[00:01] <Bashing-om> zartoosh: Many times, if one boots with the grub boot parameter 'nomodeset' then install the proprietary driver from "Additional Drivers" all is OK,. Is this what you have in mind ?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: You want the later version of grub in 14.04 .
[00:04] <zartoosh> Bashing-om, yes that is what I want, I can not find where in grub.conf to add this option? thx
[00:04] <tiglionabbit> I’m having trouble setting up ldap+kerberos account management.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/486131/having-trouble-setting-up-ldap-and-kerberos
[00:07] <Bashing-om> zartoosh: Boot ubuntu, as soon as the bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key -> grub boot menu; press the 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameter screen; arrow down and across to the terms "quiet splash" and insert also nomodeset. key combo ctl+x to contine the boot process.
[00:08] <zartoosh> Bashing-om, thank you so much
[00:09] <Bashing-om> zartoosh: : ) ... let us know how it goes.
[00:13] <Grant_P> Hello All what kernel release was before 3.13.0-24-generic? Pretty sure recent kernel upgrades has fkd my sound.
[00:15] <Fyodorovna> Grant_P, It is not in your grub menu, did you remove it?
[00:15] <Grant_P> Fyodorovna: Nope not in the grub menu, suspect it got auto removed
[00:16] <Ben64> Grant_P: they don't get autoremoved
[00:16] <Fyodorovna> Grant_P, Does not get auto removed unless you have set that up.
[00:16] <daftykins> Grant_P: ls /boot
[00:16] <Ben64> Grant_P: what version of ubuntu?
[00:16] <daftykins> has to be trusty with a 3.13 i'd think
[00:17] <Fyodorovna> Grant_P, If you run sudo update-grub how many kernel set do you see?
[00:17] <Fyodorovna> sets*
[00:17] <Grant_P> Ben64: Fyodorovna Running 14.04 and ls /boot is only showing me one newer kernel which is also broke.
[00:18] <Grant_P> Fyodorovna: Ben64 3.13.0-24 and 3.13.0-29
[00:18] <daftykins> what kind of sound setup have you got that's changed?
[00:19] <Grant_P> daftykins: I'm using Meridian Explorer DAC which was working perfectly, box had been up 30 days. There was power maintenance, took the box down and brought it back up and had no sound.
[00:19] <Fyodorovna> Grant_P, 3.13.0-24 is the last one
[00:19] <Grant_P> Fyodorovna: ah really so no kernel upgrades before -24? Damn, well this sucks lol.
[00:20] <Fyodorovna> Grant_P, Depends when you installed.
[00:20] <Grant_P> Fyodorovna: Fresh install 14.04 pretty much at release time.
[00:20] <cuddylier> What's the best sftp ubuntu command line client?
[00:21] <Grant_P> Fyodorovna: I tried a few of the steps here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure but still no luck.
[00:22] <Fyodorovna> Grant_P, I would know nothing on sound issues.
[00:22] <Grant_P> Fyodorovna: really need to pay more attention on the updates been pushed through, happened once before too.
[00:22] <Grant_P> Fyodorovna: Does Ubuntu maintain some kernel release page for 14.04?
[00:22] <potato_farmer> cuddylier: lftp is a good one
[00:23] <potato_farmer> cuddylier: But it's not ubuntu specific.
[00:23] <cuddylier> potato_farmer: Does it support SFTP, yeah?
[00:23] <potato_farmer> cuddylier: Yes, it supports sftp.
[00:23] <Fyodorovna> Grant_P, I'm just looking for what was the kernel at release, as 3.13.0-24 is an upgrade from it.
[00:25] <Kouen> hello
[00:25] <Fyodorovna> Grant_P, here are some release notes if that helps, not sure on your last question without googling. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[00:25] <Grant_P> Fyodorovna: Cool, just found the same page. Looks like 13.13.0-24.46
[00:26] <tortib> I followed the how to on how to setup iptable rules on my ubuntu-server installation.  However, when I rebooted the machine it did not load the /etc/iptables.rules file with all the rules in it.  Is there something else I have to do?  The how to only said to use sh -c "iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules"
[00:27] <Grant_P> Fyodorovna: 3.13.0-24.47 is the one on my machine. There must be small differences between .46 and .47
[00:27] <Bashing-om> Fyodorovna: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ <- all the kernels. Best I recall the -24 kernel was the release version.
[00:27] <tortib> oh I see I need to add it to /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/
[00:27] <tortib> nm :)
[00:28] <Kouen> hello bezet
[00:28] <Fyodorovna> Bashing-om, Does not matter to me but thanks, I install all developments immediately and never have kernel problems, so not on my radar.
[00:29] <Kouen> Welcome Mustafa1968
[00:29] <Mustafa1968> hello Kouen
[00:39] <Richhh> keyboard shortcut to delete til end of line in terminal?
[00:40] <Richhh> C-k
[00:40] <Richhh> got it
[00:42] <Richhh> how bout delete a word after the cursor?
[00:44]  * _C3r34l_ pinging
[00:44] <bekks> Richhh: alt+d
[00:45] <Richhh> nope
[00:47] <Richhh> don't like alt+f , ctrl+w
[00:47] <Guest48378> Richhh, please open a terminal and read "man bash" => section "Commands for Changing Text"
[00:48] <Richhh> kk
[00:48] <_C3r34l_> how do remove  a user from sudo'ers list?
[00:48] <Ben64> _C3r34l_: remove them from the sudo group
[00:49] <Richhh> what's M-d?
[00:49] <Richhh> @ Guest48378
[00:50] <_C3r34l_> I am 15 and just started using.. Steps pls?
[00:51] <kostkon> _C3r34l_, welcome
[00:51] <kostkon> !manual | _C3r34l_
[00:52] <Guest48378> Richhh, M-d => [ Meta ] [ d ] => read section "Readline Notation" in "man bash" for an explanation of how to use key combinations
[00:52] <_C3r34l_> ubottu i meant removing a user from sudoers list!
[00:52] <_C3r34l_> Lol
[00:53] <gr33n7007h> _C3r34l_, edit file: /etc/sudoers
[00:53] <Ben64> gr33n7007h: incorrect
[00:53] <Ben64> _C3r34l_: "sudo deluser <user> sudo"
[00:54] <Ben64> _C3r34l_: be very careful with that command though, and don't remove every user that has sudo
[00:54] <_C3r34l_> Thx Ben64
[00:54] <MrSendova> _c3r34l_: you can also use  visudo (read man visudo)
[00:55] <_C3r34l_> Btw the second sudo is for the group rt?
[01:06] <cuddylier> Does anyone know the lftp command to connect to SFTP? I can't get it
[01:10] <gr33n7007h> cuddylier, What command are you trying?
[01:10] <cuddylier> lftp then
[01:10] <cuddylier> open -u root,[password] -p [ip]
[01:10] <cuddylier> Then I typed 'ls'
[01:10] <cuddylier> ls' at 0 [FEAT negotiation...]
[01:10] <cuddylier> Then it sticks at that
[01:10] <cuddylier> This is SFTP btw, port 22
[01:11] <cuddylier> I meant for command open -u root,[password] -p [port] [ip]
[01:11] <cuddylier> gr33n7007h
[01:12] <gr33n7007h> cuddylier, lftp sftp://root@whatever.null:22
[01:13] <cuddylier> gr33n7007h: That worked, thanks a lot.
[01:13] <gr33n7007h> cuddylier, np!
[01:16] <Faloon> fla ae galera !! alguem sabe como  q faiz pro playonlinux abrir
[01:16] <Faloon> pq tipo eu clico nele
[01:16] <jamdav> :set theme default
[01:16] <Faloon> e nd acontece
[01:16] <Faloon> ??
[01:16] <Faloon> alguem sabe ??
[01:16] <Ben64> !br | Faloon
[01:16] <cuddylier> gr33n7007h: Now for downloading, I did 'queue pget [file].zip' then 'queue start' but it shows nothing up? Is it actually transferring?
[01:18] <Faloon> sim
[01:23] <rsvp> when can we expect the point release 14.04.1 ??
[01:26] <daftykins> rsvp: the date is listed online, easily searchable
[01:26] <daftykins> it's in July
[01:28] <rsvp> thanks, it's nice to be able to easily ask.
[01:29] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[01:29] <daftykins> lazy people using IRC as a search engine substitute, tsk tsk
[01:29] <Fyodorovna> all day and all night probably 75% are
[01:29] <daftykins> :)
[01:33] <Xaitec> any one here using the AMD APU on linux?
[01:33] <daftykins> Xaitec: what would your actual question be?
[01:34] <Xaitec> daftykins: how well the integrated graphics performs
[01:35] <daftykins> that would be an odd thing to quantify
[01:36] <Akiba_> hey guys
[01:36] <Akiba_> hey correctico
[01:38] <Akiba_> guys
[01:38] <Akiba_> can anyone help me with something?
[01:38] <daftykins> only if you ask a question
[01:38] <Akiba_> lol ok
[01:38] <Akiba_> first of all can i base my own distro off of ubuntu?
[01:39] <daftykins> there are a fair few already, are you sure you need to reinvent the wheel?
[01:39] <Akiba_> i was going to do it for my specific line of products
[01:40] <daftykins> what are they?
[01:40] <Akiba_> computers sort of how apple has mac and mac os x
[01:41]  * Fyodorovna rolls their eyes
[01:42] <Akiba_> making ubuntu a little bit easier to use and slightly safer out of box
[01:42] <Akiba_> with a different ui
[01:42] <daftykins> lawl.
[01:42] <Akiba_> ?
[01:43] <daftykins> well, no such questions would really relate to support then i'd think
[01:43] <Akiba_> would programming relate to support?
[01:45] <Aki-Thinkpad> Akiba_, hey what do you need to know?
[01:45]  * Aki-Thinkpad just got here
[01:46] <sveta> yes, you can ask programming questions here
[01:47] <Aki-Thinkpad> Akiba_, what ui do you want to base your products on?
[01:48] <Akiba_> sort of home grown
[01:48] <Ben64> doesn't sound on topic for here really
[01:48] <Aki-Thinkpad> Ben64, perhaps he would find #mint more appropriate
[01:48] <Aki-Thinkpad> They would be able to relate to him better
[01:48] <Akiba_> lol
[01:49] <Akiba_> mint has no one
[01:49] <Ben64> well its definitely not ubuntu support
[01:49] <daftykins> !mint
[01:49] <daftykins> they're on a different network
[01:49] <Aki-Thinkpad> Akiba_, here, i'll send you a pm, give you a bit of a run down
[01:49] <Akiba_> aight thanks
[01:56] <micheal_> Hello, I'm attempting to make an Ubuntu-based custom LiveCD and having trouble. Is this where I should ask, or is there a more specific channel?
[01:56] <holstein> micheal_: not really a "better" place.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[01:57] <holstein> micheal_: it can be challenging.. its not really something in the default work flow..
[01:57] <micheal_> holstein, tried that, followed the "from scratch" guide, having a very odd error when the image boots...
[01:57] <holstein> micheal_: sure.. just elaborate, if you want
[01:59] <micheal_> The intent of the image is to create a headless server, using NoDM. When it boots, it appears to go just fine, no error messages, then suddenly says "Authentication error" about ten times in a row and stops.
[01:59] <micheal_> I've tried using LightDM and purging NoDM, so that doesn't seem to be the problem.
[01:59] <holstein> micheal_: you can use the server iso for that..
[01:59] <holstein> !Mini
[02:00] <holstein> i might just get an install, and clone it, instead of doing a live CD
[02:00] <RLW980> Hello guys
[02:00] <RLW980> how do i make a bootable usb
[02:00] <cuddylier> Anyone any idea why 14.04 server isn't reading my /etc/network/interfaces file even after doing 'ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0'?
[02:01] <micheal_> Yes, but the idea is that I can just use unetbootin or whatever to boot off of a usb drive, no hard drive. Every time I've tried to install to a usb drive it fails
[02:01] <RLW980> from ubuntu to windows
[02:01] <holstein> micheal_: you can install to USB, or whatever you like
[02:01] <Fyodorovna> RLW980, A windows ISO on a usb?
[02:02] <holstein> micheal_: i think that would be easier to address.. how to get a bootable USB working, rather than how to build a custom OS from scratch
[02:02] <RLW980> Fyodorovna: Yes
[02:02] <holstein> RLW980: i use unetbootin
[02:02] <Fyodorovna> RLW980, What windows release?
[02:02] <holstein> RLW980: you can dd copy the iso's as well
[02:02] <RLW980> Fyodorovna:Windows 7
[02:03] <RLW980> holstein: and can you
[02:03] <holstein> RLW980: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:04] <micheal_> holstein: I'm not sure why, but every time I've tried installing Ubuntu to a USB, it fails partway through.
[02:04] <Fyodorovna> RLW980, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html and another, you can just extract and give the fat32 a bootflag just additional beyond what has been suggested.
[02:05] <holstein> micheal_: ok.. you can elaborate if you like.. about "fails".. otherwise, could be the stick, or you are running out of space.. you have used the mini iso? or the server iso?
[02:05] <RLW980> Fyodorovna: Thanks
[02:06] <micheal_> holstein: Usually I use the standard Xubuntu desktop. I haven't tried using the other isos, but... I'm honestly not sure what goes wrong. Everything just starts acting really weird for a while, then it will just lock up at different points in the setup.
[02:06] <micheal_> holstein: I've tried different sticks, different computers, and there's plenty of RAM. It's very strange.
[02:08] <holstein> micheal_: you say you want headless, so why not try the mini iso? its literally 30 mb's.. download it and try an install to the stick
[02:08] <RLW980> I shall get on with it i shall let you know guys if it worked or not
[02:08] <holstein> micheal_: i *never* have a stick install fail like that, unless im putting grub somewhere problematic.. your internet could be a common factor.. you can confirm the md5 sums..
[02:09] <holstein> !md5
[02:09] <micheal_> holstein: I didn't know about the mini. Thought server was the only other option there. I've used that same image many times.
[02:09] <holstein> micheal_: try the mini iso, friend
[02:09] <holstein> !mini
[02:09] <holstein> micheal_: its small, and you can have a test case reported here in a few minutes about installing to the stick
[02:10] <micheal_> holstein: Will do. Thanks.
[02:11] <golazo> How do I get started with programming on Ubuntu?
[02:11] <holstein> golazo: same as any os really.. but this is more the support channel.. what are you interested in accomplishing?
[02:12] <holstein> golazo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[02:13] <golazo> Thanks!
[02:13] <dsrikarreddy> Hey Guys
[02:13] <dsrikarreddy> I need some information about VPN
[02:13] <daftykins> !vpn
[02:13] <_44trent> so i installed ubuntu and now i keep getting mei_me 0000:00:03.0: timer: connect/disconnect timeout and i don't have any idea what to do
[02:14] <dsrikarreddy> i have connected to VPN, accessed internet and then disconnected VPN
[02:14] <dsrikarreddy> Facebook was not opening
[02:14] <micheal_> holstein: How would you recommend I install it? I could do some VM thing, but is there a way to use ubiquity from my already running computer?
[02:14] <holstein> micheal_: the "VM thing" ?
[02:15] <dsrikarreddy> ubottu:
[02:15] <holstein> micheal_: i suggest, putting the installation media and source on the same machine, and installing as normal as possible.. especially since you seem to be having issues
[02:15] <holstein> dsrikarreddy: ubottu is a bot
[02:15] <dsrikarreddy> oops
[02:15] <micheal_> holstein: Running VirtualBox with the mini-image, attaching my chosen USB device to the VM. I've had trouble with VBox's usb.
[02:15] <golazo> lol
[02:15] <holstein> dsrikarreddy: you are connected to *what* vpn?
[02:16] <_44trent> so does anyone know what that means?
[02:16] <dsrikarreddy> holstein: My company VPN
[02:16] <holstein> micheal_: if the goal is to install onto a USB stick, just do that.. keep it simple
[02:16] <Aki-Thinkpad> hey I need a search program who will search directories, and the text itself inside the files
[02:16] <dsrikarreddy> accessed internal websites and then disconnected it
[02:16] <Aki-Thinkpad> any suggestions
[02:16] <holstein> dsrikarreddy: your "company" likely block facebook.. see that you are on the VPN, and take up any connectivity issues with the VPN maintainers
[02:16] <Ben64> Aki-Thinkpad: grep?
[02:17] <_44trent> anyone?
[02:17] <dsrikarreddy> holstein: will the internet be accessed thro VPN only after disconnecting ?
[02:17] <daftykins> _44trent: so the live session ran fine enough to install?
[02:17] <dsrikarreddy> holstein: or is just because of firefox settings ?
[02:18] <_44trent> er i used the minimal cd download
[02:18] <holstein> dsrikarreddy: its not my network, friend.. i cant speak for what you are allowed to connect to there
[02:18] <_44trent> I didn't see anything about live session
[02:18] <holstein> _44trent: looks like uefi related..
[02:18] <holstein> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=168403 for example, in the arch wiki _44trent .. though i just skimmed..
[02:18] <holstein> !uefi
[02:19] <holstein> _44trent: you could try blacklisting that module.. i think that would tell you something
[02:19] <daftykins> _44trent: mini.iso ?
[02:19] <_44trent> yep mini.iso
[02:19] <dsrikarreddy> holstein: My question is , will the internet be accessed thro VPN even after disconnectiing
[02:19] <daftykins> _44trent: why?
[02:20] <_44trent> well i don't have any blank dvds only had blank cds
[02:20] <dsrikarreddy> holstein: or was that just because of firefox configuration when VPN got connected to VPN
[02:20] <holstein> dsrikarreddy: "even after disconnecting" ? from what?
[02:21] <dsrikarreddy> holstein: from VPN
[02:21] <_44trent> tthe problem is that i can't type anything cause the error comes up all the time
[02:21] <holstein> dsrikarreddy: you are on your network, you connect to whatever your network connects to.. you connect to VPN, you get what the VPN supports and allows, if its not your VPN.. you disconnect from VPN, you are back to your network.. assuming you implement all of that properly
[02:21] <qstrahl> Trying to log out of my main account in Unity on 14.04 seems to take forever. Like on the order of a minute or two. Anyone happen to have a clue why that could be?
[02:21] <holstein> !tty | _44trent
[02:22] <holstein> _44trent: try a different tty, if you can
[02:22] <daftykins> qstrahl: guest session acts fine?
[02:22] <qstrahl> daftykins, Yup
[02:22] <qstrahl> daftykins, Main account is encrypted; possibly relevant?
[02:22] <dsrikarreddy> holstein: thanks
[02:23] <_44trent> tht didn't work
[02:23] <mark06> how do I download only the orig.tar.gz for a package?
[02:23] <daftykins> qstrahl: i know nothing about encryption, beyond the numbers of people that come in here with issues with it. i know people look for the .xsession-errors file in ~/ when they have issues logging in, i wonder if anything on logout logs to there too? total guess.
[02:23] <holstein> _44trent: that?
[02:24] <_44trent> none of them up to f6 worked
[02:24] <qstrahl> daftykins, Doesn't look like there's anything of substance in there. Thanks though!
[02:24] <holstein> _44trent: you should be able to edit a blacklist file from a live CD, if you cant figure out how to get around the output
[02:24] <holstein> _44trent: i would try screen.. or, just open a file with nano and edit..
[02:24] <holstein> or, install a desktop environment...
[02:25] <Fyodorovna> mark06, google package.tar.gz  beyond that what package?
[02:25] <_44trent> yeah the mini.iso didn't come with any gui did it?
[02:25] <holstein> _44trent: `correct.. the mini iso is minimal. what is the goal here? to have a full system?
[02:26] <_44trent> i think in the installation they had options for gnome, kde, and xfce so ill reinstall and see what happens
[02:26] <_44trent> don't know about unity
[02:26] <holstein> _44trent: `no.. you can just add waht you like now
[02:27] <holstein> _44trent: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for example
[02:27] <jabarFed> hello
[02:27] <_44trent> yeah but the error comes up so often i can't even log in
[02:27] <holstein> _44trent: you should try
[02:27] <_44trent> mmk
[02:27] <holstein> _44trent: i'll likely go  through.. your login attempt
[02:29] <_44trent> im gonna do
[02:29] <daftykins> _44trent: i have found a relevant link
[02:29] <_44trent> whoops
[02:29] <_44trent> didn't mean to put that in
[02:29] <_44trent> what is the link?
[02:29] <daftykins> _44trent: as you were suggested to try earlier, it involves blacklisting a module, as these messages may relate to the intel vpro tech. you can either try that, or look in your BIOS/EFI for vpro related options - though likely it's not user configurable
[02:30] <daftykins> _44trent: http://askubuntu.com/questions/419853/mei-me-unexpected-reset
[02:30] <_44trent> Well then ill have to do that live image thing holstein mentioned
[02:30] <daftykins> _44trent: as a one time thing, run: sudo rmmod mei_me mei
[02:31] <holstein> first, get logged in.. ignore the output and login
[02:32] <_44trent> got logged in
[02:32] <_44trent> no output is coming out now
[02:32] <_44trent> i might be able to pull this off now
[02:32] <daftykins> _44trent: we don't need a running commentary
[02:32] <Vorenii> Hello
[02:33] <_44trent> whoops i have a verrrry bad habit of doing that and end up nnoying a bunch of people which is well bad
[02:33] <Vorenii> Is it possible to do a full install without a dvd or usb? Like maybe partition the disc myself etc?
[02:34] <holstein> Vorenii: yes
[02:34] <_44trent> rmod is not a recognized command
[02:34] <daftykins> _44trent: rmmod.
[02:34] <Vorenii> holstein, are to elaborate please?
[02:34] <holstein> Vorenii: i suggest not doing that.. it will be much easier to just make bootable media.. though, from an installer, you can partition manually as you please
[02:34] <_44trent> whoops im blind
[02:35] <Vorenii> holstein, i really have no usb or dvd near me. Yet rly want to start playing with ubuntu again.
[02:35] <mark06> Fyodorovna: wat? just found it, origtargz tool
[02:35] <holstein> Vorenii: use VM
[02:35] <daftykins> Vorenii: what's your host OS?
[02:35] <holstein> Vorenii: virtualbox.. etc
[02:35] <Vorenii> Windows 7
[02:35] <_44trent> there got that part in
[02:35] <Vorenii> And i dont want a VM, i want it dual booted.
[02:35] <daftykins> Vorenii: yeah, as holstein says... you're not going to magic ubuntu onto the disk alongside windows without boot media
[02:36] <_44trent> well, now what?
[02:36] <holstein> Vorenii: go for it.. there will be many guides on how to take a slice of your hard drive, after *much* pain, and boot installable ubuntu there and, again, after much pain, and hopefully not breaking your drive, install to another partition
[02:36] <_44trent> where do i need to go to blacklist that?
[02:36] <daftykins> _44trent: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install <desktop of your choice>
[02:36] <daftykins> _44trent: ubuntu-desktop if you want standard unity
[02:37] <_44trent> ok
[02:37] <holstein> Vorenii: what would i do? in order.. install ubuntu with *any* installable media.. put a fork in my eye.. install from any os using one drive as the source and destination. .though, it can be done..
[02:39] <_44trent> wait did the command from earlier blacklist it?
[02:39] <holstein> _44trent: what command specifically?
[02:40] <daftykins> the rmmod.
[02:40] <_44trent> the one that had rmmod in it
[02:40] <daftykins> _44trent: one thing. at a time.
[02:40] <pumice> how can i tell if thunderbolt is working?
[02:41] <daftykins> pumice: plug a thunderbolt device in?
[02:41] <holstein> pumice: i would just plug something in and test..
[02:41] <_44trent> according to my google search tht did blacklist it
[02:41] <pumice> it is a system i am setting up for developer, i do not have tb device
[02:42] <daftykins> then you cannot test.
[02:42] <holstein> pumice: you'll need to get one
[02:42] <pumice> i do have tb monitor it works but i want to make sure driver is loading
[02:42] <_44trent> well then thanks
[02:43] <_44trent> hopefully i don't have any more problems
[02:43] <pumice> no place to check what drivers are loaded?
[02:44] <daftykins> loading a driver != using a device
[02:45] <holstein> pumice: it doesnt really matter, though.. you are not promised thunderbolt support for linux from the creators of the hardare.. so, you will need to test with actual hardware
[02:46] <pumice> thunderbolt monitor does work and running correct res
[02:51] <_44trent> erm now its telling me something about failing to fetch some files when i do sudo apt-get update
[02:52] <_44trent> since it told me to do that when i tried to get ubuntu-desktop
[02:52] <_44trent> is that normal???
[02:53] <_44trent> whoops didn't mean to put all of those question marks
[02:54] <_44trent> anyone?
[02:56] <_44trent> did nyone catch what i just said
[02:57] <holstein> _44trent: its normal if you are not online
[02:57] <_44trent> Oh.
[02:57] <_44trent> aparrently im not
[02:57] <_44trent> what is the commnd to connect to wifi?
[02:57] <holstein> _44trent: make sure you are connected.. sudo apt-get update should complete with no error.. otherwise, you will have issues going on any further
[02:58] <holstein> _44trent: i wouldnt.. i would just plug it in, wired.. then, add whatever desktop i want, which will come with a network manager
[02:58] <holstein> _44trent: or, you can just download lubuntu or xubuntu and start that way.. might be easeier
[02:58] <holstein> easier*
[02:59] <_44trent> i have no idea where the ethernet cord is i don't usually go where i am currently
[02:59] <_44trent> So i know next to nothing about where stuff is
[02:59] <holstein> _44trent: thats the easy way... http://blog.tplus1.com/blog/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/
[03:00] <daftykins> _44trent: does "ifconfig -a" show a "wlan0" ?
[03:00] <daftykins> or similar.
[03:00] <_44trent> no
[03:00] <daftykins> anything?
[03:01] <_44trent> local loopback
[03:01] <_44trent> waitwaitwait
[03:01] <_44trent> I really need to read more carefully next time
[03:01] <_44trent> I see wlan0 on there
[03:02] <_44trent> well then
[03:02] <micheal_> holstein: So I've been installing the mini image this whole time. It's taking forever.
[03:03] <Sunstream> so
[03:03] <_44trent> now what i do i did actually see a wlan0
[03:03] <holstein> micheal_: shouldnt.. i specifically suggested it because its faster.. i can do a normal install pretty quick as well..
[03:03] <daftykins> _44trent: are you a goldfish> you were given a link
[03:03] <holstein> micheal_: well, i shouldnt say its faster.. its smaller, and doesnt take as long..
[03:03] <micheal_> holstein: I dunno. The network isn't the problem, it's on the unpacking phase now.
[03:04] <_44trent> ...
[03:04] <_44trent> sorry
[03:04] <holstein> micheal_: you shouldnt be using the network.. just install without accessing the network
[03:04] <micheal_> holstein: Well you didn't mention that. I assumed it would give me a chance to tell it what I wanted before installing everything.
[03:05] <holstein> micheal_: here is what i suggest, friend. *just* get an install booting on a stick.. period
[03:05] <micheal_> holstein: Okay, well I'm restarting the install then
[03:05] <holstein> micheal_: dont install extra packages, or set it up.. or add anything.. especially during install. just install the mini iso as-is on the stick, and test booting it
[03:06] <holstein> thats all we are testing for.. can you boot a usb stick with ubuntu installed on it..
[03:06] <micheal_> holstein: It's not letting me install without the internet.
[03:07] <holstein> micheal_: ok...
[03:07] <holstein> it works for me
[03:07] <micheal_> It keeps going in a loop of "pick a mirror, mirror failed, pick a mirror"
[03:08] <holstein> micheal_: then, pick a mirror, and dont install anything
[03:08] <micheal_> I can't continue because the mirror fails.
[03:09] <micheal_> It doesn't give me an option to choose what I will install before it goes ahead and does it
[03:09] <holstein> micheal_: what are you saying? friend?
[03:09] <holstein> micheal_: if you need to connect, connect.. just make the steps complete, and dont install any extra packages
[03:09] <micheal_> I'm not sure what's unclear about this. Without the network, it will not proceed. With the network, it doesn't ask me what I want. It just installs everything.
[03:10] <holstein> micheal_: ok
[03:11] <daftykins> that's not how a mini ISO works
[03:11] <micheal_> I think it would disagree.
[03:11] <holstein> sounds like its not the mini iso..
[03:11] <micheal_> Because that's how it's working.
[03:11] <micheal_> I don't know what to tell you. I got the mini iso. It downloads everything.
[03:12] <daftykins> which ISO? got a link?
[03:12] <daftykins> i did a mini install just the other day and if you select the correct options, it just installs the most basic possible
[03:13] <micheal_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD 64-bit trusty tahr.
[03:13] <holstein> yup..
[03:13] <daftykins> but you need to have your wits about you, don't even select "base system" or whatever it says at the top
[03:13] <holstein> ^ just the minimal packages
[03:13] <holstein> select no additional software
[03:13] <daftykins> you just run through with the bare essentials
[03:13] <holstein> micheal_: maybe thats where the issue is.. you are asking it to install something
[03:13] <daftykins> then you get a setup akin to a bare server install
[03:14] <daftykins> occam's razor, gentlemen
[03:16] <micheal_> Okay I just did it again. Immediately after choosing the partition, it gives me no options.
[03:16] <daftykins> i'm creating a VM for fun
[03:16] <daftykins> are we trying to prove that it should go through without a net connection?
[03:16] <micheal_> I assumed that it would install the bare minimum and ask me after that, but it took an extremely long time.
[03:18] <holstein> micheal_: dont check any boxes.. or assume anything.. this is intended to be a quick way for you to get a USB stick booting.. or an error message..
[03:18] <micheal_> I mean, this is a single-core machine I'm testing it on, but that shouldn't be so much of a problem. I didn't give it any swap space, but unpacking the bare minimum of packages shouldn't exhaust my memory.
[03:18] <holstein> micheal_: i install from the mini iso in literally a few minutes..
[03:18] <micheal_> I did not check any boxes. This is exactly what I did: autoconfigure network. pick mirror. pick partition.
[03:18] <daftykins> what's the spec of this system?
[03:19] <micheal_> Single core AMD, 4gb ram,
[03:20] <daftykins> nothing wrong with that, Athlon XP era?
[03:20] <micheal_> Er, I'm not sure. Sempron? It's an AM3 socket
[03:20] <daftykins> ok
[03:20] <daftykins> so am i exposing my VM to an internet connection yay or nay...
[03:21] <daftykins> guess it doesn't matter to prove this
[03:22] <daftykins> ok, picked english UK...
[03:22] <micheal_> Yeah the install's slowing down a lot. I just checked the ram on another terminal, it's still got 90%+ free
[03:22] <holstein> the install?
[03:23] <holstein> micheal_: the install is slowing down a lot?
[03:23] <micheal_> Yes.
[03:23] <daftykins> IP auto config... hostname... mirror... proxy... now i'm on 'Loading additional components' and got a progress bar
[03:23] <daftykins> i'm at 28% already
[03:24] <daftykins> username, encryption no, timezone...
[03:25] <micheal_> That sounds the same as what I did so far.
[03:25] <daftykins> so you said you chose no swap?
[03:25] <micheal_> Yeah. 4GB ram, I shouldn't have any problems, and I don't want to burn my usb sticks out even faster.
[03:25] <daftykins> you're installin to flash 0o
[03:26] <daftykins> ok i'm doing single partition ext4 /, no swap
[03:26] <micheal_> Yeah I know. Ideally it should boot, start its processes, and then never write to disk again as long as it stays up.
[03:26] <daftykins> ignored the message and now i'm installing the base system
[03:26] <daftykins> that's normal
[03:26] <micheal_> Yep. That's where it slows down
[03:26] <daftykins> slow compared to...?
[03:27] <micheal_> Slow as in I had been sitting there letting it do that for at least 20 minutes and it barely got past perl.
[03:27] <daftykins> just jumped from 2% to 26% after grabbing some packages
[03:27] <daftykins> perl-base at 38% just now
[03:27] <micheal_> Unpacking perl that is
[03:27] <holstein> USB sticks can be slower, but not that much slower..
[03:27] <micheal_> Yeah I'm ay 37%, on an install that I started back when I said I did it
[03:28] <micheal_> I have no idea what's going on with this.
[03:28] <daftykins> well... i have to say this is no apples to apples comparison
[03:28] <micheal_> This is a fresh usb stick. Literally jsut removed it from the packaging. Tried other sticks, at least five over all the times I've tried this.
[03:28] <daftykins> as i'm using an i5 sandybridge laptop with an SSD source and destination
[03:29] <daftykins> but does the speed of the install really matter?
[03:29] <holstein> i have had many bad sticks literally out of the packaging.. more than a couple at least
[03:29] <daiyi> ...
[03:29] <holstein> micheal_: what is the same? the iso is the same.. have you tested the sums?
[03:29] <holstein> !md5
[03:29] <micheal_> The iso is not the same. Let me explain how many times I've done this.
[03:30] <micheal_> I spent at least six hours trying this with Xubuntu-desktop, with different usb sticks, motherboards, and images.
[03:30] <micheal_> And xubuntu-server, since that was one of the images I tried.
[03:30] <holstein> micheal_: no need.. im just explaining, i would try and isolate what is the same, and what is different.. and what the issue is.. i boot usb sticks all the time
[03:30] <daftykins> micheal_: you should probably be using a non-journalled FS on such a drive
[03:30] <micheal_> Yes. I picked ext2,
[03:30] <daftykins> ah good stuff
[03:31] <daftykins> ok mines finished, configured apt and all, now i'm being asked if i want auto updates
[03:31] <micheal_> Mine just hit perl-base.
[03:31] <holstein> i ususally do ext2 as well in that case.. or sd cards..
[03:31] <daftykins> i'm saying no, now it's grabbing 26 files
[03:31] <daftykins> now i've got tasksel up, with the menu of software options
[03:32] <daftykins> i'm not even going to pick one, i'm just going to hit continue
[03:32] <daftykins> now it's grabbing 107 packages
[03:32] <micheal_> You don't have to continue installing, I think the point has been made that it's being very slow.
[03:33] <daftykins> have you done an install to HDD to see it acts fine?
[03:34] <micheal_> Not with this computer, no. I just pulled the hard drive out of it... don't really want to attach it again.
[03:34] <micheal_> I don't think this is an I/O problem with the motherboard or something. It does the same thing on other boards.
[03:34] <daftykins> there we go, mines installed and sat at login
[03:34] <daftykins> are you using rear panel USB ports?
[03:34] <micheal_> Yeah
[03:34] <_44trent> now im just getting an > on the command line
[03:34] <holstein> _44trent: ok.. whats the question?
[03:35] <daftykins> _44trent: that's wonderful, but unfortunately i'm unable to mindread as to what you did last.
[03:35] <daftykins> micheal_: that machine is too old for USB 3 i take it?
[03:35] <_44trent> so now im just getting a > in the command line
[03:35] <_44trent> no command is working
[03:35] <micheal_> No, I just built it. It has plenty of them, but the sticks I have aren't USB 3.
[03:37] <daftykins> micheal_: ok, just checking you're not using a 3.0 slot with the flash drive
[03:37] <_44trent> so now what do i do holstein?
[03:37] <micheal_> daftykins: Oh no I learned my lesson with that. That was painful..
[03:37] <daftykins> _44trent: and what did you do prior to this... we can't read your mind
[03:38] <_44trent> I did this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1622905
[03:39] <_44trent> it shows the echo commands i used to *try* to connect to a connection
[03:39] <daftykins> _44trent: that's a forum thread with many posts and many commands
[03:39] <_44trent> i know that
[03:39] <holstein> _44trent: for you, it will be *much* quicker to just download a lubuntu iso. or xubuntu.. and fresh install that
[03:39] <_44trent> well then
[03:39] <_44trent> ok
[03:39] <daftykins> _44trent: so how do i know which bits you ran and which you didn't?
[03:39] <holstein> _44trent: plus, neither of us are sure how you broke what, just now
[03:40] <_44trent> For some reason it seems like i always get a lot of problems when i do this
[03:40] <holstein> _44trent: just save some time and hassle, and get the iso that matches what you want to be running more closely.. with wifi support
[03:40] <holstein> _44trent: this? when you do what? put a lot of random commands in? or use the mini iso? or what?
[03:41] <_44trent> i mean just mean like i get problems usually. last time there was something wrong with my video card driver
[03:41] <_44trent> oh well
[03:41] <daftykins> did you say you were limited to CD-Rs?
[03:41] <daftykins> you don't own a flash drive?
[03:42] <_44trent> yeah
[03:42] <_44trent> limited to cd-rs
[03:42] <daftykins> damn, even our African friends have flash drives
[03:42] <_44trent> wait i got in trouble for swearing on this channel once
[03:43] <_44trent> How did you get away with that?
[03:43] <daftykins> yeah i wouldn't do that if i were you
[03:43] <_44trent> I know that i got muted for doing it too much when i went nutso
[03:43] <daftykins> what, point out the commonality of USB media? ho-hum.
[03:44] <_44trent> Xubuntu is more than 700 megabites btw so lubuntu is my only option
[03:44] <ifellasleep> evening! (hope I'm on topic!)
[03:44] <_44trent> dang it
[03:44] <_44trent> i hope that doesn't get me in trouble.
[03:45] <Ben64> _44trent: what are you actually trying to accomplish here
[03:45] <daftykins> ifellasleep: hello again, got a question today?
[03:45] <_44trent> getting a gui on the mini thing
[03:45] <_44trent> but i can't get onto a network and i just broke something i think
[03:46] <Ben64> _44trent: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[03:46] <ifellasleep> I have plenty of questions but I havent exhausted my web browser's resources yet
[03:46] <_44trent> yes but----im not on a connection
[03:46] <Ben64> _44trent: then hook up ethernet
[03:46] <daftykins> Ben64: pure CLI mini install with wifi as the only option, user is having issues connecting to wireless following a guide, cabled isn't an option apparently...
[03:46] <_44trent> that didn't do anything either
[03:47] <daftykins> what didn't do anything?
[03:47] <ifellasleep> I would be more than happy to pick someones brain that has extensive knowledge of running world of warcraft on ubuntu 14.04
[03:47] <daftykins> connecting a network cable?
[03:47] <_44trent> yeh
[03:47] <daftykins> _44trent: you said you couldn't do that earlier
[03:47] <Ben64> _44trent: well thats much more likely to get working than wifi
[03:47] <holstein> _44trent: connecting wired is "the easy way" still..
[03:47] <Ben64> ifellasleep: you probably want #winehq
[03:47] <daftykins> _44trent: is it plugged into a router? run ifconfig -a again, does eth0 have an address? if not, "sudo dhclient eth0"
[03:47] <_44trent> I found the cord from looking around
[03:48] <_44trent> there is an extra connection on the router
[03:49] <_44trent> ok I triedd the modem like a big idiot
[03:49] <ifellasleep> Ben64: thank you. while we are speaking though, text on xchat(my current irc client) is flickering. it also seems to be fighting my typing cursor, like it is pushing it back as I type.
[03:49] <_44trent> what the...mei me error again?!
[03:49] <_44trent> I thought that command blacklisted it
[03:49] <daftykins> you thought wrong
[03:49] <_44trent> whoops
[03:50] <daftykins> _44trent: so you don't appear to have stated whether you've run the above command or not, how'd it go?
[03:51] <_44trent> It gave me a eth0, lo and wlan0
[03:51] <ifellasleep> gdm/lightdm doesnt seem to be functioning properly at all on my os
[03:51] <daftykins> _44trent: did eth0 have an IP address listed?
[03:52] <daftykins> _44trent: "inet addr:x.x.x.x"
[03:52] <_44trent> it has a bssid
[03:52] <daftykins> that would've been beside wlan0, not eth0
[03:52] <_44trent> Wait i need to plug the laptop into ethernet dont i
[03:53] <_44trent> I just remembered something that would work better
[03:53] <holstein> _44trent: thats what i consider being "the easy way"
[03:53] <_44trent> ok then so how exactly to i blacklist this mei_me error
[03:53] <holstein> _44trent: plug the unit into wired internet. and download what you like.. or, just get the iso for what you are tring to download now...
[03:53] <daftykins> you said you'd done that already
[03:53] <how-art-thou> how do I turn off daemons which start at boot?
[03:53] <_44trent> I thought i did and thought wrong
[03:54] <how-art-thou> and get a list of such? like what is whoopsie?
[03:54] <daftykins> _44trent: so, is the cable in? run "sudo dhclient eth0"
[03:54] <_44trent> the rmmod command- i thought it blacklisted the thingy
[03:54] <daftykins> _44trent: we're on a different topic right now, stop going back to the start
[03:54] <daftykins> FOCUS!
[03:55] <daftykins> the network cable is plugged in at both ends... we're running "sudo dhclient eth0"
[03:55] <_44trent> bbut im getting that stupid error again
[03:55] <daftykins> cycle between ctrl+alt+f2 up to ctrl+alt+f6, does it spam every screen?
[03:56] <Ben64> the error doesn't prevent you from typing things
[03:56] <ifellasleep> for real, daftykins, regardless of how knowledgeable you may be...is the epitome of why the technical world doesnt function with the real worth.
[03:56] <ifellasleep> world*
[03:56] <_44trent> it spams every screen
[03:56] <ifellasleep> google > than this room.
[03:56] <holstein> _44trent: its just a message..
[03:57] <daftykins> ifellasleep: you're 100% correct, PM'ing me without asking was totally not the reason i stopped replying.
[03:57] <_44trent> ok fine
[03:57] <daftykins> _44trent: you could repeat the rmmod command.
[03:57] <_44trent> well ok I need to plug the laptop back into the ethernet
[03:58] <daftykins> to my fellow helpers, please think twice about assisting ifellasleep in future, much trolling is to be received.
[03:58] <_44trent> It takes a minute im a paraplegic so stuff can take a little longer
[03:58] <_44trent> mostly because i can't walk back and forth between computers every 5 seconds
[03:58] <holstein> _44trent: take your time.. just let us know when you are connected..
[03:59] <_44trent> ok
[04:00] <daftykins> _44trent: oh and you can just hit cursor up repeatedly to run previous commands, to save time
[04:00] <daftykins> no need to fully re-type each time
[04:00] <holstein> !tab
[04:01]  * daftykins wonders what relevance that had
[04:01] <_44trent> ok im plugged in
[04:01] <Akiba_> anyone ready to program a desktop environment?
[04:01] <holstein> i thought we were just handing out handy time saving tips..
[04:02] <joelwhitehouse> Is xinerama supposed to work in trusty?
[04:02] <daftykins> mine was appropriate for the task at hand ;)
[04:02] <holstein> !cookie | daftykins
[04:02] <daftykins> d'aww
[04:02] <daftykins> holstein: let's run away together.
[04:03] <holstein> ;)
[04:04] <how-art-thou> how do I stop apache from starting on bootup?
[04:04] <_44trent> ok for some odd reason now its telling me i have the wrong password even though i dont
[04:04] <how-art-thou> in the ubuntu 14
[04:04] <daftykins> _44trent: caps lock on?
[04:04] <holstein> how-art-thou: you can just remove it..
[04:05] <_44trent> its just a number though
[04:05] <_44trent> i know i know bad security hygience
[04:07] <_44trent> ah found the problem nvm
[04:08] <daftykins> how-art-thou: try "sudo update-rc.d apache2 disable"
[04:09] <_44trent> when i put in dhclient eth0 it says file already downloaded
[04:09] <_44trent> should it work then
[04:09] <Akiba_> hey guys
[04:09] <daftykins> are you sure those are the words it used?
[04:09] <Akiba_> anyone help me with my ideas?
[04:10] <_44trent> ohno my laptop died in the middle of sudo apt-get update
[04:10] <_44trent> I forgot the charger -__-
[04:10] <_44trent> That won't do anything bad right?
[04:10] <daftykins> _44trent: that won't matter.
[04:11] <_44trent> brb have to use the bathroom
[04:11] <chrstphrchvz> _44trent, if it's just "apt-get update" you'll be ok, run "sudo apt-get update" again
[04:11] <sydney> ok,i have a question.I just upgraded to ubuntu 14.04,and when i resume from standby my wifi is slow to connect,then slow to use.Also the light on my wifi card doesn't light up.If i just reboot,it is very fast,and the light shows.
[04:12] <ecdhe> Anyone had any problems with nvidia-settings on trusty?
[04:12] <daftykins> ecdhe: you might need to be more specific
[04:12] <chrstphrchvz> _44trent, if it was "sudo apt-get upgrade" then you may need to run "sudo apt-get -f install" first…I think…
[04:13] <daftykins> chrstphrchvz: we were told what was run
[04:13] <ecdhe> daftykins, I save a resolution to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the resolution gets applied immediate, but it won't take after a reboot.
[04:14] <ecdhe> If I select xinerama, I can't get past the login screen at all until I delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:14] <ecdhe> It's like /etc/X11/xorg.conf gets ignored almost totally--but if xinerama is enable X breaks.
[04:14] <ecdhe> The log files are cryptic, haven't seen anything useful there.
[04:15] <ecdhe> So I wondered if someone else has had trouble.
[04:15] <chrstphrchvz> daftykins, just in case "update" got confused with "upgrade"
[04:15] <daftykins> ecdhe: people don't really use xorg.conf anymore, i was under the impression multi-display was auto
[04:16] <ecdhe> What tool would I use to configure it, daftykins?
[04:16] <ecdhe> Is nvidia-settings out?
[04:17] <daftykins> no, if you installed nvidia proprietary and it's loaded and in use, that's fine
[04:19] <sydney> AFK
[04:20] <AcidRain> hi, i have 3 additional disks in my linux install all ext3 partitions, they are all showing that they are NOT clean,
[04:20] <AcidRain> how do i fix this
[04:21] <daftykins> a good fsck i'd say
[04:21] <AcidRain> without destroying the data
[04:22] <daftykins> AcidRain: as long as they're unmounted, it should be fine, but you've got backups of course.
[04:22] <AcidRain> these are my backup drives
[04:25] <chrstphrchvz> sydney, do you know what you wifi hardware/chipset is? you may want to check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1310595
[04:27] <daftykins> AcidRain: umm... image them to other storage prior to trying? your call.
[04:27] <AcidRain> i have a drive with useless data i will test it on
[04:29] <chrstphrchvz> Is anybody here experienced with btrfs, specifically "btrfs device delete"? (nobody home on #btrfs today)
[04:30] <chrstphrchvz> AcidRain: I think using fsck with the -v and -n options will let you see if it would complete but without touching the disks (you would need to run it again without -n to actually repair anything). See http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck.ext3
[04:30] <AcidRain> thanks
[04:32] <ecdhe> daftykins, my ubuntu graphics on the new-voh drivers are terrible!
[04:33] <ecdhe> My graphics card is rendering a buffer at low res and scaling it up to the native resolution of the displays.
[04:33] <chrstphrchvz> AcidRain: if those drives aren't external you may want to check their SMART status with smartctl -a, and run -t long to make sure the disks are OK
[04:33] <ecdhe> I can't rotate my rotated monitor.
[04:33] <ecdhe> I can't make use of all three graphics cards.
[04:33] <AcidRain> the disks have a few bad sectors but nothign terrible, i already checked the smart
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs | chrstphrchvz maybe here
[04:33] <AcidRain> the check disk tool in the disk utility said they were dirty
[04:37] <chrstphrchvz> Ok, according to https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Using_Btrfs_with_Multiple_Devices#Removing_devices it would move off any data to other devices first, but when I tried it failed at an I/O error. Just got unlucky, I guess.
[04:38] <chrstphrchvz> Sort of like "pvmove" for LVM. Thanks though, lotuspsychje.
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !yay | chrstphrchvz
[04:39] <chrstphrchvz> Yup, how ironic
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> chrstphrchvz: what you use btfrs for exactly, what purpose?
[04:44] <ecdhe> Why does the "additional drivers" window take 2 minutes to figure out what driver is installed?
[04:45] <chrstphrchvz> ecdhe: see response here (?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/1229868
[04:46] <chrstphrchvz> lotuspsychje, mainly for experiment at this point, nothing production
[04:46] <daftykins> chrstphrchvz: my brain melted when i tried to read about btrfs
[04:47] <ecdhe> I've donated to canonical before during the download-an-iso process.  I was happy with ubuntu at the time but this graphics issues is terrible.
[04:47] <chrstphrchvz> lotuspsychje, particular example where I had a btrfs filesystem on one device, I added another device using "btrfs device add," then tried to remove first device using "btrfs device delete"
[04:47] <chrstphrchvz> ecdhe: what graphics card do you have?
[04:47] <ecdhe> I've got hundreds of dollars of hardware that I can barely use because of the driver situation.
[04:48] <ecdhe> chrstphrchvz, I've got 3x nvidia 9500-GT
[04:48] <ecdhe> Also, 2X nvidia quadro 48
[04:49] <ecdhe> ubuntu lucid handled the two quadro 480s andone 9500GT for a triple monitor situation.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: lucid server?
[04:50] <ecdhe> And I think precise-desktop did as well.  But trusty doesn't.
[04:50] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, no lucid-desktop.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: lucid desktop is eol no?
[04:51] <ecdhe> I've had 2x 30" monitors at 2560x1600 since lucid.
[04:51] <chrstphrchvz> !topic | ecdhe
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> !10.04 | ecdhe
[04:52] <ecdhe> Hey, I'm not running lucid!  I'm just saying that things that used to work in  lucid are broken in trusty.
[04:52] <daftykins> you might want to go back to 12.04
[04:52] <daftykins> those generations of card are pretty old
[04:53] <ecdhe> daftykins, does the linux kernel drop support for old hardware as it ages?
[04:53] <daftykins> Linux doesn't, proprietary graphics drivers do
[04:54] <ecdhe> daftykins, nvidia 173 is still available in trusty, just as it was in luc1d/precise.
[04:55] <ecdhe> One major issue I've got is that EDID information isn't detected on the third GPU.
[04:55] <ecdhe> I have swapped in different hardware, which is all working, but as soon as I add a third graphics card, trusty won't talk to it.
[04:55] <daftykins> what connection type does it use?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: did you clean install or upgrade?
[04:56] <chrstphrchvz> daftykins, are older graphics driver versions still listed in jockey (additional hardware) like in this example http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/ ?
[04:56] <ecdhe> PCIe gen2 with 16 lanes
[04:56] <daftykins> chrstphrchvz: no idea.
[04:56] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, clean install.
[04:56] <mhabibi> How can i download a apt-get package source code and install on another system(without internet)?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: with 3rd party drivers and updates during setup?
[04:56] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, yes.
[04:57] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, would that be an issue?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: if you enabled, you should be good, what drivers ubuntu installed by default?
[04:57] <daftykins> mhabibi: you don't need source code to install a package offline, just take the .deb's from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:58] <ecdhe> ubuntu didn't install my graphics drivers by default--it wants to use the neavou drivers.
[04:58] <ecdhe> I have to go to the "additional drivers" dialog to enable nvidia's driver.
[04:58] <daftykins> yes nouveau is default
[04:58] <daftykins> as it's open source
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: and your graphics arent good on nouveau?
[04:59] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, it takes nearly a quarter second for a keystroke to update on the screen.
[04:59] <chrstphrchvz> daftykins, ecdhe: there is also the pap:xorg-edgers that may fix stuff (it has for me) but is also likely to make things worse…
[04:59] <ecdhe> I've had spelling errors with you in this very conversation because I couldn't actually see what I had typed until after I sent it.
[04:59] <rexchou2012> Hello, please I ubuntu lamp environment mysql collapsed is what's wrong
[04:59] <rexchou2012> Hello, please I ubuntu lamp environment mysql collapsed is what's wrong
[04:59] <chrstphrchvz> *ppa
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: can you pastebin us lshw -C video to have a peek of your situation?
[05:00] <ecdhe> with nouveau, libre office was almost unusable.
[05:00] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, will do.
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: i had few boxes with older grafix cards, that doesnt like 14.04
[05:02] <daftykins> chrstphrchvz: perhaps that's more appropriate to tell the person asking help than me :)
[05:02] <ecdhe> http://pastebin.com/nMnp4x2N
[05:02] <chrstphrchvz> ecdhe: have you asked anyone over on #xorg?
[05:02] <chrstphrchvz> or #nvidia?
[05:03] <cfhowlett> rexchou2012 "collapsed" tells us nothing.  error messages and screen prints would help
[05:03] <ecdhe> chrstphrchvz, I haven't--- I figured since my setup *used* to work on ubuntu, that ubuntu was the reason for the change.
[05:04] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, see my pastebin above.  I trimmed my situation down to 2 9500GTs since I couldn't get the third one to do anything anyway.
[05:05] <daftykins> ecdhe: i would compare /var/log/Xorg.0.log when working and when not
[05:06] <ecdhe> daftykins, will do.  This may take a while!
[05:06] <chrstphrchvz> ecdhe: I'm inclined to think that components such as graphics drivers are updated specifically between Ubuntu releases just as you do, but Ubuntu is not entirely responsible for changes in functionality (free desktop for nouveau, Nvidia for proprietary).
[05:06] <chrstphrchvz> *freedesktop.org
[05:07] <ExtremeDevilz> hello guys Im wondering if is there anyway I can download a widget where I can get my system tempurate,speed,hard disk speed, gfx card tempurate etc
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> ExtremeDevilz: there are some nice indicators around
[05:07] <ecdhe> chrstphrchvz, I appreciate the culpability pointer.
[05:07] <cfhowlett> ExtremeDevilz yes you can download
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> ExtremeDevilz: apt-cache search indicator
[05:08] <ExtremeDevilz> any idea
[05:08] <Akiba_> anything better than synapse indicator + recoll?
[05:08] <ExtremeDevilz> Im new to Ubuntu
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-multiload | ExtremeDevilz i like this one
[05:08] <ExtremeDevilz> uh where do I get it?
[05:08] <chrstphrchvz> ExtremeDevilz, this is old but might be worth checking out: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/5-system-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu
[05:09] <ExtremeDevilz> Im new to Ubuntu
[05:09] <ExtremeDevilz> really like it, It seem faster then windows <3
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> ExtremeDevilz: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install indicator-multiload
[05:11] <ExtremeDevilz> Conky Seem nice
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !info conky | ExtremeDevilz same way sudo apt-get install conky
[05:12] <Akiba_> can someone help me with my ideas
[05:12] <cfhowlett> Akiba_ ideas?  no.  ubuntu technical support?  sure.
[05:13] <ExtremeDevilz> lotuspsychje, I cant find it
[05:13] <ExtremeDevilz> conky
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> ExtremeDevilz: did you read what i just typed above
[05:14] <ExtremeDevilz> I did install
[05:14] <ExtremeDevilz> sudo apt-get install conky
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> ExtremeDevilz: reboot or logout/login to start
[05:15] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, what video cards would you recommend that work well with trusty?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: well of all the boxes i installed trusty on, most work nicely...
[05:15] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, any multimonitor setups?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: some older cards failed to boot unity, and i needed lubuntu on them
[05:16] <ExtremeDevilz> it isnt here at all
[05:16] <daftykins> i think it's your 3+ screen situation that's more the problematic one, ecdhe
[05:16] <daftykins> i've heard a lot about those that go beyond 2 screens having issues
[05:16] <TJ-> ecdhe: I run 6 monitors on Trusty with KDE, using 3 Nvidia GPUs
[05:16] <ecdhe> TJ-, are they all an identical geometry?
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> ExtremeDevilz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[05:17] <TJ-> ecdhe: Mostly they're 1920x1200, but a couple are 1920x1080, and I've had some older 1280x1024 hooked up too
[05:18] <ecdhe> TJ-, one thing I've noticed is that the login screen will see my xorg.conf file perfectly--all of my monitors are placed correctly and at the right resolutions...  but when I try to login, the desktop hangs.
[05:18] <ecdhe> I've wondered if switching from gnome/unity would help my situation.
[05:19] <daftykins> ah, maybe that's more a session issue
[05:19] <daftykins> yeah try xubuntu maybe
[05:19] <TJ-> ecdhe: Using Unity or KDE? I switched away from Unity 2 release ago because it was horrendous for multi-monitor configs
[05:19] <TJ-> ecdhe: I've not re-tested Trusty-Unity since then though
[05:19] <ecdhe> TJ-, unity is what crashes on me...  I might try KDE.
[05:20] <Omnipotent> Anyone here is user of squid?
[05:20] <michaelmn> Could you please tell me if my messsages are visible?
[05:21] <TJ-> ecdhe: I find KDE very stable and usuable; there's a bug when you're running multiple X-screens with the greeter and lock-screens - I posted a proposed fix some time ago - but it was NACKed and there's not been a developer-written fix for that, so far
[05:21] <cfhowlett> michaelmn we see you
[05:21] <michaelmn> cfhowlett: thank you
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> !squid | Omnipotent
[05:21] <ecdhe> TJ-, bug as in it hangs? Or is easy to circumvent?
[05:22] <Omnipotent> lotuspsychje, actually I have a particular question, I am running Ubuntu on VPS and there is no way (as far as I know) I can add another interface... eth1 etc... so How do I do the transparent proxy thing?
[05:22] <chrstphrchvz> Omnipotent: not recently. What about it?
[05:22] <TJ-> ecdhe: It's relatively minor though... the greeters/lock-screens for each X screen are all drawn on screen 0 ... so applications remain visible when the screen is locked
[05:22] <Omnipotent> chrstphrchvz, that
[05:22] <chrstphrchvz> sorry
[05:23] <TJ-> ecdhe: I plan on proposing a different fix at some point when I can be bothered to dig into the code again :)
[05:23] <Omnipotent> chrstphrchvz, And another question would be, I have been assigned public ip statically directly by the provider, how can I create a second interface and put it in a lan?
[05:23] <Omnipotent> chrstphrchvz, for?
[05:23] <TJ-> Omnipotent: If it is IPv4, you can add an alias interface, assuming additional IP addresses
[05:24] <Omnipotent> TJ-, It is IPv4 ... but the eth0 has a public ip... and I just have single ip from VPS provider...
[05:24] <Omnipotent> I somehow did it with vmnet with last provider, I just don't recall how.
[05:25] <daftykins> vmnet... those are vmware interfaces
[05:25] <chrstphrchvz> Omnipotent, for not paying attention. I never managed squid "hands-on" if you will (without gui). I had used something called untangle; zentyal would provide similar functionality…
[05:25] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Well, you don't need an additional IP address to do transparent proxying; I have squid on 3128, which is redirected to via a netfilters rule
[05:27] <Omnipotent> TJ-, Well, all the solutions I read on various websites... tell me to add an eth1 and get both of them in lan, because eth0 has local ip in range <IP_ADDRESS> or something and you give 1.101 to eth1
[05:27] <Omnipotent> then when they are in lan, you redirect the requests using iptables
[05:27] <chrstphrchvz> Omnipotent, I think one way is by somehow bridging the additional interface (if you want the two to basically be on a switch with each other/not separate LANs). Would not be able to tell you how.
[05:28] <Omnipotent> But in my case, eth0 is configured by the provider with the static public ip of mine, and if I change it, I will probably be screwed.
[05:30] <chrstphrchvz> Omnipotent, There's a #squid channel you might want to check out (I think you have quite an interesting question actually)
[05:30] <Omnipotent> Its dead.
[05:31] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Forget about additional interfaces. What you need is simply to have an iptables rule that intercepts packets being added to the netfilters queues/tables and redirect them to localhost:3128 (or where-ever squid is listening)
[05:34] <TJ-> Omnipotent: As you seem to want to be proxying on the same host as the connections are initiated from, you'll need to add rules to the OUTPUT table, and use the (process) owner module so as not to redirect traffic that squid itself sends out, plus possibly a rule to not redirect anything destined for localhost.
[05:35] <Omnipotent> TJ-, I don't quite follow your first statement yet, My squid is listening on 8888 and has basic ncsa auth
[05:36] <Omnipotent> Do you mean to say, I should redirect request at some OTHER port for eg. 5555 to 8888 ? and then instruct my browser to send requests at 5555 instead of 8888 ?
[05:36] <Omnipotent> so any requests reaching 5555 will be redirected to 8888 by iptables and then proxy which is running on 8888 will do its work?
[05:36] <backbox> Ping !
[05:36] <Omnipotent> backbox, Pong?
[05:37] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Assuming you've configured squid to do "transparent", then you'd want netfilters OUTPUT table rules firstly to intercept all outgoing port 80 connections to squid: "iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8888". At that point squid itself would get into an endless loop though since its own outgoing packets would be redirected back to itself, so then you have to ignore packets from squid itself, using the 'owner' module.
[05:37] <backbox> i'm a newbie
[05:37] <backbox> give me tutorial in indonesian language :D
[05:38] <cfhowlett> !indonesian | backbox and you're welcome
[05:38] <backbox> okey thank u
[05:38] <backbox> Terima kasih
[05:39] <Omnipotent> TJ-, I am sorry, but I do not understand the job of port 80 here
[05:39] <Omnipotent> could you elaborate a bit?
[05:39] <TJ-> Omnipotent: You'd want the squid-specific rule above (have precedence); something like: "iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m owner --uid-owner squid -j ACCEPT " (assuming "squid" is the process owner of squid-cache - change that as necessary)
[05:40] <TJ-> Omnipotent: You said you want a transparent proxy, yes?
[05:40] <Omnipotent> TJ-, yes
[05:40] <Omnipotent> TJ-, as far as I can understand, My Browser is currently sending requests to port 8888 of remote VPS where the squid is listening on 8888
[05:40] <TJ-> Omnipotent: So that infers that outgoing HTTP traffic is destined for port 80 of the external web-server
[05:40] <Omnipotent> Ah
[05:41] <backbox> Follow me @labibnayu for give me next tutor haks
[05:41] <TJ-> Omnipotent: From your statement I don't think you want a transparent proxy, sounds like you are just trying to use a Virtual Machine as a regular HTTP proxy
[05:41] <cfhowlett> backbox if you have an ubuntu support question ask.  no spamming this channel
[05:42] <Omnipotent> TJ-, right now I am, yes, But I want it as transperent.
[05:42] <TJ-> Omnipotent: What do you mean by 'transparent' ?
[05:43] <Omnipotent> TJ- http://ifconfig.me/  should not show X-Forwarded-For <my real ip>
[05:43] <TJ-> Omnipotent: That isn't transparent proxying
[05:43] <Omnipotent> Eh?
[05:44] <Omnipotent> Transparent proxying means the receiver of the request should not see that we are  connected through a proxy
[05:44] <Omnipotent> If its not transparent proxying... what do you call it?
[05:44] <backbox> do ngomong opo
[05:45] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Not exactly; transparent proxying is a particular scenario whereby the *client* cannot tell they are using a proxy server
[05:45] <Omnipotent> Oh.
[05:45] <TJ-> Omnipotent: but for your purposes, see http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/forwarded_for/
[05:45] <cfhowlett> backbox english only in this channel.
[05:45] <Omnipotent> TJ- I am sorry for troubling you for this long with wrong word then
[05:45] <Omnipotent> really sorry.
[05:45] <backbox> cfhowlett, just english?
[05:45] <TJ-> Omnipotent: In particular, this bit: "If set to "delete", Squid will delete the entire X-Forwarded-For header."
[05:46] <Xombie-Boss> //join #debian
[05:46] <Omnipotent> Gotcha
[05:46] <cfhowlett> backbox yep.
[05:46] <Xombie-Boss> sorry
[05:46] <Xombie-Boss> didnt mean to do that
[05:46] <TJ-> Omnipotent: No need to apologise, this is how we all learn :)
[05:46] <Vivekananda> wonder what is wrong with my lenovo . I know this is not a laptop hardware channel can someone direct me to one ?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> !english | backbox
[05:46] <backbox> cfhowlett, where do u from?
[05:46] <Omnipotent> I had an idea that, "Transparent" is... transparent because the destination doesn't know we are we :D
[05:46] <Omnipotent> Its TRANSPARENT :P
[05:46] <cfhowlett> backbox ask your #UBUNTU support questions
[05:47] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda lenovo has a support forum IIRC
[05:47] <backbox> microssh is?
[05:47] <Vivekananda> was hoping to chat with someone here cfhowlett
[05:47] <Omnipotent> cfhowlett, For a second there I was wondering "what the hell is Vivekananda lenovo"
[05:48] <TJ-> Omnipotent: I agree, the description is all context-sensitive ... you've just learned the system-administrators context :)
[05:48] <Omnipotent> did Chinese merge with Indians to create a company joint venture or something >_>
[05:48] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda #laptop
[05:48] <Omnipotent> TJ-, Aye :D
[05:49] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: lemme try that
[05:49] <Omnipotent> TJ-, Well, For the transparent we were talking earlier, the "real" one... where client does not know they are connected to proxy... well, it must be usually done on local scale, right?
[05:50] <Omnipotent> I mean, all your web requests going through central machine in LAN to filter them etc?
[05:50] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: there  is no such channel. anyways , dont wish to bug ppl with off topic
[05:50] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda use #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:50] <daftykins> Vivekananda: what's going on exactly?
[05:51] <Vivekananda> daftykins: plz come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:52] <daftykins> that's one place i don't go, sadly
[05:52] <backbox> adakah orang indonesia?
[05:52] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Yes, at the router. But it can also be done for all local processes too, which is what I *thought* you wanted - have the proxy act for all processes on the VPS that tried to make external connections to port 80 ... often useful to monitor/control potentially malicious software, or for honeypots, etc.
[05:58] <Omnipotent> TJ-, ah actually, that could be useful.
[05:58] <Omnipotent> now that you mention it..
[05:59] <Omnipotent> But I could also monitor port 80 connections using iftop or something like that
[05:59] <ravi_> or wireshark
[05:59] <Omnipotent> If I have GUI.. sure
[06:00] <TJ-> Omnipotent: That's hardly practical though, you have to watch it every millisecond and you only see connections once they have started. The purpose of putting a proxy in the loop is it can allow/deny based on both the source process and the destination, and use quite complex rules to decide what to do
[06:01] <Omnipotent> Gotcha
[06:15] <hdtune2k> hi
[06:15] <daftykins> greetings
[06:16] <hdtune2k> greeting
[06:25] <SierraAR> Running Ubuntu 12.04.4 64-bit, everytime I log in I see this error pop up, but it seems to be having no issues with displaying at my chosen resolution of 1600x900: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l55u5ru42sfo85m/Ubuntu%20Desktop-2014-06-20-23-24-26.png
[06:26] <hdt2k> greetingx
[06:26] <hdt2k> why the /etc/init.d can not write?
[06:27] <hdt2k> the / is rw
[06:27] <Ben64> hdt2k: explain more what you're talking about
[06:28] <hdt2k> i want to add some files to /etc/init.d but is seems can not be written files
[06:29] <hdt2k> im poor in linux please help me
[06:29] <Ben64> hdt2k: well you need root permissions to write to there
[06:29] <hdt2k> yes im root
[06:30] <hdt2k> im trying again
[06:30] <_C3r34l_K1ll3r> Dont worry,no body was born with linux knowledge :-)
[06:30] <hdt2k> haha thx
[06:31] <hdt2k> i did it , i successfully copied a file to init.d as root access
[06:31] <hdt2k> thanku
[06:50] <hunt_> is it possible to exhaust all the uuids in uuidgen?
[06:50] <hunt_> and what happens when you do
[06:51] <somsip> hunt_: theoretically; they collide
[06:51] <hunt_> if i wrote a script that generated all the uuids, that wouldnt presumably take too long, wouldit?
[06:51] <somsip> hunt_: if you have the math to figure out how many you need to generate, you already know the answer to that
[06:52] <hunt_> 3^34 uuids, beacuse each uuid is a 128 bit value
[06:52] <hunt_> e*
[06:52] <hunt_> e^34
[06:52] <hunt_> er 38
[06:52] <hunt_> so what makes uuids reliable if they can be exhausted so quickly
[06:53] <hunt_> theyre supposed to be unique accross time and space
[06:53] <somsip> hunt_: your understanding is wrong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier
[06:55] <hunt_> so then its just a 128 bit random number?
[06:55] <somsip> hunt_: the link says it all, and this is off topic so end of thread for me
[06:56] <hunt_> somsip: the whole conversation is off topic?
[06:56] <somsip> !topic | hunt_
[06:57] <hunt_> somsip: i was just wo ndering if you meant the new question or the conversation in the first place
[06:57] <somsip> hunt_: actually, that wasn't very helpful. This is the ubuntu support channel. uuids are a general subject and are nothing to do with ubuntu support. Hence, offtopic
[07:08] <e^0> is it possible that if a user don't have sudo access but still he can install the software ?
[07:10] <daftykins> e^0: they could download and run programs in their /home maybe
[07:11] <e^0> daftykins: from ubuntu software center or through cli ?
[07:11] <daftykins> well, not really either
[07:12] <Fyodorovna> e^0, There are apps not in the repos that can be run in home, no root access is all and not needed.
[07:13] <e^0> Fyodorovna: for example a persone needs to install conky but he doesn't have sudo rights than ?
[07:14] <Fyodorovna> e^0, Not sure on conky you would have to investigate, for example you can download firefox and run it in home, there are lots really.
[07:14] <e^0> Fyodorovna: ok getting your point
[07:14] <Fyodorovna> conky is just a script, probably so
[07:15] <TJ-> e^0: If you're able to download the packages (.deb files) and their dependencies, you can extract their files manually and run them from the user home directory, but some may need other configuration or resources to be in read-only (system) locations.
[07:20] <skulltower> I created a .desktop file with terminal=true, but it opens my application in the wrong terminal. How can i change the default terminal?
[07:26] <Georg> hi guys. I try to install crosslinux on Ubuntu 12.04 64bit but I have problems to with make. make tries to install fakeroot even if it is already installed from the packages. anyhow, I have some problems with in some header files. I guess some libraries are missing but I don't know which ones. in libfakeroot.c (included in tha crosslinux package) I get the message "wrapped.h:126:27: error: unknown type name 'cap_user_header_t'". I googled already, but I cann
[07:26] <Georg> ot solve my problem. Could anybody help me please?
[07:27] <Georg> here is the complete fakeroot-make.log-file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7678614/
[07:30] <raj25> Could somebody help me with the correct order of execution of bash config files?
[07:30] <aleksandr> hello
[07:30] <raj25> Hey
[07:31] <aleksandr> how are you? where are you from?
[07:32] <raj25> Having problems with bash config and env variables
[07:32] <Fyodorovna> aleksandr, That is way off topic and a personal question, this is support.
[07:32] <aleksandr> oh, sorry))))
[07:33] <aleksandr> You mean, its support Ubuntu for any question?
[07:34] <raj25> Anyone read my que?
[07:34] <helmut_> hi
[07:34] <Fyodorovna> !topic | aleksandr
[07:36]  * raj25 waiting for an answer
[07:37] <TexasRitter> A beautiful good morning. When I click a file, I can not choose whether it should be started as a program. In the options is "run as application" set.
[07:40] <TexasRitter> Guten Morgen.  Es öffnet sich sofort im Texteditor. Habe das bei allen Dateien. Woran kann das liegen?
[07:43] <daftykins> TexasRitter: it's an english only channel in here, there's #ubuntu-de though.
[07:44] <TexasRitter> Ah okay, nice. Thank you sir.
[07:44] <daftykins> *tips hat*
[07:45] <JohnQ> Anyone know a way to test if DRI (direct rendering) is working?    It's not working for me in MythTV, but Im not sure how to test it out more generally.  glxinfo says "direct rendering: Yes", but Im not sure how authoritative that it.
[07:46] <JohnQ> *is
[07:48] <JohnQ> raj: What do you mean by "correct order of execution of bash config files"? I'm not sure what you're asking.... but I can probably help if you explain the problem.
[07:50] <daftykins> JohnQ: that should be enough, also /var/log/Xorg.0.log would probably mention DRI once or twice
[07:52] <JohnQ> indeed.  Lots of "DRI2" and "DRI3" etc... in the logs. None of it looks like errors to mu untrained eye.  Hmm
[07:54] <Georg> hi guys. I try to install crosslinux on Ubuntu 12.04 64bit but I have problems to with make. make tries to install fakeroot even if it is already installed from the packages. anyhow, I have some problems with in some header files. I guess some libraries are missing but I don't know which ones. in libfakeroot.c (included in tha crosslinux package) I get the message "wrapped.h:126:27: error: unknown type name 'cap_user_header_t'". I googled already, but I cann
[07:54] <Georg> ot solve my problem. Could anybody help me please?
[07:54] <Georg> here is the complete fakeroot-make.log-file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7678614/
[07:55] <JohnQ> Are there any /dev/ files that are assiciated with DRI?  Maybe it's a permissions issue or something.
[08:00] <TJ-> JohnQ: Is this for the frontend or backend?
[08:02] <Georg> Is anybody here who can help me to solve the make-Problem with the (maybe) missing libraries?
[08:03] <Kamuela> Started randomly having problems with Chrome and user profiles
[08:03] <JohnQ> TJ-: frontend
[08:03] <TJ-> Georg: Looks like you're missing some -dev header packages and/or libraries that the package depends on. Check the output of the "./configure" script, if the package has one
[08:05] <TJ-> JohnQ: What graphics card make/model, which Ubuntu release?
[08:05] <JohnQ> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] [10de:0240] (rev a2)
[08:05] <JohnQ> Linux spyro 3.13.0-29-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 4 21:00:20 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:07] <Georg> TJ-: Thx, I'll have a look
[08:07] <JohnQ> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[08:10] <Georg> TJ-: here is the output of configure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7678779/
[08:11] <Georg> TJ-: do you think I should try to install all things which are marked as "...no"?
[08:13] <Guido1> hello, I want to install tight vnc. I downloaded it from the tight vnc page, but don't know how to install it
[08:13] <Georg> it confuses me....
[08:15] <Guido1> how can i install it?
[08:15] <Kamuela> OK, completely deleted the chromium and google-chrome folders in ~/.config and reset everything manually. works fine now. thankfully
[08:15] <user123321> can enabling hardware virtualization and running multile VM's of Ubuntu/Ubuntu flavors in an Ubuntu/Ubuntu flavor OS could access my Windows OS which has been installed as a dual boot OS? I think I've heard something about hardware virtualization could grant privilege level beyond the OS?
[08:15] <user123321> Could it damage my Windows OS?
[08:17] <JohnQ> Interesting... it seems that /dev/dri/card0 is missing..
[08:39] <Divya_karwal> hello
[08:42] <scienceguy> Hello, could somebody help me with something very simple?
[08:43] <Divya_karwal> @scienceguy: what is ur problem???
[08:44] <scienceguy> Divya_karwal: I installed a package, but I don't know how to open the gui for it: https://wiki.fysik.dtu.dk/ase/overview.html
[08:46] <Divya_karwal> @scienceguy: what type of package , can give elaborate it???
[08:47] <scienceguy> Divya_karwal: It's a program to run quantum mechanical calculations.... I ran the "test" calculations and they ran OK, which means it is installed. But I don't know how to access the GUI.
[08:47] <TJ-> scienceguy: see https://wiki.fysik.dtu.dk/ase/ase/gui/basics.html
[08:48] <scienceguy> TJ-: I am seriously lost
[08:49] <Ben64> scienceguy: you'll have to look through the documentation for the program
[08:50] <scienceguy> I have an idea...
[08:50] <Divya_karwal> @science guy: go to  dash and search for it..
[08:52] <geirha> scienceguy: I take it you didn't install it via the software center / apt-get  then?
[08:53] <scienceguy> OK. I ran the "test" files again and it opened the window that is the GUI. How do I make a link to it from the desktop?
[08:53] <Divya_karwal> how to install  android 4.4 kitkat in nokia c1-01
[08:53] <Divya_karwal> ??
[08:53] <scienceguy> geirha: It's open right now, but I don't know how to access it when it is not open
[08:55] <geirha> scienceguy: that depends on the answer of my question
[08:56] <scienceguy> geirha: I used apt-get for a couple of things
[08:56] <antonio_> Can't get a wired connection with my laptop
[08:56] <antonio_> Not sure what to do...I used to be able to get a wired connection...
[08:56] <scienceguy> sudo apt-get install python-ase
[08:57] <scienceguy> I think that was it
[08:57] <d-m-d> hola alguien que me ayude y hable español por favor
[08:58] <histo> !es | d-m-d
[08:59] <geirha> scienceguy: In that case, here's the files it installs: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/python-ase/filelist
[09:00] <geirha> scienceguy: there's no .desktop-files installed, which means there's no "icon to click". Are you sure it has a gui?
[09:00] <TJ-> geirha: Yes it does (ase-gui) - Fedora added a .desktop for it but I can't locate its test right now
[09:00] <scienceguy> geirha: I have the gui open right now, but I don't know how to access it normally. The test calculations opened it
[09:01] <hipitihop> I'd like to add an application to "open with" menu, it' snot installed, just in a subfolder in my homdrive, it happens to be sublime editor, can someone point me at good dock to do so, I'm on 12.04
[09:01] <Guido1> hello, I want to install tight vnc. I downloaded it from the tight vnc page, but don't know how to install it. How can I install it?
[09:02] <antonio_> Can't get a wired connection with my laptop...Not sure what to do...I used to be able to get a wired connection...
[09:02] <hipitihop> Guido, is it a deb package you downloaded ?
[09:02] <trijntje> hipitihop: alacarte
[09:02] <scienceguy> Also, thanks everyone that is helping... this is how science gets done!
[09:02] <meek_geek> can we completely wipe mac os from a mbp mid 2011 and install ubuntu ?
[09:03] <geirha> scienceguy: maybe the gui was installed by a separate package?
[09:03] <hipitihop> Guido1, is it a deb package you downloaded ?
[09:04] <scienceguy> geirha: I don't know
[09:05] <Guido1> hipitihop: tar.bz2
[09:05] <d-m-d> good English need help try esque not much about linux just decided to change windows to linux my question is how can I format my usb please
[09:05] <TJ-> scienceguy: The issue is the package is pure Python, and cross-platform. It doesn't contain a FreeDesktop .desktop specification file (which tells desktop managers how to start the application). Fedora apparently add one to their packaging of the application, but Debian/Ubuntu don't. You can create one manually.
[09:05] <Georg> d-m-d: I would suggest the program "gparted"
[09:05] <antonio_> anyone????
[09:06] <scienceguy> TJ-: How can I create one?
[09:06] <antonio_> Can't get a wired connection with my laptop...Not sure what to do...I used to be able to get a wired connection...
[09:06] <faheyn> anyone ever see where xscreensaver crashes after hitting the enter key 3 times..
[09:06] <Guest67679> Bom dia
[09:06] <hipitihop> trijntje, thanks just installe dit and looking, still trying to find "open with" menu but I'm sure it's there somewhere
[09:07] <d-m-d> ok thank you very much
[09:07] <Georg> you're welcome
[09:07] <Guido1> hipitihop: i could also download Tar+Gzip - http://www.tightvnc.com/download-old.php
[09:07] <hipitihop> Guido1, does this help ?  not sure what version you are on http://www.hiddentao.com/archives/2013/09/17/setting-up-tightvnc-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[09:08] <TJ-> scienceguy: bear with me, I'm working on one
[09:08] <scienceguy> TJ-: Thank you so much!
[09:08] <Paul_-> hi folks, I need a version of objcopy that can do efi, apparently 14.04 cannot, I want to know how to go about this please
[09:09] <meek_geek> is anyone using ubuntu on mbp ? is it possible to wipeout mac os and use ubuntu fully ?
[09:09] <Guido1> hipitihop: i will try
[09:09] <hipitihop> Guido1, you usually try and use software centre, synaptic or apt-get and use proper packages, sometimes you need to add a PPA
[09:10] <hipitihop> Guido1, one good reason for using those is that the package system then knows about your app and can update when needed etc
[09:10] <Guido1> hipitihop: yes, I'm used to softawre center and apt-get (if I know the name)
[09:11] <Guido1> hipitihop: but I don't only want the server. I also want the vewer. do you know how i have to modefy the commants?
[09:11] <antonio_> Can't get a wired connection with my laptop...Not sure what to do...I used to be able to get a wired connection...
[09:12] <Akiba_> hey guys
[09:12] <Akiba_> is there a way of me installing certain apps before the ubuntu installer starts?
[09:12] <Paul_-> Akiba, UEFI
[09:13] <hipitihop> Guido1, I don't specifically, but looks like xtightvncviewer looks the go ? form herE: http://marc-abramowitz.com/archives/2006/02/17/tightvnc-on-ubuntu/
[09:14] <antonio_> I have no wired connection (eth0/1/etc) available...what can I do?
[09:14] <hipitihop> Guido1, good luck, have to run
[09:14] <Paul_-> hi folks, I need a version of objcopy that can do efi, apparently 14.04 cannot, I want to know how to go about this please
[09:14] <Guido1> hipitihop: thanks
[09:16] <Akiba_> how do you install packages into debian, before you start the debian installer
[09:16] <Akiba_> i want to install cairo-dock and gobohide into ubuntu before running the installer
[09:16] <Akiba_> and i meant ubuntu not debian
[09:17] <antonio_> I have no wired connection (eth0/1/etc) available...what can I do?
[09:18] <tomreyn> you can use a wireless connection, tether, or none.
[09:18] <tomreyn> (i may lack context since i just joined)
[09:18] <scienceguy> antonio_: Have you tested the ethernet cable?
[09:19] <antonio_> yes...
[09:19] <antonio_> I've tried two different cables...
[09:19] <scienceguy> Does the wall outlet have an internet connection?
[09:20] <antonio_> scienceguy: yes...going from the modem...
[09:20] <tomreyn> what are you connecting to what? do the lights next to the endpoints of your connection (the NICs on both ends) light up?
[09:20] <antonio_> scienceguy: when I do ifconfig its not showing any kind of ethernet devices
[09:20] <scienceguy> :/
[09:21] <JohnQ> try:   ifconfig -a
[09:21] <antonio_> nothing
[09:21] <tomreyn> lspci -knnv | grep Eth
[09:22] <antonio_> When I do sudo ifconfig eth0 up I get   "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[09:22] <tomreyn> sounds like you may be lacking some drivers
[09:23] <scienceguy> TJ-: I got it!
[09:23] <TJ-> scienceguy: OK, *finally* found the current .desktop file used by Fedora. You can copy it's contents to a new file "/usr/local/share/applications/ase-gui.desktop", from http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/python-ase.git/tree/ase-gui.desktop?id=933235e0ebccd2a83602a6b294c3800c2934df24
[09:23] <antonio_> tomreyn: know of a quick and easy way to get them?
[09:24] <tomreyn> antonio_: first you need to find out what hardware you have there
[09:24] <TJ-> antonio_: Are you using Ubuntu Trusty ?
[09:25] <Fly80> hello
[09:25] <tomreyn> antonio_: run this, and copy and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ : sudo lspci -knnv | grep -A 16 Ethernet
[09:25] <antonio_> 12:10
[09:26] <tomreyn> antonio_: when you pasted it there, and submitted it, tell us the URL (internet address) you end up on. ie. copy the internet address from your browser after posting.
[09:26] <scienceguy> quick question: I got the code to open the GUI, how do I make an icon that will run it in the terminal when I click it?
[09:27] <Fly80> i'm using ubuntu 14.04 and i have a problem with mouse/touchpad configuration.  What I would like to do is to have my mouse with a left-handed configuration (default) while the touchpad has right-handed configuration
[09:27] <Fly80> this is because the touchpad is not working properly when the confguration is left-handed
[09:27] <antonio_> tomreyn: it didn't do anything
[09:28] <antonio_> I'm running 12.10 by the way
[09:28] <tomreyn> antonio_: you will have mistyped then. check again.
[09:28] <antonio_> type this?
[09:28] <antonio_> sudo lspci -knnv | grep -A 16 Ethernet
[09:29] <tomreyn> antonio_: right, into your terminal window
[09:29] <antonio_> I did and nothing happened
[09:29] <TJ-> tomreyn: not necessarily; antonio_'s system might not use the word "Ethernet" in the output. antonio_ try this instead: "lspci -nnv | egrep -i 'net|wire' "
[09:30] <tomreyn> okay, then try this instead: sudo lspci -knnv | grep -A 16 -i eth
[09:30] <tomreyn> or TJ's could work, too.
[09:30] <antonio_> still nothing
[09:30] <TJ-> antonio_: Errr... what make/model of PC is it?
[09:30] <kostkon> antonio_, btw, your version is not supported anymore. You should consider upgrading to 14.04
[09:30] <tomreyn> then just do this: sudo lspci -knnv
[09:30] <antonio_> tj's worked
[09:30] <TJ-> kostkon: Yes... he might, if he has a network connection! :)
[09:31] <TJ-> antonio_: can you pastebin the output please?
[09:32] <antonio_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7679105/
[09:32] <JohnQ> Thats a wifi card.
[09:32] <tomreyn> so you only have a wireless card
[09:33] <tomreyn> no ethernet one
[09:33] <antonio_> oh...
[09:33] <JohnQ> Possibly disabled in your bios?
[09:33] <tomreyn> or it was not detected for some reason, which is rare
[09:33] <antonio_> am I supposed to have a phone looking plug in my laptop?
[09:33] <TJ-> antonio_: Is it a laptop/notebook? what make/model ?
[09:34] <antonio_> haha..just kidding..I'm not a complete idiot ;)  There is an ethernet jack...I might try to see if its disabled in the bios..never thought about that
[09:34] <tomreyn> you might be mixing up RJ-45 (ethernet) and RJ-25 (phone line) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Rjxx.jpg
[09:35] <antonio_> tomreyn: I know what an rj45 cable is..went to school for networking years ago...
[09:35] <TJ-> antonio_: If it's an older model with fast ethernet, it may be one that switches between the WiFi and Ethernet chipsets so only one is available at once... does it have a "wifi switcher" button?
[09:35] <tomreyn> ok
[09:35] <antonio_> besides...who the hell still has landlines? ;)
[09:35]  * tomreyn has
[09:36] <antonio_> TJ-: hmm..yes...when I click the f2 button the wifi switches off
[09:36] <TJ-> Anyone with an xDSL device
[09:36] <tomreyn> it's also an awesome fallback in times of crisis
[09:36] <TJ-> antonio_: OK, with it *off* do the command I gave you again... "lspci -knn | egrep -i '(net|wire)'  "
[09:36] <antonio_> ok brb
[09:37] <JohnQ> Anyone have any ideas for how to make /dev/dri/card0 show up?
[09:37] <TJ-> antonio_: if there's a switcher then this time you should see the ethernet wired device listed
[09:37] <tomreyn> JohnQ: load a mesa + DRI based driver which supports your hardware
[09:38] <JohnQ> Ive got the nvidia driver installed... it claims to support DRI... but no /dev/
[09:38] <tomreyn> JohnQ: those are the open source (non proprietary) drivers.
[09:38] <tomreyn> you'd want nouveau then
[09:38] <antonio_> back
[09:38] <antonio_> here is what I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/7679137/
[09:38] <antonio_> Think its the same thing
[09:39] <JohnQ> hmmmm nouveau.   Ok ... looking into that.
[09:40] <antonio_> brb..checking bios
[09:40] <JohnQ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7679144/
[09:40] <tomreyn> antonio_: i guess the best way forward is you try to get internet through the wireless interface, then upgrade to a supported Ubuntu version, then see whether your ethernet is still undetected.
[09:41] <tomreyn> JohnQ: http://askubuntu.com/questions/264532/revert-back-to-nouveau-drivers
[09:41] <TJ-> tomreyn: if antonio_ typed the command I gave him (which included "-k") then there's no kernel module loaded for that device
[09:42] <scienceguy> Guys I am getting a problem: I based a bash file, but it opens in gedit instead of the terminal. What to do??
[09:42] <scienceguy> correction: a shell script
[09:42] <cjae> is usb 3 really not supported in vbox?
[09:43] <geirha> scienceguy: make sure the very first line of the script reads   #!/usr/bin/env bash    and that the file has the executable bit set (in the permissions tab)
[09:43] <Kartagis> scienceguy: open it in the terminal
[09:43] <Kartagis> scienceguy: ie. nano script.sh
[09:43] <Kartagis> or vim
[09:43] <tomreyn> TJ-: how would the output differ if there was a driver loaded?
[09:44] <Kartagis> (which is way better, really)
[09:44] <scienceguy> first line is: !/usr/bin/env bash
[09:44] <khaitanya> scienceguy: chmod a+x filename
[09:44] <scienceguy> good?
[09:44] <TJ-> tomreyn: The last line would say "Kernel driver in use: ..."
  I know Unity had/has that issue
[09:52]  * m1dnight__ is going to give vinagre a try
[09:52] <m1dnight__> thank you guys
[09:52] <scienceguy> Everytime I open it it just opens in gedit
[09:53] <antonio_> my wlan (eth I'm assuming) wasn't disabled in bios...there were 3 options...1 disabled...2 wlan with wifi...and 3...wifi wlan with pxe I think
[09:53] <scienceguy> TJ-: be back soon!
[09:53] <Kartagis> m1dnight__: sorry, vinagre is the client and vino is the server
[09:53] <Kartagis> m1dnight__: so, try vino
[09:53] <TJ-> scienceguy: You don't open the file directly... it teaches the DM where to find programs, you can simply type "ase-gui" in thw dash and it should then pick up the application details from that file
[09:53] <happy_watermelon> m1dnight__: you wan to get ovened :)
[09:53] <geirha> scienceguy: That's python syntax. You can't use that in bash.   It does not seem to have an xorg.conf ... is that normal?
[10:01] <antonio_> tj-: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7679208/
[10:01] <Ben64> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04
[10:01] <Ben64> it'd be better at this point to install 14.04 fresh
[10:02] <varunendra> antonio_, what is the problem? Somebody said 'wireless', so... ;p
[10:02] <geirha> Ben64: it's a special case because of the change from 18 month to 9 month support
[10:03] <geirha> so 12.10 -> 13.10 *is* supported
[10:03] <tomreyn> JohnQ: the open driver may not perform as well as the proprietary one. but that's not what you had asked about. and it's normal not to have an xorg.conf, yes. it is constructed dynamically by the open driver when X starts up.
[10:03] <JohnQ> I see
[10:03] <JohnQ> Hmm
[10:04] <Ben64> geirha: i can't find anything supporting that
[10:04] <TJ-> antonio_: You seem to be missing "09:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller [11ab:4354] (rev 13)"
[10:04] <JohnQ> So, none of the nvidia drivers will create a /dev/dri/ device?
[10:04] <antonio_> hmm...any idea on how to get that?
[10:04] <TJ-> JohnQ: Yes, the nvidia driver does create /dev/dri/cardX/ nodes
[10:05] <geirha> Ben64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[10:05] <tomreyn> JohnQ: the one you have now did not? then i assume you are actually running the vesa / fallback driver, not the nouveau one. your Xorg.*.log will tell.
[10:05] <antonio_> who is that watermelon clown?  keeps on pming me
[10:05] <cfhowlett> antonio_ a clown he is.  ignore.
[10:05] <antonio_> and no one has banned him yet?
[10:05] <JohnQ> tomreyn: the nouveau one did, but playback is not watchable...
[10:05] <TJ-> antonio_: "lspci" lists what the kernel discovers during hardware probing, so it could be the device has failed, if it isn't disabled in BIOS. I think you need to recheck that, I think it's under the Onboard devices sub-tab on the Inspiron
[10:05] <tomreyn> antonio_: type this: /ignore happy_watermelon
[10:06] <JohnQ> TJ-: is there a trick to make it happen?  The ones I tried did not.
[10:06] <antonio_> brb...checking bios
[10:06] <tomreyn> JohnQ: what are you trying to achieve, and why?
[10:06] <TJ-> JohnQ: Not that I know of, I see /dev/dri/card{0,1,2} for my 3 GPUs
[10:06] <JohnQ> tomreyn: Im trying to get smooth video playback.  Doesnt much matter how..
[10:07] <JohnQ> the nvidia driver using RTC timing or "usleep with busy wait" causes tearing...
[10:07] <scienceguy> this is ridiculus
[10:07] <tomreyn> JohnQ: so getting /dev/dri/cardX/ was just an intermediary step towards that goal?
[10:07] <JohnQ> the nouveau one plays at 4 fps...
[10:07] <JohnQ> tomreyn: yes.
[10:08] <tomreyn> JohnQ: so you should probably convert back to the proprietary driver.
[10:08] <abhie2e> how can i pxe boot my virtual box / vmware machine from my host machine?
[10:08] <tomreyn> JohnQ: i just helped you reach the stated goal of "i want to have /dev/dri/cardX/"
[10:08] <Ben64> JohnQ: the binary driver works much better than nouveau
[10:09] <JohnQ> Indeed.  But the tearing is very distracting.
[10:09] <Ben64> then change settings?
[10:09] <TJ-> JohnQ: with the nivida driver, you should see several DRI messages in the X server log; try "grep -H DRI /var/log/Xorg.?.log"
[10:10] <Ben64> JohnQ: what video card
[10:10] <JohnQ> I did.  (Still putting the nvidia rivers back).
[10:10] <JohnQ> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] (rev a2)
[10:10] <Ben64> oh thats old
[10:11] <JohnQ> I have the options of nvidia-304 nvidia-304-updates or nvidia-173   Which do you reccomend trying?
[10:11] <abhie2e> how can i pxe boot my virtual box / vmware machine from my host machine?
[10:11] <Ben64> JohnQ: 304
[10:12] <JohnQ> K
[10:12] <Ben64> it doesn't have vdpau, which would make video awesome
[10:12] <JohnQ> "it"?
[10:13] <Ben64> your vid card
[10:13] <JohnQ> Yeah.  Its not the newest machien.
[10:13] <JohnQ> But it has been able to play 1080p smoothly with older distros... so in theory it is physically possible :-)
[10:14] <scienceguy> TJ-: I did it! Good night!
[10:14] <TJ-> scienceguy: well done :)
[10:14] <scienceguy> Temporary fix, but it works.
[10:14] <scienceguy> I just have to type into the terminal each time.
[10:14] <scienceguy> Ubuntu is such a drain of my time...
[10:15] <TJ-> scienceguy: That's no good! install the .desktop file and you're sorted
[10:15] <scienceguy> I did, but it doesn't work
[10:15] <scienceguy> I wish linux was more accessible
[10:16] <JohnQ> OK... back to the nvidia driver, but no /dev/dri/
[10:16] <TJ-> scienceguy: Complain to the authors of python-ase, they should provide the desktop file
[10:16] <TJ-> JohnQ: Are you using "nomodeset" or similar? Check the Xorg log-file for DRI messages
[10:17] <scienceguy> TJ-: I got it to work now.
[10:17] <JohnQ> there are DRI messages in my Xorg.0.log.
[10:17] <JohnQ> Not sure what "nomodset" is/
[10:18] <TJ-> JohnQ: Here's what I see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7679272/
[10:18] <scienceguy> TJ-: This is what I needed to do: open home folder, edit > preferences > behavior > select run executable text files when they are opened
[10:18] <JohnQ> I see the same (except for the NVIDIA(1) lines... only one monitor)
[10:18] <TJ-> scienceguy: With a .desktop file none of that is necessary
[10:19] <TJ-> JohnQ: Yes, I have 3 GPUs on 2 cards
[10:19] <scienceguy> Good night!
[10:19] <JohnQ> but other than that... I see the same in my logs.
[10:19] <scienceguy> Time to save the world with awesome science!!!
[10:19] <TJ-> JohnQ: Hmmm, I wonder if the nvidia version you're using doesn't create the DRI nodes
[10:20] <JohnQ> That does seem to be the case.
[10:20] <Ben64> its the legacy driver because its a legacy card. why is /dev/dri necessary here?
[10:20] <JohnQ> But I am not sure if it is a problem with my config.. .or just a feature of that driver version..
[10:21] <JohnQ> Ben64: I'm just trying to get rid of the tearing in video playback.  I uderstand that DRI is the way to do that... but if there is a better way I am all for it.
[10:22] <Ben64> try using mplayer2
[10:27] <JohnQ> mplayer2 has tearing too.
[10:28] <invisibleman> guys im having a hard time with ubuntu https://i.imgur.com/tvJsu2T.jpg
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !ops|invisibleman porn
[10:30] <Ben64> JohnQ: ok, pastebin the output of "mplayer -endpos 5 <file>"
[10:32] <JohnQ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7679344/
[10:35] <Ben64> JohnQ: well if you're using a compositing window manager, try using something else. if you aren't then... deal with the tearing until you get a better system?
[10:35] <JohnQ> I do have composting turned on in unity ...
[10:36] <JohnQ> I could switch to a different window manager... I dont really even need one for mythtv...
[10:36] <JohnQ> Can you suggest a lightweight one?
[10:37] <Ben64> not sure
[10:37] <NthDegree> `xcompmgr -a` on top of any normal non-compositing WM
[10:37] <NthDegree> that gives you the lightest compositing going
[10:38] <NthDegree> the tearing should be near 0 as long as you enable vsync on the drivers
[10:38] <JohnQ> Not sure I followed how to do that...
[10:38] <JohnQ> But it sounds encouraging.
[10:38] <histo> JohnQ: openbox is light
[10:39] <NthDegree> JohnQ, are you on NVIDIA or ATI for graphics?
[10:39] <JohnQ> nvidia
[10:39] <NthDegree> JohnQ, check that SyncToVBlank is enabled in NVIDIA settings
[10:40] <JohnQ> It was off.
[10:40] <NthDegree> JohnQ, that meant you had no VSync
[10:40] <NthDegree> so tearing was expected
[10:41] <NthDegree> log off and on again
[10:41] <JohnQ> I really hope this is it.
[10:41] <NthDegree> and you should see no tearing anymore :D
[10:41] <NthDegree> assuming you're on Unity or another compositing DE
[10:41] <JohnQ> Yeah unity
[10:44] <cjae> when I install a package isnt there a directory that keeps the deb?
[10:45] <NthDegree> cjae, on apt-get?
[10:45] <cfhowlett> cjae it'll be in your cache
[10:46] <histo> cjae: /var/cache/apt/
[10:46] <cjae> histo: thank you
[10:46] <histo> cjae: sorry /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:46] <cjae> wanna try and steal a package from another deb based distro
[10:47] <histo> cjae: why?
[10:47] <cjae> dont think its available on others. too vague a title to search in google
[10:48] <JohnQ> Nope.  Still tearing.
[10:48] <NthDegree> JohnQ, run NVIDIA Settings and check it again
[10:48] <histo> cjae: what is the name of the package?
[10:48] <NthDegree> JohnQ, the problem with NVIDIA is the settings don't always apply before the DE loads :(
[10:49] <cjae> histo: encode
[10:49] <JohnQ> Interesting... it is off again.  :-/
[10:49] <cjae> written in qt
[10:49] <NthDegree> JohnQ, did you save settings?
[10:49] <JohnQ> I did...
[10:49] <NthDegree> JohnQ, after checking the box, go to the very bottom section
[10:50] <NthDegree> JohnQ, then click on 'Save Current Configuration' (or else it isn't saved)
[10:50] <histo> !info encode
[10:50] <histo> !find encode
[10:50] <JohnQ> into a .file in my home dir?
[10:50] <JohnQ> That seems odd.
[10:50] <NthDegree> JohnQ, seems odd but it's correct
[10:50] <JohnQ> ok
[10:50] <histo> cjae: do you have it's website? You could make a deb from source with checkinstall
[10:50] <NthDegree> JohnQ, there should be a startup process that picks up that file on login
[10:51] <JohnQ> ok  We'll see :-)
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> JohnQ  home contains a hidden .config folder
[10:51] <cjae> one sec histo
[10:52] <NthDegree> MonkeyDust, we're on about ~/.nvidia-settingsrc  xD
[10:52] <arun_> guys, does anyone have a UBuntu VPS and wanna lend me some space of it ?
[10:52] <cjae> histo: http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=jsv9yts0ebl8x07btp0v.png
[10:53] <Ben64> arun_: this is not the right channel for that
[10:53] <arun_> Ben64: so, where can I ask for ?
[10:54] <cjae> histo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TpOLKbta4s
[10:54] <cfhowlett> arun_ #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:54] <histo> cjae: I have no idea what that is.
[10:54] <Ben64> arun_: i doubt anyone will give you something for free
[10:54] <cjae> gui re-encoder
[10:55] <NthDegree> Why would anyone risk VPS security?
[10:56] <JohnQ> Still didnt take.
[10:56] <JohnQ> Is there a way to set it in the Xorg.conf or something?
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> cjae  there's also winFF
[10:56] <histo> cjae: Have you used the app before?
[10:57] <NthDegree> JohnQ, not sure there unfortunately :(
[10:58] <abhie2e> i installed dhcp3-server but there is no /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server
[10:58] <abhie2e> help
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> abhie2e  better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess
[10:59] <cjae> histo: not much and I used winff and the two things I wanted to use it for it didnt work. Mainly due to the ffmpeg fork. This may be a issue with this app as well
[10:59] <abhie2e> arun_, come in pm
[10:59] <abhie2e> MonkeyDust, ok
[10:59] <histo> cjae: then why are you looking for a application that you only have a screenshot of and no information about?
[10:59] <cjae> histo: huh? I have installed in a vm
[11:00] <histo> cjae: you have what installed?
[11:00] <cjae> neptune that has the app in question in it
[11:01] <JohnQ> But, if I enable that setting, then it takes effect immediately?
[11:01] <histo> cjae: in what distro?
[11:01] <cjae> http://www.zevenos.com/download/zevenos-neptune-2
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> cjae  what's the output of: cat /etc/issue
[11:02] <cjae> on what? MonkeyDust
[11:03] <cjae> my host or guest?
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> cjae  in a terminal
[11:03] <cjae> ...
[11:03] <JohnQ> A terminal in the vm
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> cjae  the system you're working with and that gives issues
[11:04] <histo> cjae: try man encode  and go to the bottom of the man page what does it give for a link?
[11:05] <cjae> Debian GNULinux 7
[11:05] <histo> cjae: does it say where it's from?
[11:06] <cjae> no man encode page
[11:06] <histo> cjae: is that the applicaiton that is launched there?  look at the whatever.desktop file and see what is launching.
[11:07] <cjae> damn clipboard aint working in vbox
[11:07] <cjae> one sec
[11:08] <cjae> sorry darn ...forgot
[11:08] <histo> cjae: here is a package list for zevenos neptune but a few of those packages I can't find in debian or ubuntu http://www.zevenos.com/files/neptune32-packagelist.txt
[11:09] <cjae> $/usr/bin/Encode.gambas
[11:11] <cjae> I dont see it in the apt-cache, wonder if I do a reinstall if it would download it?
[11:11] <cjae> */apt/archive*
[11:12] <histo> cjae: apt-get download encode
[11:15] <cjae> downloaded version 3.0 still dont see package thou haha
[11:16] <cjae> can launch but no .deb
[11:20] <histo> cjae: if you apt-get download it will download it into whatever directory you are in.
[11:21] <cjae> histo: haha there it is
[11:22] <cjae> wonder what the issues are going to be with older deb repos
[11:22] <cjae> will try in vm first
[11:22] <histo> cjae: you could apt-cache showpkg encode and see what it requires
[11:22] <symptom> How to download files from ubuntu one without ubuntu?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> symptom via the web ... and quickly
[11:23] <JohnQ> NthDegree: Nope.  Tearing happens even with vsync enabled.  :-/
[11:23] <TJ-> symptom: http://voices.canonical.com/ubuntuone/2014/06/03/moving-your-content-away-from-ubuntu-one-file-services/
[11:23] <symptom> cfhowlett, i logged on but I have to download each file individually?
[11:24] <symptom> right click save as?
[11:24] <NthDegree> JohnQ, that's unusual, only video games seem to have that problem :|
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> symptom  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/ubuntu-one-downloader-app
[11:24] <JohnQ> And mythtv, apparently :-(
[11:24] <histo> cjae: you know what try apt-cache showsrc encode
[11:24] <symptom> cfhowlett, TJ- I tried their script, but it just brings me back to the 'shutdown' page
[11:24] <NthDegree> JohnQ, keep in mind that per-app settings can override it
[11:24] <cjae> histo: what was this stuff about checkinstall?
[11:24] <cjae> histo: ok one sec
[11:24] <cfhowlett> symptom there's a script now???
[11:24] <Omnipotent> TJ-, hehe sucks, just for fun, I tried hulu.com through squid3 but turns out that this IP is blocked by them
[11:25] <Omnipotent> Requesting my VPS provider to change it
[11:25] <Omnipotent> :P
[11:25] <NthDegree> JohnQ, might consider using Lubuntu (or LXDE) and trying it with `xcompmgr -a`
[11:25] <NthDegree> JohnQ, Unity might be loading before NVIDIA settings kick in, leaving the DE non-VSync :(
[11:25] <JohnQ> I dont want to completey switch distros... I just got this system (mostly) working...
[11:25] <histo> cjae: checkinstall was for creating a deb file from source code. This will not be needed if the deb works
[11:25] <JohnQ> Can I just change WMs?
[11:26] <NthDegree> JohnQ, of course you can :)
[11:26] <symptom> cfhowlett, TJ- MonkeyDust  http://ubuntuone.com/u1-downloader/u1-downloader.tar.gz redirects me to the 'shutdown' page
[11:26] <cjae> histo: right but im thinking it wont work and...
[11:26] <NthDegree> JohnQ, on the login screen you can pick what WM you want to use from the icon to the right of the username
[11:26] <histo> cjae: pastebin the apt-cache showsrc encode  output please
[11:26] <histo> !paste | cjae
[11:26] <NthDegree> JohnQ, also `sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop` gets you all the stuff without switching distros
[11:26] <cfhowlett> symptom are you signed in to Ubuntu ONe?
[11:27] <symptom> cfhowlett, yes
[11:27] <symptom> cfhowlett, via web only
[11:27] <JohnQ> hm
[11:27] <Fusl> can someone confirm that, when opening the volume control menu ( https://www.dropbox.com/s/y1pwc9fbwsqgdtu/Screenshot%202014-06-21%2013.26.00.png ) and then trying to turn the volume up/down with the keyboard (function keys), it does not work, is a bug?
[11:27] <cjae> histo: unable to locate package
[11:28] <histo> cjae: dpkg -l | grep encode
[11:28] <JohnQ> NthDegree: My login page (which is normally skipped) does not have an option like that.
[11:28] <JohnQ> Only thing it lets me do is select user and type password.
[11:29] <symptom> cfhowlett, TJ- MonkeyDust do any of you have a copy of the U1 script in tar.gz?
[11:30] <histo> cjae: do we have the right package name?
[11:30] <TJ-> symptom: That file downloads correctly for me, at least after logging-in to Ubuntu One
[11:30] <cjae> histo: yep
[11:30] <symptom> TJ-, can I get a copy?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> symptom sorry, don't know what to tell you.  I grabbed all my files the day the closedown was announced
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> symptom  so did I
[11:31] <cjae> look like it, I can pastebin that but it takes a second since I cant clipboard between guest and host
[11:31] <cjae> histo: ^^
[11:31] <mikubuntu> i see someone else is having problem dl ubuntu one files .. i followed instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/U1/Downloader/Linux/How_to_Use but not working for me
[11:31] <symptom> mikubuntu, then im not crazy?
[11:32] <TJ-> symptom: what browser are you using? Maybe it downloads the file in the background and redirects the page to the shutdown message in the meantime
[11:32] <NthDegree> JohnQ, might need to look into what login screen you've chosen
[11:32] <mikubuntu> i can't certify that :P'
[11:32] <symptom> TJ-, no.... iceweasel
[11:32] <NthDegree> JohnQ, normally there's a little Ubuntu logo next to the username after you've clicked on it
[11:32] <JohnQ> Nope.  Nothing like that
[11:32] <symptom> TJ-, MonkeyDust mikubuntu I used chromium and it downloads now
[11:32] <symptom> lol
[11:32] <TJ-> symptom: Have you tried it from a terminal, with "wget http://ubuntuone.com/u1-downloader/u1-downloader.tar.gz" ?
[11:33] <histo> cjae: you could pastebin on the guest.  pastebin apt-cache showpkg encode && apt-cache showsrc encode
[11:34] <histo> cjae: also dpkg -L encode
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !touch > cfhowlett
[11:34] <cjae> pastebin.com/hEymtBcj
[11:35] <histo> cjae: okay pastebin the other stuff I asked also
[11:36] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i used the wget string you just posted and it seems to have downloaded the tar.gz, but i think i had already done that much. could you walk me thru the next steps possibly?
[11:36] <abhishek> hi
[11:36] <arun_> abhishek: hey
[11:37] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I have no idea - I don't use it myself
[11:37] <abhishek> where r u from?
[11:37] <cfhowlett> abhishek ask your #ubuntu support question
[11:37] <sveta> he means ask your question please
[11:37] <mikubuntu> TJ-: thx anyways :P
[11:37] <sveta> it can be related to the distro or to any software on it
[11:38] <abhishek> I am new to ubuntu
[11:38] <sveta> welcome
[11:38] <sveta> I am also a bit new
[11:38] <TJ-> mikdid you follow this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/U1/Downloader/Linux/How_to_Use
[11:38] <abhishek> i want to learn scripting
[11:38] <histo> abhishek: what kind of scripting?
[11:38] <TJ-> mikubuntu: did you follow that ^^^^^ guide?
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !bash | abhishek
[11:38] <sveta> good -- I might recommend reading rute and the ubunwu wiki pages related to scripting
[11:38] <csj> Me too.
[11:38] <sveta> the wiki pages ubottu just linked
[11:38] <mikubuntu> i have dl the tar.gz file for retrieving ubuntu one files, but can't seem to complete the process
[11:38] <abhishek> thanx sveta
[11:39] <sveta> it doesn't really matter what terminal you use
[11:39] <histo> abhishek: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/
[11:39] <sveta> thanks histo :)
[11:39] <mikubuntu> TJ-: yes i tried to follow those steps but no cigar
[11:39] <TJ-> mikubuntu: which step of that guide fails?
[11:39] <histo> mikubuntu: tar -xvzf whatever.tar.gz
[11:39] <cjae> pastebin.com/39Cai0Mq
[11:40] <solon> Does anyone use vim for coding or do you prefer to use ides ?
[11:40] <cjae> histo: link updated
[11:41] <cfhowlett> solon quite sure SOMEONE uses vim - dealer's choice.   use what works for you
[11:41] <mikubuntu> histo: -xvzf: command not found
[11:41] <cjae> dont they let you edit the pastebin page to use the same link?
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  tar is the command, the rest are options
[11:43] <histo> cjae: look at /usr/share/doc/encode/copyright
[11:44] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: don't understand :(
[11:44] <e^> mikubuntu: type tar -xzvf <filename.tar.gz>
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  "-xvzf" is not a command, "tar" is the command, i guess you forgot that
[11:44] <histo> cjae: I think the distro maintainer made that frontend
[11:45] <histo> solon: what is your real question. Many people use vim
[11:45] <mikubuntu> ok, lemme try
[11:46] <Aussie_matt> Hi all: Im hoping someone can provide some input: I was looking at the dell xps13 DE with ubuntu factory installed in a i7 version, but it's since been pulled, and now only an i5 is available. How much reall world difference exists between the i7 and i5?
[11:46] <mikubuntu>   e^   with <> on either side of filename?
[11:47] <e^> mikubuntu: no just filename.tar.gz
[11:47] <cjae> histo: might be wrong pkg,
[11:49] <mikubuntu> e^:  tar -xvzf ul-downloader.tar.gz tar (child): ul-downloader.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:49] <TJ-> mikubuntu: "3. Go to the folder where you downloaded the file (probably Downloads)..."
[11:49] <e^> mikubuntu: are you in the directory where it is located ? type ls
[11:49] <csj> cd
[11:49] <cjae> pastebin.com/fV9Tw75E
[11:50] <e^> and see if it's there
[11:50] <cjae> 2009?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt see the forums  http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613.aspx
[11:50] <Ben64> mikubuntu: take out that "tar" at the end
[11:50] <cjae> wait no its not
[11:51] <neutralizer> hi, is there a better tool than ssh for proxy tunneling for ubuntu? I mean I use "ssh -D 3333 -N SERVER" and then use it as socks proxy but it's what I have to do every time I want it. Isn't there a one time setup and auto reconnect if disconnected.
[11:51] <mikubuntu> e^: i get a bunch of blue text (desktop downloads pics etc and then in red is the name of the file ul-downloader.tar.gz
[11:51] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: sure, looking now
[11:52] <vimes1984> hello
[11:52] <vimes1984> is there anyone here?
[11:52] <Cuber> Hey gents, I'm having issues with the flash player on Firefox 30.0 using Xubuntu 14.04. Every time I start viewing online videos, the whole browser freezes for ~20-30 seconds
[11:52] <Ben64> vimes1984: over 1600 people
[11:52] <vimes1984> splendid!!!
[11:52] <vimes1984> I come looking for help
[11:53] <Cuber> !ask
[11:53] <e^> Ben64: i think that's part of the error, mikubuntu are you adding an extra "tar" at the end of the command ?
[11:53] <mikubuntu> Ben64: guess i just don't understand
[11:53] <chatter1> hi
[11:53] <chatter1> whats the topic?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !topic | chatter1
[11:53] <Ben64> chatter1: same as always, ubuntu support
[11:53] <mikubuntu> Ben64: i don't know what you mean by adding extra tar
[11:53] <Ben64> mikubuntu: <mikubuntu> e^:  tar -xvzf ul-downloader.tar.gz tar
[11:54] <cjae> histo: oh well must not want to disclose src, ill let you know if I was able to install deb, thanks for help... also not telling to go to some other channel   thumbs up
[11:54] <vimes1984> I'm desperatly trying to solve a problem http://superuser.com/questions/771028/mount-usb-to-serial-adapter-canbus-and-can-utils-ubuntu
[11:54] <chatter1> extra tar?
[11:54] <Cuber> Do you guys reckon I should head over to some firefox channel instead?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> Cuber  the question is the answer
[11:55] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust deep!
[11:55] <Cuber> 2deep5me
[11:55] <mikubuntu> Ben64: i entered: tar -xvzf ul-downloader.tar.gz tar as you typed it -- cannot open: no such file or dir
[11:56] <vimes1984> basically I'm trying to connect a can bus device via a cheap usb to canbus adapter and I'm failing misreably
[11:57] <e^> mikubuntu: he was asking if you added "tar" at the end, not telling you to add it
[11:57] <Ben64> mikubuntu: i said get rid of the extra tar, and posted what you said
[11:57] <e^> it's part of the error msg, not an extra tar
[11:57] <Ben64> well it was all on the same line
[11:57] <e^> yeah i know, just saying
[11:58] <Ben64> mikubuntu: use pastebins if you need to show up something that is more than one line
[12:01] <vimes1984> ok
[12:01] <mikubuntu> the only thing that ever helps me through these term situations is if someone walks me thru the steps -- i've tried to follow the instructions on the page, but doesn't work for me. don't know why. the downloader file seems to be in the archive manager, can it be 'extracted' with that? is that what i want to do?
[12:01] <vimes1984> how do i send a wake up frame via can-utils to a canopen device
[12:07] <mikubuntu> Ben64: can i do this through the archive manager any easier?
[12:08] <infinmed> Hey . Is there a google authenticator application for ubuntu
[12:09] <infinmed> Like the one android has or whatever
[12:09] <infinmed> So I can use 2 factor auth
[12:12] <Cuber> infinmed, you could just run it via some android emulator
[12:13] <abhie2e> while trying to /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server start i get error  * check syslog for diagnostics. fail
[12:13] <abhie2e> help
[12:16] <infinmed> abhie2e: lol so read the syslog ;]
[12:17] <infinmed> That'd be a start, i'd think
[12:17] <abhie2e> infinmed, lol where is the dhcp log?
[12:17] <infinmed> syslog logs are by default in /var/log
[12:17] <abhie2e> infinmed, dhcp is not there
[12:17] <infinmed> i'd do something like 'grep -i dhcp /var/log/* | tail -n 250 | less'
[12:17] <infinmed> and look through it
[12:18] <abhie2e> me too. only if the dhcp would be there
[12:18] <infinmed> abhie2e: then look at the dhcp config file and see where it is logging to
[12:18] <infinmed> hold on i run dhcpd let me look
[12:18] <abhie2e> ok
[12:19] <infinmed> If you look at dhcpd.conf in /etc i imagine the following has somethin to do with your issue. It is uncommented per default at my edge although my edge is not ubuntu: # Use this to send dhcp log messages to a different log file (you also
[12:19] <infinmed> # have to hack syslog.conf to complete the redirection).
[12:19] <infinmed> log-facility local7;
[12:19] <mikubuntu> anybody else having problems downloading files from ubuntu one as described on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/U1/Downloader/Linux/How_to_Use ???
[12:20] <infinmed> This might help also abhie2e https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/dhcp-users/2012-March/015214.html
[12:21] <abhie2e> infinmed, i dont understand what is log-facility?
[12:21] <abhie2e> is that a command?
[12:21] <infinmed> It's the software you use for logging
[12:21] <infinmed> "Logging Facility is the system on the device you want to set logging for (i.e. CDP, SNMP, etc.) The number shoould be the severity, which is how much information to do you want to see about the facility. 7 is debugging."
[12:22] <abhie2e> ok
[12:22] <mikubuntu> i notice that in the instructions when it says to go to the directory it says "cd downloads" and not "cd ~downloads" is this a typo/error?
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  try cd ~/Downloads
[12:23] <e^> mikubuntu: ~ means home directory, it's not a typo
[12:24] <e^> yeah it needs a /
[12:24] <scene> sure
[12:24] <infinmed> Yeh ~ does no expand to a / at the end. Duh.
[12:24] <mikubuntu> MonkeyDust: so is the instruction in error on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/U1/Downloader/Linux/How_to_Use ??
[12:25] <infinmed><EMAIL_ADDRESS>echo ~
[12:25] <infinmed> /home/infinmed
[12:26] <abhie2e> infinmed, find / -name 'syslog.conf' returs nothing. i dont have syslog.conf?
[12:26] <abhie2e> how is that possible/
[12:27] <infinmed> abhie2e: I'm not an ubuntu specialist although a lot of linux you have to install your own log daemon as there is more than one
[12:27] <infinmed> Maybe somehow yours was turned off or not installed
[12:27] <abhie2e> ok
[12:27] <e^> mikubuntu: i think you are confusing the "1" in u1-downloader with a "l"
[12:27] <e^> type tar -xzvf u1-downloader.tar.gz
[12:27] <e^> (not ul-downloader.tar.gz)
[12:28] <infinmed> abhie2e: my xubuntu 14.04 is using rsyslogd so try something like 'ps -alx | grep log' or even more precise try syslogd rsyslogd etc
[12:28] <infinmed> If you're wondering if it's running or not
[12:29] <abhie2e> infinmed, okey
[12:30] <scene> Have you solved it
[12:32] <mikubuntu> e^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7679791/
[12:32] <Cuber> ugh, html5 video not working at all
[12:32] <bhavesh> what is dpkg --configure -a command used for/
[12:33] <bhavesh> last time when I shut the virtual machine when it was installing apps, and tried to resume it the next time, it told me to do dpkg --configure -a
[12:33] <bhavesh> what does it do internally?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> bhavesh  to repair unfinished package installs
[12:33] <bhavesh> MonkeyDust: k thanks.
[12:35] <introom> is it possible for me to do a raw search, just taking it as plain text without any special meaning, in ack-grep?
[12:35] <introom> like ack-grep '.. %s' instead of ack-gre '\.\. %s'
[12:35] <sveta> aw
[12:35] <sveta> what is 'ack-grep' doing in an ubuntu room
[12:35] <sveta> it's really just ack here last time i checked
[12:36] <sveta> on a more serious note, i suspect the folks over at #ack might understand it a bit better
[12:36] <sveta> or not
[12:36] <sveta> i thought they have a channel here
[12:37] <bekks> sveta: Do you mean "apt-get"?
[12:37] <meek_geek> anyone using a macbook pro here ?
[12:37] <epizefiri> Hi there, i've a Lenovo Thinkpad with a Displayport and a VGA output. Can i use both ports together?
[12:37] <bekks> meek_geek: Why?
[12:37] <sveta> sorry, introom. i found you can type "\Q.. %s\E" and it will look for ".. %s" literally
[12:37] <bekks> epizefiri: Depends on your hardware specifications - thats not depending on Ubuntu.
[12:38] <sveta> introom, also the -Q switch of ack will do raw thing like you need
[12:38] <meek_geek> bekks, I have an old macbook pro my sis gave me and i watch to wipe out mac os x and use Ubuntu on it ( Solely )
[12:38] <sveta> just found in man page
[12:38] <bekks> meek_geek: So do it? :)
[12:38] <meek_geek> want*
[12:38] <meek_geek> bekks, but some are saying dual graphics switching won't work ever
[12:39] <epizefiri> Bekks, Lenovo says that the hw permits but refers to windows. ubuntu is the same?
[12:39] <sveta> i might suggest that you try the live cd and play around with it until you're confident that all the hardware works properly
[12:39] <sveta> meek_geek, ^^
[12:39] <meek_geek> Ok
[12:39] <meek_geek> I would do it tonight
[12:39] <meek_geek> I want to know how is the gaming experience on linux ?
[12:39] <meek_geek> natively ?
[12:39] <sveta> from the live cd you can also visit webchat.freenode.net or install an irc client like quassel in the software center to come here
[12:40] <arun_> guys, how would I use OBS for the debian build
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> sveta  meek_geek note: my laptop works flawless with a 14.04 live cd, but not after it's installed
[12:40] <meek_geek> MonkeyDust, mac ?
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> meek_geek  missed that part, sorry, no mac
[12:41] <sveta> meek_geek, about gaming it varies a lot, so you may want to be a little bit more specific about the gaming you'd like to have (i'm quite happy with a chess instance i've got here to play with computer or with a friend, but most gaming folks giggle when they hear that)
[12:41] <sveta> MonkeyDust, curious, i would be interested in details
[12:41] <bekks> meek_geek: dual outputs do not mean dual graphics.
[12:41] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, what is the window manager of ubuntu unity ? compiz ?
[12:41] <meek_geek> bekks, its macbook pro 8,2 with dual graphics INtel HD and AMD Gddr5 graphics
[12:41] <introom> sveta: you great
[12:41] <meek_geek> but it switches to save battery
[12:42] <introom> sveta: but where is the \Q doc-ed, and what about the \E ?
[12:42] <meek_geek> I want to use ubuntu instead of mac os on macbook pro lol
[12:42] <sveta> i believe it uses perl regex, so 'perldoc perlre' for the \Q and \E things would hopefully have it; i suspect that -Q switch to ack itself may be easier to type though
[12:43] <sveta> ...       as a metacharacter introducing a comment, just as in ordinary Perl code.  This also means that if you want real whitespace or        "#" characters in the pattern (outside a character class, where they are unaffected by "/x"), then you'll either have to        escape them (using backslashes or "\Q...\E") or encode them using octal, hex, or "\N{}" escapes. ... <-- perldoc perlre
[12:44] <sveta> meek_geek, try live cd, it should give you some kick, but as MonkeyDust said, the install may introduce problems (how rare or not is that, i dunno, i don't know the background or context to that case)
[12:44] <sveta> from live cd you can also come here
[12:45] <arun_> guys, how would I use OBS for the debian build
[12:45] <sveta> hi
[12:46] <OerHeks> arun_, what is obs?
[12:46] <freezer> hi
[12:46] <scene> sveta:how about puppylinux
[12:46] <freezer> Looking for a good howto to install Ubuntu on a MacBookPro late 2013
[12:46] <arun_> OerHeks: Open Build Service
[12:46] <sveta> hrmz
[12:46] <introom> sveta: thanks
[12:47] <sveta> welcome
[12:47] <OerHeks> arun_, we, ubuntu,  have launchpad.
[12:47] <sveta> OerHeks, they distribute obs binaries on the website, apparently they have a debian build and arun_ would like to run it on ubuntu
[12:47] <sveta> oh, i see
[12:47] <arun_> OerHeks: yeah but I need for the derivative
[12:47] <arun_> sveta: I want the debian build to work
[12:48] <sveta> debian build of obs you mean
[12:48] <arun_> sveta: I need to know how to work with obs
[12:49] <sveta> they have a #opensuse-buildservice   channel here if you'd like to know how to use it after it's installed
[12:50] <sveta> they distribute it as a .iso, which is to be installed on a "block device", but i'm not sure what that means; the install .iso includes opensuse itself
[12:50] <sveta> so it's probably a question of how to install a .iso from within ubuntu or something
[12:50] <arun_> sveta: thanks for the channel !!! cya
[12:51] <sveta> please don't vanish and feel free to stick around
[12:51] <sveta> a bit interested to see how it works for you, ey :)
[12:51] <sveta> their channel is about 10 times smaller than here so if you just ask a question then chances are higher that they'll get onto it sooner
[12:55] <_Trullo> just upgraded from 13 to latest, system is really slow and sluggish.. how can I improve this?
[12:56] <lenny___> with the power of xubuntu
[12:57] <lenny___> or the power of proprietary video card drivers
[12:57] <lenny___> or both
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> _Trullo  remove old kernels, if needed
[12:59] <Cuber> lenny___, with the power of lubuntu
[13:00] <lenny___> that's ok too
[13:01] <Guest67679> just be able to run GTA San Andreas on my LInux
[13:01] <Guest67679> I got \o/
[13:02] <_Trullo> could be graphics drivers..
[13:04] <C4Cypher> Is it unusual to have the packages libgl mesa graphics drivers (obiaf) updating daily (or more if I let it)?
[13:04] <lenny___> it's unusual, yes
[13:06] <C4Cypher> Okay, rather than bury the channel in questions, I'll keep troubleshooting.
[13:07] <OerHeks> C4Cypher, added some daily PPA ?
[13:07] <kanchan> #embedded
[13:09] <agus> how to use chinesse drawing tablet on ubuuntu 14.04
[13:10] <agus> ?
[13:10] <lenny___> if you connected it and it doesn't work
[13:10] <lenny___> you're in for a lot or work and googling
[13:10] <agus> it doesn't
[13:11] <agus> i use xp-pen p series
[13:11] <lenny___> start by looking at dmesg to confirm the kernel sees something
[13:12] <lenny___> and then start googling the product name you read in dmesg
[13:12] <lenny___> something like that
[13:12] <agus> how to use dmesg?
[13:12] <OerHeks> agus, what does 'lsusb' say about your tablet? paste that line here please
[13:12] <sherlock__> anybody here knows which channel do i get artificial intelligence techniques
[13:13] <agus> i'm working, my tablet at home
[13:13] <agus> maybe i'll come back later
[13:13] <lenny___> just connect the table and then type dmesg in a shell
[13:14] <OerHeks> !alis| sherlock__
[13:14] <agus> okay, i'll try it
[13:16] <sherlock__> LIST
[13:17]  * JohnQ fights the urge to begin listing his DNA sequence.
[13:17] <OerHeks>  /msg alis list midsummer ubuntu party
[13:20] <trollbit> hi guys
[13:21] <trollbit> hi guys
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> JohnQ  cloning *does* have limits in computing
[13:21] <sveta> sherlock__, hi.
[13:22] <trollbit> hi sveta
[13:22] <sveta> sherlock__, ask ##programming, and 'ai' is one of the keywords.
[13:22] <C4Cypher> OerHeks: I doubt it, I've got thre entries for ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers, one for the actual package, and two for the source code.  I highly suspect I don't need the source code, and I don't know why it would be listed twice.
[13:22] <sveta> sherlock__, they appear to have an #ai channel on here about it.
[13:22] <agus> OerHeks, do you have skype id?
[13:22] <C4Cypher> trollbit: Hey there.
[13:23] <sveta> agus, i believe that's not desired to help over Skype. if it's for making friends, you may have to /msg.
[13:24] <agus> sveta, okay, :) will you available for tomorrow?
[13:27] <_Trullo> wierd.. updated bios and now it works like normal..
[13:27] <Seven_Six_Two> ai techniques? Is there something other than algorithms used now?
[13:27] <agus> how to remove old kernel?
[13:28] <rodney771> Hi, I'm trying to connect to another Ubuntu computer with Remmina, but all I see is either a black screen, or a scrambled box/rectangle in one corner of the view panel. Remmina appears to think it's connected and I get no errors. Could someone help me with it?
[13:28] <rodney771> I'm using RDP
[13:30] <j`ey> how can I ge the 'extlinux' package?
[13:31] <CooLBALL> I am having a hell of a time
[13:31] <CooLBALL> I call this one the sprinkler
[13:32] <cfhowlett> CooLBALL ask your ubuntu support questions
[13:32] <CooLBALL> nouveau is appropriate for my nVidia GeForce GT 220?
[13:35] <scene> Which one can share some experience about  Git?
[13:35] <tsunami_> hi, there was a console based web browser, I believe, does anyone know the name?
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !browser|tsunami_
[13:36] <zykotick9> tsunami_: check out links2 and elinks