[16:14] <omgitsmit> youdmaniw: tunnelbear and such is great for a quick private browsing connection, but i would never trust a BROWSER to handle my most sensitive company data
[16:14] <EriC^^> PanV: sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[16:14] <omgitsmit> youdmaniw: plus, im sure this user wants to use the VPN for something other than just a browser.
[16:15] <PanV> Thanks EriC^^
[16:15] <EriC^^> np
[16:15] <omgitsmit> nandoe, test with a "what is my ip" website. make sure your actually using the vpn.
[16:15] <omgitsmit> nandoe: if its a connection issue, please pastbin your errors from the logs
[16:15] <nandoe> @youdmaniw: I also try TOR browser, but still many website blocking from my provider
[16:15] <omgitsmit> pastebin*
[16:16] <EriC^^> nandoe: if you're using tor the websites can't know your provider
[16:16] <EriC^^> nandoe: maybe it's a browser setting or something?
[16:16] <omgitsmit> nandoe: EriC^^: unless the tor node they happent o be using is also not allowed to browse said wesbite
[16:17] <EriC^^> omgitsmit: yeah, nandoe try pressing on new identity under options
[16:17] <jost> Ok, I searched a bit through the logs, and this could be the problem: error> [1432052107.082741] [platform/nm-linux-platform.c:1714] add_object(): Netlink error adding <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via <IP_ADDRESS> dev ppp0 metric 1024 mss 0 src user: Unspecific failure
[16:18] <jost> can someone tell what that error message indicates?
[16:18] <kokut> Hello, i changed the permission of my /var/www/ folder i now i cant save files i'm editing in sublime text for example, anyone knows which user should i add to the group that has permission over the files?
[16:18] <Midoshi27> Installed fail2ban 10 minutes ago, have already jailed 4 ip addresses
[16:18] <omgitsmit> jost: "Unspecific failure" - gotta love that detail
[16:18] <jost> omgitsmit: I do. Really.
[16:18] <daftykins> kokut: ls -al /var/www/ | pastebinit
[16:19] <youdmaniw> kokut: run your text editor as root
[16:19] <nandoe> My connection to vpn is no problem, but I read from documentation vpn to route all traffics networks need ethernet bridging. I stuck until here
[16:19] <daftykins> youdmaniw: no that is TERRIBLE advice
[16:19] <omgitsmit> jost: custom /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:20] <omgitsmit> nandoe: did you add your routes?
[16:20] <kokut> youdmaniw: no man i just want to add the user that is running the text editor to the group that has permission over the folder
[16:20] <daftykins> kokut: run the above please
[16:20] <kokut> daftykins: it doesn't say anything i didnt know, www-data is 4096 in the web-content group
[16:21] <kokut> that has permission in /html/
[16:21] <jost> omgitsmit: nope, at least I didn't get any notification while upgrading, and it also looks unmodified (content: \nauto lo\niface lo inet loopback)
[16:21] <somsip> nandoe: vpnbook does not support all traffic unless you are paying for it. The free account is limited
[16:21] <daftykins> kokut: yes but *I* want to see it in order to help :)
[16:21] <omgitsmit> jost: eh, thought i might as well ask haha
[16:21] <kokut> daftykins: can i just have two users with permission there? like my main user and www-data ?
[16:21] <nandoe> Maybe no, can you give me reference how to ethernet bridging? I read from documentation from openvpn still confuse
[16:22] <omgitsmit> jost: they might ask for a hardware pastebin, if you want to have that ready
[16:22] <daftykins> kokut: sigh. own the files as www-data:www-data then add your user to the www-data group, then add write permissions on the path for www-data - which i can confirm by seeing the pastebin i asked for :)
[16:23] <daftykins> sorry *group write permissions
[16:24] <ioria> jost if you have static ip, try automatic
[16:24] <omgitsmit> ioria: jost: no custom networking, brand new install
[16:24] <jost> ioria: everything works via dhcp
[16:24] <jost> Just found this: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733296#c4
[16:24] <omgitsmit> l ask haha
[16:24] <omgitsmit> [09:22] <       kokut>| daftykins: can i just have two users with permission there? like my main user and www-data ?
[16:24] <omgitsmit> [09:22] <      nandoe>| Maybe no, can you give me reference how to ethernet bridging? I read from documentation from openvpn still confuse
[16:25] <omgitsmit> woops
[16:25] <omgitsmit> thats what i get for trying to click a link ;)
[16:26] <omgitsmit> jost: so... you're missing a route?
[16:26] <omgitsmit> that seems trivial
[16:26] <jost> omgitsmit: the workaround there just worked... I remove the gateway from the routing config
[16:26] <omgitsmit> odd
[16:27] <jost> omgitsmit: thanks for the support
[16:27] <omgitsmit> jost: i did none of the sort!
[16:32] <omgitsmit> man, xubuntu 15.x is really nice
[16:33] <reisio> omgitsmit: twss
[16:34] <omgitsmit> reisio: i respect a woman that knows her distros ;)
[16:35] <reisio> you know what, so do I
[16:35] <reisio> I respect all women, in fact
[16:35] <reisio> they have interesting parts
[16:37] <omgitsmit> merp, is there no software center GUI rolled with xubuntu?
[16:38] <reisio> omgitsmit: there should be a GUI package manager frontend, but it's not software center
[16:38] <reisio> you can install software center, though
[16:38] <reisio> but it'll gnome up your xfce
[16:38] <reisio> a little more
[16:39] <stephenjudkins> i am running `openjdk-8-jre-headless` on vervet and am getting `java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty` whenever I attempt to make an https connection in Java
[16:39] <reisio> actually it might have software center after all :p
[16:39] <stephenjudkins> is this a known issue?
[16:39] <reisio> stephenjudkins: Java™ being incredibly insecure is
[16:39] <xangua> actually software center comes preinstalled in xubuntu
[16:39] <reisio> you'd probably have to go into the jvm prefs and say "hey, let's been even less secure!"
[16:39] <stephenjudkins> reisio: what do you mean?
[16:39] <reisio> xangua: hey look at you, catching up :p
[16:40] <reisio> stephenjudkins: ?
[16:40] <stephenjudkins> reisio: whatever
[16:41] <jKaideN> hey guys, just setting up Ubuntu 14.04, i don't have physical access to the server, so i had to install the OS remotely via cpanel and they had the OS for ubuntu
[16:41] <jKaideN> but I'm not sure if it's the latest version, should i be doing a do-release-upgrade
[16:41] <jKaideN> ?
[16:41] <omgitsmit> jKaideN: would it harm anything if you did?
[16:41] <OerHeks> 14.04 is the latest LTS.
[16:41] <reisio> well, the real question is would you have to spend time/money you don't have to undo it if it broke
[16:42] <jKaideN> OerHeks, there's like 14.04.2 ?
[16:42] <omgitsmit> +1 reisio
[16:42] <OerHeks> jKaideN, yes, update brings you to 14.04.2
[16:42] <omgitsmit> "If it aint broke, upgrade it"
[16:42] <reisio> not sure I'd bother, though
[16:42] <reisio> if you're using cpanel, your whole system is already that much less secure/unreliable
[16:42]  * reisio shrugs
[16:42] <omgitsmit> reisio: eh, that's arguable
[16:43] <jKaideN> reisio, it's not as if everything is pre-configured.
[16:45] <jKaideN> omgitsmit, how else can I install it then?
[16:45] <omgitsmit> jKaideN: if they give you shell access to kvm, i would just roll my own ubuntu install.
[16:45] <omgitsmit> assuming that's the hypervisor they're using
[16:45] <ColonelPanic001> anyone happen to know how long it typically takes to get a new releases mirror reviewed?
[16:45] <jayjo> I'm trying to use matplotlib (python) on an ubuntu server, what is an X11 header?
[16:46] <ColonelPanic001> not a big deal really, but my mirror was registered on April 2, and is still "pending review"
[16:46] <ColonelPanic001> shut up and take my mo...er, bandwidth
[16:46] <omgitsmit> jayjo: X11 header files, usually needed to compile stuff
[16:46] <reisio> it's not really arguable
[16:46] <reisio> a webUI has root access to your system
[16:46] <reisio> this webUI did not come from a .deb
[16:47] <jKaideN> omgitsmit, its ILO2 access. How can i prompt my own/custom ISO through this ?
[16:47] <omgitsmit> reisio: my cpanel does not have root, it only conrtols physical stuff like power management and networking
[16:47] <omgitsmit> jKaideN: you may have to contact them first
[16:47] <reisio> omgitsmit: which it does by having root
[16:48] <omgitsmit> reisio: root to the host system, but not to the guest vm
[16:48] <jayjo> omgitsmit: what is an X-server? What are the search terms to read up on this? Is it jsut an apt-get...? I have a private machine so I can put what I need on it to get matplotlib running
[16:48] <jKaideN> omgitsmit, oh is it Virtual Media ?
[16:48] <reisio> VM, oh lord
[16:48] <reisio> basically just look at http://web.archive.org/web/20051230181349/http://www.cpanel.net/images/header.swf
[16:48] <reisio> zoom in on her lips
[16:48] <reisio> that explains cpanel
[16:50] <Pici> omgitsmit: you only have access to cpanel? or do you have real cli access?
[16:51] <omgitsmit> Pici: shell access
[16:51] <omgitsmit> cpanel only controls physical power connections, not hypervisor or system operations
[16:51] <omgitsmit> i thought it would be more "secure" that way
[16:52] <Pici> omgitsmit: I got confused who was asking what somewhere, nevermind me ;)
[16:52] <Pici> jKaideN: How are you trying to install matplotlib?
[16:53] <jKaideN> Pici, what ?
[16:53] <Pici> jKaideN: I'm just being terrible at irc today.  Sorry.
[16:53] <Pici> jayjo: How are you trying to install matplotlib?
[16:55] <jayjo> I originally did it unsuccessfully via pip, now I used apt-get install python-matplotlib and it installed properly
[16:55] <Pici> jayjo: okay
[16:56] <jayjo> but matplotlib still wants to diplay the graphics
[16:57] <jKaideN> guys anyone have experience with ILO2 (HP Integrated Lights-Out 2) ?
[16:57] <Pici> jKaideN: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:57] <jKaideN> ta
[16:57] <jayjo> it's not an installation issue I don't believe, it requires something to write graphics when it can't display and it's X11
[16:58] <Pici> jayjo: This is for something that you're writing in python yourself?
[16:59] <Brayden5234> Hey guys do you remember my problem?
[17:00] <IrfanAlam> not able to play audio and video
[17:00] <Brayden5234> I am on the USB and the hard drive is plugged in... What next
[17:00] <IrfanAlam> The playback of this movie requires a MPEG-4 AAC decoder plugin which is not installed.
[17:01] <Brayden5234> Guys anyone on that remembers my problem?
[17:01] <reisio> I for one, do not
[17:02] <wafflejock> Bray90820, nope write it all in one line or give us a pastebin if it's a long explanation
[17:02] <Brayden5234> I am trying to install Ubuntu 15.04 on a external hard drive via running the try ubuntu on a USB stick
[17:02] <nemith> I can't seem to figure out how to map the caps lock key to ctrl on 15.04.  Any clues?
[17:03] <wafflejock> nemith, haven't tried 15.04 yet but you may want to check out xbindkeys I've used it for some key mapping stuff before
[17:03] <Brayden5234> Someone said it would be possible choosing the external hard drive to install it to it.
[17:06] <wafflejock> nemith, ah take it back just looked that up again, recall now I was just using that for keybindings to do various operations for the window manager, not mapping keys
[17:07] <nemith> yeah looks like I can run commands to key bindings
[17:07] <nemith> hmm
[17:07] <wafflejock> nemith, you try this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/149971/how-do-you-remap-a-key-to-the-caps-lock-key-in-xubuntu
[17:08] <Brayden5234> Hello guys, sorry I went off line for a second.
[17:08] <Brayden5234> Any thoughts on my problem/idea?
[17:08] <reisio> which'n?
[17:08] <wafflejock> Brayden5234, no worries, no replies came in so far
[17:09] <Brayden5234> Oh alright
[17:09] <wafflejock> reisio, Brayden5234 is trying to install via a USB live image to an external USB drive
[17:09] <nemith> wafflejock: i though so
[17:09] <wafflejock> if I understood correct, but isn't seeing the external
[17:09] <nemith> let me try again
[17:10] <Brayden5234> Yeah, so basically.... I am right now running Ubuntu 15.05 off of try ubuntu and trying to click the install icon on the desktop and install ubuntu to an external hard drive
[17:10] <wafflejock> Brayden5234, I can maybe help with checking your devices that are hooked up and checking if the external is mounted or if we can mount it manually, but I'm not familiar with the process for installing to an external drive
[17:10] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: why don't you just install ubuntu fully on the external hd
[17:10] <Brayden5234> Thats what I am trying to do.
[17:11] <Brayden5234> I do not know how though.
[17:11] <nemith> wafflejock: yeah that doesn't work for whatever reason
[17:11] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: the same way you would an internal one
[17:11] <al2o3-cr> just make sure you install grub to the external drive
[17:11] <Brayden5234> Oh really? So just choose the external hard drive and install?
[17:11] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: yeah
[17:11] <Brayden5234> How do I do that?
[17:12] <Brayden5234> Install grub I mean.
[17:12] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: sudo fdisk -l # check to see what your ext drive is
[17:12] <OerHeks> Brayden5234, start live session, mount that hdd, and start install ?
[17:12] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: the installer will do that
[17:13] <wafflejock> nemith, what does this show setxkbmap -query ?
[17:13] <Brayden5234> So that is it? Basically click the install ubuntu icon on the desktop and choose to install it on the external?
[17:13] <wafflejock> nemith, there's some more details on xkb here https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/769644-hacking-your-linux-keyboard-with-xkb and a link in there for xmodmap think thats the other one I was thinking of earlier
[17:13] <reisio> Brayden5234: should ask you where you want to install grub
[17:13] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: yeah but make sure you pick the external one
[17:14] <Brayden5234> Alright. Awesome thanks guys :D
[17:14] <Brayden5234> Also one more question? What IRC program on Ubuntu do you guys use?
[17:14] <reisio> worst case, you re-boot the live OS and fix it
[17:14] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: I use weechat :)
[17:14] <wafflejock> Bray90820, hexchat
[17:14] <reisio> I use hexchat for GUI, and irssi for not
[17:14] <wafflejock> Brayden5234, ^^
[17:14] <dprc> IrfanAlam, try installing: gstreamer1.0-libav
[17:15] <reisio> weechat's okay for not GUI, too
[17:15] <Brayden5234> Which is the best user friendly interface?
[17:15] <wafflejock> Brayden5234, hexchat is pretty simple and lightweight
[17:15] <Brayden5234> Basically the easiest one to use for a noob?
[17:15] <zykotick9> Brayden5234: which is the best colour?
[17:15] <Brayden5234> Alright I will try that one thanks :D
[17:16] <wafflejock> Brayden5234, Quassel has it's own DB for backing the logs so you get longer history but it's heavier and more to manage than it's worth IMO
[17:20] <charlie_sanders> Hi all, trying to install some libraries with "sudo apt-get install libc6-i386 libstdc++6-i386", but get the error "lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed" , trying to install lib32gcc1 and all the dependencies gets me nowhere,, it finally ends in  "libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-10ubuntu2) but 2.19-10ubuntu2.3 is to be installed" , how do I get these libs ??
[17:22] <charlie_sanders> also what happened to the ia32-libs package in 14.10 ??
[17:22] <charlie_sanders> And why is no one in here it's usually very busy
[17:22] <blakwire> hi guys, I have installed ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS> on my usb stick, everything is perfect expect I am trying to use my vpn connection to connect to internet through my college network, which doesn't work
[17:23] <OerHeks> charlie_sanders, try sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libstdc++6:i386
[17:23] <blakwire> in windows I can connect just fine, but in ubuntu I can only connect to a hotspot, but my internet vpn doesn't work
[17:23] <OerHeks> charlie_sanders, ia32-libs are depreciated, ubuntu is multiarch since 12.04
[17:23] <OerHeks> just add :i386 to the package.
[17:24] <ioria> charlie_sanders, i think you need multi-arch
[17:24] <charlie_sanders> http://pastebin.com/5mcnTmVd is is the error , something is really broken it seems
[17:24] <charlie_sanders> OerHeks, ^
[17:24] <blakwire> is there a way to convert a windows 8.1 vpn connection to an ubuntu vpn?
[17:24] <al2o3-cr> ioria: OerHeks just said ubuntu is multiarch since 12.04
[17:24] <OerHeks> charlie_sanders, did you update before installing?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> blakwire, ubuntu on a USB live media ?
[17:24] <charlie_sanders> yes :(
[17:25] <blakwire> BluesKaj: yes, why?
[17:25] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[17:25] <jKaideN> OerHeks, ok I've just opened a ticket to my server hoster. Meanwhile i'll be doing the "do-release-upgrade"
[17:25] <blakwire> BluesKaj: and it has presistence space enabled
[17:25] <BluesKaj> do you have the vpn script installed etc
[17:25] <blakwire> BluesKaj: i dunno what you talking about
[17:26] <BluesKaj> which vpn protocol , blakwire?
[17:26] <blakwire> in windows?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> on ubuntu
[17:26] <charlie_sanders> OerHeks, that page just talks about ia32-libs, which is what I want.  ioria how do I do multi-arch ?
[17:26] <blakwire> BluesKaj: don't know
[17:27] <blakwire> I tried pptp
[17:27] <blakwire> but did not connect
[17:27] <al2o3-cr> charlie_sanders: like OerHeks said with :i386 at the end of the package name
[17:27] <blakwire> I know it must have a pretty easy procedure, but I am stupidly missing it
[17:28] <ioria> charlie_sanders, what are you trying  to achieve ?
[17:28] <blakwire> BluesKaj: is that what you were asking me?
[17:29] <charlie_sanders> al2o3-cr, ioria, I'm trying to run android studio, which requires  lib32stdc++6 , but every combination of packages I put it comes back with broken dependencies
[17:29] <BluesKaj> blakwire, install pptp-linux?
[17:29] <Maendir> I was thinking to change in full OpenSUSE after trying it for 5 days on a secondary drive. Any opinions?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> Maendir, no polls please
[17:30] <blakwire> BluesKaj: can't actually connect to the internet with my  ubuntu  without a vpn
[17:30] <Maendir> BluesKaj, done :)
[17:30] <zen_> iptable, you in?
[17:31] <ioria> charlie_sanders, how are you installing it ?
[17:31] <gaandubuntu> help
[17:31] <charlie_sanders> sudo apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libgcc1:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libz1:i386 , this is the output http://pastebin.com/hWSn4XyC
[17:32] <BluesKaj> bla sorry i don't understand your setup then... you haven't told me enough about it to help you
[17:32] <BluesKaj> blakwire,^
[17:32] <charlie_sanders> it looks like it really doesnt want libc6 in both amd64 and i386 versions
[17:32] <ioria> charlie_sanders, no, i meant ... android studio
[17:33] <charlie_sanders> ioria, it's already installed, when I start the config tool it dies with "Unable to run mksdcard SDK tool"
[17:33] <ioria> charlie_sanders, how you installed  android studio ?
[17:34] <blakwire> is my ubuntu already prepackaged with pptp and pptp-setup packages? cause the university webpage says linux users should do "step 1 =yum install pptp pptp-setup" as the first step
[17:34] <charlie_sanders> ioria, by running the install script
[17:35] <blakwire> and then pptpsetup --create vpnconnection --server <IP_ADDRESS> --username *** --password
[17:36] <aeon-ltd> blakwire: well if you try installing does it tell you that you are reinstalling?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> blakwire, I asked you earlier which vpn client and server you're using
[17:36] <ioria> charlie_sanders, from here http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html ?
[17:36] <al2o3-cr> blakwire: sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn network-manager-pptp network-manager-vpnc and use network manager
[17:37] <charlie_sanders> ioria, yeah I think I got it, I already have lic6 in a 64 bit version, it won't install them both
[17:37] <BluesKaj> al2o3-cr, he's using pptp
[17:37] <al2o3-cr> BluesKaj: you can use pptp through network manager
[17:38] <BluesKaj> al2o3-cr, yeah , but openvpn isn't what he needs
[17:38] <al2o3-cr> then just sudo apt-get install network-manager-pptp
[17:39] <al2o3-cr> nice to have all though
[17:40] <al2o3-cr> then create a new vpn add your server username password
[17:40] <ioria> charlie_sanders, apt-cache policy lib32ncurses5 ?
[17:50] <gaandubuntu> Just installed ubuntu. Why is the brightness setting resetting to max on every bootup. How can I make it stick?
[17:51] <Gevox> Hello, i suddenly found my server rebooted and i need to know the reason of this reboot. I have ran last -d reboot
[17:51] <Gevox> and i got the following message reboot   system boot  <IP_ADDRESS>          Tue May 19 17:54 - 19:46  (01:51)
[17:51] <Gevox> can somebody help me discovering the reason behind this reboot?
[17:53] <jnxd> can somone help me? I am trying to install ubuntu 15.04 on my device, but it seems to be stuck on "creating ext4 FS for /boon on SCSI1..."
[17:53] <EriC^^> gaandubuntu: you have to add a startup app that sets it
[17:53] <daftykins> jnxd: /boot ? did you create a separate partition for /boot, or use encryption?
[17:53] <jnxd> the former
[17:54] <daftykins> jnxd: is Ubuntu to be the only OS?
[17:54] <jnxd> daftykins: I had it this way ubuntu 14.04
[17:54] <jnxd> daftykins: I plan to install fedora 22 when it comes
[17:54] <jnxd> for now it is the only OS
[17:55] <daftykins> i'd say a separate /boot is a waste of time these days
[17:55] <jnxd> is it? Please elaborate
[17:55] <daftykins> there's not much else to say really, don't make a separate /boot - it'll only become a maintenance chore
[17:56] <jnxd> hmm
[17:56] <daftykins> anyway as per why the installer is stopping there, can you give anymore detail as to what type of system this is?
[17:56] <jnxd> it's an HP laptop. pretty much mid-range
[17:57] <kokut> Hello, how can i change the location where ubuntu is getting the packages? instead of us.archive to use es.archive
[17:57] <daftykins> jnxd: booting 15.04 as EFI or legacy?
[17:57] <daftykins> kokut: by selecting a different mirror from system settings -> software and sources
[17:58] <kokut> daftykins: k lemme try
[17:59] <jnxd> I'm confused as to how it is booting. I installed 14.04 as legacy. THen kubuntu 15.04 and when the opton came, I asked to continue with UEFI. Now UG is giving the same option saying there's already a compatibility mode one installed
[17:59] <daftykins> jnxd: sounds messy, is there any data on there you're trying to keep?
[18:00] <jnxd> daftykins: yes, though its not in the same partitions that I am using
[18:00] <daftykins> jnxd: so you're preserving a /home ?
[18:00] <jnxd> I mean that I'm going to use as / and /home/
[18:01] <jnxd> no
[18:01] <daftykins> jnxd: sounds like you're going mixed mode legacy install -> installing on top with EFI - you're gonna have a bad time
[18:01] <daftykins> are you in a live session on this system right now?
[18:01] <jnxd> Help me undo everything and start over please
[18:01] <jnxd> yes, live session
[18:02] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:02] <daftykins> run the above please :>
[18:03] <jnxd> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:03] <daftykins> you have a package manager of some kind open
[18:03] <jnxd> this is SOME boss fight
[18:04] <daftykins> you'll need to close it
[18:04] <jnxd> the installer
[18:04] <jnxd> I cant close it
[18:04] <molimetal> buenas a todos!
[18:04] <daftykins> jnxd: reboot
[18:04] <daftykins> molimetal: #ubuntu-es
[18:04] <jnxd> daftykins: cya in a while
[18:04] <molimetal> os voy a hacer una pregunta, compañeros. Qué versión de MAME es la mejor para ubuntu studio?
[18:05] <daftykins> !es
[18:08] <reisio> subtle
[18:08] <Guest60172> i am running a live session and the USB drive is mounted at /cdrom, but only root can write to it. can i make my user have write access?
[18:09] <reisio> Guest60172: what for?
[18:09] <Guest60172> it's a big drive so i want to save files to it
[18:09] <Guest60172> and not in the casper-rw file
[18:09] <daftykins> that's not how you write to the flash drive
[18:10] <jnxd> daftykins: could you repaste the install commands?
[18:10] <reisio> Guest60172: well, ideally you make another partition to store things on
[18:10] <Guest60172> well my casper-rw is only 4 gb, so want so save movies to the whole fat 32 drive and read in windows
[18:10] <Guest60172> oh
[18:10] <reisio> if it's unpartitioned space you can do it from the live OS, probs
[18:11] <Guest60172> I understand that windows can only see the 1st partition on a removable drive
[18:11] <reisio> I don't know about that
[18:11] <reisio> but it's also not likely to matter
[18:11] <reisio> you can make the storage partition the first if you want, though
[18:11] <daftykins> jnxd: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:11] <Guest60172> ok
[18:12] <hzut> hi
[18:12] <daftykins> Guest60172: definitely wrong on that one
[18:12] <Guest60172> cause right now i have the whole 32 gb drive formatted as fat32 with a 4gb casper-rw file for linux
[18:12] <kokut> Hello, i'm trying to connect my desktop via wifi and its not resolving for some reason, i just notice in the router admin that its showing the same name for my desktop twice with 2 different network ips
[18:12] <reisio> Guest60172: uhuh...
[18:12] <reisio> make another partition for storage if you want
[18:12] <daftykins> kokut: yes one lease per OS
[18:12] <Guest60172> cool
[18:12] <kokut> daftykins: what?
[18:12] <reisio> some of the usb imaging tools will even do it for you if you tell it to
[18:13] <doo-doo> turd
[18:13] <hzut> Hi - Please, let me know a good successor for emule?
[18:13] <kokut> daftykins: it keeps showing 2 ips for my desktop man
[18:13] <daftykins> hzut: for obtaining what?
[18:13] <daftykins> kokut: gonna need more info than that to go on really
[18:13] <cyking> anyone using ubuntu mate 15.04?  what happened to Gvfs ? how can i located my samba mounts ?
[18:13] <jnxd> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11229473/
[18:14] <cyking> http://askubuntu.com/questions/620584/gvfs-folder-location-in-ubuntu-mate-15-04  < all i can find
[18:14] <daftykins> jnxd: ok, so do you need any data that's on this 1TB Hitachi right now or can you start from scratch?
[18:15] <jnxd> daftykins: I need the ones in 6 and 7
[18:15] <kokut> daftykins: i think ill just turn my router on and off because it keeps showing my desktop twice even after disconnecting the wifi/ethernet
[18:15] <daftykins> jnxd: ok you're going to need to boot 15.04 in legacy mode and install like that then, attempting EFI won't work
[18:15] <kokut> daftykins: well now it only shows it once
[18:16] <daftykins> kokut: ok
[18:16] <kokut> daftykins: but its not even connected
[18:16] <daftykins> kokut: i am not getting a support question from what you're saying :)
[18:17] <Happzz> trying to fsck /dev/sda, getting /dev/sda is in use. i umounted /dev/sda, /dev/sda1. still getting the is in use error.
[18:17] <Happzz> ideas?
[18:17] <Happzz> i've booted from a live cd.
[18:17] <daftykins> Happzz: type "mount" and check if it's in use or not
[18:17] <daftykins> also ensure your terminal is not on a mount point of any of the mounted partitions
[18:17] <jnxd> daftykins: Okay
[18:17] <Brayden5234> I am trying to install ubuntu on an external hard drive and when I choose the hard drive it says "No root file system is defined.
[18:17] <Brayden5234> Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[18:18] <jnxd> how do I do that?
[18:18] <daftykins> !efi | jnxd see here for the difference between legacy and EFI boot
[18:18] <daftykins> Brayden5234: yes you need to set up some partitions on that disk - is it blank right now? nothing on it you need to keep?
[18:19] <Brayden5234> Yeah it is formatted blank. What now?
[18:19] <daftykins> Brayden5234: the ubuntu installer has an option of 'use entire disk' or 'something else' - which did you pick?
[18:19] <hzut> Hi - Please, let me know a good successor for emule?
[18:19] <daftykins> hzut: as i already asked, what do you want it for?
[18:19] <Brayden5234> That is for the computers hard drive, that is not an option for an external hard drive
[18:20] <daftykins> Brayden5234: quit the installer, run it again and see if you get to the 'something else' option so you can partition manually.
[18:20] <OerHeks> hzut, emule provides piracy software and music/films, offtopic for #ubuntu.
[18:20] <Brayden5234> That is where I am at daftykins
[18:20] <daftykins> and for Freenode :)
[18:21] <daftykins> Brayden5234: so how big is this disk? do you want some space for ubuntu and some other space for storage that Windows can access too, or?
[18:21] <Brayden5234> No just 100% ubuntu. And it is 3TB
[18:22] <daftykins> ok because that's a lot of space
[18:22] <Brayden5234> Haha yeah it is
[18:22] <daftykins> Brayden5234: so the window should show /dev/sda and /dev/sdb yes?
[18:22] <daftykins> where sdb is the 3TB hopefully
[18:22] <Brayden5234> dev/sdd
[18:22] <daftykins> oh ok
[18:22] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: you need to make a gpt partition if you want 2+TB partitions
[18:23] <daftykins> so in that window you should be able to select to create new partitions?
[18:23] <Brayden5234> How do I do that?
[18:23] <Brayden5234> Yes I can daftykins
[18:23] <daftykins> or better yet a new partition table on the disk to start with
[18:23] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: open gparted > create new partition table, gpt or something along those lines
[18:23] <daftykins> which is what will offer the GPT format as EriC^^ suggests
[18:23] <Brayden5234> Yes it says new partition table
[18:23] <EriC^^> try to see if the installer can do that first as daftykins said
[18:24] <hzut> I want to say protocol P2P and no emule for piracy using, ok?
[18:24] <daftykins> hopefully it offers msdos + GPT
[18:24] <daftykins> hzut: sorry, still a forbidden topic. try a different IRC network
[18:24] <hzut> I am lookink for the successor of P2P proptocol and tools?
[18:25] <hzut> Thanks
[18:25] <hzut> Have a good day
[18:25] <KWhat_Work> wtf provides /etc/mysql ?
[18:25] <daftykins> mysql-server is a meta package which will install MySQL server 5
[18:28] <Happzz> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pJcdvCqo/1432060061.JPG
[18:28] <Happzz> that's after fsck from livecd.
[18:29] <daftykins> boot back into live
[18:29] <Happzz> and?
[18:29] <daftykins> and give me a "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[18:30] <Brayden5234> Ok on gpart I choose create new partition table and which should I choose?
[18:30] <Brayden5234> gpt?
[18:30] <daftykins> GPT yes
[18:30] <daftykins> did you boot ubuntu as EFI or not?
[18:30] <daftykins> !efi
[18:31] <daftykins> see there for the difference
[18:31] <Brayden5234> I am confused what?
[18:31] <daftykins> there are two modes of booting ubuntu installation media, legacy and EFI
[18:31] <daftykins> see the above link to say which one you did
[18:32] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: open a terminal and type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[18:32] <Brayden5234> alright one sec
[18:32] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: just tell us if it says it doesn't exist
[18:33] <Brayden5234> it says no such file or directory
[18:33] <EriC^^> ok, good
[18:33] <Happzz> daftykins sec
[18:33] <Brayden5234> alright
[18:33] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: if you need to boot it on another machine that has uefi enabled, you'll have to enable legacy mode/ccsm and then boot it
[18:33] <Brayden5234> No root file system is defined.
[18:33] <Brayden5234> Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[18:34] <Brayden5234> It is giving me that error when I try to install
[18:34] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: you have to make the root partition and a swap if you want
[18:34] <EriC^^> swap is up to you, mostly
[18:34] <Brayden5234> How?
[18:34] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to share files between two ubuntu computers connected to a router via wifi?
[18:34] <Brayden5234> How do I make the root partition?
[18:35] <Brayden5234> dropbox kokut
[18:35] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: create new partition > ext4 > mountpoint "/"
[18:35] <EriC^^> use all the space if you don't want a swap
[18:35] <k1l> kokut: use the samba share option
[18:35] <kokut> Brayden5234: nope
[18:35] <k1l> kokut: or use a usb stick :)
[18:35] <AvengerLives> kokut: sshfs also works
[18:35] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: also, at the bottom, set the bootloader to your usb's name
[18:36] <daftykins> kokut: scp
[18:36] <daftykins> though i suspect you want a GUI friendly way? :)
[18:36] <kokut> are you kidding that ubuntu doesnt have a nautilus option to use the network? i can browse windows computers easily with my ubuntu laptop
[18:36] <AvengerLives> kokut: you can also run a command like: nautilus ssh://<username>@<second_computer's_ip_address
[18:37] <kokut> but i want to use nautilus man
[18:37] <AvengerLives> that will do exactly what you want
[18:37] <mcphail> kokut: press ctrl-l in nautilus and you can type the url
[18:37] <kokut> ssh is much slower i have to type the names of the folder in the same exact way etc
[18:37] <AvengerLives> no
[18:37] <user0> how to install flash player for firefox and chromium-browser?
[18:37] <AvengerLives> nautilus ssh://<username>@<second_computer's_ip_address
[18:37] <Happzz> daftykins the dude im trying to help had to go. sorry for the bother. i'll be back with the info you asked later tonight.
[18:38] <daftykins> Happzz: oh so this was a middle man job, mmk - don't do that in future please :)
[18:38] <kokut> AvengerLives: and what do i put in username
[18:38] <AvengerLives> that gives you open access to the other system within the confines of that user's permissions
[18:38] <xAndreLopesx> hi ubuntu chat
[18:38] <scrope> hi
[18:38] <kokut> what do i put in the user man
[18:38] <AvengerLives> the user account that you use on the other machine
[18:39] <xAndreLopesx> im accessing an ubuntu server though ssh and when i try to execute a file, it says : command not found
[18:39] <daftykins> kokut: the username... :D
[18:39] <EriC^^> xAndreLopesx: which file?
[18:39] <daftykins> xAndreLopesx: a script?
[18:39] <xAndreLopesx> i have a file named : haar.exe
[18:39] <xAndreLopesx> so i cd to the folder.. and
[18:39] <xAndreLopesx> typed : haar.exe
[18:39] <EriC^^> =|
[18:39] <mcphail> xAndreLopesx: are you prepending the command with "./"?
[18:39] <AvengerLives> I use that command all the time without any speed issues btw
[18:39] <daftykins> that's a Windows executable. you can't run those directly on Linux.
[18:39] <xAndreLopesx> hm...
[18:40] <xAndreLopesx> i see
[18:40] <AvengerLives> you are only limited by your intranet bandwidth
[18:40] <daftykins> what is it?
[18:40] <daftykins> AvengerLives: network :P
[18:40] <daftykins> not intranet
[18:40] <xAndreLopesx> so i need to get a ubuntu executable
[18:40] <xAndreLopesx> right?
[18:40] <scrope> what are your change permission?
[18:40] <AvengerLives> you are correct
[18:40] <AvengerLives> sorry
[18:40] <EriC^^> xAndreLopesx: yeah, what does it do?
[18:41] <xAndreLopesx> opencv haartraining
[18:41] <kokut> AvengerLives: you don't have permission to access the requested location
[18:41] <user0> I just saw that I did update and the apt-get upgrade. then opened muon and there was a button highlghted "full upgrade" . I clicked and still some packages showed as upgradable. Why did apt-get upgrade didnt covered that?
[18:42] <kokut> daftykins: any tips?
[18:42] <daftykins> kokut: you're already receiving help
[18:42] <mcphail> xAndreLopesx: You cant just use "scriptname" as a command, anyway. By default, the current directory is not in your user's $PATH so the shell will not see the script in that directory. Instead, use "./scriptname"
[18:42] <scrope> maybe error try apt-get autoremove
[18:42] <kokut> daftykins: i was also receiving help from u m8
[18:42] <xAndreLopesx> ok
[18:42] <scrope> okey
[18:42] <daftykins> kokut: too many cooks spoil the broth
[18:43] <mcphail> user0: a normal "apt-get upgrade" will not upgrade packages which uninstall other packages as part of the process. For a full upgrade, run "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:44] <AvengerLives> kokut: on what I'm calling the second machine (the one to grab the files from), are they located in the home directory of the user for that system?
[18:44] <user0> mcphail,  thanks
[18:45] <kokut> i'm trying nautilus<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:45] <Brayden5234> I think it is stuck on creating ext4 file system
[18:45] <daftykins> Brayden5234: give it time
[18:45] <AvengerLives> kokut: in the event that they are in a different location, it is likely that the permissions of that location are not accessible to the user you are loggin in as
[18:45] <user0> how to install flash player for firefox and chromium-browser?
[18:46] <Brayden5234> Go to adobes website
[18:46] <Brayden5234> pretty easy
[18:46] <Brayden5234> it tells you how at the download page
[18:46] <kokut> AvengerLives: operation not supported :ssh
[18:46] <daftykins> Brayden5234: not correct
[18:46] <AvengerLives> the user on <IP_ADDRESS> must have proper access permissions for the directory as well as the files you wish to transfer
[18:46] <mcphail> user0: ubuntu provides a flashplayer installer script which you should use
[18:46] <AvengerLives> ok
[18:47] <AvengerLives> kokut: make sure openssh-server is installed on the <IP_ADDRESS> machine
[18:47] <AvengerLives> use apt-get
[18:47] <AvengerLives> best to have it on both so this will work both ways in the future
[18:47] <psycomp> Is this the best Linux distro for a normal PC to replace windows? Excluding the chromeOS that isn't a full-blown OS
[18:47] <psycomp> I guess
[18:47] <psycomp> Sorry I'm new
[18:48] <mcphail> user0: I can't remember the package name, but it is brought in if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:48] <Brayden5234> Nothing has happened. I think it froze
[18:48] <kokut> AvengerLives: package 'openssh-server' has no installation candidate
[18:48] <AvengerLives> psycomp: it's a matter of personal preference... Mint is another option
[18:48] <daftykins> psycomp: depends what you do
[18:49] <psycomp> daftykins: General computing. Like browsing, programming and games now and then. Which is best for me?
[18:49] <mcphail> psycomp: the beauty of Linux is you can try them all and choose what works best for you. Ubuntu is a pretty safe bet
[18:49] <AvengerLives> kokut: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:49] <daftykins> psycomp: what games do you play? some are available via Steam but not all
[18:49] <Brayden5234> in the more details of the installer it says: 'NULL' failed
[18:50] <AvengerLives> kokut: it's in the ubuntu repos for sure
[18:50] <psycomp> daftykins: ah don't worry. Nothing very demanding, I saw these games are already available for Linux
[18:50] <psycomp> mcphail: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, MATE, which one is appropriate?
[18:51] <mcphail> psycomp: I prefer default Ubuntu. You can install one and switch to the others very easily
[18:51] <AvengerLives> psycomp: I concur
[18:52] <daftykins> !pm
[18:52] <psycomp> My machine is fairly decent, so should run them all according to the system requirements, so hardware specs aren't a problem
[18:52] <Brayden5234> I would say Ubuntu is the best IMOP
[18:53] <mcphail> psycomp: When you switch to Linux you have the freedom to try them all. Most people spend a few eeks switching between distros and desktops to see what suits them. The choice can be overwhelming
[18:54] <psycomp> mcphail: To be honest I wouldn't have the time to spend too much time worrying about that, that's why I thought Ubuntu would be a safe bet..
[18:54] <mcphail> psycomp: standard Ubuntu has become the Linux benchmark. It is an excellent choice
[18:54] <Brayden5234> Ubuntu looks the sexiest... Also has more support.
[18:55] <psycomp> Brayden5234: Yes support was one of the primary reasons. There is a great amount of info for ubuntu compared to other distros...
[18:55] <dubey> Has anyone successfully implemented Two factor authentication on ubuntu Gnome ?
[18:55] <Brayden5234> Yeah exactly.
[18:55] <psycomp> mcphail: Does Ubuntu work well with Android for transferring files?
[18:55] <dubey> I am following http://labs.packetverify.com/guides/using-google-two-factor-authentication-for-ubuntu-login/
[18:55] <mcphail> psycomp: yes
[18:56] <dubey> not working for me
[18:56] <Brayden5234> Yes it does
[18:56] <Brayden5234> Android phones works great with Ubuntu
[18:56] <psycomp> Brayden5234: Does Ubuntu use GNOME?
[18:56] <mcphail> psycomp: also makes a good platform for developing Android apps, if you like programming
[18:56] <dubey> After doing all the steps when i logout/reboot the system, it doesn't even recognize my correct password
[18:57] <Brayden5234> Ubuntu is light wieght as well
[18:57] <Brayden5234> weight
[18:57] <mcphail> psycomp: GNOME is an option, but by default Ubuntu uses Unity
[18:57] <psycomp> mcphail: That's precisely one of the uses I would like to use Ubuntu for :)
[18:58] <pbx> my mouse pointer disappeared on wake.  how might i get it back short of rebooting?
[18:58] <psycomp> Can Ubuntu be customized like windows? the desktop and that stuff...
[18:58] <mcphail> psycomp: perfect
[18:58] <reisio> pbx: replug it in?
[18:58] <reisio> pbx: and then look into disabling usb power saving
[18:58] <pbx> reisio, laptop, trackpad.  14.04 unity FWIW
[18:58] <daftykins> pbx: laptop? try ctrl+alt+F1 then alt+F7 to switch back
[18:58] <mcphail> psycomp: of course. You have limitless choice, even changing the whole desktop manager if you wish
[18:59] <pbx> daftykins, mode switch did it. nice. thanks
[18:59] <reisio> hahahah
[18:59] <reisio> best hack ever would be pm-utils chvt 1 and back to 7
[18:59] <mcphail> psycomp: make a live USB stick and give it a try. If you like it, install
[18:59] <reisio> lawl
[18:59] <psycomp> mcphail: And hardware support is provided out of the box right?
[18:59] <blorg> psycomp : Ubuntu is 200 times more customizable than anything you tired before :P
[19:00] <Brayden5234> Ubuntu is by far one of the most customizable OS's there is.
[19:00] <mcphail> psycomp: for most things, yes. There are still some sticky patches. That's why it is worth trying a live USB first
[19:00] <Brayden5234> I mean you can completely change the look and feel of Ubuntu if your wish
[19:00] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: i'll think you'll find that is arch
[19:00] <psycomp> Do most people here use Unity?
[19:00] <Brayden5234> Haha yeah
[19:01] <reisio> psycomp: I'd wager so, given it's default
[19:01] <mcphail> psycomp: you may need to install some things like proprietary graphics drivers, but Ubuntu tries to make that easy for you
[19:01] <blorg> nope i'm gnome :)
[19:01] <psycomp> blorg: Is there much difference between Unity and GNOME?
[19:01] <blorg> much
[19:01] <daftykins> psycomp: i don't even use ubuntu desktop :P
[19:01] <reisio> psycomp: "Unity" is mostly GNOME
[19:02] <reisio> the difference is in the very top level of the UI
[19:02] <reisio> if you want your own feel for the differences, try both
[19:02] <mcphail> psycomp: it is easy to install unity, gnome, KDE and whatever else. You just pick between them at login
[19:02] <blorg> yeah, try them.
[19:02] <mcphail> psycomp: if you choose Ubuntu with Unity, you don't need to reinstall to switch to GNOME
[19:03] <Brayden5234> There are also many themes for Ubuntu... Unity is very customizable though
[19:03] <psycomp> Ok everyone. I'll download and try the default Ubuntu for now, see how it fares and if I can get used to it ;)
[19:03] <mcphail> psycomp: enjoy, and ask here if you run into problems
[19:03] <psycomp> Brayden5234: I read that Unity was known for not being so customizable as others...
[19:03] <psycomp> like KDE or xfce
[19:03] <Guest93011> Hello guys, I have a problem with printing I can't print more than one docoument in a row, after I print one I have to close and open the printer for it to continue printing. My printer is HP Deskjet D4200 series
[19:03] <Brayden5234> KDE is the best for themes
[19:04] <mcphail> psycomp: KDE is prob the most customisable, but it take customisation to the extreme. Too much for me
[19:04] <Brayden5234> The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI8 (0,0,0) (sdd) failed.
[19:04] <Brayden5234> I got that error trying to install ubuntu to an external hard drive
[19:05] <Brayden5234> What to do?
[19:05] <kokut> i'm trying to access with nautilus to my other computer in the network that's also running ubuntu but i'm having a lil hard time with ssh, anyone knows the right way to call nautilus with ssh for networks browsing with root privileges?
[19:05] <psycomp> I see. Thanks everyone for your enlightening support. I will create the liveUSB now
[19:06] <Brayden5234> Guys any idea on what I said above?
[19:06] <zorak8> hi, i just installed an ubuntu server in an old laptop to use over ssh
[19:06] <daftykins> Brayden5234: use gparted instead to make them
[19:06] <mcphail> Brayden5234: does your external HDD have enough power to spin correctly? Do you need external power?
[19:06] <daftykins> zorak8: ok...?
[19:06] <zorak8> but when i close the screen of the laptop i lost the ssh conection
[19:06] <zorak8> until i open the laptop again
[19:06] <daftykins> zorak8: mm, don't do that :)
[19:07] <daftykins> root: it's unsafe to come on here as root!
[19:07] <Brayden5234> Yeah the external hard drive is a 3tb hard drive, it uses external power
[19:07] <daftykins> Guest5934: ^
[19:07] <Brayden5234> Alright I will use gparted instead of the installation one.
[19:08] <zorak8> how can i configure the power options to only turn off the screen when is closed?
[19:08] <AvengerLives> kokut: you didn't say root privs before. If you want to login as root you will need to edit your ssh config.  Never a good idea btw.  just grant your primary user the proper permissions and go from there
[19:08] <daftykins> Happzz: just a heads up, that friend of yours hard disk looked faulty - so don't let them attempt any further fsck operations as it'll likely make it worse! :)
[19:08] <blorg> brayden what are you trying to do?
[19:09] <Brayden5234> Install ubuntu on an external hard drive
[19:09] <blakwire> hi folks I am experiencing the worst level of pain in the ass and the head and neck, I am trying to install Ubuntu 14 on my virtualbox inside a windows 8.1 host, I get this error message Fast TSC Calibration Failed
[19:09] <blakwire> what should I do?
[19:09] <daftykins> blakwire: power off the VM and check 3D acceleration is enabled under graphics
[19:09] <blakwire> ok, w8
[19:09] <daftykins> !u
[19:10] <blakwire> daftykins: no it is not
[19:10] <daftykins> it's a polite request to not type like that :)
[19:10] <al2o3-cr> blakwire: yes it is
[19:10] <Brayden5234> I am getting errors with my hard drive now
[19:10] <blakwire> daftykins: no it is not enabled under graphics
[19:10] <daftykins> blakwire: oh, then enable it...
[19:11] <doo-doo> feces
[19:11] <blakwire> it is turned off
[19:11] <daftykins> greyed out? you need to power off the VM first.
[19:11] <Brayden5234> It says output/input error
[19:11] <daftykins> !ops | doo-doo inappropriate spamming
[19:11] <blakwire> ok, let me see how it goes on, I got it enabled
[19:11] <Brayden5234> It is saying on my hard drive /dev/sdd: unrecognised disk label
[19:11] <Brayden5234> What to do?
[19:12] <daftykins> what reported that?
[19:12] <compdoc> Brayden5234, install gparted and create one
[19:12] <compdoc> Brayden5234, is there data on the drive?
[19:13] <blorg> brayden did you wipe your drive first? Gparted is ggod for that... Use a live USB, unmount/delete/reformat any partition not wanted.
[19:13] <compdoc> or is this a new drive?
[19:13] <Brayden5234> Input/output error during read on /dev/sdd getting this when I try to create a partition tabel
[19:13] <daftykins> Brayden5234: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | tail | pastebinit
[19:14] <blakwire> daftykins : now 3d is enabled but the installation would not go on, just like it was before
[19:14] <daftykins> blakwire: how did you download? check the ISO isn't corrupted
[19:14] <blakwire> daftykins : you there?
[19:14] <daftykins> !md5 | blakwire
[19:14] <blakwire> daftykins
[19:14] <daftykins> blakwire: yes you gave me 5 seconds to respond.
[19:14] <daftykins> blakwire: show some patience.
[19:15] <Brayden5234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11230368/
[19:15] <blakwire> daftykins : I did check it, it works just fine if the machine boot from the DVD.
[19:15] <daftykins> Brayden5234: something is up with your disk.
[19:15] <Brayden5234> What does that mean haha
[19:15] <daftykins> blakwire: check what? you are not being clear
[19:15] <Brayden5234> This is a brand new external hard drive
[19:16] <blakwire> daftykins : the md5sum
[19:16] <blakwire> daftykins : the iso is not currpt
[19:16] <Brayden5234> I have only transfered a few movies on it before. No heavy use.
[19:16] <mcphail> Brayden5234: you are _sure_ it is getting power to spin?
[19:16] <zorak8> how can i configure the power options to only turn off the screen when is closed?
[19:16] <zorak8> with the cli
[19:16] <Brayden5234> Yeah the hard drive is spinning
[19:16] <daftykins> blakwire: so are you installing from a DVD, or the mounted ISO?
[19:17] <blakwire> daftykins : I am installing from a mounted iso, I mean I also burned the iso file on an actuall dvd and it works fine
[19:17] <blakwire> so the iso is fine
[19:17] <ioria> Brayden5234, i don't know your issue, but when i did it turned out that i could only install on 1 primary partition disk, and not a partitioned one. don't know why
[19:17] <blakwire> is there a way to help with this issue?
[19:18] <mcphail> Brayden5234: there is spinning and there is spinning properly. Check/replace both wires (USB and power)
[19:18] <daftykins> blakwire: alright. delete and recreate your VM
[19:18] <blakwire> daftykins : did that a million times
[19:18] <blakwire> already
[19:18] <daftykins> a million and one time lucky then
[19:19] <blakwire> daftykins : I am kind of sensing you are trying to mock me in someway... is that true?
[19:19] <daftykins> no it's called light hearted humour, it's used to cope with the tough tasks of sysadmins lives day to day
[19:20] <blakwire> oh it is painful and distressing while I am trying to solve an actual issue
[19:20] <Adasser> Yeah, not sure though...
[19:21] <daftykins> blakwire: i think that's a bit of a dramatisation. further help can be had in #vbox
[19:21] <blakwire> it does not feel like light hearted humor over here, btw I didn't know we could horse around, and tell jokes on this channel... shall I start?
[19:21] <ioria> kokut you have to be sure that openssh-server is installed on your other machines
[19:21] <daftykins> blakwire: goodbye then
[19:21] <blakwire> :) ok...
[19:21] <blakwire> you take care
[19:22] <kokut> ioria: i just managed to do it but it was extremely slow so i'm going to use a usb stick
[19:22] <ioria> Brayden5234, then do 'Connect to server'
[19:22] <ioria> Brayden5234, it's slow ?
[19:22] <ioria> sorry
[19:22] <ioria> kokut it's slow ?
[19:22] <zorak8> how can i configure the power options to only turn off the screen when is closed with the cli?
[19:23] <kokut> ioria: yea, now i'm compressing the files to put them in the pendrive but it's stuck in the middle of the operation like something went wrong... could it have a permissions issue?
[19:24] <mcphail> zorak8: not sure the CLI does that by default, but I might be wrong. Is your BIOS sending a message to suspend when the lid is closed?
[19:24] <ioria> kokut ssh is more  practicable
[19:24] <Brayden5234> I had the external hard drive plugged into an extension cord so it is working now plugged into the wall lol.
[19:24] <ioria> kokut samba is better
[19:25] <mcphail> Brayden5234: thought so!
[19:25] <Brayden5234> Haha how did you know?!
[19:25] <mcphail> Brayden5234: many years of problems with external USB drives. Power is always the problem
[19:26] <NGuerrero> * NGuerrero sa
[19:26] <NGuerrero> wrong chat
[19:26] <ioria> mcphail, true, i lost one week to understand that i needed a double usb cable
[19:26] <Brayden5234> Haha
[19:26] <Guest93011> Though when I run things like hp-check It continues??
[19:27] <mcphail> Yes - the problem is the controller doesn't need much power and appears to work correctly. But when the disk needs to spin for a while it all goes horribly wrong
[19:27] <Brayden5234> Damn managed to format it partition it as ext4 and now it is saying Input/output error during read on /dev/sdd
[19:28] <ioria> Brayden5234, but it's related to i/o error not with the failed installation, i'm afraid
[19:28] <Brayden5234> What does that mean?
[19:28] <Ben64> Brayden5234: usually a bad drive
[19:28] <mcphail> Brayden5234: your probably still needing power. Is your USB connection going through a powered hub?
[19:28] <Brayden5234> What?! Bad drive?
[19:29] <Brayden5234> No the hard drive is plugged into the desktop directly
[19:29] <Ben64> thats usually what io error means
[19:29] <ioria> Brayden5234, if i may, save what you have on that drive and wipe it
[19:29] <Brayden5234> I want to wipe it. Nothing is on it
[19:30] <ioria> Brayden5234, movies ?
[19:30] <Brayden5234> Nope nothing
[19:30] <AvengerLives> Brayden5234: Go for it then.  Also once you have conduct a SMART sacn to determine the health
[19:30] <Brayden5234> I already formatted it
[19:30] <mcphail> Brayden5234: in my experice it boils down to 3 things (in this order): 1) bad power, 2) bad cables, 3) bad disk
[19:30] <ioria> Brayden5234,  sudo parted -l
[19:32] <Brayden5234> Model: ATA ST3250410AS (scsi)
[19:32] <Brayden5234> Disk /dev/sda: 250GB
[19:32] <Brayden5234> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[19:32] <Brayden5234> Partition Table: msdos
[19:32] <Brayden5234> Disk Flags:
[19:33] <Brayden5234> Whoa I am so sorry
[19:33] <jnxd> daftykins: Okay, legacy boot also doesn't seem to work
[19:34] <blorg> brayden5234 what is your problem? If you hve any.
[19:34] <novelty> Hi. im fairly new to ubuntu and linux and am trying to install digikam on 14.04 LTS server. This question may be more general than to just this application... I managed to install the package on the command line. Do I need to install a GUI on ubuntu for it to run or does the install integrate the necessary parts required to operate?
[19:34] <Brayden5234> I did not mean for that to happen.. I thought it would put it in a paragraph
[19:34] <Brayden5234> http://pastebin.com/0hRJPdhk
[19:35] <OerHeks> novelty, yes, you need a gui.
[19:35] <Brayden5234> What does that mean, thats what terminal said when I typed that sudo parted -l
[19:35] <kokut> for some reason i'm randomly losing internet access in my desktop connected via usb stick en tho it's connected to the network, is there anything i can try?
[19:36] <ioria> Brayden5234,  it's sdd  your external ?
[19:36] <novelty> thanks OerHekx. I installed LXDE-CORE this morning. but haven't had a chance to experiment much since then. Will that suffice or do specific programs need components from specific GUI?
[19:36] <Brayden5234> Yes sdd is external
[19:37] <ioria> Brayden5234,  and you cannot wipe it from live ?
[19:37] <daftykins> Brayden5234: so again, fire up gparted and partition that disk as GPT and create some partitions :)
[19:37] <OerHeks> novelty, that might work yes
[19:38] <Brayden5234> Gparted isnt showing the hard drive anymore
[19:38] <daftykins> reboot
[19:38] <Brayden5234> It basically is telling me it isnt plugged in
[19:39] <jaapio> hi, does somebody here know any package that supports the asus transformer series?
[19:39] <blakwire> folks I need to change the boot parameters of the live DVD boot loader to something like this: "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rd.luks=0 KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet clocksource=acpi_pm" how should I do that ?
[19:39] <ioria> Brayden5234,  it's a dock, the usb cable is single or double ? what ?
[19:39] <jnxd> daftykins: I'm now backing up the contents of the HDD. Better start from scratch. Instructions?
[19:40] <le_compere_toura> HI
[19:40] <le_compere_toura> Please Help me
[19:40] <Brayden5234> Its a usb 3.0 and has a weird connection port
[19:40] <blakwire> jnxd : I would probably not want to listen to daftykins, he is all about lightening the heart and all
[19:41] <le_compere_toura> I am looking for a successor of P2P protocol and amule tool Please?
[19:41] <daftykins> jnxd: after backup? "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" then run install when booting EFI
[19:41] <daftykins> le_compere_toura: changing your name will not help, your topic is still not welcome here. please stop.
[19:41] <jaapio> I'm looking for a driver that supports the screen-brightness buttons on my keyboard
[19:41] <le_compere_toura> ok
[19:42] <kokut> for some reason i'm getting randomly disconnected form the internet in my desktop connected via usb dongle, is there anything i can try?
[19:42] <OerHeks> hzut, le_compere_toura please NOT AGAIN, emule provides piracy software and music/films, offtopic for #ubuntu.
[19:42] <novelty> OerHeks I think I eventually would like to try and use the individual program from an offsite machine running OS X via ssh forwarding and X11 without installing it. From what I've read, this sounds feasible. Is this possible/the best method to do this?
[19:43] <OerHeks> novelty, ssh -X user@<ip> -p Mypassword
[19:45] <ioria> Brayden5234,  can you change port ?
[19:49] <blakwire> can someone give a list of all the options available for "clocksource=" option of the bootloader ??
[19:52] <jose__> ?
[19:53] <OerHeks> blakwire, i know 2 of them, clocksource hpet or acpi_pm
[19:53] <ruviaro>
[19:53] <novelty> OerHeks, cool. That's what I read. Thanks for confirming. Now for a really basic questions... do I need a display manager such as gdm or kdm to run LXDE?
[19:54] <OerHeks> novelty, gdm and kdm are old, current is lightdm
[19:55] <novelty> OerHeks, good to know. I will definitely need this to run everything, including the X11 interface offsite?
[19:56] <OerHeks> novelty, if you want to run digikam, i guess so
[19:57] <novelty> OerHeks, I'll give that a try. thanks
[19:58] <b4tm4n> normally, i use uid and gid options in fstab to auto mount a file system. however, ext4 does not support this.  What is the best way to provide a user with permission?
[19:59] <daftykins> b4tm4n: set them on the file system
[19:59] <b4tm4n> daftykins, how do you do that?
[19:59] <daftykins> or just mount as "auto,user" options
[19:59] <daftykins> sudo chown user: /path/on/mounted/ext4/
[20:00] <b4tm4n> daftykins, oh, so just chown after the mount?
[20:00] <daftykins> yip
[20:01] <b4tm4n> daftykins, the mount options are confusing to me so i've just been using defaults.  if i use the "user" option that implies noexec.  is defaults ok?
[20:01] <jaapio> I found that some function keys on my keyboard don't work. they are not reported xev?
[20:02] <daftykins> b4tm4n: see how you get on. things can be changed
[20:02] <daftykins> gotta run, back later
[20:05] <jnxd> daftykins: you had mentioned a way to start from scratch. Can you elaborate on that? That seems to be the only option available to me.
[20:07] <zzxc> How does one disable vi mode for terminal
[20:10] <zeeb> why has the mouse sensitivity slider never worked on ubuntu?
[20:10] <zeeb> so insane
[20:12] <zzxc> figured it out to disable set -o vi you just have to do set +o vi
[20:12] <johnjohn101> how?
[20:15] <zeeb> mouse control in ubuntu is too horrible to use...back to windows
[20:15] <zeeb> sucks that the settings are half broken as well
[20:16] <Dumle29> Hey there. I want to use my media keys to controll an extension in chrome. This works just fine in windows, but ubunto (gnome) seems to catch it before chrome gets it. Any way to allow me to use this key for other programs than the ones gnome recognize as media players?
[20:17] <docmur> My server just rebooted and now when we try to boot we get a "General Filesystem Error enter maintance mode",  when w do that we can see the / and it's fine.  We can run a fsck and it's fine.  I use a GPT parition table, and I have 1MB at the front for Grub, then 4TB for /, what should I check, becaue I can't find reason this should happen, going to older releases doesn't fix anything.
[20:23] <VlanX> Hello guys... Anyone knows how to fix the grub of ubuntu 14.04 after I accidently inserted a FreeBSD disk at the startup? Now ubuntu wont boot up by any mean....
[20:24] <EriC^^> VlanX: what do you mean by inserted a freebsd disk at the startup?
[20:28] <tato> hi
[20:29] <tato> im a new user
[20:29] <VlanX> EriC^^ it means that it was already inside the dvd reader when ive swapped on the machine. Of course ubuntu 14.04 is still on the ssd but i probably have messed up the grub i guess
[20:29] <niklas_e> I am helping a friend who has problem with ubuntu. It is some problem updateing.
[20:30] <EriC^^> VlanX: no, just remove it from the dvd, or set the dvd's boot priority to be lower
[20:30] <EriC^^> niklas_e: what's the problem?
[20:30] <DexterF> hi. if I copy firmware to /lib/firmware, will it stay or would any upgrades overwrite/delete them, say kernel upgrades or the like?
[20:32] <VlanX> Eric^^ unfortunately the dvd is already out. It must have wrote stuff to the mbr or something like that. Is there a guide on how to recover it?
[20:33] <EriC^^> VlanX: do you have an ubuntu live usb?
[20:33] <niklas_e> it says a lot  of "failed to fetch http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/ubuntu&ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/source  Sources 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[20:33] <niklas_e> and a lot of simmular
[20:33] <EriC^^> niklas_e: which ubuntu version is he using?
[20:33] <EriC^^> 13.04?
[20:33] <niklas_e> 13.10
[20:33] <OerHeks> !saucy
[20:34] <EriC^^> ok, it's unsupported, he should upgrade
[20:34] <Pici> you have a & where a / should be. also ^
[20:34] <VlanX> Eric^^ no but i have the ubuntu dvd
[20:34] <niklas_e> is lts 13.10
[20:34] <EriC^^> VlanX: ok, boot it
[20:34] <k1l> niklas_e: no
[20:34] <k1l> niklas_e: 12.04, 14.04 (and 16.04 will be) lts
[20:35] <k1l> niklas_e: 13.10 sources are shutdown. you need to change them to upgrade to 14.04. see the bots message:
[20:35] <k1l> !eolupgrades | niklas_e
[20:35] <Asmodee> what would you think if someone was telling he would need 10 hours to install a ubuntu server on a nas ?
[20:35] <VlanX> Eric^^ I belive i will need to type smth on the console right?
[20:36] <yuciyuar> hi. is it ok using php 5.5 on ubuntu 12.04?
[20:36] <EriC^^> VlanX: yeah
[20:36] <EriC^^> VlanX: after it boots
[20:36] <niklas_e> Thanks.
[20:37] <dina_> OK, I'll ask it here: I try to make my old Lexmark Z815 work on Xubuntu, but cannot find the CUPS files on the internet. Does anyone have them?
[20:37] <VlanX> Eric^^ I had to leave my parents house where this pc is so I will be able to do this only tomorrow. Could you please give me a hint on what thus command is or how to look for it?
[20:38] <Garheade> yuciyuar: I don't see a reason why not.
[20:38] <Garheade> yuciyuar: see here for help installing | http://askubuntu.com/questions/109404/how-do-i-install-latest-php-in-supported-ubuntu-versions-like-5-4-x-in-ubuntu-1/109544#109544
[20:38] <niklas_e> Thanks ;)
[20:38] <niklas_e> That explained a lot
[20:39] <EriC^^> VlanX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[20:39] <EriC^^> VlanX: follow the guide from step 6 probably, sudo fdisk -l or sudo parted -l ....
[20:40] <VlanX> Thanks so much EriC^^ means a lot
[20:40] <EriC^^> VlanX: if you're using uefi you need to mount the fat32 efi partition to /mnt/boot/efi before chrooting
[20:40] <EriC^^> VlanX: no problem
[20:41] <yuciyuar> sudo apt-get upgrade, upgrades distro or repo?
[20:42] <k1l> yuciyuar: neither
[20:42] <yuciyuar> so?
[20:42] <EriC^^> yuciyuar: it upgrades the packages that are installed
[20:42] <k1l> yuciyuar: on ubuntu it just upgrades packages
[20:42] <EriC^^> yuciyuar: without the kernel, and some others maybe
[20:42] <bazhang> yuciyuar, perhaps you meant dist-upgrade
[20:42] <yuciyuar> i mean if it will upgrade from 12.04 to 12.04.x its bad for me
[20:43] <k1l> yuciyuar: why is it bad?
[20:43] <yuciyuar> my ati card driver, supporting up to 12.04.1
[20:43] <k1l> yuciyuar: 12.04.2 is "just" a pointrelease. think of it like a servicepack from windows. its a summarized updates state.
[20:44] <k1l> yuciyuar: why exactly? because of the kernel? you can stick to the main kernel version it was shipped with
[20:44] <yuciyuar> k1l, yes, kernel i guess
[20:45] <yuciyuar> im new to linux, and dunno settings deeply
[20:46] <k1l> yuciyuar: to install updates you need to run the apt-get update commmand to get the updated package list from the servers. but the apt-get upgrade program will update the packages on your system then. but it will not change the kernel version
[20:46] <DexterF> yuciyuar: what ati card is that? (by the way, technically should be an AMD card unless it is really, really old)
[20:47] <Asmodee> my ati card is ati and is only 8 years
[20:47] <yuciyuar> k1l, i tried, and it updated to 12.04 to 12.04.5 with upgrade
[20:48] <k1l> yuciyuar: yes. that is correct.
[20:48] <k1l> yuciyuar: so does the card stil work?
[20:48] <yuciyuar> DexterF, ati mobility radeon hd4570
[20:48] <yuciyuar> it works with 12.04
[20:49] <DexterF> should be perfectly supported by the open drivers in any recent or semi-recent linux.
[20:49] <k1l> yuciyuar: you said you updated your 12.04 which made it 12.04.5 which is actually as intended
[20:49] <leonardo__> hello
[20:50] <yuciyuar> DexterF, open source drivers work well, but i cant tweak such as contrast settings
[20:50] <yuciyuar> and its really necessary for my lcd to reduce contrast
[20:51] <neorpheus> hello there, anyone know  where i might find some info about relocating programs from the package manager to another partition/hdd? im not entirly sure what im looking for hence my google foo is failing
[20:51] <DexterF> yuciyuar: and in .5 the binary ati/amd driver does not support that chip anymore?
[20:51] <yuciyuar> i can only tweak contrast with amdccc
[20:51] <k1l> yuciyuar: so does that card work after you upgraded the 12.04 install: yes or no?
[20:51] <yuciyuar> DexterF, yes, up to 12.04.1
[20:52] <DexterF> yuciyuar: xcalib --contrast [percentage] -- alter
[20:53] <DexterF> absolutely can be done, might not be as gui-click-slider as amdccc, given
[20:53] <k1l> yuciyuar: so did you try it?
[20:53] <DexterF> welcome to the console :)
[20:53] <yuciyuar> k1l, try what
[20:53] <k1l> yuciyuar: you said you updated your 12.04 install. is that right?
[20:54] <k1l> (so it became a 12.04.5, which is intended)
[20:54] <yuciyuar> yeap  i did
[20:54] <k1l> so you actually have a 12.04.5 now?
[20:54] <yuciyuar> but i format and install again to 12.04
[20:54] <k1l> what is "lsb_release -d" and "uname -a" then?
[20:55] <guest2121212> hey daftykins^, you here?
[20:55] <neorpheus> i guess im asking if there is some way to set up a /usr /bin /etc and what not on /dev/sda2 instead of the default locations on /dev/sda1 which ubuntu created during install
[20:55] <guest2121212> i left my laptop sitting overnight and when i just checked it, it seems to have finished installing the desktop, but still sitting at the command line thing where i typed the commands to install the desktop last night
[20:55] <yuciyuar> k1l, Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[20:55] <guest2121212> is it safe to reboot the system or should i put in another command?
[20:55] <k1l> yuciyuar: you cant stay on 12.04 without running updates. actually your system will have security issues that a 9 year old can use.
[20:56] <k1l> yuciyuar: so what was the issue on 12.04.5?
[20:56] <k1l> yuciyuar: did it change the kernel?
[20:57] <guest2121212> EriC^^: ^ are you here as well? or Bashing-om ^ ?
[20:57] <EriC^^> guest2121212: what's up?
[20:58] <guest2121212> i think the desktop finished installign (its me again), im sitting back at that command line area where i had input the command previously, i just want to make sure i can reboot and dont have to input any other commands first
[20:58] <k1l> yuciyuar: i still try to get to know what the issue is. besides "amd says only up to 12.04.1" because that is not really a technical reason. the .1 , .2 ,.3 .... releases are just servicepacks states. they only have a new kernel if you make a clean install with them or manually change the kernel
[20:58] <DexterF> will ubuntu on a fresh install detect SSD by itself and apply trim@boot time, noatime n fstab and such itself?
[20:59] <yuciyuar> k1ll, i'll give link
[20:59] <k1l> DexterF: iirc it will make a cron trim thingy once a week. yes
[20:59] <bekks> DexterF: Trim will be applied, noatime will not be applied.
[21:00] <EriC^^> guest2121212: yeah you should be able to reboot
[21:00] <k1l> yuciyuar: i dont mind what amd/ati says. i want to hear what it was when you tested the upgrade (which is just an update actually).
[21:01] <guest2121212> ok, just like, turning the thing off and on with the power button, right? no need to reboot via command?
[21:01] <EriC^^> guest2121212: no, don't do that
[21:01] <b00b00> hello
[21:01] <Bashing-om> guest2121212: I just arrived, playing catchup .. OK, booting to a terminal, at the terminal what results ' sudo service lightdm start ' ?
[21:02] <EriC^^> guest2121212: always reboot using the menu or sudo reboot
[21:02] <guest2121212> oh man
[21:02] <guest2121212> that explaisn so much
[21:02] <guest2121212> ok so i should just go hit sudo reset on it now right?
[21:02] <EriC^^> sudo reboot, it won't harm, let it boot into the new kernel
[21:03] <EriC^^> you did type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as daftykins suggested, right?
[21:03] <yuciyuar> k1l, i used update manager, and click update as i remember
[21:03] <b00b00> i am trying to create a script to install nagios as auto install, how can i do it so nagios will receive postfix, admin pass and so on needed details when installing from within the script? thanks
[21:03] <Bashing-om> guest2121212: Will not hurt to 'sudo shutdown -r now ' and see what results . A hard reboot from button is a bad bad thing ! as it leaves files open and liable to file system corruption .
[21:04] <guest2121212> ok, will do
[21:04] <yuciyuar>  even i dont remember i used upgrade
[21:04] <Pathfinder> b00b00: Lol...wanted to ask the exact same thing
[21:04] <b00b00> Pathfinder: good, lets create a channel dedicated for that :)
[21:04] <k1l> yuciyuar: like i explained. that apt-get upgrade command is actually doing an update. and you need to do that to get security updates.
[21:05] <k1l> yuciyuar: so i still dont know why you dont want to run that updates besides someone saying its only supported up to 12.04.1. which technically is wrong without any further reason
[21:05] <guest2121212> haha, so
[21:05] <guest2121212> remember that black screen with the blinking cursor? its back
[21:06] <EriC^^> guest2121212: boot using nomodeset
[21:06] <yuciyuar> k1l, the reason is that. nothing more; Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4
[21:06] <k1l> yuciyuar: see this picture: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A12.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support that are the available kernel versions. but you dont need to upgrade to 3.13. you still can run with 3.2
[21:07] <k1l> yuciyuar: see above.
[21:07] <guest2121212> i'll try to, like i said last night, the black screen shows up whenever i turn the thing on, im trying to maybe get to grub by a boot device
[21:07] <guest2121212> what was the command again
[21:07] <EriC^^> hold shift to get grub
[21:07] <wafflejock> guest2121212, tap shift to see the grub boot menu if you aren't already getting to it, e to edit, add nomodeset where you see quiet or nosplash, x to boot
[21:08] <EriC^^> press e, add nomodeset
[21:08] <guest2121212> ok so the only boot option i can get is the usb
[21:08] <guest2121212> which
[21:08] <guest2121212> wait a minute
[21:08] <yuciyuar> k1l, u're right, if i can disable updating kernel and xorg properly, i will try
[21:08] <guest2121212> I'M AT MY DESKTOP
[21:09] <Pathfinder> b00b00: Haha..cool..lol..what would the name even be ... :o !!!
[21:09] <guest2121212> i just have to boot from usb for some reason
[21:10] <guest2121212> i cant believe its finally fixed
[21:10] <k1l> yuciyuar: read the page i linked: "Anyone running an original Precise stack will NOT be automatically updated to the new Trusty HWE stack. Users can electively choose to install the Trusty enablement stack meta package if they wish to do so."
[21:11] <yuciyuar> k1l, right, i didnt choose, but anyway it updated to 12.04.05
[21:11] <yuciyuar> :d
[21:11] <k1l> yuciyuar: so you did that upgrade manually last time. if you have a 12.04 or 12.04.1 install it will stay on the "old" kernel and x stack.
[21:11] <k1l> yuciyuar: its is called 12.04.5 every time
[21:11] <yuciyuar> and i didnt know how to manually choosing and didnt checked what it make update
[21:12] <k1l> yuciyuar: its not naming the kernel or x stack. dont mix that
[21:12] <Bashing-om> yuciyuar: Background: Existing restricted drivers from AMD won't work either, because they require X-server v1.12 and Ubuntu 12.04.2 ++ uses X-server v1.13 ; That's because, starting with Ubuntu 12.04.2, the X-server version was updated to a newer version that is now incompatible with the HD 2x/3x/4x series AMD cards. Terminal command ' X -version ' to determine the x-server version.
[21:12] <k1l> yuciyuar: every 12.04 install will be named 12.04.5 now. no matter if the old kernel or the new kernel is used.
[21:13] <yuciyuar> Bashing-om, right
[21:14] <yuciyuar> k1l, i get you. i'll try
[21:15] <yuciyuar> in fact, i dont really need 12.04 if i can tweak lcd contrast via an open source driver
[21:16] <yuciyuar> the reason why i use this version is, amdccc work and i can tweak lcd contrast with it
[21:16] <k1l> yuciyuar: not running the updates is not an option because you will not have security updates like shellstorm or heartbleed then.
[21:16] <OerHeks> yuciyuar, twesk contrast on the lcdmonitor itself?
[21:17] <yuciyuar> btw, i rly need for twak contrast, not brightness setting, coz my lcd making humming noise if i reduce via brightness
[21:18] <yuciyuar> OerHeks, i use laptop and it doesnt have any contrast button
[21:18] <OerHeks> oh i c
[21:23] <b00b00> Pathfinder: i asked here because of apt-get, i assume if we install (compiling) .tar.gz version, so it easier
[21:24] <b00b00> but longer install ofcourse
[21:26] <docmur_2> I had an update go back and now when I try to chroot into my 12.04 install i get: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-close.c: 759: _dl_close: Assertion `map->l_init_called' failed!
[21:26] <docmur_2> how do I fix this
[21:26] <daftykins> docmur_2: what was the actual command that resulted in that message?
[21:27] <docmur_2> chroot /mnt/root which is the mounted corrupted root file
[21:27] <daftykins> mechanical disk?
[21:27] <docmur_2> ya
[21:27] <daftykins> can you check the SMART info from it first before going any further?
[21:28] <docmur_2> I was able to chroot it until it tried to access /dev/pts and then it crapped the bed
[21:28] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit
[21:28] <pmp6nl> Hey, eye of gnome doesnt appear to be displaying jpgs correctly. If I convert from tif to jpg eog displays the jpg with less color. This doesnt happen with other viewers. Any ideas? Thanks
[21:28] <docmur_2> and okay I'll check smart
[21:28] <daftykins> obviously where sdX is the disk
[21:29] <docmur_2> doing that now
[21:29] <docmur_2> have to install it first
[21:31] <docmur_2> http://pastie.org/10197475  The disk doesn't support smart according to the tool
[21:31] <daftykins> docmur_2: "HP" is this a server?
[21:32] <daftykins> oh that looks like a RAID.
[21:32] <daftykins> heh
[21:32] <docmur_2> yes the disks are raided, we have 8 disks functioning as 1
[21:32] <docmur_2> sorry should of mentioned that
[21:32] <docmur_2> :-)
[21:32] <daftykins> indeed you should! what is the HBA?
[21:32] <daftykins> is it software or hardware RAID?
[21:32] <docmur_2> Hardware Raid
[21:33] <daftykins> is it in a good state? not degraded?
[21:33] <docmur_2> should be fine, was working up until this morning, we've done a fsck on it with only 0.9 non continous
[21:34] <daftykins> you mentioned /dev/pts access - did you mount all of the required extras after mounting the RAID's / ?
[21:35] <docmur_2> mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/root/dev;  mount -t proc proc /mnt/root/proc;  mount -o bind /run /mnt/root/run/;  mount -o bind /dev/pts /mnt/root/pts
[21:35] <docmur_2> then chroot /mnt/root
[21:36] <daftykins> does the live USB version match the host installed version?
[21:37] <docmur_2> The live cd version is the same, should I move from live 12.04 to live 14.04
[21:37] <daftykins> nah just hoping they matched closely
[21:37] <Bashing-om> yuciyuar: What you can do is install 12.04.1 from: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ . Do Not enable the HardWare Enablement stack, update and upgrade as nornal, you will remain on the supported Xserver version . ( I too fall into that catagory, so I do know ) .
[21:38] <MadHatter42> hello
[21:38] <MadHatter42> i'm trying to add a custom kernel module
[21:38] <MadHatter42> (its a simple hello world really)
[21:39] <MadHatter42> its for an asingment
[21:39] <k1l> Bashing-om: he did install a 12.04 and was just irritated since its called 12.04.5 after the regular upgrade no matter what kernel it got.
[21:39] <MadHatter42> but the kernel that i downloaded has a different structure from the one i was working on my lab
[21:39] <docmur_2> what about removing /mnt/root/dev/pts?
[21:40] <MadHatter42> when i try to compile my kernel i get a
[21:40] <MadHatter42> undified reference to sys_hello
[21:40] <Bashing-om> guest2121212: Still setting pretty ?
[21:40] <daftykins> docmur_2: mmm don't think so, what's the plan after getting it mounted?
[21:40] <guest2121212> havent checked it in a while, but yeah, if i run into any problems i'll be back!
[21:40] <daftykins> MadHatter42: may be better in ##linux since technically your query is not ubuntu OS support
[21:40] <docmur_2> once we get it to chroot then I can continue with the apt-get dist-upgrade which should sort this issue out
[21:40] <Bashing-om> k1l: ;) .. Then he should be good .
[21:40] <daftykins> ah yeah bad update you sad, my bad
[21:41] <MadHatter42> daftykins, i was using ubuntu 12
[21:41] <MadHatter42> but my the later version of the kernel have this weirder dir structure
[21:42] <daftykins> MadHatter42: yes but your query is not of Ubuntu support :)
[21:42] <MadHatter42> daftykins, asking in #linux
[21:42] <MadHatter42> thnx
[21:43] <MadHatter42> daftykins, ever compiled a custom kernel ?
[21:43] <MadHatter42> just asking
[21:43] <skinux> Ubuntu keeps wanting me to install updates, but every time I try it tells me to check my internet connection. This makes no sense as the internet is working fine, I'm on a high-speed cable connection.
[21:43] <daftykins> docmur_2: i guess you can try, i think i'd just start looking up your initial error online
[21:43] <k1l> skinux: please show in a pastebin "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[21:45] <luisalonsocn> Hi all. I have a Lenovo Ultrabook u310 on a distro based on ubuntu 14.0, and my laptop running too hot
[21:45] <LeEarl> yo
[21:45] <LeEarl> guys does office 2013 work on ubuntu 12/14 ?
[21:45] <skinux> https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/4f8bf98b41fe915d04df
[21:45] <daftykins> luisalonsocn: 14.04?
[21:46] <k1l> skinux: holy moly. you are mixing raring and trusty repos. and maverick ones.
[21:46] <daftykins> ouch
[21:46] <skinux> Well, I'm not doing that on purpose.
[21:46] <k1l> skinux: please show a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[21:47] <skinux> I updated the Gist
[21:48] <edisto> are there any gui programs that monitor and kill processes that you can call with commands like ctrl+alt+delete when you're frozen?
[21:49] <Johnny_Linux> try htop
[21:49] <daftykins> skinux: wow you've been through a lot of upgrades on the same system huh? or just kept some old PPAs
[21:49] <OerHeks> skinux, my best advise:  do a fresh install.
[21:49] <skinux> Must be a few old PPAs
[21:49] <skinux> No, I'm not doing a fresh install.
[21:50] <edisto> Johnny_Linux: thx
[21:50] <skinux> I'm guessing the connection errors are because it's trying to pull from repositories that no longer exist.
[21:50] <k1l> skinux: see at your sources.list file. on line 62 and 63 its a maverick source.
[21:50] <Johnny_Linux> k
[21:50] <k1l> skinux: then the nemh-gambas3-trusty ppa doesnt exist anymore
[21:51] <k1l> skinux: and the ia32-libs-raring is just a very bad idea anyway
[21:52] <skinux> I'll remove any sources entry which shows as ignored in the apt output.
[21:52] <skinux> That should resolve it.
[21:52] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[21:52] <skinux> How come security and us.archive repos for trusty don't work?
[21:53] <k1l> skinux: they do
[21:53] <skinux> Hmm. Because they are ignored as well.
[21:53] <k1l> skinux: ign is not err
[21:54] <k1l> ign means: no new stuff
[21:54] <skinux> Oh, okay.
[21:59] <skinux> Well, there is no reference to raring in apt sources.list, so it must be PPAs and I don't know how to get a list of installed PPAs nor remove them.
[22:00] <e4946> I'm new to this
[22:00] <daftykins> skinux: the commands k1l gave you were how, they are stored in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:00] <e4946> can you tell me how this works
[22:01] <e4946> no one
[22:01] <e4946> ok bye
 skinux: then the nemh-gambas3-trusty ppa doesnt exist anymore <k1l> skinux: and the ia32-libs-raring is just a very bad idea anyway
[22:01] <daftykins> e4946: this channel is ubuntu OS support only, you can ask how the IRC network of freenode works by visiting the channel ("room") #freenode - "/join #freenode" to get there.
[22:01] <e4946> I will be back later
[22:01] <OerHeks> e4946, step one, bepatient.
[22:01] <daftykins> step #1 failed.
[22:01] <skinux> Yes, but I don't know how to remove PPAs.
[22:01] <k1l> skinux: easiest way is open the system settings: updates and software, then the 3rd tab
[22:02] <skinux> wait...maybe it's apt-remove-key
[22:02] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[22:02] <daftykins> skinux: ok but that is why you phrase a question asking how isn't it
[22:05] <docmur> this is still docmur_2, I'm going to see if using Ubuntu 14.04 will let me chroot
[22:05] <daftykins> i don't think that's a worthy approach but hey, it won't hurt
[22:05] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to configure a FTP server in ubuntu that uses a username and password ?
[22:06] <daftykins> kokut: do not use FTP, still stuck on this file sharing between two networked PCs thing huh?
[22:07] <tgm4883> FTP very bad
[22:07] <kokut> daftykins: nope i resigned and used a usb stick
[22:07] <kokut> which is stupid because i'm on the same network
[22:07] <daftykins> damn
[22:07] <tgm4883> kokut: both linux machines?
[22:07] <kokut> anyways i need to connect via ftp to the web server from outside the network too so
[22:07] <kokut> tgm4883: ubuntu in both yea
[22:08] <tgm4883> kokut: why not use scp?
[22:08] <daftykins> kokut: yes, so SSH + SCP
[22:08] <tgm4883> SFTP FTW
[22:08] <k1l> kokut: ssh gives sftp login. but sshfs is slower on network due to overheat. easiest would be samba which is somewhat faster. fastest is nfs.
[22:08] <kokut> might give it a try, now i need to find a way to configure ftp like you use with hosting providers and stuff
[22:08] <daftykins> someone suggested kokut browse the second system via nautilus with SFTP earlier, but was unable to help get it working i believe
[22:09] <OerHeks> filezilla works great to connect to a ftp-service
[22:09] <daftykins> kokut: no, FTP is a really bad idea. are you trying to share hosting with other people?
[22:09] <kokut> daftykins: in the future yes
[22:09] <tgm4883> kokut: really, use SFTP, not FTP
[22:09] <kokut> now i just need to get my own websites going
[22:09] <tgm4883> unless you like your passwords in plaintext
[22:09] <daftykins> kokut: with my respect the hurdles that you've been tripping up on so far show that this is a great undertaking.
[22:10] <daftykins> and likely unwise.
[22:11] <kokut> daftykins: i know man i just want to get my websites going then ill have time to worry about security
[22:12] <daftykins> i'm afraid that you're doing it backwards
[22:12] <daftykins> because if you achieve what you want to achieve, you won't go back for the extras :)
[22:12] <daftykins> it's the human condition, you need to learn it properly first time
[22:12] <tgm4883> kokut: I'm not sure what would be difficult about installing ssh and then connecting to it with something like filezilla
[22:12] <awktion> ~_~;
[22:13] <kokut> tgm4883: mkay let me try
[22:13] <luisalonsocn> daftykins: sorry for afk. Yes 14.04
[22:13] <kokut> tgm4883: u have any guides
[22:14] <daftykins> luisalonsocn: and what situation leads you to consider it's overheating / getting too hot? just physical case temperature vs. windows?
[22:14] <Jordan_U> kokut: sftp is actually easier to setup than FTP. That's partly because everyone knows that putting an FTP server on the public internet is a terrible idea, no matter how "temporary".
[22:14] <tgm4883> kokut: any guides for what? Step 1) Install ssh "apt-get install ssh" on the server. Step 2) connect to it with something like filezilla
[22:16] <Jordan_U> kokut: tgm4883: While installing filezilla from Ubuntu's repositories is perfectly safe, the fact that their sourceforge download for Windows includes malware prevents me from ever recommending it.
[22:18] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: what malware?
[22:19] <daftykins> there's WinSCP for Windows anyway
[22:19] <tgm4883> or any other sftp client.
[22:20] <OerHeks> I thought download.com is corrupted, not sourceforge :-(
[22:20] <barnex> Soooo... How do you guys keep track of multiple servers running multiple things?
[22:20] <tgm4883> barnex: define keep track of
[22:20] <barnex> I'm thinking maybe a mind map or some kind of UML-like diagram?
[22:21] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: Sourceforge's own malware, that they pay projects to give to their users. http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/8888 (Note that the developers refuse to fix this problem, they're doing it intentionally for money).
[22:21] <barnex> tgm4883: well, knowing which service is where and which vm is located on which real machine
[22:21] <barnex> what domains point to where etc
[22:21] <barnex> General human-readable information
[22:22] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: bummer
[22:23] <luisalonsocn> daftykins: I was using distro based on Ubuntu 12.04 and my battery and temperature ran good, only I had problem with overheating when I playing video games. One month ago, I migrate to a distro based on Ubuntu 14.04 and my laptop is overheating all time.
[22:23] <tgm4883> barnex: I used lucidchart in the past for that
[22:24] <tgm4883> luisalonsocn: moral of the story, don't migrate to distro's based on ubuntu ;P
[22:24] <Jordan_U> luisalonsocn: This channel doesn't support "distributions based on Ubuntu". It only supports Ubuntu.
[22:24] <daftykins> luisalonsocn: is this Mint or elementary or some such?
[22:24] <daftykins> Jordan_U beats me to it ^_^
[22:25] <daftykins> -s
[22:31] <linuxuz3r> hi
[22:31] <docmur> Using 14.04 didn't help, but it was worth a try, not I'm doing a fsck to see if that helps
[22:32] <linuxuz3r> docmur: what do you need fsck for
[22:32] <daftykins> corrupted RAID
[22:32] <linuxuz3r> ok
[22:32] <docmur> when I try to chroot I get root@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/root/
[22:32] <docmur> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-close.c: 759: _dl_close: Assertion `map->l_init_called' failed!
[22:32] <Bashing-om> linuxuz3r: Hello, A ubuntu support question ?
[22:32] <docmur> Which happened during a apt-get update
[22:32] <linuxuz3r> ok
[22:32] <linuxuz3r> oh
[22:33] <linuxuz3r> check your sources
[22:33] <docmur> and now I can't chroot into the root again
[22:33] <docmur> I have it side running a live cd right now
[22:33] <linuxuz3r> you cant chroot even on ubuntu live usb?
[22:33] <docmur> well I'm on live cd, but no
[22:33] <linuxuz3r> ok
[22:33] <docmur> I was chrooted in and then ran the apt-get update and it crash with that message
[22:33] <docmur> now I can't get back in
[22:34] <EriC^^> try to restart the live usb
[22:34] <linuxuz3r> i dont know how to trouble shoot raid but you raid a ubuntu install
[22:34] <docmur> It's not a raid issue, Ubuntu can see the root data, just something got corrupted in the process
[22:35] <docmur> it's a data corruption, not a raid issue
[22:36] <EriC^^> docmur: it's probably to do with the live usb, as chroot just runs /bin/bash from the install i think
[22:38] <linuxuz3r> why would you raid a root directory
[22:38] <docmur> fair but I have to figure out how to get around this error and whats causing it
[22:38] <luisalonsocn> daftykins: elementary :P
[22:38] <linuxuz3r> is that even a good practice
[22:38] <docmur> Hardware raid
[22:40] <ironhoof> I accidently had the ATI-update drivers installed, and it updated the update had some problems but it still seems to work, but the driver it updated too has skinning issues, is there a way to gt the old drivr back? I tried switching it back from updates to fixed, but it keeps the old driver it seems.
[22:41] <daftykins> ironhoof: you mean AMD, manual download or packages from default repos?
[22:41] <ironhoof> I used the drivers in settings, so which ever that uses.
[22:41] <daftykins> fglrx packages then
[22:42] <daftykins> go back in there and try switching to the other, it should offer you fglrx and fglrx-updates
[22:44] <ironhoof> fglrx-updates is the one i had on, it did update the driver it gave me has issues, so I switched to to fix where I thought I had it, when it did install though it said something about replacing a document gave me a window keep-replace i put the password in, and it didnt proceed, so i rebooted and fixed the packes through dkpg. I was kind of wanting the original driver back though.
[22:44] <HoloIRCUser> Hello there. I am having some trouble with my TTY after installing the package kubuntu-desktop. Can anyone help me?
[22:44] <kokut> so i connected to my web server via sftp and i'm getting the home folder instead i want to get the /var/www/ folder
[22:45] <daftykins> kokut: yes so browse to it, .. goes up
[22:45] <linuxuz3r> hi kokut
[22:45] <HoloIRCUser> Unless I boot into sddm or open KDE, my Ctrl + Alt + FX hotkey will not open any TTY
[22:45] <kokut> daftykins: i know but i just want to be on the /www/ folder when i connect
[22:45] <daftykins> ironhoof: yeah so pick the other one?
[22:45] <kokut> linuxuz3r: hi man
[22:46] <daftykins> kokut: so set that up in the program... honestly you will need to begin thinking for yourself :)
[22:46] <kokut> daftykins: what program?
[22:46] <daftykins> whatever one you're using to connect
[22:46] <ironhoof> Has the same issue, but it didnt prior, im wondering if i should use the open driver, and purge reinstall it again.
[22:46] <kokut> daftykins: i dont know if you can do that in filezilla
[22:46] <daftykins> ironhoof: worth a go, just run sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[22:47] <daftykins> kokut: _yes_ read the readme/manual for the program it will describe how
[22:47] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: if it's sftp then you just need sftp server.com:/var/www/
[22:47] <ironhoof> alright.
[22:48] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: didnt work
[22:48] <SchrodingersScat> did on my machine, what did you do?
[22:49] <kokut> daftykins: k found it in advanced tab :) ty anyways
[22:49] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: dont worry i went to the advanced tab in filezilla and set the directory there
[22:50] <TyrfingMjolnir> Doing a dist-upgrade from lucid to precise
[22:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
[22:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
[22:51] <TyrfingMjolnir>   lzma (due to dpkg)
[22:51] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: you cannot dist-upgrade like that
[22:51] <daftykins> it is not supported
[22:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> How to fix?
[22:51] <daftykins> (i'm assuming you mean you edited sources.list and are running a dist-upgrade)
[22:52] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: tell me what you ran first
[22:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> :%s/lucid/precise/g
[22:52] <daftykins> yes very bad idea
[22:52] <daftykins> cancel the current process then revert
[22:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> I have always done like that
[22:52] <enki> fast & fourius 7
[22:52] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: it's not supported :)
[22:52] <HoloIRCUser> How can I modify a package's purge script?
[22:52] <daftykins> 'here be dragons' etc
[22:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> How can I revert?
[22:53] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: like i just said, cancel then edit the sources.list back again
[22:53] <HoloIRCUser> sddm's purge script is broken and I would like to modify it manually
[22:54] <TyrfingMjolnir> daftykins: and then?
[22:54] <tgm4883> TyrfingMjolnir: and then update the proper way
[22:54] <Guest69739> what
[22:54] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser, did you stop lightdm before purging that displaymanager?
[22:54] <Guest69739> who
[22:54] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:54] <Guest69739> hey yall
[22:54] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: after backing up
[22:55] <Guest69739> what is that porn
[22:55] <OerHeks> !ot | Guest69739
[22:55] <TyrfingMjolnir> ImportError: No module named GnuPGInterface
[22:55] <HoloIRCUser> No, but I want to keep lightdm
[22:55] <Guest69739> p
[22:55] <Guest69739> o
[22:55] <Guest69739> r
[22:55] <Guest69739> n
[22:55] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser, that is not what i asked, and purging sddm does not remove lightdm.
[22:56] <HoloIRCUser> It's working well, the problem is whatever KDE has installed that is taking the TTY as a hostage
[22:56] <OerHeks> Normally one would stop a service before romving components.
[22:56] <daftykins> Jordan_U: do you have a moment for Guest69739 ? :)
[22:56] <HoloIRCUser> I guess it is sddm
[22:56] <TyrfingMjolnir> https://bpaste.net/show/61d45ab1e3a6
[22:57] <Guest69739> who am i
[22:57] <Guest69739> ping
[22:57] <Guest69739> lj
[22:57] <HoloIRCUser> Should I try to remove lightdm again? I don't think it's what's causing the problem
[22:57] <agent_white> Guest69739: Pong
[22:57] <HoloIRCUser> GDM also fails to use the TTY
[22:58] <Guest69739> hewhat
[22:58] <Guest69739> holoiruser
[22:58] <Guest69739> someone
[22:58] <hexafraction> I'm trying to resize an NTFS partition with small inconsistencies, and am in a difficult spot because the partition has loads of data that I'd prefer not to have to format away, but I no longer have a windows *installation* from which to run a disk check which ntfsresize insists upon. Is there a way to force ntfsresize to do its actions?
[22:59] <hexafraction> Will -f be a good way to go about this?
[23:00] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser, no, stop lightdm, by going to ctrl alt f1, login, sudo service stop lightdm, then remove sddm and start your gui again with ctrl alt f7
[23:00] <OerHeks> or reboot
[23:01] <HoloIRCUser> I actually can't use Ctrl Alt FX, that's the problem
[23:03] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser, why not? else i have no clue how to fix it.
[23:03] <TyrfingMjolnir> sudo do-release-upgrade takes med here: https://bpaste.net/show/61d45ab1e3a6
[23:03] <HoloIRCUser> I have no idea. After installing kubuntu-desktop, that function stopped working altogether
[23:04] <Guest69739> hey i need help with alice 2.4
[23:04] <HoloIRCUser> Seems like booting into sddm does the trick, but I want to use lightdm
[23:04] <docmur> it appears it's ld.so which is broken
[23:04] <docmur> does anyone know how to fix that from a live cd?
[23:05] <HoloIRCUser> Oh wait, finally managed to fix it.
[23:05] <HoloIRCUser> After purging sddm by fixing its script, it removed the sddm group and now lightdm can manage TTY again
[23:08] <rusticplague> hello
[23:09] <reisio> 'lo
[23:09] <rusticplague> TDDIRC
[23:09] <rusticplague> #TDDIRC
[23:10] <rusticplague> set height 7"
[23:10] <rusticplague> <img src="">
[23:10] <rusticplague> / hello
[23:10] <rusticplague> testing
[23:10] <rusticplague> ^^
[23:10] <rusticplague> *
[23:10] <rusticplague> * 000)))
[23:10] <rusticplague> (hello)
[23:11] <rusticplague> print "hello"
[23:11] <rusticplague> #ubuntu
[23:11] <Jordan_U> rusticplague: Please stop.
[23:11] <ruth> hi, guys, we have two computers each with a headset. We want to talk to each other on the headsets. We thought Mumble would work, but we can't get it to work right. Does anyone know what to do?
[23:13] <docmur> This is the data from the apt-get update, if it helps http://pastie.org/10197576
[23:14] <rusticplague> exit
[23:14] <SchrodingersScat> ruth: mumble should work, are you both connected to the same server?
[23:14] <rusticplague> can someone please tell me the command to leave current chat room?
[23:15] <Jordan_U> rusticplague: /part
[23:15] <EriC^^> rusticplague: /quit or /part to just leave the channel
[23:15] <rusticplague> thank you
[23:16] <ruth> Well, we don't know what server to get, but other people are connected to it. How do we get our own server?
[23:16] <ruth> We tried one and other people were connected to it.
[23:18] <SchrodingersScat> ruth: if you want to run your own server, install mumble-server on a machine you can both connect to.
[23:21] <TyrfingMjolnir> Following this approach: https://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-from-ubuntu-10-04-via-the-terminal/ giving me this: https://bpaste.net/show/a0d247927915 how to fix?
[23:23] <CryptoSiD> is vivid still the last ubuntu version?
[23:23] <SchrodingersScat> !vivid | CryptoSiD
[23:23] <SchrodingersScat> CryptoSiD: yes
[23:24] <CryptoSiD> no testing ver?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> TyrfingMjolnir: While that guide seems to be fine, you should never use a blog post when there is official documentation available.
[23:24] <CryptoSiD> wily is the last version:)
[23:24] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | CryptoSiD
[23:25] <yeats> TyrfingMjolnir: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1767358&page=2&p=12219409#post12219409 might help
[23:26] <TyrfingMjolnir> yeats: and we are on
[23:26] <CryptoSiD> ho sorry didnt knew about ubuntu+1
[23:26] <CryptoSiD> :D
[23:28] <SchrodingersScat> CryptoSiD: yeah, alpha/beta is offtopic here, feel free to have fun with those guys though :)
[23:28] <CryptoSiD> im just addicted to updates so:D
[23:28] <vanna> Hello
[23:28] <vanna> why i'm update cannot install on store
[23:29] <shudon> hi all :) what video card should i buy if i want opengl 4.2+ with an open source driver? (good performance might be nice, too...)
[23:29] <shudon> use my nick to reply, gotta brb 5 minutes :)
[23:29] <saberros1776> yo
[23:32] <nagerst> i am having problems with bumblebee, i have followed the official install guide, but nothing seems to work for me. I have tried reinstalling the entire os several times.
[23:33] <blue403> what happens with a shell background process that requires input from stdin?
[23:34] <lillinuxandmacgu> I am currently running ubuntu 15.04 on a macbook pro 2011 (not my only linux laptop, the rest are on PCs) and I am having problems getting the trackpad to work properly, anyone got any ideas. Its a late 2011 macbook pro i7
[23:34] <bekks> blue403: It wont get input, because it is in background.
[23:34] <blue403> bekks: but it's running
[23:35] <bekks> blue403: It runs because it waits for input.
[23:36] <shudon> back
[23:36] <blue403> what does it mean that a process is in the background?
[23:39] <bekks> blue403: Imagine having two sheets of paper, you're writing on. The sheet in the background "waits for input", because the is a question printed on it. As long as that sheet is behind the foreground sheet, it "waits".
[23:40] <LeEarl> blue403, it means it is not in the foreground ;D
[23:41] <blue403> bekks: well.. the bg process is running afaik.
[23:41] <LeEarl> blue403, it simple laymen terms it means it is running but u cant see it. Just like your tummy is digesting food but u r not seeing it
[23:41] <blue403> bekks: if the bg process prints, it gets printend to the console. But what about input?
[23:41] <bekks> blue403: Of course. "Running" means, the background sheet of paper exists,
[23:41] <Buffy> That awkward moment when you realize you're a version behind
[23:42] <Buffy> Fuck
[23:42] <LeEarl> blue403, u saw the processes of food input and output but never digestion.
[23:42] <LeEarl> so digestion is happening in the background
[23:42] <bekks> blue403: you cannot input stuff on the background sheet of paper / the background process.
[23:42] <blue403> LeEarl: is the bg process in running or blocked?
[23:42] <bekks> It is RUNNING and WAITING for input.
[23:42] <LeEarl> of course running
[23:43] <LeEarl> bekks why u keep asking?
[23:43] <blue403> bekks: what if it's just in a for loop, then it isn't waiting for input.
[23:43] <LeEarl> what is going on there?
[23:43] <bekks> LeEarl: I am not asking.
[23:43] <LeEarl> sorry I mean blue403
[23:43] <blue403> LeEarl: but if it happens to be waiting, it means that it has done a system call to read, right?
[23:43] <bekks> blue403: If something in that loop waits for input, it waits for input.
[23:43] <bekks> blue403: forget system calls.
[23:43] <blue403> bekks: and how'll that be noticed in the shell?
[23:44] <LeEarl> blue403, it does whatever it is intended to do
[23:44] <bekks> blue403: It doesnt get noticed on the foreground sheet, that there is a question to be answered on the background sheet.
[23:44] <LeEarl> blue403 u need an app to show the running processes
[23:45] <LeEarl> or programs
[23:45] <bekks> blue403: It is like pinning a sheet of paper with a question on it to your living room wall. you can walk around it, look at it, laugh at it, but never answer it. It still is pinned there and waits in despair.
[23:46] <blue403> are you guys trolling?
[23:46] <blue403> I'm asking kernel specific implementations
[23:46] <bekks> blue403: You did not.
[23:46] <bekks> you asked about background processes.
[23:46] <LeEarl> blue403, http://hisham.hm/htop/
[23:46] <LeEarl> blue403, is this #kernel ?
[23:47] <brainwash> !kernel
[23:47] <bekks> background processes are nor kernel specific, but happen in userland.
[23:48] <bekks> The kernel itself is a big "program" with a hive of threads doing specific things.
[23:51] <Angi12> hola como estan
[23:52] <Jordan_U> blue403: A program that tries to read from stdin when there is nothing to be read will block on that read. If a program is in the background then there is nothing to be read from stdin.