[09:15] <spych102> lisa_, gedit supports tabs
[09:15] <Seveas> spych102, but not rtf
[09:15] <spych102> oh...
[09:15] <lisa_> spych102, how can I see and switch between windows?
[09:15] <bastidrazor> Seveas: yes rtf too
[09:15] <lisa_> spych102, but gedit wouldnt open my rtf files :(
[09:16] <haftish> Crowler:  i know that but let me tell you one thing  iam not familar with ubuntu thats why iam asking such qoustion
[09:16] <Seveas> lisa_, bastidrazor had a good suggestion there: scite apparently does rtf and tabs
[09:16] <lisa_> bastidrazor, scite? ok i install now,. brb
[09:16] <Crowler> haftish dont worry, it works same way everywhere
[09:17] <anwaya> hey..sorry if i'm interrupting , I want to install python 2.5 on Ubuntu11.10..However apt-get says "package python2.5 has no installation  candidate"..I've done update and upgrade . Could any one tell me how to handle the problem please.?
[09:17] <Crowler> haftish you end up with lots of trash you'll never use, but you get everything working as a repay
[09:17] <spych102> lisa_ if you press the Windows Key + W it should show all windows and then you can , double click on the one you want.
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> !python
[09:18] <Seveas> anwaya, 11.10 has a newer python already, why do you want the old version?
[09:18] <lisa_> scite doesnt work :(  it opened my rtf files all code like messy text
[09:18] <haftish> Crowler:  still not
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> !info python
[09:18] <lisa_> spych102, cool
[09:18] <anwaya> for a software development i'm trying to work on..
[09:19] <Seveas> anwaya, and why do you specifically need that older version? Anything that runs on 2.5 will run on 2.6 and 2.7 too
[09:19] <Crowler> haftish if it still not working after installing "task" package, im out of ideas
[09:19] <lisa_> bastidrazor, any other ideas...scite opened my rtf files, but the text looks like this:
[09:19] <anwaya> Apparently not...This project specifically requires 2.5...:(
[09:19] <terminate> a
[09:20] <pglod> anwaya, try out virtualenv
[09:20] <terminate> anyone can help me about exploit web
[09:20] <lisa_> ouch.. pressing window key + W crashed my ubuntu :(
[09:20] <pglod> it lets you create self-contained python environments so you don't have to install 2.5 globally-- that might break things
[09:20] <Seveas> anwaya, that's a pain. You'll need to install from source into your homedir and keep that version well away from /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin so you don't upset ubuntu
[09:20] <Seveas> anwaya, and yeah, what pglod said
[09:21] <haftish> Crowler:  iam in pogress
[09:21] <haftish> Crowler:  i will tell you when iam finish this one
[09:21] <anwaya> k..Thanks a lot.
[09:21] <lisa_> scite didnt work... when I open my rtf files all i see is this... {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang3081{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil Courier New;}{\f1\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}{\f2\froman\fcharset0 Times New Roman;}}
[09:21] <lisa_> {\colortbl ;\red0\green0\blue255;}
[09:21] <lisa_> {\*\generator PolyEdit <IP_ADDRESS>.27014;}\viewkind4\uc1
[09:21] <lisa_> \pard\f0\fs20\par
[09:21] <FloodBot1> lisa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:22] <lisa_> anyone know of a text editor which supports multiple tabs + rtf files?
[09:22] <JelloPop> lisa_: What is a rtf file?
[09:22] <Seveas> lisa_, ah, so bastidrazor was technically correct but useless :) You're now seeing the source of the rtf file
[09:22] <haftish> Crowler:   still it is not working?>
[09:23] <Crowler> lisa_ wine+office
[09:23] <JelloPop> lisa_: have understanding of linux ur getting specific
[09:23] <__Alex_> JelloPop: Rich text format iirc
[09:23] <Crowler> lisa_ or wordpad
[09:23] <Seveas> __Alex_, correct :)
[09:23] <JelloPop> __Alex_:  is this supported in linux last time I checked it was a ways off
[09:23] <lisa_> it doesnt support making text bold or colored either
[09:24] <lisa_> so im back to square one :LP
[09:24] <Seveas> JelloPop, oh, openoffice and abiword can read it just fine. But neither do documents-in-tabs, which is the feature lisa_ is looking for :)
[09:24] <lisa_> Seveas, i wonder why nobody created a text editor for Ubuntu that supports multipe tabs and ability to make text colored or bold.  many such programs in windows but none on Linux?
[09:25] <Crowler> haftish sometimes services do not start automatically. either start them manually or reboot
[09:25] <JelloPop> Seveas: what about printing text in this format??
[09:25] <Seveas> lisa_, well, linux people like their multi-window applications more I guess
[09:25] <lisa_> JelloPop, its my first day, i only installed ubuntu today:)
[09:25] <Crowler> lisa_ rtf is windows format
[09:25] <haftish> Crowler:   thanks it works now
[09:25] <lisa_> i really need to find a text editor that does what I need.
[09:25] <Seveas> JelloPop, works A-ok
[09:26] <lisa_> Seveas, one may exist but we dont know which one :P
[09:26] <haftish> Crowler:   thank you  so much
[09:26] <Crowler> haftish np
[09:26] <Seveas> lisa_, indeed :)
[09:26] <JelloPop> Seveas: lots of advance since 97 sorry last time I had to deal with college homework and a windows network printer.. lol
[09:27] <Seveas> JelloPop, rofl :)
[09:27] <spych102> lisa_, have you tried TEA Text Editor?
[09:27] <Seveas> spych102, tea can't write rtf
[09:28] <lisa_> spych102, ill try it now... btw, can I press an icon on Ubuntu and it shows all programs open?
[09:28] <spych102> doh
[09:28] <lisa_> so I then select which program?  Alt+Tab is hurting my wrist lol
[09:28] <Seveas> lisa_, windows_key + w
[09:28] <lisa_> Seveas, I did Windows key + w, but Ubuntu crashed
[09:29] <Seveas> hmm, that's not good. Which version?
[09:29] <lisa_> and froze up
[09:29] <lisa_> Seveas, i just installed today, 11.10
[09:29] <lisa_> maybe my video drivers?
[09:29] <Rejo> I have an upstart script for Etherpad Lite, but it's not recognized (e.g. it's not listed when running "service --status-all"). Any idea's?
[09:29] <lisa_> how can I install latest nvidia drivers?
[09:29] <Seveas> I found 11.10 rather unreliable and quickly went to 12.04
[09:29] <Seveas> !nvidia | lisa_
[09:29] <lisa_> Seveas, 12.04 is out?
[09:29] <Rejo> http://pastebin.com/CVQPtPkX
[09:31] <benzaldehyde> Lisa make sure you close down X server to install the drivers...
[09:32] <lisa_> i wonder why Ubuntu website didnt offer me 12.04?
[09:32] <oCean> lisa_: because 12.04 is still beta
[09:32] <lisa_> benzaldehyde, i dont understand
[09:32] <lisa_> oCean, so 12.04 is better you say?
[09:32] <oCean> lisa_: no, 12.04 is beta, that means still testing. Not stable yet
[09:32] <Crowler> no, he says its beta version
[09:33] <lisa_> oCean, ok
[09:33] <scientes> lisa_, the developerment of FOSS softwre, inc. Ubuntu GNU/Linux, generally all done in the open
[09:33] <Xabster> feature richer, but not done
[09:33] <Xabster> thats normally what beta means
[09:33] <lisa_> ok
[09:33] <scientes> so while you CAN install the very latest version, it isn't always a good idea, as it hasn't been testes as much
[09:33] <lisa_> matt_symes_, you coming or goin? hehe
[09:33] <lisa_> scientes, ok
[09:33] <scientes> and it isn't designed for general consumption, like some debugging stuff is turned on, that gets turned off in the final version
[09:34] <matt_symes_> lisa_ trying to get a cloak
[09:34] <scientes> that said lisa_ , i am running 12.04 right now
[09:34] <Seveas> Rejo, that script looks reasonable to me (though I don't know upstart that well).
[09:34] <lisa_> ill stick withh 11 :)
[09:34] <Seveas> Rejo, but you've misread the 'service' manpage
[09:34] <Seveas>        service --status-all runs all init scripts, in alphabetical order, with the status command. This  option  only  calls  status  for  sysvinit  jobs,
[09:34] <Seveas>        upstart jobs can be queried in a similar manner with initctl list'.
[09:34] <Seveas> you'll want initctl list I guess :)
[09:35] <lisa_> is there a way to get a bar run across the bottom of screen which I can click on to open different programs that are running?
[09:35] <Seveas> lisa_, in ubuntu that bar is at the left hand side and cannot be moved
[09:35] <scientes> lisa_, so its important to note that even though a version is released, it continues to change, with bug fixes and more imp. security updates
[09:35] <Rejo> Seveas: If that is true, it's still not recognized as a service.
[09:36] <scientes> but no new features
[09:36] <Seveas> Rejo, 'initctl list' doesn't show it?
[09:36] <rizal> hay, someone can helping me!!!
[09:36] <Rejo> Seveas: Nope.
[09:36] <scientes> however, also take note, that the various programs that ubuntu packages are all on their own release cycles, so while some projects like GNOME are syncronized, other are not
[09:36] <Seveas> Rejo, odd, Does 'telinit q' help?
[09:36] <Rejo> Seveas: See:
[09:36] <Rejo> root@trillian:/etc/init# initctl list |grep ether
[09:36] <Rejo> root@trillian:/etc/init# ls *squid*
[09:36] <Rejo> squid.conf
[09:36] <Rejo> root@trillian:/etc/init# ls *etherpad*
[09:36] <Rejo> etherpad-lite.conf
[09:36] <FloodBot1> Rejo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <lisa_> Seveas, for example I now run xchat, which takes up the whole screen.  I dont even see the left bar.  Whats an easy way to switch between program? besides Win key + W?
[09:36] <scientes> like in ubuntu, universe packages from debian can be buggy and out of date
[09:37] <scientes> esp with LTS releases
[09:37] <scientes> lisa_, metacity --replace
[09:37] <rileyp> lisa alt+tab
[09:37] <Rejo> Seveas: So, the file is there, but it just doesn't seem to be recognized.
[09:37] <Seveas> Rejo, root-owned, mode 644?
[09:37] <scientes> lisa_, or if you can only get a terminal in a console (ctlr-alt-f1), DESKTOP=:0 metacity --replace
[09:37] <rizal> ......
[09:37] <lisa_> im installing nvidia drivers, maybe that will fix the Win key + W
[09:37] <Rejo> Seveas:
[09:38] <Crowler> Rejo shouldnt it be made executable?
[09:38] <lisa_> scientes, whats metacity --replace?
[09:38] <Rejo> Yes. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
[09:38] <spych102> lisa_, yes the nvidia drivers should do the trick
[09:38] <Rejo> Crowler: Nope.
[09:38] <rizal> ......
[09:38] <scientes> lisa_, if you window management crashes for some reason
[09:38] <Rejo> Crowler: Sure about that.
[09:38] <rizal> hay
[09:38] <Rejo> It's not a file that is executable, it's read by upstart proceses
[09:38] <lisa_> if ubuntu crashes and nothing seems to work.. instead of having to turn of laptop power button, what can I do?
[09:38] <scientes> lisa_, like if you cant select windows, but buttons still work, try either compiz --replace, or metacity --replace
[09:38] <Seveas> Rejo, all I can think of then is a syntax error. Didn't see one though. Anything in the logfiles after telinit q that indicates it has tried to read it?
[09:39] <rileyp> lisa ctrl+alt_f1
[09:39] <lisa_> scientes, but nothing works, frozen screen,  happened 3 times today
[09:39] <scientes> lisa_, you can go to console (ctrl-alt-f1) and /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[09:39] <lisa_> rileyp, ok ill try ctrl+alt_f1 if it happens again
[09:39] <Rejo> Seveas: Good thing.
[09:39] <Rejo> Mar 25 11:39:16 trillian init: /etc/init/etherpad-lite.conf:32: Unterminated quoted string
[09:39] <rileyp> lisa ctrl+alt+f1 sorry
[09:39] <Rejo> That is the problem most likely!
[09:39] <Seveas> Rejo, ah!
[09:39] <scientes> lisa_, can you paste lspci here paste.ubuntu.com
[09:39] <Rejo> Seveas: Thanks!
[09:39] <lisa_> rileyp, you said ctrl+alt_f1 :)
[09:40] <scientes> lisa_, &**output of "lspci" in console
[09:40] <oCean> Rejo: your author line misses the closing "
[09:40] <rileyp> lisa and the a sudo reboot should get you rolling again
[09:40] <Seveas> de nada. Glad I could do something for someone who's doing so much for us :)
[09:40] <scientes> nono, /etc/init.d/lightdm is enought for most crashes
[09:40] <lisa_> ok ubuntu says I need to restart tgo activate nvidia
[09:40] <lisa_> brb
[09:40] <rileyp> *the then
[09:40] <rizal> Ooo....
[09:40] <scientes> */etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[09:41] <rileyp> lisa you can do a alt + printscreen +k to restart the gdm
[09:41] <rileyp> lisa rather than a reboot
[09:41] <scientes> rileyp, no you cant
[09:41] <rizal> ......
[09:41] <bastidrazor> rizal: is the channel suppose to guess your question?
[09:41] <scientes> rileyp, that just triggers the OOM killer, its totally wrong to suggest that
[09:41] <rizal> bastidrazor : yes
[09:41] <scientes> rileyp, ctrl-alt-backspace use to work, but ubuntu doesn't enable that anymore
[09:41] <rileyp> oh ok i thought it restarted x
[09:42] <scientes> *ctrl-shift-backspace
[09:42] <bastidrazor> rizal: 23 is your answer. best of luck.
[09:42] <scientes> rileyp, i've been learning that that is a common misunderstanding, which is very unfourtunate
[09:42] <Rejo> oCean, Seveas: fixed the typo, still there is another problem, but i'll try to figure that one out myself - thanks for all the help
[09:42] <rileyp> good to learn these things!
[09:42] <rileyp> thnaks
[09:42]  * scientes will keep trying to undo that myth...
[09:42] <rizal> bastidrazor : can you help me!!!
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> soreau: i found a package for specific area recording
[09:43] <bastidrazor> rizal: state your question to the channel. if someone knows the solution they will answer
[09:43] <lisa_> i pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and got stuck, didnt know how to get out of it
[09:43] <scientes> the OOM killer generally kills firefox when it goes off on me....
[09:43] <Jordan_U> scientes: rileyp: alt+sysrq+k kills whatever is on the current VT. If X is on the current VT then X will be killed, returning you to GDM/LightDM/FooDM/.
[09:43] <lisa_> what am supposed to type in ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[09:43] <scientes> Jordan_U, that is TOTALLY wrong
[09:43] <rileyp> scientes: I used to use sudo service gdm restart is thre a new command I can use to stop start or restart the gdm (i use xfce4)
[09:44] <spych102> lisa_, try ctrl+alt+f7
[09:44] <rizal> bastidrazor : OK
[09:44] <scientes> rileyp, service lightdm restart
[09:44] <geek0091> trying to use an ubuntu server as gateway, unable to resolve hostnames when connected straight to modem?
[09:44] <lisa_> if my ubuntu freezes and i press ctrl+alt+f1 , what do I type?
[09:44] <geek0091> but can ping modem ip
[09:44] <scientes> geek0091, use pppoeconf package
[09:44] <rileyp> scientes:  can I use service lghtdm stop as well?
[09:44] <scientes> lisa_, you log in with your username and packge
[09:45] <JelloPop>  Wow what a night :)
[09:45] <lisa_> when I installed ubuntu I chose to encrypt HOME.  How can I double check that its actually encrypted?
[09:45] <Crowler> regardless of X, the video driver itself have to be loaded and started first
[09:45] <scientes> rileyp, yeah, its just that ubuntu switched from gdm to lightdm
[09:45] <lisa_> scientes, I did but it just went back to a CLI
[09:45] <geek0091> scientes: want to use raw /etc/network/interfaces config?
[09:45] <AlanBell> lisa_: log in as another user and try and peek in your home directory
[09:45] <Seveas> lisa_, create another user. Log out, log in as that user. Try to access *your* homedirectory
[09:45] <scientes> lisa_, "mount" command, will show ecryptfs, otherwise log in as root and check that way
[09:45] <scientes> geek0091, pppoeconf uses that
[09:45] <lisa_> im confused :P
[09:45] <Jordan_U> scientes: Why do you claim that it's wrong?
[09:45] <lisa_> scientes, ok brb
[09:45] <scientes> geek0091, it just helps autoconfigure interfaces
[09:46] <geek0091> scientes: is it in default install of server edit.?
[09:46] <scientes> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[09:46] <Seveas> lisa_, 'mount' should show a line like this: /home/dennis/.Private on /home/dennis type ecryptfs (ecryptfs_check_dev_ruid,ecryptfs_cipher=aes,ecryptfs_key_bytes=16,ecryptfs_unlink_sigs,ecryptfs_sig=...,ecryptfs_fnek_sig=...)
[09:46] <scientes> Jordan_U, oh sorry
[09:46] <rileyp> lisa you can use any command you want eg sudo reboot or sudo shutdown -h now or ls or cd or dmesg or whatever
[09:46] <Crowler> lisa_ hope you backed up all your stuff somewhere safe...
[09:46] <lisa_> Seveas, yes I see something like that
[09:47] <scientes> lisa_, then your stuff is encrypted
[09:47] <lisa_> Crowler, i only installed Ubuntu today so I got nothing on there really yet
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> whats the best gnucash alternative
[09:47] <scientes> lisa_, with ecryptfs
[09:47] <rileyp> scientes:  thanks fro the tip Ive wanted to know for quite a while...
[09:47] <scientes> lotuspsychje, gnucash
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> oO
[09:47] <lisa_> all i need now is to find a mulie tab text editor that supports colour text and bold etc
[09:47] <lisa_> multie
[09:47] <scientes> rileyp, REISUB, is there generally suggested order on hard lockup
[09:48] <scientes> ctrl-alt-sysrq-b is very useful
[09:48] <rizal> Im use linux gnacktrak, and wifi not support in my linux, can someone help me???
[09:48] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | rizal
[09:48] <JelloPop> lisa_: before u get to wild slow down and do clonezilla dont let people push u into a system crash!
[09:48] <Crowler> rizal install ubuntu
[09:48] <lisa_> can I convert rtf files to text files so I can try gedit?
[09:48] <scientes> rizal, pastebin lspci for me
[09:49] <lisa_> JelloPop, where I get clonezilla?
[09:49] <scientes> rizal, its probably that you are missing propritary broadcom drivers
[09:49] <Crowler> lisa_ you'll lose all formatting
[09:49] <lisa_> nviodia drivers are installed, i wonder if Window key + w will crash.. too scared to try hehe
[09:49] <scientes> lisa_, open rtf with LibreOffice
[09:50] <JelloPop> lisa_: wants to know how to back up system with clonzilla
[09:50] <scientes> lisa_, it wont crash now
[09:50] <lisa_> scientes, yes that works but LO dont support multie tabs
[09:50] <spych102> lisa_, fingers crossed...
[09:50] <scientes> lisa_, however with nvidia you loose the pretty ctrl-alt-f1-6 terminals
[09:50] <lisa_> scientes, maybe I can open rtf in LO and save as text?
[09:50] <scientes> (called Kernel Mode Setting KMS)
[09:50] <scientes> lisa_, hmmm, maybe, but don't you want the formattting?
[09:51] <JelloPop> lisa_: stop and ask how to back up system not push forward.. this could be a mess
[09:51] <scientes> lisa_, you might be interested in !lyx
[09:51] <Crowler> so many helpers...
[09:52] <Jordan_U> lisa_: You can use Libre Office to output to plain text, or use "unrtf".
[09:52] <scientes> Crowler, i guess its only like this (at all) on the weekend
[09:52] <scientes> ....
[09:52] <lisa_> does gedit support doc?
[09:52] <lisa_> JelloPop, ok
[09:52] <scientes> lisa_, gedit ONLY supports raw text
[09:52] <lisa_> JelloPop,how? :)
[09:52] <scientes> lisa_, and since .doc is a binary format, no
[09:52] <scientes> lisa_, but .doc is very supported by LibreOffice
[09:53] <lisa_> scientes, do you know any ubuntu text editor that supports multie tabs + colouring and bolding text?
[09:53] <lisa_> JelloPop, clonezilla is best to backupo my ubuntu?
[09:53] <sacarlson> scientes: lisa_: I know gedit supports bold text and I think different text sizes, not sure what format it supports
[09:54] <lisa_> sacarlson, can i colour text?
[09:54] <scientes> sacarlson, thats all about formatting flat source files, it doesn't read markup
[09:54] <sacarlson> lisa_: I'm not sure
[09:54] <hydrox24> lisa_: can I be bold and suggest something like VI/VIM? It has a huge learning curve though
[09:54] <hydrox24> *gvim* that is...
[09:54] <JelloPop> lisa_: here http://clonezilla.org/downloads.php
[09:54] <lisa_> JelloPop, ok thanks
[09:55] <lisa_> brb gone to backup :)
[09:55] <sacarlson> scientes: ya that markup thing is cool,  you might be right
[09:55] <arand> lisa_: No, I think it would be tricky to find an editor with tabs and in-format colouring, gedit can do syntax colouring, but the file is still plain text underneath.
[09:56] <scientes> again, try LyX
[09:56] <scientes> apt-get install lyx
[09:56] <JelloPop> Can anyone tell me why no one suggested backup fill system???
[09:56] <scientes> you will end up with the prettiest documents you have ever seen
[09:56] <lisa_> by the way , gedit doesnt do bold text
[09:56] <scientes> lisa_, ^
[09:56] <scientes> gedit is NOT the tool
[09:56] <lisa_> scientes, yep
[09:57] <karamba> my sound applet has bugged,now i cant change volume can someone help me?
[09:57] <scientes> LibreOffice is the standard WYSIWYG
[09:57] <scientes> and LyX is fundamentally differn't, buy way awesome
[09:57] <scientes> and i think makes more sense in most cases
[09:57] <lisa_> JelloPop, so I burn clonezilla onto CD and boot CD and backup ubuntu?
[09:57] <lisa_> scientes, i wish LibreOffice supported multi tab like gedit does
[09:58] <scientes> lisa_, what do you mean?
[09:58] <Crowler> karamba restart it. if it doesnt help, restart sound server. if still no luck - reboot
[09:58] <JelloPop> lisa_: or usb drive...
[09:58] <scientes> lisa_, you can set indentations with the stuff in the top ruler
[09:58] <scientes> lisa_, just like in Word
[09:58] <spych102> karamba, can you move the slider?
[09:58] <lisa_> scientes, multi tabs, i mean many different text files open at same time in different tabs
[09:58] <scientes> lisa_, ahhh, LyX supports that IIRC
[09:58] <lisa_> JelloPop, ok ty
[09:59] <lisa_> whats IIRC mean?
[09:59] <bunny69> how do you reverse mount --bind?
[09:59] <scientes> If I Recall Correctly
[09:59] <sacarlson> lisa_: I was wrong you can't even do bolt or change font size in gedit, it was all an elusion
[09:59] <lisa_> scientes, ah hehe
[09:59] <lisa_> sacarlson, :)
[09:59] <scientes> bunny69, mount --bind doesn't have a reverse
[09:59] <Crowler> lisa_ urbandictionary.com
[09:59] <lisa_> ill try Lyx, brb
[09:59] <scientes> bunny69, do you mean umount(1) ?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> !info lyx
[09:59] <Aster> Hi.
[10:00] <arand> bunny69: Just umount?
[10:00] <Aster> I'm having a problem with multiple screens.
[10:00] <Aster> I get this: http://imgur.com/qKXzt
[10:00] <Aster> And, I really don't know how to fix it.
[10:00] <scientes> Aster, thats because you have an old video card
[10:00] <scientes> prob ATI
[10:00] <Aster> I had it working under Windows (Eew.) But not under Ubuntu.
[10:00] <scientes> that only supports a certain max resolution
[10:00] <Aster> Nope.
[10:00] <sacarlson> bunny69: what does it mean to reverse mount --bind?
[10:01] <karamba> someone tell me how can i restart the sound applet to fix it
[10:01] <scientes> Aster, from what i've heard windows uses a hack to make it work
[10:01] <Aster> o.o
[10:01] <Aster> I would doubt that.
[10:01] <Aster> :P
[10:01] <scientes> oh wait, aS2
[10:01] <scientes> Aster, 1600 seems wrong
[10:01] <scientes> the 1600 x 1600 itsaws
[10:01] <Crowler> karamba exit it, or kill it, then start again
[10:01] <scientes> it would be somthing more binary, like 2048 or 4096
[10:02] <Aster> Well, my lappy screen is 1600*900 or 900*1600
[10:02] <scientes> apparently 2048 in this version
[10:02] <karamba> I dont know the name and the command
[10:02] <bunny69> scientes thank you... it was a simple umount in fact... i just forgot completely :(
[10:02] <Aster> And my second screen is 1024*1280
[10:02] <scientes> go get some more information Aster but i've heard of this problem before
[10:02] <scientes> on old ATI cards Aster
[10:02] <Aster> Well, this computer is a year old.
[10:02] <Crowler> karamba get yourself some sort of task manager
[10:02] <scientes> Aster, its the COMBINED resolution, of both monitors
[10:02] <scientes> Aster, well then probably not
[10:03] <Aster> scientes, how can I get more info?
[10:03] <scientes> Aster, what driver?
[10:03] <Crowler> karamba or man kill
[10:03] <Aster> How can I know what the drivers are?
[10:03] <scientes> Aster, lspci, pastebin it
[10:03] <scientes> Aster, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units
[10:03] <JelloPop> scientes: wont lspci -nn work?? for video car??
[10:03] <scientes> for example
[10:03] <Aster> scientes, I type "lspci" into terminal?
[10:04] <shalivan> quakenet
[10:04]  * Aster just saw his GPU has two additional drivers he hasn't installed yet.
[10:04] <spych102> karamba, unity --reset
[10:04] <spych102> it will take about 1 minute and look a bit weird at first
[10:05] <spych102> but it should do the trick
[10:05] <scientes> Aster, yes into terminal
[10:05] <soreau> Aster: Does it work if you use xrandr?
[10:06] <Aster> What's xrandr?
[10:07] <Aster> scientes, http://pastebin.com/HdbNc0pn
[10:07] <JelloPop> soreau: I thought that was for a single monitor??
[10:08] <karamba> I dont have sound manager how to fix this please give more detailed information
[10:08] <soreau> Aster: Can you pastebin the output of xrandr -q?
[10:08] <soreau> JelloPop: xrandr is for all outputs
[10:08] <JelloPop> soreau: this is a dual monitor setup!
[10:08] <lisa_> how big is Lyx? its takine ages
[10:08] <JelloPop> soreau: how does it read two monitors???
[10:09] <Aster> soreau, http://pastebin.com/3np80CCQ
[10:09] <lisa_> do I need Latex too?
[10:09] <scientes> lisa_, lyx will pull in latex, yes, and it is a bit big
[10:09] <soreau> Aster: You probably need to set a Virtual line in xorg.conf to increase the max size
[10:10] <JelloPop> soreau: pastebin explained that.. lol :)
[10:10] <Aster> soreau, how would I do that? Well, where can I find the file?
[10:10] <soreau> Aster: You're using fglrx?
[10:10] <rizal> http://punya-rizal.blogspot.com/
[10:10] <Aster> What's fglrx?
[10:10] <Aster> D:
[10:10] <lisa_> scientes, its huge, taking ages to dl
[10:10] <soreau> Aster: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0,og
[10:10] <soreau> Aster: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:11] <rileyp>  Jordan_U: scientes: rileyp: alt+sysrq+k kills whatever is on the current VT. If X is on the current VT then X will be killed, returning you to GDM/LightDM/FooDM/...................I dont have a sysrq button?
[10:11] <scientes> rileyp, sysrq is the print screen button
[10:11] <scientes> if its not labled bothwise
[10:11] <rileyp> ok i understand that
[10:11] <karamba> I have activated gnome-shell with --replace parameter, how to return to the previous window manager (im using 10.10 maverick meerkat)
[10:12] <scientes> karamba, unity --replace
[10:12] <Xabster> I installed wine and now my update manager won't allow the updates - what am I doing wrong?
[10:12] <JelloPop> soreau: I'm learning right now about xrandr and dual monitor setup...  earlier I used ~/.xproflie to edite a sign monitor setup not xorg.config
[10:12] <karamba> OMG i dont use unity!
[10:12] <rizal> http://punya-rizal.blogspot.com/
[10:12] <makoy08> how do i force center the window title while using close,minimize,maximize:menu in gconf? the window title looks off center on some themes.
[10:12] <scientes> karamba, wait, that might be compiz --replace, not sure, ok then metacity --replace---but the original one is dead
[10:13] <makoy08> i tried it on gconf/apps/metacity/general
[10:13] <scientes> karamba, and dont be so dramatic, i dont use unity either
[10:13] <JelloPop> soreau: lots of setup options for xorg.config.. how do u keep track?????
[10:13] <lisa_> how can I stop a current download and install?
[10:14] <lisa_> lyx is taking too long, must be 1GB in size? lol
[10:14] <rizal> http://punya-rizal.blogspot.com/
[10:14] <soreau> JelloPop: you can use 'man xorg.conf' or 'man <yourdriver>'
[10:14] <bastidrazor> rizal: stop
[10:14] <lisa_> scientes, do you know?
[10:14] <scientes> rizal, yeah that spam is not welcome here
[10:15] <Aster> soreau, http://pastebin.com/fsENvdwB
[10:15] <scientes> lisa_, yeah, if its still just downloading, ctrl-c
[10:15] <JelloPop> soreau: seems u have both a local level configuration file and a system wide configuration? will read xorg.conf
[10:15] <scientes> lisa_, but once it starts installing, dont abort it
[10:15] <rizal> hehe....
[10:15] <lisa_> scientes, it says "installing" so I better leave it, but why is installing taking so long?
[10:16] <Aster> And, Soreau, I am using fglrx
[10:16] <makoy08> how do i force center the window title while using close,minimize,maximize:menu in gconf? the window title looks off center on some themes.
[10:16] <scientes> lisa_, if the current line starts with Get:1 http://.... then its downloading
[10:16] <soreau> Aster: I see that, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:16] <karamba> problem with window manager solved just end gnome-session from the task manager
[10:17] <spych102> karamba, that is awesome
[10:17] <Aster> soreau, http://pastebin.com/7d4wkA8u
[10:17] <lisa_> I think the installing has frozen. what can I do scientes ?
[10:18] <scientes> lisa_, paste what is going on and i'll tell you
[10:18] <Crowler> lisa_ have a patience, hun. there was a dude not so long before you with grub loading 3min
[10:18] <rizal> http://punya-rizal.blogspot.com/
[10:18] <lisa_> it says Lyx and under Installing, but it's taking forever
[10:18] <scientes> rizal, WTF!!!!
[10:18] <lisa_> Crowler, lol
[10:19]  * lisa_ smacks rizal for being naughty
[10:19] <Ashish_> LIST
[10:19] <lisa_> ok ill bbl when its finished installing
[10:20] <soreau> Aster: hang on
[10:20] <Aster> Okay.
[10:21] <JelloPop> soreau: came across this article on config screen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution am I missing something or forget to read?????
[10:21] <spych102> sciente, dont be so dramatic
[10:22] <soreau> Aster: What is the output of 'lspci|grep VGA'?
[10:23] <scientes> soreau, http://pastebin.com/HdbNc0pn
[10:23] <Aster> "grep VGA" is being slow.
[10:23] <Aster> D:
[10:23] <soreau> Aster: lspci|grep VGA
[10:23] <scientes> aka 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Madison [AMD Radeon HD 5000M Series]
[10:23] <scientes> he posted it earlier
[10:24] <rileyp> scientes: rileyp, REISUB, is there generally suggested order on hard lockup .....thanks i just googled reisub great info to know!
[10:24] <Aster> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Madison [AMD Radeon HD 5000M Series] <-- Soreau
[10:25] <JelloPop> soreau: see I was nt wrong just different meathods... By session with .xprofile.
[10:25] <JelloPop> Dynamically by using XRandR tool
[10:25] <JelloPop> Statically by setting in xorg.conf.
[10:25] <JelloPop> XRandR GUIs (Graphical user interfaces). By session with .xprofile.
[10:25] <JelloPop> Dynamically by using XRandR tool
[10:25] <JelloPop> Statically by setting in xorg.conf.
[10:26] <Crowler> could put both k and b in one line...
[10:26] <soreau> Aster: Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make it look like this http://sprunge.us/KCcX then save it and restart X by logging out
[10:27] <Aster> soreau, I just replace the conf with that and restart my computer?
[10:27] <soreau> Aster: Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make it look like this http://sprunge.us/KCcX then save it and restart X by logging out
[10:28] <Aster> Okay.
[10:31] <lisa_> scientes, Lyx finally finished lol
[10:31] <Aster> Br relogging.
[10:31] <Aster> Brb*
[10:32] <lisa_> scientes, Lyx only open .lyx files :(
[10:33] <Crowler> lol
[10:34] <Crowler> lisa_ i told you, wine+msoffice
[10:34] <geek0091> hey. got dhcp3 setup for port eth1, eth0 is main for incoming connection as gateway, how would I get traffic from eth0 to eth1
[10:34] <geek0091> bridge I would assume?
[10:34] <scientes> Crowler, nonono, LibreOffice is great
[10:34] <WVM6> I need help with something...
[10:35] <AniMaLiToS_> guys can anyone help me to install loic in my ubuntu???
[10:35] <scientes> and can do what lisa wants to do
[10:35] <Onkeltem> "An error has occurred. Our engineers have been notified and we will work to fix this." - this is what I see at Ubuntu One. Any ideas wtf it wants?
[10:35] <scientes> however, lyx is pretty cool for what it does, most beautiful documents i've ever created was with LyX
[10:36] <WVM6> I installed Ubuntu and then updated a lot of stuff and then my display got weird
[10:36] <Crowler> geek0091 depends on if you want inet on gw too
[10:36] <scientes> "Our engineers have been notified and we will work to fix this." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[10:36] <WVM6> It is not filling my monitor. It is calling my display Laptop, which it's not.
[10:37] <scientes> i mean, its amazing how fast bugs get fixed in FOSS
[10:37] <scientes> including Ubuntu
[10:37] <WVM6> And I don't know what to do
[10:37] <Crowler> geek0091 bridge for no inet, routing for inet on both
[10:37] <scientes> but its certainly not a given
[10:38] <scientes> the genious, is that if you need to, you can always fix the problem yourself, which just isn't possible with other operating systems
[10:38] <spych102> WVM6, have you got 2 displays?
[10:38] <WVM6> No just one.
[10:38] <WVM6> Like I said, everything was fine when I installed, but updating stuff chagned something.
[10:38] <spych102> have you installed any new drivers?
[10:38] <geek0091> crowler: then routing i presume...any good starting place to figure out?
[10:39] <arunkumar413> hi, i want to make gnome 3 shell themes. can anybody tell me how to start
[10:39] <Crowler> geek0091 no. and i will not say "man route" either.
[10:40] <mernilio> Hi all! My name is merilio, i come from sweden, and hope we can get along in our ways.
[10:40] <WVM6> I went to the upper right button (not sure what it's technically called) and it said there were updates, so I got a lot of them. So yes, I probably did.
[10:40] <scientes> Crowler, try ip route first
[10:40] <bazhang> !ot | mernilio
[10:40] <WVM6> Hello! I want to go to Sweden...
[10:40] <mernilio> WVM6: no sexy chick for you tho!
[10:40] <bazhang> WVM6, lets stay on topic of ubuntu support
[10:40] <Crowler> geek0091 some ppl get concept of routing on the fly, some never get it
[10:40] <bazhang> mernilio, thats enough
[10:41] <WVM6> Spych102, you still there?
[10:41] <spych102> WVM6, yes
[10:41] <geek0091> crowler: I understand the concept, just the inpractice im stumbling my way through for the first time
[10:41] <scientes> geek0091, you probably need NAT, and to enable ip forwarding
[10:41] <mernilio> bazhang: its non topic, but they are everywere here.
[10:41] <spych102> WVM6, i'm thinking
[10:41] <WVM6> Thank you.   We dont have so many black woman here. So you really have to be carefull.
[10:44] <rileyp> mernilio do you need dome help
[10:44] <scientes> however, its pretty simple stuff
[10:45] <MobileAster> Soreau, I'm on my phone now, it just freezes on this screen: http://www.imgur.com/U4YYI.jpg
[10:45] <Douglas> rileyp hello
[10:45] <rileyp> hi
[10:45] <scientes> now, ipv4 exaustion causes so many damn problems
[10:45] <Douglas> i've downloaded the linux pen drive
[10:45] <mernilio> rileyp: acrually, no. i installed my first distro 1993.
[10:45] <Douglas> installed the lubuntu on the usb
[10:45] <Douglas> but when i plug it into my laptop, and reboot the PC, nothing happens
[10:45] <soreau> MobileAster: Can you boot in recovery mode?
[10:46] <MobileAster> I'll try.
[10:46] <scientes> mernilio, take your !ot somewhere else
[10:46] <rileyp> Doug how did you go installing?
[10:46] <Douglas> i just used the program
[10:46] <WVM6> spych102 I don't know if I have it on ubuntu
[10:46] <Douglas> you were right, it was really simple.
[10:46] <Douglas> 3-4 clicks
[10:46] <WVM6> nvm i found it
[10:47] <rileyp> doug you may need to open the bios boot menu to select boot from usb
[10:47] <spych102> ok
[10:47] <rileyp> douglas you may need to open the bios boot menu to select boot from usb
[10:47] <Douglas> okay
[10:47] <rileyp> brand of laptop please?
[10:47] <spych102> WVM6 when it opens go to display manager
[10:47] <MobileAster> Soreau, what do I do? "resume","fsck","remount","root"?
[10:48] <Douglas> acer 3810T i think
[10:48] <soreau> MobileAster: root prompt
[10:48] <Jemt> Hello. ALT + TAB gives me access to all my windows, no matter what workspace they are located at. How do I change it so that only the windows on the current workspace is shown ?
[10:48] <WVM6> I fixed it thanks spych102 :)
[10:48] <MobileAster> Soreau, now what?
[10:48] <Douglas> yeah that's the one.
[10:48] <MobileAster> It gave me root bash.
[10:48] <soreau> MobileAster: at the root prompt, open xorg.conf for editing# nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:48] <spych102> wvm6, that's great
[10:48] <WVM6> spych102: I slits the scaling bar to overscan. Thanks a lot!
[10:48] <WVM6> I completely forgot about that
[10:49] <WVM6> I had this problem when I reinstalled windows a little while ago.
[10:49] <MobileAster> Soreau, now what?
[10:49] <Douglas> rileyp, does it matter if the USB i have it on supports USB 2.0 or not? I'm 99 % certain that my USB does(but you never know, it's a generic one).
[10:49] <soreau> MobileAster: Then change the Virtual line values both to 1600, then save the file by doing Ctrl+X, Y and Enter
[10:50] <MobileAster> At the bottom is says " Read 12 Lines (warning : no write permission)" ,Soreau.
[10:50] <rileyp> douglas your laptop will set up to boot from the hard disk you ned to tell it to boot from usb  Im looking at the manual now
[10:51] <soreau> MobileAster: well that's strange..
[10:51] <spych102> wvm6, did actually help? LOL
[10:51] <Crowler> Douglas your usb port may sit on built-in extender, which prevents bios from detecting drive at boot time
[10:51] <soreau> MobileAster: Are you sure the file system isn't mounted ro? (read only)
[10:51] <shen-ninja> d
[10:51] <Douglas> okay and how do I see if it does?
[10:51] <Douglas> if there is even a way?
[10:52] <Crowler> Douglas try another port
[10:52] <c3sso> hello
[10:52] <soreau> MobileAster: Your prompt has a #?
[10:52] <MobileAster> Soreau, I don't see why it would.
[10:52] <Douglas> do you think there are differences between usb ports, no standardization?
[10:52] <MobileAster> It does.
[10:52] <c3sso> can somebody tell me in which package the file-open file-save dialog is?
[10:53] <soreau> MobileAster: If you're editing the file as root, it should let you unless the file system is read only
[10:53] <Crowler> Douglas drives connected via hubs usually cannot be detected by bios
[10:53] <geek0091> ok, still here scientest?
[10:53] <geek0091> or crowler?
[10:53] <MobileAster> Soreau, how would I have edited it if it were?
[10:53] <soreau> MobileAster: Check the output of 'mount'
[10:53] <Douglas> okay but what is a 'hub' in this case? can I see it or check for it somehow?
[10:53] <Crowler> geek0091 i am, but not sure if i can be of any help
[10:53] <soreau> MobileAster: See the one for '/' and the flags, rw, ro
[10:54] <geek0091> When having a dhcp server on eth1, requiring a nat translation with forwarding, and eth0 as the main interface connected to wan, wanting eth1 to be lan, how can I achieve this?
[10:54] <Crowler> Douglas no, theyre hardware transparent
[10:55] <ag71216> !ciao
[10:55] <ag71216> !
[10:55] <soreau> MobileAster: mount|grep " / "
[10:55] <Douglas> Crowler: so you mean that I can't really know in any way possible? No program etc?
[10:55] <Crowler> Douglas you cant
[10:55] <rileyp> douglas if you know how open your bios and change boot priority so that boot from usb is first in list
[10:57] <Douglas> i think i know how to enter bios
[10:58] <Douglas> appears to be F2 but i need to know if there's an extender to my USB as Crowley suggested but there's no way to know according to him
[10:58] <WVM6> spych102 yes you did help me thanks :)
[10:58] <spych102> wvm6, ok
[10:59] <MobileAster> Soreau, /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0)
[10:59] <Crowler> geek0091 you just have to assume what is what, limit dhcp to lan only and add proper lines to rounig tables on gw
[11:00] <soreau> MobileAster: I'm not sure why it wont let you save it then.. compare the output of 'groups' to 'ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf' maybe
[11:00] <geek0091> crowler: simply bridging instead
[11:00] <rileyp> Douglas enter bios and see if you can set it to boot from usb press f10 save and exit
[11:00] <c3sso>  can somebody tell me in which package the file-open file-save dialog is?
[11:00] <Douglas> rileyp what about this program?
[11:00] <Douglas> http://www.plop.at/en/ploplinux/intro.html
[11:00] <geek0091> crowler: its too late (7am) to deal with iptabled
[11:00] <soreau> MobileAster: or try 'login' then login as your normal user and use sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:01] <Crowler> geek0091 not iptables
[11:01] <geek0091> tables*
[11:01] <Crowler> geek0091 routing tables
[11:01] <rileyp> Douglas nothing will boot from usb until you tell it to boot from usb
[11:02] <MobileAster> Soreau, could you repeat that please?
[11:02] <soreau> MobileAster: or try 'login' then login as your normal user and use sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:02] <rileyp> Douglas on some laptops you can just pres escape just after it starts and a boot menu will appear
[11:03] <Douglas> alright ill try it in a second, antivirus is updating
[11:03] <rileyp> Douglas or on the bottom or top of screen it will say press f1 for boot menu del for bios or something else
[11:03] <soreau> MobileAster: If all else fails, you can move, rename or delete xorg.conf
[11:04] <rileyp> Douglas a 100 page post on your laptop has me worried it and linux are not best mates http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1165087
[11:05] <soreau> MobileAster: but you probably want to experiment with different values for the Virtual line to see what fglrx can handle. Or, remove fglrx and use the open radeon driver (the default when fglrx is not installed)
[11:05] <MobileAster> Soreau, I still can't edit the file.
[11:06] <soreau> MobileAster: that's really weird. maybe try from a live session
[11:07] <rileyp> Douglas you should be able to get the boot menu by pressing f12
[11:07] <Douglas> ive had ubuntu on yhis laptop before but via wubu
[11:07] <MobileAster> soreau, define live session?
[11:07] <Kotus> hello i'm running debian and would like to add deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian import to repositories, apt-get update asks for a key how can i automatically get it?
[11:07] <Douglas> it worked so-so, but there was not a big diff from my pc
[11:07] <soreau> MobileAster: like a live cd or flash drive
[11:08] <Douglas> rileyp: http://www.helpowl.com/p/Acer%20Computers/Aspire-3810T/Research/65465?search=aspire%203810t%20bios see page 27
[11:08] <MobileAster> Oh. Okay. So a USB key with Ubuntu on it?
[11:08] <soreau> MobileAster: from there you can access the mounted file system from disk and (hopefully) edit the file
[11:08] <LjL> Kotus: err, this is the Ubuntu channel, it's neither the Debian nor the Linux Mint channel...
[11:08] <oCean> Kotus: this is ubuntu support, ask in #debian channel
[11:08] <soreau> yes
[11:08] <MobileAster> Okay.
[11:10] <Douglas> okay rileyp im rebooting
[11:11] <rileyp> Douglas  F12 to change boot device and choose usb or you may have to choose hard disks and the add in cards or something like that
[11:12] <Jonii> Hello. How do you remove activity logs with Ubuntu 11.10, and preferably disable all sorts of spying and logging altogether
[11:14] <Jonii> There are some tools that supposedly are there to do this, say, activity log manager, which has this button "delete all activity history from this time range". Unfortunately, this button does nothing
[11:14] <Crowler> stop syslog service
[11:15] <ansi> hello, i am new to ubuntu.. just installed the 11.10 on my laptop
[11:15] <ansi> i need help with my wifi
[11:16] <ansi> i am new to ubuntu..i need help with my wifi ..broadcomm not detected
[11:17] <ansi> can someone help me??
[11:17] <Crowler> with "not detected"... i doubt
[11:17] <Jonii> Crowler: humm? How do you stop syslog service?
[11:17] <ansi> can someone help me??
[11:18] <Crowler> Jonii you learn it yourself, else you may end up with dead os pretty soon
[11:20] <ansi> i am new
[11:21] <Crowler> ansi how new exactly? to linux, i mean
[11:21] <ansi> today i installed ubuntu
[11:22] <geek0091> O.o
[11:22] <Crowler> is it your first?
[11:22] <ansi> yes sir
[11:22] <rileyp> ansi ask please
[11:22] <Crowler> can you open terminal and paste lspci output?
[11:22] <rileyp> asni quik i am impatient
[11:23] <ansi> pls wait
[11:23] <llutz_> Jonii: to decativate syslog would be nonsense, it logs system-events not user-activities
[11:23] <ansi> its huge
[11:23] <Jonii> llutz_: that's what I gathered too, thanks
[11:24] <Jonii> I was wondering how come that tip seemed like nonsense to me
[11:24] <rileyp> ansi what is huge
[11:24] <rileyp> ansi this is exciting
[11:25] <ansi> the output after lspci is very big
[11:25] <ansi> should i paste it here
[11:25] <rileyp> ansi pastebin
[11:25] <Yuni> http://punya-rizal.blogspot.com/
[11:25] <LjL> Yuni: don't spam please
[11:25] <Crowler> !pastebin
[11:26] <rileyp> ansi what would you like some help with
[11:26] <ansi> sir my wifi is not working on laptop
[11:26] <rileyp> ansi paste here http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:26] <Yuni> hehe...
[11:26] <rileyp> ansi laptop make and model
[11:26] <ansi> can u please get it working..i'll be greatful
[11:27] <Crowler> Jonii for paranoid setup, put your home on ramdisk
[11:27] <rileyp> ansi i can help maybe
[11:28] <Yuni> http://punya-rizal.blogspot.com/
[11:28] <llutz_> Yuni: Stop spamming
[11:28] <ansi> rileyp please tell me what to do sir
[11:29] <rileyp> ansi paste here http://paste.ubuntu.com the text output of lspci and dmesg
[11:31] <domidikt> hallo
[11:31] <rileyp> ansi your make and model of your pc will help a treat as your problem has already been solved by somewhere else
[11:32] <ansi> sir it is HP pavillion DV6 1152Tx
[11:32] <rileyp> ansi maybe solved....
[11:32] <ansi> sir paster lspci in the link u sent me
[11:32] <denysonique> I have one big partition /. If I run the Ubuntu installer and select the manual partitioning option to install the system on /, will my /home be safe which is on this partition?
[11:33] <Crowler> ansi we need link to that post
[11:33] <ansi> sir uname -a
[11:33] <ansi> Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:50:42 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[11:34] <domidikt> kann jemand deutsch???
[11:34] <llutz_> !de
[11:34] <llutz_> domidikt: ^^
[11:34] <ansi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/898989/
[11:34] <rileyp> ansi we need a link to your pasted files
[11:34] <rileyp> ansi lol
[11:35] <ansi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/898993/
[11:35] <ansi> sir lol.. :) did u get it
[11:36] <ansi> sirr.. did u get my link http://paste.ubuntu.com/898993/
[11:36] <Crowler> denysonique if you make fresh install of any os over any other os, all your stuff will go in nowhere
[11:37] <Crowler> denysonique resize your old / and free some space for ubuntu
[11:38] <denysonique> Crowler: with Gentoo it is not the case. Are you 100% sure that it will remove my /home?, I am not checking the 'format' checkbox.
[11:38] <ansi> rileyp http://paste.ubuntu.com/898993/ sir link for you
[11:38] <rileyp> ansi  your laptop has had in the past problems with wifi
[11:38] <AniMaLiToS_> guys plz help  to install loic in my ubuntu 10.10 someone
[11:38] <ansi> never sir.. i have a win 7.. it works perfectly there
[11:39] <rileyp> ansi a google seach tells me this
[11:39] <llutz_> denysonique: iirc the installer has an option to preserve an existing home-dir
[11:39] <Crowler> denysonique if i get it right, you going to install ubuntu into gentoo partition
[11:39] <denysonique> llutz_: it has an option not to format the partition
[11:39] <denysonique> which will do the job I guess
[11:39] <rileyp> ansi they are all dated around 2010 though so it may have been resolved
[11:39] <Oer> AniMaLiToS_, join #Backtrack-linux for hackingtools as Low Orbit Ion Cannon (LOIC)
[11:40] <llutz_> denysonique: i'd think so, but make sure to have a backup. just in case..
[11:40] <ansi> sir i dont know..may be the previous owner
[11:40] <cuddylier> Hi
[11:40] <rileyp> ansi problems with ubuntu sorry the hardware itself is fine
[11:41] <ansi> my wifi still dosent work in ubuntu but works fine in win 7
[11:41] <cuddylier> I was wondering how I add a user to the admin group on the commandline, e.g. starts with "passwd.."
[11:41] <llutz_> cuddylier: sudo adduser username admin
[11:41] <cuddylier> Does this make the user as well as put them in admin?
[11:41] <cuddylier> I already have the user created
[11:41] <llutz_> cuddylier: username has to exist
[11:41] <ansi> rileyp ..sir what must i do now?
[11:42] <cuddylier> Right, good.
[11:42] <rileyp> ansi go to the system menu and select hardware drivers
[11:42] <Jonii> Cool, found a way
[11:42] <rileyp> ansi it may be as simple as clicking a driver to install
[11:42] <Jonii> Deleted bunch of Zeitgeist-related files
[11:42] <rileyp> ansi it will be broadcom
[11:43] <ansi> sir..wow... i see in the Additional drivers 3 drivers .. one of them is Broadcom STA wireless driver
[11:43] <rileyp> ansi yes install it
[11:44] <ansi> oh no sir.. when i clicked on activate it says..Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[11:44] <ansi> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[11:44] <llutz_> Jonii: just purge all the zeitgeist stuff
[11:44] <Jonii> llutz_: do you need zeitgeist for anything?
[11:44] <llutz_> Jonii: _i_ don't use it at all
[11:44] <rileyp> ansi look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#HP%20Mini%201010nr
[11:45] <Jonii> But, like, could there be a program that depended on Zeitgeist in some weird way?
[11:45] <Jonii> That I needed
[11:45] <llutz_> Jonii: sudo aptitude purge '~nzeitgeist' -s            check what would happen
[11:45] <swamptin> Hey guys and gals, can anyone think of a reason why I can't SSH into my server account from a terminal on Ubuntu11.10 live cd?
[11:45] <ansi> sir what must i look for in the link u sent me
[11:47] <llutz_> swamptin: ssh -vvv userqhost              to get more verbose errors
[11:47] <ansi> rileyp.. sir what should i find there?
[11:47] <Crowler> swamptin look for answers in ssh server logs
[11:47] <llutz_> user@host*
[11:47] <Aster> soreau, I'm on live session.
[11:47] <Aster> It's still mounted as read-only.
[11:49] <ansi> rileyp .. sir what should i look there.. its all greek
[11:50] <swamptin> Hey lads, tried that -v and it connected me. Thanks :D
[11:50] <llutz_> swamptin: the "-v" surely wasn't the solution
[11:50] <swamptin> No it wasn't
[11:50] <ansi> rileyp ... Status??
[11:50] <rileyp> ansi the last post on this page https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/112604
[11:51] <swamptin> I don't know what the issue was, could have been an issue on my local router or something
[11:51] <cuddylier> If I use the root account, will it damage my computer?
[11:51] <cuddylier> I think it will be less hassle as it has all the permissions
[11:51] <chroot> hello, how can start a terminal using command?
[11:51] <llutz_> !sudo | cuddylier
[11:52] <llutz_> cuddylier: theres no reason to activate the root-account. if you need a root-shell, use sudo -i
[11:52] <cuddylier> I am logged onto the root account on my gui, but is it fine to just use the root account all the time?
[11:52] <cuddylier> It was activated by my host of my dedicated server
[11:52] <llutz_> cuddylier: real stupid idea
[11:52] <ikonia> cuddylier: not an ubuntu install then
[11:52] <cuddylier> My host installed ubuntu
[11:52] <ikonia> some bastardiszed ubuntu build
[11:52] <ikonia> cuddylier: is it a vps ?
[11:53] <cuddylier> Dedicated server
[11:53] <ikonia> cuddylier: so to get this clear, someone has put ubuntu with a desktop X11 install on a server, enabled the root account, enabled root login in the gui and then put it on the internet ?
[11:53] <llutz_> cuddylier: create a user, add him to admin-group. work as user, use sudo if you _really_ need root-rights
[11:53] <everythingWorks> how do i install the development tools?
[11:54] <everythingWorks> I didnt specify to install them on the dist installation.
[11:54] <cuddylier> I have the account "ryan" in the admin group, will I just use that?
[11:54] <ikonia> cuddylier: is the root account enabled in the desktop gui ?
[11:54] <cuddylier> Yes
[11:54] <ikonia> cuddylier: enjoy getting exploited then
[11:54] <cuddylier> I'm logged onto it right now
[11:54] <llutz_> everythingWorks: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:54] <cuddylier> I'm a n00b at ubuntu
[11:54] <cuddylier> Will I disable it?
[11:55] <Aster> soreau? You there?
[11:55] <everythingWorks> thanks :D
[11:57] <cuddylier> I logged out on my gui, how do I log in as the user "ryan" on the command line?
[11:57] <llutz_> cuddylier: are you sure you want to run a linux-server?
[11:57] <cuddylier> Well, I have no choice
[11:58] <cuddylier> I have to use linux
[11:58] <llutz_> !manual | cuddylier then take some time and learn some basics
[11:58] <cuddylier> I know that it's just the user account thing
[11:58] <cuddylier> I don't want to get exploited
[11:58] <cuddylier> I'm using xfce gui
[11:59] <cuddylier> How do I disable root then?
[12:00] <llutz_> cuddylier: sudo passwd -dl root
[12:00] <cuddylier> Actually, what is the command to install e.g. filezilla and firefox?
[12:00] <everythingWorks> Can I observe the stderr? Like this: tty1: "cat /dev/stderr" ; tt2: echo "myerror" > /dev/stderr
[12:00] <cuddylier> Okay, thanks
[12:00] <everythingWorks> then, i see the "myerror" message in tt1.
[12:00] <everythingWorks> (or should see ;) )
[12:00] <LjL> everythingWorks: no, not really... but by default, stderr just goes to the terminal output, so why do you need to jump through hoops to see it?
[12:01] <everythingWorks> LjL I want to view all messages sent to stderr globally :)
[12:02] <LjL> everythingWorks: hmm i don't think that can be done [easily]. maybe if you overwrote /dev/stderr with your custom FIFO...
[12:02] <llutz_> everythingWorks: that still needs any command redirecting stderr into your fifo
[12:03] <everythingWorks> okay
[12:04] <monser> hello , can you please tell me how to use LDFLAGS for compiling
[12:04] <monser> I have a library in my home directory
[12:04] <monser> it is compiled there
[12:04] <monser> and I want to use that library not the system one
[12:05] <monser> I think it si done with LDFLAGS
[12:07] <llutz_> monser: isn't it LDLIBS?
[12:08] <rileyp> ansi are you there
[12:12] <Scott_Z> I have a wifi card problem. Can anyone help?
[12:12] <rileyp> Scott_Z: maybe make model of laptop
[12:14] <Scott_Z> Dell Inspiron 1750 but I am using a USB Belkin card. It was working great (and working now on the windows site) but then I did the upgrade software in ubuntu and on a reboot it stopped working. The little light does not even come on. The usb port is fine as I plugged a thumb drive into it and it worked. When I look at the network connections under my belkin card it says that it was disabled by
[12:14] <Scott_Z> a hardware switch. Any ideas?
[12:15] <blah> does anyone know why a window would break apart when I use the scroll function on my mouse? I'm using an older version of xubuntu.
[12:15] <Scott_Z> site=side
[12:17] <sacarlson> Scott_Z: if upgrade changed your kernel might try reboot into the older one
[12:17] <Scott_Z> it did and i did try that
[12:18] <sacarlson> Scott_Z: other advice if it's not broke don't fix it.  (upgrades are not always a good thing)
[12:18] <blah> forget the wireless and use wired, problem solved
[12:18] <rileyp> Scott_Z:  reboot to the earlier kernel and see if it work
[12:19] <llutz_> Scott_Z: "rfkill list" does it show something "blocked"?
[12:19] <Scott_Z> tried older kernal. still not work
[12:19] <rileyp> lol im a bit slow wactjing tv at same time
[12:19] <Scott_Z> hehe
[12:20] <nekto> русские есть?
[12:20] <llutz_> !ru | nekto
[12:20] <Scott_Z> I am on the windows side of this right now I will have to write all the suggestions down, reboot to try them, then reboot again back into windows if things do not work to let you all know, so all the suggestions I could try at one time would be great.
[12:21] <Scott_Z> And I would gladly un-upgrade if it would fix things but I dont know how to do that.
[12:21] <blah> 1,517 people and no one knows how to fix a display problem?
[12:22] <sacarlson> Scott_Z: there are many steps but if you backed up to last kernel and still not working maybe rfkill ? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/rfkill.1.html
[12:22] <Scott_Z> they are all working on my network problem  :)
[12:22] <rileyp> blah what is your issue
[12:22] <blah> the scroll function scatters my display in xubuntu.
[12:22] <sacarlson> blah: I suck at displays sorry
[12:23] <cuddylier> How do I choose where filezilla downloads files to?
[12:23] <cuddylier> It is trying to create a root folder and it gets "Permission Denied"
[12:23] <rileyp> blay my display is 3m long and 1.7 high and runs at 1080p no overscan and im using xfce4 and it does not do that
[12:24] <share> !virus
[12:24] <rileyp> blah are you using nv drivers or ati or just the vesa
[12:25] <blah> rileyp- It's using an mga driver. The card is a Matrox Mystique II
[12:25] <rileyp> blah is it only in firefox or does it happen in other programs as well
[12:25] <blah> The on board display driver is also loaded(Intel 810). Conflicts maybe?
[12:26] <Scott_Z> when I looked at things it said that it was due to a hardware switch. I will try rfkill but the manpage says that if it is a hardware switch then this wont work. where can i look for a hardware switch?
[12:26] <sacarlson> cuddylier: filezilla has a client and a server I should infer that your problem is on the client?
[12:26] <cuddylier> Yes, the client
[12:26] <blah> It happens in file manager and web browsers.
[12:27] <rileyp> Scott_Z:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1836075 I know its not your and i dont think it will affect a usb one but make sure its enabled when you close windows
[12:27] <rileyp> perhaps
[12:29] <rileyp> blah:   do you have a special xorg.conf you have configured yourself?
[12:30] <monser> do you know how to compile when you are not a root?
[12:30] <Scott_Z> thanks for the link but my card does not have an on/off button.
[12:30] <Aster> Ugh.
[12:30] <Aster> Screw xorg.conf
[12:30] <sacarlson> cuddylier: I guess it' up to you in client as you decide what the local location is try /home/yourusername/downloads
[12:30] <Aster> I can't even boot into Ubuntu with that.
[12:31] <llutz_> !checkinstall | monser: ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[12:31] <Scott_Z> i am going to reboot and try rfkill. Ill be back and let ya all know. thanks
[12:31] <rileyp> Scott_Z:  i didnt think it did perhaps the onboard may work with the new kernel?
[12:31] <sacarlson> cuddylier: it defaults to local /  that requires root permition to access
[12:31] <blah> The xorg.conf is completely empty. Some websites suggested usig Xorg -configure. But, I don't see why this is necessary when it autodetects.
[12:31] <titan> hi! need help with bluetooth dongle on a lubuntu 11.10 desktop
[12:32] <onno_> hello, can somebody help me setup pxe to install ubuntu on old laptop. I understand this up to the network settings: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112209
[12:32] <tyhgu22> hello
[12:32] <sacarlson> blah: when I install my nvidia drivers to activate it creates an xorg.conf to overide the defaults
[12:33] <onno_> what should I do with this remark: Make sure you replace the ip addresses, netmasks etc with ones suitable for your network.
[12:33] <Aster> Can anyone help me mount a drive as read-write instead of read?
[12:33] <mman> im having problems with self signed certificate. I get (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer) insted of the common "this site is not secure but you can add a exception". how can i do it
[12:33] <Aster> This is the drive I need to mount: http://i.imgur.com/BUsEf.png
[12:34] <|Long|> hi, what is the cmd to switch drive?
[12:34] <sacarlson> onno_: it normaly defaults the netmask for you if not entered,  not sure what app is asking
[12:34] <blah> So placing Xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ will overide the autodetect no matter what?
[12:35] <monser> |Long|:  there is no such command
[12:35] <sacarlson> Aster: it shows it already mounted in /media
[12:35] <onno_> scarlson I'm simple following this howto ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112209
[12:35] <onno_> I want to install ubuntu on laptop without usb or cdrom
[12:35] <Aster> sacarlson, It's mounted as read-only
[12:35] <llutz_> Aster: "mount |grep 50c9"
[12:36] <Aster> llutz_, how does that make it r-w?
[12:36] <onno_> but I do somthing wrong. I think I don't understand what IP adresses I should enter. Espacialy the DNS adresses
[12:36] <sacarlson> Aster: ok umount and mount as rw
[12:36] <llutz_> Aster: it won't, just give the line it spits out here
[12:37] <monser> onno_:  you need to set up a server for pxe boot and connect your laptop to that server
[12:37] <titan> need help with a bluetooth dongle
[12:37] <onno_> monser: yes that is what I try
[12:37] <share> someone recall me what is the lightest ubuntu
[12:37] <share> lubuntu or xubuntu?
[12:38] <monser> lubuntu
[12:38] <titan> lubuntu
[12:38] <share> ok thanks
[12:39] <llutz_> Aster: so what's the output of that command?
[12:39] <Aster> Which command?
[12:39] <monser> is that command sufficient  to force using libpcap ? ./configure CPPFLAGS=-I/home/user/libpcap/include LDFLAGS=-L/home/user/libpcap
[12:39] <Aster> So many join/parts I can't read shit.
[12:39] <llutz_> Aster: "mount |grep 50c9"   watch your language
[12:40] <Aster> Well, I've been here for 5 hours.
[12:40] <pangolin> Aster, watch the language please and do /ignore JOIN PARTS QUITS
[12:40] <llutz_> monser: isn't it LDLIBS?
[12:40] <llutz_> Aster: other people are here for months, so what?
[12:40] <monser> ./configure --help does not give ldlibs as an option
[12:40] <Aster> Gives me this: /dev/sda5 on /media/6b32c4a9-9fb6-4530-8e8b-2d84859d50c9 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[12:40] <llutz_> Aster: so its rw, you need chown/chmod if you want to write as a user to theat filesystem
[12:41] <Xabster> pangolin, do you know the ignore command for xchat to ignore join/part/quit in a single channel only?
[12:41] <Scott_Z> the onboard it toast. thats why i have the usb card.
[12:41] <Aster> llutz_, but it tells me it's ro when I try to edit my xorg.conf
[12:41] <Scott_Z> here are the results
[12:41] <tmkt> Morning, any easy solution to sharing my linux lib with my iphone/ipad? it shows up fine in iTunes on my macbook
[12:42] <llutz_> Aster: ls -ld /media/6b32c4a9-9fb6-4530-8e8b-2d84859d50c9
[12:42] <pangolin> Xabster, I don't know the command for a single channel but you can right click on the channel name and ignore it there
[12:42] <llutz_> Aster: you need to use sudo to write to it
[12:42] <Jiff_> send me some files!
[12:42] <Xabster> ah, ok
[12:42] <ikonia> dvddecrypter
[12:42] <Xabster> thanks, that'll do
[12:42] <ikonia> oops
[12:42] <ikonia> Jiff_: what ?
[12:42] <Aster> llutz_, drwxr-xr-x 25 root root 4096 2012-03-17 10:41 /media/6b32c4a9-9fb6-4530-8e8b-2d84859d50c9 is the output of that
[12:42] <Scott_Z> rfkill says that the card is brcmwl-0 and in the soft block says no and the hard block says yes. I dont know how to turn that hard block off (no).. any other ideas?
[12:43] <llutz_> Aster: as i said: you need to use sudo to write to it
[12:43] <Aster> Okay.
[12:43] <Syria> Hello, Please tell me how to install KDE I am running my machine under ubuntu 11.10
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> Aster, Try sudo chown -R Aster:Aster /media/6b32c4a9-9fb6-4530-8e8b-2d84859d50c9  Where Aster is the username on your system.
[12:43] <ikonia> Syria: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[12:43] <llutz_> Aster: STOP
[12:44] <nahab> hallo again.... habe jetzt auf meinen toshiba tecra s1 1,7 Ghz und 1 GB Ram ubuntu 10.04 installiert, läuft auch ganz gut, frage ist nur, kann ich die Aktualisierungen  runter laden oder wirds damit wieder zu langsam?
[12:44] <llutz_> Aster: that filesystem is the root-fs of your linux-installation? then DO NOT USER chmod/chown
[12:44] <Syria> ikonia:  Thnx.
[12:44] <llutz_> !de | nahab
[12:44] <nekto> рус
[12:44] <Aster> llutz_, I wasn't.
[12:44] <llutz_> Aster: just to make sure you don't follow Sidewinder1 ;)
[12:44] <viktor> could somebody pls give me a hand setting up the radeon driver in oneiric? it should b installed, but doesn't seem to be working
[12:45] <llutz_> Aster: it would break your installation
[12:45] <Sidewinder1> llutz, Thought it was an ext. drive..
[12:45] <llutz_> Sidewinder1: that's whyt i thought first too, but it isn't ;)
[12:45] <nahab_> # ubuntu-de
[12:45] <titan_> still here and need help with a bluetooth dongle on lubuntu
[12:45] <nahab_> #ubuntu-de
[12:45] <llutz_> nahab_: /join #ubuntu-de
[12:46] <sacarlson> onno_: I've never used dnsmasq in my pxe that looks like it should work but this is my present method http://paste.ubuntu.com/899059/
[12:46] <Aster> llutz_, how would I go with this? I need to move a folder from my USB key (which is running the OS) to my HDD, which is mounted, how would I proceed?
[12:46] <llutz_> Aster: move or ccopy?
[12:46] <Sidewinder1> llutz, Aster I guess I wasn't following closely enough. Very, very sorry. A thousand pardons.
[12:46] <Aster> llutz_, I guess copy?
[12:47] <Aster> Sidewinder1, It's fine, I wasn't going to anyways. :P
[12:47] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[12:47] <llutz_> Aster: sudo cp -a /dir/t/copy /media/6b32c4a9-9fb6-4530-8e8b-2d84859d50c9/target/path
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> llutz, When you get a second, and just out of curiosity, what did I miss?
[12:48] <iman> hi
[12:48] <llutz_> Sidewinder1: he was trying to edit his xorg.conf, which makes no sense on a plain ext hdd
[12:49] <Sidewinder1> ??
[12:49] <Sidewinder1> Thanx,.
[12:49] <himsin> Hi, I am on ubuntu 10.10. .jnlp application on my pc run terribly slow , they used to work fine a month ago. I tried reinstalling java but it didn't work
[12:49] <karamba> wats`up glue huffers :D
[12:50] <ikonia> karamba: please stop - you've been told what this channel is for
[12:50] <llutz_> don't argue every day, kick (sry)
[12:50] <lostvoices> hi guys, i'm trying to get eclipse installed and follow a tutorial so that i can learn android development. whenever i install eclipse and launch it i get "invalid configuration location: and it's forced to close... anyone know how to fix this?
[12:52] <Spammer> http://punya-rizal.blogspot.com/
[12:52] <llutz_> Aster: if you feel better using a gui: "gksudo nautilus" and then do your file-copy.
[12:52] <Aster> Thanks much, llutz_
[12:52] <Aster> Naw, I hate guis.
[12:52] <Aster> :D
[12:52] <llutz_> Aster: ok
[12:52] <Aster> And it worked.
[12:52] <Aster> So thanks!
[12:53] <viktor> my video driver doesn't work, definitively installed, not sure what the problem is. can anybody help?
[12:58] <viktor> i got a radeon driver, but it's not set up / configured, or doesn't work, display is unclaimed. where can i fix that?
[12:59] <ljt> viktor: please run lspci -v in a terminal, and post the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:00] <scott_z> problem solved.. anyone want to know how?
[13:00] <sacarlson> scott_z: ya me
[13:01] <scott_z> I started by reading this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1745681
[13:01] <viktor> ljt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/899078/
[13:01] <scott_z> the problem seemed to be with the dell wifi card (which i wasnt using anyway as I have a usb card)
[13:01] <scott_z> so I yanked the dell card out and bingo....
[13:02] <scott_z> so simple
[13:02] <scott_z> there seems to be a driver support issue with the dell card. alot of people are having it.
[13:02] <ljt> viktor: you did restart your system after installation, right?
[13:02] <sacarlson> scott_z: why would you have a usb wifi installed if you didn't use it?
[13:03] <dougwiser> whats with the new desktop stuff in oneirc
[13:03] <scott_z> i use the usb. i was not using the onboard dell card
[13:03] <scott_z> i yanked the onboard card out
[13:03] <viktor> ljt, it was already installed, but i did did reboot after trying to install, also purged the fglrx driver that wasn't working
[13:04] <sacarlson> scott_z: oh onboard as you disabled in bios then
[13:04] <viktor> ljt, i did add "nomodeset" to the grub, can that be related to the issue?
[13:04] <scott_z> from opening and closing the laptop the wires for the onboard card that went to the antenna where cut. it was cheaper to buy a usb card than to replace the wires.
[13:04] <scott_z> not diabled, physically removed it!
[13:05] <sacarlson> scott_z:  on board must mean pcmci card then
[13:06] <scott_z> I had to take the access panel off , remove 2 screws and pull it out of the slot.
[13:06] <sacarlson> scott_z: oh you could have just disabled it but that also works
[13:06] <scott_z> i was tired of messing around, when i do it i go all out
[13:07] <scott_z> funny thing though, now when i do an rfkill list there is nothing in that list. it does not seem to see my usb wifi.
[13:08] <sacarlson> scott_z: no I think rfkill is only supported in onboard devices
[13:08] <scott_z> did not even thing of the bios.. silly me
[13:08] <scott_z> it is so nice to be back online in linux, windows sux. Wish i could get rid of it all together.
[13:09] <decksmasher> hi all
[13:09] <scott_z> anyone know how to mount an iso image?
[13:09] <ikonia> mount -o loop file.iso mountpoint
[13:09] <synergizm> hey, im pretty new to ubuntu so here comes a nooby question: i have deactivated the pointer acceleration using the terminal. (xinput ...) now i was wondering how i could make ubuntu use those commands at startup. im using 11.10. alrdy tried just putting the command into a text file and adding this to the startupapplications. so far it doesnt work :(
[13:10] <decksmasher> download iso burn it to cd with iso burner make sure pc boots fronm cd put it in and wait for the magic to happen
[13:10] <timoharling> hello everyone
[13:11] <scott_z> dont want to burn it. but thanks, i will try what ikonia suggested.
[13:11] <timoharling> what are the best apps for IT admins?
[13:12] <auronandace> timoharling: that is a vague and broad question
[13:12] <synergizm> so in essence my question: how to make ubuntu run commands at startup ^^
[13:13] <auronandace> !upstart | synergizm
[13:13] <timoharling> ok nevermind
[13:13] <viktor> ljt, maybe this is relevant? kms is disabled, and radeon seems to be initialized
[13:14] <viktor> ljt, srry, forgot to paste what might be relevant http://paste.ubuntu.com/899095/
[13:14] <synergizm> auronandace: i rly have to install sth for that? i mean i just wanna remove pointeracceleration.. its just 2 lines in the terminal
[13:15] <timoharling> whats the best rdp
[13:15] <auronandace> synergizm: upstart is what ubuntu already uses, you don't need to install anything
[13:17] <timoharling> I just made ubuntu the only OS on my macbook!
[13:17] <auronandace> synergizm: when you say you put the commands in a text file, did you make it a script? did you make it executable too?
[13:17] <synergizm> auronandace: nope and nope :S
[13:18] <viktor> ljt, are you still there?
[13:18] <synergizm> auronandace: do i have to configure upstart using the terminal?
[13:18] <auronandace> synergizm: startup applications isn't going to know what to do with a text file
[13:19] <synergizm> auronandace: yeah kinda figured it might not ^^
[13:19] <timoharling> whats the best remote desktop viewer guys?
[13:19] <synergizm> auronandace: so how do i make it a skript and executable? btw startup application part of upstart?
[13:19] <auronandace> synergizm: i must admit i don't know much about upstart (aside from the fact that ubuntu uses it and it is different to sysv init)
[13:20] <auronandace> synergizm: you need the shebang at the top of the text file #/usr/bin/bash (or something like that)
[13:20] <ljt> viktor: yes sorry, nomodeset is often the preferred option but if you haven't already - perhaps try without it
[13:20] <auronandace> synergizm: then you need to chmod +x the text file
[13:21] <ljt> viktor: also, have you used this card with ubuntu before? (and had it working?)
[13:22] <timoharling> wow thanks for the help guys
[13:22] <synergizm> auronandace: cant fins usr/bin/bash
[13:22] <synergizm> *d
[13:22] <auronandace> synergizm: sorry, the shebang is #! /bin/bash
[13:23] <viktor> ljt, i've had difficulties with lucid as well (using oneiric now) it only worked reasonably well under hardy (proprietary driver). You mean boot without nomodeset? i can't, nothing but black screen if i do..
[13:24] <timoharling> it was stupid of me to think a chat channel about ubuntu would have nice people that would help
[13:24] <ikonia> timoharling: you need to ask questions to get help
[13:24] <ikonia> timoharling: you also need to do it without attitude,
[13:24] <ljt> viktor: right ok, check this out if you haven't already: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20%20Need%20to%20fully%20remove%20-fglrx%20and%20reinstall%20-ati%20from%20scratch
[13:24] <timoharling> i did it 5 times without attitude
[13:25] <ikonia> timoharling: what is the question ?
[13:25] <auronandace> timoharling: i use teamviewer (not open source though)
[13:25] <timoharling> i need a good remote desktop program
[13:25] <synergizm> auronandace: found it but im to stupid to open it 0_o shouldnt gedit be able to ?
[13:25] <ikonia> timoharling: ok - are you connecting to ?
[13:26] <auronandace> synergizm: open what? you add #! /bin/bash to the top of your text file to make it a bash script
[13:26] <timoharling> to windows servers and collation servers
[13:26] <ikonia> timoharling: there is an rdp application
[13:26] <ikonia> timoharling: that way you don't have to use a non-native windows application on the servers to connect to
[13:26] <synergizm> auronandace: ahh allright "#! /bin/bash" like that?
[13:27] <auronandace> synergizm: yes (obviously no quotes when you write it in the file)
[13:27] <viktor> ljt, i have :) exept, i think, for the "more aggresive" recipe that purges both driver instead for just the amd catalyst unthing.
[13:27] <auronandace> synergizm: it should always be the top line on its own
[13:28] <iLogical> I am getting this error, any ideas?
[13:28] <iLogical> http://pastebin.com/4RmaEWNA
[13:28] <synergizm> auronandace: allright ty so far gonna try it out now :)
[13:28] <timoharling> im an IT tech and i know how to do this in windows but i really want to learn how to replace my windows work machine with ubuntu but i need to figure out was to accomplish  the usual things i do with my windows machine
[13:28] <ikonia> timoharling: ok, so what's the problem ?
[13:28] <auronandace> synergizm: after you done that and saved it then you need to make it executable
[13:29] <auronandace> synergizm: open a terminal where you have the file stored then do: chmod +x nameoffile
[13:29] <raven> do you know any tool similar to "mairlist" for virtual radio studio?
[13:30] <synergizm> auronandace: i activated executable in the properties should do the same?
[13:30] <timoharling> vmware and cisco
[13:30] <auronandace> synergizm: yes
[13:30] <dougwiser> seems to me that wanting a linux machine to do everything a windows machine does would be kind of limiting
[13:31] <synergizm> auronandace: brb reboot ty!!
[13:31] <auronandace> synergizm: no worries :)
[13:34] <daviddd> IV'E JUST INSTALLED UBUNTU ON MY MACBOOK PRO
[13:34] <ikonia> daviddd: o ?
[13:34] <ikonia> ok
[13:34] <dougwiser> ok who has a link to lay out the subtle differences in this oneirc from all the previous desktops
[13:34] <auronandace> !caps | daviddd
[13:34] <daviddd> sorry
[13:35] <titan_> need help with a usb bluetooth dongle on lubuntu
[13:35] <daviddd> can someone give me some cool commands to do in terminal?
[13:35] <auronandace> daviddd: define cool
[13:35] <synergizm> auronandace: worked thx again ^^
[13:35] <auronandace> daviddd: i'm sure the guys at #bash can help you get to grips
[13:35] <daviddd> somekind of "hack-commands"
[13:36] <auronandace> !yay | synergizm
[13:36] <ljt> viktor: sorry I'm not sure how much more I can help, I'm no expert in this area and drawing a blank atm
[13:36] <ikonia> daviddd: no
[13:36] <ikonia> daviddd: tell us what you want to do - and we'll help you
[13:36] <ikonia> daviddd: asking for random commands is just a waste of time
[13:37] <auronandace> daviddd: hack? you want to learn how to program? if so pick up a programming language and get coding
[13:37] <dougwiser> I can't hardly even switch between windows in oneirc
[13:37] <daviddd> yeah, I know. I have time.
[13:37] <ikonia> daviddd: ok, well we can't help then
[13:37] <ikonia> daviddd: however reading https://help.ubuntu.com will give you an introduction into the basics of using ubuntu
[13:37] <viktor> ljt, no prob, one more thing though, apt-get recommends that i install additional package "linux-firmware", but it has no installation candidate, if i google for repo i get dell sites. so you think it's just useful for dell, and how do i get the repo?
[13:37] <daviddd> thanks!
[13:38] <daviddd> so what do you guys talking about in this room?
[13:38] <auronandace> dougwiser: i take it you are using unity?
[13:38] <raven> do you know any tool similar to "mairlist" for virtual radio studio?
[13:38] <ikonia> daviddd: this channel is for ubuntu technical support
[13:38] <daviddd> i should leave
[13:38] <dougwiser> I have no idea I just did the default install of 11/10
[13:38] <auronandace> daviddd: this is where you get help or help others with ubuntu
[13:39] <auronandace> dougwiser: ah yes, that would be unity, i use xfce instead
[13:39] <dougwiser> seems to run great and all the hard ware is recognized but navigating this stuff
[13:39] <auronandace> !unity | dougwiser
[13:39] <dougwiser> thanks auronandace
[13:39] <auronandace> dougwiser: no worries :)
[13:40] <dougwiser> I was really enjoying the gnome desktop with compiz fusion in my last install
[13:40] <dougwiser> but i wanna find out how this is posed to really work before I go ballistic on it
[13:40] <remoteCTRL> can you please helop me with my pesky "connection to the imput service timed out" problem when attempting to connect an already paired bluetooth mouse or keyboard?
[13:40] <rileyp> dougwiser:  is this usb stick doug
[13:41] <raven> do you know any tool similar to "mairlist" for virtual radio studio?
[13:41] <auronandace> dougwiser: good that you are openminded, unity isn't my taste, i hope it works for you though
[13:41] <blah> I swapped the xorg.conf with the xorg.conf I used in RedHat 9. It worked like a charm. Thanks again rileyp.
[13:42] <rileyp> blah lol i didnt do anything
[13:42] <rileyp> blah just sugested
[13:42] <blah> Either way it helped, lol
[13:42] <rileyp> cool
[13:42] <rileyp> glad i could help
[13:43] <remoteCTRL> viktor: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[13:43] <decksmasher> hi does anybody now how to change the theme in irssi please
[13:44] <viktor> remoteCTRL oneiric
[13:44] <remoteCTRL> viktor: what does sudo apt-cache search linux-firmware return?
[13:44] <samuel> hello. Can someone tell me what is the chanel in Spanish? Sorry for my english
[13:44] <remoteCTRL> !es
[13:44] <__Alex_> decksmasher: Visit theyr web site. I use it, and i remember seeing a guide there.
[13:44] <synergizm> next questions how can i put the taskbar on the bottom of the screen?
[13:45] <remoteCTRL> synergizm: unity?
[13:45] <ljt> viktor: I believe that linux-firmware is required for certain ati drivers
[13:45] <samuel> ok, thanks a lot
[13:45] <synergizm> remoteCTRL: yap
[13:45] <auronandace> synergizm: it isn't supported in unity, there is a hacky ppa to do it but it will likely break stuff
[13:45] <remoteCTRL> synergizm: sorry but you cannot...
[13:45] <DuctTaprandRape> ckServ IDENTIFY 8dazman
[13:45] <ljt> viktor: it should be available in all versions of ubuntu from lucid onwards
[13:46] <ljt> viktor: however in the multiverse repo
[13:46] <ljt> non-free
[13:46] <synergizm> hm k it kinda fucks up with compiz... right now it doesnt disappear when im not using it :/
[13:46] <__Alex_> decksmasher: http://irssi.org/themes
[13:46] <remoteCTRL> synergizm: that is a setting that you can change according to your needs
[13:46] <viktor> ljt, necessary for proprietary or open source?
[13:47] <synergizm> remoteCTRL: where ? ^^
[13:47] <dougwiser> rileyp: I have used a usb stick or three
[13:47] <remoteCTRL> viktor: it is mainly for wifi cards and alike
[13:47] <remoteCTRL> synergizm: can you find the system settings dialog?
[13:47] <synergizm> remoteCTRL: yeah
[13:48] <remoteCTRL> synergizm: then open your eyes dude, you basically cannot overlook it;)
[13:48] <rileyp> dougwiser:  i helped a douglas earlier today its not you ?
[13:48] <ljt> viktor: I'm not sure - it doesn't specify but read this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/894693
[13:48] <synergizm> remoteCTRL: hmmm :/ i must be blind... u mean just clicking on system settings in the taskbar right? :D
[13:49] <viktor> remoteCTRL, srry for the delay, paste.bin wouldn't open http://paste.ubuntu.com/899138/
[13:49] <remoteCTRL> synergizm: nope, on the right upper corner of your screen there's the button that you normally click when you're looking to shutdown your computer, there is a menu item in there system settings, in there again you can configure unity, and there you have it on the very first page
[13:50] <remoteCTRL> viktor: there you are! so it is there, what does dpkg -l linux-firmware return?
[13:50] <dougwiser> no rileyp my first time intoday
[13:51] <synergizm> remoteCTRL: that opens exactly the same dialogue ...personal, hardware ....
[13:51] <viktor> ljt, can they make the names more confusing :p ?
[13:51] <remoteCTRL> synergizm: maybe, i dunno precisely...:)
[13:51] <mskazmii> can someone please help me with citadel? I installed it yesterday but when I go to acess the admin page it says cannot connect or keep connected.
[13:52] <mskazmii> can someone please help me with citadel? I installed it yesterday but when I go to acess the admin page it says cannot connect or keep connected.
[13:52] <synergizm> remoteCTRL: only thing that sounds related to me is appearance but there i can only change the backround and the theme used nothing else
[13:52] <remoteCTRL> mskazmii: we read youn te first time
[13:52] <viktor> ljt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/899141/
[13:53] <auronandace> synergizm: unity isn't very configurable, do you have ccsm installed?
[13:53] <remoteCTRL> synergizm: not what i meant, there is a menu item unity, or configure unity or so
[13:53] <mkazmi> can someone please help me with citadel? I installed it yesterday but when I go to acess the admin page it says cannot connect or keep connected.
[13:53] <synergizm> auronandace: yes
[13:53] <remoteCTRL> synergizm: geez, wait a minute...
[13:53] <remoteCTRL> synergizm: got ccsm installed?
[13:53] <viktor> ljt, according to apt-get linux-firmware is already the newest version
[13:53] <synergizm> remoteCTRL: yes
[13:53] <remoteCTRL> open it, it is in there, i was mistaken, sorry
[13:54] <mkazmi> what u mean?
[13:54] <StevenCodes22> I know it's off topic but I'm in real need of a webhost preferably local someone I can work with
[13:54] <LjL> StevenCodes22: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:54] <StevenCodes22> gotcha
[13:55] <remoteCTRL> mkazmi: i mean, please dont repeat your question every half minute, if nobody ansewers, nobody knows an answer and it is no use spamming the channel in such a case :)
[13:55] <mkazmi> remotectrl. I heard you you the first time you do not have to repeat.
[13:55] <htmlgifted> hello
[13:56] <auronandace> mkazmi: you asked for an explaination, he didn't repeat
[13:56] <remoteCTRL> (03:54:08 PM) mkazmi: what u mean? what was that then?
[13:56] <htmlgifted> this is my first time using irc chat... looks pretty cool..
[13:57] <synergizm> and where in ccsm can i find that option? (how to make the taskbar disapear)
[13:57] <auronandace> htmlgifted: welcome, if you need help with irc basics feel free to /join #freenode and ask there
[13:57] <dougwiser> irc has been a favorite diversion of mine for about 17 years
[13:57] <ozpy> hi. I ran an update on Ubuntu 12.04 and now I can only run it on guess session
[13:57] <mkazmi> remotectel This is what you wrote and I asked what you mean on this line you wrote"open it, it is in there, i was mistaken, sorry"
[13:57] <auronandace> !12.04 | ozpy
[13:57] <viktor> remoteCTRL, according to apt-get linux-firmware is already the newest version
[13:57] <htmlgifted> thanks...
[13:57] <knoppix> tutto in inglese
[13:58] <LjL> !it | knoppix
[13:58] <ozpy> Ubottu: how to koin that channel?
[13:58] <htmlgifted> ozpy ...lol
[13:58] <knoppix> grazie
[13:58] <remoteCTRL> viktor: there you go, so no worries, right?
[13:58] <auronandace> ozpy: /join#ubuntu+1
[13:58] <ozpy> ok.
[13:58] <ozpy> let me try
[13:59] <remoteCTRL> mkazmi: i was talking to somebody else
[13:59] <viktor> remoteCTRL, but i've had it all along, and the driver doesn't work ?...
[13:59] <mkazmi> I figured now.
[13:59] <ozpy> auronandace: I can
[13:59] <robin0800> synergizm: there are three tools at least gnome-tweak-tool , ubuntu-tweak & myunity all for unity
[13:59] <ozpy> can't seem to figure out how to do so
[14:00] <remoteCTRL> viktor: ati that was?
[14:00] <Galaxor> In the last couple days, if I try to apt-get install something, it keeps on saying that I have to install it without verification.  What's up with that?  Do I have the wrong signing key or something?
[14:00] <viktor> remoteCTRL that too, i meant the linux-firmware package
[14:01] <auronandace> ozpy: where you are typing what to say to people you just type this instead: /join #ubuntu+1
[14:01] <remoteCTRL> viktor: ok, i only kjust entered, what exactly is actually your problem?
[14:02] <htmlgifted> can some one help me figure somethign out I wanted to connect to a channel i found but when i add to the channel list and hit connect it tells me the channel can't be found any one know this channel.  irc.80h.org
[14:02] <remoteCTRL> Galaxor: done sudo apt-get update?
[14:02] <auronandace> htmlgifted: that is a server, not a channel
[14:02] <htmlgifted> ah.. ok thanks
[14:02] <remoteCTRL> htmlgifted: that is not a channel but a server
[14:02] <savage> htmlgifted: what client are you using?
[14:02] <rileyp> htmlgifted: you need to put a # in front
[14:02] <viktor> remoteCTRL, my radeon driver for my ati Xpress 200M (RS400 for ubuntu) doesn't work, the missing firmware could of been the problem, but it wasn't missing after all
[14:02] <htmlgifted> example.?
[14:03] <savage> do you use mIRC?
[14:03] <remoteCTRL> viktor: how did you get to the conclusion with the missing firmware?
[14:03] <htmlgifted> xchat i think.
[14:03] <savage> htmlgifted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[14:04] <savage> check out the section "Configuring XChat & connecting to a server"
[14:04] <rileyp>  eg /join #ubuntu
[14:04] <raven> do you know any tool similar to "mairlist" for virtual radio studio?
[14:04] <remoteCTRL> htmlgifted: and then do yourself the favour and use pidgin instead:)
[14:04] <htmlgifted> lol. i have pidgin but wanted to see what all the fuse was about with irc.
[14:05] <viktor> apt-get recommended firmware-linux to install when installing *forgot* en tjl pointed out this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/894693
[14:05] <rileyp> remoteCTRL:  im using pidgeon but notice you cannot hit the up arrow to repeat text its annoying
[14:05] <htmlgifted> brb.
[14:06] <rhin0> rileyp noticed that  -- does xchat have it
[14:06] <auronandace> rhin0: yes
[14:06] <rileyp> you can in xchat and highlight text then paste by hitting mousewheel
[14:06] <sidvee> How to update to the new unity?
[14:06] <rileyp> Rhin0 yes it does
[14:07] <auronandace> sidvee: you are meant to stick with whatever unity is in the repo
[14:07] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: that is indeed true, but it is a multi protocol hybrid, that in contrary to empathy supports irc and it has otr support whcih is really mission critical to me
[14:07] <htmlgifted> back
[14:07] <rileyp> rhin0 xchat does
[14:07] <rhin0> ok
[14:07] <viktor> remoteCTRL, did you get that last msg? i forgot to adress you
[14:07] <remoteCTRL> viktor: well basically you have it installed, it ships with ubuntu, so no need to change anything there, if your ati drivers are not working the problem is homed else where
[14:08] <sidvee> auronandace: Then how am I supposed to get unity 3.5? What unity am running on now?
[14:08] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: why not bitchx? :D
[14:08] <htmlgifted> does any one in here watch criminal minds... i want to set up my machine so it can search and display results from the command line is this possiable.?
[14:08] <auronandace> sidvee: so idea sorry, i don't use unity
[14:08] <auronandace> no idea
[14:08] <sidvee> auronandace: No issues! :)
[14:09] <auronandace> remoteCTRL: bitchx is no longer maintained
[14:09] <remoteCTRL> auronandace: aaaaw, what a pitty! :D
[14:09] <remoteCTRL> sidvee: dpkg -l unity tells you what version
[14:09] <decksmasher> set theme cyanic
[14:09] <htmlgifted> guess not.
[14:10] <htmlgifted> ??
[14:10] <auronandace> htmlgifted: search and display results from commandline?
[14:10] <rileyp> remoteCTRL: I dont know what it is....
[14:10] <remoteCTRL> htmlgifted: what exactly do you mean by search and disply results, like the "find" and the "locate" commands?
[14:10] <Galaxor> remoteCTRL: I apt-get updated a couple days ago, and was still getting this problem even after that.  I'm updating again right now.
[14:11] <viktor> remoteCTRL, tjl, can i have you opinion about this pls? can it mean that fglrx wasn't properly deleted / purged?
[14:11] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: it is a predeluvian cli based irc client
[14:11] <viktor> remoteCTRL tjl http://paste.ubuntu.com/899159/
[14:11] <kapz> Hi all! I am trying to print from a WinXP virtual Machine that I've stup on Ubuntu 11.10 but the printer stat in Xp shows : Access Denied, Unable to connect, I have referred the NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu page but with no luck, help
[14:11] <rileyp> htmlgifted yes of course locate find etc
[14:11] <Layke> How would you try and fix this, trying to do a dpkg -i install of a package. http://pastie.org/3666032
[14:11] <Galaxor> remoteCTRL: It'll take me a little bit of time to update, since I'm apparently getting about 0.00001 kbit/hr right now.
[14:11] <remoteCTRL> Galaxor: i have not said to update your system, i said to enter the command sudo apt-get update into a commandline, whcihc is NOT the same?
[14:12] <auronandace> kapz: does your printer already work in ubuntu?
[14:12] <sidvee> remoteCTRL: still couldn't find. :(
[14:12] <htmlgifted> kinda you now how gracia from the show always gets things coming up in the terminal of her machine i want that is there any extras i need to install on my computer to di this.. i have already used the locate and display commands find them kinda limited.
[14:12] <Galaxor> remoteCTRL: That's what I'm talking about, too.
[14:12] <geek0091> sidvee: do me a quick favor since your the only one from earlier?
[14:13] <Galaxor> remoteCTRL: Seriously, even downloading these indexes is taking forever.  I'm literally gettink 8k/sec (I'm on a hotel wifi)
[14:13] <rileyp> htmlgifted:  grep
[14:13] <remoteCTRL> sidvee: couldnt find what?
[14:13] <htmlgifted> grep what in the command line code?
[14:13] <rileyp> man grep
[14:14] <sidvee> geek0091: Couldn't get you!
[14:14] <htmlgifted> ah ok.. manual...
[14:14] <htmlgifted> lol.
[14:14] <shamess> I've confused myself with moving directories... I untar'd the wordpress.tar.gz whilst I was already in my wordpress/ directory. Leading me to have wordpress/wordpress/. I tried to `mv ./wordpress ./` but it "can't move directories"
[14:14] <sidvee> remoteCTRL: 4.28.0.-0.ubuntu
[14:14] <jimi_c> @htmlgifted: TV shows should not be used as a basis of reality, but if you want stuff like google results from the CLI you could use wget to send a query and then parse the output using sed/awk/grep/etc.
[14:14] <remoteCTRL> viktor: what does dpkg -l "fglrx*" return?
[14:14] <shamess> how should I be fixing that?
[14:15] <rileyp> htmlgifted:  ctrl z to close
[14:15] <remoteCTRL> Galaxor: oops that is really lame... but usually this fixes problems such as yours
[14:15] <htmlgifted> jimi_c true i just like how they have the system set up full on linux....
[14:15] <rileyp> htmlgifted:  man locate man find  wil help you alot
[14:15] <kapz> auronandace, Yes it does work under ubuntu and works with networked ubuntu as well.
[14:15] <viktor> remoteCTRL http://paste.ubuntu.com/899166/
[14:16] <remoteCTRL> htmlgifted: find is your weapon of choice then, ships with a gazillion switches, including even reg-exps
[14:16] <auronandace> kapz: oh, so you already set cups to allow printing from others?
[14:17] <savage> tibetan monks spend a lifetime learning the ways of the find command
[14:17] <remoteCTRL> shamess: why can you not move directories?
[14:17] <rileyp> htmlgifted:  i just like how they have the system set up full on linux....    lol
[14:17] <jimi_c> tibetan monks don't have access to man pages?
[14:17] <remoteCTRL> sidvee: well that is the one currently being delivered for oneiric, followups come with 12.04
[14:18] <viktor> remoteCTRL what does it mean that my display is "unclaimed", is that related to the issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/899171/
[14:18] <Galaxor> remoteCTRL: Okay, finally updated.  I got some BADSIGs.  Some surprising ones, too, such as the one for archive.canonical.com.  See http://pastebin.com/SkA43vug
[14:18] <remoteCTRL> viktor: dude! what context, what have you been doing, what did the command above return?
[14:18] <iLogical> http://pastebin.com/4RmaEWNA I am getting this error
[14:18] <rileyp> htmlgifted: in a terminal and all...
[14:18] <htmlgifted> ok. thanks for the info guys... a real big help....
[14:18] <iLogical> how to solve it??
[14:18] <shamess> remoteCTRL: "mv: cannot move `wordpress/wp-admin/' to `./wp-admin': Directory not empty" I was hoping it would just overwrite the current data.
[14:19] <remoteCTRL> Galaxor: that dont sound too good, your system compromised..??
[14:19] <htmlgifted> yah,,, they show results appearing inside a terminal window
[14:19] <remoteCTRL> htmlgifted: my pleasure
[14:19] <Toscho> hi
[14:20] <Toscho> my llaptop (lubuntu 11.10) only boots till bios-screens. after that: black screen with blinking underscore
[14:20] <viktor> remoteCTRL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/899166/ What do you mean "what cotext", is it completely irrelevant?
[14:20] <Toscho> what's the reason and how can I solve this problem?
[14:20] <remoteCTRL> shamess: you of course cannot move a dir into itself.... cd into the directory whos contents you want to move then, sudo mv * ../
[14:20] <wylde> !nomodeset | Toscho
[14:20] <htmlgifted> hay does any one know why ubuntu does not have the drivers for a hp 2050 deskjet but have 2000 and 2500 but not inbetween.,?
[14:20] <yeochief2002> what are the lua_* folders created in home folder when I upgraded to 11.10
[14:20] <remoteCTRL> viktor: if it were completely irrelevant, would i be asking then? ;)
[14:21] <rileyp> htmlgifted: you can use irc in a terminal  bitchx
[14:21] <shamess> remoteCTRL: the is the second parameter of mv relative to my current working directory, or the first parameter?
[14:21] <rileyp> Toscho can you ctrl alt f1 to a terminal ?
[14:21] <remoteCTRL> viktor: first: you need not pastebin a single line, second that indicates that fglrx has been removed completely
[14:21] <htmlgifted> really. didn't know that still trying to learn the terminal....
[14:21] <Galaxor> remoteCTRL: Well, I'm hoping I somehow deleted the signatures I had stored.  Otherwise, I maybe once did apt-get update over tor and got a devious copy of the package list..?  But even that couldn't have compromised my signature database...
[14:21] <rhin0> htmlgifted: sometimes close drivers work with your setup
[14:21] <Toscho> wylde: what why does this happen now? yesterday it worked fine and didn't change any config
[14:22] <auronandace> htmlgifted: 2000 would be older/earlier model than 2050
[14:22] <rhin0> ie 2050 may work with 2000
[14:22] <rhin0> or something "close"
[14:22] <Galaxor> remoteCTRL: Is there a way to see what public keys I have stored?  And compare their fingerprints with the correct ones?
[14:22] <rhin0> like I have a printer driver for 2600 and its a 2650 printer -- something like that - its either earlier or later
[14:22] <chiiiiiz> hello!!
[14:22] <remoteCTRL> shamess: the astersisk is a wildcard, which means just the same as in windows, namely simply all. the second one means move up one directory
[14:22] <Toscho> rileyp: no
[14:23] <chiiiiiz> Does anyone know about OGMRip?
[14:23] <wylde> Toscho: you didn't mention that in your initail question. Did you install any new packages or updates just before this happened?
[14:23] <htmlgifted> even networked printer that can be found.. I have tried both and still not able to send a print request to the printer to allow printing over my network.
[14:23] <remoteCTRL> Galaxor: ermm.. severe abuse of tor :D and nope that shopuld not have caused the problem...
[14:23] <Toscho> no
[14:23] <remoteCTRL> Galaxor: yes there is, let me think for a sec
[14:23] <chiiiiiz> I have it installed, but the profiles are not loaded... There must be some default profiles (like high-quality PC, low-quality PC)...
[14:24] <Toscho> wylde: no
[14:24] <chiiiiiz> I do not have gthem, only a OGM Video... though all packages are installed
[14:24] <iLogical> http://pastebin.com/4RmaEWNA I am getting this error
[14:24] <remoteCTRL> Galaxor: sudo apt-key list it is
[14:24] <viktor> remoteCTRL, k. so, the other post, about display unclaimed, what does that mean? also, locate fglrx still gives massive return, is that normal if it's completely gone?
[14:25] <remoteCTRL> viktor: nope it is not, but in that case you most likely did not purge but remove it
[14:25] <rileyp>  Galaxor you can look at the keys in synaptic
[14:26] <wylde> Toscho: any hard restarts just before this? At anyrate it might worthwhile to fsck your boot drive
[14:26] <viktor> remoteCTRL, i definitively purged it
[14:26] <remoteCTRL> viktor: then i have no explanation for it, purge should leave nothing behind...
[14:26] <wylde> !fsck
[14:27] <remoteCTRL> viktor: your package management anyways is of the opinion that it has nothing left of it so removing them manually should do no harm, if you consider that useful
[14:27] <Toscho> hard restart might be
[14:27] <remoteCTRL> viktor: about the display unclaimed, i already asked you to explain where that came up
[14:27] <hololight_> I am having a problem with mouse cursor lag and intel video drivers. My laptop has gma 4500 mhd integrated video . I get lag on the mouse cursor using any recent distro of linux, but older releases work fine. Also win7 works fine. If I force vesa drivers... no lag as well. thoughts?
[14:28] <viktor> remoteCTRL, i ran 'sudo lshw -C video' from a ubuntuforum about using radeon driver to determine chipset
[14:29] <ominomi> Hmm.
[14:29] <rileyp> use vesa driver
[14:29] <auronandace> ominomi: i know exactly what you mean... hmm....
[14:30] <quiescens> purge rarely does as much as people like to think it will
[14:30] <rileyp> hololight_use vesa driver
[14:30] <remoteCTRL> viktor: and that returned as only output display unclaimed?
[14:31] <hololight_> thats not an answer, and just marginally better than, sorry about your luck. I know that intel drivers worked in the past, at least as recent as 10.04
[14:31] <htmlgifted> thanks for the printer advice .... l8ter
[14:32] <viktor> remoteCTRL, i gave you the paste, hold on, i'll paste again, http://paste.ubuntu.com/899193/
[14:33] <ben10> need help on networking issues
[14:33] <remoteCTRL> viktor: erm... nope you didnt but thanks anyways:)
[14:33] <auronandace> hololight: could do regression testing to see when it started to lag
[14:33] <SilfenX> been lookign around but cant find any particularly informative instructions on how to get kde desktop onto ubuntu server. anyone know?
[14:33] <remoteCTRL> viktor: http://pastebin.com/LubM9w6D
[14:33] <rileyp>  hololight_ the intel driver is problem so why not use lucid then
[14:33] <remoteCTRL> viktor: weird indeed i never had that one...
[14:34] <rileyp> hololight_ everyone obsessed with updates at end of day they dont do much
[14:35] <viktor> remoteCTRL, had it confused with another paste, srry
[14:35] <JelloPop> hololight_: can you backport the driver??  I have ubuntu 11.10 installed ,but there is no /sys/class/drm ? Why?
[14:39] <titan__> need help with bluetooth dongle on lubuntu 11.10
[14:40] <remoteCTRL> vika: why should there be one? i haven't got it either?
[14:40] <remoteCTRL> !ask | titan
[14:40] <n4dsp> test
[14:41] <rfried> when the next beta of 12.04 will be available?
[14:41] <titan__> !patience
[14:43] <viktor> remoteCTRL, i'm not fully understanding what it says here... do i need to add "pci=nomsi" to the grub?
[14:43] <remoteCTRL> viktor: i havent read it, gimme a minute
[14:44] <deadmund> I have ftp access to an ubuntu machine and there is a folder and in this folder are ~100 jpg images missing the .jpg extension.  How can I mass rename them to all end with .jpg?
[14:46] <remoteCTRL> viktor: i doubt that will help... other than that, 238 answers, and no "fixed" status changed message... sry dude, but i give in there...
[14:47] <viktor> remoteCTRL, alright, thnks for the help, i'm gonna say hello to the sun while i still can, take care
[14:48] <ivivi> hi friends, I have a problem. I write: "sudo bash" in the console but it says to me that ivan is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[14:48] <ivivi> how I fix it?
[14:48] <viktor> tjl, thks as well
[14:48] <remoteCTRL> viktor: my leasure, and enjoy!:)
[14:48] <llutz_> ivivi: sudo adduser ivan admin                   as a user who is allowed to use sudo
[14:49] <ivivi> llutz_ but i ever used the su command and now it doesnt work, why?
[14:49] <llutz_> ivivi: su and sudo are different things
[14:50] <ivivi> aaaammm
[14:51] <__Alex_> ivivi: It doesn't work because on ubuntu, the developers think it's a good idea not to enable root by default, not even give them an option in the installer, to confuse them. You can enable root by setting his password: "sudo passwd"
[14:52] <remoteCTRL> __Alex_: all that provided your account has su privileges, which it doesnt which is the reason why he is here...
[14:52] <zykotic10> !noroot | __Alex_
[14:52] <yeochief2002> quit
[14:52] <yeochief2002> exit
[14:53] <__Alex_> yeochief2002: Put a slash before the exit, like this: "/exit"
[14:54] <yeochief2002> Alex thanx
[14:56] <remoteCTRL> deadmund: for i in $(ls); do mv $i $i.jpg; done will do the trick
[14:56] <aoeui`> hi guys. If I put ~ in my /etc/rc.local script, does ~ mean root home directory?
[14:57] <aoeui`> do I have to put my username explicitly if I need it?
[14:57] <escott> remoteCTRL, why the $(ls) why not just use globbing? *
[14:57] <remoteCTRL> aoeui`: as an educaterd guess i would say yes
[14:57] <remoteCTRL> escott: same difference...:)
[14:58] <escott> aoeui`, bad practice you shouldn't assume that all the shell variables are there, plus its confusing. use the full path
[14:58] <llutz_> $(ls) good luck on filenames with spaces ...
[14:58] <wylde> aoeui`: in all honesty it's best to use absolute path's in scripts, IMHO.
[14:58] <remoteCTRL> llutz_: got a point there...
[14:59] <aoeui`> hmm ok, I thought I could save myself some typing
[14:59] <JelloPop> aoeui`: no current home directory...What ever acount ur logged into..
[14:59] <rileyp> deadmund: man rename
[14:59] <llutz_> aoeui`: it might save some typing, but you'll spend twice the time on bug-fixing later
[14:59] <zykotic10> wylde: +1
[15:00] <bencc> what is the difference between a package and the dev package? for example, libvncserver0 and libvncserver-dev?
[15:00] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: using regexps, nice! thanks also for the hint! :)
[15:01] <aoeui`> it's a bit inconvenient because I need to change the username every  time when I move the script to another computer or maybe write it for another user
[15:01] <llutz_> bencc: the -dev packages contain header-files etc you need to compile things.
[15:01] <SwedeMike> bencc: the dev package is needed for compiling stuff against the library.
[15:01] <raven> which software for virtual radio studio?
[15:02] <wylde> aoeui`: then use the full path and only use a variable for the username
[15:02] <JelloPop> aoeui`: That is the idea of seperate accounts, Unix idea!
[15:02] <bencc> llutz_, SwedeMike: when do I need the non -dev package? It is a c lib so don't I always need to compile with the -dev?
[15:03] <ldiamond> I'm looking for a decent media center for Ubuntu, one that has an Android app for remote control.
[15:03] <viddy> XBMC
[15:03] <ldiamond> XBMC doesn't work on dual monitor
[15:03] <ldiamond> I also need it to work on dual monitors :p
[15:03] <zykotic10> ldiamond: myth also has android apps for remote control
[15:03] <ldiamond> i.e. maximize on a single display
[15:03] <wylde> aoeui`: that will also prevent people from running your script as root if it's doesn't need root privs, since there's no /home/root :)
[15:04] <ldiamond> zykotic10, how's the remote for mythtv? decent?
[15:04] <aoeui`> wylde: ok like "username=aoeui; ls /home/$username". Sounds like the best that could be done here, thanks
[15:04] <remoteCTRL> llutz_: btw i just tested my commandline from above with the asterisk instead of the $(ls), that wont work either..??
[15:04] <zykotic10> ldiamond: ya, but myth might not work as expected on dual-monitors i'm affraid...
[15:04] <llutz_> remoteCTRL: nope, needs to quote it "$i"
[15:05] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: your weapon of choice is MCElinux
[15:05] <rileyp>  ldiamond: mythtv
[15:05] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: http://www.linuxmce.org/ incedibly powerful!
[15:06] <SwedeMike> llutz_: the non-dev files are usuaally the main program, and the -dev files might be needed when compiling modules or plugins or something else for this utiutility.
[15:06] <remoteCTRL> llutz_: i see, thanks  <- such a shell noob...
[15:06] <llutz_> SwedeMike: -> bencc
[15:06] <SwedeMike> llutz_: thanks.
[15:06] <ldiamond> remoteCTRL, if I understand correctly, Linux MCE is a linux distro, i.e. replacing ubuntu.
[15:06] <pharaon> i have ubuntu 11.10 on hdb and in install new xp windows on hda now i can't load ubuntu how to fix
[15:07] <ldiamond> remoteCTRL, I'm looking to run it on my desktop computer.
[15:07] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: nope it is a linux distro setting up upn ubuntu, but their latest version bases on 10.04
[15:07] <bencc> SwedeMike: so for dev I need both. After I create a binary, I just need the non-dev or none?
[15:07] <rileyp> ldiamond:  mythtv 0.25 pick songs on iphone and play thru pc
[15:07] <zykotic10> !grub | pharaon
[15:07] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: then what rileyp said; mythtv!
[15:08] <rileyp> ldiamond:  and has full remote control as well
[15:08] <ldiamond> I don't really need all the nice user interface or anything. I want to sit down on the couch, browse my movie library on my phone, pick what I want to watch and it should play full screen on my biggest monitor
[15:08] <__Alex_> pharaon: It's simple, all that happened is that Windows rewrote your MBR. This can be repaired easily. I can give you step-by-step instructions
[15:08] <rileyp> mythbuntu easy install
[15:08] <ldiamond> yea will check out mythtv
[15:08] <rileyp> im using it right now
[15:08] <rileyp> on my 3metre screen
[15:08] <ldiamond> I remember trying it before and I wasn't impressed, but that was probably 1-2 years ago
[15:08] <raven> which software for virtual radio studio?
[15:09] <zykotic10> ldiamond: myth hasn't changed much in that time...
[15:09] <rileyp> wacthing a movie and irc same time 7 tb of tv recordings 15 tuners
[15:09] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: then you need a pointermouse, ermm.. what was the correct term for that? there are a few devices, specially designed for the use with linux
[15:09] <ldiamond> remoteCTRL, nah that would be really awful
[15:09] <ansi> rileyp sir... thanks a million.. because of you i am on wifi
[15:09] <rileyp> ldiamond:  you need to read manual
[15:09] <ldiamond> all I need is a daemon listening for HTTP requests that will launch vlc full screen.
[15:10] <rileyp> ansi lol what was it
[15:10] <ldiamond> and an android app that will ask the daemon for the library
[15:10] <SwedeMike> bencc: it depends.
[15:10] <rileyp> the kernel issue
[15:10] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: http://www.lirc.org/ have a look in the "supported hardware" section, remote controls and whatnot there...
[15:10] <ansi> the same link u sent me.. i read through it and run the command at the terminal and rebooted.. it worked!! :) thanks a lot
[15:10] <ldiamond> android phone as a remote is way cooler :p
[15:10] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: er... ya you lost me there, dude...
[15:11] <rileyp> remoteCTRL:  i have ipod control of mythtv and android phone control as well
[15:11] <rileyp> or iphone
[15:11] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: there are apps on android to fullfill that purpose, and they can usually pair with infrared or bluetooth
[15:11] <ansi> rileyp sir.. i have few more things to ask you.. can  i if u permit?
[15:11] <ldiamond> remoteCTRL, should pair via wifi.
[15:12] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: yeah no worries there, i know, i just couldnt tell what that has to do with http and libraries and stuff...
[15:12] <ang_> oiiii
[15:12] <rileyp> ansi ask away!
[15:12] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: well if you need to anjdust your internal mirrors from the outside of your car... :D
[15:12] <ang_> ola
[15:13] <ansi> everytime i get to update manager it and click on "install updates" it says Requires installation of untrusted packages
[15:13] <ansi> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[15:13] <remoteCTRL> ang_: la hola!
[15:13] <ldiamond> remoteCTRL, it's more about the fact that most phone support Wifi while not all of them have IR
[15:13] <ldiamond> Wifi has longer range as well.
[15:13] <ldiamond> Think about the possibility to stream to the phone
[15:14] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: but approximately 100% support bluetooth nowadays. way-to-go
[15:14] <ldiamond> You're at a friend's place and you stream the video from home to your phone / his PC
[15:14] <ldiamond> Not all computer support bluetooth
[15:14] <rileyp>  ldiamond i use vlc remote on my android phone to control my pc in shed to play music in backyard
[15:14] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: stream what, the media output? totally different chapter, my freind...
[15:14] <ldiamond> only some laptop come wit it
[15:14] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: then u use the 2$ bluetooth dongle?
[15:15] <ldiamond> 15$
[15:15] <ldiamond> not everyone want to buy that
[15:15] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: NEVER!
[15:15] <ldiamond> when they have a router
[15:15] <ansi> rileyp sir..pls advise
[15:15] <ldiamond> remoteCTRL, not everyone lives in the US you know
[15:15] <remoteCTRL> ldiamond: for example me, i live in austria/europe, no roos
[15:15] <Xabster> Anyone know of a good program to read temperatures and control my fans under ubuntu 11.10?
[15:16] <ldiamond> Xabster, there's no complete solution. use lm-sensors to read
[15:16] <wylde> !info fancontrol | Xabster
[15:16] <ldiamond> fan control I'm not sure
[15:17] <ansi> is there a solution to my query rileyp?
[15:17] <Xabster> hmm, ok
[15:18] <raven> which software for virtual radio studio?
[15:18] <wylde> Xabster: install lm-sensors first and configure it with sudo sensors-detect, the after installing fancontrol configure it with sudo pwmconfig
[15:18] <Xabster> i see my chassis fan is doing 1500 RPM and my board is only 36C
[15:18] <Guest81225> Hello room.  After some updates I am unable to start an xsession on my login, though it still starts for other users.  Clues please for fixing this.
[15:18] <ansi> and also there is ATI radeon graphics card in my laptop that also is not detected
[15:18] <rileyp> ldiamond: i can in mythtv select recordings  to auto transcode to iphone/andriod format. teh files are symlinked to the http server running on my back end whcih allows me to open a weppage on my phone and wacth
[15:18] <dr3mro> hello , I want to develop and share bug fix ubuntu .. what language should I learn ?
[15:18] <remoteCTRL> ansi: what package is it crying out for?
[15:18] <rileyp> or download and watch later
[15:19] <ansi> sir dont know.. as i am new to ubuntu..installed it just 2 days ago
[15:19] <remoteCTRL> Guest81225: "i am unable" is a kind of blurry description can you specify that closer?
[15:20] <Xabster> wylde, no pwm-capable sensors detected - but i could do it in windows
[15:20] <rileyp> ansi your ati is detected but the drivers need you permission to install and so they havent
[15:20] <wylde> Xabster: oh and psensors, put's a handy icon in your notification area
[15:20] <wylde> Xabster: you configured lm-sensors first?
[15:20] <rileyp> I wouldnt install them either unless you have good reason
[15:20] <Xabster> configured? it let it run it's detection script
[15:20] <wylde> Xabster: sudo sensors-detect
[15:20] <Xabster> i did that
[15:20] <wylde> ahh alright
[15:21] <remoteCTRL> ansi: first of all, no need to "sir"me, i'd rather you "dude" me, second, if you try to invoke the process you get an error message, obviously, what does it say?
[15:21] <Galaxor> remoteCTRL: Oh.  I opened my gpg keyring with a pinentry program.  I bet that's interfering with apt.  How do I unauthenticate from my gpg keyring?
[15:21] <wylde> Xabster: moment, I'm trying to recall if I added another utility.
[15:21] <rileyp> ansi: everytime i get to update manager it and click on "install updates" it says Requires installation of untrusted packages........................  just allow them     cheers rileyp
[15:21] <bjrohan> I am having an issue after my latest upgrade yesterday. My computer will boot (grub) normally, however all I can see is my desktop wallpaper, and nothing else, nothing works. If I boot into recovery mode, then select normal boot, I can get Unity 2D. Any suggestions? I reloaded my package manager, there are no packages to update,
[15:21] <ansi> .. everytime i try to update driver Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[15:21] <ansi> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[15:22] <remoteCTRL> Galaxor: you can just delete it and recreate it. that used to be in applications/accessories, i have no clue where to find that in unity...
[15:22] <Guest81225> remoteCTRL, yeah sorry. The xsession doesn't finish starting up.  I get the background, but no items on the desktop.  I do have errors in .xsession-errors, but don't know what to do abouth fixing them.  I was hoping it was a known problem that reinstalling a package might fix.
[15:22] <wylde> Xabster: I'm sure I just used lm-sensors and fancontrol, oh and psensors to view the output.
[15:22] <ansi> rileyp there are 2 issues.. what i told you is what happens in update manager.. but when i get that msg it dosent give me an option to allow them
[15:22] <escott> bjrohan, recovery + normal boot is a little confusing. do you mean you are booting an old computer? did you manually install graphics drivers or did you use jockey?
[15:22] <wylde> !psensor
[15:23] <rileyp> ansi dont install ati driver unless you google for a guide and follow it. ANd 2 days into ubuntu its like a gun to your head
[15:23] <Xabster> I can't control anything with fancontrol, wylde but the 2 other programs seem to work
[15:23] <escott> bjrohan, booting an old kernel i mean
[15:23] <remoteCTRL> bjodah: do you get an error after some minutes, stating that .ICEauthority could not be created?
[15:23] <wylde> Xabster: so sudo pwmconfig didn't find any fans to control?
[15:23] <Xabster> indeed
[15:23] <Xabster> it did not
[15:23] <wylde> !info psensor
[15:23] <wylde> bugger :(
[15:23] <remoteCTRL> Guest81225: paste the content of the log to pastebin.com pls
[15:24] <drPoO> whats a good serials/cracks website??
[15:24] <bjrohan> excott: I am not sure, I am not that techie with Ubuntu.  When I merely turn on my laptop after a package manager upgrade yesterday, all I see is my desktop wallpaper (which is the one I had before the upgrade). At that point nothing works, nothing. I can only see the pointer that I can move around
[15:24] <remoteCTRL> drPoO: wrong topic for the channel
[15:24] <bjrohan> escott: I am not sure, I am not that techie with Ubuntu.  When I merely turn on my laptop after a package manager upgrade yesterday, all I see is my desktop wallpaper (which is the one I had before the upgrade). At that point nothing works, nothing. I can only see the pointer that I can move around
[15:24] <Xabster> maybe my fans are simply voltage controlled, wylde ?
[15:24] <wylde> Xabster: I believe there's another package called thinkfan, though I've never used it
[15:25] <Xabster> if that uses pulses too, i think it will fail aswell
[15:25] <wylde> Xabster: possibly, best chance of find that info would be the user manual for your mobo
[15:25] <wylde> *finding
[15:25] <bjrohan> excott: If I turn off my laptop, then reboot, and from the grub menu select boot into recovery, it bring up a text menu, from which I can select boot normal, if I select that, my laptop will boot, however I am in UNity 2D mode, only 4 desktops, and huge icons
[15:25] <Xabster> yeah, ill take a trip to bios and see if there is some lock on the fan control or something
[15:25] <Xabster> then i'll read the manual
[15:25] <Xabster> brb
[15:25] <bjrohan> escott: I have made no changes other than the package upgrade that I typically do when it says there are updates available
[15:26] <escott> bjrohan, and what kind of graphics card do you have? did you install drivers for your graphics card? and how did you do that?
[15:26] <wylde> Xabster: sounds good, manual is always a good place for info. I'm stepping out for a bit though. I'm sure there are other more knowledgable than me in here anyway :)
[15:26] <remoteCTRL> escott: he had it working and then he upgraded
[15:26] <remoteCTRL> bjrohan: do you get an error after some minutes, stating that .ICEauthority could not be created?
[15:27] <bjrohan> escott: I don't recall, how do I check? my laptopt came with NVidia, but then I swapped it out and I don't recall what I have now (this was before switching to Ubuntu about 6 months ago)
[15:27] <bjrohan> remoteCTRL: no
[15:27] <escott> remoteCTRL, yes and if he manually installed a graphics driver and got a new kernel his graphics stack would be broken
[15:27] <l_r> when will ubuntu be released?
[15:27] <escott> !precise | l_r
[15:27] <remoteCTRL> escott: erm.. youre mistaken there dude, dkms does that for you
[15:27] <Dulak> bjodah: lspci will show you everything on the pci bus, including the video
[15:28] <bjrohan> escott: I may have done that: I do recall playing around with graphics card software after initial install, to a "better" one
[15:29] <rileyp> bjrohan:  is it ati?
[15:29] <escott> bjrohan, if you used jockey then getting a matching kernel module should have been taken care of for you. if you downloaded a .bin that could be the source of your problems. if you did it the jockey way then you might try a unity --reset
[15:29] <rileyp> bjrohan:   sudo lshw -C video
[15:30] <bjrohan> rileyp: when I do what yo posted I get: PCI (sysfs)
[15:30] <remoteCTRL> bjrohan: then wait another 5 seconds
[15:30] <l_r> but i need the precise date
[15:30] <bjrohan> escott: I don't know if I used jockey or not
[15:30] <rileyp> bjrohan:  listen to escoot he is more knowledgable than I
[15:30] <bjrohan> here is what I get with sudo lshw -C video:
[15:30] <bjrohan> *-display UNCLAIMED
[15:30] <bjrohan>        description: VGA compatible controller
[15:30] <bjrohan>        product: Radeon Mobility X1400
[15:30] <bjrohan>        vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
[15:30] <FloodBot1> bjrohan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:31] <bjrohan>        physical id: 0
[15:31] <ansi> dude i am unable to scroll up and read what u typed.. please tell me how to scroll up in xchat
[15:31] <remoteCTRL> gosh not again
[15:31] <rileyp> bjrohan: go back and have another look it takes a while to complete the task
[15:31] <bjrohan> I did, and posted it (however I think I got the bot warning)
[15:31] <rileyp> ati lol
[15:32] <remoteCTRL> bjrohan: heres your bugreport: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/509273
[15:32] <oCean> l_r: it's planned for april 26th, but it will be out when it is ready
[15:32] <ansi> please help
[15:32] <rileyp> how many ati video faults a day
[15:32] <bjrohan> So I need to just wait?
[15:32] <escott> bjrohan, well try the following. boot normally and then ctrl-alt-f1 over to a terminal. then "export DISPLAY=:0" then "unity --reset"
[15:32] <rileyp> must be 10 or more
[15:33] <rileyp> ansi dont install 3rd party video drivers just use and enjoy the error you are getting is nothing to concern yourslef with
[15:33] <l_r> can the default gnome desktop be choosen in the next release?
[15:33] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: its the same one
[15:33] <l_r> i dont like ubiquity or unity or whatever is the name
[15:34] <oCean> l_r: further discussion on 12.04 is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[15:34] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: and according to the bugs date it is everything els but a new one
[15:35] <mun> Hi
[15:35] <xeone> salut tous le monde
[15:35] <oCean> !fr | xeone
[15:35] <rileyp> remoteCTRL:  his is working ok he is getting a error when he does an update whoop de chook he has been using buntu 2 days total in his life I suggest he use and enjoy ant not stresss about packat manager complaints
[15:35] <Guest81225> remoteCTRL, .xsession problem.  Sorry for the delay, had to figure out how to get access to the file from the wrong account.  Please have a look at http://pastebin.com/mc20gDWy
[15:36] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: actually the package verification is not a nice-to-have but a core-feature guaranteeing that you dont fall victim to  a man in the middle attack with somebody trying to spoof you fake packets, so i consider that answer you just gave ansi problematic...
[15:36] <remoteCTRL> Guest81225: will do, sec, pls
[15:37] <rileyp> remoteCTRL:  you are correct but like I say 2 days in i dont think he should be trying to install ati driverss
[15:37] <mun> I'm trying to boot of live cd on a usb. In software sources, it says at the bottom cdrom with ubuntu. I keep getting an error updating the sources because what I'm using is an usb and not a cd. Does anyone know how to change the source to usb?
[15:37] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: he should use jockey for that..
[15:38] <rileyp> jockey wont work because of the bug?
[15:38] <rileyp> Is this correct
[15:39] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: nope, the ati driver wont work because of the bug, as far as i understood this, regardless whether you installed it with jockey or with .bin...
[15:39] <zykotic10> mun: what does booting liveusb and software sources have in common?  What are you trying to do?  Boot from USB or update a system from USB?
[15:39] <dr3mro> I want to fix bugs in ubuntu where i start
[15:39] <zykotic10> dr3mro: launchpad - find a bug, and fix it ;)
[15:39] <dr3mro> i want to know which language is most widely used in ubuntu unity ??  gnome
[15:40] <oCean> !contribute | dr3mro
[15:40] <mun> I'm trying to run boot repair. So update the system from usv
[15:40] <dr3mro> zykotic10, I need to know which language is the most used in unity
[15:40] <remoteCTRL> Guest81225: i am sorry dude, but there are that many errors in there, that i would not even know where to start googling...
[15:40] <rileyp> mun you cannot update the cd it has been burnt
[15:40] <mun> Sorry I'm using my phone now
[15:41] <mun> No I'm not using a cd. I'm using a usb
[15:41] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: and i implied that i do perfectly agree with you when i said that he should only do it via jockey...:)
[15:41] <mun> But I have cd in my sources instead
[15:41] <rileyp> rem He shouldnt even attempt to use jockey
[15:41] <remoteCTRL> dr3mro: C/C++
[15:42] <mun> In sources.list it says cdrom:...
[15:42] <rileyp> damm i missed tab
[15:42] <ansi> anyone help pls
[15:42] <dr3mro> remoteCTRL, WOW .. is unity written in C
[15:42] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: why the heck not?? isnt that exactly what they created it for? to be noob-proof?
[15:42] <vjacob> hi all. how can i use dpkg or apt-get to export a list of packages that I can later input to install using dpkg/apt-get on another computer?
[15:42] <zykotic10> !clone | vjacob
[15:42] <rileyp> ansi imho your error isnt worth worrying about
[15:43] <vjacob> i did dpkg --list > mypackages.txt for now, but it includes a lot of garbage... also, is there a command to import such a file even without all the formatting?
[15:43] <vjacob> awesome zykotic10 .
[15:43] <fabellogo> hallo spricht hier jemand deutsch
[15:43] <llutz_> !de
[15:43] <ansi> thanks rileyp.. that was quite a relief
[15:43] <ansi> now.. i have radeon graphics card.. again its drivers are not installing
[15:44] <ansi> rileyp ..pls ask me to type the commands like u asked me to do the last time..
[15:44] <bjrohan> Oops, thanks for the input. I hit the key combo to get into terminal before I wrote down what you told me to restarty unity, and I lost it all and had to reboot, could you repost? I did type Unity from term, and it hung up about 7 lines into restart. Also how do I get out of the fullscreen terminal, back to xwindows?
[15:44] <rileyp> ansi leave your ati drivers alone.... play use ubuntu for a week or so thne look at it ok?
[15:44] <ansi> they were miracolous
[15:44] <remoteCTRL> dr3mro: Unity is written as a plugin for Compiz[14] and is written in the programming languages C++ and Vala and uses an uncommon OpenGL toolkit called Nux. Being a plugin for Compiz gives Unity GPU-accelerated performance on compatible systems  ->> from out of wikipedia
[15:45] <remoteCTRL> vjacob: if you want to use dpkg for this you can use the --get-selectins and --set-selections switches and afterwards use dselect to apply the changes on the cloned system
[15:46] <rileyp> ansi enjoy your ubuntu please dont play with graphics when they fail thats it black screen and you r up sh.t.. creek without a paddle
[15:46] <vjacob> thanks remoteCTRL
[15:46] <vjacob> i will try the aptitude approach first
[15:46] <remoteCTRL> vjacob: my pleasure
[15:46] <vjacob> otherwise your approach
[15:46] <vjacob> thanks zykotic10
[15:46] <rileyp> ansi  2days in is not time to install ati drivers imho ok?
[15:46] <vjacob> cya and have a great we.
[15:46] <mun> Basically I have a live cd source when I'm using a live usb. How do I change the source to usb?
[15:46] <ansi> rileyp..not playing with anything.. its just that i have hardware in my pc that has not been taken care of
[15:47] <bjrohan> escott: How can I tell what my graphics card is again?
[15:48] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: may i repeat my question: why the heck not?? isnt that exactly what they created it for? to be noob-proof?
[15:48] <rileyp> ansi the current ati driver in ubuntu has problems and they will make your pc look like it isnt swictched on. Do not go there
[15:48] <escott> bjrohan, lspci or lshw -C video
[15:48] <aaGp> excuse me, where is the folder of the wallpapers i mean the default ones here in ubuntu11.10??..
[15:48] <dr3mro> remoteCTRL, I know basic vala GTK / GLADE  and good experience in python GTK .. but I need to focus on one programming language to master it as I  take it as hobby only and I work as a physician but enjoy programming when I have some little free time in my vacation.... so do you suggest me continue the vala way or go python way .. for the future ot ubuntu develeopment what will be most widely used vala or python ??
[15:48] <ansi> bjrohan bhai.. looks like u are also new to ubuntu .. welcome brother
[15:48] <zykotic10> remoteCTRL: i asked in #ubuntu-irc a while ago about finding a replacement method for !clone (as it uses aptitude) but alternatives where all deemed dangerous/sub-optimal.  So aptitude still has a use on ubuntu ;)
[15:48] <rileyp> escoot he did before
[15:49] <rileyp> escot he did before