[00:00] <mneptok> peter77: use the beta CD.
[00:00] <VeN0mizer> ...alright *scratches head* won't argue with you on that one lol
[00:00] <BarryToeman> Siph0n: well, at least it works better than my suggestions
[00:00] <joe1> peter: it gets released in less than two weeks, just wait it out ;)
[00:00] <ShdwShinobi> afewnips-o-ubunt, I'm using gutsy with all the updates, do you think if I used hardy it might fix my problem?
[00:00] <peter77> mneptok, am doing :-)
[00:00] <dmsuperman> ShdwShinobi, if you do decide to try it out, I highly suggest a full disk backup, becaue quite a few people come in here with issues for hardy
[00:01] <CorbinFox> I am having a problem where the desktop freezes for a split second to a second every little bit.  there is sometihng logged in the Xorg log but I don't know how to figure out what is going on.  any help?  I was told once that maybe turning off one of my cores may solve the problem, but i dont know how to do it.  A boot command maybe?
[00:01] <spork969> what is the bash command to create a folder?
[00:01] <peter77> mneptok, probably put on a RW so as I can erase it later
[00:01] <joe1> peter: the new kernel that came out a couple days ago is NOT stable
[00:01] <dmsuperman> CorbinFox, 1: You can't really turn off a core. 2: sounds like a driver issue
[00:01] <joe1> peter: lots of bug reports, I'm having a ton of problems with -16
[00:01] <dmsuperman> spork969, mkdir
[00:01] <amenado> Siph0n-> what  you pasted gave you a clue as to which is wireless did it not?
[00:01] <spork969> dmsuperman, thanks i knew that lol
[00:02] <ShdwShinobi> dmsuperman, full disk backup as in the whole filesystem or just the hardy partition?
[00:02] <CorbinFox> dmsuperman: i was told i could....and either way the issue persists if i use the Restricted drivers or the nonrestricted ones that come with ubuntu out of the box
[00:02] <Howitzer_> wtf
[00:02] <afewnips-o-ubunt> ShdwShinobi, vooodoo-raindance-technique, i think the problem is elsewhere
[00:02] <dmsuperman> CorbinFox, try an older driver, or if there's a newer one update it. I had the same problem, and it was fixed with an update
[00:03] <dmsuperman> ShdwShinobi, the whole filesystem, minutes any extra drives mounted
[00:03] <testecletes> hihi
[00:03] <dmsuperman> ShdwShinobi, so yeah, just the gutsy partition :P
[00:03] <Siph0n> amenado, I know the wireless driver it is using is rtl8187, i know the interface it is using is wlan0, but I dont know why in lshw -C network it doesnt list the driver, and why in lspci it doesnt list the chipset :)
[00:03] <ShdwShinobi> lol, ok :)
[00:03] <CorbinFox> dmsuperman: would you be able to help this nooby fox with how to upgrade/downgrade the drivers should there be somoe available?
[00:04] <user1> is there a very reliable download manager with excellent resume support?
[00:04] <dmsuperman> CorbinFox, i'm not 100% sure, just go on the website and see if you can find an older driver and install that
[00:04] <Zelta> user1: For a browser?
[00:04] <afewnips-o-ubunt> user1 downthemall
[00:04] <Zelta> Try DownThemall
[00:04] <Zelta> yes
[00:04] <user1> Zelta ya..
[00:05] <user1> afewnips-o-ubunt Zelta ok.. thx. its better than kget?
[00:05] <dmsuperman> user1, yeah, downthemall is great
[00:05] <amenado> Siph0n-> try lspci -vvv
[00:05] <Zelta> mhmm
[00:05] <user1> dmsuperman k
[00:05] <afewnips-o-ubunt> user1 i dont use/like kde
[00:05] <user1> k
[00:05] <Steelemax> how do you remove directories?
[00:05] <dmsuperman> rm
[00:05] <afewnips-o-ubunt> -rf
[00:05] <joe1> sudo rm -r /directory
[00:05] <Steelemax> thanks
[00:06] <afewnips-o-ubunt> the / directory *G*
[00:06] <Steelemax> was that a bot?  it was fast
[00:07] <spork969> what is the bash command to copy and paste a file?
[00:07] <Starnestommy> spork969: cp?
[00:07] <joe1> a bash command?
[00:07] <spork969> starnestommy, yeah thanks
[00:08] <Siph0n> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63238/ is the output of lspci -vvv , but i still do not see anything that would help me
[00:09] <user1> how to run adept from command line?
[00:09] <habernet> hey guys, i was running amarok and it randomly shut down, now even after restarting my computer i cannot open amarok, what do i do?
[00:10] <BarryToeman> habernet: as a start I would open a terminal and try to start amarok from there.  it should tell you any errors.
[00:10] <BarryToeman> maybe
[00:10] <testecletes> is the amarok process running?
[00:10] <afewnips-o-ubunt> spork969 cat
[00:11] <VeN0mizer> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[00:11] <testecletes> ask googal
[00:11] <LjL> !aptitude | VeN0mizer
[00:11] <ubotu> VeN0mizer: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[00:11] <Zelta> one has one more character than the other
[00:12] <VeN0mizer> !apt-get | VeN0mizer
[00:12] <ShdwShinobi> !apt-get
[00:12] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[00:12] <LjL> VeN0mizer: aptitude also has more advanced searching capabilities... and a text-mode GUI, if you ever want one
[00:12] <amenado> Siph0n-> dont know, this is an embedded wifi card? or a usb pluggable card?
[00:12] <kernfreak> I sit in these rooms all the time, and the problems people are having with linux are crazy. Even the smallest stuff like "installing a program", or "hardware not working", some serious renovation needs to be done with linux
[00:12] <Siph0n> amenado, embedded wifi card
[00:12] <spork969> im having some trouble installing java
[00:12] <user1> user1@computer1:~$ kdesu adept
[00:12] <user1> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 15 06:20:38 2008
[00:13] <Zelta> kernfreak: if hardware vendors don't release hardware drivers for linux, not much can be done about it
[00:13] <testecletes> kernfreak, what would you suggest?
[00:13] <Siph0n> amenado, but like i said before, its not really a problem, because it works out of the box.... and I have no issues with it, cept I wanted to learn more
[00:13] <testecletes> Zelta, agreed
[00:13] <ronmexico> could anyone helpe me with a wine and steam problem? source games turn black after their initial loading screen, i have an ati vid card if that helps
[00:13] <spork969> im doing what it says here http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#rpm but i cant get it to work
[00:13] <amenado> Siph0n-> perhaps the vendor website has more info, look around your bios too
[00:14] <BarryToeman> why are the floodbots so active now?
[00:14] <LjL> because one of them is very lagged
[00:14] <kernfreak> hardware DOES work, configuring it is way to difficult in alot of cases, alot of the hardware issues I believe are related to the fact that linux is monolithic,
[00:14] <Zelta> spork969: Ubuntu does not use the RPM Package Management system
[00:14] <amenado> Siph0n-> and what shows if you do   iwconfig wlan0 ;  iwlist wlan0 scan  ?
[00:14] <spork969> Zelta, that explains it...
[00:15] <Zelta> and linux is not monolithic...
[00:15] <kernfreak> the kernel is a monolithic kernel
[00:15] <Zelta> most hardware issues are related to vendors not releasing drivers ;)
[00:15] <Zelta> or at least not releasing open source drivers
[00:16] <kernfreak> it now has a userspace driver api, but some of the driver stills needs to be in the kernel, preventing vendors from releasing opensource drivers
[00:16] <Zelta> the only reason most hardware "just works" in windows is because Microsoft has made a lot of deals with vendors concerning drivers
[00:16] <Siph0n> amenado, iwconfig wlan0 shows my essid, AP, and some other stuff... nothing special.... iwlist wlan0 scan shows "No scan results"
[00:16] <kernfreak> well "propriatary drivers" rather
[00:17] <TrickFinlay2> does anyone know a good subnet calculator?
[00:18] <daire> when i installed 7.10 and enabled my nvidia restricted device driver my sound and graphics (at full resolution) just worked. should i install drivers for all my other hardware?
[00:18] <Varka> TrickFinlay2, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gip-ip-calculator-for-gnome-desktop-environment.html
[00:19] <spork969> ok, so i did everything here http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting but i get the message "failed to extract files"
[00:19] <Varka> TrickFinlay2, or ksubnet if youre using kde
[00:19] <kernfreak> this is offtopic though, and who am I too judge, and linux isnt ever going to be a microkernel, we will just make it work, and it does that well.
[00:19] <mrkeishii> how do you make a directory
[00:19] <TrickFinlay2> thanks Varka,im on gnome
[00:20] <kernfreak> mkdir driname
[00:20] <mrkeishii> how do you make a directory?
[00:20] <opusdeux> mkdir <dirname>
[00:20] <mrkeishii> oh okay
[00:20] <amenado> Siph0n-> last one ...   lshal
[00:21] <nickrud> spork969 why not just run sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin (plugin for 32bit)
[00:21] <spork969> nickrud, nvm i forgot sudo
[00:21] <hedning> my first 5 hours with ubuntu... :D like it so far
[00:21] <Siph0n> amenado, that gives a LOT of info... can i limit it somehow?
[00:21] <Aval0n> anyone in here know much about plasma tv's?
[00:22] <amenado> Siph0n-> yeah grep for whatever info you seek
[00:22] <Zelta> !ot | Aval0n
[00:22] <ubotu> Aval0n: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:22] <Aval0n> I am having some weird banding issues
[00:22] <Aval0n> Zelta this concerns my HTPC running ubuntu out
[00:22] <Aval0n> to my plasma
[00:22] <Zelta> ah
[00:22] <Zelta> nvm then :)
[00:22] <Aval0n> ;)
[00:22] <VeN0mizer> you didn't use the DVI connection did you? lol
[00:22] <susanoo> will the ubuntu 8.04 be released with gnash ?
[00:23] <amenado> plasma tv  32 inches ruffly 750-1200 dollars
[00:23] <Zelta> !hardy | susanoo
[00:23] <ubotu> susanoo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:23] <Aval0n> yes
[00:23] <Aval0n> I did
[00:23] <Aval0n> I used hdmi actually
[00:23] <VeN0mizer> oh ok
[00:23] <VeN0mizer> I always heard the DVI on TV's and computers used different protocols
[00:23] <VeN0mizer> 8shrug*
[00:24] <Siph0n> amenado, ok it appears to be a usb device, but its not plugged into any usb port
[00:24] <Aval0n> it does
[00:24] <Aval0n> but this TV, has a specific HDMI port for PC
[00:24] <Aval0n> grabs 1360x768 via edid instantly
[00:24] <Aval0n> 1:1 pixel mapping
[00:24] <u^A> is it possible that clean install failed because of some unknown files left in the hdd that triggered the process?
[00:24] <amenado> Siph0n-> i know its a long output, feed it to a file, then use vim to edit the file
[00:25] <spork969> im trying to run a program through wine but i get an error message saying "cannot find java 1.4" i just installed java 6. do i need to downgrade?
[00:25] <amenado> u^A what happened after you installed? what errors?
[00:25] <u^A> i can't reinstall ubuntu because of grub failure
[00:26] <amenado> !who  | u^A
[00:26] <ubotu> u^A: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:26] <u^A> failed on grub because of unknown /target/
[00:26] <Scunizi> u^A, do you have more than one drive?
[00:26] <u^A> ya
[00:26] <Scunizi> u^A, and is one ide and the other sata?
[00:26] <u^A> one primary drive with xp
[00:26] <spork969> im trying to run a program through wine but i get an error message saying "cannot find java 1.4" i just installed java 6. do i need to downgrade?
[00:27] <matrix> hi
[00:27] <cheesypieces> hi guys, do you know how i could make awm always be on top of a gnome panel?
[00:27] <u^A> ya Scunizi
[00:27] <Scunizi> u^A, so yes to a mix of drive types?
[00:27] <amenado> spork969-> not sure if you can have wine share the java and then your app..
[00:27] <Tigerplug_> hey whats up?
[00:27] <spork969> amenado, i installed java through sudo apt-get install
[00:28] <amenado> spork969-> besides why do you need wine if the program is java based?
[00:28] <Scunizi> u^A, and did you install ubuntu on the second drive? or the primary one with windows.?
[00:28] <spork969> amenado, .exe file
[00:28] <testecletes> cheesypieces, its in the preferences
[00:28] <u^A> Scunizi: i had never have such complications of installing or reinstalling
[00:28] <amenado> spork969-> then that is not java, java are usually  jar files or class
[00:28] <u^A> Scunizi: on the 2nd drive with ide
[00:28] <matrix> plz, i need you help, got a problem with my webcam my webcam only work when i connect it after starting my computer, if I connect it before and then I start my computer it doesn't work ? why ? what can I do ? (i already put gspca in etc/modules)
[00:28] <testecletes> cheesypieces, you right click the awn bar, and go into preferences, and it's under the general tab, BAR BEHAVIOR
[00:28] <u^A> Scunizi: i have both ide sorry
[00:28] <spork969> amenado, i know, but it says it was looking for java, so i installed it
[00:29] <testecletes> cheesypieces, check maximized windows don't cover bar
[00:29] <amenado> spork969-> what program is it?
[00:29] <cheesypieces> testecletes: i've done that, but my panel still covers it
[00:29] <testecletes> restart x
[00:29] <Scunizi> u^A, ok.. and after install on reboot it gave you the error?
[00:29] <testecletes> ctrl alt bckspc
[00:29] <spork969> amenado, an old program called jhymn, it converts media files without loss of quality
[00:30] <wigren> i have a 64 bit processor. should i be using the x86_64 version of ubuntu?
[00:30] <u^A> Scunizi: there seem some files attached to the drive, can't install grub during the installation
[00:30] <NickDngr> i installed the 32-bit b/c i couldn't find a 64 bit version of hardy
[00:30] <NickDngr> it works fine
[00:30] <NickDngr> but when the or comes out i'm going to do a clean reinstall
[00:30] <osfameron> are there tutorials on how to set up sound with audacity?  OSS doesn't work, ALSA doesn't work.  ESD+ALSA works, but with garbled recording intermittently
[00:30] <amenado> spork969-> maybe you can expand or uncompress the .exe then look for the jar files there?
[00:31] <u^A> Scunizi: the file permissions are messing up, i can su root even I didn't
[00:31] <spork969> amenado, how?
[00:31] <amenado> spork969-> uncab ?
[00:31] <wigren> nickdngr: im using the 32 version. im just wondering if there is a performance or any other compelling reason to switch
[00:31] <cheesypieces> testecletes: i've just restarted x, same problem though
[00:31] <spork969> amenado, ill try
[00:32] <NickDngr> wigren: i, personally, just feel more comfortable using an os tailored for the processor
[00:32] <amenado> spork969-> rather cabextract ?
[00:32] <Scunizi> u^A, brb on phone
[00:32] <u^A> ok thanks
[00:32] <philipsmith> I installed 7z and can't find it under "applications." Where is it?
[00:32] <Kakurady> Hardy's ntfs-3g just made one of my NTFS folder unaccessible to Windows (can't even delete it). I was writing to it using an Windows app running on Wine. Not that there's any important data in it, but I want to know how to fix the folder / debug the fs.
[00:32] <spork969> amenado, are those apps or commands?
[00:33] <amenado> spork969-> i dont remember exact commands, i have to download and install a package for those
[00:33] <savageone> hey folks
[00:33] <spork969> amenado, sudo apt-get install cabextract?
[00:34] <Jberg88> hey
[00:34] <amenado> spork969-> yeah
[00:34] <savageone> I want to sell machines with ubuntu but there's the issue of licensing for dvd playback.  Dell is using corel's lindvd.  Anyone else aware of any other pay-for product so I can do this right?  I don't wnat to get into any legal trouble.  We're in the US.  How are other manufacturers handling this?
[00:35] <Scunizi> u^A, was this secondary drive you put Ubuntu on empty at the time? and is Vista on the primary?
[00:35] <spork969> amenado, "no valid cabinets found"
[00:35] <cheesypieces> guys, is there a way to not have the white handles on the edge of panels when they're not expanded?
[00:35] <kittykitty> savageone if you're selling linux boxes, i'm sure the lusers can figure out dvd playback for themselves
[00:35] <_Rambaldi_> you know how ie7 saves all files streamed in temporary internet folder, what browser saves like that. firefox deletes its files immediately even with cache at 1Gb
[00:35] <CorbinFox> is there a command to kill Xorg temporarily?  It seems i need to turn xorg off to install my vid card drivers (makes sense)
[00:35] <amenado> spork969-> oh well, you have to go back to where you get that jhymn app and look around at their web site for support
[00:36] <savageone> kitty: Not all of my users.  I'm really trying to push this as an easy to use alternative to windows and osx. I've sold several but like I said I want everything to be legal
[00:36] <Stroganoff> i'd not be so sure, kittykitty :D
[00:36] <spork969> amenado, ugh, their website is crap...
[00:36] <savageone> I can appreciate that some people's approach is to let the custome figure it out but we're dealing with some rather difficult rather wealthy customers
[00:36] <LiraNuna> anyone here knows how to have multiseat working?
[00:36] <elmer> My Wacom isn't working correctly
[00:37] <_Rambaldi_> you want to stop gdm? CorbinFox
[00:37] <kittykitty> i rather dislike commercial - for profit plugins/libs on an open system, it just makes me feel dirty
[00:37] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, which vid drivers?
[00:37] <Scunizi> CorbinFox, ctrl+alt+F2 then log in.. then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.. install drivers.. reboot or you can try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[00:37] <CorbinFox> elmer: did you just plug it in? or have you tried configuring it
[00:37] <u^A> Scunizi: the first drive is xp and the second drive is for ubuntu
[00:37] <elmer> CorbinFox, I have a full write up here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4717812
[00:38] <cheesypieces> guys, is there a way to not have the white handles on the edge of panels when they're not expanded?
[00:38] <CorbinFox> elmer: if you just plugged it in, then you need to do some simple configuration.  go Synaptic, then search Wacom, and enable all the packages that show up there.  then go into your Xorg.conf file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) with root priviliges and uncomment the wacom tablet options at the bottom
[00:38] <savageone> does the pay-for ubuntu version come with legal dvd playback?
[00:38] <spork969> amenado, i give up, this is too much stress
[00:38] <amenado> savageone  dont know if movieX or emovieX have those restrictions, i dont know much about it.
[00:38] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, which vid drivers?
[00:38] <spork969> amenado, thanks for the help
[00:38] <harveyd> I installed the hardy heron beta from cd today, and it will only let me login through "failsafe gnome"
[00:39] <sudobash> hey Im having trouble with spdif in 7.10... it was working up till yesterday after updates... livecd works with spdif coax but my 7.10 install does not
[00:39] <amenado> harveyd please visit #ubuntu+1
[00:39] <harveyd> when I use a normal session, it boots me back to the login screen in the middle of loading
[00:39] <CorbinFox> hyperstrea: i am trying to upgrade my nvidia GeForce 6150 GO to the latest version from nvidia.
[00:39] <CorbinFox> do you know if the drivers from the Restricted drivers manager are the most updated?
[00:39] <elmer> CorbinFox, I did that, just read the topic. It has a write-up thing.
[00:39] <hyperstream> use the restricted drivers
[00:39] <Dgro> Hi
[00:39] <harveyd> ok, thanks
[00:39] <hyperstream> i belive so
[00:40] <Pelo> savageone, dvd playback is not included default in ubuntu because of copyrigth restrictions in some country,  but it is easily installed
[00:40] <sudobash> i have already done update upgrade and reisntalled everything to do with alsa and sound base
[00:40] <Scunizi> u^A, ok.. there's a couple of suggestions.. delete all partitions on the second drive and reinstall.. or.. disconnect the primary drive and make the secondary the primary.. leaving the original disconnected install ubuntu as if it's a 1 drive sys. then plug in the orig. primary again in the primary position, use the live cd to reinstall grub (on both drives). if it errors then set the bios to boot from the secondary drive and all should b
[00:40] <Scunizi> e good.
[00:40] <matrix> plz, i need you help, got a problem with my webcam my webcam only work when i connect it after starting my computer, if I connect it before and then I start my computer it doesn't work ? why ? what can I do ? (i already put gspca in etc/modules)
[00:40] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: thing is, I am.  and my desktop freezes every little bit for a half sec or so (and an nvidia warning shows up in the Xorg log)
[00:40] <hyperstream> pastebin the warnings
[00:40] <Dgro> I haven't figured out plugins and downloads.  Help!
[00:40] <CorbinFox> elmer: ok, just do what i said and you should be set
[00:40] <Scunizi> u^A, you could also just try to reinstall grub using the live cd.
[00:41] <u^A> Scunizi: sure
[00:41] <BigDaddy> OK guys, this is driving me batty. Somehow, I cannot change the color of my GNOME scheme. No matter what metacity theme I choose, it will always be blue. Ever hear of this?
[00:41] <Scunizi> u^A, which one?
[00:41] <u^A> Scunizi: i used alternate cd
[00:41] <todd_> .
[00:41] <Scunizi> u^A, ah.. is it gutsy or hardy?
[00:41] <u^A> Scunizi: it's hardy
[00:41] <CorbinFox> elmer: go synaptic, search wacom, install all the packages that show up from the search, then go into Xorg and remove the # from the options under the line that says "# uncomment if you have a wacom tablet"
[00:41] <elmer> CorbinFox, I am doing that now
[00:41] <elmer> thanks
[00:41] <CorbinFox> elmer: then restart Xorg and you should be set
[00:42] <sudobash> im just going to install 8.04...
[00:42] <sudobash> what version comes after 8.04?
[00:42] <CorbinFox> elmer: im using the graphire4 like you, and i suffered the same issues
[00:42] <elmer> CorbinFox, when I searched Wacom it gave There is no matching application available
[00:42] <sudobash> have they even started on it yet?
[00:42] <CorbinFox> sudobash: 8.10
[00:42] <Scunizi> u^A, this might be an issue that is different .. a bug maybe.. you should ask about this in the Hardy channel at #ubuntu+1 before doing what I suggested.. they may have a simple fix..
[00:42] <CorbinFox> elmer: do you have multiverse or whatever enabled?
[00:42] <harveyd> this is one can probably answered here, anyone know how to get the panels (taskbar, menus) etc back when ubuntu doesnt load them on boot
[00:42] <sudobash> is it in beta testing so we can download it?
[00:42] <CorbinFox> maybe not multiverse
[00:43] <elmer> CorbinFox, I don't fully understand you.
[00:43] <CorbinFox> sudobash: 8.04 is in beta, 8.10 isn't started yet
[00:43] <u^A> ok Scunizi thanks
[00:43] <sudobash> harevy sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[00:43] <Scunizi> u^A, no problem
[00:43] <Pelo> harveyd, alt F2 ,  gnome-panel
[00:43] <CorbinFox> elmer: go System > administration > software sources
[00:43] <BigDaddy> I know this sounds like a stupid problem, but it is really bugging me. I this just started and it is really annoying. I am running Gutsy.
[00:43] <sudobash> or what pel0 says
[00:44] <CorbinFox> elmer: then check Universe if it isn't already
[00:44] <Pelo> BigDaddy, what's the issue ?
[00:44] <BigDaddy> . Somehow, I cannot change the color of my GNOME scheme. No matter what metacity theme I choose, it will always be blue. Ever hear of this?
[00:44] <elmer> CorbinFox, done.
[00:44] <elmer> CorbinFox, it was already enabled
[00:45] <Pelo> BigDaddy,  do you have the desktop effects enabled ?
[00:45] <cpk1> how do you find out which interrupts devices are using?
[00:45] <BigDaddy> Pelo: no, compiz has not been used on here since Sept when I installed Ubuntu
[00:45] <Pelo> cpk1, hardware info in the prefs menu
[00:45] <thedonvaughn> BigDaddy: u get colors from control changes usually.  there should be a colors tab in customize theme under gnome's apperance properties
[00:46] <Ntemis> hello
[00:46] <zamarax> anyone else having problems as of recent with apt-get and medibuntu.org?
[00:46] <zamarax> it just seems to hang and stall on me
[00:46] <Pelo> BigDaddy, not compiz , see if you have emerald installed,  thats's usualy the issue,
[00:46] <CorbinFox> elmer: hmm, and wacom-tools doesn't show up in synaptic?
[00:46] <BigDaddy> thedonvaughn: yes I know, no matter what colors I choose, it remains blue
[00:46] <poopix> I'm using opensuse 10.3 right now and I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 in a virtualbox, but after I choose to install it and the loading screen goes away, I just get a black screen. It's been like this for 10 minutes. Anyone know whats wrong?
[00:46] <Ntemis> can anyone tell me how i can make my desktop a cube ?
[00:46] <BigDaddy> Pelo: lemme check... I know I never installed that though
[00:46] <elmer> CorbinFox, I already sudo apt-get'd wacom-tools
[00:47] <BigDaddy> Pelo: no emerald. just checked
[00:47] <_Rambaldi_> have you installed compiz Ntemis
[00:47] <Pelo> BigDaddy, I had  a similar issue to yours when using compiz / emerald,  that's why I asked,
[00:47] <thedonvaughn> Ntemis: if you have compiz installed just install compizconfig-settings-manager and u can customize your compiz settings
[00:47] <CorbinFox> elmer: and it is installed, yes? and try for xserver-xorg-input-wacom too
[00:47] <cpk1> Pelo:  is there a more generic way? I'm on kde
[00:47] <CorbinFox> elmer: "xserver-xorg-input-wacom" i mean
[00:47] <Pelo> BigDaddy, try this, goto www.gnome-looks.org,  dl a gtk2 theme, any theme drag drop it in the theme manager , see if it works
[00:47] <BigDaddy> Pelo: the only thing I have done is installed kde. but I also uninstalled gtk-qt so that my gnome settings would not be touched
[00:47] <hyperstream> Ntemis, : go to system pref > appearance
[00:48] <CorbinFox> elmer: then uncomment the wacom portion in Xorg and restart.  then you should be okay
[00:48] <zamarax> no, no one else?
[00:48] <BigDaddy> pelo:I'm on it. just a sec.
[00:48] <hyperstream> Visual effects and choose the bottum on
[00:48] <Ntemis> i have compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:48] <Pelo> cpk1, there is probably a similar app in  kde but I don't know it
[00:48] <hyperstream> then get compizconfig-settings-manaer
[00:48] <CorbinFox> is there a terminal command that just ends Xorg without me needing log out or anything to do it?
[00:48] <thedonvaughn> Ntemis: System -> Preference -> Compizconfig settings
[00:48] <hyperstream> and go to System Pref Advanced Desktop settings
[00:48] <hyperstream> then tick roation cuve in there
[00:49] <thedonvaughn> Ntemis: go to Desktop section and pick "Desktop Cube" and "Rotate Cube".  might need to also go to "General Options" and make sure your desktop is one row of 4 virtual desktops.  1x4
[00:49] <Pelo> BigDaddy, if you removed stuff you might have removed something needed, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  that will restore any missing packages from the default install
[00:50] <thedonvaughn> CorbinFox: ctrl+alt+backspace :)
 i think that is the problem ;)
[00:50] <Ntemis> thanks for the info
[00:50] <bazhang> poopix: the host os is Suse? using vbox? probably best bet is to check #suse
[00:50] <Ntemis> all the others are checked!
[00:50] <elmer> CorbinFox, done, restarting X
[00:50] <thedonvaughn> Ntemis: yah make sure you have one 4 for horizontal size and that's it for Desktop Size
[00:50] <CorbinFox> thedonvaughn: but that just restards xorg, i want it turned off so i can upgrade the vid card
[00:50] <poopix> ah ok, thanks bazhang
[00:50] <v3trae> Hello, i just converted from Gentoo to Ubuntu and i'm curious if there is a "startup" folder in Gnome, something i can throw commands in if i want them to start when gnome does.
[00:51] <BigDaddy> Pelo: I just installed a new on, it turned blue
[00:51] <thedonvaughn> CorbinFox: ctrl+alt+F1, log into a virtual console and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:51] <heckarim> help
[00:51] <Pelo> v3trae,  ~/.config/autostart
[00:51] <v3trae> Pelo: thank you +)
[00:51] <thedonvaughn> CorbinFox: make sure you log out too before you stop gdm
[00:51] <BigDaddy> Pelo: I will try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[00:51] <Pelo> v3trae, generaly you put app lauchers in tere
[00:51] <bazhang> heckarim: we need an actual question
[00:52] <v3trae> Pelo: the folder isn't there, i assume i can just make it and it'll work?
[00:52] <thedonvaughn> v3trae: you can create a script and run it in Preferences -> Sessiosns
[00:52] <v3trae> thedonvaughn: i'll look into that too, thank you
[00:52] <Pelo> v3trae, it's a hidden folder,   crtl H to view
[00:52] <_Rambaldi_> v3trae, system > sessins, you add commands there
[00:53] <_Rambaldi_> systems > preferences > sessions actually v3trae
[00:53] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, what error message warning?
[00:53] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: give me a sec and i'll grab it
[00:53] <v3trae> Also i was going to ask, does anyone use Tilda at all? Got it working on Gentoo no problem but having trouble with it here. It'll run and everything but as i type, characters 2-3 behind the cursor will go transparent, so i can only see the last 2-3 characters typed
[00:53] <Ntemis> havent done it yet
[00:54] <Ntemis> please anyone can help me?
[00:54] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, thanks
[00:54] <v3trae> _Rambaldi_: aye i found it thank you. Much cleaner then throwing it in a folder =)
[00:54] <ClickClickBoom> hi, does anyone know how to get VMware to do NAT from ubuntu guest to windows host?
[00:54] <Ntemis> i have 4 desk
[00:54] <elmer> CorbinFox, I think I deleted something bad... I am now at 800x600. Oh dear. Could you give me the link I gave you so I can get my old xorg.conf from there?
[00:54] <Pelo> Ntemis, whats, the issue ?
[00:54] <Ntemis> but i cannot cube
[00:54] <_Rambaldi_> np v3trae
[00:54] <ryanzec> is there a way to allow me to set a folder so that all files and files is subfolder will allow for read and write by all by default?
[00:54] <Pelo> Ntemis, ask in #compiz
[00:54] <CorbinFox> elmer: sure
[00:54] <elmer> CorbinFox, thanks
[00:54] <CorbinFox> elmer:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4717812
[00:54] <elmer> thanks
[00:54] <Ntemis> ctrl+alt+left dor give me the cube
[00:54] <peter77> I've tried the solution here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000N100_0768 to fix my sound but now it doesn't work at all :-(
[00:55] <thedonvaughn> Ntemis: does it do anything?
[00:55] <_Rambaldi_> set the permission for all ryanzec
[00:55] <ClickClickBoom> i have entered the IP and SN that VMware says, but it won't conntect to internet
[00:56] <neil> I am looking to put a run a python script in the background, how can i do this?
[00:56] <elmer> restarting X again...
[00:56] <zamarax> hey guys, is there is a quick minimize to dekstop for compiz similiar to windows superkey+D ?
[00:56] <thedonvaughn> neil: script.py & would be simplest
[00:56] <crdlb> zamarax: ctrl+alt+D
[00:56] <rainrunner87> Anyone familiar with Wily?  I'm trying to import the wily module in Python and not having much luck.  It appears to not have been included in the package from the repos, from what I can tell...  Anyone have a suggestion for where to look?
[00:56] <Pelo> neil,  you mean daemonise it ? not sure but I think that's the keyword you need to be searching with
[00:56] <zamarax> thanks!
[00:56] <Pelo> later folks
[00:57] <neil> thedonvaughn: & doesnt seem to do anything
[00:57] <BigDaddy> Pelo: do you know where the color schemes for gnome are kept?
[00:57] <thedonvaughn> neil: it forks a process to the background
[00:57] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: wouldnt you know it that the log isn't showing it right now.  it hasn't happened since i started xorg last i guess
[00:57] <ryanzec> _rambaldi: i do and then i update form svn and the permission change to onyl for me but that is not want i want
[00:58] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: give me a minute and i think i can coax the log tho, since it seems to happen most often when i am surfing the web (at least i notice it more i guess)
[00:58] <_Rambaldi_> what is svn ryanzec
[00:58] <elmer> Oh dear. I messed it up. It won't display 1440x900! Gah!
[00:58] <ryanzec> subversion, source control management
[00:58] <ubuntu> whats the link for kubuntu on linux.com how to install there are 3 moives
[00:58] <ubuntu> movies*
[00:59] <CorbinFox> elmer: :'(   actually somehwere in the xorg log there is a command to reset it
[00:59] <neil> Figured it out nohup python s.py & works
[00:59] <neil> :D
[00:59] <CorbinFox> elmer: let me find it if i can for you
[00:59] <elmer> CorbinFox, current xorg.conf: http://slexy.org/view/s20ZmQqhrv
[00:59] <CorbinFox> elmer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg     that should do it...hopefully
[00:59] <elmer> OK
[00:59] <elmer> I will try it
[00:59] <ubuntu> anybody:P
[01:00] <zamarax> also, in CompizConfig Manager, what's the options that allow the windows to be presented like they are in ring switch when you move towards one corner of the screen?
[01:00] <ubuntu> ok i got it
[01:00] <bazhang> ubuntu not sure what you mean
[01:00] <_Rambaldi_> well i am not quiet sure how to assist you, but if you want to share a file for all, put it in /home and set permission for 766
[01:00] <elmer> CorbinFox, OK, I ran that. Do I just restart X again?
[01:00] <CorbinFox> elmer: yeah
[01:00] <elmer> OK
[01:00] <elmer> trying...
[01:00] <_Rambaldi_> well i am not quiet sure how to assist you, but if you want to share a file for all, put it in /home and set permission for 766 ryanzec
[01:01] <Scunizi> ubuntulog, do you have ubuntu installed already? if so just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and change sessions at the log-in screen to kde.
[01:01] <cheesypieces> hi guys, anyone have any idea why i can't see awn-extras in synaptic?
[01:01] <ryanzec> _rambalbi: nvm
[01:01] <Scunizi> ubuntulog, sorry ment for someone else
[01:01] <bazhang> cheesypieces: you need to add extra repo
[01:01] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: ok, well, the error wont show up, but basically it was "ww Nvidia (0) - " followed by strings of numbers and letters
[01:02] <peter77>  I've managed to mess up alsa by trying a fix, is it possible to simply reinstall the previous version?
[01:02] <cheesypieces> bazhang: i've done that, i can now see more than i could, bu awn-extras isn't there
[01:02] <elmer> CorbinFox, OK, I reset X, but it is still screwy. Current xorg.conf: http://slexy.org/view/s2i9i58PwC
[01:03] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  similar to: (WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0x0000e74c, 0x0000e75c, 0)
[01:03] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: EXACTLY that
[01:03] <bazhang> cheesypieces: hmm; and awn extras is supposed to be in those repos? dont use awn myself so cant really tell you
[01:04] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, few others online have had same issue
[01:04] <Dr_willis> awn is in the hardy repos.
[01:04] <hyperstream> just looking into it now
[01:04] <daire> are x86_64 packages for me on 7.10 32bit
[01:04] <daire> ?
[01:04] <CorbinFox> elmer: then i am a confused fox...um, outside of maybe a full restart i dont know...sorry i may have just destroyed your comp :(
[01:04] <cheesypieces> bazhang: nps, i've downloaded the .tar for them now
[01:04] <kittykitty> i have a stupid question, i wrote a script to check my current ip againsted a stored ip, and if it changed it does stuff, where do i shove it so it gets ran by cron every 5 min?
[01:04] <daire> there is only x86_64 and i386
[01:04] <cheesypieces> any idea how i install from the .tar.gz tho?
[01:04] <elmer> CorbinFox, I will try a full restart. See you on the other side, mates!
[01:04] <Dr_willis> daire,  those are not the right packages for  386
[01:04] <theneb> Hi, How can I use a socks proxy with apt-get within bash?
[01:05] <bazhang> daire: the x86_64 are for 64bit; the others are for 32bit
[01:05] <Dr_willis> theneb,  i recall the apt manual/factoid mentioning an enviromental variable. or a config file for proxys
[01:05] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[01:05] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:05] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-February/113054.html
[01:05] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: the message happens every time it freezes so i certain they are related.  do you think updating drivers to newest may help? i dont know if ubuntu updates the vid card drivers too, especially the restricted drivers
[01:05] <hyperstream> have a look at that
[01:06] <daire> dr_willis bazhang: ty ty
[01:06] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  it was being suggested to Downgrade, but this link i gave you suggests something about a AGP Lock
[01:06] <sarthor> hi, i have 4 GB of USB pen Drive, on 2 GB i have data, Can i use my usb drive like a bootable CD, for installation ubuntu gutsy server??
[01:07] <Amaranth> Pelin||Pelin: Can I help you?
[01:07] <sarthor> hi, i have 4 GB of USB pen Drive, on 2 GB i have data, Can i use the remaining of my usb drive like a bootable CD, for installation ubuntu gutsy server??
[01:07] <Dr_willis> sarthor,  ive heard its possible to install that way. But uve never done so.
[01:07] <Dr_willis> !install | sarthor
[01:07] <ubotu> sarthor: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:07] <bazhang> sarthor: you need to use the whole stick iirc
[01:07] <CorbinFox> hyperstream; well, considering this is a laptop i dont know how relevant that bit of advice can be...without voiding my warranty either way.  my XP partition experiences no problems at all with the video card, which i would assume is a sign that the card is physically installed properly
[01:08] <cheesypieces> guys, how do i install from a .tar.gz?
[01:08] <Dr_willis> !source | cheesypieces
[01:08] <ubotu> cheesypieces: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[01:08] <theneb> Dr_willis: it just has http_proxys, Looking for socks
[01:08] <sarthor> bazhang, you mean to say that i have shift all of my data to some other, and this will occupy all of my usb drive??
[01:09] <Dr_willis> hmm thats not the right url for cheesypieces ... lets see..
[01:09] <elmer> CorbinFox, Aha! The restart got my screen normal... now to get my Wacom working...
[01:09] <Dr_willis> cheesypieces,  in short, uncompress tha archive, ./configure, make, sudo make install..  assuming you got all the needed dependencies installed.
[01:09] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, just searching nv forums atm
[01:09] <cheesypieces> Dr_willis: i'm sorry, i have no idea what you mean
[01:09] <CorbinFox> elmer: that is how i got my wacom working...installling the wacom-tools and stuff, then editing xorg.  since we apparently can fix the problem :D lets try it again, eh? :P
[01:10] <elmer> Yes
[01:10] <elmer> Trying again, CorbinFox
[01:10] <kittykitty> How do i go about getting a script to run every 5 min or so?
[01:10] <opusdeux> test
[01:11] <Scunizi> CorbinFox, did you get the scroll wheel and buttons working on the tablet?  I've got a graphire 4 and only the scroll wheel works at this point.
[01:11] <elmer> CorbinFox, it went back to 800x600 >.<
[01:11] <elmer> I will fix it again
[01:12] <CorbinFox> Scunizi: actually the scroll wheel doesn't work for me, and i dont think the buttons work (or at least nothing is mapped to them yet) on the tablet itself.  the buttons on the stylus work fine tho
[01:12] <Bidget> ok, I have a few games installed in wine, now I'm wondering here... is it possible to have different profiles or something so that lets say for instance I load up steam it will change a few registry keys, but if I want to play eve it wont change them?
[01:12] <Dr_willis> cheesypieces,  You have quite a bit of learning to do then.   theres some beginnerg guides to 'installing from source'  on the net. You might want to track down a few. and knowing some bash basics will help also.
[01:12] <ek> Anyone know what files I need to edit in order to keep standard X (kdm/KDE) on TTY7 and have a different remote X session on TTY8 or TTY9?
[01:12] <ek> I'm not seeing an /etc/inittab file.
[01:12] <tkots199_> asdfghjkl;'
[01:12] <Dr_willis> ek,  ububntu dosent use inittab like other disrtos.
[01:12] <cheesypieces> Dr_willis: i'll look into it, thank you
[01:12] <Stroganoff> ek: /etc/gdm/xserver (something like that)
[01:13] <Ntemis> ctrl+alt + left mouse button worked
[01:13] <Stroganoff> (i dont use gdm)
[01:13] <Ntemis> for the cube
[01:13] <Dr_willis> Yea thats some gdm/kdm configs that can do that like Stroganoff  mentions.
[01:13] <Ntemis> but on upper side of cube and bottom i see a logo and not my desktop
[01:13] <ek> Dr_willis: Okay. I read about the /etc/event.d stuff a bit but it's much different and I'm not sure how to create the second X session without taking over on tty7.
[01:13] <ek> Stroganoff: Okay. I'll take a look.
[01:13] <boxybrown> im trying to enable https and when trying to generate a certificate I am getting -bash: apache2-ssl-certificate: command not found
[01:14] <Scunizi> CorbinFox, http://paste.stgraber.org/2456 for my xorg and comparrison to yours.
[01:14] <bazhang> Ntemis: look into cubecaps or somesuch in ccsm (perhaps skycaps forgot the exact name)
[01:14] <Dr_willis> ek,  you could spawn a 2nd X session from rc.local :) is one way.. (not a good way. but one way)
[01:14] <ek> Dr_willis: Lol. Yeah. I suppose so.
[01:14] <CorbinFox> scunizi: did you install wacom-tools and others?
[01:15] <ek> The problem is, I need to be able to bounce back and forth between them using CTRL+ALT+F7 and CTRL+ALT+F8 (or F9).
[01:15] <ek> That's the way all the other machines are set up. But, they're older thin clients.
[01:15] <Scunizi> CorbinFox, wacom-tools yes.. but tried to follow another how to and ended up with the scroll wheel working..
[01:16] <bluecake> hi
[01:16] <ek> Dr_willis: I'm able to get the remote X session started and everything... It just seems to override the default X session tty7. So, there isn't any switching ability.
[01:16] <ek> Just need to figure out how to get it onto another TTY I guess.
[01:16] <CorbinFox> scunizi: odd, i dont know if i can help with the other buttons
[01:16] <Scunizi> CorbinFox, maybe not.. but my xorg might help you with yours :)
[01:17] <CorbinFox> scunizi: i am examining it as we speak
[01:17] <Dr_willis> ek,  im not sure what exactly you are trying to do.
[01:17] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why one of my settings isnt working in wine?
[01:17] <Scunizi> drunk
[01:17] <ek> Dr_willis: Well, this machine is going to be a thick and a thin client at the same time.
[01:17] <ek> Dr_willis: So, I want Kubuntu to start as usually and begin with the GDM login.
[01:17] <elmer> OK, CorbinFox. I fixed it again, and this time I copied my xorg.conf to xorg.bak so it is easier to reload. Smart, ain't it?
[01:17] <Stroganoff> ek you have to add another Xserver to the GDM configuration
[01:17] <Falling-Inferno> How do i compile?
[01:17] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why one of my settings isnt working in wine?
[01:18] <CorbinFox> elmer: heh, yup
[01:18] <ek> But, I also want to be able to use CTRL+ALT+F9 to switch to another X session on a remote server.
[01:18] <elmer> CorbinFox, I am going to try this one last time: If it doesn't work, I will do something bad I guess :P.
[01:18] <Dr_willis> ek,  you mean a xdmcp session?
[01:18] <CorbinFox> elmer: make sure to hide the evidence before the cops show up is all :P
[01:18] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why one of my settings isnt working in wine?
[01:18] <ek> Dr_willis: Well, it's just a remote session by issuing an 'X -query wherever.com' kind of command.
[01:18] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why one of my settings isnt working in wine?
[01:19] <Falling-Inferno> How do i compile?
[01:19] <v3trae> Sorry, one other question, previously when i've used grub there has been a /boot/grub/grub.conf but i'm not finding that here, am i doing something wrong?
[01:19] <elmer> CorbinFox, Of course! I am a trained bad-thing-doer, after all.
[01:19] <ek> Dr_willis: That all works just fine. just on the wrong tty.
[01:19] <bazhang> Bidget: best bet is to try #winehq if you dont get an answer here speedily enough
[01:19] <Stroganoff> Falling-Inferno what do you want to compile?
[01:19] <Bidget> thanks bazhang
[01:19] <ek> Stroganoff: But, another server in the GDM configuration would mean they'd be able to only choose one session to begin, correct?
[01:19] <Dr_willis> ek,  X -query is xdmcp, i belive,, The gdm/kdm menu items have a entry to spawn a xdmcp remote session, theres no need to create a new one at boot time.
[01:20] <bazhang> Falling-Inferno: install build-essential
[01:20] <Dr_willis> ek,  not sure if thats enabled by default.. but ive done it that way befor.
[01:20] <Falling-Inferno> thanks
[01:20] <ek> Dr_willis: I will be able to run both at the same time?
[01:20] <Dr_willis> ek,  ive ran 3+ at the same time. :)
[01:20] <ek> Well, both local X session and remote?
[01:20] <ek> Ah. Okay.
[01:20] <v3trae> Does grub.conf have a different name/location in ubuntu?
[01:20] <Dr_willis> ek,  yes. You must enable xdmcp on the remote machines.
[01:20] <ek> Hrm.
[01:20] <Falling-Inferno> i am trying to compile some file that came in a .tar.gz file from adobe i need to get my flash working
[01:20] <ek> Not sure if that's do-able.
[01:20] <Dr_willis> ek,  this is a local lan?
[01:20] <ek> Dr_willis: No.
[01:20] <elmer> CorbinFox, should xorg.conf look like this (http://slexy.org/view/s2yOGQBkpl) or this (http://slexy.org/view/s2bHePyMUG)
[01:21] <Stroganoff> v3trae: /boot/grub/
[01:21] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, ek can't you run one x in one tty and another in a different.. or have I missed something in the conversation and I'm way off base?
[01:21] <brunner> I need to co-locate a box that has a private key on it (part of a key pair).  what's the best way to protect the key in case the server is physically penetrated?
[01:21] <Dr_willis> ek,  you dont want to be using xdmcp over the internet, i belive.. best to use vnc, or freenx most likely then.
[01:21] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  hes wantint a whole new desktop on alt-ctrl-F8
[01:21] <v3trae> Stroganoff: That's what i thought, but i don't see a grub.conf in there. i'm assuming it's called something else but i dont really know where to look
[01:22] <Stroganoff> v3trae i assume its menu.lst
[01:22] <ek> Dr_willis: Well, it's not a typical LAN I guess. It's an IP block that we own. Requests to IPs that are assigned inside stay inside though.
[01:22] <ek> It works like a LAN. But, there are no standard internal IPs.
[01:22] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, that's what I was thinking.. someone mentioned back in Dapper days it was possible but it had to be different desktops like gnome and kde (if they were using the same /home)
[01:22] <Dr_willis> ek,  virtual private network or somthing? :) i dont mess with that complex stuff.. if you are using X -query now, Im pretty sure that is xdmcp.
[01:22] <ek> Dr_willis: Okay. I'll take your word for it.
[01:22] <CorbinFox> elmer: it hink the first one is it i think
[01:23] <elmer> CorbinFox, OK!
[01:23] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  used to be a issue back then. Not so much now a days. 2 sessions of gnome or kde. can cause a little confusion . but not as much.
[01:23] <ek> So, any pages online or anything I could take a peek at to help me get started with my GDM edit?
[01:23] <CorbinFox> elmer: does that configuraiton work?
[01:23] <ek> Or would I have to go about this another way?
[01:23] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, even with the same /home?
[01:23] <Dr_willis> ek,  google for 'ubuntu xdmcp enable'
[01:23] <ek> Dr_willis: Thanks.
[01:23] <elmer> CorbinFox, I am checking, brb
[01:23] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  yep.  not much of an issue these days.   used to be major issues.. Like logging out of one gnome session would log out of them ALL. :)
[01:23] <monkey89> im trying to get suspend to work consistently on my laptop.  when it fails, the back light comes on, but X never pops back.  caps lock on the internal keyboard does cause the light to toggle, and I can use alt-sysrq-b to reboot, but my usb keyboard has no effect.  when suspend works, the light comes on, turns off, and the ncomes on again.  does anyone have any ideas?
[01:24] <ronmexico> is anybody on heron with an ati card having trouble with 3d games
[01:24] <ronmexico> or know how to fix it?
[01:24] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, do you have to be different users when logging in? if not how do file locks work?
[01:24] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for hardy please
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  test it out. install vnc4server, run a vncsession thats running 'gnome-session' and find out. :)
[01:25] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  if you ran it as a different user, it wouldent be any problems at all even in the old days.
[01:25] <ubuntu_> hey guys, it's dmsuperman
[01:25] <ubuntu_> i'm trying to reinstall grub
[01:25] <ubuntu_> but i get an error, device doesn't exist
[01:25] <ubuntu_> Error 12: Invalid device requested
[01:25] <Dr_willis> and how are you trying to reinstall...
[01:26] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: live cd. sudo grub, then find /boot/grub/stage1
[01:26] <elmer> CorbinFox, GAH!! 800x600!!!
[01:26] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: which returns hd1,5. Then I do "root (hd1,5)" then "setup (hd1)"
[01:26] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  i normally chroot into the installed system, befor doing the various update grub vommands.
[01:26] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: what's chrooot/
[01:26] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  you are using  root (hd1,5) from bash? or the grub command line?
[01:26] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, didn't realize he was trying to do it remotely.. I was thinking of doing it at the machine itself at the same time.
[01:27] <ek> Dr_willis: Ah. Okay. That seems to work just fine.
[01:27] <ubuntu_> grub command line
[01:27] <ek> Dr_willis: However, how would I go about running that along side my local X session?
[01:27] <ek> Seems I need to choose one or the other.
[01:27] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  thers possible some steps you missed. check that fixgrub factoid page.
[01:27] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[01:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:28] <elmer> CorbinFox, trying the second xorg.conf I linked you...
[01:28] <Dr_willis> ek,  you can login once, then select the login as differetn user, menu item and it will go back to gdm/kdm and let you login again. if you got gdm/kdm set right
[01:28] <Aval0n> is there a command to have apt-get cleanup old files
[01:28] <Aval0n> besides -autoremove
[01:29] <Dr_willis> 'user switcher' applet item lets ya do it here . under gnome i notice.
[01:29] <acomaco> I\m running from a live cd..and my usb memory stick only got 494.8mb free while in windows it shows 1.6gb free?
[01:29] <travisat> Aval0n: what do you mean by clean up old files
[01:29] <elmer> CorbinFox, I am going to do something bad.
[01:29] <acomaco> i mean it shows 494.8 free in live cd..
[01:29] <Aval0n> well
[01:29] <Aval0n> I'm convinced that after my update-manager -d
[01:29] <Aval0n> that it didn't remove all the old stuff
[01:30] <Aval0n> looking at my HD usage
[01:30] <CorbinFox> elmer: try to find a scapegoat first if you can
[01:30] <Dr_willis> ek,  you can run into issues doing it this way. if you are using kdm, and log into the gnome desktop. It will expect gdm to be running. :(  so it wont work that way
[01:30] <ek> Dr_willis: Okie dokie. I see what you mean. Thanks.
[01:30] <Dr_willis> ek,  also visa-versa if using gdm, and running kde. you can have issues
[01:30] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: When I try running setup (hd0) it says Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[01:30] <ek> Dr_willis: Well, it seems GDM is the default for Kubuntu?
[01:30] <travisat> Aval0n: do apt-get clean  apt saves old debs you need to clean it out occasionally
[01:30] <Aval0n> ok
[01:30] <Aval0n> thnx
[01:30] <StevenX> how come i can't delete my shortcut to my vista desktop? it says not same file system. what's the problem
[01:30] <ek> Dr_willis: Alrighty. I'll play with it and see what I can come up with. Thanks again.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  ive always chroot'ed into the isntalled the installed system after properly remounting /proc and /dev to the proper locations.
[01:31] <localadmin> hi, quick question:  my gf has 7.04 on her machine and wants to upgrade to 7.10 but upgrade manager doesn't show gutsy available because she had initially said to ignore the upgrade.  how do we get the upgrade to go?
[01:31] <localadmin> tia
[01:31] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: how do i do that?
[01:32] <travisat> localadmin: edit /etc/apt/sources.list change all feisty to gutsy,  then do apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:32] <travisat> localadmin: edit /etc/apt/sources.list change all feisty to gutsy,  then do apt-get update  and apt-get dist-upgrade I mean
[01:32] <CorbinFox> ok, well, since my client doesn't seem to carry the logs that far back i am ashamed to ask this again...how to kill xorg and work with terminal only?
[01:32] <Pelo> localadmin, if ou have the 7.10 cd handy it will make things quicker
[01:33] <localadmin> sounds scary.  what if we mess it up?  isn't there an better then editing the sources file?
[01:33] <habernet> how do i uninstall amarok through terminal?
[01:33] <Pelo> localadmin,  do not folow travisat 's advice
[01:33] <Pelo> !upgrade > localadmin  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[01:33] <ubuntu_> habernet: sudo apt-get remove amarok
[01:33] <acomaco> hmm..
[01:33] <acomaco> Anyone?
[01:33] <bazhang> I was going to suggest same as travisat
[01:33] <ubuntu_> !patience | acomaco
[01:34] <ubotu> acomaco: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:34] <travisat> !upgrade
[01:34] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:34] <acomaco> Sorry :)
[01:34] <Pelo> acomaco, anyone what ?
[01:34] <ubuntu_> Pelo
[01:34] <StevenX> how come i can't delete my shortcut to my vista desktop? it says not same file system. what's the problem
[01:34] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  ?
[01:34] <ubuntu_> how can i privmsg you in irssi?
[01:34] <ubuntu_> do you know?
[01:34] <acomaco> Pelo, Ubuntu live CD only detects 494.8mb free, when its 1.8gb..
[01:34] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  i normally follow the  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-9e881d9c5bd9a6de1c9b91c4ad388cdd131d0cea    The info below 'Preparing Your Working Environment'  is about what i normally do.
[01:34] <Pelo> StevenX, open a terminal and sudo rm it
 I\m running from a live cd..and my usb memory stick only got 494.8mb free while in windows it shows 1.6gb free?
[01:35] <StevenX> pelo, thank you.
[01:35] <StevenX> pelo, how do i create a shortcut again?
[01:35] <Pelo> acomaco, live cd uses part of your memory to make a virtual drive to run on
[01:35] <Daren92> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[01:35] <NickDngr> i don't know if i like the nvidia driver or not :\
[01:35] <bazhang> Daren92: wrong channel
[01:35] <Pelo> StevenX, ln -s  /source /destination
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> whoops
[01:35] <StevenX> thank you.
[01:36] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  after the 'chroot' command in that guide, i can then  run 'update-grub' or any other grub related commands.  Or install packages, and so forth.
[01:36] <boxybrown> can anyone help with "apache2: Syntax error on line 298 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/secure: No such file or directory"
[01:36] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  and yes that guide is a bit confusing because it details like 20 DIFFERENT Ways to do about the same thing.
[01:37] <boxybrown> the directory does infact exist ls /etc/apache2/site-enabled/secure lists all kinds of files
[01:37] <NickDngr> switching from the opengl drivers to the nvidia drivers, did anyone else feel like their system was...less responsive?
[01:37] <travisat> NickDngr: not here
[01:37] <NickDngr> it doesn't feel as...quick
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[01:38] <LjL> ugh
[01:39] <elmer> CorbinFox, I have done something bad. I gave up on getting my Wacom to work. So let it be known throughout the land, and pray that I do not get banned.
[01:39] <ek> Dr_willis: I think I may go the rc.local route actually. A simple 'xinit -- /usr/bin/X -query IP.HE.RE -ac :1 vt8' seems to do the trick exactly.
[01:40] <ek> Dr_willis: Until I figure out better way, this should work fine.
[01:40] <ek> Again, thanks for all your help.
[01:40] <Dr_willis> ek,  yep.   been ther, done that also.
[01:40] <ek> Dr_willis: :P Trials and tribs!
[01:40] <Dr_willis> ek,  you are querying the xdmcp server on machine ip.#
[01:40] <ek> Dr_willis: yes.
[01:40] <acomaco> Pelo, i tried it on two diffrent computers, with diffrent amount of ram, showing the exact same values..
[01:41] <ek> Just need it to bind to TTY8 and do it at boot is all.
[01:41] <ek> Anyhow, I get to go home now. So, see you all later! :P
[01:41] <lwizardl> anyone here use DC++
[01:41] <Pelo> acomaco, I don'T know , maybe the live cd just leaves that much ram untouched and uses the rest for a virtual hdd
[01:42] <acomaco> Pelo, okey thanks anyway :d
[01:43] <LjL> Dave2, ^
[01:44] <pressureman> i'm trying to learn how to use PPA, and have read the docs, but there's something still not clear.
[01:44] <pressureman> i just want to compile postgresql-8.3.1 for gutsy, and add it to my PPA
[01:45] <pressureman> i see that the sources have already been backported to gutsy, but there are no binary debs yet
[01:45] <allquixotic_> is there any way to see system users in GNOME Users and Groups?
[01:45] <Oddar> anyone?
[01:45] <bazhang> Oddar: we need a question
[01:47] <pressureman> is PPA basically a build-bot? or will i have to build the package on my system locally?
[01:51] <CorbinFox> i am trying to change my nvidia drivers from nvidia-glx-new to nvidia-glx-legacy, but i dont know if there is anything special i need to do.  Can I just mark legacy for installation and mark new for uninstallation?
[01:52] <CorbinFox> im thinking that will break something...
[01:56] <ahave_> When configuring SAMBA... after i make changes to smb.conf, would a samba reload set those changes?
[01:56] <acomaco> hmm..
[01:57] <acomaco> i got it installed now but still it only detects 494 :S
[01:57] <wigren> corbinfox: i cant give you any worthy advice but to say that i did that on my desktop and when i rebooted i only had 800X600 res. I wouldnt unless you have to
[01:59] <Shpook> Has any ever heard of Guitar Pro for Windows? If so, does anyone know a program for linux similar to that?
[01:59] <Shpook> Guitar Pro is a program to compose music using tablature and MIDI, if it helps
[02:01] <ahave_> how can i restart the samba client?
[02:01] <Shpook> Wow...it's usually so busy in here...
[02:02] <Shpook> Run  /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart at the command line.
[02:02] <Shpook> I think...
[02:02] <CorbinFox> If i wanted to downgrade my nvidia driver from nvidia-glx-new to nvidia-glx-legacy how would i go about that? just iinstall the legacy package and uninstal the new package?  that sounds wrong, but i dont know how to
[02:02] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  try: apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new
[02:02] <travisat> Shpook: I know of several midi composers for linux search for jack apps or midi apps, a quick apt search found kguitar
[02:03] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:03] <hyperstream> is the old one i believe
[02:03] <mseney> running openbsd 4.2 and the latest version 4.3 only has firefox <IP_ADDRESS>..would i be safer using ubuntu which has a new version of firefox?
[02:03] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: okay, i'll try that
[02:03] <mseney> correction: only has <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:03] <ahave_> Shpook, thanks. That did restart samba
[02:04] <chuck> travisat: ?
[02:04] <Shpook> travisat: I forgot about JACK, kguitar only play Guitar Pro files.
[02:04] <ahave_> Shpook, i still can not get my samba share to change workgroups correctly
[02:05] <hyperstream> travisat,  is there anything for along the lines of Fruity Loops ?
[02:05] <Shpook> ahave_:  did you change the workgroup in smb.conf?
[02:05] <ahave_> sphook, yes
[02:05] <Shpook> hyperstream: Even something like that would be perfect.
[02:06] <hyperstream> about a year ago
[02:06] <hyperstream> i had ubuntu going- there is one that is basicly a clone of FL
[02:06] <hyperstream> let me look it up
[02:06] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: okay, did that.  now i guess i just restart and it should be set?
[02:06] <travisat> hyperstream: I don't know much about windows based stuff,  I like rosegarden
[02:06] <ahave_> shpook, and the smbclient output even reflects some of those changes that i made... but for some reason it continues to show my workgroup as the old
[02:06] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, yep- GL
[02:07] <Stroganoff> hyperstream: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/lmms
[02:07] <ColdBeer> hey how do i change the ubuntu ssh banner?
[02:07] <Shpook> ahave_: did you disable the old workgroup on the windows machine?
[02:07] <hyperstream> Shpook, LMMS - Linux MultiMedia Studio
[02:07] <hyperstream> thanks Stroganoff
[02:07] <Shpook> ahave_: IF you're using a windows box to network
[02:07] <ColdBeer> how do i change the ssh banner Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
[02:07] <ColdBeer> applicable law.
[02:07] <ahave_> Shpook, i am using a windows box to check.. how do i disable?
[02:08] <Shpook> hyperstream: Dude, you rock my world.
[02:08] <hyperstream> its not to bad
[02:09] <Shdw|Laptop> Does anyone know how to run two different monitors at a different resolution?
[02:09] <travisat> hyperstream: that looks interesting
[02:09] <Shpook> ahave_: I don't quite remember on Windows, but I think you have to disable the whole network on the windows box, then create a new one. after that setup samba, and restart samba. that's how I got mine working.
[02:09] <Shpook> hyperstream: At least it's something. I just need to be able to write music.
[02:09] <hyperstream> it is
[02:10] <hyperstream> travisat,  look up fruityloops now that is a pretty WELL DONE application for writing music
[02:10] <rencore_> what is a good partition editor for ubuntu so that i may make a new partition to install another os on
[02:10] <hyperstream> LMMS is basicly as close to it as i know withing the linux world
[02:10] <Shpook> And it supports VSTi plugins...yay/
[02:10] <Shdw|Laptop> rencore_: gparted
[02:10] <hyperstream> step by step sequinzier (spelling)
[02:10] <rencore_> Shdw|Laptop, i try it but it just keeps saying scanning all devices
[02:11] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: well, my system hasn't exploded so im thinking it is okay
[02:11] <Shpook> rencore_:  try gparted
[02:11] <Zackymc_k> is there an app for using a 5 button mouse and changing the 4&5 button and there function
[02:11] <Shpook> rencore_: Oops, I was too late.
[02:11] <Shdw|Laptop> How long did you let it sit?
[02:11] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, Gratz! :)
[02:11] <Stroganoff> ColdBeer: /etc/motd
[02:11] <rencore_> Shdw|Laptop, a couple minutes
[02:11] <Stroganoff> ColdBeer: /etc/issue
[02:11] <CorbinFox> now i must jsut wait a bit to see if the bug sticks, and if not, then I shall put you on my list of people to make high officials in my new world order.  thanks!
[02:12] <hyperstream>  rotf- thanks :D
[02:12] <travisat> hyperstream: well the one thing I really like about linux and jack is that I can use a bunch of seperate programs and have their output routed around,  so I can use a seperate synth to a seq editor and a seperate drum machine routed to the same seq and so one
[02:12] <Shpook> Zackymc_k: I think you can do it through xorg.conf
[02:12] <ColdBeer> thanks
[02:12] <localadmin> okay, just rejoining the conv.. thx to people who responded already.    I already followed the link from ubotu (it came up googling) and I could not figure out what to do.  the ubuntu documentation online says to run update manager and that's it.   however, the upgrade to Feisty page does say you can blow away your .update-manager folder and try again to remedy this.  I think this may be the better solution
[02:12] <hyperstream> travisat,  that actually sounds pretty hot
[02:12] <ColdBeer> ok so i setup ssh, how do i restrict users to their home dir, when they sftp into my box?
[02:12] <Shpook> Zackymc_k: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316441 See if that helps.
[02:13] <ColdBeer> Straganoff - thanks
[02:13] <rencore_> Shdw|Laptop, i started it again when you mentioned it and it is still going
[02:14] <ColdBeer> has anyone seens a weather app that will display the 5 day forcast for Gnome?
[02:14] <Shdw|Laptop> rencore_, I'm not sure what to say... It has always just worked for me after letting it sit for a while.
[02:14] <Shpook> ColdBeer: I knew of one, but I think it was a widget. I just use iGoogle with weather forecast.
[02:15] <rencore_> Shdw|Laptop, it finished thanks
[02:15] <hyperstream> omg- whats the terminal command to view active cpu useage
[02:15] <sveakex> hey, can anybody help me with my laptop? when i connect a speaker or a headphone to it, the internal speakers don't turn off
[02:15] <hyperstream> topcpu or something
[02:15] <hyperstream> nvm its top
[02:15] <travisat> top?
[02:15] <sveakex> hyperstream: htop is better :p
[02:15] <Shpook> top
[02:16] <niuq> hi, i have this error when i try to boot from ubuntu cd live : ACPI: unable to load the system description tables
[02:16] <rencore_> Shdw|Laptop, how can i resize my harddrive the icons are all locked off
[02:16] <niuq> and it says: kernel  panic - no syncing: no init found
[02:16] <hsuh> do i still have to do manual configuration to setup bitlbee on ubuntu gutsy?
[02:17] <hyperstream> sveakex, so it is
[02:17] <sveakex> hyperstream: much easier to use and it is a real power tool :p
[02:17] <hyperstream> your not wrong lol
[02:17] <sveakex> :)
[02:18] <Shpook> "Warning: 'with' will become a reserved keyword in Python 2.6" Hmm...gonna have to look that up.
[02:18] <ASSASSIN> hey guys
[02:19] <ASSASSIN> anyone willing to help me out with something?
[02:19] <gogeta> ope
[02:19] <gogeta> lol
[02:19] <Shdw|Laptop> What do you need?
[02:19] <sveakex> hey, can anybody help me with my laptop? when i connect a speaker or a headphone to it, the internal speakers don't turn off :(
[02:19] <dmsuperman> Pelo, I got it with supergrub, thanks a ton :D
[02:19] <ASSASSIN> i just installed Ubuntu and i was trying to configure my ATI drivers
[02:19] <gogeta>  sveakex mute em yourself?
[02:19] <dmsuperman> Pelo, supergrub was able to detect my harddrive as it should
[02:19] <dmsuperman> ASSASSIN, good luck
[02:20] <ASSASSIN> and for some reason my xorg.conf got cleared fully
[02:20] <jsoftw> my sound is not playing. Seems something or another has used it and not released it or something. Any ideas how to just make it work?
[02:20] <jsoftw> And why only one thing seems to be able to play in the first place?
[02:20] <jkarns> whatup
[02:20] <sveakex> gogeta: then my headphones get muted aswell
[02:20] <Shpook> !ATI
[02:20] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:20] <gogeta>  sveakex somelaptops the speaker and headphones are indenpendint sound configs
[02:20] <oal753> hello?
[02:20] <Shpook> ASSASSIN: try that link first things first
[02:21] <oal753> i have a question
[02:21] <sveakex> gogeta: so which one should i mute?
[02:21] <gogeta>  sveakex diffrent volum controle for eatch
[02:21] <ASSASSIN> ok will do
[02:21] <gogeta>  sveakex well if you have a headset volum controle
[02:21] <gogeta>  sveakex must anything but that
[02:21] <oal753> everytime i try to login my screen goes black then it brings me back to the login screen
[02:21] <gogeta>  sveakex mute
[02:21] <oal753> wtf
[02:22] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: i see no issues yet and nothing in the log.  unless this is a horrible, horrible joke by God i think the problem is fixed :D
[02:22] <oal753> does anyone know what to do??
[02:22] <oal753> about that??
[02:22] <gogeta>  sveakex that should give you the effect your looking for
[02:22] <harveyd> ok, just installed hardy heron twice from 2 different cd's from 2 different downloads
[02:23] <hooh> oal753, ?
[02:23] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, yay :)
[02:23] <ahave> how can i add users to SAMBA so that a windows box when trying to connect will be prompted with a username/pswrd login screen?
[02:23] <oal753> yea
[02:23] <harveyd> neither time I can log in with a standard session, I need to choose "gnome failsafe" to login
[02:23] <oal753> same here!!!!
[02:23] <sveakex> gogeta: just got pcm, front and 2 mikes what i can playback from
[02:23]  * CorbinFox puts hyperstream on list of people to appoint to high status in new world order
[02:23] <oal753> harveyd i have the same problem
[02:23] <hyperstream> lol
[02:23] <harveyd> oal753: really, did you get it fixed?
[02:23] <gogeta> sveakex: i beleve front would be the headset
[02:23] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: thank you kindly, you just made my only gripe with my system fixed
[02:24] <oal753> no i had to login the "gnome failsafe" way'
[02:24] <gogeta> sveakex: 2 mics?
[02:24] <Raditz> how do i move a file into a dir that is owned by root when there was no root password set up?
[02:24] <jsoftw> How to make my sound work.
[02:24] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, no worries, just reinstalled ubuntu since the last year or so, went on a wow gaming frenzy
[02:24] <oal753> ive been trying to figure it out
[02:24] <dmsuperman> !dualboot
[02:24] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:24] <Flannel> !sudo | Raditz
[02:24] <ubotu> Raditz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[02:24] <jsoftw> It was working sweet, then something stopped it from working (ie, while the box was running). Seems /dev/dsp is in use.
[02:24] <sveakex> gogeta: internal and external, but muting front seems to work
[02:24] <gogeta> sveakex: acully front would be the speakers
[02:25] <gogeta> sveakex: pcm would be the card itsself
[02:25] <Zackymc_k> ok that is very confusing is there a app for this
[02:25] <harveyd> oal753: well I was kinda hoping to not have to do that forever :P
[02:25] <gogeta> sveakex: well ok then
[02:25] <gogeta> :)
[02:25] <oal753> haha yea me neither
[02:25] <oal753> but it works the same?
[02:25] <sveakex> gogeta: odd i didn't notice that before, i mean, i have had that laptop for 13 months
[02:25] <gogeta> heh
[02:25] <harveyd> well it doesnt run startup scripts
[02:25] <sveakex> gogeta: x)
[02:25] <jsoftw> *sigh*
[02:25] <jsoftw> Fucking ubuntu.
[02:25] <harveyd> so im guessing apache / server will need to be launched manually
[02:26] <oal753> hm
[02:26] <harveyd> plus everything you usually put in bashrc
[02:26] <sveakex> gogeta: btw, does ubuntu have something like init scripts like gentoo or rc.d daemons like arch? like for example how could i start an apache server on boot?
[02:26] <oal753> i want to fix it though
[02:26] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: well, it just happened again....
[02:26] <oal753> its annoying
[02:26]  * CorbinFox sadly removes hyperstream's name from list
[02:26] <ASSASSIN> Well I tried the link i have version 7.10 so i tried it and it said your hardware does not need restricted drivers
[02:26] <sveakex> gogeta: since my friend is running ubuntu on his server/desktop, it would be interesting to know
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> what was mistercursingman's issue?
[02:26] <hyperstream> what are you doing exactly when it occurs?
[02:26] <gogeta> sveakex: you just add it to rc.d
[02:26] <fsmw> hello, i'm trying to install an hardy-alternate iso from a usb memory in my laptop, i don' have a cdrom drive, and installer ask me for one to mount it, does anybody knows how to avoid this?
[02:26] <Tanha> there is something problem with my grub. whenever i restart my ubuntu every single time i have to edit correct partition.. where i can found the grub conf file to make changes permenantly
[02:27] <gogeta> sveakex: i forget the command someone hear will tell ya
[02:27] <bazhang> his sound Daisuke_Ido
[02:27] <dmsuperman> jsoftw, precisely the thing to say in a channel called #ubuntu
[02:27] <Flannel> fsmw: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[02:27] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: well thats the thing, it seems to just happen whenever.  tho i seem to notice it mostly when firefox is running.  i dont know if the error happens when firefox isn't running (perhaps that is the next step)
[02:27] <gogeta> hey whats the rd.d ad commmand guys
[02:27] <gogeta> add
[02:27] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  try opera or something trail and error
[02:28] <hyperstream> could be a firefox issue perhaps
[02:28] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: i have tried removing all the extensions but that didnt help, but oddly enough foxy Tunes just destroys firefox (it would freeze every few seconds)
[02:28] <CorbinFox> well the thing is it isn't just firefox freezing...the entire desktop freezes save for the cursor
[02:28] <Flannel> !bum | gogeta
[02:28] <ubotu> gogeta: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:28] <sveakex> gogeta ubotu: thanks!
[02:29] <ASSASSIN> shpook u have any idead?
[02:29] <Shdw|Laptop> does anyone have experience with dual monitors here?
[02:29] <dmsuperman> I've got Ubuntu and Windows installed, with grub. All I need now is to edit my menu.lst to boot windows, but I'm not sure what to add. Does there happen to be a factoid about it? Or does anybody know?
[02:29] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: although in this case it happened when i was playing a flash video from arstechnica....perhaps it is related to flash or something?  could have just been a coicidence
[02:29] <Shdw|Laptop> dmsuperman, windows wasn't added automatically to grub?
[02:29] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  replay it :D
[02:29] <Tanha> hai guys have some problem with GRUB. whenever i restart my linux have to edit partition manually and identify the linux kernel in which partition.. so is there anyhow i can make changes permenant?
[02:30] <dmsuperman> Shdw|Laptop, no, I had to use supergrub to install grub again because normal grub wasn't working properly
[02:30] <CorbinFox> shall do
[02:30] <nickrud> dmsuperman what partition is your windows install on?
[02:30] <dmsuperman> first disk, first primary partition
[02:30] <free1> sorry for the noob question, but where can I find the crash dumps on my system?
[02:30] <nickrud> dmsuperman a sec, I'll give you a stanza
[02:30] <dmsuperman> thanks :D
[02:30] <nickrud> free1 /var/crash
[02:31] <free1> nickrud: thanks
[02:31] <ASSASSIN> Well I tried the link i have version 7.10 so i tried it and it said your hardware does not need restricted drivers
[02:31] <gogeta> sveakex i have a pc with a 5 pice so i figured outn that trick on sounmdcards lol kinda hard to runng a window brakers at night
[02:31] <dmsuperman> nickrud, it's located at /dev/sdb1 if that changes anything
[02:31] <sveakex> gogeta: :P
[02:31] <gogeta> sveakex so i switch out to headsets
[02:32] <Tanha> !grub Tanha
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub tanha - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <nickrud> dmsuperman yes, it does, that's not the first disk first partition :) Where's linux?
[02:32] <sveakex> gogeta: hehe, btw, do you have experience upgrading ubuntu?
[02:32] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: well, it hasn't happened yet, and im farther through the video than before...arstechnica's vid servers must be slow XD
[02:32] <Shdw|Laptop> !grub | Tanha
[02:32] <ubotu> Tanha: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:32] <sveakex> like from 7.10 to 8.04
[02:32] <gogeta> sveakex some
[02:33] <sveakex> gogeta: does it generally work well?
[02:33] <gogeta> sveakex lol no
[02:33] <ASSASSIN> sdadsa
[02:33] <gogeta> sveakex not a dist upgrade anyways
[02:33] <jaym> anyone have the apt source for latest openoffice?
[02:33] <sveakex> gogeta: hm, maybe a reinstall is better, or to change to a distribution with a rolling release
[02:33] <dmsuperman> nickrud, hd0,5
[02:33] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: i am not entirely sure it is firefox tho...it could be amarok (i have it running ALWAYS, pulsradio ftw) and often have Azureus running too (seeding ubuntu :D )
[02:33] <bazhang> sveakex: the upgrade works fine
[02:33] <gogeta> sveakex they do that for the betas
[02:33] <ColdBeer> whats igoogle
[02:34] <dmsuperman> nickrud, /dev/sdb2
[02:34] <gogeta> sveakex but i tryed it the text way i hear using there command works better
[02:34] <sveakex> bazhang: any possibility to update now to the beta?
[02:34] <gogeta> sveakex worst case you reformat anyways
[02:34] <dmsuperman> nickrud, I know it doesn't make sense, but just pretend it does. My SATA drives are reversed :P
[02:34] <CorbinFox> on second thought i doubt it is either, since i remember the issue happening when im not running them
[02:34] <sveakex> gogeta: i always use the terminal :)
[02:34] <sveakex> ;) *
[02:34] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, prolly a good time to trail and error by disabling apps
[02:34] <bazhang> sveakex: sure; meet me in #ubuntu+1
[02:34] <ColdBeer> has anyone ever setup smtp auth?
[02:34] <gogeta> sveakex i hear gui = better for a dist upgrade
[02:34] <sveakex> bazhang: aight
[02:34] <Tanha> !oracle
[02:34] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[02:34] <sveakex> gogeta: i don't know :s
[02:34] <dmsuperman> nickrud, /dev/sdb2 is my linux, /dev/sdb1 is my windows, and according to menu.lst it's hd0,5 to boot ubuntu
[02:35] <gogeta> sveakex some nedded scripts dont get ran using just apt
[02:35] <bazhang> gogeta: makes no difference
[02:35] <gogeta> sveakex at least any upgrade in the past i did
[02:35] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: and how would I do that? just go into system monitor and kill random things? that sounds dangerous.
[02:35] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, or starting from no apps- and open one by one with a time limit to test see which app it is, or if it isnt an app regardless of open or not open apps,
[02:35] <nickrud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7067/ dmsuperman
[02:35] <sveakex> gogeta: ok
[02:35] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, even removing glx and reinstalling glx-new and trying it
[02:35] <Daisuke_Ido> cute, looks like i'm going without the fun extra applets in awn until they get it sorted out
[02:35] <dmsuperman> nickrud, thanks :d
[02:35] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, just additional applications that you have open
[02:36] <dmsuperman> nickrud, what's the map do?
[02:36] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: i was considering just reinstalling the system anyways...i remember what happened started at random one day (at least i hadn't caught the issue before then). dont know what i would have installed either way
[02:36] <gogeta> sveakex if you plain on keeping linux that long on a system a /home partation works gear
[02:36] <dmsuperman> nickrud, and makeactive? does that mean it'll be selected by default?
[02:36] <ahave> how can i configure SAMBA so that it prompts for a username login when trying to acces from a windows box?
[02:36] <gogeta> sveakex you can reformat /the root and not lose anything in home
[02:36] <sveakex> gogeta: yeah, but i am too lazy to have that on teh family laptop, i have that on my main gentoo box
[02:37] <sveakex> the*
[02:37] <nickrud> dmsuperman a sec phone
[02:37] <gogeta> sveakex lol so it just has a root
[02:37] <dmsuperman> nickrud, no worries
[02:37] <sveakex> gogeta: yeah, my gentoo has a 20GB / and a 50 or 40gb windowsxp, and the rest goes to /home
[02:38] <free1> question on the crash dump files, how does one save them to be sent off
[02:38] <free1> ?
[02:38] <Tanha> howto install wireless card driver and i didn't find driver for belkin54g so is there anyway to install driver on ubuntu?
[02:38] <free1> I notice that trying to save them as txt files makes it seem encrypted
[02:39] <bazhang> Tanha: what is the chipset on that--is it pci internal, usb dongle, or pcmcia
[02:39] <Shdw|Laptop> Tanha, you can use ndiswrapper
[02:39] <gogeta> sveakex for a dule system you dont realy need home
[02:39] <free1> what is the best way to view a file of x-apport type?
[02:39] <gogeta> sveakex you can dump it onto the windows half anything personal
[02:39] <gogeta> sveakex when reformating
[02:39] <Tanha> !ndiswrapper
[02:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:39] <Tanha> thanks
[02:40] <free1> mrec: the reason I ask is because the file is of x-apport type and some of the contents appear 'encrypted'
[02:41] <sveakex> gogeta: well my ubuntu laptop doesnät :P
[02:41] <ASSASSIN> anyone got any idea how to fix this driver problem?
[02:42] <nickrud> dmsuperman back. Lost my wallet, that was the bank. That stanza is the standard for booting on a second drive, but the hd0,5 for linux says it might not be quite right. Add that to the very end of menu.lst . If it doesn't boot, remove the two map lines and try hd0,0
[02:42] <JyZyXEL> lol whats that cube where you can display workspaces?
[02:42] <mark[oz]> hey guys is there any sort of network bandwidth logger in ubuntu?
[02:42] <gogeta> sveakex well for a totaly upgrade iv seen it screw up but work fine the next time
[02:42] <Dr_willis> !cube | JyZyXEL
[02:42] <ubotu> JyZyXEL: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[02:42] <mark[oz]> so I can see what apps are using what network resources, and cap them, etc
[02:42] <dmsuperman> nickrud, does "setdefault" mean it'll be selected by default? if so, can i just remove it? (i want ubuntu default)
[02:43] <nickrud> dmsuperman no, that's nothing to do with choosing the default boot os
[02:43] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: perhaps i can just try out the Live CD wtihout installing and see if the issue is in there too?
[02:43] <dmsuperman> what does it do then?
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Now is a good time to check the grub manuals :)
[02:43] <Tanha> i forget my root passwd is there anyhow i can retrive it back?
[02:43] <gogeta> dmsuperman to change the defult you just change the slection number
[02:43] <sveakex> gogeta: mm
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Tanha,  You mean your initial users password?
[02:43] <dmsuperman> gogeta, thanks :d
[02:44] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  guess so
[02:44] <Tanha> Dr_willis : ye
[02:44] <max_> I'd really like to convert some of the office users to Ubuntu.  How do we connect to the active Domain, Windows 2003 server domain controller?
[02:44] <nickrud> dmsuperman sorry, it does. brainfart. But only if the default entry at the beginning is default=savedefault
[02:45] <nickrud> dmsuperman so, unless you change the default 0 to default savedefault to be clear
[02:45] <dmsuperman> nickrud, cool. thanks for your help :D
[02:45] <gogeta> dmsuperman its a 0123 format
[02:45] <dmsuperman> yeah
[02:45] <max_> At login, we need to use our network login to log on.  How do we do this ?   I tried adding the domain to Networking, but it just doesn't work like how it does in windoze
[02:45] <Dr_willis> Tanha,  the first users password, and 'sudo' password are not the same as the  root uders password.  - Ive booted the live cd, and chrooted to the installed system and reset passwords befor with 'passwd USERNAME' in the past.
[02:46] <nickrud> dmsuperman again memory fails. I looked it up, the correct would be    default saved , that way it will default to the last chosen os.
[02:46] <Tanha> alright man
[02:46] <Tanha> thanks
[02:46] <h2os> tying to mount ramdisk after mkfs.ext2, get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/ram0 any suggestions?
[02:46] <hooh> h2os, doing what
[02:47] <gogeta> Dr_willis when youforget a password you type in everything you make any changes to the system
[02:47] <gogeta> Dr_willis your in a bad way
[02:47] <h2os> hooh, when i try to mount the ramdisk
[02:47] <Shdw|Laptop> does anyone know how to do a dual head configuration on an ATI card for two monitors with different resolutions?
[02:47] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  yep.
[02:47] <h2os> hooh, i get that error
[02:47] <gogeta> Dr_willis everyday lol
[02:47] <hooh> h2os, how do mount a ramdisk
[02:48] <gavi> folks my titlebar disapeared and i cannot move windows arround. any suggestions on how to fix this?
[02:48] <h2os> sudo mount /dev/ram0 /mnt/tmp
[02:48] <ahave> could someone explain to me the difference between a domain and a workgroup? I am trying to setup SAMBA
[02:48] <bazhang> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead this may help Shdw|Laptop
[02:49] <meowlud2> Hi all :)
[02:49] <meowlud2> How do i know what video drivers I have installed? I need to install  openGL - is there any easy way to do this using terminal?
[02:49] <gogeta> Dr_willis
[02:49] <gogeta> meowlud2 yep
[02:49] <hooh> !info hardwareinfo
[02:49] <ubotu> Package hardwareinfo does not exist in gutsy
[02:49] <hooh> !info hwinfo
[02:49] <ubotu> hwinfo (source: hwinfo): Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.35-1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 108 kB
[02:49] <meowlud2> awesome!
[02:49] <max_> Does anyone know how to connect to a Windows domain ?
[02:50] <meowlud2> is it sudo get-app opengl?
[02:50] <gogeta> ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[02:50] <gogeta> sudo apt-getinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:50] <hooh> meowlud2, sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[02:50] <meowlud2> how do i install the restroced extars?
[02:50] <gogeta> a space befor install
[02:50] <gogeta> lol
[02:50] <h2os> max_, you should check out sambahowto docs, have good examples http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[02:51] <meowlud2> thanks people! may the day be toasty and crunchy for all of you!
[02:52] <millertime_018> is there any way there is to speed up a torrent download?
[02:52] <max_> h2os : Been there, basically talks a lot about how to access shared files, not network logins... but im noob so I guess i'll just keep reading, if nobody here has ever done it
[02:52] <hyperstream> send more
[02:52] <kittykitty> h20s i just mke2fs /dev/ram0, then mount /dev/ram0 /mnt/ramdisk .. and it worked fine, are you doing something else?
[02:52] <max_> Seems like if we want to make Ubuntu more mainstream, we'd make it a little more Windows network compatible out-of-box
[02:52] <pushpop-> how do you install fonts in ubuntu?
[02:53] <hooh> !fonts | pushpop-
[02:53] <ubotu> pushpop-: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:53] <h2os> max_, do it, thats where i started, need to now some basics about you ad doamin, if it running in mixed mode or full AD
[02:53] <h2os> max_, do it = did it
[02:53] <max_> full AD
[02:54] <cellofellow> I'm having trouble forwarding ports with ssh. It seems to want to bind the ports for listening on the remote side, but all I want to do is open a client connection. Specifically I want to access Apache on the server using SSH tunnel.
[02:54] <h2os> basic smb.conf, where security = ads
[02:54] <kittykitty> cellefello which ssh client you using?
[02:54] <cellofellow> kittykitty: ssh
[02:54]  * kittykitty <3 putty
[02:54] <max_> h2os : I was dreaming of a magical checkbox "Click here if you are logging into a Windows NT server"    =)
[02:55] <cellofellow> kittykitty: ok, how do I do that then?
[02:55] <millertime_018> hey does anyone know how to speed up a torrent download?
[02:55] <millertime_018> i have like a 3 gig file coming in at like 10 kb/s
[02:55] <millertime_018> ?!
[02:55] <cellofellow> millertime_018: find faster seeds
[02:55] <Pelo> millertime_018, reduce your upload speed a bit
[02:55] <Tanha> !fstab
[02:55] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:55] <kittykitty> i use putty on my windows boxes to axs this box, and it has a really simple gui interface for setting up tunnels
[02:55] <bazhang> millertime_018: not really the channel for that; try a different client perhaps other than azureus
[02:55] <cellofellow> millertime_018: depends on your ISP, but encryption might help.
[02:56] <cellofellow> kittykitty: yes, soft of simple, I couldn't figure it out unfortunately.
[02:56] <millertime_018> thanx guys!
[02:56] <kittykitty> have you tried putty before?
[02:56] <h2os> max_, thats funny, we are talking samba right? maybe ubuntu includes basic smbclient tool, but depends on what you are trying to do
[02:56] <cellofellow> kittykitty: only for basic stuff
[02:56] <max_> h2os actualyl i think im looking for winbind info .. samba is easy =]
[02:56] <kindofabuzz> so sick of flash using up all the processor, is gnash any better?
[02:57] <max_> h2os , im trying to connect to the domain (mycompany.com) not just access shares
[02:57] <h2os> max_, can you wbinfo -g
[02:57] <h2os> max_, can you wbinfo -u
[02:57] <max_> h2os , im not at work right now
[02:57] <Pelo> kindofabuzz,  the very latest one uses a little less cpu
[02:57] <kindofabuzz> latest gnash or flash?
[02:57] <linkinxp> hey guys is there anyway to know what updates  the updated manager did!
[02:57] <theneb> except for compiz & screenlets, are there any other visual effects for ubuntu?
[02:57] <kittykitty> are you trying to open dynamic tunnels like a socks server would or just a single static one?
[02:57] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, latest flash
[02:58] <max_> theneb, beryl?
[02:58] <h2os> max_, well try those, they should enumerate your ad server, if not check out doc and see examples for win uid, gid and
[02:58] <kindofabuzz> pelo, i think i have the lastest, still using 100%
[02:58] <max_> h2os, thanks
[02:58] <bazhang> theneb: avant-window-navigator or awn
[02:58] <Pelo> theneb, gdesklets, l like screenlets but no compoziting ,  avant, conky
[02:58] <linkinxp> Pelo:  how are you doing?
[02:58] <theneb> cheers guys
[02:58] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, the latest is less then a week old
[02:58] <cellofellow> kittykitty: I want to connect client apps on port whatever to port 80 on the server
[02:58] <Pelo> linkinxp, giving out bad advice
[02:58] <zero88> Ok. I just installed a windows driver using ndiswrapper. Everything installed ok but when i try to load the module by typing     modprobe ndiswrapper. It seems ok but then i check dmesg and it doesnt show that the module ndiswrapper has loaded. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:58] <cellofellow> kittykitty: so, what do I need for that? Dynamic?
[02:59] <linkinxp> Pelo:  can i know how to know which updated i just got? is there any log?
[02:59] <h2os> is there a maximum allowed size ram disk (not just your physical amount of ram)
[02:59] <kindofabuzz> peo, i'll try it. should i unstall the one from repos?
[02:59] <Pelo> linkinxp, not that I know of
[02:59] <linkinxp> Pelo:  see bad advice lmao Jk
[02:59] <max_> linkinxp, there is, somewhere, i know it.
[02:59] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, no,  just dl the tar from the adobe site , and copy the .so file to both location where it is on your hdd
[03:00] <linkinxp> max_:  ???? yes?
[03:00] <kittykitty> open putty, load your profile, don't connect yet, goto the ssh/tunnels tree, then add a new source/destination for like a port for putty to listen on, then a destination of localhost:80
[03:00] <kindofabuzz> pelo, ok thanks
[03:00] <kittykitty> then just have your clients connect to your localhost:port and it should tunnel to your remote box
[03:00] <corinth> I'm getting an error after updating the Hardy beta:  E: ERROR: could not create configuration directory /home/root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory)
[03:00] <Pelo> linkinxp, what max has is called faith,  beleif without proof and little hope
[03:00] <corinth> Can't install packages now.
[03:00] <max_> its mostly just hope
[03:00] <linkinxp> Pelo:  hummm true
[03:01] <linkinxp> max_:  so?
[03:01] <cellofellow> ok... tried ssh me@myhost -D 12345 and connected firefox to localhost:12345 and got nothing.
[03:01] <linkinxp> where is it?
[03:01] <zero88> Can anyone tell me why modprobe wouldnt load a module?
[03:01] <Pelo> corinth, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:01] <bsrat> Is it possible for a motherboard to lose power due to too many devices or a brownout and subsequently kill a 6-month old harddrive?  It has eaten a harddrive before, about two years ago.  I'm hoping I get my rma back in time for the new release of hardy heron.
[03:01] <hpjchobbes> When the update manger checks for updates, does it only check for software that I have installed? I just installed ubuntu and it says I have 197 updates
[03:01] <corinth> Pelo, thanks.
[03:01] <kittykitty> you can also drop the security options on putty and have it accept other network traffic (i.e. not from local host) so you can have other remote hosts access your server from you as well
[03:01] <max_> its somewhere, i knew years ago =]     you want dpkg log right?
[03:01] <linkinxp> max_:  yes to know what got updated
[03:02] <max_> mah, i was here and asked that same question and some guru told me where it was... o well =}
[03:02] <cellofellow> kittykitty: this is weird
[03:02] <bazhang> hpjchobbes: checks for things installed via apt-get; stuff you compile or download from random websites dont get checked
[03:02] <Pelo> linkinxp, maxkelley  var/log/dpkg.log
[03:03] <linkinxp> Pelo:  is empty i mean it doesnt exist
[03:03] <hpjchobbes> I'm not sure what apt-get is (brand new to this). Is that the stuff from the Add/Remove under the main menu?
[03:03] <phuzion> Ok, so uTorrent froze a while ago, so I killed it, and restarted it, but half of the icon is still up by my clock.  How do I get that to refresh up there?
[03:03] <genii> hpjchobbes: When making things from source code, best to use checkinstall. It will create a deb file which then the packaging system can track
[03:03] <linkinxp> Pelo:  my bad i got it thanks!!
[03:04] <bazhang> hpjchobbes: synaptic, apt-get add/remove yeah they are all one
[03:04] <hoodieanon> Is it true that Ubuntu was designed for gays?
[03:04] <bazhang> hoodieanon: stop now
[03:04] <linkinxp> i love updats
[03:04] <zocky> isn't it a bit odd that the icon for the terminal says ">_" ?
[03:05] <Pelo> hoodieanon, absolutely, and by joining this channel you are not officialy gay
[03:05] <zocky> shouldn't that be "$_"?
[03:05] <hoodieanon> ah
[03:05] <linkinxp> hoodieanon:  si papi para gays!
[03:05] <linkinxp> lmao
[03:05] <hoodieanon> thankyou
[03:05] <hoodieanon> bazhang is mod?
[03:05] <bazhang> !ops | hoodieanon
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[03:06] <free1> nixternal
[03:06] <linkinxp> awwww
[03:06] <free1> he runs its
[03:06] <cocox_> Hi there guys, anybody knows a way to edit a mounted image in order to burn it again? i have mount an image an i can't edit it and neither let me change the permissions.... anyway i copy the mounted files, edit them and burn them again, but that is not the point i mean and also the burned CD haven't boot attributes....
[03:07] <kittykitty> cellofellow, i just browsed the man file for ssh, you need to setup your applications to connect to your ssh tunnel as though it were a socks server
[03:07] <kindofabuzz> Pelo, lol yeah now only 96% processor use.  did seem to help the choppyness a tad bit though
[03:07] <Pelo> nixternal, he was officialy gay now you are guilty of bashing
[03:07] <cellofellow> kittykitty: that sounds nutty
[03:07] <hpjchobbes> Is there a good resource that explains a lot of the terminal stuff for new users? A lot of the forum posts I see tell people what to type in a terminal window, but never explain what it is the commands do or why you are doing them.
[03:07] <free1> I need to save a crash dump file in readable form. what's really good with that?
[03:07] <free1> ya mean
[03:07] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, I did say "a little less" cpu
[03:07] <kindofabuzz> i know =)
[03:07] <sveakex> what is long term support good for anyways?
[03:07] <kittykitty> not to nutty, its actually pretty easy compared to somethings
[03:08] <kindofabuzz> i oficailly hate flash now, horrible in linux
[03:08] <JyZyXEL> lol
[03:08] <cellofellow> kittykitty: what about some of this simple static stuff? all I want is to connect as a client to a remote apache server with encryption.
[03:08] <Pelo> sveakex, mostly for business who don'T want to upgrade the distros every 6 monts
[03:08] <bazhang> cocox_: you want to remaster an iso?
[03:08] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, I prefer hating java but to each his own
[03:08] <kindofabuzz> isn't that what the IT dept. gets paid for?
[03:08] <kittykitty> i'd use putty for that, but i'm lazy and i know it works
[03:08] <cocox_> bazhang, i want to add files to the image an burn it to a disc
[03:09] <sveakex> Pelo: rolling release would be more beneficial for them, lts releases, do they get updated after the next version is out?
[03:09] <cellofellow> kittykitty: ok, what are the exact options?
[03:09]  * mneptok hrmfs
[03:09] <bazhang> cocox_: that would be remastering then; there is a tool for that let me check on it
[03:09] <Pelo> sveakex, support for dapper will end with the official release of hardy ,  and by support I mean security updates
[03:10] <cocox_> bazhang, oh rigth thank you
[03:10] <kindofabuzz> is it possible to install xfce with out doing the xubuntu-desktop? i don't need all it's crap
[03:10] <kittykitty> ok, open putty, in your "sessions page" select your session for this box, click "load" then in the configuration tree, at the bottom is a Connection-SSH-Tunnels tree
[03:10] <cellofellow> kittykitty: all I want is SSH to listen on a local port for a connection, and pop that stuff out on the other end as localhost:80
[03:10] <cellofellow> ok, found that
[03:10] <linkinxp> Windows vista says that Vnc has something wrong:( lmao
[03:10] <kittykitty> in the tunnels option, Source port: 12345, Destination localhost:80, remote then click add
[03:11] <kittykitty> then go back and save your settings to a new session
[03:11] <kittykitty> and connect
[03:11] <Tyrosine> >> My audio isn't working!  It was working a few days ago...  My device looks normal in "alsamixer" (everything 100%, unmuted) and I don't get errors, I just can't hear sound! (laptop) - any ideas?
[03:12] <dsnyders> Hi all.  I'm using kdiff3 to merge directories, and II would like to get it to NOT merge files.  Anyone know how to do that?
[03:12] <Pelo> Tyrosine, anything special happened ?
[03:12] <Shdw|Laptop> bazhang, I followed the link you gave me and got Big Desktop working... but one monitor is smaller, yet it's running at the bigger resolution
[03:12] <Pici> Pelo, sveakex: Dapper support (security updates) does not end until 2009 on the desktop and 2011 on the server.
[03:12] <zero88> Does anyone know where the config files for the wireless interface is located?
[03:12] <Shdw|Laptop> Do you have any idea how to make one monitor run at a smaller resolution?
[03:12] <Tyrosine> Pelo: I installed a restricted video driver, but that's about it
[03:12] <cellofellow> kittykitty: now I can connect to localhost:12345 with Firefox and it will serve as if I was using localhost:80 from the server?
[03:12] <z1> !ping me
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <sveakex> Pelo: so when 8.10 will be released no new packages for 8.04?
[03:12] <cellofellow> kittykitty: I get errors
[03:12] <kittykitty> ?
[03:12] <cellofellow> just a Page Load Error in Firefox, can't connect.
[03:12] <Pelo> Pici, don't worry no one listens to me I'm always wrong anyway
[03:13] <Pici> sveakex: When 8.04 is released there will be no new packages for 8.04, save backports.
[03:13] <referee-bot> i want to search 1 proxy live , how can i do it?
[03:13] <Pelo> sveakex, 8.04 is lts supported for 3 years
[03:13] <linkinxp> When i open 3 videos in Firefox i mean the Third one firefox crashes and reboots itself :O
[03:13] <cellofellow> kittykitty: can't connect to localhost 12345 with telnet
[03:13] <Pelo> or 4 I forget
[03:13] <bazhang> http://uck.sourceforge.net/ cocox_ and this as well --> http://fabrizioballiano.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/remastering-an-ubuntu-alternate-iso-with-ubuntu-customization-kit-the-complete-guide/
[03:13] <linkinxp> Pelo:  what do you think about that?
[03:13] <nickrud> Pelo 3 desktop, 5 server
[03:13] <sveakex> Pici: you mean when 8.10 is released there will be no new packages for 8.04?
[03:13] <Mighty_Penguin> Pelo i believe 3 years desktop, and 5 server
[03:13] <cocox_> bazhang, thank you very much i will check them! =)
[03:13] <Pelo> Tyrosine, restricted driver is probably the problem
[03:14] <referee-bot> i want to search 1 proxy live , how can i do it?
[03:14] <bazhang> cocox_: no worries ;]
[03:14] <Pelo> linkinxp, thnk about what ?
[03:14] <Pici> sveakex: Do you mean version upgrades or security patches?
[03:14] <linkinxp> Pelo:  When i open 3 videos in Firefox i mean the Third one firefox crashes and reboots itself :O
[03:14] <Pelo> !sound > Tyrosine  review this  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:14] <xoqa> after installing plone-site, what to do? what port is the site typically on?
[03:14] <Pelo> linkinxp, yeps welcome to FF3
[03:14] <bazhang> Shdw|Laptop: that does take a bit of tweaking; there are likely others here (or on the forums) who have a similar setup--let me take a quick look
[03:14] <linkinxp> Pelo:  FF3?
[03:15] <Shdw|Laptop> Ok, thank you
[03:15] <kittykitty> sorty, rty again with local instead of remote
[03:15] <Pelo> linkinxp, you're not using firefox 3 beta 5 , cause it does that
[03:15] <referee-bot> i want to search 1 proxy live , how can i do it?
[03:15] <cellofellow> kittykitty: ok
[03:15] <sveakex> Pelo: isn't it the same thing, if apache has a security vulnerability won't the newer version of apache be released on ubuntu?
[03:15] <xoqa> i know it should have said, and i thought i recorded the port correctly, but it's nothing on 8081
[03:15] <referee-bot> help me
[03:15] <linkinxp> Pelo:  i am!
[03:15] <cellofellow> kittykitty: same thing
[03:15] <nickrud> referee-bot restate your question please
[03:15] <Pelo> sveakex, a fix will be released not a new version
[03:15] <Werenerd> Pelo: well, that sucked
[03:16] <ingo> hallo 2gether! how can i convert a whole directory of html-files to pdf? do anyone know a script-solution??
[03:16] <referee-bot> i want to search 1 proxy live , how can i do it?
[03:16] <referee-bot> help me
[03:16] <playya> hi, anyone else fights against saa7134, too?
[03:16] <nickrud> referee-bot you need to restate the question, what proxy, which live?
[03:16] <sveakex> Pelo: ok..
[03:16] <Pelo> Werenerd, ubuntu does not update versions, within releases, only fixes and security stuff
[03:17] <hooh> referee-bot, goto search proxy list
[03:17] <bazhang> http://hobbylobby.wordpress.com/2007/12/16/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-dual-head-monitors-working/ Shdw|Laptop here is more info; this will apparently be improved (xrandr) in next release
[03:17] <Zelta> How would I get Vidalia working in ubuntu?
[03:17] <cellofellow> Werenerd: except for when you use backports repository, then you get new versions.
[03:17] <Shdw|Laptop> ok
[03:17] <Werenerd> Pelo: I was talking about the GNome color issues I was having. You were helping me earlier. I just got my UI back
[03:18] <Pelo> Werenerd, ho, you changed your nick
[03:18] <ingo> how can i convert a whole directory of html-files to pdf? do anyone know a script-solution??
[03:18] <dsnyders> Anybody know a good tool for merging directories?
[03:18] <Pelo> Werenerd, did yo manage to fix it ?
[03:18] <Werenerd> Pelo: I didn't realize... someone must have grabbed it
[03:18] <Pelo> Werenerd, I would not have remembered anyway
[03:18] <Werenerd> I just deleted the .gnome .gnome2 .gconf and .gconfd directories
[03:19] <kittykitty> funny cause i just loaded up putty to see if it worked, and i can netstat -an on my windows box and now i have a TCP <IP_ADDRESS>:12345 <IP_ADDRESS> LISTENING
[03:19] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/setup-vidalia-tor-gui-with-ubuntu-and.html Zelta this?
[03:19] <yotux> how can I remove a partition from my ubuntu system?
[03:19] <Werenerd> Pelo: I am now moving on from that problem to the next. I have been trying to fix my Samba setup for weeks and I am having no luck. It was working fine, then not at all. I can see my shared folders. just not the files inside. It keeps telling me they are deleted. Know anything about that?
[03:20] <Pelo> yotux, use gparted,  umount it and delete partition
[03:20] <Zelta> Yeah, thanks bazhang
[03:20] <Pelo> Werenerd, I know nothing about samba,  you might want to ask in #samba
[03:20] <yotux> Pelo,  I get a error when butting because I removed a partion will gpart take care of this?
[03:20] <Werenerd> Pelo: excellent idea
[03:20] <wil> i, I crashed to desktop from running a full screen app, now the video resolution has changed and my mouse is frozen... I need to restore my session and wondering what can I type to restore the mouse (then I can fix res through menu) I can only do alt+f2 run commands! Also, Xchat is maximised, so I can only see a few lines at a time... need help bad please!
[03:21] <HACK-HOTMAIL> ?
[03:21] <Pelo> yotux, no it won'T  edit your /etc/fstab file and remove the reference to the partittion you deleted
[03:21] <kittykitty> alt+ctrl+f1
[03:22] <Pelo> wil try jsut restarting x , ctrl alt backspace
[03:22] <yotux> Pelo: Thankz
[03:22]  * Pelo is on a roll
[03:22] <cellofellow> kittykitty: I got it
[03:22] <nickrud> wil if pelo's idea doesn't work, you can hit alt-f1 to get the menus, and open a terminal to work with
[03:23] <arooni-mobile> how do i telnet to localhost:8118 and then see if my tor/privoxy proxy is working ok?
[03:23] <cellofellow> ssh -f -L localport:localhost:remoteport remotehost sleep 10
[03:23] <Pelo> nickrud, your lack of faith is disturbing
[03:23] <nickrud> Pelo yup ;p
[03:23]  * nickrud saw pelo was on a roll (again) and just had to :)
[03:24]  * Pelo 's stride is broken now
[03:25] <sparr_> I have two repos.  One with high default priority, the other with higher priority for one package.  That package has dependencies only met in the second repo.  How can I get the dependencies from the second repo instead of an error that the versions in the first repo are not new enough?
[03:25] <happily> nickrud, hehe,what's up
[03:26] <nickrud> hi icesword Not much
[03:26] <geekyD> hello
[03:26] <Pelo> sparr_, are you talking about repos on a cd ?
[03:26] <sparr_> Pelo: no
[03:26] <wil> nickrud, thanks for that, been trying to do all combinations of winkey, had no idea you could access menu bar like that
[03:26] <bazhang> what repos sparr_ and what is your final goal
[03:26] <wil> I have fixed my resolution, but is there anyway to reset the mouse?
[03:26] <wil> it is frozen in one spot
[03:27] <Pelo> sparr_, repos are server based storage of files,  it doesn'T realy matter if stuff is on one or ther other,  apt should check them all to get taht it needs ,
[03:27] <sparr_> Pelo: i agree, it should
[03:27] <sparr_> bazhang: ubuntu and debian.  i want to install one package and its dependencies from debian.  right now ive got that package pinned to the debian repo, but apt says the dependencies coming from the ubuntu repo are too old
[03:28] <Pelo> wil I hate to say this but just reboot
[03:28] <nickrud> wil the X restart didn't fix it?
[03:28] <wil> restarting x works fine in the past, but I have some important windows open that I can not save
[03:28] <bazhang> sparr_: here I must defer; that is very risky behaviour
[03:28] <wil> 3 hours of work :( and it has no menu bars so I cant alt + whatever to save
[03:28] <wil> needs mouse :(
[03:28] <arooni-mobile> how do i fix:  http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  (ubuntu gutsy (i've already installed tor))
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Anyone else having problems with restricted drivers in 2.6.24-15-generic ?
[03:28] <nickrud> wil  clt-tab switches between windows, alt-F will activate the menu for each window
[03:28] <sparr_> bazhang: i agree, but i am left little choice when ubuntu doesn't get the new packages for months
[03:28] <decay> where phpmyadmin installed?
[03:29] <Pelo> wil let me try and figure out what hte process that controls the mouse his
[03:29] <Jordan_U> sparr_, What are you trying to install specifically?
[03:29] <bazhang> sparr_: then run sidux
[03:29] <sparr_> decay: dpkg -L phpmyadmin
[03:29] <sparr_> Jordan_U: wesnoth
[03:29] <decay> sparr_: thank you
[03:29] <wil> Pelo, i thought it was just hung, I know what app it was, I will try to look through task manager
[03:29] <nickrud> wil and clt-alt-<arrow> will switch between desktops
[03:29] <sparr_> bazhang: i dont see how that would be any better than just running debian
[03:30] <Jordan_U> sparr_, Is this the latest version? http://www.getdeb.net/app/The+Battle+for+Wesnoth
[03:30] <nickrud> Pelo X talks directly to the mouse, it's the process
[03:30] <wil> nickrud, its on the current desktop, the app just has no menus
[03:30] <nickrud> wil ah, bummer. try ctl-S for save, often works
[03:30] <Pelo> nickrud,  but isnT' the moust connected throught one of the getty ?
[03:31] <bazhang> sparr_: if you want the very newest of the new then that or fedora would be the best bets; going outside ubuntu to get the newest before they are officially certified not to break your machine is a seriously risky proposition
[03:31] <nickrud> Pelo no I don't think so. You can look at /etc/event.d for the getty defs
[03:31] <sparr_> Jordan_U: since thats from gutsy, almost certainly not.  i expect that that is 1.4-0, where hardy has 1.4-1, and debian unstable has 1.4-2
[03:31] <wil> what is the file name of task manager?
[03:31] <sparr_> bazhang: thanks for the warning.  now will you tell me how to do it?
[03:32] <nickrud> wil gnome-session-properties
[03:32] <bazhang> sparr_: you are talking about apt-pinning correct?
[03:32] <sparr_> bazhang: yes
[03:32] <arooni-mobile> how do i fix:  http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  (ubuntu gutsy (i've already installed tor)) ... i CANT install privoxy
[03:33] <Jordan_U> sparr_, Is there something wrong with the getdeb version?
[03:33] <sparr_> it's old?
[03:33] <kittykitty> actually arooni-mobile, you have installed it, you need to configure it now
[03:33] <sparr_> i could post a changelog
[03:33] <wil> nickrud, that is not even displaying all the apps running :S
[03:33] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, looks like it fialed to me
[03:34] <wil> Nickrud, is there another one?
[03:34] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[03:34] <nickrud> wil ah, wrong thing then.  gnome-system-monitor
[03:34] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto sparr_ here is some info; there is much more with the search terms ubuntu debian apt-pinning
[03:34] <kittykitty> try dpkg-reconfigure privoxy
[03:34] <linkinxp> VNC authentication succeeded
[03:34] <linkinxp> vncviewer: VNC server closed connection
[03:34] <linkinxp> why?
[03:35] <sparr_> bazhang: ive read them.  they don't go very far, and in some cases are quite out of date
[03:35] <nickrud> sparr_ when you pinned, did you pin by app version? That should pull in the highest numbered dependencies
[03:35] <wil> damn, not working :( ok, well, going to have to restart
[03:35] <bazhang> sparr_: never tried it; dont want a broken machine--sorry not to be of any help in this instance
[03:36] <Messedrocker> in a typical installation of Ubuntu is SSH by default enabled?
[03:36] <nickrud> Messedrocker outgoing, yes, incoming no. You need to install openssh-sever for incoming
[03:37] <genii> sparr_: You might find apt.conf interesting reading. Much is covered there
[03:37] <Messedrocker> openssh-server * ?
[03:37] <genii> sparr_: The manpage for apt.conf, to clarify
[03:37] <nickrud> Messedrocker yes, sorry typo
[03:37] <zero88> How do I get ndiswrapper to load at reboot?
[03:37] <Messedrocker> ok
[03:37] <Shadow420> ds_ you can pick up a router at wal-mart or a computer store for about $20-$40
[03:37] <nickrud> apt-pinning is black magic, anyway
[03:37] <kittykitty> add modprobe ndiswrapper to your thingy :P
[03:38] <zero88> How do I get ndiswrapper to load at reboot?
[03:38] <Pelo> kittykitty,  dumb it down a bit ,  technical terms comfuse ppl
[03:38] <Shadow420> nickrud well I use apt-get alot
[03:38] <nickrud> zero88  add the line   ndiswrapper   to /etc/modules
[03:38] <nickrud> Shadow420 so do I, but apt-pinning is another animal completely
[03:38] <zero88> nickrud, thanks dude
[03:39] <Messedrocker> what would be the command for getting openssh-server?
[03:39] <sparr_> genii: the man page for apt.conf is out of date, not in sync with apt.  this is the case on both debian and ubuntu, and no one updates it because no one cares
[03:39] <genii> sparr_: Aso the manpage of apt_preferences specifically deals with the pinning and the numbers involved there, etc
[03:39] <nickrud> Messedrocker  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:39] <linkinxp> Messedrocker:  go to synaptic manager
[03:39] <Messedrocker> thank you
[03:39] <Shdw|Laptop> Messedrocker, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:39] <sparr_> ditto the preferences man page
[03:40] <nickrud> Messedrocker but synaptic is a great way to find/install apps , all the nice search/install tools in one place
[03:40] <sparr_> the MOST frustrating part of RTFMing is to discover that TFM is wrong
[03:40] <genii> Which remains pretty much the same from dist to dist and so is relevant
[03:40] <sparr_> genii: those man pages are wrong on multiple dists
[03:40] <nickrud> sparr_ that's why it's black magic. pinning doesn't work as described
[03:40] <mcknight> what is MAT service when kernel starts?
[03:41] <Shadow420> nickrud apt-pinning? what the hell is that?
[03:41] <arooni-mobile> how do i fix:  http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  (ubuntu gutsy (i've already installed tor)) ... i CANT install privoxy
[03:41] <sparr_> Shadow420: telling apt how to handle multiple repos with conflicting versions
[03:41] <nickrud> Shadow420 having multiple sources of the same package in different versions and repos, and trying to resolve conflicts
[03:41] <dwidmann> after exiting two of my VTs have failed to return to the login prompt, how can I get them back to a prompt so I can log in with them again? (I have a habit of exiting out of sessions when I'm done)
[03:42] <Shadow420> nickrud sparr_ I am not going to use it
[03:42] <mcknight> \quit
[03:42] <smilevil> i got a okipage 14ex but i don't have drivers for it, how i can make this work
[03:43] <arooni-mobile> how do i fix:  http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  (ubuntu gutsy (i've already installed tor)) ... i CANT install privoxy (here is etc/init.d/privoxy:  http://pastie.caboo.se/180860)
[03:43] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, try installing it using synaptic instead of aptitude , and  purge it first
[03:43] <nickrud> lol, Shadow420 a very wise choice. I used it with debian to get stuff from the experimental repo, but only used tried and true rules from people that wrote apt and understood the stuff
[03:43] <bazhang> smilevil: what is that?
[03:43] <icesword> nickrud, are you using 8.04,how is it
[03:43] <smilevil> bazhang, a printer
[03:43] <nickrud> icesword my lips are sealed on hardy here
[03:43] <Shadow420> has 8.04 been released?
[03:43] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, how do i purge first?
[03:44] <genii> arooni-mobile: April 24th
[03:44] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, in synaptic use the remove completely option , apply then reinstall it
[03:44] <icesword> nickrud, hehe,no worries
[03:44] <Shadow420> I don't trust beta OS's it scares me
[03:45] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, same error:  E: privoxy: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:45] <genii> Sorry, message meant for you Shadow420: April 24th
[03:45] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, google for the source and compile it
[03:45] <sparr_> Shadow420: good, apt pinning is for crazy people.  like me.
[03:45] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, ok ... boo ubuntu
[03:45] <leo_rockw> hello #ubuntu
[03:45] <Shadow420> if I tried anything OS beta I would make sure I have a cpu emulator like qemu vmware or bochs
[03:46] <Shadow420> to test it in and have a decent computer to do so
[03:47] <bazhang> smilevil: is this shared with an xp box?
[03:47] <linkinxp> i love vnc :D
[03:48] <sveakex> is it possible to resize jfs drives?
[03:48] <themoebius> I have an amd64 CPU, but I'm running 32 bit ubuntu because it has better compatibility. can I still benefit from some 64bit applications, though?
[03:48] <linkinxp> nop
[03:48] <Pelo> sveakex, open gparted,  check in info or properties under the file menu, you will have a list of FS and what gparted can doto them
[03:48] <linkinxp> themoebius:  64 its for 64 and 32 its for both
[03:48] <bazhang> themoebius: only with a reinstall
[03:49] <themoebius> so in other words, I need to be running a 64bit kernel to use 64bit applications?
[03:49] <bazhang> aye
[03:49] <Shadow420> themoebius no u can't I suggest u get the 64-bit version you can run 32-bit apps on 64 if I remember correctly just not the other way around
[03:49] <sveakex> Pelo: there is no file in gparted
[03:50] <Pelo> sveakex, in the menu ?
[03:50] <Dh0> Hello, can someone please direct me to where i can get help with setting up Compiz fusion?
[03:50] <Pelo> sveakex, sorry,  the gparted menu in ht emenu
[03:50] <Pelo> the menu
[03:50] <Shadow420> I will be back later
[03:50] <linkinxp> Dh0:  #compiz-fusion
[03:50] <sveakex> aha
[03:51] <themoebius> mmm i might convert to 64bit when 8.04 is released
[03:51] <linkinxp> there ull find everything
[03:51] <sveakex> ouch. i can't shrink my partition.
[03:51] <genii> sveakex: If it's an ntfs one, did you run the chkdsk in Windows then reboot twice, etc etc as recommended?
[03:52] <sveakex> genii: jfs
[03:52] <bazhang> smilevil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161520 from this link it does not look good
[03:52] <sveakex> genii: thanks though
[03:52] <sveakex> Pelo: thanks
[03:52] <Pelo> ;-)
[03:52] <Joeseph> for some reason, fusesmb can't access /media/network and super chmod 777 /media/network gives me an error that the permission is denied: what do I do?
[03:52] <linkinxp> wow Man command its awesome!
[03:53] <leo_rockw> linkinxp: you know what's awesome? man: in konqueror ;-)
[03:53] <genii> sveakex: If from livecd then you need to have jfs support before trying to resize. Same as gparted can't make an ntfs partition without the ntfsprogs or so installed.
[03:53] <linkinxp> leo_rockw:  :P i guess
[03:53] <linkinxp> lmao
[03:53] <leo_rockw> linkinxp: sorry, i had to say it. i'm a kde fanboi
[03:54] <linkinxp> leo_rockw:  thats ok! i like gnome i like foot :D mmmm a nice clean girl foot :D
[03:54] <arooni-mobile> help!  i cant even install privoxy from source!  http://pastie.caboo.se/180863
[03:54] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: why from source?
[03:54] <Joeseph> anyone? why do I not have access to one of my own drives?
[03:55] <Joeseph> or rather, folders
[03:55] <jua1> !via
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <linkinxp> arooni-mobile:  that program is in the synaptic packages
[03:55] <bazhang> which folder Joeseph
[03:55] <arooni-mobile> leo_rockw, cuz it wont work from the repo (see earlier message, or: (  http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  (ubuntu gutsy (i've already installed tor)) ... i CANT install privoxy )
[03:55] <leo_rockw> jua1: i heard via has its own linux page now
[03:55] <arooni-mobile> linkinxp, sure but it doesnt install correctly!
[03:55] <arooni-mobile> it fails kinda hard
[03:56] <linkinxp> arooni-mobile:  o idk ask Pelo
[03:56] <jua1> hello guys how can i install my integrated graphic card VIA p4m900
[03:56] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: there's nothing wrong with the package. i installed it last week.
[03:56] <Pelo> linkinxp, don't send ppl to me,  I jump in when I can help
[03:56] <belk> hello
[03:56] <linkinxp> Pelo:  okey my bad
[03:56] <Joeseph> bazhang: I made a /media/network folder to use with fusesmb so I can view my windows network in xfce, but eveything I type, it tells me that I don't have permission
[03:56] <arooni-mobile> leo_rockw,   http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  .. how do i fix that then
[03:57] <belk> can i have ububtu as server and have xp pc's connected to
[03:57] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: i said there's nothing wrong with the package, not that i knew how to fix it
[03:57] <arooni-mobile> leo_rockw, well that seems like something thats wrong with the package
[03:57] <arooni-mobile> if it cant install correctly
[03:57] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: whatever is wrong, is not wrong with the package, that's what i said. the package did install
[03:58] <Genius314> Is there a way to hook up a composite video output (such as a game or camera) to an ATI All-in-Wonder card and view the video in real-time?
[03:58] <kittykitty> i tried to tell him that leo_rockw
[03:58] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: the configuration failed
[03:58] <kittykitty> he needs to reconfigure it and see if it'll start again
[03:58] <arooni-mobile> leo_rockw, well i cant use it at all... so what good does it do :9
[03:58] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, how do i reconfigure
[03:58] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: exactly what kittykitty says
[03:58] <arooni-mobile> i tried reinstalling/uninstalling etc
[03:58] <kittykitty> try dpkg-reconfigure privoxy ?
[03:58] <belk> can i make a network with ubuntu and windows xp?
[03:59] <leo_rockw> belk: yes you can
[03:59] <kittykitty> you might have something already running on the port that privoxy wants to claim
[03:59] <leo_rockw> !samba | belk
[03:59] <ubotu> belk: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[03:59] <linkinxp> belk:  yes install samba
[03:59] <kittykitty> or you can read the manual and see where the privoxy config file is an do it by hand
[03:59] <jua1> leo_rockw: uhmm thanks
[03:59] <arooni-mobile> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: privoxy is broken or not fully installed
[03:59] <Joeseph> I don't understand why I don't have permission to a folder I just created: why is this?
[03:59] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, i mean
[03:59] <belk> samba?
[04:00] <Joeseph> samba runs it belk: but its through fusesmb I think... I'm not quite sure
[04:00] <kindofabuzz> Joeseph, did you sudo create it?
[04:00] <Joeseph> kindofabuzz: I'm pretty sure I did
[04:00] <linkinxp> that's why
[04:00]  * kittykitty goes to read the manual to arooni... over an already text based chat
[04:00] <belk> i always used windows and now i want to learn linux so have an ubuntu server on my network
[04:01] <kindofabuzz> Joeseph, well that's why.  root owns it
[04:01] <Joeseph> oh
[04:01] <Joeseph> well
[04:01] <Joeseph> I don't know what that means kindofabuzz
[04:01] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, well my point is that i have no idea how to do this............  this wasnt supposed to happen
[04:01] <Joeseph> kindofabuzz: how do I get it back to me?
[04:01] <linkinxp> Joeseph:  root its the super user
[04:02] <leo_rockw> Joeseph: what in windoze is called administrator
[04:02] <linkinxp> Joeseph:  if you created something with Sudo then y cant access it with a normal user
[04:02] <Joeseph> I thought I was admin
[04:02] <leo_rockw> Joeseph: nope
[04:02] <kindofabuzz> Joeseph, sudo chown -R username:group /folder
[04:02] <linkinxp> Joeseph:  in linux we called Root
[04:02] <leo_rockw> Joeseph: that would be a security flaw
[04:02] <Pici> !sudo | Joeseph
[04:02] <ubotu> Joeseph: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[04:02] <leo_rockw> Joeseph: and don't try to be root all the time, that won't be wise
[04:03] <belk> is ubuntu the best linux i can use as server?
[04:03] <jbmigel> i think my drive died. when i boot the livecd and look in dmesg i get error 0x04 {DriveStatusError} INVALID GEOMETRY: 0 physical heads
[04:03] <leo_rockw> !best | belk
[04:03] <ubotu> belk: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[04:03] <kittykitty> arooni-mobile, go edit the file /etc/privoxy/config
[04:04] <kittykitty> and try to '/etc/init.d/privoxy start' to see what errors it gives you