[04:10] <outbackwifi> Guest46929: like they say, if you dont know what it is, you probably dont need it
[04:10] <blouf> pc, jdu : i don't want to format & make a new system ... i think i'll not use the ext4 :/
[04:10] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, eee  FTW
[04:10] <r33tfux0r> ahhh cool i thought it was a task
[04:10] <r33tfux0r> scunizi, thanks mate
[04:10] <studentz> perlooooooo: did you already install  libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2?
[04:10] <Guest46929> oki doki thanks outback
[04:10] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, actually, asus FTW
[04:10] <scunizi> r33tfux0r: if you look in synaptic for the tasks you'll see several things you can do.. no problem
[04:11] <evilhack02> EX4 is unstable I would not recommend
[04:11] <outbackwifi> space_cadet: whats an FTW
[04:11] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, me?  asus M70Vm-x1   <off topic>
[04:11] <pc> blouf: so the upgrade to jaunty should be somewhat painless (<hope>)
[04:11] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, For The Win
[04:11] <blouf> pc, jdu : do i really loose something great ?
[04:11] <blouf> pc, jdu : s/loose/lose
[04:11] <Patrick904> Hello. I want to update from 8.04 to 8.10. If I backup my home folder and replace it in 8.10 will my apps, themes, icons, and other settings be as they were in 8.04?
[04:11] <outbackwifi> space_cadet: i was addressing my responses to Guest46929
[04:12] <evilhack02> gnome art
[04:12] <evilhack02> www.gnomeart.com
[04:12] <CITguy-Artemis> Patrick904: they should, I would highly suggest that when you install 8.10, you separate / and /home on separate partitions
[04:12] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, i was saying that ASUS rocks, and I have one too.
[04:13] <space_cadet> +2   CITguy-Artemis
[04:13] <scunizi> Patrick904: back it up just for safety.. when you upgrade the apps etc will also be upgraded to the latest version available
[04:13] <outbackwifi> space_cadet: oh yes!! i have two of them 701 and 1000 H
[04:13] <pc> blouf: without ext4?
[04:13] <space_cadet> niice
[04:13] <syntax\> has anyone in here tried installing Epson LX-300 (dotmatrix) printer on ubuntu and succeded?
[04:14] <evilhack02>  EX4 alternative is in the kernel
[04:14] <syntax\> i really really really need to have this printer work on ubuntu 8.10
[04:14] <space_cadet> syntax\, sounds like my experience with a dell 725
[04:14] <blouf> pc, yes
[04:14] <syntax\> space_cadet: were you able to make it work sir?
[04:14] <pc> blouf: if you're happy with ext3, then no.  :-)
[04:14] <space_cadet> syntax\, nope,
[04:14] <scunizi> syntax\: epson I believe is one of those companies that doesn't even look at linux
[04:14] <space_cadet> syntax\, one of the only reasons i still have a windows partition.
[04:15] <space_cadet> scunizi, like dell and lexmark?
[04:15] <pc> blouf: and, you can always convert later
[04:15] <evilhack02> Linus Torvalds does not recommend it to work with a
[04:15] <scunizi> space_cadet: yep
[04:15] <outbackwifi> syntax\: i have used a dot matrix printer but not the epson model. I just selected generic 9-pin and it worked like a charm
[04:15] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, my asus has "instant on linux"
[04:16] <outbackwifi> space_cadet: whats that??
[04:16] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, proprietary splashtop
[04:16] <blouf> pc : oh ok
[04:16] <scunizi> space_cadet: syntax\ actually after googling epson might be ok.. for some models
[04:16] <outbackwifi> space_cadet: oh ok
[04:16] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, locked down no terminal, etc.  just web browser, skype gaim and music player
[04:16] <syntax\> outbackwifi: well i was able to have it working. but after i tried to shared it poof. i cannot print no more and even if it prints its all characters (useless characters)
[04:16] <syntax\> now it can't seem to work.
[04:17] <studentz> sintax: check this http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-LX-300
[04:17] <syntax\> and googling doesnt give any decent answers
[04:17] <scunizi> syntax\: see studentz link above
[04:17] <outbackwifi> syntax\: a lot of times, just deleting and adding a new printer works
[04:17] <space_cadet> yeah..   if it worked before.  there is still hope
[04:17] <evilhack02> macosx someone knows if it can be installed on ubuntu
[04:18] <outbackwifi> syntax\: if youre the adventurous types, tailing /var/log/cups/error_log helps
[04:18] <syntax\> outbackwifi: did that for a couple of times already
[04:18] <space_cadet> sure. evilhack02    you can make ubuntu look like mac os X
[04:18] <scunizi> evilhack02: in a vm.. maybe but it would be an evilhack :)
[04:18] <Zephyrum> HI guys, I'm sure this has been asked over 9k times, but I'm wondering if there's an official release time (not date) of jaunty?
[04:18] <scunizi> no
[04:18] <outbackwifi> !jaunty
[04:18] <syntax\> studentz: sir there are no drivers available in that link to be downlaoded
[04:19] <scunizi> syntax\: but info should be there.
[04:19] <evilhack02>  yes
[04:19] <space_cadet> evilhack02, google   ubuntu leopard
[04:19] <rayk_sland> need to disable all framebuffer stuff on start up including cute console fonts etc. How do I do it?
[04:20] <evilhack02> leopard
[04:20] <scunizi> syntax\: says that there is a ghostscript driver
[04:20] <space_cadet> evilhack02, you get a cool globalmenu  and splashy theme, as well as a nice gdm etc.
[04:20] <evilhack02>  no
[04:20] <draeath> I see 9.04 is out in 1 day. Should I put the RC on, or just wait?
[04:20] <evilhack02>  os  mac
[04:20] <Chaorain> I have Windows XP on a seperate hard drive that is raid 1(mirror). How can I mount it as 1 disk?
[04:20] <outbackwifi> rayk_sland: if you have a line in your menu.lst turning on fb, remove it. its typically vga=791 or something
[04:20] <fearthenofear> how do i install openoffice.org 3.0
[04:21] <space_cadet> evilhack02,  install it in a virtual box....   otherwise you may have problems installing it on your machine...
[04:21] <space_cadet> lol
[04:21] <space_cadet> mac on a pc
[04:21] <syntax\> scunizi: im trying to download the ghostscript 8.64
[04:21] <evilhack02> install  my linux
[04:21]  * scunizi wishes today would be the 24th and all the excitement will then be about the bugs in upgrading or unusual hardware quirks
[04:21] <space_cadet> it can be done, but it takes some haxx0r1ng
[04:21] <rayk_sland> outback: that only disables it until the initramfs is done. I think udev brings it all back...
[04:21] <scunizi> syntax\: ghostscript is in synaptic..
[04:21] <evilhack02>  virtual box   OHHH  yes
[04:21] <lolololo> actually latest macs are pcs
[04:21] <evilhack02> :-0
[04:22] <fearthenofear> anyone?
[04:22] <draeath> Anyone? I want to migrate back over to Ubuntu, but I'm wondering if I should go with the RC or wait another day.
[04:22] <space_cadet> scunizi, hey, i just installed the latest ubuntu, and now my screen says 'tty1'    can you help?     lol     <forseeing the future>
[04:22] <outbackwifi> rayk_sland: on another note, i remember recomipiling the kernel to turn on framebuffer. you might want to do the reverse.
[04:22] <scunizi> fearthenofear: you'll get it in the next release tomorrow.
[04:22] <space_cadet> draeath, i got the RC today...
[04:22] <fearthenofear> ahhh
[04:22] <evilhack02>
[04:22] <evilhack02> virtual box but does not support installing leopard
[04:22] <fearthenofear> alrighty
[04:22] <cyber_tux90> ih
[04:22] <scunizi> space_cadet: nope.. lol.. I'm running hardy right now on this lappy
[04:23] <Jordan_U> space_cadet, Is this the first boot?
[04:23] <cyber_tux90> IH
[04:23] <space_cadet> Jordan_U, it was a joke
[04:23] <draeath> space_cadet: I imagine things are mostly up to date? just the official switch-flipping tomorrow?
[04:23] <syntax\> scunizi: what to do after?
[04:23] <syntax\> :((
[04:23] <space_cadet> draeath, yeah
[04:23] <studentz> spacecadet:  ctr alt f7
[04:23] <Chaorain> !raid
[04:23] <draeath> space_cadet: thanks
[04:23] <scunizi> syntax\: after insall of ghostscript?  install the printer again and look for a driver
[04:23] <Spock2f> hi channel
[04:23] <fearthenofear> do i have to live cd install the new version tomorrow? or can i just update it somehow?
[04:23] <space_cadet> !hi | Spock2f
[04:23] <Spock2f> I not speak english
[04:24] <cyber_tux90> Hi spok2f
[04:24] <Keypad> Hi, I have seam to lost my whole desktop after restarting the other day. I have no idea whats wrong, any one got a clue ?
[04:24] <space_cadet> Spock2f, u speak ??
[04:24] <Jordan_U> Spock2f, What language do you speak?
[04:24] <Spock2f> Portuguese
[04:24] <Spock2f> Im live in brazil
[04:24] <space_cadet> !br
[04:24] <Spock2f> Yeap
[04:25] <pc> Keypad: you'll need to be a bit more descriptive
[04:25] <Jordan_U> Keypad, What do you mean by lost the desktop? ( Can't see icons on the desktop, log in to a blank screen, can't log in at all? )
[04:25] <space_cadet> ctrl alt f7 ?
[04:26] <space_cadet> lol
[04:26] <Keypad> pc, The Icons are gone, Cant right click, but all the panels are fine.
[04:26] <space_cadet> Keypad, open terminal.
[04:26] <Keypad> done
[04:26] <space_cadet> wait.
[04:26] <nmitree> my first time here
[04:26] <carthik> Keypad, try typing nautilus & in a terminal
[04:26] <smileboot> im sure this has been asked 10 million times. but does anyone know the time that 9.04 is being released? est preferably
[04:26] <scunizi> no
[04:26] <scunizi> no no no
[04:27] <space_cadet> no no no no
[04:27] <pc> !hi | nmitree
[04:27] <carthik> keypad, nautilus (the file manager) is what manages your "desktop" - and it might have died
[04:27] <outbackwifi> sorry dc
[04:27] <nmitree> Hi
[04:27] <malv> is there a way to get around the fact that windows xp will not install if there is an lvm partition on the disk?
[04:27] <nmitree> every one
[04:27] <eseven73> how do I add alias to .bashrc if it has quote marks in the command, such as watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED"   I get: bash: alias: -tpanl: not found
[04:27] <carthik> malv, #ubuntu aint #xp :P
[04:27] <Keypad> carthik,  I got [1] 7463
[04:27] <malv> but lvm is related
[04:28] <space_cadet> Keypad, if that doesn't work check your gconf-editor to make sure "draw desktop" is checked
[04:28] <Spock2f> space_cadet : it is a sad comment on it, but I am completing my studies in computer science
[04:28] <carthik> Keypad, kill it and restart it and see what gives
[04:28] <malv> i am trying to get coexistence between linux and xp
[04:28] <scunizi> malv: yep.. put an old drive in the machine as a secondary and install to that.. wipe the current drive, install then reinstall ubuntu
[04:28] <malv> eh, but i only have two disks and they both have lvm on them
[04:28] <Spock2f> is quite time that I stopped using IRC
[04:28] <space_cadet> malv, good luck
[04:28] <Jordan_U> malv, I don't know how, but given that distros like fedora use LVM by default it must be possible
[04:28] <smileboot> so no one knows the time?
[04:28] <Spock2f> I'm using Google Desktop to translate my Portuguese
[04:28] <space_cadet> smileboot, nope.
[04:29] <Keypad> carthik, I did that it just seams to pop up another file manager window
[04:29] <outbackwifi> !time
[04:29] <scunizi> Jordan_U:  what does fedora have to do with xp installing on an lvm drive?
[04:29] <outbackwifi> !lvm
[04:29] <space_cadet> Spock2f, i had google desktop installed, until i rebooted and noticed that my integrated webcam turned on during the boot phase...
[04:29] <eseven73> how do I add alias to .bashrc if it has quote marks in the command, such as watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED"   I get: bash: alias: -tpanl: not found
[04:29] <Ciros> lol space
[04:29] <carthik> Keypad, hmm, okay.
[04:29] <cyber_tux90>
[04:29] <space_cadet> Spock2f, once in took google desktop off, it didn't happen again.
[04:29] <carthik> eseven73, you create a function instead
[04:30] <Jordan_U> scunizi, I thought that he was saying that windows was being confused by the existence of an LVM partition, he asked if this could be fixed in any way
[04:30] <Keypad> space_cadet, How do I check draw desktop in that config editor ?
[04:30] <t0cableguy> hi, i'm having trouble with amarok 2 on ubuntu 9.04 playing mp3's i am new.. so dont rail me too bad.. mp3 playback installed practically automatically in 8.10.. but no such luck with amarok 2
[04:30] <eseven73> carthik, how do I do that?
[04:30] <carthik> eseven73, for things that are more complicated try writing a function instead of an alias in .bashrc
[04:30] <scunizi> Jordan_U: yep.. windows is confused. won't install on a drive with an lvm partition
[04:30] <carthik> function myfunction { ...function here }
[04:30] <space_cadet> keypad  /apps/nautilus/preferences/show desktop
[04:31] <lolololo> eseven73, if you need to do it an alias, the quotes can be escaped with \
[04:31] <eseven73> carthik, ok thanks ill man bashrc or w/e the man page is for it :)
[04:31] <studentz> t0cableguy: Ubuntu 9.04 definitive release?
[04:31] <t0cableguy> no
[04:31] <eseven73> lolololo, hmmm you mean replace the quote marks with \   ?
[04:31] <t0cableguy> i got sick of waiting,
[04:31] <Keypad> space_cadet, hmm I just ticked it and unticked it and it came back :o
[04:31] <space_cadet> Keypad, if it was unchecked, you will need to restart your session or kill and restart nautilus to get the icons and shiz back
[04:32] <space_cadet> lol
[04:32] <outbackwifi> eseven73: create a file called eseven.sh paste this inside==> watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED"  and  chmod +x eseven.sh and move it /create symlink inside you bin
[04:32] <space_cadet> keypad niice
[04:32] <randomusr> after installing libdvdcss2 and restricted extras on my laptop, I'm not able to play DVDs, not that I could prior, but what's up?
[04:32] <Keypad> Thanks space_cadet !
[04:32] <Jordan_U> scunizi, Well I find it hard to believe that installing fedora would prevent windows from working, so again, there must be a way for them to coexist, unless I am misunderstanding the question
[04:32] <lolololo> no, prepend the \ to the quotes: watch -n 1 \"netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED\"
[04:32] <space_cadet> Keypad, yep
[04:32] <cyber_tux90> end
[04:32] <t0cableguy> studentz, vlc plays mp3's right now though
[04:32] <studentz> t0cableguy  I tested the version one moth before and Amarok played really good. Advice wait for the final release.
[04:33] <^Phantom^> nothing beats the sound of a vinyl o/~
[04:33] <Spock2f> I saw now, now that the 9:04 will be officially released:) I use the default OS as 9:04 in the notebook has a 2 months in
[04:33] <t0cableguy> yea, tomorrow...
[04:33] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, as long as you set it up right, everything plays mp3's
[04:33] <Spock2f> ops, in brazil is 00:33 now :)
[04:33] <scunizi> Jordan_U: I think we're coming from different ends.. I believe he had ubuntu installed with some of the drive using lvm.. then he wanted to install xp .. xp hic-uped because of the lvm
[04:33] <t0cableguy> well.. amarok is just crapping out on me
[04:33] <Spock2f> sorry for my bad English
[04:34] <ssm2017> hello
[04:34] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, havent tried since my fresh install... lemmie check
[04:34] <Spock2f> I read enough experience but it is impossible to actually learn English
[04:34] <t0cableguy> other than that everythings fine, cept for running separate x servers for nvidia
[04:34] <eseven73> lolololo, that worked thanks :)
[04:35] <lolololo> good :)
[04:35] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, and you expect THAT to work?
[04:35] <pc> Spock2f: English is pretty difficult language...it's not just you
[04:35] <t0cableguy> haha
[04:35] <t0cableguy> it worked in 8.10
[04:35] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, don't know if i like amarok's new gui
[04:35] <t0cableguy> its ok.. its shiny and pretty haha
[04:36] <scunizi> Jordan_U: xp I don't think would have an issue coexisting with any linux install as long as it is installed first.. in most cases.. it's just the lvm that was in question.
[04:36] <martin> hy
[04:36] <studentz> t0cableguy: oh yeah, new xserver and nvidia drivers will take some time to work
[04:36] <Keypad> lol, I cant find a music player I like, because they all are missing shit I want.
[04:36] <ghostfish> Keypad: I have the same problem
[04:36] <t0cableguy> for now i'm happy with the twiview and primary screen selection
[04:36] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, well it seems it's going to take a long time to parse my library, so i will get back to you in about 5 min or so
[04:36] <AK_Dave> Keypad: language :)
[04:36] <Spock2f> pc : I've had years of lessons but never really learn it, all my teachers say that the only way to learn is experience
[04:37] <AK_Dave> Keypad: What is it you NEED that is missing?
[04:37] <pc> Spock2f: that's often true with any language
[04:37] <morph3us> when will be available jaunty for download ?
[04:37] <pc> Spock2f: English just has SO many exceptions to rules
[04:37] <ghostfish> what I'd like is something with iTunes like song navigation (all one big list, not folder hierarchy on the side) and support for queueing, but alas I haven' found it yet
[04:37] <pc> !jaunty | morph3us
[04:38] <xlandx> What does this mean "Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to xlandx) from freenode-connect"
[04:38] <scunizi> ghostfish: check out songbird
[04:38] <t0cableguy> space_cadet, i dont like amarok's new gui, cus they tore half the options out of it....
[04:38] <AK_Dave> ghostfish: I hate the "one giant list" thing in iTunes.
[04:38] <carthik> xlandx, nothing, that is the server checking out how you connect etc
[04:39] <xlandx> Oh ok, thanks carthik
[04:39] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, oh wow
[04:39] <scunizi> xlandx: it's the riaa checking your hd for p2p songs
[04:39] <Spock2f> I do not know how you see the Brazil, I probably do not know the world as you also do not know Brazil, the media in my view masks the reality of the facts
[04:39] <space_cadet> scunizi, xlandx and movies, games etc
[04:39] <ghostfish> AK_Dave: I like it becase then I don't need to keep popping open and closing folders to get at my music, plus I can scroll through and just look at everything, kind of like flipping through a magazine to look for things you like
[04:40] <pc> Spock2f: that's what the internet is for (maybe) :-)
[04:40] <t0cableguy> space, is there any good alternative that works similar?
[04:40] <DogBoy> Spock2f, less so than no media at all
[04:40] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, not that ive found
[04:40] <space_cadet> yet
[04:40] <AK_Dave> ghostfish: 10,000 songs is a lot to filter through by hand that way.
[04:40] <scunizi> AK_Dave: he's a speed reader
[04:41] <pc> it's the google way.  search for everything, no folders
[04:41] <ghostfish> AK_Dave: I've got over 5k and don't really have a problem with it, just type the first few letters when sorted by artist if you want to find something, or use the search bar
[04:41] <t0cableguy> space, i miss my simple dumb winamp... they always do it right and nobody appreciates it haha...
[04:41] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, well...      chalk another one on amarok bugs
[04:41] <AK_Dave> ghostfish: You can't search in Amarok?
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Spock2f, This is a support channel only, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:42] <t0cableguy> amarok wont play my mp3's right now for some reason.. prob some bug with 9.04
[04:42] <scunizi> t0cableguy: check out xmms2
[04:42] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, ubuntu-bugs amarok
[04:42] <ghostfish> AK_Dave: but you still have to deal with all the folders (or at least you did last time I tried it)
[04:42] <scunizi> t0cableguy: or audacious
[04:43] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/365377
[04:44] <Spock2f> sorry Jordan_U, you are right, bye space_cadet pc DogBoy good day for all and congratulations for new release 9.04 :)
[04:44] <M4d3L> hi. am looking for help to access my sd disk on my video camera. Here is the log when I plug my camera via usb : http://paste2.org/p/189774  but when I try to mount it I have this error : Apr 22 23:38:53 mdelisle-laptop kernel: [47309.910486] Buffer I/O error on device sdc1, logical block 0
[04:44] <space_cadet> yep
[04:44] <t0cableguy> thanks space
[04:44] <Spock2f> bye
[04:44] <Kr0ntab> t0cableguy: totem is pretty simple in terms of playing files quickly...
[04:44] <AK_Dave> M4d3L: What happens when you just plug the SD card into your computer's card reader slot?
[04:44] <jh_ubuntu> who can use the "makefile"?
[04:44] <t0cableguy> naa. i'm looking for the support for large collections
[04:44] <space_cadet> AK_Dave, it should "just mount"
[04:44] <M4d3L> its an internal SDD.
[04:44] <Kr0ntab> oic... I personally enjoy Banshee
[04:45] <MindVirus> I'm on appendix D in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578&page=11 and I'm getting errors starting pulseaudio. Please help.
[04:45] <M4d3L> AK_Dave: I cant remove it from the camera
[04:45] <AK_Dave> M4d3L: Whats an internal SDD? The camera, or the computer?
[04:45] <MindVirus> E: alsa-util.c: Failed to set hardware parameters on plug:equalized: Invalid argument
[04:45] <Kr0ntab> t0cableguy: have you tried banshee before?  http:/banshee-project.org
[04:45] <M4d3L> I have a JVC Everio SDD video camera
[04:45] <AK_Dave> M4d3L: Bad camera if you can't remove the memory. The 90's called and they want their camera back.
[04:45] <Kr0ntab> it's in the repo
[04:45] <MindVirus> Any suggestions?
[04:46] <Reformer81> I'm trying to install the latest beta of Amarok (2.1), but I can't find anything with Google... how do I do this?
[04:46] <pc> M4d3L: when you plug it in, it doesn't do anything automatically?  are you trying to mount manually?
[04:46] <t0cableguy> kr0ntab no, i'm new to the whole ubuntu and linux world.. just starting to figure out the apps i like..
[04:46] <Kr0ntab> Oh okay.. yeah you'll like Banshee.. check out their website.
[04:46] <t0cableguy> kr0ntab, most i already used in vista
[04:47] <M4d3L> pc: it doesnt do anything automatic when I plug it. I only see some log
[04:47] <t0cableguy> kr0ntab, its in the synaptics add/remove
[04:48] <Kr0ntab> yup...
[04:48] <t0cableguy> so i'll have in in a sec
[04:48] <M4d3L> any tool exist to repair disk error?
[04:48] <n8tuser> fsck ?
[04:48] <M4d3L> because on the camera I can see what I have record
[04:48] <scunizi> !fsck | M4d3L
[04:49] <M4d3L> so data is readable
[04:49] <pc> M4d3L: not sure...I wonder if it has a weird format
[04:49] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, hmm
[04:49] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, banshee doesn't play mp3's either
[04:49] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them
[04:49] <lawlzfries> i wish to upgrade from debian testing/unstable to intrepid. I currently have hoary packages installed, but i cannot run do-release-upgrade, because testing/unstable is not in the meta-release file. I was wondering if i could change my dist to hoary.
[04:49] <t0cableguy> space_cadet, ??
[04:50] <scunizi> space_cadet: it should.. with the restricted extras
[04:50] <space_cadet> nevermind
[04:50] <AussieGuy> ive just cloned my ubuntu install and all other partitions to a new hard drive with gparted. If I want to boot from that hard drive, do I just load boot cdrom, chroot in and run grub?
[04:50] <space_cadet> it just took a time
[04:50] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them
[04:50] <space_cadet> scunizi, t0cableguy it just took a min
[04:50] <matsuo> Hey, is the new version due out in 10 minutes?
[04:50] <space_cadet> scunizi, t0cableguy i was still reading my library
[04:50] <t0cableguy> space_cadet, mk.. i''ve got all the time in the world.. haha
[04:50] <space_cadet> works fine
[04:51] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them
[04:51] <scunizi> AussieGuy: you should be able to just boot to it without using a cdrom or anything
[04:51] <t0cableguy> will 9.04 update to the official release automatically?
[04:51] <scunizi> AussieGuy: provided you also imaged the boot sector along with everything else
[04:51] <scunizi> t0cableguy: no
[04:51] <AussieGuy> scunizi: nope just cloned the parititions
[04:51] <scunizi> t0cableguy: yes.. if you have RC now
[04:51] <AussieGuy> thinking  of a way to change the boot sector of that hard drive and make it sda instead of sdb
[04:52] <Reformer81> I'm trying to install the latest beta of Amarok (2.1), but I can't find anything with Google... how do I do this?
[04:52] <t0cableguy> scunizi, yea i just downloaded it in the past couple days
[04:52] <krammer_> how can i install this jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[04:52] <scunizi> AussieGuy: if you cloned the partition containing the boot record then you should be ok as long as you put the partitions back on the new drive in the same order they were in
[04:52] <matsuo> How much longer till 9.04 is officially released?
[04:52] <scunizi> t0cableguy: you're fine
[04:52] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my video displays and configure them
[04:52] <space_cadet> matsuo, we don't know
[04:52] <t0cableguy> scunizi, thanks
[04:52] <AussieGuy> well not quite....one small 5gb partition was missing
[04:52] <outbackwifi> !jaaunty| matsuo
[04:52] <outbackwifi> !jaunty| matsuo
[04:52] <space_cadet> matsuo, give it a couple of hours
[04:52] <AussieGuy> and the swap is larger and in a different place
[04:53] <n8tuser> PerryArmstrong -> sudo ddcprobe
[04:53] <AussieGuy> but the main windows and main linux paritions were cloned
[04:53] <AussieGuy> same place as before
[04:53] <matsuo> space_cadet: Ok, thanks
[04:53] <birdman99501> w
[04:53] <scunizi> AussieGuy: give it a try.. if no joy then you'll have to reinstall grub
[04:53] <AussieGuy> and id chroot in to do that?
[04:53] <outbackwifi> AussieGuy: just boot from liveCD and edit /etc/fstab, /boot/grub/menu.lst reflect the new environment and then reboot with HDD
[04:53] <AussieGuy> from a boot cd
[04:53] <birdman99501> exit
[04:53] <outbackwifi> AussieGuy: oops mount the harddisk
[04:53] <scunizi> !grub | AussieGuy
[04:54] <PerryArmstrong> n8tuser; there was some command that used to set the screen resolution automatically.. any idea about that
[04:54] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: What about 'sudo update-grub'?
[04:54] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: never done that so cant comment
[04:54] <n8tuser> PerryArmstrong -> dont know of any that automatically adjust rez
[04:54] <krammer_> how can i install this jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[04:55] <Flynsarmy> what's the difference between sudo aptitude and sudo apt-get? is there any?
[04:55] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: infact the Xserver itself is pretty intuitive and automatically adjusts resolution
[04:55] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: I'd try to fix an existing grub before reinstalling it. Not sure what his boot problem is, but its an easy command.
[04:55] <scunizi> krammer_: where'd you get that? looks like an rpm not a .deb.. jre etc is in synaptic
[04:55] <outbackwifi> Flynsarmy: aptitude  is a curses based frontend to apt-get
[04:55] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; no itsn't coming up with that...
[04:55] <krammer_> scunizi, sun website
[04:55] <t0cableguy> in banshee can i used more than one folder for my collection.. right now i'm kinda a mess with my music..
[04:55] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: i havent said anything about reinstalling grub
[04:55] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: He cloned over his drives, so if its Ubuntu then his grub uses UUID and those codes would be borked.
[04:56] <scunizi> krammer_: look in system/admin/synaptic and search for jre.. install from there
[04:56] <krammer_> scunizi, thanks
[04:56] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: just use blkid to get the  UUID of the new drives after he boots from live  cd
[04:56] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; here's my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1115684   and right now i have upgraded to jaunty
[04:56] <scunizi> krammer_: np.. synaptic should be the first choice always.. after that.. compiling from source or perhaps locating a .deb from a reputable source
[04:57] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: sorry havent got a clue about Jaunty
[04:57] <AK_Dave> AussieGuy: Do you have a linux console on this machine now?
[04:57] <lstarnes> .24
[04:57] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: You need to ask Jaunty questions on #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <AussieGuy> yep running on the normal ubuntu but not the cloned one
[04:58] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; it isn't about jaunty..the problem is with screen resolution that started from intrepid
[04:58] <AussieGuy> wanting to change to the cloned one
[04:58] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; and still existing in jaunty also
[04:58] <AK_Dave> AussieGuy: Then it would be easy to do 'blkid' and compare those UUID codes with the ones in fstab and menu.lst
[04:58] <pc> PerryArmstrong: what does xrandr -q report?
[04:58] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: in Interpid its ok to leave your xorg.conf empty
[05:00] <PerryArmstrong> pc, outbackwifi; can you check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/156304/
[05:00] <deemo> hey guys! i just updated to jaunty, but my top menu bar for every maximized app is gone! It does this with bth compiz and metacity. Any pointers?
[05:00] <alphaaquilae> how to proceede to move from 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[05:01] <coder_> When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get  a error/warning pulseaudio configured  for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?
[05:01] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: Thats a nice log of a mistyped command. The command you wanted was 'dkpg-reconfigure' not 'dpkg --reconfigure'
[05:01] <PerryArmstrong> alphaaquilae; check this http://ossarchives.blogspot.com
[05:01] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: You also could have tried 'man dpkg' or even, as suggested in the screencap, 'dpkg --help'
[05:02] <Junior> oi
[05:02] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: its actually sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[05:02] <coder_> When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get  a error/warning pulseaudio configured  for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?
[05:02] <Junior> Ola
[05:02] <alphaaquilae> can you give a link for 9.04 ?
[05:02]  * AK_Dave points all Jaunty questions to #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <^Phantom^> hey
[05:02] <outbackwifi> !es| Junior
[05:03] <^Phantom^> in gimp
[05:03] <bwm> hi, I'm having an issue with my wireless not connecting on an Inspiron 1525 after u/g to 8.04  Some preliminaries here http://pastebin.com/m38edd7dd
[05:03] <^Phantom^> is there any way to copy pixels
[05:03] <^Phantom^> ?
[05:03] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; thanks..i'll just restart and it if it has helped
[05:03] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: np
[05:03] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: Just restart X. Faster. No reboot!
[05:03] <coder_> When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get  a error/warning pulseaudio configured  for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?
[05:04] <AK_Dave> coder_: #ubuntu+1
[05:04] <outbackwifi> jaunty| coder_
[05:04] <outbackwifi> !jaunty| coder_
[05:04] <mib_3qs0gm> hi
[05:04] <PerryArmstrong> AK_Dave; how to restart X
[05:04] <mib_3qs0gm> i need help w/ something... my system freaked on me, required a manual fsck
[05:04] <mib_3qs0gm> now i'm worried about getting it back to normal, any help?
[05:05] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: With Intrepid: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[05:05] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: in your case, just start x not restart :)
[05:05] <pc> ^Phantom^: copy what pixels?
[05:05] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: im assuming you dont have X running
[05:05] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: Yeah, thats safer.
[05:05] <alphaaquilae> where is source.list in the hd ?
[05:05] <AK_Dave> alphaaquilae: you mean sources.list ??
[05:05] <outbackwifi> alphaaquilae: /etc/apt/
[05:06]  * AK_Dave doesn't have a source.list but has a /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <alphaaquilae> thx outbackwifi
[05:06] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; i dont know anything about that
[05:06] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: then you neednt worry
[05:06] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: X is the GUI. Do you have a GUI or just a big text console?
[05:06] <bwm> am I in the right channel for wifi help?
[05:06] <PerryArmstrong> AK_Dave; i have gui
[05:07] <outbackwifi> bwm: not unless its inside ubuntu
[05:07] <bwm> hmmm.... I'm thinking it is
[05:07] <bwm> it worked before in 7.X
[05:08] <outbackwifi> bwm: it still works
[05:08] <AK_Dave> bwm: Your paste doesn't give any information about  your wifi hardware or installed kernel modules. Do 'lspci -vvnn'
[05:08] <ubuntu9> when is the new links to 9.04 going to show on the east coast
[05:08] <bwm> will do
[05:09] <koolkartik> Is Ubuntu 9.0.4 released?
[05:09] <outbackwifi> !jaunty| coder_
[05:09] <ubuntu9> needs to be!!!
[05:09] <deemo> hey guys! i just updated to jaunty, but my top menu bar for every maximized app is gone! It does this with both compiz and metacity. Any pointers?
[05:09] <outbackwifi> !jaunty| deemo
[05:09] <outbackwifi> sowe coder_
[05:09] <AK_Dave> deemo: #ubuntu+1
[05:09] <dadoy> hi
[05:09] <deemo> AK_Dave: gotcha, thanks
[05:09] <bwm> AK_Dave see http://pastebin.com/m54e7dbec
[05:10] <brand0con> how do i recover my nick password on freenode?
[05:10] <anooptp> hai everybody
[05:10] <Pici> brand0con: Join #freenode and ask
[05:10] <outbackwifi> !hi| anooptp
[05:10] <anooptp> i am new in ubuntu
[05:11] <anooptp> i have a sound problem
[05:11] <outbackwifi> !enter| anooptp
[05:11] <anooptp> i had no sound for last 3 day
[05:11] <AK_Dave> bwm: You have an Intel 3945ABG. It has good linux support. It should have loaded automatically.
[05:12] <anooptp> no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected
[05:12] <bwm> hmmm....
[05:12] <celthunder> anooptp, do you have it muted (check alsamixer)
[05:12] <anooptp> no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected
[05:12] <outbackwifi> bwm: it is loaded hence the output of iwconfig; you just need to ensure you have the encryptions matched etc etc
[05:12] <bwm> AK_Dave - I went to the Dell support website - they mentioned that the wifi LED needed to be patched - I did that
[05:12] <anooptp> wen i use live cd there is sound
[05:13] <bwm> AK_Dave: but the LED light still does not come on
[05:13] <bwm> outbackwifi: can you elaborate?
[05:13] <anooptp> celthunderpls help me
[05:13] <bwm> outbackwifi: ah, you mean the WEP & all that
[05:14] <AK_Dave> bwm: Your paste didn't include what modules you're using. lspci -vvnn should be more verbose than that.
[05:14] <pc> anooptp: what did you change 3 days ago?  :-)
[05:14] <koolkartik> :_
[05:14] <koolkartik> :)
[05:14] <anooptp> nothing
[05:14] <outbackwifi> bwm: your wireless card is working. in fact if you run sudo iwlist eth1 scanning, it should show you the scan results. you just need to configure the wireless settings in your  network manager
[05:14] <zerothis> I vaguely recall from my redhat 5.0 days, finding an insane option to 'do not automount' a partition. (insane cuz I could barely manage to manually mount anything, why disable the possibility). Does xubuntu have a similar option, I'd rather not have an ntfs partition mounted without a good reason first
[05:15] <outbackwifi> zerothis: comment it out in your /etc/fstab
[05:15] <AK_Dave> bwm: I think your kernel module is 'iwlwifi' and should be listed in lsmod
[05:15] <bwm> outbackwifi: got iwlist: unknown command `eth1' (check 'iwlist --help').
[05:15] <anooptp> any help
[05:16] <thebackwash> The evening hangs beneath the moon
[05:16] <thebackwash> A silver thread on darkened dune
[05:16] <thebackwash> With closing eyes and resting head
[05:16] <thebackwash> I know that sleep is coming soon
[05:16] <thebackwash> Upon my pillow, safe in bed
[05:16] <FloodBot2> thebackwash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <thebackwash> A thousand pictures fill my head
[05:16] <outbackwifi> bwm: that command works for me (ubuntu 8.10)
[05:17] <outbackwifi> bwm: what exactly did you type?
[05:17] <AK_Dave> bwm: Oh, wait. You have the ethernet cable plugged in, right?
[05:17] <zerothis> outbackwifi: and it will not ever come back, unless I uncomment it?
[05:17] <bwm> confirmed it's in lsmod
[05:17] <outbackwifi> zerothis: yes
[05:17] <bwm> AK_Dave: yep, otherwise I would not be IRC
[05:18] <Lartza_> Do usb wlan adapters and repeaters break often?
[05:18] <AK_Dave> bwm: And thats why your wireless isn't connecting to your router.
[05:18] <bwm> AK_Dave: ts from the machine, maybe should have mentioned that
[05:18] <Lartza_> OR are they long term solution?
[05:18] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: i dont think thats correct at all; these two arent related
[05:18] <zerothis> outbackwifi: cool, thanks
[05:18] <will__> yo
[05:19] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: I've never had Network Manager allow me to have a wifi connection on my laptops if I have a wired ethernet connection.
[05:19] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: funny, i have it all  the time
[05:19] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: though you have to have the two on separate networks
[05:19] <jh_ubuntu> i have some problemd
[05:20] <ags> hi
[05:20] <jh_ubuntu> about klm
[05:20] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: If both are auto and connecting to the same router... no workie.
[05:20] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: how else would you be able to run hostapd etc?
[05:20] <paul68> AK_Dave: I work with wifi and it works like a charm on my laptop
[05:20] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: what wont work is the routing but association with router, no problem
[05:21] <outbackwifi> bwm: in any case, when you click on network manager do you see a list of access points?
[05:21] <syntax\> outbackwifi: i was able to make it work
[05:21] <syntax\> wee
[05:21] <outbackwifi> syntax\: the printer?
[05:21] <Z3ro3X> What time zone is 9.04 being released on?
[05:21] <outbackwifi> syntax\: what did you do?
[05:21] <syntax\> yes
[05:21] <syntax\> did an update
[05:22] <syntax\> then downloaded a stand alone driver
[05:22] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: haven't tried it since hardy. used to be I'd have a wireless connection, plug the cable in, and wireless would drop and I'd pick back up with a wired connection with a short delay.
[05:22] <bwm> outbackwifi: I see the Wired Network, Connect to 802.1X protected... , and Manual config
[05:22] <Anacranom>  tried to add a network printer shared on a windows box- received message- "There were no print shares found.  Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration. To do this, select System->Administration->Firewall from the main menu." But there is no "Firewall" there, and i edited the menu and there's no option to add it, anyone know where this is?
[05:22] <outbackwifi> bwm: when you right-click is 'Enable Wireless' checked?
[05:23] <Lartza_> i can't find wireless repeaters anywhere on net and i don't even know what is it in my language :S
[05:23] <coder_> how can i enter the room ubuntu+1
[05:23] <zerothis> outbackwifi: so what if its not in /etc/fstab/?
[05:23] <AK_Dave> coder_: /join #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <outbackwifi> coder_: just type /join #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <bwm> outbackwifi: it has Enable Networking checked - only option
[05:23] <coder_> thanks
[05:24] <outbackwifi> bwm: huh? no wireless at all? then back to square one. Your wireless card is not enabled... :)
[05:24] <celthunder> lalrtza you can get a repeater by buying one of those cheap linksys wrt54gs they call a "router" and flash it with dd-wrt and then itll have reapeater mode (not e it also supposedly has vlans and other stuff though how you can have a vlan in a router which would kind of defeat the purpose of a router (broadcast domains..) and make it more of a switch (collision domain divider) not sure...though the repeater thing works cause im using one right now for
[05:24] <celthunder>  that
[05:24] <racecar56> bye
[05:24] <zhanx> after much effort my optical output is working on my razor card
[05:24] <bwm> outbackwifi: yeah, I've been going through various forums on the web, and trying things, but no cigar, hence my presence ;)
[05:25] <space_cadet> arrgh
[05:25] <paul68> outbackwifi: could it be that his wifi driver is in the restricted hardware driver list?
[05:25] <AK_Dave> bwm: But iwlwifi should have been loaded and enabled from the start. Should have been you just L-click the nm-applet icon, click your network name, and connect.
[05:25] <jtth> so i have a question: where the hell is 9.04
[05:25] <philsf> is there a way to make network-manager set up network connections before login? including protected wifi ones?
[05:26] <AK_Dave> jtth: /join #ubuntu+1
[05:26] <tritium> jtth: easy there, please
[05:26] <paul68> !jaunty
[05:26] <overshard> While using my USB Audia DAC/AMP why am i getting this error when using alsa "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback." and it works fine on oss o.O
[05:26] <AK_Dave> philsf: That would not be secure.
[05:26] <Lux215> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 8.10, sort of new to it, and am using AWN, so I have no need for the top gnome panel, how do I delete it completely?
[05:26] <sara_> I have a problem in gnome where I changed a resoultion setting and my display is now garbled , same on reboot , went to /etc/X11 and looked at xorg.conf but there was to of them , because i installed ati fglrx one was called that and one xorg.failsafe (none called backup)
[05:26] <bwm> this would be a lot easier if I knew what I was doing :D
[05:26] <dadoy> exit
[05:26] <pc> Lux215: right click -> Delete Panel ?
[05:26] <celthunder> lux215 right click on it and go to delete
[05:27] <sara_> and now i trie dthe command cp xorg.failfe over the xorg.fglrx and it took but did not correct
[05:27] <celthunder> pc beat me to it lol
[05:27] <pc> celthunder: great minds...
[05:27] <philsf> AK_Dave, I disagree. Do you know how can I do it?
[05:27] <Lux215> Works for all of the panels except the very last one...
[05:27] <AK_Dave> sara_: Is it possible that fglrx doesn't properly support your hardware?
[05:27] <Lux215> I don't want to hide it, I want a cleaner look.
[05:27] <sara_> now i have 2 of the same can I reinstall xorg.conf ? to get it back to the way I had it before fglrx attempt ?
[05:28] <celthunder> lux215 go into the disettings menu under applications and go to panel
[05:28] <AK_Dave> sara_: You could 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reverse it.
[05:28] <celthunder> Lux215, you can resize,move, and change your panels look from there
[05:28] <paul68> where can you find the mails stored in thunderbird?
[05:28] <paul68> on the harddrive
[05:28] <sara_> AK_Dave thanks a million
[05:28] <josh977> God, I hate ATI
[05:28] <celthunder> josh977, why?
[05:28] <sara_> AK_Dave I had to come to kde to type eher
[05:29] <sara_> here
[05:29] <Lux215> celthunder where do I find the disettings menu
[05:29] <Lux215> i'm sort of new to this
[05:29] <celthunder> Lux215, under applications...
[05:29] <sara_> can I do it here within KDE , dumb question I know
[05:29] <josh977> Work issued laptop with ATI. Everything at my work has ATI. Always have problems with it on Linux.
[05:29] <celthunder> sara yes you can open a terminal
[05:29] <sara_> thx
[05:29] <outbackwifi> paul68:  .thunderbird/default.qre/Mail/  where default.qre is the profile folder (yours could be different)
[05:29] <celthunder> josh977, my stuff works fine...though i have an nvidia chipset motherboard ati graphics card....
[05:29] <Lux215> Celthunder... I don't have an applications button
[05:30] <Lartza_> I am wondering is lan that bad to penetrate eg. walls?
[05:30] <paul68> outbackwifi: thanks
[05:30] <sara_> "  Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "
[05:30] <celthunder> Lartza_, what?
[05:30] <AK_Dave> brb, 2yo peed on me
[05:30] <ipodman715> lol
[05:30] <ubuntunoobneedin> my package manage says i have thunderbird installed but i cannot find it where would it be
[05:30] <Lartza_> I have an apartment about...10 meters long and wlan can't reach from side to side
[05:30] <celthunder> Lux215, look around in your system menu then
[05:30] <outbackwifi> ubuntunoobneedin: Applications->Internet
[05:31] <Lartza_> And I just found out its cheapest to move my router to middle of apartment and buy 3 wlan adapters
[05:31] <paul68> AK_Dave: you should use diapers for this matter ;-)
[05:31] <celthunder> Lartza_, your nic is broken or your wireless router is
[05:31] <sara_> AK_Dave "  Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "
[05:31] <outbackwifi> Lartza_: that really sucks
[05:31] <AK_Dave> paul68: 2yo, training
[05:31] <outbackwifi> sara_: hes gone to clean up
[05:31] <sara_> AK_Dave  is the question it asks
[05:31] <bwm> outbackwifi: ok, so punt?
[05:31] <AK_Dave> sara_: sure
[05:31] <paul68> AK_Dave: training to be clean I get it same problem here hehehe
[05:31] <Lux215> Celthunder no disettings
[05:32] <celthunder> Lux215, look in system/administration then if you are in gnome itsp robably under that
[05:32] <Lartza_> Well was this when I had my ZyXel... now I have Wippies box which is basically modified Bewan
[05:32] <mrjohns> Is 9.04 released ? 23 is the date, but I don't see anything on the page.
[05:32] <AK_Dave> Lartza_: install dd-wrt on wifi router, boost the output to max legal.
[05:32] <pragad7> hello drivers problem(i guess) cannot enabel desktop effects. no dricvers are to be found in system>administration>hardware drivers
[05:32] <sara_> okay so now its done and so gnome should be back to baseline if i reboot ?
[05:32] <meshuggah_> in how many hours, 9.04 will be stable?
[05:32] <Lartza_> AK_Dave: It isn't made for my box sadly :(
[05:33] <paul68> !jaunty
[05:33] <zhanx> like meshuggah_ ubuntu+1
[05:33] <Lux215> Celthunder when i go into gconf-editor i have found where the panel is, it won't let me delete it
[05:33] <AK_Dave> Lartza_: naughty router
[05:33] <Lartza_> I've looked into that dd-wrt thing
[05:33] <sara_> thanks a million IRC gods and goddesses !!!
[05:33] <Lartza_> And also I coudln't change after next fall
[05:33] <AK_Dave> sara_: It works now, right?
[05:33] <celthunder> Lartza_, use it...though some of the functions it puts on i doubt work.
[05:33] <celthunder> Lux215, why not?
[05:34] <pragad7> hello anyone anything about not being able to enable desktop effeects
[05:34] <pragad7> help please
[05:34] <Lux215> celthunder not sure... press delete, nothing, right click, no option to delete.
[05:34] <Lartza_> but should router get 10 meter and through 4-6 walls?
[05:34] <paul68> !ask |pragad7
[05:34] <AK_Dave> Lartza_: Mine does
[05:34] <Tetracomm> I'm writing an article about old computers on my website, and about how Ubuntu can be beneficial to poor people that can't afford to upgrade their old computers.
[05:34] <Lartza_> Hmm...
[05:34] <Tetracomm> :)
[05:34] <celthunder> Lartza_, yes im going through 3 floors and im doing just fine
[05:34] <KSho> a que horas sale el ubuntu nuevo??
[05:35] <Lartza_> then the usb adapters could have been bad too
[05:35] <AK_Dave> Lartza_: You could mod the antennae.
[05:35] <Lartza_> some a-link first without and then with antennas didnt work
[05:35] <bwm> hey, how come there's no releases planned beyond 9.04?
[05:35] <Lartza_> what about this? usb or pci?
[05:35] <AK_Dave> bwm: They are planned.
[05:36] <Lux215> i've been on multiple forums looking for an answer... looks like this one hasn't been solved yet...
[05:36] <paul68> !es | KSHo
[05:36] <bwm> AK_Dave: cool!
[05:36] <testbox_jaunty> is jaunty out yet anyone?
[05:36] <paul68> !jaunty
[05:36] <Xiaopi[work]> it's today already?
[05:37] <AK_Dave> bwm: 9.10 is planned for Oct of this year. Karmic Koala ??
[05:37] <Xiaopi[work]> omg i didn't feel theses 6months at all ~~
[05:38] <pragad7> any drivers compatibility expert here
[05:38] <pragad7> intel 945g ???
[05:38] <joserodrigo> hello...  please some help with wireless problem on 9.04
[05:39] <pragad7> u got 9.04 how
[05:39] <paul68> joserodrigo: go to #ubuntu+1
[05:39] <joserodrigo> the beta.. but updated every day
[05:39]  * outbackwifi gotta go
[05:39] <legolasw> Hi
[05:39] <cweagans> any idea what time the new Ubuntu release is coming out tomorrow? (and in what time zone?)
[05:39] <legolasw> Anyone know when will 9.04 release? I mean how much more hours?
[05:40] <pragad7> !jaunty ubottu
[05:40] <paul68> !jaunty |cweagans
[05:40] <usser> cweagans, even if it comes out tomorrow, you wont be able to upgrade, all server will be on their knees :)
[05:41] <celthunder> cweagans, its the 23rd so its out already
[05:41] <cweagans> usser: perhaps bit torrent would be a better alternative?
[05:41] <laburd> Hi ubuntu
[05:41] <laburd> 9.04 rules
[05:41] <cweagans> celthunder: it's the 23 for you.....still 22 for me
[05:41] <usser> cweagans, apt-p2p
[05:41] <bijit> one quick question... the meneu bar is missing in some of thr apps.. like synaptic and pidginn
[05:41] <cweagans> usser: don't have a working installation right now :(
[05:41] <user5> nerr
[05:41] <user5> nero
[05:42] <laburd> Im running 9.04 right now
[05:42] <usser> cweagans, no worries then, torrents are damn fast, i cant use it though, torrent is throttled here :)
[05:42] <user5> internet
[05:42] <BladeNBrocade> apt-p2p?
[05:42] <laburd> Will I have to reinstall when the Final version comes out
[05:42] <Tetracomm> Has anyone here already written about the benefits of using Ubuntu on a website?
[05:42] <BladeNBrocade> really?
[05:42] <legolasw> laburd, where you get 9.04? It is not released yet.
[05:42] <paul68> laburd: release candidate or final version?
[05:42] <cweagans> Tetracomm: you mean as a webserver? or the benefits of using Ubuntu as an OS?
[05:42] <bijit> rc
[05:42] <usser> BladeNBrocade, yep
[05:42] <lstarnes> legolasw: there are release candidates out
[05:43] <BladeNBrocade> usser: awesome,, would need to check that...
[05:43] <Tetracomm> As an OS, cweagans.
[05:43] <legolasw> RCs not the FCS
[05:43] <lstarnes> legolasw: however, it is probably best to wait for the final release
[05:43] <user5> nro 7
[05:43] <user5> nero 7
[05:43] <cweagans> Tetracomm: I'm sure it's been done, if not for Ubuntu, then for Linux in general
[05:43] <user5> buy
[05:43] <BladeNBrocade> usser: you know.. they say torrents are responsible for atLEAST 30% of internet traffic,,
[05:43] <space_cadet> bull
[05:44] <space_cadet> it's more around 50-60
[05:44] <usser> BladeNBrocade, nah, its porn... and not 30, 90%
[05:44] <laburd> It is release candidate
[05:44] <BladeNBrocade> i said atLEAST
[05:44] <laburd> If you download release candidate
[05:44] <AK_Dave> space_cadet: 50-60% is what I'd believe
[05:44] <laburd> it will update to 9.04 final automatically
[05:44] <space_cadet> Was scheduled for Apr, 25, 00:30 (Samoa time)
[05:44] <space_cadet> keeps getting delayed an hour
[05:44] <Tetracomm> I know, but I want to find someone with that who I can exchange links with.
[05:44] <wanglun> hello
[05:44] <BladeNBrocade> usser: i mean protocol wise not like demographs
[05:44] <space_cadet> now it's up to 2:00 am
[05:45] <space_cadet> the 25th
[05:45] <Anacranom>  tried to add a network printer shared on a windows box- received message- "There were no print shares found.  Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration. To do this, select System->Administration->Firewall from the main menu." But there is no "Firewall" there, and i edited the menu and there's no option to add it, anyone know where this is?
[05:45] <wanglun> i am a new one
[05:45] <BladeNBrocade> it can very well be 30 - 50 % of that torrent traffic is for downloading pron =)
[05:45] <celthunder> Anacranom, iptables -a should i believe list your firewall rules just look at that
[05:45] <wanglun> how about all of you ?
[05:45] <lstarnes> Anacranom: in that case it might not need to be marked as tristed
[05:45] <BladeNBrocade> no
[05:45] <BladeNBrocade> its iptables -L
[05:46] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, thanks :) figured someone would correct me if i got it wrong
[05:46] <lstarnes> Anacranom: if that fails, sudo iptables -L
[05:46] <wanglun> ok i need develop oj , so i want to use QT
[05:46] <BladeNBrocade> no probem -a is to append a rule .. so that will fail
[05:46] <Anacranom> lstarnes, the error says where to change it, but it's not there?
[05:46] <BladeNBrocade> without the rest of the arguments ofcourse =)
[05:46] <David_> hello
[05:47] <David_> when is 9.04 coming out?
[05:47] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, then he will need iptables -a for the next part :) turns out im 1/4 useful :)
[05:47] <lstarnes> Anacranom: it might be a different issue, like samba or the windows box being misconfigured
[05:47] <paul68> !jaunty
[05:47] <BladeNBrocade> cool beans
[05:47] <lstarnes> David_: sometime within the next 24 hours
[05:47] <David_> lstarnes, not at midnight of a specific timezone?
[05:47] <pragad7>  i am unable to turn on the desktop effects in ubuntu intrepid ibex
[05:48] <Anacranom> lstarnes, there is no System>Administration>Firewall...
[05:48] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: which do u like better iptables vs ipfw...
[05:48] <lstarnes> Anacranom: then ignore that particular part of the message
[05:48] <BladeNBrocade> eww GUI firewall management ::earls::
[05:48] <pragad7>   i am unable to turn on the desktop effects in ubuntu intrepid ibex.plese help
[05:48] <Shaan7> pragad7: which graphics card you have ?
[05:48] <BladeNBrocade> pragad7: is ur video card capable?
[05:49] <Anacranom> lstarnes, um... so its a bug?
[05:49] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, never used ipfw...cant compare them
[05:49] <wanglun> who know QT ? and please give me some introduce thank you
[05:49] <pragad7> shaan7 it is intel945g
[05:49] <Shaan7> wanglun: please visit #qt or #kde
[05:49] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: ah cool,, i kinda like ipfw better but i dont say that @ work.. might get mobbed
[05:49] <ubuntu9> its not out yet
[05:50] <lstarnes> Anacranom: the message may have been written for a different distro or it may assume that a graphical firewall manager is installed
[05:50] <pragad7> bladenbrocade graphics card is intel945g
[05:50] <Anacranom> lstarnes, if its in the image but is incorrect...
[05:50] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, hang on let me google it and look at it maybe ill give it a chance...the only people iw ork with think im nuts cause i dont use windows
[05:50] <BladeNBrocade> pragad7: i saw
[05:50] <lstarnes> Anacranom: it's not necessarily a bug
[05:50] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, so im not likely to get mobbed more than i already am
[05:50] <Shaan7> pragad7: try installing Compiz Config Settings Manager (ccsm) from synaptic and see if you can activate desktop effects using that ...
[05:50] <SunnyDP> hey guys, had 9.04 een released ?
[05:50] <lstarnes> SunnyDP: not yet
[05:51] <legolasw> Is it possible to clone an installed ubuntu from one machine to another?
[05:51] <legolasw> for example from my desktop to my laptop?
[05:51] <AK_Dave> legolasw: yes
[05:51] <SunnyDP> lstarnes: ok thanks brother, do you know what time GMT ?
[05:51] <legolasw> Can it reconfigure itself with new hardware?
[05:51] <AK_Dave> legolasw: But you don't always want to. Especially if the hardware is different.
[05:51] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: oh its cool,, i just like the syntax alot,, its the base firewall on FreeBSD,, which i was forced to learn,, my job is all RHEL/AIX/HP-UX
[05:51] <lstarnes> SunnyDP: I don't think anyone does
[05:51] <celthunder> legolasw, yes
[05:51] <wanglun> does anybody know oj ?
[05:51] <SunnyDP> lstarnes: LOL :D
[05:52] <BladeNBrocade> wanglun: simpson?
[05:52] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ah.  Where do you work
[05:52] <SunnyDP> BladeNBrocade: RHEL/AIX/HP-UX --> Lucky you :D
[05:52] <grendal_prime> is gutsy nolonger support of something?
[05:53] <legolasw> is there some tutorial for clonning? how to do it fast and easy...?
[05:53] <lstarnes> grendal_prime: I think its support ended this month
[05:53] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: i work for a managed service provider called IPsoft
[05:53] <wanglun> no
[05:53] <jhass840> Okay, so I have the jaunty beta installed on my system already.  If I run the update manager, does that mean I will be updated to the release candidate?
[05:53] <grendal_prime> sorrry that made no sence...is gutsy no longer supported...
[05:53] <grendal_prime> perfect.
[05:53] <grendal_prime> just what i needed right now
[05:53] <BladeNBrocade> SunnyDP: oh u think,, i dread clients using HP-UX... no bash
[05:53] <wanglun> online judge
[05:54] <wanglun> acm online judge this summer i should develop it
[05:54] <SunnyDP> BladeNBrocade: hehe :D sh, csh and ksh only?
[05:54] <BladeNBrocade> SunnyDP: yea and sh
[05:54] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, im looking at your website...big company huh?
[05:54] <lstarnes> grendal_prime: you should still be able to upgrade it to 8.04 using the old-releases.ubuntu.com repos
[05:54] <BladeNBrocade> oh u put that
[05:54] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[05:54] <Anacranom> lstarnes, ok, my desktop has the same network printer , has no issues,
[05:54] <grendal_prime> ya but i have a laptop that will not work with 804
[05:54] <Flannel> jhass840: Currently, yes.
[05:54] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: u would think... its appr 500 - 700 not that big..
[05:54] <paul68> !clone |legolasw
[05:55] <grendal_prime> and this one will..but not very well it came with 710 preinstalled on it.
[05:55] <grendal_prime> i just didnt want to have to work out any hardware kinks this month.
[05:55] <tzanger> good evening; I'm running 8.10 and I'm just wondering how I can shut down X and move toward a text-only login (temporarily, so I can update a video driver) -- I can reboot in single mode but that's a little more than I think I need
[05:55] <jhass840> Flannel: can I update to the full release like that or do I need to install that manually?
[05:56] <tzanger> there isn't an option to drop to a text mode in the options menu (sessions) at all
[05:56] <xMopx> When does 9.04 come out today?
[05:56] <grendal_prime> tzanger: man ...ok ctrl alt f2
[05:56] <BladeNBrocade> yep logging terminal...
[05:56] <grendal_prime> to get back to x its ctrl alt f7
[05:56] <rrowell> installing 8.10, I must have typed the password in wrong twice in a row because after the boot I can't login
[05:57] <BladeNBrocade> maybe u typed password in caps?
[05:57] <rrowell> i followed the instructions here : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-reset-forgotten-root-password/
[05:57] <jhass840> xMopx: yeah, but probably not until the work day begins.  I figure cannonical wants to make sure they're in the office in case something goes wrong
[05:57] <yo> df
[05:57] <grendal_prime> rrowell: your not trying to ...ya try the caps also i hope your not using a root user..
[05:57] <rrowell> the problem is the recovery menu is buggy
[05:57] <grendal_prime> cause it has NO password.
[05:57] <xMopx> jhass840: ah that makes sense, thanks.
[05:57] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, really...says you guys do vmware...ive got a wierd issue with it care to help for a second? (workstation vmware btw..i get it free from classes (im a networking student atm though im doing an internship this summer)
[05:57] <grendal_prime> and not a blank password..but NO password
[05:57] <Geoffrey2> where are they located out of, anyway?
[05:57] <tzanger> grendal_prime: sure, I know how to do that
[05:57] <tzanger> I can get a CLI, but X is still running
[05:58] <tzanger> I tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:58] <grendal_prime> kill x
[05:58] <tzanger> but X is still there as is gdm-greeter
[05:58] <syntac> hi, i just removed fusion-icon/compiz and now i can no longer ctrl+alt+{left,right} to move my virtual desktop.  any idea? (i don't want compiz anymore, just normal gnome)
[05:58] <rrowell> so how do I get to a root shell without the stupid buggy recovery menu?
[05:58] <tzanger> grendal_prime: it will start back up
[05:58] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: yep we do VMware.. i more so manage ESX but.. i just graduated too =) we used vmware workstation their so i may be able to assist
[05:58] <Flannel> rrowell: that's.... a rather poor way to do it.
[05:58] <syntac> rrowell: open a normal one and run `sudo su -`
[05:58] <grendal_prime> just run your upgrade..
[05:58] <Flannel> rrowell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  That's a much easier and better way to reset a lost password.
[05:58] <grendal_prime> restart x
[05:58] <grendal_prime> ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:59] <tzanger> grendal_prime: I'm aware of those tricks... this isn't a simple upgrade
[05:59] <tzanger> it's ATI's idiotic drivers
[05:59] <grendal_prime> edit your config whatever..
[05:59] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: internships are good... very good
[05:59] <tzanger> I need to uninstall a half dozen debs, install new ones and re-run aticonfig
[05:59] <Bill_Gates> whens ubuntu 9.04 out
[05:59] <Flannel> !party | Bill_Gates
[05:59] <tzanger> so this is why I'm trying to shut down X nicely so I can perform these tasks, and then reswtart it
[05:59] <Anacranom> !jaunty
[05:59] <grendal_prime> http://theos.in/news/ubuntu-linux-shutdown-the-x-server/
[05:59] <KingKimi> how do i install xp into virtualbox ?
[06:00] <grendal_prime> try that
[06:00] <KingKimi> i have xp sp3
[06:00] <grendal_prime> tzanger:  that was for you
[06:00] <KingKimi> the virtual box from sun
[06:00] <kebomix1> so , guys , when ubuntu 9.04 releasae , how can i share same programs and home when i install 9.04 fresh install  ?
[06:00] <HappyHobo> Jackelope is the proper spelling JACKrabbit antELOPE.  It's jackelope.
[06:00] <paul68> !jaunty
[06:00] <BladeNBrocade> KingKimi: the same u would install it on a computer.. but in the VBOX
[06:00] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ok this issue happened randomly when i was on  an actual vista install before too using a different motherboard and different connection (cables/etc though same isp/etc) .  Ok in 6.5.1 they added directx support for games ok.  Well the games do work like i goet 140 fps in cs:s but the internet lags out like it only sends REALLY slow....though incoming seems to be fine.  No other applications other than the normal are using the internet
[06:00] <celthunder> (normal being xchat, and the broadcasts for arp etc)
[06:00] <Flannel> !cloning | kebomix1
[06:00] <AK_Dave> KingKimi: Well, you open your Virtualbox manager and click 'New'
[06:00] <tzanger> grendal_prime: yes, it's just suggesting /etc/init.d/gdm stop, which is what ai'd tried already. the frist thing I tried in fact.  :-)  I appreciate the help, but that doesn't seem to do it
[06:00] <tzanger> I'l try the runlevel next
[06:01] <grendal_prime> ya
[06:01] <KingKimi> !virtualbox > KingKimi
[06:01] <HappyHobo> Can someone see what version of AfterStep Ubuntu has currently?
[06:01] <grendal_prime> if it doesnt go into runlevel 2 it shouldnt start x
[06:01] <lstarnes> HappyHobo: aptitude show afterstep
[06:01] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, like the speed foru pload would instead of being the full 50kb would be like 5-10 and...yeah it just doesnt use networking properly.  Ive tried it with NAt invmware and bridged...different network cards...eetc
[06:01] <tzanger> yeah init 1/2 do it, but man that's a nasty way around it :-)
[06:02] <tzanger> grendal_prime: thanks for the help :-)
[06:02] <HappyHobo> I'm not using lstarnes ubuntu.  It's a deciding factor to whether or not I switch to Ubuntu.
[06:02] <tmadden> this is the ubuntu help channel correct
[06:02] <Flannel> HappyHobo: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:02] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, BUT like uploading torrents, downloading torrents uploading pictures etc all worked fine....at normal speed..just the directx apps would do that
[06:02] <Flannel> tmadden: correct
[06:02] <tmadden> can some onr please help me
[06:02] <HappyHobo> thanks Flannel
[06:02] <BassKozz> Need help, rsync problems; I keep getting "file has vanished" errors and I can't rsync from samba share to local dir... full error message: rsync warning: some files vanished before they could be transferred (code 24) at main.c(1058) [sender=3.0.3]
[06:02] <paul68> !ask |tmadden
[06:02] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: so if i understand you correctly you have a latency on the VM network which isn't apparently from the VM...ahh only DirectX in a VM??
[06:02] <Shaan7> tmadden: ask you question directly, no need to "ask to ask"
[06:03] <lstarnes> HappyHobo: in 8.04, 8.10, or 9.04?
[06:03] <AK_Dave> KingKimi: Do you have Virtualbox installed? Do you have a CD or iso for the OS you want to install? Open Virtualbox and click 'New'. It practically walks you through it. Is there a particular step that stumps you?
[06:03] <tmadden> i am running ubuntu 8.10 how do i open a text editor as root
[06:03] <kebomix1> !automate
[06:03] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, yeah only the directx applications do that...
[06:03] <AK_Dave> tmadden: sudo nano
[06:04] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, which makes me so fustrated cause i cant figure out why directx would affect latency...
[06:04] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: if thats correct,, sound / video can be variable in VMs depending on the platform and build of the system performance wise,, also,, just to confirm was the base OS linux? or was it windows on windows?
[06:04] <Shaan7> tmadden: or if you want to use gedit graphical text editor, use "sudo gedit" in the terminal, though running gui programs as root is not recommended
[06:04] <HappyHobo> thanks oh shit who was that
[06:04] <lstarnes> HappyHobo: afterstep 2.2.8-2 is in ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04.  2.2.7-2 is in 8.04
[06:04] <AK_Dave> Shaan7: Technically, 'gksu gedit' is the preferred syntax.
[06:05] <lstarnes> HappyHobo: there may be PPA's with newer versions
[06:05] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ive tried linux base windows on top and windows on windows (Windows on windows worked SOMEWHAT like it would work for about 5-10 minutes and then do the same thing the linux ones do)
[06:05] <Shaan7> AK_Dave: oops, yeah, thanks :)
[06:05] <ProgramError1> any suggestions on running a pxe server without configuring the dhcp-server, i would like to keep my router im using
[06:05]  * Shaan7 was using kde for a long time it seems :P
[06:05] <BladeNBrocade> strange.. are u running vmtools?
[06:05] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, yes
[06:05] <HappyHobo> I'm glad to see Ubuntu still support AfterStep.
[06:06] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, and graphics card ive tried both nvidia 8600GT and ati hd4850 both were the 1gb models (ive got the ati in atm)
[06:06] <lstarnes> HappyHobo: there hasn't been a reason to remove it from the repos
[06:06] <AK_Dave> Shaan7: So would that be 'kdsu kate'?
[06:07] <KingKimi> AK_Dave, no.. i am downloading now ,..... have the xp cd
[06:07] <hannerpc> hey there is there a good techie online that can give me a hand?
[06:07] <celthunder> hannerpc, with?
[06:07] <ProgramError1> any suggestions on running a pxe server without configuring the dhcp-server, i would like to keep my router im using
[06:07] <Flannel> AK_Dave, Shaan7: kdesu kate
[06:07] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: ok.. in this case the discussion could get very verbose.. i would first review the resources being allocated to the VM's.. how much memory/cpu etc.. next u can review the actual guest OS configuration,, possibly update it and checking logs/ process tables etc etc while ur running directX,,
[06:07] <AK_Dave> hannerpc: depends
[06:07] <BassKozz> Need help, rsync problems; I keep getting "file has vanished" errors and I can't rsync from samba share to local dir... full error message: rsync warning: some files vanished before they could be transferred (code 24) at main.c(1058) [sender=3.0.3]
[06:07] <genii> ProgramError1: bootp ... if you know the MAC of the client
[06:07]  * AK_Dave dumped using kde when 4.0 came out
[06:07] <Geoffrey2> do I remember correctly that moonlight is included with jaunty?
[06:07] <He-man> Hello folks:)
[06:07] <Shaan7> AK_Dave: as Flannel said :)
[06:08] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: i believe there is a directX troubleshooting program on windows actually.. possibly running this in the VM would point u in the proper direction.. have u checked that?
[06:08] <[Snipe]> where is ubuntu 9.04, its April 23rd!
[06:08] <ProgramError1> genii, it would be changed all the time
[06:08] <AK_Dave> Shaan7: When I did use kde, I still did 'sudo nano' because I just like nano.
[06:08] <Flannel> !party | [Snipe]
[06:08] <He-man> How do I register my nickname.  I tried /msg NickServe Register, and then I typed a name.
[06:08] <ProgramError1> im trying to do this instead of burning live cd's all the time
[06:08] <Flannel> He-man: nickserv, not nickserve
[06:08] <lstarnes> He-man: NickServ, without the E at the end
[06:08] <ProgramError1> and other installs that are commonly used
[06:08] <He-man> Flannel: Ah, thanks:)
[06:09] <He-man> Istarnes:  Thanks:)
[06:09] <Shaan7> AK_Dave: yeah, just told him because he might be looking a way to use gedit, and by the way, nano is my fav too !
[06:09] <BladeNBrocade> being that vmware workstation on virtualizes the hardware its hard to tell what was detected and what is being used.. for instance.. in your vid card settings,, do u actually see the nvidia or ati card being used,, or do u see some generic device?
[06:09] <hannerpc> trying to get the Nvidia driver to work on a new install of Ubuntu - did updates, downloaded and activated driver, on reboot the display comes up as a fraction of line on the top of the monitor. Ran the (recovery?) option and back to where it is visable, but can't get the driver to activate and work - Oh using 17' LCD monitor.
[06:09] <[Snipe]> thanks
[06:09] <genii> ProgramError1: You can plug a router in and use it's MAC for the bootp. Whatever clients are on it just get nat'd
[06:10] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, 3gb of ram assigned to the vm (8gb in the system atm total i could put in 12 if needed (i dont have enough 4gb sitcks to get to 16)) directx is working...unless there is some sort of networking thing in directx im not aware of...thought that was just graphics i see only a generic device though i do make sure the "accelerate graphics" option is checked...should i maybe use the onboard for the host system and give the video card really to
[06:10] <celthunder>  ONLY the guest....
[06:10] <Rusty_A1> !outyet
[06:10] <ProgramError1> genii, ok but wouldnt it always point to the router then instead of the computer that is serving the files?
[06:10] <celthunder> hannerpc, which card?
[06:10] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: possibly i was mistaken,, are these online games or just locally installed copies?
[06:10] <He-man> Flannel: What does this mean? "NOTICE NickServ: Insufficient parameters for REGISTER"?
[06:10] <lstarnes> He-man: you are not using the command correctly
[06:10] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, downloaded on the pc but you play on online servers
[06:11] <lstarnes> He-man: see "/msg nickserv help register" and http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[06:11] <celthunder> He-man, you didnt provide enough arguments...its /nickserv register "pass" "email"
[06:11] <lstarnes> He-man: also, #freenode is better for questions related to irc or freenode
[06:11] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: correct this is what i suspected.. in that case yes directX/networking have become dependant on each other..give me a second let me check something for you
[06:11] <ProgramError1> genii, ok but wouldnt it always point to the router then instead of the computer that is serving the files?
[06:11] <He-man> Istarnes:  Okay.  I'll have a look.
[06:12] <genii> ProgramError1: I haven't tried it through a router yet, but in principle it should work.
[06:12] <ProgramError1> genii, ok thanks
[06:12] <He-man> celthunder: Which email?  I don't think I have specified an email previously.
[06:12] <ProgramError1> ill try to figure this out then
[06:12] <hannerpc> celthunder not sure of chip version, its onboard, is there an equivilent to device manager or msinfo I can access?
[06:12] <AJNpa28> anybody know what command you use to load Ubuntu from a bash shell???
[06:12] <celthunder> hannerpc, lspci
[06:12] <ProgramError1> any recommendations on a tutorial?
[06:12] <lstarnes> He-man: use your own email address
[06:13] <lstarnes> He-man: it will be needed for a verification code and future password resets
[06:13] <celthunder> AJNpa28, if you are at a bash shell you are already IN an os...you cant load an os from an os without virtualization of some kind
[06:13] <He-man> Istarnes:  I see.  Cheers mate.
[06:13] <AJNpa28> ok
[06:13] <genii> ProgramError1: http://www.rhyshaden.com/dhcp.htm indicates it can work across routers
[06:13] <KingKimi> space_cadet, HI !
[06:13] <ProgramError1> thanks again
[06:13] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: what about the thing i asked about the actual ati or nvidia being used in vmware or when u go to ur installed hardware ur using a generic SVGA driver or VMwares.. have you checked that is not the case?
[06:14] <BladeNBrocade> s/or/of/
[06:14] <Amaeth> Hello
[06:14] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, it is using the generic driver.  the hardware is still emulated so thats ok though isnt it?
[06:14] <prodigy> so when is the new release coming out?
[06:14] <Amaeth> is true that in some servers the 910 is now downloadable?
[06:14] <celthunder> prodigy today
[06:15] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: not neccessarily..
[06:15] <KingKimi> space_cadet, :( ?
[06:15] <AnnonyMouse1> any idea what time Jaunty's coming out? I need to start downloading ISO's for tomorrows release party
[06:15] <prodigy> will there be xubuntu too? im more interested in that actually
[06:15] <hannerpc> celthunder - I appologize in advance, I am horribly new to linux/unix based shell is this where I should be?
[06:15] <hannerpc> root@mojo-desktop:/home/mojo# |spci
[06:15] <hannerpc> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'
[06:15] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: 64 or 32 bit system?
[06:15] <KingKimi> !isitout | AnnonyMouse1
[06:15] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, so you are saying networking and graphics became linked somehow?
[06:15] <celthunder> hannerpc, its an l not a |
[06:15] <prodigy> celthunder: thanks....today as in like right now cuz its already today :)
[06:15] <sata> hannerpc, its l
[06:15] <hannerpc> :$
[06:15] <lstarnes> prodigy: sometime today
[06:16] <Bill_Gates> not out yet
[06:16] <AJNpa28> i am having a problem with b43 broadcom firmware i know how to fix it, but everything reverts after reboot, wont write to disk, figured id like to enter gui from prompt without reboot
[06:16] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, 64 bit host 32 bit guest (8300 doesnt support 64 bit guest though if i need to i guess i can grab a q6600 and use a 64 bit guest....)
[06:16] <Amaeth> but in some #ubuntu channel they are people telling us that is downloading the 910 (not the rc)
[06:16] <He-man> Is there a specific room for querying OpenOffice.org?
[06:16] <celthunder> He-man, #openoffice.org
[06:17] <He-man> celthunder: Thanks:)
[06:17] <He-man> #openoffice.org
[06:17] <He-man> Oops
[06:17] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: yes in the world of whicever online game ur playing that is dependant on networking,, yes,, if ur are receiving a stream to display on ur local VM from the net.. then yes if there is a bottleneck in directX painting ur screen.. it can appear to be a networking issue.. similar to how many people on windows XP with 512MB and 1000 startup apps say the internet is slow
[06:17] <prodigy> so, just ubuntu today? or also kubuntu, xubuntu and eduubuntu?
[06:17] <He-man> lol, thats better:)
[06:18] <hannerpc> celthunder:  nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2)
[06:18] <AJNpa28> now this is a wubi install i dont know if thats why it wont write
[06:18] <celthunder> hannerpc, then dont use the latest nvidia driver go back one or two..the latest stops support atl ike 8000 or 7000 series i think
[06:18] <KingKimi> hp1020 is not prinintg. but its printing in xp./ help me :( all correctly plugged...... it shows in print dialog box .... but simpley stands..... it cannt print
[06:18] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ok ill try setting the graphics driver to a non generic one...thank you for your time.
[06:19] <toyo|desk> dose anyone know what time tomorrow 9.04 will be out?
[06:19] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: whats the cpu utilization while ur playing the game?
[06:19] <tgr> when i start ubuntu the lcd contrast is turned all the way down how do i change that so it is brighter?
[06:19] <thirdwheel_> toyo|desk, ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:19] <paul68> !party|toyo|desk
[06:19] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, like 40 percent...avg per core being like 20
[06:19] <toyo|desk> thanks paul68
[06:20] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, but i can only assign 2 cores to the vm not all 4 so thats not an accurate ....either way its not the cpu/ram its running out of
[06:20] <chris062689> Could anyone help me package up a DEB file?
[06:20] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: just wondering.. trying to cancel things out
[06:21] <Kiran_ur_frnd4u> hi
[06:21] <Rusty_A1> there's a guide to DEB packaging in the Ubuntu wiki.
[06:21] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: in ur setting in VMware have u enabled hardware acceleration?
[06:21] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ok it says vga ii 128mb of ram for the video device.. where do i increase that
[06:22] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, yes i enabled hardware acceleration
[06:22] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: that may be an issue as well
[06:22] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: in ur windows setting is hardware acceleration enabled?
[06:23] <SunnyDP> hey guys, i have TOTALLY lost my Trash icon, and i cannot put it back on the panel , even using the "Add to panel" option, any hints ?
[06:23] <AJNpa28> anyone know why everything i do at the prompt in a wubi install is lost after reboot? everything i do seems kosher before i reboot, things are where i move them packages are installed etc then reboot and bang whoosh deja vu, same as the day it was born.
[06:23] <chris062689> SunnyDP: You get an error message?
[06:24] <sejt1> hi
[06:24] <chris062689> AJNpa28: is your HDD mounted read-only?
[06:24] <SunnyDP> chris062689: nothing, just cant add the trash icon to the panel
[06:24] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: try this.. update the guest OS.. windows updates.. snapshot the VM just in case.. poweroff..disable hardware accel in the VM settings.. and boot up and run a direct X app with the windows process manager or the sysinternals process explorer running.. monitor which processes cause a spike
[06:25] <ZhouYu> what is the best code editing tool in ubuntu ? eclipse ? i want to code in php... in windows i am using e-texteditor
[06:25] <Aggrav8d> hello, everybody!  can I pm some stupid questions about adduser/usermod to someone for 10 minutes?  I need some 1:1 tutoring because I'm a moron who can't seem to google instructions.
[06:25] <SunnyDP> ZhouYu: jedit
[06:25] <Gnea> !trash | SunnyDP
[06:25] <chris062689> ZhouYu: gedit's a good one for GNOME.
[06:25] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ok ill do that hold on
[06:25] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: k
[06:25] <sejt1> when i use gksu nautikus   and move something to trash... the files are disapeard , but no free space!
[06:25] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: still googling... i would just call that a best practice for now..
[06:26] <Whitebelt> Thanks for your help people:)
[06:26] <ZhouYu> SunnyDP & chris062689 : ok thx... i'll try both of them :)
[06:26] <AJNpa28> dont know, how can i check. the only way i can add things to the tree is in the folders i can see in winows like custom install, and shared, other than that nothing will stick how would i check and change?
[06:26] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: in ur BASE System.. do u have the CPU virtualization option available and enabled in BIOS?
[06:26] <Gnea> sejt1: who's trash? regular user's or root's?
[06:26] <Trijntje> Hi all, how hard is it to use a different file manager in gnome? Cause nautilus is causing long login delay
[06:27] <RedMercury> use xterm
[06:27] <RedMercury> :)
[06:27] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[06:27] <BladeNBrocade> midnight commander hehe
[06:27] <RedMercury> xterm and mc
[06:27] <SunnyDP> Gnea: regular,  and all i want is to have it back in my panel, but it seems impossible
[06:27] <sejt1> trash for root      Gnea
[06:27] <RedMercury> heh
[06:27] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[06:27] <BladeNBrocade> RedMercury: so ur old school huh? =)
[06:27] <Gnea> SunnyDP: what's regular?
[06:27] <SunnyDP> Gnea: regular user trash
[06:28] <Gnea> sejt1: why would you bother with root's trash?
[06:28] <Gnea> SunnyDP: did you check to see if either of those directories exist?
[06:28] <SunnyDP> Gnea: they do, and when i "Add to panel" it does not add it
[06:28] <sejt1> Gnea because my external hard drive reached only this vay
[06:29]  * BladeNBrocade fires up vuze
[06:29] <Gnea> sejt1: are you a part of the disk group?
[06:29] <lenyel_> has anyone tried using xmonad with ubuntu 9.04 rc and had problems launching terminals?
[06:30] <Flannel> lenyel_: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[06:30] <sejt1> Gnea     where can i chek it please thnakyou
[06:30] <lenyel_> ok will try thanks
[06:30] <Gnea> sejt1: open a terminal and type: id
[06:31] <mrb__> Hello everybody..... anybody have any idea when the 9.04 ganna be online..
[06:31] <Flannel> mrb__: #ubuntu-release-party, thanks
[06:31] <c0l2e> how can I replace a certain text/string in a file using grep or sed??
[06:31] <HiveDrone> anyone know why xorg fails to start after activating the restricted ATI drivers? (Its some days ago I tried last, I should add)
[06:32] <sejt1> Gnea    ok       and?
[06:32] <sejt1> copy paste here?
[06:32] <mrb__> flannel, thanks
[06:32] <Gnea> sejt1: it should all be one line, so go ahead and paste that one line, please
[06:33] <Gnea> sejt1: if it's more than one line, then use pastebin
[06:33] <sejt1> jt1@hydra:~$ id
[06:33] <sejt1> uid=1000(sejt1) gid=1000(sejt1) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),123(admin),124(sambashare),1000(sejt1)
[06:34] <ela_> aiiight
[06:34] <munwin> :-)
[06:35] <BladeNBrocade> ;>
[06:37] <AJNpa28> if hard drive is mounted read only what command would i use from terminal to change it to write
[06:37] <Gnea> sejt1: alright, you're going to need to give yourself access to the disk group - System->Administration->Users & Groups, select yourself and modify your groups/properties
[06:37] <sejt1> ok  checkolom
[06:37] <Gnea> AJNpa28: sudo mount -n -o remount,rw /media/disk
[06:38] <sejt1> koszi/thank jou
[06:38] <ela_> does someone mind if i ask them noob ubuntu linux questions?
[06:38] <BladeNBrocade> ela_: no
[06:38] <Gnea> only if you ask to ask it :)
[06:38] <ela_> aiiight cool
[06:39] <Gnea> (btw this is irc, not the street :p )
[06:39] <Gnea> !ask
[06:39] <ela_> i just wanted to know if i had to type in the terminal to execute a bin file EVERY time i wanted to use the file
[06:39] <Gnea> nah
[06:40] <ela_> or is there some way to link it to something
[06:40] <Gnea> you could set the proper executable permissions, move it to the Desktop/ and double-click it everytime
[06:40] <profx> anyone good with DHCP in a Windows environment?
[06:40] <Gnea> like this:  chmod 700 file.bin && mv file.bin ~/Desktop
[06:40] <ubuntistas> when ubuntu it's gone be uploaded in the mirrors?
[06:40] <Gnea> profx: probably the people in #windows or #windows-server
[06:41] <Detonated> ela_, right click on ubuntu desktop and choose Create Launcher
[06:41] <BladeNBrocade> did someone saw dhcpd?
[06:41] <BladeNBrocade> s/saw/say/
[06:41] <Gnea> Detonated: he was asking about how to do it in the terminal
[06:41] <profx> Gnea, im asking in here
[06:41] <ela_> thanks guys
[06:41] <Gnea> !ot | profx
[06:41] <zippyfish> did the new relase came out yet..
[06:41] <BladeNBrocade> s/came/come/
[06:41] <Gnea> zippyfish: nope, check #ubuntu-release-party
[06:41] <profx> Gnea, dont get on my bad side, you wont like it
[06:42] <AJNpa28> cool if i can get this b43 fw to stick im gonna ditch windows alltogether, only machine i havent gotten linux to run on, my little laptop, ive set several people up, and my averatec turd refuses to boot without b43 firmware, and i havent been able to get it to stick. if this works i'll freak its been 2 months on and off
[06:42] <sejt1>  i didnt find     uhhhhh
[06:42] <Gnea> profx: pardon?
[06:42] <zippyfish> thx
[06:42] <Guest7389> hi.. how do i reset compiz and / or uninstall it completely from commandline?
[06:42] <Gnea> profx: don't start none, won't be none
[06:42] <BladeNBrocade> apt-get --purge remove compiz*
[06:42] <BladeNBrocade> sudo
[06:42] <profx> !ot | Gnea
[06:43] <bazhang> profx, stop that
[06:43] <profx> stop what bazhang?
[06:43] <Gnea> profx: right, so if you need help with Windows DHCP Server, ask in #windows or #windows-server
[06:43] <profx> typing messages into a channel?
[06:43] <profx> Gnea, repeating is both annoying an not useful
[06:43] <Jdban> I have a quick question I figured someone might know the answer to: how soon will 9.04 be released? (soon as in how many hours)
[06:43] <owen1> is there a site showing the packages and the versions of all the packages ubuntu 9.04 comes with?
[06:43] <BladeNBrocade> come on guys.. smile
[06:43] <BladeNBrocade> =)
[06:43] <Gnea> profx: you're not going to get any help by acting like this
[06:44] <profx> Gnea, maybe you just need to ignore any further comments from me, to save us both some time
[06:44] <rosepetal> hi.. how do i reset compiz and / or uninstall it completely from commandline? i accidentally set the opacity to 100% and now nothing shows
[06:44] <Gnea> profx: no problem there, if you'd stop making them and maybe say something more useful.
[06:44] <profx> and I will be more than happy to do the same, in return
[06:44] <vart> !outyet | Jdban
[06:44] <BladeNBrocade> rosepetal: apt-get --purge remove compiz*
[06:44] <Jdban> thank you ubottu
[06:45] <rosepetal> BladeNBrocade: will it remove all the effects as well?
[06:45] <Detonated> Jdban, http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[06:45] <BladeNBrocade> rosepetal: yes
[06:45] <profx> Gnea, saying something 'useful' in your eyes, isnt my purpose of being here, so just continue to do what you were doing before I dropped in
[06:45] <Kemeros> ubottu thx that was my question
[06:45] <dfs> how to import firefox addons from user account a to user acount b
[06:45] <Gnea> profx: just drop the attitude already.
[06:45] <fore> can someone tell me why, since i upgraded to 9.04 the flash player in my website doesnt display anymore?
[06:45] <fore> do i need to reinstall flash ?
[06:45] <profx> Gnea, stop posting messages to be, and it will 'drop'
[06:46] <profx> me*
[06:46] <g4lt-lappy> fore #ubuntu+1 can
[06:46] <sejt1> Gnea when i use   gksu nautilus i have rigts     but whn i erase filesin the trash  it cant work
[06:46] <maximo> !jaunty Jackalope
[06:46] <Gnea> profx: we can take this private, if you prefer.
[06:46] <dfs> how to import firefox addons from one suer account to another
[06:47] <profx> Gnea, take what to private exactly?
[06:47] <dfs> how to import firefox addons from one user account to another
[06:47] <BladeNBrocade> dfs maybe copying the .firefox file?
[06:47] <BladeNBrocade> directory rather
[06:47] <ela_> does anyone know how to add mp3's to an ipod, or what proper app to use?
[06:47] <dfs> how really new to commandlinepls give me the command
[06:47] <rosepetal> BladeNBroCade: did i mention i am unable to see anything on screen. i wont be able to see any of the prompts etc that come before the uninstall :S
[06:47] <profx> Gnea i insist you do not continue to annoy me
[06:47] <Gnea> !ipod | ela_
[06:47] <BladeNBrocade> !ipod | ela_
[06:48] <BladeNBrocade> argh
[06:48] <AJNpa28> phew ubottu farted
[06:48] <trippin> hi i was wondering if some one in here could tell me what i can do to fix my menu.lst file, i just upgraded to 9.04 and i'm still using uname -r
[06:48] <trippin> 2.6.27-11-generic
[06:48] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[06:48] <svensko> what's the ETA on 9.04?
[06:48] <Gnea> profx: or?
[06:48] <chris062689> How come http://releases.ubuntu.com/ is redirecting to http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/?
[06:48] <Gnea> ela_: see what ubottu told you
[06:48] <BladeNBrocade> its probably intended
[06:49] <paul68> in the home folder there are a lot of user definition folders like ./firefox or ./eclipse is my assumption correct when I do a fresh install of jaunty and replace the new user profile folders with the exsisting ones it will work like its working now or am I wrong?
[06:49] <ela_> ok
[06:49] <dfs> bladenbrocade please give methe command how to do it
[06:49] <BladeNBrocade> cp -r
[06:49] <g4lt-lappy> paul68, to some extent.  the directories aren't all-inclusive
[06:50] <BladeNBrocade> u may want to mv the existing .firefox file to .firefox.bak just incase
[06:50] <g4lt-lappy> and of course, there's no guarantees about version specific rc files
[06:50] <vart> tripping: use #ubuntu+1 channel
[06:50]  * BladeNBrocade shivers
[06:51] <paul68> g4lt-lappy: its just for the thunderbird settings keep my mails and stuff
[06:51] <g4lt-lappy> paul68, again, it should work, but there's too many variables to say it will
[06:51] <paul68> g4lt-lappy: ok thanks
[06:52] <BladeNBrocade> thats not going to work paul68 because those . file come as u install those apps.. u would need to build a exact replica of ur packages to even try that
[06:52] <maximo> where do I go to enable tab-completion?
[06:53] <BladeNBrocade> example i dont believe .eclips is a default package.. therefore the .eclipse folder would be useless,, and even when u installed eclipse i believe it would just write its own
[06:53] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: its just for thunderbird that I want to do this to make sure that I don't have to rebuild my folder structure and rules that I have set
[06:53] <BladeNBrocade> paul68: that may work..
[06:54] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: ok thanks
[06:54] <eugen_> hey I'm trying to start dansguardian, but I get this error: "
[06:54] <Guest4741> " * Starting DansGuardian dansguardianError connecting to parent proxy
[06:54] <Guest4741> "
[06:54] <Guest4741> what does that mean?
[06:54] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: is there a way to export rules from thunderbird?
[06:54] <JauntyFreak> release party channel?
[06:55] <trippin_>  hi i was wondering if some one in here could tell me what i can do to fix my menu.lst file, i just upgraded to 9.04 and i'm still using 2.6.27-11-generic rather then 2.6.28-11
[06:55] <g4lt-lappy> trithere's a specific channel for jaunty: #ubuntu+1.  use it
[06:55] <BladeNBrocade> paul68: good question,, i would check the menu,,there is a defined import submenu.. possible there u would see.. it sounds like something do able.. i would imagine that would be the GUI port to doing exactly what u are trying to do manually..
[06:55] <ubuntistas> when ubuntu it's gone be uploaded in the mirrors?
[06:55] <maximo> rather wait a couple of days to upgrade
[06:56] <g4lt-lappy> trippin, ^^^^^
[06:56] <JauntyFreak> whats the release partys channel link please
[06:56] <bazhang> !party
[06:56] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: ok thanks
[06:57] <maximo> where do I go to enable tab-completion?
[06:58] <g4lt-lappy> maximo, in what?
[06:59] <KingKimi> does anyone one about WIN4LIN ????? is it the same as of virtual box or different ???? or is it like wine ? or virtualbox ? or what ?
[06:59] <maximo> g4lt-lappy: mine is not enabled to like doing nick's completion or else....
[06:59] <blap> can someone please explain to me how I can install FiSH plugin for irssi!?
[07:00] <g4lt-lappy> maximo, again in what?  theere are about a dozen differen IRC clients
[07:01] <sejt1> error message   Gnea     Sorry, could not display all the contents of "trash": Operation not supported
[07:01] <maximo> g4lt-lappy: konversation
[07:01] <BladeNBrocade> paul68: looks like thunderbird has an extension for this as well
[07:01] <sejt1> after gksu
[07:01] <wolter> is there an irc client for linux as fancy as colloquy?
[07:01] <g4lt-lappy> maximo, hyou would choose the one I don't have any idea about.  sorry :(
[07:01] <Gnea> sejt1: did you get added to the disk group?
[07:02] <sejt1> no because i dont find
[07:02] <KingKimi> i am now installing xp into vbox.... but my mouse cannot get out of vbox ose ,,. though i clicked ctrl a 100 times :( ///// only window i am active is xchat (luckily) ... plz help me to get my mouse pointer
[07:02] <maximo> g4lt-lappy: will go type : --> g4lt {tab} no working
[07:03] <marktheflyingspa> anyone know if the new ubuntu jaubty is relaesed as a non beta today ?
[07:03] <KingKimi> !isitout
[07:03] <wolter> marktheflyingspa, tomorrow i guess
[07:03] <marktheflyingspa> opps jaunty
[07:03] <wolter> last time i saw it was 1 day remaining
[07:03] <madrazr> Amaranth: or any other admin, may be you need to set the topic this time too, "Jaunty is released, when it is released. Don't Ask". Like it was done for Intrepid :D
[07:03] <madrazr> LoL!
[07:04] <marktheflyingspa> thanks mate ... we get the days first in australia *S*
[07:04] <Gnea> sejt1: okay, this is what you need to do then:  sudo vigr   then look for a line like this one:  disk:x:6:  then add your username to the end of it, like this:  disk:x:6:sejt1  then save/exit, logout, login again and you shouldn't need to be root to read/write the disk
[07:04] <shantzu> any idea when 9.04 is going to come out? =)
[07:04] <Gnea> !jaunty | shantzu
[07:04] <KingKimi> can anyone help me to get my mouse outta vbox ose ???? i clicked control key 1000 times and it is not getting out :(
[07:05] <marktheflyingspa> THX for the info
[07:05] <BladeNBrocade> CTRL + SHIFT or some fuction like that usually release the mouse from vmachines KingKimi
[07:06]  * BladeNBrocade whispers "on laggy java remote consoles too"
[07:07] <tenzind> hi .. does ubuntu support upgrades from one release to another (without having to reinstall), like Debian does?
[07:07] <Flannel> tenzind: Of course
[07:07] <BladeNBrocade> tenzind: yes,, u can also turn debian to ubuntu
[07:08] <BladeNBrocade> tenzind: even though that has nothing to do with what u asked i thought it was relevant =)
[07:09] <reefer> Anyone here to help me with my wireless issue
[07:09] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  In gnome-do, when I'm indexing too many files, how do I make the error message stay visible for long enough time to read it?
[07:09] <tenzind> Flannel, and ubuntu also has the "unstable, testing, stable" releases?
[07:09] <Flannel> tenzind: No.
[07:10] <reefer> I am having a problem with weak wireless signal when i am like 10 feet from the router
[07:10] <dlozarie> good day, guys. I was just wondering if I could upgrade to 9.04 using the live cd, or if that only did installs?
[07:10] <enterneo> enterneo: I have a proxy server, which is listening on an arbitrary port, now I want to simulate the working of that proxy server, how do i send some dummy data on that port for a destined ip and then route back to the original sender, with the proxy working both ways, I will have the console echo the working in my proxy server implementation
[07:10] <BladeNBrocade> !wireless | reefer
[07:10] <mib_0da4stqv> hi all, ubuntu9.04 was supposed to be released today, did it ??
[07:10] <g4lt-lappy> mib_0da4stqv, /topic
[07:10] <karbo> is it out yet?!
[07:11] <g4lt-lappy> DIAF
[07:11] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[07:11] <tenzind> Flannel, so if i am no a stable ubuntu right now, can i not then shift into something like the debian testing, so that when that testing becomes stable, i would already have "stable" ?
[07:11] <Flannel> !conduct | g4lt-lappy
[07:11] <mib_0da4stqv> @karbo, the scheduled date is 23rd, right?
[07:11] <g4lt-lappy> Flannel, i literally just answered it
[07:11] <tenzind> on*
[07:12] <Flannel> tenzind: Erm, what?  You're right now using the release candidate or beta of 9.04, and you're wondering about how you move to stable 9.04?
[07:12] <Flannel> g4lt-lappy: Indeed.  That doesn't mean you can be rude.
[07:12] <mib_0da4stqv> all are sleeping
[07:12] <g4lt-lappy> Flannel, since I was completely ignored, it really can't be rude, now can it?
[07:12] <tenzind> Flannel, on 8.10
[07:12] <g4lt-lappy> its only rude if they listen in the first palce
[07:12] <BladeNBrocade> is there a way to make compiz work on 2 monitors?
[07:13] <BladeNBrocade> in xinerama mode
[07:13] <Flannel> g4lt-lappy: Again, please don't be rude to anyone.  Whether you think they're listening to you or not.
[07:13] <Lord_Devi> g4lt-lappy: i'm a witness who thinks you were rude.. does that count?
[07:13] <mib_0da4stqv> @g4lt ....lol
[07:13] <dlozarie> uhm looks like one can request a 9.04 live cd on the website now
[07:13] <g4lt-lappy> BladeNBrocade, nothing's easy on dual monitors
[07:13] <TheBeast> 9.04 will be released today?
[07:13] <BladeNBrocade> g4lt-lappy: didn't ask for easy just is there a way..
[07:13] <mib_0da4stqv> @Lord/Flannel,,,ppl like you guys should never come to this forum,,,,,
[07:14] <Lord_Devi> mib_0da4stqv: lol, didn't say I wasn't rude myself... i just recognize it. =)
[07:14] <Lord_Devi> I'm from EFnet, I'm pretty hard to offend.
[07:14] <Flannel> tenzind: Once 9.04 is released, you can upgrade from 8.10 to it, using update manager.  You'll get a prompt to upgrade if you're using the GUI.
[07:14] <g4lt-lappy> Lord_Devi, given you prolly didn't listen the first time either, no
[07:14] <Guest4741> hey what web filtering software is reccommended?
[07:14] <BladeNBrocade> g4lt-lappy: actually compiz works without xinerama enabled.. however in that mode.. it completely doesn't load
[07:14] <dlozarie> well I believe it *was* scheduled for release today. Maybe later on in the day?
[07:14] <Flannel> Guest4741: Try dansguardian
[07:14] <mib_0da4stqv> guys wasting ur and others time
[07:14] <tenzind> Flannel, ok .. thanks
[07:14] <dlozarie> Flannel: if my internet connection conks out at any time during the update process, what happens?
[07:14] <KingKimi> \join #vboz
[07:14] <Flannel> !party | dlozarie, TheBeast
[07:15] <KingKimi> \join #vbox
[07:15] <Flannel> !upgrade | tenzind
[07:15] <Lord_Devi> dlozarie: It will resume the download when you start it up again later.
[07:15] <mib_0da4stqv> dont do that@Lord
[07:15] <Flannel> dlozarie: It downloads all the packages, and then installs them.  So, if its at the download stage nothing, you just restart.  If its installing... well, then it's not downloading anymore.
[07:15] <mib_0da4stqv> @dlozaire,,,,yep i think so
[07:15] <Lord_Devi> mib_0da4stqv: Do what?
[07:15] <BladeNBrocade> id rather xinerama because it defeats the purpose of my two monitors if i can't use one as primary and the other as secondary.. just having two seperate copies of X running isn't working..so i left wobbly windows for functionality..
[07:15] <mib_0da4stqv> ok guys keep kicking each other,,,m moving
[07:15] <dlozarie> Lord_Devi: oh, cool. whew. thanks guys.
[07:15] <mib_0da4stqv> bye
[07:16] <dlozarie> Flannel: oh, cool. whew. thanks guys.
[07:16] <BladeNBrocade> now.. id like my wobbly windows back
[07:16] <luddite> oh i logged on to find out why 9.04 wasnt released today and im told not to ask by the welcome text :-)
[07:16] <dlozarie> will pre-order a few CDs though, to give out to my friends.
[07:16] <Flannel> luddite: #ubuntu-release-party
[07:16] <luddite> flannel - thanks :-)
[07:17] <Lord_Devi> luddite: #ubuntu+1 might be less strict about it
[07:17] <konsolenrocker_> can anyone suggest me a pricy unix workstation?
[07:17] <jonrafkind> is anyone using the xorg-ati driver? I get 300fps with it in glxgears, which seems rather low
[07:17] <Lord_Devi> konsolenrocker: Whisper stations by Microway
[07:17] <konsolenrocker_> i try
[07:17] <Flannel> konsolenrocker_: Try #ubuntu-offtopic or #hardware, this isn't a proper channel for that.  Thanks.
[07:17] <konsolenrocker_> ok
[07:18] <BladeNBrocade> aix?
[07:19] <reefer> If anyone can help me with my wireless issue please pm me
[07:19] <Geoffrey2> there's a command I can type in that will show a list of folders along with the total amount of space each is taking up...but I can't remember the name of the command...
[07:19] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: du
[07:19] <BladeNBrocade> du
[07:19] <jonaskoelker> Geoffrey2: du
[07:19] <Geoffrey2> ah, thanks :)
[07:19] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[07:19] <linuxguymarshall> I am trying to get my battery working on my Lenovo S10. Ubuntu 9.04. Same issue as described here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1035411.html            I have asked many places, waited for long times and no one seems willing to help. Anyone have any solutions they want me to try?
[07:19] <BladeNBrocade> actually... thats not it
[07:20] <Gnea> Geoffrey2: du -h
[07:20] <BladeNBrocade> du -skh * should be what ur looking for
[07:20] <rascallinux> release party room please
[07:20] <Gnea> BladeNBrocade: not -s
[07:20] <BladeNBrocade> why not s?
[07:20] <Gnea> rascallinux: #ubuntu-release-party
[07:20] <Lord_Devi> Geoffrey2:  du -cks * |sort -rn |head -11
[07:20] <Gnea> BladeNBrocade: he wants the size of all of the folders, not just the whole size of everything in the CWD
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> rainofkayos@rain:~$ du -skh *
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> 4.0K	AdobeReader.desktop
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> 4.0K	Azureus Downloads
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> 14M	Desktop
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> 7.1G	Documents
[07:21] <FloodBot2> BladeNBrocade: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:21] <WindowSmasher> Hi all
[07:21] <Lord_Devi> Geoffrey2: That'll sort the list in order of greatest to least space offenders..
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> srry
[07:21] <WindowSmasher> What are the pros and cons of 64 bit ubuntu 8.10?
[07:21] <WindowSmasher> Are there still installation issues with flash etc?
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> oh i see what u mean
[07:21] <Gnea> WindowSmasher: pro: it's fast. con: what?
[07:22] <Lord_Devi> WindowSmasher: No, haven't been any flash issues for a long time with 64 bit ubuntu.
[07:22] <Gnea> WindowSmasher: nope, it's been fixed
[07:22] <WindowSmasher> Any issues running wine?
[07:22] <Lord_Devi> WindowSmasher: No cons I can think of to be honest.
[07:22] <Gnea> it runs
[07:22] <wtv> when does jaunty release?
[07:22] <paul68> how to become an registered ubuntu user
[07:22] <Gnea> !jaunty | wtv
[07:22] <celthunder> WindowSmasher, thers con's to 64 bit? ive used wine and it worked fine
[07:22] <paul68> !jaunty
[07:22] <Lord_Devi> WindowSmasher: Nope. I play CoV/WoW/Eve... quite a few games with wine these days
[07:22] <Lord_Devi> w/ 64bit
[07:22] <WindowSmasher> Thanks all!
[07:22] <WindowSmasher> I'll bbl
[07:22] <Lord_Devi> yw
[07:23] <WindowSmasher> Tired of Vista. Came preloaded on this new desktop. I'm very unhappy with it
[07:23] <wtv> celthunder: i know but its 23rd april today and its not released
[07:23] <linuxguymarshall> Anyone at all?
[07:23] <Gnea> WindowSmasher: basically, the cons have been dramatically reduced in the past couple of years :)
[07:23]  * BladeNBrocade shivers @ sound of vista
[07:23] <WindowSmasher> Sold.
[07:23] <Lord_Devi> WindowSmasher: I love how they just force that on ya. Wish lots of extra mcafee stuff too..
[07:23] <Lord_Devi> yay
[07:23] <Lord_Devi> :%s/Wish/With
[07:23] <linuxguymarshall> I am trying to get my battery working on my Lenovo S10. Ubuntu 9.04. Same issue as described here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1035411.html            I have asked many places, waited for long times and no one seems willing to help. Anyone have any solutions they want me to try?
[07:23] <BladeNBrocade> heh mcaffe is poopy
[07:24] <Gnea> WindowSmasher: give it a couple days and there will be plenty of seeds for the new iso's via bittorrent :)
[07:24] <Gnea> linuxguymarshall: only place that can help you with it right now would be in #ubuntu+1
[07:24] <paul68> doesn anyone know how to become an registered ubuntu user
[07:25] <Gnea> paul68: registered, in what way?
[07:25] <linuxguymarshall> Gnea:Thank you so much
[07:25] <celthunder> wtv ? i didnt say anything?
[07:25] <paul68> Gnea: like you see in the forums that someone became a registered ubuntu user with a number besides it
[07:26] <wtv> celthunder: sorry i meant Gnea
[07:26] <Lord_Devi> paul68: Cononical has a few different membership levels available. They are described on the webpage.. I'm afraid I don't know too much about them though.
[07:26] <Lord_Devi> One of them includes an SLA though.. that's pretty awesome.
[07:26] <BladeNBrocade> Lord_Devi: thats pretty cool
[07:26] <paul68> Lord_Devi: ok thanks
[07:26]  * Lord_Devi smiles at paul
[07:26] <neil_d> Lord_Devi: SLA?
[07:26] <Gnea> paul68: aah, I just registered on the forums page and I think it just increases the more you post/reply
[07:27] <BladeNBrocade> neil_d: service level agreement
[07:27] <neil_d> BladeNBrocade: ok
[07:27] <Lord_Devi> neil_d: Service Level Agreement. Essentialy gaurenteed service in a gauranteed time frame
[07:27] <BladeNBrocade> more or less
[07:27] <Lord_Devi> Companies with far too much money love em. hehe
[07:27] <paul68> Gnea: thats just the number of posts you are doing, I don't have an example at hand was just wondering how to become "an official ubuntu user"
[07:28] <sejt1> ok i dont know ?then save/exit? Gnea
[07:28] <Lord_Devi> Who wouldn't wonder! =)
[07:28] <BladeNBrocade> heh tell me about it... we have 15 minutes SLA response 4 hr to resolve/escalate
[07:28]  * Lord_Devi 's eyes pop out of his head
[07:29]  * BladeNBrocade 's pops out his everyday =(
[07:29] <Lord_Devi> I could never offer an SLA like that myself..
[07:29] <Lord_Devi> You want it when?!?
[07:29] <BladeNBrocade> lol haha .. well we bend the rules alot as well
[07:29] <Lord_Devi> hah
[07:29] <Lord_Devi> who's we?
[07:30] <thurston> Good day. Does anyone have an idea when on 23/04/2009 (today) will Ubuntu 9.04 be available. I am not referring to the release candidate.
[07:30] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, thats quite a demand..15 minutes?  and you only have 500 ppl you said?
[07:30] <BladeNBrocade> i have clients like mastercard, the gap,, its expected
[07:30] <Flannel> thurston: No.  No one does.  #ubuntu-release-party might be a good place to hang out though.
[07:30] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: we have a service level of 95% to be solved directly on first call and we are actually at 99%
[07:30] <Lord_Devi> thurston: good day. I think in an hour and a half from now it's supposed to be on the servers...
[07:30] <BladeNBrocade> yes 15 minutes to respond .. meaning when our monitrong sees an alert there is a countdown
[07:30] <Lord_Devi> oh yeah.. not supposed to answer that question.
[07:30]  * Lord_Devi smacks his forehead
[07:30] <Flannel> Lord_Devi: especially with bad information.
[07:31]  * Lord_Devi nods at Flannel, That too..
[07:31] <Lord_Devi> I'm just workin off a time I heard in here earlier. =)
[07:31] <BladeNBrocade> paul68: awesome... our competitors are people like IBM,,, we just partnered with Cisco because they dont support applications.. the work flow just increased by alsmost 250% .. yes @ the central office i can only say we have 80 people at most..
[07:32] <thurston> Lord_Devi: Thank you for your response. I will try to be patient. I am now hooked on Ubuntu.
[07:32] <BladeNBrocade> we have onsite teams.. we have a india office,, and california and netherlands.. but still not big at all those offices..
[07:32] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: ouch thats a lot of work lol
[07:32] <BladeNBrocade> yes its .. ironically... lol making more people QUIT... so its actually getting worst..
[07:33] <cemc> jaunty with gnome. I have no visual effects enabled, still when I minimize a window, there's a basic minimize effect. How can I disable that?
[07:33] <Gnea> paul68: I'm really not sure, sorry... but thanks for reminding me, I need to update that howto I started writing last year :)
[07:34] <Flannel> cemc: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[07:34] <cemc> Flannel: got it. sorry.
[07:34] <Canaen> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu Tweak and/or upgrading intrepid's native OpenOffice 2.4 to 3.0.1?
[07:35] <BladeNBrocade> not sure about tweak but the installation files should be available on the Oo0 site if not the repo no?
[07:36] <BladeNBrocade> Canaen: there is as well an option to update in O0O... i think that would acquire the 3.0 binary atleast
[07:36] <Geoffrey2> oh, is there a command to let you know how much swap is actually being used, if any?
[07:36] <BladeNBrocade> swap -l
[07:36] <BladeNBrocade> swapon -l
[07:36] <Gnea> !ooo
[07:36] <Lord_Devi> Geoffrey2: 'free'
[07:37] <Canaen> BladeNBrocade: should I uninstall 2.4 first, or should I be able to just upgrade?
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> -s actually
[07:37] <Geoffrey2> surprise, surprise....none
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> swapon -s
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> Canaen: not sure u can always just uninstall the 2.4
[07:37] <Canaen> mmk
[07:37] <w-heat> quick question: I have 3 machines to upgrade when 9.04 is released; what would be the best way of doing this? Will there be a CD image that supports upgrade or do I have to apt on each box?
[07:37] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, can i pm you ?
[07:38] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: why not
[07:38] <Flannel> w-heat: You can use the alternate CD to upgrade, yes.  But, also, if you have three boxes, have you looked into apt-proxy?
[07:38] <ssn> hi guys
[07:39] <jbu> Is there a way to upgrade to 9.04 without deleting the files on the partition?
[07:39] <ssn> could it be that jaunty is late?
[07:39] <Flannel> jbu: Of course.   Regular upgrade proceures.
[07:39] <Orlsend> Maybe ssn.
[07:39] <Flannel> !upgrade | jbu
[07:39] <w-heat> Flannel: thanls for the link
[07:39] <kenyon> w-heat: I'd just use aptitude or whatever the upgrade guide says if they have decent internet connections to their sources.list mirrors.
[07:39] <jbu> thanks
[07:39] <ssn> Somehow, the release candidate does not detect my raid
[07:39] <Flannel> ssn: Please join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown/anticipation/etc
[07:40] <ssn> ok
[07:40] <w-heat> kenyon: yeah, I just anticipated that the load was going to be high
[07:40] <kenyon> w-heat: Ah, true.
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[07:41] <neil_d> it seems that the flash player (e.g. youtube) has no sound :(  can anyone help?
[07:41] <CaneToad> neil_d:  is any sound working for you at all?
[07:41] <joshux> when
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> neil_d: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964165
[07:42] <joshux> !9.04
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> neil_d: http://tech.mikelopez.info/2008/12/13/no-sound-in-flash-in-ubuntu-intrepid/
[07:42] <Aperculum> big day, today \o/
[07:42] <Orlsend> whats the channel for the realease party?
[07:43] <Flannel> Orlsend: #ubuntu-release-party
[07:43] <Orlsend> thanks
[07:43] <neil_d> CaneToad: yes!  vlc plays a DVD ok
[07:43] <Aperculum> Flannel: I thought you were joking before I joined there :)
[07:45] <jbu> Flannel, but if I wanted to change to ext4 (I have ext3 now) I couldn't just upgrade?  I'd have to do a clean install?
[07:46] <Flannel> jbu: I believe you can.
[07:46] <CaneToad> neil_d, I have Ubuntu 8.10 and by default it comes set up with pulse audio, but pulse audio at least with the default settings is really badly broken.  My sound has been behaving very nicely since I followed the instructions at http://blog.jayway.com/2008/11/10/getting-sound-to-work-on-ubuntu-810ut/
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[07:47] <neil_d> CaneToad: ok having a look now.
[07:47] <levon_> i need help getting my micro innovations web cam to work. could someone lend a hand thank you
[07:48] <Code_Bleu> when is 9.04 actually going to be up for download?
[07:48] <chronicpirate> anybody know of any sort of announce chan for the ubuntu torrents
[07:48] <Flannel> Code_Bleu: Sometime within the next 27 hours.  #ubuntu-release party, Also chronicpirate.
[07:48] <chronicpirate> so I can set my highlights for irc
[07:48] <Flannel> chronicpirate: subscribe to the ubuntu-announce mailing list.
[07:49] <Code_Bleu> will 'sudo update-manager -d' work on the beta and RC versions once the final release is out?
[07:49] <gartral2> how do i rotate my monitor's output, the monitor has a swivel, but i cant rotate
[07:49] <Flannel> Code_Bleu: you don't need the -d once you're on the RC/beta
[07:49] <Code_Bleu> Flannel: 27 hours? I thought it was released today 23rd?
[07:50] <chronicpirate> delays make me sad
[07:50] <Flannel> Code_Bleu: Come to #ubuntu-release-party
[07:50] <gartral2> Code_Bleu: for half the world, that IS the 23rd
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> chronicpirate: due to time differences it'll get released all different times
[07:51] <chronicpirate> :o
[07:51] <chronicpirate> so then for my time zone will it be out at midnight?
[07:51] <chronicpirate> in like 10 mintues?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> chronicpirate: easter island gets the biggest delays. I'm sure another 24 hours or so won't destroy your system
[07:51] <chronicpirate> probably not
[07:51] <chronicpirate> ActionParsnip: are you sure?
[07:51] <chronicpirate> it might
[07:52] <Flannel> chronicpirate: #ubuntu-release-party, not here.  thanks.
[07:52] <jbu> well it'll get released at all different times if you consider that in different time zone's it's always a different time
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> chronicpirate: i severly doubt it, chillout dude. More important things in life to worry about than a software upgrade
[07:52] <chronicpirate> it doesn't seems to be out at all though
[07:52] <chronicpirate> if it were it would be on the torrents
[07:52] <chronicpirate> and only beta and rc are now :c
[07:52] <Flannel> chronicpirate: #ubuntu-release-party is the place for this discussion, not here.  Please take it there.
[07:52] <blizzard_pro> nick
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> !nick
[07:53] <maximo> question: how do I view the history of commands I have use on my system lately?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> maximo: history
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> maximo: if you wish to rerun one of the commands, read the left hand column
[07:53] <maximo> ActionParsnip: how about the less?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maximo: then type !<number>
[07:54] <Code_Bleu> does anyone know if it is possible to install ubuntu on the "instant on" arm based processor, part of the new Dell latitude e4300 laptop?
[07:54] <blizzard_pro> #chan
[07:54] <Aggrav8d> hi, people!  i want to modify the /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start to add some parameters.  where do i find the bash script that is being run?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maximo: you can pipe it into less
[07:54] <blizzard_pro> #CHANNEL
[07:54] <maximo> ActionParsnip: thanks alot
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maximo: you can also grep it
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maximo: for example if you want to rerun command 400 then you would type: !400
[07:54] <maximo> Action grep / less / history
[07:54] <maximo> okay thanks
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maximo: or you can do stuff like
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> maximo: history | grep apt
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> maximo: to see all the commands containing the word 'apt'
[07:55] <Geoffrey2> do I need to use a live CD or such if I want to resize /home?
[07:55] <maximo> ActionParsnip: neat
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> maximo: the default length is the lst 1000 commands you typed and it is stored in ~/.bash_history
[07:55] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: Yes, you can't resize a mounted partition.
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> maximo: makes rerunning commands easier
[07:56] <maximo> ActionParsnip: that is my problem when I went into linux (commands)
[07:56] <maximo> ActionParsnip: correct...shorter
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> maximo: there is a way to manipulate the list from CLI but ive never bothered (like inseting history lines and moving them around)
[07:57] <Code_Bleu> does ubuntu have a twitter account? that would be cool if they did and when the actual files are posted they could just tweet and then people who tweet, would know
[07:58] <Geoffrey2> and /home can't be unmounted unless I'm running from the live CD....got it
[07:58] <Flannel> Code_Bleu: We have an announce mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce  But, this belongs in -release-party
[07:58]  * BladeNBrocade collapses
[07:58] <maximo> ActionParsnip: I know by way of reading you  all this and practising....
[07:58] <Flannel> !away > RoozbehOnline
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: if /home is on its own partition you can unmount it afaik, you will need to unmount any other partitions too if you are resizing into them, i recommend using the live cd for simplicity
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> maximo: best way
[07:59] <maximo> ActionParsnip: go ahead
[08:00] <gartral2> need to figure out monitor rotation...
[08:00] <karbo> is the version available through the update-manager the final version, or the rc?
[08:00] <xukun> I think this has bees asked one or twice but what time is the release of 9.04?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> maximo: huh?
[08:00] <BladeNBrocade> does sudo cache the passwords of the user?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> !isitout
[08:00] <xukun> ActionParsnip, thanks
[08:00] <ivoks> has it been released yet? :)
[08:00] <maximo> ActionParsnip: you know of school in toronto to learn linux (networking) ?
[08:00] <maximo> thanks
[08:01] <Flannel> BladeNBrocade: for 10 minutes by default.  You can disable it if you'd like.
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> maximo: no idea an, sorry
[08:01] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: yes yes i want to disable.. =)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> *man
[08:01] <maximo> ActionParsnip: on line if any?
[08:01] <Furu> Hi! does anyone know when today the 9.04 release is?:)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> maximo: i'm sure they exist but you may have to dig around
[08:02] <Flannel> BladeNBrocade: May I ask why?
[08:02] <paul68> !isitout
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> paul68: i'd put that on clipboard for a day or so ;)
[08:02] <maximo> ActionParsnip: I see linuxquestions.org  <----seems to be good one
[08:02] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: where exactly does sudo cache this in memory? flat file? db file? im a little anal about that..
[08:03] <paul68> ActionParsnip: lol just a large popup when loging on to this channel would be more helpfull I guess
[08:03] <Flannel> BladeNBrocade: It doesn't cache the password.  It just caches the fact that you have valid permissions.
[08:03] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: i see
[08:03] <paul68> ActionParsnip: do you know how to become a registered ubuntu user?
[08:04] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: very interesting
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> !register
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> paul68: other than that, no idea
[08:04] <paul68> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[08:04] <KingKimi> !netboot > Kimi
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> paul68: i can't see it achieving much. I registered myself as a Linux user agaes ago. i think it was on distrowatch
[08:05] <ikonia> KingKimi: your account is kingkimi - not kimi
[08:05] <KingKimi> !netboot > KingKimi
[08:05] <KingKimi> ikonia, thanks.. it was my habit.... but now i registered nick as kingkimi as kimi is already taken
[08:06] <paul68> ActionParsnip: ok no worries
[08:07] <Aggrav8d> please:  i want to modify the /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start to add some parameters.  where do i find the bash script that is being run?
[08:08] <Aggrav8d> i mean, where do i find the line with the parameters?
[08:08] <rumpel> @ Aggrav8d it is a script itself
[08:08] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: Defaultstimestamp_timeout = 0
[08:08] <BladeNBrocade> ?
[08:08] <Flannel> BladeNBrocade: timestamp_timeout = 0
[08:08] <Flannel> BladeNBrocade: make sure you use visudo
[08:09] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: ofcourse dude.. lol
[08:09] <Aggrav8d> rumpel - i know .../init.d/pure-ftpd is a script, but i read it and couldn't find any mention of the parameters I wanted to change.  do you know where i should look to find them?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> !bum | Aggrav8d
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Aggrav8d: that may give some clues
[08:10] <gartral2> !info Nezuiz
[08:10] <gartral2> whats the name of that game >.<
[08:10] <Gabz^laptop> Nexuiz ?
[08:10] <nspb> hayy
[08:10] <axsd9d> !nexuiz
[08:10] <gartral2> !info Nexuiz
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> gartral2: check out penumbra as well. Awesome game
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> gartral2: pretty scary stuff
[08:12] <gartral2> eh, not my style, whatss nexuiz like?
[08:12] <BladeNBrocade> starwars --> "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl"
[08:14] <anglo> merci
[08:14] <blap> what do you guys believe the most used theme for emerald is?
[08:15] <sriramoman> what time will jaunty-ubuntu mostly be released
[08:15] <g4lt-lappy> Strider^, the same time that /topic states
[08:15] <g4lt-lappy> sriramoman, ^^^^^
[08:16] <sriramoman> g4lt-lappy, it doesnt state the time...
[08:16] <sriramoman> oh sorry
[08:17] <DaveWM> how would i go about installing just a base system of the ubuntu install,  so basically i'd have a basic shell and apt-get to work my way up to a custom install ?
[08:17] <DaveWM> i've done it with debian plenty of times,  but i'm thinking of making the switch
[08:18]  * sriramoman is eagerly waiting for jaunty's release
[08:18] <g4lt-lappy> DaveWM, try the server install, it's about as stripped as you can get
[08:18] <Flannel> DaveWM: Grab the alternate CD.  From the alternate CD you can do a "command line only" install, and then you can install whatever GUI, etc you want ontop of it.
[08:18] <DaveWM> kewl
[08:18] <kjkjl> my desktop effects are not functioning. so i want to know if a program like blender which might use alot of graphics will it work in my ubuntu.
[08:18] <DaveWM> friend of mine just linked me to this "Ubuntu 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex" Minimal CD 9.9MB"
[08:18] <chordogg> g4lt-lappy: server install has tweaks to the kernel that might not be suitable for desktop installations, no?
[08:19] <DaveWM> that may be about what i need i suppose
[08:19] <DaveWM> heh
[08:19] <Flannel> DaveWM: The primary mode of the alternate CD installs a standard desktop system, command line only is... under an f4 or f5 menu at boot.
[08:19] <Roman> jfjf
[08:19] <raseel> @DaveWM: Can you share that link
[08:19] <Flannel> DaveWM: minimal will work too.  It's just the alternate CD without the packages on the CD itself.
[08:19] <Flannel> !minimal | DaveWM, raseel
[08:19] <DaveWM> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:19] <Roman> does anyone know how to convert a .ogg file into a mp4 file
[08:19] <g4lt-lappy> chordogg, given most "servers" you see in production aare just recycled desktops, no
[08:19] <DaveWM> yeah,  which is pretty much what i wanted
[08:20] <raseel> ubottu: Oh.. It's like a netinstall CD ?
[08:20] <gartral2> roman, what are you throwing the music into that it needs to be mp4, an ipod?
[08:20] <DaveWM> cause atm,  when i install debian,  i use the netinst,  and skip the install tasks at the end,  which leaves me with base system,  networking,  apt...
[08:20] <chordogg> g4lt-lappy: i read that the ubuntu kernel for servers modifies the scheduler, and such
[08:20] <kjkjl> how do i know if blender would work in my system wothout risking a crash
[08:20] <g4lt-lappy> chordate, so does medibuntu, and that's for desktops...
[08:21] <jdownie> what's the eta of the 9.04 torrent being seeded?
[08:21] <Flannel> jdownie: Sometime before its the 24th everywhere.
[08:21] <kjkjl> how do i know if a program would work in ubuntu without risking a crash
[08:21] <chordogg> g4lt-lappy: interesting
[08:22] <Flannel> DaveWM: The minimal (and alternate) CD uses debian-installer, so you can get into expert mode and do it all that way if you'd like as well.
[08:22] <kjkjl> help
[08:22] <DaveWM> sweet
[08:23] <DaveWM> to be honest,  i'd been bad mouthing ubuntu along with others for a while... and really the only reason is that i find the standard install a bit bloated...  which isnt really a good reason,  cause most distributions fall under that category with a default installation
[08:23] <DaveWM> and its apparent that ubuntu repo's rule,  and you can find information specifically reguarding ubuntu much easier than any other distribution
[08:23] <DaveWM> heh
[08:23]  * g4lt-lappy typically recommends "install everything and the kitchen sink" unless you know what you're doing
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: i find the standard install bloated too, I have a script to wrench about half the installed apps
[08:24] <raseel> The update-manager shows "9.04" is available, is this the RC or the final release ?
[08:24] <DaveWM> yeah
[08:24] <chronicpirate> DaveWM: you can alsways remove packages you don't want to make it not bloated.
[08:24] <chronicpirate> of course you might as well just install clean debian if you wanna do that :\
[08:24] <DaveWM> i've been more of a windows geek for years,  and windows is the king of bloat,  so i think i should ease up on ubuntu
[08:24] <DaveWM> hehe
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: most of the stuff is standard, like configuring apache will be identical in all linuxes
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: and samba
[08:25] <DaveWM> yeah,  clean debian is ok,  but its nice to have ubuntu's support at hand
[08:25] <DaveWM> heh
[08:25] <chronicpirate> meh windows isnt THAT bloated if you install it yourself and don't buy it pre-installed with all the other crap pc companies wanna throw at you
[08:26] <DaveWM> i dunno,  i've found a ton of things that i can rip out of a basic windows install
[08:26] <DaveWM> and alot of things to disable as well
[08:26] <DaveWM> heh
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> chronicpirate: a standard vista install takes 7Gb
[08:26] <chronicpirate> DaveWM: true... but any type of issue you're having with debian the ubuntu team could help with
[08:26] <chronicpirate> ubuntu == debian with packages pre-installed
[08:26] <zipper> DaveWM, You could always install ubuntu using the alternative cd. That allows you to do a very minimal install and then pick each of the packages you want afterwards
[08:26] <chronicpirate> anyway you'd go about troubleshooting is essentially the same
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> chronicpirate: my ubuntu + office productivity +a whole slew of stuff vista doesnt have....2.6Gb
[08:26] <chronicpirate> expecially since 99% of the time they make you do terminal commands to fix things
[08:26] <SealedWithAKiss> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04. When trying to play music using Frostwire for example, whilst YouTube is open, the sound doesn't work. And when trying to play YouTube videos, if another application that produces audio output is running, YouTube doesn't work. It's almost as though you can only have one sound output application open at a time. Does anybody know why this might be? Or how I can go about resolving it?
[08:27] <DaveWM> right,  i understand that,  but i still have a place for debian when i need the most minimal setup,  but i'm just saying i'm gonna give ubuntu a go with some customizing
[08:27] <viro> hey guys is it dumb to think dvr comes with this bundle ? http://www.quicksnapper.com/viro/image/untitled
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: if you want minimal, try xpud
[08:27] <viro> random turtle!
[08:27] <zipper> I hear LFS is pretty minimal....
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: boots in 4 seconds here
[08:27] <SealedWithAKiss> In continuation, sometimes the sound screws up altogether, and doesn't work until I reboot.
[08:27] <gartral2> TinyCORE!
[08:28] <Flannel> !offtopic
[08:28] <DaveWM> dude,  that's actually pretty neat looking,  i'm always looking or distributions like that to play around with
[08:28] <ronald1> Hello to all. Short question: the countdown for 9.0.4 was 0 today. What does "comming soon" mean? Later Today, Tomorrow or later
[08:28] <DaveWM> that does look ideal for making an old junk box into something useful
[08:28] <DaveWM> heh
[08:28] <DaveWM> xpud that is
[08:28] <DaveWM> never heard of it before
[08:28] <zaggynl> SealedWithAKiss: sounds like the mixer part of your sound system isn't working
[08:28] <zipper> ronald1, i see you did a great job on reading the topic =P
[08:28] <zaggynl> !mixer
[08:29] <DaveWM> i'll check that out for sure
[08:29] <gartral2> theres also the ubuntu fork, crunchbang...
[08:29] <SealedWithAKiss> zaggynl, how would I go about resolving that?
[08:29] <silver_swords> where's 9.04 ?
[08:29] <DaveWM> that might be neat as an extra boot option on my eee pc for when all i wanna do is browse or play media
[08:29] <zipper> silver_swords, i see you did a great job on reading the topic =P
[08:29] <steveccc> silver_swords: i was just thinking the same thing - do we have to wait for the whole world to enter the 23rd before the files appear?
[08:29] <zaggynl> SealedWithAKiss: sound mixing can be done by software, audiopulse or even alsa has that afaik, I'd try searching the ubuntuforums with your soundcard info in the query
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: true, its a bit young yet but keep an eye on it