[17:35] <Hasone> thefish: also, all the gui apps work except the window browser.
[17:35] <manifest_> hasone: speaking of the hardwaretest?
[17:35] <soundray> coggz: you need to say what the problem is
[17:35] <thefish> Hasone, pastebin the results of ifconfig please
[17:35] <wetaluv> hello everyone
[17:35] <thefish> Hasone, ah ok, so you have gnome?
[17:35] <navetz> thefish: yes, then I will call my isp and have them redirect my domain name to that IP
[17:35] <atlef> wetaluv: hello
[17:35] <matthias_> fde:  well that is okey if you like that,
[17:36] <Hasone> thefish: could you give me a link to the pastebot? and yes, using gnome.
[17:36] <fde> matthias_: They can look all they want... I even donate limited bandwidth on my wireless to passers by  :)
[17:36] <atlef> !ask | wetaluv:
[17:36] <thefish> navetz, is the server in your network or colo somewhere else?
[17:36] <coggz> ok, i want to set up a backup on a pc, and have 2 laptos sync all documents with the server, and so there will be identical documents on Laptop 1+2, and a backup on PC
[17:36] <shit_burger> sigh, sorry to ask such a question, but here goes - i just burned hardy to cd, now what do i do with it?
[17:36] <poopuser> how do i make keyboard layout in bash back to normal ; ( alt + 2 dosn't woark.help
[17:36] <matthias_> fde:  all right, thanks anyway ...
[17:36] <thefish> Hasone, ok what is window browser? :/
[17:36] <Secifelam> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[17:36] <fde> matthias_: Throttled to around 50kb/s though an on a different subnet...
[17:36] <navetz> thefish: the server is the machine that you just helped me get internet working on :)
[17:36] <Hasone> thefish: metacity, I think. I know it's installed.
[17:36] <soundray> shit_burger: could you please change your nick
[17:37] <atlef> shit_burger: boot with it in the cd/dvd rom player
[17:37] <goingbacktowindo> can someone PLEASE help me with my wifi problem? The driver shows up and lists in about everything there is for it to list in, but it won't work.
[17:37] <matthias_> anyone have got an lexmark printer to work in hardy i have an all-in-one  ...
[17:37] <Hasone> thefish: if that's it
[17:37] <shit_burger> atlef, i did, nothing interesting happened
[17:37] <atlef> soundray: haha
[17:37] <Hasone> thefish: I forget what it's called, but it's the defualt for ubuntu 7.
[17:37] <coggz> !lexmark
[17:37] <soundray> coggz: 'man rsync' will explain all the options. There are also rsync tutorials on the web
[17:37] <Myrtti> shit_burger: change your nick.
[17:37] <wetaluv> i am a new biee here
[17:37] <atlef> shit_burger: then you burned it as a data cd not as an cd image
[17:37] <coggz> ok, i just wondered if anyone had experience... soundray
[17:37] <thefish> navetz, hehe ok - from that machine (the server) can you ping the other machine you are trying to connect from?
[17:37] <matthias_> fde:  like to know more about that, i do not uderstand exactly what you mean ...., sorry
[17:37] <Pici> Preferably to something more family friendly
[17:38] <thefish> Hasone, i still dont understand, do you mean window manager?
[17:38] <shit_burger> actually i'm from a town call shit in austria, so i am a shit burger
[17:38] <Pici> !language | shit_burger
[17:38] <soundray> coggz: you reading a tutorial will be easier than me imparting my experience on you
[17:38] <Hasone> thefish: I'm not sure what program you're asking me for. is there a command I can put in the terminal that will give you the answer?
[17:38] <goingbacktowindo> that's the problem here, too many people worried about someone's nick rather than helping.....
[17:38] <Myrtti> shit_burger: this is the last time I'm asking before removing you from the channel
[17:38] <manifest_> MY NAME IS FREDFREDBURGER
[17:38] <coggz> soundray: could you suggest one?
[17:38] <gnuskool> shit_burger: restart yo computer with the cd in the tray, if it dosent boot, you need to burn the cd with an iso capable burner
[17:38] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[17:39] <goingbacktowindo> I've been here all day asking for help and this guy comes in with an inappropriate nick and the whole channel is in an uproar lol
[17:39] <mad_max02> how do I change folder permission with all files and folders included ????
[17:39] <thefish> Hasone, hehe im not sure what you are asking for? Can you tell me what you expect to happen when you do something, and what is actually happening that is different?
[17:39] <nice_burger> how's that
[17:39] <atlef> shit_burger: or did you use windows for burning and unpack it
[17:39] <navetz> thefish: uh no, the one I am trying to connect from is connected wirelessly so I don't have the actually ip address to connect to.
[17:39] <Myrtti> goingbacktowindo: we've got rules.
[17:39] <gnuskool> shit_burger: sorry that should be a .iso capable burning programme
[17:39] <goingbacktowindo> fecal_burger would have been better
[17:39] <Myrtti> nice_burger: thank you
[17:39] <poopuser> damn ppl i get '²' when pressing alt + 2.jesus i am not asking how to hide ASCII child porn in kernel lines.h e l p
[17:39] <atlef> * nice_burger:
[17:39] <Myrtti> !language poopuser
[17:39] <soundray> goingbacktowindo: this is a channel that some people want to or need to use professionally. Unprofessional behaviour sabotages that kind of use.
[17:39] <fde> goingbacktowindo: I'm sure no one is helping because no one knows the answer... care to restate it though?
[17:39] <Myrtti> !language | poopuser
[17:40] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  What is Your problem?
[17:40] <Hasone> thefish: Alirght. none of my icons are showing up on my desktop. when I go to "locations: home folder" from the panel on the bottom of my screen, a window opens, then immediately closes.
[17:40] <thefish> navetz, lets make up names for the machines: can we say laptop is the wireless, and server is the server we just got internet on?
[17:40] <navetz> thefish: yup, that is the exact situation :)
[17:40] <goingbacktowindo> fde, drivetrax I cannot get my wifi to work. It's showing in device manager and iwlist, but it won't turn on.
[17:40] <nice_burger> atlef, hmm, i used the recommended iso burner from ubuntu.com for a windows xp
[17:40] <drivetrax> wifi, ahhhh
[17:40] <thefish> Hasone, ok cool - can you try in a terminal "sudo dpkg--reconfigure -a"
[17:40] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  what wifi drivers
[17:40] <fde> goingbacktowindo: What does lspci | grep -i wireless say about the device?
[17:40] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, orinoco_usb
[17:41] <thefish> navetz, ok from laptop, can you ping the default gateway?
[17:41] <Hasone> thefish: all one word like that?
[17:41] <soundray> thefish: one - too many
[17:41] <poopuser> sudo help me
[17:41] <thefish> :)
[17:41] <mysterycool> Hello.
[17:41] <atlef> nice_burger: so you burned it as an image? and not as an data cd?
[17:41] <goingbacktowindo> fde, it does nothing but bring me to another prompt :/
[17:41] <mysterycool> Why do companies like EA not design games for linux?
[17:41] <fde> thefish: either dpkg-reconfigure -a or dpkg --reconfigure -a
[17:41] <gnuskool> nice_burger: is there 1 .iso file on the cd or is there lots of file, you should have lots of files on it
[17:41] <atlef> mysterycool: no money
[17:41] <mysterycool> atlef: not really
[17:42] <mysterycool> atlef: they could still sell their products
[17:42] <unimatrix9> hi there you  all
[17:42] <blipblip> hello
[17:42] <fde> goingbacktowindo: hah... just lspci then, usually Wireless NIC's are called something pertaining to wireless  :)
[17:42] <unimatrix9> how is it going?
[17:42] <thefish> Hasone, please read from fde and soundray, i added one too many -'s in there :)
[17:42] <unimatrix9> hello blipblip
[17:42] <mysterycool> atleft: like cedega. it's not free but it's for linux =]
[17:42] <Deepthought> would the server in my country have a different collection as the main server, or are all repos the same ?  (xcept for language ..?..   Or is everything everywhere ?)
[17:42] <navetz> thefish: if you mean default gateway of the server, then yes.
[17:42] <atlef> mysterycool: we do not pay for anything:-)
[17:42] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200
[17:42] <nice_burger> follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto but it does seem to be full of dirs and files, not a single iso
[17:42] <goingbacktowindo> fde, lsusb shows this Bus 001 Device 003: ID 049f:0033 Compaq Computer Corp. 802.11b Adapter [orinoco]
[17:42] <soundray> thefish: did you mean 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' or 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure somepackage'? (Hasone)
[17:42] <thefish> navetz, ok and can you ping server from laptop?
[17:42] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, exactly, that's the one wiki page I followed and it didnt work :(
[17:42] <Deepthought> Server for programs I mean, of course; you know, apt
[17:42] <Hasone> so sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a?
[17:42] <mysterycool> atlef: yes but like i said, there are products for linux where u need to pay like cedega.
[17:43] <Oggu> I have no sound in VLC after Hardy. What to do?
[17:43] <atlef> nice_burger: what program did you use?
[17:43] <Cointoss> how do i invert a patternmatch, like if [ not m/\// ]; then...  ?
[17:43] <nice_burger> atlef, infra recorder
[17:43] <soundray> Hasone: no
[17:43] <atlef> mysterycool: cedega is wine
[17:43] <fde> goingbacktowindo: It would have to be a USB wireless heh... brb though
[17:43] <thefish> soundray, Hasone its dpkg-reconfigure -a
[17:43] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, I followed the guide verbatim and nothing error'd out and I had no problems. It just simply doesn't work unlike what the guide says
[17:43] <mysterycool> atlef:no
[17:43] <asizemore> hey, how do I install bitlbee on 6.06?
[17:43] <atlef> yes
[17:43] <mysterycool> atlef: cedega works with wine
[17:43] <soundray> thefish, Hasone: no, it isn't
[17:43] <unimatrix9> should hardy show updates? i dont see any ?
[17:43] <khamael> mysterycool: there was a company, loki, that tried to make linux ports of games. problem was they used time doing it, and the games was out-dated when they finally was released for linux
[17:43] <mysterycool> and cedega costs $70 =]
[17:43] <gnuskool> mysterycool: i think they just havent come up with a business model for the linux environment, they day they figure that out, they'll come
[17:43] <navetz> thefish: yes I can ping the server from the laptop.
[17:43] <atlef> mysterycool: haha
[17:43] <asizemore> apt-get install bitlbee and aptitude bitlbee don't work
[17:43] <unimatrix9> cedega or crossover games both cost money
[17:44] <unimatrix9> but they work ok
[17:44] <unimatrix9> for some games
[17:44] <kane77> mysterycool, it is money issue.. linux has rouhly 2% share and not everyone will buy a game.. that means it's not worth the money to develop games for linux..
[17:44] <thefish> navetz, ok and when you use a web browser on laptop, and put in server's ip, you get nothing?
[17:44] <Hasone> alirght, I've typed that in.
[17:44] <danbhfive> will the hardy cds get updated with whatever bug fixes are released?
[17:44] <khamael> mysterycool: people would rather use win games now, than linux games later
[17:44] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  - ah.. is your wifi on your motherboard?
[17:44] <atlef> nice_burger: and you chose to burn as image?
[17:44] <navetz> thefish: yea it doesn't connect
[17:44] <Pici> danbhfive: When 8.04.1 is released, yes.
[17:44] <HSorgYves> still fighting with an error 25 from grub while booting a freshly installed system after the kernel line has been posted in stage 2, anyone an idea?
[17:44] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, to be more specific, the green light on the wifi modem doesn't light up. The wifi modem is attached via USB connection to the top of my lid.
[17:44] <nice_burger> atlef, yep
[17:44] <unimatrix9> great info on wine and games with it on linux is on http://frankscorner.org/
[17:44] <atlef> nice_burger: then you need to setup your BIOS to boot from cd
[17:44] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  enable the USB port then
[17:45] <Oggu> I have no sound in VLC after Hardy. What to do?
[17:45] <navetz> thefish: also, I can't ping that servers IP address
[17:45] <thefish> navetz, can you "nc server 80", then just type in some junk and ENTER, you should get an html-formatted error
[17:45] <fde> goingbacktowindo: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-56891.html  looks familiar to you I suppose?
[17:45] <gnuskool> nice_burger: is there 1 file or many files on the cd?
[17:45] <zakou> Mr anderson
[17:45] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, how do you do that? Fn+F2 enables the modem in windows.
[17:45] <mysterycool> but if just somebody would set up an organisation and make really nice games relative to those which are like top 10 games on windows, like Sims, World Of Warcraft, Call of Duty etc... then people would actually turn to linux
[17:45] <thefish> navetz, ah ok theres the problem
[17:45] <arcsky> Anyone did basic .htaccess on apache2 ?
[17:45] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  lets see
[17:45] <tonyyarusso> I'm doing an upgrade (command line, with do-release-upgrade) from 7.10 to 8.04, and it's giving a bunch of helpful messages (NIS, MySQL, and PostgreSQL stuff) - will these be written to a file as well?  (I'm writing them on dead trees right now.)
[17:45] <danbhfive> Pici: ooo, there is a point release?  do you have a link where I could get more info?  or is it just for firefox 3 final?
[17:45] <zakou> hello
[17:45] <thefish> Hasone, hows it going there?
[17:46] <arcsky> Ist worng to add this <directory /var/www/sec> lines in my default if i want basic .htaccss ? http://pastebin.com/m5e4688f8
[17:46] <goingbacktowindo> fde, nope, let me look at that.
[17:46] <khamael> mysterycool: as I said. loki tried
[17:46] <Pici> danbhfive: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[17:46] <Hasone> i'm trying to accept something to do with atlas, but when I hit enter nothing happens :(
[17:46] <zakou> heaven here
[17:46] <atlef> mysterycool: we do not game here.:-)
[17:46] <rodolfo> at what time ubuntu open week wihh happen? nothing happens on that channel...
[17:46] <danbhfive> Pici: thanks
[17:46] <thefish> navetz, on that server, ifconfig again to check its ip
[17:46] <rodolfo> ops, will* :P
[17:46] <Hasone> thefish: nevermind.
[17:46] <mysterycool> khamael: and what happened to loki btw? :S
[17:46] <navetz> thefish:L when I try nc server 80 I get forward host lookup failed. But anyway I don't think I have my server hosted online.
[17:46] <gnuskool> mysterycool: i agree, but the buck stops somewhere, maybe in game advertising or something else to pay, like they do on counterstrike
[17:46] <zakou> heaven is around me
[17:46] <navetz> thefish: ok ive got the ip
[17:46] <Hasone> thefish: if apparmor is having problems, whatever that is, is that a problem?
[17:46] <mysterycool> atlef: exactly. thats my point.
[17:47] <ron> any idea why i cannot type a capital C in ubuntu? i will type it if i use cap lock
[17:47] <tonyyarusso> danbhfive: Apparently it's not even guarantted to have FF3final, although it's likely.  They'll be evaluating a bunch of different things to see what makes sense.
[17:47] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  -- is your pc a powerbook?
[17:47] <bazhang> zakou: this is a support channel; do you have a support question?
[17:47] <atlef> mysterycool: as i understand it, ea is turning
[17:47] <thefish> Hasone, shouldnt do, unless you configured anything
[17:47] <mysterycool> atlef: cuz programmers for linux are not interested in developing games
[17:47] <egoleo> hello
[17:47] <mysterycool> atlef: ea is turning? what do u mean? :S
[17:47] <danbhfive> tonyyarusso: I see
[17:47] <thefish> navetz, you have the server ip? if so, try ping from laptop
[17:47] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, nope, it's a Compaq Evo N610C just like what was "confirmed to work" on that wiki page hah
[17:47] <atlef> mysterycool: but that is not confirmed yet
[17:47] <Pici> !offtopic | atlef mysterycool
[17:47] <fde> goingbacktowindo: that actually isn't very helpful... no one really seems to have come up with a solution it would seem
[17:47] <Hasone> it's plodding along.
[17:47] <egoleo> for some reason my apache is not working on hardy
[17:47] <atlef> sorry
[17:47] <zakou> how said hello the whole
[17:47] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, that's why I believe the wiki page is lying through it's e-teeth about it working.
[17:47] <khamael> mysterycool: they didn`t make (enough) money. the games came half a year after windows release, or longer. those who wanted the games bought the windows version when it came out, and didin`t convert to linux
[17:47] <navetz> thefish: i can't ping the server ip from the laptop, it wont work.
[17:47] <thefish> Hasone, is that with the reconfigure?
[17:47] <mysterycool> um ,yeah -_-
[17:48] <navetz> thefish: all packets are lost
[17:48] <asizemore> crap, #bitlbee doesn't exist
[17:48] <zakou> try to say mine to know you
[17:48] <bazhang> zakou /j #ubuntu-offtopic for chat thanks
[17:48] <Oggu> I have no sound in VLC after Hardy. What to do?
[17:48] <Hasone> thefish: yeah.
[17:48] <thefish> navetz, did you set up a firewall on the server?
[17:48] <gnuskool> Oggu: just vlc or system-wide?
[17:48] <bazhang> oggu have you tried using alsa instead? what about another app
[17:48] <navetz> thefish: no I installed ubuntu server edition and thats it
[17:48] <goingbacktowindo> fde, yeah, I've actually been researching this, beating my wife etc for about 4 months (goes all the way back to Gutsy) and I have stumped everyone here several times over hehe
[17:49] <Mr> come on
[17:49] <atlef> brb
[17:49] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  -- http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?12,4546
[17:49] <fde> goingbacktowindo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo I take it you've followed this? You said the modules are loaded etc, so it's got to be something with your software...
[17:49] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  determine if the USB port is working
[17:49] <asizemore> I need to know how to get the repositories needed to upgrade my server or to get bitlbee without them
[17:49] <thefish> navetz, do you have any other computers on the network, connected in the same way as server?
[17:49] <dgts123> My modified xorg.conf doesn't seem to work, i get the displayconfig-gtk tool prompted at login and the Xorg.0.log says it used "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe" as a config file. How can see what went wrong with the original xorg.conf?
[17:49] <thefish> navetz, all i can think is that maybe there is some routing issue then
[17:49] <Hasone> thefish: btw, though you said it might not be useful, I've got the alternate install cd 15 mins away from being finished downloading
[17:49] <goingbacktowindo> fde, yup, followed it verbatim.
[17:49] <nice_burger> gnuskool, there are many files, as I said
[17:50] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, I'm not sure how to determine that, is there a command or something I should use?
[17:50] <thefish> Hasone, hehe ok
[17:50] <navetz> thefish: do I have to set up a DNS ?
[17:50] <mysterycool> lol form their website: Loki is closed. Thanks for your patronage.
[17:50] <nice_burger> atlef, do i do that when GRUB is starting up, i think i know how to
[17:50] <thefish> navetz, not for connecting directly with ip address no
[17:50] <Arkaic> goingbacktowindo: looked at this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb
[17:50] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  -- follow that url > http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?12,4546
[17:50] <Oggu> gnuskool, bazhang: Just vlc, working in firefox, in rhytmbox i cant even start a aong
[17:50] <Arkaic> goingbacktowindo: you device is mentioned there as a "Compaq/Intel W100 PRO/Wireless 11Mbps multiport WLAN Adapter"
[17:50] <gnuskool> nice_burger: missed you the 1st time, lots of ppl talking here...well id say look in your bios settings if 'boot from cd' is your primary boot
[17:50] <Oggu> song*
[17:50] <Arkaic> same pci id
[17:51] <navetz> thefish: humm, well this is weird because I am using a static IP
[17:51] <brane> what is best to backup my Ubuntu ? in Windows i use BartPE CD with GHOST ...
[17:51] <zvacet>     asizemore :            http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[17:51] <tonyyarusso> !backup | brane
[17:51] <Idle0ne> anyone know if the latest ubuntu supports the wifi card in the mac pro?
[17:51] <asizemore> !bitlbee
[17:51] <nice_burger> gnuskool, hehe, where are my bios settings then?
[17:51] <fde> goingbacktowindo: have you tried with linux-wlan-ng ? Most report miraculous results with it... heh
[17:51] <pop> How can I change my video driver from ati to radeon?
[17:51] <goingbacktowindo> Arkaic, that's the funny thing, orinoco shows up and prism2_usb on my system. I'm very confused haha
[17:51] <asizemore> !upgrade
[17:51] <bazhang> oggu do you have flash playing in youtube at the same time?
[17:51] <brane> wow
[17:51] <tonyyarusso> brane: Basically, it depends on your own needs.  I'm finding sbackup to be best suited for me right now.
[17:51] <thefish> navetz, you have laptop [17:51] <brane> thanks !
[17:52] <bazhang> http://www.debianadmin.com/backup-and-restore-your-ubuntu-system-using-sbackup.html brane
[17:52] <Hasone> random question: was there a significant upgrade to gnash in hardy heron?
[17:52] <goingbacktowindo> fde, yes, tried linux-wlan-ng back in my Gutsy days with no luck :(
[17:52] <brane> thanks lot !
[17:52] <Oggu> bazhang: I had a flash loding, now no flash, stil ldont work
[17:52] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  so it is a 100.. not 200.. and multiport WLAN
[17:52] <asizemore> is upgrading ubuntu supported through ssh?
[17:52] <Hasone> thefish: I'm getting a bunch of undefined kernel k.ey codes for some reason
[17:52] <fde> goingbacktowindo: ahh... I have a prism2_usb based wireless... but yours should be using 'oronico_cs' (pretend I spelled that correctly)
[17:52] <Fogel1497> When i boot ubuntu it says it cannot detect my graphics card and will run in low gfx mode. But it use to detect it and it use to run fine. I have made no changes since  then.
[17:52] <thefish> Hasone, oww
[17:52] <gnuskool> nice_burger: restart your computer and as soon as it beeps, before even loading windows press delete or F1 and you will go into your bios setup
[17:52] <navetz> thefish: laptop [17:52] <mad_max02> can anyone help me make google earth work ??
[17:52] <thefish> Hasone, is that a new install?
[17:52] <pop> How can I change the video driver used by ubuntu?
[17:52] <Hasone> thefish: as of 6 months ago :)
[17:52] <dgts123> Fogel1497, same problem here.. worked fine in previous ubuntu versions
[17:53] <Oggu> bazhang: whit firefox closed rhytmbox goes
[17:53] <nice_burger> gnuskool, i don't have windows, it's gutsy, will your instructions work still?
[17:53] <khamael> mysterycool: the problem with cedega, is that linux-users are spoiled with free software
[17:53] <Hasone> thefish: is that really bad?
[17:53] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, not sure haha the drivers pretty much showed up out of box as both orinoco and prism2
[17:53] <thefish> navetz, ok so the wireless is a hub/switch as well and the server is plugged in to it?
[17:53] <brane> wow amazing !
[17:53] <Oggu> bazhang: and sound in vlc aswell
[17:53] <mysterycool> lol XD
[17:53] <Oggu> bazhang: Why this?
[17:53] <thefish> Hasone, could be just your locale
[17:53] <thefish> Hasone, its still doing stuff though ye?
[17:53] <bazhang> oggu that is a bug; until it is fixed have to live with just the one but not both
[17:53] <asizemore> sigh
[17:53] <pop> khamael: not really, it's just that crossover games is a lot better :)
[17:53] <Fogel1497> dtgs123: Its annoying as hell.  I can bash things with bash.
[17:54] <gnuskool> Oggu: sorry thought it might be a system prob, not too sure otherwise
[17:54] <thefish> hehehe
[17:54] <nice_burger> gnuskool, k thanks, doing it now.
[17:54] <Hasone> I can only dash fast with dash.
[17:54] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  you try lsusb with and without the device plugged in?
[17:54] <fde> goingbacktowindo: but both prism2_usb and orinico_cs are wireless modules... they could be arguing with each other, or could be wrong module reported.
[17:54] <navetz> thefish: maybe, I am not 100% sure where they are all pluged in. But I know that the server is a static ip directly from the ISP. the laptop is connected wirelessly to somewhere. Not sure exactly where.
[17:54] <thefish> Hasone, ok cool - if a config got broken, this is how it will be fixed
[17:54] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, lemme check
[17:54] <khamael> pop: crossover wine?
[17:55] <Idle0ne> anyone know if the latest ubuntu supports the wifi card in the mac pro?
[17:55] <asizemore> fde, I'm just sighing because I am waiting for answers and I don't think I've even been seen :P
[17:55] <thefish> navetz, so the server has 2 ip addresses?
[17:55] <Hasone> wine is awesome
[17:55] <dgts123> so any ideas on how to see why xorg.conf failed and xorg.conf.failsafe was used?
[17:55] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, it doesn't show when I turn the adapter off with lsusb, but if I motion to turn the adapter on it does show in lsusb
[17:55] <pop> khamael: crossover games.
[17:55] <navetz> thefish: no just one static ip.
[17:55] <eigenval> hi, during the booting of hardy i see a blurred screen, until the login-screen is present. ugly. what can  I do?
[17:55] <thefish> navetz, because if you are trying to connect to its public ip, then its a loopback connection, and most of the time those will be dropped
[17:55] <fde> asizemore: ask your question again then... this is a rapid moving channel, hard to catch all question... ask around every 5-10 mins maybe someone will know.
[17:55] <Arkaic> dgts123: have you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log   ?
[17:55] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  might try to take out the prism driver
[17:55] <goingbacktowindo> fde, is there a way to tell which wireless module is showing currently?
[17:56] <asizemore> yeah, I just don't want to get yelled at again for asking too often
[17:56] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, how is that done?
[17:56] <pop> khamael: commercial wine, except they actually help wine out and not rip off money off them (like cedega is).
[17:56] <dgts123> Arkaic, yep, it only reports what happened during using the failsafe one
[17:56] <asizemore> but, is upgrading ubuntu supported over ssh?
[17:56] <Hasone> y'know, I might be crazy, but right now I used gedit instead of emacs.
[17:56] <fde> goingbacktowindo: NetworkManager will tell you in the applet thing... right click > Connection Information
[17:56] <egoleo> is hardy not working hardy?
[17:56] <brane> i try to use fsck but i got worning ? is it safe ?
[17:57] <goingbacktowindo> fde, it doesn't hehe just shows ip address and such
[17:57] <Arkaic> dgts123: nothing useful in dmesg either?
[17:57] <asizemore> Hasone: I still use vim
[17:57] <fde> goingbacktowindo: You really don't need to have 2 wireless NIC modules loaded though... orinico or whatever shows up alongside prism?
[17:57] <Hasone> thefish: it said wrote /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/debian-startup.elc, then it said Done, and now it's just sitting there.
[17:57] <dgts123> Arkaic, will check
[17:57] <navetz> thefish: that may be whats happening. But it is my understanding that this is a static IP bought from the ISP. I thought a staic ip was suppose to go directly to the server.
[17:57] <thefish> navetz, what is the netmask there for both server and laptop?
[17:57] <Hasone> thefish: nm.
[17:57] <fde> goingbacktowindo: Should have a Driver: line?
[17:57] <zvacet> brane : from,live CD
[17:57] <thefish> navetz, possibly, is your server directly connected to internet, or you have a router?
[17:57] <goingbacktowindo> fde, I believe mine is to be used with orinoco and not prism2 as windows reports it to be a w200 and not a w100 for prism2
[17:57] <khamael> pop: sharing is good ;)
[17:57] <brane> ok is it simular to chkdsk ?
[17:57] <Hasone> thefish: now it's asking me if I want fdmount to execute with root privileges. do I?
[17:58] <goingbacktowindo> fde, nope, sorry. No driver line that way
[17:58] <HermanChess> where can I find the firefox icon ? where is it stored ??
[17:58] <thefish> Hasone, just go with defaults, they are all pretty sane
[17:58] <dgts123> Arkaic, for what exactly should i look in the output of dmesg?
[17:58] <goingbacktowindo> fde, sorry, I have e100 in "Driver" lol
[17:58] <Hasone> thefish: how long you been doing this linux/ubuntu thing?
[17:58] <Chapai> what wildcard to i use to copy all files beginning with ax to a different folders.
[17:58] <thefish> Hasone, do you even have a floppy drive?
[17:58] <drivetrax> Now, we can load up the driver for this device:
[17:58] <drivetrax> sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x4348 product=0x5523
[17:58] <drivetrax> Finally, check dmesg again to ensure it loaded properly.
[17:58] <Hasone> thefish: maybe?
[17:58] <goingbacktowindo> fde, but I am connected via wired connection so I believe that driver is for it. The wireless shows "prism2" in "Driver"
[17:58] <asizemore> hey, is upgrading ubuntu supported over ssh?
[17:58] <Arkaic> Hasone: check /usr/share/pixmaps
[17:58] <ChaosTheory^> Is it possible to stream videos from websites using mplayer or some other player in console?
[17:59] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  fde -- the vendor will be different for the e100
[17:59] <fde> goingbacktowindo: also, Linux reports it as a orinoco... so yeah... 'echo blacklist prism2_usb >> /etc/modules.d/blacklist' and restart  :)  (provided orinoco-cs is listed in lsmod)
[17:59] <Arkaic> dthacker-work: anything to do with xorg or the video card
[17:59] <thefish> Hasone, not sure, a few years now though :)
[17:59] <Arkaic> ack
[17:59] <Arkaic> dgts123, that is
[17:59] <amirman84> is it safe to disable evolutions alarm notifier at startup through the sessions menu?
[17:59] <mak1084>  can any one tell me how i can install from usb?
[17:59] <fde> goingbacktowindo: e100 is your wired NIC
[17:59] <thefish> Hasone, you are back to a prompt now?
[17:59] <Hasone> thefish: it's stuck on something, but it was stuck on --- nervemind. it's doing something with fonts. I'll just wait here.
[17:59] <Hasone> thefish: nope.
[17:59] <goingbacktowindo> fde, correct
[17:59] <fde> goingbacktowindo: that should be fine
[17:59] <drivetrax> ok
[18:00] <drivetrax> ok
[18:00] <thefish> Hasone, aah fonts, that will take a little while
[18:00] <drivetrax>  the wired is e100
[18:00] <heartsblood> I recently lost my system drive and when I reinstalled I lost my home directory files that I had on a software raid setup.  Is it possible to reclaim those files?  Or will the configuring of the raid software/driver format the partitions?
[18:00] <goingbacktowindo> fde, ok, I'll try the blacklist bit and restart to see if it works
[18:00] <asizemore> hey, is upgrading ubuntu supported over ssh?
[18:00] <drivetrax> yes blacklist the prism
[18:00] <fde> goingbacktowindo: first... 'lsmod | grep orinoco' returns things?
[18:00] <thefish> navetz, my guess is you have internet [18:00] <amirman84> is it safe to prevent evolutions alarm notifier from starting up if i dont even use evolutions apps?
[18:00] <navetz> thefish: thanks I got it working, there was some redirection issues, thanks for the help.
[18:00] <goingbacktowindo> fde, yes let me pastebin for you
[18:00] <Hasone> now we're on CUPS - which I've never had the good fortune to use because there are tons of computers in my house I just send files to to print.
[18:01] <Chapai> what wildcard to i use to copy all files beginning with ax to a different folders.
[18:01] <fde> goingbacktowindo: no need, if it does... just do the blacklist command  :)
[18:01] <thefish> navetz, no worries, glad you came right  :)
[18:01] <zvacet>          mak1084 :           http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[18:01] <goingbacktowindo> fde, http://pastebin.com/m107b8f06
[18:01] <fde> goingbacktowindo: you SHOULD be all set once the kernel stops being confused  :)
[18:01] <Hasone> thefish: now update-iniramfs. I don't linke the idea that the ram filesystem is being messed with while the ram is being used.
[18:01] <heartsblood> how do you mount a software raid?
[18:01] <goingbacktowindo> fde, there's a lot that shows up with lsmod hah
[18:01] <asizemore> hey, is upgrading ubuntu supported over ssh?
[18:01] <amirman84> THANKS
[18:01] <heartsblood> outside of the initial install of the alternative install cd
[18:02] <thefish> Hasone, thats for booting, its all good
[18:02] <fde> goingbacktowindo: yeah, thats every driver for every device in your system... hence the grep  :)
[18:02] <HoNgOuRu> how can I fix firefox?? I cannot hear sound at youtube.com
[18:02] <HoNgOuRu> please help
[18:02] <Hasone> thefish: it seems to be cleaning up.
[18:02] <HoNgOuRu> the other apps works perfectly with alsa
[18:02] <goingbacktowindo> fde, hah ok, after i put in that blacklist command I'm taken to a ">" prompt. Is that normal?
[18:02] <malcolmpdx> Looking to find out if hardy supports the PERC 5i controller.  Some forum posts from 2 years ago indicated some issues.
[18:02] <fde> goingbacktowindo: no.
[18:02] <drivetrax> up.. scrollback.. blacklist
[18:02] <thefish> Hasone, have a read when you get a min: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Initramfs
[18:02] <Chapai> HoNgOuRu, install libflashsupport
[18:02] <fde> you weren't supposed to include the ' 's
[18:02] <Bodsda> doing a manual install, should the swap partition be logical or primary?
[18:03] <HoNgOuRu> ??
[18:03] <goingbacktowindo> oh lol
[18:03] <fde> goingbacktowindo: ^^
[18:03] <[Yogh]> Salutations !
[18:03] <HoNgOuRu> but I can watch them
[18:03] <Idle0ne> anyone know if the latest ubuntu supports the wifi card in the mac pro?
[18:03] <filthpig> hi, I've noticed that nautilus keeps growing in mem usage the longer my computer is turned on. When the system starts it's about 50 mb, and now, after a few days it's almost 80.. is there some cache I can delete or smth? running gutsy...
[18:03] <Chapai> its for sound HoNgOuRu
[18:03] <Khuno> bonsoir
[18:03] <goingbacktowindo> fde, bash: /etc/modules.d/blacklist: No such file or directory
[18:03] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[18:03] <zvacet> Bodsda :put it as logical
[18:03] <Bodsda> ok ty
[18:03] <gnuskool> IdleOne: whats the name of the card, do you know that?
[18:03] <Hasone> thefish: gener9ating mime/codec maps. I'm sure you're fascinated by what my computer is doing.
[18:04] <Bodsda> zvacet, what about /and /boot ?
[18:04] <dan> file:///home/dan/Desktop/ChangeLog
[18:04] <asizemore> hey, is upgrading ubuntu supported over ssh?
[18:04] <fde> goingbacktowindo: modprobe.d ... apologies.
[18:04] <goingbacktowindo> fde, drivetrax I sware, if you two can get this wireless going I will award you both +10 internets a piece :)
[18:04] <dan> file:///home/dan/Desktop/ChangeLog(2)
[18:04] <dan> file:///home/dan/Desktop/minor-docstring-cleanups.patch
[18:04] <thefish> Hasone, im absolutely hanging off every update ;)
[18:04] <ChaosTheory^> How do I make xpdf my default pdf viewer from console?
[18:04] <HoNgOuRu> fixed, thanks a lot Chapai
[18:04] <zvacet> Bodsda :they can be primary or extended,but primary is common
[18:04] <fde> goingbacktowindo: No promises, but there is no reason for it not to once we make the kernel stop being confused.
[18:04] <goingbacktowindo> fde, no worries hah I get permission denied though
[18:05] <Hasone> thefish: :) well, in that case, it's still generating mime/codec maps :P
[18:05] <Chapai> np HoNgOuRu
[18:05] <Bodsda> zvacet, cheers dude
[18:05] <zvacet> Bodsda : np
[18:05] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  sudo
[18:05] <Hasone> thefish: And I have a feeling it will be doing so fgor quite some time.
[18:05] <fde> goingbacktowindo: sudo -i  then try it again... sorry
[18:05] <eigenval> ChaosTheory^:  audio stream recording works with mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile myfile.mp3 mms://yoururl_here   don't know about video streaming ...
[18:05] <fde> goingbacktowindo: I don't think I included a sudo in the previous command...
[18:05] <mmiski_> hi all
[18:05] <goingbacktowindo> fde, sudo -i echo blacklist prism2_usb >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: Permission denied
[18:06] <Hasone> While I'm waiting for my computer to fix itself, I woulrd like us all to take a step back and appreciate what a miracle a computer is, and what a miracle is that there are people who are smart enough to make them and make them work.
[18:06] <goingbacktowindo> fde, yah, I'm a syntax retard lol
[18:06] <drivetrax> goingbacktowindo,  that your pc, you get root?
[18:06] <artti> I have files with endings .mdf and .mds. Does somehow have to get them to .iso?
[18:06] <eigenval>  Hasone: amen ;-)
[18:06] <goingbacktowindo> drivetrax, not sure, I just installed Hardy last night all basic and such
[18:06] <mmiski_> I have a question, I just installed heron 8.04 and would like to install Kompozer - has anyne installed it on the new heron OS?
[18:07] <Hasone> thefish: when it says skipped ubuntustudio-controls.desktop: does not include a menu name, is that bad?
[18:07] <thefish> Hasone, i have a confession to make... i gave you the wrong command :(
[18:07] <evilbug> are the servers still stressed out from people upgrading to hardy?
[18:07] <fde> goingbacktowindo: no... sudo -i THEN the command... heh... but stick a ' ' around blacklist and usb
[18:07] <Hasone> thefish: you have GOT to be kidding me.
[18:07] <thefish> Hasone, not bad, just takes a while...
[18:07] <Tenrai> /msg ubottu etiquette
[18:07] <Istvan> Hello
[18:07] <malcolmpdx> Looking to find out if hardy supports the PERC 5i RAID controller.  Some forum posts from 2 years ago indicated some issues.
[18:07] <goingbacktowindo> fde, haha ok
[18:07] <Hasone> thefish: can I open up another terminal window, or should I wait for this to play out?
[18:07] <thefish> Hasone, sorry :/ - it will still fix the beast though
[18:07] <Istvan> Someone knows how to play conquer online with wine ?
[18:07] <zvacet> Hasone : big tnx to Turing
[18:08] <Hasone> zvacet: amen to that.
[18:08] <fde> goingbacktowindo: echo 'blacklist prism2_usb' >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist  <-- inside the provided active shell
[18:08] <fde> interactive*
[18:08] <khamael> mysterycool: what would be good for linux, was if not only they ported games to linux, but made them cheaper. we are allowed to dream
[18:08] <Hasone> thefish: what was the shorter command going to be? actually, I don't want to know.
[18:08] <evilbug> Istvan- there should be some instructions for that on the wine homepage
[18:08] <Hasone> khamael: All games must be open source! down with games!
[18:08] <zvacet> Hasone :and his thiniking machine
[18:08] <fde> goingbacktowindo: make sure the >> is there though... else it'll replace everything... >> will put it at the bottem of that file.
[18:08] <thefish> Hasone, spose you could just kill that, then dpkg --configure -a
[18:08] <artti> What to do with files .mdf and .mds?
[18:08]  * Hasone plays nintendo.
[18:08] <Bravewolf>  I'm going to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04. I disabled all the additional repos (eg. Medibuntu, innotek, canonical partner) and I cleaned the package status using "apt-get clean" and "apt-get autoremove". Now I have some non official Ubuntu packages, such as mplayer (medibuntu), ffmpeg (medibuntu), skype, googleearth, canon cups driver, virtualbox. Can I begin the upgrade or I have to do some more actions? Thanks!
[18:08] <filthpig> so I want to upgrade to hardy, but dist-upgrade uses /tmp to download the files, and my / partition is too small. Is there some way to tell dist-upgrade to use i.e a folder on my /home partition in stead?
[18:08] <mmiski_> I have a question, I just installed heron 8.04 and would like to install Kompozer - has anyne installed it on the new heron OS?
[18:09] <Istvan> evilbug
[18:09] <khamael> Hasone: not opensource. just working
[18:09] <mikedep334> hi, where can I find the ubuntu logo with the hands joined together?
[18:09] <evilbug> Istvan- ?
[18:09] <goingbacktowindo> fde, it appears to have worked. No permission denied or anything, but no output saying it worked or not hehe
[18:09] <Hasone> thefish: killing it while update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.5.22-14-generic won't hurt it?
[18:09] <mikedep334> I'm preparing a presentation
[18:09] <Istvan> I tryed to make it work with the tutorial but it's not working
[18:09] <fde> goingbacktowindo: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist | tail -n1 <-- type that to make sure.
[18:09] <brane> i use lot time on internet this days ... how i can be sure that my Ubuntu do not have viruses ?
[18:09] <evilbug> Istvan- then i can't help you,haven't had much success with wine myself X_X
[18:09] <Bravewolf> filthpig: yes. you can use a temporary simbolic link, but you have to log off from X first
[18:09] <Istvan> The new version opens an antivirus and after that conquer stops loading
[18:10] <thefish> Hasone, whats it doing now?
[18:10] <Hasone> generating locales...
[18:10] <goingbacktowindo> fde, cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist | tail -nl tail: l: invalid number of lines
[18:10] <Hasone> en-IN.UTF-8...
[18:10] <evilbug> Istvan- i really have no clue then.
[18:10] <thefish> Hasone, you use a 2.5.x kernel?
[18:10] <fde> goingbacktowindo: there shouldn't have been output... we directed it to that file instead of a stdin
[18:10] <goingbacktowindo> is that a "one" and not an "L"
[18:10] <filthpig> Bravewolf, cool, do you have a walkthrough for it?
[18:10] <Hasone> 2.6.x.
[18:10] <fde> goingbacktowindo: it's a 1
[18:10] <thefish> :)
[18:10] <Hasone> thefish: I'm pretty sure.
[18:10] <goingbacktowindo> fde, haha ok, I got this blacklist prism2_usb
[18:11] <Istvan> Someone knows how to play Conquer Online with wine ? (I want some good instructions not the tutorial on winehq)
[18:11] <openuser> hi, does anybody know any program to detect wifi connections, such windows xp wifi center???
[18:11] <evilbug> Istvan- have you googled your issue?
[18:11] <Istvan> Yes
[18:11] <drivetrax> good going fde..
[18:11] <fde> goingbacktowindo: that says "give me 1 lines at the tail end of the file"
[18:11] <Istvan> And I didn't find nothing relevant
[18:11] <Hasone> thefish: I'm scared to kill it. can I run configure concurrently?
[18:11] <sylar_> could anybody help me with sound issuse?
[18:11] <evilbug> Istvan- i see.good luck then.
[18:11] <goingbacktowindo> fde, cool :D I'm learning hah
[18:11] <thefish> Hasone, probably ye
[18:11] <sylar_> help me please
[18:11] <fde> drivetrax: haha... I should have just gotten him to edit the file manually... but I thought it'd be easier to just throw it in there...
[18:11] <Hasone> thefish: If I kill it and my system gets messed up, you'll help me fix it?
[18:12] <thefish> Hasone, of course :)
[18:12] <drivetrax> fde - unplug the device
[18:12] <Istvan> because the new patch was introduced now and the websites are not saying how to pass the antivirus check which blocs co from loading
[18:12] <unstable> If I'm on dapper, what is the best way to upgrade to hardy? just direct upgrade?
[18:12] <fde> goingbacktowindo: ok... now restart... once the kernel isn't confused, what you've done before SHOULD work.
[18:12] <evilbug> is it safe to upgrade to hardy yet,or is it still generally buggy?
[18:12] <goingbacktowindo> fde, so now reboot and pray?
[18:12] <thefish> Hasone, but that means you owe me beer
[18:12] <drivetrax> unplug device
[18:12] <Hasone> thefish: in that case, let's go!
[18:12] <zvacet> Istvan :try on wine forums
[18:12] <goingbacktowindo> fde, ok, thanks a million for the help, you too drivetrax :D bbl (hopefully on wifi)
[18:12] <fde> drivetrax: reboot else he has to restart networking and nm ...
[18:12] <Solusian> Can anyone please assist me with a wireless issue?
[18:12] <fde> goingbacktowindo: yup
[18:12] <fde> goingbacktowindo: come back either way though
[18:12] <brane> check for viruses ! how to do thats in eyecandy Ubuntu ?
[18:12] <Hasone> thefish: what was that command again?
[18:12] <goingbacktowindo> fde, will do
[18:12] <drivetrax> wifi needs that.. I didn't know
[18:12] <goingbacktowindo> cheers!
[18:13] <thefish> Hasone, dpkg --configure -a
[18:13] <drivetrax> heck, I learned too
[18:13] <sylar_> I don't have any sound in ubuntu.. what should i do..
[18:13] <openuser> does anybody know any wifi ''radar'' application??? (please, no wifi connections crackers)
[18:13] <cellofellow> ok, quick question: why can't I move a window above the top of the screen using Compiz?
[18:13] <Solusian> sylar_: Did you update your alsa-drivers?
[18:13] <Hasone> it didn't say anything
[18:13] <Hasone> and I typed sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:13] <Hasone> maybe I put in the wrong sudo password
[18:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !compiz > cellofellow
[18:13] <cellofellow> openuser: wifi-radar comes to mind.
[18:13] <dryrot> openuser: wifi-radar?  wicd ?
[18:13] <drivetrax> cellofellow,  the top is a cap, and the bottom is a cap
[18:13] <cellofellow> openuser: and NetworkManager
[18:13] <zvacet> brane :why do you want to do that
[18:13] <sylar_> Solusian:I don't have sound in 7.10 also I have upgraded to 8.04 and still no sound
[18:14] <Hasone> no, I put in the right sudo password
[18:14] <Hasone> thefish: still have my problem
[18:14] <Bravewolf> filthpig: first of all logout form X. the disable gdm (or kdm) using e.g sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[18:14] <thefish> Hasone, just a mo
[18:14] <mak1084> zvacet: i want to install from pendrive not into pendrive...
[18:14] <Hasone> thefish: kk
[18:14] <brane> i be watching same porn site sory !
[18:14] <openuser> cellofellow: wifi manager seem to don't work in my computer, it don't has the scan option
[18:14] <cellofellow> drivetrax: it's the Cube Caps plugin then?
[18:14] <filthpig> Bravewolf, but why?
[18:14] <evilbug> brane- :)
[18:14] <zvacet> mak1084 : O.K.
[18:14] <drivetrax> cellofellow,  no, you can't place windows on top nor bottom
[18:14] <fde> mak1084: Not really an Ubuntu issue... if your BIOS can boot from the device, do that, else you can't.
[18:15] <kuma> hi, i'm trying to creat an adhoc network between my ubuntu hardy and a vista, can someone help me?
[18:15] <zvacet> brane : you can not be infected by just watching
[18:15] <brane> in Windows i use 50 % time for chech viruses !
[18:15] <slipttees> release wine 0.9.60 in repo ubuntu
[18:15] <cellofellow> openuser: well, wifi-radar and NetworkManager (the default) can't be mixed, AFAIK.
[18:15] <carrapa> lo all
[18:15] <zvacet> brane : windows viruses work in windows,not in linux
[18:15] <Bravewolf> filthpig: wait, i'm writing (because gnome creates some temporary files in /tmp)
[18:15] <thefish> Hasone, missus on line one ;)
[18:16] <brane> realy !
[18:16] <fde> brane: You still should check for them, don't want to pass on anything unknowingly heh
[18:16] <Hasone> thefish: go forth, young man!
[18:16] <thefish> Hasone, ok so its just returned you to the prompt again?
[18:16] <Sake> so I'm trying to use rdiff-backup and my acl entries are getting dropped, even though the file system I'm backing up to/from both support acl (just for the mounted partitions where <source> and <destination> are stored, not the whole file system). Any ideas what might be wrong?
[18:16] <filthpig> Bravewolf, alright, /me hangs on :)
[18:16] <Hasone> thefish: yep
[18:16] <Paddy_EIRE> !lnw | brane
[18:16] <Hasone> thefish: do I have to go back to reconfigure?
[18:16] <thefish> Hasone, ok "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[18:16] <cellofellow> drivetrax: a window can be moved to the bottom of the screen until the border hits it, but it can't be moved to the top. That is, unless I move it while using Expo.
[18:16] <drivetrax> I got !Avast for windows.. and Linux. I liked it, and went an got it for Linux..
[18:17] <Hasone> E: Various index files couldn't be download and were ignored. Used old files in their place.
[18:17] <Bravewolf> filthpig: then creates your new /tmp folder, e.g. mkdir /home/username/tmp
[18:17] <mccomb> hello, i'm using ubuntu hardy heron with autologin and ndiswrapper for my atheros AR5006EG wireless card, keyring manager is asking me the keyring main password everytime nm-applet finds my WPA2 secure network. How can i make keyring manager not to ask me that anymore and still have autologin?
[18:17] <cgentry72> I noticed that tracker and tracker applet are in my startup programs, do i need this?
[18:17] <thefish> Hasone, there were 2 commands there, dpkg-reconfigure -a reconfigures every single package, dpkg --configure -a configures ones that are downloaded but not configured (like what happens when you crash when upgrading)
[18:17] <drivetrax> Expo.. yes..
[18:17] <brane> any of you check for viruses or sleep normal ?
[18:17] <thefish> Hasone, does it want to do upgrades with that command?
[18:17] <Hasone> thefish: yeah.
[18:17] <_moro_bana_>  long live ubuntu long live!!!!!!!!!!
[18:17] <evilbug> brane- viruses?
[18:18] <thefish> Hasone, cool do em - is it a lot?
[18:18] <Paddy_EIRE> mccomb: I have been unable to figure that one out myself
[18:18] <riccardo> i have an hercules webcam, and ubuntu 8.04. the system recognize it with the command lsusb, but the program skype not. what is wrong?
[18:18] <Hasone> thefish: I can't. no internet.
[18:18] <gnuskool> brane: never done a virus check with linux
[18:18] <drivetrax> CELL GOT A PANEL UP THERE?
[18:18] <Paddy_EIRE> mccomb: I do not think it works when autologin is enabled
[18:18] <thefish> Hasone, buggery!
[18:18] <drivetrax> ooops
[18:18] <Hasone> thefish: that's what I've downloaded the alternate cd for.
[18:18] <brane> ok i then use sbackup for be sure ...
[18:18] <Bravewolf> filthpig: then make a symbolic link like this: "sudo ln -s /home/username/tmp /tmp" and change the permisssion to the folder using "sudo chmod 777 /home/username/tmp".
[18:18] <thefish> Hasone, ok, lets get that working then - do you use dhcp in your net?
[18:18] <cgentry72> I noticed that tracker and tracker applet are in my startup programs, do i need this?
[18:18] <Hasone> uh... it's wi-fi.
[18:19] <swmiller6> anyone know how to change the icon for the menu-bar
[18:19] <Bravewolf> filthpig: so if you try to use /tmp the system should use /home/username/tmp instead.
[18:19] <Hasone> and my old internet connection icon dissapeared. I dunno what happened to it.
[18:19] <thefish> Hasone, any chance of wired for a bit?
[18:19] <Paddy_EIRE> swmiller6: google for that one :)
[18:19] <Hasone> thefish: nope. my ethernet port is bupkis.
[18:19] <swmiller6> Paddy_EIRE: Those are not working
[18:20] <evilbug> should i upgrade to hardy or are there some bugs still to be fixed until the first major update?
[18:20] <thefish> Hasone, bugger, ok wireless is definately not my strong point - ive been lucky with it! what wlan nic is it?
[18:20] <Paddy_EIRE> swmiller6: those what?? http://strabes.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/change-the-menu-bar-logo-on-ubuntu-dapper/
[18:20] <px> hi - can anyone help me with a google earth problem?
[18:20] <xomp> fde, it's me, goingbacktowindo blacklisting prism2 doesn't seem to work.
[18:20] <Paddy_EIRE> swmiller6: works perfectly fine
[18:20] <Hasone> thefish: I have no idea.
[18:20] <Hasone> thefish: are you sure the cd can't help?
[18:20] <drivetrax> cellofellow,  click in the panel where your virtual desktops are .. that makes the panels and stuff go away, and then look
[18:20] <swmiller6> Paddy_EIRE: tried that yesterday did not owrk
[18:20] <filthpig> Bravewolf, and then I can restart gnome, or do I have to run upgrade from console? and also, the symlink.. will it still be around after reboot?
[18:20] <Bravewolf> filthpig: at this point you can begin the upgrade using the X interface or using "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[18:20] <filthpig> ah :)
[18:21] <fde> xomp: dmesg | grep NetworkManager <-- that return anything enlightening as to why?
[18:21] <thefish> Hasone, at this stage, ye i think it might - are you thinking of doing a reinstall or upgrading from it?
[18:21] <mccomb> Paddy_EIRE, okay... do you know if there's any other network manager than the gnome-network-manager and wicd?
[18:21] <xomp> fde, or atleast I don't think so haha, lsusb still shows the Compaq orinoco showing, but I'm not sure if its working as the green light isn't coming on.
[18:21] <Hasone> thinking of finishing the upgrade with it, thefish
[18:21] <monkeybritches> Hardy is fairly sound.
[18:21] <DShepherd> indeed
[18:21] <DShepherd> upgrade for me was good
[18:21] <xomp> fde, dmesg | grep NetworkManager retuned nothing just another prompt
[18:21] <Bravewolf> filthpig: the symlink will disapper after reboot. You can upgrade from Gnome of from Command Line. It should be indifferent.
[18:21] <thefish> Hasone, ok not a bad idea, spose you dont need wlan with that
[18:22] <gnuskool> evilbug: i have thus far only had 1 bug, to do with policykit unlocking the 'services' tab, other an that it works fine on my thinkpad laptop
[18:22] <Paddy_EIRE> mccomb: not sure..
[18:22] <filthpig> Bravewolf, sweetness, thanks
[18:22] <cgentry72> I noticed that tracker and tracker applet are in my startup programs, do i need this?
[18:22] <drivetrax> cellofellow,  -- I wanted an invisible cube.. with just windows in mid-air, but the panels and caps are set to a grid creating the cube, and the tray and panel.. and the grid will always show a square at the top and bottom, thin lines
[18:22] <filthpig> Bravewolf, urr I did not call -you- "sweetness", lol :P
[18:22] <Bravewolf> filthpig: you're welcome.
[18:22] <evilbug> gnuskool- i tried upgrading the day after it came out and i've only had trouble with it so i downgraded back to gutsy.
[18:22] <Solusian> Anyone knowledgeable on wifi issues? Please PM me. I have an issue where it used to work, but suddenly cannot acquire a network address anymore.
[18:22] <DShepherd> cgentry72, not of you dont want them to run at startup
[18:23] <Hasone> thefish: trying to burn it as we speak.
[18:23] <thefish> Hasone, coolio
[18:23] <cgentry72> DShepherd, do i need it at all?
[18:23] <evilbug> gnuskool- i was thinking maybe some problem with the download since the servers were stressed.
[18:23] <asizemore> hey, is upgrading ubuntu supported over ssh?
[18:23] <kuma> hi, how can i create a wireless network with my ubuntu hardy?
[18:23] <malcolmpdx> Looking to find out if hardy supports the PERC 5i controller.  Some forum posts from 2 years ago indicated some issues.
[18:23] <[Yogh]> Salutations !
[18:23] <fde> xomp: System > Administration > Network looks alright, and you have chosen the Wired Connection and configured it correctly via NetworkManager in the panel?
[18:23] <Cointoss> would this be the way to find out if theres no leading "/" ind $dir?    if [[ ! $dir=~m/^\// ]]; then ...
[18:23] <evilbug> gnuskool- so i'd just like to know if it's safe now,a week later,or should i wait for the next milestone.
[18:23] <Pici> malcolmpdx: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu-server ?
[18:23] <DShepherd> cgentry72, tracker indexes files so you can find them via the tracker search tool. if you dont care about it then leave it out. its not a need
[18:23] <malcolmpdx> Pici - no, I'll do that.  Thanks
[18:23] <asizemore> I need to upgrade ubuntu and my only connection so far is through SSH
[18:24] <fde> xomp: I have to guess now where exactly you are, so bare with me...
[18:24] <cgentry72> DShepherd, thanks
[18:24] <DShepherd> cgentry72, your welcome
[18:24] <fde> xomp: NetworkManager will let you use wpa_supplicant and friends to identify to the WAP...
[18:24] <xomp> fde, in "Network" i have only "eth0 Wired Connection" and "Point to Point Connection". I do not see the "wlan0" interface anymore.
[18:24] <Hasone> thefish: the downloader seems confused.
[18:24] <fde> xomp: Add it again  :)
[18:24] <thefish> Hasone, i need to go, but will try to get back in about 20 mins or so
[18:24] <openuser> what application use ubuntu 8.04 to configure nfs shared folders???
[18:24] <thefish> Hasone, downloader confused?
[18:24] <Hasone> thefish: alright.
[18:24] <gnuskool> evilbug: i'd say its safe, i read the howtoforge.com 'perfect upgrade gutsy to hardy' and it went smooth
[18:25] <xomp> fde, add what again? hehe
[18:25] <eth01> hiya
[18:25] <px> hi - can anyone help me with a google earth problem?
[18:25] <Hasone> thefish: it's DAP. and it says 99% done but the progress bar i less than that.
[18:25] <evilbug> gnuskool- i was just going to run the update manager to upgrade.
[18:25] <fde> xomp: The wireless!
[18:25] <asizemore> arrrgh
[18:25] <xomp> fde, ok, Fn+F2 here we go!
[18:26] <Konam> the nautilus generated thumbnails in Hardy suck! how can I fix that, thunar seems to do it just fine. How we shipped nautilus with such a drawback?
[18:26] <xomp> fde, ok, I pressed Fn+F2 and I do see wlan0 showing up in "Network" still
[18:26] <thefish> Hasone, never used that, couldnt say. You will probably get asked if you want to add the sources when you insert the cd, if not check out apt-cdrom :)
[18:26] <Hasone> thefish: aye-aye
[18:26] <swmiller6> XOMP
[18:27] <px> I'm having problems only being able to run some programs under sudo, is there any way to change this?
[18:27] <xomp> fde, when I press Fn+F2 lsusb shows this "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 049f:0033 Compaq Computer Corp. 802.11b Adapter [orinoco]", when I press Fn+F2 again it doesn't show in lsusb
[18:27] <xomp> swmiller6, yes?
[18:27] <asizemore> damnit, is it so hard to say yes or no?
[18:27] <swmiller6> xomp: press cntrl+F2 then type in nm-applet
[18:27] <Swiftfoxer> anyone know how I can fix this problem with sound mixing?
[18:27] <snask> px, man sudo and read what sudo is about..
[18:27] <Swiftfoxer> I have a feeling that 8.04's sound mixing is somewhat broken in 64bit
[18:28] <fde> xomp: Hmm, I'm not sure what that key combo does... but perhaps it was the prism2_usb card after all ... can you test that? sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and just change it to orinoco-cs and restart...
[18:28] <fde> xomp: ahh alt+f2! apple computer?
[18:28] <xomp> fde, nope, it's a compaq :)
[18:28] <drivetrax> in virtual
[18:28] <swmiller6> xomp: dunno know about apple maybe I missed something I thoght you were trying to get your network applet back
[18:29] <Finnish> What's wrong with my Evolution? It doesn't "know" the shortcut-addresses when typing them?
[18:29] <fde> xomp: weird... anyways... change the blacklist line to the orinoco modules... add both though, and _ in lsmod is - in that file.
[18:29] <xomp> fde, ok, I remove "blacklist prism2" and put "blacklist orinoco_usb" in it's place?
[18:29] <Solusian> Anyone knowledgeable on wifi issues? Please PM me. I have an issue where it used to work, but suddenly cannot acquire a network address anymore.
[18:29] <fde> xomp: I think it should be 2 lines "blacklist orinoco' ... and 'blacklist orinoco_cs' ... that at least got us started easier.
[18:30] <fde> xomp: prism2_usb... yes...
[18:30] <eXcAliBuR> i just installed 8.04 and missing a lot of packages... like c++ and stuff... is there a place to find the common ones that i need?
[18:30] <fde> xomp: ACTUALLY... you're doing prism2_usb or prism2-usb?
[18:30] <xomp> fde, I had "prims2_usb" blacklisted before
[18:31] <Barnose> I can't do anythig while chatting?
[18:31] <fde> xomp: check again lsmod | grep prism please ... if its there, we blacklisted the wrong thing... else ignore this line and add the orinoco stuff again  :)
[18:31] <drivetrax> prism2_usb
[18:31] <gnuskool> eXcAliBuR: synaptic package manager
[18:32] <xomp> fde, ok, I'm a bit confused hehe, lets pretend I haven't yet edited the blacklist yet and it still has "blacklist prism2_usb" in it. what should my next step be? hehe
[18:32] <fde> drivetrax: yes, but the actual module will be prism2-usb I think... the driver is prism2_usb
[18:32] <skywalker> hi
[18:32] <eXcAliBuR> gnuskool: i'm on command line only
[18:32] <fde> xomp: lsmod | grep prism <-- does that return anything?
[18:32] <gnuskool> eXcAliBuR: server install?
[18:32] <rwycuff> xomp:are you trying to get wifi on laptop working
[18:32] <eXcAliBuR> yuh
[18:32] <eXcAliBuR> i don't need desktop
[18:32] <BobCFC> eXcAliBuR, sudo apt-get build-essential
[18:33] <xomp> fde, it didn't return anything
[18:33] <fde> rwycuff: please don't confuse him.
[18:33] <xomp> rwycuff, yes lol
[18:33] <eXcAliBuR> thanks Bob
[18:33] <drivetrax> grep each name
[18:33] <rwycuff> fde: im not was helping him with this about 2 months back
[18:33] <agone> hello
[18:33] <px> agone, hello
[18:33] <fde> xomp: ok... then go ahead and type 'sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and change that to the read the 2 orinoco modules. orinoco_cs and orinoco itself... that should at least get us the USB device back...
[18:34] <eXcAliBuR> Bob: very nice package.. has what i need.. thank you :)
[18:34] <agone> does anybody have some troubles with french translation package servers ?
[18:34] <BobCFC> np
[18:34] <Gary_inNYC> hi, is tracker file indexing necessary for stability & performance, or is it only for its file search capability?
[18:34] <[Lowkey]> Can someone help me? Everytime I try to unrar a rar file it gives me this error: The filename "LstS02E07_GrY.part1.rar" indicates that this file is of type "RAR archive".  I have unrar installed and yesterday it worked fine. Please help.
[18:34] <fde> xomp: the wlan0 device back... without the kernel being confused again  :)
[18:34] <xomp> fde, ok, I did however lsmod all the names and only orinoco showed up
[18:34] <agone> try 7zip
[18:34] <arvind_khadri> the program 'yelp' crashes mysteriously with a segmentation fault...was happening in 7.10 too
[18:34] <[Lowkey]> ok
[18:34] <fde> xomp: it going bye bye when not using prism2_usb tells us that it's not orinoco, so that shouldn't be loading... hence blacklist them
[18:35] <adp> hi. I'm having problems with my ssh client. I can't slogin anywhere. when I turn on debug mode I get as far as  'SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received' and then the session hangs. any ideas?
[18:35] <fde> xomp: ok... blacklist that one only...
[18:35] <xomp> fde, ok, I blacklisted orinoco and orinoco_cs
[18:35] <Sake> is upgrading my system from ubuntu server 7.10 to 8.04 from the command line a good idea?
[18:35] <danbhfive> im trying to upgrade from gutsy to hardy, and I've been restarting the process a few times.  The first time, it seemed to be using the packages on the alternate cd, now it has stopped trying to use those packages.  How can I get the upgrader to use the cd?
[18:35] <Myrtti> Sake: depends on the commands you plan to use to do it
[18:35] <Morydd> since upgrading to hardy when I open the "network" dialog, it doesn't ask for password, and everything is greyed out.
[18:36] <fde> xomp: would seem orinoco_cs is used by prism2_usb if it's not showing up now... so remove that line from blacklist again, sorry.
[18:36] <px> snask:  i know a bit about sudo, i've installed google earth and it'll run but it'll only login to the server and show the "earth" if i run it under sudo, is there anyway to change this?
[18:36] <Myrtti> Morydd: press the unlock button
[18:36] <Sake> Myrtti: so what's the safest bet? I heard I can just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace gutsy with hardy, the do apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:36] <agone> it is incorporate in hardy cd now I think
[18:36] <brane> i read story about sbackup and conclude that is similar to restore point in XP ....
[18:36] <Myrtti> Sake: that's about the worse you could do
[18:36] <Myrtti> ;-=
[18:36] <xomp> fde, no worries, it is removed.  Got a keyboard problem. The keyboard is a Swedish Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1.0A. (The Wireless version is in the keyboard list, but doesn't work with mine.) They keyboard itself works, including Swedish characters and all, but I get an annoying message about XKB config at login or when chaging keyboards. Anyone who could help me get rid of it?
[18:37] <Myrtti> Sake: sudo aptitude install updata-manager-core
[18:37] <xomp> fde, ok, brb
[18:37] <Gary_inNYC> what's the benefit of tracker file indexing?
[18:37] <agone> yes you can replace source list entries
[18:37] <valentin_> Hello guys!
[18:37] <Myrtti> Sake: sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:37]  * fde is going to be mad if the wireless isn't working now  >:|
[18:37] <Bravewolf> I'm going to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04. I disabled all the additional repos (eg. Medibuntu, innotek, canonical partner) and I cleaned the package status using "apt-get clean" and "apt-get autoremove". Now I have some non official Ubuntu packages, such as mplayer (medibuntu), ffmpeg (medibuntu), skype, googleearth, canon cups driver, virtualbox. Can I begin the upgrade or I have to do some more actions? Thanks!
[18:37] <peeps[work]> when i come out of suspend on my laptop, i get a notification telling me that suspend has failed, even though everything seems fine.
[18:37] <snask> px, ow, i see, well.. maby you started google earth with sudu the first time.. and sudo created the google earth conf files..
[18:37] <mymines> hello
[18:37] <gnuskool> eXcAliBuR: this is a solid server build here, i used for my webdev server http://howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts page 4 has gcc and other stuff to install at the command line
[18:37] <Sake> Myrtti: first the update-manager-core then do-release-upgrade?
[18:37] <Myrtti> Sake: yes
[18:37] <manifest_> when i was
[18:37] <Sake> Myrtti: k, trying. Thanks!
[18:37] <[Lowkey]> Can someone help me? Everytime I try to unrar a rar file it gives me this error: The filename "LstS02E07_GrY.part1.rar" indicates that this file is of type "RAR archive".  I have unrar installed and yesterday it worked fine. When I click the actual Icon it turns white and is recognized as an HTML file.. Please help.
[18:37] <Myrtti> Sake: you don't have to edit sources.list
[18:38] <px> snask: is there anyway to undo that?
[18:38] <Myrtti> !repeat | [Lowkey]
[18:38] <[Lowkey]> aw thanks.
[18:38] <arvind_khadri> the program 'yelp' crashes mysteriously with a segmentation fault...was happening in 7.10 too anyone to help
[18:38] <snask> px, yes, just sudo chmod nick:nick -R .googleconfmap
[18:38] <jack_>  anyone know how to record onscreen audio?
[18:38] <TwoD> Even resetting keyboard layout to standard values throws up the XKB config error.
[18:38] <[Lowkey]> !patience | myrtti
[18:38] <Myrtti> arvind_khadri: elaborate a bit more and you might get more answers and don't have to repeat your questions
[18:39] <jack_> nobody know?
[18:39] <Myrtti> [Lowkey]: thanks, but you're the one who needs it ;-)
[18:39] <jack_> :S
[18:39] <gnuskool> eXcAliBuR: go here http://howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts
[18:39] <asizemore> hello, is there anyway to update ubuntu through SSH???
[18:39] <[Lowkey]> you think so :
[18:39] <arvind_khadri> Myrtti, ok when i strace yelp i can see the crash with a segmentation fault....
[18:39] <peeps[work]> asizemore, you can use apt-get over ssh
[18:40] <xomp> fde, looks like we got the usb back \o/
[18:40] <jack_> nobody know?
[18:40] <jack_>  anyone know how to record onscreen audio?
[18:40] <Myrtti> asizemore: sure, if the computer you're connecting to has sshd running
[18:40] <david_-_-> when i done sudo apt-get autoremove as it asked me too then after it did this poped up ''0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.'' how do i find the 7 that are not upgraded and then upgrade them?
[18:40] <jack_> pleeease
[18:40] <peeps[work]> on*screen* audio?
[18:40] <jack_> yeah
[18:40] <fde> xomp: Ok, does it show up when you right click NetworkManager's applet, the two computer thingers in the panel and go to Edit Wireless Networks?
[18:40] <jack_> like whats playing onscreen
[18:41] <danbhfive> david_-_-: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade might work
[18:41] <jack_> audacity usually does it, but i can't get it to work
[18:41] <px> snask: sorry to pester you, i've just tried that command and it says invalid mode 'nick:nick'
[18:41] <xomp> fde, yes
[18:41] <david_-_-> danbhfive: im in hardy now
[18:41] <Myrtti> px: replace nick with your username
[18:41] <jack_> :(
[18:41] <fde> xomp: Configure it correctly there, and you should be ready to rock...
[18:41] <snask> px, did you install it using sudo?
[18:41] <px> AH !
[18:41] <px> i did install it under sudo
[18:41] <xomp> fde, ok, is it hard to configure? I'm lost when it comes to that
[18:42] <danbhfive> david_-_-: ok, well, im in gutsy, but I didn't think apt changed that much
[18:42] <Myrtti> px: or the with the username you're trying to use it to
[18:42] <DexterF> hi
[18:42] <TwoD> david_-_-,  apt-get is the same in Hardy as it was in gutsy
[18:42] <artti> Which program i can use to mount .mds file?
[18:42] <fde> xomp: It shouldn't be no... do you have a WEP key for the wireless?
[18:42] <DexterF> will the 8.04 live cd try to auto-assemble raid arrays from 0xFD partitions?
[18:42] <xomp> fde, i have an unprotected wireless network so I should be able to just enter it's SSID and connect right?
[18:43] <fde> xomp: yup...
[18:43] <david_-_-> TwoD: i know this i never said it wasnt.
[18:43] <Solusian> Hey everyone, my networkmanager suddenly won't acquire a network address anymore. Any suggestions what I can do to rectify this issue?
[18:43] <fde> xomp: Name is just whatever you wish to call this connection, like "Home" vs "Work" or "Internet Cafe" etc... so you can recognize it from the list that will show up...
[18:43] <david_-_-> TwoD: when i done sudo apt-get autoremove as it asked me too then after it did this poped up ''0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.'' how do i find the 7 that are not upgraded and then upgrade them?
[18:43] <Solusian> (On a wired connection momentarily)
[18:44] <danbhfive> david_-_-: so that command didnt work?
[18:44] <TwoD> david_-_-, I just thought you were asking, judging by what you said to danbhfive
[18:44] <xomp> fde, cool, is there a way I can scan for networks just to test if this is working?
[18:44] <Myrtti> david_-_-: sudo aptitude upgrade
[18:44] <Blackhorn> hi
[18:44] <fde> xomp: If it sees any, it should list them in the left click menu afaik
[18:44] <danbhfive> david_-_-: I think I got confused by what you said, im sorry
[18:45] <TwoD> david_-_-, I don't think you can upgrade those because there are no versions for Hardy yet. I get the same thing.
[18:45] <Morydd>  anyone else have an idea why the network dialog would be greyed out?
[18:45] <Myrtti> Morydd: click the unlock-button
[18:45] <Solusian> Morydd: No unlock function available?
[18:45] <david_-_-> danbhfive: eh it happens lol but that is the command to upgrade to hardy
[18:45] <jack_> heeelp
[18:45] <Morydd> Solusian: no, that's greyed out as well
[18:45] <jack_>  anyone know how to record onscreen audio?
[18:45] <chazco> Hi... FF3 is too unstable for use currently... is there a correct way to downgrade to FF2?
[18:45] <david_-_-> TwoD: i know and thanks
[18:45] <shthap3ns> if i installed xubuntu-desktop using apt-get on the server version of 8.04, how can i remove it?
[18:45] <xomp> fde, when I left click I only see "Connect to other wireless network" > "Create new wireless network" > "Connect to protected network" and "Manual config" that normal?
[18:45] <Discipulus> before I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.04 I could click a link in an email in Thunderbird and it would open the link in a new tab in Firefox for me
[18:46] <Discipulus> now it doesn't open a window or a new tab or anything and I can't find anything in the preferences to change it
[18:46] <fde> chazco: search for Firefox ... there is a firefox-2.0 I think
[18:46] <Discipulus> any help?
[18:46] <Solusian> Morydd: It may look grayed out, but did you try it regardless of that?
[18:46] <filthpig> Bravewolf, didn't work :(
[18:46] <DexterF> !raid
[18:46] <chazco> fde - Installed it, but FF3 is still taking over most stuff
[18:46] <TwoD> david_-_-, lost xmms because it's no longer supported in Hardy, update manager said the same thing then. Loved the xmms interface, but the xmms2 clients will have to do hehe
[18:46] <Morydd> Solusian: yes.
[18:46] <tanath> my update manager keeps saying my package infomormation was last updated 8 days ago, even after updating. how can i fix this?
[18:46] <Myrtti> Discipulus: there's a button in the preferences to get to about:config of thunderbird
[18:46] <tanath> it causes an alert in the system area about it too
[18:47] <danbhfive> david_-_-: ah, I see, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt really upgrade to hardy, it does a distribution upgrade.  Sometimes packages are held back because they arent just newer versions, they are part of a new distribution.  SO, that command can upgrade your version of hardy.  I think  :p
[18:47] <fde> xomp: I believe so, yes... Create new wireless network is likely what you want for now...
[18:47] <tanath> *system tray
[18:47] <fde> xomp: Connect to other should give you a list I'd guess... but it doesn't let me look around those areas... heh
[18:47] <xomp> fde, ok, will try hehe
[18:47] <dangens> hi, i have problems to get WPA working with any of my wireless adapters, WEP works fine, WPA under windows works too. firmware version is properly updated. any hints?
[18:48] <Nergar> hello
[18:48] <Nergar> im trying to compile an app but it is asking for wand, what is wand???
[18:48] <fde> xomp: I'll be doing this myself later actually... so this is good for me... I know the theory behind it all, but this is a desktop, and so I just use wired...
[18:48] <SirDidi> knows anybody a shooter for the consol?
[18:48] <xomp> fde, sounds good :) Thanks for all the help!
[18:49] <Bravewolf> filthpig: ??? what happened exactly?
[18:49] <fde> xomp: Tell me if you get it connecting... but that should be all now, just a matter of getting it to connect...
[18:49] <filthpig> Bravewolf, same error as before, / does not have enouch free space
[18:49] <TwoD> tanath, stupid question: but you have a working internet connection? ;) You could also try forcing an update via "sudo apt-get update".
[18:49] <DexterF> SirDidi: I remember quake was kinda ported to aalib iirc...
[18:49] <xomp> fde, ok, can I do it now even though I'm hard wired? I don't want to drop my connection here hehe
[18:50] <SirDidi> DexterF, i mean a shotter with ascii
[18:50] <fde> xomp: yup... when you add the connection, you will be able to switch to switch between them
[18:50] <csais> should i go with kubuntu or ubuntu? just an opinion
[18:50] <Ghostinthedarkne> can someone help me with a " Unable to build the vmmon module. " Error I keep getting ?
[18:50] <thefish> Hasone, hows it going mate?
[18:50] <manifest_> oGC
[18:50] <DexterF> SirDidi: aalib is a libraray that renders grahpics output in a terminal. or do you mean something else?
[18:50] <Morydd> any other ideas?
[18:50] <Hasone> thefish: it didn't burn the first time. it just finished burning.
[18:50] <fde> csais: that is a bad question for so many reasons... but if in doubt use "Ubuntu"... it is what started it all  :)
[18:50] <tanath> TwoD, i'm on the box now :)
[18:51] <csais> fde: thanks man
[18:51] <thefish> Hasone, ok cool - hopefully some other folks will help out as well :)
[18:51] <tanath> TwoD, i've updated the package list many times. this is a persistent issue
[18:51] <fde> csais: you can always install 'kubuntu-desktop' later if you'd like... it's not really an _or_ question
[18:51] <tanath> TwoD, started a few days after i upgraded to hardy. a day after release i believe
[18:51] <artti> Need help. Can't mount .mdf or .mds file. What program i should use?
[18:52] <Bravewolf> filthpig: is there enough free space in your home? you have to find a place with enough free space then you can create the symbolic link there
[18:52] <fde> artti: no idea... what are those files assosiated with?
[18:52] <tanath> TwoD, i've tried changing mirrors too
[18:52] <Ulmanen> Is there ANY other way to boost your volume than putting the Master channel on alsamixer to 50?
[18:52] <milly1234> hello, I know it might not be a huge issue but when I have compiz enabled I have this odd graphical glitch were if a admin password dialog comes up when I put the password in correctly and the dialog goes away it doesn't redraw the screen other then were the desired application the dialog started is put, the rest of the screen stays darkened unless I do something liek drag a window all over the screen or activate the cube
[18:52] <xomp> fde, I don't think it will connect to the wifi network, it stopped churning the little globe thing and I'm still on hard wired :P
[18:52] <thefish> artti, i think theres a mdf2iso app that you can convert to iso if you want
[18:52] <brane> What is good firewall for 7.10 ?
[18:52] <artti> fde, somekind disk image
[18:52] <Bravewolf> filthpig: I don't know exactly how much disk space is needed
[18:52] <Morydd> urg
[18:52] <TwoD> tanath, hmm, seem weird. Have you added any repositories lately? You know Hardy upgrade disables 3rd party repos. Maybe check and see if you need to enable them again?
[18:52] <filthpig> Bravewolf, my home has 60+ GB free space...
[18:52] <fde> xomp: Did you choose the Wireless connection from the applicable list?
[18:52] <dgts123> i downloaded the ati driver, but how do i start the setup? (it's a .run file)
[18:53] <artti> thefish, mdf2iso says unknown format
[18:53] <david_-_-> danbhfive: ah thanks the code you gave does upgrade the 7 packs i needed.
[18:53] <Hasone> how can I tell if it's registering the cd?
[18:53] <Discipulus> Myrtti, I got there, what settings do I need to change?
[18:53] <danbhfive> david_-_-: np
[18:53] <fde> artti: 'somekind' being the operative word... _what_ kind?
[18:53] <tanath> TwoD, nope. i have 3rd party repos, but i've had them for some time. they get reenabled after upgrade anyway
[18:53] <Hasone> since I cant' browse the windows using the gui
[18:53] <milly1234> I was trying to google it but I am stumped as to what to even google
[18:53] <filthpig> Bravewolf, it needs approx 1,4 gb and I have 1,1 or 1,2 free on /
[18:53] <thefish> artti, have you tried iat
[18:53] <DexterF> is there a developer channel? ubuntu+1 forwards me here
[18:53] <TwoD> brane, you've already got iptables which acts like a firewall. For an easy GUI try firestarter.
[18:53] <xomp> fde, I chose "Connect to wireless network" and typed in the SSID of my wifi connection and it tried for a minute then just stopped trying hehe
[18:53] <Hasone> I don't think the cd mounted.
[18:53] <Myrtti> Discipulus: search for browser
[18:54] <dgts123> anyone know how to start a .run file? (ati driver)
[18:54] <brane> thanks !
[18:54] <artti> thefish, haven't heard such thing yet, i try.
[18:54] <Hasone> thefish: how do I make the cd mount if it hasn't? how do I know if it hasn't?
[18:54] <fde> xomp: ugh... that's SUPPOSED to do it... file bugs against ubuntu-restricted-modules or linux-ubuntu-modules please
[18:54] <Bravewolf> filthpig: and do you have some more free space elsewhere?
[18:55] <TwoD> tanath, I'm not that experienced with apt-get problems to say what could be wrong... sorry.
[18:55] <thefish> Hasone, "mount" will show you all the mounted stuff
[18:55] <Pici> DexterF: There are ubuntu develiper channels, but they arent support channels
[18:55] <fde> dgts123: chmod +x whatever.run && ./whatever.run
[18:55] <xomp> fde, ok, brb smoke!
[18:55] <tanath> TwoD, thanks anyway
[18:55] <thefish> Hasone, "sudo mount -o,loop /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom" will mount it if its not mounted
[18:55] <dgts123> fde, thx, i tend to forget that +x...
[18:55] <DexterF> Pici: well, nobody can answer my question here I guess, that's a developer thing rather
[18:55] <IdanM> e
[18:55] <shthap3ns> can anyone recommend a good backup strategy for a fileserver serving small files?
[18:55] <dimitree> How can i find broken packages ? the system came up with such a msg, but when i go in Synaptic and chose Fix broken packages, the apply button is grayed out ? Did this error fixed itself ?
[18:55] <Pici> DexterF: Check here for the one pertaining to what you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[18:56] <asizemore> Myrtti: I mean like, go from 6.06 to 6.10 to 7.04
[18:56] <fde> dimitree: apt-get -f install
[18:56] <milly1234> when using compiz-fusion in hard, or gutsy does anyone else notice a small shadow in the upper left corner, sometimes I see a 1 pixel wide and ab out 20 pixel down area up there that the shadow comes off of
[18:56] <lemonhead> hi
[18:56] <filthpig> Bravewolf, as I said, my /home has 60+ GB free space..
[18:56] <IdanM> Hi, what is the diffrence between irc.ubuntu.com and the ubuntu channel on freenode
[18:56] <Hasone> if the thing can't recognize the cd, will it loop forever?
[18:56] <milly1234> IdanM, nothing, they are the same
[18:56] <tanath> TwoD, i may have just fixed it. there was a 3rd party repo that gave a 404
[18:56] <fde> dimitree: uhh... sudo apt-get -f install ... sorry
[18:57] <Myrtti> asizemore: sudo aptitude install update-manager-core; sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:57] <fde> IdanM: One is a network, one is a channel on that network.
[18:57] <TwoD> tanath, ah, anything you've got installed which uses it?
[18:57] <dimitree> fde 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:57] <tanath> TwoD, i just removed it
[18:57] <tanath> TwoD, was tribler
[18:57] <Ghostinthedarkne> can someone help me with a " Unable to build the vmmon module. " Error I keep getting ? I think there is a problem with the compiler ???
[18:57] <fde> dimitree: no errors outputted?
[18:57] <karoo> hi
[18:57] <thefish> Hasone, /msg nickserv register help :)
[18:57] <dimitree> fde yes
[18:58] <TwoD> tanath, what's that?
[18:58] <Myrtti> Ghostinthedarkne: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[18:58] <Hasone> thefish: done
[18:58] <artti> thefish, how i install iat?
[18:58] <tanath> TwoD, p2p app that combines torrents with social networking
[18:58] <fde> dimitree: yes there were errors? if there weren't, then it fixed it automagically  :)
[18:58] <thefish> artti, sudo apt-get install iat?
[18:58] <dimitree> fde then it's fixed thanks : ) the error was i belive about skype.common package or something
[18:58] <jar> can anybody help with wine - plays a game fine under one user, when switch - the same game plays, but is jerky and slow
[18:58] <TwoD> tanath, that's an odd combination lol. Doesn't most p2p users want to stay anonymous hehe
[18:58] <thefish> Hasone, check in the freenode main window, you will see details on how to register your nic
[18:58] <Ghostinthedarkne> myrtti says " E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:58] <Ghostinthedarkne> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:58] <Hasone> the last line on mount is /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro, loop = /dev/loop0)
[18:59] <thefish> Hasone, that means its mounted
[18:59] <Hasone> good, good.
[18:59] <fde> Ghostinthedarkne: IS another process using it? ps -e
[18:59] <Ali_ix> jar make sure the compositing are the same for both users (compiz)
[18:59] <Myrtti> Ghostinthedarkne: do you have other package management software on?
[18:59] <artti> thefish, yes that helped, first i tried to find that package. =] Thanks.
[18:59] <Myrtti> Ghostinthedarkne: if you do, close them
[18:59] <therion> Where i can find DRI2 drivers precompiled?
[18:59] <thefish> artti, no worries :)
[18:59] <TwoD> dimitree, try sudo apt-get check and see what it says
[18:59] <tanath> TwoD, or rather, adds basic social networking to torrents. you aren't really any less anonymous, it has it's bonuses. you can add 'friends' and boost each other's downloads for instance
[18:59] <jar> ALI - wow - i thought about it, but never looked into it - thanks for direction!
[19:00] <cvd-pr> Hey, is there any tool to make a .mp3 from a video?
[19:00] <Carbonflux> is there anything like komparator for gnome file browser ?
[19:00] <Hasone> thefish: it's not givin me any sort of info in the main freenode window.
[19:00] <eXcAliBuR> is ISPconfig discouraged?
[19:00] <Myrtti> Carbonflux: what does it do?
[19:00] <Ghostinthedarkne> yeah had to kill a process
[19:00] <dimitree> TwoD nothing at all
[19:00] <Hasone> thefish: how do I use it to do the upgrades, now? I'm goona try the update manager=
[19:00] <Carbonflux> it compares two dirs and syncs them Myrtti
[19:00] <Bravewolf> filthpig: probably update-manager uses /var/cache, but i'm not sure
[19:00] <thefish> Hasone, not a biggie, just useful to have your nick registered
[19:00] <thefish> Hasone, ok we need the cdrom in your software sources
[19:00] <tanath> Carbonflux, something like gnome-commander?
[19:00] <milly1234> I have this odd problem with compiz-fusion with a small box with a shadow behind it in my upper left corner, did it in gutsy and hardy, it is a similer problem as this person:forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=7306
[19:00] <Ali_ix> Carbonflux: cool, i needed something like this
[19:00] <ner1> hllo
[19:01] <Carbonflux> tanath, is that in repo's ?
[19:01] <Hasone> thefish: lead the way. how do I do that?
[19:01] <tanath> Carbonflux, yep
[19:01] <Myrtti> !info gnome-commander
[19:01] <Carbonflux> thanks :)
[19:01] <dimitree> o well i guess there's nothing wrong going on :) maby ti fixed after i restarted
[19:01] <TwoD> tanath, ah.
[19:01] <thefish> Hasone, no popups asking if you want to install software etc?
[19:01] <dimitree> thanks guys :)
[19:01] <Carbonflux> I want to use my gnome bookmarks
[19:01] <evil_tech> did the oem install option get nixed?
[19:01] <Hasone> thefish: no.
[19:01] <tanath> TwoD, also does suggestions for things to download
[19:01] <TwoD> dimitree, do you know which packages need fixing?
[19:02] <fde> TwoD: already fixed... he said skype-common I think.
[19:02] <thefish> Hasone, ok, lets change it to just use cdrom then - I dont know the "official" way to do it but if you go to SYSTEM > ADMIN > SOFTW. SOURCES
[19:02] <TwoD> tanath, hmm, could be useful. But for a torrent client, I don't think anything beats the [web]gui of µTorrent ;)
[19:02] <artti> thefish, iat say that image is broken
[19:02] <Carbonflux> Ali_ix, ya, I am trying to sync a local dir with a ftp dir, I have everything book marked in gnome file browser, if that does not work I will use the KDE tool tho
[19:02] <TwoD> fde, ah didn't see that
[19:03] <tanath> TwoD, i'm partial to deluge
[19:03] <Hasone> it says: was not able to install all the updates. run a partial upgrade, to intsall as many updates as possible.
[19:03] <tanath> TwoD, utorrent needs wine, no?
[19:03] <Hasone> thefish: doing that now.
[19:03] <thefish> Hasone, then on there, add the cdrom
[19:03] <filthpig> Bravewolf, oh well, I'll go for a total reinstall.. and I'll also try out the kde4 remix of kubuntu ;) now I just have to get my ext hdd to awake properly... just my luck to buy an ext hdd that has a special hibarnation mode that does not work that well with linux... :(
[19:03] <Hasone> software sources won't open, thefish
[19:03] <thefish> artti, maybe it is broken? Not sure from here mate :(
[19:03]  * fde thinks Ubuntu needs to change more defaults to match things maintained in launchpad ... as sort of a bonus for using it.
[19:03] <Ali_ix> Carbonflux: may be irrevelant, but checkout conduit later, it is a nice, fast-growing sync platform
[19:04] <Carbonflux> Ali_ix, thank you I will
[19:04] <thefish> Hasone, ok, then we do it the manly way... open a terminal, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[19:04] <TwoD> tanath, yeah, but it runs very smoothly. Well. I do have some problems when I'm using more than one screen, but that applies to more than µTorrent...
[19:04] <cvd-pr> ?
[19:04] <fde> (so things like Exaile, Deluge, AWN use etc etc)
[19:05] <Hasone> thefish: done
[19:05] <tanath> fde, bah @ exaile. amarok FTW
[19:05] <eXcAliBuR> i need a package similar to this --> libtermcap-devel
[19:05] <eXcAliBuR> but my 8.04 doesn't find any
[19:05] <tanath> fde, even Listen is better than Exaile
[19:05] <fde> tanath: haha... exaile = amarok for gtk  :D
[19:05] <tanath> fde, no, no it's not. not even close :P
[19:05] <fde> tanath: Listen is a cluttered interface.
[19:05] <h00k> fde: is exaile complete?
[19:05] <Swiftfoxer> hmm exaile eh
[19:05] <fde> tanath: It's a stated goal... heh
[19:05] <^root^> i have Add/Remove running some downloads, those are taking about 18 hours and i dont have much time, what if i cancell it here while its downloading? Is there a way i can resume when i get back home?
[19:06] <thefish> Hasone, then add the cdrom with "sudo apt-cdrom -d/mnt/cdrom add" *i think*
[19:06] <tanath> fde, i'll give you that ;)
[19:06] <thefish> Hasone, no, just apt-cdrom add
[19:06] <thefish> Hasone, that will ask to enter cdrom and then press enter
[19:06] <Hasone> thefish: yep
[19:06] <Ali_ix> ^root^:  not y add/remove, but if you use synaptics instead, you can save markings for later resume
[19:06] <Swiftfoxer> so exaile is the best non kde player for ubuntu eh?
[19:07] <fde> h00k: no
[19:07] <tanath> ^root^, try another mirror? use Select Best Mirror function?
[19:07] <legthge> quick question: is it S99xdm to K01xdm or K1xdm?
[19:07] <Hasone> it's doi ng some sort of magic
[19:07] <Swiftfoxer> (kinda like amarok, but not having hotkeys is a pain :(
[19:07] <^root^> tanath:  its not the mirror, its the stuff :P :d
[19:07] <Hasone> thefish: done.
[19:07] <fde> Swiftfoxer: That is a personal preference... I just think it'd be neat...
[19:07] <^root^> Ali_ix: hmmm :( :'(
[19:07] <^root^> seems like i will have to leave my lappi at home...
[19:07] <Hasone> thefish: now what?
[19:07] <tanath> ^root^, you sure there aren't faster mirrors? did you check?
[19:07] <thefish> Hasone, ok now i think it may be an idea to disable all the other sources, so open that up in your text editor and comment out all the deb... lines apart from the cdrom one
[19:07] <Hasone> ok.
[19:08] <Ali_ix> ^root^: put in sleep mode, or just freeze teh app
[19:08] <fde> Swiftfoxer: Would give projects motivation to use Launchpad also, so it'd get more use from all the Ubuntu users.
[19:08] <^root^> tanath: my connection is giving the best speed it can, after that mirrors doesnt matter....
[19:08] <Hasone> what's the comment character I need, thefish? //?
[19:08] <^root^> Ali_ix: sleep like i sleep? :P, how?
[19:08] <Swiftfoxer> fde: isn't launchpad a bug reporting site, fde?
[19:08] <tanath> ^root^, by default, packages are cached, so you should be able to 'resume' in the sense that you won't have to redownload cached packages
[19:08] <Ali_ix> Hasone: where? in shell script? #
[19:08] <tanath> ^root^, ah
[19:08] <Ali_ix> ^root^: sleep, standby mode for laptops
[19:08] <thefish> Hasone, just put a # in front
[19:09] <fde> Swiftfoxer: No, that is just one of its features.... launchpad.net at the top gives a list of other modules...
[19:09] <h00k> fde: I wasn't sure
[19:09] <^root^> tanath: no, but what about the packages that are in queue? are that cacjed as well?
[19:09] <thefish> Hasone, need to go again, but once thats all done, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade again
[19:09] <Hasone> thefish: okay. will you be back?
[19:09] <^root^> Ali_ix: you mean like hibernate? but that would mean cancellation of the app, wont it?
[19:09] <Ali_ix> ^root^: in sleep mode, the system will ower off exect for RAM modules, then you can recover quickly to power on mode
[19:09] <Swiftfoxer> fde oh btw you using 64bit ubuntu?
[19:09] <h00k> fde: I'm gonna try it anyway :) (exaile)
[19:09] <fde> Swiftfoxer: nope, sorry
[19:09] <tanath> ^root^, you'll have to retell it what you want to do. if you're just upgrading, that shouldn't be a problem. but it won't remember what you wanted to be done
[19:09] <gamerguy2k8> hi everyone
[19:09] <Ali_ix> ^root^: no need to close apps in sleep mode
[19:09] <Ulmanen> Is there ANY other way to boost your volume than putting the Master channel on alsamixer to 50?
[19:09] <Swiftfoxer> fde: then 32bit ubuntu?
[19:10] <^root^> Ali_ix: and that sleep mode is done by "Suspend" in "System -> Quit" ?
[19:10] <fde> Swiftfoxer: Nope, 48  ;)
[19:10] <Swiftfoxer> what does that even mean
[19:10] <bolle> When i updated to Ubuntu 8.04 the sound now sounds like in a metall can. What can i do to fix this?
[19:10] <thefish> Hasone, back for now :)
[19:10] <Ali_ix> ^root^: yeah.
[19:10] <thefish> hows the update there?
[19:11] <Hasone> 0 update, 0 installed, 0 to eliminate and 321 not updated
[19:11] <fde> Swiftfoxer: No idea, but Ubuntu only supports 32bit and 64bit... guess it could mean it waste half a clock cycle? heh
[19:11] <thefish> Hasone, mm ok
[19:11] <^root^> Ali_ix: so all i would have to do, would to to suspend it, and then when i get back put the cable back and put it to wake?
[19:11] <dicknose> can any help me to reinstall ubuntu on teh com;puter
[19:11] <thefish> Hasone, whats the output of lsb_release -c
[19:12] <Ali_ix> ^root^: yes, you can also hibernate it if you want keep battery
[19:12] <Hasone> Codename:          hardy
[19:12] <thefish> Hasone, ok cool
[19:12] <artti> So, now i need help installing Winrar(linux). There is file Makefile... how i install winrar?
[19:12] <Swiftfoxer> fde: still doesn't make sense.
[19:12] <jar> help? only tvtime sees my capture card ok, but it cannot record. is there a workaround to record off it?
[19:12] <thefish> Hasone, i will try to help with your wireless then, lets see about that
[19:12] <Ghostinthedarkne> myrtti I ran the download and it looked like it installed the module right but when I run the installer again it gives me the same.. Unable to build the vmmon module.
[19:12] <Hasone> i think my system is stuck, parts of it think it's hardy and parts of it don't.
[19:12] <Ali_ix> dicknose: what is the problem? backup your files, go ahead and reinstall it
[19:12] <fde> Swiftfoxer: Was a joke... ugh
[19:12] <thefish> Hasone, cat /etc/issue?
[19:12] <Hasone> thefish: okay. but you're gonna have to baby me through this one
[19:12] <dicknose> how to backup my files'
[19:12] <Swiftfoxer> fde: I can see that, it just didn't make sense to me though.
[19:13] <sylar_> where to find logs to this channel?
[19:13] <Hasone> Ubuntu 8.04 /n /l blank line
[19:13] <kindofabuzz> arti just sudo apt-get install unrar
[19:13] <Chapai> issue.net
[19:13] <Ali_ix> dicknose: copy to another hard drive or write on DVD/CD
[19:13] <Hasone> \n \l, sorry.
[19:13] <^root^> Ali_ix: thats what i was thinking, Hibernation is better solution, and i guess that would do the task, and if it didnt, i would "su you" ("su" on shell) :P :d ;)
[19:13] <thefish> Hasone, all good
[19:13] <Ali_ix> ^root^: ;)
[19:13] <Swiftfoxer> fde: its just that I have this problem with the soundmixer not working properly it seems
[19:13] <thefish> Hasone, the problems now are that you cant open nautilus etc and no wireless?
[19:13] <Hasone> thefish: okay. remember, I am now but an extension that types stuff
[19:13] <Ali_ix> dicknose: the most iortant section is your /home partion/directory
[19:13] <Hasone> thefish: exactly.
[19:14] <^FaLcO^> hello
[19:14] <Chapai> sylar_, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[19:14] <dicknose> how to back up my house partition/directory???
[19:14] <Uplink> why i get no sound on youtube videos???
[19:14] <sylar_> Chapal: under which category?
[19:14] <thefish> Hasone, ok cool - you dont know what type of wireless card you have?
[19:14] <Ghostinthedarkne> can someone help me with a " Unable to build the vmmon module. " Error I keep getting ? I think there is a problem with the compiler ??? I downloaded the essentials but same issue
[19:14] <sylar_> Chapai: under which category?
[19:14] <Hasone> nope. we can probably find out, though. some sort of intel mojo.
[19:14] <Chapai> its by date sylar_ this channel us ubuntu
[19:15] <Ali_ix> dicknose: check these: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087, http://www.debianadmin.com/backup-and-restore-your-ubuntu-system-using-sbackup.html
[19:15] <Uplink> why i get no sound on youtube videos???
[19:15] <Chapai> Uplink, install libflashsupport
[19:15] <Uplink> ty :D
[19:15] <david_-_-> is there a command in the terminal i can type in to let me see if anyone has connected to my computer or tried to?
[19:15] <dicknose> thx Ali_ix
[19:15] <dicknose> i backup my home now
[19:15] <Hasone> i can't remember if gnash has had any upgrades recently.
[19:15] <Chapai> w, finger, who david_-_-
[19:15] <Swiftfoxer> Chapai: I can't have sound on flash if audacious runs at the same time
[19:15] <fde> Swiftfoxer: Wasn't anything to do with that... heh.. if Volume Control applet is turned up, and right click > Open Volume Control on the same applet and turning Front up doesn't do it, idk
[19:15] <Konam> no one has an idea of how to solve the nautilus thumbnail issue?
[19:15] <Ali_ix> david_-_-: "w" for already connected users, and LOGS for tries
[19:16] <fde> Swiftfoxer: If those are all up, then that's max I'm afraid.
[19:16] <thefish> Hasone, ok thats good
[19:16] <Swiftfoxer> fde: I think its an issue with the sound mixer...
[19:16] <moeman>  /ignore #ubuntu-classroom CRAP NOTICES SNOTES CTCPS JOINS PARTS QUITS KICKS MODES WALLOPS NICKS DCC DCCMSGS CLIENTNOTICES CLIENTCRAP CLIENTERRORS HILIGHTS
[19:16] <Hasone> thefish: if want you do, tell me you can how to find out especifically. I forgot.
[19:16] <Chapai> Swiftfoxer, i had the same problem with vlc install libflashsupport hopefully you get sound back
[19:16] <Swiftfoxer> my pal said that the switch from ESD to PulseAudio or something
[19:16] <thefish> Hasone, lspci should give you some clue
[19:16] <fde> Swiftfoxer: That is a frontend to the sound mixer... did you check "Open Volume Control" ?
[19:16] <david_-_-> Ali_ix:  thanks i did w and it is showing two of the same user name.
[19:16] <Swiftfoxer> libflashsupport eh?
[19:17] <Swiftfoxer> fde all my volume bars are maxed out
[19:17] <Chapai> yep Swiftfoxer
[19:17] <thefish> Hasone, try sudo apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r`-generic
[19:17] <Swiftfoxer> okay lemme try later after I'm done installing exaile
[19:17] <Swiftfoxer> thanks
[19:17] <Hasone> intel corporation PR/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection (rev 05)
[19:17] <Hasone> PRO
[19:17] <david_-_-> Ali_ix: i did LOGS and it sayes bash : LOGS command not found
[19:17] <Ali_ix> david_-_-: check the FROM column in results, if it is an IP they are connected from outside
[19:17] <fde> Swiftfoxer: Then that is max  :/
[19:17] <Uplink> im still getting no sound
[19:18] <TelnetManta>  anyone noticed that locate doesnt workin 8.04?
[19:18] <Uplink> i just installed the lib
[19:18] <Hasone> thefish: intel corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection (rev 05)
[19:18] <dicknose> ping test
[19:18] <Ali_ix> david_-_-: sorry, by LOGS i mean log files, ssh log files or gdm logs
[19:18] <Swiftfoxer> fde: the flash videos don't place, but the sounds in audacious plays
[19:18] <thefish> Hasone, ok im pretty sure the modules for that are in linux-ubuntu-modules
[19:18] <Swiftfoxer> err plays
[19:18] <Hasone> lspci, ls pci. makes since.
[19:18] <thefish> Hasone, please give output of uname -r
[19:18] <Hasone> thefish: sounds dandy
[19:18] <Hasone> 2.6.22-14-generic.
[19:18] <Uplink> why i get no sound on youtube videos???
[19:18] <Swiftfoxer> its just that if I reverse the order of startup I get the exact opposite problem
[19:18] <swmiller6> anyone know of a fix for the flash tearing
[19:18] <Chapai> did you restart firefox Uplink
[19:18] <thefish> Hasone, sudo apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r`-generic
[19:18] <Ali_ix> Uplink: check you flash plugin installation
[19:18] <Hasone> thefish: I installed fresh twice, and it never worked at first. I always had to do something.
[19:18] <Jaymac> Uplink: have you got a media player open?
[19:19] <Uplink> Chapai, yes i did
[19:19] <mysterycool> i am downloading a usplash image in order to change the usplash image when ubuntu hardy boots up but i am not quite sure how i can get it to work. any online tuts plz?
[19:19] <Chapai> is another app using sound Uplink
[19:19] <Swiftfoxer> Uplink, is anything else open?
[19:19] <Swiftfoxer> like audacious, etc?
[19:19] <Jaymac> Uplink: latest "fix" to stop ff crashing seems to create a conflict if you have ff open and another media player at the same time
[19:19] <Uplink> yes it is
[19:19] <Uplink> the radio
[19:19] <Swiftfoxer> or xmms?
[19:19] <Hasone> Error: couldn't find package linux-ubuntu-modules-uname-r-
[19:19] <Uplink> do i close it?
[19:19] <Hasone> thefish: oh.
[19:19] <Hasone> thefish: hehehe
[19:19] <Swiftfoxer> radio? you mean on your pc?
[19:19] <Jaymac> Uplink: close all media players, restart firefox
[19:19] <Swiftfoxer> thats the problem I'm having
[19:19] <Uplink> yea, live stream radio... OK OK
[19:19] <Jaymac> Uplink: then you will be good to go (hopefully)
[19:20] <david_-_-> Ali_ix: under w and under from is :o for first one and under from for second is :0.0 under tty for first is tty7 and under second for tty is pts/0
[19:20] <thefish> Hasone, put the backtics in (`)
[19:20] <Swiftfoxer> the sound mixer isn't working well it seems...
[19:20] <sweetsinse> does anyone encounter a bug in hadry...specifically xubuntu....where the default applications list is empty; in that firefox does not know how to open ANY file???
[19:20] <kousotu> Hardy is downloading VERY slow, anyway to fix this?
[19:20] <Uplink> (hopefully)
[19:20] <Ali_ix> david_-_-: ok, they are local users
[19:20] <acidicbase> is there a fix for gtk and ati in 8.0.4?
[19:20] <sweetsinse> servers are hot right now kousotu
[19:20] <rogue780> kousotu, use torrent?
[19:20] <Hasone> no se udo encontral el paquente linux-ubuntu-modules---generic
[19:20] <sweetsinse> yeah
[19:20] <Uplink> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[19:20] <thefish> Hasone, sudo apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[19:21] <mannytu> try another sever...
[19:21] <sweetsinse> i got hardy in 10 minutes with torrent
[19:21] <Uplink> all my firefox windows are closed
[19:21] <david_-_-> Ali_ix: is it from my machine? because im only one on it. and only one running on this comp.
[19:21] <kousotu> rogue780: no I'mrunning pidgin and synaptic (and this)
[19:21] <Hasone> linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic ya esta en su version mas reciente.
[19:21] <Swiftfoxer> Uplink, close from the system monitor
[19:21] <Jaymac> Uplink: type pkill firefox
[19:21] <david_-_-> Ali_ix: i still can not get the logs to open either way u said.
[19:21] <thefish> Hasone, translated that means its already installed?
[19:21] <Hasone> thefish: in other words, that's not the problem. and sorry I didn't translate that time ><
[19:21] <Ali_ix> david_-_-: yes, they are local users on your machine, check usernames and go to Prefrences > Users & Groups for more information
[19:22] <Uplink> ty
[19:22] <kousotu> !es | Hasone
[19:22] <Hasone> thefish: yep
[19:22] <Uplink> yay!!!i get sound now! ty guys! :D
[19:22] <sweetsinse> i cant be the only one to have this xubuntu bug...happens on a fresh install of hardy, and has happened ever since beta 3 of firefox 3
[19:22] <thefish> Hasone, ok cool, i think my laptop has a similar wnic
[19:22] <Hasone> thefish: I set the language to spanish so I could learn spanish better :)
[19:22] <Jaymac> Uplink: no prob :)
[19:22] <Ali_ix> david_-_-: logs are generally under /var/log path, but they are not very human-readable
[19:22] <mheath> How would one go about getting OpenOffice to recognize new fonts? I've installed fonts to /usr/local/share/fonts, ran fc-cache....every gnome application now shows them, except for Open Office.
[19:22] <thefish> Hasone, there is a word for that...
[19:22] <rogue780> kousotu, you should use torrent is what i meant
[19:22] <kousotu> Hasone: (my bad)
[19:22] <Ali_ix> david_-_-: it is Administrative > USers & Groups
[19:22] <kousotu> rogue780: I'm downloading UPDATES
[19:23] <Gromi> is there anyway firestarter can monitor both wireless and wired connections, even if they aren't active?
[19:23] <rogue780> oh, nm
[19:23] <Jaymac> kousotu: are you using the closest mirror to your location?
[19:23] <Swiftfoxer> Jaymac, does the problem of audio not initializing in any sound using app and firefox(flash) due to a sound mixer or is it just an issue with flash?
[19:23] <thefish> Hasone, "lsmod | grep iwl" - does this return anything?
[19:23] <Swiftfoxer> because it either works with one or another
[19:23] <kousotu> Jaymac: no idea, just used what it defaulted to
[19:23] <Hasone> thefish: no
[19:24] <Jaymac> Swiftfoxer: I think it is a flash issue, not sure.  They tried to make Flash more stable, and this was a side effect as far as I know.
[19:24] <david_-_-> Ali_ix: ah there showing me twice lol
[19:24] <Swiftfoxer> Jaymac, pal said its due to ESD being replaced by pulseaudio or something
[19:24] <ikar> I finished installing everything on my pc including antena and everything works perferct u guys helped me a lot tHANKSSSS
[19:24] <david_-_-> Ali_ix: thanks for your help
[19:24] <Jaymac> kousotu: go to System Administration Software Sources
[19:24] <Swiftfoxer> so libflashsupport fixes this eh?
[19:24] <Ali_ix> david_-_-: one for you graphic session and another for terminal login
[19:24] <thefish> Hasone, ok try sudo modprobe iwl2915
[19:24] <Ali_ix> david_-_-: ;)
[19:25] <sweetsinse> is anyone else running xubuntu hardy?
[19:25] <Jaymac> then click the Download From: drop down menu and select your location
[19:25] <Swiftfoxer> I hope nothing bad happens
[19:25] <Sake> what do I have to do to enable dual-screen on my laptop with ubuntu 8.04?
[19:25] <Jaymac> sweetsinse: #xubuntu :)
[19:25] <sweetsinse> damn
[19:25] <Hasone> FATAL: Module iwl2915 not found: note that my internet worked before all this mess
[19:25] <Ghostinthedarkne> can someone help me with a " Unable to build the vmmon module. " Error I keep getting ? I think there is a problem with the compiler ??? I downloaded the essentials but same issue
[19:25] <kousotu> Jaymac: ok, then what?
[19:25] <Thomamvt> can anyone please help me
[19:25] <Jaymac> kousotu: then hit close, and re-run the update
[19:26] <Ali_ix> Sake: install displayconfig-gtk package, it is a nice and handy GUI for handling this stuff
[19:26] <Ali_ix> Thomamvt: what is problme?
[19:26] <Thomamvt> in my country they are billing me for ubuntu cd
[19:26] <Ali_ix> !repeat | Ghostinthedarkne
[19:26] <Hasone> FATAL: Module iwl2915 not found: note that my internet worked before all this mess, thefish.
[19:26] <Chapai> which country is that Thomamvt
[19:26] <Thomamvt> The customs department
[19:26] <Thomamvt> INDIA
[19:26] <Ghostinthedarkne> oh .. K ;/
[19:27] <Bravewolf> filthpig: you can try to make a symlink of /var/cache/apt/archive
[19:27] <thefish> Hasone, sudo modprobe ipw2200?
[19:27] <Jaymac> Thomamvt: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/shipit-faq
[19:27] <Ali_ix> Thomamvt: how many CDsdid you ordered?
[19:27] <Thomamvt> 10cds
[19:27] <Hasone>  thefish: return to prompt
[19:27] <Jaymac> Thomamvt: click this: http://www.ubuntu.com/files/u1/ShipItGenericCustomsLetter.pdf
[19:27] <Hasone> thefish: note this is the session i booted up after recovery mode, if that makes any difference.
[19:28] <Thomamvt> but i returned the cd to postal department
[19:28] <thefish> Hasone, ok lsmod | grep ipw shoudl returnm stuff now
[19:28] <Thomamvt> because i had no money at that time
[19:28] <Chapai> is it not faster to download the cd and make copies?
[19:28] <Pici> Thomamvt: We are not Ship It's support , please see Jaymac's message
[19:28] <Ali_ix> Chapai: not if you have a dialup, unstable connection
[19:29] <Gromi> So, Is there anyway firestarter can monitor both wireless and wired devices, even if they aren't active?
[19:29] <Jaymac> Thomamvt: send that pdf to the customs department.
[19:29] <thefish> Hasone, see if that changes your networkmanager stuff so it sees the wlan
[19:29] <Dvyjones> Is it possible to run both gnome and kde at the same time?
[19:29] <Chapai> oh yeah i forgot
[19:29] <Jaymac> Dvyjones: what do you mean? simultaneously on the same machine?
[19:29] <chrishe> hello
[19:29] <Dvyjones> Jaymac: yes
[19:29] <Ali_ix> Gromi: when they are not active, there is no packets, why should it monitor?
[19:29] <Hasone> ipw2200                    149320 0
[19:29] <Bravewolf>  I'm going to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04. I disabled all the additional repos (eg. Medibuntu, innotek, canonical partner) and I cleaned the package status using "apt-get clean" and "apt-get autoremove". Now I have some non official Ubuntu packages, such as mplayer (medibuntu), ffmpeg (medibuntu), skype, googleearth, canon cups driver, virtualbox. Can I begin the upgrade or I have to do some more actions? Thanks!
[19:30] <Hasone> ieee80211                   35656 1 ipw2200
[19:30] <Thomamvt> Jaymac: no use
[19:30] <thefish> Hasone, only one line?
[19:30] <lgierth> hi, the installation of 8.04 (clean from cd) deleted all files in my desktop (i have /home on a separate partition). is there any chance to get them back?
[19:30] <Elive_user38> hi guys, im installing linux on an mac mini, where do i install grub, or dont install at all? plz, ty.
[19:30] <Ali_ix> Dvyjones: you can generally use one graphical shell at once, but you have both installed and switch between them
[19:30] <Jaymac> Thomamvt: what do you mean?
[19:30] <thefish> Hasone, ok if dpkg --configure -a does nothing, maybe try rebooting now (remember to remove the disk)
[19:30] <Thomamvt> they bill me sometimes only
[19:30] <Hasone> thefish: two separate lines. line1: ipw2200 longspace 149320 0, line2: ieee80211 longspace 35656 1 ipw2200.
[19:30] <Dvyjones> Jaymac: Without rebooting or closing programs?
[19:31] <Jaymac> Dvyjones: you can switch between them, but you can't have them running at the same time, unless you run one in a VM/
[19:31] <Dvyjones> k
[19:31] <thefish> Hasone, ok that means your wireless is now seen - good
[19:31] <Hasone> rebooting.
[19:31] <Jaymac> Dvyjones: but you can run KDE applications in GNOME and vice versa, so why would you want to?
[19:31] <Gromi> Ali_ix: Because I when I'm out and about I don't want to have to start firestarter and run the wizard again if I want to use wifi connection. Does that make sense?
[19:31] <Thomamvt> They know what ubuntu is but they only want money
[19:31] <uburubby> hi everyone
[19:31] <Hasone>  thefish: still can't access the interwebs. should I reboot?
[19:31] <chrishe> i am trying to connect to the starchat server but having no luck -
[19:32] <thefish> Hasone, networkmanager doesnt show available wlan?
[19:32] <jar> is there a very cheap inkjet printer working out of the box in hardy?
[19:32] <Hasone> thefish: launching networkmanager
[19:32] <Thomamvt> anyway thanks for helping
[19:32] <Thomamvt> to everyone
[19:32] <Thomamvt> Thanks
[19:32] <Hasone> thefish: how do I get to network manager?
[19:32] <thefish> Hasone, icon in the systray?
[19:33] <Hasone> thefish: I think it may be network manager that may have dissapeared. something that has bars and stuff dissapeared.
[19:33] <uburubby> can anyone tell, where is PIDGIN icq logs files take place in Ubuntu ?
[19:33] <Gromi> So do I have to start firestarter and change the settings if I want to switch from a wired to wireless connection? Isn't that a bit inconvenient?
[19:33] <thefish> Hasone, ok give it a reboot then
[19:33] <Hasone> thefish: no icons in systray refer to the interwebs.
[19:33] <Hasone> thefish: aye aye, cap'n!
[19:33] <thefish> Hasone, may be theres a new kernel to boot from :)
[19:33] <Hasone> thefish: that's been true since the problems started
[19:33] <ph8> does anyone have any idea how I can fix this problem with Hardy not recognising my on board network card properly? I assume this is what it is - the card appears but it can't connect to anything, i have a laptop using the same router (wired) and as i say, it still works if i boot to the old kernel - when i 'ifup eth0' it simply looks for leases and never finds one - what info do i need to provide/look for? I've tried putting in another network card that works
[19:34] <billy12> how do you tell wht version of software is in the repo
[19:34] <mysterycool> ive downloaded the usplashe images for booting up ubuntu. how can i set the image to act when i boot up?
[19:34] <Hasone> thefish: shutting down, sadly losing my game of sudoku, mourning for the duration of time it takes me to fix my computers.
[19:34] <mysterycool> *a usplash
[19:34] <mysterycool> *image
[19:34] <thefish> Hasone, i hear ya
[19:34] <Gromi> does anybody else not see a problem here?
[19:34] <Ali_ix> billy12: there is a version column in synaptics
[19:35] <jack_> anyone know how to record streamed audio?
[19:35] <sweetsinse> mysterycool download the package 'startup-manager'
[19:35] <billy12> i cant from the command line
[19:35] <billy12> im sshed in
[19:35] <sweetsinse> mysterycool it might be one word
[19:35] <Hasone> has anyone hear used plan 9?
[19:35] <mysterycool> sweetsinse: i did. now what?
[19:35] <mysterycool> Xd
[19:35] <mysterycool> XD
[19:35] <thefish> ph8, it may be you dont have the modules for your new kernel installed
[19:35] <Gromi> nm
[19:35] <mysterycool> :p
[19:35] <FloodBot2> mysterycool: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <jack_> any1 know how to use audacity to record onscreen>?
[19:35] <billy12> Ali_ix> i cant from the command line, im sshed in
[19:35] <Ghostinthedarkne> can someone help me with this damn ERROR : " Unable to build the vmmon module. " Error I keep getting ? I think there is a problem with the compiler ??? I downloaded the essentials but same issue
[19:35] <sweetsinse> mysterycool run it and there should be a place to change the boot themes
[19:36] <filthpig> is there some way to get rid of totem? I've set VLC to be the default mediaplayer, but totem keeps popping up... for both music and video :(
[19:36] <mysterycool> sweetsinse: erm, i dont think it can be ran :s
[19:36] <Hasone> thefish: I think it froze while shutting down. I'm scared.
[19:36] <filthpig> Ghostinthedarkne, tried google?
[19:36] <jan__> Hello, I've a Gericom Hummer and since the upgrade ti 8.04 it takes >5 Min to Boot
[19:36] <sweetsinse> mysterycool what flaver of ubuntu you have
[19:36] <Marfi> whats a good KDE app for widgets?
[19:36] <thefish> Hasone, give it a sec.. whats on the screen?
[19:36] <jan__> What can I do?
[19:36] <ph8> thefish: Aha! Do you know any way i can check?
[19:36] <mysterycool> sweetsinse: hardy
[19:36] <Ali_ix> billy12: well, you may check the repos web-based, cuz i cant see version in aptitude search results
[19:36] <sweetsinse> mysterycool you can run it from terminal
[19:36] <ph8> my upgrade wasn't the smoothest experience; my display drivers still aren't working
[19:36] <Elive_user38> guys, plz, i have a little question. im installing linux on mac mini, i kept os x partition, and have anotherone where im putting linux on, where do i install grub? im planning to dual boot
[19:36] <Ghostinthedarkne> yeah and ubuntu fourms and followed their suggestions with no success
[19:37] <ramkumar> filthpig: right click the file, and go to the "open with" tab
[19:37] <filthpig> Marfi, superkaramba
[19:37] <ph8> but no net on the machine is a little hampering :p
[19:37] <Ali_ix> billy12: for already installed packages, check dpkg -l
[19:37] <billy12> that wht i thought, thank you
[19:37] <ysjneorhino> filthpig: should be able to try in synaptic
[19:37] <kazol> Did anyone have problems with upgrading to Heron with synaptec?
[19:37] <kousotu> can someone please tell me what to do about this:
[19:37] <kousotu> err:dosmem:setup_dos_mem Cannot use first megabyte for DOS address space, please report
[19:37] <kousotu> install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[19:37] <ramkumar> remove movie player in that list and add vlc
[19:37] <uburubby> народ
[19:37] <mysterycool> sweetsinse: oh found it from System ->Administration =]
[19:37] <Marfi> filthpig, ty
[19:37] <Jaymac> Elive_user38: ubuntu should set grub up for you, although it might be different on a mac, not 100% sure
[19:37] <kousotu> (please pm it, all pms accepted)
[19:37] <thefish> ph8, i dont know what modules you need, but you can try installing linux-ubuntu-modules-{your kernel version} (`uname -r` will give you that)
[19:37] <filthpig> ramkumar, that does it only for that one file that one time..
[19:37] <Uplink> why does my firefox keep crashing?
[19:37] <thefish> ph8, theres also linux-restricted-modules
[19:38] <kazol> Uplink: Firefox has memory leak problems.
[19:38] <Elive_user38> uburubby: zdarov :P
[19:38] <Uplink> im watching youtube videos and my firefox keeps crashing
[19:38] <ph8> thx
[19:38] <ramkumar> filthpig: hmm it should do it for all files of that type actually
[19:38] <Ali_ix> Uplink: recheck your plugins and extensions
[19:38] <ph8> i can hop back to my old kernel and install them
[19:38] <Uplink> :(
[19:38] <ph8> sounds like a plan
[19:38] <Uplink> how do i re-check them?
[19:38] <kazol> Uplink: Try a different browser. Also, is firefox updated?
[19:38] <filthpig> ramkumar, doesn't, thouch
[19:38] <filthpig> though*
[19:38] <dethstar> !nvidia
[19:38] <Uplink> Firefox 3 Beta 5
[19:38] <Ali_ix> Uplink: by disableing one by one, and see when it stops crashing
[19:38] <sweetsinse> please, someone has to have noticed the missing default applications list in firefox 3... i leaves firefox dumb as to what external app to use
[19:38] <Mimi> Does anyone have a guide on how to record sound from your speakers? (not streams)
[19:39] <kazol> Uplink: That's a beta version...
[19:39] <kousotu> anyoe have any ideas?
[19:39] <mrpouet> Hi, i found a bug in gdm 2.20.5-0ubuntu3 in intrepid branch, if first args of /etc/init.d/gdm script is "stop" script stops gdm without restarted usplash_down, so usplash if very powerfull and good works at boot but at power of we can only see it ~ 2-3 seconds before reboot
[19:39] <kousotu> this worked before I updated to hardy
[19:39] <Hasone> thefish: my background and a frozen cursor
[19:39] <kazol> Uplink: Try an older, stable release.
[19:39] <kazol> Did anyone have problems with upgrading to Heron with synaptec?
[19:39] <Barnose> Hi everyone
[19:39] <jack_> I NEED HELP RECORDING STREAMED AUDIO :(:(:(:(
[19:39] <ysjneorhino> mrpouet: have you added the bug to Launchpad?
[19:39] <billy12> does intrepid have a road map?
[19:39] <Ali_ix> mrpouet: report it in lauchpad.com
[19:39] <mrpouet> ysjneorhino, i'll do that ;)
[19:39] <Mimi> !caps | jack_
[19:39] <Ali_ix> *launchpad.com
[19:40] <ph8> kazol: I'm on a dual screen nvidia setup - so x is crashed post-upgrade which is pretty much standard for an ubuntu upgrade (from dist to dist)
[19:40] <ysjneorhino> *launchpad.net
[19:40] <jack_> can't anyone help me? o.0
[19:40] <Elive_user38> Jaymac: here pops up a question. where to put grub on? and regular antswers like: mbr, /, etc...
[19:40] <ramkumar> filthpig: when you go the open with dialog, does it say that <filename> and all other files of that type at the top?
[19:40] <Hasone> thefish: I'm ready to just yank the plug.
[19:40] <thefish> Hasone, "CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE" will kill just X, without rebooting, you could try that
[19:40] <Mimi> jack_:  there are LOTS of guides on how to record streamed audio. Google it
[19:40] <kazol> ph8: So the settings are lost in Xorg.conf or what?
[19:40] <Mimi> Does anyone have a guide on how to record sound from your speakers? (not streams)
[19:40] <mrpouet> Ali_ix, i know launchpad (i'm registered)
[19:40] <billy12> jack_: google VLC
[19:40] <mysterycool> Sweetsinse: Thank You. I have changed the Usplash Image =] Brb now.
[19:40] <mysterycool> *restarts to check his new usplah image =]
[19:41] <Barnose> Anyone not too busy.... would like to talk on Yahoo/Pidgin message...... Need Simple Help with ubuntu.. Thanks... Message         blacklungs39
[19:41] <kousotu> sylar_: cheats!! lol
[19:41] <Hasone> thefish: no response. I'm convinced it's well and truly frozen. there's no nothing, no menus, no panels, just a picture and a little frozen cursor.
[19:41] <mysterycool> Barnose: Hello.
[19:41] <ph8> kazol: no idea mate tbh, havent' debugged yet - the xserver package upgrade failed in synaptic initially
[19:41] <Jaymac> Elive_user38: not sure for a mac, here is a guide (outdated) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/HowTo/Ubuntu_Feisty_On_Intel_Mac_Mini_Quick-Start_Guide
[19:41] <Barnose> Hi
[19:41] <thefish> Hasone, just do it (TM) then i reckon...
[19:41] <ph8> if you only have one screen you're probably fine tbh
[19:41] <sylar_> kousotu: what?
[19:41] <ph8> i can get basic vesa working on one screen
[19:41] <Mimi> Barnose:  why dont you just ask here...? then if need be, you can message each other here in irc
[19:41] <mysterycool> Barnose: I am not really busy but i'd rather prefer if we'd talk on a private msg =]
[19:41] <TTilus> Barnose: nobody here's busy, just ask...
[19:41] <kousotu> sylar_: just messin with ya
[19:41] <mysterycool> lol, exactly actually =]
[19:41] <kazol> ph8: Yeah, I only have 1 screen.
[19:41] <mysterycool> brb now =]
[19:42] <mysterycool> brb
[19:42] <sylar_> can any one help me with sound issues
[19:42] <ysjneorhino> sylar_: what seems to be the problem?
[19:42] <Hasone> you know what the coolest thing evar is? isolinux. it makes me happy in all sorts of ways.
[19:42] <Uplink> kazol, ty
[19:42] <filthpig> ramkumar, hmm, I was wrong earlier, I've only selected the ones directly in the menu, never under prefs. Sorry ;)
[19:42] <Elive_user38> Jaymac: ty, its the guide ive used, but theres nothing about grub location :/
[19:42] <kousotu> can someone please tell me what to do about this:
[19:42] <kousotu> err:dosmem:setup_dos_mem Cannot use first megabyte for DOS address space, please report
[19:42] <kousotu> install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[19:42] <sylar_> ysjneorhino: no sound in ubuntu at all
[19:42] <svl> When I try to burn a CD with nautilus, clicking on "write" flashes up a dialog for a split-second, and then nothing happens. I guess some kind of error is happening - where can I find that error?
[19:42] <kousotu> this worked before I updated to hardy
[19:42] <FloodBot2> kousotu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:42] <ysjneorhino> sylar_: what kind of sound you using?
[19:43] <r00tintheb0x> suppers
[19:43] <mrpouet> Ali_ix, so i'll to write a small patch to fix it and after submit bug on launchpad
[19:43] <ramkumar> filthpig: ah ok, i should have been clearer too then...great
[19:43] <Barnose> how do i get to my desktop from here?
[19:43] <ysjneorhino> hardware*
[19:43] <kazol> Has anyone else upgraded to Heron via synaptec?
[19:43] <Hasone> booting up, as we speak. thefish. we are booted in 3, 2, 1..
[19:43] <Ali_ix> mrpouet: that would be nice :)
[19:43] <ramkumar> filthpig: should have pointed you to properties first, heh
[19:43] <kousotu> kazol: you mean through the update manager?
[19:43] <thefish> Hasone, shivering in antic....
[19:43] <Hasone> thefish: I think we're set.
[19:43] <thefish> Hasone, pation
[19:43] <kazol> kousotu: Yeah
[19:43] <kousotu> kazol: I did
[19:43] <PY> Is anyone else having trouble booting even from the liveCD with hardy?
[19:43] <Mimi> *sigh* ive been looking for days. Does anyone have a guide to record audio that you can hear? (im not looking to record streams,  just a game and voice chat on it)  --  Sound Recorder doesnt work for me
[19:43] <thefish> Hasone, im gonna have to bail mate, I have a daughter who needs bathies time :)
[19:43] <kazol> kousotu: Did it install without problems?
[19:44] <Ali_ix> PY: no! what is your problem?
[19:44] <Hasone> thefish: can you refer me to someone, mayhaps?
[19:44] <ramkumar> mimi: have you tried audacity?
[19:44] <kousotu> kazol: it gave 3 errors, but it's fine
[19:44] <kazol> kousotu: Ok, good, I'll upgrade my installation then.
[19:44] <mrpouet> Ali_ix, to ubuntu project it's a pleasure :)
[19:44] <PY> Ali_ix: Nothing from the Hardy-era stuff will even boot!
[19:44] <Mimi> ramkumar:  yes but its so difficult to use.. it doesnt even give me  a list asking me where I want to record from
[19:44] <thefish> Hasone, hope that helped, sorry i dont knwo anyone else here :( im sure someone will help...
[19:44] <thefish> Hasone, may be back later..
[19:44] <kousotu> kazol: do you us emerald?
[19:44] <Hasone> thank you for everything, thefish.
[19:44] <Ali_ix> PY any errors or signs?
[19:45] <ramkumar> Hasone: what's the problem again?
[19:45] <ph8> thefish: apt says i have the latest -modules -restricted and -headers (although headers is 'set to manually installed')
[19:45] <ph8> any other ideas? think i should try reinstalling them?
[19:45] <dan_> file:///home/dan/Desktop/Google%20Desktop.html
[19:45] <Hasone> to whom it may concern: when I was rudely interrupted in the middle of upgrading to hardy, nautilus seemed to go bonkers and my wi-fi internet is not working.
[19:45] <dan_> file:///home/dan/Desktop/minor-docstring-cleanups.patch
[19:45] <Hasone>  ramkumar: ^^^ a couple lines up.
[19:45] <dan_> file:///home/dan/Desktop/bug200575.patch
[19:45] <nate__> H I cant pass multiple command line arguments to the flwm binary in flwm.desktop using gdm. I would like to run flwm -bg black -fg green, is there a way to pass these using gdm?
[19:45] <Pici> dan_: ?
[19:45] <PY> Ali_ix: When I run it with ACPI workarounds, it stops at something to do with USB, but it always freezes
[19:45] <Ali_ix> ph8: even compiled custom kernel? try it once :) it is coll! you can optimize kernel and add your drivers.
[19:46] <matthias_> how can i add an icon for a program that normally i need to run from terminal window ???
[19:46] <Barnose> ty
[19:46] <Ali_ix> PY, sorry, no idea
[19:46] <Odd-rationale> Is there a config file for pastebinit? so that i can add my own pastebin? Thanks!
[19:46] <ramkumar> hasone: hmm, it doesn't detect your wifi networks even? and what exactly happened to nautilus? heh
[19:46] <zvacet> matthias_ :you can make launcher,
[19:46] <PY> Bummer
[19:46] <Mimi> *sigh* ive been looking for days. Does anyone have a guide to record audio that you can hear? (im not looking to record streams,  just a game and voice chat on it)  --  Sound Recorder doesnt work for me, get just ... very low sound ?
[19:46] <Barnose> What programs should i download for ubuntu????
[19:47] <Hasone> ramkumar: when I open a window in nautilus, it opens visibly enough for me to see the window opening, and then immediately closes.
[19:47] <PY> Sticking with vista, I guess
[19:47] <Mimi> Barnose: ... can you be more specific
[19:47] <ph8> Ali_ix: I'd really rather not, seems a bit overboard!
[19:47] <malocite> Barnose: for what purpose?
[19:47] <Ali_ix> !repeat | Mimi
[19:47] <matthias_> zvacet: where is the launcher located
[19:47] <filthpig> Mimi, sound rec should work, have you checked your settings?
[19:47] <kousotu> can someone please tell me what to do about this:
[19:47] <kousotu> err:dosmem:setup_dos_mem Cannot use first megabyte for DOS address space, please report
[19:47] <kousotu> install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[19:47] <kousotu> this worked before I updated to hardy
[19:47] <ramkumar> mimi: you can try ardour
[19:47] <evil_tech> does anyone know where the oem install option went?
[19:47] <Mimi> filthpig:  Yeah I've checked the settings, but the help file is SO outdated... so I'm half guessing what I need to do
[19:48] <zvacet> matthias_ :  right click  on desktop
[19:48] <ramkumar> hasone: what is the output when you run nautilus from a terminal?
[19:49] <zvacet> matthias_ : or you can go to the system>preferences>main menu> new item
[19:49] <BB88> Anybody know how to get QTRuby to work in Ubuntu?
[19:49] <kousotu> how does one install dependencies for a program, without installing the program itself?
[19:49] <Hasone> ramkumar, symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/libgnome-mount-so: undefined symbol: nautilus_file_info_get_drive.