[19:54] <eTiger13> in the latest gutsy (been using beta, and i think there was a kernel upgrade a couple days ago), i mapped my keyboards sleep button to lock the screen. this worked up until this last kernel. now it locks the screen and then hibernates or shuts down my computer. how can i get it to just lock the screen only again?
[19:54] <aantn> can I somehow boot into a cli?
[19:54] <unit3> aantn: ahhhh... login on console, go into .gnome2, edit session, and remove line for bluez
[19:54] <bXi> jhoz: using ati here :/
[19:54] <taime1> are broadcom wireless cards now supported??
[19:54] <PovAddict> DerDritte: if you "unpack" it, you'll be using 600MB more of diskspace
[19:54] <Journeyman> is there a compiz manager that isn't a buggy piece of crap?
[19:54] <badger> Having problems installing Gutsy...went for a clean install from the LiveCD and it seems to copy everything over to my harddrive then freezes when "configuring ast" at 82% Any ideas?
[19:54] <PovAddict> mounting it you'll read from the .iso directly
[19:54] <aantn> unit3: how do I login on console?
[19:54] <Jordan_U> taime1, If they are supported by the bcm43xx drivers then yes
[19:54] <amr> hello
[19:54] <jhoz> bXi: I think ati's site has good linux drivers, have you updated them from there?
[19:54] <DerDritte> PovAddict: got that, just got now idea how to mount an iso (sorry).
[19:54] <mpetersen> Anyone, issues with dapper updates?  "apt-get update" -- "Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg - Bad header line"
[19:54] <eTiger13> badger: did you let it run for awhile?
[19:54] <aantn> Journeyman: like fusion-icon or like cssm?
[19:54] <mrj> aww no more ubuntu+1
[19:55] <badger> yeah I left it for about 45 minutes
[19:55] <unit3> aantn: at graphical login manager, hit cntl-alt-f1, and it'll dump you to the text console, when you're done, use alt-leftarrow to get back to the graphical login.
[19:55] <amr> plz i want help to be able to maximize my laptop battery life
[19:55] <taime1> anyone know where the torrent for gutsy is? i bet its MUCH faster to get it that way
[19:55] <Jordan_U> taime1, http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices to see if your chipset is supported
[19:55] <bXi> jhoz: i tried that as well but that failed
[19:55] <CaBlGuY> !NTFS
[19:55] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[19:55] <Journeyman> cssm isn't in the repository
[19:55] <bXi> i'll try now gutsy is stable tho
[19:55] <pibe86> unit3: it says  "desktop effects could not be enable"
[19:55] <ARJones> so now that compiz is working wonderfully, is there a way to install the different compiz themes?
[19:55] <unit3> Journeyman: it's called compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:55] <Pici> Journeyman: the package name is compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:55] <aantn> unit3: thanks
[19:55] <unit3> aantn: no prob :)
[19:55] <eTiger13> lol gutsy isnt stable yet. its labeled stable but it still has issues
[19:56] <Journeyman> ah I installed gnome-compiz-manager and it sucked bad
[19:56] <doofy`> is there a repo for gutsy that has vmware server?
[19:56] <unit3> all OSes have issues, Gutsy is way more stable for me than feisty
[19:56] <jhasse> ARJones, do you mean the compizconfig-settings-manager?
[19:56] <Jordan_U> I can ping my machine and I can ssh in but not get a shell, should I pull the plug?
[19:56] <jhoz> bXi: sry then =/.  That worked for my laptops ati card so im not sure what else u can do.
[19:56] <mrj> taime1, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[19:56] <unit3> eTiger13: if you're having problems, file a bug report.
[19:56] <mpetersen> unit3: how long have you been using it to make that statement?
[19:56] <pibe86> unit3: other suggest?
[19:56] <taime1> mrj thanks!
[19:56] <Pici> amr: webhttrack is the only thing I can think of
[19:56] <eTiger13> unit3: fiesty was way more stable and reliable then gutsy has been for me
[19:56] <unit3> mpetersen: a couple of weeks, and it's because it fixes lots of hardware bugs on my laptop.
[19:56] <unit3> YMMV
[19:56] <dolvi> :-)
[19:56] <mrj> dude gutsy just released
[19:57] <bXi> jhoz: can you walk me trough installing those drivers perhaps?
[19:57] <DerDritte> PovAddict: reading the man brb :D
[19:57] <eTiger13> doofy: just install from source.
[19:57] <bXi> i might've made a screwup somewhere
[19:57] <unit3> mrj: yes, but it's been available for install in various forms for months, I've been using it since it went beta.
[19:57] <amr> Pici : what as longerbout that , will it make my laptop battery stay
[19:57] <ARJones> jhasse: I can see where I can change the different settings etc, such as if i want wobbly windows, i'm talking about like actual themes, IE, change the window colors and whatnot. Beryl had the Crystal Theme Manager or something like that
[19:57] <mpetersen> ok, so no one knows anything about the dapper repo being hosed?  is there an lts channel I should be asking this in?
[19:57] <jhoz> bXi: at the moment I cant, Im in comp sci class.  If your on in a few hours I'll be at work and I can try.
[19:57] <Kilroo> Blast...I'm probably going to have to start from scratch AGAIN...stupid Windows installation put its boot files in the free space I was reserving so I could put my /boot partition at the beginning of the drive.
[19:57] <mrj> unit3, cool, so we compare a programs reliability at beta to one thats released. makes sense, gotcha
[19:57] <ARJones> jhasseL All ubuntu has is those few themes under appearance
[19:57] <unit3> mpetersen: is it hosed on all mirrors? that seems unlikely
[19:57] <badger> noone else had problems with install freezing while configuring ast?
[19:58] <Jordan_U> mpetersen, You should file a bug report and try a different mirror
[19:58] <mpetersen> archive, us and ca
[19:58] <bXi> jhoz: i'll be n bed by then
[19:58] <unit3> mrj: well, yes, if I find something it beta to be more stable than the previous release, than I consider it pretty stable. ;)
[19:58] <dryrot> where is the ubuntu unstable channel hiding?
[19:58] <unit3> erm something in
[19:58] <jhasse> ARJones, compiz is using metacity's themes, the standard gnome ones. But you can use beryl's: just install emerald and something like "emerald-theme-manager"
[19:58] <eurico> hello. Just installed Gutsy Gibbon but don't have my CDROM device working :\
[19:58] <Pirate_Hunter> has there been an update to bery/compiz so that other cards can use it, if so where can i find out which cards can do so?
[19:58] <master3000> any german
[19:58] <codeblue> hey all, im having a problem with my usb harddrive, i cant mount it and it dosnt show up in fdisk -l
[19:58] <master3000> ?
[19:58] <KenSentMe> Dryft1, it's closed since gutsy went stable
[19:58] <Jordan_U> dryrot, There is no unstable release right now, so no channel for it :_)
[19:58] <master3000> germany kubuntu chat
[19:59] <go|dfish> master3000: #kubuntu-de
[19:59] <unit3> Pirate_Hunter: it'll work with any video card, you just only get hardware acceleration on cards that have direct rendering.
[19:59] <amr> hello i have installed gusty rc1
[19:59] <Journeyman> I can't get the cube to enable
[19:59] <mpetersen> unit3: does us.archive.ubuntu.com do round robin?  I doubt canada and the us really have different servers...
[19:59] <mrj> i miss #ubuntu+1
[19:59] <jhasse> master3000, yes
[19:59] <KenSentMe> dryrot, it's closed since gutsy went stable
[19:59] <Jordan_U> !de | master3000
[19:59] <ubotu> master3000: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:59] <mpetersen> maybe I should try se or uk or something...
[19:59] <dryrot> i accidentally left it, i feel uncool now
[19:59] <unit3> mpetersen: err, it does round robin of us servers, ca.archive.ubuntu.com does round robin of canadian servers, they *are* different.
[19:59] <codeblue002> s
[19:59] <mpetersen> naw, they are different, us and ca
[19:59] <unit3> mpetersen: that's what I just said, yes.
[19:59] <IpMooBeta> .ca server is dead slow
[19:59] <Pirate_Hunter> unit3: at the moment i cant use any desktop effects so can you help me out?
[19:59] <amr> and updated gusty rc1 but still when i type | uname -a| i get that it's pre release kernel
[20:00] <Jordan_U> I can ping my machine and I can ssh in but not get a shell, should I pull the plug?
[20:00] <DerDritte> PovAddict: Think I did it, thx anyway :)
[20:00] <unit3> Pirate_Hunter: sure, open private chat with me.
[20:00] <mpetersen> unit3: I know, I did a nslookup and typed that before I saw what you said...
[20:00] <kritzstapf> xrandr -s fooxbar does not work anymore, whats the?
[20:00] <mrj> If you guys are trying to download, it'd make sense to use the torrent considering it's release day
[20:00] <mrj> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[20:00] <unit3> IpMooBeta: try the arcticnetwork mirror, it's quite fast for me.
[20:00] <mrj> It's at the bottom and I'm getting almost 1.5mbps
[20:00] <ARJones> jhasse: Thanks. I guess I'm going to stick with metacity since it seems to be working well. I can just change gnome's themes by downloading some. I'm not going to push my luck lol
[20:00] <Marfi> download day!!!  =)
[20:00] <codeblue002> can anyone help me with my usb hdd?
[20:00] <mrj> Actually I just finished so I'll seed
[20:00]  * IpMooBeta il runn the beta   till the disks get here, then clean install
[20:00] <Journeyman> do you have to restart X to get the cube to be enabled?
[20:00] <nalioth> codeblue002: don't ask to ask. just ask your question
[20:00] <comosicus> i whant to make a partition on hard...i have ubunt 7.04...........
[20:00] <Mmph> get it quick before Reddit and Digg get it in the front page :D
[20:01] <mrj> it was dugg this morning
[20:01] <Marfi> comosicus, gnome partition manager
[20:01] <eTiger13> i mapped my keyboards sleep button to lock the screen. this worked up until this last kernel. now it locks the screen and then hibernates or shuts down my computer. how can i get it to just lock the screen only again
[20:01] <mrj> all the http links are crap right now, no point in downloading it via those
[20:01] <mpetersen> unit3: I think maybe it's just too slow...
[20:01] <codeblue002> ok my usb hdd wont show up on fdisk -l
[20:01] <comosicus> i do not know how to do that
[20:01] <codeblue002> the indication lights on the hdd indicate it is working
[20:01] <DerDritte> PovAddict: Update running, thx again.
[20:01] <kahrytan> How do you show Home folder on desktop now?
[20:01] <Marfi> link to the ubuntu torrent:   http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/ubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[20:01] <unit3> mpetersen: yeah, maybe, since it is release day. :)
[20:02] <comosicus> i opened gnome partition manager......and that.........pich black
[20:02] <mpetersen> where is close besides us and ca?  what's mexico?  mx?
[20:02] <PovAddict> Marfi: that's the DVD, most people dont need that
[20:02] <PovAddict> mpetersen: yes
[20:02] <unit3> mpetersen: it depends on your ISP, some isps have good links to europe, some don't
[20:02] <PovAddict> mpetersen: getting slow download?
[20:02] <jhasse> How can i generate wep keys?
[20:02] <Marfi> oops, linked wrong one.
[20:02] <ARJones> lol that was weird. I tested suspend and my laptop got like halfway suspended. Fan was turned off, but power light stayed on and no amount of key pressing could bring it back to ligef
[20:02] <ARJones> *life
[20:02] <unit3> jhasse: google "generate wep keys" :P
[20:02] <desiretosee> I lost my email account! can anyone help?please...
[20:02] <amr> does any one here got ubuntu final installed , can he post here the uname -a
[20:02] <codeblue002> come on ppl i need to get my HL2 off my hdd
[20:02] <unit3> amr: sure, just a sec
[20:02] <PovAddict> desiretosee: how's that related to ubuntu?
[20:03] <mrj> You lost your email account?
[20:03] <amr> thank you uit3
[20:03] <unit3> amr: Linux RoH 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:03] <j0rd> i've never installed x64 linux. Is it worth it if i have a core2 duo? or should i avoid hassles and conflicts and install x32 version?
[20:03] <A[D]minS> !sources.list
[20:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[20:03] <amr> unit3 : thank you
[20:03] <mpetersen> PovAddict: Actually, getting botched release files...
[20:03] <A[D]minS> !EasySource
[20:03] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[20:03] <unit3> j0rd: only thing I use 32bit is flash plugin in firefox, the rest I run 64 bit native. you should be fine.
[20:03] <mpetersen> PovAddict: specifically for dapper
[20:03] <Pici> j0rd: I'd avoid hassles if I was you
[20:03] <unit3> amr: np
[20:03] <comosicus> marfi my bad......gnoe partition editor is in my comp.......so i need gnome partition manager
[20:03] <swill> FYI - I updated from 7.04 to 7.10.  i was having major issues with firefox (when typing it would render about 1 char per second).  kate would not even load.  I was noticing from top that XGL was spiking to about 98% of my cpu when trying to work with these programs.  i was having slow downs in a couple other places in my desktop environment...  i did the following:  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl and it has solved my problem...  (special thanks to crdlb)...
[20:03] <lgc_> How do I restart ALSA from the command line? Thanks.
[20:03] <desiretosee> I use ubuntu system to open that emailadresse
[20:03] <unit3> Well, this channel is mental, and it's not helping me get my openoffice problem solved, I should've know better to come in here on release day. ;)
[20:03] <Pirate_Hunter> unit3: you still around?
[20:04] <Marfi> comosicus, its fine. sudo apt-get install gparted
[20:04] <adante> hi, X just stopped responding to my mouse
[20:04] <studying> hoary > gutsy
[20:04] <mrj> I highly doubt SMTP/POP3 changed from 7.04 to 7.10
[20:04] <unit3> Pirate_Hunter: yeah, I opened a private chat with you, talk to me there.
[20:04] <mpetersen> now it's work... sweden and netherlands.
[20:04] <Marfi> comosicus, or gpartd, always forget how it is spelled. =)
[20:04] <IpMooBeta> unit3:   hehe
[20:04] <adante> cat /dev/input/mice shows the mouse is still working
[20:04] <jhasse> unit3, does a command exist in linux?
[20:04] <studying> adante: is it a usb mouse?
[20:04] <comosicus> i did that allready
[20:04] <adante> studying: yeah
[20:04] <david2251> Hello, ihave a problem with gutsy
[20:04] <mpetersen> apt-proxy might get tired of waiting for the US server I guess...
[20:04] <Symmetria> hrm, whats the command line command to upgrade from feisty to gutsy (update-manager needs a gui and Im working remotely)
[20:04] <david2251> it will not boot
[20:04] <j0rd> Pici: you tried it before? Any issues?
[20:04] <studying> adante: i've had the same problem. couldn't figure it out
[20:04] <W9ZEB> is today the official go live for 7.10?
[20:04] <adante> i removed a usb mass storage device about the same time, but thats about it
[20:04] <Pici> j0rd: With 32 bits? never
[20:04] <Marfi> W9ZEB, yup
[20:04] <Pici> W9ZEB: yes, its out
[20:04] <codeblue002> im having a problem with my usb harddrive, i cant mount it and it dosnt show up in fdisk -l  any help would be great
[20:04] <comosicus> but gpartd make partition if you dont have any operating sistem
[20:04] <amr> this is my uname -a |"Linux amr-laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:04] <amr> " but i have updated my kernel and it says it still prerelease
[20:04] <W9ZEB> grats to the Ubuntu team :)
[20:05] <adante> studying: hm, did you just restart x?
[20:05] <eTiger13> david2251: you should take care of that before you try installing/running ubuntu
[20:05] <david2251> I have tried update and CD, both will not boot
[20:05] <darkdevil85> guys just 2 question before installing gutsy: 1) 15 gb in total are ok for the system? 2) if i have 2 gb of physical ram,what would be the size for the swap partition?
[20:05] <mpetersen> Ok, anyone watching, dapper isn't broken... just the server is too slow.  It may have something to do with apt-proxy, but not really sure.
[20:05] <W9ZEB> I've been running it since last thursday.  but always good to see final :)
[20:05] <j0rd> Pici:  you tried x64? did you have a bad experience?
[20:05] <Marfi> comosicus, you will probably ahve to boot a live CD and change it like that
[20:05] <Nighthawk420> are there any major differences with 7.10 compared to 7.04  with compiz?
[20:05] <comosicus> but i'll  try one more time
[20:05] <eTiger13> w9zeb: read the ubuntu homepage?
[20:05] <dryrot> Symmetria: edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list ; change all instances of 'feisty' to 'gutsy' ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:05] <W9ZEB> eTiger13: not since thursday....  think it said 7days then.
[20:05] <Nighthawk420> i just installed 7.10 and yea looks lik my 7.04 with compiz hehe
[20:05] <david2251> how should I?
[20:05] <Symmetria> thanks
[20:05] <billybong1> where do I go to look at a print queue these days?
[20:05] <DerDritte> PovAddict: Could not calculate the upgrade
[20:06] <DerDritte> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[20:06] <DerDritte> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bug report.
[20:06] <alain> anyone have installed kiba in gutsy
[20:06] <Schmallon> Anybody else having problems starting firefox on 7.10? It segfaults for me
[20:06] <DerDritte> wtf happened?
[20:06] <eTiger13> schmallon: nope
[20:06] <mpetersen> Symmetria: you need to manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change feisty to gutsy.  'apt-get update' 'apt-get dist-upgrade' but be careful.
[20:06] <codeblue002> Is it possible to upgrade my feisty to gutsy on an encrypted LVM (all encrypted except /boot)
[20:06] <kishan> how to install awn in gusty is there any repositry
[20:06] <eTiger13> DerDritte: Release day
[20:06] <Matt37R> arg, man, I thought this was going to be easy to try Linux...
[20:06] <avsa242> Has anyone else with Broadcom wifi (groan) ever had mostly dropped packets in X, but switch to a vc and have it work perfectly?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> ssh user@ip /bin/dash should make the ssh session start dash instead of bash, correct?
[20:07] <eTiger13> codeblue002: should be able to
[20:07] <doofy`> whew the repos are hurting for sure :o
[20:07] <DerDritte> eTiger13: Releaseday happened?
[20:07] <cld2> kishan: this works for gutsy also: http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/UbuntuFeistyHowTo
[20:07] <eTiger13> DerDritte: yup. all the servers are going to be full for awhile
[20:07] <Matt37R> First I get a MP-BIOS Bug:8254 error, then I the graphics are all messed up for the eVGA 7900 GT/GTO card
[20:07] <mpetersen> Symmetria: I'm pretty sure you'll need to do a dist-upgrade for the last step, normally upgrade would hold back all kinds of things for this type of update.
[20:07] <eurico_> Ubuntu doesn't detect my CD device
[20:07] <lgc_> Symmetria, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and change "feisty" to "gutsy". Do 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. That should do, but expect bottlenecks today and a few days from now.
[20:07] <DerDritte> eTiger13: I'm installing from an alternate cd...
[20:07] <codeblue002> its just everytime iv tryed to update my kernel my system wont boot
[20:07] <Masticore-> guide to wine (gutsy) ?
[20:07] <Matt37R> anyone else able to get their 7900 GT card working?
[20:08] <codeblue002> im having a problem with my usb harddrive, i cant mount it and it dosnt show up in fdisk -l  any help would be great
[20:08] <dogwater> does anyone know where i can find a manual for kickstarting ubuntu?
[20:08] <roote> hi! how do i get vesafb after boot?
[20:08] <adante> hi guys, i run gnome-session in both vnc and local X, is there a way to keep the settings seperate
[20:08] <boskantman> join /ubuntu-nl
[20:08] <Symmetria> heh lgc I wont have bottlenecks *grin* Im rather close to za.releases.ubuntu.com and za.archive.ubuntu.com... as in... they are on the same gigE switch as the box Im upgrading :p
[20:08] <arang2> anyone could point me to the page with the md5 of the gutsy ISO? i wanna check that i got it right
[20:08] <IcemanV9> Masticore-: sudo aptitude install wine
[20:08] <Shapeshifter> As soon as I connect to a vpn server my network connection gets lost. This wasn't the case with feisty. What to do?
[20:08] <dryrot> codeblue002: look for what device your computer sees the usb drive as, "dmesg | grep usb" will probably help
[20:08] <PovAddict> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/MD5SUMS
[20:08] <PovAddict> arang2: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/MD5SUMS
[20:08] <IpMooBeta> codeblue002:    did it work  at all befor
[20:08] <stray77> MD5sums -> http://pastebin.com/m28d5be1d
[20:09] <pedro> hi there
[20:09] <arang2> thank u guys
[20:09] <doofy`> is the partner repo the new commercial repo?
[20:09] <mc44> doofy`: yes
[20:09] <Pirate_Hunter> unit3: I have typed to you a couple of times, can't you see my messages
[20:09] <greencookie> whassaap
[20:09] <cld2> arang2: d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c  Desktop/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[20:09] <codeblue002> IpMooBeta, it worked on a previous install of feisty
[20:09] <lgc_> Symmetria, lucky you!
[20:09] <greencookie> MasterShrek:  Hello:D
[20:09]  * IpMooBeta good thats what i ment  7.05
[20:09] <IpMooBeta> 7.04
[20:09] <lungtoys> is there an ATI linux driver chat room?
[20:09] <aroo> Anyone needing a fast torrent option for 7.10 --> http://ubuntu.gds.tuwien.ac.at/cdimage/releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[20:10] <lgc_> codeblue002, try manual mount with pmount.
[20:10] <usor> Now that I have Ubuntu 7.10 installed where do I go to enable the 3D Cube and what not for compiz fusion???
[20:10] <aroo> 4389 peers, 2000 seeders
[20:10] <KenSentMe> lungtoys, it think there is #ati
[20:10] <greencookie> !ati | lungtoys
[20:10] <ubotu> lungtoys: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:10] <p512o> lol! I aborted the online upgrade with update-manager and use the alternate cd now. but still about 1000 packages are going to be downloaded! :7 Are these leftovers from my previous update attempt or is this normal? I chose _not_ to get online updates with the cdrom update-manager btw..
[20:10] <eurico_> Ubuntu doesn't detect my CD device
[20:10] <Shapeshifter> As soon as I connect to a vpn server my network connection gets lost. This wasn't the case with feisty. What to do?
[20:10] <mc44> usor: System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual effects
[20:10] <pedro> any knows why appear a "Workspace Switcher" on my desktop? and how can i remove it  ?
[20:10] <gspr> Should apt-get still be talking about "processing triggers" for libc6 after the gutsy upgrade is complete?
[20:10] <buh> hi, i upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 with update-manager. it downloaded everything. it started to upgrade/install for an hour had some errors with cpucups/gnome-theme/ubuntu desktop it continued for 30 mins or so then stoped telling me somthing like "cant continue. your system maybe unusable". how can i reupgrade/unupgrade/fix this ?
[20:10] <Symmetria> heh I was torrenting earlier but the za mirrors flattened my bandwidth as it was so killed the torrent seeds
[20:10] <usor> mc44: Ok, thanks
[20:10] <mc44> usor: or install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:10] <codeblue002> lgc_,  i dont know what /dev/* it is at fdisk -l wont show it?
[20:10] <dryrot> aroo: i think all the torrents trackers for ubuntu talk to each other dont they
[20:10] <pedro> any knows why appear a "Workspace Switcher" on my desktop? and how can i remove it  ?
[20:10] <gspr> buh: Let me know when you get an answer, ok? I'm in a similar situation.
[20:11] <eTiger13> gspr: yes
[20:11] <greencookie> pedro: Right click on workspace manager and remove panel
[20:11] <stray77> usor, i used this page -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/
[20:11] <Balaams_Miracle> usor: right-click desktop, tab Visual Effects.
[20:11] <buh> ok same to you
[20:11] <gspr> eTiger13: Really? Isn't that a bit weird?
[20:11] <Pirate_Hunter> Isnt it just annoying when someone offers to help and they swap there name so now im invisble to them yet i can read the messages they send me in private
[20:11] <lgc_> codeblue002, try dmesg and see if it appears.
[20:11] <PovAddict> dryrot: they are all identical .torrents
[20:11] <greencookie> pedro: right click and remove from panel
[20:11] <Masticore-> IcemanV9, I dont get the config tool for wine :<
[20:11] <mrj> The Beta/RC installs will update right to the released install today right
[20:11] <ejer> gspr: it is not weird
[20:11] <keanu> for some reason apt-get hasn't found a single package that's upgradeable in the past few days - has it been that quiet, or is it having some sort of problem?
[20:11] <cld2> codeblue002: a usb drive will usually be the first free scsi disk, so maybe sdb?
[20:11] <stray77> usor, sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:11] <codeblue002> lgc_, i get loads of this usb 1-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[20:11] <eTiger13> gspr: it was a change to how it works.
[20:11] <IcemanV9> usor: 3D cube is in compizconfig-settings-manager package
[20:11] <usor> mc44: What is the apt get command look like for installing that
[20:11] <usor> stray77: Ok, I gotcha thanks
[20:11] <usor> thanks
[20:12] <stray77> np
[20:12] <KenSentMe> keanu, i think your system was up to date for a few days
[20:12] <aroo> I'm guessing the apt mirror scan at Ubuntu Install is being hammered right now?
[20:12] <KenSentMe> keanu, i havent had updates today either
[20:12] <greencookie> IcemanV9: wont i need to install 3d drivers for my ati card before compiz fusion?
[20:12] <keanu> KenSentMe, so even though Gutsy was released today, there hasn't been any since, Saturday or Sunday?
[20:12] <IcemanV9> Masticore-: boy, i haven't used wine in a long time. there is command to bring it up ... hopefully someone will give ya the answer
[20:12] <dryrot> did someone write apt-download-all-the-crap-you-need-by-torrent yet ?
[20:12] <KenSentMe> keanu, could be
[20:12] <Mmph> greencookie, yes you need 3d drivers
[20:13] <stray77> greencookie, i had to install the restricted nvidia drivers first
[20:13] <lgc_> codeblue002, then at least it is recognized.
[20:13] <keanu> KenSentMe, ok...hope there isn't a problem with apt
[20:13] <greencookie> That blows! I try to install 3d drivers and cant:( I'm ati based card
[20:13] <codeblue002> loolz
[20:13] <ejer> keanu: u shld have had updates in last 3 days
[20:13] <Bluespear> Could a key like : ...5ç3fmas(#alk..... causes problems to wpa supplicant ? I cannot make it connect to the ap
[20:13] <IcemanV9> greencookie: in the terminal, type glxinfo | grep direct (if yes, then you're all set)
[20:13] <aroo> Is there a way to skip the "Configuring apt... scanning the mirror" step at Ubuntu Install on LiveCD? It seems as though the step is taking forever because of everyone trying to do it right now.
[20:13] <Vlet> dryrot: no, perhaps you should :)
[20:13] <keanu> ejer, that's what I would have thought, but there hasn't been
[20:13] <KenSentMe> keanu, if you can run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade without errors i dont think there is something wrong
[20:13] <codeblue002> yeah but theres pages of it so somthing may be wrong
[20:13] <emet> hi
[20:13] <ejer> aroo: kill your internet? not sure what will happen :)
[20:14] <p512o> DShepherd, have you tried the alternate iso already? I am atm. but it will still try to download ~1000 packages from the repositires! why that?
[20:14] <keanu> KenSentMe, no errors, not nothing is upgradeable....just seems a little odd to me
[20:14] <greencookie> IcemanV9: glxinfo | grep direct gives me a null:(
[20:14] <KenSentMe> keanu, you run gutsy or feisty?
[20:14] <keanu> KenSentMe, gutsy
[20:14] <studying> why isn't my usb printer being detected?
[20:14] <KenSentMe> keanu, then i wouldn't worry
[20:14] <studying> it was detected in breezy and dapper
[20:14] <max___> gutsy rules!
[20:14] <emet> dryrot, there is apt-torrent yes and once ubuntu gets more mainstream I think ISPs will host repositories
[20:14] <JC_Denton_> :s amsn is unable to find tcl despite version v8.5 being installed (according to synaptic)
[20:14] <arnath> hi, i am using evolution for my mails and i have one gmail account in it and some other accounts. Everytime i try to send something with the other accounts and i press send/receive, evolution tries to send the mail through smtp.gmail.com instead of the ones i indicated in the settings of evolution for that specific account. Anyone know why?
[20:14] <keanu> KenSentMe, ok, thanks
[20:15] <cox377> any current major issues with the gutsy upgrade?
[20:15] <Cryoniq> Anyone with a Logitech G7 mouse that got it working under Gusty with extra buttons?
[20:15] <amr> HELLO , IS THERE AN APP TO CONFIGURE LAPTOP POWERSAVING MODE
[20:15] <IcemanV9> greencookie: ah. okay. you'll need to install restricted driver for ATI then. by the way, which version?
[20:15] <desertc> If I have a couple packages (the kernel) that are not fully updated, then should I upgrade to Gutsy?
[20:15] <KenSentMe> arnath, what happens if you disable the gmail account?
[20:15] <Vlet> cox377: not for the most part
[20:15] <nalioth> amr: caps lock stuck?
[20:15] <pablo> Hi, I want to ask a question
[20:15] <openforlife> Most problems with 7.10 can be read and fixed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710
[20:15] <thebigham> How do i set Thunar as the default manager in gutsy?????
[20:15] <_MrPink_> !ask pablo
[20:15] <cox377> Vlet: well here goes lol
[20:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask pablo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:15] <cox377> Vlet: is there anyway to come back?
[20:15] <UbuntuGuy> Hey all.  Any tips on getting images on the top and bottom of the cube in gutsy?
[20:15] <arnath> KenSentMe: hmm, didn't know you could disable one, i shall see if i can find out how to :p
[20:15] <greencookie> IcemanV9: is there a way of finding out which one I have? lspci gives me unknown ati card
[20:15] <_MrPink_> !question | pablo
[20:15] <JC_Denton_> !tcl
[20:15] <PovAddict> one questionmark is enough
[20:16] <ubotu> pablo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[20:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:16] <Vlet> cox377: not really... reinstall :)
[20:16] <KenSentMe> arnath, in Edit-Preferences
[20:16] <pablo> may I upgrade to Giusty in console text  mode by using apt-get distupgrade like in Debian?
[20:16] <arnath> KenSentMe: ah yes, it still uses gmail server though
[20:16] <IcemanV9> greencookie: i am sorry. which version of ubuntu? what kind of laptop are you using?
[20:16] <mc44> pablo: use sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:16] <pike_> pablo: but yes
[20:16] <pablo> mc44: thanks!
[20:17] <dindinx> Is there a live CD for Gutsy?
[20:17] <mc44> dindinx: yes
[20:17] <arnath> KenSentMe: also, its possible i have to reset the smtp port to something else on some other accounts, but i can't seem to find a way to set the ports?
[20:17] <Vlet> amr: Have you tried the System >> preferences >> Power Management control panel yet?
[20:17] <KenSentMe> arnath, hmm that seems strange, and you are sure the smtp server for the other accounts is set to something else?
[20:17] <n1rvana> кто
[20:17] <n1rvana> здесь
[20:17] <p512o> Has anyone of you tried the alternate iso already? I am atm. but it will still download ~1000 packages from the repositories! why's that? same with you?
[20:17] <greencookie> IcemanV9: ubuntu 7.04 using it on my Amd 64 desktop and it has an ATI card.
[20:17] <mc44> !ru | n1rvana
[20:17] <ubotu> n1rvana: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[20:17] <PovAddict> dindinx: the desktop install CD is live
[20:17] <thebigham> How do i set THunar as the default file manager in gutsy??????????
[20:17] <NoFearDJB> I got a message saying CPU Frequency Scaling Unsupported when a couple of weeks ago it was working fine, any suggestions?
[20:17] <arnath> KenSentMe: yes, quite sure, in the "sending" part i have a different server for each one
[20:17] <codeblue002> lgc_, anymore ideas on how to get my drive mounted
[20:17] <greencookie> !in
[20:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:17] <Kilroo> Anyone have any idea why my multimedia keys had keysyms in Feisty with no xmodmap and in gutsy they all register as keysym 0x0? I'm somewhat loathe to use xmodmap when I didn't have to before.
[20:17] <KenSentMe> arnath, i wouldn't. can't check it atm, running windows
[20:17] <thebigham> !thunar
[20:17] <ubotu> thunar is a File Manager for XFCE. It is a lightweight alternative Nautilus and is quite similar. More info at: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html - Want to Replace Nautilus with Thunar? see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
[20:17] <KenSentMe> arnath, that should be enough
[20:18] <Vlet> NoFearDJB: Perhaps that feature was not stable enough for the final release, so was taken out
[20:18] <amr> VLET, YES BUT IT DOEN'T GET THE MAX OF MY BATTERY , xp DOES IT BETTER BY 1 HOUR
[20:18] <nex1> Anyone have a guide for composite working on Dell 6400 with ATI x1400 yet?
[20:18] <KenSentMe> !caps | amr
[20:18] <greencookie> IcemanV9: ubuntu 7.04 using it on my Amd 64 desktop and it has an ATI card.
[20:18] <ubotu> amr: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:18] <NoFearDJB> it was in feisty....
[20:18] <lgc_> codeblue002, are you invoking fdisk as root or with sudo?
[20:18] <Vlet> amr: turn off caps lock :)
[20:18] <arnath> KenSentMe: i already contacted my email provider and they suggested altering the port, but i simply cant find it :s
[20:18] <codeblue002> lgc_, sudo
[20:18] <borovy3488> how is gutsy running for everyone?
[20:18] <IcemanV9> greencookie: ooooh. 64-bit pc. i'm not an expert on that kind of bit. i don't know if there is an issue or not for ATI & 64-bit.
[20:18] <Vlet> borovy3488: very well, thanks
[20:18] <codeblue002> lgc_, Root disabled
[20:18] <arnath> borovy3488: great for now, only 1 tiny bug ;)
[20:18] <cld2> borovy3488: freaking great!
[20:18] <amr> vlet, sorry i pressed it and didn't notice
[20:18] <arnath> which is fixed with a gnome reboot
[20:18] <KenSentMe> arnath, maybe you could ask on the GimpNet irc server in the #evolution channel
[20:18] <DerDritte> Anyone upgraded with alternate so far?!?
[20:18] <eurico_> borovy3488, bad. I don't have my CDROM device detected by  Ubuntu
[20:19] <dryrot> DerDritte: I did
[20:19] <dindinx> thanks.
[20:19] <openforlife> Most problems with 7.10 can be read and fixed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710
[20:19] <arnath> KenSentMe: ok great thx :)
[20:19] <borovy3488> thats awesome news guys.  What time did it actually get released
[20:19] <IcemanV9> greencookie: let me check ....
[20:19] <NoFearDJB> anyone know where i can find a guide to installing services with cpu scaling?
[20:19] <Vlet> amr: That's not a very specific question... perhaps you could search http://ubuntuforums.com/ about reducing power consumption
[20:19] <DerDritte> dryrot: Not working for me: 2007-10-18 21:15:43,103 DEBUG Installing 'language-support-it' (Distro KeepInstalledSection rule: translations)
[20:19] <DerDritte> 2007-10-18 21:15:54,143 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[20:19] <greencookie> IcemanV9: thanks for your help. BTW I'm a total linux newbie and dunno if im using the 64bit linux or not.
[20:19] <codeblue002> lgc_,  fdisk -l shows my internal drives (sda,sdb)
[20:19] <thyagobr> greencookie: did you already try to update your drivers using envy?
[20:19] <arnath> KenSentMe: is that gimpnet.org or gimpnet.net or...?
[20:19] <Vlet> amr: Do you have desktop effects turned on?
[20:19] <greencookie> whats envy
[20:19] <lgc_> codeblue002, then it should appear. I did some test plugging in an USB stick and it got recognized, but I did the same with my USB spare drive and nothing seems to happen (damn!).
[20:19] <amr> yes
[20:19] <KenSentMe> arnath, are you running xchat?
[20:19] <borovy3488> can I use this channel for gutsy issues now?
[20:19] <greencookie> thyagobr: right now I'm using vesa driver i think,
[20:19] <Vlet> amr: Well there ya go
[20:19] <amr> vlet ,yes
[20:19] <Kilroo> borovy3488, pretty well for the most part, I'm just irritated that I can't figure out why my multimedia keyboard keys no longer have usable keysyms by default.
[20:19] <arnath> KenSentMe: pidgin
[20:19]  * billzecat scrambles to free 250MB of space in /usr...
[20:20] <Marfi> how do you update from the CD?
[20:20] <Vlet> amr: that's a pretty big power hog
[20:20] <Marfi> cna you do it from the live CD itself?
[20:20]  * IpMooBeta usb stick works fine here
[20:20] <amr> vlet , you mean i have to turn it off
[20:20] <codeblue002> lgc_,  yeah my pen works but the drive dont
[20:20] <DerDritte> dryrot: did some aptitude autoclean before...
[20:20] <Nighthawk420> aight so what are the big new improvements on 7.10 other than compiz
[20:20] <Dekkard> so are the servers hammered(/me will wait)?
[20:20] <mc44> Nighthawk420: read the release notes on the website
[20:20]  * greencookie smokes a cigarette. Ah, so refreshing.
[20:20] <KenSentMe> arnath, irc.gimp.org
[20:20] <mrj> Who was asking if there were Gutsy updates since saturday/sunday?
[20:20] <Vlet> amr: if you want desktop effects, you're asking your video card to do a lot of work which requires more power.
[20:20] <amr> vlet but i love it , it's the reason i left windws to linux
[20:20] <arnath> KenSentMe: great, thanks again :)
[20:20] <dryrot> DerDritte: i cheated and copied all of the deb files off of the alternative iso, stuck them in a dir, followed directions for using a directory of deb files in /etc/apt/sources.list , temporarily got rid of all the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list that referred to a apt repo off on the internet somewhere, did apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:20] <greencookie> wait a second! 7.1??
[20:20] <borovy3488> does anyone know why flash movies and games would be either horrible quality, run slow, or crash firefox in gutsy???
[20:20] <KenSentMe> arnath, no problem
[20:20] <lgc_> codeblue002, let me try and remember how I usually go about it...
[20:20] <Vlet> amr: Life is hard.
[20:21] <IcemanV9> greencookie: lsb_release -a (will tell ya what version of ubuntu)
[20:21] <Marfi> how do you update from the live CD?
[20:21] <DerDritte> dryrot: sounds freaky :P
[20:21] <KenSentMe> borovy3488, no, but if you run firefox from terminal, do you get any errors?
[20:21] <pike_> borovy3488: sure youre using flash9
[20:21] <UbuntuGuy> Hey all.  Any tips on getting images on the top and bottom of the cube in gutsy?
[20:21] <cld2> Marfi: its a boot option I belive.
[20:21] <borovy3488> pike_:yes, I'm using flash9
[20:21] <IcemanV9> greencookie: great info on ATI -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:21] <Greyhound-> what's the next version of ubuntu gonna be ? I remember I read some release notes a few months ago that Gusty is more of a update for 7.04. The next version will be completely new.
[20:21] <codeblue002> lgc_,  can i reload the driver or something like that
[20:21] <Marfi> cld2, ty. =)
[20:21] <arnath> KenSentMe: hmm i cant seem to connect to it
[20:21] <borovy3488> KenSentMe: whats the command? just firefox?
[20:21] <Kilroo> greencookie, I think 7.1 is the next version of Mesa. Still in development I believe.
[20:21] <cld2> UbuntuGuy: #ubuntu-effects
[20:22] <genii> Nighthawk420: A not-bad article here as well http://tech.tolero.org/blog/en/linux/review-ubuntu-710-gutsy-features-changes
[20:22] <amr> is there any way to reduce the power consuption of VGA like that of CPU i.e. CPU scaling but for VGA
[20:22] <KenSentMe> borovy3488, i don't know exactly
[20:22] <Vlet> !ccsm | UbuntuGuy
[20:22] <lgc_> codeblue002, what do you mean by "driver"?
[20:22] <ubotu> UbuntuGuy: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz
[20:22] <greencookie> IcemanV9: thanks. I'm using fiesty it seems.
[20:22] <bernier> Hi, I am trying to apply a patch to a kernel I want to compile, but when running patch -p1 /usr/src/patch , the console just hang there and does nothing
[20:22] <cld2> amr: turn down the brightness?
[20:22] <greencookie> Kilroo: is it stable enough to install?
[20:22] <UbuntuGuy> join #ubuntu-effects
[20:22] <amr> cld2 , i did
[20:22] <codeblue002> lgc_,  "usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual"
[20:22] <pike_> amr: xgamma -gamma .5 or soemthing
[20:22] <DerDritte> dryrot: I'll try another sweep...
[20:22] <M_WS> 2 days ago I got rid of windows and installed Ubuntu on my laptop - now it doesn't find my wireless network (it does find other networks, just not mine) I'm considering switching back to windows. But before that, I would like to know if there is anything else that could cause it not finding my network. Any ideas?
[20:22] <borovy3488> KenSentMe: yes, I'm still getting the errors.  The command is "firefox"
[20:22] <amr> pike_ , what is that
[20:22] <bododo> wohaaa
[20:22] <bododo> :)
[20:23] <gspr> What file specifies what version I'm running? My Gutsy upgrade ALMOST completed, then hung. Gutsy boots fine, but adept_manager still reports an upgraded version available. Trying to upgrade gives me that I already have the latest version. Is there some file specifying which version I'm at?
[20:23] <cld2> amr: thats the only thing I could think of, unless you are asking about throttaling the gpu on a card. I dont know if you can do that.
[20:23] <lgc_> codeblue002, I don't know about that...
[20:23] <KenSentMe> borovy3488, but maybe the errors tell you more about the source of the problem
[20:23] <wastedfluid> lsb_release -a
[20:23] <borovy3488> pike_:any idea on how to fix the bad flash?
[20:23] <wastedfluid> gspr: lsb_release -a
[20:23] <KenSentMe> arnath, irc.gnome.org
[20:23] <pike_> borovy3488: no sorry
[20:23] <desertc> How do I run an upgrade with the CDROM image?
[20:23] <thyagobr> M_WS: when my wireless wasnt working it was because i forgot to turn it on =D lol
[20:23] <borovy3488> KenSentMe: no errors, it just starts.  I think its just a flash problem.
[20:23] <Vlet> amr: no matter what you do, with visual effects on, you're going to use more power per hour than you would with vanilla XP
[20:23] <bododo> guys, i download and installed GG RC1 that's 4 days, is there any revelent chanegs from that RC1 and the final release?
[20:23] <borovy3488> pike_: thanks ne way man
[20:23] <codeblue002> lgc_,  its one of the messeges i get from dmesg | grep usb
[20:23] <Kilroo> greencookie: I used it for a while and it worked somewhat, but the only reason I tried it was that I was having issues that prevented me from installing 7.0.1. I'm probably going to try fglrx when the next release comes out.
[20:23] <M_WS> thyagobr: I´m pretty sure i switched it on in the firmware
[20:23] <notv> hey guys, im curious-under what circumstances should someone get the alternate install of gutsy instead of the regular?
[20:24] <UbuntuGuy> ubotu -- tried that no luck
[20:24] <greencookie> Kilroo: Ah. ok.
[20:24] <arnath> KenSentMe: strange...its not connecting either? (quakenet works though)
[20:24] <TSWoodV> Some of the .isos available on bittorrent for the various releases of Ubuntu are DVD images that seem quite large.  I understand that the alternative and desktop installers are both on the DVDs, but that alone doesn't explain the large size.  What else is on the DVDs?
[20:24] <KenSentMe> bododo, there may be some minor changes, but they get fixed during regular updates
[20:24] <thyagobr> M_WS i mean the notebook switch... but that probably isnt the case very often =P
[20:24] <KenSentMe> arnath, huh?
[20:24] <nex1> The 3D stuff in Gutsy wont work with the "fglrx" driver?
[20:24] <Jeruvy> offhand what version of evolution is installed with Gutsy?
[20:24] <M_WS> thyagobr: yeah, it picks up other networks
[20:24] <Vlet> notv: if you can't get the regular one to boot properly, the alternate is a non-graphical installer
[20:24] <bododo> KenSentMe: any chance to have a changelog, please? :)
[20:24] <thyagobr> M_WS oh, i see
[20:24] <arnath> KenSentMe: maybe i'll get me xchat and try it there
[20:24] <Chillside|Fenom> Hey, why do I get this when I start Ubuntu? http://www.fuskbugg.se/pub/misc/_DSC01690.JPG
[20:24] <Pici> nex1: depends what card you have?
[20:24] <KenSentMe> bododo, i dont have it
[20:24] <Lumien> there were no updates to download on my RC when the official release went out
[20:24] <DUUUUUDE> hi guys, is there something like Download Accelerator plus?
[20:24] <amr> ok another q? how to read dvds burnt by vista
[20:24] <IcemanV9> greencookie: i'm using fglrx driver; worked great with Google Earth (a good app to test 3D)
[20:24] <DUUUUUDE> for linux
[20:24] <mrj> Can someone tell me what a broken Software index equates to
[20:24] <ejer> DUUUUUDE: downthemall for firefox
[20:25] <Leviel> alright!  i can now connect to the internet from ubuntu, which should make things a lot easier.  however, network with my RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ NIC is still not working;  or at least, i don't see any other computers on the network.  it's a wired home connection.
[20:25] <bododo> KenSentMe: do they publish one?
[20:25] <nex1> I have a x1400, it tells me the ATI restricted drive is installed
[20:25] <gspr> wastedfluid: lsb_release -a says Gutsy. Do you have any idea why adept still has a "Version upgrade" button?
[20:25] <DUUUUUDE> thnx ejer
[20:25] <Kilroo> notv: If you don't want to try it out for a while while still using some other operating system. But take that with a grain of salt, I consider the alternate to be normal and the livecd to be special case.
[20:25] <notv> i could not get the regular feisty install disk to boot on my laptop. do you think i will run into the same problem with gutsy?
[20:25] <nex1> but i cant activate the 3D stuff in the options
[20:25] <Pici> nex1: install xgl-server
[20:25] <KenSentMe> bododo, might be, i don't know really
[20:25] <Chillside|Fenom> Hey, why do I get this when I start Ubuntu? http://www.fuskbugg.se/pub/misc/_DSC01690.JPG The CD is ordered and it works on my dads computer, and both of us have AMD64 so it should work
[20:25] <Pici> nex1: You may need to restart X after that
[20:25] <`Matir> is it possible to do a server install from the livecd?  (just becasue i have the livecd handy)
[20:25] <greencookie> IcemanV9: the fglrx driver shows in my restricted drivers but when I enable it and restart x I get black blank screen
[20:25] <bododo> KenSentMe: thanks anyway :)
[20:25] <smallfoot-> i downloaded 7.10 gutsy today, then i saw a wubi file on the cd, and i clicked on it, and suddently it started to install stuff on my computer, without ask me
[20:25] <borovy3488> any other ideas on why flash would be slow or buggy??
[20:25] <KenSentMe> bododo, no problem
[20:25] <bododo> :)
[20:25] <DerDritte> What to do? 2007-10-18 21:23:44,903 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[20:25] <hwilde> RAM Question - Can 32bit ubuntu handle 8G of memory, or can only x64bit handle 8G ?
[20:25] <cld2> `Matir: no, you need the server cd
[20:26] <ejer> hwilde: nope, use x64
[20:26] <wastedfluid> gspr: I installed Gutsy with the CD this mornin.  When I FIRST "apt-get update --fix-missing" - and went to adept package manager, it said i had a distro upgrade too.. just do what you're doing, and ignore it.. because mine no longer says that.
[20:26] <Chillside|Fenom> Hey, why do I get this when I start Ubuntu? http://www.fuskbugg.se/pub/misc/_DSC01690.JPG The CD is ordered and it works on my dads computer, and both of us have AMD64 so it should work
[20:26] <lgc_> codeblue002, dmesg is a lower level utility. It helps mortals in knowing what /dev the device is assigned to, and if it's ever recognized, but not to much else, if you're not too technical.
[20:26] <ejer> Chillside|Fenom: try booting with noapic
[20:26] <`Matir> Chillside|Fenom, please don't repeat yourself
[20:26] <billzecat> Well, I solved my space dilemma - uninstall OOo...
[20:26] <Chillside|Fenom> ejer: with what?
[20:26] <bernier> Hi, I am trying to apply a patch to a kernel I want to compile, but when running patch -p1 /usr/src/patch , the console just hang there and does nothing
[20:26] <Lumien> who likes python?
[20:26] <Kilroo> Icemanv9: What's your card? r350's aren't supposed to be supported yet, and when I tried the latest fglrx anyhow it certainly handled compositing much faster but I got a lot of graphical anomalies.
[20:26] <Chillside|Fenom> `Matir: sorry
[20:26] <greencookie> IcemanV9: can I go sudo reconfigure-xorg to choose fglrx
[20:26] <arkygeek> hi. firefox is running but i cant see it... how do i kill it?  i did a killall firefox  but that didnt work
[20:26] <savvas> is it ok to use icedtea-java7-jre instead of java on amd64? is it compatible with the web java modules?
[20:26] <`Matir> Chillside|Fenom, as ejer mentioned, try editing the boot parameters to add noapic
[20:26] <notv> vlet, do you think if i need the alternate install for feisty i would also need the alternate install for gutsy?
[20:26] <arnath> KenSentMe: xchat seems to work, not sure why pidgin doesnt do it
[20:26] <IcemanV9> greencookie: it should work, but maybe one or two lines need to be tweaked a bit. post your xorg.conf via http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[20:27] <borovy3488> is your guys' apt-get update working???
[20:27] <therethinker> Does gutsy have the drivers and stuff for the bcm wireless cards-- or will I need to get those separately like on Fiesty?
[20:27] <Mmph> I have an IDE and a SATA hard drive, will this cause problems with my Ubuntu install?
[20:27] <notv> i have a newish ati card that needs the fglrx driver
[20:27] <savvas> borovy3488: yes
[20:27] <cld2> arkygeek: form a terminal pkill -9 firefox
[20:27] <KenSentMe> arnath, strange
[20:27] <therethinker> mmph: no
[20:27] <greencookie> IcemanV9: sorry to be such a noob but where do i find xorg.conf?
[20:27] <alonzo> hello
[20:27] <src> arkygeek, ps -aef|grep firefox|awk '{print $2}'|kill -9
[20:27] <Mmph> Cool thanke therethinker
[20:27] <therethinker> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:27] <youknowme> I can't upgrade to gutsy from feisty, the upgrade isn't listed in the manager, does this look right ? http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15rd451&s=2
[20:27] <humbolto> is there a way to disable the whole bulletproveX displayconfig-gtk magic?
[20:27] <Mmph> thanks^^
[20:27] <codeblue002> lgc_, it dosnt say any /dev just that is scanning it and assigned to address 5
[20:27] <codeblue002> ?
[20:27] <Chillside|Fenom> sorry but I dont get it
[20:27] <humbolto> this stuff just freaks out on me!
[20:27] <therethinker> you're welcome
[20:27] <alonzo> where is ubuntu frach?
[20:27] <humbolto> I don't want it!
[20:27] <alonzo> franch
[20:27] <The_Joe_> Hi, I'm on RealTek HD Intel wadamahoots and I only get sound through Headphones, no I'm not muted
[20:27] <borovy3488> savvas: it is saying that it can't connect to the server for me. for some odd reason.  I upgraded to gutsy RC from feisty, could that be a problem?
[20:27] <ejer> Chillside|Fenom: try shutting down and restarting
[20:27] <DerDritte> Alternate CD isn't working...
[20:28] <alonzo> ubuntu-fr
[20:28] <arkygeek> src thx
[20:28] <Chillside|Fenom> ejer: i've tried
[20:28] <usor> In Ubuntu 7.10 is there an easy way to encrypt for example a media file lets say a video but still have easy access to watching it without have to unencrypt it? I know programs like Truecrypt can do this, but is there anything built in? Perhaps it's possible to encryt it as an archive somehow and open the archive and watch it without extracting it?
[20:28] <KenSentMe> !fr | alonzo
[20:28] <ubotu> alonzo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:28] <alonzo> merci
[20:28] <savvas> borovy3488: change your software sources to an other mirror, system > administration > software sources
[20:28] <Marfi> how do i run an update from the live CD?
[20:28] <borovy3488> savvas: what should I change them to?
[20:28] <Light-> wow this chanel is insanely huge, and theres only one OP
[20:28] <lgc_> codeblue002, I finally had my USB drive working. I'd just plugged it the wrong way! Might it be your case?
[20:28] <ejer> Chillside|Fenom: update BIOS
[20:28] <greencookie> IcemanV9: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41115/
[20:29] <d1n0> i lost my titlebars after installing compiz... help?
[20:29] <KenSentMe> martii, are you running Ubuntu already?
[20:29]  * Light- has a knack for stating the obvious
[20:29] <jeroen__> damn
[20:29] <IcemanV9> greencookie: after installed fglrx, did you issue two commands: sudo aticonfig --initial AND sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv ?? (that solved my problem long ago)
[20:29] <jeroen__> no /leave command :/?
[20:29] <greencookie> IcemanV9: nops ill try that now
[20:29] <savvas> borovy3488: where are you from?
[20:29]  * arang2 says Gutsy RAWKS
[20:29] <ejer> Chillside|Fenom: at bootup, you can press F1 for help, you need to add the word noapic to boot parameters line... no guarantees this will work
[20:29] <billzecat> d1n0: Run ccsm and make sure window decoration's enabled? (you might also want to try #ubuntu-effects)
[20:29] <borovy3488> savvas: US, Tennessee
[20:29] <Vlet> jeroen__: in what?
[20:29] <savvas> borovy3488: try the main server or us
[20:29] <codeblue002> lgc_, tried that and got a error on dmesg  usb 1-2: config 1 has an invalid interface number: 1 but max is 0
[20:29] <borovy3488> savvas: it was on the main server
[20:29] <Chillside|Fenom> ejer: could something get fucked up if it doesn't work?
[20:29] <d1n0> billybob, the guys in #ubuntu-effects screwed me over... that's why im having this problem now
[20:30] <LjL> !language
[20:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[20:30] <savvas> borovy3488: ok then try US, the main might be busy, I'm on a UK server myself
[20:30] <KenSentMe> Marfi, do you already have ubuntu installed?
[20:30] <lgc_> codeblue002, does your drive cable have 3 connectors?
[20:30] <borovy3488> savvas: I'm using htp://c.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu.  is that ok?
[20:30] <humbolto> Somebody help me.
[20:30] <ejer> Chillside|Fenom: nopt with noapic
[20:30] <IcemanV9> greencookie: ah ha. it is still show "vesa". it should show "fglrx".
[20:30] <humbolto> I got a smoking nvidia card.
[20:30] <wastedfluid> whew, the updates are speeding up. i guess the gutsy frenzy is over for now.. only to last until tonight :-)
[20:30] <Vlet> d1n0: It sounds like compiz is not working correctly
[20:30] <billzecat> d1n0: But did you check ccsm to ensure that window decoration is enabled?  I had the same problem migrating from beryl to compiz recently.
[20:30] <Michael001> Ubuntu 7.10 screwed up my filesystem and networking
[20:30] <codeblue002> lgc_, its an old usb1
[20:30] <Vlet> d1n0: perhaps you should disable it
[20:31] <Marfi> KenSentMe, yes. i used the beta of 7.10, and there were a few things that were buggy. i mainly wanted to do it to restore the few things  =)
[20:31] <codeblue002> lgc_, 4 pin
[20:31] <humbolto> And freaking displayconfig-gtk + failsafe X keep fooling me around.
[20:31] <therethinker> So, does gutsy support bcm cards?
[20:31] <greencookie> ok im going to try to use fglrx now..what is the command line?
[20:31] <Michael001> so ill just wait for 7.10 wubi to come out
[20:31] <IcemanV9> greencookie: once you done those stuff, you'll need to restart X (ctrl + ati + backspace)
[20:31] <savvas> borovy3488: no, I don't know what country "c" is :) make that "us"
[20:31] <KenSentMe> Marfi, if you run the beta then just keep installing updates and your system will be the final release
[20:31] <borovy3488> savvas: OK, thanks
[20:31] <dpml> Doing a check in update manager raises errors stating that http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com repositories are unavailable.  Is there an IRC channel specifically dealing with those repositories?
[20:31] <humbolto> My nvidia card used to work until beta if or the last tribe release before that!
[20:31] <IcemanV9> greencookie: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:31] <greencookie> IcemanV9: can u tell me the command line to reconfigure x to defaults in case I crash
[20:31] <savvas> borovy3488: you know how to manually change it right? gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:31] <codeblue002> lgc_, my good 2.0 usb broke cos i pulled it out early while copying a file
[20:32] <Marfi> KenSentMe, ty. =)
[20:32] <humbolto> But now I can't get it to work with a higher res than 640x480!
[20:32] <KenSentMe> Marfi, no problems
[20:32] <borovy3488> savvas: yes, I know. i'm just hesitant about changing that because it messed up my computer once.
[20:32] <lgc_> codeblue002, I don't follow you. Does it have normal USB connectors?
[20:32] <IcemanV9> greencookie: best thing is to back up the xorg.conf, when it crashed .. you can copy the original xorg.conf back
[20:32] <usor> In GNOME 2.20 how do I use the Encrypt FIles utility that makes encrypted archives and what not?
[20:33] <KenSentMe> humbolto, try running in recovery mode and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:33] <greencookie> IcemanV9: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41117/ after i ran those two commands
[20:33] <AncientPC> How do I ssh into another server without using a blank password when generating public / private keys?
[20:33] <arnath> KenSentMe: ah, it has been fixed, i just had to append the new portnumber to the mailserver and it works ;)
[20:33] <borovy3488> savvas: ok, I'm using the Georgia Tech Server
[20:33] <KenSentMe> arnath, nice :)
[20:33] <panosru> Hi, repos are down???
[20:33] <d1n0> anyone??
[20:33] <IcemanV9> greencookie: that's it! it should work.
[20:33] <d1n0> i've tried turning off decorations stuff in ccsm
[20:33] <codeblue002> one is a square conector and the other is normal but i think the pins are the same
[20:33] <Vlet> humbolto: It sounds like you might want to look into reconfiguring your xorg.conf manually
[20:33] <greencookie> ok ctrl +alt +backspace here goes.
[20:33] <panosru> repos are down???
[20:33] <DUUUUUDE> what is a good gui encryption program for files?
[20:34] <therethinker> yeah, they are,..
[20:34] <thyagobr> my beryl with this X1600 only worked when I gave up =D
[20:34] <billzecat> d1n0: No... you need to turn them on...
[20:34] <Vlet> d1n0: it sounds like compiz is not working correctly for you. Perhaps you should disable it.
[20:34] <ejer> DUUUUUDE: truecrypt
[20:34] <savvas> borovy3488: works now?
[20:34] <comicinker> hi! I have a ATI succesfully installed, but activating desktop effects causes this message:
[20:34] <comicinker> The Composite extension is not available
[20:34] <DUUUUUDE> ejer, thnx again :)
[20:34] <d1n0> Vlet, heh
[20:34] <ejer> :)
[20:34] <Azzkikr> didn't Gutsy have compiz enabled somewhere in the menus?
[20:34] <arnath> i have a small bug in gutsy: when i (re)boot it is possible that the headers for windows (so the part you use to drag them around and which contains the X button) are wrong (being: the font is very small). a reboot of xserver fixes it
[20:34] <comicinker> can somebody help me?
[20:34] <borovy3488> savvas: yea, it is downloading file 11 of 24, haha
[20:34] <Azzkikr> i cant seem to find it
[20:34] <savvas> borovy3488: great :)
[20:34] <usor> Truecrypt doesn't have a GUI for linux I thought!?!?!?!?!?
[20:34] <codeblue002> lgc_, one is a square conector and the other is normal but i think the pins are the same
[20:34] <linxuz3r> brb
[20:34] <linxuz3r> Wassssssup
[20:34] <linxuz3r> asdfpasodp
[20:34] <linxuz3r> sodifosidf
[20:34] <borovy3488> savvas: thanks
[20:35] <savvas> borovy3488: n/p :)
[20:35] <usor> ejer: There is a gui for the truecrypt linux version!?
[20:35] <Vlet> comicinker: Desktop effects will often not automatically work with ATI cards. You may need to do a lot of 'tweaking' to get it working, if at all
[20:35] <savvas> linxuz3r: change that keyboard, it's giving bad keys :]
[20:35] <|Lord_Zoo|> hi, is there a way to disable the scroll mouse button?
[20:35] <askand> How do I edit permission on my external drive so I can write/read?
[20:35] <ejer> usor: guess not, thought there was
[20:35] <comicinker> Vlet: is there a link for those tweaks?
[20:35] <|Lord_Zoo|> in gnome, sorry
[20:35] <dpml> repository http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com is offline ?
[20:35] <thyagobr> >> When I installed Kubuntu it changed my startup and login screens... is there any way to revert it back to ubuntu defaults?
[20:35] <usor> ejer: k
[20:35] <Vlet> comicinker: google.com
[20:36] <savvas> askand: what kind of filesystem? ntfs/fat/ext3?
[20:36] <Luca> hello
[20:36] <askand>  savvas: fat32
[20:36] <humbolto> How to turn off bulletprove X?
[20:36] <lgc_> codeblue002, I regret I don't know square USB connectors. The only ones I know are rectangular: the "normal" one and the "mini", which is not quite rectangular.
[20:36] <wanger> does anyone know why ubuntu uses UUIDs in /etc/fstab rather than just listing the /dev/whatevers? i mean, what's the benefit?
[20:36] <usor> How do I make an encrypted archive like a .zip file????
[20:36] <bcardarella> Vlet: are there any guides out there about ATI cards and desktop effects?
[20:36] <Wiseblood> Hi guys b4 I begin I have seardhed and searched and I havent quite found an answer to my problem (I have been trying to wing it for the past 3  days) so I figure now I ought to end my misery and come here to bother yall :P   My problem is with joystick drivers and emulation If someone could pm me to help that would be great (the PM is so i dont bother anyone else)
[20:36] <comicinker> Vlet: google.com
[20:36] <ejer> DUUUUUDE: look at kgpg for encryption
[20:36] <kishan> m_
[20:36] <pity> oi
[20:36] <savvas> askand: usb right? it should be read/write if it has no errors
[20:36] <dwxreaper> wanger: i read why on google
[20:36] <humbolto> X might be bulletprove now, but the 640x480 I get from it kill me instead!
[20:36] <dwxreaper> can't remember
[20:36] <pity> uiahsuaihs
[20:37] <[chr0n0s]> !ati
[20:37] <Luca> Can I install ubuntu 7.10 without messing up the windows vista bootmgr?
[20:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:37] <pity> ola alguem fala portugues ai?
[20:37] <savvas> askand: do you know its /dev/ path?
[20:37] <billzecat> GAH!  Need to free 64MB on /usr...
[20:37] <p512o> anyone tried upgrading feisty to gutsy with the alternate cd? I got some questions on that.
[20:37] <Leviel> ubuntu detects my network card (it's an RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+, fully supported); but i don't see any other computers on the network when i go place > network.  it's a wired home connection, and everybody else are still using windows.
[20:37] <panosru> repos are down???
[20:37] <Whitor> is there any support for fingerprint readers in Ubuntu?
[20:37] <panosru> repos are down???
[20:37] <Vlet> bcardarella, comicinker: yes there are many on ubuntuforums.org. It's just something way too specific to your particular vide card, and far too complex to walk through in a chat room
[20:37] <aroo> panosru, everyone is using them
[20:37] <aroo> panosru, expect lag
[20:37] <askand> savvas: yes../dev/sdb1
[20:37] <KenSentMe> Luca, how would you startup ubuntu then without a bootloader?
[20:37] <savvas> aroo: he left :p
[20:37] <pedro> i ve already installed the codecs for video but when i open a video in mplayer  appear one error?
[20:37] <wanger> dxreaper: ah cool, i did try googling, but the wikipedia page it turned up seemed to be referring to something else, i'll look harder, thanks =)
[20:37] <usor> panosru: Not down, just slow because of mass usage
[20:37] <mrj> p512o, You mean do an install with the alternate cd?
[20:37] <thyagobr> Hello all =D >> When I installed Kubuntu it changed my startup and login screens... is there any way to revert it back to ubuntu defaults?
[20:38] <ejer> usor: http://digg.com/linux_unix/TruecryptGUI_Release_0_2_Out but it seems dead...
[20:38] <usor> Pedro: Download VLC... you can use Add/Remove
[20:38] <Zombie> Leviel: Are you running Samba? Have you joined the Domain?
[20:38] <Wiseblood> I have a problem regarding drivers and joypads could someone please pm to help me please!
[20:38] <Luca> KenSentMe, I mean can GRUB, still load windows?
[20:38] <p512o> mrj: well, an upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10
[20:38] <IcemanV9> Whitor: somewhat yes/no .. it is called thinkfinger
[20:38] <murkyMurk> Luca: generally people let the installer write grub to the MBR and it will give you an option to boot vista at reboot
[20:38] <usor> pedro: VLC plays everything without you having to worry about codecs
[20:38] <askand> savvas: should I do a chmod 777 you think there is a better solution?
[20:38] <mrj> p512o, wouldn't you just apt-get update etc?
[20:38] <Leviel> Zombie: i don't know how?
[20:38] <dryrot> Luca: grub will notice your windows install, and provide a menu entry to boot into windows
[20:38] <murkyMurk> Luca: yep, works just fine that way
[20:38] <comicinker> Vled: of course. But I wouldn't visit a IRC before having a look at the sources I have
[20:38] <Wiseblood> I have a problem regarding drivers and joypads could someone please pm to help me please!
[20:38] <KenSentMe> Luca, yes it can
[20:38] <usor> ejer: Cool thanks
[20:38] <Vlet> Luca: yep - works fine if you install linux after installing windows. If you install windows after installing linux, windows overwrites GRUB
[20:38] <Wiseblood> I have a problem regarding drivers and joypads could someone please pm to help me please!
[20:38] <Wiseblood> please someone help
[20:38] <Zombie> Leviel: You have to be running Samba first.
[20:38] <KenSentMe> Wiseblood, just ask your question here
[20:39] <Wiseblood> I am not a slackass I have seriously looked
[20:39] <savvas> askand: you should do a: sudo dosfsck /dev/sdb1
[20:39] <Wiseblood> well i dont want to ass to the torrent of text
[20:39] <Vlet> Wiseblood: If you get no answer, that is likely because no one KNOWS the answer
[20:39] <gutsy> ciao ragazzi
[20:39] <Wiseblood> but ok
[20:39] <billzecat> OK... third time's the charm, right?  :)
[20:39] <p512o> mrj, as the repos are so slow, I thought downloading the iso via bittorrent and doing the upgrade "offline" would be faster.. but even this the update-manager (launched from the cd) is downloading loads of packages from the internet
[20:39] <Wiseblood> I havent asked the question
[20:39] <gutsy> i have this problem
[20:39] <seanh> How can I find out what size, in minutes, a blank CD is so that I can use Serpentine? The size is not written on the CD. Thanks
[20:39] <mrj> I don't get this, I marked KDE4base for complete removal, yet it has to connect to the repo and REDOWNLOAD kde4base to remove it?
[20:39] <gutsy> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[20:39] <gutsy> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[20:39] <gutsy> why this?
[20:39] <Wiseblood> I only asked some one to pm me for help with driver
[20:39] <savvas> askand: maybe sudo chown -R would be better to change the owner :)
[20:39] <p512o> this way*
[20:39] <gutsy> but 3d works
[20:39] <Wiseblood> s
[20:40] <Wiseblood> plus
[20:40] <Wiseblood> it is veryembarassing
[20:40] <fraco> wheres the gnome graphical interface to manage disk mounts (used to be called "Disks")
[20:40] <askand> savvas: "There are differences between boot sector and its backup."
[20:40] <mrj> p512o, yeah the repos are ridiculously slow. i've got a broken package and had to connect to it to update my gutsy
[20:40] <Vlet> Wiseblood: most people here do not want to do that
[20:40] <Luca> So in vista I can create a new partition from free disk space, then that partition can be used by ubuntu? Or can ubuntu only use unassigned space?
[20:40] <ejer> message me Wiseblood cause i am in a good mood
[20:40] <Wiseblood> ok fine
[20:40] <codeblue002> lgc_, the drive dosnt pick up atall in one of the usb's but lights up on the other, which is strange because anyother time that my drive has light up it works
[20:40] <savvas> askand: sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo dosfsck -t /dev/sdb1
[20:40] <howlingmadhowie> are we now officially the gutsy channel here`
[20:41] <Wiseblood> I have been looking and looking and I am unable to find a answer that was dumbed down enough for me
[20:41] <Wiseblood> So
[20:41] <stray77> luca, leave you free space unpartitioned
[20:41] <mrj> howlingmadhowie, ubuntu+1 is gone so I assume so
[20:41] <gutsy> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[20:41] <gutsy> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[20:41] <stray77> *your
[20:41] <Vlet> Luca: You don't need to create the partition in vista... just leave some blank space on the drive, and then when installing ubuntu, use that free space
[20:41] <gutsy> help me please
[20:41] <howlingmadhowie> mrj: :) cool
[20:41] <Wiseblood> I have a joypad and I finally configed it
[20:41] <thyagobr> Luca ubuntu handles the unpartitioned space in installation time
[20:41] <murkyMurk> Luca: let the ubuntu installer do that. just be sure to know which partition is the blank one
[20:41] <KenSentMe> Luca, ubuntu can overwrite a windows partition or use the unassigned space both
[20:41] <Wiseblood> (for some reason in /dev it wont save ..??
[20:41] <Instabin|Work> howlingmadhowie:gutsy is a supported version now
[20:41] <gutsy> beryl doesn't works on gutsy or it's already installed?
[20:41] <p512o> mrj, yes indeed. so I thought using the cd would spare me from downloading via repos.. maybe a wrong assumption or my apt system still wants to get the updates I aborted before
[20:41] <ejer> gutsy: doesn't sound like you have driver installed properly
[20:41] <DUUUUUDE> now how do i run truecrypt in gui?
[20:41] <Mmph> I have made my linux partitions with windows,,,, I formatted them with NTFS, will this give me a problem with the install? some linux installers will not write over a NTFS partition is why I am askong
[20:41] <stray77> gutsy, sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:41] <Instabin|Work> gutsy: compiz is installed on gutsy
[20:42] <lgc_> codeblue002, sometimes rebooting cures the problems, though purists go against it...
[20:42] <Instabin|Work> gutsy: its beter than beryl
[20:42] <ejer> DUUUUUDE: it is not really a good GUI, check kgpg instead maybe
[20:42] <gutsy> compiz = beryl now?
[20:42] <Instabin|Work> gutsy: its compiz-fusion
[20:42] <Wiseblood> but I saved it to my home fold (/usr)
[20:42] <DUUUUUDE> arg!
[20:42] <murkyMurk> gutsy: compiz-fusion even...bryl died
[20:42] <DUUUUUDE> hehe thnx
[20:42] <Vlet> Wiseblood: so every time you restart, you have to reinstall the thing?
[20:42] <bobes> is there a kde-extragear-addons package for ubuntu?
[20:42] <mrj> p512o, I'm not sure the logic behind it. I'm trying to simply REMOVE the broken package (kd4elib) and apparently to do that it wants to redownload the entire package.. so, who knows how logical synaptic is
[20:42] <Wiseblood> and when I loaded up snes9x
[20:42] <billzecat> OK, this is getting ridiculous... every time I run update-manager and try to upgrade to Gutsy, the requirements go up.  Before it needed 804MB free, now it says it needs 856MB...
[20:42] <Gosha> Yay, Gutsy totally killed my xorg.conf or something ... Since it barely even starts up.
[20:42] <Luca> Dont get me wrong I want vista and ubuntu, I have to keep vista. All space of all drives is currently assigned to a windows ntfs partition how do I unassign it?
[20:42] <howlingmadhowie> a question: since i updated to gutsy, my ctrl-alt-F1-6 terminals are blank unless i set a lower mode than i did under feisty. what should i search for on ubuntuforums do you think? i can't seem to find anything about it atm
[20:42] <askand> savvas: Hrm what is the command for copying ALL of the files and folders in my homecatalog (including hidden ones) to the external drive?
[20:42] <ejer> mrj: it needs to know what is in package to uninstall it
[20:42] <Instabin|Work> gutsy: no beryl +compiz = compiz-fusion
[20:42] <thyagobr> Mph cant you erase that NTFS partition and run ubuntu installation?
[20:42] <Wiseblood> it finally recognized my cal sett
[20:43] <ejer> askand: cp -Rv /home /backupdisk
[20:43] <notv> is this the gutsy channel?
[20:43] <_TeRmInEt_> Hi, I've upgraded with gusty, but the fonts are changed?
[20:43] <murkyMurk> mrj: that might be a symbolic or meta package...might only want to download bits of it to ensure complete removal
[20:43] <mrj> ejer, ah, I figured that was it.
[20:43] <Wiseblood> which made me smile because on /dev it wouldnt write
[20:43] <IcemanV9> notv: yes
[20:43] <mrj> gotcha
[20:43] <Gosha> Fonts are changed? ... :o interesting ...
[20:43] <jburd> notv: Yes, we're all gibbons.
[20:43] <askand> ejer:  no sudo? what does the v do?
[20:43] <Wiseblood> the js0 file was a constant 0kb file
[20:43] <kritzstapf> how to set the language of kdeapps without installing kcontrol?
[20:43] <Instabin|Work> this channel is rediclous
[20:43] <gutsy> ok ok i understand
[20:43] <notv> does anyone know if ati X series cards work now?
[20:43] <Instabin|Work> it needs to be split
[20:43] <MikMik> A question: Can I install using TEXT-MODE from the REGULAR 7.10 CD (without the live-cd part)?
[20:43] <notv> in feisty, there was a bug and the ati x series cards had some issues
[20:43] <mrj> It was split for awhile
[20:43] <ejer> askand: if you can read your home and write to backup no need for sudo. -v means verbose, can be left off
[20:43] <_TeRmInEt_> Gosha, it's look different...
[20:43] <Instabin|Work> gutsy: do you get what happen with the beryl + compiz
[20:43] <Gosha> Instabin|Work: Sad, but true.
[20:43] <notv> im wondering if i need the alternate install or not...
[20:44] <Wiseblood> is anyone lol listening to me?
[20:44] <gutsy> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"
[20:44] <KenSentMe> MikMik, if you use the alternate cd
[20:44] <Wiseblood> by any chance?
[20:44] <Gosha> _TeRmInEt_: Hmm? ... Oh wait .. So I can't even use my old one? D:
[20:44] <buh>  /quit
[20:44] <buh> exit
[20:44] <Drew777> Hello! Where can I find MD5 hashes for the new Gutsy iso?
[20:44] <mrj> notv, I always use the alternate install because I don't need to "test" ubuntus livecd
[20:44] <stray77> MD5sums -> http://pastebin.com/m28d5be1d
[20:44] <Vlet> Wiseblood: It's hard to when you type in fragments
[20:44] <Wiseblood> ok
[20:44] <mrj> Installing with the alternate is much better imo
[20:44] <Wiseblood> sorru
[20:44] <p512o> mrj, that sounds a bit weird.. but I must say I'm not yet very familiar with the debian packaging.. been using rpm based distros most of the time.. but a redownload seems senseless, as it's already know what the package consists of
[20:44] <MikMik> KenSentMe: I know, but can i use the REGULAR cd for that purpose?
[20:44] <Instabin|Work> gosha: 1600 people trying to talk
[20:44] <askand>  ejer:  Ok I have now umounted it and tried dosfsck again..it still says"There are differences between boot sector and its backup."
[20:44] <avis> is the 8500GT video card supported under gutsy live cd ?
[20:44] <_TeRmInEt_> Gosha, i would like revert to festy's fonts
[20:44] <ejer> Wiseblood: i have yet to hear a support question
[20:44] <KenSentMe> Wiseblood, if you tell us your problem in 1 line and not 10, maybe someone can help you
[20:44] <notv> the alternate comes with no GUI?
[20:44] <Vlet> It sounds like a complex situation. Have you tried posting to ubuntuforums.org
[20:44] <Gringo_> avis: no
[20:44] <gutsy> i use ati original driver
[20:44] <Gosha> _TeRmInEt_: Oh, you meant the fonts ...
[20:44] <IcemanV9> notv: correct
[20:44] <gutsy> direct rendering doesn't works
[20:44] <[chr0n0s]> gutsy: ati 8.40 ?
[20:45] <ejer> askand: this is not gonna copy a partition, especially not a boot partition
[20:45] <avis> Gringo_, so to use that card use the alternate cd then use envy ?
[20:45] <Gosha> I thought you were talking about xorg.conf, hehe
[20:45] <notv> but i was GUI
[20:45] <KenSentMe> MikMik, the regular alternate, yes. The live-cd can't run in text mode
[20:45] <usor> How do I make a password protected zip archive?
[20:45] <notv> err
[20:45] <gutsy> no on toshiba notebook RV350
[20:45] <alonzo> #UBUNTU-FR
[20:45] <notv> i want GUI
[20:45] <sorbix> maybe there should be support channels for different types of problems
[20:45] <[chr0n0s]> i am having problems with that
[20:45] <gutsy> ati graphic card
[20:45] <savvas> askand: you must mean: cp -R ~/* /your/destination/folder/
[20:45] <sorbix> like #ubuntu-ati
[20:45] <MikMik> ok, thanks!
[20:45] <IcemanV9> notv: desktop cd is the one you want then
[20:45] <KenSentMe> MikMik, no problem
[20:45] <notv> but its a laptop, and the desktop did not work with it on feisty
[20:45] <askand>  savvas: no im trying to run the "sudo dosfsck /dev/sdb1"
[20:45] <Clearze1> Can you run gusty on a 2.6.20-15 kernel?
[20:45] <murkyMurk> avis: yes and no. Yes it will show a desktop, no it won't be optimised until it's fullt installed and you enable the restricted drivers option for nvidia cards
[20:45] <notv> ill just mess with the alternate disk
[20:45] <Vlet> notv: you want a gui installer, but you can't boot from the standard install cd?
[20:45] <ejer> askand: why r u doing that
[20:46] <Michael001> I found a blank cd and I wasted it
[20:46] <fiete> for some reason the DefaultDepth-switch in xorg.conf doesn't work any more. Any ideas how I can 16 bit color depth?
[20:46] <IcemanV9> notv: it will work on laptop and desktop, however if you have a problem, then alternate cd is the BEST to use
[20:46] <askand> ejer: I was told to do so..I guess its somekind of ceck?
[20:46] <sebastes> fiete: What driver are you using?
[20:46] <askand> check*
[20:46] <Gosha> It's a good thing I knew of, and had installed irssi .. Or I would've been totally lost now, heh.
[20:46] <Sp0tUb> Hi! Can someone help me? I have a 500Gb USB disk (NTFS) but Ubuntu cant mount it, why??
[20:46] <fiete> sebastes: ati
[20:46] <ejer> askand: sounds dangerous to me
[20:46] <avis> murkyMurk, ahh ok so i it will work in gutsy after enabling restricted drivers ?  i'm guessing that can't be done from the live cd  ?
[20:46] <mrj> Have any of you successfully converted the ubuntu to a DVD iso and burned it and had the install go fine?
[20:46] <notv> vlet im just wondering if my ati card  will work out of the box on gutsy, when it did not in feisty
[20:46] <sebastes> fiete: The restricted river only works in 24-bit mode
[20:46] <newguy> hey what is the "Tracker Search Tool" and "indexing preferences" for?
[20:46] <The_Joe_> I'm on a RealTek HD, I only get sound through my headphones, I'm on an Acer Aspire 3050 and I have no idea what's going on
[20:46] <askand> ejer: oh ok..then I dont
[20:46] <Michael001> Unetbootin says it cant find ubuntu 7.10 on the us mirror
[20:47] <thyagobr> Sp0tUb how are you trying to mount it
[20:47] <Clearze1> fiete: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the color depth setting under the screen section
[20:47] <Bill-Goldberg> hi , the upgrade stucked in the middile of upgrade/install of update-manager. now everything is messed up is there an option to continue/restart upgrade ?
[20:47] <Mmph> Sp0tUb, tell your bios to  boot from USB
[20:47] <fiete> sebastes: this is the open source one
[20:47] <praecox> hello everyone
[20:47] <gutsy> i have ati driver installed from restricted driver
[20:47] <kena123> I'm installing Gutsy now, and it's stuck at "Scanning the mirror... (82%)". I'm assuming the mirror is incredibly slow right now and I should just wait?
[20:47] <Sp0tUb> thyagobr Just connect it
[20:47] <murkyMurk> avis: yep, all nvidia cards are supported through the nvidia driver
[20:47] <Instabin|Work> gutsy: I have the nvidia restricted driver...
[20:47] <Kal1> hello
[20:47] <avis> thank you murkyMurk
[20:47] <Sp0tUb> Mmph But its not the system disk, only storage
[20:47] <newguy> hey what is the "Tracker Search Tool" and "indexing preferences" for?
[20:47] <fiete> Clearze1: I already changed this value without effect
[20:47] <thyagobr> Sp0tUb you can try to mount it with command line through the terminal
[20:47] <zizzi> help
[20:48] <Mmph> oh sorry about that
[20:48] <praecox> I downloaded alternate CD for 7.10 booted it on my HP 6015b and after choosing any options from welcome screen, screen turns black and nothing happens.
[20:48] <praecox> any ideas?
[20:48] <Vlet> !ask zizzi
[20:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask zizzi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:48] <Boumboum5> zizzi: tell us what you need? :)
[20:48] <Clearze1> fiete: Then I wouldn't know sorry.
[20:48] <The_Joe_> Anyone?
[20:48] <mrj> praecox, run the CD check on it
[20:48] <Kal1> how do i make a program open into a specific desktop in the start up
[20:48] <askand> ejer: cp -Rv /home /backupdisk, does that really copy all hidden files to?
[20:48] <mrj> praecox, it's the last option I believe
[20:48] <stray77> gutsy, read this page -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/
[20:48] <newguy> !tracker
[20:48] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[20:48] <praecox> mrj, tried as well
[20:48] <Wiseblood> I finally got the snes9x to recognize my joystick settings and device. But I started SNES9x up and it said need new drivers now here is the shameful part.....  I dont know precisely how to install the drivers (I DID find the drivers however) I get confused because I am a complete idoit (beginner) and command line scares me.... :(  laymans terms what precisely do i type line by line plz... :(
[20:48] <Sp0tUb> thyagobr Connect the disc and then type the command? And how do i find out the command? Im prette new to linux :-)
[20:48] <Gosha> ... What is this new screen-config app called?
[20:48] <Boumboum5> The_Joe: I don't know. :( sounds like it might be a driver issue...but I'm still new to Ubuntu.
[20:48] <newguy> !index prefrences
[20:48] <praecox> mrj, but it turns black after choosing this option as well.
[20:48] <act1v8> praecox: Are you on A Laptop?
[20:48] <mrj> praecox, reburn it at a much slower speed
[20:48] <newguy> !index
[20:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about index - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:48] <praecox> act1v8, yes
[20:48] <DUUUUUDE> kgpg is much better with gui, thnx :)
[20:49] <Wiseblood> I did search but it wsa so confusing
[20:49] <praecox> mrj, ok, can try.
[20:49] <sebastes> hrm, tracker must be getting hammered I'm getting timed out.
[20:49] <arghh2d2> everybody freeakin out man!     gutsy mania mannnn!
[20:49] <kena123> sebastes: it comes up and goes down. retry every few minutes :-)
[20:49] <nex1> thanks to the guy who told me to install xgl server, works smoothly
[20:49] <sorbix> i got gutsy a few days ago, but how come i dont have any update notificatiosn today?
[20:49] <Wiseblood> vlet you there?
[20:49] <sorbix> shouldnt i have them?
[20:49] <_TeRmInEt_> Can I revert gusty's fonts ?
[20:49] <act1v8> praecox: well... you can try adding this to the Section "Device" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file: Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,AUTO"
[20:49] <Vlet> Wiseblood: There isn't really any way for us to give you line by line instructions here. That's like asking a mechanic to describe how to fix your car over the phone.... One has to look at the object in question in order to diagnoze the problem
[20:50] <darren> is there any reason totem-xine wont playback media but totem-gstreamer will?
[20:50] <Sp0tUb> thyagobr Connect the disc and then type the command? And how do i find out the command? Im prette new to linux :-)
[20:50] <Evanlec> sorbix, i dont have any either, my guess is cuz the servers are jammed
[20:50] <arghh2d2> when does gutsy 7.10.1 come out?
[20:50] <Clearze1> Can you run gusty on a earlier kernel than the kernel that is installed by default?
[20:50] <nex1> next question - How do i controll the cube with my laptop? IE: doesnt have a mousebutton 3
[20:50] <sorbix> Evanlec, ok, at least im not alone :)\
[20:50] <Wiseblood> well
[20:50] <Instabin|Work> arghh2d2: today it came out
[20:50] <murkyMurk> Wiseblood: wouldn't the best place to ask be the snes9x forum?
[20:50] <act1v8> praecox: But I don't suggest doing that unless you know how to edit that file
[20:50] <Vlet> If you ask specific questions, we can try to answer them
[20:50] <darren> is there any reason totem-xine wont playback media but totem-gstreamer will?
[20:50] <trez> Someone know where I can get more information on "NET: Registered  protocol family 17"? Seems to be a source of Kernel Oops for me :)
[20:50] <marx2k_> man...how do I use a mirror for dist upgrades?
[20:50] <Wiseblood> they use technical temrs when trying to explain and diagnose the prob
[20:50] <arghh2d2> 7.10.1 is out already??
[20:50]  * N3bunel away
[20:50] <lgc_> How do I restart ALSA from the command line? Thanks.
[20:50] <Evanlec> nex1, default is ctrl+alt+left-drag
[20:50] <Instabin|Work> arghh2d2: no 7.10
[20:50] <lgc_> !alsa
[20:50] <Gosha> !swedish
[20:50] <away> what?
[20:50] <Wiseblood> did
[20:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:50] <act1v8> praecox: are you registered with Freenode, so I can give you better instructions?
[20:50] <Wiseblood> dead
[20:50] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[20:51] <Clearze1> nex1: in the ccsm there is a plugin called viewport switcher. You can change it to anything you like.
[20:51] <arghh2d2> ok, i'll wait for the world to find all the bugs and use the resulting patches
[20:51] <Instabin|Work> arghh2d2: next is 8.04
[20:51] <kena123> I'm installing Gutsy now, and it's stuck at "Scanning the mirror... (82%)". I'm assuming the mirror is incredibly slow right now and I should just wait?
[20:51] <pedro> i use linux that is alocated in my vmware. how can i have acess to my music that is in the Windows?
[20:51] <Vlet> Wiseblood: it's a technical thing you're trying to do though
[20:51] <askand> What command do I use to copy all files and folders in my homefolder (including hidden & underlying) to my backupdrive?
[20:51] <dogwater> curses @ kickstart
[20:51] <nex1> thanks, i will try :-)
[20:51] <stray77> im glad i got all my audio and video codecs installed WITHOUT using automatix2.
[20:51] <Wiseblood> ya
[20:51] <darren> can someone help me get totem-xine to playback video files?
[20:51] <Evanlec> arghh2d2, the version system doesnt work like that, 7.10 will be 7.10 until 8.3 comes out, 7.10 means 2007 10th month, october
[20:52] <[chr0n0s]> anyone having luck with ATi prop drivers on gutsy ??
[20:52] <Wiseblood> ok
[20:52] <[chr0n0s]> i cannot fix it
[20:52] <Mmph> pedro, install the VMware tools, then just drag your music over the VMware window and drop it
[20:52] <billzecat> askand: cp -Rv ~ /media/whatever_mount_point_your_backup_drive_uses
[20:52] <r0b-> how long should it take to scan the mirrors upon installing UBuntu 7.10
[20:52] <stray77> darren, just try to play a file, if youre missing the codec, it will prompt you to download them
[20:52] <r0b-> nvm
[20:52] <r0b-> :)
[20:52] <darren> chr0n0s you still have to blacklist to get fglrx to work
[20:52] <murkyMurk> lgc_: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart i think
[20:52] <lordlucan> I'm having a problem with the internet with 7.10 its very slugggish!
[20:52] <billytwowilly>  is it possible to change the port that is audio out on the sound card?
[20:52] <genii> Clearze1: What kernel were you thinking of compiling it with?
[20:52] <Clearze1> askand: rsync -urP /home/folder/ /destination/directory or /home/folder user@192.xxx.x.x:/destination/directory
[20:52] <Wiseblood> what would i enter to install a driver (I know that is quite broad but what is the best idea for the command)
[20:52] <kena123> r0b-: haha, mine just finished doing that too
[20:52] <[chr0n0s]> darren, what u mean by that ?
[20:52] <ramon> tried installing gutsy today from desktop-1386 iso, won't boot. wrote 3 different cds using 3 different programs, checked md5. written cd will not even mount, but mount -loop works on iso?
[20:52] <darren> stray77, it doesn't seem to attempt to do anything, it just sits there. doesn't ask for a codec either :(
[20:52] <arghh2d2> Evanlec: ahh, i see... well i'm sure there will be alot of updates and forum help being written in the next month.
[20:53] <murkyMurk> lordlucan: yes it is, mashed and loaded
[20:53] <hyper_b0le> Anyone got the 3D cube working?
[20:53] <lordlucan> mashed and loaded?
[20:53] <howlingmadhowie> problem probably solved :)
[20:53] <Clearze1> genii: <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[20:53] <Evanlec> arghh2d2, updates are released almost constantly throughout a versions lifespan...
[20:53] <seanh> I just connected an external CD/DVD writer to my laptop via USB. It is detected correctly by Linux, I put a blank disc in and it reads it okay. But the CD burning apps don't show this external as an option to burn with, and in Hardware Information it's capabilities are listed as storage, block, storage.cdrom. Anything I can do?
[20:53] <stray77> darren, all i did was try to play an xvid file and followed the prompts
[20:53] <Instabin|Work> MAN I SEE A BUNCH OF STUPIED QUESTIONS.... LIKE HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE... WHEN DOES THIS HAPPEN...
[20:53] <Charlotte> hey guys do u know some a;ternative to mathtype for linux (ubuntu)
[20:53] <marx2k_> If I downloaded the Gutsy CD, can I use the ISo to do a dist upgrade on my box?
[20:53] <billzecat> Instabin: Welcome to release day.
[20:53] <darren> stray77, it doesn't seem to prompt me anymore. it just doesn't attempt anything :/
[20:54] <fubz> guys, i accidently deleted /usr/share/local/* when i thought i was deleting stuff from /usr/local/share/
[20:54] <david_> n
[20:54] <Instabin|Work> BILLZECAT: I had 7.10 installed since tribe 3 .... I want my ubuntu+1 channel back...
[20:54] <lordlucan> Well I know it sounds stupid but the internet isn't working well with 7.10 but I'm having no problems in XP
[20:54] <fubz> can someome tell me what packages own those files so i can reinstall them pls?
[20:54] <r0b-> kena123 u installing Gutsy to?
[20:54] <fiete> sebastes: ok, apperently there is a glitch in the compiz wrapper. the max texture size check seems faulty
[20:54] <IcemanV9> marx2k_: yes, you can do that way
[20:54] <genii> Clearze1: I'm not sure how much/many of the apps depend on >2.6.20   2.6.22 seems default now
[20:54] <fiete> sebastes: works for me now :-)
[20:54] <Wiseblood> ANYOINE HAVE PR0N WAREZ SOURCE PLOX!!!
[20:54] <hyper_b0le> Anyone tried to get the 3D cube working in compiz?
[20:55] <kena123> r0b-: yeah. it took longer to scan mirrors than it did to do the rest of the install before it >.> it's done with that and now just finishing up
[20:55] <darren> is there a vlc media player plugin for firefox?
[20:55] <Vlet> Wiseblood: That'll get ya booted
[20:55] <marx2k_> IcemanV9: Do you knopw how?
[20:55] <Charlotte> how to enable multimedia in gutsy???
[20:55] <skarface> darren: mozilla-plugin-vlc
[20:55] <Evanlec> !caps | Wiseblood Instabin
[20:55] <ubotu> Wiseblood Instabin: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:55] <r0b-> alright now to REBOOT1
[20:55] <r0b-> bbl
[20:55] <stray77> hyper_b0le , read this page -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/
[20:55] <darren> skarface thankyou :)
[20:55] <Vlet> darren: mozilla-plugin-vlc
[20:55] <Clearze1> genii: My lightscribe doesn't work properly with that kernel and my sound won' t either. So I guess I'll stay with feisty.
[20:56] <hyper_b0le> Thanks stray77 nice to get an answer sometimes, heh
[20:56] <IcemanV9> marx2k_: just throw in CD and Ubuntu will ask you if you want to upgrade or not. :)
[20:56] <fubz> someone pls tell me whats in /usr/share/locale and what package owns those files
[20:56] <askand> darren: yes
[20:56] <CarlFK> is there a way to throttle eth0?  like to 2mb/s ?
[20:56] <l_r> is the 64bit version faster than the 32bit?
[20:56] <Instabin|Work> Evanlec: I was trying to SHOUT my one sentence....
[20:56] <marx2k_> Iceman: awesome
[20:56] <Instabin|Work> Evanlec: I did it on purpose...
[20:56] <Evanlec> Instabin, right but ur just adding to the chaos here
[20:57] <Luca> I have an amd 64 older 3000+ you recomend x64 version or x86?
[20:57] <Evanlec> l_r, in general there's an overall roughly 5% speed gain, otherwise its very application dependant
[20:57] <Clearze1> CarlFK: yes, iptables could throttle certain ports/traffic. You may be able to set a threshold with the rate command in ifconfig.
[20:57] <Wooderson> how do i remote connect to my other computer?
[20:57] <genii> Clearze1: Ah, OK. If the source is available for the linux lightscribe app you could just try compiling that only. The soundcard could be a bit more problemmatic
[20:57] <Evanlec> Luca, there's really no reason not to run x64 in my opinion....
[20:57] <Instabin|Work> Evanlec: by insuating that ppl didnt need to ask how long or when?
[20:57] <Vlet> Wooderson: Is your other computer running ubuntu
[20:57] <CarlFK> Luca: x64 will be 'better' but more hassle because less pacages
[20:57] <Wooderson> yes it is
[20:57] <stray77> Luca, if you want 32bit application support, stick with i386, if you want all the speed and power, use amd64
[20:58] <murkyMurk> l_r in theory yes but you won't notice..stick with 32bit for compatibility reasosn
[20:58] <Wooderson> i turned on all the options too
[20:58] <[chr0n0s]> !ati
[20:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:58] <hyper_b0le> stray77: thanks for the link solved my problem much appreciated.
[20:58] <fubz> someone?
[20:58] <Clearze1> genii: Yeah, I think I may have to spend a few days working things out for myself before I attempt to upgrade. Oh well.
[20:58] <Vlet> Wooderson: I prefer this way: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[20:58] <Evanlec> yes but x64 can still run 32bit apps no problem, so i dont see why everyone says stay with 32bit
[20:58] <Wooderson> ok1 sec dont go no where
[20:58] <Wooderson> :P
[20:58] <stiev3> what's the difference between sperate X screen and twinview?
[20:58] <ouroborous> where can i ask for help for a bizarre gnome issue?  (only occurred after installing/uninstalling compiz)
[20:58] <stray77> hyper_b0le, no prob. Send everyone there that asks about the cube etc...
[20:58] <Evanlec> just because the OS is 64-bit doesnt mean it cant run 32bit apps...
[20:58] <pramz> Evanlec, quite a lot of fudging to get certain 32bit apps working, primarily games on wine and flash
[20:58] <pramz> butthats about it
[20:58] <blue42> evanlec: what is the effort level for say, installing 32-bit wine on amd64?
[20:59] <Dr_willis> stiev3,  twinview is one 'huge' screen spanning several monitors.
[20:59] <Instabin|Work> Evanlec: does 64bit have adobe flash player now?
[20:59] <Dr_willis> stiev3,  other way has a x session on each monitor.
[20:59] <Evanlec> blue42, i did sudo apt-get install wine and...thats about it
[20:59] <Clearze1> stiev3: twinview is an extended desktop and seperate x would be a double x session
[20:59] <pramz> no native adobe flash 64bit yet
[20:59] <Evanlec> Instabin, yep
[20:59] <mrj> 1d 9hrs 11m to download this package i need before I can update my gibbon..lol
[20:59] <pramz> you can run it in 32bit firefox under 64bit linux
[20:59] <Dr_willis> Im using Twinview right now.
[20:59] <murkyMurk> fubz: system loaclisation files owned by root...some i18 package probably
[20:59] <stiev3> Dr_willis, what would be the primary purpose of 2 x sessions?
[20:59] <Evanlec> pramz, actually there's a painless flash install for 64-bit firefox now
[20:59] <Instabin|Work> Evanlec: I must have missed that ....
[21:00] <blue42> evanlec: oh, ok.  I was just wondering cuz the ubuntu help pages still mention a need for a chroot to isntall 32bit apps
[21:00] <Masticore-> How do I config Compiz Fusion?
[21:00] <fubz> murkyMurk, i need to know what package
[21:00] <pramz> Evanlec, using Adobe flash or gnash ?
[21:00] <mrj> apt-get install compiz-manager
[21:00] <Eltornado> hi please some can help me to change the desktop default icon alignement to right
[21:00] <mrj> i think
[21:00] <askand> Masticore-: with
[21:00] <Dr_willis> stiev3,  in theory one could have several users with seperate keyboards/mice  all on a single box.
[21:00] <Clearze1> stiev3: if you are controlling more than 1 linux system at once.
[21:00] <Evanlec> pramz, flash...
[21:00] <pramz> Evanlec, url ?
[21:00] <warbler> doesn't matter what settings I use - the screensaver kicks in after ten minutes
[21:00] <Dr_willis> stiev3,  or Run somthing like MythTV or other app on a 2nd display
[21:00] <hyper_b0le> stray77 will do :) , possibly worth it getting a mention in the topic I imagine a few people might have the same question.
[21:00] <Evanlec> pramz, check ubuntu forums, x64 section
[21:00] <darren> can someone explain to me why i get choppy video playback compared with windows?
[21:01] <zcode_> I'm using 7.10 RC1, can I update to 7.10 release?
[21:01] <bch_> wonder how long the sources will be slow
[21:01] <Bonaldo2000> Question: if I supplied the irqpoll option when I install ubuntu (I thought I had a problem that it might would be able to solve but didnt) will the effects of the irqpoll option remain in the system after installation even though I no longer has it in my boot parameter list?
[21:01] <billzecat> OK... I'm looking for advice.  My /boot partition is 89M, but the installer needs 120M.  Short of wiping everything out and repartitioning, do I have any options?
[21:01] <ouroborous> anyone know why "user switcher" panel would keep dying repeatedly after installing/removing xgl?
[21:01] <askand> zcode_:  If you use updatemanager you have final
[21:01] <nex1> This is probably the best linux desktop distro to date
[21:01] <Dekkard> cool.. I'm seeding at 80 kb up
[21:01] <jburd> Can one upgrade from the distribution DVD/CD?
[21:01] <zcode_> askand: I see..  Thanks
[21:02] <askand> jburd:  yes I think it will tell you if you insert it
[21:02] <Luca> If i get the x64 it will still be able to boot my 32bit vista?
[21:02] <zcode_> askand: It's downloading package 1 of 114
[21:02] <Flats> how do I rescan for my wireless network card
[21:02] <zcode_> slowly
[21:02] <jburd> askand: That's nice.  :-)
[21:02] <Clearze1> Flats: iwconfig
[21:02] <OM1136> i did apt-cdrom add, it did, what do I do to complete the upgrde to 7.10?
[21:02] <Wooderson> Vlet: which computer and im supposed to do this on? my server or this one?
[21:02] <askand> zcode_:  good luck and enjoy final :)
[21:03] <stiev3> ah I get it now, thanks Dr_willis etc...
[21:03] <stray77> luca, one has nothing to do with the other
[21:03] <hwilde> is nvidia-glx going to support the 8600GT line ?
[21:03] <Flats> hmmm and if it doesn't find it?
[21:03] <Vlet> Wooderson: the server. To connect to it, you just use the 'Terminal Server Client' which you should already have installed
[21:03] <lgc_> murkyMurk, thanks.
[21:03] <Wooderson> ah ok
[21:03] <Evanlec> blue42, that is not my understanding at this time
[21:04] <Cryoniq> Finaly I have restriced driver for ATI enabled.. but.. next to it, it says Not in use.. so.. how do I get fglrx etc and so on to be used by my ati9800pro?
[21:04] <fubz> anyone running gutsy may i please ask you a question
[21:04] <OM1136> i did apt-cdrom add, it did, what do I do to complete the upgrade to 7.10?
[21:04] <usor> How do I make a folder I don't have permission to write to, writeable so that I can say drag a folder to it?[
[21:04] <hwilde> !gutsy | fubz
[21:04] <ubotu> fubz: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[21:04] <Cryoniq> under Gusty that is
[21:04] <Evanlec> !ask | fubz
[21:04] <ubotu> fubz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:04] <fubz> ok
[21:04] <hwilde> usor, sudo chmod +r folder
[21:04] <greencookie> IcemanV9: hey:)
[21:04] <_gpg_> is it possible to change ubuntu icon and use the original gnome one in the panel please ?
[21:04] <fubz> do you have anything in /usr/share/locale?
[21:04] <usor> hwilde: Thanks
[21:04] <Evanlec> usor, sudo chmod a+rw /folder
[21:05] <greencookie> is there a better broswer than firefox?
[21:05] <jamili> so...
[21:05] <Vlet> fubz: I have lots of stuff - a folder for each locale
[21:05] <jamili> has grub been updated since 6.10?
[21:05] <calc> greencookie: lynx
[21:05] <zcode_> Does anyone a torrent for 7.10 server?
[21:05] <zcode_> x86
[21:05] <Vlet> greencookie: is there a better color than green?
[21:05] <greencookie> calc:  lol
[21:05] <Clearze1> greencookie: I dunno if it's "better" but you could try opera
[21:05] <Bonaldo2000> Question: if I supplied the irqpoll option when I install ubuntu (I thought I had a problem that it might would be able to solve but didnt) will the effects of the irqpoll option remain in the system after installation even though I no longer has it in my boot parameter list?
[21:05] <greencookie> Vlet: offcourse not:)
[21:05] <calc> greencookie: :)
[21:05] <buchiach> hi, I am installing Ubuntu 7.10 for the first time, and I want to dual boot with xp...will installing from the disc have it setup automatically or will i need to do anythign extra?
[21:05] <greencookie> Clearze1: hmm ok
[21:05] <martoya>  zcode_: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-server-i386.iso.torrent
[21:06] <greencookie> calc: the reason im asking is cuz firefox hangs too often in my Fiesty
[21:06] <zcode_> Thanks martoya
[21:06] <Mmph> Iguess it is better than red cookie :p
[21:06] <Instabin|Work> calc: nice reply but blue is beter :P
[21:06] <darren> whenever i try and stream media with the vlc plugin firefox closes?
[21:06] <calc> greencookie: gutsy is out now, it might be better on it
[21:06] <nicholas> zcode_: http://ubuntu.hosting.spherelinx.com/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[21:06] <Flats> anyone have the intel pro/wireless 3945ABG adapter?
[21:06] <greencookie> calc: FYI I did try lynx but i failed:)
[21:06] <Cryoniq> What does it mean when aticonfig --intitial result in a coredump?
[21:06] <calc> Flats: yes
[21:06] <Vlet> buchiach: Well, it will INSTALL it, but there's always personalization, and depending on your computer, some work maye be required to get things working right
[21:06] <Flats> Does it work?
[21:06] <Clearze1> greencookie: lynx is painful to use
[21:06] <Charlotte> is skype 1.4 work with gutsy  or not yet???
[21:06] <greencookie> how do i install Gutsy?
[21:06] <Evanlec> buchiach, just boot up from the cd and run the installer..it should setup dual-boot for you automatically
[21:06] <greencookie> Clearze1: So I agree.
[21:06] <calc> Flats: yes, it works for me on gutsy
[21:06] <Luca> how much faster in % would 64bit version be?
[21:06] <Luca> more than 105?
[21:06] <mc44> !install | greencookie
[21:06] <askand>  buchiach: Not entirely automatic...You need to partitionate your harddrive (If you dont have two harddrives?)
[21:06] <ubotu> greencookie: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[21:07] <Luca> 10%
[21:07] <Instabin|Work> greencookie: with a cd
[21:07] <calc> Luca: probably 5-10%
[21:07] <stray77> greencookie, download the iso, burn the image and boot your computer from the cd
[21:07] <Flats> hmm I have 7.10 dunno names yet
[21:07] <calc> Luca: some slower and some faster
[21:07] <buchiach> ok thanks Evanlec and Vlet
[21:07] <Evanlec> Luca, its about 5-10% overalll like he said, some apps can be up to 60% faster
[21:07] <Luca> meh not worth it
[21:07] <greencookie> thnx stray77
[21:07] <Bill-Goldberg> is their a way to reupgrade ?
[21:07] <citronbleu-v> j'ai la version beta de la 7.10 (il y aura une mise à jour ou pas ?
[21:07]  * Luca downloads i386
[21:07] <DerDritte|Happy> I installed the kubuntu-desktop package with aptitude, will feisty->gutsy upgrade that package as well? (As I installed ubuntu first, it seemed the right choice to upgrade)...
[21:07] <DerDritte|Happy> *?
[21:07] <calc> Luca: iirc ogg encoder was a lot faster, but some are slower
[21:07] <askand> Bill-Goldberg: reupgrade?
[21:07] <pedro> i ve pasted the mp3 files from windows to linux that is alocated in vmware. where can i found these mp3 files?
[21:07] <Charlotte> hey how do u guys install skye on gutsy???
[21:07] <Evanlec> Luca, if i were u i'd give ti a shot...the only way ppl are going to move to 64-bit is if they start using it!@!
[21:07] <greencookie> !fr | citronbleu-v
[21:07] <ubotu> citronbleu-v: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:07] <Clearze1> Is there a ubuntu Mobile distro?
[21:07] <Bill-Goldberg> i upgraded and it stucked and now everything is messed up.
[21:07] <Charlotte> skype**
[21:07] <jburd> citronbleu-v: #ubuntu-fr
[21:07] <DavyDeagle> anyone having issues with the repositories?
[21:07] <Bill-Goldberg> so i want to reupgrade
[21:08] <askand> Charlotte: I download the deb from skypes webpage
[21:08] <ejer> Charlotte: download it from skype.com
[21:08] <citronbleu-v> sory,
[21:08] <stray77> DavyDeagle, ya they are all real slow
[21:08] <_gpg_> is it possible to put gnome icon instead of the one (ubuntu) near Application please ?
[21:08] <Charlotte> thanx
[21:08] <DavyDeagle> k thanx
[21:08] <martoya> DavyDeagle: many people have problems today, be patient
[21:08] <DavyDeagle> yea np
[21:08] <f0rgeIf`> I got a problem when installing screenlets. When i do a screenletsd add Control in my shell I get this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41120/plain/
[21:08] <pedro> i ve pasted the mp3 files from windows to linux that is alocated in vmware. where can i find these mp3 files?
[21:08] <DerDritte|Happy> lol, /me upgrading at ~70 kb/s...
[21:08] <Vlet> _gpg_: that's based on your theme as far as I know
[21:08] <DavyDeagle> lucky
[21:08] <DavyDeagle> im at 14k/s
[21:09] <_gpg_> Vlet ok  ty
[21:09] <zcode_> nicholas: Thanks for thel ink
[21:09] <jburd> Lucky.
[21:09] <jburd> I'm at ... failed.
[21:09] <greencookie> how do i uninstall firefox and then reinstall it?:D
[21:09] <Dr_willis> pedro,  pasted?  i always trasfer stuff with the network neighborhood/samba stuff.
[21:09] <zcode_> nicholas: I'm looking for the PS3 link as welll... if you have it, please!!!!
[21:09] <ARJones> how do you turn off the little balloons that popup when you hover over things such as "show desktop", it pops up and tells you what the button does
[21:09] <Dr_willis> greencookie,  why do you THINK you need todo that?
[21:09] <Banker> hmm
[21:09] <OM1136> i did apt-cdrom add, it did, what do I do to complete the upgrade to 7.10?
[21:09] <nicholas> zcode_: haven't seen it :-(
[21:09] <Sp0tUb> How do i get in "SUPERUSER" mode in Ubuntu?
[21:09] <stray77> greencookie, same question as Dr_willis
[21:09] <alonzo> #ubuntu-fr
[21:09] <greencookie> Dr_willis: Cuz my firefox hangs too frequently
[21:10] <Evanlec> !sudo | Sp0tUb
[21:10] <Whitor> Sp0tUb: sudo command
[21:10] <ubotu> Sp0tUb: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[21:10] <zcode_> nicholas: That's fine... I can wait.
[21:10] <greencookie> and I have to force quit it.:(
[21:10] <pedro> dr wills how can i manage that! i don t know what that is?
[21:10] <mindspring> switched cablemodem providers
[21:10] <zcode_> nicholas, thanks anyway
[21:10] <Dr_willis> Sp0tUb,  learn to use Sudo, and its variants
[21:10] <ouroborous> ever since uninstalling xgl, i have to manually startx to get gnome to run for my user account.  i'm a noob... what did I break?  it works when I manually run startx (although user switcher dies), but if i don't run startx the ui startup just dumps back to console
[21:10] <ejer> greencookie: to wipe all firefox settings and start as if u reinstalled, do a rm -rf ~/.mozilla/firefox
[21:10] <mindspring> went from rcn to time warner, upload speed is slower but connection is ROCK SOLID
[21:10] <greencookie> ejer: thanks
[21:10] <ejer> greencookie: but you will lose ALL FF configs like bookmarks etc
[21:10] <Dr_willis> pedro,  i have NO idea what you mean by 'paste' either..   Samba is how you 'share' folders with windows machines.
[21:10] <Dr_willis> !samba
[21:10] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[21:10] <Forssen85> How do I turn on 3d effects?
[21:10] <greencookie> ejer: its OK. I got delicious:)
[21:11] <pramz> ouroborous, afaik with Xgl you have to run a secondary X server, in gdmsetup you should be able to set what default X server comes up. At least thats what I had to do when I used XGL last which was nearly a year ago
[21:11] <Sp0tUb> But.. Im logged in as a normal user, admin, but i want to mount a NTFS external harddrive, but im not allowed, what to do?
[21:11] <calc> Forssen85: system->preferences->appearance
[21:11] <f0rgeIf`> I got a problem when installing screenlets. When i do a screenletsd add Control in my shell I get this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41120/plain/
[21:11] <stray77> Forssen85, read this page -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/
[21:11] <calc> Forssen85: select visual effect tab
[21:11] <Forssen85> Is the cube-desktop removed in this version??
[21:11] <mc44> Forssen85: no
[21:11] <stray77> Forssen85, read this page -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/
[21:11] <Evanlec> Sp0tUb, do 'sudo mount <device> <target>'
[21:11] <Forssen85> Ok.
[21:11] <flithm> hey everyone... is it possible to "burn" the live cd to a usb drive and use it as the install media (assuming my machine can boot from usb)?
[21:11] <wamty> can someone help me with this error please http://pastebin.com/m5625cdc2? I just upgrade from Ubuntu fiesty to Gusty  and got this error
[21:11] <greencookie> My next problem : when I try using fglrx driver on my Fiesty (amd 64) X crashes. any ideas?
[21:11] <darren> what is the xine plugin for firefox called?
[21:12] <pedro> Dr willis i had copy the mp3  and pasted one vmware program
[21:12] <Forssen85> stray77: : tnx
[21:12] <mc44> flithm: should be
[21:12] <zcode_> nicholas, I found it here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/
[21:12] <bori1> 7.10 rocks!
[21:12] <flithm> mc44: would I just dd the iso to the drive?
[21:12] <Vlet> darren: Yeah, I wasn't having luck with the vlc mozilla plugin either... just installed mplayer and the mplayer mozilla plugin, and now stage6 stuff is working nicely
[21:12] <mc44> darich: xine-plugin
[21:12] <ouroborous> pramz:  okay I'm retarded, because gdmsetup says i'm not running gnome.  yet i'm in gnome.  hmm...
[21:12] <Sp0tUb> Evanlec Maybe asking stupid, but where do i see what device it is and the target? :-)
[21:12] <wamty> ?
[21:13] <DavyDeagle> ok question here, installed, grub is not installing to boot drive, /dev/sda but rather /dav/hda
[21:13] <ace1> hello everyone
[21:13] <Evanlec> Sp0tUb, the target is just whatever directory u want to mount it to, such as /media/disk, to find the device try 'sudo fdisk -l'
[21:13] <Dr_willis> pedro,  you selected a file under gnome, and used 'copy' then clicked on the vmware session and used windows 'paste' ?
[21:13] <DavyDeagle> if i have vista on /dev/sda is it safe to chaneg it
[21:13] <Dr_willis> pedro,  im not sure that even works. :)
[21:13] <greencookie> DavyDeagle: I dont think so:)
[21:13] <Charlotte> hey guys i have a small problem
[21:13] <Charlotte> :(
[21:13] <DavyDeagle> lol
[21:13] <pedro> no
[21:13] <askand> Forssen85: System-settings-looks
[21:13] <mc44> flithm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[21:13] <pramz> ouroborous, under security tab, click on configure X server
[21:13] <greencookie> !wpa
[21:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:13] <ace1> anyone have any experience with madwifi-ng?
[21:13] <Sp0tUb> Evanlec sudo fdisk -l ?
[21:13] <flithm> mc44: thanks!
[21:14] <ejer> ace1: yup
[21:14] <TSNSD> Is there anyway in an ubuntu kickstart file to make the installer not check for security updates during install? I get a popup asking for a proxy server then later a popup with an error dialogue since my machines are behind a firewall
[21:14] <pedro> i had copied the files from windows and pasted on vmware
[21:14] <Evanlec> Sp0tUb, correct
[21:14] <Nitecat> Charlotte: what's your problem?
[21:14] <Sp0tUb> Evanlec thx :-)
[21:14] <Evanlec> TSNSD, mine wouldnt detect my wireless card during install, but it still installed no problem
[21:14] <Bill-Goldberg> how can i make my /home is own partition ?
[21:15] <wamty> guys?
[21:15] <Charlotte> my gr-card is Nvidia 7200 go and im using restricted drivers for it (Gutsy :)  ) but my resolution is 1024x768 on 50hz
[21:15] <wamty> can someone help me with this error please http://pastebin.com/m5625cdc2? I just upgrade from Ubuntu fiesty to Gusty  and got this error
[21:15] <Evanlec> pedro, but where did u paste them?
[21:15] <Evanlec> !video | Charlotte
[21:15] <ubotu> Charlotte: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[21:15] <Evanlec> oops
[21:15] <Dr_willis> pedro,  Not sure if you can cut/paste files  that way. Go ask in #vmware perhaps - ive never tried it that way
[21:15] <r0b-> why are the servers slow at downloading?
[21:15] <Evanlec> !resolution | Charlotte
[21:15] <ubotu> Charlotte: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:15] <greencookie> is Gutsy better than Fiesty?
[21:15] <TSNSD> Evanlec: It installs fine, I am using a kickstart file though that needs to be automated so that I dont get those popups due to the security updater check during install
[21:15] <vonderer> hi there. have some problems with fluxbox
[21:15] <jim> Kind of an emergency here...  In the middle of Distupgrade from 7.04 to 7.10  It is hung right now at 'Setting up CFS'  Any help?
[21:15] <Dr_willis> greencookie,  yes.. happy? :)
[21:15] <Evanlec> greencookie, arguably yes
[21:15] <pedro> i don t know where is it
[21:15] <ejer> r0b-: cause everyone is doing what u r doing
[21:15] <ddonky> whats the offtopic room name?
[21:16] <Charlotte> im traing to change ot to 1280x1024 on 60hz without any luck
[21:16] <greencookie> Ah! I'm downloading the isO:)
[21:16] <pedro> i just dragged with mouse to vmware
[21:16] <Dr_willis> pedro,  it would be in the foloder you had selected when you used paste. i imagine.
[21:16] <stray77> before i try to install gutsy on my asus p5w-dh raid 10 array, Im wondering if anyone has had any success. i know 7.04 wouldnt see the array.
[21:16] <genii> Clearze1:There seems to be a generic 2.6.X  deb here http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~1j16cu
[21:16] <Evanlec> !resolution | Charlotte
[21:16] <ubotu> Charlotte: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:16] <lomez> hi, question, when i wine utorrent, it wont let me pull up the window. is there an ubuntu torrent client that allows encryption?
[21:16] <Nitecat> Charlotte: Have you looked at your xorg.conf file?
[21:16] <pedro> i just dragged with mouse to vmware but i dont  do a clue where are the files
[21:16] <Dr_willis> pedro,   try it again, draging to a empty folder.
[21:16] <Corola> hi there.Can someone tell me if there is a howto which explains the installation of the nvidia driver on ubuntu?(i mean the drive which can be downloaded on the nvidia site)
[21:16] <ddonky> !offtopic
[21:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:16] <sebastes> lomez: Deluge maybe?
[21:17] <r0b-> im getting irritated with these slow servers :P
[21:17] <nerdygirl_ellie> My gnome-panel is using 1.7GB of Ram.
[21:17] <r0b-> but i need my packages
[21:17] <ace1> anyone know why kismet would previously work, but when i restarted i can't get it to run again? it appears madwifi-ng (or kismet?) is trying to use madwif_g but i set it as b in kismet.conf. I'm sure i fiddled with something to mess this up, i was fiddling with airodump, got that working then wanted to go back to kismet but i cannot get it to run again. I read that possible i need the newest madwifi-ng (i'm on 7.04 ubuntu) but those articles
[21:17] <Charlotte> thnax ubuntu (kiss) i will start reading and we will see how it goes
[21:17] <Evanlec> !nvidia | Corola
[21:17] <ubotu> Corola: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:17] <Nitecat> man the ubuntu site is slammed today... never gonna get my debs :(
[21:17] <fkumro> lomez,  Deluge is what I use
[21:17] <Vlet>  nerdygirl_ellie: sure that's not MB?
[21:17] <Mmph> r0b- you should ask for a refund :p
[21:17] <lomez> fkmuro, it has encryption?
[21:17] <r0b-> Nitecat: dont feel bad
[21:17] <Sp0tUb> Evanlec still here?
[21:17] <sebastes> lomez: Yep
[21:17] <Evanlec> Mmph, LOL
[21:17] <fkumro> lomez, Yes
[21:17] <Corola> !nvidia
[21:17] <lomez> thanks man
[21:17] <r0b-> I DEMAND XCHAT!!!!!
[21:17] <Evanlec> Sp0tUb, yep..
[21:17] <fkumro> lomez, np
[21:18] <stray77> Mmph, lol.
[21:18] <r0b-> untill then i gotta use Pidgin
[21:18] <r0b-> :(
[21:18] <dryrot> are those package servers really round-robining ?
[21:18] <humbolto> bulletproveX is broken for nvidia go cards!
[21:18] <Sp0tUb> Evanlec Dosent work, it says i have to force it
[21:18] <DavyDeagle> why cant u get xchat yet
[21:18] <Evanlec> r0b-, should be able to just grab the .deb from xchat.org
[21:18] <r0b-> 0% [Waiting for headers]
[21:18] <nerdygirl_ellie> Vlet: Yes, I'm sure.  I'm very very patiently waiting on the gnome-panel-dbg package to come down so I can backtrace it.
[21:18] <Sp0tUb> Evanlec Whats the risc?
[21:18] <Charlotte> no how to edit and what exactly to edit xorg.conf file
[21:18] <DavyDeagle> oh nm
[21:18] <r0b-> i did but im waiting for dependencies to download :P
[21:18] <Evanlec> Sp0tUb, what are u trying to do?
[21:18] <Nitecat> Charlotte: If you still don't get working come back and let us know.  It's a pretty routine conf problem.
[21:18] <pedro> i ve already copied and now how can acess these file with linux?
[21:18] <ubuntu_> Quick question
[21:18] <DavyDeagle> r0b: im tryin to get Ati drivers for the past hour
[21:18] <ouroborous> okay that explains it... ps -ef confirms i'm not running gdm.  what the hell dm am I running... sure wish i understood x better :-|
[21:19] <r0b-> wow
[21:19] <Larep> My font are ugly! -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565812&highlight=ugly+fonts
[21:19] <Sp0tUb> Evanlec Im trying to mount my 500Gb External harddriva for storage space :-)
[21:19] <greencookie> !ati |DavyDeagle
[21:19] <ubotu> DavyDeagle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:19] <r0b-> damn this new release
[21:19] <trpr> r0b: i ended up switching to a local mirror / tweaking my resolv.conf since dns was timing out. < 2hrs over here :)
[21:19] <ubuntu_> I want to keep using the same user account from my feisty /home
[21:19] <DavyDeagle> oh i know how to install them thanks just downloading took a while
[21:19] <r0b-> there we go
[21:19] <Fat_Ferret> can ubuntu use normal windows fonts?
[21:19] <Vlet> nerdygirl_ellie: yikes :o
[21:19] <Evanlec> Sp0tUb, okay, and u said it was ntfs? u need the ntfs-3g package]\
[21:19] <Charlotte> well what exatcly to change in xorg??
[21:19] <Evanlec> !ntfs | Sp0tUb
[21:19] <ubotu> Sp0tUb: ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[21:19] <Mmph> is there a apt-repo list somewhere, or are the default repositories the only ones?
[21:19] <Sp0tUb> Evanlec Its NTFS yes :-)
[21:19] <r0b-> 15 minutes :(
[21:19] <r0b-> im gone
[21:19] <chapium> does anyone know how to correct problems with the updater?  After upgrading to gutsy and rebooting, new updates fail
[21:19] <Voss> greetings all
[21:19] <ubuntu_> When the gutsy installer asks for me to create a user can just put in my old information?
[21:20] <greencookie> Voss: hello :)
[21:20] <pedro> i ve already copied to my virtual machine the mp3 files and now how can acess these file with linux?
[21:20] <Vlet> ubuntu_: Anything you'd like
[21:20] <chapium> all new updates are stopped by an error with tzdata
[21:20] <openforlife> How should I back up my MySQL database?
[21:20] <tomd123> is anyone else helping seed the ubuntu iso torrent?
[21:20] <ace1> i'll try poking in after the upgrade storm's over i guess - take care ya'll
[21:20] <TSNSD> I need the parameter to pass to the installer for an automated kickstart install that tells the installer not to check the net during install so that my install is fully automated with no user input needed. The ubuntu installer automatically checks the net for security updates during install, I need to pass it a parameter to tell it not to do that.
[21:20] <Sp0tUb> Evanlec Package? Can i get it with my "Add/Remove"?
[21:20] <Clearze1> genii: Thanks
[21:20] <ejer> openforlife: mysqldump
[21:20] <openforlife> tomd123, I am :)
[21:20] <tonyyarusso> tomd123: of course :)
[21:20] <DavyDeagle> ok install of glibc failed on amd64 install of 7.10
[21:20] <Voss> So...I'm shopping for a new notebook to run Ubuntu on it exclusively, I'll pastebin the specs to see what you guys think
[21:20] <openforlife> ejer, thanks
[21:20] <tomd123> im on a university connection so im uploading 500kilobytes/s
[21:20] <tomd123> :P
[21:20] <Nitecat> TSNSD: It doesn't ask?  I thought it did.  Maybe I have distro vertigo.  Unplug your network card :P
[21:21] <Vlet> pedro: If you copied them to a virtual machine, the only way to access them would be to boot up the virtual machine, and then set up a shared folder to copy them to linux
[21:21] <TSNSD> It DOES ask
[21:21] <Charlotte> :(
[21:21] <Evanlec> !ntfs-3g | Sp0tUb
[21:21] <ubotu> Sp0tUb: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:21] <TSNSD> I need it NOT TO
[21:21] <Optimus__Prime> hehe
[21:21] <RivaeAerya> why is Kubuntu much more unsupported in some things than Ubuntu?
[21:21] <Nitecat> TSNSD: Well tell it no
[21:21] <TSNSD> ummmm
[21:21] <LjL> RivaeAerya: fewer developers.
[21:21] <Dr_willis> Vlet,  so you can confirm that cut/pasteing files from vmware-session <--> linux Os dosent work eh? :)
[21:21] <TSNSD> fully automated kickstart install
[21:21] <Nitecat> TSNSD: oh sorry
[21:21] <Dr_willis> Vlet,  i know you can do text cut/pasteing.. but never tried a file.
[21:21] <ejer> RivaeAerya: like what
[21:21] <Mmph> because KDE requires less tech support RivaeAerya
[21:22] <Stwange> can anyone give me a hand, since I updated eclipse isn't working. I tried removing all related packages and reinstalling but with no luck. It keeps saying workspace failed to initialise: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.Plugin, and when I try to create a new project it just does nothing
[21:22]  * Mmph ducks
[21:22] <RivaeAerya> Mmph: no i mean hardware support, software support, features, that kinda stuff
[21:22] <RivaeAerya> stableness
[21:22] <Vlet> Dr_willis: No, I don't think that works... last I tried, it doesn't work in windows either
[21:22] <Voss> Let me know what you guys think: http://pastebin.com/d1c8728f0
[21:22] <ubuntu_> I want to use my old user account from feisty on gutsy. I already have mounted my old /home partition as my new gutsy partition in the installer. Should I put my old user information in when asked to create a user in the installer?
[21:22] <RivaeAerya> bugginess
[21:22] <Dr_willis> RivaeAerya,  i think you are mistaken in many of your statements.
[21:22] <Mmph> probably less volinteers
[21:22] <Blama> Whenever I try to boot up Ubuntu I choose it on the loader and then it stops sending information to my monitor. I think the problem is that I need to change the xserv-xorg config to use VESa instead of ATI but whenever I boot into recovery mode and get the command line, my keyboard does not work. If I unplug it and then plug it in I get the error "usb 1-1: device descriptor read/all, error -62"
[21:22] <RivaeAerya> Dr_willis: please do explain
[21:22] <ejer> RivaeAerya: kde works fine here, if anything has more features than gnome
[21:22] <beast_> hello
[21:22] <Maarten> hmm. I take it that us.archive.ubuntu.com is just simply overloaded right now? :P
[21:22] <ejer> and it is not really ubuntu doing the dev anyways
[21:22] <Dr_willis> RivaeAerya,   the hardware support is NOT related to KDe or GNOME. its part of the Underlaying OS.
[21:22] <Evanlec> RivaeAerya, because less people use kubuntu ... simple as that
[21:22] <`Matir> RivaeAerya, I would say that KDE is quite stable... but gnome gets more because it's what is part of core ubuntu.  Many would say it NEEDS more work.
[21:23] <Optimus__Prime> I like Gnome:)
[21:23] <Larep> Why my gusty's font are orrible ?
[21:23] <Dr_willis> RivaeAerya,  as for 'features' thats just vague/
[21:23] <Evanlec> !fonts | Larep
[21:23] <ubotu> Larep: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer