[21:20] <digirak> jrib: hey thanks can you also tell me how to install a working gcc compiler
[21:21] <jrib> digirak: installing build-essential should accomplish that
[21:21] <digirak> jrib: my compilation tells me that gcc is broken
[21:21] <digirak> jrib: i did that it still gives me the same issue
[21:21] <jrib> digirak: what issue exactly?
[21:21] <ubuntuCEO> if ubuntu cant boot in a laptop how do i look at the error code?
[21:22] <digirak> jrib:it says checking for cxx compiler, cxx compiler broken
[21:22] <lvidal> hello
[21:22] <Ma_Nick> My PC has Windows XP and Ubuntu(3 partitions, counting swap), and I can't post on forums with ubuntu! When I try with firefox, after clicking at Reply, I get a download request for forum.php. HAALP
[21:22] <digirak> jrib:gcc compiler broken
[21:22] <wr0ngway> Running 10.04.1, it has libxml-2.7.6, I need 2.7.7 to fix a bug, anyone got some pointers as to the best way to get just libxml2 2.7.7 from say Maverick?
[21:23] <KM0201> ubuntuCEO: usuallyif you hit escape, it will drop the splash screen, and let you see the system running.
[21:23] <gbear14275> wooter, is there anyway the lens that focuses could be the problem?
[21:23] <Pantaloonix> the best advice i can give is to not use libxml
[21:23] <wr0ngway> Pantaloonix: sorry, meant libxml2
[21:23] <lewix> !rar
[21:23] <ubuntuCEO> KM0201, it doesnt
[21:23] <jrib> digirak: you're likely just missing dependencies.  Do you have an issue compiling something you created yourself?
[21:23] <lewix> !info unrar-free
[21:23] <smw> !msgthebot > lewix
[21:23] <ubuntuCEO> KM0201, it stucks in the purple ubuntu screen
[21:24] <jrib> lewix: use unrar, unrar-free won't work on later rar files
[21:24] <KM0201> ubuntuCEO: is it the live cd, or an actual install?
[21:24] <Ma_Nick> Seriously, u guys...
[21:24] <mkquist_> Ma_Nick: does it work in another browser?
[21:24] <digirak> jrib: you mean compiling a helloworld program?
[21:24] <ubuntuCEO> KM0201, actual install
[21:24] <lewix> jrib, thats what i just found out =) thank you
[21:24] <jrib> digirak: sure
[21:24] <ubuntuCEO> KM0201, liveCD has no problem
[21:24] <digirak> jrib:i havent tried actually
[21:24] <digirak> i am guessing not, but i dont know
[21:25] <lefty_> mkquist i will try that
[21:25] <ubuntuCEO> KM0201, i suspect the hardrive of the laptop having problem
[21:25] <Ma_Nick> mkquis_, I tried chromium, but it partially work. I can't upload photos w/ chromium and it return error messages lots of times
[21:25] <KM0201> ubuntuCEO: then i would try adding quiet-splash to grub, so the splash doesn't come up, and watch for an error or soething
[21:25] <KM0201> ubuntuCEO: its possible
[21:25] <Ma_Nick> mkquist_, I tried chromium, but it partially work. I can't upload photos w/ chromium and it return error messages lots of times
[21:25] <lefty_> mkquist i will try that
[21:25] <ubuntuCEO> KM0201, but i can mount it in live CD and also i can instal ubuntu 10.10 in it but after it restarts, it doesnt load
[21:26] <mkquist_> Ma_Nick: trying to upload photos to the forum?
[21:26] <KM0201> ubuntuCEO: dunno, thats a weird one
[21:26] <thauriswulfa> anybody here know anything about command m-x dunnet
[21:26] <ubuntuCEO> KM0201, how to add quiet-splash in grub?
[21:26] <Ma_Nick> Yeah. Imageshack, forums... Also, all those problems just started after I reset my router. Is it just coincidence?
[21:27] <kstar66> not coincidence
[21:27] <patrunjel> guys, i'm on Ubuntu 10.10 and using Code::Blocks 10.05 .I don't know how many C++ programmers are here, but the new setting of codeblocks (to auto-add the closing brackets) is incredibely annoying...so can anywone help me get rid of it, please?
[21:27] <mkquist_> Ma_Nick: maybe dns server settings got bonked?
[21:27] <Dimen> hola
[21:27] <mkquist_> Ma_Nick: but if its just for one site, thats not it
[21:27] <gbear14275> being able to boot from USB is a BIOS function correct?
[21:27] <KM0201> ubuntuCEO: if you can boot recovery mode, you can do this... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1365229
[21:28] <KM0201> otherwise, you have to do it manually, and i'm not sure how to do that
[21:28] <gbear14275> or can you get grub to boot from a USB?
[21:28] <user567> ?
[21:28] <KM0201> gbear14275: if the BIOS can boot USB.. i can't think of any reason grub couldn't be installed to usb
[21:28] <user567> hi , how can i get the uncompressed verstion of the linux kernel image
[21:29] <kstar66> is anyone else here running a modified version of the jolicloud platform on a netbook?
[21:29] <gbear14275> KM0201, what about the other way around?  If BIOS CAN'T boot to USB, could grub be configured to recognize a USB drive as a boot option?
[21:30] <lewix> !apache
[21:30] <KM0201> gbear14275: i've heard that it can.. but i'ev never done it.... i would ask that in #grub
[21:30] <Snakkah> Can anyone here tell me where the application icons are stored? Like, one that you would use for creating a custom launcher?
[21:30] <hardbop200> hey all! my wife has agreed to let me replace xp on her netbook w/ ubuntu (yay!), but she has an iphone and uses itunes. am I screwed, or is there a solution out there for this?
[21:30] <gbear14275> KM0201, thanks
[21:31] <hardbop200> is it just as simple as installing itunes via wine?
[21:31] <DJones> !itunes | hardbop200
[21:31] <royale1223> lewix: hi
[21:31] <kstar66> hardbop200 : Yes
[21:31] <patrunjel> can anywone please tell me a C++ programmer's channel? I have a important question (linux related, somehow) ...please? :)
[21:31] <hardbop200> kstar66: thanks. I just don't want her to loose all of her music b/c of me ;)
[21:32] <stefan1a> patrunjel: c++
[21:32] <fritz007> hi
[21:32] <stefan1a> patrunjel: /join c++
[21:32] <jrib> hardbop200: i think it's supposed to "just work".  I doubt you'll have much luck with itunes, but you can check appdb.winehq.org.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[21:32] <hardbop200> jrib: thanks, I'll check that out. appreciate the tip!
[21:32] <CoinOperational> So Im running ubuntu 10.10 and trying to open a program in wine. Acts like its loading but the program never starts. Any advice?
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> stefan1a, you need # or possible two ## for the c++ channel.  patrunjel
[21:33] <fritz007> i have a proble i dont know how to conetc my wireles card in usb on ubuntu 10.10
[21:33] <fritz007> im using ubuntu a day
[21:33] <stefan1a> ZykoticK9: I don't o.O
[21:33] <lewix> are the instrustions on how to install apache up to date. I don't see ubuntu mavericks
[21:33] <patrunjel> it worked, thaks guys :)
[21:33] <StevenSX> I go to change the persions on a windows .exe file so it will work with Wine and I keep getting an error due to Read-only file system. ?
[21:33] <cal_> X crashes randomly after installing 10.10 .. however when running just the LiveCD it is very stable. not sure what to check for?
[21:33] <StevenSX> permissions even
[21:33] <jrib> lewix: it's the same, just use apt-get to install the apache2 package
[21:33] <stefan1a> patrunjel: np :)
[21:34] <digirak> jrib: c compiler seems ok
[21:34] <lewix> jrib, thank you. can you enlighten me with the different version of ubuntu. im a lil bit confused
[21:34] <stefan1a> okay, I'm trying to install my nvidia drivers, and I'm on step 2 (following this tutorial: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/how-to-install-nvidia-25635-display.html)
[21:34] <lewix> the mavericks is supposedly the most recent, right
[21:34] <royale1223> lewix: try this http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/04/installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[21:34] <stefan1a> however, I'm getting the following error when I do that
[21:34] <stefan1a> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.35-25-generic (i686)
[21:34] <stefan1a> can someone help?
[21:34] <jrib> lewix: maverick is the latest stable release, yeah (they're in alphabetical order now: karmic, lucid, maverick (natty is in development))
[21:34] <StevenSX> How do I fix an error whenever I try to change file permissions that says "Error setting permissions: Read-only filesystem"
[21:34] <hardbop200> final question: which one do most Ubu users prefer, UNR 10.04 or 10.10?
[21:34] <fritz007> help pls my wireles how to make it that comp see it ?
[21:35] <lewix> jrib, ok thank you
[21:35] <StevenSX> I prefer Ubuntu 10.10
[21:35] <lewix> royale1223, thank you
[21:35] <royale1223> 10.10
[21:35] <jrib> hardbop200: use 10.04 if you want long term support (3 years on desktop, 5 on server), 10.10 otherwise
[21:35] <hardbop200> thanks all, appreciate everyone's help!
[21:35] <KM0201> fritz007: what version of ubuntu and what wireless device
[21:36] <fritz007> wezion is 10.10
[21:36] <yoyoned> StevenSX: Wher is the file you are tring to change
[21:36] <royale1223> lewix: youre welcome. are you trying to set up a lamp?
[21:36] <KM0201> fritz007: ok, and what wireless device
[21:36] <fritz007> wireles is smc usb smc2662w
[21:36] <stefan1a> can someone help?
[21:36] <StevenSX> It is a windows .exe file for a game.  It is located on a CD and I am using wine to launch it.
[21:36] <cowbob> hey guys
[21:36] <lewix> royale1223, right
[21:37] <StevenSX> I cannot change the permissions on it to executable like I normally do.  Keep getting a read-only file system response kind of error when I try
[21:37] <Halkus> I'm not very experienced in Ubuntu/Bash.... I'm trying to run a script but I can't since I don't have permission. And I can't seem to chmod because I don't have permission to do that. My account is an administrator
[21:37] <yoyoned> StevenSX: you can not change a file on a CD, but it deos not have to be executable for winr to run it
[21:37] <jrib> Halkus: what script?
[21:37] <stefan1a> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.35-25-generic (i686); does anyone know what this means/how can I get around it? I get it whenever I try to install my nvidia gfx card driver. using 10.10.
[21:37] <royale1223> lewix: i'm new to lamp too. just set one up. good luck.
[21:37] <StevenSX> yoyoned: Why won't it autorun or allow itself to setup then?
[21:37] <Halkus> Adaptec storage manager
[21:37] <ubuntuCEO> is the checkdisk command - sudo fsck.ext3 -f /dev/sdaX or sudo fsck -r /dev/sda ??
[21:37] <StevenSX> When I try to run it...I get the is not executable error...
[21:38] <Halkus> jriib - I'm following the directions here http://www.adaptec.com/weblog/?p=15
[21:38] <wiw> so i installed my wireless card's driver with an ethernet cable, and now i can't connect via ethernet... any ideas where to start
[21:38] <wiw> ?
[21:38] <digirak> hey is there a script to build the kde environment on ubuntu?
[21:38] <yoyoned> StevenSX: open the Cd in nautalis, right clikck on the file, open with wine
[21:38] <FalsAlarm> i accidently erased my apache error log file and now that even though I recreated it, it doesn't work anymore
[21:38] <FalsAlarm> nothing gets appended to it
[21:38] <royale1223> Halkus: do you have a root password?
[21:38] <Halkus> Yes
[21:38] <StevenSX> I do that. I get the must change permissions to be executable message
[21:38] <rww> FalsAlarm: restart apache
[21:39] <StevenSX> It tells me that I must mark it as executable.
[21:39] <BluesKaj> wiw. reset your network manager to eth0 and dhcp
[21:39] <lewix> royale1223, do you know what version of apache and php is installed with the command you i saw on the link you gave me?
[21:39] <FalsAlarm> rww, yes that worked, thanks
[21:40] <jrib> Halkus: are you sure you want to use this?  There isn't a way to accomplish what you want with software that's already in ubuntu or available through the repositories?
[21:40] <yoyoned> StevenSX: I guess your stuck then because you cant change the permissions of a file on a CD.
[21:40] <royale1223> Halkus: does your current account belng to sudoers group?
[21:40] <Halkus> There isn't jrib, as far as I know
[21:40] <CoinOperational> So I need to get a program to run  for school. Ubuntu 10.10, right click on the .exe to run with wine windows program loader, and it doesnt load.  Any advice?
[21:40] <Halkus> I'm not sure royale1223 , I'll see if I can work that out
[21:40] <jrib> Halkus: what does it do?
[21:40] <jrib> digirak: well you can install the kde environment if that's what you want
[21:40] <royale1223> lewix: apache2 and php5
[21:40] <lewix> royale1223, thanks how did you find out
[21:41] <digirak> yes
[21:41] <Halkus> jrib - It's a storage manager for my RAID card. Adaptec produce Linux binaries, but not a specific one for Ubuntu
[21:41] <wiw> BluesKaj: I deleted and recreated the ethernet connection profile, is that what you meant? because thats not working
[21:41] <Halkus> royale1223: - I don't know how to find out if I;'m part of a particular group... I have checked and I am an administrator... which should mean everything?
[21:42] <digirak> jrib: how do i install the kde environment
[21:42] <jrib> Halkus: ah I see. Well which step are you stuck on in the link you gave me?  Or are you installing it in a different way?
[21:42] <RaidSoft> Why is everything minimizing when I press the letter "d" when I remote in through vnc? (10.10 desktop) (I am also using xrdp though, might be related)
[21:42] <jrib> !kde | digirak
[21:42] <GaLaXY_> Halkus: just use id
[21:42] <digirak> jrib: as in the whole pacakage
[21:42] <osvaldo> hola
[21:42] <Pokit> Hello.  Every time I run an update, grub-mkconfig is run and stomps over the changes i've made to grub.cfg.  Is there any way to prevent this from happening?
[21:42] <royale1223> lewix: try apache2 -v and php5 -v
[21:42] <yeats> !kde | digirak
[21:42] <Burzmali> Hello everyone, does anyone know if there is a way to create something like a symlink to the various locations in /media that CDs mount to in ubuntu 10.10?
[21:43] <royale1223> Halkus: try sudo -i from terminal
[21:43] <Halkus> jrib - I've got hold of the rpm, I've used alien to change it into a debian package, and I've installed the debian package
[21:43] <yeats> digirak: sorry - I was viewing scrollback ;-)
[21:43] <digirak> oh awesome
[21:43] <jrib> Halkus: ok, and now?
[21:43] <yoyoned> Pokit: make your changes to the files in the /etc/grub.d folder
[21:43] <CoinOperational> New to ubunutu. So I need to get a program to run  for school. Ubuntu 10.10, right click on the .exe to run with wine windows program loader, and it doesnt load.  Any advice?
[21:43] <Halkus> jrib - Now I want to run the scripts it's created
[21:43] <fritz007> can i get help ?
[21:43] <Halkus> sudo -i just seems to move me to a different directory
[21:43] <GaLaXY_> CoinOperational: sudo chmod +x foo
[21:43] <Pokit> yoyoned: thanks, ill try that out'
[21:43] <yoyoned> !grub2|Pokit
[21:44] <digirak> ubottu: Thanks buddy will check this out
[21:44] <yeats> !appdb | CoinOperational
[21:44] <htedrom> hi all, having problems logging in to my account on the forums.... every time I log in sends me to the "thank you for logging in" redirect page, then spits me back to the log in screen
[21:44] <CoinOperational> Thank you
[21:44] <guntbert> fritz007: simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[21:44] <GaLaXY_> Anyone else having trouble with Cairo-dock in fluxbox?
[21:44] <jrib> Halkus: well sudo -i logs you in as root.  But how are you trying to run the scripts (just paste the line) and what's the output
[21:44] <royale1223> Halkus: so you are in sudoers group
[21:44] <induz> how can I automount my iPod touch
[21:44] <GaLaXY_> i cant seem to enable transparancy with cairo-dock on fluxbox with compmgr. it works fine in openbox
[21:45] <ThomasB2k> How do I take my GPG keys and settings with me when I upgrade Ubuntu?
[21:45] <GaLaXY_> would this be a fluxbox related issue?
[21:45] <Halkus> bash: ./StorMan.sh: Permission denied
[21:45] <BluesKaj> wiw. which connection do you intend to use permanently , wifi or ethernet ?
[21:45] <fritz007> what mus i click that i can find my wireles usb card smc2662w and set up wireles. im using 10.10 ?
[21:45] <jrib> ThomasB2k: you don't have to do anything (though you should have backups regardless).  I assume you are upgrading through update-manager
[21:45] <jrib> Halkus: ls -l StorMan.sh
[21:45] <ThomasB2k> @jrib: no, when I do a fresh install
[21:45] <lewix> royale1223, thanks
[21:45] <yeats> ThomasB2k: back up your /home (or install /home on a separate partition so fresh installs don't clobber it)
[21:46] <wiw> BluesKaj: I mostly use wifi, but I'd like it to prefer ethernet when it's connected. I've done this before I reinstalled Ubuntu.
[21:46] <Halkus> -rwxrwx--- 1 root root 5218 2010-08-06 04:33 StorMan.sh
[21:46] <induz> what is iFuse?
[21:46] <ThomasB2k> yeats: is that the only way?
[21:46] <induz> how can i install it on Lucid lynx
[21:46] <jrib> ThomasB2k: take ~/.gnupg/ with you
[21:46] <BluesKaj> wiw. run sudo dhclient in the terminal
[21:46] <Halkus> chmod: changing permissions of `StorMan.sh': Operation not permitted
[21:46] <royale1223> Halkus: try sudo ./StorMan.sh
[21:46] <htedrom> hi all, having problems logging in to my account on the forums.... every time I log in sends me to the "thank you for logging in" redirect page, then spits me back to the log in screen >> is my account disabled? how would I know this? I'm sure I haven't broken the ToS or anything, do accounts get deactivated due to inactivity? my last post was probably quite a few months ago
[21:46] <GaLaXY_> exit
[21:46] <ThomasB2k> Okay jrib and yeats, thank you
[21:46] <lewix> royale1223, the link you gave me is pretty straight forward. thank you, ubuntu.com might want to update their apache installation page mirroring this website
[21:46] <Halkus> BINGO
[21:46] <jrib> Halkus: is this some gui application?
[21:46] <Halkus> Thanks royale1223 and jrib  :)
[21:47] <Halkus> Yes it is and it works
[21:47] <ubuntuCEO> what is fsck -pcfv ?
[21:47] <_raven_> how to decompress a zip using tar?
[21:47] <erUSUL> ComradeHaz`: e1000 is a network nic driver, yes
[21:47] <Burzmali> Okay, is a symlink isn't possible, is there a way to go back to mounting CDs to a generic folder instead of a named one?
[21:47] <ComradeHaz`> thanks erUSUL, I am so close but yet so far.
[21:47] <yeats> Halkus: try #ubuntuforums
[21:47] <guntbert> !tar | raven_
[21:47] <jrib> Burzmali: isn't /cdrom what you want?
[21:47] <royale1223> lewix: but i installed lamp using the old guide, didnt find the new one till later
[21:48] <_raven_> how to decompress a zip using tar?
[21:48] <yeats> htedrom: try #ubuntuforums
[21:48] <Halkus> Yeats - It works. The sudo command to run the script was all I needed. It all works now
[21:48] <ComradeHaz`> I think I am still getting errors caused by something to do with this issue.
[21:48] <htedrom> thanks yeats
[21:48] <yeats> Halkus: sorry - mean that for htedrom
[21:48] <lewix> royale1223, so you struggled huh
[21:48] <lewix> =)
[21:48] <Burzmali> jrib: Nothing every mounts there, only in a subfolder of /media
[21:48] <jrib> _raven_: you don't use tar, you use "unzip"
[21:48] <fritz007> how to install windows driver ?
[21:48] <DodgeThis> Hi people i'm doing  a raid 1 system   but i have a doubt on spare disk
[21:48] <DodgeThis> can anyone help me
[21:48] <wiw> BluesKaj: dhclient output > http://paste.ubuntu.com/560378/
[21:48] <royale1223> royale1223: nah just used apt get
[21:48] <jrib> Burzmali: I see.  I guess you have to mess with udev scripts.  My *guess* is: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules
[21:49] <Halkus> jrib - ASM is Adaptec Storage Manager which is used to administer all Adaptec arrays - add drives, verify/fix, swap out drives, assign hot spares etc. It's pretty essential for using an Adaptec RAID card on a server
[21:49] <royale1223> lewix: nah just used apt get
[21:49] <DEAD_BEEF> jrib, I'm not having any luck with the resize handle. I've googled for hours and this is all I've been able to come up with: GtkStatusbar::has-resize-grip = 0
[21:49] <_raven_> jrib, no unzip on that machine
[21:49] <royale1223> lewix: installed fine
[21:49] <stefan1a> can someone please help me? I'm trying to install an NVIDIA graphics card driver. My screen resolution is really low atm. I've tried several things; I keep getting errors when I try to install it with gdm closed. Also, when I try to install it from the Additional Drivers menu, I get the error "SystemError: installArchives() failed". help please.
[21:49] <DEAD_BEEF> jrib, I checked the link you gave me without luck
[21:49] <jrib> _raven_: install it?
[21:49] <BluesKaj> wiw. looks  like you're connected
[21:49] <Halkus> Next question is how do I add this StorMan.sh script as a menu option in Gnome?
[21:49] <wiw> BluesKaj: i should mention my ethernet cable is connected, but i haven't seen it flashing any little lights, and it doesn't seem like ubuntu is recognizing it, at all
[21:50] <_raven_> jrib, no option to do it with tar?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> stefan1a: try:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[21:50] <jrib> Halkus: right click on the ubuntu icon, create a new launcher, use « gksudo /path/to/StorMan.sh » (use the actual path)
[21:50] <BluesKaj> wiw. run ifconfig
[21:50] <jrib> _raven_: depends on what you mean by "zip file"
[21:50] <DodgeThis> i have two disks on raid 1 what kind of formation does de spare disk mus have???
[21:50] <DEAD_BEEF> any theme wizards have a minute to give me a hand?
[21:50] <Halkus> Hmm. Ubuntu icon....
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Halkus: copy it to /usr/bin   then use alacarte to make a launcher for it (you don't need the file extension, but it doesn't hurt to have it)
[21:50] <stefan1a> ActionParsnip: tried it a thousand times, gives the error Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.35-25-generic (i686)
[21:51] <royale1223> Halkus: right click on yor panel > add to panel > custom app launcher
[21:51] <wiw> BluesKaj: ifconfig output > http://paste.ubuntu.com/560382/
[21:51] <Dead_Storage> this is my first time on irc, can spmeone just sort of explain how things work
[21:51] <jrib> Dead_Storage: you just ask your question and hope someone knows the answer :)
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> stefan1a: do you have an older kernel you can boot to?
[21:51] <Halkus> royale1223: panel?
[21:51] <stefan1a> ActionParsnip: not sure
[21:51] <jrib> !who | Dead_Storage
[21:52] <royale1223> Halkus: the bar on top
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> stefan1a: hold shift at boot and try to select an older kernel if you have on
[21:52] <erUSUL> Dead_Storage: in this channel you just ask your question in one line and wait till someone answers you
[21:52] <BluesKaj> wiw. sudo etc/init.d/networking restart , you should see some action on your router/modem
[21:52] <kendrickLeiter> Desktop wireless desktop card WAS working; switched wireless cards to DLink; did not work. Switched back to Linksys, and now original card is not working. Possibly not mounted?
[21:52] <Halkus> I'm in a wizard to create a new Main Menu item - I think that's where I want to be
[21:52] <stefan1a> ActionParsnip: when, specifically, at boot?
[21:52] <Halkus> The path to the script is /usr/StorMan$ sudo ./StorMan.sh
[21:52] <wiw> BluesKaj: eth1 there looks like my wireless adapter (that's the one where i set it to bound to a static ip address on my router, *.1.112)
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> stefan1a: as soon as the system POSTs
[21:52] <Dead_Storage> !who | jrib is that how you do it
[21:52] <jrib> Halkus: no, use: gksudo /usr/StorMan/StorMan.sh
[21:52] <stefan1a> ActionParsnip: I'll try it. hold on.
[21:53] <jrib> Dead_Storage: not quite, just write "jrib: " at the beginning, no "!stuff"
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Halkus: make a launcher to run: gksudo /usr/StorMan/StorMan.sh
[21:53] <Dead_Storage> jrob oh ok
[21:53] <wiw> BluesKaj: you mean restarting my router? is that possible to do via terminal?
[21:53] <BluesKaj> wiw. correction /etc//init.d/networking restart
[21:53] <Dead_Storage> jrib oops lol
[21:53] <mkquist_> Dead_Storage: if you start typing then hit tab, should auto the name for you
[21:53] <jrib> Dead_Storage: on most clients you can just type the beginning of a nick, like "jr", and then press TAB to have it completed
[21:53] <wiw> i cant restart the router atm, i'm not the only one on it...
[21:54] <Halkus> I now have a launcher item (I think that's what it is, in Windows I'd call it a shortcut) which after taking my password launches the Storage Manager
[21:54] <BluesKaj> nope wiw , that just restarts the networking daemon
[21:54] <Halkus> Thanks :)
[21:54] <Dead_Storage> mkquist_, oh cool, thanks guys
[21:54] <quizme> how do i check if my HD is about to crash?
[21:54] <lewix> royale1223, i see. well im done installing it. seems like so far so good
[21:54] <wiw> so i'm going to disconnect from here, i assume. alright, brb XD
[21:54] <ComradeHaz`> quizme: smartmontools
[21:55] <digirak> ubottu: hey can u give me the package name that needs to be installed for the build environmen t
[21:55] <Dead_Storage> so is this better than the forums for support?
[21:55] <quizme> ComradeHaz` tyu
[21:55] <nexeh> I have no sound in Ubuntu 10.04. Hardware shows up in sound preferences but nothing under input or output tabs. this was working previously and is something i most likely messed up... i could use some help. i have attached useful info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/560302/
[21:55] <ComradeHaz`> yw
[21:55] <lewix> do you know a good package to monitor the cpu - and fan
[21:56] <lewix> that I can instal =)
[21:56] <lewix> install*
[21:56] <lewix> me is smiling at jrib
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> nexeh: what is the output of:   wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh      Thanks
[21:56] <wiw> BluesKaj: all it said was "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1." and it still doesn't seem to recognize my ethernet cable.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> !sensors
[21:56] <VCoolio> lewix: conky can show any output, but look at lm-sensors
[21:57] <lewix> VCoolio, okay cause my laptop is very noisy. and it heats up very fast
[21:58] <mrmist> Dead_Storage: irc is not really  better or worse than forums, it's just different.  The real time element is useful for some things and less so for others.  If you have a question, you should just go right ahead and ask it :)
[21:58] <wiw> BluesKaj: it isn't possible to reset all internet preferences and configurations by any chance, is there?
[21:58] <wiw> *network preferences and configurations
[21:59] <durandald> Hi all!
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> hi durandald
[21:59] <nexeh> wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[21:59] <nexeh> Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2375ab41dff8a7b6d3783686106342dee1e572d4
[21:59] <durandald> I cannot see my screen
[22:00] <nexeh> ActionParsnip: Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2375ab41dff8a7b6d3783686106342dee1e572d4
[22:00] <BluesKaj> wiw , I'm not much good on the wifi aspect of networking due to the complexities  for ethernet, take a look :http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[22:00] <rami1983> hey, the update manager keeps asking me if i want to update certain thing which i habe already removed or unchecked
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> nexeh: get your ALSA upgraded to 1.0.23  http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/    it may help
[22:01] <nexeh> ActionParsnip: Ok i can do that now
[22:01] <wiw> BluesKaj: thanks, i appreciate the help!
[22:02] <feyd> I know totem can be integrated with chromium, but can mplayer replace totem for the browser?
[22:02] <BluesKaj> wiw. it's agood tutorial...helped me a lot
[22:03] <mkf00> http://xkcd.com/323/ Balmers Peak
[22:03] <mkf00> probably the best xkcd ever :)
[22:03] <tommylommykins> hi, Is there a shortcut key to get a terminal?   ALT+F2 gnome-terminal    seems a bit tedious
[22:03] <aeon-ltd> feyd: yeah, mplayer does have a web plugin, i'd assume you could just disable one and install and enable the other
[22:03] <aeon-ltd> mkf00: ot
[22:03] <erUSUL> tommylommykins: alt + f3
[22:03] <mkf00> tommylommykins there are various programms for a shortcut terminal
[22:03] <mkf00> you can install guake
[22:03] <mkf00> or yakuake
[22:03] <tommylommykins> but none default?
[22:03] <mkf00> Guake is Gnome
[22:03] <feyd> aeon-ltd: I tried that with no luck so far, totem is gone but nothing lists in the browser as a substitute
[22:03] <mkf00> no
[22:04] <mkf00> sudo apt-get install Guake
[22:04] <aeon-ltd> feyd: is it installed?
[22:04] <dfenz> greetings. anybody know if there is a way to resolve ip from ip?
[22:04] <feyd> aeon-ltd: yes, let me check what packages I do have just to confirm
[22:04] <dfenz> greetings. anybody know if there is a way to resolve ip from ssid i mean
[22:04] <aeon-ltd> lol 1 person netsplit :)
[22:04] <g_o_o> tommylommykins: ctrl alt t
[22:04] <feyd> aeon-ltd: I have mplayer, gnome-mplayer. mencoder, and gecko-mediaplyer
[22:05] <feyd> aeon-ltd: do I need another front end like smplayer or something?
[22:05] <tommylommykins> \0/
[22:05] <tommylommykins> Thanks :D
[22:05] <aeon-ltd> feyd: no you shouldn't, but some searching now has shown you may need to completely remove totem
[22:06] <feyd> I thought I did, i'll check that too
[22:06] <dfenz> greetings. anybody know if there is a way to resolve ip from wlan ssid?
[22:06] <Mathuin> I need to install some packages from Natty on my Ubuntu Netbook Edition.  How do I do this?  I'm in a class on Arduinos, and the stuff in the repo didn't work. :-(
[22:06] <feyd> aeon-ltd: only totem remnant that remains is libtotem-plparser17, which is needed for brasero
[22:07] <Dead_Storage> Does anybody know how to add your external ip too conky?
[22:07] <aeon-ltd> feyd: then sorry, i've no idea
[22:07] <feyd> Dead_Storage: can't you use a txt file and scape it from a site?
[22:07] <feyd> aeon-ltd: thanks anyway
[22:07] <lvidal> can i install 10.10 on an intel mac mini?
[22:08] <fetinho> (0_0)
[22:08] <Munchkinguy> My ODT file appears to be corrupted and I cannot open it. Any suggestions? OS is Ubuntu. Openoffice 3
[22:08] <aeon-ltd> !mac | lvidal
[22:08] <dfenz> greetings. anybody know if there is a way to resolve ip from wlan ssid?
[22:08] <feyd> Dead_Storage: I wrote a small PHP file using the $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']; function, then I use wget to grab the ip, write it to a txt file locally, so I think conky can read that
[22:08] <lvidal> thanks
[22:08] <Dead_Storage> feyd, well i looked online and it told me to use wget in conkyrc but that didnt work
[22:08] <Mathuin> Can someone point me at how to install Natty packages on UNE 10.10?  It's kinda urgent as I'm in a class. :-(
[22:08] <feyd> Dead_Storage: do  you have webspace to try my suggestion?
[22:09] <fetinho> C>
[22:09] <Dead_Storage> feyd, yeah
[22:09] <aeon-ltd> Mathuin: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:09] <Mathuin> aeon-ltd: thanks!
[22:09] <feyd> Dead_Storage: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733959D should help with the conky implentation portion
[22:09] <Dead_Storage> feyd, thanks

[22:11] <feyd> Dead_Storage: yep, I had trouble with wget too, so be sure and do it like this:  wget -Oip.txt http://domain.com/ip.php - the no space after O, that threw me off
[22:11] <TheAnarchist> I have an alienware, originally I had 2 SSDs in RAID, but now they are separate for some reason? is there a way I can fix that through Gparted?
[22:12] <Halkus> Next problem... I'm trying to edit a config file with nano and I get permission denied
[22:12] <Dead_Storage> feyd, oh when i looked it up the tutorial told me to do it with whatismyip.com and it didnt work
[22:12] <TheAnarchist> anybody?
[22:12] <erUSUL> Halkus: sudo nano file
[22:12] <jrib> !sudo | Halkus
[22:12] <Ma_Nick> tyyyu
[22:12] <Dead_Storage> feyd, but that may have been why
[22:13] <feyd> Dead_Storage: yea that's a way to do it, but i think it's too much to sort through, a PHP file with just that function will give you just the IP so you don't need to filter it out, seemed easier to me
[22:13] <Halkus> Ah, so I need to use sudo to do it
[22:13] <Halkus> I see
[22:13] <BlueBomber7> TheAnarchist: Softraid or on a hardware controller?
[22:13] <Halkus> ubottu:  Thanks, that worked
[22:13] <TheAnarchist> No idea
[22:14] <TheAnarchist> not a pro at all this.
[22:14] <BlueBomber7> TheAnarchist: Do you know if it was internal or external RAID?
[22:14] <TheAnarchist> How would I know?
[22:14] <TheAnarchist> Internal
[22:14] <TheAnarchist> the SSDs are inside the laptop
[22:15] <BlueBomber7> So they were *probably* in a hardware-controlled RAID.  What failed?
[22:15] <thebootroo_> hello
[22:15] <BlueBomber7> Errr, how and when did you first notice the failure?
[22:15] <TheAnarchist> Thats a giant story
[22:15] <thebootroo_> how can i make my nvidia 9600 detect my flat screen in hdmi ?
[22:16] <DurvalSnakeUS> Please, anyone may help me? I'm trying to compile the Arago (  an overlay for Angstrom ), but I'm getting an ftp error in coreutils do_fetch(). My connection is behind a proxy and I set all path variables and tried many things but no one works. For help, follow the Path: http://pastebin.com/j0NJeDnH  and Error: http://pastebin.com/cUSETk6t .Thanks
[22:16] <TheAnarchist> Umm, one of the SSDs had an issue..
[22:16] <BlueBomber7> Also, TheAnarchist, what level of RAID?
[22:16] <TheAnarchist> 0 I think
[22:16] <TheAnarchist> 99% sure
[22:18] <thebootroo_> help pls
[22:18] <Halkus> How do I find out what the root password is?
[22:18] <TheAnarchist> Yeah, I had 512GB Raid 0 (2x 256GB Samsung Solid State HDDs)
[22:18] <erUSUL> Halkus: ubuntu has none
[22:18] <erUSUL> !root | Halkus
[22:18] <thebootroo_> with nvidia 270 driver or with nouveau i can't get the hdmi out work (it doesnt see my external screen) please help me
[22:19] <TheAnarchist> But the 512gb raid split
[22:19] <Halkus> But I need to log into Adaptec Storage Manager as root
[22:19] <BlueBomber7> "Split"?
[22:19] <Munchkinguy_> If I sent my corrupted ODT file to someone, could they try to extract the data?
[22:19] <TheAnarchist> and I have 2 250gb drives showing
[22:19] <BlueBomber7> Are both drives showing up?
[22:19] <TheAnarchist> idk how
[22:19] <TheAnarchist> yes
[22:19] <BlueBomber7> Oh ok.
[22:19] <BlueBomber7> Munchkinguy_: Yes, ODT is compressed XML if I recall correctly.
[22:19] <BlueBomber7> Munchkinguy_: The data inside will be unobfuscated; it's an open format.
[22:20] <BlueBomber7> TheAnarchist: Have you seen how palimpsest shows the drives?
[22:20] <BlueBomber7> You can check the health and other things with that tool
[22:21] <Parady> irc://irc.deviantart.com:6667/#DeviousDeadlines
[22:21] <WA0UWH3> To set the Root passwd, type "sudo -i" then provide your passwd when required, then type "passwd" then provide a new root passwd.
[22:21] <Flannel> WA0UWH3: Please don't recommend that here.  There's zero reason to set a root password.
[22:21] <thebootroo_> has anyone here a nvidia card ?
[22:22] <skiwithpete> hi - I've setup a minimal install with XFCE - I want to install bluetooth, what packages am I meant to get?
[22:22] <skiwithpete> and is there a resource where I can find this information
[22:22] <WA0UWH3> Don't agree
[22:22] <Halkus> erUSUL: I enabled root... and I'm now able to create arrays in ASM
[22:22] <botcity> !ask | thebootroo_
[22:22] <Halkus> erUSUL:  I understand why it's disabled by default, but Adaptec didn't take that into account :p
[22:22] <erUSUL> Halkus: huh?
[22:23] <erUSUL> Halkus: i see ; your choice
[22:23] <Halkus> You said there was no root, and gave me a link which explained why, and at the bottom it explained how to enable root
[22:23] <erUSUL> Halkus: if you enabled it then you know the password
[22:23] <Halkus> There was none until I created it
[22:23] <Halkus> But yeah, I know it now
[22:23] <Munchkinguy__> Ergh.
[22:23] <Flannel> Halkus: It wasn't that there was none, it was locked.
[22:24] <Flannel> WA0UWH3: You're welcome to personally disagree, but do not recommend it in this channel.  The official Ubuntu policy is to keep the root account locked, please don't recommend otherwise in this channel.
[22:24] <Halkus> I don't recommend it. I think it's a good idea to keep it locked
[22:24] <Halkus> I have no choice though, in order to use Adaptec Storage Manager and create arrays I need to log into it as root
[22:24] <WA0UWH3> OK, agree
[22:24] <Flannel> Halkus: And sudo doesn't work?
[22:24] <Halkus> It;'s a GUI login
[22:25] <BlueBomber7> The root account *should* be locked (for most users).
[22:25] <thebootroo_> i have a laptop with ubuntu 10.10 32bit with nvidia 9600M GT and nvidia driver 270, and a eeebox with ubuntu 10.10 32bits with a ION LE (so nvidia 9400)    with nouveau driver,  and no one sees my flat panel wuth hdmi but both see it in VGA so how can i fix HDMI please ?
[22:25] <Flannel> Halkus: You use gksu for graphical admin stuff (or kdesu if you're using KDE)
[22:25] <Munchkinguy__> As I was saying before my computer crashed, I have a corrupted ODT file that I cannot open. Does anyone know how to extract the data from the file?
[22:25] <BlueBomber7> Munchkinguy__: I just told you.
[22:25] <royale1223> Halkus: try gksudo
[22:25] <Halkus> All ASM presents you with is a dialog box with username and password, and all you can do is log in as root or log in as a guest with no privs
[22:25] <BlueBomber7> Munchkinguy__: If Openoffice/Libreoffice can't salvage it, gunzip it and take a peek inside
[22:25] <digirak1> hey guys
[22:26] <digirak1> i have installed the kubuntu desktop
[22:26] <Flannel> Halkus: Ah.  Alright.  That sounds like just a broken program then.  Yeah, you likely need one for that then.
[22:26] <Some_Person> I need an ubuntu user on amd64 to test a repo I just put together. Any volunteers?
[22:26] <Halkus> It's not designed for Debian/Ubuntu, I had to use alien to get it to work
[22:26] <rmcmahon> Hi
[22:27] <biiter> hello. i want to install laptop-mode-tools but aptitude tells me that it installit lapto-mode-tools will remove pm-utils and acpi-support yet laptop-mode-tools recommends pm-utils.. is this reasonable solution?
[22:27] <rmcmahon> I have a bash shell question
[22:27] <nsd> Hey people
[22:27] <BlueBomber7> Munchkinguy__: Also, I should not that if it's so corrupted as it can't be gunzip'd, then you should check to see if Open/Libreoffice created an automatic backup somewhere.  If you didn't have that option enabled before, you should know about it ;)
[22:27] <thebootroo_> i have a laptop with ubuntu 10.10 32bit with nvidia 9600M GT and nvidia driver 270, and a eeebox with ubuntu 10.10 32bits with a ION LE (so nvidia 9400) with nouveau driver, and no one sees my flat panel wuth hdmi but both see it in VGA so how can i fix HDMI please ?
[22:27] <edbian> rmcmahon, what's up?
[22:27] <BlueBomber7> !ask | rmcmahon
[22:27] <share> hello ubuntuers
[22:28] <Flannel> biiter: Probably not.  Are you mixing repositories or anything funky like that?
[22:28] <nsd> anyone know the name of the gnome screen reader? I'm using a machine hooked up to a rather small NTSC color television, which sucks bigtime for my eyes
[22:28] <erUSUL> orca ?
[22:28] <erUSUL> !info orca
[22:28] <nsd> oh sorry
[22:28] <nsd> not the reader
[22:28] <biiter> Flannel: no.. i just installed and updated maverick 10.10
[22:28] <nsd> the magnifier
[22:29] <botcity> thebootroo_:  did you boot the computer with the display attached?
[22:29] <rmcmahon> I'm trying to put echo -e into a bash sctipt so I can use the \n char but it's including the -e in the echo which is throwing things off
[22:29] <issoy> i have a sun ultra 5 workstation that i would like to put ubuntu on. the cpu is an UltraSPARC IIi. i downloaded the 64 bit ubuntu server 10.10 but when i say "boot cdrom" it says "bad magic number in disk label"
[22:29] <Flannel> biiter: Odd, because yes, you're right, laptop-mode-tools recommends pm-utils.  I'm not sure why it would try and remove those packages.
[22:29] <thebootroo_> botcity: no
[22:29] <botcity> rmcmahon:  there's a bash channel
[22:30] <thebootroo_> botcity: only the eeebox
[22:30] <erUSUL> rmcmahon: you are using /bin/sh ?
[22:30] <rmcmahon> erUSUL: yes
[22:30] <nsd> rmcmahon:try printf
[22:30] <erUSUL> rmcmahon: dash echo sees to not support -e. use printf
[22:31] <magellan> w
[22:31] <erUSUL> rmcmahon: or use /bin/echo if you insist
[22:31] <thebootroo_> ok work with the other hmdi input of the tv
[22:31] <rmcmahon> nsd: erUSL: I'll try that
[22:31] <biiter> Flannel: well. i have laptop obviously.. what should i do then? i want it to last longer on battery
[22:31] <Flannel> biiter: Try `sudo apt-get install pm-utils acpid acpi-support laptop-mode-tools`
[22:31] <biiter> ok
[22:31] <biiter>  pm-utils : Conflicts: laptop-mode-tools but 1.52-1ubuntu2 is to be installed
[22:32] <nsd> so does anyone know what I could use for a magnifier?
[22:32] <botcity> thebootroo_:  i had to boot with the display attached for ubuntu to set up drivers properly at least on my set up works fine now!
[22:32] <magellan> Does any one know how to setup a thunderbird to read mail from a ubuntu /var/mail log files.or some idea how to?
[22:32] <issoy> anyone has suggestions/tips about installing on SPARC?
[22:32] <erUSUL> !sparc
[22:33] <zykes-> anyone here on natty?
[22:33] <biiter> Flannel: pm-utils : Conflicts: laptop-mode-tools but 1.52-1ubuntu2 is to be installed
[22:33] <stefan1a> okay, I forget who, but earlier, someone told me to go to an earlier kernel version and type sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. That made my monitor turn black, and a bunch of blinking lines started flashing across it. Nothing improved/changed. Back on current kernel version. Any advice? Trying to install nvidia graphics card driver.
[22:33] <zykes-> and that has tested nxserver
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> zykes-, #ubuntu+1 is the channel you want ;)
[22:33] <zykes-> ZykoticK9: sorry ?
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> zykes-, natty in #ubuntu+1
[22:34] <Halkus> Thanks for the help I've had in this channel this evening... my array is now creating
[22:34] <Dead_Storage> stefan1a, when you use the command "make" try "make clean"
[22:34] <Dead_Storage> stefan1a, *durring install
[22:34] <stefan1a> Dead_Storage: what? I never used the word make in the terminal
[22:35] <stefan1a> i just typed sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[22:35] <stefan1a> doesn't work in this kernel version, though (keeps giving me an error if i try it here)
[22:36] <Dead_Storage> stefan1a, oh I wasnt sure because i had trouble installing some drivers and was told to use make clean, you installation steps must be diffrent
[22:36] <stefan1a> Dead_Storage: what drivers? gfx?
[22:36] <Dead_Storage> stefan1a, that and wireless
[22:37] <stefan1a> hm.
[22:37] <stefan1a> well, rats
[22:37] <stefan1a> my resolution is still stuck to 800x600
[22:37] <stefan1a> stuck at*
[22:37] <stefan1a> what's the standard driver that comes with ubuntu? it's like nouveuo or something, right?
[22:37] <induz> what is FUSEPOD??
[22:38] <pcypher> any suggestions on a decent tutorial for setting up snmp for a beginner?
[22:38] <ChogyDan> stefan1a: yeah, something like that, maybe nouveau
[22:39] <Seveas> pcypher, step 1: go to the pharmacy, buy a lot of aspirin.
[22:39] <induz> how to setup GTKPod on Lucid, i am having hard time mounting my iPodtouch
[22:39] <Seveas> step 2: stick to snmp v2c unless you want to deal with even more madness (v3)
[22:39] <pcypher> seveas: ive been coming to find...
[22:39] <induz> can anyone help me
[22:40] <magellan> Does any one know how to setup a thunderbird to read mail from a ubuntu /var/mail log files.or some idea how to?
[22:40] <|Long|> have anyone here run glftpd on ubuntu OS?
[22:40] <induz> I have some pics on this ipod touch and i want them on my Linux
[22:40] <pcypher> seveas: im trying to get cacti going, I can pull basic info from hosts, but I need to get snmp for net monitoring
[22:40] <botcity> nsd: if you go to keyboard shortcuts there is key bindings for magnifier
[22:41] <nouse> induz: Sounds like support for iOS in gtkpod is pretty experimental. You need a jailbroken iPod.
[22:41] <Dead_Storage> Is it still impossible to sync a zune hd in linux
[22:41] <nouse> induz: Might give this a try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[22:42] <stefan1a> I need some help installing nouveau.
[22:42] <erUSUL> people just have to stop buying apple stuff if they want to use it in somethying that is not an apple
[22:42] <Seveas> pcypher, install snmpd, set syslocation/syscontact in snmpd conf and work yourself through the cacti "add host" pages
[22:42] <induz> nouse, I dont want to jailbreak it now as i have to save thos epics first
[22:42] <stefan1a> whenever I try to install nouveau, I get the error: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.35-25-generic (i686)
[22:42] <stefan1a> Please advise
[22:42] <erUSUL> i.e. if they want to really own their stuff ...
[22:42] <Seveas> pcypher, maybe add a few "disk" entries
[22:42] <Seveas> (to snmpd.conf)
[22:42] <ChogyDan> stefan1a: maybe pastebin all the output including the commands you ran
[22:42] <stefan1a> Ok ChogyDan
[22:42] <BlueBomber7> True, erUSUL
[22:42] <pcypher> I have disk, mem usage and user count for the local host up and running
[22:43] <Phase> Anyway I can turn brightness up on just one window? (a game that doesn't have brightness settings), using the fglrx (sp) ati radeon drivers
[22:43] <Dead_Storage> can you sync a zune in linux
[22:43] <Seveas> !search zune
[22:43] <pcypher> syslocation is set to sitting on the dock of the bay...
[22:43] <BlueBomber7> Phase: I don't know about using the driver, but perhaps with your window manager?  I know compiz allows per-window HSB settings....
[22:44] <craigbass1976> !webcam
[22:44] <Phase> BlueBomber7: Hmm, what would I need to get at that compiz setting?
[22:44] <stefan1a> http://pastebin.com/8RH9aKza ChogyDan
[22:44] <[[n1x]]> anyone using xfce 4.8?
[22:44] <induz> nouse, I read that site  and installed all required library to communicated with iPod but my device fails
[22:45] <induz> Even GTKPod fails to load my Device[ipod touch]
[22:45] <ChogyDan> stefan1a: wait, why are you trying to install nauveau?
[22:45] <pcypher> seveas: is there a command to see which version of snmp I have installed and runnig... cannot find in the man page
[22:46] <pcypher> nevermind\
[22:46] <stefan1a> ChogyDan: just built myself a new comp w/ new gfx card (NVIDIA). NVIDIA driver hasn't been able to install yet (keep getting various sorts of errors). Screen resolution is stuck at 800x600 on 1280x1024 monitor. Kinda sucks :(
[22:46] <nouse> induz: Sorry, that's all I can think to try
[22:46] <pcypher> version 5.4.2 but cacti only has up to version 3
[22:46] <pcypher> >>>>]
[22:46] <pcypher> ????
[22:47] <gimpy4613> Ubuntu 10.10 x64, for some reason random hard drives will lose their GTP table.  It's only one drive at a time, but not the same drive each time. It's not any one port, controller, cable, or drive causing it.  Just a random one. Logs show no cause, these drives are in an LVM VG used as a datastore, no OS storage on them.  Ideas?
[22:47] <LeDutch> Mornin gents.
[22:47] <Munchkinguy> BlueBomber7: I am going to try recovering the backup file using photorec before I do anything else.
[22:47] <Phase> BlueBomber7: Found it, CompizConfig Settings Manager. Thanks :) going to play with it now
[22:48] <gimpy4613> pcypher: Then you are running net-snmp verison 5.4.2 which supports SNMP versions 1, 2c, and 3....
[22:48] <ChogyDan> stefan1a: yeah, but nouveau is installed by default, so Im curious how it got uninstalled.  Do you know?
[22:48] <pcypher> gimpy: cool... thank you.
[22:48] <stefan1a> ChogyDan: not sure, I might have uninstalled it by accident while trying to install the new driver
[22:49] <feyd> I'm using an openbox session, how can I style QT apps?
[22:49] <ChogyDan> stefan1a: ok, I guess I would start with removing nvidia-current
[22:49] <stefan1a> ChogyDan: When I first started my comp, the resolution was fine, but the driver was having trouble installing... a few terminal commands and reboot later, and the resolution was shot down
[22:49] <stefan1a> ChogyDan: doing that now.
[22:50] <LeDutch> Looking at whacking Ubuntu or similar on to a Dell Inspiron 1525.... Smart to do so, or terrible idea noob?
[22:50] <stefan1a> ChogyDan: okay, nvidia-current is removed. What now?
[22:50] <EnrgySmth> hi :)
[22:50] <gunndawg> LeDutch, sure, why not?
[22:51] <LeDutch> Desktop version, or does the netbook version work better on laptops?
[22:51] <LeDutch> gunndawg, Cause its about a million years old.
[22:51] <ChogyDan> stefan1a: you may want to just reinstall to start from scratch.  Otherwise you have to try installing the driver again, and dig into the error message more
[22:51] <stefan1a> ChogyDan: reinstall what?
[22:51] <stefan1a> ubuntu?
[22:51] <ChogyDan> yea
[22:52] <coldfront> LeDutch it really doesnt matter all the netbook ver has is the Netbook interface
[22:52] <EnrgySmth> quick question - does ubuntu 10.10 benefit from use of the preload package?  anyone using it and want to share?
[22:52] <coldfront> they are pretty much both the samething
[22:52] <gunndawg> LeDutch, well, worth a try I guess, cant hurt anything
[22:52] <stefan1a> I'm considering that, just because of the complexity of this >_>
[22:52] <stefan1a> I'm not a gamer, anyway
[22:52] <LeDutch> coldfront, which would be of no use on this laptop. So I guess I'll get the desktop version. Cheers :)
[22:52] <stefan1a> I just want a usable resolution
[22:52] <coldfront> yeah i have a tablet with the netbook installed
[22:53] <stefan1a> so, uh... how do I reinstall ubuntu?
[22:53] <stefan1a> ;x
[22:53] <coldfront> works wounders
[22:53] <coldfront> but if you just have a laptop i would go with the desktop ver
[22:53] <ChogyDan> LeDutch: I think the netbook addition uses more resources, you should try lubuntu if it is really low resource
[22:53] <Dead_Storage> stefan1a, why cant you just go to monitor settings?
[22:53] <stefan1a> Dead_Storage: it says that it can't detect my monitor
[22:53] <stefan1a> and it's stuck at 800x600
[22:53] <EnrgySmth> !preload
[22:53] <coldfront> stefan1a take the ubuntu disc and format reinstall?
[22:54] <pcypher> lol... snmp error in cacti
[22:54] <LeDutch> ChogyDan, The laptop is running *shudder* Vista at the moment. So should be ok to handle normal ubuntu. I'd hope.
[22:54] <chaospsychex> omg vista
[22:54] <Dead_Storage> stefan1a, oh that sucks, for some reason sometimes mine will detect an "unknown" monitor even tho i dont have anything there and it will put stuff on it its really annoying
[22:54] <ChogyDan> LeDutch: yeah.  The netbook addition is more about screen space than resources
[22:54] <pcypher> probably should have backed up the orig config
[22:54] <LeDutch> Ahh ok. Cool.
[22:55] <pcypher> i need to find a cacti irc
[22:55] <digirak> hey
[22:55] <chaospsychex> hey
[22:55] <digirak> i have installed the kdesktop
[22:55] <digirak> i want to know what to do now to install the build environment
[22:56] <Dead_Storage> does anybody know why ubutu would randomly detect an "unknown monitor" even tho i dont have anything connected. It does this to me quite often and will attempt to put programs on it, its an easy fix but i was wondering if there is a way to prevent it from happening
[22:57] <ChogyDan> !build-essentials | digirak
[22:57] <digirak> what is this ! signify in packages?
[22:57] <Halkus> Hmm, I've blundered through creating a Samba share, but when I connect to it through Windows, it forces me to login, and the only working login is root.... how do I get around that?
[22:58] <ChogyDan> !factoid | digirak
[22:58] <wiw> So I downloaded what i believe is an executable shell file (truecrypt setup), but when i try to run it by './file' or 'sudo ./file' it doesn't work...
[22:58] <ChogyDan> digirak: it just means it is a factoid
[22:59] <digirak> thanks ChogyDan
[22:59] <Phase> I changed a setting in compiz, now everytime I log in the screen is black.. I can get to the gdm login, but after that I can't do anything. It was the brightness settings.. any ideas?
[22:59] <feyd> Anyone know how I can style QT apps? I'm using openbox and they're not being converted like ubuntu normally does
[23:00] <Dead_Storage> can someone help with my monitor issue
[23:00] <erUSUL> !dosentwork  | wiw
[23:00] <erUSUL> !doesentwork  | wiw
[23:00] <erUSUL> !details | wiw
[23:01] <wiw> sorry, i should have mentioned, i know i'm typing the correct path, but if i run './file' i'm getting permission denied, and by running 'sudo ./file' it says command not found.
[23:02] <feyd> Dead_Storage: whats the issue
[23:02] <erUSUL> wiw: chmod +x file; ./file
[23:02] <feyd> Dead_Storage: nvm, reading
[23:02] <wiw> erUSUL: thanks! that worked.
[23:03] <LeDutch> Download speed from steam: 40kb/s. Download speed from Ubuntu.com : 80mb/s
[23:03] <feyd> Dead_Storage: whats your setup for monitors? I know you don't have a 2nd, but are you using VGA, DVI?
[23:03] <wiw> usually, do these executable setup files install straight to the folder they are currently in?
[23:03] <digirak> guys
[23:03] <Dead_Storage> feyd, I am actually on a laptop toshiba l505 s5988
[23:04] <erUSUL> wiw: do not think so,
[23:04] <Dead_Storage> feyd, it has a vga
[23:04] <digirak> i wanted to know whether I could just install all the dependencies for the build environment of kde using a single package
[23:04] <feyd> Dead_Storage: it has to be related to outputting to an external monitor, maybe it's just defaulting to that
[23:05] <feyd> Dead_Storage: what video drivers are you using, nouveau? nvidia?
[23:05] <Dead_Storage> feyd, it happens at random times tho
[23:05] <feyd> Dead_Storage: oh, hmm
[23:06] <ChogyDan> digirak: I think just build-essentials and apt-get build-dep
[23:06] <Dead_Storage> feyd, and i havent really messed with the video drivers
[23:06] <feyd> Dead_Storage: I really dont know a ton about video, but you could try doing a xorg conf from scratch instead of auto
[23:06] <feyd> Dead_Storage: its a huge undertaking from what I understand though
[23:07] <digirak> so does one have to go over the whole build with the kde standard
[23:07] <Dead_Storage> feyd, i think i can just deal with it then, all i have to do to fix it is go to my monitor settings
[23:07] <ChogyDan> digirak: I don't know, sorry.  What are you trying to do btw?
[23:08] <digirak> ChogyDan: i am trying to start kde development
[23:08] <digirak> ChogyDan: and i have to install dependencies
[23:08] <ChogyDan> digirak: you just want to use QT?
[23:08] <digirak> ChogyDan: apparently fedora has a single package install
[23:09] <digirak> no a lot of other dependencies
[23:09] <feyd> Dead_Storage: alright, sorry I couldnt be any help
[23:09] <feyd> Does anyone know anything about styling QT in GTK?
[23:09] <Dead_Storage> feyd, its fine thanks anyway tho
[23:10] <breV> i think i have a strange variation of Bug #615803 ... it freezes if the power cord IS plugged in. I am thinking gnome-power-manager package is the culprit. any ideas ?
[23:10] <BlueBomber7> breV: Does dmesg give you any useful info?
[23:11] <induz> how can i mount my iPod touch
[23:11] <breV> no
[23:11] <induz> wjat would be the /mnt directory
[23:12] <BlueBomber7> induz: You can specify it yourself in fstab, but once it's connected, it should auto-mount and the command 'mount' will tell you its mount point.
[23:12] <DominiCanes> need help with installing xamp
[23:12] <BlueBomber7> Probably somewhere in /media
[23:12] <DominiCanes> su/password
[23:12] <breV> if i try to uncheck the screen brightness checkbox in the screensaver ... 'instant' freeze
[23:12] <Munchkinguy> BlueBomber7: I'm using gzip on Windows. What should I attempt to do?
[23:13] <col0ur> sacarlson, hello. can you give me that modprobe | lpsci command again?
[23:13] <BlueBomber7> Munchkinguy: About your corrupted odt?
[23:13] <BlueBomber7> Munchkinguy: First, get out of Windows if you can :P
[23:14] <feyd> is it possible to install drop box to a different folder name?
[23:14] <Munchkinguy> BlueBomber7: I'm running photorec on my Ubuntu box. Can't use it
[23:14] <arbiter> @feyd yes simplu star
[23:14] <arbiter> @feyd start up drop box and use the preferences menu under the advanced tab
[23:14] <BlueBomber7> You'll have to remind me what you're trying to do, Munchkinguy
[23:14] <BlueBomber7> Let's PM.
[23:15] <feyd> arbiter: oh awesome, talk about a duh moment, thanks
[23:15] <induz> BlueBomber7,  here is the output of 'mount';http://paste.ubuntu.com/560405/
[23:16] <klys4> hello i have problem, when i type in terminal ./filename.bin I get bash:. ./filename.bin: No such file or directory | (but file is in this directory, and i have set chmod +x)
[23:16] <BlueBomber7> That's after the device has been mounted?  It doesn't look mounted to me.
[23:16] <YankeesFan> is there a program that can let me access my ti84+?
[23:16] <Serolos> hi
[23:17] <_java_> So, is there a way to control the GUI version of Ubuntu solely from keyboard without CLI?
[23:17] <spt_> can some tell me what --bind does when used with mount --bind /folder/...  /home/user .. thanks
[23:17] <feyd> other question, I want MPD to startup with the computer and continue playing where it left off, how can I do that?
[23:18] <Dead_Storage> feyd, maybe rember applications in the startup apps menu
[23:18] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, what type of file is it?
[23:18] <BlueBomber7> _java_: Yes and no.  I love me some keyboard shortcuts, too, and would love to ditch the mouse, but I don't think it's ENTIRELY kb friendly yet.  Feel free to correct me, others.
[23:18] <dw87> anyone know of any good htaccess tutorials?  I've found a couple googling around, but they're not very clear on where your .htaccess file goes, where your .htpasswd file goes, and the permissions that should be on said files
[23:18] <BlueBomber7> _java_: Apps like gnome-do help, though ;)
[23:18] <Serolos> Question:   how can I tell  /etc/hosts  to do a "wildcard"  redirect?   meaning:  NOT   "<IP_ADDRESS>   test.tld    www.test.tld"  ....  it should be more like    "<IP_ADDRESS>    *.test.tld"   since  EVERY request (meaning every subdomain typed)  shall be redirected to  <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:18] <feyd> Dead_Storage: I'd rather avoid session saving if possible, call me crazy
[23:18] <klys4> DEAD_BEEF it is executable file
[23:19] <Dead_Storage> feyd, yeah i dissabled that too lol, im not really sure other than that
[23:19] <BlueBomber7> klys4:  What's ls -al filename.bin give?
[23:19] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, a shell script? what language?
[23:19] <markoso> whats a good app to open rar zip etc
[23:19] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, what does file filename.bin give?
[23:19] <erUSUL> markoso: default file-roller
[23:19] <erUSUL> !rar | markoso
[23:20] <DominiCanes> 7zip
[23:20] <klys4> one second
[23:20] <induz> my Fstab is like http://paste.ubuntu.com/560408/
[23:20] <hiexpo> the system archiver works fine
[23:20] <markoso> the defualt does not work
[23:20] <col0ur> sacarlson, nevermind i found it
[23:20] <klys4> DEAD_BEEF ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[23:21] <induz> BlueBomber7, FsTab http://paste.ubuntu.com/560408/
[23:21] <induz> how can i change my FSTab so that I can get this iPod touch mounted
[23:21] <klys4> BlueBomber 7 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3513408 and file name in green color
[23:22] <biiter> where is the config for setting the hdparm -B for disk when i un/plug AC ?
[23:22] <DEAD_BEEF> kloeri, and you're sure it it's in .
[23:22] <gimpy4613> Ubuntu 10.10 x64, for some reason random hard drives will lose their GTP table.  It's only one drive at a time, but not the same drive each time. It's not any one port, controller, cable, or drive causing it.  Just a random one. Logs show no cause, these drives are in an LVM VG used as a datastore, no OS storage on them.  Ideas?
[23:22] <BlueBomber7> induz: fstab won't have changed unless you change it, as far as I know.  It doesn't look like it stores your ipod mount point.
[23:22] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, and you're sure its in .
[23:22] <erUSUL> gimpy4613: i would report it as a bug against the kernel
[23:22] <DEAD_BEEF> kloeri, wrong kl<tab>
[23:23] <induz> BlueBomber7, i am learning to change the FSTab, but so far i have not changed it... How can i change it so that i can mount my iPod/
[23:23] <klys4> DEAD_BEEF yes when i type dir i can see file here
[23:23] <hiexpo> does anyone one know how to make the gnome terminal colored like gentoos
[23:23] <klys4> DEAD_BEEF maybe i don't have some packages
[23:24] <gimpy4613> hiexpo: Just edit your terminal settings....edit-> profile settings
[23:24] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, where did you get the file from ?
[23:25] <gimpy4613> erUSUL: Can you explain a but more?  As in how I would go about doing this?
[23:25] <andrefreitas> Testing from android
[23:25] <hiexpo> gimpy4613, how will that make all the differant colors as when your say updateing
[23:25] <klys4> it's safe file and it work on other systems
[23:25] <erUSUL> !bugs | gimpy4613
[23:25] <Dead_Storage> are there any good games that run nativly on linux
[23:25] <erUSUL> gimpy4613: so « ubuntu-bug linux-image »
[23:25] <erUSUL> !games > Dead_Storage
[23:25] <klys4> DEAD_BEEF is other command to unpack it ?
[23:26] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, it is unpacked?
[23:26] <induz> How can i change my FStab so that my iPod touch gets mounted
[23:27] <lucas_> Hi everyone... Any suggestions on which virtualisation software to use to run windows 98?
[23:27] <TsGhInSaNe> runnin this
[23:27] <TsGhInSaNe> :o
[23:27] <TsGhInSaNe> HMU GIUZEEE
[23:27] <erUSUL> lucas_: virtualbox?
[23:27] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, is it actually a .bin file?
[23:27] <TsGhInSaNe> no
[23:27] <erUSUL> !vbox | lucas_
[23:27] <TsGhInSaNe> !hack tsghinsane
[23:28] <klys4> DEAD_BEEF yes it is bin file, I think i need some packets
[23:29] <barf> Anyone with experience from DELL EMC SAN?
[23:29] <^aDaM> Hii
[23:29] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, idk It sounds like its a self-extracting archive?
[23:29] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all, I have been trying to pxe boot a system all day and I seem to be 'so close and yet so far'. I am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto but alsoplenty of other guides but I can't seem to sort out the error I get with it not bringing up the network interface successfully. Is there anyone here now that can help me, please?!
[23:29] <gimpy4613> barf: We need more details on what your problem is.
[23:30] <ybin> I need urgent help
[23:30] <lucas_> ubottu: Thx! I already use it for win7. Seems there are no drivers for win98. Any solution to this?
[23:30] <^aDaM> On my iphone here not been on here for a bit long time no see x
[23:30] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, you could try: bash ./filename.bin
[23:30] <klys4> DEAD_BEEF i think i need compress package
[23:30] <barf> gimpy4613: I am about to assemble the DELL EMC SAN 3x or x3, but I have no clue to how it works
[23:30] <klys4> DEAD_BEEF when i type bash i have filename.bin: cannot eecute binary file
[23:31] <ybin> I I need help whejn installing the kernal
[23:31] <gimpy4613> barf: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?  This channel is for Ubuntu issues....
[23:31] <ybin> i get following error
[23:32] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, maybe try changing the owner of the file
[23:32] <Uragano2710233> !list
[23:32] <ybin> ALERT! /dev/desk/by-uuid/fxxxxxxx-xxxxxx doesnot exist droping to a shell
[23:32] <ybin> what does this mean
[23:33] <Uragano2710233> !list
[23:33] <Munchkinguy> Is there a way to deleted files from a specific directory?
[23:33] <ybin> how do u list
[23:33] <DEAD_BEEF> klys4, chown yourusername:yourusername file.bin
[23:33] <ybin> ??
[23:33] <erUSUL> exactly what it says. the disk grub/kernel ( i am guessing is grub or the kernel ) think it is root is not there
[23:33] <ybin> grub
[23:33] <erUSUL> Munchkinguy: rm /espcific/directory/file ?
[23:33] <gimpy4613> ybin: It means Ubuntu searched for one of your drives/partitions but it could not find it.  Remove the entry in /etc/fstab if you don;t need it to boot, or fix the drive/partition.
[23:34] <erUSUL> ybin: did you resized or moved or messed up with the paritions of your disk?
[23:34] <erUSUL> partitions*
[23:35] <Munchkinguy> erUSUL: No, I mean to restore deleted files
[23:35] <ybin> I dont know this is the first time I am installing the kernal
[23:35] <trithizz> hey would anyone know a good walkthru guide for installing ubuntu ?
[23:35] <ybin> generic has same code in grubb and it works
[23:35] <erUSUL> Munchkinguy: you used the gui? look in the trash folder. if you used rm they are gone
[23:35] <fabiosn> Why my video player freezes when I try to load the subtitles?
[23:36] <Munchkinguy> erUSUL: It was a backup file that the system automatically deleted.
[23:36] <ybin> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[23:36] <erUSUL> !undelete | Munchkinguy
[23:36] <erUSUL> ybin: is a custom kernel you buid yourself?
[23:38] <excelsior> trying to burn a few movies onto a dvd, keep ejecting DVD before burning saying "No parent could be found in the tree for the path". Is my encrypted file system at fault? What do I need to do too fix this?
[23:38] <ybin> yesyeah
[23:38] <ybin> yes
[23:38] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all, I have been trying to pxe boot a system all day and I seem to be 'so close and yet so far'. I am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto but alsoplenty of other guides but I can't seem to sort out the error I get with it not bringing up the network interface successfully. Is there anyone here now that can help me, please?! I think the critical error line is:
[23:38] <ComradeHaz`> "mknod: invalid number '/srv/netboot/nfsroot'"
[23:39] <Munchkinguy> erUSUL: Can any of these look through specific directories?
[23:39] <excelsior> trying to burn a few movies onto a dvd, keep ejecting DVD before burning saying "No parent could be found in the tree for the path". Is my encrypted file system at fault? What do I need to do too fix this?
[23:40] <excelsior> hello?
[23:40] <excelsior> hello?
[23:40] <excelsior> trying to burn a few movies onto a dvd, keep ejecting DVD before burning saying "No parent could be found in the tree for the path". Is my encrypted file system at fault? What do I need to do too fix this?
[23:40] <FloodBot2> excelsior: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:40] <gordonjcp> !repeat | excelsior
[23:42] <excelsior> trying to burn a few movies onto a dvd, keep ejecting DVD before burning saying "No parent could be found in the tree for the path". Is my encrypted file system at fault? What do I need to do too fix this?
[23:43] <gordonjcp> excelsior: stop it
[23:44] <gordonjcp> excelsior: what do you think pasting the same question over and over is going to achieve?
[23:44] <id10t> anyone else running ubuntu x64 with an ati gcard?
[23:45] <arbiter> does empathy let you use irc commands like /msg and /me? or is the syntax different?
[23:45] <id10t> ok is anyone running ubuntu x64?
[23:45] <gmg> I have a big problem with my bluetooth mouse...In suspend mode it doesn't wake up with mouse movement. Can someone help?
[23:45] <bazhang> id10t, please state your question
[23:45] <excelsior> gordonjcp: , in case someone who can answer my question missed it, well, maybe they'll see it if I post it again. Also, they'll know I'm still here paying attention and waiting for a possible response. Sorry to bug you.
[23:45] <erUSUL> id10t: me
[23:46] <hosting> ?
[23:46] <aurilliance> I'm installing XAMPP but I don't have the icon at /usr/share/icons/Tango/scalable/devices/network-wired.svg for the XAMPP control panel .desktop file. Where can I find this file?
[23:46] <klys4> what package name is for compressor ?
[23:46] <id10t> I am having memory leak problems with transmission and deluge, I am running x64  and have the latest ati drivers
[23:46] <bazhang> excelsior, using what software to achieve this
[23:46] <hellothere88> Offtopic I guess: Hi there. sorry if this is a bit off topic. I was just wondering if someone here knew how I could automatically sentd prewritten emails when a certain event happens. I know in gmail i can create filers, but the action to take after certain criteria are met are things like moving the mail to a folder and not replying. I basically would want something like "if(email subject contains words "blah1" and "blah2") rep
[23:46] <hellothere88> back with prewriteen email 05 . Thanks
[23:46] <bazhang> aurilliance, xampp is not supported, use lamp
[23:46] <id10t> anyone else having this issue?
[23:46] <bazhang> !xampp | aurilliance
[23:46] <excelsior> brasero and the default burner, (which seems to be the same, because they both give hte same result)
[23:47] <bazhang> excelsior, from avi or the like?
[23:47] <erUSUL> id10t: no memory leaks from deluge here ...
[23:47] <ybin> no i didnot resize
[23:47] <excelsior> .mkv files
[23:47] <id10t> erusul, are you experiencing memory leak issues with bittorrenting?
[23:47] <bazhang> excelsior, yeah, that wont work
[23:47] <erUSUL> no that i noticed
[23:47] <gmg> BIG problem with my bluetooth mouse...In suspend mode it doesn't wake up with mouse movement. Can someone help?
[23:48] <excelsior> what, compress them then?
[23:48] <induz> hello
[23:48] <bazhang> excelsior, you need to re-encode then burn
[23:48] <induz> still trying to figure out how to mount my iPod touch
[23:48] <gordonjcp> excelsior: don't repeat like every 30 seconds, though.  Every few minutes, maybe
[23:48] <induz> hey bazang
[23:48] <excelsior> well I'm not trying to get them to play on a dvd player, just be on portable media
[23:49] <id10t> erusual: both transmission and deluge start caching everything until my memory is full and the system crashes...
[23:49] <id10t> didn't have this issue with x86
[23:49] <erUSUL> id10t: well it does nothappen to me...
[23:49] <gmg> Looks like everyone here is also neewbies
[23:49] <theTrav> ok, so I've got rhythmbox going as the jukebox in the corner of our project room, currently we can ssh into the machine and control it using rhythmbox-client.  We've got a few BA's though and they don't like terminal.  Is there a way (apart from vnc) for them to have the GUI running on their windows boxes?
[23:49] <Nando> I just downloaded Ubuntu.
[23:49] <excelsior> so I'm trying to burn a data disk
[23:49] <Nando> But the wifi doesn't work, HELP>
[23:50] <theTrav> like, I've seen stuff that lets you have X send its stuff over the network
[23:50] <quizme> is there any good reason to upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04 ?
[23:50] <id10t> nando: what type of wifi card?
[23:50] <hellothere88> Any idea how to do what I asked? thanks
[23:50] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1662667 excelsior
[23:50] <someonelikeme> can any one explain why a manually created folder in the main menu suddenly changes name to alacarte-made-2... this is quite annoying and i am not allowed to rename it back
[23:50] <induz> iPod touch a1123 is not getting recognized on any of the Lucid programs
[23:51] <theTrav> like a way of attaching to a computer saying "I want to control this app X" and then that particular app is now sending and receiving input/output from the network ?
[23:51] <erUSUL> theTrav: Xwindows has network transparency built in
[23:51] <excelsior> bazhang: thanks for the link, but specifically, I'm not trying to make a playable DVD movie, I'm trying to make a data disk.
[23:51] <id10t> erusul: what version of deluge are you using?
[23:51] <excelsior> the data happens to be the movies
[23:52] <theTrav> erUSUL but can it pick individual apps for that?
[23:52] <erUSUL> id10t: i use a ppa is 1.3.1 in ubuntu 10.04
[23:52] <bazhang> excelsior, a data disk? ah right. I'd use gnomebaker then if brasero is having issues
[23:52] <gmg> How can I run a command at automatic startup which needs root access?
[23:52] <excelsior> The error says: "No parent could be found in the tree for the path".
[23:52] <Loshki> quizme: looking at the 10.10 release notes, I'd say there isn't much: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes
[23:52] <excelsior> ...
[23:53] <bazhang> induz, probably a PPA with a version of libgpod that can handle that version
[23:53] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all, I have been trying to pxe boot a system all day and I seem to be 'so close and yet so far'. I am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto but alsoplenty of other guides but I can't seem to sort out the error I get with it not bringing up the network interface successfully. Is there anyone here now that can help me, please?! I think the critical error line is:
[23:53] <ComradeHaz`> "mknod: invalid number '/srv/netboot/nfsroot'"
[23:53] <gmg> Good luck...no one here can help!!!
[23:53] <bazhang> !ppa | induz
[23:53] <chr0nos> I installed Adobe Reader 9.4 in Maverick but the plugin doesn't install in Firefox, the plugin works in Opera, but not Firefox, why?
[23:53] <theTrav> more importantly I suppose would be whether it can switch from working over the network to not working over the network
[23:54] <theTrav> like, having the UI attach and detatch from the running process or something
[23:54] <id10t> erusual: sorry what is a ppa?
[23:54] <excelsior> should I move the files to my root directory?
[23:54] <quizme> Loshki that's what i figured. thanks.
[23:54] <Nando> Hi
[23:54] <Nando> I RECEB
[23:54] <induz> bazhang, Thanks for helping me on this
[23:54] <id10t> nando: what type of widi card are you using?
[23:55] <bazhang> Nando, what?
[23:55] <Nando> I RECENTLY GOT UBUNTU I GOT ONTO THE "NET" LOGGED ON AND A NAKED WOMEN CAME UP.
[23:55] <Loshki> ComradeHaz`: what is the exact mknod line that produces this error? My first guess is the args to it are incorrect...
[23:55] <bazhang> Nando, stop that
[23:55] <id10t> bad nando!
[23:55] <id10t> dont make me get the newspaper
[23:55] <Nando> NO, SERIOUSLY, IT WAS HORRIFIC>
[23:55] <ComradeHaz`> Loshki: that is the complete line as far as I can see.
[23:56] <bazhang> id10t, please stop as well
[23:56] <gpc> !caps | Nando
[23:56] <ComradeHaz`> Loshki: Unless I missunderstand you...
[23:56] <id10t> ok...
[23:56] <LeDutch> I wanted to know what porn he found!
[23:56] <bazhang> LeDutch, keep it family friendly
[23:56] <chr0nos> I installed Adobe Reader 9.4 in Maverick but the plugin doesn't install in Firefox, the plugin works in Opera, but not Firefox, why?
[23:58] <Iamred> Hi.
[23:58] <ComradeHaz`> Loshki: certainly that is the first error.
[23:58] <Iamred> When I logged on Ubuntu, porn came up...
[23:58] <bazhang> Iamred, stop it
[23:58] <Iamred> What?
[23:58] <Iamred> A naked woman on a car...
[23:59] <afman> Does anyone happen to know how to go about installing a USB wireless card? I've got an Ubiquiti SRX 300 plugged into a PCMIA to USB converter and I can't get Ubuntu to detect it.


[12:40] <jrgifford> jandrusk: what graphics card?
[12:41] <jrgifford> my ATI card is really slow on oneiric, but it works wonderfully with precise. :)
[14:07] <jandrusk> jrgifford: Video card is Intel 915.
[14:09] <jrgifford> jandrusk: i'm not sure, but this should work - http://askubuntu.com/questions/39050/how-can-i-speed-up-unity-with-an-ati-card
[14:10] <jrgifford> the Unity in natty was a 1.0rc, oneiric is a 1.0 release, and then they skipped everything and went straight to 2.0 with precise in terms of speed and everything else in between.
[14:12] <jandrusk> So test with precise?
[14:15] <jrgifford> if you're going to test precise, don't download the nightly ISO, it was broken earlier. Download the beta snapshot. Or just wait until the RC.
[14:23] <jandrusk> Thanks. I'll just wait for the RC and will test in VM. I'm not eager to use HUD, so I may just end up sticking with Xubuntu for the long term.
[14:23] <_bbb> ive still no interest in unity
[14:24] <_bbb> i like how they are advertising gnome classic now
[14:24] <_bbb> its just like nothing ever changed heh
[14:24] <jandrusk> Will gnome classic work in Precise?
[14:24] <_bbb> so they say yeah
[14:24] <jrgifford> yeah, it does.
[14:25] <jandrusk> Out of the box, or does it require a hack?
[14:25] <jrgifford> heck, it works in oneiric too for crying out loud, but *nobody* bothers to look into it. :p
[14:25] <jrgifford> you need to install gnome panel, thats about it.
[14:26] <_bbb> yeah im running mint now but will give ubuntu another go after next release
[14:27] <_bbb> is it still gnome2 or no
[14:28] <jrgifford> gnome 3, but you still get your top panel bottom panel


[09:24] <mup> Bug #2028792 changed: DNS Match failures from magpie <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2028792>
[09:27] <mup> Bug #2028792 opened: DNS Match failures from magpie <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2028792>
[09:36] <mup> Bug #2028792 changed: DNS Match failures from magpie <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2028792>
[12:39] <mup> Bug #2028855 opened: Fail to configure Vault <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 3.4:Triaged> <MAAS 3.5:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2028855>


[06:40] <Kilos> morning all
[08:15] <paddatrapper> Morning Kilos
[08:15] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper
[09:54] <superfly> Morning Kilos, paddatrapper
[09:55] <Kilos> hi superfly
[10:56] <paddatrapper> Hey superfly
[14:37] <magespawn> good afternoon
[14:38] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[14:45] <magespawn> how goes it Kilos ?
[14:45] <Kilos> ok ty magespawn and there
[14:46] <magespawn> bit chilly today
[14:46] <magespawn> but otherwise all good
[14:55] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[14:55] <pavlushka> Hey magespawn
[14:55] <magespawn> hi pavlushka
[14:56] <Kilos> yes magespawn
[14:56] <magespawn> back
[14:57] <Kilos> wb
[14:59] <magespawn> computer locked trying to play a video file
[14:59] <Kilos> ouch
[15:01] <magespawn> very small pc aspire one, so not too surprising really
[15:04] <Kilos> physically small?
[15:04] <Kilos> or ram and performance small
[15:05] <magespawn> both
[15:05] <Kilos> whew
[15:06] <magespawn> but handy to carry every where
[15:15] <magespawn> thinking about getting a new machine, perhaps before the end of the year
[15:18] <Kilos> laptop?
[15:18] <Kilos> they are expensive things
[15:19] <Kilos> but if you hunt around you can get bargains
[15:19] <Kilos> ian paid 2.5k for this i5
[15:36] <magespawn> and it you wait for the specials then you can also get good deals
[16:48] <inetpro> Kilos: 2nd hand or new?
[16:48] <inetpro> good morning everyone
[16:49] <inetpro> 2.5K for an i5 sounds like a good deal
[17:19] <Kilos> rebuild inetpro
[17:20] <kulelu88> how do I undo an apt-get install dist-upgrade?
[17:32] <magespawn> no idea kulelu88
[17:32] <kulelu88> fek
[17:33] <Kilos> what broke kulelu88
[17:34] <kulelu88> I need to revert back to an older kernel
[17:35] <Kilos> cant you chose on booting in the grub menu
[17:35] <kulelu88> how do I access the grub menu on a remote server?
[17:36] <Kilos> oh my
[17:37] <magespawn> can you still access the computer?
[17:39] <kulelu88> yeah, everything works, I can ssh into it
[17:40] <kulelu88> I just need to undo my installs
[17:40] <kulelu88> although I am now just upgrading to 16.04
[17:40] <magespawn> i think there is a way that you edit grub manually to specifiy which kernel to use
[17:44] <superfly> Or uninstall the kernel you don't want
[17:47] <kulelu88> superfly: won't I need to uninstall everything the dist-upgrade installed?
[17:48] <inetpro> try booting with the old kernel first kulelu88
[17:48] <kulelu88> I have no idea how to boot remotely
[17:48] <inetpro> uh oh!
[17:49] <magespawn> you can do sudo shutdown now -r but only after you have specified the kernel to use
[17:50] <inetpro> should be relatively simple to change but I haven't done it since grub2
[17:50] <inetpro> I mean before grub2
[17:50] <superfly> Just uninstall the old kernel. Grub will rerun and you should be fine
[17:50] <magespawn> what does ubuntu use as a boot loader now/
[17:50] <magespawn> ?
[17:50] <inetpro> do what superfly suggests
[17:51] <superfly> Depends on the versions began the kernels of course
[17:51] <superfly> *between
[17:51] <kulelu88> let me try upgrading to 16.04 instead. LXD wasn't working before the dist-upgrade either
[17:52] <superfly> I'm busy getting kids to bed, I'll chat more about our when I'm done
[17:53] <superfly> *it
[17:53] <superfly> kulelu88: just hold on
[17:53] <kulelu88> alright, no problem. just reading up about upgrading LTS.
[17:54] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[17:57] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos, alo
[18:03] <nlsthzn> all well in ZA land I hope?!
[18:04] <Kilos> yip just winter again, how bout there
[18:05] <kulelu88> apart from the country gradually falling apart, all is well
[18:06] <nlsthzn> hot as hell but that is to be expected
[18:28] <magespawn> nlsthzn: i think that we are currently at the other end of that
[18:28] <nlsthzn> well the heat has to go someplace :p
[18:29] <Kilos> lol
[18:29] <magespawn> indeed and we have had a mild winter so far
[18:29] <Kilos> yeah but still eina cold
[18:30] <kulelu88> hot > cold
[18:32] <nlsthzn> can always put on more clothes, can't get more naked than naked
[18:32] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:33] <kulelu88> I disagree with that. There is only a certain amount of clothes you can wear before you become immobile
[18:33] <kulelu88> or before the clothes start tearing
[18:33] <Kilos> i agree
[18:34] <superfly> kulelu88: if you want to upgrade from release to release (or LTS to LTS) you need to use the do-release-upgrade command
[18:34] <kulelu88> superfly: I wanted to get LXD running on 14.04. I want to avoid systemd as best I can, but 14.04 is wonky with LXD
[18:35] <kulelu88> how is/was debconf? superfly
[18:35] <superfly> kulelu88: systemd is more hype than anything else.
[18:35] <superfly> kulelu88: good, tiring.
[18:35] <superfly> kulelu88: people really enjoyed it
[18:35] <kulelu88> its also bloatware superfly . linux shouldn't have such a large dependency . apparently you can remove it from debian jessie easily without breaking anything?
[18:36]  * nlsthzn still wants to check out some of the vids
[18:36] <kulelu88> I would have come for it, but cape town in winter ...
[18:37] <superfly> kulelu88: it was hardly winter
[18:37] <superfly> some cold nights, and 1 rainy day
[18:37] <superfly> "It was a very good DebConf... the best so far. (and Daytrip, Conference Dinner: I doubt some other DebConf could do better)"
[18:37] <nlsthzn> gents, I go sleep... have a good one
[18:37] <superfly> nlsthzn: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2016/debconf16/
[18:37] <Kilos> night nlsthzn
[18:37] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:38]  * superfly is in the process of putting them up on the site
[18:38] <nlsthzn> thanks superfly...
[18:38] <inetpro> good night oom Kilos
[18:38] <kulelu88> you tinkered with Devuan? superfly
[18:38] <kulelu88> what's the link to the debconf videos?
[18:38] <Kilos> i ssaid night to nlsthzn inetpro
[18:38] <superfly> kulelu88: negative
[18:38] <Kilos> keep up man
[18:38] <Kilos> hehe
[18:38] <inetpro> ah
[18:38] <superfly> kulelu88: the one I posted for nlsthzn
[18:38]  * inetpro would have loved to follow the conference, but...
[18:39] <kulelu88> that's download no? I want to stream it
[18:39] <superfly> inetpro: alweer in 'n dwaal
[18:39] <superfly> kulelu88: in Firefox that'll stream it
[18:39] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:39] <inetpro> there's just not enough time in a day
[18:39] <Kilos> nog steeds
[18:39] <inetpro> ai!
[18:43] <kulelu88> I guess I should upgrade to 16.04 and hope LXD works :D
[18:43] <kulelu88> superfly: is a rolling release better for servers or a stable?
[18:43] <superfly> kulelu88: don't use a rolling release on a server
[18:43] <superfly> kulelu88: stable or Ubuntu LTS
[18:44] <superfly> http://gizmodo.com/apollo-11s-source-code-is-a-surprisingly-hilarious-arti-1783415335
[18:44] <kulelu88> is there such a thing where you get a rolling release that releases stable features?
[18:44] <kulelu88> eg. a rolling release that releases stable kernel updates?
[18:48] <inetpro> server software should always be tried and tested extensively
[18:48] <Kilos> ok now i sleep. night all. rest well
[18:49] <Kilos> see you tomorrow
[18:49] <magespawn> good night Kilos
[18:49] <magespawn> now inetpro
[18:49] <inetpro> goeienag Kilos
[18:50] <inetpro> too late
[18:55] <kulelu88> superfly: are you guys using docker yet?
[18:56] <superfly> kulelu88: yes
[18:56] <kulelu88> what do you guys use for build automation?
[18:58] <superfly> Go-CD
[18:58] <superfly> http://go.cd/
[19:00] <superfly> we have containers running Go-CD, and then we mount docker's socket from the container back to the host machine so that the host machine does the actual builds, and then push the builds up to a repository
[19:00] <superfly> (very meta)
[19:06] <superfly> kulelu88: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2016/debconf16/systemd_in_Debian_a_status_update.webm
[19:48] <magespawn> i am also off to bed, good night all
[21:39] <kulelu88> I was going to watch that video just now superfly


[12:52] <stgraber> ogra: You may have received a mail from the tracker about a new build being available, please ignore :)


[02:28] <jfalco> anybody in here???
[03:43] <jfalco> Anybody here????
[07:15] <ara> morning all!
[09:00] <thekorn> hi, I would like to test jaunty on my 10'' eeepc, are there any special test cases for this kind of devices?
[09:01] <davmor2> thekorn: if it works
[09:01] <davmor2> thekorn: what are you testing on it unr
[09:02] <thekorn> unr?
[09:02] <thekorn> oh you mean this netbook remix
[09:03] <davmor2> thekorn: Ubuntu Netbook Remix yes
[09:03] <thekorn> well I just downloaded the desktop live cd, so I would like to start with this one, but can try UNR later
[09:04] <thekorn> or is a non UNR installation for such devices not officially supported
[09:05] <davmor2> thekorn: In that case just that it work.  Check wifi and bluetooth if it has it.  Other than that just that everything runs on it okay.  Make sure that windows don't go off the screen that kinda thing :)
[09:06] <thekorn> ok, so lets start
[09:06] <thekorn> thanks davmor2
[09:21] <thekorn> oh, ubiquity does not fit on the screen
[09:23] <davmor2> thekorn: That would be a bug a then :)
[09:27] <thekorn> yeah, /me checks if this one has already been filed
[09:29] <thekorn> it is, bug 325958
[09:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 325958 in ubiquity "Jaunty Alpha 4: Ubiquity windows does not fit on 1024x600 screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325958
[09:52] <thekorn> cjwatson, I can reproduce bug 325958 with todays daily, what kind of information (logs,...) is needed to push this one to triaged?
[09:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 325958 in ubiquity "Jaunty Alpha 4: Ubiquity windows does not fit on 1024x600 screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325958
[09:54] <cjwatson> thekorn: none, but I'm not sure it's a ubiquity bug
[09:55]  * cjwatson fixes the bug statuses to stop people whining incessantly on the bug
[09:56] <thekorn> hehe, ok, thank you
[09:56] <cjwatson> thekorn: it'd be interesting to know whether other applications have the same problem
[09:56] <cjwatson> i.e. same large font size, not necessarily failure to fit on the screen
[09:57] <thekorn> cjwatson, the font in the panel looks big, but let me check other applications
[09:59] <davmor2> cjwatson: It was one of the things I asked him to look out for :)
[10:00] <thekorn> cjwatson, the font in general looks big to me, and baoab is one of the other applications which does not fit on the screen
[10:00] <thekorn> baobab, strange name
[10:04] <asac> thekorn: high
[10:04] <asac> thekorn: so you see regression on eepc?
[10:04] <asac> fontsize wise?
[10:05] <thekorn> asac, hi, fonts are looking big to me
[10:05] <thekorn> and some applications do not fit on the screen
[10:08] <thekorn> asac, is there any kind of logs etc. I can help you with, and what is the master bug for this kind of issue
[10:09] <asac> thekorn: did this start today?
[10:09] <davmor2> asac: He is running a standard install on a netbook :)
[10:10] <asac> davmor2: yeah. thats good
[10:10] <thekorn> asac, don't know, my first live cd install of jaunty on this netbook
[10:10] <asac> thekorn: ok. wait a sec
[10:10] <thekorn> on intrepid everything looked fine
[10:11] <asac> thekorn: can you open gconf-editor?
[10:11] <thekorn> sure, it' open
[10:11] <asac> /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name
[10:11] <asac> what do you have there?
[10:11] <asac> also
[10:11] <asac> /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi
[10:11] <asac> also on terminal:
[10:11] <asac> xdpyinfo | grep resolution
[10:12] <thekorn>   /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name   sans 10
[10:12] <asac> ok
[10:12] <asac> and dpi?
[10:12] <thekorn>   /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi  <kein wert>
[10:12] <asac> 130?
[10:12] <asac> ok
[10:12] <asac> xdpyinfo?
[10:13] <asac> (resolution)
[10:13] <asac> so seems you dont see a regression from yesterdays upload
[10:13] <thekorn>  117x117 dots per inch
[10:13] <asac> rather you see the bug were trying to fix
[10:13] <asac> your daily build seems to not yet have our changes
[10:13] <asac> thekorn: please change the sans 10 to "sans 13.333px"
[10:14] <asac> is that better (in general)?
[10:14] <asac> its odd that your dpi has no value though
[10:17] <thekorn> asac, yes, 13.33px is looking better, but still ubiquity does not fit on the screen
[10:17] <cjwatson> thekorn: can I have a quick screenshot maybe?
[10:18] <thekorn> sure, just a bit
[10:19] <asac> thekorn: good
[10:19] <asac> in general fonts are not the way to make stuff fit on a small screen
[10:19] <asac> of course sudden huge fonts will make all tuning senseless. lets hope we can stick to the new "px" unit
[10:19] <asac> which is dpi sensitive
[10:22] <thekorn__> cjwatson: http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/11245/bildschirmfoto_8e7pk8.png
[10:27] <cjwatson> ok, it could be that some later bit of the UI doesn't fit
[10:27] <cjwatson> that certainly doesn't look unreasonably large
[10:28] <thekorn> oh, this is with font_name = sans 13.133px
[10:29] <asac> thekorn: you should also fix the window title font
[10:30] <asac> thekorn: /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_font -> 13.333px
[10:30] <asac> /apps/metacity/general/titlebar_font -> 10.666px
[10:30] <asac> /desktop/gnome/interface/document_font_name 10.666px
[10:30] <asac> /desktop/gnome/interface/monospace_font_name 10.666px
[10:31] <asac> thekorn: ^^
[10:31] <asac> those numbers are probably what we want in the end. if you could check them on your netbook that would be great
[10:32] <thekorn> ok, let me change this values
[10:33] <asac> thekorn: thanks. they wont help you much for the overall dialog size. but at least window titles and the terminal shouldnt be so huge anymore ;)
[10:35] <thekorn> asac, cool, everything looks better now, but the installer is still looking bad
[10:36] <thekorn> looks like they are using fixed sizes there
[10:36] <asac> thekorn: hmm. the screenshot didnt look that bad
[10:36] <asac> i mean the installer dialog
[10:37] <asac> thekorn: you have a screen of a bad fontsize in it?
[10:39] <thekorn__> asac: http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/11246/bildschirmfoto_1_o1tzqH.png
[10:40] <thekorn> "willkommen" in the header is now partly hidden
[10:40] <asac> thekorn: fonts are ok. the Wilkommen title probably is too big
[10:40] <asac> cjwatson: how do you set font size for that?
[10:40] <cjwatson> asac: I wasn't aware I did
[10:41] <cjwatson> ubiquity uses its own session implementation, but otherwise is just a glade application
[10:41] <asac> cjwatson: yeah. so that "Willkommen" is just a glade text widget?
[10:42]  * asac gets ubiquity
[10:42] <cjwatson>                 <property name="label" translatable="yes"><big><b>Welcome</b></big></property>
[10:42] <thekorn__> the title in pidgin chat windows is also too big: http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/11247/bildschirmfoto_2_J6obXK.png
[10:42] <cjwatson> so the <big/> will crank up the font size
[10:42] <cjwatson> weird that it's being misrendered like that though
[10:43] <asac> yeah. that should be ok
[10:43] <asac> i mean <big> hopefully does just add a factor to the absolute font size and doesnt mess up our dpi sensitive base
[10:44] <thekorn> for me it looks like the underlying vbox has a fixed size
[10:45] <cjwatson> well, it's then reset while doing translation
[10:45] <cjwatson>             if 'heading_label' in name:
[10:45] <cjwatson>                 attrs = pango.AttrList()
[10:45] <cjwatson>                 attrs.insert(pango.AttrScale(pango.SCALE_LARGE, 0, textlen))
[10:45] <cjwatson>                 attrs.insert(pango.AttrWeight(pango.WEIGHT_BOLD, 0, textlen))
[10:45] <cjwatson>                 widget.set_attributes(attrs)
[10:45] <cjwatson> thekorn: we have hardly any fixed-size widgets in ubiquity, I'd be surprised
[10:45] <asac> hmm
[10:45] <cjwatson> I was quite careful about that
[10:46] <cjwatson> gui/glade/stepLanguage.glade is the relevant glade page
[10:46] <asac> yeah i saw that
[10:46] <cjwatson> and the vbox definitely isn't fixed-size
[10:46] <asac> hopefully pango.AttrList starts with the system defaults
[10:46] <cjwatson> that's certainly what I expected
[10:46] <asac> so our "absolute" selection from 13.33px stays "absolute"
[10:46] <cjwatson> I mean, it ought to be equivalent to instantiating a label by <property/>
[10:47] <asac> yeah. but the fact that its not visible is something else anyway
[10:47] <cjwatson> (the reason for ubiquity's weird translation handling is essentially that it needs to switch language on the fly, which gtk is generally not smart enough to do well)
[10:49] <asac> the title is even crunched when i open it in glade-3
[10:50] <asac> the label itself is even not expanding
[10:51] <asac> kind of gtk bug maybe
[10:53] <asac> cjwatson: seems "Single Line Mode" is broken
[10:53] <asac> cjwatson: to workaround i can use Line Wrap Mode: Word
[10:53] <asac> could be a problem of course
[10:53] <asac> but at least in glade the label takes proper space then
[10:54] <cjwatson> mm, single line mode was an intentional choice and made it look a bit nicer
[10:54] <cjwatson> so obv. I'd rather gtk were fixed :-)
[10:54] <asac> cjwatson: of course. it would be a workaround if we dont find the fix
[10:55] <asac> lets give that to seb ;)
[11:01] <thekorn> ok, I've to run in a bit, thanks for your help, and thanks for trying to fix it
[12:20]  * ara -> lunch
[13:30]  * davmor2 lunch
[16:19] <davmor2> fader: welcome back :)
[16:20] <fader> davmor2: thanks :)
[17:50] <cjwatson> fader|lunch: at some point, would it be possible for you to run a cert test with grub2?
[17:51] <cjwatson> fader|lunch: the relevant preseed is 'd-i grub-installer/grub2_instead_of_grub_legacy boolean true' and only works with netboot installs (so probably not on the usual mounted-CD-image setup, although we could make it work on a DVD)
[17:53] <fader|lunch> cjwatson: You just caught me :)  Let me kick off the reset of that machine and get it to a state that I'll be able to reproduce the bug... that'll take 30 minutes or so I think and then I can try grub2
[17:53] <cjwatson> fader|lunch: I wasn't thinking of the machine we were talking about yesterday, specifically
[17:54] <fader|lunch> cjwatson: And I'll hang out in #ubuntu-installer if I need to bug you or vice-versa :)
[17:54] <cjwatson> this is definitely a separate thread from that
[17:54] <fader|lunch> cjwatson: Ah, okay, I'll grab a different one and kick it off
[17:55] <cjwatson> we'd like to investigate moving to grub2 in a future release, and one of the most effective pieces of input we could get would be an across-the-board cert test
[17:56] <fader|lunch> cjwatson: Ah... so you're looking to test this across the whole environment?
[17:56] <cjwatson> right, as a one-shot
[17:57] <cjwatson> it's in universe right now, though I think a netboot install would use it anyway
[17:57] <fader|lunch> cjwatson: At the moment we don't get very good feedback if an install fails, but I believe cr3 is adding some reporting around that
[17:57] <fader|lunch> cjwatson: So we might get better results if you can wait a week or so
[17:57] <fader|lunch> (If not we can still do it, but it'll be a manual process of checking to see if the machines installed)
[17:58] <cjwatson> fader|lunch: that's ok, this is a "sometime before jaunty" kind of thing rather than a "right now" kind of thing
[17:58] <cjwatson> just wanted to float it with you
[17:58] <cr3> fader|lunch: I would say more than a week to get proper install reporting
[17:58] <fader|lunch> cjwatson: Cool, I'll put it on the List Of Things To Test. :)
[17:58] <fader|lunch> cr3: okay, sorry -- I thought that was one of the quick one-offs... my mistake
[17:58] <fader|lunch> cr3: (Or maybe I just assumed you'd stop sleeping for a while ;) )
[17:58] <cr3> fader|lunch: nah, I need to decouple tests from results during the submission phase for that
[17:59] <cr3> fader|lunch: I'm giving up smoking so that I can save 15 minutes a day to implement those features you keep requesting
[17:59] <fader|lunch> Okay, sounds like we may just want to do this test by hand for Jaunty then.  I'll look at setting up some scripts to do this and walk through them a few machines at a time.
[17:59] <fader|lunch> cr3: :)
[18:00] <cr3> fader|lunch: by the way, when you said "adding some reporting around that
[18:00] <cr3> fader|lunch: ..., you meant reporting errors during install, right?
[18:00] <fader|lunch> cr3: right
[18:00] <cr3> fader|lunch: are you bringing up this topic because you found the reason we didn't get test results for 20090319?
[18:01] <fader|lunch> cr3: No, unfortunately... I've been on phone calls all morning.  I'm going to dig into that once I get some food in me
[19:27] <mrooney> Should bugs in the hardware test be filed against hwtest or checkbox? I assume checkbox?
[19:28] <mrooney> and specifically I also think bug 345548 is a dupe, yes?
[19:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 345548 in ubuntu "ubuntu system testing tool ignores system proxy settings, and try to submit report via direct connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345548


[12:09] <hitlin37> it is not preferred choice to have grep cmd in pre-start? i don't want to put too much computation in pre-start, so a bit cautious.


[10:30] <belkinsa> skellat, we have mod requests on the lists.ubuntu.com mailing-list.  What is the password?
[10:30] <belkinsa> (to our mailing-list)
[19:57] <skellat> belkinsa: I was trying to get<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to get that reset but there has been no movement on the ticket thus far
[20:15] <belkinsa> I know, but I think it's reset but without a new password.
[20:48] <skellat> belkinsa: If you want to follow up on [rt.ubuntu.com #25831] over in #canonical-sysadmin that would be great
[21:17] <skellat> belkinsa: I got the mailing list fixed, I will write to the three of you with the list password later today
[21:17] <skellat> listadmin is a wonderful tool
[21:17] <belkinsa> Alright.
[21:19] <jrgifford> coolio
[21:19] <Unit193> jrgifford: Howdy-o.
[21:19] <jrgifford> NOT DEAD YET
[21:19] <jrgifford> FEELING BETTER NOW
[21:27] <jrgifford> and just got spammed by mailman
[21:27] <jrgifford> coolio
[21:32] <skellat> Oh
[21:32] <skellat> The mailman spammage may not be done yet
[21:42] <skellat> And...I think we've got that fixed now
[22:12] <belkinsa> Yeah, no requests.  Are we moving the LP mailing-list to mailingman or is that for us, the admins?
[22:46] <skellat> belkinsa: I don't know
[22:46] <skellat> Right now, we can think about it
[22:46] <skellat> The mailman list does have some advantages (no membership in ~ubuntu-us-ohio on LP required)
[22:47] <skellat> And wxl has talked about how to square using such with still using LP as your primary background provider for things
[22:47] <skellat> So
[22:47] <skellat> It is an open issue for consideration