[08:57] <o2oo> hi, who knows ubuntu linux programming?
[08:57] <ddavids> well_laid_lawn; and when i find them?
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> ddavids:  5.6Gb isn't really large enough these days for the os
[08:57] <x-Na> Indeed
[08:57] <crazy2k_> There's something I'm evidently not understanding. I have two processes. One is a real-time process with 99 priority using SCHED_FIFO policy (it's a while(1)). The other is a normal process. For some reason, when I run both the normal proces can print, so it's executing. Why?
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> ddavids:  you could remove them if they're the old ones
[08:59] <ddavids> isn't there a way to increase the size?
[09:00] <bgo> hi
[09:00] <ddavids> i just did autoclean but im not sure that did any magic
[09:00] <zfe> hello
[09:00] <sacarlson> o2oo: I know ruby, perl, some C, bash. very little java,  what is it you are looking for?
[09:00] <pinPoint> im curious, can a live cd run on a computer without a hard disk?
[09:00] <zfe> can anybody tell me how to remove the interface of netbook remix
[09:00] <well_laid_lawn> ddavids:  you could try to resize it from the live cd
[09:00] <zfe> and use a normal desktop?
[09:01] <ddavids> well_laid_lawn; im using a netbook, so its live usb
[09:01] <o2oo> anybody know how to get a sorted list of files in a directory?
[09:01] <well_laid_lawn> pinPoint:  yep - just nothing you do will be saved between reboots
[09:01] <o2oo> anybody know how to get a sorted list of files in a directory? (using linux C API)
[09:01] <sacarlson> o2oo: sorted by time size....?
[09:01] <pinPoint> well_laid_lawn: but you can save a file on the desktop so you can attach it to email?
[09:01] <well_laid_lawn> ddavids:  it will have the partitioner in the menu
[09:02] <sacarlson> o2oo: try man ls
[09:02] <well_laid_lawn> pinPoint:  I would think so
[09:02] <dougb_freebsd> o2oo: also, man 2 stat
[09:02] <pinPoint> well_laid_lawn: nice
[09:03]  * dougb_freebsd waves
[09:03] <o2oo> hi, I mean using linux C programming, not shell command
[09:03] <o2oo> sacarlson, , I mean using linux C programming, not shell command
[09:03] <sacarlson> o2oo: if you want to look at recusive dirs also man find
[09:03] <sacarlson> o2oo: those programs are writen in C so you can get the source and look at them
[09:04] <dougb_freebsd> o2oo: read that man page, and do your own homework :)
[09:04] <o2oo> sacarlson, I want to know which C api could get files in sorted size or filename
[09:04] <o2oo> I want to know which C api could get files in sorted size or filename
[09:04] <sacarlson> o2oo: the ls program as stated
[09:04] <itsux2bu> i just figured how to have combine both ubuntu server and desktop on the same computer
[09:04] <bgo> guys can you recommend me how to learn sys programming
[09:05] <o2oo> "ls" is a shell command, not a C api
[09:06] <sacarlson> o2oo: ls -S for size sort ls -t for time sort  just ls for alpa sort
[09:06] <well_laid_lawn> o2oo:  they are recommending you read the source files for ls so you can learn what you want - do that or /j #programming pls
[09:06] <sacarlson> o2oo: no it's write in C
[09:06] <itsux2bu> o2oo, you can sort a file list in whatever order you want without having to write programs in C
[09:07] <mujtaba_> any one here who can help me out ?
[09:07] <sacarlson> o2oo: C programs can be ran from the shell
[09:07] <wele> what the best player for vedio?
[09:07] <o2oo> itsux2bu,  how?
[09:07] <wizzle> how to make my partition automaticly mounting in start up?
[09:07] <mujtaba_> guys?!
[09:07] <mujtaba_> alive?
[09:07] <itsux2bu> see what sacarlson said above
[09:08] <o2oo> sacarlson, I would read the source code of "ls" command later
[09:08] <well_laid_lawn> !fstab | wizzle
[09:08] <sacarlson> o2oo:  sure you can write them in ruby or java or anything else but the stadard ls program the we run is writen in C
[09:08] <itsux2bu> o2oo,  also try   man ls
[09:08] <zfe> can anybody tell me how to remove the interface of netbook remix and use a normal desktop?
[09:08] <marsfligth> is it possible to insert more than one source path using 'rsync'?
[09:09] <o2oo> hmmmmm, thanks !!
[09:09] <well_laid_lawn> zfe:  you can install ubuntu-desktop and select it at login
[09:09] <o2oo> thank all of you.
[09:09] <zfe> thanks well_laid_lawn
[09:09] <daffy> thats what im workig on, i have not found a way to do so. there use to be a settings but i cant find it
[09:10] <itsux2bu> zfe, you might want tp try running..   tasksel
[09:10] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  why do you keep suggesting that to newbies?
[09:10] <itsux2bu> zfe,  it gives you a list of what is installed and what you can install
[09:11] <abountu1> where does the PATH get set in ubuntu?
[09:11] <itsux2bu> i have used it and its eqasy to use
[09:11] <zfe> i think i'm fine
[09:11] <itsux2bu> *easy
[09:11] <zfe> with apt-get
[09:11] <zfe> thanks
[09:13] <itsux2bu> everytime i try to use apt-get i have to find the exact name of the app i want to install..  like.. apache2.. not just apache.. mysql5.. not just mysql... tasksel.. it says  LAMP and it knows the details of that..
[09:13] <wele> is there any program like frontpage to edit website and diesgn?
[09:14] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  I use   apt-cache search   for that
[09:14] <Belgicano> wele: just editing and seeing the result?
[09:14] <wele> yes
[09:15] <itsux2bu> well_laid_lawn, good point.. as a newbie i didn't know that existed.. but with tasksel i didn't need it..
[09:15] <Belgicano> wele: which languages? just html?
[09:15] <wele> yes
[09:15] <wele> html and php
[09:15] <Belgicano> do you know html or dou you want to have the program writing the code for you?
[09:16] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  there's   apt-cache policy   if you need to know about versions or if somethings installed
[09:16] <itsux2bu> wele, you heard of  LAMP  ?
[09:16] <Belgicano> wele, if you want php, you'll need a full environment, LAMP (linux-apache-mysql-php)
[09:16] <well_laid_lawn> !lamp
[09:16] <wele> i know html but if there a program help me to writing will be better
[09:17] <Belgicano> wele: for php you'll be on your own, i don't think there is any program that will write it for you...
[09:18] <wele> itsux2bu: am new in linux
[09:18] <jca1981> hi, can i get help here with some apt-get problems
[09:18] <well_laid_lawn> sure
[09:18] <wele> Belgicano: ok how about the html
[09:18] <itsux2bu> wele, i'm a little new myself..
[09:18] <thulstrup> wele: if you are looking for editors - you can consider eclipse or netbeans - there are many others of course
[09:19] <wele> editors and viewers for html
[09:19] <well_laid_lawn> firefox is good for viewing html...
[09:19] <sacarlson> wele: with openoffice writer you can export in html but it never seems to come out the same as I see it in the writer.
[09:20] <bint> so i instalelled a gui (ubuntu-desktop) on my server but i somehow what to deinstall it again
[09:20] <bint> is this possible?
[09:20] <bint> if its really complicated i could just reinstall ubuntu-server i dont really care
[09:20] <bint> but since i wanna learn new stuff.. the correct way might be good to know
[09:21] <well_laid_lawn> bint:  it is a meta package so you can't uninstall all it brings in in one go atm
[09:21] <sacarlson> wele: you can edit a document jast as you would in word for windows with pics and links and export that into html to put in your appache2 page
[09:21] <KE1HA> bint:  just do in reverse: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <well_laid_lawn> !info ubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <bint> ok
[09:21] <bazhang> !purekde | bint this might do it (dont install kubuntu-desktop though)
[09:22] <bint> i kinda found interesting stuff
[09:22] <bazhang> ubuntu-desktop itself is a metapackage so removing it will do nothing
[09:22] <Belgicano> wele: kompozer could suit you...
[09:22] <bint> well i'll just reinstall ubuntu-server so its proper again
[09:23] <bazhang> bint, no need, just follow that guide
[09:23] <KE1HA> bazhang:  I need to check on that one.
[09:23] <iseepackets1> hello
[09:23] <wele> kompozer ist editor and veiwer in the same time
[09:23] <thulstrup> !kompozer | wele
[09:23] <iseepackets1> anyone in computer repair?
[09:23] <bint> but let me explain what i want to do: i want to have a proper LAMP server to host some pretty primitive websites, i wanna host an FTPD and i want to be able to have a graphical interface to connect to the server (GUI)
[09:24] <bint> i foud a link for ssh x-forwarding
[09:24] <bazhang> iseepackets1, try ##hardware
[09:24] <bint> that seems to be pretty interesting for me
[09:24] <iseepackets1> k thnxx
[09:24] <KE1HA> bazhang:  if I remove the desktop, then autoremove all the packages no longer required right
[09:24] <wele> thanks guys
[09:25] <bazhang> KE1HA, just removing the -desktop package will do nothing.
[09:25] <well_laid_lawn> the -desktop package is 60kB
[09:25] <bazhang> the pschocats link has it
[09:25] <bazhang> err psychocats
[09:26] <iseepackets1> how do it registrer my name
[09:26] <iseepackets1> ?
[09:26] <KE1HA> bazhang:  yet installing ubuntu-desktop installs all the pkg's
[09:26] <bazhang> !register | iseepackets1
[09:26] <bazhang> iseepackets1, /join #freenode for assistance
[09:26] <bazhang> KE1HA, /msg ubottu metapackage
[09:27] <KE1HA> bazhang:  Im gonna go mess with that, as somehting isn't right there
[09:27] <kazz_> Does anyone know where (what package) the virtio_net kernel modules are for ubuntu 10.04 server?  They don't seem to exist for kernel >= 2.6.32-22-server.
[09:27] <ddavids> pls i have a flash drive tht is not mounting but i can see it using lsusb, how can i repair it?
[09:27] <iseepackets1> !register
[09:28] <sanjoy> thanks
[09:29] <iseepackets> hmmm its still saying i need to egister
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> iseepackets:  they send an email as confirmation
[09:30] <vargas> hello, what's up everyone...
[09:30] <sinister-nation> hi everyone
[09:30] <sanjoy> cool
[09:30] <wele> how about visual studio compiler what program can be help
[09:30] <iseepackets> o ok thank you
[09:31] <itsux2bu> wele, i believe that is a windows program
[09:31] <wele> yes
[09:31] <sinister-nation> I have a question, I have ubuntu install well dual botting with windows 7. but i decided to use kubuntu instead. so how do i remove ubuntu from my system?
[09:31] <wele> there is no way to use it in ubuntu
[09:31] <itsux2bu> wele, you understand linux doesn't run windows programs
[09:32] <wele> yes
[09:32] <itsux2bu> wele, ubuntu is a linux opersating system..
[09:32] <wele> what can i use for c++ / c
[09:32] <CHAodzip> itsux2bu:may can use wine
[09:32] <itsux2bu> *operating
[09:32] <iseepackets> i didn't get a e-mail how can i get a resend?
[09:33] <well_laid_lawn> iseepackets:  check in the #freenode tab
[09:33] <Belgicano> Anyone familiar with ncmpcpp? I'd like all the colors to be the defaults, so I set [colors_enabled = "no"] in my .ncmpcpp/config, but the statusbar, header and progressbar (in short the 2 topmost lines and the 2 bottommost lines) keep appearing in cyan, any idea?
[09:33] <sed`> What's the official way to turn off services like sshd with Ubuntu 10.04's upstart system?
[09:33] <wizzle> how to make my partition icon disappear from desktop even when it active?
[09:33] <itsux2bu> CHAodzip, yea.. but thats mostly for advanced users.. he don't seem to be..
[09:34] <jrib> !icons | wizzle
[09:34] <sed`> wele: Eclipse (with CDT)
[09:34] <well_laid_lawn> sed`:  you can try   sudo service ssh stop
[09:34] <wizzle> jrib, thanks.
[09:35] <jrib> sed`: you mean forever?
[09:35] <sed`> jrib: yes. my solution so far was to rename /etc/init/ssh.conf to, for example, /etc/init/ssh.conf.disabled
[09:35] <wele> !Eclipse
[09:35] <sed`> i just want to start it manually when it's needed
[09:35] <sed`> which works fine the old-fashioned way, /etc/init.d/ssh {start|stop}, but only if upstart doesn't respawn it
[09:36] <iseepackets> ok im there now what lawwn :)
[09:36] <jca1981> im getting this on apt install "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.11) but 2.10.1-0ubuntu17 is to be installed"
[09:36] <sed`> wele: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-cc-developers/heliosr
[09:36] <jrib> sed`: that's one way, but then you can't use the nice "service" command and friends.  I prefer to just add "never" as a condition for the service to start.  Or, if you'll never use the service at all (i.e. you never want it to start manually), you can just uninstall itt
[09:36] <sed`> jrib: the condition is configured in /etc/init/*.conf, right? I'm not yet familiar with upstart very well.
[09:36] <well_laid_lawn> iseepackets:  one of the last messages there to you should be about the email being sent
[09:37] <jrib> sed`: right
[09:37] <sed`> thanks.
[09:37] <jrib> sed`: my gdm.conf: http://pastebin.com/f6dyjv5m
[09:37] <jrib> sed`: I haven't found anything more official than some mails on a mailing list though...
[09:38] <jrib> sinister-nation: you know you can easily install the kubuntu packages on ubuntu and then have the choice between gnome and kde at the login screen?
[09:38] <jrib> !kde | sinister-nation
[09:39] <sed`> jrib: that's good enough. what I think is not good is that Ubuntu has "rcconf" and "bum" in its repositores which don't play well with upstart at all. for example if you disable "ssh" in rcconf, it will still run.
[09:39] <jrib> sed`: keep an eye on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/94065 I suppose
[09:39] <sinister-nation> I would do that but I don't have the room to spare on my hdd for both
[09:39] <sed`> looks good, jrib
[09:40] <jrib> sinister-nation: really?  How much room do you have, it shouldn't occupy that much...
[09:40] <sed`> upstart and classical init.d tools like “rcconf” or “bum” should block each other. maybe i'll file a bug.
[09:42] <jrib> sed`: some packages still use the old init scripts though
[09:42] <sinister-nation> windows 7 consume majority of my hdd. I need to get use to using linux before I have a pure linux computer first. So right now ubuntu is on a 3GB partition
[09:43] <jrib> !purekde | sinister-nation
[09:43] <jca1981> can you help me? im getting this when i try to install virtualbox via apt get "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.11) but 2.10.1-0ubuntu17 is to be installed"
[09:43] <sinister-nation> k thanxs ubottu
[09:43] <jrib> jca1981: apt-cache policy virtualbox
[09:44] <jrib> jca1981: (or whatever the name is for the package you are attempting to install)
[09:44] <agus> hi
[09:44] <sinister-nation> k every have a nice night or nice morning whateever the case is for you. :)
[09:45] <agus> anyone can suggest me which player I should use
[09:45] <bazhang> !players > agus
[09:45] <jca1981> jrib, Candidate: 3.2.8-64453~Ubuntu~lucid
[09:45] <p0pc0rn> where do you set your dns servers in ubuntu
[09:45] <agus> anyone can suggest me which player I should use to play hd video
[09:45] <jrib> jca1981: please paste full output in a pastebin
[09:47] <agus> is there something left with library so I cannot see my video picture is not good
[09:49] <jca1981> jrib,i think i found the problem im still running older version of ubunto and trying to use newer package :)
[09:50] <jrib> jca1981: indeed
[09:50] <jca1981> jrib, im updating me dist to newest now :) thanks hehe
[09:50] <GuitarShredder> How to set permissions? numbers 775 or so os
[09:50] <GuitarShredder> so so
[09:51] <jrib> !permissions > GuitarShredder
[09:51] <GuitarShredder> ya
[09:53] <tensorpudding> is there any way to bring back empathy's contact list after it closes itself?
[09:53] <tensorpudding> for that matter, is there any way to quit empathy if you delete all its windows?
[09:53] <Belserusk> Hi. Is it possible to customise nautilus just like dragging icons in Firefox? I notice that nautilus has a lot of wasted space.
[09:54] <Fudge> hi when you need to install grub for a dual boot windows/ubuntu, which partition do you have to isntall it to. i do the grub, find /boot/grub/stage1 which it doe
[09:54] <GuitarShredder> Setting permissions is related to internet also? I mean, can internet users see my files if permission is given? like localhost.
[09:54] <jrib> GuitarShredder: not unless you install some service to let them
[09:54] <andreiutz> hello, where can I show my output errors ? I found out rafb.net is discontinued
[09:54] <jrib> !grub > Fudge
[09:55] <GuitarShredder> thanks
[09:55] <Fudge> thankyou for grub info
[09:55] <GuitarShredder> if a beginner sets permissions randomly and unknowingly, then is my computer on internet risk?
[09:56] <KE1HA> Fudge:  unless it's a non-standard install, typically Grub should be installed to the first device /dev/sda or /dev/hda
[09:56] <jrib> GuitarShredder: not unless you install some service to let them
[09:56] <jrib> GuitarShredder: though you'll probably end up breaking your system if you mess with permissions you don't understand
[09:56] <GuitarShredder> so, those services need to be downloaded??
[09:56] <jrib> GuitarShredder: typically you would install them through a package manager...
[09:57] <GuitarShredder> ok ok. So i will read first.. thanks
[09:58] <GuitarShredder> how to check PHP version?
[09:59] <jrib> GuitarShredder: apt-cache policy php5 ?  Or you can create some php page with that php command that gives all the info about your install
[09:59] <ikonia> GuitarShredder: phpinfo as a php function, or look in synaptic at th epackage version you installed
[10:00] <GuitarShredder> not   PHP -v  ??
[10:00] <ubudekstop> read on the docs that view.yml is deprecated in favor of using helpers directly in the template...does anybody knows why?
[10:02] <andreiutz> Hi, I need to install a Canon LBP2900 printer on my Ubuntu 10.04. I have the drivers but I get this error when I try to install them. What is the problem ? http://dpaste.com/234744/
[10:02] <ubudekstop> sorry wrong room
[10:04] <Joric> i dont get how to disable X, i've disabled gdm in sysv-rc-conf but it keeps starting!
[10:04] <Trerot> where do i change the time it takes for the "computer is locked" picture comes up?
[10:05] <iflema> !nox | Joric
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> !ping
[10:08] <itsux2bu> GuitarShredder, try this..    create a text file with     <?php phpinfo(); ?>    in it and call the file something like phpinfo.php  and put it in your /var/www folder..  load your browser and type..   localhost/phpinfo.php
[10:09] <botcity> i get "Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".RandR extension missing" when i type xrandr in the terminal yes this is a duel monitor problem, would any of you busy guy's shed some light on the problem?
[10:09] <Trerot> figued it out
[10:09] <Trerot> nvm =P
[10:12] <Timburr> how do i connect to shared folders in a Linux virtual machine in vbox ?
[10:12] <andreiutz> Hi, I need to install a Canon LBP2900 printer on my Ubuntu 10.04. I have the drivers but I get this error when I try to install them. http://dpaste.com/234744/
[10:12] <ikonia> Timburr: exactly the same as on a physical machine
[10:13] <Timburr> my host i running Win 7
[10:13] <Timburr> is*
[10:17] <itsux2bu> i'm desktop using gedit.. i just tried to save a text file in /var/www and said i don't have permission to save file there..  is this where i would use gksudo?   how can i do that without losing the file i created?
[10:17] <rich97> Hey, does anyone know of a way I can download old messages using evolution?
[10:18] <itsux2bu> *i'm in desktop..
[10:18] <Chipped_Cpu> whoa alot of ppl
[10:18] <ikonia> rich97: are they pop3 ?
[10:18] <rich97> yeah
[10:18] <Chipped_Cpu> what up guys
[10:18] <ikonia> rich97: then they are gone off the server once they are downloaded
[10:18] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  save the file in your home dir then use   sudo mv
[10:18] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu,  so your a "chipped chip" ?
[10:18] <rich97> ikonia: I selected leave messages on server though
[10:18] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: welcome to #ubuntu, this channel talks about ubuntu support issues only
[10:19] <ikonia> rich97: then just download them again
[10:19] <rich97> ikonia: Well, clicking send / recive does nothing does nothing.
[10:19] <arvind_khadri> Hi, which package provides check_nt ?
[10:20] <Chipped_Cpu> check this out...i got 10.04 working on a pentium 3 and 256 mb of ram
[10:20] <Chipped_Cpu> and it's still not too bad
[10:20] <Chipped_Cpu> no compiz
[10:20] <ikonia> rich97: then you need to talk to your mail host provider
[10:20] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: that is not suprising
[10:20] <jrib> Chipped_Cpu: buy some ram
[10:20] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, desktop?
[10:21] <Chipped_Cpu> i have 6 gigs in my desktop...i just found this laptop laying in my closet and wanted to try it
[10:21] <botcity> andreiutz: im no expert but it looks like your missing some cups files libcupsys2 have you read the read me file or the documentation on the site?
[10:21] <Chipped_Cpu> i think it belong to jesus...very old ibm thinkpad
[10:21] <arvind_khadri> check_nt is used to check the nagios clients, specifically windows
[10:22] <Chipped_Cpu> nagios is good
[10:22] <Chipped_Cpu> server monitoring
[10:22] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, is there a crank shaft sticking out the side?
[10:22] <Chipped_Cpu> yeah...how'd you know?
[10:23] <simion314> hi, i want to convert videos to 3gp, and the ffmpeg in the repos is striped of some codecs, googling i find many solutons, compiling from source, other application, what do you think is the simplest way to do it?
[10:23] <Chipped_Cpu> yeah
[10:23] <Chipped_Cpu> medibuntu?
[10:23] <andreiutz> botcity, it is installed
[10:24] <jrib> simion314: I think you just need to install the unstripped packages, no?
[10:24] <Chipped_Cpu> what's botcity?
[10:24] <botcity> it my name
[10:24] <Chipped_Cpu> oh
[10:24]  * Chipped_Cpu not paying attention
[10:24] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, you know of it? the alternative for check_nt, nagios ?
[10:24] <Chipped_Cpu> doesn't someother repo have it?
[10:25] <andreiutz> botcity, it says this: libcups2 is already the newest version
[10:25] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: what's the issue with the nagios client ?
[10:25] <Chipped_Cpu> maybe you need an older version
[10:26] <jrib> simion314: maybe now, they're called "-extra"
[10:26] <botcity> andreiutz well line 9 says  Package libcupsys2 is not installed.
[10:26] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, the server is not getting the correct information from the client. -l parameters are missing. but it is present
[10:26] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, i recently figured out how to use  tasksel  to create as combo  ubuntu  desktop / server..
[10:26] <Chipped_Cpu> well then install libcupsys2
[10:26] <Chipped_Cpu> it should be in the repo
[10:26] <Chipped_Cpu> sudo apt-get install libcupsys2
[10:27] <Chipped_Cpu> try that
[10:27] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: that's odd, not seen that
[10:28] <Chipped_Cpu> what's tasksel
[10:28] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, ohh, so do you know how do i use check-nt?
[10:28] <itsux2bu> i guess a command line utility that installs apps..
[10:29] <Chipped_Cpu> a cli to install apps.  yum/apt/pacman
[10:29] <ptptaylor> hey quick question
[10:30] <Chipped_Cpu> now tasksel
[10:30] <ptptaylor> how do i register my nick name?
[10:30] <ptptaylor> i'm lost...
[10:30] <jrib> !register | ptptaylor
[10:30] <ptptaylor> kk
[10:30] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, when i installed ubuntu server.. it showed a list of server apps to install.. without needing to know the exact name of the package..
[10:30] <Chipped_Cpu> ok
[10:30] <Chipped_Cpu> nice
[10:30] <jrib> Chipped_Cpu: except tasksel really works with apt...
[10:30] <Chipped_Cpu> gotcha
[10:31] <itsux2bu> apt-get?
[10:31] <simion314> jrib: aptitude search ffmpeg, i can't find any extra or unsuported version or plugins
[10:31] <Chipped_Cpu> that's why i love youtube and irc...i'm always learning about new linux stuff
[10:31] <itsux2bu> its a frontend to apt-get?
[10:31] <Chipped_Cpu> did you try medibuntu?????
[10:31] <Chipped_Cpu> kewl
[10:31] <itsux2bu> me? no..
[10:32] <well_laid_lawn> !who | Chipped_Cpu
[10:32] <jrib> simion314: I wouldn't expect you to... look for libavcodec for starters
[10:32] <Chipped_Cpu> no, the other guy looking for the ffmpeg plugins
[10:32] <Chipped_Cpu> thanks ubottu
[10:32] <jrib> itsux2bu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[10:32] <itsux2bu> i read it
[10:33] <itsux2bu> jrib
[10:33] <Chipped_Cpu> hey ubottu
[10:33] <well_laid_lawn> !bot
[10:33] <Chipped_Cpu> thought so
[10:33] <Chipped_Cpu> lol
[10:33] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[10:33] <well_laid_lawn> !lol | bugger me
[10:33] <itsux2bu> jrib, i used today to create a hybrid Ubuntu  Server / Desktop  system for myself
[10:34] <ikonia> well_laid_lawn: please control your language
[10:34] <itsux2bu> * used tasksel
[10:34] <Chipped_Cpu> keyboard yeehaa
[10:34] <well_laid_lawn> np :]
[10:35] <Chipped_Cpu> wow info bot your a nerd
[10:35] <Chipped_Cpu> no lol? seriously
[10:35] <Chipped_Cpu> l o l
[10:35] <itsux2bu> does desktop have a file manager?
[10:35] <Chipped_Cpu> ?
[10:35] <Chipped_Cpu> nautilus
[10:36] <ubuntu> hi
[10:36] <Chipped_Cpu> what up
[10:36] <ubuntu> good
[10:36] <ranjan> Hi all,
[10:36] <Chipped_Cpu> yeeha
[10:36] <ubuntu> where are you froms?
[10:36] <ranjan> does mono help spread virus as it is able to run exe files?
[10:36] <ikonia> ranjan: no
[10:36] <Chipped_Cpu> well my ip from the vpn i'm using is from minnesota
[10:36] <ikonia> ubuntu: chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is just for support issues please.
[10:37] <ranjan> ikonia, how is it different from wine?
[10:37] <Chipped_Cpu> :)
[10:37] <ptptaylor> \join #freenod
[10:37] <sed`> Chipped_Cpu: people rarely laugh out loud when they write "lol". LQTM is often more appropriate.
[10:37] <ptptaylor> \join freenode
[10:37] <Chipped_Cpu> winetricks
[10:37] <ptptaylor> \join #freenode
[10:37] <well_laid_lawn> ptptaylor:  use the /
[10:37] <ikonia> ranjan: ask the mono guys to explain, it's not really an ubuntu issue
[10:37] <Chipped_Cpu> forward slash
[10:37] <ptptaylor> ahh for goodness sake, so used to using the backslash!
[10:37] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[10:37] <Chipped_Cpu> yeah i see that
[10:37] <ubuntu> kto polak;d?
[10:38] <ranjan> ikonia, do you know about the fire raising against mono?
[10:38] <itsux2bu> can i use the desktop to move a file?  or do i just open a terminal window and use mv?
[10:38] <sed`> itsux2bu: if you're using Gnome, just drag & drop
[10:38] <ikonia> ranjan: I have no idea what your talking about, however again, this isn't an ubuntu issue
[10:38] <erUSUL> itsux2bu: drag and drop ?
[10:38] <Chipped_Cpu> what are you talking about itsux2bu?
[10:38] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  depends on the permissions needed
[10:38] <erUSUL> itsux2bu: cut and paste also works
[10:38] <ranjan> ikonia, then just shut your mouth,.
[10:39] <well_laid_lawn> don't poke the bear :]
[10:39] <itsux2bu> well, i don't hasve permission in the destination folder
[10:39] <itsux2bu> *have
[10:39] <Chipped_Cpu> sudo nautilus is what i think you want
[10:39] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: gksudo nautlius
[10:39] <Chipped_Cpu> su -c "nautilus"
[10:39] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  you can do   gksu nautilus   to use the gui or   sudo mv   your choice]
[10:39] <Chipped_Cpu> will work also
[10:40] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: no, thats no correct, you need to use gksudo
[10:40] <Chipped_Cpu> for what?
[10:40] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: sudo won't setup the graphical environment for graphical apps, so they will get written as "root" you should use gksudo for graphical apps
[10:40] <zatan> /home/masteris/Downloads/xchat-purple-status_1.0/xchat_purple_status.py
[10:40] <Chipped_Cpu> i use sudo nautilus all the time...and on fedora I use su -c "nautilus"
[10:40] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, gksudo is safer than sudo when using the desktop GUI
[10:40] <Chipped_Cpu> k good to know
[10:41] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: you're not using fedora here, the correct option is gksudo for graphical apps on ubuntu
[10:41] <Chipped_Cpu> i use all
[10:41] <itsux2bu> there's a page explaining it.. too
[10:41] <StaRetji> Hello there folks. Would someone help me out changing splash boot logo on Ubuntu live on usb stick with permanent storage (casper-rw) Thx.
[10:41] <Chipped_Cpu> su -c "command" works in all distros buddy
[10:41] <itsux2bu> !gksudo | Chipped_Cpu
[10:42] <itsux2bu> hey thats the first time i used the bot
[10:42] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: I'll say again - in ubuntu gksudo is the correct command so that the graphical enviornment is setup correctly for graphical apps
[10:42] <Ghostly> is it possible to install programs in a different location?
[10:42] <ikonia> Ghostly: not really, application paths are set with the deb file
[10:42] <lh643> hello
[10:42] <Chipped_Cpu> are we arguing about a command?  wow good job guys
[10:42] <itsux2bu> alt-f2 is run box?
[10:43] <well_laid_lawn> Ghostly:  if you build from source yes
[10:43] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: no, you're being told the correct command so that you don't use the wrong command or offer the wrong command to other users
[10:43] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  yep
[10:43] <StaRetji> I can't updateinitrframs etc. Help needed
[10:43] <Ghostly> ikonia: aha, then i have a problem since my harddrive is prettey full
[10:43] <Chipped_Cpu> man gksu vs man sudo
[10:43] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: that has nothing to do with it
[10:43] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, they are very serious in here about being exact.. with 1300+ users in here at any given time you have to be
[10:44] <valdur55> what kernel Ubuntu 10.04.1 uses?
[10:44] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, right now its very slow.. but i been in here when  text scrolls by real fast..
[10:44] <KuriKai> Anyone know what happened to the windicators?
[10:44] <ikonia> valdur55: 2.6.32-24 is current
[10:44] <well_laid_lawn> Chipped_Cpu:  sudo will work with graphical apps until it breaks - then what do you do
[10:44] <ikonia> ok - I think we've got the point, the command for graphical apps is "gksudo"
[10:45] <Chipped_Cpu> wow okay
[10:45] <itsux2bu> yea.. kinda beated that like a dead horse
[10:45] <Chipped_Cpu> no sudo use gksu so your computer doesn't hit you in the face with a hammer
[10:46] <itsux2bu> hey.. he was ok..
[10:46] <ptptaylor> Oh being hit with a hammer is not wise
[10:47] <Ghostly> well_laid_lawn: any tips on building from source doing that or a good site you know of?
[10:47] <Sc00t3r> itsux2bu: This is a support channel, not a channel to fool around like he was.
[10:47] <ikonia> Ghostly: I strongly advise you not to build from source
[10:48] <ikonia> Ghostly: if you can clean your hard disk up, or buy additional storage,
[10:48] <well_laid_lawn> Ghostly:  normally in   ./configure -help   it gives the option to set a diff install path and there is
[10:48] <ikonia> Ghostly: building a package from source can have a lot of long term issues on the stability and supportability of your ubuntu install unless you know exactly what you are doing
[10:48] <well_laid_lawn> !compile
[10:48] <itsux2bu> ok... but i didn't think he was that bad
[10:48] <sanjoy> how to upgrade firefox in ubntu
[10:48] <tempi> how can i forward the output of time call in a file? time sleep 1 >> /tmp/foo doenst work
[10:49] <ikonia> goat-re: you don't have to change your nickname - you're not banned. Welcome back
[10:50] <Ghostly> ikonia: then installing ubuntu on a netbook on a 4gb ssd wasen't such a good idea -.-
[10:50] <goat-re> how'd you mean gksudo will not break your app
[10:50] <well_laid_lawn> tempi:  I think time uses standard error so it would be   time sleep 1 2> /tmp/foo
[10:50] <goat-re> ?
[10:50] <ikonia> Ghostly: that is a bit tight on space, yes
[10:50] <ikonia> goat-re: it can break your application as the graphical environment will be used as root, rather than the user with root permissions
[10:50] <ranjan> ikonia, who are you to ban me?
[10:50] <sanjoy> how to upgrade mozilla firefox ??
[10:50] <ikonia> goat-re: eg: using the config files in root's home directory
[10:50] <Slart> Ghostly: with 4GB of space I would either be very very careful with what programs I install
[10:51] <Sc00t3r> Ghostly: To be honest, it's an okay idea, but only if you are looking at only doing web surfing and such.
[10:51] <ikonia> goat-re: gksudo will use your personal users config files, but as root
[10:51] <Slart> Ghostly: you can always start with the minimal install and choose carefully from there.. think twice about installing openoffice and other large packages
[10:51] <bogdomania> cheers guys.. no luck on the forums so i`ll ask here: after installing 10.10 and upgrade it, i don`t have the external usb drives(flash drive in vfat) auto-mounted.. it is listed with lsusb. hal is installed, but hal-device-manager is not available in repos.. any ideas?
[10:51] <goat-re> gotcha
[10:52] <sanjoy> >_<
[10:52] <ikonia> goat-re: it's more of an issue with applications that are used as root AND as non-root users
[10:52] <Slart> bogdomania: I think 10.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <tempi> well_laid_lawn, it doesnt work...
[10:52] <sanjoy> can ne1 help me ?
[10:52] <ikonia> goat-re: if the application is a "root only" application, you can normally get away with it
[10:52] <bogdomania> oh, sorry.. thanks for the tip
[10:52] <fasta> Can I tell Ubuntu to preload certain applications into memory without starting them?
[10:52] <ikonia> fasta: not really no
[10:53] <ikonia> fasta: pre-linking does that to a certain level with the libraries automatically though
[10:53] <Sc00t3r> Fasta: Applications are loaded into memory to be run. It wouldn't be the best idea to pre-load them.
[10:53] <sanjoy> pls help me
[10:53] <fasta> Sc00t3r, I have 4GB of RAM, I never use it.
[10:53] <ikonia> sanjoy: ask a question then
[10:53] <Ghostly> ok thanks for all the advice, if i run into space problems i will probably reinstall it on the other harddrive instead and use the ssd for extra storage
[10:53] <ikonia> fasta: it is used for file system caching
[10:53] <ikonia> Ghostly: that's a good call in my opinion
[10:53] <fasta> Sc00t3r, it's the same thing for when I plugin in an USB key, I want all the stuff on the USB key automatically copied to memory.
[10:54] <fasta> plug in*
[10:54] <Sc00t3r> Ghostly: If you get desperate for space, you could set up a network storage.
[10:54] <sanjoy> how to upgrade firefox ?
[10:54] <fasta> Sc00t3r, it seems it only caches stuff you have actually read from the device.
[10:54] <ikonia> sanjoy: you don't - ubuntu will offer you an upgrade when one is available
[10:54] <Slart> sanjoy: upgrade from what version to what version?
[10:54] <Sc00t3r> fasta: That would actually be a slight lengthy process whenever you plugged things in and would most definitely bog down your system with side-applications to keep it loaded.
[10:54] <sanjoy> :S
[10:54] <sanjoy> i have 3.5.3
[10:54] <fasta> Sc00t3r, it should run with the lowest priority.
[10:54] <sanjoy> i want 2 upgrade 3.6
[10:54] <well_laid_lawn> tempi:  you're right - I can't get it to redirect... :|
[10:55] <Slart> sanjoy: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:55] <sanjoy> 9.10
[10:55] <fasta> Sc00t3r, the very moment I actually do something, it should immediately abandon these kinds of operations.
[10:55] <goat-re> synaptic?
[10:55] <tempi> well_laid_lawn, ok... but thx for your help
[10:55] <goat-re> or off their website
[10:56] <Sc00t3r> fasta: The thing is, each time you plug in the device, it would suddenly move its priority to moving those files over into your RAM. not only would this take up bandwidth, but all other applications would temporarily be slowed down.
[10:56] <Slart> sanjoy: have you tried just running the update-manager?
[10:56] <fasta> Sc00t3r, I also think even the Ubuntu kernel optimizes for throughput, since sometimes I cannot even see my desktop for a few seconds when I am doing a lot of harddisk operations.
[10:56] <sanjoy> nop
[10:56] <Sc00t3r> Fasta: In the end, it's best to just wait for applications to load. It's not that long of a procerss.
[10:56] <fasta> Sc00t3r, the GUI should run at a higher priority, imho.
[10:56] <sanjoy> how will i do that?
[10:56] <Slart> sanjoy: I think 3.6.8 or something is the version in the repos
[10:56] <Slart> sanjoy: system, administration, update-manager   I think
[10:57] <totone> exit
[10:57] <fasta> Sc00t3r, if I use less than 100% CPU, why would things slow down?
[10:57] <fasta> Sc00t3r, it's not like all my wires are full of data all the time either.
[10:57] <goat-re> system/administration/synaptic
[10:58] <Sc00t3r> fasta: This is going to be a very long and lengthy discussion. I don't know how to do what you want to do, and in my opinion, it's not that useful.
[10:59] <Sc00t3r> fasta: If you're looking into having key applications loaded quickly, buy yourself a SSD for those applications, or set up a RAM drive (which I don't know how to do).
[10:59] <sanjoy> there is no mozilla upgrade option
[10:59] <Sc00t3r> Sanjoy, are you trying to update your Mozilla firefox?
[10:59] <fasta> Sc00t3r, I suppose I have to write the feature myself if I really want it then.
[11:00] <dksoba88> Hi. Running Karmic Koala (2.6.31-21-generic). 6gb RAM, Core2Duo E8400. Multiple SATA drives. Problem: I put a 2.5" SATA drive into this desktop to make a copy of the data on the drive. In each case, the transfer speeds are super slow. From NTSC partitions, I've had transfer speeds around 8-10 MB/s. For ext3 partitions, however, I'm only getting 1-3 MB/s, which is VERY slow. Note, the transfers are from drive to drive (sda->sdb). Anyone h
[11:00] <dksoba88> ave any ideas or things I can check?
[11:01] <Sc00t3r> dksoba, Is the 2.5" using USB?
[11:01] <Slart> sanjoy: can you pastebin the output from "apt-cache policy firefox"
[11:01] <Sc00t3r> Slart, are they trying to update firefox?
[11:01] <dksoba88> Sc00t3r, No. Directly connected via SATA (to clarify: opened up case, attached SATA cable to mobo, etc)
[11:01] <Slart> scoopex: yes
[11:02] <Slart> oops.. sorry scoopex
[11:02] <Slart> Sc00t3r: yes.. on 9.10, he/she is running 3.5 for some reason
[11:02] <Slart> !info firefox karmic
[11:02] <Sc00t3r> Slart: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:02] <Sc00t3r> Slart: It will install the latest version of firefox
[11:03] <Sc00t3r> dksoba: To be honest, I am not fully sure of this. Is the partition you are moving files to/from at the end of the hard drive?
[11:03] <Slart> Sc00t3r: yup.. but I figured it would be wise to know why the updates hasn't worked so far..
[11:03] <KuriKai> anyone know what happened to the windicators?
[11:04] <Sc00t3r> Slart: I find it best to trust a single-ended update to something. Update Manager might not update Firefox itself, only certain key features.
[11:04] <erUSUL> dksoba88: how are you making the copies ?
[11:04] <dksoba88> Sc00t3r, actually, I'm copying entire drives. In this particular case, I have 3 100GB partitions (320gb drive), each is more than 90% full
[11:04] <dksoba88> erUSUL, Nautilus
[11:05] <dksoba88> erUSUL, maybe this is the problem...?
[11:05] <abhi_> hello
[11:05] <Guest83799> hello
[11:05] <erUSUL> dksoba88: dunno tried with plain old "cp" ?
[11:05] <Sc00t3r> dksoba88: At the end of hard drive spindles, transfer rates get extremely slow. I drop down to 30MB/s on larger, 500GB drives on large file transfers. It seems pretty normal for that to happen.
[11:05] <abhi_> hey
[11:05] <Guest83799> hey
[11:05] <Guest83799> exiyt
[11:05] <Guest83799> exit
[11:05] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I'm trying to understand why, when I set a CIFS command up in fstab, I then get duplicate mounted shares under 'places'....can anyone help?
[11:05] <FloodBot3> Guest83799: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <dksoba88> erUSUL, wouldn't be able to get transfer rate. 30 MB/S would be awesome. I'm getting 2-3mb/s.
[11:06] <Sc00t3r> dksoba88: I would say, after transferring all the files, do a nice benchmark on your drives to ensure they are okay. Then, do a fragmentation/disk error check.
[11:06] <sanjoy> thnx
[11:06] <Sc00t3r> sanjoy: You have been successful in updating firefox?
[11:06] <dksoba88> Sc00t3r, I know how to use hdparm -Tt, but what about fragmentation/disk error check?
[11:06] <sanjoy> im able to upgrade it
[11:07] <sanjoy> thanks to all who helped ^_^
[11:07] <sanjoy> yap
[11:07] <dksoba88> Oh yea, forgot to mention a lot of files are around 17-20 megabytes... not sure if this is considered "small" though
[11:07] <dksoba88> and I'm transferring to a 2TB WD drive
[11:07] <twq> halo
[11:07] <pat_> Hello everyone
[11:07] <Sc00t3r> dksoba88: You can use Disk Utility to check your disk for errors, and to benchmark the disks. Also, with large amounts of files, they can be fragmented, and thus cause low transfer rates.
[11:07] <erUSUL> dksoba88: suppose you are on the dir you want to copy « tar cf - . | pv | ( cd destination/ && tar xf - ) »
[11:08] <dksoba88> But I'm pretty sure the 2TB WD drive is not the bottleneck, since I get fast transfer rates from USB and fast transfer rates in Windows (using the same set of drives)
[11:08] <itsux2bu> dksoba88.. the wd 2tb black with 64mb cache?
[11:08] <pikpik>  warszawa.irc.pl
[11:09] <dksoba88> itsux2bu, yes
[11:09] <pat_> I have a quick question...for some reason when i go to start up firefox it automatically closes...ive tried uninstalling and reinstalling with a reboot in between and it still crashes...just wondering what i could have messed up lol
[11:09] <fasta> dksoba88, at random times I have the same problem even with larger files.
[11:09] <itsux2bu> dksoba88, how much you pay for it?
[11:09] <Sc00t3r> itsux2bu: This is a discussion for another place. He is looking for support.
[11:10] <fasta> dksoba88, it might be some signal interference thing.
[11:10] <itsux2bu> ok.. i'll just repeat in private.. loose up guys
[11:11] <fasta> dksoba88, you need professional tools to really know, though.
[11:11] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Transfer rates are not affected by signal interference.
[11:11] <fasta> Sc00t3r, if I cut the cable, there is a lot of interference.
[11:11] <zeleftikam> heh
[11:12] <Sc00t3r> fasta: There is a difference between signal obstruction and signal interference. He is using a cable; if there were interference, he would be getting transfer loss, and therefore, he would be getting drive errors.
[11:12] <fasta> Sc00t3r, maybe he gets those?
[11:12] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Disk Utility does a quick check on all disks and gives you a heads-up error on the screen if a drive is failing as such.
[11:13] <erUSUL> Sc00t3r: fasta dksoba88 he can easily check in dmesg or /var/log/messages for those
[11:13] <dksoba88> itsux2bu, 2TB Caviar Sata 3 64MB 3.5IN Green, $119.83 shipped
[11:13] <Sc00t3r> erUSUL: He can also use the disk utility GUI.
[11:13] <dksoba88> fasta, I've got a nice o-scope
[11:13] <erUSUL> Sc00t3r: that shows SMART info; no kernel/libata issues
[11:13] <mkulke> hello, i use a lenovo netbook with ubuntu 10.10, i wonder wether there is a plugin for chrome/firefox which zooms to textblocks with doubleclicks like on the iphone/android browser
[11:14] <fasta> If you are not doing anything on your machine and you cannot copy something big with let's say 20MB/sec and there are no errors on the software side, then I suggest you should contact your vendor.
[11:14] <dksoba88> erUSUL, what should I grep for in dmesg?
[11:14] <Sc00t3r> mkulke: I can almost guarantee you that your answer is going to be no. Look on a plugin discussion board for something on the such.
[11:14] <dksoba88> fasta, I think there are errors on the software side
[11:15] <dksoba88> fasta, different software, and I don't have this problem
[11:15] <fasta> Does it matter where you read something of a disk, btw?
[11:15] <erUSUL> dksoba88: grep ata
[11:15] <mikebeecham> can anyone tell me how I can find the correct 'SDxx' of a shared folder that I have created under, /media/shared_folder
[11:15] <dksoba88> fasta, I only have this problem in ubuntu
[11:15] <mkulke> Sc00t3r: strange, this is so practical. i guess i'll have to code something then :)
[11:15] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Very much so. The farther it is to the end of the platter, the more slowly the disk is going to be read (Read/write speeds decrease the closer the data is to the end of the platter)
[11:15] <erUSUL> mikebeecham: what is SDXX ?
[11:16] <mikebeecham> erSUL, like sda1, sdb1, etc
[11:16] <Sc00t3r> erUSUL: They are revering-- to that.
[11:16] <fasta> Sc00t3r, ok, so could that explain my 5.4MB/s reads from a >100MB file in some cases?
[11:16] <mikebeecham> I'm trying to resolve a duplicate share in places
[11:16] <erUSUL> mikebeecham: so the folder  is mount point?
[11:16] <geirha> mikebeecham: df /media/shared_folder
[11:16] <zeleftikam> I have an Intel Atom D510 machine. Does anyone know of a utility to read the CPU temp?
[11:16] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Are you transferring the said files within the drive, or to a drive seperate of the reading drive?
[11:16] <erUSUL> !sensors | zeleftikam
[11:16] <dksoba88> erUSUL, Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/iubt5X9H
[11:16] <fasta> Sc00t3r, separate.
[11:16] <mikebeecham> erSUL yeah
[11:17] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: will try. thanks!
[11:17] <dksoba88> Seems to me that BIG files shouldn't be a problem. It's the small ones that might cause a problem
[11:17] <fasta> dksoba88, small ones are a FS issue.
[11:17] <mikebeecham> I have a shared folder on my mac, I have created an fstab entry to that I can auto mount it....however, it is displaying twice under 'places'
[11:17] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I can't really explain in-depth, but if the reading disk is the OS disk, then naturally it will have low read/read speeds.
[11:17] <erUSUL> dksoba88: nothing special there... tried copying with the tar pipe ? to discard a nautilus problem ?
[11:17] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: i get the message "No sensors found!"
[11:18] <dksoba88> erUSUL, not yet
[11:18] <fasta> Sc00t3r, the reading disk is some external disk.
[11:18] <fasta> Sc00t3r, and what you say is false, AFAIK.
[11:18] <Sc00t3r> fasta: What is the writing disk?
[11:18] <erUSUL> dksoba88: pv is not installed by default
[11:18] <fasta> Sc00t3r, nothing, I am only talking about reads.
[11:18] <dksoba88> erUSUL, I'll do this now
[11:18] <fasta> scoopex, oh, sorry, yes, OS disk is the target.
[11:19] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I honestly could not explain. It could easily be the SATA controller, the motherboard, or the disk itself.
[11:19] <dksoba88> erUSUL, woah... read the 1st sentence of PV description... why haven't I used this before!
[11:19] <fasta> Sc00t3r, are there no tools that show you in your face what's wrong?
[11:19] <fasta> Sc00t3r, otherwise we continue to have broken components.
[11:19] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Not that I have used/know of. Sorry.
[11:20] <erUSUL> :)
[11:20] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I make a point of purchasing higher-quality components with good reviews. I never have these problems.
[11:20] <fasta> Sc00t3r, the state of computing is pretty bad, IMHO.
[11:20] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: erp ignore my last. didn't follow some of the steps. now i got it to the point where it detects and reports some ISA sensors (whatever those are?) but says ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp1_input: Can't read
[11:20] <fasta> Sc00t3r, but that's another topic.
[11:21] <erUSUL> zeleftikam: it does not show any info ?
[11:21] <dksoba88> erUSUL, this is going much faster... I think
[11:21] <fasta> Sc00t3r, I generally also don't have problems, but this was my first external harddisk and you know people only look for failure rates and GB/$.
[11:21] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I run a larger, 4-disk setup, and I average around 70-120MB/s between the two 500GB drives. It drops to 20-30MB/s on my 2.5" drive and my OS drive.
[11:21] <erUSUL> dksoba88: pv should tell
[11:21] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: it shows 4 of these isa coretemps. two of them are 0C and two of them are 10C. Neither plausible
[11:21] <fasta> Sc00t3r, without raid?
[11:21] <Sc00t3r> fasta: All external hard disks using USB2.0/1.1 are going to have transfer rates below 20MB/s.  I have compiled Ndiswrapper from source before so it's not the end of the world. I was just wondering why there is no ndis installed??
[11:21] <dksoba88> erUSUL, not sure if I'm comparing apples to oranges or not
[11:22] <fasta> Sc00t3r, I get 26MB from mine, max.
[11:22] <fasta> Sc00t3r, (external)
[11:22] <Sc00t3r> fasta: That is a burst rate, the maximum speed for USB 2.0 transfer rates. The average, sustained rate will be around 8MB/s.
[11:22] <fasta> Sc00t3r, no, that's what I actually get.
[11:22] <x-files> http://facebook-youtube.com.nu/
[11:22] <fasta> Sc00t3r, average is maybe 22MB/s or so.
[11:22] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I consider you extremely lucky then. USB 2.0 is limited to those speeds, usually.
[11:23] <x-files> http://facebook-youtube.com.nu/
[11:23] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Then again, the controller could be higher quality. That could lead to your results.
[11:23] <well_laid_lawn> applecrumble:  try installing ndiswrapper-common
[11:23] <fasta> Sc00t3r, the device itself is (ignoring the fact that the screen was probably broken from the start (but it got repaired)) great.
[11:24] <dksoba88> erUSUL, how can I see what filesystem each partition is using from command line?
[11:24] <applecrumble> that is cool. But i have no net on machine - only wireless possible -
[11:24] <erUSUL> dksoba88: sudo blkid
[11:24] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I'm looking at getting a 64GB SSD for this netbook (that I'm using right now), or for my OS on my computer. Not sure which I will use it for.
[11:25] <erUSUL> zeleftikam: no sure maybe you have to modprobe some driver? try "coretemp"
[11:25] <JiveTurkeh> If Ubuntu is for human beings, what distro is for martians ?
[11:25] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: will try that. thanks for your guidance
[11:25] <Sc00t3r> JiveTurkeh: Fedora.
[11:25] <fasta> JiveTurkeh, Windows?
[11:25] <dksoba88> erUSUL, (was just looking through df... you can also do df -T it turns out... didn't mean to ask you for help then tell you a way to do it though lol!)
[11:26] <fasta> Sc00t3r, do you use your netbook in practice a lot(assuming you already own a laptop)?
[11:26] <dksoba88> erUSUL, blkid has other good uses it appears tho
[11:26] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I only own this netbook and a pretty high powered computer. The netbook, I use with linux (and will use it for school).
[11:26] <erUSUL> zeleftikam: i meant "sudo modprobe coretemp"
[11:27] <erUSUL> dksoba88: sure; in linux there is allways more than one way to do something
[11:27] <erUSUL> zeleftikam: then try sensors again
[11:27] <Sc00t3r> fasta: We should move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <erUSUL> dksoba88: so what did you get from the tar copy ?
[11:28] <Makelin> from irclog2html i want to generate html log, but unable to get previous and next links
[11:29] <dksoba88> erUSUL, so, if I type df -T, I get "fuseblk" for type for partition1 (blkid shows NTFS), and "ext3" for partition2. Using tar+pv, I get 30+ MB/s for partition1, and less than 3MB/s with 5MB/s spikes for partition2.
[11:29] <Makelin> help me to fire a right command
[11:29] <m2rt> Hey! What the deuche is my problem? My latest ubuntu server edition won't normally boot up. It boots to some busybox and won't start its services before I type exit and leave the busybox.
[11:29] <dksoba88> erUSUL, partition1/partition2 names are arbitrary. How can I find out the physical disk area assignment of these partitions?
[11:30] <erUSUL> dksoba88: fuse ( for ntfs ) can be the botleneck here. being a filesystem in userspace makes it slower
[11:30] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: oh, well, same output. http://pastebin.com/F2YyDUiV
[11:30] <erUSUL> dksoba88: "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/"
[11:31] <dksoba88> erUSUL, okay... that partition was transferring something like 11 MB/s from Nautilus. But my ext3 partition transfers ~3MB/s from both Nautilus and tar+pv
[11:31] <aurilliance> :( I don't want to loose my 13day uptime, but my wifi doesn't turn on when I press Fn+Wifi :/
[11:31] <aurilliance> Any suggestions?
[11:31] <erUSUL> dksoba88: from ext3 to what fs?
[11:31] <dksoba88> dksoba88, NTFS. the 2TB WD drive is NTFS
[11:32] <erUSUL> aurilliance: use rfkill? « sudo rfkill unblock all »
[11:32] <dksoba88> erUSUL: wait a minute.... ext3->NTFS... could that cause slowdown?
[11:32] <erUSUL> dksoba88: as i said the botleneck can be in the ntfs writting through fuse. fuse is inherently slower as a userspace program
[11:32] <steelbak> I have a linksys E3000 w/ 1.5 Seagate USB attached to it working but stalls out. A reboot of router, drive & sytems fixes (usually). Using 10.04. Sling files w/ Dolphin & Krusader. Can I refresh router from system? Any ideas?
[11:32] <aurilliance> erUSUL: no luck
[11:33] <erUSUL> aurilliance: reload the driver? « sudo modprobe -r driver && sudo modprobe drver » ?
[11:33] <aurilliance> erUSUL: I think it has something to do with ubuntu having updated, and now wanting me to restart...
[11:34] <mikebeecham> erSUL - found a fix!!! yay!
[11:34] <aurilliance> erUSUL: thanks for thw suggestions, ill just cut my losses and restar ;)
[11:34] <RobertV> any idea how i would chain these two commands? (1) ls -d */ (2) rm -rf  [delete all -- and only -- directories in the current directory]
[11:34] <dksoba88> erUSUL, maybe I don't understand userspace. Does this mean gui/nautilus?
[11:35] <mikebeecham> can anyone tell me how I can get rid of an entry within Places, where the source is no longer present?  The share it refers to is now gone, as is the entry within fstab.  I cannot unmount it or delete it.
[11:35] <erUSUL> dksoba88: no; fuse let you write filesystem drivers in userspace as oposed to write a real kernel driver ( like the ones for ext jfs xfs hfs ufs etc ...)
[11:35] <erUSUL> dksoba88: the ntfs kernel driver only let you read ( not writte) ntfs-3g the fuse based driver let you read an writte but it is slower
[11:36] <mgj> Anyone know of an application which can record a video of what is being shown on the screen? Something similar to fraps in windows
[11:36] <mikebeecham> When I try to umount I get this "Could not open location 'file:///media/Albums' - error stating file '/media/Albums': No such device or address
[11:36] <mikebeecham> help!
[11:36] <erUSUL> !screencast | mgj
[11:37] <Makelin> from irclog2html i want to generate html log, but unable to get previous and next links
[11:37] <Makelin> from irclog2html i want to generate html log, but unable to get previous and next links
[11:37] <Makelin> from irclog2html i want to generate html log, but unable to get previous and next links
[11:37] <FloodBot3> Makelin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:37] <mgj> erUSUL, thanks
[11:37] <dksoba88> erUSUL, can I switch it to ntfs kernel driver?
[11:37] <dksoba88> erUSUL, or is this not recommended?
[11:37] <m2rt> Hey! What the deuche is my problem? My latest ubuntu server edition won't normally boot up. It boots to some busybox and won't start its services before I type exit and leave the busybox.
[11:39] <erUSUL> dksoba88: yes you can; but you can not write anything with it. it can only read ( is read only )
[11:39] <aruntomar> hi! i want to run a particular script, every time after my wireless network gets connected, where should i put up that script
[11:40] <erUSUL> m2rt: maybe adding rootdelay=[some seconds here] to kernel parameters ? or rootwait ( would have to check docs )
[11:40] <erUSUL> aruntomar: /etc/network/if-up.d/ ?
[11:40] <dksoba88> erUSUL, :(... this won't work for  me then
[11:40] <erUSUL> no
[11:40] <erUSUL> dksoba88: http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-commercial/performance/
[11:40] <aruntomar> erUSUL: ok, i'll try it
[11:41] <m2rt> erUSUL, even though I understood nothing you said, I will google it :)
[11:43] <erUSUL> m2rt: modify /etc/default/grub and add in the kernel parameters variable the parameter rootwait ot rootdelay=5 ( to wait for root to appear )
[11:44] <erUSUL> m2rt: the var is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[11:44] <dksoba88> erUSUL, If I install ntfs-3g I won't be able to do writes, though
[11:45] <m2rt> Thanks erUSUL! Will try this.
[11:45] <erUSUL> dksoba88: ntfs-3g is what you are curently using and is the one that is slow
[11:45] <dksoba88> erUSUL, or is NTFS kernel driver, FUSE, and NTFS-3g three completely separate things
[11:45] <dksoba88> erUSUL, oh, hrmm
[11:45] <erUSUL> dksoba88: NTFS kernel driver is one thing. ntfs-3g + fuse is another
[11:47] <dksoba88> erUSUL, so the current theory is that transfers are slow because I'm going from ext3->NTFS. They're slightly faster from NTFS->NTFS. But it should be blazing fast (or normal, for most people) if I do ext3->ext3
[11:47] <erUSUL> dksoba88: correct.
[11:48] <dksoba88> erUSUL, ...testing
[11:49] <dksoba88> erUSUL, our theory is wrong... it's still quite slow... maybe it's getting faster
[11:49] <dksoba88> erUSUL, I need to low pass this damn pv output!
[11:49] <Jenny-uk> hi i want to ask does anyone know if there somewhere is some  gnome applet to monitor ati gpu ?
[11:50] <dksoba88> erUSUL, okay, god awefully slow from ext3->ext3, with some large spikes (typically 1-3 MB/s, but there are spikes of 20 MB/s for one "pv frame")
[11:51] <SVIFI> :B
[11:52] <erUSUL> !sensors | Jenny-uk
[11:52] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: and there is a sensors applet
 i have it but and i can just see cpu and hdd no fan no gpu
[11:54] <erUSUL> :/ then i dunno, sorry
 could u write a new applet to monitor ati gpu ?
[11:55] <Jenny-uk> maybe in python or something?
[11:55] <raven> how to mount a SAMBA folder?
[11:55] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: too much for my skills
 so what can you do ?
[11:56] <erUSUL> raven: Places>Network>Windows Network ? Placces > Connect toserver
[11:56] <raven> erUSUL, by command line
[11:57] <erUSUL> raven: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=xxxxx,password=xxxxx,etc ///serveriporname/sharename /mount/point
[11:57] <erUSUL> raven: see "man mount.cifs"
 why are u so quiet ?
[12:02] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: becouse i can not help you further. sorry
[12:03] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: i did a quick google search and it seems that you can not monitor ati gpu temperatures
 dont worry
[12:03] <Jenny-uk> i can always check it from a shell
 hows everything ?
[12:04] <Jenny-uk> wife kids dog ?
[12:05] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: if you can check it from shell with the sensors command. then the sensors applet can show it in the panel. just tweak the preferences of the applet to onlyshow the ati temp.
 i dont know how to tweak sensors do you ?
[12:05] <Jenny-uk> i have ati hd4850 and when i type aticonfig --odgt  i can see the temp
[12:06] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: no wife no kids no dog ;) but averything's ok thanks. right click on the applet choose preferences. go to the second tab ( sensors ) only tick the ones you want to show up
[12:06] <dksoba88> erUSUL, Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. I'll let you know if I learn anything more about the problem.
[12:06] <dksoba88> erUSUL, time to sleep. goodnight
[12:07] <erUSUL> dksoba88: no problem. nite
 no gpu over there just hdd acpi and libsenrsors
[12:08] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: and in libsensors ? no gpe there either ?
[12:08] <Jenny-uk> libsensors = temp1 cpu1 cpu2 cpu3 cpu4
[12:08] <Jenny-uk> no gpu
[12:09] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: i know it does not help but my nvidia card shows up...
[12:09] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: ok; another death end. sorry
[12:09] <Jenny-uk> its ok ati always had problems :)
[12:10] <hubi123> hello, how to connect two computers where one is Win7, and the second Ubuntu?
[12:10] <hubi123>  of course, the connection is run through the router
[12:10] <hubi123>  Win7 where there is the cable connected, and where ubuntu is the wifi.
[12:11] <jca1981> Hi i need Urgent help, i was updating to Lucid via do-release-upgrade via ssh and my internet connection died. i was at configuring sysctl.conf part of installation. what can i do? :(
[12:11] <logan_wolf> hubi123, what is the problem
[12:11] <jca1981> my connection just got up and i can ssh into my box again
[12:12] <emj> I have a .xsession error that has grown to 2GB and I don't know how to free that space in anyway. Any tips? (besides log out)
[12:13] <hubi123> logan_wolf: In Ubuntu, in the "network" I do not see the computer to which I would like to connect.
[12:13] <logan_wolf> jca1981, just run the command again
[12:13] <erUSUL> emj: echo -n "" > ~/.xsession-errors
[12:13] <jca1981> logan_wolf, i just get a "no new release found"
[12:14] <hubi123> of course, I'm going to copy the data over the network [movies, programs]
[12:14] <jca1981> logan_wolf,i still need to configure the new installed packages! how do i do that now ? :)
[12:14] <logan_wolf> hubi123, is wireless turned on
[12:14] <hubi123> yes
[12:14] <emj> erUSUL: Nice one.. :-) thanks
[12:15] <erUSUL> emj: no you have to go for the root cause. what is spamming that log ?
[12:15] <emj> adobe flash.. :-)
[12:15] <emj> or rather the wrapper
[12:16] <logan_wolf> jca1981, what do you want the access for
[12:16] <logan_wolf> jca1981, like do you want to copy some content from win7 to lucid'
[12:16] <emj> erUSUL: there are two root causes, 1. something is spamming the log 2. the log can't handle that gracefully.
[12:16] <logan_wolf> hubi123, what do you want to access win7 for, accessing files on win7 box?
[12:17] <logan_wolf> jca1981, sorry man that was not for you :)
[12:17] <emj> erUSUL: 2. could be fixed if it was syslog that handled it. at least in this case since all the lines were the same.
[12:17] <jca1981> logan_wolf,?, no i just wanted to upgrade my distribution
[12:17] <Benwa> hi, how to flash a bios of an eeepc 1005pe ?
[12:18] <Benwa> i cannot find anything inthe bios options
[12:18] <Cinux`> Hi there, I have gcc on my ubuntu but not g++ can he be named differently?
[12:18] <logan_wolf> jca1981, you can do the same by just sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[12:18] <StaRetji> I'm having problem with ubuntu losing sound after reboot :/ Each time I reboot my sound is muted. It's hda intel. Any thoughts?
[12:19] <hubi123> logan_wolf: yes
[12:20] <jca1981> logan_wolf, "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[12:20] <jca1981> logan_wolf, "old ssh sesion is still active"  "/usr/bin/python /tmp/tmp2MrIAm/lucid --mode=server --frontend=DistUpgradeViewText"
[12:22] <logan_wolf> jca1981, try killall -w aptget
[12:23] <administrator> 4
[12:25] <logan_wolf> hubi123, try this man http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169149
[12:25] <logan_wolf> it may help you
[12:25] <jca1981> logan_wolf, "aptget: no process found" can i jump into the other root session
[12:26] <kingfloss> i want server tools to be installed on my ubuntu pc
[12:27] <logan_wolf> jca1981, have you typed sudo before apt-get dist upgrade
[12:27] <logan_wolf> jca1981, what is other root session
[12:28] <jca1981> logan_wolf, yes, but im logged in as root so no need. and its dist-upgrade
[12:28] <logan_wolf> jca1981, yeah that was a typo
[12:28] <logan_wolf> ;)
[12:29] <kingfloss> also whats the root password of my system as iam only the user for this syste,
[12:29] <kingfloss> system
[12:29] <logan_wolf> jca1981, are you on a desktop or are you connected remotely to a server
[12:30] <ortsvorsteher> kingfloss, which server tools you mean? if you dont gave root a password, there is no one.
[12:30] <ortsvorsteher> !root | kingfloss
[12:32] <fengshaun> I have installed ubuntu on a Sony Vaio VGN-FJ270 laptop, and whenever I change the brightness level, the screen flashes!  (i.e. if I'm changing the brightness from 20% to 25%, the screen goes from 20% to 100% and back to 25% in a moment)
[12:33] <StaRetji> Folks, what could be the reason I'm hearing sound in web browser but not in xbmc for example, sound is disappearing after reboot and if I switch PCs. (using casper-rw on usb stick). I really need help!  I've but "dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>  dns-search domain.com" into /etc/network/interfaces
[12:34] <kingfloss> iam seeing in ubuntu there isnt support for LVM and ACL OR even quotas
[12:34] <sanderj_> put*
[12:35] <jrib> kingfloss: umm, can you be more specific?  All of that stuff should work...
[12:35] <jca1981> logan_wolf, ahh its dead now. have to go home check up on it now. buy
[12:36] <sacarlson> sanderj_: If you want to setup a static address I think you need to setup the values in /etc/resolv.conf manualy.
[12:36] <kingfloss> all it says is i need to download those required packages like for example acl
[12:36] <kingfloss> i need acl package
[12:36] <jrib> !who | kingfloss
[12:36] <Cinux`> cc: error trying to exec 'ccplus' execvp: No such file or directory. Can anybody help me ?
[12:36] <jrib> kingfloss: and I have no idea what "it" is in your sentence nor what you are doing to make "it" say something
[12:37] <jrib> Cinux`: what are you trying to do?
[12:37] <kingfloss> well i mean the command line aka the terminal says....@jrib
[12:37] <sanderj_> sacarlson, Got it working now.. Just had to make sure I put the lines in both resolv.conf and interfaces
[12:37] <jrib> kingfloss: please reread what I just said
[12:37] <Cinux`> jrib: I'm trying to compile a c++ hello world :/
[12:37] <jrib> Cinux`: did you install the "build-essential" package?
[12:38] <Cinux`> jrib: Don't know... How can I see that ?
[12:38] <jrib> Cinux`: if you didn't do it, then run: sudo aptitude install build-essential   to install it now
[12:38] <kingfloss> well the command line/the terminal reports me that i need to install packages to enable well iam contrasting with Redhat
[12:39] <kingfloss> iam i wrong .....jrib
[12:39] <jrib> kingfloss: it's hard to understand what you are saying.  I still have no clue what you are doing.
[12:40] <kingfloss> basically iam learning linux administration so i need to understand how linux works as a server so i wanted to run programs to make it act like server....should i install ubuntu server
[12:41] <jrib> kingfloss: what *exactly* do you want to do?  What *exactly* are you typing into your terminal?  And please address me if you want my attention
[12:41] <sacarlson> kingfloss: what kind of server?  a web server ssh server mysql server?  there are many kinds
[12:41] <m2rt> Hey, what was the command to reload the list of commands after installing a new program?
[12:42] <jrib> m2rt: hash -r
[12:42] <aeon-ltd> kingfloss: dude ubuntu server and ubuntu is basically the same just that one doesn't have all the X crap
[12:42] <m2rt> thanks! jrib
[12:42] <kingfloss> i am also getting problem with ubuntu add user command....i can only create user with no permission and no home directory for the user from command line if anybody can provide me help that would be gr8
[12:42] <aeon-ltd> kingfloss: man adduser
[12:42] <jrib> kingfloss: you should try to solve one problem at a time...
[12:43] <kingfloss> ya at present iam downloading packages that are required for administration
[12:43]  * jrib sighs
[12:45] <sacarlson> kingfloss: you may be installing things you don't need. if you just told us your final goal we could be of much more help to you.
[12:45] <senida> hi everyody
[12:45] <treenester> anybody gettin an internal dial-up modem working in 10.04?
[12:45] <jrib> !dialup | treenester
[12:46] <senida> I would like to know if it exists any distribution for my grands parents ?
[12:46] <kingfloss> iam learning all of server stuff so iam not aware of which server application i need
[12:46] <gnomefreak> senida: ubuntu?
[12:46] <treenester> thank you
[12:46] <kingfloss> i probably want all kind of server tools on my pc
[12:46] <kingfloss> is there a specific package for server tools?
[12:46] <jrib> kingfloss: let me recommend you read the server guide at help.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <sacarlson> kingfloss: what does a server do?
[12:47] <senida> yep, but i'm looking for an ubuntu  customized for grandparents
[12:47] <jrib> senida: customized in what way?
[12:47] <robertm85> kingfloss - if you wanted a windows style server install windows server else read the server guide and start with a plan
[12:47] <lee_> who from  Rizhao?
[12:47] <kingfloss> serves the client needs like database or webserver or print server
[12:47] <gnomefreak> senida: without telling us what you mean by customized its linux you can cusomize it as you need it
[12:48] <senida> easy menus, easy desktop, automatic mount, etc.
[12:48] <jrib> senida: idk, isn't that regular ubuntu?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> our menu is not much different than WIN. it lists the apps you can run in the menu
[12:48] <kingfloss> well can anybody tell me whats the difference between redhat and ubuntu
[12:48] <sacarlson> kingfloss: then maybe you want to install something like lamp.  apt-get install lamp.  to me you not near ready to be an admin.
[12:48] <senida> not really really
[12:48] <jrib> kingfloss: they are different distributions, it's not really a topic for this channel
[12:48] <kingfloss> ya
[12:48] <gnomefreak> kingfloss: yes redhat is a different flavor of linux
[12:48] <Dilberto> i beeez ballin wid muh free operatin systems  brah
[12:49] <aeon-ltd> kingfloss: package manager and documentation
[12:49] <Dilberto> thanks ubuntu g!
[12:49] <bint> what effect has "clear cmos" to my computer? (sorry offtopic)
[12:49] <aeon-ltd> bint: reset system clock and other bios settings
[12:49] <Dilberto> iz gots ta aks yall a cuestyon
[12:49] <bint> ok
[12:49] <bint> its because i can't shut down my computer
[12:49] <bint> maybe this could help
[12:49] <bint> it always restarts
[12:49] <jrib> Dilberto: please speak english
[12:50] <Dilberto> i be speekin english
[12:50] <bint> shuts down - electrictiy and everyhting goes off for 2 seconds and then it restarts
[12:50] <kingfloss> as i see most of stuff that are implemented in ubuntu like usb and cd burning are still not there in redhat 5
[12:50] <jrib> Dilberto: I'm serious, speak english if you want help here
[12:50] <Dilberto> ize speekin english
[12:50] <Dilberto> wut u sayin i don be speekin no english?
[12:50] <aeon-ltd> Dilberto: stop trolling please.
[12:50] <kingfloss> also ubuntu doesnt support LVM in basic installation...
[12:51] <Dilberto> troll?  i a human beein  not a troll
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Dilberto: what lanugage do you prefer because you are not comming across in the spelling you are using
[12:51] <Dilberto> dats raycis
[12:51] <senida> nobody has an idea ?
[12:51] <Dilberto> black people be human not troll!
[12:51] <jrib> !helpme | senida
[12:51] <kingfloss> adduser command should have been more easy to implement in ubuntu
[12:51] <Dilberto> sorry
[12:51] <Dilberto> why they call me a troll?
[12:51] <aeon-ltd> !ops | Dilberto
[12:51] <gnomefreak> everyone with redhatvs ubuntu please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:51] <jrib> Dilberto: move on to your support question
[12:51] <gnomefreak> aeon-ltd: taken care of
[12:52] <Dilberto> I habs this problem with my open office
[12:52] <Dilberto> in ubuntu
[12:52] <aeon-ltd> !details | Dilberto
[12:52] <Dilberto> wont open up properly word worksheets
[12:52] <gnomefreak> Dilberto: you have not asked your question
[12:52] <Dilberto> How do I get a word document that uses some sort of worksheet format to open up properly?
[12:53] <Dilberto> it opens
[12:53] <aeon-ltd> Dilberto: use csv files they transfer better nicely
[12:53] <gnomefreak> Dilberto: like a spreadsheet?
[12:53] <Dilberto> but the fields wont work
[12:53] <Dilberto> nah its a word document
[12:53] <Dilberto> with some sort of dropdown boxes
[12:53] <Dilberto> for choices between 1 - 5
[12:53] <Dilberto> on a list of quesitons
[12:53] <Dilberto> then it tallys
[12:53] <jrib> !enter | Dilberto
[12:53] <FloodBot3> Dilberto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:53] <Dilberto> but it isn't excell
[12:53] <Oli```> Can anybody suggest how to find out why my Alt+Printscreen isn't working?
[12:53] <aeon-ltd> Dilberto: use open formats like csv txt rtf
[12:54] <jrib> Oli```: does just printscreen work?
[12:54] <wastl> hi
[12:54] <Oli```> jrib: yup
[12:54] <jrib> Oli```: is alt-printscreen supposed to grab a window?
[12:54] <Oli```> jrib: yeah
[12:54] <jrib> Oli```: does the cursor change so you can select a window?
[12:54] <senida> ok no probleme bye bye
[12:55] <Oli```> jrib: it *used* to just grab the output of the current window and pop up a window like normal printscreen does
[12:55] <jrib> senida: honestly, I'd use regular ubuntu and sit down with a couple of sessions with them.  Then I'd add icons and such that would seem helpful
[12:56] <jrib> Oli```: oh, but is that a "no" to my previous question?
[12:56] <Oli```> jrib: yeah, I've never had it give me a window-select-style option - even when it worked
[12:56] <Cinux`> jrib: my g++ works now. Thank you!
[12:56] <gnomefreak> senida: might i suggest moving your topic to #ubuntu-offtopic since it is not a support question
[12:56] <Oli```> (yes, that's a no)
[12:57] <jrib> Oli```: k, try executing « gnome-panel-screenshot -w » and see if that works
[12:57] <senida> jrb: i know perfectly well ubuntu (i use debian since 2001) ands i know that will be too difficult for  them (like xp would be also)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> senida: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support related topics
[12:58] <Oli```> jrib: both that and gnome-screenshot --window work fine. I say the other command because I've just had a look at my compiz gnome-compat settings and that's what it lists for the window screenshot command.
[12:58] <jrib> Cinux`: no problem
[12:58] <jrib> Oli```: I see
[12:59] <Oli```> jrib: it's like something's overriding the keypress because other compiz-set keys are working
[12:59] <jrib> Oli```: does it work if you bind it to a different key combination?
[12:59] <Oli```> jrib: yes
[12:59] <jrib> !away > pranay_09
[13:00] <TiK> !away
[13:00] <jrib> Oli```: k, well now we know the issue... Maybe try #compiz?  Did it used to work?  What changed?
[13:00] <TiK> (i wanted to read it
[13:00] <TiK> )
[13:01] <Oli```> jrib: when I try and set it back to <Alt>Print it can't "hear" the key combination. As I say, it's like something else is listening to that event and stopping anything else hear it. Is there any way to see what's responding to a keypress?
[13:01] <jrib> Oli```: not that I know of
[13:02] <Oli```> jrib: same applies to gnome's own keyboard shortcuts window (can't hear it). I'm in metacity now and the same is happening.
[13:03] <jrib> Oli```: check what programs are running
[13:04] <jrib> Oli```: you can also create a fresh new user and verify the key shortcut works there, then you would only have to login with the user for which it doesn't work and list running programs by that user
[13:04] <Oli```> jrib: good plan. I'll try the guest session
[13:06] <sztomi> hi, could someone help me with reinstalling grub2?
[13:07] <jrib> !grub2 > sztomi
[13:07] <sztomi> thanks jrib, Im aware of that
[13:08] <jrib> sztomi: then you need to ask a more specific question
[13:08] <sacarlson> sztomi: how bad is it?
[13:08] <fanqiang> 有人吗？
[13:08] <fanqiang> 说话萨
[13:08] <FloodBot3> fanqiang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:08] <fanqiang> 怎么没有人呢？
[13:08] <sztomi> I repartitioned the harddrive and install windows on another partition
[13:08] <fanqiang> 不是阿
[13:08] <fanqiang> 杂到拉
[13:09] <LjL> !cn | fanqiang
[13:09] <fanqiang> 怎么没有人呢？
[13:09] <wastl> fanqiang: this is an english speaking channel..we don't understand you
[13:09] <sacarlson> sztomi: so you plan to install ubuntu after windows? or has windows caused a problem with a preinstaled ubuntu?
[13:09] <sztomi> the later
[13:10] <sztomi> but simple restoring the original installation is not working because I repartitioned the disk
[13:10] <sacarlson> sztomi: then boot a ubuntu live cd and install grub2 from there
[13:10] <sacarlson> sztomi: it will still work fine
[13:11] <sztomi> is there a way to autodetect installed OSes and install automatically? I'm on the live cd right now
[13:11] <sacarlson> sztomi: even if it moved from sda to sdb with grub2 it will scan find the new location of your old ubuntu and make it bootable
[13:12] <sacarlson> sztomi: yes that's what grub2 does automagic
[13:12] <relachs> hello, i want to install mysql-server via apt-get
[13:12] <relachs> but i get: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[13:12] <relachs> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[13:12] <relachs> what should i do now?
[13:12] <Rob235> good morning
[13:12] <sztomi> sacarlson, do I grub-install or update-grub?
[13:13] <Rob235> is there a way to install ubuntu over an existing install? i know its sloppy but i really messed something up
[13:16] <sacarlson> sztomi: for more details look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/484461/
[13:16] <sacarlson> sztomi: or !grub2
[13:16] <relachs> after restart: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[13:16] <zzzed_> Rob235, just reinstall, but be sure and reformat your partitions
[13:17] <sztomi> thank you
[13:17] <Rob235> zzzed_, i said i didnt want to format...
[13:17] <gnomefreak> relachs: run the command sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:17] <zzzed_> Rob235, no you didn't say that
[13:17] <bazhang> !home | Rob235
[13:17] <Rob235> i said install over an existing install, i thought that was obvious but i guess not
[13:18] <relachs> gnomefreak ok after a restart and trying again it asked me to do so and then i tried again and it seems to download it
[13:18] <bazhang> Rob235, move home to a separate partition then install
[13:18] <gnomefreak> relachs: than the problem is fixed?
[13:19] <Rob235> i still have to reinstall everything though, right?
[13:19] <relachs> gnomefreak for now i think , thanks
[13:19] <bazhang> Rob235, just the OS home wont be touched
[13:19] <Rob235> all my programs
[13:19] <Rob235> oh
[13:19] <gnomefreak> relachs: np. the error gave you the fix i just helped you see it :)
[13:19] <Rob235> thanks
[13:20] <relachs> gnomefreak but only after i restarted and tried again
[13:21] <gnomefreak> relachs: you could have ran sudo apt-get update first i would think but i didnt know the whole story
[13:22] <bint> you guys think that 60° celsius coretemp in a shuttle barebone is too high (bios in idle)? should i clean the cpu and add some new heatsink-paste?
[13:22] <logan_wolf> jca1981, bye
[13:24] <relachs> gnomefreak do you know where mysql is being installed to? because in my have to set a path to the location
[13:24] <relachs> in book the location is /usr/local/mysql
[13:24] <relachs> but i dont see it there...
[13:25] <lanceburrows_> hey [22:21] <lanceburrows> can anyone help me with this error installing 10.04 [22:21] <lanceburrows> NoneType object has no attribute Get_Info, Any help?, I cant install, im using wubi to duel boot, I have downloaded kubuntu 3 times same error
[13:25] <gnomefreak> relachs: not off hand. why /usr/local? are you installing it from repos?
[13:25] <lanceburrows_> I know it isnt ubuntu but there os no covos going on in kubuntu
[13:25] <lanceburrows_> trpos?
[13:26] <jrib> lanceburrows_: did you check the cd for defects?
[13:26] <jrib> lanceburrows_: or whatever the checksum is called nowadays
[13:26] <lanceburrows_> I tried with and without cd
[13:26] <jrib> lanceburrows_: did you check the md5sum?
[13:26] <lanceburrows_> i dont usually use cds
[13:26] <lanceburrows_> how do i check it it is there
[13:26] <relachs> gnomefreak i don't know why the book says so, the book said i should do an apt-get install mysql-server what i did
[13:26] <jrib> !verify | lanceburrows_
[13:26] <relachs> and now a "sudo gem install mysql --with-mysql-dir=/usr/local/mysql
[13:26] <relachs> "
[13:26] <gnomefreak> shoudlnt it be in /etc/ somewhere
[13:27] <jrib> relachs: things you install with APT do not go into /usr/local/
[13:28] <sacarlson> lanceburrows_: your the secound person today that fails to get ubuntu to install with wubi.  you can also try live boot with usb flash disk if you have one.
[13:28] <relachs> i don't know if that line of code belongs to the mac os x part or if i have to do it on linux too
[13:28] <kaushik> hi
[13:28] <lanceburrows_> i dont want to do it without wubi because i dont want to acidently over write windows
[13:29] <bill__> hallo, i installed ubuntu 10.04 and i have a problem . when i go to read a .txt file which is writted in greek i see some very weird letters which are definetely not greek ... please someone help me ... this is an example http://news.in.gr/files/1/2010/AEI-Hmerisia-90.TXT
[13:29] <kaushik> bill__, do you the fonts?
[13:29] <bill__> fonts=?
[13:30] <kaushik> bill__, you need to install fontsfor it in
[13:30] <kaushik> /usr/share/fonts
[13:30] <bill__> but the same happens when i download another txt file
[13:30] <cmpsalvestrini> bill__: Seems to me you have Cyrillic fonts and not Greek fonts
[13:30] <bill__> not reading it in firefox
[13:31] <kaushik> check it in that dir once
[13:31] <sacarlson> lanceburrows_: well it apears wubi is some what broken so I guess your stuck with windows then.
[13:31] <wastl> bill__: hence this is a text file it doesn't know fonts nor formatting. What it does know is encoding...
[13:31] <kaushik> bill__,??
[13:32] <lanceburrows_> hey is there any kubuntu hashs
[13:32] <cmpsalvestrini> sacarison: Not really, he could backup all the Windows documents and take the dive to an all-ubuntu install
[13:32] <LjL> !ops | MexicoLindo's quit message
[13:32] <wastl> bill__: if I set my firefox to open that textfile using ISO-8859-7 (i.e. ISO Standardencoding for Greek) it looks greek to me
[13:32] <sacarlson> lanceburrows_: oh one more solution you can run ubuntu under windows with virtualbox.
[13:32] <lanceburrows_> hashes sorry i need kubuntu hash codes
[13:33] <wastl> gna now hes gone
[13:33] <cmpsalvestrini> Guys: beware of MexicoLindo he's a troll
[13:33] <kaushik> bill__, i think that doesnt matter  even if its a txt it has to show
[13:33] <kaushik> bill__,there?
[13:34] <wastl> kaushik: he left....
[13:34] <kaushik> wastl, :)
[13:34] <lanceburrows_> im going to try copy the 9.10 wubi to the 10.04 installer
[13:35] <TiK> lanceburrows_: why 10.04 comes with wubi..
[13:36] <jrib> !sums | lanceburrows_
[13:36] <lanceburrows_> is there a way i can use the 9.10 files
[13:36] <jrib> !md5sums | lanceburrows_
[13:36] <lanceburrows_> to install 10.04
[13:36] <jrib> lanceburrows_: you could install 9.10 and upgrade if that's the route you wanted to take...
[13:36] <lanceburrows_> mine are different to them
[13:36] <lanceburrows_> i only have an hour
[13:36] <jrib> lanceburrows_: that's likely why you are having issues.  You need to redownload the iso
[13:37] <lanceburrows_> then im going on a plane
[13:37] <iria89> ola
[13:37] <lanceburrows_> i downloaded it 3 times
[13:37] <iria89> hi
[13:37] <jrib> lanceburrows_: use a different mirror?
[13:37] <lanceburrows_> yes
[13:38] <lanceburrows_> i used one from ubuntu site then from an educational mirror then another through torrent
[13:38] <iria89> sombody speak spanish??
[13:38] <ikonia> !es
[13:38] <bazhang> iria89, /join #ubuntu-es
[13:38] <sacarlson> lanceburrows_: in virtualbox you can install the iso without burning the cd.  maybe your problem is bad cd burner
[13:38] <jrib> lanceburrows_: what md5sum did you get on the iso you downloaded?  Which iso did you download?
[13:39] <lanceburrows_> kubuntu 10.04
[13:39] <lanceburrows_> 08-27 21:00 INFO   root: [13:39] <lanceburrows_> hold on i will upload the log
[13:40] <lordleemo> jrib: cant he just dl the wubi installer from http://wubi-installer.org/ rather than dl the iso maybe helps
[13:40] <sudobat> hi everybody
[13:40] <jrib> lordleemo: I don't know
[13:41] <jarek> hej
[13:41] <sacarlson> with wubi  do they create new partitions or are they running ubuntu inside windows patitions?
[13:41] <lanceburrows_> heres the link to the log
[13:41] <lanceburrows_> http://www.sendspace.com/file/en5yfq
[13:42] <lanceburrows_> scarlson the easy way is to make your own partion then install to that
[13:42] <jrib> lanceburrows_: no, please do not use annoying services like sendspace.  If you want to show us the log, use a pastebin.  But at the moment, I'm just asking for the md5sum
[13:42] <sacarlson> lanceburrows_: I have to pay money to see your logs?
[13:42] <lanceburrows_> oh ok
[13:42] <lanceburrows_> really thought it was fre
[13:49] <StaRetji> Folks, what could be the reason I'm hearing sound in web browser but not in xbmc for example, sound is disappearing after reboot and if I switch PCs. (using casper-rw on usb stick). I really need help! Thx in advance.
[13:50] <TiK> if you switch PC's they prob have different soundcards...
[13:50] <StaRetji> TiK, thx for reply, thay are identical
[13:50] <StaRetji> it's intel d945gsejt with intel hd audio
[13:51] <TiK> StaRetji: hmm
[13:51] <TiK> StaRetji: 1sec
[13:51] <StaRetji> so, when I put it back, no sound. The thing is, there is a sound in ubuntu, but xbmc no sound, weird, and it was working before reboot
[13:51] <StaRetji> ok
[13:52] <TiK> StaRetji: A shot in the dark would be to try model=auto and see if
[13:52] <TiK> that makes any difference. (add "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" to
[13:52] <ozzieburr> Hi all, I am trying to install amazonmp3.deb on ubuntu 10.4. It requires a file Dependency is not satisfiable: libboost-filesystem1.34.1 but in Synaptic it has libbost-filesystem 1.40 if someone could help me I would appreciate it
[13:52] <TiK> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and reboot)
[13:52] <StaRetji> TiK, will do that, thx
[13:52] <pc_> alguien sabe donde puedo encontrar la libreria mplex para el grabador de discos brasero??
[13:52] <TiK> StaRetji: ok...
[13:53] <TiK> StaRetji: let me know.. we can try different models
[13:53] <ShinyDarkness> Hello, all. I have a MacBook, an Ubuntu virtual machine and several Windows machines in a network, and I cannot get them to see each other.
[13:53] <TiK> StaRetji: aplay -l and google your codec
[13:54] <StaRetji> TiK, currently its set options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-dig probe_mask=1
[13:54] <StaRetji> but I'll put auto
[13:54] <ShinyDarkness> Actually, the Windows machines see each other perfectly.
[13:54] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: are they set to bridged?
[13:54] <TiK> StaRetji: auto reads from the bios
[13:54] <ShinyDarkness> Yes, I set the network configuration to bridged.
[13:55] <ShinyDarkness> And I installed Samba.
[13:55] <StaRetji> TiK, nope, I've setit
[13:55] <carlosgaldino> Could someone create an account for me? On X10 hosting.
[13:55] <TiK> StaRetji: doesn't work?
[13:55] <StaRetji> TiK, few minutes ago, didn't help, I will try auto now
[13:55] <TiK> StaRetji: oh ok
[13:55] <ShinyDarkness> TiK: Yes, I set the network configuration to bridged.  And I installed Samba.
[13:56] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: is samba running?
[13:56] <ShinyDarkness> I don't know. How do I test whether it is running?
[13:56] <kuu> hello
[13:56] <wastl> ShinyDarkness: do a ps aux | grep smbd on a shell?
[13:56] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: ps aux | grep samba ?
[13:57] <ShinyDarkness> Ok.
[13:57] <wastl> ShinyDarkness: if it outputs just itself there is no samba running
[13:57] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: or smbd ;
[13:57] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: I dont use it myself...
[13:57] <ShinyDarkness> TiK: According to this, samba is running.
[13:58] <ShinyDarkness> TiK, wastl: Can I use samba to get the MacBook and Ubuntu to see each other as well? Or do I have to do something else?
[13:58] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: are you sure? if there was only 1 listing then its pob you looking for it
[14:00] <StaRetji> TiK, nothing, sound works, but no sound in xbmc :/
[14:00] <TiK> StaRetji: ubuntu-bug
[14:00] <StaRetji> TiK, could it be coz I have alsa and pulseaudio
[14:00] <TiK> StaRetji: nah
[14:00] <StaRetji> TiK, why do I need pulse audio
[14:00] <abhijit> hello all!!!
[14:00] <abhijit> just connected mobile and my lovely ubuntu 'just detected and connected me!!! :)
[14:01] <alienseer23> DVD's are not mounting at all, neither data dvd's with info, nor video dvd's with movies. It was working fine a few days ago and just stopped with the last round of updates...
[14:01] <TiK> Shiney: type smbstatus
[14:01] <Regenerating> i have reboot problem :( , i can only hardreset
[14:02] <StaRetji> TiK, what is it for, I didn't have it on older ubuntu, and no sound problems. aplay plays sound just fine, could it be that xbmc uses pulseaudio and that is the problem?
[14:05] <TiK> StaRetji: pulseaudio is just the defualt.. you can try another
[14:05] <TiK> StaRetji: aplay -l just lists your codec's
[14:06] <StaRetji> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front....something.wav plays sound
[14:07] <StaRetji> would I harm something if I uninstall pulseaudio, it confuses me that I have hda intel and pulseaudio in mixer settings
[14:07] <StaRetji> which one is relevant for what?
[14:08] <TiK> StaRetji: idk
[14:09] <_L30_> how can i remove the purple ubuntu screen during startup and just get the text startup
[14:09] <bazhang> !nox | _L30_
[14:09] <TiK> _L30_: remove quiet...
[14:09] <_L30_> ooh got it that :)
[14:09] <_L30_> got it*
[14:10] <x-ip> Hi, i downloaded the iso 32 bit  from ubuntu 10.04 and when it tries to boot i'm getting a uncompression error system halted, any ideas ? :)
[14:11] <bazhang> x-ip, md5 the iso ? burn at low speed then do the disk integrity check?
[14:11] <x-ip> bazhang, the md5 is fine, and i tryed to use it with virtual box (to discard the burns erros) and getting the same error
[14:13] <pozidux> hi every body! i have a question
[14:13] <pozidux> anybody can help me?!
[14:13] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1547521 x-ip like this?
[14:13] <Routers> just ask .. some one will help u if they are available to help
[14:13] <pozidux> i want to remaster debian... where should i begin?!
[14:14] <bazhang> pozidux, ask a question
[14:14] <jrib> pozidux: #debian :)
[14:14] <bazhang> pozidux, ask in #debian
[14:14] <Routers> #debian pls
[14:14] <pozidux> i asked before. nobody answered!
[14:14] <bazhang> pozidux, so be patient ; offtopic here
[14:15] <x-ip> bazhang, yes, the difference is that i'm not upgrading, =)
[14:15] <doktoreas> hello everybody..do you know if evolution has got an archive function for gmail?
[14:15] <pozidux> ok
[14:15] <carlosgaldino> Could someone create an account for me?
[14:15] <davidw> hi - I seem to have lost auto-mounting of usb devices - what service should I restart to see if I can get it back?
[14:15] <bazhang> carlosgaldino, what?
[14:16] <carlosgaldino> bazhang: I need to create an account for free web hosting but due to my country's IP I'm not able, so I'm here asking for help of some foreign
[14:17] <bazhang> carlosgaldino, that has nothing to do with ubuntu. please dont ask
[14:17] <carlosgaldino> bazhang: I know. I came here just to find someone to help
[14:18] <bazhang> carlosgaldino, its offtopic here. please dont
[14:18] <amikrop> Hello. Is this bug fixed with an update, yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/544139
[14:18] <Axz> Guys Spotify for Ubuntu works? because i have it installed cant logon
[14:19] <Axz> anyone has same problem and how to solve it?
[14:19] <feodor> carlosgaldino, #defocus
[14:19] <GRANDx86> hi
[14:20] <carlosgaldino> feodor: oh, good. thanks. i didn't know about it. see bazhang, it's just help, i don't wanna mess with this channel.
[14:20] <GRANDx86> i have backtrack 4 and i have problem with shift key - they don't work
[14:20] <GRANDx86> how to map Windows key as Shift key
[14:20] <bazhang> GRANDx86, #backtrack-linux for support
[14:21] <GRANDx86> i try but i'm banned there...
[14:21] <GRANDx86> backtrack is on ubuntu
[14:21] <bazhang> GRANDx86, your ident is root. change it
[14:21] <bazhang> GRANDx86, no, its not. and not supported here
[14:21] <imfede> how do you know if someone is a root?
[14:22] <bazhang> imfede, check his ident. its banned in certain channels
[14:22] <cast> imfede: you can't.
[14:22] <jrib> imfede: why?
[14:22] <imfede> bazhang: what is the ident and how can i check it?
[14:23] <bazhang> imfede, you mean you as a user? or a irc ident
[14:24] <imfede> bazhang:  does exist a irc root?
[14:24] <bazhang> imfede, ident = root@IP address when they join the channel
[14:25] <hugoshi> can someone help me understand ubuntu boot up configuration, I installed openssh serverbut i don't want it to start on boot.  I looked at sysv-rc-conf and ssh isn't selected to startup in any runlevel - yet it starts up on boot anyways?
[14:25] <imfede> bazhang: when someone join i don't see ident=root@ip
[14:32] <cjxjman> Question for the masses. I get a "you don not have permission or rights to access this file or folder" when I try to open a folder on an XP machine over my network. Its a public folder on the XP box. Shared so everyone can use it.
[14:33] <yonahw|away> Hi, I am running 10.04 within a vm using vmware. In general all works well and is nice. Sometimes when I leave the vm open and running overnight the sound no longer works in the morning. Has anyone ever seen this problem. Google mainly returns results where sound never works.
[14:33] <bazhang> cjxjman, connecting from ubuntu?
[14:33] <cjxjman> yes. going to the XP box over the net
[14:33] <cjxjman> network not internet
[14:33] <theman> hello there...I have a question...
[14:34] <theman> I have a 4core laptop, and I want to install ubuntu 10.04.1
[14:34] <yonahw|away> cjxjman: check the actual permissions, sometimes it seems like its available but actually is inheriting more restrictive persmissions
[14:34] <demo> Hey I'm working with lucid lynx how do I move the close, hide and maximize window buttons to the other side of the window title bar?
[14:34] <theman> which version do you suggest 32, or 64 bits?
[14:34] <bazhang> !controls | demo
[14:34] <demo> theman: sounds like 64
[14:34] <yonahw|away> cjxjman: sorry I meant effective permissions
[14:35] <afeijo> hi guys :)
[14:35] <afeijo> anyone using virtualbox with dual monitor?
[14:35] <theman> ubuntu.org says"Not recommended for daily desktop usage"
[14:35] <cjxjman> ok will do that.
[14:35] <theman> 64 bit Not recommended for daily desktop usage
[14:35] <theman> WHY?
[14:35] <bazhang> theman, its poorly worded. its fine
[14:35] <theman> ok...thanx
[14:36] <cjxjman> I'm running the 64bit version on my Desktop and its nice and fast
[14:36] <emj> theman: yeah for me flash sucks more on 64 bit
[14:36] <yonahw> I am running 64 bit on my home machine as well and also am experiencing some flash issues. Other than that it runs nicely
[14:37] <chrometiger> is there an easy way of tranfering files between 2 pc's, one on wired connection and the other on wireless    "same router"
[14:37] <theman> emj. I have already installed the 32 bits version...and is fine...I was just wandering why ubuntu.org says "Not recommended for daily desktop usage"
[14:37] <TiK> yonahw: flashplugin-nonfree ?
[14:37] <Nwab> hi i try to make an iso for flashing my bios, i did this : 'sudo mount -o loop -t vfat DRDOS703.IMG tmp' and it worked. But i've got a problem when i try to do this : 'sudo cp AWDFASH.EXE biosupdate.file tmp'. I've got this error : 'not enough space ...' why ?
[14:37] <cast> theman: probably because of non-free software having bad 64 bit support,
[14:37] <erUSUL> both ubuntu?
[14:37] <yonahw> TiK: indeed the nonfree
[14:37] <cast> theman: it's almost like they're advocating non-free...
[14:38] <erUSUL> chrometiger: both ubuntu?
[14:38] <TiK> yonahw: works for me on 64bit
[14:38] <theman> cast, ahaaa
[14:38] <Buffalo66> How do i know what ubuntu iso to download
[14:38] <chrometiger> erUSUL: one is   one is winxp
[14:38] <chrometiger> erUSUL: wireless is ubuntu
[14:38] <wer_> Internet is not working on my dell laptop with Kubuntu 10.04. I looked over the net found that I need to install a driver for my system. I need to install build-essential first. How can install it without a net connection ?
[14:38] <TiK> Buffalo66: depends if you are running 32bit or 64bit
[14:38] <Buffalo66> i have a intel mortherboard
[14:38] <Buffalo66> 32
[14:38] <erUSUL> chrometiger: share a folder in winXP then in ubuntu use Places>Network>Windows Network
[14:38] <yonahw> TiK: for me it kind of works. Most things work but some don't. Youtube plays videos but I can't use any of the controls like full screen or close the ad
[14:38] <theman> I have matlab 64 bit version, and I wanted to try it...
[14:38] <emj> theman: yeah what cast says, if you can live commercial applications  then it's ok..
[14:38] <Buffalo66> but how do i make sure im running 32
[14:39]  * emj falls asleep
[14:39] <TiK> yonahw: yeah. thats why I switched too chrome..
[14:39] <theman> no, I can't live with comercial apps...I want free apps
[14:39] <cast> a lot of the world has been running 64bit for a long time
[14:39] <TiK> yonahw: firefox and the plugin sucks
[14:39] <yonahw> TiK: are you saying that you had the same experience in Firefox and switching to chrome firxed it?
[14:39] <wer_> Internet is not working on my dell laptop with Kubuntu 10.04. I looked over the net found that I need to install a driver for my system. I need to install build-essential first. How can install it without a net connection ? Is there a solution ?
[14:39] <yonahw> ah I see
[14:40] <erUSUL> wer_: what driver ?
[14:40] <yonahw> TiK: thanks for that tip I'll be sure to check it out.
[14:40] <chariotwinner> intrestingly vim is not installed by ubuntu
[14:40] <TiK> yonahw: :P
[14:40] <theman> 32bits apps, do run on 64 bit ubuntu?
[14:40] <wer_> erUSUL: the ethernet driver of my laptop is new for which drivers are not in kubuntu as of now
[14:40] <erUSUL> !offline
[14:41] <theman> because in windowz 7 64 bit, many apps have trouble...I can't run my usb tv app anymore...:(
[14:41] <RobertV> has this bug been fixed in the latest ubuntu: panel-autohide leaves a one-pixel line on the desktop
[14:42] <yonahw> theman: I would say that very few apps have trouble running in 64 bit windows 7 since it has the whole wow64 but there are drivers which have issues
[14:42] <RobertV> basically, when you autohide a panel, it doesn't completely autohide it -- it leaves a one-pixel border line
[14:43] <arnorhs> freckin wubi
[14:43] <yonahw> anyone ever experience ubuntu running in a vmware player vm losing sound? anyone know what I should be looking into? A restart of the host fixes it but I don't really want to go that route if it can at all be avoided?
[14:43] <arnorhs> i installed wubi 2 times yesterday night, both installations got destroyed
[14:43] <RobertV> is a vmware player different from vmware workstation?
[14:43] <theman> yonahw, maybe, but in ubuntu 32 bits there is no need for drivers, kaffeine has everything...so, If I move to 64 bit ubuntu will I face troubles? or there will be only commercial apps?
[14:44] <TiK> RobertV: yes sort of player is the shareware version
[14:44] <wer_> erUSUL: that doesn't solve the problem. Theweb link says error:
[14:44] <arnorhs> first try ubuntu didn't get added to the bootloader, second time i managed to start ubuntu but after an hour of use I tried to install xchat.. which froze the computer, and the root.disk got ruined
[14:44] <arnorhs> fun times :)
[14:44] <MicrosoftBil> yas!
[14:44] <MicrosoftBil> finally!!!
[14:44] <arnorhs> will probably try to do it the good old way instead
[14:44] <wer_> erUSUL: ApTonCD won't work as I don't have build-essential on my system as of now
[14:45] <erUSUL> wer_: and synaptic script?
[14:45] <MicrosoftBil> finally cracked and hacked the wifi!!!
[14:45] <yonahw> theman: I can't tell you what will happen on your machine but I haven't had any driver issues with 64 bit.
[14:45] <bazhang> !ot | MicrosoftBil
[14:45] <theman> ok...thanx dude
[14:45] <wer_> erUSUL: No internet connection on kubuntu so how would I get build-essential ?
[14:46] <wer_> erUSUL: There's no network connection at all on kubuntu
[14:46] <ewook> wer_: get the meta-packets on another machine.
[14:46] <MicrosoftBil> ok
[14:46] <erUSUL> wer_: you use synapti to generate the script then on another linux machine you run it. then yu copy the deb over to the offline machine
[14:46] <wer_> ewook: how ?
[14:46] <RobertV> could someone autohide their taskbar panel and see if it leaves a 1-pixel border?
[14:47] <wer_> erUSUL: and I don't have another machine except a dual boot system with win7
[14:47] <ilovefairuz> RobertV: it does
[14:47] <sdk> wer_: Get it from another computer w a connection, put it on a dvd, put it in the system, mount the CD then do dpkg -i build-essentiai(rest of teh name).deb
[14:47] <bazhang> RobertV, no border here
[14:47] <phil> clear
[14:47] <phil> exit
[14:47] <TiK> heh
[14:47] <sdk> dvd or usb drive  or whatever
[14:48] <erUSUL> wer_: maybe in windows you have a download manager that can take url's from a text file ? the script it is just a text file with lines « wget url_here »
[14:48] <TiK> sdk: how would you tell  to install onto the cd/usb
[14:48] <sdk> If you plan on doing much work on the system w/ no connection, I suggest you get the entire DVD collection and add it to your sources.list
[14:48] <MicrosoftBil> bazhang: Are you always present??
[14:49] <ilovefairuz> !ot | MicrosoftBil
[14:49] <bazhang> MicrosoftBil, stay on topic please
[14:49] <MicrosoftBil> ok ok
[14:49] <TiK> sdk: chroot?
[14:49] <sdk> TiK: you're copying the .deb to thumb and sneakernetting it to the destiination machine.  That was for wer_, sorry for confustion.
[14:50] <MicrosoftBil> if I want to talk about webdesign, which chat room should i go?
[14:50] <kaushik> hi can anybody tell me  how to make a multi os  bootable dvd ,i read somewhere that it was done for 7 different os
[14:50] <TiK> sdk: i know
[14:50] <erUSUL> !html | MicrosoftBil
[14:50] <bazhang> #web or #html MicrosoftBil
[14:50] <TiK> sdk: but doesnt -i install?
[14:50] <wer_> sdk: entire DVD ? doesn't it have language packs only as a difference ?
[14:50] <MicrosoftBil> yup
[14:50] <sdk> He's trying to install build-essential onto a system w/ no internet connection, is he not?
[14:50]  * erUSUL fail
[14:50] <TiK> sdk: yes
[14:50] <TiK> sdk: but i dont follow your logic
[14:51] <TiK> erUSUL has a better solution, dk
[14:52] <TiK> sdk: doesnt dpkg -i install. how would it put the deb onto cd?
[14:52] <sdk> then, on a system w/ connection, get the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com.  copy it to thumb, walk it to the other computer, put in the thumb drive, copy the .deb to the HD and do dpkg -i build-essential*.deb.. and automagically it will iontall.
[14:52] <sdk> s/iontall/install/
[14:52] <TiK> sdk: ooh now i see :P
[14:52] <arvind_khadri> Hi, I am unable to find check_nt used in nagios, it is in nagios-plugins-basic, but am not able to use it.
[14:52] <ewook> sdk: build-essentials is a meta-package.
[14:52] <ewook> sdk: thus, not a real .deb.
[14:53] <TiK> sdk yah that would work
[14:53] <MicrosoftBil> anyone private chat on CSS???
[14:53] <bazhang> MicrosoftBil, try ##css
[14:53] <sdk> ewook: point taken.. in that case... look at the files in build essential on packages.debian.org and copy them manually.
[14:53] <Molfar> how can I add path to open_basedir directive globaly to all virtual hosts?
[14:53] <sdk> err.. ubuntu.com
[14:53] <crazier> no,I dont do that
[14:53] <ilovefairuz> kaushik: the root filesystems for live cds are now usually created of squashfs image files, so by adding the squashfs images for all the distros you want to boot and adding entries for them in the bootloader config file (syslinux or grub) you can boot mutiple OSes off the same CD or USB pendrive
[14:54] <sdk> or like I said, get the whole DVD set and add them to your sources.list
[14:54] <MicrosoftBil> i went to #php and it is empty
[14:54] <yonahw> did something replace alsa-utils in 10.04? I am trying to manually restart my sound and get cannot find job alsa-utils?
[14:54] <wer_> sdk: erUSUL Is the option for generating script there in kpackagKit ? I don't have synaptic in kubuntu ?
[14:54] <ewook> wer_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/build-essential
[14:55] <Nwab> i cannot put some files in a folder to make an iso : http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96023
[14:55] <sdk> ewook: Sorry, brain fart there.  :-/
[14:55] <mrDEMON> Ïðèâåò
[14:55] <itsux2bu> MicrosoftBil, try  ##php   with 2  #
[14:55] <mrDEMON> Ïîäñêàæèòå êàêóþ âåðñèþ ëóòøå ïîñòàâèòü?
[14:55] <itsux2bu> MicrosoftBil, there is 555 users in there
[14:55] <ilovefairuz> mrDEMON: what's your native language?
[14:55] <bazhang> !ru | mrDEMON
[14:55] <sdk> wer_: I've no idea.. never use synaptic.  Eterm and apt-get.
[14:55] <ewook> sdk: no, aacctually....
[14:56] <ewook> sdk:  pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.4_i386.deb
[14:56] <ewook> sdk: my bad.
[14:56] <erUSUL> wer_: i dunno; maybe in #kubuntu they know
[14:56] <MicrosoftBil> ok
[14:56] <wer_> sdk: erUSUL ok
[14:56] <mrDEMON> ñïàñèáî
[14:57] <ewook> sdk: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.4build1_i386.deb
[14:57] <erUSUL> !ru | mrDEMON
[14:57] <mrDEMON> íî òàì íå êîãî
[14:57] <bazhang> mrDEMON, /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:57] <wer_> ewook: Are those 5 package enough to install build-essential as I think the 4 packages on which buildessential depends might have other dependencies
[14:57] <ewook> mrDEMON: hush, please.
[14:57] <ewook> wer_: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.4build1_i386.deb
[14:57] <MicrosoftBil> in #php?
[14:57] <kaushik> ilovefairuz, is there any place where an example is set up?
[14:58] <chariotwinner> my totem doesnt play avi files which are quite some old
[14:58] <ewook> wer_: that should be enough, the meta should contain the referred packs as well
[14:58] <chariotwinner> can any 1 help
[14:58] <mrDEMON> ï
[14:58] <itsux2bu> MicrosoftBil, there's difference between  #php  and ##php
[14:58] <ewook> wer_: and I am guessing you were using 10.04 ?
[14:58] <wer_> ewook: yes
[14:58] <sdk> Kk, so now to my question... trying to get soem terms to start on workspace3 on login.  It used to be that the -D switch for Eterm would work fine, then I had to move to wmctrl, but now wmctrl is no longer working .. so.. how would I get a terminal to load on login in a paerticular workspace?
[14:58] <maritz_> Hi, I've got an ubuntu on my netbook (acer aspire one) and the battery charge is sometimes randomly registered as <1.0% (when it really isn't.) then 10-30 seconds later snaps back to the real value. this often leads to ubuntu setting my brightness to lowest and warning me of hibernating soon. is there a way to fix this? (issue is not present in windows, so it's not the battery)
[14:59] <MicrosoftBil> who is the father of UBUNTU?
[14:59] <Kitar|st> I'm hosting a Ceriatone Forum Donation Drive!!! You Can Win A Hand Wired Prinzetone Guitar Amp!!! http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1841.msg12851#msg12851 Check it out :)
[14:59] <Kitar|st> oops
[14:59] <Kitar|st> :|
[14:59] <Kitar|st> hh
[14:59] <FloodBot3> Kitar|st: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:59] <bazhang> Kitar|st, not here please
[14:59] <Kitar|st> sry
[15:00] <itsux2bu> MicrosoftBil, freenode has this silly rule that is the channel isn't an officially supported by the maker of that product.. then it has to have ## in instead of #..
[15:00] <Kitar|st> hehe
[15:00] <ilovefairuz> kaushik: It's pretty simple if you understand how a linux system is initially booted (a kernel +and initrd file) Look at the files comprising ubuntu livecd, especially the bootloader config
[15:00] <bazhang> itsux2bu, he's gone
[15:00] <nooby-doo> firefox doesnt play flash video anymore, i get a black box and nothing happens on youtube, is there a fix? i cant seem to find a forum either
[15:00] <itsux2bu> ok
[15:00] <wer_> ewook: just to confirm before I reboot my system to install that. The link you gave just now downloads 7.1 kb while the one on http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/build-essential also is of 7.1 KB. Any problems  ?
[15:00] <TiK> nooby-doo: what flash are you running
[15:00] <sdk> maritz_: I'd suggest that is may be your hardware connection, still.  Microsoft (I believe) only polls the battery ever couple of minutes, whereas (again I believe) Ubu is set to poll much more frequently.
[15:01] <gong> 你好
[15:01] <sdk> nooby-doo: get the plugin from adobe.
[15:01] <bazhang> !cn | gong
[15:01] <chariotwinner> totem in ubuntu 10.4 is corrupt
[15:01] <bazhang> wer_, that's a metapackage only
[15:01] <maritz_> sdk: do you know how i can change the polling frequency?
[15:01] <kaushik> ilovefairuz, thank you
[15:01] <nooby-doo> TiK:     File: libswfdecmozilla.so
[15:01] <nooby-doo>     Version:
[15:01] <nooby-doo>     Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999
[15:02] <TiK> nooby-doo: I think the latest flash is 10 something
[15:02] <sdk> maritz_: No idea, sorry man, I remember reading it in a forum somewhere.
[15:02] <wer_> bazhang: no dependencies at all then ? I need to do dpkg -i path/to/.debfile
[15:02] <wer_> ?
[15:02] <gong> #ubuntu-cn
[15:02] <ilovefairuz> gong: write: /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:02] <nooby-doo> TiK: how do i update this?
[15:02] <maritz_> sdk: i read of a few people with very similar problems but absolutely no solutions were offered. :(
[15:02] <sdk> wer_: Really, man, FTP the whole Ubuntu install.  You're goign to be MUCH b etter off that way.
[15:02] <bazhang> wer_, quite the contrary; check them at packages.ubuntu.com  (red for depends iirc)
[15:02] <wer_> bzrk: ewook Am i Right ? only dpkg -i path/to/.debfile needs to be done to install it ?
[15:02] <TiK> nooby-doo: tools/add-ons/update
[15:02] <gong> join #ubuntu-cn
[15:02] <sdk> maritz_: Hrm.. one sec.
[15:03] <wer_> sdk: how ?
[15:03] <bazhang> wer_, do you have an ubuntu machine now? ie one online?
[15:03] <ilovefairuz> gong: /join
[15:04] <wer_> bazhang: no :(. Can be on a kubuntu one in 2 minutes
[15:04] <bazhang> wer_, same thing, use aptoncd
[15:04] <bazhang> !aptoncd | wer_
[15:04] <wer_> bazhang: but that would be 32 bit machine and I need to run it on 64 bit
[15:05] <wer_> bazhang: ah but I have installed a 32 bit OS only
[15:05] <wer_> !offline
[15:08] <sdk> wer_: wow, not easy.. debian has the whole thing. Oh, there you go.. :)
[15:08] <sdk> maritz_: Still checking.
[15:08] <maritz_> :D
[15:08] <maritz_> awesome
[15:08] <itsux2bu> i'm liking this ubuntu.. after figuring out how to make, by myself mind you, a hybrid server/desktop version of ubuntu.. i now have the best of both worlds.. hey you never know i might make ubuntu my main OS..
[15:09] <julius__> quieor entrar en una sala en español
[15:09] <ilovefairuz> !es | julius__
[15:10] <sdk> maritz_: Sorry man, looks like a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/555531
[15:10] <maritz_> okay, thanks :)
[15:11] <sdk> itsux2bu: That's great.  Proud of you.  Keep plugging away.
[15:11] <sdk> I may have missed a response, so I'ma repost, sorry for spam:
[15:12] <sdk> Kk, so now to my question... trying to get soem terms to start on workspace3 on login.  It used to be that the -D switch for Eterm would work fine, then I had to move to wmctrl, but now wmctrl is no longer working .. so.. how would I get a terminal to load on login in a paerticular workspace?
[15:12] <wer_> ewook: erUSUL its blank: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aptoncd/files/
[15:12] <wer_> bazhang: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aptoncd/files/  it's blank
[15:13] <bazhang> wer_, aptoncd from the repos
[15:13] <nooby-doo> ya dude somethings seriously wrong with firefox .. now it hangs everytime theres a flash video
[15:13] <erUSUL> wer_: aptoncd wont help you if you do not have access to another ubuntu machine
[15:13] <erUSUL> wer_: with inet conection.
[15:13] <peaces> how can i change the default editor to vim in a non-interactive way (for a bash script)? sudo update-alternatives --config editor does it interactively...
[15:13] <bazhang> wer_, if you have a net connection on another ubuntu/kubuntu/etc machine you can use it
[15:13] <wer_> erUSUL: Now I have access to another kubuntu machine with an internet connection. So do I need to sudo apt-get aptoncd ?
[15:14] <bazhang> wer_, with the install
[15:14] <erUSUL> wer_: yes;
[15:14] <bazhang> wer_, sudo apt-get install aptoncd
[15:14] <wer_> h ok
[15:14] <bazhang> wer_, then install build-essential on that machine
[15:15] <bazhang> wer_, and use aptoncd to create the repo from what you have installed
[15:16] <peaces> found the answer to my question: export EDITOR=/usr/bin/myeditor http://superuser.com/questions/168702/how-do-i-change-the-default-text-editor-in-ubuntu
[15:16] <sdk> peaces: I misunderstood you.. the easiest way is from teh CLI - set -o vi
[15:17] <sdk> or if you want it permanent, set it in your .profile or /etc/profile same line set -o vi
[15:17] <sdk> Oh, sorry I ws still misunderstanding you.. ignore me.
[15:18] <imfede> i need help. when i plug in my wirless belkin card the whole ubuntu crashes and i need to restart the whole computer. with ubu 9.10 it works but when i upgrade to 10.04 it begins to crash :( help me!
[15:18] <bazhang> imfede, hotplug? while computer is turned on? usb or pcmcia
[15:19] <smallfoot-> luckily in two months there will be a 10.10
[15:19] <bazhang> smallfoot-, ?
[15:19] <smallfoot-> bazhang, if 9.10 works, 10.04 broken, then maybe 10.04 fixed again
[15:20] <imfede> bazhang:  really idk its a belkin F5D7010
[15:20] <chariotwinner> what is alternative for gdmflexiserver
[15:21] <chariotwinner> or how could i install gdmflexiserver
[15:21] <bazhang> imfede, is it an external or builtin
[15:21] <imfede> bazhang:  external...
[15:22] <qwd> Hi, I want to install Ubuntu to a laptop without a cd drive. I have a desktop with Debian Squeeze and a partition with Windows 7 (with no network). What would be the easiest way?
[15:22] <bazhang> imfede, paste.ubuntu.com with the output of lsusb and give us the url
[15:22] <bazhang> qwd, can boot from usb flash?
[15:22] <wer_> ewook: erUSUL I have synaptic on another machine(kubuntu) so generating a script from there and installing the deb on my machine would work ?
[15:22] <wer_> or would I need aptoncd only
[15:22] <erUSUL> wer_: aptoncd only should work. they are alternative methods
[15:23] <imfede> bazhang: i have the lspci output... its not an usb key
[15:23] <wer_> erUSUL: ok, well I generated the script also. it's of no use then ?
[15:23] <bazhang> imfede, its external and pci?
[15:23] <qwd> bazhang: not sure. I thought the instructions for usb install seemed a bit complicated but if that's the easiest way I guess I need to go for it.
[15:23] <erUSUL> wer_: yes; if you use aptoncd you do not need the script
[15:24] <bazhang> qwd, most recent computers can, unetbootin can do that
[15:24] <wer_> erUSUL: ah I meanI generated the script on another machine using synaptic
[15:24] <bazhang> qwd, quite straightforward actually
[15:24] <sdk> bazhang: Can't he just run the installer from within windows and choose to isntallnext to the W7 install?
[15:25] <imfede> bazhang:  i know that is external and someone has asked me a lspci output...
[15:25] <bazhang> sdk, I dont recommend wubi installs
[15:25] <gravyface> anyone running 10.04 LTS?
[15:25] <sreeju> i have downloaded google earth. but it is .bin file .. how to install?
[15:25] <sdk> bazhang: Kk, just asking, nevr done myself..
[15:25] <qwd> bazhang: Ah, thanks, I was going to try usb-creator mentioned in the wiki but that's not in the Debian repo. unetbootin is though.
[15:25] <bazhang> imfede, both then please  lsusb and lspci
[15:25] <sreeju> please help
[15:25] <bazhang> !googleearth > sreeju
[15:26] <imfede> bazhang:  wait a min i restart the pc with a live cd
[15:26] <MasterRoot> hello, is there anyway to change the buffer size for track playback in rhythmbox?
[15:27] <sreeju> yes i have downloaded . but how to install?
[15:27] <sdk> !googleearth
[15:28] <sreeju> please tell how to install from the bin file
[15:28] <sdk> sreeju: from terminal: man man, man chmod, man chown
[15:29] <sreeju> what to type in terminal
[15:29] <bazhang> sdk, thats not needed
[15:29] <bazhang> sreeju, just a moment
[15:29] <sreeju> ok
[15:30] <MasterRoot> how about the buffer/cache size that samba client uses?
[15:31] <imfede> bazhang:  http://imfede.pastebin.com/bYe2ezyd it's the lspci
[15:33] <bazhang> imfede, and lsusb please
[15:33] <acidflash> hrmm
[15:33] <acidflash> ext 3 data=writeback and ext 4 data=writeback
[15:34] <acidflash> is there an improvement in performance from 3 to 4 with this same command ?
[15:34] <sreeju> answer me
[15:34] <imfede> bazhang:  okok
[15:34] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[15:34] <sreeju> please
[15:34] <wer_> ewook: erUSUL bazhang I tried aptoncd, but it doesn't show build-essential in package list
[15:35] <afeijo> anyone using virtualbox with dual monitor?
[15:36] <bazhang> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/08/install-google-earth-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/  sreeju using the medibuntu repos
[15:36] <sreeju> how?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> wer_, enable other software sources and canonical partners in your package manager then sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[15:36] <Nic_> Hello?
[15:36] <bazhang> sreeju, see that link?
[15:36] <djshotglass> hi, i installed wicd because i wanted better wireless managment but only to find out it sucks even more than what comes with 10.03 so i removed wicd and now have nothing how to i get the default back?
[15:36] <sreeju> ok wait
[15:37] <djshotglass> 10.04*
[15:37] <Nic_> I wanted to know how to create a separate partition for my music and videos and such while reinstalling ubuntu?
[15:37] <wastl> sreeju: to run a binary file it has either to be executable for you or to be capsulated in a shellscript
[15:37] <indigo> update-manager, on my upgrade to 9.10, is stuck at "Processing triggers for menu ..." Any idea how to get it unstuck?
[15:37] <bazhang> Nic_, separate home?
[15:38] <wer_> BluesKaj: they are already selected
[15:38] <bazhang> indigo, let it run; how long has it been
[15:38] <jenda> Nic_: don't do it :) I've had that on a previous installation and it's just too inconvenient.
[15:38] <indigo> bazhang: about 90 minutes.
[15:38] <Nic_> bazhang: I suppose, I just want to use the partition as a "backup" that will be removed later
[15:38] <indigo> bazhang: also, there is no CPU or disk activity.
[15:38] <wastl> sreeju: if so you coud run it with ./binaryfile  (if executable binary) or sh binfile.sh (if a shellscript encapsulated one)
[15:38] <jenda> Nic_: sooner or later, you will need some of that HDD space for something else, or your music/videos won't fit there, and you won't be able to reassign those gigabytes.
[15:38] <bazhang> !home | nic_ check this then perhaps
[15:39] <imfede> bazhang:  http://imfede.pastebin.com/VJ5m3F5Z lsusbi
[15:39] <BluesKaj> wer_, try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:39] <wer_> BluesKaj: says already installed
[15:39] <jenda> Nic_: of course, if it's for backup, or if you want to have your entire /home on a separate partition (which is more than reasonable) see the link from ubottu.
[15:39] <Nic_> jenda: I dont really have any other choice. I need to reinstall, and I cant afford any other means of backup, but I want to keep my home folder
[15:39] <Nic_> Oh, I see
[15:40] <Nic_> 'Let me try
[15:40] <afeijo> my ubuntu isnt loading, how can I abort the graphic mode and load the text mode?
[15:40] <bazhang> RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)  imfede checked in hardware drivers for a driver for this?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> wer_, so what are you trying to do then ?
[15:41] <wastl> afeijo: if it automatically goes to graphical mode you have to force it into text mode
[15:41] <wer_> BluesKaj: I want to include buid-essential to my apton cd image
[15:41] <imfede> bazhang:  well in 9.10 it works without the installation of any driver... where i can check the list of drivers?
[15:41] <afeijo> wastl: yes how?
[15:41] <wastl> afeijo: you have to edit the grub settings at runtime since this can only be forced via kernel parameter
[15:41] <sdk> apt-file build-essential
[15:41] <djshotglass> hi, i installed wicd because i wanted better wireless managment but only to find out it sucks even more than what comes with 10.04 so i removed wicd and now have nothing how to i get the default back?
[15:41] <sdk> whoops, sorry.
[15:42] <afeijo> wastl: any key to make it wait for my choice?
[15:42] <bazhang> imfede, that's odd does ifconfig show wlan0 or ra0 ath0 or something similar?
[15:42] <indigo> afeijo: or maybe, depending on what you mean by "does'nt load", you can just hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a tty.
[15:42] <gionnico> hi
[15:42] <wastl> afeijo: however is it just X.org not working properly? Then you could just use ctrl+alt+F1 to change to tty1 to get a shell
[15:42] <wer_> sdk ?
[15:42] <gionnico> damn safely remove hardware!!
[15:42] <gionnico> you should redirect me to the right place
[15:42] <afeijo> wastl: I had no xorg.conf, I created it and rebooted
[15:42] <gionnico> i think it's gnome-2.30?
[15:42] <Nic_> jenda: It isn't giving me the choice to resize the partition
[15:42] <gionnico> or is it new udev?
[15:42] <Nic_> It is all blanked out
[15:43] <gionnico> that introduced the "safely remove hardware" for USB sticks, memory cards, cd roms?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> djshotglass, did you remove network manager when you installed wicd
[15:43] <gionnico> you have now 2 choices: safely remove or eject
[15:43] <imfede> bazhang:  ifconfig shows a lot of thing... want to pastebin even the ifconfig output?
[15:43] <wastl> afeijo: no chance except having several grub entries with several parameter configs
[15:43] <bazhang> imfede, please
[15:43] <djshotglass> BluesKaj, no
[15:43] <gionnico> that is nonsense. eject usb pen drive??! safely remove "cd rom?" "cd hard drive?!"
[15:43] <afeijo> wastl: ctrl+alt+F1 didnt work
[15:43] <imfede> bazhang:  ok
[15:43] <gionnico> i really feel bad for those regressions that always occour
[15:43] <TiK> Nic_: you cnt mount a hard drive that is inuse boot from a livecd to resize
[15:43] <bazhang> !enter | gionnico
[15:43] <BluesKaj> djshotglass, then it should be listed in apps
[15:43] <TiK> nic: sorry its early
[15:43] <Nic_> TiK: I am running from a live CD
[15:43] <SuperMiguel> which DE or WM do you guys recommend when running ubuntu on a Virtual Machine, or a 13 inch laptop?
[15:43] <Nic_> TiK: I am using Gparted
[15:43] <TiK> Nic_: make sure its not mounted...
[15:44] <Nic_> TiK: And it wont let me change anything
[15:44] <wastl> afeijo: then its obivously stuck somewhere...you may have to force it then
[15:44] <TiK> Nic_: make sure you chose the right partition
[15:44] <Nic_> Ahhm that might be it
[15:44] <Nic_> One sec
[15:44] <gionnico> BEFORE there was umount (right click). or you could click the eject icon in nautilus: it still was the SAME FKN cmmand: umount
[15:44] <afeijo> wastl: how can I force it ? :)
[15:44] <sdk> wer_: just trying to see what debws are in build esential so you can download them individuallly..
[15:44] <bazhang> gionnico, watch the language
[15:44] <gionnico> NOW right click on media (nautilus) tell you so ** many options
[15:44] <sdk> wrong termknal
[15:44] <bazhang> gionnico, file a bug then. complaining will get you nothing
[15:44] <wer_> sdk: ok, thanks
[15:44] <gionnico> bazhang: i'm asking redirect me to the right place plz
[15:44] <wastl> afeijo: get into grub menue (shoud work by pressing ESC on bootup if its not displayed by default)
[15:44] <gionnico> i dont know who to get angry with
[15:45] <bazhang> !bugs | gionnico
[15:45] <Nic_> What the heck?
[15:45] <Nic_> I can't unmount it
[15:45] <qwd> Which version should I choose in UNetbootin if I want to install ubuntu-10.04.1-alternate-i386 ? There's only 10.04_Life 10.04_HdMedia and 10.04_NetInstall. Does it matter?
[15:45] <wastl> afeijo: then higlight the entry you want to boot and press 'e' for edit
[15:45] <bazhang> gionnico, this is the wrong place. file a bug.
[15:45] <Nic_> It says "error org.freedesktop.hal.device.interfacelocked.
[15:45] <Nic_> The hal freaks me out 0_o
[15:45] <BluesKaj> wer_, you shouldn't worry about not have build-essential unless  your gonna be without internet access
[15:46] <bazhang> BluesKaj, he is
[15:46] <wastl> afeijo: then find the line including root=/somepartition
[15:46] <imfede> bazhang: it restart autmoatically!
[15:46] <bazhang> BluesKaj, trying to get build-essential
[15:46] <gionnico> bazhang: ok thanks
[15:46] <wer_> BluesKaj: I want to install build-essential on a machine that's without internet connection.
[15:46] <Nic_> I can't unmount this drive for some reason
[15:46] <wastl> afeijo: edit this line and append 'init=3' to it and then boot
[15:46] <tynot> greetings! can anyone advise how to install a gui, ala kde, onto unbuntu server 10.04.1? we've someone offsite who wants to use terminal services into our server. does kde, or a reasonable equivalent, come with the ubuntu server iso?
[15:47] <SuperMiguel> which DE or WM do you guys recommend when running ubuntu on a Virtual Machine, or a 13 inch laptop?
[15:47] <qwd> Sorry, I didn't read the install notes, it says I should use HdMedia. Shame on me.
[15:47] <Nic_> In the "details" it says "the enclosing drive for the volume is locked"
[15:47] <TiK> Nic: i think yo chose the wrong one..
[15:47] <Nic_> No, that is the main one
[15:47] <TiK> Nic_: /dev/sda ?
[15:47] <Nic_> It is where my existing stuff is
[15:48] <afeijo> ok esc helped, it offered to restore and restarted X, it worked :) thanks wastl
[15:48] <afeijo> now I need to make it use my 2 screens, I'm using a virtual ubuntu with virtualbox
[15:48] <afeijo> do I need to edit xorg.conf ?
[15:48] <Untouchab1e_> So, Ive been googling this and no one seems to have a good answer..
[15:48] <TiK> Nic_: ?
[15:48] <Nic_> I got it unmounted
[15:49] <Untouchab1e_> Why do you need both "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" on a USB memory stick in Ubuntu 10.04?
[15:49] <TiK> uhm ok
[15:49] <Untouchab1e_> is there any difference between them?
[15:49] <TiK> Untouchab1e_: not really
[15:49] <wastl> afeijo: Splitscreen is a setting of the graphics driver....for my Nvidia card the nvidia setup gui does that
[15:49] <Untouchab1e_> TiK: then it seems redundant to have them both
[15:49] <indigo> tynot: what do you mean by "terminal services"?
[15:49] <TiK> Untouchab1e_: w/e
[15:49] <OerHeks>  Untouchab1e_ safely remove, it checks if any files are open
[15:50] <afeijo> wastl: but to virtualbox that should not be the case... its probably manual
[15:50] <Untouchab1e_> Microsoft had them both back in the day too.. while Ubuntu didnt.. now it seems the tables have turned >_<
[15:50] <spunk> Hello! Are there any available on-line defrag tool for ext4?
[15:50] <BSaboia> hi guys
[15:50] <Untouchab1e_> OerHeks: so why use "eject" then?
[15:50] <Speiros> For fucks sake
[15:50] <mayhew> Hello!
[15:50] <bazhang> spunk, not needed
[15:50] <bazhang> Speiros, watch the language
[15:50] <spunk> bazhang, sure?
[15:50] <BSaboia> I've just installed Ubuntu server, annd I'm struggling to configure SAMBA
[15:50] <OerHeks> Ubunturific, only if you are sure there is no file/window using it.
[15:50] <tynot> indigo, advice on virtual GUI shell (ala kde) for ubuntu server. does the server install iso come with a desktop package?
[15:50] <imfede> bazhang:  http://imfede.pastebin.com/e7nN8KG6
[15:50] <BSaboia> I can create a share, but can't set permissions
[15:51] <BSaboia> at leas WRITE permissions
[15:51] <BSaboia> I can read the folder, but can't Write to it...
[15:51] <wastl> afeijo: you mean virual desktops in your X.org?
[15:51] <mayhew> if im updatinog from 9.10 to 10.04 will my setings and programs be messed with?
[15:51] <mayhew> updating
[15:51] <afeijo> wastl: no, 2 monitors, 2 screens
[15:51] <indigo> tynot: whether the iso comes with it or not, kde is downloadable and installable with whatever package management tool you like. Not sure kde is what you want, though.
[15:51] <afeijo> wastl: but I just found out that virtualbox dont support it to linux yet, only windows :(
[15:51] <wastl> kk
[15:52] <sdk> spunk: EXT4 is VERY good at avoiding disk fragmentation.  every 40 reboots or so, your system will do a check disk automagically.  Otherwise google e[3~d