[05:41] <Ben64> it's been out of support for almost 4 years now
[05:41] <yourimym1> what is sudo for conky to use the file i made ?
[05:41] <skyler> shush, it's doing fine and don't make it feel bad. 6.06 has emtions too you know
[05:41] <Wing__> usr13: i've been in and out of hatches and can't see the physical router as such ... found a switch but looks unmanaged
[05:41] <dr_willis> my 8-track tape player was so nice...
[05:41] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  you DONT use sudo with conky
[05:41] <usr13> Wing__: Ok, it's probably one of a couple IPs, so let's just test and see.  First try this:  sudo dhclient eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>;ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:41] <Ben64> skyler: it probably has tons of security holes
[05:42] <dr_willis> conky --config=/the/path/to/your/config
[05:42] <skyler> like i give a shit about security on a 4chan browser machine
[05:42] <Wing__> usr13: would wireshark help finding observed network ranges?
[05:42] <insomniac_lemon> Ben64 I figured out how to do it, but not how to fit it in the Xorg.conf file, and like I said, it's buggy with applications compared to overscan compensation that works perfectly.
[05:42] <usr13> Wing__: I dono
[05:42] <skyler> so dr_willis what should I do then?
[05:42] <Ben64> insomniac_lemon: or set your tv to not do overscan?
[05:43] <usr13> Wing__: Did you try <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:43] <insomniac_lemon> Ben64, my TV does not have the option to not overscan.
[05:43] <dr_willis> skyler:  ive no idea what you are trying to do... you keep jumping around..
[05:43] <skyler> sudo dd if=[iso] of=/dev/sda bs=4m
[05:43] <skyler> will that work okay?
[05:43] <skyler> I'm not really sure how to dd
[05:43] <dr_willis> that will put the iso on sda.. whatever sda is..
[05:43] <Ben64> insomniac_lemon: almost every hdtv does
[05:43] <dr_willis> if you are SURE its the usb flash. ;)
[05:43] <Wing__> usr13: im back on shore now so can't until tomorrow, I was hoping than rather going through setting static ip's and nmap across private ranges there might be something quicker
[05:43] <nick_h> Ubuntu configures rsyslog to run as syslog:adm rather than root:root . how bad is it to change that so that rsyslog runs as root:root ?
[05:43] <skyler> and it will overwrite whatever's already on the flash?
[05:43] <usr13> Wing__:   sudo dhclient eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>;ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:44] <dr_willis> Flash will be erased.. yes
[05:44] <skyler> should I format the flashplayer first?
[05:44] <dr_willis> Flash will be erased........
[05:44] <dr_willis> no need to format it.. for it ti get erased again
[05:44] <usr13> Wing__: I don't know.  I've yet to come up against a problem like that.
[05:45] <angs> what is a good program on ubuntu to use for verilog programming?
[05:45] <packetfrog> How do i make the black area when running Cairo go away!?
[05:45] <dr_willis> packetfrog:  use a desktop/window manager that has compositing i belive
[05:45]  * Tex_Nick still has an 8 track player ... with about 30 tapes ... jeeze that stuff really sucked :-(
[05:45] <insomniac_lemon> Ben64: well Mine is an older HDTV. It doesn't have the option. I can increase/decrease overscan and its offset, but that's it. On HDMI with my computer, the overscan is locked in a 0, which I'm guessing is not actually no overscan.
[05:46] <packetfrog> dr_willis compiz hates me apparently
[05:46] <dr_willis> skyler:  i think its bs=4M  not m.. but it may not matter
[05:46] <packetfrog> :/
[05:46] <Wing__> usr13: it's quite unique problem ;) just doesn't help when equipment is all over the place, would have been nice if they had a frame room with all the equipment on a rack but no
[05:46] <skyler> what does that do, exactly?
[05:46] <skyler> the bs=4m
[05:46] <dr_willis> block size.
[05:46] <usr13> Wing__: I don't think you can use wireshark or nmap without being connected to a network.
[05:46] <skyler> I just started it without it, should I cancel and redo with that?
[05:46] <dr_willis> otherwise it uses like a 1k blobk.. and will take 100x as long
[05:46] <skyler> oh shit okay
[05:46] <dr_willis> it shouldent take too long anyway.
[05:46] <rjx1> how to remove web apps like gmail and facebook in ubuntu 12.10
[05:46] <IdleOne> skyler: please keep the language clean
[05:47] <dr_willis> rjx1:  right click on the icon and unpin them?
[05:47] <Wing__> usr13: i thought promiscous (spelling) effectively just put the network device in listening regardless of ip being assigned or not.. i could be wrong
[05:47] <dr_willis> webapps dont even s seem to work here any more.
[05:47] <insomniac_lemon> does "sudo apt-get autoremove" remove files that an application has created?
[05:47] <dr_willis> insomniac_lemon:  no.
[05:48] <dr_willis> insomniac_lemon:  the apt system does not touch files the users have made with the apps either.
[05:48] <sSs> sudo apt-get purge $package-name
[05:48] <dr_willis> be sort of weird if removeing gedit.. removed every text file..
[05:48] <insomniac_lemon> dr_willis, is there a way I can remove files that removed applications created without manually doing it?
[05:48] <skyler> just under a minute. That was fast!
[05:48] <dr_willis> insomniac_lemon:  'remove files' is a broad statement.. what files exactly?
[05:49] <yourimym1> how to kill conky from terminal
[05:49] <insomniac_lemon> No, I mean files that the application created and USES, as in configuration files, ect.
[05:49] <skyler> well gonna try to install this now. Wish me luck!
[05:49] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  ctrl-c or killall conky
[05:49] <dr_willis> from a differnt term
[05:49] <rjx1> unpin not work
[05:49] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[05:50] <usr13> Wing__: Reading: http://www.wireshark.org/faq.html#q7.6
[05:50] <yourimym1> thx
[05:50] <Ubuntu_noobi> Hi ya'll
[05:50] <Ubuntu_noobi> Wow, first time in an IRC... Excuse my noobiness
[05:51] <sSs> hiya Ubuntu_noobi. got something good for us?
[05:51] <Ubuntu_noobi> Question about media after converting from Vista to 12.10
[05:52] <aeon-ltd> Ubuntu_noobi: go on...
[05:52] <usr13> Wing__: Looks like [maybe] "sudo ifconfig -promisc eth0"  (Reading man ifconfig).. "Enable or disable the promiscuous mode of the interface.  If selected, all packets on the network will be received by the interface."
[05:52] <Wing__> usr13: awesome thank you .... will give it a go and see - thanks for your assistance
[05:53] <Ubuntu_noobi> WHen I was sorting thru my file folders,  none of my pictures or videos were available.  Do I need to move the media to a thumbdrive and reload from Vista to Ubuntu?
[05:53] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  some interesting info and examples here --> http://forum.pinguyos.com/Forum-Conky-How-to-Guides
[05:53] <dr_willis> Ubuntu_noobi:  your vista files are on your windows partions..
[05:54] <dr_willis> Ubuntu_noobi:  it should be shown at the left side of the file manager.
[05:54] <Ubuntu_noobi> Same with my contacts in THunderbird.  Once I synced my Gmail, none of my contacts were visible.  Do I need to move them manually as well?
[05:54] <herry> hello
[05:54] <rkhshm> Is anyone aware of the aio_read aio_write() calls
[05:54] <rkhshm> i have some doubts i want to clear
[05:55] <Ubuntu_noobi> Dr. Willis:  Will they not appear in the folders themselves?
[05:55] <dr_willis> Ubuntu_noobi:  the ubuntu install does NOT copy files over from your windows install any more.  You go to the windows hard drive and access them..
[05:55] <dr_willis> the Ubuntu install knows nothing aboyut what you are doing on windows.
[05:56] <Ubuntu_noobi> dr. willis: so I will need to manually move them?
[05:56] <usr13> Wing__: Actually, after you put your NIC in promiscuous mode, you should just be able to run tcpdump for a while and find what you need.
[05:56] <dr_willis> or access them on the windows drive
[05:56] <Ubuntu_noobi> forgive my noobiness
[05:56] <Wing__> usr13: sounds like a battle plan to me ;)
[05:56] <dr_willis> your windows hd should be shown in the file managers icons/left side bars
[05:56] <Ubuntu_noobi> thx dr.
[05:57] <usr13> Wing__: Yep.  (We both learned something here....)
[05:57] <usr13> Ok, gotta turn in for the night.  ttyl
[05:57] <herry> i want to know9 what CDMA type modem work on Ubuntu??) i want to try. Now i online with GSM modem
[05:57] <Wing__> usr13: finding out how the systems are configured is just a mission since we can't get hold of the original owners or skipper and since we imported it from another country - yeah a lot to figure out
[05:57] <Ace4604> Hello?
[05:57] <herry> hello too
[05:58] <Ace4604> Hey, could anyone help me on a steam for linux problem?
[05:58] <ga_sk8er> good luck Ace...im having issues with steam too
[05:58] <Ace4604> Lol
[05:58] <dr_willis> Ace4604:  whats the exact problem? there is the #ubuntu-steam channel but its often dead.
[05:58] <Ace4604> Alright, well
[05:59] <Ace4604> I open the package installer for steam
[05:59] <Ace4604> and get this
[05:59] <Ace4604> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6 (>= 2.15)
[05:59] <Ace4604> I've updated the distro
[05:59] <Ace4604> and restarted
[05:59] <Ace4604> I don't know where to go from here.
[05:59] <basilis2009> kalimera se oloys
[05:59] <ga_sk8er> my video works fine on everything but when i  open the steam client it dont show right. cant view some of the butoons like "ok" or "cancel" & cant see display picture for me or my friends. instead i see a white box wher they should be
[05:59] <ga_sk8er> *buttons
[06:00] <Wing__> usr13: thanks again
[06:00] <Ace4604> Any ideas on where I should go?
[06:01] <Ubuntu_noobi> i know nothing
[06:01] <Ubuntu_noobi> where can I read additional material about where a noob should start?
[06:01] <dr_willis> !manual | Ubuntu_noobi
[06:02] <ga_sk8er> Ace4604 u  say u checked for updates?
[06:02] <dr_willis> Ace4604:  someone else had that same issue yesterday.. i dont know how they fixed it.
[06:02] <Ubuntu_noobi> ubottu:  thx so much!
[06:02] <Ace4604> Yes
[06:02] <dr_willis> Ace4604:  what ubuntu version are you using?
[06:02] <Ace4604> I checked for updates
[06:02] <Ace4604> Umm...
[06:02] <Ubuntu_noobi> lol
[06:02] <Ace4604> I think 12.04
[06:02] <Ace4604> Is there a certain way to check?
[06:02] <dr_willis> !version
[06:03] <Ace4604> !version
[06:03] <Ace4604> ah
[06:03] <Ace4604> 10.04
[06:03] <Ace4604> Thats what I have.
[06:03] <Ace4604> That probably is the problem.....
[06:04] <Ace4604> well hey! I think thats the next step
[06:04] <Ace4604> Thank you for the help
[06:04] <ga_sk8er> yeah they say steam runs best on 12.04
[06:04] <Ace4604> I need to backup my files on here
[06:04] <Ace4604> May take a bit
[06:04] <Ace4604> But thanks for the help!
[06:04] <ga_sk8er> im still trying to figure out my video issue. thinking of typing an angry letter to ATI...using bird fingers
[06:05] <ga_sk8er> how do i install an rpm package?
[06:05] <insomniac_lemon> Alright, I fixed it. I had to do 'sudo apt-get autoremove' after I removed all of the drivers.
[06:05] <stan879nz> i have better luck using ati than nvidia
[06:06] <ga_sk8er> my driver is an rpm file so if i can install that file, i  might have mine working
[06:06] <insomniac_lemon> But why will Steam run with non-proprietary (generic?) drivers, but not 295.40?
[06:07] <apb1963> what's the proper way to redirect stderr?  I tried both >& and 2>&1 but neither seemed to capture it.
[06:07] <Delux> I keep being told that fdisk is outdated and I need to use a different ultilty. how do I list all partitions on all drives without using fdisk -l
[06:07] <stan879nz> Hello im after a program that will let me multi launch a program if any one could help me out that would be great
[06:07] <ga_sk8er> i installed alien but when i  insert the filename it says that name doesnt exist
[06:08] <dr_willis> a rpm driver file - is very unlikely to work
[06:09] <ga_sk8er> its the only driver i can find....i installed jockey & it cant find one so im getting the driver ATI has
[06:09] <dr_willis> Delux:  parted. or gparted are   the reccomended tools these days
[06:09] <dr_willis> parted has a -l option
[06:09] <dr_willis> using an rpm of an ati driver - is definatly not a good idea
[06:09] <insomniac_lemon> ga_sk8er, are you using the right version of Jockey?
[06:09] <stan879nz> ga_sk8er what gfx card do you have
[06:10] <ga_sk8er> im using the version that of jockey that came from the ubuntu software center
[06:10] <Delux> ok dr_jesus
[06:10] <ga_sk8er> maybe jockey didnt install...idk
[06:10] <Delux> ok dr_willis
[06:10] <Delux> thanks
[06:10] <ga_sk8er> software center shows it installed
[06:10] <yourimym1> dr_willis:  i've allowed /home/.conkyrc as executable but having same prob
[06:10] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  .conkyrc does not need to be executable
[06:10] <ga_sk8er> stan879nz its a radeon 9200 pro
[06:11] <insomniac_lemon> ga_sk8er: make sure you are using the gtk version, not the kde version?
[06:11] <ga_sk8er> idk theres 2 versions
[06:11] <ga_sk8er> i only saw 1 listed in software version
[06:11] <dr_willis> conky -c /home/willis/.conkyrc            (in my case to run conky using my config)
[06:11] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  conky -c /home/willis/.conkyrc            (in my case to run conky using my config)
[06:12] <insomniac_lemon> ga_sk8er, try the one labeled  (jockey-gtk) if you have the other one installed
[06:12] <ga_sk8er> i have both jockeys on my machine...should i  delete the kde?
[06:13] <dr_willis> either jocky does the same job..
[06:13] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 gnome classic de ... using a single monitor & compiz qube ( i know it's lame, but i need it at times ) ... if i connect a second monitor ... how would that work ... cube would have to be disabeled ?
[06:13] <PadNet_201> excellent question
[06:13] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  cubew can work with 2 monitors.. it can look UGLY also. ;)
[06:13] <stan879nz> Hello im after a program that would let me log in wow two or more times
[06:14] <Gerowen> Can somebody tell me how I can revoke an old OpenPGP key I published to the Ubuntu servers with a computer that is no longer functioning?
[06:14] <Gerowen> I don't have a copy of the private key on my new computer, and have generated a new Key, so I just want to remove the old one.
[06:14] <yourimym1> dr_willis: thx again
[06:14] <ga_sk8er> how am i to run jockey? im sure its a terminal command like 99% of the other programs
[06:14] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  this is a nifty littke conly setup -> http://forum.pinguyos.com/Thread-Conky-Colors-8-released
[06:15] <dr_willis> ga_sk8er:  jockey-gtk, or jockey-cli   i recall
[06:15] <ga_sk8er> no proprietary drivers
[06:16] <ga_sk8er> brb...got a warning in my corner...need 2 restart for some updates
[06:17] <darkhelmet46> how do i change servers?
[06:17] <rexwin_> hi lsof -i:25 is not working, why
[06:18] <rexwin_> though MTA working on 25 is listening
[06:18] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : i'm sitting here trying to visualize that UGLY look ... i just gotta try this :-)
[06:19] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  i recall it appearing right in the middle of the 2 monoitors befor.. so the bezels were in the way
[06:20] <ga_sk8er> ok i rebooted
[06:22] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : ok sounds kinda non-functional then ... how about using 4 workspaces then on two monitors ... how would that work ?
[06:24] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  2 monitors give you one WIDE workspace.. you woul dhave 4 very wide workspaces
[06:26] <ruslan_osmanov> Hi. How do I install virtualbox guest additions on Ubuntu Server guest without GUI?
[06:26] <robotnut> apt-get?
[06:26] <ruslan_osmanov> I know about virtualbox-guest-additions package. But it pulls x11
[06:26] <ruslan_osmanov> I just want shared folders function
[06:27] <dr_willis> You can just use samba or nfs or even sshfs to have shared access to the vm instance
[06:27] <dr_willis> no need for the guest addation special shares
[06:27] <ruslan_osmanov> some kind of port forwarding you mean? Hmm, maybe
[06:28] <dr_willis> Err.. you can set up samba or nfs same as you woile between 2 real machines
[06:29] <dr_willis> You can even set the  vbox to show on the local lans range of ips if you want other machines to access it.
[06:30] <fullusr> hi
[06:30] <fullusr> my sound is not working
[06:30] <sSs> sudo lspci
[06:30] <fullusr> as in no sound via any output
[06:30] <robotnut> ctrl + alt + del
[06:31] <sSs> ^ this guy isnt very helpful
[06:31] <chinoto> ruslan_osmanov: with sshfs, the vm would be running an ssh server, then people can mount a directory in the vm like this "sshfs USER@VM_IP:REMOTE_DIR LOCAL_DIR"
[06:31] <apb1963> what's the proper way to redirect stderr from the shell?
[06:31] <fullusr> i pastebin the output _
[06:31] <fullusr> or no
[06:31] <sSs> that would help
[06:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Having trouble understanding launchpad. I have a project that I want divided into 5 branches, some of which will be closed source. Do I do this with a single project, and create 5 bazaar branches, (which I don't understand given  mixed licences) or do I create multiple projects on launchpad, each dealing with a particular branch and its project?
[06:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad>  The reason why I ask is because launchpad is not letting me create multiple projects saying that they are duplicates.
[06:32] <chinoto> apb1963: "command 2> /dev/null" or "command 2>&1"
[06:32] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : i've been working off a physical desk 2Ft x 3Ft for a year now ... in a couple hours it should be big enough for2 monitors ... as always thanks for the feedback sir :-)
[06:32] <ga_sk8er> now my steam wont even open
[06:32] <fullusr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1669351/
[06:32] <apb1963> thanks chinoto... did that.. not sure why it didn't work.  Maybe I typoed.  Oh well... thank you.
[06:33] <fullusr> HP G4 1270
[06:33] <chinoto> apb1963: maybe the ampersand is supposed to go before the 2 and not the 1...
[06:33] <apb1963> is it?
[06:33] <chinoto> I don't know for sure
[06:33] <fullusr> AMD Vision (fusion) E2 APU
[06:33] <fullusr> IDT HD Audio
[06:34] <apb1963> well, that would be news to me... but... stranger things have happened.
[06:34] <ga_sk8er> im thinking of formatting & starting over on another pc
[06:34] <chinoto> apb1963: looks like that was right
[06:35] <apb1963> what if I want to pipe it  through tee?   command | tee 2>&1 out.txt   ???  I can never remember that one
[06:36] <fullusr> sss  anythin wrong with the output
[06:37] <sSs> iinstall ALSA mixer and make sure its not turned down. that should be working. (unless your talking about the HDMI audio which might not)
[06:37] <xboxlinux> hi
[06:37] <fullusr> hi
[06:37] <sSs> my azalia doesnt work either since AMD put it down to legacy pasture
[06:38] <ubuntu-studio> I attempted to remove xfce from ubuntustudio and install fluxbox  now my system just hangs,  any hints? :/
[06:38] <xboxlinux> anyone know how to code or script , so i can batch install apps  by writting it
[06:38] <dr_willis> hangs where?
[06:39] <sSs> my advise would be to try ubuntu 12.04 as that is known good for the azalia
[06:39] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  a simple script with  lots of 'sudo apt-get install foobar thisapp thatapp'  lines is all you need
[06:39] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  hi long time no see.
[06:39] <ubuntu-studio> after ubuntustudio splash screen it goes away and is loading things and saying ok  then just sits  but the SECOND i hit my power buttn it shuts down properly   wont do anything else
[06:39] <sSs> are you using EXT2?
[06:40] <chinoto> apb1963: you would say "command 2>&1 | command2"
[06:40] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu-studio: if u hit power buton for 1sec and it shuts down, that is bad
[06:40] <sSs> have you unplugged the USb devices?
[06:40] <Ubuntu_noobi> anyone know anything about Gwibber?
[06:40] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu-studio: its supposed to take 4sec
[06:40] <dr_willis> see if you can get to the consoles.. alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 and get a login prompt.
[06:40] <ubuntu-studio> I mean it responds to the button immediately.
[06:40] <sSs> ubuntu-studio, what file system and have you tried roving all usb devices
[06:41] <ubuntu-studio> ext4
[06:41] <ubuntu-studio> dr_willis Will do. :) I did try the first  not the rest of the f keys though
[06:41] <ubuntu-studio> no usb untill i wanted to boot to ask here... :p
[06:41] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  can you pastebin and  sample? oh and also how do i go about the script so that every app will be asked if i want to install.
[06:41] <Ubuntu_noobi> cant seem to switch between my twitter and FB accounts.... Only showing twitter... plz help
[06:41] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu-studio: sSs may be right. i have to disconnect all of my usb devices to make my computer boot. as soon as it passes black screen i have to hook them back up during splash screen
[06:42] <ubuntu-studio> There are no usb devices  its just my laptop   and power cable
[06:42] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  i gave you a szmple line... 'sudo apt-get install vim'   or whagtever it is you want to install.
[06:42] <AcidRain2012> Ubuntu_noobi: no relation here man. http://google.com
[06:42] <dr_willis> if you want them to ask.. you need to  pay attention and it will ask i belive.. tell it no. ;)
[06:42] <fullusr> i only see s/pdif
[06:42] <Ubuntu_noobi> Sorry, looking at Gwibber
[06:43] <dr_willis>    Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[06:43] <fullusr> something gone awwry
[06:43] <dr_willis> say n ;)
[06:43] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,
[06:43] <ubuntu-studio> brb
[06:43] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : thinking about your last post to me ... Tex_Nick:  2 monitors give you one WIDE workspace.. you woul dhave 4 very wide workspaces ... that indicates to me that again the bezels would be in the center of each workspace ???
[06:44] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  they can be.. unless the apps do things correctlyu
[06:44] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  vim means?
[06:44] <dr_willis> !info vim
[06:44] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  apt-get install PACKAGENAME
[06:44] <AcidRain2012> yeah. when i run 2 monitors. sometimes a few apps will open in the center
[06:44] <fullusr> sSS
[06:45] <sSs> ?
[06:45] <fullusr> sSS , i checked and nothing is muted
[06:46] <sSs> me id go with 12.04 as i know that one properly supports it. it should be working. have you installed the AMD proprietary drivers? if so remove em
[06:46] <fullusr> enlightenment (i set up e desktop ) sound manager detect my card also
[06:46] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  so if i want vlc chrome an skpye  do i call this as there name or the dev nameing?
[06:46] <fullusr> and everything has volume
[06:47] <sSs> also try turning up the volume in the indicater volume thingy. i use ubuntu studio and sometimes theres no sound untill i mess with the slider
[06:47] <ruslan_osmanov> chinoto, thank you. It helped. I also had to pass some options: -o allow_other -o gid=1000 -o uid=1000
[06:47] <fullusr> no , no luck
[06:48] <blackshirt> !info jarwrapper
[06:49] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : i've never used a VM enviornment ... is that what i should use for dual monitor setup on 12.10 ?
[06:50] <chinoto> ruslan_osmanov: huh, I did "idmap=user" to fix permission problems, though maybe your problem is different
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> Tex_Nick: no.
[06:50] <xboxlinux> virtualbox
[06:50] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  is afk
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> Tex_Nick: what gfx card do you have?
[06:51] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  a vm?  that dosent have anything to do with dual monitors really.
[06:51] <AcidRain2012> Tex_Nick: setting up 2 monitors is as easy as plugging them in. ubuntu will auto detect them and all you have to do is reboot
[06:51] <AcidRain2012> Tex_Nick: you can see your monitor options: System -> Preferences -> Monitors
[06:51] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:   use the package manger tools to determine the package names.
[06:51] <TakeItEZ> reboot for dual-monitor usage? odd idea
[06:52] <xboxlinux> AcidRain2012,  have i been away that loongg  that its becaome that simple? :D
[06:52] <dr_willis> Ive had to restart X for twiniew to work totally correct.. but in 12.10 i think that may not be needed any more
[06:52] <chinoto> TakeItEZ: agreed
[06:52] <dr_willis> I plug in my 2nd monitor and it even enbles twinview automatically in 12.10
[06:52] <AcidRain2012> xboxlinux: yeah. lol. thats all i have to do. i run an asus computer. when i had an nvidia card, i had to do quite some modifications. but it was all still under preferences.
[06:53] <chinoto> I've never had to reboot for dual monitor
[06:53] <Tex_Nick> ok guys ... i'm making this too complicated ... i just need to do it ... couple hours will be there ... dr_willis & AcidRain2012 thanks :-)
[06:53] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: ya im still at 10.10. i think it does if i use the hdmi cable. but dvi and rgb i think i have to logout then login
[06:53] <xboxlinux> AcidRain2012,  O...o   !!?!?!?
[06:53] <AcidRain2012> xboxlinux: eh?
[06:54] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:  it worked for a dvi cable for me. ;)
[06:54] <magn3ts> How many Tux hunting noobs have you guys seen lately?
[06:54] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: guess your right... must be thin king about my laptop. lol
[06:55] <xboxlinux> acid thts was a amazed face
[06:55] <AcidRain2012> lol. in that case, has it been that long for me? lol
[06:56] <xboxlinux> just 2 years ago its was a pain in the @$$ just to get it to work no matter what
[06:56] <mika`> when i mount my external usb hardrive, it uses fuseblk (whatever that is)  i have to mount it as root. i think because i have it in my fstab as this:  #UUID=A24AE9C84AE998F5 /media/seagate ntfs rw,noauto,user,exec	0 0    everything is fine, except:  1. i would like to not have to enter root pwd to mount it, and 2. i would like to create and delete files as a normal user, not as root.
[06:56] <AcidRain2012> mika`: that line is commented out...
[06:57] <Malsasa> Hello, lintian says: missing-dep-on-jarwrapper when checking my debian.deb from my JAR. How can I fix this?
[06:57] <dr_willis> mika`:  # - comment so its ignored.. and noauto means it wont mount at boot time
[06:57] <dr_willis> mika`:  you may want to check the ntfs-3g homepage for examples of fstab lines to do what you want done
[06:57] <dr_willis> mika`:  or run the ntfs-config utility to auto make a line
[06:58] <AcidRain2012> UUID=1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183	/media/Server2 ext3	defaults	0	0
[06:58] <AcidRain2012> UUID=1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183   /media/Server2   ext3   defaults   0   0
[06:59] <mika`> acidflash,  yeah, it's commented out, cause i'm testing.. i am just letting mtab do it's thing right now.
[06:59] <TakeItEZ> next step would be to explain the difference between native linux-fs and fuse-fs like ntfs and how those are handled in fstab ...
[07:00] <mika`> do i need this fuse-fs thingy?
[07:00] <dr_willis> chockri:  keep it in channel please
[07:00] <dr_willis> mika`:  ntfs-3g uses fuse.
[07:00] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[07:00] <mika`> oh, cause it's ntfs.     and vfat doesn't use fuse right?
[07:00] <TakeItEZ> mika`: right
[07:00] <dr_willis> no need for fuse for vfat
[07:00] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: i dont have an issue hooking an ntfs drive to my box and modifying it....
[07:01] <AcidRain2012> unless if ntfs-3g comes stock with ubuntu...
[07:01] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:  ive seen them get mounted ith differnt options.. not sure why
[07:01] <mika`> i thunk i saw something in a mtab line, that had a part about 'create files as 0777' or something like that.
[07:01] <dr_willis> and nrfs-3g is installed by default
[07:01] <AcidRain2012> mika`: you can change permissions on the entire drive as root.
[07:02] <mika`> but if i create a file as it is now, root creates it, i just want my normal usr to create it.
[07:02] <TakeItEZ> mika`: you want to read"man mount" about mount-options like uid/gid/umask
[07:02] <mika`> user_id=0,group_id=0      this means root is playing with the drive right?
[07:02] <Abraham_bacon> help
[07:02] <dr_willis> you dont chown/chmod ntfs or vfat filesystms.. you set them when they are mounted
[07:03] <AcidRain2012> mika`: exit out of nautilus...? how did you get into a root browser without being signed in as root, or without typing root password into terminal?
[07:03] <dr_willis> you mount the ntfs with the right options.. and it will be owned by the user
[07:03] <nmvs> ayuda !!!!!
[07:03] <chinoto> Abraham_bacon: state your problem, not a plea for help
[07:03] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: right u r. my bad. i always format every ntfs drive as ext3 as soon as i get it :)
[07:03] <mika`> dr_willis,  yeah, i think i need to mount with the options i want.   like, mount as user. somehow. not as root.
[07:04] <dr_willis> mika`:  run ntfs-config. or read up on the ntfs-3g wiki page. or the ntf3-3g homepage.. it tells how.
[07:04] <mika`> i would format it, cept other people in this world use windows, so if my whole ext. drive was ext4, then i couldn't use it on their computers.
[07:04] <nmvs> AYUDA NO PUEDO HACER CORRER LINEAGE 2 GRACIA
[07:04] <AcidRain2012> i understood the word hacker
[07:04] <AcidRain2012> !!!!!
[07:05] <dr_willis> #UUID=19C853E9785E19AE/media/willis/VideoShare3000ntfs-3gdefaults,nosuid,nodev,locale=en_US.UTF-800
[07:05] <dr_willis> silly thing.. not pasteing tabs. ;)
[07:05] <mika`> that's ok, i get it.
[07:05] <mika`> i'll try your line.
[07:05] <chinoto> mika`: why not just use fat32? I thought that was the de facto way of sharing a drive/partition between windows and linux.
[07:06] <dr_willis> vfat has a 4gb file size limit
[07:06] <nmvs> alguien me puede ayudar
[07:06] <nmvs> porfaaaaaaaaaaavor
[07:06] <chinoto> good point -_-
[07:06] <TakeItEZ> !es | nmvs
[07:06] <mika`> fat32 limits to 4gig files.
[07:06] <nmvs> uuuuuuuuuuuuuhh gracias
[07:06] <nmvs> (Y)
[07:06] <sSs> thats FAT (aka FAT16)
[07:07] <TakeItEZ> sSs: even vfat(fat32)
[07:07] <sSs> i thought they fixed that
[07:07] <mika`> i believe fat32 also is four gig limit right?
[07:07] <sSs> it used to be i thought it was fixed
[07:07] <xboxlinux> no
[07:07] <xboxlinux> fat 16 does
[07:07] <AcidRain2012> chinoto: ya i rly hate that. i tell everyone if they cant connect to the ftp with the instructions i have provided them then they are screwed. cause im not putting a fat32/ntfs drive into my box. and extx doesnt go to windows
[07:08] <dr_willis> Not sure how you could fix that....
[07:08] <AcidRain2012> but they do make programs for windows that will read a extx drive
[07:08] <TakeItEZ> mika`: it has
[07:08] <TakeItEZ> fat-filesystem always has max filesize = 4GB -1byte
[07:08] <chinoto> fat32 filesize limit is 4GiB, but there is also something called fat32+ which can go up to 256GiB
[07:08] <mika`> dmesg says this for the drive:  [41005.987512] sd 30:0:0:0: [sdd] 488397168 512-byte logical blocks: (250 GB/232 GiB)
[07:08] <mika`> mtab shows it as this:  /dev/sdd1 /media/Seagate fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0
[07:09] <mika`> why are the block sizes not the same?
[07:09] <yeehi> I want to change the firmware on my router to Tomato RAF. Here is my router: http://www.victek.is-a-geek.com/tomatoen.html The Tomato page is here:  http://www.victek.is-a-geek.com/tomatoen.html Which file should I use to flash the router? The people at #tomato didn't help me...
[07:09] <TakeItEZ> chinoto: exFAT you mean?
[07:09] <AcidRain2012> yeehi: wrong channel
[07:09] <mika`> why are you asking in here yeehi ?
[07:10] <mika`> why not ask about your muffler in your car while you are at it?
[07:10] <sSs> okay be nice
[07:10] <yeehi> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/31598-cisco-linksys-x2000-wireless-n-adsl2-modem-router-reviewed
[07:10] <AcidRain2012> mika`: it wasnt the muffler. turns out it was the spark plugs in the wrong pattern
[07:10] <TakeItEZ> !offtopic | yeehi
[07:10] <yeehi> i am using ubuntu mika
[07:11] <chinoto> TakeItEZ: no this seems to be something else
[07:11] <mika`> good diag AcidRain2012
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> yeehi: asking here isn't helpful, asking in offtopic channels is more appropriate, but only the designated channels offer real support
[07:11] <AcidRain2012> thx. rly tried. lol
[07:11] <sSs> your question has absolutly nothing to do with Ubuntu
[07:11] <mika`> what if the router is connected to an ubuntu computer money man?
[07:11] <AcidRain2012> lol
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> mika`: not relevant unless it's ubuntu causing the problem
[07:12] <mika`> i just kiddin.
[07:12] <dr_willis> hes asking what file to use.. how do we know. ;)
[07:12] <AcidRain2012> then my advice is, in firefox. <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:13] <chinoto> TakeItEZ: supposedly compatible with FAT32 (bigger files can get accidentally truncated by software that doesn't support FAT32+), while exFAT is completely incompatible with FAT32, it is only based on FAT
[07:14] <TakeItEZ> chinoto: i never heard of it, but i guess its something beyond any standard and not spreaded that much
[07:14] <mika`> in mtab, my drive shows this in it's line:    user_id=0,group_id=0      this means root would be the one creating folders on the drive right?
[07:14] <AcidRain2012> chinoto: i believe the advice to be given here, is to make all storage devices ext3/4, and then download software for windows that can handle these drive formats
[07:14] <chinoto> TakeItEZ: I only knew about it a few minutes ago, ahh internet :D
[07:15] <mika`> acidflash,  do you know of such software for winders?
[07:15] <chinoto> AcidRain2012: that's what I do for my games and storage on Windows anyway :D (hate defragmenting)
[07:15] <AcidRain2012> mika`: hang on. i actually downloaded 1 not to long ago. let me see if i can find it on google again
[07:16] <chinoto> mika`: this is what I use http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[07:16] <mika`> thanks. this would help me muchly. then i could make all my drives ext4
[07:16] <AcidRain2012> http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows
[07:16] <mika`> err, yours says ext2 not ext4 in the url.
[07:16] <Chojek> Anyone here know how to install skype?
[07:16] <Chojek> or download it
[07:16] <dr_willis> !skype
[07:17] <Chojek> !skype
[07:17] <mika`> Chojek,  do a google search for medibuntu
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> mika`: would journaling even be useful when using it like that?
[07:17] <chinoto> mika`: I know... that part kinda sucks, but it works perfectly for ext2
[07:17] <Chojek> Mika, i'm on the link ubottu sent me "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/skype
[07:18] <Chojek> medibuntu?
[07:18] <mika`> aeon-ltd,  i have no clue. would it? i thought journaling was good if bad things happen. like lose of power or someone ripping the usb out when it's doing stuff.
[07:18] <mika`> chinoto,  that sucks. i'll search for a ext4 one sometime... that i would use...
[07:19] <vampire> wow trine 2 showed up in my linux steam cool i bought it in windows
[07:19] <chinoto> mika`: if you find anything, it's probably fairly new and untested, I looked quite a bit
[07:19] <Chojek> Mika. i'm on medibuntu, now what?
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> vampire: that's the standard
[07:19] <vampire> thats pretty cool though
[07:20] <mika`> chinoto,  how could they not make this work? if they can do ext2, then why not 4?
[07:20] <vampire> im downloading it right now wonder how good itll work on ubuntu
[07:20] <AcidRain2012> what are some cool servers to run in linux?
[07:21] <AcidRain2012> i enjoy setting up servers and running free services
[07:21] <TakeItEZ> what a stupid question
[07:21] <sSs> xampp + opencart
[07:21] <Albert_Zhou> .....
[07:21] <quick-> AcidRain2012:  Apache
[07:21] <sSs> xampp + everyting you would find in softalicious
[07:21] <chinoto> mika`: seeing as it isn't done yet, I would say it isn't that easy to reimplement in a Windows driver
[07:22] <AcidRain2012> quick-: i do apache, mumble, mp3 streaming, email server. sms response server, and irc bot for controlling game data
[07:22] <mika`> Chojek,  read here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[07:22] <AcidRain2012> was kinda looking for something fresh and new that i havent done before
[07:22] <RevelX> hey can i just run ubuntu on vmware along side my windows?
[07:22] <vampire> has anyone tried etherape
[07:22] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  run a counter-strike server!  hah.
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> nginx, host a koolaid fan site, dat kool enuff?
[07:23] <vampire> you can see what people are looking at on your local network
[07:23] <AcidRain2012> mika`: lol. what i rly wanna do is find some type of directplay for linux or something that would allow me to play my favorite game JKDF2
[07:23] <AcidRain2012> mika`: on multiplayer over tcp/ip connection. i can play it on single player
[07:23] <vampire> plex media server nah
[07:23] <mika`> what's jkdf2?
[07:24] <AcidRain2012> jedi knight dark forces 2
[07:24] <AcidRain2012> lol
[07:24] <mika`> Ext2Fsd is a Windows file system driver for the Ext2, Ext3, and Ext4 file systems. It allows Windows to read Linux file systems natively, providing access to the file system via a drive letter that any program can access.
[07:24] <mika`> it says it does ext4
[07:25] <AcidRain2012> mika`: thats the one i had!
[07:25] <AcidRain2012> it does indeed work
[07:25] <mika`> i'm not up on the newerish games... my vid card can't take it. and i'm not gonna keep paying $250 for a new vid card every three years... so i gave up on newerish pc games.
[07:25] <AcidRain2012> mika`: that game came out in 1996
[07:25] <AcidRain2012> lol
[07:25] <mika`> so what's the prob acid man?  it should do just fine fer ext4 right?
[07:26] <chinoto> mika`: if you turn off journaling and extents, then it will probably work great for ext4, but then you're basically using ext2 anyway
[07:26] <AcidRain2012> mika`: it should. have u tried it? :P
[07:26] <mika`> i havne't tried it.
[07:26] <mika`> i do'nt want to unless it won't hurt anything.
[07:26] <mika`> i don't really get what journaling and extents is.
[07:26] <dr_willis> i wouldent trust any windows tools to read/write to ext2/3/4
[07:27] <dr_willis> perhaps READ ONLY.. but not write
[07:27] <mika`> how come it works just fine with samba shares mrs. willis?
[07:27] <mika`> er, doctor.
[07:27] <dr_willis> what does samba have to do with it?
[07:27] <AcidRain2012> dude im about to install Celestia, its a universe simulation tool. just gonna check out whats int he sky hehe
[07:27] <chinoto> dr_willis: I agree on greater than ext2
[07:27] <aeon-ltd> that's like saying why does ftp work
[07:27] <mika`> cause my winders compuyter reads and wirtes to a samba share on a ext4 computer just fine...
[07:28] <dr_willis> Samba is accessing ext2/3/4 as ext2/3/4 windows dosent see  the actual fs
[07:28] <aartist> Hi, testing my
[07:28] <chinoto> yay abstraction layers!
[07:28] <mika`> we can't read your test aartist !
[07:30] <aartist> ok, How I can see ubuntu programs in emacs?
[07:30] <datruth> could someone help me with an ident issue?
[07:30] <vampire> mika what video card do you have
[07:31] <AcidRain2012> Celestia... not very cool. appreciate the work though
[07:31] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, erm, sure?  whatcha need?
[07:32] <mika`> it's a geforce 6800
[07:32] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: i'm using oidentd and I have users setup who are allowed to spoof their ident when placing the .oidentd.conf it's like it doesn't even read it
[07:32] <vampire> oh yeah thats old scores about what 600 passmark
[07:32] <mika`> yeah, upgradeing costs too much...
[07:33] <mika`> i would like to play far cry three.... that'd be sweet. i have it, just haven't installed it cause i know it'll suck.
[07:33] <mika`> the rest of my computer is very fast...
[07:33] <vampire> i got a 6850 radeon hd its pretty good
[07:33] <mika`> ati ? eeew.
[07:33] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, pastebin me your /etc/oidentd.conf
[07:33] <vampire> yeah but it plays games at 1080p
[07:33] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, and what is being placed in ~/.oidentd.conf as well
[07:34] <mika`> nice. i always thought linux support for amd was bad.
[07:34] <vampire> its only like 100 bucks
[07:34] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: one sec
[07:34] <vampire> it is
[07:34] <mika`> oh! i haven't looked at prices lately.
[07:34] <vampire> its best not to use the ati drivers for linux just use the ones that installed when the os was installed
[07:35] <vampire> in ubuntu they always made the windows jump around like low frame rate looking when i moved the windows
[07:36] <AcidRain2012> was webmin ever deemed unsecure?
[07:36] <AcidRain2012> i forgot why i uninstalled it
[07:36] <TakeItEZ> !webmin
[07:36] <vampire> but the ones ubuntu uses look good but nvidias the way to go for linux
[07:36] <AcidRain2012> TakeItEZ: good god... uninstalling agian
[07:37] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: http://pastebin.com/4ideS6Fd
[07:37] <vampire> even the rain effect never works in compiz on ati but works always for nvidia
[07:37] <lbj_90> I get a 404 error when I run sudo apt-get update, can anyone help me in tracing the error? I have /etc/apt/sources.list open but I don't know what I should be editing...I can pastebin the output for anyone interested.
[07:37] <lbj_90> *a 404 error for a few ppas/repositories
[07:38] <dr_willis> ppas would be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:38] <dr_willis> find what one is failing and remove it
[07:38] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, i have seen random bugs before where the default rules will override the other rules, did you happen to set those all to allow and then test?
[07:38] <dr_willis> a 404 error is not fatal  so the ssytem should still work
[07:38] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, (in the default block)
[07:39] <vampire> a 404 errors a server not found error i think
[07:39] <lbj_90> I haven't been able to get past it. The error is for the java ppa which isn't listed in /etc/apt/.... oh lemme check list.d
[07:39] <AcidRain2012> lbj_90: sounds like your resources point to a bad server
[07:39] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: I did and the same effect
[07:39] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, how are you testing?
[07:39] <lbj_90> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/sun-java-community-team/sun-java6/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found. Also another error for i-386 packages
[07:39] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: with an irc client named irssi
[07:40] <TheLordOfTime> lbj_90, you may want to be using a different PPA...
[07:40] <TheLordOfTime> !java > lbj_90
[07:41] <vampire> why do you even want java
[07:41] <dr_willis> !java
[07:41] <lbj_90> That's why I'm confused. I've never added a ppa for it
[07:41] <lbj_90> Or attempted to install java afaik
[07:41] <dr_willis> disable the ppa then
[07:43] <lbj_90> dr_willis I could be extremely dense tonight but I don't see it. apt-get shows where it failed and then shows it's final output so I don't know what URL I'm looking for :S
[07:43] <dr_willis> look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for a file containing that sun-java line
[07:43] <dr_willis> or use the software-sources tool
[07:44] <TakeItEZ> lbj_90: grep -ri sun-java /etc/apt/
[07:44] <dr_willis> software-sources, the other-software tab lists all my  PPA's
[07:44] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, i don't see anything wrong in the config, except for perhaps the directives as they're laid out in your home directory.  For the sake of testing, can you change the /home/user/.oidentd.conf "to" lines to just have the to [network] directive and remove the rest from the condition of reply?
[07:45] <lbj_90> Moment of clarity for me: I didn't realize list.d was a directory. I've been using nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <dr_willis> ive been saying /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  :)
[07:46] <lbj_90> dr_willis is the last slash a directory slash?
[07:46] <dr_willis> its a full path to the files.. correct
[07:46] <dr_willis> or... use the software sources gui tool.....
[07:46] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: could you show me an example?
[07:47] <SerenE_SparK> is there any way we can run a particular program as soon as a new flash drive is added
[07:47] <datruth> you just want me to have to <server> in my .oidentd.conf?
[07:47] <Guest84284> #join irc. linuxfromscratch. org
[07:47] <lbj_90> I've been teaching myself. I learn something new everyday and feel like an idiot when I learn painfully obvious things.
[07:48] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, i'm sorry, i'm a tad tired, hard to explain things... give me a moment
[07:49] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, like so: http://pastebin.com/CchPzA1F
[07:49] <lbj_90> Awesome thanks I can update from cli again!
[07:49] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, just for the sake of testing, of course, so save the old conf file :P
[07:50] <datruth> ok
[07:50] <subcool> sp3ck, thanks for helping me.
[07:50] <TakeItEZ> SerenE_SparK: you could create an udev rule, but to make sure a device is "new"(unknown) you have to track a database of already used devices
[07:50] <sp3ck> subcool, no p.
[07:51] <SerenE_SparK> TakeItEZ:i want to run the program if the device is already been used once
[07:51] <packetfrog> dr_willis Thank you. :)
[07:52] <sp3ck> subcool, endurance support :P
[07:52] <helmut_> hi
[07:52] <packetfrog> fluxbox is on and working! :)
[07:52] <packetfrog> hello helmut
[07:55] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: same effect
[07:55] <datruth> ;/
[07:55] <guest-BPDWTv> hyi
[07:55] <TakeItEZ> SerenE_SparK: http://bit.ly/Do9Wv    as an example. you just would have to add a similar rule for every device you need
[07:55] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, not sure what to tell you, then, unfortunately...
[07:56] <Bauer> How do I setup autostart for skype in Ubuntu 13.04? I cant find the settings in gui, I'd rather not have to do chconfig or so
[07:56] <TheLordOfTime> datruth, because it should work as configured, but isn't.
[07:56] <TheLordOfTime> !ubuntu+1 | Bauer
[07:56] <FAIL35678> Help, my ubuntu 12.04 wont boot after using it yesterday and today it doesn't work for something reason, it is stuck at splash screen with 5 red dots
[07:57] <FAIL35678> Anyone able to help?
[07:57] <datruth> okies thanks for the help
[07:57] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: have you tried upgrading to 10.10? ;)
[07:58] <FAIL35678> you mean 12.10?
[07:58] <FAIL35678> nope, i am on 12.04
[07:58] <FAIL35678> i prefer to use LTS versions
[07:58] <ubuntu_girl_23> hello boys , after i upgraded to 12.04 i cannot login ,login screen splashes again, PLZZ help, tried chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME , reinstall lightdm ,nothing works :(
[07:58] <AcidRain2012> nah. i mean 10.10 lts
[07:58] <Malsasa> Hello, lintian gave me error message when building JAR: no-copyright-file but i have placed copyright file in pkg directory. Any advice?
[07:59] <ubuntu_girl_23> hello any1? , after i upgraded to 12.04 i cannot login ,login screen splashes again, PLZZ help, tried chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME , reinstall lightdm ,nothing works :(
[07:59] <FAIL35678> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1669569/ my boot.log
[08:00] <ubuntu_girl_23> FATAL whats ur problem?
[08:01] <dr_willis> ubuntu_girl_23:  make a new user. see if they can login correctly
[08:01] <FAIL35678> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1669571/ dmesg.0
[08:01] <ubuntu_girl_23> dr_willis thanks already done it did not work
[08:01] <dr_willis> ubuntu_girl_23:  if a newly made user has identical issues.. you got a bigger system issue then just ownership of  your home
[08:01] <cherrot> is anybody using rtl8188eu WLAN driver?
[08:01] <AcidRain2012> seems like FAIL35678and ubuntu_girl_23 are having similar issues with lightdm
[08:01] <FAIL35678> can that information help at all as it gets stuck at ubuntu splash screen with 5 red dots, not responding to any keys
[08:02] <dr_willis> ubuntu_girl_23:  stop the gdm service (or lightdm) login at the console and see if 'startx' works. or gives an error message
[08:02] <AcidRain2012> cherrot: what is your issue?
[08:03] <cherrot> AcidRain2012: It seems that 8188eu has no official driver :(  I can only find this : https://github.com/Red54/linux-shumeipai2/tree/sunxi-3.0/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8188eu   however I don't know if it could work on 64bit ubuntu linux kernel
[08:03] <ubuntu_girl_23> dr_willis thanks for reply it gives me error "Failed to load session "ubuntu"
[08:03] <AcidRain2012> cherrot: im not sure... have you looking into the r8168 driver?
[08:04] <dr_willis> ubuntu_girl_23:  install a differnt window manager/desktop and select it at the lightdm login screen, or try reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop package then try login screen again
[08:04] <AcidRain2012> i have to use that on my laptop. the r8169 driver doesnt work
[08:04] <cherrot> AcidRain2012: in its Makefile I can find this line: CONFIG_PLATFORM_I386_PC = y. but no AMD64 configuration...
[08:04] <packetfrog> anyone use cairo-dock?
[08:05] <cherrot> AcidRain2012: no. There is drivers for rtl8188cu , but it does not work :(
[08:05] <FAIL35678> what i could do
[08:05] <FAIL35678> it does not respond to any keys, arrows, CTRL+ALT+F1 or anything
[08:06] <FAIL35678> is there anything i can do?
[08:07] <SerenE_SparK> How can we check if a new flash drive is inserted using java
[08:08] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: have you tried what dr_willis has said?
[08:08] <FAIL35678> stopping lightdm and login to console?
[08:08] <FAIL35678> you mean that?
[08:09] <AcidRain2012> yeah, you could try that. then startx
[08:09] <FAIL35678> CTRL+ALT+F1?
[08:09] <FAIL35678> is that the keys for that
[08:10] <FAIL35678> if yes, already tried, the system simply wont answer to any commands from keyboard, and the splash screen is stuck also so those dots arent going from red to white, they just keep red all time
[08:11] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: hang on
[08:11] <mika`> everytime i format a drive i'm going to get a new UUID?
[08:11] <rkhshm> error: ‘O_DIRECT’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[08:11] <rkhshm> see that error while include O_DIRECT any ideas?
[08:11] <rkhshm> i've added the heders and all but still it fails.
[08:12] <FAIL35678> what could be wrong, all was fine yesterday, i did shutdown it correct way and now not working
[08:12] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: it sounds like you managed to break x
[08:13] <FAIL35678> how, by shutting down my computer?
[08:13] <FAIL35678> can i repair it any way through live usb?
[08:14] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: you should be able to boot into console similar to that of windows
[08:14] <FAIL35678> how, by GRUB? i cannot open grub by pressing shift in that purple screen
[08:14] <sky770> hi all, need to know abt the current status on ubuntu for mobile dev preview release :|
[08:14] <dr_willis> mika`:  you can change the uuid if you really wanted to.. but uuids should be unique to each filesystem
[08:15] <AcidRain2012> sky770: i think they already have ubuntu on android devices
[08:15] <FAIL35678> so is there way to fix it through live usb
[08:15] <mika`> dr_willis,  i just formatted from a fat32 drive to a ext4 drive.   what if i format it to ext4 again, will it change again?
[08:15] <sky770> AcidRain2012: nope don't want that
[08:16] <AcidRain2012> FAIL35678: at this point im no longer any help. id try google
[08:16] <sky770> want to port to HTC series :D
[08:16] <dr_willis> mika`:  if its empty. why does it matter..
[08:16] <mika`> sky770,  umm, you know there is a ubuntu website that talks about ubuntu on android right?
[08:16] <dr_willis> mika`:  you can change the uuid with the tune2fs command
[08:16] <mika`> dr_ will cause of fstab
[08:16] <FAIL35678> i cannot find any help from google
[08:16] <dr_willis> mika`:  so change the fstab? ;)
[08:16] <sky770> hang on..fellas pulling up some links for you..of what I am asking for :D
[08:16] <mika`> i don't wanna change fstab everytime i format a usb key.
[08:17] <dr_willis> mika`:  normally you dont have USB keys/removeable media in fstab  unless you plan on keeping them plugged in always..
[08:17] <AcidRain2012> mika`: the uuid never changes....
[08:17] <TakeItEZ> mika`: every tme you "format" a drive, the UUID changes. so either don't use UUIDs in fstab or change fstab
[08:17] <dr_willis> mika`:  and you can set up fstab to mount based on Label if you wanted.
[08:17] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:18] <mika`> dr_willis,  i put them in fstab cause i want my one gigabyte drive to mount to /media/1 and my seagate ext. drive to mount to /media/seagate  and so on... that's why.
[08:18] <sky770> I don't want this: "Ubuntu for Android"  (http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android) but* I need to know the ETA (for dev. preview) of this: "Ubuntu for Mobile" (http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone)
[08:18] <dr_willis> using ext4 on removeable media - can have issues when used on other systems also.
[08:18] <sky770> err.. Ubuntu for phones*
[08:18] <dr_willis> mika`:  set a proper LABEL on the filesystem and thats what they will use as their mountpoint
[08:18] <mika`> ooh, maybe i will have to do fstab as label instead of uuid for these flash drives.
[08:18] <dr_willis> make the label  segate for the segate usb.. and so forth
[08:18] <cristian_c> I turned on the suspension, but when I resume not everything is as before
[08:18] <dr_willis> if you make a label.. then you wont even need a fstab entry
[08:18] <dr_willis> it will use its label as its mountpoint name
[08:19] <AcidRain2012> sky770: ... that seems to be the exact same thing. just different wording
[08:19] <aeon-ltd> sky770: it comes when it comes
[08:19] <mika`> easy way to set fstab to ident the drive by label instead of uuid?   or just replace UUID=58439834523223  with the word LABEL=whatever   ?
[08:19]  * sky770 *sighs* no wonder..a 1k+ users on a single IRC :|
[08:19] <dr_willis> mika`:  Set the label. and try it with out a fstab entry at all...
[08:19] <mika`> sky770,  only certain phones can do ubuntu. read the website.
[08:19] <sky770> AcidRain2012: nooo...whoa :O you gotta read the docs man
[08:20] <cristian_c> for example, the chromium browser is no longer opened
[08:20] <mika`> dr_willis,  i have all labels set. in fstab instead of UUID=  i can just change that to LABEL=   right?
[08:20] <dr_willis> I will belive in ubuntu on phones when i see it actually out. ;)
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> sky770: no one here works at canonical, therefore we can't confirm anything you want to know
[08:20] <dr_willis> mika`:  you gave the filesystem a label.. tne when you insert it.. it should mount to /media/username/label
[08:20] <sky770> yes..but what I am looking for is the native ground up ubuntu OS capable of being installed on android's hardware and not wrapped up and being installed inside* android OS* :|
[08:20] <sky770> :p
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> HEY SHUTTLEWORTH! some guy needs help
[08:20] <sky770> ^
[08:21] <mika`> dr_willis,  oooh, ok, i see waht you are saying now.   right on. there is no need for me to play with fstab now that i have used gparted to set proper labels.
[08:21] <cristian_c> If I launch it from terminal, I get: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.1/resource: File or directory not found
[08:21]  * sky770 just wanting to know about the dev. preview ETA
[08:21] <dr_willis> mika`:  you got it
[08:21] <AcidRain2012> sky770: i see what your saying. but why? android and linux are similar in many ways
[08:21] <linux> d
[08:21] <aeon-ltd> sky770: the ground is the linux kernel
[08:21] <sky770> ^ yes effectively yes
[08:21] <cristian_c> that would be the output of the monitor, but I have no other information
[08:21]  * dr_willis is happy they got xbmc out for android now. ;)
[08:21] <sky770> but see its not the same thing
[08:21] <aeon-ltd> sky770: it is the same thing
[08:22] <dONALD> Hi people!
[08:22] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:22] <sky770> dr_willis 'ol nes :p
[08:22] <sky770> news*
[08:22] <aeon-ltd> sky770: the kernels are remerged
[08:22] <dONALD> is there a way to stop gthumb from changing the size of it's window?
[08:22]  * sky770 hides
[08:22] <sky770> later ~ :D
[08:22] <dONALD> I cold destroy that sh*t program I swear
[08:23] <aeon-ltd> dONALD: use a wm/de that overrides it's resize function?
[08:23] <dONALD> wm/de ?
[08:23] <dONALD> what is that?
[08:23] <aeon-ltd> window manager desktop environment
[08:23] <dONALD> and how do I do that?
[08:24] <AcidRain2012> dONALD: what i dont understand is why use gthumb instead of the default f-spot photo manager?
[08:24] <aeon-ltd> dONALD: you don't unless you want to stop using whatever you're using
[08:25] <dr_willis> compiz has a windows resize plugin thing
[08:26] <dONALD> what do you mean default?
[08:26] <dONALD> default in what? there is no such thing in linux as default
[08:26] <AcidRain2012> i mean that it comes preinstalled in ubuntu
[08:26] <AcidRain2012> yes...
[08:26] <dr_willis> the default photo app in ubuntu is f-spot
[08:27] <dONALD> I have xubuntu 12.04, gthumb is the preinstalled one
[08:27] <mika`> dONALD,  in linux, my laptop works by default.
[08:27] <dONALD> okay, never mind
[08:27] <AcidRain2012> like i said. upgrade to 10.10
[08:28] <mika`> reaver should come installed by default.
[08:28] <mika`> hah.
[08:28] <mika`> yaaaay for WPS.
[08:28]  * dr_willis makes a disrto called DefaultLinux
[08:28] <mika`> (but don't tell my neighbours.)
[08:29] <AcidRain2012> DefaultLinux will be available for every device
[08:29] <AcidRain2012> ever..
[08:29] <nydel> upgrade interrupted, current output of "uname -r" indicates 3.5.0-20, need 3.5.0-24/newest kernel ... "sudo apt-get -f install" halted at "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-24-generic" - problems with grub.cfg generation seem to have resolved - fix attempts result usually in a call for "sudo dpkg --configure -a" which halts on the same line as "apt-get install" -- next step? please and thank you.
[08:30] <mika`> dr_willis,  will my usb drive formatted to ntfs mount without fuse by default in DefaultLinux?
[08:30] <AcidRain2012> lol
[08:30] <vicsar> .
[08:30] <dr_willis> mika`:  ntfs-3g uses fuse....
[08:30] <mika`> crap.
[08:30] <AcidRain2012> why not do it by Default?
[08:30] <dr_willis> the default is it defaults...
[08:31] <AcidRain2012> im in
[08:31] <mika`> can we force the world to use ext4 by default?   get rid of ntfs and hfs? please doctor?
[08:31] <mika`> can gparted come installed by default? why is it on the live cd, but after install, it's not there...?
[08:31] <AcidRain2012> i heard computers were going to come with default linux
[08:32] <nydel> (bump) i am desperate. also savvy enough to be an easy ticket. please help.
[08:32] <dr_willis> theres lots of things on the cd not installed by default
[08:32] <mika`> they should come with a free OS by default.   then the usr can have the option to pay for something they don't need!
[08:32] <mika`> can your defaultlinux installation come with everything that comes by default on the live cd?
[08:33] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis:  also, i heard that win8 is making it as difficult as possible to install linux and other OS over windows. what does the DefaultLinux distro do to counterattack this?
[08:34] <dr_willis> dd does wonders.
[08:34] <AcidRain2012> dd?
[08:34] <mika`> he's talking about boobies.
[08:34] <mika`> tsk tsk
[08:34] <TakeItEZ> for non-support chcitchat there is #ubuntu-offtopic, by default
[08:34] <AcidRain2012> damn it willis get your head in the game. we gotta free the world
[08:35] <aeon-ltd> AcidRain2012: nothing, signing for secure boot is possible with linux too
[08:35] <nydel> dr_willis: AcidRain2012: i know you two are rather savvy, may i trouble you for guidance please. i am 90% sure if system goes down it will not come back up.
[08:35] <AcidRain2012> aeon-ltd: so your telling me that linux is going to counter attack a windows closure by the same method?
[08:35] <mika`> i wonder if linux will get more popular in the next few years as every new computer buyer has to deal with winders 8, and hate it. then move to linux.
[08:35] <aeon-ltd> AcidRain2012: http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/11/linux-foundation-secure-boot/
[08:36] <dr_willis> nydel:  you can always boot from an earlier kernel from the grub menu if the current one goofs up
[08:36] <mika`> nydel,  what do you mean "if the system goes down' ?
[08:36] <aeon-ltd> mika`: it already is, android.
[08:36] <dr_willis> I rarely have to mess with apt or kernel issues.
[08:36] <aeon-ltd> *; not ,
[08:36] <nydel> mika`: if for any reason my system is shut down, i am not confident it will boot correctly.
[08:37] <mika`> nydel,  oooh. how'd you hurt the poor guy?
[08:37] <mika`> aeon-ltd,  even leo laporte is now recommending android due to crapple's closed-ness of everything. yaaaay.
[08:38] <AcidRain2012> aeon-ltd: i see what your saying. this is nice
[08:38] <nydel> mika`: dr_willis: i believe an ubuntu upgrade was interrupted by a cold shutdown
[08:38] <mika`> i heard on the news that they had chimps playing with ipads... shows how lame / simple / basic they are. a chimp can use the thing.
[08:38] <mika`> nydel,  did you try the upgrade again/
[08:38] <mika`> ?
[08:38] <mika`> that IS bad. i would re-do that whole OS if that happended to me and had issues afterwards.
[08:39] <nydel> mika`: dr_willis: -- if you would, see my first note, above, please?
[08:39] <mika`> that happened to me once with windows, it couldn't be fixed for me.
[08:39] <aeon-ltd> mika`: when the app stores merge, and a better screening program is made then android can compete properly
[08:40] <dr_willis> no idea of a proper fix for a shutdown during a upgrade.   you mean a release upgrade from 11.x to 12.x? or just a normal apt-get upgrade?
[08:40] <nydel> mika`: ubuntu would not boot after the incident. i dual-booted into windows, which upgraded while i was otherwise occupied, it rebooted automatically into ubuntu.
[08:40] <nydel> dr_willis: a kernel upgrade, i believe.
[08:40] <datruth> TheLordOfTime: could I force the to settings in the main oidentd.conf?
[08:40] <AcidRain2012> wow. ive had bad experience with a relese upgrade. scared to do it
[08:41] <nydel> dr_willis: i am watching "apt-get install" halted at "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-24-generic"
[08:41] <mika`> hmm, so you were in windows, and windows update did some updates, then it auto-rebooted you, then now it booted to ubuntu by default (haha, i got to use that word legitimately)  and now you are worried that the windows is not going to boot ok?
[08:41] <dr_willis> you could try booting to an earlier kernel and purge/reinstalling the latest kernel
[08:42] <mika`> or am i confused nydel ?
[08:43] <mika`> nydel,  that doesn't sound so bad. at boot, just select your older kernel.
[08:43] <nydel> mika`: it always boots ubuntu default. wubi install. perhaps something about the windows update made the ubuntu install usable. i don't know, but i am in, using kernel 3.5.0-20
[08:43] <nydel> unfortunately i am unable to install or update any software
[08:43] <mika`> oooh wubi.  i know nothing aboot wubi.
[08:43] <nydel> as the system seems to want badly to upgrade the kernel
[08:44] <mika`> what's the point of wubi? why not just dual boot like the good ol days?
[08:44] <mika`> sudo system-config set i-am-the-boss --no-kernel-for-you
[08:44] <nydel> mika`: several years ago i installed a wubi on a pure whim, thinking i would play for an hour. i never booted back into windows.
[08:45] <mika`> hahaha. nice job nydel
[08:45] <mika`> time to take the leap to a normal install?
[08:45] <auronandace> nydel: why not make a proper install then?
[08:45] <nydel> after i am finished with this, i will be partitioning my drive and installing ubuntu properly, leaving windows just enough room to breathe through a straw
[08:45] <mika`> nydel,  i like to start with a clean install every year or so.
[08:45] <AcidRain2012> lol
[08:46] <cellofellow> I have a laptop with built in USB webcam (04f2:b2b0 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd) that used to work fine but now it doesn't work at all except I can sort of get ffplay to display from it.
[08:46] <nydel> these are all wonderful points
[08:46] <AcidRain2012> u dont want windows nasty filesystem next to your linux. it may catch something from it
[08:46] <mika`> nydel,  be finished then. just get your data files (your music, whatever) offa there and wipe that mofo.
[08:46] <cellofellow> Used to beautifully work with Skype, and ideas on how to fix it?
[08:46] <vampire> ubuntu wont start after update i keep having to go to advanced start then the old version in the grub any ideas
[08:46] <AcidRain2012> mika`: imagine if you installed ex2fs program for windows and you were dual booting and a virus read your ext system and infected init.d to do annoying shit
[08:47] <AcidRain2012> things i mean
[08:47] <mika`> vampire,   are you a real vampire or you just love twilight too much?
[08:47] <nydel> i am surprised
[08:47] <nibbler__> vampire: just uninstall your latest kernel, so an older one gets default.
[08:47] <vampire> nah i just needed something different to identify me on the net work
[08:47] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  good point. i'm just not gonna install that ext reading program.
[08:47] <nibbler__> but there is a kernel update coming up, that is desireable for everyone :/
[08:47] <AcidRain2012> im happy i started the use of the term default so widely in this channel. win
[08:47] <nydel> not a person in here has any idea what to do when update-initramfs halts, or what causes it?
[08:48] <mika`> nydel,  luckily you don't have to care about your error as you are going to wipe that mofo soon anyway.
[08:48] <vampire> how nibbler
[08:48] <nibbler__> nydel: it runs several scripts, one of those might be broken. /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks or such
[08:48] <AcidRain2012> mika`: lol. id say its unlikely. but the idea is like taking a drink after someone who has aids. never knkow what could happen
[08:48] <nibbler__> vampire: with synaptic or apt-get remove
[08:48] <mika`> nydel,  just boot it with a live cd - get your data off it. and wipe it.
[08:49] <AcidRain2012> mika`: your saying just wipe the rim and its safe. lol. im saying pour a whole new glass with a whole new bottle
[08:49] <nydel> see, i have to fix it first. otherwise i haven't learned anything.
[08:49] <vampire> terminal or what
[08:49] <nydel> i either fix it or go down with the ship
[08:49] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  then again, how is my computer going to get a virus in the first place?  i'm savvy enough for that not to happen.
[08:49]  * cellofellow will ask again tomorrow
[08:49] <AcidRain2012> mika`: porn?
[08:49]  * cellofellow is tired
[08:49] <nydel> thank you nibbler__ there is a lot to look at here
[08:49] <AcidRain2012> lol
[08:49] <vampire> i really dont like twighlight
[08:50] <mika`> nydel,  we are not here to learn things. no learning allowed in this channel.  sorry.  type !rules
[08:50] <vampire> skyrim though
[08:50] <AcidRain2012> vampire: you dont have to lie to be in here. we wont judge u
[08:50] <AcidRain2012> !rules
[08:50] <nydel> well thank you very kindly everyone, i appreciate your help. i'll be hanging around if anyone thinks of anything else.
[08:50] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  pron can't give you a virus, but yeah, a bad site can... who goes to pron sites though? just dl pron vids if you want em from irc...
[08:51] <mika`> nydel,  can't you just select your older kernel when grub shows you what it can boot?
[08:51] <AcidRain2012> lol. i run quite a large ftp that people upload to. you are more than welcome to add to it.
[08:51] <nydel> mika`: actually, clarify for me something -- my bootup menu is two items, Ubuntu & Windows 7
[08:51] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  you have a extra TB in that mofo?
[08:51] <AcidRain2012> mika`: well as far as windows goes, it rly depends on what type of services you use. such as msn messenger, yahoo, all that
[08:51] <nydel> is that perhaps not even grub?
[08:51] <AcidRain2012> mika`: yea :D
[08:51] <AcidRain2012> lol
[08:52] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  i could up ya some stuff....
[08:52] <AcidRain2012> actually thats prolly all i have left. only do like 10gigs if u do
[08:52] <vampire> hey nibbler how do i do this i need a walkthrough
[08:52] <mika`> AcidRain2012,  10 gigs would take a long time... i can only up at about 67KB/s
[08:52] <AcidRain2012> mika`: :/ rly?
[08:52] <AcidRain2012> who is your internet provider?
[08:53] <mika`> in canada it's called shaw (it's cable)
[08:53] <nibbler__> vampire: please nopaste the output of "aptitude search linux-image | grep ^i; uname -r"
[08:53] <AcidRain2012> dude, when the cable guy comes to hook up your internet, you need to tell him to take the trap off of it and you will fix all of his computers for life
[08:53] <mika`> dr_willis,  how do you list (or see if you have) an older kernel on your system that nydel can make grub boot to?
[08:53] <AcidRain2012> i did that, and he said if i brought him some business for people willing to pay a 1 time fee for cable, he would throw me 50$ on 200^
[08:54] <nydel> mika`: "sudo update-grub" lists the newest kernel along with those between my current kernel & the newest
[08:54] <mika`> talk in pm. they are gonna get mad at us in the chan.
[08:54] <nydel> do you suppose that if i reboot now it may fix?
[08:54] <nydel> note:
[08:55] <nydel> i have tried to install all the kernel packages through virtually every channel
[08:55] <nydel> using apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, dpkg, etc
[08:55] <vampire> whats aptitude
[08:55] <AcidRain2012> aptitude is same as apt-get now
[08:55] <vampire> i dont have it hold on ill figure it out
[08:55] <mika`> nydel,  can you paste me in a private message what that output of sudo update-grub    says?
[08:56] <AcidRain2012> can you tell me the output of del y | C:\sys32\
[08:56] <AcidRain2012> ;)
[08:57] <AcidRain2012> ... got quiet....
[08:57] <vampire> i installed aptitude
[08:57] <vampire> hope you dont hack me
[08:58] <auronandace> !aptitude | vampire
[08:58] <AcidRain2012> aptitude is a secure backdoor trojan similar to backorffice
[08:58] <AcidRain2012> nah jk. its good
[08:58] <auronandace> !joke
[08:58] <AcidRain2012> =(
[08:58] <vampire> i know he was joking
[08:59] <sky770> O_o
[08:59] <vampire> so should i type that into terminal still i installed aptitude
[08:59]  * sky770 zzzzZZZZZ
[08:59] <AcidRain2012> vampire: aptitude works just like apt-get
[09:00] <sky770> ^
[09:00] <AcidRain2012> so if you wanna install gimp....  sudo aptitude install gimp
[09:00] <superdo> hi, recommended *working* reminder app for ubuntu?
[09:00] <AcidRain2012> sudo apt-get gimp
[09:00] <nibbler__> vampire: just execute the command in the cli, no sudo required. it shows which kernels are installed, and which one you are running right now
[09:00] <sanav> i recently buy a Dell 15z inspiron ultrabook , please suggest me which linux is better (have good battery backup during run)
[09:01] <AcidRain2012> to say which linux is "better" would be wrong
[09:01] <auronandace> sanav: ##linux might have a less biased answer
[09:01] <sky770> sanav: you have to try them out first..pref in "live mode"
[09:01] <vampire> kernal number 3.5.0-17
[09:02] <vampire> and 3.5.0-23
[09:02] <sky770> in the world of linux sanav..there's nothing as "best" its just "compatible" :|
[09:02] <dr_willis> laptop makers never want to share the secrets of their windows drivers that squeeze out battery life.
[09:02] <sanav> sky770: i tried fedora 18 , but it just gave me 2.5 hour of backup
[09:02] <vampire> both 64 and generic
[09:02] <dr_willis> i doubt if any disrto will give you much better sanav
[09:03] <sky770> mostly its the brightness, chipset power management IMO dr_willis :D
[09:03] <vampire> what do i do next get it
[09:03] <dr_willis> newer kernels might be better...
[09:03] <nibbler__> vampire: the aptitude shows you what kernels oyu ahve, the uname -r shows you which you are running - just remove those "apt-get remove" taht you dont need, or that dont work
[09:03] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: id say we can look at how an android device functions when it gets below 15% battery life, and do the same thing on a linux laptop
[09:03] <dr_willis> i rarely let my android phone get below 30%
[09:03] <sky770> n that's why I asked for dev preview for "ubuntu for phones" :|
[09:03] <AcidRain2012> well true.
[09:04] <nibbler__> there is a lot you can do to fine-tune powerconsumption on laptops.... just google it for your model, and use the laptop-mode package iirc
[09:04] <dr_willis> Im not sure its even been released.
[09:04] <AcidRain2012> lol. sky770 u want me to install ubuntu on my phone real quick? :P
[09:04]  * sky770 is a flashing ROM's for the past 5-6 days now.. ask him abt batt life :p
[09:04] <sky770> nooo..not *inside* android :p
[09:04] <vampire> so i think it would be the newest one so would you know the exact thing i type in terminal
[09:04] <AcidRain2012> lol >_>
[09:05] <AcidRain2012> define "inside" android?
[09:05] <sky770> I want to have a look* (by looks means I want to have a file in my hands) at the dev. preview editio for ubuntu for phons.
[09:05] <sky770> AcidRain2012: wrapper*
[09:05] <sky770> no wrapping em up :p
[09:05] <sky770> as an app :D
[09:05] <AcidRain2012> so you are saying that a ROM is kinda like an app>
[09:05] <AcidRain2012> ?
[09:05] <sky770> nooo
[09:06] <sanav> i tried joli OS but , its totally internet based :(
[09:06] <dr_willis> sanav:  so? ;)
[09:06] <sky770> I meant..I want to install ubuntu's derivate for a phone just a ROM/OS and not install ubuntu os when I have already have android on  a phone (that'be installing ubuntu as an app inside android..much like a VM)
[09:06] <AcidRain2012> cause i have installed DroidX CyanogenMod on a pandigital with no phone service (it wasnt an option), but still had the dialer
[09:06] <vampire> it would be apt-get remove linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic
[09:06] <sky770> derivate == derivative*
[09:07] <aeon-ltd> sky770: there is no public beta or nightlies
[09:07] <sky770> ^ yep..I know. but I just read somewhere that..it'be available from 23st feb :D
[09:07] <sky770> 21st*
[09:07] <sanav> dr_willis: which OS you have on your laptop ?
[09:08] <AcidRain2012> ive installed ubuntu as a rom...
[09:08] <aeon-ltd> sky770: source?
[09:08] <AcidRain2012> still not sure i get what your saying
[09:08] <sky770> so..I thought there must be some hush-hush on the IRC
[09:08] <aeon-ltd> sky770: in a channel made for support?
[09:08] <sky770> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/02/ubuntu-phone-developer-preview-will-arrive-on-february-21st/
[09:08] <AcidRain2012> pfft. no admins man. party. say what u want
[09:08] <sky770> up on ars :D
[09:08] <sky770> maybe.. arse* :p
[09:09] <aeon-ltd> so uh why can't you wait 4 days?
[09:09] <sky770> :|
[09:09] <sky770> that's 24x4 hrs
[09:09] <neo84> Hi, I need help . I want to create my 12.04 laptop as wifi hotspot . For internet I have ZTE Modem. but when I click on USe as hotspot , it remains for some time and resets automatically. Help me fix this
[09:09] <sky770> nom..nom..
[09:09] <vampire> did a sudo hope it restarts
[09:10] <AcidRain2012> sky770: we have to create a time machine similar to the one seen in south park to get the first release of the wii by nintendo. but instead we will be aiming for ubuntu for android by canonical
[09:11]  * sky770 remembers..South-Park :D
[09:11] <sky770> brb..zzZZZ
[09:11] <vampire> hey nibbler im restarting if you all dont hear from me i have failed and cant load ubuntu lol
[09:12] <sanav> what is the average battery backup a linux can gave on window based laptop/netbook/*
[09:12] <AcidRain2012> lol. never see vampire again
[09:13] <nibbler__> good luck Vampire0_
[09:13] <nibbler__> or such.
[09:13] <sky770> dell inspiron n4010  i5 1.8~2.4Ghz, 6gig ddr3, linux mint 10 (yes I know its freakin 'ol :p ) == ~3hrs on just listening to music on banshee.
[09:14] <sky770> + youtube vid playback HD :D
[09:14] <vampire> im back it worked
[09:14] <sky770> so all in all..it fits well on my 2-3 yr ol laptop erm :|
[09:15] <sanav> sky770: is mint good for laptop ?
[09:15] <neo84>  Hi, I need help . I want to create my 12.04 laptop as wifi hotspot . For internet I have ZTE Modem. but when I click on USe as hotspot , it remains for some time and resets automatically. Help me fix this
[09:15] <sky770> oh yes..I more thing it has a ati5650m @1gig, using ati's proprietary binary driver (baawwww.. :p suck proprietary)
[09:16] <sanav> sky770:  is 12.04 good option ?
[09:16] <sanav> sky770: ubuntu 12.04
[09:16] <sky770> sanav: I already told ya bro...you gotta try a a *distribution* before juding it..as its the hardware compatibility which counts and then offcourse other things: battery life? (tweak it!), perf? (tweak some more) :D
[09:17] <sanav> sky770: ok
[09:17] <vampire> nibbler you stil there
[09:17] <nibbler__> i am, but if you don't tag-complete my name, i hardly ever see you speaking to me
[09:17] <sky770> try both of them in Live mode (just download the image, make a live usb-drive out of it/burn a dvd..pop it in..n try it in "Live Mode" i.e. it won't install on your hard drive but just load in RAM
[09:18] <AcidRain2012> is that how it works? ;)
[09:18] <vampire> ok i dont know how but what if i want to do another upgrade should i wait till a new one instead of 23
[09:18] <sanav> sky770: thanks man ...hope i ound my distro ;/
[09:18] <sky770> for newbies..Linux mint is #1 (and yes if yer wondering..its based off Ubuntu :D)
[09:19] <sky770> sanav: np bro../anytime
[09:19] <AcidRain2012> ahhhhh now see there. i disagree
[09:19] <AcidRain2012> what is mint's default desktop environment?
[09:19] <abc_harold> Everyone's idle on #ubuntu-steam so can here help? I'm having trouble just installing Steam (64-bit) on Ubuntu 12.10. Any ideas?
[09:19]  * sky770 pfftt AcidRain2012.. time for an upgrade to "AcidRain *2013* " ? :P u 'ol man
[09:20] <dr_willis> #1? never noticed...
[09:20] <AcidRain2012> sky770: >_> yea was rly counting on the world to end then... lol jk
[09:20]  * sky770 : FYI: I would prefer using Mint with cinnamon
[09:20] <dr_willis> abc_harold:  state what the problem is we can see if we can help
[09:21] <AcidRain2013> sky770: man i just really really enjoy the gnome2 desktop
[09:21] <sky770> dr_willis: u gotta be kidding me? right? (http://distrowatch.com/) see POLL on HPR (hits per page ranking)
[09:21] <AcidRain2013> i tried cinnamon under ubuntu studio. it was straight.
[09:21] <dr_willis> people overlook all the issues gnome2 had..
[09:21] <vampire> hey acid rain why do we need emotion for artificial intelligence
[09:21] <sky770> POLL on right side top side of the page
[09:21] <dr_willis> sky770:  its been mentioned that the disrto watch 'ranking' means absoultly nothing....
[09:21] <sky770> yes..
[09:22] <abc_harold> I can't install Steam (64-bit) on 64-bit Ubuntu 12.10, I get an error about dependencies (steam64: Depends: steam (= <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed)
[09:22] <sky770> but still it does reflect the  confidence of the community
[09:22] <dr_willis> sky770:  it reflects nothing other then clicks on a link...
[09:22] <AcidRain2013> dr_willis: what issues does gnome2 have?
[09:22] <dr_willis> this was covered in detail about 9 mo ago.
[09:22] <sky770> and AFAIK, dr_willis you should rad more often :D
[09:22] <sky770> rad == read*
[09:22] <AcidRain2013> sky770: based off what you are saying is the "best", u are saying windows os is better than linux because more people use it
[09:22] <sky770> ubuntu was done when it introduced amazon :|
[09:23]  * sky770 hates corp stuff
[09:23] <sky770> whoa..M$ is bullshiz
[09:23] <dr_willis> AcidRain2013:  old grandfathered in code.  lack of customization features and so on.. the Gnome-devs  went on about it when   they anounced gnome-shell
[09:23] <barbywannaplay> f
[09:23] <AcidRain2013> sky770: that poll is bullshiz lol
[09:23] <TakeItEZ> !ot
[09:23]  * sky770 can't help here..am srry am a /.
[09:23] <dr_willis> sky770:  i did read.. there was a lot of blog sites about how the disrtowatch site numbers ment nothing.
[09:24] <AcidRain2013> dr_willis: eh.... i cant say i know what you mean. i feel llike i can fully customize my gnome2
[09:24] <dr_willis> and were being  blogged to death because there was nothing better to report.
[09:24]  * sky770 won't discuss that here..
[09:24] <dr_willis> AcidRain2013:  try to set your screensaver options.
[09:24] <aeon-ltd> you keep staying on the format of gnome2 you'll never be able to make real changes to UX, imo win 7 like desktops have reached their limit any further developments would only increase efficiency. at this point 10x better is easier to achieve than 10% better
[09:24] <dr_willis> but gnome2 is dead.. so its not worth debateing
[09:24] <ubuntu_girl_23> hi boys ,12.04 login doesnt work, even when i have installed gdm, it says "Failed to load session"ubuntu" , there were errors during installation of gdm WARNING: node <gettext_domain> not understood below <schema>
[09:24] <AcidRain2013> dr_willis: what about them?
[09:25] <AcidRain2013> dr_willis: i mean im curious. if something is messed up with my gnome2, i wanna know about it
[09:25] <sky770> gnome 2 might be dead..but there is MATE
[09:25] <sky770> its fork*
[09:25] <sky770> later~
[09:25] <dr_willis> AcidRain2013:  not really ontopic for here..  the gnome devs and sites mention thevarious reasons.
[09:25] <ubuntu_girl_23> AcidRain2013 what is the problem u r faving?
[09:26] <AcidRain2013> ubuntu_girl_23: im actually having no problem at all. was going to see if i could assist dr_willis in a possible gnome problem ;p
[09:26] <sky770> ^
[09:26] <AcidRain2013> i tried MATE as well. i believe its the best after gnome2
[09:26] <sky770> :D
[09:26]  * sky770 << he keeps coming back.. :p
[09:26] <sky770> am go for Cinnamon
[09:26] <ubuntu_girl_23> oh AcidRain2013 dr_willis suggested me to install gdm but i am still unable to login  "Failed to load session"ubuntu" , there were errors during installation of gdm WARNING: node <gettext_domain> not understood below <schema>
[09:27] <sky770> gdm?
[09:27] <AcidRain2013> lightdm
[09:27] <sky770> zzzZZ
[09:27] <ubuntu_girl_23> gnome desktop manager i guess sky770 , i replace lightdm
[09:27] <AcidRain2013> ubuntu_girl_23: did you have unity>
[09:27] <AcidRain2013> ?
[09:27] <sky770> yes I know what gdm stands for :p
[09:27] <ubuntu_girl_23> yes AcidRain2013
[09:27] <dr_willis> ubuntu_girl_23:  i suggested trying to install some other desktops.. like jwm, or  lubuntu/lxde to see if those sessions worked..
[09:27] <AcidRain2013> ubuntu_girl_23: try sudo aptitude install gnome-shell
[09:28]  * sky770 pulls his head out..and cries outloud: "is the OP/admin back in here"?
[09:29] <Ronalds_M> I'm sucessfully combining kde, unity and xfce
[09:29] <Ronalds_M> and gnome ofcourse
[09:29] <ubuntu_girl_23> AcidRain2013 dr_willis thanks i will reboot and try . Q: i think this schema error is causing problem, WARNING: node <gettext_domain> not understood below <schema> ,how can i fix it?
[09:29] <Ronalds_M> but I'm on precise, can I get newest gnome?
[09:29] <sky770> ronalds_m have you named your new invention?
[09:29] <AcidRain2013> dr_willis: i believe u disagree with my opinion that because winVista came out with its ugly "flashy cool" desktop that gnome's unity felt it had to do the same thing to hang with the times. but really, they didnt realize that they were following in the footsteps of failure. thus the building upon MATE, cinnamon, and several others really got into development
[09:29] <sky770> :D
[09:30] <Ronalds_M> it's something like gnome 2, but with apps of qt
[09:30] <dr_willis> mate and cinnamon will die out rather quickly i imagine when the  next gnome shwll gets here that has a classic look theme.
[09:30] <AcidRain2013> Ronalds_M: now thats what im talking about
[09:30] <aeon-ltd> AcidRain2013: wut? if anything developments in compiz were to match vista not the unity interface
[09:31] <dr_willis> Ronalds_M:  theres ppa's out for the latest gnome-shell if thats what you want
[09:31] <Ronalds_M> yes
[09:31] <Ronalds_M> that could be nice
[09:31] <AcidRain2013> well im not saying that any others would last longer than the other. im just saying... simplicity. keep it simple stupid. kiss
[09:31] <AcidRain2013> that whole thing
[09:31] <aeon-ltd> AcidRain2013: use arch?
[09:31] <AcidRain2013> never used arch
[09:31] <aeon-ltd> they say the same thing there
[09:31] <AcidRain2013> used just about everything but arch
[09:32] <aeon-ltd> AcidRain2013: absolute simplicity, one program one purpose.
[09:32] <Ronalds_M> Arch is interesting but it takes some time to practice, although I don't like the idea of rolling release
[09:32] <AcidRain2013> lol. math teacher used to say that back in the day
[09:32] <dr_willis> thats often not a good thing.
[09:32] <vampire> use dsl linux that os has everything
[09:32] <dr_willis> Tiny Core Linux. ;)
[09:33] <Ronalds_M> tiny core, is it  burnable on one cd?
[09:33] <aeon-ltd> yes
[09:33] <dr_willis> its 35mb for the HUGE version of it.. ;P
[09:34] <vampire> dsl linux really doesn't have nothing
[09:35] <epzeal> hello, does anyone know "ubuntu phone" will run on a Nokia N900 ?
[09:36] <Gustav_> when i start Ubuntu and chose one of the settings it says: "/casper/vmlinuz: not found or" something like that. i have got ubuntu on a USB drive, i use this USB creator: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/  could somone please help me?  sorry for bad spelling, i am Norwegian :P
[09:36] <bekks> epzeal: NO need to ask twice after already have been answered in #ubuntu-de
[09:36] <dr_willis> Gustav_:  sounds like that tool dident put the iso on the usb correctly. You may want to try some of the other tools at the pendrivelinux web site
[09:36] <dr_willis> Gustav_:  what ubuntu release did you try to put on the USB?
[09:37] <Gustav_> 12.04
[09:37] <Ronalds_M> if arm kernels will be better with some intel arms, then mobile processing with ubuntu would be more greater
[09:37] <dr_willis> desktop or server?
[09:37] <vampire> use unetbootin
[09:37] <Gustav_> i used the program Ubuntu recomended
[09:37] <vampire> gustav use unetbootin
[09:37] <Ronalds_M> but I think N900 is too low
[09:37] <vampire> it puts linux onto usb
[09:37] <Gustav_> ok
[09:38] <vampire> it works ive used it
[09:38] <vampire> it didn't go on right like he said
[09:38] <dr_willis> theres dozens of such tools  - ive had unetbootin fail befor.. and other tools work
[09:38] <Ramesh1979in> Hi Experts, i am having problem in my server and i am new to linux, i need assistance....It`s urgent
[09:38] <dr_willis> be sure your iso file is correct also
[09:38] <dr_willis> !md5
[09:38] <echohiccups> hello
[09:38] <vampire> make sure you set aside space for file movement like 230 mb
[09:39] <vampire> theres an option
[09:39] <echohiccups> yes
[09:39] <Gustav_> i put it to max with the other program .P
[09:39] <Ramesh1979in> mdadm --detail /dev/md0 is showing some degraded state
[09:39] <Gustav_> :P*
[09:39] <echohiccups> 奶奶的
[09:39] <Gustav_> bye, and Thx for the help
[09:40] <Ramesh1979in> anyone is there to help me
[09:40] <vampire> bye
[09:40] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: and what is your question?
[09:41] <Ramesh1979in> Hi Iceroot, i am having problem in some disk or ??
[09:41] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: yes
[09:42] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: it does not mean the disc is broken but one disc is not active in the array at the moment
[09:42] <Ramesh1979in> which to get which disk is faulty??
[09:42] <iceroot> !raid | Ramesh1979in
[09:42] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: mdadm is showing it already [U_] means the second disc is faulty, [_U] means the first disc is faulty
[09:42] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: read the first link from ubottu
[09:43] <Ronalds_M> what's most interesting, you can theme kde apps now with ambiance theme
[09:43] <Ramesh1979in> 0       8        1        0      active sync   /dev/sda1
[09:43] <Ronalds_M> found this on omg ubuntu last night
[09:43] <Ramesh1979in> 1       0        0        1      removed
[09:44] <Ramesh1979in> State : clean, degraded
[09:46] <iceroot> Ramesh1979in: cat /proc/mdstat
[09:53] <vampire> how to install amd drivers
[09:53] <vampire> ubuntu12.10
[09:53] <iceroot> !amd | vampire
[09:53] <vampire> yeah
[09:53] <iceroot> !ati | vampire
[09:54] <vampire> do you know how ubottu
[09:54] <vampire> are you a robot
[09:54] <iceroot> vampire: read the link from ubottu
[09:54] <vampire> ok
[09:55] <vampire> but is he a robot how does he provide the links so fast
[09:56] <akshayr> how to increase the font size in libre ??
[09:56] <iceroot> vampire: yes she is a bot
[09:57] <Malsasa> Hello all, how can I make my DEB package installable in system and appear in menu? Is there any tutorial?
[09:58] <dr_willis> there should be tons of guides on making deb packages.
[09:58] <bekks> Malsasa: Which deb?
[09:58] <dr_willis> as for the menus.. you have it install a proper whatever.desktop file
[09:58] <vampire> If you encounter bugs with these closed-source drivers, developers will not be able or even willing to assist you in resolving your issues. Use at your own risk.
[09:58] <Kentrel> Hey guys. I have Sleep options available, but if I use it and then come back I have to reboot to get it back again
[09:58] <Kentrel> How do I fix this?
[09:58] <Malsasa> bekks: i package my JAR into a DEB.
[09:58] <vampire> if i do it can i go back
[09:59] <iceroot> vampire: yes
[09:59] <vampire> you will help
[09:59] <bekks> Malsasa: And did you incorporate a starter into the menu, etc.?
[09:59] <iceroot> vampire: they are just not maintained from ubuntu itself so we cant support/change the drivers
[09:59] <Malsasa> dr_willis: yes, but i don;t know whickh tutorial for making installable into Ubuntu menu...
[09:59] <Malsasa> bekks: yes
[09:59] <vampire> ok
[09:59] <Malsasa> bekks: any tutorial, Mr. bekks?
[09:59] <dr_willis> Malsasa:  look at the existing whatever.desktop files - use them as a template.
[09:59] <bekks> Malsasa: So you created a postinst script, for doing it?
[09:59] <dr_willis> Malsasa:  for example gedit.desktop
[10:00] <Malsasa> dr_willis: okay, okay! Thank you...
[10:00] <Malsasa> bekks: no, i have not doing that
[10:00] <Malsasa> dr_willis: where should i place the *.desktop file?
[10:00] <dr_willis> for some java apps. ive see where you have to use a bash script that cds to there the jar is at . then runs the java app.. some dont like it when ran from a differnt directory
[10:01] <dr_willis> Malsasa:  'locate gedit.desktop'   same as where that is :) with all the 1000's of .desktop files
[10:01] <Malsasa> dr_willis: yes, my bash works, but my DEB is not install into menu.
[10:01] <Malsasa> dr_willis: wow, thank you for the guide...
[10:01] <dr_willis> you put the .desktp file on the system and  they all get scanned/added to the menus.. thats how it works
[10:02] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. look at existing .deb packages and 'borrow' the  layout. ;P
[10:03] <Malsasa> dr_willis: wow, excellent guide, clever ways... thank you...
[10:04] <vampire> that article was bunk all i had to do was type fglrx in the search bar and install additional drivers
[10:05] <dr_willis> all ive ever needed to do was use the addational-drivers tool. ;)
[10:06] <dr_willis> i did notice today that TF2 on steam ran decently well with the noveau drivers.. which suprised me.
[10:06] <vampire> trine 2 looks weird with the open source drivers
[10:07] <JennyBlueBird> dunno if this is the right place but, are ATI drivers useable for gaming these days, or is it still nVidia if you want to do any gaming ?
[10:07] <JennyBlueBird> My old card literally just died, so I'm pondering what to get
[10:07] <vampire> get nvidia
[10:07] <dr_willis> ive noticed that some of the Humble bundle games i own do are not on steam. ;(
[10:07] <vampire> hold on ill let you know right now
[10:07] <vampire> jenny hold on a sec
[10:08] <vampire> im installing the ati drivers right now for a hd 6850
[10:08] <vampire> driver install failed ill try the bottom one
[10:09] <vampire> are you there jenny
[10:10] <JennyBlueBird> vampire, yea
[10:10] <JennyBlueBird> Normally i would just go get an nVidia, but seeing how my current one seems to have just died on me ...
[10:10] <vampire> well i just tryed to install my drivers for amd using the additional drivers app and it failed
[10:11] <wood> ciao
[10:11] <vampire> i have a 6850 and the regular drivers trine 2 video game looked all messed up and played slow
[10:11] <vampire> so just do nvidia
[10:12] <ubuntu_girl_23> hi boys i 12.04 unable to login , tried everything, i think problem is with gnome-session-common  it is failing to install http://pastebin.ca/2314694 line 848
[10:12] <JennyBlueBird> yea, I thought as much
[10:12] <JennyBlueBird> dunno why ATI can't get their act together
[10:12] <dr_willis> they dont want to..
[10:12] <vampire> really it would be nice if they had it on there web site
[10:12] <dr_willis> of course amd/ati - seem to be having a bit of a hard time of late.
[10:13] <JennyBlueBird> question is then what card to get
[10:13] <vampire> well they had what they called the driver and it was a big file
[10:13] <dr_willis> I stick with older nvidia cards.. ones that havbe been out for like a year.. and are at the good power/price ratio
[10:13] <vampire> text file
[10:13] <bekks> vampire: A driver is never a text file.
[10:14] <vampire> look at the amd linux driver
[10:14] <vampire> it was a big text file
[10:14] <dr_willis> shold be somthing.run
[10:14] <dr_willis> save it to a file.. via right click. ;)
[10:14] <JennyBlueBird> oh wait a sec
[10:15] <JennyBlueBird> my on-board card is an nvidia
[10:15] <JennyBlueBird> probably a bad idea to put an ATI card in then
[10:15] <dr_willis> do you really need  the ati card. ;)
[10:16] <JennyBlueBird> well the on-board nVidia one is not very fast
[10:16] <vampire> it probably wasn't a text file on the amd website but it opened with gedit by default
[10:17] <vampire> what am i supposed to do with that
[10:17] <JennyBlueBird> but I think it's probably a poor idea to go and put an ATI card in a motherboard made for nVidia
[10:17] <dr_willis> you should of had it download.. not open..
[10:17] <vampire> oh wait ill try it
[10:17] <xboxlinux> im making a script so i and get teamviewer for the interent then cli to install it and finally make it a start up menu...  but i idk how. to do this.
[10:18] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  make a .desktop file that runs the script.. look at gedit.desktop for an example
[10:18] <xboxlinux> huh?
[10:18] <dr_willis> make a .desktop file like gedit.desktop that runs your script....
[10:19] <vampire> actually it was a zip file
[10:19] <xboxlinux> ok , doc im still at this project ,
[10:19] <ejv> im just impressed dr_willis even understood you
[10:19] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:19] <dr_willis> and i thought it was such a clear answer
[10:19] <ejv> wonders never cease.
[10:19] <vampire> so its a .run file
[10:20] <vampire> does that mean anything
[10:20] <dr_willis> you run it...
[10:20] <xboxlinux> ejv you try to fuck with thins and then get up for work and then got to deal with family .. and do wihth no sleep.. then you end up like me.
[10:20] <wellsj> If I just installed ubuntu on my mac, how do I get the network drivers without an ethernet connection available?
[10:20] <dr_willis> chmod +x foo.run, close out X. then you have to run it wuth root rights.
[10:20] <vampire> it just opens with gedit by default and crashes gedit
[10:20] <dr_willis> you DONT double click on it
[10:20] <vampire> good job amd
[10:20] <ejv> O_o
[10:20] <dr_willis> you save it.. make it executable.. then RUN it.. hence the .run extension
[10:21] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  is cool and i thank him over and over for his help.
[10:21] <bekks> vampire: BAsically, a file extension means NOTHING. And the driver ships installation instructions which do NOT tell you to just double click on it.
[10:21] <vampire> how do i make it an executable
[10:22] <bekks> vampire: You dont need to make it executable.
[10:22] <bekks> vampire: AND you should read the the install instructions before executing it.
[10:22] <vampire> there are none
[10:22] <bekks> There are.
[10:22] <bekks> Why dont you just use the nvidia driver from the repos?
[10:22] <dr_willis> and theres no guarantees that .run thing will work
[10:22] <dr_willis> I thought he was using ati? ;)
[10:23] <vampire> im using amd
[10:23] <dr_willis> so whats the name of the file you downloaded?
[10:23] <vampire> .run
[10:23] <dr_willis> NAME... not extension
[10:23] <vampire> /home/vampire/Desktop/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[10:23] <bekks> Thats AMD, not nvidia. :)
[10:24] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  how do i script ,so it downloads  the package. what do i use?
[10:24] <vampire> yeah because the addition drivers wont work
[10:24] <bekks> vampire: specify "dont work" please.
[10:24] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  huh?   make a script with lines like 'sudo apt-get install packagename'
[10:24] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  with lines for each package you want to install
[10:24] <vampire> wont install error
[10:24] <xboxlinux> dr_willis, http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx
[10:25] <bekks> vampire: "wont install" - specify it.
[10:25] <bekks> !details | vampire
[10:25] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  i hve no idea whats needed to install teamviewer. dowload it then install the .deb i guess.. with wget and dpkg -i
[10:25] <bekks> vampire: "dont work" is too unspecific to be usefull for helping.
[10:25] <vampire> nevermind
[10:26] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  wget ? so i need to install that before everything?
[10:26] <dr_willis> for a .run file you normally stop X (sudo service lightdm stop) then using the console run the .run file as root..   sudo  sh /path/to/the/whatever.run
[10:27] <dr_willis> xboxlinux:  i dont know the details of what you are doing.. If you want to script a download. you normally use wget or curl
[10:27] <vampire> oh cool
[10:27] <vampire> ill try it
[10:27] <Magellan> vampire: try command #bash /home/vampire/Desktop/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run --install
[10:27] <dr_willis> and im pretty sure this is documented ;)
[10:27] <vampire> all right
[10:27] <vampire>  hold on
[10:28] <JennyBlueBird> nghhh
[10:28] <dr_willis> and most likely you must have X closed out befor you install the drivers..  unless they have done some changes recently
[10:28] <JennyBlueBird> how much video memory is decent for modern games ?
[10:28] <vampire> i think i just had a stroke but hold on
[10:28] <bekks> JennyBlueBird: Depends on the game.
[10:28] <vampire> i can still function
[10:28] <dr_willis> JennyBlueBird:  it seems rare to even find a video card with less then 512mb these days
[10:28] <SolarisBoy> the installation instructions for AMD linux drivers arent on the vendor site (just wondering)
[10:28] <vampire> not even joking
[10:29] <vampire> i m allright
[10:29] <vampire> dont worry
[10:29] <xboxlinux> oh ok, not sure what this is i hear of wget  ..  teamveiw state that i need the .rmp package  first  then deal with zip, then  install.
[10:29] <vampire> i got hella dizzy and the room shifted
[10:29] <Magellan> Vampire: Your dont need to close your x window just input the command i give in the terminal. im installing that driver since version 10. it will open a wizard that will install amd driver just click an go..
[10:29] <cfhowlett> xboxlinux, .rpm is a redhat package, not a .deb package ...
[10:29] <Magellan> Vampire: when finish it will restart so that you can use the newly installed amd driver.
[10:30] <vampire> i will i just need a sec
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> maybe you have vertigo
[10:31] <rjx1> any one tell me power decreasing problem in ubuntu 12.10
[10:31] <vampire> i have something
[10:32] <dr_willis> !teamviewer
[10:32] <elky> vampire, health is more important than computers
[10:32] <captine> hi all.  i tried KDE on ubuntu 12.04 and now want unity.  got back into it, but the login screen looks strange and some things just seem to be kde mixed with unity.  any suggestion
[10:33] <dr_willis> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx  has deb packages
[10:33] <rjx1> am trying to install tar.gz files in ubuntu 12.10 but not install
[10:33] <vampire> it just did this
[10:33] <vampire> vampire@vampire-H61MGC:~$ #bash/home/vampire/Desktop/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run --install
[10:33] <vampire> vampire@vampire-H61MGC:~$
[10:33] <cfhowlett> captine, i take it you installed the kubuntu-desktop ... or just kde???
[10:34] <vampire> nothing
[10:34] <captine> cfhowlett  kubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <JennyBlueBird> ah, here we go
[10:34] <sahil> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: file not found   Is this  a serious error i am geting thing while doing sudo update-grub
[10:34] <JennyBlueBird> the GTX 630 seems to be better than my old card, but consumes about 25% less power
[10:34] <JennyBlueBird> should stop the damn thing overheating
[10:34] <bekks> vampire: How about doing as you have been told then? "sh filename --install" ...?
[10:34] <xboxlinux> cfhowlett,  thanks .. i am on a old  1998 ish moniter ,the print is so small. i miss the other stuff.
[10:34] <vampire> its ok ill play my games on windows the xscreensavers work
[10:35] <cfhowlett> !pure|captine, so you all kinds of goodies along with kubuntu.  no worries.
[10:35] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu
[10:35] <dr_willis> you missed a space btween the bash and the path to the .run  ;)
[10:35] <cfhowlett> captine, see the link above
[10:37] <vampire> bekks knows all remember that
[10:37] <vampire> it works bekk i must have missed what you said sorry
[10:38] <xboxlinux> dr_willis,  lol right (space).rpm
[10:38] <bekks> vampire: As dr_willis already said you just missed a space charecter.
[10:38] <vampire> oh i missed a space
[10:38] <bekks> Yes, you did.
[10:38] <vampire> well it would have worked both ways i guess
[10:38] <bekks> No.
[10:39] <vampire> i learn something new everyday
[10:39] <bekks> That missing space is a breaker. :)
[10:39] <dr_willis> you dont smush commands with their arguments.. ;)
[10:39] <dr_willis> spaces matter,,
[10:39] <dr_willis> bash syntax matters.
[10:39] <dr_willis> Case matters. ;)
[10:41] <vampire> so a amd installer window gui popped up when i ran it but the installer said im missing some tools
[10:42] <bekks> Then you have to install those tools.
[10:42] <vampire> didn't say which ones
[10:42] <vampire> i could have told it that i was missing some tools
[10:42] <bekks> !details|vampire
[10:42] <bekks> vampire: Please dont expect us to guess your error message.
[10:43] <ripthejacker> anyone here use a scanner?
[10:44] <ripthejacker> i use xsane but i cannot autoselect the are to be scanned
[10:45] <ripthejacker> please help
[10:48] <arunkumar413> hi, how to load the correct sound driver and kernel driver  for my laptop sound card
[10:50] <psychoactive> arunkumar413: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[10:50] <psychoactive> ?
[10:50] <psychoactive> :)
[10:51] <vampire> i downloaded the amd drivers from amd website im using ubuntu 12.10 what i downloaded was a .run file named /home/vampire/Desktop/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run when i ran it a window popped up like the installer from windows 7 for amd graphics card i push the continue button it says one or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system install the required tools before installing the fglrx d
[10:51] <vampire> river. optionally, run the installer with --force options to install without the tools forcing install will disable amd hardware acceleration and may make your system unstable. not recommended se usr/sahre/ati/fglrx-install.log for more details
[10:51] <vampire> i go to the log it says Supported adapter detected.
[10:51] <vampire> Check if system has the tools required for installation.
[10:51] <vampire> fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[10:51] <vampire> One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system. Install the required tools before installing the fglrx driver.
[10:51] <vampire> Optionally, run the installer with --force option to install without the tools.
[10:51] <FloodBot1> vampire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:51] <vampire> Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration and may make your system unstable. Not recommended.
[10:51] <ripthejacker> any good scanning software that has autoscrop option
[10:51] <arunkumar413> psychoactive: tried that it's not working
[10:51] <ripthejacker> *autocrop
[10:51] <bekks> vampire: Give us the FULL OUTPUT you get when running that file. Thats all we need. :)
[10:51] <vampire> hold on
[10:52] <vampire> can you here me i was flood botted right now
[10:52] <bekks> And the message you get tells you that you at least are missing the headers for your running kernel.
[10:52] <vampire> Supported adapter detected.
[10:52] <vampire> Check if system has the tools required for installation.
[10:52] <vampire> fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[10:52] <vampire> One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system. Install the required tools before installing the fglrx driver.
[10:52] <vampire> Optionally, run the installer with --force option to install without the tools.
[10:52] <FloodBot1> vampire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <cfhowlett> vampire, yes we see you ... consider using pastebin to avoid triggering the floodboot
[10:52] <vampire> Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration and may make your system unstable. Not recommended.
[10:52] <cfhowlett> !paste|vampire,   dude.  really?
[10:54] <TakeItEZ> vampire: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:54] <bekks> vampire: Last comment from my side: you have been TOLD that there is no guarantuee that the closed source driver will even work on your system. So it is ENTIRELY your decision wether you want to install it or not.
[10:55] <bogor> when a binary file is accedently opened then my ssh command line display goes bad. How do i reset the display back. I used clear command and it doesn't help
[10:55] <quilmes> hi everyone!
[10:55] <bekks> bogor: "clear; reset"
[10:55] <TakeItEZ> bogor: "reset" type blidnly
[10:56] <arunkumar413> psychoactive: the audio device is amd but the kernel module that is driving is an intel http://paste.ubuntu.com/1670089/
[10:56] <quilmes> I am trying to install Ubuntu Customization Kit 2.4.7 to my Ubuntu 12.04.1. But I get this error: dependency is not satisfiable libfribidi-bin. Can somebody help me please. Thank you.
[10:56] <bogor> Thanks bekks , TakeItEZ , so the key is reset command.
[10:56] <Magellan> vampire, try what TakeItEZ told install that package and try again the *.run file
[10:56] <bekks> arunkumar413: Intel does not drive AMD hardware. :) Why do you think it does?
[10:57] <vampire> i just did but i didn't restart afterwards and it does the same thing
[10:57] <vampire> should i restart now
[10:57] <bekks> vampire: No. You should READ what people are telling you.
[10:57] <arunkumar413> bekks: then why does the lspci show snd-hda-intel
[10:57] <vampire> i just tryed what take it ez said im not playing around
[10:58] <xboxlinux> !teamviewer
[10:58] <Magellan> vampire, need t restart if the installation complete and says you need to restart..then procedd to restart
[10:58]  * cfhowlett ... thinks that if I push enough buttons and enter enough commands, that'll fix it!
[10:58] <Magellan> vampire, if not then don't restart
[10:58] <bekks> arunkumar413: We dont know that output...
[10:58] <arunkumar413> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1670089/
[10:59] <quilmes> I am trying to install Ubuntu Customization Kit 2.4.7 to my Ubuntu 12.04.1. But I get this error: dependency is not satisfiable libfribidi-bin. Can somebody help me please. Thank you.
[10:59] <bogor> What is the alernative to "alt+1" in irssi. I tried logging in with ssh client in google chrome. Now when i try to do alt+1, google chrome captures it and the irssi never gets to see it.
[10:59] <captine> cfhowlett, thanks.  it is busy running
[10:59] <TakeItEZ> bogor: esc 1
[10:59] <xboxlinux> how do i talk to the bot.. been to long.  like !teamviewer|xboxlinx
[11:00] <jack43> Hello, I am following this tutorial, but when I try to log in as deployer I get "ssh: connect to host 555.55.555.55 port 22: Connection refused" (http://matthewcopeland.me/blog/2012/09/29/grow-out-your-neckbeard-its-time-to-deploy-how-to-setup-and-deploy-to-a-linode-server/)
[11:00] <jack43> Any ideas?
[11:00] <bogor> TakeItEZ: thanks, you are awesome
[11:00] <cfhowlett> captine, no worries.  for future reference, KDE is the desktop environment minus the apps and ubuntu custom artwork.  also see lxde, xfce
[11:01] <xboxlinux> jack43,  rotuer config to allow the traffic?
[11:01] <bekks> jack43: Thats an invalid IP address. And the host is refusing ssh connections on port 22.
[11:03] <jack43> bekks: That's just an example IP, I input my real IP
[11:03] <bekks> jack43: The target system does not accept ssh connections on port 22.
[11:03] <TakeItEZ> jack43: on server: "sudo lsof -i :22"
[11:04] <jack43> TakeItEZ: I can't get back into the remote server when  I type 'ssh deployer@<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:04] <Vinc3nD> Hello ppl
[11:04] <bekks> jack43: The target system does not accept ssh connections on port 22.
[11:05] <TakeItEZ> jack43: nmap -p22 server
[11:05] <broknbottle> netstat -tulnp | grep :22 will let you know if it's listening
[11:05] <broknbottle> make sure your local firewall has this opened
[11:05] <quilmes> I am trying to install Ubuntu Customization Kit 2.4.7 to my Ubuntu 12.04.1. But I get this error: dependency is not satisfiable libfribidi-bin. Can somebody help me please. Thank you.
[11:05] <broknbottle> if ufw; sudo ufw allow 22/tcp
[11:05] <dr_willis> !find libfribidi
[11:06] <dr_willis> !info libfribidi-bin
[11:06] <jack43> ~|⇒ netstat -tulnp | grep :22 netstat: option requires an argument -- p
[11:06] <Vinc3nD> somebody know how to install source for ubuntu kernel 3.7.x from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/   ??
[11:07] <dr_willis> quilmes:  done a sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade   recently?
[11:07] <quilmes> dr_willis ok but what should I do now?
[11:07] <broknbottle> jack43: what ubuntu version?
[11:07] <quilmes> dr_willis since two months I have not did my updates. It is metter?
[11:07] <broknbottle> that's odd I use it daily when checking boxes and never received that
[11:07] <TakeItEZ> jack43: how do you run netstat on server if you cannot login to run lsof?
[11:07] <dr_willis> quilmes:  you should do a update befor you try to install packages.
[11:08] <quilmes> dr_willis :(
[11:08] <dr_willis> quilmes:  and keeping up graded is a good security idea
[11:08] <quilmes> dr_willis ok thank you!
[11:08] <quilmes> dr_willis the problem will solve it?
[11:08] <jack43> broknbottle: I get this when I run it locally: ~|⇒ netstat -tulnp | grep :22 netstat: option requires an argument -- p
[11:08] <fahad4ever> Hello
[11:08] <fahad4ever> I am trying to install Ubuntu using USB. Made bootable USB with the help of "Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS>.  After that I booted and Selected option to Install Ubuntu in hardrive then Clicked continue. Went into partitioning. As I have unlocated space 20GB I can't see that space in partitioning. All I can see is unusable space but it cannot be edited.  The unusable space cannot be edited I mean it cannot be highlighted for par
[11:08] <dr_willis> quilmes:  no idea..  try it and see.
[11:08] <quilmes> dr_willis I mean update will solve dependency problem?
[11:08] <quilmes> dr_willis ok thank you.
[11:08] <dr_willis> update, upgrade, then try installing it
[11:08] <jack43> broknbottle: I have Mac OSX
[11:09] <STMelon> Question: after updating to 12.04.2 i have alot of program hangs, even more apport error pop ups than before. are these known issues? with the new LTS maint upgrade?
[11:09] <jack43> TakeItEZ: Exactly, how am I supposed to log back into my remote server now?
[11:09] <cfhowlett> fahad4ever, installing on a mac?
[11:09] <TakeItEZ> jack43: netstat is to be run on server, not local...
[11:09] <TakeItEZ> jack43: revert whatever changes you made on the server
[11:10] <fahad4ever> cfhowlett, Actually am installing on my Laptop I want to dual boot it with Windows 8
[11:10] <k1l_> fahad4ever: is there a swap partition on the hdd? is it a raid? is it encrypted? ...
[11:10] <broknbottle> ah that explains, yah run netstat on your server..
[11:10] <broknbottle> your not running the ssh server on your mac..
[11:10] <jack43> TakeItEZ: So how do I get back in, if I keep getting that 'ssh: connect to host <NUMBER> port 22: Connection refused' error?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> fahad4ever, ah.  I suspect efi issues ...
[11:10] <broknbottle> jack43 is this server public?
[11:11] <broknbottle> if so what's the address
[11:11] <bekks> jack43: So what did you do before logging out??
[11:11] <jack43> broknbottle: I'm still trying to deploy..
[11:11] <fahad4ever> broknbottle, Actually I shrink space from windows 8 using Computer managment tool
[11:11] <jack43> bekks: I just typed 'exit'
[11:11] <bekks> jack43: Which changes did you do to te ssh service before?
[11:11] <broknbottle> if it's local just console or start the ssh service..
[11:11] <bekks> broknbottle: It isnt local :)
[11:12] <broknbottle> if it's remote whats the public address
[11:12] <jack43> I followed this exact tutorial: http://matthewcopeland.me/blog/2012/09/29/grow-out-your-neckbeard-its-time-to-deploy-how-to-setup-and-deploy-to-a-linode-server/
[11:12] <TakeItEZ> jack43: you changed some configs without checking if they work... start recovery-console on server and repair
[11:12] <fahad4ever> k1l_ Actually I cannot even swap I am unable to select unusable space
[11:12] <jack43> I changed my port to the one they listed
[11:12] <bekks> Then why dont you use that port for logging in?
[11:12] <broknbottle> do an mmap scan on the ip
[11:12] <broknbottle> nmap -A IP_ADDRESS
[11:12] <k1l_> fahad4ever: i think it could be some uefi issues
[11:12] <xboxlinux> !bot
[11:13] <broknbottle> check the ports
[11:13] <jack43> broknbottle: How though? Every time I try 'ssh deployer@<IP NUMBER> I get back that error..
[11:13] <bekks> jack43: Again: Use the changed port instead of port 22. ssh -p changedport deployer@IP ...
[11:13] <broknbottle> run nmap from your local mac > your servers IP address
[11:13] <TakeItEZ> jack43: ssh -p 3030 server
[11:14] <bekks> broknbottle: HE doesnt need to run nmap, because we already know the port.
[11:14] <broknbottle> ah okay, well i've seen like 3 different ports
[11:14] <k1l_> jack43: you changed the ssh port. now you need to use that ssh port with the ssh command (ssh cant guess you changed it)
[11:14] <bekks> jack43: So you changed the sshd_comfig to which port?
[11:14] <k1l_> fahad4ever: support only here inside this channel please
[11:15] <jack43> bekks: port 3030
[11:15] <broknbottle> ssh -p 3030 deployer@IP
[11:15] <joey_> hey becks my os doesnt show any window bars
[11:16] <jack43> broknbottle: Ok I'm in the remote server now. What should I do?
[11:16] <broknbottle> what are you trying to do?
[11:16] <broknbottle> it's your server
[11:16] <bekks> jack43: Your problem is now solved. You can log in successfully.
[11:17] <jack43> Yea, but I should be able to just 'ssh deployer@<IP ADDRESS> without the extra '-p 3030'
[11:17] <broknbottle> you either need to use that every time you want to login to that remote server or look into ssh pub keys & config
[11:17] <joey_> this is vampire
[11:17] <bekks> jack43: Then configure your LOCAL ssh client to enable that.
[11:17] <jack43> bekks: How does one do that?
[11:17] <TakeItEZ> jack43: edit ~/.ssh/config
[11:17] <joey_> now my os doesn't show any windows unity or nothing
[11:17] <bekks> jack43: I have no clue on how to do that on Mac OSX.
[11:18] <TakeItEZ> jack43: add 2lines: "Host IP"  and "Port 3030"
[11:18] <k1l_> jack43: i  would say that is a mistake in the howto
[11:18] <broknbottle> jack43: http://kb.mediatemple.net/questions/1625/Using+an+SSH+Config+File
[11:18] <k1l_> joey_: which ubuntu? which desktop? what did you do before?
[11:18] <joey_> becks i did what you guys said now my ubuntu os is messed up
[11:18] <bekks> broknbottle: His client is Mac OSX.
[11:18] <joey_> this is vampire
[11:19] <joey_> im on windows 8 now
[11:19] <broknbottle> bekks: it's the same on them all...
[11:19] <bekks> joey_: We told you MULTIPLE times that it is YOUR decision. Dont blame us now. :)
[11:19] <broknbottle> vim ~/.ssh/config
[11:19] <jack43> subl ~/.ssh/config :)
[11:20] <broknbottle> choose your poison
[11:20] <joey_> so basically dont install driver for ubuntu from amd website or youll have no desktop
[11:20] <bekks> joey_: We told you that there is no guarantuee that those drivers will even work.
[11:20] <Daghdha> I only have a mouse on my desktop and not a windows manager. I cancelled a shut down. Can i restart the windows manager again somehow?
[11:20] <fahad4ever>  I am trying to install Ubuntu using USB. Made bootable USB with the help of "Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS>.  After that I booted and Selected option to Install Ubuntu in hardrive then Clicked continue. Went into partitioning. As I have unlocated space 20GB I can't see that space in partitioning. All I can see is unusable space but it cannot be edited.  The unusable space cannot be edited I mean it cannot be highlighted for pa
[11:21] <Rotselleri> fahad4ever: What system is it formatted in?
[11:21] <joey_> wow
[11:21] <Rotselleri> It needs to be ext4
[11:22] <joey_> looks like tommorrow morning im wipin the drive again just windows 8
[11:22] <fahad4ever> Rotselleri, Actually I want to foramt in Ext4 but I can't do it. I shrinked 20GB space for ubuntu from widnows 8 disk managment tool
[11:22] <Rotselleri> Oh
[11:22] <iceroot> what are my options to edit a file in busybox? only sed and echo "foo" >?
[11:23] <fahad4ever> The 20 GB space is unlocated
[11:23] <dr_willis> busybox may have its own mini vi
[11:23] <broknbottle> jack43: example config for you http://sprunge.us/bCjT
[11:23] <joey_> wow
[11:23] <TakeItEZ> iceroot: depends on what s compiled in, vi isn#t?
[11:23] <dr_willis> busybox can emulate a lot of commands.
[11:23] <Rotselleri> Well fahad4ever, you could try formatting it through gparted on a live USB first
[11:23] <Daghdha> nvm, managed to use vboxmanage. can just reboot now :)
[11:23] <dr_willis> depends on how bsybox was compiled
[11:23] <jack43> TakeItEZ: Thank you sir, those two lines worked like magic.
[11:23] <iceroot> TakeItEZ: dr_willis didnt find "vi" in the default busybox from ubuntu
[11:24] <Rotselleri> fahad4ever: even though what you're trying to do *should* work
[11:24] <dr_willis> id just use a live cd.
[11:24] <joey_> OMG
[11:24] <dr_willis> omg ponies?
[11:24] <TakeItEZ> iceroot: does "ln" work? ln -s busybox vi
[11:24] <k1l_> joey_: i see in backlog, that you installed the driver from that website. you were warned that it can cause problems. :/
[11:25] <k1l_> joey_: i recommend to stick to the supported drivers from the repos
[11:25] <joey_> i use etherape i need ubuntu for that
[11:25] <iceroot> TakeItEZ: i will have a look
[11:26] <dr_willis> !info etherape
[11:26] <k1l_> joey_: and that didnt work with the official driver from the repos`?
[11:26] <dr_willis> so you needed 3d drivers for that?
[11:26] <joey_> and i had the xscreensaver setup for cnn rss
[11:27] <joey_> it was cool but im trying to think should i just go windows 8 or dual boot ubuntu
[11:27] <k1l_> joey_: again, why did you install the other driver? i dont see ubuntu to blame here
[11:28] <sahil> hello i need  a simple help, I have a deb file say xyz.deb and it has dependencies : x.deb y.deb and z.deb suppose in a folder all these four deb files are present along with other 50-60 files,In this condition how to install xyz.deb along with its dependencies with a single command
[11:28] <iceroot> sahil: the other 50-60files are *.deb too?
[11:28] <sahil> 50-60 other useles deb files are present so i cant do dpkg -i *.deb
[11:29] <dr_willis> move the useless ones somewhere ehse
[11:29] <sahil> _iceroot yes :(
[11:29] <dr_willis> else
[11:29] <dr_willis> or make a looong command to install the ones you need
[11:29] <joey_> ok next time i wont install the driver but my game just wouldnt work with the open source driver
[11:29] <iceroot> sahil: sudo dpkg -i a.deb b.deb c.deb d.deb
[11:30] <k1l_> !info fglrx
[11:30] <cfhowlett> iceroot, query: put all the .debs in a folder, cd to the folder and dpkg *.deb  won't work???
[11:30] <k1l_> joey_: ^
[11:30] <joey_> well ill dual boot but make only a 100 gb partition this time instead of 250
[11:30] <sahil> okey thanx and is there any cmmand to generate the list of dependencies for xyz.deb ?
[11:30] <DaemonicApathy> I believe "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/debs/*" would work, no?
[11:30] <iceroot> cfhowlett: of course that would work too
[11:30] <k1l_> joey_: there is a amd driver from ubuntu. i still dont see why you just dont use that
[11:30] <cfhowlett> iceroot, thanks.  just curious
[11:32] <sahil> _cfhowlett if you have 100s of debs and say 30-40 debfiles all with libxxx names its hard to copy them (time consuming) on the first place
[11:33] <bekks> sahil: Then create a script for installing them maybe.
[11:33] <dr_willis> or figure out a fancy regular explression
[11:33] <cfhowlett> sahil, thus my query about .deb*  ... the wild card * eliminates the need for individual naming
[11:33] <sahil>  is it possible to generate the dependency list?
[11:33] <dr_willis> just 40 file? shouldent be too hard to copy
[11:34] <bekks> dr_willis: sudo dpkg -i *.deb ? :)
[11:34] <dr_willis> dpkg -i   wont pull in any extra dependencies.. gdebi can
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:34] <dr_willis> he dident want to install them all.. so either 1) move them to a dir and use the *.deb    2) make a script that just installs the ones you want.. or 3) make a regular explression
[11:35] <Rotselleri> So I wanna run win7 and ubuntu, and I have Ubuntu installed. So I want to install win7, make partitions for ubuntu, and install it. But if I do that, Iäll lose all my ubuntu stuff (user settings documents etc). Is there a way to backup my ubuntu stuff for easy reinstall when I've installed win7?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings
[11:35] <dr_willis> Rotselleri:  copy the stuff to a flash drive. or cloud storage.
[11:35] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, Hi
[11:35] <sahil> ok heres my actual problem: i have downloaded libreoffice 4.0 suite i dont want anything other then the writer dpkg -i*.deb wont help .
[11:35] <cfhowlett> Rotselleri, OR you just keep ubuntu, install virtualbox, install win7 inside virtualbox ...
[11:36] <arunkumar413> how to find the bios information
[11:36] <Rotselleri> dr_willis: If I do that, and when Iäve installed ubuntu, I just put all my stuff in /, will that work automagically?
[11:37] <Rotselleri> cfhowlett: Yeah Ive tried that, but it's terribly slow and tedious.
[11:37] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: hmmm i can't connect my usb flash disk into gust os in virtualbox, 12.04 guest and host same
[11:37] <Gustav_> hi, thx for the help earlyer but i have a new problem. When i try to download somthing on ubuntu it says thet i have 0disc space remaining, i have ubuntu on a USB, i youse the deafault option when lauching ubuntu
[11:37] <DaemonicApathy> Rotselleri: Have a read, my friend: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581680
[11:37] <bekks> sahil: Then just install the dependencies manually. You could have been finished by now :)
[11:37] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, there's a virtualbox setting for the usb passthrough ...
[11:37] <arunkumar413> touch pad disable feature not working on my  hp g6 notebook.
[11:38] <dr_willis> Rotselleri:  you put stuff from your home back in your home.....
[11:38] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, what size is your USB
[11:38] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: i have tried it... but i wanna hear your advice...
[11:38] <sahil> one more thing:everytime i used btrfs i got some sparse file error at boot time,reinstalling grub solved my problem...
[11:38] <Gustav_> 3,8MB i think
[11:38] <Rotselleri> dr_willis: yeah sure, but it's a fresh install. It's not obvious that it would recognize everything.
[11:38] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, don't know what to say.  my usb / virtualbox connection works ...
[11:38] <dr_willis> Rotselleri:   what would recognize what? huh?
[11:38] <Rotselleri> DaemonicApathy: This looks promising, thanks!
[11:38] <sahil> ya sure but i just want to knw if that thing is possible using cli
[11:39] <DaemonicApathy> Rotselleri: Any time.
[11:39] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: hmmm but mine not works...
[11:39] <Gustav_> somone know how to fix it_
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, and have already installed stuff or updated?  then you might BE out of space.  try this df -h
[11:39] <dr_willis> Gustav_:  how did you put ubuntu on usb?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, peek at the settings for that VM ...
[11:40] <Gustav_> i have put ubuntu on a USB using a program and i chose 2mb in the setting, when i lauch i asks me what i would like to start with, i choose defaule, not the install option
[11:41] <dr_willis> Gustav_:  you made a 2mb or 2GB persistant file?
[11:41] <sahil> well how gallium3d performs in ubuntu?last time i tried it wasnt good enough...i am on precise ,my chipset is hd4200
[11:41] <Gustav_> dk, i chose 2
[11:41] <Gustav_> did not say anything else
[11:41] <dr_willis> we dont know either... 2mb is useless... 2gb can still get filled up quickly
[11:42] <arunkumar413> battery icon not showing in the topbar in ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-shell
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, clear your cache.  open a terminal and type sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[11:43] <Gustav_> I did not use the recomended program because it did not work, somone sent me an alternative USB creator
[11:43] <Gustav_> how do i clean my cache
[11:43] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, ... someone ... sent ...
[11:44] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, read.  the command is there
[11:44] <magnus__> Hi!
[11:44] <cfhowlett> magnus__, greetings
[11:44] <rita_> hi
[11:45] <magnus__> someone here that has good knowledge about Ubuntu and its upcoming mobile devices?
[11:45] <iceroot> magnus__: #ubuntu-phone
[11:45] <ikonia> magnus__: try the #ubuntu-phone channel
[11:45] <magnus__> ok
[11:45] <dr_willis> magnus__:  theres not a lot of official knowledge to know at this time
[11:45] <sahil> _cfhowlett  how is gallium3d's performance in ubuntu precise?
[11:45] <Gustav_> this happends        Reading package lists... Error! E: Unable to synchronize mmap - msync (28: No space left on device) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:45] <rita_> how can i make a mapping to a share network drive is permanent . So when i reboot the mapping is still there
[11:45] <cfhowlett> sahil, absolutely no idea ...
[11:46] <iceroot> !fstab | rita_
[11:46] <cfhowlett> Gustav_, yep, you've peaked out that usb ...
[11:46] <sahil> okey is there a dedicate chanall for graphics woes?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> #graphics|sahil,
[11:48] <sahil> thanx a lot :)  Linux : The POWER of WE !! Cheers!!
[11:48] <BluesKaj> sahil, depends , tell us your issue
[11:49] <arunkumar413> there is small ridge on the touch  pad to disable the touchpad but when i tap on the ridge the touch pad is not getting disabled.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> arunkumar413, that's a hardware switch that must be enabled in your OS .. not always by default ...
[11:49] <rita_> thanks foor your help
[11:50] <Gustav_> srry for being a noob at linux, but flashplayer wil not download, it says    This link needs to be opend with an aplication. send to    and then i have to choose an aplication
[11:50] <dr_willis> dont download flash from the adobe site...
[11:50] <dr_willis> use the package manager to install flash
[11:50] <_nedR> hello, i have set aside the last unallocated space of  90 GB in hdd for installing ubuntu.. I would like to reserve 1. 60GB for /  2. 6GB for swap 3. 22 GB for /home
[11:50] <arunkumar413> cfhowlett: how to enable the hardware switch
[11:50] <_nedR> how do i go about doing this
[11:51] <cfhowlett> arunkumar413, on a laptop?
[11:51] <DaemonicApathy> _nedR: partition it that way?