[04:01] <Dougla1> Would someone gimme a hand?
[04:01] <Dougla1> please!!
[04:01] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  i am RTFMing right now. :)
[04:01] <nickrud> chad: can't remember exactly which combo it was, super shift tab, super alt tab , super tab, one of those rotated all windows from all desktops
[04:01] <neopsyche> lol ok ;-)
[04:01] <bazhang> dookdook: open a terminal and type alsamixer
[04:01] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: ok ;-) lol
[04:01] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,   looks like it has a few odd depenecies..  thats about it.. i dont even have a tv tuner card installed any more on my mythtv box
[04:01] <dookdook> bazhang, and?
[04:01] <seacat> dookdook, Check for sound card modules;  lsmod |grep snd
[04:01] <lxuser> #join
[04:01] <lnknpk04> I think my grub got screwed up.  I restarted my pc and now instead of booting it just sits at a black screen with a cursor.  How do I restore grub so everything boots?
[04:02] <chad> nickrud: hmm that goes into shift switcher .. which seemingly does the same thing, albeit in sort of a wild fashion
[04:02] <lnknpk04> ctrl-alt-f2 doesn't do anything
[04:02] <bazhang> heh
[04:02] <chad> nickrud: but at least this will save me the mouse .. tnx
[04:02] <dookdook> seacat, what am i looking for?
[04:02] <seacat> lnknpk04, Boot livecd
[04:02] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: the main problem it says my dependency on specific kde thingy is wrong.
[04:02] <Dougla1> Lxuser
[04:02] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: downloaded the .deb
[04:02]  * nickrud forgot just how ugly ati aiglx was
[04:03] <lnknpk04> seacat, i figured that would work, but once i'm in there i wasn't sure how to restore grub to its good working self
[04:03] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: upon installation it says it needs kdelibs4c2
[04:03] <lnknpk04> seacat, at least i'm assuming grub is the issue in the problem
[04:03] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: but i only have  kdelibs4c2a and kdelibs4c2 is no longer in repos.. etc.
[04:03] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  that deb is for an OLD OLD release of ubuntu
[04:03] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: what to do?
[04:03] <seacat> dookdook, lspci |grep audio
[04:03] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  use the source. recompile
[04:03] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: can you help me make new deb?
[04:03] <chad> nickrud: ahh, ctrl-alt + tab
[04:03] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: can you help me recompile?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> i just got the source and am compiling it now. :)
[04:04] <seacat> lnknpk04, May be a hardware issue
[04:04] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: cool!
[04:04] <friedtofu>  is there much of a difference in 1.67 Ghz core 2 duo vs 2.0 Ghz core 2 duo?
[04:04] <seacat> lnknpk04, Try a boot disk.
[04:04] <dookdook> seacat, lspci | grep audio returns nothing
[04:04] <lnknpk04> seacat, it happened right after an update wanted me to restart so i was thinking it was software, will try live cd real quick
[04:04] <mjw-> friedtofu about 330MHz.... :)
[04:04] <bazhang> friedtofu: not that much to make a difference
[04:04] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  for a start i had to do a  sudo apt-get install kde-devel  qt3-dev-tools  qt3-apps-dev
[04:04] <seacat> dookdook, lspci
[04:04] <dookdook> [~]$ lspci | grep -i audio
[04:04] <dookdook> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[04:05] <oreomike> seacat|ubotu: sorry, stepped away.  root was logged in
[04:05] <pppoe_dude> anyone know why my wacom tablet stops working properly if i unplug/replug until i restart X?
[04:05] <bluefoxx> so im wondering, is there any reason linux would work perfectly with one LAN card, and yet refuse to use another of the exact same model, or my onboard LAN? cause thats my situatiuon right now, i have about 7 extra LAN cards, all 3com but one, and the one on my pc is a 3com 3c905tx, works fine on my comp but i have a second that i know works, and yet ubuntu refused to utilize it, even though its the same model, i tried all of them
[04:05] <bluefoxx> on a second comp and they all work, but they dont work on this comp in ubuntu[pupyp used them all fine]. why might this be?
[04:05] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: sounds way advanced.. im a windows refugee.. so it has been challenging.. with this whole compile thing i dont know where to start... but thanks for helping .. legendary.. perhaps we should post the .deb to the site for future users
[04:05] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: (when its done)
[04:05] <kercyr> If I can see the Ubuntu logo, there shouldn't be any reason I can't do a gui install, is there?
[04:06] <nickrud> bluefox83: have you tried modprobing the right driver?
[04:06] <seacat> oreomike, root was logged in?  Really?
[04:06] <friedtofu> mjw bazhang - do you think its worth it to go from 1.67 to 2.0 Ghz?
[04:06] <bazhang> friedtofu: what price point?
[04:06] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  you may want to go read some of the mythty/mythbuntu docs/guides then - they are decently well done.   I dont even have a tv tuner card installed any more to test this thing once it does compile
[04:06] <robdig> pppoe_dude: i don't know why, but my guess would be that X notices it's gone, but hal doesn't notice when it goes or comes back
[04:06] <mjw-> friedtofu depends how much it would cost
[04:06] <neopsyche> friedtofu: what you need it for / budget?
[04:06] <seacat> oreomike, What is your question?
[04:07] <bluefoxx> nickrud, even on the ubuntu live CD the other ones wont work, not even my onboard[sux, i need the extra PCI slot til li get a PCI-E card]
[04:07] <oreomike> seacat: yes.  Booted laptop, never logged in as me, before gnome could prompt me for login it said run in low-graphics mode, I said cancel, it gave me 'root@localhost #' shell
[04:07] <pppoe_dude> robdig, any ideas on how to fix it?
[04:07] <pppoe_dude> without restarting X
[04:07] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  you would proberly have better luck in posting to the kalva forums asking for a more recent deb.
[04:07] <robdig> pppoe_dude: sorry, no
[04:07] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: its ok.. if you send me the .deb i can test it ;-) myth tv is not what i am looking for for the very reasons explained on the http://hafizpariabi.blogspot.com/2007/12/install-kalva-in-kubuntu-gutsy.html among others
[04:07] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: but thanks
[04:07] <Dougla1> Some one answer me, please I beg for some help!
[04:07] <oreomike> I set the laptop to auto-login as me, but I've always used sudo for root
[04:07] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  im not making a .deb - im just gettting the wouce to compile right now.
[04:07] <neopsyche> Dougla1: what help?
[04:08] <Peddy> please give me a hand...
[04:08] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: wouce?
[04:08] <pppoe_dude> robdig, thanks
[04:08] <friedtofu> mjw bazhang - 1.67 to 2.0 is +$100, from 1.67 to 1.83 is +$50
[04:08] <Dougla1> I'd like to install my ati video card in ubuntu
[04:08] <neopsyche> Peddy: what?
[04:08] <Peddy> please give me a hand...
[04:08] <Peddy> When I try to open a folder in Nautilus with music  in it (i.e. a ripped album), nautilus becomes unresponsive and I have to force quit it. Has anyone heard of this before and knows whats going on?
[04:08] <Dougla1> I don't know how to configure
[04:08] <Peddy> :P
[04:08] <mjw-> friedtofu this is for a laptop?
[04:08] <friedtofu> neopsyche - mainly office programs i suppose, and perhaps occasional games (but not heavily 3d hardcore intensive)
[04:09] <bazhang> friedtofu: seems worth it if you have the $$$ ;]
[04:09] <friedtofu> mjw - yeah it is a laptop
[04:09] <Dougla1> I want to play 3d games
[04:09] <neopsyche> friedtofu: your existing processor should be fine for that
[04:09] <zelrikriando> Dougla1: play with compiz cube :)
[04:09] <neopsyche> friedtofu: but depends on a lot of theings
[04:09] <oreomike> seacat: any idea why I'd get a root prompt without logging in?  isn't that the worst thing an app could do?
[04:09] <neopsyche> friedtofu: like ... what do you have, laptop/
[04:09] <neopsyche> ?
[04:09] <kadam> oh my gosh... Ubuntu should render at least as fast as Windows, right?  I seem to be having massive lag...  And no, I don't have Compiz installed 8)  Anyone know what might be my issue?  Something dumb, even?
[04:09] <neopsyche> friedtofu: if desktop and the processor is free then yes ;-)
[04:10] <neopsyche> Dr_Willis: so you cant send me .deb?
[04:10] <Dougla1> zelrikriando I have to configure my video card but I don't know how... :(
[04:10] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  i dont even know how to make a .deb :)
[04:10] <friedtofu> neopsyche: it'll be for a laptop
[04:10] <zelrikriando> Dougla1: which one?
[04:11] <Dougla1> ati readeon xpress 1100
[04:11] <neopsyche> oh
[04:11] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  the source did compile. and kalva did run. so  i would say download the source.. get all the developer files you need.. and compile it.   -
[04:11] <friedtofu> neopsyche - what do you mean "if desktop and the processor is free then yes ;-)"
[04:11] <zelrikriando> Dougla1: good luck :)
[04:11] <Dougla1> its an onboard model
[04:11] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: oh, well if you manage to compile it.. please let me know how
[04:11] <oriez> I can't open the volume control.. whenever i try i'm getting a error: No Volume Control Gstreamer plugins and/or device found
[04:11] <Dougla1> lol...
[04:11] <neopsyche> friedtofu: you said you wanted to upgrade.. if soemone is giving you the processor or you getting it for next to nothing then yes.. otherwise i dont think it would be worth it.
[04:11] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  i allready did..:) i downloaded the source. installed all the depenedneciues.. and did the normal ./configure, make, make isntall song and dance. :)
[04:11] <Dougla1> do you know where I would find some help?
[04:12] <erawfish> !ti | Dougla1
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ti - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: could you talk me through it?
[04:12] <erawfish> !ati | Dougla1
[04:12] <ubotu> Dougla1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:12] <friedtofu> neopsyche - yeah. its $50 to go to 1.83 and $100 to 2.0 ghz
[04:12] <Dougla1> Hi
[04:12] <Dougla1> ewaw
[04:12] <nickrud> Dougla1:  system->admin->restricted driver , enable ati. Reboot.  run fglrxinfo , make sure it says ati driver not mesa.  install xserver-xgl compizconfig-settings-manager , log out and back in
[04:12] <oriez> I can't open the volume control.. whenever i try i'm getting a error: No Volume Control Gstreamer plugins and/or device found.
[04:12] <neopsyche> friedtofu: well.. if it were 100 dollars for 4ghz then i would say yes ;-D
[04:13] <Dougla1> Thanks a lot nickrud, I'll try this
[04:13] <neopsyche> friedtofu: but if only a small dif then no ;-)
[04:13] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  proberly not in any great detail. i got 10000+ dev packages installed.. so you will proberly need to start grabbing the various dev packages .. and download the source for a start compiling it and see what else it wants
[04:13] <friedtofu> haha. so 1.67 ghz core 2 duo is already lightning fast?
[04:13] <bazhang> friedtofu: pretty darn fast
[04:13] <Dr_willis> !flash
[04:13] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:14] <nickrud> my gosh Dr_willis you are a glutton!
[04:14] <friedtofu> bazhang - haha thanks
[04:14] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  shot gun method of grabbing dev packages. ;)
[04:14] <JohnMM> !package lvm
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package lvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <JohnMM> how do you search for packages with the bot?
[04:14] <Dr_willis> !find lvm
[04:14] <soldats> !info lvm
[04:14] <ubotu> Package lvm does not exist in gutsy
[04:14] <ubotu> Found: clvm, lvm2, autopkgtest-xenlvm, llvm, llvm-cfe (and 3 others)
[04:15] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: thanks.
[04:15] <bazhang> JohnMM: you dont either packages.ubuntu.com or apt-cache search keyword in the terminal
[04:15] <JohnMM> thanks
[04:15] <JohnMM> !info lvm2
[04:15] <ubotu> lvm2 (source: lvm2): The Linux Logical Volume Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.02.26-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 312 kB, installed size 880 kB
[04:15] <neopsyche> Dougla1: google your card maby?
[04:16] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: how do i download source? is that the tar.bz2 package?
[04:16] <soldats> neopsyche: in apt-get there is a command to download the source of a package
[04:16] <noobjoe> <</msg ubotu etiquette >>
[04:16] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  This may be a VERY long night for you. :)
[04:17] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  yes.. thats the source
[04:17] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: ok.
[04:17] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: lol
[04:17] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: need help.. kalva is perfect for my needs .. but for some reason;; IT REFUSES TO WORK ON MY SYSTEM!!!
[04:17] <neopsyche> lol
[04:17] <chubs730> what's a kalva?
[04:17] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: so what do i do with the source now.
[04:17] <neopsyche> http://hafizpariabi.blogspot.com/2007/12/install-kalva-in-kubuntu-gutsy.html
[04:18] <bazhang> !caps | neopsyche
[04:18] <ubotu> neopsyche: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:18] <neopsyche> chubs730:http://hafizpariabi.blogspot.com/2007/12/install-kalva-in-kubuntu-gutsy.html
[04:18] <neopsyche> ubotu: SHOUTS AT UBOTU :-D
[04:18] <neopsyche> ;-0
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> neopsyche: Please take it down a notch
[04:19] <neopsyche> adjust the volume
[04:19] <oriez> I can't open the volume control.. whenever i try i'm getting a error: No Volume Control Gstreamer plugins and/or device found.
[04:19] <neopsyche> *adjusts
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Easy enough...
[04:19] <regulate>  back
[04:19] <bazhang> hehe
[04:19] <neopsyche> oriez: its a good think i can open volume control.. that way i can take it down a notch ;-)
[04:19] <neopsyche> Dr_Willis: wheres the first place to start to compile from source?
[04:20] <broken__> Can someone take a look at this, http://pastebin.ca/897023 what does that look like?
[04:20] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  make a directory.. put the source in there. uncompress it..  read its readme/install docs.. and of course You should be installing the various -dev packages...  (ive think ive said about 10 min ago what i was installing) :) you may have to install quite a few things to get the thing tocompile.
[04:21] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  for a start install the 'build-essential' package
[04:21] <bazhang> broken__: I cant access that site--perhaps you could paste it elsewhere or describe the problem here
[04:21] <nickrud> broken__: a wine app that couldn't run because your direct rendering is broken
[04:21] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  for a start i had to do a  sudo apt-get install kde-devel  qt3-dev-tools  qt3-apps-dev
[04:21] <broken__> I see, I'm guessing thats fglrx's fault.
[04:22] <nickrud> broken__: if you have xserver-xgl running that would cause it
[04:22] <lnknpk04> neopsyche, when you unpack the source alot of times there's a file in there called 'readme' or something along those lines.  alot of times it tells you step by step how to compile
[04:23] <seacat> neopsyche, First, download the tarball;   apt-get source <package.name.here>
[04:23] <Dr_willis> seacat, its not in the repos at all. :)
[04:23] <Dr_willis> i did a   wget http://download.berlios.de/kalva/kalva-0.8.90.tar.bz2
[04:23] <dragon> is there a way i can update ubuntu from dapper drake to gutsy through the repos?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: What video card are you working with
[04:24] <seacat> Dr_willis, neopsyche Download it from where ever;  tar -zxvf tarball.tgz  ; configure ; make ; sudo make install
[04:24] <nickrud> Dr_willis: I've been thinking, with that many dev packages installed you oughta spend a couple hours learning to make a deb with cdbs ;)
[04:24] <bazhang> dragon: yes but it is a long process--you could wait until april and go directly from dapper to hardy
[04:24] <seacat> Dr_willis, neopsyche Download it from where ever;  tar -zxvf tarball.tgz ; cd tarball/ ; less README ; less INSTALL ; configure ; make ; sudo make install
[04:25] <quaal> why can i not use my shift/ctrl keys to select files through a vnc session. shift works when typing into the vnc session though?
[04:25] <dragon> well reason i ask is so that i can get the latest ver of wine to play WoW and other games
[04:25] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  i would just be happy if i coulf figure out a nice simple way to get all the dev files needed for a given source package easially. :)
[04:25] <neopsyche> seacat: easier?
[04:25] <Ashfire> dragon, you have to go through all the versions, one by one
[04:25] <seacat> neopsyche, than what?
[04:25] <neopsyche> seacat: can you help install kalva?
[04:25] <dragon> ok so how would i do that till i get to the latest ver?
[04:25] <ohp> hey all
[04:25] <bazhang> dragon: if you start upgrading now you should be done by april ;]
[04:26] <ohp> I just installed eeeXubuntu
[04:26] <lnknpk04> neopsyche, seacat just gave you the instructions on how to do it
[04:26] <neopsyche> seacat: kalva is like the "holy grail" app to install at the moment for me
[04:26] <seacat> neopsyche, ./configure      make       make install
[04:26] <nickrud> Dr_willis: if you're recompiling a known package , apt-get build-deb <package> (or a similar package gets lots)
[04:26] <dragon> wow im that behind?
[04:26] <ohp> it's working great
[04:26] <neopsyche> ok
[04:26] <nickrud> Dr_willis: but doh, you already knew that ;(
[04:26] <bazhang> ohp join #eeepc and share the good news ;]
[04:26] <neopsyche> seacat: can you talk me through the make > make install process?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  :) yep..  but if its  a known package.. i just use the debs heh.
[04:27] <seacat> neopsyche, After unpacking the file and CDing to the resulting directory, you will find README  and possibly INSTALL as well.
[04:27] <ohp> cool thx
[04:27] <ablyss> if anyone using hotmail for their email.. you might find it interesting to note that the default ubuntu firefox's HTTP_USER_AGENT is not accepted as a compliant browser for full mode mail reading
[04:27] <seacat> neopsyche, The computer will do it for you, just give the command.
[04:27] <bazhang> dragon: yup
[04:27] <lnknpk04> neopsyche, what he was saying was go into the command line and type in the stuff he said.  everytime you see a ; in his statement you would hit enter
[04:27] <nickrud> ablyss: you should sue
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> ablyss: It is easy enough to spoof it into working
[04:28] <dragon> ok so can i update from one to another in sucsesson or do i have to wait inbetween updates?
[04:28] <ablyss> nickrud, nah, i just download firefox and run it with from directory
[04:28] <nickrud> ablyss: better yet, use gmail
[04:28] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, this is a buddies laptop ...and I Just found out its the ATi Xpress 200
[04:28] <bazhang> user agent switcher aslo works ablyss
[04:28] <seacat> neopsyche, First, unpack the tarball,  next, cd to the resulting directory .....  etc.
[04:28] <neopsyche> how do i 'CD" to the directory?
[04:28] <bazhang> oy
[04:28] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, so I am guessing, since I have the same card and haven't been able to get dri working ... that I won't be able to do anything.
[04:28] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  egads.. this is going to be a VERY VERY long night for you.
[04:28] <ablyss> Jack_Sparrow, its rather annoying really I went months and months using it w/ out knowing what was going on
[04:29] <seacat> neopsyche, cd directoryname/
[04:29] <randoms> hi. how do i configure my kernel i ubuntu? i cant find it in /usr/src like others linux distrubutions?
[04:29] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: lol windows refugee remember. ;-)
[04:29] <randoms> im btw in comsole, no x11 installed
[04:29] <ablyss> bazhang, the user agent switcher that I got has to be switched everytime you start firefox.. rather annoying too
[04:29] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  you may want to spend an hr reading a few bash tutorials befor trying this compilation song and dance.
[04:29] <bluefoxx> so can someone tell me what a "optical data systems ODS466 10 bast-t tranceiver" is for?it has a LAN port on it and a gameport type thing on the other end[google yeilded nothin]
[04:29] <nickrud> randoms: install linux-source-2.6.22
[04:29] <ablyss> nickrud, plus I have two gmail accounts
[04:29] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: oh.. i have it onw
[04:29] <neopsyche> *now
[04:29] <bazhang> ablyss: you can change the default for certain sites
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ablyss: You need to spoof for some sites for news like msnbc
[04:29] <seacat> neopsyche, If you give me the exact file name, I can give you specific commands
[04:30] <nickrud> ablyss: you can't just forward the hotmail?
[04:30] <randoms> nickrud: ok, thnx
[04:30] <oreomike> bluefoxx, sounds like an old 10base2 token ring adapter
[04:30] <neopsyche> seacat: now i am in the dir .. what do i type?
[04:30] <Dr_willis> what is that command that tries to compile/make a deb from source..
[04:30] <bluefoxx> oreomike, what would it be for?
[04:30] <bazhang> bluefoxx: ask in #hardware
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: See you Monday.. take care
[04:30] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, would you happen to know if anyones gotten the Xpress 200M chip with dir?
[04:30] <bluefoxx> bazhang, ok, will do
[04:30] <seacat> neopsyche,  less README
[04:30] <broken__> dri*
[04:31] <oreomike> networking before 100base-t ethernet existed
[04:31] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: see you tomorrow
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: not off the top of my head
[04:31] <neopsyche> seacat: now it says README (end)
[04:31] <Genius16> oreomike: you lie!
[04:31] <broken__> Dang..
[04:31] <ablyss> nickrud, i guess so.. oh well i'm tired will mess with it another time
[04:31] <nickrud> broken__: me.
[04:31] <broken__> what!
[04:31] <broken__> nickrud, seriously?
[04:31] <seacat> neopsyche,  less INSTALL
[04:31]  * broken__ sees a sliver of h ope
[04:31] <oreomike> Genius16, I tell confident guesses, not lies
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: I know I always say monday...
[04:31] <dragon> so can i update one at a time in rapid updates or do i have to wait inbetween them?
[04:32] <randoms> im trying to change my console resolution, i add vga=794 but it dosent work, i can only choose crappy resolutions, any ideas?
[04:32] <nickrud> broken__: yes, its in my laptop. Instructions follow (unless you used the one from the ati.amd site, then all bets are off)
[04:32] <broken__> nickrud, if you have to go, then I won't hold ya here.
[04:32] <neopsyche> seacat: now it gives.. generic installation instructions
[04:32] <Genius16> oreomike: everybody knows token ring was a book!
[04:32] <neopsyche> seacat: what do i need to read/do now?
[04:32] <nickrud> broken__: nah, Jack was leaving
[04:32] <seacat> neopsyche,  read....
[04:32] <broken__> Ah ok see ya Jack_Sparrow ;)
[04:32] <Peddy> When I try to open a folder in Nautilus with music  in it (i.e. a ripped album), nautilus becomes unresponsive and I have to force quit it. Has anyone heard of this before and knows whats going on?
[04:32] <quaal> why can i not use my shift/ctrl keys to select files through a vnc session. shift works when typing into the vnc session though?
[04:32] <bazhang> dragon: you have the bandwidth then no need to wait ;]
[04:32] <broken__> nickrud, alright I'm ready for instructions.
[04:32] <seacat> neopsyche,  ./configure
[04:32] <soldats>  /.configure
[04:32] <dragon> ok so where do i start this journy of updates?
[04:33] <oreomike> Genius16, Ah yes, the writings of good old JR Token, and the tail of the "ring"
[04:33] <pawan> where is paint brush
[04:33] <bazhang> !upgrade | dragon
[04:33] <ubotu> dragon: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:33] <nickrud> broken__: system->admin->restricted manager, install ati . Reboot.  Log in, run fglrxinfo in a terminal, make sure you're using ati driver 8.37.6 . Done
[04:33] <seacat> pawalls, gimp
[04:33] <oreomike> Genius16, he must have been a pothead
[04:33] <Genius16> oreomike: the tale of 2400 baud.
[04:33] <broken__> nickrud, how can I be sure i'm using 8.37?
[04:33] <oreomike> Genius16: GAH!  How did we ever manage at those speeds
[04:34] <nickrud> broken__: fgrlxinfo will tell you
[04:34] <broken__> ok.
[04:34] <Genius16> oreomike: prodigy for dos.
[04:34] <oreomike> Genius16, imagine an internet with text-only BB's!
[04:34] <joe_> ai
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: It may be necessary to establish a symbolic link for the /usr/lib/dri folder, ..... If you are using an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M on an AMD64 CPU and the fglrx ...   see the link for ati binary drivers
[04:34] <joe_> so
[04:34] <neopsyche> seacat: on typing configure it says command not found
[04:34] <joe_> i need help installing ventrilo
[04:34] <soldats> randoms: you need to edit your xorg.conf and input the correct resolutions with the correct refresh rates otherwise it wont work. otherwise an easire way is in terminal "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" the choose defaults to be safe then choose the resolution you want and restart the Xserver by doing "ctrl+alt+backspace:
[04:34] <pawan> paint brush program for ubuntu
[04:34] <bazhang> heh Jack_Sparrow cannot get away ;]
[04:34] <oreomike> neopsyche: ./configure?
[04:34] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: only if some crazy person is using the ati site driver
[04:34] <seacat> neopsyche,  ./configure
[04:34] <joe_> so i need help installing ventrilo
[04:35] <joe_> HALP
[04:35]  * IcemanV9 checked his ATI version -> 2.0.5814 (8.25.18)
[04:35] <bazhang> pawan the gimp
[04:35] <neopsyche> seacat: ok. now its doing something
[04:35] <neopsyche> seacat: now im back at command prompt
[04:35] <joe_> HALP
[04:35]  * nickrud respects IcemanV9 , he doesn't upgrade willy nilly
[04:35] <seacat> neopsyche,  make
[04:35] <bazhang> joe_: install from where
[04:36] <joe_> i i used this tutorial
[04:36] <joe_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[04:36] <joe_> and cant find
[04:36] <soldats> pawan: there is an mspaint eqivilent like qpaint or something search for "paint" in synaptics
[04:36] <joe_> h/o
[04:36] <FloodBot3> joe_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:36] <IcemanV9> nickrud: that's the latest on dapper (LTS) :)
[04:36] <joe_> libwine
[04:36] <bazhang> joe_: what is h/o
[04:36] <joe_> and libwine-alasa
[04:36] <joe_> hold on
[04:36] <neopsyche> seacat: ake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:36] <joe_> alsa
[04:36] <joe_> sorry
[04:36] <joe_> i cant find those files anywhere
[04:36] <bazhang> pawan tuxpaint ;]
[04:36] <seacat> neopsyche,  ./configure
[04:37] <seacat> neopsyche, Watch for errors
[04:37] <bazhang> !info tuxpaint | pawan
[04:37] <ubotu> pawan: tuxpaint (source: tuxpaint): A paint program for young children. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.17-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 149 kB, installed size 388 kB
[04:37] <pawan> ok
[04:37] <pawan> thanks
[04:37] <neopsyche> seacat: checking whether g++ supports -Wmissing-format-attribute... no  (ETC?)
[04:37] <joe_> so anthing i can do to find those files?
[04:38] <neopsyche> seacat: checking for g++... no
[04:38] <neopsyche> checking for c++... no
[04:38] <neopsyche> checking for gpp... no
[04:38] <neopsyche> seacat: are these problems?
[04:38] <broken__> nickrud, ... it seems I was already using dri.. lol!
[04:38] <joe_> SEAKING FUCKYEH
[04:38] <joe_> so yeh i need help
[04:38] <nickrud> neopsyche: please, use one line.   Install  build-essential to kill those errors
[04:38] <bazhang> neopsyche: did you install build-essential?
[04:39] <IcemanV9> build-essential would solve the problem
[04:39] <soldats> joe_: watch your language please
[04:39] <neopsyche> bazhang: how do i install build essential?
[04:39] <badkitty> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:39] <_Oz_> anyone here running a twinview setup (dual monitors)?
[04:39] <bazhang> joe_: not much help if you curse like that
[04:39] <joe_> sorry
[04:39] <badkitty> _Oz_: I am
[04:39] <joe_> but in all seriousness
[04:39] <joe_> where can i find those files
[04:39] <_Oz_> badkitty: how do you force windows to open in the right-hand display rather than the left?
[04:39] <_Oz_> I have the nvidia x-server file thingie.
[04:39] <neopsyche> bazhang: what command should i type to 'install build essential?'
[04:40] <Starnestommy> neopsyche: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:40] <soldats> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:40] <badkitty> _Oz_: Now that I don't know
[04:40] <neopsyche> nickrud: what do i type to install build essential? sudo apt-get install buld-essential ok ;-
[04:40] <dragon> odd i tried updateing from dapper drake to edgy eft but on the update screen it says my system is up to date
[04:40] <bazhang> neopsyche: same as all else sudo apt-get install packagename
[04:40] <mjw-> _Oz_ I am, on a matrox card
[04:40] <seacat> neopsyche,  sudo apt-get install g++-3.4
[04:40] <nickrud> lol neopsyche I hope you had a lot of sleep, you're gonne be at this a while :)
[04:40] <mjw-> _Oz_ NOT a setup experience I'd recommend for the faint of heart
[04:40] <badkitty> mjw: How many heads does it have? Matrox is c00
[04:40] <joe_> is there an ubuntu irc where there arnt over 9000 people
[04:41] <joe_> so i can get some help
[04:41] <neopsyche> nickrud: ok ;-) Virtual caffeine is like .. getting a program to work ;-)
[04:41] <nickrud> seacat you should recommend build-essential , and ubuntu is using 4.1 right now
[04:41] <Genius16> joe_ were not that busy in "kubuntu" just dont bring your "gnomes"
[04:41] <mjw-> badkitty just two....in 2003, it was pretty much the only dual headed DVI fanless card available (Matrox P650)
[04:41] <joe_> kk
[04:41] <_Oz_> I got my nvidia twinview setup working easily
[04:41] <neopsyche> ROTFL! dont bring gnomes!
[04:41] <_Oz_> it was not hard at all
[04:41] <IcemanV9> joe_: to find a file; whereis <file name> OR which <file name>
[04:41] <neopsyche> ;-D!
[04:41] <badkitty> joe_: Actually this seems to be the bast channel to get help with ubuntu stuff. If there is too few people, then no one will be around to help you
[04:41] <_Oz_> there are just a few behaviors I'd like to change and don't know how exactly
[04:41] <_Oz_> in windows I could say one monitor was primary over the other
[04:42] <_Oz_> in ubuntu, I don't see a way to do that...  I have nvidia x-server which lets me configure some things but not that.
[04:42] <badkitty> mjw-: Now they have cards with 16 heads and stuff eh?
[04:42] <badkitty> _Oz_: For sure there is a way, I just don't know off hand..
[04:42] <mjw-> badkitty so I've heard, i'm not sure why'd you use them otherwise anymore. time has left them behind, and the binary-only linux drivers are just pretty pathetic
[04:42] <Vadi> How can I check what version of nVidia drivers have I got?
[04:43] <neopsyche> nickrud: hehe.. the cdrom drive wants to eat my gibbon :-D
[04:43] <dragon> so do i skip edgy eft? since it wont let me update to it claming i got the latest updates?
[04:43] <seacat> neopsyche,  sudo apt-get install  build-essential  g++-4.1
[04:43] <galagher> dtidititimtu
[04:43] <badkitty> mjw-: I just stay with nvidia myself.. Do I really need 16 monitors?
[04:43] <neopsyche> seacat: i should do that instaead of installing from the gibbon biscuit?
[04:43] <kilgariff> Vadi:  nvidia-settings
[04:43] <soldats> _Oz_: try opening an app with the terminal and force it to display 0:2 or 0:1 i dont remember if that refers to dual monitors. best way is to play around.
[04:44] <mjw-> badkitty if I had to do it again, I'd just get a 24 inch LCD singlehead. but it was more cost effective to do two 17" LCDs dualhead in 2003
[04:44] <IcemanV9> badkitty: unless you'll give a cool presentation using 16 monitors ;)
[04:44] <nickrud> seacat: build essential brings in gcc, g++ , libc6-dev , make other stuff
[04:44] <Vadi> kilgariff: thanks dude
[04:44] <obione> hey guys []
[04:44] <pulsar> part
[04:44] <seacat> nickrud, Thank you.  I stand corrected.
[04:44] <seacat> neopsyche,  sudo apt-get install  build-essential
[04:44] <badkitty> IcemanV9: I once saw a video of some guys playing quake on a 16 monitors using a soap mouse
[04:44] <nickrud> seacat: saves time :)
[04:44] <neopsyche> seacat: what does g++4.1 do?
[04:45] <mjw-> badkitty I would never get another matrox card though for general use. the linux drivers are quite inferior.
[04:45] <seacat> neopsyche, It's the compiler.
[04:45] <neopsyche> seacat: it asked me for my cd
[04:45] <neopsyche> seacat: so i put it in and now its reading
[04:45] <seacat> neopsyche, But just do sudo apt-get build.essential
[04:45] <neopsyche> seacat: its intalling
[04:45] <neopsyche> i think
[04:45] <neopsyche> * installing
[04:45] <badkitty> mjw-: I can only imagine
[04:46] <dragon> how come i cant update my ubuntu ver when i use the command gksu "update-manager -c"
[04:46] <neopsyche> seacat: installing build essential from cd
[04:46] <mjw-> badkitty ie the OpenGL implementation is basically broken, so no compiz-fusion fun
[04:46] <neopsyche> seacat: but not that other thingy you asked me to add
[04:46] <Vadi> kilgariff: one more thing.. nvidia settings say I got 100.14.19. Website says latest 169.07 is latest.. is the gutsy stock driver really old or?
[04:46] <Asdquefty> #kubuntu
[04:47] <seacat> neopsyche, It doesn't matter
[04:47] <Starseed> Damn, don't know what happened, everythings falling apart in ubuntu .. Skype stopped working , xine stopped working , flash crashes .. yikes..
[04:47] <soldats> dragon: try gksudo update-manager -c
[04:47] <kilgariff> Vadi:  I'm not sure, lemme check
[04:47] <soldats> it opens the gui for updating
[04:48] <soldats> dragon: or in terminal try sudo apt-get update
[04:48] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  this MIGHT work --> http://rapidshare.com/files/90314282/kalva_0.8.90-1_i386.deb.html
[04:49] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: thanks
[04:49] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  and if it blows up your pc.. well --- too bad. :P
[04:49] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: but could you possibly download that and email it to me .. as i dont have rapidshare account and free option never works for me
[04:49] <nickrud> rflol
[04:49] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: oh
[04:49] <dragon>  ok now what?
[04:49] <Starseed> guess I'm going to give it a second go , re-install
[04:49] <robogeek> is anybody familiar with hald on hardy?
[04:49] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: i think i already downloaded that
[04:49] <Dr_willis> You dont need an account to get things..
[04:49] <ogre> hey guys, I was just wondering how to stop virtualbox from  grabbing my mouse? it says "Right Ctrl" what the heck is right?
[04:49] <seacat> neopsyche, Is this machine not online?
[04:49] <neopsyche> seacat: its installed now
[04:49] <neopsyche> seacat: this machine is online
[04:50] <neopsyche> seacat: my machine?
[04:50] <Vadi> ogre: it's the ctrl key that's on your right
[04:50] <bazhang> neopsyche: hahaha
[04:50] <IcemanV9> ogre: your right ctrl key
[04:50] <seacat> neopsyche, Good.
[04:50] <Vadi> ogre: there are 2 ctrl keys, one on the left side, one on the right side. Press the right ctrl
[04:50] <ogre> Vadi:  ahahahaha thanks ;P
[04:50] <kilgariff> Vadi:  I've never noticed that before.  I'm downloading the driver from the nvidia site just to check
[04:50] <Dr_willis> If thers some other site better then rapidshare - let me know. :)
[04:50] <neopsyche> bazhang: what you laughing at!??
[04:50] <Vadi> ogre: and install the virtualbox addons
[04:50] <neopsyche>  lol
[04:50] <neopsyche> :-D
[04:50] <Dr_willis> i rarely use them
[04:50] <badkitty> seacat ...Im trying to picture what that would look like .. using a seahorse as a reference of how to translate regular animals to those that live underwater
[04:50] <Vadi> kilgariff: Ok, thanks.
[04:50] <neopsyche> seacat: cool.. what now?
[04:50] <ogre> Vadi:  whats the name of the package?
[04:51] <pawan> hi
[04:51] <neopsyche> seacat: Setting up build-essential (11.3ubuntu1) ...
[04:51] <Vadi> ogre: it's not a package. In the virtualbox vm window, click on 'devices', and 'install virtualbox addons'
[04:51] <Vadi> ogre: if your wm is windows, it'll start an installer, if linux, open up a folder, and you need to run the .run file
[04:52] <nickrud> neopsyche: an intermediate step:   system->admin->software sources , make sure the first four items on the first tab are enabled, and the cdrom is disabled. On the Updates tab, make sure security and updates are enabled
[04:52] <dragon> ok i did the try sudo apt-get update
[04:52] <dragon> whats next to do?
[04:52] <ogre> Vadi:  thanks
[04:52] <nickrud> neopsyche: that will allow you to not use the cd, and make sure you have the latest safest versions of ubuntu software
[04:52] <IcemanV9> dragon: sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[04:53] <neopsyche> nickrud: done.
[04:53] <neopsyche> nickrud: whats next?
[04:53] <nickrud> neopsyche: continue with seacat
[04:53] <dragon> E: Invalid operation safe-upgrade
[04:53] <lnknpk04> in case anyone else finds they cant boot after this last round of updates, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=658329
[04:53] <dragon> thats what it told me
[04:53] <acecase> I have a fresh install and my mouse is lagging like crazy. CPU/RAM usage is minimal and the system is very responsive but the mouse lag is bad. I can't seem to find anything useful in the forums or with google this time.
[04:53] <neopsyche> seacat: whats next?
[04:53] <IcemanV9> dragon: what version of ubuntu?
[04:53] <gandhii> curious as to how and who updates the files in the repositories?   Is there a policy in how often they are updated?
[04:54] <dragon> dapper drake i did the sudo apt get update thing and it seemed to work but didnt change anything
[04:54] <seacat> neopsyche, ./configure   ;   make   ;    make install
[04:54] <IcemanV9> dragon: ah. then use sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:54] <Vadi> gandhii: normal packages are updated with the new ubuntu release. Security patches as soon as needed are applied though
[04:54] <seacat> neopsyche, The system is fully updated, right?
[04:54] <kilgariff> acecase:  Could it just be miconfigured in preferences->mouse?
[04:54] <Vadi> gandhii: If you'd like the latest programs, I'd recommend getdeb.net.
[04:54] <nickrud> gandhii: for main, there's a security team that applies known security fixes. For universe and mulitiverse, it's catch as catch can. They're working on building a good team for that, though
[04:54] <acecase> Helvasca in the mouse settings? I have played with all those settings.
[04:55] <seacat> neopsyche, If not,   sudo apt-get update
[04:55] <dragon> its telling me bash: try: command not found
[04:55] <neopsyche> seacat: now its giving a bunch of other stuff
[04:55] <gandhii> ah...   so you mean apps like wine or blender won't be updated till the next April?
[04:55] <dragon> opps lol
[04:55] <kilgariff> Vadi: brb, installing new driver
[04:55] <acecase> kilgariff If I slide the speed up in mouse settings it just makes it unusable because it still lags so it looks like it teleports from one side to another :)
[04:55] <IcemanV9> dragon: misspelling?
[04:55] <Vadi> kilgariff: k
[04:55] <neopsyche> seacat: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:56] <kilgariff> acecase: awesome :)
[04:56] <acecase> lol
[04:56] <nickrud> gandhii: precisely. The philosophy is don't add new bugs to a release,
[04:56] <neopsyche> seacat: checking for shl_unload in -ldld... no
[04:56] <seacat> neopsyche, sudo apt-get update
[04:56] <neopsyche> seacat: do i need to
[04:56] <neopsyche> ok
[04:57] <pajamian> gandhii: if you want to keep wine updated to the latest release then just add the winehq repository.
[04:57] <marx2k_> why WHY WHY does linux not have a decent newsgroup binaries downloader :(
[04:57] <gandhii> but I noticed that the update to OpenOffice was reflected in the repositories fairly quickly though..
[04:57] <dragon> odd it does the sudo apt-get update just fine but then when i  do  sudo apt-get safe-upgrade it says
[04:57] <nickrud> gandhii: however, gutsy-updates will sometimes get new versions, as does backports and proposed. I personally don't use proposed and backports because they often add new bugs.
[04:57] <dragon> E: Invalid operation safe-upgrade
[04:57] <nickrud> dragon: someone was confusing a command for another front end to apt
[04:57] <gandhii> "gutsy-updates"?
[04:58] <IcemanV9> dragon: not on dapper
[04:58] <dragon> *confused*
[04:58] <nickrud> gandhii: system->admin->software sources , updates tab
[04:58] <neopsyche> seacat: W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.las.ic.unicamp.br unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[04:58] <Genius16> marx2k_ ive wondered myself, you'd think one would be plastered up everywhere? i havent looked very hard though. =
[04:59] <nickrud> dragon: safe-upgrade is used with aptitude, a front end that's not recommended for use with ubuntu
[04:59] <neopsyche> seacat: does that matter?
[04:59] <gandhii> oh right..  I get ya
[04:59] <Gemmers> Hello
[04:59] <IcemanV9> dragon: if you want to update your dapper, then type sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:59] <gandhii> thanks
[04:59] <factotum> aptitude is a front end for apt-get?
[04:59] <Gemmers> I'm considering putting ubuntu on my laptop but I have concerns about power management and battery life
[04:59] <gandhii> filled up one of the many many holes in my linux knowledge
[05:00] <nickrud> factotum: no, apt-get and aptitude are front ends for apt, as is synaptic
[05:00] <factotum> lol okay
[05:00] <neopsyche> seacat: on configure some of he settings still say "no" and it still cant find the x library
[05:00] <cleit0n> hey.. hi i install skype in ubuntu 7.10 ?
[05:00] <neopsyche> seacat: what should we do now?
[05:00] <mjw-> !laptop | Gemmers
[05:00] <ubotu> Gemmers: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:00] <nowimproved> i get this error when i try to burn a cd Cd record has no permission to open device"
[05:00] <badkitty> cleit0n: sudo apt-get install skype (after you enable the medibuntu repo)
[05:00] <Gemmers> I've had a look around some Docs and my laptop shows partial support
[05:00] <seacat> neopsyche,  lsb_release -a
[05:00] <Gemmers> I've currently got 512MB ram and a 1.5GHz processor so that should be fine right?
[05:01]  * IcemanV9 personally uses aptitude for everything
[05:01] <seacat> neopsyche, What does it say?
[05:01] <Gemmers> The main concern is with regards to power saving and management
[05:01] <mjw-> Gemmers I installed xubuntu on an old dell latitude c510, pretty much all the power management stuff worked fine, except screen savers don't work on it (but blanking does)
[05:01] <dragon> is that it?
[05:01] <Vadi> Gemmers: yeah. That's what I got too.
[05:01] <nickrud> nowimproved: you should be in the cdrom group, try typing   groups  in a terminal , see if it's listed
[05:01] <Vadi> Gemmers: Same specs I mean
[05:01] <badkitty> Gemmers: Thats fine for linux yah.. what are you trying to do?
[05:01] <Gemmers> That's cool
[05:01] <neopsyche> seacat: Release:        7.10
[05:01] <neopsyche> Codename:       gutsy
[05:01] <Gemmers> University
[05:01] <mjw-> Gemmers I run xubuntu on a 1GHz celeron with 256MB, works great. regular ubuntu should be fine on that
[05:01] <cleit0n> badkitty: medibuntu?
[05:01] <IcemanV9> dragon: yea
[05:01] <Gemmers> Cheap easy as computing, no vista no windows
[05:02] <dragon> how can i tell if it worked?
[05:02] <Gemmers> I love the idea of how it's apparently much more easier to use ubuntu, so much so I'm trying to get my mum to use my laptop
[05:02] <Gemmers> And viruses shall not be an issue
[05:02] <z-dog> guys when i compile my dmfe driver i get two errors
[05:02] <neopsyche> seacat: any idea?
[05:02] <nickrud> IcemanV9: so did I, but one of the actual canonical support guys told me the upgrade 'uber-geeks' are actively pushing apt-get over aptitude, some changes coming down the pike that won't make it to aptitude real fast
[05:02] <Peddy> has anyone had any luck with the Pidgin-Rhythmbox plugin?
[05:02] <IcemanV9> dragon: you'll see in the terminal when you issued the command
[05:03] <thug_life> how do i get the user list
[05:03] <factotum> yep ubuntu with a stripped out xp vmimage for some cs3 apps has been great
[05:03] <robogeek> is anybody familiar with hald or autofs in hardy?
[05:03] <badkitty> !medibuntu | cleit0n
[05:03] <ubotu> cleit0n: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:03] <IcemanV9> nickrud: it's good to know ... hm
[05:03] <Gemmers> But do you use ubuntu on a laptop, I was worried that you need special software to save battery life
[05:03] <the_alamo> i am having trouble getting to irc.gnome.org or irc.gimp.org. is anyone else having this problem?
[05:03] <neopsyche> seacat: wht do you need to know the release for?
[05:03] <neopsyche> seacat: is there an issue with that release?
[05:04] <mjw-> Gemmers no most any laptops from recent years will work fine out of the box, check the links ubotu gave you, someone may have tested your laptop specifically at some point
[05:04] <nowimproved> nickrud, it is
[05:04] <IcemanV9> nickrud: will it backport to older version (as far as dapper) ??
[05:04] <neopsyche> seacat: what do i need to do ?
[05:04] <Gemmers> It has been tested but are there any tips to optimise battery life
[05:04] <Gemmers> Are there settings in ubuntu I can use?
[05:04] <nickrud> IcemanV9: unlikely, it's stuff for hardy
[05:04] <neopsyche> seacat: is there an issue installing certain programs.. should i install them manually?
[05:04] <Gemmers> A hibernate setting perhaps?
[05:04] <mjw-> Gemmers turn screen brightness down, turn timers for screen blanking down, etc.
[05:05] <IcemanV9> nickrud: ok. i'll test it out in hardy then. thks.
[05:05] <Gemmers> screen blanking?
[05:05] <Vadi> Gemmers: install powertop - it's on getdeb.net
[05:05] <pawan> any good paint program
[05:05] <neopsyche> seacat: hello?
[05:05] <Gemmers> Note I have not used ubuntu before but I am very keen to install it
[05:05] <Vadi> Gemmers: then type 'sudo powertop' in the terminal. It'll do a bunch of power-saving suggestions.
[05:05] <neopsyche> pawan: paint program for what?
[05:06] <thug_life> you can't /ctcp with xchat ?
[05:06] <chubs730__> pawan: xpaint
[05:06] <Dr_willis> ive noticed some of the powertop 'suggestions' dont apply to all setups.
[05:06] <pajamian> thug_life: I can ctcp just fine
[05:06] <thug_life> With x-chat gnome?
[05:06] <mjw-> thug_life I know ctcp doesn't work with pidgin, but I thought it worked with xchat
[05:06] <dragon> i dont see where it supose to of updated it
[05:06] <pajamian> thug_life: regular x-chat, I never liked the xchat-gnome interface.
[05:07] <thug_life> I'll try the reg version
[05:07] <|myxb|> how can i connect to internet via wm6 smartphone using bluetooth?
[05:07] <neopsyche> can someone help me continue to install a program
[05:08] <neopsyche> Dr_Willis: can you continue to help me .. i think maby seacat is doing something else
[05:08] <seacat> neopsyche, You need to solve the GPG error problem.
[05:08] <neopsyche> oh
[05:08] <badkitty> neopsyche: Please go ahead and proceed with the question
[05:08] <neopsyche> GPG
[05:08] <neopsyche> its ok.. seacat is back
[05:08] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  i dont even know where you left off.   :)
[05:08] <seacat> !GPG
[05:08] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[05:08] <neopsyche> seacat: is that the problem.?
[05:09] <pawan> any other
[05:09] <nickrud> neopsyche: I looked back, did you add that repo for any particular reason?
[05:09] <dover> hey guys, im having a problem installing ubuntu for the first time
[05:09] <nickrud> neopsyche: you can ignore that error though
[05:09] <badkitty> dover: errors?
[05:10] <dover> i downloaded both discs but i got no luck with either
[05:10] <neopsyche> nickrud: yeah.. just to install the studio desktop .. but not much else
[05:10] <dover> basically i dont even get to the installation point
[05:10] <neopsyche> nickrud: yeah i thought so
[05:10] <badkitty> dover: Is the disc not booting or what is happenning?
[05:10] <neopsyche> nickrud: does that mean i can continue without gpg issue
[05:10] <pawan> hi
[05:10] <pawan> any other
[05:10] <neopsyche> seacat: nickrud says its no prob
[05:10] <nickrud> neopsyche: disable it if you don't plan on using it again. You will still keep the packages you have installed.
[05:10] <bazhang> !find paint
[05:11] <ubotu> Found: gpaint, tuxpaint, tuxpaint-data, tuxpaint-stamps-default, cinepaint (and 13 others)
[05:11] <dover> if i use the text based installation i get to the point where i detect the keyboard type
[05:11] <dover> then the screen goes blue and just stays that way
[05:11] <bazhang> pawan see above
[05:11] <kercyr> If you're suggesting a wireless adapter to someone who runs 7.10, what would you suggest?  Cheaper the better.... 802.11g...
[05:11] <IcemanV9> dover: hardy?
[05:11] <pajamian> dover: restart and run the memcheck
[05:11] <badkitty> dover: What about the regular disc what happens with that?
[05:11] <neopsyche> seacat: ok
[05:11] <thug_life> has anyone got the creative zen working on 7.10?
[05:11] <seacat> !GPG | neopsyche
[05:11] <ubotu> neopsyche: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[05:11] <neopsyche> seacat: i think i have solved the prob
[05:11] <dover> well, i see the title screen i guess, with the orange bar at the bottom, looks like its loading...
[05:12] <neopsyche> seacat: but its fine on the default repos so why do i need to fix gpg i have disabled the offending repos
[05:12] <dover> then at some point the orange bar stops moving and my screen gets kinda weird
[05:12] <dover> like the images screw up
[05:12] <mjw-> dover what kind of graphics card do you have
[05:12] <dover> and it just stays that way
[05:12] <seacat> neopsyche, sudo apt-get update
[05:12] <dover> 5600
[05:12] <mjw-> Nvidia?
[05:12] <dover> yeah
[05:12] <badkitty> dover: Ok so it starts to boot ... thats nvidia?
[05:12] <badkitty> dover: that card should be fine
[05:13] <badkitty> dover: How long do you wait before you give up on it?
[05:13] <mouseboyx> dover, there are problems sometimes
[05:13] <dover> a few minutes
[05:13] <mouseboyx> sometimes you have to use the nvidia-glx instead of nvidia-glx-new and vice versa
[05:13] <badkitty> dover: Is your system fast or slow? The liveCD can take a while to load sometimes.. I've noticed it can be very termpermental
[05:14] <dover> its a 2.6 P4
[05:14] <pajamian> dover: I highly suspect you have bad RAM on your computer, I would recommend you run memcheck86 from the boot menu of either CD.
[05:14] <dover> like, 4 years old maybe
[05:14] <nuffin> i wish my nvidia card was supported.   have to use the nv driver.
[05:14] <cyphase> What does everyone think about having the Add/Remove Programs dialog only show one of each type of app by default? It could be a simple checkbox to show the rest. So, instead of showing 5 different browsers, it would only have firefox, or instead of 5 different feed readers, it would only have one (e.g. Liferea)
[05:14] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  been trying other upload sites -> http://www.load.to/?d=2FDgvRKuti        is that same file. :)
[05:14] <neopsyche> not sure.
[05:15] <badkitty> dover: Running a memcheck wouldn't hurt..
[05:15] <dover> weird that windows will install even with bad ram lol
[05:15] <seacat> nuffin, The nv driver is the supported driver module for Nvidia cards.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> dover,  with bad ram and windows.. you just notice it crashing a little bit more. :)
[05:15] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: yes
[05:15] <dragon> do i have to reboot for the update to show?
[05:15] <badkitty> dover: Well I doubt it is bad ram.. youd have bigger problems .. like nothing loading at all..
[05:16] <seacat> nuffin, In other words, your card is supported.
[05:16] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: the same
[05:16] <mjw-> dover have you tried to boot the graphical livecd in safe graphics mode?
[05:16] <pajamian> dover: it may not be bad RAM but that's the first thing I'd check.  It's very unlikely to be a problem with graphics card compatibility if the text based install on the alternate install CD fails.
[05:16] <dover> yeah
[05:16] <dover> same thing happens
[05:16] <neopsyche> seacat: ok so now config right?
[05:16] <nuffin> seacat the nv is the generic and doesn't support dirrect acceleration or 3d
[05:16] <jetscreamer> xvrefresh= and xhrefresh= , dover
[05:16] <seacat> neopsyche, yes
[05:16] <jetscreamer> google knoppix cheat codes dover
[05:17] <seacat> !nvidia | nuffin
[05:17] <ubotu> nuffin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:17] <neopsyche> seacat: ok.. now?
[05:17] <neopsyche> seacat: some of them still say no.
[05:17] <nuffin> seacat all i'm saying is that nv supports the family not any one card.  that's all.
[05:17] <jetscreamer> dover: the autodetection sucks for nvidia
[05:17] <mjw-> dover: pajamian has a point. the text installer should not be failing even if it was a card issue. That's likely a sign of hardware problems or some really bizarre piece of hardware you have
[05:17] <seacat> nuffin, Install missing dependencies
[05:18] <Gemmers> Does 7.10 have a feature similar to that windows aero thing?
[05:18] <Starnestommy> compiz-fusion?
[05:18] <nuffin> nuffin my card is not supported anymore
[05:18] <Dr_willis> !compiz | Gemmers
[05:18] <ubotu> Gemmers: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:18] <Dr_willis> compiz blows aero away
[05:18] <Gemmers> Thank you
[05:18] <Gemmers> Nice script bot btw
[05:18] <Joe__> having some issues helping somoene.  LiveCD, Gutsy, HP dv9500, the wireless doesn't work at all.   But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:18] <Gemmers> ahah
[05:19] <Gemmers> very nice
[05:19] <Gemmers> very very nice
[05:19] <thug_life> where is the router?
[05:19] <kilgariff> Hehe
[05:19] <Shroothy> whos on
[05:19] <kilgariff> guess not :)
[05:19] <Genius16> i am!
[05:19] <neopsyche> seacat: it said could not lock i think its because of synaptic
[05:19]  * alfermp is away: Away
[05:19] <Joe__> router is nearby, they have no problems under vista but want to try ubuntu and maybe switch
[05:19] <seacat> neopsyche, Yes, you will need to finish up with the synaptic package manager.
[05:20] <neopsyche> seacat: it seems to be hung on.. 99% [Waiting for headers]
[05:20] <Genius16> *gasp* someone has teh netwerk prob-leums!
[05:20] <jetscreamer> nuffin or whoever  ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.07/README/appendix-a.html
[05:20] <thug_life> maybe it's the liveCD - wireless on my install of 7.10 works fine.
[05:20] <dover> well, ill burn memtest to a disc and see if its a ram issue
[05:21] <dover> thanks
[05:21] <Joe__> yes, but you could have a different card
[05:21] <Gemmers> My ubuntu CD is done yay. It's a lightscribe disk so maybe I shall find an image
[05:21] <pajamian> dover: it's on both the install cds, just select it from the boot menu
[05:21] <mjw-> dover the liveCD has a memcheck boot option built in
[05:21] <neopsyche> seacat: ?
[05:21] <dover> oh...lol, ok
[05:21] <Gemmers> Is there a specific image that anyone recommends
[05:21] <jetscreamer> nuffin: or, ftp://x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/nv.4.html
[05:21] <seacat> neopsyche, let it finish.
[05:21] <neopsyche> ok
[05:22] <nuffin> jetscreamer i'll look but they dropped support for my card years ago
[05:22] <Joe__> is there another channel that deals specifically with wireless or hp issues?
[05:22] <neeto> I asked this in #apache, but no one answered, so I'm gonna try my luck here: does anyone know, using apache, how you tell it to list hidden directories (directories that start with dots) over HTTP?
[05:22] <neopsyche> seacat: can i do this update with synaptic too?
[05:22] <seacat> neopsyche, Yes
[05:23] <Hisotaso>  can anyone help me set up my cdrom in fstab and mtab?
[05:23] <thug_life> #wireless
[05:23] <neopsyche> seacat: rr http://repository.akirad.net akirad-gutsy/main Translation-en_ZA
[05:23] <neopsyche>   Connection failed
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Hisotaso,  you dont mess with mtab :)
[05:24] <pajamian> neeto: I think it's a setting in httpd.conf ... there's a setting that tells it what files *not* to list and somethign like .* is included in that.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Hisotaso,  my entry in fstab --> /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0
[05:24] <squidly> does anyone know of a way to convert a 32bit ubutnu install to a 64bit install?
[05:24] <neeto> pajamian: I'll look at it
[05:24] <nickrud> squidly: reinstall
[05:24] <squidly> nickrud: that's the only way.. blast.
[05:24] <Hisotaso> thanks willis
[05:25] <nuffin> jetscreamer not listed there.    but thanks for the try.
[05:25] <squidly> what about installing over my current install?
[05:25] <jetscreamer> nuffin: not listed on which
[05:25] <Hisotaso> ive been playin with fstab and mtab because im having issues with a multi disc install in cedega
[05:25] <jetscreamer> the xorg or nvidia
[05:25] <nickrud> squidly: that's what I did.
[05:25] <seacat> neopsyche,  You need to remove or comment out that repo
[05:25] <pajamian> squidly: I went the other way (64 bit to 32 bit) and the only solution I found was to install from scratch.
[05:26] <nickrud> squidly: if you do a reinstall, think about a separate home partition if you haven't already. Makes reinstalls, or running more than one version  painless
[05:26] <squidly> pajamian: that I can understand.
[05:26] <Hisotaso> can anyone share their cdrom line out of mtab please?
[05:26] <jetscreamer> nuffin: exactly which card
[05:26] <Gemmers> Does anyone know where I can find the ubuntu 7.10 ccd label
[05:26] <squidly> nickrud: yea the thing I'm more worried about is my sqldb's and my mythtv directories
[05:26] <nuffin> jetscreamer the first URL  the second lists nv as supporting the familey
[05:26] <squidly> the rest of it I can deal with
[05:26] <Gemmers> I want to use lightscribe for the first (and probably for the only time)
[05:27] <Creationist> Does anyone know how I can apply a custom album art cover to an entire album of .MP3 files?  Amarok only lets you use Amazon or custom pictures for individual files.
[05:27] <jetscreamer> nuffin: if nv supports it, the nvidia driver supports it also
[05:27] <nuffin> jetscreamer RIVA128 agp
[05:27] <jetscreamer> ah ok maybe not
[05:27] <nickrud> squidly: redirect them to /home/mythtv and /home/databases  on the next install  ;)
[05:27] <squidly> heh
[05:27] <dman> Creationist: by default Amarok applies the album art to all songs in that album...
[05:27] <mjw-> nuffin maybe it's time for a video card upgrade :)
[05:27] <alexkreuz> can anyone tell me how i mount smbfs drives on the desktop as icons?
[05:27] <neopsyche> seacat: done now
[05:27] <neeto> pajamian: since I'm not running redhat, httpd.conf means nothing, but in apache2.conf there was a setting that would hide .ht* files, but not anything else starting with a dot... :/
[05:27] <squidly> nickrud: well the myth dirs are on different disks. they pull a lot of data. I was more worried about my setup's for the and db files
[05:28] <seacat> neopsyche, sudo apt-get update
[05:28] <neopsyche> seacat: done
[05:28] <Creationist> dman: It only does that if you use Amazon to find the art.  If you want to set a custom cover, you can only do that one file at a time.
[05:28] <neopsyche> seacat: eading package lists... Done
[05:28] <squidly> I wonder if I could just change my deb.conf and apt-get update
[05:28] <nuffin> jetscreamer and no one has been able to provide any indication that my card has been supported sense X11R6
[05:28] <berend> does anyone have saviour
[05:28] <nickrud> squidly: I'm not familiar with mythtv and it's dbs, but I'm sure it's possible to get a safe backup
[05:28] <dman> Creationist: I've done it with a custom cover. it was for an album w/ 500 songs. all have it now.
[05:28] <pajamian> neeto: sorry, I actually run centos for my servers (and use ubuntu as the desktop) I just figured the conf file was named the same, I'll see if I can find the directive, though...
[05:28] <neopsyche> seacat: trying to configure now
[05:29] <neeto> pajamian: no worries man, I was just letting you know
[05:29] <squidly> nickrud: yea. I was much more looking for an inplcae upgrade
[05:29] <Creationist> dman:  How did you do that?  I can't change the art when I have more than one file selected.
[05:29] <squidly> Ok, I guess I'll do it on a vmware install and then write up a howto :D
[05:29] <IcemanV9> ever since hoary, there is no guided partitioning for a separate /home partition :-/ I wonder why it was left out?
[05:29] <pajamian> neeto: sure, no problem, the filename will be different but the content will be largely the same.
[05:29] <neopsyche> seacat: still cant find x-libraries path and some of the parts say 'no'
[05:29] <neeto> pajamian: ok
[05:29] <dman> Creationist: the same way as usual. select one track and change its album art. it should automatically apply to allt he others
[05:29] <squidly> pajamian: may I ask why you went from 64 back to 32 bit?
[05:30] <nuffin> jetscreamer but like i said, thanks for the attempt.  you would have nailed it if it was supported  ;/
[05:30] <Creationist> dman: Yeah, I would have assumed so too... but it's only applying it to that one file, not the entire album.
[05:30] <jetscreamer> nuffin: looks like you get to use nv and that's it
[05:30] <dman> Creationist: odd. is the album naem the same?
[05:30] <the_alamo> is GimpNet broken?  i want to ask #epiphany a question but i can't connect.  so either the server is down or there is something wrong with my computer
[05:30] <nuffin> jetscreamer see above ^  :)
[05:31] <lanzelloth> anyone ever heard of kernel update making wireless not work?
[05:31] <Onyx> crossover office is a beautiful thing.
[05:31] <neopsyche> seacat: ?
[05:31] <Creationist> dman: yes, identical.... all the songs are listed under the same album in Amarok too
[05:31] <Onyx> lanzelloth: Yes.
[05:31] <pajamian> squidly: it was fiesty at the time, but I found lots of problems with 64 bit on the desktop, mainly having to do with things such as flash and java being a pita to get working, plus not being able to use w32codecs for videos, etc.
[05:31] <seacat> neopsyche, fully updated now?
[05:31] <neopsyche> seacat: do i need to reconfigure the x path:/
[05:31] <neopsyche> .?
[05:31] <jetscreamer> yeah.. (messy)  nv says it supports your gpu nuffin . are you saying it doesn't?
[05:31] <neopsyche> seacat: yes updated
[05:31] <lanzelloth> Onyx: there was a kernel update a couple days ago?
[05:31] <dman> Creationist: that is weird...
[05:31] <squidly> pajamian: ahh okies.. yea this will be a backend server. no gui stuff needed ;)
[05:31] <Onyx> lanzelloth: In Ubuntu?  Yeah, I think so, but I don't use Ubuntu's kernel.  I build my own.
[05:32] <Darkmystere> Hi?
[05:32] <nuffin> jetscreamer no. i'm not.  i'm saying it supports it almost as well as vesa does.
[05:32] <alexkreuz> can anyone tell me how i mount smbfs drives on the desktop as icons?
[05:32] <jetscreamer> ah
[05:32] <dman> Creationist: maybe you messing with it before screwed something up . your solution might just be to do it manually fo that album.
[05:32] <seacat> neopsyche, ./configure
[05:32] <pajamian> squidly: ahhh, ok, I do run some centos servers as 64 bit and I have no problems with that.  My feelings is that 64 bit is good for the server but not for the desktop.
[05:32] <nuffin> which means no hardware accel. jetscreamer
[05:32] <seacat> neopsyche, What package are you trying to install?  What is the name of the package?
[05:32] <mjw-> nuffin the riva128 is just an old card. heck, how much memory does the one you have even possess? A lot of acceleration-type stuff will crap out if too little memory is present
[05:32] <squidly> pajamian: not until some of the more commanly used things are moved to 64bit like java and flash
[05:32] <jetscreamer> nuffin: you might get better performance running 16 bit instead of 32 (that thing does 32 eh?)  yeah no 3d
[05:32] <Genius16> alexkreuz: do you have the drives mounted somewhere with samba already?
[05:33] <pajamian> squidly: exactly
[05:33] <squidly> I actually run my main desktop as a multilib 64bit gentoo install
[05:33] <alexkreuz> yes i got that part already
[05:33] <alexkreuz> /mnt/lan/ARRAKIS/E
[05:33] <neopsyche> seacat: Kalva
[05:33] <z-dog> guyd
[05:33] <ERRor_student> help me
[05:33] <zelrikriando> http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=MAD0ebyFFYY
[05:33] <squidly> but for servers I like not having to deal with a lot of compileing
[05:33] <ERRor_student> i have a webcam suyin, but not detect on feisty
[05:33] <ERRor_student> ?
[05:33] <lanzelloth> Onyx: oh.. now the applet thing can detect wireless networks but can't join into one, you think this is related to the kernel update?
[05:33] <Genius16> alexkreus: if you're running gnome you could always do a symbolic link to the desktop.
[05:33] <lanzelloth> Onyx: it was working fine a couple days ago
[05:33] <mjw-> nuffin switching to a depth of 16bpp helped fix rendering issues for me with an old ATI Radeon Mobility chipset. There was too little video memory for acceleration at 24/32bpp
[05:34] <pajamian> squidly: I tried that, but I found that the pain of getting 32 bit things to work on a setup like that was not outweighed by the performance differences of 64 bit vs 32 bit.  I just run 32 bit now and everything works painlessly.
[05:34] <dragon> ok doing that update where i am supose to update to edgy eft did nothing im still on dapper drake
[05:34] <nuffin> mjw- it's a "real" agp interface and 32m ram i think...
[05:34] <z-dog> how do you fix the two 'nh' errors in the dmfe driver file
[05:34] <Onyx> lanzelloth: You probably just need to do a network encryption configuration again.  You probably lost the keys when you did the kernel update would be my guess.
[05:34] <squidly> pajamian: for me it works well with gentoo. but then everything is pretty much compiled as 64bit
[05:34] <dman> Creationist: i just did it to experiment. worked fine.
[05:34] <mjw-> nuffin the wiki page says the riva128 it came with 4-8mb
[05:35] <Genius16> alexkreus: ln -s /path/to/samba/mount /home/$USERNAME/Desktop/WhateverFolderName
[05:35] <Creationist> dman: Well, that's the beauty of Linux... just because it works for 50 other people, doesn't mean it will for the other 50 ;)
[05:35] <bazhang> Creationist: indeed no problems here either
[05:35] <pajamian> squidly: yes, I can see that it would work better with gentoo sinc eyou can control the compilation of everything.
[05:35] <alexkreuz> Genius16 let me try that
[05:35] <nuffin> mjw- the pci does,  but the agp is higher
[05:35] <squidly> pajamian: yep. I once I get my server in my noc at work, I will help with developmenting and making 64bit packages for ubuntu
[05:36] <squidly> I love the distro. its like debian only newer :D
[05:36]  * squidly ducks
[05:36] <neopsyche> seacat: any ideas?
[05:36] <dman> Creationist: true enough. do yuo have an album art image in the folder. or more than one?
[05:36] <Creationist> ...because I certainly am being forced to do each file individually
[05:36] <seacat> neopsyche, DOwnload the .deb from  http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4524&release_id=11307
[05:36] <mjw-> nuffin try bumping the depth down to 16 in your xorg.conf, it might help
[05:36] <pajamian> squidly: yep, the 64 bit packaging in ubuntu is largely good, though.  The main problems is with proprietary stuff that you can't get source code on.
[05:36] <ubud> any software that can play different code of dvd?
[05:36] <Creationist> dman: No, I have the album art images in separate folders and I'm trying to apply them to the albums in my collection.... not working.
[05:36] <squidly> pajamian: very true. that is mostly were the world would be needed
[05:36] <Genius16> ubud: different code of dvd?
[05:37] <ubud> region
[05:37] <seacat> neopsyche,  dpkg -i kalva_0.8.90-1_i386.deb
[05:37] <dman> Creationist: i did put the album art in the same folder as the files. maybe that helps?
[05:37] <Genius16> ubud: vlc i believe
[05:37] <jetscreamer> nuffin: what pci id does lspci | grep -i nvidia  return?
[05:37] <pajamian> neeto: IndexIgnore
[05:37] <wers> in terms of quality, is openwengo better than skype?
[05:37] <Creationist> Why the hell doesn't Amarok have the option to "Set custom cover" when right-clicking an album... it offers to fetch the cover from Amazon, but you don't have the option to choose your own?
[05:37] <neopsyche> seacat: what about it?
[05:37] <en3r0> hello
[05:37] <neeto> pajamian: in apache2.conf?
[05:37] <lanzelloth> Onyx: that's not it, i tried that
[05:37] <neopsyche> seacat: i already downloaded that package
[05:37] <nuffin> mjw- no can do.  it does 24,15,8,...  no 16 avalable
[05:37] <Creationist> dman: Do you have to name it something specific?
[05:37] <pajamian> neeto: in one of the .conf files somewhere
[05:37] <alexkreuz> Genius16, thanks if nothing else this should be fine, but is there a way to mount it so that it actually shows up as a real folder and doesn't show up as a deletable shortcut?
[05:37] <Genius16> alexkreus: work for you?
[05:37] <diii> i want to preserve a livecd's contents after i've booted. does anyone know how i could do that? i got it to work with aufs, but ubuntu 7.10 has unionfs and the code i had working with debian fails (even though it mounts without errors on ubuntu /w unionfs)  mount -t unionfs -o dirs=/mnt/sda1:/mnt/cdrom/=ro none /
[05:37] <seacat> neopsyche,  http://prdownload.berlios.de/kalva/kalva_0.8.90-1_i386.deb
[05:38] <seacat> neopsyche,  dpkg -i kalva_0.8.90-1_i386.deb
[05:38] <neeto> pajamian: thanks man
[05:38] <pajamian> neeto: mine has this: IndexIgnore .??* *~ *# HEADER* README* RCS CVS *,v *,t
[05:38] <dman> Creationist: not that i know of. mine was just random letters.
[05:38] <Creationist> dman: I want the art to be embedded in the MP3, though, so when I tranfer it to my mp3 player, it works well.
[05:38] <squidly> pajamian: ubuntu actually saved my old boss several times from him self :D
[05:38] <pajamian> neeto: if you were to take out the .??* then it would list hidden files and directories
[05:38] <jetscreamer> nuffin: i mean gpu model, not pciid
[05:38] <alexkreuz> let me elaborate, while this gives me quick access, from the file manager it still doesn't show up as a "Mapped Drive"
[05:38] <Genius16> alexkreus: i know there is in KDE but im not so sure in gnome. id assume there is a similar way to, but im only familiar with KDE
[05:38] <alexkreuz> i see thanks for the help though
[05:38] <italys> why isn't alsaconf included with edgy even though alsa-utils is installed?
[05:38] <alexkreuz> i appreciate it
[05:38] <neopsyche> seacat: dpkg error cannot acccess archive
[05:38] <alexkreuz> this is good enough for now
[05:38] <Creationist> dman: Hmm... even fetching a cover from Amazon doesn't apply it to the entire album.
[05:38] <jetscreamer> alsaconf is in alsa0utils
[05:38] <jetscreamer> -
[05:39] <lanzelloth> Creationist: amarok?
[05:39] <italys> yes
[05:39] <en3r0> anyone here use the boradcom43xx wireless card?
[05:39] <italys> i understand that
[05:39] <neopsyche> seacat: what do you want me to do with that package?
[05:39] <bazhang> is edgy still supported even?
[05:39] <Creationist> lanzelloth: Yeah
[05:39] <dman> Creationist: i'm not sure if Amarok does that. i think so, tho. You should try #amarok for experts
[05:39] <pajamian> squidly: cool, I have only been using ubuntu since feisty, but I've found it to be that good that I'm now recommending it and installing it on friends computers, etc.
[05:39] <italys> alsaconf doesn't exist
[05:39] <jetscreamer> hey you're not dman the famous mapper are you
[05:39] <Creationist> Maybe I'll stop using amarok... I always have problems with it.
[05:39] <dman> jetscreamer: not that i know of. who is he?
[05:39] <lanzelloth> Creationist: i think sometimes it lags, the cover thing
[05:39] <squidly> pajamian: same here. I started with 6.02 (i think) and have been useing it ever since.
[05:39] <seacat> neopsyche, Install it,  dpkg -i   should install it.   Did you get an error?
[05:39] <luckyshot> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu on an iBook G4 and realize there is no word processing application pre installed suchas openoffice etc. Can someone tell me how to install this?
[05:40] <nuffin> jetscreamer (rev 22)
[05:40] <squidly> I've been giveing it to friends to use. though my gf gets a kde desktop on my system
[05:40] <seacat> neopsyche,  Did you first download the file?
[05:40] <ethan961> luckyshot, there should be
[05:40] <neopsyche> seacat: yes.. if i click on the .deb to install it i get an error
[05:40] <Creationist> luckyshot: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[05:40] <Genius16> ethan961: i hope there is!
[05:40] <lanzelloth> Creationist: that'd be sad, amarok is prolly the best there is
[05:40] <italys> how do i get alsaconf installed
[05:40] <en3r0> anyone here use the boradcom43xx wireless card?
[05:40] <seacat> neopsyche,  dpkg -i kalva_0.8.90-1_i386.deb
[05:40] <italys> i tried compiling it by hand but it's missing some library that is installed
[05:40] <squidly> in a couple of weeks i'm helping a friend with an install fest, ubuntu and xubuntu
[05:40] <luckyshot> Creationist, thanks
[05:40] <bazhang> !edgy
[05:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) was the fifth release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:40] <nuffin> jetscreamer or you mean the   NVidia / SGS Thomson   ?
[05:40] <Genius16> luckyshot: if you would like to find the package manager (synaptic) in the menus you can search for open office
[05:41] <Creationist> lanzelloth: Well, it's the best idea there is.. .. but with killer bugs like I always seem to have, it's not a viable solution for me yet.
[05:41] <Genius16> man im slow... oh wait, im drunk!
[05:41] <pajamian> squidly: been on RH and then FC before that, I stopped using FC when they scrapped Fedora Legacy.
[05:41] <hi__> hi!
[05:41] <squidly> pajamian: I stoped useing roothat back around rh5
[05:41] <seacat> neopsyche, IF that does not work, you'll need to compile from source.  But dpkg -i should do the job for you.
[05:41] <hi__> how can i set the label of a vfat partition?
[05:41] <squidly> or was it rh6
[05:41] <Genius16> fedora core before redhat?
[05:41] <lanzelloth> en3r0: read this yet http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990 ?
[05:41] <squidly> cant remember
[05:41] <wers> what is i686? :D
[05:41] <squidly> Genius16: RH was before FC
[05:42] <Genius16> yeah i knows
[05:42] <neopsyche> seacat: how will dpkg-i solve the dependency problem?
[05:42] <squidly> wers: i686 is a p4+ class proccessor
[05:42] <nuffin> hi__ from windows is prolly the best way
[05:42] <wers> squidly, how about celerons?
[05:42] <Genius16> "been on RH and then FC before that" thought i was drunker than i should be am
[05:42] <squidly> hi__: you can use fdisk to do it but its a pain.. and I don't recomend it
[05:42] <squidly> wers: iirc they are 686 class cpus
[05:42] <mjw-> I believe i686 is used to refer to anything pentium pro or higher
[05:42] <hi__> i thought this would be an easy task
[05:43] <seacat> neopsyche,  What dependency?
[05:43] <nuffin> fdisk to lable an fs ?
[05:43] <pajamian> Genetics: hehehe
[05:43] <squidly> nuffin: well lable the partision. :)
[05:43] <pajamian> Genetics: I meant that I had been on RH and then FC before switching to Ubuntu
[05:43] <squidly> vfat does not have anyreal use IMHO any more
[05:43] <Genius16> can gparted set the labels? im not sure. \
[05:43] <pajamian> errr Genius16
[05:43] <italys> so uh
[05:43] <jetscreamer> dman: http://shaderlab.com/q3map2/manual/images/dmanshot_files/
[05:43] <Genius16> pajamian: what did i break?
[05:43] <squidly> Genius16: Idk I dont use gparted
[05:44] <italys> what is the latest version of ubuntu
[05:44] <seacat> neopsyche, WHat does it say you need?
[05:44] <jetscreamer> nuffin: just show me the line
[05:44] <jetscreamer> !paste
[05:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:44]  * squidly is a cli freak. :)
[05:44] <en3r0> i have enabled firmware for the broadcome 43xx chipset family, and i says in use with a green light, yet detects nothing
[05:44] <neopsyche> seacat: the package asks for kdelibs4c2 and I have kdelibs4c2a of which dependant upon are open office / amarok as well as many other packages i need
[05:44] <jetscreamer> nuffin: or, it's just one line...
[05:44] <pajamian> Genius16: nothing, tab key nick completion struck me, I said Genetics when I meant Genius16
[05:44] <bazhang> gutsy italys
[05:44] <italys> what is the numerics of gutsy
[05:44] <bobbyd> hi
[05:44] <italys> .15?
[05:44] <dman> jetscreamer: nope, sorry =] looks good tho
[05:44] <squidly> pajamian: lol tab completion ftw! :D
[05:44] <neopsyche> seacat: how can that issue be resolved?
[05:44] <bobbyd> how do I set open nfs mounts under Ubuntu?
[05:45]  * pajamian loves tab completion, but it does get you in trouble from time to time, esp in a channel with 1100+ users.
[05:45] <bazhang> 7.10 italys
[05:45] <squidly> bobbyd: what do you mean by open an nfs mount
[05:45] <squidly> pajamian: heh.. yea save here
[05:45] <dman> pajamian: agreed
[05:45] <mkquist> bobbyd: do you mean mount an nfs partition?
[05:45] <nuffin> jetscreamer it's just one line and that's all of it really   NVidia / SGS Thomson Riva128 (rev 22)
[05:45] <bobbyd> squidly: I have some nfs directories exported on my server, but I can't remember how to access them from my laptop under Nautilus
[05:46] <squidly> bobbyd: with Nautilus IDK but you need to mount them first
[05:46] <neopsyche> seacat: ?
[05:46] <seacat> neopsyche, sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2  kdelibs4c2a
[05:46] <mjw-> nuffin: run lspci -vvv and it should show how much video memory you have if you wade through it
[05:46] <Genius16> you typically need to mount nfs
[05:46] <bobbyd> squidly: and how do I mount them?
[05:46] <squidly> mount -t nfs server:export /local/mount/point
[05:46] <neopsyche> seacat: Package kdelibs4c2 has no installation candidate
[05:46] <bobbyd> squidly: there's no graphical way to do that?
[05:47] <Genius16> bobbyd: to make it perm its a bit more complicated
[05:47] <italys> does gutsy include alsa-conf?
[05:47] <italys> er alsaconf
[05:47] <bazhang> !info alsaconf
[05:47] <bobbyd> Genius16: I know how to do that in fstab, but I'd like to not edit text...
[05:47] <Genius16> bobbyd: theres no graphical samba tool to mount partitions that im aware of
[05:47] <adorablepuppy> I've had this problem since Feisty and still have it in Gutsy. My Templates aren't registering in the "Create New" context menu. I'm not imagining it, I've got a document in there, but it still tells me I've got no templates installed. Anyone have any idea what would cause it?
[05:47] <ubotu> Package alsaconf does not exist in gutsy
[05:47] <squidly> bobbyd: not that I konw of off the top of my head. I'm much more of an old school tuxer. I harldy use a gui for anything other then having about 20 consoles open
[05:47] <bobbyd> Genius16: it's not samba, it's NFS
[05:47] <bobbyd> squidly: :(
[05:48] <bazhang> !find alsa
[05:48] <ubotu> Found: alsa-base, alsa-utils, gstreamer0.10-alsa, libesd-alsa0, libsdl1.2debian-alsa (and 37 others)
[05:48] <Khisanth> adorablepuppy: well there is Places->Connect to Server
[05:48] <Genius16> bobbyd: either way?
[05:48] <squidly> bobbyd: sorry. I dont use gnome either.. I use fluxbox. CLI ftw baby :)
[05:48] <luckyshot> hey guys, is there any guide on instaling compiz on ubuntu someone can pass to me?
[05:48] <bobbyd> I'm sure I've done thins in the GUI in ubuntu on my other laptop
[05:48] <neopsyche> seacat: is there a way to fix that?
[05:48] <adorablepuppy> Khisanth: What's that got to do with document templates?
[05:48] <bazhang> !ccsm | luckyshot
[05:48] <bobbyd> squidly: boo!
[05:48] <ubotu> luckyshot: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[05:48] <pajamian> Genius16: bobbyd: there is a network manager similar to the one in windows that I believe will graphically find and mount both samba and nfs partitions.
[05:48] <Genius16> luckyshot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582535&highlight=compiz+Kubuntu&page=4
[05:48] <squidly> but then considering I dot 99% of my admin on remote servers cli is the best way for me
[05:48] <seacat> neopsyche,  You need to add repo
[05:48] <neopsyche> seacat: which one?
[05:49] <bobbyd> pajamian: do you know where that is?
[05:49] <squidly> bobbyd: sorry.
[05:49] <seacat> neopsyche, I don't know.
[05:49] <mjw-> nuffin you'll want to find this sort of entry: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55313/
[05:49] <pajamian> bobbyd: let me look, one min ...
[05:49] <Khisanth> adorablepuppy: you were right below Genius16's response :)
[05:49] <Genius16> luckyshot: the gnome version is pretty much the same
[05:49] <nuffin> mjw- i guess you wanted this http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5d6c89a9  ?
[05:49] <luckyshot> Genius16, thanks ill try it out
[05:49] <pajamian> bobbyd: Places menu
[05:50] <neopsyche> seacat: why would i need to add a repo to get the old version .. is it possible to get the old version running along side the new version?
[05:50] <pajamian> brb
[05:50] <Genius16> neopsyche: thats crazy talks!
[05:50] <squidly> oh shit.. it's amost midnight. ive gotta get ready to head to my gf's place
[05:50] <Genius16> neopsyche: dont listen to me... id suggest you use magic.
[05:50] <mjw-> nuffin well try 15bpp is my best suggestion. that card may not even be able to use all 32mb for a framebuffer
[05:50] <squidly> Genius16: lol. I've done that when I needed to do some pen tesing
[05:51] <lnknpk04> hey seacat, I finished booting my box with the live cd (mine was only booting to a blank screen with a cursor).  I can access all of my files, but I had a hunch based on my reading what the problem could be.
[05:51] <RyanPrior> I've got an NTFS external hard drive. Some folders cannot be deleted, always resulting in I/O errors. Is there some way I can force the folders to be deleted? If the drive has errors, is there some way I can fix them?
[05:51] <neopsyche> Genius16: er.. right
[05:51] <Peddy> can somebody *please* help me with screen refresh rates
[05:51] <Genius16> squidly: i know its me... but what? im lost:(\
[05:51] <neopsyche> seacat: thanks for the help
[05:51] <nuffin> mjw- ok.  but why not use 24 bit colour ?
[05:51] <RyanPrior> !patience | Peddy
[05:51] <ubotu> Peddy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:51] <neopsyche> seacat: now.. back to the copiling
[05:51] <neopsyche> *compiling
[05:51] <squidly> Genius16: sorry. I've had multiple versions installed sideby side when I was doing penetration tests. (legal hacking)
[05:51] <lnknpk04> with upgrades, if my linux headers were updated, could that have a negative impact on my grub menu.lst?
[05:51] <Peddy> RyanPrior: huh?
[05:52] <seacat> neopsyche, http://pastebin.ca/897085
[05:52] <neopsyche> seacat: how do i fix those issues in compile?
[05:52] <mjw-> nuffin because the server may basically be running out of video memory in trying to enable acceleration
[05:52] <neopsyche> pk
[05:52] <neopsyche> ok
[05:52] <Peddy> OK
[05:52] <Genius16> squidly: oh. yeah i was just being a dork.
[05:52] <Peddy> I won't say please then :P
[05:52] <nuffin> hmm could be i guess.
[05:52] <Peddy> can somebody help me with screen refresh rates?
[05:52] <seacat> neopsyche, Are you in USA?
[05:52] <squidly> Genius16: lol. over all its usualy a bigger pain then its worth
[05:52] <squidly> Peddy: what about refresh rates?
[05:52] <Genius16> squidly: ive had multiple versions of the same program installed a bunch of times too. mostly its like "shit! how do i uninstall this SOB?"
[05:53] <Peddy> squidly I can only get mine up to 52 for some reason
[05:53] <squidly> Genius16: rotf. I've been there too.. or my favorate is "oh shit, it linked to the wrong version"
[05:53] <Peddy> squidly: I have an LCD monitor connecting with a DVI connection
[05:53] <neopsyche> seacat: pastebin doesnt show anyting
[05:53] <neopsyche> seacat: no
[05:53] <neopsyche> seacat: not in usa
[05:53] <squidly> Peddy: what video driver are you using? what vid card do you have?
[05:54] <Genius16> peddy: what videocard and driver you using?
[05:54] <neopsyche> *anything
[05:54] <Peddy> squidly: I have the nvidia 8800 gts
[05:54] <Peddy> squidly: I am using restricted drivers
[05:54] <calamari> hi
[05:54] <squidly> Peddy: oh.. sounds like somehting in you xorg.conf is not set write
[05:54] <Peddy> squidly: installed through restricted-drivers manager*
[05:54] <Peddy> squidly: yeah
[05:54] <Peddy> squidly: should I paste it in a pastebin?
[05:54] <seacat> How does one find what repository a package comes from?
[05:55] <squidly> Peddy: one sec
[05:55] <Genius16> squidly: you type too fast for me to beat you to it... so im just gonna suggest... magic.
[05:55] <mjw-> nuffin what do you get when you do: glxinfo | grep direct
[05:55] <Peddy> squidly: sure
[05:55] <squidly> Genius16: lol..
[05:55] <nuffin> mjw- was i right about how much ram it has btw ?   cause that's what M$ reports on it.
[05:55] <squidly> Peddy: ok /msg me your Section "Monitor" of your xorg.conf
[05:55] <Genius16> seacat: thats an awesome question! i have no idea (other than searching ubuntu's page of packages) and would also like to know the answer!
[05:55] <Frogzoo> where's acroread gone?
[05:55] <squidly> Genius16: its called being on irc WAY to much :)
[05:56] <JohnMM> !info acroread | Frogzoo
[05:56] <nuffin> mjw- ummm right now.  -root: glxinfo: command not found
[05:56] <ubotu> frogzoo: Package acroread does not exist in gutsy
[05:56] <Genius16> squidly: yeah. this is like the 4th time in a year ive logged into ubuntu's irc... oh and im like pretty drunk.
[05:56] <squidly> Frogzoo: use xpdf. its works just as well
[05:56] <mjw-> nuffin it's split into 16M prefetchable and 16M non-prefetchable....so it is 32M, the way it's segregated like that makes me wonder if it's old enough that some of the memory may be for 3D textures only and can't be used otherwise
[05:56] <squidly> Genius16: perfet time to code then!
[05:56] <Peddy> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[05:56] <Peddy> 	Vendorname	"Generic LCD Display"
[05:56] <Peddy> 	Modelname	"LCD Panel 1280x1024"
[05:56] <Peddy> 	Horizsync	31.5-64.0
[05:56] <Peddy> 	Vertrefresh	56.0 - 65.0
[05:56] <FloodBot3> Peddy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <Peddy>   modeline  "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync
[05:56] <mouseboyx> great
[05:56] <squidly> Genius16: I come up with some really messed up solutions on when I was drunk
[05:56] <Frogzoo> squidly: I know, but I want acroread..
[05:57] <squidly> Frogzoo: okies just an idea :D
[05:57] <luckyshot> how do install my 3D video drivers? and how do i know what video drivers i need too?
[05:57] <seacat> Genetics, Packages in question:  kdelibs4c2  kdelibs4c2a
[05:57] <Peddy> squidly: what just happened?
[05:57] <RyanPrior> luckyshot: The Restricted Manager ought to be able to sort out your 3D drivers.
[05:57] <squidly> Peddy: you accidnetly flooded the chan
[05:57] <RyanPrior> luckyshot: System -> Administration -> Restricted Manager
[05:57] <squidly> pastbin your config
[05:57] <mouseboyx> squidly, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be3alRoxkOo
[05:57] <Vadi> If I boot off livecd, will I be able to size down my /home and make the root bigger?
[05:57] <nuffin> mjw- that might explain why my scrollback buffer is kinda short in console....   makes sense
[05:57]  * Peddy apologises to everyone for being an xchat noob
[05:57] <luckyshot> RyanPrior, i am int hat window and my video card is not listed
[05:58] <luckyshot> does that mean all is good?
[05:58] <squidly> Peddy: heh.. no worries we all were there
[05:58] <jetscreamer> nuffin: have you 'tried' ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/71.86.04/ ? according to the driver selector thing on nvidia.com, that supports riva128 . that's why i was trying to find out your pci id, to see if it's listed, but...   ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/71.86.04/README/README  (app-a) APPENDIX A
[05:58] <neopsyche> seacat: ???
[05:58] <Peddy> squidly: ok I'm just gonna use pastebin :P
[05:58] <squidly> mouseboyx: I LOVE THAT!!!
[05:58] <Genius16> squidly: coding is too much like work to me. unless im programming a crawler to pull pr0n. haha
[05:58] <Peddy> squidly: http://pastebin.com/d72a7c2af
[05:58] <RyanPrior> Peddy: It's no problem! Welcome. If you do anything out of line, we'll tell you about it and stop crying pretty quick. :-)
[05:58] <squidly> mouseboyx: that saved my sanity when I was on hell desk :D
[05:58] <mjw-> nuffin you should have glxinfo (well, mesa) installed if you hope to have ANY OpenGL acceleration at all. apt-get install mesa-utils
[05:58] <squidly> Peddy: ok looing now
[05:59] <RyanPrior> luckyshot: In that case, it would appear that your video card is not supported.
[05:59] <mjw-> nuffin honestly you can pick up, say, a Geforce2MX for pennies used though, I wouldn't expend a lot of effort on such an old card
[05:59] <nuffin> mjw- k  but htat will have to be some other time.   i'm not installing x on this particular system.    (several shoes here)
[05:59] <seacat> neopsyche,  kdelibs4c2  and  kdelibs4c2a are probably in universe repos
[06:00] <RyanPrior> luckyshot: Unless it's an Intel integrated graphics card, in which case you might not need a restricted driver.
[06:00] <neopsyche> OH
[06:00] <italys> so uh
[06:00] <italys> how do i get alsaconf installed
[06:00] <neopsyche> *oh
[06:00] <Peddy> squidly: when I select my monitor and connection in displayconfig-gtk it lets me choose 70hz
[06:00] <luckyshot> RyanPrior, im using an iBook G4
[06:00] <Peddy> squidly: so when I hit ok, it just resets when I try and go back :-\
[06:00] <Gemmers> I'm back hurrah
[06:01] <Gemmers> Um I've just downloaded ubuntu desktop version
[06:01] <Gemmers> There's no other version for my notebook is there
[06:01] <squidly> Peddy: well your config looks good.
[06:01] <seacat> neopsyche, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment lines that end in universe
[06:01] <neopsyche> seacat: whats the repo i need to add (universe) ?
[06:01] <RyanPrior> luckyshot: Ah, I don't know much about Mac hardware myself, so that's not useful to me, but it's a good thing to mention whenever you ask for helop.
[06:01] <seacat> neopsyche,  I think so
[06:01] <mkquist> Gemmers: no
[06:01] <nuffin> mjw- actually this box had an ati card in it,  that's why it now has my old standby riva  ;/
[06:01] <Blistok> Hey all. I have a hard drive that's going out that I want to directly clone to a new hard drive. How can I grab a byte-for-byte image of the drive and restore the image to a new one? Can I just cat /dev/drivedevice > driveimage? If so how do I restore it?
[06:01] <luckyshot> RyanPrior, okay thanks
[06:01] <seacat> neopsyche,  Try it and see,
[06:01] <RyanPrior> luckyshot: Good luck. :-)
[06:01] <Peddy> squidly: and displayconfig-gtk shows it as 50hz?
[06:01] <squidly> what does nvidia-settings show?
[06:01]  * Gemmers wipes forehead
[06:02] <pajamian> Blistok: not cat, dd
[06:02] <mjw-> nuffin Geforce2mx might be the cheapest option that will probably be fairly well supported. ;)
[06:02] <calamari> been trying to get a wireless adapter working.. got it.. but I had to stop my firewall.  anyone know how to get firestarter to configure so that its settings apply to both eth0 and eth1, not just eth0?
[06:02] <seacat> neopsyche, and then:   sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2  kdelibs4c2a
[06:02] <Peddy> squidly: I mean its rather pointless buying a gfx card like that if you can only get like 40fps ^^
[06:02] <squidly> Genius16: I like to code its fun. but then i'm a freak like that
[06:02] <neopsyche> seacat: ok.. i uncommented backports
[06:02] <nuffin> Blistok dd
[06:02] <squidly> Peddy: try commenting out the modelines and restarting X
[06:02] <Blistok> pajamian: ah. ok, looks like I have a manpage to read
[06:02] <pajamian> Blistok: dd if=/dev/foo of=driveimage.img
[06:02] <Blistok> pajamian: much easier. thanks! how do I restore that image file to the new drive?
[06:03] <nuffin> Blistok or dirrect with no image   dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
[06:03] <pajamian> Blistok: if dd dies saying it can't read a block or something add conv=noerror as well, it will copy in spite of the errors that way.
[06:03] <seacat> neopsyche, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment lines that end in universe  (not backports)
[06:03] <Gemmers> does anyone here actually run ubuntu on their notebook
[06:03] <squidly> Peddy: did you get my pm?
[06:03] <CrazyPhil_> Hello. How tu use ascii code in Ubuntu? Like Alt+1234. Thx
[06:03] <nickrud> neopsyche: you don't need backports, those sources you had were fine. What can't you find?
[06:03] <Roy> Gemmers: I do
[06:03] <pajamian> Blistok: other option, mount the drive and just a use cp-a
[06:03] <RyanPrior> Gemmers: I run Ubuntu on my notebook.
[06:03] <pajamian> Blistok: errr cp -a
[06:03] <squidly> im currently running at 70hz
[06:03] <mjw-> Gemmers : yes, on an ~2002 dell latitude c510
[06:04] <Frogzoo> hey no acroread in the gutsy repos ?! - can only find the .deb from adobe's site...?
[06:04] <neopsyche> nickrud: E: Package kdelibs4c2 has no installation candidate
[06:04] <Gemmers> Roy, did you notice any difference in battery life
[06:04] <nickrud> neopsyche: http://pastebin.ca/897085 these were, anyway if they are yours
[06:04] <RyanPrior> Gemmers: The "Desktop" edition is also suitable for notebooks. It contains drivers for mobile graphics cards, wireless drivers, ACPI, and so on.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> Frogzoo,  its in medibuntu repos i beliuve
[06:04] <mkbernard> is it possible to have a samba share without hacing to login to the server?
[06:04] <RyanPrior> Gemmers: Often Ubuntu gets worse battery life than Windows due to less complete support for ACPI power saving features and power saving support in general.
[06:04] <Blistok> pajamian: ok, thank you... what's the reverse for that dd command?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> mkbernard,  you can set up all sorts of samba shares. Theres whole books on the topic. :)
[06:04] <neopsyche> seacat: universes are already uncommented
[06:05] <Dr_willis> mkbernard,  the samba-doc package has the html book 'using samba' thats worth a read for advanced samba ussage.
[06:05] <pajamian> Blistok: dd if=imagefile of=/cev/whatever
[06:05] <nickrud> neopsyche: it's kdelibs4c2a , you probably also will need kdelibs4-dev for compiling
[06:05] <pajamian> Blistok: or...
 Gemmers: Often Ubuntu gets worse battery life than Windows due to less complete support for ACPI power saving features and power saving support in general. | that's my conern
[06:05] <neopsyche> nickrud: pastebin shows blank page
[06:05] <Roy> Gemmers: The battery standby time is longer than what I used to get when I ran Vista on it.
[06:05] <dover> well, tried memetest and it doesnt look like my memory's an issue
[06:05] <Adman1965> Hey guys
[06:05] <Adman1965> I have a simple question
[06:05] <nickrud> neopsyche: I copied that from your post earlier ;)
[06:05] <neopsyche> nickrud: no.. i have E: Package kdelibs4c2a i need the other one
[06:05] <dover> acould ANY piece of hardware keep ubuntu from even installing?
[06:05] <Gemmers> I wish it would be longer since ubuntu uses less resources
[06:05] <nuffin> Blistok command   man dd    :)
[06:05] <pajamian> Blistok: mount the image and copy the contents off of it, you can loopback mount the image with: mount -oloop imagefile /media/mountpoint
[06:06] <Dr_willis> dover,  ive heard of some machines/hardwares that do have issues.
[06:06] <mkbernard> does each user have to have an account on the box, or is there a way to add a username and password just for the smbd?
[06:06] <Roy> My battery stand-by time in Ubuntu is 2 and a half hour compared to 2 hours in Windows.
[06:06] <Blistok> pajamian: thanks!
[06:06] <neopsyche> seacat: what do we do now?
[06:06] <dover> so what did they do?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> mkbernard,  thers ways to have public samba shares.
[06:06] <nickrud> neopsyche: install kdelibs4-dev , it will pull in the matching binary
[06:06] <dover> they just dont install it?
[06:06] <Adman1965> does anyone know a graphics card that will do 1600x1050 on 7.10?
[06:06] <dover> or get anotyher version of linux?
[06:06] <neopsyche> seacat: back to compiling... how / what must i do now?
[06:06] <leprasmurf> hello all...I'm about to go to bed, what is the most thorough scan of my system that I can run while I sleep?
[06:06] <Adman1965> i am looking to make sure before i purchase
[06:06] <RyanPrior> Gemmers: Windows often uses a slew of tricks to improve battery life, which require special drivers to utilize fully. Often Ubuntu doesn't have support for those, so while it is in some ways more efficient than Windows, it is less able to take advantage of the special hardware features.
[06:06] <seacat> neopsyche, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment lines that end in restricted
[06:06] <RyanPrior> Gemmers: That's obviously a problem that's being worked on, but it is an honest problem right now.
[06:06] <mkbernard> adman, filesystem check
[06:06] <Genius16> leprasmurf: restart at least 40 times and wait for a disc scan
[06:07] <pajamian> dover: it is technically possible for any piece of hardware to cause all sorts of strange and unpredictable problems.
[06:07] <lanzelloth> hi, how do i add 'start terminal here' in right click menu in nautilus?
[06:07] <Gemmers> soRoy how did you manage that
[06:07] <Adman1965> I am thinking about a 7300LE
[06:07] <leprasmurf> Genius16: I already did an fsck in single user mode
[06:07] <italys> when i try to compile alsa-utils, it can't find libasound even though it's installed
[06:07] <Dr_willis> and edit the .bashrc to make the changes permenet
[06:07] <italys> any suggestions?
[06:07] <dover> man...some luck...lol my buddy says get ubuntu, its really easy to install, i doubt you'll have issues
[06:07] <dover> lol
[06:07] <Gemmers> Hey I'm not against ubuntu in any kind, hence I wouldn't be downloading it and trying to install it right now
[06:07] <CrazyPhil_> Adman1965, most Nvidia card support this resolution, back to geforce 2-3. Ati you need a pretty recent one
[06:07] <ASTX813> Anyone had experience connecting a Palm via Bluetooth?
[06:07] <nickrud> neopsyche: http://pastebin.ca/897085 weren't these yours?
[06:07] <Frogzoo> Dr_willis: aight thx
[06:07] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> does anyone know of a command line option for xawtv that allows one to set a camera's format (NTSC or PAL)
[06:07] <pajamian> dover: it usually is, but if you have bad hardware all bets are off.
[06:07] <Genius16> leprasmurf: lol. yeah i mean if you're running linux you shouldnt need to run any scan for a typical user.
[06:07] <squidly> ASTX813: bluetooth is a pain imho. but nice once you get it running ;)
[06:08] <RyanPrior> !anyone | ASTX813
[06:08] <ubotu> ASTX813: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:08] <mkbernard> well what if i dont want it to be public per se, but just have the user account owned only by the samba process
[06:08] <Adman1965> Cool.  Thanks.
[06:08] <ASTX813> Pain, indeed
[06:08] <pajamian> dover: what hardware do you have in your system?
[06:08] <Genius16> metal and silicon!
[06:08] <mjw-> dover you didn't stick in an old XT hard disk controller for the heck of it did you? ;)
[06:08] <dover> mobo's a p4p800
[06:08] <squidly> ok ive gotta run everyone
[06:08] <squidly> talk to you all later good luck and have a nice weekend
[06:08] <neopsyche> seacat: are uncommented except for backports
[06:08] <Gemmers> I need to upgrade my notebook ram first
[06:08] <Gemmers> And also there's a slot that looks like it's ram but I don't think it is
[06:08] <Roy> I kept the default settings Gemmers and it worked like a charm.
[06:08] <neopsyche> nickrud: not sure.. i cant see them
[06:08] <seacat> neopsyche,   sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2  kdelibs4c2a
[06:08] <leprasmurf> Genius16: understood, but my system is kinda suffering from to many improper shutdowns.  it keeps hanging on shutdown due to a bug in the wireless
[06:08] <dover> XT hardisk controller?
[06:08] <pajamian> dover: that's old, ubuntu can certainly run on it, but older hardware like that is more likely to have problems.
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Whenever i copy styff over samba to my linux box. from the vista machine.. the network gets SOO slow/clogged that xming is Useless... odd.
[06:08] <nickrud> neopsyche: strange, I simply copied and pasted what you posted
[06:08] <neopsyche> nickrud: i need to install klava.. how is installing that 94+mb file going to help?
[06:09] <Gemmers> Perhaps it's VGA ram, but I don't think so
[06:09] <mjw-> dover just kidding...
[06:09] <Genius16> leprasmurf: an automated scan wouldnt fix that.
[06:09] <neopsyche> *kalva
[06:09] <nickrud> neopsyche: you need to have the right libraries and headers to compile with
[06:09] <leprasmurf> Genius16: earlier tonight I was experiencing major weirdness with connectivity and such, which prompted me to try some maintenance
[06:09] <neopsyche> nickrud: where?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  still dident try that deb i built eh? :)
[06:09] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: you built a deb?
[06:09] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: where?!
[06:09] <ASTX813> Well I've made no progress beyond getting the Palm listed as a trusted device in the bluetooth applet
[06:09] <_Oz_> what's the trick for creating a multisided cube in compiz-fusion?  I can only get one "pane"
[06:09] <Genius16> leprasmurf: network weirdness? i love the internets and stuff. what was happeneing? this is wireless i take it?
[06:09] <leprasmurf> Genius16: so I don't have to worry about random corruptions, or anything outside of the journal that might not be checked?
[06:09] <Gemmers> It's sort of like a RAM slot but not, perhaps it's for wireless
[06:09] <pajamian> dover: did you run the test from the boot menu to make sure the install CD is not corrupted?
[06:10] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: is that the .deb from the file share?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  ive sent you 2 different fileshare and some other site links to the deb packages over the last hour.
[06:10] <nickrud> neopsyche: oh, seacat pasted for you, sorry
[06:10] <neopsyche> oh
[06:10] <dover> yeah
[06:10] <Peddy> squidly: are you still there? I restarted x
[06:10] <dover> i also checked the disc
[06:10] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  the last one was not a fileshare. it was some other place. :)
[06:10] <leprasmurf> Genius16: yeah, wireless.  I used to think it was 'cause of wpa_supplicant, but I disabled wpa on my home wifi and it still happens
[06:10] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: i thought that was the original deb i downloaded earlier from another source
[06:10] <squidly> Peddy: yea for a sec
[06:10] <pajamian> dover: how old is the cd rom drive on the box you're installing onto?
[06:10] <squidly> did that fix it for you?
[06:10] <Genius16> leprasmurf: id say if you're having a problem with the inner-nut-webs its not going to effect your system as a whole.
[06:10] <Peddy> nope
[06:10] <dover> hmm.....maybe 2 years
[06:10] <squidly> Peddy: hmm..
[06:10] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  why would i send you that one. :P
[06:11] <neopsyche> Dr_Willis: is this yoru new deb? .. http://www.load.to/?d=2FDgvRKuti
[06:11] <pajamian> dover: not too bad, how old is the motherboard/cpu (the p4/800?)
[06:11] <leprasmurf> Genius16: whenever I connect to my home wireless, and subsequently try to shutdown my computer, the shutdown scripts start to run, but hang with some error I have written down somewhere
[06:11] <Peddy> squidly: I set it in displayconfig-gtk, it appears to be working, but when I open the program again its still 50
[06:11] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  looks like it.
[06:11] <Genius16> leprasmurf: what problem are you having? what are the symptoms? also what wifi card do you have?
[06:11] <dover> id say thats about.....4-5 years
[06:11] <leprasmurf> Genius16: and the only way to fully shutdown at that point is to do a hard shutdown
[06:11] <Peddy> squidly: for some reason there is no profile that loads? does this happen for you?
[06:11] <pajamian> dover: ok, well, how much RAM do you have?
[06:11] <Genius16> leprasmurf: message me the error message?
[06:12] <FY1> what is the default root password? I've never had to SU until now, and I don't remember setting one when I installed ubuntu
[06:12] <leprasmurf> Genius16: hang on, gotta find it
[06:12] <dover> 1g
[06:12] <Genius16> leprasmurf:  or spit it out here whatevers.
[06:12] <squidly> Peddy: nope.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> FY1,  there is none.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> !root | FY1
[06:12] <ubotu> FY1: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:12] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: after clicking download .. it takes me to a page to uplaod..
[06:12] <pajamian> dover: that should be plenty, hrmmm ....
[06:12] <Peddy> squidly: ok
[06:12] <dover> yeah...i know lol
[06:12] <FY1> that's gay
[06:12] <FY1> :-p
[06:12] <FY1> oh well
[06:12] <FY1> thanks
[06:12] <pajamian> dover: what about the power supply?  how old is that?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> FY1,  no its not.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:12] <FY1> Maybe some people like the power of SU
[06:12] <jesenko> i'm sorry complete noob with IRQ  here just have one question if i have any problems is this the place to come to find out the answer
[06:13] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: can you put it on a public ftp?
[06:13] <Genius16> su > sudo
[06:13] <dover> hmmm...i think its as old as the mobo, if not it would be a bit less
[06:13] <FY1> don't assume everyone is linux newbie
[06:13] <Peddy> squidly: do you have any idea what might be happening?
[06:13] <mjw-> !justask | jesenko
[06:13] <ubotu> jesenko: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily).    This is linux.
[06:13] <squidly> Peddy: not off the top of my head. and I'm sorry I wont be around i've gotta run to my gf's
[06:13] <Peddy> squidly: ok have fun ^^
[06:13] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  the download worked for me. I just waited the 4 sec. and clicked on download. :0
[06:13] <dover> prob a bit less, im pretty sure i switched cases after i had already built this system
[06:14] <squidly> Peddy: sorry.
[06:14] <Peddy> can someone please help me to set my screen refresh rate?
[06:14] <Peddy> squidly: np
[06:14] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: doesnt want to work fo rme
[06:14] <nickrud> FY1: or, you haven't heard of sudo -i
[06:14] <Peddy> squidly: thanks for helping so far :0
[06:14] <pajamian> dover: well, everything seems to be fine in the specs you're giving me, but it is always possible that something is failing and you don't know about it.
[06:14] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: could you email it?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  you got bigger issues then. :)
[06:14] <Genius16> squidly: whats the 411 on his refresh prob?
[06:14] <squidly> Peddy: but fyi the nvidia drivers do set automaticaly for the screen resolution you have
[06:14] <Peddy> squidly: even if displayconfig-gtk doesn't think so?
[06:14] <squidly> Genius16: its running at 50hz running the nvidia drivers.. and he wants to push it up
[06:15] <jesenko> did anyone get this wireless card working or do they have a way to fix it the forums don't have nothing that work my lsusb display is this: Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[06:15] <dover> could it be something as stupid as having 2 soundcards and 2 lan cards or somethinng like that?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  try that dcc send.
[06:15] <dover> my onboard lan stopped working a few months ago so i bought a seperate lan card
[06:15] <mjw-> ugh, 50Hz refresh, now there's ripe slice of hell for you.
[06:15] <squidly> Peddy: my drivers do change when I change resoltuion automagickly
[06:15] <neopsyche> dcc send
[06:15] <Roy> I have the same issue, I have the nVidia chip and I want my refresh rate from 50 hz to 60 hz
[06:15] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: dcc send?
[06:15] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: im using chatzilla.. cant see dcc
[06:15] <Peddy> squidly: what do you mean your drivers change?
[06:16] <hotmonkeyluv> is there a recommended utility/program that can cycle through a folder of pictures and make them the desktop?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  you may want to start using xchat
[06:16] <pajamian> dover: if your onboard lan has failed then it is not unreasonable to assume that something else on your motherboard may be failing as well.
[06:16] <pajamian> dover: however...
[06:16] <dover> yeah
[06:16] <squidly> when I change resoltuions or an applicaion chagnes my resolution the refresh rate gets reset for me
[06:16] <neopsyche_> Dr_willis: please dcc now
[06:16] <pajamian> dover: did you properly disable the onboard lan in the CMOS setup or did you just leave it and toss another card in?
[06:16] <Peddy> squidly: oic resolution
[06:16] <dover> still dont understand how windows NEVER gives me problems, but i install ubuntu and it just wont install
[06:17] <Peddy> squidly: but refresh rates are different :P
[06:17] <squidly> you could try chagne the line HorixSync to 60
[06:17] <neopsyche_> Dr_willis: im in xchat now
[06:17] <squidly> Peddy: yes
[06:17] <neopsyche_> Dr_willis: can you send the file now/
[06:17] <neopsyche_> ?
[06:17] <jesenko>  did anyone get this wireless card working or do they have a way to fix it the forums don't have nothing that work my lsusb display is this: Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[06:17] <squidly> like right now i'm at 1440x900 and 70hz
[06:17] <Ashfire908> what is a good samba admin tool?
[06:17] <CrazyPhil_> squidly> I have experience low refresh rate problem in the past. It was cause by a bad recognition of my screen specifications (horizontal and vertical HZ) in the xorg.conf file.
[06:17] <mjw-> jesenko you might want to try searching the ubuntu forums for the specific make and model of your usb wireless card. speaking from experience support for realtek usb wireless is tricky right now
[06:17] <dover> i should go check ou my cmos i guess
[06:17] <dover> make sure its disabled
[06:17] <Peddy> squidly: lcd monitor?
[06:17] <squidly> CrazyPhil_: or the edi from the monitor
[06:17] <squidly> Peddy: yes
[06:18] <dover> cause if ubuntu is trying to install driver for something that doesnt work...
[06:18] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: can you send file to my other id?
[06:18] <Peddy> squidly: what drivers are you using? nv or nvidia or what?
[06:18] <jesenko> mjw i tried mo luck nobody got it working there and one person that has it didn't work
[06:18] <pajamian> dover: yes, make sure it is properly disabled, also I would remove the 2nd sound card just to be safe (you can always try adding it back in later)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> i dont even know if i can send. :)  been years since i tried.
[06:18] <squidly> the nvidia drivers
[06:18] <mjw-> dover or it might be trying to poke the lan controller or enable it and it's hanging the system
[06:18] <squidly> I dont like the nv drivers..
[06:18] <dover> well one is onboard and the other one is a seperate sound blaster
[06:18] <angel> hey all, my cd/dvd drive isnt mounting properly can anyone give me a hand?
[06:18] <Peddy> squidly: I'm gonna try set the res in the nvidia utility
[06:18] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  could try  http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=457460
[06:19] <squidly> Peddy: that usualy works well
[06:19] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  i found 15 other file-shareing sites. :)
[06:19] <Peddy> squidly: refresh*
[06:19] <squidly> Peddy: yes
[06:19] <dover> well, ill probably see you all soon again lol, ill go check my cmos and try to install again after
[06:19] <dover> thx
[06:19] <pajamian> dover: well either disable the onboard in the cmos or remove the soundblaster.  Like I said, you cna always put it back later, but you want to try to eliminate problems now to see what is really causing it.
[06:19] <Peddy> squidly: isn't the refresh rate meant to depend on the monitor, not the gfx card?
[06:19] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: thanks.. is downloading?
[06:19] <neopsyche> *
[06:19] <neopsyche> thanks
[06:19] <squidly> Peddy: its dependent on both.
[06:19] <neopsyche> Dr_willis: it is downloading ;-)
[06:19] <neopsyche> !
[06:19] <biouser> do you guys have any favorite word-procs for mathematical typesetting ie Latex-helper wysiwyg-ish
[06:19] <FloodBot3> neopsyche: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <squidly> but your card can do much faster then 50hz
[06:19] <_Oz_> man
[06:20] <_Oz_> I just found automatix
[06:20] <neopsyche> noted.. no flooding
[06:20] <_Oz_> what a fantastic app
[06:20] <Peddy> squidly: wow nvidia-settings isn't even loading ...
[06:20] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  its best to NOT use that.. forget you ever saw it
[06:20] <neopsyche> FloodBot3: accidental
[06:20] <adub> how do i setup a pptp connection i dont want to setup a vpn server i want to connect to one
[06:20] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  its not really needed any more.. and it never really was needed.
[06:20] <squidly> Peddy: whats happeneing when it trys to load?
[06:20] <rebecca2930> hey guys is ubuntu based on snapshots of testing or unstable debian?
[06:20] <Peddy> squidly: nothing and in terminal nothing either
[06:20] <_Oz_> dr_willis: heh, it says in the FAQ that people on #ubuntu would advise against it.  :)
[06:20] <biouser> _Oz_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:20] <lnknpk04> hey folks, my gutsy desktop wont boot.  just sits at a blank screen with a cursor.  I can boot into live cd and even did a grub reinstall to doublecheck that it wasn't grub.  any other ideas?
[06:21] <squidly> Peddy: that is odd.
[06:21] <_Oz_> why are you opposed to it?
[06:21] <marx2k_> Damnit, the Flash install script keeps uninstalliung itself with every aptitude update I do
[06:21] <pajamian> _Oz_: it can cause problems down the road.  Besides you really don't need it for anything.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  yep..  it has been known to totally trash systems befor.   And you dont want to get started on the 'personal conflicts' of the maker. and  his 'critics;
[06:21] <marx2k_> I have to keep reinstalling it
[06:21] <marx2k_> pissing me off...
[06:21] <Peddy> squidly: yeah
[06:21] <rebecca2930> lnknpk04, how many hard drives do u have?
[06:21] <_Oz_> oh well.  I already ran it.
[06:21] <_Oz_> it seems fine though.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  lets just say that it really dosent do anything that just setting up the medibuntu repo dosent allready do
[06:21] <squidly> Peddy: try reinstalling the drivers they may have not installed right
[06:21] <roddersg> hey guys anyone have problems with WINE?   A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[06:22] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  and your system fails to load/work/boot/start x.
[06:22] <angel> hey all, my cd/dvd drive isnt mounting properly can anyone give me a hand?
[06:22] <jesenko> marx search ubuntu forum i had same problem i don't have link but the the forum advice helped i don't have a problem anymore
[06:22] <Peddy> squidly: wow it *just* finished loading
[06:22] <Peddy> squidly: how messed up is that :P
[06:22] <squidly> Peddy: not really messed up
[06:22] <marx2k_> I shall do this.. I will see what happens
[06:22] <pajamian> !automatix | _Oz_
[06:22] <ubotu> _Oz_: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[06:22] <rebecca2930> lnknpk04, do u have any other operating systems on your computer?
[06:22] <roddersg> angel - what's happening
[06:22] <squidly> it can be nasty to load at times
[06:22] <biouser> LATEX-helper favorites?
[06:22] <lnknpk04> rebecca2930, no i do not
[06:22] <Peddy> squidly: lol
[06:23] <Peddy> squidly: my system is fast
[06:23] <_Oz_> willis: thanks for the tips.  I am just playing around with compiz stuff on that computer.  so if it all goes to hell, no big deal.
[06:23] <zelrikriando> LaTeX rulz
[06:23] <Peddy> squidly: usually :P
[06:23] <rebecca2930> lnknpk04, may i pm u?
[06:23] <lnknpk04> sure
[06:23] <angel> roddersg, well, my CD/dvd just isnt mounting, gives me an error message if i try to open from "computer"
[06:23] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  and with automatix.. its just a matter of time. :)
[06:23] <squidly> Peddy: I've got dual opterons 248's.. and sometimes the nvidia-setting take up to 20 seconds to load
[06:23] <_Oz_> PC Magazine wrote an article in which automatix's virtues were extolled.
[06:23] <roddersg> angel - what's the message?
[06:23] <Peddy> squidly: one-upped :D
[06:23] <angel> roddersg, "[mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[06:23] <angel> mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist"
[06:24] <pajamian> _Oz_: yep, and pc-mag is all knowing.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  i saw pc magazine refer to OS-X as "Free Bsd Linux" - their 'IQ' is in question. :)
[06:24] <biouser> word processor for mathematics?
[06:24] <biouser> anyone?
[06:24] <Peddy> squidly: 20 seconds is nothing mate
[06:24] <roddersg> check your /etc/fstab file, maybe you are missing something there
[06:24] <Peddy> squidly: 3 minutes
[06:24] <roddersg> can you copy and print out the line here?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> _Oz_, of course they also dident mention the legality of the thing.. or the security implications.. :)
[06:24] <angel> roddersg, how?
[06:24] <neopsyche> Dr_Willis!
[06:25] <neopsyche> YOU Uber !
[06:25] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,   NOW go read some bash tutorials! and learn the fundamentals!
[06:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:25] <roddersg> angel: use "less /etc/fstab" and look for the line that shows the cdrom e.g.
[06:25] <_Oz_> so what's the replacement for it that's built into ubuntu?
[06:25] <neopsyche> Well done to Dr Willis for providing the ONLY working .deb for Kalva ON UBUNTU GUTSY!
[06:25] <neopsyche> WOOOHOO
[06:25] <roddersg> angle: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660     user,noauto     0       0
[06:25] <lnknpk04> rebecca2930, thanks for offering your help.  I've pm'ed you already
[06:25] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  you enable the medibuntu repo. and just apt-get install the stuff same as you would any other normal package. no script needed
[06:25] <adub> does anyone know how to connect to a vpn server through linux??
[06:25] <angel> roddersg, well that might explain a few things
[06:25] <pajamian> !medibuntu | _Oz_
[06:25] <ubotu> _Oz_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[06:26] <angel> roddersg, etc/fstab: No such file or directory
[06:26] <seacat> neopsyche,  Did you do,   apt-get update    after uncommenting those repos?
[06:26] <roddersg> anyone have problems with WINE frezine
[06:26] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  the operative word is 'legal reasons' :) for all this song and dance.
[06:26] <roddersg> anglel, you must look for the /etc/fstab,  missing first "/"
[06:26] <seacat> Dr_willis,   Isn't the command    apt-get update   ?
[06:26] <_Oz_> ahh
[06:26] <neopsyche> seacat: no
[06:26] <neopsyche> seacat: I dont think so
[06:26] <Peddy> squidly: ok it just finished loading, the settings haven't stuck :(
[06:26] <seacat> neopsyche,  do it now.
[06:27] <rebecca2930> lnknpk04, did u try grub-install command or something like that?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> seacat,    sudo apt-get install whatever
[06:27] <seacat> neopsyche,   sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2  kdelibs4c2a
[06:27] <angel> roddersg, "/dev/cdrom        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:27] <angel> /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[06:27] <angel> "
[06:27] <Dr_willis> update, then upgrade, or install.
[06:27] <biouser> no one has a pet mathematical type-setting program?
[06:27] <lnknpk04> rebecca2930, no, i did the grub command, root (hd0,0), and then setup (hd0)
[06:27] <roddersg> angel - your second line /dev/ for the floppy is wrong
[06:28] <roddersg> that's the cause of your error
[06:28] <toker> can any one tell me what tool I need to use to add a user to the system?
[06:28] <orphean> biouser, latex :)
[06:28] <lnknpk04> rebecca2930, then i restarted with the same result
[06:28] <angel> roddersg, ok, how do i fix it
[06:28] <neopsyche> seacat: its ok.. Dr_willis made a .deb for me
[06:28] <Jewsus_> How do I uninstall Ubuntu Studio?
[06:28] <winter-mute> hi, I am trying to play dvds, but I get a52 CRC errors. I have installed the restricted pacakgeset as well.
[06:28] <rebecca2930> lnknpk04, did u first do is open grub and do find /grub/boot/stage1??
[06:28] <Dr_willis> toker,  i normally just do 'sudo adduser bgates' or whatever. :)
[06:28] <roddersg> angel: hmmm, use /dev/fd0 for the flopy
[06:28] <winter-mute> anyone knows how to fix CRC errors?
[06:28] <pajamian> toker: sudo useradd newusername
[06:28] <lnknpk04> rebecca2930, yes i did, i apologize, i didn't type out that step for you
[06:28] <toker> Dr_willis, Thanks I will give it a shot :)
[06:28] <angel> roddersg, so i need to edit that file?
[06:28] <roddersg> you might need to use sudo vi /etc/fstab
[06:28] <lnknpk04> rebecca2930, thats how i confirmed my boot was hd0,0
[06:28] <toker> Mandriva has a nice GUI for that :)
[06:28] <roddersg> yes you do
[06:29] <Dr_willis> I wonder how adduser differes from useradd
[06:29] <winter-mute> really annoying
[06:29] <Dr_willis> toker,   theres a gui somewhere inubuntu.. but i can type the command faster then i can find the menu item
[06:29] <roddersg> after that, try mounting your cdrom again
[06:29] <seacat> neopsyche, Ok, good.
[06:29] <neopsyche> Dr_WIllis: some of the tabs seem to be mission
[06:29] <neopsyche> *missing
[06:29] <neopsyche> seacat: hmm.. some of the tabs in kalva seem to be missing
[06:29] <Flannel> Dr_willis, toker, pajamian, adduser is friendlier, it uses useradd as a backend for some stuff, and adds sane defaults for a lot of the values
[06:29] <toker> Dr_willis, yes I know what you mean.. I can't find it anywhere.
[06:29] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  no idea. Could be some support files/stuff you need. it ran.. and i closed the app.. is all i did with it.
[06:29] <lanzelloth> hi guys, is it more useful to learn phyton or shell scripts?
[06:29] <neopsyche> i see ;-)
[06:30] <rebecca2930> lnknpk04, ive had issues where sometimes itll tell me hd1,0 etc but it may be hd0 or hd2 etc
[06:30] <roddersg> anyone know the command to restore the .Desktop folder?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Flannel,  heck - i rember a 'superadduser' under  some disrto. :)
[06:30] <toker> ok I added the user I think.. how do I check.. and how do I set thier password?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> toker,  sudo  passwd username
[06:30] <sayers> Hello I am having troubles lowering the brightness of the screen
[06:30] <Flannel> roddersg: .Desktop? ~/Desktop is your desktop, not ~/.Desktop
[06:30] <winter-mute> whoops :) css installed
[06:30] <angel> roddersg, still not letting me edit it.
[06:30] <seacat> neopsyche,  Dr_willis Were dependencies  kdelibs4c2  &  kdelibs4c2a  resolved?
[06:30] <lanzelloth> sayers: kubuntu?
[06:30] <sayers> lanzelloth: no
[06:31] <Dr_willis> seacat,  i proberly had them allready installed.. I got tons-o-stuff installed on this machine
[06:31] <rebecca2930> lnknpk04, so id try editing the menu.list
[06:31] <neopsyche> seacat: no
[06:31] <pajamian> sayers: sounds more like you need a monitor repair shop than #ubuntu
[06:31] <toker> ok Thanks for the help.. I guess I am gonna see if I can log in now with that account :)
[06:31] <lnknpk04> rebecca2930, have you encountered any problems of this kind after doing an update?  I have seen some threads suggesting this and this happened right after a required restart from an update
[06:31] <seacat> Dr_willis, Ok, very well.
[06:31] <neopsyche> seacat: so should i still try install them
[06:31] <neopsyche> ?
[06:31] <sayers> pajamian: no the monitor works fine, its that the function key on the laptop does not work
[06:31] <_Oz_> on one computer, I am installing medibuntu.  on the other, I have gone with automatix2.  I will compare.
[06:31] <lanzelloth> pajamian: sayers, i can lower my screen brightness in ubuntu but it doesn't work in kde
[06:31] <neopsyche> seacat: perhpas that will solve the problem of missing buttons
[06:31] <roddersg> Flannel correct, just modified xserver.xorg and need to restore it
[06:31] <seacat> neopsyche, Ask Dr_willis
[06:31] <neopsyche> ;-)
[06:32] <neopsyche> Thanks for you help seacat
[06:32] <seacat> neopsyche, I dono
[06:32] <roddersg> angel - you have to be root to edit the fstab
[06:32] <rebecca2930> lnknpk04, did u do setup (hd0) or something like setup (hd0,0)?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I compiled the program.. thats it. end of my   responsability
[06:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:32] <seacat> neopsyche, NP
[06:32] <dragon> join #winehq
[06:32] <angel> roddersg, yeah i have a sudo password.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I dont even have a tv tuner installed any more to test it out.
[06:32] <Genius16> roddersg: yeah. for cereals
[06:32] <lnknpk04> the setup command was 'setup(hd0)
[06:32] <nickrud> _Oz_: depending on what you install with automatix, you may or not have problems at upgrade to next release. That seems to be where the problems usually crop up.
[06:32] <pajamian> sayers: ahhh, ok, I'm sure there's an app for it, but I don't know myself.
[06:33] <roddersg> what cereals?
[06:33] <Terrasqu1> anyone have any experience with the hardy alpha? Is it usable in normal day to day use?
[06:33] <sayers> pajamian: is there a way to act like im using that key
[06:33] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  thers not to medibuntu to install. :)  You just set up the repository and install the extra packages you want.
[06:33] <rebecca2930> lnknpk04, if u did setup (hd0,0) not good it installs the bootloader in the partition and not the mbr
[06:33] <Dr_willis> not much to medibutnu to install.. i mean. :)
[06:33] <pajamian> sayers: sorry, I don't now.  I've not had to adjust the brightness on my laptop and normally use a desktop.
[06:33] <roddersg> angel - if you are on GUI then try typing "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" in a terminal window, you may need to enter your password
[06:33] <angel> thanks
[06:33]  * nickrud just uses the codecs and dvdcss, cherry pick debs without setting up a repo