[12:02] <tobhe> hey, while looking at another arduino bug i found this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arduino/+bug/1425677 which seems to be resolved since jammy which ships v1.8. can we mark set this one to fix released?
[17:13] <MisterSweet> Is here someone. I have a question what package should I report for my error (with mobile broadband).


[17:20] <OerHeks> hio_, so you are on a VMware image, want to share folders, and want a newer kernel without even telling us what the real issue is. is ubuntu the host or the vm ?
[17:20] <k1l> hio_: because you added that PPA.
[17:21] <hio_> i just do what the links tell me to do
[17:22] <bekks> hio_: You just staed you are ignoring the solution offered in the link you posted.
[17:22] <bekks> *stated
[17:22] <hio_> i shouldnt need to fix ubuntu's mistakes
[17:23] <bekks> hio_: The issue is a missing patch for VMware Workstation - you really should read your link.
[17:23] <k1l> hio_: drop that attitude!
[17:23] <OerHeks> hio_, goodluck
[17:23] <hio_> so why cant that missing update come automatically via ubuntu update?
[17:23] <k1l> hio_: you are just ranting and swearing. this is not the way you contact this support run by volunteers.
[17:23] <k1l> hio_: did you file a  bug on ubuntu?
[17:23] <bekks> hio_: BEcause VMware Workstation is not even shipped by Ubuntu - but by VMware.
[17:24] <bekks> hio_: Now stop your ranting, read the link, follow the solution.
[17:24] <bekks> k1l: It's a VMware bug.
[17:25] <k1l> hio_: and i did not find where the !mainline command and wiki page says to use a PPA that is not for recent ubuntu versions.
[17:25] <hio_> i googled how to install new kernel and got it from some website
[17:25] <Walkerdine> I keep getting the error message
[17:25] <Walkerdine> "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdf'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[17:25] <Walkerdine> "
[17:26] <k1l> hio_: so, even the people i here did say you more than 10 times now that your solution is the wrong one, you still ranting and swearing your solution doesnt work?
[17:26] <Walkerdine> And then there are several messages like "Command (m for help): g: unknown command"
[17:26] <cfhowlett> k1l, it's a done deal.  I saw this coming 15 minutes ago and /ignored
[17:27] <k1l> !mainline | hio_ read that page and get a more recent kernel if that helps you.
[17:27] <hio> now i did the steps in the link and i still dont see any shared folder
[17:27] <hio> i knew it wouldnt work
[17:28] <wileee> Walkerdine, Details within context for us to even begin to help.
[17:28] <bekks> hio_: You cant have done those steps that fast.
[17:28] <hio> i did it while we were talking
[17:28] <bekks> hio_: Not within thre minutes.
[17:28] <bekks> Yeah, of course...
[17:28] <bekks> Whatever, good luck.
[17:28] <Walkerdine> I'm trying to run a flashing script but its giving me errors on the board partition section and its trying to use fdisk
[17:28] <hio> oh ok, so now that i have proven you wrong it's not your problem anymore?
[17:29] <k1l> hio: could you stop beeing that aggressiv towards other helpers?
[17:30] <k1l> hio: you said you need a more recent kernel because that fixes your issue with a 3rd party program. we showed you the right solution to get a more recent kernel.
[17:30] <bekks> hio_: It literally NEVER was my problem.
[17:30] <Caveman_> hello, guys can anyone recommend a good tiling wm?
[17:30] <bekks> hio: It is your problem, amongst others - the biggest problem for you is that you are not listening, and actively refusing help.
[17:30] <bekks> hio: Thats why I wont try to help you anymore. Good luck.
[17:30] <admin-g> Hello guys I am installing kubuntu desktop and I am wondering if I should pick lightdm or sddm
[17:31] <k1l> admin-g: 15.04?
[17:31] <admin-g> k1l: yes
[17:31] <cfhowlett> admin-g, pretty sure light-dm is the default on all *buntus
[17:31] <Caveman_> light dm would be my choice
[17:31] <k1l> admin-g: i think kubuntu uses sddm now
[17:31] <cfhowlett> ! or not
[17:31] <Walkerdine> Does fdisk have a "g" command
[17:31] <cfhowlett> Walkerdine, gdisk
[17:31] <admin-g> k1l: thanks cx
[17:32] <admin-g> Ohh yea is there a way to uninstall all other desktops so I only use kubuntu?
[17:32] <Walkerdine> Should I switch the fdisk command in the flasher script to gdisk?
[17:32] <cfhowlett> !purekubuntu | admin-g
[17:32] <bekks> admin-g: you dont have to uninstall something for using kubuntu.
[17:33] <admin-g> bekks: I know but I have Ubuntu-desktop and gnome it takes space and I want more space on my computer
[17:36] <wileee> admin-g, It you are filling up your hard drive you better have it backed up.
[17:37] <admin-g> wileee: I back it up every now and then when I think I'll need it but is there a way to back up Java? I need it for webstorm and phpstorm and I'm tired of downloading it ever time I format
[17:40] <wileee> admin-g, use a ltl.
[17:40] <admin-g> wileee: ltl???
[17:40] <wileee> longterm support release
[17:41] <cfhowlett> !lts
[17:42] <gaurav_SpringDev> hi Friends
[17:42] <gaurav_SpringDev> I have a vga laptop
[17:42] <admin-g> k1l: I am done installing now but is it bad if two lines said "1. Unknown media type in type 'all/all'"
[17:42] <gaurav_SpringDev> want to connect to HDMI tv
[17:43] <gaurav_SpringDev> can somebody suggest me?
[17:43] <admin-g> cfhowlett: does that mean Java is reinstalled on it? The jdk I mean
[17:43] <gaurav_SpringDev> vga laptop to HDMI output...?
[17:44] <admin-g> gaurav_SpringDev: just plug a hdmi cable from computer to TV??
[17:44] <cfhowlett> admin-g, no, LTS means Long Term Support.  non LTS, 15.04, have a 9 month lifecycle.  LTS has at least 3 years
[17:44] <gaurav_SpringDev> does not work
[17:44] <OerHeks> gaurav_SpringDev, find a vga-hdmi adaper/kit
[17:45] <gaurav_SpringDev> from 14.04 LTS has atleast 5 years
[17:45] <gaurav_SpringDev> OerHeks : is it a software kit or hardware?
[17:45] <OerHeks> hardware
[17:45] <admin-g> cfhowlett: and how would that make me able to back up my Java installation or anything else?
[17:45] <cfhowlett> gaurav_SpringDev, false.  xubuntu = 3 years
[17:46] <gaurav_SpringDev> but I have a cable which takes vga input and gives HDMI output
[17:46] <admin-g> Okay guys just got done installing it and my computer is rebooting arm
[17:46] <cfhowlett> admin-g, you don't need LTS to backup ANYTHING.
[17:46] <gaurav_SpringDev> which I am connecting
[17:46] <gaurav_SpringDev> and no output is being displayed on the TV
[17:47] <admin-g> cfhowlett: then why did someone tell me to use it when I asked that someone if there was a way to back up jdk installation dad
[17:47] <admin-g> Uhh take the dad out haha
[17:47] <cfhowlett> admin-g, you complained about frequent downloads.  On LTS, you do not need to upgrade every 9 months, thus ... fewer downlods
[17:48] <sever2client> how to get lts
[17:48] <wileee> admin-g, Hard to tell what your doing honestly, sounded to me like the hard drive space was tight, that is not a good thing, so I suggested a backup scenario is all.
[17:48] <cfhowlett> ServerSage, download 14.04.3
[17:49] <Bernzel> Hey. Im having some issues with remmina vnc connecting to my mac. It have worked flawlessly before, now though it refuses to connect to the mac. I've rebooted both systems but no difference. Anyone got some ideas?
[17:49] <macskay> Where is the system's default alacarte config in a 15.04?
[17:49] <admin-g> cfhowlett: no I asked if there was a way to back up my Java and I also said that I am tired of having to download it every time I format my computer in case you wondered why I would want to back up my jdk installation
[17:49] <OerHeks> macskay, there is no default alacarte anymore
[17:50] <macskay> How does it populate then?
[17:50] <OerHeks> macskay, use unitytweak or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[17:50] <macskay> I've build a custom ubuntu with all my stuff in it, but when installing my home folders get flushed, meaninf all the alacarte settings are gone
[17:51] <macskay> i could back it up into my dotfiles-repo but yeah, would be neat to just tell the installation to use that file
[17:51] <OerHeks> "when installing my home folders get flushed" ... custom ubuntu ?
[17:52] <macskay> OerHeks, yeah I just installed all the packages i want into an ordinary ubuntu 15.04 installation and created a setup file with distroshare
[17:52] <macskay> now everytime i use that distro i get all the programs i want rom the beginning
[17:52] <macskay> *from
[17:53] <OerHeks> Oh, can't help you there, so you found the cause.
[17:53] <macskay> howdoes alacarte populate its menus in the first place, so when you don't have any settings
[18:01] <gaurav_SpringDev> while connecting from VGA to HDMI output; it is showing no signal on the TV..??can anyone tell me?
[18:04] <Walkerdine> Not sure if my flashing script is bad or if I'm just not doing something that I'm supposed to
[18:08] <eugenio> ciao
[18:13] <Bernzel> Anyone fairly familiar with Remmina?
[18:14] <bekks> Bernzel: What if?
[18:17] <DarkSector> I am trying to install Ubuntu on an SSD separate from my Windows 7 SSD
[18:17] <DarkSector> Where should I install the bootlaoder?
[18:17] <DarkSector> On the Ubuntu SSD or Windows 7 SSD?
[18:17] <Bernzel> bekks Well if that is the case, what could possibly cause the software to stop connecting to my mac after weeks of successful usage?
[18:17] <bekks> DarkSector: On the boot disk.
[18:17] <DarkSector> well, I'd like to boot from the Ubuntu SSD, but grub says it's unable to install on ti
[18:18] <DarkSector> bekks ^
[18:18] <bekks> Bernzel: Can you connect successfully with another client?
[18:18] <bekks> DarkSector: So whats the full error you get?
[18:18] <DarkSector> Boot loader install failed
[18:18] <DarkSector> Unable to install grub on /dev/sda
[18:18] <DarkSector> I have the windows boot loader on /dev/sdb
[18:19] <bekks> DarkSector: Then why are you trying to install it on sda?
[18:19] <bekks> DarkSector: You will not be able to dualboot automatically that way.
[18:19] <DarkSector> Ohh
[18:19] <DarkSector> Okay, so I had the wrong idea. I thought if I were to install it on /dev/sda, I could set boot priority
[18:20] <DarkSector> and grub would show up
[18:20] <DarkSector> and I would be able to select windows or Linux from there
[18:20] <bekks> DarkSector: Thats "manually setting boot order" and not "dual boot" :)
[18:20] <bekks> !dualboot | DarkSector
[18:20] <DarkSector> But say, I do want to use manual boot. I should be able to install grub on /dev/sda right?
[18:20] <Walkerdine> In the script I am running there is a command like "fdisk /dev/$1 <<EOF"
[18:20] <DarkSector> My real question is, why can't I install it on /dev/sda
[18:21] <Walkerdine> and then on multiple lines there are letters and then EOF
[18:22] <Bernzel> bekks , dont have any other clients to try on unfortunatly, I was hoping there was debugging/logging options to track the source of the problem?
[18:23] <bekks> Bernzel: You dont need other client computers. All you need is another program, so you can identify wether the issue is on the mac side, or on the remmina side.
[18:26] <Bernzel> bekks ah I see. X2 or what is it called? Same thing?
[18:29] <Caveman_> whats a good wm that is easy to configure?
[18:29] <Caveman_> tiling if possible
[18:29] <Caveman_> dynamic would be best
[18:29] <bekks> Caveman_: The one you install, most likely.
[18:29] <Caveman_> oh, ok
[18:30] <Caveman_> i didnt know if i3 was easy to configure
[18:30] <Caveman_> but im gonna try it out now thanks
[18:30] <bekks> There are a lot of other tiling wm as well.
[18:30] <Caveman_> bekks: thanks
[18:30] <Caveman_> like what
[18:31] <Caveman_> i heard some guys on 4chan saying i3 was the best
[18:31] <lokidawg> ello
[18:33] <admin-g_> hello guys i was wondering how to change the path of webstorm when i try to start it the computer gives me a alert window saying "could not launch <path to webstorm.sh>" i went to that path toonly to be reminded that i moved my webstorm to another path
[18:37] <mancomunado>     dd is not burning neither XP or 7. "Operational system not found". Anyone had similar results?
[18:38] <OerHeks> admin-g_, more a question for #ubuntu-server. likely you edit that new path, but webstorm is not an ubuntu package. so i find no manual
[18:38] <akik> mancomunado: dd is not used to burn anything
[18:39] <OerHeks> akik +1
[18:40] <akik> mancomunado: what you want is k3b or brasero or cdrecord or wodim or growisofs
[18:41] <mac1986> ello
[18:41] <macbash> ello
[18:41] <akik> what is the cd/dvd burning program in unity?
[18:42] <OerHeks> brasero AFAIK
[18:46] <admin-g_> found this online
[18:46] <admin-g_> will it work??
[18:46] <admin-g_> [Desktop Entry]
[18:46] <admin-g_> Version=1.0                                #not sure what this does
[18:46] <admin-g_> Name=My Awesome App                        #Obviously the application name
[18:46] <admin-g_> GenericName=Awesome App                    #Difference between this and Name?
[18:48] <admin-g_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12224735/
[18:50] <kadiro> admin-g: this is just an example of desktop file
[18:50] <kadiro> and it work if you modified it
[18:51] <admin-g_> kadiro how much modification does it need if you dont count the version and name and all that
[18:51] <kadiro> version and name are optional
[18:52] <kadiro> the required is Exec ( where your script )
[18:52] <admin-g_> kadiro what about the script??
[18:52] <admin-g_> kadiro i dont understand what you mean
[18:53] <kadiro> admin-g: is yours, you need to put a full path to your script
[18:53] <admin-g_> kadiro you mean the file that i want to open??
[18:54] <admin-g_> kadiro thats the webstorm.sh file
[18:54] <kadiro> where is it? in home folder??
[18:54] <kadiro> can you explain more what exactely you doing?
[18:56]  * kadiro -_-'
[18:56] <admin-g_> kadiro yea i would have to change the path to <Home/WebDev/WebStorm/bin/webstorm.sh>
[18:57] <kadiro> then change the line : Exec=/path/to/sh/file/file.sh with Exec=/home/yourname/WebDev/WebStorm/bin/webstorm.sh
[18:58] <kadiro> for icon you can change it too
[18:58] <OerHeks> err a service from your homefolder .. are you sure that is a good idea ?
[18:58] <kadiro> check the path i just guess is in your home folder
[18:58] <OerHeks> if you don't know a place, use /opt/ folder for services.
[18:59] <Walkerdine> I cant figure out how everyone is just running this script no problem. For some reason it says all the commands are invalid
[18:59] <admin-g_> kadiro okay look i installed kubuntu desktop and now i can not launch my webstom but my phpsorm opens up as normal when i serach for it or right click and open with. when i try to open webstom in any kind of way i get a error saying "KDElnit could not launch 'tmp/WebStorm-141.1550/bin/webstorm.sh' as you now know my .sh file for webstorm isnt even there"
[18:59] <Walkerdine> When it comes to the partitioning
[18:59] <Walkerdine> fdisk doesn't even have a g command
[19:01] <kadiro> ok i understand now admin-g
[19:01] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: Context ? What in the world are you trying to do ?
[19:01] <pauljw> admin-g_, is webstorm kde software or is written for one of the desktops you removed?  ie gnome
[19:02] <Walkerdine> I'm trying to run a flashing script that is supposed to flash this Nvidia Jetson board but when it gets to the partitioning part it just has a bunch of errors
[19:02] <Walkerdine> and only makes a 4.2 mb section and I can't figure out why
[19:03] <Walkerdine> https://gitlab.com/jamesthomas/baserock-flashing-tools/blob/master/flashscripts/jetson-tk1-flash.sh
[19:03] <admin-g_> pauljw i dont think its spesified to any desktop but if you think so then i could try to install ubuntu-desktop again
[19:03] <Walkerdine> Everything works fine until the board_partition() function
[19:03] <OerHeks> admin-g_, i had that same advice for you in mind :-D
[19:03] <Walkerdine> In which I can't figure out what its doing
[19:04] <pauljw> admin-g_, i don't know, i'm just thinking out loud.  lots of things load drivers and paths according to the environment they're installed under
[19:04] <admin-g_> OerHeks, pauljw nope i never uninstalled ubuntu-desktop so it should work
[19:04] <pauljw> okay admin-g_   was just a guess
[19:05] <admin-g_>  pauljw i just wanted to tell you
[19:05] <OerHeks> admin-g_, you uninstalled kubuntu desktop, so check again if that firestorm is still there.
[19:06] <kadiro> admin-g: if you lunch a script from a full path it work?
[19:06] <admin-g_> OerHeks if i did that i wouldnt be using kubuntu right now i am not understanding what you are saying
[19:07] <Walkerdine> Bashing-om: Would you like to see the output?
[19:07] <CarlFK> trusty - does it have avlib (or libav, or whatever the new ffmpeg is called?)
[19:08] <admin-g_> kadiro have not tried that yet im wondering if everything ust be exact lik the "version" or the "name"
[19:08] <gaurav_SpringDev> no resolution found yet....want to connect ubuntu vga laptop to HDMI TV
[19:08] <onepolar> im newbie to ubuntu
[19:09] <onepolar> hell o everyone
[19:09] <onepolar> hello
[19:09] <gaurav_SpringDev> hey onepolar
[19:09] <kadiro> avconv CarlFK
[19:09] <Walkerdine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12224834/
[19:09] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: I looked at the script, Like you I can not identify what ' fdisk ' is expected to do .
[19:09] <Ray1> hell to everyone))
[19:10] <onepolar> typing error ray1 sorry :(
[19:10] <Ray1> it's ok. just joking
[19:10] <TJ_on_Wily> gaurav_SpringDev, Cannot directly connect VGA output to HDMI input without a specialised Analog-To-Digital converter
[19:10] <onepolar> whois
[19:11] <CarlFK> kadiro: right.  thanks.
[19:11] <kadiro> admin-g_: don't worry about version and name you can put any value for theme
[19:11]  * kadiro some one insult us O_o
[19:12] <kadiro> you welcome CarlFK
[19:12] <gaurav_SpringDev> TJ_on_Wily : I have brought up a cable which takes vga input and gives HDMI output
[19:12] <gaurav_SpringDev> TJ_on_Wily :but when connecting to a HDMI device; it is showing me no signal
[19:13] <gaurav_SpringDev> do I stille need a converter?
[19:13] <onepolar> i think u should use converter
[19:13] <kadiro> a small circuit analog to digital do a staff
[19:14] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdf'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted." Here is the rub. the script was written for MSDOS partitioning, and seems you have GPT. 'fdisk' does not support GPT. The tool to cope with GPT is 'gdisk' .
[19:14] <TJ_on_Wily> gaurav_SpringDev, It is not possible to use a passive cable; if the cable has an integrated D/A converter then it *might* work. You'd have to check the specifications of the cable's converter
[19:14] <kadiro> yes gaurav_SpringDev if you are not experienced with electronic testing
[19:15] <gaurav_SpringDev> that is quite okie...but when I am plugginn in the cable; even xrandr is not showin up the connected devices;don't you think that atleast xrandr should show me the output....
[19:16] <gaurav_SpringDev> even if the cable is not supporting
[19:16] <TJ_on_Wily> gaurav_SpringDev, No
[19:16] <gaurav_SpringDev> VGA output is being bradcasted already
[19:16] <gaurav_SpringDev> *broadcasted
[19:16] <admin-g_> kadiro in the file i wrote "terminal=false" but whn i open it up it opens with terminal why is that??
[19:16] <TJ_on_Wily> gaurav_SpringDev, VGA to DVI-I will work, but no VGA to DVI-D or HDMI or DisplayPort
[19:17] <TJ_on_Wily> gaurav_SpringDev, If the PC has a DVI-D that can directly connect to HDMI
[19:18] <OerHeks> gaurav_SpringDev, some hdmi devices must be enabled on the machine before boot. might worth a look
[19:18] <kadiro> admin-g: because you use under it a script or the script it self open some command needed from terminal
[19:18] <BluesKaj> yes, I use a DVI to HDMI , works well
[19:19] <gaurav_SpringDev> so TJ_on_Wily :  if the pc has DVI-D; then?
[19:19] <admin-g_> kadiro but my phpstorm doesnt do that it just opens up with no terminal
[19:19] <TJ_on_Wily> DVI-D and HDMI both use identical digital signals. The only difference is that HDMI also carries audio
[19:19] <whologin> well im ashamed, i just posted getting ubuntu on to my laptop on craigslist
[19:19] <gaurav_SpringDev> and how to check if the PC is equipped with DVI-D?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> DVI also carries audio
[19:19] <TJ_on_Wily> DVI-I carries analog signals identical to VGA, which is why that works too
[19:20] <gaurav_SpringDev> thanks for the info man...how to check if the PC is equipped with DVI-D?
[19:20] <kadiro> admin-g: in desktop change Exec=... with Exec=bash -c '...'
[19:21]  * onepolar away got to go a few hours
[19:21] <BluesKaj> TJ_on_Wily:  my DVI to HDMI connection carries the digital audio from spdif as well , but it depends on your graphics catrd
[19:22] <TJ_on_Wily> BluesKaj, No the DVI standard does not include audio. There are some adapters that use a DVI connector but it outputs standard HDMI packets, which include audio
[19:23] <sstra> Old winuser switching to ubuntu and liking it.. however, would very much like to use terminal more then gui and asking for a good reference point to learn commands. There are tons of material out there, but wondering if there is one more liked then others..
[19:24] <gaurav_SpringDev> TJ_on_wily : how to check if my PC is equipped with DVI-D or not?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> well, it can tell you that it works here, TJ_on_Wily , perhaps not std , but it loops back from my rv to my audio receiver
[19:25] <Emulators> hello linux ppl :)
[19:25] <Emulators> im trying to become one too slowly
[19:25] <gaurav_SpringDev> so BluesKaj : can you tell me how to check if pc is equipped with DVI-d or not?
[19:26] <jamie___> v
[19:26] <jamie___> oops, sorry. I'd say look @ the back where the connectors are?
[19:28] <gaurav_SpringDev> I don have the one
[19:28] <akik> gaurav_SpringDev: you can check what connector you have on the gfx card
[19:28] <gaurav_SpringDev> so what would I have to do now; BlueKaj?
[19:28] <jamie___> user manual then
[19:28] <jamie___> or tech specs on a webpage if you have model/ part name
[19:28] <sstra> guess I am lacking +v
[19:28] <akik> gaurav_SpringDev: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface#/media/File:DVI_Connector_Types.svg
[19:28] <BluesKaj> gaurav_SpringDev:  you hasve to test it to find out out. I had no indication at first til I checked my audio output fro my tv sources
[19:29] <onepolar> +1
[19:29] <jamie___> gaurav_SpringDev: : what motherboard/ graphics card?
[19:29] <Walkerdine> How do I get fdisk the option to create GPT partitions
[19:29] <akik> Walkerdine: instead of fdisk use gdisk
[19:30] <Walkerdine> I'm running a script that uses fdisk though
[19:30] <gaurav_SpringDev> do not have graphics card
[19:30] <Walkerdine> I'm supposed to be able to just run it
[19:30] <Kathgrar> I've now a working WLAN (RTL8723BE). I removed the hard block by adding the line 'blacklist rtl8723be' in /etc/modprobe.d/fbdev-blacklist.conf, and now see 2 devices instead of 4 devices in rfkill, but WLAN works. _BUT_ my keyboard airplane key to enable/disable WLAN manually doesn't work anymore. Any idea for me?
[19:30] <Walkerdine> but its says the g command is not recognized
[19:31] <akik> pretty sure fdisk doesn't support gpt
[19:31] <Bashing-om> sstra: There is no one size fits all .. A great place to start : http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO.html#toc17 .
[19:31] <admin-g_> kadiro it didnt work now all that happens is that terminal opens up and closes in a blink
[19:31] <gaurav_SpringDev> jamie : Chipset Model 	Intel HM65 Express Chipset
[19:31] <gaurav_SpringDev> and no graphics card
[19:31] <jamie___> Kathgrar: I think if you look it up online you'll find a fix, my samsung ativ book 8 had software for all the function buttons (wifi on off/ brightness) and all the rest working after finding it
[19:32] <jamie___> what motherboard gaurav_SpringDev ? that's a chipset
[19:32] <Kathgrar> jamie___: I already have searched for a fix, and there's nothing, nor from the vendor, nor a custom fix
[19:32] <jamie___> from ark.intel.com
[19:32] <jamie___> LVDS, CRT, Display Port, DVI, HDMI, SVDO
[19:32] <gaurav_SpringDev> it is not mentioned in the specs : Jamie
[19:33] <jamie___> says HDMI/ DVI there?
[19:33] <Kathgrar> jamie___: RTL == Realtek .... you know that?
[19:33] <sstra> Bashing-om: thanks!
[19:33] <jamie___> yeh
[19:33] <gaurav_SpringDev> jamie : but no HDMI port is there
[19:33] <Kathgrar> Realtek only provides Windows drivers
[19:33] <gaurav_SpringDev> It's jus a vga port out here
[19:33] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: You can not do GPT with a MSDOS tool . I do suggest that you go back to your susouce and see if there is a script supporting GPT . Or get twith the author of the script and see what can be workd out . By this time I would assume there has been a mod made to support GPT partitioning .
[19:36] <akik> Bashing-om: fdisk is a linux tool
[19:36] <kadiro> admin-g_: try the path from terminal to see what's happen
[19:36] <gaurav_SpringDev> jamie : no DVI port present
[19:36] <gaurav_SpringDev> jamie : http://icecat.in/en/p/vendorName/psc2ug-00p001/notebooks-C640-X4012-14356765.html
[19:38] <Bashing-om> akik: Yes it is .. to support a particular partitioning scheme (MSDOS/MBR) The error here is in reguards to GPT partitioioning. Other tools are required supporting GPT .
[19:38] <kadiro> akik: like said Bashing-om you need to use gdisk to fix GPT problem
[19:40] <Emulators> help. is there any app i can use to sync files to mega and skydrive?
[19:41] <Emulators> and also download of course
[19:41] <Norbin> skydrive don't have linux client? Kappa (JOking S:)
[19:42] <Emulators> they both have i guess but 2 aps use more resources then one i guess
[19:43] <phayalz> Evening, sorry to bother you all, I am new to using a mouseless os. How can I highlight multiple lines of terminal and copy them?
[19:44] <dm_comp> $chsh zsh, I get chsh: user 'zch' does not exist
[19:44] <dm_comp> am I misusing the command?
[19:44] <dm_comp> I have zsh installed
[19:46] <beaky> chsh -s /bin/zsh <user>
[19:47] <akik> phayalz: what is the mouseless os you speak of?
[19:47] <aeden__d> phayalz, I'm not sure that's possible unless you use screen? maybe someone else knows how
[19:47] <phayalz> No gui so no need to use amouse
[19:47] <phayalz> I use tmux for window management
[19:47] <beaky> ctrl+alt+1
[19:47] <beaky> ctrl+alt+f1 *
[19:47] <akik> phayalz: you can use mouse in the console if you install the gpm package
[19:48] <dm_comp> beaky still showing bash when i echo $SHELL
[19:48] <phayalz> ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt seem to ne doing ti for me
[19:48] <dm_comp> but it did ask for a password
[19:48] <beaky> dm_comp: log out and log in again
[19:49] <phayalz> I will try out gpm thanks!
[19:49] <aeden__d> phayalz, install screen
[19:49] <phayalz> Looks pretty good, cant use it to change windows but thats fine, apprecaite it!
[19:50] <blib> anyone into linux + streaming cameras? I need something which is compact and can supply me good video feed using usb (1080p + 60fps would be nice)
[19:51] <aeden__d> phayalz, You use ctr-a to start the command sequence. Then press esc, your cursor will move in any direction. Press enter to select text, move to where you want to end the highlight, press enter again. -- copies to buffer. Then ctr-a and then } will paste
[19:51] <aeden__d> if you use screen
[19:51] <dm_comp> beaky: when I exit it close my terminal. It's okay, I'm reading How Linux Works 2ed and this is only for practice. thanks anyways!
[19:52] <phayalz> Oh okay, I really like tmux but this gpm, thanks akik
[19:53] <dm_comp> bash: logout: not login shell: use `exit'
[19:53] <dm_comp> not a big deal :)
[19:54] <admin-g_> kadiro instead i took the path php storm use and changed the end to the webstorm and it worked XD
[19:55] <ubuntu528> I'm trying to boot my laptop that has Ubuntu, but it opens an OS selection, and when I choose Ubuntu, it tells me that "The system is running in low-graphics mode".
[19:56] <kadiro> admin-g: happy for that :))
[19:58] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: What graphics chip set ? and do you have the proper graphic's driver installed ?
[19:59] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: SiS Mirage 3. It's horrible. And the drivers... I think I updated them a few months ago, but that was when I still had Windows.
[20:00] <leverquin> i need help. my sound on 14.04 is bit broken. when i play music or play dota2 everything is so skippy
[20:00] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: SIS graphics ? Not a lot of support for SIS .. some but not much .
[20:01] <derperson>  Running ubuntu 5.04 Live. The nostalgia. It feels.
[20:03] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: Pastebin ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ' and let's se which way we go .
[20:04] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: Am I supposed to search for that on pastebin?
[20:05] <Bashing-om> !paste | ubuntu528
[20:06] <cjohnson> Why does installing the php package try to install apache2? I don't want apache2 on my system
[20:06] <cjohnson> only php and nginx
[20:06] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: (I am not a smart man) From what I understand, am I supposed to type in ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ' to the terminal and paste.ubuntu.com the results?
[20:06] <cjohnson> How can I install php without installing apache2?
[20:06] <utkarsh195> hey
[20:07] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: ^^ to use pastebin ; ' sudo apt-get install pastebinit ' and direct to the site with ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga | pastebinit ' the result is a URL back in terminal. Pass that link back here .
[20:07] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: Ah.
[20:07] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: (not to know is not a sin) we were all new at one time .
[20:08] <IDJ> when i try activate swap partition(sda5) it says: 'swapon failed: Device or resource busy'. what can i do here?
[20:08] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: I've been new to life for the last thirteen years.
[20:08] <beaky> i have 21 years of experience in life; im an expert in life
[20:09] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: Then you have a lot of time to make significant contributions to open source !
[20:09] <Walkerdine> Crap now I screwed up bad
[20:09] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: Thanks for motivating me, I guess.
[20:10] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: K, What have you done ?
[20:11] <Walkerdine> Well I don't know what exactly I have caused but I tried manually updating my util-linux and I did it wrong
[20:12] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: It keeps failing to install pastebinit. I feel like pasting it by hand...
[20:12] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: The package manager does not allow you " to do it wrong" . Please explain .
[20:12] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: checking why .
[20:12] <Walkerdine> I did a make install of it
[20:13] <Walkerdine> I screwd up mount and probaly alot of other things
[20:13] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: I think I found a workaround, by invoking Emacs and *trying* to get to the terminal trough there.
[20:13] <ubuntu528> So I could paste the results.
[20:14] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: The command works for me as is - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12225116/ - . Did you install the tool ?
[20:14] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: Trying to "sudo apt-get install pastebinit", but it keeps telling me that it failed to fetch some files.
[20:15] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: OK, What release are you on ? what returns ' cat /etc/issue ' ?
[20:16] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: 15.04.
[20:17] <Walkerdine> Is there a way I can repair my core system files without reinstalling everything completely?
[20:18] <Walkerdine> Cause if I reboot my computer it won't load anthing
[20:18] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: I would expect the tool to be in 15.04's repository .. but, check, is there a positive result from ' apt-cache show pastebinit ' . Life will be much simpler if this tool is available to use .
[20:19] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: Uh... what excactly do you mean by 'positive result'? I did the command, it gave me a huge wall of text.
[20:19] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: Looks pretty positive to me, though.
[20:20] <ubuntunoob213> Hello everyone~!
[20:20] <Walkerdine> Should I just start reinstalling now anyways to save time
[20:20] <IDJ> when i try activate swap partition(sda5) it says: 'swapon failed: Device or resource busy'. what can i do here?
[20:21] <Walkerdine> At least this time I made it more than 2 days before I screwed up my whole system
[20:21] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: Update ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' Clean up ' sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get autoremove ' Check the system status and repair ' sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C '. Maybe all is good .
[20:22] <p4wn> hello
[20:22] <p4wn> i am having an issue with my computer
[20:22] <p4wn> i cannot log in
[20:22] <p4wn> what du i du?
[20:22]  * ubuntunoob213 dances around
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> p4wn  that's too general, provide more details
[20:23] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: Then yeah that is a positive result. We need to change focus and fix your package manager ! Do terminal commands ' sudp apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' advise of ANY errors .
[20:23]  * ubuntunoob213 chuckles.
[20:23] <p4wn> well, i turn on teh computer
[20:23] <akik> IDJ: if you're sure sda5 is your swap partition you can run mkswap /dev/sda5
[20:23] <p4wn> and i cannot log in
[20:23] <p4wn> it ask me for passcode
[20:23] <ubuntu528> I hate all keyboard layouts that are not the Estonian one. Especially Dvorak.
[20:23] <p4wn> i have not passcode
[20:23] <Chris____> hello im having issues getting my webcam to work
[20:23] <OerHeks> !password
[20:24] <Walkerdine> I got errors running those Bashing-om
[20:24] <p4wn> where is passcode? must i register wit teh computer?
[20:24] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: I found a way to paste it, I have to use pastebin, though.
[20:24] <Walkerdine> mount errors
[20:24] <p4wn> i did not forget the passcode i just never gave it won
[20:24] <p4wn> what is teh default passcode?
[20:24] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: At what point and what are the errors ?
[20:24] <Ben64> p4wn: there isn't one, reset it from recovery mode
[20:24] <OerHeks> p4wn, unless you have an encrypted home, that url should work.
[20:25] <p4wn> how du i recovery mode? what is the command?
[20:25] <p4wn> i have only /server and /join
[20:25] <Walkerdine> mount: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmount.so.1: version `MOUNT_2.25' not found (required by mount)
[20:25] <p4wn> and /msg
[20:25] <OerHeks> p4wn, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[20:25] <Walkerdine> I'm going to have to reinstall
[20:25] <Walkerdine> Does the system back up fix any of this
[20:25] <p4wn> that page is talk about if i cannot get into desktop i cannot get into computer
[20:25] <Walkerdine> Or do I ahve to do a clean install
[20:25] <p4wn> as in, i get to desktop
[20:25] <p4wn> try to open computer and i need passcode
[20:26] <Ben64> p4wn: explain better
[20:26] <p4wn> i get to desktop
[20:26] <p4wn> then i open terminal with ctrl-alt-x
[20:26] <p4wn> i mean t
[20:26] <p4wn> then i type in terminal i type "pdgin"
[20:26] <p4wn> to open computer
[20:26] <p4wn> but it needs a passcode
[20:26] <Ben64> p4wn: use less <enter>
[20:26] <p4wn> otherwise it does not get to computer
[20:26] <IDJ> akik: says the same thing, device or resource busy
[20:26] <Ben64> p4wn: you're not making any sense
[20:27] <p4wn> to connect to computer
[20:27] <Ben64> IDJ: something is already using it then
[20:27] <p4wn> it wants passcode
[20:27] <p4wn> i can conly conect to computer via web
[20:27] <p4wn> not via desktop
[20:27] <Ben64> p4wn: stop. explain CLEARLY all on one line if you want any help here
[20:27] <p4wn> that is why i currently am connect via web
[20:27] <IDJ> Ben64: so how can  i kill this application?
[20:27] <akik> IDJ: grep sda5 /etc/mtab <- does that say anything?
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: Does it exist and is the symlink intact ? My system " lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      17 Aug  4 21:20 libmount.so.1 -> libmount.so.1.1.0 " .
[20:28] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: I'm trying to do the commands you told me to, every error begins with "Failed to fetch".
[20:28] <IDJ> akik: no
[20:28] <Walkerdine> what
[20:28] <akik> IDJ: do you get errors to your system log?
[20:28] <ubuntu528> What is the policy on swearing here?
[20:28] <ubuntu528> Just curious.
[20:29] <Ben64> ubuntu528: don't
[20:29] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: Then I suggest that you do not have an internet connection . What returns if ya do terminal command ' ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> ' ?
[20:29] <ubuntu528> Ben64: K, thanks.
[20:29] <p4wn> teh prob lem is this i log into desktop then i go to terminal and i type "pidgin" in order to connect to computer and it wants me to enter passcode but when i type "firefox" and i go to a sight like kiwiirc then i can connect to computer wtiihout passcode?
[20:29] <Ben64> p4wn: define 'computer'
[20:29] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: And at this very moment, I noticed that I DON'T HAVE MY FREAKING NETWORK CABLE IN. What the hell is wrong with me?
[20:29] <OerHeks> p4wn, so you want your pidgin password ..
[20:29] <p4wn> computger is like this, where the people are
[20:30] <Ben64> p4wn: this is an irc channel
[20:30] <p4wn> i thought this was the computer
[20:30] <p4wn> lol
[20:30] <IDJ> i guess. i don't know exactly what you mean by that. sorry
[20:30] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: You indicate that your system is broke, and you get the mount error above, I suggest that you check if the file exist (ls command) and verify where the sym link points to .
[20:31] <p4wn> what is the computer? which on eis the computer?
[20:31] <ubuntu528> ...
[20:31] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: UH HUh !  Panic not, proceed in a calm and orderly fashion .
[20:32] <p4wn> hellO?
[20:32] <p4wn> what is a computer, if not this one?
[20:32] <Ben64> your computer is a computer
[20:32] <p4wn> and where do i get the passcode that is wanted by the command "pidgin"
[20:32] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: Either way, 'pastebinit' and 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit" still don't seem to work.
[20:32] <Ben64> p4wn: post a screenshot of it asking for the passcode
[20:33] <Ben64> IDJ: try 'sudo fuser -m /dev/sda5'
[20:33] <p4wn> you mean the thing that they call the computer when i go to the shop and buy a "computer" it means the actual physical box, not the world that i connect it to? it hgought to buy a "computers" means only to by the box to connect to the computer i.e. the world
[20:33] <user1254> p4wn: do you use a patato with irc on it ? ;)
[20:33] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: Quick way, make sure the cable is plugged in, reboot the box .. and verify that networking works ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' .
[20:34] <p4wn> i cannot post a screenshot because pidgin had the channel that me bro was banned from and it gave error and now we are in trouble with the isP
[20:34] <p4wn> i think
[20:34] <p4wn> bro says you get in trouble with teh isP when you join channel that bro is banned form
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> p4wn  banned by your ISP? 'faut le faire'!
[20:34] <poppe> Im on lubuntu. should I use "git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-trusty.git" when I build my kernel?
[20:34] <akik> IDJ: check out the file /var/log/syslog if a non-systemd system or journalctl -xe if systemd system (look for errors about /dev/sda)
[20:34] <IDJ> Ben64: nothing happens. if i restart my computer can resolve it?
[20:35] <jeffrey_f> Can someone answer a question about spideroak?
[20:35] <p4wn> i will ask bro
[20:35] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: Hooray! I got it to pastebin it with Emacs. I selected a bit too much, but I'm too euphoric to paste again right now. http://ix.io/kwM
[20:35] <Ben64> IDJ: shouldnt have to
[20:35] <p4wn> he is better with the computer
[20:36] <p4wn> mayeb he will make it better now
[20:36] <p4wn> he knows probably teh passcode
[20:36] <p4wn> bye
[20:37] <IDJ> akik: its a journalctl
[20:37] <akik> IDJ: because mtab didn't contain sda5 i guess your errors could be indicating a hw problem(?)
[20:38] <IDJ> akik: when i double click it opens as text document
[20:38] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: OK, We have the info, the bad news is that you have that SIS card that just has very little support. See:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252413&page=2&p=13198482#post13198482 ' for best results install lubuntu .
[20:38] <akik> IDJ: did you double check that /dev/sda5 is in the partition table?
[20:38] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: Ubuntu has been working with lag for a month, nothing else was wrong. Until now.
[20:39] <IDJ> yes. '/dev/sda5       964775936   976771071     5997568   82  Linux swap / Solaris'
[20:40] <akik> IDJ: what about cat /proc/swaps ?
[20:41] <IDJ> akik: its here
[20:41] <poppe> does anyone know what git lubuntu is using thrusty,
[20:41] <poppe> precise
[20:41] <poppe> or ...
[20:41] <IDJ> akik: i got it
[20:41] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: Guess what, "FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'apt-key'" when trying to add the repository.
[20:41] <IDJ> akik: thanks so much
[20:41] <akik> IDJ: so you had it activated as swap already?
[20:42] <IDJ> akik: yes
[20:42] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: To hell with Ubuntu, I'm getting Lubuntu. But that day is not today.
[20:42] <Ben64> ubuntu528: looks like you typed the command incorrectly
[20:42] <IDJ> akik: actually i dont even know how i dont it
[20:43] <akik> IDJ: free command shows the amount of swap space you have
[20:43] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: Slow down .. What are you doing that you are not telling me ? I had in mind to see about (RE-)installing the graphics driver .
[20:43] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: The post told to add the repository, I tried.
[20:44] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: With that chip set you are better served from a ligher distribution. See also : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215422 .
[20:44] <jeffrey_f> Does anyone have experience with Spideroak??
[20:44] <IDJ> akik: this was a question?
[20:44] <Bashing-om> lighter*
[20:44] <akik> IDJ: no
[20:45] <IDJ> akik: ok, sorry. thanks
[20:45] <Ben64> jeffrey_f: what is your real question
[20:45] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys, I just received a computer from a friend, its a old pc I haven't checked the specs (I just know it has pentium 4 maybe 512 or 1gb of ram) I usually throw ubuntu server, and throw it in my closet, but I was thinking of using a different server distro, and wanted opinions.
[20:45] <akik> IDJ: if you execute free you will see the amount of swap space you have
[20:45] <ubuntu528> Bashing-om: So, should I get Lubuntu?
[20:46] <akik> IDJ: it should correlate with the size of your sda5 partition
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> Demon_Jester  no opinions here, type /j ##linux for general linux questions
[20:46] <Demon_Jester> MonkeyDust, ok thanks
[20:46] <Bashing-om> ubuntu528: I do like performance. And yes I do suggest that you try lubuntu .
[20:46] <jeffrey_f> Thanks Ben64, I'm in the process of moving to a new computer......How to merge and get the data to my new system.  Do I just download through the app from the original device??
[20:46] <IDJ> akik: ok
[20:46] <Berry> Hey, just super quick question before I look into this, how easy do you guys think it would be to write a program that makes an overlay graphic when a button is pressed?
[20:47] <Ben64> jeffrey_f: what is spideroak and where did you get it
[20:47] <Berry> Well, and then toggle it on and off with the button pressed
[20:47] <Bashing-om> ubuntulog2: Get lubuntu : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu .
[20:48] <jeffrey_f> Ben64:  It's a paid, internet backup solution.  Works well, but getting the data from/to another system is a little tricky
[20:48] <Ben64> jeffrey_f: then talk to their support
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> Berry  this is a support channel, no dev channel
[20:49] <Berry> MonkeyDust: Oh, right. My bad.
[20:49] <user1254> jeffrey_f: not really ubuntu related but setup your sync folder on your new comp and it will sync the data from the cloud to your new comp. make sure your old comp synced before doing so.
[20:49] <Bashing-om> Demon_Jester: Check out : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements/ . On that low spec hardware lubuntu Might work .
[20:50] <jeffrey_f> That sounds like a better option.  Thanks user1254
[20:50] <r3dapps> Hi, I'm new her. I'm learning linux by installing ubuntu. Can you help me to start by helping me?
[20:51] <Bashing-om> !manual | r3dapps
[20:51] <r3dapps> Thanks Bashing-om
[20:52] <Bashing-om> r3dapps: :) . enjoy
[20:58] <irgendwer4711> hi, my Ubuntu 15.04 has a Debian 8 grub boot screen :-D
[21:15] <guest242> does anybody know the system function is for reading and setting the bits for the cr0 register i want to turn off paging in my program "i.e not just the swap off but all of virtual memory" Is there a function from user space api's that i can get down to turning this toggling this PE bit to shut off paging completely
[21:15] <guest242> i forgot if there was and from user land inline asm won't really do me good from user ring 3
[21:16] <bekks> Punctuation is for the upper class only. Thanks Obama.
[21:17] <guest242> don't want to embed the code in the kernel but if it was code i could run at the privilage of ring 0 i would be ok haven't figured out the best way yet i am going to do it what is your thoughts
[21:20] <guest242> i would put it in a module but not so sure i want it that way... just curious if anybody knew of any internal memory management functions in linux that already could do this shutting of virtual and going back to physical memory for a  little bit so i could read memory linearly... though i probably could just read all the pages in the page table with there function but really wanted to read not only all the pages but what was left ov
[21:20] <guest242> apart of the page table yet
[21:20] <compdoc> exactly
[21:21] <guest242> O well just have to figure it out my self no worries just a little more time
[21:22] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys I have a question, I forgot what its called, but you can have multiple windows inside terminal screen.
[21:22] <Demon_Jester> you can make horizontal/vertical windows inside terminal
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> Demon_Jester  'screen'
[21:26] <DarkSector> Wow, even on an sad unity performance sucks.
[21:26] <DarkSector> *ssd
[21:27] <DarkSector> It takes it so long to popup a gksu window
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> DarkSector  use a lighter DE, LXDE or XFCE or so, or MATE
[21:27] <DarkSector> Yeah, that's what I am planning to do
[21:27] <DarkSector> How's Pantheon now a days?
[21:27] <DarkSector> Is it stable?
[21:27] <guest242> and though there is alot of mmap functions , nopage ,...etc i can uses i still would have like to do it the old toggling the bit and reading all of memory with a pointer in ring 0 method but haven't figured it out the best way yet to do it
[21:27] <guest242> my way
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> DarkSector  pantheon is for elementary, iirc
[21:28] <DarkSector> Yeah, but it can be installed on Ubuntu, can't it?
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> DarkSector  deleting zeitgeist improved my unity performance
[21:29] <Demon_Jester> MonkeyDust, are you sure? I thought there was always a debate between screen and another program, like android vs apple phones.
[21:29] <DarkSector> My lag crops up only when it tries to do super user task
[21:29] <DarkSector> So I guess it's the file manager
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> Demon_Jester  i use screen as we speak
[21:29] <DarkSector> Does Unity use nautilus?
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> DarkSector  sudo apt-get purge zeitgeist-core zeitgeist-datahub python-zeitgeist rhythmbox-plugin-zeitgeist zeitgeist
[21:30] <Demon_Jester> MonkeyDust, how do you split the windows in screen?
[21:31] <Demon_Jester> MonkeyDust, nvm I found it, I was looking for "tmux"
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> Demon_Jester  ctrl a - s
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> Demon_Jester  long time ago since ai did it, moment
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> Demon_Jester  yes, it's ctrl-a, then uppercase S
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> then ctrl-a tab
[21:37] <kuju> Hi, I have an AsusGL551JM gaming laptop with an NVidia 860M graphics card. I installed 14.04 for development, and the built-in video worked fine until a recent update (just your regular old GUI-prompt update). I've tried apt-get purge nvidia-*. Can only log into shell by setting grub loader to "text". Not sure where to go next. Help appreciated
[21:37] <whologin> is it possible to make my built in sd card reader bootable so i could run a live version?
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> whologin  i know one way, but it requires an installed ubuntu
[21:38] <whologin> ok
[21:39] <Bashing-om> whologin: From that terminal try : ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' to install the recommended graphic's driver .
[21:49] <kuju> Bashing-om: was that comment meant for whologin or me? Because it helped me to at least get the login screen working again, but after login the screen flashes weird patterns, the drums beat and it goes back to login page
[21:49] <TragicM3LON> alright fellas i really need some help here
[21:50] <TragicM3LON> what i think happened was i unmounted all my drives, and now when booting it says "error: unknown filesystem"
[21:50] <TragicM3LON> "Entering rescue mode..."
[21:50] <TragicM3LON> grub rescue>
[21:51] <Bashing-om> kuju: Ooopps, must be cross eyed here . the suggestion was for you .
[21:52] <kuju> Bashing-om: Thanks! It made some progress for me at least, haha. Any suggestions on how to get past the login page loop?
[21:54] <Bashing-om> kuju: Depends on the cause . Sometimes it is the graphics driver . Try and reboot the system ? Do you own the files in yout /home ? A loss of authorization to access /home will also cause the looping .
[21:54] <Bashing-om> yout/your*
[21:55] <kuju> Bashing-om: Read/write access to /home is ok. Reboot yielded same result
[21:57] <kuju> Bashing-om: At one point I tried downloading the graphics driver straight from NVidia following these steps (http://askubuntu.com/questions/526668/how-do-i-use-nvidia-gtx-860m-with-14-04) and found that my machine's /usr/lib/nvidia/pre-install is preventing it. Pre-install file contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12225579
[21:59] <Alessandro1970> ares
[22:00] <Alessandro1970> ciao a tutti
[22:02] <Bashing-om> kuju: Oh Boy ... Downloading and installing from OEM is the last resort . Many other options exist. OK, Find the .run file for the uninstall operation: ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" . Anything ?
[22:04] <kuju> Bashing-om: No worries, I didn't follow through with the install. I figured the pre-install fail was put there for good reason. Though in an earlier attempt I did try an apt-get install nvidia-current, and subsequently did an apt-get --purge nvidia-*
[22:08] <Bashing-om> kuju: Have you at some point done the no-no ' sudo startx' ??
[22:09] <kuju> Bashing-om: Nope.
[22:09] <Bashing-om> kuju: Away from the keyboard for a short time. I will retuen .
[22:10] <hextinini> sdsdsdsd
[22:10] <hextinini> dsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsds
[22:10] <hextinini> guys, i need help
[22:10] <Skreen> How can we help you?
[22:10] <kuju> Bashing-om: K
[22:10] <hextinini> i`m impleenting a irc server, but the client is not receiving properly my repliesmessages
[22:11] <jmubuntu> Hey guys, software center is throwing an error on startup, its in the aptd in sbin, error is ImportError: cannot import name 'AptWorker'
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> hextinini  keep it one line
[22:11] <hextinini> sorry
[22:12] <jmubuntu> anyhelp would be greatly appreciated!
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> hextinini  how is that question ubuntu related?
[22:13] <TheRealSol> I'd like to know if anyone has a recommendation for a launcher that can be run on a remote Windows PC with X Forwarding?
[22:13] <jmubuntu> guess ill reinstall ubuntu from scratch
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> TheRealSol  i'm sure the windows people know what can run on windows
[22:15] <jmubuntu> Hey guys, software center is throwing an error on startup, its in the aptd in sbin, error is ImportError: cannot import name 'AptWorker'
[22:15] <TheRealSol> MonkeyDust: I haven't asked in Windows, because this would technically run on Ubuntu
[22:16] <isene> Upgraded from Ubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 today and this part of my conky setup stopped working:
[22:16] <isene> ${weather http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/ ENGM cloud_cover 30} ${weather http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/ ENGM temperature 30}
[22:16] <isene> It leaves only:
[22:16] <isene> ${weather} ${weather}
[22:16] <isene> Any clues for debugging this?
[22:16] <TheRealSol> MonkeyDust: I'm looking for something that will run on Ubuntu but send the output to my Windows X Server
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> TheRealSol  "run on a remote windows pc", is what i read
[22:17] <TheRealSol> MonkeyDust: np, I guess you missed the X Forwarding as the end
[22:18] <TheRealSol> someone did suggest dmenu, but that works in a Terminal and I'm ideally look for something I can configure as a panel
[22:25] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[22:26] <bprompt> allo
[22:26] <Umeaboy> I wanted to add the kernel ppa in Ubuntu 15.04, but it won't update.
[22:26] <Umeaboy> I know that it's not for official use, but I'd like to activate and use full GPU.
[22:26] <Umeaboy> Any fix to that?
[22:26] <Umeaboy> I have a brand new laptop with Optimus graphics.
[22:27] <Umeaboy> Hybrid graphics.
[22:27] <genii> !mainline
[22:27] <Umeaboy> Intel with Nouveau when it comes to drivers.
[22:27] <Bashing-om> kuju: OK; back .. Let's get the pre-requisites out of the way . pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ; la -al /home/ ; ls -al /home/<user_name> ' . See where we go from here .
[22:28] <Umeaboy> genii: Is it possible to use http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.0-vivid/ as a third party mirror in Ubuntu?
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Umeaboy: optimus now-a-days is controlled by nvidia-prime . nvidia-prime should install by default when the proprietary driver is installed .
[22:29] <Umeaboy> I did add the ppa.
[22:29] <vinyl_samurai> What is a good temperature for a i7 quad core under normal load on ubuntu 14.04 unity?
[22:30] <Umeaboy> vinyl_samurai: Why not upgrade to 15.04?
[22:30] <Umeaboy> It's released as stable.
[22:30] <OerHeks> Umeaboy, you don't need a kernel, just the driver tool, no PPA at all.
[22:30] <Umeaboy> Or are you using 14.04 as a server?
[22:30] <Umeaboy> OK.
[22:30] <bprompt> Umeaboy:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/160535/how-do-i-add-the-mainline-kernel-ppa
[22:30] <vinyl_samurai> Umeaboy: small home server
[22:31] <Bashing-om> Umeaboy: You do not need a PPA to install Nvidia drivers, the proprietary drivers are available in the software repository .
[22:31] <bprompt> Umeaboy:    seems that the active one, that would gives you some updated packages will be "ppa:kernel-ppa/pre-proposed"
[22:31] <OerHeks> vinyl_samurai, check the manufacturor for temp specs. and your mobo settings.
[22:31] <Umeaboy> bprompt: Right.
[22:31] <OerHeks> brrrr pre-prposed...
[22:32] <kuju> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12225756/
[22:32] <Bashing-om> kuju: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/12225756/ .
[22:32] <genii> Umeaboy: No, the mainline builds are purposely made to be manually installed by deb file only
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> vinyl_samurai  install lm-sensors, then type this to monitor the temperature and know the critical value    watch -n 1 sensors
[22:33] <Bashing-om> kuju: All I see that is adverse is " ii  bbswitch-dkms " . Was BumbleBee installed at some point ?
[22:34] <Umeaboy> The reason that I choose to use a newer untested kernel is to see if the nouveau driver issue has been fixed upstream.
[22:36] <kuju> Bashing-om: Not to my knowledge. But if it's there maybe I pasted a suggested line from a SO page
[22:37] <Viseion> Is there still files so you can update packages on ubuntu 13.04
[22:37] <genii> Umeaboy: You may want to try first instead to use the xorg-edger PPA before trying to manually install a mainline kernel
[22:38] <Gghh> Hola
[22:38] <mcphail> Viseion: no
[22:38] <bprompt> Viseion:    http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/01/28/ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-end-of-life-reached-on-january-27-2014/
[22:38] <genii> !es | Gghh
[22:39] <Viseion> well when i try to  update to 14.xx it says Check your internet connection
[22:40] <OerHeks> 13.04 eol > 13.10 eol > 14.04 lts ..
[22:40] <OerHeks> i would reinstall.
[22:40] <genii> Viseion: 13.04 repositories have been archived now to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:40] <Viseion> my cd drive broke
[22:41] <genii> ( 13.10 has not, yet, but soon will be also)
[22:41] <Viseion> and nothing will install because it says this package requires installation from unauthenticated sources
[22:41] <Bashing-om> kuju: Just looks out of place to me . Not accustomed to seeing it in a nvidia output. To play it safe, lets purge all and start again . ' sudo apt-get purge bumble* nvidia* ' And again install the driver ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Reboot and we see what we got . At a later time we remove those old 304 config files .
[22:42] <Viseion> how would i update it to 13.10
[22:43] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[22:44] <kuju> Bashing-om: after the purge, bbswitch-dkms remains. I'll still try the ubuntu-drivers autoinstall and see what happens
[22:44] <genii> Viseion: See the second link that ubottu just gave, above
[22:44] <Bashing-om> kuju: K; doing some research at this time as to what bbswitch is .
[22:45] <kuju> Bashing-om: Thanks for the help :)
[22:48] <skreen> which fonts do you guys prefer?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> kuju: Well, not sure what is going on as " apt-cache show bbswitch-dkms >> Suggests: bumblebee " . I can believe that bbswitch conflicts with 'nvidia-prime' but, I do not know this for a fact .
[22:49] <kuju> Bashing-om: Strange. Not sure what put it there. Well, I've purged, re-installed drivers and rebooted. Same error.
[22:50] <Bashing-om> kuju: Nope. we are good ! " apt-cache rdepends bbswitch-dkms " will work with either .
[22:52] <Bashing-om> kuju: "Well, I've purged, re-installed drivers and rebooted. Same error." show me the error . See if I can see something there you do not (?) .
[22:53] <acer> how to move the toolbar below
[22:53] <kuju> Hmm. Not sure that the rdepends command you gave me is supposed to do, but it appears to have 3 items listed: bbswitch-dkms:i386, bumblebee, and nvidia-prime. Bumblebee has a bar next to it, making it look highlighted. As for the "same error" I mentioned, it's that I try to log in, get the drums sound and a flashing screen, and get returned back to the login screen
[22:54] <kuju> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12225944 is the contents of ~/.xsession-errors
[22:55] <Bashing-om> kuju: Nothing so far is amiss that I can see. What desktop are you running ? We start the desktop from terminal and see what the system reports . Then see what the log file(s) has to tell us .
[22:58] <Bashing-om> kuju: " update-notifier-crash " ??? .. what does the package manager advise from terminal ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . If the package manager is not happy we are in a world of hurt .
[22:58] <kuju> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS. Not sure how to start the desktop from terminal or where the system would report that
[22:58] <Viseion> could someone just tell me exactly how to upgrade from ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10
[22:59] <kuju> Bashing-om: I tried ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' yesterday, and had 0 changes. Same result today :S
[22:59] <Bashing-om> kuju: I do know a little bit. We start the desktop from the terminal ' sudo service lightdm start ' . The log file we want to look at ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[23:01] <Bashing-om> kuju: Do not know then what the .xsessions advisory is all about then . Package manager is happy, we go on about our way and see why the GUI does not start .
[23:01] <kuju> K here's /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12225998/
[23:02] <Umeaboy> Viseion: sudo apt-get update && sudo upgrade-manager
[23:02] <Umeaboy> Or is it update-manager
[23:02] <kuju> Bashing-om: Sorry failing to ping you when I post
[23:02] <Umeaboy> Well, try both.
[23:03] <Umeaboy> -t flag updates to unstable so don't use that unless you know what it'll do.
[23:04] <Viseion> querying software sources
[23:04] <Bashing-om> kuju: Reading, I be a while .
[23:04] <Viseion> failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[23:05] <genii> Viseion: As I think I've reiterated a few times to you now, you need to change your 13.04 repositories in your sources.list file to point to old-releases.ubuntu.com instead of whatever you have there currently.
[23:05] <Viseion> how do i do that
[23:05] <Viseion> sources.list is root
[23:06] <genii> Viseion: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:06] <Bashing-om> kuju: "/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-46-generic" Booting an old kernel, what is up with that ? Does ' sudo apt full-upgrade ' install the -62 kernel ?
[23:07] <Viseion> it did nothing...
[23:07] <genii> Viseion: After you've done that and saved the file: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:07] <genii> Viseion: After that: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:07] <kuju> Bashing-om: Mm... It does not upgrade the kernel. Is that a package manager issue, then?
[23:08] <mpower> hi everyone
[23:08] <genii> Viseion: Try gksu then instead of gksudo
[23:08] <mpower> did anyone has successfully undervolted a CPU under ubuntu 14.04?
[23:09] <mpower> I searched the web for a bit and it seems quite complex when compared to windows and we just open an app and thats it
[23:10] <Viseion> it says it is not installed
[23:10] <genii> Viseion: So then use the CLI editor instead:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:11] <Viseion> well when i took gk out and did sudo it worked
[23:11] <genii> Viseion: Do not use only sudo with graphical applications
[23:11] <Viseion> why not
[23:12] <genii> ..but that is a lecture I don't have time or patience for right now...
[23:12] <genii> !gksu
[23:12] <HexTq> tip: next time create separate partition for /home then just reinstall every new version you like
[23:12] <HexTq> saves you all the hassle with upgrading
[23:14] <Viseion> ibus-warning.... i dont care about warnings
[23:15] <Viseion> well the terminal is getting stuff from old-releases
[23:16] <Bashing-om> kuju: Yikes ! " it just dawned on me that " 3.16.0-46-generic " is the 14.10 kernel . And 14.10 is End_Of_Life . What release are you running ?
[23:16] <kuju> Bashing-om: 14.04
[23:18] <Viseion> i did the sudo nano thing now how do i save it
[23:19] <genii> Viseion: ctrl-x
[23:19] <HexTq> ctrl+x then yes
[23:20] <Bashing-om> kuju: K; then the next order of business - no matter else - is to get you up on a current supported kernel . ' sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid linux-image-generic-lts-vivid ' .
[23:21] <genii> Viseion: I have to leave, you should be fine from here on. If you run into issues another helper will have to assist.
[23:21] <dad> 566
[23:21] <Viseion> ty
[23:22] <dad> hl
[23:22] <kuju> Bashing-om: Mm.. it didn't like that http://paste.ubuntu.com/12226139/
[23:25] <OerHeks> i have seen these libcheese-gtk23 errors before this week
[23:26] <Viseion> its still saying failed to download repository information...
[23:27] <Bashing-om> kuju: OH Boy ! Lookin at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/12226139/ .
[23:28] <Bashing-om> kuju: I am look'n .. looks like we now know the original source of the problem. Now to find the solution. bear with me .
[23:29] <OerHeks> old bug .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1428972
[23:29] <kuju> Bashing-om: Thanks for bearing with me! I appreciate it
[23:29] <Viseion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12226168/     this is what sudo apt-get update gives me
[23:31] <OerHeks> Viseion, you didn't add the "old-releases" to your config file lines.
[23:32] <Viseion> where is that
[23:33] <OerHeks> come on, genii explained the whole thing to you.
[23:33] <OerHeks> time to read back
[23:33] <Viseion> is it in the same sources.list thing
[23:33] <Viseion> i hate ubuntu someone took my windows off and put on ubuntu 13.04
[23:34] <Viseion> and i hate the damn root access things
[23:34] <Viseion> and having to be connected to internet to do anything
[23:34] <OerHeks> ehh .. are you sure? when you boot, hold the shift key, to get into grub menu, windows might still be there...
[23:34] <usvi> hello. I'm having problems compiling stuff against libsmbcliend-dev on ubuntu 14.04.3 . has anybody else had problems?
[23:35] <Viseion> the entire dist was wiped
[23:35] <Viseion> disc
[23:35] <usvi> I get this:  http://pastebin.com/6e9W5Yzd
[23:35] <usvi> libsmbcliend-dev is installed
[23:36] <Viseion> and i somehow have two installations of ubuntu 13.04 one is 13.14 on the grub menu and when i load it i get about 0.5 fps
[23:36] <Viseion> this computer is very odd
[23:38] <usvi> compilation partly picks up the library, but the symbols are not found. on debian stable for compilation is ok
[23:38] <Viseion> but where are the rest of the things i have to change to old-releases
[23:40] <Bashing-om> kuju: As you can see there are 3 issues at play here . Let's try and addess the xserver issue 1st . Let's try ' sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' . See what the package manager advises !
[23:40] <Bashing-om> address*
[23:44] <kuju> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12226273
[23:44] <usvi> ok my error, I had linker definitions before object files in Makefile
[23:44] <Bashing-om> kuju: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/12226273 .
[23:47] <Bashing-om> kuju: Well, the plot thickens . Got to have that package . On my system " dpkg -l xserver-xorg >> ii  xserver-xorg   1:7.7+1ubunt amd64 ' . Looks like we have to deal with libcheese7 before we can address the xserver.
[23:48] <kuju> Bashing-om: Aight. I love cheese
[23:49] <Bashing-om> kuju: Let's do ' sudo apt-get purge libcheese7 ; sudo apt-get install libcheese7 ' . See how that effects the need to fix libcheese-gtk23 . Then maybe we can return to xserver .
[23:50] <Viseion> this computer is mental
[23:52] <kuju> Bashing-om: Okay, I'm seeing the pattern here. We're systematically purging and re-installing this dependency from the leaves to the root
[23:54] <chadwin> heyyyyyyyy everyone
[23:54] <kuju> Bashing-om: Good news! After refreshing libcheese7, the xserver-xorg reinstall worked
[23:54] <Viseion> does anyone know how to make a usb drive bootable without downloading and programs on ubuntu  13.04
[23:55] <HexTq> startup disk creator
[23:55] <Viseion> is that on ubuntu by default
[23:56] <HexTq> should be
[23:56] <HexTq> afaik
[23:56] <kuju> Bashing-om: Success now on installing the vivid packages you mentioned
[23:56] <kuju> Bashing-om: (but still on progress, stay tuned)
[23:57] <Viseion> yay it is
[23:57] <Bashing-om> kuju: Great .. I must be away for a short time . I will be back .
[23:58] <Viseion> and if i take the ubuntu install iso file and put it on a usb drive will it start like a cd with it would
[23:58] <HexTq> depends on your bios settings
[23:58] <Viseion> how would i make it
[23:58] <Viseion> like what settings
[23:59] <HexTq> boot disk priority
[23:59] <Viseion> need to be what
[23:59] <HexTq> boot sequence
[23:59] <Viseion> so usb boot first?
[23:59] <HexTq> or F12 after bios boot and select usb-hdd
[23:59] <HexTq> yes
[23:59] <Viseion> ok
[23:59] <Viseion> hopefully it works


[10:52] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[15:05] <Oderus> hey all. I like to use BURG bootloader instead of grub, or rather, in combination with, and in a fresh 18.10 install it tells me that it does not find a filesystem. Worked perfect in 18.04. Any ideas on how i could resolve this?
[17:26] <mattfly> What is a better screensaver? sddm always hangs with 100% cpu usage and im not able to unlock it
[17:33] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.  I'm having trouble with transferring files to my iPod using either Dolphin or rsync.  I get a mkstemp - invalid argument when I try.  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p8scFBpTd3/
[17:33] <DarthFrog> Does anyone have any idea why this is failing?
[17:33] <DarthFrog> The iPod is running Rockbox, BTW.


[02:52] <DaD> Wat se jull
[02:53] <DaD> DaD  Lo all.. Any sysops maintaining Ubuntu 14.04LTS AMP stack servers?
[03:17] <DaD> Fellow South Africans I need advice
[05:40] <nuvolari> o/ oh hi
[05:40] <nuvolari> chilly morning in CT o.O
[05:40] <Gremble> hello nuvolari
[05:40] <nuvolari> oh hi Gremble
[05:40] <Gremble> It is currently 2 in Pretoria. So I am afraid to get up
[05:42] <mazal> Morning everyone
[05:48] <Kilos> hi bduk1 mazal theblazehen Squirm nuvolari and others
[05:49] <mazal> Môre oom
[05:51] <bduk1> More almal
[05:59] <mazal> Guys how can I see on what port my samba is running ?
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[06:31] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: sudo netstat -plnt|grep samba
[06:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> replace "samba" with whatever process name may be
[06:32]  * ThatGraemeGuy doesn't do samba
[06:42] <mazal> Thanx ThatGraemeGuy , what you use for sharing ?
[06:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> nothing really
[06:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> have no need for file sharing
[07:04] <charl> good morning
[07:04] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[07:04]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:04] <Kilos> hi ChanServ
[07:04] <charl> haha Kilos
[07:04] <Kilos> ai!
[07:04] <charl> tab fail
[07:04] <charl> :D
[07:04] <Kilos> hi charl
[07:05] <Kilos> im typing one hand while other one wraps around a hot cup of coffee
[07:05] <charl> that's a good idea
[07:08] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[07:13] <Spekko> more Kilos
[07:13] <Kilos> hi Spekko welkom terug
[07:24] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[07:24] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[07:28] <Kilos> hi Gremble
[07:42] <Spekko> Kilos: danki dankie
[07:43] <Spekko> Donno if you guys know about this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad
[07:43] <Spekko> Guy wanted $10 for potato salad
[07:43] <Spekko> He's now sitting on $46k
[07:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmmmmmmmmm potato salad
[07:49]  * ThatGraemeGuy drools
[07:53] <Kilos> haha
[07:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: have you furnished your whole house yet? :)
[07:56] <Kilos> ai! ThatGraemeGuy you given me tons of work
[07:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[07:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah, i found i have to make my house bigger so i can make a bunch of rooms
[07:56] <Kilos> need to replace all plnk floors so new things dont float half a block up
[07:56] <Kilos> plank
[07:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> so i build up dirt all around my house, the house as it was will be my basement storage
[07:57] <Kilos> lol
[07:58] <Kilos> but i have 2 lazy boys so can rest offen hehe
[07:58] <Kilos> one up top in the sun weeee
[07:59] <Kilos> did you add that new thing ThatGraemeGuy ?
[07:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> which one?
[07:59] <Kilos> that will only work with new mines
[07:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, no
[08:00] <Kilos> sorry i went off early last night. it was just too cold here
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://technic.kosyak.info/
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's the stuff the mod adds
[08:00] <Kilos> im even using mirrors outside to reflect sun into my room for some warmth
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> chromium, granite, marble and zinc would on ly generate in map chunks that are newly generated, i.e. where nobody has been before
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> and we would have to "cheat" a bit to get rubber trees, i don't think they would start generating on an existing map
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't think i'm going to bother
[08:02] <Kilos> np we explore and make new mines and roads. just need the teleport thing to get home and back quicker
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe one day if we decide to start a new map
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can already use the inventory "go home" button, i have lost count of how many times i explained that
[08:04] <Kilos> yes man i do now ty. got caught a few times because i clicked it to set home where i planted trees underground, but its one way only
[08:05] <Kilos> if it could set more than one home point that would be ideal
[08:06] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[08:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> there is a teleporter mod i can look into
[08:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> you place a teleport pad and then enter the co-ords where it teleports to
[08:07] <Kilos> please do when you have some time
[08:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> we can build a nice teleport pad network
[08:08] <Kilos> ya like between our houses
[08:09] <Kilos> central to us all that is
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> we can build a nice little building near the spawn point which can be the central teleportation station
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> from there a pad that teleports to significant places
[08:09] <Kilos> cool
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> like houses, pyramid, deep mine, whatever
[08:10] <Kilos> that would be great, if it will take co-ords for starters
[08:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2149
[08:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> you enter co-ords and you can add a descriptive name too
[08:10] <Kilos> wonderful
[08:11] <Kilos> whew more to learn
[08:12] <Vince-0> g'day ubuntu-za
[08:12] <Kilos> add more large bags
[08:13] <Kilos> or make it so each bag can carry 4 more without emptying each before moving
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> 4 large bags is enough
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> what do you need to carry? :-o
[08:17] <Kilos> oh my, there is just so much, i spend half my time fetching from chests and bags and thats lots of work because they first have to go into inventory
[08:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> i just can't imagine what you need to carry so much of, my bags are not typically full
[08:18] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> you never need to carry stone, because there's always a million tons of it just under your feet if you need it
[08:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> also another tip, i don't carry steel ingots, 9 steel ingots makes a steel block, and you can convert it to ingots again as you need to
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> same with planks and sticks
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't carry a lot of sticks, just carry a lot of wood straight from the tree
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> 1 wood = 4 planks and 1 plank = 4 sticks
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> so for every stack of 99 tree cuttings, you can make 99x16 sticks
[08:21] <Kilos> ya i try that
[08:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> so it doesn't make sense to carry sticks
[08:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> make them and use them as you need them, just carry a 10 or so stacks of wood
[08:25] <Kilos> its like going somewhere by car and when getting there finding you left something at home
[08:25] <Kilos> im already filling my house with chests
[08:25] <Kilos> but teleport will help for forgotten items
[08:30] <Kilos> oh just a thought
[08:30] <Kilos> cant you unexplore the parts of the map where we arent working yet?
[08:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> no
[08:31] <Kilos> then add the new thing and we re-explore them
[08:31] <Kilos> oi
[08:31] <Kilos> well then we just explore further thats all
[08:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> how it works is that the whole map isn't generated when you start a new world
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> as you move around the map is generated in "chunks"
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> a chunk is a cube
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think 5x5x5 blocks or something like that
[08:32] <Kilos> ok
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> and as soon as a chunk is generated it is stored in the map database
[08:33] <Kilos> ok lets think
[08:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> so if you add a mod that generates new types of ore, those ores are only generated in newly generated map chunks
[08:33] <Kilos> you still have the flys original map before you went exploring in the north right?
[08:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm not rolling back to an old map
[08:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> every single person who plays would be mad if we did that
[08:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> might as well start a new world then
[08:34] <Kilos> ok you gotta bare with me a bit
[08:35] <Kilos> can one starts a new map and then put existing data in at will?
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can start a new world and retain everyone's personal inventory and bags
[08:36] <Kilos> oh not their homes and so on?
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> but you lose all chest contents as those are stored in the map, not the players
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> no
[08:36] <Kilos> oi
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> lets say your home has a block at 100,35,-100 co-ord
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> but maybe on your new map, those co-ords end up being nothing
[08:37] <Kilos> ok!
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> then your home is in the sky
[08:37] <Kilos> ah
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> plus in the map database there's just a lot of blocks
[08:37] <Kilos> and those blocks arent replacable at will?
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> from the maps point of view 100,35,-100 is a block of type default:cobble for instance
[08:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> but it doesn't know if someone placed that there or if that's how it was originally generated
[08:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> its just millions and millions of blocks
[08:39] <Kilos> im trying to get a picture of how you are seeing it
[08:39] <Kilos> a pile of blocks right?
[08:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> ai
[08:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can't do what you want to do, that's all
[08:39] <Kilos> sorry
[08:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you generate a new world thats a new map
[08:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can only keep things directly related to a player
[08:40] <Kilos> ok then we just explore new places after new mod is in
[08:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> so whatever is currently in your inventory and bags
[08:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes, you can just go start a mine somewhere and before long you will find the new stuff
[08:41] <Kilos> cool
[08:42] <Kilos> we just have to travel more then thats all
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> you don't even have to, just mine straight down in a spot that hasn't been mined yet
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> chunks are not very big, so by about -20 or so you should start seeing new stuff
[08:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> or if you're at the deep, just go down the shaft a bit to around -64 or so and start mining off horizontally
[08:44] <Kilos> oh is the mod in already?
[08:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> no
[08:44] <Kilos> ok
[08:47] <Kilos> the plasma light thing is cool
[08:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> you made one?
[08:47] <Kilos> yeah makes different colours
[08:48] <Kilos> put it above my desk so can read in psycadelic colours hehe
[08:48] <Kilos> i think i left an h out there
[09:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> that teleporter mod doesn't work
[09:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> it was written 2 years ago and never updated
[09:03] <Kilos> oi
[09:04] <Kilos> maybe they can add another button near the home button called places
[09:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: are you the only one playing
[09:37] <Kilos> yip i can go off
[09:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> thanks
[09:37] <Kilos> gone
[09:37] <Kilos> i go do something in the sun
[09:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm done, server back up
[09:55] <Kilos> cool ty ThatGraemeGuy what did you do?
[09:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://technic.kosyak.info/ <-- added that
[09:56] <Kilos> cool
[09:57] <Kilos> just now you will be making nukes
[09:57] <Kilos> i see there are blast resistant blocks you can try hehe
[10:00] <Kilos> i go see how things work on kde
[10:00] <Kilos> wbb
[10:41] <charl> hmmm kartoffelsalat
[10:41] <charl> now i'm also hungry
[10:53] <Rynomster> hi charl, hi Kilos
[11:10] <charl> hi Rynomster
[11:10] <Rynomster> hows it going in ubuntu land? :)
[11:20] <mazal> Does Ubuntu see a 4TB drive ? Or only 2TB ?
[11:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> 4TB ought to be fine, but you will have to use GPT partitioning
[11:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> installer should be smart enough to know that though
[11:25] <mazal> if I want to format it without installer ? For example adding a 4TB drive for storage
[11:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> parted or gparted will work
[11:26] <mazal> k ta
[11:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> fdisk does not do GPT
[11:26] <mazal> The disks app should work then also ?
[11:26] <Kilos> hi Rynomster
[11:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: i'm not familiar with it
[11:28] <Rynomster> Maaz: supp
[11:28] <Maaz> Rynomster: Huh?
[11:28] <Rynomster> :P
[11:29] <mazal> oom Kilos , how did you build a table ?
[11:29] <Kilos> yes mazal  what a job
[11:29] <mazal> I find furnishing my houses frustrating , only so much you can do with square blocks :(
[11:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> home decor mod has a ton of home furnishing stuff
[11:30] <Kilos> you first gotta make small round ones then small square ones then only large table
[11:30] <mazal> Will look into that ta Greame
[11:30] <Kilos> mazal  have you upgraded to minetestc55
[11:30] <mazal> I'm busy with a HUGE building that will have lots of rooms
[11:30] <Kilos> lol
[11:31] <mazal> Haven't received an update nope
[11:31] <Kilos> you have to purge the old one then install the new one after adding the ppa
[11:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: if you are using boats and tnt mods you should remove them, as they are now included in the default game
[11:36] <mazal> I don't understand , I already have the PPA , why doesn't it update ?
[11:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> the package name changes
[11:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> *changed
[11:36] <Symmetria> quick question
[11:37] <Symmetria> if I'm setting up an authorized_keys file with the keys specified on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors/PushMirroring
[11:37] <Symmetria> whats the exact format of the authorized_keys file
[11:37] <Symmetria> what do I need to paste etc
[11:37] <mazal> So I must remove minetest and install mintestc55 ?
[11:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: yes
[11:39] <mazal> The ppa stayed the same ?
[11:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> minetestdevs/stable
[11:40] <mazal> http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/stable/ubuntu trusty main
[11:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's the one
[11:40] <mazal> That's the one I have already
[11:40] <mazal> kewl
[11:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't forget to stop your server first
[11:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe obvious, but you never know ;-)
[11:40] <mazal> Ai , and I just thought my work for the week is done :P
[11:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> and make a backup of your ~/.minetest dir
[11:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> hey, you want to run your own apartheid server, then you must do the work :P
[11:41] <mazal> lol
[11:41] <mazal> I just finished last night putting the machine in , setting up all the backups etc etc etc
[11:42] <mazal> Would have rested this weekend :P
[11:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> Symmetria: the line beginning with "no-port-forwarding..." is what you paste into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[11:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> ~/.shh/authorized_keys expects 1 key per line, with space-separated fields options, key-type, key-data, comment
[11:57] <Symmetria> ok, thanks :)
[12:03] <mazal> E: Package 'minetestc55' has no installation candidate
[12:11] <mazal> Found the problem , for some reason unknown my ppa was hashed out
[12:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> oops :-)
[13:10] <Kilos> wow ThatGraemeGuy  the fridge can carry tons, better than large bags'
[13:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> um
[13:11] <Kilos> better to put a fridge on your back hehe
[13:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> bags can be carried around
[13:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> haha
[13:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> technic mod adds a wrench that can apparently pick up items with inventory
[13:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> so usually you could only put a chest in your inventory if it was empty
[13:12] <Kilos> yes
[13:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> from what i understand the wrench tool allows you to put a full chest in your inventory, with its contents
[13:12] <Kilos> has that changed?
[13:12] <Kilos> ah so we gotta make wrenches
[13:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> seems so
[13:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> you figure it out & report back :P
[13:13] <Kilos> yay then uyou can add a few full bags to inventory
[13:13] <Kilos> will do, just gonna fetch sheep
[14:31] <Kilos> oi ThatGraemeGuy  link for your map please. i got the wrong link here on kde
[14:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://mt.donaldson.za.net/
[14:32] <Kilos> ty
[14:53] <Kilos> ooo found big lava again
[14:53] <Cantide> :D
[14:53] <Cantide> did you eat it?
[14:54] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[14:54] <Kilos> na it burns
[15:31] <Gremble> It only burns the first time
[15:37] <Kilos> haha
[15:38] <Kilos> inetpro  go home man its cold outside and temp dropping quick
[15:38] <Kilos> yo Tonberry_
[15:38] <Tonberry_> hello
[17:30] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:42] <Kilos> oi net splits again
[18:18] <Kilos> oi the internet be sicker tonight
[18:39] <charl> hi Kilos
[18:39] <charl> good evening
[18:39] <charl> whow busy day for me so on a friday
[18:39] <Kilos> hi charl
[18:39] <charl> lots of problems at work :(
[18:39] <Kilos> ai!
[18:39] <charl> you would say it's friday be quite :D
[18:39] <charl> quiet sorry
[18:39] <Kilos> lol
[18:40] <charl> i don't speaku engerishu
[18:42] <Symmetria> sup
[18:55] <charl> hey Symmetria
[19:11] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[04:18] <Fudge> AlanBell  precise doesnt seem to keyboard navigate tabs in dialog boxes
[04:18] <Fudge> i find have to flat review and simulate click
[04:27] <Fudge> resolved now with updates
[17:01]  * AlanBell wonders if there will be a release of onboard in time for precise
[17:28] <AlanBell> onboard trunk is worth trying to get in
[17:29] <AlanBell> it pops up when you are in an editable field and fades away when you are not, which is a bit of a killer feature. It also has the model-m and typist themes which are just awesome imnsho