[04:42] <mwhudson> launchpad doesn't do any js drag and drop yet does it?
[04:49] <wgrant> mwhudson: None.
[07:00] <ronin___> Hi
[07:00] <ronin___> Could you help me about launchpad.net is resterict for Iranian people or not?
[07:03] <ronin___> When I want access to launchpad, I can't
[07:03] <ronin___> anybody can help me?
[07:04] <stub> ronin___: Launchpad is available to everyone.
[07:04] <ronin___> stub: but when I wanna access to it, I can't
[07:05] <stub> ronin___: Problems are not at the Launchpad end. Launchpad is SSL only, so if that might have got it put on some filters.
[07:06] <ronin___> stub: do you have any suggestion?
[07:06] <ronin___> stub: unlikely Iran has a filter, before I use yourfreedom for access to launchpad
[07:07] <ronin___> but nowadays Iran gov decide to close the VPN port
[07:09] <mrevell> Hey up?
[07:10] <stub> ronin___: I can't help diagnose connection issues sorry. Its standard HTTPS / SSL stuff at the Launchpad end.
[07:11] <ronin___> when I ping the launchpad.net I've got the reply but when I want access by browser I've got This webpage is not available
[07:12] <tsimpson> ronin___: then something is blocking you connecting to Launchpad over https, but there's nothing that can be done about it on the launchpad.net end
[07:25] <lifeless> ronin___: we don't filter at our end
[07:28] <ronin___> thank you all
[08:41] <alkisg> I'm receiving message because I'm indirectly subscribed to the  Ubuntu Documentation Project Team: Alkis Georgopoulos → Edubuntu Council → Edubuntu Website → Edubuntu Documentation Team → Ubuntu Documentation Project Team
[08:41] <alkisg> Can I somehow configure launchpad to not send me those messages, without unsubscribing from edubuntu?
[08:42] <alkisg> (I'm mainly talking about mails for launchpad bugs related to the docs team)
[10:07] <Sweetshark> is there a way to query launchpad for a machine readable bug list?
[10:07] <wgrant> Sweetshark: https://help.launchpad.net/API
[10:07] <Sweetshark> wgrant: thanks
[10:07] <nigelb> Related reading, launchpadlib.
[11:00] <Sweetshark> wgrant, nigelb: How do I get a list of bug filed against "openoffice.org (Ubuntu)" with that? I guess it works somehow from project->task->bug ...
[11:01] <wgrant> Sweetshark: That's the openoffice.org source package in Ubuntu.
[11:02] <wgrant> So, something like lp.distributions['ubuntu'].getSourcePackage(name='openoffice.org').searchTasks()
[11:22] <Sweetshark> wgrant: i tries something like lp.distributions['ubuntu'].getSourcePackage(name='openoffice.org').searchTasks(status="New") but I still get  timeout errrors
[12:58] <alkisg> Hi, I'm receiving launchpad bug notifications from the Ubuntu Documentation Project Team because I'm indirectly subscribed to it: Alkis Georgopoulos → Edubuntu Council → Edubuntu Website → Edubuntu Documentation Team → Ubuntu Documentation Project Team
[12:58] <alkisg> Can I somehow configure launchpad to not send me those emails, without unsubscribing from edubuntu?
[12:59] <jml> alkisg: if it's bug mail, you can go to the project that you're getting mail from and change your mail subscription there
[13:00] <alkisg> jml, it's not just one project, I'm getting bug mails for all the bugs where the Ubuntu Documentation Project Team gets subscribed
[13:00] <alkisg> Currently that's about 50 mails per day...
[13:01] <adeuring> alkisg: the mails you receive have at the bottom a link to a oage where you can configure the subscription
[13:01] <adeuring> s/oage/page/
[13:01] <alkisg> adeuring: that's still a per-project link
[13:02] <alkisg> So I'd need to do that for dozens of projects, and keep doing it as new bugs arrive
[13:02] <alkisg> And, I'd lose notifications about those projects that I actually care about (i.e. not related to docs)
[13:03] <alkisg> "You received this bug notification because you are a (*indirect*) member of Ubuntu Documentation Project Team, which is subscribed to the bug report." ==> so I'd like to be able to cancel the bug mail that comes from that subscription....
[13:04] <alkisg> *team subscription, not bug subscription
[13:04] <adeuring> right...
[13:05] <alkisg> OK - I was just checking if that functionality existed and I failed to see it - thank you guys.
[13:06] <adeuring> alkisg: I am still thinking about it... But I'm afraid that there is not yet a proper way. But I understand quite well that the amount of mails you are recieving is really annoying. Would you mind to file a bug about it?
[13:06] <alkisg> Sure, in which subsystem? launchpad itself?
[13:06] <adeuring> alkisg: yes, in LP itself.
[13:06] <alkisg> Thank you
[13:06] <wgrant> alkisg: Many consider it bad practice to subscribe teams to bugs (particularly when they're involved in large hierarchies like this), unless they have a mailing list and contact address set up.
[13:07] <wgrant> For just this reason.
[13:07] <wgrant> It makes mail really hard to manage.
[13:07] <alkisg> Yeah :(
[13:07] <adeuring> It seems to me that a five-level indirection of subscriptions should not cause mail notifications...
[13:20] <alkisg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/850901
[13:25] <adeuring> alkisg: thanks!
[13:25] <alkisg> Thank you :)
[13:58] <Sweetshark> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/690014/ <= any reason why the text is ignored? Does the whitespace in front of the => cause trouble (via email interface)
[15:27] <bjsnider> is there a way i can upload to a ppa without typing in a password first?
[15:28] <bigjools> what is prompting you for a password?
[15:28] <TheEvilPhoenix> i think he means the  sftp passcodes
[15:28] <TheEvilPhoenix> s/sftp/ftp/
[15:29] <bigjools> there are no passwords for ftp, it's anonymous
[15:29] <bigjools> I suspect it's the GPG passphrase
[15:29] <bjsnider> ftp asks me for a password and then doesn't care what i type in
[15:30] <bjsnider> i'd also like to not have to unlock anything to use sftp
[15:30] <bjsnider> this machine is secure
[15:30] <bigjools> if you use dput it doesn't ask for a password
[15:30] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[15:31] <bjsnider> yes it does
[15:31] <bigjools> then you have it configured wrongly
[15:31] <bigjools> what are you uploading to?
[15:32] <bjsnider> is there a way i can upload using sftp and not have to type in a password?
[15:32] <bigjools> what are you uploading to?
[15:32] <bjsnider> a ppa
[15:33] <bigjools> what command are you using to upload?
[15:34] <bjsnider> dput ppaname *changes
[15:34] <bigjools> and you configured ppaname in your .dput.cf?
[15:34] <bigjools> if you are using karmic or higher you can just do: dput ppa:launchpadid/ppaname changes
[15:35] <bigjools> if you want to use SFTP look here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/1738
[15:38] <bjsnider> bigjools, so adding the colon and launchpadid stops the unlock request?
[15:39] <bigjools> what unlock request?
[15:39] <bigjools> is that something different to the ftp password?
[15:39] <bjsnider> if i use sftp as the method, i get a request to unlock something first
[15:39] <bjsnider> maybe the keyring
[15:40] <bigjools> passphrase on your ssh key?
[15:40] <bjsnider> ok, maybe that's it
[15:51] <bjsnider> when i use ftp it asks for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>password:"
[15:51] <bjsnider> i just hit enter and it continues
[15:54] <bigjools> please paste me a copy of your screen for that, and your .dput.cf
[16:06] <bjsnider> i've been using this dput.cf successfully for years, so i doubt there's anything wrong with it
[16:06] <bigjools> I can't help you unless you help me
[16:08] <bjsnider> i think bzr-builddeb is responsible for this
[16:15] <bjsnider> fixed this issue by changing to login = anonymous
[16:16] <bigjools> so there was a problem with your dut.cf then
[16:16] <bigjools> dput.cf even
[16:16] <bjsnider> i must have changed that part of it when i switched to sftp because of this alleged router bug
[16:17] <bjsnider> my router is as expensive as they come, so i hate to think there's a bug in it
[16:18] <bigjools> you don't need an explicit target defined for PPA uploads
[16:19] <bigjools> the system dput.cf has one
[16:19] <bigjools> but that FAQ shows you how to add an extra one for SFTP
[16:19] <Sweetshark> so, I just submitted a bulk change to launchpad via email and the comments for the change were ignored. Is there an easy way to post a comment to multiple bugs via email?
[16:20] <Sweetshark> or do I need to use launchpadlib?
[16:20] <Sweetshark> (which feels rather cumbersome to me)
[16:35] <deryck> Sweetshark, you'll need the api for that.
[16:36] <Sweetshark> deryck: k
[17:20] <deryck> abentley, over to you for IRC now.
[18:24] <aber> hey, I have a package recipe, that from time to time fails, but I have no idea, what the problem is.
[18:24] <aber> https://code.launchpad.net/~widelands-dev/+recipe/widelands-daily
[18:44] <aber> *fails to upload and says the file already exits, despite I have the revision inside the version string.
[19:02] <mgariepy> hi, is there a way to disable bug mail notification from some team and not other?
[20:18] <Daviey> Is it not possible to open a task with no package, if there are already tasks with packages on the same bug?
[20:20] <abentley> mgariepy: I don't think there is.
[20:20] <abentley> Daviey: tasks have either a package or a project.  Do you mean opening a task with a project?
[20:21] <mgariepy> abentley, ok thanks for your answer :)
[20:22] <Daviey> abentley: I want a Ubuntu bug, with no source package.  There are already 2 x tasks with Ubuntu packages, but i need a third one for a package that is TBD.
[20:23] <abentley> deryck: Can you answer this one? ^^
[20:27]  * deryck looks....
[20:30] <deryck> Daviey, you can't open a task against Ubuntu without a package, once there is an Ubuntu task already.  sorry.
[20:36] <Daviey> sucks2beme
[20:40] <kiko> Daviey, when you say it's tbd what is the specific situation?
[20:41] <nigelb> I'm guessing package is yet to be uploaded.
[20:41] <Daviey> kiko: It's a NEW package, so cannot mark a task against it.
[20:41] <Daviey> nigelb: bingo.
[20:41] <kiko> that's kinda bong
[20:49] <deryck> Daviey, I can't find a bug for this situation.  Can you open one against launchpad explaining all this?
[20:50] <Daviey> deryck: wilco.
[20:53] <astraljava> Hi folks, I never created a new branch in LP before, but now that I made one under ~ubuntustudio-dev (a team in which I belong to), it has +junk in it, which is a tad inpropriate. How to get rid of it?
[20:54] <flacoste> astraljava: create a project and push the branch to it
[20:54] <flacoste> Launchpad is very project-centric
[20:55] <flacoste> and our story for incubation (growing from a small branch to a proper "project") is very poor
[20:55] <astraljava> flacoste: But it should be under ubuntustudio project, I believe.
[20:56] <flacoste> then push to that
[20:56] <flacoste> bzr push lp:~ubuntustudiodev/ubuntustudio/<branch-name>
[20:56] <flacoste> i'm missing an hyphen there, sorry
[20:56] <flacoste> (in the team name)
[20:56] <flacoste> astraljava: you can then delte the +junk branch
[20:57] <astraljava> flacoste: Okay, let me try that.
[20:59] <astraljava> flacoste: Thanks, it worked! I missed the +junk there, as I copied it from the page of the branch I created on the website. I didn't know I could create it by simply pushing in bzr. Thanks so much!
[21:04] <flacoste> astraljava: yeah, you can do a lot with LP directly from the bzr command line
[21:06] <astraljava> flacoste: I like that. :)
[23:07] <Laney> has something gone wrong with debian imports?
[23:08] <james_w> I think they are disabled currently
[23:08] <james_w> or were for the last couple of days
[23:08] <james_w> assuming you mean packages, rather than bugs
[23:08] <Laney> yeah
[23:09] <james_w> wgrant, will of course be able to speak more knowledgeably on the subject
[23:10] <wgrant> I am just speaking to admins about turning them back on, right now.
[23:10] <wgrant> There were some issues with the migration to set things to Superseded and Deletions.
[23:10] <Laney> awesome
[23:11] <wgrant> So it'll actually properly represent the Debian archive, which will be handy.
[23:12] <Laney> well, I'll try this sync again in the morning then
[23:12] <Laney> goodnight
[23:12] <Laney> thanks for the update


[02:03] <tntc> Does the ubuntu one music player support anything besides .mp3?
[02:03] <tntc> I've only got mp3s, so I can't test, but an interested party is asking.
[02:04] <karni> tntc: Do you mean Ubuntu One Music for Android?
[02:04] <tntc> exactly.
[02:05] <karni> tntc: I think mp3 and ogg, although this just rings a bell, I'm not sure (and it's 3AM so I won't test this now)
[02:05] <karni> :)
[02:05] <tntc> hehe. fair enough :)
[02:05] <karni> tntc: Cool :)
[02:05] <tntc> I wish I had flacc to test it with. that's what he was asking about
[02:06] <karni> tntc: Aha.. That I can say for 99% sure, we don't support flacc.
[02:06] <tntc> I just tried Google Music, but IMO, ubuntuone is way better.
[02:06] <karni> tntc: Win! \o/ Thank you :)
[02:06] <tntc> :) Worth every penny I paid. I've got 3 x 20Gb packs
[02:06] <tntc> plus the mobile service
[02:06] <tntc> it's excellent!
[02:07] <karni> CardinalFang: lol, you just missed it! "03:06 < tntc> I just tried Google Music, but IMO, ubuntuone is way better."
[02:07] <tntc> XD
[02:07] <karni> CardinalFang: Do we support flacc?
[02:07] <CardinalFang> FLAC?  Hrm, maybe.
[02:07] <karni> tntc: Thanks man! We're happy to hear that :)
[02:07] <CardinalFang> Ogg/Flac should be scanned correctly.
[02:07] <karni> CardinalFang: tntc: :D
[02:08] <karni> tntc: You see, I shouldn't have been so sure (there goes the 1% chance of me being wrong ;) )
[02:08] <CardinalFang> FLAC on Android, hrm.  Probably.  It's all native codecs, so if phone supports it. ...
[02:08] <tntc> karni: More than happy to share it :) I keep hearing about all these cloud services popping up, but the Windows Live cloud is weird and only allows syncing of 5gb out of the 25gb, and I don't even want to touch the iCloud
[02:09] <karni> tntc: 5 out of 25? hahahah :D That sounds funny.
[02:09] <tntc> Ubuntu One 1) has an ubuntu client 2) Syncs anything I want 3) has a nice music app. Trifecta
[02:09] <tntc> karni: You can UPLOAD more to it, but you can actively sync it with mesh or something.
[02:09] <karni> tntc: Just you wait for more ;)
[02:09] <tntc> karni: I'll be a test monkey if you want :)
[02:09] <karni> tntc: I can't say more, but stay tuned :)
[02:10] <tntc> I will! I've actually converted all my machines to Ubuntu. I find myself missing too much in Windows 7.
[02:10] <karni> tntc: Who-hooo! Sweet! (I can't remember when I last used my Win7)
[02:11] <tntc> I have to use XP/7 for class and work sometimes, but for home use I'm completly hooked.
[02:11] <karni> dammit, django is so cooool! o_O :D
[02:12] <tntc> ooh, python!
[02:12] <karni> tntc: I know that pain.  Ubuntu One as well :)
[02:12] <tntc> I'm taking an MIS class, and it's all MS Office.
[02:12] <karni> Yuck
[02:13] <tntc> Fortunately, last semester I took a Unix Systems programming course, and this fall my web dev course is likely to be in linux
[02:13] <tntc> LAMP stack, I think
[02:13] <karni> I'm just going through tutorial01 on django website and I'm having a braingasm.
[02:13] <karni> tntc: :)
[02:13] <tntc> Still, out of all the languages I've used, I like python the best. For my Java assignments, I often prototype in python first because it's so. much. easier.
[02:14] <tntc> he! I want to build a page using django. I haven't had the time lately.
[02:14] <karni> tntc: Tell me more. I'm Android developer.. xD
[02:14] <karni> tntc: And by that I mean.. I agreeeee!!!
[02:14] <tntc> karni: I wish there was full blown python for Android! The ASE is good, but full market support would be the best!
[02:14] <karni> tntc: Time you say. That's why I'm still up ant it's 3AM xD
[02:15] <tntc> karni: hehe. It's only 9pm here, but I'll be up for another 6 or 7 hours I bet.
[02:15] <karni> tntc: Man, if Android could run python apps.. Insane!
[02:15] <tntc> karni: well, ASE means it SORT OF can
[02:15] <karni> Right. Sort of - makes a difference :(
[02:15] <tntc> yeah.
[02:15] <tntc> Is there a Jython port for droid yet?
[02:15] <CardinalFang> karni, Django high-five.
[02:16] <karni> CardinalFang: Django high-five!
[02:16] <tntc> hehe
[02:16] <karni> tntc: *looks around* I have no idea. Jython is written in pure Java..
[02:17] <karni> tntc: Anyway, lemme play a moment with django and I'm outta here :)
[02:17] <tntc> k! good luck!
[02:17] <karni> tntc: Thanks! HAve a great evening!
[02:19] <tntc> you too!
[02:20] <tntc> Oh, on a side note, two features I would love from UbuntuOne: Web based player for music, and VIDEO support.
[02:20] <karni> I'm just learning dvorak, but Dvorak+Python+Django (I'm new to all three, apart from reading TONS of python for few months now) - is orgasmistic for my geek brain.
[02:20] <karni> tntc: Noted ;)
[02:20] <tntc> karni: :D
[02:21] <tntc> See, I can't do Dvorak. I don't spend enough time on machines I can customize like that. I tend to mold myself around the tool I'm using, rather than the other way around.
[02:21] <tntc> It means I'm really good with defaults.
[02:21] <tntc> I was so relieved when Ubuntu switched the music player to Banshee. <3
[02:22] <tntc> now all we need is chromium as the default browser, and I won't have to change anything to use ubuntu out of the box ;)
[02:22] <karni> tntc: I just added a layout - switching Dvorak/QWERTY is matter of a shortcut now :)
[02:22] <karni> tntc: Agreed! Chromium ftw
[02:22] <tntc> karni: on Ubuntu, sure! But I know all these crazy Mac/Windows people
[02:23] <karni> tntc: Well, not to mention you have to actually know dvorak :)
[02:23] <karni> tntc: Ah right. True.
[02:23] <tntc> karni: meh. I'd learn it.
[02:23] <karni> Yes, it's very pleasant to learn :)
[02:23] <tntc> I just don't /need/ to. If someone handed me a dvorak keyboard for work, i'd figure it out, but until then, I'll be on QWERTY
[02:24] <karni> Meh, I'm writing this in QWERTY (still 5x slower on dvorak)
[02:24] <tntc> meh. It gives me time to think :)
[02:24] <CardinalFang> tntc, groovy, python, scala, I think they all import some language-supporting libraries that make them really bulky to have on a tiny device.
[02:25] <karni> tntc: Coding so many hours daily brought me to conclusion I have to care about my palms and fingers. And qwerty is a silent killer.
[02:25] <CardinalFang> tntc, I tried with Clojure a while back.
[02:26] <tntc> CardinalFang: eh. a 1ghz CPU and 512MB of ram isn't enough to handle python?
[02:26] <CardinalFang> ... like, Android 1.5, G1 days.
[02:26] <CardinalFang> tntc, the RAM is the problem.
[02:26] <CardinalFang> tntc, but, I don't really know.  Go find out.  Come back and report.
[02:26]  * karni falls back to django
[02:27] <tntc> CardinalFang: well, like I said, ASE supports python, so the base language is there.
[02:28] <tntc> They have hooks into the regular android interfaces. I think it's just not complete yet.
[02:28] <tntc> It has been done before. PyS60 from Nokia
[02:29] <CardinalFang> But those aren't inside a JVM.  Add a layer.
[02:29] <CardinalFang> And I programmed on S60 Python quite a lot.
[02:30] <tntc> I suppose. Perhaps it's wishful thinking :)
[02:33] <tntc> I think even ASE/SL4A would be more than sufficient if it had more developer umph behind it
[02:34] <tntc> and a little bit of integration with the Android SDK
[02:38] <karni> omg doing this tutorial is like Christmas revisited, I love it! django automates everything
[02:39] <karni> (Not that I love Christmas, but referring to presents mainly brings happy memories ;P )
[02:46] <tntc> hehe
[02:52] <karni> Night!
[09:07] <pepok> hi
[09:07] <pepok> could anybody help?
[09:07] <pepok> i cannot start ubuntu one
[09:07] <pepok> I have account
[09:08] <pepok> but after upgrade to the last distribution is ubuntu1 not starting
[09:08] <pepok> not showing up
[09:40] <vinexas> hi
[09:40] <vinexas>  I need help with starting of ubuntu one
[09:40] <vinexas> it is not even showing after clicking ubuntu one from the menu
[09:41] <vinexas> I have upgradet to linux mnt 11.04
[09:41] <vinexas> after that I cannot start ubuntu one client on my PC


[04:36] <engineer-pearl> Hi... I think something is wrong with my apache2, and I don't really know what I'm looking for ((I'm teaching myself PHP, so I deffinately need it)).
[04:36] <engineer-pearl> I'm getting apastebin ready
[04:38] <engineer-pearl> this is the output when I try to restart it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23596809/
[05:14] <jerichowasahoax> Where do systemd service files live? I need to modify one.
[05:15] <jerichowasahoax> I understand that Canonical is not responsible if my modifications crash my server, kill my dog, etc etc etc
[05:16] <jerichowasahoax> oh i found it, /lib/systemd/system
[08:04] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:51] <zioproto> coreycb: hello, upgrading Liberty to Mitaka we have hit this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1626972 It is already fixed in qemu xenial. Any plan to backport to trusty in the ubuntu cloud archive ?
[08:52] <zioproto> jamespage: it looks you know about this patch
[08:53] <jamespage> zioproto, 1:2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.7~cloud0	 is in mitaka-proposed in the UCA
[08:53] <jamespage> I think that has the fixes
[08:53] <zioproto> thanks I will check
[08:55] <zioproto> jamespage: btw, for already running VMs with the old version there is no chance to live migrate them without stopping them I guess. Is that correct ?
[08:56] <zioproto> sorry, I got lost on launchpad, where is the git repository for the trusty mitaka proposed packages ?
[08:56] <jamespage> zioproto, oh its a UCA pocket
[08:57] <jamespage> add-apt-repository cloud-archive:mitaka-proposed
[08:57] <zioproto> thanks
[09:03] <jamespage> zioproto, re existing VM's
[09:03] <jamespage> hmm
[09:03] <jamespage> I would suspect that a stop/start is required to pickup the new qemu binary
[09:04] <zioproto> Yes, that is what I also think !
[09:04] <zioproto> too bad users will have downtime
[09:04] <jamespage> tinoco would know for suer
[09:04] <jamespage> or cpaelzer ^^ ?
[09:13] <zioproto> jamespage: I checked out the sources and looks like the patch at hw/virtio/vhost.c is not there
[09:13] <zioproto> I did debcheckout --git-track='*' qemu
[09:13] <zioproto> using deb-src http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty-proposed/mitaka main
[09:14] <zioproto> that is the correct source tree ?
[09:14] <zioproto> I am looking for a patch that looks like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/591758/
[09:27] <jamespage> zioproto, well the fix should be in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu/1:2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.7 -> which maps to 1:2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.7~cloud
[09:27] <jamespage> I don't know specifically where the server team put their git/bzr source
[09:27] <jamespage> zioproto, I'd rely on the archive to be definative here
[09:31] <zioproto> yes this is the launchpad page I was looking for at my first question :)
[09:31] <zioproto> thanks
[09:32] <zioproto> but this is for xenial and not for trusty
[09:32] <zioproto> am I wrong ?
[09:35] <arcimboldo_> the corresponding bug only reports yakkey xenial and z* patches
[09:35] <arcimboldo_> I made my own packages
[09:43] <zioproto> jamespage: arcimboldo_ is the actual person that tested the patch at University of Zurich :)
[09:44] <zioproto> jamespage: OK the patch is there, but is that package going to land in trusty ?
[09:45] <jamespage> zioproto, that pocket targets trusty - or are you actually looking for the same patch to the qemu in trusty release?
[09:45] <jamespage> zioproto, i.e. mitaka UCA for trusty include qemu with fixes
[09:46] <zioproto> no, I think we are fine. So that patch will be in mitaka UCA trusty, as soon as the package gets out of mitaka-proposed, right ?
[09:47] <zioproto> so we just upgraded a few days too early ? :)
[09:53] <zioproto> I have another question. We are running Ceph hammer and now we notice that UCA Mitaka trusty ships Ceph Jewel. If we ping Ceph to Hammer there is any known major problem ? :)
[09:56] <zioproto> There is anything in the MItaka nova-compute that requrires ceph jewel packages??
[10:04] <cpaelzer> jamespage: sprinting and just seeing the message know
[10:04] <cpaelzer> jamespage: is there a quetsion left open still?
[10:06] <cpaelzer> jamespage: I#d think you need to restart to pick up, but in theory you could also migrate to a same-version sibling, retstart the original source, migrate it back there and then hacve picked up the fix for the source to be able to migrate out to the much newer target which the fix is about
[10:07] <cpaelzer> jamespage: complex and certainly needs to be tested on the target environment, but might be the way to go without downtime
[10:07] <cpaelzer> zioproto: ^^
[10:10] <zioproto> cpaelzer: thanks ! But I think it is too much work :) We have like 1000 VMs in our cloud
[10:10] <zioproto> making this mass live migration before the upgrade sounds terrible
[10:10] <zioproto> and arcimboldo_ already upgraded everything to mitaka
[10:14] <arcimboldo_> yes, I actualy asked in the original bug if there was a way to fix for intsances that have the bug now
[12:35] <jamespage> zioproto, so far as I'm aware there is no requirement for jewel
[12:35] <jamespage> zioproto, that said we do only test mitaka with jewel
[14:38] <mrtAkdeniz> Howdy!
[14:38] <mrtAkdeniz> how can I set the default permission, I mean if a new file created on that folder, it should have same permissions
[14:58] <ndboost> hey folks whats the inverse of -z in a conditional
[15:03] <ndboost> nvm its -n
[15:03] <rbasak> ndboost: "man test" is pretty handy for that.
[15:03] <ndboost> thx
[15:04] <rbasak> (rather than digging through the shell documentation, etc)
[15:04] <ndboost> i just relied on good ol'e google lol
[16:07] <xnox> jamespage, at cdo core sprint; agreed with rbasak to remove the cloud archive from the archive.
[16:07] <jamespage> xnox?
[16:08] <jamespage> not quite sure what that means
[16:08] <xnox> what i mean is that i want to move ubuntu archive keyring from the stand alone package into src:ubuntu-keyring and highjack the old package name
[16:08] <xnox> and ship the cloud archive keyring as a the key fragment in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ (similar to ppas and the ubuntu-archive keys from zesty)
[16:08] <xnox> without using apt-key
[16:09] <xnox> and without injecting those keys into /etc/apt/trusted.gpg as that is now redudnand in the new world order of zesty
[16:09] <xnox> so, can i highjack ubuntu-cloud-keyring into ubuntu-keyring?
[16:09] <xnox> or do you want to keep it as separate source?
[16:10] <xnox> ubuntu-keyring already has archive and cdimage keys; and i hope to add cloud-archive, cloudimg (verification keys), ddebs keys
[16:11] <xnox> all in one source, with multiple binary packages as needed.
[16:11] <xnox> jamespage, does that make sense?
[16:11]  * xnox feels like i should create a bileto ppa with all the diffs I am trying to land.
[16:14] <xnox> on a more important note, that ubuntu-keyring has migrated to key fragments. thus it's simple dpkg managed install/remove files in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d (! not conf-files)
[16:14] <xnox> rather than have postinst scripts that depend on gpg and manipulate things.
[16:14] <xnox> currently in zesty we only require gpgv now, as gpg is no longer a required package.
[16:48] <coreycb> beisner, jamespage: hi can you promote magnum 3.1.1-1~cloud0 to newton-updates for bug 1632743
[17:07] <neubi> how can i allow a website located in ~/website/index.php on ubuntu 14.04 server
[18:23] <beisner> hi coreycb - magnum released to newton-updates
[18:38] <hallyn> man neubi was in a hurry.  didn't get a chance to point him/her to https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/httpd.html
[19:30] <nwilson5> was having issues with what I thought were my database, but turns out to be an issue with sorting in ubuntu 16.04 vs 14.04.
[19:30] <nwilson5> sorting a file of international text (2M lines) with: `LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" sort /tmp/utest1.txt > test`
[19:30] <nwilson5> takes 10 minutes on ubuntu 16.04, and 20 seconds on ubuntu 14.04
[19:31] <nwilson5> 14.04 build has eglibc 2.19. 16.04 has glibc 2.23
[19:31] <sarnold> heh, the one feels comically too long, the other feels comically too short :)
[19:31] <nwilson5> neither has a problem if it's sorted using collate "C"
[19:32] <nwilson5> the lines are all < 40 characters each
[19:35] <nwilson5> this chan seems dead compared to #ubuntu :| maybe I should ask there.
[19:36] <teward> nwilson5: patience is also a virtue
[19:36] <nwilson5> teward, perhaps, just scrolling up it appears less active than #ubuntu. A fair assessment.
[19:37] <nwilson5> not saying no one would every respond. Just perhaps I should've been asking there to begin with.
[19:37] <nwilson5> ever*
[21:16] <tsukasadt> I know this is better for #mysql, but noone is answering in there. Does anyone know how to enabled the MySQL logs to record executed queries, not just the prepared queries?
[21:27] <EvilAngel> I have been avoiding asking for help with this but I can't find a real solution anywhere. For months and now every day (to the point of being nearly unusable) I get the dreaded !caled_font-cache_frozen failed error when I launch any gtk apps. Is there a solution? I've deleted nearly everything in my .cache and .config dirs and ran fc-cache -r and manually deleted all font caches. Anything I'm
[21:27] <EvilAngel> missing?
[22:18] <Walex> EvilAngel: usually that happens when there are missing glyphs, adding more fonts with wider character sets usually helps.
[22:19] <Walex> EvilAngel: it is a bug in font handling code, but happens only with some fonts and not others.
[22:20] <Walex> Walex: also try this: https://gist.github.com/alechko/b1e9436b5a2507c50224
[22:23] <EvilAngel> Walex: thank you. I installed all the ttf-* pkgs
[22:24] <EvilAngel> I think that might help, as it's what I just read another person did to fix it. I wish this bug would bug off, cause ti's been around for ages
[22:28] <zigmasterhanni> Hi all, quick noob question: Can anyone point me in the right direction to correctly configure DNS servers to point my domain to my VPS?
[22:43] <stomplee> zigmasterhanni, what are you trying to accomplish?
[22:43] <stomplee> your question wasn't clear
[22:44] <stomplee> if you are just trying to configure client settings refer to this post:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/346838/how-do-i-configure-my-dns-settings-in-ubuntu-server
[22:44] <stomplee> if you are trying to configure a bind server, that is a whole other ball of wax
[22:46] <zigmasterhanni> stomplee, thanks for the link! I think that's all I needed
[22:46] <stomplee> yw


[16:27] <phillw> wxl: ping
[17:50] <phillw> be aware of bug 1559507
[19:22] <phillw> tsimonq2: can you check out the bug ^^, thanks
[22:54] <bipul> Hi tsimonq2