[00:05] <Gilneral>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-47-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 8 x AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 1,40GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7,8GiB, 85,0% free ** Disk: Total: 772,4GiB, 6,4% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 9m 1s
[00:05] <Gilneral> **
[00:06] <hggdh> Gilneral: please disable this hardware announcement here
[00:07] <Gilneral> sorry, I pressed a wrong button
[00:08] <bjpenn> Ben64: what if the package was installed with a pinned version?
[00:08] <bjpenn> Ben64: if i installed a specific version of a package, thats not the most updated one, would it also update it?
[00:10] <bekks> bjpenn: if you pinned a version, it will not be updated.
[00:10] <bekks> bjpenn: thats what pinning is for.
[00:15] <tgm4883> How can I put an apparmor profile in complain mode if it doesn't have a path? Specifically, I see some libvirt VMs I'm trying to put into complain mode but it just lists the libvirt uid
[00:17] <tgm4883> nm, figured it out. You just list the full path to the profile
[00:18] <ubuntu-mate> hullo
[00:19] <lordcirth> ubuntu-mate, hi
[00:19] <ubuntu-mate> should change it to what I use on linuxmint
[00:21] <ralph22> Is there a support channel for ubuntu?
[00:22] <blue_cheese> am installing 16.10 ATM
[00:22] <lordcirth> ralph22, this is it
[00:25] <dStruct> lordcirth: I was able to do it, the CompizConfig Settings Manager's Window Placement plugin works perfectly
[00:25] <lordcirth> dStruct, nice
[00:26] <dStruct> lordcirth: now I can stare at 15 F'ing terminals lol, at some point I should probably buy some extra displays
[00:27] <ralph22> Thank you which ubuntu should i install on a mini computer it is a zotac zbox 83 with intel core i3 when the normal version keeps crashing?
[00:28] <lordcirth> ralph22, Xubuntu is nice and light.
[00:29] <ralph22> Thank you does it also support different drivers?
[00:31] <ralph22> Because i think the problem is with the hardware.
[00:32] <lordcirth> ralph22, all Ubuntu flavours use the same drivers. What is the problem?
[00:33] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[00:34] <ralph22> Other than the crashing the wifi does not work nor some of the ports.
[00:35] <lordcirth> Bray90820, run the disk's self-check
[00:35] <cimmm> Hey looking for a tip on guest Windows OS - Will I see much performance difference between 7 & 10 for Adobe CC?
[00:35] <lordcirth> ralph22, google your wifi adapter model + "ubuntu"
[00:35] <lordcirth> cimmm, I don't think that's an Ubuntu question
[00:35] <Bray90820> lordcirth:  Will do it will prob come up clean tho
[00:36] <cimmm> lordcirth: might you point me to a more VM-centric channel?
[00:36] <EPOi01> when i open terminal or any program else it turns to black screen , how could i fix it
[00:38] <EPOi01> when i open terminal or any program else it turns to black screen , how could i fix it
[00:39] <lordcirth> cimmm, sounds more like a question for ##windows
[00:39] <lordcirth> EPOi01, the program goes black or the whole screen?
[00:39] <ralph22> Thank you.
[00:40] <EPOi01> Lordcrith ,The program
[00:41] <promet> I have an sdcard that 'df -h' shows to be full (~128GB), but baobab reports at 11.6GB (what it should be)
[00:41] <cimmm> lordcirth: in relation to my hardware I know the answer, I'm curious about running as a VM client specifically
[00:41] <promet> does anyone have any idea how to have it detect correctly?
[00:44] <dStruct> EPOi01: and is there a little text prompt in the top left corner?
[00:47] <Ben64> promet: pastebin both "df -h" and "du -hd0 <the mountpoint>"
[00:47] <OzzieKlunk> Toronto60
[00:52] <promet> Ben64, Thanks! 'df -h' http://paste.ubuntu.com/23483301/  -- 'du -hdo /dev/sdd1' http://paste.ubuntu.com/23483305/
[00:53] <Ben64> /dev/sdd1 isn't the mountpoint
[00:53] <rexwin_> I am trying to run a scp job using cron and it doesnot run as specified scp -P 1926 /root/backup_etc_`date +%F`.tar.gz DB01-ASSIDUOUS+vv@${DB}:~/
[00:54] <rexwin_> what is wrong with my cronjob?
[00:54] <Ben64> put it in a script and run the script instead
[00:54] <rexwin_> testing.sh contains a single line scp -P 1926 /root/backup_etc_`date +%F`.tar.gz DB01-ASSIDUOUS+vv@${DB}:~/
[00:54] <rexwin_> so you want me to add the shebang line
[00:55] <promet> ben64, roger that, just a moment
[00:55] <rexwin_> running ./testing2.sh successfully scp's but not through cron job
[00:57] <wedgie> where's DB being set?
[00:57] <rexwin_> asking me?
[00:57] <wedgie> yes
[00:57] <rexwin_> DB01-ASSIDUOUS is the hostname of the windows machine running cygwin
[00:58] <rexwin_> running ./testing2.sh directly successfully scp's but not through cron job
[00:58] <rexwin_> testing2.sh contains a single line scp -P 1926 /root/backup_etc_`date +%F`.tar.gz DB01-ASSIDUOUS+vv@${DB}:~/
[00:58] <Ben64> you didn't answer the question
[00:58] <wedgie> right. So where's the variable "DB" being set? You use that as the hostname that you're SCPing to.
[00:59] <rexwin_> it is set in alias file
[01:00] <wedgie> that alias file probably isn't being read by the cron process
[01:00] <promet> Ben64, it dawns on me that this might not be useful? Due to its being encrypted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23483317/
[01:00] <rexwin_> how to make it read, wedgie?
[01:00] <wedgie> so either source it directly from in your script, or set the server name explicitly
[01:00] <rexwin_> use source before the command in the one line script
[01:00] <kkerwin> Hi all. I am running Ubuntu 16.10, and am unable to connect via WiFi on my Broadcom 43142. Can I get any help?
[01:01] <wedgie> . /path/to/aliasfile
[01:01] <cfhowlett>  !broadcom | kkerwin
[01:01] <cfhowlett> !broadcom | kkerwin
[01:02] <Ben64> promet: idk about encrypted stuff
[01:02] <wescotte> Any grub gurus around? I'm trying to dual boot Windows 10/Ubuntu and running into problems. It's an UEFI/EFI machine... Grub was failing to install but I was able to use boot-repair to install it. However, I had no grub.cfg... I booted via prompt and got into Ubuntu and ran update-grub and produced a grub.cfg that seemed to detect my Windows 10. Copied that grub.cfg into my efi/ubuntu folder and now i get a boot menu. H
[01:02] <wescotte> owever, the only one that works is Ubuntu.
[01:02] <kkerwin> !broadcom
[01:02] <wescotte> "Windows EUFI bkpbootmgfw.ef"  produces a "error: premature end of file (hd1, gpt1)
[01:02] <cfhowlett> kkerwin, there used to be a bot but it might be sleeping.  let me find the ink
[01:02] <kkerwin> Blah, not seeing message ... ya
[01:02] <wescotte> "Windwos Boot Manager (on /dev/sda1)" same error but /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[01:02] <kkerwin> Thanks, guys
[01:03] <Bashing-om> !bcm
[01:03] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, wait, what? bmc?  that's ... less than intuitive          :)
[01:04] <XenophonF> kkerwin: you're going to have to connect a wired interface and download some additional firmware/drivers for the wifi interface, with specific instructions located at the URL referenced by our esteemed colleagues above
[01:05] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Our bot often leave me thoughtles :)
[01:07] <Bashing-om> kkerwin: One quick and dowm for bcm that might be productive: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343228 (Hadaka) .
[01:07] <promet> Ben64, thanks very much for your time though. Could give me a notion of what that command might report "normally"? might give me a clue...
[01:12] <breezy_> whenever there is a window that is popped out, i am trying to go to "file" but the only way i can get it is to maximize the window.... is there anyway to do it so i dont have to maximize the window every single time i want to go to "file"
[01:14] <wedgie> breezy_: maximized or not, the file menu should be available in the top left of the screen (assuming unity)
[01:15] <breezy_> oh i figured it out.
[01:15] <breezy_> just gotta go to settings... it wasnt on mouse hover
[01:18] <Bray90820> lordcirth: It shows now errors when I check the USB
[01:23] <karlw> exit
[01:23] <karlw> :quit
[01:29] <Saklovich> Are kernel updates generally only recommended if there a problem on your system you're trying to fix?
[01:29] <Ben64> no, you should update often
[01:30] <cfhowlett> Saklovich, is there some reason to avoid updating?
[01:30] <Saklovich> cfhowlett: fear of breaking my system, I need it for work
[01:30] <Saklovich> Having to reinstall would be a huge setback
[01:31] <cfhowlett> Saklovich, ?  reinstall?  at worst, reboot to the previous kernel.
[01:32] <Saklovich> cfhowlett: I am currently on 4.6.2, you would recommend upgrading to the latest stable release 4.8.8?
[01:34] <cfhowlett> Saklovich, to the extent that my use case/experience is relevant to yours, yes.  FWIW, I have been running LTS only since 12.04, I do full-upgrade daily and have yet to experience a kernel breakage.
[01:34] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[01:35] <Saklovich> cfhowlett: thank you
[01:35] <TheMarius> still no unity 8 ... 7.5 is default
[01:35] <TheMarius> unity 8 as "beta alt. login"
[01:35] <cfhowlett> happy2help! Saklovich
[01:35] <TheMarius> im sticking with mint 18
[02:05] <Guy1524_> hey guys, I forgot, what is the name of the program that boots up in a live usb and installs ubuntu for you?
[02:06] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, startupdiskcreator
[02:06] <Guy1524_> no the program that boots from the live usb to install ubuntu for you
[02:06] <cfhowlett> ... installer?
[02:06] <Guy1524_> (takes your through configuration like timezone, partitions, keyboard layout, etc.)
[02:06] <Guy1524_> no I remember there being a specific name
[02:07] <Guy1524_> I want to port it to windows
[02:09] <Guy1524_> do you atleast know where I could find the source for it?
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Please don't tell me you mean Wubi...
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> !wubi
[02:09] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, start the ubuntu usb in "try ubuntu" mode, right click on the "install ubuntu" program and read the properties.  and no GOD NO not wubi.
[02:09] <hopeshare> I'm trying to upload php files to the server of ubuntu, I have closed the ports of ftp, I think I have to use only git to upload the files to the server
[02:10] <hopeshare> I have created ssh + key and I access the server using putty
[02:12] <Guy1524_> cfhowlett: what is wrong w/ wubi?
[02:13] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, dead, unsupported for years, and WILL! break ubuntu 12.04 +
[02:13] <Guy1524_> im not using it, Im trying to create something similar to it
[02:13] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, good luck with that
[02:13] <Guy1524_> thx
[02:13] <wedgie> hopeshare: ... so what's the question?
[02:14] <hopeshare> wedgie, I have some problem in uploading my files
[02:14] <Guy1524_> where can I find a list of all installed programs on a filesystem
[02:14] <hopeshare> thanks for the respons
[02:14] <hopeshare> response
[02:14] <Guy1524_> atleast all installed through apt
[02:14] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, dpkg -l
[02:14] <Guy1524_> no off a filesystem
[02:14] <hopeshare> I don't know how to do that
[02:14] <wedgie> Guy1524_: chroot to it first?
[02:15] <Guy1524_> k
[02:15] <wedgie> hopeshare: sounds like you want scp or sftp.
[02:15] <hopeshare> wedgie, I now access my server using ssh + key
[02:16] <hopeshare> but I only can write command
[02:16] <hopeshare> I want a way to send files from my machine to the server
[02:16] <Guy1524_> that worked thanks
[02:16] <wedgie> hopeshare: you want winscp or filezilla. Google "sftp client" and you'll find a few
[02:16] <srt3ch> hola
[02:16] <wedgie> hopeshare: it's like FTP, except that it is secure and runs over SSH
[02:17] <Guy1524_> found it!
[02:17] <Guy1524_> its called ubiquity
[02:18] <Guy1524_> now im thinking, could I run ubiquity on the windows 10 ubuntu interface
[02:18] <Guy1524_> if so, that would be hilarious imo
[02:20] <absurdist> why udevadm creates nic entries with the same mac adress after reboot?
[02:20] <absurdist> thats garbage
[02:21] <absurdist> 70 persistent rules after reboot two entries with the same mac
[02:21] <JohnMcClain> I've been using LatexRender to write math equations. The quality isn't good enough (a bit fuzzy). Is there anything mainstream I could use to create Latex PNGs?
[02:23] <hopeshare> wedgie, I have installed the google sftp client and I tried to connect and it's saying that connection closed
[02:24] <wedgie> hopeshare: it uses the same credentials as your ssh login
[02:24] <hopeshare> I should select the ssh and add key
[02:24] <wedgie> yes
[02:37] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, to each his own.  for my use, ubuntu = main OS and I have win7 in a virtualbox for RARE occasions when I need it.
[02:38] <JohnMcClain> pgf is a good way to start?
[02:38] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm having difficulty connecting my BCM43124 to WiFi  (broadcom). I have rebuilt bcmwl-kernel-source with no luck. Can I get some help?
[02:39] <TheMarius> how are ubuntu for toutch screens? have a surface pro 3
[02:39] <cfhowlett> !touch | TheMarius
[02:40] <TheMarius> nice yes but have anyone here tested it on a similar device?
[02:40] <TheMarius> so its not in beta stage
[02:40] <wedgie> JohnMcClain: #latex may be a good place to ask about that
[02:40] <cfhowlett> TheMarius, see the note about #ubuntu-touch = ask in that channel.
[02:40] <TheMarius> nice tanx
[02:41] <JohnMcClain> wedgie: thanks!
[02:51] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm having difficulty connecting my BCM43124 to WiFi  (broadcom). I have already followed ubottu's instructions on the topic, and I rebuilt bcmwl-kernel-source with no luck. Is there anyone available available to help, please?
[02:54] <ubuntu-mate> hi. If i download package with nvidia driver through synaptic, can i, while offline install driver with GUI "additional drivers"?
[02:54] <icedwater> Hold on, kkerwin, sounds like a niche thing you might have to wait a while for.
[02:55] <icedwater> ubuntu-mate: I don't think I fully understand your question, but I guess not. Can't remember how much of those additional drivers you need to fetch online.
[02:57] <kkerwin> icedwater: Sounds about right. I tried seeing if there is a #broadcom channel, but can't find one.
 I think, if i place already downloaded driver in right place, it will have it in "cache".
[02:59] <JohnMcClain> If anyone cares, the keyword I was looking for is 'tex2png'
[03:00] <kkerwin> ubuntu-mate: was that for me?
[03:00] <icedwater> JohnMcClain: did it work well for you?
[03:00] <kenrin> kkerwin: did you try any of the other drivers?
 no, i think.
[03:01] <kkerwin> kenrin: No. Bcmwl-kernel-source was working until last night.
[03:02] <icedwater> ubuntu-mate: I don't think so, unless you know which drivers you have to install. Did you already download them before?
[03:02] <kenrin> Ah,  never used that one.  Had good luck with the firmware-b43-installer package though
[03:02] <JohnMcClain> icedwater: It seems to be what I needed. Not meaning to sound rude, just hoping if anyone ever searches their logs for it, they find it.
[03:03] <icedwater> JohnMcClain: yep, I know. IRC is like that. :)
[03:03] <kkerwin> I had a series of hard reboots trying to fix a filesystem problem. I hit the end button the toggles WiFi on/off on key board several times trying to access the BIOSn
[03:04] <kkerwin> Unfortunately, hitting the button now doesn't toggle it again
 i will: ( ubuntu-drivers devices | grep recommended ), download it package only, not install throught synaptic, backup it. And if i will ofline i will place backup in place, where program "additional drivers" hold it.
[03:10] <cfhowlett> kkerwin, my Dell had ctrl-f2 as the wifi trigger in windows.  However, this trigger did not function in buntu.  After years of rebooting to fix accidental triggers, I discovered that alt-f2 worked under buntu.  try the combos
[03:11] <kkerwin> cfhowlette: Thanks for the lead
[03:11] <cfhowlett> happy2help! kkerwin
 i see that Additional Drivers download it to place: /var/cache/apt/archives. So i think i can do it offline later!
[03:13] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[03:13] <Bray90820> I also tested the disc and no error were found
[03:16] <siva_machina> apperantly ttf-mscorefonts-installer has trouble installing. At least on 16.04
 try to check iso, rewrite disc and check it? how old your PC?
[03:27] <Bray90820> It's a surface 3 tablet
[03:27] <kkerwin> Looks like cfhowlett placed out. Alright. Tried all combinations of ctrl, alt, shift and F1-12. Looking for another lead to solve my Broadcom problem.
[03:29] <jon5000> hi. newly installed ubuntu 16.04 on a lenovo yoga 13.  Not recognizing the touchscreen in xinput.  anyone help?
[03:29] <jon5000> touchscreen not working *and* not showing up in xinput
[03:31] <icedwater> kkerwin: that's two problems, right, one with the wifi button and another with the kernel module?
[03:34] <kkerwin> Icedwater: I'm leaning onward. if I button a this int.  Used a kubuntu rescue disc last night during didn't have WiFi of it either
[03:35] <kkerwin> Damn auto correct. Leaning toward button problem.
[03:37] <icedwater> Hmm, OK
[03:39] <kostkon> kkerwin, is it hardware blocked?
[03:40] <kkerwin> How to tell? kostkon
[03:40] <kostkon> kkerwin, rfkill list
[03:42] <kkerwin> Confirmed. Hardware blocked. How to fix?
[03:42] <kostkon> kkerwin, try     rfkill unblock all
[03:42] <donofrio> how do I fix my system, I tried to update-pepperflash on 16.04 but I get this tinyurl.com/h57ahu5 dpkg error?
[03:43] <kkerwin> kostkon: still blocked
[03:44] <kostkon> kkerwin, try with sudo as well you never know
[03:44] <kkerwin> Yep. Still blocked with sudo
[03:46] <kostkon> kkerwin, what's your laptop
[03:47] <kkerwin> kostkon: Toshiba C55-C5240.
[03:48] <kkerwin> And yes, "C" in a Toshiba model number so far crappy.
[03:48] <kkerwin> Is for ***
[03:49] <lordcirth> donofrio, says on that page, it's a bug, fix is in progress
[03:50] <kostkon> kkerwin, looking at your laptop's keyboard what about FN+F12?  http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTA4WDEyODg=/z/JEEAAOSw6n5Xs2N0/$_57.JPG?set_id=8800005007
[03:52] <kkerwin> kostkon: Nope. Tried it again. The Fn key makes it F12 and not WiFi toggle
[03:52] <donofrio> lordcirth, im 32 bit
[03:53] <kostkon> kkerwin, and pressing F12 doesn't do anything either
[03:54] <kkerwin> kostkon: correct
[03:54] <lordcirth> kostkon, is the Fn key broken?
[03:54] <kkerwin> lordcirth: Just tested. Fn key is working
[03:56] <donofrio> lordcirth, my setup is apaste.info/BdQgp
[03:57] <kostkon> kkerwin, are you dual booting?
[03:57] <lordcirth> donofrio, sorry, no idea
[03:57] <hanasaki> anyone have a spamassassin config file I can use?
[03:58] <kkerwin> kostkon: nope
[04:01] <kkerwin> Kostkon: I found a diagnostic script. Stand by
[04:05] <kkerwin> kostkon: And the script is too buggy to run
[04:06] <Guy1524_> why do the ubuntu developers want everything to be a snap and move away from apt/dpkg?
[04:06] <Guy1524_> aren't some programs more suited to the old style?
[04:06] <Guy1524_> also, wouldn't running everything in a snap slow the computer down significantly
[04:08] <Guy1524_> I mean, the way I see it, they having a fast, but somewhat unsecure OS, and instead of just making it more secure, they run everything in a container
[04:11] <donofrio> lordcirth, Ubuntu bug id#1575720
[04:12] <kostkon> kkerwin, check this thread http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/44040-43-wireless-function-working-toshiba-satellite
[04:12] <lordcirth> Guy1524_, containers aren't just about security.  They are about portability and reproducibility
[04:15] <kkerwin> kostkon will give that a try
[04:24] <donofrio> how do you *un*"dist-upgrade ?
[04:25] <dottypot> i neede to remove a load of apple .DS and ._ files from Xubuntu. The commands I find in searches aren't working or are giving permission errors. I am terrified I am going to delete something imporant. can someone help?
[04:25] <dottypot> https://serverfault.com/questions/154114/how-to-remove-files-in-a-directory-ubuntu and a few similar commands are found often but not working for me
[04:26] <lordcirth> donofrio, you don't, generally.  Why?
[04:26] <cfhowlett> donofrio, if you are trying to "roll back" ... nope.
[04:26] <cfhowlett> dottypot, is this dual booting on a mac?  why do you have .DS on your ubuntu system?
[04:27] <donofrio> ok how to fix this pepperflash issue then?
[04:27] <dottypot> no they are files I brought over to Xubuntu from an external drive
[04:27] <cfhowlett> dottypot this was a MAC external drive, yes?
[04:27] <dottypot> cfhowlett: it was two fat32 external drives I manually moved files into and off of
[04:28] <dottypot> i just noticed them when checking some hidden files and when moving them to my phone as it cluttered things up...i'd like to remove all the unneccesarry apple files
[04:30] <cfhowlett> dottypot, open a terminal and do dpkg -l | grep DS
[04:30] <cfhowlett> should return nothing
[04:30] <dottypot> cfhowlett: I guess one of those commands DID work as most of the files re gone...I assumed the errors meant it didnt work
[04:30] <dottypot> ok following your direcitons
[04:32] <dottypot> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23483858/
[04:32] <kkerwin> kostkon: that trick is done. Waiting or fsck to finish on subsequent boot
[04:32] <cfhowlett> dottypot, that returned with grep DS ?  not grep ds?
[04:32] <dottypot> yes
[04:32] <kostkon> kkerwin: ok
[04:32] <dottypot> i cut and pasted your command
[04:33] <cfhowlett> dottypot, I think you're good to delete but do so carefully and ensure you are not killing buntu files
[04:33] <dottypot> cfhowlett: I think I already did it...the ._ files are all gone
[04:34] <cfhowlett> cool
[04:34] <dottypot> cfhowlett: when I did the command it gave several permission errors. I thought it meant it didn't work
[04:34] <dottypot> cfhowlett: would any linux files use "._" or are those only Apple?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> dottypot, well if you escalated your privileges that would do it.  sudo rm -r *-DF
[04:35] <cfhowlett> dottypot, I have never seen an ubuntu ._ but they could exist
[04:35] <dottypot> cfhowlett: I still have .DS_Store files so do I need to do another command?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> dottypot, yeah you can explicitly delete those
[04:36] <dottypot> cfhowlett: how to I find them first? is
[04:37] <dottypot> find -name ".DS_Store" -print is that ok?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> dottypot, go for it
[04:38] <dottypot> yeah that worked. Now which command to delete them?  Thanks!
[04:39] <cfhowlett> dottypot, hit your up arrow key and they'll return
[04:40] <dottypot> cfhowlett: I am saying I don't know which command actually worked...they all resulted in permission errors so I thought that meant they werent removing anything
[04:40] <dottypot> what is the proper way to remove all ._ or .DS_Store files for example?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> dottypot, "proper"? :)  you could first search with find . -name .DS_Store*     and pipe that to rm
[04:41] <cfhowlett> or vice versa
[04:41] <kostkon> kkerwin: glad to hear. Now you need to do something about those fsck errors
[04:41] <donofrio> ok how to fix this pepperflash issue then?
[04:42] <dottypot> cfhowlett: i read I should use / instead of . because / will find all on system...is that not right?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> dottypot, exceeds my command line fu.  read the man page for rm
[04:43] <kkerwin> Duly noted. Will get that done on my next reboot
[04:43] <lordcirth> dottypot, find / will search everything, yes
[04:43] <kkerwin> Thanks again
[04:43] <lordcirth> dottypot, please do a dry-run before piping find to rm, as a good habit :)
[04:47] <agent_white> "user has disconnected"
[04:47] <agent_white> ;)
[04:58] <donofrio> anyone use pepperflash after running dist-upgrade?
[04:58] <bottypot> when trying to use the find command I get permission errors for some folders...why? find: ‘./.cache/dconf’: Permission denied find: ‘./.gvfs’: Permission denied find: ‘./.dbus’: Permission denied
[04:59] <bottypot> I tried find . -name "._" -print and find / -name "._" -print
[04:59] <lordcirth> bottypot, some special directories have unreadable files.  It's ok
[05:00] <bottypot> if I do sudo with . it just returns user prompt...if I do sudo with / i get this find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
[05:00] <bottypot> that ok?
[05:02] <bottypot> so I wanted to get rid of all of these OSX ._ files and I ran find / -name "._" -delete and it returned several permission denied lines and then went back to the user prompt
[05:02] <bottypot> did I do it correctly?
[05:02] <bottypot> i saw some ways with rm -rf and various punctuations etc...
[05:02] <bottypot> dont know what is best way
[05:04] <bottypot> lordcirth: is the -delete way better or this command : find . "-name" "._" -exec rm {} \;
[05:04] <AlecTaylor> hi
[05:04] <AlecTaylor> bottypot: Yes
[05:04] <lordcirth> bottypot, -delete is simpler.  But again, dry run!
[05:04] <AlecTaylor> bottypot: Also no need to quote the args
[05:04] <bottypot> AlecTaylor: it wasnt a yes or no quesiton..i dont udnerstand
[05:04] <bottypot> lordcirth: how do you do a dry run?
[05:04] <AlecTaylor> -delete
[05:05] <hopeshare> hey community, I have installed https://configserver.com/ on my ubuntu server and I think my ip is blocked because of many times trying to use ssh+key
[05:05] <bottypot> so -delete is better than -exec rm {} |; right?
[05:05] <AlecTaylor> yes
[05:05] <hopeshare> can someone tells me how to delete my ip from blocked list
[05:06] <AlecTaylor> Who's blocked list?
[05:06] <lordcirth> bottypot, just run find without the -delete or rm and it should list all the files that it would delete
[05:06] <hopeshare> firewall https://configserver.com/
[05:06] <bottypot> AlecTaylor: thanks. what is the difference? does one do different things or just two ways for same thing?
[05:06] <hopeshare> I was trying to connect using filezilla manytimes and I think that the server blocked my ip
[05:07] <lordcirth> bottypot, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10923163/ever-try-to-delete-files-with-unix-shell-find-use-the-delete-option
[05:07] <hopeshare> cause I'm no longer being able to connect using putty
[05:07] <bottypot> lordcirth: is "._" going to find all files starting with that or do I need "._*"?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> hopeshare, filezilla is unlikely to block you.  your ISP however ...
[05:08] <bottypot> i read the * is "wildcard" and can mess things up?
[05:08] <hopeshare> actually I'm using vultr and I'm now accessing the server from the website not from my putty

[05:08] <hopeshare> AlecTaylor>
[05:08] <aus_mal> hi, is there any account-plugin-* for windows live available?
[05:09] <lordcirth> bottypot, * is wildcard, it may mess things up if you use it wrong?  Just make sure you quote it so bash doesn't expand it
[05:09] <bottypot> ok thanks
[05:11] <AlecTaylor> hopeshare: You want to do stuff like `find -type d -delete` avoid `exec` if you can, but avoid `|` even more
[05:11] <bottypot> lordcirth: does "._" got all files with ._ in the name?
[05:11] <AlecTaylor> How do I move my extended partition to the right? - I want a large primary partition. - http://i.imgur.com/BVVG7WG.png
[05:12] <bottypot> like would it find ._file and ._abc?
[05:12] <lordcirth> bottypot, it should, yes
[05:12] <lordcirth> bottypot, test it yourself, use 'touch' to create any file you like
[05:12] <cfhowlett> AlecTaylor, select it, format it, then join it to your other part
[05:12] <bottypot> lordcirth: are their any linux files that would contain ._ that I might not want to remove?
[05:12] <lordcirth> bottypot, as I said, run without -delete and see
 how you used this before https://configserver.com/index.html for firewall on the server?
[05:13] <bottypot> lordcirth: when I run it as -print I get tons of permission denied results
[05:13] <AlecTaylor> cfhowlett: I don't want to format anything, just move my extended partition to the unallocated space to the right, then expand my [only] primary partition
[05:13] <bottypot> hard to filter through
[05:13] <lordcirth> bottypot, 2> /dev/null
[05:13] <bottypot> lordcirth: i dont know what that means sorry
[05:13] <AlecTaylor> quiet the errors
[05:14] <cfhowlett> AlecTaylor, expanding means you have to have something to expand.  pretty sure you cannot expand to unprepared, space but I could be wrong
[05:14] <lordcirth> bottypot, redirect '2' (standard error) to a black hole
[05:14] <lordcirth> find / -name '._' 2> /dev/null
[05:14] <AlecTaylor> cfhowlett: I can expand to it, but I can't expand and contract the other side
[05:14] <bottypot> lordcirth: is that just for the command right then or it persists?
[05:14] <stan_man_can> cccccceukthbrfegfcclvivgntkbvgbubjevlbtfjrrf
[05:14] <bottypot> and where do you put that...after the command?
[05:15] <bottypot> ok sorry missed your last post
[05:15] <lordcirth> bottypot, I just sent the full command ^
[05:15] <cfhowlett> AlecTaylor, clearly I don't use gparted frequently enough to give meaningful advice.  sorry.  someone else in channel will know
[05:15] <bottypot> lordcirth: nothig happens...it just gives me back the user prompt
[05:15] <bottypot> does that mean nothing found?
[05:16] <lordcirth> bottypot, yup
[05:16] <lordcirth> mine finally returned nothing as well.  Probably should have excluded the network mounts lol
[05:17] <bottypot> so if I want to delete all the apple files starting with ._ and .DM_Store from an external drive...I mount it and do "find / -name "._" -delete" for example?
[05:17] <bottypot> thats safe and not going to screw my backup drive?
[05:18] <hopeshare> AlecTaylor, hi I saw that the link isn't working but nginx is up
[05:18] <hopeshare> how to fix ths
[05:18] <hopeshare> this
[05:19] <hopeshare> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[05:19] <lordcirth> bottypot, after doing a dry-run, and if you are sure that deleting those won't break anything
[05:19] <cfhowlett> hopeshare, not sure what you expected but that site reads as "under construction".
[05:19] <cryptic_> hello everyone, would someone like to lend me assistance? I'm setting up a web server on my personal desktop and keep running into minor problems such as when i load my forums onto my web server it wont send out the activation emails for users when they register or recover password. If someone could help me set it up that would be awesome!
[05:20] <hopeshare> yes
[05:20] <bottypot> lordcirth: thanks. also you used ' instead of " to frame the file...does it matter which?
[05:20] <cfhowlett> cryptic_, might want to ask the #ubuntu-server        channel
[05:20] <lordcirth> bottypot, not really.  Habit from writing YAML all day
[05:20] <hopeshare> cfhowlett, I think my ip is blocked by the firewall
[05:21] <cfhowlett> hopeshare, I'm in Tokyo and I see it as under construction ... if it was blocked it would return a 404 error or similar
[05:23] <cryptic_> no one seems to be on the ubuntu server irc
[05:23] <joshfreck> Hi Ubuntu wizards, I just tried to do a release upgrade, 14.04->16.04, it stopped before downloading the release, but an `sudo apt-get upgrade` apparently upgraded everything to xenial without the OS, and my system won't boot into the normal GUI, but I was able to get into this terminal. So, help me get my computer back? :)
[05:23] <cfhowlett> hopeshare, assuming your internal firewall is blocking, see this: https://scottlinux.com/2012/08/25/how-to-manually-edit-ufw-rules-on-ubuntu-linux/
[05:24] <cfhowlett> joshfreck, sudo apt update && sudo apt-full upgrade  for starters
[05:25] <joshfreck> k, I haven't tried that yet. when I do `do-release-upgrade` it says I'm at the latest, would that change your recommendation?
[05:25] <cfhowlett> joshfreck, following that, sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:25] <AlecTaylor> How do I move my extended partition to the right? - I want a large primary partition. - http://i.imgur.com/BVVG7WG.png
[05:26] <cfhowlett> joshfreck, confirm current build with         cat /etc/issue
[05:26] <joshfreck> cfhowlett: real quick, `sudo apt-full upgrade`? I don't have that...
[05:26] <cfhowlett> joshfreck, sudo apt full-upgrade             details matter      oh, wait: if actually on 14.04 it would be  sudo apt dist-upgrade
[05:27] <cfhowlett> joshfreck, sudo apt full-upgrade             details matter      oh, wait: if actually on 14.04 it would be  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:27] <lordcirth> cfhowlett, if it's 14.04, he would need apt-get
[05:27] <usr13> AlecTaylor: sda2?
[05:27]  * cfhowlett feels effects of coffee ... fading
[05:27] <cryptic_> cfhowlette, seems no ones on that channel.
[05:27] <joshfreck> haha
[05:27] <usr13> AlecTaylor: or sda1?
[05:28] <usr13> AlecTaylor: Oh so you want to move sda2?
[05:29] <joshfreck> so, `dist-upgrade` looks like it wants to install 2GB of new stuff, before I start this, is it correct that once this is done, I'll still need a `do-release-upgrade`?
[05:29] <usr13> AlecTaylor: So why do you want to move it?  What is your end goal?
[05:31] <usr13> AlecTaylor: Basically, you just select it and click the move icon which looks like >|
[05:31] <cryptic_> cfhowlette, seems no ones on that channel.
[05:32] <usr13> AlecTaylor: And then you'll be able to slide it to the right.
[05:32] <cfhowlett> cryptic_, seems all their servers are flying fine then.
[05:32] <cfhowlett> :)
[05:32] <cfhowlett> ask here = someone may know
[05:32] <cryptic_> hello everyone, would someone like to lend me assistance? I'm setting up a web server on my personal desktop and keep running into minor problems such as when i load my forums onto my web server it wont send out the activation emails for users when they register or recover password. If someone could help me set it up that would be awesome!
[05:32] <usr13> AlecTaylor: But why?  What are you wanting to do?
[05:33] <cryptic_> To explain further my site needs mysql , php and of course all that its running nothing but simple machines open source forums software.
[05:40] <AlecTaylor> usr13: Tried that [obviously] - http://i.imgur.com/r3n150p.png
[05:41] <taofeng> hi
[05:42] <usr13> AlecTaylor: Change the 0 in Free space preceeding it to 105961 and Free space following to 0
[05:43] <usr13> AlecTaylor: But you might have to move sda5 first.
[05:43] <usr13> AlecTaylor: but again, what is your end goal?
[05:43] <usr13> AlecTaylor: What is it you are really trying to do?
[05:44] <Flannel> cryptic_: You're going to need to set up an email server.  https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html
[05:44] <joshfreck> cfhowlett: I just ran `cat /etc/issue` and it is indeed 16.04...
[05:44] <usr13> AlecTaylor:  What is on these partitions?
[05:45] <usr13> ... anything?
[05:45] <Flannel> cryptic_: Another option would be to get the forums/PHP to send email via an external server.  That might be easy, or it might be a lot of work, I'm not too familiar with the behind the scenes details of how PHP sends emails.
[05:50] <donofrio> so pepperflash is dead ;(  punted and installed adobe-flashplugin and its working (not very multiarch though)
 it was a firewall issue, I used this command to remove my ip from the firewall https://www.liquidweb.com/kb/how-to-unblock-an-ip-address-in-csf/
[05:56] <hopeshare> thanks for your support
[05:58] <x_> n.net
[06:00] <hopeshare> AlecTaylor, thank you too
[06:04] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[06:04] <Bray90820> It's a surface 3
[06:08] <Vysty> I'm trying to get the resolution on a 2nd monitor at 1680x1050, I'm using "cvt 1680 1050" and "xrandr --newmode "x" <results>", however I'm getting an error message from doing it.
[06:08] <Vysty> Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[06:10] <Vysty> Anyone alive and kicking 'round these parts?
[06:11] <DanielPowerNL> I can't believe Ubuntu, the most popular distribution, and the one officially supported by Steam, still doesn't work out of the box with Steam. I've been searching around for the past 20 minutes trying to find the proper way to get around the swrast error on Intel. I've found dozens of different methods, many of which involve deleting system libraries, but there's no agreed upon best method.
[06:12]  * Rochvellon has no problems with steam
[06:12] <DanielPowerNL> Rochvellon, are you using open source or proprietary drivers?
[06:13] <DanielPowerNL> I'm not on obscure hardware. Just an Intel i7 with integrated graphics. Though the same issues occur on my desktop with an R9 270x with open source drivers. (Since it's not even possible to install the closed source drivers on new versions of Ubuntu anymore).
[06:13] <Rochvellon> well, I'm using nvidia GPU with proprietary drivers with an AMD CPU
[06:13] <DanielPowerNL> Arch and Solus have both included a steam-native-runtime package that fixes all of this. But I can't find anything similar for Ubuntu.
[06:16] <x_> t
[06:18] <FireStriker> Hi all
[06:22] <FireStriker> Is there a way to change the order of the os's in grub
[06:23] <bb0> i will summon a a union/struct packet with nibbles, pseudo struct hell, i will inject my packet AND YOU WILL WORSHIP
[06:23] <Bashing-om> !grub | FireStriker
[06:24] <bb0> plainly modified tcp octets
[06:24] <bb0> 8 bits each, with a nibble
[06:25] <bb0> can you prove the size of my tcp octets
[06:25] <bb0> 8 bits each
[06:25] <bb0> or does it have nibbles
[06:25] <bb0> at the end
[06:26] <JonelethIrenicus> i cant install anything via pip3 it is saying command not found whne using sudo, but it is avilable to my user
[06:26] <bb0> sudo is obsolete hence here after!
[06:26] <bb0> you will use su -c " "
[06:26] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: Basically in the grub config file " GRUB_DEFAULT=0 ' . in /boot/grub/hrub.cfg coubt the entry you wnat as the fegault boot enty, and change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to that number .
[06:26] <bb0> and delete your sudoers files
[06:27] <JonelethIrenicus> sudo: pip3: command not found
[06:27] <dmtd> hi all! so I did a bad thing. I just got a new hard drive. I did the fstab and setup a mount point and everything. Then i started copying data to the mount point...but wasn't thinking. I needed to reboot my box for the mount point to actually work. needless to say my drive is now showing as full. Where did the files go if the drive wasn't actually mounted?
[06:27] <bb0> sudo su?
[06:27] <bb0> su -c "command"
[06:27] <bb0> attackers may be in your sudoers files!
[06:27] <bb0> use su -c !
[06:28] <hateball> !behelpful | bb0
[06:28] <bb0> !offtopic
[06:29] <dmtd> bb0: I'm offtopic?
[06:29] <bb0> !offtopic
[06:29] <bb0> your ubuntu antics slander my rhel!
[06:30] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | bb0
[06:34] <wa2yne> hullo
[06:35] <wa2yne> I have a problem trying to install java
[06:36] <wa2yne> tried "su" to access root, and it asks for password, but refuses to accept the password I had set, or what I thought I set
[06:36] <FireStriker> I have a hp laptop with a AMD A6 5200 quad core 2.0ghz with a AMD Radeon HD 8600M 4 gb of ram. I am looking for a ubuntu flavour for gaming which is light weight, looks nice and is easy to use.
[06:38] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: With that criteria, may I suggest you check out xubuntu ?
[06:38] <wa2yne> would reinstalling ubuntu work to change the password? Or what?
[06:39] <FireStriker> Was thinking of going xubuntu have a good time with it on the older Toshiba I have revived
[06:41] <blue_cheese_rule> hullo?
[06:41] <blue_cheese_rule> where are all the brainy nerds?
[06:42] <Bashing-om> wa2yne: Be aware that the root account in ubuntu is disabled . It is sudo that gives you the power . To reset the password see: www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .
[06:42] <blue-cheese> there, better
[06:43] <blue-cheese> wat, sud? Ok, I'll try that
[06:43] <blue-cheese> oops, dern typos
[06:44] <blue-cheese> "sudo"
[06:45] <blue-cheese> how to create a directory called java, to put java in
[06:45] <blue-cheese> I am an old fart, but do better at this stuff than many my age
[06:47] <mumixam> from shell prompt?
[06:48] <Mills888> mkdir /opt/java; cd /opt/java
[06:48] <Mills888> wget http://javadl.oracle.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=216424
[06:48] <Mills888> untar the bundle
[06:49] <Mills888> or
[06:50] <Mills888> apt-get --yes update; apt-get --yes upgrade; apt-get --yes install software-properties-common
[06:50] <Bashing-om> blue-cheese: Is not that directory in exostence ? .. see what results ' ls -al /usr/share/java ' .
[06:50] <Mills888> sudo apt-add-repository --yes ppa:webupd8team/java; apt-get --yes update
[06:50] <Mills888> echo debconf shared/accepted-oracle-license-v1-1 select true | debconf-set-selections  && echo debconf shared/accepted-oracle-license-v1-1 seen true | debconf-set-selections  && apt-get --yes install curl oracle-java8-installer ; apt-get clean
[06:51] <FireStriker> Bashing-om: do you happen to know how big the install for xubuntu is? I want to calculate game sizes to make the secondary partition
[06:52] <Mills888> if you need/want an explaination of those commands, just ask.
[06:52] <blue-cheese> mumixam from file directory was trying to create usr/java folder
[06:53] <blue-cheese> and am losing most of what is being typed to me
[06:53] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: Well .. that is a personal choice . use case determins. As a general rule 50 gigs . Saved games .. gets huge .
[06:54] <blue-cheese> there, copied and pasted into text editor
[06:54] <blue-cheese> will look see
[06:54] <Rarrikins> FireStriker: If you mean Xubuntu itself, Xubuntu 16.10 64-bit takes around 4 GB.
[06:56] <FireStriker> 4 gb nice
[07:00] <blue-cheese> okay, folder java is there, with a lot of stuff I know not waht is
[07:01] <blue-cheese>  and it won't  let me paste the jre file
[07:01] <angel-swe> How come an ubuntu can work more lazy than a windows 7 in same pc? did I make something wrong?
[07:03] <blue-cheese> BTW, it was not that the password was wrong, but that su instead of sudo was wrong
[07:03] <FireStriker> How easy is it to make the partition that Xubuntu is on bigger?
[07:03] <Ben64> FireStriker: fairly
[07:04] <blue-cheese> I need to look at the instructions on java site
[07:04] <FireStriker> So if I make it 124gb I can decrees the primary partition and make the Linux partition bigger with little hassle
[07:05] <blue-cheese> maybe I sould not use the rpm  version?
[07:05] <Ben64> blue-cheese: what are you trying to do
[07:05] <Mills888> The instructions on the java site are garbage.  If you are in the unbuntu channel, why are you asking about the RPM?
[07:06] <blue-cheese> trying to install java, need for a couple of java based chats
[07:06] <Ben64> !java | blue-cheese
[07:06] <blue-cheese> firefox tells I need to install java
[07:06] <Mills888> What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:06] <blue-cheese> 16.10
[07:07] <Mills888> desktop or server?
[07:07] <blue-cheese> I have two versions of java downlaoded
[07:07] <Ben64> blue-cheese: forget that and look at the page ubottu gave you
[07:07] <Mills888> Ubuntu server, or Ubuntu Desktop?
[07:07] <blue-cheese> downloaded^but I know to only install one
[07:08] <blue-cheese> mate desktop
[07:09] <blue-cheese> let me scroll up
[07:09] <NoCode> Is there a way to only get KDE apps in the KDE DE, and have Gnome apps in the Gnome DE?
[07:10] <Welastevil> hi  ubuntu people!
[07:10] <Welastevil>  good morning!
[07:10] <m1911> good evening
[07:11] <Rarrikins> Sorry, we're closed for lunch!
[07:11] <arjarjun> hello
[07:11] <arjarjun> https://youtu.be/efBHaSr5L6I?list=PLa93KYFnBVUxAkCI9FYzhK7kupulk6frF
[07:11] <arjarjun> visit my channel for python tutorials
[07:12] <arjarjun> i will post as much technical video
[07:12] <blue-cheese> I'll delete the rpm
[07:12] <arjarjun> join #python
[07:12] <m1911> anyone use i3 wm ?
[07:13] <blue-cheese> why is it that so many web sites use dinky sized fonts, and light, making it harder to read
[07:13] <Ben64> arjarjun: don't do that here
[07:13] <Welastevil> someone here using piratbay?
[07:13] <Ben64> Welastevil: not appropriate for this channel
[07:14] <arjarjun> what is this channel for
[07:14] <Welastevil>  Im trying al the links from Russia... any of the mirros sites doesnt work..
[07:14] <arjarjun> anyone can tell
[07:14] <Welastevil>  oh Im sorry...I thyed to find # piratbay or #torrent... did not find
[07:14] <Ben64> arjarjun: ubuntu support
[07:14] <blue-cheese> BTW, thankyou for nthe help
[07:14] <arjarjun> okk brother
[07:14] <FireStriker> What's going on here
[07:15] <Welastevil> I know!
[07:15] <arjarjun> how can i contribute
[07:15] <arjarjun> to ubuntu
[07:15] <arjarjun> anyone can tell
[07:15] <Welastevil> yeah
[07:15] <Welastevil> do you know why Nixie Pixel is not releasing new videos?
[07:15] <Bashing-om> !contribute | arjarjun
[07:15] <Ben64> Welastevil: still not on topic
[07:16] <FireStriker> !offtopic
[07:18] <McFlurry> ice cream!
[07:20] <McFlurry> yummy ice cream
[07:21] <maum> hello
[07:21] <McFlurry> Hello maum
[07:21] <maum> where is the tcp source?
[07:21] <maum> McFlurry: hello
[07:22] <McFlurry> maum: its in hell, where your mom sucks cocks.
[07:22] <McFlurry> anything else I can help you with?
[07:22] <maum> I need to find tcp source on ubuntu
[07:22] <McFlurry> okay
[07:22] <Rarrikins> maum: What do you mean by the TCP source?
[07:22] <McFlurry> but I do not use ubuntu
[07:23] <McFlurry> I do, however, eat ice cream!
[07:23] <maum> for example tcp_cubic.c or tcp_reno.c
[07:23] <maum> or tcp.c file location
[07:23] <hateball> Surprisingly many trolls at the same point in time, unless they are different personas of a troubled mind
[07:23] <McFlurry> hateball: what?
[07:24] <Rarrikins> maum: It's probably in the kernel source. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode for ways to get it.
[07:24] <McFlurry> I'm not a troll
[07:24] <maum> Rarrikins: Do I need to download it?
[07:25] <McFlurry> I am lilo, returning to confess that I faked my death because I needed a break from being stalked by trolls.
[07:25] <FireStriker> Um mods help this channel is going nuts and so far offtopic
[07:25] <angel-swe> did anyone even seen my question :)
[07:26] <Rarrikins> maum: It looks like there's a gitweb site for it.
[07:27] <maum> Rarrikins: Do I need to download it and compile and install it again to implement the modified tcp source?
[07:30] <Rarrikins> maum: Yes. Here are some answers on that: https://askubuntu.com/questions/227754/how-can-i-modify-the-kernel-when-i-already-have-ubuntu-running-on-my-machine
[07:30] <McFlurry> I am lilo.    That troll is now dead, so I am ready to return and reclaim my network.
[07:31] <maum> Rarrikins: Thanks for your help!
[07:31] <hateball> angel-swe: Feel free to repeat your question
[07:31] <Rarrikins> maum: No problem.
[07:35] <angel-swe> My ubuntu works slower than Windows 7 installed on same machine. Something feels wrong.. What shoudl I check?
[07:35] <hateball> angel-swe: Well first determine *what* is slower. Bootup, application load times? Or is it GUI responsiveness?
[07:35] <Rarrikins> maum: It looks like the files you mention might be kernel modules. According to https://www.quora.com/Linux-Kernel-How-can-I-compile-and-load-the-tcp-c-and-tcp_input-c-files you can compile just them without recompiling the entire kernel. It looks like https://askubuntu.com/questions/515407/how-recipe-to-build-only-one-kernel-module deals with that.
[07:37] <maum> Rarrikins: It is more helpful. I like to change tcp protocol and test.
[07:38] <angel-swe> hateball, Boot time is almost same... also Ubuntu comes up with that dotted background first on login screen than the real background comes up.. than you can type in your password not before..
[07:39] <blue-cheese> tyrns out that what I need is icedtea plugin, and after some searching, found it and am installing same
[07:39] <hateball> angel-swe: what GPU/driver are you using? Type "lspci -k" in a terminal, look for the VGA section
[07:39] <hateball> !paste | angel-swe
[07:40] <blue-cheese> now  t works fine
[07:41]  * blue-cheese is crazy
[07:41] <angel-swe> hateball, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484388/
[07:43] <hateball> angel-swe: so it appears you are using nouveau instead of nvidia blob, which might be preferable
[07:44] <hateball> angel-swe: unless the chipset is too old for any recent blobs, I am not sure
[07:45] <hateball> angel-swe: what's the output of "ubuntu-drivers devices"
[07:45] <angel-swe> hateball,  I don't even know what is nouveau and where it came from... shall I change it to nvidia driver?
[07:46] <hateball> angel-swe: nouveau is the open source driver, which for the most part "works" but it generally has lower performance compared to nvidia blob
[07:46] <hateball> angel-swe: You can try changing to nvidia driver using either driver gui, or running "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[07:46] <angel-swe> hateball, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484441/
[07:49] <bivo> Accidentally dropped a folder on an NTFS formatted HDD onto the trash in the side pane and it auto deleted, is there a way to get it back?
[07:49] <hateball> angel-swe: it seems 367 works with your card, so that's what I'd use
[07:51] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: nVidia also recommends the 367 driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/108586/en-us .
[07:51] <angel-swe> hateball, I hit the "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[07:52] <angel-swe> hateball,  would that install 367?
[07:54] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: What returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[07:56] <hateball> angel-swe: yes it should, as that is the recommended driver
[07:56] <angel-swe> Bashing-om,  nvidia-304
[07:56] <angel-swe> nvidia-340
[07:56] <angel-swe> nvidia-367
[07:56] <angel-swe> intel-microcode
[07:58] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: Then yes, I expect the installer to choose the 357 version driver .
[07:59] <angel-swe> Bashing-om, Did it choose already ? or I will chose rightnow?
[07:59] <tuxinator> hi everybody, just found out that ubumirror is broken (atleast the cdimage part) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Provisioning/Mirror does not work as it always tries to find "current" which does not exist
[08:00] <angel-swe> Before "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" > https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484441/  and after autoinstall > https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484462/
[08:00] <FireStriker> How do i install ubuntu on a win 8 eare laptop?
[08:00] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: do ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Reboot to see the effect .
[08:01] <angel-swe> Bashing-om,  hateball  already made me to "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[08:01] <angel-swe> shall I do again?
[08:02] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[08:02] <SirCmpwn> I've set up a xenial chroot with debootstrap and run `apt-get install server^`, along with build-essential and some other things
[08:02] <SirCmpwn> my eventually goal is a chroot I can compile chromium in
[08:02] <SirCmpwn> however, the script to install dependencies fails to find quite a few of them, things like elfutils, which I can find online in the ubuntu package website fine
[08:03] <SirCmpwn> have I missed a set in configuring this system?
[08:03] <hateball> angel-swe: you will also need to reboot for the driver to  actually load, but the dpkg command posted by Bashing-om will show if the right package has been installed before you do so
[08:03] <angel-swe> Bashing-om,  https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484485/
[08:05] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: You are good " ii  nvidia-367" where the "ii" is desired=installed. and status=installed .
[08:06] <hateball> angel-swe: you may also wish to "sudo apt install nvidia-settings" I am not sure if ubuntu-drivers pulls that in as well. but it's the proper config tool for the binary blob
[08:06] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: hateball " ii  nvidia-settings                                 367.35-0ubuntu1  " . installed :)
[08:07] <angel-swe> so no need
[08:07] <SirCmpwn> ah I just needed a quick apt-get update
[08:08] <SirCmpwn> need to do that after running tasksel it seems
[08:08] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: Correct .. reboot to see what ya have now for performance .
[08:10] <angel-swe> ok Let me see
[08:10] <angel-swe> brb
[08:21] <Sircle> $ sudo apt-get source squid          Reading package lists... Done
[08:21] <Sircle> Picking 'squid3' as source package instead of 'squid' E: Unable to find a source package for squid3
[08:28] <angel-swe> Hello again.
[08:28] <angel-swe> Ok guys here what happen after I reboot...
[08:29] <angel-swe> First "Ubuntu loading" (dots) screen coming up very ugly and pixelled... (like a photo made bigger but pixels are looking ugly)
[08:29] <angel-swe> than full screen NVIDIA logo screen
[08:30] <angel-swe> than 4 dots on the screen loading again...
[08:30] <angel-swe> and finally the Login screen
[08:31] <angel-swe> Also when I hit the power button a very fast screen comes with an error and dissappears...
[08:31] <hateball> angel-swe: yes, because nvidia-367 has no kms support, that's why it looks ugly until you login to X
[08:31] <hateball> angel-swe: What do you mean power button? This seems unrelated
[08:31] <angel-swe> the button you hit to run the pc
[08:31] <hateball> angel-swe: Can you log in to your desktop, and is it appearing normal?
[08:31] <angel-swe> DEsktop is fine
[08:32] <hateball> Right, so then the nvidia driver has installed and is working properly. Said ugliness during boot is known and will be fixed by later driver releases
[08:33] <hateball> angel-swe: So you are pressing your power button to bring up a shutdown menu or something?
[08:37] <swadhin> Hello everyone
[08:37] <angel-swe> hateball, WHen the pc is turned off and when I hit the power screen there is a screen shows up for a second with nvidia errors.. than dissappears
[08:37] <Karl__> Sorry, my internet bugged out, did someone reply to my question? Or did that one not even show? Having a bad connection here
[08:38] <swadhin> I need help :(
[08:38] <swadhin> on indicator icon size
[08:38] <Karl__> I was asking if it's possible to upgrade 14.04 to 16.x without having to download 16 and putting it on a cd/usb, I'd prefer something similar to apt-get update
[08:40] <swadhin> Yes
[08:40] <swadhin> You can do release upgrade
[08:41] <EriC^^> Karl__: sudo do-release-upgrade does that
[08:41] <Bashing-om> Karl__: If you are fully updated in 14.04 .. and PPAs reverted, no proprietary drivers in-use . then terminal command ' sudo do-release-upgrade ' to release-upgrade to 16.04/
[08:42] <Karl__> Alright, thanks! Will try that once I have a stable enough connection
[08:44] <swadhin> Few icons like flareget, Clementine looks huge in indicator. I am on Ubuntu MATE 16.10.
[08:50] <nikre> hi, what is the way to go for backing up a whole drive with multiple partitions?
[08:51] <nikre> is there a way so i get a single image with partition flags etc. ready?
[08:51] <Bashing-om> !backup | nikre
[08:51] <nikre> !cloning
[08:56] <dritto77> kjkl
[09:05] <dn`> Is there any offical boot image available that boots into some kind of rescue system - but with a running SSH daemon?
[09:05] <angel-swe> hateball, Why was loading dots showing very big? what nvdia did not support?
[09:05] <angel-swe> you as idk or something like that?
[09:06] <hateball> angel-swe: KMS
[09:06] <angel-swe> I see
[09:06] <hateball> angel-swe: means supporting proper resolutions and such in framebuffer, before you load X
[09:06] <angel-swe> no way to make it support right? like doing a setting or installing an extra pack something
[09:06] <hateball> angel-swe: later drivers (370) has some basic support
[09:06] <hateball> angel-swe: not yet no
[09:07] <angel-swe> hateball, my colleagua made a vide for you
[09:07] <angel-swe> to see how its booting
[09:07] <angel-swe> we just need to find a place to upload it
[09:08] <hateball> angel-swe: anyhow it's just cosmetic (unless you actually need to work in a tty) so it's not really something to care about
[09:08] <hateball> unless you like to show people how pretty the boot process is
[09:08] <Sircle> which one to install via dpgk -i ? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8928716
[09:10] <hateball> angel-swe: you can add the kernel parameter "nvidia-drm.modeset=1" if you like and see if that removes the errors. the driver still does not support resolutions over 1280 so bootsplash will be pixelated regardless
[09:11] <angel-swe> hateball, how kernel knows the error? btw it didn't come up at last boot
[09:11] <hemangpatel> Hi there
[09:12] <hemangpatel> How do i get date of next year in this format, 2016-06-14T00:00:00Z ?
[09:14] <angel-swe> hateball,  http://sendvid.com/cip72xz3
[09:16] <hateball> angel-swe: Yes, so no errors? Everything looks normal
[09:16] <angel-swe> you seen the video?
[09:16] <hateball> angel-swe: yes
[09:16] <angel-swe> isn't that so slow?
[09:17] <hateball> angel-swe: Booting you mean?
[09:17] <angel-swe> yeah
[09:17] <hateball> angel-swe: It is probably normal on an HDD
[09:17] <angel-swe> also there is a moment when "Login" screen comes up with that password field.. did you mention that the background changes?
[09:18] <hateball> angel-swe: Well that I don't know, I don't use Unity or LightDM myself
[09:19] <angel-swe> hateball,  I hatet my ubuntu after Nvidia installed... :(
[09:19] <ikonia> angel-swe: remove the boot splash - see what's going on
[09:19] <ikonia> angel-swe: that looks like your video card setup is killing your machine
[09:19] <angel-swe> I wish there was a way to load it to this morning when there was no nvidia
[09:20] <ikonia> angel-swe: remove the nvidia packages and disable it in xorg
[09:20] <hateball> angel-swe: Well you can of course revert to nouveau
[09:20] <angel-swe> hateball, How can I do that
[09:20] <hateball> But this whole thing started with you wanting a more responsive GUI
[09:20] <ikonia> I'd look behind the boot splash see if the time is being used configuing components
[09:20] <angel-swe> hateball,  I feel no change on GUI responsivity
[09:21] <ikonia> if thats the case you maybe able to improve it by pre-configuring those components
[09:22] <hateball> angel-swe: like ikonia said, try booting without splash
[09:22] <angel-swe> what is splash
[09:23] <hateball> angel-swe: when you are at the grub menu, edit the bootline and remove "quiet splash" from it
[09:23] <ptprince72> bonjour!
 angel-swe: that looks like your video card setup is killing your machine
[09:23] <ptprince72> bonjour!
[09:23] <hateball> !fr | ptprince72
[09:29] <angel-swe> ikonia, I loved the splash screen before I installed the NVdia drivers.
[09:30] <angel-swe> No KMS support looks ugly (thx hateball)
[09:30] <angel-swe> (thx to understand)
[09:31] <angel-swe> ikonia,  WHy did you said that "<ikonia> angel-swe: that looks like your video card setup is killing your machine"
[09:31] <dn`> I have a kinda ‘funny’ problem that I seem unable to figure out: When I install a new Server with 6 GPUs attached manual (text installer/server) - everything is fine, the machine boots and I have all my Ram (8GB); When I use the same install image - but install it via NetworkConsole and a minimal preseed file (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole) and do the rest by hand - after booting I got 426MB (total - not free,
[09:31] <dn`> really total) Ram. It seems to be related to the preseed, because that’s the last variable. I would assume it’s some setting that differs, but I can’t figure out which. - Anyone got a tip? I would asume tasksel, kernel - but I’m not sure to be honest
[09:32] <EriC^^> dn`: what does lshw -C memory show?
[09:32] <hateball> angel-swe: well, did you try using the boot parameter I suggested?
[09:32] <hateball> angel-swe: nvidia-drm.modeset=1
[09:32] <dn`> EriC^^: 2x4GB
[09:32] <angel-swe> hateball,  sorry I did miss that...
[09:32] <dn`> EriC^^: but e.g. /proc/meminof -> MemTotal:         436852 kB ;-)
[09:32] <angel-swe> let me see
[09:33] <angel-swe> hateball,  nvidia-drm.modeset=1
[09:33] <angel-swe> sorry
[09:33] <angel-swe> hateball,  nvidia-drm.modeset=1: command not found
[09:33] <dn`> EriC^^: same hardware with manual install (from the same medium, just fully manual - works), but as soon as I use any preeseeding - I got this problem; to make it even more fun - if I attach only e.g. 5 GPUs it’s okay ;-)
[09:33] <hateball> angel-swe: It's not a command you run in a terminal, you add that on the grub bootline. Same place you would remove "quiet splash"
[09:34] <angel-swe> well I don't know how to do that...
[09:34] <angel-swe> also I like the ubuntu splash. can't we keep it?
[09:34] <hateball> angel-swe: It tells you when you are on the boot menu... Press e to edit
[09:35] <angel-swe> oh ok
[09:35] <angel-swe> let me try
[09:35] <hateball> angel-swe: then you edit the line that ends with "quiet splash". make it "quiet splash nvidia-drm.modeset=1" first
[09:36] <hateball> angel-swe: if that still looks crappy etc, then you try removing "quiet splash" totally the next reboot, see if bootup time improves. if not it will at least show what's going on
[09:36] <hateball> angel-swe: these are temporary changes, if one works well you can make them permanent later so you dont have to do it manually each boot
[09:38] <angel-swe> ok
[09:38] <angel-swe> let me try
[09:38] <angel-swe> brb
[09:40] <l3s7r0z> Wssup
[09:40] <l3s7r0z> I saw some hacker installed Ubuntu on the new NES lol
[09:40] <l3s7r0z> Guys are crazy out there
[09:45] <angel-swe> hateball, I added the line you said... nothing really changed...
[09:46] <hateball> angel-swe: Did you try booting without "quiet splash" also? Did that change bootup times?
[09:48] <angel-swe> hateball, No i did not. Cause I was not sure if I should only delete quite splash or also the line you told me to add.
[09:49] <hateball> angel-swe: oh you would not add nvidia-drm.modeset=1 in the case of removing quiet splash
[09:50] <angel-swe> ok
[09:50] <angel-swe> let me try it
[09:50] <angel-swe> brb
[09:55] <lodiz> hi, anyone knows how to install xorg server 1.19? or when a package will be avalible?
[09:56] <FireStriker> Hi guys how do I install ubuntu on a windows 8 erier laptop
[09:57] <angel-swe> hateball, same booting time just with a black screen
[09:58] <angel-swe> how can I revert everything back..
[09:58] <angel-swe> to this morning... No nvidia driver...
[09:58] <angel-swe> remove the nvidia packages and disable it in xorg
[09:58] <hateball> angel-swe: "sudo apt remove nvidia-367" should do the trick
[09:59] <FireStriker> What do I to install AMD drivers?
[09:59] <ablest> system settings>software and updates>additional drivers tab
[10:00] <hateball> FireStriker: Do you mean amdgpu-pro ? Those only support a few chipsets, and you have to install manually from AMD
[10:00] <FireStriker> I have a apu and a gpu
[10:00] <angel-swe> hateball, Uninstall is complete... How do I disable it in xorg?
[10:00] <FireStriker> Laptop btw
[10:00] <FireStriker> 2013 laptop
[10:01] <ablest> me too but 2011 notebook
[10:01] <ablest> amd
[10:01] <hateball> angel-swe: the package should have removed the blacklisting of nouveau automatically
[10:01] <ablest> apu with radeon
[10:02] <angel-swe> hateball, Ok can I now simplry restart
[10:06] <angel-swe> hateball, hello again
[10:06] <dn`> how can I influence with ubuntu/or what does influence the mtrr settings? I got the problem that the mttr settings only cover ‘504MB’ instead of ‘7918’ available
[10:06] <hateball> angel-swe: hello
[10:06] <angel-swe> hateball,  Can we check if it's gone?
[10:06] <FireStriker> How do I dual boot ubuntu with win 8 (UEFI)
[10:07] <angel-swe> hateball, here https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484851/
[10:07] <angel-swe> this is current one.
[10:11] <angel-swe> Can some one paste the logs of last 1 hour?
[10:12] <angel-swe> to ubuntu pastebin
[10:12] <Ben64> !log | angel-swe
[10:15] <angel-swe> Ben64, thx but I dont see uduntu logs in thee.. so may starting with ubuntu but no ubuntu iteself
[10:15] <hateball> angel-swe: Well, if you have a working GUI and no nvidia blob installed then it should be fine. run "lspci -k" to see what module is in use
[10:15] <Ben64> angel-swe: it's there
[10:15] <hateball> !dualboot | FireStriker
[10:24] <angel-swe> hateball, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484894/
[10:24] <hateball> angel-swe: yes, see the VGA section: Kernel driver in use: nouveau
[10:25] <angel-swe> Ben64, MAybe it is but I can't find the right folder...
[10:26] <angel-swe> hateball,  so everything is like this morning.. thank you..
[10:26] <hateball> angel-swe: It should be, yes
[10:27] <angel-swe> hateball, Thank you for all support...
[10:28] <angel-swe> hateball, Can you take a look at this aswell before I leave..
[10:28] <hateball> angel-swe: heh, you're back at square 1, so
[10:28] <angel-swe> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484905/
[10:28] <joegiampaoli> Hello, upgrading to 16.04 clean install on my laptop. Installation is detecting my HD as /dev/sdb and not /dev/sda any hints, tips to make it detect it as sda?
[10:28] <angel-swe> hateball, I did but now I know that NVIDIA driver won't make any change of speed.
[10:29] <hateball> angel-swe: that looks like you have removed a metapackage and those packages have now lost their dependency
[10:29] <joegiampaoli> BTW I'm booting in Legacy mode not in UEFI mode from USB created with unetbootin...
[10:29] <angel-swe> so using "sudo apt autoremove" as it says would be good rigt
[10:29] <hateball> angel-swe: you probably do not want to remove dkms for instance
[10:30] <hateball> angel-swe: looks like you removed a kde/plasma related metapackage
[10:30] <ptprince72> coucou
[10:31] <angel-swe> hateball, So I shouldn't do "sudo apt autoremove" ??
[10:32] <ptprince72>  /join #ubuntu-qc
[10:32] <ptprince72>  /join #ubuntu-qc.
[10:32] <ptprince72> bonjour
[10:33] <angel-swe> ptprince72,  :)
[10:34] <angel-swe> ptprince72,  peste without space for jesus :p
[10:34] <hateball> angel-swe: some packages look like you wouldnt want to have removed... then again you dont need dkms if you only use opensource drivers for instance
[10:34] <hateball> I gotta go lunch tho, so... maybe someone else can take a look and make sure
[10:35] <angel-swe> hateball,  in this case I do no do autoremove
 angel-swe: you probably do not want to remove dkms for instance
[10:36] <angel-swe> that looks not safe.
[10:37] <angel-swe> Btw when it says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:37] <angel-swe> " means that I am up to date?
[10:38] <joegiampaoli> Hello, upgrading to 16.04 clean install on my laptop. Installation is detecting my HD as /dev/sdb and not /dev/sda any hints, tips to make it detect it as sda?  BTW I'm booting in Legacy mode not in UEFI mode from USB created with unetbootin...
[10:40] <Zen> joegiampaoli: What drive does it think SDA is?
[10:40] <Zen> I mean.. probably the USB drive
[10:40] <Zen> sda/sdb/etc are just assigned at boot time and aren't guaranteed to be the same
[10:41] <joegiampaoli> Zen: So when I reboot after install it should default to sda?
[10:41] <Zen> Probably, why is it an issue?
[10:42] <joegiampaoli> Zen: I think it detected the USB as sda
[10:42] <Zen> You should be identifying drives by their UUID, not their device name
[10:42] <Zen> joegiampaoli: lsblk will show whats what
[10:42] <joegiampaoli> Zen: OK, so this will not cause any issues? Just names right?
[10:43] <Zen> Pretty much, just don't try and use drives by their /dev name for mounting and such, use their UUID
[10:44] <joegiampaoli> Zen: OK, thanks! I just wanted to make sure this wouldn't cause an issue with fstab...
[10:45] <Zen> joegiampaoli: as long as fstab is using UUIDs like it should be using then you'll be fine :)
[10:47] <Sircle>  https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8928726 clueless with squid. I want to reject POST calls in https or filter/moniter with rules.
[10:48] <joegiampaoli> Zen: OK, Thanks! :)
[10:58] <somerandomguy222> Does anyone use iptables6?
[11:09] <Sircle> somepoortech: #iptables
[11:14] <angel-swe> "Chrome - Chromium - Fİrefox" wich one is mostly used by Linux users?
[11:25] <angel-swe> hateball,  still there? I found NVDIA X Server setting app inside the installed app list... This is part of NVIDIA driver that we installed this morning?
[11:26] <EriC^^> angel-swe: yeah
[11:26] <hateball> angel-swe: yes, you can safely remove nvidia-settings if you like
[11:27] <hateball> angel-swe: it's only used if you actually use the nvidia blob tho, so it doesnt cause any trouble just by existing
[11:27] <angel-swe> oh I wont be able to use them as long as I install the nvidia blob back right?
[11:29] <neredsenvy> I have a single boot, Ubuntu only a clean install. Worked all day yesterday did nothing but browse web, today I get: Error parsing PCC subspaces from PCCT
[11:29] <neredsenvy> Any ideas ?
[11:30] <neredsenvy> I tried nouveau.modeset=0 at the end of linux line in GRUB to no success.
[11:33] <hateball> neredsenvy: Can you try with an older kernel?
[11:33] <neredsenvy> hateball: How to ?
[11:34] <hateball> neredsenvy: hold left shift during boot to get to grub menu, it should have a list of kernels
[11:34] <hateball> neredsenvy: Perhaps you had a kernel update yesterday that broke things for you
[11:37] <hhee> hey!
[11:37] <hhee> does ubuntu has plugin for play short tiptip sound on key pressure?
[11:49] <Mufeu> Hey there
[11:49] <EriC^^> hi
[11:51] <Manuel2> What IRC client do you people use?
[11:52] <kuSuSE> konversation
[11:52] <thomas_> jhi
[11:52] <thomas_> hi all
[11:52] <kuSuSE> neckbeard certification requires you to use irssi though
[11:53] <thomas_> how do i install teamspeak on virtual box
[11:53] <kuSuSE> the same way you install it on your base machine?
[11:53] <Guest13632> hi all
[11:53] <Mufeu> I have an issue with my virtual ubuntu : I converted a Vsphere ovf to a VMware ovf and uploaded it on my ESX. The machine starts but fall into this well-known EMERGENCY MODE !! <angry> I came on this channel 'cause I saw a topic on archlinux with kind of like the same problem.. Here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=161774
[11:53] <Guest13632> how do i install teamspeak in virtual box in ubuntu
[11:53] <Mufeu> woops, wrong link : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2318779&p=13466943#post13466943
[11:54] <Manuel2> kuSuSE: thanks
[11:54] <Mufeu> but I can't use the apt-get 'cause the network is cut from the internet :s
[11:54] <kuSuSE> mufeu so use whatever gnome gives you? empathy?
[11:55] <Mufeu> Don't understand what you're saying kuSuSE :X
[11:56] <kuSuSE> what distro are you on? maybe it already comes with an irc client
[11:56] <Manuel2> kuSuSE I think you confused his nickname with mine
[11:57] <Manuel2> I am using HexChat, but I wanted to try out anything else popular here
[11:57] <kuSuSE> ah sorry
[11:57] <kuSuSE> I think hexchat is fine :3
[11:58] <dn`> my ‘mtrr settings’ are wrong depending on how I install (preseed or manual) - it’s always wrong when I use preseed - not that I set anything mtrr related - I end up with 504MB Ram instead of 8GB
[11:59] <nbusrone> anyone know what is keyring ? everytime I started chrome it asked for password to unlock keyring
[12:01] <thanzeon> REUP - Hi everyone! i'm trying to set up a virtual machine for some projects of mine, i'm using Ubuntu 16.10 64 bit, VMWare Workstation pro 12 and Win 10 with an Intel i7 6700 HQ. The installation and first run go as smooth as possible, however, after the first reboot within the first 10 / 15 seconds it appears a message saying "The CPU has been di
[12:01] <thanzeon> sabled by the guest operating system." no warnings or errors, the vm just freeze and i get the message from VMWare. This is the second time i do a complete reinstall of the vm. Any thoughts?
[12:01] <Manuel2> thanzeon: Is virtualization enabled in your BIOS?
[12:02] <Manuel2> You might want to check it in your BIOS settings. It should be enabled
[12:03] <thanzeon> in the bios of the host?
[12:04] <Manuel2> thanzeon: Yes
[12:04] <thanzeon> if it wasn't enabled shouldn't the vm just not start? i have other osx and windows vms that work just fine
[12:05] <Manuel2> thanzeon: True. Which one is the host OS?
[12:05] <hateball> nbusrone: keyring is where you can store your passwords to various applications
[12:06] <thanzeon> Manuel2: Win 10
[12:08] <Manuel2> thanzeon: https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2000542
[12:10] <Manuel2> kernel panic it says. Maybe you should try an older release, 16.04 LTS
[12:10] <thanzeon> Manuel2: sometimes it does not do that, just now it did not hang up
[12:10] <hhee> Manuel2, best irc client ever hexchat :)
[12:11] <Manuel2> hhee: I tried using Pidgin just now, but it felt cluttered, although it had better eye-candy
[12:12] <Manuel2> thanzeon: Since 16.10 is "more modern", my guess is that the kernel has bugs with VMWare. Consider using an older, more reliable and tested kernel like 14.04 or 16.04 LTS
[12:13] <nbusrone> hateball : how to disable every restart on pc on chromium asking for password ?
[12:13] <hateball> nbusrone: do you have automatic login?
[12:13] <hateball> nbusrone: are you using ubuntu with Unity?
[12:14] <thanzeon> alright, i'll try 16.04 this evening, thank, i'll let you know if i find you here
[12:14] <Manuel2> thanzeon: Ok, good luck
[12:16] <nbusrone> hateball : using 14.04 right now , and I have automatic login but when I start chromium it asked for keyring.After typing it works but only happen asking again on every reboot on pc.
[12:16] <helloNL> Hey, I am trying to add the Windows bootloader to grub on a fakeRaid but it doesn get added by this command. Anyone know why? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XGXeK3PQ/
[12:17] <hateball> nbusrone: usually the keyring is unlocked when you login manually. otherwise you will be prompted by the first program that wants to access it, chromium in this case
[12:18] <hateball> nbusrone: I don't use Unity / gnome-keyring myself so I dont know if/how you can unlock the keyring when use automatic login
[12:20] <nbusrone> hateball : I am still quite confuse, after upgraded chromium it started to ask for keyring. I just wanted to disable it or permanent store it so it wouldn't keep asking on every restart.
[12:21] <ablest> hi
[12:21] <ablest> before i login ubuntu i have to enter a passphase
[12:22] <ablest> how do i change that password
[12:22] <OerHeks> ablest, likely that is your encrypted disk/home password
[12:23] <ablest> yes
[12:23] <OerHeks> gnome-disk-utility lets you change the passphrase.
[12:23] <SuperSeriousCat> Encrypted disk happend before pc boots
[12:24] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/95137/how-to-change-luks-passphrase
[12:24] <ablest> ty
[12:24] <SuperSeriousCat> Sudo passwd (acc name) to change your password fast
[12:24] <ablest> im mean before SuperSeriousCat
[12:24] <ablest> that
[12:25] <OerHeks> or 'disks' can do that too, same url
[12:27] <lodiz> hi, anyone that installed xorg 1.19? i dont find it anywhere but i read that its released.
[12:30] <ablest> ok im done ty going to restart
[12:30] <OerHeks> lodiz, it is just released, so wait for 16.10 to get updated, or maybe 17.04 ?
[12:33] <lodiz> OerHeks: ok, thanks
[12:33] <ablest> :)
[12:36] <helloNL> Could anyone show me how to add a Windows 10 to grub manually? I use fakeRaid so it can find it automatically
[12:37] <helloNL> can't*
[12:47] <PinkPing> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp —destination-port 80 -j REDIRECT —to-port 8080  <— what it means?
[12:49] <usr13> PinkPing: It's redirecting traffic from port 80 to port 8080
[12:49] <PinkPing> request 80  ——> 8080 ? usr13 ?
[12:50] <usr13> PinkPing: http://askubuntu.com/questions/444729/redirect-port-80-to-8080-and-make-it-work-on-local-machine
[12:50] <usr13> PinkPing: It's for incoming traffic
[12:50] <PinkPing> respond 80 ——> 80?
[12:50] <PinkPing> respond 80 ——> 8080?
[12:50] <PinkPing> usr13: ?
[12:51] <usr13> PinkPing: It's for if you have a webserver listening on 8080
[12:51] <PinkPing> 8080 ——> 80 ? usr13 ?
[12:53] <CoderEurope> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/2016-11-16/
[12:54] <usr13> helloNL: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[12:54] <usr13> helloNL: 4.1.2 Chain-loading an OS
[12:55] <usr13> PinkPing: What is it you are trying to do?
[12:55] <helloNL> Could you tell me a bit more about the set root= part?
[12:56] <usr13> helloNL: It is where you designate the Hard Drive and the partition.
[12:56] <PinkPing> i just want to know that command. but i don’t know what is redirect?
[12:56] <PinkPing> usr13:
[12:56] <helloNL> Yh but how do I know which one it is, I used FakeRaid :P
[12:57] <arjarjun> include me in your project
[12:57] <arjarjun> anyone
[12:57] <arjarjun> ???
[12:57] <PinkPing> why i redirect 80 to 8080? usr13 ?
[12:57] <arjarjun> i want to contribute
[12:57] <PinkPing>  what is the purpose of forwarding port 80 to 8080?  usr13 ?
[12:58] <usr13> PinkPing: man iptables
[12:58] <PinkPing> yeah but can you give me hing more?
[12:58] <helloNL> usr13 this is my result of lsblk and now I am not sure how to do this https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xP5Bsax8/
[12:58] <PinkPing> hint
[12:59] <usr13> PinkPing: If you have a webserver listening on 8080, you would redirect traffic for port 80 to port 8080
[12:59] <usr13> PinkPing: Because port 80 is default for webservers
[13:00] <PinkPing> why i don’t use 80 because is default?
[13:00] <PinkPing> why i don’t use 80 because it is default?
[13:00] <PinkPing> usr13: ?
[13:01] <Ahackr> hi
[13:01] <Ahackr> anyone here
[13:01] <arjarjun> hello @ahackr
[13:02] <Ahackr> hi
[13:02] <arjarjun> are you new
[13:02] <usr13> set root=(hd0,1) means that you have MS Windows on the first (primary) hard drive and on the 1st partition on that primary hard drive.
[13:03] <Ahackr> does anyone know how to test ssd speed on ubuntu
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:04] <helloNL> usr13: I get that, the problem is that it's showing four drives where drive 1 and 3 are the same partition
[13:04] <usr13> PinkPing: It is up to you what port you use.  Yes port 80 is default so, right, why not just use port 80 and there is no need for redirect rule
[13:05] <usr13> helloNL: So just try hd0,1 and see if it works.
[13:05] <PinkPing> what is good when i use 8080 instead of 80? then?  usr13 ?
[13:06] <usr13> helloNL: If MS Windows is on the first partition, it will probably work.
[13:06] <helloNL> So just try and error?
[13:06] <usr13> PinkPing: Yea, just use port 80 and don't bother with an iptables rule.
[13:07] <PinkPing> :(
[13:07] <usr13> PinkPing: Ok?
[13:07] <PinkPing> usr13: it is best answer to me?  :|
[13:08] <helloNL> The problem is that I am not having it installed on /dev/sda usr13 but on /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1, where /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1p2 is the EFI partition
[13:08] <usr13> PinkPing: I did answer you.  It is up to you.  I for one, see no really good reason to run your webserver on a non-standard port.
[13:08] <Ahackr> aa
[13:09] <usr13> helloNL: sudo fdisk -l   #What does that say?
[13:09] <th0r> usr13, security? having more than one web service behind the firewall?
[13:09] <PinkPing> ok then portfoward of 80 ——> 80 is good? usr13 ?
[13:09] <Ahackr> sdb
[13:10] <helloNL> usr13 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VAAGHGxo/
[13:12] <usr13> th0r: But he is showing us a rule that will direct all traffic to port 8080 and no ip address designation.  But yes, some may find it more secure to use a non-standard port, so if you would like to instruct him on the benifits of using non-standard ports, go right ahead.  His question was simply what does the iptables rule mean, what does it do.
[13:14] <usr13> helloNL: So MS Windows is on the 1TB hard drive, right?
[13:14] <helloNL> No it isn
[13:14] <helloNL> isnt
[13:14] <arjarjun> how can i contribute to ubuntu
[13:14] <arjarjun> plz tell
[13:15] <helloNL> 1TB hard drive doesnt have any partitions on it
[13:15] <|VAH|-BlueTu> hi all
[13:15] <Ahackr> how can i test my ssd's speed
[13:15] <usr13> helloNL: What does the 1TB drive have on it?
[13:15] <|VAH|-BlueTu> can anyone pls tell me how can i install urban terror on ubuntu
[13:16] <usr13> helloNL: ... anything?
[13:16] <|VAH|-BlueTu> can anyone pls tell me how can i install urban terror on ubuntu
[13:16] <helloNL> I still need to partition it usr13, atm nothing
[13:16] <helloNL> I use it as a data drive
[13:16] <|VAH|-BlueTu> can anyone pls tell me how can i install urban terror on ubuntu
[13:17] <Ahackr> idk
[13:17] <usr13> helloNL: Well I can not advise you on what to do with your hard drives.
[13:17] <usr13> helloNL: It's up to you.
[13:17] <Ahackr> does anyone have some guide for ubuntu
[13:17] <|VAH|-BlueTu> yes
[13:18] <Ahackr> what's the web site
[13:18] <helloNL> Yh but I am trying to add Windows which is installed on /dev/mapper/iws_cdedfdejjc_Volume1p4 to grub, which I cant seem to do usr13
[13:18] <|VAH|-BlueTu> wait
[13:18] <|VAH|-BlueTu> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-an-absolute-beginners-guide/
[13:18] <|VAH|-BlueTu> here u go
[13:18] <arjarjun> also tell me how to contribute to projects
[13:19] <arjarjun> in ubuntu with others
[13:19] <Ahackr> i use ubuntu for one year
[13:19] <|VAH|-BlueTu> type that on google and see it by yourself
[13:19] <usr13> helloNL: Not that it matters, but it *does* appear that sda has one single partition.  See lines 109-110
[13:20] <helloNL> Well I used FakeRAID to bind it to sdc usr13
[13:20] <helloNL> So they might both have 1 single partition
[13:20] <usr13> helloNL: Well, maybe it *does* matter, because below that, sdb seems to be the one that has no partitions.
[13:21] <usr13> helloNL: So is MS Windows on a 1TB hd?
[13:21] <helloNL> No it's not
[13:21] <usr13> helloNL: Ok, well, where is it?
[13:21] <helloNL> Itś on that one of line 138, ubuntu is installed on that one of line 140
[13:23] <helloNL> this might clear it up more usr13 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/QN3zGpm4/
[13:23] <Ahackr> when i  use the software disk,use the smart function,i see my hdd have 222bilion ecc
[13:23] <Ahackr> what does it mean
[13:28] <usr13> helloNL: So I guess it would be hd3.  But why not just use the grub utilities.
[13:28] <rilliangrant__> hello
[13:29] <rilliangrant__> Anyone
[13:29] <rilliangrant__> goodbye
[13:30] <usr13> helloNL: See my pm
[13:30] <usr13> helloNL: From: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[13:30] <helloNL> The problem is that I have tried installing it with the tools
[13:30] <helloNL> It can find it :/
[13:30] <helloNL> cant
[13:31] <usr13> helloNL: So what is the history of this PC?  What have you done to it and why?
[13:31] <helloNL> I have installed freshly Windows on it. the selected drive was a FakeRAID of 2 256GB SSD
[13:31] <usr13> helloNL: What is your end goal.
[13:32] <helloNL> Now I wanted to have Ubuntu run next to it on the SSD
[13:32] <helloNL> As I need to also program on Linux for my minor
[13:32] <usr13> helloNL: So you installed Ubuntu?
[13:32] <helloNL> Yh on the 150gb that was left on my RAID 0 drive
[13:33] <usr13> helloNL: did you boot the install media on the PC as it is now?
[13:33] <helloNL> I have installed Ubuntu already and now it only can boot into ubuntu, it cant find Windows, but I have checked and the EFI files are there and the partitions for Windows itself are too
[13:35] <FAMAS> this user invites all nicks which were never invited in life to the unmoderated channel and no nicks will receive subsequent invites
[13:35] <Mufeu> Does anyone know how to fix this problem : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326216 but another way ;D Can't apt-get 'cause machine is not on the internet :s
[13:36] <mongo_monger> hello all
[13:36] <mongo_monger> hope im in right place for mongo
[13:36] <FAMAS> this user invites all nicks which were never invited in life to the unmoderated channel and no nicks will receive subsequent invites
[13:38] <Onepamopa> can someone tell me how to order /etc/rcX.d so some daemons are started before others ?
[13:38] <Onepamopa> I need to start something BEFORE everything else
[13:38] <usr13> FAMAS: Wrong channel?
[13:38] <dn`> does anybody know the default “ubuntu kernal install params”?
[13:39] <Onepamopa> dn` it's called kernEl not kernAl
[13:39] <dn`> Onepamopa: it’s a typo ;-)
[13:39] <Onepamopa> dn`, and you can get the default (generic) config from /boot
[13:39] <FAMAS> in reply to user usr13, this user asserts that no channel is the wrong place regarding the action
[13:39] <dn`> Onepamopa: what I need is the exact kernel params ubuntu uses to install, because I think I run otherwise into an mtrr bug
[13:40] <dn`> Onepamopa: let me rephrase - I don’t need to know with which options the kernel was build, I want to know the ‘command line’ options the installer uses while isntalling
[13:41] <Thanzex> hi there everyone! i'm trying to use Ubuntu with VMWare on a Win 10 host, i just installed Ubuntu 16.10 and VMWare tools on the machine, but when i set it to full screen, or whatever resolution other than 800x600 this happens https://s17.postimg.org/ttgp7nhqn/Screenshot_19.png
[13:41] <usr13> helloNL: I suppose it would be hd3,1
[13:41] <usr13> helloNL: But I really don't know for sure.  And not sure why grub can't detect it.
[13:41] <EriC^^> dn`: mount the iso and look in /boot for a config file
[13:41] <dn`> EriC^^: ah, thanks - good idea
[13:42] <Onepamopa> so, can someone tell me how to execute a script in /etc/rcX.d BEFORE ALL other scripts there ?
[13:42] <helloNL> usr13: When I do grub-install /boot/efi/EFI/Boot it does start to do something but it makes a lot of errors
[13:43] <EriC^^> helloNL: what's the problem you're having?
[13:43] <helloNL> I found that this should be able to install the OS if you give it the path usr13 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/KUimnRDy/
[13:44] <usr13> helloNL: You might try booting the install media, (LiveCD), and install boot-repair
[13:44] <Onepamopa> re
[13:44] <usr13> helloNL: http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[13:44] <helloNL> boot-repair made a mess last time, and the OS thought I had installed it twice thanks to it
[13:44] <helloNL> Ubuntu is bootable btw
[13:44] <helloNL> Just Windows no
[13:44] <helloNL> not
[13:44] <EriC^^> helloNL: i might be able to help, what's the problem exactly?
[13:45] <usr13> helloNL: But not sure it would do anything different.... yea, Ubuntu is bootable so just install boot-repair
[13:45] <helloNL> EriC^^: I have a fakeRAID 0 with both Windows and Ubuntu installed on it
[13:45] <helloNL> Now I cant seem to boot into Windows
[13:45] <helloNL> Both are freshly installed
[13:46] <EriC^^> what happens when you try to boot into windows?
[13:46] <usr13> EriC^^: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VAAGHGxo/
[13:46] <usr13> EriC^^: and https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xP5Bsax8/
[13:46] <helloNL> EriC^^: I dont get into the grub menu and so I cant select Windows. Also I found out by digging into the files that it doesnt have any entry for Windows
[13:47] <helloNL> Because it doesnt seem to know that I have also Windows installed, all the efi files are there
[13:47] <EriC^^> helloNL: try sudo os-prober
[13:47] <helloNL> No output
[13:47] <EriC^^> helloNL: pastebin ls -lR /boot/efi
[13:48] <helloNL> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pDupkGbQ/
[13:49] <EriC^^> helloNL: pastebin "cat /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft"
[13:50] <helloNL> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lpfcTzy2/
[13:51] <EriC^^> helloNL: also "ls -l /etc/grub.d"
[13:51] <EriC^^> helloNL: you're booted in uefi mode right now right? (try ls /sys/firmware/efi)
[13:51] <helloNL> Yes I have UEFI mode running in BIOS
[13:52] <helloNL> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/B9V7x1RT/
[13:52] <helloNL> config_table  esrt              fw_vendor  runtime-map  vars
[13:52] <helloNL> efivars       fw_platform_size  runtime    systab
[13:52] <EriC^^> everything looks fine, odd
[13:53] <EriC^^> helloNL: try "grep efi /etc/fstab"
[13:54] <helloNL> Yh but I dont have any partitions on sda and sdc as they are on /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1
[13:54] <helloNL> Because FakeRAID
[13:54] <Thanzex> sorry if someone already answered, my internet disconnected, i write it again:
[13:54] <Thanzex> hi there everyone! i'm trying to use Ubuntu with VMWare on a Win 10 host, i just installed Ubuntu 16.10 and VMWare tools on the machine, but when i set it to full screen, or whatever resolution other than 800x600 this happens https://s17.postimg.org/ttgp7nhqn/Screenshot_19.png
[13:55] <helloNL> EriC^^: /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1p2 /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[13:56] <EriC^^> helloNL: i have no idea, if you can't solve it in the end you can always create your own custom entry for windows
[13:56] <helloNL> Yes I wanted to do that
[13:56] <helloNL> But I cant find out what data to use
[13:57] <Amm0n> helloNL, maybe you installed a BIOS version of grub, try: grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi/EFI/Boot --bootloader-id=ubuntu after purging the installed grub
[13:58] <Amm0n> + os-prober
[13:58] <helloNL> Amm0n: it is the grub that is installed by the cd
[13:58] <helloNL> Its freshly installed
[13:58] <Amm0n> Yes, but it can be installed as BIOS and EFI
[13:59] <EriC^^> try "dpkg -l | grep grub"
[13:59] <helloNL> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/OkkypeMJ/
[13:59] <helloNL> Seems to me as EFI
[14:00] <EriC^^> helloNL: i'll upload the windows entry i have
[14:00] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[14:03] <EriC^^> helloNL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23485649
[14:05] <EriC^^> helloNL: hd0,gpt1 is the efi partition
[14:05] <helloNL> Did you also use Raid?
[14:05] <EriC^^> no
[14:05] <EriC^^> i think it would be hd0,gpt2 in your case
[14:08] <frankiee_> Hi! So, it seems I have to revert to Xubuntu 12.04 due to my non-PAE CPU (Intel Celeron M 1.40GHz). If I simply do a `do-release-upgrade` after this, will I get the latest version of Xfce, audio/video codecs etc.? Or should I run some apt-get update all kinda of feature? Sorry I'm very new to this.
[14:09] <Amm0n> helloNL, i think you've defined the wrong EFI directory, to find windows too it has to be /boot/efi/EFI, now grub only looks inside /boot/efi/EFI/Boot
[14:10] <helloNL> Doesnt really matter Amm0n I tried all possible combos XP
[14:11] <helloNL> I even did just do /boot
[14:11] <Amm0n> with os-prober installed?
[14:12] <EriC^> helloNL: maybe "set -x; sudo os-prober" might show something?
[14:12] <helloNL> I am now running boot-repair
[14:20] <de-facto> damn, how can i use an usb stick that is confused by that weird ubuntu iso layout? i just want to erase it, but neither gparted nor dd want to write to it
[14:21] <de-facto> i did "dd" the iso to it, that was a bad choice i guess
[14:21] <helloNL> EriC^: Amm0n usr13 I am giving up, now only Windows is booting...
[14:21] <EriC^> de-facto: create a fresh partition table on it
[14:21] <de-facto> yeah how?
[14:21] <momomo> anyone else experiencing that libreoffice is terribly slow?
[14:21] <de-facto> gparted wont let me, dd refuses to write to it
[14:21] <EriC^> helloNL: lol, that's funny, does os-prober show anything now?
[14:21] <EriC^> helloNL: what did the boot-repair log have to say?
[14:21] <helloNL> I cant boot Linux xD
[14:22] <EriC^> de-facto: do you want a msdos or gpt partition table?
[14:22] <helloNL> Well I had the GRUB menu for a second
[14:22] <helloNL> So I chose Windows, and now it always boots that
[14:22] <de-facto> msdos
[14:22] <EriC^> helloNL: windows might have reset the efi list
[14:23] <helloNL> It also thinks Ubuntu is installed twice atm
[14:23] <EriC^> de-facto: sudo fdisk /dev/sdX , then press "o" then "w"
[14:23] <EriC^> helloNL: which laptop model is it?
[14:23] <helloNL> Shitty MSI
[14:23] <helloNL> MSI GE70 2OE 012NL
[14:23] <EriC^> why shitty?
[14:24] <helloNL> Support is shit
[14:24] <EriC^> oh
[14:24] <helloNL> Laptop is not even 2 years old and I cant even get support anymore
[14:24] <EriC^> are you able to get back into ubuntu now?
[14:24] <de-facto> EriC^ thanks i managed to talk gparted into writing to it with refreshing devices, after many many errors it wrote a msdos table to it, then i did it again without errors, so i guess its fine now
[14:25] <EriC^> de-facto: cool
[14:25] <de-facto> the kernel seems to get seriously confused by the layout of the ubuntu livecd iso layout
[14:25] <helloNL> I am not, when I select ubuntu Volume1 on my bios boot menu I boot into Windows
[14:25] <helloNL> Seems also that Windows is broken o.o
[14:26] <EriC^> boot a live usb
[14:26] <EriC^> i wonder what boot-repair did, it usually reinstalls the grub packages as a start i think
[14:31] <dn> why the /etc/init.d/networin restart is not working ?
[14:31] <dn> always tell me that the job is running
[14:31] <dn> can't not stop
[14:31] <mg983> hey all, I keep getting randomly `W: GPG error: http://www.apache.org 34x InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 749D6EEC0353B12C `
[14:31] <mg983> and a bunch of others
[14:31] <mg983> when running apt-get
[14:32] <mg983> update*
[14:32] <dn> mg983, use "apt-key"
[14:33] <mg983> apt-key add 749D6EEC0353B12C
[14:33] <mg983> wrong window :\
[14:34] <dn> mg983, use "apt-key -adv  key  --keyserver key.ubuntu.com"
[14:35] <mg983> dn`: what would the key be in this circumstance, sudo apt-key -adv  749D6EEC0353B12C  --keyserver key.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to work, I get back usage information
[14:37] <freakyy> what is a good editor (like gedit) but has highlighting functions?
[14:37] <freakyy> *syntax highlighting
[14:37] <EriC^> freakyy: try geany
[14:38] <dn> mg983, I dont kown how to make it work,but something like that , you can google
[14:38] <mg983> thx
[14:38] <dn> mg983,u r welcome
[14:38] <malvane> Hi, what is the best way (policy) in requesting a package to be updated to a newer version? Bug report?
[14:39] <freakyy> i dont want an ide EriC^  i want just an editor
[14:39] <freakyy> like notepad++
[14:39] <EriC^> freakyy: maybe you can install syntax highlighting on gedit
[14:39] <freakyy> ok wait
[14:39] <malvane> freakyy: gedit is similar to notepad++
[14:39] <EriC^> freakyy: you mean syntax completion right?
[14:40] <mg983> what would cause `Size of file /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages.gz is not what the server reported 4015 5082` messages when doing apt-get update,e tc
[14:40] <freakyy> no just syntax highlighting
[14:40] <freakyy> so when i paste something in
[14:40] <freakyy> and want to edit it
[14:40] <freakyy> like config files
[14:40] <freakyy> i have some syntax highlighting
[14:41] <EriC^> freakyy: gedit already has that, it's at the bottom, unless you mean something else
[14:41] <freakyy> ok thanks
[14:41] <EriC^> it's the arrow that says Plain text by default
[14:42] <freakyy> yea i saw
[14:42] <freakyy> thanks :D
[14:42] <dn> mg983 do you know why networking is not normal in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[14:42] <EriC^> no problem
[14:42] <tim_____> hello everyone
[14:42] <EriC^> hi
[14:43] <mg983> dn`: no, go on
[14:43] <mg983> seems like it's a circleci issue
[14:44] <mg983> thanks obama
[14:44] <tim_____> I have a strange problem. My browser(s) Chrome and FF freeze my laptop (Ubuntu 16.04) when I use them for 10-15 minutes. I don't really know where to start looking for the problem. Any suggestions?
[14:45] <EriC^> tim_____: check "dmesg" in the terminal after it happens for any clues
[14:45] <EriC^> tim_____: also starting them from the terminal might show any errors there
[14:46] <tim_____> like directly after it happens? I can't do that, because the machine gets totally inresponsive and I need to hard-reset it. Can't even ssh into it :/
[14:51] <Kiryat8_> could you be out of ram memory and no swap or could it be thermal shutdown?
[14:52] <kalbhair1va> hii
[14:52] <EriC^^> tim_____: did you try a memtest?
[14:53] <tim_____> @Kiryat8_ My ram and swap seem to be sufficient (from what the monitoring panel on my Desktop says). Did not check thermal. Are there logfiles for thermal?
[14:53] <tim_____> @EriC^^ no, not yet. Is there a way to do a memtest on a running system? Only did it once from a recovery shell or something like that
[14:56] <Amm0n> helloNL, another option you have is to use systemd-boot
[14:58] <helloNL> What is that?
[14:58] <helloNL> Because I think I'll just have to give up /
[14:58] <helloNL> :/
[14:59] <helloNL> I am trying this shit already for 3 days...
[14:59] <Amm0n> helloNL, it's systemd's integrated bootloader
[14:59] <EriC^^> helloNL: boot a live usb to see what's what now
[14:59] <OnkelTem> Hi
[15:00] <OnkelTem> How to install language in LibreOffice?
[15:00] <helloNL> I am on a live usb, but cant seem to install boot-repair again
[15:00] <EriC^^> helloNL: pastebin ls -lR /boot/efi
[15:00] <EriC^^> also try sudo os-prober now just to see what happens
[15:00] <OnkelTem> Russian is just missed there for some weird reason (My system locale is Russian and UI is on Russian)
[15:01] <helloNL> os prober only finds ubuntu EriC^^
[15:01] <EriC^^> ok, try "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[15:01] <helloNL> I can't access it
[15:01] <helloNL> Do I need to do stuff firsT?
[15:01] <EriC^^> maybe boot-repair added a bunch of stuff in 40_custom
[15:02] <EriC^^> helloNL: yeah, mount the linux partition first
[15:02] <\9> OnkelTem: probably need a language package
[15:02] <helloNL> I am not that known with Linux :P
[15:03] <EriC^^> helloNL: ok, type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:03] <\9> OnkelTem: libreoffice-l10n-ru
[15:04] <EriC^^> it'll give you a link to it pasted and everything, copy the link here
[15:04] <OnkelTem> \9: thanks, I'll try
[15:05] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/cbk9 it also said invalid argument dureing seek for read in /dev/sda
[15:05] <c1pher> do you guys know anything about the latest version of ubuntu?
[15:06] <c1pher> what about unity 8?
[15:06] <EriC^^> helloNL: oh, it made an error, try "lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:06] <EriC^^> c1pher: it's under development i guess
[15:06] <EriC^^> !unity8
[15:06] <WMBO> hello
[15:06] <WMBO> hey
[15:06] <tim___> hi WMBO
[15:07] <WMBO> whcihc cleint u use?
[15:07] <c1pher> great want to have a try
[15:08] <tim___> @EriC^^ did you mean the GRUB memtest?
[15:08] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/88v7
[15:08] <EriC^^> tim___: yes
[15:09] <tim___> @EriC^^ alright, I will do that tonight then and hope for the best.
[15:09] <OnkelTem> \9: Thanks! Works
[15:10] <EriC^^> helloNL: try sudo mount /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1-part6 /mnt
[15:11] <EriC^^> tim___: ok, sounds good
[15:11] <helloNL> I did EriC^^
[15:11] <helloNL> It worked
[15:12] <EriC^^> helloNL: ok, type "cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:12] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/s4co
[15:12] <c1pher> hi
[15:13] <EriC^^> c1pher: which ubuntu version do you have?
[15:13] <dn> c1pher hi
[15:13] <dn> 14.04 LTS
[15:13] <c1pher> sorry for laptop rebooting, actually i use manjaro linux which is based on archlinux with a xfce desktop
[15:13] <EriC^^> helloNL: ok, boot-repair created a bunch of custom entries for windows
[15:14] <helloNL> Yes and also some extra for Ubuntu
[15:14] <helloNL> So now I have 2 entries for Ubuntu :/
[15:14] <c1pher> i chose manjaro cause of rolling update
[15:14] <EriC^^> helloNL: try sudo apt-get install efibootmgr && sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:15] <EriC^^> helloNL: some bios can be tricky and windows as well, they try to reset the uefi list on reboots so windows keeps getting booted
[15:15] <c1pher> seems the latest ubuntu changes it apt-get command to apt command
[15:16] <c1pher> replace apt-get with apt command
[15:16] <c1pher> just type 'apt install' is ok
[15:16] <EriC^^> windows might have done that when you rebooted, a nice workaround is to trick the bios into thinking it's booting windows every time by switching the names of the ubuntu and windows efi files
[15:16] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/ecvb
[15:16] <EriC^^> c1pher: yeah that's true
[15:17] <EriC^^> c1pher: if you want to test unity8, 16.10 has it by default
[15:17] <c1pher> ok ,i will try it in virtualbox
[15:18] <c1pher> jsut want to experience the latest unity desktop to find what changes
[15:18] <EriC^^> helloNL: nope, ubuntu is still first in the boot order
[15:18] <c1pher> efi boot problem?
[15:19] <EriC^^> initially ubuntu wouldn't pick up the windows efi file, after boot-repair it suddenly is booting just windows now
[15:20] <EriC^^> helloNL: try sudo mount /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1-part2 /mnt/boot/efi
[15:20] <c1pher> because the windows overwrites the efi partition?
[15:20] <helloNL> I am trying to install boot-repair so it can fix the stuff
[15:20] <helloNL> But I cant seem to install it after adding the ppa
[15:20] <EriC^^> yeah, he said he got a grub menu at first, then he chose windows and it booted then grub was gone
[15:21] <dn> helloNL grub must support efi
[15:21] <usr13> helloNL: What error do you get?
[15:21] <helloNL> No errors :D
[15:21] <helloNL> Or do you mean for installing boot repair on the live cd?
[15:21] <helloNL> Because it can locate it and I get error connecting to the ppa
[15:21] <helloNL> cant*
[15:22] <usr13> helloNL: Do you have an internet connection?
[15:23] <usr13> helloNL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:24] <helloNL> Yes I have an internet connectionb
[15:24] <usr13> helloNL: Did you add the ppa?
[15:24] <helloNL> Else adding wouldnt happen
[15:24] <usr13> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[15:24] <helloNL> Yes did do that
[15:25] <usr13> helloNL: sudo apt-get update
[15:25] <shubjero> Does anyone know where I might be able to find a changelog or release note for Ubuntu daily build cloud images? https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/
[15:25] <helloNL> I added it again and now it doesnt talk about PGP issues
[15:31] <EriC^^> helloNL: if you want switching the files would get it working probably
[15:33] <helloNL> http://paste2.org/lKhD5Vbz Great now I can only boot into ubuntu xD
[15:33] <EriC^^> link doesn't exit
[15:33] <helloNL> Typo it seems
[15:33] <EriC^^> *exist
[15:33] <helloNL> http://paste2.org/IKhD5Vbz
[15:34] <usr13> helloNL: termbin.com
[15:34] <helloNL> This one is auto generated usr13
[15:35] <usr13> helloNL: Has anyone asked  you yet if;  After the initial MS Windows install, were you able to boot to it ok?
[15:36] <helloNL> No, as it didnt have a grub entry
[15:36] <usr13> helloNL: Did you do the MS Windows install first?  (And then the Ubuntu install?)
[15:36] <helloNL> Yes first Windows
[15:36] <usr13> helloNL: And you were never able to boot into MS Windows after the install.  Correct?
[15:36] <Amm0n> helloNL, did you disable Fast Boot in Windows?
[15:37] <helloNL> It was a standard Windows Install so I havent done anything
[15:37] <ioria> looks like fakeraid it's a pain with efi, and it's suggested to use bios legacy (also for installing, both win and ubu) :"16.a Disable EFI-Settings - Disabling EFI and choosing "legacy only" avoids the hassle to configure an EFI Partition (in Windows as well as Linux)"
[15:37] <helloNL> After installing Windows I could boot Windows, After installing Ubuntu I couldn't as it couldnt see my Windows install
[15:37] <helloNL> So it never registered it in GRub
[15:38] <usr13> helloNL: As ioria points out, legacy is best bet.  It's what I always do.
[15:38] <EriC^^> helloNL: let's try to switch the files and whatnot, what do you say?
[15:38] <helloNL> After doing Legacy do I have to reinstall?
[15:39] <usr13> no
[15:39] <ioria> helloNL, 'hassle' does not mean impossible...
[15:39] <usr13> helloNL: But that is what you should have done in the first place.
[15:39] <helloNL> Well for me with no good knowledge of Linux it is impossible for me
[15:40] <EriC^^> helloNL: i can almost assure you it would work
[15:40] <helloNL> Well just tell me what to do and I'll folow blindly
[15:40] <usr13> helloNL: Hard maybe, but not impossible.
[15:40] <helloNL> Even if that is removing system32 :P
[15:40] <EriC^^> helloNL: ok :D
[15:40] <usr13> helloNL: Not everyone is born into this world with extensive knowledge about Linux. :)
[15:41] <helloNL> Well I know the basics of the command line
[15:41] <helloNL> I dont know how to configure shit
[15:41] <EriC^^> helloNL: type sudo mount /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1part6 /mnt
[15:41] <helloNL> I am currently in ubuntu again
[15:41] <EriC^^> aha great
[15:41] <EriC^^> nevermind that command then
[15:41] <helloNL> Boot-repair made ubuntu only
[15:41] <helloNL> Xd
[15:41] <helloNL> I dont get that program anymore
[15:42] <EriC^^> helloNL: type "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:42] <Amm0n> helloNL, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#General_principles disable Fast Boot in windows, it can mess with your FS if you mount it between OS'S
[15:42] <usr13> helloNL: And share with us the resulting URL.
[15:43] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/zygw
[15:43] <florian> Hallo
[15:44] <EriC^^> helloNL: ubuntu's efi files are gone now :D
[15:45] <ioria> /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu: it's empty ?
[15:45] <EriC^^> the real mystery is how is it booting to ubuntu now
[15:45] <EriC^^> ioria: yes, and the windows file is the original bootmgfw.efi
[15:45] <ioria> EriC^^, oh....
[15:45] <tim___> >/join ##c++-basic
[15:45] <tim___> sorry
[15:46] <EriC^^> helloNL: sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:46] <Pharaoh> Looks like ubuntu just released graphics driver updates for 16.10
[15:47] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/zm5e
[15:48] <EriC^^> helloNL: ok, np, try "sudo grub-install"
[15:50] <helloNL> error cannot open /.boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi' input output error
[15:50] <lefthanded> Hello guys! What is "proccess" called that happens underneath the blootsplash?
[15:51] <frankiee_> while we're on the topic have you guys seen openbsd's improvement of sudo? it's called "doas"
[15:51] <EriC^^> helloNL: hmm
[15:51] <EriC^^> try sudo umount /boot/efi
[15:51] <frankiee_> not to mention their improvement of openssl (libressl), postfix (opensmtpd), apache/nginx (httpd) etc. etc.
[15:51] <helloNL> I think I'll just set it to legacy mode and start reinstalling the stuff
[15:51] <pac_> hi
[15:52] <sssuiiioii> bonjour
[15:52] <EriC^^> helloNL: you have to reinstall both os, or convert them
[15:52] <sssuiiioii> mais j'ai dis bonjour
[15:52] <EriC^^> !fr | sssuiiioii
[15:52] <sssuiiioii> y a quelqu'un
[15:53] <frankiee_> cool you can do that?
[15:53] <frankiee_> !my | sssuiiioii
[15:53] <sssuiiioii> cool i speak also in english
[15:53] <frankiee_> !is | sssuiiioii
[15:53] <EriC^^> frankiee_: it's not a toy :D
 Sorry, I don't know anything about is
[15:53] <EriC^^> !msgthebot | frankiee_
[15:54] <frankiee_> can i try one last time?
[15:54] <sssuiiioii> i can't install scipy on my ubuntu
[15:54] <frankiee_> !no | sssuiiioii
[15:54] <sssuiiioii> any one have ideas
[15:54] <frankiee_> Ok, at least that worked.
[15:54] <frankiee_> It should be "norsk" and not "Norsk" though
[15:54] <EriC^^> !info scipy
[15:54] <EriC^^> sssuiiioii: what's scipy?
[15:54] <frankiee_> Is there a way to edit?
[15:54] <sssuiiioii> yes please
[15:55] <usr13> EriC^^: helloNL How about MS Windows in Virtualbox?
[15:55] <sssuiiioii> it 's scientific library used in python for natural language procesing
[15:55] <helloNL> I'd like to casually play a game usr13 so that is not really that great of a solution
[15:55] <ouroumov_> sssuiiioii, I assume you tried: sudo apt-get install python-numpy python-scipy python-matplotlib ipython ipython-notebook python-pandas python-sympy python-nose
[15:55] <ouroumov_> ?
[15:55] <usr13> virtualbox | helloNL
[15:56] <sssuiiioii> ah ok
[15:56] <usr13> helloNL: Ok, well, just a suggestion/option....
[15:56] <sssuiiioii> i figured now that i didn't have the sudo privilege thanks dudes
[15:56] <helloNL> Yh, wish that would work for me usr13
[15:56] <ouroumov_> sssuiiioii, in that case contact your administrator and request he install the packages.
[15:57] <sssuiiioii> yes in my universitie it takes
[15:58] <sssuiiioii> a lot of time
[15:58] <sssuiiioii> to install those tricks
[15:58] <Pharaoh> I just saw auto graphics updates for 16.10 but installation failed.. fglx-core, amdgpu, everything..
[15:58] <usr13> helloNL: Are you sure your game will not work in a VM?
[15:58] <helloNL> Performance loss :P
[15:58] <sssuiiioii> yes games does not install on VM
[15:59] <sssuiiioii> but you can install steam os on it
[15:59] <usr13> helloNL: Yea, steam....
[16:00] <EriC^^> helloNL: running umount on the efi partition won't harm anything
[16:00] <usr13> I must say tho, I'm not a gamer.  I've just never needed to amuse myself in that way. Real life amuses me plenty.
[16:01] <helloNL> Well I think that the OS are already corrupted EriC^^ So I'd rather start again in the right mode
[16:01] <usr13> good idea
[16:01] <Amm0n> Pharaoh, if you didn't change your graphics card since yesterday, there is no other driver for your card than radeon, amd made them opensource
[16:01] <EriC^^> helloNL: fwiw it's not really "the right mode"
[16:02] <usr13> there are right and left modes
[16:02] <EriC^^> :D
[16:02] <Amm0n> Pharaoh, do you have problems with the radeon driver?
[16:03] <EriC^^> helloNL: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[16:03] <Pharaoh> Amm0n: i have the latest version of radeon  (xserver-xorg-video-radeon) etc. Yet, I have broken graphics. I just saw a warning that I am using software acceleration and not hardware acc. I get a blank screen if i don't use nomodeset
[16:03] <Pharaoh> Amm0n: most likely
[16:03] <usr13> EriC^^: Whois X?
[16:04] <usr13> sorry, my sense of humor has gotten the best of me.
[16:04] <Amm0n> Pharaoh, can you paste dmesg pls: dmesg |& nc termbin.com 9999
[16:06] <Pharaoh> Amm0n: nc as in netcat?
[16:06] <Amm0n> Pharaoh, the radeon driver doesn't work with nomodeset
[16:06] <Amm0n> yes
[16:06] <Pharaoh> Amm0n: I thought so. The screen comes up blank with nomodeset - how do I get out of this?
[16:07] <Amm0n> hit strg+alt+F2 to switch to another tty
[16:08] <EriC^^> helloNL: input output errors are hdd health errors usually
[16:08] <EriC^^> helloNL: try running a smart test to make sure they're ok
[16:08] <usr13> Pharaoh: From the grub menu, edit the kernel line to do away with nomodeset
[16:10] <usr13> Pharaoh: Remove the word nomodeset and Ctrl-x to boot  (I think it's Ctrl-x, right?)
[16:10] <Pharaoh> usr13: Yes, that's how it was initially. But it gave me black screen upon start up. I then have to do ctrl-alt-f1, log in
[16:10] <Pharaoh> user13 : Yes
[16:10] <Pharaoh> usr13: Yes
[16:11] <usr13> Pharaoh: to get to grub screen, hit/hold Shift right after spash screen, (or maybe even before).
[16:12] <Pharaoh> usr13: simply pressing e goes into grub where I can remove / add nomodeset and do a ctrl-x
[16:12] <usr13> Pharaoh: Ok, you already know.  Good.
[16:13] <Pharaoh> usr13: the problem comes later. Without nomodeset, nothing works - I get a black screen, ctrl-alt-f1 takes me to shell mode and that's it
[16:14] <usr13> Pharaoh: Oh, ok.  Well, is the login manager not running?
[16:14] <usr13> Pharaoh: lightdm ?
[16:14] <Pharaoh> usr13: the problem is AMD drivers don't work with my card, I have to bypass that using nomodeset to at least get some graphics
[16:14] <usr13> Pharaoh: Which one do you use?
[16:14] <usr13> Oh...
[16:15] <usr13> Pharaoh: Do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[16:16] <Pharaoh> usr13: strange, no. I do have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[16:16] <usr13> Pharaoh: Try using it.  (is that the only one?)
[16:17] <usr13> Pharaoh: Did it work before?  (Maybe under different kernel?)
[16:17] <Pharaoh> usr13: never worked with 16.10
[16:17] <husein> hi every body
[16:17] <usr13> Pharaoh: If so, maybe you just need to dpkg-reconfigure it.
[16:17] <usr13> Ok, never mind.
[16:18] <stan_man_can> is it safe to use SSH over a public wifi?
[16:18] <usr13> Pharaoh: Try:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:19] <husein> i have a problem with pptp i get this error: the vpn connection "myconnection" disconnected becuase the vpn service stoped
[16:19] <Pharaoh> usr13: done. next step .. sudo service lightdm restart?
[16:19] <usr13> stan_man_can: Well, it's not like ftp, (that's why it's called secure shell).
[16:19] <usr13> Pharaoh: Yea
[16:19] <usr13> Pharaoh: Well, I don't think that command works any more.
[16:20] <usr13> Phanes: systemctl lightdm stop && systemctl ligghtdm start
[16:20] <stan_man_can> so what _is_ vulnerable when you’re on a public wifi? non secure connects? aka HTTP/FTP ?
[16:20] <usr13> Phanes: Or just restart
[16:21] <usr13> Pharaoh: systemctl lightdm stop && systemctl ligghtdm start   Or just restart
[16:21] <usr13> sorry Phanes, wrong nic
[16:21] <usr13> Pharaoh: You need to preface that with sudo
[16:21] <Pharaoh> usr13: restarted now without nomodeset, seems better now
[16:21] <husein> please someone help me
[16:22] <husein> i have a problem with pptp i get this error: the vpn connection "myconnection" disconnected becuase the vpn service
[16:22] <usr13> Pharaoh: Okeydokey.  Maybe you should just make it permanent.
[16:24] <Pharaoh> usr13: thanks a lot. The real issue was the missing xorg.conf, I will apply updates to grub..🍸
[16:25] <usr13> Yes
[16:25] <usr13> Pharaoh: Well, the xorg.conf file should have been generated with the install of the radeon driver.  (That is what I assume...)
[16:26] <usr13> Pharaoh: And if done properly, you should have hardware acceleration
[16:27] <Amm0n> usually radeon doesn't need xorg.conf, unless you need options
[16:27] <Pharaoh> usr13: is there a command to generate xorg.conf, I got some error dialogs on logging in?
[16:27] <usr13> Pharaoh: Ok, there you go. Thanks for correction Amm0n
[16:28] <usr13> Amm0n: But may be that some chips require xorg.conf (maybe some of them are not so easily detected).
[16:30] <Amm0n> usr13, yes it's seems that Pharaoh's card needs some extras
[16:31] <usr13> Amm0n: Pharaoh https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[16:31] <Pharaoh> Amm0n, usr13 : I have an amd Radeon hd 6950
[16:31] <Pharaoh> Thanks for the link!
[16:33] <usr13> "Removing the proprietary fglrx driver" ?
[16:34] <SonikkuAmerica> usr13: fglrx is no longer
[16:34] <SonikkuAmerica> use AMDGPU instead.
[16:35] <usr13> SonikkuAmerica: But is Pharaoh on a system that was upgraded from earler version of Ubuntu?
[16:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Perhaps
[16:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Pharaoh: Did you upgrade from an earlier release?
[16:36] <Pharaoh> usr13: I did a fresh install-16.10
[16:36] <usr13> Pharaoh: Ok, never mind that part then...
[16:36] <Pharaoh> SonikkuAmerica: fresh install 16.10
[16:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh OK
[16:37] <usr13> Pharaoh: Only thing is, it says that this information is for lts
[16:37] <SonikkuAmerica> But yeah, you'll need xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu and either the "radeon" or "radeonsi" driver going forward.
[16:37] <usr13> Pharaoh: So not even sure the open driver will work on 16.10
[16:38] <Pharaoh> usr13: current setup seems to work well.
[16:49] <MotherMGA> Ubuntu 16.04 has Chromium 53 in its repositories, which is currently broken due to ERR_CERTIFICATE_TRANSPARENCY_REQUIRED. Is there a workaround?
[16:51] <elias_a> MotherMGA: More information: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=664177
[16:51] <elias_a> MotherMGA: Symantec advisory: https://knowledge.symantec.com/support/ssl-certificates-support/index?page=content&id=ALERT2160
[16:53] <Quicken2K> I can't download from the software center, wants a username or pass. I enter my Ubuntu One account and still can't log on
[16:53] <MotherMGA> elias_a: thanks for the links, but it says "upgrade". I can't find a PPA for an updated chromium. is there a trick?
[16:54] <gamester> Just downloaded vim-gtk3. Anytime I run it and try to open a file it crashes. Good job. (Fresh install of 16.10 here)
[16:55] <brainwash> MotherMGA: try https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage
[16:55] <MotherMGA> brainwash: thank you
[16:56] <nacc> gamester: so you run `gvim`?
[16:56] <nacc> gamester: i just tried that and it worked fine
[16:56] <gamester> yes
[16:56] <nacc> gamester: does the 'crash' report anything? (check dmesg, and journalctl)
[16:56] <gamester> some kind of gtk error, but I've now installed vim-gtk and it works
[16:57] <nacc> gamester: so what did you mean earlier when you said "downloaded vim-gtk3" ?
[16:57] <gamester> vim-gtk3 != vim-gtk
[16:57] <gamester> vim-gtk is gtk2
[16:57] <gamester> uses
[16:58] <nacc> gamester: i do not have vim-gtk installed and gvim works fine
[16:59] <anonvan94> hi guys, just want a little help here
[16:59] <anonvan94> can't install any apps in my ubuntu
[17:00] <nacc> anonvan94: using which tool?
[17:00] <anonvan94> I try apt-get update but still the same
[17:00] <anonvan94> terminal
[17:00] <nacc> anonvan94: please pastebin the exact command and output that you think is an issue
[17:00] <nacc> !pastebin | anonvan94
[17:01] <anonvan94> ubottu: thanks
[17:01] <anonvan94> really?
[17:02] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:02] <nacc> anonvan94: yes, i asked ubottu to direct the help text to you
[17:02] <gamester> nacc: https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/1130
[17:02] <tejasmanohar> anyone have ubuntu 16.10 on GCE?
[17:02] <tejasmanohar> (need the kernel update)
[17:03] <nacc> gamester: vim 8.0 is not in any ubuntu
[17:03] <tcorneli> how do you enable auto login on ubuntu 16.04 from cli?
[17:03] <anonvan94> nacc: thanks mate,
[17:03] <gamester> Those are the errors I got
[17:03] <nacc> gamester: ah i see, it's a unity issue
[17:03] <nacc> gamester: I don't use unity, hence don't see it
[17:03] <EriC^^> tcorneli: why from cli?
[17:03] <nacc> gamester: LP: #1611363 is the real issue
[17:04] <tcorneli> because i want to enable it remotely
[17:05] <anonvan94> nacc: When I try to install any app for example I install filezilla. It doesn't install, this is the error I always get. please check this snippet. http://pastebin.com/JzDk3kYB
[17:06] <tcorneli> EriC^^: nevermind, i was able to use the gui
[17:06] <anonvan94> This only happen after I bring my pc here in other house, I using different connection. I think about connection? what you think?
[17:06] <nacc> anonvan94: that seems to be indicating that apt-get can't reach the network
[17:06] <EriC^^> tcorneli: ok :)
[17:06] <anonvan94> nacc: yes
[17:06] <helloNL> Creating a Legacy RAID 0 drive, what is the best strip size?
[17:07] <nacc> anonvan94: can you pastebin the output of `apt-get update` ?
[17:07] <hhee> guys, how can i set locale system wide?
[17:07] <anonvan94> nacc: internet problem? speed problem?
[17:07] <hhee> not for one user
[17:09] <anonvan94> nacc: okay wait
[17:10] <gerry_> HI
[17:10] <EriC^^> hi
[17:11] <anonvan94> nacc: here is it http://pastebin.com/ByBg75qW
[17:12] <anonvan94> nacc: I already restart my pc many times but still the same
[17:15] <no_gravity> Chromium on Ubuntu has been unusable for days now because of the SSL bug. Google fixed it already. Why is it not pushed forward?
[17:15] <usr13> locale > hhee
[17:15] <usr13> !locale > hhee
[17:16] <nacc> anonvan94: ok, are you sure 'ph.archive.ubuntu.com' is actually up? I'm not able to reach it either. Maybe try a different mirror?
[17:16] <hhee> usr13, thx
[17:21] <anonvan94> nacc: hey mate, sorry for late response my xchat got crash
[17:21] <anonvan94> you still there?
[17:21] <nacc> anonvan94: sure
[17:22] <anonvan94> the last message I send was this
[17:22] <anonvan94> http://pastebin.com/ByBg75qW
[17:22] <anonvan94> nacc: that's the result of apt-get update
[17:22] <nacc> anonvan94: ok, are you sure 'ph.archive.ubuntu.com' is actually up? I'm not able to reach it either. Maybe try a different mirror?
[17:23] <anonvan94> nacc: I think so also
[17:23] <anonvan94> how to change mirror?
[17:25] <rmac> Hi! I'm looking for some help with rtcwake on a 16.04 server. Ever since I moved my hardware to a new case rtcwake puts the machine into S4 sleep (to disk) but doesn't wake at the appropriate time. Any suggestions?
[17:26] <usr13> anonvan94: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[17:26] <anonvan94> nacc: thanks mate, Ill try it
[17:31] <elodinn> Hi there
[17:32] <elodinn> Sometimes -- but only sometimes -- when I press Alt+K my window manager is killed
[17:32] <elodinn> does anyone know how I can debug this?
[17:32] <elodinn> is it a bug in the window manager?
[17:39] <anonvan94> nacc: Hey mate, it now works. You're right, our country's server maybe down thats why. Thank you so much again.
[17:41] <davor> hello. what's the state of fglrx on yakkety? is it coming to the repos anytime soon?
[17:42] <simosx> davor, no fglrx for 16.04 OR newer versions. It is superseeded by amggpu. If the stock amdgpu is not good for you you, you can use the AMDGPU PRO from AMD.
[17:44] <nacc> anonvan94: np
[17:49] <davor> thanks simosx. my gpu isn't supported by amdgpu pro, though I'm having trouble finding a list of supported gpus for amdgpu, specifically whether southern islands/pitcairn is supported
[17:49] <davor> mine is hd7870 specifically
[17:55] <davor> hm, seems the radeon driver is my only option
[17:55] <usr13> davor: correct
[18:14] <jay_>  /nick m00nkn1ght
[18:25] <allamoox> Hello
[18:26] <allamoox> which C# compiler can I use in ubuntu last version?
[18:26] <allamoox> mono-gmc?
[18:26] <allamoox> or
[18:28] <grant-h> Hi all, when installing python with apt what is the difference between `python` and `python-dev`
[18:29] <zartarr> man installing cura on ubuntu is pita
[18:30] <zartarr> i've had to use a windows machine just to use a darn 3d printer
[18:39] <sysmgmt> Hello, im having some issues, using ubuntu 16.04 on Lenovo Ideapad 310 - The issues im having, is whenever i try to connect / authenticate against any type of wireless connection
[18:39] <sysmgmt> anyone know what i may do? i have tried following this thread here http://askubuntu.com/questions/806097/ubuntu-16-04-wifi-connection-issues-connected-with-packet-loss/808519
[18:40] <sysmgmt> 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042 (rev 30)
[18:40] <CngzTur> Hey
[18:40] <raub> Which program for screen capture comes with ubuntu desktop?
[18:41] <sysmgmt> raub: gnome-screenshot
[18:41] <raub> sysmgmt: thanks!
[18:42] <sysmgmt> Having, issues using my wireless NIC on ubuntu 16.04 anyone with any idea regarding e.g firmware & drivers?
[18:42] <sysmgmt> dmesq |grep ath   ?
[18:42] <Sorch> sysmgmt, what kind of issues?
[18:43] <sysmgmt> Sorch: mesg |grep ath
[18:43] <sysmgmt> [    3.888830] ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: pci irq msi-x interrupts 8 irq_mode 0 reset_mode 0
[18:43] <sysmgmt> [    4.146972] ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: Direct firmware load for ath10k/cal-pci-0000:02:00.0.bin failed with error -2
[18:43] <sysmgmt> [    6.061418] ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: qca9377 hw1.0 (0x05020000, 0x003820ff sub 17aa:4035) fw WLAN.TF.1.0-00267-1 fwapi 5 bdapi 2 htt-ver 3.1 wmi-op 4 htt-op 3 cal otp max-sta 32 raw 0 hwcrypto 1 features ignore-otp
[18:44] <Sorch> hmmm
[18:44] <sysmgmt> Sorch: *Major issues, with included wireless nic drivers/firmware for ubuntu 16.04 in combination with Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042 (rev 30)
[18:45] <sysmgmt> Sorch: i tried to follow this guide here, without results http://askubuntu.com/questions/806097/ubuntu-16-04-wifi-connection-issues-connected-with-packet-loss/808519
[18:45] <Sorch> sysmgmt, http://askubuntu.com/questions/607707/ath10k-installation ?
[18:45] <sysmgmt> Sorch: one moment, will check it now
[18:46] <sysmgmt> Sorch: for example, they refer to this file here linux-firmware_1.157.2_all.deb
[18:46] <sysmgmt> i already downloaded linux-firmware                                       1.158                                                all          Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
[18:48] <Sorch> sysmgmt, did you reboot?
[18:48] <Sorch> after installing the firmware?
[18:48] <anonvan94> ##centos
[18:48] <sysmgmt> Sorch: hang on, i will use theese as a source instead
[18:48] <sysmgmt> Sorch: i did this yesterday without successful results unfortunatly
[18:48] <sysmgmt> Sorch: im using theese .deb packages here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/1.157.2/+build/10164992
[18:49] <ioria> sysmgmt,  xenial is 57, yakkety 61  where did you take 58 ?
[18:49] <Sorch> sudo apt install linux-firmware ?
[18:49] <ioria> ah, ok
[18:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[18:52] <elias_a> Deja Dup users: have you bumped into g-io-error-quark -errors? https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+bug/1600299
[18:53] <sysmgmt> Sorch: Yeah exactly
[18:53] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch: i did fetch it from this post over here http://askubuntu.com/questions/607707/ath10k-installation
[18:53] <Sorch> the wifi adapter just isn't working?
[18:53] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch so right now, what i did was to totally delete old linux-firmware, and install 57 for xenial i have not reboot yet
[18:54] <sysmgmt> Sorch: exactly, it just isnt authenticating (or has not been able to) depending on firmware / ndiswrapper - driver i guess
[18:54] <ioria> sysmgmt,  i see
[18:54] <Sorch> oh i've had that issue before
[18:54] <sysmgmt> ioria: give me, 3 minutes i will reboot and get back in here, and togheter i will send output/debug log files and lsmod
[18:54] <Sorch> i manually edited the wifi connected and added the key and it worked fine..
[18:55] <Rook1> Hey.
[18:55] <sysmgmt> Sorch: cool, tell me more in 2 min i will reboot now brb
[18:55] <Rook1> I need some help with guest accounts.
[18:58] <blabladog> Hi
[18:59] <Dynetrekk> hi, created a raid-0 btrfs volume over 2 spinning rust disks, but no performance improvement shown when running hdparm -tT /dev/sdb (/dev/sdb and /dev/sdc in the raid-0)
[18:59] <Dynetrekk> any idea why there's no speed benefit? disappointed...
[18:59] <blabladog> I have a couple of issues: first, empathy integration/contacts seems gone (when I try to edit accounts in empathy, nothing happens)
[18:59] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch Hello again
[19:00] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch please tell me what output you will need / want and i will give it, do you want me to paste output when i tail -f syslog and try to connect wifi?
[19:00] <blabladog> second: kernel update seems to have broken grub and now it waits 30 seconds before boot, and prompts me to choose e.g. memtest, how do I fix that?
[19:00] <ioria> sysmgmt,  dmesg | grep ath
[19:02] <blabladog> I see empathy has been dropped, so I use what instead? What is the official chat program for Ubuntu 16.04?
[19:03] <sysmgmt> ioria: please take a look here, http://pastebin.com/fidfjFe6
[19:03] <nacc> blabladog: hrm? empathy is still present
[19:03] <nacc> !info empathy | blabladog
[19:03] <nacc> !info empathy xenial | blabladog
[19:04] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch tell me and i paste output via pastebin
[19:04] <blabladog_> nacc: https://www.linux.com/news/ubuntu-1604-drops-brasero-and-empathy-gnome-calendar-be-adopted
[19:05] <ioria> sysmgmt,  same error, i guess ,  Direct firmware load for ath10k/cal-pci-0000:02:00.0.bin failed with error -2
[19:05] <nacc> blabladog_: included by default and dropped are different things
[19:05] <JonelethIrenicus> trying to compile a program and getting this error "undefined reference to symbol 'glBlendFunc'"
[19:05] <JonelethIrenicus> any idea how to fix it?
[19:05] <blabladog_> nacc: OK, does it work for you? when I install empathy I cant add/edit accounts
[19:05] <sysmgmt> ioria: Nov 16 20:05:20 Lenovo-ideapad-310-15ISK kernel: [  460.253067] ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: no channel configured; ignoring frame(s)!
[19:06] <JonelethIrenicus> /usr/lib/nvidia-370/libGL.so.1: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[19:06] <JonelethIrenicus> any ideas?
[19:06] <LinuxNovice> hi, anybody online here?
[19:06] <nacc> blabladog_: I don't use empathy, I was only responding that it i stil present in the archives
[19:06] <sysmgmt> ioria: trying to connect, trying to connect. let me double check to see if i get direct firmware load error
[19:06] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: what program?
[19:06] <JonelethIrenicus> extcalc