[13:53] <smartboyhw> Gee thx zequence for the testimonial:)
[14:56] <smartboyhw> len-1304, consider writing me a testimonial?
[16:06] <len-1304> WOW fancy new software updater.
[18:17] <holstein> ok.. how do we set cpu freq?
[18:18] <holstein> we, meaning, not me.. not with 'sudo cpufreq-set -r -g performance'
[18:19] <len-1304> holstein, Not sure what you mean... the we not me thing.
[18:20] <len-1304> It has to be done in root.
[18:20] <len-1304> It has to be done per core
[18:20] <holstein> like, how can a new user, not a programmer, coming to ubuntustudio do something that needs to be done
[18:20] <holstein> simply
[18:20] <holstein> with a GUI
[18:20] <holstein> like we could in gnome2
[18:21] <holstein> i think that is something a moderately advanced user might want
[18:21] <len-1304> holstein, I think the first step is to set the default to user
[18:21] <holstein> len-1304: you mean, default control?
[18:22] <len-1304> There are a number of cpu freq modes. There in ondemand, conservative, performance etc.
[18:23] <len-1304> There is also a user mode.
[18:23] <len-1304> There is a thing called xfce4-cpufreq-plugin
[18:24] <holstein> i install that
[18:25] <holstein> but it cant change anything
[18:25] <holstein> its a nice GUI too
[18:25] <len-1304> All it can do right now with ondemand is monitor, but if set to userfreq I think it can.
[18:25] <len-1304> Let me test.
[18:26] <holstein> len-1304: i dont understand how to set to "userfreq".. i think that is the issue im having
[18:27] <len-1304> holstein, Can't even try it on this computer :P
[18:27] <len-1304> It runs full speed always
[18:28] <len-1304> Be back in a minute.
[18:28] <holstein> len-1304: no worries.. i can run th CLI command
[18:28] <holstein> i just think its a regression that we might be able to address
[18:30] <Len-nb> OK, this computer does the right stuff
[18:32] <Len-nb> cpufreq-info shows that the governors are:
[18:32] <Len-nb> conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance
[18:34] <Len-nb> So cpufreq-set -c 0 -g USERSPACE sets things to user space
[18:34] <holstein> OH.. lemme try that
[18:35] <Len-nb> Well it doesn't let the gui change speed.
[18:36] <holstein> yeah... thats what i think we need
[18:36] <holstein> like in gnome2
[18:36] <holstein> from like ubuntu 7.10 and on
[18:36] <holstein> just recently regressed to a commandline only task
[18:38] <Len-nb> OK even as a userspace I still need sudo to change speed.
[18:38] <holstein> what does "userspace" do then?
[18:38] <Len-nb> What I did.... :)  is I set up runlevel 2 as ondemend and runlevel 3 as performance
[18:39] <Len-nb> I have a command that can from userspace change runlevel
[18:39] <holstein> i used to just install an applet
[18:39] <holstein> i remember giving it permission
[18:39] <Len-nb> run level 3 is "audio clean"
[18:39] <holstein> thats a great idea
[18:40] <holstein> my studio machine hasnt been used much
[18:40] <Len-nb> I have an icon that gives three modes, desktop, audio, video and graphics
[18:40] <holstein> i had it uni-tasking
[18:40] <holstein> i hooked it up to my new-ish TV and now im using it more
[18:40] <holstein> daily even
[18:41] <holstein> i'll be fine setting some shorcuts on the desktop to run the modes
[18:41] <Len-nb> In audio mode, cron, anacrom, atd, mysql and my wifi are shut off
[18:41] <Len-nb> Oh and the cpu is performance
[18:42] <Len-nb> I can also have the same utility shut off PA-jack bridging
[18:43] <Len-nb> But I have found with the rest of the things I did, I don't really need to.
[18:44] <holstein> we shoud talk about working that into a GUI for the repos
[18:44] <holstein> a studio specific thing
[18:44] <holstein> things that we shouldnt do by default
[18:44] <Len-nb> I wrote it using: alltray, tk/tcl, bash and the polkit.
[18:45] <Len-nb> And upstart of course.
[18:46] <Len-nb> I would like to change the gui to python before I try releasing it, as tk doesn't play well with systray stuff
[18:48] <Len-nb> holstein, cadence, from falktx, looks like it will be able to do some of this. It is headed in that direction.
[18:48] <Len-nb> Also the controls app zequence is working on.
[18:48] <Len-nb> I am not sure a third app is a good thing :)
[18:50] <Len-nb> Still I do have a command line that works now... it does need sudo file editing to configure it to the system though.
[18:54] <Len-nb> holstein, The thing to remember with performance mode is that many computers are noisier because the CPU fans are on full all the time.
[18:54] <Len-nb> Sometimes very good performance can be had with a lower than full speed cpu that is not changing speed.
[18:56] <Len-nb> I found for example, I could get no xruns on this netbook running at half speed, but not with ondemand.
[19:06] <holstein> mine is quiet though
[19:06] <holstein> most of the time i have it on on demend
[19:06] <holstein> demand*
[19:06] <holstein> the studio rig
[19:06] <holstein> i just like to bump it up to track
[19:40] <Len-nb> holstein, I have a bad wireless IF. My desktop is much better. The netbook would hardly be called a "pro audio" platform.
[19:40] <Len-nb> However, it does show up weakness in a system


[00:24] <bluesabre> welcome back everyone :)
[00:33] <bluesabre> Please let me know if there is anything that needs to be done for parole to be approved. The hide-menubar setting that was discussed earlier only makes the existing hide-menubar functionality persistent across sessions. That setting is non-default.
[00:33] <bluesabre> and now with a few hightable pings...
[00:33] <bluesabre> doko, infinity, Laney: Please let me know if there is anything that needs to be done for parole to be approved. The hide-menubar setting that was discussed earlier only makes the existing hide-menubar functionality persistent across sessions. That setting is non-default.
[00:34] <bluesabre> I'll be around throughout the evening if there are any questions or if I need to create an last-minute FFe report to move it along
[00:34] <bluesabre> :)
[01:52] <lamont> infinity: yo up?>
[01:52] <lamont> you up, rather?
[01:52] <lamont> or who is my favorite release team person today?
[01:54] <infinity> lamont: I'm sort of here.  What's up?
[01:56] <Ukikie> I thought infinity was our favorite every day.
[01:57] <infinity> Aww.
[02:01] <infinity> lamont: --^
[02:01] <lamont> woot
[02:01] <lamont> thank you kind sir.  I shall sleep in peace tonight
[02:01] <infinity> That makes one of us.
[02:02] <Ukikie> Yeeep.
[02:02] <lamont> infinity: it's entirely possible that I was speaking in hopes, rather than certainty
[02:02] <lamont> I'll make it home and to sleep in about 90 min, and the alarm goes off about 6 hours after that. :9
[05:00] <Logan> is it okay to upload a new version of zimlib that fixes an FTBFS on rebuild? it introduces a rename of the library package for GCC 5, but there are no rdeps, and it's unseeded
[05:01] <Logan> infinity: you around still? ^
[05:02] <infinity> Logan: Just a sync, I assume?
[05:02] <Logan> yep
[05:02] <infinity> Logan: Sounds reasonable to me.
[05:02] <Logan> awesome, thanks!
[08:04] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Laney, cyphermox - Please can someone process this upload request?
[08:04] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-welcome/+bug/1506530
[08:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1506530 in ubuntu-mate-welcome "ubuntu-mate-welcome <IP_ADDRESS>a bug fix release [debdiff attached]" [Undecided,New]
[08:05] <flexiondotorg> I discussed it with cyphermox yesterday in here.
[08:40] <jamespage> morning release team - there is an upload of openvswitch in the unapproved queue which should resolve bug 1314887
[08:40] <ubot2> bug 1314887 in openvswitch "ifupdown hook is missing in upstart script" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314887
[08:40] <jamespage> appreciate that's not directly impacting wily, but it is blocking any testing in the Ubuntu Cloud Archive right now
[09:15] <gilir> hi, is it possible to accept lxappearance-obconf upload ? It should unblock all openbox/obconf packages blocked by proposed-migration, and fix a crash on Lubuntu ISO
[09:33] <Laney> pitti: can you review glib2.0 maybe?
[09:33] <pitti> Laney: argh no diff :)
[09:34] <pitti> ah, the upstream point release
[09:34] <pitti> Laney: did that get any pre-testing?
[09:34] <pitti> it
[09:34] <pitti> 'll trigger a lot of autopkgtests, but they don't cover all the desktop-y aspects
[09:34] <pitti> Laney: i. e. did you run ubuntu with this version for a day or so?
[09:34] <Laney> been running it for a couple of days
[09:34] <Laney> I uploaded it to sid already too
[09:35] <Laney> thanks pitti!
[09:36] <pitti> no worries!
[09:36] <Laney> ah, and that one too, I didn't understand it
[11:59] <pitti> infinity, Laney: uploading langpack spew now
[11:59] <pitti> shall I mass-accept?
[11:59] <pitti> well, what do I ask, we do want them
[11:59] <Laney> :)
[11:59] <Laney> go for it
[12:00] <pitti> Laney: you still have a migration block, right?
[12:00] <Laney> for?
[12:00] <Laney> I had one for compiz and unity which I just killed
[12:00] <pitti> desktop packages?
[12:00] <pitti> Laney: ah, just for those? I was looking at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#unity
[12:00] <pitti> and assumed this would be the generic "final freeze" block
[12:01] <Laney> no, there isn't one of those (yet?)
[12:02] <Laney> I would guess next week once respins happen if we do that
[12:04] <pitti> Laney: my connection is a bit shaky right now; do you mind running this several times in the next 15 mins or so: queue -s wily-proposed -Q unapproved -E accept language-pack-
[12:05] <pitti> I accepted the first hundred or so
[12:06] <Laney> sure, wilco
[12:06] <pitti> thanks
[12:29] <pitti> Laney: uploads finished a while ago, I'm accepting the last batch
[13:32] <Laney> +1
[14:25] <Trevinho> bdmurray: hey, I have this compiz SRU (https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/vivid-rebuild-ddebs/+merge/271931) that is waiting for some time (it's just a no-change rebuild, because of missing ddebs)... So I've been told that the reason of that is that the bug didn't get attached to the ubuntu changelog
[14:25] <Trevinho> what should I do?
[14:35] <bdmurray> Trevinho: it's in -proposed and looks like it is ready to be released, however we don't release on Friday, so ping someone on Monday.
[14:35] <Trevinho> bdmurray: ok, that's fine. thanks for the info
[15:19] <bdmurray> Trevinho: Thinking about it more does it need to move away from -proposed?
[15:19] <Trevinho> bdmurray: I don't think there's rush at this point
[15:20] <Trevinho> indeed it's a blocked silo, but.. not sure
[15:20] <Trevinho> how are the resources atm
[15:20] <bdmurray> Trevinho: I mean regular users don't need the ddebs
[15:21] <Trevinho> bdmurray: ah, yeah... I mostly done it to get e.u.c to work properly and since we had to debug some issues with some users
[15:21] <bdmurray> Trevinho: right and e.u.c will work fine with the packages from -proposed
[15:21] <Trevinho> fair enough
[15:22] <Trevinho> bdmurray: what about ddebs repo?
[15:22] <bdmurray> Trevinho: they should be there too
[15:23] <Trevinho> fine... So that's just enough for me
[15:23] <Trevinho> all I want is to free the silo then
[15:37] <bdmurray> infinity, slangasek: there is a language-pack-ja in T, V -proposed that isn't showing up on the SRU report...
[15:54] <infinity> bdmurray: The sru-report intentionally filters langpacks.
[15:58] <bdmurray> infinity: How / when does the releasing happen then?
[15:59] <infinity> bdmurray: pitti usually takes care of the langpack magic, not sure his criteria.
[17:32] <superm1> cyphermox: just want to make sure you know i uploaded fwupd against yesterday in case you didn't see it.  it's been accepted already
[17:32] <doko> slangasek, infinity: could somebody of you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+bug/1502178 ?
[17:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1502178 in squid3 "update squid from 3.3.8 to 3.3.14" [Undecided,New]
[17:33] <cyphermox>  superm1: hmm?
[17:33] <superm1> fixes an issue with files nestled in a directory
[17:34] <cyphermox> ok
[17:36] <cyphermox> sounds good
[17:38] <superm1> cyphermox: i'm not aware of any other issues (and wasn't aware of this until it got mentioned to me yesterday), do you know of anything else that needs fixing with regards to it?
[17:38] <cyphermox> superm1: nothing I can think of right now
[17:39] <cyphermox> if anything they should be filed as bugs already
[17:39] <superm1> cyphermox: okay.  any luck with the fwupdate dup thing and making sure that patching it doesn't change the EFI binary?
[17:39] <cyphermox> superm1: I haven't been able to get to that yet; there are some bugs I need to fix before I get to it
[17:39] <superm1> okay
[17:40] <cyphermox> I guess I could look tomorrow at the airport
[19:57] <superm1> cyphermox: unfortunately it seems that patch will need some more work, in was working on parsing the file now, but it is causing some other problems that i couldn't identify until i tried it on a real system
[21:47] <superm1> cyphermox: okay that fixes the secondary issue, verified on live hardware ^


[18:48] <iain_> vansihing> still no joy.....tried installing font packs for xorg via synaptic....
[18:48] <eoo> im using ubuntu 13
[18:48] <eoo> gnome
[18:48] <iain_> and restarting x.....
[18:48] <iain_> same problem
[18:48] <eoo> running cinnamon 1.8
[18:48] <proby> eoo , one line
[18:48] <eoo> soz
[18:49] <theadmin> eoo: Cinnamon is not supported
[18:49] <eoo> i know
[18:49] <eoo> how do i edit gdm wallapaper
[18:49] <l057c0d3r> eoo  there is no actual tool to do it
[18:49] <Y_Bishry> hi
[18:49] <l057c0d3r> and there are two different places that need to be edited
[18:49] <killer> theadmin: ubuntu dependency says linux-kernel-headers depends onlibc(2.14) while folks at ##linux says it doesn't depend on it
[18:49] <eoo> where can i locate the file
[18:49] <proby> eoo , gdm version ?
[18:49] <theadmin> eoo: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-customize-gdm-36-login-lock.html -- see here.
[18:50] <l057c0d3r> first get gdm3setup
[18:50] <eoo> latest i think
[18:50] <eoo> ive got that
[18:50] <eoo> i waana view the background-image file for gdm
[18:50] <proby> eoo , http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+edit+gdm+theme+cinnamon
[18:50] <l057c0d3r> k what i did was chose one of the default backgrounds..  and then went into /usr/share/backgrounds/gnome..  and replaced the selected one with the actual picture i had
[18:51] <l057c0d3r> then replace the noisetexture.png in /usr/share/gnome-shell-theme/ with the same image only png version in
[18:51] <eoo> dude im running ubuntu
[18:52] <eoo> thanks <l057c0d3r>
[18:52] <CYN> I am trying to access a Time Machine Mac partition to get a file off there. I have managed to find a script which apparently has worked for some people but I am clueless at trying to get the directories correct in the script so it works. Basically I need to get one file from that hard drive, and I need help doing so using Ubuntu. Help would be appreciated
[18:52] <l057c0d3r> then edit the .css file in /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/  search for the noiseytexture.png in that file
[18:53] <l057c0d3r> and look below it one or two lines..  u will see repeat..  replace with no-repeat
[18:54] <eoo> noisetexture.png does not exist there
[18:54] <bugtraq> yuhuu
[18:54] <mojtaba> Does anybody know rsnapshot utility? I want to backup my server.
[18:54] <mojtaba> I want to do a whole backup
[18:54] <mojtaba> Can anybody help?
[18:55] <l057c0d3r> noise-texture
[18:55] <l057c0d3r> something like that
[18:55] <l057c0d3r> if u do an ls..  u should be able to find the one im talking about
[18:55] <eoo> oh yeah
[18:55] <eoo> i know what u mean
[18:55] <llutz> mojtaba: edit your rsnapshot.conf and add a line like "backup /    yourbackup-target/"
[18:56] <mojtaba> llutz: I want to do a full backup of my server which I have ssh access to it. (mysqls, emails, files, ...)
[18:56] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, looks like a perl script around rsync
[18:57] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: I am pretty new to linux and this is the first time I am doing this task.
[18:57] <lavish> hi all. I've bought a Lenovo B590 which is certified for ubuntu. The OS does not even boot unless acpi=off is provided as a kernel parameter. This happens on both 12.04 and 13.10.
[18:57] <llutz> mojtaba: yes, and if you want to use rsnapshot for it, you have to configure it
[18:57] <mojtaba> llutz: can you help me for its configuration?
[18:58] <vsMS> Hi. Can anyone help with this error: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: issue: unable to identify a filesystem in hd1; safety check can't be performed.?
[18:58] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, i always end up doing custom scripts
[18:58] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: How do you do it?
[18:58] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, bash scripting
[18:59] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: May I know your way of doing it?
[18:59] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, its usually like: a. copy from a to backup/a and b to backup/b b. export mysql databases to backup/mysql ... ect c. compress everything
[18:59] <killer> can u guys help me with this "dpkg-deb: error: control directory has bad permissions 700 (must be >=0755 and <=0775)
[19:00] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, but iam not a server expert
[19:00] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: May I have those commands in detail?
[19:00] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, hold on ...
[19:01] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: Thanks
[19:01] <vsMS> killer: it looks like the deb you're trying to build has wrong permissions in debian/control
[19:01] <llutz> killer: chmod 755 path/to/your/project/control
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  like so sudo rsync -avv --progress --delete /home/username [remote user@remote ip address]:/home/username/backup
[19:02] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Does this backup the databases also?
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  thhe whole of /home
[19:03] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Is the database available in the home? Because I could not find them there.
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  the people in #ubuntu-server can tell you better

[19:04] <eoo> ur awesome :p
[19:04] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[19:04] <killer> i dun know but it is unable to change them , even as sudo user
[19:04] <l057c0d3r> yoru welcome eoo
[19:04] <l057c0d3r> here's some fun..  as a normal user  type apt-get moo
[19:04] <vanishing> killer: elaborate?
[19:04] <vanishing> killer: error messages?
[19:05] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, keep in mind that this is specific for my purposes, but you should easily hack around that, its pretty simple and direct.
[19:05] <bjd> hello
[19:05] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: Yes, thanks
[19:05] <bjd> i have been out of linux for a while now
[19:05] <eoo> hmm
[19:05] <bjd> i'm running ubuntu and i need to install PHP that I download from the php website
[19:05] <eoo> lool
[19:06] <bjd> but it is not a standard .deb file
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> bjd  use tasksel to install php et al
[19:06] <bjd> how does one install software from binary
[19:07] <killer> vanishing: after changingg the permissions , it still is saying "dpkg-deb: error: control directory has bad permissions 700 (must be >=0755 and <=0775) "
[19:07] <l057c0d3r> well if its a .deb file....  gdebi works rather nice
[19:07] <bjd> MonkeyDust, thanks will have a look at tasksel
[19:07] <vanishing> killer: what command are you executing?
[19:07] <l057c0d3r> oh just seen that its not a standard deb  heh
[19:08] <killer> chmod 755 tmpdir/DEBIAN/control , also tried it as  a  superuser
[19:08] <killer> dpkg -b tmpdir linux.deb
[19:08] <bjd> MonkeyDust, I don't have tasksel installed?
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> bjd  it's in the repos, instal it like any other package
[19:09] <brontosaurusrex_> bjd, visit ubuntu server docs
[19:10] <bjd> thanks
[19:10] <brontosaurusrex_> bjd, probably https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[19:11] <bjd> brontosaurusrex, thanks.
[19:14] <bjd> brontosaurusrex, once installed - can I upgrade the mysql and php versions?
[19:15] <brontosaurusrex_> bjd, they will be upgraded to whatever is the latest version in repos
[19:15] <bjd> brontosaurusrex, thanks.
[19:16] <brontosaurusrex_> bjd, dunno about manual upgrades, never done that on a server
[19:33] <treehau55> hello, can anyone provide me a stock, default, never edited before nsswitch.conf that comes on a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04?
[19:34] <th0r> treehau55, have you looked in /usr/share/base-files?
[19:37] <treehau55> ill check
[19:38] <treehau55> yeah its there, the problem is, I installed some crappy software that modified the nsswitch conf and I am not sure if this is the stock copy or not
[19:38] <th0r> treehau55, the modifiled file should be in /etc
[19:39] <treehau55> awesome
[19:39] <treehau55> lets see if this solves my problem
[19:39] <treehau55> i have had port 80 issues ever since I installed this gem
[19:40] <mustmodify> Does anyone here have experience with chroot?
[19:41] <bestdnd> is there a way to have the terminal at alt+f1 run utop on startup?
[19:41] <th0r> !anyone
[19:41] <mustmodify> because I didn't want to flood you with a long explanation, especially if it would produce no results.
[19:41] <mustmodify> But ok here goes.
[19:43] <bestdnd> is there a way to have the terminal at alt+f1 run htop on startup?
[19:44] <utfans05> !htop
[19:44] <alecb> is there a way to get dzen2 xft support without having to manually compile it?
[19:44] <histo> treehau55: the only diff is the hosts line: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[19:44] <mustmodify> I am using chroot to jail certain SFTP **note, sftp not ftp** users who wish to deposit sensitive data onto my server to have it processed. I created a group, sftp, whose users are automagically chrooted. I have an app, running as "regular" (not root, not chroot) user "app". The app wishes to process those files and then delete them. But because of the permissions on that directory (which I thought when setting this up were requirements to get chroot to
[19:45] <histo> alecb: yes
[19:45] <brontosaurusrex> bestdnd, put htop into .bashrc ?
[19:45] <histo> alecb: You'd have to to set it to auto login then edit your bash_profile or bashrc to run htop on start if it auto logged in on tty1
[19:45] <vsMS> Hi. Can anyone help with this error: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: issue: unable to identify a filesystem in hd1; safety check can't be performed.?
[19:46] <alecb> histo: I think you confused me with bestdnd ?
[19:46] <roasted> Question - I'm noticing that within the touchpad menu of system settings that none of the settings I adjust (in terms of the sliders) stay in place when I close and reopen. Is anybody else seeing this, or am I doing something wrong?
[19:46] <th0r> vsMS, a guess would be that you have /dev/hd1 in the grub config, when it should be something like /dev/hda1 or /dev/hdb1
, where is this file? how do i set it to login?
[19:47] <histo> bestdnd: let me find you some linkage
[19:47] <bestdnd> thanks
[19:48] <iceroot_> bestdnd: ~/.bashrc
[19:48] <iceroot_> bestdnd: but dont!!! put htop in that file
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> bestdnd, cat ~/.bashrc
[19:48] <vsMS> th0r: no, I don't have /dev/hda1 or /dev/hdb1. In my system I have two 3TB disks without any partition on it. They are configured as raid1 and containing a LVM
[19:49] <th0r> raid....would have been nice to know that
[19:49] <wN> and now you know ◕‿◕
[19:49] <histo> bestdnd: http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-auto-login-and-startx-without-a-display-manager-in-debian.html   same principal
[19:49] <maui> is it true that you are in danger of windows virus if you use wine?
[19:50] <bekks> vsMS: The grub device hd1 is the equivalent of /dev/sdb
[19:50] <maui> what about hackers? do i need a fireweall?
[19:50] <iceroot_> maui: you are not in danger
[19:50] <maui> yea yea everyone say that iceroot
[19:50] <iceroot_> maui: then why asking?
[19:50] <maui> how do you know that ppl out there wont make viruses for ubuntu?!
[19:50] <maui> as they make for windows
[19:50] <iceroot_> !virus | maui
[19:51] <maui> thats not a logical answer is it? ''you dont need it... ''--> BUT why not?!
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> maui  because, if someone would make one, 1000 others woud find and cure it
[19:51] <iceroot_> maui: you cant know, of course there can be virus but
[19:51] <maui> oh..
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> maui  before it can do harm
[19:51] <iceroot_> maui: its not an issue in the GNU/Linux world
[19:52] <maui> so programmers keep fixing ubuntu viruses? is that what you say?
[19:52] <vsMS> ubottu: trust me: I get reports of about 400 virus events on our linux systems per day ;-)
[19:52] <yeats> maui: you can install clamav if you're paranoid
[19:52] <iceroot_> maui: they keep fixing bugs and exploits
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> maui, Name the advantages for making badware for linux, people do it foe reasons, usually income.
[19:52] <vanishing> vsMS: you are talking to a bot..
[19:52] <iceroot_> maui: just install the latest security updates and then everything is fine
[19:52] <maui> malice
[19:52] <maui> ppl make viruses to steal info
[19:53] <iceroot_> maui: you have a technical support question?
[19:53] <maui> how do i install the latest security updates?
[19:53] <iceroot_> maui: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:53] <iceroot_> maui: or use the software center which is offering you updates automaticly
[19:53] <yeats> maui: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-harden-desktop/ - an older article, but the programs and setup haven't changed - not necessary for casual use, but sounds like you have more concerns than most
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> maui, What is the % of people using open sources and is this a profitable pursuit, in comparison to MS.
[19:54] <iceroot_> wilee-nilee: of course it is
[19:54] <iceroot_> wilee-nilee: Linux is the most used system in the world (expect desktops)
[19:54] <iceroot_> wilee-nilee: smartphones, router, server, embeded systems and so on
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> iceroot, Yu miss my point here
[19:54] <vsMS> th0r: do you have an idea about my issue?
[19:54] <roasted> Question - I'm noticing that within the touchpad menu of system settings that none of the settings I adjust (in terms of the sliders) stay in place when I close and reopen. Is anybody else seeing this, or am I doing something wrong?
[19:55] <alecb> can someone just mention my nick? -- configuring my client
[19:55] <iceroot_> alecb:
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> alecb  i love you
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> that all right?
[19:56] <bekks> MonkeyDust: We wont tell your wife ;)
[19:56] <alecb> thanks
[19:57] <Guest40744> maui: most virus infections come trough installing infected software. If you limit yourself to only install software through ubuntu software center it is very very likely that you won't get any virus from there. Software there come from source code, or thrustworthy sources, is carefully tested...
[19:57] <brontosaurusrex> Guest40744, he is talking about wine
[19:58] <Guest40744> maui: the windows world suffers a lot from virus infection because of the default software installation method: you get a software from someone who may have been infected, or download the software from "somewhere" on the internet...
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> and if wine is any good, than it should run viruses as well
[19:58] <iceroot_> brontosaurusrex: it does
[19:58] <iceroot_> brontosaurusrex: but it will not affect the GNU/Linux system
[19:58] <Guest40744> maui: about viruses coming from wine... I remeber someone testing it from a long time ago
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> no, but it can probably kill a user dir?
[19:59] <iceroot_> brontosaurusrex: it can kill everything which belongs to the user wine is executed
[19:59] <brontosaurusrex> right
[19:59] <iceroot_> brontosaurusrex: because of that you should NEVER use root-shells or something else when not needed
[19:59] <genii-around> If you set some wine drive letter to a real directory the user owns it's entirely possible
[19:59] <Guest40744> but, for a program to infect a linux system coming from wine, it should have been specifically designed for it. Why someone would create and another person actually run it is beyond my mind
[20:00] <Guest40744> it cant do any harm besides your personal data if you don't run it as root
[20:01] <iceroot_> maui: the windows-program which is running inside wine can only access the wine-prefix-dir not your home, because the default that your home can not be accessed
[20:02] <iceroot_> maui: and if you are afraif of wine can kill your system DONT USE WINDOWS-SOFTWARE. Use FOSS software from the ubuntu repos instead. its that easy and i guess everything is said to that topic
[20:02] <netlar> If you trying to shutdown from the login screen and someone is still logged in, there is suppose to be a safety key right?
[20:03] <BluesKaj> maui, http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Why-Linux-Will-Never-Suffer-From-Viruses-Like-Windows/
[20:03] <bekks> netlar: Uhm - no. If root shuts down the box (or someone with the privileges to do so), it will be shut down.
[20:04] <genii-around> iceroot_: If you did something unsafe like put D:  as /home/yourusername conceivably something malicious could wipe it out from in WINE
[20:04] <mustmodify> I am using chroot to jail certain SFTP **note, sftp not ftp** users who wish to deposit sensitive data onto my server to have it processed. I created a group, sftp, whose users are automagically chrooted. I have an app, running as "regular" (not root, not chroot) user "app". The app wishes to process those files and then delete them. But because of the permissions on that directory (which I thought when setting this up were requirements to get chroot to
[20:05] <netlar> bekks: ok, thanks, but I when I try to shutdown at the login screen and I am still logged in, then press the shutdown button from the dialog box, it will hand and I have to manually turn off the machine
[20:05] <iceroot_> genii-around: and when i start my x-session as root, and if i delete my home, and if i execute dd thew wrong way and when i chmod 777 the complete system and so on
[20:06] <bekks> netlar: Then it is actually working - didnt knew that something like that was implemented at all.
[20:06] <genii-around> iceroot_: Yup
[20:06] <netlar> hang*
[20:06] <iceroot_> genii-around: if you do stupid things, hopefully everything will break
[20:06] <iceroot_> genii-around: so that you learn why it was wrong
[20:06] <iceroot_> genii-around: s/you/someone
[20:07] <netlar> bekks: Well not sure it is actually working, becuase I still need to push the power button on the computer to shut it down cause Ubuntu screen just feezes
[20:07] <vanishing> netlar: next time try the magic sysrq key..feels more subtle..:D
[20:07] <bekks> netlar: So the basic information is "my ubuntu freezes when trying to shut it down" - why didnt you tell us that from the beginning? :)
[20:08] <netlar> bekks: sorry for the missinformation
[20:09] <netlar> bekks: I was just reading a post on launch pad about a safety key
[20:09] <bagabuntu> is anyone using 13.04 64 bit?
[20:09] <vanishing> bagabuntu: a lot i think
[20:09] <bagabuntu> vanishing:  are you?
[20:10] <vanishing> bagabuntu: im running 64 13.10
[20:10] <bagabuntu> i need some help
[20:10] <maui> do i have to manually sudo update the rkhunter:(?
[20:11] <iceroot_> maui: sudo update is not for updating packages
[20:11] <bagabuntu> i need siomeone to get me builld-essencials whit all dependicis for 13.04
[20:12] <bagabuntu> vanishing:  i can only dl 13.04 on site
[20:12] <netlar> So no one has tried to shutdown the machine from the login screen when someone is logged in?
[20:13] <vanishing> bagabuntu: ah..can't help you with that...
[20:13] <bagabuntu> ther is no more on cd
[20:13] <vanishing> bagabuntu: yea, i upgraded from 13.04 alpha
[20:13] <bagabuntu> and i can dl packets from internet 1 by 1 but i dont know what
[20:14] <bagabuntu> somone using 13.04 64bite?
[20:14] <usr13> netlar: Does sudo shutdown -now   or   sudo halt  work from tty6
[20:14] <iceroot_> !offline | bagabuntu
[20:14] <vanishing> bagabuntu: i believe you can get that information on launchpad
[20:14] <iceroot_> bagabuntu: alsp packages.ubuntu.com
[20:15] <bagabuntu> ty will try
[20:15] <netlar> usr13: ok, but that is great.  I am just thinking of maybe giving this computer to people that on not that savy with regards to cli
[20:15] <vanishing> bagabuntu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/amd64/build-essential/11.6ubuntu4
[20:15] <vanishing> check the package relationships part at the bottom
[20:15] <netlar> usr13: but thanks for the work around
[20:16] <bagabuntu> ther is no raring hire http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/
[20:16] <proby> !ubottu
[20:18] <vanishing> bagabuntu: huh?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> vanishing, think he meant higher as in more recent
[20:19] <vanishing> BluesKaj: that build should be the most recent one on raring..
[20:19] <vanishing> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/amd64/build-essential/11.6ubuntu4
[20:21] <bagabuntu> vanishing: SOUD I GET Package crossbuild-essential-arm64 or normal?
[20:22] <vanishing> bagabuntu: erm....you just need normal i think
[20:23] <Sanpreet> hello
[20:23] <savio> Sanpreet: hi greetings
[20:23] <netlar> I ran Fedora for a few days, and when I attempted to log out it gave me a new dialog box asking for admin password to shutdown.  That was kind of what I was expecting with Ubuntu
[20:23] <Sanpreet> Do anybody know about bash
[20:23] <th0r> Sanpreet, lots of folks
[20:24] <vanishing> Sanpreet: its the default shell...i think a lot of ppl know it
[20:24] <bagabuntu> vanishing:  omg and half of pacages buils essencal depends  have other packages thet depends
[20:25] <vanishing> bagabuntu: lol..thats why apt-get build-dep is good
[20:25] <vanishing> :D
[20:25] <bagabuntu> i go die
[20:25] <vanishing> bagabuntu: my bad
[20:25] <vanishing> wrong command
[20:26] <Loshki> !ask | Sanpreet
[20:28] <Sanpreet> What is bash script
[20:29] <Sanpreet> what is kernel
[20:29] <genii-around> !cli
[20:29] <th0r> Sanpreet, you might want to start by reading some of the docs on the linux documentation projecxt
[20:29] <Sanpreet> ya
[20:30] <Sanpreet> application of electronics using linux
[20:31] <Sanpreet> how to learn kicad
[20:31] <Sanpreet> Any help
[20:31] <roasted> new kernel broke my suspend <_<
[20:31] <k1l> Sanpreet: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[20:31] <vanishing> Sanpreet: you will have to go on kicad site and research there...
[20:32] <k1l> Sanpreet: for general tech/ubuntu-talk we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:32] <vanishing> roasted: 3.9 kernel?
[20:32] <Sanpreet> what is new in ubuntu 13.04
[20:32] <roasted> vanishing: no, 3.8.0-21 over 3.8.0-19. But cancel that, it seems to be working now that I've rebooted 4 times.
[20:33] <vanishing> roasted: lol..the same thing happened tome today..
[20:33] <roasted> vanishing: suspend broke until you rebooted a few times?
[20:33] <savio> Sanpreet: new kernal new unity stack and lot more
[20:33] <vanishing> upgraded kernel to 3.9.2 pf, and suspend is broken..
[20:33] <vanishing> reboot couple times and its fine again
[20:33] <belgianguy> how do I find out the StartupWMClass
[20:33] <roasted> I hope it stays fine. I'd hate it to be inconsistent about when it suspends and when it doesn't
[20:34] <belgianguy> of an application?
[20:34] <roasted> how long have you been on 3.9.2 vanishing?
[20:34] <vanishing> belgianguy: i think you are in the wrong channel for that question
[20:34] <paolo> list
[20:34] <vanishing> roasted: vanishing is a proud user of 3.9.2 kernel since this morning..:D
[20:34] <vanishing> has been*
[20:34] <roasted> snazzy :P
[20:34] <belgianguy> vanishing: it's for adding an entry to Unity
[20:35] <vanishing> belgianguy: ye..but still
[20:36] <m3t4lukas> hey, is there a propgram that turns up the cpu fan speed?
[20:36] <belgianguy> vanishing: then where should I go?
[20:37] <vanishing> belgianguy: probably #ubuntu-offtopic or something..
[20:39] <histo> m3t4lukas: it's handled by power management which is all built into the kernel now.
[20:39] <histo> m3t4lukas: You maybe be able to adjust it with different acpi tools if there are any.
[20:39] <supersecond> besides pidgin and empathy messengers, are there any better ones?
[20:41] <Fieldy> hello, I have a squid proxy I'd like to run all my ubuntu systems through to include apt. I defined http_proxy HTTP_PROXY ftp_proxy and FTP_PROXY properly in /etc/bash.bashrc and then exported those variables, rebooted and logged back in...
[20:42] <Fieldy> however sudo apt-get update does not hit the proxy nor does any other apt action. if I su -   to root first, and then run the apt commands, it does hit the proxy.
[20:42] <Fieldy> bad time to ask a question with all the splits i guess. will try again later
[20:43] <saegeoff> howdy
[20:46] <supersecond> oh ok
[20:49] <m3t4lukas> I think 65°C are a bit much...
[20:50] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[20:53] <MrPwet> me
[20:54] <batmite> how do you remove duck sauce from a ubuntu laptop
[20:55] <vanishing> batmite: whats that..
[20:55] <batmite> :) just kidding around.
[20:56] <batmite> bored
[20:56] <vanishing> ~.~
[21:10] <b3n> hi --- i installed     ttf-mscorefonts but not showing in libreoffis
[21:10] <b3n> using 13.04
[21:11] <surio_> Greetings room!
[21:11] <surio_> I have Mint 14 installed on one partition, and subsequently, Grml (another debian distro) on another partition. Grml install botched up the MBR/bootloader, but I have now recovered the MBR. However, when I run "update-grub" from Mint, it seems to pick up Windows which is on another disk, but not Grml which is on the same disk :-P FWIW, the partition containing Grml is mounted :)
[21:11] <genii-around> b3n: Try:  xset fp rehash     ...if you have not logged off and back on after installing them
[21:12] <b3n> in terninal ?
[21:12] <surio_> I am thinking, this was fixed as they are perhaps related, in a way? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/748413
[21:12] <genii-around> surio_: This is not Mint support :)
[21:12] <genii-around> !mint | surio_
[21:13] <gtm157> hi im having a problem with dapper drake distro of ubuntu can anyone help
[21:13] <k1l> !eol | gtm157
[21:13] <genii-around> gtm157: What you probably want there is the second link the bot provides
[21:14] <auronandace> gtm157: dapper (6.06) is really old, hasn't been supported for years
[21:14] <gtm157> i know im running a legacy server
[21:14] <b3n> genii-around i'll log out and bak in
[21:14] <gtm157> its a duel pentium 3 with 512 mb ram system
[21:15] <gtm157> modern distros wont hold on it
[21:15] <genii-around> gtm157: You're running such an old LTS that even the next LTS of 8.04 is now EOL
[21:16] <surio_> genii-around: I know. I've come from there. They don't know what's wrong
[21:16] <surio_> rather didn't know what to do
[21:17] <surio_> genii-around: Of course, there's that link from launchpad :)
[21:17] <genii-around> surio_: You could ask generally in ##linux , but persisting in here will only annoy
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> gtm157: Whaddaya mean, modern distros don't wor - Oh, Pentium III you said? Hate to say it, but I don't think even Lubuntu will fit.
[21:17] <gtm157> genii-around: all im trying to do is configure the internet to work cause im not getting a signal from a direct hard line at all and nothing is showing up in network config besides the default ip adress and subnet mask i dont need OS help and i know its outdated but like i said the legacy system in running wont support anything newer
[21:18] <gtm157> even DSL barely wanted to take
[21:19] <gtm157> its a duel pentium 3 blade server with 4 160gb scuzzy drives i got for free
[21:19] <Kamaris> Could anyone tell me which logfile might contain the MAC address of connecting computers? Preferably something that is historical to the system? I need to go back several months to see if I can find the MAC address of a system on my local network.
[21:19] <zykotick9> scuzzy drives ;) gtm157 it's SCSI
[21:20] <gtm157> forgot abv
[21:20] <histo> Kamaris: connecting how
[21:20] <gtm157> >.<
[21:20] <gtm157> hardline cable
[21:20] <genii-around> gtm157: Are you using some layout like network card -> router/modem->internet with dhcp, or are you using something like roaring penguin/pon-poff adsl direct login with modem bridged?
[21:20] <gtm157> internet NIC card built into Motherboard direct to router
[21:21] <Kamaris> any computer that may have accessed data on the ubuntu server, maybe either through SMB or HTTP...
[21:22] <llutz> Kamaris: those wouldn't transfer/log mac-addresses
[21:22] <Kamaris> ok. i can't think of any other methods i used to communicate with the system that might have logged the MAC by chance.
[21:23] <histo> Kamaris: I doubt you are going to find a log by mac you may find ip address loges like /var/log/wtmp etc...
[21:24] <Kamaris> basically, i need the MAC address in order to gain traction on a burglarly case where my main desktop was stolen from my apartment. the police won't pursue it without a MAC address for my NIC to definitively say the system is mine. The router logs have long since cycled since the robbery happened in January. Ubuntu logs were my last hopes of getting a MAC
[21:25] <histo> Kamaris: How are you viewing the logs if your system was stolen?
[21:25] <gtm157> genii-around : in the network settings the cable connection doesnt even show up the only on is modem connection which its saying is not configured
[21:25] <ubuntourist> Working with the command line only, if I add a new user to a custom Live CD, how do I set that user as the auto-logged in? (I'm trying to create a "user" only CD so that people booting from it cannot screw with the hard disk of the host machines.)
[21:25] <histo> Kamaris: did your system dhcp the network or the router?
[21:25] <vanishing> does firewall logs contain mac addresses?
[21:25] <Kamaris> histo: main desktop was Windows based, my ubuntu server was not stolen
[21:25] <bekks> vanishing: Depends on what they are logging.
[21:26] <Kamaris> histo: the router unfortunately
[21:26] <histo> Kamaris: also that's kind of silly that they won't pursue without a mac address. there are plenty of other ways to prove the system is yours.
[21:27] <zykotick9> vanishing: MAC addresses would only be useful for local network...?
[21:27] <histo> Kamaris: You could perform a grep of your /var/log/* searching for mac addresses .  What type of desktop was it?
[21:27] <Kamaris> histo: the police refused to even give consideration to my case because it's just property theft... after 3 months, my dropbox account on that desktop came online from a different city in the state i lived. i recontacted the police and explained my system had not been wiped and it was online, and how i had not changed my dropbox password in hopes of this happening
[21:27] <histo> Kamaris: for instance was it a home built or is a dell/hp etc...
[21:28] <Kamaris> after a full day of begging and pleading, they finally assigned aaaaa detective to call me for more info
[21:28] <Kamaris> that was last month... and now after an additional month, he says he can't do anything without a MAC
[21:28] <histo> Kamaris: pm me please
[21:28] <Kamaris> histo: home built, ASUS onboard NIC
[21:28] <llutz> Kamaris: sudo grep -ri '[0-9A-F]\{2\}\(:[0-9A-F]\{2\}\)\{5\}' /var/log/*                    but i doubt you'll find any useful info
[21:29] <Ben64> Kamaris: do you have the motherboard box
[21:29] <Kamaris> i do have the motherboard box, and i supplied the serial from the box to the police
[21:29] <Ben64> it should also have the mac on the box
[21:29] <histo> Kamaris: The mac shouldb eon the box for the mobo
[21:29] <Kamaris> o.O
[21:29] <Kamaris> orly??
[21:30] <Ben64> and if its home built it should be way easier to tell its yours
[21:30] <Ben64> ya, rly
[21:30] <Kamaris> ok... need to figre out a way to look at the box... i'm in cali for work, box is in texas at homestead
[21:30] <Kamaris> let me see if i can facetime someone to check out the box
[21:30] <Ben64> its dumb that they need the mac though
[21:30] <Kamaris> i agree
[21:30] <Ben64> you can't track someone with a mac address
[21:30] <histo> Ben64: they are probably trying to put enough together for a search warrant
[21:30] <Kamaris> but i must stress how hard it's been to get someoen to even look a tmy case
[21:31] <Kamaris> yes, actually, what histo said. i gave them the connecting IP's info from dropbox, and after 4 weeks, this is the follow up request, "need mac to do anything"
[21:32] <histo> Kamaris: I would assume that someone logging into your dropbox would be enouhg evidence to obtain a warrant though.. Well atleast with the courts I am familiar with.
[21:32] <tacomaster> lol how would you even go about tracking a mac address you would have to be on the same lan as them because the mac address is never broad casted outside of the router it is the way the router separates traffic for internal and external address
[21:32] <oconnore> Hi, can someone help me figure out where the best place would be to report a bug? My bug is that on the 3.8 kernels distributed with 13.04, my wifi card will see available networks, but can't reliably connect to them. Downgrading to a 3.5 kernel (from 12.10) fixes the problem, and I can then connect to wifi networks successfully.
[21:32] <zykotick9> tacomaster: +1
[21:32] <Ben64> or contact asus and see if they can get the mac from the serial
[21:33] <ubuntourist> oconnore Have you aready poked around on http://launchpad.net/? That's the typical place to file bugs.
[21:33] <Kamaris> really good suggestions, ty
[21:33] <sgt_fragwell> evenin' all
[21:33] <Kamaris> trying to contact someone in the house still to see the box
[21:34] <zykotick9> !bug > oconnore
[21:34] <tacomaster> sgt_fragwell: hello :D
[21:35] <Kamaris> Well, looks liek no one is at home. I will follow back up in here later if I get any progress. Thank you to those that took the time to respond. I greatly appreciate your input.
[21:36] <oconnore> thanks zykotick9. ubuntourist -- I looked around but it wasn't clear which package I should report the bug against. NetworkManager, kernel-ppa, laptop-testing, etc. all seem related.
[21:37] <zykotick9> oconnore: personally, i'd report against the kernel.  if it's wrong, the bugs-team will sort it out for you.
[21:37] <oconnore> zykotick9: Ok, thanks
[21:37] <cbx33> hi all, I upgraded from 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04
[21:37] <ubuntourist> I'm guessing that at least while I'm chrooted into the custom ISO image, I can just do a "passwd" to take care of the original auto-logged-in user and a useradd (or adduser) to create an unprivileged one. But from the command line, how do I make that the automatically logged in user?
[21:37] <cbx33> problem, unity doesn't have any menu bars or anything
[21:38] <cbx33> i just about have window decorators
[21:39] <esperegu> is it possible to write to a file in a pipe and replace its contents on every write?
[21:42] <genii-around> esperegu: Generally it's  > filename  for create or overwrite and >> for append
[21:42] <esperegu> genii-around: that will add all items to that file
[21:42] <esperegu> genii-around: I only want one line in the file
[21:43] <tacomaster> esperegu: not with the > it deletes everything and rewrites it
[21:43] <Udms> ls
[21:43] <genii-around> esperegu: Then pipe it through something which extracts the line before you write it
[21:43] <esperegu> genii-around: so if I have a file with text and i do 'cat textfile > newfile' I want the newfile only to contain the last line of the textfile
[21:44] <tacomaster> esperegu: look in to grep
[21:44] <esperegu> tacomaster: I use grep
[21:44] <Ben64> tail -n1 textfile > newfile
[21:44] <genii-around> esperegu: Then you insert something like: cat textfile | tail -n1 > filename
[21:44] <esperegu> hmm
[21:44] <esperegu> lemme be more clear
[21:45] <esperegu> I have a tcpflow running. And on each match I want it to write to that file
[21:45] <esperegu> but I want only the last item in the file
[21:45] <esperegu> so it needs to overwrite it for each matching line
[21:45] <g0th> hi when I do xset fp+ (some directory with mathematica fonts) I get: "xset:  bad font path element (#6), possible causes are:"
[21:45] <g0th> any ideas?
[21:46] <g0th> I get the same message if I start mathematica
[21:46] <esperegu> it is something like this: tcpflow -p -c -i eth2 src host myhost and port 80| grep --line-buffered -oE ".* HTTP/1.[01] 200 OK"  | sed -u "s@.*@$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S) @" > test.log
[21:47] <esperegu> and I want to have test.log to only contain the last matching date
[21:50] <andres_> help me
[21:51] <K1lleD> hello guys, i try to share one folder, my sister have laptop with windows 8. i have ubuntu 12.04. i share folders with samba, but when she try ot open folder have a error message: you dont have acces to this folder, and didnt ask her for name+pass to open folder.
[21:51]  * madprops helps andres_
[21:51] <K1lleD> mmmmm sry for my bad english btw
[21:53] <clcto> K1lleD: where is the folder you are sharing?
[21:53] <goddard> is anyone else annoyed that the automatic updater pops up every time i do an apt-get update
[21:53] <goddard> how can i disable the automatic updates?
[21:53] <tacomaster> K1lleD: Check the permissions of the folder
[21:54] <esperegu> nobody?
[21:55] <clcto> K1lleD: if its in home, you will need to add executable permissions to /home/user/
[21:55] <K1lleD> clcto: , folder is in /media/.../downloads
[21:57] <clcto> and what are the permissions of /media/... and /media/.../downloads
[21:57] <ahammond> where can I find a 12.04 package of libzmq1 libzmq-dbg and libzmq-dev for ZeroMQ 2.1.7? I need that specific version.
[21:57] <tacomaster> K1lleD: /media is out of reg user permissions you probally need to add read and write permissions
[21:57] <goddard> ahammond: probably in archive.ubuntu.com
[21:57] <ahammond> goddard: thanks, I'll take a look
[21:57] <tacomaster> K1lleD: normally /media is owned by root unless you have changed it
[21:58] <K1lleD> how i can give premmision on /media ... i have movies and music, and i want to share
[21:58] <ironhalik> anyone having segfaults after upgrading to 3.8.0-21?
[21:58] <K1lleD> to my sister can watch movies
[21:58] <K1lleD> ?
[21:59] <clcto> K1lleD: man chmod
[22:04] <usr13> clcto: drwxr-xr-x  20 root  root  4096 May 16 13:01 media  Is what it's supposed to be.
[22:04] <clcto> thats fine
[22:04] <usr13> KingK_: How do you want to share them?
[22:05] <usr13> K1lleD: How do you want to share?
[22:05] <usr13> sorry clcto KingK_  Those posts were supposed to be for K1lleD
[22:05] <andres_> How can i program in C#?
[22:06] <usr13> K1lleD: What do you want to share and how do you want to share it?
[22:06] <andres_> What?
[22:06] <usr13> andres_: Learn the language
[22:06] <K1lleD> usr13: i want my sister open in her windows 8 "network" folder and see my computer and open folders and download and delete files
[22:06] <K1lleD> and etc.. full access
[22:06] <andres_> But in ubuntu?
[22:06] <K1lleD> to this folder i want to give her
[22:06] <tacomaster> andres_: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/programming-languages/c-sharp/
[22:06] <K1lleD> this is a folder only with movies and music
[22:07] <clcto> andres_: you can program in any text editor, compiling is a different story
[22:07] <usr13> andres_: There are a number of wesites you can go to that might get you started, http://www.cprogramming.com/
[22:07] <clcto> K1lleD: what is the whole path to your shared foldere
[22:07] <ubuntourist> Never mind. I didn't look as hard as I thought. Got it now... I think.
[22:08] <usr13> andres_: vim is good
[22:08] <K1lleD> user82: /media/......./downloads
[22:09] <usr13> KingK_: Your whole computer?
[22:09] <clcto> K1lleD: every folder in the path needs to have r-x permission for "other" and the files in the folder will have to have rwx for other
[22:09] <clcto> i mean rw-
[22:09] <usr13> KingK_: I don't think you really want that.
[22:09] <clcto> K1lleD: that is not the full path
[22:09] <K1lleD> clcto: martin@k1lled:/media/E258E8C558E89995/downloads$
[22:09] <clcto> usr13: it is a 1 not an I
[22:09] <K1lleD> .. ?
[22:09] <usr13> sorry again K1lleD
[22:09] <bekks> K1lleD: Folders always need execution permissions, otherwise you cant enter them.
[22:09] <tacomaster> K1lleD: hey you can normally run "gksu nautilus" and go to the folder you want to change permissions on and just right click and go to permissions
[22:10] <tacomaster> K1lleD: if you dont want to run many commands
[22:10] <clcto> what are the permissions for E258E8C...
[22:10] <usr13> K1lleD: Maybe what you really want is vnc.
[22:10] <clcto> and why is that the name of it
[22:10] <usr13> K1lleD: You could install x11vnc on your computer and tightvnc (vncviewer) on your sister's computer.
[22:11] <clcto> usr13: that is an awful solution
[22:11] <K1lleD> drwx------ 1 martin martin 4.0K Jan 22 03:20 End.of.Watch.2012.BRRip.XviD.AC3-MAGNAT
[22:11] <tacomaster> clcto: sounds like an external hdd or another partition and if you dont name it manually it normally names it something weird like that
[22:11] <goddard> is anyone else annoyed that the automatic updater pops up every time i do an apt-get update
[22:11] <goddard> how can i disable the automatic updates?
[22:11] <usr13> K1lleD: Or just tightvnc on both.
[22:11] <clcto> K1lleD: it needs to be drwx---r-x
[22:11] <K1lleD> hmm
[22:11] <clcto> K1lleD: dont use VNC
[22:12] <th0r> K1lleD, what you want is samba. Give your sister a samba id and password, and she should be able to access the folders you share using samba
[22:12] <K1lleD> clcto: i am newbie in ubuntu how to change this premission
[22:12] <K1lleD> ?
[22:12] <K1lleD> i have samba in my computer
[22:12] <th0r> K1lleD, look at swat for configuring samba and sharing the folders
[22:12] <K1lleD> she need samba to on her windows 8 ?
[22:12] <K1lleD> or what
[22:13] <clcto> K1lleD: tacomaster told you
[22:13] <usr13> K1lleD: What do you want her to do?  Download files from your PC to hers?
[22:13] <th0r> K1lleD, if you have samba set up then I believe it should appear in the network neighbourhood, or whatever they call it in win8
[22:13] <clcto> K1lleD: you can do it through command line using chmod or through nautilus if you use gksu nautilus
[22:13] <K1lleD> we are in one network
[22:14] <K1lleD> with her, and i want to share folders
[22:14] <clcto> th0r: he is geting permission denied on her comp
[22:14] <clcto> K1lleD: gksu nautilus then right click the folder and go to permissions
[22:14] <usr13> K1lleD: Install samba on your computer and pick the directories you want to share.
[22:14] <th0r> clcto, has he defined her as a user, and programmed the id/passwd on her computer for logon to samba?
[22:14] <K1lleD> usr13:  i do taht
[22:14] <K1lleD> that *
[22:14] <K1lleD> but nothing she again cant open this folders
[22:15] <usr13> K1lleD: What error does she get?
[22:15] <clcto> K1lleD: ignore them and change the permissions
[22:15] <K1lleD> "dont have premmsion to open this folder"
[22:15] <andres_> I have been installed Samba
[22:15] <clcto> K1lleD: like ive told you 10 times
[22:15] <th0r> K1lleD, have you set up that folder as a share in samba?
[22:16] <andres_> Yes
[22:16] <usr13> K1lleD: Which folder(s)?
[22:16] <andres_> /home/andres/Downloads
[22:16] <clcto> andres_: wtf are you talking about
[22:17] <usr13> K1lleD: pastebinit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[22:17] <andres_> How can i configure Wine ?
[22:18] <andres_> I need to play a Windows XP game but i can't
[22:18] <usr13> andres_: What's to configure?
[22:18] <K1lleD> usr13: what i must change in this .conf file ?
[22:18] <usr13> andres_: Not all Windows XP games will work under wine.  (Most will but not all.)
[22:18] <clcto> K1lleD: he wants you to pastebin it
[22:18] <usr13> K1lleD: Yes
[22:18] <andres_> in a terminal i put winecfg
[22:18] <clcto> K1lleD: but have you changed the permissions?
[22:19] <clcto> of e378.... or w.e it was
[22:19] <usr13> andres_: wine name.exe
[22:19] <K1lleD> clcto: i am not sure how to change this permissions
[22:19] <clcto> K1lleD: i bet you a cookie that is your problem
[22:19] <clcto> K1lleD: i told you
[22:19] <usr13> K1lleD: pastebinit /etc/samba/smb.conf    #And send us resulting URL.  We'll have a look.
[22:19] <K1lleD> on /media/e25.../
[22:19] <utfans05> i thought that with wine you needed to give it the path to the file unless you were in that directory
[22:19] <th0r> clcto, I share /media and all folders under it, and I haven't had to change any permissions
[22:19] <clcto> K1lleD: gksu nautilus then right click the folder and go to permissions
[22:19] <andres_> exit
[22:20] <K1lleD> clcto:  i try this
[22:20] <K1lleD> but when i change someething
[22:20] <K1lleD> after 1 sec
[22:20] <K1lleD> again go back what was
[22:20] <clcto> K1lleD: why?
[22:20] <K1lleD> i dont know i just open how you say
[22:20] <K1lleD> gksu nautilus
[22:21] <K1lleD> after this i go in folder
[22:21] <usr13> K1lleD: rwx  r=4 w=2 x=1  rw=6 rwx=7  etc. etc.  See man chmod
[22:21] <K1lleD> i go right click
[22:21] <K1lleD> properties after this premission
[22:21] <clcto> yes
[22:21] <usr13> K1lleD: Yea, you can do it that way.
[22:21] <K1lleD> and i try to change options here but always stay on one point
[22:21] <K1lleD> and never change
[22:21] <usr13> K1lleD: What directory is it?
[22:21] <K1lleD> wait i will make a one photo
[22:22] <K1lleD> /media/c25......./downloads
[22:22] <usr13> K1lleD: (You can only change permissions on directories that you own.)
[22:22] <usr13> K1lleD: root owns /media/
[22:22] <GSilva> anyone here who uses/had used hackety hack?
[22:22] <clcto> usr13: thats why he did gksu
[22:22] <usr13> K1lleD: Choose one you own. Make a directory in /home/K1lleD/
[22:23] <clcto> usr13: its an external hard drive
[22:23] <K1lleD> i have directory and ?
[22:23] <clcto> usr13: hes not going to copy the files to home just to share, that is another horrible solution
[22:23] <K1lleD> clcto:  this is a 180gb files
[22:23] <K1lleD> i cant copy in here
[22:23] <clcto> K1lleD: i know
[22:23] <usr13> K1lleD: Use samba
[22:23] <EtherNet> hello guys, does anoyone know how to prevent autosuspend on USB devices? my USB mouse stop working after a few minutes idleing. I have to reconnect it
[22:24] <K1lleD> usr13:  wait i will make photos
[22:24] <K1lleD> to see.
[22:24] <K1lleD> ok ?
[22:24] <clcto> K1lleD: please
[22:24] <usr13> !paste | K1lleD
[22:24] <clcto> and usr13 is not helping
[22:25] <otak> So the external drive is FAT based that is why the permissions cannot be changed
[22:25] <bekks> otak: Because its FAT.
[22:26] <otak> It must be mounted differently
[22:26] <bekks> otak: FAT does not know anything about linux file permissions.
[22:26] <usr13> K1lleD: Open a terminal, type   pastebinit /etc/samba/smb.conf   Hit enter. Send us the resulting URL and we will have a look at what you have so far.
[22:26] <GSilva> usr13, have you haver used hackety hack?
[22:26] <clcto> otak: that makes sense
[22:27] <clcto> otak: ntfs does though?
[22:27] <usr13> GSilva: I don't think so.  (Don't know what hackety hack is.)
[22:27] <josue> hola
[22:27] <clcto> \o
[22:27] <GSilva> it's a rails programing tool
[22:27] <K1lleD> usr13: http://postimg.org/gallery/awtdgq3s/
[22:29] <clcto> K1lleD: as otak said it needs to be mounted differently
[22:29] <K1lleD> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5672389/
[22:29] <K1lleD> this is /etc/samba/smb.conf
[22:29] <usr13> K1lleD: "Only allow access to sepcific users"?   martin?
[22:30] <clcto> usr13: she doesnt even get to the passwd prompt
[22:30] <K1lleD> usr13: ....... when i take for everyone... nothing my sister again cant
[22:30] <K1lleD> open folder..
[22:30] <usr13> K1lleD: "valid users = martin"
[22:31] <caes> wondering if there's a way to regain control if you accidentally created an administrator without a password and then set the only account with a password to standard user?
[22:31] <usr13> K1lleD: The way you have it, only user martin will have access permission
[22:32] <clcto> K1lleD: fdisk -l then write a rule in /etc/fstab that has something like /dev/sdb1 vfat defaults,umask=000 0 0
[22:32] <clcto> usr13: that is not the issue (at least yet)
[22:32] <usr13> clcto: Ok.
[22:33] <usr13> I've got to get outta here soon anyway....
[22:33] <clcto> $su
[22:33] <clcto> $passwd
[22:33] <clcto> caes: ^^
[22:34] <caes> there is no longer an admin password
[22:34] <caes> that's what i mean.
[22:34] <clcto> caes: so you cant "su" ?
[22:35] <utfans05> caes, when you do su leave the password blank
[22:35] <utfans05> caes, if theres no password set then that should fix it
[22:35] <caes> authentication failure
[22:35] <caes> i guess it won't take an empty password
[22:35] <utfans05> hrm
[22:35] <clcto> sudo passwd root ?
[22:36] <utfans05> caes, then im unsure
[22:36] <usr13> caes: You no longer have access to the original user account?
[22:36] <maui> powerpoint-alike software for linux?
[22:36] <clcto> maui: libreoffice impress
[22:36] <caes> ok.  will ubuntu automatically download all the packages i already have installed if i reinstall the os?
[22:36] <clcto> no
[22:37] <caes> i have access to original account... but i demoted it
[22:37] <usr13> caes: You can fix what you have.
[22:37] <naito> Has anyone experienced problems with network connections (wired) on 10.10 Maverick Meerkat?
[22:37] <usr13> caes:  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[22:37] <caes> there is an admin, but it has no password and won't accept a blank password in su
[22:38] <clcto> caes: wait, you have an administrator user? not the standard root?
[22:38] <usr13> caes: You can't use sudo?
[22:38] <usr13> caes: Then just set a password
[22:38] <usr13> caes: passwd
[22:39] <usr13> caes: In a terminal use the   passwd   command.
[22:39] <clcto> su -u <admin>
[22:39] <naito> Whenever it happens (once every few months) I try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:40] <naito> Which I thought had worked before, but it didn't fix it this last time
[22:41] <otak> naito: I think 10.10 is no longer supported
[22:41] <loculinux> ehhh
[22:41] <naito> I see. So, I can get no help here? lol
[22:41] <loculinux> español jilipollas
[22:41] <loculinux> jajajajajaja
[22:41] <otak> you can get help with upgrading
[22:41] <usr13> clcto: sudo -i
[22:41] <clcto> naito: upgrade :) thats all the help you need
[22:42] <ovidiu> hi.. what's the channel for help on kubuntu?
[22:42] <clcto> usr13: #kubuntu
[22:42] <loculinux> comeme el raboo
[22:42] <clcto> ovidiu: ^^
[22:42] <ovidiu> thx
[22:42] <usr13> ovidiu: This one will do, but there is also  #kubuntu
[22:42] <sssilver> Hello gentlemen. Why do people prefer Ubuntu over Debian?
[22:42] <loculinux> jajaj ludooo
[22:42] <loculinux> jajajaja
[22:42] <naito> Yeh, I should update, but I'm trying to keep my dev box as similar/same as the version installed on our Linode
[22:42] <clcto> usr13: i guess it is su - USER
[22:42] <loculinux> fookiuu
[22:43] <loculinux> fokii wanted
[22:43] <usr13> sssilver: That is a complicated question.  Basically it is fancier and, well maybe more user friendly, etc...
[22:43] <clcto> sssilver: debian has a slow release cycle
[22:43] <usr13> sssilver: What exactly are you looking for in a distro?  (Are you shopping?)
[22:44] <sssilver> usr13: what do you mean "more user friendly"? A linux distro is pretty much just its package manager
[22:44] <clcto> archlinux > ubuntu > debian
[22:44] <sssilver> everything else is the same between distros
[22:44] <ovidiu> i have a problem with dual monitors, more specifically with a player i think it's made in html5, in windows when i click the fullscreen button it it's in the second screen it remains in full screen on the second screen but on kubuntu it fullscreens it on the first monitor even though the button was pressed on the second screen. any fix for this?
[22:44] <clcto> sssilver: not true
[22:44] <sssilver> and ubuntu and debian have the same package manager
[22:44] <usr13> sssilver: Basically, yes, but repos are organized differently.
[22:44] <clcto> sssilver: ubuntu uses upstart arch uses systemd (for 1)
[22:45] <clcto> sssilver: different options enabled in the kernel, etx
[22:45] <sssilver> clcto: I compile my own kernel anyway
[22:45] <usr13> sssilver: All distros have access to same packages, they all have similiar but different default collections.
[22:45] <clcto> usr13: also not true
[22:46] <proby> ubuntu > debian ?
[22:46] <proby> are you trying to start a war here ?
[22:47] <sssilver> I'm just trying to understand what is it that makes Ubuntu preferable over Debian
[22:47] <sssilver> really
[22:47] <sssilver> being a Gentoo user myself, I'm quite far from both
[22:47] <sssilver> now I'm choosing a distro for me cloud server, and I wanna go with Debian
[22:47] <proby> sssilver , ubuntu have mor gui configurztion tools installed by default :p
[22:48] <sssilver> but then I am like -- hey there must be a reason Ubuntu is more popular
[22:48] <usr13> clcto: What is not true?  (I said several things, please correct as needed, but be specific.)
[22:48] <madprops> ovidiu: at least you're getting a fullscreen :P  I know it's not a solution but try moving it to the other screen by pressing alt and moving it with the mouse
[22:48] <sssilver> so I ended up here
[22:48] <sssilver> proby: but that's not really an argument for a distro...
[22:49] <sssilver> I mean really, "has more gui config tools installed by default" just sounds wrong
[22:49] <clcto> sssilver: use archlinux. rolling release is awesome and the community is awesome
[22:49] <madprops> It's all about the packages really
[22:49] <sssilver> madprops: what packages?
[22:50] <madprops> the ones you need
[22:50] <madprops> and for peace of mind: having a working system that is not prone to breakage
[22:50] <usr13> sssilver: Asking which distro is better is a philosophical question.
[22:50] <proby> sssilver , i think this is what make ubuntu deferant
[22:50] <proby> otherwise it is just another debian
[22:50] <sssilver> I'm not asking which is better. I'm just failing to understand the conceptual difference between Ubuntu and Debian.
[22:50] <proby> well a blleding edge one
[22:51] <madprops> I think ubuntu has more up to date packages
[22:51] <Loshki> sssilver: actually, when all said and done, I find ubuntu has fewer installation problems out of the box, and better support for beginners...
[22:51] <pedroamaral> how to install gnome on ubuntu 13:10 by apt-get
[22:52] <proby> !info gnome
[22:52] <usr13> sssilver: Bascially, it is a difference in package management and selected packages of the default install.
[22:52] <sssilver> OK, so if I compile my own kernel and point Debian to Ubuntu repos, then it pretty much becomes an Ubuntu, eh?
[22:52] <otak> sssilver: #ubuntu-server
[22:52] <k1l> pedroamaral: 13.10 ? that is in developing state. please see #ubuntu+1 for that
[22:52] <usr13> sssilver: Are you interested in server install?
[22:52] <tom_> bye
[22:52] <usr13> sssilver: Yes, that's correct. pretty much.
[22:52] <sssilver> usr13: I'm interested in learning the justification for Ubuntu's existence, let alone popularity
[22:53] <usr13> sssilver: Ubuntu has done a LOT of things right.
[22:53] <k1l> sssilver: more user friendly. in case of drivers, 3rd party, easy install etc etc etc
[22:53] <k1l> 3rd party programs*
[22:53] <proby> sssilver , and ease of configuration with preinstalled guis :D
[22:53] <madprops> plus it has a cool name :3
[22:54] <sssilver> k1l: I'm sorry, I just can't comprehend how can a distro be "user friendly". Do you mean that KDE/Gnome is user friendly? But those are available under any other distro as well.
[22:54] <Hardtail> Hello everyone. I just installed Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro with VMWare Fusion. I'm having some performance problems. I changed in my settings to allow Ubuntu to use 2 cores and 1GB of RAM but everything is very sluggish. I installed Diablo 2 with Wine with no problems but there is an issue with sound and video when I attempt to load the game. I end up having to quit the process because the screen turns black. Can anyone point me in r
[22:54] <k1l> sssilver: just compare the days when ubuntu started. but that is more a topic for #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic than for the technical support channel
[22:54] <proby> sssilver , example : in ubuntu you have an interface to manage drivers , which is not available on debian or arch
[22:54] <usr13> sssilver: One difference is Ubuntu has Cononical behind it. See: http://www.canonical.com/about-ubuntu
[22:55] <madprops> sssilver: The installer is user friendly, plus the gui tools they provide like the updater
[22:55] <usr13> sssilver: madprops took the words from my keyboard.  Ubuntu made great strides in making the install process easy, (early on, as it began).
[22:56] <k1l> sssilver: its about how you define your user. as a beginner or as a CLI guru. but again, that topic doesnt suit into this technical support channel
[22:57] <proby> i think he should try arch , debian , gentoo or slackware and he will know the difference :p
[22:57] <sssilver> OK thanks for your input guys
[22:57] <sssilver> have a fantastic rest of the day
[22:57] <proby> sssilver, thanks :)
[22:58] <otak> yeh 120 seconds of blessings
[23:00] <Hardtail> Should I be running Ubuntu from boot?
[23:00] <Kitzune> Anyone know the command to run screencloud from terminal?
[23:00] <maui> that would be dangerous hardtail
[23:00] <bierce24> hey guys i have an issue
[23:00] <Kitzune> I'm guessing it's not screencloud & 'cause that didn't work
[23:00] <bierce24> is there away to edit the grub.cfg in a live cd
[23:01] <Hardtail> @maui why do you say that?
[23:03] <caes> How do I reinstall ubuntu with everything the same?  obviously I back up home folder, but what about settings?  Config files?  Chrome options and extensions?  email client?  can I do all that conveniently?
[23:03] <bierce24> guys i cant get grub to show up when i tried to complile the 3.9.2 kernel
[23:03] <bierce24> it goes straight to memtest mode
[23:03] <proby> bierce24, ls /boot ?
[23:04] <BlackDalek> How do i get a live CD of 13.04 which has all current updates?
[23:04] <SeanP> what do i do when my computer is restarting when i9 hook it up to my internet?
[23:04] <bierce24> proby http://dpaste.com/1170055/
[23:05] <clcto> SeanP: check the log and see whats causing it
[23:05] <Chat1829> Hi asl
[23:05] <Hardtail> If i'm getting poor performance, lag when clicking icons on the task bar, should I be looking at drivers?
[23:06] <bierce24> proby what do i do
[23:07] <bierce24> seriously can anyone help
[23:07] <bierce24> i cant get it to boot
[23:07] <nsahoo> Hi,
[23:08] <bierce24> okay im at a loss right now
[23:09] <bierce24> is anyone here?!?
[23:09] <BlackDalek> do I absolutely need to have a "windows 8" badged computer in order to install the 64-bit version of 13.04 or can it be installed on an older 64-bit pc?
[23:09] <usr13> BlackDalek: You don't
[23:10] <usr13> BlackDalek: (that was to your first question)
[23:10] <bierce24> wtf
[23:11] <usr13> BlackDalek: Not sure I understand your last question.  Can you re-phrase it?
[23:11] <bierce24> alright whatever
[23:11] <bierce24> i guess ill have to reinstall
[23:12] <bierce24> so if i choose to reinstall itll keep all my home stuff right
[23:12] <th0r> bierce24, did you set up a separate partition for /home initially?
[23:12] <bierce24> no i just did a full erase everything and install
[23:12] <BlackDalek> usr13, on the ubuntu download page it says "download the 64-bit version if you have a windows 8 computer"... Can I also use the 64-bit version if I have an older non-windows 8 64-bit CPU computer? OR is the "windows 8" hardware a prerequisite?
[23:13] <usr13> BlackDalek: If your question is can Ubuntu 13.04 be installed on an older 64bit PC? The answer is yet.  (Ubuntu 13.04 can be installed on a new or old PC, but old-within-reason....)
[23:13] <th0r> bierce24, then you will probably lose everything on a reinstall
[23:13] <bierce24> it says installed software will be kept if possible
[23:13] <BlackDalek> usr13 by old I mean AMD athlon 2400 cpu
[23:13] <th0r> bierce24, are you upgrading or reinstalling?
[23:14] <bierce24> reinstalling
[23:14] <usr13> BlackDalek: It really doesn't matter.  You can install 32bit or 64bit version of Ubuntu, it's up to you.
[23:14] <bierce24> i tried to compile the 3.9.2 kernel but when i rebooted it goes straight to memtest
[23:14] <usr13> BlackDalek: Personally, I prefer just installing 32bit.
[23:14] <th0r> bierce24, then I doubt anything will be saved. You could try not formatting before install, but I wouldn't recommend it
[23:14] <usr13> BlackDalek: Not much advantage in the 64bit system.
[23:15] <Kitzune> So nobody knows the screencloud command then?
[23:15] <BlackDalek> ok thanks
[23:15] <mchlbhm> Hey! Anyone know of a good site or book that explains the relationship between the kernel and hardware?
[23:16] <gordonjcp> mchlbhm: on what level?
[23:16] <usr13> !screencloud | Kitzune
[23:17] <Kitzune> Thank you :)
[23:17] <mchlbhm> Gordonjcp: Anything I can get my newbie hands on. lol
[23:17] <gordonjcp> mchlbhm: if you want to know *generally* about how these things work, Andrew Tanenbaum's "jbi -aprogram 51104_D40A.jbi
[23:17] <gordonjcp> haha, comedy mispast
[23:17] <gordonjcp> mchlbhm: Operating Systems: Design and Implementation
[23:17] <gordonjcp> mchlbhm: it's not exactly bedtime reading though
[23:17] <usr13> Kitzune https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/screencloud/
[23:18] <nsahoo> Hi I am facing some dependency problems. The /boot partition was low on space. I removed some older linux-images using dpkg. After that whenever I am trying to run apt-get it's asking me to run apt-get -f install. That in turn is failing due to some dependency problem. Here is a paste bin link http://pastebin.com/LRQ2QNwt
[23:18] <GSilva> does Ubuntu 13 has more compatibility problems then Ubuntu 12? I can't even install regular programs...
[23:19] <usr13> nsahoo: Why didn't you just use apt-get remove ?
[23:19] <mchlbhm> gordonjcp, I wasn't really looking for a pop-up book. ;) Thank you for helping. :D
[23:19] <K1lleD> usr13:  i do that what you say in private ...
[23:19] <usr13> nsahoo: sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:20] <nsahoo> usr13:  I think it was complaining about lack of space. /boot was totally full
[23:20] <usr13> K1lleD: Ok, sorry.
[23:20] <nsahoo> usr13:  it's asking me to run apt-get -f install
[23:20] <usr13> K1lleD: YOu'll need to restart the samba server
[23:21] <usr13> nsahoo: I know, I saw your paste
[23:21] <nsahoo> usr13: also says linux-server : Depends: linux-image-server (= <IP_ADDRESS>.47) but <IP_ADDRESS>.51 is installed
[23:21] <usr13> nsahoo: So what happened when you ran  sudo apt-get autoremove  ?
[23:22] <nsahoo> usr13: I mean, when i run apt-get autoremove it asks me to run apt-get -f install. also complains about unmet dependency "linux-server : Depends: linux-image-server (= <IP_ADDRESS>.47) but <IP_ADDRESS>.51 is installed"
[23:22] <K1lleD> usr13: sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[23:22] <K1lleD> .. ?
[23:22] <usr13> K1lleD: sudo service smbd restart
[23:23] <K1lleD> ready
[23:24] <usr13>  nsahoo What do you have installed?
[23:24] <usr13> (OS)
[23:24] <nsahoo> usr13: ubuntu-server 12.04
[23:25] <usr13> nsahoo: uname -a
[23:25] <nsahoo> usr13: Linux nas 3.2.0-38-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 19 12:18:21 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:25] <Prock81> where is the setting for the hotkey to show all open windows across all desktops, the view where they pan out
[23:25] <kvothetech> Prock81: depends on your de if that's even available
[23:26] <Prock81> 13.04
[23:27] <usr13> nsahoo: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info | grep linux-image*list  | pastebinit
[23:27] <Prock81> i raN across it on my laptop, but i cant find it again to make the same setting on a desktop
[23:28] <pheonixash> evening all
[23:28] <kvothetech> pheonixash: hi
[23:29] <troulouliou_dev> hi is there anybody here on ease with secureboot ?
[23:29] <nsahoo> usr13: somehow the asterisk wasn't working so .. http://pastebin.com/phujRXZA
[23:29] <zvacet> nsahoo:  try with sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:29] <clcto> whats the lastlog equivilent for weechat?
[23:29] <pheonixash> by any chance does anyone know how to make amazon spit out a .amz file
[23:29] <pheonixash> ?
[23:29] <nsahoo> usr13: got this : http://pastebin.com/A9xqF5Be
[23:30] <usr13> nsahoo:  Ok. Looks like you've installed the 3.2.0-39 kernel but have not rebooted since then.  Right?
[23:30] <nsahoo> sounds right
[23:30] <nsahoo> usr13: thats right
[23:31] <nsahoo> usr13: actually i rebooted an hour ago, but i still have the 3.2.0-38 kernel
[23:31] <nsahoo> usr13: perhaps the later kernels could not be properly installed due to lack of space in /boot
[23:32] <clcto> usr13: didnt you say you had to go
[23:32] <usr13> nsahoo: Use apt-get remove to install all but linux-image-3.2.0-38-generic
[23:33] <kvothetech> nsahoo: you actually have a later version than the one it's complaining about...why does it want the old sources when you have a newer one
[23:33] <nsahoo> usr13: actually apt-get any command is failing
[23:33] <usr13> nsahoo: Or just several of the old ones.
[23:33] <Hardtail> how do you see your files in wine?
[23:33] <kvothetech> nsahoo: remove linux-image-server (force) then reinstall it.
[23:34] <kvothetech> Hardtail: ls .wine ?
[23:34] <usr13> nsahoo: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-29 linux-image-3.2.0-31 linux-image-3.2.0-32 linux-image-3.2.0-33 linux-image-3.2.0-34 linux-image-3.2.0-35 etc
[23:35] <nsahoo> usr13: and I keep getting this : http://pastebin.com/brb8wTcs
[23:35] <Hardtail> kvothetech: new to linux trying to navigate
[23:35] <kvothetech> Hardtail: ls .wine/drive_c or something like that
[23:35] <usr13> nsahoo: apt-get -f install   #What does that tell us.
[23:36] <Hardtail> kvothetech: okay thanks I will open terminal and give that a shot
[23:36] <nsahoo> usr13: unmet dependency, i posted that on the first pastebin
[23:36] <kvothetech> usr13: i've had that issue he's got before..basically apts broken until you remove all your kernels by force then let it reinstall
[23:36] <histo> Hardtail: ls ~/.wine/drive_c
[23:36] <usr13> kvothetech: Yea, I think start at other end.
[23:37] <histo> !manual | Hardtail
[23:37] <nsahoo> usr13: see http://pastebin.com/LRQ2QNwt
[23:37] <usr13> nsahoo: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-43
[23:37] <usr13> nsahoo: but remember to do dpkg-reconfiger on the current one first.
[23:38] <nsahoo> usr13: no go.
[23:38] <zvacet> Hardtail: in terminal type ls -a | less and after that cd .wine
[23:38] <usr13> nsahoo: 'apt-get autoremove' does not remove them?
[23:38] <Hardtail> thanks guys I am downloading the manual now
[23:38] <clcto> ls -A id better
[23:38] <clcto> is*
[23:38] <usr13> kvothetech: Do you want to express your experience here?
[23:39] <nsahoo> usr13: all apt-get commands get stopped due to dependency errors
[23:39] <kvothetech> usr13: I wanted to see if your friendly methods worked first
[23:39] <usr13> nsahoo: So I guess you use dpkg then.  Right kvothetech ?
[23:39] <clcto> nsahoo: is there a dont check dependency flag?
[23:39] <kvothetech> usr13: i didn't use dpkg
[23:40] <nsahoo> clcto: in dpkg, yes. not in apt-get
[23:40] <usr13> kvothetech: I would remove them all but the one he is using now, then reboot and do apt-get upgrade on the current one.
[23:40] <usr13> Right?
[23:41] <usr13> kvothetech: apt-get -f remove linux-headers-3.2.0-29 linux-headers-3.2.0-30 etc?
[23:41] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo rm /boot/rin* System* config* (obviously last 2 in /boot too)
[23:41] <nsahoo> usr13: a little afraid of rebooting now, with kenel messed up, it'll may not boot up
[23:41] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo what'll clear ALL your kernels so don't reboot
[23:41] <usr13> nsahoo: Oh no, don't reboot now.
[23:42] <usr13> nsahoo: Do as kvothetech says.  You can re-install kernel(s) as needed.
[23:43] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo then go to /usr/src and clear all the kernels from there as well.
[23:43] <nsahoo> kvothetech: usr13, I am not sure how any of this is resolving the dependency problem. This is manually removing files from the disk.
[23:44] <Hardtail> attempting to open Program Files (x86) gives me unexpected token error
[23:44] <kvothetech> nsahoo: usr13 it's getting rid of the shit it thinks you still need but don't
[23:44] <usr13> nsahoo: Not sure either, but if you do apt-get update, it should get you back to normal.
[23:44] <earspliT> Hardtail: from Ubuntu?
[23:45] <Hardtail> earsplit: yes sir in terminal
[23:45] <Hardtail> I am in the wine folder
[23:45] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo after that apt-get install linux-image-server if it fails we can go from there
[23:45] <earspliT> Hardtail: ohhhhhhh sorry can't help you with that
[23:45] <earspliT> Hardtail: you can't cd into the directory at all?
[23:45] <usr13> nsahoo: I'm pretty sure kvothetech is correct.  YOu are going to have to force this stuff to happen.  I might have tried the --force-yes option but... kvothetech will cut to the chanse.
[23:46] <Hardtail> earsplit : when I try cd it gives me unexpected token '('
[23:46] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo if that fails let me know and i'll tell you the next bit to do.
[23:46] <usr13> nsahoo: Even if apt-get doesn't work you could download and install manually with dpkg. so...
[23:47] <kvothetech> Hardtail: escape the ( with a \ ?
[23:47] <kvothetech> Hardtail: cd Program\ Files\ \(x86\)
[23:48] <fractaline> hello usr13 , and all
[23:48] <kvothetech> fractaline: wb
[23:48] <wadie> where do I find google chrome in ubuntu ? the shell script
[23:48] <fractaline> :)
[23:48] <earspliT> wadie: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[23:48] <usr13> wadie: apt-cache search crhom
[23:48] <kvothetech> wadie: google chrome or chromium
[23:48] <wadie> google chrome
[23:48] <kvothetech> wadie: chrome.google.com
[23:48] <earspliT> why do you want chrome over chromium?
[23:49] <wadie> I don't know the difference I just have chrome
[23:49] <wadie> where do I find it ?
[23:49] <kvothetech> wadie: chrome is precompiled chromium is open source thats the difference
[23:49] <Panama> Can someone assist me please with installing a game... I've tried #winehq, but no one seems to be responding for the support request I'm putting out
[23:49] <Hardtail> kvothetech: haha now it says no such directory , ohwell
[23:50] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo what's the status
[23:50] <kvothetech> Hardtail: just use tab complete i just typed out an example
[23:50] <wadie> kvothetech where do I find chrome ? which directory?
[23:50] <Hardtail> Panama: which game? I'm having trouble with d2
[23:50] <kvothetech> wadie: ???? we already answered your question on where it is and where chromium is and the difference...
[23:51] <kvothetech> Panama: what's the error
[23:51] <wadie> so I can't find chrome on my computer ?
[23:51] <somsip> wadie: do you want to know the location of the executable?
[23:51] <wadie> exactly
[23:51] <kvothetech> wadie: whereis chromium*
[23:51] <Panama> Hardtail: I am having problems with installing Guild Wars 2.... I've followed the guide that is listed on the AppDB, however... Whenever it gets to the point where it would begin installing, my entire PC freezes up
[23:51] <kvothetech> wadie: or whereis chrom*
[23:51] <somsip> wadie: /usr/bin/google-chrome
[23:51] <wadie> thank you somsip
[23:51] <kvothetech> Panama: anything useful in logs?
[23:52] <kvothetech> Panama: can you still get to a tty?
[23:52] <Hardtail> kvothetech: example works fine for the file, there are no typos in my command but it says directory doesn't exist
[23:52] <somsip> wadie: np. In this case, locate google-chrome
[23:52] <Panama> kvothetech: If I knew where logs were, I would check... And also, what is tty?
[23:52] <usr13> wadie: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |grep chrome  #See if it is installed.
[23:53] <Panama> kvothetech: Apologies, but I'm quite a bit of a newb when it comes to this stuff lol
[23:53] <wadie> it is and I found it
[23:53] <wadie> thanks
[23:53] <kvothetech> Panama: /var/log or wherever wine puts it's logs..if you're running it as user no idea where probably .wine
[23:53] <kvothetech> Panama: ctrl alt f1
[23:53] <Riley_88> hey guys i tried to compile and install the 3.9.2 kernel earlier and when i rebooted it kept going to memtest i ended up having to reinstall and it kept my home folder but the 3.9 kernel still shows up as default in grub is there away to remove it
[23:53] <usr13> nsahoo: Still with us?
[23:53] <Hardtail> kvothetech: nvm I didn't change to the directory properly...
[23:54] <usr13> Riley_88: What kernel are you using now?
[23:54] <Riley_88> <IP_ADDRESS> generic
[23:54] <kvothetech> Riley_88: uhm you skipped something in your .config if you only have memtest....
[23:54] <Riley_88> i have to manually select it in advanced options
[23:55] <usr13> Riley_88:  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |grep linux-image |grep list  |pastebinit   #Let's see what you have installed.
[23:57] <Panama_> kvothetech: Apologies about that.... I pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and it took me to tty1, but I had no idea how to get back
[23:57] <Riley_88> http://dpaste.com/1170258/
[23:57] <Riley_88> usr13
[23:58] <Riley_88> is there not a way to just get grub to boot of the 3.8 kernel by default
[23:59] <usr13> Riley_88: So you only have the one kernel installed. I suppose you can try dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic
[23:59] <Hardtail> kvothetech: was able to run the wine game through terminal, says unhandled usage flags 0x8 and state_zenable z buffer disabled, but arb_Depth_clamp isn't supported
[23:59] <kvothetech> Panama_: ctrl alt f7
[23:59] <Panama_> kvothetech: That is how I exit tty?
[23:59] <kvothetech> Riley_88: grub1 or 2
[23:59] <kvothetech> pnaayes
[23:59] <kvothetech> Panama_: yes
[23:59] <Riley_88> grub 2
[23:59] <Panama_> Ok, tyvm.... What do I need to do in tty?


[10:05] <popey> dpm: can't hear you
[10:05] <dpm> popey, sorry, browser crashing
[10:05] <dpm> trying again
[10:05] <popey> np
[12:04] <dpm> man, updating my laptop to utopic has meant I'm getting constantly harassed by that harp sound not only on the phone, but also on the computer...
[12:05] <popey> hahah!
[12:05] <popey> i am totally de-syncing my work calendar when on holiday
[12:05] <popey> don't fancy those sounds while I'm on vacation
[12:06] <dpm> ohhh, look at that, the power off menu!
[12:06] <popey> we need to fix the wording on that
[12:06] <popey> it's a bit wonky
[12:07] <popey> really need mpt to look at it
[12:07] <dpm> I didn't notice, I just went straight for pressing the button :)
[12:10] <elfy> dpm - quick question if I may, CC had a catchup with translation yesterday, spoke to hannie who's saying there is now no-one really co-ordinating translations now - something you used to do - is that right?
[12:10] <elfy> and hi dpm popey :)
[12:10] <popey> hello elfy
[12:10] <dpm> elfy, that's correct. I still work with the translations team every now and then, and we used to have a team of coordinators, but they've got busy with other things
[12:10] <dpm> and I'm focused on app development these days
[12:11] <elfy> ok - thanks dpm :)
[12:11] <elfy> yep - understood
[12:11] <elfy> that
[13:32] <Pici> anyone else seeing a lot of spam on the mailing lists recently?
[13:33] <Pici> I mean, I'm catching it before it is allowed through, but there has been a sudden uptake in volume
[13:33] <popey> yeah, classroom list went nuts recently
[13:38] <pleia2> yep, lots of spam in the queue for many lists
[13:39] <belkinsa> The Doc team is getting tons too
[13:40] <nigelb> pleia2: My friend handed me club matte the other day.
[13:40] <nigelb> still haven't forgiven him for that
[13:41] <pleia2> nigelb: haha
[13:42] <nigelb> for the longest time, apparently their advertising was "you'll get used to it"
[13:42] <pleia2> someone had one at lunch the other day, so much teasing
[13:43] <pleia2> "it's not so bad" ...by the end of lunch "ok, you're right, this is awful"
[13:48] <nigelb> haha
[13:48] <nigelb> pleia2: I was told, "It's like red bull, but different"
[13:48] <nigelb> which was true, but not the whole truth
[13:49] <belkinsa> You think whitelisting would be better than blacklisting or would that be too much work?
[13:49] <belkinsa> Or is that we already have?
[13:49] <nigelb> that sounds like too much work, I think.


[02:29] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: Do I need a review for a revert?
[02:29] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: nah, land it
[08:55] <mup> Bug #1701481 opened: juju 1.25 leaks memory (1.25.11+) <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1701481>
[09:15] <SimonKLB> hey! what is required to put my juju auth into a container? i've tried mounting both ~/.go-cookies and ~/.local/share/juju
[09:16] <SimonKLB> i'm trying to deploy a charm that is not published yet, on the host it works since i've authenticated, but in the container i get {macaroon discharge required: authentication required}
[10:25] <SimonKLB> solved it, host was running 2.1.3 and container 2.2, so the host didnt have the controller specific cookiejar