any tip to make hibernate on ubuntu work fine?
[05:16] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, yeah, just want to try it out
[05:16] <legend2440> Dominik1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[05:16] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, clutter and all
[05:16] <Dominik1> legend2440: thanks
[05:16] <dm-madman> how would i go about making a mirror of these ubuntu repositories
[05:17] <ikey> o_O
[05:17] <dm-madman> can they be rsync'd?
[05:17] <ikey> wget -r archives.ubuntu.com ?
[05:17] <dm-madman> ikey: i tried doing this with parts of it, and had some peculiar results
[05:17] <KB1JWQ> Then wait a while. :-)
[05:17] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: 2.28 wont be released till Sep 28
[05:17] <ikey> i bet. lol
[05:17] <ikey> xD
[05:18] <IdleOne> 23
[05:18] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, but there is a candidate release
[05:18] <dm-madman> ikey: lots of files, and 'find . -iname *.deb' shows not a thing
[05:18] <Dominik1> where will fsck report errors?
[05:18] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, Ill link you to it
[05:18] <dm-madman> err, i did -name actually
[05:18] <Dominik1> and how long will the disk check take on about 400 gigs?
[05:18] <ikey> Can someone tell me what kernel version is default in the Jaunty installs?
[05:18] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.devel.announce/52
[05:19] <mezquitale> Dominik1, as it's running it will report any errors it finds
[05:19] <IdleOne> 2.6.28
[05:19] <ikey> oh ok :(
[05:19] <ikey> Linux silver 2.6.31-rc9-ikey #1 SMP Mon Sep 7 23:11:45 BST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:19] <Dominik1> mezquitale: so I have to watch it ? : (
[05:19] <mezquitale> Dominik1, yes and it all depends on whether or not there are any errors on the hard drive, if there's no errors it shouldnt take that long
[05:20] <Jorsher> should "dpkg-reconfigure hal" disconnect me from a remote server/
[05:20] <t0s> whats the command to reset gnome panel to original?
[05:20] <Dominik1> mezquitale: bummer, will it ever prompt me for input (in case of an error), meaning can I go take get a beer or will I miss curical info?
[05:20] <Guest59043> thanks for all the help.
[05:20] <SeaPhor> Jorsher, um, prolly
[05:20] <dm-madman> i'll try wgeting http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ again, that seems to be where most of the debs are
[05:21] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: over my head but I know if your going to be compiling your going to need the build-essential package
[05:21] <Logomachist> Mez if you can remember any more specifics that would really help. Google isn't turning up anything useful. :(
[05:21] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, indeed -- newest version installed.
[05:22] <mezquitale> Dominik1, you can run fsck and go get a beer, read this: http://kenneth-kin-lum.blogspot.com/2009/05/simple-guide-to-use-fsck-on-ubuntu.html
[05:22] <Dominik1> mezquitale: thanks
[05:23] <LucidGuy> Has anyone tried/purchased a Ubuntu Dell Mini 10v  (8.04 preloaded from Dell) ?
[05:23] <ikey> not me
[05:23] <t0s> !gnome-panel
[05:23] <ikey> lol.....
[05:23] <ikey> neither do any of us xD
[05:23] <Dominik1> :Q
[05:23] <ikey> its kinda temperamental
[05:23] <ikey> oh he left.
[05:24] <LucidGuy> Is Karmic Koala safe yet at alpha 5
[05:24] <IdleOne> !karmic
[05:24] <ikey> lol @ WILL break... might join.
[05:25] <LucidGuy> !karmic
[05:25] <LucidGuy> !pot
[05:25] <ikey> o_O
[05:25] <robysath> I have ubuntu server 9.04 installed. How can I get audio to work? i.e. flash movies are playing in firefox but no output from soundcard
[05:25] <LucidGuy> !breasts
[05:26] <Linux-idiot> haha
[05:26] <jcm99> Man if Karmic Koala could come out on the 28th of Oct I would have a good birthday
[05:26] <SpacePigeon> lol
[05:26] <SpacePigeon> yeah
[05:26] <SpacePigeon> it wouldn't be on my birthday but it would make oct 28th a nice day indeed
[05:27] <jcm99> :) yep, but guess I get a belated bday gift
[05:27] <mezquitale> Logomachist, so you don't have a panel at all right now?
[05:27] <Logomachist> That is correct.
[05:28] <ikey> ALT+F2 : gnome-panel
[05:28] <SpacePigeon> ALT+F2 is from gnome-panel
[05:28] <ikey> ok so that'll fail...
[05:28] <SpacePigeon> yeah haha
[05:28] <ikey> xD
[05:29] <SpacePigeon> Logomachist, you have no hotkey for terminal?
[05:29] <mezquitale> Logomachist, when you click on ALT-F2, you dont get a window where you can put in a command?
[05:29] <polk330> ALT-F4 from a windows machine on this chat!
[05:29] <SpacePigeon> I assigned super+T to terminal like a long time ago
[05:29] <polk330> lmao
[05:29] <Logomachist> ctrl + alt + F1 works. alt + F2 doesn't.
[05:29] <IdleOne> !ot > polk330
[05:29]  * ikey always used OpenBox so no probems there :)
[05:29] <polk330> haha IdleOne I was jk.
[05:30] <lookyaso> hi all, i created a LAMP and have setup port forwarding and am using dyndns open port tool for ports 80  21 22 ... and it is timing out.  i have seen multiple threads on this issue but no resolution
[05:30] <IdleOne> polk330: bad joke
[05:30] <manword34> downloading Ubuntu by torrent is secure ? and how they can know if available distribution on torrnt is the original ?
[05:31] <IdleOne> !md5 | manword34
[05:31] <SpacePigeon> manword34, get the torrent from the ubuntu sitte
[05:31] <mezquitale> Logomachist, go to to a console and type metacity --replace
[05:31] <dm-madman> manword34: should be able to check it with md5sum or something
[05:31] <Logomachist> Did that earlier. No dice.
[05:31] <Flannel> manword34: Torrents are checked by the client as they're downloaded (to verify it matches what the .torrent thinks), grab the .torrent from ubuntu.com and you'll be fine.  If you're worried, MD5 the resulting iso.
[05:31] <manword34> SpacePigeon ubottu thank you !
[05:32] <mezquitale> manword34, yes, it is secure, you can check by using a checksum
[05:32] <IdleOne> ikey: why do you /notice me? and if the bot has the answer why should I not use it
[05:32] <mezquitale> Logomachist, boot up in falsafe and try it again
[05:32] <ikey> IdleOne, Because I was keeping it out of the channel so as to not stray off topic.
[05:32] <Logomachist> kk
[05:33] <asdfadfs> Damnit
[05:33] <IdleOne> ikey: my answer is still valid
[05:33] <ikey> I know :) I keep bots too.
[05:33] <asdfadfs> Why does my ubuntu login screen freeze when I enter my password?
[05:33] <asdfadfs> I can still use my mouse
[05:34] <asdfadfs> but the ubuntu won't start up
[05:34] <asdfadfs> I tried changing the sessions
[05:34] <asdfadfs> ugh
[05:34] <asdfadfs> i dont know what to do?
[05:35] <KB1JWQ> asdfadfs: Does it unfreeze?
[05:36] <skel> asdfadfs: whats the deal?
[05:36] <IdleOne> ikey: may I message you?
[05:36] <ikey> IdleOne, sure :)
[05:37] <Logomachist> Mezquitale: I get "Window Manager Error: Unable to open X display"
[05:38] <mezquitale> Logomachist, were getting somewhere, backup your xorg.conf and reconfigure your xserver:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:39] <Logomachist> Where is xorg.conf?
[05:39] <asdfadfs> it doesn't unfreeze
[05:39] <asdfadfs> it just sits there
[05:39] <asdfadfs> i tried changing sessions
[05:39] <asdfadfs> ugh
[05:39] <mezquitale> /etc/X11
[05:39] <asdfadfs> It just freezes once i input my pw
[05:40] <skel> asdfadfs: whats going on?
[05:40] <asdfadfs> hey skel
[05:40] <asdfadfs> Okay
[05:40] <asdfadfs> I start ubuntu
[05:40] <asdfadfs> and once i hit the login screen
[05:40] <asdfadfs> i input my username
[05:40] <asdfadfs> then i input my password
[05:40] <asdfadfs> and once i input my pw, it just freezes
[05:40] <asdfadfs> i can move my mouse
[05:40] <skel> asdfadfs: backup your .gnome and .gconf dirs, then blow them away and /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:41] <asdfadfs> restart, shut down, change the session etc
[05:41] <asdfadfs> skel how would i do that
[05:41] <asdfadfs> i'm a linux n00b
[05:41] <FloodBot1> asdfadfs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <skel> asdfadfs: in a terminal cd ~
[05:41] <skel> asdfadfs: then mv .gnome .gnome-bak
[05:42] <skel> asdfadfs: same with anything named .gconf
[05:42] <skel> asdfadfs: the rm -rf .gnome .gconf*
[05:42] <skel> asdfadfs: then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:42] <medstudent> IdleOne you still around?
[05:42] <skel> asdfadfs: if that works, something got borked in your desktop manager settings
[05:43] <asdfadfs> alright
[05:43] <asdfadfs> skel: imma try that
[05:43] <asdfadfs> if it doesn't work, thanks for helping
[05:43] <asdfadfs> :D
[05:43] <skel> asdfadfs: in which case, I'd go into each of those backups and do ls -lart | and look at the last things modified (bottom of listing)
[05:43] <skel> asdfadfs: and see what changed
[05:43] <asdfadfs> k
[05:43] <skel> asdfadfs: if you don't care about redoing your desktop settings, then just blow em away
[05:43] <Logomachist> Mezquitale: "use kernal framebuffer device interface?
[05:43] <Logomachist> "
[05:44] <IdleOne> medstudent: I might be
[05:44] <nullren> anyone using a macbook with external monitor? i want to know how to run in clamshell mode
[05:44] <medstudent> IdleOne which partitioning method should I choose?
[05:44] <mezquitale> Logomachist, I dont know what that is about but usually if you choose the defaults you should be good
[05:45] <skel> nullren: I used to on my old ibook
[05:45] <socratees> Hello everyone, I'm using karmic koala and did some s/w upgrades .. and my desktop panels have disappeared completely. any directions?
[05:45] <skel> nullren: there was some ati util
[05:45] <fccf> nullren: that would depend on your video hardware
[05:45] <mezquitale> nullren, what's a "macbook"???
[05:45] <SeaPhor> medstudent, are you dual-booting?
[05:45] <medstudent> SeaPhor no, just a straight Ubuntu install
[05:45] <IdleOne> medstudent: / 10Gig /swap 1Gig /home the rest
[05:45] <medstudent> "use entire disk" or "use entire disk and set up LVM"
[05:46] <DougM> does anyone know of a good C++ compiler for Ubuntu? I have never programed on Linux before.
[05:46] <SeaPhor> medstudent, then guided use entire disk
[05:46] <skel> DougM: sudo apt-get install g++
[05:46] <IdleOne> use entire disk medstudent
[05:46] <medstudent> thanks
[05:46] <DougM> skel: cool thanks a lot
[05:46] <fccf> !karmic |socratees
[05:46] <skel> DougM: np
[05:46] <nullren> fccf: skel: i didn't see anything obvious in the nvidia settings
[05:46] <nullren> is there another generic term for "clamshell" mode?
[05:46] <fccf> clamshell? what effect is that
[05:46] <socratees> ubottu: thanks
[05:47] <medstudent> SeaPhor IdleOne I'm doing the alternate CD install. At what point do I need to step in and make changes so this will work (vs the GUI install)
[05:47] <nullren> closing my laptop and running the screen on an external monitor
[05:47] <mezquitale> socratees, Logomachist is having the same problem, try this thread first: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156602
[05:47] <skel> nullren: mine was real old, g3 600 dual usb, so it may not apply if you've got an intel based
[05:48] <IdleOne> medstudent: from what I read earlier your issues was xserver. hopefully you wont have to do anything but supply username and password
[05:48] <medstudent> IdleOne so how will this install be different than the last?
[05:48] <SeaPhor> medstudent, you should be fine with defaults, but if you have questions you can ask at that point
[05:48] <asdfadfs> medstudent what med school u attend?
[05:48] <IdleOne> medstudent: new release ( supports your hardware better )
[05:49] <IdleOne> we hope :)
[05:49] <medstudent> so will it ask if I want to configure xserver?
[05:49] <medstudent> asdfadfs Vanderbilt
[05:49] <medstudent> asdfadfs: you in med school too?
[05:49] <asdfadfs> nope
[05:49] <asdfadfs> i was just curious
[05:49] <skel> medstudent: I just shutdown gdm and then from a console to sudo X -configure
[05:49] <Dominik1> is it safe to check the disks through gparted? it gives me warnings about loss of data
[05:50] <skel> medstudent: and drop that config in /etc/X11
[05:50] <skel> medstudent: works 90% of the time
[05:50] <medstudent> skel: you lost me
[05:50]  * asdfadfs nominates skel for +o in this channel
[05:50] <mezquitale> medstudent, were all curious, asdfadfs is the only noob with the innocence to ask
[05:50] <asdfadfs> hey
[05:50] <medstudent> mezquitale haha
[05:50] <asdfadfs> lol
[05:50] <asdfadfs> i am a noob
[05:50] <skel> medstudent: X -configure is a command that probes your hardware and generates an x.config.new in your cwd
[05:50] <asdfadfs> i don't care
[05:50] <medstudent> yeah I am not very creative with usernames
[05:50] <asdfadfs> only way people can get smart is by asking stupid questions
[05:51] <medstudent> skeL: so something I would run later after install then?
[05:51] <mezquitale> asdfadfs++
[05:51] <lost12> I have a bunch of stupid ones then.
[05:51] <asdfadfs> hahah
[05:51] <SeaPhor> IdleOne, mezquitale medstudent you're on a MAC, right?
[05:51] <mezquitale> !ask | lost12
[05:51] <medstudent> yes I am
[05:51] <IdleOne> medstudent: but installing to pc?
[05:52] <SeaPhor> IdleOne, mezquitale medstudent just so we're all on same page
[05:52] <medstudent> yes I'm on a Mac on IRC and installing to an old Dell
[05:52] <Logomachist> Mezquitale: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't seem to do anything.
[05:52] <skel> medstudent: sorry, I thought you were having trouble with configuration on a current linux setup
[05:52] <IdleOne> medstudent: ok
[05:52] <medstudent> skel: never made it that far. hopefully this will work. thanks.
[05:52] <lost12> I have a wmp54G Wireless card by Linksys will that work with ubuntu?
[05:52] <skel> medstudent: gl :)
[05:53] <mezquitale> Logomachist, you want to talk to a guru, you have to come back when someone like DrWillis is around
[05:53] <dm-madman> dm-madman: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[05:53] <medstudent> skel: thanks. this is my foray into Linux. I hope I like it. If so, I'm going to dump Mac too and just get a spec'd out PC and put Ubuntu on it :)
[05:53] <SeaPhor> lost12, is that the usb? i never got mine working but that was in 8.04
[05:53] <dm-madman> dm-madman: oh, thanks! i knew you guys would help me out!!
[05:53] <skel> medstudent: I went the other way for my home setup :-P
[05:53] <Logomachist> Socratees: If we're having the same problem, email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>This way if either of us figure out the solution we can let the other know what it is.
[05:54] <skel> medstudent: @ work I use Ubuntu and @ home I use OSX
[05:54] <medstudent> skel: yeah it will be hard to leave OS X. Works so well.
[05:54] <socratees> logomachist: yeah i can do that.
[05:54] <skel> medstudent: just because of the app availability
[05:54] <mezquitale> medstudent, if you have a mac why dont you try installing linux on it?  Running linux on my desktop wasn't easy, I had to try 8.04, jaunty, my machine seems to like 8.10
[05:55] <skel> medstudent: www.virtualbox.org is a free vmware like software that you can use to run linux inside mac fyi
[05:55] <mezquitale> Logomachist, sounds like your bug and socratees bug should be sent in to the developers
[05:55] <fccf> medstudent: you can also run ubuntu in parallels
[05:55] <medstudent> mezquitale: my macbook is very stable. I don't want to mess with it and HD space is a premium even on my 160 GB HD. So I am giving it a go on an old PC first
[05:56] <medstudent> skel: I have Fusion for Windows already
[05:56] <medstudent> I guess I could throw Ubuntu on there too
[05:56] <skel> medstudent: ah cool
[05:56] <mezquitale> medstudent, that is a very good idea
[05:56] <dm-madman> rsync: opendir "pool/main/k/kde4bindings/.~tmp~" (in ubuntu) failed: Permission denied (13) <-- wtf?
[05:56] <socratees> mezquitale: I'm getting an 404 errors from the servers on my sources.list when i try to upgrade
[05:56] <medstudent> should I encrypt my home directory?
[05:56] <fccf> medstudent: I run an 8 Gb virtualbox ubuntu on my laptop ... not huge
[05:56] <skel> asdfadfs: did that work for you?
[05:56] <medstudent> any reason not to?
[05:57] <skel> medstudent: speed mostly
[05:57] <mezquitale> socratees, sounds like those servers are no more or youre not connected to the internet
[05:57] <skel> medstudent: depends on what you'll be accessing in there
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> paranoia about someone stealing your machine :)
[05:57] <medstudent> probably nothing needing encrypting
[05:57] <skel> medstudent: for light / medium usage its probably no big deal
[05:57] <skel> if you stuck a mysql db or something in your home dir
[05:57] <skel> that'd suck a bit
[05:57] <mezquitale> medstudent, on a laptop I suggest you encrypt your home directory, on your desktop don't encrypt your home directory unless you have material you dont want the FBI, CIA, NSA, and the FDA to see
[05:58] <medstudent> mezquitale: ok thanks
[05:58] <medstudent> so far so good
[05:58] <skel> mezquitale: lol FDA?
[05:58] <dm-madman> oh, well it appears to be syncing anyway, so nvm
[05:58] <IdleOne> FDA? what does the food and drug administration want with your pc mezquitale ?
[05:58] <SeaPhor> you left out CPS
[05:58] <mezquitale> Logomachist, your luck just got better Dr_Willis is in the house
[05:59] <shachaf> Hmm. A friend is moving /home to a separate partition after having initially installed everything in /. Is there some easy Ubuntu-y way of doing it, or does it need to be done manually? (Editing fstab and moving the files and such)
[05:59] <mezquitale> skel, he's a medstudent, he knows what I'm talking about, willis
[05:59] <SeaPhor> shachaf, yes
[05:59] <IdleOne> !home
[05:59] <skel> shachaf: the cheap / lazy way is just to create a symlink to the new directory after mv it
[06:00] <zebaztian> what's app can i  use to switch wav to mp3?
[06:00] <skel> zebaztian: lame I think
[06:00] <shachaf> zebaztian: LAME?
[06:00] <dm-madman> shachaf: uhhh, what's hard about adding a line to fstab and moving the files?
[06:00] <SeaPhor> !home | shachaf
[06:00] <shachaf> dm-madman: Nothing, but I'm helping someone through this over IM.
[06:00] <shachaf> dm-madman: Which makes everything more complex.
[06:00] <zebaztian> shachaf, lame?
[06:00] <dm-madman> shachaf: just tell them all 3 commands ffs
[06:01] <zebaztian> sudo aptitude install LAME ?
[06:01] <SeaPhor> shachaf, and if you want to do from initial install i can show you that as well
[06:01] <shachaf> dm-madman: Yes, yes. What about the UUID=... line in fstab? I've never figured that part out.
[06:01] <Logomachist> Hello Dr_Willis. :) I'm told you're the resident guru?
[06:01] <shachaf> SeaPhor: From initial install is easy. :-) It's what I've always done.
[06:01] <Logomachist> I have a problem. After logging in, the desktop comes up but without the menu bar. I have a mouse cursor, and I have wallpaper and  ctrl + alt + delete works. The "Help" button on the "restart the computer" menu brings up the help window but without the title bar. But that's all I can get to. Alt + F2 doesn't work. Has anyone else run into anything like this?
[06:01] <dm-madman> shachaf: what about it?
[06:01] <fccf> medstudent: just password protection and only drs. and drs. employees allowed data access, w/o patient consent, or medical necessity
[06:02] <zebaztian> shachaf, couldn't find packages lame
[06:02] <shachaf> dm-madman: What would he add? "/dev/sda4" or some UUID line?
[06:02] <mezquitale> zebaztian," lame MyFile.wav MyNewFile.mp3"
[06:02] <shachaf> zebaztian: Probably it's in "universe" or "multiverse" or something.
[06:02] <SeaPhor> shachaf, http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=66
[06:03] <zebaztian> mezquitale, do i have to specify the file location /path?
[06:03] <dm-madman> shachaf: i just add the device node unless he's a drive-shuffler or something
[06:03] <dm-madman> shachaf: and if he is, a LABEL= line would do just fine
[06:04] <mezquitale> zebaztian, if your already in the path then no, but if you want to creaate an mp3 file from your wav file that's stored in your desktop and put it into your library in another folder then yes
[06:04] <shachaf> dm-madman: How does the LABEL thing work? Is it an argument to mke2fs?
[06:04] <mezquitale> zebaztian, install lame first: sudo apt-get install lame
[06:05] <zaccour> how do i save an ubuntu bootable image to an sd/micro sd card?
[06:05] <skel> zaccour: if you have it installed somewhere else already, there's a tool under Preferences or Administration
[06:05] <skel> zaccour: can't remember which
[06:05] <skel> zaccour: something like ubuntu usb image tool or something
[06:06] <skel> zaccour: at least in Jaunty
[06:06] <dm-madman> shachaf: tell him this: mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda4 && mkdir /mnt/mynewhome && mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/mynewhome && cp -av /home/* /mnt/mynewhome/ && umount /mnt/mynewhome && e2label /dev/sda4 /home && echo '/home LABEL=/home ext3 defaults,noatime 0 0' >> /etc/fstab && mount /home
[06:06] <mezquitale> Dr_Willis was here briefly then he lft
[06:06] <Logomachist> :/
[06:06] <dm-madman> shachaf: perhaps substitute ext3 for something else
[06:06] <dm-madman> shachaf: one command for him to cut and paste :)
[06:07] <shachaf> dm-madman: What about deleting the files in the old /home? :-)
[06:07] <dm-madman> shachaf: he has to run it as root, though, so 'sudo su' first?
[06:07] <SeaPhor> shachaf, UUID is somewhat confusing, as it is relative to the device/box/os... but tis command will give it... sudo vol_id --uuid /dev/sda#
[06:07] <mezquitale> Logomachist,  you have to type the name first, as in the first few letters, then tab it, if he's using xchat he'll see it red and he'll know it's addressed to him
[06:08] <skel> welp, the new woot sucks, I'm off to bed, g'night
[06:08] <socratees> Logomachist: there?
[06:08] <dm-madman> shachaf: yeah after that he can do this: mkdir /mnt/rootbind && mount -o bind / /mnt/rootbind && rm -rf /mnt/rootbind/home
[06:08] <mezquitale> UUID is not confusing at all, it's the best way to put hard drives in your fstab
[06:09] <Logomachist> Yeah. I was looking for his nick on the room list, when I couldn't find it I assumed he was under a pseudonym.
[06:09] <dm-madman> shachaf: and then umount /mnt/rootbind, and maybe rmdir /mnt/{mynewhome,rootbind}
[06:10] <shachaf> dm-madman: It wouldn't cause trouble to do this while logged in as a user?
[06:10] <dm-madman> shachaf: nope
[06:13] <dm-madman> shachaf: might do something odd if he's downloading while doing it or something, but i can't imagine it causing any major malfunctions (anything a quick relog won't fix)
[06:13] <zebaztian> mezquitale, I am using soundconverter instead, but it does'nt seem to give an option for converting to mp3
[06:13] <mezquitale> Logomachist, there are other gurus that come in the room every now and then so don't despair, just try different times, it's night time most of America, maybe some europeans will log in when it's night time in their time zone
[06:13] <dm-madman> shachaf: it's really quite simple, you just format, copy, mount, delete
[06:14] <mezquitale> zebaztian, ive heard about soundconverter, lame was the easiest for me so youre on your own with soundconverter
[06:14] <fccf> !ask | Logomachist
[06:14] <Logomachist> mezquitale: K
[06:15] <zebaztian> mezquitale, it seems as though i already installed lame however i can't see it,is this a shell only app?
[06:15] <mezquitale> Logomachist, ask your question again, maybe fccf can help you, if not hopefully someone else later on can
[06:15] <Logomachist> I have a problem. After logging in, the desktop comes up but without the menu bar. I have a mouse cursor, and I have wallpaper and  ctrl + alt + delete works. The "Help" button on the "restart the computer" menu brings up the help window but without the title bar. But that's all I can get to. Alt + F2 doesn't work. Has anyone else run into anything like this?
[06:15] <mezquitale> zebaztian, yes, lame is used through the command line as far as i know
[06:15] <zaccour> do i get ubuntu onto an sd card the same way i would a usb flash?
[06:16] <SeaPhor> mezquitale, i agree that its the best way of adding to the fstab, the confusing part is getting at the UUID, especially when the df -ah and whats listed in the fstab differ as far as what sdax and sday are, i had 2 cases where they conflicted eachother and had to guess which was correct in order to get the right UUID associated to the fstab
[06:16] <dm-madman> sorry ubottu. you made my ignore list for being "most annoying bot"
[06:16] <fccf> !error
[06:16] <zebaztian> mezquitale, so if i want to use lame first i cd to cdda://sr0/ and then i do what?
[06:16] <shachaf> dm-madman: Don't you mean LABEL=/home /home ...?
[06:16] <dm-madman> it's vol_id --uuid /dev/sdxN
[06:17] <dm-madman> shachaf: isn't that what i wrote?
[06:17] <dm-madman> shachaf: yeah, i meant that, i was typing too fast
[06:17] <mezquitale> SeanTater, youre confusing yourself, in the future try "sudo fdisk -l" and then "sudo blkid"
[06:17] <zaccour> i'm going back to 9.04 because in karmic there isn't sources needed for gyachi
[06:17] <mezquitale> SeaPhor, , youre confusing yourself, in the future try "sudo fdisk -l" and then "sudo blkid"
[06:18] <zaccour> is there a way to downgrade?
[06:18] <dm-madman> shachaf: sorry, good job catching that one
[06:18] <mezquitale> zebaztian, what is it exactly youre trying to do?  I thought you were trying to change a wav file to an mp3 file
[06:18] <fccf> zaccour: er um kinda... but not reccommended and definatly not supported
[06:19] <Peddy> Logomachist, it sounds like Compiz is messing things up a little (perhaps your graphics card isn't working properly). Can you do ctrl-alt-F2 after logging in?
[06:19] <SeaPhor> mezquitale, did that- it matched the gui, and the fstab, but not the df -ah
[06:19] <zebaztian> mezquitale, yes, so the wavs are at cdda://sr0/ as they're in a cd, adn i want the mp3s to be ripped onto the desktop
[06:19] <Logomachist> F2 or F1?
[06:20] <cambo> wasssssup
[06:20] <Peddy> Logomachist, either.
[06:20] <fccf> Logomachist: does it matter, or is a terminal a terminal
[06:20] <mezquitale> zebaztian, yes, first cd to where the wav files are stored then in the path you have to specify the path to the desktop as in : lame myfile.wav /home/username/Desktop/myfile.mp3
[06:20] <Logomachist> Peddy: Yes they both work.
[06:20] <zaccour> do i get ubuntu onto an sd card the same way i would a usb flash?
[06:20] <Peddy> Logomachist, you will be presented with a black login screen, log in there.
[06:21] <CoUrPsE> Ahh, my sound just stopped, i've killall pulseaudio and tried again, usually this fixes it for me.
[06:21] <mezquitale> fccf, t =t, the answer is t
[06:21] <Logomachist> Peddy: Done
[06:21] <shachaf> How would I find out a device's label?
[06:21] <dm-madman> shachaf: if it's ext2/3?
[06:21] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK, type "DISPLAY=:0.0 metacity --replace" without quotes.
[06:21] <shachaf> dm-madman: Yes.
[06:21] <DougM> is there a way to get my computer specs on my desktop.. including things like system usage?
[06:21] <dm-madman> shachaf: e2label /dev/wtf
[06:22] <zaccour> do i get ubuntu onto an sd card the same way i would a usb flash?
[06:22] <ikey> DougM, get conky
[06:22] <ikey> DougM, sudo apt-get install conky
[06:22] <cambo> does anyone know of a gui to administer an slapd server?
[06:22] <timothyarnold> hello! I'm having terrible Grub problems after an install of Ubuntu. Can someone help?
[06:22] <fccf> !repeat | zaccour
[06:22] <ikey> Then google for a conky config
[06:22] <DougM> ikey: alright cool thanks
[06:22] <ikey> np
[06:22] <Peddy> Logomachist, after you've typed that, press ctrl-alt-F7 (has to be F7).
[06:22] <mezquitale> DougM, you want to install system monitor
[06:23] <shujingjing> I lost my ubuntu main menu items after I tried to edit it ,and there was no backups at /home/myhome/.config/menus/ . So I removed the file Applications.menu under that folder. After I log out my account and log in again,the main menu iterms is back.I just don't know how this happened.Maybe the main menu stores datas in other place too.So where is it?
[06:23] <mezquitale> !ask| timothyarnold
[06:23] <shachaf> dm-madman: Ah. Sorry, apparently I can't read man pages today.
[06:23] <Logomachist> Peddy: Do I hit enter after typing the DISPLAY line?
[06:23] <zaccour> do i get ubuntu onto an sd card the same way i would a usb flash?
[06:23] <Peddy> Logomachist, yes.
[06:23] <dm-madman> shachaf: 'sokay
[06:24] <dm-madman> shachaf: you caught my goofball error, so i'll overlook that one
[06:24] <mezquitale> Logomachist, just for kicks create another user and see what happens
[06:24] <Logomachist> I get the error "Window Manager Error: Unable to open the display 0"
[06:24] <DougM> ikey: hey i just installed it and found http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/My+Conky+Config?content=62536 do i just download that theme?
[06:24] <DougM> ikey: sorry im new to ubuntu
[06:24] <Logomachist> mezquitale: How do I create another user w/out the GUI?
[06:24] <timothyarnold> I have two physical hard drives. I had a Linux distro installed on one of them, and then installed Ubuntu on the other physical drive (it formatted the second). I was hoping to be able to dual boot into these two distros, but now grub comes up and only offers me Ubuntu. I've tried editing /boot/grub/menu.lst to add the other distro but to no avail. Actually, when I do this, it appears on my grub list and it begins to boot but then giv
[06:24] <timothyarnold> UUID error of some sort. Can someone help me boot into my old install?
[06:24] <zaccour> this channel isn't very helpful today :(
[06:25] <ikey> DougM, dload it then extract to your home directory
[06:25] <cambo> logomachist adduser username
[06:25] <mezquitale> Logomachist, try what Peddy is suggesting first, if you still cant resolve your problem then just goggle on how to add/remove users using the command line
[06:25] <DougM> ikey: cool thanks
[06:25] <ikey> np
[06:25]  * dm-madman wonders how many GB this ubuntu mirror will take...
[06:25] <Logomachist> mezquitale: ok
[06:25] <cambo> Logomachist: sudo adduser username
[06:26] <cambo> Logomachist: sudo deluser username
[06:26] <shujingjing> Main menu was gone,And it's back after I remove ~/.config/menus/applications.menu.So why?
[06:26] <Peddy> Logomachist, did you type it exactly line-for-line DISPLAY=:0.0 ?
[06:26] <Peddy> letter for letter*
[06:26] <Logomachist> PEDDY: yes
[06:26] <fccf> timothyarnold: sounds like you have the wrong drive lettering passsing to grub in menu.list see !grub
[06:26] <fccf> !grub
[06:27] <Logomachist> PEDDY: WAIT, let me try again
[06:27] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, that is not a big issue, that's happened to me a few times, first look at your hard drives, you want to know their location "sudo fdisk -l" then look at the "menu.lst" file, you have a new file that is being used by the drive youre using to boot up and you have an old one in the other drive, once you find those files ask more questions
[06:28] <Peddy> Does anyone know how to list X servers running on a machine and the display they're on?
[06:28] <kermit> when my computer shuts down improperly, lots of seemingly random settings get reset to defaults, is that a gconf issue?  gconf seems to bring a lot of the shortcomings of win to linux.
[06:28] <mezquitale> Logomachist, dont capitalize his nick, nobody likes that, instead type the first few letters of his nick, tab it and use the nick exactly as it appears
[06:29] <Logomachist> Sorry ^_^;; I hit caps lock by accident.
[06:29] <dm-madman> Peddy: ps -f `pidof X`
[06:30] <Peddy> thanks dm-madman :)
[06:30] <dm-madman> np
[06:30] <Logomachist> Peddy: I forgot the ':' the first time. I typed the line and then hit ctrl+alt+F7 like you said. The screen went back to the wallpaper.
[06:30] <Peddy> Logomachist, good. Can you do alt-F2 now?
[06:31] <Peddy> You know, the Run dialog thing.
[06:31] <dm-madman> Peddy: it will really just tell you the full commandline for X, which will include the display
[06:31] <Logomachist> No
[06:32] <wizzo50> j\tran
[06:32] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK, go back to the other terminal, ctrl-c out of metacity, and type the same thing as before, but instead do 'gtk-window-decorator --replace'.
[06:32] <DougM> ikey: alright i extracted the file to my home directory mind helping me.. im not sure where to go from here
[06:33] <ikey> DougM, what files were there?
[06:33] <DougM> ikey: conkyrc, weather.sh, weather.xslt
[06:33] <Logomachist> Peddy: What do I press to go back to the other terminal... ctrl + alt + F1? Then I hit ^c and type "gtk-window-decorator --replace"?
[06:34] <ikey> DougM, rename conkyrc to .conkyrc
[06:34] <dm-madman> Can you get CDs or DVDs with a bunch of the packages on it?  maybe an ISO or something?
[06:34] <DougM> ikey: ok i did that
[06:34] <ikey> then run conky
[06:35] <Peddy> Logomachist, yep - ctrl-alt-F1. Then, hit up, and delete the 'metacity --replace' part, replacing it with 'gtk-window-decorator --replace'.
[06:35] <timothyarnold> mezquitale, I have both menu.lst files. I have the Ubuntu file because it's the OS I'm booting into, and I have the old one (Fedora) because I am able to mount the partition with the /boot folder from that distro. I'm not sure how (or which one) to edit, however, to enable booting into Fedora upon restart. I tried taking the Fedora version (from the Fedora menu.lst file) and sticking it as an option in the Ubuntu menu.lst file, right
[06:35] <timothyarnold> the Ubuntu part. This makes Fedora show up on the Grub list when I restart, and seems to start the boot process, but I get an error soon after. It completes "Setting up Logical Volume Management" and fails "Checking filesystems." It says fsck.ext3: unable to resolve 'UUID=....'
[06:35] <wizzo50> \J #IP
[06:36] <DougM> ikey: should the .conkyrc file be directly in my home directory because its inside a folder then inside another
[06:36] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: perhaps you've unwittingly removed or formatted the FC root partition?
[06:36] <Logomachist> Peddy: Done
[06:36] <lsemple_> 9/11 was an inside job
[06:36] <timothyarnold> dm-madman maybe? no idea what the FC root partition is
[06:37] <zebaztian> mezquitale, what if i want to convert several files all at once?
[06:37] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: certainly sounds that way
[06:37] <newser> I need help. I cannot play any video files in vls, mplayer or the default video player. What can I do to fix this problem? When I try to play any videoclip, the window just closes
[06:37] <ikey> DougM, directly yes.
[06:37] <Peddy> Logomachist, go back to VT7 with ctrl-alt-F7/
[06:37] <DougM> ikey: ok
[06:37] <timothyarnold> dm-madman do you know how to fix this?
[06:37] <steven__> Is there a program for Ubuntu that is like Dreamweaver?
[06:37] <Logomachist> Peddy: done.
[06:38] <Peddy> steven__, Seamonkey I think, I don't have experience.
[06:38] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: not really possible, assuming I am correct
[06:38] <Peddy> Logomachist, still not working?
[06:38] <DougM> ikey: alright i put it directly into that folder.. now where should I go from here?
[06:38] <Logomachist> Peddy: Still not working
[06:39] <ikey> DougM, everything in that folder. then ALT+F2 conky
[06:39] <steven__> !Scream
[06:39] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: If you actually have removed and/or overwritten the FC root partition, it's gone.
[06:39] <timothyarnold> hmmm dhm-madman, mezquitale seemed to think it was easily fixable... mezquitale?
[06:39] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK - go back to VT1 and repeat the ^C thing, replacing 'gtk-window-decorator --replace' with 'gnome-panel'. It's a wild shot, but it might work.
[06:39] <timothyarnold> dm-madman is there a way to check this?
[06:40] <newser> I cannot play any video files in vlc, mplayer or the default video player. When I try to play any videoclip, the videoplayer window just closes
[06:40] <Peddy> Plus it might give interesting output.
[06:40] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, sounds like the issue is between multi boot between ubuntu and fedora, I would google the issue, what you want to do is edit the "menu.lst" file on the ubuntu partition, I suggest you boot up to ubuntu "sudo fidsk -l" identify which partition has fedora, then get the uuid by : sudo blkid , then use the UUID in the menu.lst file
[06:40] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: mount any unmounted partitions, and see if FC is on them
[06:40] <Nozy> hey all
[06:40] <steven__> !Screem
[06:40] <timothyarnold> dm-madman i can mount the fedora partitions
[06:41] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: well then you have not removed or overwritten them
[06:41] <steven__> Which is better...Bluefish or Screem?
[06:41] <Techtronic> timothyarnold fedora or ext4 or ext3 ?
[06:42] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: you should do what he said, get the UUIDs and put them in your kernel command lines
[06:42] <timothyarnold> mezquitale -- I've googled for several hours now, which is why I came here. I guess I don't understand where the computer looks when it boots. Has it mounted anything when grub comes up? Does it look at the /boot/grub/menu.lst file in the old fedora physical disk (I can mount the /boot folder. It is in /dev/sda1 whereas ubuntu is /dev/sdb1. This is where I got the menu.lst file from Fedora)?
[06:42] <mezquitale> zebaztian, if you want to do multiple files then you want to learn about scripting, havent done scripting in a long while, sorry but what you want to do is to create a loop that iterates in all files in a directory, if youre a professional that does hundreds of files then i suggest you learn about scripting, it will save you a lot of time
[06:42] <timothyarnold> techtronic not sure, how might I check? I want to say ext3 but unsure
[06:43] <zebaztian> mezquitale, i got the following output
[06:43] <zebaztian> lame: excess arg /home/sebastian/Desktop/DomingoAM.mp3
[06:43] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, your issue is with "dual booting ubuntu and fedora".  If you installed ubuntu last then ubuntu is booting up first and it matters what ubuntu sees
[06:44] <mezquitale> zebaztian, what did you type first?
[06:44] <timothyarnold> mezquitale okay. Is there a way to make an option to use all the Fedora partitions to mount to /boot etc ? I tried to do this I guess and failed
[06:44] <zebaztian> mezquitale, lame Track 1.wav /home/sebastian/Desktop/DomingoAM.mp3
[06:44] <administrator__> how to format pen drive on ubuntu 9
[06:44] <spitzi> Hi. I had a local terminal connect via ssh to a remote host overnight, in order to run some app, but the connection timed out. Now that I've relogged-in, I still see the PID of that app, only that now its been adopted by pid 1. Can I rejoin it as a child of the new terminal I'm now using, so that I can again monitor its output ?
[06:44] <Logomachist> Peddy: I got my panels back, but with a dialog box saying "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID: GNOME-FastUserSwitchApplet" Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?"
[06:45] <zebaztian> mezquitale, i already cd to desktop btw
[06:45] <Logomachist> Peddy: What should I answer?
[06:45] <Sememmon> spitzi: not that I'm aware of, but you might want to look in to a utility called "screen"
[06:45] <administrator__> how to format pen drive on ubuntu 9
[06:45] <Peddy> Logomachist, you can leave it for now, I don't think it's your main problem.
[06:45] <spitzi> Sememmon - ok, I will
[06:45] <Sememmon> its handy =]
[06:45] <Sememmon> for stuff like that.
[06:45] <Peddy> Logomachist, try adding a new user through the GUI with system>administration>users and groups
[06:45] <timothyarnold> mezquitale: blkid gives me LABEL and UUIDs. How do I put this in menu.lst?
[06:45] <steven__> Anyone here know anything about KompoZer?
[06:45] <dm-madman> administrator__: mkfs /dev/wtf
[06:46] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, I have done this using ubuntu.  My installs have crapped out and only gave an option to use the last install that I used.    What I do is edit my "menu.lst" file and add the other partitions, the trick is to put the correct partitions in  your "menu.lst" file
[06:46] <Peddy> Logomachist, log out, and log in with the new user. Does the problem still occur?
[06:46] <genii> dm-madman: Thats not a constructive answer
[06:46] <dm-madman> administrator__: where wtf is actually wtf device you want to format
[06:46] <dm-madman> genii: is it not?
[06:46] <timothyarnold> mezquitale do you think two different physical hard drives, versus just several partitions, makes this different?
[06:46] <SeaPhor> timothyarnold, do you have internet on that box? the one in question?
[06:47] <timothyarnold> seaphor unfortunately no
[06:47] <genii> dm-madman: Not in it's original form :)
[06:47] <dm-madman> genii: perhaps "man mkfs" would be better?
[06:47] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, hint:  have you see what the "menu.lst" file looks like for ubuntu
[06:47] <administrator__> i have connect it to my usb port so i wanna format it how to do it
[06:47] <genii> dm-madman: "man whatever" is the lazy way.
[06:48] <dm-madman> administrator__: you'd probably like gparted
[06:48] <SeaPhor> timothyarnold, what can you boot to?
[06:48] <timothyarnold> mezquitale yep, I'm looking at it right now. title, uuid, kernel, root=uuid=[a UUID], initrd. I think I've found all these things for the Fedora partition (by looking at the Fedora menu.lst) and added it below the Ubuntu pieces
[06:48] <n8tuser> administrator__ -> fdisk /dev/sdc
[06:48] <dm-madman> genii: it's more helpful than doing it for them, though
[06:48] <zebaztian> mezquitale, sebastian@jaunty:~/Desktop$ lame Track 1.wav  Could not find "Track"
[06:48] <genii> dm-madman: Sometimes.
[06:48] <timothyarnold> mezquitale and that indeed gives me a Fedora option when I reboot in Grub. But then when I boot it gives me this UUID error. Could the UUID from the Fedora menu.lst be different from the UUID that it should be?
[06:48] <timothyarnold> seaphor: i can boot to ubuntu but not my previous distro on a different physical hard drive
[06:48] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, dont look at the UUID in the menu.lst in the fedora partition, boot into ubuntu and get the UUID from ubuntu
[06:48] <rww> zebaztian: put a \ before the space, so "lame Track\ 1.wav"
[06:49] <timothyarnold> mezquitale: okay --- does this come from blkid?
[06:49] <Logomachist> Peddy: When the Users and Groups window appears, it is all the way in the upper left hand corner of the screen, and without a title or menu bar. "Add user" is grayed out. Maybe this is because I am logged in under failsafe mode?
[06:49] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: blkid just prints the uuid for the device node
[06:49] <borreguito> my ADD PRINTER  option are disabled.... help me!!!
[06:49] <administrator__> where i should mention my pen drive's name
[06:49] <mezquitale> zebaztian, try putting quotes around your file name as in "Track 1. wav"
[06:50] <Peddy> Logomachist, you might need to click 'unlock' first. But, to get the title and menu bars back, could you open a gnome-terminal?
[06:50] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, you seemed to have solved the problem yourself, try it and see what happens
[06:50] <medstudent> IdleOne, SeaPhor, mezquitale: great success. 9.04 booted beautifully.
[06:51] <Logomachist> Peddy: Unlock is disabled too. Terminal opened.
[06:51] <SeaPhor> medstudent, great news
[06:51] <administrator__> what is the command to format a flash drive on ubuntu 9
[06:51] <glicks> excuse me, how come i dont see the settings i click in compiz configurator
[06:51] <glicks> do i have to restart x before they take effect?
[06:51] <dm-madman> administrator__: try gparted, i think that's "the ubuntu way"
[06:51] <mezquitale> medstudent, so your machine like jaunty then??? Jaunty makes my desktop cry a river!!!!!!!!!!
[06:51] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK - it's probably failsafe mode. Ignore that for now. Type gtk-window-decorator --replace in the terminal.
[06:52] <medstudent> SeaPhor: so to get "up and running" per se in Ubuntu, I need to get Flash, mp3 and DVD codecs, right?
[06:52] <wadmurr> glicks, make sure compiz is enabled in System>preferences>appearance
[06:52] <wizzo50> \join #<unity-coders>
[06:52] <glicks> it is enabled wadmurr
[06:52] <ikey> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1 && sudo mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdb1    << Replace sdb1 with your ACTUAL device name
[06:52] <medstudent> mezquitale: works like a charm so far
[06:52] <wadmurr> glicks, "Normal" or "Extra" set?
[06:52] <medstudent> but it's only been up and running for 90 seconds
[06:52] <genii> administrator__: First you need to know what the drive is being seen as. Usually it's some name like sdb sdc or so on. Then it needs to have a valid partition so that there is an sdb1 or sdc` or so on which to format. Then you can format it in the way already described by dm-madman
[06:52] <glicks> wadmurr, custom
[06:53] <Logomachist> Peddy: Done.
[06:53] <medstudent> looks gorgeous though. I'm digging the font feathering
[06:53] <administrator__> name is yamuna
[06:53] <mezquitale> medstudent update it your distro "sudo apt-get update"
[06:53] <Peddy> Logomachist, does the terminal say anything? Still no titlebars, right?
[06:53] <medstudent> ok I'll have to leave IRC to do that
[06:53] <wadmurr> glicks, as i change settings in the compizconfig settings manager, they instantly take effect
[06:53] <medstudent> I'll have to switch the ethernet cord to my desktop now
[06:53] <Logomachist> Peddy: Nothing, and right
[06:54] <medstudent> I'll fire up Xchat though once I'm on line
[06:54] <Peddy> Logomachist, try compiz --replace
[06:54] <mezquitale> medstudent, have fun, try installing winblows in this time frame\
[06:54] <timothyarnold> mezquitale: got past the last spot where there was an error, but the progress bar just kind of hangs when it gets all the way to the right hand side of the screen. Is there a way to show what's actually happening during bootup (Fedora) to see where it hangs?
[06:54] <medstudent> mezquitale: seriously
[06:54] <Logomachist> ^c first?
[06:54] <medstudent> mezquitale: and especially with an off-the-shelf Windows version with no drivers. You'd go insane.
[06:55] <Peddy> Logomachist, yes
[06:55] <dm-madman> genii: see i would call that "too helpful".  That's like someone asking for directions, and you just drive their car there for them and take a cab back. :p
[06:55] <mezquitale> medstudent, true that, when you get finish schools i hope you remember it was us computer geeks that helped you with your pc issues
[06:55] <dm-madman> genii: I'm new to this channel, though, so idk...
[06:56] <mezquitale> medstudent, sorry about the grammer im quite drunk :-)
[06:56] <genii> dm-madman: They still have to do the work of finding now their drive designation, partitioning, formatting. So the work is still all theirs to do, now that they know an approach
[06:56] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, i need to see your menu.lst file
[06:57] <_Trinity_> hi all
[06:57] <timothyarnold> mezquitale the whole thing or just the Fedora entry?
[06:57] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, the whole thing
[06:57] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, the whole thing in your unbuntu partition
[06:58] <frogzoo> why is my update bitching that firefox updates are not authenticated?
[06:58] <timothyarnold> mezquitale :okay, give me a minute
[06:58] <dm-madman> genii: do ubuntu users normally have wgetpaste?
[06:58] <_Trinity_> shuld I be worried about having my / 70% full? I only have two paritions
[06:58] <Techtronic> new skype release for Linux 2.1 Beta out >_<
[06:59] <dm-madman> _Trinity_: worry when it says 100% full
[06:59] <_Trinity_> LOL!!
[06:59] <dm-madman> _Trinity_: really weird things happen then
[06:59] <frogzoo> _Trinity_: it will make your next upgrade a nightmare, but in the meantime it's all good
[06:59] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, just a clue for you, i googled your issue and it looks like fedora uses LVM's, let me keep reading
[06:59] <steven__> Should I stick with Gnome-desktop or try Kde?
[06:59] <Logo2> Peddy: This is Logomachist, I'm logging in from the affected computer now.
[06:59] <genii> dm-madman: Not that i know of
[06:59] <Logo2> Peddy: This is the output of compiz --replace - http://privatepaste.com/f90spl5WxD
[07:00] <dm-madman> genii: how unfortunate.  maybe nopaste or some other CLI pastebin program?
[07:00] <genii> dm-madman: For cli pasting, pastebinit usually
[07:00] <_Trinity_> dm-madman: I wonder what filling it? Three desktops?
[07:00] <djbpython> i can't get tcpdump to work, and i suspect its because i am trying to use my wireless interface, any ideas?
[07:00] <Peddy> Logo2, good. Could you paste the output (if any) of 'metacity --replace'?
[07:00] <dibblego> is there a release schedule for 9.04.1 ?
[07:01] <djbpython> using "sudo tcpdump -i wlan0'
[07:01] <djbpython> wlan0 is listed as the logical name using lshw -C network
[07:01] <dm-madman> _Trinity_: there are several ways to determine this
[07:01] <wadmurr> djbpython: are you connected to a network that you're listening to, or are you trying to monitor all wifi traffic?
[07:01] <Logo2> No output for metacity --replace.
[07:01] <medstudent1> mezquitale: ok I'm up and running on Ubuntu
[07:02] <rww> dibblego: point releases are only created for LTSes. 9.04 is not an LTS, so there won't be a 9.04.1.
[07:02] <medstudent1> it seems that XChat doesn't come installed by default
[07:02] <dm-madman> genii: so pastebinit can be piped output or used like 'pastebinit /the/file' i asuume?
[07:02] <wizzo50> timothyarnold: On that Fedora, when you acidently tell it TV mode and you haven't got that hooked up yet to your computer, TV that is, and your screen just turns to a blank screen, even when you reboot the computer every time, How do you correct that so you can get your computer screen back up so you can see things on it until your actually ready to use the TV mode in Fedora?
[07:02] <SpacePigeon> long live communism! down with capitalism!
[07:02] <genii> dm-madman: Yup
[07:02] <mezquitale> steven__, it all depends on your hardware, if you want speed stay with gnome, if you have a fast pc and want eye-candy, try KDE
[07:02] <timothyarnold> wizzo50 confused ... what is TV mode?
[07:02] <Peddy> Logo2, this is a bit redundant, but could you do 'gtk-window-decorator --replace' again?
[07:03] <dm-madman> genii: thanks, maybe i can be as helpful as you here now
[07:03] <Hentai> iwhy won't my ati driver install tahts in restricted drivers, I hit activate, it asks for my pwd, then it says downloading, and that dissapears but no green light
[07:03] <madberry> !politics | SpacePigeon
[07:03] <wizzo50> To use a TV monitor instead of your computer monitor
[07:03] <mezquitale> steven__, actually i meant to say if you HAVE a fast pc and want eye candy then try KDE
[07:03] <mezquitale> medstudent, congrats!
[07:03] <Peddy> Logo2, you _do_ use Gnome, right?
[07:03] <steven__> I have Intel Core 2 Duo...that fast?
[07:04] <dm-madman> _Trinity_: you could use 'find' to look for big files, or just find the basic distribution of the usage with something like 'du -sh /*'
[07:04] <wizzo50> timothyarnold: This happened to me and didn't know what to do, so I just reinstalled the Ubuntu over it again.
[07:04] <Berzerker> it's not just processor
[07:04] <Berzerker> but video card, more so
[07:04] <medstudent1> mezquitale: another question: what would be the best way to get Internet Explorer running in Wine?
[07:04] <wadmurr> !politics | wadmurr
[07:04] <Berzerker> medstudent1: whyever would you want to do that
[07:05] <moxie> Hey there guys, Im sure this is going to sound absolutely Noobish, but I just switched to Ubuntu recently, and I feel comfortable with the console, but I can't seem to figure out if there is an Equivical ".bat" file in *nix. I would think there would have to be.
[07:05] <dm-madman> _Trinity_: usually /usr takes a lot, but maybe if you have /home on the root partition that would be the majority
[07:05] <lsemple_> ?
[07:05] <medstudent1> Berzerker: unfortunately when I access the electronic med record system, it's only supported in IE
[07:05] <dibblego> rww, oh, then 9.10 will be a LTS?
[07:05] <medstudent1> why...I have no idea
[07:05] <lsemple_> man you guyz is tripped right out
[07:05] <dm-madman> moxie: shell script
[07:05] <zaccour> where do my epiphany downloads go? i can't find them anywhere
[07:05] <mezquitale> medstudent, uninstall wine and install firefox
[07:05] <Berzerker> medstudent1: look up the IETab extension for firefox
[07:05] <rww> dibblego: no, 10.04 (or possibly 10.10). LTSes are about every 2 years, and the last one was 8.04.
[07:05] <Logomachist> Peddy: I don't know if you caught my last line, but after I closed the metacity --replace terminal the screen got screwy, windows were overlapping each other and I couldn't read the chat so I rebooted.
[07:06] <dibblego> rww, ok ta
[07:06] <medstudent1> Berzerker: does that work in Linux? I thought that only worked for Windows...I don't think that Linux has the rendering engine installed by default
[07:06] <zaccour> does anyone know how to find the downloads from epiphany browser? i can't seem to find them anywhere
[07:06] <_Trinity_>  I'll look into those
[07:06] <genii> moxie: Most scripts in *nix are done in sh,bash, or similar. The extension when it exists is usually .sh  but normally in the first line of the file is something like #!/path/executable      which tells the os what to use to run the thing
[07:06] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK - now that you've rebooted. At GDM, before you log in, go ctrl-alt-F1 and log in there, create a user account with 'sudo adduser'. then try logging in with that account.
[07:07] <dm-madman> moxie: make a file, start it with "#!/bin/sh" or some other interpreter path, set it to be executable (chmod 755 filename) and then run it (./filename)
[07:07] <Berzerker> medstudent1: no idea, you can try it though
[07:07] <Logomachist> Peddy: GDM?
[07:07] <wadmurr> medstudent: is the record system detecting that you're on linux/firefox and telling you no, or is there some plugin or scripting needed by the system?
[07:07] <Peddy> Logomachist, the login screen.
[07:07] <Techtronic> howto reconfigure mysql ?
[07:07] <zaccour> where do my epiphany downloads go? i can't find them anywhere
[07:07] <SeaPhor> medstudent, is your med stuff suported in IE6 or does it have to be IE7+?
[07:08] <dm-madman> moxie: however, batch files in DOS/Windows have a behavior where they can affect the current environment, and shell scripts, when run, cannot
[07:08] <moxie> Awesome, thanks for the info guys, huge help. And gave me something to google for.
[07:08] <dm-madman> moxie: you can, however make them do that by "sourcing" them (. filename)
[07:08] <medstudent1> SeaPhor: it's supported in IE6
[07:08] <mezquitale> medstudent, that is the only reason i ever boot to redmond, when there's stuff that isn't supported in linux like your plugin for IE
[07:09] <wizzo50> Hi, what program in Ubuntu do I use to use my HP printer and scanner on and to scan the original size?
[07:09] <dm-madman> moxie: you can look at the man page for bash for a HUGE amount of information about the shell language
[07:09] <wadmurr> medstudent: is it an IE plugin, or is the system just telling you 'no' because you're on firefox?
[07:09] <medstudent1> mezquitale: I thought that IE6 was supported in Wine
[07:09] <dm-madman> I printed the bash manual once, it was like a phone book
[07:10] <_Trinity_> dm-madman: It's not /home that's in /. I'll look intose otehr commands. Adn just when I thught I'd not install without extra partitions
[07:10] <CoUrPsE> Ahh, have compiz running now, and my send application to workspace keyboard shourtcuts dont work, :/
[07:10] <CoUrPsE> Any ideas?
[07:10] <seidos> dm-madman: speed reading is a learnable skill
[07:10] <wadmurr> medstudent: why i ask is because if it's sensing that you're on firefox and simply saying "no," you could change firefox's user agent string to that of IE's and trick the sites
[07:10] <SeaPhor> medstudent, for me it wouls be 2 choices,,, 1 run winxp in  vm, or 2 pay the 15$ for crossover and install IE from office 2003 there'
[07:10] <seidos> ubuntu
[07:10] <mezquitale> medstudent, yes but IE uses plugins which might not be supported in linux, what application youre trying to use in IE???
[07:10] <SeaPhor> medstudent, *would
[07:10] <wizzo50> any help here
[07:10] <dm-madman> seidos: never learned that skill, but i did read most of the manual
[07:10] <medstudent1> it doesn't render properly in Firefox
[07:11] <seidos> !ask | wizzo50
[07:11] <wizzo50> what program in Ubuntu do I use to use my HP printer and scanner on and to scan the original size?
[07:11] <spitzi> Sememmon - FYI, retty may also be useful
[07:11] <zaccour> where do my epiphany downloads go? i can't find them anywhere
[07:11] <CoUrPsE> Ahh, have compiz running now, and my send application to workspace keyboard shourtcuts dont work, :/
[07:11] <spitzi> Thanks all, bye
[07:11] <medstudent1> wadmurr: so I need true IE
[07:11] <CoUrPsE> Any ideas?
[07:11] <seidos> wizzo50: gimp might work
[07:11] <Sememmon> spitzi: cool, ty
[07:12] <Keiffer> Hi! Can you tell me if i can connect with ssh to my machine, with the user X, if on the machine is user Y that's logged in?
[07:12] <Logomachist> Peddy: The new user has panels but it is still gives me that applet error dialog I encountered before.
[07:12] <wadmurr> medstudent: maybe so. but it could still be something detecting you're on firefox and not firing off some javascript or css file
[07:12] <zaccour> any epiphany browser users here at all?
[07:12] <CoUrPsE> Also, i cant drag folders and stuff anymore since installing compiz.
[07:12] <genii> Keiffer: ssh -l Xname ip/name
[07:12] <R3za> bache ha man ye barnameie php neveshte hala mikham ba cron too server ejrash konam ta karesho anjam bede , hala dastooore ejrash ro chi baiad bedam ?
[07:12] <Peddy> Logomachist, does the new user have window titlebars?
[07:12] <wadmurr> medstudent1: maybe have a look at IEs4Linux @   http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[07:13] <rww> Keiffer: you can specify which user to use with "ssh username@server", if that's what you're asking
[07:13] <seidos> wizzo50: nevermind, perhaps something else
[07:13] <CoUrPsE> HELLO ALL, Can you pls respond to my questions?
[07:13] <Keiffer> Ok. Thanks rww and genii
[07:13] <seidos> dm-madman: I am still practicing.  I am trying to get through the bible
[07:13] <mezquitale> where can you post multiple lines???
[07:13] <rww> !helpme | CoUrPsE
[07:13] <Logomachist> Peddy: yes
[07:13] <genii> !paste | mezquitale
[07:13]  * CoUrPsE mutters.
[07:14] <mezquitale> genii, thank you
[07:14] <rww> R3za: which language?
[07:14] <enovativ> hello to all...it seems that samba is automatically set up on my ubuntu box...but how do i access my linux shares from windows ?
[07:14] <seidos> wizzo50: I don't think gimp will work
[07:14] <wizzo50> seidos: Then what?
[07:14] <zaccour> where do my epiphany downloads go? i can't find them anywhere
[07:14] <CoUrPsE> I cant drag folders and stuff anymore since installing compiz. is ther a fix?
[07:14] <R3za> rww: sorry , wrong channel , its persian language . :D
[07:14] <enovativ> in linux i can do smb://
[07:14] <mezquitale> !paste |  timothyarnold
[07:14] <enovativ> but i can't see my linux shares in windows
[07:14] <seidos> wizzo50: have you tried xsane?
[07:14] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK - if you don't mind losing your wallpaper, theme and panel configuration (all personal data and firefox prefs will be retained), there is a quick fix for your user account. Otherwise, we could try finding the exact problem. Your choice.
[07:15] <ziroday> enovativ: samba isn't setup by default but for windows in explorer it usually is //ip.address.of.server/sharename. However that changes from version to version of windows
[07:15] <medstudent> mezquitale: quick question: how do I enable the extra repositories. Things like Deluge and XChat don't show up when I search
[07:15] <wizzo50> seidos: No. I just want to make a copy of a letter I have
[07:15] <wizzo50> Before I mail it
[07:15] <mezquitale> !paste |  timothyarnold
[07:15] <mezquitale> !paste |  timothyarnold
[07:15] <timothyarnold> mezquitale sorry, again lost internet
[07:15] <mezquitale> !paste |  timothyarnold
[07:15] <mezquitale> paste
[07:15] <FloodBot1> mezquitale: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:15] <mezquitale> timothy arnold
[07:15] <Hentai> ziroday, \\ip\share
[07:15] <mezquitale> youre flooding
[07:15] <mezquitale> !paste
[07:15] <mezquitale> !paste | timothyarnold
[07:15] <enovativ> ziroday: how do i share my folders in ubuntu ?
[07:16] <rww> ...
[07:16] <ziroday> enovativ: woops, Hentai is right, its \\ip\share
[07:16] <genii> mezquitale: The bot won't spit out the same answer if the requests are too close together in time
[07:16] <seidos> wizzo50: the scanner I have has a memory card, so I've never set up a connection to it via usb
[07:16] <R3za> rww: ok , do you know how can i run php file with cron , i mean what is the command ?
[07:16] <timothyarnold> i am flooding right now?
[07:16] <seidos> wizzo50: and it's currently in the garage
[07:16] <rww> mezquitale: I think now might be about the right time for you to go take a break and get the alcohol out of your system.
[07:16] <CoUrPsE> How can i get my minimize, maximize and close programs back on my windows?
[07:16] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, you didnt lose internet access, you got booted because you were flooding the chat
[07:16] <wadmurr> medstudent: System>Administration>Software Sources
[07:16] <ziroday> enovativ: you can write click on a file and select sharing options. That's normally simplest way. Also see !samba
[07:16] <timothyarnold> mezquitale hmm did not intend to... sorry
[07:16] <seidos> wizzo50: but xsane sounds like your best bet, or search the forums for your particular scanner model
[07:16] <seidos> !forums
[07:16] <wizzo50> I already have a scanner & printer HP Photosmart C4640 which I just got before I made all my computer Ubuntu
[07:16] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: what did you do to make them disappear?
[07:17] <timothyarnold> mezquitale I didn't think I pasted anything large into the chat room
[07:17] <mezquitale> rww, thank you kindly for your request but the alcohol is exactly where it's supposed to be but I glady accept your invitation for a break, thank you
[07:17] <zaccour> where do my epiphany downloads go? i can't find them anywhere
[07:17] <wizzo50> seidos: It also has memory card slots too on it
[07:17] <timothyarnold> mezquitale okay! here is my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/269575/ terribly sorry for flooding
[07:17] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, afaik, nothing, i enabled compiz, and not theres a few things i cant do, eg, i had F5-F9 as sent application to workspace, and thye dont work either.
[07:17] <enovativ> i right click on \home\username and saw nothing
[07:18] <enovativ> i right click in linux on \home\username and saw nothing
[07:18] <wizzo50> seidos: So, you say use, XSane
[07:18] <medstudent> wadmurr: thank you. so I just check all those sources? any others I need? I can't check to make sure those work b/c update manager is running at the moment
[07:18] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: do you see the title bars/window decorations?
[07:18] <Logomachist> Peddy: How long do you expect the slow fix would take?
[07:18] <st01k> hey guys, none of my media players witll play .avi or .mov anymore.... i added codecs to be able to play .wmv and since then i can't play the other formats.  can anyone help?  (i've tried to play with mplayer, movie player, and vlc)  ver: ubuntu 8.10 intrepid
[07:18] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Yay, yes, just enabled it, and i got menus and stuffs.
[07:18] <Keiffer> Anyone here uses LUKS / encryption for home/swap/temp/etc?
[07:19] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Thanks, can you also help me with the send to workspace cmd?
[07:19] <zaccour> where are epiphany downloads saved? i can't find them
[07:19] <wadmurr> medstudent: that should do. close it, update sources. and then find your packages in synaptic
[07:19] <wizzo50> seidos: I clicked on it and it scanned for devices and came up saying No devices available.
[07:19] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: sure! You'll probably want to install compizconfig-settings-manager which is where you configure all of the compiz stuffs
[07:19] <dm-madman> how many GB is a full ubuntu mirror
[07:19] <seidos> wizzo50: do you have a memory card slot on your computer?
[07:19] <CoUrPsE> Yes, i have that, amd lookng at 'all' now.
[07:20] <wadmurr> how many mirrors is a full ubuntu GB
[07:20] <wizzo50> seidos: No, not on the computer itself, the printer I do.
[07:20] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Yes, i have that, amd lookng at 'all' now.
[07:20] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, this might be of help: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/112118-dual-boot-fedora-8-ubuntu-desktop-version.html , the hint is fedora uses lvm so you have to translate that into unbuntu'ese, i have to go now because the respectable public thinks i have consumed a drink too many, good night!
[07:20] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: yep, I'm trying to find the option myself, there's quite a few :)
[07:20] <wizzo50> seidos: Unless I hook a USB port to one.
[07:21] <Peddy> Logomachist, I don't really have a high level of expertise, so it could take a long time, or might not happen at all. However, if we try the quick-fix, it's reversible and we'll be able to see if it actually fixes your problem (it should)
[07:21] <timothyarnold> mezquitale thanks for your help
[07:21] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, oh aight, sorry, didnt know if ya seen the msg, i see there is lots of options, :/
[07:21] <mezquitale> no problem
[07:21] <seidos> wizzo50: that might be the easiest way to do it.  I can search the forums for you if you give me your printer make and model
[07:21] <steven__> Anyone know if Screem is any good?
[07:21] <wizzo50> seidos: Which would be the same as the HP Printer to the computer
[07:21] <zaccour> where are epiphany downloads saved? i can't find them
[07:22] <dm-madman> I'm rsyncing this us.archive.ubuntu.com and i'm rather curious how big the directory is going to get
[07:22] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: from the looks of it you'll want to enable the "Put" plugin and then configure a binding for "Put to arbitrary viewport"
[07:22] <wizzo50> seidos: HP Photosmart C4640
[07:22] <seidos> wizzo50: if when you plug the printer into your computer, if it mounts the memory card as a drive in ubuntu, then yes, you are right
[07:22] <ziroday> dm-madman: quite large
[07:22] <zaccour> brb gotta poop
[07:22] <rww> zaccour: by default, they're not, due to a bug in epiphany. You need to go to Edit > Preferences and set a download location.
[07:22] <Lint01> dm-madman: ~50 GB
[07:22] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, still there??
[07:22] <dm-madman> oh, that's not so bad
[07:22] <timothyarnold> mezquitale yep
[07:23] <seidos> wizzo50: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:23] <wizzo50> seidos: That I don't know if it does, if it mounts the memory card as a drive in Ubuntu. How do you find that out?
[07:23] <xsquared> hi there. Can someone point me in the direction of some good reading material for deploying workstations in a commercial situation? LDAP / Remote mounted /home directories etc
[07:23] <seidos> !ver
[07:23] <wizzo50> seidos: 9.10
[07:23] <seidos> !version
[07:23] <Logomachist> I'm worried that the problem would reoccur if we don't fix the underlying cause; but since you're not sure the slow fix would even work we might as well do the quick fix if that's going to fix it at least for awhile. But first, is there any way I could preserve my Main menu?
[07:23] <kermit> dm-madman:<PHONE_NUMBER>15 bytes, plus filesystem overhead.
[07:24] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, the answer is simple, in ubuntu in order to boot up every bootable section has  these lines:  "title" "uuid" "kernel" "initrd"
[07:24] <timothyarnold> mezquitale okay
[07:24] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Awesome, do you know a way of not going to the desktop with it?
[07:24] <wizzo50> !version
[07:24] <mezquitale> if you look at your fedora section in your menu.lst, it's telling ubuntu to boot up from the first partition in your first hard drive which is false
[07:24] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: sorry I don't quite follow. Could you rephrase that?
[07:25] <dm-madman> kermit: did i read that right?  just under 700GB?
[07:25] <seidos> wizzo50: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1123635&highlight=HP+Photosmart+C4640
[07:25] <kermit> dm-madman: according to my math.. unless things are listed multiple times in the ls-lR.gz
[07:25] <kermit> dm-madman: i just totaled up the 5th column in that file
[07:25] <timothyarnold> mezquitale you mean the root (hd0,0) ?
[07:25] <CoUrPsE> I set it up using F5-8 like i use to have it, but when i send something to workspace 2 (F6), my ubuntu goes to workspace as well.
[07:26] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, instead boot up into ubuntu and look for the UUID of the bootable partition in your fedora distro, remember fedora uses LVM, then  place the correct parameters in the "menu.lst"  in your ubuntu partition
[07:26] <seidos> wizzo50: if you can't scan to memory card, then just pull the .jpg from the card
[07:26] <seidos> wizzo50: then try this program HPLIP
[07:26] <CoUrPsE> Also, When i take focus away from Xchat, when put enabled, and then put focus back, i cant see my typing.
[07:26] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, exactly( Hd0,0)
[07:26] <dm-madman> kermit: okay, so i'll just cancel that i guess...
[07:27] <timothyarnold> mezquitale i thought that *was* where the fedora boot partition was
[07:27] <dm-madman> kermit: and come up with an alternate plan
[07:27] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: ah not sure about that sorry, #compiz might have answers however
[07:27] <seidos> wizzo50: plug the printer into your computer, and check your gnome desktop
[07:27] <Peddy> Logomachist, by Main Menu, do you mean the gnome-panel Applications dialog? or what?
[07:27] <Logomachist> Yeah, that's what I meant.
[07:27] <timothyarnold> mezquitale i get that from /boot/grub/device.map on the ubuntu disk
[07:27] <seidos> wizzo50: I think mount will also list drives that are mounted, but the chances of this are slim.  you will probably have to try using HPLIP
[07:27] <rjb1> which is the standard-prefix for lua?
[07:27] <DesertEagle> hello all
[07:27] <timothyarnold> mezquitale it says (hd0) /dev/sda (the physical drive where fedora is) and (hd1) /dev/sdb (the physical drive where ubuntu is)
[07:28] <wizzo50> seidos: When I plug the memory card in the printer, a box appears called F-Spot, but I'll do what you say up above, just give me a little time. I am slow at learning these things Sorry!
[07:28] <seidos> wizzo50: I have a sd card reader on my laptop
[07:28] <DesertEagle> i removed the linux-headers package on my system and installed a previous one (compatibility issues) but when i rebooted, it says it's still using the kernel i dont want. How do i fix that?
[07:28] <shachaf> Hum. Assuming I want to be able to help someone with command-line-related things remotely -- a shared screen session would be approximately what I'm after -- would there be a simple way for them to set that up? Assume there are NATs involved and all that.
[07:28] <wizzo50> seidos: There printer is already plugged in
[07:28] <timothyarnold> mezquitale do i need that root (hd0,0) line at all in menu.lst?
[07:28] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, dont use (hd0, 0) use the same as the other entries in the "menu.lst" file, pput the "uuid" and then "kernel" and then "initrd"
[07:29] <shachaf> (I've managed to set it up on my own computer with SSH tunneling and creating a specialized user and various flags and so on, but that's rather complex.)
[07:29] <seidos> wizzo50: can you browse the contents of the memory card from ubuntu?
[07:29] <zaccour> rww, i tried that, didn't work
[07:29] <timothyarnold> mezquitale so replace that line with uuid=[the UUID]?
[07:30] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, also uses google, fedora uses lvm and I don't even know what UUID youre supposed to use in ubuntu so I suggest you goggle it, now you know what the issue is
[07:30] <timothyarnold> mezquitale okay, thanks for your help
[07:30] <mezquitale> no problem, good night
[07:30] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Aight, thanks m8.
[07:30] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: have fun!
[07:30] <CoUrPsE> heh, thanks.
[07:31] <dm-madman> mezquitale: are you a drive shifter?  you are in love with this UUID mount option, but it seems only particularly useful for portable storage devices to me.
[07:31] <seidos> wizzo50: does your photosmart c4480 allow you to scan to memory card without being plugged in?
[07:31] <DesertEagle> i removed the linux-headers package on my system and installed a previous one (compatibility issues) but when i rebooted, it says it's still using the kernel i dont want. How do i fix that?
[07:31] <Peddy> Logomachist, I don't know if there's a way to do that. Like I said, it's reversible though - if it's too harsh, you can just go back. Also, it'd make things easier for me if you said my name when you talk to me; lets me see when you reply.
[07:32] <Logomachist> Peddy: Sorry, I keep forgetting. ... OK, let's go with the solution that we know will work.
[07:32] <wizzo50> seidos: I am following them instructions on the downloading and setting up the HPLIP
[07:32] <BeardedAdmin> I can't stand UUID for identifying disks, it looks awful, requires extra steps, and doesn't do anything that udev rule can't
[07:33] <kermit> and it breaks hibernate if you reformat your swap partition
[07:33] <seidos> wizzo50: ubuntu :)
[07:33] <BeardedAdmin> and it causes no end's of pain if trying to setup RAID arrays!
[07:33] <wizzo50> seidos: right
[07:34] <wizzo50> seidos: hold on
[07:34] <Peddy> Logomachist, I think I may have found a way to save the menu, but first
[07:34] <zaccour> is kde updated by ubuntu community?
[07:34] <dm-madman> BeardedAdmin: makes your fstab look like an exercise in data encryption
[07:34] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Just seen a option to 'unfocus window', This stops going to the desktop with the application.
[07:35] <zaccour> does anyone know?...........
[07:35] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK. Open up your home directory, ctrl-h, and rename .gnome .gnome2 .gnome2_private .gconf .gconfd .config by addind a '.old' to the end.
[07:35] <BeardedAdmin> dm-madman: Yup. A major step backwards if you ask me
[07:35] <wizzo50> seidos: I am not sure what they mean on C. of Step 2: Install Dependency Packages
[07:35] <ziroday> CoUrPsE, awesome
[07:35] <Peddy> adding*
[07:35] <SnakDoc> zaccour far as i know kde keeps kde updated
[07:35] <zaccour> SnakDoc, how is that possible?
[07:35] <SnakDoc> zaccour now i but not sure who keeps repos up
[07:35] <zaccour> SnakDoc, i mean who?
[07:36] <dm-madman> BeardedAdmin: LABELs can be nice, though
[07:36] <rww> zaccour: the Kubuntu people periodically put up notifications of backports of new versions of KDE at http://www.kubuntu.org/
[07:36] <zaccour> rww, is it updated with regular updates like in gnome?
[07:36] <wadmurr> zaccour: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE#Organization
[07:37] <rww> zaccour: Ubuntu doesn't update to new major versions of GNOME after release.
[07:37] <seidos> wizzo50: I don't see "Dependency Packages"
[07:37] <wizzo50> seidos: I am not sure what they mean on C. of Step 2: Install Dependency Packages
[07:37] <zaccour> rww i meant are updates done the same way?
[07:37] <seidos> wizzo50: 2 for me says "Restart Ubuntu"
[07:37] <wizzo50> seidos: On Step 2 it is asking it
[07:37] <rww> zaccour: Kubuntu with backports is broadly similar to Ubuntu with backports, I guess.
[07:38] <seidos> wizzo50: can you copy and paste the step to me?
[07:38] <wizzo50> seidos: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/distros/ubuntu.html
[07:38] <glicks> excuse me, how can i adjust the speed at which my panels hide
[07:38] <birink_cantex> #karo
[07:39] <zebaztian> what was the command necessary to open /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules ?
[07:39] <zebaztian> gkdesu gedit?
[07:39] <seidos> wizzo50: double check your version of Ubuntu.  If you are running Heron (8.04) or Ibex (8.10) you will need to do the 2nd step under c by copying and pasting into a terminal
[07:39] <fez> gksudo I assume you mean
[07:39] <fez> or something
[07:39] <fez> i dunno
[07:39] <abe3k> Hello guys, I'm having ridiculous slow speed when writing to an external usb harddisk, its a WD 500GB harddrive with an NTFS partition, I'm copying large files which are 1 GB per file, they start at a transfer rate of 4 MB Per second, and decrease to 12 KB per second, anyone can shed a light to what could be going wrong ?
[07:39] <rww> glicks: Alt-F2, run "gconf-editor", go to /apps/panel/toplevels/[panel ID here], change hide_delay
[07:40] <wizzo50> seidos: Its Ubuntu 9.04
[07:40] <wizzo50>                 - the Jaunty Jackalope - released in April 2009.
[07:40] <wizzo50>
[07:41] <seidos> wizzo50: sudo aptitude install --assume-yes libcupsys2 cupsddk cupsddk-drivers libcupsys2-dev cupsys-bsd libcupsimage2-dev libdbus-1-dev build-essential gs-esp openssl libjpeg62-dev libsnmp-dev libtool libusb-dev python-imaging policykit policykit-gnome python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-dbus python-gobject python-dev python-notify python python-reportlab libsane libsane-dev sane-utils xsane
[07:41] <seidos> wizzo50: copy and paste that line in your terminal
[07:41] <wizzo50> seidos: Copy all that
[07:41] <wizzo50> ok
[07:41] <seidos> wizzo50: that's what it says to do
[07:42] <abe3k> Hello guys, I'm having ridiculous slow speed when writing to an external usb harddisk, its a WD 500GB harddrive with an NTFS partition, I'm copying large files which are 1 GB per file, they start at a transfer rate of 4 MB Per second, and decrease to 12 KB per second, anyone can shed a light to what could be going wrong ?
[07:42] <wizzo50> seidos: I am just afraid I am going to do the wrong thing and screw the computer up
[07:42] <seidos> abe3k: are you copying the files in a terminal?
[07:42] <glicks> rww, do i have to restart gnome then?
[07:42] <seidos> wizzo50: running aptitude install shouldn't cause a problem
[07:43] <CoUrPsE> Can i get comp specs on desktop wallpaper sorta thing?
[07:43] <abe3k> seidos : I tried both terminal and nautilus, they both start fast then decrease to very low speeds
[07:43] <Logomachist> Peddy: I can't seem to rename them from within the new account I just created.
[07:43] <rww> glicks: no, it should apply instantly.
[07:43] <Blizzerand> hey CoUrPsE
[07:43] <wizzo50> seidos: ok, you know that but I am just new at all this within the last few months and still learning
[07:43] <t393r> #karo
[07:43] <CoUrPsE> Hi.
[07:43] <Peddy> Logomachist, right - open a terminal and type 'su username'
[07:44] <seidos> wizzo50: take your time
[07:44] <wizzo50> seidos: oK, it finished
[07:44] <Peddy> then move the files using the 'mv' command. like 'mv .gnome .gnome.old'
[07:44] <wizzo50> seidos: now what?
[07:44] <CoUrPsE> All this GUI stuff is harder than tty*
[07:44] <Peddy> Logomachist, then rename the files using the 'mv' command, like 'mv .gnome .gnome.old'
[07:44] <seidos> wizzo50: what is the next step?
[07:44] <wizzo50> seidos: was that just step 2
[07:45] <seidos> wizzo50: step 3:  Download HPLIP
[07:45] <wizzo50> ok
[07:45] <zebaztian> when i open 60-persistent-storage.rules it's blank
[07:45] <zebaztian> can someone help me figure out why this is
[07:45] <seidos> wizzo50: just take your time and do each step.  it should work
[07:45] <seidos> abe3k: what kind of external usb drive is it?
[07:46] <abe3k> seidos : WD 500 GB
[07:46] <domino14> wtf? ubuntu just updated my firefox and now it wont open
[07:46] <Peddy> Logomachist, FYI, .gnome .gnome2 house configuration files.
[07:46] <domino14> i click firefox and it says starting firefox and it just quits!
[07:46] <glicks> does alltray not work in compiz
[07:46] <zaccour> i want to install kubuntu-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop. can i do both at the same time in synaptic or do i have to do one at a time?
[07:46] <timothyarnold> question: could a boot hang indefinitely if a mount from fstab isn't able to happen?
[07:47] <seidos> abe3k: I searched the forums for wd 500 gb performance and found this link:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1150108&highlight=wd+500gb+external+usb+performance
[07:47] <wizzo50> seidos: Ok, it downloaded it to my Desktop
[07:47] <Peddy> Logomachist, after that, log out and log into your other account. .gnome etc will be recreated using the Ubuntu default. You probably want to put the some of the subdirectories from your .config.old in the newly created one, if they pertain to programs you are certain don't affect GNOME (ie, torrent client prefs). Then, you can systematically restore your old .gnome files using this method, logging out and in each time, until it breaks agai
[07:47] <Peddy> n. Then you'll see what caused it. Once you found the offending folder, just delete it, and restore all your other configuration folders (it's probably just 1 file that caused the problem).
[07:48] <wizzo50> seidos: It says to enter this command: tar xvfz hplip-3.9.8.tar.gz
[07:48] <wizzo50> seidos: Where at?
[07:48] <timothyarnold> my booting of Fedora is hanging without any error messages and I'm not sure why. Does someone know how to make things more verbose to tell me what's going on?
[07:48] <rjb1> i couldn't find XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext what does it means?
[07:49] <domino14> ubuntu updated my firefox and now it wont start
[07:49] <domino14> god damn it
[07:49] <zaccour> i want to install kubuntu-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop. can i do both at the same time in synaptic or do i have to do one at a time?
[07:50] <seidos> wizzo50: go to a terminal.  you want to go to the directory the file is in.
[07:50] <Blizzerand_> zaccour : Its better to do one at a time
[07:50] <seidos> wizzo50: and copy and paste the tar command in the terminal
[07:50] <wizzo50> I did
[07:50] <zaccour> Blizzerand, whats the command to remove everything ubuntu-desktop?
[07:51] <Blizzerand_> zaccour : First install kubuntu
[07:51] <zaccour> Blizzerand, ok then what?
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[07:51] <FloodBot1> joe__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:52] <rjb1> i couldn't find XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext what does it means?
[07:52] <zafron> domino13: check that you are not running moe than 1 instance of firewall....
[07:52] <Logomachist> Peddy: I logged back in to my original account but there's no change.
[07:52] <zebaztian> i'm tryign to paste a file on etc/udev/rules.d but it won't let me do it, i am doing it on the gui
[07:52] <Linux-idiot> I have a noob question, I am going to: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/et/linux/  to grab ET and the source pops up, should I just save file as and run it in terminal or...  I'm pretty tired, Ive been on here for about
[07:52] <zebaztian> how can i sudo on this?
[07:52] <Linux-idiot> 14 hours
[07:52] <Peddy> Logomachist, is the old wallpaper gone?
[07:52] <wizzo50> seidos: file:///home/wizzo50/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[07:52] <Blizzerand_> zaccour :Are you sure you want to remove very single component of gnome
[07:53] <Logomachist> Same default wallpaper. I never customized it.
[07:53] <zaccour> Blizzerand, yes
[07:53] <Linux-idiot> how do you get rid of the system beep?
[07:53] <wizzo50> seidos: I acidently closed the wrong thing but took a screenshot of it, with what it said
[07:53] <dserban_> so when I hit ctrl-alt-f1, I get a black screen, any reason known why?
[07:53] <MeXTuX> I have succesfully mounted a NFS export on Windows XP. I'm working on a file server project for a customer. My question is: Do I have to create a system user for every user that is going to work on the server files??? (don't speak english quite well)
[07:54] <seidos> wizzo50: that file isn't on the Internet.  you would have to upload it somewhere.  facebook?
[07:54] <seidos> what does everyone else use for posting screenshots?
[07:54] <wizzo50> yea
[07:54] <seidos> !screenshot
[07:54] <Logomachist> Peddy: Same default wallpaper. I never customized it.
[07:54] <Blizzerand_> zaccour : Here is the link , but , the first command  from the terminal (To remove every gnome app)  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:54] <seidos> !screenshot | wizzo50
[07:54] <zaccour> Blizzerand, thanks
[07:54]  * seidos loves ubottu
[07:55] <wizzo50> seidos: I have never uploaded on facebook and am not sure how to do it there
[07:55] <zebaztian> help, i want to open /etc/udev/rules.d with privileges on the gui from the terminal, what do i have to type?
[07:55] <Peddy> Logomachist, hmm. bizarre. You're completely sure you renamed .gnome .gnome2 and every other file I said?
[07:55] <Blizzerand_> zaccour ; but its not at all recommended though , you could run both you know
[07:55] <rjb1> what does it means configure: error: Could not find XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext?
[07:55] <seidos> wizzo50: ubbotu says http://tinyurl.com/imagebin
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[07:56] <Logomachist> There was no .gnome - I deleted it earlier in my attempts to fix the problems as per directions I found on the web. The rest of the files I renamed as you instructed.
[07:56] <dm-madman> joe__: wtf was that
[07:56] <seidos> !flooding | joe__
[07:56] <Aviram> hey
[07:56] <hossam> hello i installed compiz-fusion, then removed it with apt-get remove --purge now i cannot get ubuntus default "Visual Effects - Extra" to work
[07:56] <Aviram> I got my hdmi working
[07:56] <Blizzerand_> zebaztian : first make it executable . to do so sudo chmod 777 /etc/udev/rules.d . Then you can use it without the help of the terminal if thats what you meant
[07:57] <seidos> Aviram: cool
[07:57] <Peddy> Logomachist, you said you haven't customised this login. How long have you had it for?
[07:57] <dm-madman> seidos: that wasn't even a flood, was it?  it looked like a malfunction of some sort
[07:57] <wizzo50> seidos: http://imagebin.org/63565
[07:57] <hossam> what should i reinstalled to fix ubuntus "Visual Effects - Extra" feature
[07:57] <Aviram> and my sound, but I wonder which program is good for playing HD?
[07:57] <Aviram> I tried VLC, was bit choppy on the big screen
[07:57] <Logomachist> A couple months. Maybe 3. Not too long.
[07:57] <wizzo50> seidos: Did you get it
[07:57] <Aviram> oh and I wonder how can I make the HDMI output pass to the TV sound also?
[07:58] <seidos> wizzo50: clicking on it now
[07:58] <zebaztian> Blizzerand, can you explain a little bit more specifically, i am not used to operating on the shell
[07:58] <Logomachist> I customized the applications menu to make it look like the one I had in WinXP, that's about it.
[07:58] <Aviram> anyone? D:
[07:58] <Logomachist> Peddy: I customized the applications menu to make it look like the one I had in WinXP, that's about it.
[07:58] <brutus> hey, how to give global key bindings to rhythmbox?
[07:58] <hossam> Aviram: what hdmi port are you using, motherboard or other?
[07:58] <Linux-idiot> when I run rmmod pcspkr it says operation not permitted....  Can I get some help here?
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[07:58] <seidos> wizzo50: black on white, interesting choice of colors.  hmmm, let me see
[07:58] <Aviram> I think of my graphic card, hossam, I have a laptop, dv6
[07:58] <Aviram> It came with it.
[07:59] <Blizzerand_> zebaztian : I think i m confused , you want to edit /etc/udev/rules.d without using the terminal right !!
[07:59] <seidos> joe__: it makes no sense to me :(
[07:59] <Linux-idiot> when I run rmmod pcspkr it says operation not permitted....  Can I get some help here?
[07:59] <hossam> Aviram: oh ok, i recently installed a sound card (asus xonar hdav1.3) which is currently not supported for hdmi audio out
[07:59] <Aviram> anyone knows a good proggy to run HD movies?
[07:59] <brutus> Aviram, vlc
[07:59] <CoUrPsE> brutus, Setting these in System/preferences/keyboard shoutcuts should work.
[07:59] <Aviram> Brutus, VLC is a bit choppy in the LCD
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[08:00] <hossam> what should i reinstall to fix ubuntus "Visual Effects - Extra" feature i broke it with compiz-fusion
[08:00] <Aviram> no any other better HD Movie watching?
[08:00] <Linux-idiot> when I run rmmod pcspkr it says operation not permitted....  Can I get some help here?
[08:00] <zebaztian> Blizzerand, i just did what i wanted to do, i pasted the files
[08:00] <Blizzerand_> Linux-idiot : What ever you are doing use sudo with it
[08:00] <seidos> wizzo50: did you type cd ~/Desktop first?
[08:00]  * dm-madman thinks someone should really kick joe__
[08:00] <wizzo50> seidos: http://imagebin.org/63567
[08:00] <Aviram> brutus, anyone?
[08:00] <wizzo50> seidos: no
[08:00] <Peddy>  Logomachist, I'm sorry, I've exhausted my knowledge. Perhaps someone with more experience could help you. If you're going to ask, make sure you explain how running gnome-panel makes the panel appear, and how window decoration still doesn't appear. You could always move all your settings (seeing as it doesn't look like it's their problem) and data onto a newly-created user account. Good luck!
[08:00] <Flannel> joe__: Please stop that.  Please use english, ad a normal encoding in this channel.
[08:00] <pravins> can some one guide me
[08:01] <pravins> how can i install lohit fonts in ubuntu?
[08:01] <wizzo50> In the terminal?
[08:01] <seidos> wizzo50: you need to type that first.
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[08:01] <seidos> wizzo50: yes
[08:01] <kermit> why can i never get the screen to power down on any loptop in any version/install of linux?
[08:01] <seidos> !spam
[08:01] <DigitalKiwi> joe__: WHAT
[08:01] <dm-madman> wow, and there's ONE op in here...
[08:01] <Linux-idiot> dude, I should have figured that one out, blizzerand, thanks
[08:01] <brutus> Aviram, HD movies run fine in vlc for me, don't know any better players
[08:01]  * pravins saying something off-topic :(
[08:01] <Aviram> :<
[08:01] <Blizzerand_> zebaztian : I don't get your question quite really
[08:02] <Aviram> so maybe it's a hardware issue?
[08:02] <dm-madman> okay, thanks Flannel
[08:02] <zebaztian> Blizzerand, it worked thank you
[08:02] <Logomachist> Peddy: OK... thanks for your help so far.
[08:02] <CoUrPsE> lol.
[08:02] <Peddy> Logomachist, I'm sorry I couldn't help more. Goodnight.
[08:02] <Aviram> What's your hardware? Brutus, I have 4530 ATI HD and T something, 2 gHz
[08:02] <Blizzerand_> zebaztian : Glad you got it , np
[08:02] <Aviram> I think it should run HD fine.. :o
[08:03] <brutus> 2.1 gigs, nvidia 8600
[08:03] <brutus> Aviram,
[08:03] <zebaztian> is there a way to check if my laptop has a bluetooth device?
[08:04] <metellius> I'm running ubuntu off one harddrive, but I want to install it on another harddrive that I just formatted. is it possible to simply start the installer from the cd and do it from there?
[08:04] <Aviram> Brutus?
[08:04] <noshelter> does anybody here have experience with cpufreq-selector? i've underclocked my cpus, but at times it goes at a higher freqs, is that normal?
[08:04] <Blizzerand_> metellius : You could install ubuntu in any hd
[08:04] <wizzo50> seidos: On Step 4, I am not sure which mine is, 32 or 64? What do I type in next?
[08:05] <Doc-Saintly> I just put a radeon 4650 card into my ubuntu box and the hdmi isn't putting out sounds. any ideas? I see a lot of forum posts describing the problem but no fix
[08:05] <wizzo50> seidos: on the ./configure?
[08:05] <seidos> wizzo50: hold on
[08:06] <DanXbix> how do i fix system paths
[08:06] <wizzo50> seidos: It doesn't tell you for version 9.10
[08:06] <Blizzerand_> DanXbix : How do you mean by *fix system path*
[08:07] <Aviram> brutus..?
[08:07] <seidos> wizzo50: try this first, sudo apt-get install hplip
[08:07] <brutus> Aviram, 2.1 gigs, nvidia 8600
[08:08] <noshelter> cd /somethin
[08:08] <noshelter> ups
[08:08] <noshelter> wrong window
[08:08] <joe__> ok
[08:08] <Aviram> hmm
[08:09] <noshelter> so nobody played with cpufreq-selector :-< ... ?
[08:09] <Aviram> maybe I need to install some codecs? or the built-in codecs of VLC are enough?
[08:09] <joe__> G"ļ┬ĮÉxmeŅ@~eGčÓ ī^Į▄ī·╩æÉĢ]Rī	]ļļl┼┬č©bĢų«<{÷©Z×5½¾äą©
[08:09] <joe__> still?
[08:09] <wizzo50> seidos: http://imagebin.org/63568
[08:09] <DanXbix> like i have todo this all the time PATH=$PATH:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
[08:09] <joe__> =/
[08:09] <wizzo50> seidos: There is a screenshot above, is that what you wanted?
[08:10] <Flannel> joe__: not anymore
[08:10] <joe__> ?
[08:10] <mostafa_> can anyone give me the link how to mount partitions manually?
[08:10] <DanXbix> i added a cross compiler t
[08:10] <Flannel> joe__: Looks like pidgin is fixed?
[08:10] <joe__> ?
[08:10] <DanXbix> and been playing up since
[08:10] <mostafa_> can anyone give me the link how to mount partitions manually with editing the fstab?
[08:10] <seidos> wizzo50: type hplip
[08:10] <rww> !ntfs | mostafa_
[08:10] <G_A_C> u
[08:11] <rww> !fstab | mostafa_: or maybe this
[08:11] <joe__> ctrl c didnt work and someone told me /exec -o cat /dev/random would fix it, it hasnt and now im sad
[08:11] <mercutio22> hello is it possible to share GPG keys from each entry in the sources.list file?
[08:11] <Munna> helo every us and buntus
[08:11] <mostafa_> rww: thanks dude
[08:11] <seidos> wizzo50: skip to this step, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/hp_setup.html
[08:11] <mercutio22> I mean
[08:11] <mercutio22> between two pcs
[08:12] <wizzo50> seidos: http://imagebin.org/63569
[08:12] <mercutio22> I need to list the keys in a file so I can add them at another pc
[08:12] <DanXbix> like i have todo this all the time PATH=$PATH:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
[08:12] <DanXbix> and been playing up since
[08:12] <rww> mercutio22: see "man apt-key". you probably want "apt-key exportall" and "apt-key add <filename you saved output from last command to goes here>"
[08:12] <seidos> wizzo50: sorry dude, I'm kind of tired.  skip to this step http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/hp_setup.html
[08:13] <Blizzerand_> mostafa_ : but you simply could use mount -t command
[08:13] <wizzo50> seidos: What is CUPS or YaST?
[08:13] <seidos> wizzo50: cups is "unix printing system"
[08:13] <wizzo50> seidos: I am too, no problem
[08:13] <seidos> wizzo50: I forget what the c stands for
[08:13] <mostafa_> Blizzerand_: thank you for your info ;)
[08:13] <jmarsden> !cups
[08:13] <seidos> I should go to sleep soon
[08:14] <racha> Gnea: u are here :) ?
[08:14] <mostafa_> rww: what is the difference between ntfs and ntfs-3g?
[08:15] <wizzo50> seidos: I got to get up for the #1 Nebraska CORNHUSKER state football game at 1:00
[08:15] <Munna> i have a quick question will real vnc cope with x11vnc because im using realvnc on a windows computer and im using x11vnc on an african ubuntu computer now i wanted to know if i typed : vncviewer <HOSTNAME>:5920 will it connect and will i be able to controll the windows computer. i realy need this so that i can be trained for the practice of P.C.O (Penitration of Computers Organisation)
[08:15] <wizzo50> seidos: But anyway
[08:15] <Blizzerand_> DanXbix : I am not sure about which way of specifying a path  are talking about  ;sorry
[08:15] <seidos> wizzo50: I have to wake up for a day long meditation session at 8am
[08:15] <racha> Any1 here can help me with pulseaudio, or anything else to get my 5.1 to work ?
[08:16] <rww> mostafa_: ntfs-3g has support for reading and writing ntfs partitions. ntfs can only read from them.
[08:16] <wizzo50> seidos: oh boy
[08:16] <wizzo50> all for you
[08:16] <rww> mostafa_: ntfs has been around forever, ntfs-3g is relatively new (only been stable for a few years)
[08:16] <mostafa_> rww: thanks and what 3g itself?
[08:16] <seidos> wizzo50: thankfully not all for me
[08:17] <mostafa_> rww: thanks and what is 3g itself?
[08:17] <Munna> Does anyone know the answer
[08:17] <wizzo50> seidos: I just wanted to get a letter mailed out tomarrow before I left and need to scan a copy of it for myself
[08:17] <Munna> !wait
[08:17] <hemant_> hello
[08:17] <Munna> oh
[08:17] <wizzo50> seidos: That is why I was wanting to get this scanner setup on here
[08:17] <hemant_> hay what happening
[08:17] <seidos> wizzo50: I'm just doing my best to help a fellow ubuntu dude
[08:17] <hemant_> here
[08:17] <Blizzerand_> !hello |hemant_
[08:18] <hemant_> help  me
[08:18] <hemant_> ubottu pls help me
[08:18] <Blizzerand_> !ask hemant_
[08:18] <wizzo50> seidos: You are. And I appreciate it all. I help others to in with whatever I can.
[08:18] <wizzo50> not just computers
[08:18] <Blizzerand_> !ask |hemant_
[08:18] <racha> !pulseaudio
[08:18] <hemant_> what is dis
[08:18] <hemant_> ???????????/
[08:19] <Blizzerand_> hemant_ : What is your question
[08:19] <rww> mostafa_: no idea. I'd assume it's the third major attempt at writing a driver for ntfs ("3rd generation" = 3g), but am not sure.
[08:19] <hemant_> is dis live chat room
[08:19] <seidos> wizzo50: sudo hp-setup, then you're out of terminal and in a gui
[08:19] <wizzo50> seidos: Is their someone else that can continue so you can go to bed. I don't see sedsedsed on here
[08:19] <mostafa_> rww: very good thank you man ;)
[08:19] <Blizzerand_> hemant_ : Yes can't you see that already
[08:20] <seidos> wizzo50: I'm already in bed :).  go ahead and execute su hpsetup, I'm not sleeping yet
[08:20] <wizzo50> seidos: It went into a HP Device Manager - Setup now
[08:20] <racha> Any1 here can help me with pulseaudio
[08:20] <Blizzerand_> racha : What do you need help with
[08:21] <Sassy> hello there. I'm looking to install yahoo! messenger 7
[08:21] <seidos> wizzo50: yes!
[08:21] <Sassy> can someone please help?
[08:21] <Munna> does anyone know the answer to my question?
[08:21] <Munna> :/
[08:21] <zaccour> i'm using kubuntu and use to ubuntu, where is add/remove at?
[08:21] <wizzo50> seidos: Its a usb port
[08:21] <wizzo50> So tha 1st one
[08:21] <Munna> zaccour: use the kickstart
[08:21] <racha> Blizzerand: idk how to set it up to hear something ... and one more thing i need to change some of my ports on Sound card to be like on this picture http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[08:21] <MeXTuX> Which one is the best? NFS or Samba?
[08:22] <Munna> !kubuntu
[08:22] <zaccour> Munna, where is kickstart?
[08:22] <administrator__> how to format pen drive
[08:22] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: use Pidgin instead. it's already there.
[08:22] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : I think its possible only to install an older version or use wine
[08:22] <Blizzerand_> !wine | Sassy
[08:22] <Sassy> I've tried I don't know how to use it... please help
[08:22] <Munna> zaccour:  its the same thing like in gnome applicatins
[08:22] <administrator__> how to format pen drive using g parted
[08:22] <wizzo50> seidos: I clicked on next and no device found
[08:23] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: don't know how to use Pidgin?
[08:23] <zaccour> Munna, i don't see kickstart in applications menu
[08:23] <seidos> wizzo50: is your printer plugged into the usb port and is it turned on?
[08:23] <Sassy> No Ten-Eight....
[08:23] <zaccour> Munna, i found it
[08:23] <zaccour> Munna, thanks
[08:23] <mostafa_> rww: last thing what is "locale=en_US.utf8" in this command "/dev/hda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0" for?
[08:23] <Munna> zaccour: its like the windows thing
[08:23] <wizzo50> yes, I returned it off and back on now
[08:23] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : Did you try it via wine
[08:23] <administrator__> how to format pen drive using gprarted
[08:24] <administrator__> how to format pen drive using gparted
[08:24] <racha> Blizzerand: can u help me with that or no ?
[08:24] <zaccour> administrator__, format it to fat32
[08:24] <mostafa_> rww: it is an example in your suggested link
[08:24] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: I am assuming that you already have a yahoo account?
[08:24] <Sassy> No Blizzerand... I'm so sorry I'm new to all of this but I have Wine Installed.
[08:24] <wizzo50> it even has red error in the Terminal box
[08:24] <Sassy> I do have a Yahoo Account Ten-Eight
[08:24] <administrator__> what is the command
[08:24] <rww> mostafa_: it sets the locale for file names. If you have files named using some script other than Latin (e.g., Japanese characters, etc.), you'd want to change that, otherwise it should be fine.
[08:24] <oye[N]k> can someone help me..?
[08:25] <wizzo50> seidos:  it even has red error in the Terminal box
[08:25] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: okay then, open up Pidgin and go to Accounts (on the menu bar).
[08:25] <seidos> wizzo50: terminal box?  you mean in hpsetup?
[08:25] <Sassy> Done Ten_Eight
[08:25] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: Select "manage accounts"
[08:25] <oye[N]k> why when i login in my pidgin...after that its closee
[08:26] <mostafa_> rww: then if  I have two file name types just add that
[08:26] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: then click on ADD
[08:26] <administrator__> what is the command
[08:26] <mostafa_> rww: like this
[08:26] <administrator__> to format pen drive
[08:26] <rww> mostafa_: I don't know, to be honest. I've never had to use that option.
[08:26] <Sassy> Yes Ten-Eight
[08:26] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: from there, select your protocol from the drop down list...Yahoo is almost at the bottom.
[08:26] <Sassy> ok Ten-Eight
[08:26] <mostafa_> rww: np dude thanks for your response ;)
[08:26] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: enter your yahoo ID and password
[08:26] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : Do as Ten-Eight says or install it via this link http://download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[08:27] <wizzo50> seidos: http://imagebin.org/63570
[08:27] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: click "Remember password" so you won't have to enter it everytime.
[08:27] <administrator__> what is the command to format pen drive on ubuntu 9
[08:27] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : Its quite an old vers though as you can see
[08:27] <wizzo50> seidos: In the Terminal, I sent a screenshot of it
[08:27] <ziroday> administrator__: you can use gparted to do that in a nice graphical way
[08:27] <mercutio22> rww: thanks
[08:28] <administrator__> how its do
[08:28] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: then click the ADD button at the bottom and you should be good to go.
[08:28] <administrator__> how i find gparted
[08:28] <wizzo50> seidos: Then what?
[08:28] <oye[N]k> :(
[08:28] <oye[N]k> why nobody answer
[08:28] <Blizzerand_> administrator__ : try this http://girnartech.blogspot.com/2008/12/how-format-pen-drive-in-ubuntu.html
[08:28] <Sassy> Thanks Ten-Eight.... You're awesome! Thanks so much for your help! and also Blizzerand!!
[08:28] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand is correct, the Linux ver of Yahoo is an old one.
[08:29] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: you are soooo welcome!  Glad to be of service :)
[08:29] <wizzo50> \join #unity-coders
[08:29]  * Blizzerand_ huggles Ten-Eight
[08:29] <racha> Any1 here can help me with pulseaudio
[08:29] <seidos> wizzo50: I don't know.
[08:29] <Sassy> I am very grateful for all the help! Keep up the excellent work peeps! :)
[08:29] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_ heh heh...thanks :)
[08:30] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: have fun!
[08:30] <wizzo50> seidos: What time tomarow night will you be on here?
[08:30]  * Blizzerand_ is great fan of empathy but not pidgin
[08:31] <Sassy> What is empathy? Another Chat server?
[08:31] <seidos> wizzo50: I'm on every day.  I'll probably on at around 7 pacific
[08:31] <seidos> *be
[08:31] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_: I have not tried Empathy yet. I read it's included in 9.10 instead of Pidgin...is this correct?
[08:31] <jmarsden> !empathy
[08:31] <wizzo50> seidos: Thanks for you help. ok. Talk to you another time on it. Bye
[08:31] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: it's another IM program.....like Pidgin.
[08:31] <wizzo50> seidos: Goodnight
[08:31] <jmarsden> Sassy: empathy is a newer instant messaging client program, not a server
[08:31] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : Its something better than pidgin and yes Ten-Eight , its included in 9.10
[08:32] <Sassy> how I get that??
[08:32] <Sassy> lol
[08:32] <racha> Any1 here can help me with pulseaudio
[08:32] <Ten-Eight> heheheheh.....dontcha wanna learn Pidgin first? :)
[08:32] <seidos> wizzo50: I hope we can get it working.  good night dude.
[08:32] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : Download it
[08:32] <Logomachist> When I log into Ubuntu I get a blank desktop with a mouse cursor and my wallpaper and that's it. The panels don't appear and alt + F2 doesn't work. By pressing the help button I can get a help window to appear but it is stuck in the upper left hand corner of the screen with no menu or title bars; I can't move it around or resize it.
[08:32] <Sassy> nope.... I think it's not working for me.... It says there is an error...
[08:32] <seidos> is there a difference between su and sudo?
[08:32] <wizzo50> seidos: Thanks!
[08:32] <Logomachist> I can still get to the command line via ctrl+alt+F1, and using that I got gnome-panel running with some assistance. But even then the window decoration still doesn't appear. If I log in to another account the panels and window decorations do work. Thinking the problem might lie with my settings files I deleted user settings files such as .gnome and .gnome2 to no avail.
[08:33] <seidos> !su
[08:33] <jmarsden> seidos: Yes there is a difference
[08:33] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: Pidgin not working for you?
[08:33] <Logomachist> So seems my problem is particular to one account but not tied to the user preferences. Any suggestions?
[08:33] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : from terminal --> sudo apt-get install empathy , but I think you'd be better off with pidgin for now
[08:33] <Sassy> No - I get this Error Unknown error number 1013. Logging into the Yahoo! website may fix this.
[08:33] <zaccour> how do i know what version of kubuntu i am using?
[08:33] <seidos> jmarsden: do you think su vs. sudo would keep hp-setup from working right?
[08:33] <jmarsden> zaccour: lsb_release -rd
[08:34] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: what version of Pidgin are you using?
[08:34] <jmarsden> seidos: Pretty unlikely
[08:34] <Dantonic> HI seidos
[08:34] <seidos> hi Dantonic
[08:34] <Sassy> I'm not sure of the version
[08:34] <zaccour> jmarsden, thanks
[08:34] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: mine is the latest. version 2.6.1
[08:34] <Blizzerand_> administrator__ : Did it solve the prob
[08:34] <zaccour> is the array kernel worth installing?
[08:34] <jmarsden> zaccour: No problem.
[08:34] <rww> !empathy is an instant messaging and video chat client for GNOME. In !karmic, Empathy will replace Pidgin as the default IM client.
[08:34] <rww> zaccour: no
[08:34] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: click on HELP in the top right of the Pidgin main window
[08:35] <zaccour> i think gyachi should be the main IM client
[08:35] <zaccour> can i install gyachi in kubuntu?
[08:35] <Sassy> Just A sec
[08:35] <Blizzerand_> zaccour : Never tried that lol
[08:35] <Sassy> Pidgin 2.5.5
[08:35] <Dantonic> hey seidos, never got that network to fire back up after suspend.  I remember last time before I left for work you had some kind of other suggestion... you said something along the lines of: if I knew it was gonna be this difficult I would have had you do ...something... What where you talking about would you remind me?
[08:35] <Dantonic> seidos,  if you remember
[08:35] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: yeah...you need a later version.
[08:35] <Blizzerand_> zaccour : Is it in ubuntu repos
[08:36] <owen1> i installed something with 'python setup.py install'  how do i uninstall it?
[08:36] <Sassy> how do I get it Ten-Eight
[08:36] <Sassy> ??
[08:36] <jmarsden> Blizzerand_: No, http://array.org/ubuntu/
[08:36] <mostafa_> rww: I wanna write the command that copy the current address to other place what should I do?
[08:36] <zaccour> Blizzerand_, no i had to install it from sourceforge before
[08:36] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: visit the Pidgin website - http://www.pidgin.im
[08:36] <seidos> Dantonic: ohhh yeah.
[08:37] <zaccour> i'm new to kde but so far it looks better than gnome
[08:37] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: download from there.
[08:37] <seidos> Dantonic: what did we talk about?  I don't recall?
[08:37] <rww> mostafa_: I don't know what you mean, can you rephrase?
[08:37] <seidos> oops -?
[08:37] <zaccour> seems a bit slower though
[08:37] <Sassy> Thanks Ten-Eight - You're AWESOME!!!
[08:37] <seidos> I still have to figure out how to check my log in irssi
[08:37] <diogo_79> hi
[08:37] <Dantonic> seidos, cant remember we tried a bunch of things then we never where able to get it to work... I think you asked me to see the "interface" file or something?
[08:37] <mostafa_> rww: I wanna copy a folder contents to other place ok?
[08:38] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: when you go there, you'll get instructions on how to get the latest version. Just follow along and you'll be good.
[08:38] <Blizzerand_> jmarsden : What was that link about
[08:38] <zaccour> how do i unmount my sd card in kde?
[08:38] <seidos> Dantonic: ohhh yeah, ethernet port not working after suspend
[08:38] <seidos> Dantonic: but after restarting it works, right?
[08:38] <rww> mostafa_: "cp -R /path/to/source /path/to/destination"
[08:38] <seidos> Dantonic: do you have a posting on the forums?
[08:38] <diogo_79> anyone knows how to gadmin openvpn client works?i cannot find any tutorial on the web
[08:38] <mostafa_> rww: yeah I know this
[08:38] <Sassy> Thanks Ten_Eight!! More than Thankful!!! Bless!!
[08:38] <jmarsden> "Is it in Ubuntu repos" (regarding the array kernel)
[08:38] <Dantonic> seidos, yes that's right.  I don't have post on forums but I have a bug listed
[08:38] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: your very welcome :)
[08:38] <zaccour> jmarsden, no
[08:39] <mostafa_> rww: I wanna put it in the script
[08:39] <seidos> Dantonic: you may want to list something on the forums too...attack the problem at all angles :).
[08:39] <Blizzerand_> jmarsden : Just for security reasons , sorry
[08:39] <Dantonic> seidos, good Idea, think I'll do that
[08:39] <Sassy> I keep getting a network error
[08:39] <mostafa_> rww: and when ever I run that script it copies the folder cnotent in that current address
[08:39] <mostafa_> rww: got me?
[08:39] <seidos> Dantonic: what is your user name on the forums?
[08:40]  * Blizzerand_ yawns
[08:40] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: you will...the old version you have will not connect to the Yahoo IM server as Yahoo made some changes recently.
[08:40] <seidos> Dantonic: I'm going to bed.  I'm thinkingfrog on the forums.  good luck, good night all
[08:40] <Dantonic> seidos, to be quite frank I've never posted there, so I'll have to create one
[08:40] <Blizzerand_> !yawn
[08:40] <Replop> Hi !
[08:40] <hellues> hey
[08:40] <hellues> i need help
[08:40] <Dantonic> seidos, ok thanks I will talk to you another time!
[08:40] <hellues> !!!
[08:41] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_: you gotta stop that...it's catching ;)
[08:41] <hellues> i cant write data to cd k3b,brasero,cdrecord produce an error
[08:41] <Replop> I just burned a Ubuntu  dvd .  what's the nickname of  9.04 ?
[08:41]  * Blizzerand_ hides
[08:41] <hellues> damn it
[08:41] <Blizzerand_> Replop : Jaunty
[08:41] <jmarsden> Replop: Jaunty Jackalope
[08:41] <Replop> thks
[08:41] <Blizzerand_> I call it JJ lol
[08:42] <linuxguy2009> How would I go about running "sudo hdparm -S 3 /dev/sda" which sets my netbook hdd spindown time from 1min default down to 15sec to save battery power? Is there a file I simply add it to and it will run automatically on bootup without asking for a password?
[08:42] <hellues> hwy
[08:42] <ruby_on_tails> i installed pidgin on ubuntu, where can I find its directory ?
[08:42] <hellues> help me pls
[08:43] <hellues> .pidgin
[08:43] <Ten-Eight> ruby: hellues is correct.  look in your home directory for .pidgin
[08:43] <ruby_on_tails> ok
[08:44] <Blizzerand_> hmm these #fedora guys are quite nice
[08:44] <hellues> hye
[08:44] <hellues> pls someone help
[08:44] <Blizzerand_> !ask | hellues
[08:44] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_: been a long time since I talked to the fedora guys. been ubuntu for such a long time now.
[08:45] <ruby_on_tails> thanks :)
[08:45] <Ten-Eight> ruby: you're welcome. enjoy.
[08:45] <hellues> i have a problem when i try to writre data to cd or make iso image
[08:45] <Blizzerand_> Ten-Eight : I am much of a Fedora fan . Fedora rocks (no offense)
[08:45] <hellues> brasero, k3b, cdrecord gives an error opt ends with an error
[08:46] <hellues> cd is blank and clean
[08:46] <majnoon> they took out mp3 players (afraid of getting sued)  :(
[08:46] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_: none taken...I used to used it full time with FC2,3 and 4.
[08:46] <hellues> i guess ubuntu has a problem in writing cd
[08:47] <Blizzerand_> Ten-Eight : I've been a fan since F6 i think
[08:47] <Ten-Eight> hellues: what are you trying to burn?  music, data or video?
[08:47] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_: I've not used FC6.
[08:47] <hellues> data
[08:47] <hellues> rar files
[08:47] <Blizzerand_> Ten-Eight : It was buggy , worst but still I stayed with it
[08:48] <hellues> i try to burn cd with rar files everytime i took an error
[08:48] <hellues> and my cd becoming trash
[08:48] <BellinXFelon> can someone help me install a tar.gz file ive never done it before, i can pastebin the readme for the install
[08:48] <aaron113> here we are barba papa
[08:48] <hellues> because i cant use cd anymore
[08:48] <aaron113> helo pepole
[08:49] <Ten-Eight> hellues: I've used only Brasero.  Don't know why it wouldn't work for you unless the CD blanks are bad or cheap.
[08:49] <hellues> brasero always produce an error
[08:49] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : tar.gz are compressions like that of zip . First uncompress it and tell me what is it off
[08:49] <Ten-Eight> hellues: I have had problems with cheap cd-r's that gave errors and had to toss it.
[08:49] <hellues> Ten-Eight,  wait a second
[08:50] <snooky> hello
[08:50] <Blizzerand_> !hi | snooky
[08:50] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_: i have already uncompressed it, i just need to install it
[08:50] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_:I can pastebin the install instructions
[08:50] <shrey> is it necessage to install source code when we r installing from a PPA.
[08:50] <hellues> !hi | ubottu
[08:51] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : Please do that , what is it off ,
[08:51] <jmarsden> hellues: If you pastebin the comamnds you are using and the actual error somewhere, so we can see them,  we may be better able to figure out what is happening...
[08:51] <jmarsden> shrey: Not if the PPA has binary packages in it, no.
[08:51] <hellues> okey i do that
[08:51] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_:It is nicotine 1.1.12 the newest version
[08:51] <hellues> but how can i learn capacity of dvd
[08:52] <Blizzerand_> !info nicotine
[08:52] <shrey> jmarden: actully i m upgrading my open office from 3.0 to 3.1 so there are two links one is main and another is souce code. i m only installing main as i dont want my memory space to fill..will it work
[08:53] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : D
[08:53] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : Download from the ubuntu repos .  From terminal --> sudo apt-get install nicotine
[08:53] <jmarsden> shrey: You don't nee dsource code unless you want to compile it, and you definitely do not want to try to compile OpenOffice.org yourself :)
[08:53] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_: I am locating the install
[08:53] <shrey> jmarsden: thanks...
[08:54] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : Its the newest version in ubuntu repos (I think) and it much easier to install it that way
[08:54] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_: it says its already the newest version, which isnt true
[08:54] <jmarsden> hellues: cddrecord --atip should get you info on the media (blank CD or DVD) in your drive.
[08:55] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_: We gotta do the tar.gz file
[08:55] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : Sorry dude , but I actually have to leave , ask somebody else here
[08:55] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_:ok
[08:55] <jmarsden> BellinXFelon: Then you should learn how to package stuff for Ubuntu, or wait for someone else to package it for you... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[08:55] <Ten-Eight> hellues: OR you just look at the dvd...most say what their capacity is.
[08:55] <snooky> i dont really good speakt english but i need help with truecrypt, how can halp me?
[08:56] <hellues> no
[08:56] <hellues> dont ay anything
[08:56] <hellues> cdrecord --atip i do that
[08:56] <hellues> is sai┼¤d unknown capacity
[08:56] <moonos> hi, i'm using moonos and i want to change font (gtk). how do i do that?
[08:58] <genii> moonos: Maybe ask in #lxde
[08:59] <moonos> but it's running enlightment on 'gtk' libs
[08:59] <moonos> e17 or something
[08:59] <moonos> lxde is a totally different de isn't it?
[08:59] <jmarsden> hellues: Sounds liek it is not recognizing your blank CDs very well...
[08:59] <genii> moonos: moonOS is based on an lxde desktop
[09:00] <moonos> i'm using the new v3, which is totally e17
[09:01] <moonos> 16.999.060
[09:02] <Ten-Eight> hellues: I don't know the command for getting that info. does it not put a little icon of a dvd on the desktop for you when you insert it?
[09:02] <genii> moonos: Since theres no one in #e17 and #moonos doesn't exist, your best bet is still #lxde for answers.
[09:02] <DigitalKiwi> genii: ...
[09:03] <moonos> ok, thanks. dumb question but, how do i get there? i'm new to irc
[09:03] <genii> moonos: /join #lxde
[09:03] <moonos> thanks!
[09:03] <aaron113> does anyone know why my mouse clicks and keybord types dont get through my x11vnc connection? im using jaunty and a person called subcomandante controld mine with his mouse and he had no problem why do i have these problems is there a setting i have to change
[09:03] <genii> DigitalKiwi: ?
[09:03] <aaron113> please pm me thank you! :)
[09:05] <jmarsden> hellues: Does   dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/dvd    get you more info about your DVDs?
[09:06] <aaron113> does anyone know why my x11vnc mouse clicks and keyboed taps isnt getting through?
[09:09] <aaron113> holy crap
[09:09] <aaron113> lot of people goes and comes
[09:09] <pengwyn> yeah
[09:09] <pengwyn> busy distry
[09:09] <pengwyn> distro even
[09:09] <W12345> why can't I find beryl in the repo of Ubuntu?
[09:09] <aaron113> ok can someone tell me how to add a fourm
[09:10] <pengwyn> add a forum in what?
[09:10] <aaron113> ubuntufourms
[09:10] <pengwyn> ask at the url it's on
[09:11] <pengwyn> They may not want it
[09:11] <pengwyn> any help bots in here?
[09:11] <racha> any1 can help me to setup pulseaudio on my 5.1 ?
[09:11] <aaron113> pengwyn: can you help me with my problem
[09:12] <jmarsden> !ubottu | pengwyn
[09:12] <pengwyn> aaron113-  it's a forum, owned by a domain, contact the admin of the forum, or the admin of the domain
[09:12] <metellius> my linux keeps kernelpanicing when I try to format my new harddrive. but whats more scary, is this panicing seems to trigger data loss bugs on my old ext4 installation. first random programs wouldnt run, now X wont run because it complains about missing system files
[09:12] <Artemis3> or ask in the forum :)
[09:13] <metellius> is this the legendary ext4 data loss bug?
[09:13] <aaron113> pengwyn: huh no i meant do you know why my mouse clicks and keybord taps arent getting through my x11vnc connections
[09:13] <Artemis3> metellius, i suspect hardware failure, check memory with memtest
[09:14] <pengwyn> !ubottu help
[09:14] <Guest71965> rabbitshit.
[09:14] <aaron113> pengwyn: can you help me
[09:14] <racha> any1 can help me with pulseaudio ?
[09:14] <aaron113> racha: i can
[09:14] <metellius> Artemis3: how long would you estimate testing 8 gb of ram?
[09:14] <pengwyn> what vnc what mouse, what keyborard what kvm
[09:14] <jmarsden> pengwyn: Don't experiment with a bot in the channel, .msg ubottu whatever and then chat with it/him
[09:15] <aaron113> racha: allmost everyone can
[09:15] <pengwyn> jmarsden-  I tried
[09:15] <racha> aaroll3: i need to get it to work  http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[09:15] <jmarsden> pengwyn: Then try agin or youyr IRC client is broken... works for me :)
[09:15] <pengwyn>  /msg ubottu  thing  nothing
[09:15] <Artemis3> metellius, i'd leave it until all standard tests are done at least twice, just in case...
[09:15] <racha> aaroll3: i need to change uotput Jack's to get my 5.1 to work
[09:16] <pengwyn> sorry jmarsden
[09:16] <aaron113> racha: ? what the hell is that ! :/
[09:16] <aaron113> :-/
[09:17] <metellius> Artemis3: does it say standard tests then?
[09:17] <racha> aaronll3: that is how i need it to get ... i get it to work ... but he have diferent Jack ouputs from my Windows .. now i need to change Outputs Jac's
[09:17] <aaron113> racha: i dx11vncont know any information about hardware
[09:17] <pengwyn> jmar xchat
[09:17] <pengwyn> er ychat
[09:17] <Artemis3> metellius, if you just start memtest, it does all standard tests by itself
[09:17] <racha> aaeon113: Its 113 or ll3 ?:D
[09:17] <metellius> Artemis3: ok, ill do that. thanks
[09:18] <pengwyn> aaron113-  I don't know what's wrong with your X11 vnc connection
[09:18] <aaron113> racha: i dont know information about windows or macs and even hardware
[09:18] <aaron113> 113 stupid internet wont work
[09:18] <aaron113> pengwyn: can we try it?
[09:18] <racha> aaron113: ok anyway i just need to change Jack Outputs because pulseaudop dont use corects
[09:19] <pengwyn> I don't have a VNC setup for the public aaron113  Or i would
[09:19] <racha> aaron113: pulseaudio*
[09:19] <Artemis3> racha, in terminal, do alsamixer -c 0 and try moving these :)
[09:20] <pengwyn> aaron113-  make sure you have rules in your iptables to let it through
[09:20] <jmarsden> racha: This is probably specific to whatever make and model of audio card (or on-motherboard audip chip) you have.
[09:20] <pengwyn> aaron113- check your keyboard, and mouse are actually working.
[09:20] <racha> Artemis3: there i can just + or - Sound ... but i need to change outputs
[09:20] <jmarsden> Artemis3: That adjusts levels not which physical jack maps to which input or output :)
[09:21] <racha> jmarsden: someone say me its possible to change outputs with pulseaudo so i installed it :S but i cant find how to change it :S
[09:21] <GPL> how to format a usb drive (to prepare it for a bootable installation) in ubuntu ?
[09:22] <Artemis3> racha, those things... hmm are shown in alsamixer too, if you see some without volume but just some value you can change, such as input from linein vs mic, etc. i forgot exactly and it does change with different cards
[09:22] <Artemis3> racha, and press TAB too
[09:22] <jmarsden> racha: It's possible pulseaudio can do that, but I don't know the specifics, my audio card doesn't do software jack remapping.
[09:23] <Artemis3> racha, its pg-up pd-dn to change the values once you find them
[09:23] <duckx0r> i'm having problems with this new widescreen monitor I bought. When KDM loads I can get to the login screen just fine with the max resolution of the monitor, but when KDE loads the screen gets all distorted as if it is out of the range of the monitor. Setting it in Xorg.conf seems to do the same with anything above 1024x768. How can I get into KDE with 1366x768 like it should be?
[09:24] <racha> Artemis3: u talk about alsamixer -c 0 ? there is Card: HDA NVidia but i need to config My C-Media sound card not onboard one ... or PulseAudio
[09:24] <Artemis3> racha, then its not 0 :) might be 1? you have more than one it seems
[09:26] <pengwyn>  /msg ubottu  help
[09:27] <jmarsden> pengwyn: That had a space at the front, try without the space :)
[09:27] <Keiffer> how can i see if someone is shhing in my machine?
[09:27] <thore> hi guys
[09:27] <racha> Artemis3: i can just change it to use Mic out as Bass/C and Linein as L/R
[09:27] <jmarsden> Keiffer: If they actually logged in, w   will show their login session.
[09:27] <duckx0r> nevermind I got it working yay! the stupid monitor says it is capable of 1366x768 but it's only capable of 1360x768. so setting it to that setting worked. Stupidity of AOC
[09:27] <jmarsden> Keiffer: Also read /var/log/auth
[09:27] <Keiffer> thank you, jmarsden
[09:27] <racha> Artemis3, but i dont need to get it like on http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[09:28] <Artemis3> racha, i don't know if the alsa driver can handle those things for your card model, you did press TAB so views changes to ALL no?