[00:36] <pkcbrandon> Hey, How's It Going Show #63 with Nicole Schoenholz
[01:12] <veremitz> o,O
[03:23] <Eickmeyer> !ot | pkcbrandon:
[03:23] <Eickmeyer> !topic
[03:33] <theteju> good evening everyone.
[03:34] <theteju> I am an educator and in desperate need for a screencast recorder.
[03:34] <theteju> I am currently on debian , I tried.. three different softwares but unable to record screen and audio together
[03:35] <theteju> i can record, audio through audacity and screen through Vokoscreen
[03:36] <theteju> please help
[03:36] <theteju> I need something that works out of the box
[15:41] <Christoffer[m]> How can I join the ubuntu studio community and get a nice icon thing for the ubu-stu channels (In Matrix)?
[15:41] <Christoffer[m]> +ubuntu-studio:matrix.org
[15:42] <Christoffer[m]> Seems like you have to be invited
[15:44] <OvenWerks> not sure, I just use irc
[15:44] <OvenWerks> (in a text terminal even)
[15:47] <Christoffer[m]> It's ficed :D
[15:47] <Christoffer[m]>  * It's fixed :D


[00:10] <Tatsujin> openshot sure has issues in lubuntu, first in lubuntu-desktop it doesn't run at all and in a clean install of lubuntu it does actually start but shuts down instantly.
[00:38] <lubun> how do i get to a mp3? media?
[00:46] <lubun> wow my mp3 has 7.9 gigs and 6gigs is deleted files and i cant get them off..? but i think its a mp3 problem not with pc
[01:05] <ethan> i'd just like to say thank you to any programmers of lubuntu who might be here
[01:05] <ethan> this system is awesome
[01:05] <ethan> i'm running on an asus eeepc 900a with 4 gb of hard drive space and 1 gb of ram
[01:06] <ethan> and this thing is running really well
[01:08] <Unit193> I'm not dev, but thanks for those kind words!
[02:05] <bioterror> best music player is MOC
[02:30] <ethan> i want to install a deb file
[02:30] <ethan> is there a program i can use with a gui
[02:30] <ethan> that i can download with the terminal
[02:31] <Unit193> ethan: You should be able to use gdebi
[02:31] <ethan> i'll try that
[02:32] <ethan> is there a gui i could download with it?
[02:32] <ethan> this doesn't have it
[02:33] <ethan> oh got it thanks
[02:33] <Unit193> You couldn't just double click on the .deb?
[02:34] <ethan> it was set to open in the terminal
[02:34] <ethan> which i could figure out, but i dont feel like taking the time
[02:35] <Unit193> It's the method I use :P (Not for everyone...)
[02:35] <ethan> ya i use the terminal a lot but i feel uncomfortable using it to install from the hard disk
[02:35] <ethan> i just dont know that well how to use it
[02:37] <Unit193> I use   sudo dpkg -i file.deb   and you may also need   sudo apt-get install -f   for missing depends
[02:38] <ethan> well this is pretty much a fresh install
[02:38] <ethan> i dont see how there could really be any missing depends
[02:38] <KM0201> ethan: when you double clicked the .deb, did it open in terminal and ask you to type I for install, or a couple other commands?
[02:39] <KM0201> otherwise, they'll open in Gdebi, at least they do for me
[02:39] <ethan> yeah
[02:39] <ethan> but i dont really need that
[02:39] <KM0201> yeah what?
[02:39] <ethan> yeah it asked to type i for install
[02:39] <ethan> that stuff
[02:39] <ethan> but it's fine
[02:39] <KM0201> ethan: thats an install script it runs, click I, then type sudo..
[02:40] <KM0201> thats not how you install from terminal, some .debs just do that.
[02:40] <ethan> i understand how to do it i just would rather have a gui
[02:41] <KM0201> ethan: ok, then install gdebi
[02:41] <ethan> even though its a lot easier to type five characters
[02:41] <jmarsden> Why are we doing installs from downloaded .deb files instead of from a repository?
[02:41] <KM0201> you're not making sense... you don't want to install a gdebi, cuz you "don't need it"... but you don't want to use the terminal either
[02:41] <KM0201> jmarsden: well, thats another issue..
[02:41] <ethan> the .deb was nt from a repository
[02:41] <jmarsden> ethan: Where *was* it from?  That sounds dangerous...
[02:41] <ethan> i already have gdebi
[02:42] <KM0201> ethan: then install it weith gdebi, or is clicking "install package" to much work now?
[02:42] <ethan> i didnnt know
[02:42] <ethan> guys its done youre making a mountain out of a mole hill
[02:42] <ethan> it was just using terminal as default instead of gdebi
[02:43] <KM0201> ethan: ok, well, at least you got it resolved, but you said a minute ago, you'd rather not install gdebi
[02:43] <KM0201> but tats fine, glad you got it resolved
[02:43] <ethan> hahaha no i meant i didnt need to cause i had it
[02:43] <ethan> im not new to ubuntu
[02:43] <KM0201> .. the more this conversation goes, the more confused i get
[02:43] <ethan> im just used to more enhanced versions
[02:44] <ethan> ok
[02:44] <ethan> one more thing
[02:44] <ethan> im trying to download a package
[02:44] <ethan> from chromium
[02:44] <KM0201> chromium is in the repository..
[02:44] <ethan> it gives me an external protocol request
[02:44] <ethan> and i click ok
[02:44] <ethan> and it just opens a new windoow in chromium
[02:45] <Unit193> KM0201: Download from a website using chromium
[02:45] <KM0201> man, i'm either off my game, or.. i dunno...
[02:45] <KM0201> nothing being said makes sense.
[02:45] <ethan> any way to make it actually download the file?
[02:46] <jmarsden> ethan: Sounds like either chromium or xdg-open or both do not fully know how to deal with the mime-type that website is giving to the package file.
[02:46] <jmarsden> Can't you right click and do save as... ?
[02:46] <ethan> doesnt work
[02:46] <ethan> so how do I fix it?
[02:47] <jmarsden> ethan: You can figure out the relevant mime type, then hack on the xdg-open script, I'd guess... easier to just use wget (or better still, quit downloading packages from anywhere that is not a known and trusted repository in the first place!)
[02:48] <jmarsden> Ubuntu is not Windows.  We do not just downlaod random binary packages and install them.
[02:48] <ethan> i understand that
[02:48] <jmarsden> Then ... why are you downloading random binary packages and installing them?
[02:49] <ethan> is it wrong i want do download a few  packages that arent in a repo?
[02:49] <ethan> and they arent that random
[02:49] <jmarsden> If you downloaded the source packages adn checked them out carefully, and then built the binaries from them, that's fine...
[02:49] <Unit193> jmarsden: They may not be random to him and he may require something that isn't in the repo or is an old version
[02:49] <jmarsden> Unit193: Deliberately breaking package management by dwonloading binaries from untrusted places is a bad idea.  period.
[02:50] <KM0201> ethan: what other versions of linux have you used?
[02:50] <KM0201> (and were proficient with)
[02:50] <ethan> pretty much ubuntu
[02:50] <ethan> i tried fedora
[02:50] <ethan> but didnt like it
[02:50] <ethan> lubuntu is just more stripped down
[02:50] <Unit193> jmarsden: And if the person installing trusts them? The repo isn't always up to date.
[02:51] <jmarsden> Unit193: The only way you know you can trust a package is if you trust whoever signed it... or you built it yourself, of course, after reading the sources from which it is built.
[02:52] <ethan> or you can just not care because theres nothing on the computer of real value anyway
[02:52] <jmarsden> PPAs are free; anyone providing binary packages without corresponding sources is therefore pretty suspect.
[02:52] <jmarsden> ethan: Your bandwidth has real value... to spammers.  They don't care what is on your computer, just that they can take it over and use it for their own purposes.
[02:53] <jmarsden> Failing to care about the security if an Internet connected machine is, therefore, unwise.
[02:53] <jmarsden> s/if/of/
[03:11] <zkriesse_> jmarsden: Calm down buddy
[03:11] <zkriesse_> You don't need to go all into super security on the guy, just answer the question as it was asked, not give a biography on how to install a file
[03:12] <jmarsden> zkriesse_: Someone else already did that; I merely questioned the wisdom of the underlying act.
[03:13] <zkriesse_> Indeed
[03:13] <zkriesse_> Which is fine :) Just don't scare the guy with your knowledge lol
[03:13] <jmarsden> zkriesse_: Some of us have been working in network admin and network security since well before some folks in this channel were born...
[03:13] <jmarsden> Scaring people away from random downloads of binaries is, IMO, probably a good thing :)
[03:14] <zkriesse_> jmarsden: Indeed, I do not dispute that fact, I'm merely suggesting a little less info at one time lol don't overwhelm, rather inform at an understandable pace.
[03:15] <jmarsden> Well.... OK.  Each sentence was in response to a specific statement from someone else in channel.  I didn't just type in a security encyclopedia :)
[03:15] <zkriesse_> Hehehe
[03:26] <stlsaint> sup folks
[04:22] <ethan> you guys know any vnc/remote desktop applications that are good with lubuntu?
[04:22] <Unit193> x11vnc works for me
[04:22] <Unit193> !vnc
[04:23] <ethan> x11vnc gives me an error though
[04:23] <Unit193> How do you start it?
[04:24] <Unit193> x11vnc -safer -forever -usepw -display :0     is what I use
[04:24] <ethan> i just go to the internet applications
[04:24] <ethan> and click x11vnc
[04:25] <ethan> I'm trying vino but i have no idea how to configure it
[04:27] <ethan> oh hey i got it nevermind
[12:55] <Eddie> hi, I have to use proxy to access internet, I want to create a shortcut (like a quick-launcher) on the panel, shortcut with a command like this:  chromium-browser --proxy-server="<IP_ADDRESS>:3128", any help would be appreciated, tia. Eddie
[12:57] <Eddie> sorry, I forgot to mention that I am using Lubuntu, can't find the way around to create a shortcut on the panel in Lubuntu... thanks
[13:11] <Eddie> Hi, is there any way around to create a shortcut on the panel in Lubuntu... thanks
[14:15] <dzone_> how to burn lubuntu oneiric on my usb flash drive
[14:16] <dzone_> I tried with LinuxLive USB creator but it can't do it
[14:45] <dzone> is there a problem to install lubuntu 10.10 and next to upgrade to 11.10
[14:45] <dzone> how the update/upgrade is happening
[18:29] <Slick666> Hi all
[18:30] <Slick666> I'm trying to share my network connection and I can't seem to get it working under lubuntu
[18:30] <Slick666> anyone seen some good posts explaining it?
[18:36] <andantino> i have just installed lubuntu on an older pc to see how it runs. I love it thus far. Very agile system. But I am having a problem with my monitor settings. It is detecting them at 1280x960
[18:37] <andantino> it should be 1024x768. I can change it without any problems but when I restart it resets to 1280x960
[18:38] <Kurdistan> andantino, open the terimal and right xrand
[18:38] <Kurdistan> write
[18:38] <andantino> one second kurdistan...ill be right back
[18:41] <andantino> alright....sorry about that
[18:41] <andantino> xrandr?
[18:42] <Kurdistan> yes
[18:42] <andantino> ok
[18:42] <andantino> done
[18:43] <Unit193> andantino: Just to make sure, how are you changing it?
[18:43] <andantino> i was using Monitor Settings in the preferences menu
[18:44] <andantino> ive had this problem with certain distros on this computer
[18:45] <Unit193> Hmmm.... That should keep the settings. Do you have an xorg.conf file? (/etc/X11/xorg.conf )
[18:45] <pmatulis> yea, finally got around to configuring dual k/b layout
[18:45] <Kurdistan> andantino, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[18:46] <andantino> im just going to try another restart here
[18:46] <andantino> brb
[18:48] <Slick666> Kurdistan do you have any idea about my network manager question?
[18:48] <Kurdistan> Slick666, samba share?
[18:49] <Slick666> nope
[18:49] <Slick666> trying to share my internet
[18:49] <Slick666> I'm on a laptop, wifi connects to the internet
[18:49] <andantino> alright its saved this time
[18:49] <Slick666> I was hoping to set network manager to share internet over the lan
[18:51] <Kurdistan> Slick666, I don´t use gnome network manager more
[18:51] <Kurdistan> so I can not say exactly
[18:51] <Slick666> what do you use?
[18:52] <Kurdistan> Slick666, you can try to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[18:52] <Slick666> thanks
[18:53] <Kurdistan> you can also read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[19:03] <trakinas> hi all.
[19:03] <trakinas> Lubuntu keep complaining about my system having less than 5.3GB. Why I can boot the iso on a 4GB pendrive but can't install it on the netbook? which also has 4GB
[19:04] <trakinas> trying to install 11.04
[19:05] <Unit193> trakinas: Trying to install with less HDD space needs the disk from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[19:05] <Unit193> "32 bit, low disk usage - For those people where hard disk space is critically low, this community edition requires just 2.7 GB of hard drive. This version is discussed at 11.04 Minimal Disk Space."
[19:06] <trakinas> thanks! i was trying to find some link like that.
[19:07] <trakinas> are there many seeds for the torrent?
[19:07] <phillw> it's in the topic :) I do wish people would read it :P
[19:08] <trakinas> phillw: I wouldnt try "get lubuntu" because I already got it.
[19:09] <Unit193> phillw: What do you think I typed right before? :D
[19:09] <trakinas> I tried something like "lubuntu 4gb" on google, but google finds many Ubuntu's link, but none lubuntu. and since today Im not on the mood of digging links from results, I came here. sorry for that.
[19:09] <phillw> trakinas: I'm not too sure how else to call that page. It is a listing of all our releases after 9.10
[19:10] <phillw> trakinas: it is no problem, we are here to help :)
[19:10] <trakinas> =]
[19:12] <phillw> trakinas: the torrent is on a server, as is the 1st iso area. The secondary iso area is my server.
[19:15] <trakinas> Im getting from http. thanks!
[20:12] <phillw> ;topic Topic for #lubuntu: Welcome to #lubuntu || Please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat  ||  The various version of Lubuntu 11.04The various versions of Lubuntu are available at http://tinyurl.com/GetLubuntu (please use the torrent feed). Always follow the channel guidelines - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[20:12] <Unit193> phillw: Failed :)
[20:13] <phillw> ;topic Topic for #lubuntu: Welcome to #lubuntu || Please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat  ||  The various version of Lubuntu are available at http://tinyurl.com/GetLubuntu (please use the torrent feed). Always follow the channel guidelines - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[20:14] <phillw> ;part #lubuntu
[20:16] <LAcan> guys I'm having a weird issue about the password for my default keyring... it doesnt accept my system password but rather my ubuntuone password... how can i change this?
[20:21] <phillw> LAcan: I'm not familiar with ubuntuone, you may be better asking on #ubuntu-beginners. They may well be familiar with the issue.
[20:22] <Unit193> LAcan: You can reset your keyring if you wish
[20:25] <trakinas> (please use the torrent feed) - sorry! haha! but there were no "minimal.torrent" link there. so I used the http
[20:33] <phillw> trakinas: that is why I try my best to ensure I hold a mirror of each iso on my server area.
[20:34] <phillw> the main minimal install isos are held on Canonical's own servers. I only hold the lubuntu ones.
[20:35] <trakinas> phillw: cool! If there is any .torrent somewhere/someday, let me know, so I can seed.
[20:37] <phillw> trakinas: seeders are always welcome, at each release the servers just get hammered. Even though I'm on a shared server, they are dead cool about it as they do not mind a sudden massive spike in my data bandwidth as they know for most of the time it is low.
[20:37] <trakinas> nice
[20:39] <phillw> I have no hesitation in recommending both my DNS provider, nor hoster. It has taken a few years, but for those who use them I've never heard a complaint.
[20:40] <phillw> trakinas: I'm going to send you an invite....
[21:33] <derSoldat> hello all
[21:34] <derSoldat> I would like to disable the resize icon in lxterminal
[21:34] <derSoldat> http://i.imgur.com/2CB0l.png
[21:34] <phillw> hiu derSoldat
[21:34] <derSoldat> I want to get rid of the grey rectangle in the bottom right hand corner
[21:34] <derSoldat> Any ideas?
[21:57] <LAcan> Unit193, how do i reset my keyring?
[21:59] <Unit193> LAcan: rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring (or login.keyring )
[22:00] <Unit193> LAcan: Are you using Natty or Maverick?
[22:00] <LAcan> and then just log back in?... im on lubuntu// not sure which it uses..?
[22:00] <Unit193> Type   lsb_release -rc   in the terminal
[22:01] <LAcan> maverick
[22:01] <LAcan> and thanks
[22:01] <Unit193> It's the first one in that case
[22:24] <andantino> lubuntu is great! i should have tried this before.
[22:24] <andantino> this is the perfect distro for my older pc
[22:27] <Kurdistan> andantino, yes lubuntu is indeed great distro.
[22:27] <Unit193> andantino: I think it's nice


[14:21] <roman_> kk
[18:14] <asearer> hello everyone
[18:22] <GridCube> hi
[18:23] <asearer> anyone else like xubuntu better than ubuntu?
[18:24] <asearer> personally i like how much faster it is on my particular hw
[18:29] <diogenes_Vx15> of course Xubuntu is way better.
[19:01] <asearer> honestly i really love the window manager, thats the main thing that i notice as being faster
[19:02] <asearer> i like the look of gnome on the standard ubuntu but this is just more responsive im noticing


[15:48] <tsimonq2> I'm working on a version of lubuntu-update-notifier which uses a systemd unit instead of... a sleep statement in an autostart file :/
[15:50] <tsimonq2> I am using the convention of ubuntu/nn-cycle for branches intended on being landed next cycle.
[15:50] <tsimonq2> Can anyone think of a simpler naming scheme?
[15:50] <tsimonq2> Perhaps... ubuntu/future/nn ?
[15:50] <tsimonq2> Yeah... I like that better.
 Any of those ^ they seem obvious to follow
[16:12] <tsimonq2> I have pushed an initial commit porting lubuntu-update-notifier to user systemd units: https://git.lubuntu.me/Lubuntu/lubuntu-update-notifier/commit/fa2ee62ea86a4ad1bbbf7a2d3d346d0f59e6fbbb
[16:12] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Commit fa2ee62 in Lubuntu/lubuntu-update-notifier "Rough, initial migration to systemd units."
[16:13] <tsimonq2> This is building locally for me now. I will try my best to test it in a virtual machine, so I'll just keep an ISO that's a few days old and try it on there.
[16:13] <tsimonq2> If anyone feels like spot checking that commit, go for it.
[16:13] <tsimonq2> And, if anyone feels like grabbing my cala-settings-ubuntu diff from mantic REJECTED and putting it in ubuntu/future/nn that would be cool too.
[16:14] <tsimonq2> I have some obligations to attend to, I will be back later.
[17:49] <tsimonq2> Okay, so I have it working. I just need to figure out how best to clean up the autostart files.
[18:15] <tsimonq2> As it is right now, I think the only bug *could* be the update notifier spamming during the upgrade... lemme see.
[18:26] <tsimonq2> Perfect. No such thing happens. The existing sh script loaded into memory runs forever in the background anyway. My postinst script scrubs all of those autostart files... and Lintian isn't complaining, so I think we might be good.
[18:27] <tsimonq2> I think we have a l-u-n that now uses systemd \o/
[18:28] <tsimonq2> It *does* start a little early on user login... but I think that's manageable.
[18:28] <tsimonq2> I'd say the last step would be to somehow get some settings from the "Configure Software Updates" tool or similar to work... I'm not sure if KDE has their own thing at all, but some config for this would be nice...
[18:30] <tsimonq2> Pushed my changes.
[18:30] <tsimonq2> One additional note - the update notifier will never work on the live session. That's intended behavior (that I agree with, tbh.)
 You guys are always my rubber ducky, this is open source :P
 Thank you :)


[18:33] <LaserJock> ok, so what's the best way to let IRC ops have access to a channel?
[18:34] <LaserJock> does ChanServ FLAGS #ChannelName *!*@freenode/staff/* +votiA work OK?
[18:36] <[NikO]> LaserJock, they don't need i think
[18:36] <LaserJock> oh?
[18:37] <[NikO]> as they are on the staff, they have full access to what they want ( i think )
[18:41] <erUSUL> LaserJock: The IRC Council also strongly encourages channels to list Freenode staff (*!*@freenode/staff/*) as operators, who can act in emergencies, ....
[18:41] <erUSUL> LaserJock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Coordination
[18:41] <LaserJock> ok
[19:03] <Ursinha> -meta as in meta-question?
[19:03] <jpds> [NikO]: The need to be on the access lists, so that they know that the owner has given them approval to deal with channel problems.
[19:04] <jpds> They}
[19:05] <PriceChild> Ursinha: one of LjL's toys I think.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MetaChannel
[19:12] <PriceChild> [NikO]: jpds i'm sure there is a wiki page on this... :/
[19:12] <erUSUL> PriceChild: 19:41 < erUSUL> LaserJock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Coordination
[19:13] <jpds> PriceChild: Yeah, can't remember it off from my head tho.
[19:13] <PriceChild> I think I'm imagining it.
[19:13] <PriceChild> No I mean off the freenode side.
[19:13] <PriceChild> But yeah, we won't meddle with channels normally even if we're on the flags list as freenode/staff unless there's something pretty major like a flooding problem etc.
[19:16] <[NikO]> in fact it s not a technical matter, but only a "respect" things no ?
[19:18] <PriceChild> There's lots of reasons.
[19:19] <PriceChild> Imagine if we tried to manage every single channel?
[19:20] <[NikO]> i don't really know ircops capability  ...
[19:25] <[NikO]> PriceChild, sorry, it s because you send me one :)
[19:26] <PriceChild> [NikO]: Nope, I queried you.
[19:26] <[NikO]> ah, perhaps it s my irssi proxy / xchat configuration
[19:27] <PriceChild> Probably.
[19:27] <PriceChild> I fiddled with that once... and got scared when random people started talking in private channels.
[19:28] <[NikO]> :)
[19:28] <PriceChild> no idea why, but when messages got put into the wrong channels in xchat, was correct in irssi.
[19:30] <[NikO]> i think xchat miss something about current focused channel, i must try each channel, when i ask, chanserv or nickserv, to see where these services answer to my query
[19:31] <PriceChild> [NikO]: try making their own query window.
[20:47] <kiran1> Please help im getting this error: libhal_acquire_global_interface_lock,and not able to install 8.10
[20:48] <[NikO]> kiran1, hi
[20:48] <[NikO]> kiran1, support channel is #ubuntu-fr
[20:48] <[NikO]> erf
[20:48] <[NikO]> #ubuntu
[21:00] <trucMuche> [NikO], hahaha