[15:13] <ccapndave> Hey everyone - I have a super-simple server running on an Ubuntu VM, listening on port 3000.  I can access it at localhost from the machine itself, but not at <IP_ADDRESS>:3000 from the host machine.  Other servers (apache on 80, postgres on 5432) work fine and netstat shows node listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:3000.  Does anyone have advice on how to debug?
[15:14] <ntz> iptables
[15:14] <ccapndave> I *think* its empty
[15:14] <lapion> hmm why is the screen fifo location hardcoded to be on the root filesystem. if you want to make a backup of the root fs while keeping the console freed you cannot
[15:14] <ntz> *think* != know != is :)
[15:14] <dexterity> I need to revamp my company's datacenter (multi UPS setup, master monitoring server). Where can I find some sources/info on how to do this best?
[15:14] <susundberg> ccapndave: try with tool that will surely work that nc -l -p 3000
[15:14] <ccapndave> ntz: https://gist.github.com/ccapndave/0a588e7acc37f70f4587
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> ccapndave: you can also nmap between machines to see whats happening
[15:15] <susundberg> (netcat to listen port 3000 on localhost) then redo the connection attempt from the host to nc <myiphere> 3000 -- if no connection then something is blocking the connection
[15:15] <ubuntuaddicted> ccapndave, can you use nmap?
[15:15] <ccapndave> nc has the same effect
[15:16] <ccapndave> ubuntuaddicted: I never heard of it, but sure
[15:16] <ccapndave> ubuntuaddicted: What do I do :)
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> !info nmap | ccapndave
[15:16] <susundberg> the nmap will do little help, it will just show the open ports IMHO
[15:16] <ntz> ccapndave: can you show me the unmodified output from `iptables-save -c'
[15:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ccapndave, from another computer run nmap -P0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ccapndave, that will port scan that ip address
[15:16] <ccapndave> ntz: https://gist.github.com/ccapndave/d3590ee5a867da0dd6a2
[15:16] <kenchow> **
[15:16] <ntz> omg
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> -sV can be usefull for services aswell
[15:17] <ubuntuaddicted> ccapndave, should show you all the ports that are open and what's listening
[15:17] <ntz> ubuntuaddicted: please, no input for a while
[15:17] <susundberg> ccapndave: that output is from the virtual machine you are trying to connect to ?
[15:17] <ccapndave> right
[15:18] <ntz> ccapndave: no, it's iptables
[15:18] <ccapndave> iptables on the virtual machine I am trying to connect to
[15:18] <ntz> ccapndave: you said they are empty
[15:18] <susundberg> ccapndave: thats dropping all input traffict excatly else than 22,80 and 443 ?
[15:18] <ccapndave> susundberg: It is?
[15:19] <ntz> but they are not ... just turn them temporarily down and check from remote machine that you can access a <IP_ADDRESS>:3000
[15:19] <susundberg> Well it sure looks like it
[15:19] <ubuntuaddicted> ntz, i find it rather rude of you to ask me not to attempt to help another ubuntu user. more so in the way you asked me. maybe next time simply say, "this is a firewall issue, i'll help him"  instead of telling me "no input for a while"
[15:19] <ccapndave> ubuntuaddicted: Here is the nmap output https://gist.github.com/ccapndave/74de524b723bf2bcafbc
[15:19] <ntz> ubuntuaddicted: sorry, don't take it personal
[15:19] <susundberg> ccapndave: how did you create those firewall rules ? with some program ?
[15:19] <ccapndave> susundberg: Guess you are right :)
[15:19] <ubuntuaddicted> ntz, i'm only saying you could've phrased your comment to me differently is all.
[15:20] <ccapndave> susundberg: I never touched them - I thought they were the default
[15:20] <ubuntuaddicted> ccapndave, it's a firewall issue and i'm not versed enough to help with that. good luck though
[15:20] <ccapndave> ubuntuaddicted: Thanks :)
[15:21] <susundberg> ccapndave: you are running what version of ubuntu excatly ?
[15:21] <ccapndave> susundberg ntz: So this says to only let through 22, 80 and 443?  https://gist.github.com/ccapndave/0a588e7acc37f70f4587
[15:21] <ccapndave> Ahhh
[15:21] <ccapndave> I see it now
[15:21] <ccapndave> multiport ports ssh, https, http
[15:21] <ntz> ccapndave: i already told you that's iptable issue .. just copy one rule from `iptables-save', change it to open port 3000, place before the last INPUT directive DROP and restart fw
[15:21] <ccapndave> oops
[15:22] <susundberg> ccapndave: yeah, INPUT chain is for "incoming traffic" and it ends up with "DROP packet" if "no rule matches"
[15:22] <ccapndave> susundberg: I see it now
[15:22] <ccapndave> susundberg: Its a vagrant box, so I guess someone has fiddled with it slightly before I got hold of it
[15:22] <ccapndave> Ok, trying it now...
[15:22] <susundberg> ccapndave: ntz above ^- said well how to fix it that should do it
[15:22] <f00dWorksta> hi I am having trouble updating ubuntu-docs after upgrading to 14.10 http://pastebin.com/F9Eb5XEa
[15:23] <funkt> Hi there I am having trouble connecting a second monitor and getting to recognise or even scale it to the right proportions. I have plugged in another monitor and it seems to work but it just will not recognise my monitor on a dual settings under nvida settings any ideas?
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> f00dWorksta: maybe a bleachbit cleanout might help?
[15:24] <ntz> ubuntuaddicted: and okay, if you feel touched without any reason I can give you one: please don't ask unmethodically (so no generic nmap against host - at least rather nmap -vv -sT -P0 host -p $some_port) for scanning things when you have to first check that 1) it runs, 2) nothing is hindering its run (selinux, iptables)
[15:24] <f00dWorksta> lotuspsychje: already done so
[15:24] <ntz> ccapndave: no, that's pretty usual setup
[15:24] <f00dWorksta> lotuspsychje: ok i feel dumb, I just removed the package and installed it again and it works haha
[15:24] <susundberg> yeah i also agree -- what kind of solution is "just run nmap" if he just had tried that nc wont go trough ..
[15:24] <pbx> funkt, Displays settings doesn't offer the resolution choices you want?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> !yay | f00dWorksta
[15:25] <ccapndave> ntz I guess I just kind of assumed the firewall came empty
[15:25] <funkt> no they dont i have also tried to set modes in xrandr and that is not working either
[15:25] <ntz> ccapndave: there is just firewall having that configuration, so don't break anything and add there a rule similar to one opening 80 but for tcp 3000
[15:25] <ccapndave> ntz: Just changed and restarted, trying it out now
[15:26] <ccapndave> etc/iptables2/rules.v4 right?
[15:26] <ntz> ccapndave: if in doubts, show us please an `iptables-save -c'
[15:26] <f00dWorksta> lotuspsychje: next question... how do I free inodes? It seems like that was the main issue
[15:26] <ccapndave> ntz susundberg: Hooray!
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> f00dWorksta: not sure on that one
[15:26] <sacarlson> ntz: ccapndave or just take down the firewall unless you have other users on virtual or docker that you want to limit
[15:26] <ccapndave> ntz susundberg: Thanks a lot :)  I learnt something today
[15:26] <ntz> ccapndave: frankly, I don't know, I don'[t have buntu. I came here to also ask question (yet unaswered) so maybe I need to work it out
[15:27] <ccapndave> ntz: What's the questions?
[15:27] <ntz> I'm addressing the issue of one customer having ubuntu .. I don't have ununtu myself so please that's why I am asking .. how do I restart one particular interface when the etc/network/interfaces files is used (no NM) ? the interface name is in this case ppp0
[15:27] <ntz> ? ifdown ppp0; ifup ppp0
[15:27] <ntz> ccapndave: ^^ nothing hard :D
[15:27] <ubuntuaddicted> ntz, asking him to run a port scan against the host would provide a path to of troubleshooting, just because it's not the way you would do it doesn't make it any less effective. this is an open irc channel, telling others "how" to help someone is not your place in my opinion.
[15:27] <ccapndave> ntz: Right
[15:27] <ntz> I only need to hear a strong "yes, it works like that in ubu"
[15:27] <ntz> good, thanks
[15:27] <ccapndave> ntz: It works like that in ubuntu afaik
[15:28] <ntz> good, thanks .. so I'm happy now
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> we are all volunteers indeed, no harm in investigating users issues
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> the more info we gather, the better the help
[15:29] <ubuntuaddicted> ntz, i appreciate the extra knowledge you shared with me regarding nmap, i only wanted to express how your comment to me came across. i've done that and you also spoke your peace so now lets move on. :)
[15:29] <ntz> ubuntuaddicted: sorry, it's really annoying that I touched you .. I really didn't want to .. I only told you, that "effort != effectiveness" and that I'd ask completely differently
[15:31] <ubuntuaddicted> ntz, i appreciate the apology but it's not really neccessary. just wanted to share how it came across to me. :
[15:34] <user_> dcvfgs
[15:35] <pi94> hello there, I'd like to install moodle on ubuntu. for that I need to install apache first, but then it says:
[15:35] <pi94> Package apache is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[15:35] <pi94> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[15:35] <pi94> is only available from another source
[15:35] <pi94> E: Package 'apache' has no installation candidate
[15:35] <lapion> pi94, apache2
[15:35] <ubuntuaddicted> pi94, it's probably apache2
[15:36] <sacarlson> pi94: also be sure to sudo apt-get update ;
[15:36] <pi94> lapion, ubuntuaddicted, indeed, when I tried with apache2, it says that it is already installed
[15:37] <somsip> pi94: apache2
[15:37] <dbugger> Hi guys. I was wondering if there is a way to know what kind of webserver is running on the machine?
[15:37] <ubuntuaddicted> pi94, ok, then what's the next issue? apparently you already have apache2 webserver installed.
[15:37] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, who's machine?
[15:38] <pi94> for the same purpose, I also need to install mysql, but last time I installed it, I must have done sth wrong, because after that every time I installed a programme, the terminal gave an error message concerning mysql.
[15:38] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, ubuntu by default doesn't install any web server.
[15:38] <pi94> so what would be the correct way to follow to install mysql?
[15:38] <somsip> pi94: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[15:38] <dbugger> ubuntuaddicted, my machine. I have started a VPS running GitLab (an image frommy provider), and I want to switch to SSL, so I need to know for what webserver im configuring
[15:38] <Simplar> hi, is anybody knowing c++ well enough here? I'd like to ask on how can I get a direct access to keyboard's driver using a c++. Thanks.
[15:38] <ubuntuaddicted> pi94, mysql can be tricky. it's a database. you probably were getting an error because it wasn't allowing you to connect to the datebase as user root or as your user. what guide are you following?
[15:39] <sacarlson> dbugger: you can try ps -A  ;  or sudo netstat -pant
[15:39] <Jinxed-> I'm trying to setup a system with my host OS (Ubuntu) which is hosting multiple VMs. I would like my host OS to have access to the internet, but I would also like it to have a connection on my private VM LAN
[15:39] <Jinxed-> what would I need to do to make this possible
[15:39] <Jinxed-> I tried to enable a second NIC in virtualbox as host only, but that didn't seem to work
[15:39] <Jinxed-> I'm wondering if I need a loopback address or something in Ubuntu
[15:39] <Jinxed-> instead
[15:39] <pi94> ubuntuaddicted, it is this guide: https://docs.moodle.org/28/en/Step-by-step_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu
[15:39] <linelevel1> Hi, my Ubuntu server's root partition just filled up with a large db, so I moved the db's data files to a new partition, and `rm -rf`'d the data directory... but `df -h` still shows my disk at 100% used. How do I get it to reflect the free space from the files I just removed?
[15:39] <dbugger> sacarlson, that did output something about nginx, so I guess that works. But if the config is not under /etc/nginx, where could it be?
[15:40] <pi94> the guide says mysql-client needs to be installed, too
[15:40] <rberg_> dbugger: look in /etc/nginx/sites-enable
[15:40] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, you could try which nginx
[15:40] <rberg_> dbugger: look in /etc/nginx/sites-enabled
[15:40] <somsip> pi94: it'll be pulled in as a dependency when you install -server
[15:40] <pi94> oh, ok, thank you somsip
[15:41] <ubuntuaddicted> linelevel1, are you sure you mounted the new partition to the new folder you created? what does mount show?
[15:41] <dbugger> rberg_, as I said, "/etc/nginx" does not exist
[15:41] <dbugger> ubuntuaddicted, that didnt output anything
[15:42] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, which command?
[15:42] <linelevel1> ubuntuaddicted: Yes, the mount worked fine, and that's irrelevant to the `rm -rf` command I issued.
[15:42] <pi94> it seems to be a long list of eerie command lines (for me) ..anyone has experience installing moodle?
[15:42] <jimmy51v_> i just had a broken package... linux-firmware-nonfree.  It reported "half-installed".  the usual tricks of `apt-get install -f`, `dpkg --configure -a` didn't work.  specifically saying `apt-get install -f linux-firmware-nonfree` DID work.  why did specifying the package help?  i thought apt-get install -f fixed all broken dependencies?
[15:42] <ubuntuaddicted> linelevel, what's the rm -rf command you raan (very dangerous NO ONE run this command please)
[15:43] <dbugger> ubuntuaddicted, "which nginx" didnt return anything
[15:43] <ubuntuaddicted> pi94, i do not but i can honestly say that the only reason im comfortable with the command line is that i followed plenty of guides in my day. you just have to sit down and be patient and do them step by step.
[15:43] <somsip> dbugger: sudo netstat -tulpn | grep ":80" (will give you a possible hint)
[15:43] <linelevel> ubuntuaddicted:  I ran `sudo rm -rf /var/lib/postgresql/9.3/main/*` -- I can verify that the dir is now empty (whereas previously `du -sh` showed that it contained 22 GB).
[15:43] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, than it's not installed in your $PATH
[15:43] <sacarlson> Jinxed-: do you still want the virtual systems to also have internet access.  that normaly the default
[15:44] <dbugger> somsip, that gave me that the port 80 is open with nginx, but not where it resides the config
[15:44] <dbugger> ubuntuaddicted, so how could I find it?
[15:44] <ubuntuaddicted> linelevel, than you still have something that's using space on /, which is why i asked if mounting your partition really worked
[15:44] <somsip> dbugger: configs are installed in /etc by default, unless it's in a non-default location. So /etc/nginx
[15:44] <pi94> ubuntuaddicted, sounds soothing, thank you :)
[15:44] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, sudo apt-cache search nginx
[15:45] <dbugger> somsip, Then it is in a non-default location. My question is how can I find it?
[15:45] <Marcel-Maze7> linelevel: i dont read the hole conversation but have you tries purge ?
[15:45] <dbugger> ubuntuaddicted, that gave me some packages, but no locations
[15:45] <linelevel> ubuntuaddicted: I just deleted 22 GB from that dir, but `df -u` still shows only 5.5 MB (MB!) free. And yes, the mount worked, as I can verify with `mount` (also, I created the mountpoint with `-m 000` to prevent writing files without a mount).
[15:46] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, was there an i on the left hand column of the results?
[15:46] <linelevel> Marcel-Maze7: purge what? It's not a package, I deleted the contents of a data directory
[15:46] <sacarlson> dbugger: how did you install it?  from there they must provide docs on how it is configured
[15:46] <somsip> dbugger: long way? sudo find / -iname "nginx*" but it will go through the whole HD
[15:46] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, sorry, i'm used to using aptitude. try sudo apt-cache show nginx
[15:47] <ubuntuaddicted> linelevel, i'm saying that something is still using space. you need to find what.
[15:47] <dbugger> ubuntuaddicted, that gave me a loooot of output, but nothing on a location
[15:48] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, does it say it's installed
[15:48] <dbugger> sacarlson, I did not install it. It is a start image of my provider
[15:48] <dbugger> ubuntuaddicted, I do not see that info anywhere
[15:48] <sacarlson> dbugger: ic
[15:48] <somsip> dbugger: then maybe dpkg -L nginx | grep conf
[15:48] <Marcel-Maze7> linlevel: you have broken
[15:48] <Marcel-Maze7> dependencies, right?
[15:49] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, ok, let's back up here. you're trying to figure out what webserver you have on your machine right?  are you sure you have a webserver running?
[15:50] <dbugger> ok guys. I think i found it. It is somehow embedded into gitlab. I found something about nginx on "/var/opt/gitlab/nginx"
[15:50] <dbugger> ubuntuaddicted, of course. I use the web of gitlab daily
[15:51] <sacarlson> ubuntuaddicted: yes dbugger knows he has nginx installed and running as seen in ps -A
[15:51] <dbugger> Apparently the image I am using has nginx somehow embedded into Gitlab... bizarre
[15:51] <Marcel-Maze7> strange :D
[15:51] <dbugger> In any case, I should be able to turn on SSL from here...
[15:51] <dbugger> it is weird, because there is not even an sites-enabled folder. The structure is all different
[15:51] <dbugger> :P
[15:52] <ubuntuaddicted> dbugger, probably because gitlab has nginx pre-packeged with it to make it easy for people to deploy gitlab
[15:52] <dbugger> ubuntuaddicted, probably. Thanks for the help, guys!
[15:56] <f00dWorksta> ok so I have a folder in /root named "QM9j2NnXbn" that contains 2.2million 0byte randomly named files... I will delete it, but should I be concerned?
[15:56] <Techguy305> hey room how everyone ?
[15:58] <caveman> can ubuntu run on iMac desktop totally fine?
[15:58] <tim^x230> Hey! Any ideas on how to bind the menu key to printscreen (prsc) using setxkbmap? setxkbmap -option prsc:menu does not do the trick…
[16:01] <Chuck_Norris> tim^x230: open dash, write: shortcut   disable de default shorcut then click no "customize shortcuts" create your own shortcut for opening dash
[16:02] <Chuck_Norris> click on*
[16:03] <wolfshiem> t
[16:05] <linelevel> ubuntuaddicted: So, apparently my `rm -rf` didn't hit directories, nor did it throw an error... now I need to figure out why `sudo rm -rf /path/to/data/*` did not remove the directories in /path/to/data.
[16:07] <jimmy51v_> linelevel: didn't get a 'directory not empty' message?
[16:07] <linelevel> ubuntuaddicted: It didn't remove the files in there either.. is something wrong with my syntax?
[16:07] <linelevel> jimmy51v_: No, note the -f
[16:07] <pi94> hello, me again. I am following the installation guide for moodle, and there the download of moodle package is step 4, while I'd already downloaded it from ubuntu repos. can I / should I deinstall it in order to follow the guide properly?
[16:07] <jimmy51v_> linelevel: sudo?
[16:08] <linelevel> jimmy51v_: Yes, I said I used sudo.
[16:08] <pi94> by the way, there is a spammer with the nick jortanna
[16:08] <Chuck_Norris> linelevel: try the same sommand with -v so you will see what is happening
[16:08] <Chuck_Norris> linelevel: sudo rm -rfv /path/to/data/*
[16:10] <linelevel> Chuck_Norris: http://pastebin.com/9H76pbkg
[16:10] <linelevel> This makes no sense to me.
[16:11] <sacarlson> linelevel: to remove including dir sudo rm -rf /path/to/data  ;  if it didn't delete the files inside then the dir at that location might be mounted as read only
[16:11] <linelevel> sacarlson: It's not mounted as read-only, it's on my root partition, and I can verify via `mount`. Also, that would have thrown an error.
[16:11] <jimmy51v_> linelevel:  sudo -rm -rfv /var/lib/postgresql/9.3/main/*
[16:12] <jimmy51v_> linelevel: if that doesn't work, try moving it
[16:12] <jimmy51v_> sudo mv ./main ./main_copy
[16:12] <linelevel> jimmy51v_: I don't think you meant to put the - before rm
[16:12] <jimmy51v_> yeah... sudo rm -rf
[16:12] <linelevel> jimmy51v_: And otherwise, your command is exactly what I ran originally.
[16:12] <linelevel> verbatim
[16:12] <jimmy51v_> try moving it
[16:13] <linelevel> jimmy51v_: Moving the whole dir works fine.
[16:13] <jimmy51v_> linelevel: ok.  move it out somewhere.  recreate empty dir
[16:13] <sacarlson> linelevel: can we see a paistbin of mount ?
[16:14] <linelevel> but I want to figure out why I can't remove it. I don't want to recreate the parent dir and its permissions.. that would work, but I'm more curious now as to why rm isn't doing anything
[16:14] <Chuck_Norris> linelevel: linelevel try:  usermod -G postgresql ubuntu
[16:14] <linelevel> sacarlson: sure, coming up
[16:14] <Chuck_Norris> linelevel: then try remove those files
[16:14] <sacarlson> linelevel: otherwise maybe some strange /etc/sudoer config
[16:16] <linelevel> sacarlson: This is an AWS EC2 instance, with the default 64-bit Ubuntu 14.04.1 image, installed fresh a few min ago (no sudoer changes, but I created a couple of users: postgres and repmgr)
[16:16] <linelevel> sacarlson: http://pastebin.com/jfB50mXV
[16:16] <Chuck_Norris> linelevel: su - postgres
[16:16] <Chuck_Norris> then try rm...
[16:17] <linelevel> Chuck_Norris: That won't work; I can become the `postgres` user with `sudo su postgres`, but I want to know why sudo can't do the rm... that's more important to me than getting it done at this point.
[16:18] <sacarlson> linelevel: I don't know what this mount value means discard??  /dev/xvda1 on / type ext4 (rw,discard)
[16:19] <maddawg> so i'm having an issue with the ftp command
[16:19] <linelevel> sacarlson: Not sure, AWS set that by default upon spinning up this instance.
[16:19] <linelevel> Chuck_Norris: It's also worth noting (maybe) that /var/lib/postgres is the home dir for the postgres user.. so I'm operating on a subdir thereof.
[16:19] <maddawg> from my memory if i go ftp to a remote server and type "ls" i should get a listing of the the remote server
[16:19] <Chuck_Norris> linelevel: whats says:  sudo grep ^\%sudo /etc/sudoers
[16:20] <shortCircuit__> hello, anyone here!!
[16:20] <maddawg> right now if i use the "ls" command it doesnt list the directories it only says the follwing:
[16:20] <linelevel> Chuck_Norris: Returns one line: %sudo	ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[16:20] <Chuck_Norris> linelevel: sudoers it's ok, idk brotha -.-
[16:21] <maddawg> ftp> ls
[16:21] <maddawg> 200 EPRT command successful
[16:21] <maddawg> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
[16:21] <maddawg> 226 Transfer complete
[16:21] <sacarlson> linelevel: I was looking at the wrong mount any way it's this one /dev/xvdb on /var/data type ext4 (rw,noatime,_netdev)
[16:21] <linelevel> sacarlson: The data I'm deleting is in /var/lib, not /var/data
[16:21] <shortCircuit__> i did a sudo dd bs=4M if=~/Downloads/Ubuntu-14.04.iso of=/dev/sdd and now i cannot even format it.
[16:21] <shortCircuit__> http://pastie.org/9709849 	http://imgur.com/xUo6orp
[16:21] <shortCircuit__> I don't know where that two MS* drive come from
[16:21] <Chuck_Norris> oh! yes, if that is mounted then, there is the issue -.-
[16:21] <shortCircuit__> and why the 7.5gb became a swap
[16:21] <shortCircuit__> windows 8 too doesnot detect it.
[16:22] <sacarlson> linelevel: oh then I was wrong again
[16:22] <linelevel> sacarlson: I filled up my root partition when the db was in /var/lib, so I created a new volume, mounted to it /var/data, and copied stuff over, so I'm now trying to delete it from the original location on the root partition.
[16:24] <sacarlson> linelevel: so what your attempting to delete is mounted from the root dir /
[16:25] <linelevel> sacarlson: yES.
[16:25] <linelevel> Yes.*
[16:25] <md_test> test
[16:25] <linelevel> sacarlson: Chuck_Norris: Running `rm -rf main/` worked perfectly... so I have no idea why `rm -rf main/*` was a no-op.
[16:26] <linelevel> For some reason, the * was not matching anything in the dir (but also was not throwing an error due to having nothing to remove).
[16:26] <Chuck_Norris> linelevel: idk, even though -r aplies recursive -.-
[16:27] <Chuck_Norris> i meant, if you do -r then "*" it's unecesary i think -.-
[16:28] <sacarlson> linelevel: can you touch test.txt ; rm test.txt  ok from someplace in root dir?
[16:29] <jvwjgames> Hi i have a server compile error
[16:29] <sacarlson> linelevel: oh ok never mind missed you last line so it will delete
[16:30] <linelevel> sacarlson: Yeah, so it seems to be an issue with my rm syntax, I guess.
[16:30] <sacarlson> linelevel: ya for recursize just point it at the directory,  I will have to simulate that other /* you did
[16:30] <jvwjgames> the error is /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[16:30] <jvwjgames> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[16:30] <jvwjgames> make[2]: *** [cyphesis] Error 1
[16:30] <jvwjgames> make[2]: Leaving directory `/mmo/secure/server'
[16:30] <jvwjgames> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[16:30] <jvwjgames> make[1]: Leaving directory `/mmo/secure'
[16:30] <jvwjgames> make: *** [all] Error 2
[16:30] <unopaste> jvwjgames you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:32] <jvwjgames> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8922271/
[16:32] <jvwjgames> that link is the error i am getting
[16:33] <sacarlson> linelevel: but when I simulate what you did with rm -rf ./tmp/*  ;  I still remove all files and subdirs in ./tmp  so not sure must be in your .bashrc setup somehow
[16:34] <jvwjgames> can anyone help me
[16:36] <hellrazor> hi there
[16:37] <hellrazor> how can i switch the X-Server to another VT like tty10 instead of tty7 on default?
[16:39] <sacarlson> jvwjgames: it might help a bit to see the command line and or make file that created this and what you are attempting to do
[16:39] <jvwjgames> ok
[16:41] <linelevel> sacarlson: What should I look for in my .bashrc? I don't see any mention of the 'rm' command
[16:41] <sacarlson> linelevel: at this point nothing as you seem to have a work around, until you find other problems
[16:42] <jvwjgames> i am using the worldforge server
[16:42] <jvwjgames> i just need to add a command to the command line as it is saying DSO missing from command line
[16:42] <hellrazor> btw is there a way to tell xorg server to use another tty?=
[16:43] <hellrazor> like tty 10 in ste4ad tty7 (which is default)
[16:44] <ruukasu> my server running ubuntu has been randomly freezing to the point that networking and keyboard don't work. how can I find out what's causing this?
[16:44] <whitor> Hi all. I'm setting up an ASA 9.1 <-> ios 15.1 vpn tunnel using  ikev1 pre-shared-key  ...     I've got a pretty straightforward guide I'm following, but it is for ASA 8.x and not 9... two comands are not translating easily... Can any one assist with translating these few commands : http://pastebin.com/G2ADu0T7
[16:44] <emankin> I'd like to run a dual boot Windows 8 and Lubuntu system. What do you guys advise - in terms of which operating system to install first?
[16:44] <St1gma> ruukasu, check your hardware. I was having something similar a few weeks ago. Ended up being a harddrive
[16:44] <whitor> woops, wrong channel
[16:45] <ruukasu> St1gma: I suspect hardware because this happened on two other distros as well as freebsd. how can I figure out what it is though? ran memtest86+ and it says no errors, someone else told me to keep cpu at 100% for a while and see if it dies then, but it didn't
[16:45] <bdbit> linelevel: sacarlson: in bash, "*" doesn't match .dotfiles by default (see "dotglob" shell option), you need to either add ".*" or run "shopt -s dotglob" first. Please test first with "echo *; echo .*" etc. Be careful with "-rf" !
[16:46] <jerware> hi
[16:46] <jerware> I did an apt-get update; apt-get --upgrade-only install qtcreator # Only installed Version: 3.0.1
[16:46] <jerware> QtCreator is at 3.2.2
[16:46] <St1gma> ruukasu, check SMART. I believe that you can use smartctl to do it.
[16:46] <jerware> I need the latest version for these plugins to work.
[16:47] <sacarlson> bdbit: but that would only be file that start with .  no?
[16:47] <jerware> also... How can I determine the package version that's in the repo?  apt-cache search doesn't list the version.
[16:47] <jerware> I have to grep dpkg after installing to find out the version.
[16:47] <sacarlson> bdbit: the files I saw in the dir didn't start with .
[16:48] <bdbit> sacarlson: yes, that should be the only difference between r_m -rf ./tmp/* and r_m -rf ./tmp/
[16:48] <sacarlson> jvwjgames: is there any reason you didn't use the precompiled binary packages of your worldforge?  not that it's wrong to compile
[16:49] <jvwjgames> theres preconpiled ones?
[16:49] <jvwjgames> where?
[16:50] <sacarlson> bdbit: it still doesn't explain what I saw for linelevel  but they have a solution so we will just have to live with it
[16:50] <sacarlson> jvwjgames: 64bit?  http://sourceforge.net/projects/worldforge/files/Ember%20%28OGRE%20client%29/0.7.2/ember-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86_64/download
[16:50] <linelevel> Yeah, it makes no sense to me either, but oh well.
[16:51] <ruukasu> St1gma: they all say no errors logged
[16:51] <jerware> Why is the latest version of qt creator 3.01 ?
[16:51] <ruukasu> except boot ssd which says
[16:51] <ruukasu> fug
[16:51] <ruukasu> except boot ssd which says "error log not supported"
[16:52] <jvwjgames> i need the Cyphesis server part
[16:54] <CoinBRN> How can I add to startup an synapse instance as SU?
[16:54] <CoinBRN> If I don't start it with sudo or gksu it crashes as soon as I type anything on the search
[16:54] <CoinBRN> I'm using lubuntu
[16:55] <bazhang> CoinBRN, you never use root, it's not enabled
[16:55] <bazhang> CoinBRN, did you mean synaptic?
[16:56] <CoinBRN> well, I really mean synapse, the semantic launcher
[16:56] <CoinBRN> the one we use to open things by searching in the omnivox
[16:56] <bazhang> CoinBRN, sudo -i for a root shell, if you must
[16:58] <sacarlson> jvwjgames: did you follow the Install instruction and install the dependancies needed like Boost library 1.40 or later
[16:59] <jvwjgames> where are you reading this at link please
[16:59] <CoinBRN> bazhang: so i can't autostart synapse as super user in the startup?
[16:59] <sacarlson> jvwjgames:  Install in ghe package
[17:00] <sacarlson> jvwjgames: read the instructions in the package you downloaded
[17:00] <jvwjgames> ghe package
[17:01] <jvwjgames> link please
[17:01] <sacarlson> gth - the
[17:01] <jvwjgames> nevermind
[17:01] <CoinBRN> bazhang: anyway, I got a problem and I gotta go now, But thank you very much for the heçp :D
[17:12] <vlt> Hello. I have two Ubuntu machines (12.04 LTS). One ("remote") has no keyboard or mouse but a screen, the other ("local") no screen but keyboard and mouse. They are connected via ipv4 and I have ssh access to both of them. How can I configure the local headless one to forward every key stroke and mouse to the other machine right after booting? And how to tell the other to accept the remote control commands?
[17:13] <dmek> i manual installed fglrx on 14.10 but now ubuntu boots but hangs on the purple screen before login
[17:13] <reisio> vlt: synergy
[17:13] <gnr>  hi i'm doing 1 to 1 nat using SNAT and DNAT on a machine that is acting as a router for a webserver... but when i run tcpdump on the webserver it show the router ip instead of the actual initiator...
[17:14] <reisio> vlt: or any number of other VNC/RDP/ssh/X forwarding solutions
[17:14] <gnr> how can i present the real initiator ip to the web server??
[17:14] <gnr> what i did was... iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d <IP_ADDRESS> -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:14] <reisio> #netfilter
[17:15] <gnr> and iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j SNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:15] <proc3sarte> buenas
[17:15] <dmek> hi, i manual installed fglrx on 14.10 but now ubuntu boots but hangs on the purple screen before login. can someone help me please?
[17:18] <Symmetria> man, I knew ubuntu usage was high in east and southern africa, but Ive just been doing checks on our mirror hit rates, and its bigger than I thought
[17:18] <dmek> so i can now reinstall ubuntu because no one willing to help me?
[17:18] <Symmetria> btw, for whichever op is awake, jortanna is a spam bot
[17:19] <reisio> dmek: grep EE /var/log/X*log
[17:19] <dmek> im not in ubuntu
[17:19] <dmek> because i CANT boot it to login screen
[17:19] <proc3sarte> Buenos dias
[17:19] <reisio> dmek: then boot your live OS
[17:19] <dmek> why you request CTCP VERSION from me reisio ?
[17:19] <dmek> okay
[17:19] <reisio> dmek: to get the information it spat out
[17:19] <dmek> i dont have any.
[17:20] <dmek> reisio: pls dont kid me
[17:20] <reisio> dmek: okay, you can alter the GRUB boot options to fix it, too
[17:20] <reisio> dmek: kid?
[17:20] <dmek> *kidding
[17:20] <dmek> i thought more about removing it
[17:20] <dmek> then get it through apt instead
[17:21] <dmek> because i can't understand why it doesn't work
[17:21] <reisio> that's what logs are for
[17:21] <dmek> its designed to work with normal linux setup
[17:21] <dmek> ubuntu seems to be not normal at all
[17:21] <dmek> 14.10 gives sometimes errors, 14.04 didn't
[17:21] <sebmasta> hi
[17:21] <reisio> hi seb
[17:22] <dmek> how can i list only packages installed that i want to read?
[17:23] <reisio> read?
[17:23] <sebmasta> I am begginer in Ruby on Rails developer and want to ask you for advice. It's better for me and learning process to work only on ubuntu or it doesn't make any diffrence if i will use it on windows with virtual box?
[17:23] <sebmasta> *development
[17:24] <reisio> sebmasta: mmm, you will save yourself so much grief by using Unix systems
[17:24] <dmek> reisio: yes, i want show the package of installed fglrx
[17:24] <reisio> for Ruby in particular, but also for all things :p
[17:24] <reisio> dmek: what for?
[17:24] <dmek> desinstalled manually installed packages
[17:24] <reisio> !ops jortanna pm spam
[17:24] <jvwjgames> how do i add a dso to the command line
[17:24] <reisio> no chance of that
[17:24] <reisio> jvwjgames: a dso?
[17:24] <reisio> dmek: you can uninstall with apt-get
[17:24] <dmek> yes
[17:25] <dmek> but i need the package name
[17:25] <jvwjgames> ,/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[17:25] <reisio> dmek: 'fglrx'?
[17:25] <sebmasta> thanks
[17:25] <jvwjgames> DSO (Dynamic Shared Object)
[17:26] <dmek> how would this be: apt-cache pkgnames | grep ... rest idk
[17:26] <reisio> jvwjgames: from what command?
[17:26] <julio> hello
[17:26] <jvwjgames> what do you mean what command
[17:27] <reisio> jvwjgames: what command produces that error
[17:27] <jvwjgames> idk but i am using make to compile a server
[17:27] <jvwjgames> and it gets to that spot and stops
[17:27] <dmek> you need to geb libdl or whatever it is
[17:29] <jvwjgames> is there an easy way to find libdl
[17:29] <dmek> apt-cache search
[17:33] <jimmy51v_> i just had a broken package... linux-firmware-nonfree. It reported "half-installed". the usual tricks of `apt-get install -f`, `dpkg --configure -a` didn't work. specifically saying `apt-get install -f linux-firmware-nonfree` DID work. why did specifying the package help? i thought apt-get install -f fixed all broken dependencies?
[17:34] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/libdlrestrictions1.postinst
[17:35] <pi94> hello there, I was following this guide for installing moodle on ubuntu: https://docs.moodle.org/28/en/Step-by-step_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu
[17:35] <pi94> and where I would have to insert this: default-storage-engine = innodb
[17:35] <pi94> I pasted it in, but the arrow buttons on keyboard made the line slip down out of sight
[17:36] <pi94> the arrow buttons typed A,B,C,D when I wanted to position the above line
[17:36] <pi94> so now it is gone out of the screen, and cant bring it back
[17:36] <pi94> any terminal guru please
[17:37] <pi94> this is the vi editor, I guess, because the previous step was this: sudo vi /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[17:38] <pi94> I am not familiar with it, but it was required in this step
[17:38] <jimmy51v_> !info colordiff
[17:40] <reisio> pi94: sudo vi /etc/mysql/my.cnf is just editing a text file, as root
[17:40] <reisio> you can use any editor you like
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> vi ftw
[17:40] <reisio> arcane :p
[17:40] <reisio> go back to #bsd :p
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> reisio: its on every gnu compliant distro, so pays to learn it
[17:41] <reisio> gnu compliant, what? :p
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> :P
[17:42] <pi94> reisio, yes, the terminal entered the edit mode, and then I pasted the required line, but then there were some empty spaces, and when I wanted to move up the added line with the arrow keys, they didnt move it up, but instead moved it down out of the screen, typing only A,B,C or D on a new line each time I pressed on any one of these arrow keys
[17:42] <jvwjgames> Chuck
[17:42] <reisio> are you talking about busybox's vi?
[17:42] <jvwjgames> what is that thing for that you pasted
[17:42] <reisio> pi94: use a text editor you're more familiar with instead of vi
[17:43] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: ok, better do:  gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/libdlrestrictions1.postinst
[17:43] <pi94> reisio, I would have done that, but it was the way to do it in the guide..I  guess it should be fine when I just open the file and add the line, right?
[17:43] <reisio> pi94: yes, for the third time
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> jvwjgames: pastebinit
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> jvwjgames: accepts text streams from bash too
[17:44] <jvwjgames> empty file
[17:45] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: did you copied and pasted it?
[17:46] <pi94> how do I exit the vi editor's edit mode?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> pi94: press ESC
[17:46] <jvwjgames> it is an empty file chuck
[17:47] <Chuck_Norris> ok, then paste: locate libdl
[17:48] <agip> ciao
[17:48] <jvwjgames> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8923541/
[17:49] <agip> !list
[17:51] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: doh! no postscripts in there -.-  sure that is the whole outputs?
[17:51] <jvwjgames> yes
[17:52] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: wel, then your problems is worst than i thought :P  sry but i am declaring me incompetent -.- =(
[17:53] <jvwjgames> thanks for trying man
[17:55] <excognac> hi all, is it possible to shrink/modify partitions without data loss using a 14.04 live dvd (kubuntu)? i tried it to google the answer, couldn't find any good. also on my previous attempts kparted failed to do it (none of partitions start/end on cylinder boundary) testdisk didn't find any serious trouble on my hdd
[17:55] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: you got serius problems cause look at my output:  http://i.imgur.com/OsffWOC.png   there i got postscripts and everything
[17:56] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: if you want we could try making that postscript but, i think i wouldn't help cause the problem is worst i think
[17:56] <reisio> excognac: it's possible, and even likely, but not 100% safe
[17:58] <excognac> reisio: ok, can you advice me a good guide? I think my hdd is screwed up to some extent (recently i rewrote the partition table), couldn't yet find the solution for the current problem, most websites said it's not a problem at all.
[18:01] <jvwjgames> ok
[18:01] <jvwjgames> lets try
[18:01] <jvwjgames> and also what does a postscript do
[18:01] <Chuck_Norris> it's check when ever a program is installed
[18:02] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/libdlrestrictions1.postinst
[18:02] <e-dard> Hi, I know this may not be exactly on topic but I just created an EC2 instance with an EBS root disk (which I increased to 20GB) and the Ubuntu banner when i ssh in says “Usage of /:  9.7% of 7.74GB”
[18:02] <e-dard> But df -h says 20GB
[18:02] <e-dard> who is right?
[18:02] <e-dard> (ubuntu 14.04)
[18:03] <jvwjgames> ok
[18:03] <e-dard> I think the default AMI EBS disk is 8GB, but I don’t know if that means I only have 8GB of a 20GB disk free. Is there a way I can tell what the usable space on a disk is?
[18:03] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: in that new file copy and paste this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8923812/
[18:04] <pi94> hello, the installation process of moodle tells me 'Open your browser and go to http://IP.ADDRESS.OF.SERVER/moodle'..when I enter my current IP address (as seen on a 'what's my ip' website) the page is 'unable to connect' ..what is the 'server ip' here? I have no server.
[18:05] <jvwjgames> ok done
[18:05] <Chuck_Norris> pi94: are setting up that server from an ssh?
[18:06] <pi94> Chuck_Norris, this is the guide I am following: https://docs.moodle.org/28/en/Step-by-step_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu
[18:06] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: save the file, then close gedit
[18:06] <jvwjgames> ok i did
[18:06] <pi94> Chuck_Norris, at step 7, it asks me to do so
[18:07] <Chuck_Norris> see if the problem (at this point didn't remember it :p)  persists
[18:07] <dmek> reisio: i get this now when i starting gkrellm: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_connection_register_object: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed did i broke my installation? it seems so, cuz i had other errors too even before but i did not install any 3rd party packages before
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> pi94: you will need your LAN IP.
[18:08] <OerHeks> pi94, try http://localhost/
[18:09] <OerHeks> jortanna, please don't spam in PM, thanks
[18:10] <pi94> OerHeks, thank you. it worked when I inserted 'localhost'
[18:11] <pi94> Chuck_Norris, I could solve it by typing 'http://localhost'
[18:11] <Chuck_Norris> so glad :D thanks to OerHeks -.-
[18:12] <frenda> Error on running chromium: Illegal Instruction (Core dumped)
[18:12] <OerHeks> pi94, from an other machine, just type the IP >> https://docs.moodle.org/28/en/Installation_on_Ubuntu_using_Git see the begin part 'basic setup'
[18:13] <Chuck_Norris> pi94: the other ip that you sow is for conecction coming from outside of your lan
[18:13] <pi94> OerHeks, I dont have access to another machine right now, but I will note your hint to apply when I have it.
[18:13] <Chuck_Norris> you sow in what's my ip*
[18:13] <pi94> Chuck_Norris, oh, ok, I see.
[18:15] <k0nichiwa> anyone run os x in a VM ?
[18:15] <OerHeks> k0nichiwa, that is not allowed , see their UELA
[18:16] <k0nichiwa> OerHeks, naw its ok if u own a copy
[18:16] <k0nichiwa> besides who are u, their lawyer ?
[18:16] <pi94> Chuck_Norris, OerHeks, ActionParsnip, thank you for your help!
[18:16] <OerHeks> k0nichiwa, you are wrong, and we cannot help you with that.
[18:16] <k0nichiwa> are u a lawyer at all ? no ?  then guess what, it's illegal for u to give legal advice
[18:17] <k0nichiwa> gotta pass the bar, man
[18:17] <bazhang> !ot | k0nichiwa
[18:18] <alevosia> hey there
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> k0nichiwa: i'm a lawyer
[18:19] <k0nichiwa> well so am i
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> k0nichiwa: software piracy is something we cannot support here. The guys in #apple or #macos may be able to help
[18:19] <k0nichiwa> so congratulations
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> k0nichiwa: thanks, took me long enough
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> k0nichiwa: or ask in #vbox
[18:20] <k0nichiwa> i dont think im asking here anymore am i ?
[18:20] <reisio> OerHeks: it is allowed :)
[18:20]  * k0nichiwa seems to have been silent for awhile, can't think of why action man brought the subject up again
[18:20] <reisio> although not likely much to do with Ubuntu, if you do it the way it's allowed
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> k0nichiwa: your issue is with both MacOS and VirtualBox, not Ubuntu
[18:23] <alevosia> Does anyone know if marking the HDD "bad sectors" using a live CD is permanent?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> alevosia: I believe so, I'd recommend just buying a new drive
[18:24] <jvwjgames> error persists
[18:24] <Chuck_Norris> alevosia: it could help but, trust me, when a disk is daying, there is nothing you can do, if i were you ill be doing backups right now -.-
[18:25] <jvwjgames> ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[18:25] <potterapple> hey guys need some help here. is there andy way to reduce the swap size after installing ubunut?
[18:25] <potterapple> *ubunut
[18:26] <OerHeks> reisio, k0nichiwa for legal wannabees, virtualisation is allowed on apple-server only http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/OSX1082.pdf but not on Ubuntu.
[18:26] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: sry -.-
[18:27] <potterapple> anyone?
[18:28] <reisio> OerHeks: that's right, as we said, you were wrong :p
[18:28] <Chuck_Norris> potterapple: gparted from a live cd
[18:29] <teward> OerHeks: reisio: he was right insomuch that the initial question was related to VBox / Ubuntu virtualization of OS X (implied or otherwise)
[18:29] <potterapple> Chuick_Norris thanks i just reduce the size and thats it right?
[18:29] <teward> oops, meant to CC OerHeks on that, was targetted to reisio
[18:29] <teward> :)
[18:30] <reisio> what?
[18:30] <OerHeks> reiastill no, i am right, as the Q is posted in #ubuntu , not in an apple support channel
[18:30] <OerHeks> err reisio ^^
[18:31] <reisio> yes, and Ubuntu provides VM packages
[18:31] <teward> reisio: OerHeks was right that it's not permitted to virtualize in any OS other than Mac OS X or Apple Server, and only if the license you have permits it.  It's not permitted, and against the EULA, to virtualize Mac OS X in a non-Mac environment
[18:31] <reisio> teward: yes indeed, he was wrong :p
[18:31] <Chuck_Norris> potterapple: yes it is, if you don't open heavy or too many programs at the same time and then hibernate, then you don't need more than 1 gb
[18:31] <teward> reisio: therefore, it's not permitted to virtualize Mac OS X in VBox in Ubuntu
[18:31] <OerHeks> ...
[18:31] <reisio> teward: sure it is, it's just unlikely
[18:32] <teward> reisio: the implication from OerHeks was, that because this is an #ubuntu channel, they're virtualizing in a non-Mac enviro, therefore E:NotPermitted
[18:32] <teward> but to not clutter this channel we can continue the discussion in -offtopic or elsewhere :)
[18:32] <reisio> implication? :p He said it was illegal :p
[18:33] <bubbasaures> join petty-fiefdom
[18:37] <tafa2> does anyone know how I can tar a directory but not include the whole structure?
[18:37] <tafa2> only the last 2 dir's up?
[18:38] <tafa2> tar -cvzf /root/TARTEST/backups/website.com.tar.gz -C /root/TARTEST/website.com/public_html .. <---- 2x "." only does one up
[18:38] <reisio> tafa2: ../../ ?
[18:38] <reisio> tafa2: why not just fix your -C param
[18:38] <OerHeks> tafa2, tar cf <name>.tar /path/to/mydir/*(.)
[18:40]  * reisio is happy to cd, though
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> tafa2: why are you storing files in /root ?
[18:43] <tafa2> its a local test vm
[18:43] <tafa2> writting scripts on it
[18:43] <cultavix> I'm getting "booting kernel failed invalid argument" when trying to install the latest version of Ubuntu Server 14.10 on a KVM host
[18:44] <cultavix> anyone encounter this before?
[18:44] <reisio> usually you refer to an OS as a host, not a virtualization implementation
[18:44] <reisio> it probably doesn't like one of your arguments, though ;)
[18:45] <cultavix> reisio: sorry, I mean hypervisor :)
[18:45] <cultavix> reisio: well, its actually Ovirt
[18:45] <cultavix> I'm asking them as well if they know how I can get around this
[18:46] <reisio> right, you refer to an OS as a host or guest
[18:46] <reisio> but yeah if you have paid support...
[18:47] <reborn> is this for help?
[18:47] <Jeroen1> yeah
[18:47] <EriC^^> reborn: yes
[18:47] <Jeroen1> Does anyone know how to fix a nignix 502 error?
[18:48] <bubbasaures> Jeroen1, post details and errors for help.
[18:48] <reborn> it appear i had a bit problem on the update, it cannot reach to connection to common.dist.yandex or i need to remove it?
[18:48] <EriC^^> reborn: it's a ppa?
[18:48] <reborn> Yep.
[18:49] <Jeroen1> bubbasaures: I don't know how to find the error that is giving this problem.
[18:49] <EriC^^> reborn: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[18:50] <bubbasaures> Jeroen1, Cool, it helps the channel to know you circumstance, not an area  really know is all.
[18:50] <bubbasaures> your*
[18:51] <reborn> it say may lost.
[18:51] <Jeroen1> Well bubbasaures, probably can someone help me find the error. That's where Iw as looking for probably
[18:52] <reborn> @eric^^
[18:52] <lancelot_of> hi there
[18:52] <bubbasaures> reborn, You can tab complete nicks.
[18:52] <OerHeks> Jeroen1, http://www.nginxtips.com/502-bad-gateway-using-nginx/
[18:53] <Chuck_Norris> Jeroen1: http://www.nginxtips.com/502-bad-gateway-using-nginx/
[18:53] <Chuck_Norris> doh' i didn't saw your link OerHeks -.-
[18:53] <EriC^^> reborn: may lost?
[18:53] <reborn> yeah
[18:54] <EriC^^> reborn: type in a terminal cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[18:54] <lancelot_of> any soggestion on why, upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04.1, network manager does not connect anymore to the wifi of my mobile hotspot from my mobile phone?Any other wifi network works good, only mobile does not, even it seems to me configuration is well posed, password is correct...
[18:55] <reborn> shall i copy and past this?
[18:55] <EriC^^> reborn: yes
[18:56] <reborn> too long text?
[18:56] <bubbasaures> !pastebin | reborn
[18:56] <bubbasaures> someone using '@' may not know of pastebins
[18:57] <jvwjgames> chuck you still there
[18:57] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: yes
[18:57] <jvwjgames> ok i have the make file
[18:57] <Chuck_Norris> make file?
[18:58] <jvwjgames> it says that you asked for before i pasted the other stuff
[18:58] <Chuck_Norris> are you compiling a program?
[18:58] <jvwjgames> and i found a line that is of intrest to me and maybe you
[18:59] <reborn> http://imgur.com/XLVmJ8H
[19:00] <jvwjgames> host x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu but the console gives me a warning about it configure: WARNING: The config script /usr/bin/libgcrypt-config was built for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu and thus may not match the used host x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu. You may want to use the configure option --with-libgcrypt-prefix to specify a matching config script.
[19:01] <lancelot_of> no suggestions for me?
[19:02] <jvwjgames> and the needed file is indeed in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[19:02] <jvwjgames> so should i change it to the correct host and would that work
[19:03] <EriC^^> reborn: gksu gedit $(grep common /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | cut -d: -f1)
[19:03] <EriC^^> reborn: add a "#" before deb http:
[19:03] <EriC^^> then save
[19:04] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: ok, and... you got a folder over there, where you are trying to compile a program right?
[19:04] <jvwjgames> yes
[19:05] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: what is the name of that folder and where is located?
[19:06] <jvwjgames> ,/mmo/secure
[19:06] <jvwjgames> the source code is in the secure folder
[19:06] <reborn> so it say no such files or directory
[19:07] <dreampwnzor> hi. i have GTX 660 and for some reason in most of the games i have surprisingly bad performance even on the lowest settings possible (e.g. Counter Strike: Global Offensive and other steam games). I have 'nvidia' drivers from official repos and my 'powermizer' settings are 'maximum perfomance'... Maybe anyone has a clue why is it happening? Btw, i'm using ArchLinux, but i think i could get some help here on ubuntu channel :)
[19:07] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: ok so: grep -r "x86_64.unknown-linux-gnu" /mmo/secure/
[19:08] <timbo_> I need to reinstall Ubuntu and tell it which partition was ROOT. I have ubuntu-vg-root that is 955220MB ext4 and dev/sda2 ext2 255MB. Which one should be installed as root?
[19:08] <bubbasaures> dreampwnzor, Not possible is all ask in arch's hannel or ##linux.
[19:08] <EriC^^> reborn: grep common /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | cut -d: -f1
[19:08] <bazhang> dreampwnzor, #archlinux for that
[19:08] <EriC^^> reborn: what does that return?
[19:08] <freijon> dreampwnzor: do you set any kernel parameters?
[19:08] <dreampwnzor> bazhang: i know, i tried to do that a while ago, not successful unfortunately
[19:08] <dreampwnzor> freijon: umm. i don't think so
[19:09] <freijon> I had the exact same issue with radeon, also on Arch, caused by a power saving setting in the kernel parameters
[19:09] <bazhang> freijon, feel free to go to #archlinux with dreampwnzor
[19:09] <jvwjgames> lots of stuff
[19:09] <bazhang> that or PM
[19:09] <jvwjgames> pastbin
[19:10] <freijon> bazhang: IMO this issue is not distro related
[19:10] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: pastebin yes
[19:10] <bazhang> freijon, he's on arch, please respect the channel policies
[19:11] <timbo_> If someone has a thought can you post it to private chat so I can find it I have to step away for awhile. Thanks
[19:11] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: even tho, i'm not sharp with filters, idk if i gave you the right command but... let see xD
[19:12] <reborn> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yandex-browser-beta.list
[19:12] <reborn>
[19:12] <jvwjgames> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8924767/
[19:12] <alevosia> Does anyone know if an internal second SATA HDD can be hot plugged?
[19:12] <EriC^^> reborn: ok, gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yandex-browser-beta.list
[19:14] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: give a second i'm not sharp but ill give a command
[19:14] <jvwjgames> ok
[19:14] <EriC^^> reborn: add a "#" before deb http:
[19:14] <EriC^^> then save
[19:15] <Airbander> Hi guys i have xubuntu and i just installed xfce4 from terminal how can i run the window manager of it
[19:15] <EriC^^> Airbander: the window manager of it?
[19:15] <Airbander> of xfce4
[19:15] <reborn> Done, then what's next?
[19:15] <bubbasaures> Airbander, Choose it from the login dropdown
[19:16] <Airbander> i cant find it bubbasaures
[19:16] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: do you have a .tar.gz over there as a backup right?
[19:16] <EriC^^> Airbander: the window manager is compiz etc.
[19:16] <bubbasaures> Airbander, Top left of window? Can you find the dropdown?
[19:16] <jvwjgames> tar.gz of what
[19:16] <EriC^^> reborn: sudo apt-get update
[19:17] <EriC^^> Airbander: i think there's xfwm though
[19:17] <Airbander> it ok guys i find it
[19:17] <Airbander> thanks
[19:17] <bubbasaures> Airbander, I'm just telling you the xfce4 de start in general
[19:17] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: of the program or whatever it is you are trying to compile
[19:17] <jvwjgames> yes
[19:17] <Airbander> yep thanks
[19:17] <reborn> it now done fixed! thanks!
[19:18] <reisio> gj
[19:18] <EriC^^> reborn: no problem
[19:19] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: sed -i 's/unknown/pc/g' /mmo/secure/client/Makefile
[19:19] <jvwjgames> what does this do
[19:20] <Chuck_Norris> mmm... replace unknown by pc -.-
[19:20] <jvwjgames> ok i did it
[19:20] <Chuck_Norris> now compile
[19:22] <jvwjgames> did you say replace unkown by pc
[19:22] <jvwjgames> what do you mean
[19:22] <Chuck_Norris> words inside Makefile file
[19:25] <jerware> How long does it take for a dist upgrade to run?
[19:25] <jerware> can it complete within an hour?
[19:26] <EriC^^> jerware: depends on how much it has to download and your connection speed
[19:27] <xwalk> jerware: My last one took me about 90 minutes.
[19:27] <freijon> is it normal that while upgrading to a new distro version, that the screen turns black in the process?
[19:28] <xwalk> jerware: That's with a 30 Mb connection.
[19:29] <EriC^^> xwalk: that's nuts
[19:29] <EriC^^> you'd have to download around 5gb
[19:30] <xwalk> EriC^^: It felt like an hour and a half process.  It was done over WiFI as well.
[19:33] <pene> asd
[19:33] <pene> asd
[19:33] <pene> asd
[19:34] <jvwjgames> ok
[19:34] <jvwjgames> same error :(
[19:35] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: if it didn't work, then delete that folder, untar your backup .tar.gz, then run ./configure --help  it may gives you hints about how to compile it for linux
[19:36] <jvwjgames> i have a idea
[19:36] <jvwjgames> i did that command and there is one i can try
[19:36] <jvwjgames> --host=HOST
[19:38] <Slagwag> i just don't get it
[19:38] <Chuck_Norris> jvwjgames: you could try that but, it shoud be something like "linux"
[19:40] <Slagwag> im having a bit of a problem with another distro of linux but it works perfect in Ubuntu so trying to find out what the difference is. I'm also a bit surprised. I have to use a proxy for updates so I install ubuntu CLI only and reference my credentials on the proxy update tool --  http://"first.last@domain.com:Password":proxyserver.com:80  - and it works flawless in Ubuntu. is the way ubuntu
[19:40] <Slagwag> interprets characters different than CentOS?
[19:52] <camilo> Boa noite, sou novato por aqui
[19:53] <onla> question about firefox on ubuntu gnome and nautilus. How can I remove the top most bar in firefox so that if I move my mouse to the topmost position on the screen and click a button, it will swap to a tab that it is in that position like in chrome instead of that topbar that appears there in firefox
[19:58] <jvwjgames> no joy
[19:58] <camilo> Alguem me consegue dizer como instalo o My booklive? Disco externo que se liga por WiFi. Executo o setup.exe pelo Wine, mas ele diz que tenho de entrar como Adminstrador. Desde já os meus Agradecimentos
[20:00] <Tadas> Is there a way to enable manual login vithout having admin rights (in guest session) ?
[20:00] <jerware> I ran a dist upgrade and I'm still running trusty.  Isn't it utopic?
[20:00] <jerware> The newest is utopic.
[20:03] <Junka> is vlc 2.2.0 going to be backported in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[20:05] <ZGN> Hey can someone help me out?
[20:05] <bubbasaures> jerware, Was it dist-upgrade you ran?
[20:05] <ZGN> I have a troubling issue, could someone help me out?
[20:06] <Airbander> for what if i know i can
[20:06] <Airbander> just ask
[20:06] <bubbasaures> ZGN, Describe it to the channel for help.
[20:06] <squinty> !ask > ZGN
[20:07] <jerware> bubbasaures: yes
[20:07] <jerware> apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:08] <bubbasaures> jerware, That is a in release upgrade not from one to the next release
[20:08] <squinty> jerware: if you used apt-get dist-upgrade that will not upgrade to newer ubuntu version.  in Software Updater > Notify me of a new ubuntu version >  <choose>    Software updater will handle it from there
[20:08] <ZGN> I bought a Gaming Computer in the Local Listings, it was Dual Booted with Win7 and Ubuntu and the previous owner Cleared the Win7 but didnt clear the ubuntu, I loved ubuntu but there is a password on the account, as well it is installed on the same ntfs partition as win7 and im am unclear as to uninstalling.
[20:09] <bubbasaures> jerware, go to software & updates and set it as al releases than run the update gui.
[20:09] <ZGN> What do I do? D:
[20:09] <reisio> ZGN: you just want the existing win7 install?
[20:09] <ZGN> No, I want Ubuntu..
[20:09] <ZGN> But I want to keep Win 7
[20:09] <reisio> ZGN: isn't that the situation you already have?
[20:10] <ZGN> Yes, but I dont know the password for the account.
[20:10] <ZGN> I no longer have access to the previous owners number.
[20:10] <reisio> ZGN: you can reset it from a live OS
[20:10] <ZGN> Live OS?
[20:10] <bubbasaures> ZGN, I would never run someones else's set up personally. You could still have all thats there but know whats there
[20:10] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[20:11] <reisio> or http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[20:11] <ZGN> thank you.
[20:11] <ZGN> :)
[20:12] <adac> Guys I have an issue with my ubuntu 12.04, nvidia card and the default nouveau driver. At some point my pc simply crashes. I coud extract the following from the syslog: Nov 10 21:05:05 adac-ThinkPad-T410 kernel: [  564.049268] nouveau E[   PFIFO][0000:01:00.0] DMA_PUSHER - ch 3 [Xorg[1445]] get 0x00200244ec put 0x002002452c ib_get 0x000003ef ib_put 0x0000005a state 0x80000234 (err: INVALID_CMD) push 0x00400040
[20:13] <adac> sorry ubuntu 14.04
[20:16] <squinty> camilo:  /join #ubuntu-pt   este é o Inglês só canal. por favor, pergunte no ubuntu-pt
[20:17] <Skyrider> It really sucks choosing between debian / ubuntu :(
[20:20] <x_O> Skyrider: why man
[20:20] <metalliqaz> hey i've got a fresh install of Ubuntu Server LTS right here and it can't seem to find the swap partition that the installer prepared
[20:20] <metalliqaz> it shows up in fdisk as /dev/sda5, but blkid doesn't show it
[20:21] <metalliqaz> the installer added a line for it in fstab, but it just throws an error at bootup
[20:21] <metalliqaz> not sure where to go from ehre
[20:22] <metalliqaz> http://pastebin.com/SUTQcx6Z
[20:22] <metalliqaz> anyone know?
[20:26] <timbo_> I need to reinstall Ubuntu and tell it which partition was ROOT. I have ubuntu-vg-root that is 955220MB ext4 and dev/sda2 ext2 255MB. Which one should be installed as root?
[20:27] <alevosia> hi
[20:27] <alevosia> Any recomendable tool to create a bootable usb from ubuntu using a non-linux .iso?
[20:28] <engine> hello
[20:28] <alevosia> seems like unetbootin is only for linux distros
[20:29] <engine> no
[20:29] <engine> there is win too
[20:29] <alevosia> but I wan tu run it in ubuntu
[20:30] <timbo_> anyone have any thoughts on the reinstall?
[20:31] <Guest38424> hello, I have lubuntu installed like this, http://imgur.com/PEAT9hT is it possible to install a new distro on this and keep what is on my /home
[20:33] <Ben64> Guest38424: what new distro
[20:34] <fast> star400
[20:34] <BlueProtoman> Anyone here familiar with Nyquist?
[20:34] <Guest38424> ubuntu mate Ben64
[20:35] <Ben64> Guest38424: you can just "sudo apt-get install mate-desktop"
[20:35] <zteam> Hi guys!
[20:35] <squinty> alevosia:  to use unetbootin with an unlisted iso, use the lower half of the unetbootin screen where it says Diskimage
[20:36] <zteam> (and gals of course)
[20:37] <Guest38424> yeah I could Ben64 but I actually am doing this mostly because I just put this harddrive in a new computer and am getting errors at boot and audio driver problems. I think I found an external harddrive though, thanks
[20:38] <geoffmcc> Guest38424: it could be done, but it appears your home is not on its own partition.
[20:40] <engine> hi, guys
[20:40] <dgs> i've got a UAT server running 10.04 LTS with an odd issue I haven't come across before. After logging into the console (successfully), my bash prompt is continually over written by further login prompts (as though I hadn't logged in)
[20:42] <dgs> i can just type in garbage and hit enter to get past them, but they keep corrupting the stdout info on the screen that I'm trying to use. Can't find anything on google related to this (loads of hits about *no* login prompt, but nothing about repeated login prompts
[20:42] <dgs> if i ssh in - i have no issues - it's only when logging in direct from console
[20:42] <zteam> I just in process of downloading a very huge Torrent (around 24 GB) with Transmission and now I get this error message: "Error please verify local data part #2557 is corrupt, so I right click on the torrent, and select "verify local data", but TM doesn't show me any indicating that it actually verifys data (eg no progressbar etc)
[20:43] <Skyrider> x_O: Because I'm on Debian atm.
[20:43] <Skyrider> Considering to go Ubuntu
[20:43] <zteam> So is there anything I can actually do, instead of just redownload everything?
[20:44] <engine> sdfsdfsdf
[20:44] <pitu> ??
[20:45] <lordinvader> can anyone help me with getting VLC 2.2 for Ubuntu 14.04? Till today it was on videolan/master-daily but now they've updated it to 3.0
[20:45] <bubbasaures> lordinvader, WE would have to search like you would.
[20:45] <daftykins> lordinvader: that PPA may still have the older version, i can't quite remember the notation for version specific installs but i think it was package:version
[20:46] <engine> hi, can anybody help me?
[20:46] <daftykins> engine: not until you ask something
[20:46] <engine> thank you, my irc client works)
[20:46] <lordinvader> daftykins: it's not there any more - at least I can't see that version if I run 'apt-cache policy vlc'
[20:47] <OerHeks> lordinvader, current vlc in trusty is 2.1.4, so remove that ppa with ppa-purge and you will have 2.1.4
[20:47] <lordinvader> OerHeks: I need at least 2.2 - but I can't run 3.0 because of libavcodec55 dependency issues
[20:48] <edgy> Hi, I want to try ubuntu cloud image so I downloaded https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/trusty-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img how can I increase the size of the disk?
[20:48] <edgy> I can't find any documentation for this
[20:50] <Xe> where can I get Ubuntu drivers for a AMD FirePro D500>
[20:50] <Xe> ?*
[20:53] <wormy14> I am trying to set up a B800i Drobo on Ubuntu 14.04. It uses ISCSI and is supposed to allow DHCP to create a connection. I can't get iscsiadm to discover the Drobo. I suspect the DHCP is not set up correctly because Avahi is active in IFCONFIG
[20:53] <gr33n7007h> any one know how to disable subtitles in mplayer using keyboard?
[20:54] <k1l> gr33n7007h: are you sure they are not "hardcoded" into the video?
[20:55] <gr33n7007h> k11, no, not hardcoded
[20:55] <k1l> gr33n7007h: "v" should do it
[20:55] <gr33n7007h> k1l, awesome, thanks dude!
[20:55] <gr33n7007h> i'll remember that now
[20:56] <ozzloy> i just ran sudo sixpair, step 2 here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis and my bluetooth stopped working.  now i have rebooted and it still doesn't work.  i've searched a bit and not found anything promising.  now i get this when i run sudo sixpair http://paste.ubuntu.com/8926474/ how do i troubleshoot this now?
[21:02] <daftykins> ozzloy: "rfkill list all" ?
[21:02] <ozzloy> oh, i just found sixad -r
[21:02] <ozzloy> aka, restore bluetooth
[21:02] <ozzloy> apparently sixad takes over bluetooth
[21:03] <bobbobbins> hello, I have someone asking me what my servers internal ip address range is(he says it should look something like <IP_ADDRESS>/24), and I’m not sure how to find that, can someone help me out?
[21:03] <genii> bobbobbins: The server is running Ubuntu?
[21:03] <daftykins> bobbobbins: install 'pastebinit' then run "ifconfig | pastebinit"
[21:04] <bobbobbins> genii: yeah, its running ubuntu
[21:04] <bobbobbins> daftykins: ok, let me try that
[21:04] <jimmy51v_> !info pastebinit
[21:04] <jimmy51v_> wow.  where has that been all of my linux life
[21:05] <daftykins> it is a gem indeed :)
[21:05] <bobbobbins> yeah, I was missing out on that too
[21:05] <daftykins> i look forward to the day it's installed as default so i don't have to preface every task with installation commands
[21:06] <Multbrelch> Dear all. Q: In a python script, I would like to determine the path and file name of a document, that is open in LibreOffice Writer. I have seen that you can use 'import uno' and its tools but some code I have found simply does not work. What is the best solution? Thx for any contributions ... .
[21:06] <OEP> What is the configuration file for KDE on Ubuntu to set i.e. a locked down desktop background?
[21:07] <bobbobbins> dang it, I just realized this server is using centos, not ubuntu…i didn’t switch it over, sorry…wrong channel
[21:07] <reisio> locked down?
[21:07] <Jeroen1> does anyone know how to clear the niginx error log? Tried echo 'n "" > file.log but didn't work.
[21:07] <OEP> reisio: the user is not able to change it. There is a guide on disabling certain features in KDE I am following but I can't figure out where it wants me to put my config files.
[21:08]  * squinty votes for default pastebinit and inxi  :P
[21:08] <reisio> mmm
[21:08] <reisio> would ask #kde
[21:09] <OEP> reisio: will do :)
[21:10] <daftykins> bobbobbins: paste it anyway, it's just reading a number :P
[21:11] <bobbobbins> daftykins: ok i will, i just have to figure out how to install pastebinit
[21:11] <daftykins> bobbobbins: just run 'ifconfig' then paste the active interface (eth0 likely) into paste.ubuntu.com
[21:12] <guntbert> daftykins: btw try to get used to using    ip addr show    instead of   ifconfig   for such a problem - ifconfig is deprecated
[21:13] <bobbobbins> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8926808/
[21:13] <daftykins> bobbobbins: mmm you've got two interfaces there then
[21:14] <bobbobbins> i think all rackspace servers are set up that way
[21:15] <jpic> hi all ! is it normal that http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404's ??
[21:16] <daftykins> bobbobbins: i'll guess eth1 and hrmm, gotta work out this subnet ugh
[21:16] <jpic> sounds like archive.ubuntu.com has a big problem
[21:16] <jimmy51v_> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/binary-amd64/  <-  works
[21:17] <jimmy51v_> looks like no uncompressed Pacakges file there
[21:17] <jpic> yep, by my apt-get wants Packages, not those ;)
[21:17] <jpic> it was working 2 minutes ago
[21:17] <jimmy51v_> are you using squid by chance?
[21:17] <bobbobbins> daftykins: sorry, I didn’t realize it would be tricky
[21:17] <Pinkamena_D> SO I have been using ubuntu for a while and I never saw this happen. Just doing usual activities, the RAM use dropped from its usual 95% to about 50% and swap started going crazy and making chrome very slow. I have not messed with swapiness value.
[21:17] <jpic> jimmy51v_: not sure, our security guys keep messing with us
[21:17] <Pinkamena_D> anyone know why?
[21:18] <jpic> jimmy51v_: how to fix apt-get update ?
[21:18] <bubbasaures> Pinkamena_D, You gotta see whats running top or htop if installed.
[21:18] <daftykins> bobbobbins: no worries, good challenge for my brain. looks like <IP_ADDRESS>/19
[21:19] <jimmy51v_> jpic: if you run `sudo apt-get update` you're getting a 404 on that repo?
[21:19] <daftykins> bobbobbins: pass them this for more info - http://jodies.de/ipcalc?host=<IP_ADDRESS>&mask1=19&mask2=
[21:19] <jpic> jimmy51v_: yep: http://dpaste.com/183C6J7
[21:19] <guntbert> daftykins: just for a check: paste (here) the output of   ip route | default
[21:20] <bobbobbins> daftykins: awesome, thank you!
[21:20] <daftykins> guntbert: not my system. i am not the question asker.
[21:20] <bubbasaures> Pinkamena_D, Swapping on  a spinning HD makes things rather slow to a crawl, on a ssd it is not noticeable in some swapping.
[21:20] <Pinkamena_D> chrome, compiz, and xorg are the top processes, nothing unisual there. What happened was that the ram use started filling back up to the top again, but then once more it just crashed down to 50%. Chrome must be taking near the threshold for swap but I dont understand why it would move so much at once.
[21:20] <guntbert> daftykins: sorry, I **know**, fat fingers :-)
[21:21] <Pinkamena_D> weird, but at least the system stays stable. =D
[21:21] <jimmy51v_> jpic: looks like they might actually be gone
[21:22] <jpic> jimmy51v_: i thought i was on 12.04 LTS supported until 2017 ?
[21:22] <jimmy51v_> jpic: although that's LTS so it should be good
[21:22] <jimmy51v_> yeah
[21:23] <jimmy51v_> jipc: what if you add "dists" in the path i your sources.list file
[21:23] <jimmy51v_> like this...
[21:25] <jimmy51v_> jpic: http://dpaste.com/0AV77AS
[21:25] <Pinkamena_D> do you think, if I kept my large hard drive but I bought a small, 15$ mini pci-E SSD to use for swap only that it would help?
[21:25] <jpic> jimmy51v_: well W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dists/precise-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[21:26] <jimmy51v_> ah.. it must append the dists automatically
[21:26] <jpic> precise has not made it into old-releases yet: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[21:27] <jimmy51v_> jpic: if you try to open those IP's in your web browser does it work?  ex:    http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:28] <jpic> jimmy51v_: yes, i can see the Packages.bz2 in the repo in question for example
[21:28] <ZerOlegend> odd
[21:28] <jpic> curl'ing http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 from the server works for example
[21:29] <OerHeks> I think it is bacause 10.04 server is still supported, and desktop is EOL
[21:29] <OerHeks> *because
[21:30] <jimmy51v_> OerHeks: I was heading to configuring compression type for apt-get to prefer gz.
[21:30] <jimmy51v_> OerHeks: is that a waste of time?
[21:31] <jimmy51v_> jpic: are you desktop or server?
[21:31] <jpic> jimmy51v_: server
[21:31] <jimmy51v_> jpic:  well, anyway, i was going to suggest configuring apt-get to prefer the gzip'd Packages file.  like this:
[21:31] <jimmy51v_> `apt-get -o Acquire::CompressionTypes::Order::=gz update`
[21:32] <jpic> awesome, thanks jimmy51v_ you rock !
[21:32] <jimmy51v_> jpic: did that work?
[21:32] <jpic> yes !!
[21:32] <jpic> some other error appeared though xD
[21:32] <jimmy51v_> heh
[21:33] <jpic> only one: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repo.percona.com/apt/ precise/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/repo.percona.com_apt_dists_precise_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[21:33] <jpic> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[21:33] <jpic> not so much related to ubuntu though ... but still i wonder, i did run apt-get update again without success
[21:33] <jimmy51v_> eh.... paste your sources.list and look for the duplicate entry
[21:33] <jimmy51v_> man, this might be the first time i've successfully helped someone with something non-simple
[21:34]  * jimmy51v_ accepts 2 scoobie snacks
[21:34] <ZerOlegend> hehe
[21:34]  * jpic hands over a cookie to jimmy51v_
[21:34] <OerHeks> !cookie | jimmy51v_
[21:34]  * jimmy51v_ enjoys the oatmeal raisin
[21:35] <jpic> apparently i have two indeed in sources.list.d: percona.list and repo_percona_com_apt.list ... not sure why
[21:36] <jpic> i'll just remove one and run ansible again see if it duplicates it in that case remove the other one, thanks again jimmy51v_
[21:36] <jpic> i'll have to make that setting persistent too in apt.conf
[21:36] <jimmy51v_> jpic: no prob.  good luck
[21:38] <nullpointer0x00> Hello, I was wondering if I could get some help on an ssh issue
[21:39] <webdevb> Hey guys
[21:39] <webdevb> I want to update just opensll on my 12.04 system... is this the best thing to follow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/429385/upgrade-openssl-on-ubuntu-12-04
[21:41] <webdevb> Anyone?
[21:41] <jimmy51v_> patience :)
[21:41] <webdevb> haha sorry jimmy51v_
[21:41] <jimmy51v_> webdevb: what version are you trying to run?
[21:42] <OerHeks> webdevb, just upgrade, and you'll be fine. 12.04 should be patched
[21:42] <jimmy51v_> !info openssl
[21:42] <webdevb> I'm trying to patch this jimmy51v_ CVE-2014-0224
[21:43] <nullpointer0x00> When I try and run a command remotely from ssh it works fun, but it creates two process
[21:43] <OerHeks> !heartbleed
[21:43] <bubbasaures> webdevb, If this is a heartbleed issue it was fixed here within  a day of it's anouncement.
[21:43] <nullpointer0x00> for example" ssh somehost 'sudo java -jar some.jar'
[21:43] <bubbasaures> here is the ubuntu repos
[21:43] <webdevb> no this isnt the heartbleed it's the pulse one.
[21:44] <nullpointer0x00> creates a 'sudo java -jar some.jar' process and a 'java -jar some.jar' process both as root user
[21:44] <diegoaguilar> Hello, whats best way to update my ubuntu install to last stable linux kernel?
[21:44] <byork9> sudo apt-get install dist-update
[21:44] <bubbasaures> diegoaguilar, That is basically not supported here, at least the kernel
[21:45] <bubbasaures> latest ubuntu tweaked is
[21:45] <diegoaguilar> becase it relates to linux in particular?
[21:45] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> jimmy51v_: How does one check the openssl version?
[21:45] <byork9> whats ubuntu tweaked?
[21:45] <jimmy51v_> j4s0nmchr1st0s: apt-cache policy openssl
[21:45] <bubbasaures> diegoaguilar, technically this channel is ubuntu release only.
[21:46] <nullpointer0x00> opensshl version
[21:46] <nullpointer0x00> openssl version
[21:46] <bubbasaures> byork9, Ubuntu like most linux distros tweak the kernels for their OS.
[21:46] <webdevb> OerHeks but how do I just update openssl...
[21:47] <byork9> oh i thought you meant something else... a different distro than ubuntu
[21:47] <jimmy51v_> nullpointer0x00: i think you mean `openssl --version`
[21:48] <jimmy51v_> webdevb: assuming your ubuntu version is still supported...   `sudo apt-get install openssl`
[21:48] <nullpointer0x00> openssl:Error: '--version' is an invalid command.
[21:48] <byork9> so whats the first thing i should be doing after installing ubuntu ... ive already installed flash the codecs and all that stuff...
[21:48] <OerHeks> webdevb, it is patched AFAIK http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-0224.html
[21:49] <jimmy51v_> webdevb: oops...   `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssl`
[21:49] <bubbasaures> byork9, Whatever you want, would you ask that of a windows or apple user?
[21:49] <kostkon> webdevb, if you are up-to-date, you are fine
[21:49] <byork9> ok let me narrow my question down... security wise... there isnt any avast here so.... what do you do for security.. viruses hacking etc
[21:50] <bubbasaures> !av | byork9
[21:50] <timbo_> I need to reinstall Ubuntu and tell it which partition was ROOT. I have ubuntu-vg-root that is 955220MB ext4 and dev/sda2 ext2 255MB. Which one should be installed as root?
[21:50] <byork9> lol!! ok... i knew it was less prevalent just didnt know that there wa\snt
[21:50] <bubbasaures> byork9, Linux like any other is a user interface to the danger, safe practices is all you need and good passwords
[21:51] <byork9> good to go... i know the danger of the command line... i accidently purged the desktop today accidently
[21:52] <byork9> with 'sudo apt-get purge gnome*'
[21:52] <byork9> oops
[21:52] <bubbasaures> byork9, Ah, the fun of first use, I wiped all kinds of stuff in the first 6 months. ;)
[21:53] <byork9> so out of curiousity... why cant i keep my system as root? my android is root all the time... and i know they are brother and sister not the same... maybe im asking a stupid question
[21:53] <k1l> !root | byork9
[21:53] <bubbasaures> byork9, Android is not root unless you root it.
[21:54] <bubbasaures> or buy it rooted
[21:54] <byork9> lol... and thats what android is for.... ROOT
[21:54] <bubbasaures> byork9, Not really, root is exposure.
[21:54] <daftykins> byork9: ubuntu is wise and protects us from ourselves.
[21:54] <k1l> byork9: basically one of the security ideas is not to run with the loaded gun all the time, but use the root rights when you need it. so use sudo for and when you need it.
[21:55] <k1l> byork9: you are wrong. you dont run everything as root just because your device is "rooted"
[21:55] <bubbasaures> google play is a known issue with bad code
[21:55] <byork9> lol... i wasnt literal kll....
[21:56] <k1l> byork9: and even windows got to the idea not to be the full power user all the time but to ask when the permissions are needed
[21:57] <byork9> ok... thankyou for the information... have a good day
[22:00] <thekkid> Does anyone use Ubuntu with a Microsoft Surface or one of the new ultrabook 2 in 1s?
[22:02] <bubbasaures> thekkid, You thinking of buying?
[22:03] <k1l> thekkid: last days someone was here with a surface pro 2. that seems to work. you need to load the wifi driver form some external ressource but there are enough guides on the net
[22:03] <bubbasaures> thekkid, I believe the surface has models that work. http://www.geek.com/microsoft/linux-users-rejoice-heres-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-3-1594864/
[22:04] <thekkid> bubbasaures: My old laptop is giving out and I want a new one. I was coincidentally in a best buy the other day and all the laptops were 2-in-ones
[22:05] <l0rdn1x> Houston we have a problem.
[22:05] <bubbasaures> thekkid, I think you could get the same basic hardware cheaper and easier to just plug and play without the MS name is all.
[22:06] <thekkid> bubbasaures: Maybe, the screen on it was pretty good looking. Do you know of any other super lightweight tablet/laptop deal?
[22:06] <thekkid> on x86
[22:06] <bubbasaures> thekkid, Not really, here we are mainly direct support of installing or installed ubuntu.
[22:07] <thekkid> bubbasaures: Yeah. Thanks though!
[22:08] <bubbasaures> thekkid, No problem, we do want to help if we can. ;)
[22:09] <l0rdn1x> Using 14.04.1LTS my brightness always resets to MAX on reboot, I've adjusted the rc.local as suggested on the main site, any other ideas?
[22:10] <k1l> l0rdn1x: see the bios settings
[22:11] <mekhami> odd question, but has anyone ever gotten wsop.com poker client to work with Wine? hah
[22:11]  * l0rdn1x will brb
[22:11] <thekkid> bubbasaures: Yeah, I think I could get it working I just don't know what I want.
[22:12] <k1l> mehdi: see wine app database  or the wine specialists in the wine channel
[22:12] <mekhami> what wine channel
[22:12] <k1l> thekkid: to get to know what you want is not really a ubuntu support issue :) try ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:12] <daftykins> #winehq
[22:12] <k1l> !wine | mekhami
[22:13] <thekkid> k1l: Thanks!
[22:14] <l0rdn1x> k1l, no option in this bios for anything about dispaly ;(
[22:14] <EriC^^> l0rdn1x: what do you want to brightness set to?
[22:15] <l0rdn1x> EriC^^, echo 6 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[22:15] <EriC^^> ok
[22:16] <l0rdn1x> i got that in the rc.local somewhere else I can try it?
[22:16] <EriC^^> echo 6 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[22:16] <delinquentme> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_IP_address  ... trying to grok this ... "A virtual IP address (VIP or VIPA) is an IP address assigned to multiple applications residing on a single server, multiple domain names, or multiple servers, rather than being assigned to a specific single server or network interface card (NIC)."
[22:16] <EriC^^> l0rdn1x: try it in ~/.profile it should work
[22:16] <delinquentme> so would a use case be binding a VIPA to a single application instead of specifying the port that that application is listening to??
[22:17] <l0rdn1x> EriC^^, k one sec
[22:17] <EriC^^> l0rdn1x: you'll need to add tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness to the sudoers file though with NOPASSWD
[22:17] <mrkirby153> Okay. So I have an issue using dovecot and postfix. I can recieve email but not send it
[22:18] <l0rdn1x> EriC^^, k
[22:18] <EriC^^> try in the terminal sudo -k
[22:18] <EriC^^> then echo 6 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[22:18] <EriC^^> see if it changes
[22:19] <EriC^^> without asking for a password
[22:20] <l0rdn1x> EriC^^, it just made the screen go black lol
[22:20] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:20] <EriC^^> i was kind of surprised about the echo 6
[22:20] <EriC^^> try
[22:21] <EriC^^> cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness/max_brightness
[22:21] <EriC^^> see what it returns
[22:22] <l0rdn1x> for max_brightness I get a return of 2, and for just brightness I get a return of (1)  which is 2488
[22:22] <l0rdn1x> So the first command errors out.
[22:22] <EriC^^> sorry yeah its
[22:22] <EriC^^> cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness
[22:23] <l0rdn1x> 4882
[22:23] <EriC^^> ok
[22:23] <l0rdn1x> So 2488 is what I should set it to then?
[22:23] <EriC^^> play with your brightness
[22:23] <l0rdn1x> k
[22:23] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:23] <EriC^^> play around and get the value
[22:23] <l0rdn1x> sweet thanks man it was driving me nuts lol
[22:24] <EriC^^> no problem
[22:24] <l0rdn1x> My eyeballs would start burning and I'd be like oh yeah need to turn down the brightness lmao
[22:24] <EriC^^> haha
[22:29] <ZGN> I bought a gaming computer that was dualbooted with win7 and ubuntu on the same 1tb ntfs partition, how do i remove ubuntu? i wish to run a clean install on a seperate partition but wish to keep win7
[22:29] <Ary_Mainart> hi guys
[22:29] <Ary_Mainart> i have a problem
[22:29] <ZGN> can anyone help me
[22:29] <Ary_Mainart> i messed up samba
[22:30] <k1l> ZGN: is it a wubi install? so ubuntu is installed inside the windows partition?
[22:30] <ZGN> yes
[22:30] <Ary_Mainart> how did i complete remove samba including /etc/samba files and eny other directory??????
[22:30] <eAir59> Hello
[22:30] <grimsdottir_> weeee virtual machine chatting!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[22:31] <k1l> ZGN: wait there is some uninstall guide somewhere in the official docs
[22:31] <ZGN> where?
[22:31] <ZGN> can yuo refer me?
[22:31] <ZGN> you*
[22:31] <k1l> ZGN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[22:31] <OerHeks> Ary_Mainart, sudo apt-get remove --purge samba
[22:32] <Ary_Mainart> this command doesent remove /etc/samba directories
[22:32] <OerHeks> Ary_Mainart, stop samba first, then purge, logout and login again
[22:32] <OerHeks> * as with any service
[22:33] <bubbasaures> ZGN, Ubuntu should be dualbooted wubi is not supported, the ubuntu you have can be removed in add/remove in windows admin.
[22:33] <Novice201y> Hello. I want to install a package that needs additional packages to work. How can I log changes to be able to remove this packages with all additional istalled during this installation?
[22:34] <genii> Novice201y: Might want to look into apt-listchanges
[22:34] <bubbasaures> ZGN, That wiki is excellent.
[22:35] <Vladimir_> is there something equalent to Citrix on linux?
[22:35] <Novice201y> genii: But I want to install a package by apt-get.
[22:38] <k1l> Novice201y: if you remove that package the other ones should be marked as not-nneded too and will be removed.
[22:38] <geoffmcc> OerHeks: isnt it actually apt-get --purge remove
[22:39] <OerHeks> geoffmcc, i think that works the same way?
[22:40] <geoffmcc> OerHeks: maybe, some things have multiple ways to do
[22:40] <macscam1> any way to open a file with sudo without using a terminal? i broke my terminal trying to change the default terminal
[22:41] <NoOova_> Hello! I have a problems with core i5 cpu
[22:41] <EriC^^> Novice201y: in any case the apt log is /var/log/apt/history.log ( if you ever need to keep track of anything )
[22:41] <Novice201y> geoffmcc: Thank You
[22:41] <ZerOlegend> hit control alt + f2 macscam1
[22:41] <EriC^^> Novice201y: use zcat for the log.gz files
[22:41] <NoOova_> it resets speed to 800Mhz every second..
[22:41] <NoOova_> scaling governor is performance
[22:41] <ZerOlegend> then alt + f8 should take you back
[22:42] <k1l> ZerOlegend: no. you are mixing stuff
[22:42] <k1l> macscam1: what did you do?
[22:42] <ZerOlegend> just saying that will get into console
[22:42] <EriC^^> macscam1: you still have xterm btw
[22:43] <k1l> ZerOlegend: no. alt+f2 is not tty. ctrl+alt+f1 is a tty. and then ctrl+alt+f7 will get back to gui
[22:44] <ZerOlegend> any of them are a tty 1 - 7
[22:44] <ZerOlegend> at least it does it for me
[22:44] <ZerOlegend> 1 - 6 i mean
[22:44] <k1l> ZerOlegend: yes. but you dont get there with alt+f2
[22:44] <ZerOlegend> 7 is back to x
[22:44] <ZerOlegend> i said control + alt + f2
[22:44] <marchelzo_> hi. How can I get version 4.9.* of gcc in ubuntu 13.10?
[22:45] <ZerOlegend> i missed the first + the first time i wrote it
[22:45] <k1l> ZerOlegend: oh sorry. misread that control.
[22:45] <ZerOlegend> i tested it before I wrote it to be 100% sure to not give bad information
[22:45] <EriC^^> !info gcc saucy
[22:45] <OerHeks> marchelzo_, not, as 13.10 is EOL, upgrade please to 14.04
[22:45] <k1l> marchelzo_: 13.10 is out of support update first to 14.04 then take a look about the gcc
[22:45] <marchelzo_> OerHeks, I'm not terribly familiar with ubuntu. Does that mean I have to reinstall?
[22:46] <k1l> marchelzo_: no
[22:46] <ZerOlegend> you can upgrade the distro
[22:46] <k1l> !upgrade | marchelzo_
[22:46] <marchelzo_> I'm actually running Xubuntu, but I take it these docs still apply to me?
[22:46] <ZerOlegend> k1l, can you still do just a apt-get dist-upgrade?
[22:47] <EriC^^> marchelzo_: yes
[22:47] <k1l> ZerOlegend: not on ubuntu. we have updaters for that
[22:47] <k1l> ZerOlegend: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:47] <ZerOlegend> oh ok been awhile since I used ubuntu just re-installed it this weekend
[22:47] <ZerOlegend> got tired of gentoo
[22:48] <ZerOlegend> I think fiesty was the last version I ran
[22:48] <ZerOlegend> so happy netflix works with chrome37 now
[22:49] <ZerOlegend> still trying to get a good way to rtmp stream audio/desktop/webcam to a live stream site. castawesome kind of works but doesnt seem to grab audio from pulse
[22:49] <tj-main> hey all, i have some questions about nfs performance, wanted to get some comparisons to see if i'm crazy. i'm topping out at ~11MB/s transfer speed between two Ubuntu 14.04 machines connected with cat6 to the same gigabit switch.
[22:51] <ZerOlegend> tj-main, could also depend on your hard drive read/write speed
[22:52] <ZerOlegend> 1gig ethernet maxes out around 125MBps
[22:53] <collinanderson> I accidentally over-wrote my /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key. How do I reset it or generate a new one?
[22:54] <tj-main> Zer0legend, the drives I am testing on are 2 SSDs in btrfs RAID 0, local write speed with the same test is ~1GB/s
[22:54] <ZerOlegend> collinanderson, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-803827.html
[22:54] <ZerOlegend> 2nd to last post
[22:56] <collinanderson> ZerOlegend: perfect. I just ran "sudo make-ssl-cert generate-default-snakeoil --force-overwrite" which at least _looks_ it would fix it. (And I assume it did. I'll know in about a day). Thanks so much for the quick reply!
[22:57] <ZerOlegend> no problem you are welcome
[22:57] <icewaterman> hi
[22:57] <ZerOlegend> helo
[22:58] <icewaterman> my ubuntu init process doesnt seem to mount /dev, which presents a whole range of problems
[22:58] <icewaterman> its 14.10 but the same happened with 14.04
[22:58] <ZerOlegend> so no devices will mount?
[22:58] <icewaterman> how come it no longer mounts it.
[22:58] <icewaterman> ZerOlegend: some work, but many devices dont
[22:58] <ZerOlegend> what is one that doesn't for example?
[22:59] <icewaterman> ZerOlegend: all sound devices
[22:59] <k1l> icewaterman: is that some special setup?
[22:59] <ZerOlegend> you do not mount a sound device
[22:59] <icewaterman> k1l: unfortunately i have to use my own compiled kernel.
[22:59] <k1l> icewaterman: what devices do you mean exactly?
[22:59] <icewaterman> ZerOlegend: no but the device is in /dev
[22:59] <ZerOlegend> are you saying you do not have working sound?
[22:59] <k1l> icewaterman: oh. so its not a ubunut issue but a custom-kernel issue?
[23:00] <icewaterman> k1l: doubt it, because i explicitly enabled devtmpfs and used the kernel option to mount it on boot
[23:00] <ZerOlegend> did you compile support into the kernel for devices that are not working?
[23:00] <k1l> icewaterman: so does it work with an original ubuntu kernel?
[23:01] <icewaterman> k1l: unfortunately i cannot test that
[23:01] <k1l> icewaterman: what devices are we talking about? what machine do you use to need a own kernel?
[23:01] <icewaterman> k1l: because of some weired full disk encryption setup i used years ago i cannot use the ubuntu kernel
[23:01] <k1l> atm it sounds like: i build a own kernel that doesnt work.
[23:02] <icewaterman> i would like to but it would cost me weeks to get a complete setup working again and i do not have the time.
[23:02] <ZerOlegend> yeah that is what i am getting too k1l
[23:02] <icewaterman> this is why i have been stuck with my custom kernel for years
[23:02] <ZerOlegend> sounds like you just missed some kernel modules
[23:02] <icewaterman> ZerOlegend: all kernel modules are there
[23:02] <ZerOlegend> how are they set to load?
[23:03] <icewaterman> ZerOlegend: lets make the problem more simple:
[23:03] <ZerOlegend> that would be fantastic
[23:03] <icewaterman> uvcvideo and videodev are loaded, but no /dev/video0
[23:03] <icewaterman> because /dev is not mounted
[23:03] <ZerOlegend> that is where I am getting lost
[23:04] <ZerOlegend> i have only heard of storage devices being mounted
[23:04] <icewaterman> http://pastie.org/9710601
[23:04] <icewaterman> ZerOlegend: /dev/ is a virtual filesystem in memory usually.
[23:04] <icewaterman> either using tmpfs or devtmpfs these days
[23:05] <ZerOlegend> right
[23:05] <icewaterman> so it should be mounted
[23:05] <juniburp> is there a backdoor preinstalled on every ubuntu os for the nsa?
[23:05] <ZerOlegend> that was the output from mount right?
[23:05] <ZerOlegend> no juniburp
[23:05] <icewaterman> ZerOlegend: yes
[23:05] <k1l> juniburp: no
[23:06] <bubbasaures> juniburp, They don't need one your on the web.
[23:06] <ZerOlegend> i have never in my life seen non storage devices in my mounts
[23:06] <juniburp> so why is there a scare with ubuntu?
[23:06] <ZerOlegend> lspci will show other devices
[23:06] <icewaterman> ZerOlegend: udev            /dev            devtmpfs rw,mode=0755   0       0
[23:06] <ZerOlegend> and lsmod
[23:06] <icewaterman> thats the entry in fstab
[23:06] <juniburp> http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=43629.80
[23:06] <ZerOlegend> did you add that to fstab?
[23:06] <k1l> juniburp: it is some FUD made from groups that dont like ubuntu as a beginners linux
[23:07] <k1l> juniburp: and that ones dont know what SELinux actually is
[23:07] <juniburp> k1l: i never heard of SELinux
[23:08] <icewaterman> ZerOlegend: yes i did add it because it didnt mount it without it. unfortunately neither does it now with it being added. here is my lsmod:  http://pastie.org/9710606
[23:08] <icewaterman> as you can see all the necessary modules are there
[23:08] <juniburp> wait, selinux was developed by the nsa
[23:08] <juniburp> so we can't really trust ubuntu
[23:08] <juniburp> or am i stupid?
[23:09] <k1l> juniburp: stop
[23:09] <icewaterman> juniburp: shut up,
[23:09] <juniburp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux
[23:09] <juniburp> it says so in the wiki
[23:09] <ZerOlegend> cause wiki's are 100% truth right?
[23:09] <juniburp> the key concepts were developed by the nsa
[23:09] <ZerOlegend> ubuntu is not selinux
[23:09] <cryptodan> lol juniburp dont like it then dont use anything that uses selinux
[23:09] <k1l> juniburp: yes some nsa teams were working on it. but that doesnt mean they made backdoors to linux
[23:10] <juniburp> so how can one be 100% sure that their system is backdoor-free?
[23:10] <k1l> juniburp: just dont get hysteric if you read nsa somewhere. read and think
[23:10] <ZerOlegend> icewaterman, i have no idea how to help on your situation unless I were playing with the machine in person
[23:10] <k1l> juniburp: its open source. you can see all code that it is
[23:10] <ZerOlegend> you got one complicated setup
[23:10] <icewaterman> there are more fancy ways to get backdoors into software than by putting them into the code.
[23:10] <konner> Hello
[23:11] <juniburp> k1l: i don't have anything to hide but the principle behind the government trying to incriminate you every way then can is appaling
[23:11] <ZerOlegend> well juniburp that is what they do get over it
[23:11] <k1l> juniburp: the task why nsa was working on it was to make more secure linux OS possible to be used by nsa or other government teams. not to make backdoors into linux.
[23:11] <juniburp> icewaterman: the only way i know how to put backdoors are by embedding them into files
[23:11] <ZerOlegend> encrypt your stuff, dont do crime in open areas, live a happy life
[23:11] <icewaterman> juniburp: haha, how naive are you: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Compiler_Collection
[23:12] <k1l> juniburp: you are on the wrong trip. dont get hysteric if you read nsa and just hop on the shitstorm train. read about it and think about it.
[23:12] <juniburp> wow great icewaterman that's some nice language that is impossible to understand, hooray for english names lol
[23:13] <icewaterman> juniburp: even the guys writing the code dont fully understand what they are doing, it is extremly easy to but a backdoor generator into their sources without anyone ever noticing because its not in a place where it would be a threat to gcc but only inside the code its generating and lets be honest who looks at the assembly..
[23:13] <k1l> juniburp: selinux was started by an nsa team but its maintained by google and redhat most times now.
[23:13] <FilthyMacNasty> anyone know how to make qmmp do the web interface thing?
[23:13] <k1l> juniburp: so we can stop calling selinux a backdoor now until you come with a proof, ok?
[23:13] <EriC^^> ZerOlegend: don't do crime in open areas?
[23:13] <juniburp> well google and nsa are best buddies
[23:14] <kostkon> juniburp, ubuntu does not use selinux by default
[23:14] <ZerOlegend> EriC^^, lol just common sense advice
[23:14] <k1l> icewaterman: that is not helpful. please try to be helpful in here
[23:14] <cryptodan> Encryption can be easily broken
[23:14] <ZerOlegend> depends on the bit
[23:14] <EriC^^> how aobut dont do crime, period.
[23:14] <juniburp> someone is sending me malicious links
[23:14] <ZerOlegend> juniburp, you should unplug your computer then
 show gratis (solo hooy) --> http://s422803032.mialojamiento.(REDACTED)
[23:15] <juniburp> i deleted the tld
[23:15] <juniburp> in case you click it on accident
[23:15] <FilthyMacNasty> keeel him
[23:15] <k1l> juniburp: stop that in here. please come back if you have some proof for your backdoor accusations, not only some forumspost where someone talks about something he doesnt even know about.
[23:15] <cryptodan> live a good moral life and government agencies wont want you,
[23:15] <k1l> juniburp: thanks, removed that spammer
[23:15] <bubbasaures> take your m4ds people
[23:16] <ZerOlegend> there you go cryptodan that is what I was trying to get at
[23:16] <juniburp> k1l: i'm not trying to accuse anyone of anything, i'm just trying to feel privacy, something i haven't felt for a really long time
[23:16] <juniburp> now, it's a lot worse after seeing citizenfour
[23:16] <ZerOlegend> hehe
[23:16] <cryptodan> And if you live in a nation that oppresses you then stand up and fight against the oppression just as the USA did back in the 1700's against the british
[23:17] <k1l> juniburp: no need to worry about selinux then, as i explained.
[23:17] <EriC^^> crime isn't really a problem, unless somebody gets hurt
[23:17] <l0rdn1x> lol, juniburp just use Linux pay attention to detail and you will be fine.
[23:17] <Airbander> how can i defrag my hdd on linux ?
[23:17] <ZerOlegend> you don't
[23:17] <timbo_> I keep asking but no response - I need to reinstall Ubuntu and tell it which partition was ROOT. I have ubuntu-vg-root that is 955220MB ext4 and dev/sda2 ext2 255MB. Which one should be installed as root?
[23:17] <CarlFK> how can I have the hostname and maybe IP address show up on my desktop?
[23:17] <juniburp> i'm not going to worry about it, i'm going to learn programming at a high enough level to completely understand what code is doing what
[23:17] <FilthyMacNasty> no need
[23:17] <k1l> and please put the chitchat into #ubuntu-offtopic guys. we need to keep this channel for ubuntu support
[23:17] <Airbander> Zero really ?
[23:17] <ZerOlegend> linux doenst fragment files enough to need it
[23:17] <k1l> Airbander: ext4 doesnt need defrag
[23:17] <l0rdn1x> juniburp, you mean low enough level?
[23:17] <bubbasaures> Airbander, Linux has fsck, don;t defragg a ntfs
[23:17] <Airbander> cooooool
[23:18] <konner> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:18] <FilthyMacNasty> you can fsck once in a while
[23:18] <OerHeks> Airbander, unless it is a SSD, no need for defrag
[23:18] <Airbander> ok any options to optimize linux ?
[23:18] <ZerOlegend> yeah i will fsck once a year maybe
[23:18] <bubbasaures> Airbander, fsck is rarely used however.
[23:18] <Airbander> thanks guys
[23:18] <Airbander> fsck what is this ?
[23:18] <k1l> juniburp: that is a good intention, to help make sure linux is safe.
[23:18] <CarlFK> OerHeks: why would ssd matter?
[23:18] <ZerOlegend> Airbander, file system checker
[23:18] <Airbander> ssd very fast HDD
[23:18] <k1l> Airbander: why optimize?
[23:18] <OerHeks> CarlFK, trim is not standard enabled
[23:19] <Airbander> i just wonder if there is
[23:19] <CarlFK> OerHeks: um.. what's trim?
[23:19] <k1l> OerHeks: it is since 14.04 or 14.10 iirc
[23:19] <Airbander> linux run for me very good i dont need any optimization i just ask that's it
[23:19] <bubbasaures> 14.04
[23:19] <k1l> Airbander: for most users the regular settings are good to run.
[23:20] <ZerOlegend> i used to have a shirt that said FSCK YOU! back in 95
[23:20] <FilthyMacNasty> well I put the swap at the beginning of the disk
[23:20] <Airbander> ok guys what kind of problems i can face using linux ?
[23:20] <FilthyMacNasty> that seems to have a bit of a boost
[23:20] <CarlFK> Airbander: I have found that trying to optimize is a way to burn up time making it a little faster, then more time because you broke something.
[23:20] <k1l> FilthyMacNasty: :/ stop with that myths please
[23:20] <bubbasaures> Airbander, boredom no virus chacing in general.
[23:21] <FilthyMacNasty> just stating what I do and it seems to run better
[23:21] <bubbasaures> chasing*
[23:21] <FilthyMacNasty> !works for me
[23:21] <k1l> Airbander: lets change that. come back if you get some problems and cant solve that.
[23:21] <Airbander> ok
[23:21] <ZerOlegend> Airbander, with linux do not fix it if it is not broken
[23:21] <Airbander> great
[23:21] <ZerOlegend> countless times I have b0rked my setup playing around trying things
[23:22] <Airbander> thanks every one
[23:22] <juniburp> is there a way to run os x apps on ubuntu?
[23:22] <ZerOlegend> no
[23:22] <juniburp> like a wine-esque type app?
[23:22] <FilthyMacNasty> do your experiments in a VM zer0
[23:22] <ZerOlegend> that is what I do now FilthyMacNasty
[23:22] <FilthyMacNasty> juniburp: crossover
[23:22] <konner> Where would you recommend to start for learning about computer security?
[23:22] <Airbander> guys when i make update from terminal
[23:22] <ZerOlegend> i was talking about way back when linux was new
[23:22] <Airbander> should i reboot the machine ?
[23:23] <k1l> juniburp: see if that program is available for ubuntu
[23:23] <k1l> !security | konner
[23:23] <bubbasaures> Airbander, It will tell you when a reboot is needed.
[23:23] <FilthyMacNasty> konner: snoop around some local colleges and find the professor that knows computer security
[23:23] <juniburp> k1l: i need to run logic pro and final cut pro
[23:23] <Airbander> ok
[23:23] <Airbander> ok bubbasaures
[23:23] <bubbasaures> ;)
[23:24] <ZerOlegend> konner, youtube videos for compsec are good or #security here as well as defcon.org resources
[23:24] <juniburp> my college's security teacher got in real big trouble for teaching students how to hack
[23:24] <ZerOlegend> hacking is not a crime
[23:24] <konner> ZerOlegend, FiltyhMacNasty thank you
[23:24] <k1l> !offtopic
[23:24] <ZerOlegend> you should of said juniburp that the professor taught them how to commit a crime with technology
[23:24] <juniburp> whoops sorry k1l
[23:25] <k1l> please stick to actual ubuntu support in here. we have that offtopic channel for chitchat. people try to deal with support issues in here. thanks
[23:25] <FilthyMacNasty> ok how about a web interface media server that actually works?
[23:25] <ZerOlegend> like mist?
[23:25] <ZerOlegend> or myth i mean
[23:25] <juniburp> is there a way to run logic pro on ubuntu?
[23:25] <FilthyMacNasty> I'll give it another swing zer0 but it usually borks me
[23:26] <k1l> juniburp: http://askubuntu.com/questions/232615/digital-audio-workstation-alternatives-to-logic-pro-or-cubase-for-ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/6859/is-there-software-like-macs-logic-pro
[23:26] <ZerOlegend> FilthyMacNasty, try mediatomb
[23:26] <ZerOlegend> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FMediaTomb&ei=iUlhVMeDKdizyAT4poCYDQ&usg=AFQjCNHI1Ji0-bXpjfKQSRk9I49glwI34w&sig2=xEp_QHTK2tqsiXfc3Ja5mg&bvm=bv.79189006,d.aWw
[23:26] <ZerOlegend> damn ass google
[23:26] <ZerOlegend> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MediaTomb
[23:26] <juniburp> k1l: yeah i saw that thank you so much, but i would like to run logic specifically
[23:28] <Airbander> good night guys
[23:34] <juniburp> how did mark shuttleworth become rich?
[23:34] <EriC^^> i think he had a company in his garage or something
[23:35] <EriC^^> for certificates or something
[23:35] <OerHeks> he sold his own build company Thawte and went to space
[23:36] <testerr> Hi all. Is it possible to get 'echo' or 'printf' to interpret only certain escape sequences, but not others?
[23:36] <k1l> juniburp: last time now: dont spoil this channel with offtopic.
[23:38] <juniburp> sorry k1l i thought i was at the offtopic challen my cursor made switched over by accident
[23:39] <juniburp> does anyone develop rails apps?
[23:39] <juniburp> with ubuntu*
[23:40] <nightfly> almost definitely
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[23:42] <Sergio965> infamy: You need a shorter domain name.
[23:42] <k1l> !ot | infamy that is not ubuntu support related at all
[23:43] <infamy> Sergio965: Well I've been looking for acs.* but the TLDs don't make any sense
[23:43] <infamy> And sorry for the off topic. I didn't know.
[23:44] <jeffers1_> Hi there
[23:44] <jeffers1_> First time user. May I ask for ubuntu help?
[23:44] <EriC^^> hello
[23:45] <EriC^^> sure
[23:45] <EriC^^> you get 3 questions
[23:45] <EriC^^> ( just kidding )
[23:45] <jeffers1_> I am finding it extremely difficult to source ubuntu laptops for educational purposes.
[23:45] <jeffers1_> Google is useless. I am talking about approx 200+
[23:46] <m1dnight> guys, I pressed some weird combination of keys today and now I have to readd all my ssh keys after each boot using ssh-add
[23:46] <jeffers1_> In theory. I am open to imports from china etc
[23:46] <cryptodan> jeffers1_: what do you mean by source?
[23:46] <m1dnight> anyone got a clue what i couldve done wrong?
[23:47] <jeffers1_> Well, it seems Microsoft is rammed down your throat. In China they use Linux for education etc etc
[23:47] <k1l> jeffers1_: that sounds like a question for ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic since its about buying/finding some hardware?
[23:47] <jeffers1_> Okay. I will give it a go there. #
[23:47] <cryptodan> jeffers1_: there is edbuntu you can install
[23:47] <jeffers1_> thanks anyway
[23:48] <kahtahs> jeffers1_: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
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