[09:43] <_tcc> as gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was
[09:43] <scav> WTF
[09:43] <barongas> viper: then type in deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:43] <_tcc>  gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was g
[09:44] <kijutsu> wtf
[09:44] <darkheart> !tell smudo about upgrade
[09:44] <opqdonut> durt: i have added all that are in the guide. could it be that this package doesn't exist for amd64?
[09:44] <_tcc> onna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was gonna say thati was g
[09:44] <Belutz> !op
[09:44] <ubotu> Belutz: No idea
[09:44] <_mike> funkyHat, you here?
[09:44] <_tcc> holy
[09:44] <Belutz> !ops
[09:44] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[09:44] <_tcc> holy hell
[09:44] <viper> tcc STOP THAT
[09:44] <_tcc> sry
[09:44] <_tcc> i wi;;
[09:44] <somedude_> scav, can u check /etc/samba/gdbcommands and se whats in that file? or even better see which package the file came with?
[09:44] <_tcc> will
[09:44] <JairunCaloth> gotta love ignore
[09:44] <_tcc> im done
[09:44] <kijutsu> My laptop dies at ACPI: subsystem revision 20050211; any idea what causes such?  It is a Sony Vaio PCG-FX190
[09:44] <LokeDK> _tcc, you are always welcome on my ignore
[09:44] <kijutsu> haw
[09:44] <HappyFool> hmm. why does coreutils not appear as an entry in the main info directory? odd.
[09:45] <_mike> funkyHat, im in UbuntuLive, now how would i partition my disc?
[09:45] <scav> somedude_, only thing there is to works
[09:45] <scav> bt
[09:45] <scav> quit
[09:45] <_tcc> :)
[09:45] <_tcc> i alays wished
[09:45] <scav> words
[09:45] <viper> barongas: when i do that this blank this opens in the terminal
[09:45] <durt> opqdonut: you need to hoary extras repo i think
[09:45] <James_Ward> Okay, udev isn't creating md0.  Anyone know how to fixy this?
[09:45] <funkyHat> _mike, open a terminal, and type sudo apt-get install gparted
[09:45] <opqdonut> durt: k what is the line
[09:45] <dawkirst> Does anyone have any experience with a amd64-bit port? I'm trying to run an executable.
[09:45] <_mike> ok
[09:46] <Lever> Last week a kernel upgrade for the k7 kernel was issued via synaptic. How would I go about reverting to the version I had before this upgrade?
[09:46] <funkyHat> once that's done, sudo gparted
[09:46] <barongas> viper: when you type nano /etc/apt/sources.list it's blank?
[09:46] <somedude_> scav, ok.. thanks! Do u know which pkg it came with?
[09:46] <opqdonut> dawkirst: i'm running it now
[09:46] <viper> yea
[09:46] <durt> oqpdonut:deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:46] <durt> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:46] <opqdonut> thx
[09:46] <viper> well now its not
[09:46] <viper> now it worked
[09:46] <smudo> darheart:  thanks...running now.  =-)
[09:46] <_mike> funkyHat, there is no GParted package
[09:46] <funkyHat> hmm...
[09:47] <opqdonut> durt: yah i've got those
[09:47] <James_Ward> Does aanyone know how to configure udev to create md0?
[09:47] <viper> barongas: then what do i do?
[09:47] <smudo> dark:  does it work the same to downgrade?
[09:47] <scav> samba-common i believe
[09:47] <leo1> what is web author in Ubuntu (like frontpage n so on ... ) ?
[09:47] <somedude_> scav, please do this: "sudo dpkg -l | grep gdbcommands" and let me know what u get?
[09:47] <barongas> viper: was the sources.list blank or did you see lots of sources in it?
[09:47] <leo1> want to creage webpage in Ubuntu.
[09:47] <somedude_> i have reinstalled samba-common and the file still wont show up!
[09:48] <darkheart> smudo Err..I think if you try to downgrade, you might break a lot of things. I don't really mess w/ breezy, so someone else might know that answer, sorry.
[09:48] <scav> lars@RING05074:~$ sudo dpkg -l | grep gdbcommands
[09:48] <scav> lars@RING05074:~$
[09:48] <scav> nothing
[09:48] <durt> opqdonut: try searching for the package you need at apt-get.org
[09:48] <HappyFool> LokeDK: you can get more info on file permissions by typing 'info coreutils' at the command-line; i'm afraid i can't offer a very good solution for creating webpages, though
[09:48] <scav> :|
[09:48] <somedude_> scav. aargh
[09:48] <viper> first it was blank, i tried it again, and it has code in it now
[09:48] <reiki_work> leo1: you can look for nvu or install Bluefish. Bluefish is not WYSIWYG
[09:48] <robotgeek> smudo: u did create a separate /home partition right?
[09:48] <opqdonut> durt: will do
[09:48] <buulian> can you use c++ to write the Linux installer
[09:48] <somedude_> scav, annoying!! but thanks for trying! :)
[09:48] <HappyFool> LokeDK: I suspect there is a standard solution; perhaps if you ask again later, some will tell you
[09:48] <smudo> robotgeek:  nope
[09:48] <LokeDK> okay.. thanks :)
[09:48] <funkyHat> _mike, try enabling universe
[09:49] <_mike> ok
[09:49] <robotgeek> see, if you had done that, a reinstall would be relatively painless
[09:49] <Ivan> Hello all
[09:49] <buulian> what progamming language is the Ubuntu Linux install program written in?
[09:49] <pamungkas> hey guys thanks, i finally found wmaker
[09:49] <_mike> funkeyHat, how do i enable universe
[09:49] <linukso> buulian: perl I think
[09:49] <barongas> viper: cool now insert a line deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:49] <smudo> robotgeek:  hehehe...true.  Some day I'll learn to do the same on my play machines as I do on my production machines.
[09:50] <HappyFool> somedude_: good question; never noticed that file before
[09:50] <linukso> buulian: but there has been some talk on porting the debian installer to python
[09:50] <funkyHat> _mike, (click settings > repositories, click the second item in the list 'ubuntu 5.04 "hoary.....' and click edit, in the sections box, add a space and then universe)
[09:50] <buulian> linukso, can one use c++ to do the same job?
[09:50] <funkyHat> so it reads main restricted universe
[09:50] <_mike> ok
[09:50] <Tarcastil> hello, is there a log file that stores the text from the bootup screen?
[09:50] <linukso> buulian: you could, but there is _really_ no reason to write it in C++
[09:51] <darkheart> LokeDK I think this site will help you some http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html
[09:51] <somedude_> HappyFool, crap.. i didnt put it there and accedently removed it.. trying to restore the folder to how it was.. but im stuck with that file.. on the other hand SAMBA is working.. but somehing isnt.. dont know what :P
[09:51] <HappyFool> somedude_: it appears to be a part of the samba-common package
[09:51] <opqdonut> durt: there is only an i386 version. can i install that? i'm running amd64
[09:51] <Ivan> Hey guys, I was wondering if someone could give me some help with booting up Ubuntu on my computer
[09:51] <buulian> linukso, is perl best for that job?
[09:51] <viper> that line already exists in that file
[09:51] <HappyFool> somedude_: maybe if you reinstall that, it will return
[09:51] <funkyHat> _mike, sorry, that was in synaptic, just realised i wasn't telling you the synaptic way before
[09:51] <robotgeek> buulian: python :)
[09:51] <somedude_> HappyFool, hmm.. so if i remove the samba-common pack and install it - it should come back right??
[09:51] <linukso> buulian: perl or python might be a wise choice
[09:51] <barongas> viper: The entire line? with hoary-extras and multiverse?
[09:51] <buulian> linukso, thank you very much
[09:51] <HappyFool> somedude_: or just reinstall: 'sudo aptitude reinstall samba-common'
[09:51] <viper> yea
[09:52] <LokeDK> i'll look at it darkheart - thanks a lot
[09:52] <barongas> viper: ok, ctrl-c and then type apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:52] <_mike> E: Couldn't find package gparted
[09:52] <buulian> linukso, do you know of a way to make it so when booting i can have a boot screen instead of the startup text?
[09:52] <HappyFool> !info gparted
[09:52] <robotgeek> somedude_: or "sudo aptitude purge samba-common && sudo aptitude install samba-common"
[09:52] <ubotu> gparted: (partition editor for GNOME), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.8+cvs2005022001-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 303 kB, Installed size: 1152 kB
[09:52] <ms12> with nautilus in breezy there is now address bar when running browser option?
[09:53] <somedude_> HappyFool, it didnt work.. :( ill try your tip robotgeek! .. just a sec
[09:53] <_mike> funkyHat, i dont think it worked
[09:53] <Yabden> there are various kernel patches that can add bootup screens (bootsplash and fbsplash come to mind)
[09:53] <funkyHat> _mike, did you sudo apt-get update or click reload in synaptic?
[09:53] <robertlee> anybody know where i can find a driver for my orinoco pci adapter
[09:53] <_mike> yes i reloaded in synaptic
[09:53] <funkyHat> how annoying...
[09:53] <durt> opqdonut: you could also try searching here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[09:53] <Ivan> anyone able to help me out with a Live bootup on an AMD64 Athlon laptop?
[09:53] <barongas> viper: afk a minute
[09:54] <viper> ok
[09:54] <_mike> funkyHat, i searched synaptic and a parted is already installed and its a partition tool, should i use it?
[09:54] <liquidfire> !start desktop war
[09:54] <ubotu> liquidfire: No idea
[09:54] <opqdonut> durt: k
[09:54] <liquidfire> !start a desktop war
[09:54] <ubotu> e is much better than xfce!
[09:54] <robotgeek> !lart ubotu
[09:54] <Seveas> :)
[09:54] <robotgeek> :)
[09:55] <somedude_> robotgeek, hehe.. now my /etc/samba folder is TOTALLY empty???
[09:55] <funkyHat> _mike, parted is a command line based partition tool
[09:55] <Seveas> !botsnack
[09:55] <ubotu> :)
[09:55] <Ivan> anyone?
[09:55] <robotgeek> somedude_: isn't that what u wanted?
[09:55] <sexcopter8000m> in linux in general, how can i find out what distro is running from shell?
[09:55] <_mike> funkyHat, if you helped me i could probably use it
[09:55] <funkyHat> yes you can use it though
[09:55] <somedude_> robotgeek, nooooooo.. hahaha.. i wanted it to be restored!
[09:55] <funkyHat> guys, will parted properly resize ext3 partitions?
[09:55] <opqdonut> durt: no luck
[09:56] <robotgeek> somedude_: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba-common"
[09:56] <Ivan> can anyone read this??
[09:56] <somedude_> robotgeek, ok please hold! ;)
[09:56] <_mike> funkyHat, how would i go about using it
[09:56] <crashd>  i	no
[09:57] <durt> opqdonut: try here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36577.html
[09:57] <HappyFool> somedude_: see here for some info on the file: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/03/msg01844.html   -- it's probably not that important; mine has just two lines, one with 'bt' and the other with 'quit'
[09:57] <jorge_> I need somebody with ubunto on a toshiba satellite, mine is A45-S250
[09:57] <ms12> how to execute a log on script with an xsession. I used to put the script in .xsession and run the default in gdm. I want to run this script with openbox any help is appreciated
[09:57] <HappyFool> somedude_: it probably just generates a backtrace if something goes wrong
[09:57] <durt> jorge i have one
[09:57] <funkyHat> _mike, do mount
[09:57] <funkyHat> this will list your partitions
[09:57] <robotgeek> ms12: k
[09:57] <jorge_> man do you know how the Fn key works
[09:57] <Ivan> testing
[09:57] <durt> jorge_: what's wrong?
[09:58] <funkyHat> _mike, pastebin or #flood the output
[09:58] <funkyHat> !pastebin
[09:58] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:58] <jorge_> I wanted to install toshiba utils, to be able to swith dysplays
[09:58] <ms12> robotgeek ?
[09:58] <HappyFool> somedude_: ah-ha -- look in /usr/share/samba/panic-action -- that's where gdbcommands gets used
[09:58] <jorge_> but it doesnt work
[09:58] <_mike> funkyHat, i posted it in #flood
[09:58] <barongas> viper: back, how's it going?
[09:58] <durt> between lcd and crt?
[09:58] <viper> still freezes
[09:58] <viper> :(
[09:59] <rtcm> hello, anyone knows where is libXp.so.6 in breezy?
[09:59] <jorge_> Ujum
[09:59] <jorge_> yes
[09:59] <robotgeek> ms12: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34239 (openbox + gnome) or http://icculus.org/openbox/docs.php?page=build.html#install-xdm (for only openbox)
[09:59] <somedude_> HappyFool, robotgeek, OMG.. i was standing in the samba folder all the time issuing all your commands.. did a ls -lah and nada.. BUT when i cd out of the dir and did a ls -lah samba/ all the files showed up!.. is that supposed to happen???
[09:59] <durt> do you have the toshiba_acpi installed?
[09:59] <BirdFish> Where can I find a print driver for a deskjet g85?
[09:59] <jorge_> Did you maked work?
[09:59] <jorge_> nope
[09:59] <durt> ok hold on
[10:00] <somedude_> dont get me wrong, im happy.. the files are back hehe.. but yeah well u know.. weird!!
[10:00] <HappyFool> somedude_: the /etc/samba directory was removed when you did a purge
[10:00] <robotgeek> somedude_: maybe not, maybe yes...who knows these things!
[10:00] <barongas> viper :Did you get an authentication warning?
[10:00] <funkyHat> haha, sorry _mike just realised that lists mounted partitions, the one you want to edit isn't mounted
[10:00] <HappyFool> somedude_: the directory you were listing was some non-existent (ie. deleted) dir
[10:00] <viper> no
[10:00] <jorge_> I try to install toshutils-2.0.1 but it doesnt work
[10:00] <viper> no errors
[10:00] <funkyHat> not being very helpful here am i
[10:00] <Ivan> Testing
[10:00] <somedude_> HappyFool, but it was replaced?
[10:00] <viper> just freezes when i press play
[10:00] <_mike> wuteve
[10:00] <_mike> r
[10:00] <HappyFool> somedude_: indeed, as you've seen
[10:00] <robotgeek> Ivan: just state your problem, some one will help you
[10:00] <barongas> viper: Ok, that's good. That means the packages aren't down
[10:01] <viper> its fixable?
[10:01] <navilon> does anyone know how to boot an Ubuntu live CD (PPC edition) on an old performa 5xxx series?
[10:01] <barongas> viper: try apt-get remove gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:01] <somedude_> HappyFool, but i did a ls -lah a second before and it was empty, then cd .. and then ls -lah samba/ and POFF.. all is well..
[10:01] <durt> jorge_: edit /etc/modules.conf so that "toshiba_acpi" is in there
[10:01] <funkyHat> impatience.... i could have helped him if he'd given me a chance ;)
[10:01] <viper> i found this sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[10:01] <CookedGryphon> where does firefox store its cookies in win xp? cos i want to transfer them direct to my ubuntu firefox, is this possible?
[10:01] <smudo> !upgrade
[10:01] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:01] <robotgeek> navilon: never tried that...old world mac, huh
[10:01] <ms12> robotgeek thanks i ve read those threads. I want to run openbox as stand alone not a window manager for gnome. And the openbox reference just say consult gdm manual
[10:01] <jorge_> Ok
[10:01] <Ivan> hey guys, i'm having a problem doing a live boot on my laptop...it looks like it boots correctly, but when it gets to the logo (Linux for human beings) it freezes...anyone know what's happening?
[10:01] <barongas> viper: mad should cover mp3s
[10:01] <HappyFool> somedude_: the 'CWD' got muddled when /etc/samba was erased by the 'purge'
[10:02] <durt> jorge_: then "sudo modprobe toshiba_acpi"
[10:02] <barongas> viper: Then apt-get update to make sure
[10:02] <robotgeek> ms12: i ended up using kdm + openbox, i din't want to mess with gdm
[10:02] <viper> ok
[10:02] <navilon> does anyone know how to boot an Ubuntu live CD (PPC edition) on an old performa 5xxx series?
[10:02] <HappyFool> somedude_: your CWD was some nebulous nowhere; and when the new /etc/samba was created, you were not there, but still in limbo
[10:02] <barongas> viper: Then apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad again
[10:02] <leo1> NVU(web author) has different types for OSs , which one can i use for Ubuntu ?
[10:02] <somedude_> HappyFool, ok.. i think i understand.. well olmost! And thats good enough!! haha.. many thanks to you both!! :))
[10:02] <somedude_> robotgeek too
[10:02] <robotgeek> somedude_: np
[10:03] <viper> brb
[10:03] <barongas> viper: oh yeah and sudo before all the apt-gets
[10:03] <ms12> robotgeek ok thanx for your help. Will try to do more search on it thanx again
[10:03] <jorge_> I dont hace modules.conf
[10:03] <jorge_> have*
[10:03] <palmero> hi, just installed ubuntu and am trying to get shfs to work. I get the following error msg: shfsmount: shfs filesystem not supported by the kernel. Any ideas?
[10:03] <roham_> Why does eggdrop install so weird
[10:03] <roham_> ?
[10:03] <icewt> leol, http://cvs.nvu.com/download/nvu-1.0-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2
[10:04] <durt> jorge_: my bad: /etc/modules
[10:04] <jorge_> ok
[10:04] <robotgeek> jorge_: the 2.6 kernel doesn't use modules.conf, it uses /etc/modprobe.d/
[10:04] <durt> jorge_: sudo gedit /etc/modules
[10:04] <icewt> er.. i mean leo1
[10:04] <Ivan> anyone able to help me out? having a problem with live cd booting and freezing...
[10:04] <barongas> palmero: try instlaling shfs-source shfs-utils
[10:04] <roham_> I installed eggdrop through synaptic
[10:04] <roham_> is it bad?
[10:05] <dystopia> is there some user-friendly way to get ndiswrapper set up?
[10:05] <Seveas> yes
[10:05] <Seveas> roham_, try supybot instead
[10:05] <Seveas> and don't play woth bots in here :)
[10:05] <palmero> barongas: already installed
[10:05] <roham_> Seveas: no I like eggdrop
[10:05] <jorge_> ok
[10:05] <roham_> Seveas: but should I install it by my self
[10:05] <barongas> palmero: Hmmm
[10:05] <jorge_> I got the module file
[10:05] <Ivan> anyone?
[10:05] <roham_> Seveas: with the source file?
[10:05] <durt> jorge_: and have you "sudo modprobe toshiba_acpi"?
[10:05] <zenrox> ya take the bot building questions to #ubuntuforums at least
[10:06] <Seveas> roham_, no, installing from the repositories is better
[10:06] <HappyFool> !info eggdrop
[10:06] <ubotu> eggdrop: (Advanced IRC Robot), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 1.6.17-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 459 kB, Installed size: 1144 kB
[10:06] <Seveas> Ivan, try a few different acpi parameters
[10:06] <jorge_> do I download toshiba_acpi?
[10:06] <Sammi_> I am trying to install emacs and I followed the instructions ('cd' to the directory, then './configure',) but then it couldn't find gcc or cc and it gave me the error "configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH".
[10:06] <barongas> palmero: check out http://www.ma.utexas.edu/users/stirling/computergeek/lufs.html and see if it helps you
[10:06] <roham_> Seveas: but where are the eggdrop dir?
[10:06] <durt> jorge_: no
[10:06] <durt> jorge_: where are you
[10:06] <palmero> barongas: Thanx, will do :)
[10:06] <reiki_work> anyone wanna hear why you don't NEED to run SpamAssassin with Evolution? :)  After I spent 2 days getting it working to my satisfaction?  Well...  Evolution USES SpamAssassin if you simply install spamassassin and turn on junk filter in evolution..
[10:07] <zenrox> Sammi_,  install emacs fro mthe ubuntu reporsties
[10:07] <HappyFool> Seveas: i guess it was the first thing i installed then :P
[10:07] <durt> jorge_: have you added the line "toshiba_acpi" to /etc/modules?
[10:07] <Seveas> HappyFool, you've gone to the dark side :)
[10:07] <reiki_work> so... my spamassassin filter waas catching less and less spam because Evolutions junk filter runs before anything else
[10:07] <earl_> Hello, can anyone answer my n00b question??
[10:07] <roham_> Seveas: so the bin file is in bin, and the modules in lib... ok but where should the conf file be then?
[10:07] <jorge_> no Im going to add it
[10:07] <HappyFool> Seveas: together we can rule the galaxy!
[10:07] <HappyFool> Sammi_: you can install emacs from synaptic, or using apt-get
[10:07] <earl_> i am trying to install some ATI drivers...
[10:07] <smudo> earl_:  depends
[10:08] <reiki_work> and it LEARNED so quick, the mail wasn't even MAKING it to my spamassassin filter! :)
[10:08] <earl_> and when I went to the ATI site it told me to download a .run file
[10:08] <Seveas> DON'T
[10:08] <earl_> i'm not exactly sure what to do with it.
[10:08] <Seveas> !ati
[10:08] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:08] <Ivan> Seveas, what do you mean by different acpi parrameters? I'm brand new to linux, and not too boot-savvy
[10:08] <jorge_> I add it at the end
[10:08] <jorge_> of the file
[10:08] <earl_> oh. that has what i need then?
[10:08] <Seveas> Ivan, try acpi=off as boot parameter
[10:08] <smudo> !tell earl about ati
[10:08] <Seveas> earl_, that wikipage describes what to do
[10:08] <earl_> thank you
[10:09] <roham_> Seveas: so the bin file is in bin, and the modules in lib... ok but where should the conf file be then?
[10:09] <roham_> usr/xxx
[10:09] <Ivan> Ok, i'll give it a shot. thanks, and ill be back to tell ya if it worked
[10:09] <HappyFool> Sammi_: emacs is on the ubuntu install CD -- or you can install it off the net
[10:09] <Seveas> roham_, you should create one yourself, probably there's an example in the docs dir
[10:09] <Seveas> /usr/share/doc/eggdrop/
[10:09] <puff> Anybody familiar with rhythmplayer?
[10:09] <Sammi_> Hmm.
[10:10] <roham_> Seveas: yes I have and I put it in my home dir
[10:10] <KeepItReal> i have just installed this .deb file by console...
[10:10] <KeepItReal> Creating images... done.
[10:10] <KeepItReal> Starting Win4Lin Pro: done.
[10:10] <viper> erm, it didnt work
[10:10] <roham_> seveas: but the eggdrop -m gather.conf says that it cant find the modules dir...
[10:10] <KeepItReal> now where can i find the program ?
[10:10] <roham_> seveas: like this /.../home/user/modules
[10:11] <Seveas> roham_, you might need to specify it...
[10:11] <hunab> somebody to install notmd?
[10:11] <HappyFool> KeepItReal: try 'dpkg -L <packagename>|grep bin'
[10:11] <roham_> Seveas; thats the bad thing... I hade eggdrop before... and I had everything under one dir...
[10:11] <reiki_work> eggdrops have come a long way... we ran several on #windows 10 years ago when I was an opper there on efnet.  :P
[10:13] <Seveas> creating eggdrop script in emacs is even more evil :)
[10:13] <windex> all text editors are equally evil. the evil is not the in the editor, but in the text. </zen>
[10:13] <HappyFool> hunab: what's notmd ?
[10:13] <Seveas> :)
[10:13] <hunab> notmd is a manager netmd of sony in unix
[10:14] <KeepItReal> like this HappyFool sudo dpkg -L win4linpro_6.1.1-03_i386.deb grep bin
[10:14] <KeepItReal>  ?
[10:14] <HappyFool> KeepItReal: try 'dpkg -L win4linpro|grep bin'
[10:14] <KeepItReal> ok
[10:14] <HappyFool> KeepItReal: note the | (maybe above backslash)
[10:14] <liquidfire> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i1519 hehe check my background :)
[10:14] <liquidfire> it's really cool :D
[10:15] <roham_> Seveas; [22:14]  Can't load modules channels: /etc/modules/channels.so: cannot open shared object file: Not a directory
[10:15] <HappyFool> hunab: not me, sorry
[10:15] <roham_> Seveas: and now I have the conf file in etc
[10:15] <Seveas> roham_, shouldn't that be /usr/lib/eggdrop/modules ?
[10:15] <roham_> Seveas: it is
[10:15] <Seveas> then put it correctly in the config...
[10:16] <roham_> Seveas but then I need to put the conf file in /usr/lib/eggdrop
[10:16] <KeepItReal> thanks HappyFool !
[10:16] <Seveas> roham_, no
[10:16] <Seveas> you should put the correct path in the config...
[10:16] <roham_> oh
[10:17] <roham_> Seveas: I gonna uninstall it
[10:17] <JHK> i need a tool for convert msf/mds images to iso images
[10:18] <JHK> sry, it should be mdf/mds images
[10:19] <Ivan> seveas, I tried acpi=off..it still froze at the rectangle logo
[10:20] <BirdFish> Can you log into cups with ubuntu?
[10:20] <awb4422> Im looking to buy a new sound card and I want one that will work after a fresh install of ubuntu - anyone have any ideas or experiences?
[10:21] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[10:21] <palmero> barongas: now i've built and installed shfs and it seems to be working. I can mount but i can't get any access to the files the mountpoint once i've mounted
[10:21] <Lars_G> Seveas: Sir. I just came to tell, that I love ubuntu and you all people.
[10:21] <earl_> so i tried what it said on that wikipage, seveas... i'm not sure i did it right.
[10:21] <reiki_work> *feel the love!*
[10:21] <Lars_G> I just got my Ubuntu CDs, I didn't knew they included LiveCDs as well.
[10:22] <Lars_G> for the next month or so, every client I visit with linxu troubles will get an ubuntu set, so will my friends.
[10:22] <Lars_G> The onyl sad part is that seemingly Ubuntu didn't have any of the PPC cds I ordered (no ppc on the envelope at all), so I won't be able to distribute on the local Macintosh Users Group as I wanted to
[10:23] <liquidfire> nice Lars_G
[10:23] <reiki_work> Lars_G: I'm having a similar good experience with Ubuntu
[10:23] <liquidfire> :D
[10:23] <Lars_G> Yes, Ubuntu is refreshing
[10:23] <Blissex> Lars_G: Kubuntu!
[10:23] <HappyFool> maybe the ppc are distributed separately?
[10:23] <Ivan> After trying the acpi=off boot command, my Live CD bootup of Ubuntu freezes after playing the sound and getting to the rectangle logo...would anyone be able to help me out please?
[10:23] <reiki_work> and this channel has been a GREAT resource... even if they *don't* care to listen to all my ramblings about Evolution and spam control :)
[10:23] <Lars_G> HappyFool: Maybe but i ordered less PPC than ix86, and it would be cost ineffective for Ubuntu to send them separatedly.
[10:23] <HappyFool> the little warty boxes i saw had x86 live/install and amd64 in them, i think
[10:23] <KeepItReal> anyone knows any software to run an nokia .exe ???
[10:23] <BirdFish> How do you log into cups administration with ubuntu?
[10:23] <HappyFool> Lars_G: just guessing
[10:23] <srid> KeepItReal: wine
[10:24] <KeepItReal> okay tks
[10:24] <Ex-Cyber> awb4422: it's been quite a while since I've used an actual sound card (rather than onboard) but IIRC I had good results with the Creative/Ensoniq "AudioPCI" card... but if you are shopping for a soundcard for expanded hardware capabilities that may be a poor choice since it's a fairly basic card
[10:24] <Ex-Cyber> also since that was a while ago I don't know if they still sell it
[10:25] <reiki_work> Ex-Cyber: I have about 4 of those cards. That was a great card.
[10:25] <Lars_G> Ex-Cyber: Not anymore, but the Sound Blaster Live is a worthy sucessor.
[10:25] <awb4422> ex-cyber: at this point, i just want something that works. I bought an old school sb live off ebay, but the seller packaged it bad and now its damaged
[10:25] <Lars_G> Ex-Cyber: Plus, Midi-Wise the Live has better support under linux (with sfxload) than the AudioPCI
[10:25] <awb4422> i have an nforce2 chipset, but i only get audio out of the left speaker. I've tried everything....
[10:25] <awb4422> speakers work fine otherwise
[10:25] <earl_> can someone help me out with the installation of ATI drivers? (that wikipage kinda confused me)
[10:25] <leo1> In ubuntu graphical windows, some menus are fade and i can not use.
[10:26] <leo1> can anyone explain me, pls ?
[10:26] <Ex-Cyber> I had some goofy problems with SB Live hard locking my dad's system... it's probably fixed now but I know I wasn't the only person to encounter it... basically Creative fans blame VIA and VIA fans blame Creative and nobody seems to be able to give a straight answer about it
[10:26] <reiki_work> leo1: usually a faded menu section contains choices not relevant to what you're doing
[10:26] <jorge_> Anyone knows how to make the SD Card work on Ubuntu, I have a toshiba Satellite A45-S250
[10:26] <Lars_G> leo1: In general faded menu entries are entries that are not applicable or usseable at the current state/moment and thus are dissabled.
[10:26] <Sammi_> Anyway, thanks for helping out.
[10:26] <awb4422> ah i see. When i have my sound card in my system, the bootup process gets hung at "starting hotplug subsystem"
[10:27] <Lars_G> leo1: Dissabled entries, are faded to let you know theyr status
[10:27] <Ex-Cyber> I doubt that problem exists in current SB Live cards though since this was a card purchased quite a while ago, one of the original SB Live! Value cards
[10:27] <smudo> bai bai
[10:27] <puff> Hm, odd, my gnome terminal doesn't show the scroll bar.
[10:27] <Ivan> After trying the acpi=off boot command, my Live CD bootup of Ubuntu freezes after playing the sound and getting to the rectangle logo...would anyone be able to help me out please
[10:28] <Lars_G> leo1: If an option you NEED is faded, you need to reach a certain state/point to enable it. What point/state it is, depends on the option and what you're trying to do
[10:28] <Ivan> still*
[10:28] <puff> That is, the scroll bar is there, but it occupies the entire space, can't scroll back.
[10:28] <jorge_> Anyone knows how to make the SD Card work on Ubuntu, I have a toshiba Satellite A45-S250
[10:28] <puff> I seem to have scrolling enabled in the profile. Any ideas?
[10:29] <Lars_G> puff: And you have something to scroll back TO?
[10:29] <FR500> hello
[10:29] <puff> Lars_G: Yup.
[10:29] <FR500> is there any program similar to visio for linux?
[10:29] <puff> Just did "cvs -n update".
[10:29] <puff> And I can't scroll up and see the earlier part of the listing.
[10:29] <Lars_G> FR500: dia
[10:30] <Lars_G> FR500: For gnome, and kivio for KDE
[10:30] <earl_> can someone help me out with the installation of ATI drivers?
[10:30] <poningru> www.pcarchiv.com/fm
[10:30] <poningru> err thats not it
[10:30] <poningru> http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/
[10:30] <poningru> earl_: whats wrong?
[10:30] <earl_> um, i don't know how to do it.
[10:30] <poningru> what card are you using?
[10:30] <FR500> Lars_G: thanks
[10:30] <earl_> somoene gave me a wikipage that was supposed to explani it, but i'm not really good with linux so it didn't make sense to me.
[10:30] <leo1> for example, when i make new folder in /var/www/myfolder
[10:30] <earl_> radeon9600pro.
[10:31] <Ivan> no one would be willing to help?
[10:31] <Lars_G> leo1: and????
[10:31] <webby`> Hi, How come Crossover doesn't start up for me? I click on it and it does nothing. I'm using Breezy
[10:31] <poningru> what wiki page did they give?
[10:31] <leo1> i can't use (create folder) command on file menu
[10:31] <poningru> gotta go
[10:31] <Lars_G> webby`: Try to run it from the shell and see if it gives any error messages.
[10:31] <earl_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:31] <webby`> ok
[10:32] <leo1> but on desktop, menu works
[10:32] <uthini> arb, sound not working on my new mobo
[10:32] <HappyFool> earl_: how far did you get?
[10:32] <Lars_G> leo1: Permissology troubles.
[10:32] <earl_> well, i did the first step, and it downloaded something.
[10:32] <Lars_G> leo1: You'r use has not enough permissions to create a folder on the other location.
[10:32] <fourcheeze> Ivan: I'd love to help but I don't know how to :-)
[10:32] <leo1> how to ?
[10:32] <earl_> then the other steps are like "do this, and if it works restart." but I don't really know how to tell if it worked or not.
[10:33] <Lars_G> leo1: You need to learn more on unix type permissions, sorry I don't have a good link off the top of my head.
[10:33] <Ivan> fourcheeze: thats ok
[10:33] <HappyFool> earl_: fair enough. ok, you did the 'apt-get' step, right?
[10:33] <earl_> yup
[10:33] <fourcheeze> Ivan: I would suggest turning off more stuff
[10:33] <HappyFool> earl_: you're following the hoary instructions, right? (just to check)
[10:33] <earl_> yup.
[10:33] <earl_> 5.04.
[10:33] <fourcheeze> Ivan: checkout the help in the boot manager
[10:34] <HappyFool> earl_: ok, did you try step 2 or not yet?
[10:34] <Ivan> fourcheeze: the problem is, this is the first time i've tried using ubuntu..and I really don't know what to do. I did look in there, and I tried a BUNCH of diffrerent combinations, but none of them worked
[10:34] <leo1> but i can make mkdir command in terminal with root account
[10:35] <earl_> that's the line that starts with echo right?
[10:35] <HappyFool> earl_: if you want to see the effect of that command, you can type 'cat /etc/modules' before and after running it; after running it, you should see 'fglrx' added to the output of the 'cat' command
[10:35] <HappyFool> earl_: yip
[10:35] <earl_> I did that and all it did was write "Fglrx" under it
[10:35] <HappyFool> earl_: that's fine
[10:35] <bimberi> leo1, are you trying to create /var/www/<something>?
[10:35] <liquidfire> anyone know how to add a WPK key too an WG311T chipset ?
[10:36] <HappyFool> earl_: if you type 'cat /etc/modules', does the output end with 'fglrx' ?
[10:36] <leo1> yes
[10:36] <liquidfire> WPA-PSK or something
[10:36] <HappyFool> earl_: case is important
[10:36] <HappyFool> earl_: (i.e., fglrx, not Fglrx)
[10:36] <leo1> i use mkdir command in terminal
[10:36] <Lars_G> leo1: That is the part... with root account. when you open the file manager in X you're opening it with your user, not root.
[10:36] <leo1> it is work
[10:36] <Seveas> liquidfire, install wpasupplicant and read the wpahowto@wiki
[10:36] <bimberi> leo1: ok, what group does /var/www belong to (usually www-data iirc)
[10:36] <earl_> yes, it actually says fglrx twice now, since i did the step a second time when you told me to
[10:36] <Lars_G> leo1: If you want to open the file manager with root, you need to open it from a shell under su (root), or use a program like kdesu.
[10:36] <HappyFool> earl_: hmm
[10:36] <bimberi> leo1: ls -l /var/www
[10:37] <Lars_G> leo1: And be carefull, using a file manager as root needs for you to take each step with care or you can do lots of damage.
[10:37] <HappyFool> earl_: probably doesn't matter; if you like, you can remove the second with a text editor (e.g., 'sudo gedit /etc/modules')
[10:37] <orn72> could you get kmobiletools, or wammu/gammu working via apt-get isntall?
[10:37] <bimberi> leo1: oops    ls -ld /var/www
[10:37] <linlin> i need help :( i lost my user password
[10:37] <linlin> but
[10:37] <earl_> quick questions, what exactly does 'sudo' mean
[10:38] <Lars_G> bimberi: That will list contents. he needs ls -ld /var/www to see www's permissologies, and don't tell him to chown/chmod lightly, one needs to know how permissologies work before playing with chown/chmod or you'll fill your install with security holes
[10:38] <HappyFool> earl_: 'super-user do'
[10:38] <earl_> ah
[10:38] <linlin> i had gnome setup for auto login, so i can still use the computer
[10:38] <earl_> i see.
[10:38] <Lars_G> linlin: Are you the machine's owner?
[10:38] <linlin> yes i am
[10:38] <HappyFool> earl_: you can find out more here:
[10:38] <HappyFool> !sudo
[10:38] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:38] <linlin> its sitting next to me
[10:38] <linlin> i am the only one ever to use it
[10:38] <HappyFool> earl_: ok, did you try the sed command? (don't try it again if you have ;)
[10:38] <bimberi> Lars_G: i reckon he needs to be made a member of the appropriate group... (no chown, chmod required :) )
[10:38] <Lars_G> linlin: You can start with a live cd, mount your hard disk, then "chroot /<mountpoint>" to where it's mounted, and run "passwd <user>" to change it.
[10:39] <Lars_G> bimberi: Ahh well yes, that is a sane solution :)
[10:39] <webby`> Crossover still doesn't start up. I type crossover and crossover-standard in the shell and it says file not found but I see that's it's installed under applications
[10:39] <bimberi> Lars_G: ta, i try :)
[10:39] <linlin> what would /<mountpoint> be
[10:39] <earl_> i did, yes
[10:39] <linlin> /dev/hda?
[10:39] <jorge_> Anyone knows how to make the SD Card work
[10:39] <Lars_G> linlin: Any place you can mount the disk, normally debian/ubuntu provides an empty "/mnt" point you can use for these cases.
[10:39] <HappyFool> earl_: ok, to test that one, try 'grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:39] <Lars_G> jorge_: SD?
[10:40] <HappyFool> earl_: you should see at least one line, i think, reading     Driver "fglrx"   (this is a bit of a guess - i don't have an ati card)
[10:40] <Lars_G> webby`: If it's not in the path, go to where it's installed and run "./crossover"
[10:40] <webby`> ok
[10:40] <jorge_> The flash card of the cameras
[10:40] <Lars_G> linlin: So, let's say your System hard disk is hda1 for example...
[10:40] <leo1> thanks for advices bcos i am newbies in linux
[10:40] <earl_> yupp, that is what it says
[10:40] <Lars_G> linlin: You boot with the live cd...
[10:40] <linlin> it is
[10:40] <HappyFool> earl_: ok, sounds like everything is set to go
[10:40] <Lars_G> linlin: Mount the partition: "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" this mounts it on /mnt
[10:40] <linlin> well hang on i have a ubuntu live cd let me boot into it
[10:41] <sexcopter8000m> hi, in linux how can i find out what distro is running just from shell?
[10:41] <jacc||> how do i update ubuntu?
[10:41] <troy> does anyone know how to install hoary or breezy onto an mobo w/ the ATI IXP chipset and have it work with SATA?
[10:41] <earl_> ok, should i restart my computer again?
[10:41] <Lars_G> linlin: Then, you chroot into it, just for a short while: "chroot /mnt"
[10:41] <jorge_> tha toshiba satellite that i got has the SD Card slot, but I dont know how to make it work on ubuntu
[10:41] <Lars_G> linlin: And run passwd: "passwd <username>" and change it...
[10:41] <HappyFool> earl_: not really necessary, but it might be the easiest way
[10:41] <earl_> i see
[10:41] <Seveas> jacc||, with the package manager
[10:41] <linlin> i wont loose any data or have any adverse effects?
[10:41] <earl_> and what should i expect when i get back into ubuntu
[10:42] <HappyFool> earl_: well, you'll have faster 3D graphics, at least
[10:42] <earl_> like, will i be able to increase my desktop resolution to more than 2x2
[10:42] <jacc||> is it automatic  Seveas? even for kenrel update?
[10:42] <Lars_G> linlin: If you only do that, you shouldn't... passwd changes users passwords... what you're doing here is using chroot which changes your current root dir from / to /mnt, so the system thinks it's runnign off the mounted hda1
[10:42] <HappyFool> earl_: but before you reboot, do you have any other os (e.g., windows) installed on that machine?
[10:42] <earl_> yes, windows xp
[10:42] <bimberi> leo1: what does "ls -ld /var/www" show? (should be 1 line which you can paste here)
[10:42] <Seveas> jacc||, since hoary (ubuntu 5.04) security updates are done automatically if you enabled them
[10:42] <HappyFool> earl_: ok, just so you have some way of browsing the web/getting to irc in case things break
[10:43] <Lars_G> linlin: Then you run passwd, the passwd that is in /mnt/sbin since /mnt is now your root... and it will change the /mnt/etc/shadow file changing the password for your user.
[10:43] <earl_> yup
[10:43] <jacc||> thanks
[10:43] <Lars_G> linlin: Once it's changed, you can type "exit" to leave the chroot and return to / as root... and you can then reboot.
[10:43] <earl_> hm.
[10:43] <leo1> coming out
[10:43] <linlin> okie, booting livecd now
[10:43] <tchmnky> Anyone know a usable native Linux application to do multitrack waveform editing? I need something a bit like Audacity but which can reposition (drag) "blocks" of WAV files... Like a waveform sequencer...
[10:43] <leo1> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 2005-08-18 23:07 /var/www
[10:43] <HappyFool> earl_: if it does break, you can edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and replace  Driver "fglrx" with   Driver "ati"  using a text editor; something like 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:43] <Lars_G> linlin: If you ran all this without the chroot you'd be altering /etc/shadow which is useless since it's copied from the live CD and not stored into anything but temporal memory. :)
[10:44] <HappyFool> earl_: see the bottom bit of the wiki page for testing the drivers
[10:44] <pmjdebruijn> hi
[10:44] <earl_> well when i try to change my screen resolution it says "the x server does not support the XRandR extension, runtime screen resolution changes unavailable" or something
[10:44] <pmjdebruijn> does anybody here use a Pioneer DVR-109 in Ubuntu 5.04?
[10:44] <bimberi> leo1: eww, owned by the root user and group
[10:44] <earl_> will that change when i reboot?
[10:44] <Lars_G> linlin: In some more advanced recovery setups, you'd need to redirect your device dir /dev from the cd to the mounted hda1, but this is not necesary here since you're not working directly with any devices for this... sorry if I'm confusing you.
[10:44] <webby`> I got no luck running crossover from the folder Lars_G
[10:44] <mirak> hi
[10:44] <Lars_G> webby`: What does it say?
[10:44] <HappyFool> earl_: hmm, ok, not familiar with that; i'm not sure
[10:44] <mirak> what is the name of the framebuffer for gforce cards ?
[10:44] <Lars_G> webby`: what does "ls -l crossover" say?
[10:45] <HappyFool> earl_: there are other ways to tweak the resolution
[10:45] <earl_> oh?
[10:45] <pmjdebruijn> my Pioneer DVR-109 DVD Recorder doesn't work in Ubuntu 5.04
[10:45] <Lars_G> linlin: Did you understand what I told or was I too obfuscate? sorry I am bad giving explanations sometimes.
[10:45] <HappyFool> earl_: yet another wiki page:
[10:45] <HappyFool> !resolution
[10:45] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:45] <mirak> the boot frame buffer I mean
[10:45] <earl_> well i'm not lookin for somethin crazygonuts, i just want to be able to see more thna 65% of any given window
[10:45] <bimberi> leo1: have you created the directory you want?
[10:45] <webby`> No such file or directory Lars_G
[10:46] <Lars_G> jorge_: Are you still there?
[10:46] <earl_> should i run that whole 4-line command at once
[10:46] <earl_> or line by line
[10:46] <Lars_G> webby`: Then you're in the wrong directory, what version of crossover is this?
[10:46] <leo1> i use mkdir command with root account, it work.
[10:46] <webby`> It's version 4.2
[10:46] <HappyFool> earl_: first reboot to get your new drivers going
[10:46] <Srekel> my firefox is incredibly unstable!
[10:46] <leo1> is it right way?
[10:46] <earl_> k
[10:46] <earl_> i will be back in a secon then
[10:46] <Srekel> it crashes my session all too often
[10:47] <Lars_G> Srekel: Specially when using plugins?
[10:47] <Srekel> so I have to ssh and do kill -9 on the Xorg process
[10:47] <Srekel> Lars_G, I haven't added any that I know of
[10:47] <linlin> :( all my ubuntu cds that i ordered are failing the integrity checks
[10:47] <Lars_G> linlin: :/
[10:47] <Seveas> linlin, check your cd drive then...
[10:47] <Lars_G> Yes
[10:47] <pmjdebruijn> linlin, you sure your CD Drive will works properly?
[10:47] <linlin> acpi-modules-2.6................ is bad on all of them
[10:47] <linlin> i hope so
[10:47] <jacc||> can ubuntu see ntfs formatted drive?
[10:48] <natrin> need to make 'chown' permanent in ubuntu ?
[10:48] <Lars_G> or your IDE cables... I had a CD-ROM unit fail for it had a damaged IDE cable
[10:48] <linlin> i jsut got it, its a dvd burner and such
[10:48] <Seveas> jacc||: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[10:48] <funkyHat> jacc||, yes
[10:48] <bimberi> leo1: probably, however I am mindful of Lars_G's point earlier.  You will need to read up on unix/linux security/permissions so that you don't make your system insecure
[10:48] <leo1> thanks
[10:48] <leo1> i will learn
[10:49] <Lars_G> linlin: Have you tested it in other systems? my advice with CDs and DVD burners: a) Check cables, old IDE cables can cause trouble.. b) Place the DVD manually in Master or Slave as is required, some DVD units fail to work if they're in Cable Select mode. c) Some motherboards are "broken" and will not use the CD/DVD well if you set it as Slave and there is no Master on the same IDE port.
[10:49] <natrin> I need to chown a file permanently .. after reboot it keeps changing back Help?
[10:49] <jacc||> thanks
[10:49] <Seveas> natrin, which file?
[10:49] <Lars_G> bimberi: I wonder how long it'll take for ACLs to become widespreadly common among distros.
[10:49] <linlin> i used the same configuration to load ubuntu
[10:49] <linlin> i will try it in another machine right now
[10:50] <natrin> my modem file in /dev
[10:50] <Seveas> Lars_G, i hope not too long, i think very long :)
[10:50] <thenuke> natrin: :-) /dev files are created at boot
[10:50] <Seveas> natrin, put yoursel in the dip, dialout and related groups
[10:50] <jacc||> why is ubuntu no.1 in distrowatch?
[10:50] <thenuke> natrin: /dev  has your 'devices' in it
[10:50] <Seveas>  /dev is a vertual filesystem that only exists in memory
[10:50] <HappyFool> cos we bribed them! err, i mean, lots of people click on the ubuntu link
[10:50] <thenuke> natrin: like.. you cannot change your hardware permanently :)
[10:50] <Seveas> jacc||, because it's the most popular
[10:50] <natrin> ok thanks
[10:50] <Seveas> and the best :)
[10:51] <Lars_G> Seveas: Well, such is life.
[10:51] <zer0`> when i play freeciv 2 i get this message and i hear no sound:   open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory   . im on a fresh install of hoary and my sound card can play midi
[10:51] <Lars_G> Seveas: There is only so far you can spread dedicated groups...
[10:51] <thenuke> wellh, I bet there was another way round his problem
[10:51] <linlin> the drive is on secondary bus as master
[10:51] <jacc||> not that it's the best?
[10:51] <Lars_G> Seveas: At least debian/ubuntu makes the best use of dedicated groups i've seen so far...
[10:51] <Seveas> indeed
[10:51] <Seveas> i'd really love to see ACL's in ubuntu too
[10:52] <Lars_G> linlin: Hmm then it should read, and ubuntu shipped CDs are pressed, which should make them safer, last longer, and less propense to be missread
[10:52] <linlin> yes i agree
[10:52] <jacc||> Ubuntu: the best in support
[10:52] <jacc||> :)
[10:52] <Lars_G> Seveas: Well I had to recompile my kernel in the second day after install so I activated them away, but i'd like to see it integrated into gnome/kde toolsets.
[10:52] <linlin> maybe all the pressed cds are bad?
[10:52] <linlin> i have 3 of them
[10:52] <pmjdebruijn> linlin, mine are just fine
[10:52] <linlin> oh :(
[10:53] <viper> hi again
[10:53] <earl_> alright, my computer didn't detonate and the drivers seem like they are installed correctly.
[10:53] <linlin> damnit it must be this drive then
[10:53] <Seveas> Lars_G, that would rock :)
[10:53] <linlin> that makes me sad lol
[10:53] <ompaul> linlin, so why the laugh out loud at being sad?
[10:54] <viper> i gave up on xmms, and now im trying to install real player 10, it installs, when i run it nothing happens
[10:54] <linlin> cause of the irony i guess kinda
[10:54] <Lars_G> linlin: Do you have another Cd-rom you can try with temporarily?
[10:54] <Seveas> !realplayer
[10:54] <Fleischlego> Hi
[10:54] <ubotu> methinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:54] <Seveas> linlin: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[10:54] <HappyFool> amusing how many questions that one wiki page answers
[10:54] <linlin> new drive, reads everything, burns everything, except the one thing i really need
[10:54] <Lars_G> Seveas: Is eSound the default in ubuntu?
[10:55] <linlin> Lars_G yeah thats what im in the process of now
[10:55] <Seveas> for hoary yes
[10:55] <Seveas> for breezy it will be ditched again
[10:55] <Lars_G> Seveas: Hmm I don't know wether that's sad or happy...
[10:55] <Lars_G> Seveas: What will breezye go for? plain old alsa? or something newer a-la jack?
[10:55] <Seveas> alsa+dmix
[10:55] <Lars_G> Ah, nice solution. yes
[10:56] <ompaul> breezy colony three audio was nice, it just worked
[10:56] <Fleischlego> I got two X screens running on itself here - one LCD and a TV. They are not expanded and not cloned. But... The thing is, i dont know how to switch between the screens. Anyone knows how // got an idea?
[10:56] <NoHope> hello all
[10:56] <Lars_G> A well configured dmix too right? and not something hammered together and encommended to the dark gods.. right?
[10:56] <palmero> how do i remove a non-empty directory with all it?s contents?
[10:56] <Seveas> i hope so Lars_G :)
[10:56] <rc55> Hi - I've got 5.04 and I'm having trouble getting to web sites via addresses in firefox, i can wget it from command line by url, but firefox only seems to load sites by IP... any ideas?
[10:56] <Lars_G> How old is Hoary?? I.e., how far away is breezy from release?
[10:56] <str8edge> happyfool: i fixed my samba problem.
[10:56] <durt> Fleishlego: what kind of computer?
[10:56] <Seveas> rc55: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[10:57] <HappyFool> str8edge: did you figure out the cause?
[10:57] <kemik> i truly hope sound in breezy will be bettar
[10:57] <sniper_> hi all
[10:57] <HappyFool> palmero: try 'rm -rf directoryname'
[10:57] <sniper_> :)
[10:57] <Fleischlego> durt: 686, or ... what do you want to know? :)
[10:57] <palmero> HappyFool: Thanx ... i'm a bit rusty in Linux :)
[10:57] <durt> Fleishlego: laptop?
[10:57] <str8edge> happyfool: yeah. I had been playing with some rate limiting stuff in my router, and the only thing it affected was samba
[10:58] <str8edge> :)
[10:58] <Fleischlego> durt: na, desktop pc.
[10:58] <HappyFool> str8edge: bizarre
[10:58] <durt> ok
[10:58] <rc55> Seveas: That worked a treat! Thank you ;)
[10:58] <str8edge> happyfool: i'm glad i use script to log everything i do when i'm messing around.
[10:59] <viper> i dl the RealPlayer10GOLD.rpm file, went to Synaptic Package Manager and installed real player, when i go to run real player, nothing happens, what should i do?
[10:59] <str8edge> !restricted
[10:59] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:59] <str8edge> viper, read the restricted formats wiki page
[10:59] <str8edge> !restricted
[10:59] <viper> ive done that
[10:59] <zer0`> i dont have a /dev/sequencer, my game has no sound
[11:00] <BirdFish> okay, I found the printer setup and added a new one.
[11:00] <BirdFish> It says OfficeJet G85 Ready
[11:00] <BirdFish> But for some reason it's not sending to the printer
[11:00] <str8edge> viper: you need to add a non-ubuntu repository.. and then install the deb.
[11:00] <BirdFish> How would I set up the printer to send to IP_<IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:00] <viper> in english please, im new to linux
[11:01] <HappyFool> str8edge: hmm, interesting, never knew about script; i usually try to put /etc under version control when i'm feeling responsible
[11:01] <Fleischlego> durt: Got an idea? :)
[11:01] <deptrai> hi, anyone can tell me how to install mplayer ? I have uncommented #universe in /etc/apt/sources.lst and apt-get update, but apt-cache search mplayer show nothing related
[11:01] <d2dchat> im still having trouble upgrading ruby from 1.8.2 on day 23 to day 25's release on ubuntu
[11:02] <d2dchat> maybe im just not installing it correctly?
[11:02] <str8edge> happyfool: i have tried putt etc under cvs/svn version control, but it doesn't capture any other stupidity.
[11:02] <d2dchat> can anyone help me isntall ruby manually?
[11:02] <HappyFool> deptrai: mplayer is in 'multiverse'
[11:02] <deptrai> HappyFool, I have multiverse also ;-)
[11:02] <deptrai> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/multiverse Packages
[11:02] <str8edge> happyfool: i also always backup files before i modify them, and then generate diffs
[11:02] <HappyFool> deptrai: hmm, no, normal multiverse
[11:03] <durt> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php...t=Dual+MOnitors; http://docs.linux.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/05/025207&tid=
[11:03] <Lars_G> Seveas: Sorry to make you repeat, but what were the links to the explaining pages about packagewise differences between debian/ubuntu, and the one explaining the package universes?
[11:03] <deptrai> hmm. Hamlesh tell me how to have multiunvers
[11:03] <HappyFool> deptrai: should be an archive.ubuntu.com url
[11:03] <durt> try those fleicshlego
[11:03] <HappyFool> deptrai: read below
[11:03] <HappyFool> !repos
[11:03] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:03] <Fleischlego> durt: Thx much!
[11:03] <deptrai> HappyFool, ok, thanks
[11:03] <Lars_G> HappyFool: How did you set /etc under version control?
[11:03] <Seveas> www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[11:03] <Seveas> www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationsip
[11:03] <Seveas> www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[11:03] <palmero> Still having probs with shfs. I've installed it and it seems to work. When I try to access the mounted folder however, I get "permission denied". Anyone have a hint?
[11:03] <Lars_G> HappyFool: Manually created a cvs/svn repository for it? or is there a special methodology?
[11:03] <Lars_G> Seveas: Thanks a lot.
[11:03] <str8edge> viper: you need to follow the instruction on this page: and add the hoary extras repository
[11:04] <HappyFool> Lars_G: using svn; there's a trick on the svn FAQ for getting a 'live' system into svn
[11:04] <linlin> yeah this old cdrom drive works fine :(
[11:04] <puff> I guess I finally need to set up some sort of blog.
[11:04] <linlin> this is very bad
[11:04] <Lars_G> HappyFool: Ok, I'll check it (thankfully I use svn now and not cvs anymore)
[11:04] <viper> str8edge: i did :)
[11:04] <str8edge> viper: here's the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:04] <durt> jorge: any luck?
[11:04] <HappyFool> str8edge: hmm. i guess if i weren't a strictly amateur sysadmin i might do the same ;)
[11:04] <linlin> i need to return this drive but its like 3-4 months old and i dont have any of the packaging or anything
[11:04] <ompaul> HappyFool, pm?
[11:04] <jkindy> how do i connect to another computer once i have telnet open?
[11:04] <viper> str8edge: once again, i just did it
[11:04] <str8edge> Happyfool, no one said I was a pro either!
[11:04] <HappyFool> ompaul: sure
[11:05] <NoUse> jkindy don't use telnet
[11:05] <viper> str8edge: it still doesnt open tho
[11:05] <palmero> someone good with shfs?
[11:05] <jkindy> what should i use then
[11:05] <str8edge> viper: what doesn't open?
[11:05] <NoUse> jkindy ssh
[11:05] <str8edge> viper: open a root terminal
[11:05] <jkindy> were is ssh?
[11:05] <NoUse> jkindy ssh username@hostname
[11:06] <NoUse> !ssh
[11:06] <ubotu> I guess ssh is "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/"
[11:06] <viper> real player doesnt open
[11:06] <viper> terminal open
[11:06] <mikus> ssh package included with ubuntu distribution is broken
[11:06] <str8edge> viper: then type "cat deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted >> /etc/apt/sources.list" do not include the quotes
[11:06] <uthini> no sound in ubuntu, using the gigabyte am400 k7 motherboard, RZ series
[11:06] <mikus> we are working on an updated package at the current time please do not install it
[11:06] <NoUse> mikus I haven't had any problem with it
[11:06] <mikus> thanks
[11:07] <Kagebooshi> Ca parle de ssh ?
[11:07] <jorge_> durt: Hi
[11:07] <Fleischlego> durt: works, thanks. :)
[11:07] <durt> hi
[11:07] <NoUse> jkindy did you get that SSH Howto link?
[11:07] <mikus> NoUse: well there is a dependency problem
[11:07] <jorge_> I reboot but it says permision denied
[11:07] <linlin> ok now im finally in the livecd
[11:08] <linlin> what do i do now
[11:08] <mikus> that can cause system crashes on inproperly configured machines
[11:08] <viper> permision denied
[11:08] <linlin> how do i mount my hard drive
[11:08] <str8edge> viper: type in whoami
[11:08] <jorge_> jorge@GEA:~$ echo "crt_out:1" > /proc/acpi/toshiba/video
[11:08] <jorge_> bash: /proc/acpi/toshiba/video: Permission denied
[11:08] <bedi> sudo mount /dev/hda /mnt
[11:08] <viper> it says viper, my user name
[11:08] <jorge_> durt: jorge@GEA:~$ echo "crt_out:1" > /proc/acpi/toshiba/video
[11:08] <linlin> must specify filesystem type
[11:08] <jorge_> bash: /proc/acpi/toshiba/video: Permission denied
[11:09] <durt> jorge: so just your lcd works?
[11:09] <jorge_> yes
[11:09] <NoUse> mikus is there a bug for that?
[11:09] <str8edge> then you need to exit that terminal, and start a root terminal
[11:09] <str8edge> viper or type "sudo su -"
[11:09] <durt> jorge_:before i mess your computer up any more... check these out
[11:10] <str8edge> viper: whoami should return  root
[11:10] <viper> yea
[11:10] <durt> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[11:10] <durt> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php...t=Dual+MOnitors
[11:10] <durt> http://docs.linux.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/05/025207&tid=
[11:10] <jorge_> If I start the comp with the crt plug in, It starts but in 600X480 mode, and the lcd doent work
[11:10] <viper> now do cat deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted >> /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:10] <str8edge> viper: so now your logged in as root?
[11:10] <viper> yes
[11:10] <str8edge> viper: then do the cat....
[11:10] <viper> ok
[11:10] <linlin> mount /dev/hda /mnt: you must specify a filesystem type
[11:11] <durt> jorge_: so it does work sort of?
[11:11] <viper> cat: deb: No such file or directory
[11:11] <viper> cat: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/: No such file or directory
[11:11] <viper> cat: hoary-extras: No such file or directory
[11:11] <viper> cat: main: No such file or directory
[11:11] <viper> cat: universe: No such file or directory
[11:11] <viper> cat: multiverse: No such file or directory
[11:11] <viper> cat: restricted: No such file or directory
[11:11] <jorge_> but if one work the other doent
[11:11] <str8edge> viper: oops my bad, not cat, echo
[11:12] <viper> ok
[11:12] <str8edge> viper: echo deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted >> /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:12] <durt> jorge: install "toshset" from synaptics
[11:12] <str8edge> viper: apt-get update
[11:12] <viper> the '?', typo?
[11:12] <str8edge> don't include the ?
[11:12] <viper> ok
[11:13] <jorge_> yes
[11:13] <str8edge> yeah, i cut and paste from your line to avoid retyping.. i got a f**kered wrist.
[11:13] <viper> str8edge: what did we do to log in as root again?
[11:13] <jorge_> durt: wich toshiba model do you have?
[11:14] <str8edge> sudo su -
[11:14] <viper> ok
[11:14] <durt> 5105-S501
[11:14] <viper> str8edge: its done updating
[11:14] <BirdFish> Could someone please help me?
[11:14] <jorge_>     Problems with ACPI!
[11:14] <jorge_>
[11:14] <jorge_>     Your kernel has ACPI enabled.
[11:14] <jorge_>
[11:14] <jorge_>     Unfortunately toshset is not fully functional on ACPI-enabled kernels
[11:14] <jorge_>
[11:14] <jorge_>     Enable APM only instead to get toshset running properly.
[11:15] <phantom_> hi people, anyone that can please help me with setting up DMA on boot????
[11:15] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[11:15] <Seveas> !dma
[11:15] <Seveas> !tell phantom about 'dma
[11:15] <Seveas> !tell phantom about dma
[11:15] <phantom_> I can setup DMA with sudo hdparm -d11 /dev/hda
[11:15] <Ex-Cyber> ompaul: well, there's no Exchange Server or IIS for Linux, clearly an operating system without such vital applications is doomed to obscurity ;)
[11:16] <viper> str8edge: should it work now?
[11:16] <str8edge> viper: type apt-get -f install realplayer
[11:16] <phantom_> but it does not stay on ...
[11:16] <TomT64|afk> hi.  Does the ubuntu 5.04 live cd have physfs installed?
[11:16] <ompaul> Ex-Cyber, and virus free :)
[11:16] <viper> ok
[11:16] <viper> done
[11:16] <Lars_G> !dma
[11:17] <TomT64|afk> or, can I "install" it even though it's a live cd
[11:17] <Seveas> TomT64|afk, no
[11:17] <theeil> printing a test page causes a item to be added to the printing list for a split second, printing anything else does not show anything
[11:17] <str8edge> viper: look in your applications menu, under multimedia, you should see realplayer 10
[11:17] <TomT64|afk> Seveas: no physfs?  :p
[11:18] <viper> yea
[11:18] <str8edge> viper: try it out.
[11:18] <viper> i click on it, nothing happens
[11:18] <phantom_> How do I get DMA to be set on boot??????
[11:18] <viper> brb....
[11:18] <str8edge> viper: do you have any shockwave flash (swf) stuff installed?
[11:18] <Thorondor> how do i set locales correctlz? if often get error messages like this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1521
[11:19] <viper> str8edge: no :S do i need it?
[11:19] <Lars_G> phantom_: you where already told.
[11:19] <Lars_G> !tell phantom about dma
[11:19] <Sammi_> I'm running Xmms and there's no sound coming from it.
[11:19] <Seveas> Thorondor, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:19] <str8edge> viper: usually when realplayer 10 dies, its because of a bad swf plugin
[11:19] <phantom_> install realplayer????
[11:19] <str8edge> viper: i'll look it up for you.
[11:19] <viper> k, thx
[11:19] <Lars_G> phantom_: ????? eh????
[11:20] <durt> Sammi_: can you here other sounds?
[11:20] <Lars_G> phantom_: Both I and Seveas Have asked the bot, ubotu, to /msg you with the answer.
[11:20] <Lars_G> phantom_: Read the link ubotu gave you
[11:20] <Sammi_> I can hear the sounds from Gaim.
[11:20] <arcanistherogue> hey guys, i have a question about quake 1
[11:20] <simplex3> Anyone using Eclipse on Ubuntu?  More specifically, PHPeclipse?
[11:20] <Lars_G> I and Seveas?, Seveas and I? wathever.
[11:21] <Lars_G> simplex3: I am using it in Gentoo, but ask anyhow, see if I can help.
[11:21] <arcanistherogue> I bought the expansion, but i dont have quake 1 regular (i bought the scourge of armagon expansion) I thought the engine was on GPL, does this mean i can play it without the original quake?
[11:21] <ompaul> Lars_G, seve*s and I would be correct :)
[11:21] <phantom_> can't find it... sorry total noon here
[11:21] <Lars_G> arcanistherogue: Not necesarily, if it's an expansion only it would need data files that come with the original game. The engine is GPL but the data is not.
[11:21] <Thorondor> Seveas, this leads to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1522 - but apt-get install locales doens't work either
[11:22] <phantom_> noob
[11:22] <TomT64> is there a list of libraries which are available on the live cd?
[11:22] <Lars_G> phantom_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA
[11:22] <arcanistherogue> Lars_G: oh, ok.
[11:22] <ompaul> !tell phantom about dma
[11:22] <simplex3> Lars_G: I'm having issues getting autocomplete and debugging working.  The PHPeclipse plugin won't let me add an interpreter and everything I find on the web is centered around doing it with Windows
[11:22] <Lars_G> ompaul: Forget it, he's unable to read private messages
[11:22] <jkindy> i am trying to set up ssh and when i type in suno apt-get install openssh-server it askes me for a CD -ubuntu 5.4 , i put it in and hit enter and it just repeats the same thing
[11:22] <ompaul> Lars_G, ahh
[11:22] <mikus> listen everyone, Ubunut SSH is BROKEN
[11:22] <mikus> wait for the update/patch
[11:23] <mikus> Ubuntu*
[11:23] <Seveas> Thorondor, what's the error with apt-get install?
[11:23] <Seveas> mikus, bullshit
[11:23] <theblue> Hi all.
[11:23] <str8edge> viper: gotta go, my baby  just woke up, be back later.
[11:23] <phantom_> trying it now.. thanks
[11:23] <viper> ok
[11:23] <mikus> Seveas: i inspected the package myself
[11:23] <Lars_G> simplex3: Hmm, interpreters, that is explainable, but the autocomplete is really weird...
[11:23] <theblue> Once Breezy comes out, how would I go about updating Hoary to Breezy?
[11:23] <Seveas> mikus, then explain the error and file a bug instead of spreading fud
[11:23] <Sammi_> I can hear sounds from Ubuntu, too.
[11:23] <Thorondor> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1523
[11:23] <EasterSunshine> theblue: you can already upgrade to breezy
[11:23] <durt> Sammi_: ok
[11:24] <Sammi_> And CD Player.
[11:24] <iceman-AMD64> anyone running ubuntu 64 bit
[11:24] <mikus> Seveas: i'm a package maintainer, dummy
[11:24] <mikus> i'm the one who has to fix this stuff
[11:24] <theblue> eastersunshine: ok, how would I do that?
[11:24] <jkindy> wat program can i use to burn cd's in ubuntu
[11:24] <Seveas> mikus, go insult other people
[11:24] <durt> Sammi_: go to system>preferences>multimedia selector
[11:24] <ompaul> !war
[11:24] <ubotu> I don't know, ompaul
[11:24] <phantom_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA    trying it.. does not open it
[11:24] <EasterSunshine> theblue: in your /etc/apt/sources.list reaplce hoary with breezy and do an update or an upgrade, one of those
[11:24] <mikus> Seveas: please, i think i have considerably more leverage than you in these matters seeing as how I *am* an Ubuntu developer
[11:25] <NoUse> jkindy gnomebaker
[11:25] <theblue> Oh, and I can do the same with Warty?
[11:25] <mikus> Seveas: now go run along and let the big boys handle things
[11:25] <Seveas> Thorondor, that's what you get when mixing Ubuntu and debian repositories
[11:25] <theblue> To Hoary?
[11:25] <EasterSunshine> theblue: its unrecommened as it is unstable as of now
[11:25] <iceman-AMD64> got a question on 64 bit ubuntu ... whats minimum memory for a stable install ... will 512 work
[11:25] <Lars_G> Micksa: Leverage doesn't means you have free reign to insult people.
[11:25] <mjr> iceman-AMD64, certainly
[11:25] <theblue> eastersunshine: But if I have a bunch of Warty CDs, can I just install them, and then upgrade them to Hoary?
[11:25] <Lars_G> mikus: Sorry that was for you, nor Micksa
[11:26] <EasterSunshine> theblue: probably, but i'm not certain
[11:26] <theblue> eastersunshine: Or is everything too different?
[11:26] <Sammi_> durt: What do I set it to?
[11:26] <iceman-AMD64> reason i ask ... Winblows pro 64 bit wants a freaking gig of ram ..
[11:26] <LeoXV> beta tester needed :P http://www.kolumbus.fi/jukka.lehtomaki/ubuntu/g3torrent-v1.10d-ubuntu.tar.gz
[11:26] <LeoXV> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18369&page=5&pp=10
[11:26] <iceman-AMD64> next question ... how to mount my winblows xp partition ... from linux
[11:26] <Seveas> iceman-AMD64: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:26] <Lars_G> mikus: Btw, even if you're a package maintainer, you should fill a bug anyhow so users and other maintainers that might depend on your package know about the bug and can follow the process.
[11:26] <LeoXV> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=313526&postcount=5 rufus :p
[11:27] <Seveas> Lars_G, he's neither a maintainer nor an ubuntu developer
[11:27] <mattyJ> how can i mount a harddrive for storage and make it writable by my user account instead of having to use root
[11:27] <theblue> Ok, then.
[11:27] <DekaPink> Huh... Does anyone know if recompiling/reinstalling cvscedega after changing my video drivers will make any difference?
[11:27] <Lars_G> Seveas: Yes, I guessed so, the attitude says it all.
[11:27] <durt> Sammi_: test each of the systems and tell me what works
[11:27] <theblue> Does anyone know how to resize an NTFS partition to make room for Ubuntu?
[11:27] <EasterSunshine> theblue: i recommend downloading hoary once and installing it everywhere. it will save bandwidth for you and the repos servers, plus it will save you time
[11:27] <phantom_> !dma
[11:28] <EasterSunshine> theblue: warty packages are pretty old and most of them will have to be updated/upgraded, you will be downloading the same packages on multiple comps
[11:28] <Seveas> (insults in private chat)
[11:28] <jkindy> wat is the command to reset the menu's killall sumtin?
[11:28] <Lars_G> theblue: Yes, use partition magic, and pray that you do not loose data, I know of none other program that can resize a NTFS, and Patrition Tragic can kill your data on the process.
[11:28] <Sammi_> durt: How do I know if it worked?
[11:28] <mattyJ> how can i mount a harddrive for storage and make it writable by my user account instead of having to use root?
[11:28] <Lars_G> Seveas: Sorry
[11:28] <DarkDaan_com> !help
[11:28] <EasterSunshine> theblue: this is of course assuming you are installing ubuntu on like more than two machines
[11:28] <Seveas> jkindy, pkill -HUP gnome-panel
[11:29] <Seveas> Lars_G, for what?
[11:29] <Lars_G> Seveas: I tought that the insult in private was directed at me.
[11:29] <Seveas> no :)
[11:29] <theblue> eastersunshine: I'm only installing it on one box.
[11:29] <Seveas> that was just to mark the reason for banning that person
[11:29] <Lars_G> mattyJ: You need to either a) Make it user mountable, or b) make it mount under your userid/groupid.
[11:29] <phantom_> I tried everything ubotu says... but nothing...
[11:29] <Lars_G> Seveas: Is there any default fstab GUI editor mattyJ could use?
[11:29] <durt> Sammi_: test each of the output options (with the test button) and tell me which ones make noise
[11:29] <theblue> One final question:
[11:30] <Seveas> Lars_G, not in hoary
[11:30] <theblue> Does Ubuntu have to be installed on the primary hard drive?
[11:30] <phantom_> it sets it up, but it does not stay on after next boot
[11:30] <theblue> As in, physical hard drive?
[11:30] <EasterSunshine> theblue: oh i thought many. i dunno if updating from warty will do it in that case...anyone else know?
[11:30] <Lars_G> Seveas: Hmmm thanks, I won't send a new user to edit fstab by hand.
[11:30] <theblue> Nevermind about installing warty.
[11:30] <theblue> I found my Hoary CD.
[11:30] <bronson> I just went to breezy last night...  Mostly painless, but a Cairo library dependency problem rejects Evolution and Gaim.
[11:30] <uthini> !7VM400MRZ sound
[11:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, uthini
[11:31] <bronson> I've upgraded a ton of Warty installs to Hoary with nary a problem.
[11:31] <theblue> Does Hoary need to be installed on the first physical hard drive?
[11:31] <bronson> fwiw.
[11:31] <bronson> theblue: nope
[11:31] <Seveas> theblue, no
[11:31] <mattyJ> Lars_G: im using breezy right now, i dont see how to do it from the disks gui in administration
[11:31] <DarkDaan_com> anyone has tips for installing webserver on ubuntu?
[11:31] <mikkus> bronson: the cairo library dependency has been fixed in my latest patch
[11:31] <theblue> Ok.
[11:31] <EasterSunshine> uthini: you may have to be a little less specific...
[11:31] <Seveas> DarkDaan_com, sudo aptitude install apache2
[11:31] <uthini> :-/
[11:31] <Lars_G> Seveas: Is there a gui editor in breezy?
[11:31] <mattyJ> Lars_G: so if i edit the fstab, what would i put for user mount
[11:31] <theblue> So I can use FIPS20 to resize one of the FAT32 partitions on hdb, and throw Hoary there, right?
[11:31] <uthini> EasterSunshine, sound stopped working when i installed a new mobo
[11:31] <bronson> mikkus: sweet, I'll try again tomorrow.
[11:31] <mikkus> Lars_G: you can use XEdit in breezy
[11:31] <Seveas> Lars_G, there is a mounting tool
[11:31] <theblue> After a good defragment, of course?
[11:32] <mikkus> for my latest ubuntu faqs and patches, visit http://users.erols.com/alangrimes
[11:32] <EasterSunshine> uthini: well i'm no sound guru...
[11:32] <bronson> theblue: err...  Running Linux on FAT is a bad idea.
[11:32] <Sammi_> durt: Under Default Sink, only ESD makes noise and it makes a beep. Under Default Source, only ALSA makes noise and it makes static.
[11:32] <Lars_G> mattyJ: Be very carefull when editing fstab if you edit it the question is, do you want for you and any user to be able to mount/unmount the partition? or for only root to be able to mount/unmount and only you to be able to read/write to it?
[11:32] <bronson> Unix perms/ownerships are all fouled up on FAT volumes.
[11:32] <conrad_> hi, can someone help a noob out here?
[11:33] <Seveas> (ban evading)
[11:33] <natrin> what channel is for dial up help?
[11:33] <Lars_G> bronson: You can use umsdos if it still exists.
[11:33] <mattyJ> Lars_G: i have it in fstab right now to mount on startup, but only root can write to it, i want any user to be able to write to it, or just mine i dont really care
[11:33] <bronson> Lars_G: true, but last I heard it was stalled out.
[11:33] <theblue> bronson: No, I mean resizing the FAT32 partition out of the way, and putting Hoary in ext3 or Reiser.
[11:33] <EasterSunshine> seveas: why do you ban nicks? whenever i get banned, its my host
[11:34] <conrad_> i've been having  a long standing issue that the forums haven't been able to resolve so far
[11:34] <kevogod> Does Colony 3 use the same theme as Hoary?
[11:34] <RogerD> Hello everyone --> I got a problem:  When I boot up my laptop, I get an error that the system "Cound not look up the internet address for dhcppc2.  This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.  It may be possible to correct this problem by adding dhcppc2 to the file /etc/hosts.   I can either "Log in Anyway" or "Try Again".
[11:34] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, usually i silence nicks and ban ident@host
[11:34] <durt> Sammi_: in xmms, go to options>preferences and change the output plugin to "esound"
[11:34] <Seveas> but this one changed both nick and ident
[11:34] <RogerD> I can set my hostname and domain to whatever, but I can NOT become ROOT once I am logged in due to this error
[11:34] <Lars_G> mattyJ: Ok, to have root mount it, but have your user be able to write to it, add this to your options in the mountpoint: "uid=<your user id>,gid=<your group id>" without quotes. you can find your numerical UID and primary GID doing: "id <login>"
[11:35] <conrad_> no, can no one help out tonight?
[11:35] <RogerD> if I try to "sudo su -", I just get "unable to lookup dhcppc2 via gethostbyname()"
[11:35] <natrin> my modem driver keeps loading as root at boot where should I change this?
[11:35] <conrad_> i have sound issues with kde apps in Gnome
[11:35] <RogerD> any thoughts anyone?
[11:35] <Lars_G> conrad_: Sorry did you ask? I missed it.
[11:35] <ompaul> !tell conrad_ about ask
[11:36] <EasterSunshine> conrad_: you haven't asked a question here....not to mention its not night in new york city
[11:36] <conrad_> ah,.. thx lars: i have sound issues in Gnome
[11:36] <EasterSunshine> conrad_: nvm
[11:36] <apokryphos> ompaul, Lars_G: he mentioned.
[11:36] <ompaul> Lars_G, not specific
[11:36] <conrad_> evening then nyc
[11:36] <Lars_G> conrad_: If kde apps in gnome don't have sound you need to start your arts server, run "artsd"
[11:36] <mattyJ> Lars_G: ok, thanks -- my id was 1000, i had it set to 100 because the wiki had 100, did breezy change the default id from 100 to 1000?
[11:36] <Seveas> ROFLOL: look at this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i1524
[11:36] <whyameye> I want to sync my Palm with my ubuntu laptop. The palm is Serial and laptop is USB only. I want to use a USB --> serial converter. Is this going to work? What do I need to do for congiuration?  8)
[11:37] <conrad_>  artsd -a alsa
[11:37] <viper> brb...
[11:37] <conrad_> resolved nothing
[11:37] <ompaul> Seveas, ehh  persistant little b*****
[11:37] <mattyJ> Lars_G: i know, i was just wondering, someone should update the wiki for other people
[11:37] <Seveas> Lars_G, hehe, I'm used to it on other channels/nets, but this foolishness is new in here :)
[11:37] <Lars_G> conrad_: afaik Hoary uses eSound, not Alsa... try "artsd -a esd" or "artsd -a esound"
[11:37] <theblue> Does anyone know if you can resize FAT32 partitions from within the Hoary installer?
[11:38] <ompaul> Seveas, it must be getting popular this ubuntu thing :)
[11:38] <EasterSunshine> lol seveas, that guy is retarded...
[11:38] <conrad_> either? ok
[11:38] <rc55> I'm having trouble using Software Updates - every time I add a repository it stalls at downloading 5 out of 5 files and has a failed error getting Release.gpg from cdrom://... any ideas?
[11:38] <Lars_G> Seveas: I worked two years as a Help Desk for an ISP and still give them a hand with it, I am firmly convinced for life that 90% of humanity is stupid and in road for decadence
[11:38] <ompaul> RogerD, try sudo -i
[11:38] <Seveas> Lars_G, you optimist ;)
[11:38] <Lars_G> conrad_: Sorry I don't know what is the right one, that's why I suggested both.
[11:39] <RogerD> ompaul: same error --> "unable to lookup dhcppc2 via gethostbyname()"
[11:39] <theblue> I agere, Lars_G!
[11:39] <theblue> agree*
[11:39] <RogerD> I'd LOVE to fix this issue, but without ROOT, what can I do?
[11:39] <d2dchat> sounds like a php command
[11:39] <d2dchat> lol
[11:39] <d2dchat> gethostbyname()
[11:39] <nalioth> RogerD: sudo?
[11:40] <Seveas> nalioth, it's sudo that's failing ;)
[11:40] <Seveas> RogerD, login as root via the recovery mode
[11:40] <kevogod> Does Colony 3 use the same theme as Hoary? (repeat)
[11:40] <Seveas> and edit /etc/hosts
[11:40] <RogerD> I've never seen anything like this before.
[11:40] <Seveas> make sure the line with <IP_ADDRESS> has dhcppc2 in it
[11:40] <codecaine> kevor, i couldn't get x to run gnome
[11:40] <RogerD> nalioth: If I sudo su -, I jsut get the gethostbyname() error
[11:40] <codecaine> in col3
[11:40] <Seveas> RogerD, i've seen it quite often already
[11:40] <Lars_G> d2dchat: Nope, it's a common stdlib call
[11:40] <kevor> i'm innocent O_o
[11:41] <Seveas> kevogod, no
[11:41] <uthini> oms
[11:41] <RogerD> Seveas: hmmmm
[11:41] <uthini> my hw chipset isn't listed with via
[11:41] <conrad_> Lars: i tried artsd -a esd first and it said that there are already artsd objects registered,
[11:41] <d2dchat> Lars_G, well its also a php function:)
[11:41] <Seveas> what innocent?
[11:41] <Seveas> :)
[11:41] <kevor> NOOHO
[11:41] <kevor> don't hurt me :(
[11:41] <Lars_G> conrad_: damn, right it started with a "null" driver...
[11:41] <d2dchat> Lars_G, probably the php function came after:)
[11:42] <Lars_G> conrad_: you'd need to kill it (artsd) and restart it.
[11:42] <Seveas> s/probably/certainly/
[11:42] <whyameye> anybody know anything about usb--> serial dongles w/ ubuntu?
[11:42] <conrad_> and its looking to see if they are active
[11:42] <RogerD> I understand that my hostname (now dhcppc2) is not being associated with an IP.   But how can I associtate it if I can't edit my /etc/hosts file???????
[11:42] <Lars_G> d2dchat: Yep... I had some terrible troubles with that call in Solaris. it forced us to recompile our whole mail system once
[11:42] <jkindy> don vito rules
[11:42] <DarkDaan_com> how to install PHP and mySql on ubuntu ????
[11:42] <Seveas> RogerD, reboot into recoverymode
[11:42] <Lars_G> DarkDaan_com: Use synaptic
[11:42] <DarkDaan_com> k
[11:42] <Seveas> DarkDaan_com, sudo aptitude install php4-mysql mysql-server
[11:42] <DarkDaan_com> thnx
[11:42] <d2dchat> wow lol
[11:42] <conrad_> Lars: forgive me, how do you mean kill it? Get out of the shell?
[11:43] <DarkDaan_com> thnx
[11:43] <durt> Sammi_: try running "alsaconf" in the terminal
[11:43] <RogerD> be back Seveas
[11:43] <Lars_G> conrad_: "killall artsd"
[11:43] <Lars_G> DarkDaan_com: Seveas' answer is faster
[11:43] <RogerD> can I get to "recovery mode" from Grub?
[11:43] <Seveas> RogerD, yes
[11:43] <Lars_G> Seveas: Wouldn't he need apache and php_mod too? or are these std?
[11:43] <RogerD> k
[11:43] <durt> Sammi_: then change xmms back to using alsa
[11:43] <conrad_> i'm back at the prompt
[11:44] <conrad_> and restart? how artsd -a esound?
[11:44] <Lars_G> conrad_: try the "artsd -s <wathever>" again
[11:44] <Sammi_> durt: "bash: alsaconf: command not found"
[11:44] <Seveas> Lars_G, the dependencies drag them in :)
[11:44] <_Dom_> hey all, i carnt seem to install FF extensions
[11:45] <Lars_G> Seveas: Doh, right.
[11:45] <Seveas> cya all!
[11:45] <Lars_G> Seveas: Be well.
[11:45] <CookedGryphon> Where's the option to put num lock on by default?
[11:45] <_Dom_> ive reinstalled via synaptic
[11:45] <Lars_G> Seveas: Btw I saw the private chat, that was fun.
[11:45] <_Dom_> the extensions dialog is just greyed out
[11:45] <durt> Sammi_: you might be missing some alsa related packages
[11:45] <ompaul> Seveas, cheers
[11:45] <durt> anybody know how to get alsa working properly?
[11:46] <conrad_> sr, Lars: getting syntax error
[11:46] <apokryphos> !alsa
[11:46] <ubotu> [alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[11:46] <_Dom_> im on warhog atm is it possible to update to hedgehog via the internet
[11:46] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: that screenshot has convinced me to switch to xchat
[11:46] <Seveas> !upgrade
[11:46] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:46] <Seveas> ^-- _Dom_
[11:46] <Lars_G> conrad_: With both options?
[11:46] <Seveas> (ok, really gone now)
[11:46] <_Dom_> ok thanks :)
[11:47] <ompaul> Seveas, short night :)
[11:47] <conrad_> ?
[11:47] <_Dom_> any help with my FF question?
[11:47] <Lars_G> conrad_: I am sorry I don't know how to specify the right driver.
[11:47] <J5Alive> Hey guys, I really need some help my my Live CD bootup of Ubuntu...anyone up to trying to help me out?
[11:47] <conrad_> ah, wathever was for esd or esound? gotcha
[11:47] <ompaul> _Dom_, Seveas told you I will now ask ubotu the channel bot to tell you in a private message
[11:47] <Lars_G> conrad_: right.
[11:47] <ompaul> !tell _Dom_ about upgrade
[11:48] <EasterSunshine> j5alive: tell us what is wrong and we will try our best maybe someone will have a solution (probably not me :)
[11:48] <RogerD> Seveas: I vi'ed my /etc/hosts file.   rebooting now.     drumroll .........
[11:48] <_Dom_> i got the upgrade
[11:48] <Lars_G> RogerD: He's gone
[11:48] <_Dom_> i said anyone wanna help with my FF question that i asked first
[11:48] <_Dom_> but thank :)
[11:48] <apokryphos> _Dom_: what is it?
[11:48] <Lars_G> RogerD: Btw in theory changes in /etc/hosts do not need a reboot
[11:48] <conrad_> Lars: its busy
[11:48] <Lars_G> conrad_: Busy?
[11:48] <ompaul> _Dom_, all gone say it again  please
[11:48] <_Dom_> i carnt install extensions
[11:48] <Lars_G> conrad_: try any kde sound now.
[11:48] <_Dom_> the extensions dialog is just blank
[11:49] <conrad_> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[11:49] <Lars_G> conrad_: Ok?
[11:49] <ompaul> _Dom_, does FF = firefox?
[11:49] <_Dom_> yeah
[11:49] <J5Alive> Well, whenever I use the Live CD, it looks like it boots up all honkeydorey fine...however, right after it plays the login sound and shows the rectangular logo box, it freezes, as in it just stops and the mouse will not respond...anyone have a clue what's wrong? oh, and I tried turning of acpi..that didn't fix it either =S
[11:49] <RogerD> Seveas: YOU the man!!!
[11:49] <conrad_> lars it says default can't beopened
[11:49] <Lars_G> RogerD: He is gone.
[11:49] <durt> opera is the way to go
[11:49] <conrad_> ...can't be opened for playback because it is busy, which is the problem i been having
[11:49] <_Dom_> i need a firefox extension to install to test something on my site
[11:50] <Lars_G> conrad_: Weird. Really weird... sorry I haven't worked with artsd enough to help more. :(
[11:50] <Lars_G> durt: Not really.
[11:50] <ompaul> _Dom_, down the bottom of that box does it say Get more extentions?
[11:50] <_Dom_> yeah ive clicked it
[11:50] <Lars_G> conrad_: Ahhh you've been getting THAT error?
[11:50] <_Dom_> and tryed to install one
[11:50] <tha_gamemaster> ok i upgraded my nvidia vidcard and changed nothing else and now X is all wacked out, i even did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:50] <_Dom_> ive even copyed one into the directory
[11:50] <tha_gamemaster> any ideas ?
[11:50] <conrad_> yes
[11:50] <ompaul> _Dom_, and?
[11:50] <Lars_G> conrad_: Ok that means some program has locked out your sound card to itself and it's not sharing it.. do you use Hoary or Breezy?
[11:50] <_Dom_> the profile directoy
[11:50] <_Dom_> it just dosnt appear
[11:50] <conrad_> hoary
[11:50] <_Dom_> its still greyed out
[11:51] <Lars_G> conrad_: Weird, afaik hoary uses eSound which allows sharing of the sound card...
[11:51] <_Dom_> how do you do termianl as root? sudo -l root?
[11:51] <Lars_G> conrad_: Sorry without doing more tests, I can't help you right now.
[11:51] <tony_> sorry to interrupt, can someone point me in the right direction for playing mp3 files?
[11:51] <conrad_> hmmm...ok, thx for trying
[11:51] <tha_gamemaster> tony_: xmms
[11:51] <Lars_G> !restricted
[11:51] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:51] <Seveas> !mp3
[11:51] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[11:51] <J5Alive> ...Anyone? I've been struggling with this for the better part of the day..
[11:51] <Seveas> _Dom_, sudo -i
[11:52] <Lars_G> tony_: Follow these links
[11:52] <tony_> ty
[11:52] <conrad_> where can i go from here with this issue?
[11:53] <themot> I installed enlightenment, just as I have many other desktops, but it does not show up in the login screen as an available desktop... ideas?
[11:53] <vitriol> i forget how to decompress kernel patches :\ tar jxf doesn't work
[11:53] <_Dom_> okthanks
[11:53] <vitriol> can someone remind me?
[11:53] <vitriol> and gunzip didn't work either
[11:53] <conrad_> i did "gedit startartsd"
[11:53] <vitriol> file extension is .bz2
[11:53] <LinuxJones> J5Alive, what kind of machine do you have ?
[11:53] <Lars_G> conrad_: Hmmm well this is not a bad place, wait for someone to pop here, or ask in #kubuntu
[11:53] <Seveas> bzip2 -d
[11:53] <ompaul> I better go to work for the third last night - barring call outs until next Wednesday when I am free of the current setup :)
[11:53] <conrad_> but i use Gnome
[11:53] <Seveas> ^-- vitriol
[11:54] <conrad_> is this a kubuntu issue or Gnome?
[11:54] <vitriol> oohh!
[11:54] <vitriol> thanks Seveas
[11:54] <Lars_G> conrad_: It's a sound driver share issue, which stops the KDE sound system (arts) from starting
[11:54] <Lars_G> I need to concentrate on my code, see you latter all.
[11:55] <LinuxJones> J5Alive, so your system totally locks up and you need to do a hard power down ?
[11:56] <LinuxJones> J5Alive, your using the amd64 Live cd correct ?
[11:56] <Thorondor> somehow I mixed up my repositories... when trying to install locales via synaptic i get an error "unresolvable dependencies" - how can i fix that?
[11:56] <themot> And something else that is annoying, after I installed KDE I now have many more entries in my menu, all are k programs which run just fine in gnome, but the stupid icons are all the same instead of the pretty ones  :(   bummer huh?
[11:57] <phantom_> how do I pass the kernel the options ide0=dma or ide1=dma at boot time
[11:57] <themot> any ideas on this one?
[11:57] <Seveas> phantom_, these aren't kernel options
[11:57] <conrad_> lol, #kubuntu is totally empty
[11:57] <Seveas> you set them in /etc/hdparm.conf
[11:57] <Shufla> hello :)
[11:57] <LinuxJones> J5Alive, jsut make sure you have the amd 64 version of the livecd
[11:57] <phantom_> I did set it up... does not stay on when I reboot
[11:58] <_Dom_> hello again
[11:58] <_Dom_> !upgrade
[11:58] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:58] <kevogod> I better start ordering my Breezy CDs
[11:58] <durt> anybody here have a toshiba satellite?
[11:58] <Seveas> you set them in /etc/hdparm.conf <---- phantom_
[11:58] <phantom_> Seveas, I enter the code as mentione in ubuntu guides.. but does not work
[11:58] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is crap
[11:58] <tha_gamemaster> !nvidia
[11:58] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia
[11:59] <phantom_> Seveas, what code should I eneter exactly??? syntax?
[11:59] <_Dom_> the upgrade just leaves the prompt as > does that mean its working in the background?
[11:59] <kleggas> what package do I need to install to be able to run the TLS module in proftpd?
[11:59] <laserite> hi! I have a 2GB file which is constantly growing (fed by other program) and I want to start copying it to another computer, do u know how? thnx a lot!


[01:36] <happyfr0gg> I'm currently running on Lubuntu 16.04. Any reason(s) to upgrade to 18.04?
[01:36] <happyfr0gg> Just trying to get a conversation going. :-)
[12:24] <alkisg> Hi, any idea why lubuntu comes with two notification daemons, i.e. xfce-notifyd and notification-daemon?
[16:55] <czd> hi, why is "shut down" not transtated?
 @czd, Because you haven't translate it yet :P
[17:01] <czd> lubot oh shit yes!
[17:01] <czd> :-D
 Hehe
[17:29] <czd> lubot since i can english, a hammer is no longer required for shutdown.
 Hehe
[18:01] <LucidEagle> Hello everyone
[18:01] <LucidEagle> I lost my desktop wallpaper and I don't know how to get it back. When I right click it shows the openbox window manager now. Does anyone know how to revert the settings back to normal?
[18:10] <Jonta> LucidEagle: Did you lose the file, or did it just stop being the wallpaper?
[18:16] <LucidEagle> It just stopped having the wallpaper upon reboot
[18:17] <LucidEagle> Not sure what happened, or what I did.