[02:44] <topyli> Meldarion: "ei voi kirjoittaa foo: ei tiedostoa tai hakemistoa lydy" :)
[02:44] <nothingsometing> i hope that's not what is wrong with mine
[02:44] <h08817> don't know what it would have a problem with
[02:44] <no_gatez_fan> might look for an HCL
[02:44] <Meldarion> ok, :p
[02:44] <h08817> no_gatez_fan: what is a HCL?
[02:44] <nothingsometing> because they haven't fixed it still
[02:44] <bimberi> nothingsometing: got a url for that?
[02:44] <no_gatez_fan> hcl harware compatibility list
[02:44] <nothingsometing> ummm
[02:44] <nothingsometing> ask bi
[02:45] <h08817> o
[02:45] <nothingsometing> that's who gave it to me
[02:45] <nimra> Hello, typical Linux (and IRC) Newbie here, I want to get some thing cleared up for me, if you'd like to help please
[02:45] <topyli> nimra: ask away
[02:45] <thoreauputic> nimra: just ask -
[02:45] <Random_Sindrom> nimra:go ahead
[02:45] <h08817> well on another computer i have that has windows and linux on it and i was wondering how to install a driver for my netgear Wg111 usb for internet
[02:45] <Random_Sindrom> hehehe
[02:45] <MartenH> I'm running on a Dell latitude C800 with a touch pad and the cursor freezes for 10-15 seconds now and then for no apparent reason. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
[02:45] <nimra> ok, with Ubuntu, is there CD and DVD burning software?
[02:45] <h08817> i use that to connect to my network then to get online
[02:46] <bimberi> nothingsometing: bi?
[02:46] <mpmc> nimra: yes..
[02:46] <bimberi> nimra: nautilus, gnomebaker, graveman or k3b
[02:46] <no_gatez_fan> sounds like for some reason it is not lieing your chipset if it is chokeing on the kernel
[02:46] <topyli> nimra: sure. the file manager has basic burning features
[02:46] <nimra> can it burn commercial DVD's?
[02:46] <nimra> Video DVDs
[02:46] <thoreauputic> nimra: heh
[02:46] <jonnnn> skalpel, thanks agian mesg worked :)
[02:47] <topyli> nimra: no, you need to install more advanced software
[02:47] <skalpel> jonnn: then i am very happy for you
[02:47] <jonnnn> skalpel, hehe :)
[02:47] <topyli> nimra: and get the copyright issues solved of course
[02:47] <shaun_> srew that i give up
[02:47] <mpmc> what the hell is Lynx?
[02:47] <nimra> ok, I've used KNOPPIX, which is KDE, right? is Ubuntu very different?
[02:48] <jowi> mpmc, a text based browser. like elinks
[02:48] <mpmc> ok lol
[02:48] <no_gatez_fan> lynx is a text based browser
[02:48] <shaun_> i find ubuntus network  config gui conflicts with /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:48] <shaun_> use one or the other in my opinion
[02:48] <anacron> nimra: you can have kde in your ubuntu
[02:48] <thoreauputic> mpmc: high geek points for ysing lynx ;-)
[02:48] <shaun_> (unforutnatley
[02:48] <shaun_> another night
[02:48] <thoreauputic> *using
[02:49] <shaun_> thanks all
[02:49] <shaun_> bye
[02:49] <jowi> shaun_, maybe you are... oh
[02:49] <nothingsometing> yea
[02:49] <nothingsometing> tht's you
[02:49] <eyequeue> lynx (1)             - a general purpose distributed information browser for the World Wide Web
[02:49] <nothingsometing> your bi
[02:49] <nothingsometing> sorry
[02:49] <nothingsometing> i mean
[02:49] <nothingsometing> i don't know if your bi
[02:49] <nothingsometing> really
[02:49] <nothingsometing> but that's just easyer to type
[02:50] <nimra> and I'm scared that linux won't detect my soundcard, my PC is a Medion PC and when I loaded KNOPPIX live, it didn't detect any sound
[02:50] <thoreauputic> eyequeue: heh - general purpose apparently doesn't include pictures ;)
[02:50] <topyli> nimra: that's a bad sign
[02:50] <eyequeue> lynx (+zgv/fbi) works fine for that :)
[02:50] <nothingsometing> bimberi what was that web page you gave me b4
[02:50] <nothingsometing> ibimberi i rebooted
[02:51] <thoreauputic> eyequeue: ah - with those additions :)
[02:51] <topyli> nimra: in knoppix, you can use lspci to see what chip your card has
[02:51] <nimra> and how would I use lspci?
[02:52] <thoreauputic> nimra: you just type it in  a terminal :)
[02:52] <eyequeue> thoreauputic:  i figure, if a box will be used for pictures, i'd have those on it already :)
[02:52] <nothingsometing> how do i make konqueror my default file browser
[02:52] <thoreauputic> eyequeue: you win ! heheh
[02:53] <nothingsometing> yeah i know
[02:53] <eyequeue> thoreauputic:  ;)
[02:53] <nothingsometing> sorry
[02:54] <nimra> and I've heard of a program which can run PC games (win), do you know if I could play games like Sims2 through Linux?
[02:54] <Random_Sindrom> wine?
[02:55] <thoreauputic> nimra: you probably mean cedega - but it costs money
[02:55] <topyli> nimra: lspci is a command, just type it into a terminal :)
[02:56] <bimberi> nothingsometing: Only url I've posted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:56] <nothingsometing> that's it
[02:56] <nothingsometing> bimberi i rebooted and now it's there
[02:56] <nimra> thanks so much, you've been tons of help, if you don't mind I'll ask a few more questions?
[02:56] <nothingsometing> hahaha
[02:57] <nothingsometing> sounds lik i have that problem on that fourm
[02:57] <nothingsometing> and on the fourm they didn't fix that problem
[02:57] <thoreauputic> nimra: that's what we're here for - fire away
[02:57] <mfw> i really like ubunutu, just installed and already running without problems on my notebook
[02:57] <nimra> is there some kind of replacement for VisualBasic?
[02:58] <thoreauputic> mfw: welcome to freedom ;)
[02:58] <nothingsometing> that's not the one
[02:58] <bimberi> nothingsometing: erm, that wasn't anything to do with your issue
[02:58] <thoreauputic> nimra: erm - not really but there are lots of good languages
[02:58] <sexcopter8000m> are there facilities equivalent to defrag and scanning for errors in windows?
[02:58] <nothingsometing> bimberi it was the web page you found about the mounting drives
[02:58] <bimberi> nothingsometing: unless you were previously connected as "gepp"
[02:58] <andy_> not needed in ubuntu :d
[02:58] <mfw> Yeah, Im happy that I found Ubunut, thats just what I always wanted
[02:58] <bimberi> *geppy
[02:58] <andy_> linux doesnt fragment
[02:58] <thoreauputic> nimra: VB is kinda MS restricted
[02:59] <sexcopter8000m> oh, cool
[02:59] <andy_> you bet ;)
[02:59] <sexcopter8000m> begs the question, why does it fragment in windows?
[02:59] <nothingsometing> restarting the computer then 10 mins later it would dissapeer from che "computer" folder
[02:59] <thoreauputic> sexcopter8000m: bad design
[02:59] <sexcopter8000m> besides, isn't it more dependent on the filesystem rather than the os?
[02:59] <andy_> because they use a totally other way of filesystem management
[03:00] <topyli> sexcopter8000m: ext2 fragments too, but it's not a problem
[03:00] <thoreauputic> sexcopter8000m: yes - linux filesystems are better
[03:00] <nimra> and if I have ubuntu installed aswell as windows, how does it boot?
[03:00] <sexcopter8000m> well i have a vfat partition, what about that?
[03:00] <mfw> Any ideas what software you should have installed on ubunut anyway? i updated all my things with synaptic from the universe..
[03:00] <andy_> by booting you get the choice
[03:00] <andy_> if you installed win first that is
[03:00] <sexcopter8000m> i guess i could defrag in windows if need be...
[03:00] <thoreauputic> nimra: with grub in the MBR you have dual boot
[03:00] <topyli> nimra: ubuntu installs a boot loader which gives you a choise at boot time
[03:00] <sJaM> but you can also use the ntldr to dualboot
[03:01] <nothingsometing> bimberi is there any way i can get conqueror to be my default file browser
[03:01] <FLD> hey where was ati help?
[03:01] <topyli> sexcopter8000m: you should defrag that from windows
[03:01] <FLD> need to get my ati work
[03:01] <bimberi> nothingsometing: sorry - can't help with that one
[03:01] <nimra> and can i make it so it just shows for like a few seconds and if I dont do anything it boots to windows?
[03:01] <mfw> @nothingsometing : no you need the qt libraries and thats a bad idea
[03:01] <andy_> yes
[03:01] <thoreauputic> you can
[03:01] <sexcopter8000m> that reminds me of another thing... i'm gonna need to start anew with windows - it's a mess. can anyone confirm/quash my gut feeling that installing windows from a clean partition will screw up ubuntu?
[03:02] <andy_> you must edit (gedit) the file:
[03:02] <andy_> eum
[03:02] <andy_> /boot/grub/menu.lst i believe
[03:02] <thoreauputic> sexcopter8000m: windows will rewrite the MBR - fixable but not trivial
[03:02] <andy_> standart it will boot linux after 5 secs but u can change the order
[03:02] <Earered> sexcopter8000m, it depends, windows will erase the MBR
[03:02] <sexcopter8000m> and there's no option to stop it doing that?
[03:03] <sJaM> no sexcopter8000m
[03:03] <FLD> damn i dont find that
[03:03] <thoreauputic> sexcopter8000m: windows is braindead
[03:03] <sexcopter8000m> arse. ok, are there any howto's on this?
[03:03] <sJaM> but you can boot linux from windows
[03:03] <sexcopter8000m> i guess it comes up quite a lot
[03:03] <FLD> where is that ati radeon + ubuntu help?
[03:03] <topyli> sexcopter8000m: in short: boot from a live cd, chroot to your linux root, run grub-install
[03:04] <Burgundavia> sexcopter8000m, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:04] <brosio> ehy the version of kopete in warty is altredy patched ?
[03:04] <brosio> i read an advisor for kopete
[03:04] <sexcopter8000m> FLD https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[03:04] <brosio> http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20050721-1.txt
[03:04] <chorton> Is there any program yall would reccomend for video editing?
[03:04] <Riddell> brosio: that advisory doesn't affect kubuntu because we use an external libgadu
[03:04] <sJaM> linux has a shortage there chorton
[03:05] <topyli> chorton: kino perhaps
[03:05] <topyli> chorton: cinelerra for pro stuff
[03:05] <jea> yes kino is great programm
[03:05] <chorton> Yeah, I'm just looking for the basics.
[03:06] <chorton> Lemme see.
[03:06] <sexcopter8000m> excellent, thanks guys
[03:06] <topyli> how do you scroll up in irssi?
[03:06] <apokryphos> topyli: page-up
[03:06] <Earered> sexcopter, another solution, without too much command line, is to use a boot loader on its own partition (like GAG: http://gag.sourceforge.net/) and to have GRUB on the main linux partition. That way, windows can rewrite as much as he wants the MBR, you just need to insert the GAG CD or floppy for restoration and you are done
[03:06] <topyli> apokryphos: of course. damn :)
[03:06] <nothingsometing> mfw what are you talking about???
[03:06] <sJaM> smart boot manager
[03:06] <nimra> is everything alright with ubuntu and NTFS partitions?
[03:07] <brosio> Riddell, sure ?
[03:07] <brosio> i see that i have kopete 0.10
[03:07] <thoreauputic> nimra: ntfs is read-only from linux
[03:07] <andy_> you can't mount ntfs partitions writable
[03:07] <thoreauputic> nimra: blame MS for not releasing specs
[03:07] <jea> is there someone who know the streaming with vlc
[03:07] <andy_> fat partitions can
[03:07] <reyn> libyaml-ruby1.8: Depends: libiconv-ruby1.8 but it is not going to be installed ... eh ?
[03:07] <jea> i nedd help about streaming
[03:08] <mfw> :nothingsometing i think you need the qt libraries to install konqueror
[03:08] <andy_> it's your sources.list that is kinda not ok
[03:08] <andy_> in /etc/apt
[03:08] <andy_> start with apt-get update
[03:08] <reyn> I'm using apt-proxy ... might be that
[03:08] <jea> no one knows vlc
[03:08] <ZibiKebir> what type of device is a wireless usb adapter classified as?
[03:08] <topyli> mfw: i think konqueror needs most of kde actually
[03:09] <jea> wlan on wireless adapter
[03:09] <ZibiKebir> yh
[03:09] <nothingsometing> .............now what was that mfw................. i need the what, and your sure that will make konqueror my default file browser
[03:09] <Riddell> brosio: ldd /usr/bin/kopete | grep gadu
[03:09] <jea> this is the ype of device
[03:09] <brosio> Ubuntu has released updated packages to address multiple security vulnerabilities identified in KDE. These flaws are due to input validation and integer overflow errors in "lib/events.c" and "lib/libgadu.c", which could be exploited by attackers to crash a vulnerable application or compromise a vulnerable system. For additional information, see : FrSIRT/ADV-2005-1161
[03:09] <mfw> right, so I wouldnt install it, thats crappy
[03:09] <nimra> so would the best way to install ubuntu is to divide my 250GB HDD in half and reinstall Windows on one part and Ubuntu on the other (FAT32?)?
[03:09] <mfw> use firefox...!
[03:10] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: making konq default in gnome is kind of - pushing s**t uphill IMO
[03:10] <holycow> nimra, personally i recommend separate hd's, on removable trays
[03:10] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: if you prefer konq you are better off with KDE
[03:10] <holycow> safest way to work i think
[03:10] <ZibiKebir> i used lsusb and it found it on bus 002 device 004
[03:10] <nothingsometing> DAMNIT but i lie it so much
[03:10] <brosio> Riddell, ok
[03:10] <brosio> thx
[03:10] <ZibiKebir> whats the command to mount that
[03:11] <nothingsometing> i have kde
[03:11] <mfw> I can't get sound running in VLC! Somebody with ideas?
[03:11] <topyli> nimra: divide your windows space into a small ntfs (system) and big fat32 (data) partitions, so linux and win can share the data
[03:11] <nothingsometing> LMAO
[03:11] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: then install kubuntu-desktop and use KDE :)
[03:11] <mfw> I wouldnt
[03:11] <jea> what is your probleme with vlc
[03:11] <nothingsometing> i just happn to like ubuntu more but just not it's file browser
[03:11] <mfw> No sound
[03:11] <poningru> mfw: whats the prob?
[03:11] <poningru> hmm
[03:11] <jea> do you see your audio seting
[03:11] <nothingsometing> it pisses me off actually
[03:11] <poningru> nothingsometing: what dont you like in it?
[03:11] <jea> essd or alsa
[03:11] <paines> hi
[03:12] <mfw> I installed the whole package, with alsa and so, but i get no sound
[03:12] <poningru> nothingsometing: here try this
[03:12] <nimra> thanks, and are there any linux programs for the iPod?
[03:12] <topyli> nothingsometing: make it work so you will like it :)
[03:12] <ethics> nothingsometing, try xfe ??
[03:12] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: do "apt-cache search file-browser" perhaps - I use rox here for example
[03:12] <nothingsometing> every time i click somethng to opens another window and thre is no back button like i'm usto
[03:12] <paines> i am experiencing problems with unrar and arj on ubuntu 64 bit version. anyone can confirm that ? both unpackers are not working at all
[03:12] <jea> hwhen you prob the sound what is the results
[03:12] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: ah - you can fix that
[03:12] <nothingsometing> ok show me the way
[03:12] <nothingsometing> lol
[03:13] <mfw> sounds working perfectly but not in LVC
[03:13] <topyli> nothingsometing: you can set it up to be like an old fashioned explorer-like file browser
[03:13] <mfw> VLC
[03:13] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing:  in prefs -behaviour - "open in browser windows"
[03:13] <topyli> nothingsometing: or for individual folders, right click and choose "browse"
[03:14] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: that will give you the traditional view with back arrows etc
[03:14] <nothingsometing> ooh hell yeah
[03:14] <nothingsometing> ok
[03:15] <nothingsometing> you gota admit the default thing they give you is anoying
[03:15] <topyli> nothingsometing: actually, i just have a shortcut icon for a traditional browser and use spatial for the desktop
[03:15] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: there was a holy war about it ;)
[03:15] <nothingsometing> so how did they loose that war ubuntu soposto be user friendly
[03:15] <mfw> sounds not working, really crappy.... I works perfect with Totem and Mplayer..
[03:16] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: not so much ubuntu - it was a gnome thing
[03:16] <nothingsometing> aaag
[03:16] <nothingsometing> i see
[03:16] <nothingsometing> i am imagneing blood shead
[03:16] <nothingsometing> lol
[03:16] <topyli> nothingsometing: actually, ubuntu broke the user-friendly gnome default spatial :)
[03:16] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: much angry bandidth was wasted over it ;)
[03:16] <thoreauputic> *bandwith
[03:16] <nothingsometing> lol
[03:17] <mfw> Somebody here with ideas?
[03:17] <thoreauputic> mfw: no, no one here ever has any ideas
[03:17] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[03:17] <mfw> i see
[03:17] <mfw> ;-)
[03:18] <jonnnn> skalpel, heh me again :)
[03:18] <quitte> in which package is /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.la?
[03:18] <mfw> Maybe somebody had the same probs?
[03:19] <jonnnn> skalpel, howto change the prefered mail clinet, for example if click on a file then select "send to.. " its gives me evolution by default
[03:19] <thoreauputic> mfw: tip: when you have sound problems, suspect esd (enlightened sound daemon - so-called)
[03:19] <CellarDoor> hi
[03:19] <nothingsometing> can i make them always view as a" list " somewhere inthose options
[03:20] <CellarDoor> I'm trying to help someone with an iburst wireless usb modem with ubuntu, can anyone help us get this working ?
[03:20] <thoreauputic> you can - disable the icon view
[03:20] <andy_> anybody with a ibm thinkpad 600 on linux, with working sound?
[03:21] <nothingsometing> ok i have one more problem
[03:21] <nothingsometing> ....
[03:21] <nothingsometing> um
[03:21] <CellarDoor> I've never used a usb modem, let alone an iburst wireless, apparently ubuntu isn't using it - can anyone help ?
[03:22] <andy_> noooo :d
[03:22] <thoreauputic> topyli: traitor! ;-)
[03:22] <topyli> it's an interesting pastime :)
[03:22] <nothingsometing> i need to update my repositories so i can get mplayer from apt-get and someone was telling me how to do that earlyer and i couldn't
[03:22] <CellarDoor> evil
[03:22] <andy_> windows is a game
[03:22] <nothingsometing> can someone tell me how to do that again
[03:22] <topyli> putty to the rescue =)
[03:22] <CellarDoor> so... no one can help ?
[03:22] <poningru> !repositories
[03:22] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos
[03:22] <andy_> at ubuntuguide.org u find goor repositories
[03:23] <andy_> good
[03:23] <poningru> nothingsometing: take a read
[03:23] <Burgundavia> Andares, pleae don't recommend the ubuntuguide
[03:23] <nothingsometing> noooo
[03:23] <nothingsometing> i know how to add reposotories
[03:23] <Burgundavia> Andares, sorry, wrong person
[03:23] <poningru> ?
[03:23] <andy_> why not? works for me
[03:23] <Burgundavia> !ubuntuguide
[03:23] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[03:23] <topyli> thoreauputic: full screen putty, screen on uni's Sun box and its ok
[03:23] <nothingsometing> this person was talking about useing forbidden ones
[03:23] <nothingsometing> or
[03:23] <nothingsometing> special ones
[03:23] <andy_> whatever
[03:24] <deFrysk> so ubuntuguide is for specialist who do not need explanation ?
[03:24] <ZibiKebir> does anybody know what the exact comman is mount a wireless usb adapter founf on Bus 002 Device 001
[03:24] <poningru> ubotu: tell nothingsomething about !repositories
[03:24] <poningru> sigh
[03:24] <andy_> yeah allright but just the repositories dude
[03:24] <poningru> ubotu: tell nothingsomething about !repo
[03:24] <poningru> ubotu: tell nothingsomething about !repos
[03:24] <Burgundavia> deFrysk, the ubuntuguide is for those who already know what theya re doing
[03:24] <poningru> gaaah
[03:24] <nothingsometing> i know about them
[03:24] <nothingsometing> sortof
[03:24] <nothingsometing> i've added them
[03:24] <Burgundavia> andy_, the wiki has a perfectly sane way of getting the repos
[03:24] <nothingsometing> i've uses them
[03:25] <andy_> its just some text that you copy and paste into the file
[03:25] <nothingsometing> but in need to get mplayer
[03:25] <poningru> nothingsometing: what have you added?
[03:25] <poningru> becasue mplayer is in there iirc
[03:25] <skalpel> sup jonnnn
[03:25] <nothingsometing> i need the codecs and stuff for mplayer
[03:25] <skalpel> =)
[03:25] <jonnnn> skalpel, busy? ;)
[03:26] <skalpel> jonnnn: not really, just chatting on efnet and having some coffee. what is up?
[03:26] <jonnnn> skalpel, howto change the prefered mail clinet, for example if click on a file then select "send to.. " its gives me evolution by default
[03:26] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: in hoary extras - I would comment them out after you get the codecs, personally
[03:26] <nothingsometing> i added them and then i took them away
[03:26] <thoreauputic> !multimedia
[03:26] <ubotu> I guess multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[03:26] <topyli> skalpel: sounds pretty busy to me :)
[03:26] <skalpel> jonnnn: go to system > preferences > preferred applications
[03:26] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: wise move :)
[03:26] <skalpel> jonnnn: and you will be able to set your preferred mail client
[03:27] <nothingsometing> ok getting mplayer really isnt my problem
[03:27] <skalpel> topyli: im a busybee haha
[03:27] <jonnnn> skalpel, i do change in it but i duno still not working
[03:27] <jonnnn> do i have to restart X ;) ?
[03:27] <jonnnn> damn my keyboard sucks
[03:27] <skalpel> i do not think so
[03:27] <topyli> jonnnn: you shouldn't have to
[03:27] <skalpel> you are trying to do this from irc, right?
[03:27] <nothingsometing> when i play video with tothellm it jumps and skips and slows down
[03:28] <nothingsometing> just fucks up basicly
[03:28] <nothingsometing> and i recall someone telling me that totem was crap
[03:28] <skalpel> jonnnn: you could try logging out and then back in though, and see if that changes anything. no harm in that, if you dont mind hopping off irc =)
[03:28] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: try totem-xine
[03:28] <nothingsometing> what's the diffrance
[03:28] <nothingsometing> i mean
[03:28] <nothingsometing> really
[03:28] <Burgundavia> nothingsometing, different backend
[03:28] <nothingsometing> oog
[03:28] <jonnnn> skalpel, only one things i will miss you :)
[03:28] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: the xine backend for totem works better atm
[03:29] <Burgundavia> the issue is not totem, it is the gstreamer backend for movies
[03:29] <jonnnn> brb
[03:29] <thoreauputic> right
[03:29] <nothingsometing> so do i need to uninstall totem or can i just install the other one over it or something
[03:29] <Burgundavia> the next release of gstreamer should solve most of the issues (but it won't make breezy)
[03:29] <skalpel> jonnnn: well i will miss you too bro but you can always come back and say hello =)
[03:29] <Burgundavia> nothingsometing, just install totem-xine
[03:29] <thoreauputic> just install it nothingsometing - apt will look after you
[03:30] <nothingsometing> i'll use syap
[03:30] <nothingsometing> synap
[03:30] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: don't be alarmed if it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop - that's just a metapackage
[03:30] <Burgundavia> thoreauputic, it doesn't do that in hoary
[03:30] <alex__> anyone have problem with 2.6.11 ?
[03:30] <nothingsometing> :O
[03:30] <nothingsometing> just
[03:30] <alex__> mee crash many time
[03:30] <thoreauputic> Burgundavia: aha! thanks I didn't know that
[03:31] <Burgundavia> thoreauputic, ubuntu-desktop depends on totem which depends on either -xine or -gstreamer
[03:31] <thoreauputic> alex__: 2.6.11 has major issues - use 2.6.10
[03:31] <thoreauputic> Burgundavia: cool :)
[03:31] <nothingsometing> damn i love synaptic
[03:33] <nothingsometing> is it soposto look the EXACT same
[03:33] <nothingsometing> or is it just me
[03:33] <poningru> nothingsometing: yes
[03:33] <nothingsometing> ?
[03:34] <nothingsometing> ooh
[03:34] <nothingsometing> ....then i installed it
[03:34] <nothingsometing> lol
[03:34] <poningru> nothingsometing: it will run better though
[03:34] <nothingsometing> really
[03:34] <nothingsometing> i'll see
[03:34] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: totem is just the pretty face - -xine is the engine :)
[03:34] <nothingsometing> muahaw haw haw
[03:34] <poningru> kinda like take a ford escape and take its body and put it into a corolla or civic
[03:34] <nothingsometing> oooh
[03:34] <nothingsometing> ok
[03:35] <poningru> put it on*
[03:35] <CellarDoor> no wireless iburst experts here ?
[03:37] <david> hello!
[03:37] <david> i have a pinnacle pctv video card with the saa7134 chip on it
[03:37] <david> i have put the modules but i can't see the tv, can anybody help me??
[03:38] <xliu> how to set the font size of gnome apps in kde?
[03:42] <gpd> If I could stop realplayer from being sooo sloow in firefox i would wake up...
[03:42] <duke> hi to all
[03:42] <thoreauputic> hi duke :)
[03:43] <thoreauputic> gpd: sometimes it helps to delete the *sw* plugins for realplayer (don't know why)
[03:43] <duke> a little question: Is it possible to install ubuntu without gnome-desktop. But with all other sysapps allready configured
[03:44] <thoreauputic> duke: kind of - you can do a "server" install then use apt to get other bits
[03:44] <Burgundavia> duke, you can use the server install
[03:44] <gpd> thoreauputic: you mean shockwave?
[03:44] <str> what is the latest kernel version in ubuntu?
[03:44] <Burgundavia> str, .10 in Hoary (stable)
[03:45] <duke> i tried that with the server install, but then u have to install an configure cups and all the other stuff
[03:45] <Burgundavia> str, .12 in Breezy (developmetn)
[03:45] <str> thanks
[03:45] <str> :)
[03:45] <gpd> str: .11 is also available in hoary if you look
[03:45] <thoreauputic> gpd: real has a couple of plugins with sw in them ( I guess they are supposed to do shockwave but I've never seen it work)
[03:45] <str> how to have that .11?
[03:45] <gpd> str: just search in synaptic
[03:46] <str> i just updated mine it is only .10
[03:46] <str> in synaptic
[03:46] <Burgundavia> str, .11 is available in hoary, but it is not supported
[03:46] <str> alright
[03:46] <thoreauputic> str: .11 is *not* recommended
[03:46] <duke> does not exist an install-flag for which debs get installed?
[03:47] <str> thanks people, ur very helpful and accomodating
[03:47] <str> cheers!
[03:48] <gpd> thoreauputic: removed those sw plugins, seems better, thanks!
[03:48] <thoreauputic> gpd: i got that tip from the BBC site , of all places ;)
[03:49] <MartenH> neat, my minolta worked right away on ubu :)
[03:49] <moparfan90> i have 2 computers running ubuntu. i want to have them share files how do i do this?
[03:49] <gpd> still crashes when you close the window (I'm using the bbc player ;)
[03:50] <thoreauputic> moparfan90: there are several ways - I use NFS but you can use samba too
[03:50] <mpmc> hi Bob2. :)
[03:50] <Renski> how does apt-get work? how would I download, and compile gcc for instance?
[03:50] <bob2> hi
[03:50] <saku_0> yop
[03:50] <thoreauputic> moparfan90: you can also do it with ssh/scp
[03:51] <Burgundavia> Renski, I assume you are coming from gentoo. apt-get downloads the binary package and installs it
[03:51] <thoreauputic> Renski: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:51] <duke>   apt-get install gcc
[03:51] <zerboxx> I'm having a problem syncing my palm with ubuntu.  I can set it up, but it seems that when I restart my computer I havee to re-setup my palm.  Any ideas on why this is?
[03:51] <thoreauputic> duke: no, build-essential
[03:51] <duke> ok ..
[03:51] <Burgundavia> duke, build-essential is gcc plus more useful things
[03:51] <thoreauputic> duke: b-e has extra bits you need for compiling
[03:51] <Renski> thanks Burgundavia
[03:52] <Renski> ...why did I think ubuntu was source based?
[03:52] <Burgundavia> Renski, no idea
[03:52] <Burgundavia> Renski, because it was cool and new?
[03:52] <Renski> a sourced based distro without gcc....
[03:52] <Renski> lol
[03:52] <thoreauputic> duke: please, ask before starting a dcc chat or /msg ing
[03:53] <thoreauputic> duke: what did you want to ask?
[03:53] <moparfan90> i have file sharing on one of them but the other computer is not reading the files. what do i do?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> duke: if about build-essential, try ' apt-cache show build-essential "
[03:54] <DekaPink> G'morning, all~ :)
[03:54] <duke> sorry, I want to use fluxbox on my laptop, and so i dont need to install the gnome-desktop. But I need the other confs, like X, Cups ... , What should I do?
[03:54] <Renski> that works perfectly, can anyone point in the direction of a url with more infomation about apt-get?
[03:54] <Renski> besides man apt-get
[03:54] <TenPlus1> Hi folks...
[03:54] <duke> hi tenPlus
[03:54] <bob2> duke: install a default system
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Renski: sudo apt-get install apt-howto :)
[03:54] <CellarDoor> aww come on guys, nooobody knows about iburst modems with ubuntu ??
[03:54] <TenPlus1> hi duke
[03:54] <bob2> duke: get rid of the bits yo udon't want
[03:54] <bob2> duke: enjoy!
[03:55] <bob2> CellarDoor: if someone knew, they would answer
[03:55] <duke> bob2: sorry I dont understand
[03:55] <CellarDoor> yeah I guess so
[03:55] <bob2> CellarDoor: try asking on the ubuntu-user list, or on the slug list
[03:55] <TenPlus1> Q.) is there a way to install Ubuntu on an already created fat32 partition ?
[03:55] <bob2> TenPlus1: no
[03:55] <bob2> ubuntu won't usefully run on fat32
[03:55] <tommorris> Hey all.
[03:56] <Burgundavia> Renski, http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.en.html
[03:56] <Renski> ty
[03:56] <thoreauputic> duke: he's suggesting a standard install, then uninstall the bits you don't need
[03:56] <Burgundavia> Renski, http://www.dpkg.org/
[03:56] <TenPlus1> bummer...
[03:56] <tommorris> Can someone please come and seed kubuntu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso.torrent
[03:56] <moparfan90> thoreauputic, i have both computer with file sharing on. and it is not seeing the files. whhat do i do?
[03:56] <djp> !dma
[03:56] <duke> u mean the packet ubuntu-desktop
[03:56] <thoreauputic> moparfan90: you need to install samba methinks
[03:56] <bob2> duke: I mean, do a default install, then remove whatever it is you don't want
[03:56] <moparfan90> i have samba installed
[03:56] <Kamzi> hi, i've just got the internet to wokr with linux using an external 56k modem and the speed seems a lot slower than in windows , any ideas ??
[03:57] <thoreauputic> moparfan90: at least on one machine as server...
[03:57] <Scouse> Hi all
[03:57] <thoreauputic> moparfan90: ah, sorry
[03:57] <duke> bob2, u mean I should deinstall the deb ubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <bob2> duke: if you really think you don't want it
[03:58] <Riddell> tommorris: what's up with it?
[03:58] <duke> and how would u do that?
[03:58] <tommorris> stuck at 72.1%, Riddell.
[03:58] <bob2> duke: using the package manager...
[03:58] <duke> ok
[03:58] <tommorris> I'm chucking it 300kbps, but I haven't got the whole file.
[03:58] <duke> i will do so . bob
[03:58] <duke> thx and greetings from Switzerland
[03:59] <Manny_> hi
[03:59] <Manny_> any chance that ubuntu hoary will be upgraded to GTK 2.6.8. It has a nice GTK+ file chooser fix
[03:59] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[03:59] <mpmc> Where are we all from aye?
[04:00] <mpmc> i'm from the UK :P
[04:00] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i install java so i can view java files on the web?
[04:00] <thor|pizza> !java
[04:00] <ubotu> java is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[04:00] <TenPlus1> Does Ubuntu 5.04 have problems with wireless cards and ndiswrapper ??
[04:00] <CellarDoor> argh
[04:01] <brosio> anyone that have ubuntu on amd64 can said me which version is on repository ?
[04:01] <Goshawk> TenPlus1, not for me
[04:01] <TenPlus1> Goshawk: what card u got ?
[04:01] <TenPlus1> <-- Asus WL-138g (marvell chipset)
[04:01] <Goshawk> TenPlus1, broadcom
[04:01] <Goshawk> in an asus a6770klh
[04:02] <Goshawk> TenPlus1, with 64 bit drivers
[04:02] <mpmc> Asus are crappy
[04:02] <TenPlus1> Goshawk: don't suppose you have a guide of how you installed it and set-it-up ??
[04:02] <Seveas> TenPlus1, dud you get that to work?!?
[04:02] <Goshawk> TenPlus1, yep
[04:02] <TenPlus1> kewl, you got a link :)
[04:02] <Goshawk> TenPlus1, look at the ubuntuforums
[04:02] <Goshawk> looking for ndiswrapper how to
[04:02] <Discipulus> whatis firefox
[04:02] <Discipulus> ubotu, tell me what firefox is
[04:03] <Seveas> Discipulus, the default web browser in gnome
[04:03] <TenPlus1> that's what I used... installed my .info driver ok and setup the card stuff and it stalled when connecting to my laptop
[04:03] <mpmc> we had an asus.. we looked at the board after a month.. and it had warped!
[04:03] <Goshawk> mpmc, what do you have?
[04:03] <topyli> Seveas: epiphany is gnome default :)
[04:03] <mpmc> Giga-byte.
[04:03] <mpmc> not the best I know
[04:04] <mpmc> but they are pretty neat..
[04:04] <chiisai> Err, what can actually happen if I add breezer to my repositories? snd-azx isn't included, so I have to use newer alsa packages only available for breezer, so..
[04:04] <thor|pizza> ubotu died?
[04:04] <ubotu> thor|pizza: I give up, what is it?
[04:04] <mpmc> !info help
[04:04] <thor|pizza> hmm then why didn't the bot answer my /msg ? :/
[04:05] <topyli> chiisai: your system might break completely or similar little things
[04:05] <kahuna_> I'm getting a Not Authenticated message in synaptic after upgrading to Hoary From Warty. I assume that I don't have the correct keys. Where and how can I get them
[04:05] <thor|pizza> ah, nick change - got it
[04:05] <chiisai> Yeah, I figured... well, *might*?
[04:05] <gypsymauro> hello
[04:05] <topyli> chiisai: or it might work just fine today and break tomorrow
[04:05] <chiisai> I need to get my sound working somehow, so it seems like it's the only choice
[04:05] <chiisai> :\
[04:06] <ToRTuReD_X> anyone got any ideas on installing limewire?
[04:06] <kahuna_> Yup.
[04:06] <gypsymauro> I'm tryin to connect remotely to an ubuntu gdm via xdmcp but when I login i get this error: Error activating XKB configuration. whata about this?
[04:06] <|rockinnerd|> how do i get the kernel source? apt-get install kernel-source gives me a 2.4.x kernel, i want the 2.6.x
[04:06] <kahuna_> Download the latest JRE, install it
[04:06] <thoreauputic> umm.. what is HostingGeek up to??
[04:06] <enyc_> gypu: keyboard configuration.. wouldnt worry about it too much unelss you end up wiht a silly keybaord layout
[04:06] <kahuna_> Then download the tarball of Limewire into /opt
[04:06] <mpmc> Whats knoppix?
[04:06] <ToRTuReD_X> ok
[04:06] <|rockinnerd|> !knoppix
[04:06] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, |rockinnerd|
[04:06] <ToRTuReD_X> thanks
[04:06] <kahuna_> Then symlink runlime.sh (or whatever they call it) to /usr/bin/limewire
[04:06] <tommorris> bootable linux distro
[04:07] <topyli> chiisai: if you're looking for a specific package, you can get the breezy source package and backport it
[04:07] <ToRTuReD_X> i was told to use the JDK
[04:07] <ToRTuReD_X> -_-
[04:07] <kahuna_> you don't need the JDK
[04:07] <kahuna_> unless you want to develop Java of course :)
[04:07] <skalpel> does anyone know of a way to move the system tray in gnome?
[04:07] <chiisai> topyli, alsa-driver-1.0.9b
[04:07] <teferi> woo, linux-image-2.6.12-5 and STILL no linux-restricted-modules
[04:07] <|rockinnerd|> wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:07] <gypsymauro> enyc_: what do u mean
[04:07] <chiisai> topyli, Where can I get those?
[04:07] <ToRTuReD_X> RPM?
[04:07] <teferi> skalpel: it's just another applet, right-click on the handle, unlock it, and then just drag it around
[04:07] <kahuna_> use the bin ToRTuReD_X.
[04:07] <skalpel> thanks
[04:07] <enyc_> gyps: I mean, using DirectFB interface instead of X11 interfacer
[04:08] <ToRTuReD_X> kahuna_,  both are bins
[04:08] <kahuna_> Just follow the instructions on ubuntugiude.com
[04:08] <ToRTuReD_X> now i have to do all this crap again
[04:08] <kahuna_> Yes, but the self-installing executable ends in .bin
[04:08] <topyli> chiisai: add breezy or debian unstable sources (deb-src) to sources.list
[04:08] <skalpel> gnome is awesome
[04:08] <topyli> chiisai: then use apt to build
[04:08] <enyc_> oops weong channel people ;p sorry
[04:08] <skalpel> ubuntu is awesome
[04:08] <skalpel> in, also, i love you all this much <3
[04:08] <james> Hi all, i remembder install a architecture specific kernel before.... Is there any info ouyt there on doing this, do i need to on hoary?
[04:08] <kahuna_> the Redhat installer ends in .rpm of course, but that's not the one you want
[04:09] <topyli> chiisai: consult the apt-howto
[04:09] <nothingsometing> this might be the wrong thing to ask but....is there an easy to get a web cam hooked up via usb???
[04:09] <ToRTuReD_X> ok
[04:09] <|rockinnerd|> possibly
[04:09] <|rockinnerd|> possibly no
[04:09] <|rockinnerd|> t
[04:09] <ToRTuReD_X> smoke time while i wait
[04:09] <|rockinnerd|> it all depends on the webcam,
[04:09] <nothingsometing> meaning
[04:09] <Xyc0> I need help setting up my soundcard.  It is detected, but when I try test sounds I hear nothing.  everything in alsamixer is unmuted and full volume.
[04:09] <|rockinnerd|> and whether it's supported lin linux
[04:09] <chiisai> topyli, okay, thanks .)
[04:09] <|rockinnerd|> Xyc0, is PCM turned up?
[04:10] <nothingsometing> ok.....
[04:10] <Xyc0> |rockinnerd|: PCM?
[04:10] <mpmc> LOL
[04:10] <nothingsometing> it's a lodgtech quickcam
[04:10] <kahuna_> you have the speakers plugged in to the out jack right? :)
[04:10] <topyli> chiisai: something like 'apt-get build-depend alsa ; apt-get build alsa"
[04:10] <|rockinnerd|> PCM = sounds that your computer makes, its an entry in alsacfg
[04:10] <Xyc0> it is a laptop
[04:10] <|rockinnerd|> s/alsaconfig/alsamixer
[04:11] <nothingsometing> so what if it is soupported in lunix
[04:11] <kahuna_> I see
[04:11] <nothingsometing> let's say it is
[04:11] <skalpel> does anyone know the name of the thunderbird executable?
[04:11] <kahuna_> Xyc0: do you have a function key for speaker volume? Check that first
[04:11] <mpmc> !thunderbird
[04:11] <ubotu> I don't know, mpmc
[04:11] <mpmc> !info linux
[04:11] <mpmc> !linux
[04:11] <ubotu> somebody said linux was the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[04:11] <nothingsometing> do i neeed to get the drivers in for lunix ...right , then what do i do with them
[04:11] <Xyc0> kahuna_: I played around with them to make sure I didn't accidently mute them, no luck
[04:12] <apokryphos> mozilla-thunderbird, perhaps>?
[04:12] <skalpel> thank you
[04:12] <nothingsometing> will ubuntu be nice like  windows and ask for the drivers
[04:12] <nothingsometing> ???
[04:12] <mpmc> I's Linux!
[04:12] <skalpel> no, that is not it
[04:12] <apokryphos> nothingsometing: no. It detects automatically ;-)
[04:12] <kahuna_> linux is not like windows.
[04:12] <kahuna_> and that's a good thing :)
[04:12] <nothingsometing> lol
[04:12] <nothingsometing> true
[04:12] <mpmc> I meant the spelling..
[04:12] <nothingsometing> but it would be nice if it asked for the drivers or something
[04:13] <turkuaz> has anyone tested vista b1..
[04:13] <Xyc0> |rockinnerd|: What entry for PCM do I look for in alsa.conf?
[04:13] <kahuna_> why? Hotplud automatically detects everything.
[04:13] <apokryphos> nothingsometing: why? Waste of time
[04:13] <Xyc0> Windows doesn't ask for driver...
[04:13] <TenPlus1> is it easy enough to re-partition a windows drive and have a dual-boot installation of Ubuntu ?
[04:13] <kahuna_> Anything not detected you'll load a module for in /etc/modules
[04:13] <nothingsometing> so what will haoppen if it's lunix capable?
[04:14] <nothingsometing> do i need to mount he webcam
[04:14] <nothingsometing> the*
[04:14] <abisen> what source should i add on my machine so that i can install sun-jdk-1.5 etc..
[04:14] <Efwis> ok, I have a intersting issue with Kubuntu. installed on seperate HDD from Windows XP, using Grub windows has to be booted 3 or 4 times just to get started. any ideas?
[04:14] <kahuna_> then it's not linux capable... that's it. You can ask the manufacturer to release specs, or buy new hardware
[04:14] <abisen> i mean to say apt with ubuntu hoary
[04:14] <kahuna_> abisen: you have to download it by hand
[04:15] <Xyc0> |rockinnerd|: did I loose you?
[04:15] <samuel> hello all
[04:15] <james> I have an AMD chip, what specific kernel do i need?
[04:15] <zAo^> lo
[04:15] <skalpel> is the tunderbird mail client in synaptic package manager?
[04:15] <kahuna_> it's non-free and sun makes you agree to a license to download it
[04:15] <zAo^> james, -K7
[04:15] <nothingsometing> so i guess that means i don't need to mount the webcam right
[04:15] <abisen> kahuna_, and what about acrobat 7 reader
[04:15] <zAo^> skalpel, yes it is
[04:15] <james> zAo^: wheere do i find it! :)
[04:16] <kahuna_> I think that's the same deal abisen, but I don't have it so I'm not sure :)
[04:16] <abisen> kahuna_, in ubuntuguide.org it says sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5\
[04:16] <zAo^> james, "sudo synaptic" search for image
[04:16] <nothingsometing> what about code weavers............ would that work if it was for windows
[04:17] <anderson_> anyone using qemu 0.71 +kqemu
[04:17] <topyli> james: linux-image-k6 or k7, i forget which is there
[04:17] <kahuna_> abisen: huh. Maybe sun-jre is in marillat or something.
[04:17] <anderson_> I got the error: kqemu: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel.
[04:17] <anderson_> kqemu: Unknown symbol __PAGE_KERNEL_EXEC
[04:17] <samuel> id like to get glom for my debian system, could someone plz let me know the rep that the debs for glom are in?
[04:17] <kahuna_> I just install it by hand cause I have way too much stuff that depends on specific java versions
[04:18] <|rockinnerd|> Xyc0, sry
[04:18] <|rockinnerd|> run alsamixer
[04:18] <kahuna_> sun-jre is *not* in any official ubuntu repository
[04:18] <abisen> kahuna_, do you have this repository added in your apt deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:18] <TenPlus1> Is it possible to write to NTFS partitions on a normal Ubuntu install, or do I need to install a separate prog ?
[04:18] <topyli> abisen: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java
[04:18] <kahuna_> abisen: nope.
[04:19] <abisen> kahuna_, it's displayed in ubuntuguide.org but is not working ...
[04:19] <crimsun> TenPlus1: it's not possible by default.
[04:19] <sJaM> I wouldn't try writing to a ntfs partition TenPlus1
[04:19] <abisen> topyli, thanks lemme check if it works
[04:19] <sJaM> not at the moment
[04:19] <TenPlus1> sJaM: problems ???
[04:19] <topyli> abisen: it did at one time, don't know about today :)
[04:19] <sJaM> yes
[04:19] <nothingsometing> ok ok ok  what if i found the drivers for my web cam on driverguide.com cauld i get my webcam to work with lunix then????
[04:20] <kahuna_> I always manage Java myself. I never trust a package manager to upgrade my java because all of my jars dependencies break afte the "auto-upgrade"
[04:20] <tahorg> "I just wanted to say that ubuntu just works here"
[04:20] <topyli> nothingsometing: those are probably windows drivers
[04:20] <kahuna_> nothingsometing: no.
[04:20] <abisen> topyli, thanks it works awesome
[04:20] <topyli> kahuna_: yep, java-package does the trick
[04:20] <kahuna_> good deal then
[04:20] <chiisai> When I try to run ./configure, it starts checking for gcc, but can't find it. How do I fix this?
[04:20] <TenPlus1> sJaM: if I re-format the ntfs partition to say, ext2... can I get windows to read it ???
[04:20] <kahuna_> install gcc
[04:21] <chiisai> You mean, gcc isn't included by default?
[04:21] <skalpel> damn, can someoen tell me how to replace the systray if i accidentally remove it from the bar?
[04:21] <abisen> could somebody also tell me the source to add on apt for adding backports
[04:21] <sJaM> no
[04:21] <kahuna_> TenPlus1: no
[04:21] <sJaM> you should make a fat partition
[04:21] <TenPlus1> tick with fat32 then ??
[04:21] <sJaM> yes
[04:21] <crimsun> chiisai: install build-essential
[04:21] <topyli> chiisai: install build-essential and get everything you need to build stuff
[04:21] <topyli> heh
[04:21] <TenPlus1> a 90gig fat32 partition... ouch!
[04:21] <chiisai> topyli, crimsun: thanks .)
[04:22] <|rockinnerd|> uh... i'm trying to add bootsplash, but ubuntu already has an initrd. help?
[04:22] <chiisai> I thought gcc and standard build tools was pretty standard
[04:22] <kahuna_> chiisai: fore developers they are.
[04:22] <topyli> chiisai: not needed for regular desktops
[04:22] <kahuna_> How many user desktops do you see with a compiler?
[04:22] <kahuna_> :P
[04:22] <topyli> i see many ;)
[04:22] <sJaM> no
[04:22] <skalpel> damn, can someoen tell me how to replace the systray if i accidentally remove it from the bar?
[04:22] <sJaM> you could just make a small fat32 partition
[04:23] <sJaM> to share your files
[04:23] <|rockinnerd|> skalpel, rt-click, add to panel
[04:23] <tommorris> there is no such thing as a small FAT32 partition.
[04:23] <kahuna_> skalpel: It's just a gnome applet. Right click on the bar and choose add applet
[04:23] <TenPlus1> sJaM: unfortunately it has to be that big... lot of music / movies
[04:23] <sJaM> there is no such thing as a big FAT32 partition
[04:23] <samuel> id like to get glom for my debian system, could someone plz let me know the rep that the debs for glom are in?
[04:23] <|rockinnerd|> samuel, try adding universe and multiverse
[04:24] <|rockinnerd|> if they havent been added yet
[04:24] <sJaM> you can read ext2 with windows
[04:24] <sJaM> with a program
[04:24] <topyli> explore2fs
[04:24] <TenPlus1> will it let me write too ?
[04:24] <topyli> no
[04:24] <samuel> |rockinnerd|, would that be "deb http://www.ubuntu.org universe" sort of thing?
[04:24] <TenPlus1> are their any partitions that linux and windows can both read and write too ???
[04:24] <topyli> TenPlus1: but you can read ntfs from linux :)
[04:24] <|rockinnerd|> yes
[04:24] <sJaM> vfat
[04:25] <topyli> which is fat32
[04:25] <samuel> |rockinnerd|, thanks
[04:25] <sJaM> idd
[04:25] <|rockinnerd|> TenPlus1, vfat, fat, or if you're feeling lucky, ntfs BUT you can lose data
[04:25] <`saiko> umm a quick question
[04:25] <sJaM> but only non-windows os can produce fat32 partitions bigger than 32 mb
[04:25] <TenPlus1> hmm, looks like fat32 is the one to go for...
[04:25] <sJaM> but only non-windows os can produce fat32 partitions bigger than 32 gb
[04:25] <`saiko> how to check what's my network interface?
[04:25] <|rockinnerd|> ifconfig
[04:27] <Kmorph> Skalpel::I assume you are using KDE , so simply right click on the <panel> and select <add -> applet->systray>
[04:27] <`saiko> ea but how to see the brand /model of the nic?
[04:27] <skalpel> can i change the way the 'show desktop' button on the taskbar appears as a raised button?
[04:27] <topyli> `saiko: lspci
[04:28] <topyli> `saiko: your nick sucks on a scandinavian keyboard :)
[04:28] <|rockinnerd|> help i can't patch my kernel with the bootsplash patch/
[04:29] <kahuna_> I'm getting a Not Authenticated message in synaptic after upgrading to Hoary From Warty. I assume that I don't have the correct keys. Where and how can I get them
[04:29] <|rockinnerd|> chek the wiki
[04:29] <topyli> kahuna_: i think synaptic can fetch them for you. not sure
[04:30] <topyli> in the repositories dialog
[04:30] <kahuna_> I'll check that out
[04:30] <samuel> i added "deb http://www.ubuntu.org/ universe main" to my sources.list, but this isnt correct, what is please?
[04:30] <|rockinnerd|> samuel, use synaptic
[04:30] <Renski> Whats uudecode?
[04:30] <TenPlus1> wow, almost all questions answered... thx guys
[04:30] <kahuna_> the new xfce looks damn nice
[04:31] <skalpel> kmorph: actually i am using gnome, and i dont see system tray under applets
[04:31] <samuel> |rockinnerd|, i still need the correct line in my sources.list file though (i dont have it, i run debian)
[04:31] <skalpel> k, nm
[04:31] <topyli> samuel: archive.ubuntu.com
[04:31] <TenPlus1> last one... Q.) Will Ubuntu let me share my internet connection with another pc using windows ???
[04:31] <topyli> yes
[04:31] <samuel> topyli, aaa, thanks
[04:31] <topyli> TenPlus1: A.) yes :)
[04:32] <TenPlus1> topyli: any prog I need, or will it let me do it just using Ubuntu itself ?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> skalpel: you might need "notification area"
[04:32] <topyli> TenPlus1: are the boxes networked now?
[04:32] <|rockinnerd|> samuel, brb
[04:32] <TenPlus1> topyli: yes, using WinXP (retch!!!)
[04:32] <thoreauputic> skalpel: same function, different name
[04:32] <skalpel> ah, ok. when i try to load that applet i get an error, and it asks me if i want to delete that applet from my bar
[04:33] <thoreauputic> skalpel: it probably already exists on your panel ;)
[04:33] <TenPlus1> topyli: Main PC using Wireless PCI card, sharing internet and files with laptop using Wireless PCMCIA card and WinXP...
[04:33] <topyli> TenPlus1: i have a linux box on the net, a win box connected to that. the linux firewall shares the connection
[04:33] <TenPlus1> topyli: linux firewall ???
[04:33] <topyli> TenPlus1: iptables, configured with Firestarter
[04:34] <|rockinnerd|> http://chrisslack.homelinux.net/myubuntu.list
[04:34] <TenPlus1> ohhh, kewl :) thx topyil
[04:34] <|rockinnerd|> ^^ for samuel, my ubuntu /etc/apt/sources.lst
[04:34] <TenPlus1> will have to look into that and see how to do it
[04:34] <topyli> TenPlus1: so, eth0 is the evil Net, eth1 is the lan with the windows
[04:35] <TenPlus1> so eth1 will be my wireless card...
[04:35] <topyli> TenPlus1: firestarter has a simple wizard to let you share the connection and set up dhcp
[04:35] <skalpel> is there anyway to make the switching windows applet and show desktop applet transparent?
[04:35] <topyli> TenPlus1: if you want dhcp. you could use static IP's too
[04:35] <thoreauputic> skalpel: not AFAIK
[04:35] <samuel> |rockinnerd|, thanks so much
[04:36] <Random_Sindrom> how nautilus windows can be transparent?
[04:36] <skalpel> AFAIK?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> As Far As I Know
[04:36] <TenPlus1> topyli: will need DCHP to auto-detect cable modem, and prolly use static for home network , kewlness
[04:36] <poningru> yeah I wanna know this too
[04:36] <topyli> TenPlus1: i use static IP's because the client is win98. dhcp may be easier with 2k and xp
[04:36] <h08817> i have a little problem
[04:36] <h08817> my computer randomly shutsdown while i am online
[04:36] <h08817> i am on windows of course
[04:36] <TenPlus1> thx topyli... loads of help :)
[04:36] <poningru> how can you make the nautilus window be transparent?
[04:36] <TenPlus1> cya peeps :) am off to install Ubuntu :D
[04:37] <thoreauputic> h08817: #windows ;)
[04:37] <poningru> TenPlus1: cya dude
[04:37] <h08817> thanks
[04:37] <godzirra> Hrm.. what package do I need to install to get the awesome matrix screensaver I had before?  It seems to have gone away when I installed Ubuntu as a "server"
[04:38] <thoreauputic> godzirra: it should be one of the screensavers in xscreensaver
[04:38] <godzirra> ok.. thanks.
[04:38] <djfm> hi
[04:38] <h08817> godzirra: u got it to work?
[04:38] <godzirra> h08817: Got what to work?
[04:38] <h08817> godzirra: how long did ur install take?
[04:38] <godzirra> My install?   The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist. Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[04:39] <chiisai> I'm trying to compile alsa-drivers, but configure is giving me that error. How do I fix this?
[04:39] <godzirra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51942
[04:39] <godzirra> thats what I used to install my server.
[04:40] <godzirra> are you compiling the kernel?
[04:40] <h08817> no
[04:40] <godzirra> then there's something wrong with your install.
[04:40] <h08817> i am jsut installing hte base system as a server
[04:40] <godzirra> unless you're using like, a 286 or something.
[04:40] <h08817> not that old
[04:40] <h08817> my regular install is fine i know for sure but not sure about server install
[04:40] <topyli> chiisai: you need the kernel sources. or at least the headers
[04:41] <chiisai> I got them.
[04:41] <djfm> I'm looking for an alternative to rhythmbox who periodically Segfaults on my computer.. any idea?
[04:41] <thoreauputic> dj28: beep media player, or muine or amarok or .... I like streamtuner + beep-media-player
[04:41] <thoreauputic> + stremripper :)
[04:41] <thoreauputic> *streamripper
[04:41] <topyli> chiisai: do you have /usr/src/linux? it should be a symlink to your real sources
[04:41] <godzirra> thoreauputic: It says "matrixview" is not installed when I go into the xscreensaver settings.
[04:42] <thoreauputic> godzirra: hmm - hang on a second
[04:42] <kahuna_> solved my key problem by re-importing the Ubuntu Archive signing key. Wierd cause it's the same key, yet it worked by re-importing it.
[04:42] <godzirra> I did an apt-cache search on it and got rss-glx as the packages...
[04:42] <godzirra> so i'm trying to install that.
[04:42] <chiisai> topyli, no, I don't have it. I dunno where my real sources are
[04:42] <godzirra> yup. that was it.
[04:43] <topyli> chiisai: should be /usr/src/linux-<version>
[04:43] <thoreauputic> godzirra: odd, I have xmatrix and matrixview here...
[04:43] <|rockinnerd|> something's wrong with my alsa because i always get this high-pitched squeak with every sound
[04:43] <godzirra> Darnit.. matrix view isnt the one... the one I'm thinking of had pictures appear out of the matrix...
[04:43] <|rockinnerd|> topyli, apt-get install linux-sources
[04:43] <thoreauputic> godzirra:  locate xscreensaver | grep matrix
[04:43] <skalpel> does anyone know why i would be unable to load an app in my taskbar?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> godzirra: maybe not an xscreensaver then
[04:44] <godzirra> I'm pretty sure when I installed ubuntu in non-server mode it had it.
[04:44] <godzirra> i.e. when it was using gnome.
[04:44] <|rockinnerd|> skalpel, b/c it's not in the menu
[04:44] <chiisai> Argh T___T: configure: error: You have built-in ALSA in your kernel.   May I kill myself now? How am I supposed to load alsa-drivers for my integrated Intel HDA?
[04:44] <|rockinnerd|> alsaconfig
[04:45] <|rockinnerd|> alsacfg maybe iirc
[04:45] <xNinja> hello...
[04:45] <skalpel> |rockinerd|: not in the menu? how would i be able to select it then? it is the stickynotes app
[04:45] <xNinja> how many packages ubuntu has ? same as debian ?
[04:45] <Ocid> godzirra: cmatrix - Console Matrix simulates the display from "The Matrix" maybe?
[04:45] <Burgundavia> xNinja, yes
[04:45] <thoreauputic> godzirra: was it some kind of screen grab option perhaps?
[04:46] <topyli> chiisai: hrm. killing self not allowed. but you need to build another kernel i suppose
[04:46] <xNinja> Burgundavia nice nice thanks
[04:46] <godzirra> Ocid: I'm not sure.. it was just the screensaver that happened by default when I did a standard install with nothing special.
[04:46] <chiisai> topyli, ...just to get some modules? snd-azx is what I want
[04:46] <thoreauputic> xNinja: about 16 000 with multiverse and universe
[04:47] <godzirra> it booted up gdm, I logged in, and after sitting there a minute it booted up a matrix screen saver that had pictures emerge and remerge back into the matrix.
[04:47] <chiisai> ...
[04:47] <xNinja> ok...why using ubuntu not debian ?
[04:47] <Ocid> godzirra: that just came up with: apt-cache search screensaver | grep matrix
[04:47] <Ocid> dunno if it's right, i don't have X at all
[04:48] <skalpel> does anyone know why i would be unable to load an app in my taskbar?
[04:48] <ventzo> hi everybody
[04:48] <topyli> chiisai: the only way that comes to mind right now :(
[04:48] <skalpel> or to add an app to my panel, i should say
[04:48] <xNinja> hi ventzo
[04:48] <thoreauputic> skalpel: ? does not compute - please rephrase
[04:48] <topyli> heh
[04:48] <skalpel> i want to add the stickynotes app to my panel but am unable to
[04:48] <Renski> say I want to install lex with apt-get, how would I go about finding out the package name for it?
[04:48] <|rockinnerd|> something's wrong with my alsa because i always get this high-pitched squeak with every sound
[04:48] <chiisai> topyli, I just found this howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto :)
[04:49] <|rockinnerd|> apt-get search lex
[04:49] <chiisai> That will probably work.
[04:49] <ToRTuReD_X> where do i extract limewire to?
[04:49] <MartenH> How can you open several terminals as "tabs" in one window instead of them beeing separate windows?
[04:49] <topyli> chiisai: much cooler :)
[04:49] <MartenH> Like here: http://www.reactionnetworks.com/reactScreenshot.png
[04:49] <concept10> skalpel, right click panel and select add to panel
[04:49] <thoreauputic> MartenH: right click in the window, open tab
[04:49] <skalpel> i did
[04:49] <skalpel> i get an error message from gnome
[04:49] <MartenH> thoreauputic: ty
[04:49] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:49] <concept10> what error
[04:49] <skalpel> for some reason based on the behavior of my gnomebar i think it has something to do with my sytray
[04:50] <Renski> |rockinnerd|: E: Invalid operation search
[04:50] <concept10> skalpel, what error
[04:50] <Ocid> Renski: apt-cache search lex
[04:50] <godzirra> Ocid: nope.. thats not it either.
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Renski: apt-cache search
[04:50] <skalpel> the panel encountered a problem while loading OAFID:GNOME_stickynotesapplet
[04:50] <skalpel> then it asks me if i want to delete the app from my config
[04:50] <skalpel> i get two error message boxes at the same time.
[04:51] <thoreauputic> skalpel: sounds like a bug...
[04:51] <|rockinnerd|> --search
[04:51] <godzirra> thoreauputic: There's another xscreensaver called "glmatrix" that says its not installed either.
[04:53] <topyli> skalpel: try 'killall gnome-panel' and let it respawn
[04:53] <skalpel> alright
[04:53] <thoreauputic> godzirra: apt-cache search xscreensaver  - there are a few alternatives I think: apt-cache show to check them out
[04:53] <skalpel> heh. it has not respawned. =)
[04:53] <|rockinnerd|> gnome-panel
[04:54] <skalpel> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:54] <skalpel> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:54] <skalpel> (gnome-panel:4195): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:54] <godzirra> Hrm... maybe it is matrixview.  For some reason its so much slower when I installed "Server" than it was when I installed the "standard" way
[04:54] <thoreauputic> godzirra: different machine? different graphics card?
[04:55] <|rockinnerd|> how do you install the electric sheep screensaver for xscreensaver
[04:55] <effowe> hey i have a quick question about partitioning, is the root partition the primary, and everything else logical?
[04:55] <godzirra> Same machine.
[04:55] <ToRTuReD_X> ubuntu is a debian "based" distro right?
[04:55] <godzirra> its a laptop.
[04:55] <|rockinnerd|> ToRTuReD_X, yes
[04:55] <godzirra> I think I'm going to get rid of my server install and do a standard install.
[04:55] <ToRTuReD_X> k
[04:55] <ToRTuReD_X> thanks
[04:55] <skalpel> what should i do now that i cannot start gnome-panel?
[04:55] <|rockinnerd|> effowe, no
[04:56] <skalpel> i do not want to restart
[04:56] <Amaranth> ToRTuReD_X: Don't mix Debian and Ubuntu repositories.
[04:56] <topyli> skalpel: that's weird. perhaps you have to kill X and pray while logging in again
[04:56] <thoreauputic> |rockinnerd|: you apt-get install electricsheep
[04:56] <|rockinnerd|> thx
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> ack
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i know if i want amule stable or cvs?
[04:56] <skalpel> perhaps
[04:56] <python> effowe: Usually this is the way to do it
[04:56] <thoreauputic> skalpel: log out  and in again
[04:56] <python> However having two prmiary partitions wouldnt hurt either
[04:57] <skalpel> fine. *sigh*
[04:57] <topyli> skalpel: you can still try starting gnome-panel from the alt-F2 dialog
[04:57] <selinium> any one got a good sources.list i can have?
[04:57] <effowe> python: i see you say this is the way to do it.. but i didnt see anything after that?
[04:57] <skalpel> i do not have an f2 dialogue
[04:57] <skalpel> i am using gnome
[04:57] <effowe> python: oh nevermind heh
[04:57] <thoreauputic> skalpel: alt-F2
[04:57] <topyli> skalpel: perhaps the panel needs to be running for that to work :)
[04:58] <python> Logicals come into play as you can only have amximum of 4 primary partitions
[04:58] <skalpel> haha yes
[04:58] <skalpel> i will just logout and in
[04:58] <topyli> |rockinnerd|: try and snap out of it :)
[04:58] <|rockinnerd|> haha
[04:58] <effowe> python: ok thanks
[04:58] <|rockinnerd|> touch: cannot touch `my_ass': Permission denied
[04:59] <topyli> |rockinnerd|: your ass seems to be 0wnd by someone else
[04:59] <|rockinnerd|> again, haha
[05:00] <godzirra> Is there a way to -not- install gnome?
[05:00] <hondje> godzirra: doing a 'server' install
[05:00] <|rockinnerd|> godzirra, if you only want kde, get kubuntu
[05:00] <Amaranth> Doing a 'server' install pretty much installs just enough to make the machine bootable (no X, etc).
[05:00] <topyli> i thought not installing gnome is illegal in most countries
[05:01] <godzirra> |rockinnerd|: dear gods no.
[05:01] <thoreauputic> topyli: you are thinking of Windows Xp ;P
[05:01] <godzirra> I want fluxbox.
[05:01] <topyli> hehe
[05:01] <godzirra> how do I remove gnome then after the fact? :)
[05:01] <|rockinnerd|> server install, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:01] <|rockinnerd|> this or that
[05:01] <godzirra> I -want- the desktop.. just not gnome.
[05:01] <python> if i was u godzilla id just do a frsh kubuntu install
[05:01] <Amaranth> godzirra: sudo apt-get remove --purge libgtk2.0-0 should pretty much do it. ;)
[05:01] <godzirra> python: I don't WANT kde.
[05:02] <|rockinnerd|> apt-get install fluxbox
[05:02] <spike> how do I do a netinstall? I've downloaded and written linux and initrd.gz images to disk, but they won't boot
[05:02] <thoreauputic> |rockinnerd|: that won't uninstall gnome -it's a metapackage
[05:02] <|rockinnerd|> ah.
[05:02] <topyli> |rockinnerd|: removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't remove anything else but the metapackage
[05:02] <h08817> what exactly is kde?
[05:02] <godzirra> |rockinnerd|: ok, I know how to do that..  I want to uninstall gnome though, because I won't -ever- be using it.
[05:02] <thoreauputic> ie ubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <spike> it tells me "it's deprecated" and that I need a bootloader
[05:02] <|rockinnerd|> godzirra: do a server-install
[05:02] <Amaranth> godzirra: sudo apt-get remove --purge libgtk2.0-0 should pretty much do it. ;)
[05:03] <python> ever tht of linux from scratch?
[05:03] <godzirra> |rockinnerd|: I did that before, and for some reason things are running ridiculously slow...
[05:03] <|rockinnerd|> wAAAAy too slow
[05:03] <|rockinnerd|> ^^ LFS
[05:03] <godzirra> Granted I'm only benchmarking that from the screensaver I had running...
[05:03] <godzirra> but now it takes like 3 minutes for the screensaver to fully cover the screen... standard install it was like 2 seconds.
[05:03] <Amaranth> python: Just because he doesn't want GNOME or KDE doesn't mean he needs to use LFS.
[05:03] <|rockinnerd|> godzirra, u probably need the nvidia-glx if you need the nvidia driver
[05:03] <kahuna_> try wmaker or xfce
[05:04] <|rockinnerd|> or kde for that matter
[05:04] <godzirra> Its an ATI card.
[05:04] <python> I suppose Amaranth i just suggesting alternatives
[05:04] <|rockinnerd|> godzirra: check the wiki
[05:04] <|rockinnerd|> search for graphics driver
[05:04] <kahuna_> I have xfce on an old PII 400 notebook. Works very nice
[05:04] <kahuna_> no gnome stuff at all because I did a custom install
[05:04] <godzirra> Wow.  Searching for ATI so doesnt work
[05:04] <godzirra> Its amazingh how may words have the letters "ATI" in them
[05:05] <godzirra> damnit.. rockinnerd left.
[05:06] <godzirra> What am I supposed to be checking the wiki for?
[05:06] <h08817> OK
[05:06] <Ocid> !display
[05:06] <ubotu> [display]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[05:06] <Ocid> !binary drivers
[05:06] <ubotu> Ocid: Are you smoking crack?
[05:06] <Ocid> heh
[05:06] <h08817> i just want a plain guide i can download onto my computer (windows) to learn everything possible about linux before i use it
[05:06] <h08817> besides the ubuntu guide
[05:06] <nightswim> why isnt "lame" apt-getable
[05:06] <Ocid> !ATI
[05:07] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:07] <h08817> on that offshore website
[05:07] <h08817> whatever
[05:07] <h08817> a good guide that makes sense to noobs would be nice
[05:07] <kahuna_> h08817: try O'reilly. They have plenty of free books about running linux.
[05:08] <kahuna_> h08817: In fact I think the debina-centric "Running Linux" book is free
[05:08] <h08817> room is going down
[05:08] <kahuna_> nope. just a teeny netsplit
[05:08] <godzirra> umm.. Isnt it odd that I don't have a /proc/pci ?
[05:08] <h08817> o ok
[05:08] <Ocid> ubotu: tell godzirra about ATI
[05:08] <topyli> h08817: read the debian docs
[05:08] <kahuna_> godzirra: nope. you have a /proc/bus/pi
[05:08] <h08817> i hope no one is using for their advantage
[05:08] <kahuna_> pci
[05:08] <python> <<why does my user name appear grey
[05:08] <h08817> dunno
[05:09] <h08817> topyli: where are the debian docs
[05:09] <kahuna_> the proc filesystem was rewritten
[05:09] <jeff_hann_> python:what client?
[05:09] <python> on here when i type a message my name is grey
[05:10] <jeff_hann_> ok....what client are you using?
[05:10] <python> C-Chat
[05:10] <python> X-Chat
[05:10] <godzirra> Ahh.. ok.
[05:10] <kahuna_> Well my name is white when I type! Damn it!!!
[05:10] <jeff_hann_> lol
[05:10] <python> lol
[05:10] <kahuna_> What am I doing wrong?
[05:11] <godzirra> kahuna_: How do I see a list of my pci devices?  Its not in /proc/bus/pci/devices :)
[05:11] <python> ive never used X chat before
[05:11] <kahuna_> lspci
[05:11] <jeff_hann_> x-chat shows your nick differently to show it's yours
[05:11] <kahuna_> you might need pciutils
[05:11] <python> tht it might be comething like tht but wsnt to sure
[05:11] <jeff_hann_> it sure is
[05:11] <godzirra> Ahh. ok
[05:11] <thoreauputic> godzirra:  lspci
[05:12] <redtech> good morning party people
[05:12] <kahuna_> hi
[05:12] <Belutz> i attached my CDROM on RAID IDE, and ubuntu live CD can't detect it... how do i resolve this? the mobo manufacturer doesn't supply the linux driver for RAID
[05:12] <python> Are there any Uk Ubuntu Users in here?
[05:12] <godzirra> Hrm.  I get this:  "FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device"
[05:13] <bob2> godzirra: then you don't have hardware that it works with
[05:13] <thoreauputic> python: Ukrainian ? < g >
[05:13] <godzirra> Ok.. then it goes back to why when I did a standard install does my screensaver work at lightning speed... when I did a server install it crawls about 10 times slower.
[05:14] <bob2> do you have a rdaeon <= 9200?
[05:14] <godzirra> IGP 340M
[05:14] <thoreauputic> godzirra: does your fluxbox take ages to load too ?
[05:14] <godzirra> thoreauputic: Yes
[05:14] <h08817> well i guess linux doesn't like me
[05:15] <thoreauputic> godzirra: you have the "not compiled with --disable-xmb" bug
[05:15] <holycow> h08817, your still fighting with the install?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> godzirra: it's a fluxbox bug
[05:15] <h08817> yes
[05:15] <h08817> any ideas
[05:15] <holycow> you know i just ran into a mobo that the di cannot handle
[05:15] <holycow> yes, buy another mobo
[05:15] <godzirra> thoreauputic: what does that mean and how do I fix it?
[05:15] <kahuna_> h08817: Linux HATES you!
[05:15] <kahuna_> :-P
[05:15] <h08817> thanks
[05:15] <holycow> sometimes that simply is the answer
[05:16] <holycow> we build our own systems, and we specifically build them by purchasing for the chipset first and then adding the other stuff around that
[05:16] <thoreauputic> godzirra: atm you have to compile fluxbox yourself to fix it - I can tell you about it in /msg if you wish
[05:16] <h08817> i guess i'll have to stick with microshit windows
[05:16] <kahuna_> Of course if you give it a back massage every night, it might *start* to like you :)
[05:16] <brodo> can someone help me to get skype running?
[05:16] <godzirra> Please?
[05:16] <thoreauputic> godzirra: i had the same issue
[05:16] <holycow> h08817, on some mobos, yep, on this machine i haveto install win2k, di will simply choke for some reason
[05:17] <h08817> what is a mobo?
[05:17] <Efwis> motherboard
[05:17] <brodo> everytime i start is there is the following error msg: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared o bject file: No such file or directory
[05:17] <h08817> thanks
[05:17] <Nermal> is there an easy way to determine if my glibc has NPTL support enabled?
[05:17] <brodo> how can i download this librarie?
[05:17] <kahuna_> brodo: do you have the qt-libs inststalled?
[05:17] <levander`> Anybody has gotten udftools working?  I get an error no matter what udftools command I run.
[05:18] <brodo> kahuna_, don't know. can i install them with apt-get install qt-libs?
[05:18] <kahuna_> brodo: Just make sure you have qt installed. I'm not sure of the name, use synaptic
[05:18] <jowi> brodo, you need to install the 'libqt3c102-mt' package
[05:18] <kahuna_> but I'm sure it starts with qt*
[05:19] <brodo> kahuna_, ok thx. i try
[05:19] <kahuna_> there you have it, stright from jowi
[05:19] <thoreauputic> godzirra: you saw my /msg ?
[05:19] <Amaranth> finally
[05:19] <Amaranth> I love freenode!
[05:19] <Whistler> me too
[05:19] <zAo^> :)
[05:19] <Whistler> =]
[05:19] <kahuna_> lol
[05:20] <kahuna_> better than dalnet
[05:20] <Last_in_Line> Hello
[05:20] <zAo^> lo
[05:20] <Amaranth> join throttling should _NOT_ keep channel operators out
[05:20] <zAo^> anyone on Breezy?
[05:20] <Amaranth> me
[05:20] <zAo^> :)
[05:21] <zAo^> What version of Xorg you using?
[05:21] <levander`> Anybody know if I have to patch the latest hoary kernel to get udftools to work?
[05:21] <Amaranth> latest and greatest
[05:21] <nalioth> Amaranth is a dev. He knows what he is doing.
[05:21] <Last_in_Line> I installed Ubuntu the other day & while it looks nice, it sure likes to mess with my mind.
[05:21] <zAo^> can I update Xorg to 7.0?
[05:21] <Amaranth> zAo^: Do you like having Xorg work? Do you like using a keyboard?
[05:21] <zAo^> im on 6.8.2-36 right now
[05:21] <levander`> How can I figure out if the hoary kernel has the packet writing patch applied to it?
[05:22] <zAo^> Amaranth, I like the commadline, but I need X..
[05:22] <Amaranth> levander`: install something that needs it and see what happens?
[05:22] <Amaranth> zAo^: They you're probably better off where you are.
[05:22] <levander`> Amaranth: udftools needs it, it doesn't work, but I'm not sure if its because of that or something else i haven't done.
[05:22] <eth42> synaptic complains "Could not download all repository indexes"
[05:22] <zAo^> Amaranth, thanks
[05:22] <Amaranth> zAo^: I had to grab things from hoary, hack things together, and hunt for packages that nothing depends on but are needed.
[05:22] <eth42> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems.
[05:22] <Last_in_Line> Anyone know what the default login & pass is for mysql?
[05:23] <xwind> Is version 2 of gramps available for hoary?
[05:23] <eth42> anyone else having those problems?
[05:23] <zAo^> Amaranth, ah. Thanks. I'll stay here for a week or so :)
[05:23] <Whistler> when will new opera be aviable thru apt-get?
[05:23] <zAo^> what will Xorg 7.0 give us anyway?
[05:23] <jcsteele> i am trying to install libdvdcss from the package manager, i am assuming this is maintained in the repository, no?
[05:24] <levander`> Last_in_Line: if you haven't changed anything, I think there's an anonymous user with no password.  Just type mysql from the same machine, and see if you get in.
[05:24] <Amaranth> eth42: us.archive.ubuntu.com is working fine here
[05:24] <Amaranth> jcsteele: it's not
[05:25] <Last_in_Line> ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:25] <jcsteele> ok then, that would explain things.  I just wanted to make sure as its my first ubuntu install
[05:25] <Whistler> i do sudo apt-get install opera and i can install only 8.01
[05:25] <jcsteele> thx.
[05:25] <eth42> Amaranth: can I change all repositories to us.archive.ubuntu.com at once?
[05:25] <Whistler> when 8.02 will be aviable?
[05:25] <Amaranth> eth42: what are you on now?
[05:25] <Last_in_Line> How about the postsql?
[05:25] <levander`> Last_in_Line: this is a fresh install, or you have been playing with it, configuring users, etc.
[05:25] <zAo^> Whistler, on Hoary?
[05:25] <Whistler> yep
[05:26] <Amaranth> Whistler: I'm not sure where you're getting opera but it's not in Ubuntu repositories.
[05:26] <zAo^> well; it doesnt I think?
[05:26] <zAo^> ^^
[05:26] <eth42> Amaranth: de.ubuntu....
[05:26] <Last_in_Line> Fresh, I have been trying to get egroupware to run on it though
[05:26] <northind> Last_in_Line: seems to me your mysqld is not running
[05:27] <Last_in_Line> It just can't create its database on either sql program
[05:27] <Amaranth> eth42: I'm not good enough at sed hacking to do it automatically, sorry.
[05:27] <Amaranth> eth42: I just tried and wiped out my sources.list file. :)
[05:27] <eth42> Amaranth: ok, now it works.... must have been some temporary error (or maybe because I killed the update applet)
[05:27] <zAo^> Amaranth, whats the best way to get a package in the repos?
[05:27] <Amaranth> zAo^: Opera will never get in.
[05:27] <levander`> Last_in_Line: try this: 'mysql -u root'
[05:27] <eth42> Amaranth: :-) sorry (I could have helped on sed)
[05:27] <zAo^> Amaranth, Its not about Opera :) Klibido is what I want :)
[05:28] <Amaranth> zAo^: Other than that, the best way is to join #ubuntu-motu and start learning how to package things. :)
[05:28] <hopeng> yepee im downloading ubuntu rite now, the guys at #css tells me that ubuntu is good at web deevloping
[05:28] <Amaranth> eth42: I have backups.
[05:28] <Amaranth> :)
[05:28] <brodo> kahuna_, thx 4 your help. it works now.
[05:28] <zAo^> thxn
[05:29] <levander`> Is there some way to talk to the MOTU for udftools.  I've been searching all over the internet, haven't seen anybody get udftools working with hoary, but did find a few people asking how to.
[05:29] <Last_in_Line> same error
[05:29] <thespiritoftal> anyoen knows a nice racing game for ubuntu?
[05:30] <levander`> Last_in_Line: somebody asked you if you were sure mysqld is runnning. Is it?
[05:30] <jcsteele> \
[05:30] <Last_in_Line> I don't know, I have my doubts too
[05:30] <eth42> Amaranth: where are those repository configs located?
[05:30] <Last_in_Line> I'm a windows user.. lol
[05:30] <Amaranth> eth42: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:30] <eth42> Amaranth: I need to install some software but don't have the cd at hand
[05:30] <eth42> Amaranth: thank you!
[05:30] <levander`> Last_in_Line: 'ps -ef | grep mysql'
[05:30] <thespiritoftal> noone knows some nice games to play in ubuntu?
[05:30] <Earered> thespiritoftal, tuxracer ;)
[05:31] <zAo^> thespiritoftal, free games? Otherwise: Quake, Unreal Tournament?
[05:31] <Last_in_Line> That changed my prompt
[05:31] <kahuna_> I play stepmania
[05:32] <kahuna_> and the various quakes, and doom
[05:32] <rob^> cs works good too
[05:32] <TeraClon> stepmania rocks
[05:32] <rob^> cedega though
[05:32] <kahuna_> TeraClon: What sims do you like to play
[05:32] <northind> Last_in_Line, or do a netstat -lt to see if the mysql daemon is actually listening
[05:33] <Last_in_Line> Does Diablo II work on Ubuntu?
[05:33] <zAo^> kahuna_, where do I download that adaptor? :P
[05:33] <TeraClon> my one
[05:33] <Razor-X> I play Nethack, ToME, UT, and TuxRacer ;)
[05:33] <levander`> Last_in_Line: what? how could ps change your prompt?
[05:33] <TeraClon> my own
[05:33] <kahuna_> Cool.
[05:34] <Last_in_Line> It changed from # to >
[05:34] <ph8> lo all
[05:34] <zAo^> Last_in_Line, `echo $PS1` ?
[05:34] <ph8> I'm just about to install kubuntu o/
[05:34] <Razor-X> Last_in_Line: that means you're still feeding input to the program
[05:34] <nariman> HELP!!!
[05:34] <nariman> :(
[05:34] <ToRTuReD_X> i hate linux
[05:34] <ToRTuReD_X> it's being mean
[05:34] <ph8> ok
[05:34] <ToRTuReD_X> :(
[05:34] <levander`> Last_in_Line: you weren't supposed to type in the '
[05:35] <zAo^> ??
[05:35] <ph8> so i push enter when booted to CD
[05:35] <ph8> and the screen just goes blank
[05:35] <nariman> can some one help me?
[05:35] <ph8> and staya that way?
[05:35] <kahuna_> TeraClon: you play on heavy then? I do heavy ~8 feet. No 9 footers yet.
[05:35] <levander`> Last_in_Line: the 's I put on that command
[05:35] <ph8> * stays
[05:35] <Razor-X> nariman: shoot
[05:35] <ph8> I don't think that's meant to happen?
[05:35] <Amaranth> fans of my last desktop screenshot may enjoy http://www.realistanew.com/desktop2.png
[05:35] <nariman> when i run config
[05:35] <nariman> in the terminal window
[05:35] <TeraClon> yeah i do some 9s and 2 10s
[05:35] <nariman> i get the message
[05:35] <kahuna_> Amaranth: Is it work safe?
[05:35] <levander`> Last_in_Line: Ctrl-C to get out of that, they type 'ps -ef | grep mysql' - without the 's
[05:35] <Amaranth> kahuna_: yes
[05:35] <kahuna_> lol
[05:36] <nariman> "no accepted c-compiler found
[05:36] <levander`> Last_in_Line: no ticks in what you type
[05:36] <northind> Last_in_Line, type a single quote and press enter.
[05:36] <zAo^> Amaranth, like the desktop, but the icons...
[05:36] <Amaranth> Look at the lovely weather we're having here in Iowa!
[05:36] <Razor-X> nariman: ........ is that really that much to sweat over?
[05:36] <Amaranth> zAo^: The icons are breezy default.
[05:36] <nariman> im a newbie so :)
[05:36] <TeraClon> is there a program similar to Sonic Foundreys ACID in linux?
[05:36] <Razor-X> insert your installation CD and type in ``sudo apt-get install build-essentials''
[05:36] <Razor-X> and if you compile regularly
[05:36] <bob2> TeraClon: best if you explain what that program does
[05:36] <kahuna_> What does ACID do? Is it a sequencer.
[05:36] <Razor-X> ``sudo apt-get install automake autoconf''
[05:37] <Razor-X> TeraClon: there are free MIDI Sequencers out there
[05:37] <Amaranth> btw, the woman in that screenshot is the same one that's in http://www.realistanew.com/desktop.png :)
[05:37] <zAo^> Amaranth, hmm. Got Crystal Clear here
[05:37] <Razor-X> not just for Linux, but I don't know how that compares to Acid
[05:37] <TeraClon> It allows people to chop up songs
[05:37] <Amaranth> zAo^: you're on KDE :P
[05:38] <zAo^> Amaranth, nope. Crystal for Gnome ;)
[05:38] <Amaranth> *shudder*
[05:38] <TeraClon> but beat-wise
[05:38] <Last_in_Line> Ok, that seems to have done something
[05:38] <Razor-X> nariman: why do you want to dcc?
[05:38] <levander`> Amaranth: bad girls should never wear plaid, it kind of ruins the whole fantasy for me
[05:38] <kozlyk> can someone give me a hand with my samba server?
[05:38] <nariman> i want to install xmms
[05:38] <bob2> TeraClon: sweep, perhaps
[05:38] <kahuna_> there's nothing like that for linux AFAIK
[05:38] <Razor-X> nariman: sudo apt-get install xmms
[05:38] <Last_in_Line> Does that mean its running now?
[05:39] <kahuna_> Sweep only crossfades and does effects, doesn't it?
[05:39] <nariman> where shall i type that, cant we start a priv chat window
[05:39] <spike> how do I do a netinstall? I've downloaded and written linux and initrd.gz images to disk, but they won't boot. what am I supposed to do? the installation guide on the wiki is almost non-existing
[05:39] <Amaranth> levander`: I like her better with her goth makeup on dressed in black.
[05:39] <Razor-X> kahuna_: does Acid do anything special? Because free MIDI Sequencers have been available for a while
[05:39] <nariman> so many messages in at one time
[05:39] <Belutz> Amaranth: how do i load live CD when my CD-ROM is attached on RAID ?
[05:39] <kahuna_> yup. I like rosegarden the best.
[05:39] <Razor-X> or, I think you people are looking for Audacity
[05:39] <levander`> Last_in_Line: does what mean it's running?
[05:39] <PurpleWurld> total linux n00b need to get  d-link airplus working on ubuntu.  can't get onto the net on that machine w/o it any help?
[05:39] <bob2> spike: those are intended for tftp booting
[05:39] <Amaranth> Belutz: Pray to $DEITY that it works?
[05:39] <Last_in_Line> oops, I tried typing mysql & same error as before
[05:39] <Amaranth> Belutz: I have no idea.
[05:39] <Razor-X> !wireless
[05:39] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:39] <Razor-X> !ndishowto
[05:39] <PurpleWurld> thx
[05:39] <ubotu> Razor-X: I haven't a clue
[05:39] <Razor-X> grrr ;)
[05:40] <Belutz> Amaranth: hehehe
[05:40] <Last_in_Line> root     19682 19474  0 10:37 pts/0    00:00:00 grep mysql
[05:40] <dabaR> hehe@
[05:40] <levander`> Last_in_Line: what what the output in the last column of that command I gave you.  Last column on every row of the output.
[05:40] <dabaR> hehe@$DEITY
[05:40] <Amaranth> deFrysk: What did dropline do to the etiquette theme?
[05:40] <kahuna_> I thought $DEITY lives in /dev/null
[05:40] <kahuna_> or sometimes $FATE=/dev/random
[05:40] <levander`> Last_in_Line: that's just the process where you were grepping for mysql.  That's not mysql itself
[05:40] <Amaranth> deFrysk: etiquette is hoary default, btw
[05:41] <levander`> Last_in_Line: '/etc/init.d/mysql start' to start mysql, *NO TICKS*
[05:41] <deFrysk> Amaranth, dropline etiquette is much nicer
[05:41] <znh> Hmm.. since I installed kde-devel, I can't run bash scripts such as configure (Segmentation Fault) - How to heal this?
[05:41] <Amaranth> deFrysk: it's all washed out
[05:41] <spike> bob2: oh
[05:41] <Razor-X> any non BASH/KSH/ZSH/xCSH users here?
[05:41] <spike> bob2: ok, I'll look again into boot floppies...
[05:41] <zAo^> sorry, KSH/SH
[05:41] <deFrysk> Amaranth, washed out ?
[05:42] <Amaranth> deFrysk: the colors
[05:42] <ph8> Erm guys, i'm booting to CD (new windows laptop) - pushing enter for full install and it all goes black after initting the kernel
[05:42] <ph8> .. any ideas?
[05:42] <nightswim> Razor-X: what shell are you looking for then? :)
[05:42] <Razor-X> nightswim: was wondering if there were others ;)
[05:42] <Razor-X> how's ZSH then? ;)
[05:42] <kahuna_> I don't use a shell. my shell field in /etc/passwd is /usr/bin/python
[05:42] <nightswim> zsh rocks
[05:42] <Razor-X> I use BASH+esh right now
[05:42] <Last_in_Line> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.
[05:42] <Last_in_Line>         Please take a look at the syslog.
[05:42] <deFrysk> Amaranth, to me its the best icontheme along with eXperienceCrystal
[05:42] <nightswim> I use zsh
[05:42] <znh> Nobody know how to fix this.. blah then kde-devel is really corrupt
[05:42] <dabaR> there is dash
[05:43] <dabaR> I just saw that the other day.
[05:43] <levander`> Last_in_Line: 'less /var/log/syslog', go all the way to the bottom to find something mysql related
[05:43] <Razor-X> !repos
[05:43] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:43] <bob2> dash isn't a useful shell
[05:43] <bob2> znh: in breezy?
[05:43] <Razor-X> !tell nariman about repos
[05:43] <znh> bob2: nope i'm in Horay
[05:43] <dabaR> creators would beg to differ:)
[05:43] <kahuna_> I've heard of something called fish too
[05:43] <znh> bob2: *Hoary
[05:43] <bob2> Last_in_Line: what did you change from the defaults?
[05:43] <dabaR> or maybe they wouldnt
[05:43] <eth42> has anyone had problems with DHCP-client so far?
[05:43] <bob2> dash isn't meant as an interactive shell
[05:43] <Razor-X> What are the advantages of zsh over say BASH, if I may ask? ;)
[05:43] <bob2> unless you have very tight constraints
[05:44] <Last_in_Line> Nothing is changed, I haven't got it started yet... lol
[05:44] <levander`> Razor-X: ssh is for remote connections, it's like a secure telnet
[05:44] <bob2> Razor-X: better for scripting, better completion, loadable modules
[05:44] <Razor-X> levander`: I know what ssh is ;0
[05:44] <zAo^> eth42, nope. I only changed the DNS serv
[05:44] <bob2> Last_in_Line: all you've done is install the mysql-server package?
[05:44] <Razor-X> bob2: it's fully compatible with BASH no?
[05:44] <levander`> Razor-X: bash and ssh are two different things, they're apples and oranges
[05:44] <bob2> Razor-X: no
[05:44] <Razor-X> really?
[05:44] <bob2> Razor-X: it's compatible with sh
[05:44] <eth42> I got "No DHCPOFFERS received."
[05:44] <bob2> levander`: zsh != ssh
[05:45] <Razor-X> oh :(
[05:45] <znh> bob2: you might want to change the topic, kde-devel ruins ubuntu hoary
[05:45] <bob2> eth42: breezy?
[05:45] <eth42> now I'm in (and don't know why)
[05:45] <Last_in_Line> and whatever seemed related, along with webmin
[05:45] <Razor-X> I thought it was a BASH superset.... hmmmm
[05:45] <zAo^> bob2, something in /etc/inetd.conf?
[05:45] <eth42> bob2: no hoary
[05:45] <levander`> Razor-X: oh, my bad, i misread
[05:45] <MartenH> what font is used for the ubuntu logo?
[05:45] <bob2> znh: not until you've asked ridell about it and someone else can confirm it
[05:45] <znh> _o_
[05:45] <bob2> Razor-X: it's a superset in the ways that matter
[05:45] <znh> then how to fix this?
[05:45] <Razor-X> bob2: hehe
[05:45] <phixion> its a hand made font MartenH
[05:45] <bob2> znh: what did Riddell suggest earlier?
[05:45] <phixion> not for release atm afaik
[05:45] <Razor-X> only reason is that, BASH scripting tutorials are widely known
[05:45] <znh> bob2: He didn't suggest me yet
[05:45] <simple> hi.. i have Ubuntu installed on /dev/sda3, and i'm int he process of installing gentoo, so far i've got it mounted, basesystem installed, kernel compiled and now i have a boot question
[05:46] <Razor-X> and I use a BASH script to download podcasts
[05:46] <zAo^> how do I refresh /etc/inetd.conf? (sorry used to AIX..)
[05:46] <bob2> znh: where did you file a bug?
[05:46] <Last_in_Line> Jul 28 01:28:57 localhost mysqld_safe[8422] : Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted
[05:46] <Last_in_Line> Jul 28 01:28:57 localhost mysqld_safe[8422] : Installation of grant tables failed!
[05:46] <jcsteele> ok, i got libdvdcss2 install, along with vlc and mplayer....both using xvid as the output mode..but dvd playback is horrible.
[05:46] <Razor-X> now esh is compatible with both, but i'm not so sure about zsh in general, i'll just run non-cooperating things in esh then ;)
[05:46] <bob2> Razor-X: scripts that need bash will call bash
[05:46] <Razor-X> bob2: doh!
[05:46] <znh> bob2: file? - well, after I installed kde-devel I'm getting Segmentation Errors in bash scripts such as configure
[05:46] <bob2> if not, they're buggy
[05:46] <simple> grub is installed to the mbr, so would i add /sda1 to /etc/fstab on ubuntu and the boot script in /boot/ or would it be sepereate on the gentoo partition?
[05:46] <Razor-X> haha, that was stupid
[05:46] <jcsteele> is there anything i need to change thats ubuntu/linux specific to improve playback quality?
[05:47] <bob2> znh: and you filed a bug?
[05:47] <znh> bob2: I don't know what you mean by filed
[05:47] <deFrysk> jcsteele, get totem-xine ?
[05:47] <dabaR> simple: I think you are missing what you would like to have done. fstab is for mounting.
[05:47] <bob2> znh: report a bug
[05:47] <znh> bob2: no not yet.. I want to solve this first :-)
[05:47] <jcsteele> deFrysk: no i have not tried that...it offers better playback quality?
[05:47] <deFrysk> to me it does yes
[05:48] <simple> missing what?
[05:48] <Razor-X> are there any nice zsh scripting tutorials out there?
[05:48] <dabaR> simple: + we have no clue how gentoo works, and what it wants.
[05:48] <jcsteele> i will try that then, thx.
[05:48] <dabaR> s/we/I
[05:48] <Last_in_Line> How about that pgsql, how do I make that run?
[05:48] <dabaR> simple: what are you trying to get accomplished, is what I think you are missing.
[05:48] <bob2> Razor-X: www.zsh.org
[05:48] <Last_in_Line> If that will run I'll just take mysql off
[05:48] <bob2> Razor-X: it's just a bourne-compatible shell, with extensions.
[05:49] <bob2> Last_in_Line: sudo aptitude install postgresql
[05:49] <zAo^> bob2, why?
[05:49] <bob2> znh: or just purging kde-devel and everything else it installed
[05:49] <bob2> znh: ?
[05:49] <bob2> bah
[05:49] <bob2> z0?
[05:49] <zAo^> bob2, never reinstall :S use DEBFOSTER
[05:49] <znh> bob2: I forget the --purge
[05:49] <kozlyk> can someone give me a hand with my samba server?
[05:49] <znh> bob2: Is there some way to see what kde-devel depends?
[05:50] <bob2> apt-cache show kde-devel
[05:50] <bob2> and use aptitude in future
[05:50] <Razor-X> znh: I know you can in aptitude, not sure how in apt-get
[05:50] <dabaR> simple: are you trying to add a boot entry for the gentoo?
[05:50] <simple> dabar i don't think so
[05:50] <simple> yeah
[05:50] <dabaR> well, you never said that, at least as far as I can read(which is not much)_
[05:51] <simple> i asked adding an entry to grub?
[05:51] <dabaR> simple: why not just install the gentoo grub to mbr? how does their install work, is it the same as ourse?
[05:52] <dabaR> simple: did you ask on #gentoo? I think they would know this much better.
[05:52] <simple> yeah
[05:52] <simple> i'm going back and fourth
[05:52] <dabaR> ok
[05:52] <simple> ty
[05:52] <jcsteele> deFrysk: that seemed to fix it a good bit...not perfect, but much better than before.  thank you.
[05:52] <dabaR> well, our grub menu is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:52] <jcsteele> now onto nsv stream playback....
[05:52] <dabaR> that is where I would add something to boot out of.
[05:53] <dabaR> their entry for booting, they muight know. get someone to give you their entry, and modify it for the right hard drive.
[05:53] <Hackmo> Can someone help me with a dvd-rom problem, when I put the dvd in the drive I wont get the option to view it
[05:53] <Hackmo> it just takes me to a dvd burning program
[05:53] <levander`> Anybody know what the difference between packet writing and UDF is?
[05:53] <mknisely> Other than a Text editor, what is the Killer app for managing DNS Zones?
[05:53] <bob2> UDF is a filesystem
[05:53] <dabaR> Hackmo: sounds like a feature. Whre are you looking for this option?
[05:53] <bob2> it's orthogonal to packet writing
[05:53] <simple> i just wanted to make sure my logic wasn't flawed :D thanks dabaR
[05:53] <levander`> bob2: what is packet writing?
[05:54] <levander`> bob2: that's really where I'm confused
[05:54] <bob2> writing things incrementally
[05:54] <Razor-X> fish looks nice... ;)
[05:54] <bob2> surely google could find you a definition?
[05:54] <Last_in_Line> I am only downloading the postsql client with that command
[05:54] <levander`> Hackmo: that's probably because you've inserted a blank dvd, try putting one in with a filesystem on it
[05:54] <Hackmo> dabaR: when I put the dvd in the drive an icon comes on the desktop
[05:54] <Hackmo> levander: it's not a blank dvd
[05:54] <levander`> bob2: like the type of writing you need to write to a dvd?
[05:54] <dabaR> simple: i think fstab has nothing to do with what you are trying to do, byut then again, I am not sure what you are trying to do other than adding a boot entry to grub, which would be done in /boot/grub/menu.lst. Also, I am not very knowledgeraqble </disclaimer>
[05:55] <simple> yeah
[05:55] <bob2> Last_in_Line: no, the postgresql package contains the daemon
[05:55] <bob2> levander`: no, not need
[05:55] <simple> i wasn't so familiar
[05:55] <bob2> you can, tho
[05:55] <simple> with that concept
[05:55] <simple> but got it now
[05:55] <simple> you're to me.. for i didn't know
[05:55] <dabaR> Hackmo: I never saw an option to play the dvd in there. When inserted, the dvds should start a media player program.
[05:55] <nariman> Razor-X
[05:55] <yccheok> hi, may i noe anyone have experience of migrating code for pthread (LinuxThread) to NTPL?
[05:55] <bob2> yccheok: #c
[05:55] <mknisely> I'm not a fan of the media player in Ubuntu.  I compile mplayer and use that to play my DVDs.
[05:55] <bob2> yccheok: but you shouldn't have to modify anything
[05:55] <Hackmo> dabaR: it's not a movie, it's a dvd disk with mp3's on it
[05:55] <dabaR> simple: good luck.
[05:55] <bob2> mknisely: mplayer is part of ubuntu, too
[05:56] <dabaR> and you want to play it?
[05:56] <kozlyk> can someone either help with samba, or point me to good reads?
[05:56] <mknisely> Bob, not that I've seen...
[05:56] <Last_in_Line> ok, hopefully today I can get that website to work... lol
[05:56] <dabaR> or open it, or mount it?
[05:56] <bob2> mknisely: well, it is, in multiverse
[05:56] <neiras> Hey, everybody - here's a laugh courtesy of Windows Vista: http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/winvista_b1_47.jpg
[05:56] <dabaR> open it, ok, wel....
[05:56] <mknisely> Bob:  I do not believe that is correct, but I'll look again.
[05:56] <dabaR> do this. open a terminal, and type in ls /media/cdrom0
[05:57] <dabaR> do this. open a terminal, and type in ls /media/cdrom1
[05:57] <levander`> bob2: the README.Debian for udftools says that "UDF (not packet writing) support is in kernels 2.4 and later".  So, I guess this means I can use the UDF file system, but not write it to dvd's?
[05:57] <dabaR> to see if there are files shown.
[05:57] <Last_in_Line> Oh, is there a player for mpegs or mp3's? I can play cdroms is all on here
[05:57] <selinium> what is the opposite to apt-get install?
[05:57] <jowi> selinium, apt-get remove
[05:57] <michael__> How do I hide rhythmbox in the taskbar?
[05:57] <selinium> jowi: cheers
[05:57] <dabaR> Hackmo: any files?
[05:58] <dabaR> michael__: hide? like place it there instead of closing?
[05:58] <dabaR> michael__: gnome-panel, btw.
[05:58] <mknisely> Bob2 : Did a quick look on my Warty box and came up empty.
[05:58] <mknisely> DNS management is my question.  What's the killer app other than a text editor.
[05:58] <Hackmo> dabaR: what?
[05:58] <michael__> dabaR, I want it minimized, but not to show up in the panel...
[05:59] <Last_in_Line> also I supposedly install about 70 games from the menu & only a couple showed up in games
[05:59] <michael__> dabaR, like gaim...
[05:59] <eth42> I just started an update, and there are loads of files updated from backports. Is this a good idea? I mean are those security updates or feature updates? (I'd prefer to have security updates only)
[05:59] <dabaR> michael__: gaim shows up in the panel.
[05:59] <dabaR> Hackmo: did you do what I told you?
[06:00] <Razor-X> eth42: why not comment out backports and update then?
[06:00] <dabaR> open a terminal, and type in ls /media/cdrom0, open a terminal, and type in ls /media/cdrom1
[06:00] <frank> eth42: mostly feature updates. I don't update unnecessarily using backports
[06:00] <eth42> Razor-X: ok
[06:00] <dabaR> Hackmo: ^ that will tell y ou if there are files on the dvd.
[06:00] <bob2> levander`: you don't need to packet write to dvds
[06:00] <michael__> dabaR, gaim is only visible in the notification area on my desktop...
[06:00] <bob2> you're mxiing those two things up
[06:00] <bob2> mknisely: indeed, not in warty
[06:01] <michael__> Last_in_Line, rhythmbox?
[06:01] <GNULinuxer> truz24, Hello!
[06:01] <dabaR> michael__: screenshots?
[06:01] <Hackmo> dabaR: when I do ls /media/cdrom0 it doesn't show any files and for cdrom1 it says doesn't exist
[06:01] <levander`> bob2: can I mount them like regular partitions without packet writing?
[06:02] <Earered> Last_in_Line, not all package have an entry in the menu, simply open a terminal and type the name of the soft to use it (and if you want to add an entry in the menu, smeg can help you)
[06:02] <dabaR> Hackmo: how many drives do you have?
[06:02] <michael__> dabaR, if you tell me how... fine. (:-)
[06:02] <truz24> how do you change the time zone in ubuntu via cmd line /
[06:02] <GNULinuxer> Nikopol, Hello!
[06:02] <Hackmo> dabaR: one
[06:02] <dabaR> Cant remember ion ubuntu, in the top menus you have take a screenshot under places, or something like that.
[06:02] <dabaR> Hackmo: ok, well, is there a dvd icon on your desktop?
[06:03] <levander`> bob2: like regular paritions, meaning modifying random files, etc.  Not just write an image to them.
[06:03] <Hackmo> dabaR: yeah
[06:03] <mmoscosa> question... i installed skype but i get an error about a libqt-mt.s.3 erro
[06:03] <nariman> Razor-X?
[06:03] <dabaR> Hackmo: is the disc rw?
[06:03] <mmoscosa> does anyone know what it is?!
[06:03] <dabaR> mmoscosa: tell us the exact error, I think.
[06:03] <Razor-X> nariman: hmmm?
[06:03] <Razor-X> errr, not esh, wow, theres a seperate one tehre
[06:04] <mmoscosa> debaR:  skype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:04] <dabaR> Hackmo: if the dvd is rw, then 100%iits empty.  Under ubuntu what is the recommended way of configuring kernels, moving to newer patches etc?
[06:05] <jowi> mmoscosa, you need to install libqt3c102-mt
[06:05] <mmoscosa> eth42 just download them, ay. ico or .png should do
[06:05] <apokryphos> znh: takes long to load things, has bad reconnect capabilities, not many other potential IRC features. Konversation is better.
[06:05] <dabaR> Hackmo: nice. Well, not sure, it would seem it is empty.
[06:05] <eth42> mmoscosa: I did that, and they're so beatiful that I wonder why someone would deliberately not include them
[06:06] <znh> apokryphos: works awesome for me, it's a good variant of Gaim
[06:06] <apokryphos> znh: Kopete handles other protocols like MSN and AIM a lot better, suffice it to say.
[06:06] <goldfish> znh: irssi !
[06:06] <dabaR> what with nautilus burn opening, and listing files showing no files.
[06:06] <Goek> dabaR, yeah, i needed more than that and therefor found alsamixer
[06:06] <apokryphos> goldfish: I think we can presume that he's got a DE running ;-)
[06:06] <znh> godzirra: I hate copying texts with that
[06:06] <mmoscosa> jowi:    mmoscosa@mmoscosa:~$ sudo dpkg -i libqt3c102-mt
[06:06] <mmoscosa> dpkg: error processing libqt3c102-mt (--install):
[06:06] <mmoscosa>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[06:06] <mmoscosa> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:06] <mmoscosa>  libqt3c102-mt
[06:06] <bob2> levander`: you probably can't
[06:06] <dabaR> Goek: and youre done>?
[06:06] <skalpel> does anyone know of a way to make the sticky notes that appear with the sticky note app *not* always be on top?
[06:06] <Hackmo> dabaR: the disk if defenetly not empy, any idea on what could be wrong?
[06:06] <bob2> mmoscosa: the file is presumably not actually called libqt3c102-mt
[06:06] <dabaR> mmoscosa: did you get this file yet?
[06:06] <apokryphos> znh: seriously, it's worth trying Konvi. Pretty darn good.
[06:06] <bob2> mmoscosa: also, why are you using dpkg for this?
[06:07] <michael__> dabaR, I have one....
[06:07] <dabaR> Hackmo: agreed, it is not empty. No ideas.
[06:07] <znh> apokryphos: Konvers... - what's the full name again
[06:07] <eth42> skalpel: not possible; that's the new behavior; there's a request in bugzilla.gnome.org to restore the old behavior...
[06:07] <dabaR> michael__: post it to the internet.
[06:07] <goldfish> apokryphos: I still use irssi in a DE :)
[06:07] <apokryphos> znh: Konversation. You can just sudo apt-get install
[06:07] <Hackmo> dabaR: ok thanks for your help
[06:07] <mmoscosa> bob2.... thats the comand i was teached to install :P hehe is it not that way?
[06:07] <apokryphos> goldfish: :P
[06:07] <Seveas> mmoscosa, don't paste in here
[06:07] <dabaR> welcom
[06:07] <znh> apokryphos: ok awesome will try
[06:07] <michael__> dabaR, to where?
[06:07] <Seveas> and use apt-get instal libqt3c102-mt
[06:07] <apokryphos> goldfish: but why?
[06:07] <bob2> mmoscosa: nope
[06:07] <goldfish> apokryphos: i just like cli stuff
[06:07] <bob2> mmoscosa: sudo aptitude install libqt3c102-mt
[06:07] <mmoscosa> Seveas ok, sorry, wont do it again :*
[06:07] <dabaR> michael__: use google to find a post pictures for free site
[06:08] <apokryphos> goldfish: less is more 8)
[06:08] <levander`> bob2: well, that's kind of the point of udf, it's a rewrite filesystem for dvdrw's and cdrw's
[06:08] <jowi> bob2, it is called excactly libqt3c102-mt and is located on the install cd
[06:08] <michael__> dabaR, could I send it to you directly within here?
[06:08] <bob2> levander`: indeed
[06:08] <eth42> is there a lean Gnome IRC app? I'm using xchat right now, and it seems quite complicated...
[06:08] <bob2> jowi: yes, I know, but the file itself is not called that
[06:08] <eth42> too much buttons, menus, options, etc
[06:08] <goldfish> apokryphos: yep :)
[06:08] <dabaR> likely not, yo uare free to try. or even likely yes, but I have no clue how.
[06:08] <godzirra> znh: copying texts with what?
[06:08] <mmoscosa> bob2 ohhh, is aptitude command for downloading and installing? and dpkg only for installing?
[06:08] <skalpel> eth42: let me know if it changes, okay?
[06:09] <Sponge_> uuu... Ubuntu doesn't like my palm m130. What can I do to make ubuntu and palm coexist pacifically?
[06:09] <bob2> mmoscosa: just don't use dpkg, but yes
[06:09] <znh> godzirra: irssi, I never get used to the middle mouse button copy&pase
[06:09] <|rockinnerd|> eth42, BitchX
[06:09] <Arnia> eth42: I use gaim for IRC
[06:09] <|rockinnerd|> but it's console
[06:09] <levander`> there's no way to ask the MOTU of the udftools package how to configure udftools for hoary?  I haven't seen anyone on the internet get it working.  But, have found only a few people try.
[06:09] <eth42> skalpel: just look it up in bugzilla
[06:09] <godzirra> ahh.. yeah.. I know what you mean
[06:09] <Arnia> eth42: works very nicely
[06:09] <|rockinnerd|> bitchx = console
[06:09] <znh> trying Konversation now - bye
[06:09] <mmoscosa> bob2 ok, cheers
[06:09] <bob2> levander`: er, of course you can ask them
[06:10] <levander`> bob2: er, how?
[06:10] <bob2> levander`: but asking on the user list first is vastly preferable
[06:10] <dabaR> bob2: why is ubuntu reocgnizing Hackmo's dvd as empty, and it has media(he checked on another comp)?
[06:10] <eth42> Arnia: gaim is ok but it's designed for Instant Messaging; it took me some while to learn how to join a channel when there's no greeting page opened like on freenode
[06:10] <levander`> bob2: is ubuntuforums the user list? I've got a post there.
[06:10] <mmoscosa> one more question... how do i configure a wireless PCI card?!
[06:10] <bob2> levander`: by emailing them? or finding them on irc?
[06:10] <bob2> levander`: no, the forums is not a list
[06:10] <bob2> dabaR: no idea, has he/she filed a bug?
[06:10] <eth42> Arnia: (you have to join a channel via the Buddies list.... doesn't make sense to me)
[06:10] <levander`> bob2: where's the user list, if this is the preferred communications channel
[06:10] <eth42> |rockinnerd|: ok, thanks, I'll try that
[06:11] <bob2> levander`: http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[06:11] <Sponge_> I need help with a palm m130. Any volunteers?
[06:11] <dabaR> bob2: whats with the bugs all the sudden:)
[06:11] <Hackmo> bob2: no i've not filled a bug incase it's just something stupid i'm missing
[06:11] <znh> apokryphos: There ain't MSN in it
[06:11] <bob2> Sponge_: it'd be a lot easier if you just stated your problem
[06:11] <Last_in_Line> postsql fails to start too
[06:11] <apokryphos> znh: of course -- it's just an IRC client.
[06:11] <bob2> Last_in_Line: something is very broken on your system
[06:11] <znh> apokryphos: oh ok, I thought it was a sort of Kopete like
[06:11] <levander`> bob2: i thought the MOTU's worked for debian, the maintainer on the udftools package has a debian email address
[06:12] <brian__> hi bob2
[06:12] <bob2> ah, the polite Mr Brian
[06:12] <apokryphos> znh: oh, nope, sorry. Kopete could be decent enough for you -- just has a little few things that bug me in the IRC
[06:12] <Arnia> eth42: fair enough. I find it more intuitive that way though (given that Jabber chatrooms are the same)
[06:12] <Last_in_Line> Reload?
[06:12] <bob2> how may I be useless today?
[06:12] <Sponge_> bob2: I can't find the /dev/ttyUSB(whatever) on my kernel. I read something about the "udev" stuff, and I modified a file which was called 10-custom (or something like that)...
[06:12] <brian__> im still working on this cedega thing
[06:12] <jowi> bob2, filename is: pool/main/q/qt-x11-free/libqt3c102-mt_3.3.3-7ubuntu3_i38k.deb (my version that is) :-)
[06:12] <Sponge_> bob2: But it didn't worked out...
[06:12] <bob2> levander`: no, MOTU is not related to Debian
[06:12] <brian__> lol
[06:12] <tucoz> Hi, is there a ubuntu-version available with kernel version > 2.6.10?
[06:12] <bob2> levander`: if you want to find out who touched it last, look at the changelog, /usr/share/doc/packagename/
[06:12] <jowi> i meant libqt3c102-mt_3.3.3-7ubuntu3_i386.deb
[06:12] <bob2> tucoz: breezy, but it's very broken
[06:13] <levander`> bob2: the MOTU for a universe package isn't the maintainer of the package listed in the .deb?
[06:13] <bob2> levander`: often
[06:13] <brian__> ahh well just tryin to give myself more incentive to get involved with linux
[06:13] <levander`> bob2: often is not, or often is?
[06:13] <Last_in_Line> Should I reload Ubuntu? or apt-get fix... lol
[06:13] <znh> apokryphos: I think I stick with kopete, I like some global all in one client
[06:13] <Last_in_Line> Nothing is ever easy
[06:14] <bob2> Last_in_Line: explain to the channel exactly what youv'e changed since you installed fom a hoary cd
[06:14] <tucoz> bob2: oh, ok. I just installed debian testing with the 2.6.11 kernel. Is it possible to install using expert mode and install a new kernel during the install process?
[06:14] <brian__> are there less populated rooms for newb tards like me?
[06:14] <apokryphos> znh: yes, that's the advantage of it. Integration is good :)
[06:14] <bob2> levander`: often either way
[06:14] <znh> apokryphos: I agree
[06:14] <bob2> tucoz: yes, but simply
[06:14] <Sponge_> Where is the damned /dev/ttyUSB(whatever) in ubuntu??? --- What can I do to get my palm synched???
[06:14] <Seveas> brian__, this is the channel for newbies to ask newbie questions :)
[06:14] <bob2> Sponge_: that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[06:14] <|rockinnerd|> Sponge_, evolutoin
[06:14] <levander`> Last_in_Line: you're trying some pretty advance stuff for a newb, it's not gonna be easy doing it that way
[06:14] <apokryphos> znh: well, advantage of kde as a whole, I might add :P
[06:14] <tucoz> bob2: simply?
[06:14] <bob2> Sponge_: perhaps it's not being detected, or the driver doesn't know about your model
[06:14] <|rockinnerd|> or kpilot if u have kde
[06:14] <bob2> tucoz: not simply
[06:14] <znh> apokryphos: :/
[06:14] <brian__> yes but i cant even talk to you in red like you did to me
[06:14] <ZibiKebir> i need help getting my wireless usb adapter working, can anybodu help
[06:14] <|rockinnerd|> Sponge_, EVOLUTION
[06:15] <nando_> hello
[06:15] <Seveas> brian__, correct, that's simply impossible :)
[06:15] <Seveas> brian__, if I say your name my line will be red
[06:15] <pinucset> hi, one think. I've just installed ubuntu and i've installed nvidia drivers. How can i put 85hz? 60hz arent good... please reply :D
[06:15] <brian__> ahh
[06:15] <Seveas> (in your client)
[06:15] <brian__> novel idead
[06:15] <eth42> ZibiKebir: which one?
[06:15] <znh> wtf who's name is hans here
[06:15] <brian__> idea even
[06:15] <znh> oh ojh
[06:15] <Seveas> if you say my name, that line will be highlighted for me :)
[06:15] <brian__> Seveas thanks
[06:15] <tucoz> bob2: kindof guessed that :) Is it done the debian way? I need a kernel supporting my via sata vt6421, which seems to fail on 2.6.8
[06:15] <Last_in_Line> I downloaded most of the games, I have dancer-irc working & I have been fighting egroupware to run for a couple days, changed php globals to on..
[06:15] <znh> test 123
[06:15] <ZibiKebir> microsoft mn-510
[06:16] <brian__> Seveas, thanks
[06:16] <Seveas> znh, hi :)
[06:16] <pinucset> hi, one think. I've just installed ubuntu and i've installed nvidia drivers. How can i put 85hz? 60hz arent good... please reply :D
[06:16] <brian__> is it red?
[06:16] <|rockinnerd|> pinucset, xorgconfig
[06:16] <Seveas> brian__, no yellow :)
[06:16] <brian__> hmm
[06:16] <|rockinnerd|> oops nvm
[06:16] <eth42> ZibiKebir: ask Microsoft for a free software driver.
[06:16] <Seveas> but that higlighting is configured on the client side :)
[06:16] <eth42> ZibiKebir: sorry
[06:16] <ZibiKebir> i have the driver and i installed it
[06:16] <brian__> ahh
[06:16] <ZibiKebir> hte device shows up in device manager
[06:16] <brian__> thnx for the closure
[06:16] <ZibiKebir> it shows up in lsusb
[06:16] <tucoz> I'll just try the live-cd first
[06:16] <eth42> ZibiKebir: and where's the problem
[06:17] <ZibiKebir> i dont know how to configure it to get it working
[06:17] <tucoz> bye
[06:17] <brian__> heres a question
[06:17] <ZibiKebir> pm me
[06:18] <brian__> first one to anser gets a box of cracker jacks
[06:18] <ToRTuReD_X> GOD DAMMIT
[06:18] <eth42> ZibiKebir: what's the drivers name?
[06:18] <brian__> how do i install cedega and point2play on this ubuntu
[06:18] <ToRTuReD_X> batteries in mouse died agai
[06:18] <ToRTuReD_X> again*
[06:18] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[06:18] <ZibiKebir> linux-wlan-ng
[06:18] <Seveas> brian__, that's a tough one
[06:18] <Seveas> brian__, search for 'cedega howto' on ubuntuforums.org
[06:18] <barry> does any one know why ubuntu doesn't see my scsi drives
[06:18] <ToRTuReD_X> ah screw it
[06:18] <brian__> well that doesnt qualify for the prize
[06:19] <Seveas> I know :)
[06:19] <brian__> i have
[06:19] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i change channels in xchat with the keyboard?
[06:19] <eth42> ZibiKebir: sudo modprobe linux-wlan-ng should load the driver then
[06:19] <Seveas> but it's the best I can do for you ;)
[06:19] <brian__> this is all just so particular
[06:19] <eth42> ZibiKebir: does it?
[06:19] <brian__> which is great once its all configured
[06:19] <|rockinnerd|> ToRTuReD_X, /join #channel
[06:19] <ZibiKebir> no i tried that
[06:19] <brian__> but i love the universal conveinience
[06:19] <eth42> ZibiKebir: sudo lsmod | grep linux-wlan-ng should list the driver
[06:19] <Seveas> brian__, the easy way is to pay the crators of cedega and get an easy-to-install installer
[06:19] <Seveas> creators*
[06:20] <brian__> iv'e already paid for it
[06:20] <ZibiKebir> wait
[06:20] <brian__> i ordered it last night
[06:20] <ZibiKebir> i have a screen shot of it
[06:20] <brian__> i got the 12 month sub
[06:20] <Seveas> brian__, then they should have sent you instructions and an installer
[06:20] <ZibiKebir> you wanna see it?>
[06:20] <brian__> just conf emails on purchase
[06:20] <eth42> ZibiKebir: eh, screenshot??
[06:20] <ZibiKebir> yh
[06:20] <brian__> and there are installers
[06:20] <eth42> ZibiKebir: where?
[06:20] <ZibiKebir> you wanna see it?
[06:20] <brian__> i just dont know which one
[06:20] <ZibiKebir> one sec ill send it to you
[06:20] <redguy> ToRTuReD_X: ctrl-pgup, ctrl-pgdown
[06:20] <Micksa> will breezy go into feature freeze at a set date before release?
[06:21] <Micksa> if so when?
[06:21] <eth42> ZibiKebir: I thought IRC is text-based.
[06:21] <eth42> ZibiKebir: hah!
[06:21] <jowi> brian__, i used the debian installer which worked fine
[06:21] <brian__> oh well
[06:21] <highvoltage> eth42: it is
[06:21] <brian__> really?
[06:21] <ZibiKebir> but i can send you files
[06:21] <brian__> outstandiong
[06:21] <moparfan90_> i am trying to get shared files from a windows computer on my ubuntu computer. does anyone know how to do this? please help me
[06:21] <Seveas> Micksa, it is, Breezy will go through various stages of freezing
[06:21] <eth42> amazing
[06:21] <BollocksMacenzie> Has anyone here installed FuhQuake?
[06:21] <Seveas> in fact, upstream version freeze is already going on now
[06:21] <BollocksMacenzie> Having trouble!
[06:22] <eth42> but it won't be downloaded
[06:22] <brian__> xorg see my video card but ati doenst have drivers
[06:22] <brian__> under linux
[06:22] <jowi> brian__, i need to bott my other pc though to make sure i'm not lying to you. the installer will put shortcuts for you in the gnome menu.
[06:22] <eth42> although I accepted
[06:22] <brian__> which is strange
[06:22] <Micksa> Seveas: I have backed off my laptop from breezy to hoary. I'm wondering when a safe time is to upgrade again :)
[06:22] <moparfan90_> i am trying to get shared files from a windows computer on my ubuntu computer. does anyone know how to do this? please help me
[06:22] <ph8> initrd errors every time i try to install a kernel
[06:22] <Micksa> (I'm getting other problems with hoary)
[06:22] <ph8> in the install
[06:22] <ph8> any ideas on how to fix it/
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> brian__,  hmm what card? my X200 Mobility is in the same boat.
[06:22] <Seveas> Micksa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[06:23] <brian__> damn thats the card i have
[06:23] <ZibiKebir> can anybody else help me
[06:23] <Seveas> ph8, how do you install the kernel?
[06:23] <|rockinnerd|> ubuntu isn't in microsuck.com's list of linuxes
[06:23] <eth42> ZibiKebir: I can help
[06:23] <Seveas> ph8, did you compile it yourself
[06:23] <eth42> ZibiKebir: but no screenshots perhaps...
[06:23] <ph8> i've booted to CD
[06:23] <Seveas> ?
[06:23] <Micksa> ta
[06:23] <BollocksMacenzie> FuhQuake installer keeps saying that I haven't got java virtual machine installed! When I have..
[06:23] <brian__> i have the rs200M
[06:23] <ph8> about 7 options down the install menu
[06:23] <brian__> on the 340M IGP/chipset
[06:23] <ph8> on the install base system option
[06:23] <moparfan90_> seveas, can you help me with getting shared files from my windows comp. to my ubuntu comp.???
[06:23] <brian__> which is confusing
[06:23] <ph8> i get the option to pick one of three kernels, initrd errors on them all
[06:24] <brian__> because if its a 340IGP then why does it say rs200M
[06:24] <rototom> hello together
[06:24] <Seveas> moparfan90_, sure
[06:24] <rototom> which wlan acrd should I buy for my Ubuntu machine?
[06:24] <brian__> i guess the 340 is the name of the BUS
[06:24] <Micksa> wow, that's a lot of freezing :)
[06:24] <Seveas> moparfan90_, menu: places -> connect to server
[06:24] <Seveas> rototom, a card with atheros or intel chip
[06:24] <moparfan90_> yeah...
[06:24] <rototom> Seveas, thanks, what cards are it, or how can I find out?
[06:24] <apokryphos> Seveas: it doesn't mention when the snapshots/arrays are gonna be released. Are they gonna happen?
[06:24] <brian__> Dr_Willis what radeon core is in the 200 M
[06:25] <Seveas> apokryphos, yes, but only when things are in a bit stable state and it's unpredictable when that happens :)
[06:25] <tony> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[06:25] <tony> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[06:25] <tony> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[06:25] <tony> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[06:25] <tony> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[06:25] <tony> none on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=5M,mode=0755)
[06:25] <tony> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[06:25] <tony>  whitch is the my usb2.0 mp3 player -samsung yepp
[06:25] <eth42> rototom: prism2 based if you want free drivers
[06:25] <Seveas> tony, do NOT paste in here
[06:25] <ZibiKebir> i installed the drivers for my wireless usb card, but when i try to change the settings for it mean assign it to my home network, it says no such devcie
[06:26] <olivier> Hi, is there anything simple that I could do to get the full screen resolution that my monitor supports (1680x1050) ?
[06:26] <ZibiKebir> its chipset is prism2
[06:26] <rototom> I want to simply use the card, without installing specific drivers
[06:26] <ZibiKebir> i installed the linux-wlan0ng driver
[06:26] <moparfan90_> seveas, what do i type in the server box??
[06:26] <brian__> would you all say that ubuntu is <or> other Linux OS built for Novice users and which and why
[06:26] <eth42> ZibiKebir: so you try ifup eth0, or what?
[06:26] <Seveas> rototom, these cars will work out of the box
[06:26] <rototom> Are there cards which have drivers already in Ubuntu?
[06:26] <ZibiKebir> no i didnt try it, ill go try right now
[06:26] <Seveas> rototom, the cards listed at madwifi.sourceforge.net have an atheros chip
[06:26] <eth42> rototom: my ipw2100 (Centrino) was installed by default
[06:26] <ZibiKebir> but istn eth0 my ethernet card
[06:26] <rototom> and they run out of the box?
[06:26] <rototom> cool
[06:27] <ph8> ok
[06:27] <ph8> got to the console and found the errors
[06:27] <Seveas> rototom, yes, I use atheros too :)
[06:27] <dimitris> I'd say that ubuntu is a fine linux distro for new users (the apt-get system is ideal for newbies)!
[06:27] <brian__> anyone tried quemu?
[06:27] <ph8> errors were encountered while processing: postfix/at/mailx/mutt/postfix-tls/unbuntu-base
[06:27] <ph8> dkpg error
[06:27] <eth42> ZibiKebir: what did you do, ifup eth1, ifup wlan0?
[06:27] <ph8> anyone seen that before?
[06:27] <ZibiKebir> i didnt do anythign
[06:27] <ZibiKebir> idont know what to do
[06:27] <ZibiKebir> thats what im saying
[06:27] <moparfan90_> seveas, it said "sorry cannot display content of this folder"    what sould i do?
[06:28] <brian__> you see my apt get always returns with permission errors
[06:28] <brian__> how can I  get superadmin rights all the time?
[06:28] <Seveas> moparfan90_, did you give that menu the correct authentication information (user/pass)
[06:28] <brian__> without having to specify for each ap
[06:28] <Seveas> brian__, sudo -i
[06:28] <moparfan90_> seveas, no
[06:28] <Seveas> that will give you a root terminal
[06:28] <michael__> dabaR, I got the solution... Interested?
[06:28] <dimitris> I am a new user and never had any problems with my ubuntu. I use su apt-get install anything i want!
[06:29] <Seveas> moparfan90_, then do so ;) (hang on)
[06:29] <michael__> dabaR: single left click on the icon in the notification area... (:-O)
[06:29] <olivier> is there a tool to see the hardware detected by ubuntu?
[06:29] <dimitris> Never liked any other distro i tried so far. Ubuntu is by far the best one so far!
[06:29] <Seveas> moparfan90_, select windows share from the menu, for server type in the ip-address of the windows machine, for share the name of the share. for username your account on that machine
[06:30] <moparfan90_> seveas, theres no area for password?????
[06:30] <Seveas> moparfan90_, it will ask for one
[06:30] <brian__> thats cool dimitris but even for the newest users like me :), it can be a painstaking task to even LEARN
[06:30] <moparfan90_> ok
[06:30] <moparfan90_> seveas, what do i type for share??
[06:30] <dabaR> wow
[06:31] <ph8> can anyone help me with this install?
[06:31] <dimitris> brian__ have you tried any other distros that are tagged as user friendly like mandriva, fedora or suse?
[06:31] <dos000> anyone explain why when i do netstat -plate i get "tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:32846     <IP_ADDRESS>:www       TIME_WAIT  root       0          -" i dont have connections to google as root
[06:31] <brian__> i have not
[06:31] <dimitris> Never got them to work like i wanted (i would solve one problem and i would face 10 new :-) )
[06:32] <brian__> would it be better to start on a differnet OS?
[06:32] <holycow> brian__, for what purpose?
[06:32] <levosyan> hi
[06:32] <python> i would say there are many linux distros like Ubuntu now
[06:32] <dimitris> The unofficial ubuntu guide was a very good place for me when i started using ubuntu and helped me a lot!
[06:32] <holycow> ubuntu is as easy as it gets
[06:32] <moparfan90_> seveas, what do i type for shared????
[06:32] <python> Fedora aintmuch different
[06:33] <holycow> python, there are no distros LIKE ubuntu
[06:33] <ph8> I'm going to have to use debian unless someone can help me :/
[06:33] <Seveas> moparfan90_, the name of the Share
[06:33] <moparfan90_> seveas, whats that mean?
[06:33] <python> id argue with tht
[06:33] <python> holycow
[06:33] <Seveas> moparfan90_, the name you gave to the shared folder in windows
[06:33] <|rockinnerd|> ph8,what's the problem
[06:33] <moparfan90_> oo
[06:33] <brian__> I am just so fed up with Microsoft and their territorial BS with this new WGA and all
[06:33] <ph8>  errors were encountered while processing: postfix/at/mailx/mutt/postfix-tls/unbuntu-base
[06:33] <ph8> dkpg error
[06:33] <python> MEPIS, Fedora,
[06:33] <|rockinnerd|> !wga
[06:33] <ubotu> |rockinnerd|: I give up, what is it?
[06:33] <Seveas> moparfan90_, alternatively try this command: nautilus network://
[06:33] <ph8> in the 'install base files' option in the installer
[06:33] <dimitris> Fedora comes with a ton of stuff you'll probably never need and i think it slows the whole system down
[06:34] <holycow> python, fedora is not a distro, its a beta experiment
[06:34] <Seveas> (in a shell)
[06:34] <olivier> mmm, why does it look like I don't know the root password?
[06:34] <holycow> fedora is utterly unuseable
[06:34] <olivier> right after installing
[06:34] <dimitris> For a new user messing with services that start on boot maybe a problem
[06:34] <Seveas> olivier, because there is none :)
[06:34] <|rockinnerd|> ph8, is it hoary, warty, or breezy?
[06:34] <python> well yes its on cutting edge,
[06:34] <Seveas> olivier: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:34] <brian__> I run a computer store and if I can configure and run linux distros that are user friendly I will encourage my customers to make the switch
[06:34] <ph8> |rockinnerd|: hoary
[06:34] <Seveas> read that, it explains why :)
[06:34] <holycow> mepis, yeah okay thats okay, it has some neat configuration utilities
[06:34] <Despeeh> oliver there is root terminal
[06:34] <Despeeh> open it and type passwd
[06:34] <holycow> python, *cough* bullshit *cough*
[06:34] <holycow> :)
[06:34] <brian__> but it will take much time for me to learn but I am willing to
[06:34] <olivier> ha, thanks :)
[06:34] <holycow> ubuntu is cutting edge :)
[06:34] <Seveas> Despeeh, do NOT advise people to do that...
[06:34] <python> I think Ubuntu is great too
[06:34] <dimitris> Then you should go for ubuntu
[06:35] <|rockinnerd|> ph8, perhaps your media is corrupt
[06:35] <zAo^> xfce4: Depends: xfwm4-themes (>= 4.2.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:35] <zAo^> :(
[06:35] <|rockinnerd|> try re-burning the cd
[06:35] <ph8> well looking at the errors
[06:35] <Despeeh> seveas ok
[06:35] <python> the best but i think all have a purpose
[06:35] <ph8> unbuntu-base depends on at; however:
[06:35] <ph8> Package at is not configured yet
[06:35] <holycow> python, i'm not sayin ubuntu is 'best' or anything of the sort, it is what it is, by mandriva is not ubuntu and vice versa
[06:35] <ph8> you think that looks like corrupt media?
[06:35] <Seveas> ph8, that's a corrupt CD
[06:35] <ph8> oh
[06:35] <Seveas> check the md5sum of the iso before burning
[06:35] <Seveas> and burn slowly (like 4x)
[06:35] <ph8> will get back to you with that in a second
[06:35] <moparfan90_> seveas, it said Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Shared Documents".
[06:35] <ph8> what's the sum?
[06:35] <moparfan90_> seveas, what sould i do???
[06:35] <olivier> what is the command to configure X?
[06:36] <phixion> does quake 3 work out of the box in ubuntu?
[06:36] <Seveas> olivier, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:36] <holycow> python, maybe i'm splitting hairs, okay there ARE a lot of distros going after the same type of user then
[06:36] <holycow> :)
[06:36] <brian__> basically 70% of my customers just need a computer for emailing and chat and internet
[06:36] <olivier> thanks again :)
[06:36] <Seveas> moparfan90_, you should find out if that share really exists on the windows machine
[06:36] <brian__> and I think its more than possible to convert them
[06:36] <|rockinnerd|> moparfan90_, have you logged in as one of your windows accounts?
[06:36] <python> to be honest  my main reason too choose ubuntu was its philosophy or vision
[06:36] <holycow> brian__, ditto
[06:36] <brian__> especially if I am telling them its what should be used
[06:36] <moparfan90_> it didnt ask me for a password
[06:36] <python> of using pure free software
[06:37] <dimitris> Like i told you using ubuntu guide will get you doing those things in no time
[06:37] <dimitris> Even for the new user
[06:37] <holycow> python, mine was BECAUSE its basically debian with some elbow grease put into it for the desktop
[06:37] <phixion> most linux distros do that python :o
[06:37] <Seveas> python, multiverse / restricted are not pure free ;)
[06:37] <python> i agree
[06:37] <python> Debian tweaked
[06:37] <|rockinnerd|> moparfan90_, type samba @ a terminal prompt
[06:37] <holycow> not 'tweaked'
[06:37] <python> and a good job too
[06:37] <holycow> polished
[06:37] <holycow> tweaked to me kinda smells of 'fork'
[06:37] <python> ok
[06:38] <holycow> i love the fact they actually freeze off of debian it self every 6 months
[06:38] <python> i meant in regrads to install
[06:38] <holycow> very important to me, maybe not others
[06:38] <brian__> I want them to be happy, I want to be able to say "No you dont need an AntiVirus, thats only with Windows"
[06:38] <holycow> python, install is the same, they both use di
[06:38] <holycow> all that changes is the default repositories
[06:38] <python> sure but debian takes you few a few other processes
[06:38] <deFrysk> brian__, inti virus might be handy also in linux
[06:38] <brian__> Oh no you dont need to worry about installing office programs or chat clients, its all right here
[06:38] <Seveas> holycow, but ubuntu picks a lot of sane defaults where debian asks questions
[06:38] <deFrysk> anti
[06:38] <holycow> python, no it doesnt
[06:38] <xinel> hey guys i have the weirdest problem and ive been reading the ubuntuforums for hours, when i boot into gnome there is two desktops one above the other. I find that changing the resolution fixes it but the resolution will not stay. Ive made the res i want the only one in xorg.conf and even set it in panel any ideas?
[06:39] <holycow> okay, maybe i forgot all the debian questions
[06:39] <holycow> haha python i'm sorry i'm sounding like a prick, i don't mean to
[06:39] <brian__> really there are virus issues with linux?
[06:39] <salil> hey.. people.... how can i install PERL.. which package is it..there're so many of them..
[06:39] <Seveas> brian__, not that much, due to the nature of linux security
[06:39] <Seveas> salil, it's installed by default
[06:39] <holycow> brian__, i have not heard of anyone ever finding a virus definition in the wild
[06:39] <brian__> holycow , NICE
[06:40] <holycow> if anyone is going to get a virus its the lindows folks tho
[06:40] <dimitris> Well i was a windows user for a very long time. Now the only reason i log in windows is to play leisure suit larry and that because i was too lazy :-) to see if it works in cedega!
[06:40] <python> Is anyone taking advantage of LAMP on there Linux box
[06:40] <salil> well.. when i tried to install bluetooth support.. it said that perl was not installed.. !!!
[06:40] <Seveas> holycow, yeah
[06:40] <Seveas> lindows is crap
[06:40] <holycow> they run everything as root
[06:40] <holycow> *grrrr*
[06:40] <Seveas> that SO defauta ALL security...
[06:40] <Seveas> defeats*
[06:40] <Seveas> man my spelling is weird :)
[06:40] <brian__> I mean this could be a total revolution, the ease of use is unbelievable
[06:40] <holycow> dimitris, :) cool, the switch isn't always easy, sometimes it is, welcome :)