[03:13] <ic56> MTecknology: and this is a personal system? The kind where most of the data is personal and therefore would be stored in /home/MTecknology ?
[03:13] <Aesop> L-----D, annoyingly, the side buttons. Meaning no forward-back in Firefox.
[03:13] <mikebot> Aesop, ok, thanks fvor your help
[03:13] <Flippy> well Warbo, that didn't work so well. :\
[03:13] <Twinxor> !internet
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about internet
[03:13] <keleus> is there a way to make /dev/hdc STAY +x? (it resets every reboot and my WINE programs dont like it without +x)
[03:14] <Twinxor> !nothing
[03:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[03:14] <Zambezi> jrib, I thought so, but I got a couple of 100 hits when I tried rar in apt-get.
[03:14] <Twinxor> sorry, I'll stop
[03:14] <L-----D> Aesop: oh~ that's painful
[03:14] <MTecknology> ic56, yes, except for my operating systems
[03:14] <Zambezi> jrib, And nothing with rar-nonfree
[03:14] <NickGarvey> Twinxor: !anything is funnier ;)
[03:14] <Aesop> Does anyone have experience with Dual-Head monitor setups? Got a resolution problem
[03:14] <Twinxor> !anything
[03:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[03:14] <Aesop> L-----D, yeah, I usually get it ALMOST fixed then I break it again. -_-
[03:14] <warlocky> lol
[03:14] <ic56> MTecknology: ok. What are the relative sizes of hda1 and hda2?
[03:15] <warlocky> how do i check the bandwidth on ubuntu 5.10 server? I need to see my incomming/outgoing
[03:15] <Aesop> Twinxor, somehow that seems like bad grammar...
[03:15] <ic56> MTecknology: ok. how big are hda1 and hda2 right now?
[03:15] <Twinxor> keleus, yes there's a way
[03:15] <KevinIN72> Aesop: what do you mean by ssh client??
[03:15] <fish831> can someone help with setting up the built in wireless on a laptop (SIS 163)
[03:15] <cwillu> keleus: that sounds fishy;  do you actually have wine set up to directly use the device, rather than a mount?
[03:15] <Aesop> KevinIN72, are you planning to access it from a Windows or a Linux box?
[03:15] <warlocky> how do i check my incomming/outgoing bandwidth ?
[03:15] <tek> warlocky : nload for example in text mode
[03:15] <KevinIN72> Aesop: windwows
[03:15] <buzzcap> Why use Ubuntu instead of Debian?
[03:15] <jinho> Hi, is it possible to change the boot order of GRUB so that Windows comes first (my dad, whose comp illiterate, needs to use windows, which Is why I need to do this)- help is much appreciated
[03:15] <KevinIN72> Aesop: windows*
[03:15] <warlocky> "nload" tek ?
[03:15] <keleus> cwillu, yea. the program disk is safedisc2 protected and requires executable permission on the device
[03:15] <jinho> I'd like windows to automatically load if you wait long enough
[03:16] <Aesop> fish831, Wireless cards can be very tricky, please offer more information (Make of card, chipset if you know it)
[03:16] <cwillu> jinho: peek at the files in /boot I believe
[03:16] <Twinxor> keleus, adapt the directions in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows
[03:16] <tek> yep, it draw you a text graph with the network traffic
[03:16] <EnsignRedshirt> buzzcap: Fewer flames in the irc channel...
[03:16] <warlocky> root@warlock-AB:~# uname -r
[03:16] <warlocky> 2.6.12-9-686
[03:16] <Twinxor> !ntfs
[03:16] <warlocky> Is that dapper or not ? :/
[03:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:16] <MTecknology> Blank(27.17) hda2(27.17) Swap(1.55)
[03:16] <jinho> cwillu: I have- but I dont want to f-up my comp so that it doesnt start
[03:16] <apokryphos> buzzcap: /msg ubotu debian
[03:16] <Aesop> KevinIN72, Goto Google and search for 'SSH Client', find one that's free. I can't think of any off the top of my head
[03:16] <KevinIN72> Aesop: ok
[03:16] <cwillu> jinho:
[03:16] <MTecknology> ic56, Blank(27.17) hda2(27.17) Swap(1.55)
[03:16] <Aesop> KevinIN72, SSH will give you a terminal access to the machine
[03:16] <cwillu> bah, fair enough :p
[03:16] <NickGarvey> warlocky: that looks like breezy
[03:16] <keleus> Twinxor, ty
[03:16] <warlocky> thanks god ^_^
[03:16] <tek> warlocky : apt-get install nload
[03:16] <MTecknology> ic56, I would be better off resizing my hda2 to about 15G and leave the rest for OS's
[03:16] <warlocky> tek, ok
[03:16] <KevinIN72> Aesop: ew terminal
[03:17] <MTecknology> ic56, either way, I need to resize
[03:17] <ic56> MTecknology: are all these in MB?  The numbers don't seem right
[03:17] <warlocky> how to i use it tek ?
[03:17] <Twinxor> keleus, that doesn't do exactly what you want, but you should be able to figure it out
[03:17] <fish831> aesop: i know the wireless device is a SIS 163 it's built in with a usb connection
[03:17] <Aesop> KevinIN72, that's the most effecient way to access it.
[03:17] <warlocky> nevermind :-o
[03:17] <Sivik> nickrud, your lucky
[03:17] <cwillu> jinho:  /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file you're looking for
[03:17] <tek> warlocky : and after nload eth0
[03:17] <Aesop> fish831, Who makes it?
[03:17] <cwillu> same idea as c:/boot.ini on windows
[03:17] <nickrud> Sivik, no,you are. I just sat down 10 seconds ago
[03:17] <buzzcap> Are "free" and "open" the same thing?
[03:17] <apokryphos> buzzcap: no
[03:17] <KevinIN72> Aesop: is there like a java thing i can use
[03:17] <Sivik> nickrud: be happy that you have nwn working
[03:17] <warlocky> OK, tek, if i run 100/100mbit, how much should it have ?
[03:17] <Aesop> Doh.
[03:17] <buzzcap> apokryphos, what is the difference?
[03:17] <Aesop> buzzcap, No
[03:17] <MTecknology> ic56, those are Gigs
[03:17] <tek> warlocky : you can start it on boot on a console (without login)
[03:17] <Aesop> buzzcap, 'Free' as in Beer, 'Open' as in speech
[03:17] <keleus> Twinxor, seems completely unrelated... as it is i need to do "sudo chmod ug+x /dev/cdrom" for cdrom, cdrw, and dvd
[03:18] <Aesop> KevinIN72, there are commercial alternatives, but they can get expensive
[03:18] <ic56> MTecknology: 1.55 GB for swap?  Really?!
[03:18] <locao> hey, guys, I want to add another nic to my computer, but I'm having some trouble. Can anybody help me?
[03:18] <apokryphos> Aesop: no, there's more to it than that
[03:18] <cwillu> jinho: should be able to just move the 4 lines to do with the windows boot to the order you want
[03:18] <fish831> aesop: hold on one sec, I'll get you the webpage
[03:18] <Warbo> buzzcap: Free can mean gratis or libre, and Open can mean available or redistributable
[03:18] <apokryphos> buzzcap: one sec
[03:18] <buzzcap> Aesop, that definition seems somewhat flawed
[03:18] <Aesop> apokryphos, That's what I liek to call the 'easy version'
[03:18] <KevinIN72> Aesop: have you ever heard of webmin??
[03:18] <jinho> cwillu: is that it?
[03:18] <tek> for 100mbit network ... humm I don't know precisely
[03:18] <samsonasu> ok I got my 2 monitors working does anybody know how to switch which one is primary?
[03:18] <buzzcap> Warbo, gratis and libre are different
[03:18] <apokryphos> Aesop: it's incorrect :)
[03:18] <warlocky> tek, join #warlock.outcomming - i'll show you how it looks atm
[03:18] <Warbo> buzzcap: Exactly, each has 2 meanings
[03:18] <MTecknology> ic56, I felt ambitious
[03:18] <apokryphos> buzzcap: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
[03:18] <cwillu> jinho: I believe so
[03:18] <keleus> Twinxor, i have a feeling i can do it in /etc/udev/rules.d but i cant figure the files out
[03:18] <apokryphos> that is: Why ``Free Software'' is better than ``Open Source''
[03:18] <warlocky> !pastebin
[03:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:19] <cwillu> jinho:
[03:19] <cwillu> jinho: nevermind, actually do it this way
[03:19] <buzzcap> apokryphos, thank you.
[03:19] <Sivik> nickrud: i'm going to attempt to install via the cds and try and run the update again
[03:19] <cwillu> jinho: on one the entries, there's a "savedefault" line
[03:19] <Aesop> KevinIN72, Yeah. Shouldn't be too hard to install. I personally prefer SSH
[03:19] <cwillu> jinho: move it to the windows entry
[03:19] <locao> I have loaded my new nic driver, but it doesn't show up in ifconfig, can anybody help me?
[03:19] <nickrud> Sivik, a sec, there's a howto on nwn, I'll see if I recognize the one I used
[03:19] <keleus> i see this: ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*",                    GROUP="cdrom"
[03:19] <keleus> but i dont see anything that would let me change the actual permissions
[03:19] <EnsignRedshirt> If anyone know a bit about routing, especially for configuring a pptp vpn tunnel, take a look here and tell me if you see anything obviously wrong with the routing table:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16047
[03:20] <fish831> aesop: the wireless card is made by a company called sis http://www.sis.com/products/sis163.htm
[03:20] <Aesop> apokryphos, What's wrong about it? You have 'Free', which can be either as in 'Free Beer' or 'Free Speech', and 'Open', which means that you can access the source code, generally redistribute it, and modify it, thus it can also be said to be 'Free Speech'
[03:20] <ic56> MTecknology: that much space for swap isn't ambition.  It's telling yourself that are willing to keep running even if things crawl to a halt.  Anyway, you say you want room for other OSs.  How much space will you reserve for that?
[03:20] <Aesop> fish831, OK, lemme takea  look at it for a sec.
[03:20] <Sivik> nickrud, ok
[03:20] <keleus> aaah i see how to do it
[03:21] <keleus> ENV{ID_CDROM=="?*",     MODE="####"
[03:21] <MTecknology> ic56, these OS's will be within an image and held within my Ubuntu partition
[03:21] <apokryphos> Aesop: you said "free as in beer", "open as in speech". Saying "free software" does *not* mean "free as in beer", it means free as in liberty/speech
[03:21] <keleus> just i need to figure out the octal for r-xr-xr--
[03:21] <cwillu> EnsignRedshirt: can you still ping the endpoint when connected?
[03:21] <apokryphos> Aesop: as defined by fsf; /msg ubotu fsf
[03:22] <Aesop> apokryphos, but when used in conjuntion with 'open' to represent free speech it can be taken in context to mean the 'free as in beer' part of the common saying.
[03:22] <ic56> MTecknology: in which directory will that image be stored?  how big will the image be?
[03:22] <KevinIN72> Aesop: ok how do i start up mysql?
[03:22] <OniAnubis> so, whats the difference between free as in beer and free as in speech
[03:22] <Aesop> KevinIN72, if you installed it with Synaptic it should start automatically
[03:22] <LoneShadow> anyone running multiple "linux" distros on a single machine ?
[03:22] <apokryphos> Aesop: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
[03:22] <matthew_w> How would i make a program load at boot time/
[03:22] <MTecknology> ic56, probably /opersys
[03:22] <Aesop> apokryphos, I've read it
[03:22] <KevinIN72> Aesop: ok
[03:22] <elliptic> keleus: 554
[03:22] <vanberge> would anybody have any ideas at all for me to attempt an make Banshee not 'skip' ?
[03:22] <EnsignRedshirt> cwillu: The problem is that most of the time, within a few seconds of connecting, it starts sending thousands of packets.  The pptpclient web page says this might be the result of a loop in the routing, but I don't know enough to see it.
[03:23] <apokryphos> Aesop: then you know that "free software" is more than being free as in price and open
[03:23] <nickrud> Sivik, I'm almost positive this was the one: http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=391386&forum=72
[03:23] <jighead> i'm getting seg faults when when doing updates, it's hanging up on the update to libgtk2.0-bin, specifically when gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders runs, it bombs, any ideas?
[03:23] <ic56> MTecknology: and how much space will it need?
[03:23] <cwillu> matthew_w: peek at /etc/rc...
[03:23] <nickrud> 99 44/100% sure
[03:23] <Aesop> apokryphos, Didn't I already say that?
[03:23] <apokryphos> Aesop: nope
[03:23] <EnsignRedshirt> cwillu: However, there have been three or four occasions where that routing worked.  Maybe a timing thing?
[03:23] <MTecknology> ic56, between 10 and 50 Gigs
[03:23] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: Hyphens.
[03:23] <Aesop> fish831, I -think- that the wireless drivers at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ should work.
[03:24] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: Fucking hyphens.
[03:24] <matthew_w> cwillu' the file /etc/rc does not exist
[03:24] <Aesop> fish831, you might have to use the Windows Driver workaround, and I can't remember what it's called.
[03:24] <Sivik> nickrud, but i don't have just 4 dics, i have 2 normal install cds, a play cd, then the first expansion cd and the second expansiion cd
[03:24] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: They're named, after all, "Unknown Artist - [artist]  - [song] "
[03:24] <cwillu> matthew_w:  there's a bunch of folders named rc0.d, rc1.d, etc
[03:24] <nickrud> Sivik, I had only the first expansion
[03:24] <Aesop> apokryphos, Quote: "Aesop |  apokryphos, What's wrong about it? You have 'Free', which can be either as in 'Free Beer' or 'Free Speech', and 'Open', which means that you can access the source code, generally redistribute it, and modify it, thus it can also be said to be 'Free Speech" Endquote
[03:24] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: I'm getting names like "- [artist]  - [song] "
[03:25] <matthew_w> cwillu; and... what the heck are they,  and how do I apply them
[03:25] <Aesop> cvp, include the - at the end of the search string
[03:25] <paq> hmmm... what is the opposite of "to require"?
[03:25] <nickrud> Sivik, like I said, slash & burn install method. Maybe I did get lucky.
[03:25] <Aesop> cvp, Include the space after it for good measure
[03:25] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: And now you want to get rid of the leading hyphens?
[03:25] <ic56> MTecknology: how about using hda1 as your /opersys ? At 27GB it's in the middle of your expected disk consumption range.  And it's the least amount of work to setup.
[03:25] <Sivik> nickrud, lucky
[03:25] <Sivik> nickrud, i will try some other stuff
[03:25] <fish831> aesop: I'll give it a shot... thanks for your help
[03:25] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: What Aesop said...
[03:25] <cvp> Aesop: I tried, and it was giving me crap about parameters
[03:25] <matthew_w> So, yeah, how do I use /etc/rc... to make stuff start on boot?
[03:25] <Aesop> EnsignRedshirt, cvp, ooh, yeah, it's gonna be tricky because if he just tacks it on, it'l get rid of the one between 'artist' and 'title' too
[03:26] <elliptic> matthew_w: read /etc/init.d/README, /etc/init.d/skeleton and man update-rc.d
[03:26] <dbglt> is there a ubuntu package for xvidcap?
[03:26] <EnsignRedshirt> Aesop, cvp: It sounds like the files have already been renamed, and now that all start with a hyphen.
[03:26] <Aesop> dbglt, is it in the repositories?
[03:26] <eclypse> I'm getting an FGLRX error, Error: unable to open display :0
[03:26] <eclypse> any ideas?
[03:26] <nickrud> matthew_w, just add a call to the script you want run to /etc/rc.local
[03:26] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: I wasn't stupid enough to try the whole library... I still have the majority of my songs as "Unknown Artist - *"
[03:26] <MTecknology> ic56, I would prefer just resize because I will very likely peak over 40G
[03:26] <eclypse> please don't ignore
[03:26] <eclypse> I'm sick of being ignored
[03:26] <EnsignRedshirt> s/that all/they all/
[03:26] <Aesop> EnsignRedshirt, yeah, so if he jsut does a search for hyphens it'll be bad
[03:26] <matthew_w> nickrud; so just write a command in there and it's good?
[03:26] <eclypse> things started going bad after I attempted to run XGl...
[03:26] <dbglt> Aesop: nothing in repose to my apt-cache searche for it
[03:27] <Aesop> eclypse, usually if you're ignored it's because no-one knows how to fix it.
[03:27] <eclypse> or nobody cares to answe.r
[03:27] <eclypse> one of the two
[03:27] <dbglt> eclypse: head over to ubuntu-xgl for help with xgl
[03:27] <Aesop> dbglt, then probably not. YOu might be able to find an alternate repository that has it
[03:27] <dbglt> eclypse: what's the problem though?
[03:27] <EnsignRedshirt> Aesop: Worse.  If he uses * to find the files, they will appear as options to rename, maybe?
[03:27] <Aesop> eclypse, it's very rarely because no-one cares to answer
[03:27] <nickrud> matthew_w, that's it's purpose, so we don't have to teach the skeleton & update-rc.d just to allow you to run a trivial script. If it's just a line or two, put it directly into rc.local
[03:27] <eclypse> I'm not going to that channel, no activity whatsoever
[03:27] <cwillu> eclypse: or the people who know are currently in other conversations
[03:27] <eclypse> and the issue is no longer with XGL
[03:27] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: with the ones that are still "Unknown Artist - *", should I try something like: rename 's/Unknown Artist - //" *
[03:27] <eclypse> because I'm not attempting to run it
[03:27] <dbglt> eclypse: right. what's the issue then?
[03:27] <ic56> MTecknology: will that be a single image file living under /opersys or will it be several?
[03:27] <eclypse> when I run fglrxinfo I get the following error
[03:27] <Aesop> cvp, Yes
[03:28] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: Yes.  But try it first with a -n to see what will happen.
[03:28] <eclypse> Error: unable to open display :0
[03:28] <MTecknology> ic56, several
[03:28] <Aesop> EnsignRedshirt, I'm not sure.
[03:28] <cwillu> eclypse: have you ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver ?
[03:28] <eclypse> yes
[03:28] <MTecknology> ic56, several 2 or 3
[03:28] <matthew_w> nickrud; just want to run lircd, so just stick it at the bottom before exit 0?  do I have to uncomment the !bin/sh bit?
[03:28] <cwillu> eclypse: and hit the defaults for everything, and see if that works?
[03:28] <eclypse> yes.
[03:28] <Me8> Can I get to the text based installer with the liveCD?
[03:28] <cvp> EnsignRedshirt: I'm making copies while I don't know what I'm doing entirely, so it's all good.
[03:28] <Aesop> eclypse, does X start at all?
[03:28] <eclypse> yep
[03:28] <eclypse> no 3d accelleration whatsoever
[03:28] <mcrandello_> I got something wierd: "/bin/sh: -dumpversion: command not found"
[03:28] <Aesop> That's good at least...
[03:28] <nickrud> matthew_w, insert lines just above exit 0, leave the first line alone.
[03:28] <mcrandello_> anyone ever see that?
[03:29] <eclypse> it even lags at the welcom screen.
[03:29] <Aesop> eclypse, ATI or NVidia?
[03:29] <eclypse> ATI
[03:29] <Aesop> Ooh, not touching that
[03:29] <cwillu> mcrandello_: what were you doing?
[03:29] <eclypse> lol....
[03:29] <Aesop> That's why I switched to nVidia
[03:29] <eclypse> well
[03:29] <mcrandello_> trying to compile ATI's drivers
[03:29] <eclypse> I would gladly do the saem
[03:29] <eclypse> BUT, I'm on a laptop
[03:29] <mcrandello_> from the newest updated package
[03:29] <eclypse> and that doesn't seem to be an option
[03:29] <eclypse> yes
[03:29] <Aesop> Ah......
[03:29] <cwillu> eclypse: lol
[03:29] <matthew_w> nickrud; and for multiple lines (ie; multiple commands) just put them in there?  no ; after each or anything?
[03:29] <DarkMageZ> ATI card's aren't that bad
[03:29] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: Yahoo! Works beautifully.
[03:29] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: Thanks again!
[03:29] <cwillu> eclypse: just get out a soldering iron, and...
[03:29] <eclypse> they don't work for shit on linux
[03:29] <Aesop> Yeah, you're pretty much at the screwed part now. >_<
[03:29] <eclypse> lol
[03:29] <Me8> Can anyone help me with an installation problem?
[03:29] <eclypse> I don't have an extra 1500 dollars to throw around...
[03:29] <eclypse> lol
[03:30] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: np
[03:30] <dbglt> eclypse: paste up your xorg.conf and your latest xorg.log
[03:30] <Aesop> cvp, Glad to be of help
[03:30] <cwillu> eclypse: I'd check into seeing if x is allocating any system memory for the video card
[03:30] <cvp> Ooh, here's another problem...
[03:30] <cvp> not with the renaming though
[03:30] <eclypse> dbglt, I'll pastebin it right now
[03:30] <cvp> new one altogether, heh
[03:30] <eclypse> dbglt hold on.
[03:30] <nickrud> matthew_w, each command on a separate line, yes. no ; needed after each line. If in doubt, put together what you think should be in there, and put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ . I don't know lircd, but someone probably can vet it
[03:30] <Me8> ---->Installation Problem Here<----
[03:30] <ic56> MTecknology: while you have a good reason for resizing, it's a lot of work.  For one thing, if you care about your data at all, you'd have to back it up to be sure you don't lose it, should there be a power failure during your resize operation or (gasp) should accidentally erase something you shouldn't have.  I'd recommend using /dev/hda1 as /opersys.  If you exceed the available space, simply move one of the images to /op
[03:30] <Aesop> Hey, can anyone help me out with a resolution problem on a dual-head monitor configuration?
[03:30] <ic56> MTecknology: an ordinary directory in hda2
[03:30] <mcrandello_> I can't find in the make.sh where the frack that -dumpversionis supposed to be or what the heck it does
[03:31] <mcrandello_> I assume it's supposed to dump a version number somewhere
[03:31] <matthew_w> thanks nickrud'
[03:31] <cwillu> mcrandello_: you have build-essential et al installed right?
[03:31] <MTecknology> ic56, I have backups made
[03:31] <Me8> ---->Installation Problem Here<----
[03:31] <mcrandello_> just reinstalled it
[03:31] <ic56> MTecknology: if you have backups.  Then why not just re-install?
[03:31] <cwillu> mcrandello_: try doing a synaptic search for 'dumpversion', or google it to see what package might have it;  once you know that, apt-get install it and try the build again
[03:31] <cvp> I switched to the 686 kernel because I heard it would be better for my P4 processor in terms of hyperthreading, but when the diagnostic information is running up the screen before the welcome screen (y'know, initializing all that crap), at some point at the end the text turns into garbage. Everything else about the kernel is absolutely dandy, just the frightening gibberish just before it's finished booting. I use an ATI graphics card.
[03:32] <eclypse> dbglt: where is that log, again?
[03:32] <Me8> Can anyone help me with an installation problem?
[03:32] <Warbo> Anyone know how to prevent metacity from starting? I have got enlightenment going at login, but there is a huge delay when it starts trying to load Metacity
[03:32] <cvp> Me8: Installation of what?
[03:32] <Me8> Dapper
[03:32] <cwillu> cvp: custom compiled kernel or just out of the ubuntu repository
[03:32] <mcrandello_> cwillu good idea
[03:32] <EnsignRedshirt> Me8: Just describe the problem--someone might have an answer.
[03:32] <PORDO> how can i copy all files in a directory, including hidden?
[03:32] <cvp> cwillu: just out of the repository
[03:32] <Warbo> PORDO: I would copy the directory itself
[03:32] <cvp> Me8: From formatted hard drive or from Hoary?
[03:33] <dbglt> eclypse: which?
[03:33] <MTecknology> ic56, I don't want to reinstall my software I Want To Resize My Partition
[03:33] <eclypse> the xorg log
[03:33] <ic56> MTecknology: I'll answer my own question: you want to experience resizing.  Fine.  The answer is the "parted" utility and its GUI counterpart "gparted".  They can resize your hda2.  I don't know if they can grow it backwards but you'll have fun trying it out.
[03:33] <dbglt> eclypse: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:33] <cwillu> cvp: that's all I got :p;  I'm a stock kernel.org kernel though, and I don't even get a bootup screen at all;  pretty much benign though
[03:33] <eclypse> k
[03:33] <eclypse> does anyone know how I can directly send files through a single LAN cord from Linux to Windows?
[03:33] <eclypse> I don't have a router
[03:33] <MTecknology> ic56, No, gparted will not size backward, that's why I'm here
[03:34] <cwillu> eclypse: need a crossover cable
[03:34] <cvp> cwillu: s'all good, I didn't really expect anyone to have an answer for this. Thanks anyway!
[03:34] <eclypse> damn
[03:34] <eclypse> well
[03:34] <dbglt> crossover cable you can
[03:34] <eclypse> I don't see why it wouldn
[03:34] <dbglt> yeah
[03:34] <eclypse> wouldn't work
[03:34] <eclypse> because, I got internet connection sharing working
[03:34] <dbglt> you can make one with a normal lan cord
[03:34] <eclypse> meaning, they're transfering files
[03:34] <Me8> I want to install the desktop version of Dapper, but I need to use logical volumes to combine two hard drives. In the text installer, this is no problem, but in the livecd installer, I can't select the LV. So, can I circumvent the livecd installer and get the text menus?
[03:34] <dbglt> or they cost like $5-10AUD
[03:34] <Sivik> how do i go about getting the acpi modules to allow me to scan with my wireless card?
[03:34] <dbglt> (not a lot)
[03:34] <eugman> So why is the cool stuff on the .nl site of ubuntu?
[03:34] <ic56> MTecknology: if parted can't do it, I don't think it's doable, but we can ask...
[03:34] <cwillu> eclypse: without a crossover, the send and receive wires aren't in the right spot on the other side;  most routers have circuitry built in to detect and flip the write, but most network cards don't
[03:34] <avallach> if they're already communicating then it should be fairly easy...
[03:34] <eclypse> ic
[03:34] <PORDO> that worked Warbo ..thanks
[03:35] <avallach> just setup an FTP server on one of the boxes or set up a windows hare & Samba
[03:35] <eclypse> can anyone send me a link to a fairly reasonable price for a crossover cable? preferrably 10ft
[03:35] <MTecknology> ic56, I did
[03:35] <eugman> Me8, I think you'll have to use the alternative cd and use a text install.
[03:35] <ic56> gparted cannot resize a partition backwards into previous cylinders of the disk.  Is there an utility that can?
[03:35] <cwillu> avallach eclypse: need to get a link light first :)
[03:35] <eclypse> a what now?
[03:35] <avallach> didnt he just say they were communicating and ICS was working?
[03:35] <eclypse> yep
[03:35] <keleus> anyone know of a good fire-and-forget utility for sharing a single file through HTTP?
[03:35] <cwillu> eclypse: little light that comes on by the socket when something is plugged in on both ends
[03:35] <Warbo> Anyone know how to turn off Metacity? (stop it from starting)
[03:35] <Me8> So it's not possible to enter something at the boot: prompt to go straight to the install?
[03:36] <eclypse> yes, I HAVE that
[03:36] <eclypse> lmao
[03:36] <PORDO> how do i change the splash again?  i forget this every time..
[03:36] <avallach> then you dont need a crossover cable.  the cable just gets you a link light.
[03:36] <ic56> MTecknology: know how to ask is the key.
[03:36] <cwillu> avallach eclypse, ahhh, well nevermind then :)
[03:36] <eclypse> umm
[03:36] <eclypse> ok
[03:36] <eclypse> I'm confused here
[03:36] <nickrud> Warbo, the only method I know is sys-prefs-sessions, and set metacity to normal and kill it.
[03:36] <eclypse> how would I transfer files
[03:36] <vanberge> quick poll:  what is everyone's favorite app to manage/update/sync ipods ??
[03:36] <cvp> vanberge: gtkpod
[03:36] <paq> vanberge, amarok
[03:36] <cvp> vanberge: listen to paq, I've only ever used gtkpod
[03:37] <Warbo> nickrud: That will stop it from REstarting yes, but I want to stop it loading at login (it is not in the session options to remove)
[03:37] <avallach> eclypse: if they're already talking, then that hurdle's done.  you either need to setup a windows share and use samba, or put an FTP server on one of the boxes, or whatever.
[03:37] <paq> amarok is pretty awesome, just give it a shot
[03:37] <eclypse> how would I set up a FTP server on windows?
[03:37] <eugman> Keleus, dhttpd may be what you need.
[03:37] <cwillu> eclypse: are you running a firewall behind windows?  if so, you could just share a folder on your windows machine and connect to it from linux (should work out of the box)
[03:37] <nickrud> Warbo, if you kill it after setting it to normal, it won't start until you manually do it (pretty darn sure)
[03:37] <vanberge> eclypse: mozilla makes one
[03:37] <avallach> eclypse: what version of windows do you have
[03:37] <eclypse> XP
[03:37] <avallach> pro or home
[03:38] <eclypse> home
[03:38] <cvp> paq: is amarok user-friendly?
[03:38] <Warbo> nickrud: Not until you log in again. I want to stop it from loading at login because I don;t want to use it as my WM
[03:38] <mcrandello_> Ah
[03:38] <avallach> ahh...like van said...mozilla makes one
[03:38] <keleus> hmm dhttpd looks like it would work
[03:38] <L-----D> on windows? Serv U
[03:38] <avallach> xp pro has one built in
[03:38] <eclypse> ok
[03:38] <eclypse> can someone link me to the mozilla one?
[03:38] <eclypse> I'm on dialup so
[03:38] <nickrud> Warbo, with gnome? havoc made that damned hard
[03:38] <ic56> MTecknology: I googled and don't find any hits.  I don't think there are any tools for resizing partitions backward.  I've given you some other options.  You'll probably have to use those.
[03:38] <mcrandello_> cwillu: dumpversion is a compiler option that unsurprisingly, dumps the compiler version
[03:38] <paq> cvp, yes, its the the best media player you can find for linux right now. just get it, seeing is believing :)
[03:38] <avallach> yeah http://www.google.com
[03:38] <PORDO> customizing the splash...anyone?
[03:39] <mcrandello_> I guess it's time to look for stray carriage returns int he makefile
[03:39] <vanberge> eclypse: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1491
[03:39] <cvp> paq: better than even VLC??
[03:39] <cwillu> heh;  do they specify which compiler version you need?
[03:39] <paq> cvp, it's for audio. it's basically "itunes done right"
[03:39] <MTecknology> I have hda2 set in the middle of my HD, I want to move hda2 to the beginning of the drive so I can resize it. Unless there is any way to resize a partitioin backward or merge two... any help???
[03:39] <cvp> PORDO: I'm interested in that, too, actually... so I fully approve of your nagging.
[03:39] <mcrandello_> no but it seems to spawn another error about no rule to make something.a.GCC4
[03:39] <nickrud> Warbo, I did that with sawfish a while back, lemme think a bit
[03:39] <eclypse> dude, avallach, you don't lead a dialup user to a search engine, thats just wrong...
[03:39] <mcrandello_> so I guess that's why there's no rule
[03:39] <cvp> paq: Oh, ok. Sweet, thanks.
[03:39] <j1p> the wiki says to install flashplugin-nonfree to get the mozilla plugin of flash, but i get that package doesnt exist in Dapper, multiverse/universe are enabled
[03:40] <Warbo> nickrud: There are gconf options all over the place, but so far I have found that adding enlightenment to ~/.gnomerc loads it at login before Metacity, but Metacity still tries to start and makes about a minute wait before anything else starts (like gdesklets)
[03:40] <avallach> i was on dialup for many years...and i used search engines.
[03:40] <PORDO> cvp i've done it before, i just forget how you do it.
[03:40] <eclypse> also, dbglt, heres the pastebin for the xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/722408
[03:40] <cwillu> mcrandello_: my first impression would be that there's something wrong with the makefile (i.e., that command shouldn't be getting to a shell call, but it is somehow)
[03:40] <nickrud> Warbo, that tickles a memory, yes
[03:40] <mcrandello_> this is on the newly updated xorg-driver-fglrx package so I bet there will be more Q's about dumpversion or libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4
[03:40] <cwillu> mcrandello_: but so far today, I'm 0 for 3 on first impressions :)
[03:40] <eclypse> I have the slowest dialup you can possibly immagine
[03:40] <L-----D> !font
[03:40] <ubotu> Installing fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[03:40] <mcrandello_> yeah someone missed their coffee then hit the enter button I bet
[03:40] <cvp> eclypse: I doubt that.
[03:41] <EnsignRedshirt> j1p: Maybe flashplayer-mozilla?
[03:41] <Warbo> nickrud: I have done it previously by making /usr/bin/metacity a link pointing to /usr/bin/enlightenment, but I don't want it system-wide this time
[03:41] <ic56> MTecknology: actually, seeing as hda1 and hda2 are teh same size, you can copy hda2 over to hda1.  Adjusting the booting sequence and ensuring your don't overwrite the wrong sectors is tricky but if you can find someone with the patience to walk you through it, it's doable.
[03:41] <j1p> EnsignRedshirt, no package again
[03:41] <eclypse> I'm the second to the slowest I've ever seen
[03:41] <eclypse> I connect at 24.6kbs
[03:41] <eclypse> download at 2.4kbs
[03:41] <eclypse> upload at 1.3
[03:41] <eclypse> also, dbglt, heres the pastebin for the xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/722408
[03:41] <nickrud> Warbo, it's something to do with /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager I think. looking
[03:42] <ic56> MTecknology: once your Ubuntu filesystem is in hda1, you can the use parted to shrink it and then free hda2
[03:42] <cvp> eclypse: You've never lived the days when 14.4kbps was fast...
[03:42] <vanberge> paq: you're right..  amarok owns.
[03:42] <raiffrhg> Hello guys....
[03:42] <raiffrhg> checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.3 libgift >= 0.10.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[03:42] <raiffrhg> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.3 libgift >= 0.10.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[03:42] <vanberge> paq: i am using it now, it really rocks!
[03:42] <MTecknology> ic56, I thought about it, but that seems dangerous
[03:42] <raiffrhg> how can i solve this?:!!?!?!?!
[03:42] <eclypse> cvp, my other line connects at 12.8
[03:43] <cwillu> raiffrhg: what are you doing?
[03:43] <paq> vanberge, sure thing :)
[03:43] <raiffrhg> i'm trying to install giftoxic
[03:43] <ic56> MTecknology: it *is* dangerous.  But you said you've backed up everything.  So if you screw up it doesn't matter.  Right?
[03:43] <cwillu> raiffrhg: do you have the dev libs for gtk installed?
[03:43] <Warbo> raiffrhg: try installing the -dev packages of whatever it asks for
[03:43] <EnsignRedshirt> j1p: Have you hit Reload in Synaptic, or run apt-get update, after enabling multiverse?
[03:43] <raiffrhg> ./configure
[03:43] <j1p> yep
[03:43] <raiffrhg> i'm new in linux...
[03:43] <MTecknology> ic56, It matters for time sake
[03:44] <raiffrhg> i did in terminal apt-get install gtk but returns me that no package are found...
[03:44] <dbglt> eclypse: did you paste up the log?
[03:44] <raiffrhg> was found...
[03:44] <cwillu> raiffrhg: search in synaptic for gtk;  it's not just called gtk
[03:44] <mcrandello_> it's the danger what seperates the admin from the adboys
[03:44] <eclypse> dbglt, I'm pasting it now
[03:44] <raiffrhg> i did it ...
[03:44] <dbglt> ok
[03:44] <raiffrhg> but nothings...
[03:44] <Warbo> raiffrhg: System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager. Search for what it asks for and install any packages ending in -dev which seem sensible
[03:44] <ic56> MTecknology: Assuming your hda1 is *NOT* smaller than hda2, then use: dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda1 skip=1 seek=1 bs=512
[03:45] <EnsignRedshirt> j1p: Strange. I'm still using breezy, so I can't check this, but this page also says flashplugin-nonfree should be in multiverse: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/flashplugin-nonfree
[03:45] <eclypse> there seems to be a max ammount of lines that can be posted in pastebin...
[03:45] <dooglus> Warbo: this is what I use to start GNOME with e17 instead of metacity: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16149
[03:45] <ic56> MTecknology: this will copy the entire contents of hda2 over to hda1, except for the 1st sector, thus leaving your MBR untouched.
[03:45] <nickrud> Warbo, well, gnome doesn't respect x-window-manager any more
[03:45] <raiffrhg> i'll try again search for gtk in synaptics....
[03:45] <j1p> thanks EnsignRedshirt
[03:46] <MTecknology> ic56, where will my MBR look for the boot record then?
[03:46] <raiffrhg> always i have dificulty in ./configure
[03:46] <Warbo> nickrud: Yes, there are options for WM switching all over the place but none seem to work :(
[03:46] <raiffrhg> package not found
[03:46] <raiffrhg> package not found
[03:46] <raiffrhg> package not found
[03:46] <SirGroky> I have a strange problem, while running adept, the installation of a few pacakages broke, and now I can not run apt-get upgrade without the output of "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[03:46] <eclypse> dbglt, it wont let me paste the full ammount.....
[03:46] <SirGroky> I don't have dpkg.
[03:46] <raiffrhg> always...
[03:46] <Warbo> dooglus: Is it even possible (or sensible) to use E17 and GNOME? Anyway, I will adapt that to E16 thanks
[03:46] <L-----D> hey, is there a way to invite the ubotu to #ubuntu-cn
[03:46] <raiffrhg> i'm coming from windows...
[03:47] <raiffrhg> but i'll not give up...
[03:47] <nickrud> Warbo, dooglus's desktop entry seems definitely worth trying
[03:47] <ic56> MTecknology: then go into grub and tell it that hda1 is a second Ubuntu boot partition.  Then try to reboot into that partition.  If it works, you can now now remove your hda2.
[03:47] <cwillu> raiffrhg: how are you searching?  there should at the very least be some hits that are already installed
[03:48] <dooglus> Warbo: yes.  why not?
[03:48] <dooglus> Warbo: that pastebin I made shows how I do it
[03:48] <raiffrhg> my ubuntu is in portuguese...
[03:48] <raiffrhg> i'll try to translate...
[03:48] <MTecknology> ic56, so I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to use hda1 instead of hda2??
[03:48] <SirGroky> Does anyone know how to help me out?
[03:48] <mcrandello_> okay here's the culprit: "GCC_VER_MAJ      = $(shell $$CC -dumpversion | cut -f1 -d.)"
[03:48] <L-----D> !invite help
[03:48] <PORDO> cvp the splash is controlled by a setting in gconf-edotir
[03:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about invite help
[03:48] <raiffrhg> i pushed... in Search...
[03:48] <PORDO> cvp the splash is controlled by a setting in gconf-editor
[03:48] <ic56> MTecknology: if your hda2 is a little bigger than your hda1, then resize it first with gparted -- make it smaller so when you copy it, it will fit in hda1.
[03:48] <cwillu> raiffrhg: shoudln't matter I don't think
[03:48] <SurfnKid> anyone know a website to find Prism Chipset Manuf. Like Netgear, Linksys
[03:48] <raiffrhg> typed gtk
[03:48] <dbglt> eclypse: you are trying to use the proprietry driver?
[03:48] <mcrandello_> anyone know why that would make a poopy on me?
[03:48] <geeksauce> is there any way to bind a key combination to lock my screen?  or is there a built-in hotkey kind of thing?
[03:48] <eclypse> dbglt, yues
[03:49] <raiffrhg> but what you'll say... i'll try  here...
[03:49] <raiffrhg> no problem...
[03:49] <Warbo> dooglus: Is that "starte17 GNOME" an actual command which is specific to E17? Will I have to make some kind of script to bind E16 to GNOME since it doesn't have this feature?
[03:49] <raiffrhg> i'll pushed search...
[03:49] <ic56> MTecknology: you edit menu.st to use *both* hda1 *and* hda2.  This way, if it doesn't work, you can still boot in hda2 and try to figure out what you did wrong.
[03:49] <ic56> MTecknology: s/st/lst/
[03:49] <dbglt> eclypse: 87.         Driver    "ati" - should be ( Driver "fglrx")
[03:49] <ryanakca> is there a boot floppy of ubuntu server?
[03:49] <MTecknology> aight
[03:49] <eFoX> hey hey
[03:50] <cwillu> raiffrhg: 'Edit' menu | Search
[03:50] <ic56> MTecknology: good luck!
[03:50] <mcrandello_> Ooh I think I'm onto something
[03:50] <cwillu> you should have a whole bunch of packages show up, most of which aren't even related to gtk :)
[03:50] <eclypse> dbglt, it always screws up when I use that driver...
[03:50] <cwillu> mcrandello_: do tell :)
[03:50] <eFoX> i previously had wlan0 and i dont know what i did, but now THATS gone, and in place i have eth1
[03:50] <Warbo> ryanakca: I dount the kernel will fit on a floppy, let alone the initrd (I use a boot CD)
[03:50] <dooglus> Warbo: starte17 is just a little script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16150
[03:50] <dbglt> eclypse: ... that's the correct one
[03:50] <eFoX> and i cant connect to my wireless network or even scan with iwlist scan
[03:50] <mcrandello_> $$CC <- that should be an environment variable pointing to whatever version of cc you have right?
[03:50] <dbglt> eclypse: what card are you using?
[03:50] <ryanakca> I'm going to be installing ubuntu server onto an old server at school. however (afaik), the box only boots from floppy although the box has a cdrom drive...
[03:51] <jighead> geeksauce, system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts has an entry for lock screen, you can set it as you see fit
[03:51] <geeksauce> like in xp, i just hit ctrl+alt+del then enter, and it locks my session.  is there any keyboard shortcut for that in ubuntu??
[03:51] <eclypse> ATI mobility radeon x300
[03:51] <dooglus> Warbo: take a look - it's very simple.  you just set WINDOW_MANAGER to be the wm you want, then run gnome-session
[03:51] <eclypse> pci-e
[03:51] <geeksauce> jighead, thanks
[03:51] <eclypse> 64mb dedicated
[03:51] <MTecknology> ic56, I'm going to rebackup first
[03:51] <dbglt> eclypse: it is covered by the propietary driver I take it?
[03:51] <mcrandello_> maybe not, I'm not to smart with makefiles
[03:51] <Warbo> dooglus: I was thinking along those lines, and now I don't even have to write my own script. Thanks
[03:51] <dbglt> eclypse: (have you checked)? I assume it is
[03:51] <ic56> MTecknology: good plan. What sw do you use to backup?
[03:52] <dooglus> Warbo: I didn't write it.  I can't remember whether it came with the e17 sources, or whether it's part of the sid package.
[03:52] <Warbo> dooglus: (I wasn;t even sure if the export WINDOW_MANAGER was even still used by GNOME actually)
[03:52] <eclypse> probably
[03:52] <MTecknology> ic56, gnome-terminal; cp -R */ */
[03:52] <dooglus> Warbo: I hadn't even looked at the script before - but I have run it, and it works
[03:52] <eFoX> How do you connect to a wireless network ? Why isn't my iwlist scan not bringin up any results ?
[03:53] <MTecknology> ic56, I prefer to not trust software for backups like this
[03:53] <MrBrizzio> lol
[03:53] <ic56> MTecknology: goodness!  not dump?  not even tar or cpio?  You're asking for trouble.  What are you baking up?
[03:53] <EnsignRedshirt> ryanakca: I've never used it, but you might want to take a look at "Smart Boot Manager": http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[03:53] <cwillu> raiffrhg: if you get that far, you'll probably need anything that has the words gtk and dev in it (libgtk, etc)
[03:53] <dooglus> Warbo: are you familiar with freenx?
[03:53] <MrBrizzio> if it isn;t not bringing up results it must be working
[03:53] <cwillu> so, who here is an smb guru?
[03:53] <Warbo> dooglus: I've never used it, no
[03:53] <MTecknology> ic56, all I'm doing now is /home/michael/ without the music
[03:54] <dooglus> Warbo: it seems to be like VNC, only very efficient
[03:54] <ic56> MTecknology: so, you're not backing up the OS config?  You don't care if you lose it?!
[03:54] <KevinIN72> Ok how do i get php on my server??
[03:54] <HBuzacott> KevinIN72, apt-get install php
[03:54] <KevinIN72> HBuzacott: thanks
[03:54] <cwillu> dooglus: it's basically native X like you would get using ssh -XC, only optimized to eliminate 90% of the round trips
[03:54] <MTecknology> ic56, not too drastically, all I really care about is my personal configuration and documents
[03:55] <oni-dracula> does anyone know what four short beeps means during BIOS POST?
[03:55] <dbglt> eclypse: make sure. You can choose to use either the ati driver (the free one - but you will get no 3d acceleration) or the one provided by ati (propriety one - with 3d acceleration)
[03:55] <Warbo> ryanakca: To boot hardware which is unsupported by the BIOS you need a kernel and initrd image on something which are. The default Ubuntu kernel and image are far too big for a floppy, so you will have to make your own kernel (if you strip out everything unneeded, then compile in the things you want, you will have a tiny kernel which doesn't need an initrd)
[03:55] <dbglt> eclypse: either handle 2d fine
[03:55] <cwillu> KevinIN72: something along the lines of apt-get install php or php-apache or something should work
[03:55] <HBuzacott> KevinIN72, make sure yiu add the version number that you want t o install at the end, eg. php5
[03:55] <dooglus> cwillu: freenx sessions can be suspended and resumed later from a different machine, right?
[03:55] <Flannel> !tell KevinIN72 about lamp
[03:55] <ic56> MTecknology: that cp command you showed me... the arguments look wrong.  Why 2 stars?!
[03:55] <eclypse> dbglt, its not a matter of drivers, it seems to be deeper then that...
[03:55] <Warbo> dooglus: I have only used VNC in order to use vnc2swf as a screen capture tool
[03:55] <cwillu> dooglus:  believe so;  the same trickery that makes it fast allows it to do that too
[03:56] <petrik> How can I get an icon on my desktop for a new dirve I have mounted?
[03:56] <eclypse> dbglt, and it isant handling 2d well at allk
[03:56] <eclypse> I've seen much better out of it
[03:56] <smahoney> Anyone have any idea what's going on here?  Whenever I activate compiz, my computer totally freezes after a couple seconds
[03:56] <dooglus> cwillu: I tried earlier.  I started a session locally, then went to a windows machine.  the windows machine could see the susended session, but wouldn't attempt to resume it.
[03:56] <KevinIN72> so if i install this i can have php on my computer right
[03:56] <Flannel> KevinIN72: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP will tell you specific package names.
[03:56] <SurfnKid> anyone know a good USB Wifi Adapter based on the Prism Chipset?
[03:56] <cwillu> eclypse: my impression is really that it doesn't have much video ram reserved;  not dead sure how to check that though
[03:57] <cwillu> eclypse: something in the xorg logs though
[03:57] <Firebird8> whats the comman to unpackage a tar file?
[03:57] <SurfnKid> 80211g preferribly
[03:57] <Flannel> KevinIN72: but yeah, just "php" will install php, but won't allow it to interface with apache, if that's what you were trying to do.
[03:57] <eclypse> cwillu, I can send you the log directly, pastebin wont support all the lines...
[03:57] <dooglus> Firebird8: "tar xf file.tar"
[03:57] <Flannel> smahoney: #ubuntu-xgl for compiz/xgl questions
[03:57] <SurfnKid> tar
[03:57] <dooglus> Firebird8: or "tar xf file.tar.gz"
[03:57] <smahoney> Oh, sweet!  Thanks Flannel
[03:57] <Firebird8> thx
[03:57] <cwillu> dooglus: using the freenx version or the official nx software?
[03:57] <KevinIN72> Flannel: im trying to set up a website with Nuke-Evolution Basic
[03:57] <cwillu> eclypse: one sec, I'll see if I can find a specific command to find it
[03:57] <dooglus> cwillu: the freenx version of the server, with the official clients
[03:58] <Flannel> KevinIN72: read that wiki page, it'll get you all setup.
[03:58] <MTecknology> ic56, the * was my personal wild card the command I use it cp -R -a -f /home/michael/ /media/DATA/
[03:58] <KevinIN72> Flannel: k
[03:58] <dooglus> cwillu: using the pre-built konetix (sp?) binaries
[03:58] <mcrandello_> wow the guys in #gcc are a quiet bunch
[03:58] <eclypse> cwillu, k
[03:58] <EnsignRedshirt> ryanakca: I think this is the "Smart Boot Manager" this I was thinking of: http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[03:58] <EnsignRedshirt> ryanakca: I don't know if that is related to the other link that I gave you.
[03:59] <cwillu> eclypse: pastebin the output of
[03:59] <Warbo> EnsignRedshirt: Is that still supported? (I don;t think it can access hardware which is not supported by the BIOS either, just like GRUB)
[03:59] <cwillu> eclypse: grep "ram" /var/log/Xorg*
[03:59] <ic56> MTecknology: you should at least add a -p flag
[03:59] <patrick_> ok, its me eclypse, I'm on the laptop
[03:59] <patrick_> k.
[03:59] <rigonatti> hi all
[03:59] <ic56> MTecknology: ah, never mind, I see the -a flag implies -p
[04:00] <patrick_> can you repeat that command again?
[04:00] <rigonatti> how do i complete remove gnome from my desktop ?
[04:00] <Warbo> rigonatti: "sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome"?
[04:00] <EnsignRedshirt> Warbo: I don't know, I haven't tried it.  But if I had a non-bootable CD-ROM, I would try that first before trying to roll my own mini-kernel.
[04:00] <nickrud> rigonatti, without removing a lot of the useful ubuntu tools, not very easy
[04:00] <Flannel> rigonatti: you'll need to use deborphan, to get all the libraries and stuff gone
[04:00] <patrick_> cwillu, can you repeat that command please? this is eclypse.
[04:01] <cwillu> grep "ram" /var/log/Xorg*
[04:01] <Firebird8> how do u change permisions of a file?
[04:01] <dooglus> Flannel: debfoster is probably easier to use than deborphan
[04:01] <patrick_> k
[04:01] <ic56> MTecknology: If were you, I would at least also backup /etc .
[04:01] <dooglus> Firebird8: chmod
[04:01] <Warbo> EnsignRedshirt: I have had lots of experience with bootup stuff and I think the SMB is just a fancy chainloading program (you NEED a kernel with driver support for your inteded boot device, and if you use a Linux kernel then you don't need to chainload anything)
[04:01] <Flannel> rigonatti: deborphan apparently, rather than debfoster
[04:01] <MTecknology> ic56, what does that do?
[04:02] <kenny> aye, anyone installed a Linsys USB wireless adaptor recently (ubuntu dapper 6.06) trying with USB11v4.inf && ndiswrapper atm
[04:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Warbo: So putting a bootable CDROM in the CD drive and booting with SBR wouldn't work?
[04:02] <ic56> MTecknology: most (not all) of the system config is in /etc.  If you screw up and need to re-install, if something doesn't work after you've reinstalled, you can look to see what the config files were before.
[04:02] <KevinIN72> Flannel: is installin mysql with php5 fine
[04:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Warbo: (I mean, booting with an SBR floppy, of course)
[04:03] <MTecknology> ic56, aight
[04:03] <Rug> Howdy all
[04:03] <mcrandello> Hah, got it: "GCC_VER_MAJ     = 4" <-take THAT, ATI
[04:03] <Warbo> EnsignRedshirt: My assumption would be that it wouldn't (but I would still test it because I am often an idiot)
[04:03] <nickrud> rigonatti, unless you have really limited bandwith (for updates) it's easiest to just leave gnome alone, and not use it. You'll need to carefully research the packages debfoster wants to remove, to avoid removing something you will want later.
[04:03] <cwillu> mcrandello: lol
[04:04] <Flannel> KevinIN72: yep, that's what that page goes through
[04:04] <ic56> MTecknology: I'm off.  l8r!
[04:04] <KevinIN72> Flannel: ok yeah that is what im doin than
[04:04] <jshriver> Greetings
[04:04] <MTecknology> ic56, NO
[04:04] <MTecknology> ic56, I need help!!!
[04:04] <jshriver> anyone here use perl? I can't get any modules to work under Ubuntu
[04:04] <jshriver> trying:
[04:04] <jshriver> perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Bundle::CPAN"' or whatver modules
[04:04] <jshriver> they always break
[04:05] <dooglus> jshriver: a lot of modules are available through synaptic
[04:05] <nickrud> jshriver, most of the cpan modules are already in ubuntu, try searching synaptic
[04:05] <patrick_> cwillu, http://pastebin.com/722446
[04:05] <MTecknology> nm, ic56, I'll figure it out - I hope
[04:05] <cwillu> jshriver: perl installed via synaptic or apt-get, right?
[04:05] <MattSta> How can i stop my videos from play so, shaky
[04:05] <Rug> In breezy there was an addon/app/util that you could add to the top panel that lets you run a command/app by typing in it's name. (Similar to Run Command:   )  I can't find it in Dapper.
[04:05] <rigonatti> its true...but seem that gnome have poor aplications for all ...
[04:05] <jshriver> hrm? but it's usually easier just to -MCPAN it.. no time
[04:05] <jshriver> yeah I installed perl using apt-get install perl5 I think.. perl something
[04:05] <init_6> Anyone in here use Verizon Wireless Kyocera 650 EVDO card?
[04:06] <dooglus> jshriver: ubuntu uses synaptic/apt-get to install packages, not perl -MCPAN -e ...
[04:06] <cwillu> jshriver: that's all I got, sorry;  might see if you can find anything googling re: debian instead of ubuntu if you couldn't find it before
[04:06] <jshriver> well it always worked in debian, so figured it'd work in ubuntu too..
[04:06] <cwillu> dooglus: perl modules should be installable via perl though, unless it's broken;  much like python modules
[04:06] <jshriver> -MCPAN doesnt really install things like program packages.. just installes the .pm in the right place
[04:07] <Kyral> which is bad why?
[04:07] <Warbo> Yay, I added the E16-GNOME session, but it turns out there is one already (E-GNOME) ! I'm so stupid, anyway I am logging out now.
[04:07] <cwillu> what is bad?
[04:07] <Kyral> I'd say about 70% of all CPAN Modules AREN'T packaged
[04:07] <patrick_> cwillu, did you check out that pastebin?
[04:07] <tylerofl> has anyone managed to get WMA working on Rhythmbox?
[04:07] <jbwiv> guys, anyone running Xen successfully with Dapper _including_ LVM?
[04:07] <cwillu> patrick_: sorry, I didn't see you paste it
[04:07] <jshriver> looking for Net::OSCAR in synaptic.. nice tool but I prefer apt-get/apt-cache though
[04:07] <cwillu> got the link again?
[04:07] <patrick_> cwillu, http://pastebin.com/722446
[04:07] <cwillu> thx
[04:08] <jshriver> Net::Oscar isn't in synaptic so am I screwed?
[04:08] <Kyral> I got it running with Debian and LVM :P
[04:08] <jbwiv> Kyral: did you have to do a custom kernel compile?
[04:08] <Kyral> jshriver: just run cpan install Net::Oscar as root
[04:08] <sponix> so, anyone in here made a usb linksys wireless adaptor work (dapper) ?
[04:08] <Kyral> jbwiv: of course
[04:08] <Sivik> nickrud, did you ever beat the orginial modules?
[04:08] <jshriver> Kyral, tried.. but every modules I try breaks
[04:08] <jbwiv> Kyral: was that specifically to support LVM? I'm just trying to use the binary distro
[04:08] <nickrud> Sivik, no, I got bored during chapter 2
[04:09] <Sivik> nickrud, lol
[04:09] <Kyral> jbwiv: "specifically"? I just compiled it and the LVM services loaded
[04:09] <Sivik> nickrud, i almost beat it once, but then i was 3 levels too low
[04:09] <jbwiv> Kyral: I suppose you mean compiled the kernel, not compiled Xen?
[04:09] <Sivik> nickrud, so i couldn't
[04:09] <Kyral> I never consciously touched it
[04:09] <Sivik> nickrud, and tried and tried to replay, but got really busy
[04:09] <jshriver> hrm didnt know there was an actual command called span
[04:09] <jshriver> cspan rather. trying now
[04:09] <Kyral> jbwiv: I mean the kernel. I just let the LVM servers start
[04:09] <nickrud> jshriver, I avoid perl like the plague, but by definition it should work. I'd bug the developers mercilessly if I truly used them
[04:09] <Kyral> and I also compiled Xen
[04:10] <Sgeo> Are any websites currently running off the Ubuntu LAMP install thing?
[04:10] <cwillu> patrick_: okay, this is a bit of a shot in the dark, but try this:
[04:10] <Kyral> basically "make world && make install"
[04:10] <jbwiv> Kyral: but...why did you compile the kernel?
[04:10] <cwillu> patrick_: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:10] <Kyral> jbwiv: Call me an old timer, BUT WHY NOT?!
[04:10] <Kyral> I mean how else are you gonna install the thing?
[04:10] <cwillu> patrick_: find Section "Device" that looks like your video card (ati whatever, right?)
[04:10] <jbwiv> Kyral: heh...well, you can use the kernels Xen provides ;-)
[04:10] <patrick_> yes
[04:10] <jshriver> Any OSS games in Ubuntu you recommend? I have multiverse and universe set..
[04:10] <jshriver> I like gltron
[04:11] <cwillu> patrick_: and add a line to the end of that section:
[04:11] <cwillu> patrick_: VideoRam    8192
[04:11] <nickrud> frozen bubble
[04:11] <Kyral> jbwiv: Ah you used the binary package
[04:11] <SurfnKid> anyone heard of Ashton Digital 802.11 Prism 2 chipset?
[04:11] <Kyral> jbwiv: I used the source one :D
[04:11] <KevinIN72> Flannel: cannot find phpmyadmin
[04:11] <cwillu> patrick_: make a backup first though
[04:11] <patrick_> how would I do that?
[04:11] <cwillu> (I _think_ gedit does, but I'm not sure)
[04:11] <Sgeo> nickrud: That's evil, recommending such an addicting game ;(
[04:11] <jbwiv> Kyral: precisely.
[04:11] <Sgeo> ;)
[04:11] <SurfnKid> is there a Prism Chipset 802.11g USB adapter anyone knows about
[04:11] <jshriver> will check out frozen bubble thanks :)
[04:11] <nickrud> and gl-117
[04:11] <cwillu> patrick_: save a copy somewhere else first :)
[04:11] <jbwiv> Kyral: I suppose I'll try the source now ;-)
[04:11] <jbwiv> thanks
[04:11] <patrick_> ic
[04:11] <nickrud> Sgeo, I'm a pusher, and happy to be called so ;)
[04:11] <cwillu> jshriver: looking for games?
[04:12] <patrick_> also
[04:12] <Kyral> For something as low level as Xen, it feels RIGHT compiling from source :D
[04:12] <jshriver> yeah
[04:12] <patrick_> should I add "s on the number?
[04:12] <jshriver> Installed RTCW and Quake3 :) that's been fun
[04:12] <cwillu> jshriver: pingus is cool, although somewhat incomplete (only 10-15 levels)
[04:12] <Kyral> Nethack :D
[04:12] <patrick_> ie "8192"
[04:12] <jshriver> cwillu, thanks will check that out too
[04:12] <KevinIN72> anyone know why it cant find phpmyadmin??
[04:12] <cwillu> jshriver: quadra is a very addicting tetris clone (very high quality), but I've had trouble installing it on ubuntu :/
[04:12] <Kyral> !info phpmyadmin
[04:12] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In repository universe, is extra. Version 4:<IP_ADDRESS>-1 (dapper), package size 3516 kB, installed size 13724 kB
[04:12] <Kyral> You were saying?
[04:12] <nickrud> heh. If I can't finish nwn, nethack? Please
[04:13] <Kyral> Its in Universe
[04:13] <jshriver> anyone here installed MythTV under Ubuntu? I'd like to use this box as a DVR as well
[04:13] <cwillu> patrick_: ?
[04:13] <Kyral> frankly I find PHPMyAdmin to be a waste of time
[04:13] <cwillu> s?
[04:13] <jmurch> Hi all
[04:13] <KevinIN72> no i wish to install it
[04:13] <patrick_> cwillu, should I make it appear as VideoRam                     "8192" intead of 8192?
[04:13] <mcrandello> Wow the new Xorg driver works
[04:13] <cwillu> oh, "'s :)
[04:13] <dooglus> nickrud: you've finished nethack?
[04:13] <cwillu> nope
[04:13] <Kyral> Why do you need it, commandline MySQL stuff WORKS :D
[04:13] <KevinIN72> really im following the steps online
[04:13] <nickrud> dooglus, has anyone?
[04:13] <cwillu> patrick_: this is straight from my xorg.conf to youse :p
[04:13] <dooglus> nickrud: I have several times :)
[04:13] <dooglus> nickrud: but not recently
[04:13] <mcrandello> 1131 frames in 5.0 seconds = 226.200 FPS, now to see if this updated package freezes my USB
[04:14] <Kyral> Read and be happy :D
[04:14] <patrick_> k
[04:14] <nickrud> dooglus, heh. I thought it was impossible, I'll try not to get addicted again
[04:14] <Hexidigital_> ubotu still down?
[04:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about still down?
[04:14] <Kyral> Book is INVALUABLE :D
[04:14] <cwillu> mcrandello: gotta love it
[04:14] <jmurch> can anyone help a new user with the desktop, specifically when I minimize an app it disappears by the clock. How do I get it back?????
[04:14] <Hexidigital_> guess so
[04:14] <patrick_> rebootin gnow
[04:14] <patrick_> rebooting
[04:14] <cwillu> mcrandello: I'm still amazed when I see one of my kernels actually work :)
[04:14] <dooglus> nickrud: playing as a priest helps a lot - you can immediately tell which items are blessed and cursed
[04:14] <Kyral> Screw that
[04:14] <KevinIN72> say im an sertifyed in sql lol
[04:14] <Kyral> Wizard FTW!
[04:14] <mcrandello> cwillu: I can get the kernels to work but it's always a craps shoot of what did I forget to include this time :)
[04:15] <Kyral> KevinIN72: ?
[04:15] <KevinIN72> oop i put "say"
[04:15] <MTecknology> ic56, are you still there?
[04:15] <cwillu> I fear that I didn't tell patrick_ how to actually _restore_ the thing if it didn't work :
[04:15] <KevinIN72> Kyral: forget it im tired
[04:15] <cwillu> mcrandello: I'm fond of the ck patched stock kernel myself :)
[04:15] <Kyral> Even if you DON'T know SQL, it has an excellent Intro chapter
[04:15] <pibe86> hello i am installing an ati video card
[04:15] <nickrud> Kyral, what book?
[04:15] <Kyral> ORielly Books FTW
[04:15] <pibe86> and i put this comand
[04:15] <nickrud> Kyral, ah, cross reading, nm
[04:15] <Kyral> nickrud: O'Reilly's "MySQL In A Nutshell"
[04:15] <mcrandello> If this works I'm never upgrading again
[04:15] <jmurch> where do minimized app go???????????????????????????
[04:16] <mcrandello> (until I get some new hardware)
[04:16] <pibe86> sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[04:16] <Kyral> jmurch: what app was it?
[04:16] <cwillu> mcrandello: also, there's a config thingie you can include which puts a copy of your live config into proc;  great for not forgetting those essential drivers :)
[04:16] <Rug> In breezy there was an addon/app/util that you could add to the top panel that lets you run a command/app by typing in it's name. (Similar to Run Command:   )  I can't find it in Dapper.
[04:16] <Hexidigital_> Kyral:: ftw = ?
[04:16] <jmurch> any app from the desktop
[04:16] <rigonatti> hi alll
[04:16] <Kyral> Hexidigital_: For The Win
[04:16] <pibe86> after that chmod +x ati-driver-installer-<version>.run
[04:16] <Hexidigital_> Kyral:: ah :)
[04:16] <MTecknology> How can I make my Ubuntu partition that is sitting in the middle of my drive Fill the whole thing?
[04:16] <Kyral> jmurch: look for one of its Icons
[04:16] <pibe86> but i dont know whats the version
[04:16] <Kyral> there might be a "windowlist"
[04:16] <pibe86> how can i know the version??
[04:16] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell pibe86 about version
[04:16] <jmurch> do some work and some dont kyral?
[04:17] <rigonatti> i ahve unbuntu ..then i tryed to instal kde with sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop .... but now seems that my gnome desktop its mixed with some kde specs
[04:17] <Hexidigital_> !version
[04:17] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[04:17] <tamago> hi, sorry to be rude, and I know I'm an idiot, but I installed the 686 HT kernel on my Pentium four, and for some reason Dapper won't load xwindows, citing an "internal error". Can anyone shed any light? Even when I select a standard 386 kernel now X refuses to boot.
[04:17] <pibe86> yes, version
[04:17] <Kyral> jmurch: the Window List is a alternate version of the Taskbar
[04:17] <cwillu> tamago: standard as in ubuntu's standard?
[04:17] <Hexidigital_> pibe86:: there ya go... ubotu is still broken, i guess
[04:17] <Kyral> jmurch: instead of buttons on the panel, its a list
[04:17] <jmurch> OK thanks. where is the list?
[04:18] <pibe86> what about broken?
[04:18] <BSG75> hiya, how do I make gDesklet run everytime I logon?
[04:18] <tamago> cwillu: yeah, or the updated -24 kernel I think it is?
[04:18] <thomas_> Just a question... I'm trying to build banshee cvs... and i'm getting that error when checking for forbidden m4 macros. I just forget what package I need to install to fix this, if anybody remembers please let me know
[04:18] <Hexidigital_> pibe86:: whats broken?
[04:18] <jrib> BSG75: add it to system > preferences > session > startup
[04:18] <Kyral> jmurch: if you said they disappear near the clock I'd guess thats where it is
[04:18] <jmurch> OK thanks Kyral
[04:18] <cwillu> tamago: and the new one was also the ubuntu 686 one from the repository?
[04:18] <KevinIN72> Kyral: so sudo aptitude install phpadmin is not working can you help
[04:19] <Kyral> KevinIN72: do you have Universe enabled?
[04:19] <BSG75> thank jrib
[04:19] <rigonatti> how do i complete remove kde now ? ???
[04:19] <KevinIN72> Kyral: ??
[04:19] <BSG75> btw, I LOVE this version of ubuntu
[04:19] <Kyral> !universe
[04:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[04:19] <tamago> xwillu: it was, through the command line with apt-get install rather than symantic, but that shouldn't be a problem
[04:19] <steve> I need to a Java RunTime Env (JRE) anyone? I installed java-common already
[04:19] <AngryElf> anyone here use amarok? -- for whatever reason shuffle doesn't do anything, any ideas?
[04:19] <nickrud> rigonatti, ah that is easy. sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[04:19] <cwillu> tamago: yep
[04:19] <Kyral> KevinIN72: read those links
[04:19] <Hexidigital_> pibe86:: ubotu is our bot... helpful when recurring questions are asked... Seveas was reprogramming him earlier today, i guess hes still donw
[04:19] <Kyral> Java is for pansies :P
[04:19] <cwillu> tamago: dapper?  which exact kernel version?  do the failsafe modes work?
[04:20] <steve> OOo needs it to run macros
[04:20] <cwillu> !anything
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[04:20] <KevinIN72> Kyral: im goin to have to say yeah
[04:20] <mcrandello> !gender
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about gender
[04:20] <hangfire> that is so crazy that GNU Java is default over Sun's Java
[04:20] <mcrandello> official: Ubotu is an it
[04:20] <nickrud> !help
[04:20] <tamago> cwillu, the failsafes work, and I can boot to the shell. But X wont load, I'm using a dapper disk as a Live right now.
[04:20] <Hexidigital_> !test
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[04:20] <rigonatti> nickrud to remove KDE remove libqt3 ?
[04:20] <Kyral> hmm
[04:20] <dooglus> hangfire: GNU Java is free, that's why
[04:20] <Hexidigital_> nickrud:: hes broken
[04:20] <tamago> cwillu: it was the latest dapper kernel release, I'll find out which exactly.
[04:20] <nickrud> this new ubotu is not nearly abusive enough
[04:21] <hangfire> so is Sun's Java
[04:21] <Kyral> ubotu gender is I am genderless
[04:21] <cwillu> tamago: off chance, but have you tried an dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver?
[04:21] <nickrud> rigonatti, libqt3-mt
[04:21] <rigonatti> what is it ?
[04:21] <Kyral> damnit didn't work :(
[04:21] <dooglus> hangfire: Sun's Java isn't free.
[04:21] <DBO> cwillu, you mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:21] <cwillu> indeed I do
[04:21] <Kyral> as in Freedom!
[04:21] <dooglus> hangfire: it's about as free as IE7
[04:21] <hangfire> dooglus, why have I downloaded it off Sun's site then for free?
[04:21] <cwillu> always get that backwards (second guessing myself everytime)
[04:21] <nickrud> rigonatti, it is the fundamental library for kde. If you truly want to remove nearly all of gnome, the equiv would be libglib2.0-0
[04:21] <SeanTater> Kyral: ubotu's learning is locked, only specific people can teach him
[04:21] <patrick_> cwillu, it didnt work.
[04:21] <pibe86> i download the driver from ati whit this command sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[04:21] <steve> Ooo needs JRE Iwhich package do I install? not free?
[04:22] <Kyral> hangfire: Its free as in beer, not free as in Freedom
[04:22] <tamago> cwillu: nope, I haven't. I'm guessing I'm having to reconfigure the xserver to take the new kernel?
[04:22] <Kyral> SeanTater: since yesterday?
[04:22] <dooglus> hangfire: the first hit is free.
[04:22] <hangfire> kyral, oh I see
[04:22] <SeanTater> Kyral: AFAIK
[04:22] <Kyral> hangfire: www.gnu.org for more
[04:22] <cwillu> tamago: I didn't think so, but if x won't start, it would seem to be a first guess
[04:22] <nickrud> rigonatti, but I do not recommend removing libglib, the ubuntu tools use that extensively
[04:22] <cwillu> patrick_:  :(
[04:22] <hangfire> thx Kyral
[04:22] <Intangir> im updating to dapper!
[04:22] <Hexidigital_> ubotu !gender is i am genderless
[04:22] <jigs> hi all
[04:22] <cwillu> patrick_: did it bomb out, or is still just slow?
[04:22] <Intangir> like.. full
[04:22] <Intangir> i have beta
[04:23] <Hexidigital_> hmm... i thought an ! was needed
[04:23] <cwillu> ooo, tamago:  you're running dapper right?
[04:23] <tamago> cwillu: yup
[04:23] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: His learning is locked, you're going to have to bet Seveas
[04:23] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: *beg
[04:23] <Hexidigital_> SeanTater:: i wouldnt doubt it... i know he was reprogramming our faithful bot earlier today
[04:24] <jigs> guys... i've got the dapper (amd64) install disc but I my monitor (and tely.. tried both) don't support the install (text/oem) mode as soon as it goes to the blueish screen. Any ideas?
[04:24] <nickrud> Seveas is dictatorial, in the greek sense
[04:24] <tamago> cwillu: is there any way to run an IRC chat from the command line? I have networking on the borked Dapper install...
[04:24] <steve> I need to a Java RunTime Env (JRE) anyone? I installed java-common already
[04:24] <pibe86> i download the driver from ati whit this command sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[04:24] <mcrandello> ubotu !gender is sorry I'm taken
[04:24] <Kyral> !java
[04:24] <Hexidigital_> nickrud:: lol
[04:24] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:24] <cwillu> tamago: almost certainly.  Now, do _I_ know how from the command line is a different question now isn't it?  :)
[04:24] <steve> ok thnks dude
[04:24] <Kyral> tamago: Irssi :D
[04:25] <hangfire> tamago, you can run IRC from the live disc
[04:25] <cwillu> patrick_: slow or bombed?
[04:25] <pibe86> i download the driver from ati whit this command sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper. i need how to know the version of this driver tu put this command chmod +x ati-driver-installer-<version>.run
[04:25] <tamago> hangfire: that's what I'm doing right now :)
[04:25] <jigs> pibe.. problem being is I can't install it at all.. can't select hdd etc...   However there's data I'd rather not lose. Of course I could just re-partition and leave that stuff copied there and safe.
[04:26] <nickrud> Hexidigital_, don't tell me you have classical education
[04:26] <Kyral> pibe86: where did you download it to
[04:26] <tamago> But I'd rather learn something than give in to a fresh install.
[04:26] <Hexidigital_> !usetab is use your tab key to insert a user's full name, if you only type the first few characters
[04:26] <Kyral> pibe86: use common sense....
[04:26] <SeanTater> #debian-bots
[04:26] <Hexidigital_> nickrud:: no, i am educated in general :)
[04:27] <nickrud> qed
[04:27] <SeanTater> oops -- sry -- did not mean to say it in here
[04:27] <Hexidigital_> SeanTater:: you need a /j before that
[04:27] <cwillu> so if you were a guy with a new smb problem, who would you ask about it?
[04:27] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: so I noticed
[04:27] <tamago> what's an easy .deb package installer to use from the command line?\
[04:27] <pibe86> i dont know i just put this command sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[04:27] <cwillu> smb was working, but it broke
[04:27] <Hexidigital_> SeanTater:: :)
[04:28] <tamago> I'm going to try this irssi thing.
[04:28] <cwillu> tamago: look at the dpkg line of commands
[04:28] <cwillu> oops
[04:28] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: but ubotu is not in there anyway
[04:28] <Kyral> pibe86: that just installs the stuff the installer needs to run
[04:28] <AngryElf> installing kubuntu was the worst thing I ever did
[04:28] <Hexidigital_> nickrud:: why does that supprise you that i laughed? are most others clueless to those references?
[04:28] <cwillu> tamago: if you're installing from the repository, apt-get install <package> is what you're looking for
[04:28] <Kyral> pibe86: you still need to go and download the driver
[04:28] <jigs> pibe.. anyway to do that under windows rather than from running off the live CD? (i'm uber newb btw so have some patience 8)
[04:28] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: or in #supybot-bots
[04:28] <patrick__> cwillu, still slow.
[04:28] <jrib> tamago: irssi is in the repositories, you can use synaptic, apt-get, aptitude
[04:28] <pibe86> Kyral, yes
[04:29] <Kyral> yes what?
[04:29] <cwillu> bah;  patrick_ / patrick__
[04:29] <tamago> Cheers.
[04:29] <patrick__> lol
[04:29] <cwillu> okay, let me say all that again :)
[04:29] <tamago> One question, what's the root password on the LiveCD
[04:29] <tamago> ?
[04:29] <mcrandello> there is none
[04:29] <jrib> ubotu: tell tamago about root
[04:29] <nickrud> Hexidigital_, yes. Although, I'm kinda suprised fewer get by here than most places
[04:29] <mcrandello> you have to use sudo + your password
[04:30] <cwillu> patrick__:  can you pastebin me the grep command output again, as well as your xorg.conf file?
[04:30] <SeanTater> tamago: just use sudo, no passwd
[04:30] <tamago> k
[04:30] <mcrandello> or kdesu or gksudo for gnome windowed apps
[04:30] <Hexidigital_> nickrud:: youd be surprised at what us 25 year olds can accomplish :-)
[04:30] <jigs> or, as another option.. is there a place where i can get screenies of the new install screen by screen so I can do a 'blind' install.. i.e type in the numbers let it install (as I know the monitor will pick up on actual full loadup)
[04:30] <lab2std> Hi
[04:30] <SeanTater> tamago: kdesu for kde apps and gksudo for gnome apps too
[04:30] <patrick__> cwillu, *sighs* I suppose so...
[04:30] <SeanTater> mcrandello: in a busy channel, prefixing the name can be helpful
[04:31] <lab2std> Everyone say with me together
[04:31] <nickrud> Hexidigital_, now that's 25 :)
[04:31] <Hexidigital_> gnite all
[04:31] <lab2std> Say with me
[04:31] <Hexidigital_> hehe, nickrud
[04:31] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: g-nite
[04:31] <lab2std> Who........................say with me
[04:32] <mcrandello> SeanTater: true, I'll stop bothering the channel for a while, try to crash the system/see if this updated fglrx works any better
[04:32] <tamago> seantater: okay
[04:32] <cwillu> mount /mnt/foo gives me an error (even thought the mount point is 'user'd);  sudo /mnt/foo gives me a mount with a whole bunch of individual letters with '?' for all their properties (ls -l)
[04:32] <tamago> thanks all for the help, may see you in a second
[04:32] <SeanTater> mcrandello: okay
[04:32] <SeanTater> tamago: okay
[04:33] <Flippy> goodnight all, thanks for all the help today. Cya tomorrow after work. :)
[04:33] <SeanTater> Gosh, every time I say something to someone, they leave
[04:33] <nickrud> jigs, I just happened to see the  'blind' install, what are you talking about? there's gotta be a better option
[04:33] <blind> kdj
[04:34] <Zambezi> GFTP is too slow. Is there an option which is quicker? (Transfer via SSH).
[04:34] <Sivik> nickrud, what does it mean when nwn says could not load the Module; could not unpack the module?
[04:34] <nickrud> Sivik, not a clue
[04:34] <chris_> i need gstreamer for ubuntu dapper :/
[04:34] <LadyNikon> dude.
[04:34] <Sivik> darnit
[04:35] <nickrud> Sivik, I'll mail you if you like.
[04:35] <Sivik> nickrud, what file should the modules be in?  the nwm or the modules file?
[04:35] <Zambezi> nickrud, http://pastebin.com
[04:35] <nickrud> Sivik, you could even see where I quit :)
[04:35] <Sivik> nickrud, don't worry about it
[04:35] <chris_> amarok wont have any sound .... says its playing but need gstreamer!!
[04:35] <Sivik> do the module files need to be in the nwm or the modules folder?
[04:35] <nickrud> Zambezi, 4 gigabytes?
[04:35] <patrick__> cwillu, grep command http://wwww.pastebin.com/722478
[04:35] <chris_> im pretty sure if i have gstreamer for amarok everything should be ok
[04:36] <SeanTater> Zambezi: there is sshfs available, along with sftp..
[04:36] <jigs> well... i'm not great on commands in linux yet (trying to install it first to learn), anyho, the live CD boots fine - but it will not allow me to dual boot, so i have the alt CD. The alt CD i assumed was dead as after clicking text mode for install it unpacks then display goes.. rechecked disc (it's fine) and plugged in TV (handles diffent freq) and it's showing the blue install screen does come up.. just completly fubured rez/freq
[04:36] <Zambezi> SeanTater, Which do you prefer?
[04:36] <chris_> anyone have amarok working?
[04:36] <plagerism> how can I increase the size of a tty terminal?  I need it to fill my lcd(secondary screen) so I can calibrate my touchscreen
[04:36] <SeanTater> Zambezi: sshfs mounts ssh areas like mounted areas, sftp is like the original command line ftp
[04:36] <cwillu> patrick__: minus a w
[04:36] <gaz00> !seen lifeless
[04:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about seen lifeless
[04:37] <patrick__> what?
[04:37] <SeanTater> Zambezi: both, they are for totally different application areas
[04:37] <gaz00> !lifeless
[04:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about lifeless
[04:37] <siriusnova> can anyone help me? Im running Xorg-air :0
[04:37] <patrick__> cwillu, what?
[04:37] <siriusnova> how do i start an xterm from a console on that server
[04:37] <Sivik> nickrud, it looks like it has to do with permissions
[04:37] <jigs> so i can't select the options to intall up... So I was wondering if i could find out the how many button presses of each to press to get it to intall on dual boot.. If i'm careful i should get it to at least install, then when it actually boots it should use a stable img for my monitor
[04:37] <chris_> somebody? theres over 700 ppl here who has amarok working?
[04:37] <siriusnova> xterm :0 doesn't do it and i forgot the method
[04:37] <cwillu> patrick, I get nothing at that address
[04:37] <patrick__> oic
[04:37] <nickrud> jigs, the live cd can install as a dual boot
[04:37] <cwillu> nor anything at that number without the extra 'w' :/
[04:37] <SeanTater> gaz00: ubotu is being reprogrammed, equavalent to a lobotomy by human standards, don;t except much from him for a while
[04:38] <nickrud> It did for me, at least the betas did
[04:38] <Zambezi> SeanTater, I can only transfer in 1350 KB/s and that's too slow. I prefer a grafic interface now in the beginning, but for big transfers, 1350 KB/s is too slow.
[04:38] <jigs> i've tried.. many times with the live CD... it doesn't dual boot, the boot loader doesn't write into the boot sector
[04:38] <SeanTater> Zambezi: ssh will not be any faster than ftp
[04:38] <Sivik> what does 500|500 mean for permissions?
[04:38] <siriusnova> hello
[04:38] <gaz00> ahhhh...   well, it was a random guess anyways --  i don't know if he ever had that functionality.
[04:38] <patrick__> cwillu, you sure?   http://wwww.pastebin.com/722478
[04:38] <siriusnova> can someone help me, i started a local Xserver via Xorg-air :0
[04:38] <SeanTater> Zambezi: it will be slower because it encrypts the data
[04:38] <gaz00> SeanTater: thanks anyways!
[04:38] <siriusnova> how do i start an xterm in that server?
[04:38] <siriusnova> from a console
[04:38] <siriusnova> xterm :0 doesn't do it :(
[04:39] <nickrud> jigs, go ahead with the install, when it asks if you want a boot floppy say yes, and make one.
[04:39] <KevinIN72> anyone know what this is "MySQL extension not loaded in PHP"
[04:39] <jigs> trust me.. i got up a linux guru (i know.. we all have them) and we tried for 4 hours... even came on here and after a while was told.. get alt. you can't do with live
[04:39] <Sivik> yes
[04:39] <Sivik> thank god
[04:39] <siriusnova> anyone?
[04:39] <patrick__> cwillu, heres the xorg.conf       http://wwww.pastebin.com/722479
[04:39] <neotard> KevinIN72:  when do you get it?  in a php script?
[04:39] <nickrud> jigs, ok then, I will trust you. My experience is older
[04:39] <Sivik> nickrud, the issue is with permissions
[04:39] <SeanTater> Zambezi: all KDE apps support transparently using sftp, but having never extensively used Gnome, you will need to see for your self..
[04:39] <KevinIN72> neotard: i was trying to go to a php file on the web
[04:39] <Zambezi> SeanTater, When I have too install a FTP-server then. I heard good things about vsftpd. I really would like to have Implicit SSL, but I never get confirmed if vsftpd contains that.
[04:39] <jigs> i was very much hoping to live install it.. would of saved some hair from being pulled out..
[04:40] <neotard> KevinIN72:  it's a configuration issue on the server side.
[04:40] <nickrud> Sivik, got it grokked then?
[04:40] <Sivik> grokked?
[04:40] <neotard> KevinIN72:  nothing to worry about on your end if you're just browsing web pages :)
[04:40] <nickrud> !dict grok
[04:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about dict grok
[04:40] <Sivik> nickrud: all i had to do is run via sudo ./nwn
[04:40] <SeanTater> Zambezi: well -- I know that SSH is extremely secure, so if that makes a difference, ssh wins
[04:40] <nickrud> argh, no dictionary!?
[04:40] <KevinIN72> neotard: no cuz it was on my server
[04:40] <Zambezi> SeanTater, I use serverinstall and Xubuntu. So I can't have any X-application on the serverinstallation.
[04:40] <Sivik> nickrud, now i have to figure out how to change all the permissions to my user
[04:40] <SeanTater> Zambezi: rsync also can use ssh, a big plus for me
[04:41] <aeon17x> nickrud: it would spam the channel a bit, which isn't a good idea
[04:41] <Zambezi> SeanTater, I like security. That's a priority for me. I set sshd: ALL in hosts.deny. ;-)
[04:41] <aeon17x> nickrud: you can use 'dict <keyword>' in firefox
[04:41] <neotard> KevinIN72:  Ah, well it sounds like you're trying to do something with MySQL then, and you haven't loaded the appropriate module to do that.  Check your php.ini file, there's a list of loadable modules.. make sure the mysql module is uncommented.
[04:41] <nickrud> Sivik, from the top directory, chmod -R u+r *  (will make them all readable) u+rw readable & writeable
[04:41] <patrick__> cwillu, heres the xorg.conf       http://wwww.pastebin.com/722479
[04:41] <SeanTater> Zambezi: okay, I think there are a few kde apps available which don;t require the whole boatload of apps to do such a thing
[04:41] <neotard> did someone say SSH is really secure?  O.o
[04:41] <nickrud> aeon17x, true, but I was hoping. I have a dict server locally
[04:42] <SeanTater> Zambezi: kommander, maybe, I;m not sure that's ity
[04:42] <jigs> nickrud: any other ideas... all i can think of is blind install (99% chance to fry my xp install) or getting another gpu  (btw.. i got x850xtpe) to do install with
[04:42] <Sivik> nickrud: do i need to make them readable or both?
[04:42] <SurfnKid> neotard: i now know it is. but its not?
[04:42] <SeanTater> Zambezi: oops -- nope, not kommander
[04:42] <Sivik> nickrud: i guess they need to be both for all users, all i want to do is to change who owns them
[04:42] <nickrud> Sivik, rw is just fine, under your home dir especially if you're the only user of the machine
[04:42] <Zambezi> SeanTater, But when I transfered files between Windows and Linux, the clients speed where between 1500-3500 KB/s so there got to be a quckier client.
[04:42] <Sivik> ok
[04:42] <neotard> SurfnKid:  it's like any other service.. configured incorrectly and used wrong it's no more secure than telnet :)
[04:42] <SeanTater> Zambezi: try krusader
[04:42] <Sivik> nickrud, i'm the only one here
[04:43] <SurfnKid> oh right
[04:43] <nickrud> home dir, rw then
[04:43] <eFoX> :'(
[04:43] <eFoX> damm this wireless
[04:43] <SeanTater> Zambezi: krisader has a gftp-ish feel anyway
[04:43] <cwillu> patrick__:  try commenting out the 4 line SubSection "Display" block with the Depth 24 line in it (last entry in the Section "Screen" block)
[04:43] <Zambezi> SeanTater, Does krusader works on Xubuntu?
[04:43] <Sivik> neotard, SSH is called a secure shell
[04:44] <Sivik> neotard, its secure, not sure to what point
[04:44] <SeanTater> Zambezi: it will install several kde libs to work, but it;s better than installing konqueror
[04:44] <nickrud> aeon17x, just tell people to open a private window with ubotu, it should be the guru
[04:44] <patrick__> cwillu, what???
[04:44] <Zambezi> neotard, Since you know - how should I make my SSH more secure?
[04:44] <KevinIN72> can anyone just give me the basics on how to setup a webserver
[04:45] <sivanicon> KevinIN72 sudo apt-get install apache2
[04:45] <Zambezi> SeanTater, I prefer too have a clean computer.
[04:45] <nickrud> KevinIN72, isee sivanicon
[04:45] <neotard> KevinIN72:  "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[04:45] <gavagai> KevinIN72, install apache2 and stick your site in /var/www/
[04:45] <neotard> KevinIN72:  then read the apache docs :)
[04:45] <patrick__> cwillu, ok nevermind
[04:45] <SeanTater> Zambezi: to answer another person;s question, you could use private key auth instead of just password, and make sure aes256 encryption is default
[04:45] <KevinIN72> what if i want to run a php site
[04:45] <j-linux> I'm downloading some modes to emacs (trying to learn) -- how do I know where synaptic is putting these files?  I'm trying to find 'xxml' but I'm not sure if it came with ubuntu.
[04:45] <cwillu> patrick__: in xorg.conf (sorry, deleted that bit by accident)
[04:45] <lightstar> Zambezi, make sure u disable root login, limit the max auth retires, and if possible only allow a specifics users are allowed to login
[04:45] <neotard> KevinIN72:  install the php package
[04:45] <patrick__> cwillu, so restart after changing?
[04:46] <sivanicon> KevinIN72 and might as well get the mysql package also
[04:46] <nickrud> j-linux, a general answer: dpkg -L <packagename> will list all the files in the package
[04:46] <eclypse> and I return
[04:46] <j-linux> nickrud: thanks...
[04:46] <eclypse> on different computer.
[04:46] <nickrud> emacs ~= evil
[04:46] <cwillu> eclypse: nooooOOOOoooo!!
[04:46] <Sivik> nickrud: i'm in, it works
[04:47] <eclypse> cwillu, lol
[04:47] <KevinIN72> well the thing is i want to setup a site with a forum, is there any easy way to do that
[04:47] <neotard> nickrud:  jedit ftw :)
[04:47] <tamago> hmmm. interesting, fruitless but interesting
[04:47] <eclypse> cwillu, I'm restarting my laptop now.
[04:47] <jigs> i guess temp gpu the way to go (darn)... have a nice day y'all
[04:47] <nickrud> Sivik, great, now, get past chapter 2 before fallling asleep :)
[04:47] <tamago> aparrantly xserver-xorg doesn't exist.
[04:47] <eclypse> wtf
[04:47] <eclypse> that doesn't seem logical, at all
[04:47] <eclypse> ( I was talking to tamago, btw
[04:47] <Zambezi> lightstar, No root actived, sshd: ALL in hosts.deny just one (internal) IP-number in hosts.allow, change port in sshd_config. That's done, but limit the max auth retires is what, and where can I find it? And where can I specife users allowed to login?
[04:47] <DrKevorkian> Can anyone help me? I can't get firefox to produce audio ever.
[04:48] <neotard> tamago:  sure it does
[04:48] <farous> is the netselect tool part of ubuntu too?
[04:48] <SeanTater> Zambezi: try looking in the man page for sshd_config
[04:48] <eclypse> cwillu, I got a blue screen x server errror!
[04:48] <Sivik> nickrud: lol
[04:48] <eFoX> SurfnKid: you were able to help me before. I'm hoping you can now as well. My wireless no longer works. It was good yesterday, but today it is not. iwconfig shoes my wireless interface there, but iwlist returns "no scan results"
[04:48] <lightstar> Zambezi, u need to change it in sshd_config and add, MaxAuthTries 3, AllowUsers <user>
[04:48] <tamago> eclypse: it was very strange, my conf. wouldn't let me start irssi because it couldn't create a .temp directory..
[04:48] <sivanicon> When I type 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab' it dont open it.  What is the deal?
[04:48] <Sivik> nickrud, all i have to do is run it as a sudo
[04:49] <SurfnKid> mmmm
[04:49] <Zambezi> lightstar, And my password is change an hour ago to a strange one with lower case, "higher"-case, numbers och %#-things.
[04:49] <tamago> does anyone know how to reset the boot sequence easily, possibly without having to reinstall the whole of Dapper?
[04:49] <SurfnKid> eFoX: what was your adapter
[04:49] <cwillu> sivanicon: you're not putting a '&' after it are you?
[04:49] <lightstar> Zambezi, u changed your passwd?
[04:49] <nickrud> Sivik, then set up proper perms :)
[04:49] <sivanicon>  cwillu no, it just goes to another line to enter a command
[04:49] <Zambezi> lightstar, Yes, an hour ago.
[04:50] <eFoX> SurfnKid: i am using ndiswrapper for the bcm43xx chipset and yesterday i HAD wlan0 AND now that is gone and in its place i have eth1
[04:50] <cwillu> sivanicon: sure you don't have one already open?
[04:50] <SurfnKid> oh right, Dapper?
[04:50] <eFoX> SurfnKid: yes
[04:50] <sivanicon> cwillu id assume i could have as many as i want open but no i dont have any open
[04:50] <cwillu> sivanicon: with out the '&', it should stay at that prompt until you close gedit, unless you already have gedit open
[04:50] <cwillu> sivanicon: if you already have one open, the file should open in a new tab
[04:50] <alexcamilo> is 3.1 gigs enough for a 5.10 install on ppc? the installer says i might have run out of space in the /var filesystem.
[04:50] <SurfnKid> let me check somethin
[04:51] <eclypse> cwillu, I got a blue screen x server errror!
[04:51] <lightstar> Zambezi, thats good. you also might choose to your public/private key..it makes it more secure
[04:51] <lightstar> Zambezi, s/your/use
[04:51] <sivanicon> cwillu even when i do 'sudo nano /etc/fstab' it doesnt work
[04:51] <Zambezi> lightstar, How can I do that?
[04:52] <DrKevorkian> someone else must have had this problem at one point. I can't get audio playing during flash media viewed through firefox
[04:52] <[Ex0r] > anyone know an ssh server for ubuntu ?
[04:52] <eclypse> cwillu, I got a blue screen x server errror!
[04:52] <gavagai> Zambezi, google 'ssh keygen'
[04:52] <gavagai> [Ex0r] , openssh-server
[04:52] <bimberi> [Ex0r] : openssh-server
[04:52] <eclypse> this shit is frustrating the hell out of me
[04:52] <SeanTater> alexcamilo: 3.1 might be pushing it
[04:52] <[Ex0r] > thank you :)
[04:52] <nickrud> Sivik, sudo chmod -R a+rw , that should clear up the sudo thing, or chown -R you:you *
[04:52] <Sivik> nickrud, i will
[04:52] <bimberi> [Ex0r] : 'sudo aptitude install ssh' (will install it)
[04:52] <Sivik> nickrud, very well, i'm playing for now
[04:53] <SurfnKid> eFoX: On my installation, Breezy.. I had to type 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' after all the instructions n reboot were done. That was the only time i did it, it never disappeared again
[04:53] <farous> eclypse: make it easy for your self dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg follow the menu and if you do nto know just pickup the default
[04:53] <Sivik> bimberi: its actually openssh not just ssh
[04:53] <nickrud> Sivik, enjoy
[04:53] <SeanTater> alexcamilo: but you might want a slimmer vesrion of ubuntu for such a small HD
[04:53] <SurfnKid> eFoX: you might have to type it again see what it does
[04:53] <cwillu> eclypse: after you installed xgl, how confident are you that you completely uninstalled it?
[04:53] <Sivik> [Ex0r] , its sudo apt-get install openssh
[04:53] <lightstar> Zambezi, ssh-keygen -t dsa
[04:53] <SeanTater> alexcamilo: xubuntu might do the trick
[04:53] <cwillu> eclypse: i.e., relinking things to their old places if you ln'd them to xgl files, etc
[04:53] <lightstar> Zambezi, copy the id_dsa.pub to the server and rename it to sth like authorized_keys (depending on what is the config on the server)
[04:53] <Sivik> nickrud, thanks for all your help
[04:53] <eclypse> farous, do yuo think of me as a moron? Iv'e done that, over and over
[04:53] <nerdzyboy> how do I configure network?
[04:54] <eclypse> cwillu, I don't think I reinstalled it all the way
[04:54] <bimberi> Sivik: hm, i only see a package called ssh
[04:54] <nickrud> Sivik, handholding is my speciality
[04:54] <Zambezi> lightstar, Can we take this in pm?
[04:54] <alexcamilo> ah thanx
[04:54] <eclypse> cwillu, err, uninstall
[04:54] <GoClick> I have a job that's going to take a couple of hours, maybe a day to run. I only realisticaly have access to the server via SSH so I can't just start it and then ctrl+z and logout cause it gets killed. I have to interact with the console before the really long part happens, enter commands and whatnot and What can I do so it keeps running after I logout? I can kill the pid in the morning when I get back to work.
[04:54] <nerdzyboy> I installed a new network card but I can't get online...
[04:54] <babywalks> i am now using "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - the Dapper Drake - released in June 2006" but the hibernate function does not work.
[04:54] <bimberi> nerdzyboy: System -> Adiminstration -> Networking
[04:54] <gavagai> GoClick, screen
[04:54] <nerdzyboy> k
[04:55] <lightstar> Zambezi, sure
[04:55] <farous> eclypse: lol ok just retrace your steps then. another way purge your xorg files and reistall the xserver-xorg
[04:55] <eclypse> farous, I can't remember shit lol
[04:55] <cwillu> lol
[04:55] <eclypse> farous, ADD tends too do that
[04:55] <gavagai> GoClick, start screen, start the job, disconnect.  then in the morning:  screen -dr
[04:55] <babywalks> it complains about the HAL, but the hal package is the newest in the repository, any idea/
[04:55] <marc> Is running a firewall necessary for a home user behind a linksys router?
[04:55] <eclypse> for linux, not necessarally, marsc
[04:55] <eclypse> marc*
[04:55] <eclypse> you are as secure as your root password
[04:55] <eclypse> remember that
[04:55] <SurfnKid> eFoX: try that see how it goes
[04:55] <cwillu> eclypse: I'm not entirely sure this will work, or leave you in a workable state (mind you, x isn't working at all right now, right?)
[04:56] <eclypse> cwillu, right
[04:56] <bimberi> marc: same setup here, i don't run one
[04:56] <marc> eclypse, thanks
[04:56] <eclypse> cwillu, but I think editing the xorg.conf and removing the comments will remake it to normal
[04:56] <cwillu> eclypse: apt-get remove xserver-xorg
[04:56] <slugicide> Can someone point me to a HowTo for wireless networking windows and ubuntu?
[04:56] <eclypse> marc, no problem, if you have a password like t49350ure90gjedj9035jt0934jt903j4t90j4309tj3409tj your pretty much unhackable ;)
[04:56] <SurfnKid> !wifi
[04:56] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[04:56] <cwillu> eclypse: and then apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:56] <tamago> what is the command to unmount a volume?
[04:56] <eclypse> cwillu, will this take a long time? i'm on dialup mind yo
[04:56] <eclypse> you*
[04:56] <cwillu> eclypse: gah
[04:57] <bimberi> tamago: sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint
[04:57] <eclypse> cwillu, lol
[04:57] <sivanicon> cwillu It appears everytime I use sudo to run a command it doesnt work
[04:57] <tamago> cheers
[04:57] <cwillu> sivanicon: try sudo -s, and then run the commands without sudo
[04:57] <tamago> why it can't be "unmount" I'll never know
[04:57] <cwillu> eclypse: I _think_ it'll use the cached versions
[04:57] <marc> eclypse, I was just asking because I ran sheild up off grc.com and it said all failed, but all ports were closed, but not stealth
[04:57] <cwillu> i.e., we're not clearing the apt cache, nor are we moving to a new version
[04:57] <eclypse> marc, thats because they probably oculdn't get through your root pass
[04:57] <bimberi> tamago: just one of the wonderful vagiaries of Unix :)
[04:57] <farous> sivanicon: make sure you have admin rights
[04:57] <gavagai> marc, stealth is BS
[04:58] <cwillu> it should be smart about it, rather than making me cry :)
[04:58] <eclypse> marc, that test was probably intended ofr windows, anyways
[04:58] <michael____> Can someone please tell me how to create a root user in unbuntu
[04:58] <marc> thanks
[04:58] <eclypse> marc, your root passowrd is the key to security
[04:58] <michael____> i tried gdmsetup says im noot root for some reason
[04:58] <GoClick> thank you gavagai
[04:58] <eclypse> marc: unlike windows.
[04:58] <sivanicon> farous i have sudo to run commands from the start and always worked
[04:58] <cwillu> michael____: put 'sudo ' in front of the command
[04:58] <bimberi> michael____: 'gksudo gdmsetup' and you'll be running it as rook
[04:58] <eclypse> cwillu, I'll attempt it now... lol
[04:58] <bimberi> *root
[04:58] <cwillu> sudo whatever-you-typed-befor
[04:58] <bimberi> !gksudo
[04:58] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[04:58] <cwillu> eclypse: good luck :)
[04:59] <michael____> Thanks bro
[04:59] <eclypse> cwillu...I'm gonna need it lol
[04:59] <gavagai> GoClick, you're welcome
[04:59] <cwillu> so, anyone wanna help me troubleshoot some samba issues?
[04:59] <swim> can oggs play on ipods?
[04:59] <eclypse> I don't even know how to get a anymous FTP for windows setup
[04:59] <SeanTater> eclypse: if it took 10 cycles per hack, that passwd it would take a 2.8 GHZ processor<PHONE_NUMBER>94741755453467096728102408501824649 years to finish
[05:00] <cwillu> eclypse: that's not the easy way of transfering files anyway
[05:00] <eclypse> wow
[05:00] <eclypse> thats insane, seantater
[05:00] <eclypse> lol
[05:00] <SurfnKid> eFoX: did it work
[05:00] <eclypse> thanks for conferming my hope in linux :D
[05:00] <Sivik> nickrud, thanks again
[05:00] <neotard> SeanTater:  but you have that big number to 1 chance to get it right the first time ;)
[05:00] <tamago> how does one mount ntfs writable?
[05:00] <tamago> (I know this is dangerous)
[05:01] <SeanTater> neotard: first I think I will use that luck to win the lottery a few billion times
[05:01] <eFoX> SurfnKid: sorry, comp froze...trying it now
[05:01] <neotard> lol
[05:01] <cwillu> so patrick__ has come back yet;  suppose that means he's working now?
[05:01] <cwillu> tamago: oh boy :)
[05:01] <eFoX> SurfnKid: i did modprobe ndiswrapper as root, and then i tried iwlist scan, and same thing " no scan results"
[05:01] <SurfnKid> eFoX: thought something had happened heh
[05:02] <SurfnKid> eFoX: did you reboot?
[05:02] <cwillu> tamago: captivefs is probably the best option, but I haven't tried installing it lately (and it needs a dll or two from windows if I recall correctly)
[05:02] <bimberi> !fuse > tamago
[05:02] <eFoX> SurfnKid: no. let me reboot.
[05:02] <eFoX> brb
[05:02] <SurfnKid> eFoX: try that yep
[05:03] <swim> can oggs play on ipods?
[05:03] <cwillu> tamago: other write support options for linux are so far either unmaintained, or still fairly limited in what they support (number of files per directory, types of changes that can be made, etc)
[05:03] <bimberi> tamago: did ubotu send you a pm?  it's the first time i've used the new syntax
[05:03] <Warbo> swim: Only with RockBox firmware
[05:03] <PORDO> swim nope.
[05:03] <cwillu> swim: don't know, google search is probably a better bet to find out
[05:03] <PORDO> swim unless you use rockbox maybe.
[05:03] <nickrud> Sivik, np, thanks for the opportunity to examine your box.
[05:03] <nickrud> rflol
[05:03] <cwillu> giggle
[05:03] <tamago> bimberi: nope, didn't get a pm... but then I'm using irssi
[05:03] <swim> thx
[05:03] <cwillu> tamago: how's that working for you?  :)
[05:04] <tamago> rather delightful
[05:04] <tamago> all the standard irc commands
[05:04] <nickrud> Sivik, a joke, a joke, if you knew my network skills, you'd be laughing harder
[05:04] <Cntryboy> To extract a tar.bz2 is this the same as tar? Can anyone help me with the command please
[05:04] <tamago> but none of the sugar-coated crap
[05:04] <eclypse> cwillu, it still has the no screens found error
[05:04] <neotard> tamago:  you mean you want to IRC w/o a mouse? :p
[05:04] <nickrud> Cntryboy, tar xf <filename> , all supported formats
[05:04] <Warbo> Cntryboy: "tar -xjf file.tar.bz2"
[05:05] <bimberi> tamago
[05:05] <Cntryboy> what about -xvvf ?
[05:05] <farous> eclypse: did you remove all the xorg files. xserver-xorg is just a meta package
[05:05] <bimberi> tamago: hmm
[05:05] <neotard> "bzip2 -c -d <filename> | tar -cvf" is more fun :D
[05:05] <bimberi> !fuse
[05:05] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:05] <nickrud> Cntryboy, it slows down the extraction, but shows what's happening
[05:05] <Warbo> Cntryboy: That will give you loads of output
[05:05] <eclypse> farous, I did as cwillu suggested.
[05:05] <bimberi> tamago: that's what i was trying to send ^^^^^^
[05:05] <Cntryboy> okay so use -xjf then?
[05:05] <eclypse> farous, do you know all the XGL packages that I can remove through apt-get ?
[05:05] <sivanicon> so how do you get removed from sudoers?
[05:05] <Aven> Hey all
[05:05] <nickrud> Cntryboy, xf is sufficent
[05:06] <Warbo> Who the hell wrote these ubotu infos? FUSE gives you a guide on NTFS but nothing else?
[05:06] <farous> eclypse: i just use a short cut aptitude purge ~nxorg
[05:06] <Aven> my resolution only shows 1024x768, how would I change that?
[05:06] <eclypse> exact command?
[05:06] <farous> will remove anypackage with xorg in it. then install ubuntu desktop
[05:06] <Cntryboy> k thx
[05:06] <Aven> it doesn't give an option for 1280, how do I add it?
[05:06] <SurfnKid> Aven: Ubuntu?
[05:06] <Aven> yeah
[05:06] <nickrud> sivanicon, sudo deluser <usrname> admin
[05:06] <Aven> I read the tutorial, but didn't help
[05:06] <farous> eclypse: type man aptitude to konow how to use it
[05:06] <SurfnKid> Aven: have you configured your GPU driver
[05:06] <byron> how do you upgrade to drapper drake?
[05:07] <neotard> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  ^^
[05:07] <farous> eclypse: but you need a net connection just in case
[05:07] <byron> do I have to install all the updates that it presently has
[05:07] <Aven> SurfnKid: what's that?
[05:07] <byron> and then go to drapper
[05:07] <dooglus> byron: it depends what you're upgrading from
[05:07] <sivanicon> i never ran a command like that but yet i have been stripped of it?
[05:07] <SurfnKid> Aven: your video card might not work on an out of the box install
[05:07] <eclypse> I'de prefer not reading through a tun of stuff, since I have ADD, could you please just give me the full command? farous
[05:07] <byron> im upgrading from 5.10
[05:07] <Cntryboy> mmmm didn't work... cd@cd-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo tar -xjf gyach-enhanced_pyvoice-binary-1.0.7-i586.tar.bz2
[05:07] <Cntryboy> Password:
[05:07] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~/Desktop$
[05:07] <farous> eclypse: i did
[05:07] <SurfnKid> Aven: so you might have to do some commands to get it running correctly. let me ask you what card do you have
[05:07] <farous> sudo aptiutde purge ~nxorg
[05:08] <dooglus> Cntryboy: it worked
[05:08] <byron> do I have to install all the software updates before I upgrade?
[05:08] <dooglus> Cntryboy: it would have told you if it hadn't
[05:08] <nickrud> Cntryboy, now try sudo tar xf gyach-enhanced_pyvoice-binary-1.0.7-i586.tar.bz2
[05:08] <Cntryboy> where did it extract it to then?
[05:08] <stevejenson> anybody have luck installing xubuntu 6.06 on parallels for windows?
[05:08] <farous> eclypse: and if you bothered and read few lines you would have never broken yor x-server :)
[05:08] <valehru> Hey guys, anyone else using azureus and dapper x64?  Every time an alert comes up from azureus the message refuses to leave the bottom right hand corner of the screen....I have to reboot azureus to get rid of it....any suggestions?
[05:08] <neotard> Cntryboy:  "bzip2 -c -d <filename> | tar -xvf"
[05:08] <dooglus> Cntryboy: the current directory
[05:08] <Cntryboy> shouldn't it extracted the folder on desktop?
[05:08] <Aven> SurfnKid: how would I find out?
[05:08] <SurfnKid> um
[05:08] <SurfnKid> type this
[05:08] <Cntryboy> neotard what does that do?
[05:09] <SurfnKid> lspci
[05:09] <neotard> Cntryboy:  nvm, I didn't see the rest.  dooglus told you the right thing.
[05:09] <farous> valehru: it is common problem here too
[05:09] <Warbo> Does someone know how I can make a random number with a set maximum in bash?
[05:09] <eclypse> farous, I didn't BREAK it perse, I followed cwillo's advice ;)
[05:09] <Sivik> nickrud, stupid question, but don't rangers mimerize spells?
[05:09] <eclypse> farous, I merely need to edit that xorg file, and it'll be fine
[05:09] <Aven> SurfnKid: whenI used windows xp, 1280 resolution worked
[05:09] <neotard> Cntryboy:  it does the same thing you just did though.  it uses bzip to decompress and pipes that to tar for unarchiving.
[05:09] <IcemanV9> how come i don't see core anywhere on my box when the app crashed??
[05:09] <Cntryboy> now it showed up as usr with a key lock on it
[05:09] <Aven> ubuntu doesn't though
[05:09] <eclypse> farous, but this bloody screen wont go away...
[05:09] <Cntryboy> so shouldn't I move this to the usr dir?
[05:09] <eclypse> farous, nevermind I finally got it to leave
[05:10] <farous> eclypse: i have broken xserver a lot too so so not worry :)
[05:10] <valehru> farous, any fix for it? or is it common only to dapper?  Someone suggested uninstalling the non sun version of java, and install the sun jdk/jre, but still no fix
[05:10] <neotard> Aven:  does CTRL-+ do anything?
[05:10] <dooglus> Cntryboy: didn't it make a directory called 'usr' in Desktop?
[05:10] <neotard> just out of curiousity :)
[05:10] <SurfnKid> Aven: XP might have configured your card with PNP but Ubuntu might not have, especially if its a really new card. is it ATI
[05:10] <Cntryboy> yes it did dooglus
[05:10] <farous> valehru: i run sun java here
[05:10] <nickrud> Sivik, we were so close to off topic, we have now crossed over
[05:10] <Cntryboy> I said that
[05:10] <eclypse> farous, what editor works with just the black screen linux bash?
[05:10] <Aven> neotard: Ctrl and +?
[05:10] <eFoX> SurfnKid: damm. Same thing
[05:10] <valehru> farous, yeah me too...
[05:10] <DewBoy3d> can anyone help a new user with a mouse problem? my mouse (logitech optical USB) stops responding about a minute after  logging into my dekstop.
[05:10] <Cntryboy> but shouldn't that usr folder be in the usr directory?
[05:10] <neotard> Aven:  YEAH :)
[05:10] <eclypse> farous, text editor
[05:10] <neotard> oops
[05:10] <sivanicon> How do you check the groups you are apart of?
[05:10] <valehru> ANyone else having that azureus problem?
[05:10] <farous> eclypse: nano or pico
[05:11] <Sivik> nickrud, ok
[05:11] <Aven> neotard: nope it doesn't
[05:11] <eclypse> farous, AH ok, I forgot about nano, lol
[05:11] <eclypse> farous, told you I can't remember shit
[05:11] <farous> valehru: i can only get rid of it by killing java
[05:11] <dooglus> Cntryboy: you can "cd /; sudo tar xf ~/Desktop/gyach*bz2" to extract it to the right place
[05:11] <Sivik> join me in nickrud then
[05:11] <valehru> but doesnt that kill azureus then?
[05:11] <nickrud> Sivik, off-topic
[05:11] <Warbo> Cntryboy: If I extracted something like that the I would put all of it's stuff in /usr/local
[05:11] <KevinIN72> what is a good php site setup thing for ex. php nuke
[05:11] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: i have one same as yours; unplug it and plug it back
[05:11] <Sivik> ok
[05:11] <neotard> Aven:  What he's saying is that your card probably just isn't setup the same is all.  idk if there's an easier way to do it, but if you open up a command line and run through "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" you will run through the xserver config
[05:11] <nickrud> there are other users of nwn, who know more than i
[05:12] <SurfnKid> eFoX: :S even after sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:12] <PORDO> swim i use cowon products, which support vorbis and flac, and i find them far superior to anything apple offers.
[05:12] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: and try other usb port if you have more than one, too
[05:12] <eclypse> farous, x is booting now
[05:12] <DewBoy3d> IcemanV9: thanks, i'll try that. any clue why it's happening?
[05:12] <farous> eclypse: great wish you luck my friend
[05:12] <Cntryboy> warbo how do I move it there with out overwriting the usr folder
[05:12] <neotard> Aven:  when you go through the configuration you can choose what resolutions you want displayed there, and it's in a fairly easy, user-friendly interface :)
[05:12] <eFoX> SurfnKid: ya :'(
[05:12] <eclypse> farous, well now its saying mesa instead of no screens found :D, progress is being made.
[05:12] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: interrupt conflict .. i had to use one specific for my mouse to be usable all the time.
[05:12] <swim> PORDO I only got the ipod because it was 60 bucks usd... and my rio karma busted
[05:12] <dooglus> valehru: that's a bug in gtk+, not azureus.  recent betas of azureus work around it though
[05:12] <farous> eclypse: if there are stil prob look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what is wrong
[05:13] <neotard> Aven:  read the dialogues!
[05:13] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: *specific usb port
[05:13] <valehru> really...ok....I'll check it out...thanks dooglus..
[05:13] <PORDO> swim my rio karma busted three times in a row, and i finally went through hell to get a refund.  rio SUCKS.
[05:13] <Warbo> Cntryboy: "sudo cp -r usr/* /usr/local"  I think (notice there is NOT a slash before the first usr)
[05:13] <nickrud> Sivik, there is a lively community of nwn users on bioware
[05:13] <Netbrian> Every now and then, my Ubuntu box just suddenly freezes, and won't respond until after a reboot.  I'm using the latest public release, and only run GAIM and Firefox when this happens.  I don't think this is a hardware issue -- it never happens no matter how long I run Windows.
[05:13] <SurfnKid> eFoX: i cant believe you even got wlan0 to show up, i couldnt even get that far. does eth0 now replace wlan0?
[05:13] <valehru> dooglus, what version gets around it?
[05:13] <dooglus> valehru, farous, get a recent beta of azureus and the bug goes away.
[05:13] <PORDO> swim use rockbox man, from what i've read it works great.
[05:13] <eclypse> farous, lol, I'de rather not look through 1000 lines of errors :D
[05:13] <Sivik> ok
[05:13] <DewBoy3d> IcemanV9: can you explain how you fixed it. i am a very new linux user
[05:13] <eFoX> SurfnKid: i rejusted my /etc/network/interfaces and now i just restarted it, and im going to see what that does
[05:13] <Netbrian> Anyone have an idea what might cause this?
[05:13] <dooglus> valehru: any recent beta.  I'm using <IP_ADDRESS>_B42 and it's fine.
[05:13] <eFoX> SurfnKid: wlan0 was replaced with eth1
[05:13] <SurfnKid> ok
[05:13] <valehru> dooglus, currently running <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:13] <valehru> cool
[05:14] <valehru> will check it out
[05:14] <SurfnKid> eFoX: oh ok well check if it works on eth1
[05:14] <eclypse> farous, but progress is most definately being made
[05:14] <dooglus> valehru: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[05:14] <neotard> is there an easier way to configure X than hacking the xorg.conf file OR doing dpkg-reconfigure?
[05:14] <PORDO> Netbrian no, but that's certainly bizarre.
[05:14] <farous> eclypse: you will spend longer times with trial an error. unless you are dam lucky ;)
[05:14] <sorcre> Hello, I was setting up my Nvidia drivers and somehow my X configuration file was corrupted. I looked for the backup that was syppose to be made but it's not there. Is there anything I can do?
[05:14] <eFoX> SurfnKid: nope. I tried most interfaces.
[05:14] <eclypse> off topic question, has anyone ever brute force hacked a windows computer?
[05:14] <Warbo> Netbrian: It may be a problem with proprietary drivers, if you use one
[05:14] <eclypse> remotely
[05:14] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: on my box, i have three usb ports .. only one port is very stable for my mouse and other two are not stable.
[05:14] <Netbrian> Is there anything I could do to log this sort of behavior to find out for sure?
[05:14] <eFoX> SurfnKid: let me try and make this simpler, im going to make my network open with no wep
[05:14] <ardchoille> Can I change the resolution on tty1-6 simply by adding "vga=791" to menu.lst or do I need something more?
[05:14] <Warbo> eclypse: There is a Live CD which can "recover" Windows passwords
[05:15] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: other two are bad enough that i have to unplug and plug it back every 30 minutes or so.
[05:15] <neotard> Netbrian:  what ubuntu are you using?
[05:15] <eclypse> warbo, I am aware, are you talking about ophcrack?
[05:15] <Netbrian> Dapper Drake.
[05:15] <neotard> Netbrian:  did you upgrade from breezy badger?
[05:15] <Warbo> eclypse: I was actually talking about RIP, but there are probably a few
[05:15] <Netbrian> No, this was a fresh install.
[05:15] <eclypse> warbo, can you send me a link to RIP?
[05:15] <Cntryboy> dang how do I move this usr folder on desktop to trash, it won't let me
[05:15] <DewBoy3d> IcemanV9: i see. just switched ports and is working now. we'll see how it goes
[05:16] <eclypse> farous, damnit, now its saying no screens found again!
[05:16] <Cntryboy> stupid lock on it
[05:16] <valehru> dooglus, thx...
[05:16] <Warbo> eclypse: Google? (I can't really be bothered at 4:16 AM)
[05:16] <eclypse> warbo, what can be achieved through brute force hacking?
[05:16] <eclypse> warbo, I understand
[05:16] <neotard> Netbrian:  I had a 'similar' (that could totally be untrue because random freezes could be a number of things) after upgradeing to dapper.
[05:16] <Cntryboy> I tried sudo rm usr with in that dir
[05:16] <DewBoy3d> IcemanV9: thanks for the help
[05:16] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: sure.
[05:16] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[05:16] <Warbo> eclypse: A valid excuse for purchasing extremely expensive computing equipment
[05:16] <Netbrian> Any idea how to at least run some sort of logging?
[05:16] <valehru> Cntryboy, sudo -R directoryName
[05:17] <eclypse> warbo lol...
[05:17] <dooglus> valehru: did you get it working?  if not, you need to rename the .jar file over the top of the old one
[05:17] <valehru> Cntryboy, sudo rm -R directoryName
[05:17] <eclypse> warbo, I'm still not entirely sure of that answer.
[05:17] <neotard> Netbrian:  well, you could definitely check /var/log for stuff
[05:17] <Cntryboy> what does -R mean
[05:17] <Lukian> man rm
[05:17] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: if you're inside that usr dir, you can't rm it unless there is another usr dir inside the usr dir. Make sense?
[05:17] <Lukian> @ Cntryboy
[05:17] <Warbo> Ok, I'm getting no answers here
[05:17] <dooglus> Cntryboy: type "sudo rm -fr ~/Desktop/usr"
[05:17] <SurfnKid> eFoX: sure thing that might work
[05:17] <Cntryboy> no I wasn't in the dir itself was in the dir that had the dir..
[05:18] <Cntryboy> what does -R mean though in lamen terms so ill know
[05:18] <SurfnKid> eFoX: when i got my wifi running, i didnt care for wep, i was just glad it worked, took me a while
[05:18] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: see what dooglus posted
[05:18] <Lukian> Cntryboy: type 'man rm'
[05:18] <rredd4> I use ndiswrapper, kernel is <IP_ADDRESS>.  update manager recently upgraded the kernel to <IP_ADDRESS>.  Do I have to setup ndiswrapper from scratch, or can I transfer the needed files somehow?
[05:18] <dooglus> Cntryboy: -R is the same as -r or --recursive
[05:18] <valehru> Cntryboy, rm -R means delete recursivley
[05:18] <SurfnKid> eFoX: why dont you just enable mac-filtering that way no one associates with your router. Encryption has overhead :/
[05:18] <valehru> etc..
[05:18] <valehru> lol
[05:18] <valehru> dooglus, downloading it now..
[05:18] <L-----D> !driver
[05:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about driver
[05:19] <Cntryboy> lol what does recursivley mean to linux..?
[05:19] <L-----D> !audio
[05:19] <valehru> !xgl
[05:19] <dooglus> SurfnKid: because it's trivial to change your mac address?
[05:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio
[05:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:19] <SeanTater> L-----D: ubotu got a recent lobotomy
[05:19] <SeanTater> L-----D: he's being reprogrammed by seveas
[05:19] <Cntryboy> btw it worked, just trying to understand what the command means in dummy terms
[05:19] <valehru> ahhh
[05:19] <valehru> lol
[05:19] <SurfnKid> dooglus: good point but what are the chances to get it right
[05:19] <sn00p> Does anybody know if belkin wireless usb adapters work in ubuntu?
[05:19] <L-----D> SeanTater: I see
[05:19] <dooglus> Cntryboy: recursive means folders, and sub-folders, and sub-sub-folders, and ... recursively.
[05:19] <eFoX> SurfnKid: That is an option. However, why cant i no longer scan. I SHOULD be able to get this working since it was working before. And @ school I want to be able to connect to the school servers and I wont have access to their firewalls and 'routers'
[05:20] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: recursive means to perform the command on the dir and all dirs and contents of those dirs within the main dir
[05:20] <Alth> Anyone know a good MP3 tagger?
[05:20] <eFoX> dammit ! this is where windows xp is good for ! It finds, it connects, it asks you for a password...your good to go
[05:20] <dooglus> SurfnKid: if it's not using encryption, then you sniff a mac address from an existing connection, and use that.
[05:20] <SurfnKid> eFoX: dang
[05:20] <ardchoille> Alth: easytag
[05:20] <Cntryboy> oh okay thx bros
[05:20] <SeanTater> ubotu tell L-----D about sound
[05:20] <eFoX> SurfnKid: tell me bout it
[05:20] <Cntryboy> makes sense
[05:20] <Alth> Ok ardchoille  :)
[05:20] <SurfnKid> dooglus: doesnt that suck :P
[05:20] <SeanTater> L-----D: is that useful to you?
[05:21] <dooglus> SurfnKid: that's why people use encryption!
[05:21] <farous> eFoX: what is your wireless card
[05:21] <farous> broadcom
[05:21] <SurfnKid> dooglus: except in my town
[05:21] <eFoX> farous: yes
[05:21] <slugicide> Thanks, SurfnKid, for the WiFi FAQ, but it didn't help.  I'm online, but I can't share files with windows.  Tell me where to go?
[05:21] <SurfnKid> dooglus: everyone is an idiot here
[05:21] <L-----D> SeanTater: yep, thanks
[05:21] <dooglus> SurfnKid: everyone?
[05:21] <ardchoille> SurfnKid: not everyone ;)
[05:21] <farous> eFoX: did you try the bcm43xx pakcage
[05:21] <eFoX> farous: i tried using dapper's driver, and it sucked, so i blacklisted it and used ndiswrapper
[05:21] <SurfnKid> dooglus: sorry. i mean here in my city, its awful
[05:21] <Cntryboy> what does the / mean in this command?   mv gyach*.tar.bz2 /
[05:21] <eFoX> farous: what is that ?
[05:21] <neotard> the biggest room is the room for improvement, therefore everyone is an idiot :D
[05:21] <Cntryboy> what dir is /
[05:21] <farous> there is a how to on the forums and i am running it here flawleslly
[05:21] <dooglus> SurfnKid: I was wondering if you live in your town
[05:21] <GoClick> gavagai if I use "screen" when I quit SSH screen will be closed, won't it?
[05:22] <SurfnKid> dooglus: dont ask
[05:22] <SurfnKid> dooglus: hehe
[05:22] <Rug> Cntryboy: root
[05:22] <eFoX> farous: really ?
[05:22] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: means to move it to the root dir
[05:22] <SeanTater> Cntryboy: it means the root directory, the top level directory
[05:22] <eFoX> farous: there are alot of how-to's...do you have a particular one ?
[05:22] <farous> eFoX: search for bcm43xx module package and install the one that correspond to your linux-image
[05:22] <SurfnKid> eFoX: thats why i dont use wep, because every other wifi-router around my hood is open, no one really knows SSID's broadcast by default
[05:22] <Cntryboy> so sudo doesn't mean to root dir it just means switch to root user which is admin then right?
[05:22] <gavagai> GoClick, no
[05:22] <neotard> GoClick:  screen after you detach from it will not close after you log out
[05:22] <farous> eFoX: i know the steps do nto bother to bookmark them
[05:22] <dooglus> Cntryboy: right
[05:23] <SurfnKid> farous: hey is that package for Dapper?
[05:23] <Cntryboy> okay thx
[05:23] <farous> SurfnKid: yap
[05:23] <SurfnKid> I want that bookmark
[05:23] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: sudo means to perform the command as root user
[05:23] <gavagai> GoClick, you can detach the screen session with ctrl-a d
[05:23] <SurfnKid> even tho im back on Breezy :/
[05:23] <gavagai> GoClick, but if you just disconnect it still stays running
[05:23] <dooglus> Cntryboy: / is the root directory - the top directory.  "root" is the admin user.  confusing I guess, having two things called 'root'
[05:23] <farous> ok give me a min to search for a good howto
[05:23] <SurfnKid> but I have another laptop with a bcm43xx adapter, thatll gimme homework :P
[05:23] <SurfnKid> farous:  you rock thanks man
[05:24] <swim> whats good for converting ogg to mp3?
[05:24] <neotard> Aven:  how's it going with X?
[05:24] <emiliano_26> hi men!
[05:24] <eFoX> isnt ogg better than mp3s ?
[05:24] <Aven> neotard: going great, ty :]
[05:24] <neotard> emiliano_26:  who you calling a man?!
[05:24] <dooglus> swim: converting from ogg to mp3 is never good.  it makes the sound worse.
[05:24] <eFoX> oh...want it on a mp3 player that doesnt support ogg ?
[05:24] <Aven> sorry, can't send PMs
[05:24] <Aven> haven't identified
[05:25] <emiliano_26> somebody can tell me how can I do to enter in spanish???
[05:25] <[aj] > I'm trying to install something using apt-get and it keeps telling me to insert the cd. Is there a way to install from the internet instead of by CD?
[05:25] <emiliano_26> it is something like ubuntu es???
[05:25] <Vaske_Car> Is there more Mac or Linux desktop users?
[05:25] <dooglus> swim: what about 'sox'?
[05:25] <GoClick> it seems my giant ass sql killed the serve
[05:25] <farous> SurfnKid: it is not perfect but better than nothing. linux-<IP_ADDRESS> will have native support for broadcom so the next release of ubuntu i believe
[05:25] <swim> dooglus: its for my ipod...
[05:25] <dooglus> swim:  SOX (SOund eXchange) is a generic utility for translating
[05:25] <dooglus>  sound files from one format to another
[05:25] <IcemanV9> !es
[05:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:25] <sivanicon> I ran these two command 'sudo groupadd -g 500 fat' 'sudo usermod -G fat msivanich' now im unable to use 'sudo ' anything. Any ideas?
[05:26] <ardchoille> [aj] : you can comment out the cd line in your sources.list, then install
[05:26] <neotard> [aj] :  good question!  you can install from the internet in debian, but ubuntu doesn't hand out a netinstall kernal and initrd
[05:26] <emiliano_26> thanks!
[05:26] <GoClick> Oh no it didn't I just used the lan connection not the remote
[05:26] <swim> thanks dooglus
[05:26] <farous> SurfnKid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:26] <slugicide> Is there a trick to getting windows and ubuntu to share files? They can see each other via wireless, but no access.
[05:26] <dooglus> sivanicon: if you run "id" in a shell, are you still shown as being in the admin group?
[05:26] <neotard> slugicide:
[05:27] <neotard> oops
[05:27] <slugicide> Ak!
[05:27] <SurfnKid> dooglus: goin back to this town thing.. well no one uses linux around here and its just a few of those around town who do, who i dont really know, everyone else uses windows, or just no PC at all. i could be wrong :P
[05:27] <neotard> silly touchstream O.o
[05:27] <eFoX> farous: is this what you currently used and were successful with ?
[05:27] <SurfnKid> farous: thats the page im on!
[05:27] <dr_willis> slugicide,  to get windows to see the linux shares. you proberly need to do a "sudo smbpasswd -a username" for the linux users.. also you may need to edit the smb.conf file to enabel browseable home's and writeable homes
[05:27] <farous> eFoX: i am not dual booting debian and ubuntu
[05:27] <farous> am on my debian box now
[05:27] <SurfnKid> farous: might have missed that package
[05:27] <valehru> dooglus, azureus is finally working...thanks for the tip
[05:27] <cwillu> how can I list the users or groups from the commandline?
[05:28] <farous> eFoX: but this page is quite similar to what i did
[05:28] <gavagai> GoClick, so then to reattach the screen session you do:  screen -dr.  screen is so useful, it has multiple windows, cut/paste, etc
[05:28] <slugicide> OK, dr.  ...
[05:28] <sivanicon> dooglus , i get uid=1000(msivanich) gid=1000(msivanich) groups=500(fat), 1000(msivanich)
[05:28] <Cntryboy> grr
[05:28] <farous> SurfnKid: eFoX look at using the new broadcom driver
[05:28] <gavagai> i'm irc'ing from inside screen
[05:28] <Cntryboy> where can I find this file? cd@cd-desktop:/usr/local/bin$ gyach
[05:28] <Cntryboy> gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:28] <SurfnKid> ok
[05:29] <ardchoille> gavagai: me too, I love screen+irssi
[05:29] <farous> SurfnKid: you need the bcmwl.sys file though there is a link i think to where you can download one
[05:29] <SurfnKid> farous: not the bcmwl5.sys from before
[05:29] <gavagai> ardchoille, yeah that's what i'm using as well
[05:29] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[05:29] <farous> the window one that i have did not work here had to download one from the net
[05:29] <dooglus> sivanicon: so you're not in the admin group.  that's why you can't 'sudo'
[05:30] <dooglus> sivanicon: what do you see if you "grep ^admin: /etc/group"?
[05:30] <eFoX> farous: what do you think I should do with ndiswrapper ? Uninstall it ?
[05:30] <sivanicon> dooglus: admin:x:112
[05:31] <dooglus> SurfnKid: "sudo apt-get install libltdl3"
[05:31] <SurfnKid> farous: ill give that a shot with my other laptop sometime, im gonna get it goin
[05:31] <farous> eFoX: yah i never managed to make it work. after the installation and getting the device whenever i make a scan there is always no results
[05:31] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[05:31] <dooglus> sivanicon: so nobody is in group admin.  nobody can use 'sudo' on your PC
[05:31] <cwillu> heh
[05:31] <sivanicon> nice
[05:31] <dooglus> Cntryboy: "sudo apt-get install libltdl3"
[05:31] <rredd4> when I change kernels do I have to reload nidswrapper and drivers from scratch?
[05:32] <cwillu> yay for single-user mode
[05:32] <sivanicon> dooglus: how did i manage this with those 2 commands?
[05:32] <SurfnKid> so far my 8600 dell is working smooth, dont wanna mess with that you know
[05:32] <sivanicon> dooglus and does this mean reinstall or is there another way?
[05:32] <neotard> Cntryboy:  instead of asking each step on files missing and software, you might look into synaptic.
[05:32] <cwillu> sivanicon: single user mode will give you a root prompt
[05:32] <ardchoille> sivanicon: you can't sudo or get root privs?
[05:33] <nekostar> desktopbsd failed... pcbsd failed... now lets see if i fail gentoo ~_~ bbiab
[05:33] <sivanicon> archoille correct
[05:33] <ardchoille> sivanicon: I am curious as to how you managed that
[05:33] <dooglus> sivanicon: the usermod -G did it - from the man page: "If the user is currently a member of a group which is not listed, the user will be removed from the group".  so you removed yourself from the 'admin' group.
[05:34] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[05:34] <sivanicon> *clap* *clap*
[05:34] <sivanicon> im a genius
[05:34] <rredd4> Hobbsee since I have a new kernel, do I have to reload nidswrapper and drivers from scratch?
[05:34] <dooglus> ardchoille: he did "sudo usermod -G <some list not including admin> <his-username>"
[05:34] <Hobbsee> rredd4: probably.  try it.
[05:34] <ardchoille> dooglus: I see
[05:34] <Hobbsee> rredd4: i think i did, yeah.
[05:34] <carpediem> has anyone noticed this - the Dapper Live/Install CD's version of parted only has ext2 support, but the default is ext3 so when Ubiquity tries to create the filesystem it fails.  How can a major bug like this be so unnoticed?
[05:34] <cwillu> that has to be the worst user interface design ever
[05:35] <neotard> carpediem:  meh, use reiser :D
[05:35] <sivanicon> so is there any way to make this right or do i have to reinstall?
[05:35] <dooglus> sivanicon: you need to reboot into single-user mode / rescue mode; maybe  you can do that from your grub menu?  or from an install CD?  and then run "adduser <yourname> admin"
[05:35] <SurfnKid> Ubiquity?
[05:35] <sivanicon> dooglus