[03:41] <joeblog_> xfce panels missing under xubuntu. how to fix?
[03:41] <floating> How can Iundo this: sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 6881:6999 -j ACCEPT ?
[03:41] <LjL> !firewall | washbear
[03:41] <ubotu> washbear: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:41] <pinchartl> openldap2.3 is the source package, and is split in libldap, slapd and ldap-util after compilation
[03:41] <crimsun> bah, it sure would be nice if we could use madison.
[03:42] <defrysk> pinchartl, apt-cache search openldap
[03:42] <crimsun> pinchartl: (yes, I know)
[03:42] <LjL> floating: sudo iptables -D INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 6881:6999 -j ACCEPT <-- i think
[03:42] <crimsun> pinchartl: please follow the backport request protocol, and we'll consider it if it's valid
[03:42] <cz_cniry> can somebody help me with apache mysql?
[03:42] <LjL> floating: note it will be "undone" at next reboot anyway, unless you put it into some startup file
[03:43] <washbear> !vista
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 Foo is Foo
[03:43] <LjL> !msg the bot
[03:43] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[03:43] <michaelpo> !flv
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <michaelpo> !flash
[03:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:44] <floating> uh ? What does that mean anyway LjL ? ubuntuguide suggested that command for bittorrent files, but my torrents are not running that smoothly. What is restricted to 6881-6999 now ?
[03:44] <danny500> !ban
[03:44] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:44] <jrib> michaelpo: mplayer can play them, I'm pretty sure vlc can too
[03:44] <danny500> you can try xine to
[03:44] <cz_cniry> I need start mysql in ubuntu 6.10
[03:44] <danny500> then start it lol
[03:45] <jrib> ubotu: tell cz_cniry about mysql
[03:45] <LjL> floating: that command line is telling your system to accept connections to ports from 6881 up to 6999. it should be completely useless, though, since Ubuntu comes with no restrictive firewalling rules by default, so those ports should already be open
[03:45] <crimsun> jrib: no, vlc can't handle some proprietary formats, because I didn't enable its w32loader.
[03:45] <LjL> floating: if you have a router, or similar, you may want to open those ports *on the router*
[03:45] <rrittenhouse> If i were to install a base install of edgy and only want to install X (for a kiosk environment).. what package(s) would I choose?
[03:46] <LjL> rrittenhouse: i'd say ubuntu-minimal and xorg
[03:46] <danny500> rrittenhouse> most likely the x-window app
[03:46] <danny500> and the 6.10 environment
[03:46] <rrittenhouse> well i was thinking xserver-xorg would be the package but I wanted a verification
[03:46] <rrittenhouse> well yeah i can do the base install part it was just the X portion
[03:47] <danny500> you could do that to
[03:47] <LjL> rrittenhouse: no, xserver-xorg alone doesn't do the trick. you need xorg
[03:47] <LjL> rrittenhouse: (which used to be x-window-system)
[03:47] <danny500> yep
[03:47] <twosouls82> cz_cniry: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Database_Server
[03:47] <jrib> crimsun: it seems to play an flv file I have here
[03:47] <rrittenhouse> k thx
[03:47] <crimsun> jrib: I'm not referring to flvs
[03:47] <danny500> np
[03:47] <floating> LjL: What is the actual effect of that command, if they were already open do you know ?
[03:48] <jrib> crimsun: oh ok
[03:48] <danny500> Hey, some times my ubuntu kicks programs off once and a while. Whats going on?
[03:48] <Pitchdown> hello
[03:48] <danny500> hello
[03:48] <Pitchdown> i have a starters question
[03:48] <LjL> floating: if they were already open, it does nothing, AFAIK. well, the rule gets added, but it has no practical effect.
[03:48] <Pitchdown> who can help me?
[03:48] <LjL> !helpme
[03:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:48] <danny500> anybody can help lol
[03:48] <Pitchdown> i have just installed jubuntu 6.1.0
[03:48] <cz_cniry> twosouls82: thx
[03:48] <Pitchdown> latest
[03:48] <floating> ah ok
[03:48] <danny500> yeah
[03:49] <Pitchdown> in the install i have made a password
[03:49] <danny500> you mean 6.10 lol
[03:49] <Pitchdown> but what is the user
[03:49] <Pitchdown> not root...
[03:49] <MeisterZopf> its the user you specified
[03:49] <LjL> Pitchdown: it should have been asked during the install as well
[03:49] <cyberjunkie> been 5ysr since i used/installed linux.. now someone make sure im saying  the right things.. :P
[03:49] <danny500> isn't it your first name?
[03:49] <Pitchdown> there was no option
[03:49] <michaelpo> i feel... ubuntu is a little bit unresponsive.... after i click something.. it is not immediately actioned.... windows is quite responsive.... is there a setting somewhere?
[03:49] <cyberjunkie> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso <-- is a livecd with a option to install on ur local hdd?
[03:49] <jhaig> jubuntu?  Is that a java based version?  :-)
[03:49] <Pitchdown> local hdd
[03:49] <danny500> wait what did you name the system?
[03:49] <LjL> Pitchdown: yes there was. try your first name
[03:49] <twosouls82> cz_cniry: that is a good place to start, and offcourse the ubbie wiki
[03:50] <LjL> Pitchdown: all lowercase
[03:50] <danny500> Pitchdown> what did you name the system?
[03:50] <danny500> use that to
[03:50] <Pitchdown> yes, the name of the computer
[03:50] <danny500> yeah
[03:50] <danny500> try that as a user name to
[03:50] <danny500> !user name
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about user name - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <danny500> !login
[03:51] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[03:51] <LjL> !fishing
[03:51] <Pitchdown> nope
[03:51] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[03:51] <Pitchdown> still not working
[03:51] <danny500> !user
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about user - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <jrib> Pitchdown: is this a regular install?
[03:51] <Vixus> This is just great
[03:51] <Pitchdown> in the installation there was not option to make a user account
[03:51] <Pitchdown> only password
[03:51] <Vixus> I can't access text mode
[03:51] <Pitchdown> regulat install ye
[03:51] <cyberjunkie> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso <-- its a livecd with a option to install on ur local hdd? 64bit desktop wont run _any_32bit apps?
[03:51] <Vixus> I can't use recovery mode.
[03:52] <Pitchdown> ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386
[03:52] <Vixus> I can't do anything.
[03:52] <jrib> Pitchdown: you are on a different computer now and can enter commands into ubuntu or do you need to reboot to do so?
[03:52] <LjL> Pitchdown: well boot from recovery mode, and do a "grep 1000 /etc/passwd" to find out what the user name is
[03:52] <Pitchdown> 2 computers here
[03:52] <LjL> jrib: ... enter commands without knowing the username? :P
[03:53] <jrib> yeah, I was just going to suggest what ljl said
[03:53] <Vixus> joelol75: No idea what to do.
[03:53] <c_> hi.
[03:53] <c_> ;]
[03:53] <LjL> Pitchdown: that's not a regular install... that's an Alternate CD install. which is not the regular install.
[03:53] <joelol75> vixus: sounds alot deeper than an Nvidia driver problem, as this would only affect X, and crash out to a terminal session
[03:53] <LjL> !alternate | Pitchdown
[03:53] <ubotu> Pitchdown: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:53] <danny500> sorry LjL
[03:53] <cyberjunkie> !desktop
[03:53] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[03:53] <Pitchdown> oh ok uboto
[03:53] <twosouls82> cyberjunkie: using 32 bit emulation libs a 64 bit sys can run 32 bit apps, not that nice, so I run a 32bit one on my 64bit one.. 'till there's proper support
[03:53] <cyberjunkie> ah :P ok
[03:53] <joelol75> vixus: sounds like a grub/bootloader misconfig
[03:53] <Pitchdown> so the live-cd is the same as the install cd ?
[03:54] <cyberjunkie> desktop is the livecd + option to install on hdd
[03:54] <cyberjunkie> ?
[03:54] <Pitchdown> ok thx
[03:54] <Pitchdown> i download it now
[03:54] <cyberjunkie> nono ist a question!
[03:54] <Pitchdown> but what do i have now?
[03:54] <cyberjunkie> its a question! D:
[03:54] <Pitchdown> the machine was installing
[03:54] <cyberjunkie> haha
[03:54] <LjL> danny500: use #ubuntu-bots, or just type /query ubotu, for experiments (or to find factoids if you don't know they exist). doing it in here spams the channel... and i've given three warnings already ;)
[03:54] <twosouls82> Pitchdown: the alternate installer is much nicer, has a textmode, much more options
[03:54] <jrib> Pitchdown: you already installed, just try what LjL said
[03:54] <Vixus> joelol75: No, when I press F2... there's a bright flash and then it fades pixelly into grey... what??
[03:55] <danny500> ok no more
[03:55] <twosouls82> and yes, the desktop cd is a livecd that installs too
[03:55] <bmgz> I have a new digital camera (canon powershot a640). It doesn't show up on the gnome desktop when I switch it on, I made an entry in the /etc/udev/45-libgphoto2... file and I can now access it from gthumb. My problem is that it still doesn't automatically show up on my desktop like my other camera. I have tried to write a device information file for HAL but it doesn't seem to work? any pointers?
[03:55] <x-r00t-x> sup guys
[03:55] <deep`> cyberjunkie, haha, you'r right anyway ;)
[03:55] <cyberjunkie> 64bit doesnt seem to be happening anwhere twosouls82 :P
[03:55] <cyberjunkie> ooh goodie~
[03:55] <cyberjunkie> why doesnt the ubuntu community use the term LiveCD ! D:
[03:55] <jrib> cyberjunkie: because the desktop cd is a live cd and the installer
[03:56] <kjaer> Hey guys. Any pointers to how to install sun jdk 6 (1.6) ?
[03:56] <twosouls82> because this one can install and has a fully functional dekstop on it cyberjunkie
[03:56] <cyberjunkie> ah ok
[03:56] <twosouls82> kjaer: you beat  me
[03:56] <cyberjunkie> been 5yrs. no linux ;P just giving it a try :>
[03:56] <LjL> cyberjunkie: because it makes no sense :P the CD isn't alive. other operating systems always had "live" CDs or diskettes, but they never were called such - they did give you a desktop and an "Install on HD" icon, just like what the Ubuntu Desktop CD does
[03:56] <kjaer> twosouls82, Beat you ?
[03:56] <kjaer> Well, make-jpkg can't do it. I know there's only a release candidate.
[03:57] <cyberjunkie> so the livecd desktop has any option of.. say.. creating a temp folder on fat32 partitions and storing settings etc?
[03:57] <twosouls82> you gave the same answer, much quicker, much shorter, chappeaux
[03:57] <x-r00t-x> :) hi everyone
[03:57] <\pub\bash0r> since I switched to Edgy, "dpkg-reconfigure locales" does no longer show a menu to select charsets ... how can I achieve this now?
[03:58] <Gun_Smoke> I seem to be stuck in man  ... How do I get out?
[03:58] <Vixus> how do i edit the grub commandline to boot straight into a text environment??
[03:58] <kjaer> Gun_Smoke, q
[03:58] <jfrench> ctrl+z
[03:58] <Gun_Smoke> Thanks
[03:59] <kjaer> Vixus, You always want text-only at boot ?
[03:59] <jfrench> no problems
[03:59] <Adam_G> Hi people. How can I disable user accounts? judging by my auth.log someone's trying to brute-force me...
[03:59] <Vixus> *sigh*
[03:59] <Vixus> I need text only right now
[03:59] <x-r00t-x> Vixus, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:59] <Vixus> please
[03:59] <Vixus> no
[03:59] <Vixus> wrong
[03:59] <Vixus> from the grub menu
[03:59] <x-r00t-x> Vixus, what you want to do ?
[04:00] <Vixus> from the grub menu
[04:00] <Vixus> sorry
[04:00] <Vixus> Ubuntu has died and I have no way of gaining access to it.
[04:00] <Vixus> I need to try and edit my xorg.conf
[04:01] <HuibertGill> Vixus: it is init=1 afaik
[04:01] <Vixus> I would like to boot straight into a text environment
[04:01] <Vixus> ok
[04:01] <Vixus> thanks
[04:01] <jrib> !enter | Vixus
[04:01] <ubotu> Vixus: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:01] <frogzoo> Vixus: choose'recovery' from grub prompt
[04:01] <Vixus> Sorry.
[04:01] <kjaer> Adam_G, man usermod look at the -l switch.
[04:01] <leDemente> Hi everyone!
[04:01] <leDemente> I'm coming back!
[04:01] <Vixus> Recovery mode doesn't work. Do I just append init=1 to the end?
[04:02] <Vixus> brb
[04:02] <Molly_156> Hi guys - I have somehow locked myself out of access to some of my directories by trying to change permissions.
[04:02] <Molly_156> I do not have a root account enabled, but was using MC, which acts as root.
[04:03] <jrib> Molly_156: what directories?
[04:03] <Smotang> ouch
[04:03] <Molly_156> I can't get into /var/www, which is what I was trying to set.
[04:03] <twosouls82> Molly_156: mc setuid?
[04:03] <Molly_156> I can FTP, but can't upload. That's why I was trying to change them.
[04:03] <Adam_G> kjaer, thank you
[04:03] <LjL> Molly_156: mc acts as root? wow
[04:03] <LjL> Molly_156: what about just using sudo like you're supposed to? ;)
[04:03] <Molly_156> Well, if you start it using sudo.
[04:03] <twosouls82> how develish
[04:03] <LjL> Molly_156: err... yeah. what did you change permissions to?
[04:03] <Molly_156> I realize I should do that now. :)
[04:03] <twosouls82> s/devel/devil/g
[04:03] <kjaer> Molly_156, chown www-dev:www-dev /var/www ; Then add your user to the www-dev group.
[04:04] <LjL> kjaer: isn't that www-data by default?
[04:04] <jrib> no it's root by default
[04:04] <Molly_156> I'm really not very knowledgeable about the permissions. Is that the exact command I put in?
[04:04] <Molly_156> I changed permissions to 750.
[04:04] <twosouls82> LjL: indeed www-data here, initially ;)
[04:04] <kjaer> LjL, Sorry no idea.
[04:04] <jrib> LjL: I found out recently that you shouldn't give ownership to www-data, that's what apache runs as
[04:05] <LjL> jrib: it is? bah, then i need to subscribe to the elite club of mess-with-chown-and-don't-remember-you-did
[04:05] <twosouls82> jrib: that where the default settings here, I needed to change that manualli
[04:05] <HuibertGill> jrib: isn't that why you give it www-data _because_ apache runs as it?
[04:05] <Molly_156> That command gives me an invalid user kjaer
[04:05] <twosouls82> -i +y
[04:05] <LjL> HuibertGill: well, apache just needs to be able to *read* the stuff
[04:05] <kjaer> Molly_156, Then add the user
[04:05] <Gumby> does anyone here know where the gnome-session manager stores its per user settings?
[04:05] <Rprp> Well, i just updated my Server Kernel, but its not starting now, how can i fix it? :E
[04:05] <Molly_156> I dont' know how.
[04:06] <HuibertGill> LjL: yes. correct
[04:06] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Molly_156 about adduser | Molly_156, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:06] <twosouls82> LjL: it was the same here, I didn't set it to www-data myself
[04:06] <jhaig> Gumby: $HOME/.gnome ?
[04:06] <kjaer> Molly_156, system -> administration -> users and groups
[04:06] <LjL> HuibertGill: so maybe, owner=root, group=www-data, and no write permissions to the group. or something.
[04:06] <Molly_156> It says "user already exists.
[04:07] <LjL> twosouls82: it's weird though, i'm quite sure jrib isn't the first one telling me they're root:root by default
[04:07] <Molly_156> I'm in console only, I'm lost.
[04:07] <Molly_156> I'm trying really hard, but I'm lost.
[04:07] <LjL> Molly_156: you're trying to add yourself to the www-something group, is that it?
[04:07] <Gumby> jhaig: one might think that but it isnt
[04:07] <twosouls82> LjL: I have root:www-data, set it myself, I thought that was an 'unsafe feature'
[04:07] <jrib> LjL, HuibertGill: you could set the group and have read only group permssions.  But the owner that has write access should not be www-data
[04:07] <Molly_156> I honestly don't know. I'm just trying to get my one account to have write permission for FTP.
[04:07] <kjaer> Molly_156, Okay. useradd or adduser is the commands.
[04:08] <twosouls82> LjL: odd that we are the only one's
[04:08] <LjL> jrib: ok, i understand your reasoning, but i still don't remember changing the owner manually... nor does HuibertGill apparently
[04:08] <jhaig> Gumby: or $HOME/.gnome2 or $HOME/.gnome2_private
[04:08] <LjL> jrib: so either we're both forgetful, or Ubuntu does something weird when you install apache
[04:09] <Molly_156> So, what would have happened that would have blocked me from my /var/www dir even in SSH?
[04:09] <patrick_> is webmin accessabke from outside of the network
[04:09] <patrick_> ?
[04:09] <Pooper> does anyone have time for a n00b? :P
[04:09] <jrib> LjL: yeah, I'm not 100% sure.  I seem to remember mine being root:root at one point though :/  We need a fresh user
[04:09] <LjL> Molly_156: ah, for FTP... uhm, not too familiar with that. i thought you were talking local user
[04:09] <Molly_156> I am, now.
[04:09] <LjL> !webmin | patrick_
[04:09] <ubotu> patrick_: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[04:09] <Molly_156> Now I'm hosed as a local user as well.
[04:09] <rbonnin> Do you know any OSS SMTP gateway?
[04:09] <kjaer> Molly_156, Give me a sec.
[04:10] <patrick_> is there something like webmin
[04:10] <Gumby> jhaig: negative and negative.  already looked there.
[04:10] <LjL> patrick_: maybe, but i don't know about it
[04:10] <jorgp> anyone know of a repos for gnome 2.16 for dapper?
[04:10] <jhaig> Gumby: Well, what exactly are you looking for?
[04:10] <Helpmeee> Hello, im having some trouble installing ubuntu. Everything goes black after the loading screen
[04:10] <Molly_156> FTP will work the same way, whatever I'm set as for local, will be that for FTP.
[04:10] <Helpmeee> it says "video mode not supported"
[04:10] <patrick_> ljl:why is not supported anymore
[04:10] <Gumby> jhaig: I am looking to see where it reads its startup items from
[04:11] <LjL> patrick_: call me "messenger", and don't kill me :P
[04:11] <jrib> Gumby: ~/.config/autostart/
[04:11] <jhaig> patrick_: Probably because it is horribly insecure.
[04:11] <Gumby> jrib: thank you
[04:11] <patrick_> arh ok, i was only wondering, i havent used for about 5 years when i had red hat
[04:12] <kjaer> useradd www-dev --home /var/www -p password --shell /bin/bash; chown www-dev:www-dev /var/www; chmod 755 /var/www
[04:12] <kjaer> Molly_156, Should fix it
[04:12] <kjaer> Then log in with the www-dev user
[04:12] <Gumby> jrib: and what about the gnome specific entries, such as update-notifier
[04:12] <HuibertGill> patrick_: webmin was created wenn it was hard to admin a box properly.
[04:12] <HuibertGill> patrick_: in ubuntu the the gnome amdin tool offer al lyou need (tm)
[04:12] <jhaig> patrick_: Actually, I think it is because it was only being supported in Debian by one person, and that one person decided to stop doing it.
[04:12] <Molly_156> So I understand, am I creating a group called www-dev?
[04:13] <kjaer> Molly_156, It should be auto created to be the default group for the www-dev user
[04:13] <MrQuincle> not so newby...: when I edit xorg.conf and add 1280x1024 (supported by Dell E197FP) the screen goes blinking
[04:13] <Molly_156> This may be a stupid statement -- but I dont' want a www-dev user.
[04:13] <jrib> Gumby: checked ~/.gnome2/session ?
[04:13] <Molly_156> Can I not get permissions back for my own account?
[04:13] <kjaer> You want your normal user ?
[04:14] <Gumby> jrib: yep
[04:14] <Molly_156> Yes.
[04:14] <Gumby> jrib: actually, I dont even have that file
[04:14] <kjaer> Molly_156, Do what I said, and add your user to the www-dev group.
[04:14] <vlraptor> ?
[04:14] <Molly_156> By chmoding to 755, I got my access back via SSH
[04:14] <FYI> hello everyone, I'm having trouble with gsynaptics, I need to set SHMConfig to 'true' in xorg.conf, but I don't know where to do it exactly
[04:16] <Gumby> FYI... Section "InputDevice"
[04:16] <Gumby>         Identifier      "Synaptics Touchpad"
[04:16] <Gumby> first hit on google
[04:16] <Gumby> "SHMConfig"
[04:16] <LjL> jrib: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/7856
[04:16] <FYI> lol, thanks Gumby :-[
[04:16] <Gumby> or whatever your default mouse is
[04:17] <LjL> jrib: (and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/62068 , but that's undecided unconfirmed and uncommented)
[04:17] <zerod`> not sure
[04:17] <Gumby> may not be "Synaptics Touchpad"
[04:17] <Coban> #connect
[04:18] <Vixus> init=1 does nothing. How do I alter my grub commandline to enter into Ubuntu text-mode?
[04:18] <salambander> Absolute newb here. I'm using the GUI and having trouble installing newly downloaded software. At the moment I'm trying to install Ktorrent. Can anyone give me a walk through, f it's not too much trouble?
[04:18] <heikki> what if you start your ubuntu in the standard way and then when X has failed to start you push ctrl+alt+f2?
[04:19] <Adam_G> How would I go about blocking an IP address from connecting to me?
[04:19] <kjaer> salambander, go to system - administration - synaptics
[04:19] <kjaer> search for ktorrent, select it and press the install button
[04:20] <salambander> Thanks
[04:21] <leDemente> I have 2 harddrives, 40GB, 120GB. Which would be best to make / ?
[04:21] <apz> how can i unpack .rpm files ?
[04:21] <Adam_G> leDemente, I personally would use the smaller one as /, then use the larger one as the mountpoint for /home
[04:22] <kjaer> :-)
[04:22] <leDemente> Hmm.
[04:22] <kjaer> apz, Install the program called alien
[04:22] <jrib> apz: what is it an rpm for?
[04:22] <twosouls82> leDemente: I would do the same as Adam_G except for the addition of a /mnt/shared if you have more users who will be using the same files
[04:23] <twosouls82> on the biggest that is
[04:23] <leDemente> No, I doubt that I will.
[04:23] <apz> can you give me the syntax ?
[04:23] <jrib> !rpm | apz
[04:23] <ubotu> apz: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:23] <salambander> What if I wanted to download some sort of freeware that isn't on the package list? Eg Laxius power (if there's a Linux version). Would I do the same thing - download it, then go to Synaptics?
[04:24] <Helpmeee> Hello, im having some trouble installing ubuntu. Everything goes black after the loading screen
[04:24] <Helpmeee> it says "video mode not supported"
[04:24] <jrib> salambander: no, it would depend on how the software is provided
[04:24] <kjaer> salambander, You would search for it in synaptics first.
[04:24] <kjaer> Then you would ask google for a deb package.
[04:24] <kjaer> Then you would search their website.
[04:24] <kjaer> Then you would compile the source.
[04:24] <salambander> Uhuh... How doI compile the source?
[04:25] <nuked_omen> will microsoft port their office to linux?
[04:25] <kjaer> nuked_omen, no.
[04:25] <salambander> Sacriledge!
[04:25] <kjaer> salambander, Pray you don't have to go that far.
[04:25] <nuked_omen> why not? i think it's a good idea cuz more people will use it
[04:25] <Adam_G> More people using office is a good thing?
[04:26] <kjaer> nuked_omen, It is not free software or anything. So you shouldn't use it.
[04:26] <krang> Anyone know why this command isn't creating files filled full o' random bytes for me? dd if=/dev/random of=reallylargefile count=2097152
[04:26] <RyanTMulligan> What's it called when you type ctrl-alt-f1 and it brings you to a terminal screen?
[04:26] <krang> It just sits there doing nothing
[04:26] <kjaer> RyanTMulligan, Going to tty1 ?
[04:26] <salambander> Also, it's full of bugs. Yes, it would be slightly easier to get used to, but it defeats the whole purpose of using opensource OS in the first place.
[04:26] <nuked_omen> Adam_G, for ms, yea
[04:26] <Adam_G> are we ms?
[04:26] <RyanTMulligan> kjaer: thanks!
[04:27] <nuked_omen> sometimes
[04:27] <kjaer> Besides OO.o is good enough.
[04:27] <salambander> Hail kjaer! Mighty aider of all! *kowtows*
[04:28] <Adam_G> honestly, OO.o sucks. (but abiword is better than either MSO or OOo)
[04:28] <nuked_omen> OO.o might be even better, but i have to use ms office at work
[04:28] <pty> kjaer: OO.o is good enough if your company doesn't use any fancy MS Office features (collaberation, vba etc)
[04:28] <nuked_omen> so i ain't got the choice
[04:28] <tarzan_> hi... i installed new nvidia drivers from nvidia.com. it works, but now everytime i restart the system gdm won't start saying the versions of glx and the nvidia-module mismatch... the glx module is 9631, whereas the kernel module is older... any ideas?
[04:28] <nuked_omen> abiword sucks.. LyX rules
[04:28] <kjaer> nuked_omen, Do you use macros or anything ?
[04:28] <kjaer> nuked_omen, texmacs > lyx.
[04:28] <nuked_omen> kjaer, don't know what those are, so no
[04:29] <salambander> Even if you use the Linux/Ubuntu software, you can save it as .doc and then open it with ms word. Theoretically. I haven't tried it yet
[04:29] <kjaer> Besides everyone should just use vim..
[04:29] <nuked_omen> salambander, i have, and it doesn't come up the same
[04:29] <kjaer> .doc support is at least as good in oo.o as in ms office.
[04:29] <kjaer> Which is sad, really.
[04:30] <nuked_omen> yeah, it makes OO.o bound to ms office
[04:30] <osfameron> when I used lyx it generated invalid tex :-)
[04:30] <salambander> nuked_omen: Ah. My bad.
[04:30] <osfameron> which was annoying, as the reason I wanted to use lyx was to avoid having to learn tex :D
[04:30] <osfameron> then again, I was playing with it rather than actually using it seriously
[04:30] <kjaer> osfameron, I use texmacs for everything. Try it.
[04:31] <nuked_omen> i find doing the tex code a bit distracting
[04:31] <nuked_omen> i don't use lyx only because it does the code, but it lets me focus more on the content
[04:31] <osfameron> kjaer: cool, I'll check it out
[04:32] <funkyHat> tarzan_, why did you need the new drivers from nvidia.com? you may be able to fix it by running sudo rmmod nvidia and then trying to start gdm again...
[04:32] <kjaer> osfameron, But remember to use the shortcuts. The menus are painful.
[04:32] <nuked_omen> everything starts with alt+m
[04:32] <tarzan_> funkyHat: aiglx with nvidia drivers
[04:32] <osfameron> kjaer: yeah.  Oh... just occured to me tex*macs* might be emacs based?  eeek!
[04:32] <kjaer> nuked_omen, headlines alt+[1,2,3]
[04:32] <kjaer> osfameron, It is not :-)
[04:33] <osfameron> I was considering latex-suite for vim, but that has a learning curve too
[04:33] <funkyHat> tarzan_, isn't that supported in the latest nvidia drivers in edgy?
[04:33] <osfameron> kjaer: excellent
[04:33] <kjaer> But there are some awkward shortcuts
[04:33] <kjaer> super + T + n + b new block in table.
[04:34] <nuked_omen> osfameron, latex isn't really hard to learn, cuz it's mainly markup.. so if you're used to html, it won't be a 'big' problem
[04:34] <osfameron> cool!  I have texmacs installed on cygwin already so can try from work pc
[04:34] <tarzan_> funkyHat: it works much better with the newer drivers...
[04:34] <osfameron> oh, except for my x server being badly configured.  *sigh*  I'll install on ubuntu lappy then...
[04:35] <sheriff> how can i know my real ip address
[04:35] <kjaer> sheriff, myip.dk
[04:35] <krang> Anyone know why this command isn't generating me a file full o' random data? It just sits there doing nothing: dd if=/dev/random of=100MB count=204800
[04:35] <funkyHat> tarzan_, ahh ok (wouldn't know I'm running Gentoo on my nVidia machine)
[04:35] <pty> sherrif: /sbin/ifconfig
[04:35] <salambander> sheriff: you could /whois yourself.
[04:36] <tarzan_> hi... i installed new nvidia drivers from nvidia.com. it works, but now everytime i restart the system gdm won't start saying the versions of glx and the nvidia-module mismatch... the glx module is 9631, whereas the kernel module is older... any ideas?
[04:36] <sheriff> salambander : thanks
[04:36] <nuked_omen> gotta jet
[04:36] <nuked_omen> later
[04:36] <funkyHat> tarzan_, any luck unloading the nvidia module then trying again? If you installed the nvidia.com drivers correctly it should have updated the nvidia kernel module, so all you need to do is rmmod the old one then start X again
[04:36] <Menisk> sheriff: You can also go to www.whatismyip.com
[04:37] <tarzan_> funkyHat: the driver works nicely, until i restart the pc
[04:38] <funkyHat> tarzan_, oh... now that is confusing!
[04:38] <tarzan_> funkyHat: indeed
[04:38] <chable> hello
[04:39] <sholden> anyone have tips for setting up an XGL session w/ ATI dual head setup?  I have dual head working w/ aticonfig, but I cant seem to get an XGL session started.  Any help is much appreciated.
[04:39] <chable> sholden what version are u running
[04:39] <Matt> hey guys, someone do me a favour and give me a file listing from /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/char/ipmi/ ?
[04:39] <Matt> from an up to date system
[04:40] <Zaggynl> Hi, I'm using the TeamSpeak 2 client, but my sound recording stopped working in ubuntu
[04:40] <jrib> Matt: edgy: ipmi_devintf.ko  ipmi_msghandler.ko  ipmi_poweroff.ko  ipmi_si.ko  ipmi_watchdog.ko
[04:40] <Gun_Smoke> How do I unpack a tar from the command line?
[04:40] <Zaggynl> Is there a way -besides rebooting- to fix this?
[04:40] <jrib> Gun_Smoke: tar xf file.tar
[04:40] <Matt> thankyou very much
[04:40] <chable> tar -xvf archive.tar
[04:40] <n2diy> What directories should I have backed up, if I need to restore my system?
[04:40] <Matt> that's just what I needed :&)
[04:40] <Zaggynl> What's a quick way to restart sound service
[04:41] <Gun_Smoke> jrib: chable: are those both one in the same?
[04:41] <jrib> Gun_Smoke: chable's prints out what it is doing
[04:41] <Lapfunc> hi.  trying to get devilspie working.  i have a condition file in ~/.devilspie/ with the suffix .ds, and i have devilspie running, but when i launch the application that should match, devilspie does nothing.  the condition i'm using is here: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/n94uPx53.html and the app i'm launching is gnome-terminal.  any ideas?
[04:41] <jrib> Gun_Smoke: v = verbose
[04:41] <chable> indeed
[04:41] <Gun_Smoke> Thanks then guys.
[04:42] <dudanogueira> on edgy, where i should mess up for enable/disabling services from running on boot?
[04:42] <boink> anyone here using pure_ftpd on dapper?
[04:42] <boink> the debian version of pure_ftpd works very well, but the ubuntu version won't do virutal users
[04:43] <chable> brb
[04:43] <n2diy> dudanoqueria, system/admin/services
[04:43] <dudanogueira> boink, it could be an option inserted on the compilation time (im guessing)
[04:43] <boink> who knows? with apt-get you just install a binary
[04:44] <dudanogueira> n2diy, the service in question (openvpn) isnt show at this dialog
[04:44] <boink> I really think the ubuntu version is broken
[04:44] <php-freak> ow do I export openoffice files into a ms word files so its readable?
[04:44] <boink> php-freak: save as
[04:44] <php-freak> i renamed it to .doc, and my client tried to open it, but she said it was encrypted
[04:44] <dudanogueira> boink, you also can compile it for yourself. try to check the version avalible on debian and compare it with the ubuntus version
[04:45] <boink> gosh .. it's so nice wasting time when things are broken in ubuntu
[04:45] <chable> ok
[04:45] <dudanogueira> php-freak, on the save as dialog, insert the .doc at the end of the filename
[04:45] <n2diy> dudanoqueira, then take a look around in /etc/services
[04:45] <php-freak> i saved it as ms word xp
[04:45] <php-freak> is it the encoding?
[04:45] <dudanogueira> boink, isnt broken, is diferent... one time i prefered to use samba on ubuntu repos, beacuse the debian samba doesnt had mac osx support
[04:46] <boink> I think it's broken.
[04:46] <boink> with debian, I had it up and running with virutal users within 5 minutes
[04:46] <boink> with ubuntu, doesn't work at all
[04:46] <dudanogueira> on ubuntu it was a newer version, and with compilations options that allowed macosx access, debian no. every distro set the default compilations options for feet their needs
[04:47] <boink> and the newer version doesn't allow virtual users? great
[04:47] <mnoir> php-freak: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Communication lists like 20 oo channels to ask this kind of question
[04:47] <dudanogueira> boink, compare the two versions
[04:47] <boink> or the newer version doesn't have documentation and they expect us to read their minds.
[04:47] <mrtanooki> hiy
[04:47] <boink> great .. dammit, what a waste of time
[04:47] <sholden> chable, I'm running Edgy
[04:48] <sholden> sorry, had to go afk for a minute
[04:48] <sholden> at work
[04:48] <boink> I'm filing a very angry bug report here.
[04:48] <Markus___> Hello. I are trying to install a program that needs kernel header.. But how do i get that? apt-chache search kernel-header only output 2.4 kernel-headers
[04:48] <boink> and this is on dapper! ha!
[04:48] <chable> sholden  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[04:48] <chable> u will find useful stuff there
[04:48] <Tomoe> hello guys I need some help with getting kernel audio mixing to work
[04:48] <chable> and the XGL for ati thing
[04:48] <Ruin> hy ^.^
[04:48] <erUSUL> Markus___: linux-headers
[04:48] <mrtanooki> 	x)
[04:48] <Markus___> erUSUL, okey.. thc
[04:49] <Ruin> mrtanooki: lol
[04:49] <Tomoe> lol
[04:49] <sholden> tried that chable.  Still have problems when starting the XGL session
[04:49] <chable> i like the multicore support
[04:49] <vlraptor> somebody has a nokia d211 PCMCIA for wireless?
[04:49] <sholden> i think it's a problem w/ dual head setup specifically
[04:49] <chable> sholden , i ran it for nvidia and everythng went fine
[04:49] <sholden> hmm
[04:49] <chable> i dont know what to say about ati
[04:49] <sholden> ok
[04:50] <yango> where's man fork?
[04:50] <chable> u should check the config files
[04:50] <yango> in which package?
[04:50] <QwertyM> wewt, Segoe UI looks cool on Xchat
[04:50] <yango> I've tried glibc-doc linux-doc libcorelinux-doc
[04:50] <Tomoe> hyu gentlemen
[04:50] <Ruin> omg, hy Tomoe ^.^
[04:50] <Tomoe> could someone help me with getting in-kernel audio mixing to work?
[04:50] <yango> and I still don't have man fork
[04:50] <yango> !
[04:50] <rohall> Hey everyone, Im hoping you can point me in the right direction.  I recompiled Mesa 6.5.2 and glxinfo is still reporting the renderer as Mesa 6.5.1.  I just did a make linux-dri-x86, according to the docs that was all that was needed, but im guessing there may be a config file or something I should be looking at?  Thanks for any information!
[04:51] <Tomoe> hy Ruin
[04:52] <michaelpo> which screensaver turn off the screen instead of blank... as blank still have some backlight.....
[04:53] <php-freak> it was the encoding
[04:53] <scythe128> has anyone found out how to get sound input working on an ATI TV Wonder PRO card?
[04:53] <Adam_G> hi people. Does anyone know how to open microsoft _works_ files from Linux?
[04:54] <yango> microsoft works is an oxymoron 8-)
[04:54] <QwertyM> lol
[04:54] <kyja> LOL
[04:54] <scythe128> adam, you can run works in wine
[04:54] <scythe128> I have it installed just to be perverse
[04:54] <wallace> 	x)
[04:54] <scythe128> :)
[04:54] <Adam_G> ya I know... my mother is playing file-format tag between her home and school computers (All running microsoft!)
[04:55] <scythe128> you should also be able to open it inopen office
[04:55] <wallace> 	x)
[04:55] <Adam_G> nope, openoffice can't do .wps
[04:55] <LjL> wallace: ?
[04:55] <scythe128> really?
[04:55] <Adam_G> Well, I haven't tried. But it's not in the file format list
[04:55] <jamesbrose> My friend is trying to boot 64bit 6.10, he is getting this error: Decompressing linux... Done
[04:55] <jamesbrose> Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work ! try using the 'noapic' kernel parameter  can anybody help?
[04:55] <Adam_G> if she were running linux I could scp the file over and try it on this computer...
[04:57] <amicrawler> ./join #macintosh
[04:57] <MrFatJack> I had xgl and compiz set up and running fine on 6.06. When I upgraded to 6.10 it no longer works. Also when I log in I get a desktop with no window manager. I have to go to terminal and type metacity& to control windows on my screen. Any thoughts on how to fix this?
[04:57] <erUSUL> !boot
[04:57] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:57] <yango> !doc
[04:57] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[04:57] <erUSUL> !boot | jamesbrose
[04:57] <ubotu> jamesbrose: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:57] <amicrawler> ./join #apple
[04:57] <wallace> 	x)
[04:57] <boink> yup .. dapper's pureftpd is broken
[04:57] <amicrawler> ./join #mac
[04:57] <erUSUL> jamesbrose: you have to add noapic to kernel boot options
[04:57] <boink> edgy's pureftpd works perfectly
[04:58] <ailean> wtf was wallace doin? trying to crash the server?
[04:58] <boink> dang :/
[04:58] <jamesbrose> lol nope iw ill tell him to do that
[04:58] <LjL> ailean: i have no idea. i poked him, and he didn't give an explanation, so...
[04:58] <L0cKd0wN> ok so im totally new to ubuntu, raised on fedora, why can't I su - ?
[04:58] <falso> 	x)
[04:59] <Mathieu> is there anyway to install sylpheed-claws-gtk2?
[04:59] <boink> Lockdown: sudo su
[04:59] <jrib> ubotu: tell L0cKd0wN about sudo
[04:59] <boink> ubuntu has a different way of using "root"
[04:59] <boink> but it's still root
[04:59] <L0cKd0wN> yea, it blows my mind lol
[04:59] <chable> i need to install java
[04:59] <boink> don't we all
[04:59] <jrib> ubotu: tell chable about java
[04:59] <L0cKd0wN> im totally thrown by it
[04:59] <chable> cheers
[05:00] <boink> Lockdown: root is root
[05:00] <salah> is there any possibilities to get the back and forward button on the mouse to work with firefox?
[05:00] <chable> ubotu is very sneaky :)
[05:00] <boink> often I just "sudo su"
[05:00] <jrib> ubotu: tell salah about mouse
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is very sneaky :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <Menisk> I'm looking at setting up an ubuntu server and am wondering what are the best apps to use. I'm using apache for http. What should I use for irc, ftp amd dns
[05:00] <QwertyM> wow LjL's having a hard time? :p
[05:00] <scythe128> boink that any better than sudo bash? :)
[05:00] <boink> it is sudo bash
[05:00] <L0cKd0wN> does sshd work outta the box?
[05:01] <boink> no
[05:01] <boink> apt-get install ssh
[05:01] <L0cKd0wN> !?!?!
[05:01] <boink> (that's for the server)
[05:01] <L0cKd0wN> this box has no monitor, and I have no KVM heh
[05:01] <boink> if you want to ssh out of your box, that should work (I think)
[05:01] <L0cKd0wN> -1 for ubuntu lol
[05:01] <jrib> yeah, ssh installs the client and server
[05:01] <boink> then apt-get install ssh for the ssh server
[05:01] <boink> jrib: so the client is not automagically installed?
[05:01] <L0cKd0wN> yea im used to sshd being available after installation of the OS
[05:01] <L0cKd0wN> and yum
[05:02] <jrib> boink: it might be
[05:02] <L0cKd0wN> ;)
[05:02] <boink> yum = apt-get
[05:02] <boink> yum is based on apt-get
[05:02] <chable> jrib  i get an error
[05:02] <chable> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[05:02] <lupine_85> anybody with ubotu power willing to modify my url in the nvidiabeta nugget for me?
[05:02] <jrib> chable: you need to enable multiverse
[05:02] <chable> i think its enabled
[05:02] <boink> !sources.list
[05:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:02] <jrib> chable: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:02] <php-freak> is there anything i can instal that will make ubuntu look more like windows xp desktop, like smaller icons, and all my fonts, and everything look the same. Basically a more clearer view of everything?
[05:02] <chable> it isnt
[05:03] <chable> deb http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:03] <chable> deb-src http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:03] <Menisk> !ubotu
[05:03] <boink> php-freak: ever used kde?
[05:03] <Menisk> :P
[05:03] <php-freak> no
[05:03] <Crescendo_> I'm trying to connect to my VNC server, and I'm getting this: ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104) - how can I fix it? I've got the right port forwarded, and an nmap of the machine shows the port as listening
[05:03] <php-freak> how do i get kde
[05:03] <chable> deb http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:03] <chable> deb-src http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:03] <LjL> Ubotu, tell php-freak about kde | php-freak, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:03] <chable> sorry
[05:03] <chable> wrong paste
[05:03] <QwertyM> php-freak, do a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:04] <chable> deb http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:04] <chable> deb-src http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:04] <php-freak> cool
[05:04] <chable> those 4 sources are enabled
[05:04] <jrib> chable: use pastebin
[05:04] <jrib> ubotu: tell chable about multiverse
[05:04] <chable> cheers
[05:04] <Menisk> !multiverse
[05:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:04] <yakumo> hello i just install the ubuntu 6.10 , and i have trouble installing the Graphics Driver (NVIDIA)..
[05:04] <jrib> chable: (add " multiverse" to the end of those lines with universe) basically.  But there are also security repos you may want...
[05:05] <chable> thanks
[05:05] <php-freak> now i just got to get this sound card working, I might have to get a new one if i can't ge this working
[05:05] <protocol1> are the nvidia beta drivers better on performace?
[05:05] <Tarkus> hey, im going to be buying a new LCD monitor, is widescreen better than fullscreen monitors, for graphics/illustration and 3d modeling/rendering? any suggestions?
[05:05] <QwertyM> yakumo, what trouble specifically ?
[05:05] <chable> i couldnt remeber where i need to add them
[05:05] <php-freak> Ljl: what other cool things can i do to linux?
[05:05] <chable> i think i should add another source link
[05:05] <AzMoo> Can anybody recommend a good bittorrent client? I like utorrent on Windows, but I haven't been able to find anything similar for Linux.
[05:05] <chable> than ro.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <jerp> php-freak here is icewm with a Windows Classic theme .....  http://themes.freshmeat.net/screenshots/55565/59702/
[05:06] <LjL> php-freak: ask questions that are so generic as to be totally unanswerable?
[05:07] <php-freak> jerp: well I want every too look the same like my desktop to look the same like every at the top, and bottom. I just want the icons to be smaller, text better looking, and stuff to that nature
[05:07] <php-freak> now if install this thing you guys just gave me can i always go back to my old desktop look?
[05:07] <L0cKd0wN> AzMoo: use wine to run utorrent
every time i use the sudo nvidia-xconfig or edit the /etc/X11/XvMCConfig to nvidia... i cant accrss my desktop only error mssg apeear that the must be sonething wrong with my /etc/x11/ configuration
[05:08] <AzMoo> L0cKd0wN, good call.
[05:08] <L0cKd0wN> :), i've done it
[05:08] <L0cKd0wN> works beautifully
[05:09] <jerp> php-freak whatever that means ;)
[05:09] <yakumo> QwertyM> but when i change back the nvidia to nv using nano /etc/x11... i am able to access my desktop ..
[05:09] <php-freak> if i download kde, will i be able to go back to my old desktop look?
[05:09] <php-freak> jerp: thats what i was asking sorry
[05:09] <L0cKd0wN> gonna detach this monitor and connect to the box
[05:09] <boink> php-freak: you could try kubuntu
[05:09] <yakumo> QwertyM>any idea why?
[05:09] <php-freak> thats what im downloading right now is kubuntu
[05:09] <L0cKd0wN> how would I get xchat? apt-get .... install xchat
[05:09] <php-freak> ain't kubuntu kde?
[05:09] <QwertyM> yakumo, how did you install those drivers, thro repos or envy or manual ?
[05:09] <L0cKd0wN> apt-get xchat ?
[05:09] <Bakefy> is there a program out there that will convert m4a to mp3?
[05:09] <chable> those at ro.ubuntu.com dont have enough bandwidth
[05:09] <boink> php-freak: are you using ubuntu now?
[05:09] <QwertyM> mebbe they arent installed properly
[05:09] <php-freak> yeyes
[05:09] <e1Photon> L0cKd0wN, yea apt-get install xchat
[05:09] <php-freak> I'm using ubuntu
repos
[05:10] <boink> php-freak: so you could install kubuntu
[05:10] <L0cKd0wN> cool, this is gonna take gettin' used to heh
[05:10] <php-freak> So basically ubuntu is the desktop im using, or would it be called gnome?
[05:10] <chable> sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-systray
[05:10] <L0cKd0wN> gnome php-freak
[05:10] <php-freak> boink: im installing kubuntu right now
[05:10] <boink> kubuntu-desktop - Kubuntu desktop system
[05:10] <jerp> php-freak, If I were an English teacher I'd say there is something by ways of a subject missing here; "well I want every too look the same like my desktop to look the same like every at the top"
[05:10] <boink> still if that's what you want from a winow manager
[05:10] <boink> if not, there are many other window managers out there
[05:11] <L0cKd0wN> php-freak: gnome is the desktop manager, there are different flavors that run on the OS ubuntu, there's also KDE and XFCE which are popular
[05:11] <chable> java is up
[05:11] <boink> xfce is "xubuntu" :)
[05:11] <L0cKd0wN> thunar > *
[05:11] <jerp> get a thesaurus, the word 'every' was used twice in that sentence.
[05:11] <GK> I like to get the complete ubuntu source iso - could some one give some pointer
[05:12] <php-freak> L0cKd0wN, thanks for clarifying that. How can I get all the video codecs?
[05:12] <boink> GK: www.ubuntu.com
[05:12] <GK> no there I get only single CD image
[05:12] <chable> brb
[05:12] <stefg> !codecs
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:13] <L0cKd0wN> when I was on fedora, I went here: http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/
[05:13] <L0cKd0wN> for my codecs heh
[05:13] <hume> hi....it seems that I have some new printing problems (photos or big pdfs wont print) - where do I turn with that?
[05:13] <php-freak> I suppose im using gdm desktop right now, and need to switch to kdm
[05:13] <GK> I have twin CD set - live CD and OS installation ... those CD's do not have source or any extra stuff in it
[05:14] <L0cKd0wN> php-freak: if you have KDE installed you should be able to log out and switch the session upon login
[05:14] <php-freak> How would I do that?
[05:15] <e1Photon> there is a little icon on the bottom left of the login screen
[05:15] <L0cKd0wN> Should be an option to choose the session to load, go look :P
[05:15] <php-freak> This unbunti configuration came up, and asked if i wanted to use kdm, or gdm, I select kdm
[05:15] <Menisk> cat xchat.exploit - | netcat server 6667
[05:15] <php-freak> k
[05:15] <php-freak> k cool I will its still unpacking
[05:15] <Menisk> What is hat thing I just posted
[05:15] <L0cKd0wN> bbiab
[05:15] <minimec> Hi. Is there anybody that uses imwheel. I can't access the imwheel configuration helper ...
[05:15] <Menisk> Someone keeps doing it on freenode social
[05:16] <php-freak> Xen 3.03 looks cool
[05:16] <GK> Even in Ubuntu download site I get only single CD image
[05:16] <GK> so not sure where  to get the other CD's -
[05:17] <php-freak> so with kde installed I can choose from multiple desktops
[05:17] <e1Photon> php-freak, yes
[05:17] <yakumo> do i need to uninstall my nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[05:17] <php-freak> nice
[05:17] <AzMoo> L0cKd0wN, I'm having a bit of trouble getting it to run. Did you use the ubuntu version, or get it from the winehq repositories?
[05:17] <php-freak> I'm starting to like linux more everyday once I figure it out
[05:17] <php-freak> just need to get my sound card working, and ill be on my way
[05:18] <chable> back
[05:18] <jerp> yakumo, did you find the way to get your desktop icons to vanish?
[05:19] <Bakefy> what is the name of the file that lets me convert to mp3... lame something?
[05:19] <hume> i have problems printing photos - pinting jobs from digikam gets cancelled or "hold" - anyonw knows what to check or where to ask (channel #cups is not very populated)
[05:19] <_max_`> investigating
[05:19] <yakumo> nope i just format my 6.10 upgrade and install 6.10
[05:19] <boink> php-freak: kewl to hear that :)
[05:19] <yakumo> and now im having touble with the nvidia
[05:20] <hydrox> Hello?
[05:20] <php-freak> yea, well I didn't know there was this many desktops cause i don't really like the one I got right now, but I see theres a lot more to linux then just this desktop.
[05:20] <hume> php-freak, :)
[05:20] <php-freak> I'll tell you what I've been having a heck of a time trying to get my sound card working
[05:20] <hydrox> I had a question about a problem I'm having, if anyone minds helping out?
[05:21] <php-freak> brb guys its finished unpackking
[05:21] <hume> hydrox, what problem?
[05:22] <GK> hello - I have posted a query on ubuntu CD - could some one give some light on that
[05:22] <hydrox> hume, When I try and boot the 2.6 kernel, it just stops, i don't know how to make it output anything with verbosity, so even that will help. 2.4 kernel boots but dosen't have support for the SATA harddrive I have. I'm using an official disk, too, and it happens with every single Linux i've tryed
[05:23] <hume> hydrox, whats the exact point it stops, and do you have any error msgs?
[05:23] <minimec> Bakefy: http://www.mp3-converter.com/linux/index.htm
[05:23] <hydrox> it decompresses fine, and when it says "booting kernel..." it just freezes, no messages
[05:23] <hume> hydrox, is there any data in /var/log/syslog that tells about it, that is, where it stops booting the 2.6 kernel?
[05:23] <Bakefy> minimec, you rock
[05:23] <tim167> can anyone help me make a DVD from an avi ?
[05:24] <hume> hydrox, ubuntu regular kernel? right architecture?
[05:24] <hydrox> hume, It's booting off the CD, so i can't check any logs
[05:24] <hume> hydrox, are you sure the CD is OK? Tried booting it on another machine?
[05:24] <hydrox> Yeah, right architecture, i tryed both x86 and the 64bit one [my CPU supports both..well, it's ment to :P] , I've been using Linux for 3years, it's just a new computer, and a big problem with not much information :P
[05:25] <hydrox> yeah, the CD is okay
[05:25] <hydrox> I have about 7 Ubuntu ones, it has the same problem with my Debian ones too
[05:25] <Journeyman> I have a fresh install of ubuntu 6.10, I can't see any of the orange progess bars in gnome any idea what causes that?
[05:25] <hume> hydrox, you mean that the same thing happens with the computer if you boot off a debian CD with 2.6 kernel?
[05:26] <hydrox> Yeah, sorrie. Cold hands so my typing is screwy and i'm not explaining well
[05:26] <minimec> Journeyman: Did you change the theme?
[05:26] <Journeyman> no
[05:26] <yuv656> anyone know how to get twinview working?
[05:26] <minimec> Journeyman: hmmm...
[05:26] <yuv656> i tried 2 howtos from ubuntu forums, neither worked for me
[05:27] <Journeyman> ah maybe it is a theme issue
[05:27] <hume> hydrox, in that case there must be something with this particular kernel version and your computer, strange. can you try with other 2.6 kernels and see if they boot?
[05:27] <LjL> psusi: if i decided to try defrag on my root partition, would having it mounted read-only suffice, or must it not be mounted at all?
[05:27] <minimec> Journeyman: Well it could be, because depending on the theme you have, the colors of the progress bar is different.
[05:28] <Journeyman> minimec the thing is I don't get any color
[05:28] <Journeyman> nothing is there
[05:28] <yuv656> !twinview
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <Journeyman> how would I reinstall the theme
[05:28] <yakumo> bye for now got to figure out how to fix my new install 6.10
[05:28] <hydrox> I don't really want to deviate from Debian/Ubuntu kernels. It's older versions of the kernel have trouble too. Old debian, latest debian, x86, 64bit, old ubuntu, new ubuntu, all the same problem, all diffurent versions of the 2.6 kernel
[05:28] <minimec> Journeyman: Try to play around a little bit witih the gnome-theme-manager
[05:29] <Journeyman> minimec, yeah I am, when I do other themes I can get the bar
[05:29] <nubbe> is there an easy way to generate or get a list of artist, song, filename when doing an audio-cd with K3B?
[05:29] <Journeyman> how can one download the theme again and reinstall it
[05:29] <hume> hydrox, got to go have dinner, but I'm afraid I dont know about that. I'd try to install with 2.4-kernel and then install a  number of 2.6-kernels and check the logs
[05:29] <minimec> Journeyman: Go to gnome-look.org and look for 'Human'
[05:30] <Journeyman> thanks
[05:30] <minimec> np
[05:30] <hydrox> hume, I guess, but SATA harddrive, so I can't. Thank anyway :)
[05:30] <paolo> Hi: i need that kubuntu automounts a cd-rom, after instering it: is it possible?
[05:30] <hume> hydrox, what do you mean you cant? no support for sata in 2.4?
[05:30] <hydrox> hume, Yeah, as far as I know, and I can't really change the 2.4 kernel if there is
[05:31] <hume> hydrox, try asking in debian channel as well - must be someone else having that problem
[05:31] <hume> hydrox, good luck..:)
[05:31] <s0nix> Hi, im searching some who can send me a file to repair my broken system..... the file /lib/libpthread.2.4.... for 64bits system.
[05:31] <hydrox> hume, Thanks bro :)
[05:33] <s0nix> plz ? :P
[05:33] <L0cKd0wN2> question, how do I view the status of a service
[05:33] <L0cKd0wN2> in fedora, i'd do 'service sshd status'
[05:33] <php-freak> guys   see http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.zimmertech.com/images/kubuntu.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.zimmertech.com/tutorials/linux/55/kubuntu_review_tips.php&h=440&w=550&sz=63&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=jpoTt-QhYf4b8M:&tbnh=106&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkubuntu%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN this links
[05:34] <php-freak> I'm trying to get my desktop to look like that see how everything is real small, and precise which kbuntu is cool, but my text is just to large
[05:34] <php-freak> icons at the bottom are to big
[05:35] <defrysk> !offtopic | php-freak
[05:35] <ubotu> php-freak: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:35] <nubbe> is there an easy way to generate or get a list of artist, song, filename when doing an audio-cd with K3B?
[05:35] <L0cKd0wN2> anyone?
[05:36] <blackflare> anyone use a usb keyboard?
[05:36] <IceTox> Hey.. I downloaded Championship Manager 2007. It seems to be a .bin file. Anyone got a clue of how I can get this game working in ubuntu?
[05:36] <blackflare> Im not sure if its why, but Im not getting held key presses to register
[05:36] <philipp> nabend
[05:36] <php-freak> this sucks my font is way to big
[05:36] <blackflare> if anyone can help that would be cool, I wanna be able to hold the down arrow to scroll :(
[05:37] <L0cKd0wN2> IceTox, man mount
[05:37] <IceTox> ah.. so it's a matter of mounting the file than? :)
[05:37] <L0cKd0wN2> php-freak, ask in the off topic channel, they don't want you asking here, heh
[05:37] <defrysk> IceTox, sh blah.bin
[05:38] <defrysk> IceTox, or chmod +x blah.bin and then sh blah.bin
[05:38] <IceTox> aight :)
[05:40] <L0cKd0wN2> anyone, how would I view the status of a service, in this case sshd ?
[05:42] <salah> which version of the kernel should I have when the CPU model is "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+"?
[05:42] <reverseblade> IceTox, send an email to the manufacturer. So that they will now there are +1 linux users
[05:42] <reverseblade> probably they will ignore it but still it makes sense in the long run
[05:42] <reverseblade> K7
[05:42] <atlef> salah : generic
[05:42] <IceTox> I will do reverseblade :)
[05:43] <hydrox> salah, The one that has "64" written somewhere in it, or i386 if you can't find that
[05:43] <salah> atlef, hvorfor generic?
[05:43] <boink> what's the ubuntu notepad called?
[05:43] <reverseblade> boink, gedit
[05:43] <boink> ta
[05:44] <atlef> in ubuntu : all linux-images are made obsolete by the generic
[05:44] <mo> how can i killall a process when it survives a killall?
[05:44] <reverseblade> mo, killall -9
[05:44] <boink> kill -9 -1
[05:44] <boink> (huhuhhu) .. don't do that
[05:44] <mo> reverseblade, thanks!
[05:44] <atlef> hvis du bruker en annen distro, s er det noe annet
[05:45] <blackflare> does anyone have any thoughts why my usb keyboard wont do a held keypress? It registers each key but wont keep repeating it when held down
[05:45] <mo> reverseblade, what does "-9" mean?
[05:45] <reverseblade> mo, man killall
[05:45] <mnoir> mo: it means 'now, no nonsense'
[05:46] <mo> ok, thx :)
[05:46] <mnoir> only use it when absolutely needed
[05:46] <psusi> generally to be avoided unless the program is hung and won't respond to the normal kill
[05:46] <reverseblade> mnoir, mostly you will have to use it with wine programs
[05:46] <wjbaird> hey all - don't suppose there are any metacity guru's around?
[05:46] <reverseblade> wjbaird, I am an expert and the lead developer of the project
[05:47] <L0cKd0wN2> how would I view the status of a service, in this case sshd ?
[05:47] <reverseblade> wjbaird, kidding of course
[05:48] <protocol1> is there a way I can increase my swap size
[05:48] <reverseblade> L0cKd0wN, pgrep sshd , ps aux |grep sshd or ps -ef | grep sshd
[05:48] <LjL> !no | atlef
[05:48] <ubotu> atlef: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[05:48] <defrysk> L0cKd0wN, not sure but you could try saidar
[05:48] <L0cKd0wN2> ah
[05:48] <defrysk> !saidar
[05:48] <reverseblade> protocol1, unmount it resize the partition re mount it
[05:48] <ubotu> saidar: curses-based program which displays live system statistics. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 100 kB
[05:48] <atlef> i know
[05:48] <L0cKd0wN2> so no 'service' in ubuntu?
[05:48] <protocol1> I mean virtual memory
[05:48] <L0cKd0wN2> like service sshd status
[05:48] <L0cKd0wN2> ;(
[05:48] <mo> mnoir, thank you. i needed it because java needed 196% cpu (searching for null) ;)
[05:48] <LjL> psusi, ping
[05:48] <reverseblade> L0cKd0wN, serivces are a called daemons in linux sshd is a daemon.
[05:49] <wjbaird> I upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 on the weekend, and I'm getting weird xinerama behavior with metacity --- it won't let me drag windows completely off my primary display...  I've switched to xfwm4 temporarily, but I'd rather figure out how to fix metacity.   It was working fine in 6.06...
[05:49] <L0cKd0wN2> reverseblade, ok thx, i've been raised on fedora, need to break some habits apparently
[05:49] <reverseblade> L0cKd0wN, you can inspect them by System > Adminis... > services
[05:49] <mnoir> j /#metacity
[05:49] <mnoir> sorry :)
[05:49] <defrysk>  /j #blah
[05:50] <IceTox> icetox@Angelica:~/Championship.Manager.2007-RELOADED[www.moviex.info] $ chmod +x rld-cmk7.bin
[05:50] <IceTox> icetox@Angelica:~/Championship.Manager.2007-RELOADED[www.moviex.info] $ sh rld-cmk7.bin
[05:50] <IceTox> rld-cmk7.bin: rld-cmk7.bin: cannot execute binary file
[05:50] <reverseblade> nickserv identify s0L@r1s
[05:50] <reverseblade> lke ths
[05:50] <reverseblade> hehe
[05:50] <wjbaird> mnoir --- given that the problem was caused by an ubuntu upgrade, I wanted to start here...
[05:50] <L0cKd0wN2> IceTox, http://rafb.net/paste
[05:50] <psusi> LjL: pong
[05:50] <LjL> psusi: if i decided to try defrag on my root partition, would having it mounted read-only suffice, or must it not be mounted at all?
[05:50] <naxx> ##unavailable
[05:50] <IceTox> yeah, sorry about that L0cKd0wN :)
[05:50] <psusi> LjL: it must not be mounted at all
[05:50] <L0cKd0wN2> :P
[05:50] <ThePub> wjbaird: xserver driver?  any other apparent issues?  do you see the window appear on the other screen?
[05:51] <psusi> LjL: think about it... defrag is moving stuff around out from under the kernel... it would get very pissed off when things arne't where it expects them to be
[05:51] <Al-Daja> how can i configure an wireless internet?
[05:51] <wjbaird> ThePub: I don't think it's an X issue - using xfwm4 everything seems fine...
[05:51] <LjL> psusi: that was why i asked in the first place. on the other hand, you have other filesystems such as NTFS that can even be defragmented online, with everything mounted r/w, so the question kind of made sense to me ;-)
[05:52] <ThePub> wjbaird: ok, great.  hope you can fix it.
[05:52] <IceTox> defrysk: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ChCiZL90.html <-- Can you please have a looka t this? :)
[05:52] <psusi> LjL: that isn't done by directly manipulating blocks... the filesystem supports ioctls to move the files around
[05:52] <Al-Daja> how can i configure an wireless internet?
[05:52] <reverseblade> !wireless | Al-Daja
[05:52] <ubotu> Al-Daja: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:53] <defrysk> IceTox, it only works on windows
[05:53] <Abd_Samy> hello all
[05:53] <boink> Al-Daja: you mean your wireless card?
[05:53] <psusi> LjL: so the filesystem moves the blocks when it is good and ready, and knows where they are at all times... of course, this slows things down and bloats the filesystem code...
[05:53] <Abd_Samy> guys can anyone tell me how i can install ubuntu from a hard disk
[05:53] <Al-Daja> wireless usb linked to a router linked to a modem to be more specific boink
[05:53] <boink> depends on which usb-think you have there.
[05:53] <psusi> Abd_Samy: from a hard disk?
[05:53] <Abd_Samy> yeah
[05:54] <boink> not all wireless cards work with the linux kernel
[05:54] <Al-Daja> boink define
[05:54] <Al-Daja> smc heard about?
[05:54] <boink> which chip does your usb-thing have?
[05:54] <LjL> psusi: which wouldn't matter to much if the FS were in userland *cough* anyway, offtopic discussions aside - i'm also interested in knowing (in plaintext) what you had to do in order to make defrag ext3 compatible
[05:54] <boink> smc ... that's Chinese.
[05:54] <reverseblade> boink, but there is always ndiswrapper for rescuing
[05:54] <boink> I've used their routers before
[05:54] <boink> sure
[05:54] <cyberjunkie> hahaha IceTox
[05:54] <IceTox> defrysk: that sucks - doesn't it? :| You sure I cannot make it through using wine? =)
[05:55] <psusi> LjL: see the changelog
[05:55] <defrysk> IceTox, dunno google for it if its possible
[05:55] <cyberjunkie> wait is that sarcasm!
[05:55] <Abd_Samy> how can i do that
[05:55] <eichi> hello, how can i change the manpage language in ubuntu?
[05:55] <pos69sum> hi
[05:56] <Al-Daja> boink any idea?
[05:56] <IceTox> cyberjunkie: if you reffered to me, I did not mean to be sarcastic at all..
[05:56] <pos69sum> i went from dapper to edgy - and now i can't run update-manager.  when i start it up, i get various python errors.
[05:56] <LjL> eichi: uhm, i'm not sure the manpages are very translated...
[05:56] <reverseblade> eichi, uh oh, AFAIK you cant
[05:56] <pos69sum> i've tried reinstalling it and ubuntu-desktop via synaptic, but that doesn't work
[05:56] <cyberjunkie> isnt that a cd image, how do you expect it to run like that :P
[05:57] <psusi> LjL: basically I just shut off the patch that was in there that specifically refused to work on ext3... and made another patch to fix a bug that caused it to hose up the journal inode ( and any other reserved inodes )
[05:57] <eichi> reverseblade: realy?
[05:57] <Abd_Samy> how i can install ubuntu from HARD-DESK
[05:57] <Bollinger> can someone tell me how update-java-alternatives determines the list of java VMs installed? (I looked at the script and dont understant)
[05:57] <reverseblade> pos69sum, unfortunately some issues reported with that upgrade process
[05:57] <psusi> Abd_Samy: what do you mean?
[05:57] <pos69sum> so, does this mean i should reinstall?  or should i wait for a patch
[05:57] <reverseblade> eichi, yes, but you can have your help pages translated. man is technical
[05:57] <IceTox> cyberjunkie: because I'm a newbie and tried what I was told to do :/
[05:58] <eichi> reverseblade: how?
[05:58] <cyberjunkie> ah :< you use windwos usually i guess.. .bin / .iso / .nrg etc etc :P
[05:58] <reverseblade> pos69sum, dig it, may be there is a solution for it. But if not, don't be surprised
[05:58] <cyberjunkie> you know what im saying right?
[05:58] <atlef> IceTox : so you were told to steal cm07, and come here for help?
[05:58] <mahdi> hi, could anybody help me plz? I'm running feisty and when i hibernate/suspend and then resume i get only a blank screen... what could b wrong? The suspend/hibernate procedures seems to b right, resuming is what i think is wrong
[05:58] <reverseblade> !fiesty | mahdi
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <pos69sum> i have been looking for a day now.  i've posted on the forums too, nothing.
[05:59] <Abd_Samy> i have ubuntu edgy cd in my hard okay and i havnt CD-Rom to put it there coz that i wanna know how i can install ubuntu direct from hard-disk
[05:59] <Al-Daja> any way to i know what are the wireless usb compatible to ubuntu?
[05:59] <reverseblade> mahdi, try #ubuntu+1
[05:59] <reverseblade> Al-Daja, google
[05:59] <eichi> reverseblade: I mean the --help textes ;) because for examle adduser --help is very bad in german, my friend likes to prefer english then
[05:59] <mahdi> reverseblade:  ok. Tkz
[05:59] <psusi> Abd_Samy: are you currently running windows on the hard disk?
[05:59] <Abd_Samy> yeah
[05:59] <psusi> Abd_Samy: if so, then you can't... you have to boot from the cd
[05:59] <eichi> Abd_Samy: there is no wy i think
[06:00] <IceTox> lol atlef.. As I have the real copy on a cd at home, I'm not sure I'm doing that much illegal. This is just my work computer and I wanted to play some cm tonight. that's all :)
[06:00] <reverseblade> eichi, contact the translators then. I don't know
[06:00] <L0cKd0wN2> network installation...
[06:00] <reverseblade> eichi, AFAIK man pages have no translations
[06:00] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[06:00] <Abd_Samy> but i think i read i can do that but i dont remember where i read it
[06:00] <mahdi> reverseblade: i had this problem with edgy too
[06:00] <atlef> IceTox : ok, but it said RELOADED at the end.............
[06:00] <atlef> IceTox : so
[06:00] <Abd_Samy> by the way thank u
[06:00] <DouchePirate> 	x)
[06:00] <LjL> psusi: so again, if i tried it on a real partition such as my root partition, is there anything you'd be specifically interested in having me check out?
[06:00] <reverseblade> mahdi, then re ask your question as if it happens in edgy
[06:00] <Zoohouse> I having a little problem removing a key from gpg.. Here is what I am doing with the the error message: http://www.shortText.com/3hy31
[06:00] <Zoohouse>
[06:01] <mahdi> hi, could anybody help me plz? I'm running edgy and when i hibernate/suspend and then resume i get only a blank screen... what could b wrong? The suspend/hibernate procedures seems to b right, resuming is what i think is wrong.
[06:01] <Abd_Samy> i'll searching now if i found it i'll tell u
[06:01] <psusi> LjL: other than it NOT eating your filesystem for lunch? ;)
[06:01] <Abd_Samy> thanx
[06:01] <eichi> reverseblade: i dont mean the manpages..i want so change the application language then
[06:01] <hydrox> Abd_Samy, Hey, I know
[06:01] <Abd_Samy> really how
[06:01] <Abd_Samy> >
[06:01] <reverseblade> mahdi, this is a hardware specific issue. Search the forums and google, if some one with the same hardware succeded with the hibernate.
[06:01] <hydrox> Abd_Samy, If you use VMware to install from the ISO image, in a virtual machine, and then DD that image to a harddrive partition, it should work
[06:01] <IceTox> atlas: yes, it does, but I do have the bought version as well.
[06:02] <reverseblade> eichi, you can do it while you are loggin in. In the splash screen there's a options thing. I think you can set the language from there
[06:02] <atlef> IceTox : ok
[06:02] <LjL> psusi: yeah, other than that. i suppose i'm going to check that one by doing a "find / some-options-to-print-all-file-attributes" and a full run of md5sum before and after the defrag
[06:02] <L0cKd0wN2> if he has another box with a cd drive, he could also do a network installation, but he'll need to build a small LAN for that
[06:03] <psusi> LjL: that would be good... as well as a fsck -f before and after the defrag
[06:03] <Abd_Samy> okay
[06:03] <Abd_Samy> thanx i'll try it
[06:03] <L0cKd0wN2> just an idea Abd_Samy  ;)
[06:03] <LjL> psusi: but besides that, i can time the defrag, and perhaps do some before/after benchmarking as well, possibly in a smarter way than just timing the md5sum time
[06:03] <atlef> IceTox : i can't help you anyway, don't know wine at all
[06:03] <hydrox> Abd_Samy, Same here, but it shoulden't take longer than about 10 minutes of interaction to do
 thanx
[06:03] <psusi> LjL: also you might play with the buffer parameter to use more ram... could speed it up
[06:04] <psusi> LjL: it used to use only 2 MB of ram ( it was written when a 4 MB machine was a beast )... I boosted it to 32 MB... more could be better
[06:04] <sercik_> can you read me?
[06:04] <LjL> psusi: i also assume the fragmentation data before running defrag would be useful to know. so is there something i might run to get some interesting data besides defrag itself with the relevant show-me-the-fragmentation-data option?
[06:04] <Abd_Samy> loool i'll try hydrox
[06:04] <LjL> sercik_: no
[06:04] <hydrox> Abd_Samy, Awesome, tell me how it goes :)
[06:04] <sercik_> i have configured kopete
[06:04] <Abd_Samy> okay
[06:04] <patrick_king> !!mp3
[06:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:04] <sercik_> hi to all!
[06:04] <jorgp> anyone else experiencing firefox crashing sometimes? mine has crashed 5 times this week
[06:05] <reverseblade> jorgp, no, not at all
[06:05] <Xaice>  datei generieren die genau 1gb gro ist
[06:05] <LjL> !de | Xaice
[06:05] <ubotu> Xaice: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:05] <M3G4crux> hi to all
[06:05] <psusi> LjL: fsck gives a general fragmentation report... the package also contains a program called frag that checks a specific file for its fragmentation
[06:06] <The-Compiler> Hello
[06:06] <M3G4crux> can anyone boot ubuntu with a resolution of 1920x1200?? I have tried to pass the boot parameter vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1920x1200-32 but its not working
[06:06] <M3G4crux> in the console of course
[06:06] <ismail> hi all
[06:06] <BlackHawk> hi
[06:06] <The-Compiler> Hi
[06:06] <reverseblade> hi
[06:06] <LjL> !hi
[06:06] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:06] <ismail> how is everyone doing?
[06:06] <M3G4crux> in fact I have tried many resolutions .. unsucessefully
[06:07] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, I am running 1680 x 1050
[06:07] <M3G4crux> ok let me take note of your boot parameter line please
[06:07] <pos69sum> are you able to post to ubuntu-users from gmail?
[06:07] <blackflare> damnit. tvtime was working perfectly, I rebooted and now it says "format unsupported by creative nx" cannot open capture device /dev/video0
[06:07] <pos69sum> i have submitted a couple emails and it looks like they are never posted
[06:07] <M3G4crux> can you tell it to me reverseblade
[06:08] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, no, I am gonna leave now sorry
[06:08] <M3G4crux> just tell me if you used vga or vesafb in the boot
[06:08] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, what boot parameter anyway? I am have installed it standard way and never touched anything
[06:08] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, how to check it ?
[06:08] <ismail> guys im going to buy a vedeo card with in the next few days and im wondering whats the most compatible card i can get?
[06:08] <ismail> any ideas?
[06:09] <M3G4crux> grep 1680x1050 /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:09] <L0cKd0wN2> anything nvidia pretty much
[06:09] <ismail> hmmm
[06:09] <sercik_> ciao
[06:09] <ismail> would the nvidia fx400 128mb work well with beryl?
[06:09] <L0cKd0wN2> support under linux tends to be better versus ati, but that's an off-topic question ;)
[06:09] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, nothing
[06:09] <M3G4crux> grep video or grep vga will do
[06:09] <M3G4crux> in the same file
[06:10] <L0cKd0wN2> haven't used beryl, let alone under ubuntu, so I can't say
[06:10] <Journeyman> how do I change the icon in the applications menu
[06:11] <ismail> im looking at the fx400 and the fx5200 cause it mentions that that it supports open gl
[06:11] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, ok checking it
[06:11] <M3G4crux> thank you so much reverseblade
[06:11] <L0cKd0wN2> ismail, if I were you, i'd wait on purchasing a card, and wait for dx10 support.... but that's me
[06:11] <ismail> directx 10...
[06:11] <M3G4crux> ismail, wow that has to be nice
[06:11] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, nothing at all
[06:12] <M3G4crux> huh weird
[06:12] <L0cKd0wN2> and this old 600mhz box im on, supports opengl... that should be pretty much standard
[06:12] <M3G4crux> grep root
[06:12] <ismail> hmmm i dont play games lockdown2
[06:12] <reverseblade> sorry  I have to quit
[06:12] <M3G4crux> ok thx anyway
[06:12] <reverseblade> it spit some output regarding my kernel
[06:12] <M3G4crux> yes the boot parameters
[06:12] <M3G4crux> for the kernels you ahve
[06:12] <ismail> and from what i hear there wont be dx10 games for quite some time
[06:12] <patrick_king> !ntfs
[06:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:12] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[06:12] <M3G4crux> I bet it wont take so long
[06:13] <blackflare> does anyone here use tvtime?
[06:13] <L0cKd0wN2> up2u ;)
[06:13] <M3G4crux> that says nothing about resolutions :(
[06:13] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro single, thats it
[06:13] <reverseblade> no
[06:13] <ismail> the fx5200 is dirt cheep here something like 20$
[06:13] <M3G4crux> thx reverseblade
[06:13] <pos69sum> are you able to post to ubuntu-users from gmail?  my mails aren't going thru
[06:13] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, AFAIK it shouldn't resolution is set in xorg, are you talking for console ?
[06:13] <L0cKd0wN2> ismail, yea i have a nvidia 6100 chipset
[06:13] <M3G4crux> yes for console
[06:13] <L0cKd0wN2> runs fine
[06:13] <L0cKd0wN2> tackles 720p 1080i like a champ
[06:14] <M3G4crux> my console sucks, really low resolution and I dont like it that way
[06:14] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, ah sorry I got it wrong.
[06:14] <M3G4crux> dont worry reverseblade
[06:14] <M3G4crux> I appreciate anyway
[06:14] <reverseblade> M3G4crux, try #linux
[06:14] <ismail> hmmm oki and get the nvidia support i just download the nvidia packeges from the repo?
[06:14] <M3G4crux> ok, thx
[06:14] <nn> regarding yesterday's question about linux equivilent of splice mounts, it's called 'bind' or in my case rbind
[06:14] <ismail> or will i need extra config in the terminal?
[06:15] <L0cKd0wN2> ismail, there are packages available, but it might take some config
[06:15] <L0cKd0wN2> it's linux... sometimes you gotta tinker and config... lol
[06:15] <ismail> hmmm ok i guess i'lljust read the wiki in ubuntu
[06:16] <L0cKd0wN2> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[06:16] <L0cKd0wN2> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:16] <L0cKd0wN2> there ya go ;)
[06:16] <ismail> ok 2 more quick questions
[06:16] <L0cKd0wN2> and you can always edit xorg
[06:16] <ismail> how in gods name do u install lime wire
[06:16] <L0cKd0wN2> and why the hell am i giving advice, i've been using ubuntu for an hour.... lol
[06:16] <ismail> its giving me headachs
[06:16] <ismail> i'v installed java 5
[06:17] <L0cKd0wN2> what is lime wire?
[06:17] <ismail> i'v converted the rpm to .deb
[06:17] <ismail> it refuses to start
[06:17] <ismail> lockdown2: its like amule and gtk-guntella
[06:18] <L0cKd0wN2> i still have to read the man pages concerning the debian based packaging system, can't help ya
[06:18] <L0cKd0wN2> honest to god, been using this OS for an hour... heh
[06:18] <nubbe> is there an app or functionality that pipes copied text to a new line in a specified file, or something close?
[06:18] <pos69sum> are you able to post to ubuntu-users from gmail?  my mails aren't going thru
[06:19] <L0cKd0wN2> nubbe, example?
[06:19] <Journeyman> hmm
[06:19] <tenshu> hi all
[06:19] <The_Compiler> Hi
[06:19] <yuv656> i enabled twinview and now i cant lock my screen, what should i do to fix this?
[06:19] <Journeyman> In certain themes I can't see the progress bar
[06:19] <surface> exit
[06:19] <ismail> nubble: try klipper
[06:20] <nubbe> L0cKd0wN, I want to copy text and have each snippet appear in a specified file on a new line
[06:21] <pablo> hi, which are ubuntu recommended system requirements?
[06:21] <tenshu> I'm looking for a Point Of Sale management software for a small shop. Is anyone tries one and would recommand it
[06:21] <soppman> yo
[06:21] <soppman> how do i start another x server?
[06:21] <chable> how do i disable warnings ?
[06:21] <nubbe> L0cKd0wN, I'd also like to turn it off when I don't need it :)
[06:21] <ubun> how do you run 'identd' with irssi?
[06:22] <Journeyman> install oidentd
[06:22] <chable> brb
[06:22] <L0cKd0wN2> nubbe, sounds like something you'll need to code
[06:22] <L0cKd0wN2> nothing like that exists to my knowledge
[06:22] <pablo> hi, which are ubuntu recommended system requirements?
[06:22] <nn> ubun: apt-get install slidentd
[06:22] <L0cKd0wN2> how's ur C? :P
[06:23] <ismail> tenshu: try grisbi
[06:23] <pos69sum> after an update to edgy, i can't run update-manager.  i get python errors.  i've tried to reinstall update-manager via synaptic, didn't fix it.
[06:23] <pos69sum> should i try to clear my package db?
[06:23] <nubbe> L0cKd0wN, I was hoping something like tomboy or such, not good enough :( ...
[06:23] <ubun> well which identd is it :P oidentd or slidentd
[06:23] <nn> tenshu: I write POS software, but its very not cheap...
[06:24] <tenshu> ismail: grisbi is for accounting i'm looking for something wich could handle a cashier and a small stock
[06:24] <L0cKd0wN2> nubbe, yea but you want functionality that interacts with the GUI, you'll need to use the gtk probably to achieve what you want
[06:24] <ubun> piece of s software?
[06:24] <ubun> me too
[06:24] <nn> point of sale
[06:24] <ismail> ooooow
[06:24] <ismail> oki
[06:24] <ismail> sorry
[06:24] <tenshu> nn: whats the name?
[06:24] <ubun> oh, then not me too :p
[06:24] <LjL> psusi: so how does this sound? time fsck -f -v ; time ls -Ral > ls-before.out ; time md5deep -r > md5-before.out ; frag > frag.out ; time defrag -r -n -v ; time defrag -n -v ; time fsck -f -v ; time ls -Ral >ls-after.out ; time md5deep -r > md5-after.out ; diff ls-before.out ls-after.out ; diff md5-before.out mf5-after.out
[06:25] <nn> tenshu: kewiPOS is our software, but it's honestly very overpriced
[06:25] <MystaMax> is samba the solution I'm looking for if I want to back up a ubuntu-server directly to a windows server??
[06:25] <nubbe> L0cKd0wN, would be fine if it works with nano or some other text-only editor
[06:26] <tenshu> thanks nn, nobody knows a cheap/free POS manager?
[06:26] <cld2> is it possible to rotate one of my desktops in gnome?
[06:26] <ExxKA> MystaMax why not do it through ftp?
[06:26] <kane77> hi all
[06:26] <ExxKA> hey kane77
[06:26] <kane77> how do I turn on the wlan on laptop in ubuntu??
[06:26] <MystaMax> ExxKA, theres no ftp server on the windows server. I'm limited to win shares.
[06:26] <MystaMax> !wlan
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <L0cKd0wN2> nubbe, well when you select code in the terminal, that data goes into a memory block, you could probably use bash scripting to access that memory block, then write some routines to store in a file name you create
[06:27] <nn> MystaMax: ftp server on the linux box :P
[06:27] <nubbe> L0cKd0wN, I heard emacs does everything... ;)
[06:27] <L0cKd0wN2> nubbe, going terminal only definitely reduces complexity
[06:27] <ubun> !python
[06:27] <Narada> guys; i just installed java6 but how do i get update-alternatives to notice that there is a new java?
[06:27] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[06:27] <ExxKA> MystaMax, okay.. It's just that i don't believe samba has resume support, and did you consider what file system you are using on the m$?
[06:28] <nn> MystaMax: my recommendation is just do a tar of the ubuntu box and pull it via ftp to windows
[06:28] <ExxKA> !ruby
[06:28] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:28] <blackflare> if Im unable to rmmod bttv becase bt878 is in use, how do I stop bt878?
[06:28] <ColonelZarkawi> greetings ubuntu citizens
[06:28] <ExxKA> !rubyonrails
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rubyonrails - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <nubbe> L0cKd0wN, thanks anyway, I'll do some looking, then we'll see  :)
[06:28] <ExxKA> !rails
[06:28] <nn> MystaMax: or even http, anything that can resume
[06:28] <ubotu> rails: MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-1 (edgy), package size 1734 kB, installed size 12920 kB
[06:28] <nubbe> bye
[06:28] <L0cKd0wN2> nubbe, hehe np, sounds kinda like fun, cya
[06:28] <nn> MystaMax: of course, if you use samba anyways, you can set it all up so that the tarball is stored directly on a share on the doze box
[06:28] <ubun> !perl
[06:28] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB
[06:28] <MystaMax> ExxKA, I'll be using ntfs. i really just need the /var/www/ directory and my mysql dbs. I'm not familiar with resume
[06:29] <L0cKd0wN2> enough with the bot!
[06:29] <L0cKd0wN2> geez!
[06:29] <boink> I couldn't get mongrel installed on ubuntu dapper
[06:29] <MystaMax> nn, thats what i'm trying to do
[06:29] <L0cKd0wN2> google ffs
[06:29] <MystaMax> nn, tar the directory and then just copy to a winbox and have it backed up by BackupExec
[06:29] <ExxKA> MystaMax, resume just means that if a problem occurs with the transfer, the protocol know it should pick up where it left, and not start the transfer over
[06:29] <welly> hey all.. is it possible to do a network install of ubuntu 6.10?
[06:30] <MystaMax> ExxKA, ahh I gotcha
[06:30] <ismail> man there is alot to learn in debian
[06:30] <L0cKd0wN2> welly, yes
[06:30] <ismail> its fun
[06:30] <ubun> learning never ends
[06:31] <ismail> wellin windows xp it ended a long time ago for me
[06:31] <Patr|ck> anyone got a usb dvb-t ?
[06:31] <Patr|ck> it only comes with shitdows software, can anyone recommend any linux soft?
[06:31] <ismail> dvb?
[06:32] <Patr|ck> digital reciever
[06:32] <Patr|ck> for tv.
[06:32] <welly> L0cKd0wN, hmm.. want to install it from an os x machine, can't seem to find much info about doing that
[06:32] <ismail> ooow
[06:32] <ismail> i had a pci lifeview
[06:32] <MystaMax> ExxKA, nn, so would setting up samba and using rsync work? doesn't rsync support resume?
[06:32] <ismail> it worked like a charm in suse
[06:32] <nn> MystaMax: mount the smb share from windows someplace, tar jcvf /path/to/share/backup-$(date +%Y%m%d-%H%m).tar.bz2 /var/www /your-backup-of-dbs
[06:32] <Patr|ck> ismail: what was the software you used?
[06:32] <ismail> havent tried it in ubuntu
[06:32] <nn> MystaMax: isn't an rsync server
[06:33] <Xzyx987X> hey, how do you manually add a service to gnome's service manager?
[06:33] <leny> Patr|ck: I have a Hauppauge Win-TV HVR 900 USN running on Edgy with gxine and xine-lib recompiled at latest levels
[06:33] <L0cKd0wN2> welly, you'll need ftp, http, and dhcp server, and obviously a copy of the ubuntu installation .iso
[06:33] <ismail> patric. i cant remember it was just called tv i got it off the suse repo
[06:33] <welly> L0cKd0wN, ok.. i shouuld have all that
[06:33] <Patr|ck> ok, thx
[06:34] <sivik-sleep> !printer
[06:34] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:34] <atlef> can i use samba with vmwareplayer
[06:34] <ismail> but the rule in suse is as i remember is that usb periferals work better than pci
[06:34] <MystaMax> nn, I have virtual machine ready to become a mediator. it'll serve as the rsync server for the production web server, and have samba setup with a mounted windows share? Does that sound good?
[06:34] <L0cKd0wN2> welly: well if you don't it's apt-get install tftpd-hpa apache2 dhcp3-server
[06:35] <sivik-sleep> how do i add a printer via mozilla
[06:35] <kasper1990> Hej Guys
[06:35] <biotrox> hey all
[06:36] <MystaMax> hi
[06:36] <biotrox> i've been using ubuntu for 3 days now
[06:36] <kasper1990> cool :D
[06:36] <biotrox> linuxmint bea
[06:36] <sivik-sleep> how do i add a printer via firefox
[06:36] <kasper1990> so ur happy with it?
[06:36] <ubun> 3 begets 365
[06:36] <biotrox> sivik sleep | http://localhost:631
[06:36] <MystaMax> sivik-sleep, do you want to just print from FireFox?
[06:37] <nn> MystaMax: just use samba
[06:37] <citriz> i have a question. Every time i connect my iPod, Rhythmbox media player launches.. . is there a way to stop this? I dont want to use rhythm box...
[06:37] <sivik-sleep> MystaMax, yes, but i'm not using kde normal gnome and last time i added a printer, i did it from firefox
[06:37] <nn> MystaMax: tar it directly to the windows share
[06:37] <biotrox> !linuxmint
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxmint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <MystaMax> sivik-sleep, hmmm I'm not sure, did you see biotrox's response?
[06:38] <citriz> i have a question. Every time i connect my iPod, Rhythmbox media player launches.. . is there a way to stop this? I dont want to use rhythm box...
[06:38] <kasper1990> Hi I was wondering If anyone knows a way to add a virtual PDF printer so everywhere in Ubuntu where it is possible to print out on paper, it is also possible to save as a PDF? This is possible natively when using OS X, and can be done with PDFCreator for Windows, but I haven't found out how to do so in Linux yet.
[06:38] <sharperguy> ok, why has amarok suddenly lost  all its settings?
[06:39] <kasper1990> Anyone knows the solution for my question?
[06:39] <Diz7> After installing compiz as shown in ubuntuguide.org, keys like F12, Ctrl-Alt-Left and other shortcuts don't work (only Alt-Tab works). How do I fix it?
[06:39] <MystaMax> nn, thanks for the input
[06:40] <ismail> how do i get jave 1.5
[06:40] <L0cKd0wN2> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[06:42] <AlexC_> I've recently just purchased the Abit AW9D Motherboard after my previous Abit AB9 ment that I could not install Ubuntu due to JMicron problems
[06:42] <Xzyx987X> doesn't anyone know how to add services to gnome's service manager? I've been looking for a way to do this for nearly a wekk now...
[06:42] <AlexC_> I've read reviews of the Abit AW9D and have found people usign Linux on it - Yet I _still_ can not install Ubuntu
[06:42] <leny> citriz: Its specified in System > Preferences > Removable Drives and Media
[06:42] <AlexC_> It says it can not find the CD-Drive ( trying the Alternative installer ) - I have an IDE CD Drive which is master,
[06:42] <AlexC_> and 1 SATA hard drive,
[06:44] <AlexC_> the Desktop installer just locks up while loading up
[06:45] <sharperguy> I have lost my collection and my podcast list on amarok, the cache and podcast files are still in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok
[06:45] <AlexC_> Please would someone help me - I don't want to waste 150 on something I brought so I could use Linux, to then find out it still wont work.
[06:45] <Crescendo_> I'm trying to connect to my VNC server, and I'm getting this: ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104) - how can I fix it? I've got the right port forwarded, and an nmap of the machine shows the port as listening
[06:46] <cntb> AlexC_, is it a new laptop ?
[06:46] <biotrox> I like to order some DVD repositories for edgy... i'm in indonesia
[06:46] <nn> AlexC_: hrmm
[06:46] <AlexC_> cntb: no - it's a desktop PC
[06:46] <biotrox> from where must i order it..?
[06:46] <blackflare> how do I compile source code ? :/
[06:46] <biotrox> any link..?
[06:46] <Xzyx987X> is there a way to add keyboard shortcuts to gnome to lauch a command?
[06:46] <AlexC_> cntb: I've just now replaced my motherboard from an Abit AB9 which had issues with JMicron, with a Abit AW9D
[06:46] <blackflare> I need this webcam driver and its only available as source
[06:46] <cntb> I think you will finally succeed
[06:46] <biotrox> balckfare | read README/INSTALL file
[06:47] <cntb> why stick to abit ?
[06:47] <blackflare> ok
[06:47] <AlexC_> I have managed to sort of install Arch Linux - but I have no install guides for it - but that's given me hope that I know Linux _will_ install
[06:47] <AlexC_> Just Ubuntu fails to find my CD Drive
[06:47] <AlexC_> says I have to load extra CD modules, but I tried all of them and non worked
[06:47] <KenSentMe> I try to run the command sysinfo, but i get this error: *** stack smashing detected ***: sysinfo terminated. Anyone know a solution or another way to get system info?
[06:48] <cntb> install disk boots ? AlexC_ ?
[06:48] <AlexC_> cntb: the Alternate does, but the Desktop CD just locks up when loading ( the progress bar stops )
[06:49] <ubun> what kind of system info? uname, /proc/*
[06:49] <AlexC_> cntb: it also locks up if I go "check CD for defects" ( or what ever it is )
[06:49] <cntb> then it is pure hardware problem
[06:49] <cntb> CD drive is not expensive . also clean it
[06:50] <AlexC_> cntb: I'm going to see if I can find an old CD Drive around somewhere
[06:50] <ismail> try usin a live cd
[06:50] <cntb> relianle hardware is essential
[06:50] <AlexC_> cntb: I just pray to god it works! I hope I havn't wasted 150 for something that wont work =(
[06:50] <ubun> did you buy it on ebay?
[06:51] <ubun> my router arrived DOA :(
[06:51] <cntb> 150 was for MB CPU MEM ?
[06:51] <ismail> buy what
[06:51] <ismail> ?
[06:51] <AlexC_> cntb: no - jsut the motherboard,
[06:51] <kasper1990> exit
[06:51] <cntb> OK
[06:51] <AlexC_> I brought the motherboard because my old one, Abit AB9 would not let me install Ubuntu ( JMicron problems ) ubun - no, from an online store I always buy from
[06:51] <cntb> AlexC_,  is it warranty replacemnet ? no new buy is covered by 3 yrs warranty right ?
[06:52] <ismail> whats an abit?
[06:52] <cntb> not a big problem AlexC_ . see ?
[06:52] <AlexC_> cntb: hum? I don't understand
[06:52] <AlexC_> I can't send my Abit AB9 back because there is nothing wrong with it
[06:52] <wedemandoblivion> hey, I just started with ubuntu, and I can't figure out if there's a way to force quit troublesome applications. can anyone help me out?
[06:52] <AlexC_> instead I am going to sell my Abit AB9 and I have just brought a Abit AW9D
[06:52] <cntb> your MB must have its 3yrs warranty
[06:53] <AlexC_> cntb: it most probably does, but there is nothing wrong with my motherboard - so they wont except it
[06:53] <cntb> exactly my point AlexC_ . pls stop complaining about  150 wasted
[06:53] <ismail> AlwxC: wjays an Abit A89
[06:53] <cntb> find your problem and be happy
[06:53] <ismail> whats
[06:53] <AlexC_> cntb: I'm not understanding
[06:54] <cntb> your new board does not seem to be the problem. period
[06:54] <AlexC_> I sure hope not :P
[06:54] <cntb> ok you are losing me here
[06:54] <cntb> good luck
[06:55] <votum76> anyone know of a application to lock the intel speedstep at the highest speed
[06:55] <votum76> in edgy
[06:55] <Samus_Aran> how do I stop Ubuntu from rotating my logs all the time ?
[06:55] <Samus_Aran> I just want them to sit there and get larger.
[06:55] <Rookie_> logrotate
[06:55] <rm_you> Does anyone know where the settings are for changing the way certain windows are decorated in Gnome?
[06:55] <Samus_Aran> Rookie_: logrotate is what rotates them.  I want it to stop
[06:55] <atlef> AlexC_ : tried different bootparameters?
[06:55] <AlexC_> atlef: how do I do that?
[06:56] <Samus_Aran> rm_you: why only certain windows ?
[06:56] <ismail> look in the themes menue
[06:56] <rm_you> Samus_Aran: I need to disable decorations on a window so it looks fullscreen when maximized
[06:56] <ubu>  ubuntu-se-mote
[06:56] <rm_you> Samus_Aran: I know I did it before using pattern matching and I remember what the settings page looked like, I just dont remember how to get there
[06:56] <kane77> how do i turn on wlan on a laptop??
[06:57] <Samus_Aran> rm_you: ah.  I use ICEWM here, and I just go Alt+Enter to fullscreen any app (remove its decorations).  I don't know anything about doing such in Gnome, though, sorry
[06:57] <atlef> AlexC_ : hit F6 at fhe boot prompt, when you boot the cd/dvd and append noapic to the end of that line
[06:57] <dinamizador> hola
[06:57] <AlexC_> atlef: noapic ... ok, let me go try that!
[06:57] <atlef> AlexC_ : just an example
[06:58] <AlexC_> atlef: are there any others I could try?
[06:58] <leny> kane77: There wlan pointers in the document https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[06:58] <Crescendo_> I'm trying to connect to my VNC server, and I'm getting this: ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104) - how can I fix it? I've got the right port forwarded, and an nmap of the machine shows the port as listening
[06:58] <atlef> AlexC_ : one sec
[06:58] <AlexC_> ok
[06:58] <Samus_Aran> Crescendo_: can you connect to it from localhost ?
[06:58] <Crescendo_> Samus_Aran, I think F11 fullscreens most apps.
[06:58] <Crescendo_> Samus_Aran, I'm not sure, I'm sshing into it.
[06:59] <Samus_Aran> Crescendo_: and which VNC server are you using ?
[06:59] <WizCraker> i'm trying to compile something and it keeps giving me an error of no Terminal Library found:  You need to install a terminal library.  which terminal library do I install?
[06:59] <Crescendo_> Samus_Aran, whatever was in the repositories.  I'll have to check.
[06:59] <Samus_Aran> Crescendo_: if you're SSHing from a computer with X, then use ssh -X and then just do the command: vncviewer localhost:0
[07:00] <Samus_Aran> Crescendo_: for example there is x11vnc which uses the real VNC server, TightVNC that offers better compression, and that standard AT&T VNC server which is pretty basic
[07:00] <Samus_Aran> er, real X11 server
[07:00] <CarlFK> what do I apt-get install to get http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/python/python2.5  ?
[07:00] <Samus_Aran> (like the Win32 version of VNC)
[07:01] <Samus_Aran> CarlFK: are you on Edgy ?
[07:01] <Crescendo_> Samus_Aran, vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[07:01] <Crescendo_> Unable to connect to VNC server
[07:01] <CarlFK> Samus_Aran: yes
[07:01] <neruatix> is aptitude the new loud?
[07:01] <Samus_Aran> CarlFK: then it should just be: apt-get install python
[07:01] <Samus_Aran> neruatix: the new loud ?
[07:01] <Samus_Aran> though I find the interface has gotten worse over time
[07:01] <OmegaMan03> Hi, Edgy Eft, I changed my samba -> open with to application/x-desktop and I can't seem to change it back.  I looked in /usr/share/applications and found nothing
[07:01] <CarlFK> Samus_Aran: that got me Python 2.4.3
[07:02] <neruatix> shall i use aptitude instead of apt-get ? *
[07:02] <AlexC_> atlef: I shall go try that, if it doesn't work I'll be back
[07:02] <Winball> So, I bought a new Ati gfx card. But ubuntu can't boot right because it's installed nvidia drivers. Now im on my old gfxcard. How can I remove the nvidia driver and install ati drivers?
[07:02] <M0E^lnx> is there a way to choose between grub and LILO during the edgy install?
[07:03] <atlef> AlexC_ : ok
[07:03] <Samus_Aran> CarlFK: perhaps "apt-get install python2.5", though I only see documentation for python2.5 on my apt-cache search
[07:03] <leny> CarlFK: Aptitude shows a package python2.5 try sudo apt-get install python2.5
[07:03] <dfwlinuxguy> winball...use synaptic to search for fglrx and install that
[07:03] <Samus_Aran> CarlFK: oh wait, it is there.  so just add the 2.5
[07:03] <dfwlinuxguy> then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:03] <Winball> dfwlinuxguy will that remove the nvidia drivers?
[07:03] <Dial_tone> you don't have to uninstall the nvidia driver
[07:04] <Dial_tone> just install ati and make sure that it's in xorg.conf
[07:04] <CarlFK> Winball: how did you install the nvidia driver ?
[07:04] <dfwlinuxguy> choose fglrx instead of ati
[07:04] <Winball> I guess with automatix
[07:04] <CarlFK> E: Couldn't find package python2.5
[07:04] <CarlFK>  apt-cache search python2.5 = nothing
[07:04] <Samus_Aran> Crescendo_: well stop the VNC server and run it from an active SSH session so you can see the messages that appear as you connect, and as it starts up.  it is probably misconfigured
[07:04] <Winball> It seems like the xserver-xorg-video-ati package is installed
[07:04] <dfwlinuxguy> I just installed xgl and beryl...pretty cool effects
[07:05] <dfwlinuxguy> apt-cache search python
[07:05] <sparklehistory> !register
[07:05] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:05] <OmegaMan03> Anyone know where else to look to change default applications besides /usr/share/applications?
[07:05] <r3x> r3x>	someone help me outhere.i've seen this font before* can someone tell me whats the font or how'z it applyied????????
[07:05] <r3x> 	<r3x>	http://rex.nonlogic.org/tmp/topo_noticias_.gif
[07:05] <r3x> 	<r3x>	sure u've seen it too..on w3c etc..those small icons
[07:05] <CarlFK> dfwlinuxguy: 965 hits.  want me to past them here? :)
[07:05] <higir> what is the best download manager for ubuntu?
[07:05] <Crescendo_> Samus_Aran, on Fedora that's "service vncserver stop" - how is it done on Ubuntu?
[07:05] <Dial_tone> define 'best'
[07:06] <Samus_Aran> dfwlinuxguy: do you happen to know if Beryl/XGL require Gnome to work, or if they can function in other standalone window managers like ICEWM ?
[07:06] <dfwlinuxguy> for python? no..please...one second
[07:06] <Samus_Aran> Crescendo_: that depends on how you started the service
[07:06] <higir> mmm.. a download manager in which i can download files faster, or the one that is more popular
[07:06] <CarlFK> apt-cache search python|grep 5 - no py2.5 ...
[07:06] <Samus_Aran> Crescendo_: the two ways I know to do vnc servers are through [x] inetd, or manually start it with "vncserver"
[07:06] <OmegaMan03> Try /etc/init.d/vncserver stop
[07:06] <Samus_Aran> CarlFK: apt-get update
[07:06] <dfwlinuxguy> http://ubuntufreak.blogspot.com/ has some good info on setting it up...should work with others besides gnome
[07:07] <Dial_tone> gwget
[07:07] <higir> pok thanks
[07:07] <M0E^lnx> Samus_Aran, Beryl requires a desktop manager... (KDE, GNome, Xfce) it doesn't work with window manages (windowmaker, E17, *box)
[07:07] <Vixus> Hey there, what do I do if I want to reset my password without having to login to Ubuntu?
[07:07] <Samus_Aran> M0E^lnx: ah, darn.  not use to me then =/
[07:07] <nn> Vixus: grub or lilo?
[07:07] <Vixus> grub
[07:08] <M0E^lnx> can I install Lilo though?
[07:08] <snype> !python
[07:08] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[07:08] <snype> !page
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about page - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <M0E^lnx> where are the grub settings stored at?
[07:08] <dfwlinuxguy> apt-get install python2.5 should work
[07:08] <Vixus> nn: ?
[07:08] <sharperguy> !C++
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about C++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <Samus_Aran> Vixus: you could try passing the kernel the "boot=/sbin/passwd username" parameter, or boot using the LiveCD and run the command: sudo passwd username
[07:08] <adaptr> M0E^lnx: /boot/grub/grub.conf
[07:08] <Dial_tone> M0E^lnx, menu.lst
[07:09] <CarlFK> dfwlinuxguy: I am with you on the should.  but so far it isn't for me.  did it work for you?
[07:09] <Vixus> Hmm, last time I had managed to enter a text mode environment by changing some boot options
[07:09] <Vixus> then I mounted the filesystem...
[07:09] <M0E^lnx> thanks adaptr
[07:09] <CarlFK> dfwlinuxguy: does apt-cache search python2.5 'work' for you?
[07:09] <leny> !python2.5
[07:09] <ubotu> python2.5: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3164 kB, installed size 11744 kB
[07:09] <Samus_Aran> M0E^lnx: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:09] <Vixus> Well, how do I boot into textmode?
[07:09] <biotrox> need to get some sleep
[07:10] <pos69sum> are you able to post to ubuntu-users from gmail?  my mails aren't going thru
[07:10] <biotrox> c u guys
[07:10] <dfwlinuxguy> carlfk yes it does
[07:10] <M0E^lnx> do I need to run anything after modifiying grub.conf? like in lilo you have to run lilo?
[07:10] <pos69sum> i've tried sending mail from gmail twice
[07:10] <Vixus> no
[07:10] <pos69sum> no?
[07:10] <dfwlinuxguy> carlfk...you might need to modify your sources
[07:10] <Samus_Aran> LILO uses /etc/lilo.conf, GRUB uses /boot/grub/menu.lst, though GRUB's can be renamed any way you like
[07:10] <ismail> what does that mean
[07:10] <Vixus> How do I boot into textmode via grub??
[07:10] <ismail> sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[07:10] <nuki> why does my computer go to dos when i try to boot from live cd?
[07:10] <CarlFK> oh crap... dapper - I was sshed to my laptop....
[07:10] <Vixus> pos69sum: not you
[07:11] <M0E^lnx> but how do I make the new changes take effect?
[07:11] <CarlFK> sorry...
[07:11] <Crescendo_> Alright, fixed - now why isn't my password working?
[07:11] <adaptr> Vixus: edit the ubuntu startup menu while it boots and enter "single" at the end of the kernel= line to boot into single user mode - no password needed either
[07:11] <Dial_tone> you don't use grub to determine the runlevel
[07:11] <dfwlinuxguy> that would explain it
[07:11] <Samus_Aran> Vixus: pass the kernel the parameter "3" to boot into multiuser textmode, or "1" to boot into single user mode
[07:11] <pos69sum> can you email ubuntu-users from gmail?  i've sent two emails and they aren't going through
[07:11] <Vixus> adaptr: thanks.
[07:11] <nuki> can some one tell why does my computer go to dos when i try to boot from live cd?
[07:11] <nuki> please
[07:11] <OmegaMan03> Anyone know where else to look to change default applications besides /usr/share/applications?
[07:11] <CarlFK> nuki: define "go to dos"
[07:12] <adaptr> nuki: because you have DOS installed ?
[07:12] <Dial_tone> because your cd isn't bootable?
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> pos69sum: When I send messages (not gmail though) they just don't come back to my address - they make it to the list though
[07:12] <Samus_Aran> nuki: the text mode isn't DOS.  most likely it either can't detect your video card, or you have more than one video card and it gets confused
[07:12] <pos69sum> ok
[07:12] <dfwlinuxguy> /etc/default ? exactly what are you trying to do?
[07:12] <sharpfurniture> hi, i'm having issues with firefox
[07:13] <Samus_Aran> I gotta go get work done.  g'day all
[07:13] <nuki> my cd is bootable, and it just says that cd detected, and loads for a while, then goes to dos, to drive A:
[07:13] <sharpfurniture> namely i can't change any settings
[07:13] <sharpfurniture> on the bottom it says "#BrandDTD;"
[07:13] <sharpfurniture> or something
[07:13] <OmegaMan03> dfwlinuxguy: changed the default app for .smb shares somehow and now I can't open them
[07:13] <sharpfurniture> "%brandDTD;"
[07:13] <sharpfurniture> no clue what that means
[07:14] <dfwlinuxguy> can you right click on the share and choose open with?
[07:14] <sharpfurniture> plus i can't go to SSL sites
[07:14] <OmegaMan03> I used to be able. I selected open with file browser.. and now they won't open
[07:15] <nuki> my cd is bootable, and it just says that cd detected, and loads for a while, then goes to dos, to drive A: why?
[07:15] <nuki> my first time using linux
[07:15] <sharpfurniture> nuki, this is #ubuntu
[07:15] <sharpfurniture> not windows
[07:15] <sharpfurniture> nuki, there is not DOS in linux
[07:15] <sharpfurniture> nor is there drive A:
[07:15] <nuki> well it just goes to mr-dos or something. not ms-dos though
[07:15] <GeneralZarkawi> nuki, impossible, there is no drive A in ubuntu
[07:15] <ismail> is there a way to integrate java in the os
[07:15] <OmegaMan03> now I can't do that... they are all Type: desktop configuration file and mime type application/x-desktop which I can't find either in /usr/share/applications
[07:16] <GeneralZarkawi> nuki, impossible
[07:16] <ismail> sothat it runs automatically
[07:16] <nuki> it doesn't even load ubuntu
[07:16] <nuki> it just stays in the boot screen
[07:16] <nuki> process
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> don't feed trolls please
[07:16] <sharpfurniture> fyrestrtr, he's not trolling
[07:16] <GeneralZarkawi> nuki, is nuki a troll?
[07:16] <nuki> no, i'm a noob with ubuntu
[07:16] <M0E^lnx> what's a troll?
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> nuki: where did you get the cd?
[07:17] <dfwlinuxguy> mine is a little flaky as well...I have to hit reload a few times until it replaces the blank icon with one that looks like a computer
[07:17] <GeneralZarkawi> M0E^lnx, nuki is a troll
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> !java | ismail
[07:17] <ubotu> ismail: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:18] <sharpfurniture> so he is a troll
[07:18] <sharpfurniture> wow
[07:18] <sharpfurniture> that's sad
[07:18] <M0E^lnx> ahh
[07:18] <M0E^lnx> hehe
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> my troll radar is extra sharp today :)
[07:18] <sharpfurniture> M0E^lnx, a troll is someone who intentionally pisses people off
[07:18] <M0E^lnx> yeah... just read the wiki
[07:18] <sharpfurniture> M0E^lnx, (on IRC)
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> lol there is a wiki entry for troll?
[07:18] <M0E^lnx> yup
[07:19] <sharpfurniture> fyrestrtr, that's become expected
[07:19] <GeneralZarkawi> fyrestrtr, sure
[07:19] <M0E^lnx> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
[07:19] <GeneralZarkawi> that's right
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> oh that wiki, I thought you mean the ubuntu wiki
[07:19] <M0E^lnx> no...
[07:19] <blackflare> how do I log in as root ? :/
[07:20] <blackflare> it wont let me with change users
[07:20] <M0E^lnx> you don't blackflare
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> !root | blackflare
[07:20] <ubotu> blackflare: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:20] <blackflare> ok...
[07:20] <blackflare> so how do I change permission on a folder that says only root can?
[07:20] <blackflare> I have to use the terminal?
[07:20] <Drogin> hey people
[07:20] <snype> what is a simple GUI programming language in linux--- similar to visual basic in W32 worlds
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> !sude | blackflare
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sude - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <Drogin> Any of you would'nt happen to know a little something about networking and routers?
[07:20] <Journeyman> ...
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> !sudo | blackflare
[07:21] <ubotu> blackflare: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> oops
[07:21] <dfwlinuxguy> are you talking about a language or an IDE?
[07:21] <blackflare> yes I saw that tony
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> Drogin: Can you be more specific?
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> blackflare: What folder do you need to mess with and why, btw?
[07:21] <LjL> blackflare: first thing, are you absolutely sure you want to change those permissions?
[07:21] <blackflare> whats the command to change folder priveledges? I want to extract a file in /usr/src/
[07:21] <snype> well IDE
[07:21] <\pub\bash0r> snype: depends on the language you want ;)
[07:22] <blackflare> Im following a guide for compiling source, and it said to extract the tar there
[07:22] <snype> right then both hah
[07:22] <LjL> blackflare: /usr/src should remain rootland. don't change the permissions. use sudo instead.
[07:22] <\pub\bash0r> snype: FreePascal/Lazarus is nice
[07:22] <blackflare> ok... so how do I do that :x
[07:22] <snype> okay thanks
[07:22] <snype> shit i gotta run
[07:22] <fyrestrtr> snype: you can use monodevelop -- its quite good.
[07:22] <blackflare> I use sudo when im untarring?
[07:22] <sharpfurniture> who the hell would use C#?
[07:22] <fyrestrtr> blackflare: yes
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> blackflare: correct
[07:22] <blackflare> ah
[07:22] <Journeyman> blackflare, you don't have to
[07:22] <fyrestrtr> sharpfurniture: plenty of highly paid programmers.
[07:23] <blackflare> darn ok, how do I do that in the terminal ? Ive been right clicking and doing extract
[07:23] <sharpfurniture> fyrestrtr, it's a trashlet
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> blackflare: but I'm curious, what are you doing that requires messing with /usr/src ?
[07:23] <dfwlinuxguy> eclipse is a great IDE for linux
[07:23] <Journeyman> oh /usr/src
[07:23] <Journeyman> hmm
[07:23] <blackflare> [13:21]  <blackflare> Im following a guide for compiling source, and it said to extract the tar there
[07:23] <dfwlinuxguy> it has plugins for just about any language
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> eclipse, komodo (non-free), monodevelop, gazpacho, idle, etc.
[07:23] <DShepherd> can anyone install gnomesword on ubuntu edgy?  I get some dependeny error
[07:23] <Journeyman> blackflare, you can't put it anywhere really, that is just a nice place to put your src files
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> blackflare: what guide?
[07:23] <blackflare> ohh
[07:24] <Journeyman> i normally extract them in my home file then delete it when I am done
[07:24] <blackflare> http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#source
[07:24] <dfwlinuxguy> omegaman03...check in ~/.gconf/ directory for that setting
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> blackflare: no no no
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> !kernel | blackflare
[07:24] <ubotu> blackflare: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:24] <blackflare> huh?
[07:24] <nuki> ok i found out the real problem
[07:24] <blackflare> Im trying to compile a driver for my webcam
[07:24] <Journeyman> if he wants to compile his own kernel let him
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> blackflare: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild to find out how to *properly* get the source.
[07:24] <dfwlinuxguy> http://www.eclipse.org/
[07:25] <nuki> it loads caledra dr-dos, not ubuntu. why? it's an official cd
[07:25] <GeneralZarkawi> there is nothing wrong in compiling a custom kernel
[07:25] <Journeyman> fyrestrtr, linux is linux he can use any instructions to do it "properly"
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> there is the wrong way, the non-ubuntu way, and then the ubuntu way. Only one is guaranteed to work.
[07:25] <Journeyman> you don't have to follow the ubuntu guide
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> Journeyman: you'd think ;)
[07:25] <Journeyman> fyrestrtr, that is so much BS
[07:25] <GeneralZarkawi> fyrestrtr, what?
[07:25] <blackflare> Im just trying to do whatever is simplest to get my webcam working
[07:25] <GeneralZarkawi> fyrestrtr, there is nothing wrong in compiling the kernel following the instructions found in its README file
[07:25] <blackflare> I found a driver that says it will work, but its just source
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> Journeyman: but since he is (clearly) a newbie -- then its advisable to go with a proper ubuntu-guide.
[07:26] <Journeyman> sure it probably is better
[07:26] <Journeyman> and easier
[07:26] <Journeyman> but don't say that he can't do it
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> blackflare: are you sure its not available in the repos? Check !webcam
[07:26] <Journeyman> it would be fine to use any instructions
[07:26] <blackflare> I checked with synaptic and it only has source files...
[07:26] <nuki> please why does my computer load caledra dr-dos, not ubuntu. why? it's an official cd
[07:26] <niekie> !webcam
[07:26] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> Journeyman: I'm just helping him out with the recommended ubuntu way, as this is an official support channel for ubuntu -- not general linux support (for that I join #linuxhelp)
[07:26] <niekie> Was interested in that too, heh.
[07:26] <Vixus> It didn't work, it still booted into GDM... I know what the problem is now. There's no output to the monitor but the sytem works as normal. I could login graphically even if i coldn't see anything.   I get some dependeny error
[07:28] <nuki> well i've got the iso too
[07:28] <BenFairlesss> fyrestrtr: Will it just use the same drivers as for Windoze?
[07:28] <OmegaMan03> Vixes: vesa should work for every graphics card
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> BenFairlesss: no, what video card do you have? Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[07:29] <\pub\bash0r> Vixus: you just have to specify the amount of video memory
[07:29] <nuki> ok i'll go try. sorry and thanks
[07:29] <Vixus> OmegaMan03: I can't *access* the system!!!
[07:29] <Vixus> \pub\bash0r: Ditto
[07:29] <blackflare> whats the terminal command to open/edit a list file?
[07:29] <LjL> blackflare: what's a list file?
[07:29] <\pub\bash0r> Vixus: not even the console?
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> blackflare: list file? There are plenty of editors -- like vi and pico
[07:30] <blackflare> sources.list
[07:30] <BenFairlesss> fyrestrtr: Well it's a laptop actually. I'm guessing it's just the built in graphics thingy (I'm a n00b)
[07:30] <Vixus> \pub\bash0r: No, because I can't even get into textmode
[07:30] <OmegaMan03> Vixus: There should be a recovery text mode option, ctrl-alt-f1 or something after you get to login window
[07:30] <blackflare> I want to be able to save it so I have to use sudo to open it
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> blackflare: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:30] <Vixus> BenFairlesss: No! LOOKOUT!
[07:30] <blackflare> thanks
[07:30] <Vixus> :D
[07:30] <LjL> !username
[07:30] <ubotu> Please prefix what you're saying with a name to avoid confusion. See !tab
[07:30] <\pub\bash0r> Vixus: did you try to add the runlevel 3 to the boot line?
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> BenFairlesss: the first thing you should do is check the supported laptop guide :) maybe someone has already tested it?
[07:30] <Vixus> OmegaMan03: When I try that, there's  bright flash of light
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> !bugs | Drogin
[07:31] <ubotu> Drogin: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:31] <M0E^lnx> how do I specify which OS should boot by default in grub?
[07:31] <Vixus> \pub\bash0r: Ah... runlevel
[07:31] <\pub\bash0r> Vixus: then boot without usplash
[07:31] <Vixus> \pub\bash0r: no one told me that...
[07:31] <\pub\bash0r> they told you ;)
[07:31] <BenFairlesss> Is that just on the Ubuntu support site?
[07:31] <\pub\bash0r> just add "3" to the kernel options
[07:31] <citriz> anyone know how to turn off an ipods auto launch of rhythmbox?
[07:31] <Vixus> no someone said 3.
[07:31] <\pub\bash0r> und remove "splash"
[07:31] <Vixus> thanks
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> M0E^lnx: there is a 'default' line, the number after that is the default loaded os.
[07:31] <Vixus> brb
[07:31] <\pub\bash0r> then it should work
[07:31] <Vixus> ok
[07:31] <M0E^lnx> but my OS's are not numbered in menu.ls
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> M0E^lnx: it starts with 0, not 1.
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> M0E^lnx: the first entry is 0, the second entry is 1, etc.
[07:32] <OmegaMan03> Thanks for the help guys
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> M0E^lnx: each 'title' line is considered an entry. The first title line is entry number 0 -- does that make sense?
[07:33] <T2T> Does some one no how to mount a ntfs or have a guide or something
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs | T2T
[07:33] <ubotu> T2T: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:34] <T2T> thanks a give it a try :)
[07:34] <ulysseslh> whois ubotu
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu
[07:34] <M0E^lnx> thanks fyrestrtr
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu | ulysseslh
[07:35] <ubotu> ulysseslh: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:35] <M0E^lnx> can someone look here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy and see if that howto is really accurate?
[07:35] <aeromix> what is /dev/zero good for?
[07:35] <M0E^lnx> It's taking awfully long to install that ndiswrapper
[07:35] <Journeyman> aeromix, making zeros
[07:35] <viller> ls
[07:35] <viller> ls
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> M0E^lnx: there is an entry at the official ubuntu wiki for it (although I have never had the need for it). Might be worth a look for reference.
[07:36] <viller> how can I start mysql?
[07:36] <Moosejaw> hey alll...any of you guys play online poker in ubuntu?
[07:36] <aeromix> Journeyman: ?
[07:36] <bitmvnch> howdy all, i've just done a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy on a server, and an associate says that a machine he did that on failed to boot.  i wonder if anyone else has experienced something similar, or had success recently.
[07:36] <baastrup> is the any easy way to try a newer kernel?
[07:36] <citriz> is anyone willing to help me with an ipod problem under linux?
[07:36] <pike_> M0E^lnx: btw to autoboot just once to a different os just sudo grub-set-default 1  or whatever
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> baastrup: you could compile it manually.
[07:37] <M0E^lnx> well, I want to have a defined default OS to boot after 10 seconds every time
[07:37] <atlef> Moosejaw : yes, expekt in vmware
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> M0E^lnx: you'd need to change /boot/grub/menu.lst and the default line for that.
[07:38] <flossgeek> hi the page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnDapper for installing aiglx on dapper has a url which is dead being http://ubuntu.compiz.net/. Is there any other way i can do this?
[07:39] <rajiv_nair> wat xactly is the difference between AIGLX and XGL??
[07:39] <flossgeek> rajiv_nair different techs that do similiar jobs
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> rajiv_nair: one is build in, the other is another X server on top of xorg. Xorg 7.1 comes with AIGLX. XGL has better support for ATI.
[07:40] <id10t> anyone able to help with sed?  i need to replace ..'s in a file name with .0 ...
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> flossgeek: there is a guide on compiz.net forums, just have a browse there.
[07:40] <rajiv_nair> ohhk
[07:41] <LjL> id10t: i.e. two periods -> one period followed by a zero?
[07:41] <M0E^lnx> dang this sux
[07:41] <flossgeek> rajiv_nair http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx#head-fd52c96a20634fde25954bbf95a286c823a10742 link telss u in detail of differences
[07:41] <LjL> id10t: "s/\.\./\.0/g"
[07:41] <rajiv_nair> thnx
[07:41] <id10t> LjL, yup. lots of files...
[07:41] <flossgeek> fyrestrtr: cheers
[07:41] <M0E^lnx> I need a good howto...
[07:41] <id10t> ljl -  echo access_log.Mon.Sep..4.04\:52\:01.EDT.2006.gz | sed s/\.\./\.0/g
[07:41] <id10t> .<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.0
[07:42] <id10t> ljl - i think its 'cause the . can be used in a regex...
[07:42] <flossgeek> http://www.compiz.net is dead
[07:42] <LjL> id10t: uh... ok. doesn't say much to me - what are the original file contents?
[07:42] <flossgeek> or the server is down
[07:42] <_pwf_> hi
[07:42] <LjL> id10t: no, i escaped it
[07:42] <viller> how can I start mysql?
[07:43] <id10t> ljl - got it. thought the quotes you had up there ^^ were for the actual command, not to be included in the sed command
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> id10t: sed -e 's/\.\./\.0/g'
[07:43] <displague> has anyone tried the new php5.2 package in feisty?
[07:43] <id10t> ljl thanks!
[07:43] <blackflare> !webcam
[07:43] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:43] <id10t> fyrestrtr, thanks...
[07:43] <displague> it prevents apache from loading even .html files
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> viller: /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[07:43] <displague> #0  0xb7cc5ac4 in zend_hash_internal_pointer_reset_ex () from /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> displague: #ubuntu+1 is a good place for fiesty discussions about fiesty.
[07:44] <_pwf_> everytime that i try to add my mp3 collection to amarok or rythmbox the whole xorg crashes and hangs, i have to get to a manual console and kill the process, sometimes even those consoles hang, the mp3 collection is mounted via smb and is big, around 300gb, any reason for that?
[07:44] <viller> fyrestrtr: I don't have a script in init.d anymore. I removed it because I didn't want mysql starting every time I start my computer
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> viller: oh geez :|
[07:44] <viller> ?
[07:44] <viller> what geez
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> viller: that's not how you do that. Next time, read the man for update-rc.d or use bum
[07:44] <blackflare> hey is there a simple way to setup some programs to run every time? Like getting it to do synergyc <IP_ADDRESS>    on startup?
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> viller: for now, the easiest way would be to re-install it.
[07:45] <_pwf_> !mp3 | _pwf_
[07:45] <ubotu> _pwf_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> blackflare: depends on when you want it to start. If when you login to gnome, then just add it to the startup program list for the session.
[07:45] <blackflare> ah ok
[07:45] <Trixsey> why does it take so much time packing programs for ubuntu? like.. repositories
[07:45] <viller> fyrestrtr: I didn't remove the file directly. I used that update-rc.d. Now the cli says /etc/init.d/mysqld doesn't exist
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> blackflare: system > preferences > session
[07:45] <Stormx2> Hey all
[07:45] <Trixsey> are weeks after real releases
[07:45] <Trixsey> even big releases
[07:46] <Stormx2> Trixsey: Um?
[07:46] <atlef> M0E^lnx : have you looked here http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> viller: its probably /etc/init.d/mysql
[07:46] <Trixsey> GAIM for isntance
[07:46] <Stormx2> Trixsey: Programs don't get released for ubuntu after releases. Not official ones.
[07:46] <Trixsey> I got 2.0.0b3.1
[07:46] <Stormx2> Trixsey: Its called feature freeze.
[07:46] <Trixsey> there is 2.0.0b5
[07:46] <Trixsey> ok?
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> !backports | Trixsey
[07:46] <ubotu> Trixsey: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[07:46] <Stormx2> Trixsey: So why don't you take it on yourself to install beta 5? I did...
[07:47] <M0E^lnx> atlef: I need a howto for the ndiswrapper setup
[07:47] <M0E^lnx> I have a broadcomm chip
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> M0E^lnx: the one at the ubuntu wiki didn't work?
[07:47] <atlef> M0E^lnx : sorry
[07:47] <M0E^lnx> the automated setup is not doing
[07:47] <blackflare> aw :/ easycam didnt work
[07:47] <M0E^lnx> fyrestrtr: the automated setup in the wiki didn't
[07:47] <Trixsey> what is a feature freeze? :/
[07:47] <blackflare> still wont detect my camera, even though it says its compatible
[07:47] <_pwf_> !ubotu | _pwf_
[07:47] <ubotu> _pwf_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> Trixsey: means versions of programs are frozen in order to provide better support.
[07:48] <M0E^lnx> I'm looking here
[07:48] <M0E^lnx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102