[12:23] <bipolar> I just noticed that kaffine does not like getting passed system:/ urls. it needs the full path to open media
[12:26] <Tackleberry> Someone who can give me a tip of a fun and free game for linux?
[12:26] <Hentai^XP> ET
[12:26] <Hentai^XP> AA
[12:27] <bipolar> Tackleberry: Eternal Lands is cool if you like mmorpg's
[12:28] <bipolar> Tackleberry: need a 3d card though
[12:30] <elvirolo> hi all
[12:30] <elvirolo> is anyone encountering probs with usb keys here ?
[12:32] <elvirolo> cause when i try to use my usb key, i get the followin message "cannot find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:35] <elvirolo> hello?
[12:39] <slow-motion> n8
[12:41] <sean> are entries in fstab looked up automatically or do i need to restart or run some sort of utility to update?
[12:42] <crimsun> they take effect immediately
[12:42] <sean> gracias
[12:45] <sean> hm, I seem to have messed up my /etc/sudoers file.
[12:45] <synmoo> Question: Whats the command to create a new xorg config? I was doing it yesterday, it walks you through each step then writes the xorg.conf
[12:45] <sean> xf86config ?
[12:46] <nalioth> !xcfg
[12:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:46] <synmoo> nalioth: that was it.  The command with "kernel etc etc" (long one), edit it and add init=/bin/bash to the end of the line
[12:51] <apokryphos> then boot the command set; it should take you to a root shell without pw
[12:52] <sean> alright, thanks
[12:52] <sean> brb, i hope
[12:52] <sean> if not, i'm screwed!
[12:52] <apokryphos> sean: if not, then it'll have to be a live cd ;-)
[12:53] <Hikaru79> Hello =) I'm using Kubuntu and I've got some NFS shares mounted through fstab. It all works great except that KDE insists on putting shortcuts to them on the Desktop. I really don't need them there, so how can I get rid of it? Should I just delete the icon? Would they return on next reboot?
[12:54] <apokryphos> Hikaru79: right-click on desktop -> Configure desktop > behaviour > device icons
[12:55] <apokryphos> modify to your satisfcation 8)
[12:56] <Hikaru79> apokryphos, I think I love you.  She's older?
[12:59] <apokryphos> indeed
[01:05] <sean> It worked - thanks, i can sudo again :)
[01:09] <rubem> hi there
[01:09] <rubem> how can I add a entry in the kstartbar that show the recent documents opened?
[01:11] <Snake|Off_Eating> kkathman: youhere?
[01:12] <apokryphos> rubem: right-click on panel -> configure panel > menus
[01:14] <_max> moin
[01:15] <_max> anybody here?
[01:16] <atene> hi all
[01:16] <_max> wow at least one ;)
[01:16] <atene> ;D
[01:16] <Snake__> lol
[01:16] <atene> I'm going out
[01:16] <Snake__> Im here
[01:16] <Snake__> but im not much help...
[01:16] <atene> bye
[01:16] <_max> doesnt matter ;)
[01:17] <_max> where are you from snake?
[01:17] <Snake__> Ohio
[01:17] <Snake__> You?
[01:17] <_max> germany :D
[01:17] <Snake__> Ooo sweet
[01:17] <Snake__> Ever been on the autobahn? (Just out of curiousity)
[01:18] <_max> ofcourse :) at some places you have no speed limit
[01:18] <Snake__> Yea thats why I was asking
[01:18] <Snake__> Thats awesome.....I herd theres a lot of potholes and crap tho
[01:18] <_max> sounds like that we are famous for our autobahnen?
[01:19] <Snake__> Nope, mainly for the whole WW2 thing.....but the autobahnen is pretty close :)
[01:20] <_max> sorry, potholes? you mean the drug thing?
[01:20] <Snake__> No, I mean my friend said that theres a lot of holes in the autobahnen and stuff
[01:21] <_max> oh i see, well it depends very much on in wich party of germany you are driving. the ones in te west are having less potholes
[01:21] <Snake__> Ah thats good
[01:22] <_max> i guess the german word for potholes is schlagloch :D
[01:22] <Snake__> Wouldn't know :)
[01:22] <Snake__> I only know basic german
[01:22] <Snake__> mutter, ich, small words like that
[01:23] <_max> but please forget the ww2 thing, its boring to her americans say that if you ask them something about germany
[01:23] <Snake__> lol
[01:24] <_max> well words like mutter and ich are a quiet well begining :)
[01:24] <Snake__> Yep
[01:24] <Snake__> lol
[01:24] <standa> haha
[01:24] <_max> it cant be that the ww2 thing is the only thing you hear about us, there must be something positive
[01:25] <Snake__> Hmmmmm......rammstien is pretty positive :)
[01:25] <Snake__> (Not the event, the band)
[01:25] <Snake__> lol
[01:25] <MrMazda> anyone know how to set particular session types for particular users in kdm?
[01:25] <Snake__> Ramstien was pretty bad I herd
[01:25] <_max> yeahhh rammstein :) have you already heard about the new album called "rosenrot"?
[01:26] <Snake__> Yes awesome album
[01:26] <_max> rammstein bad? well if you dont like rockmusic its bad, but if you like it rammstein is great
[01:26] <Snake__> No no, what their name is based off of
[01:27] <Snake__> "Ramstein" I believe it was an airshow where americans pilots crashed and killed like 40 germans....
[01:27] <_max> yes thats right, rammstein is also an us airbase here in germany
[01:28] <Snake__> Haha I am right! lol
[01:28] <_max> how late is it in ohio right now?
[01:28] <Snake__> 19:28
[01:28] <_max> lol
[01:29] <_max> we have it 1:22 am
[01:29] <Snake__> So its about.... 7:28
[01:29] <Snake__> PM
[01:29] <_max> jupp :)
[01:30] <_max> its pretty cold outside, damn snow :D
[01:30] <Snake__> Agreed lol
[01:31] <_max> im glad beeing still alive ;) driving with weels that only should be used in summer is very exciting
[01:32] <Snake__> What do you drive/
[01:32] <_max> a small european car :D
[01:32] <Snake__> Lol I ment what kind
[01:32] <_max> brand is seat a kind is arosa
[01:33] <Snake__> Never herd of it :-D
[01:33] <_max> seat is a spanish brand
[01:33] <_max> it belongs to vw
[01:33] <Snake__> Ah I see
[01:33] <_max> you now ve right? ;)
[01:33] <_max> vw
[01:34] <Snake__> Yep
[01:34] <Snake__> I'm actually pretty into cars, i just never herd of seat lol
[01:34] <_max> what kind of car are you driving?
[01:34] <Snake__> Lincoln Towncar
[01:35] <_max> sounds small too ;)
[01:35] <Snake__> Hell no its huge
[01:35] <Snake__> its a boat
[01:35] <_max> ooops sorry
[01:35] <Snake__> :)
[01:36] <_max> how much hp?
[01:36] <Snake__> Not sure
[01:36] <Snake__> Its a luxury car, not sporty or anything
[01:37] <_max> shit i just realise that i still shoud improve my english :D
[01:37] <Snake__> :)
[01:38] <_max> sometimes some vocabluary is missing but im happy that you are able to understand me :D
[01:38] <nalioth> _max: you can improve your english by leaving out the profanity
[01:38] <Snake__> nalioth: Hehe
[01:39] <Snake__> _max: I have talked to much much much worse than you
[01:39] <Snake__> nalioth: wanna help meh?? lol
[01:39] <_max> thanks sanke :)
[01:39] <nalioth> Snake__: ask your question
[01:39] <Snake__> Uhh I did but okay ill do it here too
[01:41] <Snake__> I'm trying to download http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28165 and everytime I click "Download Source" It opens it as a text document, if I right click, "Save as" then it saves a file called Download.php. If I open download.php, it opens as a text document
[01:41] <Snake__> How would I get that file??
[01:41] <_max> profanity is a good thing for a warmup nalioth :P
[01:41] <nalioth> Snake__: kde-look is not known for their file integrity, i'll look, tho
[01:42] <kkathman> _max I'm pretty sure profanity isnt good for anything :)
[01:42] <nalioth> Snake__: it download fine for me
[01:42] <Snake__> How??
[01:43] <Snake__> Then why does it do it for me...
[01:43] <kkathman> kde-look is a "take your chances" site..be careful :)
[01:43] <Snake__> lol
[01:43] <Snake__> kkathman: where other should I get karamba things?
[01:43] <Snake__> nalioth: perhaps theres something I have to change in my settings??
[01:43] <kkathman> Snake__: Im not sure your browser is set up properly
[01:44] <nalioth> Snake__: how bout right clicking on the link and d/l it with wget?
[01:44] <Snake__> wget?
[01:44] <nalioth> Snake__: in a konsole
[01:44] <Snake__> Dont have wget :-D
[01:44] <nalioth> Snake__: sure you do, it's default
[01:45] <Snake__> I dont see anything that says dl w/ wget
[01:45] <nalioth> Snake__: copy the URL
[01:45] <Snake__> OHHH okay
[01:45] <nalioth> Snake__: open konsole and type "wget <PASTE>"
[01:45] <Snake__> that works
[01:45] <Snake__> Yes
[01:45] <Snake__> now new quesiton...how do I unzip this stupid thing
[01:46] <Snake__> skz...I had that problem earlier
[01:46] <kkathman> skz Ive never heard of
[01:47] <Snake__> Thats what all these things are I think.....
[01:47] <Snake__> What if I just...dragged and dropped the files:-D
[01:49] <_max> anyone using kubuntu under vmware here?
[01:50] <Snake__> HAH that works
[01:51] <Snake__> kkathman: you can just copy and paste the files out of the folder and it works
[01:51] <kkathman> ok
[01:52] <_max> oh man ich bekomme hier gleich noch nen fn :D
[01:52] <hernan> h
[01:54] <nalioth> _max: your characters don't show up on my client
[01:55] <_max> doesnt matter, is wasnt realy important ;)
[01:56] <_max> nalioth are you using vmware?
[01:57] <nalioth> _max: nein
[01:57] <_max> what was that??? ;)
[01:58] <_max> im very impressed :D
[01:58] <bam_> anyone know where the konqeror background image is at?
[01:58] <nalioth> _max: impressed with what? ich spreche ein bischen deutsch
[01:59] <_max> where have you learned i?
[01:59] <_max> it
[01:59] <nalioth> _max: i lived in Nrnberg for 6 years
[02:00] <_max> as a soldier?
[02:00] <_max> na dann kennst du ja unsere autobahnen :D
[02:01] <nalioth> _max: ich war ein sanitator
[02:02] <_max> better saving lives than killing
[02:03] <nalioth> _max: we can continue this in #kubuntu-offtopic if you like
[02:03] <_max> if you explain me how to get there .... its my first visit here :( ... sorry
[02:04] <nalioth> _max: type /j #kubuntu-offtopic <enter>
[02:14] <Tackleberry> is it possible to just format the hdd from the kubuntu dvd?
[02:14] <nalioth> Tackleberry: yes.
[02:15] <Tackleberry> how?
[02:15] <Tackleberry> what should i write in the "boot:"-prompt?
[02:16] <Tackleberry> i guess it's not format c:
[02:16] <Tackleberry> or?
[02:17] <nalioth> Tackleberry: you asked if it were possible, and yes it is, but not from the boot prompt
[02:18] <nalioth> i'm kinda not understanding your question
[02:21] <Tackleberry> nalioth, I ONLY wanna format my hdd without installing anything afterwards
[02:22] <nalioth> Tackleberry: then follow through the install procedure to the part where it formats and then kill the install
[02:22] <nalioth> Tackleberry: it'd be better to use a liveCD
[02:23] <Tackleberry> nalioth, ok thx
[02:31] <man2d> hi all
[02:36] <bam_> konqueror background image, how to change it?
[02:37] <apokryphos> bam_: make sure you're in file-management mode, then View > Configure Background
[02:38] <bam_> file-management mode?
[02:38] <bam_> how bone head simple
[02:38] <bam_> geeze
[02:39] <bam_> forgive me I am still recovering from M$ hiding all the neat stuff, gnome/kde doesnt
[02:39] <sorush20> when kmail or contact asks for passwords kwallet doesn't become active to provide that pass how do I fix this?
[02:40] <apokryphos> bam_: =)
[02:40] <apokryphos> sorush20: make sure you haven't set it to store the pass in the config files
[02:41] <sorush20> apokryphos: what config files?
[02:42] <apokryphos> sorush20: in Settings > Configure KMail etc etc where you have your accounts -- don't select it to store the pass there
[02:50] <bipolar> what version of xorg is supposed to be in dapper right now?
[02:51] <bipolar> 6.9?
[02:51] <crimsun> yes.
[02:51] <crimsun> well, 7.0RC
[02:51] <bipolar> ok
[02:51] <crimsun> Daniel won't begin pushing 7.0 final until after the new year (he's on vacation)
[02:53] <bipolar> ok. I think I have mixed xorg packages
[02:53] <bipolar> specificly the ati stuff
[02:53] <knewb> Hi... does anyone have a fix for the dazuko & capability module loading issue, that doesn't require you to manually loading dazuko.ko?
[02:53] <kkathman> yah ATI isnt Linux friendly
[02:54] <bipolar> kkathman: I keep hearing that but it works fine for me.
[02:54] <kkathman> ive always shied away from it myself
[02:55] <kkathman> I think some of their "basic" stuff isnt so bad...but anything that has what I might call "advanced" stuff, esp the Radeon stuff, is iffy I think
[02:56] <bipolar> Got a radeon 9000m in my laptop
[02:57] <Snake__> Whats a good calander widgit for superkaramba?
[02:59] <bipolar> whenever I try to run anything 3d I get "ERROR: version mismatch - 2D module [8.20.8]  incompatible with OGL client module [8.19.10] ."
[02:59] <bipolar> glxgears, for instance
[02:59] <fdelacruz> hello guys
[02:59] <bipolar> looks like the openGL driver is older then the rest of Xorg
[03:00] <fdelacruz> any p2p client avail from repo?
[03:05] <apokryphos> !p2p
[03:05] <ubotu> methinks p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[03:05] <kkathman> Snake__: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23013
[03:06] <Snake__> Thanks kkathman
[03:06] <kkathman> np
[03:13] <MrMazda> anyone know how to set particular session types for particular users in kdm?
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> hi, I'm new to KDE
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> need some help :(
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> I'm trying to install the KlearBox Window decoration on kde 3.5
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> when I do ./configure --prefix=/usr
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> It gives me
[03:24] <Evil_Whisper> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:25] <Evil_Whisper> anyone?
[03:26] <claydoh> you need the x -dev packages
[03:29] <nalioth> !xincludes
[03:29] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[03:29] <nalioth> !anyone
[03:29] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[03:29] <nalioth> !beer
[03:30] <Evil_Whisper> thank you claydoh & nalioth
[03:30] <claydoh> :P
[03:31] <claydoh> !crap
[03:31] <ubotu> claydoh: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:31] <Evil_Whisper> lol
[03:31] <claydoh> !soda
[03:31] <ubotu> claydoh: Wish i knew
[03:32] <GnarlyBob> it's as long as my arm
[03:32] <GnarlyBob> big as a two-by-four!
[03:32] <Evil_Whisper> wow thats a lot of packages :S
[03:32] <Evil_Whisper> grrr QT error
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> !QT
[03:33] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[03:33] <nalioth> Evil_Whisper: you 'll need lots of -dev pkgs to compile
[03:34] <nalioth> Evil_Whisper: the cost of becoming a developer
[03:34] <kkathman> lol
[03:34] <Evil_Whisper> why does it take so much just for a little window decoration?
[03:34] <nalioth> libqt3*-dev is what you need, Evil_Whisper
[03:34] <Evil_Whisper> !KDE
[03:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:34] <Evil_Whisper> !KDE-HEADERS
[03:34] <ubotu> Evil_Whisper: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:35] <Evil_Whisper> what about the kde headers nalioth?
[03:35] <claydoh> kdelibs-dev
[03:35] <Evil_Whisper> thx claydoh
[03:36] <claydoh> once you have various -dev packages innstalled, you can compile lots of stuff :)
[03:36] <nalioth> Evil_Whisper: kde-devel
[03:37] <Evil_Whisper> check install work for KDE window decorations?
[03:37] <nalioth> Evil_Whisper: use checkinstall for ANY compiling you do for a debian based system
[03:38] <Evil_Whisper> ok
[03:43] <bipolar> I guess I just need to wait until ati releases a new driver that works with xorg 6.9/7 properly.
[03:44] <mac__> is there a way to have one's own modifications to ~/.fonts.conf not be overwritten by "kcontrol"?  Whenever I touch the Appearance->Fonts panel of kcontrol, it currently keeps wiping out my additional modifications (e.g., turning autohinting on/off, certain font remappings, etc.)
[03:50] <MrMazda> nfs warning: mount version older than kernel
[03:58] <FHX> Hello all
[03:58] <FHX> Could someone please advise? Everytime I install a program in Konsole it gives me the following message after installation: http://pastebin.com/482417
[03:59] <nalioth> FHX: does this happen all the time or just started?
[03:59] <FHX> nalioth: All the time
[03:59] <FHX> And after installation it doesn't appear on my K menu, however if I install something by adept it does.
[04:00] <nalioth> FHX: paste your sources.list to a pastebin, please
[04:00] <FHX> Hm..I forgot how to get my sources.list. XD
[04:01] <MrMazda> anyone know how to set particular session types for particular users in kdm?
[04:01] <nalioth> FHX: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:01] <nalioth> MrMazda: each user is reponsible for their own sessions
[04:02] <guest_>  Is there a way to recover from a "sudo rm -r /*" without reinstalling?
[04:02] <MrMazda> how?
[04:02] <nalioth> guest_: probably not.
[04:02] <FHX> nalioth: in terminal i type that?
[04:02] <nalioth> FHX: no. that is where your list is
[04:02] <MrMazda> is there something that can be put in .dmrc to force it?
[04:03] <FHX> nalioth: Ah ok
[04:03] <nalioth> MrMazda: i have no idea. each user usually has their account set up like they like it
[04:03] <MrMazda> nalioth: the user is a 10 year old kid
[04:03] <nalioth> MrMazda: then limit his permissions, and let him at it
[04:04] <FHX> nalioth: http://pastebin.com/482422
[04:04] <MrMazda> nalioth: she gonna be a Gnome user, but I'm a KDE user, and I don't want her forced into KDE when I was last user
[04:04] <nalioth> MrMazda: if you limit her perms, she can choose whatever she wants
[04:04] <MrMazda> nalioth: she's not supposed to know anything about choice
[04:05] <nalioth> MrMazda: then limit her permissions, log in on her account and set it up like you want her to have it
[04:05] <MrMazda> how?
[04:05] <nalioth> MrMazda: when you log out, the preferences will remain
[04:05] <MrMazda> I can't find any way to force a session type
[04:10] <FHX> ?
[04:12] <nalioth> MrMazda: at the login screen, type your younguns name in the user and the password. and click on 'sessions'
[04:12] <nalioth> MrMazda: choose the session you want her to have
[04:13] <nalioth> FHX: i find it unusual you've never contacted security
[04:13] <FHX> contacted security?
[04:13] <MrMazda> did that long ago, but how does that turn off her option to choose some other session type?
[04:13] <FHX> meaning..?
[04:14] <NPC_Crys> How do I open konquerer with root level access to folders and files?
[04:14] <mister_roboto> !tell me about samba
[04:14] <nalioth> FHX: please dont be dense. you pasted an error saying your apt was having trouble with ubuntu security repos
[04:14] <nalioth> MrMazda: if her permissions are restricted, why does the session matter?
[04:15] <xwolf-> are there language packs for kubuntu?
[04:15] <FHX> Yeah.
[04:15] <FHX> Ok, brb.
[04:15] <MrMazda> nalioth: you lost me
[04:16] <NPC_Crys> anyone know it?
[04:16] <xwolf-> are there language packs for kubuntu?
[04:17] <NPC_Crys> xwolf what do you mean language packs? You mean can you get it in a different language?
[04:17] <xwolf-> yeah, exactly that
[04:17] <MrMazda> nalioth: chown root.root .dmrc; chmod 644 .dmrc ?
[04:17] <xwolf-> i'm not the only one who's gonna use it
[04:18] <NPC_Crys> Yeah it ought to be available in a bunch.
[04:18] <lewis> need some multimonitor help....with kabutu
[04:18] <xwolf-> you know where can i get it?
[04:18] <FHX> nalioth: I'm confused. When you say I'm supposed to contact security repos, how do I go about doing that??
[04:18] <lewis> where is the screen setup applet?
[04:19] <lewis> I need to the this setup working again.....http://www.umich.edu/~donofrio/snapshots
[04:19] <nalioth> FHX: YOU DONT
[04:20] <nalioth> FHX: your apt-get is giving you errors that IT ISNT
[04:20] <NPC_Crys> xwolf it should've installed a bunch of language packs with your initial install, but if it didn't I'd say adept is the way to go.
[04:20] <mrtanooki> :)
[04:21] <FHX> nalioth: Okay I'm still lost. What do you mean it's giving errors that it isn't?
[04:22] <FHX> ?? Anyone else here understand it?!
[04:22] <nalioth> FHX: you pasted the errors.
[04:22] <FHX> Yes
[04:22] <nalioth> i'd not worry about it, FHX
[04:22] <NPC_Crys> fhx your program is having trouble doing it.
[04:22] <nalioth> it's not your system anyway, it's the remote server
[04:22] <NPC_Crys> It's trying and it cant.
[04:22] <xwolf-> NPC_Crys i haven't installed it yet you know.. i just figured out it was actually in english and it should have a pt-br version cause of the family here... so can i choose which language i prefer, during installation?
[04:23] <NPC_Crys> Yep.
[04:23] <NPC_Crys> There's a good sized list.
[04:23] <FHX> Ahh okay. Thank you, that makes sense now.
[04:23] <NPC_Crys> is that brazilian portuguese?
[04:23] <FHX> One more thing, how do I create shortcuts?
[04:24] <FHX> When I install things by terminal through sudo apt-get they don't appear on my K menu
[04:24] <xwolf-> yes NPC_Crys
[04:24] <NPC_Crys> fhx alot of them only do when kde restarts so try logging out and back in first.
[04:24] <FHX> NPC_Crys: Okay, thanks. ^^
[04:24] <lewis> anyone here multi-screen xorg'ers?
[04:25] <NPC_Crys> Bye.
[04:25] <NPC_Crys> hey nalioth
[04:25] <nalioth> FHX_brb: are you installing graphical apps or terminal apps?
[04:25] <nalioth> NPC_Crys: yes?
[04:25] <xwolf-> NPC_Crys a new partition is necessary for the installation, right?
[04:25] <NPC_Crys> You know how to start up konquerer in root access mode?
[04:25] <NPC_Crys> Or else how to edit system files with it?
[04:26] <NPC_Crys> xwolf-: You will need two unless you allready have swap space on your hard drive from another linux system.
[04:26] <nalioth> xwolf-: the installer can create some space, if you want it to
[04:27] <nalioth> NPC_Crys: are you talking to me?
[04:27] <NPC_Crys> Yep.
[04:27] <NPC_Crys> also, can the installer actually open up space? Like re-size partitions?
[04:28] <xwolf-> well, i'm a complete newbie in what comes to linux and all, so i'm kinda asking things before installing it.. shouldn't i create a partition before i install it?
[04:28] <nalioth> NPC_Crys: it works best if you preface folks' names when you are addressing them
[04:28] <nalioth> NPC_Crys: whatever you are comfortable doing. the installer has safely resized several machines i've done for clients
[04:28] <NPC_Crys> xwolf-: I'd say yes. Also, if you are keeping your windows system, make sure it is not ntfs formatted.
[04:29] <nalioth> ntfs is not a problem during the install
[04:29] <xwolf-> the new partition? not ntfs formatting?
[04:29] <NPC_Crys> no, the windows partition.
[04:30] <NPC_Crys> has to be fat32 or else grub won't be able to boot it.
[04:30] <xwolf-> it IS ntfs, but in what does that interfere?
[04:30] <NPC_Crys> Or so I hear.
[04:30] <NPC_Crys> Although there is a hack I hear.
[04:30] <nalioth> not so
[04:30] <nalioth> ntfs is fine
[04:30] <Hentai^XP> ntfs works fine
[04:30] <NPC_Crys> Yeah?
[04:30] <NPC_Crys> Okay, so ignore me then.
[04:31] <xwolf-> haha, ok
[04:31] <NPC_Crys> Okay cya. I can't stick around anymore.
[04:34] <xwolf-> nalioth why couldnt i connect when running live session?
[04:35] <xwolf-> i put ip address and gateway, enabled eth0 but nothing happened
[04:35] <nalioth> xwolf-: there are things you're not telling us
[04:36] <xwolf-> such as?
[04:36] <xwolf-> i'm connected through a router modem.. it responded to ping
[04:37] <xwolf-> tried www.google.com but it didnt go
[04:37] <xwolf-> nalioth does that mean dns problem?
[04:37] <nalioth> sounds like it, xwolf-
[04:38] <xwolf-> i tried to add one, but it kept saying i had to add an alias first
[04:38] <xwolf-> but that didnt solve my problem
[04:38] <nalioth> i'm not up on dns, perhaps ask in #ubuntu
[04:39] <xwolf-> thanks anyway
[04:42] <guest_> still need multimonitor help
[04:49] <guest_> anyone here run with four screens?
[04:52] <guest_> anyone?
[04:54] <FHX> Hello all, I tried the suggestion earlier and I restarted my computer, but the Firestarter shortcut is still not available in my K menu. Also, I tried running gksudo /usr/bin/firestarter and it doesn't open. It asks for my password but after that it doesn't open. Please advise?
[04:54] <nalioth> FHX: alt-f2 > gksudo firestarter
[04:55] <FHX> nalioth: Hm..that worked. o.o
[04:55] <FHX> Could you tell me how I can create a shortcut for it in my menu?
[04:57] <FHX> Hm..
[04:59] <FHX> nalioth: The firewall just shut down by itself...i minimized it to system tray and now, after about 5 minutes, it has disappeared.
[04:59] <nalioth> FHX: kde comes with a menu editor, try right clicking on the k
[04:59] <nalioth> FHX: did you do anything to firestarter?
[04:59] <FHX> nalioth: Nothing. I ran through wizard, that's about it
[04:59] <nalioth> so you were just watching it?
[05:00] <FHX> I watched it to check that it detected my stuff like IRC, then I closed it so it minimized to the system tray where I could see its icon and still open/minimize it..then now it's gone from system tray, so I assume it's shut itself down
[05:01] <nalioth> FHX: in a konsole, type "ps aux|grep firestarter"
[05:01] <FHX> hxkoh     8893  0.0  0.2   3064   756 pts/1    S+   12:01   0:00 grep firestarter
[05:04] <nalioth> yup, it's gone alright.
[05:04] <FHX> And also, about the shortcut thing, I tried right-click menu-editor to add Firestarter but it's not listed there at all
[05:04] <nalioth> i don't run kde, but i do know that it has a menu editor. operation of said editor i leave up to you
[05:05] <FHX> nalioth: Hm...ok I'll try and see what I can find.
[05:05] <FHX> So firewall is still running?
[05:05] <FHX> Strange. It's not on my menu.
[05:05] <nalioth> FHX: it is not.
[05:05] <FHX> *system tray
[05:06] <FHX> o.o That means it shut down on its own.
[05:09] <FHX> nalioth: Firestarter shut down on its own..
[05:09] <nalioth> yes it did.
[05:09] <FHX> It's supposed to do that?
[05:12] <sampan> fhx, try in konsole: sudo iptables -L
[05:12] <nalioth> i dont use it, it's not necessary
[05:12] <sampan> does that output a long list of chains/rules?  if so, then firestarter did it's job and wrote an iptables (firewall rules)
[05:13] <sampan> the process doesn't have to stay running for it to work, only if you want to watch the firestarter log of hits (ips and ports)
[05:14] <FHX> Oh..the konsole output is a long list of Drops, Accepts, etc.
[05:14] <nalioth> a "firewall" is not necessary
[05:14] <FHX> Ah okay, so it's actually working as pernormal. Thanks ^^
[05:15] <nalioth> i find windows users have become 'conditioned' into thinking that it is, but it is not needed here
[05:15] <FHX> Yeah, I'm new to Linux.
[05:15] <FHX> However I still can't get it on my menu no matter what I try. XD
[05:17] <Shadyman> Hey all
[05:18] <sampan> fhx, if you open the kmenu editor, you should be able to add an entry for it (icon will likely be found under "other icons" and command is simply: kdesu firestarter) -- that's how i set mine up
[05:18] <FHX> sampan: Ok I'll try that out
[05:19] <jaheire> hi can someone tell me what fluxbox is
[05:19] <chris70> jaheire: It's a window manager
[05:19] <sampan> speaking of the kmenu though, i have a "Debian" entry with a bajillion submenus and i can't edit them AT ALL.  if i make changes and save, it just ignores them -- can't even change icons
[05:19] <FHX> Works well, excellent. ^^
[05:21] <jaheire> chris70: is that the same thing as kde ?
[05:21] <nalioth> jaheire: it is similar. think of window managers like they were cars. different models do different things
[05:21] <jaheire> ok right
[05:22] <jaheire> so gnome, kde and fluxbox are all windows managers ?
[05:22] <nalioth> jaheire: also known as Desktop Environments
[05:22] <jaheire> ok
[05:23] <jaheire> does fluxbox come with the kubuntu install ?
[05:23] <nalioth> no, but you can apt-get it
[05:23] <jaheire> k
[05:23] <jaheire> and then when i reboot i can just choose to start into fluxbox
[05:23] <nalioth> are you interested in alternative DEs or were pointed to flux in particular?
[05:24] <nalioth> no need to reboot
[05:24] <nalioth> in linux you only need to reboot when you upgrade a kernel
[05:24] <jaheire> oh i was just looking at it, read about it on a forum
[05:24] <nalioth> just log out and at the login screen, click "sessions" > fluxbox
[05:25] <jaheire> ok cool
[05:26] <jaheire> so do i need fluxconf also ?
[05:26] <micahf> hey is anyone using dialup on kubuntu?
[05:26] <jaheire> or just fluxbox
[05:26] <nalioth> jaheire: fluxbox is not for novitiates, i recommend you read the fluxbox homepage docs
[05:27] <jaheire> hehe ok :)
[05:27] <jaheire> so i will wait
[05:27] <nalioth> jaheire: they are well written and will get you goin with a minimal of confusion
[05:28] <jaheire> ok because im definitely a novice
[05:28] <jaheire> heh
[05:29] <nalioth> jaheire: the flux homepage has some very good docs to get you started
[05:31] <jaheire> yeh im reading it now :) thanks nalioth
[05:36] <Shadyman> Kubuntu comes with KDE 3.5, right?
[05:37] <nalioth> Shadyman: i believe it does not.
[05:38] <Shadyman> nalioth: So it's 3.4, then.
[05:38] <nalioth> Shadyman: if you want 3.5, stand by for news
[05:38] <nalioth> !kde3.5
[05:38] <ubotu> kde3.5 is, like, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[05:39] <Shadyman> Killer.
[05:39] <Shadyman> How much different is 3.5, as far as usability goes?
[05:40] <nalioth> i dont use anthing like that. i keep a buncha terminals up in a default gnome session
[05:45] <FHX> Hey all, I'm running from the live cd..how do I open parted? it's installed but I don't know how to open it.
[05:45] <nalioth_zZz> FHX: alt-f2 > gksudo gparted
[05:45] <FHX> AHh ok
[05:45] <FHX> Thanks
[05:50] <FHX> Roughly how long does it take to resize partitions?
[05:50] <FHX> XD
[05:50] <Shadyman> FHX: A while.
[05:50] <FHX> Okay, because the bar thingy hasn't showed any progress in gparted, so I thought it might have been an error.
[06:05] <Snake__> Whats KDEs Email thingy?
[06:05] <Snake__> For sneding emails and stuff
[06:05] <sampan> kmail ?
[06:05] <Shadyman> whatever it is, probably starts with a K.
[06:05] <Snake__> Indeed Shadyman
[06:06] <Snake__> hmmmm
[06:06] <sampan> shadyman  is korrect -- he gets a kookie
[06:06] <Snake__> This is no good...
[06:06] <Snake__> I want thunderbird
[06:06] <Snake__> wait...thunderbirds on linux aint it??
[06:06] <Shadyman> Yep
[06:06] <Shadyman> Go for it.
[06:06] <Shadyman> and Firefox.
[06:06] <sampan> sylpheed is a nice email client -- iirc it uses gtk (not qt), but it's still a very nice app
[06:06] <Snake__> Woo
[06:06] <Snake__> I got FF
[06:07] <Shadyman> Snake__: :D
[06:07] <Shadyman> Snake__: Uh oh, Thunderbird doesn't start with a K. *Kernel panic: Continuity error.
[06:07] <Snake__> OH
[06:07] <Snake__> My god.
[06:07] <Snake__> I shouldn't install this then...
[06:08] <Shadyman> Snake__: We'll just nickname it Kunderbird, then.
[06:08] <Snake__> LOL
[06:08] <Snake__> thats what I was just typing
[06:08] <Shadyman> Snake__: Wow.
[06:09] <Snake__> Blunderbird...
[06:09] <Snake__> er
[06:09] <Shadyman> Now, now.. We only make fun of Microsoft products.
[06:09] <Snake__> haha
[06:09] <Snake__> Microshit.......
[06:09] <Shadyman> Snake__: What version of KDE you do you have?
[06:10] <kub-01> so if i say microsoft owns, will i get made fun of (since that could arguably imply i myself have become a microsoft product)?
[06:10] <Snake__> 3.4
[06:10] <Shadyman> kub-01: Possibly.
[06:10] <kub-01> microsoft owns...
[06:10] <Snake__> kub-01: Yes you will.
[06:10] <Shadyman> Snake__: You can upgrade to 3.5 if you want..
[06:10] <Snake__> kub-01: Crash much?
[06:10] <Snake__> er
[06:10] <Shadyman> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[06:10] <Shadyman> Snake__: Not sure.
[06:10] <Snake__> Yea I know, I had it
[06:10] <ingrato> how do I install flash support for konqueror?
[06:10] <kub-01> eh, i guess i crash about as much as you do - around 6-8 hours a night
[06:10] <ingrato> can I do it from adept?
[06:10] <Snake__> but I just did a fresh install and I got a whole bunch of customizations I dont want to lose
[06:10] <Shadyman> Oh, hahah.
[06:11] <Snake__> I dont know if upgrading will ruin it
[06:11] <kub-01> sometimes i'll sleep in late :)
[06:11] <Shadyman> Snake__: It shouldn't, it'd be a strait upgrade, I think.
[06:11] <Snake__> Like I got custom toolbars and panels and custom images on them
[06:11] <Snake__> yada yada
[06:11] <Snake__>  custom buttons
[06:11] <Shadyman> Snake__: Yeah.
[06:12] <Shadyman> Snake__: I've done that about 3 times now LOL
[06:12] <Snake__> So it wont screw it up
[06:12] <Shadyman> Snake__: I've been flipflopping with flavors of linux.
[06:12] <Shadyman> Snake__: I'm not sure. Maybe someone could say for sure
[06:12] <Snake__> Anyone on 3.5 COME TO THIS ROOM
[06:12] <Snake__> lol
[06:14] <ingrato> how do I install flash support?
[06:14] <Shadyman> Snake__: Wouldn't they  have to be In this room already to read that?
[06:14] <Shadyman> !flash
[06:14] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:14] <Shadyman> !macromedia
[06:14] <ubotu> Shadyman: Wish i knew
[06:16] <ingrato> hmm
[06:16] <Snake__> kkathman: are you avalible?
[06:16] <ingrato> any idea?
[06:17] <Shadyman> ingrato: Have you tried getting it from Macromedia?
[06:17] <nalioth_zZz> Snake__: what do you need?
[06:17] <Shadyman> ingrato: Or what about apt-get?
[06:17] <nalioth_zZz> ingrato: flash is available, follow ubotu's link
[06:17] <ingrato> apt-get flash?
[06:17] <ingrato> install
[06:17] <Shadyman> !flash
[06:17] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:17] <Shadyman> try that link
[06:18] <restagner> i've just installed kubuntu and love it!!
[06:18] <Shadyman> restagner: Me too :)
[06:18] <nalioth_zZz> Snake__: what did you need?
[06:18] <ingrato> ok
[06:18] <restagner> one problem, though, i can't seem to print from firefox...anybody able to print from firefox?????
[06:18] <Snake__> nalioth_zZz: I want to know if I go KDE 3.4 ---> 3.5 will I lose all my custom buttons
[06:18] <Snake__> and panels and what not
[06:18] <Shadyman> restagner: Yep.
[06:18] <Shadyman> restagner: Have you set up your printer?
[06:18] <restagner> Shadyman: how?
[06:19] <restagner> Shadyman: yes. i'm using CUPS
[06:19] <Shadyman> restagner: You added your printer as a printer in the Printer section of the Settings panel?
[06:20] <ingrato> Shadyman, in order to apt-get it, I need what server,c ause it can't find it when I use apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[06:20] <nalioth_zZz> Snake__: all the settings in /home/snake/.kde should be unchanged
[06:20] <restagner> Shadyman: i went to the System Settings -> Printers and opened the GUI application that allows one to add a printer
[06:20] <Snake__> Alrighty so like...it will still have my 2 panels
[06:20] <Snake__> nalioth_zZz: and crap like that?
[06:20] <Shadyman> restagner: Yes.
[06:20] <nalioth_zZz> Snake__: it should appear as it does now.
[06:21] <Snake__> Okie dokie
[06:21] <Shadyman> Snake__: I guess there's your answer :D
[06:21] <Snake__> Im gonna go for it
[06:21] <Snake__> :)
[06:21] <nalioth_zZz> dont forget the key.
[06:21] <Snake__> thanks nalioth_zZz
[06:21] <nalioth_zZz> Snake__: to add to your keyring
[06:21] <Snake__> Yea I know, ive done it once
[06:21] <nalioth_zZz> good night
[06:21] <restagner> Shadyman: after the app. opened i clicked on the administration mode button and went about adding my printer
[06:21] <sampan> restagner  can you print from other applications?
[06:21] <Snake__> Night
[06:22] <restagner> sampman: yes i can print from kate
[06:23] <restagner> i love using firefox...i'd hate that having no print capabilities would hinder my use of this application
[06:23] <Shadyman> restagner: I understand :)
[06:23] <restagner> any ideas? anyone? :-)
[06:23] <sampan> i had that same problem a while back -- can't remember if it was at the end of hoary or first install of breezy though.
[06:24] <sampan> restagner  did you use the Automatix script to install a bunch of stuff? (i kinda think that's what caused it for me, but not 100% sure)
[06:25] <restagner> sampan: i'm not sure what Automatix is...i don't think i used it
[06:25] <sampan> good -- it broke my system :)
[06:26] <sampan> i empathize with you though -- i was -really- frustrated when i had that problem (eventually i reinstalled, due to other reasons ...and it went away)
[06:26] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[06:26] <ubotu> methinks automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:26] <thoreauputic> !good bot
[06:26] <ubotu> thanks thoreauputic :)
[06:26] <Shadyman> lol
[06:26] <restagner> i just used the printer configuration tool from within KDE and clicked Add-> Printer class
[06:27] <thoreauputic> sampan: general rule: if you don't understand a script, don't use it ;)
[06:28] <Snake__> !kde3.5
[06:28] <restagner> thoreauputic: good rule to live by :-)
[06:28] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[06:28] <thoreauputic> in other words, if you understand it you can see where $script is broken, so you'll shun it
[06:28] <sampan> thoreauputic  good rule ... but of course, i don't really "understand" 99.9% of linux anyway, so if i truly stuck to that route, i wouldn't be here at all ;/
[06:28] <invisius> should i update linux-image-386?
[06:29] <thoreauputic> sampan: heh - yes, well we have to trust the Ubuntu/Kubuntu developers :)
[06:29] <thoreauputic> sampan: and nobody understands all that stuff, so point taken :)
[06:30] <sampan> thoreauputic  indeed -- even if i knew what it all meant, there's no way i'm going through all the OS code to find stuff ;/
[06:30] <thoreauputic> sampan: you're pretty safe with standard Ubuntu repos
[06:30] <invisius> can someone help?
[06:31] <Shadyman> thoreauputic: Don't do what i just did with Fedora and just go adding random repos.
[06:31] <sampan> i knew i was taking a gamble on the automatix script, but i still did it for two reasons (a) the community cd install thing worked flawlessly for me on hoary and (b) i knew if it broke stuff a fresh install wasn't that big of a deal -- just 30 minutes of time
[06:31] <Shadyman> thoreauputic: It results in a lot of random crud.
[06:31] <thoreauputic> apart from the occasional bug....
[06:32] <thoreauputic> Shadyman: I only use main, universe and multiverse - except for a few apps like skype, and possibly codecs etc - I don't use extra repos unless I know what the heck they might do to the system, and I comment them out after getting what I need
[06:33] <thoreauputic> but for less experienced people I advise only the three Ubuntu repos, basically
[06:33] <invisius> please anyone can assist?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> invisius: have you even asked a question yet?
[06:34] <invisius> yes
[06:34] <invisius> "should i update linux-image-386?"
[06:34] <thoreauputic> invisius: probably
[06:34] <invisius> i noticed there are mant different versions in adept
[06:35] <thoreauputic> invisius: you mean a security update or what?
[06:35] <invisius> i am pretty new to this, so im not sure what to do
[06:35] <invisius> is that what it is?
[06:35] <invisius> the package says "linux kernel image on 386" upgradeable
[06:36] <thoreauputic> invisius: what kind of processor are you using? what does uname -m say ?
[06:36] <invisius> pentium M 2.2
[06:36] <invisius> i686
[06:37] <thoreauputic> invisius: OK well your current kernel is fine but you might like to upgrade to a i686 kernel
[06:37] <invisius> would i notice much improvement?
[06:37] <thoreauputic> invisius: in general if adept says you have updates you should make them
[06:37] <invisius> alright
[06:37] <thoreauputic> invisius: not a huge diff between i386 and i686, no
[06:38] <Shadyman> no, but specific packages can't hurt.
[06:38] <invisius> i heard it might mess with the applications too
[06:38] <invisius> would you advise it?
[06:38] <thoreauputic> might help with multimedia and other cpu intensive stuff
[06:38] <Shadyman> invisius: If applications are compiled as i386, they will run as i386, IIRC.
[06:39] <Shadyman> invisius: They won't use 686 extensions
[06:39] <invisius> ok
[06:39] <Shadyman> Correct me if i'm wrong, anyone
[06:39] <thoreauputic> invisius: changing to i686 can't hurt - and the other kernel will still be there as a fallback anyway
[06:39] <invisius> alright good, so which packages do i select to upgrade?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> invisius: usually you just select whatever is upgradable and let it happen
[06:40] <invisius> sorry i meant install
[06:40] <invisius> to move to the i686
[06:41] <thoreauputic> invisius: ah I see - linux-image-686  from memory
[06:41] <invisius> ok
[06:41] <invisius> i also see "linux-686" and "linux-image-2.6.12-10-686"
[06:41] <thoreauputic> use linux-686
[06:42] <thoreauputic> that pulls in restricted modules etc IIRC
[06:42] <invisius> ok
[06:43] <thoreauputic> just checked, and it does (  apt-cache depends linux-686)
[06:43] <thoreauputic> if you want to learn about apt/dpkg, install  apt-howto-en
[06:43] <FHX> Received URL file:///home/hxkoh/screenie.jpg
[06:43] <FHX> Could not change local directory to /home/hxkoh/screenie.jpg: Not a directory
[06:44] <thoreauputic> well, it isn't a directory, is it? What are you actually doing to get that error ?
[06:59] <Snake__> Okay does anyone but me have issues with KDE 3.5 and custom panel backgrounds?
[07:01] <Shadyman> Uh oh.
[07:01] <Snake__> What
[07:01] <Shadyman> Sux that it didnt work 100%
[07:01] <Shadyman> everything else ok tho?
[07:01] <Snake__> Oh its updated and everything
[07:01] <Snake__> But like....its weird
[07:01] <Shadyman> Hmm
[07:01] <Snake__> Hang on look at this screeny
[07:01] <Snake__> one momen
[07:01] <Snake__> t
[07:02] <Shadyman> k
[07:02] <FHX> thoreauputic: I was trying to upload an image through ftp to my website
[07:03] <thoreauputic> FHX: using what ? to upload a simple screenshot you could even use command line ftp
[07:03] <FHX> thoreauputic: Oh..sorry. I was using gftp, so I dragged the image file from my home directory to my online directory
[07:03] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell me about rpm
[07:04] <thoreauputic> FHX: you know you can do ftp with konqueror, right?
[07:04] <FHX> thoreauputic: O.O Noes. I didn't know that. Could you teach me?
[07:04] <Shadyman> ubotu: fine :P
[07:04] <ubotu> Shadyman: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:04] <Shadyman> ubotu: Yes.
[07:04] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, shadyman?
[07:04] <thoreauputic> FHX: just type ftp://blah.com  if I remember correctly
[07:05] <FHX> Hm..interesting. I'll try that
[07:06] <FHX> thoreauputic: Thankee.  :P
[07:10] <Snake__> Who me??
[07:10] <Shadyman> yeah.
[07:10] <Snake__> Thats my gf cursing up a storm
[07:10] <Snake__> lol
[07:10] <Snake__> Shes singing a korn song :-D
[07:10] <Shadyman> I was starting to wonder.
[07:10] <Shadyman> lolol
[07:10] <Snake__> see that "hh"
[07:10] <Shadyman> "I didnt touch you there"
[07:10] <Shadyman> lol
[07:10] <Snake__> thats me going
[07:10] <Snake__> uhhhh
[07:10] <Snake__> lol
[07:10] <Shadyman> Yeah, about 5 minutes before My "Uhhhhhhh"
[07:10] <Shadyman> lol
[07:10] <Snake__> lol
[07:13] <Snake__> Man this KDE would be so nice
[07:13] <Snake__> if this just worked
[07:13] <Snake__> lol
[07:13] <iluminator101> hey i am having trouble x server it crashes before i log in
[07:14] <iluminator101> can someone help me please
[07:14] <owner989> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:14] <Snake__> Would if I could >.>
[07:14] <owner989> type that
[07:14] <iluminator101> i did that
[07:14] <owner989> try selecting VESA
[07:14] <iluminator101> i have ati xpress 200p
[07:14] <owner989> no autodetect monitor
[07:15] <owner989> i installed ati drivers with this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[07:15] <iluminator101> how does that command go bash#VESA no autodetect monitor
[07:15] <owner989> no
[07:15] <owner989> just type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:15] <owner989> in konsole
[07:15] <owner989> it will bring up a screen
[07:16] <iluminator101> i did that it didnt work
[07:16] <owner989> what did it say
[07:16] <iluminator101> it brought up the screen i went through with it but still i could go to x
[07:16] <iluminator101> couldnt
[07:17] <owner989> you will prob have to restart
[07:17] <owner989> did you select VESA
[07:17] <iluminator101> resolution fail
[07:17] <Shadyman> eww
[07:19] <Snake__> hmm Shadyman I checked the bug reports
[07:19] <Snake__> its saying its because of the image
[07:19] <Snake__> I guess ill make a new one up and see
[07:19] <Shadyman> Uhh.
[07:19] <Shadyman> Sure
[07:19] <Shadyman> One way to findout,right? lol
[07:19] <owner989> im using KDE 3.5
[07:19] <owner989> what about you guys
[07:20] <Snake__> 3.5
[07:20] <Shadyman> owner989: Snake is.
[07:20] <Snake__> getting angry
[07:20] <Snake__> with 3.5
[07:20] <Snake__> lol
[07:20] <owner989> why
[07:20] <Shadyman> Snake__: Time to downgrade? LOL
[07:20] <Snake__> http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bad9sp.jpg
[07:20] <Snake__> Have a look at my top taskbar
[07:21] <owner989> some text issues
[07:21] <Snake__> Indeed
[07:21] <Snake__> and random mumbo jumbo
[07:21] <Snake__> lines and stuff across it
[07:21] <FHX> Snake__: That's the background
[07:22] <FHX> ..you set a background for it
[07:22] <Snake__> Yes....
[07:22] <Snake__> but if I mouse over it it all works
[07:22] <FHX> Hm.
[07:22] <Snake__> but then if I change what window is up front, it screws up again
[07:23] <FHX> That is kind of weird.
[07:23] <owner989> snake see this
[07:23] <owner989> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6297
[07:23] <owner989> i have those in my sources.list
[07:23] <Snake__> ok...
[07:23] <owner989> just making sure you do
[07:23] <Snake__> o.0
[07:23] <Snake__> what does that do with my background image...
[07:23] <Snake__> lol
[07:24] <FHX> XD
[07:24] <FHX> They both have text...=P
[07:24] <Snake__> lol
[07:24] <owner989> actually i noticed text probs in kde 3.5
[07:24] <owner989> but not exactly the same as you
[07:24] <owner989> in directory listings
[07:24] <owner989> the text overlaps
[07:24] <Snake__> HOLY CRAP.....
[07:24] <Shadyman> ?
[07:24] <Snake__> I Changed the background
[07:24] <Snake__> and its like working
[07:24] <Shadyman> Broke it, or fixed it?
[07:24] <Snake__> LOL
[07:24] <Shadyman> Oh.
[07:25] <raven> #kubuntu-de
[07:25] <Shadyman> Congrats :)
[07:25] <Snake__> Lol
[07:25] <Snake__> Thats crazy
[07:25] <Shadyman> !kubuntu-de
[07:25] <ubotu> Shadyman: I give up, what is it?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> ..and a j
[07:25] <thoreauputic> Shadyman: right - j or join should work :)
[07:26] <raven> thanks :-))
[07:26] <Shadyman> thoreauputic: but... what about K? :P
[07:26] <Snake__> Shadyman: I can't believe that
[07:26] <Snake__> lol
[07:26] <Shadyman> Snake__: Nice fix :D
[07:26] <thoreauputic> Shadyman: hehe - you mean kde clients need a "k" ? makes sense ;)
[07:27] <Shadyman> Yeah.
[07:27] <raven> join #kubuntu-de
[07:27] <FHX> Snake__: http://www.khxions.com/screenie.jpg
[07:27] <FHX> My screenie :D
[07:27] <raven> Works.
[07:27] <thoreauputic> raven: you need a / as well as I said :)
[07:27] <Snake__> Not bad
[07:27] <FHX> =D I wub Kubuntu
[07:27] <Snake__> FHX hold on, when I get mine fixed and working ill show
[07:27] <FHX> Okie
[07:27] <Snake__> YOU TOOK MY BACKGROUND
[07:27] <FHX> XD this is so fun, decorating desktops
[07:27] <Snake__> WTF
[07:27] <Snake__> lol
[07:27] <FHX> Did not >.>
[07:27] <Snake__> Did too
[07:27] <FHX> It was default =P
[07:27] <FHX> Did not
[07:28] <Shadyman> Bwahahaha
[07:28] <raven> Sorry. I'm a irc newbie...
[07:28] <FHX> More fun than decorating christmas trees...
[07:28] <Snake__> N00B!
[07:28] <Snake__> er
[07:28] <FHX> Haha LOL
[07:28] <Snake__> jp
[07:28] <thoreauputic> raven: we never would have guessed *grin*
[07:28] <Shadyman> raven: Me too, don't worry :)
[07:28] <Shadyman> raven: You'll get the hang of it.
[07:29] <FHX> Does anyone have any recommendations of stuff i can decorate my desktop with?
[07:29] <Shadyman> It's pretty bad when KDE looks 10X better than windows XP, and doesn't have the same kernel bloat, either.
[07:29] <Snake__> Agreed
[07:29] <FHX> ^_^
[07:29] <Snake__> FHX: superkaramba
[07:29] <Snake__> or whatever thats called :-D
[07:29] <Shadyman> Aye Karamba!
[07:29] <FHX> Snake__: Yeah I'm using it, but what else can you do with Karamba?
[07:30] <FHX> So far I've done a skin for amarok and the weather thing
[07:30] <Snake__> Go to kde-look.org and get some fun stuff
[07:30] <Shadyman> FHX: You can get what they call in MacOSX "Widgets"
[07:30] <FHX> Haha okie! \
[07:30] <Snake__> they have menu bars and stuff you can use
[07:30] <FHX> Ahhh
[07:30] <Snake__> MACCCCC
[07:30] <Shadyman> hehehe mac.
[07:30] <Snake__> AHHH!HH!!!
[07:30] <FHX> Hang on, karamba widgets? or kde-look widgets?
[07:30] <FHX> Snake__: You alright over there?
[07:30] <FHX> *tosses apple to Snake__ *
[07:30] <Snake__> Nope
[07:30] <Shadyman> hey, OSX is Unix-based, it's not THAT bad. I still wouldn't use it, but hey
[07:30] <Snake__> lol
[07:30] <Snake__> OSX!!!
[07:30] <Snake__> AHH
[07:30] <Snake__> er
[07:30] <Snake__> :)
[07:30] <FHX> Nice bitten apple too
[07:31] <Shadyman> FHX: Yeah, someone's got a big mouth
[07:31] <tuntun> ^_^
[07:31] <Snake__> I love RP
[07:31] <FHX> Shadyman: Heh. Eve.
[07:31] <Shadyman> FHX: Heh.
[07:31] <Snake__> FHX: I passed my test today
[07:31] <FHX> ;)
[07:31] <Snake__> Yay, now I get motorcycle
[07:31] <FHX> Snake__: Gj =)
[07:31] <FHX> haha
[07:31] <FHX> say
[07:31] <Shadyman> Snake__: Woo.
[07:32] <FHX> my amarok doens't play music well
[07:32] <FHX> =( it cuts in between.
[07:32] <FHX> any ideas?
[07:32] <Shadyman> Get some body filler to fill in the gaps?
[07:32] <FHX> Ok no seriously. What do I do.
[07:32] <Shadyman> More memory?
[07:32] <crimsun> FHX: did you configure it to use 0-second gaps between songs?
[07:33] <FHX> crimsun: Nope..how do I do that?
[07:33] <Shadyman> That's Windows' solution to everything: More memory.
[07:33] <Snake__> llol
[07:33] <Shadyman> Oh look, the kernel's 277MB. Time for MORE MEMORY.
[07:33] <Snake__> 277??
[07:33] <Snake__> Try 512
[07:33] <Snake__> :)
[07:33] <owner989> or you can use fluxbox shady
[07:33] <Shadyman> Bwahah
[07:33] <Snake__> I love windows dissin
[07:33] <Shadyman> owner989: It's ok :)
[07:33] <FHX> How do I clear up my kernel
[07:34] <Shadyman> Snake__: Yeah. i had a class this semseter, all it was was windows dissin
[07:34] <crimsun> FHX: it's in the preferences of amarok
[07:35] <Snake__> Shadyman: what class is that?
[07:35] <FHX> watch it be some mac class
[07:35] <FHX> XD
[07:35] <FHX> I'll laugh.
[07:35] <Snake__> MACCC
[07:35] <Shadyman> FHX: No, I'd cry.
[07:35] <Shadyman> FHX: "Operating Systems"
[07:35] <Shadyman> FHX: IE. Linux class.
[07:35] <owner989> amarok is a nice mp3 player
[07:35] <owner989> a bit bloated but
[07:36] <owner989> it would be better if amarok could play directly to alsa
[07:36] <owner989> without the gstreamer or arts
[07:36] <crimsun> it can and does
[07:36] <crimsun> you can use either the xine or gstreamer engine to output to alsa
[07:36] <FHX> Hang on..how do I clear up my memory?
[07:37] <crimsun> I prefer quod libet myself
[07:37] <FHX> I'm still raw to Linux
[07:37] <Shadyman> There. Got my kubuntu installed.
[07:37] <Shadyman> No more livecd for me.
[07:37] <FHX> =)
[07:37] <Shadyman> Switched back from fedora after switching from ubuntu after switching from fedora, after.. etc.
[07:37] <owner989> what do you think is better though shady
[07:38] <Shadyman> I've been flipflopping between Ubuntu and Redhat.
[07:38] <Shadyman> not redhat.. Fedora
[07:38] <Shadyman> Ubuntu supports more of my laptop features right out of the box (er, cd?)
[07:38] <Shadyman> like, hotkeys, ACPI, etc.
[07:38] <Snake__> kubuntu is god.
[07:38] <Snake__> I love it
[07:38] <Shadyman> Fedora, I have to run with ACPI=noirq
[07:38] <Snake__> I would never rid it for anythin
[07:39] <Shadyman> I can't use ethernet at the same time as ACPI in fedora. It's like, wtf?
[07:40] <Snake__> Does anyone but me feel superkaramba doesnt have enough stuff for it?
[07:40] <Snake__> its all system moniters...
[07:40] <iluminator101> how do i disable auto probe again
[07:40] <Shadyman> Snake__: So make some.
[07:40] <Snake__> and musiccontrolers
[07:40] <Snake__> Dont know how
[07:40] <Shadyman> Snake__: Learn.
[07:40] <Shadyman> ;)
[07:40] <Snake__> to lazy:-P
[07:41] <Shadyman> Snake__: Then, no whining :P
[07:41] <Snake__> Well why cant people be original
[07:41] <Snake__> theres atleaast 50000 system moniters on here
[07:41] <Shadyman> lol
[07:41] <iluminator101> hey owner
[07:41] <iluminator101> you there
[07:41] <FHX> XD
[07:41] <iluminator101> can u message me
[07:42] <FHX> Hm..Geez.
[07:42] <Snake__> Hey heres something orignal
[07:42] <Snake__> answers.com widget
[07:42] <Shadyman> killer
[07:42] <Snake__> not really
[07:42] <Snake__> but aw well
[07:43] <Shadyman> lol
[07:43] <owner989> im here iluminator
[07:43] <FHX> Have any of you tried using wine to install something yet?
[07:43] <owner989> i have fhx
[07:43] <Shadyman> Oh whoa.
[07:43] <FHX> owner989: What did you install?
[07:43] <Shadyman> This is killer!
[07:43] <owner989> IE6 and media player 7 work fine
[07:44] <owner989> also counterstrike
[07:44] <Shadyman> anyone saw the Memory chart in the KInfoCenter?
[07:44] <iluminator101> hey owner how does that vesa command go
[07:44] <FHX> owner989: Could you teach me how it works?
[07:44] <owner989> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:44] <owner989> thats the command iluminator
[07:44] <Snake__> Hmm not bad Shadyman
[07:44] <iluminator101> i did that thats not working
[07:44] <iluminator101> the vesa command
[07:44] <owner989> you have to select VESA from the list
[07:44] <Shadyman> Snake: That's something you'll never get in Windows.
[07:45] <owner989> FHX get sidenet or winetools
[07:45] <Snake__> actually there is something like that in XP
[07:45] <Snake__> lol
[07:45] <Snake__> I just forget where it is...but I know its there
[07:45] <Shadyman> Snake__: Close, but not quite.
[07:45] <owner989> http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[07:45] <owner989> thats sidenet website
[07:45] <Shadyman> Snake__: It's actually in the Task Manager, but it doesn't give you exactly the same stuff
[07:45] <iluminator101> hmm...let me try this again
[07:45] <FHX> Ok Which do you recommend?
[07:45] <Snake__> No not that
[07:45] <Snake__> Theres something else...
[07:45] <owner989> sidenet is a bit easier
[07:45] <Snake__> but I cant remeber what
[07:45] <Snake__> lol
[07:46] <Shadyman> Snake__: I know what you mean.
[07:46] <Snake__> Aw well
[07:46] <Snake__> Man I say that a lot
[07:46] <Shadyman> Snake__: Adminstration Console or something.
[07:46] <Snake__> I must really not care
[07:46] <Snake__> lol
[07:46] <Shadyman> Snake__: Guess not lol
[07:46] <Snake__> OMFG I have been decompressing these
[07:46] <Snake__> and they work fine without it
[07:46] <Snake__> God I am so DUMB
[07:46] <Shadyman> lol
[07:47] <Snake__> lol
[07:47] <Snake__> Live and learn eh?
[07:48] <FHX> Why is it asking me to install IE?
[07:48] <FHX> I don't want IE
[07:48] <FHX> I just want to be able to install other windows programs
[07:48] <FHX> What should I do?
[07:48] <Shadyman> FHX: Kill it.
[07:48] <Shadyman> FHX: Stabbity!
[07:48] <FHX> *stabs*
[07:48] <Snake__> Lol
[07:48] <Snake__> FHX: Watch out!!  Bill likes kids??
[07:49] <Shadyman> !wine
[07:49] <Snake__> more than jackson
[07:50] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell FHX about wine
[07:50] <Hentai^XP> !+wine
[07:50] <ubotu> it has been said that wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq.
[07:50] <Shadyman> Hentai^XP: That works too :)
[07:50] <Hentai^XP> lol
[07:50] <Snake__> oh man superkaraba is so nice when it works right
[07:50] <FHX> Ok sidenet installed
[07:51] <FHX> I don't understand.
[07:51] <FHX> It put a My computer icon on my desktop, and a mycomputer document
[07:52] <Snake__> lol
[07:52] <FHX> Oh okay
[07:52] <FHX> I see that.
[07:52] <Snake__> Billum is here!
[07:52] <Snake__> :)
[07:52] <FHX> Hm..but how to install something?
[07:52] <Shadyman> !repos
[07:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:53] <Shadyman> Is it just me, or does /msg ubotu whatever not work?
[07:53] <FHX> Ah ha!
[07:53] <FHX> Got it
[07:53] <Shadyman> meep?
[07:53] <Snake__> I hate linux...its so......addicting
[07:53] <FHX> uninstall registry key not available yet. What should I do?
[07:54] <Shadyman> FHX: Run.
[07:54] <FHX> ..
[07:56] <FHX> Can't open control panel.
[07:59] <Snake__> I dont understand why these people try to make linux look like XP or Mac or whatever
[07:59] <Snake__> if u want it to look like that...just use the OS
[08:00] <Shadyman> omfg.
[08:00] <Shadyman> i broke Kopete.
[08:04] <FHX> Lol.
[08:04] <FHX> Snake__: Exactly. Like that guy yesterday, remember? XD
[08:05] <FHX> His was like windows nonstop.  I put it up on my blog.
[08:05] <FHX> http://www.khxions.com
[08:05] <FHX> Bleeding hilarious.
[08:05] <Snake__> Shadyman: how did you break kopete?
[08:05] <Shadyman> SISENG error 11.
[08:06] <Shadyman> I was clicking and dragging a contact into a different folder.
[08:06] <Shadyman> that's how you break kopete.
[08:06] <Shadyman> But then, I do have 200+ contacts...
[08:07] <Snake__> lol
[08:09] <FHX> Maybe it's just being rebellious...computers have feelings too. >.>
[08:09] <Snake__> Need more WIDGITS
[08:09] <FHX> What do you have right now??
[08:09] <FHX> I can't even find any.
[08:09] <FHX> Are they on kde-look?
[08:10] <Snake__> I got as system moniter, a weather thingy, a answers.com thing, and im trying to find something for kmail now
[08:10] <FHX> gmail?
[08:10] <Snake__> kmail
[08:10] <_raven> Take kbiff
[08:10] <Snake__> Or I might just go gmail...cuz thats the only email I use
[08:10] <Snake__> lol
[08:11] <_raven> How of you think to be smart in passwd/sudo questions?
[08:11] <_raven> Who#
[08:11] <Snake__> Not I said the cat
[08:12] <FHX> _raven: What?
[08:12] <_raven> Need to know why i can use gksu but not kdesu (Error)
[08:13] <Spiro> Hi, what/where are the locale configuration files? I wish to know how kubuntu set my PC
[08:13] <_raven> @spiro /etc
[08:14] <Spiro> file name?
[08:14] <_raven> For that i'd have to look myself :))
[08:14] <_raven> Did you try linux google yet?
[08:15] <Spiro> in Gentoo I have two files: /etc/locales.build and /etc/env.d/02locale  In KUbuntu?
[08:15] <_raven> What would you like to do? For every change there's a script or binary.
[08:16] <Spiro> I wish to leanr what kubuntu set for my locale. I wish to see if it implemented UTF-8 and how rather than ISO
[08:16] <Spiro> There should be at least two files that contain these settings
[08:17] <_raven> Sorry, don't know that. Are you experienced with gksu/kdesu?
[08:17] <crimsun> /etc/locales.gen in Breezy.
[08:17] <crimsun> echo $LANG
[08:18] <Spiro> thanks
[08:19] <_raven> Here are so much people, but no one might help me. :((
[08:19] <_raven> or?
[08:19] <crimsun> _raven: what's the issue?
[08:19] <crimsun> kdesu works fine on the machines I've tried
[08:20] <_raven> Not if i touched it. :)
[08:20] <crimsun> well then, what did you do?
[08:21] <FHX> Hey everyone there's a slight feature bugging me. on my menu, if a program is not minimized it doesn't appear on my toolbar at all, only if it's minimized. Is there a way for me to allow it to be there when it is both either maximized or minimized?
[08:21] <Shadyman> fhx: Yes.
[08:21] <FHX> Shadyman: Enlighten me?
[08:21] <Shadyman> FHX: I saw it in the settings here somehwere/
[08:21] <Shadyman> Right click on panel, Configure
[08:21] <Shadyman> go to "Hiding" tab
[08:22] <Shadyman> Oh wait
[08:22] <_raven> First, i installed ubuntu. But i couldn't get used with gnome, so i installed KDE. Eveything was fine, until i deleted my user dir by mistake :((
[08:22] <Shadyman> _raven: Ew.
[08:22] <_raven> Ew? What?
[08:22] <Shadyman> FHX: Click on the "Taskbar" side button, there's an option for "show only minimized windows"
[08:24] <Spiro> Another question: I am trying just to learn how kubuntu configured my PC. In Gentoo I have /etc/conf.d which contains all configuration files. Is there an equivalent in kubuntu? Files I am looking for are like (keymaps, clock, consolefont, hdparm,rc,
[08:25] <_raven> Use "ALT+F2" then "sudo kde-settings"
[08:25] <FHX> Shadyman: Thanks
[08:25] <_raven> no prob.
[08:25] <Shadyman> FHX: Did that fix it? :)
[08:26] <FHX> Worked like a charm ;)
[08:26] <Shadyman> FHX: Woot.
[08:26] <FHX> =)
[08:26] <Spiro> _raven, will I then be able to see kde settings or kubuntu settings?
[08:26] <Shadyman> FHX: Not bad for having used Kubuntu for 3 hours, eh?
[08:26] <Shadyman> hehe
[08:26] <_raven> How make you this text red?
[08:27] <FHX> Shadyman: Yeah =P
[08:27] <Snake__> FHX: you herE?
[08:27] <Snake__> Yep
[08:27] <Spiro> ?
[08:27] <Snake__> I got my SS hang on
[08:27] <Shadyman> lol
[08:27] <FHX> XD Snake__ Nope, i'm there
[08:27] <Snake__> lol
[08:27] <FHX> lol
[08:27] <FHX> Just to keep it going ;)
[08:28] <Snake__> http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9076/sweet2qb.jpg
[08:28] <mrtanooki> kubuntu seems pretty unimpressive thus far
[08:28] <Snake__> like?
[08:28] <_raven> @spiro kde. But you can use "base-config" from console
[08:29] <Spiro> _raven, I will. What does this to?
[08:29] <_raven> Opens a menu guide with several options to config. You can choose and abort what you want.
[08:30] <Spiro> great. Thanks
[08:30] <mrtanooki> http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/
[08:31] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell mrtanooki about offtopic
[08:31] <Snake__> lololol
[08:31] <_raven> Could someone explain me how i can address text to someone special?
[08:31] <Snake__> like ur gf?
[08:31] <Snake__> :-D
[08:31] <_raven> ?
[08:31] <FHX> _raven: What, we're not special enough for you?
[08:31] <Snake__> you said address text to someone special
[08:31] <FHX> you can just address us here
[08:32] <Snake__> FHX: like mine?
[08:32] <_raven> Just want to know how i can enlighten text in red.
[08:32] <FHX> Snake__: Link me?
[08:32] <FHX> AH
[08:32] <Snake__> FHX: http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9076/sweet2qb.jpg
[08:32] <FHX> I missed the link up there
[08:32] <FHX> got it
[08:32] <Snake__> _raven: you just type their name
[08:33] <FHX> Damn it's kickass Snake__
[08:33] <Snake__> if you want a short cut, type a few letters of their name, and press "tab"
[08:33] <_raven> Snake_ This way?
[08:33] <Snake__> You didnt press tab
[08:33] <Snake__> and you missed a "_"
[08:33] <_raven> Snake__:  Got it!
[08:33] <Snake__> :)
[08:33] <Snake__> there ya go, now its red on my screen
[08:34] <Snake__> FHX: im still not happy with the widgets tho
[08:34] <_raven> Snake__: Cool.
[08:34] <Snake__> the system moniter is so big I can't find anything cool to equal it out with
[08:34] <Snake__> lol
[08:34] <Snake__> I GOT IT! another system moniter!
[08:34] <Snake__> lol
[08:34] <FHX> Snake__: Hm. how did you get the center pieces like that though?!
[08:34] <Snake__> What do you mean
[08:34] <Snake__> at the bottom?
[08:35] <FHX> Nope, the things dodwn the center
[08:35] <FHX> XD
[08:35] <_raven> crimsun: Are you still there?
[08:37] <crimsun> not really, I'm leaving work now
[08:37] <crimsun> I'll be back in ~45 mins
[08:38] <_raven> crimsun: ok
[08:39] <Shadyman> !kde35
[08:39] <ubotu> Shadyman: I give up, what is it?
[08:40] <Shadyman> !kde3.5
[08:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[08:41] <_raven> Is still someone here to explain me why I can ran gksu in kde, but not kdesu?
[08:41] <_raven> run
[09:51] <[ITA] MisterX> IT SNOWS! XD
[09:58] <[ITA] MisterX> hem, how can I format a floppy disk?
[10:02] <hussam> [ITA] MisterX: there's a kfloppy uility in kde
[10:02] <hussam> utility*
[10:04] <[ITA] MisterX> Ok. I'm searching
[10:07] <hussam> [ITA] MisterX: sudo apt-get install kdeutils
[10:07] <[ITA] MisterX> It formats /dev/fd0u1440 instead of /dev/fd0
[10:09] <hussam> I don't know sorry, I rarely use floppy disks. maybe who does can be of better help.
[10:10] <[ITA] MisterX> Don't worry: I don't use very often floppy-s too =)
[10:11] <[ITA] MisterX> bleah... poor english :(
[10:21] <hussam> [ITA] MisterX: do both /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd0u1440 exist ?
[10:34] <raven> Hi there
[10:37] <[ITA] MisterX> hussa: No, only /dev/fd0 exists but I'm trying to create a nominal link from /dev/fd0 to /dev/fd0u1440
[10:37] <[ITA] MisterX> *hussam
[10:45] <[ITA] MisterX> hussam: Now it works ;)
[10:46] <yannux_> hye :)
[10:46] <[ITA] MisterX> # ln fd0 fd0u1440
[11:31] <penguinzdr> hi all
[11:32] <penguinzdr> what's up?
[11:33] <_karl> hello?
[11:34] <_karl> hi?
[11:35] <thoreauputic> _karl: very quiet in here at the moment
[11:35] <thoreauputic> _karl: much busier in #ubuntu
[11:35] <_karl> looks like it
[11:35] <thoreauputic> #kubuntu seems to be like that - it goes in cycles
[11:36] <thoreauputic> but there are only 118 lurkers as opposed to nearly 600 in #ubuntu :)
[11:37] <_karl> this time of day probably doesnt help
[11:37] <thoreauputic> well, that depends what country you live in :)
[11:38] <_karl> true
[11:38] <thoreauputic> Thu Dec 29 21:38:37 EST 2005
[11:38] <penguinzdr> looks like all people are living in the states :(
[11:38] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[11:39] <_karl> do you guys happen to know how to get wireless network going?
[11:39] <penguinzdr> Thu Dec 29 12:39 EET 2005
[11:39] <_karl> 2 in the godamn morning
[11:39] <_karl> pulling my hair out trying to get my wireless working
[11:40] <thoreauputic> _karl: west coast North America?
[11:40] <_karl> ya
[11:40] <_karl> canada
[11:40] <thoreauputic> good guess :)
[11:41] <penguinzdr> _karl:  which city?
[11:42] <_karl> penticton
[11:43] <penguinzdr> wow those guys on #gentoo are 828
[11:44] <penguinzdr> on #debian are 600
[11:44] <thoreauputic> 592 in #ubuntu
[11:45] <_karl> is it a competition
[11:45] <thoreauputic> which is pretty amazing after one year - to be that close to #debian
[11:45] <thoreauputic> heh - not a competition, no
[11:45] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:46] <thoreauputic> but add #kubuntu to #debian and we are over 700 !
[11:46] <thoreauputic> oops
[11:46] <_karl> why must linux be so hard?
[11:46] <thoreauputic> I meant #ubuntu not #debian of course
[11:46] <thoreauputic> _karl: it gets easier
[11:47] <thoreauputic> _karl: if you are messing with wireless it is hard, yes
[11:47] <FHX> Well Ubuntu rocks.
[11:47] <_karl> i'll believe it when i can use wireless
[11:47] <FHX> Heh.
[11:47] <crimsun> _karl: which wifi chipset?
[11:47] <FHX> Hey have any of you tried using wine yet?
[11:48] <crimsun> I use wine daily for MAC.exe
[11:48] <FHX> I installed sidenet earlier today but not sure how ot install programs
[11:48] <_karl> how do i find the chipset?
[11:48] <crimsun> _karl: do you have a "Centrino" logo on your computer?
[11:48] <_karl> no, its a dell trumobile 1400, that i know
[11:49] <crimsun> probably broadcom or atheros, then
[11:49] <_karl> i used ndiswrapper to install it
[11:49] <_karl> its all installed, just cant connect to a network
[11:50] <_karl> i can even see networks, but cant connect to them
[11:50] <owner989> what kind of networks
[11:50] <_karl> wifi
[11:50] <owner989> must be passworded
[11:50] <owner989> the network key
[11:50] <_karl> i took off the password
[11:51] <owner989> make sure you disabled mac address filter
[11:51] <owner989> as well
[11:51] <owner989> on router
[11:51] <athlon> I installed Firefox 1.5 in ~/firefox. How do I tell KDE to use that Firefox as the default browser ? So if I logged out of KDE while Firefox is running then KDE would start the FF 1.5 when I next log in
[11:52] <_karl> no filters
[11:52] <crimsun> _karl: can you associate with an open AP?
[11:52] <lucas> hey. I'm trying to upgrade my kernel to vanilla 2.6.14.  I'm now at a point where I can boot into the new kernel, but the kernel cannot find my NV module. Does anybody know the "right" way to install this module for the kernel?
[11:52] <owner989> lucas you will probably have to reinstall the drivers from scratch
[11:52] <crimsun> lucas: you mean nvidia.ko, I presume. There is no nv.ko.
[11:52] <owner989> thats what i had to do
[11:53] <_karl> when i do iwlist scan, i see a network
[11:53] <_karl> if thats what you mean
[11:53] <owner989> thats actually good karl
[11:53] <owner989> it means your card is working
[11:53] <owner989> do you use ndiswrapper
[11:53] <_karl> yes
[11:53] <lucas> crimsun: crap, you're right. I have 'nvidia' in my xorg.conf, not nv.    Is nvidia the closed source binary one, or the open one?
[11:53] <crimsun> lucas: and yes, unless you're familiar with our l-r-m build infrastructure, it's easier to install build-essential, gcc-3.4, linux-headers-$(uname -r) and compile nvidia.ko from Nvidia's driver tarball.
[11:53] <owner989> yes crimsun
[11:54] <owner989> i know there is a guide for installing ati drivers like that
[11:54] <crimsun> lucas: you're confusing the X server glue and the kernel module.
[11:54] <crimsun> lucas: 'nv' and 'nvidia' are X server glue ("driver")
[11:54] <crimsun> lucas: nvidia.ko is a kernel module
[11:54] <lucas> crimson: k, I wasn't aware these weren't referencing kernel modules.
[11:55] <crimsun> lucas: 'nvidia' requires nvidia.ko. That's the binary-only Nvidia driver.
[11:55] <lucas> crimsun: well, I'm not fermiliar with the l-r-m build infrastructure, but I don't need the easiest way per se. I want to learn to do it "right", for kubuntu.
[11:55] <crimsun> lucas: 'nv' is the DSFG-free X server glue.
[11:55] <crimsun> lucas: you'll want to use the hints that I provided above, then.
[11:55] <lucas> crimsun: thanks for the clarification. so first thing on the list is getting nvidia.ko in my /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>..    I'll just install it from the nvidia tarball.
[11:56] <FHX> Hm..could someone please advise? How do I use wine?
[11:56] <crimsun> DFSG-free, rather
[11:56] <crimsun> FHX: install it from universe, then execute ``wine foo.exe'' where foo.exe is a Win32 executable
[11:57] <_karl> once i detect a wireless connection, how do i go about connecting to it?
[11:57] <FHX> crimsun: As in install from adept?
[11:57] <crimsun> FHX: sure
[11:57] <FHX> Ok hang on i'll install it
[11:57] <crimsun> _karl: the output from ``iwlist'' should confirm that you're associated with an open AP.
[11:58] <crimsun> _karl: or ``iwconfig''
[11:58] <_karl> it says ESSID:off/any
[11:58] <crimsun> _karl: that means it's unassociated
[11:58] <FHX> crimsun: I installed sidenet earlier today, how do I uninstall it?
[11:59] <owner989> why didnt you like it fhx
[11:59] <FHX> owner989: I don't know how to use it! DX
[11:59] <crimsun> FHX: I've never heard of "sidenet"
[11:59] <owner989> all it does is create /home/username/c
[11:59] <FHX> owner989: When I open control panel a popup error says no applets available
[11:59] <FHX> owner989: Hm..how can I uninstall it?
[12:00] <_karl> when i do iwconfig essid 'name' nothing changes
[12:00] <owner989> rm -r /home/username/c
[12:00] <owner989> username being your username
[12:00] <crimsun> _karl: you need to pass it a wifi iface, too
[12:00] <owner989> but
[12:00] <FHX> run that in terminal?
[12:00] <owner989> yes
[12:00] <_karl> whats that?
[12:00] <owner989> that wont actually uninstall wine however
[12:00] <owner989> just the fake c drive sidenet makes
[12:00] <FHX> i want to uninstall wine..
[12:00] <crimsun> _karl: that's the actual network interface
[12:00] <FHX> and that didn't work
[12:00] <owner989> oh yes
[12:01] <owner989> sudo rm -r /home/username/c
[12:01] <owner989> forgot
[12:01] <FHX> Hm..still doesn't work
[12:01] <crimsun> FHX: you want to /uninstall/ wine?
[12:01] <FHX> crimsun: Nope, just sidenet
[12:01] <FHX> i want to install wine
[12:01] <crimsun> oh
[12:01] <_karl> sorry ya, iwconfig wlan0 essid 'name' does nothing
[12:01] <FHX> because I have no idea what sidenet did
[12:01] <owner989> where are you typing this fhx
[12:02] <crimsun> _karl: what does ``dmesg'' tell you about the iface? (don't flood here)
[12:02] <FHX> owner989: Terminal
[12:02] <owner989> ok
[12:02] <owner989> type wincfg
[12:02] <owner989> winecfg
[12:02] <FHX> yup
[12:02] <FHX> it opened wine config
[12:03] <FHX> owner989: what does sidenet do?
[12:04] <FHX> owner989: Hang on..is this what wine is supposed to look like?
[12:04] <_karl> [4299865.540000]  ndiswrapper (add_wep_key:644): adding encryption key 1 failed (C0010015)
[12:04] <_karl> [4299874.746000]  ndiswrapper (add_wep_key:644): adding encryption key 1 failed (C0010015)
[12:05] <_karl> does that mean anything?
[12:05] <FHX> crimsun: Okay what do I do after it is installed?
[12:07] <crimsun> _karl: I thought you said you're using an open AP
[12:07] <crimsun> FHX: what are you trying to do?
[12:07] <FHX> How do I execute wine foo.exe?
[12:07] <FHX> trying to install a program
[12:07] <FHX> using wine
[12:07] <crimsun> FHX: you type it in a Konsole
[12:07] <crimsun> wine something.exe
[12:08] <FHX> wine theprogramname.exe?
[12:08] <FHX> does it matter where the location of this program is?
[12:09] <crimsun> FHX: yes, it matters. Provide the full path if it's not in the current directory.
[12:09] <FHX> Okay, just checking. Thanks.
[12:09] <owner989> FHX maybe you should read the wine userguide
[12:09] <owner989> http://www.winehq.com/site/documentation
[12:09] <FHX> ok
[12:10] <_karl_> crimsun i'm not sure what i was supposed to get out of dmesg
[12:10] <crimsun> _karl_: you got what you're supposed to
[12:10] <crimsun> _karl_: you haven't answered my question about the open AP
[12:11] <_karl_> sorry, i had a connection problem, not sure i got it
[12:15] <_karl_> crimsun, does it mean that there is a key?
[12:15] <crimsun> < crimsun> _karl: I thought you said you're using an open AP
[12:15] <_karl_> i am
[12:15] <crimsun> _karl_: it means you've configured it to try and use a key(s)
[12:18] <_karl_> how would i get rid of the key
[12:18] <_karl_> i did have a wep key on the AP but then i removed it because it was not working
[12:19] <_karl_> i dont see where i have a key now though...
[12:20] <crimsun> _karl_: did you put it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:21] <_karl_> there is no key ther
[12:22] <_karl_> in /etc/network/interfaces it reads: iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[12:22] <_karl_> wireless-essid 'name of ap'
[12:22] <_karl_> and then talks about eth0
[12:27] <crimsun> _karl_: hmm, ndiswrapper has a configuration file, too; try setting that
[12:28] <hussam> How do I restart the bullet numbering to 1 in OpenOffice?
[12:52] <Milktea> My laptop suddenly turns off sometimes when the lid is closed
[12:52] <Milktea> after a few hours
[01:01] <duende> is there a dapper support chan?
[01:04] <yuri_> hello, Anyone?
[01:04] <robotgeek> hey yuri_
[01:04] <yuri_> Sup:)?
[01:04] <robotgeek> hmm, ntfs? yuri_
[01:04] <robotgeek> !ntfs
[01:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[01:04] <yuri_> hey how did u know?
[01:05] <FHX> what's the shortcut for quit? windows+q?
[01:05] <robotgeek> yuri_: i'm logged in #ubuntu too, i saw ur question there. i don't read minds :)
[01:05] <yuri_> :P
[01:05] <robotgeek> FHX: i would guess so
[01:05] <Hobbsee> hi
[01:05] <robotgeek> hey Hobbsee
[01:05] <duende> are there any reported issues with locales in dapper?
[01:05] <Hobbsee> :) hey robotgeek
[01:05] <robotgeek> duende: i did face something today
[01:05] <Milktea> What's a good app to take screenshots of a video file
[01:06] <robotgeek> duende: some dpkg error, went away when i removed the package locales
[01:06] <duende> robotgeek: will an updated package just not install with no real reason why
[01:06] <duende> ok
[01:06] <Hobbsee> duende: i think so, there's http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108442 as a sticky, which could be useful
[01:06] <yuri_> robotgeek: 10x:)
[01:07] <robotgeek> yuri_: np
[01:08] <duende> Hobbsee : tnx
[01:08] <Hobbsee> duende: also, does http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106978 help?
[01:08] <FHX> Hm..brb
[01:20] <Milktea> What's a good app to take screenshots of a video file
[01:22] <xanax`> hi
[01:23] <anth0ny_> How should I configure my partitions if I would like to multi-boot with Windows/Kubuntu?
[01:23] <anth0ny_> Tried with 15GB at the beginning assigned to Windows, but the Kubuntu installer failed to complete
[01:23] <anth0ny_> and the Windows-partition was destroyed
[01:24] <Milktea> How much did you leave for Kubuntu?
[01:24] <anth0ny_> 50-60 GB
[01:24] <Milktea> o_o
[01:24] <Milktea> How did you set up the partition table?
[01:24] <Milktea> mounted the Kubuntu partition at / (root) right
[01:24] <anth0ny_> 15GB primary partition for NTFS
[01:25] <anth0ny_> 10GB / for Kubuntu (also primary)
[01:25] <anth0ny_> 2,6 GB swap (Primary too)
[01:25] <anth0ny_> And 50 GB for /home (Logical partition)
[01:26] <anth0ny_> the debootstrap program exited with an error
[01:26] <anth0ny_> That was the error I received
[01:26] <Milktea> o_O
[01:26] <Milktea> No clue, sorry
[01:26] <anth0ny_> okay
[01:28] <Hobbsee> you wouldnt need a 2.6gb swap
[01:29] <xanax`> it's too much
[01:29] <Hobbsee> mine's has only ever used 200mb, at the max
[01:29] <Milktea> Did you check your cd for consistency?
[01:31] <Hobbsee> anth0ny_: what was the error?
[01:32] <dipnlik_> hi all. in amaroK, is it possible to edit/disable its auto-scoring?
[01:33] <anth0ny_> Milktea: I am about to burn a new ISO
[01:33] <anth0ny_> maybe its the DVD that has a problem
[01:33] <jazwec> please i have a problem with kubuntu..i have one ext3 partiion with 188 gb and 1 swap with 2 gb..now i want to resize that ext3 one to 100gb and install windows on that freespace..how can i do it?
[01:34] <jazwec> somebody told me i have to use live cd of kubuntu..but thats only thing i know
[01:35] <Hobbsee> jazwec: i'm thinking you'll have to use fdisk, with the live cd, so try man fdisk
[01:35] <jazwec> hobbsee without loosing data?
[01:35] <Hobbsee> hope so - but you are repartitioning
[01:37] <[-SiO-] > does anyone think setting up ASUS AX700 PRO (grafix card using the ati radion x700 chipset) would be a pain?
[01:37] <Hobbsee> [-SiO-] : um, best bet would be to google it, and see what type of results you got
[01:38] <[-SiO-] > yah im already on that ;)
[01:39] <anth0ny_> Can't remember how many primary partition a disk can contain
[01:39] <anth0ny_> anyone?
[01:39] <anth0ny_> is it 3 primary and the rest logical?
[01:40] <robotgeek> anth0ny_: that's only on windows, i think
[01:40] <Hobbsee> i think it's 4
[01:41] <Hobbsee> but dont quote me on that
[01:41] <anth0ny_> Hobbsee: So if I create 3 primary partitions and one logical, then it is okay?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> i would think so
[01:41] <Hobbsee> i always stick my swap at the end...
[01:41] <anth0ny_> Hobbsee: Well, I actually thought that swap should be primary?
[01:42] <Hobbsee> not sure on that one
[01:42] <anth0ny_> In VMware ESX we learned that /boot, / and swap should always be primary
[01:43] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:44] <anth0ny_> Well, I think it was my defective media
[01:44] <anth0ny_> seems like my new CD is working much better
[01:44] <anth0ny_> I hope that my Windows-partition is still alive somewhere
[01:44] <anth0ny_> heh
[01:45] <anth0ny_> which version of KDE is bundled with Kubuntu 5.10?
[01:46] <apokryphos> anth0ny_: kde 3.4
[01:46] <raphink> 3.4.3 anth0ny_
[01:46] <apokryphos> but there's a repository with kde 3.5
[01:46] <apokryphos> !kde 3.5
[01:46] <ubotu> well, kde 3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:46] <anth0ny_> apokryphos: so I should just do dist-upgrade then?
[01:47] <apokryphos> anth0ny_: make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, enable the new repository, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:47] <anth0ny_> okay, thankz
[01:47] <anth0ny_> thanks
[01:48] <anth0ny_> Kubuntu seems like a nice dist
[01:48] <apokryphos> it's great
[01:48] <anth0ny_> I am used to FreeBSD, but needed VMware GSX support
[01:48] <anth0ny_> VMware does not officially support Ubuntu/Kubuntu but I made it work
[01:49] <Hobbsee> night all...
[01:51] <mcscruff> i have a folder thats set to root privilidges, how can i make it so it isnt.. and also all subfolders and files
[01:53] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:58] <robotgeek> hey slow-motion
[01:58] <slow-motion> hi robotgeek
[02:13] <jazwec> please could anybody help me? when i want to start VLC it says: vlc: error while loading shared libraries: libdvbpsi.so.3: cannot open shared object file: Input/output error
[02:35] <FHX> Hey
[03:10] <hyperactivecrond> www.rzone.com
[03:10] <hyperactivecrond> oops
[03:10] <hyperactivecrond> www.rpath.com
[03:10] <hyperactivecrond> heh create your own distro in minutes... this should be good
[03:15] <OS2Mac> hi all... I know I have asked this before but I forgot the answer.
[03:15] <OS2Mac> how do I set Kubuntu to autodetect my wlan0 card (using ndiswrapper) on boot up.
[03:16] <OS2Mac> I have done this before but I had to reinstall.
[03:20] <mth`MAW> hi
[03:27] <Spiro> Hi, I asked before for a way to be able to read configuration files (files like fstab, rc, clock,locale...) and was adviced to run "base-config" from konsole but nothing works. It does not recognize it as a command. Any help, please?
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> Spiro: run it as root
[03:28] <Spiro> hot to become root?
[03:29] <hyperactivecrond> !tell spiro about rootsudo
[03:32] <Spiro> hyperactivecrond, would it then be: "kdesu base-config" what I have to type?
[03:32] <hyperactivecrond> Spriro: open up Konsole, type 'sudo base-config' with out the quotes
[03:33] <Spiro> thks
[03:33] <hyperactivecrond> np
[03:34] <FHX> How do I install an application in wine? do I do it through wine config, then under applications select the .exe file?
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: download the installer
[03:34] <FHX> I have wine installed..
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> then run command wine nameoffile.exe
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: the program
[03:34] <FHX> ah okay. Thanks =)
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> np fhx
[03:34] <FHX> the program?
[03:34] <FHX> hang on..I only have wine config, is that it?
[03:35] <hyperactivecrond> do sudo apt-get install wine and tell me what happens
[03:35] <FHX> as in wine on my kmenu, then several subbranches including wine config.
[03:35] <FHX> wine is already newest veresion
[03:35] <FHX> *version
[03:35] <FHX> so I assume it's done.
[03:35] <FHX> that's what terminal said
[03:35] <hyperactivecrond> yep
[03:36] <FHX> okies ^^ sounds great.
[03:36] <FHX> and will the same command work for installing things such as games?
[03:36] <hyperactivecrond> FHX yep
[03:36] <hyperactivecrond> but some games won't...
[03:37] <hyperactivecrond> !cedega
[03:37] <ubotu> from memory, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[03:37] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: ^^
[03:37] <hussam> FHX: using this for wine debs? http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/
[03:37] <hyperactivecrond> hussam: he apt-get'ed it
[03:37] <hussam> from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ ?
[03:38] <hyperactivecrond> hussam: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:39] <FHX> hyperactivecrond: Thanks ^^ can't wait to try out some games.
[03:39] <hussam> hyperactivecrond: I know but the on in wine.sourceforge.net is newer version
[03:39] <FHX> hussam: using wine for some idiotic school needed programs..and then..GAMES! =D
[03:39] <hyperactivecrond> hussam: debs don't always work with ubuntu
[03:39] <FHX> *frowns* hang on..guys..enlighten me. debs =?
[03:40] <hussam> hyperactivecrond: these are for breezy:http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/breezy/
[03:40] <hyperactivecrond> aah ok
[03:40] <hyperactivecrond> !deb
[03:40] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:40] <FHX> Hm..but what is it?
[03:40] <FHX> o.o
[03:40] <FHX> as in what does a deb file normally do?
[03:40] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: a deb is a special type of file that apt-get downloads and installs automagically
[03:40] <hyperactivecrond> it's an installation file
[03:41] <FHX> Hm..I see. but isn't that like all the other files?
[03:41] <FHX> sudo apt-get install file?
[03:41] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: yes but apt downloads the debs and installs them
[03:42] <FHX> Hm..so I would assume debs are more "important"? as in apt-get knows it needs to be auto-installed?
[03:42] <hussam> FHX: add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list:  deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[03:42] <covalence> phx : think of apt as a search engine to install program easily
[03:43] <hyperactivecrond> ...
[03:43] <hussam> Actually, I don't like wine. If you want an win32 program, either use windows or tell the author of the program to port it to linux
[03:44] <FHX> add that line to my sources list?
[03:44] <hussam> yep
[03:44] <FHX> add it where?
[03:45] <hussam> at the end in a new line
[03:45] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:45] <FHX> ok
[03:45] <FHX> hyperactivecrond: I bookmarked it =P
[03:45] <hyperactivecrond> :)
[03:45] <hussam> make that kdesu kedit /etc/apt/source.list
[03:45] <hyperactivecrond> d'oh
[03:45] <hussam> he prolly does not have gedit
[03:45] <hyperactivecrond> i realized that
[03:45] <hyperactivecrond> :P
[03:45] <hussam> nether do I lol
[03:46] <hyperactivecrond> i 4got we were in #kubuntu
[03:46] <FHX> hussam: is that space intentional?
[03:46] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: YES
[03:46] <hyperactivecrond> or else
[03:46] <hyperactivecrond> it won't work
[03:46] <FHX> ok ok
[03:46] <hussam> FHX: yes
[03:46] <FHX> hussam: it won't let me type anything in my sources.list
[03:46] <FHX> ?
[03:47] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: did you do kdesu kedit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:47] <hussam> hyperactivecrond: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=33065
[03:47] <hyperactivecrond> hussam; it's a button..
[03:47] <FHX> ok hang on opening terminal now to run that..
[03:47] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: easier way: kmenu --> run command
[03:48] <FHX> gotit
[03:48] <hussam> hyperactivecrond: I was only kidding ( a gnome button on kde-look.org )
[03:48] <hyperactivecrond> lol i get it nvm
[03:48] <FHX> the command doesn't work
[03:49] <FHX> command kedit /etc/apt/sources.list was not found
[03:49] <hyperactivecrond> ah
[03:49] <hussam> try kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/source.list
[03:49] <hussam> sorry kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:49] <cristiano> Hi
[03:50] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <FHX> hyperactivecrond: that seems to work..
[03:50] <FHX> it is loading kdesu
[03:50] <cristiano> the changes I made in a file stored in my pendrive are not being actually saved... any hint?
[03:51] <hyperactivecrond> cristiano: is it mounted? than umounted?
[03:51] <hyperactivecrond> is it set for read-only?
[03:51] <cristiano> I think hotplug does that
[03:51] <FHX> ok! opened up in kate, line added, and saved. ^^
[03:52] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: sudo apt-get update
[03:52] <Zeh_pequenoo> exit
[03:52] <cristiano> There's nothing on my fstab about it
[03:52] <hyperactivecrond> do that in Konsole
[03:52] <FHX> yup ^^ updating
[03:53] <hyperactivecrond> then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade your wine
[03:53] <hussam> then sudo apt-get install wine
[03:54] <hyperactivecrond> hussam: dist-upgrade gets a new one
[03:55] <anth0ny_> is "Breezy Badger" a new version? Last time I installed 5.10, the name was just Breezy
[03:55] <anth0ny_> And the installer was also a little bit different
[03:55] <hyperactivecrond> anth0ny_: Breezy == Breezy Badger
[03:55] <anth0ny_> Okay
[03:55] <FHX> okie done
[03:55] <anth0ny_> hyperactivecrond: How do you explain the different installer?
[03:56] <FHX> what is the command for creating a .exe shortcut in my kmenu editor?
[03:56] <FHX> like for firestarter it was kdesu firestarter
[03:56] <hyperactivecrond> anth0ny_: different installer?
[03:57] <hyperactivecrond> what difference?
[03:57] <anth0ny_> hyperactivecrond: My last iso-file didn't ask me if I was using GMT
[03:57] <hyperactivecrond> did u do the pre-release? to install?
[03:58] <anth0ny_> Don't think so
[03:58] <cristiano> i found that "sync" writes to pendrive
[03:58] <hyperactivecrond> you mustve had a pre-release
[03:59] <anth0ny_> hyperactivecrond: this is the one I am using now
[03:59] <anth0ny_> http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/5.10/kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[03:59] <anth0ny_> Isn't this the newest one?
[03:59] <hyperactivecrond> yes
[03:59] <anth0ny_> thanks
[04:10] <anth0ny_> Thought I chose EXT3 as the filesystem, but during boot Ubuntu says EXT2FS, does "/" have to be EXT2?
[04:16] <hyperactivecrond> anth0ny_: resierfs
[04:16] <hyperactivecrond> reiser*
[04:18] <nalioth> anth0ny_: it'll come out ext3
[04:19] <nalioth> anth0ny_: ext3 is just ext2 + journaling support (which makes it ext3)
[04:19] <nalioth> anth0ny_: i wouldnt use reiser unless you know what it does.
[04:22] <rohan> anyone know how i can get translucent selection rectangle in kde ? on other distros, its default in kubuntu
[04:33] <crown> hi. does anyone use chinese (asia) input under kda apps?
[04:33] <Quench> err can someone help me, as i get into kubuntu, all is ok, but then as a open the menu at bottem, screen corrupts alittle and it freezes ?
[04:34] <rohan> is it ubuntu breezy, Quench ?
[04:34] <Quench> i think so
[04:35] <rohan> Quench: check it.
[04:35] <Quench> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso
[04:36] <rohan> yes, thats breezy.
[04:36] <rohan> Quench: which video driver are you using ? nvidia ? qti ?
[04:36] <rohan> *ati
[04:36] <Quench> well
[04:36] <Quench> nvidia
[04:36] <Quench> but i havnt installed any drivers yet really
[04:36] <Quench> since i just finished installing]
[04:37] <rohan> are the md5sum's proper
[04:37] <Quench> err i dont know ?
[04:38] <Quench> also, i cant boot into umbuntu when i unplug my cdrom ?
[04:40] <draken> lol
[04:40] <rohan> Quench: can you access the cdrom ? are you on windows currently ?
[04:40] <draken> Quench here
[04:40] <draken> i just got on
[04:40] <draken> seems to not be dying now
[04:41] <draken> err, wat is password of root at start ?
[04:41] <penguinzdr> !rootsudo
[04:41] <ubotu> rootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:42] <penguinzdr> draken: see what says ubotu
[04:42] <LiGhTeNiN> I have never tried live-cds before, today was the first time
[04:42] <LiGhTeNiN> unfortunately, it didn't end up so good
[04:42] <LiGhTeNiN> I couldnt even start it
[04:43] <LiGhTeNiN> Maybe there is a manual out?
[04:43] <LiGhTeNiN> I mean, I dont really know how the live-cd works
[04:44] <LiGhTeNiN> I have only used the installation versions before
[04:44] <hunika> hello
[04:44] <hunika> raphink:?
[04:45] <penguinzdr> LiGhTeNiN: what exactly is your problem?
[04:45] <FHX> I wub Kubuntu. ^^
[04:45] <penguinzdr> wub = ?
[04:45] <FHX> haha love
[04:45] <FHX> wub = love
[04:45] <FHX> wub>lub>luv>love
[04:45] <FHX> XD
[04:46] <LiGhTeNiN> well, how does it work?
[04:46] <penguinzdr> calc wub = love
[04:46] <FHX> penguinzdr: It just does >.>
[04:46] <FHX> like...magick!
[04:46] <penguinzdr> LiGhTeNiN: well, you insert the CD in the CD drive, reboot and linux boots by magic!
[04:46] <FHX> Magick! Told you
[04:47] <LiGhTeNiN> I boot up, choose the languages and stuff
[04:47] <LiGhTeNiN> It checks hardware, network configuration, loads of stuff in the menu
[04:48] <SuperLag> We have a slower connection at work, than I do at home.  Is there a way for me to fetch all the update files on my home machine, and burn them to a CD so I can have all the latest stuff when I install Kubuntu on my machine here?
[04:48] <LiGhTeNiN> then I enter the shell?
[04:48] <FHX> could someone ask ubotu to send me some links that teach me konsole commands and such?
[04:48] <FHX> as well as info on gksudo x.x
[04:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell FHX about cli
[04:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell FHX about gksudo
[04:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell FHX about kdesu
[04:49] <FHX> Thankee muchly. =)
[04:51] <SuperLag> With Gentoo, it's emerge -f <foo> and it will fetch all the tarballs for the packages I want to update...  I'm wondering if there's a way I can get all the .deb files for all of Kubuntu Breezy updates since its release...
[04:51] <nalioth> SuperLag: are you running kubuntu now?
[04:51] <SuperLag> nalioth: no, SUSE 10
[04:51] <LiGhTeNiN> penguinzdr: I mean I booted the CD up, followed the menu but I couldnt start Kubuntu
[04:52] <nalioth> SuperLag: are you going to run kubuntu?
[04:53] <SuperLag> nalioth: yep
[04:53] <penguinzdr> LiGhTeNiN: maybe a hardware problem... i dunno
[04:53] <SuperLag> nalioth: and I know I can update from here once I install Kubuntu.  That's obvious. :)
[04:54] <SuperLag> nalioth: but the connection here at the office is not all that hot.
[04:54] <nalioth> SuperLag: packages.ubuntu.com has all the packages
[04:54] <SuperLag> nalioth: my connection at home is 8x faster
[04:54] <LiGhTeNiN> penguinzdr: well, but how does it technically work? First you choose languages and stuff, then it checks hardware, then you configure network, then start shell?
[04:55] <SuperLag> nalioth: once I have them, does Ubuntu look for them to be in a certain directory when it updates?
[04:55] <nalioth> SuperLag: so let it update overnight
[04:55] <FHX> Say, it just occured to me, if I use wine, is there the possibility of me getting viruses??
[04:55] <penguinzdr> LiGhTeNiN:  i dont know many things about live cds, sorry
[04:55] <penguinzdr> ubotu wub is love
[04:55] <ubotu> penguinzdr: okay
[04:55] <FHX> o.o therefore I need an antivirus/trojan/spyware for wine?
[04:55] <penguinzdr> !wub
[04:55] <FHX> penguinzdr: =P
[04:55] <ubotu> methinks wub is love
[04:55] <FHX> Haha that's so cute
[04:55] <nalioth> SuperLag: you'll need to visit debian.org and read the new maintainers guide (click on developers) for how to create a local repository
[04:55] <LiGhTeNiN> ahh, ok, I just thought it would be fun to check out kubuntu with live-cd
[04:56] <nalioth> FHX: why are you using wine?
[04:56] <FHX> nalioth: School programs..necessary. *winces*
[04:56] <hyperactivecrond> ubotu: forget wub
[04:56] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: i forgot wub
[04:56] <penguinzdr> FHX: i am teaching ubotu slang
[04:56] <penguinzdr> hyperactivecrond: hey!
[04:56] <hyperactivecrond> penguinzdr: ubotu's database is saved on someone else's computer.
[04:56] <FHX> penguinzdr: Hee.  So if anything happens I just uninstall wine?
[04:58] <FHX> or rather should I say, what happens if there's a virus on wine?
[04:58] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: yes
[04:58] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: it won't kill your linux installation
[04:58] <FHX> hyperactivecrond: then when i reinstall the virus will be gone?
[04:58] <hussam> no, just 'rm  -.wine'
[04:58] <hyperactivecrond> that works
[04:58] <hussam> no, just 'rm  -~/.wine'
[04:58] <hyperactivecrond> rm -rf ~/.wine
[04:58] <SuperLag> pity you for having to run Wine
[04:59] <FHX> what does that do? rm -rf ~/.wine?
[04:59] <FHX> reinstall?
[04:59] <FHX> SuperLag: I agree. Pity. =/
[04:59] <hussam> FHX: what programs do you need wine for?
[04:59] <hyperactivecrond> ReMove Recursively Force everything in your home directory in the folder .wine
[04:59] <FHX> hussam: Loggerpro. x.x it's some school thing.
[04:59] <FHX> hyperactivecrond: Haha. Sounds like an effective window-cleaner. ;)
[04:59] <hyperactivecrond> basically delete everything in /home/fhx/.wine
[04:59] <hyperactivecrond> lol
[05:00] <hyperactivecrond> www.microsuck.com
[05:00] <hyperactivecrond> i liked the old name
[05:00] <hyperactivecrond> www.f***microsoft.com (w/o the *s)
[05:00] <FHX> Heh.
[05:00] <hyperactivecrond> *not to troll tho*
[05:00] <penguinzdr> hyperactivecrond: cool
[05:00] <hussam> hyperactivecrond: IEsucks.com
[05:00] <FHX> Ah one more thing, how do Iknow which folders I can delete?
[05:01] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: don't delete anything with a . in front of it except if your wine get fuXed up
[05:01] <FHX> once it is installed am I allowed to delete the .tar.gz and all the folders that were extracted?
[05:01] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: yes
[05:01] <FHX> Hm..okies. ^^
[05:01] <FHX> and everything will still work? even if i delete all the folders?
[05:01] <hyperactivecrond> which folders?
[05:01] <FHX> cause my home directory is getting rather cluttered. =P
[05:01] <FHX> easybreezy
[05:02] <FHX> earthquake
[05:02] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: pastebin.com ... pastebin your ls -l ~ output
[05:02] <FHX> background
[05:02] <FHX> ok
[05:02] <hyperactivecrond> ~ always refers to your home directory
[05:02] <hyperactivecrond> . refers to this dir, .. refers to the dir above. if a file has a . infront of it, like .wine, it's supposed to be hidden
[05:03] <FHX> just ls homedirectory in konsole?
[05:03] <hyperactivecrond> yes
[05:03] <hyperactivecrond> then pastebin and i'll tell you what to delete
[05:03] <FHX> um..i sorted them into folders hang on
[05:03] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: nvm just delete everything except for Desktop
[05:03] <FHX> XD okay
[05:03] <FHX> but all my stuff will still work?
[05:04] <hyperactivecrond> all your stuff?
[05:04] <FHX> like the weather theme for superkaramba
[05:04] <hyperactivecrond> don't delete that then
[05:04] <FHX> okay
[05:04] <FHX> but i can delete easy breezy?
[05:04] <hyperactivecrond> wtf?
[05:04] <FHX> i think i can.
[05:04] <FHX> okies.
[05:04] <hyperactivecrond> ok..?
[05:04] <hussam> what's easy breezy?
[05:04] <penguinzdr> FHX: can i see your desktop, just curious
[05:04] <FHX> i'll just not clear my trash. XD then if i find it doesn't work i'll put it back.
[05:05] <FHX> penguinzdr: I just deleted everything. o.o
[05:05] <penguinzdr> oh my
[05:05] <hyperactivecrond> hopefully you didn't delete the desktop folder...
[05:05] <FHX> now I just have some gallery stuff and my c and desktop
[05:05] <FHX> what did i do wrong?
[05:06] <FHX> Haha and I have knomicons for kopete. *is happy*
[05:06] <FHX> does Ubotu know what knomicons are?
[05:06] <hyperactivecrond> !knomicons
[05:06] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: No idea
[05:06] <penguinzdr> FHX: did you maked "sudo rm -rf /" ?
[05:06] <hyperactivecrond> penguinzdr: no
[05:06] <hyperactivecrond> thx god
[05:06] <FHX> penguinzdr: Um..no what is that?
[05:06] <FHX> do i run that in konsole?
[05:06] <penguinzdr> FHX: i recommend you to not do it
[05:06] <FHX> oh. okay
[05:06] <penguinzdr> NO NOT RUN IT
[05:07] <hussam> FHX: you won't kill the system when you delete stuff dfrom your home dir, just your personal settings and files
[05:07] <hyperactivecrond> NO!
[05:07] <FHX> ok ok i won't. *shuts konsole*
[05:07] <hyperactivecrond> EEEEKK
[05:07] <nalioth> penguinzdr: why would you even type that out?
[05:07] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: you can't by default delete anything that holds your settings b/c they are .files
[05:07] <hyperactivecrond> as in .wine, .kde, etc
[05:07] <hyperactivecrond> that's where all the settings are
[05:07] <FHX> Ah okay, thanks =)
[05:07] <hyperactivecrond> and you DONt want to delte that
[05:07] <penguinzdr> nalioth: i want to be sure that FHX didnt killed his linux
[05:08] <hyperactivecrond> penguinzdr: wouldn't his konversation die if he rm -rf'ed everything?
[05:08] <_draken_> can someone tell me how to get two network cards bridged ?
[05:08] <nalioth> penguinzdr: please don't put that in a public channel again. explain yourself in a PM
[05:08] <slow-motion> bbl
[05:08] <nalioth> hyperactivecrond: nope.
[05:08] <hyperactivecrond> thx nalioth
[05:08] <penguinzdr> nalioth: ok
[05:09] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: www.lowfatlinux.com
[05:09] <hyperactivecrond> ^^ linux tut
[05:09] <FHX> I don't understand. Why is that command dangerous? what does it do?
[05:09] <LiGhTeNiN> penguinzdr: btw, in the shell I tried typing 'startx', nothing happened, you think typing 'startkde' would do any difference?
[05:09] <nalioth> FHX: it deletes your whole system
[05:09] <hyperactivecrond> read "The Nine Deadly Keystrokes"
[05:09] <penguinzdr> LiGhTeNiN:  i dont know, i've never tried kubuntu live
[05:09] <FHX> nalioth: O.O yikes. then why would someone create that command??
[05:09] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: http://www.lowfatlinux.com/linux-meltdown.html
[05:09] <penguinzdr> i've only tried an ancient knoppix
[05:09] <LiGhTeNiN> oh
[05:09] <LiGhTeNiN> ok
[05:09] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: it's just a part of the standerd rm command
[05:10] <hyperactivecrond> but if you run it as root in the / dir, everything dies
[05:10] <FHX> hyperactivecrond: okie thanks. I definitely need to read over that stuff.
[05:10] <hyperactivecrond> np FHX , also check www.tldp.org
[05:11] <hyperactivecrond> FHX: wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <penguinzdr> argh i hate that fan for my graphics card!
[05:11] <hunika> I need a dc++ for my kubuntu
[05:11] <hunika> Valknut and Linux Dc++ are not working
[05:11] <hyperactivecrond> !dc++
[05:11] <hunika> anybody any opinion
[05:11] <hyperactivecrond> dc++?
[05:12] <hunika> the windows one is not working
[05:12] <hunika> i have wine
[05:12] <hunika> but when i want to download it crashes
[05:12] <hunika> so
[05:12] <hunika> ?
[05:12] <hyperactivecrond> hunika: google.
[05:12] <arox> hi !
[05:13] <hyperactivecrond> hey arox
[05:13] <hunika> I tried
[05:13] <hyperactivecrond> google.com/linux
[05:13] <hyperactivecrond> then search
[05:13] <nalioth> hunika: there are 2 dc clients in the repos
[05:13] <hunika> Valknut and Linux Dc++
[05:13] <hunika> are not working
[05:13] <ecoteq> I've just moved from using Fedora Core 4 and now use Kubuntu but need a way of playing mp3 files, can anyone help me out?
[05:13] <hyperactivecrond> nalioth: i don't know what dc is.. so that's why i told him to google
[05:13] <hyperactivecrond> !tell ecoteq about mp3
[05:13] <arox> how can i start an application every time i connect to my dsl-provider (ipcheck / dyndns)
[05:14] <bam_> is there a "send to" function on right mouse button click?
[05:14] <hyperactivecrond> Arox: look on dyndns.org for update clients
[05:14] <nalioth> hyperactivecrond: he asked about a dc++ client, there are 2 in the repos that i know of
[05:14] <ecoteq> thanks
[05:14] <hyperactivecrond> nalioth: idk what that is :)
[05:14] <hyperactivecrond> so i told him to google
[05:15] <nalioth> hyperactivecrond: it's a p2p client
[05:15] <hyperactivecrond> aah.
[05:15] <nalioth> !info dcgui
[05:15] <ubotu> dcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1352 kB
[05:15] <ecoteq> I was able to make fedora to play mp3 and I will with any Linux OS if I can..other than that everythign else will be totally open source but lame mp3 is free so why can't that be used...
[05:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ecoteq about mp3
[05:16] <hunika> raphink: Are you here?
[05:16] <tero> hallo
[05:19] <_draken> can someone help me, i cant get my root password
[05:19] <_draken> how do i set it
[05:19] <FHX> Can someone tell me the differences between Fedora and Kubuntu? I'm not really sure
[05:19] <FHX> as in which would be a better alternative?
[05:19] <jsubl2> maybe someday mp3 will be included thanks to fluendo -- http://pcburn.com/article.php?sid=1025
[05:21] <penguinzdr> !info kdevel
[05:21] <ecoteq> fedora and kubuntu are very similar I think
[05:21] <ecoteq> just one uses KDE as default
[05:21] <ecoteq> but I know nothing about the code
[05:22] <ecoteq> and Ubuntu uses Debian
[05:22] <penguinzdr> and, uses dpkg
[05:22] <penguinzdr> and dpkg is better than rpm
[05:22] <ecoteq> right
[05:23] <penguinzdr> i think that only SUSE and Mandriva can compete with Kubuntu
[05:23] <penguinzdr> oh, and Debian
[05:24] <_draken> can someone help me, i cant seem to do any adminisator things ?
[05:24] <penguinzdr> ubotu: tell _draken about rootsudo
[05:24] <_draken> i want to do them in the gui
[05:24] <_draken> not command line
[05:24] <penguinzdr> ubotu: tell _draken about kdesu
[05:25] <FHX> I'm just curious, whenever I log in, what does it say for me in brackets?
[05:28] <penguinzdr> draken: are you cloning?
[05:29] <penguinzdr> bye people
[05:29] <FHX> This is hilarious, kubuntu spellchecks my kopete messages. XD
[05:29] <penguinzdr> cya
[05:30] <penguinzdr> oh yeah draken_, that's cloning
[05:32] <draken_> pen
[05:38] <hunika> how can i convert an rpm package to deb using alien
[05:38] <hunika> so an example please
[05:40] <hunika> help me please
[05:41] <bam_> err...uhhh
[05:41] <bam_> alien /path/to/package.deb
[05:42] <bam_> commandline
[05:42] <hunika> ccan you give me a whole example
[05:42] <bam_> errr...rather terminal
[05:42] <hunika> I am new in Linux :D
[05:42] <bam_> just did for example
[05:42] <nalioth> hunika: what pkg is it?
[05:42] <bam_> rpm package in your home
[05:43] <bam_> alien /home/[username] /thepackagename.rpm
[05:44] <nalioth> hunika: what is the name of the pkg? what program/
[05:44] <hunika> ok
[05:44] <bam_> are you sure its not in the repositories?
[05:44] <apinske> hi @ all
[05:45] <hunika> dctc-0.85.5-1mp.i386.rpm
[05:45] <apinske> i got a problem with the kio-plugins in konqueror ...
[05:45] <apinske> anyone can help me?
[05:45] <hunika> nalioth: dctc-0.85.5-1mp.i386.rpm
[05:46] <ex`> Wasn't it alien -d <package rpm> ?
[05:46] <ex`> *looks up what the -d option did*
[05:46] <nalioth> dctc is what?
[05:47] <hunika> dc++ client
[05:47] <nalioth> hunika: the two clients in the repos didnt work for you?
[05:47] <hunika> no they did not work for me
[05:48] <hunika> believe me
[05:48] <apinske> any1 got ma prob?
[05:48] <nalioth> hunika: it's much better to compile your  own software rather than use foreign packages
[05:49] <Spudchat> hi everyone...im using webalizer to analyze logs from my appache server but everytime its run its says warning: skipping oversized log record
[05:49] <hunika> nalioth: but i can not use those two in the repos
[05:49] <hunika> they do not work
[05:49] <Spudchat> any ideas on how to fix it or an alternative analyzation program?
[05:49] <nalioth> they don't?
[05:49] <hunika> nalioth: they don't
[05:50] <apinske> hey!  any1 familiar with konqueror?
[05:50] <nalioth> apinske: what is that? :P
[05:50] <Spudchat> apinske: a little..whats the prob?
[05:51] <apinske> prob is about devices... when i e.g. plug in a usbsick it is mounted in /media/sda1/ but
[05:51] <apinske> i cant access it from media:/
[05:51] <apinske> there is a icon in media:/
[05:51] <apinske> a click on it says device is already mounted on /media/sda1/
[05:52] <apinske> kubuntu 5.10 kde 3.5
[05:52] <nalioth> apinske: that is not a konqueror problem.
[05:52] <apinske> oh sry i guessed
[05:52] <apinske> its bout kio-plugins
[05:53] <SuperLag> How big is the update to KDE 3.5?
[05:53] <apinske> though theres a sloution?
[05:53] <hunika> nalioth: just please give me an example using alien
[05:53] <SuperLag> Spudchat: logrotate, maybe?
[05:54] <Spudchat> hmm allright ill check into that
[05:55] <bam_> I think we had the same problem
[05:55] <apinske> will any1 help e pls?
[05:55] <nalioth> hunika: alien -i /path/to/file
[05:55] <nalioth> hunika: if you machine breaks.. .. ..
[05:55] <hunika> nalioth: thanks
[05:55] <bam_> apinske, you there
[05:55] <apinske> yep! im here
[05:55] <bam_> i think we had the same problem
[05:55] <apinske> oh it was to me sry
[05:56] <apinske> and how did you solve it?
[05:56] <bam_> 2 windows open up correct?
[05:56] <apinske> on is media:/ and another one asks me what io wnna do
[05:56] <bam_> ok
[05:56] <bam_> goto system settings
[05:56] <apinske> yep
[05:57] <bam_> storage media
[05:57] <apinske> hm
[05:57] <DjDarkman> hy ,i need an easy to use php script ,to manage a mysql database
[05:57] <apinske> and now
[05:58] <bam_> medium types select mounted removable medium
[05:58] <bam_> hilight do nothing
[05:58] <apinske> toggle as auto?
[05:58] <bam_> press button toggle as auto action
[05:58] <bam_> yup
[05:59] <apinske> shall i test pluggin in?
[05:59] <bam_> sure
[05:59] <apinske> ohohoh
[05:59] <bam_> well?
[05:59] <apinske> it doesnt mount it at all... moment pls
[06:00] <apinske> must it be in mtab ot fstab?
[06:00] <hunika> do you know a kind of google earth for Linux??????????
[06:00] <bam_> I dont thinkso
[06:00] <arox> i have 2 ext3fs partitions, one of them is /. i want to add the space of the non-/ partition to the / partition. how?
[06:00] <bam_> goto term and type mount
[06:00] <hunika> do you know a kind of google earth for Linux??????????
[06:01] <bam_> what do you see
[06:01] <hunika> or can I run google earth on Linux?
[06:01] <arox> bam_: many partitions =P
[06:02] <bam_> hold on arox, helping apinske right now
[06:02] <DjDarkman> hy ,i need an easy to use php script ,to manage a mysql database
[06:03] <bam_> arox, you have to move the partition(aka resize), not a quick thing todo, although I hear gparted can do this without losing data
[06:07] <apinske> bam???
[06:07] <apinske> the stick is mounted as /media/sda1/
[06:07] <apinske> when i go to media:/ there is a removable device but it says it is unmounted
[06:07] <apinske> when i click to mount it it says it is already mounted on /media/sda1
[06:07] <apinske> i dont get that stuff
[06:08] <bam_> click on open in new window
[06:09] <bam_> are you running the applet on your kde-panel
[06:10] <arox> but how can i resize a partition that is mounted?? "/" is always mounted while linux is running!
[06:10] <nalioth> arox: you dont. use a liveCD
[06:10] <arox> no
[06:10] <arox> installed it
[06:11] <AoP> No
[06:11] <AoP> He's saying
[06:11] <AoP> Use a live CD to resize partitions..
[06:11] <arox> aah ok now i see!
[06:11] <bam_> bingo!
[06:11] <arox> ah ok thx bye!
[06:11] <apinske> bam, now?
[06:12] <bam_> are you using the media applet
[06:12] <apinske> media:/  ?
[06:12] <bam_> ahhh
[06:12] <apinske> media:/sda1 says devices is already mounted to /media/sda1
[06:12] <bam_> right mouse click on a panel
[06:13] <bam_> add applet to panel
[06:13] <apinske> on what?
[06:13] <apinske> where?
[06:13] <bam_> panel, where your pager is and "start" button
[06:13] <apinske> ok
[06:13] <apinske> what to add?
[06:13] <bam_> applet
[06:13] <bam_> add applet to panel
[06:14] <apinske> im running german system i cant find it
[06:14] <bam_> then select the media applet
[06:14] <bam_> s/b the same
[06:14] <apinske> i have "miniprogramme"
[06:14] <bam_> hmmm thats not it
[06:14] <bam_> lemme think
[06:15] <apinske> what should happen ifi click this?
[06:15] <bam_> adds an applet
[06:15] <AoP> You head will implode
[06:15] <bam_> that may be it
[06:15] <bam_> try it
[06:15] <bam_> does it pop up a window
[06:15] <apinske> jep
[06:15] <bam_> cool
[06:16] <apinske> what shall i chose?
[06:16] <bam_> look for an applet called media applet
[06:16] <abionnnn> is it just me or does the kubuntu 5.0 CD come without gcc >_<
[06:16] <apinske> "storage media"
[06:16] <bam_> bingo
[06:16] <bam_> select it and click add to menu
[06:16] <apinske> jep
[06:17] <apinske> but these are the same icons i goz on my dekstop
[06:17] <bam_> dont worry bout that yet
[06:17] <apinske> ok
[06:17] <bam_> plug in your media
[06:17] <apinske> ok
[06:17] <apinske> there is a symbol now
[06:18] <bam_> did a window pop up?
[06:18] <apinske> removable media unmounted
[06:18] <apinske> no
[06:18] <bam_> hmmm
[06:18] <bam_> click on the applet
[06:18] <apinske> a menu pops up
[06:18] <bam_> what does it say?
[06:19] <apinske> open in new windows mount open with
[06:19] <bam_> try open in new window
[06:20] <apinske> mtab says xdev/sda1 is mounted to media/sda
[06:20] <apinske> or sth like that
[06:20] <apinske> freely translated
[06:20] <bam_> hmmm...
[06:21] <bam_> try safely remove
[06:21] <apinske> hm
[06:21] <apinske> now its away
[06:21] <bam_> ok, re-plugin
[06:21] <bam_> tell me what its doing
[06:22] <apinske> putting the symbol there again
[06:22] <apinske> no windows
[06:22] <bam_> ok, good
[06:22] <bam_> click on the applet
[06:22] <apinske> open in new windows tells menothiong
[06:22] <apinske> shows empty folder
[06:22] <bam_> is the media empty?
[06:22] <apinske> no
[06:23] <bam_> hmmmm
[06:23] <bam_> click on the applet does it say safely remove or mount?
[06:23] <apinske> mount says the saim as before
[06:23] <apinske> both
[06:23] <CyberMad> how do i know where complete installation file that already copied to the system by apt-get install freeradius ? *besides command: whereis freeradius*
[06:23] <bam_> damn, thats all I know
[06:23] <apinske> its a pity
[06:23] <apinske> no1 can help me with that...
[06:24] <apinske> thy although
[06:24] <apinske> thx
[06:24] <nalioth> CyberMad: in  konsole, type "dpkg -L freeradius"
[06:24] <bam_> I know there is a usb subsystem that handle all that stuff but I dnt have alot of experience with it
[06:24] <apinske> ok
[06:24] <apinske> i cann access the usbstick
[06:24] <CyberMad> thanks
[06:24] <apinske> thats not theprob
[06:24] <bam_> have you searched the forums?
[06:24] <apinske> jep
[06:25] <bam_> posted too?
[06:25] <apinske> but it apears in media:/ and does not work
[06:25] <apinske> no
[06:25] <bam_> post it the forums are really friendly
[06:25] <apinske> ok
[06:25] <apinske> ill do so
[06:25] <FHX> HAHA.
[06:25] <FHX> I was talking to this guy on Kopete, and i said: What's it called..the one that affects your applications..ram?
[06:25] <FHX> him>>Sheep!
[06:26] <FHX> me: O.O No
[06:26] <FHX> him>>OH. RAM
[06:26] <apinske> btw itsthe same prob with cd-drive
[06:26] <FHX> XD okay. *shuts up*
[06:26] <nalioth> FHX: remember #kubuntu-offtopic exists
[06:27] <FHX> Okies. Apologies.
[06:27] <apinske> so i guessit is nothing to dowith usbstuff
[06:27] <apinske> i dont understand those kio-plugins
[06:27] <apinske> duno how they work
[06:29] <apinske> if theres anyone with a solution
[06:29] <apinske> contact me icq264812450
[06:29] <apinske> thx
[06:29] <apinske> bye
[06:41] <endo602> morning
[06:41] <endo602> if i want to dual boot with kubuntu and XP
[06:41] <endo602> and i want to access something from my XP partition while using linux
[06:42] <endo602> what protocol will allow me to do that
[06:43] <nalioth> ext2fs
[06:43] <nalioth> no wait, that's from windows to linux
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell endo602 about ntfs
[06:48] <endo602> so i can use ext2fs in windows to get from linux partition and ntfs for linux from windows?
[06:49] <endo602> ok sounds cool
[06:49] <endo602> im redoing my system tonight
[06:49] <endo602> I got some new hdds
[06:49] <nalioth> endo602: read the info ubotu sent you
[06:49] <endo602> so i decided to got with dual
[06:49] <endo602> i did
[06:49] <endo602> i know how to mount partitions
[06:49] <endo602> also in samba
[06:50] <endo602> right?
[06:57] <_nano_> !ubdatedb
[06:57] <ubotu> _nano_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:58] <nalioth> _nano_: ?
[06:59] <_nano_> nalioth: whenever i bootup my laptop, this updatedb process runs and makes the computer really slow
[06:59] <_nano_> nalioth: is that process really essential? can i turn it off?
[07:00] <nalioth> _nano_: it is very important. and it is also why i never turn my computers off
[07:00] <_nano_> nalioth: but for laptops...it's not possible to keep them runnin always
[07:00] <nalioth> updatedb runs every morning between 2 and 4 am, i suggest you enable your screen to power down and leave your lappy running
[07:01] <nalioth> my ibook hasnt been turned off in weeks, lemme get you an uptime from it
[07:01] <_nano_> nalioth: ok
[07:01] <aabot> @ubuntu:~$ uptime
[07:01] <aabot>  11:54:21 up 35 days, 18:27,  2 users,  load average: 0.10, 0.10, 0.07
[07:02] <nalioth> all my boxen turn off their displays after a few minutes
[07:02] <_nano_> nalioth: wow :P
[07:02] <AoP> How many you have nalioth  o.o
[07:02] <nalioth> AoP: obviously more than 1
[07:02] <AoP> No kidding :P
[07:02] <AoP> Maybe an exact number =)
[07:02] <_nano_> nalioth: but that means you use your laptops more like a desktop? you don't carry them along?
[07:03] <nalioth> _nano_: i have more than one laptop
[07:03] <_nano_> nalioth: aah ok
[07:03] <nalioth> AoP: are you keeping track? :0
[07:03] <AoP> Ya
[07:04] <AoP> I need to know how many I need to look for when I type ./breakintonaliothshousesoicanstealallhisstuff/owned
[07:04] <_nano_> lol
[07:04] <nalioth> AoP: if only you knew.. .. ..
[07:06] <AoP> My computer isnt useing the swap memory =\
[07:06] <_dick> I did an upgrade in update manager to 3.5. Everything seems to work except kmail will not open. Error message is "Cannot load part for Mail. libkleopatra.so.1 cannot open shared object file. No such file or directory. How to get file and install.
[07:07] <nalioth> _dick: in  konsole, type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kmail"
[07:07] <AoP> nalioth: what will my ram % have to be for my swap memory to kick in?
[07:08] <nalioth> AoP: ummm %100?
[07:08] <AoP> oh
[07:08] <_dick> nalioth Thank you\
[07:08] <AoP> So it's gotta be totally maxed out
[07:08] <AoP> So its not broken ^.^ thats good :P
[07:08] <nalioth> AoP: i've got 2.5gb of ram on this machine and have never gone into swap
[07:08] <AoP> I've got like 960mb
[07:08] <AoP> Gimme ram plsh =\
[07:09] <AoP> Im so clsoe only 35,000 kb of memory left =o
[07:10] <endo602> is it recommended if i run a dual OS to partition pretty much everything for windows
[07:10] <endo602> then mount ntfs for linux?
[07:11] <nalioth> endo602: no 1. letting windows write to your linux partition is like juggling a hand grenade with a loose pin
[07:11] <AoP> Ooo fun
[07:11] <endo602> i understand
[07:11] <nalioth> endo602: better to give windows a nice 5gb partition for itself and give linux a nice 7gb partition, and then make a fat32 partition to share
[07:12] <endo602> you think
[07:12] <endo602> fat32 cant hold large files
[07:13] <DaSkreech> huh?
[07:13] <endo602> like over 4gb
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Right
[07:13] <DaSkreech> There is a way to get Windows to see etx2 partions
[07:13] <endo602> so why would i make a fat32 share?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Gimmie a second
[07:13] <endo602> ok
[07:13] <endo602> what would be better
[07:14] <endo602> linux seeing ntfs or windows dealing with etx2?
[07:14] <nalioth> endo602: correct
[07:14] <nalioth> endo602: i havent used windows (or owned a windows system) since 2000
[07:14] <DaSkreech> I would wager getting Windows to see ext2

[07:14] <endo602> hehe
[07:14] <endo602> im not that proficient in linux yet
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Since It is documented down to the Byte while NTFS is a blind shot
[07:15] <bhna> DaSkreech: http://www.quintessenz.org/cgi-bin/index?funktion=about
[07:15] <nalioth> endo602: then give windows 5gb, and linux 5gb, and make the rest a seperate ext3 partition
[07:15] <nalioth> endo602: that way you dont run the risk of windows takin a dump with your linux files
[07:15] <bhna> DaSkreech: http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[07:15] <endo602> ok
[07:15] <endo602> that sounds good
[07:15] <DaSkreech> bhna: Thats it :)
[07:16] <endo602> then i use ext2 to access that partition in windows?
[07:16] <nalioth> endo602: search sourceforge.net for 'ext2fs'
[07:16] <kkathman> mornin nalioth :)
[07:16] <nalioth> endo602: you shouldn't have to run windows. everything you need is available in linux
[07:17] <nalioth> kkathman: howdy, mind the anti-windows invective
[07:17] <endo602> yeah except my wife will kill me
[07:17] <kkathman> well I dont agree 100% but for most average folks I'd say that mostly true
[07:17] <endo602> thanks for your input
[07:17] <endo602> i gotta run
[07:17] <kkathman> as long as you stay out of the multimedia arena
[07:17] <endo602> all the best
[07:18] <endo602> i appreciate it
[07:18] <DaSkreech> kkathman: And games
[07:18] <DaSkreech> endo602: Yall come back you hear?
[07:18] <kkathman> perhaps games also, tho Im not a gamer...except on game stations
[07:18] <bhna> DaSkreech: sorry wrong link http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[07:19] <kkathman> the GIMP masquerades as a multimedia giant, and even for most people it works ok to do very minor things, but for audio/sound/video/graphics, windows and Mac are far superior
[07:19] <DaSkreech> I do't know about far
[07:19] <kkathman> but I run my business on Linux, except for those things
[07:20] <gerst> hi
[07:21] <kkathman> nalioth: I am not a pro-Windows advocate..I just believe in using the right tool for the right job :)
[07:21] <gerst> anyone knows how can I connect to irc server with bitchx through a proxy server?
[07:21] <kkathman> gerst: I dunno about the bitchx, but most IRC clients will allow a proxy server
[07:22] <gerst> i`ve tried konversation.. there is no such option there either
[07:22] <gerst> there is in xchat I know
[07:22] <gerst> but I dont really like xchat
[07:23] <nalioth> gerst: you'll need to export your proxy info in your .bashrc
[07:23] <gerst> thx
[07:23] <gerst> let see
[07:24] <gerst> just export proxy:port ?
[07:24] <gerst> no...
[07:25] <kkathman> maybe Im thinking of XChat
[07:26] <kkathman> gerst: Sorry I was thinking of what I use...KVirc :)
[07:26] <gerst> aha.. no problemo :)
[07:27] <nalioth> gerst: ask uncle google "export proxy .bashrc"
[07:28] <gerst> export http_proxy=http://proxy ortnum/
[07:28] <gerst> :)
[07:28] <slow-motion> re
[07:31] <jeremywhiting> hi all, I've just switched from ubuntu gnome to kubuntu and am looking for chinese input application
[07:33] <jeremywhiting> I used scim in gnome, but it doesn't work in Konsole, etc
[07:33] <jeremywhiting> still works in gnome-terminal however...
[07:36] <ccc_> anyone else having problems with the kweather panel applet? the configuration windows is all blank here.
[07:46] <leafw> what program will let me see a divx in kubuntu ?
[07:47] <nalioth> leafw: w32codecs, most likely
[07:47] <leafw> in kubuntu-ppc ?
[07:47] <kkathman> !w32codecs
[07:47] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:47] <leafw> sounds x86 binaries to me
[07:47] <leafw> but thants.
[07:48] <nalioth> leafw: ah, you need to ask with more info.
[07:48] <leafw> sorry :)
[07:48] <nalioth> leafw: if you asked that at first, i could have told you you were out of luck
[07:49] <leafw> can't believe there's no divx player that can't be compiled from scratch.
[07:50] <nalioth> leafw: there are, but they are mighty old
[07:50] <nalioth> the opendivx boys got lazy and folded up
[07:50] <leafw> bad news
[07:51] <crimsun> err, what about mplayer* w/ libxvidcore4 in Dapper?
[07:51] <leafw> DApper is after breezy?
[07:52] <crimsun> Dapper's the current development version
[07:52] <leafw> hum
[07:52] <leafw> I'll wait till it's release stage then.
[07:52] <leafw> but god to know.
[07:52] <crimsun> try a Dapper Flight 2 live cd
[07:52] <leafw> that's a good idea
[07:53] <pussfeller> what kinda collation should I use for a mysql db...
[07:53] <pussfeller> theres like a gazillion choices in phpmyadmin
[07:54] <pussfeller> it defaults to swedish, but that dont sound right
[07:56] <leafw> pussfeller: it is. The encoding kindda works for all western world languages.
[07:56] <apachelogger> fd
[07:56] <pussfeller> ok leafw thanks, i wasnt sure
[08:03] <_nano_> how do i change the window manager of kde?
[08:04] <nalioth> _nano_: what do you want it to be?
[08:05] <_nano_> nalioth: something really light weight
[08:05] <nalioth> _nano_: what are you calling "window manager"
[08:05] <crimsun> kwin is pretty light
[08:07] <simone> hi everybody!
[08:07] <simone> I need some help in mounting an external hard drive with 2 partitions... anybody listening?
[08:08] <_nano_> crimsun: is there a way to change that, just to play around and see
[08:08] <nalioth> simone: don't ask to ask
[08:09] <crimsun> _nano_: yes, but I don't know the procedure offhand
[08:09] <simone> nalioth: i don't get it... can you explain? (not english mother tongue :-)
[08:09] <nalioth> simone: just ask your question.
[08:09] <simone> ah ok :-)
[08:10] <simone> I have an external drive with one ext3 and one fat32, both primary
[08:10] <bam_> anyone know how to enable or add a right mouse button click(send to) functionality to kde desktop?
[08:10] <simone> but i can't mount them in kubuntu... i don't exactly know how to mount them
[08:10] <simone> in /etc/stab
[08:11] <nalioth> simone: what language do you speak?
[08:11] <simone> italian
[08:11] <nalioth> simone: try #kubuntu-it or #ubuntu-it
[08:11] <mac__> is it possible to configure the font used by "adept", the package manager?  It doesn't seem to respect System Settings->Appearance->Fonts settings...
[08:11] <simone> nalioth... did you understand my question ?
[08:12] <pussfeller> doesnt kubuntu auto mount them when you stick it in the usb thing?
[08:12] <nalioth> !it
[08:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:12] <pussfeller> maybe it only does taht for the one partition drives
[08:12] <simone> ubotu, I'm fine speaking in english
[08:12] <ubotu> simone: I haven't a clue
[08:12] <simone> they don't automount at start
[08:12] <simone> I suppose I have to add something in /etc/fstab
[08:12] <nalioth> simone: i don't know much about this.
[08:13] <bam_> then you need to edit /etc/fstab
[08:13] <pussfeller> do they show up on yer desktop?
[08:13] <simone> bam_ : can you explain me how to edit it well ?
[08:13] <pussfeller> ussualy it makes an icon and you need to right click and select mount
[08:13] <simone> puss: yes, they show, unmounted
[08:14] <simone> when I try to mount them , they don't...
[08:15] <pussfeller> ah
[08:15] <bam_> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/ch-ctsystem.en.html <--better off reading this...
[08:15] <pussfeller> yeah but these are usb drives
[08:15] <simone> exactly puss... thanx anyway bam_ :-)
[08:15] <pussfeller> and the dev point will be some complicated long ass name
[08:16] <simone> yep
[08:16] <pussfeller> and change too
[08:16] <pussfeller> i would search the wiki and the forum, you cant be ther first person this is a need fo
[08:16] <simone> there was a tool to automatically detect usb drives...
[08:16] <pussfeller> for
[08:16] <simone> good point pussfeller
[08:16] <pussfeller> or keep asking here, someone will know
[08:17] <simone> thanx everybody, i'll try to look at ubuntuforums
[08:17] <bam_> oh usb drive, thats handled by the usb subsystem, its complex, and I have had time to read it yet
[08:18] <bam_> btw, to edit fstb you can type kdesu kedit /etc/fstab
[08:18] <bam_> just an fyi
[08:18] <hyperactivecrond> does dcgui support gnutella?
[08:19] <nalioth> hyperactivecrond: it does not.
[08:26] <thebest> ciao a tutti
[08:26] <nalioth> howdy
[08:26] <thebest> ho appena installato kubuntu