[04:45] <Jucato> Ctrl+Atl+F1-6 gives you about 6 terminals to use
[04:46] <Jucato> jende_: so it won't work only on your boy's PC?
[04:46] <jende_> Jucato: yep
[04:46] <Jucato> :(
[04:50] <PiR> hi
[04:51] <PiR> i've a pb with my printer
[04:51] <PiR> in windows : no pb all right
[04:51] <PiR> but in kubuntu
[04:51] <PiR> when i want to print
[04:51] <PiR> the printer give empty page
[04:51] <PiR> empty pages
[04:52] <PiR> and doesn't stop
[04:52] <PiR> i have to stop manualy my printer
[04:52] <PiR> how can i configure my printer ?
[04:53] <CVirus> PiR: press alt + f2 and type kprinter and hit enter
[04:56] <PiR> thanks
[05:01] <sebsebseb> Hi
[05:01] <sebsebseb> I got Ubuntu and Kubuntu here
[05:01] <sebsebseb> and it uses the Gnome Display Manager
[05:01] <sebsebseb> however well
[05:01] <sebsebseb> When it opens up the GDM  it gives me this message:  The greeter application appears to be crashing.  Attempting to use another one.  Then now well I got the default theme again ;)  ,but it seems to not be disaplying quite right.   When I log out of KDE I get this: The application The KDE Session Manager (ksmserver) crashed and caused the signal 11, (SIGSEGV)
[05:02] <sebsebseb> yeah  I just had to change the theme didn't I,  I regret this now, because of the problems
[05:02] <SHRIKEE> ?
[05:02] <sebsebseb> GDM and KDM are pretty much the same thing?  maybe I should just change to KDM
[05:02] <sebsebseb> ,but anyone know how to fix the above problems?
[05:03] <SHRIKEE> Gnome and KDE you mean
[05:03] <sebsebseb> no
[05:03] <sebsebseb> Gnome Display Manager and K Display Manager
[05:03] <sebsebseb> the log in thing
[05:03] <sebsebseb> into Ubuntu/Kubuntu etc
[05:03] <dinosaur-rus> anyone uses Opera's e-mail client on Yahoo! account?
[05:04] <SHRIKEE> oh, i dont know about that, sebsebseb
[05:04] <sebsebseb> Yahoo sucks , but that's another story
[05:04] <SHRIKEE> why does yahoo suck
[05:04] <sebsebseb> ,because they are arse holes,  I used to be rather loyal to them and use them for my emails,  but well
[05:04] <v3ctor> yahoomail doesn't support pop
[05:04] <SHRIKEE> ...
[05:04] <SHRIKEE> yahoo does
[05:04] <SHRIKEE> but not for free acounts
[05:05] <v3ctor> who would pay for yahoo mail ;)
[05:05] <SHRIKEE> i dont know
[05:05] <SHRIKEE> but thats how it is
[05:05] <sebsebseb> one night I changed my password,  and that was it,  coudn't remember it so,  carn't get into that account anymore.  I contacted them  many times, and loads of auto shit,  and then once I got a email from a real person,  but it was only to copmplain that I hadn't put my date of birthd exactly as my profile,  you know there are differnet ways to put a dob
[05:05] <sebsebseb> so conclusion Yahoo are fucks
[05:06] <v3ctor> there is a tool that will download your yahoo mail and allow you to access it via local mail client
[05:06] <sebsebseb> Hell even Hotmail has better suppourt than Yahoo
[05:06] <SHRIKEE> sebsebseb, dont be so silly to fill in the wrong b-day then
[05:06] <dinosaur-rus> well, may be someone knows how to delete Yahoo! mail account by not waiting until it gets deleted for inactivity?
[05:06] <SHRIKEE> also there this option to retrieve the password
[05:06] <sebsebseb> no I put in my dob
[05:06] <sebsebseb> just not the way they wanted it
[05:07] <SHRIKEE> anyway, were not here to discuss the yahoo suckage
[05:07] <sebsebseb> dinosaur-rus:  Gmail is pretty good as in Google Mail
[05:08] <SHRIKEE> <3
[05:08] <dinosaur-rus> sebsebseb: I had to create that account due to e-mail delivery confusion on one site. now I want to delete it, but dunno how
[05:09] <sebsebseb> dionsuar-rus:  surely you can just stop using the account,  and get some other email account?
[05:09] <SHRIKEE> if such options is there it would be hidding in the options panel or perhaps in the profile editing thing
[05:09] <SHRIKEE> im off for a bit
[05:10] <dinosaur-rus> sebsebseb: well, just didn't want for several months until it gets deleted :))
[05:10] <sebsebseb> HOw do I change from the GDM to KDM?
[05:10] <sebsebseb> or
[05:10] <sebsebseb> how do I fix this?
[05:10] <sebsebseb> When it opens up the GDM  it gives me this message:  The greeter application appears to be crashing.  Attempting to use another one.  Then now well I got the default theme again ;)  ,but it seems to not be disaplying quite right.   When I log out of KDE I get this: The application The KDE Session Manager (ksmserver) crashed and caused the signal 11, (SIGSEGV)
[05:11] <dennister> |lostbyte|: hi. u busy? I've only got a minute
[05:11] <dennister> hello all
[05:12] <dennister> question: are most people here using the ubuntu repositories, or the kubuntu stable ones?
[05:14] <dinosaur-rus> dennister: I'm using main, restricted, universe and multiverse repositories
[05:14] <dennister> dinosaur-rus: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:15] <dennister> and which version of kde?
[05:17] <norman> this is makaveli the last don
[05:17] <dennister> I can't believe i didn't find the kubuntu repositories until today...perhaps because I started out with the ubuntu lamp server, then added desktops on top of it
[05:18] <dennister> so most of my repositories are still for ubuntu...it's confusing: when to use ubuntu and when kubuntu
[05:19] <sebsebseb> kubuntu has it's own resporitoires?
[05:19] <sebsebseb> and Ubuntu has it's own
[05:19] <sebsebseb> and I got both Ubuntu was there first
[05:19] <sebsebseb> then I put KDE Kbuntu
[05:19] <dennister> has anyone done a chroot environment for 32-bit apps on a amd64-bit platform? I'm really struggling with java
[05:19] <sebsebseb> so your saying my Kubuntu won't be exactly like the other one?
[05:20] <dennister> sebsebseb: yes, kubuntu has repositories of its own apparently...i just added it and got my kde upgraded to stable 3.5.5
[05:20] <petter> hey
[05:21] <dennister> sebsebseb: i'm not sure which kubuntu you have, and which one you're comparing it to
[05:21] <sebsebseb> well I just had Ubuntu
[05:21] <sebsebseb> and installed kubuntu-desktop
[05:21] <dennister> and u probably have kde 3.5.2, right?
[05:21] <dennister> that's the kde version available from ubuntu repositories, anyway
[05:22] <dinosaur-rus> dennister: Kubuntu Edgy
[05:22] <dennister> dinosaur-rus: ok...i'm using dapper
[05:23] <dennister> anyone done a chroot environment?  i need the right sun-java...and the farthest i got was some java applets on firefox working...but then it would crash firefox itself
[05:24] <dennister> sun java is seemingly as difficult as the ivtv drivers :(
[05:25] <dinosaur-rus> how to disable Adept tray notification?
[05:26] <BluesKaj> success! ...back in X!
[05:26] <dennister> congrats BluesKaj
[05:27] <BluesKaj> thx dennister
[05:27] <oliver> Stairs
[05:27] <oliver> whjere are the staitrs
[05:27] <oliver> I cant find the stairs
[05:27] <BluesKaj> on yer right
[05:27] <dennister> hey tony_ welcome neighbour
[05:27] <Lynoure> oliver: apt-cache search stairs
[05:27] <Lynoure> :)
[05:27] <oliver> :)
[05:28] <tony__> how can i unlock my adept.. ? for some reason , vmware player trying to install, but during intall , it crashes my system
[05:29] <oliver> how do you mean unlock
[05:29] <dennister> tony_ look for your apt's cache directory
[05:29] <oliver> *what do you mena
[05:29] <oliver> *ean
[05:29] <v3ctor> ps -ef|grep adept
[05:29] <tony__> when i enter the adept, i get the message saying , is locked and i can not update , upgrade , is been used by other process , user
[05:29] <v3ctor> see if it is still running
[05:30] <oliver> grep | blond | mount
[05:30] <oliver> much more fun
[05:30] <oliver> *blonde
[05:30] <dennister> tony_ close the other program
[05:30] <tony__> once, i entered someting like this in .. --configure -a . .but i don't remember the first command.
[05:30] <tony__> i rebooted the system , but still get the same thing
[05:31] <dennister> hmmm...try looking in apt's cache...see if the broken package is there and delete it
[05:31] <trappist> !adept-crash-fix
[05:31] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:31] <dennister> thx trappist
[05:31] <tony__> dose kubuntu need any vmware to run ???
[05:32] <dinosaur-rus> !adept-tray
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-tray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <dennister> I don't have vmware
[05:32] <dinosaur-rus> !adept tray
[05:32] <dennister> kubunt runs fine
[05:32] <trappist> dinosaur-rus: try uninstalling adept-notifier
[05:32] <tony__> no idea whay there are many vmware has been installed :|
[05:32] <tony__> got to stop and start x .. be right back
[05:32] <trappist> of course that will take adept with it
[05:33] <dinosaur-rus> trappist: I'm afraid it'll take other packages out :))
[05:33] <trappist> dinosaur-rus: you should be able to right-click the icon and shut adept_notifier down, and when you do it should ask if you want it to start automatically next time
[05:34] <dinosaur-rus> trappist: ty, will try that later
[05:35] <tony__> damn. my adept still locked. and i can not make any changes to packages ..
[05:35] <tony__> :(:(:(
[05:35] <Pupeno_> Hello.
[05:36] <tony__> how can i kill adept process .. ? i have no permission to do so
[05:36] <B-Minus> tony__: run adept with root
[05:36] <Pupeno_> does anybody know how do I connect to a NT domain to be able to access some shares ?
[05:36] <dinosaur-rus> tony__: sudo kill adept_manager ?
[05:36] <B-Minus> kdesu Adept
[05:36] <dinosaur-rus> *killall
[05:37] <dennister> Pupeno_: do u have samba installed?
[05:37] <Pupeno_> dennister: yes.
[05:37] <B-Minus> Pupeno_: download smb4k
[05:37] <B-Minus> its a gui
[05:37] <B-Minus> it automaticaly mounts shares
[05:37] <B-Minus> using samba
[05:38] <Pupeno_> B-Minus: in what repo is it ?
[05:39] <dennister> gottago pps...perhaps later someone can help me with java & chroot
[05:41] <B-Minus> Pupeno_: i think universe
[05:41] <B-Minus> or multiverse
[05:41] <B-Minus> dunno
[05:42] <tony__> damn. i cann't remove vmware .. using adept. how else i can remove them , i get error
[05:42] <B-Minus> http://smb4k.berlios.de/
[05:42] <kraut> does anybody know, why i don't have any sound in ut2004?
[05:43] <hazard2> I vote gravity.
[05:44] <tony__> ok, i removed almost all vmware, but vmware-player , is set to upgradable, is not being removed..
[05:44] <hazard2> try purging?
[05:44] <tony__> i did , but keeps getting error.
[05:44] <tony__> will try again
[05:45] <hazard2> maybe its in use by someting somehow?
[05:45] <tony__> got the error saying , there was an error commiting changes. .....
[05:45] <hazard2> yea, that's about it.
[05:45] <hazard2> what's the package name?
[05:45] <tony__> there was many vmwares but i did manage to remove them ..
[05:45] <hazard2> (the LITERAL name)
[05:45] <tony__> vmware-player
[05:46] <tony__> is set to upgradable
[05:46] <hazard2> if you try using apt-get remove from the command line to remove that package, it might give a more...useful error
[05:46] <hazard2> apt-get remove vmware-player
[05:46] <hazard2> sudo
[05:46] <hazard2> (before it)
[05:46] <tony__> because of that package , i can not upgrade nor install anything from adept
[05:46] <hazard2> I see...
[05:48] <tony__> cant do that either using sudo apt-get remove
[05:48] <tony__> i get error were encountered while processing
[05:50] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: do 'sudo apt-get remove vmware-player' and pastebin the error
[05:50] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin
[05:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:50] <hazard2> is the error diffrent?
[05:50] <hazard2> yea, that's what I was going for.
[05:50] <hazard2> listen to bonbonthejon, he probably has sleep.
[05:50] <BonBonTheJon> yup
[05:50] <hazard2> And I'm...umm....a hazard.
[05:50] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: late night?
[05:51] <hazard2> calc test this morning, never sleep good before those.
[05:51] <hazard2> (coupled with a new roomate means spotty sleep from midnight to 6)
[05:51] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: what school do you go to
[05:51] <hazard2> You could tell by my IP.
[05:52] <BonBonTheJon> ok
[05:52] <hazard2> that IP should resolve to some sillyly long DNS name .uml.edu
[05:53] <tony__> forget it ,will install window .. done with linux..
[05:53] <hazard2> Awww!
[05:53] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: what is your problem
[05:53] <hazard2> Windows does dozens more things more annoying than linux.
[05:53] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: the ip doesnt resolve
[05:54] <Galathalion> i need a good ftpklient
[05:54] <hazard2> vmware-player won't uninstall
[05:54] <tony__> yes
[05:54] <|lostbyte|> Galathalion, konqueror
[05:54] <tony__> and i can not do upgrade or instll other stuff
[05:54] <hazard2> meh, either way its umass lowell.
[05:54] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: I just looked it up
[05:55] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: pastebin the error so we can help out
[05:55] <tony__> i can't
[05:55] <hazard2> Why?
[05:55] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: why not
[05:56] <tony__> thanks for the help.. im done with linux.. atleast for now ..
[05:56] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: you can dual boot linux and windows
[05:56] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: that way you can try it out
[05:56] <tony__> i have .
[05:57] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: so why can't you pastebin
[05:57] <tony__> but wanted linux to be the only one. but with all this problmes i m having.. hehhehe, i guess i better off with OS , that i know more
[05:58] <tony__> vmware -player stops upgrading, becuase it stops on end user licence and i can not click the OK button .
[05:58] <hazard2> I hate windows, windows does so many things I don't want it to do, and there is *NO* way to have it stop having a little mind of its own.
[05:58] <tony__> thus , vmware player never ends up getting updated..
[05:58] <hazard2> at least with linux I can easily delete|remove|murder|reconfigure|make-not-run whatever bothers me
[05:58] <tony__> nor adept can remove it from upgrade or remove it completly
[05:58] <xsacha> recompile :D
[05:58] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: are you updating adept or apt-get
[05:58] <|lostbyte|> tony__, You bought the software ?
[05:59] <tony__> no
[05:59] <tony__> downloaded
[05:59] <|lostbyte|> k, why do you want vmware ?
[05:59] <tony__> i don't
[06:00] <sebsebseb> How do I customize the KDM (Kubuntu log into account program)
[06:00] <tony__> for some reason they are installed and vmware player marked for upgrade
[06:00] <sebsebseb> ?
[06:00] <hazard2> not to sound like an idiot, but why did it get installed?
[06:00] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: pastebin the error and we can try to help
[06:00] <hazard2> and to sound even more like an idiot, what is vmware?
[06:00] <|lostbyte|> sebsebseb, kcontrol.
[06:00] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: lol
[06:00] <tony__> BonBonTheJon thanks.. ,
[06:00] <BonBonTheJon> !vmware
[06:00] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[06:00] <sebsebseb> VMware is a virtual machine program that allows you to run more than one operating system inside an operating system
[06:01] <|lostbyte|> !vmware
[06:01] <sebsebseb> VMware Player sucks you would want Server
[06:01] <Furesho> okay. maybe someone knows today..... how do i upgrade from FF<IP_ADDRESS> to FF2?
[06:01] <|lostbyte|> oppz.
[06:01] <hazard2> o.O I see....
[06:01] <tony__> i don't want vmware, im not sure how they eneded up installing on my system :|
[06:01] <sebsebseb> kcontrol yo umean system settings.   I been in there and looked and find nothing about it
[06:02] <tony__> i just can't pass the END USER LICENCE AGREEMENT
[06:02] <tony__> LOL
[06:02] <|lostbyte|> Furesho, the package ant yet there.
[06:02] <BonBonTheJon> sebsebseb: I think you need to install a package to get to the KDM stuff
[06:02] <sebsebseb> oh
[06:02] <BonBonTheJon> sebsebseb: search adept for kdm
[06:02] <sebsebseb> I got KDM installed
[06:02] <sebsebseb> now I Just want to customize it
[06:02] <sebsebseb> or go back to GDM :)
[06:03] <BonBonTheJon> sebsebseb: there is a plugin for kcontrol to change KDM
[06:03] <sebsebseb> I am only trying KDM now,  because of problems with GDM
[06:03] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: can you PM me
[06:03] <sebsebseb> kcontrol where is that?  or I need to install it?
[06:03] <|lostbyte|> sebsebseb, kcontrol > system administration > login manager
[06:04] <tony__> how do i pm you bonbon
[06:04] <tony__> :)
[06:04] <|lostbyte|> sebsebseb, right_click desktop > run > kcontrol
[06:04] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: are you in konversation
[06:04] <tony__> yes
[06:04] <hazard2> can k3b burn an image over data already on a CDRW without erasing it first? (a better question would be will it know to erase the disk first?)
[06:04] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: right click on my name and click query
[06:05] <hazard2> unless tony_ is a registered nick, I don't think that he can.
[06:05] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: you might not be able to
[06:05] <|lostbyte|> hazard2, yes, its in the tools option.
[06:05] <tony__> right, i can not send you PM
[06:05] <hazard2> lostbyte: where...is the tools?
[06:05] <sebsebseb> carn't seem to find kcontrol  I guess it's not instaled or something
[06:05] <tony__> but realy , thanks for the help .. will sort this thing somehow
[06:05] <hazard2> There's so many thingies....
[06:06] <hazard2> whcih do...things....
[06:06] <TheGateKeeper> sebsebseb: Run Command.. kcontrol
[06:06] <trappist> sebsebseb: you cen just run kcontrol from the command line, but mostly it's replaced by systemsettings so they don't put it in the menu
[06:06] <|lostbyte|> hazard2, on the main menu, right on top.
[06:06] <trappist> s/cen/can/
[06:06] <hazard2> OH RIGHt...that menu
[06:06] <hazard2> duh
[06:07] <tony__> can i reintsall ubuntu without formating linux partition and stuff .. ????
[06:08] <hazard2> Umm....you should....be able to....
[06:08] <BonBonTheJon> tony__: it will reformat, but it shouldn't change anything
[06:08] <MidMark> does kubuntu edgy works with mac-intel?
[06:08] <sebsebseb> I already been in there,  and I thought login manager that's not it,  that's the Splash screen when KDE is loading.
[06:08] <tony__> or better yet, can i reinstall other linux version withought formating
[06:08] <sebsebseb> I am on about the first thing that people get before they even say load KDE
[06:08] <abattoir> MidMark: yup, it does
[06:08] <hazard2> if you delete all the stuff on the drive I think so
[06:08] <sebsebseb> where they put in the password and username for the account
[06:08] <MidMark> abattoir: the 32 bit normal version will work?
[06:09] <|lostbyte|> tony__, You will need to have a linux partiiton, and space.
[06:09] <hazard2> boot from the cd, then get to a command line and have it mount the primary linux harddrive partition and delete everything
[06:09] <abattoir> MidMark: yes, it should
[06:09] <MidMark> also dapper works on a mac-intel?
[06:09] <tony__> i have linux partition and swap file ..
[06:09] <tony__> just matter of reinstalling OS in the same place .. and hope that fix the problme.
[06:09] <tony__> this would be my 6 times of installation . lol. mastering the linux instalation ..
[06:10] <TheGateKeeper> tony__: you can install loads of different linux distro onto the same hdd using different partitions, but you may have to go & manually edit menu.list
[06:10] <carsten> Moin, can somebody reproduce this OpenOffice bug? (crash) https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/68219
[06:10] <trappist> ok I'm very confused.  Sometimes I have tab-close buttons on all my tabs, and sometimes only on the active tab.  in firefox.  any guesses why?
[06:11] <hazard2> tony_: I've gone though that sequence (installing borking and reinstalling linux and windows) so many times
[06:11] <tony__> yes.. im not good with liux yet as you can see, just one linux would be fine.. wanted to cross over from window to linux but with all problmes ,im having , i have sencond thoughts
[06:11] <MidMark> hazard2: because you have too many tabs
[06:11] <trappist> ah ha.  they go away when I have 8 or more tabs
[06:11] <|lostbyte|> trappist, you have installed that extention.
[06:11] <MidMark> sorry trappist
[06:11] <hazard2> I think my favriote time was the time I deleted the sudo command on a machine with no 'real' root account.
[06:12] <trappist> the only tab-related extension I have is tab mix plus, and it's disabled
[06:12] <|lostbyte|> lol :)
[06:12] <hazard2> Or one of the times I creatively locked myself out of windows with no way to fix it (that's happened several times actually).
[06:12] <tony__> do you know of a site that describes all linux distro with link to downlaod ?? i used to go to linuxiso.org, but they seems to be down for long time
[06:12] <hazard2> (playing with gpedit.msc group policies is bad)
[06:12] <|lostbyte|> tony_, distrowatch.com
[06:13] <|lostbyte|> tony__, ^^
[06:13] <tony__> thanks.. will take a look at it now
[06:13] <Hawkwind> trappist: I use swiftfox with tab mix plus and I have 18 tabs open and all have the close X button :)
[06:13] <hazard2> with k3b what's the diffrence between the 'writing modes'?
[06:14] <|lostbyte|> tony__, ubuntu / kubuntu is the best OS. Just wait till tomm. and the 6.10 ver will be out. Download and install it.
[06:15] <tony__> one too many distro.. for linux..
[06:16] <hazard2> that's why its great!
[06:16] <tony__> what soo great about it .. if you don't mind me asking
[06:18] <|lostbyte|> tony__, Whats not greate about it ? Once setup properly, you will never have to reinstall.
[06:18] <tony__> i mean what soo great about having too many distro
[06:19] <|lostbyte|> tony__, Choices, You have choices..
[06:19] <BluesKaj> so |lostbyte|, tomorrow i just need to do a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade to get the "official edgy 6.10" release , since i'm running the latest edgy release right now ?
[06:19] <trappist> tony__: if you don't like one, use another
[06:19] <eltese> Hi ! =) Where do I change my keyboard language? Cant find it :(
[06:19] <D4rkly> has anyone got ventrilo working ?
[06:19] <Hawkwind> eltese: You can do it in kcontrol or systemsettings
[06:20] <sebsebseb> leaving
[06:20] <tony__> they all the same .. :) , with new problmes, and some short comming that microsoft love to see
[06:20] <sebsebseb> leaving
[06:20] <sebsebseb> gone
[06:20] <eltese> Hawkwind: where in system settings?
[06:20] <|lostbyte|> BluesKaj, yes, do the aptitude upgrade first.
[06:20] <BluesKaj> eltese, Regional & Language
[06:20] <Hawkwind> eltese: Regional & Accessibility ?
[06:20] <eltese> thanks =)
[06:21] <gsuveg> re
[06:21] <gsuveg> i have problem with /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py
[06:21] <gsuveg> [18:18]  <gsuveg> dont detect my batterys
[06:21] <gsuveg> [18:18]  <gsuveg> acpi -t show correctly the data
[06:21] <gsuveg> [18:18]  <gsuveg> any idea for debug ?
[06:21] <gsuveg> sry for cross post ;)
[06:21] <D4rkly> does anyone know how to get ventrilo working ?
[06:21] <Hawkwind> gsuveg: Dapper or Edgy ?
[06:21] <gsuveg> edgy
[06:21] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: Please don't repeate your questions ever 3 minutes
[06:22] <Hawkwind> gsuveg: I don't use Edgy on my main box, but have you tried asking in the Edgy channel, #Ubuntu+1 ?
[06:22] <gsuveg> Hawkwind: ok. in not a newbie
[06:22] <gsuveg> thanks anyway
[06:23] <joakim> hi
[06:24] <joakim> mu Logitech dont work in my Kubuntu Edgy. How can i fix it ?
[06:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what about xubuntu.. if i want to try it starting from kubuntu... is it possible?
[06:24] <Hawkwind> Tallia1Kubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:24] <Hawkwind> Tallia1Kubuntu: Once installed, then you will be able to select Xfce from your GUI login manager
[06:25] <joakim> my Logitech mx 5000 dont work in my Kubuntu Edgy. How can i fix it ?
[06:26] <joakim> my Logitech mx 5000 dont work in my Kubuntu Edgy. How can i fix it ?
[06:27] <|lostbyte|> joakim, ask at #Ubuntu+1
[06:27] <Hawkwind> joakim: Please don't repeat your questions every minute
[06:27] <Hawkwind> joakim: Define doesn't work
[06:27] <tony__> anyone has experianced Open suse 10.1 ??? any idea about it
[06:27] <joakim> i use kubuntu dont ubuntu
[06:27] <fildo> hey how do i kill Xvnc
[06:28] <fildo> well stop service
[06:28] <Hawkwind> killall xvnc or something similar
[06:28] <Hawkwind> Or ps aux | grep <app>  and then kill the PID#'s
[06:28] <fildo> yah but see im getting some goon
[06:28] <fildo> trying to spoof my server thru xvnc
[06:29] <fildo> so i kill it, comes back up
[06:29] <fildo> etc
[06:29] <judgen> does kubuntu use the bittorrent package?
[06:29] <fildo> ktorrent
[06:29] <fildo> if not install it
[06:30] <Hawkwind> judgen: It can if you want to use it, yes
[06:30] <judgen> where can i check dependencies for ktorrent
[06:30] <Hawkwind> judgen: You're not forced to use ktorrent
[06:30] <Slynderdale> Kubuntu comes with bitorrent built in I believe, upon start up, it starts a bitorrent process
[06:30] <Hawkwind> judgen: packages.ubuntu.com might list all the deps
[06:30] <judgen> my ktorrent crashes every once and a while without any error message
[06:30] <Hawkwind> judgen: Do you have the latest ktorrent, 2.0.3 ?
[06:30] <judgen> does so on both my custom installed boxes
[06:35] <judgen> also azureus wont start
[06:35] <judgen> all i get is splash screen
[06:35] <judgen> any ideas?
[06:38] <|lostbyte|> judgen, sudo apt-get remove --purge ktorrent;sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[06:43] <foodcoman> Greetings
[06:43] <Hawkwind> Finally!  Swiftfox 2.0 deb packages have arrived :)
[06:44] <eltese> why wont my kubunt accept my language for keyboard?
[06:44] <eltese> Still got USA style :\
[06:49] <foodcoman> Oh man Splits are a pain.
[06:50] <scion> hello all
[06:51] <foodcoman> scion: What do you drive?
[06:52] <picarito> hi, where store the mails kmail ?
[06:53] <scion> nissan almera
[06:53] <scion> whay you ask foodcoman
[06:53] <scion> *why
[06:53] <tackat__> picarito: depends on your version of KDE
[06:54] <tackat__> picarito: usually that is .kde/share/apps/kmail
[06:54] <foodcoman> scion: I was wondering about your Nick is all?
[06:55] <Homer> can konq use flash 9?
[06:55] <foodcoman> scion: I think they look kinda neat
[06:56] <picarito> tackat: thanks
[06:57] <scion> foodcoman: personally i think they look a little "boxy"
[06:57] <foodcoman> scion: Yeah me too, but I appreciate function sometimes over cosmetics.
[06:58] <foodcoman> scion: Like Linux Konsole!  =)
[06:58] <scion> foodcoman: the tC is the only one of their range i would be seen in driving!
[06:58] <scion> konsole is ugly, aterm all the way
[06:59] <scion> foodcoman: http://www.bolicious.com/misc/show-tc-fix.jpg
[06:59] <foodcoman> Not many questions for help.  Not that I could answer any.
[07:00] <scion> now you have said something there will be a flood of ppl
[07:00] <foodcoman> I am going to join #kubuntu-offtopic for chatter.  OK?
[07:01] <B-Minus> how can i install a .deb file i downloaded ??
[07:01] <|lostbyte|> B-Minus, dpkg -i <file>.deb
[07:01] <B-Minus> tnx
[07:01] <scion> B-Minus: open a terminal
[07:01] <scion> |lostbyte| got there first!
[07:02] <abattoir> B-Minus: or right click on the file ->Actions->Install Package
[07:02] <foodcoman> Anyone have a busy Kubuntu/Ubuntu rss?
[07:03] <eddy> hi i can remove my panel to top on the screen. Whay it want to go top on the screen ?
[07:04] <abattoir> eddy: you mean it has moved to the top of the screen and you want to move it?
[07:04] <abattoir> eddy: you mean it has moved to the top of the screen and you want to move it?
[07:05] <eddy> yes
[07:05] <xsacha> yes eddy, go to Panels in Appearance
[07:05] <abattoir> eddy: click on an empty area there and drag it to where you want it
[07:05] <eddy> u go tol option on the panel and try to put i top on the screen but he dont remove to top :(
[07:05] <abattoir> eddy: Alternatively you can rt. click->Configure Panels->Appearance, and then choose where you want it
[07:06] <xsacha> Configure Panel->Arrangement works too in edgy, yeah
[07:06] <eddy> i use edgy
[07:06] <xsacha> good
[07:06] <B-Minus> tnx it worked
[07:08] <eddy> the one of panel remove to the top of the sreen but not the tool bar panel
[07:09] <Electrolyte> I think I'll use standard X until XGL is in stable areas.
[07:09] <xsacha> xgl is dying
[07:09] <Electrolyte> Just crashed, locking my system up - thank goodness I didn't lose the climate model I have running :/
[07:09] <xsacha> was only meant to be used for a little while in transition i think
[07:09] <scion> it is sooo over rated!
[07:09] <Electrolyte> I love the eye-candy, but I prefer stability over it.
[07:09] <xsacha> it's a hacky implementation that isnt needed now
[07:10] <xsacha> well some people need it
[07:11] <foodcoman> xsacha: What is next?
[07:11] <xsacha> drivers having inbuilt
[07:13] <eddy> hi go to this page http://bildr.no/view/16391  end see what i mean whit remove panel to the top og the  screen but it dont go to the top
[07:14] <abattoir> eddy: you want those icons in the bottom panel to go into the top panel?
[07:15] <eddy> yes
[07:15] <eddy> but it wont go to the top
[07:16] <abattoir> eddy: rt. click on the panel(the bottom one)->Remove from panel->Applet->Quick Launcher
[07:17] <abattoir> eddy: then rt. click on the top panel ->Add Applet to panel->Quick Launcher
[07:17] <eddy> i now but it wont not go to the top
[07:17] <abattoir> hi Hawkwind :)
[07:18] <abattoir> 'afternoon
[07:18] <Hawkwind> abattoir: How are ya today
[07:19] <swanfl> does anyone know if koffice 1.6 is available yet?
[07:19] <swanfl> if so, how do I get it?
[07:20] <Hawkwind> Yes
[07:20] <swanfl> yes to who, Hawkwind ?
[07:20] <Hawkwind> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-16/ dapper main
[07:20] <swanfl> thanks buddy :)
[07:21] <B-Minus> is koffice better then openoffice ?
[07:21] <B-Minus> openoffice has very bad fonts it renders from itself or something
[07:21] <Electrolyte> That's one thing I don't like with openoffice.
[07:22] <Electrolyte> AA on the fonts even though it's off on my system.
[07:22] <swanfl> koffice isn't necessarily better than openoffice
[07:22] <swanfl> openoffice needs java for one
[07:22] <foodcoman> I like Open Orifice because its multi platform.
[07:22] <Hawkwind> B-Minus: Better is very subjective
[07:23] <Hawkwind> B-Minus: What might be better for us, might be horrible for you
[07:23] <B-Minus> ye
[07:23] <xsacha> KOffice cant open my microsoft office files, OpenOffice can..
[07:23] <Electrolyte> krita's data package is 28.9MB? Woah?
[07:23] <|lostbyte|> xsacha, openoffice can.
[07:23] <hazard2> I don't like either of them, they're both too big.
[07:23] <swanfl> hswk, isi t available for edgy?
[07:23] <hazard2> (me and my 4gb drive)
[07:23] <xsacha> thats what i said lostbyte..
[07:23] <swanfl> is it*
[07:24] <Hawkwind> swanfl: Yes
[07:24] <swanfl> Krita is a good competitor to the gimp
[07:24] <Electrolyte> dpkg
[07:24] <Electrolyte> Woops.
[07:24] <|lostbyte|> :P
[07:24] <swanfl> thanks Hawkwind
[07:25] <swanfl> Hawkwind, do I need the trailing / in the line in my sources .list?
[07:25] <xsacha> does it bother you? :P
[07:25] <Hawkwind> swanfl: Totally up to you
[07:26] <|lostbyte|> swanfl, both will do.
[07:26] <swanfl> ok, just making sure
[07:26] <swanfl> :)
[07:26] <swanfl> didn't want to mess up my sources.list :)
[07:27] <meik_> hallo an alle
[07:27] <londondave> anyone know why you can't play flash video files (flv) in mplayer or vlc in edgy?
[07:28] <BonBonTheJon> !de | meik_
[07:28] <ubotu> meik_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:28] <|lostbyte|> londondave, you get picture ?
[07:28] <londondave> |lostbyte|, what's that
[07:29] <|lostbyte|> londondave, Audio, vidoe ? both doest work ?
[07:29] <londondave> |lostbyte|, plays audio no video
[07:30] <swanfl> thanks Hawkwind I'm pulling it in now :)
[07:30] <|lostbyte|> londondave, mplayer -vc help | grep flv      ..?
[07:30] <Hawkwind> swanfl: No problem
[07:31] <swanfl> so any anticipated changes before it goes live tomorrow?
[07:31] <swanfl> edgy I mean
[07:31] <eddy> damn it dont work :-(
[07:32] <londondave> |lostbyte|, this is what it said: ffflv       ffmpeg    working   FFmpeg Flash video  [flv]
[07:32] <|lostbyte|> londondave, sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[07:32] <Ash-Fox> While upgrading to edgy, I find I can't upgrade anymore
[07:32] <Ash-Fox> The following packages have been kept back: azureus gpredict hpijs kde-guidance libggi2 mplayer python-adns python-clientcookie python-crypto python-egenix-mxproxy python-egenix-mxstack python-egenix-mxtexttools python-egenix-mxtools python-gadfly python-htmlgen python-htmltmpl python-imaging python-imaging-sane python-jabber python-kde3 python-kjbuckets python-ldap python-mysqldb python-pam python-pexpect python-pgsql python-pylibacl
[07:32] <Ash-Fox> python-pyopenssl python-pyorbit python-pyxattr python-qt3 python-reportlab python-simpletal python-soappy python-sqlite python-syck python-xml python-xmpp xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-elographics xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[07:33] <draik> It's a wonderful day on network'hood, It's a wonderful day for my network.. won't you be my.. won't you be.. my peer!
[07:33] <trappist> Ash-Fox: try installing them individually, e.g. sudo apt-get install azureus
[07:33] <Ash-Fox> Not sure what todo here, since a wonderful dist-upgrade won't fix it. I suppose I would have to uninstall xserver-xorg manually and reinstall it (assuming that's what's holding back most of those packages)
[07:34] <londondave> |lostbyte|, its says I have the newest version of ffmpeg?
[07:34] <|lostbyte|> londondave, oh, try ffplay <file>.flv
[07:34] <Ash-Fox> trappist, alrighty
[07:34] <londondave> |lostbyte|, will try that
[07:35] <Ash-Fox> trappist, ah, this seems to be working. thanks :)
[07:35] <swanfl> Ash-Fox, aside from the fact that you should have used pastebin, I do notice the same group of packages being held back on my system. I have no clue what they are for or why they are being held back. :)
[07:37] <MukiEX> How do I turn off monitor sleep through KDE?
[07:37] <londondave> |lostbyte|, ffplay only plays the sound with unsupported codec scrolling up the console?
[07:38] <LjL> MukiEX: system settings / monitor and display / power saving
[07:38] <TheGateKeeper> if you can make your menu transparent in kde, anyone know why you have to have 3D acceleration etc to make windows transparent?
[07:39] <Ash-Fox> swanfl, I installed xserver-xorg-core and now I can dist-upgrade everything else. Guess my theory was right :P
[07:39] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: transparency in KDE, without XGL or AIGLX, is fake
[07:39] <Blacken> TheGateKeeper: OpenGL transparency effects would be really, really slow in software.
[07:39] <|lostbyte|> londondave, Try it with another flv file, i think this flv was created by a newer version of flash. which is currently not yet fully suported..
[07:39] <MukiEX> Thanks, LjL
[07:39] <swanfl> Ash-Fox, did you mean can't?
[07:39] <Ash-Fox> Nope
[07:39] <londondave> |lostbyte|, that must be it-thanks
[07:40] <|lostbyte|> np ;)
[07:41] <draik> How many people here have SUCESSFULLY upgraded to Edgy?
[07:42] <Ash-Fox> draik, I probably will have in a moment
[07:42] <swanfl> I have ot a point, draik
[07:42] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: Blacken just seems slightly bizzare that you can do it with no problems with the menu, yet with windows it all goes pear-shaped if you don't have the acceleration
[07:42] <londondave> |lostbyte|, funny thing is I have the flash9beta stand alone player and that won't play it either-weird, plays in FLV Player for XP though
[07:42] <BluesKaj> draik, it tok a bit of doing , but so far so good in edgy :)
[07:42] <|lostbyte|> Any one here using xgl and has upgraded to edgy ?
[07:42] <draik> How is edgy over dapper?
[07:42] <swanfl> to a point*
[07:42] <Ash-Fox> londondave you can play flv files in the vlc nighties (videolan.org has a repository you can use)
[07:43] <swanfl> just more upgraded programs
[07:43] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: Blacken any thanx, such is life :-)
[07:43] <swanfl> and a whole new init system that makes for faster booting
[07:43] <londondave> Ash-Fox, is that like compile from source
[07:43] <Ash-Fox> londondave, no.
[07:43] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: please consider https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade - i just put that page up. Give me feedback if you choose to follow my advices (on that page).
[07:44] <draik> How long is the entire dist-upgrade process?
[07:44] <Ash-Fox> draik, depends on your hardware, internet connection, filesystem type, the amount of stuff and use of your filesystem and so on
[07:44] <trappist> draik: that depends a LOT on things like how many packages you have installed, how fast your connection is and how fast your computer is
[07:44] <londondave> Ash-Fox, thanks I will check that out-I thing edgy is great, the official release is tomorrow  I think
[07:45] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-27-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 314/535GB, RAM: 766/3031MB, 102 proc's, 43.56min up
[07:45] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, thanks for the link :) will upgrade tommorow.
[07:45] <Ash-Fox> drat, links doesn't have ssl support
[07:46] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: you're welcome. Hope it works for you. And please give me feedback if you follow the guide.
[07:46] <draik> I will have to wait for the next weekend. Too many people upgrading today and tomorrow, busy weekend and new job on monday... I hope it all works out for me
[07:46] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, yes, i will. Just hoping my xgl setup will not conflict.
[07:47] <xsacha> "Latest Nvidia Beta Driver renders Xgl obsolete" -- im wondering how many years until a similar title appears with ATIs name? anyone? oh yes it will be called AMD then
[07:47] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: i don't know. I don't use xgl. But the upgrade is focusing on getting a full 'kubuntu-desktop' system updated.
[07:48] <|lostbyte|> ok
[07:48] <londondave> Ash-Fox, the edgy installed version is newer than the nightly-0.86
[07:48] <Ash-Fox> londondave, you'll have to force it then
[07:49] <Ash-Fox> I haven't got a edgy installation yet. So I can't help.
[07:49] <londondave> Ash-Fox, edgy is good and fast but I think there will be a lot of updates thursday when the official release is out
[07:50] <dylan_> would i mess things up terrible if i uninstalled my wireless card and reloaded the driver
[07:50] <sheft> hey, can i follow this guide to install WoW on Kubuntu?
[07:50] <poli_love> hey dudes
[07:50] <sheft> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[07:50] <poli_love> i need help
[07:50] <Ash-Fox> londondave, I doubt it.
[07:50] <robnyc> how do I refresh Grub since I just added Windows and would like to see if it can detect it and add it to grub ?
[07:50] <poli_love> how can i start my cam as webcam under kubuntu 6.06
[07:50] <Ash-Fox> londondave, kubuntu is in a deep freeze right now. There is no reason why the packages should change that dramatically
[07:50] <poli_love> i have drapper drake
[07:51] <draik> robnyc, Look up your GRUB...        /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:51] <Ash-Fox> Plus then I can help people upgrading since I've done it :P
[07:51] <londondave> Ash-Fox, I installed via dist-upgrade about 5 days ago to edgy RC1 and since then there must have been 30 updates
[07:51] <Ash-Fox> londondave, 30 updates is not a lot.
[07:52] <poli_love> dudes will someone orient me ?
[07:52] <|lostbyte|> Ash-Fox, whats the size of the download ?
[07:52] <trappist> poli_love: you'll have better luck with more specific questions
[07:52] <bmo> there, you're oriented
[07:52] <londondave> Ash-Fox, you must be more it's better than the 700 packages for the upgrade-took about 3 hours
[07:52] <poli_love>  OoOokaY i can try
[07:52] <Ash-Fox> |lostbyte|, note I had g++ a lot of different developers and so on. Was about 1gb
[07:52] <poli_love> see now .
[07:52] <londondave> patient that is
[07:53] <draik> bmo, don't you mean dis-oriented
[07:53] <bmo> orient=east
[07:53] <Ash-Fox> err developing tools
[07:53] <poli_love> i have vivicam ,and want to use it
[07:53] <poli_love> like a webcam
[07:53] <poli_love> not like a flash disk
[07:53] <poli_love> how can i do it?
[07:53] <poli_love> it don't detect it
[07:53] <draik> bmo, I got that, just saying... ehh, nvm
[07:53] <poli_love> do you neeed a model ?
[07:53] <bmo> hahaha, draik
[07:54] <|lostbyte|> Ash-Fox, wooo.. That would take a 7 hrs :- o
[07:54] <Ash-Fox> poli_love, ls /dev/video* ?
[07:54] <Ash-Fox> |lostbyte|, really? took me 30 minutes to grab
[07:54] <|lostbyte|> :)
[07:54] <bmo> draik: be warned, I am a fan of firesign theatre, meaning I have a screwy sensayoomah
[07:55] <poli_love> No it isn't listet like a dev video
[07:55] <draik> bmo, I have the same, I just try not to be toooooooo evil about it :p
[07:55] <bmo> :-P afk
[07:55] <|lostbyte|> poli_love, as you plugin your cam, do a dmesg and want does the last lines say ?
[07:56] <Ash-Fox> Okay, technically I should be on edgy now
[07:56] <poli_love> i don't know coz i am now instantly on another pc
[07:57] <LjL> please note that the Vivicam is not a webcam. from a quick googling, i'm tempted to believe you can't use it as a webcam in ubuntu
[07:57] <poli_love> ei
[07:58] <poli_love> vivicam work as webcam
[07:58] <poli_love> if you configure it from menu
[07:58] <poli_love> inside on the phone and than plug it in
[07:58] <poli_love> a second and i will get the last line
[07:58] <poli_love> from
[07:58] <dylan_> would ndiswrapper produce better results than the driver that kubuntu supplies
[07:59] <dude> can someone help me edit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[07:59] <mentor13> witam
[07:59] <poli_love>  <dude>
[07:59] <poli_love> make the next
[07:59] <eddy> hi i try to install gaim and the command make it not working.
[07:59] <poli_love> write
[08:00] <poli_love> vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:00] <eddy> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[08:00] <abattoir> dude: what needs to be done?
[08:00] <poli_love> as root
[08:00] <draik> eddy, have you tried konversation?
[08:00] <poli_love> and edit it
[08:00] <draik> it's already available in Kubuntu
[08:00] <dude> abattoir: i installed freespire
[08:00] <abattoir> eddy: did you run ./configure ?
[08:00] <poli_love> i --insert
[08:00] <LjL> dccb
[08:00] <poli_love> :q
[08:00] <poli_love> quit\
[08:00] <LjL> eddy: Gaim is available in the repositories
[08:00] <poli_love> you v gat it
[08:00] <abattoir> dude: ok, did it overwrite kubuntu's grub?
[08:00] <eddy> yes i have ru n./configure
[08:00] <xsacha> i always use 'a' to insert, it's closer
[08:01] <kolin> anyone help with an annoying mounting problem regarding my dvd rom?
[08:01] <eddy> but i show install beta 4
[08:01] <dude> abattoir: nope
[08:01] <dude> abattoir: same grub
[08:01] <eddy> whay is the make  not work
[08:01] <abattoir> dude: ok, could you pastebin menu.lst ?
[08:01] <LjL> eddy: and did configure succeed, or fail?
[08:01] <dude> abattoir: ok
[08:02] <abattoir> dude: and also, which partition is / for linspire, where is initrd.img and vmlinuz located there?
[08:02] <eddy> this is all ERROR
[08:02] <eddy> *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[08:02] <eddy> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[08:02] <eddy> *** exact error that occurred. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[08:02] <eddy> configure: error:
[08:02] <eddy> *** GLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GLib
[08:02] <eddy> *** development headers installed. The latest version of GLib is
[08:02] <eddy> *** always available at http://www.gtk.org/.
[08:02] <abattoir> eddy: please don't paste here
[08:03] <Jazon> hi everyone
[08:03] <abattoir> eddy: you are missing glib 2.0 as the error says, please install it
[08:03] <Jazon> after moving to edgy, can't burn dvd's at anything faster than 0.20x !!!!  any ideas how to fix?
[08:03] <Pupeno_> do you know any application to keep track of clients and related information (companies, people on the companies, related info, tickets, projects, files, etc) ?
[08:03] <abattoir> eddy: or look for a .deb package for ubuntu, if available
[08:03] <draik> eddy.   sudo apt-get install gaim
[08:03] <dude> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28284/
[08:03] <dude> abattoir: hhda
[08:04] <dude> abattoir: /dev/hda9
[08:04] <Pupeno_> Jazon: what program where you using ?
[08:06] <Jazon> was using k3b
[08:06] <Jazon> Pupeno_: trying nautilus now...
[08:06] <Jazon> dang!!! its calling for 2-5 hours as well!  its only 2 gig iso image....
[08:07] <B-Minus> i just installed firefox 2.0 using the script, but what happens if the reposetery has firefox 2.0 ??
[08:07] <Pupeno_> Jazon: k3b has an option to show the log of the commands when writting, try to see that, maybe there's some meaninful error.
[08:07] <Pupeno_> Does edgy include GNUcash 2.0 ?
[08:08] <Jazon> not a clue
[08:08] <abattoir> dude: you have Ubuntu in hda7 right?
[08:08] <LjL> !ingo gnucash edgy
[08:08] <LjL> !info gnucash edgy
[08:08] <abattoir> dude: and also the path to the kernel and initrd in linspire?
[08:08] <LjL> !edgy | Pupeno_
[08:08] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.1-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2014 kB, installed size 6388 kB
[08:08] <ubotu> Pupeno_: edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:08] <Pupeno_> good.
[08:09] <dude> abattoir: yes hda7
[08:09] <abattoir> dude: did you install a bootloader in the freespire partition, or chose not to install one at all?
[08:09] <dude> abattoir: yes ubuntu hda7
[08:10] <abattoir> dude: ok, where is vmlinuz and initrd in the freespire partition?
[08:10] <dude> abattoir: what do u min bootloader? the write to MBR option?
[08:10] <abattoir> dude: if you chose write to mbr, then it'd have overwritten the current ubuntu one
[08:11] <draik> Ash-Fox, So? Are you edgy now???
[08:11] <dude> abattoir: if it writes on the current bootloader, what will happen to other OS
[08:11] <dude> abattoir: if it writes on the current bootloader, what will happen to the other OS
[08:12] <abattoir> dude: nothing will happen to the os, it's just that you'll have to make entries in the bootloader for the old os if it doesn't detect it automatically
[08:12] <Ash-Fox> draik, yes.
[08:12] <abattoir> dude: for example, when you installed ubuntu, it detected your Windows partition and made an entry for it...
[08:13] <draik> Ash-Fox: So, is there a better loading time? Everything stable?
[08:13] <dude> abattoir: so you mean to say, it will not detect ubuntu and windows?
[08:13] <lainproliant> hello :)
[08:13] <whiz2> I'm trying to share a printer in Kubuntu using Samba to share with Windows XP Pro, Windows 98, and another Kubuntu PC. Any time I try to export drivers, Linux tells me there are some missing drivers. Any time I try to install the printer in one of the other computers, I get a message stating that drivers are not available on the originating PC, and install fails. How do I share my printer from Kubuntu using Samba?
[08:14] <abattoir> dude: no, i'm not familiar w/ how the linspire installation process works, i'd expect it to detect it...
[08:14] <draik> whiz2, when I was sharing my printer on this kubuntu desktop to a winxp laptop, I didn't have to use Samba
[08:14] <lainproliant> I am running Kubuntu on a laptop with ATI Rage Pro
[08:14] <trappist> whiz2: it's easier just to download and install the drivers on the windows boxes from the manufacturer's website - sharing out the drivers means sharing out *windows* drivers, which can be complicated
[08:15] <lainproliant> Is there any way that i can enable stretched text mode displays?
[08:15] <dude> abattoir: so i should write to mbr?
[08:15] <lainproliant> there used to be a setting that i could flip in a windoze driver
[08:15] <whiz2> In XP, I tried installing the drivers that come with XP for that printer, and ended up printing nothing but junk to the printer
[08:15] <Ash-Fox> draik, there is a weird bug.
[08:15] <draik> what weird bug Ash-Fox
[08:15] <draik> ?
[08:16] <Ash-Fox> draik, my xserver displays things sort of distorted when the system starts, like partially 256 colors. If I switch by doing ctrl + alt + f1 and back by doing ctrl + alt + f7, that fixes it. I doubt this is a common problem.
[08:16] <abattoir> dude: it's your call really, if you write to mbr, and it makes entries for ubuntu/windows, well and good, if it doesn't, you can add entries manually, if you install the bootloader in the / partition, you can chainload it
[08:16] <Ash-Fox> dpkg-reconfigure doesn't fix it either.
[08:16] <draik> Ash-Fox: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:16] <abattoir> dude: have you already installed it or not?
[08:17] <Ash-Fox> draik, doesn't fix it.
[08:17] <whiz2> Windows simply can't communicate with the printer
[08:17] <draik> hmmm
[08:17] <draik> that's all I would know to do
[08:17] <draik> other than to check the driver being used
[08:17] <lainproliant> hmm
[08:17] <dude> abattoir: i've already installed, but its icluded in the bootloader
[08:18] <dude> abattoir: i've already installed, but its not included in the bootloader
[08:18] <abattoir> dude: ok, go to /dev/hda9/boot in konqueror
[08:18] <abattoir> sorry, /media/hda9/boot
[08:18] <dude> abattoir: its not mounted
[08:18] <abattoir> dude: ok, then mount it
[08:18] <draik> Ash-Fox: is your video supported in edgy?
[08:19] <Ash-Fox> It was supported in dapper.
[08:19] <Ash-Fox> It's the default ATi driver.
[08:19] <Ash-Fox> the one that comes with xorg
[08:19] <jmamakos> hi i have problem with mpg video i cant play in ubuntu wat i mast douit?? thengs
[08:19] <petter_> yo everyone
[08:19] <draik> Doesn't ATi have issues in some areas with kubuntu?
[08:19] <abattoir> jmamakos: do you have the necessary codecs installed?
[08:19] <Ash-Fox> This isn't the proprietory ati driver.
[08:19] <petter_> my Ktorrent crached... ;(
[08:19] <jmamakos> no i dont
[08:20] <dude> abattoir: mount: can't find /dev/hda9 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:20] <petter_> is it known for doing that?
[08:20] <abattoir> !codecs > jmamakos
[08:20] <abattoir> jmamakos: follow the first link
[08:20] <draik> petter_ do you have the latest kTorrent?
[08:20] <Ash-Fox> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b <- ... wait.. don't tell me this is xgl
[08:20] <petter_> sure
[08:20] <petter_> draik: sure
[08:20] <abattoir> dude: you'd have to add it, or mount manually w/ options
[08:20] <petter_> draik: I removed it and installed bittornado
[08:21] <draik> Ash-Fox: I don't think that's regarding XGL
[08:21] <draik> petter_ I haven't had any issues with kTorrent
[08:21] <draik> Just making sure that it's updated
[08:21] <petter_> draik: alright
[08:21] <lainproliant> hmm
[08:21] <petter_> draik: are you using the most recent release?
[08:21] <draik> Ash-Fox: Are you running XGL?
[08:21] <draik> petter_: Yes I am
[08:21] <Ash-Fox> I don't believe I set it up
[08:21] <lainproliant> Is there any way that i can change the fact that my text mode display is a bit compressed when exiting xserver?
[08:22] <Ash-Fox> I see the composite extension is loaded though.
[08:22] <lainproliant> Compaq Armada M300, ATI Rage Pro
[08:22] <petter_> draik: ok thanks a lot I'll try it
[08:22] <draik> petter_: np, I hope it works for you
[08:22] <lainproliant> it shows up tiny in the middle of the screen
[08:23] <trappist> lainproliant: you might try booting with the vga=normal kernel option.  it's probably a framebuffer issue.
[08:23] <lainproliant> hmm
[08:23] <lainproliant> i will try that
[08:23] <lainproliant> i had to remove the splash option because framebuffer wasn't supported at all
[08:23] <draik> petter_: My KTorrent is 2.0.3
[08:23] <lainproliant> at least the splash screen broke it
[08:23] <lainproliant> brb
[08:24] <draik> Ash-Fox: Download the cd? Why? I thought you had it all now
[08:24] <draik> Isn't the CD available now?
[08:24] <Ash-Fox> draik, because a clean install will help me determine if the problem was with the upgrade.
[08:25] <draik> oic
[08:25] <Ash-Fox> I'll have my old install backed up. so I can poke around at it if that's the case.
[08:26] <Ash-Fox> draik, and the RC cd is available from what I can see on the mirrors. not the release.
[08:27] <draik> When will the actual CD be available for download? The final 6.10 I mean
[08:27] <Ash-Fox> Tomorow.
[08:27] <draik> perfect... I hope to get ahold of that before I leave
[08:27] <lainproliant> back :)
[08:27] <lainproliant> yeah i probably removed my vga=normal option when trying to get the framebuffer to work
[08:28] <lainproliant> thank you very much trappist
[08:28] <petter_> draik: many thanks, sorry I was away typing on a close reading :)
[08:28] <draik> petter_: it's ok. Did a new KTorrent work?
[08:29] <trappist> lainproliant: worked? awesome
[08:29] <lainproliant> well haven't tried it
[08:29] <lainproliant> i am going to put it in my grub conf
[08:29] <petter_> draik: haven't downloaded it yet, got an essay due for tomorrow
[08:29] <petter_> ;)
[08:29] <lainproliant> i left because i'm in class and didn't want to miss a lecture ^_^
[08:30] <lainproliant> but i will log back in once i test it and let you know if it worked or not
[08:30] <draik> petter_: type away
[08:31] <kolin> if i mount a dvd in my dvdrom, and i unmount it from the desktop by right clicking.  should that work?
[08:31] <petter_> draik: sorry, haven't chatted for a while...
[08:31] <kolin> says i am not the root
[08:31] <lainproliant> sudo
[08:31] <lainproliant> sudo *command*
[08:31] <kolin> and something about fstab
[08:31] <lainproliant> and then enter your root password
[08:31] <walrussse> hello everybody
[08:31] <lainproliant> lol soriries
[08:32] <lainproliant> trying to jump in from doing work probably not in context lol
[08:32] <dude> abattoir: ok, its mounted
[08:32] <draik> Good luck everyone with your edgy upgrades and I will return when I can!
[08:32] <abattoir> dude: ok, go to /boot in that partition...
[08:32] <kolin> "unmount /mnt/cdrom is not in fstab and you are not root"
[08:33] <abattoir> dude: if possible please pastebin ls -l from that partition
[08:33] <trappist> kolin: unmount is spelled "umount" and you probably want /media/cdrom0
[08:33] <kolin> should that be where i mounted it
[08:33] <fdoving> kolin: how did you mount this device?
[08:33] <kolin> i am still kind of new at this
[08:33] <kolin> i made a dir in mnt called cdrom
[08:33] <walrussse> I'm using Kubuntu Edgy actually. I'm experiencing a problem I only see in OpenOffice.org. All the "r" letters (lower case) seem to have a ghost vertical line on their right.
[08:33] <kolin> and typed "mount /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom
[08:33] <fdoving> kolin: and then?
[08:33] <kolin> "
[08:34] <fdoving> ok.
[08:34] <kolin> then it said i could explore it and was able to
[08:34] <lainproliant> bbs
[08:34] <fdoving> kolin: 'umount -l /dev/hda'
[08:34] <fdoving> kolin: err.. forgot sudo 'sudo umount -l /dev/hda'
[08:34] <dude> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28289/
[08:35] <kolin> yeah
[08:35] <kolin> but why won't it let me umount it from the desktop?
[08:35] <kolin> just curious
[08:35] <kolin> like i right clikc on it and go to mount
[08:36] <walrussse> only the "r" seem to be affected, and only OpenOffice seems to have this trouble. I thought of reporting that bug on launchpad, but I tought that could affect another app. Any ideas ?
[08:36] <kolin> it says "mount: only root can mount /dev/hda on /media/cdrom
[08:37] <kolin> is there anyway that i can get it to automatically mount it when i put it in the drive?
[08:37] <abattoir> dude: ok, so you are sure that the ubuntu grub is being used?
[08:38] <azzco> Hi guys I'm having a wee bit problem installing edgy over here...
[08:38] <dude> abattoir: yes
[08:39] <kolin> is there anyway that i can get it to automatically mount it when i put it in the drive?
[08:40] <azzco> Okay here's my problem. I've got my partitions a bit weirdle configured. my home is in sda2 my previsu kubuntu is in sda4 I wish to keep that one. swap is on sda3 for some reason. I can't crate a new partition for egy...
[08:40] <abattoir> dude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28294/ should be it
[08:41] <abattoir> dude: backup your old menu.lst and use this
[08:41] <abattoir> dude: should give you an entry for freespire after the ubuntu ones
[08:41] <B-Minus> is there some command to use when i want to clean up my system (like broken links, files that are never used etc)
[08:43] <dude> abattoir: sudo kate right?
[08:43] <trappist> dude: kdesu instead of sudo, when you run kde apps
[08:43] <azzco> I'm in serius need of help here...
[08:43] <abattoir> dude: kdesu
[08:44] <azzco> dude Alt+F2 "kdesu kate"
[08:44] <dude> abattoir: kdesu menu.lst?
[08:44] <KoluCCi> dude: jdesu kate menu.lst
[08:44] <KoluCCi> -j+k*
[08:44] <abattoir> dude: nope, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:45] <B-Minus> is there some command to use when i want to clean up my system (like broken links, files that are never used etc)
[08:45] <abattoir> dude: i meant kdesu instead of kate, but stopped short of writing the entire command as trappist had already pointed out
[08:46] <trappist> abattoir: actually kdesu is a poor replacement for kate ;)
[08:46] <abattoir> oops, meant sudo :P
[08:46] <bernd_> hallo
[08:46] <azzco> B-Minus: Could you be a bit more specific?
[08:47] <bernd_> kann mir jemand bei der fstab helfen?
[08:47] <trappist> !de
[08:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:47] <bernd_> ok
[08:48] <B-Minus> azzco: in gentoo you have upgrade-world or something
[08:48] <B-Minus> i mean something like that
[08:51] <azzco> How come gparted is alot easier to handle then qtparted?
[08:51] <azzco> I was not able to create a new partition from unallocated space in qtparted then I installed gparted and it worked just like that.
[08:52] <azzco> B-Minus: I don't know a program that works like that. =/
[08:53] <B-Minus> hmm :s
[08:53] <B-Minus> cause
[08:53] <B-Minus> i installed some programs with adept and deleted them again but there are always some files left behind
[08:54] <azzco> Hmm yeah. I try to stick to installing via terminal with aptitude. apt-get (wich I think adept uses) doesn't really delete all files
[08:55] <B-Minus> ic
[08:55] <B-Minus> well its too late for me :)
[08:55] <azzco> Aptitude keeps track on what files the programs installed with it needs and therefore deletes ones that only used by a program that is being uninstalled. I'm not to sure about how true this is but look it up ;)
[08:55] <azzco> okay B-Minus but check on aptitude tommorow.
[08:57] <B-Minus> ok im gonna read the manpage now
[08:57] <blooregard> Is anyone in here using LVM on a SCSI RAID array?
[08:58] <B-Minus> what about automatix
[08:58] <B-Minus> i heard a lot about that
[08:58] <B-Minus> but isnt that just the same as adept or aptitude
[09:00] <blooregard> I can't set up LVM during install for some reason, but creating a volume group destroys the partition.
[09:00] <Rancid> so hypothetically, if someone was stupid enough to start a apt-get install libfam is there a way to undo that?
[09:00] <azzco> B-Minus: you still there?
[09:00] <B-Minus> ye
[09:01] <Rancid> :(
[09:01] <azzco> Automatix is justa script that installs a couple of the most wanted programs. A bit like adept. it get's the repositorys so that you wont have to touch any files yourself (well maybe to install automatix) but after that it installs things for you restricted things that is ;)
[09:02] <xsacha> sudo linux32 wine notepad stuff.txt
[09:02] <B-Minus> ic
[09:02] <g00lan> ik have a .zip file. how do i extract it?
[09:02] <dhq> hey its 12 here when is edgy gonna be out
[09:02] <azzco> B-Minus: for eample it installs MP3 support I think and flash
[09:02] <LjL> !automatix | B-Minus, azzco
[09:02] <ubotu> B-Minus, azzco: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[09:02] <B-Minus> hmm
[09:03] <Rancid> :(
[09:03] <B-Minus> i already have flash and mp3 :p
[09:03] <Rancid> so can anyone help with the libfam prob?
[09:03] <azzco> Well check it out anyways ;)
[09:03] <B-Minus> ok
[09:03] <dhq> fdoving: when is edgy gonna be out
[09:03] <aztun> I just installed ksim
[09:04] <g00lan> any who know howto extract zipfiles?
[09:04] <aztun> http://ksim.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=description.php
[09:04] <aztun> and have no binary
[09:04] <aztun> sudo updatedb && locate ksim | grep bin
[09:04] <fdoving> dhq: to morrow according to the plan.
[09:04] <aztun> gets nothing
[09:04] <fdoving> dhq: don't know any details about what time/timezone.
[09:05] <aztun> g00lan: use ark on X or unzip in console
[09:05] <Rancid> :/
[09:05] <g00lan> aztun,  thx:)
[09:05] <dhq> fdoving: well it like half past 12 am here 26th morning
[09:05] <dhq> !shcedule
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shcedule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <dhq> !edgy
[09:05] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> dhq, have patience.
[09:05] <dhq> !schedule
[09:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:06] <|lostbyte|> dhq, keep visiting, kubuntu.com
[09:06] <dhq> |lostbyte|: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:06] <jeansch> hi, i've problem with kpilot, it doesn't sync the calendar, is anybody using it successfully ?
[09:06] <B-Minus> there is 1 program left for me to install, but it aint gonna be easy ;( lotus notes 7
[09:07] <SHRIKEE> ...
[09:07] <SHRIKEE> synchrozation programs for usb sticks, anyone?
[09:08] <Qaldune> hi all
[09:08] <SHRIKEE> lo
[09:08] <Qaldune> does anyone know how to play .m4p files without drm in amarok??
[09:08] <whiz2> using another Linux PC, I can install the linux drivers on the remote PC, but when I try to send a job to the printer, it doesn't even appear in the job qeue for the printer on it's local machine... there is a miscommunication somewhere in the line.
[09:09] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: Mine work
[09:09] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: what do you mean
[09:09] <SHRIKEE> well
[09:09] <SHRIKEE> i have a usb stick on which i put my websites, php code and such
[09:09] <SHRIKEE> is there a program to synch it with a folder on the pc?
[09:10] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: hi, which version you have ?
[09:10] <Rancid> i ran apt-get install libfam0 .. .my kde is b0rked now, i re-installed the packages it removed, but how do i get it backup and running?
[09:10] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: rsync will sync folders
[09:10] <SHRIKEE> *takes a look*
[09:11] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: 4.6.0
[09:11] <SHRIKEE> i find that linux programs get stuck rather easy and often :(
[09:12] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: what do you mean
[09:12] <SHRIKEE> well exactly as i say it
[09:13] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: what gets stuck?
[09:13] <SHRIKEE> i open adept and half of the time it takes either ages to load or it wont load at all or it gets stuck :9
[09:13] <SHRIKEE> as in non-responding
[09:13] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: ok, i have the same, but when i sync it tell about nothing to sync, i've check the file on which it look, and is the good one, my calendar is on it
[09:13] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: run adept from konsole and look for errors, if there are any then pastebin them
[09:13] <SHRIKEE> i dont see any errors
[09:14] <SHRIKEE> i think its just unstable
[09:14] <SHRIKEE> alot of prorgams are
[09:15] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: what is the problem, I didnt fully understand that
[09:15] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: what have you tried to do that could have messed things up
[09:15] <SHRIKEE> uh in installed kubuntu
[09:15] <SHRIKEE> thats about it ;)
[09:15] <SHRIKEE> no wild hacks, patches or anything
[09:15] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: have you updated since the install
[09:15] <SHRIKEE> yea
[09:16] <SHRIKEE> full upgrade and some random packages installed with it
[09:16] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: have you changed sources.list
[09:16] <SHRIKEE> added the universe rep
[09:16] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: what do you mean full upgrade, did you upgrade to edgy?
[09:16] <SHRIKEE> dapper
[09:16] <SHRIKEE> no just apt-get upgrade
[09:17] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: what happens to the programs that makes you think they are unstable
[09:17] <SHRIKEE> shrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[09:17] <SHRIKEE> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:17] <SHRIKEE> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[09:17] <SHRIKEE> grm
[09:18] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: do you have adept open
[09:18] <SHRIKEE> nope it crashed a minute ago
[09:18] <SHRIKEE> im getting that ever  since
[09:19] <SHRIKEE> well some programs, like amarok, kmail, kontact and adept justrandom hang or crash
[09:19] <SHRIKEE> for no apparent reason :(
[09:20] <bambix> hi all
[09:20] <SHRIKEE> hi
[09:20] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: are you in konversarion
[09:20] <SHRIKEE> yes
[09:21] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: click help, then click ABout KDE
[09:21] <Qaldune> SHRIKEE as you can see ubuntu is not as easy and nice-working as they told you
[09:21] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: what version of KDE are you using
[09:21] <SHRIKEE> haha it takes some skill, but thats no problem
[09:21] <SHRIKEE> 3.5.2
[09:21] <SHRIKEE> i have kubuntu 6.06
[09:21] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: there is a newer version of KDE out
[09:21] <SHRIKEE> is it in the rep, yet?
[09:22] <TehUni> 3.5.5 is in the kde repos
[09:22] <SHRIKEE> ah
[09:22] <SHRIKEE> and what advantage does that give me?
[09:22] <TehUni> newer kde :P
[09:22] <SHRIKEE> if i upgrade, i mean
[09:22] <SHRIKEE> :)
[09:22] <bambix> can someone help me please? I've lag in most of kubuntu while i shouldn't already upgraded the kernel to linux-686 but having lot's of trouble getting the correct video driver to work
[09:22] <andhy> SHRIKEE: nothing at all
[09:22] <SHRIKEE> lol
[09:23] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: it dosn't sync the cal (well, one time, it tooked the cal from the palm, and remove from it), and now, it dosn't sync any event with the palm, even if i choose a PC to Palm copy mode
[09:23] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: try upgrading KDE, it sounds like thats were your problems are
[09:23] <SHRIKEE> maybe yes,
[09:23] <SHRIKEE> ill check it out :)
[09:23] <SHRIKEE> jeansch, see if your synching app has rights to overwrite the file
[09:24] <bambix> anybody?
[09:24] <SHRIKEE> brb
[09:24] <BonBonTheJon> bambix: can you rephrase
[09:24] <picarito> weed
[09:24] <bambix> ok
[09:24] <bambix> i'll ask more direct questions
[09:24] <magical_trevsky> can anyone tell me the best way to go from dapper -> edgy? most of the guides i have seen recommend using update-manager, which does not exist on my system.. is there a different way for kubuntu?
[09:24] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: did you run the configuration wizard?
[09:25] <bambix> how do i see what drivers/modules are being used for my graphics card
[09:25] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: hum, i think the classic setup only
[09:25] <andhy> magical_trevsky: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate
[09:25] <dvayanu> i have a hdd formated and managed by freebsd, now in an external case connected via usb. can i mount it under linux?
[09:25] <andhy> magical_trevsky: kubuntu section
[09:25] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: did you tell it to sync with kontact
[09:26] <BonBonTheJon> dvayanu: yes
[09:26] <dvayanu> bonbon: filesystem type?
[09:26] <magical_trevsky> andhy, thanks :)
[09:26] <dvayanu> ufs?
[09:26] <BonBonTheJon> dvayanu: what is it formatted as?
[09:26] <dvayanu> default... probably ufs
[09:26] <BonBonTheJon> dvayanu: I don't know about UFS
[09:27] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: well, i rerun the whole kpilot config, i'll tell you, now i'm not sure
[09:27] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: make sure you pick kontact and not evolution
[09:27] <bambix> how do i see what drivers/modules are being used for my graphics card
[09:28] <BonBonTheJon> bambix: you need to look in the xorg file
[09:28] <dvayanu> bonbon: to mount something readonly, -o ro?
[09:28] <ohmbr> hi, how do i change the menu for all users?
[09:28] <BonBonTheJon> !mount
[09:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:28] <SHRIKEE> i just got apt-get to update its lists
[09:28] <SHRIKEE> it tells me this:
[09:28] <ohmbr> I want to add a program...
[09:28] <SHRIKEE> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[09:28] <SHRIKEE> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[09:29] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: you need to comment those lines out
[09:29] <SHRIKEE> ah hmm
[09:29] <SHRIKEE> they dont exist anymore?
[09:29] <BonBonTheJon> dvayanu: I don't know, you can look it up
[09:29] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: oh, that is for breezy, you are using dapper
[09:30] <honix> hi! can i format a fat partition and use it like /home??
[09:30] <BonBonTheJon> ohmbr: right click on the K menu
[09:30] <Qaldune> you can honix
[09:30] <shindmar> salve, ho un serio problema con kubuntu
[09:30] <shindmar> ahh english
[09:30] <BonBonTheJon> honix: you mean move /home to that partition?
[09:30] <honix> no
[09:30] <Qaldune> i think he means use a fat partition as /home
[09:30] <ohmbr> BonBonTheJon: ok, but just my menu changed...
[09:30] <Qaldune> honix take a look at /etc/mtab
[09:30] <BonBonTheJon> ohmbr: dunno then
[09:31] <SHRIKEE> ok i diabled it
[09:31] <BonBonTheJon> SHRIKEE: now try again
[09:31] <shindmar> there is someone that can help me because the command "sudo apt-get update" gives me always errors and i can't update my OS
[09:31] <SHRIKEE> it now updates fine
[09:31] <SHRIKEE> but
[09:31] <ohmbr> BonBonTheJon: sorry... but how do i do that?
[09:31] <SHRIKEE> that was not the issue i meant earlier... :)
[09:31] <shindmar> my source list is all ok
[09:31] <SHRIKEE> i just noticed that
[09:31] <honix> when i install ubuntu (tomorrrow), i have /home in other ext3 now but i want have /home in fat but i dont know because fat cannot manage permissions
[09:31] <BonBonTheJon> ohmbr: I don't know how to change it for others
[09:31] <thg2oo6> hi 2 all
[09:32] <ohmbr> ok..
[09:32] <shindmar> hi, help!!
[09:32] <ohmbr> tks... any way...
[09:32] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: can you pastebin the errors
[09:32] <Qaldune> i guess /home/<user> wouldn't need permissions
[09:32] <shindmar> ok, here in publicchat?
[09:32] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin | shindmar
[09:32] <ubotu> shindmar: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:32] <ohmbr> does somebody knows how to add a program at menu to all users?
[09:32] <honix> then... if i use a fat like /home i wont have any problem?
[09:33] <shindmar> bonbonthejon, simply the connection goes to timeout
[09:33] <Qaldune> i don't think so
[09:33] <Qaldune> but i've never do something like that
[09:33] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: pastebin your sources.list
[09:34] <Qaldune> change the /home entry in /etc/mtab
[09:34] <BonBonTheJon> honix: that would be a hard process
[09:34] <BonBonTheJon> honix: you can't just change /home
[09:34] <shindmar> i can navigate in internet, and message in kopete and irc, but i can't download packets because the connection falls to timeout
[09:34] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: all the sources or just some
[09:35] <shindmar> i have a ethernet router ut300r2u
[09:35] <shindmar> sources are all ok, because a friend of mine uses them and all is ok on his pc
[09:35] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: are you behind a proxy?
[09:35] <shindmar> nope
[09:35] <SHRIKEE> or a restrictive firewall, shindmar
[09:36] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: can you ping the sources
[09:36] <shindmar> i' m a novell on linux.. can u tell me how?
[09:36] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: any news?
[09:36] <Ash-Fox> shindmar, #SuSE
[09:36] <SHRIKEE> from a console : ping <target>
[09:36] <honix> i refer i have a fat and when i install ubuntu, i select /home... i would like to know if i will have no problems later... i try explain me but i dont write very well
[09:37] <shindmar> i don't have restrictive firewall, only router, but if i don't know the ports that kubuntu uses for apt how can i forward them?
[09:37] <BonBonTheJon> Ash-Fox: I think he meant he's a noob, not Novell
[09:37] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: it downloads on 80
[09:37] <Ash-Fox> BonBonTheJon, that's quite a typo really..
[09:37] <shindmar> already forwarded
[09:37] <LjL> shindmar, APT only needs outbound connections. you don't need to forward ports
[09:37] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: no ports need to be opened
[09:37] <SHRIKEE> you dont need to forward ports i think, i use a router and didnt need to either
[09:37] <Qaldune> honix we've got you
[09:37] <BonBonTheJon> Ash-Fox: I think he mean novel as in novelty, not Novell
[09:38] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: yes, but no
[09:38] <SHRIKEE> more as in unexperienced i think BonBonTheJon
[09:38] <SHRIKEE> ;)
[09:38] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: it does't copy the cal
[09:38] <Ash-Fox> !it
[09:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:38] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: i've reinstalled with the wizard
[09:39] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: hmm, which hardware are you using
[09:39] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: TX
[09:39] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: me too, what port do you have it set for
[09:39] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: the TX has a known timing problem
[09:39] <shindmar> BonBon unknown host
[09:40] <SHRIKEE> shindmar: do you see any errors?
[09:40] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: so you can't ping them, well that is weird
[09:40] <shindmar> no, only i can't ping them
[09:40] <kristyon> someone remind me how I change channnels please?
[09:40] <BonBonTheJon> kristyon: do /join channel
[09:40] <SHRIKEE> kristyon: /join #channel
[09:40] <shindmar> i've a ppoa connection
[09:40] <shindmar> *pppoa
[09:40] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: i sync throug network
[09:41] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: ppp over bluetooth or wifi
[09:41] <jeansch> same result
[09:41] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: I do wireless syncing
[09:41] <excitatory> i am aware of and are using several of the 'firefox hacks' that integrate it into the kde environment.  however, one feature is missing.. the ability to 'open' downloaded files directly from the Downloads dialog window..  does anyone have a solution to this?
[09:41] <kristyon> thanks
[09:41] <bambix> how do i see hwat kernel modules are being loaded?
[09:42] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: is there a way to have more detailled logs ?
[09:42] <shindmar> BONBON, i can ping google and it responds
[09:42] <BonBonTheJon> bambix: modprobe -l
[09:42] <bambix> thnx
[09:42] <kristyon> how do i get identified to join a channel?
[09:42] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: maybe try running it from konsole and look at the output
[09:43] <jeansch> kristyon: register with the nickserv
[09:43] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: what country are you in? maybe make a new sources.list
[09:43] <shindmar> italy
[09:43] <SHRIKEE> shindmar, you said your friend can download from those repositoriesm right? is he on the same router as you?
[09:43] <[GuS] > guys... where the color scheme of KDE is saved?
[09:43] <kristyon> aha. where do i do that?
[09:43] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: ok, i'll check, do yuo have too handing problems ?
[09:43] <honix> someone knows if i will have some fail using /home in FAT??
[09:43] <jeansch> kristyon: /msg nickserv help
[09:43] <shindmar> he doesn't have my same router, but he can download from those repositories right
[09:44] <SHRIKEE> hmm, k
[09:44] <fdoving> honix: yes, most things will fail. i stronly recommend not to.
[09:44] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: if you set the port to 'net:any' you can sync wirelessly fine
[09:44] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: yes, the others things works well, but the calendar don't want
[09:44] <honix> ok thak you
[09:45] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: I sometimes have some problems if I change an item on both ends, but for most of the time it works fine
[09:45] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: of course, kpilot freezes after a single sync, but it works until then
[09:46] <jeansch> BonBonTheJon: you're lucky :), well, i have to go, good night, and thanks
[09:46] <BonBonTheJon> jeansch: good luck
[09:46] <kepia> anyone with an epia board and openchrome drivers installed?!? need help!!!
[09:46] <[GuS] > well.. i've found it in /home/gustavo/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes
[09:47] <bambix> BonBonTheJon when i run modprobe -l  are all of the modules listed loaded at bootup?
[09:47] <BonBonTheJon> bambix: i believe so
[09:47] <bambix> anyway to rem some of them out?
[09:47] <bambix> that's a big list
[09:48] <BonBonTheJon> bambix: I don't know about that. Aren't you just looking for the video driver
[09:48] <bambix> that too, the agp.o one but it's not being loaded.
[09:48] <BonBonTheJon> bambix: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that
[09:49] <bambix> no that's the ati driver
[09:49] <bambix> but i need to enable agp too
[09:49] <bambix> apparantly
[09:50] <shindmar> someone remember me?
[09:50] <bambix> sorry shindmar new here myself
[09:50] <bambix> but hi
[09:50] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: pastebin the sources.list
[09:50] <shindmar> ok
[09:52] <shindmar> PASTED
[09:52] <excitatory> so i'm compiling an app, and the configure script needs gtk+ (obviously the dev package).. but i did an aptitude search and i only see two gtk+ packages, and they're for directfb.. the rest are gtk1 or gtk2 related.. is gtk+ equivalent to something.. or what package should i install?
[09:52] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: address?
[09:52] <shindmar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28305/
[09:53] <ubuntu__> hi. My keyboard is freezing after kubuntu 6.10 is started from live CD. So, I can-t enter data in the installation wizard. Any solutuion_
[09:53] <petter_> yo
[09:54] <pedro> hello ppl
[09:54] <BonBonTheJon> hi
[09:54] <pedro> anyone knows if the bug with acpi_sbs module is corrected in any newer kernel build?
[09:54] <shindmar> it isn't an official list, but it works right, if i copy the official list nothing will change, already tried
[09:55] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: evidently it isnt working right
[09:55] <shindmar> also the official list don't work right?
[09:55] <pedro> that one of repeating and dropping keyboard characters
[09:56] <shindmar> but on other pc that list work right, only on my pc it doesn't work
[09:56] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: whats different betweeen the two
[09:56] <shindmar> nothing, the errors are always the same: connection timeout
[09:57] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: whats different hardware, connection wise
[09:57] <shindmar> both have ethernet, but different routers, i don't know his router
[09:58] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: same connection, ISP?
[09:58] <shindmar> i have tiscali, but don't know his isp pheraps alice
[09:59] <shindmar> in resolv.conf i have only 1 nameserver: <IP_ADDRESS>, it maybe depends from it?
[10:00] <toad__> Hey everyone
[10:00] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: no, that shouldn't be it. You can go to oter websites
[10:00] <BonBonTheJon> hi toad__
[10:00] <rdrg> Hy, how can I add some services at the Kubuntu 6.10 startup?
[10:01] <toad__> I got a question for ya'll.  How can i disable the sudo prompt on things like changing wifi settings?
[10:01] <BonBonTheJon> rdrg: what do you mean "services"?
[10:01] <shindmar> sig, i don't know what i can do... is since 3 days that i try to fix this error
[10:01] <BonBonTheJon> toad__: sudo is to keep your system secure, you can install knetworkmanager
[10:02] <rdrg> I'd like to start superkaramba automaticaly, and the NumLock on my keyboard also...
[10:02] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: can you go into konsole and do "export http_proxy=", then try to update
[10:03] <BonBonTheJon> rdrg: in the system settings you can have stuff run at start
[10:03] <shindmar> sorry, i don't understand
[10:03] <toad__> I use Kwifimanager but when i go to load my config it asks for my password.  Is there a way to disable it for just kwifi?
[10:04] <BonBonTheJon> toad__: not that I know of
[10:04] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: open konsole
[10:04] <toad__> ok, thanks
[10:04] <shindmar> done
[10:04] <Dr_willis> thats the kwallet password i think
[10:04] <root> abattoir: :(
[10:04] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: do "export http_proxy="
[10:04] <dude> abattoir: :(
[10:04] <rdrg> BonBonTejon: I don't have a thing like this in my System settings
[10:04] <abattoir> dude: what happened?
[10:05] <dude> abattoir: errors
[10:05] <picarito> kubuntu edgy includes beryl / glx ?
[10:05] <abattoir> dude: like what?
[10:05] <shindmar> copied and pasted
[10:05] <shindmar> and done
[10:05] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: there should be no output
[10:05] <shindmar> no
[10:05] <shindmar> no output
[10:05] <Dr_willis> picarito,  if it does - its not  used by default
[10:05] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: now run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the output so I can see also
[10:06] <dude> abattoir: actually it runs but when i choose, ubuntu, there are some errors, i cant start x
[10:06] <abattoir> dude: i didn't touch anything related to ubuntu
[10:06] <abattoir> dude: is there something else that you did?
[10:06] <dude> abattoir: do you still have the copy of my menu.lst?
[10:06] <zdodge> hi
[10:06] <abattoir> dude: you didn't back it up? like i asked you to?
[10:07] <dude> abattoir: nothing, just copy paste
[10:07] <sorush20> hi are there anyporgrams out there that can draw graphs just like a graph papre version of it.. openoffice is not that great..
[10:07] <picarito> can i install a ubuntu version of 32 bits in a amd64 box (some apps are not ready yet for 64bits)
[10:07] <Michael_Corvin> u can
[10:07] <dude> abattoir: i saved on the conqueror, but i cant open it
[10:07] <Michael_Corvin> but there can be random crashes
[10:07] <BonBonTheJon> rdrg: its under KDE components, autostart
[10:07] <abattoir> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28284/
[10:07] <Michael_Corvin>  the problem is the amd 64 cpu really
[10:07] <abattoir> dude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Release
[10:08] <picarito> but, could "coexist" 32/64 ubuntu into a diferent partitions  (sharing /home i.e.)
[10:08] <abattoir> dude: sorry, the first link
[10:08] <JosefK> picarito: I've never seen any crashes caused by running an i686 OS on an amd64 chip
[10:08] <Michael_Corvin> i don't think so
[10:08] <Michael_Corvin> well i have really
[10:08] <JosefK> picarito: in most cases that would work, you could also build yourself a 32-bit chroot
[10:08] <zdodge> i tested the kubuntu 6.10 RC live cd... but on my dell inspiron the complete keyboard just didnt worked... when i pressed the space it printed 'd's on and on all the time... any1 an idea if this will be fixed in the final?
[10:08] <Michael_Corvin> mainly while encoding/decoding video /audio
[10:08] <cryptonic> can someone tell me wether its possible to change a 64bit build of ubuntu into a 32bit build, as in by default 32bit not extra 32bit libraries
[10:08] <cryptonic> ?
[10:08] <JosefK> picarito: unwise to share any path other than /home though (and you'd need to keep versions in sync)
[10:08] <Michael_Corvin> ubuntu has an amd 64 kernel
[10:09] <LjL> cryptonic: it is, by reinstalling it :)
[10:09] <BonBonTheJon> zdodge: did you pick the right keyboard
[10:09] <Michael_Corvin> and the live cd installs it by default
[10:09] <shindmar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28307/
[10:09] <shindmar> BONBON this is the address
[10:09] <Michael_Corvin> internet explorer 7 just got relieased?
[10:09] <zdodge> BonBonTheJon: i didnt modified the xorg config i just ran the live cd it did everything on its own... i even wouldnt be able to modify the xorg.conf because the keyboard doesnt work... :/
[10:09] <picarito> uhm
[10:10] <Kr4t05> Hrm, I shouldn't have any problems installing wine from the budget-dedicated repos for dapper onto edgy, should I?
[10:10] <cryptonic> but i want 32bit ubuntu on my system not 64bit, is there a way of stoping it from autodetecting?
[10:10] <dude> abattoir: tnx, try to reboot
[10:10] <Michael_Corvin> cryptonic,  only if u do a manual install
[10:10] <Michael_Corvin> download the alternate install
[10:10] <abattoir> dude: ok
[10:10] <Michael_Corvin> and manually install ubuntu to ur liking
[10:10] <BonBonTheJon> zdodge: I normally use the alternative install disc
[10:10] <cryptonic> both 32bit and 64bit are on the same disc?
[10:10] <Michael_Corvin> yeah
[10:10] <Michael_Corvin> its just the kernel really
[10:11] <eltese> Does anyone know why my keyboard wont change its settings and why I cant reach my other partitions.. I installed kubuntu today and Im very bad at this :)
[10:11] <zdodge> BonBonTheJon: yeah i want to install it too, but only when i am sure it does work... i dont want to destroy my current linux installation and then notice it does not work...
[10:11] <Michael_Corvin> thats the difference between it. linux has no "64 bit os vversion"
[10:11] <Michael_Corvin> linux is the kernel
[10:11] <Michael_Corvin> the rest is just the distro
[10:11] <Michael_Corvin> appz and such
[10:12] <cryptonic> app support for 64bit linux is dismal thoughsupport
[10:12] <BonBonTheJon> zdodge: sorry, I don't know much about the LiveCD
[10:12] <cryptonic> thats why i want 32bit
[10:12] <zdodge> BonBonTheJon: thanks anyway :)
[10:12] <Michael_Corvin> the issue really is that the 64 bit is actually new
[10:12] <Michael_Corvin>  i had an athlon 64 on windows and linux
[10:12] <Michael_Corvin> and it crashed randomly... mainly bad code of some appz
[10:12] <Michael_Corvin> and mainly music ripping issues.
[10:13] <Michael_Corvin> even if u are using the 32 bit kernel
[10:13] <Michael_Corvin> its a cpu thing
[10:13] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: it looks like there is a DNS problem, it is trying to go to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:13] <shindmar> ok... and then?
[10:13] <maya> hola
[10:13] <Michael_Corvin> hola
[10:13] <shindmar> how can i know what is the right dns and change it?
[10:13] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: is there anyway you can plug the computer directly into the internet, not through the router
[10:14] <cryptonic> so what can i do then if anything at all to trick apps into thinking its a 32bit processor?
[10:14] <shindmar> no
[10:14] <Michael_Corvin> well... u could use the 386 kernel
[10:14] <Michael_Corvin> but itll still crash
[10:14] <maya> hola
[10:14] <Michael_Corvin> maya de donde eres?
[10:14] <Michael_Corvin> i mean
[10:14] <cryptonic> i dont get much crashes to be honest
[10:14] <Michael_Corvin> the mad64 has a couple of bugs
[10:15] <Michael_Corvin> well then keep it
[10:15] <Michael_Corvin>  i had it on windows xp
[10:15] <Michael_Corvin> and it crashed with nero and wmplayer
[10:15] <shindmar> Bon BOn , there isn't a way to do this
[10:15] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: try to find out another DNS server for your ISP, and put that in with the 192.168. line
[10:16] <cryptonic> its fairly annoying not being able to use apps like skype and wine because of the processor you have and not being able to use flash , etc
[10:16] <Michael_Corvin> but by the way cryptonic , do u have one of the newer amd 64 or the first relieases?
[10:16] <shindmar> sorry, how can i find another dns? i must ask to my provider? and what means put it with the 192.168?, very sorry, but i'm new
[10:16] <Michael_Corvin> *releases
[10:16] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: and it looks like you have IPv6 which the network may not understand
[10:16] <Michael_Corvin> maya,  hola de donde eres?
[10:16] <shindmar> yes i have ipvs
[10:16] <shindmar> ipv6
[10:17] <cryptonic> amd 64bit dual core 3800 socket am2
[10:17] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: does your ISP support it?
[10:17] <Michael_Corvin> whoa
[10:17] <Xal> Hi
[10:17] <Michael_Corvin> i dont think theres a kernel for that yet
[10:17] <BonBonTheJon> hi
[10:17] <shindmar> i don't know
[10:17] <dude> abattoir: tnx, im back, forget linspire or freespire...
[10:17] <Xal> I have recently upgraded to edgy, and these packages are being held back.
[10:18] <Michael_Corvin> but u should use the amd 64 SMP
[10:18] <Michael_Corvin>  if u find that kernel
[10:18] <Xal> http://pastebin.ca/221656
[10:18] <Xal> What should I do about this.
[10:18] <Michael_Corvin> so that it uses both cores
[10:18] <abattoir> dude: heh
[10:18] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: I think you should try to disbale IPv6
[10:18] <cryptonic> yeah, i had to install ubuntu in noapic mode cause it doent support socket am2
[10:18] <shindmar> yes, howto?
[10:18] <Michael_Corvin> yeah
[10:18] <Michael_Corvin> dang
[10:18] <Michael_Corvin> thats the problem with new cpus
[10:19] <Michael_Corvin> ittl be some tim till the kernel is updated
[10:19] <shindmar> i must use ipv4?
[10:19] <Michael_Corvin> but
[10:19] <Michael_Corvin> u can try to compile one of the newer linux kernels and patch it for ubuntu
[10:19] <dude> abattoir: have to go...thank you....
[10:19] <cryptonic> not sure what apic was anyways, i have a slight idea it might be the new ubuntu boot loader
[10:19] <Michael_Corvin>  its a hell of a quest
[10:19] <dude> bye guys . . .
[10:19] <abattoir> dude: no problem, sorry couldn't be of much help
[10:19] <shindmar> now i'm in network settings
[10:19] <shindmar> and all the options are in ip6
[10:20] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: IPv4 is the current, IPv6 is the upcoming version, but your ISP might not understand it, so apt-get is trying to do IPv6
[10:20] <shindmar> yes, now i must change in ipv4, i must only correct the aliases?
[10:20] <cryptonic> well what version of the kernal does edgy use?
[10:20] <shindmar> or do some commands?
[10:20] <Michael_Corvin> well
[10:20] <Michael_Corvin> 2.6.17 i think
[10:20] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: hold on while I look up a howto
[10:20] <shindmar> ok... thanks!!!!
[10:21] <Michael_Corvin> there are newer kernels
[10:21] <cryptonic> its onto 2.6.18 now isnt it
[10:21] <Michael_Corvin> i think so somehwere around that
[10:21] <Michael_Corvin> but lemme chek whatsthe newwest linux one
[10:21] <zdodge> 2.6.18
[10:21] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6841
[10:21] <shindmar> MANY MANY THANKS
[10:21] <BonBonTheJon> shindmar: ask questions if you have any
[10:22] <shindmar> thanks
[10:22] <Michael_Corvin> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:22] <Michael_Corvin> yeah
[10:23] <Michael_Corvin> cryptonic,  u should ost ur problem on the forums
[10:23] <Michael_Corvin> *post
[10:23] <morla> hi! is fakeraid support broken in Edgy?
[10:23] <judgen> is there a guide somewhere who to get smb4k to work?
[10:24] <Michael_Corvin> pretty much worthy of posting there
[10:24] <Michael_Corvin> bbl
[10:24] <cryptonic> hmmmmm.... i doubt theres any point in going through the hastle for a small realease like that
[10:25] <Dr_willis> judgen,  i use it all the time..
[10:25] <Dr_willis> judgen,  sudo apt-get isntall smb4k, then as the smb4k FAQ says..  sudo chmod +s  the smbmnt and smbumnt (I think) binaries.
[10:25] <BonBonTheJon> morla: what do you mean fake raid
[10:26] <trappist> Dr_willis: smbmount and smbumount
[10:26] <morla> BobBonTheJon: biosraid.. my pci raid card actually has all the work done by the driver in software
[10:27] <Dr_willis> trappist,  I STILL want to know where the 'n' went in uNmount :)
[10:27] <judgen> thanks Dr_willis
[10:27] <trappist> Dr_willis: yeah, of all the letters to drop... except maybe the u
[10:27] <Dr_willis> I thought smb4k mentioned the binaries. :) but they may not give the full details.
[10:28] <BonBonTheJon> morla: I don't know much about raid, but I set up disk-redundancy (RAID1 I think) at home
[10:29] <LjL> Dr_willis, wake up. this is unix.
[10:29] <morla> BonBonJon: done entirely by the kernel or with an raid controller?
[10:29] <Dr_willis> LjL,  i rember smb4k giving the details i needed. :)
[10:29] <BonBonTheJon> morla: kernel
[10:30] <LjL> Dr_willis: i was talking about the missing N
[10:30] <Dr_willis> Then again. i guess its not 'secure' to have them allready chmod +s, or the sm4k maintainer decided to not have it done/asked in the pacage init scripts. :)
[10:30] <jende_> howdy folks
[10:30] <Dr_willis> LjL,  heh . :P actually i think it has somthing to do with the Old-skool 6, then 8 character limit on  some of the OLD OLD unix sustems
[10:30] <jende_> LjL: howdy
[10:30] <morla> BonBonJon: did you use dmraid? It's strange, since breezy my raid partition waorks out of the box, but not in edgy
[10:30] <LjL> Dr_willis: then what does "creat" have to do with anything? :)
[10:30] <lis> need help! someone knows how listen to music? Applications recomended?
[10:31] <BonBonTheJon> morla: yeah, I think I used dmraid
[10:31] <BonBonTheJon> hey jende_
[10:31] <gupta> This is so stupid!! I can't download kmplayer http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=126 without registering!!!!!
[10:31] <jende_> BonBonTheJon: howdy
[10:31] <Dr_willis> we need to go back to .exe :)  heh..
[10:31] <BonBonTheJon> lis: amarok is installed
[10:31] <BonBonTheJon> gupta: use adept to install it
[10:31] <judgen> Dr_willis: now it tells me "libsmb based programs must NOT be setuid root"
[10:31] <jende_> lis
[10:32] <jende_> !mp3
[10:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:32] <Jonty> Can anyone explain this: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2331 and how to fix it? It pops up a debconf dialog box which says "Incorrect nice value. Please enter a integer between -20 and 19, in which only cancel works, and then the rest fails miserably
[10:32] <mkquist> lis-rythmbox...
[10:32] <Dr_willis> judgen,  Hmm.. double check.. WHAT  did you suid.
[10:32] <gupta> that installs an old version, and there is then some confusion with KMplayeraand Kmplayer
[10:32] <lis> bonbon amarok doesn't work
[10:32] <gupta> !KMplayer
[10:32] <morla> BonBonJon: ok so I know it should work, I'll investigate forther now :)
[10:32] <mkquist> list-streams? or mp3s?
[10:32] <lis> jende what?
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KMplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <gupta> !Kmplayer
[10:32] <jende_> lis: are you on dapper?
[10:32] <gupta> !kmplayer
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Kmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <ubotu> kmplayer: media player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+0.9.2-rc1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 161 kB, installed size 524 kB
[10:32] <lis> mkquist thanks
[10:32] <BonBonTheJon> morla: you need tro install support for mp3s
[10:32] <Dr_willis>         -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    8672 2006-07-11 09:28 /usr/bin/smbmnt
[10:32] <Dr_willis>  -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    6088 2006-07-11 09:28 /usr/bin/smbumount
[10:32] <judgen> Dr_willis: smbmount as you said
[10:32] <mkquist> lis - ur welcome
[10:33] <lis> mkquist mp3
[10:33] <jende_> !mp3
[10:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <mkquist> list - have u installed codecs for nonfree?
[10:33] <gupta> So there are 2 players - Kmplayer and KMplayer AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:33] <Dr_willis> judgen,  you missed the part where trappist corrected me. :)
[10:33] <jende_> lis: check the multimedialinks
[10:33] <morla> BonBonJon: mp3 support my raid setup? :)
[10:33] <BonBonTheJon> morla: lol, sorry, too much going on at once
[10:34] <Jonty> Can anyone explain this: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2331 and how to fix it? It pops up a debconf dialog box which says "Incorrect nice value. Please enter a integer between -20 and 19, in which only cancel works, and then the rest fails miserably
[10:34] <morla> BonBonJon: :)
[10:34] <picarito> i have an user who choose a no existent theme, and when he loged, the system shows an large error page, how can i fix it (replace the selected theme with an active theme)
[10:34] <lis> jende ok
[10:34] <BonBonTheJon> morla: but that would be sweet
[10:34] <lis> thaks everybody
[10:34] <jende_> lis: once again...marok is not installed or not playing your mp3's?
[10:34] <BonBonTheJon> Jonty: did you put in a value
[10:34] <trappist> Jonty: what package is that?  I've gotten it before
[10:34] <morla> BonBonJon: finally my mp3s playing at double speed :P
[10:34] <Jonty> x11-common
[10:34] <thomas__> wow
[10:35] <Jonty> BonBonTheJon: There's no option to, it's in, I presume, a preinst script
[10:35] <BonBonTheJon> morla: or I would have redundancy for the mp3's
[10:35] <thomas__> this is my first time ever using linux online
[10:35] <BonBonTheJon> hi thomas__
[10:35] <jende_> thomas__: hope irs fun
[10:35] <trappist> Jonty: do you have debconf using like qt or something?
[10:35] <morla> BonBonJon: True stereo :)
[10:35] <judgen> Dr_willis: any ideas?
[10:35] <SHRIKEE> is kvpnc a reliable app?
[10:35] <thomas__> isn't there any kind of bootloader in Kubuntu?
[10:35] <jende_> thomas__: hope its fun
[10:35] <BonBonTheJon> morla: lol, bad jokes on both sides
[10:35] <Jonty> trappist: I haven't done anything intentionally
[10:35] <Dr_willis> judgen,  set the permissions right..  :)
[10:35] <judgen> on libsmb?
[10:36] <judgen> then?
[10:36] <thomas__> jende: always fun with a new look :D
[10:36] <Dr_willis> judgen,    -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    6088 2006-07-11 09:28 /usr/bin/smbumount
[10:36] <Jonty> trappist: but it may be. How do I find out
[10:36] <trappist> Jonty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf, select dialog, and try again
[10:36] <mkquist> morla - had that same problem, seemed to fix itself after a coupla reboots.. =\
[10:36] <BonBonTheJon> thomas__: grub should have been installed
[10:36] <Dr_willis> judgen,  THOSE 2 files are the ones that need to be suid.
[10:36] <Dr_willis> judgen,   -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    6088 2006-07-11 09:28 /usr/bin/smbumount
[10:36] <Kr4t05> BRB
[10:36] <Jonty> trappist: ahh, it's set to kde
[10:36] <Dr_willis> grr,, silly paste. :)
[10:37] <Jonty> trappist: anyway, set it to dialog
[10:37] <morla> mkquist: and you got into your raid array just without fixing anything?
[10:37] <trappist> Jonty: it's still a bug that should probably be filed, but I think using dialog should get you past it
[10:37] <Jonty> It works! Thanks!
[10:37] <morla> BonBonJon: there are no bad jokes, there only are people without humour :)
[10:37] <thomas__> where can I find Grub?
[10:37] <Dr_willis> judgen,  # sudo chmod +s/usr/bin/smbumount /usr/bin/smbmnt
[10:38] <BonBonTheJon> morla: have you seen the speakers someone made out of a harddrive
[10:38] <Dr_willis> Dang it - i cant paste nothing right. :) missing a space there.
[10:38] <Jonty> Jarkko Oikarinen deserves a medal
[10:38] <BonBonTheJon> thomas__: what do you mean?
[10:38] <Jonty> (the inventor of IRC, for those who haven't just looked him up :P)
[10:38] <trappist> Jonty: I'll be your best pal if you file the bug :)
[10:38] <mkquist> morla - nono, sry i say ur comment on mp3's playing at double speed, had a similar problem w/ playing
[10:39] <Jonty> trappist: sure, I have an account
[10:39] <jende_> !grub
[10:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:39] <mkquist> morla saw*
[10:39] <morla> BonBonJon: no.. but now that sound geeky :) do the 'speakers' play the music via rotating at different speeds?
[10:39] <Jonty> trappist: is it just x11-common that's affected?
[10:39] <BonBonTheJon> morla: I think I saw it on Engadget
[10:40] <thomas__> BonBonTheJon:  I don't know how to find Grub ....
[10:40] <morla> mkquist: hehe well it was a little joke about mp3 for raid ;)
[10:40] <jende_> thomas__:
[10:40] <jende_> !grub
[10:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:40] <BonBonTheJon> thomas__: what do you want to do with it
[10:40] <trappist> Jonty: I'm pretty sure that's the same package I ran into that issue on
[10:40] <thomas__> When my computer are booting I want to have to opportunity to choose between Kubuntu and Windows
[10:41] <Jonty> trappist: right
[10:41] <morla> BonBonJon: I'll have a look
[10:41] <BonBonTheJon> thomas__: are you in kubuntu now?
[10:41] <thomas__> BonBonTheJon:  yes i am
[10:42] <judgen> Dr_willis: what command will that be? sr? if rwxrwxrwx=777 then what to use for sr?
[10:42] <Jonty> trappist: what's a good way of summing up what kde and dialog is to debconf
[10:42] <judgen> 7=rwx
[10:42] <Dr_willis> chmod +s whatever
[10:42] <BonBonTheJon> thomas__: do you have a folder /boot/grub
[10:43] <Dr_willis> judgen,  # sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount /usr/bin/smbmnt
[10:43] <BonBonTheJon> thomas__: or run "dpkg -l grub" and see if it has an i at the front
[10:43] <Dr_willis> judgen,  # sudo chmod -s  That/file/that/ya/did/earlier
[10:43] <thomas__> BonBonTheJon:  yes
[10:43] <trappist> Jonty: x11-common is uninstallable when debconf method is kde
[10:44] <BonBonTheJon> thomas__: so it is installed, when you boot it should say push ESC for the menu
[10:44] <sybux> any know a good tutorial to install postfix, spamassin under ubuntu server ?
[10:44] <thomas__> BonBonTheJon: ok .. I didn't see such text .. but I'll retry
[10:45] <jende_> thomas__: grub will boot by defaut into linux
[10:45] <BonBonTheJon> sybux: google for "ubuntu dapper perfect isp", they have a good tutorial
[10:45] <judgen> Dr_willis: but it tells me in the dialogue in smb4k then that the apps should NOT be owned by root, shall i chown them to user then?
[10:45] <BonBonTheJon> thomas__: check if that text appears, if it does we can show the menu
[10:45] <BonBonTheJon> sybux: its like how-to forge or something
[10:45] <sybux> BonBonTheJon: thnx
[10:45] <Dr_willis> judgen,  check your command history... if i recall - the FIRST command you used.. chmoded the WRONG binary - you need to UNsuid that one.
[10:46] <judgen> ok gottcha
[10:46] <Dr_willis> judgen,  check         ls -l /usr/bin/smb*
[10:46] <sybux> yes it's how-to forge.
[10:46] <Dr_willis> judgen,  the suid ones are showing up in BRIGHT red to me. :P
[10:47] <Dr_willis> judgen,  and yes. theres way too many simillary named bianries. :)
[10:47] <judgen> Dr_willis: nope none has changed
[10:47] <Jonty> trappist: There we go: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/68267
[10:47] <Dr_willis> smbmnt  smbumount are the 2 i have that are suid.
[10:47] <judgen> me too
[10:48] <Kr4t05> Er, my kicker keeps crashing...
[10:48] <Dr_willis> close smb4k and repopen it perhaps..
[10:48] <Dr_willis> i unSUID'd the 2 and get    smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts
[10:48] <judgen> the error dialogue differs when i have the +s or not, but the new messages is that it should NOT be set as setuid root
[10:49] <Dr_willis> smbumount must be installed suid root
[10:49] <Dr_willis> judgen,  do a "history | grep chmod" and see what all you chmoded
[10:49] <Jonty> trappist: it's so great to see all the other packages that it help back installing - ahhhh
[10:49] <judgen> i have done that allready
[10:49] <judgen> only those wro files
[10:49] <judgen> two
[10:49] <Jonty> trappist: (I'm very, very thankful)
[10:50] <Dr_willis> ive done this dozens of times.  and never had this issue UNLESS i chmode the wrong file.
[10:50] <morphish> dpkg -L $package is "THE" way to check which files an installed package contains?
[10:50] <sorush20> how do I restart the kde taskbar , when I install something new I can't get the new icons to show in the program?
[10:51] <|Matt|> how much memory does Kubuntu require (reccomended)?
[10:51] <morphish> now i get it, ipkungfu trappist, i knew that name sounded familiar
[10:51] <trappist> Jonty: ossum
[10:51] <trappist> morphish: that's me
[10:51] <Slynderdale> Matt: It runs very well on an old 255 RAM card
[10:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> grrrrrr, wher is the page with sources.list example??
[10:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !multiverse
[10:52] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:52] <Dr_willis> off to cook some spagattiiiiiiie  bbl.
[10:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> grrr, help
[10:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> spagatti?
[10:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> cosa?
[10:52] <trappist> !repos | Tallia1Kubuntu
[10:52] <ubotu> Tallia1Kubuntu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:53] <ypsila> hello
[10:53] <sorush20> ypsila:
[10:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> trappist: there's no example source in there
[10:53] <trappist> oh
[10:54] <ypsila> sorush20:
[10:55] <sorush20> ypsila: hi
[10:55] <morphish> this is so neat, although flash9 is unsinstalled, when i go to slashdot FF2 dies a sudden death
[10:55] <sorush20> !kliker
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kliker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <ypsila> hi to you all
[10:55] <morghanphoenix> how do I list the currently running processes to find one I need to kill?
[10:56] <trappist> morghanphoenix: ps aux
[10:56] <ypsila> top
[10:56] <jende_> morghanphoenix: howdy
[10:56] <morghanphoenix> ello
[10:56] <sorush20> morghanphoenix: or you could just do ctrl + alt + del.. to see the processes
[10:56] <trappist> top won't usually display all the processes (your screen probably isn't tall enough)
[10:56] <jende_> ntop -tulpen; if its about internet stuff
[10:57] <virtex> ok.... how do i mount a partition so everyone can read and write to it ???
[10:57] <morghanphoenix> It was the planeshift client
[10:57] <morghanphoenix> Damn thing froze
[10:57] <jende_> virtex: what do you mean by "everyone"?
[10:58] <trappist> virtex: mount with the 'umask=0' option
[10:58] <sorush20> what is the equivalent to netstat in kubuntu
[10:58] <trappist> sorush20: netstat
[10:58] <virtex> if i use the umask option it won't mount at all
[10:58] <jende_> sorush20: netstat
[10:58] <jende_> virtex: what do you mean by "everyone"?
[10:58] <ypsila> virtex: 777
[10:58] <trappist> virtex: option as in mount -o umask=0 /dev/foo /mnt/point
[10:58] <virtex> well right now only root can write files to it
[10:58] <morghanphoenix> That was weird, it wasn't running, just stuck to my screen.
[10:59] <jende_> virtex: as ypsila said you should be fine with 777
[10:59] <cybercoffee> hi :D
[10:59] <trappist> morghanphoenix: you can use xkill to kill frozen gui apps
[11:00] <cybercoffee> i was wondering how do you install a kde theme manager for kubuntu?
[11:00] <trappist> morghanphoenix: hit ctrl-alt-escape, and your cursor should turn into a skull and crossbones, and you just click the offending app
[11:00] <cybercoffee> xkill and ksysguard are phun
[11:00] <virtex> tells me it's the wrong fstype whenever i use the umask option
[11:00] <jende_> virtex: paste it
[11:00] <jende_> 1paste
[11:00] <trappist> virtex: how exactly are you using the umask option (what's the mount command)
[11:00] <morghanphoenix> Nice
[11:00] <jende_> !paste
[11:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:01] <morghanphoenix> Never had that happen before.
[11:01] <ypsila> *kreisch* I want that
[11:01] <ypsila> morghanphoenix: the one and only question: what did you do before?
[11:02] <morghanphoenix> I'm game hunting today, even the guy that got me started on linux has gone back to windows for games.
[11:02] <ypsila> morghanphoenix: okay, I see
[11:02] <virtex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28314/
[11:02] <trappist> morghanphoenix: not me.  I'm perfectly happy to limit my games to those that either run under cedega or have native linux clients
[11:02] <morghanphoenix> So far the tally is Vendetta Online, and planeshift looks good if I can get it to run.
[11:02] <tich> i've been searching for a link to easykubuntu but they all seem to be either dead or french. where is the link? where can i get current install instructions?
[11:02] <virtex> even without the -t ext3 it gives me the same error
[11:03] <morghanphoenix> Once I get UO working I'll be set for life.
[11:03] <ypsila> tich: what is your aim?
[11:03] <trappist> morghanphoenix: quake 1/2/3/4, ut*, neverwinternights... lots of games run great natively under linux
[11:03] <thomas__> BonBonTheJon:  thanx .. now everything works ...
[11:03] <BonBonTheJon> thomas__: good
[11:03] <thomas__> But ... I have some problems playing mp3 files ...
[11:04] <morghanphoenix> I like NWN, had the special edition box set.
[11:04] <tich> ypsila, i want to install restricted drivers for dvd and music playback.
[11:04] <jende_> thomas__:
[11:04] <virtex> hmmm dmesg had "Unrecognized mount option "umask=0" or missing value"
[11:04] <ypsila> tich: restricted is your keyword
[11:04] <jende_> !libxine-extracodecs
[11:04] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[11:04] <jende_> thomas__: ^^^^
[11:05] <magical_trevsky> hi, I would like my wireless to autoconnect at startup (rather than me having to use wlassistant every time), and the ubuntu site says to add a line after the line 'iface ra0' in /etc/network/interfaces, but this line doesn't exist.. any ideas?
[11:05] <morghanphoenix> !restricted formats
[11:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:05] <thomas__> is there any better players than amorok? ... it won't play my files :(
[11:05] <morghanphoenix> that's my favorite page for multimedia
[11:05] <jende_> thomas__: are you following us?
[11:05] <virtex> Amorok will play you need to install the codecs
[11:05] <ypsila> thomas__:  xmms
[11:05] <thomas__> it only says ... "the playlist is done"
[11:05] <virtex> or it just skips the songs and fly's through the play list
[11:05] <jende_> thomas__: are you following us?
[11:05] <thomas__> jende: huh?
[11:05] <ypsila> jende_: of course not
[11:05] <virtex> lol
[11:05] <morghanphoenix> Blows right through them without playing?
[11:05] <tich> so is there a link to easykubuntu?
[11:06] <morghanphoenix> thomas
[11:06] <jende_> thomas__: you need the libxie-extracodecs installed
[11:06] <morghanphoenix> easyubuntu works
[11:06] <jende_> !libxine-extracodecs
[11:06] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[11:06] <thomas__> jende_: ahh ..  ok
[11:06] <ypsila> tich: ever heard of "google"?
[11:06] <jende_> thomas__:
[11:06] <ypsila> tich:  sorry for that kind of answer
[11:06] <thomas__> jende_:  where can I get that?
[11:06] <jende_> thomas__: so, yu will have to modify your sources.list
[11:07] <morghanphoenix> read the restricted formats page, it's got all that on it, including libdvdcss for commercial dvd playback.
[11:07] <jende_> thomas__: pastebin your sources.list
[11:07] <tich> ypsila, i did google it and found only dead or french links (which might also be dead, i don't know)
[11:07] <twosouls82> good evening or something like that to all :)
[11:07] <jende_> thomas__: ALT+F2 "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <tich> which i said before.
[11:08] <jende_> thomas__: and paste it to.....
[11:08] <jende_> !paste
[11:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:08] <ypsila> tich: ah, I'm sorry then
[11:08] <morghanphoenix> More linux programs need shell scripts like the vendetta online installer.
[11:08] <tich> ypsila, that's okay.
[11:10] <tich> ypsila, do people still use it? (or have they ever for kde?) or is it pretty much a dead idea?
[11:10] <thomas__> jende_: : done
[11:10] <ypsila> tich: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-69037.html you get along with this link?
[11:10] <virtex> anyone else have any ideas about mounting the drive ?
[11:10] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: did you upgrade?
[11:10] <jende_> thomas__: so give ne the URL
[11:10] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, yep.
[11:10] <jende_> thomas__: so give me the URL
[11:10] <thomas__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28317/
[11:10] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: with the instructions on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade ?
[11:11] <ypsila> tich:  how could I know?
[11:11] <tich> another question would be: is it smarter to update to edgy then install the restricted stuff or vice versa?
[11:11] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, I started upgrading before those instructions came available. Everything that's mentioned there was upgraded
[11:11] <tich> ypsila, i just assumed you'd know.
[11:11] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: ok. did you experience any problems?
[11:12] <morphish> if kubuntu finds an existing grub, will it only update menu.lst (will it also check for a grub.conf and create a menu.lst from that?)
[11:12] <ypsila> tich:  how? I just googled
[11:12] <ypsila> tich: wait for the edgy release and then try to update
[11:12] <thomas__> !libxine-extracodecs
[11:12] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[11:13] <jende_> thomas__: here is your new sources.list
[11:13] <jende_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28318/
[11:13] <tich> ypsila, thanks.
[11:13] <Juan___> Hi
[11:13] <ypsila> tich: welcome
[11:13] <thomas__> jende_:  but I havent installed anything ?
[11:13] <Juan___> Could anyone ssh my machine and tell me if it does work ?
[11:14] <Slynderdale> WOw thats real safe
[11:14] <twosouls82> :)
[11:14] <LjL> Juan___: yes it does
[11:14] <Juan___> Thank you !
[11:14] <ypsila> *lach*
[11:14] <jende_> thomas__: so, you can't as you have to modify first of all your sources.list to install something, okay
[11:14] <morphish><EMAIL_ADDRESS>password:
[11:14] <thomas__> okay
[11:15] <thomas__> so what I have to do is to rewrite sources.list with your correction?
[11:15] <jende_> thomas__: did you get the URL?
[11:15] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, yes, whenever my system starts now, and X starts up, the colors are a bit distorted until I do a ctrl + alt + f1 and then ctrl + alt + f7, which seems to fix the problem. No dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't fix it. Nor does playing with my vesa modes and so on (I've tried a few things)
[11:15] <thomas__> yes jende_
[11:15] <sorush20> how do i relaod the taksbar with the kmenu on it?
[11:16] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: i meant during the upgrade process (i don't have a solution for that problem.. did you search bugs.ubuntu.com?)
[11:16] <jende_> thomas__: just modify re my corrections,
[11:16] <thomas__> yes
[11:16] <jende_> thomas__: and you'll be fine
[11:16] <thomas__> It's been done :D
[11:16] <jende_> thomas__: okay
[11:16] <jende_> thomas__: close kate now
[11:17] <thomas__> done
[11:17] <jende_> thomas__: then open a console using ALT+F2 -> command console
[11:17] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, well, I had a few packages that refused to be upgraded, but when I 'forcefully' installed xserver-xorg-core, all the other packages that were refusing to install in dist-upgrade, installed
[11:17] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: what about the renamed python packages?
[11:17] <thomas__> doen
[11:18] <sorush20> how do i relaod the taksbar with the kmenu on it?
[11:18] <jende_> thomas__: good. now type sudo apt-get update
[11:18] <Hawkwind> sorush20: You mean kicker ?
[11:18] <twosouls82> alt+f2 -> type 'kicker' for the start menu
[11:18] <jende_> Hawkwind: howdy... ;-)
[11:18] <Hawkwind> sorush20: If it's running currently, killall kicker && kicker & from a terminal or alt-f2
[11:18] <Hawkwind> jende_: Hey there
[11:19] <bLaZeD> weird...i got home and my screen saver was running....but the text that was usaly white was tinted blue.....and when i moved my mouse everything had a blue tint to it....so i logged out of my desktop..and then restarted x....still tinted blue....so i did ctl alt f1 droped to cli and was about to try and see if it was the driver(im using beta nvidia) but it then tunred back to normal b4 i got to edit the
[11:19] <bLaZeD> xorg.conf....and when i 1st went to cli it was still tinted blue.....
[11:19] <thomas__> hey something is unpacking :p lol
[11:19] <thomas__> magic ;)
[11:19] <jende_> thomas__:done?
[11:19] <thomas__> jende_: yes
[11:20] <bLaZeD> only thing i have changed was i have installed beryl, and added the compiz repo...so it updated a few xorg things i think.....but everything still works....and this is the 1st time ive had it happen...
[11:20] <bLaZeD> !schedule
[11:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:20] <jende_> thomas__: once that is done type sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[11:20] <thomas__> hmm .. that did not work
[11:21] <thomas__> ah .. now it works
[11:21] <virtex> how do i mount an ext3 partition so someone besides root can access it ??
[11:21] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, looking in the .bash_history, yes, those too :)
[11:21] <bLaZeD> virtex, u can do it diff ways
[11:21] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: ok, thanks :)
[11:22] <zorglu_> "The time has come to introduce some seriously interesting, but definitely edgy, new technologies that lay the groundwork for the next wave of Ubuntu development.<- from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/RC/Kubuntu but unfortunatly they dont explain what are those new technology, only give the new version of the supported package. anybody with an idea of what are those new tech ?
[11:22] <bLaZeD> if the user is gonna permantly be allowed to it...use chown
[11:22] <amorgen> hello all
[11:22] <sorush20> i can't see the programs that i have just install in the kmenu how do I het to see them?
[11:22] <thomas__> jende_: done!
[11:22] <jende_> thomas__: start amarok and play an mp3 file
[11:22] <inteliwasp> a programming newb question: how hard is it to port a program from windows to linux with the sourcecode?
[11:22] <virtex> chown what ? the directory it's being mounted too ??
[11:22] <amorgen> someone could help with fglrx please ?
[11:22] <inteliwasp> !fglrx
[11:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:23] <thomas__> hmm
[11:23] <thomas__> nothing seems to happend
[11:23] <zorglu_> inteliwasp: depend on the program
[11:23] <thomas__> same thing as previously
[11:23] <bLaZeD> virtex, say u have a partion mounted at /music ...u would chown user /music(check the sytax...it may be chown user user /music)\
[11:23] <amorgen> i followed the howto but i still have a problem loading the agp module
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> inteliwasp: that would on how dependent it was on the win32 api
[11:24] <amorgen> some people say there is something weird with "cat /proc/mtrr"
[11:24] <virtex> bLaZeD: operation not permitted
[11:24] <inteliwasp> the website said it used the .net 2.0
[11:24] <jende_> thomas__: thats weird
[11:24] <bLaZeD> virtex, as root
[11:24] <thomas__> jende_: I'll retry
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> inteliwasp: well you could try compiling it under mono & see what it bitches at
[11:24] <virtex> bLaZeD: LOL my bad
[11:25] <jende_> thomas__: ah well, you might have to close amarok and restart it
[11:25] <morghanphoenix> duh, sudo the binary installer.
[11:25] <bLaZeD> virtex, np ;)
[11:25] <inteliwasp> !mono
[11:25] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[11:25] <amorgen> "(EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOSPC"
[11:25] <morghanphoenix> I feel smart now
[11:25] <thomas__> maybe I should reboot?
[11:25] <apsog33> real quick question. What is an easy to use firewall for kubuntu/kde
[11:25] <jende_> thomas__: just close amarok once and restart it
[11:25] <zorglu_> !firewall
[11:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:25] <jende_> !IPCop
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IPCop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <virtex> bLaZeD: Thanks man, works fine now
[11:26] <apsog33> thanks bot :)
[11:26] <bLaZeD> virtex, good...i did that to several of my partions...
[11:26] <windshear> ipcop can't be installed on a kubuntu machine
[11:26] <jende_> zorglu_: a real nice firewall is IPCop...google tells you but it
[11:26] <amorgen> you think binary driver would solve ?
[11:26] <thomas__> jende_:  it doesn't work
[11:26] <thomas__> weird
[11:27] <jende_> thomas__: mmore than weird. what says a sudo apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs
[11:27] <zorglu_> jende_: noted
[11:27] <virtex> bLaZeD: Yea i was getting annoyed having 260gb's of space an only root able to access it lol
[11:28] <bLaZeD> hehe
[11:28] <amorgen> what agp module to load with ati radeon mobility and nforce3 laptop ?
[11:28] <thomas__> jende_: it only flush my playlist ... no sound at all
[11:29] <jende_> thomas__: more than weird. what says a sudo apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs    -> paste the output
[11:29] <jende_> !paste
[11:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:30] <jende_> apsog33: kmyfirewall
[11:30] <jende_> !kmyfirewall
[11:30] <ubotu> kmyfirewall: iptables based firewall configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1214 kB, installed size 4060 kB
[11:31] <thomas__> weird
[11:32] <thomas__> I closed amaroK four or five times ... then suddenly it worked
[11:32] <jende_> apsog33: if you#re looking for a "real" firewall you may want to lokk at IPCop
[11:32] <jende_> thomas__: now it'll work forever, no doubt
[11:32] <thomas__> thanx jende_ :)
[11:33] <jende_> thomas__: no worries, you're welcome
[11:33] <morghanphoenix> how do you launch a desktop shortcut as root?
[11:33] <thomas__> Is it possible to get VLC player in Kubutu btw?
[11:33] <jende_> !VLC
[11:33] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:33] <virtex> thomas__: Yes it is i have VLC
[11:33] <virtex> VLC rocks
[11:34] <thomas__> I'd love to have VLC :D
[11:34] <jende_> I'm off now -> heading to bed; take care folks
[11:34] <twosouls82> night jende_
[11:34] <jende_> twosouls82: godd n8
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> n8 jende_
[11:35] <jende_> TheGateKeeper: yo, buddy, good night!see ya tomorrow, I hope
[11:35] <jende_> TheGateKeeper: after I joined the edgy release party
[11:35] <virtex> can Amarok play Audio CD ?
[11:36] <twosouls82> yep
[11:36] <virtex> nvm lol figured it out
[11:36] <twosouls82> ;) virtex
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> jende_: well I got to do some backing up before I let it near my pc :-)
[11:37] <virtex> lol i decided the best way to learn linux would be to abandon windows completely... lol :) haven't had too many problems so far just little stuff, got it to play the audio cd :) yay
[11:37] <twosouls82> heh lol
[11:37] <|lostbyte|> :)
[11:37] <twosouls82> you go virtex
[11:41] <virtex> lol
[11:43] <virtex> can i make it so konqueror doesn't open stuff on single click ?
[11:44] <Hawkwind> virtex: Yes
[11:44] <Hawkwind> virtex: kcontrol -> Peripheraels -> Mouse
[11:47] <virtex> Hawkwind: Thanks
[11:49] <Hawkwind> virtex: You're welcome
[11:55] <virtex> l8r all
[11:55] <nino> kdm is back to normal
[11:56] <webpower_> hi
[11:56] <nino> thanks for u help
[11:56] <webpower_> i've a problem
[11:56] <nino> bj have to go now thanks a mill
[11:57] <webpower_> i've compiled a kernel vanilla, it works, but when i start it with bootsplash, appears a black screen, and I start seeing when starts kde
[11:59] <Ash-Fox> Is there any way to make the edgy bootsplash more verbose like dapper's?
[12:01] <tmdx120> hello all. I have a question about booting and hdd accessl
[12:01] <Ash-Fox> !ask
[12:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:01] <poisonborz> ...umm... pretty lame place to ask for support, but could someone help with a not-loading display module?
[12:02] <tmdx120> I must managed to edit my GRUB so that I can have my second HDD as part of my boot menu instead of having to edit my boot parameters every time.
[12:02] <poisonborz> fresh install, and display module just won't load
[12:03] <Ash-Fox> tmdx120, sorry, I don't understand wat you're trying todo?
[12:03] <webpower_> chi mi aiuta col problemino?
[12:03] <tmdx120> Now, in dapper I cannot access my fat32 partition (for shared files) on my 1st HDD. it says "could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: can't find /dev/hda4 in  /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:04] <tmdx120> Ash-Fox: sorry let me explain. I have two HDD. HDA and SDA. I have a dual boot on HDA (XP/Mepis). On my SDA I have Dapper.
[12:05] <tmdx120> Ash-Fox: I just managed to edit GRUB so that I can have SDA/ Dapper as an option. Before this I had to change boot drive priority in the bios menu. what a pain.
[12:06] <tmdx120> Ash-Fox: so, now that I have that option in grub when I get into Dapper I cannot mount my HDA drive. I have a fat 32 partion that I set up for sharing between all my OS's
[12:06] <locustwar> hi all
[12:06] <Dr_willis> tmdx120,  manual mounting dont work?
[12:07] <tmdx120> Ash-Fox: the message I get whe I try to mount is "mount: cant find /dev/hda4 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:07] <locustwar> i decided to move from windows to linux, i have some questions:
[12:07] <Dr_willis> locustwar,  ask away
[12:08] <locustwar> i saw there aren't extensions in linux, are windows files compatible with linux ?