[03:01] <cynikal> grndslm: sure let me know how it turns out
[03:01] <sethk> thinkl, you don't bring up a file explorer and click on the html files?
[03:02] <nbh758> you have access to all repositories, may will be downloaded as you select them
[03:02] <azureal> jordan what does phigh do?
[03:02] <UKMatt> What does it mean when "%U" and things like that are tacked on to the end of commands?
[03:02] <sethk> thinkl, I'm not a windows expert, there are other ways to do it in windows.
[03:02] <meatwad64> i have universe enbaled
[03:02] <e_machinist> Poseidon: just save yourself some trouble and buy two hard drives.
[03:02] <sethk> thinkl, what you described sounds to me as if you had the files mounted, but as I said, I'm not a windows expert
[03:02] <thinkl> sethk: There's a little arrow-y button thing in windows that opens it up. I then have to enter a name and password and I can save directly to the webserver from Word or Frontpage or whatever.
[03:02] <dave> Poseidon , if you have a good amount of memory , i highly recommend Vmware
[03:02] <Pelo> Poseidon,   when instaling you will be asked to partition the drive,   ubu should let you specify part of your hdd for ubu,  then it will install  grub wiich will let you select which  OS to boot at startup
[03:02] <sethk> thinkl, it isn't going to be as seemless in linux as that.
[03:02] <jordan> azureal: It only asks high priority questions.
[03:02] <dave> i run vmware on linux and just fire it up when i need something windows only
[03:03] <Megaqwerty> Pelo: nope. Can't figure it out.
[03:03] <thinkl> sethk: I'm not a windows expert either ;) I'm just trying to figure how this stuff works -- it's not ftp or ssh or ntp...
[03:03] <azureal> jordan, what do you propose I reconfigure?
[03:03] <grndslm> cynikal...wow, setting up samba wasy incredibly easy...now how do i connect the windows machine to my local ip?
[03:03] <ubuntu_> I accidently fried my mbr(as in deleted it completely) I'm booted to ubuntu live. how do I restore grub/mbr?
[03:03] <sethk> thinkl, you can use open office to edit the files, similarly to the way you do it with word, but you'll have to move the files from and to the web server, or remotely mount them
[03:03] <UKMatt> What does it mean when "%U" and things like that are tacked on to the end of commands?
[03:03] <Pelo> Megaqwerty,  try searching the ubuntu forum for an answer
[03:03] <jordan> azureal: I don't know to be honest.
[03:03] <JoseStefan> !mbr > ubuntu_
[03:03] <Megaqwerty> Pelo: okay.
[03:03] <thinkl> sethk: Right -- I actually have a pretty good understanding of linux. What I don't know is what protocol one uses to access this webserver.
[03:03] <sethk> thinkl, once you mount them so they look local, you can edit them with open office.  but we are just talking about straight html here
[03:04] <sethk> thinkl, you can use nfs, you can use samba to mount
[03:04] <ubuntu_> !mbr
[03:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:04] <dave> anyone know anything about setting up xinerama ? there doesnt seem to be any settings anywhere
[03:04] <sethk> thinkl, or you can edit them on the server and point the display back at your workstation.
[03:04] <cynikal> grndslm: Yeah I love it :D   Either give your machine a static ip and connect using something like "smb://<IP_ADDRESS>" in a browser on your windows machine, or use your hostname, like "smb://pirat"
[03:04] <azureal> luckily aplay -l  outputs no soundcards... oh wow
[03:04] <timbobsteve> i am running OSX/Xubuntu on my ibook G3, but everytime I switch OS's the time is all out of whack because the previous OS has modified it. Any ideas on how to fix this? I searched the forums and found nothing related to macs and time.
[03:04] <cynikal> grndslm: if you are on a windows machine you would type "//<IP_ADDRESS>" or "//hostname"
[03:05] <e_machinist> Guess I'm just gonna have to put Edgy on here to get access to the newer stuff.
[03:05] <grndslm> cynikal...thanks, you're the man
[03:05] <thinkl> sethk: but I'm pretty sure this is different from a samba mount (I use that to mount our windows drives on our fileserver).
[03:05] <Poseidon> do you mean I have to save an empty partition for ubuntu ?
[03:05] <cynikal> grndslm: np :D
[03:05] <pumpkinhead> is there an easier way to get to a terminal besides applications>accessories>terminal
[03:06] <Vornotron> You can drag any icon from that whole menu onto the upper bar and it will stay there permanently.
[03:06] <abovett> pumpkinhead: You can put it on the panel or assign a shortcut key
[03:06] <MERLIN_MONROE> somebody can help me?
[03:06] <jramsey> any pointers on the internel linux disk block i/o system documentation? i've a special application that requires intercepting block read/write requests
[03:06] <pumpkinhead> tks abovett
[03:06] <sethk> thinkl, yes, it is, I'm thinking of ways you could handle it that would have a similar feel
[03:06] <thinkl> MERLIN_MONROE: ask your question
[03:06] <thinkl> sethk: Ah -- key point -- I don't control the server.
[03:07] <sethk> thinkl, although I'd be surprised if, under the covers, it isn't just a samba mount in windows, even if it doesn't look that way.
[03:07] <AlanHaggai|Sleep> How to copy a data from my Linux partition to an NTFS one?
[03:07] <thinkl> sethk: I've just been banging my head against a wall trying to figure out what the server is using to communicate with windows.
[03:07] <Music_Shuffle> pumpkinhead: or if you're on Gnome, just just alt-f2 and chcek the box labelled "Run in Terminal" xD
[03:07] <Music_Shuffle> just use*
[03:07] <sethk> thinkl, run a packet sniffer when you are editing, you'll find out quickly enough
[03:07] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Having issue with file permissions. The no amount of chmodding seems to stick. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot?
[03:07] <grndslm> cynikal...i tried to connect, but the user/pass didn't work
[03:07] <pumpkinhead> thanks musicshuffle
[03:08] <Rappermas> does anyone know of a tool that I can use to record a video of my desktop?
[03:08] <pumpkinhead> is there a gui filemanager you can run as root
[03:08] <AlanHaggai|Sleep> thinkl : How to copy a data from my Linux partition to an NTFS one?
[03:08] <jrib> Rappermas: istanbul is such a tool (when it decides to work)
[03:08] <Pelo> baxter_kylie,  what are you trying to do ?  you could user the terminal and launch  nautilus with  gksu nautilus
[03:08] <sethk> pumpkinhead, any file manager can be run as root
[03:08] <Rappermas> jrib: will take a look
[03:08] <MERLIN_MONROE> thinkl =/
[03:08] <rjm> hey
[03:08] <Pelo> pumpkinhead,  from the terminal   gksu  nautilus
[03:08] <cynikal> grndslm: hmm, you shouldn't need one
[03:09] <Rappermas> reason i ask is i'm trying to show off AIGLX
[03:09] <thinkl> AlanHaggai|Sleep: Have you successfully mounted an the NTFS partition?
[03:09] <pumpkinhead> thank you pelo and seth
[03:09] <grndslm> cynikal, will try again
[03:09] <spiderworm> anyone running up against the edgy cannot connect to pptp vpn problem?
[03:09] <AlanHaggai|Sleep> thinkl : yes. It automatically mounts my partition
[03:09] <rjm> my ubuntu dapper box updated itself while i was away.  when i got home and logged in, i no longer have sound in macromedia flash.
[03:09] <rjm> http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[03:09] <rjm> i tried this - didn't work
[03:09] <thinkl> AlanHaggai|Sleep: Then copying should be simple -- you can use your file manager or cp or what have you. What error are you getting when you try to copy?
[03:10] <jramsey> any pointers on the internel linux disk block i/o system documentation? i've a special application that requires intercepting block read/write requests
[03:10] <AlanHaggai|Sleep> thinkl : some message that the partitions are read only
[03:10] <cynikal> AlanHaggai|Sleep: If you want ntfs write support you can use the ntfs-3g driver. Here is a tutorial on how to set that up. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[03:10] <grndslm> cynikal...it definitely needs a user/pass... it won't let me hit ok without at least a username
[03:10] <Pelo> cynikal,  is it reliable ?
[03:11] <thinkl> AlanHaggai|Sleep: So the NTFS drives are being mounted read only. That could be because the computer that's sharing them is only allowing a read-only mount.
[03:11] <AlanHaggai|Sleep> thinkl : it's in my computer itself
[03:11] <cynikal> Pelo: Yes, I've been using it for months and transferring large and small files (even 4GB dvd's) without a single error
[03:11] <cynikal> Pelo: Unfortunately it could be much faster, I hope they will work on performance in the future
[03:11] <Pelo> cynikal,  thanks, I'll make a note
[03:12] <highneko> How good is this computer? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10079854&catid=10607&logon=&langid=EN
[03:12] <thinkl> AlanHaggai|Sleep: Sorry -- mixing up ntfs with nfs in my head.
[03:12] <cynikal> grndslm: strange, would you mind showing me what your /etc/samba/smb.conf file looks like?
[03:12] <TIger_IT> How can i enable udma7 mode? please........Ive tried in several ways!
[03:12] <AlanHaggai|Sleep> thinkl : no problem
[03:12] <Pelo> cynikal,  I use diskmounter right now and the write feature is not relaible so I only use it in read
[03:12] <thinkl> AlanHaggai|Sleep: IIRC, it is not safe to write to an NTFS drive with the linux driver.
[03:12] <sethk> TIger_IT, hdparm
[03:12] <Poseidon> is ubuntu available on laptop?
[03:12] <meatwad64> has anyone installed lame on edgy?
[03:12] <sethk> TIger_IT, you may also have to enable it in the machine's BIOS
[03:12] <AlanHaggai|Sleep> thinkl : why?
[03:12] <Rappermas> ntfs-3g can be used to write to NTFS
[03:12] <Pelo> TIger_IT,  look it up in the forum , maybe you'll find the answer there
[03:13] <tk_> Hi there... I have a question about swat : i have installed the package und have tryt to connect to swat http daemon with http://localhost:901 but i become a timeout , how can  i start the swat daemon if they are stopped ? can anyone help me ?
[03:13] <thinkl> AlanHaggai|Sleep: So it is likely disabled by default. I believe that writing to the drive could cause you trouble. Rappermas -- is ntfs-3g safe to use then?
[03:13] <cynikal> Pelo: yeah I understand. I was afraid of possibly corrupting my windows install, but my brother convinced me to use it and I'm glad I took the chance
[03:13] <TIger_IT> Pelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29818/
[03:13] <abovett> Poseidon: It'kll run on them - or do you want one with it preinstalled?
[03:13] <TIger_IT> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29818/
[03:13] <Rappermas> think: back when I had windows XP, it worked fine
[03:13] <TIger_IT> Some explanations are in spanish........but they are no too much!
[03:14] <Poseidon> abovett,sure
[03:14] <TaPiOn> Hi
[03:14] <AlanHaggai|Sleep> thanks cynikal , thinkl and Rappermas :)
[03:14] <sethk> TIger_IT, it's telling you the drive only goes to udma6, which is common.  In fact, many go only to 5
[03:14] <AlanHaggai|Sleep> will try it
[03:14] <Rappermas> anyway, the author claims that it fully works, just slower
[03:14] <baxter_kylie> Pelo: change executable files to 666 for shared code.
[03:14] <cynikal> course :)
[03:14] <TIger_IT> sethk: Im in udma2!!!!
[03:14] <TaPiOn> I search prog who can tell video's length ? pls
[03:14] <TIger_IT> sethk: Ive tried hdparm  -X udma7 /dev/hda
[03:14] <abovett> Poseidon: I think a few people are selling them but not sure who.
[03:14] <TIger_IT> sethk: and nothing!!
[03:14] <TaPiOn> I search prog who can tell me video's length ? pls
[03:14] <cynikal> Rappermas: and I agree with the author. I've been using it for a long time without problems, just wish they would work on the performance now heh
[03:15] <sethk> TIger_IT, the drive doesn't support 7, so nothing is what is supposed to happen
[03:15] <Yancho> whats the command to check the cpu usage pls ?
[03:15] <baxter_kylie> Pelo: Anytime I chmod (or even gksudo nautilis) the changes I make are accepted but not applied.
[03:15] <abovett> Poseidon: works well on most laptops I've tried though.
[03:15] <sethk> TIger_IT, the drive only supports 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6
[03:15] <sethk> TIger_IT, so use 6
[03:15] <Rappermas> cynikal: lol, true, i think they just decided it's good enough
[03:15] <TIger_IT> sethk:  its supported!!!
[03:15] <Poseidon> abovett,i have a version   is it too old?
[03:15] <Pelo> TIger_IT,  I don'T know how to solve your issue,  and no one else answered you so I suggested the forum
[03:15] <sethk> TIger_IT, the drive is telling the program it does not.  don't you see the list of supported DMA modes?
[03:15] <abovett> Poseidon: what is it?
[03:16] <Pelo> baxter_kylie,  I don'T know, I'm a noob at this myself
[03:16] <Poseidon> abovett ,v5.04
[03:16] <micah_c> there we go...
[03:16] <DanSchnell> How do i get the X log on the paste site?
[03:16] <abovett> Poseidon: It will but why not get a more up to date version - it'll work better.
[03:16] <TIger_IT> sethk:  DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
[03:16] <Pelo> baxter_kylie,  you might find an answer here http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[03:16] <ke-> MDMA :D
[03:17] <grndslm> cynikal, http://pastebin.ca/233663
[03:17] <Poseidon> abovett,i think so
[03:17] <TIger_IT> sethk:  BUT about UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 udma6
[03:17] <sethk> TIger_IT, I was looking at UDMA, but it is only showing you 0, 1, and 2 in MDMA, so what's your point?
[03:17] <grndslm> trying to copy my friend's music to my computer...if that matters
[03:17] <sethk> TIger_IT, yes, indeed, 6.  NOT 7.  6.  6.   not 7.   6.  got it?
[03:17] <TaPiOn> PLS
[03:17] <TIger_IT> sethk:  my point is......... WHY udma2 if I can use udma6 ...
[03:17] <TaPiOn> I search prog who can tell me video's length ? pls
[03:18] <TIger_IT> sethk:  ok...
[03:18] <sethk> TIger_IT, you told me you tried 7.  7 doesn't exist, so nothing happens.
[03:18] <sethk> TIger_IT, it isn't going to say, hey, I don't have 7, here's 6.
[03:18] <Rappermas> ok, i have a ridiculously easy question that i'm still wondering about--in beryl, how do i set a double click on the title bar to maximize the window instead of shading it?
[03:18] <TaPiOn> allo ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[03:18] <abovett> Poseidon: Either download edgy or dapper, or get CDs via ShipIt
[03:18] <whyameye> is it possible to access my samba server at work from home?
[03:18] <bhearsum> hi, i'm trying to do a spellcheck with openoffice 2.0 but it doesn't seem to find a dictionary. my locale is set to English (Canada) and i have myspell-en-gb installed but the spellcheck does not recognize words i _know_ are misspelled
[03:18] <TIger_IT> sethk:  sudo  hdparm  -X udma6 /dev/hda ............ and then again........... just udma2 !!!!
[03:18] <LjL> TaPiOn: please do NOT do that
[03:19] <DanSchnell> >	How do i get the X log on the paste site
[03:19] <pumpkinhead> i was using a game i really liked on fedora, but there is no ubuntu .rpm.  can i compile it from a binary
[03:19] <cynikal> grndslm: wow thats really weird, your file is missing a few things
[03:19] <TaPiOn> LjL please anser me
[03:19] <Sonic|Laptop> pumpkinhead, you can compile it from the source
[03:19] <TIger_IT> sethk: UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 udma6
[03:19] <LjL> !attitude | TaPiOn
[03:19] <ubotu> TaPiOn: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:19] <pumpkinhead> thanks sonic i don't know how but i'll look it up
[03:19] <LjL> TaPiOn: any media player will tell you. you have totem
[03:20] <Poseidon> abovett,but i am not familier to install OS from Haredisk
[03:20] <Pelo> pumpkinhead,  http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[03:20] <TaPiOn> ok
[03:20] <Aji-Dahaka> !win32-codecs
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <TaPiOn> i search a little prog
[03:20] <abovett> Poseidon: What is Haredisk?
[03:20] <Aji-Dahaka> hmm...
[03:20] <pumpkinhead> thanks pelo!
[03:20] <TIger_IT> sethk: can u read me ?
[03:20] <Aji-Dahaka> !win32
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <sethk> TIger_IT, not sure what you mean
[03:20] <Aji-Dahaka> I'm bad at that
[03:21] <dabaR> !w32codecs > Aji-Dahaka
[03:21] <DanSchnell> Can some one help me? How do i get the X log on the paste site?
[03:21] <abk> hey guys, I'm on edgy and having one last issue: although my window decorations and borders look like the themes I set (in Beryl/Emerald/gnome-theme-manager), the  controls for the window like buttons, scroll bars, etc. are REALLY UGLY: looks like gtk0. gnome-theme-manager is no help: nothing changes in metacity/compiz/beryl. is there something I'm missing? can I edit a config file?
[03:21] <cynikal> grndslm: Here, copy mine and just change the workgroup value to the name of your workgroup and my folder's name and location to yours
[03:21] <henna> good morning all of you
[03:21] <Poseidon> abovett,sorry Hard disk
[03:21] <cynikal> grndslm: http://pastebin.ca/233665
[03:21] <TIger_IT> sethk: WHY if I can use up to udma6 .......... Ive actived udma2 !!!
[03:21] <dabaR> DanSchnell: can you access the paste site through the same computer whose xlog you want there?
[03:21] <Aji-Dahaka> dabaR: thanks
[03:21] <TIger_IT> sethk: My english is poor.........but I think Im being clear
[03:21] <DanSchnell> dabar, i dont know
[03:22] <GaiaX11> henna: Which morning? Here is 23:22hrs
[03:22] <Poseidon> abovett,can you help me?
[03:22] <TIger_IT> sethk: Got U the idea, now ?
[03:22] <dabaR> DanSchnell: well you need to copy and paste to get the file to the pastebin.
[03:22] <sethk> TIger_IT, you mean why does it default to udma2?  probably because of a BIOS setting.  It may be a driver issue.  It may be the S.M.A.R.T. settings
[03:22] <abovett> Poseidon: do you mean you want to install from an image on the hard disk, or install _to_ the hard disk?
[03:22] <nonono> Hi, why seems 'sudo' deactivated? When doing 'sudo <cmd>', nothing happens.
[03:22] <sethk> TIger_IT, try running the smartctl utility on the disk.
[03:22] <sethk> TIger_IT, try using hdparm to change the default mode
[03:22] <TIger_IT> sethk: thanks
[03:22] <RohanRNS> nonono: probably means that you already have sudo access..it remembers the login for a while
[03:23] <TIger_IT> sethk: Ive tried....with hdparm!
[03:23] <TIger_IT> sethk: but no result
[03:23] <TIger_IT> sethk: but no results
[03:23] <nonono> RohanRNS: but im not logged in with root
[03:23] <AlReece45> Should the "Test" button for the "Open Sound System" driver work in Sound Preferences?
[03:23] <Poseidon> abovett,form.iso   not CD-ROM
[03:23] <DanSchnell> dabaR, someone told me to do that because of my problem found here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290877 and i have no idea what he means
[03:23] <AlanHaggai> cynikal : is there a GUI for NTFS access
[03:23] <nonono> RohanRNS: ,and dont have permissions for everything
[03:23] <henna> morning in the Netherlands, sorry okay
[03:23] <RohanRNS> nonono: try doing "sudo -k" and then try using sudo again
[03:23] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: What do you mean? To transfer files?
[03:23] <dabaR> DanSchnell: visit paste.ubuntu-nl.org to get an idea of what to do
[03:24] <abk> nonono: it just remembers that you've typed in your password. what if you try opening a new shell (console)?
[03:24] <thinkl> sethk: Well, the more I research, the more it looks bad for me. It looks like frontpage uses some kind of special proprietary extensions of its own which are different from the standard ftp/sftp/webdav toolkit...
[03:24] <AlanHaggai> cycom : yes
[03:24] <abk> nonono: are the sudos still broken?
[03:24] <abovett> Poseidon: Can't you burn the ISO to a CD?
[03:24] <grndslm> cynikal...so, i shouldn't need user/pass verification now?
[03:24] <Megaqwerty> !sunbird
[03:24] <ubotu> Mozilla Sunbird is a cross-platform calendar application, built upon Mozilla Toolkit. Our goal is to bring Mozilla-style ease-of-use to your calendar, without tying you to a particular storage solution.
[03:24] <cynikal> grndslm: nope
[03:24] <sethk> thinkl, indeed.  that's not a surprise from M$.  although, sniff the packets, you might find it's just grafted onto a simpler protocol underneath.  then again, you might not.  :)
[03:24] <merkidemis> Can someone assist me with getting my ATI Radeon Mobility Xpress 200 working on my laptop?  I can get X up, but the redraw is really slow
[03:24] <grndslm> cynikal...awesome, brb
[03:24] <Poseidon> iabovett,dose it work?
[03:24] <jared> http://www.jaredbinder.com
[03:25] <TIger_IT> sethk: here you can see ALL my tries! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29818/
[03:25] <thinkl> For example, these folks (http://webservices.web.cern.ch/WebServices/Help/?kbid=090025) describe providing a number of different protocols, one of which is just called "frontpage proprietary"
[03:25] <nonono> abk: yes, sudo doesnt do anything. But its only a problem with this user account.
[03:25] <DanSchnell> dabaR: This is my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290877 and i can't fix it
[03:25] <AlanHaggai> cynikal : yes. I need to transfer files
[03:25] <tich> i want to add the canonical commercial repository but the wiki only has the one for dapper listed. what is the one for edgy?
[03:25] <abovett> Poseidon: Yes. What OS are you running at the moment?
[03:25] <merkidemis> I've tried reinstalling fglrx, I have the composite option disabled, but I still can't get direct rendering enabled
[03:25] <sethk> TIger_IT, I have to deal with some paid support for a bit.  I'll try to get back here soon.
[03:25] <abk> merkidemis: try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and then turn on the kernel framebuffer
[03:25] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: No its transparent. Works just like if you were changing files on your linux partition
[03:25] <abk> or turn it off, if it's on
[03:25] <Poseidon> abovett,win XP
[03:26] <TIger_IT> sethk:  ok...
[03:26] <nonono> So how do I re-enable sudo?
[03:26] <abk> nonono: are you sure that account is listed in /etc/sudoers?
[03:26] <DanSchnell> i changed my settings in xserver-xorg, but now how do I load ubuntu LiveCD?
[03:26] <AlanHaggai> cynikal : I get a cannot write error. But reading the files is ok
[03:26] <yungknight> when i run iwconfig i see my wireless device on eth1 but when i do ifconfig eth1 up i get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory", any ideas on why this is so.
[03:26] <DanSchnell> I'm in the console
[03:26] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: did you change your fstab?
[03:26] <TIger_IT> nonono: just sudo........ again :)
[03:26] <AlanHaggai> cynikal : no I think
[03:26] <micahcowan> nonono: if you haven't changed the default /etc/sudoer settings, you can add that user to the "admin" group.
[03:26] <Poseidon> abovett,in c disk and I have another 3 patitions
[03:26] <nonono> TIger_IT: sudo doesnt do anything. It seems dead.
[03:26] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: Ok type "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[03:26] <abovett> Poseidon: You need to burn the ISO to CD as a disk image - can't remember if XP can do that itself or if you need to use something like Nero. _Don't_ just burn the ISO file to the CD as a file!
[03:27] <henna> see you all
[03:27] <grndslm> cynikal, what should the workgroup be?
[03:27] <merkidemis> abk: I am also getting the Mesa entry in fglrxinfo, not my ATI card
[03:27] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: and where it says ntfs, change it to say ntfs-3g
[03:27] <henna> maybe till later on
[03:27] <abovett> Poseidon: Do you have Nero or anything like that?
[03:27] <micahcowan> nonono, I took your comment to mean that you do have *a* user that can use sudo?
[03:27] <TIger_IT> nonono: U can entry to Linux in SINGLE USER MODE (as root)
[03:27] <nonono> TIger_IT: like: 'sudo mc' - nothing happens
[03:27] <cynikal> grndslm: Hmm it should be whatever you named it. By default I think its MSHOME
[03:27] <AlanHaggai> ok cynikal
[03:27] <Poseidon> abovett,no, I just have VM
[03:27] <TIger_IT> nonono: : mc: command not found
[03:27] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: After that you have to type "sudo umount -a" and then "sudo mount -a"
[03:27] <abk> merkidemis: I'm not sure fglrx supports older Radeons. I have a Radeon Mobility in my Thinkpad and it's not supported either. ATI is nasty
[03:27] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: to remount it
[03:28] <grndslm> cynikal...but, i define it in the smb.conf file?  and tell that to windows where?  in the username field?
[03:28] <abovett> Poseidon: VM? You mean you are running a virtual machine?
[03:28] <AlanHaggai> cynikal : please help me change the fstab
[03:28] <henna> love you dearest lovely dad
[03:28] <cynikal> grndslm: In the smb file it should say "workgroup = WORKGROUP", just change that to say MSHOME instead
[03:28] <AlanHaggai> cynikal : I will paste it and send you the link
[03:28] <nonono> TIger_IT: mc is a program I have. But sudo doesn neither sais it not found nor opens it the program
[03:28] <cynikal> grndslm: you don't do anything on the windows machine, it should work just like any regular folder
[03:28] <abk> nobody has any ideas on how to edit themes without gnome-theme-manager?
[03:28] <Poseidon> abovett, no I dont want to run it  ,it is too slow
[03:28] <nonono> TIger_IT: 'sudo <any-cmd>' does nothing
[03:29] <nonono> TIger_IT: ,'sudo ls' - no output
[03:29] <TIger_IT> nonono: TRY gksudo or kdesu
[03:29] <AlanHaggai> cynikal : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29820/
[03:29] <TIger_IT> nonono: U MUST be in a console......... U know ?
[03:29] <DanSchnell> can somebody please help me?
[03:30] <Pelo> DanSchnell,  what is your issue ?
[03:30] <Poseidon> abovett,so i have to burn it to a cd with NERO right?
[03:30] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: umm wow, are....are you sure thats right?
[03:30] <abovett> Poseidon: So do you have any way to burn the ISO to CD as an image? If you like I can check if XP can do it itself but it will take a few minutes - no XP boxes ruinning at the moment.
[03:31] <grndslm> cynikal...it's still definitely asking for at least something in the user field when i type in <IP_ADDRESS> in explorer's address bar
[03:31] <DanSchnell> Pelo, I have just reconfigured xserver-xorg, but now how do i load ubuntu from LiveCD from console?
[03:31] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: you have like 9 ntfs partitions lol
[03:31] <sethk> Poseidon, well, with nero or a similar program, there are several including at least one free one.
[03:31] <sith-lord> Hello
[03:31] <AlanHaggai> yes cynikal :)
[03:31] <merkidemis> abk: its not older, I bought this about 6 months ago (well, kinda old then I guess :)
[03:31] <nonono> TIger_IT: I am in the konsole all the time.  gksudo gave me something different: I typed 'gksudo ls', gave me: "username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."
[03:31] <AlanHaggai> cynikal : 280 GB in total
[03:31] <dabaR> sethk: free as in pudding or free as in freedom?
[03:31] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: For every line, after where it says /media/sda#, change ntfs to ntfs-3g
[03:31] <Pelo> DanSchnell,  , sorry I don't know ,  I am not even sure I understand what you are trying to acheive
[03:31] <hiffy> sethk: Turns out my "f-lock" was out. Everything is fine in that regard. If you actually remembered my problem, thats another story.
[03:31] <sethk> dabaR, both, I imagine  :)
[03:31] <cynikal> grndslm: you have to restart samba for the changes to take effect
[03:31] <hiffy> Now, howeever, my sound has stopped working.
[03:31] <firebird619> abovett: I am running XP right now and to my knowledge it cannot burn ISOs itself. I have seen programs on the Internet to add that functionality though.
[03:32] <sith-lord> unsure
[03:32] <sethk> hiffy, yes, I remember, at least a bit.
[03:32] <TIger_IT> nonono:  ?
[03:32] <grndslm> cynikal...ahh, gracias
[03:32] <cynikal> grndslm: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[03:32] <yungknight> does anyone know what i would be getting "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" after doing ifconfig eth1 (iwconfig shows eth1 as my wireless connection)?
[03:32] <Poseidon> abovett,just copy a .iso. is it OK?
[03:32] <AlanHaggai> ok cynikal
[03:32] <abk> merkidemis: so you've tried setting "fglrx" as your driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? (assuming you've installed fglrx)
[03:32] <DanSchnell> Pelo, I have reconfigured my setters for monitor and driver so i can see the desktop.  This is my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290877
[03:32] <kitche> yungknight did you do sudo ifconfig eth1 up before you did ifconfig eth1?
[03:33] <AlanHaggai> cynikal : I get a device is busy error while trying to unmount
[03:33] <meatwad64> is there a decent cd ripper on linux at all?
[03:33] <yungknight> kitche: yea
[03:33] <merkidemis> abk: nope, that does not appear to have helped
[03:33] <nonono> TIger_IT: Any suggestions?
[03:33] <abovett> Poseidon: No - don't just copy the ISO to CD - that won't work.
[03:33] <TIger_IT> nonono:  no no
[03:33] <nonono> TIger_IT: gksudo gave me something different: I typed 'gksudo ls', gave me: "username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."
[03:33] <grndslm> cynikal...still a nova
[03:33] <meatwad64> juicer is nice but seems to be ogg only which my iPod doesn't like
[03:33] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: oh no thats fine.  Today is not my day
[03:33] <todesengel> i just installed ubuntu, and i'm having a ltitle bit of a hard time grasping how to configure network connections
[03:33] <AlanHaggai> cynikal :I see
[03:33] <cynikal> grndslm: it still asks for a username/pass?
[03:34] <abovett> Poseidon: you must burn it as a disk image. Nero can definitely do it - I'll cyheck if XP can do it without nero - hold on...
[03:34] <grndslm> oh yea
[03:34] <AlanHaggai> cynikal : How to remount them?
[03:34] <abk> merkidemis: I'm not sure then :[ I know quick fixes, but I'm a mac tech :p
[03:34] <TIger_IT> nonono:  if you need something very important......... reboot...and entry as SINGLE USER MODE
[03:34] <merkidemis> abk: It was working great in Dapper, but after I updated to Edgy its all crap
[03:34] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: sudo mount -a
[03:34] <todesengel> i'm connected to the net via my neighbors open wireless, which ubuntu picked up and configured
[03:34] <TIger_IT> nonono:  U WILL BE ROOT ALL THE TIME
[03:34] <Poseidon> abovett,thank you very much
[03:34] <grndslm> cynikal...maybe i should just try restarting both 'puters?
[03:34] <cynikal> grndslm: Hmm, are you sure your friend's workgroup is called MSHOME?
[03:34] <todesengel> but, when i go to 'networking', it says that my wireless connection isn't configured or enabled
[03:35] <grndslm> cynikal...i don't have any clue about networking in ms
[03:35] <azureal> is there a useful utility for discovering my soundcard?  cli discover does not seem to work...
[03:35] <grndslm> or linux for that matter
[03:35] <sethk> voraistos, does nonononot
[03:35] <DanSchnell> What is the command for gdm restart?
[03:35] <AlanHaggai> yes cynikal. It is working. Thank you very much :)
[03:35] <Pelo> DanSchnell, ,  sorry, I can'T help
[03:35] <merkidemis> abk: I've been pouring over the forums, of course, trying everything, but obviously they haven't been helpful
[03:35] <cynikal> AlanHaggai: Np :)
[03:35] <merkidemis> Dan: sudo shutdown -r now
[03:35] <cynikal> DanSchnell: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:35] <aw420> hi i have just installed 64bit edgy today and i followed the instructions to get automatix2 and that went fine my only problem is that im still unable to play windows media 9 files
[03:36] <cynikal> grndslm: Do you have access to your friend's machine right now? Or can you tell him to change something?
[03:36] <grndslm> cynikal...yes, he's 2 rooms over
[03:36] <DanSchnell> cynikal, why does Starting GNOME display manager fail for me?
[03:36] <cynikal> DanSchnell: I'm not sure
[03:36] <Dheeraj_k> window media 9 file?
[03:36] <cynikal> grndslm: lol one sec I will reboot and see. I havent used windows in a while so I cant remember it off the top of my head
[03:37] <m4jqp> has anyone ever had the problem that when you install the nvidia beta drivers you can't see text?
[03:37] <DanSchnell> This is ridiculous.  I've been trying to find out the problem for the last week and nobody has ANY idea at all!  I've asked here and on the forums and none of the solutions work.
[03:37] <todesengel> why does networking say that my wireless connection isn't configured or enabled?
[03:37] <abk> merkidemis: do you NEED edgy for anything? my rule of thumb is "don't fix what ain't broke"
[03:37] <grndslm> DanSchnell....reinstall from scratch?
[03:37] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp Xgl ?
[03:38] <merkidemis> abk: probably not, though it seems a little late now
[03:38] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, no the nvidia beta drivers
[03:38] <LjL> !automatix | aw420
[03:38] <ubotu> aw420: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[03:38] <grndslm> DanSchnell, if your home dir. is on a separate partition...it shouldn't be a huge problem...but YMMV
[03:38] <DanSchnell> grndslm, Its not installion, I'm trying to get the LiveCD to load.  This is my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290877
[03:38] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp I only had that trouble with Xgl/compiz, xterm worked but urxvt didn't
[03:38] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, how'd you fix that?
[03:38] <Kingsqueak> couldn't figure out the colors properly
[03:38] <Kingsqueak> I switched to Beryl and it went away
[03:39] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, you don't need xgl to use beryl/compiz with the beta drivers
[03:39] <abovett> Poseidon: XP can't burn ISO images by itself, but I think there are some free programs which will do it if you don't have Nero or anything like that. Can't vouch for them though. It _might_ be possible to install from an ISO image on the hard disk but I'm not exactly sure how and I suspect it would be a little complex.
[03:39] <Kingsqueak> really, didn't realize that
[03:39] <m4jqp> yup :)
[03:39] <m4jqp> i found it way easier to set up
[03:39] <Kingsqueak> ah beta drivers
[03:39] <m4jqp> but my friend can't see text
[03:39] <merkidemis> brb, I am going to move to the library
[03:39] <m4jqp> and fails at irc
[03:39] <Kingsqueak> yeah I'm on the plain nivia-glx drivers
[03:39] <kitche> Poseidon: DeepBurner Free is good
[03:39] <m4jqp> and i donno what is problem is
[03:40] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp have him try 'xterm', if that works, start rxvt from that term and see what the error is if any
[03:40] <TIger_IT>  WHY if I can use up to udma6 .......... Ive actived udma2 !!!
[03:40] <abovett> kitche: Thanks for the recommendation - I've not got experience with any of these programs.
[03:40] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, what is xterm?
[03:40] <firebird619> abovett: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm has a download to add ISO burning as a native function to Windows XP, 2003, etc.
[03:40] <grndslm> DanSchnell...only thing i could suggest is dropping into a terminal and typing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and make sure framebuffer isn't enabled...if that doesn't help, then i dunno
[03:40] <p00ch3d> i've got a Dell Latitude D820 with the Intel PRO/wireless 3945ABG wifi card and wondering if anyone has some comprehensive how-to's for making Dapper happy with the wifi card with WPA?
[03:41] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp a terminal window app
[03:41] <m4jqp> so it's a command?
[03:41] <m4jqp> (i use gentoo)
[03:41] <m4jqp> never used ubuntu
[03:41] <m4jqp> lol
[03:41] <Kingsqueak> yes, opens a window
[03:41] <cynical> grndslm: tell your friend to right click on my computer and go to properties
[03:41] <Kingsqueak> xterm is just X, you probably have it
[03:41] <sethk> m4jqp, gentoo and ubuntu have precisely the same commands, including xterm
[03:41] <m4jqp> ahh
[03:41] <m4jqp> never used it
[03:42] <cynical> grndslm: then click on the next tab to the right, he will find his computer's name and his workgroup's name listed there
[03:42] <Poseidon> abovett,thanks, i can download Nero later i will try to burn it
[03:42] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, should the beta driers be instaled when he does this? because he can't see any text with them installed
[03:42] <VanessaE> good evening
[03:42] <abovett> Poseidon: OK - good luck.
[03:43] <DanSchnell> grndslm, it is not enabled...
[03:43] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp not sure what causes it but there is some weird color mapping thing that happens
[03:43] <abovett> firebird619: Thanks - useful to know.
[03:43] <Kingsqueak> I just sort of figured a way around it, not the real cause
[03:43] <firebird619> abovett: np
[03:44] <kitche> m4jqp: you probably don't have xterm unless you installed it
[03:44] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, http://pastebin.ca/233690 thats what he gets
[03:44] <DanSchnell> Anyone: when i use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" it says Starting GNOME Display Manager fails, can anyone help me?
[03:44] <m4jqp> kitche, ahh
[03:44] <duarte> i've been having problems with the network manager applet on edy... can anyone help me?
[03:44] <abk> duarte: I have basic knowledge, what's up?
[03:44] <kitche> m4jqp: since it's seperate in xorg-modular
[03:45] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp that seems like he's trying to run xterm as a different user than the X session is run as
[03:45] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, he got that error as root
[03:46] <Kingsqueak> is X session running as root?
[03:46] <grndslm> cynical, i don't think he had any workgroups setup...i tried to enable one, which was defaulted to MSHOME...and i have to restart, so we'll see how that goes
[03:46] <m4jqp> king
[03:46] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, probably not
[03:46] <Kingsqueak> tell him to run it as the user he's logged in as
[03:47] <cynical> grndslm: ah you ran the network setup wizard?
[03:47] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, seem's he's here >> francois
[03:47] <duarte> I cannot choose wireless networks using the applet on the notification area
[03:48] <francois> Kingsqueak, hey, i'm sorta stuck :S
[03:48] <grndslm> cynical, yup...i figured it would have been enabled by default, but i guessed wrong
[03:48] <cynical> grndslm: I as well. Does it seem to work now?
[03:49] <Kingsqueak> francois as the user X is logged in as, run 'xterm' see if you can see the fonts
[03:49] <grndslm> cynical...still waiting on the reboot
[03:49] <abk> duarte, try running "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces". what's in there?
[03:49] <m4jqp> francois, probably meaning you need the beta drivers instaled
[03:49] <m4jqp> then run it
[03:49] <Clarrisa> how do I find out what version of PHP i have installed?
[03:49] <francois> Kingsqueak, ok so run on the beta drivers, and then run xterm ? '
[03:50] <hangfire> php -v
[03:50] <francois> Kingsqueak, because right now i get this error http://pastebin.ca/233710
[03:50] <m4jqp> Clarrisa, php --version
[03:50] <Kingsqueak> francois that error is because you are running that command as a different user than X is running as
[03:51] <sethk> francois, as the user who started x, do:    xhost +
[03:51] <sethk> francois, that allows all hosts and users to connect to your X display
[03:51] <francois> ah
[03:51] <sethk> francois, turn it back off (if you need to) with    xhost -
[03:51] <grndslm> cynical...now it at least shows my comuter under "view workgroups" or whatever...but it's STILL asking for the user/pass
[03:51] <sethk> francois, that's xhost space the-plus-sign
[03:51] <sethk> francois, xhost +
[03:51] <francois> ok
[03:51] <francois> so run that now ?
[03:52] <sethk> francois, if you want to connect as the other user, yes
[03:52] <cynical> grndslm: grr this is strange, reboot your computer just in case
[03:52] <grndslm> aight...bbiaf
[03:52] <jramsey> i added a network hp laserjet 1200 printer hosted on windows as a windows smb printer, basically used suggested defaults (driver, etc.) but prints do nothing
[03:52] <Clarrisa> m4jqp when I type php --version, bash says php: command not found.... I must not be in the right folder?
[03:53] <francois> sethk, ok done that, now what do i do ? it just says disabled access control
[03:53] <m4jqp> Clarrisa, install php then
[03:53] <sethk> francois, right.  so now, the other command that gave you the error you posted should work
[03:53] <MetaMorfoziS> !bootup
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <Clarrisa> m4jqp, it's installed.... it's a LAMP server
[03:54] <butterflywifemay> hello everyone how are you?
[03:54] <francois> ok
[03:54] <sethk> MetaMorfoziS, did you mean bootp?
[03:54] <francois> Kingsqueak, ok now i have to reboot with the new drivers running ? and then run xterm ?
[03:54] <MetaMorfoziS> no,  i find some bootup sppeedup trick
[03:55] <delta____> Hey guys! I use Ubuntu Dapper's OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 and cannot seem to get hypenation for "English (GB)" and "English (US)". Also, apt-cache only lists openoffice.org-hyphenation-de, openoffice.org-hyphenation-hr and openoffice.org-hyphenation-hu. Am I doing something wrong, or is there simply no support?
[03:55] <alisha> is there anyway to enable wpa in wireless networking?
[03:55] <DanSchnell> Question...Is it possible to run LiveCD on an nVidia driver?
[03:56] <delta____> alisha: Depends on your driver, I'd say. I use ndiswrapper and got everything running smoothly on Dapper
[03:56] <alisha> hmmm
[03:56] <alisha> it recognized the adapter
[03:56] <alisha> but only allows wep
[03:56] <brush01uk> Good night ALL  from the U K   - Take care       byeeeeee
[03:56] <alisha> i don't see any other choice
[03:57] <delta____> alisha: Do you have the supplicant daemon for WPA installed?
[03:57] <Juan> is there any way to disable the lock screen?
[03:57] <alisha> no don't know what that is but the adapter is in networking
[03:57] <Juan> like, just use the login screen instead?
[03:58] <delta____> alisha: Ah, I see, you're trying to install things GUI-only. I am sorry, but only got it working with editing config files manually
[03:58] <alisha> oh dear is there a guide somewhere?
[03:59] <francois> Kingsqueak, ok now i have to reboot with the new drivers running ? and then run xterm ?
[03:59] <delta____> alisha: There's lots of guides for Debian. Pick one, have fun
[03:59] <Kingsqueak> alisha what linux are you running...which release?
[03:59] <grndslm> cynical...still doesn't help...i think the problem is with windows.  i don't think it allows you to connect until there is at least one character in the username field.  if there's nothing there, the "ok" button isn't even available
[03:59] <Kingsqueak> francois you are mixing up the issues
[03:59] <alisha> dapper
[03:59] <dudesmithy> Hello everyone....I have a quick (hopefully) installation question
[03:59] <Kingsqueak> xterm should have worked for you already
[04:00] <Kingsqueak> alisha apt-get install network-manager and gnome-network-manager
[04:00] <DanSchnell> Can someone answer my question?
[04:00] <alisha> ok
[04:00] <francois> Kingsqueak, it did and i could see the font no problem
[04:00] <grndslm> dudesmithy, just ask the question
[04:00] <Kingsqueak> alisha after that, start up  nm-applet
[04:00] <francois> Kingsqueak, but i'm just running the generic "nv" drivers right now
[04:00] <cynical> grndslm: I dont understand what could possibly be wrong though. The windows machines in my house don't require authentication to connect to me, and if you are using my config file it wouldnt make sense for it to not work
[04:00] <Kingsqueak> francois o.k. so you have the issue I had, the only way I fixed it was to run Beryl instead of compiz
[04:01] <rga> how is HD Sata in Ubuntu? sda? no hda?
[04:01] <Kingsqueak> francois I don't have much else to tell you other than it was a color mapping issue I never fixed
[04:01] <grndslm> cynical...i totally agree...non-sensical
[04:01] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, it's not a beryl or compiz problem yet, it's a drivers and config file problem
[04:01] <dudesmithy> I have an existing system (WinXP) with running in Raid 1.  I have a  3rd Hard Drive that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?
[04:01] <francois> Kingsqueak, ok weird, but thanks for the help, i'm trying to get the new beta drivers to work, and when i use them it screwed up all my fonts, so its weird,
[04:01] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp the window manager doesn't like his drivers, it's color mapping
[04:01] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, can't use beryl if you can't read any text on anything
[04:01] <baxter_kylie> Hi. How do I enable table completion on an additional user?
[04:01] <rga> how is HD Sata in Ubuntu? sda? no hda?
[04:01] <cynical> grndslm: I'm sorry I couldn't help you :(
[04:01] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp just starting beryl-manager fixed me right up
[04:02] <grndslm> cynical, it's all good...maybe i'll just start over again and hope it works
[04:02] <m4jqp> lol his kwin wont show text
[04:02] <DanSchnell> Somebody? Anyone?
[04:02] <baxter_kylie> rga: nvidia sata in amd64 is broken.
[04:02] <grndslm> cynical, quick question, tho....what do the ;'s at the beginning of the lines mean?
[04:02] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, his kwin wont show text
[04:02] <Xaser> hey guys, Just wondering if someone could try to fix my problem, I have 2 ubuntu boxes that are having troubles connecting to the net. My Windows machine works fine. the Network works fine between them all, and one can get to some websites but not others..  any ideas guys?
[04:02] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp but you can still type in it
[04:02] <cynical> grndslm: It means the lines are commented out
[04:03] <cynical> grndslm: so samba ignores them
[04:03] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp I typed 'beryl-manager' in a blacked out term
[04:03] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, lol
[04:03] <Kingsqueak> poof it fixed it
[04:03] <Kingsqueak> otherwise if he disables glx I bet it goes away
[04:03] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, does your metacity/kwin have color ? or is beryl the only tihng that works?
[04:03] <jordan> DanSchnell: Could you refrase the question, you can run the liveCD with an nVidea card.
[04:04] <DanSchnell> I am not able too
[04:04] <francois> Kingsqueak, ok i'll try disabling glx and then beryl-manager
[04:04] <Kingsqueak> m4jqp I haven't tried the others
[04:04] <grndslm> cynical...just wondering why it uses two different characters for commenting out lines
[04:04] <Kingsqueak> francois try beryl-manager first
[04:04] <babo> I can't even hear system sounds ... :-(
[04:04] <grndslm> i guess just for looks
[04:04] <m4jqp> Kingsqueak, lol
[04:04] <jordan> DanSchnell: What happes when you try?
[04:04] <babo> can anyone help ?
[04:04] <Kingsqueak> francois if that doesn't fix you, then disable glx
[04:04] <DanSchnell> jordan: this is what happens: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290877
[04:04] <francois> Kingsqueak, ok, thanks a lot for the help
[04:04] <Juan> is there any way to disable the lock screen? like, just use the login screen instead?
[04:04] <Kingsqueak> francois you should be able to just fire up beryl-manager right now in the running session
[04:05] <Kingsqueak> francois type it into the xterm you opened
[04:05] <dudesmithy> I have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?
[04:05] <francois> Kingsqueak, yeah but i gotta reinstall it first
[04:05] <Kingsqueak> heh k
[04:05] <jordan> DanSchnell: Can you get to a tty?
[04:05] <DanSchnell> jordan, sorry i don't understand what you mean
[04:06] <rga> how it is Hard Disk SATA in the Ubuntu?
[04:06] <abovett> juan: do you mean you want it to automatically log you out? That would close all your apps.
[04:06] <Juan> n ope
[04:06] <rga> how it is Hard Disk SATA in the Ubuntu? /hda?
[04:06] <Juan> i have  more than 1 user
[04:06] <Juan> and i just wanna switch
[04:06] <Juan> without login out
[04:06] <jordan> DanSchnell: You can get to a terminal by pressing alt + F2, and it doesn't require graphics drivers to see it.
[04:07] <abovett> juan: oh I see - not sure, sorry.
[04:07] <Juan> but when i re login to an open session, i get prompted for  password twice
[04:07] <DanSchnell> jordan, Ok.  Then what do I do?  I've tried changing my graphics driver and everything.
[04:07] <Juan> on the login screen and the lock screen
[04:07] <Xaser> Hey Guys, I have 2 ubuntu boxes that are having trouble connecting to the net. I also ahve a win box the works fine. All connect to each other fine. I can get to some websites but not others. Any ideas PLS?
[04:08] <jason> Good evening
[04:08] <DanSchnell> Jordan, btw, i've tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart after reconfiguring and it says GNOME display manager fails...
[04:08] <jason> I have two problems with my edgy upgrade.
[04:08] <voraistos> Xaser it must be some proxy related problem
[04:09] <jordan> DanSchnell: You can try installing nvidia's proprietary drivers, I can help you with that.
[04:09] <jason> First, Disks has disappeared off my System: Admin menu.
[04:09] <DanSchnell> Jordan, do I need to actually have Ubuntu installed, or can I do that from LiveCD?
[04:09] <Xaser> voraistos: I have no proxy setup
[04:09] <abovett> Xaser: might be a DNS issue. Have you tried using the IP addresses of some of the sites you can't get to - see if you can reach them via address when you can't via name?
[04:10] <jason> Second: update-manager shows two greyed-out packages listed as distribution upgrades but I can't update them.
[04:10] <abovett> Xaser: What happens if you try to ping the site syou can't reach?
[04:10] <jordan> DanSchnell: If you have enough RAM on the machine you can do it on the LiveCD
[04:10] <DanSchnell> Jordan, I do.
[04:10] <Xaser> abovett: I cant ping them either
[04:11] <abovett> Xaser: what is the error message? CAn you ping them by address rather than name?
[04:11] <voraistos> Xaser what is your actual network config ?
[04:11] <jordan> DanSchnell: Are you booted into the liveCD now?
[04:11] <todesengel> how do i get WMV files working?
[04:11] <jordan> !codecs
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <Xaser> abovett: sry I can ping them by www.google.com  so to me that not  a DNS prob
[04:12] <todesengel> installing ffmpeg plugin doesn't work
[04:12] <todesengel> do i need to go find another codec?
[04:12] <DanSchnell> Jordan, No.  I don't really have time tonight to do it.  Will you be here tomorrow?
[04:12] <voraistos> Xaser that doesnt mean anything.
[04:12] <reiki> WOOT! I got World of Warcraft running in Wine on Edgy! I am so happy... hehehe
[04:12] <voraistos> Xaser it could be DNS related anyway
[04:12] <delta____> reiki: Grats :)
[04:12] <Xaser> voraistos: what can you suggest then?
[04:12] <jordan> DanSchnell: Possibly, around what time?
[04:12] <abovett> Xaser: what do you mean? Give an example of a site you _can't_ reach
[04:13] <dudesmithy> I have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?
[04:13] <voraistos> Xaser i would like to know what is your LAN config first
[04:13] <delta____> Is one of you guys running Dapper's OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 and has hyphenation support for English text? I haven't...
[04:13] <Xaser> abovett: I cant access www.google.com via firefox, but can ping it
[04:13] <DanSchnell> Jordan, Anytime after 5 p.m. CST
[04:13] <Xaser> voraistos: what do you details do you want?
[04:13] <voraistos> Xaser router config, etc ...
[04:14] <jason> sorry to barge in
[04:14] <grndslm> ok..anybody here besides cynikal know how to use connect a windows computer to samba?
[04:14] <kitche> grndslm: yes you will do //<ip of computer with samba>/share
[04:14] <erick> hi all, how can i install apache tomcat in ubuntu Edgy?
[04:14] <Xaser> voraistos: ip <IP_ADDRESS>, mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:15] <burnick> why does the prism2_pci module detects my wireless prism 2 built card
[04:15] <jordan> DanSchnell: Probably, so you don't clog up the main channel, try asking for me in #ubuntu-bots every once in a while since I don't know when / if I will be on.
[04:15] <abovett> Xaser: what happens if you put the address of a site you can't reach by name into the browser?
[04:15] <voraistos> windows computers connecting to each others have always been a problem for some reason
[04:15] <burnick> wired
[04:15] <grndslm> kitche, yea...but it asks for user/pass pass verification and won't allow me to click "ok" until i enter at least one character
[04:15] <voraistos> Xaser, gateway ?
[04:15] <jason> Where has the Disks utility gone in edgy?
[04:15] <kitche> grndslm: yeah it will you need a samba user there is a guest setup also for samba
[04:15] <abovett> grbdslm: what's the problem? I've got some windows and samba boxes talking OK?
[04:15] <jordan> jason: It isn't maintained anymore AFIK
[04:16] <Xaser> voraistos: <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:16] <jason> What does one use instead?
[04:16] <jordan> jason: Possibly gparted?
[04:16] <Xaser> abovett: no good, stil times out
[04:16] <voraistos> Xaser use DNS server as <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:17] <jason> I've got an external USB disk that doesn't get autodetected.
[04:17] <Xaser> voraistos: yes thats right for the DNS
[04:17] <jordan> jason: Or I think you can still install the old disks manager
[04:17] <DanSchnell> jordan, how do i ask for someone in #ubuntu-bots
[04:17] <grndslm> kitche, so...what do i do?
[04:17] <jordan> DanSchnell: Just post asking if the guy you talked to yesterday is here every few minutes.
[04:18] <cynical> grndslm: heres a good resource, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[04:18] <voraistos> Xaser. what does proxy config say ?
[04:18] <burnick> why does the prism2_pci module detects my wireless prism 2 built card as wired connection?
[04:18] <bubba_jones> anyone familiar with ndiswrapper?
[04:18] <voraistos> Xaser, system preferences. advanced config
[04:18] <DanSchnell> jordan, like how...?
[04:18] <kitche> grndslm: setup a samba user or use a guest account for samba
[04:19] <Xaser> voraistos:in the browser? Direct connection
[04:19] <voraistos> nope. in system menu
[04:19] <dudesmithy> I have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?
[04:19] <grndslm> kitche...so, will uncommenting the "guest account = guest" line be good enough?
[04:20] <kitche> grndslm: yea probably you will probably have to setup a password for it but guest doesn't have write permissions
[04:20] <Xaser> voraistos: same there tooo
[04:20] <voraistos> in the advanced tab
[04:20] <voraistos> Xaser, what does it say ?
[04:20] <Xaser> localhost   127.0.0/8    *.local
[04:21] <voraistos> daMN
[04:21] <Xaser> sry it was <IP_ADDRESS>/8
[04:21] <Xaser> LOL any more ideas?
[04:21] <voraistos> understood that ;)
[04:21] <Xaser> its really annoying me..
[04:21] <voraistos> and your win box can access it ? yeah, strange
[04:21] <erick> hi all, how can i install apache tomcat in ubuntu Edgy?
[04:21] <spiderworm> hello all, can anyone tell me, does edgy use udev ?
[04:21] <Xaser> was the same when I had fedora core 5 on there too
[04:22] <Xaser> yeah win box work 100%
[04:22] <voraistos> Xaser, you dont have wifi ?
[04:22] <Xaser> I do, but not on the linux boxes
[04:22] <aw420> hi i have just installed 64bit edgy today and i followed the instructions to get automatix2 and that went fine my only problem is that im still unable to play windows media 9 files
[04:22] <voraistos> Xaser. what is your ISP ?
[04:23] <Xaser> Chariot
[04:23] <bimberi> spiderworm: yes
[04:23] <AlanHaggai> cynical : I have a question
[04:23] <Xaser> hahahah
[04:23] <spiderworm> bimberi: did dapper use udev as well or did it start with edgy?
[04:23] <cynical> AlanHaggai: shoot
[04:24] <voraistos> Xaser, what kind of network adapter do u have? brand, etc..
[04:24] <bimberi> aw420: 64bit + codes = no go (afaik)
[04:24] <bimberi> spiderworm: yes, dapper does too
[04:24] <AlanHaggai> cynical : I have done everything as you have said and now I can write to the NTFS partitions. The problem is with the icons.
[04:24] <bimberi> aw420: *codecs
[04:25] <jason> Could my external drive not be showing because it's HFS+?
[04:25] <spiderworm> bimberi: can you think of any change that would cause pptp connections to fail from edgy, connections that worked fine in dapper?
[04:25] <voraistos> Xaser, what is your ifconfig ? you can paste it in #voraistos instead of pastebin
[04:25] <AlanHaggai> cynical : In the desktop, only sda5 has been given the icon of a hard disk. All the others are having the icons of folders. How to change them too?
[04:25] <aw420> bimberi: what about 32 bit mplayer and and 32bitcodecs
[04:25] <bimberi> spiderworm: no sorry
[04:25] <spiderworm> np, thanks for your help
[04:25] <erick> somebody help me, how can i install apache tomcat in ubuntu Edgy?
[04:25] <bimberi> yw :)
[04:25] <Xaser> one has Dlink 1gig, and on board 1gig, other has a DEC 10/100
[04:26] <jason> Is it not in the repos?
[04:26] <bimberi> aw420: idk, i've only used 32bit
[04:26] <Xaser> both auto dectect no probs and network to each other fine
[04:26] <ehj20> Xaser: what does http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ in firefox do?
[04:26] <voraistos> Xaser: what about ifconfig ?
[04:26] <cynical> AlanHaggai: Hmm I cant answer that. They should all have shown up with hard disk icons. Sorry :\
[04:26] <Xaser> gets google  :S
[04:27] <AlanHaggai> cynical : no problem :)
[04:27] <cynical> aw420: are you talking about mplayer/codecs on 64-bit?
[04:27] <highneko> I'm looking for a computer that'll work good with a ubuntu 64-bit installation cd. After reading alittle I think AMD Athlon would be good. How's this computer? http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10079969&catid=20217&logon=&langid=EN
[04:27] <dudesmithy> I have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?
[04:27] <ehj20> perhaps firefox has a DNS cache
[04:27] <voraistos> Xaser: seems like a DNS problem. definely
[04:27] <lostboyz> i have a question i am trying to upgrade ubuntu but when i get to configurign in apt it says it is not possible
[04:27] <aw420> cynical: yes
[04:28] <Xaser> but I tried the aussie google addy and no go
[04:28] <grndslm> kitche...so, could you explain step by step how i can possibly setup a samba user to share files between a windows and ubuntu boxes?
[04:28] <abovett> Xaser: obvious question - you have tried closing and restarting Fireox I assume?
[04:28] <Xaser> <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:28] <cynical> aw420: you can compile the latest mplayer, it includes native support for the wmv codec. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html
[04:28] <Xaser> abovett: yes  hehehe
[04:28] <lostboyz> for xubuntu'desktop acpid acpi'support
[04:28] <bruenig> grndslm, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[04:28] <voraistos> abovett he said he had the same problem on a different distro
[04:28] <abovett> Xaser: might be worth running a packet sniffer and seeing what's going on.
[04:29] <bimberi> erick: edgy has tomcat5 and tomcat5.5 packages (in universe) - try searching via http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:29] <abovett> voraistos: sorry - have been away from the conversation for a while. My bad.
[04:29] <Xaser> I do thank you both for trying
[04:30] <voraistos> abovett: i am not sure this guy can run a packet sniffer
[04:30] <grndslm> bruenig...thanks, will look into it
[04:30] <ehj20> Xaser: have you tried another browser?
[04:30] <__mikem> can someone here help me with a thunderbird problem?
[04:30] <voraistos> Xaser: yeah like w3m
[04:30] <Xaser> ehj20: no
[04:30] <grndslm> cynical...so, samba's the "easiest" to setup, eh?
[04:30] <voraistos> Xaser try w3m google.com
[04:30] <voraistos> in a console
[04:30] <ChocoCid> So, got a question.
[04:30] <cynical> grndslm: for me it was automatic
[04:31] <ChocoCid> Why does left alt do something different than right alt?
[04:31] <cynical> grndslm: not sure why you are having so much trouble
[04:31] <ChocoCid> namely, in firefox 2.0 (actually swiftfox) left alt+ arrowkeys work to go back/forward, and right alt doesn't
[04:31] <dragoon> I'm using edgy, but there's two packages which I'd rather use the dapper version of, so I rebuilt them for edgy. How can I make synaptic not upgrade them? Lock version or Force Version doesn't seem to work.
[04:31] <grndslm> cynical, it's all good...i like a challenge from time to time
[04:31] <voraistos> ChocoCid: 2 different keys, 2 different actions :)
[04:31] <ChocoCid> so what's right alt do?
[04:31] <abovett> voraistos: what about running ethereal? Maybe one of us could look at the logs and see what's going on?
[04:32] <ChocoCid> and/or is there a way to remap it?
[04:32] <voraistos> ChocoCid: depends of what software you are running :P
[04:32] <voraistos> abovett : yeah
[04:32] <ChocoCid> ubuntu edgy, gnome, swiftfox 2.0
[04:32] <m4jqp> does xorg 7.1 work in ubuntu?
[04:33] <dusk> all my screen fonts (proggyfonts.com) look very blurry in edgy, is there a workaround?
[04:33] <jason> Thanks.
[04:33] <voraistos> ChocoCid: on firefox it would probably be the same. on gnome... gnome is not really just software. but if you run metacity, compiz or beryl, ull see the difference
[04:33] <ChocoCid> yes, i run beryl at times
[04:33] <ChocoCid> and it totally breaks some of my shortcuts
[04:34] <abovett> Xaser: can you run ethereal whilst trying to browse and save a log? Maybe one of us can look at it?
[04:34] <ChocoCid> (that i have set in metacity)
[04:34] <bimberi> m4jqp: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) has xorg 7.1
[04:34] <ChocoCid> so... how do i set right-alt to do the same thing as left-alt?
[04:34] <voraistos> Xaser. you have to install ethereal
[04:34] <Xaser> ok
[04:34] <twitch> could someone kinda help me out with getting my ATI card working? i have tried many times and the x server doesnt start at the boot up (pain to fix)
[04:35] <ChocoCid> twitch : you can start X manually?
[04:35] <voraistos> ChocoCid: depends of the software again. you have to see that in the soft's config itself. Or try to look in system preferences.
[04:35] <ChocoCid> voraistos: exactly which software? firefox/swiftfox?
[04:36] <dudesmithy> I have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?
[04:36] <voraistos> ChocoCid: uh. ure being too specific. but i dont think you can set it up nin firefox nor swiftfox
[04:36] <Clarrisa> having a brain fart...how do I search for a file or folder in linux? I'm trying to use ls -R <filename> but it always says no such file or directory even when I know it's there
[04:36] <ChocoCid> Clarrisa: locate filename
[04:36] <voraistos> ChocoCid: i think you should take a look in your keyboard config
[04:36] <twitch> yes chococid i know how to start X manually
[04:37] <ehj20> find / -name ....
[04:37] <bimberi> Clarrisa: find . -name filename
[04:37] <ChocoCid> twitch: then just put the command sequence you use there in your startup?
[04:37] <Clarrisa> bimeri, does that support wildcards?
[04:37] <Clarrisa> I"m actually trying to see where imagemagick is installed
[04:37] <dusk> all my screen fonts (proggyfonts.com) look very blurry in edgy, is there a workaround?
[04:37] <bimberi> Clarrisa: find . -name "*string*"
[04:37] <sid> What is a good application for designing a flier?
[04:37] <puneit> exit
[04:37] <ChocoCid> Clarrisa: probably /usr/bin/imagemagick
[04:38] <__mikem> look I really need help with mozilla thunderbird, the smtp settings that work fine on my ubuntu box for the same e-mail account don't work on my windows machine. The mozilla and thunerbird chanels are empty. Could someone tell me what to do?
[04:38] <ChocoCid> sid: imagemagick, gimp, krita
[04:38] <wd> hey anybody used enlightenment with ubuntu?
[04:38] <bimberi> sid: inkscape
[04:38] <twitch> its not that i dont know how to start it but ATIs are known to be stubborn and i get the error of "no screens found" almost every time and have never gotten any picture to display other than using a vesa driver
[04:38] <ChocoCid> oh, dur, for whatever reason meta is set to the right alt key >:[
[04:38] <funshineBear> somebody, pls help. i upgraded from xubuntu dapper to xubuntu edgy by editing my sources.list file and then running the upgrade commands via CLI, but now xserver won't work. i've tried asking xubuntu chatroom, but it seems we're stuck. please advies
[04:38] <twitch> i am willing to put up my xorg.conf
[04:39] <m4jqp> is edgy > dapper?
[04:39] <ChocoCid> heh. i've got to figure out a place to put meta , super, and hyper
[04:39] <bimberi> sid: sorry, scribus (not inkscape)
[04:39] <ChocoCid> m4jqp : depends on what you're using them for
[04:39] <bimberi> m4jqp: edgy is the latest release
[04:39] <spiderworm> does anyone know if there has been any major firewall change from dapper to edgy that might hinder a pptp server from responding to a connection request?
[04:39] <azureal> sound is kernel independent...and because of that I am screwed unless i ... reinstall?!
[04:40] <wd> anybody use enlightenment?
[04:40] <ChocoCid> wd: i used it
[04:40] <ChocoCid> it broke
[04:40] <ChocoCid> i removed it
[04:40] <abovett> funshineBear: I had something similar. You may find that some of the packages didn't update. Can you  boot to a comsole?
[04:40] <ChocoCid> that happened in the span of about 10-15 minutes
[04:40] <sid> bimberi: ahh, that's what I had opened before I asked the question. good suggestion
[04:40] <markedwards> hi, I'm trying to do a custom build of the netatalk package, and I'm running into the following error: gpg: skipped "Sebastian Rittau<EMAIL_ADDRESS>secret key not available
[04:40] <wd> ChocoCid really
[04:40] <ChocoCid> yeah
[04:40] <m4jqp> so for coolness you use edgy
[04:40] <m4jqp> :)
[04:40] <TheZork> hey guys
[04:40] <voraistos> Xaser. are u done ?
[04:40] <ChocoCid> i preferred beryl's setup anyway
[04:40] <ChocoCid> ;)
[04:40] <markedwards> should I do the build without gpg, or is there a better way to fix this?
[04:40] <wd> ChocoCid  no way, what happened
[04:40] <TheZork> is there any bugs with the edgy amd64 installer
[04:41] <funshineBear> abovett: i think so
[04:41] <Xaser> still getting an internet borwser  LOL
[04:41] <TheZork> mine keeps freezing at 44 percent
[04:41] <ChocoCid> oh, mainly the fact that i couldn't get a lot of stuff to work
[04:41] <Xaser> 50%
[04:41] <ChocoCid> screens went blank
[04:41] <ChocoCid> had a hell of a time trying to get it to log out
[04:41] <bimberi> m4jqp: they're both pretty cook :) but edgy is more up to date
[04:41] <voraistos> abovett : you might have to keep up with this guy. its 3 41 AM here. i need some sleep. i should get up in 2 hours
[04:41] <ChocoCid> couldn't switch back without restarting X
[04:41] <bimberi> m4jqp: *cook
[04:41] <bimberi> m4jqp: *cool (sheesh)
[04:41] <aSt3raL> how do i install the flashplugin-nonfree for edgy on amd64?
[04:41] <roughtrader> can anyone recommend a good bittorrent client?
[04:41] <dragoon> Anyone have experience locking personally-built packages so they're not upgraded? Care to share them?
[04:41] <abovett> funshineBear: try sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:42] <alpha255> roughtrader, azurus?
[04:42] <wd> ChocoCid sh_t.   hmmmmm, i'm stuck on ubuntu especially because of the support. but elive sure looks pretty nice.
[04:42] <aSt3raL> anyone know where theres a amd64 flash package?
[04:42] <abovett> voraistos: same problem here!
[04:42] <alpha255> roughtrader, java based
[04:42] <ChocoCid> no clue what elive is
[04:42] <roughtrader> azureus consumes too much resources
[04:42] <voraistos> lol
[04:42] <abovett> Should be asleep!
[04:42] <bimberi> dragoon: did you install the package using an apt tool?
[04:42] <roughtrader> I'm thinking along the lines of C++ based
[04:42] <funshineBear> i've done that already, but if you think it will help, i'll do it again
[04:42] <ChocoCid> voraistos: thanks, i moved my meta key to a key that's not on my keyboard since i never use meta :P
[04:42] <roughtrader> like utorrent for windows
[04:42] <dudesmithy> I have an existing system (WinXP) which is running in Raid 1 (SATA).  I have a 3rd Hard Drive (Also Sata) that I want to install edgy on...Anything special I need to worry about?
[04:42] <wd> enlightenment company made distro using debian.
[04:42] <Xaser> voraistor: for the ethereal, I would need the debian package?
[04:42] <ChocoCid> wd: isn't enlightenment "basically" dead?
[04:42] <spiderworm> bimberi: im thinking that something is blocking the pptp server's ability to respond to my client.... like a firewall or something..... do you know perchance if there have been firewall changes in edgy?
[04:42] <wd> ChocoCid not sure
[04:43] <ChocoCid> i thought there hadn't been updates on it in a long time
[04:43] <TheZork> anyone have any input on why edgy install freezes at 44 percent??
[04:43] <wd> ChocoCid  oh.
[04:43] <voraistos> Xaser: yeah. just apt-get it ! sudo apt-get install ethereal
[04:43] <ChocoCid> i dunno, beryl/compix is hotness, enlightenment may just be yesterday's news anyway
[04:43] <dragoon> bimberi, dpkg. I rebuilt a dapper version package for edgy, as the new version is eh..
[04:43] <spiderworm> roughtrader: i like ktorrent
[04:43] <markedwards> can anyone give me some debuild advice?
[04:43] <abovett> funshimeBear: Yes - you may need to do it more than once. You may also need to do some other things but try that a couple times first.
[04:43] <spiderworm> roughtrader: but then, im using kubuntu
[04:43] <bimberi> spiderworm: i'm not aware of any, but i'm not in that sort of loop though
[04:43] <bimberi> dragoon: if so, you can use "Lock Version" from the Package menu in Synaptic
[04:43] <spiderworm> bimberi: do you know who i could bug about this?
[04:43] <roughtrader> yuk, kde
[04:43] <wd> ChocoCid i seem to keep coming back to ubuntu, gnome.... lol....    o' faithful...
[04:44] <ChocoCid> beryl runs on top of gnome actually
[04:44] <roughtrader> kde has to be the ugliest thing on the face of the planet
[04:44] <ChocoCid> it just replaces metacity
[04:44] <ChocoCid> and yeah, agreed on that point
[04:44] <ChocoCid> thought i don't mind kde apps inside gnome, like krita
[04:44] <ChocoCid> (and man, the new krita is awesomeness)
[04:44] <spiderworm> ChocoCid: agreed
[04:44] <wd> ChocoCid  educate me krita?
[04:44] <ChocoCid> if you do any image editing at all, get krita
[04:44] <roughtrader> I just got my new Dell 2407WFP today
[04:44] <roughtrader> this display rocks
[04:44] <ChocoCid> i think sudo apt-get install krita gets it
[04:44] <bimberi> spiderworm: not really, reporting a bug is the best way to get a devs attention
[04:44] <spiderworm> wd: it's like gimp, but with a good interface, and layer folders!
[04:44] <wd>  ChocoCid better that inkscape?
[04:45] <ChocoCid> might have to get all of koffice
[04:45] <ChocoCid> wd: different
[04:45] <ChocoCid> inkscape is vectorbased
[04:45] <ChocoCid> krita is raster-based
[04:45] <abovett> Xaser, voraistos: will have to go now. Xaser: will try to check in 12.00am UK time tomorrow.
[04:45] <ChocoCid> they serve entirely different purposes
[04:45] <ChocoCid> really not comparable
[04:45] <spiderworm> im really happy about layer folders
[04:45] <spiderworm> wtf is up with gimp developers
[04:45] <ChocoCid> and it's not like you can't run both :P
[04:45] <wd> ChocoCid  ok. i just want to edit and tweak reg. jpegs and thngs.
[04:45] <ChocoCid> krita's pretty good at that
[04:45] <Clarrisa> sigh... I did an apt-get for imagemagick.  apt-get did it's thing...installed it, but I still can't find it on my damn drive..... argh!!
[04:45] <aSt3raL> anyone know how to install flash on amd64 edgy?
[04:45] <aSt3raL> im having problems
[04:45] <roughtrader> is it possible to configure port-forwarding with the gnome bittorrent client?
[04:45] <TaPiOn> Hi
[04:46] <ChocoCid> Clarrisa : it should be in your menus
[04:46] <cynical> aSt3raL: there is no 64-bit flash
[04:46] <dragoon> bimberi, how would I install personally-built packages through apt?
[04:46] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????
[04:46] <Flannel> dragoon: through dpkg not apt
[04:46] <wd> ChocoCid still dual booting like me or strictly linux?
[04:46] <cynical> roughtrader: you configure port forwarding using your router
[04:46] <aSt3raL> cynical: i have to compile from source then?
[04:46] <Clarrisa> chococid.  I'm only at the command line.... I don't have a gui installed
[04:46] <ChocoCid> wd: i "can" dual boot
[04:46] <spiderworm> dragoon: dpkg -i <package>\
[04:46] <spiderworm> oops
[04:46] <cynical> roughtrader: do you know the make and model of it?
[04:46] <spiderworm> without the trailing \
[04:46] <ChocoCid> Clarrisa : do "locate imagemagick | less"
[04:46] <voraistos> Xaser: i live in UK too... i need to go to bed :( sorry. but after install, launch  sudo wireshark. select your capture device and capture. you might see things by yourself
[04:46] <wd> ChocoCid but?
[04:46] <ChocoCid> wd: i don't ever load windows anymore
[04:47] <Flannel> aSt3raL: there's no source
[04:47] <abovett> funshineBear: have to go now. Try apt-get dist-upgrade a couple of times, then perhaps apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or xubuntu-desktop if that's what you're running).
[04:47] <cynical> aSt3raL: no, there is no amd64 version yet, and adobe has not yet announced when or if they will make one
[04:47] <holycow> ChocoCid, pretty cool eh?
[04:47] <regeya> satan, thy true name is edgy
[04:47] <wd> ChocoCid  u bold...lol    i wish i could.
[04:47] <roughtrader> cynical: i know how to configure the router, but gnome bittorrent has to know the port number
[04:47] <ChocoCid> why can't you?
[04:47] <dragoon> flannel spiderworm: Yeah, I know that, the question is then how do I lock those personally built packages so the inferior but updated edgy packages don't replace them.
[04:47] <wd> holycow  damn long time.
[04:47] <roughtrader> the number itself can be arbitrary
[04:47] <cynical> aSt3raL: most people just install a 32-bit binary of firefox for flash
[04:47] <Xaser> TYVM Voraistos
[04:47] <holycow> wd lol
[04:47] <holycow> wow
[04:47] <holycow> where ya been hidin?
[04:47] <ChocoCid> holycow: i've hated windows for years
[04:47] <regeya> c'mon, ubuntu-base and upstart list dhcp3-client as a dep?  meh.
[04:47] <aSt3raL> Flannel: what about the non-free version?
[04:47] <Flannel> dragoon: pinning them
[04:47] <wd> ChocoCid because of certain software.
[04:47] <jtf0518> I have to use and support Windows all day so I hardly ever load Windows at home....unless I'm feeling constipated.
[04:47] <ChocoCid> only recently got into linux because until i heard of ubuntu i thought linux was a server type thing
[04:47] <Flannel> aSt3raL: the non-free version is non-free because there is no source.
[04:48] <ChocoCid> the stuff the layperson "knows" about linux is quite awful
[04:48] <cynical> roughtrader: I've never used gnome bittorrent, it doesnt have preferences of some kind?
[04:48] <roughtrader> unfortunately, no
[04:48] <dragoon> Flannel, I thought pinning was for repositories, it works for local packages too?
[04:48] <spiderworm> dragoon: good question
[04:48] <aSt3raL> damn
[04:48] <wd> holycow  ubuntu blues, with that lexmard printer so i stuck with windows, but i just bought a linux / windows printer so i'll try it again... lol
[04:48] <cynical> ChocoCid: very true, everyone I know thinks its all command line and extremely complicated
[04:48] <ChocoCid> wd: which software exactly?
[04:48] <roughtrader> so is azureus any good? or does it consume all memory after a while of usage?
[04:48] <bruenig> roughtrader, crazy memory usage
[04:48] <cynical> roughtrader: damn, I would suggest at least using deluge if you dont like azureus
[04:48] <regeya> don't know how difficult it is to install transmission on this platform, but on os x I use transmission, and it > *
[04:49] <ChocoCid> roughtrader: i used azzy on windows before, i've used it on linux, the memory usage is basically java-type issues
[04:49] <ChocoCid> it's not much worse than firefox afaik
[04:49] <roughtrader> yeah
[04:49] <grndslm> soo...anybody gotta clue as to whether i need to add the windows user's name to my box before i can connect with samba??
[04:49] <bruenig> roughtrader, it is not uncommon for it to be running at 100 MB, at least it wasn't for me
[04:49] <cynical> roughtrader: no actually it doesnt. It uses only 80mb of memory on my computer
[04:49] <regeya> transmission should be gnome-philosophy-friendly too...don't know how hig-compliant it is
[04:49] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????
[04:49] <Flannel> grndslm: you don't
[04:49] <roughtrader> that's why I like C-based clients
[04:49] <Flannel> !samba | grndslm
[04:49] <ubotu> grndslm: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:49] <ChocoCid> !bittorrent
[04:49] <roughtrader> tomato torrent for mac and utorrent for windows are both great
[04:49] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional.   Most people have at least 512MB of memory these days
[04:49] <holycow> wd, we switched to brother
[04:49] <roughtrader> i'm not sure what client is like that for linux
[04:49] <holycow> all brother models work and they offer even debian installer
[04:49] <ChocoCid> Clarrisa: that means imagemagick isn't being found
[04:50] <Clarrisa> chococid and yet I know it just installed imagemagick a second ago
[04:50] <ChocoCid> that's... odd
[04:50] <wd> ChocoCid  uh oh another linux can beat windows speech....lol. well, ok i got one for u, my cell phone ring tone software, money ( i know there gnucash) no the same.
[04:50] <ChocoCid> type "man imagemagick" in the command line
[04:50] <cynical> roughtrader: well deluge is pretty light on the resources, unfortunately its not quite got all the functionality of utorrent.
[04:50] <holycow> brother btw, happens to be owned by lexmark of all things
[04:50] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????
[04:50] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????
[04:50] <holycow> >_>
[04:50] <ChocoCid> yeah, i didn't like gnucash
[04:50] <bruenig> cynical, for a bittorrent client, I think it is. I guess it depends on your system and your thoughts on how much a bittorrent client should consume. When something so singular in its purpose and so limited in its purpose takes up 2X as much RAM as a browser or some other fairly dynamic app, that seems a bit much
[04:50] <bruenig> cynical, also considering the alternatives are so much lighter
[04:50] <wd> holycow thats aweful,  i mean lexmark is crap and brother got the good end of the stick...lol
[04:51] <Clarrisa> chococid if I type apt-get -f -y install imagemagick again, it says "imagemagick is already the newest version.
[04:51] <holycow> so far brother is rocking our socks
[04:51] <ChocoCid> Clarrisa: could try remove and install again
[04:51] <roughtrader> hmmm
[04:51] <Cronh> alguien de espaa,porfavor?
[04:51] <ChocoCid> the one thing I know windows has that isn't quite as good on linux is a spreadsheet program
[04:51] <bruenig> !es
[04:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:51] <holycow> products are really handling well ... very surprising
[04:51] <roughtrader> the issue here is only the port-forwarding
[04:51] <wd> holycow i have a hp 3100 series all in one and i made sure it was linux compatible.
[04:51] <ChocoCid> excel is > oocalc :(
[04:51] <Clarrisa> cd usr
[04:51] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????
[04:51] <Clarrisa> cd bin
[04:51] <spiderworm> Cronh: que deseas
[04:51] <Clarrisa> oops
[04:51] <holycow> wd it is?
[04:51] <cynical> bruenig: well I have 1GB of memory, and to be honest, when using windows I could understand calling azureus a memory hog. But in linux I rarely use above 300MB, even after I load everything I could possibly use at one time
[04:51] <ChocoCid> lol, i do that all the time Clarrisa
[04:51] <roughtrader> if I could only get gnome bittorrent to be configured to the right port...
[04:51] <holycow> hp is known for having shit support for their scanners
[04:51] <Clarrisa> lol
[04:51] <ChocoCid> XSANE!
[04:51] <ChocoCid> <3
[04:52] <holycow> wd, coo to hear that you researched your hardware before you bought :)
[04:52] <ChocoCid> my parents had all kinds of issues with windows, they had winMe
[04:52] <pluto> Question about source list ~ What is the purpose of source list.d?
[04:52] <holycow> i wish everyone did that, then 3/4rs of the crap companies would dissapear out there
[04:52] <grndslm> Flannel, you got any idea why windows would require me to type in a username/pass to connect to samba?
[04:52] <ChocoCid> i set themselves up ubuntu and they've had no problems
[04:52] <bruenig> cynical, yeah. I am limited to 512 MB and I think my onboard graphics card reserves a portion of that. So I have to keep it a bit low
[04:52] <ColdFyre> can someone running dapper paste the cdrom line form /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:52] <wd> holycow well when i was at the store i went online to hp and saw the deb installer info on it before i bought it.
[04:52] <cynical> bruenig: so for me, it just seems moot to complain about memory usage, I mean any memory that isnt being used is being wasted (at least in windows, I understand linux has a way of dealing with unused memory)
[04:52] <ColdFyre> or pm me it
[04:52] <roughtrader> shoot, how do I group tar a bunch of tar.gz files?
[04:52] <Flannel> grndslm: because you need one, linux would too.  A samba username/password
[04:52] <holycow> wd, since when does hp have deb installers?
[04:52] <holycow> wow
[04:52] <roughtrader> I'm trying tar xzvf *.gz
[04:52] <roughtrader> but it's giving a bunch of errors
[04:53] <grndslm> Flannel, could you explain how i'd set that up?
[04:53] <cynical> Flannel: you dont need one
[04:53] <Flannel> grndslm: the links ubotu gave you has all that info
[04:53] <wd> holycow well it showed a linux installation page...
[04:53] <teledyn> roughtrader: uncompress or compress?
[04:53] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????
[04:53] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????
[04:53] <dragoon> Alright, looks like I can pin local packages, but it's complicated. Ah well.
[04:53] <roughtrader> teledyn: uncompress
[04:53] <holycow> wd,  thats VERY new.  they NEVER used to do that
[04:53] <_goofy_> anyone know of a program to tell me if a HDD is about to fail
[04:53] <bruenig> cynical, like right now, I have gaim, xchat, firefox, and utorrent running, and I am at 140 MB usage. It seems kind of absurd to have a bittorrent client consume nearly as much as all of that
[04:53] <grndslm> yea, i've read howtos for the past hour, and they're all different
[04:53] <alpha255> _goofy_, smart
[04:53] <Flannel> !repeat | TaPiOn
[04:53] <ubotu> TaPiOn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:53] <mkoby> I've got a Belkin 802.11g USB adaptor, and I'm having trouble getting it to work, can anyone help me?
[04:53] <bruenig> cynical, and rhythmbox, forgot to mention that
[04:53] <mkoby> !patience
[04:53] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:54] <alpha255> _goofy_, smart there should be a package that will check the smart status on the drive
[04:54] <Slor|AFK> Hello all
[04:54] <grndslm> Flannel, and there's like 100 different places where there's a separate need for a username...i don't get why this is so damn hard
[04:54] <bruenig> !hi | Slor|AFK
[04:54] <ubotu> Slor|AFK: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:54] <_tg_> I want to install ubuntu but someone told me I should back-up windows how can I do that
[04:54] <teledyn> roughtrader: for file in *.tar.gz; do tar -xzf $file; done
[04:54] <bruenig> _tg_, do you have a cd or dvd drive and some blank cd
[04:54] <bruenig> cd's or dvd's
[04:54] <roughtrader> teledyn: noted, but I get a stream of errors
[04:54] <Slor|AFK> I'm very new to Ubuntu (but old with Linux)
[04:55] <_tg_> I dont have any cds
[04:55] <roughtrader> tar: blahblah.tar.gz: Not found in archive
[04:55] <cynical> bruenig: Yes  you do have a good point. If there were a linux clients that supported encryption and dht I'd switch but until then some of us just dont even have a choice *sigh*. Azureus has so much functionality they really should look into optimizing it now, and lowering its memory usage
[04:55] <wd> holycow anyway i tried gentoo, but after 4 days of compiling and system on 34 of 154 apps i said forget it, it worked and was blazing fast. i like the concept of gentoo being "built for u" i mean the compiling to ur architecture and all but i figure ubuntu is just as fast if i chose xfce or fluxbox
[04:55] <Flannel> grndslm: you have a samba user/password, because samba needs to know who you are, and you might not want some users to be able to have samba access, which is why you need to set them up initially, instead of it re-using your linux ones
[04:55] <lib8264q> can someomne tell me the command for reconfiguring xserver-xorg ? ty
[04:55] <roughtrader> repeated for each file I try to group uncompress
[04:55] <bruenig> cynical, utorrent has it.......
[04:55] <holycow> wd actually all of that is crap gentoo users tell each other
[04:55] <teledyn> roughtrader: oops
[04:55] <cynical> bruenig: yes but I'd rather not wine my torrent client
[04:55] <akijikan> anyone:
[04:55] <wd> holycow no  lol
[04:55] <holycow> co compile you haveto have A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE
[04:55] <Slor> got a quick question - I want to install on a Sun Enterprise 420R .  Is there a preference between 6.06 and 6.10?
[04:55] <holycow> yes
[04:56] <eSeong> i wish i could get some help on my dlink dwl-122
[04:56] <lib8264q> can someomne tell me the command for reconfiguring xserver-xorg ?
[04:56] <eSeong> anyone here could get it to work on ubuntu ?
[04:56] <mkoby> Slor: Where's you get your's?
[04:56] <holycow> most self compiled apps are not even marginally optimal as they are compiled by know nothing noobs
[04:56] <teledyn> roughtrader: for file in *.tar.gz do; tar -xzf $file.tar.gz; done
[04:56] <Slor> the server?
[04:56] <wd> holycow hmmmj.
[04:56] <mkoby> Slor: Yes, I've got three.
[04:56] <Syco54645> cd #slackware
[04:56] <alpha255> what's the difference between the desktop and alternate iso download?
[04:56] <holycow> there are tons of tests out there that simply prove gentoo overall is slower than a simple debian base install
[04:56] <Slor> My office gave away some old equipment.
[04:56] <holycow> its all nonsense
[04:56] <teledyn> roughtrader: actually no.  the first one should have been correct
[04:56] <holycow> gentoo is great if your a dev and need that flexibility but
[04:56] <mkoby> Slor: But haven't played with them much, what are they like?
[04:56] <wd> holycow come on man
[04:57] <holycow> its also retarded because you still have that here with source packages
[04:57] <Slor> Where are you located, just for fun?
[04:57] <mkoby> Slor: Bethesda, MD.
[04:57] <bimberi> dragoon: using checkinstall (sorry got called away)
[04:57] <mkoby> Slor: You?
[04:57] <bruenig> holycow, it depends on the user. If you know what you are doing, it will probably be better. If you don't know or don't care to put the effort in maintaining a system like that, probably not.
[04:57] <perl_cont> sup
[04:57] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????
[04:57] <perl_cont> interest
[04:57] <holycow> wd, take it or leave it, i do this for a living.  research what i'm tellin gyou an dyou will see that for most use cases its completely correct
[04:57] <Slor> Ok.  Just wondered because I took this from a rack of 4.  Thought perhaps you were the other recipient. :)
[04:57] <eSeong> anyone here could get dlink dwl-122 usb to work on ubuntu ?
[04:57] <Clarrisa> what does it mean when I type exit and bash says "There are stopped jobs."  what do I do?
[04:57] <Slor> I'm in Indianapolis, IN.
[04:58] <holycow> bruenig, thats what i wrote actually ... most users don't know and will never actually gain the knowledge
[04:58] <mkoby> Slor: Nah, I bought mine without rails or bezels or any plastiat
[04:58] <dragoon> bimberi, ah, no, I built it as a standard deb already. And you can pin specific versions through /etc/apt/preferences, but thanks for the tip.
[04:58] <wd> holycow well, i know that ubuntu is fast with fluxbox and even faster with xfce but fluxbox doesn't work with nautilus and xfce's right click feature kept quitting on me after term closed.
[04:58] <holycow> you really haveto know your stuff to truly optimize things at that level
[04:58] <Slor> I'm not sure if I need to stick with the 6.06 that appears to be fully supported or if I should go to 6.10.
[04:58] <Slor> Oh, ok.
[04:58] <bimberi> Clarrisa: type 'fg' to bring them to the foreground
[04:58] <eSeong> ah sad, no one can help me =.=!
[04:58] <grndslm> 6.10!!!!
[04:58] <Slor> The plastic just breaks anyway.
[04:58] <mkoby> Slor: I'd stick with 6.06, because it's only going to get more refined and polished.
[04:59] <Slor> wow this is a busy channel.
[04:59] <bimberi> dragoon: np, yes I think synaptic plays with that file.  It just provides a nice interface :)
[04:59] <Clarrisa> bimberi.... oh no , now I am in some endless loop from when I typed find blah | less
[04:59] <alpha255> what's the difference between the desktop and alternate iso?
[04:59] <bruenig> holycow, ok, well I agree then. It looked like you were making a real blanket statement there. Gentoo is also fun because it forces you to  learn more, which some people need. Some people if given the option to just click something instead of understanding it will probably choose the former unless they weren't given that option. So gentoo can also serve that purpose
[04:59] <bimberi> Clarrisa: ctrl-C
[04:59] <teledyn> eSeong: google is your best bet for a specific model like that
[04:59] <holycow> bruenig, thats what its fore yup
[04:59] <bimberi> !alternate | alpha255
[04:59] <ubotu> alpha255: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:59] <holycow> it is very much a ricer distro :)
[04:59] <eSeong> teledyn : i tried mostly on the ubuntu forum, i still can't get work..
[04:59] <cynical> alpha255: the alternate iso provides a text based installer for slower computers while the desktop iso is a livecd, letting you test ubuntu without actually installing it on your computer
[05:00] <dragoon> bimberi, well, it didn't seem to want to in this case, probably because my self-built files weren't in the repo. Ah, the waste that could be avoided if the devs actually upgraded the program when they bumped the version!
[05:00] <Gex> personally i liked gentoo.. i just didn't like how it took hours to emerge something like openoffice.
[05:00] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????
[05:00] <bimberi> alpha255: whereas the desktop cd is a live cd
[05:00] <cynical> alpha255: its recommended to use the desktop cd if you have a computer with above 200MB of memory and around an 800mhz processor
[05:00] <Slor> Oh, one other thing
[05:00] <bimberi> dragoon: kk
[05:00] <wd> holycow  hey i just upgrade to amd sempron 2800, 512 ram, feel like a big dog.... lol... anyway edgy works but i'm reading alot of 64 amd problems in forums. i uninstalled and partitioned. can i run 32 bit on my amd64?
[05:00] <eSeong> teledyn : unless, someone have a working dlink dwl-122....
[05:00] <Slor> Does the SPARC build support multi-processor out of th box?
[05:00] <alpha255> cynical, thnx :)
[05:00] <mkoby> wd: Yes.
[05:00] <Slor> or will I need to rebuild the kernel
[05:00] <cynical> alpha255: sure :)
[05:01] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ?????
[05:01] <wd> mkoby no
[05:01] <alpha255> cynical, I can install from the live/desktop cd too right?
[05:01] <holycow> wd,  not sure i don't run 64 bit as its pointless
[05:01] <mkoby> wd: It won't use the 64 bit features, though.
[05:01] <Gex> TaPiOn: it should say on the bottom left
[05:01] <jrib> TaPiOn: view > stream and media info, don't be afraid to explore the menus
[05:01] <mkoby> wd: Oh?
[05:01] <chapium> gex, me too.. i screwed a few things up, went to reinstall and lost patience.  The frustration was exacerbated by a funky heat monitor on the motherboard that thinks its over heating if its halfway compiling through openoffice
[05:01] <cynical> alpha255: yes, when you boot there will be a small icon on your desktop labeled, install
[05:01] <wd> holycow dang..... why u say that?
[05:01] <wd> holycow lol
[05:01] <alpha255> cycom, sweet thanks! :)
[05:01] <TaPiOn> How can I know the video lenght with vlc ???? in a shell !!
[05:01] <chapium> holycow: best handle ever
[05:01] <holycow> nothing can use 64 bit cpus except things that need 64 bit registers or things that need access to a lot of ram
[05:02] <wd> mkoby which features?
[05:02] <teledyn> TaPiOn: stop flooding the channel with the same question every 10s please
[05:02] <holycow> :)
[05:02] <cynical> 64-bit isnt pointless
[05:02] <TaPiOn> teledyn awser me
[05:02] <cynical> in certain applications it can make a huge difference in speed
[05:02] <TaPiOn> please
[05:02] <TaPiOn> :)
[05:02] <wd> holycow uh oh, cynical has spoken..lol
[05:02] <cynical> but the hassle for beginners usually isnt worth it
[05:02] <cynical> :P
[05:02] <teledyn> TaPiOn: actually, you're going on my ignore list right now.  bye
[05:02] <Earthen> anyway to do a quick repair after a failed upgrade atempt
[05:02] <wd> cynical get em
[05:02] <TaPiOn> fu teledyn
[05:03] <mkoby> wd: I really don't know, I think it's more on a low-level difference.
[05:03] <wd> cynical  lol
[05:03] <holycow> typically you only see performance gains with 64 bit with things like 3d renderers, video editing, etc.  very few users even have a clue as to what 64 bit really is
[05:03] <Gex> chapium: oh man... i first loaded it onto an old laptop.. and it was my first linux experience.. so it was good.. but the late nights troubleshooting through things like ndiswrapper wireless stuff almost killed me.
[05:03] <cynical> compare compiling or encoding video using a 32-bit and a 64-bit processor
[05:03] <jimmygoon> Can I get some help quickly: I need to use the LiveCD ... but I need access to the DVD drive to burn a backup dvd (bit of a frantic emergency right now!!!!)
[05:03] <jimmygoon> What do I do?
[05:03] <mkoby> ndiswrapper is a bitch to configure.
[05:03] <cynical> the difference is huge
[05:03] <holycow> compiling would be another yes
[05:03] <holycow> but then again, regular users don't compile or use gentoo
[05:03] <eSeong> anyone here could get dlink dwl-122 usb to work on ubuntu ?
[05:03] <wd> cynical processing graphic?
[05:03] <cynical> holycow: but yes I agree with you, most users are in over their heads when they try to use it
[05:04] <Slor> I compile plenty, but gentoo is still a little more effort than I care to go to at installation.
[05:04] <holycow> graphics are handled by gpu at this point unless of course your running linux with vesa in which case you still won't see any difference
[05:04] <akijikan> anyone: I made a modeline for my 1440x900 monitor using http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl and when I reset x server the monitor lost signal and it never came back
[05:04] <cynical> wd: you see the differences in a lot of memory intensive apps
[05:04] <cynical> yes it wouldn't make much of a difference in gaming really
[05:05] <wd> cynical holycow well i did the 64 edgy, but wine doesn't work, and 32 codecs, so darn , do i have to downgrade to 32?
[05:05] <jeff__> how do i copy and paste in CLI if mouse doesn't work? (My xserver is broken)
[05:05] <holycow> wd, its linux dude, you don't haveto call nobody to get an activation code
[05:05] <holycow> reinstall
[05:05] <teledyn> jeff__: gpm
[05:05] <cynical> wd: Well for wmv support you just have to compile mplayer
[05:05] <jimmygoon> Can I get some help quickly: I need to use the LiveCD ... but I need access to the DVD drive to burn a backup dvd (bit of a frantic emergency right now!!!!)
[05:05] <cynical> wd: the latest version supports it natively
[05:06] <wd> holycow lol
[05:06] <teledyn> jeff__: but beware because it can mess up mouse support under x
[05:06] <wd> cynical  ok so get the mplayer tar and compile?
[05:06] <NightHawke> dapper and a intel 915 video chipset, i cant see the full sized install screen
[05:06] <holycow> wd now i remember you, you like to do everything the hard way
[05:06] <holycow> *cough*
[05:06] <holycow> >_>
[05:06] <wd> holycow   hey......lol
[05:06] <Gex> wd you can probably just use apt-get to install mplayer.
[05:06] <jeff__> teledyn: so what should i do? how can i know if it will in fact make a problem?
[05:06] <holycow> j/k :)
[05:07] <wd> Gex thanks
[05:07] <Earthen> Are allot of people have trouble upgrading to edgy
[05:07] <wd> holycow ok i'm going to try this again.
[05:07] <teledyn> jeff__: read the docs about editing your xorg config for use with gpm
[05:07] <NightHawke> how can i force the display to change to 800x600 or higher?
[05:07] <holycow> if you believe slashdot Earthen then yes, but then again if you believe slashdot ronald mcdonald is real
[05:07] <holycow> hows THAT for a non answer?
[05:07] <holycow> >_>
[05:07] <holycow> :)
[05:07] <Slor> well crap - illegal instruction trying to install 6.06
[05:07] <Earthen> lol
[05:07] <mkoby> holycow: Well said.
[05:07] <jeff__> teledyn: ok
[05:08] <nick_> hello gentlemen, anyone try out compiz in the new edgy?
[05:08] <cynical> wd: no you have to compile mplayer
[05:08] <wd> holycow cynical look, i just dl illustrator and studio 8 for windows, linux can't pull off apps like those. can it? gimp, no.
[05:08] <Earthen> well I tryed it and now my gnome crashes when I try to reboot or shut down and it has killed my wifi card LOL
[05:08] <tritium> cynical: mplayer is in the repos
[05:08] <jimmygoon> Can I get some help quickly: I need to use the LiveCD ... but I need access to the DVD drive to burn a backup dvd (bit of a frantic emergency right now!!!!)
[05:08] <Lathiat> jimmygoon: can't do that im afraid
[05:08] <Lathiat> jimmygoon: need a second cd drive
[05:09] <cynical> tritium: not the latest version. He wants wmv support on 64-bit edgy, you have to compile mplayer for that
[05:09] <holycow> wd, and we JUST KNOW that you paid for those ... right?
[05:09] <chimpsky> jimmygoon: it's not that hard to create your own usb key from the live cd
[05:09] <holycow> *wink* *wink*
[05:09] <chad> what is the chmod command..to add user rights?
[05:09] <alpha255> nick_, compiz worked in dapper on my centrino notebook
[05:09] <teledyn> jimmygoon: rsync your data off the drive via network
[05:09] <cynical> chad: chown username /path/to/directory
[05:09] <alpha255> :)
[05:09] <chimpsky> jimmygoon: I had to do it in order to install on my intel forsaken 965 board
[05:09] <wd> holycow why of course..... wink
[05:09] <holycow> when you actually pay for any of your adobe products than come back here and gloat
[05:09] <holycow> :)
[05:09] <chad> 755?
[05:09] <chad> oh..ok
[05:10] <Flannel> chad: change file permissions.  chown changes file owners, both usually shouldn't be used.
[05:10] <regeya> whew.
[05:10] <regeya> all is well.
[05:10] <jimmygoon> no time :( thanks guys... any other ideas... how much would it kill me to enable ntfs-3g on a livecd of dapper?
[05:10] <cynical> yes I assumed you wanted to change owners
[05:10] <Flannel> chad: or rather, most of the time your permission issues should be dealt with with sudo, not chown/chmodding
[05:10] <wd> holycow i did uuuhhhh, it cost me a a lot of money...
[05:10] <holycow> riiiight
[05:10] <nick_> alpha225: arent there just a few commands that will enable it in edgy?
[05:10] <chad> well..i installed vmware player as root.. and now i need to start it from console all the time with sudo
[05:10] <alpha255> ahh just make everyting 777  ;)  << ment to be sarcstic
[05:11] <alpha255> sarcastic
[05:11] <mkoby> holycow: would you know how to get a Belkin
[05:11] <holycow> belkin what?
[05:11] <eSeong> anyone here could get dlink dwl-122 usb to work on ubuntu ?......
[05:11] <mkoby> holycow: would you know how to get a Belkin 802.11g USB adapter to work?
[05:11] <teledyn> jimmygoon: throw another drive in the machine
[05:11] <mkoby> holycow: f*cking enter key.
[05:11] <totall_6_7> eSeong: your question was answered:  <teledyn> eSeong: google is your best bet for a specific model like that
[05:11] <jimmygoon> teledyn: its a laptop :(
[05:11] <holycow> mkoby, nope dude, sorry, i research products and buy only what is known to work, not the other way :/
[05:11] <jimmygoon> the only ext-hd we have is NTFS :(
[05:11] <wd> cynical compile mplayer? get the tar.gz? how?
[05:11] <holycow> appologies
[05:11] <regeya> I had assigned eth0 a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, ans some wiseacre made the decision to a.) automagically run dhcpclient on boot and b.) make dhcp a requirement
[05:12] <regeya> take that, joker
[05:12] <teledyn> jimmygoon: external usb drive?
[05:12] <bimberi> jimmygoon: can you copy files to another PC via the network?
[05:12] <mkoby> holycow: Would you be able to recommend something that will?
[05:12] <cynical> wd: http://www3.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/MPlayer-1.0rc1.tar.bz2
[05:12] <tritium> mkoby: watch the near-foul langauge, please
[05:12] <mkoby> tritium: Pardon me.
[05:12] <withaY> is it possible to easily configure a static ip if you're using wpa_supplicant & network-manager-gnome?
[05:12] <tritium> mkoby: no worries
[05:13] <alpha255> eSeong, google had quite a few entries, and it should work
[05:13] <akijikan> anyone: I made a modeline for my 1440x900 monitor using http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl and when I reset x server the monitor lost signal and it never came back same when I start up
[05:13] <wd> cynical i'm there, i'm on windows, i'll save it and load ubuntu and handle that. thanks.
[05:13] <jimmygoon> bimberi: thats what I'm gonna do... that or he's gonna have to shuttle stuff (imgaine floppies) with my 2gig (fat32) jumpdrive!
[05:13] <eSeong> alpha255 : okie, i'll try again then.. :(
[05:13] <cynical> wd: np
[05:13] <holycow> mkoby, not offhand, i mean for wireless pci/x cards its a google, if your using the usb dealie because your laptop wireless isn't supported i would google up pcmcia wireless cards those are also listed on the same page of supported cards on the ubuntu wiki
[05:13] <regeya> noticed on boot that my xorg.conf had been rewritten as well.  will it be left alone from now on, or am I being driven back to gentoo...
[05:14] <mkoby> holycow: Thanks for the help!
[05:14] <holycow> np
[05:14] <Seeker2599> how do i set my internal ip address?
[05:14] <teledyn> Seeker2599: man interfaces
[05:14] <wd> cynical hey, if i compile everything in ubuntu would it be to my advantage? verses precompiled apps?
[05:15] <victorh> Hi, I'm having a problem with my network configuration
[05:15] <tritium> wd: not really, no
[05:15] <holycow> lol
[05:15] <Seeker2599> teledyn: wheres that?
[05:15] <wd> tritiumoh
[05:15] <wd> tritium   oh
[05:15] <holycow> man wd you really LOOOOOOOVE doing everything the hard way
[05:15] <holycow> :)
[05:15] <holycow> hehehe
[05:15] <phI||Ip> whats that command to determine if you have 3d enabled?
[05:15] <teledyn> Seeker2599: type that in a console
[05:15] <Seeker2599> ok
[05:15] <wd> holycow   lol
[05:15] <holycow> wd, i bug ya, its cool the only way to learn actually
[05:15] <wd> holycow just want the best ubuntu can offer
[05:16] <CientificoLoco> hello everybaody I have a problem with a DVD if I want to copy file it starts to copy but ins some tell me that makes me fail with my laptop. je.
[05:16] <victorh> ubuntu edgy eft is using the driver dmfe for my ethernet driver. But this driver doesn't work with my card, I need to use the tulip driver
[05:16] <Slor> I've tried both 6.10 and 6.06 on my Sun server, and both have ended with Illegal Instruction during ramdisk load.  Anything specific I should try next?
[05:16] <wd> holycow remember when i dive in i really dive in...lol
[05:16] <Seeker2599> teledyn: ok now what
[05:16] <CientificoLoco> there is something that I can install and speed my reader DVD?
[05:16] <teledyn> Seeker2599: read what it says
[05:16] <Katsu|> How do i change my 6.10 to Japanese language?
[05:16] <victorh> How can I configure my card in ubuntu edgy eft?
[05:17] <CientificoLoco> victorh: which one card?
[05:17] <puneit> hi... I was upgrading from dapper to edgy and on restart X has failed to load...can anyone help
[05:17] <victorh> it's a Davicom card
[05:17] <wd> tritium  it's just that , well, everytime i load ubuntu and give a twirl, after loading apps it get's all slow.
[05:17] <victorh> an ethernet card
[05:18] <CientificoLoco> it confinges automatic when you install ubuntu
[05:18] <cynical> wd: well yes, generally its better to compile apps against your specific architecture
[05:18] <wd> tritium thats why i tried gentoo
[05:18] <wd> cynical  ok
[05:18] <wd> cynical  but wasting time huh?
[05:18] <Seeker2599> ty teledyn
[05:18] <victorh> in other distros I use the tulip driver but ubuntu has chosen the dmfe driver
[05:18] <tritium> wd: in general, you get diminishing returns for all the effort
[05:18] <wd> tritium  oh i see.
[05:18] <victorh> until now I have failed to change that configuration
[05:18] <akijikan> does ANYONE here know ANYTHING about modelines in xorg.conf
[05:18] <withaY> how can i assign myself a static ip when connecting through network-manager-gnome?
[05:18] <cynical> wd: some people dispute whether or not its faster. I personally noticed a big difference when I was using gentoo. Unfortunately it just takes too long to configure every single setting, so I decided not to deal with it :P
[05:18] <victorh> in ohter distros I change it in /etc/modprobe.conf
[05:18] <puneit> hi... I was upgrading from dapper to edgy and on restart X has failed to load...can anyone help
[05:19] <regeya> akijikan: I know mine got nuked on upgrade, and it better not happen again
[05:19] <victorh> but there is no such file in ubuntu
[05:19] <wd> cynical  ok.   i really see.  yeah after day 5 i quit on the minimal install.  lol
[05:19] <phI||Ip> how do I test to see if 3d is enabled?
[05:19] <Katsu|> How do I change language to Japanese?
[05:19] <teledyn> puneit: check the x server log for errors
[05:19] <puneit> teledyn: how do i do that
[05:19] <grndslm> cynical...definitely needed to use the default conf file, chmoded directory for luck, & smbpasswd
[05:20] <puneit> teledyn: I am kind of a novice
[05:20] <CientificoLoco> how do I accelerate my CD/DVD reader?
[05:20] <wd> cynical holycow  tritium   r u guys solely on linux or still dual booting
[05:20] <tritium> CientificoLoco: make sure dma is enabled
[05:20] <teledyn> puneit: logs are kept in /var/log/
[05:20] <tritium> wd: I have linux, Mac OS X, and Windows
[05:20] <CientificoLoco> dma tritium??
[05:20] <puneit> teledyn: ok...what do I need to see in the log and what can I do with it
[05:21] <teledyn> puneit: less <log file name>
[05:21] <regeya> puneit: make sure xserver-xorg is installed.  if it is, /etc/X11/xorg.conf probably got toasted.  you should have a backup in /etc/X11 tho.
[05:21] <tritium> !dma
[05:21] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:21] <CientificoLoco> tritium: how can I do tthat?
[05:21] <tritium> see baove
[05:21] <tritium> above even ;)
[05:21] <regeya> puneit:  also, if you're an ubuntu user, make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed, kubuntu-desktop if you're a kubuntu user...I had a fair amount of trouble with the upgrade meself.
[05:22] <puneit> regeya: I am an ubuntu user..
[05:22] <AdamKili> does ubuntu get fragmented like windows does? do i need to run a defragmenter?
[05:22] <regeya> puneit: the good news is that most the problems are pretty easy to fix
[05:22] <tritium> wd: and you?
[05:22] <puneit> regeya: Once I have located the backup file..what do I do
[05:22] <holycow> AdamKili, no, remember this: forget everything you learned on windows ... its wrong.
[05:22] <wd> tritium  by the way, how do i get that deleted linux partition which is showing up in xp as unallocated space back into my win partition anyway?
[05:23] <Kingsqueak> http://www.kingsqueak.org/stuff/tilt_cube.png   a rough Beryl screenshot if anyone was curious
[05:23] <regeya> AdamKili: the only time you'll run into major fragmentation is if you run out of storage space and delete/create a lot
[05:23] <regeya> AdamKili: I think the max I've had in the last few years is about 8% fragmentation...no, it's not a concern :-D
[05:23] <wd> tritium   well, winxp / linux  but edgy was very edgy on some apps, so deleted partitioned but i'm thinking about gong back right now.
[05:23] <tritium> wd: you could use gparted or qtparted to grow the windows partition, I believe
[05:23] <picasso> hi.. i just upgraded to 6.10 on my dell laptop (ati videocard) and now my xwindows wont load up
[05:23] <tritium> wd: going back to what?
[05:23] <AdamKili> regeya: where do i check my fragmentation?
[05:24] <picasso> anybody know what i can try?
[05:24] <regeya> AdamKili: it's not a concern, trust me :-D  you'd get a report if you have to run fsck manually at some point
[05:24] <Xiocide> Would anyone be willing to give me some help using Ubuntu's Live setup to fix my MBR?
[05:24] <holycow> just as a notice to anyone repartitioning IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO GROW/SHRINK NTFS PARTITIONS
[05:24] <holycow> unless your nicely backed up
[05:24] <Kingsqueak> I blew my XP up the last time I did that
[05:24] <Kingsqueak> worked for four systems, blew the install for one
[05:25] <tritium> holycow: your nicely backed up what?
[05:25] <AdamKili> i just want to check....my dad's wondering about it
[05:25] <wd> tritium ok. going back to ubuntu tonight. another try at it. i got frustrated about wine not supported for amd 64 and win 32 codecs and i read something about chroot then install codecs, oh my ,  head start spinning..lol
[05:25] <Kingsqueak> use partition magic or XP to shrink first to be sure
[05:25] <Xiocide> I reformatted a secondary drive, and now I get "error 17" from GRUB. I want to use Ubuntu to fix/repair my MBR so that my primary partition (XP) boots.
[05:25] <tritium> ah, holycow meant "you're", not "your"
[05:25] <picasso> "module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)"
[05:25] <tritium> wd: cool :)
[05:25] <picasso> does anyone know what causes tat error?
[05:25] <holycow> tritium, lol
[05:25] <holycow> :)
[05:25] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide you used the installer to shrink the part?
[05:25] <wd> holycow well in that case how can u get the parttion back if u delete the linux partiton?
[05:26] <lukeb> when I use beryl as my window manager, the borders to all my windows disappear
[05:26] <tritium> wd: if you want wine, stick with 32-bit to avoid frustration
[05:26] <lukeb> did i install it incorrectly?
[05:26] <holycow> picasso, grub cant find your kernel.  i forget what the fix is but theres a bunch of things on google for that.  i fixed it once but don't remember how
[05:26] <Xiocide> King: I have XP all alone on one drive. I had SuSE on a second IDE drive, but reformatted it to NTFS to store some DVDs on..
[05:26] <Kingsqueak> lukeb it probably crashed if you have no borders
[05:26] <lukeb> ic
[05:26] <wd> tritium so use dapper?
[05:26] <Xiocide> King: after that, when I reboot, I get that grub error; now I'm trying to get my maind rive to boot.
[05:26] <puneit> regeya: kindly tell me how to restore to the original xorg.conf
[05:26] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide ah, you just need to get the entries sorted out in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:26] <regeya> oh, um, puneit if you're in /etc/X11 you could just try to cp xorg.conf.whatevertheextensionis xorg.conf that's essentially what I did
[05:27] <picasso> hrm, holycow, any suggestion for google search terms?
[05:27] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide try googling or the ubuntu wiki for that, there's a trick to it
[05:27] <puneit> regeya: thanks
[05:27] <elw> what the hell is a symbol in the context of the "strip" command?
[05:27] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide has to do with 'hiding' and tricking XP to think it's on the first drive in the system
[05:27] <Xiocide> King: the only file in /boot/grub is device.map
[05:27] <regeya> puneit: patience.  I have a 1.5 year old in this house.  YOU tell her someone wants xorg.conf fixed right now plsthx :-)
[05:27] <AdamKili> is anyone else having trouble with the gDeslets official site? i can't download any desklets. are there other sites with desklets?
[05:27] <tritium> wd: you can use dapper or edgy.  your choice
[05:27] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide odd, so Grub is your boot loader right?
[05:27] <Xiocide> King: yes, well it was.
[05:27] <tritium> elw: calm down, amigo
[05:28] <chimpsky> anyone here have luck getting an nvidia 7900gs running?
[05:28] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide so when you boot you get nothing or just trouble with XP?
[05:28] <Xiocide> King: I get nothing. GRUB "loads" and then craps out saying "Error 17"
[05:29] <Kingsqueak> lukeb click on the ruby and tell it to restart beryl or use the window manager menu in there to re-select beryl, see if it starts up again
[05:29] <puneit> regeya: I have done that...let me now restart and see if it works..thanks a lot... i will log back in if it doesn't work...
[05:29] <astx813> OK, on average, how many people are having 'easy' upgrades from Dapper?
[05:29] <CientificoLoco> tritium: sorry can you pass me the site again I had to reboot my laptop becouse for cause od my CD reader
[05:29] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide ah ok, you need a 'install Grub HOWTO' then
[05:29] <lukeb> Kingsqueak, it just reverts to compiz (which incidentalyl doesnt have window borders either)
[05:29] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide pretty sure I've seen that all mapped out on the wiki
[05:29] <Xiocide> King: what if I want to remove GRUB? (since I only have XP now)
[05:29] <Kingsqueak> lukeb ah, not sure there, you enabled glx in xorg.conf right?
[05:30] <wd> tritium  kde uses more resources right?  i mean gnome is simple  but my box keeps slowing down after a few apps are installed. i'm thinking about something lite, fluxbox, but doesn't play nice with nautilus, at least it didn't.
[05:30] <Kingsqueak> lukeb just to check, you have nvidia or ati for a card right?
[05:30] <lukeb> Kingsqueak, Nvidia - im pretty sure its enabled ill check
[05:30] <ubuntu_newb> I love ubuntu, it was so easy to set up a web server on my ubuntu machine
[05:30] <ubuntu_newb> I don't even have the server edition
[05:30] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide ah, you need to run the Windows mbr thing to fix that, I'm totally not sure what the command is
[05:30] <wd> ubuntu_newb was that hard?
[05:30] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide you fix that with a util on Win install media though
[05:30] <Xiocide> King: it's fixmbr but I dont have an XP disc
[05:30] <ubuntu_newb> no, I downloaded a file and it installed and configured everything
[05:31] <Kingsqueak> lukeb go through the howto for installing/configuring Beryl on the Ubuntu wiki
[05:31] <CorpseFeeder> if I click on the "audio" tab in winecfg it crashes with error "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" - what do I need to do to fix this?
[05:31] <lukeb> Kingsqueak, yeah thats how I installed it
[05:31] <astx813> I've got ndiswrapper, and it works if I do modprobe ndiswrapper, but it's not coming up on its own when I reboot (yes, I've tried ndiswrapper -m)
[05:31] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide k, well you could try installing Grub and just using that to chain load XP
[05:31] <lukeb> Kingsqueak, xorg.conf does say Load           "glx"
[05:31] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide just use the live cd and follow one of the howtos for installing GRUB
[05:31] <ubuntu_newb> you can see that my server is up at http://act.homelinux.com
[05:31] <Kingsqueak> lukeb you disabled dri and glcore too right?
[05:32] <wd> ubuntu_newb web server as in ur own website box kept at home for ur website? or a like a fileserver for multiple computers at home to save files on?
[05:32] <Xiocide> King: any certain howto you'd recommend?
[05:32] <wd> ubuntu_newb  i'm going there now.
[05:32] <ubuntu_newb> it's a full featured apache webserver with php mysql etc...
[05:32] <Kingsqueak> lukeb err not glcore, but comment out dri
[05:32] <ubuntu_newb> I'm using it for testing purposes
[05:32] <h3htimo> could someone explain to me why mesa keeps installing when i use this?? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[05:33] <Kingsqueak> Xiocide not specifically, just look for any general how to install GRUB and just keep in mind that the root(0,0) drive declarations are to point at your XP drive
[05:33] <Xiocide> King: ok thanks
[05:33] <lukeb> Kingsqueak, its not even there. ill try restarting the PC brb
[05:33] <astx813> I'd rather avoid ndiswrapper, but as far as I know it's mandatory for Broadcom chips
[05:33] <wd> ubuntu_newb having a hard time loading page
[05:34] <lnxmacusr> testing
[05:34] <ubuntu_newb> there is no page
[05:34] <ubuntu_newb> it will just bring you to a directory
[05:35] <wd> ubuntu_newb  i'll keep trying
[05:35] <ubuntu_newb> http://act.homelinux.com
[05:35] <ubuntu_newb> that is the address to my server.
[05:35] <grndslm> ubuntu_newb...definitely no directory
[05:35] <rredd4> i just installed edgy, it installed the generic kernel.  I need to install ndiswrapper, in the past, i had to have the 686 kernel.   Will ndiswrapper work with the generic kernel?
[05:36] <ubuntu_newb> hmm...
[05:36] <astx813> rredd4: Yeah, the generic stands in nicely for 686
[05:36] <ubuntu_newb> here is the package I used to make my ubuntu a web server...
[05:36] <ubuntu_newb> http://seveas.imbrandon.com/pool/edgy-seveas/seveas-meta/ubuntu-lamp_6.10-2_all.deb
[05:36] <wd> ubuntu_newb thanks
[05:36] <ubuntu_newb> use that link to download the ubuntu package
[05:36] <rein> hi anybody know how I can get a ati card to use graphics accel?
[05:36] <ubuntu_newb> just run the package and it will install/configure your server
[05:36] <rredd4> astx813  ok, guess i will try... ty
[05:37] <ubuntu_newb> it will install apache2 php5 and mysql 5
[05:37] <amy__>  /server gimpnet
[05:37] <lukeb> Kingsqueak, it worked - all it needed was a reboot hehe
[05:37] <Kingsqueak> cool
[05:37] <rein> I have fglrx install
[05:37] <grndslm> ubuntu_newb...you either need to refresh dyndns's record of your ip...and/or forward port 80 requests from your router to your server's local ip (i.e. - <IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:37] <ubuntu_newb> yeah I did that but perhaps my ip changed on this computer
[05:37] <Kingsqueak> lukeb the module loading is a bit weird at times on boot, I put gdm in to start at level 90 in inits and it helped quite a lot
[05:37] <ubuntu_newb> how can I see my ip on ubuntu?
[05:38] <ubuntu_newb> local ip that is
[05:38] <surekha> Can someone help me setting up SSI on apache2 on ubuntu dapper?
[05:38] <grndslm> ifconfig
[05:38] <sparr> ifconfig
[05:38] <Kingsqueak> lukeb if that means nothing to you, just ignore it ;-)
[05:38] <ubuntu_newb> thanks
[05:38] <surekha> I tried everything mentioned in this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerSideIncludes
[05:38] <surekha> but no luck
[05:38] <grndslm> ubuntu_newb, if you want a static ip on your local ip....you need to set it in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:38] <lukeb> Kingsqueak, consider it ignored :D
[05:38] <firebird619> I have Edgy installed. My graphics are built-in Intel i810. In Synaptic, both xserver-xorg-video-i810 and xserver-xorg-video-i740 packages are installed. Should the xserver-xorg-video-i740 package be installed?
[05:39] <rredd4> astx813  when i want to install nvidia glx, it also wants to install the 386 kernel, which i don't want.  What do i do please?
[05:39] <Kingsqueak> lukeb Beryl tip, hit your mouse cursor in each corner, try it with multiple things open on multiple desktops
[05:39] <MoRpHeUz> hi guys...I'm having an interesting problem on a notebook with dual core processor. The kernel is already compiled with SMP but "cat /proc/cpuinfo" keeps showing only one core...do you have any ideas where can be the problem ?
[05:39] <wd> tritium what do u recom. for a speedy ubuntu? fluxbox or xfce?
[05:39] <astx813> rredd4: dunno, haven't gotten that far
[05:39] <lukeb> Kingsqueak, holy crap thats awesome
[05:39] <Kingsqueak> lukeb ctrl-alt- arrow keys too
[05:40] <Emess> is there a way to set wine to act as xp in its look, or even the kde and beryl theme im using?
[05:40] <elw> how do you list all the channels?
[05:40] <Kingsqueak> lukeb ctrl-alt click and drag with left mouse button too
[05:40] <astx813> Is anyone having luck with a broadcom wi-fi chipset?
[05:40] <bimberi> firebird619: it just means that the driver is available, not necessarily used.
[05:40] <Emess> probably the best feature of beryl si ont eh edge fo teh screen the windows list
[05:40] <Kingsqueak> Emess , windows list?
[05:41] <bimberi> !broadcom
[05:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:41] <CorpseFeeder> winecfg crashes when I click the audio tab. "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457: (snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" and also "Error: "/home/name/.kde/socket-name-desktop" is not a link or a directory."
[05:41] <grndslm> ubuntu_newb, this is exactly what you need to do to setup a static ip on your local lan: http://pastebin.ca/233850
[05:41] <Emess> it shows allt eh windows spread over it to select
[05:41] <firebird619> bimberi: It is acually installed though?
[05:41] <picasso> Ok. According to ubuntuforums, I need to install package xserver-org-video-all to get my video drivers (newly upgraded 6.10) ... however apt-cache search xserver-org-video doesn't find anything
[05:41] <Kingsqueak> Emess ah  ctrl-alt-d  ?
[05:41] <grndslm> ubuntu_newb, just make sure to set your ip outside the range of dhcp on your router
[05:41] <rredd4> has anyone install nvidia glx in edgy?  i want to use the generic kernel.  But the nvidia glx install also wants me to install the 386 kernel.  What do i do?
[05:41] <Kingsqueak> Emess err  ctrl-alt-spcbar
[05:41] <picasso> anyone know why i couldnt find xserver-org-video-all or xserver-org-video-ati packages?
[05:41] <bimberi> firebird619: yes, the package and its files are installed, the driver wouldn't be in use though.  That package is installed on my system and I have nvidia
[05:42] <elw> hOw Do YoU list all of the channels?
[05:42] <rredd4> "/list"
[05:42] <Emess> Kingsqueak: ctrl-alt-d? ctrl-alt-spcbr? they didnt do anything...
[05:42] <rredd4> no quotes
[05:42] <bigslam> ./list yea:P
[05:42] <Kingsqueak> elw  /list  but it's huge , do   /list something to search for
[05:42] <bigslam> ./list linux
[05:42] <grndslm> elw, you can't list all the channels on freenode...go to searchirc.com or something like that
[05:42] <elw> odd, its not working for me
[05:43] <bigslam> yea you can
[05:43] <Kingsqueak> Emess ah? 'd' was a mistake but ctrl-alt-space  should flatten all your desktops
[05:43] <bigslam> it depends on the server
[05:43] <GaiaX11> Suppose  I am doing a dist-upgrade and the light is off. Will my system break?
[05:43] <grndslm> nope...searchirc.com
[05:43] <firebird619> bimberi: I was just wondering because I have been having problems with Ubuntu, something with gdm and drivers.
[05:43] <bigslam> the leaf
[05:43] <Kingsqueak> Emess maybe different versions of Beryl
[05:43] <Music_Shuffle> GaiaX11: Which light...?
[05:43] <chimpsky> GaiaX11: are you running under windows with the shades up?
[05:43] <elw> hey, what does this code do ? ":(){ :|:& };:"
[05:44] <GaiaX11> Music_Shuffle: I mean the electric energy
[05:44] <Emess> Kingsqueak: desktops being the faces of the cube? i used to have 6 virtuals but now im limited to 4 :(
[05:44] <Kingsqueak> GaiaX11 if you mean the power goes out, yeah it could be a problem for sure
[05:44] <CorpseFeeder> /list with no .
[05:44] <bimberi> elw: it's a fork bomb, don't paste it again please
[05:44] <Music_Shuffle> GaiaX11: Ouch. ./Sympathy.
[05:44] <Kingsqueak> Emess yup
[05:44] <Kingsqueak> Emess you probably have it, but mapped to different keys than I do
[05:44] <bruenig> 6 virtuals, my god, for what purpose?
[05:44] <Emess> also, does nayone know how to make beryl display on ehte windows on the current cube face on that faces taskbar instead of every window?
[05:44] <Music_Shuffle> Don't cubes usually have 6 faces? Sounds like a good enough purpose to having 6. :P
[05:44] <Kingsqueak> Emess top right corner with mouse cursor
[05:44] <Emess> ctrl-alt-d dpoes it for me lol
[05:45] <Emess> Kingsqueak: that works on all corners
[05:45] <picasso> hooray, it works, i typed xserver-xorg-video-all wrong (xserver-org-video-all)
[05:45] <Emess> i knew that one alrady
[05:45] <Kingsqueak> Emess it's different in each corner on mine
[05:45] <CorpseFeeder> how do I stop winecfg from crashing?
[05:45] <Emess> what should it do in each corner?
[05:45] <Kingsqueak> Emess lower right is clear, upper is expose current, lower left is expose all open apps
[05:45] <Kingsqueak> I forget what upper left is
[05:45] <Keyseir> Where do I go to check what hardware I have connected? Ubuntu Dapper
[05:46] <GaiaX11> Kingsqueak: But, can i start from where it stopped?
[05:46] <leofender> hi
[05:46] <Emess> Kingsqueak: theyr allt eh same for me
[05:46] <leofender> hi to all
[05:46] <gib_> Is there a hack that will allow transparent endcaps on panels in Gnome?
[05:46] <Kingsqueak> GaiaX11 not likely, I would STRONGLY recommend you don't do an upgrade with an unstable connection or power issue
[05:46] <Kingsqueak> Emess ah, odd
[05:46] <Kingsqueak> Emess F-keys maybe?
[05:46] <CorpseFeeder> is there a separate channel on here for wine specific help?
[05:46] <leofender> you know some linux game for play on line ?
[05:47] <Kingsqueak> F10 F11 F12 etc
[05:47] <Keyseir> How do I see what hardware I have connected?
[05:47] <Kingsqueak> Keyseir what type?
[05:47] <Keyseir> I'm looking for specs on my dvd burner
[05:47] <Keyseir> so, media drives
[05:47] <Emess> F8 does teh same as corner
[05:47] <Kingsqueak> try cdrecord -inq driveropts=drivequery  I think
[05:48] <chapium> keyseir google the model #
[05:48] <leofender> play some linux game ?
[05:48] <noxxle> im trying to share a folder with a windows xp system on my network. however when my friend tries to access my folder it asks him for a username and pass. WTF
[05:48] <h3htimo> why do i keep getting the mesa driver and not ati whenever i do an fglrxinfo???
[05:48] <leofender> hii!