[12:01] <Zano> Radeon x1900xtx, Core2Duo, Asus p5b motherboard and a Seagata barracuda HDD, Burnt the Ubuntu ISO to a disk and booted from it, chose "Start or install Ubuntu" was treated with the loadingscreen, which stayed the same for five minutes, then froze.. What did I do wrong? I did a Md5 checksum on the ISO, no issue there.
[12:01] <jvai> lol.. word
[12:01] <__Lamont__> Skaag: lol.. yeah. I was hoping that I could just boot it - have new MB/CPU/RAM here, but BIOS isn't finding the OS
[12:01] <Pollywog> Jenn is this a laptop?
[12:01] <ubuntu> change cd rom?
[12:01] <hateyla> Frogzoo,  no one have fastest connection here..
[12:01] <Zenerek> hateyla order a cd
[12:02] <Zano> Ugh.  I'll have to try again tomorrow.
[12:02] <__Lamont__> Anyone now how to repair a bad / missing Bootloader?
[12:02] <Frogzoo> !grub > __Lamont__
[12:02] <ubuntu> don't bur on max speed
[12:02] <ubuntu> don't burn on max speed
[12:02] <Skaag> __Lamont__: just pop an ubuntu cd into the drive
[12:02] <hateyla> Zenerek,  from where ? ubuntu.com ?
[12:02] <Skaag> __Lamont__: and re-grub it
[12:02] <dougie> how do you add support for wma's?
[12:02] <Pollywog> the day Geeksquad supports Linux I think some of you have jobs there ;)
[12:02] <Zano> I didnt. I burned on 2.4x to make sure it would work Ubugtu.
[12:02] <Zano> *ubuntu
[12:03] <Skaag> Pollywog: they wouldn't be able to afford my salary though!
[12:03] <Noah0504> Eww, WMA is a nasty codec.
[12:03] <crdlb> dougie, are they DRM'ed ?
[12:03] <amayera> aloha
[12:03] <dougie> .....i don't think so
[12:03] <ubuntu> maybe cd drive  have error
[12:03] <Skaag> dougie: Is it Charles Asnavour?
[12:03] <crdlb> dougie, where'd you get them?
[12:03] <Zano> doubt it.. has worked fine for everything sofar.
[12:03] <__Lamont__> Frogzoo, Skaag: Thanks... I must have installed GRUB somewhere other than the MBR or something, new MB not seeing GRUB. Thanks, I'll try that
[12:03] <Skaag> dougie: Did you steal them with P2P???!!
[12:03] <dougie> bit torrent
[12:03] <Skaag> you bastard
[12:03] <Skaag> just kidding ;-)
[12:03] <dougie> nooo
[12:03] <dougie> lol
[12:03] <crdlb> lol
[12:03] <amayera> how is it planned as soon as the next LTS version comes out can I directly upgrade from dapper to LTS+1 or do I have to take all steps?
[12:04] <crdlb> dougie, you need to install w32codecs
[12:04] <Zano> well ill give up for today.
[12:04] <Skaag> amayera: directly upgrade
[12:04] <crdlb> I guess
[12:04] <Zenerek> not sure but i think so, I remember that they only charge for shipping and depending on where you are you may need to let you local post office know what you're getting
[12:04] <dougie> apt-get install w32codecs?
[12:04] <crdlb> dougie, I don't think it's in any of ubuntu's repos
[12:04] <amayera> Skaag: ok. good to hear. thanks.
[12:04] <Skaag> dougie: it's not as simple as that I think you need some non-free repositories added to your sources.list
[12:04] <ubuntu> my dvd drive won't boot suse linux, but second dvd drive works fine
[12:04] <Pollywog> dougie: but one needs to add medibuntu
[12:04] <crdlb> !info w32codecs
[12:04] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:04] <Skaag> amayera: also it's the general policy to allow this kinda thing... i've been upgrading since 5.10 smoothly
[12:05] <dougie> ....wth does that mean
[12:05] <Pollywog> medibuntu to their sources.list
[12:05] <dougie> ok
[12:05] <Pollywog> to get the codecs
[12:05] <amayera> Skaag: yeah, sure from one release to another was never a problem, but skipping releases sure is.
[12:05] <cjlowe> GAH!!!! ifdown eth0 KILLED SSHD! I'M CONNECTED VIA ETH1!!! THIS IS IN ALL CAPITALS!!!111zlolz
[12:05] <Skaag> amayera: i've never tried skipping releases...
[12:06] <cafuego_> cjlowe: Put down the prozac and step away...
[12:06] <Frogzoo> cjlowe: maybe sshd binds to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:06] <harking> is there a guide to getting lm-sensors working in eft?
[12:06] <harking> i've tried the ubuntuguide.org one and it failed to work
[12:06] <cjlowe> Frogzoo, maybe, but that's no need to kill it :)
[12:07] <Marupa> where are the alsa libs located?
[12:07] <Pollywog> or else the sshd config is using a list of allowed logins
[12:07] <Pollywog> if there is even one login specified, all others are disallowed
[12:08] <dauoalagio1> hello, i "apt-get install apache2" and it installed correctly but i cannot connect to http://localhost and after a /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it says "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName"
[12:08] <Pollywog> Marupa: dpkg -L <packagename>
[12:08] <Frogzoo> harking: lm-sensors is broken for many atm
[12:08] <cafuego_> dauoalagio1: it says that, but it *is8 running.
[12:08] <harking> Frogzoo: eta of fawn?
[12:08] <_mitch_> can someone help me setup my HP PSC 2110 scanner, I've got the pritner working with the hpijs driver but scanning won't work.
[12:09] <bacho> :PPP hell!
[12:09] <dauoalagio1> cafuego, what?
[12:09] <JaheeM> Hi
[12:09] <bacho> heellO!
[12:09] <JaheeM> :)
[12:09] <Frogzoo> !feisty > harking
[12:09] <dougie> ok so now i should be able to apt-get the w32codecs?
[12:09] <bacho> whta do you suggest me aiglx+beryl or xgl+beryl on a 9200se ati!!!???
[12:09] <harry__> my DST is messed up
[12:09] <harking> Frogzoo: it was more of a question of will it be fixed in fiesty, ;)
[12:10] <ESN|Ducky^ex> ;o
[12:10] <eternalswd> anyone know how to get SciTE to not clear the selection buffer on a left click, makes it kind of useless imo?
[12:10] <bacho> !!!???
[12:10] <Ducky> zomg
[12:10] <Ducky> so many people
[12:10] <trond> bacho: Xgl, as far as I know you don't have a choice with ati :\ I am in that pain myself
[12:10] <Pyotr> hey, could somebody tell me what I'd use to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10/
[12:10] <Pyotr> ?
[12:10] <makuseru> how do i fix the problem of flash objects in webpages being ontop of everything else?
[12:11] <hateyla> Where i can edit the source.list file?
[12:11] <Ducky> me = nub, getting ubuntu, are there any drivers i need from xp for ubuntu ?
[12:11] <trond> bachi: unless you use the oss drivers. But they are dead slow on my x700.
[12:11] <dauoalagio1> Pyotr, sudo "update-manager -c" with quotes
[12:11] <bacho> thanks trond !! ima ctually using aiglx but i wanted to knew
[12:11] <Pollywog> Pyotr: I just edited sources.list
[12:11] <thespore> hateyla, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:11] <rob-west> can someone help me with apache
[12:11] <trond> bacho: If you use the prop driver you have to go with xgl that is
[12:11] <hateyla> ahh in apt folder :/
[12:11] <Pollywog> replaced the "dapper" with "edgy"
[12:11] <bacho> hateyla sude gdeit etc/apt/sources.list ;)
[12:11] <hateyla> thespore,  ok.
[12:11] <bacho> o.o already asnwered sorry
[12:11] <Pollywog> I don't know the right way just the polllywog way
[12:11] <gasman> hi all
[12:12] <Ducky> is there anyone that can help me through the installation ?
[12:12] <thespore> are the repos going slow for anyone else?
[12:12] <MarcM> Ducky: is this a desktop install?
[12:12] <will> How can I set the  login scripts to default or reset Dbus-daemon or dbus-settings to default?
[12:12] <thespore> i'm getting like 15-25k
[12:12] <Ducky> Yes
[12:12] <Pyotr> dauoalagio1:  sudo: update-manager -c: command not found
[12:12] <MarcM> then, no, you shouldn't need anything from windows
[12:12] <dauoalagio1> pyotr, did you put quotation marks around update-manager -c
[12:12] <gasman> hi everyone
[12:12] <Ducky> 64 bit installation ?
[12:12] <Pyotr> yes
[12:13] <bacho> "c is not like windows its hd1
[12:13] <bacho> or hda
[12:13] <__Lamont__> Skaag: If it helps, I found one pic from that install of the partitions screen that showed hda and hdb as prim / slave, set as type "RAID" and then it showed RAID1 devices below it
[12:13] <cjlowe> regarding my post... nvm, i was connected via eth0... eth1 was the other network... :( whole network down!
[12:13] <Pollywog> thespore sometimes they do that, but use the IRI's for your area
[12:13] <dauoalagio1> pyotr, woops one second.
[12:13] <MarcM> although, if your planning to remove the xp partition, you should backup your files
[12:13] <__Lamont__> I don't know for sure if that's the attempt that worked or not :p
[12:13] <Pollywog> URI's
[12:13] <thespore> Pollywog, IRI?
[12:13] <Pollywog> URI
[12:13] <MarcM> Ducky: i don't typically recommend 64 bit
[12:13] <Pollywog> or URL's
[12:13] <thespore> Pollywog, okay I'm in US.. so archive.ubuntu.org?
[12:13] <hateyla> is anyhave dapper source.list file with all repos ? Universe, Restricted, multiverse and others? so plz pastebin it.
[12:13] <eternalswd> Pyotr, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227052
[12:13] <thespore> Pollywog, err .com
[12:13] <awilcox> Hello.
[12:13] <dauoalagio1> Pyotr: gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:14] <Pollywog> thespore: am in US too but I had to change mine
[12:14] <Pyotr> dauoalagio1: never mind, I just made myself root and did update-manager -c
[12:14] <linuxnewbie756> i can't install the new version of wine
[12:14] <Pyotr> dauoalagio1: thanks anyway :)
[12:14] <bimberi> !easysource | hateyla
[12:14] <ubotu> hateyla: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:14] <linuxnewbie756> using edgy
[12:14] <thespore> Pollywog, where can i find alternative URIs?
[12:14] <dauoalagio1> Pyotr, it's all the same ;)
[12:14] <netham45> yay!
[12:14] <netham45> school closed for 2 more days!
[12:14] <p47> hello. do you know if I can get cpanel, ensim or plesk free ?
[12:14] <will> How can I set the  login scripts to default or reset Dbus-daemon or dbus-settings to default?
[12:14] <awilcox> I have just installed Netscape 7.02 on my Ubuntu Dapper 6.06.1.  It will run as root "sudo /usr/local/netscape7/netscape" but if I try and run it as a normal user "/usr/local/netscape7/netscape" it will not start.
[12:14] <hateyla> bimberi,  thankyou.
[12:14] <Pollywog> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ is what I used
[12:14] <Pollywog> I just assed the "us"
[12:14] <bimberi> hateyla: yw :)
[12:14] <Flannel> thespore: Same place.  Just have to do some digging now.  Click the "additional options" at the bottom, then "more install options" on a particular mirror
[12:14] <Pollywog> oops
[12:14] <Pollywog> added
[12:15] <thespore> Pollywog, thanks
[12:15] <Pollywog> sorry
[12:15] <awilcox> What should I do?
[12:15] <p47> is ti possible to get cpanel, plesk or ensim free ? someting like a torrent or someting ?
[12:15] <bacho> awilcox change permicions to 77
[12:15] <bacho> 777*
[12:15] <awilcox> bacho: I have already done   sudo chmod 777 * -R   in the /usr/local/netscape7 folder.
[12:15] <linuxnewbie756> i get this message when trying to install the newest wine in edgy. "The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[12:15] <linuxnewbie756> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:15] <linuxnewbie756>   wine: Depends: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 is to be installed
[12:15] <linuxnewbie756>         Depends: libgphoto2-port0 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 is to be installed"
[12:16] <bacho> o.o then i dont have any idea change it to home maybe?
[12:16] <Ducky> < Technologyu
[12:16] <_seanc_> I have a question about manually setting resolutions and refresh rates.  I have a CRT monitor and I already set it up to allow me to use 1280x1024 but it defaults to 60 refresh and that gives me a terrible headache, how do I change the refresh?
[12:16] <Ducky> < Technology and typing
[12:16] <frenzy> can anyone hellp me with some networkign issues????
[12:16] <eternalswd> p47, this is not the place to ask about illegal torrents
[12:16] <bacho> seanc use xorg.conf
[12:16] <sethk> frenzy, ask, and you'll find out
[12:16] <thespore> Flannel, you talking about using synaptic?
[12:16] <_seanc_> bacho: I already used it to change the resolution, how do I change the refresh?
[12:17] <Flannel> thespore: eh?  Wait, alternate to what?  thought you meant alt. CD
[12:17] <frenzy> well im trying to share my net with one network card... how would i do it
[12:17] <Jenn> HELP - I am on the configuring xserver xorg menu. I don't know what is my -bit color setting for the monitor.
[12:17] <sethk> _seanc_, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  At the monitor section, choose the "middle" level of specification.  Then choose the resolution including the refresh
[12:17] <MarcM> Ducky: here an excellent installation walk-through, start to finish
[12:17] <MarcM> http://howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu6.10
[12:17] <Jenn> What do I pick?
[12:17] <p47> eternalswd, come one !
[12:17] <bacho> look for numbrers in 12*24*32 and change it i dont remember exactly
[12:17] <thespore> Flannel, apt repos
[12:17] <hateyla> how can i replace my source.list file with new one?
[12:17] <_seanc_> ok sethk
[12:17] <Flannel> thespore: ah, just... add them.
[12:17] <Skaag> anyone knows of a howto for installing a clean ubuntu but with raid1?
[12:17] <Louey> hmm. anyone using KVIrc? trying to double click that link posted above and it gave me a failed to execute command 'kfmclient' in script context "openurl::handler:, line 1 character 1
[12:17] <dougie> ...those medibuntu servers seem a bit slow
[12:18] <Marupa> Hey, uhm....I'm trying to install darkice with alsa support, but I can't figure out where to point the configuration, /usr and /usr/lib both seem to be missing the required libraries or something.
[12:18] <Jenn> what setting should I choose for for bit color?
[12:18] <bacho> hateyla open coy and pase :)
[12:18] <thespore> Flannel, the default repos or going slow.. was wondering about alternatives... trying us.archive.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com
[12:18] <awilcox> Marupa: /usr/local/lib?
[12:18] <frenzy> sethk: well im trying to share my net with one network card... how would i do it
[12:18] <Marupa> I'll try that
[12:18] <Sp4rKy> dougie: hmm ? what about medibuntu servers ?
[12:18] <sethk> frenzy, I'm not quite sure what you mean.  Be more specific
[12:18] <bacho> frebzy set your ubuntu as server maybe?
[12:19] <Marupa> awilcox, nada.
[12:19] <dougie> Sp4rKy: only downloading at like 15 kB/s
[12:19] <bimberi> hateyla: 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' in a terminal.  THis runs the editor with superuser privs so you can modify it
[12:19] <twinrox> I am looking for a very good system administrator (Unix) Linux-HPUX from Canada willing to travel on a longterm mandate in the UK (1 or 2 years) in a formula 1 team. Very serious . 3-5 years experience with very good condition.
[12:19] <dougie> Sp4rKy: kind of slow lol
[12:19] <Sp4rKy> dougie: ohhh , not normal
[12:19] <Sp4rKy> dougie: do you know the ip ?
[12:19] <Ducky> is Ubuntu going to automatically locate the drivers for my components ?
[12:19] <bacho> twunrox is a spamer!
[12:19] <awilcox> twinrox: An F1 team?  Which one?
[12:19] <Flannel> MarcM Ducky: that's actually a rather poor place for Ubuntu howtos
[12:19] <thespore> Ducky, it will attempt to
[12:19] <dougie> Sp4rKy: got it off the webpage... medibuntu.sos-sts.com
[12:20] <awilcox> So does anybody else have any idea why Netscape will only run if it is as root?
[12:20] <eternalswd> bimberi and hateyla, gksu is preferred to sudo for gui apps
[12:20] <twinrox> awilcox : come in private only if you are interessested
[12:20] <Sp4rKy> dougie: no, i want the ip of your actual connec
[12:20] <dougie> oh
[12:20] <frenzy> sethk: there are 5 pcs in my house.. the net comes thru a d-link modem to a switch hub to me and then to everyone else.. at least on windows it was like that.. now im trying to do the same with ubuntu .. and i cant just use the modem as a router becaouse of loopback issues... my flatmates area addicted to warcraft and they cant play with each other on line with the modem being the router...
[12:20] <Sp4rKy> the ip of mediibuntu server of course dougie
[12:20] <awilcox> twinrox: I am in the US, and don't like to travel, so no.  But thanks for the offer.
[12:21] <Ducky> will i be able to play windows baised games (IE Run Steam, and Lineage 2 ?)
[12:21] <_seanc_> sethk: what was that command again, sorry :|
[12:21] <bimberi> eternalswd: yes, or gksudo
[12:21] <Zijan>     no
[12:21] <awilcox> Ducky: WineX may be able to do it.
[12:21] <sethk> _seanc_, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  At the monitor section, choose the "middle" level of specification.  Then choose the resolution including the refresh
[12:21] <_seanc_> thank you
[12:21] <dougie> Sp4rKy: <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:21] <thespore> Ducky: check cedega as well
[12:21] <Sp4rKy> dougie: that's your ip i gues
[12:21] <sethk> frenzy, you said only one network card, though.  How is the modem connected?
[12:21] <Sp4rKy> dougie: not those of medibuntu serv
[12:21] <dougie> Sp4rKy: ??
[12:21] <Marupa> awilcox, Any ideas?
[12:22] <frenzy> the modem goes thru the switch then to me
[12:22] <dougie> Sp4rKy: ok how do i get the medi severs ip? lol
[12:22] <Sp4rKy> dougie:hmm, maybe a netstat :)
[12:22] <frenzy> sethk: the modem goes thru the switch then to me
[12:22] <awilcox> Netscape 7.02 comes up the profile manager...the create profile button won't let me create and the Start Netscape button gives me "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIProfileInternal.startApprunner] "
[12:22] <Sp4rKy> dougie: i've found you
[12:23] <awilcox> If I start Netscape 7.02 as root, it gives me no profile manager or errors, and just loads Netscape.
[12:23] <dougie> lol
[12:23] <Ducky> winehq this is what i need...correct ?
[12:23] <awilcox> I installed it as root, should I have installed it as a user?
[12:23] <sethk> frenzy, You have to set up a second, virtual address on your network card.
[12:23] <awilcox> Marupa: Sorry, I do not.
[12:23] <MarcM> Flannel: what site would you recommend for a noob walk-through?
[12:23] <MarcM> Ducky: no, not without some work anyhow. They do not play natively in Linux
[12:23] <frenzy> sethk: ... ok how??? kinda of a newb to the lunix world
[12:23] <Ducky> xD ok, ill keep looking.
[12:23] <sethk> frenzy, basically you set up a separate (virtual) subnet consisting of yourself and the router
[12:23] <Sp4rKy> dougie: the serv stats said you download at about 150kbps
[12:23] <thespore> Ducky, wine can run some win32 apps.. cedega is based on wine but optimized for games
[12:23] <hateyla> i cant order a free CD of edgy?
[12:23] <truvisionary> not yet
[12:24] <sethk> frenzy, if your card is eth0, you will normally have just one interface for it.  You can  create others, though, named eth0:1, eth0:2, etc.
[12:24] <truvisionary> you have to wait for Feisty to come out
[12:24] <hateyla> damn with my slow connection :<
[12:24] <hateyla> truvisionary,  ok.
[12:24] <dougie> Sp4rKy: hmm well i should actually be able to download at like 350 about.... but i'm still only downloading at like 15-25 on this server
[12:24] <sethk> frenzy, you don't have to use those names but it's the way it is usually done
[12:24] <bacho> hateyla supposely no but the ones i ordered are 6.10
[12:24] <frenzy> sethk: ... ok ... how ??? LOL
[12:24] <erichj> dapper is really nice though
[12:24] <rbil> hateyla: any linux users group close to you. someone would have a cd they can burn for you
[12:24] <Sp4rKy> dougie: really strange
[12:24] <sethk> frenzy, something like:    ifconfig eth0:1 <address> netmask <mask>
[12:24] <hateyla> rbil : right.
[12:25] <jva> where can i set a shortcut to toggle between two languages?
[12:25] <Mirth> Guys, I have a problem
[12:25] <sethk> frenzy, then you make your ubunto box the default destination for all the other boxes on the network, so you get their outgoing packets.
[12:25] <frenzy> sethk: and what adrress would that be
[12:25] <dougie> Sp4rKy: i did a netstat and half the info gets lost i guess its too long lol but i'm not sure which one is medi...
[12:25] <Sp4rKy> dougie: anyway, servers have some issue at this time
[12:25] <Ducky>  cedega 5.2.9 is the one i need..correct MarchM ?
[12:25] <truvisionary> where can I find a tutorial on how to install compiz?
[12:25] <Sp4rKy> dougie: you're on <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:25] <hateyla> Where i can change my login screen setting?
[12:25] <dougie> oh
[12:25] <dougie> ok
[12:25] <Mirth> I have Vista and Ubuntu Dual Boot, and I overwritten the GRUB MBR and can't boot into Ubuntu now.  Is there any way to reinstall GRUB without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[12:25] <dougie> lol
[12:26] <MarcM> Ducky: not sure, i'm not much of a pc gamer
[12:26] <frenzy> sethk: i uderstand the concept but just dont know how to do it
[12:26] <dougie> hmm... well xmms still wont play wma file...
[12:26] <emss> Mirth you like vista more than ubuntu, or just use them for different purposes?
[12:26] <sethk> frenzy, typically, the router would have an ip something like <IP_ADDRESS>.  So you can make your virtual address <IP_ADDRESS>, and use a netmask of <IP_ADDRESS> for that subnet.  Then you create a separate subnet, by choosing addresses and masks for the other machines (and for your physical eth0) that are a separate subnet.
[12:26] <erichj> hateyla: system->admin->login window
[12:26] <jimmygoon> I want to set custom keyboard shortcuts - how can I - the gnome-keyboard-shortcuts only lets me change pre-existing shortcuts
[12:26] <sethk> frenzy, I'll see if I can spot a howto.  it's not hard to do, but it's a bit hard to explain
[12:26] <antidrugue> hi everyone, i simply can't boot latest Ubuntu Feisty daily-live build, or herd 5... the message "/bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off" appears after a few seconds
[12:26] <_seanc_> sethk: It's only giving me the option for 1280x1024 @ 60hz and that's killing me any way to manually force like 80hz?
[12:26] <frenzy> sethk: thx
[12:26] <Mirth> emss, I use them for different purposes (Need Windows for school)
[12:26] <globe> Can somebody point me to a tutorial where I can find out details about running multiple vnc sessions on one machine (kind of like terminal server on win2000)
[12:26] <Ducky> that's the whole reason i want to switch xD, cause i was told unbuntu uses less resources, and its also good for video editing...
[12:26] <jva> where can i set a shortcut to toggle between two languages?
[12:27] <puros_> http://ewizard.free.fr/?action=rubis&nom=puros
[12:27] <Sp4rKy> dougie: you can stop & re run you apt-get to get another server , but i'm not sure that will resolv the latency
[12:27] <rb007> My lower gnome-panel somehow has the partial image of a Web site imprinted on it.  It's still there even after a reboot.  So the lower gnome-panel has the text of a Web site overlaid on it.  It looks terrible.  Does anyone know how to fix it?
[12:27] <sethk> _seanc_, does it give you better refresh rates at lower resolutions?  If so, it thinks that's the highest your monitor can handle.  You may have to override it's automatically determined monitor choice.
[12:27] <Flannel> antidrugue: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support, thanks.
[12:27] <dougie> Sp4rKy: yeah its done now lol just took a long time... i think that music i was playing i got on windows edge or whatever that service is so it is drm'ed
[12:27] <hateyla> erichj,  thank. but i dont find the reboot n Shutdown option there :< Even in QUIT tab too.. there is just SwitchUser, log0ff, ScreenLock, Hibernate.. No reboot option and no shutdown option there.. any idea?
[12:27] <kyuuketsuki47> can anyone point me to the forum for beryl?
[12:27] <__Lamont__> !grub > Mirth
[12:27] <merc> im doing a dist upgrade (via update-manager -c -d), and it's stuck on 'configuring libgstreamer' step, what should i do? (or what is safe?)
[12:27] <emss> !beryl
[12:27] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:27] <antidrugue> flannel : thanks a lot, didn't knew that
[12:27] <sethk> _seanc_, if you tell it to use, say, generic monitor capable of 1280x1024 @ 72 hz, then you'll be able to set 1280x1024@72hz
[12:28] <MarcM> Ducky: you can always install Ubuntu as a second OS and keep XP for games until you get them running on Linux
[12:28] <_seanc_> sethk: It does give me a better choice at say 1024x768, but when running windows 60hz is ok, but for some reason on ubuntu it gives me a terrible headache
[12:28] <kyuuketsuki47> !beryl
[12:28] <Sp4rKy> dougie: ::)
[12:28] <sethk> _seanc_, I get a headache running anything at 60 hz.
[12:28] <sethk> _seanc_, windows is no better for me.
[12:28] <puros_> http://ewizard.free.fr/?action=rubis&nom=puros
[12:28] <Noah0504> rb007: Are you sure it's not a burned image?
[12:28] <Mirth> __Lamont__, what is that?
[12:28] <sethk> _seanc_, the question is, _can_ the monitor do 1280x1024 at higher than 60?
[12:28] <rb007> Noah0504: what do you mean by "burned image"?
[12:28] <_seanc_> sethk: Don't know :|
[12:28] <jva> anyone??
[12:29] <cjlowe> why is admin not an allowed user name in the ubuntu installer anymore?
[12:29] <__Lamont__> Mirth - trying to get the bot to msg you
[12:29] <Mirth> Oh
[12:29] <__Lamont__> !grub
[12:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:29] <jva> where can i set a shortcut to toggle between two languages?
[12:29] <sethk> _seanc_, we can force the resolution, but if the monitor can't display it, forcing it won't help (obviously)
[12:29] <Mirth> Nice, thanks __Lamont__
[12:29] <eternalswd> frenzy, let me see if I understand your situation.  You have a dlink modem connected to a switch.  The switch is connected to your pc and the other pc's are supposed to connect through your machine to the switch to the router?
[12:29] <globe> jva there is a panel applet that will make a button to do this I think
[12:29] <Noah0504> rb007: Well, sometimes if a monitor was left on for too long, an image can "burn" into the screen.  I reall don't think that is the case.  Try moving the Gnome panel to another side of the screen and see what happens.
[12:29] <awilcox> Mirth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:29] <frenzy> eternalswd: yup
[12:30] <_seanc_> sethk: Yeah, 1024x768 works at 85, but when I choose 1280x1024 only option is 60, so I guess that's what my monitor can handle, that sucks
[12:30] <__Lamont__> NP - I'm having similar issues - software RAID Ubuntu died (bad motherboard) and the new MB doesn't find the OS - think I just need to reinstall grub
[12:30] <jimmygoon> I want to set custom keyboard shortcuts - how can I - the gnome-keyboard-shortcuts only lets me change pre-existing shortcuts
[12:30] <_seanc_> cause I can't dig this huge icons :)
[12:30] <Jenn> Question -- In sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it detects the wrong graphic card... the one I don't use anymore.
[12:30] <globe> jva rigth click on an empty space on a panel and click add to panel
[12:30] <Jenn> How can I fix that?
[12:30] <eternalswd> frenzy, how do the other pc's connect to your pc and you connect to the switch if you only have one port?
[12:30] <jva> globe:yes i know of the panel applet, but i want it as a kb shortcut
[12:30] <trond> Do anyone know if the drivers from the ATI pages are safe to install on Ubuntu edgy? Or should I go for the (older) driver in the repos?
[12:30] <Marupa> well!  I got darkice to compile, but I had to 'hack' it.  >.<
[12:30] <rb007> Noah0504: no... it's a laptop with screensaver.  The Web site text is embedded in gnome-panel -- it disappears if I hover over it on the "button" for each open window.
[12:30] <trond> Talking about the fglrx driver
[12:30] <sethk> _seanc_, yes, I agree.  You are sure it is as 60 hz in windows?
[12:30] <frenzy> eternalswd: thgey connect directly to the switch
[12:30] <_seanc_> sethk: I do believe so
[12:30] <_seanc_> sethk: How do I force it to use 72 for instance (Just to try)
[12:30] <sethk> _seanc_, then likely that's all it can do.
[12:31] <hateyla> i dont find the reboot n Shutdown option in GNOME and KDE too  :< Even in QUIT tab too.. there is just SwitchUser, log0ff, ScreenLock, Hibernate.. No reboot option and no shutdown option there.. any idea? anyone?
[12:31] <Sivik> this is probably a stupid question but is there a web publishing program for linux, i can't find anything on google.com
[12:31] <Noah0504> rb007: Oh.  Hmm, well, pehaps you can delete the panel and just add a new one with all of the old applets.
[12:31] <eternalswd> frenzy, okay, so your machine is supposed to act as a proxy?
[12:31] <awilcox> _seanc_ 75 is more standard than 72.
[12:31] <_seanc_> ok, how do I force 75 :)
[12:31] <Jenn> Why does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg detect the wrong graphic card?
[12:31] <globe> jva: I dont think you can do that easily....plus I would think that it would cause confusion
[12:31] <rb007> Noah0504: how do you delete it?  It's not the top part with the applets... it's the lower panel...
[12:31] <awilcox> Hrm, I haven't done that for a long time, _seanc_.  In fact SuSE's X was so screwed that is why I switched to Ubuntu.
[12:32] <sethk> _seanc_, you override the monitor choice, and choose a monitor capable of doing 1280x1024@72 hz.  If you get into the monitor list, you'll see choices for various generic monitors, listing a refresh.  That refresh should match the monitor's highest resolution.  You'll see one that says 1280x1024@72, (or maybe 70, I don't remember, but you'll see it)
[12:32] <awilcox> no more screwing around with X :)
[12:32] <erichj> hateya: just thought of something. make sure you don't have more than one session for the same username running. if i log into multiple sessions i lose those options in all but the first session
[12:32] <jva> globe: no i need the equivalent of window's alt+shift
[12:32] <_seanc_> sethk: Ok, I'll see, it's just a pain it asked me like 100 questions first
[12:32] <frenzy> eternalswd: well idk about proxy but thru windos all i had to do is create the connection and tell it to share
[12:32] <puros_> http://ewizard.free.fr/?action=rubis&nom=puros
[12:33] <sethk> _seanc_, yes.  once you get used to it, you can blast through all the questions until you get to the one you care about
[12:33] <globe> jva: have you poked around in the keyboard shortcuts manager in preferences?
[12:33] <Oswy> Hey, can someone help me with partitioning?
[12:33] <eternalswd> frenzy, is there any particular reason the other computer can't connect directly through the switch to the modem?
[12:33] <Oswy> How do I set one up on the install screen without wiping it?
[12:33] <bruenig> Oswy, what is your question
[12:33] <bruenig> Oswy, if you are doing the manual partition, nothing actually is touched until you hit next or apply
[12:33] <Oswy> Right.
[12:33] <Oswy> But then will it erase it?
[12:34] <Jenn> Why does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg detect the wrong graphic card, the old one? How can I fix that?
[12:34] <bruenig> Oswy, you mean you don't want to touch it at all?
[12:34] <Oswy> Yeah.
[12:34] <jva> globe: i don't know which specific submenu controls that. but yes i have messed with it.
[12:34] <Ducky> i can run windows programs correct ? IE Dj software that works in windows, and irc correct ?
[12:34] <Kresjah> I
[12:34] <hateyla> Can i use beryl in Ubuntu-dapper  ?
[12:34] <_seanc_> sethk: It lets me do 1400x1050 @ 75... why hate on 1280x1024
[12:34] <awilcox> Okay I just tried to reinstall Netscape 7.02 as a normal user.  It installs as a normal user, but STILL won't open.
[12:34] <bruenig> Oswy, then just don't touch it, after the manual partition party, there is a part where you can set mountpoints and tell it whether you want to format it or not
[12:34] <erichj> hateyla: also, if you are logged on as root you shoulnd't see those options
[12:34] <bruenig> !beryl | hateyla yes you can
[12:34] <ubotu> hateyla yes you can: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:35] <awilcox> Is there a Netscape channel?
[12:35] <rbil> _seanc_: have u tried this command to query the sync rates of your monitor? sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[12:35] <sethk> _seanc_, that's quite odd.  In that case, I think I would try to override.
[12:35] <erichj> at least that is how my install seems to work
[12:35] <LadyNikon> awilcox: that is still around?
[12:35] <Mirth> Gonna try Super GRUB Disk
[12:35] <Mirth> Sounds easy
[12:35] <deezy> Hi all!
[12:35] <awilcox> LadyNikon: Yes?
[12:35] <Kresjah> I'm having problems compiling xf86-video-ati on my edgy. I get errors regarding undefined PACKAGE_VERSION_MAJOR, PACKAGE_VERSION_MINOR and PACKAGE_VERSION_PATCHLEVEL. Any ideas about what I can try?
[12:35] <hateyla> bruenig,  thankyou..
[12:35] <soundray> Jenn: ignore the autodetected one, choose the proper driver at the next screen and enter the PCI ID of the card when it asks (find it out with lspci)
[12:35] <_seanc_> sethk: Ok, where can I find how to do that? :)
[12:35] <Marupa> or not.  x.x
[12:35] <awilcox> LadyNikon I have Netscape 7.02 that I must get working on Linux.
[12:36] <awilcox> And nobody here seems to know what the problem is.
[12:36] <_seanc_> sethk: I can make direct changes to xorg.conf right to override it like I did for 1280x1024
[12:36] <Oswy> bruenig: Thanks. (up there)
[12:36] <LadyNikon> awilcox: sounds like you may have to run it in wine
[12:36] <Jenn> soundray, Ispci?
[12:36] <abasinisvacant> quick question:  what's the latest stable version of edgy;  6.10?
[12:36] <LadyNikon> awilcox: if they dont have a linus version
[12:36] <MarcM> Ducky: no. Windows and Linux are 2 completely different creatures. you can only run software written/compiled for Linux
[12:36] <soundray> Jenn: no, Lspci
[12:36] <bruenig> abasinisvacant, edgy is the latest stable version of ubuntu
[12:36] <deezy> Anyone available for a quick ? on live cd install probs...i'm getting the startup sound when it boots into ubuntu, then nasty black/white/green/red lines
[12:36] <sethk> _seanc_, you can try that.  If you make a mistake, though, then X will refuse to start.  You can always reverse the change.
[12:36] <Jenn> sounray, how do I correctly find the PCI ID?
[12:36] <frenzy> eternalswd: yeah ... the modem wont allow loopback, so the ppl here cant play warcraft online with eachother
[12:36] <soundray> Jenn: with lspci
[12:36] <Marupa> it's looking for libasound.so and alsa/asoundlib.h  Neither of which exist.
[12:36] <abasinisvacant> bruenig, but what version of edgy
[12:36] <deezy> it's like it's a video prob w/ my card...but im stuck on what to do next
[12:36] <awilcox> LadyNikon they have a Linux version, I am running it, but it will only run as root.
[12:36] <Kalle_> Hey... isnt dapper LAMP server preinstalled with lwp-download ???
[12:36] <_seanc_> sethk: Ok, then where can I find out to do that and reverse the change (in case)
[12:36] <LadyNikon> awilcox: change the permissions
[12:36] <Jenn> soundray, sorry but what is LSPCI?
[12:37] <bruenig> abasinisvacant, there is only one version of edgy
[12:37] <dauoalagio1> hello i have a conexant intel hd audio system in my laptop, and whenever i try to turn up the sound it gets really distored.  also it is very soft even when it's up at max, it's probably have of what it could be.  i have it turned fully up in alsamixer, any ideas?
[12:37] <puros_> http://ewizard.free.fr/?action=rubis&nom=puros
[12:37] <abasinisvacant> oh..
[12:37] <Oswy> OK, bruenig, it says that there's no root system.
[12:37] <LadyNikon> !permissions
[12:37] <Oswy> Or something like that.
[12:37] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:37] <awilcox> LadyNikon I installed it as a normal user.  I also did chmod 777 netscape7 -R
[12:37] <bruenig> Oswy, you have to set something to mount at /
[12:37] <soundray> Jenn: enter 'man lspci' to find out
[12:37] <Oswy> Hmm.
[12:37] <Jenn> soundray, how do I access LSPCI?
[12:37] <Oswy> Gah, how do I do that?
[12:37] <sethk> _seanc_, there are lots of docs around.  I don't know one off the top of my had, but it shouldn't be hard to find.  I just use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and let the program do the work.
[12:37] <Jenn> man lspci..
[12:37] <Oswy> I'm pathetic with this.
[12:37] <bruenig> Oswy, change the mount point
[12:37] <Jenn> ok
[12:37] <LadyNikon> awilcox: see the links above
[12:37] <Oswy> ?
[12:37] <awilcox> LadyNikon: I have already done this.
[12:37] <truvisionary> how do I install compiz?
[12:37] <LadyNikon> awilcox: then thats all i know
[12:37] <bruenig> !compiz | truvisionary
[12:37] <ubotu> truvisionary: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:37] <awilcox> LadyNikon: I have chmod 777 netscape7 -R
[12:37] <LadyNikon> it should work under user
[12:38] <Oswy> "Use the largest continuous free space."
[12:38] <awilcox> LadyNikon yes it should, that is why I need help.
[12:38] <Oswy> Will that wipe?
[12:38] <killsalad> hi all
[12:38] <Oswy> Or does that leave everything else untouched?
[12:38] <LadyNikon> awilcox: is there a usergroup for it?
[12:38] <awilcox> LadyNikon: Netscape?  No there isn't.
[12:38] <bruenig> Oswy, that leaves everything else untouched
[12:38] <Oswy> OK, cool.
[12:38] <Oswy> Thanks.
[12:38] <mage___> anyone want to explain to me the whole restricted modules in a tmpfs thing?
[12:38] <awilcox> Maybe I should just run as root.
[12:38] <LadyNikon> awilcox: sorry i couldnt think of anything else :(
[12:38] <Jenn> soundray, ok, I got the menu. What option do I pick from there?
[12:38] <Oswy> wtf
[12:39] <Oswy> I have 199 GB and it said it wasn't enough.
[12:39] <Oswy> ><
[12:39] <soundray> Jenn: what menu?
[12:39] <_seanc_> sethk: Ok, I just didn't see where I could force it to use a higher res
[12:39] <Jenn> I entered 'man lspci'
[12:39] <deezy> Anyone available for a question?  can you pm?
[12:39] <mage___> Oswy: maybe it means unpartitioned space
[12:39] <Oswy> Probably, yeah.
[12:39] <Oswy> In which case, I'm screwed?
[12:39] <sethk> _seanc_, by overriding it's monitor choice, you will get additional resolutions from which to choose
[12:39] <Jenn> soundgray: I got this Linux PCI UTILITIES menu.
[12:40] <soundray> Jenn: that's not a menu, it's a manual page. If you read it, you will learn how to use lspci
[12:40] <Noah0504> Does anyone know of a good console email application that can support Gmail?
[12:40] <deezy> Thunderbird!
[12:40] <bruenig> deezy, console
[12:40] <Kalle_> Thunderbird
[12:40] <soundray> Noah0504: mutt with fetchmail
[12:40] <mage___> Oswy: "manually" doing it gives you a gui to resize partitions,
[12:40] <deezy> ah f me
[12:40] <am_rods> hi
[12:40] <deezy> lol
[12:40] <Jenn> soundgray, here is the menu I get: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/lspci.8.html
[12:40] <am_rods> how can i terminate a program that is not responding?
[12:40] <Oswy> Hmm, k.
[12:40] <Noah0504> soundray: Is fetchmail an addon?
[12:40] <puros_> http://ewizard.free.fr/?action=rubis&nom=puros
[12:41] <Ash-Fox> For those of you who are having problems with Wine's official repository for edgy (bad dependency issues). I have fixed the package myself and uploaded it to my own repository, you can add my repository via: sudo bash -c 'echo deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-edgy/ >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[12:41] <soundray> Noah0504: no, it's a separate program for retrieving mail via POP or IMAP
[12:41] <mage___> Noah0504: it should be ;)
[12:41] <storm-zen> Where does synaptic write its logs?  ( I installed alot of software but my son turned the PC off before I could see any error messages ) ..
[12:41] <bruenig> Ash-Fox, or they can just wget those two dependencies
[12:41] <sethk> Noah0504, fetchmail is a separate piece of software that is useful in many situations, such as yours'
[12:41] <soundray> Jenn: it is *not* a menu
[12:41] <killsalad> I've got problem with networking in 7.04. My computer is kind of router, it has 2 nic, and recently one nic, connected to internet is not starting automatic, I have to ifdown ifup it manualy, any sugestions?
[12:41] <Noah0504> I see.
[12:42] <deezy> --I've got a geforce 5600fx, it's not displaying correctly on the live cd...It's a terrible mess.  I'm downloading the alternative cd to try to install via text install..is this recommended?
[12:42] <Jenn> soundray, I understand but how do I select one of the option to view the PCI id of the graphic card?
[12:42] <soundray> killsalad: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:42] <kevincastfiction> When I try to install something through the terminal, it keeps giving me this message: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  What should I do?
[12:42] <Ash-Fox> bruenig, well, those two dependencies don't seem to be a standard part of ubuntu edgy and replacing them may cause issues with other packages.
[12:42] <bruenig> Ash-Fox, they are in the repos
[12:42] <soundray> Jenn: lspci is a command line program
[12:42] <mage___> kevincastfiction: run 'dpkg --configure  -a' to correct the problem.
[12:42] <mage___> :D
[12:42] <Kalle_> Any got a quick guide to get lwp-download ??
[12:42] <sethk> kevincastfiction, run dpkg --configure -a
[12:42] <Ash-Fox> bruenig, apt-get can't find those later versions.
[12:42] <sethk> kevincastfiction, man, that was a tough one.
[12:42] <bruenig> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgphoto2/
[12:43] <bruenig> they are both in there, I don't see what the deal is
[12:43] <deezy> Any recommendation ?
[12:43] <kevincastfiction> mage___: Where is that to execute?
[12:43] <bruenig> deezy, go for it
[12:43] <am_rods> help: i need to terminate a nonresponding application
[12:43] <am_rods> how do i do that?
[12:43] <Oswy> Went away for a while, sorry.
[12:43] <mage___> kevincastfiction: do it as root
[12:43] <storm-zen> !synaptic > storm-zen
[12:43] <Oswy> So uhh.
[12:43] <deezy> bruenig>  i'm trying to install on my GF4 5600fx box
[12:44] <rbil> am_rods: what's the name of the app?
[12:44] <kevincastfiction> mage___: It won't let me log in as root.
[12:44] <am_rods> wine
[12:44] <Jenn> soundgray, I'm in the command right now. What should I enter to see the pci #?
[12:44] <mage___> kevincastfiction: its a console command, so you'd open up a terminal
[12:44] <bruenig> deezy, congratulations?
[12:44] <deezy> live cd, and safe mode on the cd look terrible..I can't install.
[12:44] <rbil> am_rods: in a terminal ... killall wine
[12:44] <deezy> white/black/red/green lines
[12:44] <hateyla> bruenig,  i have this .0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) .. is beryl Support it?
[12:44] <soundray> kevincastfiction: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[12:44] <Jenn> soundray, sorry for spell name mistake and my lack of knowledge. :(
[12:44] <am_rods> thanks
[12:44] <bruenig> hateyla, I don't know
[12:44] <Noah0504> Well, if I have just a simple email account as part of a web hosting package, what would be a good program for accessing it?  I'm not sure what protocol it uses though.
[12:44] <deezy> Sounds like a video card issue?
[12:44] <Ash-Fox> bruenig, point of the matter is. I prepared a package that uses the existing libraries without a issue at the moment.
[12:44] <Oswy> So is there any way I can use the free space I have on the current partition, or create a new one without wiping?
[12:44] <soundray> kevincastfiction: it will ask for your user password
[12:44] <hateyla> bruenig, .. what i need to install for beryl?
[12:45] <bruenig> !beryl | hateyla
[12:45] <ubotu> hateyla: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:45] <deezy> Is the only work around to run the alternative install cd? do a text line install
[12:45] <mage___> kevincastfiction: open terminal and sudo bash
[12:45] <deezy> then how do I fix the card issue?
[12:45] <soundray> Jenn: never mind. Have you found the PCI ID of your new graphics card?
[12:45] <kevincastfiction> mage___: Thanks for the help.
[12:45] <mage___> soundray: he might mean you cant log in as root with the gui ;)
[12:45] <kevincastfiction> Seth K: Thanks for the help.
[12:45] <kevincastfiction> soundray: Thanks for the help.
[12:45] <Jenn> soundray, I'm trying but I have no idea how to do that! :(
[12:45] <Jenn> soundray, I'm sorry.
[12:45] <bruenig> Ash-Fox, I packaged xdvdshrink, you should put that in your repo. xdvdshrink is awesome but it isn't in ubuntu repos for some reason
[12:45] <soundray> mage___: I think I know what he meant
[12:45] <Oswy> Ugh, never mind.
[12:45] <killaz> bummer nvidia overscan doesnt work on GeForce2
[12:45] <Oswy> g2g to dinner
[12:45] <owner> does anyone have maguma workbench on their machine i just want to know if it is  good for php, css, phpmyadmin. i used to have dreamweaver but i switched to ubuntu
[12:46] <Oswy> I'll ask again later if I still haven't figured it out.
[12:46] <Toran> is there a fast way to unzip a lot of .zip files in one folder? (hopefully with one command)
[12:46] <bruenig> Toran, unzip *.zip
[12:46] <killaz> bah bah amd more bah
[12:46] <andre_pl> how long should th einstaller take to resize an ntfs partition? i'm afraid its not working right, its been about 15 mins
[12:46] <Toran> I tried that, bruenig, it didn't work
[12:46] <deezy> bruenig, can I PM?
[12:46] <soundray> Jenn: just enter 'lspci' in the terminal, like any other command. It will do what the man page explains: "list all PCI devices" along with their IDs
[12:46] <bruenig> Toran, what was the output
[12:46] <am_rods> rbil: it says wine: no process killed
[12:46] <Toran> jon@gimli:~/pics/wallpapers/abstract$ unzip *zip
[12:46] <Toran> Archive:  013a.zip
[12:46] <Toran> caution: filename not matched:  absorb.zip
[12:46] <Toran> caution: filename not matched:  alovelytree.zip
[12:46] <Toran> ...
[12:46] <rbil> Toran: try unzip "*.zip"
[12:47] <Toran> ok
[12:47] <puros_> http://ewizard.free.fr/?action=rubis&nom=puros
[12:47] <Mirth> Can you guys help me find a couple of things about my Ubuntu, using an example?
[12:47] <Toran> that worked
[12:47] <Toran> thanks rbil
[12:47] <Mirth> title Ubuntu
[12:47] <Mirth> root (hd1,1)
[12:47] <bruenig> alovelytree.zip, what could that be
[12:47] <Mirth> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic ro root=/dev/hdb2
[12:47] <deezy> ?
[12:47] <Mirth> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic
[12:47] <Mirth> I need to find those
[12:47] <gonzo_> I'm having problems getting ubuntu to mount my swap partition on boot
[12:47] <Jenn> soundgray, you rock! FOUND IT!
[12:47] <Mirth> And those are examples
[12:47] <bruenig> gonzo_, is it configured right in your fstab?
[12:47] <soundray> Mirth: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:48] <squee> How do I find where in /dev my video camera is?
[12:48] <gonzo_> I'm having problems getting ubuntu to mount my swap partition on boot;9
[12:48] <Mirth> Will try that soundray
[12:48] <Mirth> Thanks
[12:48] <deezy> ~Video card problems on Live CD~
[12:48] <soundray> squee: it should be /dev/video0
[12:48] <am_rods> rbil: it says no process killed
[12:48] <Kalle_> Any got a quick guide to get lwp-download ??
[12:48] <hateyla> bruenig,  u told me that i can use beryl on Ubuntu-dapper?
[12:48] <soundray> squee: if it's not, try to plug it in another socket
[12:48] <bruenig> hateyla, I did
[12:48] <squee> soundray: I would think so, but it isn't.  camstream can still play it too
[12:48] <rbil> am_rods: is wine running a window on your desktop?
[12:49] <hateyla> bruenig,  check your PM
[12:49] <bruenig> hateyla, nothing and don't pm me
[12:49] <squee> soundray: it is usb, and it doesn't show up anywhere under /dev/video*
[12:49] <deezy> ~Video card problems on Live CD~
[12:49] <bruenig> hateyla, go to #ubuntu-effects for help with beryl
[12:49] <Ash-Fox> bruenig, I could -- my only requirements for things in quickfox's repository is that things install properly on a brand new <distro version> installation and actually.. work :P
[12:49] <hateyla> bruenig,  nevamind.. but ya i just got there n get a result that..  <crdlb> hateyla, there are no beryl packages for dapper afaik
[12:49] <rbil> am_rods: what does this produce? ps aux | grep wine
[12:49] <am_rods> rbil: it appers that is running a window but it is frozen
[12:49] <soundray> squee: maybe camstream accesses /dev/video, which is usually a symlink to something else.
[12:49] <gonzo_> I tried to conf if in fstab but it hasn't worked
[12:49] <bruenig> Ash-Fox, oh quickfox, I used that with glipper
[12:50] <storm-zen> where does synaptic write its log files?  I need to see any error messages that it may have had during a massive installation...
[12:50] <Marupa> Anyone here ever used darkice?
[12:50] <Ash-Fox> bruenig, I'm talking of the repo called quickfox, not the browser.
[12:50] <am_rods> rbil: i does not appear in the taskbar
[12:50] <gonzo_> free says swap is 0 0 0 but the partition still exsists
[12:50] <bruenig> Ash-Fox, I know, it had glipper did it not or was that something else
[12:50] <gonzo_> any 1?
[12:50] <am_rods> rbil: but i have a frozen square in my display
[12:51] <rbil> am_rods: what does this produce? ps aux | grep wine
[12:51] <Mirth> Thanks soundray, got it
[12:51] <Ash-Fox> glfrontier
[12:51] <soundray> storm-zen: one of the files in /var/log/installer/ I would think (but I haven't checked)
[12:51] <storm-zen> soundray: ok.  I'll check there.
[12:51] <am_rods> rbil: i have also tried with the appkiller applet
[12:51] <boredandblogging> can someone tell me why I can't set stuff in synaptic from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libs/ when I already have deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse universe in my sources.list file?
[12:51] <Ducky> to install Ubuntu...i must burn the copy i download to a cd..correct ? i cannont install with just powerISO ?
[12:51] <rbil> am_rods: u aren't answering my question
[12:52] <bruenig> boredandblogging, "set stuff"?
[12:52] <secion8> Screen goes black after logging out, running feisty fawn with ati radeon 200m and proprietary drivers.. Any ideas how to fix it?
[12:52] <boredandblogging> bruenig, sorry, get stuff
[12:52] <bruenig> boredandblogging, what are you trying to get
[12:52] <am_rods> rbil: what do you want me to tell you?
[12:52] <boredandblogging> bruenig, libswidgets
[12:52] <soundray> secion8: I had that problem. You don't want to know how I fixed it.
[12:53] <soundray> secion8: I bought an NVidia card :(
[12:53] <rbil> am_rods: run the command i've given u and tell me the results that are displayed
[12:53] <secion8> soundray, bought a nvidia card?
[12:53] <bruenig> boredandblogging, libswidgets is not a package, do you know its real name
[12:53] <soundray> secion8: yep
[12:53] <boredandblogging> bruenig, libswidgets-java
[12:53] <bruenig> !info libswidgets-java
[12:53] <secion8> soundray, knew that was coming :) Unfortunately I am running a laptop
[12:53] <ubotu> Package libswidgets-java does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:53] <bruenig> boredandblogging, nope
[12:54] <boredandblogging> bruenig, ok, so what are the files in http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libs/
[12:54] <Ducky> to install Ubuntu...i must burn the copy i download to a cd..correct ? i cannont install with just powerISO ?
[12:54] <soundray> secion8: the ati driver worked for me more or less, but I needed acceleration to run some software I need for work.
[12:54] <dauoalagio1> ducky, yep
[12:54] <bruenig> boredandblogging, there are no debs in the libswidgets directory, just tar.gz and .dsc and .diff
[12:54] <Ducky> thank you...
[12:54] <am_rods> rbil:
[12:54] <am_rods> mikel@protoss:~$ killall wine
[12:54] <am_rods> wine: no process killed
[12:55] <goofey> xorg.0.log says Failed to load the Nvidia Kernel Module (this after a failed beryl install) - any ideas?
[12:55] <Kalle_> Hey can anybody help with version suggestion.. Dabber vs Edgy.. This is for some home solution (newz / samba / LAMP are all going to be used)
[12:55] <soundray> secion8: the fglrx driver exhibited precisely the behaviour you describe. It also crashed the machine when I tried to switch to console.
[12:55] <boredandblogging> bruenig, so if the diffs are there, where is the package?
[12:55] <rbil> am_rods: no ... I've asked u twice now for this command and this is the last time i'm going to ask :-)  ps aux | grep wine
[12:55] <Kalle_> Btw not the best linuxadmin :P
[12:56] <williammanda> I just changed my video card from a nvidia to a ati....what would be the best way to change the driver?
[12:56] <secion8> soundray: yep, It crashes the same way here. Thinking of trading my lappy in for an nvidia based hp
[12:56] <bruenig> boredandblogging, don't know, but not in there
[12:56] <chuckf> Kalle_, I'd go for edgy
[12:56] <bruenig> boredandblogging, perhaps they removed them or something for some reason?
[12:56] <secion8> williammanda: WHY?
[12:56] <soundray> williammanda: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:57] <bruenig> boredandblogging, maybe they were obsoleted by some other package
[12:57] <Kalle_> chuckf ok... Last time I read about it edgy was still a no no for beginners :)
[12:57] <soundray> williammanda: bad choice by the way (as secion8 will confirm ;)
[12:57] <whta> all right, guys, i just completely rewired my computer. let's see if my random turnoff problem stops :D
[12:57] <chuckf> Kalle_, well everyone has to start somewhere
[12:57] <am_rods> rbil:
[12:57] <am_rods> mikel@protoss:~$ ps aux | grep wine
[12:57] <am_rods> mikel     6165  0.0  0.3   4092  1736 ?        Ss   19:33   0:00 /usr/bin/../lib/../bin/wineserver
[12:57] <am_rods> mikel     6795  0.0  0.1   2800   748 pts/0    R+   19:57   0:00 grep wine
[12:57] <Kalle_> hehe
[12:58] <rbil> am_rods: killall wineserver
[12:58] <chuckf> Kalle_, and if it was right after it came out, I would agree
[12:58] <williammanda> I can't get the console up during boot up...any ideas?
[12:58] <poohter> DCC SEND LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL
[12:58] <bruenig> edgy was just as good as dapper for beginners, the problem with edgy was the upgrade breakage mainly
[12:58] <Kalle_> chuckf I messed a round with a dapper lamp the last two nights to get my "skills" back but I cant get lwp-download to work :S
[12:58] <boredandblogging> bruenig, you are right, on launchpad, it says not yet built
[12:58] <storm-zen> .
[12:59] <Kalle_> aah ok so a new edgy is as good as a new dapper for install
[12:59] <bruenig> Kalle_, yeah
[12:59] <owner> what is the best editor for php and css and phpmyadmin
[12:59] <LadyNikon> woah
[12:59] <storm-zen> what the.. ?
[12:59] <Kalle_> wtf
[12:59] <am_rods> rbil: mikel@protoss:~$ killall wineserver
[12:59] <am_rods> mikel@protoss:~$ killall wineserver
[12:59] <am_rods> wineserver: no process killed
[12:59] <Flannel> Kalle_: Edgy was fine upgrading too, as long as you didn't use 3rd party repos.  Automatix was the reason for a good deal of those breakages.
[12:59] <dauoalagio1> am_rods, sudo killall...
[12:59] <Kalle_> Nice as for now I'll only use the server versions :)
[01:00] <Kalle_> But can any of you tell me how to get lwp-down to work :)
[01:00] <rbil> am_rods: ??? ok try .... kill -9 6165
[01:00] <LadyNikon> people are just to bored these days
[01:00] <Kalle_> I got it on my redhat webserver (rented one)
[01:01] <whta> speaking of servers, is there a good synaptic repository for a solid LAMP server? or do i have to get it all separate?
[01:01] <am_rods> rbil: mikel@protoss:~$ kill -9 6165
[01:01] <am_rods> bash: kill: (6165) - No such process
[01:01] <bruenig> whta, any lamp package will just depend on the separate things (most likely)
[01:01] <soundray> whta: ubotu has some info for you, private message
[01:01] <Flannel> whta: main has everything for LAMP.
[01:01] <soundray> ubotu, tell whta about lamp
[01:01] <rbil> am_rods: then something is really screwed up. I'm afraid all u can do at this point is restart gui .. CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[01:02] <mindstate> i get a weird error when trying to extract a .bz2 file inside of a iso .. tar: NeverwinterNights: Cannot mkdir: Read-only file system.. can anyone help
[01:02] <gonzo_> hello, can some 1 help me get ubuntu to mount my swap partition on boot?
[01:02] <am_rods> rbil: thanks anyway
[01:02] <bruenig> gonzo_, I just asked you
[01:02] <gonzo_> ???
[01:02] <bruenig> gonzo_, is fstab configured right
[01:03] <bimberi> mindstate: you need to extract it to a writable area, such as your home directory
[01:03] <gonzo_> not sure
[01:03] <mindstate> bimberi, ive tried that also.. i get the same error
[01:03] <eV64_> anyone here used mythtv?
[01:03] <bruenig> gonzo_, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[01:03] <bruenig> !pastebin | gonzo_
[01:03] <ubotu> gonzo_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:03] <soundray> eV64_: ask a support question. This channel is not for surveys.
[01:03] <gonzo_> /mnt/576Mb.swap none		swap 	    sw 		    0 	    0
[01:03] <bimberi> mindstate: paste the command you ran
[01:04] <eV64_>  can someone look at this paste for me? http://pastebin.ca/402713 just ran myth-tv setup with errors and there's no window border around the grey setup screen
[01:04] <eV64_>  my tuner works with tvtime
[01:04] <gonzo_> also tried with /dev/hda5 and no luck
[01:04] <harry__> do any of you know if beryl has an IRC channel, or if there is one relating to that topic?
[01:04] <bruenig> gonzo_, oh I am not familiar with the inside the filesystem swap space at least not enough to be comfortable enough to answer it
[01:04] <bruenig> harry__, #beryl and #ubuntu-effects good places
[01:05] <Oswy> k back
[01:05] <Oswy> So can I create a partition or something to install Ubuntu on without wiping my HD?
[01:05] <sethk> gonzo_, are you able to mount it at the command line?
[01:05] <gonzo_> used the guide on the wiki and its made my file system, and I can see it with fsdisk, but it dosn't mount on boot
[01:05] <sethk> gonzo_, generally all you need to do is add the partition to /etc/fstab
[01:05] <mindstate> bimberi, sudo mount -o loop NeverwinterNights1-linux.iso ~/Desktop/iso
[01:06] <Jisao> is there a link to go to get Ubuntu in other languages than English?  Or are all the localizations included in the default Cd?
[01:06] <gonzo_> i can mount it with swapon
[01:06] <bimberi> mindstate: the extract command 'tar ...' ?
[01:06] <Oswy> If I create, say, a 2 GB partition, will it re-wipe the whole thing, or just find 2 GB that's free?
[01:06] <bruenig> sethk, it looks like it isn't on its own partition
[01:06] <mindstate> bimberi, tar -xjvf files.tar.bz2
[01:06] <soundray> eV64_: the "BadDevice" errors aren't usually anything to worry about. However, it appears to be trying to switch to full screen in a way that your graphics card doesn't support.
[01:07] <Oswy> Yes? No?
[01:07] <mjr> Jisao, not all are on the CD, but the CD will download your chosen language files if you have a network connection
[01:07] <sethk> bruenig, you mean he wants to use a file in a file system as swap?  if so, you don't mount it
[01:07] <soundray> eV64: did you get my reply?
[01:07] <mindstate> bimberi, nevermind dude i got it too work lol
[01:07] <eV64> no, xchat just crashed
[01:07] <mjr> Jisao, (and if they're not included)
[01:07] <soundray> eV64_: the "BadDevice" errors aren't usually anything to worry about. However, it appears to be trying to switch to full screen in a way that your graphics card doesn't support.
[01:07] <bruenig> sethk, that is what it looks like to me
[01:07] <gonzo_> no, its a file, my laptop is awkward, so I can't create partitions easily
[01:07] <bimberi> mindstate: cool, saved me some typing :)
[01:07] <soundray> eV64: what's your graphics card?
[01:07] <eV64> soundray: ati radeon 9800pro agp
[01:07] <Jisao> So people don't need a French/Italian/German CD.  Default does the job.
[01:08] <eV64> soundray: default edgy driver
[01:08] <sethk> gonzo_, you can add the statement to mount it to /etc/rc.local
[01:08] <rm_you> is there a guide somewhere for customizing the Edgy 6.10 livecd? The wiki only has instructions for Dapper and earlier :(
[01:08] <gonzo_> I'm not that experianced, lol
[01:08] <Oswy> HELLO, Is there ANY WAY to install Ubuntu either without creating a new partition or without losing the data already on the HD?
[01:08] <gonzo_> tell me how and I will give it a shot
[01:08] <bimberi> !uck | rm_you
[01:08] <ubotu> rm_you: UCK is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[01:08] <Oswy> !partition
[01:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:08] <rm_you> bimberi: thanks! :P
[01:09] <clearzen> Oswy: Yes, resize the current parition that you have your information on
[01:09] <Oswy> And that doesn't erase my info?
[01:09] <soundray> eV64: I would try the fglrx driver.
[01:09] <clearzen> No it won't
[01:09] <eV64> soundray: * Proprietary ATI and NVidia video drivers should be installed and configured after MythTV installation and configuration is complete.-from the guide i'm using
[01:09] <Oswy> k
[01:09] <Oswy> How much do I need to put aside, 2 GB?
[01:09] <bimberi> rm_you: np :) (it's a pretty risk factoid name that one)
[01:09] <soundray> ubotu, please tell eV64 about ati
[01:09] <gonzo_> swapon /mnt/576Mb.swap works in term from root
[01:09] <eV64> soundray: then the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop should be changed
[01:10] <clearzen> Oswy: Personally I would use about 5 depending on the size of your hdd, just to be safe
[01:10] <slacker_nl> lo
[01:10] <harry_> what was the oter channel than beryl?
[01:10] <bimberi> *riskqu
[01:10] <Oswy> k
[01:10] <eV64> soundray: thanks, I will go install the driver
[01:10] <bimberi> harry_: #ubuntu-effects
[01:10] <soundray> eV64: if you're sure about that, go ahead and make the change
[01:10] <Jisao> risqu
[01:10] <harry_> Thanks
[01:10] <storm-zen> I'm having trouble getting my wacom tablet working... (Grapphire 4) -- I followed the steps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151 ... can someone tell me where I've gone wrong?  The desktop registers mouse clicks and right clicks, but not mouse movement...
[01:10] <soundray> Ahoi slacker_nl
[01:10] <james296> for some reason after I installed the latest version of Wine, Im unable to do winecfg now
[01:10] <bimberi> Jisao: yeah i know, I'm having a shocker ok :)
[01:10] <james296> and I need help plz
[01:11] <rm_you> bimberi: it would be nice if the wiki page for customizing ubuntu edgy (which doesnt exist at the moment) had that link :P
[01:11] <eV64> soundray: I probably messed something else too, so I'm not sure.  I'll leave it
[01:11] <jvai> aight ppl. ty all..
[01:11] <james296> it says the X11 driver is missing...
[01:11] <rm_you> I suppose I could add it... >_>
[01:11] <Oswy> And this will definitely not wipe what I have so far?
[01:11] <bimberi> rm_you: feel free to edit :)
[01:11] <Oswy> Sorry, I just really don't want to lose my stuff.
[01:11] <soundray> Oswy: back it up
[01:11] <soundray> Oswy: data you haven't backed up is data you don't want.
[01:11] <Oswy> Haha, but then I'd have to restart the installation.
[01:11] <Oswy> heh.
[01:11] <Oswy> Fine.
[01:12] <soundray> Oswy: ask yourself "what's more important"?
[01:12] <gonzo_> so can any one help me mount my swap 'area' on boot? works from term as root using swapon /mnt/576Mb.swap
[01:12] <Oswy> Heh.
[01:12] <Oswy> Clarification, then; can I have 2 GB and be safe, or do I need more?
[01:12] <cables> hey, will 32 bit Ubuntu work with an AMD64 processor?
[01:13] <LiENUS> yes
[01:13] <bimberi> cables: yes
[01:13] <Jisao> yes, cableroy
[01:13] <soundray> Oswy: partition manipulation can result in catastrophic failure, even with the best software. All it takes is something like a power cut.
[01:13] <Jisao> yes, cables
[01:13] <Oswy> k
[01:13] <bimberi> 4-0
[01:13] <Oswy> I shall copy my smaller HD onto my bigger one, then, haha.
[01:13] <rbil> gonzo_: what is the result of this command? cat /etc/fstab |grep swap
[01:13] <soundray> cables: yes yes yes (7-0) (bimberi!) ;)
[01:14] <Hatty> How do you make a multi-dvd project in k3b. I cause i want to most of my ~/ and its like 8gb
[01:14] <storm-zen> Anyone here familiar with Wacom?
[01:14] <soundray> cables: it's the recommended one if you mainly use it as a desktop
[01:14] <ardchoille> soundray: Really? Nice to know, was planning to build a 64 soon.
[01:14] <gonzo_> rbil, what u mean by that?
[01:15] <gonzo_> rbil, it gives no output, but instantly mounts the area I set aside for my swap mount
[01:15] <cables> Thanks. I'm trying to convince my friend not to use 64-bit Ubuntu, and he's getting all pissed off at me saying 32 bit won't work on his processor... riiiight.
[01:15] <soundray> ardchoille: for you, I'd recommend 64bit, just for the fun of setting up a 32bit chroot environment to run acroread, skype and flash in.
[01:16] <rbil> gonzo_: u ran that command and got no result?
[01:16] <C`> hihihihihi
[01:16] <Kresjah> I'm having problems compiling xf86-video-ati on my edgy. I get errors regarding undefined PACKAGE_VERSION_MAJOR, PACKAGE_VERSION_MINOR and PACKAGE_VERSION_PATCHLEVEL. Any ideas about what I can try?
[01:16] <gonzo_> swapon /mnt/576Mb.swap just mounts the partition
[01:16] <Oswy> Finally, is NTFS OK, or do I need to reformat it in FAT?
[01:16] <ardchoille> soundray: Hah! I don't use any of those things :)
[01:16] <C`> Anyone here got 5.1 sound working???
[01:16] <soundray> ardchoille: I run 64bit because I can't stand the thought of not using the last bit of performance from my hardware
[01:17] <soundray> ardchoille: what about java plugins on web pages?
[01:17] <rbil> gonzo_: results of this command? sudo fdisk -l | grep swap
[01:17] <ardchoille> soundray: I never used java
[01:18] <gonzo_> rbil, /mnt/576Mb.swap none            swap        sw              0       0 for the first command
[01:18] <soundray> Oswy: you can read ntfs fine in Linux. Writing to it is also safe these days, but takes a bit of work to activate.
[01:18] <dauoalagio1> hello i have a conexant HD audio system in my laptop, x86. the sound, even at it's max is working however it is very soft compared to what it is on windows.  i have tried install Linuxant but with little luck, and i have alsamixer tuned to 100% but still with little luck, any ideas?
[01:18] <gonzo_> rbil, /dev/hda5            4795        4864      562243+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:18] <gonzo_>  for the fsdisk command
[01:19] <eV64> soundray: I've already started following http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Pre-Installation_Checks
[01:19] <hypnox> dauoalagio1 make sure you turn up PCM too
[01:19] <soundray> Oswy: if you frequently share data between OSs, install ext2fsd in Windows to access your Linux partitions.
[01:19] <rbil> gonzo: hold on and I'll tell u what u should have in fstab
[01:19] <dauoalagio1> hypnox, it's up all the way, too.
[01:19] <gonzo_> rbil, cheers :)
[01:19] <rbil> gonzo: /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:20] <Hatty> how do i make k3b/gnomebaker burn across multiple dvds?
[01:20] <james296> I need help with Wine
[01:20] <andre_pl> is a dist-upgrade to feisty safe to do at this point?
[01:20] <gonzo_> rbil, I'll give it a try, but I thibnk I already tried it and it didn't work :(
[01:20] <rbil> gonzo_: to take effect, reboot computer, after chaning fstab
[01:20] <soundray> eV64: looks all right to me, but please note this isn't official ubuntu documentation
[01:20] <dauoalagio1> andre_pl, beryl didn't work for me ify ou care.
[01:20] <gonzo_> rbil, brb
[01:21] <andre_pl> dauoalagio1: i have beryl working with edgy, so i imagine i could eventually get it going in feisty too.  thats not really a concern.
[01:21] <soundray> andre_pl: no. If you decide to do an upgrade now, please be prepared to help with bug reporting/ bug fixing.
[01:21] <soundray> andre_pl: join #ubuntu+1 for further feisty questions.
[01:21] <andre_pl> I use the machine for school, so I dont raelly want to break it.
[01:21] <jenn8888888> Help - when I type in lspci, I get the pci id for my graphics card. Can you tell me if it's in correct format?
[01:21] <soundray> andre_pl: in that case, stick with edgy for now
[01:22] <jenn8888888> hi soundray
[01:22] <dauoalagio1> andre_pl, i updated to feisty and the beryl effects came out really distorted and ugly.  it also crashed on my normal system everyday updates.  i am back on edgy now.
[01:22] <Mummi> Does windows support ubuntu?
[01:22] <shark-1> is there a way i can run photoshop effectively on ubuntu
[01:22] <dauoalagio1> shark-1, wine?
[01:22] <soundray> jenn8888888: if you copy it from the first column of lspci output, it will be. Please get a less annoying nickname.
[01:23] <soundray> Mummi: your question doesn't make sense. Tell us what you are trying to do.
[01:23] <shark-1> dauoalagio1, photoshop is unstable with wine
[01:23] <dauoalagio1> shark-1, oh,  what about cedega even though you have to pay for that.
[01:23] <LiENUS> didnt adobe promise to make photoshop stable in wine a while back?
[01:23] <rbil> shark-1: photoshop 7 works in wine :-)
[01:23] <dauoalagio1> shark-1, why not just use the gimp?
[01:23] <LiENUS> dauoalagio1, cmyk is a good reason not to use the gimp
[01:23] <shark-1> i cant do the same stuff with gimp
[01:24] <soundray> Thanks jenn ;)
[01:24] <dauoalagio1> LiENUS: never heard
[01:24] <LiENUS> dauoalagio1,  cyan magenta yellow black
[01:24] <Kresjah> I'm having problems compiling xf86-video-ati on my edgy. I get errors regarding undefined PACKAGE_VERSION_MAJOR, PACKAGE_VERSION_MINOR and PACKAGE_VERSION_PATCHLEVEL. I really need to get it compiled in order to get GL running on my laptop. I've tried getting GL up for months, and have been forced to learn a bunch of stuff I shouldn't have to learn (so basically, I'm still a newbie learning the hard way). Any ideas about what I can try?
[01:24] <LiENUS> its the color scheme for print
[01:24] <LiENUS> monitors use rgb
[01:24] <LiENUS> printers use cmyk
[01:24] <efface> does ubuntu come with a mixer?
[01:24] <jenn> soundray, I get this: 0000:01:0b.0
[01:24] <dauoalagio1> LiENUS: what's wrong with gimp and those colours?
[01:24] <dauoalagio1> oh i see.
[01:24] <scumbag> has anyone tried this mezzo thing?
[01:24] <LiENUS> dauoalagio1,  the gimp doesnt support cmyk
[01:25] <harry_> cmyk is better than RBY red yellow blue b/c RBY is Brown-biased
[01:25] <dauoalagio1> LiENUS: well i only have a black and whitep rinter, so whatever haha.
[01:25] <scumbag> mezzo desktop on ubuntu
[01:25] <shark-1> !mezzo
[01:25] <LiENUS> dauoalagio1,  magazines have color
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mezzo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <shark-1> hmm
[01:25] <efface> Does ubuntu have an audio mixer?
[01:25] <soundray> jenn: can you please put up all lspci output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give me the URL
[01:25] <shark-1> what is mezzo
[01:25] <eV64> soundray: Option	    "OpenGLOverlay" "off", is this default for x11.conf?
[01:26] <dauoalagio1> mezzo looks like fun
[01:26] <soundray> efface: yes. Double-click the volume icon in the top panel
[01:26] <dauoalagio1> shark-1, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Symph-032.png
[01:26] <scumbag> shark: some new desktop.. like gnome and kde
[01:26] <soundray> eV64: I don't know.
[01:26] <harry_> it would be nice if Adobe was all cool-like and released CS3 for Linux
[01:26] <efface> ty
[01:26] <gonzo_> rbil, nope, didn't work :(
[01:26] <scumbag> http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c72/Minyaliel/Mezzo2.png
[01:27] <rbil> gonzo_: what does free say?
[01:27] <gonzo_> rbil, swap 0 0
[01:27] <rbil> gonzo_: it should work. what are u trying to do?
[01:27] <harry_> but *everybody* knows that linux users are all communist pirates, so it's not going to happen.
[01:27] <shark-1> who is making mezzo and those who are using it is it smooth?
[01:27] <soundray> harry_: take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:28] <dauoalagio1> it looks very unstable, mezzo.
[01:28] <gonzo_> mount a swap area on boot
[01:28] <harry_> Is it possible to embed an RSS feed into a gnome bar?
[01:28] <scumbag> shark-1: i dont know anything.. just found it using stumble plugin in firefox
[01:28] <ant_> mezzo looks like it was made for the visually impaired
[01:28] <scumbag> it looks fancy
[01:28] <jenn> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11113/
[01:28] <rbil> gonzo_: free | grep Swap
[01:29] <zach635> hey all, bit of trouble with nvidia drivers here.  I have dual monitors and it's displaying everything on the wrong monitor.  I cant seem to fix it in the nvidia control panel with nvidia-settings.  any ideas?
[01:29] <shark-1> zach635, move ur monitors ;)
[01:29] <zach635> genius!
[01:29] <owner> what does everyone think of nvu
[01:29] <waxyfresh> ubuntu 5.10 froze during install at :full name of new user,i cant get to any consols nothting no hard drive light activity nothing.any help?
[01:29] <sethk> zach635, stand on your head
[01:29] <gonzo_> rbil:already started it manually as my laptop wont run any software without it
[01:30] <soundray> jenn: I actually meant all the lines. But never mind, I think you should just try feeding that ID to the appropriate dialog.
[01:30] <shark-1> !nvu
[01:30] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB
[01:30] <mithya> is it inadvaisable to create a dual boot xp/ubuntu on a 20 gb hd?
[01:30] <efface> ok i unmuted my mic in the mixer....and i still can not get my mic working, sound works fine
[01:30] <gonzo_> rbil: I used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[01:30] <waxyfresh> mithya: no
[01:30] <james296> so can anyone tell me WHY I cant run winecfg after installing the latest version of it?
[01:31] <shark-1> sorry guys i dunno what any of this is cuz im on my dads windows comp not my linux box
[01:31] <bimberi> mithya: that would be fine
[01:31] <sethk> mithya, you can strip down the ubuntu size.  windows on 10 gig is more or less possible
[01:31] <ant_> mithya: just give windows 3 GB and ubuntu the rest.
[01:31] <waxyfresh> mithya: depends on what you want to do
[01:31] <ant_> :)
[01:31] <Kronuz> hello
[01:31] <Kronuz> hey, how can I copy a DVD in ubuntu?
[01:31] <Kronuz> (a movie with css protection and stuff)
[01:31] <waxyfresh> Kronuz: yup
[01:31] <Kronuz> <.<
[01:31] <Kronuz> >.>
[01:31] <rbil> gonz0_ so you're starting a swapfile, but isn't the swap partition being used?
[01:31] <soundray> Kronuz: k9copy is supposed to be good
[01:31] <mithya> I primarily want to use XP for everything but Gimp on Ubuntu, I really enjoy the graphics editing program
[01:32] <bimberi> mithya: you can get GIMP for windows
[01:32] <waxyfresh> mithya: you can run gimp on xp
[01:32] <mithya> ahh ok
[01:32] <Kronuz> soundray, but for gnome? (I don't have KDE installed)
[01:32] <gonzo_> rbil: I used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq; no, when I upgraded to 6.10 it deleted it :s
[01:32] <dgoodwin1976> Kronuz: wine with ripit4me, dvdshrink, and dvddecypter
[01:32] <mithya> i was unaware of that
[01:32] <soundray> Kronuz: it will run in gnome.
[01:32] <mithya> I'll do a search
[01:32] <gonzo_> ooops
[01:32] <mithya> thanks
[01:33] <aLeSD> hi all
[01:33] <waxyfresh> mithya: depends on what you want to do
[01:33] <waxyfresh> ubuntu 5.10 froze during install at :full name of new user,i cant get to any consols nothting no hard drive light activity nothing.any help?
[01:33] <aLeSD> I have a problem: how to install firefoc 2.0 ?
[01:33] <bimberi> mithya: yw, hopefully gimp.org will have pointers to the windows port
[01:33] <Kronuz> soundray, but I'll have to have KDE stuff installed
[01:33] <rbil> gonzo_ OH! I didn't know all this time it was a swapfile u were trying to use. But the swap partition shows up with fdisk
[01:33] <mithya> ok take care all
[01:33] <C`> Anyone here got 5.1 sound working???
[01:33] <gonzo_> yup
[01:33] <ant_> sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:33] <gonzo_> rbil: yup
[01:33] <soundray> Kronuz: yes, it will install some library dependencies.
[01:33] <waxyfresh> !firefox
[01:33] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:33] <gonzo_> rbil: sry
[01:33] <beg1689> how come such a popular distro always has such out of date packages?
[01:34] <shark-1> beg1689, feisty is gonna ubdate it all
[01:34] <soundray> beg1689: because the latest isn't necessarily the greatest
[01:34] <gonzo_> rbil: moved over to ubuntu cos my lappy can't handlw windows, and I enjoy something new
[01:34] <bruenig> beg1689, they aim for stability
[01:34] <Kronuz> there's no gnome app to copy a dvd?!
[01:34] <beg1689> well im trying to install something but it cant find libgphoto2 >= 1.3.0
[01:34] <sgentry6> beg1689: not to mention it's based off of debian
[01:34] <bruenig> Kronuz, xdvdshrink
[01:35] <C`> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to work as good as windows?
[01:35] <ant_> ??what??
[01:35] <shark-1> C' what are you trying to do
[01:35] <C`> in terms of sound ....
[01:35] <waxyfresh> ubuntu 5.10 froze during install at :type full name of new user,i cant get to any consols nothting no hard drive light activity nothing.any help?
[01:35] <aLeSD> ubotu: thanks
[01:35] <soundray> C`: just install it.
[01:35] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:35] <gonzo_> C': u u want it to work worse than it already is, lol?
[01:35] <rbil> gonzo_: and this command in fstab (after a reboot) doesn't work? /mnt/512Mb.swap none swap sw 0 0
[01:35] <apokryphos> !sound | C`
[01:35] <ubotu> C`: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:35] <C`> lol I'm just playin
[01:35] <C`> ya man I've tried everything
[01:35] <sgentry6> beg1689: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/feisty/libs/libgphoto2-2
[01:36] <C`> it works with a speaker-test -6 channels command
[01:36] <apokryphos> C`: no, I don't believe you have.
[01:36] <C`> but not with apps
[01:36] <gonzo_> rbil: no it has the same effect as the /dev/hda5 command
[01:36] <shark-1> are ur speakers plugged in?
[01:36] <C`> yes
[01:36] <waxyfresh> bruenig: trolls?montain trolls or just your normal type?
[01:36] <soundray> waxyfresh: why are you installing an outdated version?
[01:36] <sgentry6> beg1689: hopefully that one will work for you :)
[01:36] <shark-1> are they on?
[01:36] <Kresjah> I quick and dirty question from a newbie. How to I backup X.org video driber?
[01:36] <beg1689> thank you, ill try it
[01:36] <C`> speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -l1 -twav <--- that command works I hear output
[01:36] <Kresjah> s/driber/driver
[01:36] <C`> yes
[01:36] <shark-1> what are you trying to hear?
[01:36] <soundray> Kresjah: make a copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:36] <shark-1> is alsa taking it up
[01:36] <C`> anything with 5.1
[01:37] <shark-1> brb
[01:37] <C`> nah like I tried with amarok, nothing, I tried with xmms, nothing etc
[01:37] <waxyfresh> soundray: its an old computer that my wife will use for just myspace/gaim and its all i got my cd burner busted
[01:37] <beg1689> bah
[01:37] <iMac_Support> Watch out, Google! If K-Fed is as good at developing search algorithms as he is at rapping, you've got well, nothing to worry about, I guess.
[01:37] <sgentry6> beg1689: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/libs/libgphoto2-port0.en.html try that one if you want to use the edgy version rather than the feisty version
[01:37] <beg1689> it depends on other stuf i have old versions of
[01:37] <SammyF> hey there. how can I start conqoper or mordord (for example)? when I try as a user I lack the priviledges, when I try using sudo then bash doesn't find the files (even if I'm in the directory they are in, whcih is /usr/games)
[01:37] <bruenig> Kresjah, you can back up the whole xorg.conf with sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[01:37] <Thiesen> Ubuntu isn't working as good as Windows. Ubuntu is working better.
[01:37] <pollywog> K-Fed got a job?
[01:37] <iMac_Support> http://lwn.net/images/conf/ols+ks2005/linus-fun.jpg lol
[01:38] <rbil> gonzo_: have u read near end of the article about turning off swap, recreating swap partition and then swapon -a ?
[01:38] <Kresjah> bruenig: But that only backs up the config, not the old driver itself, right?
[01:38] <bruenig> Kresjah, right
[01:38] <beg1689> is it posible to add the feisty repo just for the purpose of grabbing all the packages i need?
[01:38] <beg1689> for this one program
[01:38] <bruenig> beg1689, bad idea
[01:38] <gonzo_> yeh, I'll give it another go now
[01:38] <LjL> beg1689: bad idea
[01:38] <bruenig> beg1689, what do you need
[01:38] <beg1689> ok ok
[01:38] <YokoZar> beg1689: if you're talking about Wine go get the backports repo
[01:38] <Kresjah> bruenig: But it's the driver I'm going to replace, thus I need to backup the driver, not the config
[01:38] <beg1689> libgphoto >= 1.3.0
[01:38] <shark-1> ubuntu + widescreen = sexiness
[01:39] <bruenig> Kresjah, yeah my fault
[01:39] <beg1689> ok ;)
[01:39] <C`> ubuntu + no sound = sadness
[01:39] <YokoZar> beg1689: I'll be releasing a fix for Wine in a few hours
[01:39] <SammyF> shark-1, try ubuntu and dual head :)
[01:39] <soundray> waxyfresh: bad news indeed
[01:39] <aaaaaaaaaaa> hey anyone using feisty here?
[01:39] <soundray> waxyfresh: do you know about the CD-free installation methods?
[01:39] <ant_> i use ubuntu and my computer has sound.
[01:39] <C`> if ubuntu was a person would you have sex with it?
[01:39] <bruenig> beg1689, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgphoto2/libgphoto2-2_2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libgphoto2-2_2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2_i386.deb
[01:39] <soundray> aaaaaaaaaaa: ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:39] <waxyfresh> soundray: nope
[01:39] <soundray> aaaaaaaaaaa: and get a non-annoying nick
[01:40] <ant_> no, cuz 1 in 4 people from africa have aids.
[01:40] <Prez_> I need several simultaneous hits on my site, is it ok if i post my url so a couple of you guys can hit it?  don't want to get banned for posting a url..
[01:40] <soundray> ubotu, please tell waxyfresh about install
[01:40] <C`> ubuntu isn't really from africa is it?
[01:40] <shark-1> SammyF, wish i could but dont have the money for another widescreen and my parents dont think its worth it
[01:40] <Thiesen> I hope Ati will release another driver before the final release of Feisty
[01:40] <non`annoying`nic> soundray: better?
[01:40] <shark-1> C' yes the zulu people made it with rocks and wood
[01:40] <ant_> lol
[01:40] <jva> how do i stop minimizing the window when i hit the up arrow on the keyboard??
[01:40] <storm-zen> In order for my wacom mouse to work, I have to run wacdump every time I reboot... does anyone know why?
[01:40] <bruenig> beg1689, here is the other thing you need for wine: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgphoto2/libgphoto2-port0_2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libgphoto2-port0_2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2_i386.deb
[01:40] <C`> no seriously?
[01:40] <Kalle_> !pastebin
[01:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:40] <SammyF> shark-1, ahh .. yep. I had the luck that my boss was selling a 21'' IBM CRT for 50 euros :)
[01:40] <waxyfresh> ant_: please  be more tollerant
[01:40] <soundray> non`annoying`nic: only slightly ;)
[01:40] <shark-1> C' im just kidding
[01:40] <pollywog> I think just the name os from Africa
[01:40] <ant_> :X
[01:40] <C`> oh ok
[01:40] <pollywog> is
[01:40] <C`> I was about to uninstall
[01:41] <kghunt> ok I installed beryl and added it to the startup sessions. now gnome doesnt load how do i disable it from the root terminal in recovery mode?
[01:41] <slavik> where is the default GNOME session-script located?
[01:41] <flafla> can anyone suggest an mp3 player comparable to amarok?
[01:41] <soundray> pollywog: the SABDFL is South African
[01:41] <gonzo_> rbil: I can mount the swap after boot, but dosn't fstab make it so I dont have to type swapon /mnt/576Mb.swap after every boot?
[01:41] <beg1689> bruenig: thanks, worked like a charm
[01:41] <pollywog> soundray: oic
[01:41] <shark-1> C' i dont want you to take offensive of my sarcasm :)
[01:41] <someone1> hey, i need help setting up my wireless card on ubuntu 6.10, i have a dlink G520 rev b card, i can't run network-admin, it keeps telling me i don't have permission
[01:41] <bruenig> flafla, listen, exaile
[01:41] <someone1> even when i run it using gksu
[01:41] <SammyF> sigh ... anybody about conqoper and mordor?
[01:42] <shark-1> the name and slogan and everything is from africa
[01:42] <pollywog> well that's good
[01:42] <rbil> gonzo_: I still don't understand why u aren't just using the swap partition as opposed to a swapfile?
[01:42] <andre_pl> i just installed edgy on a toshiba satellite P4 w/ ATI Mobility 9000, install went fine, logging into gdm works, but gnome hangs with an empty grey window.
[01:42] <shark-1> just a question why is the pastebin on ubuntu.nl
[01:42] <storm-zen> Supposing my son shut off my computer right after a major install... is there any way to go back and get the error messages?
[01:42] <gonzo_> don't have a swap partition
[01:42] <slavik> pollywog: my xgl session doesn't crash ...
[01:42] <pollywog> slavik: on Beryl?
[01:42] <soundray> andre_pl: can you start a failsafe session (option in gdm)?
[01:42] <slavik> pollywog: correct
[01:42] <kghunt> problems booting after beryl installation any help?
[01:42] <waxyfresh> shark-1: then dont make racist/judgemental "jokes" in a room full of people whos natinalitys you dont know,or preferably dont make them at all
[01:42] <SammyF> storm-zen, hmm ... you're probably thankfull that it's just a supposition, right? :P
[01:42] <bruenig> kghunt, #ubuntu-effects
[01:43] <waxyfresh> ubuntu 5.10 froze during install at :type full name of new user,i cant get to any consols nothting no hard drive light activity nothing.any help?
[01:43] <Kronuz> soundray, so k9copy has decss support out of the box?
[01:43] <someone1> wireless help... anybody?
[01:43] <shark-1> waxyfresh, im sorry you are right
[01:43] <storm-zen> SammyF: Yeah... can't imagine if I really had a need for the information ...
[01:43] <andre_pl> soundray: no. same thing
[01:43] <waxyfresh> someone1: whats up?
[01:43] <ant_> waxy, aids doesnt have anything to do with race/nationality
[01:43] <gonzo_> it was def not mounting it on boot neways
[01:43] <Kresjah> How do I backup X.org video driver?
[01:43] <someone1> i can hold as long as i'm acknowledged, i understand there might be a line
[01:43] <SammyF> storm-zen, sorry .. I'm a linux noob, so I can't really help you except to try to cheer you up a bit
[01:43] <soundray> andre_pl: can you login on the console? (Ctrl-Alt-F1)
[01:43] <bruenig> someone1, you didn't even ask a question
[01:43] <pollywog> ant: more ppl should play with computers|Ubuntu instead
[01:43] <waxyfresh> shark-1: no problem
[01:44] <someone1> i just installed 6.10, and i needed to run the alternate install due to video driver issues, so after that, i ran in recover mode to set X up using VESA drivers
[01:44] <someone1> yes i did ask a question...
[01:44] <andre_pl> soundray: already there
[01:44] <storm-zen> SammyF: I'm a ubuntu noob... Installed it for said son so that he could "have games" ...
[01:44] <someone1> after that, i tried setting up my wireless, though during install i ahd set that up
[01:44] <bruenig> !enter
[01:44] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:44] <someone1> now i don't know how to set it up, i followed online docs, but it tells me to run apps i don't have permissino to run
[01:44] <waxyfresh> someone1: whats not working with your wireless
[01:44] <someone1> even in recover mode
[01:44] <soundray> andre_pl: the logs to check are $HOME/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:45] <someone1> well, i can't connect to the internet, and i don't have a way to set it up so i can get it working, i can't laod the network-manager
[01:45] <waxyfresh> someone1: type sudo -su APPNAME
[01:45] <shark-1> someone1 cant you use sudo or su and run the sapp
[01:45] <andre_pl> soundray: no real errors. just about /dev/wacom
[01:45] <Crazy4Linux> Hi everyone... Im using ubuntu dapper, Im trying to use totem movie player, keep getting error that movie player doesnt have correct codecs, Im running gstreamer, what am I doing wrong?
[01:45] <tecta> in soundconverter the mp3 option is disabled
[01:45] <someone1> i've tried that, it keeps saying i don't have persmissions to write to the file
[01:45] <waxyfresh> someone1: you have the admin password?
[01:45] <bruenig> !codecs | Crazy4Linux
[01:45] <ubotu> Crazy4Linux: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <slavik> soundray: remember my boot issue? turns out the isntaller gave root=/dev/hda1 to the kernel instead of sda1 ... go figure
[01:45] <someone1> i do not have the admin password
[01:45] <waxyfresh> someone1: do you have a live cd?
[01:45] <SeanTater> I got my wireless to work (*kisses laptop*), but it's rtt is about 300 milliseconds -- that sucks! Any ideas what I shoudl tweak?
[01:45] <Crazy4Linux> thank you
[01:45] <bruenig> someone1, just use gksudo application, and then put your user password
[01:45] <waxyfresh> someone1: is the computer yours?
[01:45] <SeanTater>  /should/
[01:45] <linuxn00b> Coudl I get help installing a GUI on server?  No, I won't be keeping it, but it'd be useful to me for the time being.
[01:46] <someone1> yes, but it won't load, i needed to install using the alternate cd due to driver issues
[01:46] <storm-zen> andre_pl: You have an issue with a wacom tablet, too?
[01:46] <soundray> andre_pl: check 'df -h' and see if any of your partitions are full
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> someone1: its your password.
[01:46] <andre_pl> nope
[01:46] <bruenig> linuxn00b, what do you have in mind? gnome, kde, xfce, full fledged or minimal
[01:46] <Kresjah> *sigh*
[01:46] <tecta> anyone know why?
[01:46] <soundray> slavik: have you reported that? It's probably worth doing.
[01:46] <someone1> either way, it won't let me load, i tried entering my passsword before
[01:46] <andre_pl> soundray: tons of room
[01:46] <waxyfresh> someone1: in the help section there should be something aboute recovering root passwords
[01:46] <tecta> i installed all the gstreamer stuff
[01:47] <slavik> soundray: launchpad?
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> waxyfresh: i thought it was just your default password+
[01:47] <C`> tecta, why what
[01:47] <ant_> someone1 : how are you logged in if you dont have the password?>
[01:47] <soundray> ubotu, tell slavik about bugs
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> if he hasn't changed it.
[01:47] <someone1> i have my password...
[01:47] <andre_pl> soundray: how do I install the best ATI Drivers for this card?
[01:47] <tecta> C`, mp3 option is disabled in soundconverter
[01:47] <linuxn00b> Anything, will work.  I'm familiar with KDE, but one is much the same as another.  I'm trying to build a router out of my linux box. ;)  Instructions online seem to use a GUI...
[01:47] <slavik> soundray: ty
[01:47] <soundray> andre_pl: create a new user with 'sudo adduser test' and login as test to see if the same issue arises
[01:47] <C`> oh damn i dunno man u use automatix?
[01:47] <someone1> well... funny story, when installing, i typed in a password w/ an apostrophe, then when i tried loggin in, it wouldn't work, so i loaded in recover mode
[01:47] <waxyfresh> IndyGunFreak: i think it says you can hange the root password with a live cd,
[01:47] <soundray> andre_pl: it's unlikely to be a driver issue if gdm starts.
[01:47] <someone1> did a sudo deluser, and then a sudo adduser
[01:48] <bruenig> ant_, admin password is a confusing term because other distros have a root password as well as a user password, so he was probably thinking you meant root when you said admin and since ubuntu has no root password...
[01:48] <greig_> whats the command to view any mounted/unmounted hdds please
[01:48] <SammyF> I'll just try it again : there are some applications I apparently cannot start (conqoper and mordor are just two examples). As a user I lack the authorisations, and when I use sudo APPNAME bash doesn't find the apliation, even if I'm in the directory. Any help?
[01:48] <soundray> greig_: sudo fdisk -l
[01:48] <linuxn00b> bruenig: Anything, will work.  I'm familiar with KDE, but one is much the same as another.  I'm trying to build a router out of my linux box. ;)  Instructions online seem to use a GUI...
[01:48] <greig_> soundray :  thanks
[01:48] <storm-zen> SammyF: Can "where" find them?
[01:48] <C`> too bad ubuntu isn't as good as windows
[01:48] <sorush20> I long for the day that a usefull popup would come up after a fresh install and ask me to install many impo things just with a chech list
[01:48] <waxyfresh> someone1: why not reinstall?make a real simple password that your keybored wont have issues with
[01:48] <bruenig> linuxn00b, well sudo apt-get install kde-core will give you a simple kde gui
[01:49] <C`> bah didn't get attention that time =\
[01:49] <someone1> :/
[01:49] <tecta> C`, u know why
[01:49] <linuxn00b> bruenig: Danke.  Start-x from term wil get it up and going once installed?
[01:49] <someone1> there's no way to get the network manager to load?
[01:49] <C`> lol
[01:49] <SammyF> storm-zen, aehm ... "where"? that's not a command I know (nor bash apparently)
[01:49] <someone1> sudo -su network-admin won't work?
[01:49] <bruenig> linuxn00b, probably
[01:49] <C`> tecta, you use automatix?
[01:49] <bruenig> !automatix
[01:49] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:49] <tecta> C`, No
[01:49] <ant_> bruenig was quick with that.
[01:49] <soundray> storm-zen: locate, whereis, which -- but "where" doesn't exist
[01:50] <C`> tecta, you can get the mp3 codecs from it, I used it and everything has support
[01:50] <storm-zen> sammyf Sorry... meant whereis...
[01:50] <bruenig> !automatix | C`
[01:50] <ubotu> C`: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:50] <shark-1> remember automatix is unsupported and may sometimes cause problems
[01:50] <rEvolution27> how do I get write access to an ntfs usb hard drive?
[01:50] <andre_pl> soundray: works for test, not the other user though :(
[01:50] <C`> yes thx bruenig
[01:50] <SammyF> storm-zen, yes. It does
[01:50] <bruenig> !ntfs-3g | rEvolution27
[01:50] <ubotu> rEvolution27: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:50] <qopi> !Mplayer
[01:50] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[01:50] <tecta> C`, C is mad lol
[01:50] <Noah0504> haha, I never knew automatix was discouraged by the Ubuntu team.
[01:50] <Noah0504> I guess it makes sense though.
[01:50] <flafla> bruenig: looked at exaile and listen... tx for the reply
[01:51] <soundray> andre_pl: that's good news, because you've narrowed the problem down to the user config.
[01:51] <tecta> bruenig, i have lame and all gst plugins and gstreamer shouldnt that be enough
[01:51] <bruenig> flafla, they aren't equivalent certainly but they try
[01:51] <bruenig> with the lyrics and wikipedia and the such
[01:51] <gonzo_> d news, it is now working on the original partition!
[01:51] <waxyfresh> ubuntu 5.10 froze during install at :type full name of new user,i cant get to any consols nothting no hard drive light activity nothing.any help? sorry for repeating my self but my wife keeps asking to use my computer and will continue untill i get hers fixed.i dont like others touching becky um i mean my copmuter
[01:51] <linuxn00b> Next question, I have 3 NICs installed.  One onboard, a linksys, and an IBM.  From CLI, how do I determine which is the default in-use?
[01:51] <shark-1> Noah0504, automatix can sometimes lead to problems with upgrading and finding programs
[01:51] <storm-zen> sammyf does whereis still find the app if you use sudo?
[01:51] <waxyfresh> copmuter?
[01:52] <soundray> andre_pl: don't know which that would be, though, since it blocks both gnome and failsafe
[01:52] <SammyF> storm-zen, yes. it does too :/
[01:52] <pfsams1> answ
[01:52] <storm-zen> sammyf.. .hmm.. interesting.  Can't really help any more than that, sorry.
[01:52] <soundray> andre_pl: what did you change that brought this on?
[01:52] <andre_pl> soundray: nothing, fresh install
[01:52] <flafla> bruenig: yeah... noticed ;)  I generally prefer to stick with none KDE specific apps but for this one I'll stick with amarok hehe
[01:52] <andre_pl> very first boot
[01:52] <shark-1> waxyfresh, are you an op?
[01:52] <Noah0504> shark-1: I know, I just didn't know it was "officially" discouraged.
[01:52] <Flannel> waxyfresh: You ought to use a newer version.  Breezy only has a month left to live anyway.
[01:52] <waxyfresh> shark-1: op? no
[01:53] <ant_> !ops
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[01:53] <SammyF> storm-zen, thanks anyway :) I just checked the perms, belongs to root, 755 .. so it SHOULD work
[01:53] <bruenig> uh oh
[01:53] <LjL> ant_: what?
[01:53] <apokryphos> ant30: yes?
[01:53] <waxyfresh> Flannel: ill upgrade when i get it running but its the only install cd i have
[01:53] <apokryphos> * ant_
[01:53] <nalioth> ant_: can we help you?
[01:53] <PriceChild> ant_, ?
[01:53] <ant_> whoa
[01:53] <gonzo_> d news, it is now working on the original partition!:)
[01:53] <andre_pl> soundray: i blew away the entire home directory and no dice.
[01:53] <ant_> sorry ops
[01:53] <PriceChild> argh
[01:53] <andre_pl> i'll delete and recreate the user i guess
[01:53] <shark-1> lol
[01:53] <ant30> what ?
[01:53] <Amaranth> ant_: yes?
[01:53] <shark-1> BAN!!!!
[01:53] <Flannel> waxyfresh: does the Breezy CD have an integrity checker?  I can't remember.
[01:53] <LjL> ant_: that command should ONLY be used in emergencies
[01:53] <PriceChild> he was showing shark-1 who the ops were :( LjL apokryphos :(
[01:53] <apokryphos> ant_: do NOT abuse that, please.
[01:53] <shark-1> amaranth why are you an amaranth
[01:53] <ant_> sorry
[01:53] <waxyfresh> Flannel: i dont know
[01:54] <bruenig> ah no kick, where is the fun
[01:54] <ant_> didnt know it would do that
[01:54] <soundray> andre_pl: in that case, copy /etc/skel to your home
[01:54] <apokryphos> ant_: recommend /cs access #ubuntu list instead
[01:54] <Flannel> waxyfresh: At the boot menu, does it give you an option to check the integrity of the CD?
[01:54] <Amaranth> shark-1: I've answered this before.
[01:54] <waxyfresh> brb
[01:54] <linuxn00b> Define emergency for this n00b?
[01:54] <ant_> that was like calling the cops or something
[01:54] <soundray> andre_pl: 'sudo cp -a /etc/skel /home/andre ; chown -R andre.andre /home/andre'
[01:54] <salah> what packages do I need to have to get gnome to start up? I already have xserver, gdm and gnome installed
[01:54] <waxyfresh> Flannel: ill check,is there a way to check for bad sectors before installing?
[01:54] <fizz_> anyone alive?
[01:54] <LjL> linuxn00b: channel flooding, very abusive behavior such as spam...
[01:54] <bimberi> ant_: congratulations.  you got the attention of more ops than i've seen for a while :)
[01:54] <shark-1> Amaranth, i know but i forgot who it was that kept asking that question so now i just do because i think your pretty kool
[01:54] <apokryphos> !anyone
[01:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:54] <erisco> fizz_, all zombies here
[01:54] <Flannel> waxyfresh: That'll let you know (if it exists), if your CD is bad.
[01:55] <linuxn00b> Help? I have 3 NICs installed.  One onboard, a linksys, and an IBM.  From CLI, how do I determine which is the default in-use?
[01:55] <SammyF> fizz_, no .. we're all bots
[01:55] <fizz_> oops wrong channel sorry
[01:55] <SammyF> erisco beat me to it .. grrr
[01:55] <jorge__> alguien habla castellano?
[01:55] <Pollywog> jorge__: #ubuntu-es
[01:55] <erisco> SammyF, you can take it next time ;)
[01:55] <salah> jorge__, no, #ubuntu-es
[01:55] <C`> is this the offical ubuntu channel? like with developers etc?
[01:55] <shark-1> linuxn00b, try them all?
[01:55] <jorge__> gracias...
[01:55] <salah> denada
[01:55] <shark-1> C' its more the support channel
[01:55] <Flannel> C`: this is an official ubuntu channel.  This one is for support.
[01:56] <PriceChild> C`, this is support. -devel for development
[01:56] <Amaranth> shark-1: I picked a random cool sounding word from a google search
[01:56] <C`> any hot girls here?
[01:56] <salah> what packages do I need to have to get gnome to start up? I already have xserver, gdm and gnome installed
[01:56] <shark-1> Amaranth, i know
[01:56] <C`> who you know ....wanna get down and dirty the linux way
[01:56] <LjL> !offtopic | C`
[01:56] <salah> C` yes plz priv me
[01:56] <linuxn00b> C: What do you care?  You think *dos is better than Ubuntu?  Purely subjective. ;)
[01:56] <SammyF> erisco, too kind of you ;)
[01:56] <ubotu> C`: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:56] <LjL> c`: this is the official Ubuntu *support* channel
[01:56] <Pollywog> C` you mean as in on fire?
[01:56] <waxyfresh> Flannel: its not memtestis it thats for ram right?
[01:56] <erisco> SammyF, I am going to another channel anywho, see ya
[01:56] <C`> =\
[01:56] <SammyF> bbye erisco
[01:56] <Flannel> waxyfresh: right.  that's for RAM.
[01:56] <Rrandy> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to disable IPV6 in the live CD without installing to HD?
[01:56] <LjL> c`: this is the official Ubuntu *support* channel. everything else is offtopic.
[01:56] <C`> I'll take that as a no
[01:56] <EdgEy> to whoever recommended i make a script for bandwidth usage, thankyou, i have something basic running now :)
[01:57] <C`> sorry man just killing time till someone can help me :)
[01:57] <LjL> Rrandy: it certainly should, just about everything is possible on the live cd, as long as RAM doesn't fall short
[01:57] <salah> any idea to my question?
[01:57] <andre_pl> I deleted and recreated the ser and it does the SAME THING
[01:57] <andre_pl> thats messed up
[01:57] <Marupa> Is there a plugin for shoutcast for rhythmbox?
[01:57] <[Chiko_Gogo] > Wenas a Todo@s! :D
[01:57] <linuxn00b> How do I start my GUI after installing kde-core?
[01:57] <[Chiko_Gogo] > ..`> alguien q sepa espaol?
[01:58] <Marupa> to stream, I mean.
[01:58] <waxyfresh> Flannel: no luck
[01:58] <LjL> !es > [Chiko_Gogo]     ([Chiko_Gogo] , see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:58] <C`> linuxn00b, startx
[01:58] <Pollywog> salah you might try installing ubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <ootm> hi, how do i stop x starting on boot - i looked for /etc/inittab but its not there
[01:58] <Pollywog> then I think you will have everything
[01:58] <Rrandy> LjL: Great!  Is anyone able to tell me how to do that?  I know how to do it if I install, i'm not sure how to start with it disabled from the live cd.
[01:58] <soundray> SammyF: feel free to repeat the question if 10 minutes or more have passed
[01:58] <linuxn00b> It's not working. ;)
[01:58] <Flannel> waxyfresh: then yeah, it's most likely a bad disk.
[01:58] <PriceChild> linuxn00b, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[01:58] <Pollywog> even with just installing gnome I think you would have what you need
[01:59] <salah> Pollywog, there it was, thanks a lot
[01:59] <[Chiko_Gogo] > de q hablais?
[01:59] <[Chiko_Gogo] > q es esto?
[01:59] <linuxn00b> Instead, how do I determine which nic to lug my cat5e into?  I'm not sure which is currently the one to use.
[01:59] <Flannel> !es | [Chiko_Gogo]
[01:59] <ubotu> [Chiko_Gogo] : Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:59] <PriceChild> !es | [Chiko_Gogo]
[01:59] <shark-1> its great there are many spanish speaking people as well as other ethnicities that use ubuntu. it brings everyone together and while many are different we are unified
[01:59] <Marupa> Trying to DJ, tried darkice, but that doesn't work with esd OR alsa.  I can't figure out how to get darkice to use alsa, anyway.  it always says it's not compiled in/can't find it.
[01:59] <soundray> ootm: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm -f remove'
[01:59] <SammyF> soundray, heh ... okay ;)
[01:59] <[Chiko_Gogo] > !es
[02:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:00] <[Chiko_Gogo] > q es eso?
[02:00] <ootm> soundray: i dont want to remove x, just prevent it from starting
[02:00] <[Chiko_Gogo] > alguien me entiende?
[02:00] <shark-1> Marupa, try terminatorX
[02:00] <soundray> ootm: that command will do what you want
[02:00] <SammyF> I'll just try it again : there are some applications I apparently cannot start (conqoper and mordor are just two examples). As a user I lack the authorisations, and when I use sudo APPNAME bash doesn't find the apliation, even if I'm in the directory. Any help?
[02:00] <greig_> can i create a short cut from /media folder?
[02:00] <soundray> ootm: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm -f defaults' to revert
[02:00] <Pollywog> Chiko: #ubuntu-es and you will be understood
[02:01] <PriceChild> [Chiko_Gogo]  /join #ubuntu-es
[02:01] <soundray> SammyF: are those games?
[02:01] <[Chiko_Gogo] > ok
[02:01] <Flannel> SammyF: kdesu or gksu for graphical programs.  That's likely your problem.  Delete the Xauthority and ICEauthority files in your homedir
[02:01] <andre_pl> soundray: i created 2 new users, both of which work fine, but deleted and recreated the same user 3 times and all three times he can't log in
[02:01] <Pollywog> ty PriceChild
[02:01] <ant_> soundray : will that allow me to boot into console rather than straight into x?
[02:01] <Pollywog> I should have said it like that
[02:01] <[Chiko_Gogo] > thank you PriceChild
[02:01] <ootm> soundray: tnx
[02:01] <PriceChild> [Chiko_Gogo] , good luck :)
[02:01] <SammyF> soundray, in this case yes. I just named those cause they were the problem I just had now
[02:02] <soundray> andre_pl: check and compare the permissions on the different home directories
[02:02] <andre_pl> soundray: k
[02:02] <soundray> ant_: yes
[02:02] <Marupa> shark-1, That's not casting my current stream.
[02:02] <SammyF> Flannel, console applications. Both are servers. I'll try deleting Xauthority and ICEauthority
[02:02] <shark-1> Marupa, oh
[02:02] <Flannel> SammyF: oh, they're servers?  Nevermind then.  That's not your issue.
[02:02] <PriceChild> !ops
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[02:02] <ant_> soundray : man i've looked all over the place for something like that... everyone says to edit inittab.. its not there anymore
[02:03] <nalioth> PriceChild: yes?
[02:03] <Kooka> nacht zusammen || cya all and good night :)
[02:03] <SammyF> Flannel, okay ... thanks anyway :)
[02:03] <Amaranth> PriceChild: ?
[02:03] <linuxn00b> Look, this is beyond frustrating. I just want to know, from CLI, how to determine which device (of 3 installed) I'm using for internet.  Any help?  PLZ?
[02:03] <PriceChild> sorry.... #ubuntu-ops
[02:03] <Factory> Hey guys. Is there a reason I can't install any of the themese I find from this site: http://customize.org/gtk ?
[02:03] <soundray> ant_: inittab went away when upstart replaced sysvinit
[02:03] <SammyF> Flannel, my gfx card gave up on me, so I have an old one in there. therefore it's nethack or console stuff at the moment if I want to play :)
[02:04] <Flannel> SammyF: ah, welcome to my world!
[02:04] <Pollywog> linuxn00b: ifconfig -a
[02:04] <linuxn00b> Anyone?
[02:04] <Pollywog> sudo that
[02:04] <soundray> SammyF: mordor comes with several binaries. See them with 'ls /usr/games/mordor*'
[02:04] <linuxn00b> Sorry, scroll was messed up.
[02:04] <SammyF> Flannel, can I leave your world asap please? I was sooo happy when I got OGRE3D to compile yesterday, and now I can't even write anything for it ;)
[02:04] <Pollywog> linuxn00b: sudo ifconfig -a
[02:05] <shark-1> Ogre3d?
[02:05] <Flannel> SammyF: well, for most servers, you'll want to run with sudo.  Although, I imagine they have an init daemon. Yeah.
[02:05] <Flannel> SammyF: so, to start mordor, `sudo /etc/init.d/mordor restart`
[02:05] <ant_> soundray: lets say i ran that command and then later changed my mind.. how would i reverse that so that it booted back into x?
[02:05] <soundray> ant_: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm -f defaults' to revert
[02:05] <shark-1> SammyF, what is ogre 3d
[02:06] <SammyF> Flannel, indeed!
[02:06] <ant_> soundray : your a ubuntu hero
[02:06] <SammyF> Flannel, thanks!!
[02:06] <Flannel> SammyF: and, I suppose you mustve misspelt the first one.  Since, I don't see it in the repos.
[02:06] <soundray> ant_: I know
[02:06] <tecta> C`,
[02:06] <Stormx2> Hey folks. I've written a document as a html file. What would be the best way of spell checking it?
[02:06] <Flannel> SammyF: I assumed you meant konqueror, which is why I mentioned the --authority stuff.
[02:06] <shark-1> ant_ no amaranth is an ubuntu hero
[02:06] <C`> sup tecta
[02:06] <tecta> C`, u like automatix?
[02:06] <linuxn00b> After installing kde-core, still can't get GUI to load up?
[02:06] <Flannel> Stormx2: aspell could.  I'm sure there's GUI stuff too.
[02:06] <soundray> shark-1: there can only be one
[02:07] <ant_> shark-1 : the geeks are out today...
[02:07] <SammyF> shark-1, Ogre3d is an open source object oriented 3D engine. a very good one, and it runs under MacOSX, Win and Linux . check ogre3d.org if you want. some very nifty stuff there :)
[02:07] <Pollywog> linuxn00b: did you restart the session manager?
[02:07] <Amaranth> soundray: I win. :)
[02:07] <Pollywog> do /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:07] <Pollywog> do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:07] <Ademan> ew ogre3d
[02:07] <shark-1> SammyF, is it for games?
[02:07] <SammyF> Flannel, the other one is conquest. the manual says to start "conqoper" to setup a game.
[02:07] <linuxn00b> pollywog: No. Humor me and elaborate on how to do so?
[02:07] <Ademan> shark-1: its for whatever you need rendered
[02:08] <Stormx2> ChanServ giveth ops, ChanServ taketh away. You lose too, Amaranth.
[02:08] <Ademan> well whatever you need rendered poorly
[02:08] <FreeKFC_Guy> is there any offline web browseing technology available in ubuntu?
[02:08] <Pollywog> linuxn00b: scroll up a few lines
[02:08] <ant_> all hail chanserv
[02:08] <jva> can anyone tell me which packages do i need to play movies, mp3s and etc?
[02:08] <Amaranth> Stormx2: ChanServ giveth on command :)
[02:08] <Factory> Hey guys. Is there a reason I can't install any of the themese I find from this site: http://customize.org/gtk ?
[02:08] <Pollywog> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:08] <SammyF> shark-1, principally, yes. Although I wrote a 3D file explorer with it once, and that didn't really qualify as a game (it was for Windows though)
[02:08] <C`> tecta, I've had no problems with it, however if they don't support it here I won't promote it
[02:08] <Ademan> anyone familiar with "peer guradian" know if there's a free equivalent?
[02:08] <jva> because it currently says it does not have the appropriate decoders
[02:08] <shark-1> SammyF, make one for ubuntu
[02:08] <Amaranth> Factory: looks like they all need different theme engines
[02:08] <Stormx2> OOo is so ugly...
[02:09] <soundray> FreeKFC_Guy: wwwoffle for example -- find others with 'apt-cache search web proxy'
[02:09] <SammyF> shark-1, there is an #ogre3d channel on freenet btw, if you want to know more
[02:09] <Factory> Thank you amaranth
[02:09] <linuxn00b> pollywog: "/etc/inti.d/gdm restart" command not found
[02:09] <Amaranth> Factory: which you need to find a package for or compile, theme engines are regular C code
[02:09] <Pollywog> FreeKFC_Guy: curl?
[02:09] <Amaranth> Factory: the murrina engine is the main one you want to look for
[02:09] <Pollywog> linuxn00b: are you using KDE?
[02:09] <SammyF> shark-1, once I get a new shiny gfx card I probably might do something similar, yes
[02:09] <Pollywog> or Gnome
[02:09] <Factory> might that be in the ubuntu repos, Amallya ?
[02:09] <Factory> er
[02:09] <Factory> Amaranth,
[02:09] <Flannel> SammyF: I'd try "conquest", "conqinit", or maybe "conquestsh", juding by the files in the package.  Try "man conquest" though, that might give you hte command
[02:09] <soundray> linuxn00b: inti?
[02:10] <Ademan> Ogre3D code is portable, i dunno why you couldn't recompile it for linux...
[02:10] <FreeKFC_Guy> i just saw video about apollo is i thought there might be something available on ubuntu
[02:10] <Amaranth> Factory: only in the development version
[02:10] <Pollywog> linuxn00b: init
[02:10] <Factory> I see. Thank you
[02:10] <Amaranth> Factory: in 6.06 or 6.10 you have to compile it yourself
[02:10] <Amaranth> Factory: unless gnome-look.org has a deb
[02:10] <linuxn00b> Pollywog: I'm using Ubuntu Server.  Trying to install a GUI (temporarily).  I was told to apt-get kde-ciore and that would do it, but no luck thus far. ;)
[02:10] <Pollywog> if I said inti it was a typo sorry
[02:10] <Marupa> Is there any sort of utility to copy hwplug:0,0 to /dev/dsp so that I can grab it from there instead of dealing with DarkIce's lack of ALSA support?
[02:10] <Pollywog> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:11] <m1r_0> what is good rss reader program for ubuntu ?
[02:11] <Pollywog> oh then do /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:11] <Amaranth> linuxn00b: i bet if you try to install gnome-panel and metacity you'll pull in enough to get some sort of X desktop
[02:11] <Factory> Amaranth, but it will be in feisty? now that's good news =)
[02:11] <Flannel> linuxn00b: If you're installing a GUI, you probably want to go with something a bit more lightweight than KDE.  Maybe try fluxbox? or even xfce?
[02:11] <linuxn00b> pollywog: Sorry, that was a typo.  It was "init" on my linux box.
[02:11] <SammyF> Ademann, because I wrote it like 2 years ago, it was my first Ogre3D programm, so the code is rather nasty, and I used some weird lib back then, that doesn't exist for Linux. besides, I generally don't like to rehash something I already did :)
[02:11] <Amaranth> Factory: yep, it's in universe
[02:11] <shark-1> linuxn00b, have u tried sudo apptitude ubuntu-desktop?
[02:11] <mixium> l
[02:11] <Flannel> linuxn00b: you'll also need an xserver
[02:11] <Pollywog> linuxn00b: see what some other ppl are saying to you
[02:11] <Factory> Amaranth, now that is good news =D
[02:11] <m1r_0> some good rss reader program ?*
[02:12] <Pollywog> I think you still have to install a desktop or something
[02:12] <shark-1> factory u trying murrine engine?
[02:12] <ant_> ubuntu-desktop is installed with the core no?
[02:12] <Flannel> ant_: No.
[02:12] <Pollywog> I think so
[02:12] <Pollywog> oic
[02:12] <shark-1> not on server version right?
[02:12] <Factory> shark-1, Yessir
[02:13] <iAmTheDave> is there any reason my ubuntu net install would be getting stuck on the "select and install software" at 6% (both a laptop regular install and vmware on a PC)
[02:13] <ad0le> is there a specific package or documentation for the nvidia 96xx series of drivers. I can only get it to work by installing the nvidia installer and then as soon as I reboot it complains that the driver version doesnt match the X version
[02:13] <soundray> m1r_0: have you tried 'apt-cache search rss reader'?
[02:13] <Flannel> shark-1: not in a "core" at any rate.
[02:13] <m1r_0> no soundray
[02:13] <Rrandy> Can someone point me in the direction of a way to turn off ipv6 in the live cd, without doing any installation of files?
[02:13] <m1r_0> will do
[02:13] <m1r_0> ty
[02:14] <anandanbu> hi
[02:14] <shark-1> tis a shame schools dont use ubuntu
[02:14] <soundray> Rrandy: 'sudo rmmod ipv6'
[02:14] <shark-1> could save lots of money
[02:14] <Pollywog> is there some advantage to using something other than module-assistant to install nvidia drivers on Edgy?
[02:14] <Pollywog> I see that some ppl are using something else
[02:14] <Rrandy> soundray: it tells me it's in use when I do that.
[02:15] <shark-1> Pollywog, are you trying to install the drivers?
[02:15] <anandanbu> i have installed amarok in ubuntu edgy and i'm experiencing problems in playing mp3 files can someone help me
[02:15] <Pollywog> no, I am wondering why ppl use other methods when module-assistant will do it
[02:15] <m1r_0> what rss reader u prefer ?
[02:15] <ant_> Pollywog : by module-assistant you mean something like envy?
[02:15] <Pollywog> yes
[02:15] <Pollywog> why envy?
[02:15] <shark-1> dun even know what module-assistant is and i dunno what rss is either
[02:16] <Pollywog> I did not use envy but many people ask about it
[02:16] <ant_> automation i asume
[02:16] <Pollywog> I did not know what it was until today
[02:16] <Pollywog> oic
[02:16] <soundray> Rrandy: okay, try this:
[02:16] <TSWoodV> !beryl
[02:16] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:16] <Pollywog> I have to keep up with the new installers
[02:17] <ant_> automation is close to lazyness though
[02:17] <mixium> Hi, does anyone know in which of the firefox packages the original bookmarks are stoed?
[02:17] <abasinisvacant> question:  how can i change the icons for my programs?
[02:17] <soundray> Rrandy: 'sudo invoke-rc.d networking stop ; echo alias net-pf-10 off | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list ; sudo rmmod ipv6 ; sudo invoke-rc.d networking start'
[02:17] <Pollywog> abasinisvacant: yes left click the icon if it is on the desktop, click properties
[02:18] <abasinisvacant> pollywog, then?
[02:18] <Pollywog> if you use KDE you can use menuedit to change them in the menus
[02:18] <z3r0x> hi guys
[02:18] <abasinisvacant> pollywog, how?
[02:18] <soundray> Rrandy: not tested, I hope I haven't made a mistake
[02:18] <z3r0x> is it possible to migrate a amd64 version of ubuntu to a 32bit version without new install?
[02:18] <Amaranth> abasinisvacant: In gnome right click on "Applications" in the panel and choose Edit Menus
[02:19] <Pollywog> abasinisvacant: when you right click, choose properties and you will see a picture of the currently used icon.  Click it and you can then change the icon
[02:19] <soundray> z3r0x: no, all the binaries are different
[02:19] <Rrandy> soundray: awesome, thanks, I'll give that a try.  It's at least a start.  the "invoke-rc.d" is something I didn't know.
[02:19] <soundray> Rrandy: you can use "/etc/init.d/networking stop", same effect
[02:19] <z3r0x> soundray: ok... thx
[02:19] <abasinisvacant> thanks pollywog, i'm good now
[02:20] <Pollywog> am I imagining it or is gnome suddently gaining popularity?
[02:20] <Rrandy> I did do that. ..
[02:20] <soundray> z3r0x: consider setting up a 32bit chroot environment.
[02:20] <Rrandy> well, it's worth trying again, maybe I missed a step.
[02:20] <Rrandy> soundray: thanks again.
[02:20] <z3r0x> soundray: I already have one...
[02:20] <ant_> gnome is friendly
[02:20] <Pollywog> it is now but wasn't always friendly
[02:21] <Pollywog> I was surprised when I tried it, that it has improved so much
[02:21] <soundray> z3r0x: not happy? I was considering setting one up, so please tell me.
[02:22] <z3r0x> soundray: not really.. need to keep "two" systems up2date... it's working well but it's not what I want :)
[02:23] <soundray> z3r0x: I see. Did you use a guide to setup the chroot? Did you have to tweak it a lot?
[02:23] <nick_> my dvd's will play in gxine but not totem can anyone help me
[02:23] <shark-1> nick_ use gxine?
[02:24] <tecta> nick_, get libdvdcss2
[02:24] <nick_> i want to use totem
[02:24] <Pollywog> is there a guide to setting up chroots?
[02:24] <nick_> i have that  plugin thats why it works in gxine
[02:24] <z3r0x> soundray: I used this one -> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/32-Bit_chroot ...didn't have to tweak a lot
[02:24] <tecta> nick_, do u have totem-gstreamer or totem-xine
[02:24] <nick_> tecta there is a difference
[02:24] <Pollywog> it's probably in German right?
[02:24] <tecta> nick_, big diff..
[02:25] <tecta> nick_, i recommend totem-xine
[02:25] <l90bpm> what channel is the ubuntu (beryl) whatever you call it..  my mind just went blank?
[02:25] <nick_> i just have the one labled movie player
[02:25] <soundray> z3r0x: great, I'll get to exercise my German as well ;)
[02:25] <arnina> hello ,guys
[02:25] <kalorin> beh, totem
[02:25] <bruenig> l90bpm, #ubuntu-effects
[02:25] <kalorin> ditch that and get vlc
[02:25] <nick_> from teh default install
[02:25] <l90bpm> ty
[02:25] <kalorin> much better
[02:25] <soundray> !chroot | Pollywog
[02:25] <ubotu> Pollywog: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:25] <z3r0x> soundray: :) have fun..
[02:25] <tecta> kalorin, vlc is ok but it doesnt have all the small things i like
[02:25] <Pollywog> soundray: ty
[02:25] <kalorin> it works
[02:25] <iAmTheDave> i'm on a no-cdrom-having no-usb-booting laptop, stuck at 6% install - i selected the "ubuntu" package and it seems to be crapping out
[02:25] <kalorin> totem doesn't for me on a lot of stuff
[02:26] <tecta> kalorin, so does totem
[02:26] <iAmTheDave> any thoughts?
[02:26] <kalorin> I'll take functionality over failure any day
[02:26] <iAmTheDave> or if i just go straight to shell is there an apt package that will install the ubuntu system (UI and all)?
[02:27] <soundray> See you later guys -- gute Nacht z3r0x
[02:28] <ant_> soundray the rc.d hero
[02:28] <soundray> :D
[02:29] <Flannel> iAmTheDave: you mean a full linux CLI environment?
[02:29] <Pollywog> can one use a chroot environment to test Feisty on an Edgy system?
[02:30] <iAmTheDave> Flannel: well apparently the base install system is installed - don't know if it'll boot though...
[02:30] <iAmTheDave> may be able to get it to install grub
[02:30] <iAmTheDave> and then yeah - CLI
[02:30] <mage___> Pollywog: only issues with chroot jails are local services, gdm and uh, maybe edgy has a genetically inferior kernel
[02:30] <Flannel> iAmTheDave: Yes, assuming you can get a CLI install complete, you can install a full ubuntu system.
[02:30] <Pollywog> oic
[02:30] <Flannel> iAmTheDave: ah, during an install, no.  I dont think cutting out of an install incrementally like that will work too well.
[02:30] <iAmTheDave> Flannel: is there documentation for doing that?  or perhaps a single apt call?
[02:30] <iAmTheDave> Flannel: well, i'd kill install and then run from the CLI
[02:31] <Toma-> Im thinkin about getting a new GFX card and wondering it ATI cards are worth looking at? Are the drivers still horrid rubbish?
[02:31] <bruenig> iAmTheDave, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:31] <iAmTheDave> the "select and install software" asked me if i wanted ubuntu, kubuntu, LAMP, etc. - said the "base" system was installed (so i assume that's kernel and a runnable CLI system
[02:31] <Tsuroerusu> Anyone in here using Linux on a ThinkPad X31?
[02:31] <iAmTheDave> ubuntu-desktop - ok i'll give that a go
[02:31] <bacho> I PREFER GNOME!! is more stable!
[02:32] <roachclit> hey guys I just downloaded and extracted a file and I went to the directory, and I want to run the program, the program is Sunbird, do I just type Sunbird???
[02:32] <mage___> Pollywog: there is some problems with trying to use a debootstrap install of ubuntu normally, as it doesn't ask you questions on timezones, network config etc
[02:32] <Flannel> iAmTheDave: well, ubuntu-desktop is the package.  But you'll also need some other stuff that u-d doesn't specifically include.  ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal would be other metapackages to be sure you had.  Um,
[02:32] <zahlerstreik> sup all
[02:32] <zahlerstreik> quick question
[02:33] <mage___> roachclit: ./Sunbird maybe
[02:33] <bruenig> roachclit, assuming it is all precompiled, you can ./sunbird or whatever the binary is claled
[02:33] <bruenig> called
[02:33] <roachclit> okay let me try that
[02:33] <zahlerstreik> are there any slick themes like those gentoo guys have with all those cool effects and awesome design, for ubuntu?
[02:33] <iAmTheDave> Flannel: so i should do a search for the ubuntu- meta-packages
[02:33] <Pelo> zahlerstreik,  are you talking about beryl ?
[02:33] <iAmTheDave> and install most of those (with some degree of paying attention)
[02:33] <zahlerstreik> Pelo: What's beryl? ^_^
[02:33] <Flannel> iAmTheDave: well, there'll be more than just those few.  But those three are ones you want, and they're independant.  (there's others like ubuntu-sound, that'll be included with ubuntu-desktop)
[02:33] <voidmage> !beryl
[02:34] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:34] <zahlerstreik> ah
[02:34] <voidmage> translated: awesome
[02:34] <Pelo> zahlerstreik,  the package the lest you make themes with transparents boders,  and animations and stuff like that