[00:00] <notlistening> Lockzi, what is the bug?
[00:00] <nessonic> notlistening: yes, about 360 free, I only want to make ~100 gb NTFS partition for my internal windows drive
[00:00] <projectzro> afk
[00:00] <projectzro> back
[00:01] <notlistening> nessonic, yeah that should be fine and not wipe anything, if you want a good way to do it I recoomend gparted it is pretty fool proof ;)
[00:01] <Lockzi> notlistening:  There is no bug. I need PHP5 to get an updated version of the accompanying PCRE library (which is from 2008)
[00:01] <propman> fremen_ might try   sudo lshw -c video
[00:01] <nessonic> notlistening: alright, thank you, it saves me about 4 hours of backing up my stuff to this external as a "just in case"
[00:02] <fremen_> propman: thank you propman :) i also have problem with system testing program, it does not shutdown and it does not shown at process table at system monitor, what should i do ?
[00:02] <notlistening> nessonic, well i always would say backup a drive before playing with partitions, how critical is the data?
[00:03] <projectzro> mneptok: thanks for your help but i have to go. i guess ill have to suck it up and use my windows machine
[00:03] <notlistening> Lockzi, there is also a way to ask questions on Launchpad to all the php gurus out there
[00:03] <nessonic> it's just movies and music, stuff I've had to re-upload many times over. A hassle, but not serious
[00:04] <propman> fremen_  will have to let someone else answer that  question :)
[00:05] <notlistening> nessonic, well i am sure that you will be fine, just don't like loosing unrecoverable stuff, gparted is a good thing to have a copy of anyways, you have to burn it to CD
[00:05] <nessonic> notlistening: okay, thank you
[00:05] <notlistening> fremen_, try sudo ps -A and look for it
[00:06] <notlistening> or better sudo pa -A | grep "process name"
[00:07] <notlistening> *ps
[00:10] <CT1> fremen_: lspci | grep vga might give some indication
[00:10] <Repy> hello guys... what's the difference between the java vm in sun-java-bin and the one in openjdk? I can run java programs from both but i dunno the difference...
[00:10] <Repy> in both*
[00:11] <fremen_> notlistening: i see many processes but none of them has name like system testing, is this make it a zombie process ?
[00:12] <fremen_> CT1: sorry ct1, it didnt return anything
[00:14] <Pici> fremen_: I think the process name is 'checkbox' or something similar.
[00:16] <fremen_> Pici: i killed the checkbox process but it wasnt that process
[00:17] <Pici> fremen_: well, if you can see the window that is frozen, you could use xkill
[00:18] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I got my apache throwing a segmentation fault (11) for a child since some time and after a certain amount of these faults, it stops acceptint any incoming connections and has to be restarted manually. Any idea what could cause that?
[00:18] <fremen_> Pici: it worked thanks :)
[00:19] <aguitel-loco> hi
[00:23] <Khisanth> heh so it handles requests until all the children die from segfaults? :)
[00:23] <makara> hi. firefox says adobe flash isn't installed, but it is. what can I do?
[00:24] <KNUBBIG> Khisanth: i dunno, the logs are so meaningless :(
[00:24] <Khisanth> hmm not entirely
[00:24] <urlin2u> makara, how did you install flash?
[00:25] <Khisanth> there is an option to start apache without spawing extra children, you can use that and reply the requests until it segfaults
[00:25] <zykotick9_> fremen_, FYI you need to use "lspci | grep -i vga" or "lspci | grep VGA"
[00:25] <KNUBBIG> Khisanth: what would that help me?
[00:25] <Khisanth> you can use gdb to find the approximate location
[00:26] <makara> urlin2u - i really can't remember. but sometimes I'll disable it from firefox to save bandwidth
[00:26] <Khisanth> but this doesn't seem like the right place for that sort of issue
[00:26] <urlin2u> makara, how are you disabling it?
[00:27] <crash1hd> what size does the usb stick have to be to create an ubuntu live usb?
[00:27] <KNUBBIG> Khisanth: okay, where should I ask? I'm bad with gdb, only accustomed to the Java debugger ;)
[00:27] <makara> urlin2u - from the add-on menu in firefox
[00:27] <urlin2u> crash1hd, i gig
[00:27] <xangua> crash1hd: igb at least
[00:27] <crash1hd> i gig? or do you mean 1gb?
[00:28] <urlin2u> crash1hd, same thing.
[00:28] <crash1hd> well sorta i is a letter not a number lol :)
[00:28] <crash1hd> but thanks
[00:28] <urlin2u> crash1hd, duh
[00:29] <crash1hd> :)
[00:29] <urlin2u> crash1hd, :D
[00:29] <lilith> is anyone running ubuntu on a efi PC?
[00:29] <crash1hd> I guess when I think about it (its kinda a dumb question as it has to fit on a cd lol)
[00:29] <fremen_> zykotick9_: i see the vga compatiable controller with this and ati graphic card, but can i able to see if there are problems with it or not ?
[00:29] <zykotick9_> fremen_, sorry i can't help with ATI, good luck.
[00:29] <Guest92958> Hi how do I burn an iso to a usb in ubuntu. I do not have any blank cds with me at the moment.
[00:30] <fremen_> zykotick9_: ok thanks very much anyway
[00:30] <Guest92958> I plan on mounting Backtrack 5 r1 to it.
[00:30] <Khisanth> KNUBBIG: well there is #httpd
[00:31] <KNUBBIG> Khisanth: oh cool, thanks. I'll try there
[00:31] <urlin2u> Guest92958, use the startup disc creator or unetbootin
[00:32] <Guest92958> Is that all ready installed or do I have to dl it?
[00:32] <urlin2u> Guest92958, just so you know we don't support backtrack here, so after this your on your own, and you will have to use unetbootin.
[00:32] <urlin2u> you're
[00:32] <Stanley00> fremen_: you can use sudo lspci -v | grep vga -C 12 to reduce the output, and try look for kernel module,
[00:33] <Stanley00> fremen_: it there's such kernel module, then your card is installed
[00:33] <zykotick9_> Stanley00, but "grep vga" is case sensitive ans will probably fail
[00:33] <zykotick9_> s/ans/and/
[00:33] <Stanley00> zykotick9_: yep, thanks for that
[00:34] <fremen_> Stanley00: it returned nothing
[00:34] <Stanley00> fremen_: sudo lspci -v | grep -i "vga" -C 12
[00:34] <xsrv> is there a way to see wifi connection status via terminal?
[00:34] <CT1> zykotick9_: grep -i iGnOreCasE
[00:34] <urlin2u> xsrv, ifconfig
[00:35] <Stanley00> xsrv: ifconfig and iwconfig will  do
[00:35] <Guest92958> I know that. Also another question is there a better way to mange dual OS's. Because the default on is not so good for beginners.
[00:35] <xsrv> i need to rum these without sudo
[00:35] <xsrv> run*
[00:35] <Crovster> hi guys, is it possible to have two audio outputs? now i have one for the headphones, the mic input, which i use for mic, and line in, which i want to turn into output. any ideas?
[00:35] <Stanley00> xsrv: thay dont need sudo to just print the status
[00:36] <urlin2u> Guest92958, if you mean manage=boot have the second OS be  grub2 type and have grub in that OS be the control.
[00:36] <P05TMAN> Hello. I'm tring to install 11.04 along side windows 7, but bootloader failed to install. It seems that I'm able to choose any option either.
[00:36] <Khisanth> you want the line *in* into an output? O_o
[00:37] <Crovster> yes
[00:37] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, you jnstall with a thumb?
[00:37] <CT1> Crovster: If you have 2 soundcards or more you can send (per application) the output to whatever output pulse can see
[00:37] <urlin2u> install
[00:37] <fremen_> Stanley00: it worked thanks :), it returned vga cotroller and SMbus and a part of info before that section, is SMbus related to the graphics card ?
[00:37] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, no it was a disk from canonical
[00:37] <Stanley00> fremen_: nope, it just reduce the long out put, the number 12 is just an example ;)
[00:37] <Crovster> CT1: that wasnt my idea, i have one soundcard, with one free jack, which i want to turn into a second output jack (with the same sound like the original output jack)
[00:38] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, was it from windows=wubi?
[00:38] <Guest92958> Ok thanks. I wish I could help more out here I am pretty smart when It come down to general knowledge of most Operating Systems and there weakness.\
[00:38] <Khisanth> a splitter would be much simpler :)
[00:38] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, no, it was to be for dual boot.
[00:38] <urlin2u> Khisanth, please tab the nics.
[00:39] <xsrv> Stanley00: a complete listing of available wifi networks would be better
[00:39] <fremen_> Stanley00: so it gives me 12 line to up from the end of VGA controller ?
[00:39] <Stanley00> xsrv: then try ifconfig -a ;)
[00:40] <Crovster> well yea, but my PC case is kinda weird and if i get a splitter, i wouldnt be able to put the microphone cable to his own jack
[00:40] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, cool lets have you run a script, pastebin the RESULTS.txt generated to a pastebin. Boot the ubuntu cd and run this script.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[00:40] <Stanley00> fremen_: it print 12 lines before, and 12 lines after the matching line,
[00:40] <xsrv> Stanley00: are you sure that will list available WIFI networks?
[00:40] <xsrv> Stanley00: anyway, thanks, I'll try
[00:40] <Guest92958> I have a dual OS's Ubuntu  and Backtrack. I was wondering if there was a better way of choosing the os I want to start up.
[00:40] <Stanley00> fremen_: I think use -A 12 is better, since it just print 12 lines after the matching line :D
[00:41] <Crovster> Khisanth: any software solutions for that?
[00:41] <Stanley00> fremen_: I just realize that...
[00:41] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, it is in the middle of install, I fear that if I cancel I won't be able to boot my pc
[00:41] <Guest92958> Sorry for the repeat  but I feel I asked the question wrongly.
[00:41] <urlin2u> Guest92958, what do you want to start up, BT 5 is which grub, legacy or grub2
[00:41] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, should I choose "cancel install"?
[00:42] <xsrv> Stanley00: just tried ifconfig -a, it doesn't list wifi networks
[00:42] <fremen_> Stanley00: thanks very much :) so if i see it as a VGA controller and if system doesnt report anything, then its ok and working without any problems ?
[00:42] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, I think your probably okay it should put the grub boot in the mbr.
[00:42] <zombieSLAYER> can someone point me to a room that can help coding a webpage?
[00:42] <xsrv> only the network I'm connected to
[00:42] <xangua> Guest92958: tries startup-manager ¿
[00:42] <somsip> zombieSLAYER: what language?
[00:42] <Stanley00> xsrv: sorry, I misunderstood.
[00:42] <xsrv> zombieSLAYER: language?
[00:43] <zombieSLAYER> eng
[00:43] <notlistening> Crovster, are you trying to do lineout to mic?
[00:43] <Stanley00> fremen_: did you see kernel modules?
[00:43] <xangua> !info startupmanager | Guest92958
[00:43] <somsip> zombieSLAYER: what programming language?
[00:43] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, the where to put grub is in the something else choice=custom set up.
[00:43] <zombieSLAYER> oh html5/js/css
[00:44] <somsip> zombieSLAYER:  then #html, #javascript, #css depending on what you're having trouble with
[00:44] <Crovster> notlistening: no, i have mic, working, i have lineout, working, i want linein to became second lineout with the same output, so i can connect my reciever and my headphones at the same time to the pc
[00:44] <urlin2u> xangua, startup manager is a bad idea it does not change with kernel updates.
[00:44] <Khisanth> Crovster: doesn't seem likely very likely to me but there are many possibilities with different soundcard hardware and driver combinations
[00:44] <Stanley00> xsrv: you can try iwlist  wlan0 scanning, I hopt
[00:44] <Stanley00> xsrv: hope*
[00:45] <xsrv> Stanley00: will try
[00:45] <notlistening> Crovster, do you have a case with extra outputs like three at the bad and two at the front?
[00:45] <urlin2u> Guest92958, don't use startup manager there are other up to date boot apps.
[00:45] <fremen_> Stanley00: yes i can see it : "Kernel Modules: fglrx, radeon"
[00:45] <Crovster> notlistening: thats not an option, the audio cable of the case were cutted
[00:45] <notlistening> Khisanth, I agree some 5.1, 7.1 cards are quite configurable
[00:46] <xsrv> Stanley00: works without sudo, but then it doesn't list all the available wifi networks, only the one I'm connected to
[00:46] <Khisanth> notlistening: my previous on board could do it too, at least on windows :)
[00:46] <yl> why
[00:46] <CT1> Crovster:  what sound card do you have? (lspci | grep -i multimedia)
[00:46] <notlistening> Crovster, well you might look at replacing the cables as that will be so much easier
[00:46] <Stanley00> fremen_: okie.
[00:47] <Stanley00> xsrv: hmm...
[00:47] <Crovster> CT1: Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[00:47] <notlistening> Khisanth, windows is much friendlier for audio
[00:47] <Khisanth> notlistening: well I never looked into whether I could do it on linux, no reason to
[00:47] <Crovster> the cables are unreplaceble
[00:47] <fremen_> Stanley00: so it means that is it working fully operational ?
[00:47] <Guest92958> urline2u What are they becuse I am clueless what to use or even look for?
[00:47] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, ok, but my pc is still in the middle of install with the warning that bootloader failed to install. It asks me to choose a different device (none of the options work), continue without bootloader (if I select this, nothing happens), and cancel installation warning that my computer may not be able to boot.
[00:48] <Stanley00> fremen_: hopefully
[00:48] <xsrv> Stanley00: actually, I have to write a program that gets info about networks
[00:48] <Khisanth> notlistening: although being able to plug  things in without having to care which port you are sticking things in is very convenient :)
[00:48] <notlistening> Crovster, have you had a poke in pulseaudio config?
[00:48] <Khisanth> Crovster: your audio cables are soldered to the case?
[00:48] <Stanley00> xsrv: hmm, I think there will be a tool somewhere in iw* command,
[00:49] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, so you are not actually installed it has failed correct?   open gparted take a screenshot and imagebin it.
[00:49] <Stanley00> xsrv: I trying to find out now.
[00:49] <fremen_> Stanley00: ok thanks very much again
[00:49] <Stanley00> fremen_: you are welcome :)
[00:49] <notlistening> Khisanth, just imagining you lying on the floor plugging 3.5 mm sockets in and only doing it once :D
[00:49] <xsrv> Stanley00: alright
[00:49] <loverbear> So, I have about 9 hours of battery in windows... In ubuntu (live media, I know) I'm seeing not even 5. What's up? I should be able to squeeze at least 9 out of linux. :S
[00:49] <Crovster> notlistening: keep talking? Khisanth yep, and i cant replace them, cause im tech geek
[00:50] <xsrv> Stanley00: I'm pretty sure my program could run as root, but then it would be dangerous
[00:50] <notlistening> loverbear, are you using cpu throttling and display dimming?
[00:50] <loverbear> notlistening: I haven't checked throttling, will look now thanks
[00:51] <urlin2u> Guest92958, what is it you actually want I doubt you need a boot manager.
[00:51] <loverbear> notlistening: I'm more worried if ubuntu has too many "features" running
[00:52] <n2i> hi all! i have using pekwm as my WM, and using "login screen" to set autologin with default session is pekwm.
[00:52] <Guest92958> I want to make the screen to look more user friendly because girl friend gets mad at me because she can tell what OS she is booting.
[00:52] <urlin2u> loverbear, look in startup applications to start with and turn off what you don't need, if you do need it it will run.
[00:52] <loverbear> n2i: Awesome! :)
[00:53] <notlistening> loverbear, which version have you installed?
[00:53] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, when I select gparted, I get an error, failed to run /usr/sbin/gparted as user root.
[00:53] <Stanley00> xsrv: hmm, cant find out...
[00:53] <Khisanth> Guest92958: does she need to use both?
[00:53] <n2i> but if i do that or even start pekwm by "startx"
[00:53] <loverbear> notlistening: Scaling is on and the display is as dim as I can get it. Showing 4:45 left (90%)... Using 11.04 live flash
[00:54] <n2i> pekwm will not run smoothly
[00:54] <loverbear> notlistening: CPU's are being scaled down to 800mhz from their usual 2.5ghz
[00:54] <CT1> Crovster: Sorry, I can't find any answer.  AND, to add insult to injury, I just dumped a bunch of old hardware, including 4 "old" sound cards
[00:54] <Guest92958> Only Ubuntu. But I need to use both.
[00:54] <xsrv> Stanley00: hmm… well, thanks anyway
[00:54] <notlistening> loverbear, have you actually done a test to see how reliable that battery data is?
[00:55] <Crovster> CT1: thanks anyway
[00:55] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, gparted wont run while the installer is running, a of now grub sounds like it has not been put in the mbr, in order to triage your setup, you need to stop, and reboot the cd, and get a screen shot or run the script, we need more info to see whats up.
[00:55] <urlin2u> as
[00:55] <Stanley00> xsrv: I cant help you, sorry. :(
[00:55] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, and yes, sorry, I'm not installed and it had failed
[00:55] <n2i> on other hand, if i select pekwm from display manager and then login so every thing is ok
[00:55] <Crovster> CT1: any ideas how i can make two soundcards to play the same signal?
[00:56] <loverbear> notlistening: I used this laptop every day for over a month with 6+ hours off power using mathematica/wifi/oneNote... Most days I'd still have at least 1:35 estimated leftover.
[00:56] <n2i> how to fix this problem?
[00:56] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, so I should select "cancel the installation"?
[00:56] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, even if you have no boot to windows if everything is in order we can at the least put a bootloader in the mbr that will work if needed to boot windows.
[00:56] <notlistening> loverbear, i am getting at the point have you run it till the battery dies?
[00:57] <loverbear> n2i: When using startx you're not starting up most of the usual ubuntu services. From GDM (your login screen) ubuntu handles a lot of the grunt-work.
[00:57] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, your there you have been getting errors how would I know every bit.
[00:57] <alpicola> xsrv: maybe check out iwlist?
[00:57] <loverbear> notlistening: In ubuntu? I haven't.
[00:57] <loverbear> notlistening: In windows I got bored after the 8th hour and went to bed.
[00:58] <n2i> lovebear and what about when i set autologin?
[00:58] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, ok...i thought so but the message was so ominous...I didn't mean to imply that you should know, I apologize & appreciate your assistance
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[00:58] <loverbear> n2i: I'm not certain on the specifics surrounding GDM, but if you select pekwm as your session on login it should startup what's neccessary.
[00:59] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, in other words it seems you have the cart before the horse we are in cleanup mode to get that straight, we need info to to that, no biggie, but some decisions you have to make. :D
[00:59] <loverbear> n2i: Can you describe what happens when you start from startx? Do you get screen tearing? High cpu usage?
[00:59] <urlin2u> loverbear, starts x
[01:00] <urlin2u> the desktop
[01:00] <loverbear> urlin2u: No kidding. He said he was having issues with pekwm though when using it and not gdm's session chooser.
[01:00] <CT1> Crovster: That's also beyond my scope. Sorry :(
[01:00] <n2i> i have just using pekwm beautifully on Arch which is started by startx, but i dont remember how to do it.
[01:00] <urlin2u> loverbear, sorry I was thimking you were asking a question, my bad
[01:01] <urlin2u> thinking
[01:01] <Crovster> alright, good night then :)
[01:01] <notlistening> loverbear, try installing powertop
[01:01] <loverbear> urlin2u: I came across a bit sarcastic, sorry. :-P trying to figure this out.... urlin2u: Yar. Check arch's man pages? I can help you translate it into ubuntu most likely.
[01:01] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, sounds good. I'm going to cancel the install and see what happens. If I'm good with a boot, I'll install 10.10, then upgrade to 11.04. I should have fine that from the beginning
[01:02] <n2i> no! pekwm cannot display wallpaper(using feh)
[01:02] <AlexJb> Has anybody else had the problem, where when botting up and getting past the grub menu, it just get stuck on a black screen with blinking cursor?
[01:02] <xsrv> alpicola: the problem is, I want to list all the available wireless networks without using "sudo wlist"
[01:03] <xsrv> alpicola: only "iwlist"
[01:03] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, okay but are you familiar with partition limitations in the amounts, and if you have a standard mbr partitioning setup, Grub not installing should not be distro specific.
[01:03] <loverbear> n2i: Oh that's easy. :) Just add it to your x init script.
[01:04] <n2i> the screen was displayed like a windows os error. there are so many window when i trying to drap by mouse
[01:04] <Hot2Trot> what is the quickest, fastest apt-get package to install a web server?
[01:04] <g0th> hi
[01:04] <g0th> what's wrong with this script?
[01:04] <g0th> http://pastebin.com/6vGSAdiW
[01:04] <urlin2u> loverbear, you will have to work harder on the sarcasm I missed that. :D
[01:04] <loverbear> n2i: Ahh, yeah. Try adding a desktop setting command to your .xinitrc
[01:04] <Khisanth> xsrv: what is wrong with using sudo?
[01:04] <g0th> it works if I type in the commands individually on the command line and copy and paste the outputs instead of using variables
[01:04] <loverbear> urlin2u: It's supposed to be subtle (this is offtopic.)
[01:05] <CT1>  Hot2Trot: Depends what you want. lighttpg is VERY fast and light
[01:05] <notlistening> loverbear, try that app its very good
[01:05] <alpicola> xsrv: Only other things I can think of is making iwlist suid root, or invoking it with a script that is.
[01:05] <n2i> lovebear what i should add to .xinitrc?
[01:05] <CT1>  Hot2Trot: lighttpd*
[01:06] <xsrv> Khisanth: I want to get the output of iwlist through a PHP script that will run remotely, and running the web server as root would be dangerous
[01:06] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, windows is booting. I guess I just panicked. I'm going to delete the partition Ubuntu tried to install, them start over with an install of 10.10
[01:06] <loverbear> n2i: Double check in feh ---help, but you should be looking for something like feh --bg-scale /path/to/my/desktop.jpg
[01:06] <n2i> my .xinitrc contains only "exec pekwm"
[01:06] <Khisanth> xsrv: you don't need root to use sudo ...
[01:06] <loverbear> n2i: Right, add another line with feh on it (after pekwm)
[01:06] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, thanks for your counsel, I really appreciate it.
[01:07] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, just remember that 4 primary partitions is the limit on a standard HD, many windows setups have 4 already.
[01:07] <loverbear> xsrv: The whole point of sudo is to allow you to use root-only commands while logged in as an unprivilaged user
[01:07] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, no problem. :D
[01:08] <P05TMAN> urlin2u, I forgot about that! Thanks, I'll try it on my other drive.
[01:08] <notlistening> loverbear, actually my mouse keep going to sleep which is great for power saving but quite annoying always having to wake it up :D
[01:08] <xsrv> overbear, Khisanth: I know that, but then the user would have to store the root password in a plaintext php file, or send it in plaintext through the internet
[01:08] <n2i> lovebear thank you! i will try to fix it and come back to show you the result.
[01:08] <xsrv> overbear, Khisanth: since the script will run remotely
[01:09] <Khisanth> xsrv: no root password involved
[01:09] <n2i> goodbye!
[01:09] <loverbear> xsrv: Prompt for password interactively?
[01:09] <urlin2u> P05TMAN, a extended with 3 primaries is okay the extended will take the logical ext4's for ubuntu and a shared ntfs for ubuntu and windows, you may know all of this , but we want you safe. :D
[01:09] <xsrv> loverbear: "send it in plaintext through the internet"
[01:10] <xsrv> Khisanth: how would I use sudo without root pass?
[01:10] <loverbear> xsrv: All sudo requires the the user to be on the sudoers file and have their own user password. So while running the script just have it be authenicated by the local user in your ssh sessoin that you're running the file in.
[01:10] <Khisanth> xsrv: you can also configure passwordless sudo for a specific user to run a specific command
[01:11] <notlistening> right fixed my mouse :D
[01:11] <Khisanth> xsrv: but it should never be the root pass anyway
[01:11] <P05TMAN> uin2u, yes, thank you! Until next time! :^}
[01:11] <xsrv> Khisanth, overbear: that would still be a risk
[01:12] <loverbear> notlistening: Congratulations. I'm thinking I'll just work on a funtoo set up since I can keep things more tidy
[01:12] <xsrv> Khisanth, overbear: as long as you can get a root shell with that pass...
[01:12] <carl_> first time on here, any tips?
[01:12] <loverbear> xsrv: My way is run in SSH (secure), the password is transmitted securely to the machine, is only a local user password (not root) and you can even run it as a user with only permission to run the commands needed.
[01:13] <loverbear> xsrv: Honestly if you need more secure you shouldn't be asking on irc.
[01:13] <urlin2u> carl_, be sure to enjoy yourself, and stay hydrated. :D
[01:13] <xsrv> loverbear: i'm just trying to list available wifi networks, i just don't think you really need a password for that
[01:14] <loverbear> xsrv: Oh lol. That's easy.
[01:14] <loverbear> xsrv: Well, if you use wicd it is. I dunno about NM-applet
[01:14] <Ningirsu> How can I use Boot Repair when I have to boot from its iso?
[01:15] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, can you tell us what the problem actually is?
[01:15] <xsrv> loverbear: originally, I was just asking if there was a way to list available wifi networks without running the program as root, then someone asked what was the problem with using "sudo", and here we are
[01:16] <loverbear> xsrv: Haha wow. Alright. Let me take a little look around. Haven't used nm-applet
[01:16] <Ningirsu> Well, my Grub doesn't work because I recently removed an unused partition of my hard drive and I need to use Boot Repair but I can't do it on my live session because my damn Trisquel distro won't allow it
[01:17] <notlistening> xserv, could you run the script to check networks under crontab as root and output to a file readable by the users/process that needs it?
[01:17] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, if your setting it up for possible future failures it is a cheat tool you can do the same with a live cd, much more accurately.
[01:17] <xsrv> loverbear: wicd might do it, but I didn't want to make people install that only to run my PHP script properly
[01:17] <loverbear> Yeah exactly
[01:18] <loverbear> Let me look around. xsrv, this is meant to be run only on ubuntu machines? or all machines?
[01:18] <Ningirsu> urlin2u: No, it's actually necessary to fix my recent grub problem
[01:18] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, what OS's are still on the computer?
[01:18] <Markas> hello
[01:19] <Ningirsu> urlin2u: There's Trisquel Taranis 4.1 and Windows 7
[01:19] <Markas> I've got a problem in instaling Ubuntu
[01:19] <loverbear> xsrv: http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/ Check that out, particularly iwlist.
[01:19] <Markas> I want to install it with two partions
[01:20] <Markas> and I formated my HD
[01:20] <xsrv> loverbear: I'll make and test it to run in Ubuntu only, it may be ok to run it in other distros, but if it will run properly or not is not my problem
[01:20] <loverbear> Markas: Please use one line if possible for your question. :)
[01:20] <Markas> but I can't make the boot point for thses partions to the root dir
[01:20] <xsrv> loverbear: I'll take a look at that :)
[01:21] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, so first your on the wrong channel, if Trisquel Taranis 4.1 is a bootable OS I suspect easybcd will boot it, so use a recvery disc or install disc of W7 to boot to a recovery terminal, and run bootrec.exe /fixmbr to get windows back at this time.
[01:21] <Markas> loverbear sorry ,do you got it or want me to use a single line ?
[01:21] <xsrv> loverbear: again… iwlist doesn't list ALL the available networks if it's not running as root, lol
[01:21] <notlistening> loverbear, that program i recomend actually is quite cool, it gives some great pointers as to how to save power but only makes the changes temporary to test them out
[01:21] <loverbear> xsrv: it looks a bit messy so you might need to clean up the output a bit... Also not sure if it shows all since I only have one access point nearby
[01:22] <loverbear> notlistening: Powertop? Yeah. :) I use it a lot, but this is a liveUSB so no point.
[01:22] <xsrv> loverbear: yeah, I would clean the output :)
[01:22] <loverbear> Markas: Please format your question using a single line of words, like so, so that people who want to help you don't have to go searcing through multiple messages.
[01:22] <notlistening> oh yeah, you don't have a persistent data area?
[01:23] <xsrv> loverbear: but still, I tested it here, when not running as root it shows only the access point you are connected to
[01:23] <loverbear> notlistening: I'm still looking at distros since ubuntu doesn't seem right for me. :-P
[01:23] <loverbear> xsrv: I'll keep poking around a bit.
[01:23] <Ningirsu> urlin2u,: I know that I'm on the wrong channel but the most detailed descriptions on how to use this software is situated on Ubuntu's page so I figured that there might be somebody who knows how to make it work
[01:24] <xsrv> loverbear: thanks
[01:24] <Ningirsu> urlin2u, : What's easybcd?
[01:24] <loverbear> xsrv: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/wi-fi-command-line They use iwlist here as well. Saying that each nearby point should give a new cell.
[01:24] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, it is a bootloader you can install in windows to boot other OS's like XP if needed and linux stuff.
[01:25] <loverbear> Huh. Unity managed to impress me, hotplugging a new monitor yeilded (near) good results.
[01:25] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, lots of windows users use it if they want to keep the ms boot in the mbr.
[01:25] <notlistening> xsrv, do you have to disconnect to scan?
[01:25] <Markas> I formated my Harddisk ,and I wanted to install Ubuntu with partitioning it to three partitions, one for Ubuntu and 2 free ,but it wont able to set the / dirc as a mount point for those 2 free partitions ?
[01:26] <devcalais> Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can change my login screen / screensaver lock screen? (11.04 / Unity)..
[01:26] <Ningirsu> urlin2u, :The problem is that I don't have a rescue disk of anything besides Trisquel and my problem is that I have to make this software work somehow
[01:26] <loverbear> Markas: No.  / is your root folder, so you can't mount multiple disks there easily, you'll want to mount them somewhere else or not at all.
[01:27] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, if you have a ubuntu cd you can install llio to boot windows do you have a ubuntu live cd?
[01:27] <urlin2u> lilo*
[01:28] <loverbear> Markas: If you want the other partitions for other OSs just leave them unmounted and install onto them later (then add to your existing grub), if you want them as backup or data partitions just have them mount on say, /mnt/my_disk1 and so on.
[01:28] <Ningirsu> urlin2u,: If I have an Ubuntu liveUSB, won't I have Boot Repair anyway? :S
[01:28] <Markas> loverbear I've mountem them in somewhere else but , they don't apear in the "Places" list in the Application menu ?
[01:28] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, I have never used boot repair, that is for noobs.
[01:29] <silverarrow1> is there a way to check a usb connected bluetooth?
[01:29] <Ningirsu> urlin2u, : Rescatux?
[01:29] <loverbear> Markas: Right, so if you want them to be recognized as internal/spare/external drives you just unmount and don't have them assigned to mount anywhere. HAL (or whatever ubuntu uses) will pick them up as internal storage devices and you can mount them from that menu
[01:29] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, I don't like hidden processes in other words that app just save the mbr I believe and needs the OOS it was installed in still there.
[01:30] <Markas> loverbear How I can do that ?
[01:30] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, I have a simple fix here that is all I can offer.
[01:30] <silverarrow1> does anyone have an external bluetooth device in ubuntu?
[01:31] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, here is the lilo instructions if you need them its dinner time for me now.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/681328/
[01:31] <silverarrow1> any bluetooth users?
[01:31] <loverbear> Markas: You'll want to edit /etc/fstab (if ubuntu is like other distros I've used) and just remove the two drives entries. You might want to do some research on what fstab is and be very careful. :)
[01:31] <achromat> silverarrow1: I have a bluetooth keyboard set up on 10.4
[01:32] <Ningirsu> Ok. So let me rephrase my question: How can I install Boot Repair from its CD using a terminal?
[01:32] <xsrv> notlistening: I didn't understand your question
[01:32] <silverarrow1> achromat: then it should work
[01:32] <Markas> loverbear thank you so much :)
[01:32] <achromat> silverarrow1: Yes, are you having a problem with bluetooth?
[01:32] <xsrv> loverbear: they use sudo
[01:32] <loverbear> Markas: I'm about to leave this channel but if you need help (or want me to check your fstab before you save it <--- Good idea) just PM me.
[01:32] <silverarrow1> achromat: it is a usb device, and light is blinking there, but nothing detected in os?
[01:32] <Osmodivs> ...
[01:33] <zombieSLAYER> can anyone tell me why this player works in Chrom but not firefox?
[01:33] <loverbear> xsrv: I'm missing something. :S
[01:33] <zombieSLAYER> http://holdingfunnel.com/zombie/
[01:33] <loverbear> zombieSLAYER: Works fine for me.
[01:33] <xsrv> loverbear: read again, it says "To scan your environment for available networks, do the following:
[01:33] <xsrv> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[01:34] <loverbear> xsrv: Gah you're right.
[01:34] <zombieSLAYER> in firefox?
[01:34] <zombieSLAYER> the top circle?
[01:34] <loverbear> zombieSLAYER: On ubuntu live CD with nothing aded the bottom circle works fine
[01:34] <loverbear> zombieSLAYER: Top one flails though.
[01:34] <achromat> silverarrow1: is the adapter detected by the os?
[01:34] <zombieSLAYER> yea the bottom one is from the demo
[01:35] <silverarrow1> achromat: no, I cannot see anything
[01:35] <zombieSLAYER> the top one is mine. all i did was change the song it points to
[01:35] <loverbear> zombieSLAYER: Are you using a different codec? Chrome supports more formats then firefox iirc.
[01:35] <silverarrow1> achromat: maybe though, since device indicator light is on?
[01:35] <xsrv> loverbear: I guess my script will be only able to give info about the current network :(
[01:35] <zombieSLAYER> i encoded the song to m4a using itunes
[01:35] <loverbear> zombieSLAYER: Firefox actually even pops us saying it needs more codecs
[01:36] <zombieSLAYER> is there a way to encode m4a that is firefox compatable?
[01:37] <zombieSLAYER> default
[01:37] <urlin2u> Ningirsu, you are on the wrong channel in the end this is for ubuntu only support you do not have ubuntu. In spite of that I have given you some options, so ethoier use them or go to a channel that might help.
[01:37] <loverbear> zombieSLAYER: Ask #firefox or something. I've no idea.
[01:37] <blsh0p> ok currently i use ubuntu with a laptop. Everytime i start ubuntu with my laptop plugged in, i get the normal background and gui.  WTF is going on!!???
[01:37] <zombieSLAYER> so it just works in firefox
[01:37] <zombieSLAYER> thx
[01:38] <loverbear> zombieSLAYER: Try some other formats too. :)
[01:38] <achromat> silverarrow1: I didn't have much trouble setting my adapter up. is it listed in lsusb?
[01:38] <blsh0p> how come when i start ubuntu without my laptop plugged in, it turns into a crappy gui that looks like windows 97
[01:38] <silverarrow1> achromat: , terminal ?
[01:38] <loverbear> blsh0p: You're probably loosing compositing or something of the effect.
[01:38] <notlistening> Was there even a windows 97 :D
[01:39] <achromat> silverarrow1: Yes.
[01:39] <urlin2u> blsh0p, which release?
[01:39] <blsh0p> 11.07
[01:39] <rectec794613> Hello. Right now my /dev/core file claims to be 128TB, which is *impossible*. Could somebody explain me what this file is?
[01:39] <th0r> blsh0p: been on earth long?
[01:39] <blsh0p> it starts off normal, but after 5 seconds, it turns into crap 97 look
[01:39] <urlin2u> blsh0p, not a real release is it 11.10?
[01:39] <blsh0p> th0r what do u mean?
[01:39] <notlistening> th0r, lol
[01:39] <blsh0p> yes
[01:39] <blsh0p> 11.10
[01:39] <th0r> blsh0p: there is no 11.07
[01:39] <silverarrow1> achromat: , yes "D 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)" Must be active then?
[01:40] <blsh0p> ok, 11.10
[01:40] <blsh0p> natty nharwall
[01:40] <silverarrow1> achromat: thanks for the command tip
[01:40] <urlin2u> blsh0p, reboot it and go to #ubuntu+1 my install did that earlier today.
[01:40] <urlin2u> blsh0p, natty is 11.04.
[01:40] <achromat> silverarrow1: it should be, what happens when you go to System >Preferences > Bluetooth?
[01:41] <blsh0p> urlin, what is ubuntu+1
[01:41] <Ningirsu> I see. Despite the fact that I'm asking on which commands to use on the terminal which is the same language on any distro,it seems that Ubuntu is already on its way to become another monopole or join the Windows-Apple OS cartel
[01:41] <silverarrow1> achromat: then it must be something in the other end; printer and mobile phone?
[01:41] <blsh0p> wait what is 11.10
[01:41] <blsh0p> ?
[01:41] <Ningirsu> Good luck to y'all then
[01:41] <rectec794613> anybody
[01:41] <rectec794613> ?
[01:41] <^Mike> ubottu: msn
[01:41] <urlin2u> blsh0p, 11.10 Oneiric in development, are you sure that s not what you have?
[01:41] <blsh0p> no
[01:41] <blsh0p> i have 11.04
[01:41] <blsh0p> natty nharwall
[01:42] <luzifer_> hola
[01:42] <awise12> !info weechat
[01:42] <blsh0p> why does it keep doing that?
[01:42] <rectec794613> Hello. Right now my /dev/core file claims to be 128TB, which is *impossible*. Could somebody explain me what this file is?
[01:43] <notlistening> rectec794613, what reports that?
[01:44] <rectec794613> notlistening: nautilus
[01:44] <rectec794613> notlistening: and Glary Utilities' Disk Analysis
[01:44] <luzifer_> hello my mouse is cyborg rat3. can i design the botons
[01:44] <luzifer_> ?
[01:45] <notlistening> rectec794613, mine is also huge :D
[01:45] <silverarrow1> achromat: cannot find anything, mind you, I have lubuntu, much the same, but not exactly as regular Ubuntu
[01:45] <rectec794613> notlistening: it's obviously not actually taking up that much space our our pc's would explode.
[01:45] <rectec794613> notlistening: but what is it?
[01:46] <notlistening> rectec794613, it says program crash data
[01:46] <luzifer_> mmmm
[01:46] <luzifer_> que tengan todos una buena noche
[01:47] <urlin2u> !es
[01:47] <heather> HKeepsie
[01:47] <heather> hello
[01:47] <rectec794613> !spanglish
[01:47] <urlin2u> lol
[01:47] <rectec794613> isnt there like a cheese command or somehting like that?
[01:48] <silverarrow1> achromat: I'm sorry I started this and cannot follow through, my head is mush, fogged up by computer issues, and need  a break
[01:48] <achromat> silverarrow1: Well good luck in the future then. Sorry I couldn't help.
[01:48] <heather_> keepsie30
[01:49] <silverarrow1> achromat: probably sort it out tomorrow
[01:49] <silverarrow1> achromat: thanks anyway
[01:49] <heather_> good evening
[01:49] <rectec794613> hows it goin
[01:49] <heather_> checking this out
[01:49] <notlistening> this..?
[01:50] <rectec794613> anybody got any more info on that insane core file?
[01:50] <urlin2u> rectec794613, where is it reading it that way?
[01:50] <rectec794613> and where it gets the !es cajones to claim it's 128TB
[01:50] <notlistening> rectec794613, I get bad crash dumps from evolution, I have a few years of mail in there and it doesn't like that, do you get many crashes?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> It may be a quirk of how the file works...
[01:51] <rectec794613> urlin2u: it shows that under the file name in nautilus
[01:51] <rectec794613> notlistening: not anymore since I started using compiz with gnome like ur sopposed to :P
[01:51] <notlistening> rectec794613, it is actually linked to /proc/kcore
[01:51] <notlistening> So you don't want to go messing with that
[01:52] <blsh0p> what is UBUNTU SERVER?
[01:52] <rectec794613> notlistening: well as long as it
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/whats-the-dev-core-device-706205/
[01:52] <rectec794613> ahem
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> blsh0p:  a server edition of ubuntu....
[01:52] <rectec794613> notlistening: is not as big as it claims
[01:52] <notlistening> do you have 128 GB of ram?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/whats-the-dev-core-device-706205/    It maybe  thats the max that a system could have.. 128gb...
[01:53] <notlistening> Well mine reports 1gb and i have 8 installed :P
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-enterprise-47/proc-kcore-problems-urgent-623093/
[01:54] <warning123> hi all
[01:55] <rectec794613> well if it says it's 128TB it's probably just lieing
[01:55] <warning123> i am running a game server in my terminal and suddenly my terminal dissapeared , how to go back to that live terminal from another terminal?
[01:56] <rectec794613> I have only 59GB allocated to Ubuntu on a 250GB hdd, if there's actually a 128TB file on it then it must be fake
[01:56] <vectory> rectec794613: do `du -s /dev/core' or ll /dev/core
[01:57] <rectec794613> vectory: 0b
[01:57] <rectec794613> lol
[01:57] <KoolaidJunkie> Hey, anyone here?
[01:57] <rectec794613> or kb whatever the measurement it
[01:57] <vectory> rectec794613: for me, too, but but "ll -h" shows 128T idd O.o
[01:58] <KoolaidJunkie> Is this a good place to get help with Ubuntu Server?
[01:58] <vectory> /j ubuntu-server perhaps
[01:59] <blsh0p> what is ubuntu  server???!?!?!?
[01:59] <vectory> but only makes sense if its specifically server related, KoolaidJunkie ^
[01:59] <warning123> KoolaidJunkie, #ubuntu-server
[01:59] <cbarnardo> How do I upgrade a package of the same but from a different repo? I want to install python 2.7.2 but I already 2.7.1 installed https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/calibre-lucid please help I beg you
[01:59] <KoolaidJunkie> Vectory, Thanks you, and Yes its server related - need help with ddclient
[02:00] <notlistening> redrocket, yeah the proc directory provides a window into the kernel and takes up no real space on your hard disk
[02:00] <xangua> cbarnardo: just add the ppa, the instructions are there
[02:00] <notlistening> blsh0p, a commandline only version of ubuntu for running on servers
[02:01] <cbarnardo> xangua: I did but apt-get upgrade did nothing do I do something else?
[02:01] <vectory> what makes it different from the minimal install?
[02:01] <xangua> cbarnardo: and nobody but you is responsible off add it
[02:01] <notlistening> rectec794613,  yeah the proc directory provides a window into the kernel and takes up no real space on your hard disk
[02:01] <Verbrosa> Hello can someone PM me about Java, i'm new to ubuntu/linux OS and having problems understanding
[02:01] <xangua> cbarnardo: well it says it only has packages for lucid, you are not runing lucid then
[02:01] <vectory> ,java! vebrosa
[02:01] <notlistening> Verbrosa, you can ask here as it help others which similar questions
[02:02] <vectory> hmmm
[02:02] <rectec794613> ok good
[02:02] <rectec794613> sorry I was busy changing some settings
[02:02] <cbarnardo> xangua: oh you are right I am on natty. sorry.
[02:02] <Verbrosa> Okay, well let me try something ONE second I may be back =-) if this doesn't work
[02:02] <notlistening> don't panic rectec794613 :D
[02:02] <rectec794613> sorry I was busy panicking
[02:02] <vectory> !java, Verbrosa
[02:03] <vectory> ubottu: java
[02:03] <Verbrosa> !java
[02:03] <notlistening> lol rectec794613, its good to learn these things ;)
[02:03] <rectec794613> ubottu: test
[02:03] <rectec794613> oh yeah?
[02:04] <rectec794613> ubottu: testicles
[02:04] <rectec794613> oh well
[02:04] <notlistening> #gimp
[02:04] <rectec794613> lol last time I was on #Kubuntu we were having hella fun with ubuttu
[02:04] <rectec794613> ubottu*
[02:04] <notlistening> or did i misunderstand that :D
[02:04] <notlistening> lol rectec794613
[02:05] <notlistening> ubottu: gimp
[02:05] <achromat> Okay, I've googled this many times and haven't found a solution that worked for me yet. On both 10.4 and 11.04 Ubuntu crashes when trying to connect to wifi. I'm using the 2.6.38-8generic kernel and ath9k drivers on an eeepc 1001P. Has anyone solved this?
[02:05] <rectec794613> ubottu:  what's up?
[02:05] <rectec794613> here we go
[02:05] <xangua> notlistening: rectec794613you can play with the bot in private, don't here please
[02:05] <Amaranth> !offtopic
[02:05] <Verbrosa> I'm unable to go into https sites..... due to this limited internet I have atm...
[02:05] <rectec794613> yeah yeah yeah
[02:06] <notlistening> sorry xangua ;)
[02:06] <rectec794613> I know a bunch of you guys would come out and get mad :P
[02:06]  * rectec794613 has experience
[02:06] <xangua> achromat: no issues with 2.6.38 kernel, you are gonna need to be more specific
[02:06] <warning123> if u lose a processing terminal , how to get back to that live terminal that is processing? when viewing things from ssh for instant
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> warning123:  this is why people often use screen with ssh.
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> you can easially reconnect to the session.
[02:07] <Kronsby> Is there a fix for the minecraft linux key sticking bug?
[02:07] <notlistening> warning123, generally the process dies as the ssh session is broken, what processing where you doing and did you run it from the ssh terminal?
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> Kronsby:  perhaps a check of the minecraft forums/support ?
[02:07] <warning123> i started a game server notlistening
[02:08] <notlistening> warning123, can you see it still running?
[02:08] <warning123> notlistening, yes server dies , how can i make server still run , while i leave the ssh session? and how can i get back to it for checking for instant to perform tasks like /changemap etc..
[02:09] <notlistening> Try what the Dr suggested
[02:09] <qin> warning123: screen, byobu, tmux
[02:09] <jerry128> I am trying to install a PHP script, and for some reason the folder that contains the PHP (outside of the folder, that is)is not showing in HTTP document root under Apache
[02:10] <jerry128> no htaccess file installed
[02:10] <achromat> xangua: well, the system just locks up and doesn't spit out any errors and I'm forced to do a hard shutdown. I've tried 2 versions of ubuntu in both live, and installed environments, and I've tried using both wicd as well as the default applet that comes with 11.04 to connect. Eth0 works fine. All the hardware is running smoothly. And i've tried connecting to both encrypted and unencrypted
[02:10] <achromat> networks.
[02:10] <warning123> notlistening, qin Dr_Willis , i have putty installed , if i save a session can a friend use the same session?
[02:11] <warning123> notlistening, qin Dr_Willis , and will the same processing session show ( as in the live game server terminal console )
[02:11] <notlistening> achromat, can you switch to a virtual terminal after enabling wifi or is it a hard reset?
[02:11] <octavio-rdz> hi room does any body knows if there is a migration path from evolution to thunderbird?
[02:12] <notlistening> warning123, what game server is it?
[02:12] <achromat> achromat: no I cannot. I tried a dmesg | tail -f to see if it spit out anything as it was locking up but nothing printed to the console.
[02:12] <achromat> notlistening: oops, somehow I just addressed myself.
[02:13] <notlistening> achromat, have you checked the logs are reboot?
[02:13] <notlistening> *after
[02:13] <qin> achromat: dmesg | tail or tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[02:14] <r0z4> Hi, somebody can help me with my sound in ubuntu 10 04, i can only record sound from my computer ex when i play a sound from my pc i can, but whe i talk in ky michophone i cant
[02:15] <notlistening> Right need sleep night all
[02:15] <achromat> qin: are you saying do this after a reboot or before enabling the wifi?
[02:15] <notlistening> achromat, have it running in a terminal you can see
[02:15] <qin> achromat: Just pointing that -f is likely to not work with pipe.
[02:16] <warning123> notlistening, its running mumble aka voice chat application
[02:17] <warning123> notlistening, i dont want the console window to be on my computer all the time , i just want to start the server and leave and check back to it from time to time thats all
[02:17] <octavio-rdz> hi room does any body knows how to migrate  a evolution backup file to thunderbird
[02:17] <chuck_> anyone here help out a noob with installing ubuntu 11.04?
[02:17] <r0z4> i only can record with the first configuration with the second is imposible to me but i cant record with my michrophone http://imagebin.org/171066
[02:18] <achromat> notlistening and qin: I'll check that now. I didn't know -f wouldn't work when piped.
[02:19] <octavio-rdz> cuck_ hi what is the problem with the installer?
[02:19] <warning123> whenever i close the ssh session the server closes , is their a way to make it keep running?
[02:20] <warning123> and is their a way to get back to check that running console server
[02:20] <chuck_> when i tried to install it on my asus 1015 pem netbook it started fine but then i kept gettting a message that said "ubi-partman failed on exit exit code 127"
[02:20] <JRWR> I am having a issue with mod_shared_roster_ldap - It seems to be crashing, here is a related pastebin with all the info that should help, http://pastebin.com/yMVVKN5W
[02:20] <zykotick9_> warning123, check out "screen" it's old school but very cool
[02:21] <chuck_> i tried googling it but no luck, so i went ahead and decided to try it anyway, it has been sitting on the slideshow now for almost 1.5 hours
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> warning123:  with screen... yes
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> warning123:  or the tweaked screen byobu
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> alternative to screen is tmux i think
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> !info tmux
[02:21] <zykotick9_> warning123, byobu is probably better - certainly better maintained, which is a HUGE plus
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> !info byobu
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> byobu is a teaked screen setup for beginners. :)  and old timers
[02:23] <achromat> notlistening and qin: Nothing prints when the OS crashes, and nothing relevant is in dmesg after reboot.
[02:24] <chuck_> so is that a normal install time or did i screw something up, and if so what should be done now?
[02:25] <warning123> Dr_Willis, il try screen , any commands to get back to the processing service ( console terminal ) when i end session then want to get back and check
[02:25] <urlin2u> chuck_, did you md5sum the ISO?
[02:25] <notlistening> chuck, do you have raid
[02:26] <zykotick9_> warning123, "screen -ls" and "screen -r #"
[02:26] <notlistening> warning123, do you need to issue the server commands or just check its logs, best way to run it would be as a service and just login and check the log files
[02:27] <warning123> thanks alot zykotick9_
[02:27] <chuck_> yes i did md5sum the iso it is good
[02:28] <chuck_> don't know what raid is
[02:28] <zykotick9_> warning123, glad to help
[02:28] <warning123> zykotick9_, what a pro what a pro <3=) party whenever you go
[02:29] <octavio-rdz> chuck are you downloading internate updates? are you upgrading form other version?
[02:29] <warning123> notlistening, whats the command to run it as a service>
[02:29] <warning123> :<
[02:30] <chuck_> i downloaded the desktop version, never had anything but windows 7 starter on that computer, i am trying to dual boot it
[02:30] <urlin2u> chuck_, so what distro is it did you click the download updates buttons, and how fast is your internet service? tha is a long time but these factors play in on that.
[02:30] <urlin2u> *that
[02:30] <WebETGUser815> Hi guys
[02:31] <notlistening> warning you need to go into /etc/init.d/ and check if there is a file there the same names as the voice server
[02:31] <chuck_> the distro is ubuntu 11.04 32 bit desktop, yes i clicked download updates, my internet connection is fairly quick, but it is wireless, wireless on the asus is working fine
[02:31] <kolix> I'm currently running apache on ubuntu server 11.04...However, my machine is currently behind a router./...How do i configure the router to so i can ssh and see my web stuff?
[02:31] <troubleagain> I installed my boot partition on an external usb flash drive which also contains the dm-crypt keyfiles. How do I mount the this USB drive during the boot process (I added the appropriate entry to HOOKS) and how would I reference the keyfiles in /etc/crypttab?
[02:31] <kolix> btw, I've got my "outside ip" by ipchicken
[02:32] <notlistening> kolix, ssh for remote login, or http to see webpages?
[02:32] <warning123> notlistening, im logged as root  , whats the command to make it a session so it doesnt timeout when i leave or end's
[02:32] <lqf> hello
[02:32] <mightyms> hello test
[02:32] <Aple> How do I upgrade Python on Ubuntu?
[02:32] <mightyms> apt-get update?
[02:32] <kolix> notlistening, you dont understand, my machine is behind a router...I can ssh when I'm on the same network...but fails when i connect from outside the LAN
[02:33] <notlistening> warning I am not sure about that when doing it with ssh
[02:33] <urlin2u> chuck_, hars to say a straight install is about 20 min, with all the updates for natty, it would longer for sure.
[02:33] <ibuR> hello
[02:33] <urlin2u> *hard
[02:33] <notlistening> yes kolix is was just confusing the terminology your using
[02:33] <ibuR> how do I install ubuntu to boot up from a pen drive / flash drive?
[02:34] <chuck_> urlin2u, think i should just wait?  been almost 2 hrs now, or can i exit somehow and start from scratch?
[02:34] <notlistening> kolix, first I would really recommend using RSA certificates if you open it up the the whole world
[02:34] <urlin2u> ibuR, load the iso to a usb with unetbootin.
[02:34] <kolix> ok..
[02:34] <kolix> but i found on google i need to port forwward
[02:34] <zykotick9_> kolix, you need to forward ports 22 (ssh) and 80 (html) on your router to point to the IP of your server (can be tricky if you're using DHCP).  Good luck.
[02:34] <notlistening> check_, you need to restart
[02:34] <kolix> thanks
[02:34] <ibuR> urlin2u will try, thank you
[02:34] <urlin2u> chuck_, you can always shut it down, are there any other OS's on the hd?
[02:34] <kolix> I'm in the router now...i'll poke around and test some things. I"ll be back :)
[02:34] <urlin2u> ibuR, your welcome.
[02:34] <notlistening> kolix yeah you do but you need it to be secure before you open it up
[02:34] <kolix> thanks guys
[02:35] <chuck_> urlin2u, yes windows 7 starter
[02:35] <Aple> mightyms: "sudo apt-get update python" returns "E: The update command takes no arguments"
[02:35] <warning123> notlistening, their is init in /etc/ init file , how to edit it ? gededit? i remember useing that back from dapper
[02:35] <urlin2u> chuck_, did you check on how many partitions were there to begin with?
[02:35] <notlistening> kolix on my router you assign an internal IP to the port so traffic comming in from the outside world hits that port on your internal machine and gets serviced
[02:36] <chuck_> pretty sure there were 4 but not 100%
[02:36] <notlistening> no warning you need to get into /etc/init.d/
[02:36] <notlistening> warning, that is a directory
[02:36] <Aple> mightyms: Oh, it was "upgrade" instead of "update". Works fine now. ;)
[02:36] <urlin2u> chuck_, if you had four another will make the hd go dynamic, 4 primaries per HD is the limit.
[02:36] <warning123> notlistening, thanks , im in now
[02:37] <urlin2u> chuck_, unless a uuid gpt.
[02:37] <zykotick9_> Aple, FYI you should always run update before you run upgrade
[02:37] <chuck_> alright, so i need to turn it off and manually partition?
[02:37] <notlistening> urlin2u, would playing with the f6 options help him?
[02:37] <lqf> exit
[02:38] <warning123> notlistening, i see acpid - apf - and alot of other stuff like kudzu nfslock rdisc
[02:38] <kolix> ok
[02:38] <kolix> where would i configure my router to port forward...under what option?
 great ^^
[02:38] <notlistening> yeah you are looking for the name of the server in there
[02:38] <urlin2u> chuck_, hard to say you are there and without any definitive info we are not able to help, shutting it down and posting a screen shot of the gparted partitioner on the cd would be helpful.
[02:38] <kolix> DNS?
[02:38] <troubleagain> I installed my boot partition on an external usb flash drive which also contains the dm-crypt keyfiles. How do I mount the this USB drive during the boot process (I added the appropriate entry to HOOKS) and how would I reference the keyfiles in /etc/crypttab?
[02:38] <urlin2u> notlistening, for what, a install on a HD with 4 primaries possibly.
[02:39] <notlistening> kolix what router do you have?
[02:39] <chuck_> does it help at all if i say it ran fine in live mode?
[02:39] <chuck_> i am using a live usb
[02:39] <urlin2u> chuck_, no
[02:39] <urlin2u> chuck_, ;ive it is not using the hd.
[02:39] <urlin2u> live
[02:39] <notlistening> urlin2u, well I was just unsure about his hardware that's all, worth a quick try i thought
[02:40] <kolix> belkin
[02:40] <kolix> wireless G
[02:40] <urlin2u> notlistening, read the posts.
[02:40] <notlistening> kolix model?
[02:40] <notlistening> urlin2u, okay
[02:40] <chuck_> urlin2u, i was attempting to install from a live usb, sorry i am totally new at this
[02:41] <warning123> notlistening, should server be running first to show their? i see webmin and netconsole which may be the probable things , will it be better to launch through webmin ? i tried but once i loged out sesion is ended also
[02:41] <urlin2u> chuck_, no problem hopefuly you have not damaged your windows are you backed up and do you have a recovery disc for windows?
[02:41] <kolix> would it be under firewall?
[02:42] <chuck_> urlin2u, yes all my data is backed up, windows boots fine, just turned it off and rebooted
[02:42] <notlistening> kolix, might be under virtual servers
[02:42] <itaylor57> !webmin | warning123
[02:42] <chuck_> urlin2u yes the hdd has 4 partions
[02:43] <xsrv> noob
[02:43] <Osmond> question, I would like to make a function that will display all the keys and values of a table, how would I do this?
[02:43] <notlistening> warning123, the files you see in there are like startup scripts if there is not one for the voice server then try google to find for it, there might be an example online with instructions
[02:44] <warning123> notlistening, thanks =)
[02:44] <urlin2u> chuck_, okay if you have not made the HD dynamic one will have to go to get a extended type partition in to put the logical type partition for ubuntu and a swap partition.
[02:44] <chuck_> ok urlin2u, not quite sure what that means
[02:44] <urlin2u> chuck_, lest confirm the HD set up with a screenshot of gparted before you do anything though
[02:44] <urlin2u> lets
[02:45] <notlistening> kolix you going to need to configure the firewall as well
[02:45] <chuck_> urlin2u, i am using easeus partion master on windows to look at it
[02:46] <urlin2u> chuck_, I want to see a gparted picture off the ubuntu cd, a windows partitioner can hide stuff we want to see.
[02:46] <jungki> zxcvcv
[02:46] <chuck_> ok, i will reboot it
[02:46] <urlin2u> chuck_, cool thanks.
[02:48] <urlin2u> chuck_, widows has its own built in partitioner that will shrink the running system that is your best tool for shrinking any W7 active=c partitions if needed.
[02:48] <chuck_> urlin2u, silly question but how do i take a screen shot in ubuntu
[02:49] <urlin2u> chuck_, prtsc okey r there is a screenshot tool
[02:49] <urlin2u> chuck_, prtsc key or there is a screenshot tool
[02:50] <urlin2u> chuck_, you can paste it here then post the url. http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[02:50] <chuck_> thanks urlin2u, just waiting on it to finish loading now
[02:51] <urlin2u> chuck_, no problem.
[02:52] <Luke_007> hi, urlin2u! can i use PrtSc to take screen shot in gnome3?
[02:53] <urlin2u> Luke_007, probably, what distro are you running?
[02:53] <Luke_007> fedora 15
[02:54] <th0r> Luke_007: and you asked in ubuntu because....?
[02:54] <urlin2u> Luke_007, you know of the fedora channel I assume we can't actually help on the OS.
[02:54] <Luke_007> Uhh, I used to be a ubuntu user...
[02:55] <Luke_007> I just trying fedora for few days
[02:56] <wjie> 大家好啊
[02:56] <yekoms> http://denied-inter.net:81/help.jpg is what problems im having installing ubuntu
[02:56] <IdleOne> I used to drive a ford but they won't guaranty my toyota
[02:56] <yekoms> gentoo, freebsd, ubuntu, mandrivia. all of them do this.
[02:56] <IdleOne> Luke_007: ask in #fedora
[02:57] <Luke_007> Ok... Thanks a lot
[02:57] <wjie> UBUNTU11.10 要发布了，期待啊
[02:57] <IdleOne> !cn
[02:58] <dancallo> join irc.freenode.net
[02:58] <yekoms> no ideas?
[02:58] <stephenthemartyr> is it possible to upgrade something or download something without synaptic and apt removing others software i want to keep
[02:58] <dancallo> #plone
[02:58] <wjie> 喜欢和老外接触，IRC不是全球聊天室么？GOOGLE
[02:59] <Luke_007> quit
[02:59] <Luke_007> sorry
[02:59] <Flannel> stephenthemartyr: That's far too vague for us to answer precisely, but in general: no, things depend on each other for a reason.
[03:00] <urlin2u> yekoms, a picture says nothing hows about some backgound.
[03:00] <yekoms> uhm, i cant install or boot liveCDs cause of this.
[03:00] <yekoms> and im not sure on howto fix it
[03:00] <Stanley00> !cn | wjie
[03:01] <wjie> ubottu？是机器人？
[03:01] <stephenthemartyr> i want to downoad guitarix 2 without it removing tangostudios which is all my music programs
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> guitarix is in the repos?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> !info guitarix
[03:01] <stephenthemartyr> Flannel: still there must be a way
[03:01] <urlin2u> yekoms, try tapping f12 at powering on the computer to get a boot from menu, and choose the cd reader, or usb what ever your trying to boot,.
[03:02] <yekoms> uhm ive been doing that
[03:02] <Flannel> stephenthemartyr: Let me take a look at these particular packages
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> !info  tangostudio
[03:02] <urlin2u> !cn | wjie
[03:02] <stephenthemartyr> its 10.4 lucid
[03:02] <Flannel> stephenthemartyr: Do you have an actual package name for tango studio?
[03:02] <stephenthemartyr> its a distro based off 10.4 lucid
[03:03] <Flannel> stephenthemartyr: guitarix isn't in 10.04
[03:03] <urlin2u> yekoms, tab nics so we can see who you are responding to when you hit f12 what menu do you get?
[03:03] <stephenthemartyr> it has many synths that are not in any "regukar" distro
[03:03] <yekoms> boot from CDROM or HARDDRIVE
[03:03] <yekoms> urlin2u,
[03:03] <stephenthemartyr> in tangostudio it is,plus ive added ppa's
[03:03] <Flannel> stephenthemartyr: I think it might be best to ask through their support channels then.  Obviously we've never heard of it, and have no idea how it was packaged.
[03:03] <urlin2u> yekoms, what is the computer model and manufacturer?
[03:04] <metbsd> ubuntu sucks
[03:04] <yekoms> hp dv6700
[03:04] <dungeon_archl> 我因为在#ubutnu-cn  不说中文被鄙视了，来这里说两句，证明没问题
[03:04] <Flannel> metbsd: Please help keep this channel on topic (support related), thanks.
[03:04] <wjie> 恩
[03:04] <stephenthemartyr> they dont have one really
[03:05] <stephenthemartyr> you could help me but ur bieng upitiy
[03:05] <rww> dungeon_archl: English here, please.
[03:05] <stephenthemartyr> upity
[03:05] <swaroop> I need help
[03:05] <swaroop> i formatted my XP sys with ext3
[03:05] <rww> stephenthemartyr: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu and its official derivatives. You are not using either of these. Please ask your distribution for support.
[03:05] <swaroop> is there a way to recover my files?
[03:05] <Flannel> stephenthemartyr: http://tangostudio.tuxfamily.org/forum/
[03:05] <th0r> swaroop: did you say goodbye first?
[03:06] <swaroop> no :/
[03:06] <swaroop> i have backup of most fioles
[03:06] <swaroop> Im ;lazy
[03:06] <metbsd> dungeon_archl, keep going
[03:06] <swaroop> & i have a prop. dumb mp3 [player aka Apple iPod Classic
[03:06] <Flannel> stephenthemartyr: We can't help you.  I have no idea what sound system you're using in tango studio (the one you don't want removed), as far as I can see, guitarix installs just fine into regular Ubuntu.
[03:06] <SucKiT> try UbuntuStudio, you might find it better than tangostudio
[03:06] <metbsd> dungeon_archl, speak that little language of yours.
[03:06] <swaroop> all my music is in the ipOd
[03:06] <swaroop> how can i transfer it to my ext3 fs on Ubuntu?
[03:07] <[THC]AcidRain> swaroop, gtkpod helped me
[03:07] <swaroop> ok will try
[03:07] <metbsd> hey what i do?
[03:07] <swaroop> my batt. is low :/
[03:07] <Flannel> stephenthemartyr: It's either a problem with your distro, or a problem with the guitarix PPA.  I think the only support you'll be able to get is from one of those two places.
[03:07] <stephenthemartyr> Flannel: its not in english
[03:07] <swaroop> need to shutdown
[03:07] <lqf> exit
[03:07] <[THC]AcidRain> swaroop, its actually a buggy piece of software still. but its came along way if you seen it at first
[03:07] <swaroop> thanks th0r
[03:07] <stephenthemartyr> ubuntu sucks ass
[03:07] <swaroop> & [THC]AcidRain
[03:07] <swaroop> :)
[03:07] <[THC]AcidRain> lol.
[03:07] <mc3brew> Heh
[03:08] <nevopross> i have a problem
[03:08] <[THC]AcidRain> i think ubuntu is great <3
[03:08] <urlin2u> yebyen, I think you are seeing a firmware screen mixed up not sure why we see gentoo, I would contact HP and find out what is going on or search the web I see different scenarios with diofferent computer manufacturers as far as keys to hit.
[03:08] <urlin2u> yekoms, I think you are seeing a firmware screen mixed up not sure why we see gentoo, I would contact HP and find out what is going on or search the web I see different scenarios with diofferent computer manufacturers as far as keys to hit.
[03:08] <dungeon_archl> 恩,这里说中文被鄙视了
[03:08] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, plz dont flood
[03:08] <urlin2u> !cn | dungeon_archl
[03:09] <yekoms> ALL linux/bsd do it.
[03:09] <yekoms> not just ubuntu
[03:09] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, I wasn't I was just making sure the user was getting the info relax man.
[03:09] <dungeon_archl> metabill: ok, you see now.
[03:09] <dungeon_archl> sorry
[03:09] <dungeon_archl> ...
[03:09] <Luke_007> I'm using ubuntu 10.04 now, so I can stay here?
[03:09] <[THC]AcidRain> Luke_007, yes
[03:10] <nevopross> Help meee
[03:10] <Luke_007> :)
[03:10] <[THC]AcidRain> Luke_007, regardless what version of ubuntu you have. you can pm me. ill always help ya
[03:10] <chuck_> urlin2u http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/image1lu.png/
[03:10] <Luke_007> 10.04
[03:10] <[THC]AcidRain> nevopross, ask your question. i cant help unless i know what is wrong
[03:10] <nevopross> i have a problem wiht toten + youtube
[03:10] <[THC]AcidRain> what the problem...
[03:11] <nevopross> Traductor
[03:11] <nevopross> Del: español
[03:11] <nevopross>
[03:11] <nevopross> Al: inglés
[03:11] <nevopross>
[03:11] <nevopross> Traducción de texto o de páginas web
[03:11] <FloodBot1> nevopross: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <nevopross> gstreamer totem
[03:11] <[THC]AcidRain> wow
[03:12] <chuck_> urlin2u, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/image1lu.png/
[03:12] <[THC]AcidRain> first if you have a spanish error. you should join a spanish channel
[03:12] <nevopross> GStreamer encountered a general error in the library support.
[03:12] <nevopross> ok, friend.
[03:12] <xangua> nevopross: already told you to try minitube & minitube ppa
[03:13] <urlin2u> chuck_, okay yes you have 4 and the last on the right the sda4 is not being recognized, probably a firmware partition, not really needed, so you can with gparted remove that one and shrink the sda3 leaving unallocated for ubuntu.
[03:13] <Luke_007> AcidRain, I appricate for that, :)
[03:13] <Aple> zykotick9_: Why run update before upgrade? Out of curiosity.
[03:14] <chuck_> urlin2u, how much space does ubuntu need? sda 3 is an empty recovery partion that has plenty of space
[03:14] <zykotick9_> Aple, it guarantees you get the most current version of everything in your upgrade run
[03:14] <yekoms> should i try ubuntu11 for this? i have been trying 10.10
[03:15] <urlin2u> chuck_, if that works we will put a partitioning setup in the unallocated for ubuntu. For size ubut u unpacks to about 3.5 gigs so think of what beyond that you need.
[03:15] <urlin2u> ubuntu*
[03:15] <SucKiT> Aple: you can always run update after the upgrade is done, no harm in repeating a command.
[03:16] <urlin2u> chuck_, if sda3 ias empty you can just delete it and we can put a exetended partition there, and ubuntu inside and another ntfs and you will have a shared ntfs that will show as D in W7.
[03:17] <Aple> It's weird. It says I have Python 2.7.1+, but 2.7.2 is the current release. Is the apt-get behind on this or am I doing it wrong? :)
[03:17] <rww> !latest
[03:18] <chuck_> urlin2u, yes it is empty, just waiting on ubuntu to boot again, got tired of waiting earlier and got the screen shot through a live usb of puppy that i had on hand
[03:18] <urlin2u> chuck_, I would be careful though the sda3 shows 3 gigs somethng is there.
[03:18] <Aple> Ah, I see. Figured it was such. Good to know for sure.
[03:18] <Aple> Thanks guys
[03:18] <kolix> Hi guys. I set up an Apache server and bought a domain name. Now how do i map my domain to my apache server?
[03:19] <kolix> i'm running ubuntu server 11.4
[03:19] <zHammeRz> kolix, you set up dns to point to your outside IP address
[03:20] <zykotick9_> urlin2u, chuck_ according to the requirements page, standard Ubuntu requires 5GB minimum hard drive space...
[03:20] <urlin2u> chuck_, lol that is puppy I missed that, so you know what the 3 gigs is in sda3?
[03:20] <zHammeRz> kolix, which should be done through your domain name you bought
[03:20] <kolix> zHammeRz, i installed a DNS thingy when i installed ubutnu server
[03:20] <kolix> do i confiugre it through that or just goto where i bought my domain and eneter my ip there?
[03:20] <zHammeRz> kolix, the latter.
[03:21] <urlin2u> zykotick9_, gee golee wally did you actually think I was going to advise something under 5 gigs.
[03:21] <kolix> zHammeRz, ok so my promary host name server is my external ip?
[03:22] <kolix> ( i did no configuration of DNS on my ubutnu server machine)
[03:22] <zykotick9_> urlin2u, sorry, was just trying to be helpful
[03:22] <urlin2u> zykotick9_, I like your work you have a lot of skills beyond me I'm sure but a trigger finger in this area.
[03:22] <zHammeRz> no, the primary host name server is the one handling your domain names dns.
[03:22] <urlin2u> :D
[03:23] <kolix> zHammeRz, so how di configure that?
[03:23] <ndxtg> is there anything wrong with ubuntu server? I can't reload the repo in synaptic
[03:24] <zHammeRz> when you set up your domain name you should have been given the option to create dns records.  you then create an A-Record in the hosting companies dns server that points to your external ip address
[03:25] <zHammeRz> and if you don't have those options you're going to have to call them for support.
[03:25] <kolix> zHammeRz, but I'm running my own servers
[03:26] <kolix> I have apache on my own machine
[03:26] <kolix> I'm just trying to point my domianname.com to point to my apache
[03:26] <kolix> do i need to configure anything on my end?
[03:26] <kolix> nameserver1.externalip.com?
[03:27] <achromat> kolix: log into whatever you use to manage your domain name.
[03:28] <achromat> then point the dns nameservers to whatever dynamicdns service you are using.
[03:28] <hranol> Hi
[03:28] <zHammeRz> which is what I said initially :)
[03:28] <hranol> Is ubuntu coming with openssh package / client or server by default ?
[03:28] <achromat> zHammeRz: Sorry, I just started reading.
[03:29] <achromat> Still haven't fixed this wireless problem.
[03:29] <zykotick9_> hranol, no.  Install openssh-server or openssh-client
[03:29] <zHammeRz> np, he's confusing ubuntu's dns server with something with his domain, at the moment one has nothing to do with the other :)
[03:29] <kolix> sorry guys
[03:29] <kolix> I'm a newb
[03:30] <kolix> BTW, THANKS A LOT for helping
[03:30] <kolix> achromat, slow down a bit
[03:30] <achromat> kolix: Too much caffeine.
[03:31] <kolix> hehe
[03:31] <kolix> how do i find out wich dynamicdns serverice I'm using for my server
[03:31] <kolix> ?
[03:31] <achromat> kolix: it is something you have to manually set up. So if you haven't done it, you don't have one.
[03:33] <kolix> achromat: ok. Whne i installed ubuntu server I also installed a DNS package. Now do i set up this dynamicdns on my end then?
[03:33] <achromat> Yes.
[03:33] <kolix> ok awesome
[03:33] <kolix> so how do i do this then?>
[03:33] <achromat> kolix: do you know what the name of the service is?
[03:34] <kolix> ...no
[03:34] <chuck_> urlin2u sorry got distracted looking
[03:35] <chuck_> urlin2u, sorry got distracted trying to find out what it was
[03:35] <blabblah> hi all, i just upgraded to ubuntu 10.10 from 10.04...everything finished, and it seemed that there were no errors
[03:35] <blabblah> however, on restarting.../usr/bin/bash was gone
[03:35] <urlin2u> chuck_, no problem so you know what is the sda3, it shows 3 gigs in gparted?
[03:35] <blabblah> and i am only given a commandline login
[03:35] <blabblah> what can/should i do to fix this?
[03:35] <kolix> achromat: how do i find out what the name of the service is?
[03:36] <achromat> kolix: I'm going to link you to a guide that should walk you through it. If you have more questions feel free to ask. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[03:36] <chuck_> urlin2u, no i am not sure, i guess it would be safest to just shrink it rather than deleting it
[03:36] <kolix> achromat: thank you man
[03:36] <urlin2u> blabblah, do you have an nvidio card
[03:36] <blabblah> this is a parallels VM
[03:36] <blabblah> on an intel mac
[03:36] <blabblah> i mounted the drive and verified that /usr/bin/bash is indeed missing
[03:37] <blabblah> so something clearly went wrong during the upgrade
[03:37] <urlin2u> chuck_, yeah it is hidden you can mess with that later or open the hidden folders option.
[03:38] <urlin2u> chuck_, now we are assuming that the sda4 can just be removed in order to get a linux partion in the instaed.
[03:38] <urlin2u> there instead*
[03:38] <kolix> ahh ok.
[03:38] <chuck_> urlin2u, i have see hidden folders selected and windows shows nothing there
[03:39] <kolix> so i just need to submit my static IP and domainame to one of these registrats and then they will give me the nameservers?
[03:39] <silverarrow> anyone good with update manager? I have made a mess with repositories
[03:39] <Jokn> kolix: whose hosting the dns zone file for your domain?
[03:39] <urlin2u> chuck_, hmm, well you understand what I'm saying thogh about a partition needs to be removed to get the Ubuntu partitions set up right?
[03:39] <i1920x1080> Anybody use coLinux on Windows 7?
[03:39] <urlin2u> though*
[03:40] <kolix> onednr
[03:40] <kolix> i bouhgt the domain off onednr
[03:40] <laiboo> is smw here ?
[03:40] <warning123> zykotick9_, 1 question about screen , i accidently deteached server and i lost it, how to get back to that console window now lol
[03:40] <silverarrow> how do you clean up update manager :-/
[03:40] <Richashi> laiboo,are you still working with UBNT?
[03:40] <chuck_> urlin2u, yes i understand that, i will be trying that shortly, right now i am trying recreating my live usb cause i wouldn't boot anymore off the one i had
[03:40] <Jokn> kolix: do they offer dns hosting? You have to set up a zone file with a dns host and put your records there.
[03:40] <smw> laiboo, you wanted me?
[03:41] <Jokn> kolix: if you're wanting to setup an A record then do it with your dns host.
[03:41] <zykotick9_> warning123, use "screen -ls" and take just the number beside the right session on put in in "screen -r ####" type thing
[03:41] <smw> laiboo, are you sure you got the right person?
[03:41] <kolix> Jokn: so besides the actual purchase of the domain name i have to set up a dns host too?
[03:41] <kolix> **purchase
[03:41] <warning123> yes but i accidently detached it and its not available now on the screen -ls = list
[03:41] <laiboo> smw, sorry
[03:41] <urlin2u> chuck_, cool you probably got grub installed to the thumb, when you boot a thumb sometimes it becomes sda, which the Ubuntu will default to with the grub bootloader install.
[03:42] <Jokn> kolix: you may not have to purchase it, depends on the registrar.  Also if you have webhosting, a lot of hosts will provide DNS hosting.
[03:42] <zykotick9_> warning123, they you didn't "detach" you "closed" which is different
[03:42] <kolix> no rented servers. I'm running apache on my machine
[03:42] <zykotick9_> warning123, use ctrl+alt+d to detach
[03:42] <warning123> control A+ D = detach
[03:42] <laiboo> smw,i'm talking with my friend, he got the same name with you
[03:42] <zykotick9_> warning123, sorry wrong!
[03:43] <zykotick9_> warning123, ctrl+a+d
[03:43] <smw> laiboo, not on freenode he doesn't :-)
[03:43] <Jokn> kolix: check if onednr has dns hosting
[03:43] <warning123> zykotick9_, how is my server running even though its not in the screen -ls?
[03:43] <zykotick9_> warning123, you didn't start it from inside or using screen would be my guess
[03:43] <o0splitpaw0o> !webmin
[03:43] <Jokn> kolix: or run your own DNS server, bind.  I'd recommend using the service you have though if its free.
[03:44] <laiboo> smw, oh ,i see
[03:44] <urlin2u> chuck_, it sounds like your hip to open source do you know what a extended, and logical partitions are?
[03:45] <chuck_> urlin2u, nope, honestly just started looking into this stuff a few days ago, got interested cause of android and then decided it might help revive a ancient laptop i had, kinda snowballed from there
[03:47] <urlin2u> chuck_, cool I didn't want to waste your time if not needed,  will be on so just let me know when your ready to put the Ubuntu partitions in, we will start with a extended using gparted, when you have shrunk the sda3 and removed the sda4.,
[03:47] <urlin2u> I
[03:48] <chuck_> irlin2u, i will take any knowledge you can lay on me, i am fairly convinced that open source is the way to go, which means i need to learn this stuff
[03:48] <urlin2u> chuck_, I would start with at least 10 gigs unallocated for ubuntu but go for 20 gigs I think you will use it once you hip to it
[03:48] <urlin2u> you're
[03:49] <kolix> Jokn, I'm using onednr.com...I've tried calling them but noone picked up...
[03:49] <kolix> i don't know if they do dns hosting or not
[03:49] <chuck_> urlin2u, ok finally back into ubuntu
[03:50] <urlin2u> chuck_, cool just ask when needed.
[03:50] <Jokn> kolix: look in the user control panel, see if you can find anything for DNS hosting otherwise host your own bind server.
[03:50] <Jokn> kolix: and then you'll go in and point the domain to your server as the name server
[03:52] <morth> anyone here do encryption of some sort? i have some documents i need to put on my work computer and i dont want my assistant snooping through my files.
[03:52] <morth> im just curious on what i should do to keep my files safe from people i don't want seeing.
[03:53] <chuck_> urlin2u, so you think 20 gigs unallocated is enough? any advantage to using more?  I have about 110gb i can play with without touching the windows partition
[03:53] <morth> and don't say use USB drive, because that just not enough.
[03:53] <urlin2u> chuck_, the more the merrier really use as much as you like. ;D
[03:54] <zHammeRz> morth, did you tell ubuntu to encrypt your home drive upon installation?
[03:54] <urlin2u> chuck_, it is hard to say what any newer user might want.
[03:54] <morth> zHammeRz: i believe so, - this meaning i cannot access my Ubuntu folder from my windows folder right? - because if so then yes.
[03:55] <zHammeRz> no, just test it yourself.  Make another user account, login too it, and see if you can access your home folder
[03:55] <urlin2u> chuck_, also notice if gparted s showing the hd as sda still.
[03:55] <kolix> ok
[03:55] <kolix> thse are my options
[03:55] <chuck_> urlin2u, ok i now have about 90 gigs unallocated, do i need to do anything with that, or should i just try to install again?
[03:55] <kolix> tinypic.com/r/33ljubr/7
[03:55] <urlin2u> chuck_, is the sda4 gone
[03:56] <chuck_> urlin2u, shows partitions as sba1, sba2, sba3, and unallocated
[03:56] <kolix> http://tinypic.com/r/33ljubr/7
[03:56] <chuck_> sda rather
[03:56] <morth> zHammeRz: that's not all though, i want to make 100% sure my word document is safe, even if someone had access to my files etc.
[03:56] <zHammeRz> they would have to have access to your account
[03:56] <[THC]AcidRain> morth, change permissions
[03:56] <urlin2u> chuck_, cool I personally format ahead of time only about 5 mins extra work and may be helpful for you to know.
[03:56] <elslunko> anyone here using rapid photo downloader with 11.10? Have a weird issue going on.
[03:57] <chuck_> urlin2u, no worries, how should i format it?
[03:57] <Jokn> kolix: that looks like they're updating the name servers only
[03:58] <elslunko> I have an application installed, but when I try to run it via terminal it says it's not installed. Never had this issue before. On 11.10.
[03:58] <kolix> ok
[03:58] <urlin2u> chuck_, so in gparted you can put a extended partion in the unallocated right click the unallocated then new then extended at create as.
[03:58] <kolix> Jokn, i guess i'll wait for their return call and ask them
[03:58] <kolix> Jokn, thanks again for helping
[03:58] <urlin2u> chuck_, the hit the run green arrow.
[03:59] <urlin2u> then*
[03:59] <chuck_> urlin2u, ok now it is showing an 88 gig extended partion and right below that unallocated exactly the same size
[03:59] <morth> zHammeRz: [THC]AcidRain , i have to make sure i secure it more than just changing the permission i want to know for 100% if someone broke into my house, computer ETC that i can rely on a encription for my documents -Word documents/pdfs, i understand nothing is 100% safe but having that would increase the security.
[03:59] <ramu> how can i update package information in offline pc
[04:00] <ramu>  how can i update package information in offline pc
[04:00] <urlin2u> chuck_, tha is normal, now right click the partition and make a ext4 with space after it equal to your ram amount. that space is for a swap partiton
[04:00] <ramu>  how can i update package information in offline pc
[04:00] <rww> !repeat | ramu
[04:01] <Jokn> kolix: no problem.  As a last resort look into bind server.  I'd recommend finding somebody to host your DNS until you're more familiar with DNS though.
[04:02] <chuck_> urlin2u, ok, now have a swap partition
[04:02] <urlin2u> chuck_, does that make sense the space after the ext4 for the swap partition is inside the extended.
[04:02] <urlin2u> chuck_, did you make a ext4 then a swap after
[04:03] <chuck_> urlin2u, yes, makes sense, i have a 1 gig swap partion and 87 gig unallocated inside the extended
[04:03] <chuck_> urlin2u, the swap partition i made is ext4, and at the end of the extended
[04:04] <urlin2u> chuck_, the swap is just for when the ram is gotten to high you need a ext4 for the ubuntu install as well.
[04:04] <matte> hello
[04:04] <chuck_> urlin2u, what should i format the rest of the unallocated as?
[04:04] <urlin2u> chuck_, ext4 and swap are different they can't be the same
[04:05] <seanwalker> hello?
[04:05] <matte> i am new to ubuntu
[04:05] <urlin2u> chuck_, so at the beginning of the extended lets call it that noe it is a 1 gig swap.
[04:05] <urlin2u> now
[04:05] <matte> i wanted to set my default irc program but i don't know the path for it, anyone know?
[04:06] <seanwalker> i need help installing ubuntu on mac osx lion using a USB disk...
[04:07] <chuck_> urlin2u, ok guess i mis understood you, ok, now my extended has a 1 gig swap partition at the from the the rest is formatted as ext4, is that right?
[04:07] <melhuishj> @matte Ummmm, I though all programs were stored in /usr/bin/, but I haven't messed with that in a while
[04:07] <matte> okie let me take a look
[04:08] <urlin2u> chuck_, that will work make sur you run it with the green check and take a screen shot and imagebin to to be on the safe side
[04:10] <urlin2u> chuck_, here is the imagebin again for your convenience.  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[04:10] <chuck_> urlin2u, yep, i have ran the operations, uploading the screenshot now
[04:10] <matte> tyvm worked like a charm now
[04:10] <urlin2u> chuck_, cool
[04:11] <matte> my next question is about empathy program
[04:11] <melhuishj> Shoot
[04:12] <matte> it lacks a lil console so you don't really know what is going on, it says network error when i try to use it
[04:12] <chuck_> urlin2u, http://imageshack,us/photo/my-images/189/screenshotte.png/
[04:12] <matte> can it simply be cause i need a jabber account or?
[04:13] <chuck_> urlin2u, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/screenshotte.png/
[04:13] <melhuishj> I wish I could help...but I'm not really familiar with it other than using it to log into IRC.  What kind of console do you mean?
[04:14] <urlin2u> chuck_, that is not working did you hit the submit buton
[04:14] <matte> ah okay, it's like a letter on your taskbar
[04:14] <chuck_> urlin2u, use the second link i posted
[04:14] <urlin2u> chuck_, cool hold on.
[04:15] <melhuishj> Oh, like a button up at the top?
[04:15] <matte> yeah beside the volume
[04:15] <matte> i think it's an applet
[04:16] <urlin2u> chuck_, cool looks good so you can hit install, at the where you want it installed hit something else and when there hold and let me know when there.
[04:17] <matte> it's an instant msg application for gnome called Empathy
[04:17] <melhuishj> Yeah, pardom my lack of technical terms. Hmmm...is it supposed to run when you start empathy?
[04:17] <urlin2u> chuck_, at the something else area we will confirm the grub bootloader destination and set up the install to sda6
[04:18] <matte> i just wonder about the program cause i pressed the show nearby
[04:18] <matte> and it only loads and nothing
[04:18] <matte> i think it's a great idea but i am very new to it
[04:19] <chuck_> urlin2u, it isn't giving me the option of where to install like it did before, that is really weir
[04:19] <urlin2u> chuck_, it is about 3 gui's in to the process.
[04:19] <matte> do i need a jabber account to use Empathy?
[04:19] <urlin2u> chuck_, it is called something else.
[04:20] <melhuishj> Yeah, I noticed that option, I don't really know what it is or how it works though.  So, I just installed it on my Ubuntu machine and no applet.  No, I don't have one and I'm using it to chat with you right now
[04:20] <urlin2u> chuck_, choices are alongside , whole disc..etc and something esle
[04:20] <chuck_> urlin2u, yeah i know what screen you're talking about i just thought it was at the beginning, ok, let me try this again, with a little more patience on my part
[04:21] <urlin2u> chuck_, cool
[04:21] <matte> np melhuishj it was very nice of you to try to help
[04:22] <urlin2u> chuck_, just click and read each gui, carefully.
[04:22] <chuck_> yep, i am just waiting on it now, it says ubiquity just crashed, is that anything to worry about?
[04:24] <urlin2u> chuck_, you installing natty or oneiric?
[04:24] <chuck_> urlin2u, natty
[04:24] <urlin2u> chuck_, it happens should not be a problem it usuall restrts.
[04:24] <urlin2u> usually restarts
[04:25] <bao_> hello every
[04:26] <urlin2u> chuck_, getting a little water brb
[04:26] <morth> urlin2u: keep hydrated for us. :)
[04:27] <p01> hey room. i've got a question about evolution and indicator-applet.
[04:27] <chuck_> urlin2u, no worries, this thing ain't the fastest machine around
[04:27] <melhuishj> So, I have a bit of an issue with sudo: if I type sudo /something/something/something option it says /something/something/something isn't a command
[04:28] <urlin2u> chuck_, yeah one gig will run clunky at times, with ubuntu now.
[04:28] <urlin2u> chuck_, that can be tweaked though.
[04:29] <chuck_> urlin2u, yeah i am probably gonna up it to 2 soon, ram is so cheap these days,
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> ive heard ram prices are supposed to drop here soon...
[04:29] <morth> chuck_: agreed, just saw some DDR3 going for $15/gig
[04:29] <Luke_007> ram is cheap
[04:30] <elbeto> vlc wont play movies, im running ubuntu studio 11.04, ?
[04:30] <MK`> I need help: How do I look at all the recent events/commands run in the terminal I am running on?
[04:30] <chuck_> morth, yeah fry's near my house wants $21 for a 2 gig stick of ddr3, at that price why not?
[04:30] <p01> is it okay that evolution closes instead of hiding in indicator-applet? i mean, how do i get it work in background and check my messages every, say, 10 minutes?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> elbeto:  run it from a terminal. look for error messages
[04:31] <morth> chuck_: agreed i've been wanting to upgrade my motherboard ram is so damn cheap its work upgrading to DDR3 lol
[04:32] <eric___> quit
[04:32] <awise12> MK`: type history
[04:32] <p01> because i can't get the point of indicator-applet, if it works just like folded panel with sortcuts.
[04:32] <morth> chuck_: 8gb of DDR3-1333 is only 34.99 heh
[04:32] <Atharva> Does Ubuntu-studio 11.04 Has Unity as default enviornment ?
[04:32] <elbeto> thanks, ill try
[04:32] <chuck_> urlin2u, ok i am at the screen where i can pick something else
[04:33] <MK`> Oh, useful. Doesn't have the information I need, however... I was typing in my office suite when I was suddenly logged out. The screen went to the terminal and threw me back into the login screen.
[04:33] <chuck_> morth, yeah, but this is on a little netbook, max of 2 gigs according to asus
[04:33] <elbeto> nope, gnome 2, thank god
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> p01:  huh? programs can have special indicator icons in that area to give feedback..   theres a push to remove the old 'systray' type thing and have ONLY indicator-applets in that area now. a lot of the old 'programs' do not havce their icons appear there due to how its configured.
[04:33] <urlin2u> choose that and then look at the dropdown below th3 partitions and make sure it is pointed at sda
[04:33] <MK`> As if I had hit the magic sysreq key, but I most assuredly did not. What else can cause that?
[04:33] <morth> chuck_: bummer
[04:33] <urlin2u> the*
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> I cant even find the magic sysreq key on this keyboard. :)
[04:33] <awise12> !enter | MK`
[04:34] <MK`> Sorry, stream of thought.
[04:34] <chuck_> urlin2u, i has /dev/sda  chosen
[04:34] <urlin2u> Dr_Willis, and you call yourself a dr
[04:34] <urlin2u> chuck_, cool now click the sda6 the change
[04:34] <urlin2u> then
[04:34] <p01> Dr_Willis, okay, but Evolution uses indicator-applet by default, right?
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> urlin2u:  its a 'condensed' layout keyboard new from logitech. - theres no key lavbled sysreq anywhere.
[04:34] <chuck_> morth, eh what can you expect, it weighs 2.5 lbs and cost $199 on sale
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> p01:  i dont use evolution. so no idea. I imagine it would.
[04:35] <chuck_> urlin2u, ok selected sda6
[04:35] <p01> what a crap.
[04:35] <urlin2u> chuck_, when you see the nnext screen the make it ext4 click format and in mount choose ? and then close that gui.
[04:36] <urlin2u> mount?
[04:36] <urlin2u> mount / chuck_
[04:36] <urlin2u> sorry chuck_
[04:36] <morth> chuck_: sweet, i could use a laptop heh
[04:37] <urlin2u> chuck_,  so ext4 format and in mount / if that makes sense .
[04:37] <chuck_> urlin2u, so i have to click format on the ext4?
[04:38] <urlin2u> chuck_,yeah I know it seems counter intuitive.
[04:38] <urlin2u> chuck_, and the / in mount
[04:39] <wh1zz0> What's the difference btw installing installing ssh and installing openssh-server ?
[04:39] <chuck_> urlin2u, so i have the ext4 selected, for use as i selected "ext4 journaling file system" i checked "format the partition", and under mount point selected "/"  good?
[04:39] <rww> wh1zz0: ssh installs openssh-client too if it isn't already installed
[04:40] <urlin2u> chuck_, that is it close that gui and hit continue or install what ever it is a fwe more gui's to set a user name apassword you are set. :D
[04:40] <chuck_> morth, it is actually a pretty sweet little netbook, good battery life and the new dual core atom n550 processor
[04:40] <wh1zz0> thanks rww .. So this means i'd be better of doing sudo apt-get install ssh .. rather than sudo apt-get install openssh-sever
[04:40] <wh1zz0> right?
[04:40] <chuck_> morth, it is actually a pretty sweet little netbook, good battery life and the new dual core atom n550 processor
[04:40] <rww> wh1zz0: sure, though I doubt it'll make any difference
[04:40] <chuck_> urlin2u, thanks so much for all your help
[04:41] <wh1zz0> rww: Okie thanks
[04:41] <urlin2u> chuck_, your welcome the first time is daunting, and knowing the custom install, goes a long ways.
[04:42] <chuck_> urlin2u, yeah, i wouldn't have figured any of that out on my own, the community is one thing i really like about open source
[04:43] <urlin2u> chuck_, yeah I learned it all in the trenches, with the help of others, and wiping the OS enough times to not mention the numbers.
[04:44] <chuck_> urlin2u, haha, even though i have all my data backed up i am still hoping to avoid wiping anything, but they say "good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment"
[04:45] <urlin2u> chuck_, yeah good luck and stop by when needed. :D
[04:45] <mneptok> chuck_: keep that in mind during your dating career
[04:46] <chuck_> mneptok, i have shown enough so much bad judgment in my dating life, I oughta be some kinda genius by now
[04:47] <chuck_> cheers guys, ya'll rock!
[04:47] <oberststen> Hi! I accidentaly deleted /usr/bin/locale and I can't get it back, I tried purging and installing "locales" but I can't get the /usr/bin/locale again
[04:49] <rww> oberststen: try libc-bin instead
[04:49] <rww> reinstalling, that is
[04:49] <nomego> is problems with flash on 64 bit oneiric a known issue?
[04:49] <rww> oberststen: oh, and use sudo apt-get --reinstall install libc-bin instead.
[04:49] <rww> nomego: ask #ubuntu+1
[04:50] <nomego> rww, thanks
[04:50] <oberststen> rww: amazing, it works again :) thanks
[04:51] <oberststen> and now I'm back to my original problem, I'm getting this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/682344/
[04:51] <oberststen> it appeared today after doing an upgrade
[04:52] <wh1zz0> rww: Looks like ssh is already installed by default on natty which I am on
[04:52] <rww> wh1zz0: the package 'ssh' is not installed by default. 'openssh-client' is.
[04:53] <rww> oberststen: there's a command for that. sudo locale-gen, I think
[04:53] <oberststen> rww: yeah, already tried it, still getting the same
[04:53] <rww> oberststen: does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" do anything on ubuntu?
[04:54] <illmortal> Hey guys... trying to jailbreak my HP Touchpad using ubuntu, I downloaded a java application which communicates with my touchpad, the java application is called, "WebOSQuickInstall-4.2.3.jar" and when I double click it, it is giving me an error that it is blocked
[04:55] <oberststen> rww: yes, after using locale-gen and trying that i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/682348/
[04:55] <wh1zz0> rww: ohhh I see.. So that's the difference.. Okie cool.. But something that kinda looks strange is this, for instance.. say my box which im chatting from is ubuntubox, when I do ssh [IP] isn't it supposed to first of all ask me for the username? But rather what I see is wh1zz0@IP's password:
[04:55] <MK`> For anyone interested, I found the source of my crash: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/774978
[04:56] <rww> wh1zz0: ssh defaults to your current username. use ssh username@IP if you don't want it to do that
[04:56] <wh1zz0> rww: Like it's attaching my current username to the remote IP
[04:56] <wh1zz0> rww: Thanks
[04:56] <rww> oberststen: hrm, no idea. there's usually a simple fix with locale errors, but I don't know what that one is :\
[04:57] <oberststen> rww: i'll try to find something, btw, using the command "locale -a" i get two times "en_US" is that normal?
[04:57] <warning123> zykotick9_, thanks a bunch , it was using a diffrent name weird , now i figured it out lol
[04:57] <rww> oberststen: mine doesn't have that, could be another symptom
[04:58] <rww> oberststen: (I have C, en_US.utf8, and POSIX)
[04:58] <oberststen> i get C, en_GB, en_GB.utf8, en_us, en_us.utf8, en_us and posix, is there any way i coudl reset it? i just want en_us.utf8 btw
[04:58] <zykotick9_> warning123, glad to help - glad you figured it out :)
[04:59] <rww> oberststen: I'm on Debian, and that dpkg-reconfigure command gives me the option to do so. Dunno how Ubuntu does it :\
[05:00] <terr_> gawd the installer options are confusing.  Can someone help me sort this out?  I do have a catch 22 to get around.  I can't access the USB on my debian machine.  I probably can from my openbsd server but I likely don't have a browser installed on it.  I have a mac available but the target machine is a PC.  There is no CD or DVD on the PC.
[05:00] <oberststen> sadly, no, or any way i could delete some locales?
[05:00] <terr_> I see version 10.04 and I think the laterst is 10.10.  Correct?
[05:00] <edbian> terr_: 11.04 is the latest
[05:00] <edbian> terr_: but 10.04 is the latest LTS
[05:02] <terr_> edbian: not sure what LTS means.
[05:02] <zykotick9_> terr_, Long Term Support
[05:03] <terr_> ah
[05:03] <edbian> terr_: Long term support.  It means this release will receive updates for a long time.
[05:03] <edbian> terr_: A long time is 3 - 5 years (I think)
[05:03] <illmortal> anyone know how to get a .jar file to open? keep getting an error that it's blocked from executing.
[05:03] <terr_> I shuold be able to run with 10.10.  Why wouldn't i?
[05:03] <edbian> illmortal: It's just a .zip I believe
[05:03] <edbian> illmortal: chmod +x /path/to/file.jar   to make it executable (not sure if that's meaningful on a .jar)
[05:04] <edbian> illmortal: You allow any file to be executable with chmod +x, but that doesn't means executing the file will do anything.
[05:04] <illmortal> i see.. ya apparently it's just a java app (GUI) that allows you to view the file system of WebOS on the HP Touchpad
[05:05] <edbian> illmortal: I'm jealous of your touchpad :)
[05:05] <edbian> illmortal: well try chmod +x
[05:05] <illmortal> haha.. ok will do, thank you for your assistance :D
[05:06] <edbian> illmortal: also, this: http://www.petefreitag.com/item/24.cfm
[05:07] <terr_> I'm going to use k3b to create a bootable CD.  I'd like 10.10 KDE version for 32 bit PC (amd processor) - where do I find it?
[05:08] <oberststen> rww: i found the solution here: http://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wiki/Perl_warning_Setting_locale_failed_unter_Debian but after doing the steps at the bottom it worked, however, closing the connection (it's a server through ssh) when i go on again, it doesn't work again, i dea?
[05:08] <zykotick9_> illmortal, try "java -jar /path/to/file.jar"
[05:09] <illmortal> ya just caught that
[05:09] <mukti> Has anyone installed the HDAPS daemon (HDD fall/shock protection) on a Thinkpad?
[05:09] <illmortal> woooot!
[05:10] <illmortal> that did the trick, zykotick9_
[05:10] <illmortal> thanks a lot guys! was dreading thinking of using windows to jailbreak my touchpad lol
[05:10] <edbian> illmortal: :)
[05:11] <terr_> can someone tell me where to find the KDE live CD version 10.10 for an AMD PC?  I see 10.10 in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto but everywhere else I see onlu 10.04 and no reference to KDE
[05:12] <mukti> Has anyone installed the HDAPS daemon (HDD fall/shock protection) on a Thinkpad?
[05:12] <edbian> terr_: Any particular reason you want 10.10  ?
[05:14] <rww> terr_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/10.10/
[05:14] <rww> terr_: you probably want kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso on that page
[05:15] <edbian> terr_: Don't be fooled by the AMD64 and Intel X86 names (they're a little misleading)
[05:18] <dokken> hi
[05:18] <edbian> dokken: hello
[05:18] <dokken> hi
[05:18] <dokken> what up
[05:19] <edbian> dokken: nothing...
[05:19] <dokken> same here
 : Your question ?
[05:19] <dokken> i am new
[05:19] <edbian> ha
[05:19] <edbian> dokken: This is ubuntu support.  You ask us questions about how to use Ubuntu
[05:20] <dokken> yea i am new
[05:20] <terr_> edbian: far as I know its a 32 bit AMD.  COuld be a 64 however!  dual processor chip
[05:21] <edbian> terr_: dual core does not guarantee 64bit although it implies it.
[05:21] <edbian> terr_: How much ram you got?
[05:21] <dokken> hello
[05:22] <terr_> edbian: I don't know.  I've never turned it on.  Probably lots.
[05:23] <edbian> terr_: haha, 'lots'   :)  Well if it's 4Gb or more than you probably have a 64bit processor and you want 64 bit Ubuntu
[05:23] <terr_> edbian: this stupoid firefox browser will NOT download anything.
[05:23] <edbian> terr_: firefox is not stupid
[05:23] <mukti> Has anyone installed the HDAPS daemon (HDD fall/shock protection) on a Thinkpad?
[05:23] <terr_> edbian: I'll dl the 32 bit tonight just to get this going.
[05:24] <edbian> terr_: sounds great :)
[05:24] <KrnlPanic> can someone tell me why fdisk -l returns nothing?
[05:24] <zykotick9_> KrnlPanic, "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:24] <asdjaputra> KrnlPanic, sudo fdisk -l
[05:25]  * edbian joins in
[05:25] <KrnlPanic> zykotick9_, asdjaputra : Thank you
[05:25] <edbian> sudo fdisk -l KrnlPanic
[05:25] <terr_> edbian: I have to d/l with wget!
[05:25] <asdjaputra> terr_, what's wrong with wget?
[05:25] <edbian> terr_: wget is great :)
[05:26] <terr_> edbian: its just this browser refuses to d/l anything.
[05:26] <asdjaputra> terr_, why?
[05:26] <edbian> terr_: Strange.  Look at firefox -> downloads (or in your downloads folder)
[05:26] <terr_> asdjaputra: dunno.  It use to work a few years ago.  somehow it quit
[05:26] <asdjaputra> few years? o.O
[05:27] <edbian> terr_: A few years ago?  What firefox 2 ?
[05:27] <AlessonZaire> Wget is great, incredible, amazing and freaking awesome XD
[05:27] <asdjaputra> edbian, it was called mozilla back then
[05:27] <edbian> asdjaputra: firebird
[05:27] <terr_> Sep  4 20:14:11 io kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0  why would i get this?
[05:27] <q234> irc://irc.governmentsecurity.org/
[05:27] <asdjaputra> edbian, huh?
[05:27] <edbian> asdjaputra: Back in the day it was called firebird
[05:28] <asdjaputra> edbian, but it changes because of copyright issues, right?
[05:28] <edbian> asdjaputra: I don't know
[05:28] <zykotick9_> terr_, do you even have a floppy drive?  if not, that's probably why you get that error
[05:28] <terr_> zykotick9_: have the drive.  No floppy in it.  Havn't used it for years
[05:28] <edbian> terr_: perhaps turn the drive off completely in bios?
[05:28] <asdjaputra> terr_, what, are you going to install ubuntu in floppy?
[05:29] <asdjaputra> :D cool
[05:29] <terr_> the machine I need to install to has no fdd and no CD.  Its only got a USB and I can't access the USB from this debian desktop
[05:29] <terr_> asdjaputra: I have considered this.
[05:29] <asdjaputra> terr_, fdd=floppy disk drive?
[05:29] <terr_> asdjaputra: I have a number of 200 mHz PI's and I cna install the IDE 160 GB into one of them and do the install.
[05:30] <edbian> asdjaputra: yes
[05:30] <asdjaputra> !!!
[05:30] <edbian> 200Mhz! :D
[05:30] <terr_> asdjaputra: they have FDD's.  ya.  floppies.  I even have 5 1/43!
[05:30] <terr_> asdjaputra: they have FDD's.  ya.  floppies.    I suggest using the alternate installer
[05:31] <terr_> edbian: installer can be and IMHO should be text based.
[05:31] <asdjaputra> i was 3 years old when these PII came in
[05:31] <terr_> edbian: I want to check out a USB DVD burner.
[05:31] <asdjaputra> Terabyte, unetbootin?
[05:32] <asdjaputra> Terabyte, sorry tab-completed
[05:32] <terr_> asdjaputra: well I have machines older than that.  I just tossed a 486!
[05:32] <asdjaputra> gah
[05:32] <terr_> asdjaputra: use to run 36 GB's and up on them.
[05:32] <Kaerey> Anyone here familiar with ubuntu on a netbook?
[05:32] <KrnlPanic> Still have my 486dx66 in the basement..  :) Can't let that rascal go
[05:33] <asdjaputra> Pentium 4 is the latest on my computer
[05:33] <asdjaputra> by latest i meant LATEst
[05:33] <terr_> asdjaputra: this one is a PIII tualtin 1.3 gHz core cpu on a 1998 MB.
[05:33] <asdjaputra> terr_, no please
[05:33] <asdjaputra> terr_, stoppp i can't handle it
[05:34] <asdjaputra> the HORROR
[05:34] <terr_> asdjaputra: still loaded with SCSI stuff like a DLT7000, optical drives... lots of old toys including exabytes
[05:34] <asdjaputra> ahhh
[05:34] <asdjaputra> ubuntu won't run in old computers
[05:34] <KrnlPanic> How do you get your proc info in term? Isn't it something like cat /something/proc?
[05:34] <terr_> asdjaputra: still does the job except I need some new featuers.  I've got another machine anyways.
[05:34] <asdjaputra> even if it does, it'll run very slowly
[05:35] <asdjaputra> hardware specs are increasing in every release
[05:35] <terr_> asdjaputra: this is going to take an hour.  I'm going to go watch a movie
[05:35] <asdjaputra> go ahead
[05:38] <do0> hello guys
[05:38] <kuzushi> I've got BIND and DHCP setup, and I was hoping someone might know how I could capture all HTTP requests and redirect them to another server of my choice (similar to a login process at a hot-spot)
[05:38] <arabica> kuzushi: squid can probably do that
[05:38] <do0> Is there any tools/software like dreamwaver web developing please?
[05:39] <mukti> Has anyone installed the HDAPS daemon (HDD fall/shock protection) on a Thinkpad?
[05:39] <arabica> do0: try aptitude search wysiwyg
[05:40] <kuzushi> I was wondering if there was a way to setup a common record type that'd just match everything
[05:40] <kuzushi> <- not a networking guy
[05:40] <arabica> it doesn't work that way
[05:40] <arabica> DNS happens before the http request
[05:40] <arabica> if you want to redirect at the DNS level, it has nothing to do with HTTP
[05:40] <kuzushi> right, so can I say on any request return <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:41] <arabica> you can say on any DNS resoltuion, resolve to <IP_ADDRESS>, but you cannot specify the protocol.
[05:41] <kuzushi> okay
[05:41] <arabica> it's only for mapping names to ips, thats it
[05:41] <kuzushi> arabica, and what would a common record type like that look like?
[05:41] <arabica> I don't know, I've never configured bind.
[05:41] <kuzushi> *    IN   A   <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:41] <arabica> there's a chan for it, though.
[05:42] <kuzushi> okay, I will check there.
[05:42] <morth> offtopic but - has anyone gone to school for Computer Systems Technician - Networking? please /msg me
[05:42] <pr0t0c0n> whois TH4i
[05:43] <kuzushi> arabica, ha, it's *.
[05:43] <do0> Am i  connected?
[05:43] <rww> do0: yes
[05:43] <morth> do0: aye.
[05:43] <cbarnardo> Does anyone know how to fix this? Compiling /usr/local/lib/python2.7/zipfile.py ... make: *** [libinstall] Error 1. Trying to build python 2.7.2 on natty. Please help I beg you.
[05:44] <cbarnardo> I asked in #python but they said to come here
[05:44] <cbarnardo> I don't understand how its a distro probelm but w/e
[05:44] <pr0t0c0n> huh ubuntu seems to be running slow on this old gateway
[05:44] <pr0t0c0n> probibly becuase the hardware in 9 years older than god
[05:46] <Aple> What's a good Java install for loading apps on the web?
[05:47] <tbocs> Aple, you mean java applets?
[05:47] <Aple> I'm not sure really, I'm trying to use screenr.com
[05:48] <Aple> It says "Detecting Java > You don't have it"
[05:48] <Aple> Looked up Java to dl but there are a few options: Sun, Open, Teabag
[05:48] <arabica> lol, teabag
[05:48] <arabica> icedtea you mean
[05:48] <Aple> Yeah that one
[05:48] <arabica> get it
[05:48] <arabica> icedtea
[05:48] <tbocs> !java
[05:49] <tbocs> hmmm ... I have installed java, but it doesn't work.
[05:49] <tbocs> i tested it before ...
[05:49] <arabica> you need the icedtea plugin
[05:49] <tbocs> yea I think we have to find some plugin
[05:49] <awise12> !info iron
[05:49] <ricardo> hola?
[05:49] <ricardo> alguien habla espanol?
[05:49] <awise12> !es
[05:50] <do0> rww, morth really? which one?
[05:50] <tbocs> Aple, yea icedtea browser plugin
[05:50] <ricardo> thanks :)
[05:50] <rww> do0: which one what?
[05:50] <MasterOfDisaster> tbocs, Aple, arabica: why not sun-java6-plugin? works fine here...
[05:50] <tbocs> oh yea it works, Aple
[05:50] <ricardo> Hi, any1 willing to help me compiling dri2proto??
[05:51] <tbocs> MasterOfDisaster, no it doesn't work.
[05:51] <arabica> MasterOfDisaster: there was no reason in my suggesting icedtea over the other
[05:51] <Aple> Ok, so IcedTea? MasterOfDisaster says sun works fine
[05:51] <tbocs> Aple, i repeat, icedtea plugin works
[05:51] <Aple> I just installed
[05:51] <do0> rww, I mean dreamwaver like softer for ubuntu?
[05:51] <MasterOfDisaster> Aple: if it works, stick with it.
[05:52] <rww> do0: no idea, I was just answering your "am I connected" question
[05:52] <tbocs> do0, Aptana studio?
[05:52] <do0> rww, oh
[05:52] <tbocs> do0, but it's mostly coding, not design ...
[05:53] <do0> tbocs, i see... Any designing software?
[05:54] <tbocs> do0, try this? http://www.kompozer.net/screenshots.php
[05:54] <tbocs> I am afraid there is no killer apps for that for now, do0
[05:56] <ricardo> Hello?
[05:56] <ricardo> is there an specific channel for newbies in linux that we can ask for help?
[05:57] <tbocs> ricardo, that might be ... wiki.ubuntu.com or askubuntu.com or simply google?
[05:57] <tbocs> but if you have quick questions, just shoot here .
[05:57] <subone> Cna someone help me get back into my system? I think there was a problem installing upstart and now it hangs on boot at inti-bottom
[05:57] <Aple> Eh, half-worked.
 #ubuntu-beginners
[05:58] <ricardo> thanks tbocs, but i am a beginner so not sure
[05:58] <tbocs> Aple, because that's open software ... if you want to use JAVA from software, you may have to download it to machine ... i don't know ...
[05:58] <ricardo> i will try that one atharva, thanks
[05:58] <ghazi_savash> hi there
[05:58] <tbocs> Aple, I once went into a website that requires java, and it let me download a script
 : Thanks. :)
[05:58] <Aple> Weird
[05:58] <Hoyt> hi , i got a wired problem http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1322391
[05:58] <ghazi_savash> got a question here
[05:59] <Hoyt> 'apt-get update' died
[05:59] <tbocs> Aple, and it worked after running that script.
[06:00] <Aple> Gonna try MasterOfDisaster's Java plugin ;)
[06:02] <Aple> Yeah, that worked much better
[06:03] <Aple> Sweet! Accidentally hit Win+D and it showed desktop
[06:03] <Aple> Been trying to figure that out for weeks
[06:03] <nommers> Hi :D Where can I go for help installing something from a PPA?
[06:03] <tbocs> Aple, haha you just know that?
[06:04] <tbocs> Aple, same for windows. try Win + W if you haven...
[06:04] <tbocs> haven't
[06:04] <Aple> You have no idea how many times I've asked and have been given the craziest of suggestions
[06:04] <ghazi_savash> I cant boot into my ubuntu 10.04 server
[06:04] <Aple> WHAT SORCERY IS THIS?!
[06:04] <morth> anyone have a job or going to school for computers - /msg plz
[06:04] <ghazi_savash> here is the Log http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1322392
[06:04] <tbocs> nommers, go to launchpad.com and go to any ppa project, and there is instruction
[06:05] <ghazi_savash> I can mount the root FS manually though
[06:05] <nommers> I followed them, I added the ppa, downloaded the packages, and did sudo apt-get update
[06:05] <nommers> But I feel like something is missing
[06:05] <rww> morth: you're perhaps looking for #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:05] <Aple> tbocs: Are there hotkeys for navigating that win+w stuff?
[06:05] <subone> Can anyone help me with "cannot create /dev/null" from chroot dpkg command
[06:05] <Aple> tbocs: Numpad would be awesome but it doesn't work
[06:05] <tbocs> Aple, what do you mean by hotkey? i don't know ... probably from ccsm...
[06:05] <morth> rww: true, thanks.
[06:06] <mcl0vin> can someone please help me with sensors applet
[06:07] <tbocs> !sensor
[06:07] <tbocs> mcl0vin, use xsensors or lm-sensor
[06:08] <mcl0vin> lm-sensor
[06:08] <mcl0vin> i have dell power edge 860 1u server
[06:08] <tbocs> mcl0vin, oh i see, you man you have a problem with that?
[06:08] <tbocs> man -> mean
[06:08] <mcl0vin> yes
[06:09] <tbocs> and what is it, then?
[06:09] <awise12> !sensors | mcl0vin
[06:09] <Aple> tbocs: Like once I Super + W, is there a way to nav those without arrow keys?
[06:10] <tbocs> Aple, you can set them up in compiz (ccsm)
[06:12] <Aple> Eh, can't figure it out. Figured out how to decrease opacity of non-selected windows though so that's good enough
[06:12] <Aple> Man... such a cool ubuntu feature
[06:12] <Aple> Anymore cool things like this? :)
[06:13] <cooldman69> hey guys i just installed ubuntu server and i dont remember being prompted for a root password. what do i do?
[06:13] <tbocs> Aple, there are shortcut settings there, in the application switcher or something
[06:14] <mcl0vin> The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but upstart is not supported for Upstart jobs. ??
[06:14] <tbocs> basically you can enable and disable things there and do fine tuning on the parameters while learning what they do ...
[06:15] <awise12> !sudo | cooldman69
[06:15] <cooldman69> awise12: thanks i know sudo does that but i dont have the root pass. i was never prompted with it during install
[06:16] <awise12> cooldman69: sudo -i will get you #
[06:16] <awise12> cooldman69: you do have a nonroot user right ?
[06:17] <cooldman69> awise12: yes, sudo -i asks for the pass i might just reinstall
[06:17] <awise12> cooldman69: use your user pass
[06:18] <Jordan_U> !root | cooldman69
[06:18] <cooldman69> awise12: wow that worked. i swear i tried it
[06:18] <awise12> cooldman69: sudo -i .... pass: youruser pass not the root dude
[06:19] <cooldman69> awise12: yeah i got it now thanks
[06:19] <awise12> cooldman69: no problem
[06:19] <Aple> tbocs: Can't figure this mumbo jumbo out: http://tinypic.com/r/dha9z9/7
[06:21] <tbocs> Aple, what do you mean? can't change shortcut?
[06:23] <Duncancam> Has anyone experianced error 60 in the UEC - Error 60: server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none?
[06:23] <Duncancam> I seem to be getting it after a new install of 11.04
[06:23] <mcl0vin> can someone please help me get lm-sensors to work , i can't get it to work
[06:23] <tbocs> mcl0vin, well what do you mean by not working?
[06:24] <Aple> tbocs: Just not sure what to change there. Lots of options that all look the same.
[06:24] <tbocs> Aple, oh so you see for every one option there are three items, each of which refers to screen, mouse and keyboard.
[06:24] <tbocs> just change the keyboard one
[06:25] <tbocs> click on the little pencil right there and change. make sure there is no conflict between shortkeys
[06:25] <Aple> The keyboard one for "Current Output"?
[06:25] <mcl0vin> tbocs: Warning: the required module ipmisensors is not currently installed on your system. If it is built into the kernel then it's OK. Otherwise, check http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices for
[06:25] <mcl0vin> driver availability.
[06:26] <awise12> !pastebin
[06:26] <mcl0vin> !pastebinit
[06:27] <Aple> tbocs: Eh, it's no biggie really, I'm happy with just arrowing around. Super+W is awesome. Thanks. Lemme know if there are any other cool things like that I might be missing out on.
[06:28] <tbocs> mcl0vin, don't know. try installing xsensors and give a try?
[06:29] <mcl0vin> !xsensors
[06:29] <tbocs> mcl0vin, just sudo apt-get install xsensors. should work
[06:30] <sgo11> hi, in the terminal/shell, how to login as postgres?  since postgres doesn't have a password. In opensuse, I used to su to root first, and then su postgres. but in ubuntu, it's no longer the case. thanks.
[06:30] <tbocs> sgoll, you mean sudo?
[06:31] <sgo11> tbocs, I want to login as postgres. I don't mean sudo. thanks.
[06:31] <mcl0vin> tbocs: but is there is an applet for it
[06:33] <tbocs> mcl0vin, that's an x-window application.
[06:34] <awise12> sgo11: sudo -u postgres psql template1
[06:35] <sgo11> awise12, ok. thanks. so that means I can not login as postgres. everytime, i have to put sudo in the front....
[06:35] <awise12> sgo11: to install postgress see https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/postgresql.html
[06:37] <sgo11> awise12, I read that before. that is not what I normally did in opensuse. normally, I run all the commands with postgresql login session in a terminal. anyway, will use sudo then.
[06:38] <KingGurke> hey, so, i'm considering installing something from a tarball. i know that's not kosher. is there some way that i can see all the non-apt files on the system
[06:38] <KingGurke> so if i need to remove it, it won't be too big a hassle
[06:39] <Polah> KingGurke: You can typically do "make uninstall" to revert, the same way you do "Make install"
[06:40] <KingGurke> Polah: right, but let's say i didn't have the original source around or something. is there a "show me alien files" command for apt?
[06:41] <Polah> KingGurke: I don't think so. If you install from source them all you have to do it hold onto it and you can do make uninstall if it's supported there. Or get the source again and rebuild it then do make uninstall. I'd advise looking for actual packages instead, from either official repositories or PPAs or standalone .debs
[06:41] <KingGurke> Polah: i'm having problems with the official release (plus it might be too old anyway). so compiling from source is probably my best option, i think
[06:41] <rww> B!checkinstall
[06:41] <rww> !checkinstall
[06:42] <KingGurke> hmm
[06:43] <KingGurke> rww: ok, thanks, i'll give this a try
[06:44] <satanrm> what is a new window manager which will have a menu like gnome-panel in 2.0?
[06:45] <satanrm> the newer unity and gnome 3 both are fail!
[06:45] <rww> !classic
[06:45] <Polah> satanrm: You can use GNOME3 when 11.10 comes out.
[06:45] <rww> !info gnome-session-fallback oneiric
[06:45] <Polah> Also, I just managed to hide my xchat menu bar and click straight through the box that popped up by accident, how do I get it back?
[06:45] <satanrm> the session-fallback will look like gnome-panel?
[06:46] <Polah> satanrm: Why not just used gnome2 though?
[06:46] <satanrm> i am thinking because ubuntu will ask me to upgrade later and i will have to use a shit unity or gnome 3
[06:46] <satanrm> ;p;
[06:47] <rww> satanrm: yes, that's the point of it
[06:47] <rww> well, and also to be something the non-3D people can use
[06:47] <satanrm> rww: gnome 3 and unity both suck
[06:47] <totem> satanrm, :D
[06:48] <rww> satanrm: yes, I heard you said that.
[06:48] <sjihs> Which package contains the info documentation of gcov?
[06:48] <satanrm> future of linux is doomed prolly :P
[06:48] <Polah> satanrm: You can always just reinstall gnome 2 and stick with it if it does force you to upgrade.
[06:48] <rww> satanrm: unlikely, but feel free to tell #ubuntu-offtopic your non-support predictions ;)
[06:48] <satanrm> when the stop releasing updates for gnome 2
[06:48] <satanrm> they*
[06:49] <totem> satanrm, or join ##club-ubuntu :D
[06:49] <satanrm> ok :P
[06:50] <mcl0vin> how do i install ipmisensors module please
[06:51] <Polah> satanrm: That'll happen, but you might be lucky and it'll still work. You can switch to lxde which also has panels, or lxde, xfce, kde or any of the other few dozen that are out there
[06:51] <satanrm> i see
[06:52] <satanrm> i shall lookup lxde and xfce then
[06:52] <satanrm> future of gnome is doomed
[06:52] <rww> satanrm: again, offtopic predictions and comments to #ubuntu-offtopic, please.
[06:53] <satanrm> how can i install lxde and replace gnome
[06:55] <mcl0vin> how do i install ipmisensors module please <-- anyone?
[06:59] <do0> tbocs, It does not have some advance function but still it is good. I want to create some menu with various style such as flash menu.... Do you know any software for it?
[06:59] <padi999> When I use a "for" loop in bash, does it create the list of elements in the beginning or could it add elements that were later added? I.e. if I say: for i in *.mp3 and then inside have a creation of a new mp3, does this then go through the for loop too? recursion so to speak
[06:59] <tbocs> do0, i don't think you have a chance for creating flash on ubuntu...
[07:00] <do0> tbocs, Simple menu will do.... too
[07:00] <tbocs> do0, i guess you will like html5 then ... or just some simple javascript
[07:01] <Polah> do0: If it's for a website, using HTML and PHP would typically be better. You can middle and right click to open links in new tabs and windows and suchlike, not to mention you're guaranteed support on pretty much every browser
[07:01] <do0> tbocs, any tools?
[07:01] <do0> or kompozer will do ?
[07:01] <padi999> no programmers in here?
[07:01] <tbocs> anytools can do javascript ... | do0
[07:01] <Polah> do0: Any text editor you want to use
[07:01] <tbocs> just copy the code into your editor and it will work ...
[07:04] <Polah> padi999: I believe it continually reiterates until the first condition is not met, in your case until it fails to find any more *.mp3 filenames where it's looking. You can specify a loop with a specific list of files which you could get beforehand using find and piping the output somewhere. Have a look at this page: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/loops1.html
[07:05] <sgo11> !boot
[07:06] <padi999> Polah: So that would mean yes it is iterate recursively. Ok
[07:07] <sgo11> hi, how to check what services that is auto-start enabled in ubuntu? I used to use the command service/chkconfig in opensuse. thanks. but it does not exist in ubuntu.
[07:08] <mcl0vin> how do i get the src from my current kernel please?
[07:10] <mxy> sdsd
[07:10] <sgo11> just installed bum. it can show the services.
[07:11] <sgo11> but how to do it in command line without GUI?
[07:12] <txadm> If someone could direct me to help or help me that would be amazing, I would like to set up my ubuntu as a web/ftp server.
[07:13] <Polah> mcl0vin: Take a look at this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[07:14] <Polah> txadm: As a LAMP server, Apache, PHP and MySQL?
[07:15] <txadm> Polah: Yes, just the basics (No email). But definitely Apache, PHP, and MySQL
[07:16] <sgo11> hi, which runlevel does ubuntu boot to for desktop and server? the file /etc/inittab does not exist. runlevel looks different to other linux.
[07:17] <Polah> sgo11: You can use the runlevel command to check what runlevel is currently active. I believe the default is 2 though.
[07:18] <Technicus> How can I connect with the remote desktop protocol, a Ubuntu Desktop to another Ubuntu Desktop that are sharing an internet connection with each other?  One machine has a wireless card and an wired card.  It connects wirelessly to a network then shares that connection with the wired adapter as an adhoc, and is wired to the internet port on a router.  The router is then wired to the other computer.
[07:18] <rww> !runlevel
[07:18] <rww> !upstart
[07:18] <Polah> txadm: There's a package that allows you to just select LAMP and FTP for a list and it install everything tou need for that, if you wait a few minutes I'll try to find that for you.
[07:19] <sgo11> Polah, thanks. it's 2. in opensuse, it's 5 for GUI. 3 for non-GUI. so the startup services will be defined under /etc/rc2.d then. thanks.
[07:19] <mcl0vin> Polah: how do i install ipmisensors this is the missing tube
[07:19] <txadm> Polah: Thank you :)
[07:19] <Polah> sgo11: With Debian and derivates 1 is single user and 2-5 are multi user and are identical
[07:20] <sgo11> Polah, thanks.
[07:20] <Polah> mcl0vin: sudo apt-get install ipmisensors, perhaps?
[07:20] <laiboo> Richashi
[07:21] <bhavesh> Ubuntu 11.10 has GNOME 3 by default but not gnome 3? whats the difference between just GNOME3 and one with shell?
[07:21] <laiboo> Richashi, thanks
[07:21] <mcl0vin> Polah: E: Couldn't find package ipmisensors
[07:21] <mcl0vin> !ipmisensors
[07:23] <Polah> txadm: dex_777 just told me the name of the package I was looking for. If you install tasksel and then run it with sudo you'll get a list, select "LAMP Server" with space and then hit enter and it should install apache2, php5, mysql-server and the apache modules needed for that. Then for FTP there's a myriad of programs you can use. There's vsftpd, proftpd, pureftpd, and lots more.
[07:24] <Polah> mcl0vin: the package is called ipmi-sensors
[07:24] <Polah> hmm, maybe not.
[07:24] <txadm> Polah: Ok, I will go boot my other computer into linux, brb. Thank you very much!
[07:24] <BlackAss> I have no keyboard/mouse to install ubuntu. How can i install it via network (vnc/ssh) or serial cable (rs232)?
[07:24] <Polah> It's freeipmi-tools apparently, from an apt-cache search
[07:25] <Polah> BlackAss: You'd still need a keyboard/mouse to enter things even on a command line install
[07:25] <mightyms> test
[07:27] <mcl0vin> Polah: i still cant get senesors to work
[07:27] <BlackAss> Polah, my laptop is connected with network cable to that PC. But that PC does not have any keyboard/mouse input. So i have to install using VNC/Serial cable.
[07:28] <Polah> mcl0vin: Can't help you any more I'm afraid. I don't know how to use that sensors package.
[07:28] <Nemie> Hi, I have a problem I haven't had before. I just installed a virtual ubuntu server and now it seems that apt doesn't work as it should. I have connection out to 'internet' and not just our internal network. I have tested this with ping and wget. Tho it seems that apt "can't get out". It can't find any packages or install packages. When I installed the server I only gave it a nic in the internal network and then it couldn't get out to 'internet'. Could this
[07:28] <Polah> BlackAss: Oh, I see. Well, you could boot a LiveCD/USB but I don't see how you'd be able to enable a remote desktop service without a keyboard or mouse initialliy.
[07:29] <BlackAss> Polah, yes exactly. I cant prepare a USB setup so that i can login from my laptop, VNC. How do i do that?
[07:29] <BlackAss> s/cant/can
[07:30] <laiboo> openwrt加入自己的package编译为什么总是不能通过阿？
[07:30] <mcl0vin> BlackAss: use nx client
[07:30] <mcl0vin> i love that thing
[07:30] <Polah> BlackAss: Oh yes actually if you customised the Live system then you could have it start up a pre-configured VNC server and connect to it
[07:30] <Polah> !remaster | BlackAss
[07:30] <Polah> Or even just the built in remote desktop
[07:32] <richashi> laiboo,******?
[07:32] <Polah> BlackAss: I don't see any other way to do it other than remastering the ISO with a suitable remote client to start up. It'd be fairly easy, just follow the preparation instructions and then install it as normal and configure after chrooting
[07:32] <BlackAss> Polah, thank you. Are they using Anaconda kernel argument in isolinux.cfg?
[07:33] <rajeevs> cam i set a local repository for storing updates and using over a lan
[07:33] <rajeevs> *can
[07:34] <Polah> BlackAss: I don't know what you mean by that. Remaster the CD involves loop mounting it on your current, running system then chrooting to modify it then generating a new iso and creating a LiveCD/USB from that
[07:34] <canadacow> Anyone had any success getting xrdp to work under 11.04?
[07:35] <BlackAss> Polah, Thank you, i am looking those docs, i have tried once like this, is this same with Ubuntu too? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda_Boot_Options