[22:42] <nu2ub> Hello everyone
[22:42] <nu2ub> need help
[22:44] <nu2ub> I am new to ubuntu had 12.10 installed but due to a display glitch decided to move to 12.04. In the process found Edubuntu 12.04.Since I have kids i decided to install this. The boot cd worked fine and was connected to Internet during install... Now it does not pick any of the wireless
[22:44] <nu2ub> how do i fix that
[22:46] <nu2ub> did this install about half an hour ago. It did not connect to the internet when i started the new installation.
[22:46] <nu2ub> Can someone help plz
[22:47] <nu2ub> the option for wireless Networks in the top  right button is shaded (can't click on it)
[22:48] <nu2ub> I only have one user account but for some reason it seems it is not the admin/root account
[23:22] <jbicha> nu2ub: try https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/user-forgottenpassword.html
[23:23] <jbicha> never mind, I don't think that's your problem
[23:23] <jbicha> could you try #ubuntu
[23:24] <nu2ub> ok
[23:24] <nu2ub> will go to ubuntu
[23:55] <nu2ub> How do i login as an Admin or root


[10:16] <ogra_> AlanBell, *tickle*
[10:16] <ogra_> i'm looking for a way to get a bu bot into #snappy
[10:16] <MooDoo> oooo er :D
[10:16] <ogra_> *bug bot
[12:34] <AlanBell> hi ogra_ I don't think I can do that now, and it really should be #ubuntu-snappy probably (or it is just a regular freenode channel, not a group channel)
[12:34] <AlanBell> all depends on whether snappy is an upstream or part of ubuntu really
[12:36] <ogra_> it is part of ubuntu but i dont think we want the ubuntu prefix for the channel name
[12:36] <ogra_> (like there is no #ubuntu-launchpad)
[12:37] <AlanBell> makes it a fraction harder for the IRCC to help you with the channel if it is outside the namespace
[12:37] <AlanBell> but there is no huge reason why a bot can't be sent in, but I can't do it now
[12:37] <ogra_> well, i can ask, but i doubt it will be chaned
[12:37] <ogra_> *changed
[12:37] <Pricey> (I don't think anyone would say launchpad is part of ubuntu...)
[12:37] <ogra_> huh ?
[12:38] <ogra_> there would be no ubuntu without launchpad ... it definitely is a massive part of ubuntu
[12:38] <AlanBell> well launchpad wanted to be github
[12:38] <Pricey> There would be no ubuntu without debian, but debian isn't part of ubuntu
[12:38] <ogra_> no matter what it wanted or wants to be ...
[12:38] <Pricey> They're separate projects.
[12:38] <AlanBell> i.e. not project specific, and it was to a fair extent whilst OpenERP was on Launchpad
[12:39] <ogra_> Pricey, but no matter if they are seprate or not, #launchpad has an ubottu ...
[12:40] <AlanBell> that we can agree on :)
[12:40] <ogra_> and i would like the same for #snappy
[12:40] <ogra_> :)
[12:40] <AlanBell> lubotu1: join #snappy
[12:40] <Pricey> Oh sure, I was just commenting on the channel naming bit.
[12:41] <AlanBell> nope, they don't listen to me :)
[12:43] <ogra_> well, what can i do to get one there ... ?
[12:43] <MooDoo> does anyone AlanBell ? ;)
[12:44]  * Pici pokes some bots
[12:44] <AlanBell> ogra_: someone with bot powers will be along later I imagine, Pici maybe
[12:44] <AlanBell> see ;)
[12:45] <ogra_> wheee !
[13:12] <Pici> ogra_: I put ubottu in there (at least temporarily), I can't seem to get the other bots to listen to me rigt now
[13:13]  * ogra_ hugs Pici
[13:13] <ogra_> thanks, a bug bot is totally enough for now
[13:13] <ogra_> (works fine)
[22:22]  * Unit193 stabs zombiefox.


[12:20] <crimsun> junk1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:21] <junk1> i cant get on the web till i get the card to work  though. does that matter?
[12:22] <crimsun> you're connected right this moment; follow the directions and grab anything for which you'd need an Internet connection
[12:55] <junk1> i got ndiswrapper it was on the cd
[12:56] <junk1> like i said b 4 i got the cd th ecard came with now what?
[12:58] <junk1> crimsum im not on the laptop im at a cyber cafee now what
[12:59] <junk1> i got to go im out of time ill try tomarrow
[02:59] <joseph0829> hey i need help on edubunutu.. anyone please
[02:59] <joseph0829> ...........
[03:32] <joseph0829> need help on edubuntu
[03:32] <joseph0829> need help on edubuntu
[03:32] <joseph0829> any one please.......
[03:33] <jsgotangco> hi
[03:33] <JGedeon> State what your looking for help with someone might say something.
[03:42] <joseph0829> i need to uninstall edubuntu... how can i do that?
[03:44] <joseph0829> i need to uninstall edubuntu... how can i do that?
[03:47] <LaserJock> joseph0829: what do you want to replace it with?
[03:50] <joseph0829> replace it with WinXP
[03:50] <joseph0829> replace it with WinXP
[03:50] <LaserJock> joseph0829: you don't need to say everything twice
[03:50] <LaserJock> joseph0829: just reinstall WinXP then
[03:51] <LaserJock> it will wipe off Edubuntu
[03:51] <joseph0829> i'll just put the WinXP cd and then boot to CD??
[03:52] <LaserJock> yeah
[03:53] <joseph0829> is it possible to run *.exe files on edubuntu?
[03:53] <LaserJock> no
[03:54] <joseph0829> can i also use the win98 start-up disk to reformat the disk used by edubuntu?
[03:54] <LaserJock> you should be able to yes
[03:55] <joseph0829> what you mean 'sohuld be able to yes'>
[03:55] <joseph0829> what you mean 'sohuld be able to yes'>?
[03:56] <LaserJock> if you put the win98 disk in you should be ble to format the drive
[03:56] <LaserJock> but you can also put your winxp disk in and reinstall and it should wipe the drive
[03:57] <joseph0829> i tried to boot the win98 start-up disk then run windows 98 setup, the it says the setup can remove an OS/2 system ostored on the hard disk, and then i press enter then it says that cannot write on the disk system halted... what do you mean by halt??
[03:59] <LaserJock> hmm, I'm not really up on win98 restor disks :/
[04:00] <joseph0829> does edubuntu use letters for the disk drive ID?? such as C:\ or d:\ something else??
[04:00] <LaserJock> something else
[04:00] <LaserJock> the first dis is hda
[04:00] <LaserJock> *disk
[04:00] <LaserJock> or sda
[04:01] <LaserJock> then second is hdb/sdb
[04:03] <joseph0829> just want otclear it out.... the primary dirve is what?
[04:03] <LaserJock> should be sda
[04:04] <LaserJock> it kinda depends on what version you have
[04:04] <LaserJock> we went from hda to sda a while back
[04:05] <joseph0829> the version is edubuntu 6.06
[04:07] <LaserJock> joseph0829: do you happen to know if it's a SATA drive?
[04:11] <joseph0829> nopt its Just ATA
[04:12] <joseph0829> nopt its Just ATA
[04:12] <LaserJock> it could be hda then
[04:13] <joseph0829> how about booting on an WinXP SP2 boot disk...does it replaces edubuntu??
[04:15] <LaserJock> it should
[04:23] <joseph0829> how about Linux Setup floppy disk?
[04:23] <joseph0829> how about Linux Setup floppy disk?
[04:25] <LaserJock> what about it?
[04:25] <JGedeon> joseph0829, whats the problem, your win98 startup disk will do it, your WinXP will also reformat your computer.
[04:25] <JGedeon> And yes a linux setup disk should be able to do it too.
[04:25] <LaserJock> JGedeon: thanks ;-)
[04:26] <JGedeon> LaserJock, NP
[04:29] <joseph0829> im sorry for deleting edubuntu yes its very useful coz there are software that are already installed along with the OS but i think there's only a few people in our place use the OS
[04:29] <JGedeon> joseph0829, I know more and more people in my area that are using it and I also now a local school that is converting to it.
[04:31] <joseph0829> and it really needs a lot of information when installing and uninstalling it
[04:32] <joseph0829> ...hahehhehe
[04:33] <JGedeon> joseph0829, sorry you think that I thought it seemed pretty straight forward installing.  Never have uninstalled though.  But it can't be any harder than putting a cd in and rebooting the computer.
[04:33] <JGedeon> I would like to see what you think of the documentation that would be needed to install a M$ system that does all that Edubuntu does.
[04:41] <joseph0829> ok
[04:43] <LaserJock> JGedeon: very true
[04:57] <JGedeon> Guess I made joseph0829 upset.
[05:18] <JGedeon> Burgundavia, Problems?
[06:34] <Loopstar> Set up a test lab and have server connected to thin client via crossover. Boot floppy or cd image and I keep receiving "corrupted packet received bla bla and buffer status bla bla. Any ideas.
[11:02] <Asc> is it possible to install edubuntu programs to ubuntu ?
[11:14] <Asc> ?
[11:30] <jbrefort> Asc, ubuntu and edubuntu use the same packages
[12:23] <Asc> oki
[04:57] <tekteen> can someone tell me how to make a mounted drive public or only available to certain users
[04:58] <tekteen> Anyone there?
[05:00] <cliebow> tektee:how about valid users=
[05:00] <tekteen> ?
[05:00] <tekteen> (linux noob)
[05:00] <tekteen> r u talking about fstab?
[05:01] <cliebow> valid users= @trenton allows only users in trenton group to access
[05:01] <cliebow> smb.conf
[05:01] <tekteen> ty
[05:01] <cliebow> ?
[05:01] <tekteen> thanx a mil
[05:01] <cliebow> qahh
[05:01] <cliebow> sure!
[05:59] <AnRkey> hi all
[05:59] <AnRkey> i need some help with ltsp, can anyone help?
[05:59] <AnRkey> sound for all the clients is coming out at the server
[06:00] <AnRkey> really weird
[06:07] <cliebow> Anrkey: try at #ltsp...but i havnt seen ogra today
[06:07] <cliebow> your redirect isnt working
[06:08] <stgraber> AnRkey: Which Edubuntu version ?
[06:08] <stgraber> Dapper/Edgy ?
[06:20] <xvlun> hi, i got a question on the tftp server integrated into edubuntu 6.10, how can i access it with a client that is not a dhcp client of the server?
[06:21] <xvlun> my problem is that tftp edubuntu-server and get pxelinux.0 work fine locally on the edubuntu server, but doesn#t work when tried by another machine in the network
[06:21] <xvlun> (transfer times out)
[08:14] <Feral_Kid> Any one tell me how to lock down certain function on the desktop? For instance, I don't want anyone to control vnc functions, or be able to change the desktop environment (change wall paper, etc)...
[08:21] <cliebow> feral_Kid:how about apt-get install pessulus
[08:21] <cliebow> you can control all that
[08:24] <jgedeon> cliebow: isn't that already installed by default?
[08:27] <bddebian> Heya


[00:43] <Randall> I have a request
[00:43] <Randall> make your damn users less arrogant
[00:46] <Lightkey> try #debian
[00:48] <Randall> Genesis 1
[00:48] <Randall> The Beginning
[00:48] <Randall>  1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
[00:48] <Randall>  2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
[00:48] <Randall>  3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
[00:48] <Randall>  6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
[00:48] <Randall>  9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.
[00:48] <Randall>  11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
[00:48] <Randall>  14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give lig
[00:48] <Randall>  20 And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky." 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let th
[00:48] <Randall>  24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
[00:48] <ion_> You fail at paste.
[00:48] <Randall>  26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [b] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
[00:49] <Randall>  27 So God created man in his own image,
[00:49] <Randall>        in the image of God he created him;
[00:49] <Randall>        male and female he created them.
[00:49] <Randall>  28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
[00:49] <Randall>  29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.
[00:49] <Randall>  31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
[00:49] <Randall> Genesis 2 (New International Version)
[00:49] <Randall> New International Version (NIV)
[00:49] <Randall> Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society
[00:49] <Randall> [NIV at IBS] [International Bible Society] [NIV at Zondervan] [Zondervan]
[00:49] <Randall> Genesis 2
[00:49] <Randall>  1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
[00:49] <Randall>  2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [a] from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
[00:49] <Randall> Adam and Eve
[00:49] <ion_> !ops
[00:49] <Randall>  4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
[00:49] <Randall>       When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens- 5 and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth [b] and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth [c] and there was no man to work the ground, 6 but streams [d] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground- the LORD God formed the man The Hebrew for man (adam) sounds like and may be related to the Hebrew for gr
[00:49] <Randall>  8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
[00:50] <Randall>  10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin [e] and onyx are also there.) 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush. [f] 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east
[00:50] <Randall>  15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
[00:50] <Randall>  18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."
[00:50] <Randall>  19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.
[00:50] <Randall>       But for Adam [g] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs [h] and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib [i] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
[00:50] <Randall>  23 The man said,
[00:50] <Randall>        "This is now bone of my bones
[00:50] <Randall>        and flesh of my flesh;
[00:50] <Randall>        she shall be called 'woman, [j] '
[00:50] <Randall>        for she was taken out of man."
[00:50] <Randall>  24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
[00:50]  * Pici goes to look for people on the access list
[00:50] <Randall>  25 The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
[00:50] <Randall> Genesis 3
[00:50] <Randall> The Fall of Man
[00:50] <Randall>  1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"
[00:50] <Randall>  2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "
[00:50] <Randall>  4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
[00:51] <Randall>  6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
[00:51] <Randall>  8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the LORD God called to the man, "Where are you?"
[00:51] <Randall>  10 He answered, "I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid."
[00:51] <Randall>  11 And he said, "Who told you that you were naked?
[00:51] <Randall>  12 The man said, "The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it."
[00:51] <Randall>  13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?"
[00:51] <Randall>       The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."
[00:51] <Randall>  14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this,
[00:51] <Randall>        "Cursed are you above all the livestock
[00:51] <Randall>        and all the wild animals!
[00:51] <Randall>        You will crawl on your belly
[00:51] <Randall>        and you will eat dust
[00:51] <Randall>        all the days of your life.
[00:51] <Randall>  15 And I will put enmity
[00:51] <Randall>        between you and the woman,
[00:51] <Randall>        and between your offspring [a] and hers;
[00:51] <Randall>        he will crush [b] your head,
[00:51] <Randall>        and you will strike his heel."
[00:51] <Randall>  16 To the woman he said,
[00:51] <Randall>        "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing;
[00:51] <Randall>        with pain you will give birth to children.
[00:52] <tormod> someone had too much drugs at the uds parties?
[00:53] <tormod> he started so well with that arrogant user thing, I was waiting for the point
[01:13] <asdfg> Genesis 42
[01:13] <asdfg> Joseph's Brothers Go to Egypt
[01:13] <asdfg>  1 When Jacob learned that there was grain in Egypt, he said to his sons, "Why do you just keep looking at each other?" 2 He continued, "I have heard that there is grain in Egypt. Go down there and buy some for us, so that we may live and not die."
[01:13] <asdfg>  3 Then ten of Joseph's brothers went down to buy grain from Egypt. 4 But Jacob did not send Benjamin, Joseph's brother, with the others, because he was afraid that harm might come to him. 5 So Israel's sons were among those who went to buy grain, for the famine was in the land of Canaan also.
[01:13] <asdfg>  6 Now Joseph was the governor of the land, the one who sold grain to all its people. So when Joseph's brothers arrived, they bowed down to him with their faces to the ground. 7 As soon as Joseph saw his brothers, he recognized them, but he pretended to be a stranger and spoke harshly to them. "Where do you come from?" he asked.
[01:13] <asdfg>       "From the land of Canaan," they replied, "to buy food."
[01:13] <asdfg>  8 Although Joseph recognized his brothers, they did not recognize him. 9 Then he remembered his dreams about them and said to them, "You are spies! You have come to see where our land is unprotected."
[01:13] <asdfg>  10 "No, my lord," they answered. "Your servants have come to buy food. 11 We are all the sons of one man. Your servants are honest men, not spies."
[01:13] <asdfg>  12 "No!" he said to them. "You have come to see where our land is unprotected."
[01:13] <soren> stfu
[01:13] <asdfg>  13 But they replied, "Your servants were twelve brothers, the sons of one man, who lives in the land of Canaan. The youngest is now with our father, and one is no more."
[01:13] <asdfg>  14 Joseph said to them, "It is just as I told you: You are spies! 15 And this is how you will be tested: As surely as Pharaoh lives, you will not leave this place unless your youngest brother comes here. 16 Send one of your number to get your brother; the rest of you will be kept in prison, so that your words may be tested to see if you are telling the truth. If you are not, then as surely as Pharaoh lives, you are spies!"  This they proceeded to do.
[01:13] <asdfg>  21 They said to one another, "Surely we are being punished because of our brother. We saw how distressed he was when he pleaded with us for his life, but we would not listen; that's why this distress has come upon us."
[01:13] <asdfg>  22 Reuben replied, "Didn't I tell you not to sin against the boy? But you wouldn't listen! Now we must give an accounting for his blood." 23 They did not realize that Joseph could understand them, since he was using an interpreter.
[01:13] <asdfg>  24 He turned away from them and began to weep, but then turned back and spoke to them again. He had Simeon taken from them and bound before their eyes.
[01:14] <asdfg>  25 Joseph gave orders to fill their bags with grain, to put each man's silver back in his sack, and to give them provisions for their journey. After this was done for them, 26 they loaded their grain on their donkeys and left.
[01:14] <asdfg>  27 At the place where they stopped for the night one of them opened his sack to get feed for his donkey, and he saw his silver in the mouth of his sack. 28 "My silver has been returned," he said to his brothers. "Here it is in my sack."
[01:14] <asdfg>       Their hearts sank and they turned to each other trembling and said, "What is this that God has done to us?"
[01:14] <asdfg>  29 When they came to their father Jacob in the land of Canaan, they told him all that had happened to them. They said, 30 "The man who is lord over the land spoke harshly to us and treated us as though we were spying on the land. 31 But we said to him, 'We are honest men; we are not spies. 32 We were twelve brothers, sons of one father. One is no more, and the youngest is now with our father in Canaan.'
[01:14] <asdfg>  33 "Then the man who is lord over the land said to us, 'This is how I will know whether you are honest men: Leave one of your brothers here with me, and take food for your starving households and go. 34 But bring your youngest brother to me so I will know that you are not spies but honest men. Then I will give your brother back to you, and you can trade [a] in the land.' "
[01:14]  * Yvonne_ pokes PriceChild
[01:14] <asdfg>  35 As they were emptying their sacks, there in each man's sack was his pouch of silver! When they and their father saw the money pouches, they were frightened. 36 Their father Jacob said to them, "You have deprived me of my children. Joseph is no more and Simeon is no more, and now you want to take Benjamin. Everything is against me!"
[01:14] <asdfg>  37 Then Reuben said to his father, "You may put both of my sons to death if I do not bring him back to you.
[01:14] <j-dizzle> it's soothing.
[01:14] <asdfg>  38 But Jacob said, "My son will not go down there with you; his brother is dead and he is the only one left. If harm comes to him on the journey you are taking, you will bring my gray head down to the grave [b] in sorrow."
[01:14] <asdfg> Genesis 43
[01:14] <j-dizzle> in the lobotomy way.
[01:14] <asdfg> The Second Journey to Egypt 1 Now the famine was still severe in the land. 2 So when they had eaten all the grain they had brought from Egypt, their father said to them, "Go back and buy us a little more food."
[01:14] <asdfg> 3 But Judah said to him, "The man warned us solemnly, 'You will not see my face again unless your brother is with you.' 4 If you will send our brother along with us, we will go down and buy food for you. 5 But if you will not send him, we will not go down, because the man said to us, 'You will not see my face again unless your brother is with you.' "
[01:16] <soren> PriceChild: Thanks.
[01:16] <PriceChild> Haven't read up much on how ipv6 works yet so hope that works :)
[01:17] <j-dizzle> PriceChild: oh you might've banned like 2^32 IP's but good enough ;-)
[01:17] <Lightkey> requested? O.o
[01:17] <j-dizzle> Lightkey: minitrue approve plusgood terminology.
[01:18] <PriceChild> j-dizzle: oh yeah i know that's a lot i banned, just wasn't sure how dynamic stuff behaves, which bits change, whether its the same kind of idea as ipv4.
[01:18] <Nafallo> hmm
[01:18] <j-dizzle> I personally think it's a FloodBot job :)
[01:18] <Nafallo> banned a /64 is looks like...
[01:19] <j-dizzle> Nafallo: bleh ther'es plenty of bits to go around
[01:19] <Nafallo> he.net's broker supplies /48s
[01:21] <j-dizzle> !ops
[01:21] <j-dizzle> that's probably another one?
[01:22] <Nafallo> hmmm
[01:22] <Pici> Its muted anyway.
[01:22] <j-dizzle> if we just mute every channel....
[01:22]  * j-dizzle files a patent
[01:23] <Nafallo> so ban allows users to join then?
[01:23] <Seeker`> yes
[01:23] <Seeker`> well, a ban with a % in the front does
[01:23] <Seeker`> but they cant talk
[01:23] <Nafallo> ah. it's one of the special bans.
[01:24] <Seeker`> I think PriceChild banned 2^64 IPs
[01:24] <j-dizzle> lol probably banned a few ISP's
[01:25] <Nafallo> no
[01:25] <Nafallo> probably didn't ban enough.
[01:25] <Seeker`> Nafallo: ?
[01:25] <Nafallo> it's hurricane electric. they supply users with /48s on their tunnel broker.
[01:26] <Nafallo> /64 is banned.
[01:29]  * nalioth calls the j-dizzle in #ubuntu-devel
[01:30] <j-dizzle> nalioth: yes sir?
[01:32] <ScottK-uds> Nafallo: /64 in IPv6 is the same (sort of) as banning a single IP in IPv4.
[01:32] <nalioth> just paraphrasing the bot, j-dizzle
[01:32] <Seeker`> Quite an interesting story asdfg was posting. I wonder how it ends
[01:32] <j-dizzle> nalioth: ah :)
[01:32] <Nafallo> ScottK-uds: yes. my point is the user is likely to have the /48 on the tunnel :-)
[01:34] <ScottK-uds> Nafallo: Right.  I'd tend to guess that /48 is to a sub provider and he should have just he /64 as an individual user (in theory anyway - that's how it was designed)
[01:35] <Nafallo> ScottK-uds: http://tunnelbroker.net/index.php
[01:36] <\sh> is it still so slow?
[01:37] <ScottK-uds> Dunno.  I'm not actually running it.  I just know about IPv6 cidr math because of an app I was writing that had to get cidr matches right in both IPv4 and IPv6.
[01:38] <\sh> the last time I used a ipv4 <-> ipv6 tunnel...it was slow like hell...
[01:38] <\sh> (for private stuff)
[01:40]  * Nafallo should get IPv6 deployed now that he has a fast enough server to act as router.
[01:40] <ScottK-uds> Why bother unless you don't have enough IP addresses?
[01:40] <Nafallo> because I like new technology
[01:40] <\sh> Nafallo: use a bloody ipv6 enabled router ;) not a server as router ;)
[01:40] <ScottK-uds> OK.
[01:40] <Nafallo> I'm pretty sure I have enough IPv4 :-P
[01:41] <Nafallo> \sh: buy it for me and pay for the colo :-P
[01:41] <\sh> Nafallo: gnarf...
[01:42] <\sh> as long you don't do it for company business you can stay with RIPE private addresses ;)
[01:42] <Nafallo> anyway. one of my transits are a sixxs endpoint :-)
[01:42] <\sh> 192.168.x.y
[01:42] <\sh> that's enough for you ;)
[01:42] <Nafallo> \sh: have enough IPv4 as I said :-)
[01:42] <Nafallo> both PI and PA
[01:42] <Seeker`> IPv6 addresses are a pain to remember
[01:43] <\sh> Seeker`: that's why the great internet god invented the DNS
[01:43] <\sh> holy DNS
[01:43] <Nafallo> also... dead:beef
[01:43] <ScottK-uds> Nafallo and \sh: Did you know whe have a python extension that adds a special data type for CIDR and does all the CIDR math for you in the archive?
[01:44] <Nafallo> ScottK-uds: nope :-)
[01:44] <Seeker`> \sh: It is still useful to be able to remember IP addresses
[01:44] <Nafallo> Seeker`: I remembered my linknets :-)
[01:45] <\sh> Seeker`: yes..for this I always have my notepad (I mean the real one...paper) or my visio topo map
[01:45]  * Nafallo shows Tomboy to \sh  ;-)
[01:45] <\sh> Nafallo: nah....computer dead...tomboy dead too
[01:45] <\sh> Nafallo: we have a database for this...
[01:45] <ScottK-uds> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pysubnettree
[01:46] <Nafallo> for Tomboy notes?
[01:46] <\sh> Nafallo: but all of us are using notepads
[01:46] <\sh> Nafallo: no...ip address mappings to interfaces, machines etc.
[01:46] <Nafallo> ah
[01:46] <Nafallo> DNS ;-)
[01:46] <ScottK-uds> It's a thin Python wrapper on some C, so it's pretty fast.
[01:47] <\sh> Nafallo: asset management via ldap which could create also DNS records, if we have time to improve it...
[01:47] <Nafallo> ya
[01:47] <\sh> but now for something totally different
[01:47]  * \sh wants to test powerdns
[01:48] <\sh> so as I understand: recursor version is the resolver part for outside dns querying?
[01:49] <Nafallo> \sh: what we would call a caching nameserver normally.
[01:50] <Nafallo> whereas the server part is authoritive nameserver
[01:51] <\sh> Nafallo: well, it should cache when I say so it should cache...;)
[01:52] <\sh> damn...we are old
[01:52] <Nafallo> ?
[01:52] <\sh> Nafallo: the version in hardy is already old
[01:53] <Nafallo> ah
[01:53]  * Nafallo prefers bind anyway
[01:54] <\sh> Nafallo: me too...but I want to see if the webfrontend to powerdns is actually useable
[01:55] <Nafallo> not really
[01:55] <Nafallo> but then again... I tend to dislike web frontends
[02:02] <\sh> yeah..forget pdns..
[02:38] <sladen> soren: http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/upload/ubuntu-vm-builder_0.4-0ubuntu0.1-sladen1.debdiff
[04:22] <mluser-home> How do I upgrade hardy to the new development version?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> mluser-home: update-manager -d  and this should be asked in #ubuntu+1 and its not advised you upgrade yet as it will most likely give you alot of issues since gcc-4.2 adn perl are broken atm if you do a dist upgrade it likely to remove everything that needs perl or gcc4.2
[04:35] <mluser-home> gnomefreak: thanks, I have an extra partition that I'll be using for this.. I dont really care if it breaks.  Just want to keep an eye on the latest development efforts.  Thanks :)
[04:36] <gnomefreak> mluser-home: you might want ot wait until perl is worked out upgrading them causes something like 50 packages for me to be removed one being most important is irssi for me
[04:37] <mluser-home> gnomefreak: thanks for the advice, I'll probably wait a week or two then
[04:38] <gnomefreak> anyone have a bug or status on perl hold backs? im sure its just something that needs a respin but im guessing since that wasnt done that there is a problem with it?
[04:39]  * gnomefreak didnt relize zchat was dependant on perl
[04:39] <gnomefreak> realize even
[04:50]  * cody-somerville wonders how long we should keep the security notice re: SSH pinned at the top of the fridge's front page.
[06:49] <geser> gnomefreak: I'm helping with the perl transition, it's primarily to figure out in which order the *-perl packages needs to get build. But I got slowed down a little bit as I'm waiting for some -perl packages to get synced which blocks a large part
[06:49] <gnomefreak> geser: ah ok thanks
[08:12] <pitti> Good morning
[08:14] <pitti> lifeless: pong
[08:14] <lifeless> pitti: yo
[08:14] <pitti> lifeless: argh latin locales argh? that sounds like a WONTFIX
[08:14] <lifeless> pitti: patches attached
[08:15]  * pitti looks at the bugs
[08:15] <lifeless> pitti: gdm and locales have esperanto, latin is no stranger
[08:15] <pitti> lifeless: ah, *this* Latin :)
[08:16] <pitti> lifeless: I thought it was about providing latin* encoded locales
[08:16] <pitti> lifeless: that's great, thanks!
[08:16] <Keybuk> cody-somerville:
[08:16] <Keybuk> +       // FIXME: potential mem-leak?
[08:16] <Keybuk> +       GtkStyle *style = gtk_style_copy(gtk_widget_get_style(fake));
[08:16] <Keybuk> so, someone got as far as realising that they were leaking memory
[08:16] <Keybuk> BUT NOT AS FAR AS FIXING IT! :)
[08:16] <slangasek> MD5_Update(buf, style);
[08:17] <pitti> lifeless: they need to be converted to a proper debian/patches/ patch and sent upstream, but I can deal with that (unless you beat me to it)
[08:17]  * cody-somerville was just about to download the source.
[08:18] <Keybuk> cody-somerville: see if you can fix it ;)
[08:21] <Keybuk> cody-somerville: if you install notification-daemon-dbgsym from ddebs.ubuntu.com and run notification-daemon under massif again, you'll get the actual relevant function names rather than just "in ubuntu.so"
[08:24] <cody-somerville> Keybuk, aye.
[08:25] <geser> Hi pitti
[08:27] <pitti> hey geser
[08:28] <lifeless> pitti: if you could, that would be cool
[08:28] <lifeless> pitti: I was entirely cargo culting here, my irst time fiddling with locale stuff
[08:29] <pitti> lifeless: sure; I assigned the bug to me, I'll get to it soon
[08:29] <lifeless> thanks!
[08:29] <lifeless> pitti: bugs surely ? :)
[08:29] <pitti> lifeless: right
[08:45]  * soren sighs
[08:46]  * cody-somerville pokes soren in the tummy.
[08:46] <soren> Could an archive admin please REJECT ubuntu-vm-builder 0.4-0ubuntu0.2?
[08:46]  * soren stomps on cody-somerville's foot
[08:47] <StevenK> soren: To hardy-proposed?
[08:48] <StevenK> Keybuk: So, I get permission denied reading from /dev/sdb
[08:48] <StevenK> Keybuk: How can I check this ACL?
[08:49] <Keybuk> getfacl
[08:49] <soren> StevenK: Yup.
[08:49] <pitti> soren: *flush*
[08:50] <StevenK> Keybuk: No ACL on /dev/sdb
[08:51] <slangasek> StevenK: what is /dev/sdb?
[08:51] <StevenK> slangasek: A 1GB USB key
[08:51] <slangasek> and you're logged in to a GNOME desktop on this system?
[08:52] <StevenK> I am
[08:53] <slangasek> want to bring me the USB key, so I can confirm it's not an issue with the USB detection?
[08:53] <StevenK> Sure. You're next door in Oder?
[08:53] <slangasek> platform, yes
[09:01] <ogra> Keybuk_, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/hardy-20080523-1.png
[09:01] <ogra> 19secs
[09:01] <ogra> (fiddling with the depmod)
[10:49] <StevenK> pitti: So, the issue with USB keys is the ACL isn't getting added. PolicyKit screwing up?
[10:53] <pitti> StevenK: do you have a ConsoleKit session? (ck-list-sessions)
[10:53] <StevenK> Yup
[10:55] <StevenK> pitti: Happy to dig, just need some pointers of where to start with the shovel
[10:56] <pitti> StevenK: ck-list-sessions is a good start
[10:57] <pitti> StevenK: but frankly, I'm not even sure whether we currently assign ACLs to USB block devices
[10:57] <pitti> StevenK: I'm just certain for scanners and cameras (PtP, not mass-storage)
[10:57] <slangasek> pitti: evidently not, I'm able to reproduce the issue here
[10:57] <slangasek> pitti: I think they just get magically auto-mounted without bothering to set an ACL
[10:57] <pitti> right, so it seems we just don't do it
[10:57] <slangasek> (which is, after all, the common use case)
[10:57] <pitti> (right)
[11:05] <Hobbsee> ffs.  stupid trolls.
[11:06] <lifeless> ?
[11:18] <Hobbsee> lifeless: people deciding to put in a whole bunch of genesis, pasted into this channel.
[11:18] <lifeless> oh, I didn't see it, muste be someone I have ignored
[11:28] <Q-FUNK> is there any page on e.g. LP where we can see the queue order for the hardy-proposed buildd?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Q-FUNK: yes buildfarm i just cant remember the links to them (atleast there used to be)
[11:30] <lifeless> james_w: ping; sabdfl is looking to chat
[11:43] <Q-FUNK> gnomefreak: found it. seems the package was done 3 hours ago. I'm just wondeirng when it will be installed.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> what package?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> please dont say firefox
[11:43] <Q-FUNK> xserver-xorg-video-geode
[11:43] <Q-FUNK> fire...sucks
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ah good :)
[11:44] <Q-FUNK> :)
[11:44] <Q-FUNK> bryce, ogra and I are just waiting for this to be installed to be able to debug with real hardware.
[12:03] <Q-FUNK> ogra: package built successfully 3 hours ago, but still not installed.
[14:05] <asac> crimsun: ping
[14:05] <anujalabot> hi
[14:06] <asac> crimsun: can you give me a brief update on the idea of the resurrection of libflashsupport
[14:06] <anuj4ubuntu> I am new bee and I really want to clear my fundamentals for Ubuntu/Linux as I am training to become admin for ubuntu servers
[14:06] <anuj4ubuntu> Pl advice if there free books /Guides on net which i can go through
[14:07] <bryce_> slangasek: when you get a break, timo and I would like to chat with you about the xserver version in hardy
[14:13] <andrew_sayers> anuj4ubuntu: I'm sure there must be.  You'd probably have more luck asking in #ubuntu though.
[14:15] <asac> crimsun: point is i tried flash 10 like 5 days ago with libflashsupport => crash
[14:16] <asac> so please clarify
[14:17] <slangasek> bryce_: madness, I say
[14:17] <bryce_> slangasek: but it's a thin minty stability xserver release :-)
[14:36] <anuj4ubuntu> hi please suggest me free online books of ubuntu/linux as i am new in this
[14:37] <anuj4ubuntu> i am really interested for leaRNING LINUX
[14:37] <anuj4ubuntu> PLZ SUGGEST ME SOME GOOD BOOKS
[14:39] <sads> Joshua 3
[14:39] <sads> Israel Crosses the Jordan
[14:39] <sads>  1 Then Joshua rose early in the morning; and they set out from Acacia Grove[a] and came to th Jordan, he and all the children of Israel, and lodged there before they crossed over. 2 So it was, after three days, that the officers went through the camp; 3 and they commanded the people, saying, .When you see the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, and the priests, thee Levites, bearing it, then you shall set out from your place
[14:39] <sads> 5 And Joshua said to the people, .Sanctify yourselves, for tomorrow the LORD will do wonders among you.. 6 Then Joshua spoke to the priests, saying, .Take up the ark of the covenant and cross over before the people..
[14:39] <sads> So they took up the ark of the covenant and went before the people.
[14:39] <sads> 7 And the LORD said to Joshua, .This day I will begin to exalt you in the sight of all Israel, that they may know that, as I was with Moses, so I will be with you. 8 You shall command the priests who bear the ark of the covenant, saying, .When you have come to the edge of the water of the Jordan, you shall stand in the Jordan...
[14:39] <sads> 9 So Joshua said to the children of Israel, .Come here, and hear the words of the LORD your God.. 10 And Joshua said, .By this you shall know that the living God is among you, and that He will without fail drive out from before you the Canaanites and the Hittites and the Hivites and the Perizzites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Jebusites: 11 Behold, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth is crossing over
[14:39] <sads> 14 So it was, when the people set out from their camp to cross over the Jordan, with the priests bearing the ark of the covenant before the people, 15 and as those who bore the ark came to the Jordan, and the feet of the priests who bore the ark dipped in the edge of the water (for the Jordan overflows all its banks during the whole time of harvest), 16 that the waters which came down from upstream stood still, and rose in a heap ve
[14:39] <cpufreak> thanks
[14:40] <[reed]> thanks
[14:40] <infinity> Keybuk: Too slow. :P
[14:40] <[reed]> team effort, woo!
[14:40] <Pici> again...
[14:40] <StevenK> Twitch
[14:40] <StevenK> Interesting how it's IPv6
[14:41] <Keybuk> well, someone has to use it
[14:41] <infinity> Only Christians, apparently.
[14:41] <StevenK> Haha
[14:41] <Keybuk> IPv6 is the protocol of GOD
[14:41] <StevenK> Who are driven to paste bible quotes into -devel
[14:42] <tjaalton> anuj4ubuntu: maybe no-one knows about free online books here.. try #ubuntu
[14:42] <[reed]> well, we've had the same thing happen on moznet, but the quotes eventually turn into GNAA propaganda
[14:44] <infinity> The sabdfl suffereth no propaganda in Ubuntu channels, save it be that of Free Software.
[14:44] <infinity> Amen.
[14:45] <Keybuk> ITYM Open Source
[14:48] <sabdfl> YOU CALLED?
[14:48] <Darklock> hey \[reed\] :-)
[14:49] <[reed]> Darklock: Hi.
[14:50] <infinity> sabdfl: I think that needed a puff of smoke or something to be more impressive.
[14:52] <sabdfl> infinity: a puff of smoke came out of my caps-lock key, does that count?
[14:52] <infinity> sabdfl: I suppose it'll have to do.
[14:53] <infinity> sabdfl: As dieties go, this seems somewhat ghetto.  I'll buy you a robe or something next conference.
[14:53] <infinity> deities, too.
[15:04] <sabdfl> i'd love to meet the dietie deity, and the tie-die deity too
[15:04] <sabdfl> +1 on the mo' bling front, too
[15:07] <sladen> more bling.  You want *mooore* bling.
[15:07] <sladen> I don't know want to suggest, sprinkling the CDs with gunpowder and magnesium so that the use is user is treated to fireworks on first use
[15:08] <tjaalton> just pop them in a microwave oven, that's blingy ;)
[15:09] <davmor2> sladen: Only on the condition that we perfect the firework art on your machines ;)
[15:10] <j-dizzle> exec kinit -R
[15:10] <j-dizzle> grr not you.
[15:11] <j-dizzle> crap. 3hrs too late.
[15:11] <davmor2> How about a gold leaf "Powered by Ubuntu" sticker for your pc's
[15:24] <thom> sabdfl: is bdale not the tie-die deity?
[15:38] <sabdfl> thom: you have a point there
[15:38] <sabdfl> that might make keithp the diet-y deity
[16:35]  * Hobbsee waits for the lunatic to come bakc.
[16:35] <Hobbsee> (when he does, please ban on sight)
[16:35] <jdavies> Hobbsee: to bad I can do naught
[16:36] <Hobbsee> jdavies: poke thom
[16:36] <jdavies> I think you just did
[17:46] <thom> Hobbsee: eh?
[18:49] <yao_ziyuan> i suggest that ubuntu set firefox's default sans, serif and mono fonts as bitstream vera ones
[18:50] <ion_> No, better use the fontconfig aliases.
[19:50] <Festor> #461774
[19:57] <foka> Hi!  Is there a way to "Unsubscribe someone else" whom I accidentally subscribed to a bug report?  Thanks!
[20:08] <sistpoty> foka: no, cf. bug #633
[20:09] <foka> sistpoty, Many thanks!
[20:09] <sistpoty> foka: you're welcome ;)
[20:35] <minterior> I'm having problems with recent ubuntu-server upgrade (from 6.06 to 8.04). My system hangs on reboot after init-bottom init script. Anyone knows how to fix it?
[20:37] <minterior> I've read that this is a bug, but I don't know how to fix it
[20:57] <pwnguin> how big is an ubuntu mirror in disk space these days?
[20:57] <pwnguin> 170GB?
[21:28] <jdavies> pwnguin: more, lots more (by what elmo says)
[21:28] <jdavies> pwnguin: you may wish to try asking in #ubuntu-mirrors
[21:28] <pwnguin> jdavies: ah, well the mirrors page says 170
[21:29] <CarlFK> jdavies: why do you ask?
[21:29] <CarlFK> er, not you.... pwnguin
[21:29] <jdavies> CarlFK: I think you mean pwnguin :)
[21:29] <CarlFK> yeah yeah - iz confused
[21:30] <pwnguin> CarlFK: well, some RTpatch idiot wrote me to say apt-rsync would be fine if i just un ar'd the deb, decompressed the tarballs and then untarred that
[21:30] <pwnguin> even at "only" 170GB, that's gotta be massive
[21:31] <CarlFK> im pretty sure I don't want to know any more :)
[21:34] <CarlFK> is there a way to tell the alt installer to use 'basic 80x25 text' and not whatever graphics based text thing it seems to do?
[23:03] <minterior> I'm having problems with recent ubuntu-server upgrade (from 6.06 to 8.04). My system hangs on reboot after init-bottom init script. Anyone knows how to fix it?
[23:04] <minterior> I've read that this is a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/116727), but I don't know how to fix it
[23:15] <ScottK-uds> minterior_: This is a channel for development only (see /topic).  Help for Ubuntu server is in #ubuntu-server although this is not a particularly good time of day for it.
[23:19] <[reed]> is there a way to search bzr branches for text?
[23:19] <[reed]> like, I have a phrase I want to find where it's located in (a) branch(es)
[23:19] <[reed]> is there a way?
[23:19] <ScottK-uds> I think there is a #bzr channel that would be a good place for such a question.
[23:22] <[reed]> well, it's not a bzr-specific question... it's more of a launchpad question
[23:22] <[reed]> but I can try there...
[23:23] <ScottK-uds> Then #launchpad
[23:23] <[reed]> Thanks.


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[00:22] <Unit193> Oh, speaking of such, UnrealIRCd can use the kill function rather than force nick change :D
[00:22] <jrgifford> :O really?
[00:22] <jrgifford> jwh1981: welcome!
[00:23] <Unit193> Yep, I have it set to allow 20 seconds (default is 60, and 0 is another option :D )
[02:28] <jandrusk> Any one use IRSSI?
[02:29]  * Unit193
[02:29]  * Unit193
[02:29] <Unit193> Well, I use irssi
[02:29] <jandrusk> Sweet.
[02:29] <Unit193> But, uh, I'm an idiot
[02:30] <jandrusk> Come on....
[02:34] <dzho> I don't know about IRSSI but I do use irssi
[02:34] <dzho> as for idiocy, I claim sometimes to do idiotic things, but I do not know if that makes me constituitively idiotic.
[02:46] <jandrusk> Do you think I need help if I find it fulfulling reading RFC documents?
[02:48] <Unit193> Maybe a bit
[02:49] <jandrusk> Thought so.
[02:50] <Unit193> But I am insane after all, not the best to ask
[02:55] <jandrusk> Wouldn't you have to be sane to diagnoise yourself as insane?
[02:55] <Unit193> People just keep telling me
[02:56] <Unit193> They also said only 3 told me, but I keep hearing it.... Something seems fishy....
[02:56] <jandrusk> That's assuming they are sane.
[02:56] <jandrusk> Are there really any sane Linux users? I think not.
[02:57] <Unit193> Some sure are, but sane people are boring or mean :D
[02:57] <jandrusk> lol
[04:13] <Unit193> jandrusk: Heh, taking a look around, nice. #ubuntu-irc is for more loco/everything else
[04:14] <jandrusk> Sweet. Checking it out.
[04:15] <Unit193> That doesn't have the "no idle" policy
[04:40]  * canthus13 wonders how long it'll take him to root his phone tomorrow...
[13:36] <jrgifford> jandrusk, I thought you were an emacs user, not an irssi user.
[18:04] <paultag> http://pastebin.com/w0HAkehR
[19:37] <dzho> man, logitech
[21:02] <Unit193> Howdy, like to connect two times? ;)
[21:02] <Unit193> Welcome to the Ubuntu Ohio LoCo
[21:04] <canthus13> ...I've had my phone for over an hour now. It should be rooted already. :/
[21:35] <jandrusk> jrgifford: I am both.
[22:23] <canthus13> Yay. rooted.
[22:24] <Unit193> Nice!


[02:48] <fairuz> excalibr: woot
[03:08] <excalibr> ..toow
[03:10] <excalibr> sedih la..pg tadi perasan internet down..tengok2 router dah kejong..
[03:10] <excalibr> lampu semua tak nyala langsung
[03:10] <excalibr> RIP
[03:28] <excalibr> /poke fairuz
[05:23] <excalibr> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=6620 ('Raspberry Pi • View topic - Will a power supply with a higher amp-age work with the pi?')
[06:13] <stickyboy> Good morning, Malaysia. :D
[06:33] <excalibr> morning stickyboy
[06:36] <stickyboy> excalibr: Good morning, from Kenya.
[06:39] <excalibr> from kenya? How did you stumble on this channel?
[06:54] <stickyboy> excalibr: I'm thinking of coming to Malaysia, so I decided to see if there was a GNU/Linux community :D
[06:57] <hyperair> hmm kenyans..
[06:58] <hyperair> every time the topic of kenyans comes up, i keep thinking how screwed we would all be if there were kenyan zombies around.
[06:58] <stickyboy> Heh, I'm American.  Living in Kenya. :D
[06:59] <stickyboy> I don't think Kenyan zombies would be worse than any other zombies.
[06:59] <hyperair> well...
[06:59] <hyperair> if they start running..
[06:59] <stickyboy> Ah :)
[06:59] <hyperair> don't hope to get away? ;-)
[06:59] <stickyboy> Also Ethiopians
[06:59] <hyperair> heheh
[07:00] <stickyboy> I was gonna go to California (home), but the plane ticket is **** expensive.
[07:00] <stickyboy> So I thought, "Malaysia sounds nice!" :P
[07:00] <hyperair> hahah
[07:00] <hyperair> vacation coming up?
[07:00] <stickyboy> Yah haha
[07:00] <stickyboy> I'm a Linux sysadmin at an NGO here
[07:01] <stickyboy> Doing high-performance computing; lots of storage, computing, etc.
[07:02] <hyperair> i see
[07:02] <hyperair> cool
[07:03] <stickyboy> Are you guys in Malaysia?
[07:15] <stickyboy> Is there much of a FOSS community in Malaysia?
[10:47] <stickyboy> Alright, I think I'm coming to Malaysia.
[12:35] <stickyboy> hyperair: So you're in Malaysia?
[12:39] <hyperair> stickyboy: nope, i'm in singapore.
[12:39] <stickyboy> Ah. :D  Lots of python hackers there I hear
[12:56] <hyperair> :)
[12:56] <hyperair> yeah there are
[12:56] <hyperair> i'm one too
[13:00] <stickyboy> Nice, I was experimenting with Pelican last night.
[13:00] <stickyboy> Gonna play with Tinkerer tonight.
[13:00] <stickyboy> Static blog generators. :D


[02:29] <kyle__> I don't suppose anyone here has had spinrite not launch on one of their servers, after it actually booted into freeods?  Tangentially on topic, because it's an ubuntu server ;)
[02:29] <kyle__> It just needs help
[02:31] <sarnold> spinrite? wow there's a name I haven't heard in ten years, give or take.. (in the sense of, "wow, there's aname I haven't heard of in ten years", at the time :)
[02:32] <kyle__> Yeah, some dumbass used a laptop drive when he got this r610 in his basement, because he was so excited to set it up, and put in an SSD a few weeks later.  All the data was moved over, just not the boot.
[02:32]  * kyle__ really hates that guy sometimes
[02:33] <sarnold> sounds like someone you ought not let near your computers :)
[02:33]  * sarnold nods
[02:33] <kyle__> Sometimes it feels that way.
[02:35] <kyle__> I guess I'll let it sit overnight and see if it (spinrite) starts up.
[02:35] <kyle__> Otherwise I know what I'm doing tomorrow after work :P
[02:38] <sarnold> btw what's the point of spinrite in 2020?
[02:40] <kyle__> It's a spinny drive that I put in there.  Also the bulk-storage drives in my NAS box are spinny, because that's still the best bang for the buck storage wise.
[02:40] <RoyK> ddrescue should do the same job
[02:40] <kyle__> Work only buys spinners reluctantly any more, and I'm almost at that point at home.
[02:40] <sarnold> but when you need a few dozen TB of space, they really are the cheapest way there :)
[02:40] <kyle__> Also, I really enjoy the security-now podcast, so it's kindof like giving the old guy a donation.
[02:41] <sarnold> but, like, what's the point of sipnrite? heh
[02:41] <sarnold> morning RoyK :)
[02:41] <kyle__> OK, really going to bed this time o7 night
[02:41] <sarnold> gnight kyle__
[03:06] <strixdio> I have pfsense running as a VM on ubuntu server, with a NIC passed through, but connected to the host over a bridge. host can ping guest. I have a laptop plugged into a port on the NIC, and for testing I have allowed all traffic in firewall rules. laptop cannot ping the ubuntu host. Might I be missing something? not sure if it's a pfsense issue,
[03:06] <strixdio> ubuntu issue, or user issue.
[03:07] <strixdio> originally I was thinking, maybe it has to do with ip_forward, but that didn't seem to do anything.
[03:11] <RoyK> sarnold: morning :)
[03:12] <RoyK> in-place fixing of drives isn't really my cup of tea
[03:19] <sarnold> I always thought of spinrite as a DOS FAT consistency thingy, so I'm surprised to hear of it again
[08:05] <lordievader> Good morning
[14:17] <martin__> I have unattended-upgrades to install security updates automatically, when I got to work this morning one of our servers were shutdown. It was terminated at 04 which is the same time I run
[14:17] <martin__> my automatic updates on... can anyone explain what the heck happened? I looked in the logs and I did not see it actually installed anything at 04 so am wondering if someone was pending from aa previous upgrade.
[14:17] <martin__> something was pending*
[15:23] <RoyK> martin__: I beleive I've seen that happen once or twice, which is why I generally don't restart servers automatically, but rather schedule downtime for that to be done.
[15:50] <samba35> is seems kernel -4.15.0-109 problem since upgrade to to this kernel system in panic error and yesterday it was not booting at all
[15:51] <samba35> how do block kerenel -109 block for some days or block tilll i manaully update
[16:11] <samba35> i try to hold
[16:18] <samba35> what is latest stable version with 18.04 ?
[16:19] <samba35> can some one please confirm ?
[17:22] <keithzg> Very baffled, I keep getting timeouts on file operations on a server but I can't seem to actually find anything throttling the io, or any errors that would indicate why suddenly things are failing :/
[17:24] <keithzg> The btrfs pool being used has user directories on it, so the big issue is email; Dovecot in particular seems to be having a lot of trouble (Postfix weirdly less so), the service won't even shut down although the log claims its been killed with signal 15.
[17:25] <keithzg> All started when I applied updates to this 18.04 install and rebooted two days ago.
[17:34] <keithzg> `kill -9`ing doesn't even seem to be able to remove the lingering dovecot processes . . . arghh
[17:51] <Ussat> Linux hc-vubuntutest 4.15.0-109-generic #110-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 23 02:39:32 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:51] <Ussat> on 18.04
[17:51] <Ussat> No issues here
[17:53] <genii> keithzg: Maybe sudo lsof|grep dovecot shows it busy in the middle of file operations of some sort which can't be closed
[18:26] <keithzg> genii: Good point, I should have thought of that! And I did see some indications that that was the case, buried in the logs, with Dovecot complaining about `cannot append message to file /home/username/mailmirror: unable to lock for exclusive access: Resource temporarily unavailable`. Have since just rebooted the damn server, and since then it has worked fine, but the same sequence of events happened yesterday, so I bet I'll get another chance for such
[18:26] <keithzg> introspection tomorrow . . .
[18:27] <keithzg> Hard to meaningfully troubleshoot when everyone is calling and texting saying "everything is broken!", really quite distracting lol
[18:32] <genii> keithzg: Maybe keep us posted, seems an interesting issue
[18:35] <keithzg[m]> genii: Shall definitely do . . .
[18:46] <coreycb> jamespage: regression testing passed on ussuri-proposed. I didn't promote any of your SRU packages though, will leave that to you.


[15:06] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu Open Week - Ask Mark Shuttleworth on now, xubuntu session will be at 15:00 UTC, 1 hour away
[15:07] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek


[16:00] <ahasenack> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 12 16:00:27 2017 UTC.  The chair is ahasenack. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:00] <powersj> o/
[16:00] <ahasenack> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:01] <ahasenack> 2 for nacc:
[16:01] <ahasenack> * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:01] <ahasenack> * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:01] <nacc> ahasenack: carry
[16:01] <ahasenack> carry over?
[16:01] <ahasenack> ok
[16:01] <ahasenack> #ACTION nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:01] <meetingology> ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:01] <ahasenack> #ACTION nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:01] <meetingology> ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:01] <ahasenack> * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:01] <ahasenack> he is off this week, so I will carry over
[16:02] <ahasenack> #ACTION rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:02] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:02] <ahasenack> #topic Artful Development
[16:02] <ahasenack> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule
[16:02] <ahasenack> next important date is...
[16:02] <ahasenack> final beta on the 28th
[16:03] <ahasenack> and final beta freeze the monday before, so 25th
[16:03] <ahasenack> #subtopic Current Work
[16:03] <ahasenack> #link https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server
[16:03] <ahasenack> that's our public trello board
[16:03] <cpaelzer> o/ late
[16:04] <ahasenack> we had two review columns (lists) in there, they were merged into one earlier this week
[16:04] <ahasenack> there was no need for such fine grained detail
[16:04] <ahasenack> now it fits in most widescreen monitors :)
[16:04] <ahasenack> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:04] <ahasenack> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:05] <ahasenack> I think if someone is working on a bug that he/she wants in artful, it should be nominated as such, then it will show up in this list
[16:05] <ahasenack> bugfix*, rather :)
[16:06] <ahasenack> I don't think the server team is using the milestones, at least I haven't seen them being used
[16:06] <ahasenack> but there is a 17.10 milestone for ubuntu
[16:06] <ahasenack> any comments?
[16:07] <ahasenack> moving on
[16:07] <cpaelzer> yes
[16:07] <cpaelzer> (to moving on)
[16:07] <ahasenack> ah :)
[16:07] <ahasenack> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet)
[16:07] <ahasenack> ddstreet: anything for us?
[16:07] <ddstreet> only update is the percona lp bug has a new patch attached that fixes the FTBFS
[16:07] <ddstreet> waiting for rbasak to review it
[16:07] <ddstreet> no other updates from STS team
[16:07] <ahasenack> he is on PTO this week
[16:08] <ahasenack> do you have a link to that bug?
[16:08] <ahasenack> so we can record it here
[16:08] <ddstreet> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5/+bug/1657256
[16:08] <ahasenack> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5/+bug/1657256
[16:08] <ahasenack> ddstreet: is that fixed in artful?
[16:08] <ddstreet> the patch is for artful
[16:08] <ahasenack> ok
[16:09] <ahasenack> hm, this bug should show up in the artful report from earlier
[16:09] <nacc> ahasenack: no, it's not targetting artful explicitly
[16:09] <nacc> hence why the above report is basically terminally brokenn
[16:09] <ahasenack> I added an artful nomination
[16:09] <nacc> we don't use it
[16:09] <ahasenack> if it's accepted, then it would show up there I think
[16:09] <nacc> ahasenack: yes, but it's not necessary in general
[16:10] <ahasenack> can someone other than rbasak review that? If not, then only when he is back, very close to the beta freeze
[16:11] <ahasenack> moving on
[16:11] <ddstreet> it would be great it anyone else could review it, though it can wait if not
[16:11] <ahasenack> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:11] <ahasenack> and
[16:11] <ahasenack> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:11] <ahasenack> if someone wants to call out any specific bugs
[16:12] <ahasenack> moving on
[16:12] <ahasenack> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)
[16:13] <powersj> Server ISOs are currently red due to a priority change, causing testing to fail. The priority change was with console-setup. A fix is committed, however, as of today I still see failures. Also ppc64el testing is on hold due to LP: #1709784
[16:13] <powersj> Last week also helped the git-ubuntu folks get linting and integration testing added to their CI. yea! \o/
[16:13] <powersj> This week my hope is to land the KVM backend for cloud-init testing and get ISO tests going again.
[16:13] <powersj> #info ISO testing is blocked by console-setup issues
[16:13] <powersj> #info git-ubuntu has CI
[16:13] <ahasenack> #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1709784
[16:14] <ahasenack> thanks powersj
[16:14] <ahasenack> oops, missed a link
[16:14] <ahasenack> #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/
[16:14] <ahasenack> moving on
[16:14] <ahasenack> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)
[16:14] <smb> Artful kernel will switch to 4.13 with the next proposed migration. Not sure how soon that is as this week there is Linux Plumbers which some attend.
[16:14] <smb> That would be all if there are no questions
[16:15] <ahasenack> thanks smb
[16:15] <ahasenack> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
[16:15] <ahasenack> #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/
[16:16] <ahasenack> I see https://cfp.openfest.org/?locale=en on the 15th
[16:16] <ahasenack> netdev  http://www.netdevconf.org/2.2/submit-proposal.html on the 20th
[16:16] <ahasenack> t-dose https://www.t-dose.org/2017/cfp on the 30th
[16:17] <ahasenack> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:17] <ahasenack> none that I'm aware of?
[16:17] <ahasenack> ok, last topic
[16:17] <ahasenack> #topic Open Discussion
[16:17] <ahasenack> anyone want to bring something up?
[16:18] <ahasenack> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:19] <ahasenack> #info Next meeting Tuesday, 2017-09-19 at 1600 UTC, chair will be cpaelzer
[16:19] <ahasenack> #endmeeting
[16:19] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 12 16:19:24 2017 UTC.
[16:19] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-09-12-16.00.moin.txt
[16:19] <powersj> thanks ahasenack
[16:21] <cpaelzer> thanks ahasenack, sorry for being distracted today
[16:21] <ahasenack> :)
[19:58] <MajB> AZLOCO Team is present and prepared for reverification
[19:58]  * markthomas is here for that.
[19:59]  * toddc is here
[19:59] <toddc> Go ubuntu-az
[20:00]  * MajB is here
[20:00] <markthomas> We figured that the first time you spoke.
[20:01] <MajB> Well I was just following suit
[20:01] <MajB> I didn't have any trump anyway
[20:01] <MajB> Now all we need is the LoCo Council members
[20:02] <markthomas> MajB you aren’t running this time around?
[20:02] <markthomas> I’d vote for you.
[20:02] <MajB> This certainly cannot be a repeat of 2015.
[20:06] <MajB> wxl status
[20:09] <markthomas> crickets chirping.
[20:10] <toddc> give it 5 more?
[20:10] <MajB> wxl is on line but probably away from his computer.
[20:11] <MajB> It is their agenda.
[20:12] <MajB> They have known about this for a month.  Perhaps that is why we have so few verified Ubuntu LoLo Teams
[20:12] <wxl> i'm here
[20:13] <wxl> unfortunately i do have work which sadly takes precedence
[20:13] <wxl> do we have any other loco members?
[20:13] <MajB> I believe you are the only one present
[20:14] <wxl> unfortunately very little is going to be done wrt to decision making if there are no others
[20:14] <wxl> let me do some poking
[20:21] <wxl> i have now tried to reach out to members of the loco council and the larger community council and have not heard back from anyone
[20:22] <MajB> Recommendation?
[20:22] <wxl> i would suggest that we handle the re-verification by email
[20:22] <wxl> in reality, you folks are in no danger of not getting re-verified :)
[20:23] <MajB> We are aware of that but we still need to be approved.
[20:23] <wxl> typically we do this via bugs to track everything. i'll get in touch with you ASAP about it
[20:23] <wxl> remind me your launchpad again?
[20:23] <wxl> (the team)
[20:24] <MajB> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-arizona
[20:24] <wxl> 1s
[20:24] <MajB> Revalidation application:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Re-validationApplication2017
[20:25] <wxl> ah good
[20:25] <wxl> you don't expired until november. i'm sure we can get this done well ahead of time
[20:26] <wxl> should some monkey wrench keep it from happening in a timely manner, i will gladly extend your status in ~locoteams-verified until that time which we can get this all fixed
[20:26] <wxl> again, apologies
[20:26] <MajB> expires 17 September
[20:26] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/~locoteams-verified/+members#active
[20:27] <wxl> @meetingology 2017-11-17
[20:27] <wxl> oops
[20:27] <wxl> i have no idea how that call to meetingology got in there O_O
[20:27] <markthomas> It does say november on that link.
[20:29] <wxl> do you agree with markthomas, MajB, or are you seeing something different?
[20:29] <MajB> I had a link that said 17 Sep but I will accept 17 Nov if you say so
[20:30] <wxl> if you have an email with that link in it, click on the link. it should show the november one
[20:30] <wxl> if that's not the case, please get in touch
[20:31] <toddc> I belive I deleted it and just planed on todays meeting
[20:32] <toddc> in past we have had delays so it may be that the remindwe is based on the original date vs our last renewall date
[20:33] <wxl> yeah probably
[20:33] <wxl> and this is an especially tight period for the LoCo Council
[20:33] <wxl> i technically expired but in lieu of having any additional candidates, i offered to step up and help
[20:34] <wxl> that said, if you could extend a little patience to us, we will make sure to get you verified
[20:34] <toddc> lat time we had the same issue that delayed aproval for several months
[20:34] <wxl> i will also ensure that you do not expire from the verified list, so that you can reap the benefits thereof
[20:34] <toddc> minor details
[20:34] <wxl> yes, all i can say is i'm sorry :(
[20:35] <toddc> no problem just let us know what we can do
[20:35] <wxl> i will absolutely be in touch
[20:36] <toddc> thank you
[20:36] <wxl> thank you all!
[20:36] <toddc> Thanks to all that showed up to support az


[19:56] <h2837> hi there i just installed  ubuntu studio and the calendar is fucked up... in other language.
[19:57] <h2837> an easy solution monsters
[19:57] <h2837> ...
[19:59] <h2837> why would there be an application called gigolo....
[20:08] <OvenWerks> gigolo is probably no longer needed as all the file managers I know of handle the same job.
[20:35] <h2937> happy to tell you all i managed to edit locale to fix my calendar


[02:21] <pleia2> ...and now in the right place
[02:21] <pleia2> 19:20:31 < pleia2> phew, after release is so crazy :)
[02:21] <pleia2> 19:20:47 < pleia2> http://ostatic.com/blog/enough-ubuntu-yet is helpful if we're looking to fill in some things (but we probably won't have to, so many articles!)
[02:33] <pleia2> akgraner: I don't really understand the "sneak peek" section, what is it exactly?
[02:36] <pleia2> and adding a cloud section seems fine to me
[02:51] <akgraner> it's what we use to add links that we can't expand in the news letter b/c it would make the newsletter too long
[02:53] <akgraner> so it's links that belong in the news letter b/c they were posted during the dates the newsletter covers - just interesting articles that are 1)Ubuntu releated, 2) FOSS related that would be of interest to Ubuntu users for one reason or another
[02:53] <pleia2> akgraner: I meant content-wise :) the tattoo should probably be in the planet section, not sure why we'd include something about google buzz?
[02:53] <akgraner> b/c many ubuntu users use google and post on google buz
[02:53] <akgraner> buzz
[02:54] <pleia2> a lot of us use cars too
[02:54] <akgraner> so it's nice to have information that they are doing away with it
[02:54] <pleia2> just seems like a lot to cover, android is at least linux and we don't cover that
[02:54] <akgraner> and it's just links to other items of interest
[02:54]  * pleia2 shrugs
[02:54] <pleia2> I don't like it, but we should leave it open for discussion
[02:54] <akgraner> sometimes we do :-) but we need to cull some of the links for sure
[02:55] <akgraner> we've used it on and off - over the years
[02:55] <pleia2> yeah, there are too many links right now :)
[02:55] <akgraner> usually when there are too many links
[02:55] <akgraner> and we want to include it all but can't
[02:55] <akgraner> so we just post the title and the link
[02:55] <pleia2> it's just confusing to me because there are too many ubuntu-specific links and now we're covering random google stuff too
[02:55] <akgraner> no summary
[02:55] <pleia2> why not overflow with ubuntu links?
[02:56] <pleia2> or at least linux links
[02:56] <akgraner> we can - like I said we (me or otherwise need to cull some things and just move others around
[02:56] <akgraner> )
[02:56] <pleia2> ok
[02:56] <akgraner> I agree with ya :-)
[02:57] <akgraner> sometimes I just add stuff there to go back and look over it later
[02:57]  * pleia2 nods
[02:57] <akgraner> half of what I've put there over the years never makes it to the final release
[02:57] <akgraner> :-)
[02:58] <akgraner> sometimes what I thought was interesting on one day - the day of publishing I got - why is that there
[02:58] <akgraner> :-)
[02:58] <akgraner> s/got/go
[02:58] <pleia2> fair enough, I was just unfamiliar with the section and the seeming randomness confused me
[02:58] <akgraner> no worries - I'll pull the original description for it
[02:59] <pleia2> cool, thanks :)
[03:00] <akgraner> we can always modify it :-)  this (UWN) is meant to be a document/publication that grows as the community does - so it's good to exam and question the sections at various points throughout the years and stuff
[03:00]  * pleia2 goes to finish up last bit of cluster migration (woo done before UDS!)
[03:00] <akgraner> the history of how each section gets added is really cool :-)
[03:00] <philipballew> need any help this weekend?
[03:00] <akgraner> yay!
[03:00] <akgraner> philipballew, always :-)
[03:00] <akgraner> I'll re-arrange stuff in the morning
[03:00] <philipballew> alright. what stage are we at in the week?
[03:00] <akgraner> and get stuff in the right places :-)
[03:01] <akgraner> what do you mean?
[03:01] <pleia2> philipballew: you're on my "summary writers" email list right? when we're ready for summaries I'll send that mail out
[03:01] <akgraner> pleia2, thanks for doing that btw :-)
[03:01] <pleia2> yep, you are
[03:01] <pleia2> sure
[03:01] <philipballew> I am, just didnt know if anything specific needed to be done
[03:01] <pleia2> akgraner: it's shared with the news editor gmail account if you ever need it
[03:02] <pleia2> (the list of email addresses and text of the message I send out each week)
[03:02] <akgraner> ahh ok thanks!
[03:04] <akgraner> pleia2, sorry for confusing you...
[03:04] <pleia2> akgraner: no apology needed, thanks for the clarification :)
[03:04] <akgraner> I'll go through those tomorrow when I am wide eyed and fully awake and probable ask myself - what was I thinking :-)
[03:05] <akgraner> probably even
[03:05] <pleia2> you can go ahead and cull the press and blogosphere stuff too
[03:05] <pleia2> I added a bunch, some should get removed
[03:05] <akgraner> will do  - I'll try to get all that done in the morning so by the afternoon  - you can look over it and send out the summary email
[03:06] <pleia2> ok cool
[03:06] <akgraner> I think we are getting this in a really good groove now
[03:06] <pleia2> yeah :)
[03:06] <pleia2> it'll be great to get the wiki and all our documentation updated now that we're in a good spot
[03:06] <akgraner> yeppers
[03:06] <akgraner> that's my number 1 goal for this cycle in regards to the news team
[03:07] <akgraner> well that and more volunteers :-)
[03:07]  * pleia2 nods
[03:08] <akgraner> more tomorrow then - have fun with cluster migration :-)
[03:08] <pleia2> thanks :) have a good night
[03:11] <akgraner> you too
[03:11] <akgraner> last home football game - no more concession stand or dealing with band parents for me this season :-)
[19:32] <akgraner> pleia2, forgot I had to steam clean the carpets and get everything ready to head to Orlando etc this morning - will jump into UWN before I go to bed tonight
[19:33] <pleia2> akgraner: should we hold off asking for summaries until you can go through them?
[19:33] <pleia2> would hate to have people write summaries for things we end up deleting :\


[09:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted usb-creator [source] (hirsute-proposed) [0.3.9]
[09:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted budgie-artwork [source] (hirsute-proposed) [0.13.8]
[09:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zeitgeist [source] (hirsute-proposed) [1.0.3-4ubuntu1]
[09:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-mate-settings [source] (hirsute-proposed) [21.04.6]
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-biopython (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.78+dfsg-4 => 1.78+dfsg-4ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-biopython [source] (hirsute-proposed) [1.78+dfsg-4ubuntu1]
[12:30] <ahasenack>  <ahasenack> hello ubuntu-archive, when someone as a few moments, if you could please promote rsyslog-gnutls to main in bionic, focal, groovy, wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/388605, thanks in advance!
[13:47] <teward> who manages queuebot?
[13:47] <teward> 'cause it needs cycled to be readded to #ubuntu-dmb thanks to the chaos of the services reboot today
[14:17] <rbasak> stgraber maybe? ^
[14:29] <stgraber> Yeah, will restart it
[14:30] <stgraber> done
[15:09] <doko> looks like some autopkg testers are stuck, running tests since April 02, like chiark-tcl and boost*
[15:27] <vorlon> ahasenack: hmm, reusing the rsyslog MIR from 2009, not sure about that one :)
[15:28] <ahasenack> vorlon: we talked about it in the foundations meeting
[15:29] <ahasenack> vorlon: and I got a second ACK from the securithy team
[15:29] <vorlon> ahasenack: about reusing the MIR bug?
[15:29] <vorlon> ahasenack: the promotion is fine, I don't like this being added as tasks on a 12-year-old bug
[15:29] <ahasenack> yes, and check the comment they added
[15:32] <ahasenack> that bug has all the context, and the new comments from the involved parties
[15:32] <ahasenack> MIR team, security team
[15:33] <ahasenack> someone looking at "why is rsyslog-gnutls in main?" will find it and all the reasoning
[15:33] <vorlon> ahasenack: promoted
[15:34] <ahasenack> thank you!
[16:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: privoxy (hirsute-proposed/universe) [3.0.32-1ubuntu1 => 3.0.32-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[16:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted privoxy [sync] (hirsute-proposed) [3.0.32-2]
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng (hirsute-proposed/main) [0.15.0-0ubuntu1 => 0.15.0-0ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[18:31] <luna> hello
[18:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinder (hirsute-proposed/main) [2:18.0.0~b1-0ubuntu1 => 2:18.0.0~b1-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[19:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fence-agents (bionic-proposed/universe) [4.0.25-2ubuntu1.2 => 4.0.25-2ubuntu1.3] (no packageset)
[19:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xgammon (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.99.1128-4 => 0.99.1128-4ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[19:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xgammon [source] (hirsute-proposed) [0.99.1128-4ubuntu1]
[19:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fence-agents (focal-proposed/universe) [4.5.2-1 => 4.5.2-1ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)
[20:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nvidia-settings (hirsute-proposed/main) [460.56-0ubuntu1 => 460.56-0ubuntu2] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[20:29] <teward> ubuntu-archive: nvidia-settings is in hirsute-proposed pending acceptance, it's a bug only fix that fixes nvidia-settings so that xfce4-sensors-plugin doesn't FTBFS.
[20:29] <teward> please accept it.
[20:29] <teward> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/1922583
[20:30] <vorlon> teward: please note that this is the domain of the release team, not of the archive team
[20:30] <teward> oops force of habit
[20:30] <teward> sorry vorlon :)
[20:30] <teward> Release Team: ^^
[20:31] <teward> *yawns, then goes to get coffee*
[20:31] <teward> (caffeine required)
[20:49] <mwhudson> vorlon: well you do confuse matters by being on All The Teams :-)
[21:10] <teward> wasn't gonna say it, but mwhudson saidit for me so :P
[21:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: squid (hirsute-proposed/main) [4.13-1ubuntu3 => 4.13-1ubuntu4] (ubuntu-server)
[22:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xemacs21 (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.4.24-9 => 21.4.24-9ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[22:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xemacs21 [source] (hirsute-proposed) [21.4.24-9ubuntu1]
[22:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xawtv (hirsute-proposed/universe) [3.107-1 => 3.107-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[22:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xawtv [source] (hirsute-proposed) [3.107-1ubuntu1]
[22:44] <sergiodj> hi, I've uploaded squid in order to fix a FTBFS on s390x (reported by doko).  I think an AA will need to review & approve it.  TIA
[23:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted squid [source] (hirsute-proposed) [4.13-1ubuntu4]
[23:03] <sergiodj> thanks


[07:00] <wgrant> blr: Evening.
[07:09] <blr> wgrant: morning!
[07:10] <wgrant> blr: I saw that your default clone_from thing landed, testing it now.
[07:10] <wgrant> Did you make any progress on the init with alternates?
[07:10] <blr> wgrant: merged your recent changes into the alternates branch as well now, which is much better - only change in the view is docstrings for repo:repo
[07:10] <wgrant> Great.
[07:11] <blr> the only thing I'm a little uncertain about is that there is now obvious place to cleanup the ephemeral repo - I've added a repo_cleanup() method to both diff functions, but it might be better to have a sweeper do this later
[07:11] <blr> s/now/no/
[07:12] <wgrant> I think that using a context manager makes sense.
[07:13] <wgrant> eg. "with open_repo(blahblah) as repo:" would ensure that it's always cleaned up at the end.
[07:45] <wgrant> The autocloning stuff works well, with one unforeseen issue.
[07:45] <wgrant> The connectivity check on push uses rev-list --not --all, but --all only looks in the local ref.
[07:45] <wgrant> s
[07:46] <wgrant> So my first push to ~wgrant/ubuntu/+source/linux took a bit over a minute, as it ended up walking the entire tree when it had no known-good refs.
[07:46] <wgrant> It may be worth patching git to let rev-list consider alternate refs as well.
[07:47] <wgrant> But it's just a bit slow on first push, not a serious problem.
[07:47] <wgrant> Particularly not for sensibly sized repos.
[07:50] <wgrant> blr: What d oyou think of the context manager approach to ensure the ephemeral repo is always cleaned up?
[07:56] <blr> wgrant: yep that sounds sensible, I'll have another pass
[07:57] <wgrant> Thanks.
[07:57] <wgrant> Let me know how it goes.
[10:14] <blr> wgrant: open_repo() is a contextmanager now, that should be ready for you
[10:15] <wgrant> blr: Let me see.
[10:16] <wgrant> lifeless: I think you can do away with repo.ephemeral and cleanup_repo now, since you only call cleanup_repo in the ephemeral case.
[10:17] <wgrant> Er
[10:17] <wgrant> blr: ^^
[10:17] <wgrant> This ssh latency is really awful for typing.
[10:19] <blr> wgrant: quite, that's a fairly useless function now.
[10:20] <blr> ok pushed
[10:22] <wgrant> blr: Couple of other trivial comments, then I think it's all good.
[10:24] <blr> wgrant: hmm actually, in get_commit repo=None is used to prevent us re-initialising repositories in get_commits
[10:24] <wgrant> Ah, that's right.
[10:24] <blr> not certain how to perserve that nicely in the context of the context manager
[10:25] <wgrant> blr: Maybe get_commits and get_commit should call a private method which just takes a repo that must already be open.
[10:27] <blr> that sounds reasonable, I'll sort that out in the morning, getting late
[10:27] <blr> thanks wgrant
[10:27] <wgrant> Night.
[10:35] <cjwatson> wgrant: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/git-fix-clone-from-owner-default/+merge/257622 if you get a minute, little bit of cleanup
[10:37] <cjwatson> wgrant: Creating MPs on the webservice now works, though https://code.qastaging.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/germinate/+git/germinate/+ref/exp/+merge/254302 will OOPS in the web UI for now.
[11:58] <wgrant> cjwatson: Nice, how's the testing of the remaining KLOC going?
[12:11] <cjwatson> wgrant: Making progress, just thinking about how to mangle TestRegisterBranchMergeProposalView suitably.
[12:11] <cjwatson> wgrant: Have you heard anything from IS?
[12:13] <wgrant> cjwatson: We're yellow.
[12:13] <cjwatson> Ah yes, thanks for the score bump.
[12:48] <cjwatson> wgrant: Is there any equivalent of SQLObjectVocabularyBase for Storm?
[12:55] <wgrant> cjwatson: I don't think so.
[12:57] <cjwatson> I wonder if I should write one.  I just noticed that GitRepositoryVocabulary is wrong.
[12:58] <wgrant> It would not be a huge task.
[16:55] <cjwatson> https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/storm-vocabulary-base/+merge/257655 https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/git-mp-basic-browser/+merge/257674 https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/git-mp-register/+merge/257676 are all the MP stuff I have so far, except for my in-progress stuff on preview diffs.
[16:56] <cjwatson> Should be (barely) enough to go live with.
[17:24] <xnox> cjwatson: did you see recent discussions about git / merge proposal workflows on debian-devel et.al.?
[17:25] <xnox> cjwatson: it would be cool if launchpad would support emailing in git-bundle(1) to create mp just like one can with bzr bundles
[17:25] <cjwatson> xnox: I noticed the thread, but we have a fair bit still to do before getting to that kind of point
[17:26] <xnox> cjwatson: sure. plus i believe git-bundle has insufficient information as usual in the git world. E.g. bzr bundle encodes public/parent/submit branch locations, and git bundle does not as far as i remember....
[17:27] <wgrant> bzr bundle slso hasn't worked since 2009
[17:28] <xnox> wgrant: the email interface or the bundles themself?!
[17:29] <cjwatson> Yes, I wondered why I couldn't find any of this alleged-to-exist code
[17:29] <xnox> i sure used bundles as recent as 2013-2014 e.g. generate it somewhere throw into usb-stick or email and pull from it on the other end....
[17:29] <wgrant> bundles never worked with 2a
[17:29] <wgrant> so the LP side was removed
[17:34] <xnox> wgrant: just tested works here.... created --unchanged commit, branched, created --unchanged commit, bzr bundle ../first-branch, then branch first branch again and pulled from the bundle
[17:34] <xnox> got matching revision-ids out of it....
[17:34]  * xnox is sad =(
[17:43] <wgrant> ah yes, the unchanged test :P
[17:43] <wgrant> that crestes little new 2a data
[18:15] <xnox> wgrant: well i did merges and the like... and it didn't fail me.
[18:16] <xnox> althoguht plenty of things are broken with ghost revisions
[18:24] <wgrant> hmmm
[18:30] <lifeless> wgrant: I can? thanks
[18:34] <wgrant> lifeless: 500ms sucks
[18:38] <lifeless> aye, where art thou?
[18:38] <wgrant> Malta
[18:38] <lifeless> nice
[18:38] <wgrant> after Austin and London
[18:38] <lifeless> I don't miss those trips
[18:39] <wgrant> it's certainly a new experimebt in blood caffeine content
[20:19] <blr> this looks like it might be useful https://github.com/libgit2/pygit2/pull/525
[20:39] <cjwatson> blr: I thought about backporting it, but reckoned I could probably just reuse the stuff in LP (actually bzrlib I think) for now and no rush to backport.  But I might change my mind if that turns out to be non-trivial :)
[20:39] <cjwatson> (That is, it looked like it'd be less work to reuse)
[20:41] <blr> right
[20:42] <cjwatson> We'll see - I'm going to try to finish the LP side of preview diffs tomorrow
[22:51] <lifeless> wgrant: whats em1.rapid.c.c ?
[22:51] <lifeless> cjwatson: ^
[22:51] <lifeless> thomi: ^
[22:52] <lifeless> blr: ^
[22:52] <lifeless> any two-letter nicks around ?
[22:57] <cjwatson> lifeless: replacement for batuan, if you remember that
[22:57] <lifeless> cjwatson: no; I've just got hold of the ops VG so we're good
[22:57] <lifeless> cjwatson: thanks
[22:57] <cjwatson> VPN endpoint for misc crap
[23:01] <wgrant> lifeless: what was it spamming you with?
[23:01] <lifeless> wgrant: git requests. see #openstack-infra. blahdeblah is on it
[23:04] <thomi> hmmm?
[23:05]  * thomi makes whooshing motion above his head
[23:05] <wgrant> hmm
[23:05] <lifeless> thomi: outbound NAT gateway for OIL it appears
[23:05] <cjwatson> not totally implausible
[23:06] <thomi> I know what some of those words mean, so yay!
[23:06] <wgrant> for moat of the weird non-IS-managee labs
[23:06] <thomi> wgrant: how's Malta?  Actually its the CI nature of it that led me to ping you
[23:09] <thomi> ahh
[23:09] <lifeless> non-CI doesn't need many many many accesses to the same git repos
[23:09] <wgrant> yep
[23:09] <thomi> blissfull ignornace is my motto...
[23:09] <lifeless> thomi: and I hear you've done some CI stuff
[23:09] <wgrant> anyway, night avain
[23:10] <lifeless> wgrant: night, thanks. cjwatson ditto


[00:01] <starcraftman> MangaKaDenza: Don't believe so, it's just a gui. You'd probably need a script on cron like I first suggested with setfacl commands for the user/group in question.
[01:06] <Deet`> can i make live disk iso of a current install?
[01:25] <starcraftman> Deet`: You mean archive your current install? Sure, you can do a complete archive with something like dd onto another drive and then compress it to restore late.
[01:25] <starcraftman> Deet`: Info here> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[01:26] <starcraftman> Deet`: If you meant making an ISO to do blank installs eslewhere, this method wouldn't be suitable, I'd download a new iso for the copy in question.
[01:26] <Deet`> no, i want to take a fresh install, add a few necessiary apps and settings and then make a live disk from it to keep on a multiboot usb
[01:51] <PimpSmurf> heya. How do I watch quicktime videos in chrome?
[01:51] <PimpSmurf> Google points to packages that were removed
[01:51] <PimpSmurf> w64codecs, etc
[06:24] <panini> hi
[06:25] <panini> pls can anybody help me
[07:27] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:08] <krise> Hi , can anybody recommend me what is the best POS softvare for linux
[09:08] <krise> i need to keep eye on my warehouse and make invoices
[09:10] <krise> mabe there is even some free software that u can use in browser
[09:10] <krise> that will be even better
[10:17] <claycorn3> cant get software center to work
[10:17] <claycorn3> fotgot the terminal code
[10:20] <Smurphy> Since I upgraded to 13.10 (from 13.04) on my mac mini, I do hear through audio all Hard disk accesses ... Anyone noticed that ? Really weird. Nothing I did actually solved it a bit.
[10:22] <Smurphy> I had that a long time ago, and removed pulseaudio and that fixed it...  Hmmm ...
[10:57] <dmatt> kgpg on 13.10, I imported my key from old notebook and could not set trust to ultimate (actually could not change it at all - always returns to "I do not know" )
[11:37] <dashavoo> Hi - I was just searching for info about linux for tablets. I was wondering what the current status of kubuntu-active is?
[13:43] <systemclient> I just booted a the 13.10 ISO in a virtual machine, tried to launch `dbus` and got an error: `qdbus: could not find a Qt installation of ''`. What is up with that?
[13:43] <systemclient> on my main system, which is upgraded from 13.04, qdbus did not work either ...
[13:44] <systemclient> and all permissions that seem to be given through dbus, do not work either. What happend to all this?
[16:30] <ScottyK> is there a step by step guide somewhere to get two kubuntu 13.10 computers to share files betwen each other? Not having much luck gettng them to "talk".
[17:06] <hyper_ch> hi there, I just installed kubuntu 13.10 on a new notebook and use the "use all disk" option. Install went smoothly but upon reboot it just hangs at grub
[17:50] <ct529> hi everybody. Just installed 13.10 64 bit from scratch .... after updating from 13.04 and having tons of problems.
[17:51] <ct529> but there are also tons of problems in install from scratch ....
[17:53] <ct529> moun does no search through packages,you cannot manage groups anymore .... what the heck is going on?
[17:57] <ct529> where are the administration packages that allow you to manage groups? They are not accessible through settinsg anymore. How do I create new groups?
[18:02] <Avihay_> ct529: I don't think muon had a good search even before the upgrade
[18:02] <ct529> Avihay: well, at least it searched, not it returns blank pages.
[18:04] <Avihay> still an inferior to synaptic
[18:05] <ct529> Avihay: agree completely .... I do not think we should release unless it is up to scratch, who decided to remove kuser??????
[18:07] <Avihay> removed? or not installe dby deafult?
[18:08] <ct529> Avihay: yes, I mean it is removed from the basic installtion, you have to manually install it afterwards .... as if!!!! Who does not need user management?
[18:11] <Avihay> Everyone with a single user setup. I think they removed kuser from the default installed setup because it was starting to "bit-rot". I think it encourages  people to fix or find new solutions or something. this conversation is getting #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:17] <ct529> Avihay: in what way? this is about kubuntu.
[18:18] <Avihay> yes, but this is a support channel [read topic], for people who need help
[18:18] <ct529> Avihay: well, I have been asking a few time how do yu do group management in 13.10.
[18:19] <ct529> Avihay: (unix groups)
[18:21] <ct529> Avihay: it sounds to me a support question.
[18:21] <Avihay> http://www.tutorialspoint.com/unix/unix-user-administration.htm
[18:22] <ct529> Avihay: thanks, I know how to manage it from CLI!
[18:23] <ct529> Avihay: what happened to the interface we used for the last 5 releases this is the point? What do I do, I go back and tecah everybody in the house and at work to use the CLI/
[18:23] <ct529> ?
[18:23] <ct529> Avihay:  I am utterly fed up because I have been using kubuntu since 6.10, and everytime you do a fresh install for any reason everything seems to change around and you have to start from scratch.
[18:25] <Avihay> I know what you mean, but I havn't been hurt so bad as to want to switch to opensuse or another KDE distro
[18:26] <Avihay> I guess you can still get kuser, or use the gnome thing
[18:27] <ct529> Avihay:I did not want to install gnome stuff not to mess up the installtion. Anyway, thanks all the same. Have a nice evening!
[18:28] <Avihay> you too
[18:53] <EvilRoey> hi
[18:53]  * MangaKaDenza puffs
[18:53] <EvilRoey> I am tyring to use the "at" command to schedule a command.  Nothing runs though!
[18:59] <MangaKaDenza> whee!
[18:59] <MangaKaDenza> my computer is slowing to a crawl
[19:00] <MangaKaDenza> <3 f@home
[19:04] <EvilRoey> ah never mind, PEBCAK on my part
[19:04] <EvilRoey> wee
[19:07] <georgelappies> Hi all, do any of you experience a black screen for two seconds or so while login in to KDE using 13.10? This did not happen in 13.04
[19:07] <georgelappies> the transition from login to desktop in 13.04 was a smooth fade effect
[20:10] <MangaKaDenza> gaiz
[20:10] <MangaKaDenza> I have
[20:10] <MangaKaDenza> a question
[20:10] <MangaKaDenza> how do I unlock all root files permanently?
[20:10] <ke-> Any idea why VirtualBox (windows) won't run kubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso ? It says kernel panic and stuff
[20:13] <genii> MangaKaDenza: You don't. More importantly: what are you trying to accomplish that you perceive this is needed.
[20:13] <MangaKaDenza> one word
[20:13] <ke-> Madness
[20:14] <genii> ke-: Probably corrupt. Did you do md5 check?
[20:14] <ke-> Nah, not really
[20:14] <MangaKaDenza> apache server files in /var/www but I want to make a file but I cant put index.html in it
[20:14] <blueazimuth> kdesu dolphin
[20:14] <MangaKaDenza> y tank u
[20:14] <blueazimuth> it'll let you use the file manager as root
[20:15] <blueazimuth> do only what is necessary
[20:15] <MangaKaDenza> kdesu dolphin
[20:15] <genii> !md5 | ke-
[20:15] <ke-> Thanks man
[20:15] <MangaKaDenza> wat
[20:16] <thingy> Does anybody know why there are multiple backends for akonadi but akonadi-server is packaged to only depend on the mysql one? This forces a rdbms on a desktop system when the sqllite backend would have been enough.
[20:22] <thingy> hmm, ok nvm, came across a launchpad bug for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/988889. It seems that upstream only support the mysql backend. awww
[20:22] <ke-> Strange, genii.. Didn't help with a new file either
[20:23] <ke-> Can't be bothered now anyways
[21:40] <metalus> alguien en español?
[21:42] <wxl> !es | metalus
[21:42] <metalus> gracias
[21:43] <wxl> de nada
[21:48] <CygnusS> hi! i'm trying to update to 13.10 - sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade returns "403  Sorry, not allowed to fetch that type of file: saucy.tar.gz.gpg "...
[21:49] <CygnusS> any hints?
[21:58] <kensum> Has anybody had any problems with the muon updater; mine hangs on fetching files but when after a bit I force close, it has updated the system.
[22:38] <rosco_y> is there an easy-to-use software for recording a desktop with sound to a video file?
[22:39] <rosco_y> I tried "Kazaam" and "recordMyDesktop" without luck
[22:59] <schultza> how up-to-date is kde in kubuntu?
[23:04] <ke-> It's hip to the hop
[23:19] <schultza> kde 4.11.2 ?
[23:47] <apb> Across the bottom of my screen is the task list panel.  Mousing over each item causes a menu to "drop up".  Those "dropups" are translucent.  How can I make them opaque?  kubuntu 12.04