[00:00] <Monika|K> but so far what people reported on kubuntu-de.org after trying it was that it didn't make a difference for them
[00:01] <DreadKnight> i'm an artist...into design/graphics and such
[00:01] <DreadKnight> blender/gimp/inkscape and all that stuff
[00:01] <Monika|K> with really large or detailed graphics that require lots of RAM for editing?
[00:01] <Monika|K> then it might make a difference
[00:01] <DreadKnight> for checking mail and watching movies or chatting i think it won't make a difference anyway
[00:02] <Monika|K> yeah
[00:02] <Monika|K> for that one can use one's netbook ^^
[00:02] <DreadKnight> yeah
[00:04] <Monika|K> I <3 my Netbook ... it fits into my handback ... it's red and pretty ... :)
[00:06] <DreadKnight> hehe
[00:06] <DreadKnight> have pics?
[00:07] <Monika|K> http://www.cyberport.de/default/9095/9000/0/0/default.html?showAllManufacturers=0&HERSTELLER=47 scroll down till you see a red one
[00:08] <Monika|K> s/handback/handbag
[00:08] <Monika|K> I can't spell past midnight
[00:09] <DreadKnight> no worries
[00:09] <DreadKnight> Monika|K: that looks very nice; so it's not only apple producing nice hardware after all :P
[00:10] <DreadKnight> did the white parts got yellowish or dirty so far i wonder
[00:10] <Monika|K> no, not at all
[00:11] <DreadKnight> ^^
[00:11] <Monika|K> well, some keys
[00:11] <Monika|K> food <--> computing
[00:11] <DreadKnight> haha
[00:11] <DreadKnight> i really have audio jacks in the front on my tablet pc
[00:11] <DreadKnight> pushes me into the belly when watching movies in bed and ruins the headphone jack...
[00:11] <DreadKnight> seems yours has them on the right side.. nice
[00:12] <Monika|K> and one USB left and one right
[00:12] <Monika|K> not over each other like on my laptop
[00:12] <Monika|K> where they get into each other's way
[00:13] <DreadKnight> mhm
[00:13] <DreadKnight> i have 2 on left side and one on the back side
[00:13] <DreadKnight> but i see your point
[00:45] <ScottK-palm> o/
[00:53] <bokey> ScottK: ping
[00:55] <ScottK-palm> bokey: pong.
[00:55] <bokey> ScottK-palm: oh sorry. yeah the upgrade went smoothly yesterday. do you want the log i saved?
[00:56] <bokey> 4.2.0 -> 4.2.2
[00:56] <ScottK-palm> Yes.  Please.
[00:56] <bokey> ScottK-palm: hang on a sec
[00:56] <ScottK-palm> Please mail it to scott at kitterman dot com
[00:58] <bokey> ScottK-palm: sure
[01:00] <ScottK-palm> Riddell: After I review bokey's report, I'm planning to push 4.2.2 to intrepid-backports.
[01:02] <DreadKnight> yey, one more reason to downgrade to intrepid
[01:36] <joshjtl> joshjtl: hey folks where can i get an older ubuntu official kernell? I want 2.6.27
[01:42] <ScottK> bokey: Got it.  Haven't looked at it yet.
[01:55] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: So i herd u liek adept, so I put adept in your kpackagekit so that you can install while you install
[01:57] <JontheEchidna> oh, I forgot to start it with "sup dawg"
[01:57] <ScottK> bokey: One complication ....
[01:58] <ScottK> KDE 4.2.2 needs a newer libical0 than we have in Intrepid.  To backport that, we need to test it with the other rdepends.
[01:58] <ScottK> bokey: Up for some more testing?
[02:21] <bokey> ScottK: sorry was detached. what do i need to do?
[02:27] <bokey> i have libical0 (0.43-2ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1) installed
[02:33] <ScottK-desktop> Right, so if you look at apt-cache rdepends libical0 we need to see if those packages work with your libical0
[02:33] <ScottK-desktop> There's a few.
[02:34] <bokey> yep
[02:35] <ScottK-desktop> Your log looked good.  I think this is the only blocker.
[02:36] <bokey> ScottK: so you want the output?
[02:40] <ScottK-desktop> bokey: I'm good with a bug against intrepid-backports asking for a backport of libical from Jaunty and listing which ones you tested and that they work.
[02:41] <bokey> ScottK-desktop: ok just pulled osmo which uses libical0 (0.43-2ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1). works fine
[02:42] <bokey> osmo's ver - 0.2.0-1ubuntu0.1
[02:42] <ScottK-desktop> bokey: Just work through the list and put it in the bug.
[02:42] <bokey> ScottK-desktop: how about i mail it to ya?
[02:43] <ScottK-desktop> bokey: From a process perspective I need the bug.  It's really better if I don't file it myself since I have to approve it.
[02:51] <bokey> ScottK-desktop: url?
[02:51] <ScottK-desktop> SUre.
[02:51] <ScottK-desktop> bokey: https://launchpad.net/intrepid-backports/+filebug
[02:53] <bokey> ScottK-desktop: so basically you want me to work through list of rdepends of libical0 and then file a bug report for?
[02:54] <ScottK-desktop> Saying Please backport libical (insert exact version) from Jaunty to Intrepid.
[02:54] <bokey> kewl
[02:54] <ScottK-desktop> Then in  the body of the bug say it builds, installs, runs and you tested the following rdepends ....
[02:55] <bokey> yep
[02:55] <bokey> will do that in an couple of hours (gtg for now)
[02:55] <bokey> see ya
[02:55] <ScottK-desktop> OK.
[03:09] <JontheEchidna> whoa, nice. Our automoc delta with debian is just debian/changelog and the Maintainer: field
[03:10] <ScottK-desktop> \o/
[03:12] <JontheEchidna> yeah, I'm looking at merges already :P
[03:12] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KarmicKDEMerges
[03:13] <JontheEchidna> not for KDE or anything, but for stuff that is'nt likely to change soon
[03:14] <JontheEchidna> 4.2.3 is tagged in four days
[09:33] <_Sime> that's a pleasant surprise. KDE4'ed kdiff3.
[10:04] <markey> You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
[10:04] <markey> been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
[10:04] <markey> being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
[10:04] <markey><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:04] <markey> hum
[10:04] <markey> my mail was pretty important, yep ;)
[10:05]  * markey subscribes
[10:31] <markey> Nightrose: tried to CC kubuntu-devel, but the mail got rejected
[10:32] <markey> so I'm subscribing, and will try to send again
[10:32] <Nightrose> ok
[10:32] <Nightrose> man I should go packing my stuff and get the next train
[10:32] <Nightrose> meh
[10:32] <markey> :)
[11:41] <Quintasan> Hiho
[12:16] <Mamarok> I just managed to crash SystemSettings twice in a row:
[12:17] <Mamarok> SystemSettings -> keyboard&Mouse -> click on Mouse and it hangs
[12:21] <ghostcube> Mamarok, works fine here so far oO
[12:22] <Mamarok> hm, what is wrong on my system then
[12:22] <Mamarok> 4 times in a row now, so reproducible every time for me
[12:27] <usr> hi
[12:42] <ghostcube> hmm update problem from the experimental ppa and the network-manager-kde package
[12:42] <ghostcube> wants to kick plasma-widget-network-manager
[12:45] <Riddell> ScottK-desktop: excellent (4.2.2 to backports)
[12:49] <Riddell> markey: I can whitelist you if you don't want to subscribe
[12:49] <Riddell> infact I could whitelist *amarok* if that might be useful
[12:52] <ghostcube> hmm should i just remove the plasma widget
[12:52] <ghostcube> and install network-manager-kde
[13:15] <a|wen> ghostcube: do you want to have the widget or the knetworkmanager?
[13:20] <markey> Riddell: thanks, but subscribing is fine, gmail can handle many filters ;) anyway, could you accept my subscription request?
[13:24] <Riddell> hmm? I shouldn't need to accept anything
[13:24] <Riddell> you just need to confirm it when the confirm e-mail arrives
[13:25] <markey> I never got one. it said the submission request is gonna be evaluated, I think
[13:26] <markey> maybe someone changed the settings recently?
[13:26] <markey> anyway, in that case you should have got an admin request
[13:26] <markey> s/submission/subscription
[13:27] <Quintasan> anyone compiled new amarok?
[13:29] <Quintasan> oh my, looks like I was missing build deps :/
[13:31] <Riddell> markey: just spam in the moderation queue
[13:31] <Riddell> markey: what's your address?  I can subscribe you manually
[13:31] <markey> strange, maybe I mistyped my email address then, it's possible
[13:31] <markey><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:32] <Riddell> Successfully subscribed:
[13:32] <Riddell><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:32] <markey> cheers :)
[13:32] <markey> ok, gonna resend my mail
[13:32]  * Riddell whitelists @kde.org for good measure
[13:34] <Quintasan> Riddell: who should I poke for having mask on irc?
[13:37] <ikonia> Quintasan: #freenode
[13:37] <Quintasan> ikonia: hmm, ok thanks
[14:10] <e-jat> anyone successfully play 3gp file in jaunty ?
[14:10] <e-jat> video+sound ?
[14:22] <neversfelde> e-jat: Support is in #kubuntu
[14:22] <e-jat> neversfelde: k thanks ..
[15:29] <ghostcube> a|wen, have been away sorry
[15:29] <ghostcube> you cant decide what you want if you have the ppa opened it will say its conflicting with plasma
[15:29] <ghostcube> if you do dist-upgrade
[15:32] <a|wen> are we on intrepid or jaunty?
[15:33] <a|wen> which ppa? and i take that you are trying to install the plasma-widget-network-manager?
[15:36] <ghostcube> a|wen, the experimental ppa moment iam searching
[15:36] <ghostcube> and i just do dist-upgrade
[15:36] <a|wen> on intrepid?
[15:36] <ghostcube> jaunty sorry
[15:36] <ghostcube> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:38] <a|wen> ghostcube: can you pastebin the error you get from the dist-upgrade?
[15:38] <ghostcube> yep moment pls
[15:39] <Gon> it is advisable to use kubuntu-experimental jaunty?
[15:40] <Gon> I have some issues with plasma
[15:40] <ghostcube> http://pastie.org/458647  a|wen sorry its german
[15:41] <ghostcube> its claiming only about an desktop file
[15:41] <ghostcube> i think this isnt very hard to fix
[15:41] <Gon> After a while of use, the icons disappear and are drawn down the desktop
[15:43] <ghostcube> Gon, on jaunty ? i dont have any probs so far except two updates dont want to work one is ubuntu related so i mentioned it in ubuntu#motu i hope it will be fixed
[15:43] <ghostcube> :D
[15:44] <a|wen> ghostcube: that file probably got moved around ... it's an old upload don't even know if it is relevant anymore
[15:44] <a|wen> Gon: there is nothing in the experimental PPA that will do any difference to that
[15:44] <ghostcube> a|wen, oh ok no prob then i deactivate the repo for now
[15:45] <Gon> Plasma is still the only problematic, but unfortunately is the most visible
[15:45] <a|wen> ghostcube: there doesn't seem to be anything "good" in it for jaunty atm
[15:45] <ghostcube> a|wen, ok thx for respond :) i will just comment it till something "good" is back ;)
[15:46] <a|wen> Gon: sounds like a strange issue ... the first time i hear about something like that
[15:46] <ghostcube> Gon, maybe driver related for the video card ?
[15:47] <Gon> maybe
[15:47] <Gon> i have intel xD
[15:47] <ghostcube> what card is this
[15:47] <ghostcube> oh
[15:47] <ghostcube> hmm on nvidia my probs are gone for now
[15:47] <ghostcube> qt 4.5 and 180.44 helped
[15:47] <Gon> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[15:49] <Gon> I going to take a screenshot when it occurs
[15:50] <Gon> occurs with and without compositing
[16:24] <ScottK> Gon: Look at the Jaunty release notes on Intel video problems.
[16:26] <Gon> link?
[16:28] <ScottK> Gon: Look on the web site.  User support questions really belong in #kubuntu and if you aren't interested enough in solving your problem to look up the release notes, I'm certainly not interested enough in it to look it up for you.
[16:28] <Gon> O_O
[16:29] <Gon> if I had no interest would not have asked
[16:29] <Gon> :/
[16:30] <ScottK> Sorry if that seemed harsh, but I'd have to look up the URL and it's approximately as much work for me to look it up as it is for you.
[16:32] <Gon> I had suggested to add Option "AccelMethod" "UXA"
[16:32] <Gon> in my xorg.conf
[16:32] <Gon> D:
[16:32] <Gon> :s
[16:32] <ScottK> UXA is one option that works for some.  I found it unstable.
[16:33]  * Gon restarting and testing
[16:59] <shtylman> Gon: ScottK: same problem I was taking about two days aggo
[16:59] <shtylman> *ago
[16:59] <shtylman> happens on my nvidial with dual screen
[16:59] <shtylman> but havn't seen it happen on another comp with nvidia single screen
[16:59] <Gon> !
[17:00] <ScottK> shtylman: Yes, but he was also talking about artifacts and stuff which has some Intel specific suckage on Jaunty.
[17:01] <shtylman> Gon: the quick fix to get icons and stuff back is to restart plasma: $> kquitapp plasma && sleep 1 && plasma
[17:01] <Gon> yes
[17:01]  * Gon kills plasma and restart again
[17:01] <shtylman> ScottK: I see...well, it seemed like the problem he described (loosing icons) is exactly what I am seeing
[17:01] <shtylman> might be more severe for intel...dunno
[17:02] <shtylman> it really is the weirdest bug though...
[17:02] <ScottK> It may be I read too quickly, but if you're using the stock config for Intel on Jaunty, life will suck, so solving that is the first thing, IMO.
[17:02] <shtylman> cause plasma is still there...just starge like decomposing itself :)
[17:03] <Gon> I add Option "DRI" "off"
[17:03] <Gon> but i can activate compositing :|
[17:04] <Gon> how this can be possible? D:
[17:04] <shtylman> ScottK: is there a better config than stock? ive always run with stock on my laptop (has intel) and seemed fine...
[17:04] <shtylman> Gon: software rendering?
[17:04] <ScottK> shtylman: For Intel you either want UXA or EXA with the Greedy migration heuristic for almost all systems.
[17:05] <Gon> doesn't look slow like software rendering, but... maybe
[17:05] <ScottK> The problem is that both of those are unstable on some systems, so neither is suitable for default.
[17:05] <Gon> Compositing type: OpenGL
[17:05] <Gon> D:
[17:06] <shtylman> gotcha
[18:57] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: bug 345076 is really not kde4libs is it?
[19:16] <hunger> Will there be qt 4.5.1 and qtcreator updates for jaunty?
[19:19] <smarter> Qt 4.5.1 won't be in Jaunty soon, due to regressions and the fact that a lot of people use -backports
[19:19] <smarter> but it might appears in a PPA
[19:19] <smarter> no idea for Qt Creator
[19:20] <smarter> *appear
[19:42] <hunger> Damn... jaunty isen't even out for a week now and I already need to upgrade to klumpsy kakadu (or whatever it will be called):-/
[19:43] <apachelogger> smarter: is there ever gonna be a new kepas?
[19:45] <hunger> debian already has qt 4.5.1 and the new qtcreator.
[19:45] <smarter> not in their stable repository.
[19:46] <smarter> apachelogger: no idea
[19:46] <smarter> that whole sharing stuff needs to be done at a more general level anyway
[19:47] <hunger> smarter: Well, I usually do not run stable releases of ubuntu either:-)
[19:57] <apachelogger> Quintasan: wanna update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/KDE
[20:15] <apachelogger> !info codeine
[20:15] <apachelogger> hihi
[20:15] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: codeine needs removal request
[20:20] <ScottK> apachelogger: Why?  It only uses kdelibs, so it should still be installable, working, etc.
[20:20] <apachelogger> ScottK: unmaintained upstream
[20:20] <apachelogger> superseded by dragonplayer
[20:22] <ScottK> Does it still work?
[20:22] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[20:23] <apachelogger> ScottK: there is no point in keeping it around, dragonplayer is featuring the same basic interface with more functionality
[20:24] <ScottK> OK.  Should we add a replaces to dragonplayer then?
[20:24] <apachelogger> yup
[20:24] <apachelogger> if there is not already one
[20:31] <Sput> what about kaffeine?
[20:31] <Sput> last time I tested the kde4 version, it looked quite decent
[20:31]  * ScottK looks around for someone who cares about it enough to do the paperwork.
[20:32] <ScottK> Sput: We'll upgrade that at some point.
[20:32] <Sput> (and I have tons of trouble with dragonplayer, which *still* can't properly skip in files)
[20:32] <Sput> I see :)
[20:39] <seele> hmm.. major fail on upgrading a hardy box to jaunty
[20:40] <ScottK> Really.  I did one and it was without problems.
[20:40] <ScottK> What was the problem?
[20:40] <seele> i dont know what's broken.. screen just goes blank after booting, but i can't kill X or use Ctrl F2 to get to a terminal
[20:40] <seele> i dunno yet.. rebooting
[20:41] <apachelogger> Sput: poke eean and vir with it :P
[20:43] <seele> hmm.. looks like a kernel problem
[20:43] <seele> older kernel worked
[20:44] <ScottK> Proprietary video driver that needs updating maybe?
[20:46] <seele> uhm.. do i use jockey for that?
[20:47] <seele> argh, have an angry fiance yelling about his broken computer
[20:51] <seele> where is the log for when the system is spitting out messages after the intial boot? when stuff goes [OK] [OK] [Failed]?
[20:52] <ScottK> Probably /var/log/syslog if no where else.
[20:54] <ScottK> seele: If it is a kernel issue you can probably boot into the old kernel and have it ~work.
[20:54] <seele> ScottK: yeah, that's what i've done for now.. but that's not good enough apparently
[20:54]  * ScottK really needs to go find the 6 year old, so hopes apachelogger can help.
[20:54] <seele> justin wants it *working*, not broken
[20:55] <seele> ballet? hehe
[20:55] <ScottK> No, just not where I can hear her anymore.
[21:18] <ghostcube> question since i installed mysqlserver 5.0 akonadi-server is on the autoremove packages
[21:19] <ghostcube> normal or bug to mention ?
[21:20] <ghostcube> and akonadi-kde
[22:55] <claydoh> any way to determine what is causing this bug: 367495
[22:55] <claydoh> bug 367495
[23:02] <Riddell> claydoh: check what's in /etc/lsb_release ?
[23:03] <claydoh> ok, mailing list user can't upgrade a vanilla intrepid to jaunty
[23:18] <lex79> claydoh: /etc/lsb-release not /etc/lsb_release
[23:19] <claydoh> sure?
[23:19] <lex79> yes
[23:19] <claydoh> well the command argument is lsb_release -a, so it is easy to mung up :)
[23:20] <lex79> in Jaunty is lsb-release, I don't remember if in intrepid is lsb_release, strange :)
[23:21] <claydoh> well her in jaunty land, the command is lsb_release -a, the other does not work ;)


[00:32] <poolie> jml/thumper: what does "most interesting" mean in the branch listing?
[00:57] <jml> poolie: what do you think it means?
[00:57] <thumper> :)
[01:25] <jml> poolie: so, I guess you aren't interested any more. It's the default sort order, that puts series branches at the beginning.
[01:45] <MTecknology> There's nothing we can do about it but wait though
[01:45] <MTecknology> wrong chan
[02:00] <poolie> jml ok i thought so
[02:00] <poolie> i probably even suggested that name and ordering
[02:02] <jml> poolie: yeah, I think so :)
[02:52] <roy_hobbs> Hey, if I'm commenting in a bug, how do I reference a bug properly so that it shows up as a link to that bug?
[03:11] <Ursinha> argh
[03:12] <MTecknology> Ursinha: hi
[03:13] <Ursinha> hi MTecknology
[03:13] <MTecknology> Ursinha: why the argh?
[03:14] <Ursinha> because I was going to answer roy_hobbs question, but he was already gone
[03:14] <MTecknology> i was too :P
[03:16] <wgrant> I tried about two minutes after he left :(
[03:16] <Ursinha> wgrant, frustrating, isn't it?
[03:16] <wgrant> Yes.
[03:18] <mwhudson> some people don't really get irc
[03:18] <MTecknology> !patience
[03:19] <MTecknology> :D
[03:20] <Ursinha> MTecknology, I wish I had one of that in #ubuntu-br :P
[03:20] <mwhudson> yes, but the people who need that message by definition aren't the ones who are going to read it :)
[03:20] <mwhudson> well, people like roy_hobbs anyway
[03:20] <mwhudson> there are other ways of not getting irc that make it appropriate i guess :)
[03:21] <MTecknology> Ursinha: I can drop my bot in there if you want - but it's an english only bot
[03:21] <Ursinha> that's the problem :( I have to take time to translate one
[03:22] <rockstar> Ursinha, there's this webapp that I know about that makes it really easy to translate applications...
[03:22] <Ursinha> mwhudson, I was more thinking of other kind of people that come and start cursing if no one answers
[03:22] <mwhudson> Ursinha: right yes
[03:22] <Ursinha> mwhudson, like "what community is that? what about neighbourhood and yada yada yada"
[03:22] <MTecknology> !br
[03:22] <Ursinha> uia
[03:22] <MTecknology> is that french?
[03:22] <Ursinha> rockstar, lol
[03:23] <Ursinha> MTecknology, plain portuguese :)
[03:23] <MTecknology> oh
[03:24] <MTecknology> !-patience
[03:24] <MTecknology> Ursinha: behavior-#ubuntu-br is <reply>Aguarde uma resposta.
[03:25] <MTecknology> I don't know how well it translates, but - As pessoas aqui são voluntários, sua atitude deve reflectir isso. As respostas nem sempre estão disponíveis. Ver http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:25] <poolie> i'm just loving the new edit-in-place on bug titles
[03:26] <MTecknology> poolie: check out what's coming
[03:26] <poolie> mm?
[03:26] <poolie> !help
[03:26] <MTecknology> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/239
[03:27] <poolie> meh
[03:27] <poolie> i don't want flying cars
[03:27] <MTecknology> I think that's what we're getting
[03:27] <poolie> i mean i'm sure it'll be cool but i'd rather an incremental step that fixes the current pain points
[03:27] <poolie> but that's just me
[03:41] <Ursinha> MTecknology, that translates pretty well
[03:41] <Ursinha> perfectly
[03:41] <MTecknology> Ursinha: awesome - google wins again
[03:41] <Ursinha> except for the "reflectir" that is pt from Portugal
[03:41] <Ursinha> in pt-br it's "refletir"
[03:42] <Ursinha> MTecknology, how does that work? you add a rule to the bot that if it's called in a channel foo the message will be bar?
[03:42] <MTecknology> JanC: that's what I was asking :P
[03:43] <MTecknology> JanC: heh - tab complete usually keeps me in the right channel;
[03:43] <MTecknology> Ursinha: ya
[03:43] <Ursinha> MTecknology, cool :)
[03:43] <Ursinha> can I try that in ubuntu-br?
[03:44] <MTecknology> bot: factoid-#channel is this
[03:44] <MTecknology> Ursinha: I don't know why not, I'm not an op there though
[03:44] <MTecknology> or ever in there
[03:44] <Ursinha> do you need op for that?
[03:44] <Ursinha> I'm an op there
[03:44] <MTecknology> no, but you need control over the bot
[03:44] <MTecknology> just do it
[03:45] <MTecknology> if it's anything like mine, at worst it will forward a request to the people who can edit it
[06:16] <AnAnt> Hello, thanks for project rename, now I have a question, that project had a bzr branch
[06:18] <AnAnt> I checked out this bzr on my laptop using (that was before project rename): bzr co lp:~ubuntume.team/ubuntume/sabily-keyring
[06:18] <AnAnt> now that URL changed to:   lp:~ubuntume.team/sabily/sabily-keyring
[06:19] <AnAnt> so I tried to do: bzr switch lp:~ubuntume.team/sabily/sabily-keyring , but I got this error:
[06:19] <AnAnt> bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to target of bound branch BzrBranch6('file:///home/ant1/Projects/sabily/sabily-keyring/') =><EMAIL_ADDRESS>Not a branch<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:19] <AnAnt> what should I do >
[06:19] <AnAnt> ?
[06:24] <spm> AnAnt: hrmmmm. at this stage I haven't migrated the team - want to verify with you before we destroy the old list etc. :-)
[06:24] <AnAnt> spm: oh, hello !
[06:24] <AnAnt> spm: I'm not jMehdi
[06:25] <AnAnt> spm: but I'll forward your response to the team's mailing list
[06:25] <spm> AnAnt: cool, that would be great
[06:25] <AnAnt> spm: do you have an answer for my question ?
[06:26] <spm> AnAnt: not yet - still looking around to see what's what
[06:27] <spm> mwhudson: jml: can either of you guys assist?
[06:27] <spm> AnAnt: I suspect you don't actually need to do the switch ?
[06:28] <mwhudson> AnAnt: try 'bzr unbind'
[06:29] <AnAnt> mwhudson: ok, I've done bzr unbind, then bzr switch ...., and I got this:  bzr: ERROR: Cannot switch a branch, only a checkout.
[06:30] <mwhudson> AnAnt: then bzr bind <new location>
[06:30] <AnAnt> oh, ok
[06:30] <AnAnt> that worked ! thanks !
[06:33] <AnAnt> spm: how much time will that mailing list stuff take ?
[06:33] <AnAnt> spm: we'll have to tell the team to stop using the list for some time, right ?
[06:33] <spm> AnAnt: shouldn't take more than 10-20 minutes max I'd expect.
[06:34] <spm> AnAnt: well. sorta. it's more I have to destroy it to do the name change :-(
[06:34] <spm> So it'll have the new sabily name/branding vs ubuntume
[06:34] <AnAnt> spm: and how could we re-import the archives ?
[06:35] <AnAnt> & subscribers ?
[06:35] <spm> AnAnt: that I'll do - both - is probably the "hardest" part. We have an incantation to make it so.
[06:35] <AnAnt> ok
[06:35] <spm> the subscribers, I'll manually re-add. you're not that big a group
[06:35] <spm> and that way, they'll all get notice of the new list
[06:35] <AnAnt> ok
[06:36] <AnAnt> thanks
[06:36] <spm> np!
[06:36] <AnAnt> ok,  your response got forwarded to the list
[06:37] <spm> cool, any q's that arise from that, just add to that answer/rename request
[06:39] <AnAnt> ok, thanks !
[09:02] <lool> Hey folks, remote bug watches on the GNOME bug tracker don't seem to work well
[09:02] <lool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/332840
[09:02] <lool> The upstream bugs have been updated since a while now and Launchpad didn't pick the updates
[10:20] <cjwatson> adeuring: is bug 336063 something you can look into? the Rosetta guys are sprinting and thus ignoring me, and I think it's kind of urgent
[10:22] <adeuring> cjwatson: I am not familiar with rosetta, but I'll see what I can do
[10:27] <gmb> lool: That sounds like bug 300634 is biting us again. Thanks for letting us know.
[10:27] <adeuring> lool: thanks for the hint! seems to be bug 300634
[10:30] <lool> Thanks
[11:05] <aboSamoor> I have a launchpad personal repo, I was updating from my Laptop. I branched it on my PC and I want to commit, what I have to do ?
[11:13] <aboSamoor> please, can anyone help me ?
[11:14] <adeuring> aboSamoor: "bzr commit; bzr push"
[11:14] <aboSamoor> adeuring: I got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/125697/
[11:15] <adeuring> aboSamoor: Do you have the same SSH keys on your laptop and your desktop machine?
[11:17] <aboSamoor> adeuring: I am new to all control version systems. I did not do anything to my PC other than branch, launchpad-login, commit, and trying now to push
[11:18] <adeuring> aboSamoor: You sent your personal SSH keys from your laptop to Launchpad
[11:18] <adeuring> aboSamoor: Launchpad uses this key when you make an SSH concection to bazaar.lp.net
[11:19] <aboSamoor> adeuring: I think yes. https://launchpad.net/~rmyeid/+sshkeys
[11:19] <adeuring> aboSamoor: OK, you need the same key on your desktop
[11:20] <adeuring> aboSamoor: so, assuming that you donz have a really complex SSH setup, just copy ~/.ssh from your laptop to your desktop
[11:20] <adeuring> aboSamoor: BUT
[11:20] <lool> Wow just got mass spammed by rosetta
[11:21] <lool> Subject: Translation import - Slovenian (sl) - gettext-tools in Ubuntu Jaunty package "gettext"
[11:21] <adeuring> aboSamoor: to be sure, rename the existing directory ~/.ssh on your desktop
[11:21] <lool> I uploaded the gettext package and received 74 emails as a result
[11:21] <adeuring> aboSamoor: so that you have a backup in the case something goes wrong
[11:22] <adeuring> aboSamoor: Technically, it should be enough to copy the files id_rsa, id_rsa.pub resp. id_dsa and id_dsa.pub
[11:22] <aboSamoor> adeuring: Thanks. I will try it now :)
[11:26] <wgrant> lool: The Translations team is conveniently sprinting and ignoring the fact that people like cjwatson have many thousands of useless emails.
[11:26] <adeuring> lool: I tried to give the Rosetta devs a nte, but can't reach them :( They are sprinting..
[11:27] <cjwatson> my personal problem is somewhat independent from lool's
[11:27] <cjwatson> it is the fact that there is an infinite-looping translation import
[13:23] <bigger> hello
[14:38] <andol> From what I can take it this particular build got caught in a build server reinstall. What is the easiest/cleanest way to recover? Delete the entire package and upload a new version, or is there something more creative which can be done?
[14:38] <andol> https://launchpad.net/~andol/+archive/ppa/+build/889636
[14:44]  * al-maisan wonders what "Disabled for Enablement" means..?
[14:44] <al-maisan> https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/fermium
[14:47] <cjwatson> al-maisan: some of the PPA build machines are also used for server hardware enablement testing (i.e. making sure that server hardware works well with current versions of Ubuntu)
[14:47] <cjwatson> andol: do you not have a "retry build" link?
[14:48] <cjwatson> andol: actually, it's marked as "needs building" now, so it should be in the queue to rebuild at some point
[14:48] <cjwatson> I don't think you have to do anything
[14:48] <andol> ok
[14:49] <andol> (no, can't find any "retry build". Of course I didn't sleep anything this night, so it's quite possible I'm missing something really obvious)
[14:52] <adeuring> andol: I asked Celso, he says that th eproblem is now fixed.
[14:52] <andol> Actually, while we were talking the build got built :)
[14:52] <andol> If there were someone who did something, thanks.
[15:02] <cjwatson> andol: indeed, you'd only see "retry build" if it had actually failed I think
[15:22] <c_korn> is lp currently down?
[15:24] <elmo> c_korn: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/launchpad.net
[15:26] <c_korn> elmo: thanks, never heard of that page. no I need to figure out why only lp needs ages to load
[16:43] <fab2> gmb: are you here?
[17:07] <seb128> hi
[17:08] <seb128> is bug watches not updating a known issue?
[17:08] <seb128> or not in reasonable timeframe
[17:08] <james_w> https://launchpad.net/bugs/300634
[17:40] <jkakar> Ursinha: Heya. :)
[17:40] <Ursinha> jkakar, :)
[17:40] <Ursinha> soooo
[17:40] <jkakar> Ursinha: I've wondered before if I there's a way to register projects (for the purposes of registering VCS imports) that doesn't make it seem like I'm the maintainer?
[17:40] <Ursinha> :)
[17:41] <Ursinha> jkakar, I don't know, but I can't think of a way now
[17:41] <jkakar> Ursinha: Okay, so I'm probably not doing anything obviously wrong, then. :)
[17:52] <savvas> jkakar: ask someone from the authors of the program you want to register to register it at launchpad :)
[17:52] <savvas> you are allowed to register them yourself though
[17:52] <savvas> no harm in that :P
[17:53] <beuno> jkakar, it's ok to do that
[17:53] <jkakar> savvas: I wondered about that.  One the one hand, it feels like the polite thing to do.  On the the, it feels like bothering someone just because I want a VCS import.
[17:53] <beuno> if upstream authors want to claim them, we will want to give control to them though
[17:53] <jkakar> beuno: Awesome.
[19:04] <liw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution/+bug/150963 shows the bug as confirmed/unknown in the Evolution project (that's upstream), and Fix released/wishlist on Ubuntu. because of the upstream status, it shows up in the list of bugs related to me.  is there something I can to get it off the list?
[19:55] <gustavonarea> Hello. Somebody filled a ticket for a package I maintain. The ticket is valid but it's totally unreleated to my package. I marked the issue as "invalid" for my package, but I still receive updates for that ticket. How can I get unsubscribed?
[19:55] <gustavonarea> Here's the ticket, just in case: https://bugs.launchpad.net/turbogearshub/+bug/333182
[20:10]  * wgrant didn't expect to see lazr.{publication,canonicalurl} yet...
[20:13] <beuno> wgrant, we like surprising you
[20:22] <wgrant> beuno: I like that sort of surprise.
[20:23] <beuno> wgrant, well, we like you too
[20:23] <beuno> so it works out for everyone
[21:12] <savvas> /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Crypto/Hash/SHA.py:6: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
[21:12] <savvas> I suppose bzr will be updated :)
[21:12] <savvas> woops, wrong channel :P
[21:13] <savvas> #bazaar right?
[21:13] <LarstiQ> #bzr
[21:13] <savvas> thanks
[22:41]  * wgrant WTFs at r7867
[22:41] <wgrant> Why are you implementing a proprietary niceness wrapper around a Free library produced by your own company?
[22:43] <mwhudson> because our uses of storm are not everyones uses of storm
[22:44] <wgrant> But they are also probably not noone's uses of storm.
[22:44] <rockstar> wgrant, how are you seeing those revisions, out of curiosity.
[22:45] <wgrant> rockstar: dev.launchpad.net, the test plans.
[22:46] <wgrant> There's no actual public Launchpad changelog, so one has to read through them to see what you've fixed this month.
[22:46] <jml> wgrant: we had a long chat with the storm guys about it
[22:46] <jml> wgrant: and they said they didn't want it.
[22:47] <wgrant> jml: I see...
[22:47] <jml> wgrant: also, we were behind our Satanic ritual quota for the month
[22:48] <elmo> jml: but, I thought March was the month LP got the "auto-enable your laptop's webcam" feature?
[22:48] <mwhudson> elmo: sssh
[22:48] <wgrant> jml: Indeed, you're going to have to start doing a lot of evil stuff to compensate for LGPL3ing all these bits.
[22:48] <elmo> damn it, -ECHAN
[22:49] <rockstar> elmo, wgrant spies on us, why can't we reciprocate?  :)
[22:49] <mwhudson> "introducing the new, revenue generating, launchpad-blackmail team..."
[22:49]  * wgrant is pleased that his laptop is sufficiently old to not have one :P
[22:58] <marvs> what's lp:project as real url?
[23:04] <mwhudson> mars: it depends!
[23:04] <mwhudson> marvs, rather
[23:05] <thumper> :)
[23:05] <marvs> on what?
[23:06] <thumper> marvs: the branch associated with the product series
[23:07] <marvs> i want the trunk of lp:human-icon-theme
[23:08] <thumper> marvs: then go `bzr branch lp:human-icon-theme`
[23:08] <mwhudson> marvs: alternatively, look at code.launchpad.net/human-icon-theme
[23:08] <mwhudson> it will be the top branch in the listing
[23:08] <thumper> marvs: https://edge.launchpad.net/human-icon-theme/trunk says the associated branch is https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/human-icon-theme/ubuntu
[23:09] <thumper> marvs: which sayts: "Get this branch: bzr branch lp:human-icon-theme"


[13:34] <rick_h_> morning
[14:26] <rick_h_> kadams54: morning, did a QA on your branch and linked some screenshots
[14:26] <kadams54> k
[14:26] <rick_h_> kadams54: be cool if you and hatch could look into it please
[14:29] <kadams54> rick_h_: my understanding is that highlighting a service that's not related to anything should hide everything else.
[14:29] <rick_h_> kadams54: ok, it seemed different
[14:29] <rick_h_> kadams54: so I thought it was odd
[14:30] <rick_h_> kadams54: if that's expected then qa ok
[14:30] <kadams54> Well, QA is not OK :-\
[14:30] <hatch> rick_h_: where there any errors in the console?
[14:30] <kadams54> The behavior in the other screenshots is not good
[14:30] <kadams54> Highlighting should hide everything not directly related
[14:30] <kadams54> Including services that aren't related at all.
[14:31] <kadams54> So I'm investigating that.
[14:31] <kadams54> Getting a real AWS env setup
[14:31] <hatch> kadams54: does lxc not work for you? It's usually way faster than aws :)
[14:32] <kadams54> hatch: I work in OS X, so I'd have to fire up a VM and then run LXC in the VM.
[14:33] <hatch> ohhh
[14:33] <kadams54> I've tried before but stuff like networking setup gets tricky
[14:34] <hatch> I found that running the parallels vm with ubuntu is considerably less buggy than using vagrant
[14:34] <kadams54> vagrant or virtualbox?
[14:34] <hatch> the vagrant bugs are very odd too....like phantomjs crashing with no error
[14:35] <hatch> I didn'tlike virtual box, parallels does a much better job
[14:36] <kadams54> vagrant supports multiple providers, seems like you ought to be able to run it over parallels
[14:37] <hatch> well if you have parallels there isn't much point in running vagrant heh, just run the whole os
[14:37] <kadams54> https://github.com/Parallels/vagrant-parallels
[14:37] <hatch> (although parallels does support vagrant images)
[14:38] <kadams54> I'd much rather use vagrant's stripped down OS and easy provision/reprovision.
[14:38] <hatch> yeah I tried that but I couldn't resolve the bugs
[14:39] <kadams54> rick_h_, hatch: there was a bug fix that had been merged to develop in a separate PR. I've rebased that into this branch.
[14:40] <hatch> cool
[14:49] <hatch> kadams54: I've added a few review comments
[14:51] <rick_h_> kadams54: ok
[14:57] <kadams54> rick_h_: I think the bug fix I merged in addressed the problem you were seeing
[14:57] <kadams54> https://ec2-54-148-167-86.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com/
[15:04] <rick_h_> kadams54: ooh ok cool
[15:05] <hatch> kadams54: so you don't get phantom crashing with no error when running in vagrant?
[15:05] <kadams54> yes, I do
[15:05] <hatch> oh ok good - glad it's not just me heh
[15:05] <hatch> well not good
[15:05] <hatch> but
[15:05] <hatch> you know
[15:05] <hatch> )
[15:05] <hatch> :)
[15:05] <kadams54> I mostly test in browser and use lots of .onlys
[15:06] <hatch> heh painful
[15:06] <hatch> on that front
[15:06] <hatch> jasmine 2.1 will have fit and fdescribe
[15:06] <hatch> which is like only
[15:20] <hatch> rick_h_: kadams54 I filed the agent_state_data bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1393452
[15:20] <mup> Bug #1393452: agent_state_data isn't populated when service units fail on start <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1393452>
[15:21] <kadams54> rick_h_: Looks like I just need your OK on QA to land 658.
[15:21] <rick_h_> kadams54: ok, go ahead. If the bug fixed it then I'll trust that.
[15:22] <rick_h_> kadams54: let me know when that lands and I'll start the release process
[15:23] <kadams54> Will do
[15:23] <kadams54> hatch: thanks for getting that bug files
[15:23] <kadams54> *filed
[15:27] <hatch> it'll probably get marked lower than low since I think we added it in the first place lol
[15:28] <hatch> but at least there is a record somewhere :D
[15:28] <rick_h_> lol
[15:29] <hatch> kadams54: this but in your branch was the second one that had been fixed in develop but not in the branch - maybe we should make a 'rule' to rebase develop in before pushing?
[15:29] <hatch> I never do heh, but it might be a good idea going forward :)
[15:29] <rick_h_> hatch: well the merge thing does that
[15:29] <rick_h_> hatch: it's kind of rare that things are so tied on each other like that
[15:29] <rick_h_> hatch: I think it's just because we're at the release edge
[15:29] <hatch> right - but your qa wouldn't have failed if that had been done
[15:29] <hatch> yeah that's true
[15:29] <rick_h_> hatch: right, but it's ok. The work on that vs the work of always rebase :/
[15:29] <kadams54> Yeah, in this case there was no excuse.
[15:30] <rick_h_> I think it's ok as is, but something I should have kept in mind during QA
[15:30] <kadams54> I did the bug fix branch
[15:30] <kadams54> I did both branches.
[15:30] <kadams54> I should have realized that I needed to rebase one into the other before sending the second off to QA
[15:30] <kadams54> I blame it on being excited and relieved at finally being done :-)
[15:30] <hatch> haha
[15:30] <hatch> we hope ;)
[15:31] <kadams54> Generally I try to sync my develop with remote and rebase onto latest before sending off to QA.
[15:31] <hatch> it is pretty awesome when you hve a large environent
[15:31] <hatch> highlight, fade, highlight, fade
[15:32] <rick_h_> kadams54: :) go enjoy some nice maint cards, no pressure, just little things without big picture pains
[15:32] <kadams54> lol
[15:32] <kadams54> Can't relax yet. The merge build is still in progress.
[15:33]  * rick_h_ is optomistic today
[15:33] <hatch> haha
[15:33] <hatch> it's snowing fluffy snow
[15:34] <hatch> that's a good sign
[15:34] <perrito666> rick_h_: you feel like things can go in eight different ways?
[15:34]  * hatch can read snowflakes
[15:34] <perrito666> rick_h_: ah, no that would be octomistic :p
[15:34] <hatch> lol
[15:34] <rick_h_> hah
[15:34] <perrito666> yours is more like "things can go in a very optical way"
[15:35] <hatch> wouldn't that be opticalistic?
[15:38] <hatch> kadams54: yay tests passed
[15:39] <rick_h_> lol
[15:39] <hatch> kadams54: one good thing came out of your branch - I verified that we can use Array.isArray() in all our supported browsers
[15:39] <hatch> one less YUI method :)
[15:39] <hatch> IE<9 pssshhhhttt
[15:40] <rick_h_> lol
[15:44] <hatch> this weekend I spent some time researching js module systems and loaders.....
[15:44] <hatch> seriously I have no idea what people have been doing since 09
[15:44] <hatch> nothing even comes close to the YUI loader
[15:45] <rick_h_> hatch: :( stop, I'm still trying to get past everyone saying how we don't need YUI any more
[15:45] <hatch> well there are few things in it we 'need' but I honestly can't find anything to replace the loader with
[15:46] <frankban> hatch: never looked at it, but what about require.js?
[15:47] <hatch> frankban: the problem with js module loaders is that they only support one type of module
[15:47] <hatch> AMD, CommonJS etc
[15:47] <hatch> the yui ones we can simply wrap the file in a YUI.add() and be done
[15:48] <hatch> not so with these others
[15:48] <hatch> and ES6 modules don't make it any better
[15:48] <hatch> luca__: hey
[15:49] <luca__> hey hatch
[15:51] <hatch> frankban: although AMD Is the lesser of the 3 evils :)
[15:54] <rick_h_> uiteam call in 7 kanban please
[15:59] <kadams54> rick_h_: 658 just landed so we can proceed with a juju-gui release
[16:00] <rick_h_> kadams54: on it
[16:39] <hatch> kadams54: the card that you're working on right now - we used to set attributes using d3 on the svg and then use the d3 js to alter those attributes to fade in/out
[16:39] <hatch> we should be able to add/remove a class to have it use css animations and be a lot easier
[16:39] <kadams54> Yeah, and you want to switch it to altering classes
[16:40] <kadams54> I remember :-)
[16:40] <hatch> css overrides the attribute styles which were causing issues
[16:40] <hatch> oh ok cool
[16:40] <hatch> I wasn't sure how much I had spewed out before :P
[16:41] <hatch> rick_h_: man I want your job https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/534385415860805633 :P
[16:41] <hatch> lol
[16:42] <hatch> Makyo: so jealous of your yard :)
[16:44] <Makyo> Just a bit of snow :)
[16:44] <Makyo> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tbtjgxek13fdxqs/IMG_20141117_093828.jpg?dl=0
[16:45] <hatch> yeah saw that on the twitters
[16:45] <hatch> james doesn't mind the drive in?
[16:46] <Makyo> Not too much. He's got a nicer car than I do :)
[16:48] <hatch> haha
[16:49] <hatch> I'd love to move out of town but sometimes the highways are a skating rink
[16:50] <Makyo> Yeah, we ran into some of that last week, but thankfully they were on top of getting them plowed.
[16:58] <rick_h_> hatch: see you in standup in 2?
[16:58] <hatch> sounds good
[17:11] <rick_h_> hatch: hah! I want that job :P
[17:11] <hatch> haha
[17:13] <rick_h_> hatch: http://www.kevindangoor.com/2014/11/simplifying-javascript-projects-with-react/ for the 'lunch reading' folder
[17:14] <hatch> cool I'll check it out
[17:14] <hatch> this industry is love hate, love that it's always changing, hate that it's always changing :D
[17:27] <kadams54> Soooooo
[17:27] <kadams54> I just spent my lunch hour on the phone with DISH.
[17:28] <kadams54> Because they signed up a Kathy Adams awhile back and messed up her e-mail address.
[17:28] <kadams54> I ended up getting all her e-mails, including signed copies of her service agreement and other paperwork.
[17:28] <kadams54> Which has home address and phone number on it.
[17:28] <hatch> what's DISH?
[17:28] <rick_h_> hatch: sat. tv
[17:28] <kadams54> Satellite TV
[17:28] <hatch> ohh
[17:28] <hatch> :)
[17:29] <hatch> Just because we don't have enough compile to js languages http://spiderlang.org/
[17:29] <kadams54> DISH's first attempt at a fix was to change e-mail prefs so she (I) didn't receive any more marketing e-mails.
[17:29] <hatch> lol
[17:29] <kadams54> DISH's second attempt was to file a report on my (non-existent) account.
[17:29] <hatch> haha why didn't they just call her?
[17:30] <kadams54> Third attempt I got someone who removed my e-mail from her account, but because they can't make outgoing phone calls, they couldn't get the right address.
[17:30] <kadams54> So I just called her and left her a very odd voicemail.
[17:30] <hatch> rofl
[17:30] <kadams54> Way to go DISH.
[17:30]  * hatch hopes she calls you back and you become best buds
[17:30] <kadams54> She might be related.
[17:31] <kadams54> I grew up in Indiana and have family scattered throughout small towns and farm country
[17:31] <kadams54> She happens to live in a small southern IN town that's close to where one of the family branches settled.
[17:31] <hatch> ohh look at that
[17:32] <kadams54> It's a common enough last name that it's not likely, but it's still kinda funny that she's from Indiana, since DISH is nation-wide in the States.
[17:32] <kadams54> I was actually kinda hoping to talk with her.
[17:33] <kadams54> But her VM was one of the generic "You've reached this phone number" messages that doesn't give away any personal information.
[17:33] <kadams54> Which is kinda funny considering.
[17:34] <hatch> haha
[17:34] <hatch> "we take your privacy very serious...unless we enter in the wrong email address, at which case...well you know"
[17:47] <kadams54> Note to self: make sure e-mail verification is a part of new user/customer sign up in all future endeavors. Gracefully handle failures.
[17:53] <hatch> haha
[18:31] <kadams54> Changing locations, back in 10 or so.
[19:22] <hatch> well there is no question react is scalable now: https://twitter.com/remibecheras/status/534391509190459392 cc rick_h_
[19:46] <hatch> rick_h_: Makyo what's happening with local charm icons with the new api?
[19:47] <hatch> re we still returning the default icon?
[19:47] <rick_h_> hatch: so the deal is we'll use the new api
[19:47] <rick_h_> hatch: and we'll need to filter non-promulgated client side
[19:47] <rick_h_> hatch: but we want a flag that you can turn off in the gui config ui
[19:49] <hatch> right but the charm path is local
[19:49] <hatch> not in the store
[19:50] <rick_h_> hatch: where are we looking?
[19:50] <rick_h_> oh local charm icons
[19:50] <rick_h_> hatch: yea so for now it's still got to be the local one
[19:50] <rick_h_> hatch: we can look to update that once we get things update down the road
[19:52] <hatch> ok sounds good
[19:54] <hatch> rick_h_: this is the bug that is referenced in the code around the local charms https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1202703
[19:54] <mup> Bug #1202703: local charm icons are broken in GUI <charmworld:Triaged> <juju-gui:Fix Released by rharding> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1202703>
[19:55] <hatch> maybe you want to close the charmworld one
[19:55] <hatch> or ammend or something
[19:55] <rick_h_> hatch: oh, those are pulled from the env now
[19:55] <rick_h_> yea, the charmworld one is nadda
[19:55] <rick_h_> ok, done
[19:55] <rick_h_> hatch: that's one case where that's not charmworld but the juju environment
[19:55] <rick_h_> hatch: so watch out for that one
[19:56] <rick_h_> man this added services feature rocks
[19:56] <hatch> yeah right now it's just defaulting to manage.......static/img/charm_160.svg
[19:56] <rick_h_> we need to do a screencast
[19:56] <hatch> so I'll just keep that functionality
[19:56] <rick_h_> hatch: right, that's the default but we added support for pulling it from the env
[19:56] <rick_h_> hatch: ok
[19:57] <hatch> oh did we? Was that ever implemented in the code?
[19:58] <rick_h_> hatch: ye
[19:58] <hatch> hmm odd I don't see that - sec I'll get you the link
[19:58] <hatch> https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/blob/develop/app/store/charmworld.js#L403
[19:58] <hatch> this is called from the handlebars helper
[19:58] <hatch> and others....but similar
[20:00] <hatch> so I'm not sure that it was ever hooked up to go to the env for local charm icons
[20:01] <hatch> at least not here
[20:01] <rick_h_> hatch: I know it works or worked at one point. It's probably from somewhere else though
[20:01] <hatch> ok I'll keep my eyes open but keep this methods functionality the same
[20:01] <rick_h_> hatch: k
[20:02] <hatch> also is ?demo=true supported? I don't see it in the api docs
[20:02] <rick_h_> ugh, we missed a git tag on the last release :(
[20:02] <rick_h_> hatch: no, it never worked
[20:02] <hatch> lol ok
[20:02] <rick_h_> hatch: it was meant to work but never completed, ignore/rip that out
[20:02] <hatch> consider it ripped
[20:05] <hatch> rick_h_: hmm ok so the syntax is now different heh https://api.jujucharms.com/v4/static/img/charm_160.svg is not found
[20:05] <rick_h_> hatch: yea, we'll have to use a local file I think.
[20:05] <rick_h_> in the gui, I think the icon is there.
[20:06] <hatch> oh ok lemme check
[20:06] <hatch> it is
[20:06] <hatch> :)
[20:18] <hatch> rick_h_: bundle icons we are going to use a local file as well?
[20:19] <rick_h_> hatch: yes
[20:26] <rick_h_> uiteam new gui release uploaded, working on charm release now
[20:34] <hatch> awesome
[20:34] <hatch> now the question is - do we have the bundle icon locally
[20:35] <rick_h_> hatch: if not, right-click save as :P
[20:35] <hatch> haha yeah just looking through the assets now
[20:37] <rick_h_> kadams54-away: or hatch can either of you take 5 and get me a few nice small screenshots of the added services bar stuff for a blog post once I ge the charm released and ingested
[20:37] <rick_h_> or any of you want to write up the blog post on the release youselves? I'm not greedy.
[20:37] <hatch> yeah I can do both
[20:38] <hatch> can I do it after this stuff?
[20:38] <rick_h_> hatch: ok, thanks. One thing to remember is the charm has the new custom port as well to mention
[20:38] <hatch> like towards the eod
[20:38] <hatch> yeah definitely
[20:38] <rick_h_> hatch: well I'd like to read it over before release
[20:38] <rick_h_> hatch: so yea, but make sure to hit me up then before you hit publish?
[20:38] <hatch> ok sounds good - I just need to grab some lunch soon :)
[20:38] <rick_h_> and I'll try to look after hours tonight
[20:38] <rick_h_> hatch: ok
[20:38] <rick_h_> ty kind sir
[20:39] <rick_h_> https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/blob/develop/CHANGES.yaml#L24 changes
[20:48]  * hatch lunching
[21:36]  * rick_h_ grumbles about failing charm tests
[21:48] <hatch> boo
[21:49] <rick_h_> it works when I make deploy though wtf
[22:03] <huwshimi> Morning
[22:06] <hatch> morning huw
[22:59] <hatch> heh I just broke this code and all the tests pass
[22:59] <hatch> sumfing wong
[23:00] <hatch> gona eod, will bbl
[23:04] <rick_h_> hatch: night
[23:47] <kadams54> rick_h_: how's the release going?
[23:48] <rick_h_> kadams sent an email to tge list with status
[23:48] <rick_h_> basically stuck and eod'ing
[23:48] <rick_h_> monday is my night with thge boy
[23:49] <kadams54> +1


[09:04] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:04] <christel> good morning brobostigon :)
[09:04] <christel> are you well?
[09:05] <brobostigon> good morning christel :), i could be better, my partner has been in hospital ill for the last month, and you?
[09:10] <christel> auchies, i am sorry to hear she is still not well enough to come out, must be stressful for you both -- especially as you no doubt want to share the joys of pregnancy together
[09:10] <christel> i am not too shabby, tired but well :)
[09:11] <brobostigon> yes, its very worrying.
[09:11] <brobostigon> :)
[09:13] <christel> i can imagine! is she holding up ok?
[09:14] <brobostigon> it probably will be a while untill her bipolar settles down and she is well enough to come out, last time she was unwell she was in for about 5 months. when i spoke to her doctors earlier this week, she was bouncing up and down like a yoyo.
[09:16]  * christel nods
[09:16] <christel> i guess it is difficult for them to get the medication right while she is also having all the hormonal effects of pregnancy messing all the chemical stuff up
[09:16] <brobostigon> hopefully once her hormones settle down, that will help, then just a task of getitng her bipolar striaghtend out.
[09:17] <brobostigon> yes, and there are certain medications they cant use while she is pregnant.
[09:17] <christel> *nod*
[10:28] <SuperEngineer> Recipe: 1/ stuff a couple of onions and garlic up a [dead] chicken's jacksie.
[10:28] <SuperEngineer> "/ Sprinkle with salt, ground pepper.  Smother with home grown thyme.
[10:29] <SuperEngineer> Method: cook the darn thing before eating!
[10:30] <SuperEngineer> [you know... much like a development life cycle]
[10:40] <zmoylan-pi> recipie 0:take a dead chicken and apply fire...
[10:45] <SuperEngineer> hmmm - rather like an phone app developer's method, isn't it?
[10:47] <zmoylan-pi> i thought that was more 1) bang rocks together and make fire.... :-)
[10:50] <zmoylan-pi> or would that better describe assembly programming...
[10:52] <SuperEngineer> zmoylan-pi: that made I laugh!!!
[10:55] <zmoylan-pi> it was a joke in my old place that some languages were so elementary that to get anything done in them you had to build from the ground up, start building basic functions, put together a few libraries.  could take ages.  so it became. bang rocks together and make fire.
[10:56] <zmoylan-pi> the current popular term is yak shaving i suppose
[11:02] <SuperEngineer> :-)
[12:38] <DJones> Hmmh, is it a bad sign when you get up after a night out and your wife says "where did I take my clothes off last night"
[12:40] <MartijnVdS> depends on the answer to that question I think
[12:41] <DJones> Thankfully it was at home and she wasn't drunk, just couldn't remember
[12:42] <DJones> Could have been embarasing if she'd done it earlier since her Dad was bring us home
[12:56] <zmoylan-pi> it's a good night if you need to start fishing them off the ceiling fan... :-P
[13:44] <daftykins> DJones: sounds like you had a youthful re-enactment ;)
[15:35] <daftykins> oof poor French gymnast chap with the broken leg on landing
[15:36] <diddledan> :-(
[15:36] <diddledan> don't try that at home
[15:37] <daftykins> i couldn't, the horse won't stand still
[17:12] <diddledan> good news everyone! I've signed you all up to the Donald Trump mailing list.
[17:13] <diddledan> no, wait, I mean my RAMs are coming back tomorrow!
[17:13]  * diddledan misses working on "teh beast"
[17:13] <diddledan> how many people do call their desktop a variant of "beast" I wonder
[17:16] <Nokaji> ubuntu offered me an upgrade (finally) to v16.04 (was 14.04) - all seems well and functioning smoothly except Nautilus; when I open a Nautilus window w/ a tab or more, the window auto closes, typically within minutes. Actually, seems it is called "Files 3.14.3" i this version, maybe that is a clue.
[17:24] <diddledan> daftykins: first thing I'm gonna do when I get the ram replacement is to run a proper memtest rather than just hoping
[21:14] <diddledan> FUDGE
[21:14] <diddledan> err caps
[21:15] <diddledan> just spend an hour or so messing with hardware, getting my finger all cut to shreds, and I power-up the machine to find I used the wrong mobo - doesn't support ECC for my memory where the other board does. I don't know if I can be bothered yanking it all out again now
[21:15] <zmoylan-pi> liquorice
[21:16] <diddledan> in fact the sun was still visible when I started so it's been several hours
[21:17] <zmoylan-pi> and you can't blame anyone but yourself...
[21:17] <diddledan> I could blame God
[21:17] <diddledan> he should have warned me
[21:17] <zmoylan-pi> might as well blame santa and the tooth fairy...
[21:18] <diddledan> I feel this relationship with $deity is a tag unfairly one-sided
[21:18] <diddledan> tad*
[21:18] <zmoylan-pi> that's why you deal with thor... it's hit by lightning or it isn't...
[21:18] <diddledan> I like thor
[21:19] <zmoylan-pi> simple binary god
[21:19] <diddledan> chris hemsworth is good looking even to a straight man
[21:22] <diddledan> wonder when the next season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is on
[21:24] <diddledan> september 20 in the US. day-after for us?
[22:18] <daftykins> diddledan: answer: a horrifying number for 'best' variants :P also yep can't concur more on a full memtest pass (or 2) before considering it good


[00:08] <vorian> who let the dogs out
[00:58] <valorie> looking over tonight's sched, I see no Kub. sessions
[00:58] <valorie> is this because udslogger is leaving the event early?
[00:59]  * valorie is listening to past sessions
[00:59] <DarkwingDuck> Only thing I'm doing at UDS today is the closing speech
[00:59] <DarkwingDuck> Tomorrow morning.
[00:59] <DarkwingDuck> I have LOADS to digest and get in a plan
[01:00] <valorie> well, I always like the community roundtable
[01:00] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[01:00] <DarkwingDuck> I'm just not going to stay up tonight. I have stuff I have to take care of tomorrow morning.
[01:01] <DarkwingDuck> I need to sleep tonight.
[01:01] <valorie> if there are no kub sessions, I'm sleeping too
[01:01] <DarkwingDuck> LD
[01:01] <DarkwingDuck> XD
[01:01] <valorie> this has been difficult
[01:01] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah it has.
[01:01] <DarkwingDuck> I need to talk to Harald at some point though
[01:03] <DarkwingDuck> I want to watch/listen to the closing remarks and find out when/where UDS-P will be
[01:03] <valorie> Orlando, I believe
[01:03] <DarkwingDuck> I think so too.
[01:03] <DarkwingDuck> Same place and I'll be there. :D
[01:04] <valorie> oh, there is a Kwin and OpenGL session
[01:04] <DarkwingDuck> I listen to the recording.
[01:04] <DarkwingDuck> I made all the sessions I wanted to get to.
[01:05] <valorie> oh, and Remove HAL from archives
[01:05] <valorie> sucks that people aren't able to use their USB devices correctly
[01:05] <valorie> not staying up for it though
[01:07] <valorie> Kubuntu LightDM?
[01:07] <valorie> I was just reading about lightDM on the kdeplanet
[01:07] <valorie> and it didn't sound so good
[02:58] <claydoh> ScottK: very belated pong: i will post on kfn about the elections
[02:59] <claydoh> ScottK: should I direct folks to the kubuntu-devel list as in the announcement?
[03:07] <claydoh> ScottK: topic in  #kubuntu edited, kubuntuforums posted as well
[03:08] <claydoh> hope everyone is having a blast at uds!!!
[03:33] <DarkwingDuck> claydoh: I wish I was there.
[03:59] <ScottK> claydoh: Thanks.
[04:00] <ScottK> valorie: There is a spec for hal removal.
[04:00] <ScottK> valorie: afiestas has reviewed the light dm code and says it's pretty good.  We'll discuss.
[04:03] <valorie> cool
[04:03] <valorie> I'll listen and learn
[07:38] <Quintasan> udslogger: ping
[07:38] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: ping
[07:38] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: pong
[07:38] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: are you after breakfast?
[07:38] <JontheEchidna> yus
[07:38] <JontheEchidna> in the non-smoking lobby behind a pillar
[07:38] <Quintasan> Oh, cool, I assume we don't have session in the morning?
[07:39] <JontheEchidna> not the first session, no
[07:40] <JontheEchidna> There is KWin and OpenGL ES later
[07:40] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: behold, I'm coming over there then
[08:22] <abkde> any rekonq developer here?
[08:26] <valorie> abkde: you might find them in #rekonq , or #kde-devel
[08:26] <abkde> valorie, oh, thanks
[08:27] <valorie> lots of our devels are at UDS right now
[08:27] <valorie> and it's the final day of sessions
[08:28] <valorie> so you might have much better luck upstream
[08:28] <abkde> valorie, isn't here #kde-devel?
[08:28] <valorie> no, this is kubuntu-devel
[08:28] <valorie> for kubuntu development issues
[08:28] <abkde> yeah, you're right
[08:28] <valorie> most applications are developed in KDE itself
[08:28] <abkde> my fault
[08:28] <valorie> and you'll find lots of overlap, of course
[08:30] <abkde> I'll try #rekonq for now...
[08:32] <valorie> good luck!
[09:51] <Quintasan> \o/
[10:45] <jtechidna> Quintasan: text apachelogger and tell him that I'll be going in a bit and he needs to get his stuff from the table
[10:46] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: done
[10:46] <JontheEchidna> thx
[10:46] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: you're heading for airport in 15 minutes?
[10:46] <JontheEchidna> yes
[10:46] <Quintasan> cool, will meet you at lobby
[10:46] <JontheEchidna> I'm right next to the stairs in the smoking lobby
[10:47] <Quintasan> coming
[11:25] <jussi> Quintasan: ping
[12:42] <Quintasan> jussi: pong
[12:56] <jussi> lol, a bit delayed there :P
[13:38] <ScottK> Quintasan: Are you online.
[13:39] <ScottK> jussi: Are you online?
[13:39] <jussi> yes
[13:39] <ScottK> Is afiestas with you by chance?
[13:39] <jussi> no
[13:39] <ScottK> If anyone sees afiestas, ask him to find me please.
[13:49] <Quintasan> ScottK: afiestas is giving lightning talk right now
[13:50] <Quintasan> oh god I'm last in queue and it's almost over -_-
[13:50] <Quintasan> udslogger: no talk :/
[13:51] <ScottK> Nevermind.  I found him.
[13:53] <ScottK> Quintasan: I see.  Thanks.
[13:53] <ScottK> see/saw
[14:12] <udslogger> ScottK: I found your alex, come pick him up in room 20 kond
[14:13] <ScottK> Thanks.  After this session.
[15:06] <shadeslayer> !find EvolutionCalendarSource.h
[15:07] <shadeslayer> bleh
[15:24] <dpm> Quintasan, I'm looking at what you mentioned to me re: Polish translation team membership. I can't see you in here though: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-pl/+members I thought you were already a member and your membership needed to be re-approved?
[15:26] <Quintasan> dpm: My membership already expired :)
[15:27] <dpm> Quintasan, yeah, but you should be listed under "Former members", that's what surprised me. But anyway, I've got all the info, I'll now try to contact TomaszD
[15:29] <Quintasan> hmm
[15:29] <Quintasan> dpm: cool, thanks
[15:45] <dpm> Quintasan, ok, just e-mailed the team owner. Could you apply for joining the team in Launchpad, so that he can more easily approve you?
[15:46] <Quintasan> yup
[15:47] <Quintasan> dpm: well, it's Restricted Team, I need to have Tomasz to invite me to the team :)
[15:49] <dpm> Quintasan, hm, yeah, good point, I've just noticed that. Ok, let's wait to see whether he can send a reply. I'll follow this up
[15:49] <Quintasan> dpm: Thanks once more :)
[15:50] <dpm> no worries :)
[16:17] <arpan> j
[16:53] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: did you give a lightning talk?
[16:57] <bambee> hi
[17:36] <udslogger> good nite
[17:37] <shadeslayer> udslogger: WHAT!!! it's just 7:30 over there
[17:37] <shadeslayer> how can you sleep so early!!!!
[20:09] <eMyller> hi fellows
[20:10] <eMyller> anyone here using natty on a intel based chipset?
[20:10] <eMyller> please tell me about your experience.
[20:37] <maco> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-world-map.html Kubuntustan is rather far from the KDE Sea
[20:42] <neversfelde> :)
[20:42] <Tm_T> eMyller: I am at work, all works rather fine
[20:43] <DarkwingDuck> What's up guys?
[20:44] <yofel> eMyller: define chipset, my motherboar chipset works fine, the intel graphics in my netbook doesn't like natty
[20:44] <yofel> hey DarkwingDuck
[20:45] <DarkwingDuck> Hows life?
[20:45]  * DarkwingDuck is getting his wiki ready
[20:45] <yofel> debugging neon :/
[20:45] <DarkwingDuck> Oh joy
[20:46] <DarkwingDuck> I'm about to start putting together my lists of todos for oneiric
[20:47] <jjesse> hiya DarkwingDuck
[20:48] <DarkwingDuck> Hey jjesse
[20:48] <DarkwingDuck> I have lists and lists of Todo stuff for us jjesse
[20:48] <jjesse> yay
[20:48] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: How much time are you going to have between now and OCtorber?
[20:48] <DarkwingDuck> *October
[20:48] <jjesse> depends
[20:49] <jjesse> on the day/week/etc
[20:49] <jjesse> srsly have no idea what now and october will look like
[20:49] <DarkwingDuck> Okay
[20:49] <DarkwingDuck> Let me know if you get bogged down.


[00:50] <ceed^> Hi, after the latest update this evening wi-fi stopped working. It's grayed out. I can still connect over ethernet. What could be wrong?
[00:58] <ceed^> When I do "rfkill list" I'm told that wifi is hard bloced and I can not unblock it
[06:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:46] <randomrandom123> can someone tell me, why ubuntu 15.04 boots to mobile ui on a touch screen desktop? and how to fix it?
[11:14] <BluesKaj> HI all
[12:38] <lordievader> !schedule
[16:10] <Anonymauz> how to install bumblebee on 15.04 ? my X server doesn't start after reboot. My method works fine with 14.10 tho!
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: bumblebee is outdated, use nvidia-prime
[16:11] <Anonymauz> why outdated? not supported with systemd or what?
[16:12] <Anonymauz> nvidia prime gives same result tho
[16:12] <k1l> installing the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repo will bring nvidia-prime
[16:12] <Anonymauz> isn't it proprietary? i mean nvidia-prime
[16:12] <Anonymauz> well
[16:12] <k1l> Anonymauz: bumblebee was the workaround until prime was released by nvidia
[16:12] <k1l> so try the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repo
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> k1l: wanna join #ubuntu-discuss?
[16:13] <Anonymauz> i opened driver updates application once i installed ubuntu, i pressed INSTALL opposit the "recommended" tip. After that X doesn't start too x|
[16:13] <Anonymauz> i must be loser of the world, what i am doing wrong
[16:13] <Anonymauz> what i should install? i have 2 videocards, just reminding.
[16:13] <k1l> hey lotuspsychje. i dont take part in -discuss or -offtopic these days. maybe in some future, thanks
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> k1l: ok mate no sweat :p
[16:14] <Anonymauz> u say nvidia driver. u mean nvidia 346.59?
[16:14] <k1l> Anonymauz: there are some different drivers. depends on your exact hardware what to use best
[16:15] <Anonymauz> i checked out nvidia website. it says last version for my hardware is nvidia346.59
[16:15] <Anonymauz> so that i should apt-get intall nvidia-346?
[16:15] <Anonymauz> or nvidia-346 nvidia-settings nvidia-prime whatever... just sure my x won't start again
[16:16] <k1l> lspci gives what?
[16:16] <Anonymauz> or i should only apt-get install nvidi
[16:16] <Anonymauz> lspci | grep VGA
[16:16] <Anonymauz> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[16:17] <Anonymauz> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 650M] (rev a1)
[16:18] <Anonymauz> so what
[16:18] <Anonymauz> can you give a tip how to deal with all that?
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: did you install ubuntu with internet+updates enabled during setup?
[16:19] <Anonymauz> i am 80% sure i toggled that box
[16:20] <Anonymauz> i am fucked up :O
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: dont loose hope too soon
[16:21] <Anonymauz> i tried three different ways, neither of them worked.
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: try another driver from your additional driver list
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> and install nvidia-prime
[16:22] <Anonymauz> http://imgur.com/nH3DN7l i got this
[16:22] <Anonymauz> in driver manager
[16:22] <Anonymauz> install it manually, right?
[16:22] <Anonymauz> well, it may work. cuz i did nvidia driver install from application and nvidia prime installation separately.
[16:23] <Anonymauz> first driver, then prime, then reboot. right?
[16:23] <Anonymauz> i need nvidia-settings btw?
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: just try prime first and reboot
[16:24] <Anonymauz> okay right, thanks for tip
[16:24] <Anonymauz> how to test it btw?
[16:24] <Anonymauz> if it works i mean
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: what makes your grafix work best
[16:25] <Anonymauz> how to backup? purge nvidia-*?
[16:26] <Anonymauz> cuz it's only laptop xD
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: dont purge drivers, just switch from additional drivers
[16:26] <Anonymauz> mkay, rebooting..
[16:29] <Anonymauz> rebooted. no nvidia settings app tho..
[16:30] <Anonymauz> how to switch
[16:31] <Anonymauz> tried prime-select nvidia
[16:31] <Anonymauz> says
[16:31] <Anonymauz> Error: the installed packages do not support PRIME
[16:31] <Anonymauz> Error: nvidia mode can't be enabled
[16:37] <Anonymauz> i ll try install driver from app again..
[16:44] <Anonymauz> Well. X didn't start
[16:44] <Anonymauz> Prime says nvidia is current card
[16:45] <Anonymauz> That sucks so much..
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-current
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: did you remember wich driver worked on your 14.10?
[16:47] <Anonymauz> 304 kek
[16:48] <BluesKaj> Anonymauz, run dkms status
[16:48] <Anonymauz> How to restore my pc now
[16:48] <Anonymauz> Runned
[16:48] <Anonymauz> I am from android so i can make typo
[16:48] <BluesKaj> pastebin the output please
[16:48] <Anonymauz> Bbswitch installed
[16:49] <Anonymauz> Nvidia-346 too
[16:49] <Anonymauz> So does vboxhost
[16:51] <Anonymauz> How to restore? Aptget remove nvidia-346?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> 346 is too experimental for most cards, the 340 driver should be the correct driver for most nvidias
[16:52] <Anonymauz> So i remove 346 and apt install 340?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> Anonymauz, yes
[16:52] <Anonymauz> Should i delete xorgconf before it?
[16:53] <Anonymauz> Or rename whatever.  If that can matter ofc..
[17:05] <Anonymauz> Well, 340 giefs blackscreen
[17:06] <Anonymauz> If i startx, i get errorz
[17:06] <k1l> dont use startx
[17:06] <k1l> start the lightdm, or the other thingy that kde uses now
[17:07] <k1l> did you install the bumbelbee stuff again?
[17:07] <Anonymauz> Btw if i run dkms status it says not nvidia installed but added
[17:07] <Anonymauz> Weird
[17:07] <k1l> does your video card require nomodeset?
[17:07] <k1l> does it load the nvidia module?
[17:07] <Anonymauz> Nvidia-340.76:added
[17:08] <Anonymauz> What you meaN 'it'
[17:09] <k1l> your system?
[17:09] <Anonymauz> Kubuntu 15.04
[17:09] <k1l> several possible issue mentioned now. so go on the hunt :)
[17:10] <Anonymauz> Why its Added?
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: you also might wanna press F1 at boot to see where it stucks
[17:10] <Anonymauz> I inst
[17:11] <Anonymauz> Ok 1 sec
[17:11] <k1l> Anonymauz: what are you talking about?
[17:12] <Anonymauz> F1 remove splash screen? Or safe mod
[17:12] <Anonymauz> Cuz this fucker just loaded!
[17:14] <Anonymauz> Opened app
[17:14] <Anonymauz> It says nvidia is on. Gonna test it
[17:17] <Anonymauz> Can i install glxgears mesautils or that will fuck up nvidia prime?
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: plz keep the channel family friendly
[17:17] <Anonymauz> Sorry i apologize.
[17:22] <anonymauzz> my wine doesn't work now with new driver, how that could be?
[17:24] <anonymauzz> seems like my opengl's gone. well, gonna solve it on my own :> thanx for help guys, i owe you very much
[17:30] <Anonymauz> If glxgears giefs 60 fps - that should be nvidia right?
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: sudo lshw -C video and check after driver= wich driver loaded
[17:33] <Anonymauz> Nvm found wow, ran it on wine, driver works perfect
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> Anonymauz: so can you tell us how you fixxed it now
[17:34] <Anonymauz> But your command says intel tho.. Interesting
[17:35] <Anonymauz> I installed 340, it didnt load
[17:36] <Anonymauz> But after few reboots it did somehow
[17:36] <Anonymauz> So i don't know is that fix
[17:39] <Anonymauz> Now it switches to intel automatically xD
[17:42] <Anonymauz> Maybe i ll try lower driver
[17:56] <Anonymauz> Now driver manager giefs nothing. Weird too
[17:58] <Anonymauz> Tried install 331.. Badumtssss kernel 4 not supported
[18:11] <Anonymauz> Why it says driver in use nouveau if i removed it?
[18:12] <k1l> because it couldnt load the nvidia one and will fall back to nouveau.
[18:12] <Anonymauz> Thx
[21:45] <rektide> i have a recent (week old?) nightly. when i ssh into it, i don't have hardly a thing. chiefly, i'd really really really like a dbus user session.
[21:46] <rektide> i tried copying units from https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User#D-Bus in hopes of having a socket activated bus, but i still don't see anything show up in my envs if i ssh in (after adding those units, rebooting, and ssh'ing in)
[21:46] <holstein> you are ssh'ing into a live box?
[21:46] <holstein> you should be able to install what you want, but, i would expect limiatations..
[21:47] <rektide> i am ssh'ing into my workstation, and i would like access to a dbus-session of any kind when i ssh in. i use git-credential-gnome-keyring extensively, and i need to be able to use that while ssh'ing in.
[21:48] <holstein> rektide: your workstation will have whatever it has, if the live iso is the "client".. it'll just be connecting via ssh
[21:48] <rektide> holstein: fine whatever sure yes of course. how do i use systemd to get a dbus session for my users?
[21:48] <rektide> please help
[21:49] <holstein> rektide: sure.. and now that you are not referencing the nightly live iso, but, your workstation OS, you can look at what is needed on your server-side on your workstation to facilitate your needs
[21:50] <rektide> my workstation is a week old vivid
[21:50] <holstein> rektide: what are you trying to accomplish? more of a remote desktop connection?
[21:50] <holstein> rektide: sure, you are ssh-ing into 15.04, as well.. i understand.. what are you trying to do there via ssh?
[21:50] <rektide> git push.
[21:51] <rektide> which relies on git-credential-gnome-keyring. which relies on dbus.
[21:51] <holstein> rektide: sure.. you would just connect via ssh, and do whatever you do via git
[21:51] <holstein> rektide: if its a "normal" desktop install, with a GUI, you'll have, or have access to add what you need easily
[21:52] <rektide> i guess i need to reiterate this for the third time?
[21:52] <holstein> rektide: i would personally seperate these issues out.. i would see that i can do what i want to do from the workstation via GIT, then, work on doing that from the workstation in the terminal, *then* just connect via ssh and do the exact same thing
[21:53] <holstein> rektide: you can answer this, friend.. can you git push in the terminal on your workstation? yes or no? if no, then, you are not going to be able to do that via ssh, when connected from another machine
[21:53] <rektide> i can use git just fine from a gui session on the workstation
[21:53] <rektide> yes
[21:53] <holstein> so, you can address being able to git push from terminal on that workstation
[21:53] <holstein> rektide: sure. *not* from the GUI. otherwise, connect with a remote desktop solution, and GIT push in the GUI that works on the workstation
[21:54] <holstein> when you can git push from the terminal, then, you will easily be able to do that via ssh
[21:54] <holstein> i would reference any commandline specific information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git
[21:56] <rektide> how do i get to a virtual-terminal term? control-alt-f1 &c isn't switching me to a term
[21:56] <rektide> this is not X behavior i'm familiar with
[21:57] <holstein> !tty
[21:57] <holstein> though, i have had issues with that in the past with one particular GPU..
[21:57] <holstein> you can just use *any* terminal emulator, though, in whatever 15.04 version you are running.. gnome-terminal or terminator..
[21:58] <rektide> if type 'env|grep DBUS' in a terminal inside the gui, I get a result
[21:58] <rektide> if i type the same ssh'ed in, i get nothing
[21:58] <rektide> that's the root of what dogs me right now
[21:58] <holstein> rektide: sounds like your users have different permissions
[21:58] <rektide> i thought you were asking me to do the same from a console vterm. which i can't seem to get to, in spite of following !tty directions
[21:58] <rektide> it's the same user
[21:58] <rektide> it's how you've setup systemd
[21:59] <rektide> it's ubuntu not me
[21:59] <holstein> rektide: though, as is suggested, *dont* ssh in.. just do a git push from the local machine in the terminal..
[21:59] <rektide> do this with a bonestock ubuntu and you will certainly see the same thing
[21:59] <rektide> it works
[21:59] <rektide> i can git push from Terminal
[21:59] <holstein> rektide: above, you stated you did it in the GUI, not the terminal
[21:59] <k1l> rektide: i think you might need to file a bug and see what the devs think about it
[21:59] <holstein> !bug
[21:59] <rektide> by gui, i meant a Terminal in the gui
[22:00] <holstein> rektide: id be glad to confirm the behavior, as i am in 15.04 right now
[22:01] <holstein> when you are ssh'd in, you will have "limitations" based on your ssh config file, but, if you are the same user, you should have the same setup..
[22:02] <rektide> Ubuntu still relies on an archaic /etc/X11/Xsession.d/75dbus_dbus-launch to commence dbus
[22:03] <holstein> i know, patches are usually welcome upstream
[22:03] <rektide> if you can help me fix the fact that my<EMAIL_ADDRESS>that i linked to when i first posted doesnt work
[22:03] <rektide> i'll gladly submit
[22:03] <holstein> you should be able to do the same as you do via ssh as you do locally.. if not, then why? that would be my question
[22:04] <rektide> i see the socket activated dbus session , and i can use it, it just doesn't show up in my env
[22:04] <holstein> rektide: you are saying, that works, when you are local to the machine, just not via ssh as the same user, correct?
[22:05] <rektide> holstein: i just told you why not. do you want me to explain to you what /etc/X11/Xsession.d/75dbus_dbus-launch is for, what it does, and why it means my env doesn't have dbus when i ssh in in a much longer form to you?
[22:05] <rektide> i'm happy to explain these mechanism if you don't get them
[22:06] <holstein> rektide: good luck, friend.. if it were me, i would try and replicate this behavior on a supported 14.04 or 14.10 version, from a live iso, and file a bug, regardless
[22:08] <rektide> those aren't systemd
[22:08] <rektide> i'm not interested in the old world
[22:08] <holstein> cheers, and i hope you can find someone to help you.. with 14.04, you can broaden your scope of assistance to the #ubuntu channel.. or a server channel.. i personally can do all i do from the ssh session as a local user, but, if you want to start and link a bug report, id be glad to confirm a bug
[22:08] <rektide> cheers, thanks