[12:00] <Kijutsu> Doesn't do DVDs does it?
[12:01] <azcazandco> so I figured I could reshuffle my os's by doing the following: 1) install win2k for gaming on hda1 2) install a new dapper on sda 3) copy firefox stuff and thunderbird stuff + files from old install on sdb and hopefully have a fresh system to work with
[12:01] <Kijutsu> mat1, i've used three different distros now, and they all have the annoying half-screen blue vertical bar during DVD playback.
[12:01] <azcazandco> gnomefreak: does that sound like a bad way to do things?
[12:02] <Ge33k> hi
[12:02] <stalefries> azcazandco: look into Google's Browser Sync extension
[12:02] <gnomefreak> azcazandco: it a way. i cant say good or bad but if you dont know what causes it than your avoiding it not fixing it and can happen again
[12:02] <confusco> anybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows
[12:02] <stalefries> !hi | Ge33k
[12:02] <ubotu> Ge33k: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:02] <stalefries> :)
[12:02] <Ge33k> :)
[12:02] <azcazandco> gnomefreak: I did go kinda crazy messing with things
[12:03] <azcazandco> so if I was to try and debug things with my install where would I start?
[12:03] <azcazandco> I would be happy to just get this one working
[12:03] <azcazandco> currently running a web updated dapper to edgy
[12:03] <gnomefreak> azcazandco: get rid of any xgl/compiz/beryl packages that you installed
[12:03] <azcazandco> gnome runs fine but no 3d
[12:04] <mattt_> anyone find firefox on 6.10 to be highly unstable?
[12:04] <azcazandco> gnomefreak: how?
[12:04] <mattt_> maybe it's just ppc
[12:04] <skizm> it seems to work okay for me, i haven't tested it a lot but it hasn't crashed or anything
[12:04] <sgirc> hi all
[12:04] <azcazandco> i would rather fix it than migrate
[12:04] <mattt_> skizm: mine crashes all the time, when i'm doing the most arbitrary things
[12:04] <gnomefreak> azcazandco: sudo apt-get remove --purge  and list the packages you installed for xgl/comp/beryl
[12:05] <pyro> hi guys
[12:05] <gnomefreak> azcazandco: hint look at the guide you used to install it
[12:05] <azcazandco> gnomefreak: I followed tutorials and copied pasted, couldnt even name the tutorials
[12:05] <grimboy> Is pcf font support being deprecated in ubuntu because it seems pretty dire.
[12:05] <azcazandco> was a while ago now
[12:05] <grimboy> ?
[12:05] <azcazandco> gnome runs fine and I can do all my dev work
[12:05] <azcazandco> but I just know deep down I broke something
[12:06] <azcazandco> was gonna try and start from scratch and be careful
[12:06] <grimboy> azcazandco, Ooh, I hate that feeling, slightly sickening.
[12:06] <gnomefreak> azcazandco: might be better off your way than because you need to know what scripts you made what you added to scripts already there packages you installed and so on
[12:06] <azcazandco> get things working then stop messing
[12:06] <LaserLine> Anybody know how I can fix my webcam.  It worked fine under dapper, but I did a fresh install of Edgy and all i see is a grey screen now.  The light is on and everything and the mic works fine with it.  It's a Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000
[12:06] <azcazandco> gnomefreak: I am a little concerned about the migration
[12:07] <grimboy> Heh!
[12:07] <azcazandco> but I am willing to give it a go which is why i was starting with a win2k on it's own partition
[12:07] <gnomefreak> azcazandco: if your using apt its gonna break
[12:07] <bhudda> what does this mean? "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0".
[12:07] <bhudda> "
[12:07] <Ge33k> i install php5 then i write in the shell " php " out >  bash: php: command not found ?? why
[12:07] <grimboy> (I think I broke punctuation)
[12:07] <gnomefreak> bhudda: ati?
[12:07] <azcazandco> I used apt following commands
[12:07] <sgirc> i have a problem when setting my connection to my ISP I have an usb modem with adslwhen I pppd i get this eror LCP: Timeout sending Config-Requests
[12:07] <bhudda> gnomefreak affirmative
[12:07] <azcazandco> not really following what I was doing
[12:07] <VigoFusion> :)
[12:08] <Hazart> G33k install php5-cli
[12:08] <gnomefreak> bhudda: its a known issue i dont think its been fixed yet or if we can even fix it
[12:08] <bhudda> Blast!
[12:08] <Ge33k> how ?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> azcazandco: was one of them sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:08] <bhudda> I spent that many hours messing with wine, and get that result. That absolutely is horrid
[12:08] <gnomefreak> azcazandco: or did you gksudo update-manager -c?
[12:08] <Hazart> Ge33k: apt-get install php5-cli
[12:08] <Lobo_> hi
[12:08] <Ge33k> good
[12:09] <azcazandco> gnomefreak: probably at some point
[12:09] <Ge33k> i now install it :)
[12:09] <azcazandco> have definitely done sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:09] <gnomefreak> azcazandco: i mean to upgrade from dapper to edgy
[12:09] <azcazandco> yes
[12:09] <gnomefreak> or did you not do that
[12:09] <azcazandco> I run edgy now
[12:09] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:09] <azcazandco> but did the dist update
[12:09] <Lobo_> in xorg.conf, is horizsync "31.5 - 100" valid ? or should i put 31 or 32 or 31,5 ?
[12:10] <Kingsqueak> Lobo_: depends on your monitor specs
[12:10] <iratik_> I've plugged a USB external media drive , ubuntu edgy recognized it - however, its in the file system as "/media/Mass storage" is there any way to name it something without a space in it?
[12:10] <azcazandco> I wanna go back to dapper and treat it with respect
[12:10] <bhudda> Why!! Oh what a cruel world we live in...hey gnomefreak, has there been anything written on this issue?
[12:10] <azcazandco> I want4ed to try 64bit but decided I just need to go dapper 32 till I understand things a bit better
[12:10] <gnomefreak> bhudda: i dont remember
[12:10] <Ge33k> thnnnx more , now it's work good Hazart
[12:10] <bhudda> dang
[12:10] <azcazandco> been running ubuntu for about 5mths now and love it
[12:11] <Hazart> Ge33k: No problem
[12:11] <azcazandco> just have *glitches* I want to resolve
[12:11] <Lobo_> Kingsqueak, it's a videoprojector, its caracteristics are 31.5 - 100, is a dot valid in horizsync ?
[12:11] <azcazandco> or a start from scratch with a win2k for gaming
[12:11] <bhudda> azcazandco been a few days for me, and I love it too! 6.10 was a breeze to install, and the community here is so willing to help
[12:11] <F28> Wheres a good place to get software for Ubuntu?
[12:11] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell f28 about software | f28, you have a private message from Ubotu
[12:11] <azcazandco> bhudda: is good ;-)
[12:12] <azcazandco> gnomefreak: back to my 1, 2 ,3 ... is that the order I should do things?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:12] <Lobo_> does anyone know if a dot is valid in xorg.conf/horizsync ?
[12:13] <azcazandco> I basically have ubuntu on a 200gb sata drive, have one spare for my new install, I then have 2 x 250 gb ide drives
[12:13] <iratik_> Perhaps if I rephrase. The auto mounting in Ubuntu Edgy automatically names a certain external drive as "Mass storage" , it does so such that when I reference the file system path to the drive, I must enclose it in quotes e.g. cd "/media/Mass storage" - How do i configure the name so that it doesnt use spaces?
[12:13] <azcazandco> want to put win2k on hda1 and use hdb for backing up settings etc
[12:14] <SurfnKid> how do ya write a rename script?
[12:15] <LjL> SurfnKid: with a text editor
[12:15] <iratik_> SurfnKid: echo 'mv someexistingfilename  somerenamedfilename' > myscript.sh
[12:15] <LjL> or "man rename" even
[12:15] <iratik_> SrufnKid: chmod +x myscript.sh
[12:15] <SurfnKid> wha about a batch if i have 100 files to rename
[12:15] <LjL> SurfnKid: "rename" can do that. "man rename"
[12:15] <SurfnKid> LjL, coolers
[12:15] <SurfnKid> thx
[12:15] <SurfnKid> iratik, thx
[12:16] <luca> quickcam pro?
[12:16] <luca> sorry, reading from above
[12:16] <luca> LaserLine: quickcam pro?
[12:16] <luca> were you actually able to make it function under Dapper?
[12:16] <iratik_> Anyway, How do you manually set the name given to an automatically named device. The name ubuntu edgy gave my device "Mass storage" I can't really use, because then I have to reference it like "/media/Mass storage" (in quotes). Does anyone know what i'm talking about?
[12:17] <azcazandco> gnomefreak: I cannot bork the mbr on my sata drive doing all of this can i?  My one saving grace has been that I can change the boot order in the bios and it keeps coming back to this install
[12:17] <bense> does anyone know anything about those IDE - SATA dongles?
[12:17] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: if you can, just format it again with mkfs and use the -L for labeling it
[12:17] <gnomefreak> azcazandco: reinstalling its a good idea to write new mbr (installer does that for you
[12:18] <iratik_> so .... unmount, then   'man mkfs' ?
[12:18] <soulfire41> Hey, if i have the Ubuntu server install, can i get a shell with that and install gnome myself to give myself the desktop?
[12:18] <LaserLine> luca "yeah, it just worked" under dapper, but yeah it's a Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000
[12:18] <azcazandco> so it'll write the mbr to the new sata?
[12:18] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: what fs are you using on it?
[12:18] <luca> LaserLine: what driver did you use?
[12:18] <bense> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812206001
[12:18] <bense> like that
[12:18] <azcazandco> so effectively I will have one on my old and one on my new?
[12:18] <iratik_> Kingsqueak: Its an external USB hard drive, It just automatically 'works', it appears on the screen at the root of the drive
[12:18] <azcazandco> if all installs are on separate drives?
[12:18] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: do you need it to work in Windows?
[12:19] <luca> LaserLine: out of curiosity because I am not able to use mine, which uses a Pixart Imaging chipset
[12:19] <iratik_> I haven't configured it or anything, and the plug n play works great except it automatically is named 'Mass storage'
[12:19] <iratik_> I'm not trying to format the usb hard drive
[12:19] <bense> guess that's a no
[12:19] <m0dY> how to set the date in my linux? not the time
[12:19] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: well to fix the name you have to
[12:19] <azcazandco> wish me luck
[12:19] <LaserLine> luca I wish i could be more helpful, but all I did under dapper was plug it in and it worked and all I did was plug it in edgy and it only somewhat works...and by that i mean the mic works and the light goes on when it wants to use the camera just a grey screen
[12:19] <iratik_> I'm not trying to do anything difficult here, i just want to rename "/media/Mass storage" to "/media/Mass_storage"
[12:19] <Innoruuk> Has anyone gotten quake 1 to remember the in-game settings?
[12:19] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: that's the volume label
[12:20] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: it autodetects the label on the drive and mounts it
[12:20] <iratik_> Yepp, the volume label - how do I alter the volume label ?
[12:20] <CyDrive> is there anyway to get the emerge pacage manager to work in ubuntu?
[12:20] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: it involves formatting that drive, that's what I'm getting at
[12:20] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: you set the volume label in the options when you create the filesystem on it
[12:20] <iratik_> omg , there is no way to create an alias or something?
[12:21] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: well if you override the auto mounting, you can mount it to whatever you want
[12:21] <iratik_> like ln -s "/media/Mass storage" ~/MassStorage
[12:21] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: the auto mounting will always name it that way otherwise
[12:21] <iratik_> Where are the configs for the auto mounting
[12:22] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: actually you could do that, the symlink
[12:22] <simon360> is there an easy way to install Ubuntu on Intel Macs yet?
[12:22] <m0dY> how to set the date in ubuntu? not the time!
[12:23] <iratik_> Kingsquek ,ahh , so I already knew how to do it
[12:23] <iratik_> thanks
[12:23] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: yup ;-)
[12:23] <iratik_> now if I can just get that symlink to be visible on the public web server
[12:23] <iratik_> i'm trying to make this usb hard drive completely visible from the internet
[12:24] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: a tip though, if you do just format that drive, you can mount it via the LABEL you give it and it's very convenient for removable storage devices as their dev names can change
[12:24] <jramsey> just enabled multiverse in sources.list; how do i get the repo updated?
[12:24] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: formatting won't break the nice automatic'ness of it either
[12:24] <wasp_ems> UnDeR|CoVeR, so ask here
[12:24] <confusco> anybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows
[12:24] <UnDeR|CoVeR> ok so how do i install
[12:24] <iratik_> Kingsquek: but'll it get rid of the 450 gb of info on the drive
[12:24] <olds> jramsey: sudo apt-get update
[12:25] <UnDeR|CoVeR> my nvidia vga drivers?
[12:25] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: ah, yeah don't bother then
[12:25] <wasp_ems> malaka
[12:25] <luca> LaserLine: what driver did you use?
[12:25] <Kingsqueak> iratik_: thought it was a new drive
[12:25] <jramsey> olds, i dont need gencaches?
[12:25] <iratik_> nope
[12:25] <iratik_> its an archive , this is a new system
[12:25] <UnDeR|CoVeR> ti malaka?
[12:25] <Kingsqueak> got ya
[12:25] <UnDeR|CoVeR> i'm asking!
[12:25] <olds> I don't think you need gencaches
[12:25] <protolnx> what's a one liner for mount in order to have a flash driver mounted with user permissions? I can't copy I can't write nor delete....
[12:25] <wasp_ems> can someone help UnDeR|CoVeR  who wants to use xgl and beryl withan nvidia card?
[12:26] <bhudda> whats the command to install a deb from terminal?
[12:26] <wasp_ems> UnDeR|CoVeR, also join #xgl and #beryl
[12:26] <iratik_> dpkg
[12:26] <bhudda> ah thanks
[12:26] <olds> dpkg -i
[12:26] <LaserLine> luca: like I said I don't know what driver I used in dapper... i just plugged it in and it worked
[12:26] <olds> I think
[12:26] <bimberi> !dpkg | bhudda
[12:26] <ubotu> bhudda: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[12:26] <bhudda> i had a brain fart...
[12:26] <jramsey> olds, maybe u know this; can't play pogo games because it whines about java not being installed, but it is; i tried apt-get install sun-java5-plugin but the pkg isnt available
[12:26] <bimberi> hm, that factoid has changed
[12:26] <luca> LaserLine: ok thanx
[12:26] <apokryphos> wasp_ems: language please
[12:26] <confusco> anybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows
[12:26] <Kingsqueak> bhudda: just don't install a non Ubuntu made deb
[12:26] <olds> pogo games?
[12:27] <apokryphos> you too UnDeR|CoVeR
[12:27] <jramsey> yeah
[12:27] <wasp_ems> apokryphos, what happened?
[12:27] <luca> anyone: has somebody tried to install the gspca driver on Ubuntu?
[12:27] <UnDeR|CoVeR> apokryphos:  greek?
[12:27] <jramsey> www.pogo.com java games
[12:27] <apokryphos> right
[12:27] <bhudda> kingsqueak whats that?
[12:27] <UnDeR|CoVeR> niiice
[12:27] <VigoFusion> pogo use to rock!
[12:27] <Kingsqueak> bhudda: a deb is built for a particular platform, if you try to install it on a different platform, Bad Things can happen
[12:27] <Kingsqueak> bhudda: just making sure you understand that
[12:28] <bhudda> i need the libdvdcss but i can't find it in aptitude, apt-get, or automatix...
[12:28] <Kingsqueak> bhudda: a Debian .deb package isn't an Ubuntu Dapper .deb etc
[12:28] <bhudda> kingsqueak noted, but then how do I get that package?
[12:28] <Skwid_> any tips on how to make xmms menus look better ? (i think it uses gtk1)
[12:29] <apokryphos> Skwid_: easy: don't use it :)
[12:29] <apokryphos> !audio
[12:29] <Kingsqueak> bhudda: 'apt-cache search libdvdcss'
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <apokryphos> !players
[12:29] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:29] <h00t> can anyone tell me what is the difference between mplayer & movie player ... which one is essential and which one can i get rid off
[12:29] <wasp_ems> hello can anyone help with installing nvidia drivers?for use with beryl
[12:29] <Skwid_> apokryphos: yeah ... but i like the gxmms dock thing
[12:29] <Skwid_> does that exist for banshee etc ?
[12:29] <Kingsqueak> h00t: run them both and make a choice
[12:29] <kikokos> hi,
[12:30] <apokryphos> Skwid_: yes. I recommend trying Banshee, Amarok and JuK and then making your mind up.
[12:30] <Hazart> wasp_ems: I think there is alot of howtos for that on the forums.
[12:30] <kikokos> how to add server in xchat?
[12:30] <kikokos> because I dont see there this what I want
[12:30] <Hazart> kikokos: Its under preferences.
[12:30] <h00t> Kingsqueak, which one has firefox plugin
[12:30] <Skwid_> apokryphos: i like amarok very much
[12:30] <Skwid_> but i hade the kde look :(
[12:30] <apokryphos> :O
[12:30] <kikokos> Hazart: thx
[12:30] <Kingsqueak> h00t: there's an mplayer plugin for mozilla/firefox
[12:30] <protolnx> what's a one liner for mount in order to have a flash driver mounted with user permissions? I can't copy I can't write nor delete....
[12:30] <h00t> Kingsqueak,
[12:30] <h00t> thanx
[12:31] <adx> how do i grep a word from all files in a dir?
[12:31] <jramsey> !pastebin | jramsey
[12:31] <ubotu> jramsey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:31] <apokryphos> adx: use a wildcard
[12:32] <adx> apokryphos :how?
[12:32] <Kingsqueak> adx:   grep word *
[12:32] <LjL> adx: grep -R <some-regexp> /path/to/your/files/*
[12:32] <Skwid_> apokryphos: how do i get banshee to have dock controls ?
[12:32] <jramsey> ok here's the lame error i get on pogo; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33354/
[12:33] <apokryphos> Skwid_: check in the preferences/settings
[12:33] <enyc> I would like somebody to confirm a problem I am having with mkisofs in Edgy --
[12:33] <adx> thanks
[12:34] <kitche> enyc: well it's hard to confirm if you don't say what your problem is
[12:34] <jramsey> any takers on my java prob?
[12:34] <Skwid_> apokryphos: what's your favorite ? :)
[12:35] <iratik_> where is the configuration file for sshd ?
[12:35] <enyc> I am finding that mkisogs _NO LONGER_ makes ISO9660-compliant filename -- e.g. I am trying to create a CD image that is entirely DOS-compatible without -relaxed-filenames -- this _works_ in dapper/previous  but in edgy the mkisogs mucks up and puts in miked-case names etc.
[12:35] <SurfnKid> LjL, i took a look at man rename but it only renames files from capital to non capital etc or extension wise
[12:35] <enyc> kitche: apologies, see above
[12:35] <apokryphos> Skwid_: Amarok for sure. But Banshee isn't **that** bad an alternative if you have to use GTK
[12:35] <LjL> SurfnKid: no, not really. it can take any regular expression.
[12:35] <kitche> jramsey: did you install java? sicne ubuntu uses gcj instead
[12:35] <apokryphos> Skwid_: I can't live well without a nice collection, queing songs, and general kde configurability that Amarok offers though =)
[12:35] <SurfnKid> im trying to rename files i.e  dsc00001 to dsc10001  changigntt the first 1 in a batch
[12:35] <enyc>  kitche note that this even happens if I explicitly specify ISO level 1)
[12:35] <FFForever> how do i install flash for firefox?
[12:36] <pyro> where do i edit my mount points? /etc/fstab looks wierd.. well.. when you've used rehdat/fedora most of ur life
[12:36] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[12:36] <Skwid_> apokryphos: i see, i like all the context features, like lyrics, wikipedia info etc
[12:36] <SurfnKid> LjL, wish there was a website
[12:36] <jramsey> kitche, yes; apt-get install sun-java5-bin; is this incorrect for ubuntu?
[12:36] <bimberi> FFForever: applications -> add/remove, search for flash
[12:36] <enyc> kitche: I have successfully worked aroutd this by using the mkisofs binary from dapper! but Im sure something is wrong...
[12:36] <SurfnKid> so i could rename a whole batch name of files, im not much into programming, except on DOS, but not on it anymore ! lol
[12:36] <LjL> SurfnKid: there is. "man regex" and "man sed" are there also
[12:37] <SurfnKid> oh didnt know
[12:37] <SurfnKid> ok
[12:37] <felixjet> hi
[12:37] <kitche> jramsey: yes but did you make it your default java provider?
[12:37] <jramsey> kitche, i have no idea how to do that so i suppose i didn't
[12:37] <kitche> enyc: hmm I don't have problems with mkisofs on edgy but hten again I don't use many switches to do it
[12:37] <felixjet> correct me if im wrong... metacity is a window manager, like beryl. and XGL is a 3d for beryl. right?
[12:38] <enyc> kitche: the problem can be shown when not using any switches really
[12:38] <squeee> I have a mythtv box that requires noapic to be enabled, but I'm getting some problems with stability and really need it enabled.  Is there anyway I can get this working? (2.6.19/18 kernel or something)
[12:38] <kitche> jramsey: you have to use the update-alternative --java command there is more on ubuntu's site about it
[12:39] <bimberi> felixjet: yes, metacity.  no, xgl is an X server
[12:39] <enyc> kitche: e.g.  mkisofs input/ > output.iso   -- and it will NOT be iso-level-1 uppercase-only etc. -- it will not read properly in DOS and stuff....
[12:39] <protolnx> what's a one liner for mount in order to have a flash driver mounted with user permissions? I can't copy I can't write nor delete....
[12:39] <enyc> kitche: but it works properly in dapper version!
[12:40] <LjL> SurfnKid: rename "s/dsc.(....\.png)/dsc1\1/" *     might work, though no guarantees - test it in a backup directory first
[12:40] <enyc> hrrm
[12:41] <mat1> any one know why my intel video card is giving me no gart memery?
[12:41] <jramsey> kitche, i dont think i have multiverse set right in sources.list; i am checking now
[12:41] <enyc> kitche: bah! there _is_ already a bugreport about this!
[12:41] <felixjet> bimberi: but compiz, beryl and metacity are all windows mangers for X ?
[12:41] <SurfnKid> LjL,  ok thanks will check,
[12:41] <SurfnKid> :)
[12:41] <bimberi> felixjet: yes
[12:43] <felixjet> bimberi: its because im bored of metacity and i cant get running the murrine themes xD compiz o beryl (without XGL) are fast and stable as metacity? or not worth
[12:43] <protolnx> !usb
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <chaelot|home> hi, i have a beginners question if anyone would care to help me out :)
[12:43] <mat1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33243/
[12:43] <protolnx> !flash drive permissions
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash drive permissions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <protolnx> stupid bot
[12:44] <LjL> !msg the bot | protolnx
[12:44] <ubotu> protolnx: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[12:44] <chaelot|home> i just installed ubuntu on my dell inspiron 9300 laptop, and sound playback sounds strange (?)... for some reason it sounds like it's playing sounds out of a tin can
[12:44] <bimberi> felixjet: idk sorry, i've only played briefly with compiz/beryl and neither was stable
[12:45] <jramsey> kitche, i am using ubuntu 5.1; should i upgrade?
[12:45] <LjL> jramsey: probably
[12:45] <bimberi> ergo, dell == tin can :)
[12:46] <chaelot|home> bimberi: hehe, well, i am new to all of this :) just wondering if it's using wrong setup or something as it does sounds quite a lot better in Windows :)
[12:46] <mat1> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33243/ can u see why my video card not loading beryl?
[12:46] <astronouth7303> I have a saitek gamer's keyboard. (USB) It works fine as a basic keyboard and is recognized perfectly by ubuntu. I want to know how I can use the extra control "pod"
[12:46] <LjL> mat1: i never used beryl, and #ubuntu-xgl is the channel for beryl/compiz/xgl/aiglx help
[12:46] <mat1> i'm banned from there:(
[12:47] <chaelot|home> LjL: does there exist such a channel for people with sounds problems :) ?
[12:47] <LjL> do i look like an information point?
[12:48] <LjL> !sound
[12:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:48] <chaelot|home> thanks :)
[12:48] <graham> ndiswrapper help needed
[12:48] <chaelot|home> LjL: sorry to be a pester, just wanted someone to point me in the right direction :)
[12:48] <graham> i am on ubuntu 6.06
[12:48] <graham> benn at this all night :(
[12:49] <Luci3n> graham whats the problem
[12:49] <mat1> yea well i'm banned from ubuntu-xgl
[12:49] <graham> i cant seem to do anything with it
[12:49] <graham> seems not to be working
[12:49] <Keyseir> I repeatedly have "Segmentation fault" and "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" when running firefox. Sometimes restarting will solve the problem, other times I'll reinstall and it'll work fine for another few days. Does anyone have any ideas why I may be having these problems with FF? Running edgy.
[12:50] <graham> what i need is a linux for dumb nuts edition lol
[12:50] <bimberi> !fffc | Keyseir
[12:50] <ubotu> Keyseir: If Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )
[12:50] <holycow> Keyseir, what ubuntu release, 64 bit or 32 bit?
[12:50] <graham> help help help :( lol
[12:50] <Luci3n> graham have you got any gui to help you detect the network?
[12:50] <holycow> custom firefox build or from package install?
[12:50] <graham> umm i dont know whats that??
[12:51] <mat1> :@
[12:51] <graham> i am really a linux virgin you see i was on xp for a long time
[12:51] <Luci3n> have yoiu installed from synaptic an app to help you identify the network
[12:51] <Keyseir> holycow, How do I check that?
[12:52] <Keyseir> holycow, I installed from the desktop cd
[12:52] <graham> wouldn't know where to start with that so prob not
[12:52] <graham> and all this is to get a wireless card to work
[12:52] <SurfnKid> LjL,  rename "s/dsc.(....\.png)/dsc1\1/" *   worked great
[12:52] <Luci3n> graham have you follwoed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:52] <SurfnKid> LjL, just changed the png to jpg extension
[12:52] <SurfnKid> thanks!
[12:52] <LjL> SurfnKid: nice
[12:53] <Luci3n> it's pretty simple
[12:53] <LjL> SurfnKid: oh, right, i forgot the png thing, i was just trying a random extension =)
[12:53] <SurfnKid> could i do that as a script like  runren.sh?
[12:53] <graham> been on that page can't make sense of it and tried most suggestions on there
[12:53] <SurfnKid> yeah changed it, figured that was it
[12:53] <graham> i need lots of assistance with the whole thing
[12:53] <mat1> ARRRGGGG
[12:53] <SurfnKid> i have it set up on windows xp as ren.bat but the programming aint the same
[12:54] <holycow> sorry back
[12:54] <graham> do appologise for being annoying
[12:54] <holycow> Keyseir, when did you download the installer?
[12:54] <mat1> omg
[12:55] <Keyseir> holycow, I installed through apt-get.
[12:55] <eugman> When I try to watch an avi file with totem the picture blanks out almost immediately. When I try to watch with mplayer it complains about not being compiled with mp3lib. What can I do?
[12:55] <Luci3n> graham iknow th feeling
[12:55] <Luci3n> try here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=527919a42c5acdf1b1f5eea4d17bac64&t=31926
[12:55] <Keyseir> holycow, I also uninstalled and installed again with apt-get or aptitude once, and now i'm having the problem again.
[12:55] <holycow> Keyseir, you mean you upgraded to the latest ubuntu using apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:55] <graham> can you help me with this??
[12:55] <Keyseir> holycow,  No. I'm talking about firefox.
[12:55] <Keyseir> holycow, I installed Ubuntu Edgy Eft through the desktop cd.
[12:55] <SurfnKid> LjL, copy that line to a new file and name it *.sh and chmod it to what?
[12:55] <Luci3n> yes i have installed it on a number of my machine here
[12:56] <Keyseir> holycow, Clean.
[12:56] <LjL> SurfnKid: uhm? you still want to make a script?
[12:56] <Luci3n> graham what have you done so far
[12:56] <holycow> Keyseir, thats what i was wondering, okay.
[12:56] <SurfnKid> sorry yeah
[12:56] <mat1> omg can any one help me on my video card issue
[12:56] <SurfnKid> with that same stuff i guess
[12:56] <holycow> Keyseir, what plugins do you have for it and what extensions do you have?
[12:56] <SurfnKid> so it runs auotmatically
[12:56] <LjL> SurfnKid: you don't need to rename it. you need to put     #! /bin/sh   on the first line, and to chmod +x
[12:56] <holycow> i had the same thing on 2.0 ff on edgy with my stumble extension
[12:56] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[12:56] <Keyseir> holycow, Nothing that isn't default.
[12:56] <SurfnKid> let me write this down
[12:57] <holycow> i had to remove it manually and restore it
[12:57] <holycow> oh really?
[12:57] <graham> umm messed the whole thing up i think! tried installing ndiswrapper and didn't seem to work at all kept saying some kind of error
[12:57] <Luci3n> graham do you remember what error
[12:57] <eugman> Whta's the issue matl?
[12:57] <mat1> hello?>
[12:57] <holycow> Keyseir, okay have you tried deleting .mozilla from your home directory and restarting ff?
[12:57] <graham> hang on i will tell you
[12:57] <chaelot|home> hmmok, now i have enable the ALSA mixer and unmuted everything, still got sound, but the playback sounds very "thin" and sparkles often
[12:58] <chaelot|home> anyone know what that might be ?
[12:58] <Keyseir> nou, I'll try that.
[12:58] <Keyseir> holycow, Will renaming it work? ;-)
[12:58] <holycow> thats the same thing yes
[12:58] <mat1> my intel video card wont use my ram as memory
[12:58] <LjL> SurfnKid: generally speaking, if the first line of a file (we call it A) begins with #! followed by a filename (call this B), the shell tries to run B as a command, passing A as an argument. so, for shell scripts, you want B to be a shell (/bin/sh)
[12:58] <graham> tar: ndiswrapper: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[12:58] <graham> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:58] <graham> tar: Child returned status 2
[12:58] <graham> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[12:58] <graham> that error
[12:58] <holycow> okay so question for non noobs ... do we like or hate nforce drivers on linux?  nvidia seems to have binary drivers available, just curious if there are any known issues and such?
[12:59] <SurfnKid> LjL, i see
[12:59] <SurfnKid> let me write that down too lol
[12:59] <LjL> graham: you were already told to use the pastebin for long pastes. you're on mute for 10 minutes now
[01:00] <Luci3n> LjL that's rather harsh
[01:00] <chaelot|home> okok, learn by doing ---> google is my friend :)
[01:00] <kitche> holycow: most people just use AC97 drivers for them
[01:00] <eugman> matl, Hmmm. I'm afraid I don't know how to solve that one. If you can't get help here check the forums and the wiki. Someone is olikely to have had the same problem.
[01:00] <LjL> Luci3n, it's not like he wasn't warned.
[01:00] <Keyseir> holycow, Still getting a core dump
[01:00] <holycow> kitche, allrightty
[01:00] <Terminus> holycow: i'm on a nforce2 mobo right now and i never needed to install the nforce drivers. granted, i did disable the audio and ethernet because i wanted to use my own stuff...
[01:01] <mat1> beryl wont run becuase of my intel card
[01:01] <holycow> Keyseir, okay for that i would fill out the bugtracker thing that you might get ... for now try to download and use either mozilla, epiphany, opera or konqueror for web browsing
[01:01] <denys> anybody was able to install spoofstick extension on firefox 2.0 under edgy?
[01:01] <ArrenLex> mat1: I can't imagine that's the reason... my ATI card only gets 80fps with glxgears because the driver is so bad, but beryl still ran fine. You cannot possibly do worse and still have hardware acceleration at all.
[01:01] <holycow> Keyseir, i'm sorry but the standard regular configuration level fixes don't seem to be working for you, sounds like a bigger issue
[01:02] <holycow> Terminus, neato, thx for the heads up, appreciate that
[01:02] <Apex> Does anyone why system sounds would not be working through digital spdif when mp3 play and sounds at the login screen play?
[01:02] <eugman> matl, I know you can install binary drivers for nvidia and ati but I don't know about intel I'm afraid.
[01:02] <mat1> gart memory is not even here...
[01:02] <Keyseir> holycow, Thanks for your assistance
[01:02] <holycow> Keyseir, no problem, helping out this community helps me  by making it stronger
[01:02] <Terminus> holycow: like kitche said, AC97 could work(never tried it myself) and the forcedeth driver that comes with the kernel hasn't failed me yet on other installs.
[01:02] <hikenboot> anyone know how to convert a debian deb package to a ubuntu package?
[01:02] <Keyseir> holycow, =)
[01:03] <hikenboot> is there somthing like alien out there
[01:03] <Zaggynl> hikenboot, ubuntu uses .deb files
[01:03] <Zaggynl> no need for converting afaik
[01:03] <hikenboot> right I was told they wont work on ubuntu though
[01:03] <mat1> how i check my rendering dire?ct
[01:03] <VigoFusion> I got sound yipeeee
[01:03] <Celldweller> heyya guys....
[01:03] <SurfnKid> LjL, nevermind ill just run that command from the prompt lol
[01:03] <hikenboot> is this true?
[01:03] <LjL> hikenboot, that's correct, but it's not a problem of packaging formats. RPMs tend to not work (and/or break things) even after you convert them with alien
[01:04] <holycow> hikenboot, there is alien yes
[01:04] <LjL> hikenboot: you shouldn't use Debian packages because they normally require different versions of dependencies, etc
[01:04] <holycow> what LjL said
[01:04] <Zaggynl> They've worked here, only had some dependency issues, but I only had to get those to get it working
[01:04] <holycow> indeed, i really gotta get some time to write some noob overview wiki docs that explain things in diagrams
[01:05] <holycow> like ubuntu 101 or something :)
[01:05] <rioghal> wow this window manager is quite nice
[01:05] <Celldweller> I need to get a copy of winblows 200 pro  to dual boot with ubuntu.. I use windows to mix music with sony software.. does anyone know where i can get an iso or anything of that sort
[01:05] <javaJake> Can anyone help me install hotplug?
[01:05] <rioghal> Window Maker
[01:05] <holycow> rioghal, which one are you using?
[01:05] <javaJake> rioghal, wow... how'd you do that character?
[01:05] <holycow> javaJake, hotplug? you don't install that, its already present
[01:05] <holycow> infact you cannot really remove it without hosing your box
[01:05] <javaJake> holycow, holycow! ;)
[01:06] <javaJake> holycow, so, yea, really?
[01:06] <rioghal> javaJake, copy & pasted it into xchat's auto-replace
[01:06] <javaJake> Oh, right!
[01:06] <javaJake> So where are the usermap files then?
[01:06] <Luci3n> graham you back yet
[01:06] <Celldweller> i've got 5 boxes
[01:06] <Celldweller> we're wiping the dell
[01:06] <holycow> Celldweller, we cannot tell you anything about windows warez ... you might consider using mixing software on linux.  there is quite a lot of it.  search for multimedia knoppix live cd to test out a lot of the tools available?
[01:07] <holycow> Celldweller, maybe ebay is your best bet or something
[01:07] <holycow> javaJake, yes, why are you worried about hotplug anyway?
[01:07] <javaJake> Because I need to have a script executed when I plug in the WUSB54GS USB device
[01:07] <Celldweller> holycow, i've owned the software before and have lost the cd, much like most computer geeks
[01:07] <javaJake> (Long story why I need it, but I do.)
[01:07] <Celldweller> lol
[01:07] <jramsey>  anyone with ideas why java apps won't run in firefox on breezy? i have gcj installed (including the plugin) and update_alternatives shows gcj as the java provider
[01:08] <Celldweller> but i shall look somewhere else
[01:08] <holycow> Celldweller, nothing we can help you with, welcome to the wonderfull world of microsoft licencing bs
[01:08] <Celldweller> if that is the case
[01:08] <Celldweller> lol
[01:08] <Celldweller> i know
[01:08] <javaJake> !language | holycoq
[01:08] <ubotu> holycoq: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:08] <javaJake> Rats
[01:08] <Celldweller> thats why i use ubuntu and slackware
[01:08] <javaJake> Well, you get the idea
[01:08] <Celldweller> lol
[01:08] <Celldweller> i fuckin hate windows
[01:08] <holycow> javaJake, whats with the long story why you need it? i don't get how you could NEED IT when its installed BY DEFAULT?
[01:08] <holycow> :)
[01:08] <VigoFusion> Celldweller: Make a backup of the system before you wipe the dell?
[01:08] <javaJake> :|
[01:08] <Celldweller> it just has my software i paid for
[01:08] <holycow> Celldweller, indeedy
[01:08] <Celldweller> yes its already backed up
[01:08] <Luci3n> celldweller i hate windows to
[01:08] <Celldweller> and its wiped
[01:09] <Celldweller> i just need to burn an iso file
[01:09] <graham> am i back on now
[01:09] <graham>  yey
[01:09] <mat1> my video card is doing this direct rendering: No
[01:09] <VigoFusion> Use ImgBurn or somesuch tghing
[01:09] <holycow> graham, wb
[01:09] <holycow> hehe
[01:09] <javaJake> holycow, no no, I need to run a script when a device is plugged in.
[01:09] <javaJake> holycow, that's it
[01:09] <snowshoefox> HOw do I prevent a hard drive from being loaded at bootup?
[01:09] <graham> yup at last lol
[01:09] <holycow> javaJake, oh then just look up how to use it, its all there.  nothing would work on ubuntu/debian if it didn't have hotplug really
[01:09] <graham> did you get that error??
[01:09] <Celldweller> tell it not to boot it in the bios
[01:10] <Qwell> So, can somebody point me to the right tool to recompile a kernel, and have it end up as a dpkg?
[01:10] <Celldweller> snowshoefox,
[01:10] <Lovloss> is it possible to make a drive that windows has been running on anything other than read-only?
[01:10] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Qwell about kernel | Qwell, you have a private message from Ubotu
[01:10] <Lovloss> from linux i mean
[01:10] <Luci3n> graham get on you private chat
[01:10] <marltu> how to download whole directory from ftp?
[01:10] <Qwell> LjL: Thanks
[01:10] <javaJake> holycow, I must be doing something wrong then. My computer does wierd things.
[01:10] <Lovloss> i can only seem to copy
[01:10] <LjL> marltu: you could use wget
[01:10] <mat1> direct rendering: No and it needs to be yes to run beryl:(
[01:10] <graham> saying private is blocked due to spam and i aint a member
[01:10] <jramsey>  anyone with ideas why java apps won't run in firefox on breezy? i have gcj installed (including the plugin) and update_alternatives shows gcj as the java provider
[01:11] <marltu> LjL: wget -r?
[01:11] <javaJake> jramsey, check about:plugins
[01:11] <jramsey> ??
[01:11] <holycow> Lovloss, if its in ntfs you have two options:  no and yes.  no meaning there isno real proven reliable ntfs write support ... OR ... yes there is an ntfs driver being worked on appearently and recently had a beta release or something.  if you value your ntfs data and integrity the general consensus is not to write to ntfs directly, but run it as a server and write to it via samba network share
[01:11] <javaJake> jramsey, punch in "about:plugins" in your browser
[01:11] <javaJake> in firefox*
[01:11] <snowshoefox> yea don't write to NTFS, i lost a months work because of it once
[01:12] <Lovloss> i can move stuff *from* it using gksudo, but i cant get to it because i miffed windows up and i cant boot from it now
[01:12] <holycow> again, welcome to the proprietary world of microsoft where nothing works without paying an extortion fee
[01:12] <Luci3n> have you been able to download the deb files
[01:12] <bhudda> can you read from NTFS safely though?
[01:12] <Lovloss> i think i may just copy everything off and bomb it
[01:12] <javaJake> snowshoefox, did you back up "like a good little boy would"? :D
[01:12] <snowshoefox> of course not
[01:12] <DigitalNinja> I'm having libirary issues
[01:12] <jramsey> javaJake, GCJ web browser plug-in 0.3.2
[01:12] <javaJake> jramsey, OK
[01:12] <Spee_Der> !lynx
[01:12] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[01:12] <holycow> Lovloss, correct, back everything up using linux, then plug hd back in and reinstall.  you won't be getting stuff back on to ntfs reliably as a locally mounted partition
[01:12] <graham> how do i register??
[01:13] <holycow> !register
[01:13] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:13] <bhudda> can you read from NTFS safely?
[01:13] <holycow> bhudda, absolutely
[01:13] <graham> !register
[01:13] <Celldweller> bhudda yea
[01:13] <javaJake> bhudda, yes, in case you wanted my opioning
[01:13] <graham> lol that did alot
[01:13] <jramsey> seems like it ought to run java apps but the pogo games wont run with a whine msg about java not being installed or not working
[01:13] <Celldweller> lol
[01:13] <Lovloss> okay. one more question. How can i copy files to linux in such a way that i dont have to chown each and every folder :P
[01:13] <javaJake> bhudda, yes, in case you wanted my opinion*
[01:13] <preaction> jramsey, do not use GCJ, it does not work. use blackdown java or sun's java for linux
[01:13] <iwkse> snowshoefox: did you used ntfs-3g when you lost data?
[01:13] <holycow> graham, you haveto be registered to use the bot i think ... at leats i think so
[01:13] <graham> how do i do that??
[01:14] <bhudda> javajake thanks, now I have to figure out how to get my stupid SATA drives to mount correctly
[01:14] <Spee_Der> !links2
[01:14] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[01:14] <javaJake> graham,  /register <password>
[01:14] <javaJake> bhudda, google is your bud.
[01:14] <holycow> Lovloss, depends on the filesystem ... you do haveto chown the entire mounted device if the system is reading the guest filesystem permissions.  thats just the nature of fs security
[01:14] <Lovloss> oh i can just chown the entire mount?  For some reason chown never went down omre then one folder for me. :|
[01:16] <holycow> you only fix that in fstab if its a permanent recurring mount.  if its a single mount that you mounted manually you just do it by hand, its faster
[01:16] <holycow> javaJake, ll folders
[01:16] <DigitalNinja> Some of my systems have libglib2 version 2.10.2. Others have version 2.10.3. What's going on here?
[01:16] <VigoFusion> supper time or somethin, bbl
[01:16] <snowshoefox> iwkse, now it happened before ntfs-3g was released
[01:16] <javaJake> holycow, ok
[01:16] <javaJake> I gotta dash
[01:16] <holycow> javaJake, well; you didn't do chown -R user.group some.dir.location
[01:16] <javaJake> Tata everyone
[01:16] <snowshoefox> iwkse, *no
[01:16] <iwkse> snowshoefox: ah..ok
[01:17] <Luci3n> graham you still there??
[01:17] <javaJake> Dinna (yum)
[01:17] <Apex> What plays the system's sound events, can I change players?
[01:17] <jramsey> preaction, installing blackdown now
[01:17] <Jordan_U> DigitalNinja: It is probably because both are in the repos and you have different applications that depend on different versions.
[01:17] <redDEADresolve> hey guys im looking for a good guide to install beryl on Ubuntu 6.10 with my ati driver already installed
[01:17] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell redDEADresolve about beryl | redDEADresolve, you have a private message from Ubotu
[01:17] <graham> yes
[01:17] <preaction> jramsey, realize that blackdown is 1.4 and sun's is latest, so again some things may not work correctly
[01:17] <F28> Is there a free alternative to VMware for linux?
[01:18] <LjL> !info qemu | F28
[01:18] <holycow> i would use suns package and follow the wiki on how to create your own deb out of the binary
[01:18] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3630 kB, installed size 9860 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[01:18] <iwkse> F28: VMware player is fre
[01:18] <Zaggynl> Anyone in here uses AIGLX on dapper?
[01:18] <holycow> its actually very easy
[01:18] <Luci3n> graham write my name before the message it's difficult to read other wise
[01:18] <iwkse> just just qemu+vmplayer
[01:18] <holycow> or just wait until java is gpl'd and then it will be a simple install
[01:18] <LjL> iwkse: not "free" as in in the FSF "free software" definition
[01:18] <graham> luci3n ok
[01:18] <Skwid_> i was wondering, ntfs read/write is still not stable right ?
[01:18] <Luci3n> graham have you downloaded the two packages i mentioned before
[01:18] <iwkse> LjL: yes..right
[01:18] <DigitalNinja> Jordan_U: Well, my main workstation has 2.10.3. I need to install the dev libraries but they are 2.10.2. How do I update/install them
[01:18] <jramsey> well it cant work less than than not at all
[01:18] <holycow> Skwid_, read has always been stable
[01:19] <graham> luci3n i cant send private chat
[01:19] <mjr> Skwid_, one would do well not to trust it too much; write, that is.
[01:19] <holycow> Skwid_, write is not
[01:19] <Skwid_> holycow: write :)
[01:19] <Skwid_> ok thank you
[01:19] <graham> luci3n brb
[01:19] <Skwid_> if i have fat32
[01:19] <Luci3n> graham: don't worry about private chat
[01:19] <LjL> graham, the bot has sent you information about registering so you can send private messages
[01:19] <Skwid_> it should be safe to symlink firefox profiles etc right ?
[01:20] <Jordan_U> DigitalNinja: Have you tried just sudo apt-get install packagename-version-dev
[01:20] <Jordan_U> ?
[01:20] <prower> Hello :> I had wireless with WAP-EAP and all working fine with wpa_supplicant with Ubuntu 6.06.1...then I upgraded to the latest kernel and modules, and now it can't find the madwifi module when I try to load it :/ Has it been renamed?
[01:20] <DigitalNinja> Jordan_U: No. How do I tell apt what version I want
[01:21] <Luci3n> graham: have you downloaded the ndiswrapper utils
[01:21] <Jordan_U> DigitalNinja: What package / version do you need again?
[01:21] <bimberi> DigitalNinja: sudo apt-get install package=version
[01:22] <jramsey> preaction, it works ... thanks for ur help
[01:22] <bimberi> DigitalNinja: where version is one of the ones shown in 'apt-cache policy package'
[01:22] <DigitalNinja> Jordan_U: libglib2.0-dev version 2.10.3. However, synaptic only shows version 2.10.2
[01:23] <Luci3n> graham open synaptic and search for ndis
[01:23] <DigitalNinja> bimberi: Let me check that last command
[01:23] <Luci3n> graham system > administration > synaptic package manager
[01:24] <Qwell> LjL: This instructions are pretty bad ;)
[01:24] <DigitalNinja> bimberi: It only shows version 2.10.2. I need version 2.10.3
[01:24] <Gizzle> Question, i am running edgy 6.10 - why is the scrolling not smooth in firefox and all other applications?
[01:24] <holycow> Gizzle, probably because you don't have 3d accelerated drivers for your video card
[01:25] <DigitalNinja> holycow: Firfox isn't 3D
[01:25] <graham> luci3n got ndiswrapper-utils 1.8-oubuntu2 and nasm there ae check boxes but nothing in them
[01:26] <Gizzle> holycow, how do i obtain such driver - my card is a radeon 9500?
[01:26] <apokryphos> Gizzle: check the FAQ =)
[01:26] <holycow> DigitalNinja, please consider not commenting on things your not an expert on :)
[01:26] <holycow> !ati
[01:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:26] <Jordan_U> DigitalNinja: But no 3D probably means bad 2D acceleration also.
[01:26] <h00t> i'm sorry i know this is stupid but how the hell do you escape from a man page in terminal ... Alt-x or something
[01:26] <Luci3n> graham have you got ndisgtk ther
[01:26] <holycow> Gizzle, you want to make sure you have accelerated drivers installed as per those instructions
[01:26] <holycow> indeed, 3d is a superset of 2d at this point in time
[01:27] <apokryphos> h00t: q
[01:27] <Luci3n> graham there should be 4 or 5 items for selection
[01:27] <h00t> apo
[01:27] <h00t> thanx
[01:27] <DigitalNinja> holycow: Well, I've got systems with no 3D driver and the scroling in Firfox works just fine. Hows that for beeing an expert.
[01:27] <Gizzle> holycow, okay thanks very much
[01:27] <graham> luci3n there are only those 2 that i mentioned that is all
[01:27] <Anderson> What command can I use to check disk usage?
[01:27] <bimberi> DigitalNinja: Is this Dapper?
[01:27] <holycow> and regardless chances are that if hes not running 3d accelerated drivers hes probably not running 2d accelerated either but vesa or some such
[01:27] <bimberi> Anderson: df
[01:27] <DigitalNinja> bimberi: Yup!
[01:27] <Anderson> bimberi, Thank you.
[01:28] <Luci3n> graham download http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/ndiswrapper-utils
[01:28] <bimberi> Anderson: 'df -h' is a bit more readable :)
[01:28] <holycow> DigitalNinja, that just shows you don't have a clue ... which is okay.  a touch of humble pie goes a long way tho
[01:28] <kayxray> I used 'dd if=/dev/hda1 | gzip -9 > WinXP.img.gz' to backup my Windows XP partition.  When I try to use 'gunzip WinXP.img.gz - | dd of=/dev/hda1' to try and restore it, it tries to write WinXP.img (from WinXP.img.gz) but runs out of space.  Can I unzip directly to dd like I did with zip?
[01:28] <Luci3n> graham the download http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/ndisgtk
[01:28] <bimberi> DigitalNinja: the dapper-updates repository has 2.10.3, do you have that enabled?
[01:28] <Jordan_U> DigitalNinja: I have an nvidia card that has horrible scrolling using nv but not with nvidia , some 2d only drivers are good enough, some aren't
[01:28] <Luci3n> graham save them both to your home directory
[01:29] <DigitalNinja> holycow: Just letting you know that I don't use 3D drivers for some things
[01:29] <holycow> DigitalNinja, i'm aware of that without requiring the heads up :)  got it.  thank you.
[01:29] <graham> luci3n there is a choice of 2 but i am not running a 64 bit which one do i need?? the i386??
[01:29] <Luci3n> graham yes
[01:30] <DigitalNinja> Jordan_U: I see
[01:30] <veet> help me please
[01:30] <holycow> veet, okay, whats the problem?
[01:30] <DigitalNinja> bimberi: I think so. I just did an update but I'll double check
[01:30] <veet> i try to install matlab program
[01:30] <veet> installer ask me for cd2
[01:30] <veet> but i don't eject cd1
[01:30] <graham> luci3n umm there are lots of small print selections for europe which one do i need??
[01:30] <veet> device busy
[01:31] <Lovloss> im confused. I just mounted /dev/hda1 to /Desktop/d   succesfuly but i cant open it. It says i have no permissions - even after i tried chowning it
[01:31] <Anderson> Is anyone familiar with the smartmontools daemon?
[01:31] <graham> luci3n does it matter??
[01:31] <holycow> veet, pressing the cdrom button doesn't work either?
[01:31] <mcphail> kayxray: have you tried gunzip -c file instead of gunzip file - ?
[01:31] <veet> no
[01:31] <veet> cdrom button disables
[01:31] <Jordan_U> veet: Do you have any windows open in a directory on the CD?
[01:31] <veet> cdrom button disabled
[01:31] <phobiac> Anyone have any experience with using gparted to manage partions? I want to know if it's possible to combine my two ext3 partions into one.
[01:31] <Luci3n> graham select one close to you in the uk
[01:31] <veet> only matlab window
[01:31] <holycow> Jordan_U, oh good call, forgot about that
[01:31] <graham> luci3n how do i save to home??
[01:32] <veet> i can't close it
[01:32] <Lovloss> this is what i get when i try to chown that directory : chown: changing ownership of `/home/lovloss/Desktop/d': Read-only file system
[01:32] <iwkse> veet: try to force umount
[01:32] <holycow> veet, why can't you close matlab window?
[01:32] <siegie> i want to sign the code of conduct, I must now do gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.txt and copy past the its contents but when i click on continue he keeps tellings me fix problems no public key
[01:32] <Luci3n> graham are u using firefox
[01:32] <graham> luci3n yes
[01:32] <veet> i'm going to install matlab program from cd1!!
[01:32] <iwkse> veet: you can use or umount -f or a good hammer
[01:33] <Anderson> Is anyone familiar with the smartmontools daemon?
[01:33] <veet> umount -f doesn't works: devicd busy
[01:33] <phobiac> Anyone have any experience with using gparted to manage partions? I want to know if it's possible to combine my two ext3 partions into one.
[01:33] <MsClock> That wasn't very funny...
[01:33] <veet> umount impossible
[01:33] <Luci3n> graham when it prompts you to save save it to your home directory /home/yourusername
[01:33] <iwkse> veet: why don't you try octave?
[01:33] <holycow> !matlab
[01:33] <veet> i don't know octave
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matlab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <Lovloss> oh, gksudo cant either
[01:33] <Lovloss> oy
[01:33] <h00t> what's a difference between "apt-get update" & "apt-get upgrade"
[01:33] <holycow> i have no idea what matlab is either or how it installs
[01:34] <holycow> veet, does matlab have an ubuntu installer? how are you installing this?
[01:34] <graham> luci3n gives me option of gdebi package installer or save to disk which one?
[01:34] <Anderson> h00t, upgrade will upgrade all of your out of date packages
[01:34] <DigitalNinja> bimberi: It was missing. I only had the src one in there. Lets see if it works this time
[01:34] <graham> luci3n lol i am so thick
[01:34] <LjL> h00t: update just reads the list of available packages, and caches it. upgrade installs new upgraded packages
[01:34] <Jordan_U> h00t: upgrade can remove obsolete packages.
[01:34] <veet> from matlab original cd
[01:34] <veet> 3 cdrom
[01:34] <holycow> veet, what do you mean original cd? is matlab available natively for linux?
[01:34] <iwkse> matlab for linux?
[01:34] <Luci3n> gdebi will install it for automatically
[01:34] <holycow> or are you trying to use windows cd?
[01:34] <iwkse> huh
[01:34] <LjL> Jordan_U, actually i don't think upgrade ever removes anything, that's what dist-upgrade does
[01:34] <Jordan_U> h00t: never mind, I thought you meant dist upgrade vs upgrade :)
[01:34] <veet> matlab for linux and mac
[01:34] <Anderson> h00t, upgrade-distro will update to the latest distrobution if you make the changes in your apt repositories
[01:34] <LjL> Anderson: dist-upgrade
[01:35] <holycow> veet, oh so they have a custom install script then probably.  they are bypassing the package manager
[01:35] <Anderson> LjL, YEA, sorry.
[01:35] <bellemerlord> Hi, i got a Problem with my edgy. When i login, there is no wallpaper, no icons on the desktop, nautilus doesnt start anymore and a rightclick on the desktop has no effekt. Can someone pleas help me?
[01:35] <LjL> Anderson: and it's often not the best way to upgrade to a *new* distribution
[01:35] <LjL> !upgrade
[01:35] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:35] <veet> of course
[01:35] <Jordan_U> LjL: I know brain fart :)
[01:35] <veet> but only problem is cdrom eject
[01:35] <holycow> veet, sounds like their custom script sucks and doesn't want to let go of the cdrom device for some reason.  i guess you have rebooted a few times and tried a few things?
[01:35] <graham> l;uci3n it said same version is available in a channel and the closed what does that mean??
[01:36] <LjL> veet: have you tried typing "eject"?
[01:36] <mcphail> veet: have you tried a umount -l ?
[01:36] <w3ccv> I'm a new Edgy Eft user, the network device manager GUI recognizes my LinkSYS PCMCIA nic, and will connect to my home AP if it is in OPEN mode. But I cannot connect in 128bit WEP mode, hmmm!  How??
[01:36] <veet> yes holycow, many times
[01:36] <Luci3n> graham try saving it to your disk
[01:36] <LjL> veet: and the error is?
[01:36] <graham> luci3n ok
[01:36] <mimi> can anyone help me configure a motorola razr v3 with multisync and evolution please
[01:36] <veet> umount -l: command not found
[01:36] <holycow> veet, i'm out of ideas ... the suggestions by the other folks are good ... beyond that i would haveto play with matlab to get an idea of whats going on, sorry i won't be able to help any further
[01:36] <felixjet> when i start the computer, gnome dont load the apps that i left opened before close system. i mean, i dont get any "restored session". how can i fix it?
[01:37] <veet> thank you holycow
[01:37] <Jordan_U> veet: Any terminals open?
[01:37] <Skwid_> apokryphos: thanks, i found my happiness now :) using banshee + music applet, awesome !
[01:37] <veet> yes
[01:37] <Anderson> What command shows my current version number?
[01:37] <apokryphos> Skwid_: cool =)
[01:37] <protolnx> is there a nintendo DS emulator for linux?? There are tons for m$$ i don't seem to find any for linx
[01:37] <Jordan_U> veet: Are they cd'd into a dir on the CD?
[01:37] <mcphail> veet: did you type umount or unmount?
[01:37] <apokryphos> Skwid_: the one thing banshee has over amarok still is daapd server+client
[01:37] <h00t> I have a bit of a problem I've uninstalled old automatix since i've just upgraded to latest version "edgy" ... now I installed new "automatix2" ... the problem is that it doesn't recognize any software that the old version installed ... how can i remove the old versions of the software
[01:37] <w3ccv> Anderson - try `uname -a`
[01:37] <apokryphos> Skwid_: amarok has started one, but it's not nearly as mature
[01:38] <Anderson> w3ccv, I get the kernel version with that, but not the distrobution number.
[01:38] <smallfoot-> if anyone know a hardware company that done something good or bad such as cooperate with open source or anti-competive, please add it to http://vendors.bluwiki.org/
[01:38] <veet> umount
[01:38] <Luci3n> graham you finished yet
[01:38] <LjL> !automatix | h00t
[01:38] <ubotu> h00t: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[01:38] <graham> luci3n now it says the default kernel provides the required modules if you use the custom module you may also need the kernal module package
[01:38] <Falcongrinder> does anyone know of a cd/dvd burning software that doesnt have problems?
[01:38] <mcphail> veet: your system should have a umount command!
[01:38] <graham> luci3n ???
[01:39] <veet> andrea@andrea-laptop:~$ umount -l
[01:39] <veet> Usage: umount [-hV]
[01:39] <veet>        umount -a [-f]  [-r]  [-n]  [-v]  [-t vfstypes]  [-O opts]
[01:39] <veet>        umount [-f]  [-r]  [-n]  [-v]  special | node...
[01:39] <h00t> well that helps
[01:39] <Jordan_U> smallfoot-: Try #ubuntu-offtopic, you will probably get a lot of suggestions there.
[01:39] <graham> luci3n I am lost
[01:39] <Luci3n> graham try it anyway
[01:39] <veet> this is the answer
[01:39] <Anderson> Is there any command for finding the distrobution number?
[01:39] <mcphail> veet: are you on edgy?
[01:39] <bimberi> !version | Anderson
[01:39] <ubotu> Anderson: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[01:39] <veet> yes
[01:39] <Luci3n> graham i've just installed it on my machine here as we speak
[01:39] <Lovloss> yay i did it. im backing up my HD
[01:39] <mcphail> veet: maybe they removed the "lazy unmount" option. I'm using dapper...
[01:39] <protolnx> is there a nintendo DS emulator for linux?? There are tons for m$$ i don't seem to find any for linx
[01:39] <Lovloss> So i managed to get my girlfriend to switch to ubuntu. She got so excited by the add/remove program "You mean this is all FREEE!?"
[01:40] <veet> ah ok
[01:40] <iwkse> mcphail: there's too in edgy
[01:40] <lechat> t
[01:40] <Jordan_U> veet: Again, are any of your terminals in a directory that is on the CD, you may want to just close them all to be sure.
[01:40] <veet> andrea@andrea-laptop:~$ eject cdrom
[01:40] <veet> umount: /media/cdrom0: device busy
[01:40] <holycow> Lovloss, nice :)
[01:40] <agent> h00t: realize that automatix people have attitude problems (why they left ubuntuforums) and they think automatix is perfect and can never break any system whatsoever... hence people here don't even try helping with automatix :)
[01:40] <Luci3n> Lovloss i removed XP from my machine and my wife has never used the pc since
[01:40] <holycow> tell her community support is free too and point her here
[01:41] <graham> luci3n I have ndiswrapper-utils_18-oubuntu2_i386.deb on my desktop is this correct?
[01:41] <holycow> Luci3n, lol why? thats weird
[01:41] <Lovloss> Its funny. i added linux thinking I was going to dual boot with windows xp about equally. Im now deleting XP. its worthless
[01:41] <Lovloss> yes, ill definately show her the community
[01:41] <graham> luci3n its a package also
[01:41] <Luci3n> holycow dunno i think she is afraid
[01:41] <holycow> re: automatix, we really need to start advising against ever using automatix
[01:41] <h00t> i don't think that it's perfect ... i obviously just fucked my system ... just trying to fix things now... :)
[01:41] <apokryphos> holycow: we do :)
[01:41] <apokryphos> !automatix
[01:41] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[01:41] <holycow> there really needs to be a push to kill that project, its absolutely a horrible way to do anything
[01:41] <Luci3n> ok now click on the utils package and install it first
[01:42] <LjL> !language | h00t ;)
[01:42] <ubotu> h00t ;): Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:42] <holycow> apokryphos, oh you did add that little bit at the end :)
[01:42] <holycow> nice
[01:42] <Lovloss> yeah i was going to say
[01:42] <graham> luci3n how do i do that (you are being an exellent help thankyou so far)
[01:42] <Jordan_U> Luci3n: Just keep a big Firefox logo on the Desktop and maybe she will think, hey I know that :)
[01:42] <apokryphos> holycow: forum users love it, as it goes.
[01:42] <Lovloss> I cant believe how fast linux copies and moves files! Windows never wnet this fast
[01:42] <holycow> h00t, if anyone installs automatix, i simply tell them to reinstall.  its painfull but a lot less painfull then actually fixing their stuff
[01:42] <Lovloss> it must be the ext3 format among other things
[01:43] <holycow> apokryphos, i think they only love the idea.  when they run into a problem they learn
[01:43] <bobby_> !sound
[01:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:43] <graham> luci3n be right back i am just getting a drink
[01:43] <Luci3n> Jordan_U i'm afraid she is very stuck to IE and outlook MSN and it takes time for here to come round
[01:43] <LjL> Lovloss, Linux also tends to be quite aggressive with file caching
[01:43] <apokryphos> holycow: you'd think so, but it's still regarded quite highly there.
[01:43] <Luci3n> graham I'll have a coffee thanxs
[01:43] <holycow> i would go so far as to say that i would pay for an extension to the forums or some bot thing in here that whenever automatix is mentioned a huge piece of spam is posted on the thread to annoy the buggers :)
[01:43] <Anderson> Is my understanding correct that gksu is used to utilize commands for graphical applications, without using the GUI?
[01:43] <Lovloss> so did everyone hear about microsoft and Suse joining forces via Novell?
[01:43] <holycow> apokryphos, really? wow
[01:43] <grndslm> anybody using edgy and beryl on intel graphics??
[01:44] <apokryphos> Anderson: gksu is used for when you need to run a graphical program as root
[01:44] <Jordan_U> Luci3n: If she is REALLY stubborn, A: update her XP machine to IE7 which is different ;) or IE4Linux :)
[01:44] <Lovloss> careful with gksudo
[01:44] <LjL> Anderson: hm, not sure what you're saying... gksudo (and gksu) are used to run graphical programs as root
[01:44] <apokryphos> Anderson: it should generally be avoided, but if you *have* to, that's the best way.
[01:44] <DigitalNinja> bimberi: It's working! Thanks
[01:44] <LjL> !offtopic | Lovloss
[01:44] <ubotu> Lovloss: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:44] <bimberi> DigitalNinja: cool. np :)
[01:44] <Anderson> apokryphos, I see, thanks for clarifying.
[01:44] <holycow> Lovloss, they didn't join forces, they signed an agreement on which they now disagree.  microsoft is interested in the divide/conquor strategy with respect to linux
[01:44] <Luci3n> Jordan_U I updated IE for her and then she complained ;)
[01:44] <Anderson> apokryphos, Why is it not recommended?
[01:45] <Lovloss> gksudo should be avoided because you can do anything in it to your files, including delete system stuff
[01:45] <holycow> essentially the agreement means death for novell as now windows users hate then AND linux users are strongly negative on them
[01:45] <Lovloss> i see holycow, thanks
[01:45] <Luci3n> Jordan_U I think she would like IE4Linux mmm, maybe
[01:45] <Lovloss> good to know... but lets not stray off topic if that bothers people ^_^
[01:45] <holycow> but thats my opinion, i've been wrong often :)
[01:45] <h00t> holycow, wait a minute it can't be that bad... i installed some things w/ automatix ... the problem is that add/remove applet doesn't see them as installed, i gues i'll have to remove them w/ apt ... can someone tell me how to make apt check what packages i have
[01:45] <apokryphos> Anderson: you can bork your system by a single wrong click and if you always run as root it undermines the whole root/user distinction that we have in wonderful Linux
[01:45] <Jordan_U> Luci3n: Lucky her, IE7 doesn't worki in Linux :) , but yeah #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:45] <holycow> h00t, it Is VERYT VERY VERY BAD
[01:46] <LjL> h00t: "dpkg --get-selections" lists the installed (and previously installed) packages
[01:46] <Lovloss> I use gksudo all the time because i have to mess with write-protected drives
[01:46] <Lovloss> Just stay out of anything but /home/ or media/<something>
[01:46] <holycow> if you use automatix you are bypassing the package manager and you are allowing some unknown group of people with very dubious reputations (read children with tiny egos) do a lot of nasty things to your box in the background
[01:46] <apokryphos> Lovloss: why do you need root for write-protected drives?
[01:46] <Anderson> apokryphos, Makes sense.
[01:46] <holycow> h00t, THE REASON that it is bad, IS BECAUSE all they had to do was create a bunch of new installers and metapackages and host their own repos
[01:46] <Lovloss> because they wont let me look at them, since they're not mounted logically
[01:47] <Lovloss> i have to mount them via sudo, and they come with permissions
[01:47] <Qwell> LjL: Got any other wiki links, perhaps one that isn't completely inaccurate? :)
[01:47] <Who_> anyone know how to change the User Interface font for WINE applications?
[01:47] <Lovloss> I unplugged them when i installed linux you see, so that grub wouldnt get put on the other drive... again
[01:47] <h00t> holycow,  ... so it's a hack
[01:47] <Lovloss> that was annoying
[01:47] <apokryphos> Lovloss: you can change that; the user option
[01:47] <holycow> h00t, so what you get is a custom install of some custom stuff UNDERNEATH your system, and god knows what changes are made to your box.  you just don't know
[01:47] <Jordan_U> Who_: AFIK, only registry edits :(
[01:47] <Lovloss> hmm? what do you mean
[01:48] <LjL> Qwell: no, sorry. that's the official wiki though, so if you find better instructions, perhaps you'll want to correct the wiki
[01:48] <apokryphos> h00t: the idea itself is fine and dandy, it's just badly executed in automatix's case.
[01:48] <merverferker> anyone happen to know a method to connect my ipod?
[01:48] <Who_> Jordan_U; yea - I'm looking at the registry now - I can't seem to find where to change it
[01:48] <MsClock> Why do the Ubuntu forum people have sticks up their asses...?
[01:48] <apokryphos> Lovloss: if your fstab entry has the user option then you don't require root privs to mount it
[01:48] <MsClock> Damn I have a PERT chart to draw
[01:48] <Qwell> LjL: well, hell
[01:48] <holycow> h00t, thats basically it, the thing is, its a bad hack on a magnificent level.  building installers and packages on dpkg is so simple (lots of work but not complicated) that its so super nice to do it right
[01:48] <apokryphos> MsClock: come on, language please :)
[01:48] <h00t> so the big question is ... is there anything automatix CAN do that I cannot do on my own
[01:48] <Lovloss> hmm i need to learn how to do that... i wont mess with it right now though, i have copying going on
[01:48] <LjL> h00t: no
[01:48] <Who_> Jordan_U: there seem to be a bunch of _binary_ options that might represent the font to use, but I have no idea how to generate the right stuff
[01:48] <Lovloss> it wont matter in a bit though
[01:49] <apokryphos> h00t: faq + documentation + wiki :)
[01:49] <holycow> h00t, the thing  is you look at their work and shake your head ... you haveto work VERY VERY hard to go out of your way to build something like that when dpkg / apt are so easy to do right
[01:49] <Jordan_U> Who_: If you want clearlooks there is a clearlooks theme file ( I don't use win so I don't remember what filetype themes are ) that works with WINE.
[01:49] <holycow> h00t, no
[01:49] <h00t> coming from debian ... all i can say ... BOW BEFORE APT-GET
[01:49] <Who_> Jordan_U: have you tyried it? I tried it an all widgets rendered _really_ slowly
[01:49] <Lovloss> apt-get is fine
[01:49] <Lovloss> i wouldnt use anything more
[01:49] <holycow> h00t, it just makes sense.  its not hard to actually do a custom anything in it
[01:49] <Who_> Jordan_U: they are .msstyles, as far as I have found
[01:50] <holycow> this is why i kinda wince when i hear people running things like matlab installers
[01:50] <rioghal> for those of you who use a wm that doesnt have a notification area in-built, i just found a very nice systray dockapp: http://sourceforge.net/projects/peksystray/
[01:50] <h00t> what are "metlab" installers
[01:50] <holycow> where its some shitty bash script because their devs are too lazy to setup proper build system and package things right
[01:50] <Lovloss> wow. language today
[01:50] <Jordan_U> Who_: Worked fine for me, but with flash 9 I have no more need for WINE, yeah .msstyles was it.
[01:50] <apokryphos> holycow: come on, please watch the language
[01:51] <Lovloss> you know guys, i do the sailor talk a lot too, but this is a place for intellectual discussion
[01:51] <holycow> matlab is a commercial package it seems, someone here was having a hard time installintg it, partially because it uses its own installer
[01:51] <Who_> Jordan_U - you don't happen to remember where you got it do you?
[01:51] <brush01uk> Veet     , right click  the cd icon
[01:51] <apokryphos> and as LjL notes, it's probably time to continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic now
[01:51] <Jordan_U> Who_: I'll look for the link....
[01:51] <Gertoly> My system isn't seeing my hdd (it's a old 95mb), how can i probe the ide channel to see if any new devices have been connected to it?
[01:51] <Lovloss> lol 95 mgs? wow, that stough
[01:51] <pyro> oh yea "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" and i have kde
[01:51] <h00t> so ... i'll tell you what I'll try to "somehow" fix it and see if i'll break my system and have to install from scratch
[01:51] <grndslm> could somebody explain to me why direct rendering isn't enabled on my computer with intel (i815) graphics??  and/or how to turn it on
[01:51] <Who_> Jordan_U: don't look too hard - I've got google too :)
[01:51] <Skwid_> favorite text editor guys ?
[01:52] <LjL> Gertoly: ugh. i just have to wish you good luck
[01:52] <Lovloss> Gertoly, just mount the drive and you should be able to get in. if its plugged up
[01:52] <grndslm> Skwid, gedit
[01:52] <Gertoly> yeh i know, but it isn't the size that counts right :-/
[01:52] <Luci3n> graham did you get me a coffee, black no sugar please
[01:52] <Lovloss> im doing that right now with an old HD of mine
[01:52] <rioghal> Luci3n, hahaha
[01:52] <w3ccv> emacs !!! Forever
[01:52] <holycow> Skwid_, nano :) for configuring files anyway
[01:52] <LjL> Skwid_: 900 people here, please don't ask what everyone's favorite editor is :-\ use #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <Gertoly> that's the thing, i have to plug it in after i boot, or the system hangs or does not see my other hdd.
[01:52] <rioghal> Skwid_, vim ftw!
[01:52] <Skwid_> LjL: ok, sorry
[01:52] <Lovloss> oh thats because its listed in your bios as a boot
[01:52] <mjr> grndslm, /var/log/Xorg.0.log should give some clues, if you could eg. post it on pastebin.ca
[01:53] <Luci3n> Skwid komodo
[01:53] <din> happy franksgiving
[01:53] <Lovloss> in your bios, there should be a "boot order". Take that one out of the list
[01:53] <Gertoly> it's not in it
[01:53] <Lovloss> thats bizarre
[01:53] <grndslm> mjr: it says Screen 0 is not DRI capable...do you need more?
[01:54] <h00t> This was bothering me for a while ... you know how in gnome, if you have an movie file it shows as an icon of 1 frame from the movie ... how does gnome determine what frame to pick
[01:54] <Gertoly> i had this problem ~2 years ago with the same exact hdd, all i remember is i need to attach it after boot and run some kind of proble
[01:54] <mjr> grndslm, yes
[01:54] <iwkse> grndslm: disable composite
[01:54] <Anderson> Where do I find the scripts that start daemons?
[01:54] <Jordan_U> Who_: Whatever it was, I used winecfg to use the theme.
[01:54] <Kingsqueak> Anderson: /etc/init.d/
[01:54] <Who_> Jordan_U: yea - okay, that's what I was doing - was it just a regular theme designed for windows, r had it been tweaked for wine?
[01:55] <grndslm> iwkse...comment out the lines??  because they weren't in there by default in edgy, i added 'em, and still no luck so i did comment them out already
[01:55] <Ricky28269> what command locks the computer?
[01:55] <Anderson> Kingsqueak, Thanks
[01:55] <Gertoly> is there some sort of probe ide command i can use to recheck my ide devices?
[01:55] <iwkse> grndslm: Section "Extensions"
[01:55] <iwkse>         Option      "Composite" "false"
[01:55] <iwkse> EndSection
[01:55] <Lovloss> try fstab-l
[01:55] <Lovloss> that one looks at your devices
[01:55] <Lovloss> is that all he has to type guys, sudo ftsab -l
[01:55] <Jordan_U> Who_: It was a regular one for windows, but the specific version of it was known to work welll in wine.
[01:56] <grndslm> iwkse: weird, i'll try it
[01:56] <Who_> Jordan_U: thanks - I'll keep hunting :)
[01:56] <Lovloss> then "mount /dev(device) (where you want itt o go)
[01:56] <Anderson> In linux scripting, would soething that looks like this (NAME=/path/folder/file) be used for defining variables within the script?
[01:56] <mborohov> hey
[01:56] <Gertoly> yeh i'm with you on the mounting
[01:56] <NoStop> Gertoly: what are you trying to find out about your ide devices?
[01:56] <redDEADresolve> can anyone point me to the beryl channel?
[01:56] <mborohov> so i have a question with regards to getting an ipod working with ubuntu
[01:56] <Lovloss> you can try 'lspci"
[01:56] <Gertoly> you sure it's fstab -l ?
[01:56] <merverferker> ?
[01:57] <Lovloss> well i dunno, no one is backing me here.
[01:57] <Gertoly> i'm trying to get the system to use it. i have to connect it after i boot
[01:57] <mborohov> ive tried everything i can think of, but when its mounted by ubuntu automatically, i cant access it as a normal user, and furthermore, when it appears on the desktop neither amaroK nor banshee recognize it
[01:57] <NoStop> to see partitions you could use fdisk -l   (that's an L)
[01:57] <merverferker> i also need help with ipod
[01:57] <Lovloss> see
[01:57] <green_earz> Anderson: and here a link for back ground read of the init.d scripts > http://wiki.debianhelp.org/pmwiki.php/DebianHelpPages/DebianInitScripts
[01:57] <Lovloss> guys, how come when i copy large amounts of files, it gets to the end and then starts lagging up my computer
[01:57] <Lovloss> such as, say, right now
[01:58] <Lovloss> it says its tsill copying too, and my drive is making copy noises
[01:58] <Anderson> green_earz, thanks, does it cover syntax?
[01:58] <Lovloss> is it unpacking a cashe?
[01:58] <Skwid_> anybody figured out a nice way to get better web fonts in ubuntu ? :s
[01:58] <redDEADresolve> can anyone help me with beryl? the default theme is UGLY i dont want a purplr window does anyone know how to get back to the orginal theme that white and plain?
[01:58] <Skwid_> redDEADresolve: right click on the beryl in your bar
[01:58] <Daviey> Anybody know what ubuntu edgy uses as the boot splash screen?
[01:58] <Skwid_> emerald theme manager
[01:58] <Kingsqueak> redDEADresolve: click on the ruby in the taskbar and set the theme
[01:58] <mborohov> anyone have any ideas?
[01:58] <Lovloss> Gertoly, i think fdisk -l is what you need
[01:58] <mborohov> anyone have iT working?
[01:59] <redDEADresolve> yeah i want the 1.0 default theme not the purple or pink ones they use
[01:59] <grndslm> iwkse: at least X didn't crash this time...but it still complains about there not being a compisite extension....do i need the Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" and  Option "AIGLX" "true" lines??
[01:59] <redDEADresolve> or at least how to access more themes, it tell me i need subversion package
[02:00] <Gertoly> Lovloss: i'll try it now, but i don't remember using fdisk before.
[02:00] <Lovloss> i know, but its worked for me in the past
[02:00] <Lovloss> tell me what happens
[02:01] <graham> luci3n lol i have my tea now ran out of coffee though
[02:01] <neonempyr> Circuit simulator that works with Ubuntu?
[02:01] <Gertoly> Lovloss: in the past unde what circumstance? i'm all ears
[02:01] <graham> luci3n i have another problem now
[02:01] <iwkse> grndslm: are you using xgl?
[02:01] <Luci3n> graham yes
[02:02] <grndslm> iwkse: no, i don't think i need to with aiglx, right?
[02:02] <Lovloss> Well Gertoly I had two internal HDDS i had to unplug when i installed linux to my external, so itd be totally modular. so it did not recognize the drives
[02:02] <Lovloss> fdisk -l showed me where they were located
[02:02] <graham> luci3n it says only one software mangement tool is allowed to run at the same time
[02:02] <Gertoly> no, didn't do anything
[02:02] <iwkse> grndslm: ah..so you use aiglx...
[02:02] <mborohov> anyone have any ideas on the ipod?
[02:02] <Gertoly> i see in the man page "List the partition tables for the specified devices and then exit. If no devices are given, those mentioned in /proc/partitions (if that exists) are used."
[02:02] <graham> luci3n big red stop sign with it too
[02:02] <iwkse> grndslm: you should enable composite && i can't help you
[02:02] <Anderson> What's the deal with commands and other things followed by a number in paranthesis
[02:02] <Anderson> Question mark
[02:03] <grndslm> heh...alright...thanks iwkse
[02:03] <Luci3n> graham close synaptic
[02:03] <Gertoly> think it just used /proc/partitions (which it isn't there)
[02:03] <graham> luci3n oh yeah *slaps self in head* lol
[02:03] <Gertoly> mount -t vfat isn't working either
[02:03] <graham> luci3n it's installing now
[02:04] <graham> luci3n it says it has installed now
[02:04] <Lovloss> just type "sudo fdisk -l" thats all
[02:04] <Lovloss> it wont format your disk :P
[02:04] <graham> luci3n you have a good memory
[02:04] <Gertoly> all this for a picture of my son...might have to just take another picture and make him stand on his knees to get that young effect :-p
[02:04] <Anderson> For example when you man a command it comes back with     command (x)    with x being an integer
[02:04] <Gertoly> Lovloss: that's what i did, but it didn't list anything from it, just what is working right now
[02:04] <graham> luci3n what's next i have installed the first one
[02:05] <Luci3n> graham now do the next
[02:05] <Lovloss> try /more/fstab
[02:05] <mborohov> anyone??
[02:05] <mikeo1> how do i compile linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-386? i cant find them anywhere
[02:05] <grndslm> whoever feels like helping me with my edgy/aiglx/beryl/intel problem...have at it, here's a copy of xorg.0.log:  http://pastebin.ca/255488
[02:05] <grndslm> mjr, there's my xorg.0.log above
[02:05] <Lovloss> sorry! "more /etc/fstab
[02:05] <Anderson> No one has information on the integer in paranthesis that follows commands and stuff when you man them?
[02:06] <mikeo1> how do i compile linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-386? i cant find them anywhere
[02:06] <Lovloss> "more /etc/fstab" tell syou EVERYTHING that it sees, gertoly
[02:07] <mat2> hi
[02:07] <mat2> me mat1
[02:08] <mat2> i am onther pc
[02:08] <mat2> need help
[02:08] <Daviey> Has anybody made a custom usplash?
[02:08] <mikeo1> how do i downgrade from 2.6.15-27 to 2.6.15-26?
[02:08] <mikeo1> since there are no dri modules out yet for 27
[02:08] <Lovloss> any luck?
[02:08] <mat2> i cant get beryl running here eiver and this pc haves nvidia
[02:08] <Luci3n> graham has it finished
[02:09] <graham> luci3n it has finished both are installed
[02:09] <graham> luci3n now what do i have to do?
[02:09] <Luci3n> graham you ndiswrapper in no fully functional
[02:09] <grndslm> mikeo1, you feel like upgrading to edgy?  it typically makes installing beryl a ton easier
[02:09] <mikeo1> no
[02:10] <Luci3n> graham system > admin > wireless window
[02:10] <mikeo1> this is running on a box that is mainly a server
[02:10] <mikeo1> edgy isnt that stable
[02:10] <grndslm> mikeo1, beryl on a server?
[02:10] <mikeo1> only when im infront of it
[02:10] <graham> luci3n do i have to conigure it or install new driver?
[02:10] <mikeo1> otherwise x isnt even running when im not here
[02:10] <grndslm> i haven't found a single problem with edgy and i've been running it on 3 different computers for a while
[02:10] <Anderson> What's the deal with commands and other things followed by a number in paranthesis?
[02:11] <Luci3n> graham have you any drivers installed
[02:11] <Gertoly> damn, no luck
[02:11] <mikeo1> i dont want the upgrade to nuke my pc
[02:11] <Lovloss> well i tried :(
[02:11] <graham> luci3n no i dont but i have the cd for my wireless card
[02:11] <Gertoly> yes and thank you, because i really never knew the -L switch to fdisk :-)
[02:11] <mikeo1> if there was an easy way to backup before the upgrade i would do that adn upgrade but there isnt with 200gb used
[02:11] <Lovloss> ^_^
[02:11] <w3ccv> Anderson - the number in () is the man section it is in.
[02:11] <graham> luci3n do i have to use that?
[02:11] <Luci3n> graham you'll have to get the drivers and the install them you can you normal window
[02:11] <gunfus> Hello
[02:11] <Luci3n> graham drivers
[02:12] <Lovloss> i ask so many questions here i try to offer answers now and theen
[02:12] <graham> luci3n how do i do that?>
[02:12] <Luci3n> graham what do you mean??
[02:12] <graham> luci3n i bet you think i am soo stupid
[02:12] <grndslm> mikeo1, that's why you mount your important directories on separate partitions
[02:12] <Luci3n> graham never ;)
[02:12] <gunfus> doing ./configure I am seeing "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[02:12] <funkyHat> Anyone got Murrine to work? :( won't work here
[02:12] <gunfus> what does that mean?
[02:12] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell gunfus about build-essential | gunfus, you have a private message from Ubotu
[02:13] <gunfus> how to resolve it?
[02:13] <Gertoly> let's say the hdd is unformated and never been formatted. You do fdisk -> mount -> dd right?
[02:13] <Lovloss> hmm... wmv files are a restricted format of their own huh
[02:13] <graham> luci3n i have my windows install cd but what do i do to install the drivers??
[02:13] <gunfus> LjL: Thanks
[02:13] <Anderson> w3ccv, Thanks.
[02:13] <zircx> hey guys, question, has anyone installed vmware successfully and had it fully operational, I know vmware player is available but that requires a windows image file doesn't it? you can't actually install windows using the vmware player can you?
[02:13] <funkyHat> Oops.. wrong channel :/
[02:13] <^Ocean^> is it possible to tell whats useing a port on my computer, what process...  im trying to run something but its saying ports already in use
[02:13] <LjL> zircx: you can.
[02:13] <graham> luci3n :) you should be a I.T technical support worker
[02:13] <Luci3n> graham insert the CD and look for the correct .inf file
[02:13] <Lovloss> let me get this straight. Linux has to not come with restricted format support because that would be potentially making profit using them, so you have to install them personally... right?
[02:13] <LjL> zircx: http://www.easyvmx.com is just one way to create virtual machines for vmware
[02:13] <zircx> aha
[02:13] <graham> luci3n how do i find the correct one?
[02:13] <Luci3n> graham no thanks i'm a software manager
[02:13] <protolnx> does any one konw the channel for eternal lands
[02:13] <protolnx> ?
[02:14] <marltu> zircx: i've launched ubuntu in VM
[02:14] <Gertoly> Lovloss: for wmv?
[02:14] <Luci3n> graham trial and error
[02:14] <protolnx> can I play it single player?
[02:14] <LjL> Lovloss: no, it's because of patents. and it's not "Linux", it's "Ubuntu"
[02:14] <Lovloss> ya
[02:14] <murph2481> is there a way to get sound juicer to connect to CDDB for Audio CD Information?
[02:14] <graham> luci3n i guess that is a better job lol
[02:14] <Lovloss> right ubuntu
[02:14] <paradox> What is the terminal command to create a new folder?
[02:14] <zircx> marltu, yeah i want to install this XP Lite on vmware to see how it pans out ..
[02:14] <marltu> zircx: if you want, you can ask in private or i go sleep
[02:14] <LjL> paradox: mkdir
[02:14] <Gertoly> you mean other distros don't have that limitation?
[02:14] <paradox> LjL, thanks :)
[02:14] <marltu> xp lite?
[02:14] <LjL> Gertoly: yes. i guess most of them today do, though, everybody's scared of being sued
[02:15] <Luci3n> graham you know ndiswrapper is used for wireless connection using windows drivers
[02:15] <graham> luci3n what would happen if i were to install all of the .inf files on the cd?
[02:15] <Lovloss> then its linux :D
[02:15] <zircx> marltu, I'm all ears..
[02:15] <protolnx> anyone know the channel for eternal lands/
[02:15] <murph2481> is there a way to get sound juicer to connect to CDDB for Audio CD Information?
[02:15] <Gertoly> but there is still "ways" correct?
[02:15] <LjL> Lovloss: no, linux is just a kernel, it doesn't concern itself in the least with what is distributed and in which repositories etc
[02:15] <graham> luci3n well i know it is now i had no clue before you told me lmao
[02:15] <Luci3n> graham i don't know one should work at least probably more
[02:15] <Lovloss> okie then
[02:16] <Lovloss> i have to go guys, got a lot more copying to do
[02:16] <Lovloss> thanks for all your hlep as usual
[02:16] <graham> luci3n be back in a few moments i am going to try to get this to work
[02:16] <redDEADresolve> how do i get to the beryl channel
[02:16] <Luci3n> graham i'm about to get some zzz
[02:16] <w3ccv> I'm a new Edgy Eft user, the network device manager GUI recognizes my LinkSYS PCMCIA nic, and will connect to my home AP if it is in OPEN mode. But I cannot connect in 128bit WEP mode, hmmm!  How??
[02:16] <marltu> zircx: that's some hacked XP version ?:)
[02:16] <graham> luci3n thankyou for your help very mutch appreciated
[02:16] <grndslm> redDEADresolve:  type in "/join #beryl"
[02:16] <graham> have you a msn hotmail account??
[02:17] <Luci3n> graham once you install the driver make sure you connect to the correct DNS server <IP_ADDRESS> normally
[02:17] <zircx> marltu, yes, bare minimal, it's had majority of it taken out ..
[02:17] <Luci3n> graham no problem hope it works ok
[02:17] <zircx> it's very bare bones, only 295mb of windows XP pro updated
[02:17] <marltu> zircx: so where's the problem? can't make iso?
[02:17] <Luci3n> graham thats <IP_ADDRESS> sorry typo
[02:17] <zircx> http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3464748&page=5
[02:17] <Luci3n> graham yes
[02:18] <zircx> no I have the iso.. but I have only installed vmware player from the respositories
[02:18] <zircx> it doesn't install the actual full workstation for vmware
[02:18] <pestilence> does anybody know if the internal bluetooth that dell sells (version 355) works in ubuntu?
[02:18] <graham> luci3n ok thank you, I would like too keep in touch for further help if that is ok and i can let you know how i go
[02:18] <pestilence> in particular, bluetooth mice
[02:18] <ezenu> isn't kernel-generic new with Edgy? What does it mean? should I stop using linux-k7? since upgrading to edgy made it so fglrx drivers don't load.
[02:19] <graham> luci3n if you have a hotmail account
[02:19] <Luci3n> graham ok i'll be here tomorrow daytime or definately the night
[02:19] <Luci3n> graham<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:19] <graham> luci3n ok i will be in touch and i can't thankyou enough for your help
[02:19] <zircx> sorry LjL ...
[02:20] <Luci3n> graham no probs good luck
[02:20] <^Ocean^> is it possible to tell whats useing a port on my computer, what process...  im trying to run something but its saying ports already in use
[02:20] <zircx> brainless, wasn't thinking.. doh..I think it's the opensource mentality.. you tend to think everything is free when it aint..
[02:21] <murph2481> murph2481
[02:21] <zircx> ok, I think I'll go and find out what VMX does..
[02:21] <h00t> can anyone tell me how can i see certain packages I have installed ... something like --dpkg-selection but with wildcards and searching
[02:21] <LjL> h00t: can't you use dpkg --get-selections and grep?
[02:21] <LjL> h00t: like dpkg --get-selections | grep somepackagename
[02:22] <LjL> anyway i'm sure dpkg has some option for that
[02:22] <iwkse> h00t: ahh, you're back here lol..you wasn't so nice with me in #gnome...you little asshole
[02:22] <NigelS> h00t: you mean like dpkg -l \*package\*
[02:22] <Kingsqueak> h00t: dpkg -l xorg*
[02:22] <Kingsqueak> yeah that
[02:22] <Kingsqueak> heh
[02:22] <h00t> you acused me of being indian and you are the one who don't speak english
[02:22] <gunfus> LjL: the page about CompilingSoftwar/e helps.. but I am not sure I understand it that well.. so if look into the config.log I see:
[02:22] <gunfus> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[02:23] <gunfus> so how do I find that library?
[02:23] <LjL> h00t, iwkse: stop now
[02:23] <iwkse> h00t: what?? so beying indian is something bad???
[02:23] <LjL> resolve your personal issues in a query please
[02:23] <LjL> this is not the place for that
[02:23] <Compy> Anyone here good at removing an array or mounting it? Every time I try to mkfs or mount an array it says the resource is busy or inuse yet fuser doesnt return anything on the device nor does mount
[02:23] <h00t> no ... but the principal is that you don't understand what I am trying to say and you are trying to tell me that I have a problem w/ the language ...
[02:24] <iwkse> h00t: you haven't explained nothing..thats the problem
[02:24] <h00t> ok let's try it here and see if everyone else will understand
[02:24] <gunfus> LjL:  I am not sure I understand it that well.. so if look into the config.log I see:
[02:24] <murph2481> is there a way to get sound juicer to connect to CDDB for Audio CD Information?
[02:24] <gunfus> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[02:24] <gunfus> so how do I find that library?
[02:24] <zircx> erm that easyvmx is pretty impressive
[02:24] <NigelS> I wonder why he wanted him to explain nothing
[02:25] <LjL> gunfus: i'm not sure honestly, hold on
[02:25] <gunfus> LjL: okay.. I am hold
[02:26] <h00t> LjL ... what's your problem you are running this place tighter than anchovie's cunt
[02:26] <zircx> lol
[02:26] <LjL> gunfus, have you installed build-essential yet? the library you need seems to be in there
[02:26] <Hobbsee> LjL: more bots?
[02:26] <gunfus> LjL:  no.. the page never said to install it
[02:26] <gunfus> ohh sorry it did
[02:26] <gunfus> hehe
[02:27] <gunfus> I just missed that first paragraph
[02:27] <LjL> gunfus: it's the most important thing that it says ;)
[02:28] <gunfus> yeah.. I reckon.. that.. but I tend to skim through first paragraph really really fast
[02:28] <gunfus> first pargraph are intros
[02:28] <LjL> heh not always
[02:28] <gunfus> LjL: I figure heheh
[02:29] <grndslm> after a "modprobe dri", i'm getting a:  "FATAL: Module dri not found"...how do i install it??  all the xserver-xorg-video-i810 and intel drivers are installed
[02:29] <gunfus> LjL: Sorry about that dude
[02:29] <LjL> gunfus: np
[02:29] <gunfus> LjL: Things are working fine noe.. :D
[02:29] <zircx> well spank me with a wooden-damn-spoon.. that was easy than I thought..
[02:29] <Cpudan80> Ok everybody - need some help
[02:29] <zircx> actually, that was too bloody easy ..
[02:30] <Cpudan80> I am a Suse 10.1 user
[02:30] <Cpudan80> but -- Suse has been misbehaving lately...
[02:30] <LjL> zircx: then try compiling qemu from scratch and getting the kqemu module to work intstead
[02:30] <Cpudan80> I am thinking of switching to a different distro...
[02:30] <iwkse> Cpudan80: :)
[02:30] <apokryphos> misbehaving?
[02:30] <icepack> how has suse been misbehaving
[02:30] <Cpudan80> hmm - well - it wont wake-on-lan
[02:30] <zircx> LjL, is that a little more difficult, I've used qemu before but it was a little slow, I was just surprised how simple it was to create that virtual block to do an install for player..
[02:31] <Cpudan80> Its built in package manager that I uninstalled keeps reappearing....
[02:31] <iwkse> icepack: ..giving ass to m$
[02:31] <LjL> zircx, i was sarcastic :)
[02:31] <Cpudan80> iwkse: LOL!!!!!
[02:31] <icepack> iwkse: hahah
[02:31] <Cpudan80> Ok - so - I need some advice
[02:31] <zircx> here I was thinking that I was going to have to install the full workstation for vmware
[02:31] <LjL> zircx: it's slow because it emulates the CPU, while vmware uses it natively
[02:31] <Cpudan80> What are some ubuntu pros?
[02:31] <LjL> !ask
[02:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:31] <apokryphos> Cpudan80: take a look at http://ubuntu.com :)
[02:32] <Cpudan80> Yeah - I looked there... I am looking for some first hand experience
[02:32] <LjL> zircx: nah, well, workstation gives you some advantages, but the player is fine for a lot of stuff
[02:32] <Cpudan80> Does it support Wake-On-Lan?
[02:32] <Compy> Anyone here good at removing an array or mounting it? Every time I try to mkfs or mount an array it says the resource is busy or inuse yet fuser doesnt return anything on the device nor does mount
[02:32] <Cpudan80> Suse doesn't
[02:32] <apokryphos> Cpudan80: it's all first hand there. The people writing the website use ubuntu :P
[02:32] <Cpudan80> oh - hmm
[02:32] <stalefries> Cpudan80: there's a howto for wakeonlan
[02:32] <apokryphos> Cpudan80: did you ask in the channel there?
[02:32] <Cpudan80> apokryphos: In the suse channel?
[02:32] <Cpudan80> Yes
[02:33] <iter> Cpudan80: all you need to know is apt-get
[02:33] <Cpudan80> They directed me to the Ubuntu tutorial....
[02:33] <iter> Cpudan80: that alone is worth its weight in gold
[02:33] <Cpudan80> apt-get?
[02:33] <Cpudan80> Is that the ubuntu package manager?
[02:33] <iter> yep
[02:33] <iter> it chowns
[02:33] <Cpudan80> Ok -- now - the real question
[02:33] <cheesy> can someone tell me where i can get help for CSS ?
[02:33] <iwkse> Cpudan80: synaptic is similar to yast
[02:33] <Cpudan80> My home dir is on its own partition
[02:33] <apokryphos> cheesy: #css
[02:33] <Cpudan80> Can I format all but that one?
[02:34] <Cpudan80> And not loose the data?
[02:34] <apokryphos> yes
[02:34] <iter> I would save /etc/ too
[02:34] <apokryphos> (as in all distros)
[02:34] <Cpudan80> etc?
[02:34] <Lovloss> im having a problem with "chown -R". For some reason when i run it on this folder, not all the folders inside are affected
[02:34] <Cpudan80> I have nothing in there
[02:34] <iter> hah
[02:34] <iter> I'm pretty sure there is something in /etc
[02:34] <Lovloss> "sudo chown -R lovloss /home/lovloss/Desktop/b" should do it right?
[02:34] <rioghal> Lovloss, what is the exact comand youre using?
[02:34] <Lovloss> thats the command
[02:35] <Lovloss> the folder is b, it sits on my desktop
[02:35] <grndslm> after a "modprobe dri", i'm getting a:  "FATAL: Module dri not found"...how do i install it??  the xserver-xorg-video-i810, the xserver-xorg-video-intel, and the libgl1-mesa-dri packages are all installed
[02:36] <rioghal> Lovloss, try: sudo chown -R lovloss:lovloss /home/lovloss/Desktop/b
[02:36] <cheesy> thanks apokryphos
[02:36] <green_earz> cheesy: http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/structure.html#pseudo
[02:36] <CheWaka> somebody speak spanish?
[02:36] <Lovloss> still says i dont have permissions
[02:36] <iwkse> huh..grndalm...so yo have a intel 915GM card..casually?
[02:37] <LjL> !es | CheWaka
[02:37] <ubotu> CheWaka: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:38] <darkbishop> what is the player tat i can u to play real player file?
[02:38] <CheWaka> thks
[02:38] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell darkbishop about realplayer | darkbishop, you have a private message from Ubotu
[02:38] <Lovloss> isnt that bizarre rioghal ?
[02:39] <Lovloss> its worked before
[02:39] <rioghal> Lovloss, yes, that has always worked for me.. i dont understand it
[02:39] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: you didn't mess around with 'chattr' did you?  try running lsattr on the files that didn't change
[02:39] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: compare the output with a 'normal' file
[02:40] <stelt> Where's the hash to check the ISO with?
[02:40] <Lovloss> i didnt touch chattr or even know what it is.
[02:40] <Lovloss> what the!
[02:40] <zircx> erm , damn it's burning all my cpu
[02:40] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: for a plain file, lsattr should output all dashes
[02:40] <bimberi> stelt: md5sum's are availabe at the download page
[02:40] <Cpudan80_> Alright -- sorry about dropping out
[02:40] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: if you see anything else there, it has special attributes
[02:40] <Lovloss> i did it with a simple permission change outside of root
[02:40] <Cpudan80_> My power went out
[02:40] <Cpudan80_> Thank you dominion power
[02:40] <Lovloss> i just selected everything , went to permissions and changed "read only" to "read and write"
[02:41] <murph2481> is there a way to get sound juicer to connect to CDDB for Audio CD Information?
[02:41] <Lovloss> and all the locks went away
[02:41] <Cpudan80_> Ok - a couple other questions
[02:41] <Cpudan80_> 1: Does ubuntu support VNC (as a built in thing like Suse?)
[02:41] <Cpudan80_> 2: Why is the distro only one CD? Suse's was 5?
[02:41] <rioghal> i cant get over how nice this window manager looks.. thanks to whomever packaged it for ubuntu
[02:42] <Pelo> Cpudan80,  the distro isn'T one cd it's 7 cd , or 1 dvd,  but you can install from the first cd and get the rest online
[02:42] <LjL> Cpudan80_: there is a VNC client shipped by default, and also a VNC server that shares your user's desktop
[02:42] <Lovloss> now how can i chown so that the folders inside wont just change permissions to me, but also allow reading and writing?
[02:42] <Cpudan80_> ok thanks
[02:42] <simmerz> has anyone got a prism 3 card working with ubuntu and psk? I can only seem to get it to deal with WEP
[02:42] <Lovloss> they changed the owner to me, but as "access files"
[02:43] <ladydoor> so I was wondering two things: (1) is it possible to install the gnus from the repos, but only have it compile itself for emacs, not xemacs (i have both installed at present, so as to try out xemacs for a change)
[02:43] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: you want permissions for who for read/write, for any user?
[02:43] <Lovloss> well im the only user
[02:43] <Lovloss> so... lovloss is fine
[02:43] <Cpudan80_> ok -- well unless Suse decides to behave itself - quick - I will move over
[02:43] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: o.k.   chmod 644 file.txt  makes that file read/write for you
[02:43] <slicky> are there any linux warez torrent sites where i can get the latest version of Cedega ?
[02:43] <rioghal> Lovloss, you need chmod: chmod -R a+rw  will make it readable/writable (rw) to everyone (a)
[02:43] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: and readable for anyone else
[02:44] <icepack> slicky: btjunkie.com
[02:44] <ladydoor> (2) does the dapper->edgy upgrade work in X, and if so, do i need to stop my applications (screen, xterm, emacs) in order to successfully perform it?
[02:44] <simmerz> is it the hardware that doesn't support wpa or is it software?
[02:44] <zircx> chown and permissions are two different things
[02:44] <Lovloss> woah woah... so what would be an example of the command i might run on this folder to recursively change those permissions?
[02:44] <Lovloss> because thats all confusing looking @.@
[02:44] <slicky> icepack: thanks
[02:44] <simmerz> Lovloss: chmod -R a+rw
[02:44] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: are there subdirectories or just files?
[02:44] <Pelo> ladydoor,  the update didn'T work well for me ( and a few others)  I recommend a back up of the home folder and a fresh install
[02:45] <Lovloss> subdirectories by the ton
[02:45] <Lovloss> ok let me try...
[02:45] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: o.k. you need to do this    find /path/to/b -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[02:45] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: that fixes dirs
[02:45] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: o.k. you need to do this    find /path/to/b -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[02:45] <ladydoor> Pelo: well, i've got a separate /home partition...i was hoping to avoid a fresh install because it's a lot of work to get a usable system after a fresh install
[02:45] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: that fixes the files
[02:45] <ladydoor> *for me
[02:46] <Lovloss> actually
[02:46] <ladydoor> Pelo: do you know if it's possible to somehow make a record of what's installed at present (from the repos at any rate, i've got the source end covered) and just have apt install all that?
[02:46] <Lovloss> chmod -R a+rw /home/lovloss/Desktop/b   worked
[02:46] <Pelo> ladydoor,  I'm a bit of a noob (6 months) this was my first update and it screwed up,  you may be able to get it to work right, also enough ppl have had problems they may have fixed it
[02:46] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: except it isn't the same effect, just note that
[02:47] <Lovloss> what do you mean?
[02:47] <ladydoor> Pelo: fair enough. thanks anyway!
[02:47] <Pelo> ladydoor,  to answer your latest question,  I don'T know
[02:47] <Kingsqueak> dir permissions are something you need to thing about a bit differently at times
[02:47] <malt> anyone know any dynamic dns clients that works with ubuntu linux with domain register namecheap.com?
[02:47] <Lovloss> but i can access all the files now
[02:48] <simmerz> Kingsqueak: assuming the directories are already rwxr-xr-x (755) then a+rw will fix the files so that they can be accessed
[02:48] <NigelS> ladydoor: dpkg -l | grep ii will output all currently installed packages
[02:48] <simmerz> depending on your security, you may want u+rw or g+rw instead.
[02:48] <Lovloss> i already made the folders accessible with chown
[02:48] <Aragorn> hi at all!
[02:48] <Kingsqueak> simmerz: a+rw allows anyone to rwx that dir right?
[02:48] <green_earz> malt: aptitude show no-ip
[02:48] <simmerz> Kingsqueak: only rw, but dirs are by default +x
[02:48] <zircx> Lovloss, , Kingsqueak is providing you with the correct syntax for proper permissions, the files are much different to folder permissions
[02:49] <Lovloss> but Kingsqueak, they are set with *me* as owner
[02:49] <Kingsqueak> simmerz: right so other users can create files in his dir now, that was all the point I was making
[02:49] <Aragorn> can anyone help me with the configuration of a router?
[02:49] <green_earz> malt: http://www.no-ip.com/
[02:49] <simmerz> Kingsqueak: with 777 on the dirs and 666 on the files, yes.
[02:49] <Lovloss> but your right, it seems anyone can access my files
[02:49] <Kingsqueak> simmerz: it's just sloppier
[02:49] <malt> green_earz: i already have a domain
[02:49] <zircx> Lovloss, directories and files permission wise should be treated differently..
[02:49] <Lovloss> im confused
[02:50] <Kingsqueak> simmerz: no doubt it works, just not the , erm best discipline to get in a habit of
[02:50] <simmerz> Lovloss, you actually want to chmod -R o-w now to remove world access
[02:50] <simmerz> Kingsqueak: indeed
[02:50] <Kingsqueak> I deal with developers all day that never learned permissions ;-)
[02:50] <gdb> Directories need execute (+x) in order to be able to enter them.
[02:50] <zircx> for security wise i'd run with Kingsqueak's syntax, for generic i'd run with simmerz
[02:50] <green_earz> malt: you can use your own domain at no-ip
[02:51] <simmerz> Lovloss, if you also want to stop members of your user group associated with the files from writing, you should use g-w (you can join the two together with chmod -R og-w
[02:51] <iwkse> After i saw this http://youtube.com/watch?v=G3p8IBNNd88
[02:51] <iwkse> maybe i'll install beryl..:)
[02:51] <malt> green_earz: its client work with linux?
[02:51] <simmerz> if you want to stop them reading as well, add a 'r' after the -
[02:51] <ladydoor> NigelS: interesting...could i then somehow use that to get apt-get to install all of those?
[02:51] <Lovloss> well right now only my login an access the files
[02:51] <Lovloss> the -R o-w worked
[02:52] <Lovloss> Just fyi guys, im the only one accessing this machine. security = hackers
[02:52] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: all that babbling was that basically all the options are 'right' if you want what they produced ;-)
[02:52] <Kingsqueak> Lovloss: play with permissions just to get used to them
[02:52] <Lovloss> okay
[02:52] <Lovloss> i think its fine now. For non-lovloss people it says 'list files only'
[02:52] <LjL> Lovloss, *in your home directory*, not randomly in the filesystem
[02:52] <green_earz> malt: the no-ip client should be in your package list, apt-cache search no-ip
[02:52] <Kingsqueak> LjL: lol yeah, thanks, good point
[02:53] <Lovloss> i didnt mess with my file system, dont worry ^_^
[02:53] <Lovloss> chown /   would do some bad stuff huh
[02:53] <malt> green_earz: nope
[02:53] <malt> green_earz: I didn't find nothing
[02:54] <malt> malt@malt-server:~$ apt-cache search no-ip
[02:54] <malt> malt@malt-server:~$
[02:54] <beasty> lol
[02:54] <icepack> malt: sources updated?
[02:54] <Lovloss> I stay away form anything outside of /home unless its under /media when im looking at another unmounted drive
[02:54] <Lovloss> and at that point i mount it
[02:54] <zircx> Lovloss, it's just a good proper habits to get use to, it's like washing your hands after you take a piss and eating food afterwards.. some people would take a piss with food in their mouths others would wash first , not dry and then eat, whilst the proper way to go about it would be to, eat first, then take a piss and then dry your hands properly.. it's just good practice for doing things correctly the first time
[02:54] <Lovloss> seems to me that's a good rule of thumb
[02:55] <malt> icepack: should be, i runned the upgrade command and update
[02:55] <Lovloss> got you, thanks =)
[02:55] <Lovloss> bye guys, thansk again! ^_^
[02:55] <dubious> hey ubuntu folks
[02:55] <dubious> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop
[02:56] <dubious> and i'm trying to get my wireless to work
[02:56] <Kingsqueak> zircx: lol I need to bring you into management meetings
[02:56] <dubious> how do i see what wirless connections are available?
[02:56] <dubious> i tried typing it in along with the wep key but no luck
[02:57] <blameless> is your wifi card even identified?
[02:57] <dubious> yes
[02:57] <simmerz> so can i get a PRISM based card working with WPA? its not prism54.
[02:57] <dubious> i went to uh network in the admin
[02:57] <soulfire41> Hello...I burned the Ubuntu IA64 ISO to CD, and the installer came up..but whenb it tried to load components from the cd, it then said cd drive contains a cd that cannot be used for the install...
[02:58] <zillabox> i got this message in my dhcpd server - dhcpd self-test failed
[02:58] <zillabox> i need help. im working with a new dhcp server
[02:58] <zillabox> anyone, please
[02:59] <zircx> Kingsqueak, only if they pay me for my proper consultation
[02:59] <zircx> lol
[02:59] <zillabox> should i put 1st <IP_ADDRESS> in eth0 using ifconfig?
[02:59] <zillabox> i got this message in my dhcpd server - dhcpd self-test failed
[02:59] <zillabox> i need help. im working with a new dhcp server
[02:59] <simmerz> anyone got a hostap card working fine with wpa????
[02:59] <zillabox> anyone, please
[02:59] <zillabox> should i put 1st <IP_ADDRESS> in eth0 using ifconfig?
[02:59] <soulfire41> Is there a reason that causes the cd install to say the cd cannot be used for the install?
[02:59] <dubious> maybe the cd is scratched?
[03:00] <soulfire41> hmm
[03:00] <zircx> erm damn i think this vmplayer is sucking the life out of my system.. damn it might have something to do with x / beryl ..
[03:00] <soulfire41> actually.....it has a couple little tiny ones
[03:00] <dubious> did you run the cd check thing on the livecd bootup options?
[03:00] <dubious> it checks all the cd sectors
[03:00] <dubious> i think
[03:01] <Frankle> hello
[03:02] <kayxray> soulfire41, are you using a rewritable?
[03:02] <confusco> can anybody tell me why I'm getting an "Authentication required" dialog box accessing a Windows share on the network, even though there is no password set? what do I do?
[03:02] <Frankle> can I paste an image here? My ubuntu becomes unresponsive at what seems to be at the desktop
[03:02] <kayxray> confusco: don't supply a password
[03:02] <confusco> doesn't work
[03:03] <confusco> and what am I supposed to use for the username?
[03:03] <Frankle> Can someone please take a look at this and let me know if there's any obvious reason for it? http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7268/1122061941ll1.jpg
[03:03] <kayxray> For me, I've always used my username for the username (but anything works for me) and a blank pass.
[03:03] <Frankle> This is running ubuntu from DVD, I've not yet been able to install as it becomes un responsive there
[03:03] <kyawzin> Does anybody know this error when installing Ubuntu "Buffer I/O error device hdd Ubuntu logical block"?
[03:04] <Jordan_U> Frankle: How much memory does the computer have?
[03:04] <simmerz> could be any number of things! ranging from a dodgy dvd burn, to iffy memory
[03:04] <confusco> Frankle, maybe you should run the "check this cd for defects"
[03:04] <Frankle> 2gb Jordan_U
[03:04] <kayxray> Weird pic, Frankle.
[03:04] <Frankle> had to use my phone, sorry for quality :P
[03:04] <confusco> boot from CD and do the "check cd for defects"
[03:04] <Frankle> the image in the middle is distorted which is weird
[03:04] <Frankle> I'll try that thanks
[03:05] <Frankle> Hopfully I can use my keyboard, it seems unresponsive also...I unfortunately don't have any other keyboards to use
[03:05] <Frankle> I have to wait for the timer to count down
[03:05] <abyssinia> Does anyone know i install the nesses but i can't start it
[03:05] <confusco> what timer?
[03:05] <confusco> oh
[03:05] <confusco> on that options screen?
[03:06] <Frankle> yes
[03:06] <confusco> what keyboard do you have?
[03:06] <Frankle> It's a microsoft USB keyboard
[03:06] <confusco> hm
[03:06] <txx2> guys, can someone please send me a default xorg.conf please?
[03:06] <Frankle> I was told to try holding left and right for 3 seconds
[03:06] <cmweb> Im only in here to keep my bot out
[03:07] <simmerz> txx2: have you tried running X --config as root?
[03:08] <txx2> simmerz,  I'm currently using mepis becaue I'm basically locked out of ubuntu. I edited the xorg.conf and it kicks me out every time.
[03:08] <simmerz> txx2: what are the errors?
[03:08] <Frankle> Any idea if using it on a DVD could cause it to become unresponsive?
[03:08] <Stormx2>  UUID=44A6-9501 /media/Stuff vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 <-- in /etc/fstab. I want this to be world writeable (at the moment the permissions are drwxrwx--- ). How do i change this line to reflect this?
[03:08] <gop> !audigy
[03:08] <txx2> simmerz,  can't remember, but I get a blue box in the middle saying that something has gone wrong
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audigy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <simmerz> best thing to do is to pastebin your xorg.conf file and let someone help you fix it. i doubt its a major thing
[03:08] <gop> !audgiy
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audgiy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <Stormx2> gop: /msg the bot.
[03:09] <simmerz> txx2: need to know that "something
[03:09] <ladydoor> Stormx2: change umask to 000 or 111 (111 if you don't want any execute permissions)
[03:09] <txx2> it's about the xorg/video
[03:09] <w3ccv> txx2:  I've got a file ready
[03:09] <Stormx2> ladydoor: Thanks.
[03:09] <gop> how come I am getting NO sound
[03:09] <simmerz> txx2: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:09] <ladydoor> Stormx2: umask is kind of the opposite of chmod as far as the numbering system goes
[03:09] <gop> from my sound card a creative audigy card
[03:09] <ladydoor> Stormx2: np
[03:09] <txx2> simmerz,  for some strange reason, mepis doesn't like mounting ubuntu
[03:09] <Stormx2> ladydoor: heh okay. Then mount -d right?
[03:10] <ladydoor> Stormx2: i guess so
[03:10] <simmerz> txx2: is ubuntu installed on an ext3 partition?
[03:10] <Stormx2> ladydoor: Oh I think its  -a
[03:10] <txx2> w3ccv,  could you host this temporarily?.. (the file) looks like it's not going to send. Sorry for the trouble.
[03:10] <txx2> simmerz,  yeah
[03:10] <simmerz> txx2: mount -t ext3 /dev/hdX /mnt/ubuntu (or wherever)
[03:11] <simmerz> txx2: if you're using SATA then /dev/sdX
[03:11] <ladydoor> Stormx2: i honestly haven't looked at the manual in a while, but that's probably it. skimming just now i didn't see a -d option at all
[03:11] <simmerz> and that will give you access to the drive
[03:11] <txx2> simmerz,  using laptop, it's ide.
[03:11] <simmerz> txx2: ok. so probably hda1 then
[03:12] <Stormx2> ladydoor: Still no good.
[03:12] <txx2> it keeps saying "mount: mount point /mnt/ubuntu does not exist
[03:12] <txx2> "
[03:12] <Stormx2> ladydoor: Same permissions as before.
[03:12] <ArrenLex> txx2: mkdir /mnt/ubuntu
[03:12] <green_earz> gop: check what the driver should be > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[03:12] <Stormx2> ladydoor: I'll just reboot into windows for today... its not too important.
[03:12] <family> restricted formats
[03:12] <ladydoor> Stormx2: k...that's odd though, since that's s'posed to work :-(
[03:12] <family> what repos has the w32codecs ?
[03:12] <ladydoor> Stormx2: good luck
[03:13] <ArrenLex> !w32codecs
[03:13] <green_earz> gop: then lsmod and see if can see it
[03:13] <txx2> "mount: special device /dev/hd1 does not exist
[03:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:13] <txx2> "
[03:13] <Stormx2> ladydoor: it probably will after a reboot.
[03:13] <confusco> txx2, you still having problems?
[03:13] <txx2> confusco, yes
[03:13] <Stormx2> ladydoor: But its 2:15am and I have school tomorow, I cba with this XD
[03:13] <simmerz> Stormx2: you got the umask sorted out?
[03:13] <ladydoor> Stormx2: well, you don't have to reboot linux except for kernel upgrades
[03:13] <confusco> what did you edit in xorg.conf that made it not work?
[03:13] <ArrenLex> txx2: try /dev/hda1
[03:13] <tensor> how do i get the maximum capacity of a hard disk?
[03:13] <ladydoor> Stormx2: have a good day of school
[03:13] <Stormx2> I'll try, thanks for all the help!
[03:13] <simmerz> Stormx2: you want to change the umask to 000
[03:14] <confusco> tensor, explain
[03:14] <simmerz> 007 means that all 7 bits of the mask are removed.
[03:14] <Pelo> tensor,  if you are talkinga bout the swap , don't mess with it , it is very usefull
[03:14] <green_earz> tensor: you can tweek it up a bit with hdparm
[03:14] <ArrenLex> tensor: sudo fdisk -l | grep Disk
[03:14] <ladydoor> simmerz: stormx2 left
[03:14] <slicky> hey, i have some trubbels instaling wineCVS.. when i run the sh script it gives me an error : test: 18: ==: unexpected operator
[03:14] <slicky> InstallAOCedega.sh: 23: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[03:14] <slicky>         how can i fis this=?
[03:14] <txx2> wow ArrenLex  confusco  it works... ok, I'm checking the log file, thanks for all your help.. I miss ubuntu very much
[03:14] <ArrenLex> slicky: try "bash configure"
[03:14] <simmerz> ladydoor: a little too late
[03:15] <kupesoft> What are the good online FPS for ubuntulinux?
[03:15] <ladydoor> simmerz: sorry
[03:15] <ArrenLex> slicky: no configure scripts will be harmed in the running of that command.
[03:15] <Pelo> txx2,   and ubuntu misses you too
[03:15] <Jordan_U> Frankle: Does the caps lock light turn on when you press it? If so does ctrl+alt+F2 bring you to a terminal ( press ctrl+alt+F7 to get back ) ?
[03:15] <tensor> ArrenLex: thanks, that did it
[03:15] <tensor> bye peeps
[03:15] <ArrenLex> tensor: no problem.
[03:15] <levander> I've got a new network card in my box.  How do I tell dapper to re-detect my new network card?
[03:16] <slicky> ArrenLex:  hm, just gen another err msg.. file cant be found
[03:16] <slicky> get*
[03:16] <ArrenLex> slicky: then... what sh file are you trying to run?
[03:16] <simmerz> txx2: the Xorg.0.log will tell you what is wrong when it tries to run x.org. resolve that error, and you'll be away
[03:16] <confusco> does anybody have an idea why my game is quite a bit slower in Linux than in Win? I've installed the nvidia driver correctly and direct rendering is on.
[03:16] <slicky> ArrenLex: WineCVS.sh
[03:16] <txx2> simmerz,  I have the log, where is that website to post clipboards?
[03:17] <ArrenLex> slicky: then run "bash WineCVS.sh" I guess.
[03:17] <simmerz> txx2: rafb.net/paste
[03:17] <family> where is a good place to get a source list for Edgy ?
[03:17] <slicky> ArrenLex:  oh it worked :D thanks
[03:17] <ladydoor> confusco: are you emulating it with something? that's going to eat memory...
[03:17] <malt> anyone here run a dynamic dns client on there linux box?
[03:17] <ArrenLex> family: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[03:17] <ArrenLex> family: all you need
[03:17] <w3ccv> Txx2: the file can be found at http://mike.vorefamily.net/thewoodenradio/images/xorg.conf  get it soon, I'll kill it in a day or so
[03:18] <confusco> ladydoor, no
[03:18] <markstos> levander
[03:18] <txx2> w3
[03:18] <txx2> thanks got it
[03:18] <green_earz> family: run the command sudo apt-setup and pick a http mirror
[03:18] <levander> markstos: yeah?
[03:18] <txx2> http://rafb.net/paste/results/AUcPax19.html < my xorg.0.log
[03:19] <markstos> levander: check out the output of dmesg: I think it might be recognized automatically. It wasn't, I Take it?
[03:19] <simmerz> txx2: sort out those font dirs as a first thing. but they are warnings, not major
[03:19] <levander> markstos: it wasn't
[03:19] <txx2> simmerz,  Not a professional over here unfortunately :P
[03:19] <markstos> levander: did you google to check compatibility?
[03:20] <markstos> levander: I know that at least some wireless cards are automatically detected.
[03:20] <levander> markstos: i can get it to work manually loading a kernel module, but i want to use the ubuntu utilities to have the system load that kernel module every time i boot
[03:21] <markstos> levendar: ah. Add the module name to /etc/modules
[03:21] <markstos> levander: I don't know of there is a GUI way to do that... I'm fairly new to Ubuntu and haven't needed to do that before.
[03:21] <levander> markstos: okay, thanks
[03:22] <simmerz> txx2: what is the exact error you get?
[03:22] <levander> markstos: i was hoping to learn something about ubuntu commands to do it for me, but screw it, i give up
[03:22] <levander> markstos: thanks for help
[03:22] <markstos> levander: you are welcome.
[03:22] <txx2> I am not sure, but as it starts to load.. about 5 seconds in on the black loading screen, it haults then says something about restarting. If you want I can go try it again and take down the stuff it says to me
[03:23] <simmerz> txx2: might be useful
[03:23] <txx2> ok brb
[03:23] <confusco> does anybody have an idea why my game is running slow? I've installed the nvidia driver correctly and direct rendering is on.
[03:23] <Novagenesis> hello...got a minor worry...just wanna make sure the world won't end
[03:23] <Novagenesis> I can't get into linux (any distro) without using the noapic boot option
[03:23] <Novagenesis> i'm currently installing ubuntu
[03:23] <Novagenesis> should I do anything to resolve this....is this a big deal?
[03:24] <Novagenesis> i have a very new motherboard, budget high-end Abit
[03:24] <cheatersrealm> can you use the edgy livecd to install with raid?
[03:24] <cheatersrealm> (software)
[03:25] <Novagenesis> I have googled alot and haven't found a solid answer to noapic problems
[03:25] <simmerz> Novagenesis: just add it to your grub line after the install
[03:25] <Novagenesis> simmerz: yeah, but i mean, is that safe? is there a cost to doing that?
[03:25] <Novagenesis> I don't know what APIC is to know if it's a big deal
[03:25] <Beryllium> What's Ubuntu's GUI package manager called?
[03:25] <LjL> Beryllium: Synaptic
[03:25] <Novagenesis> Beryllium:  Syn....what Ljl said
[03:25] <markstos> Novagenesis: ACPI is a power management system, most useful on laptops.
[03:26] <Pelo> Beryllium,  gtk ?
[03:26] <Pelo> oh, nvm
[03:26] <LjL> :)
[03:26] <Novagenesis> oh, I take it that there's no need for it on a Desktop then! woohoo
[03:26] <Beryllium> could someone do a quick check and see if it has Stanford's Folding client there? I have a friend in a far away land who is trying to learn Ubuntu, and I don
[03:26] <Beryllium> I don't  have much experience with it
[03:26] <markstos> Novagenesis: It's not necessary. 'apm' can also be used, or neither on a desktop or server.
[03:26] <Pelo> Beryllium,   no experience necessary
[03:26] <simmerz> Novagenesis: not that i know of. best is to google it.
[03:27] <Pelo> Beryllium,  system > admin > synaptic
[03:27] <Novagenesis> ok, problem 2 on my list is that I installed nvidia, and nvidia read as the driver... nvidia's manager tools worked just fine...but i wasn't getting any accelleration for my 7600 GT OC card
[03:27] <Novagenesis> i can't do much re: that anyway because i'm mid-install for a fresh start (so sue me, I tried suse a bit, and flopped worse)
[03:27] <Beryllium> thank you pelo :)
[03:27] <markstos> Beryllium: For basic app installs, "gnome-app-install" is simpler and nicer, and also installed by default.
[03:27] <Beryllium> synaptic isn't installed by default?
[03:28] <markstos> Beryllium: They both are.
[03:28] <Beryllium> awesome :) thanks
[03:28] <markstos> gnome-app-install is simpler and easier. synaptic is advanced.
[03:28] <Novagenesis> anyone know what's up when proprietary nvidia drivers are flashing the logo, and running X, but no accelleration is occuring?
[03:28] <Novagenesis> ftr, I used automatix to install them
[03:29] <Pelo> Beryllium,  the only real diff is that gnome app is a bit more noob orientted while synaptic list all indivitual packages
[03:29] <Beryllium> Novagenesis: Perchance, are you running an oddly-designated chipset? Like a mobile one, or an OEM one?
[03:29] <Novagenesis> neither... BFG standard 7600 GT OC
[03:29] <gop> hey
[03:29] <Novagenesis> maybe the OC is an issue?
[03:30] <simmerz> Novagenesis: you may need to set RenderAccel to true in xorg.conf
[03:30] <gop> how come I get no sound via my sound card pci audigy card
[03:30] <Beryllium> The OC sucks. I can't watch that show.
[03:30] <Novagenesis> ok, i'll give that a try soon as i got the install done and run automatix for it
[03:30] <Pelo> Beryllium,  yeah you sound more like a "one tree hill" kind of guy
[03:31] <Beryllium> try "The Unit"
[03:31] <Beryllium> or, for that matter, "Dexter"
[03:31] <Novagenesis> Beryllium: for that matter, I don't know any of those shows...just realize dyou're talking tv....I don't watch tv :)
[03:31] <gop> I get no sound what so ever
[03:31] <Pelo> I'll confess to finding dexter oddly entertaining
[03:31] <simmerz> Novagenesis: there may be some others, worth reading the nvidia release notes and docs
[03:31] <Milos_SD> hello all...
[03:31] <Novagenesis> simmerz: good point
[03:31] <Novagenesis> ill confess to finding Neurotically Yours very entertaining
[03:31] <dope> how do i give my login root permissions
[03:32] <Beryllium> Pelo: One of the most hilarious things about the show is that the opening credits tend to disturb me on a far deeper level than the episode content itself.
[03:32] <mcrandello> dope: sudo -i in a console
[03:32] <gop> !sound
[03:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:32] <mcrandello> dope: type exit when you are done
[03:32] <dope> well how do i make it always have root permissions
[03:32] <Milos_SD> why all drop down menu are behind flash when viewing web page in linux?
[03:32] <dope> so i'm not typing sudo apt-get install * all the time
[03:32] <mcrandello> create a root login and login as root :)
[03:32] <dope> i can't give my login root?
[03:33] <mcrandello> sudo -i will work until you type exit
[03:33] <dope> yea i know
[03:33] <mcrandello> so you don't have to type sudo at all after that
[03:33] <Milos_SD> I have that problem even on adobe.com web site...
[03:33] <preaction> dope, the idea is you don't WANT your normal users to have root permissions always...
[03:33] <Novagenesis> there's a faq somewhere...i have no clue where, but I kinda like it this way..easy to keep from screwing up
[03:33] <Lovloss> hmm, how can i get access to gparted?
[03:33] <dope> oh
[03:33] <dope> :/