[12:00] <zblach> i.e. i have a key on my keyboard that i want to open a calculator when i hit it
[12:00] <dooglus> twibbler: my search string was the letter 'y'.  you can't get much of a simpler search string.
[12:00] <pr1r> hey all
[12:00] <twibbler> dooglus: so "grep y filename" ....
[12:01] <kkrizka_> what program would you suggest for screen capture movies?
[12:01] <zblach> kkrizka_, just hit 'printscreen' really fast
[12:01] <pr1r> so i guess this thing is actually legit
[12:01] <dooglus> twibbler: that's what I was doing.
[12:01] <pr1r> lol
[12:01] <Jowi> s00d: if you installed totem-xine and gstreamer0.8-flac it should work fine.
[12:01] <dooglus> twibbler: set LANG to be en_US.UTF-8 and grep for 'y' in /tmp/2mb.  it takes 2 days.
[12:02] <Equinox> Anyone have suggestions to get sound working?  For some reason it stopped
[12:02] <zblach> Equinox, did you fiddle with user settings?
[12:02] <dooglus> Equinox: does sound still work on your TV?  If not, if my be a user fault.
[12:02] <Equinox> zblach- I made sure the via82cxxx module(IDE) wasn't inserted
[12:02] <twibbler> dooglus: the display will take 2 days yes ......
[12:02] <Equinox> dooglus- Works fine on the Tv.
[12:02] <pr1r> ok so im new everyone im gonna sound like a complete herb im sure when i ask this
[12:02] <s00d> Thank you, jowi.
[12:03] <pr1r> but im having a problem getting cds to work
[12:03] <dooglus> twibbler: redirect the output to a file then,  or to /dev/null
[12:03] <dooglus> twibbler: it will still take 2 days
[12:03] <pr1r> and other apps that come with this
[12:03] <twibbler> dooglus: running now ........
[12:03] <pr1r> any suggestions?
[12:03] <dooglus> twibbler: taking a while?
[12:04] <zblach> CookedGryphon, is there some way to directly interface mathematica with my brain? it'd make math classes much easier
[12:04] <schasi> mathdrugs?
[12:05] <twibbler> dooglus: Its returning a match for virtually every character ... so it is writing output for every line.   yep it will take a while, but it is not a grep problem ..... It is standard IO...
[12:05] <Equinox> What devices should I check permissions on for sound?  Where can I see if it's detected it?
[12:05] <dooglus> twibbler: try exporting LANG to be en_US and run it again.  it will finish within the second.  It's a bug with how grep works on UTF.
[12:05] <erUSUL> Equinox, /dev/snd/*
[12:06] <erUSUL> Equinox, lsmod | grep snd
[12:07] <dooglus> I only bring this up because today is the bug's 1st birthday.  It's been in the ubuntu bugzilla for 1 year today and still isn't fixed.
[12:07] <fanskapet> http://users.sidvicious.se/fanskapet/screenshot09_10_2005_59_24.png
[12:07] <fanskapet> ahh at last im happy with my current ubuntu installation :P
[12:07] <fanskapet> nice and clean :P
[12:07] <Equinox> erUSUL, Sound seems to be in there.
[12:07] <Lie-Algebra> Hi,  kernel headers 2.5.999 test - 7 -bk - 17  are installed on my system according to synaptic but my kernel is 2.6.10-5-686. To  compile some software, do i need to uninstall the first headers and get the ones from 2.6.10-5-686 instead ?
[12:08] <erUSUL> Equinox, run alsamixer
[12:08] <Equinox> erUSUL, Okay.. Got it.. What does it do? :)
[12:09] <twibbler> dooglus: OK your are right if I change from en.GB.UTF-8 to en.US it works in abou 2 seconds ...
[12:09] <erUSUL> check the volume of the varius channels
[12:09] <nemik> today is software freedom day?
[12:09] <twibbler> dooglus: however if I then set the lang back to en.GB.UTF-8 it runs in 2 seconds ... so not a grep problem ... but a definition of the utf
[12:09] <dooglus> twibbler: do you mind if I ask why you were so resistant to seeing the bug, even though I told you exactly how to reproduce it?
[12:09] <nilss> hi. which filesystem is the initrd of ubuntu? i need to add a device node because it can not mount my harddisk.
[12:10] <dooglus> twibbler: oh, my mistake, you still don't believe me.  :)
[12:10] <twibbler> dooglus: because I still dont think there is a bug in grep itself ....
[12:10] <Feral_Kid> Is there an easy way to incorporate testing packages from the Debian archives into ubuntu 5
[12:10] <winner> hey guys
[12:10] <twibbler> dooglus: however there is a bug.... and im intrigued to find what it is ...
[12:10] <dooglus> twibbler: grep works, and produces the right output, so you could say there's no bug.  but it takes far to long to do it, so I would say that's a bug.
[12:10] <winner> im having trouble installing ubuntu
[12:11] <dooglus> twibbler: the reason you don't see it for the GB locale is that you didn't generate that locale.
[12:11] <nemik> winner, what happens?
[12:11] <Sashi> hmm
[12:11] <Sashi> how do i unrar stuff?
[12:11] <Sashi> i do unrar .rar
[12:11] <Sashi> but it needs commands
[12:11] <pr1r> winrar
[12:11] <nemik> hehe
[12:11] <LasseL> unrar e *.rar
[12:12] <dooglus> twibbler: edit /etc/locale.gen and run 'sudo locale-gen' afterwards to generate other locales
[12:12] <winner> nemik: well, this is the third time i've had an error now. the first two was for "deboostrap" or something like that. i rebooted, took my cd out, and put it back in, and this time i think i got a bit further. the error that i just got was for the kernel package.
[12:12] <twibbler> dooglus: the GB is the one I used all along ... the bug is in the setup of the LANG system variable because grep is now working with UTF ...
[12:12] <uber_spaced> is there a way to get ubuntu to automatically install a 2nd video card / monitor?
[12:12] <LasseL> actually I think you can just right click a .rar file in nautilus and select Extract Here
[12:12] <Feral_Kid> I am trying to install the latest version of fwbuilder... I see that is it available at a testing package, bit all I get is a problematic versionn
[12:12] <zblach> can i run the calculator program with my calculator button on my keyboard?
[12:12] <winner> btw this is a laptop. old sony pcg-f560 p3 600mhz w/ 128mb ram. not much.
[12:12] <erUSUL> dooglus, twibbler, we can agree that there is a regression in funcionality/eficience of the tool ;)
[12:12] <dooglus> twibbler: I'm wondering if the resistance you have to seeing this bug is common, and that's why nobody will fix it.
[12:12] <pr1r> yeah lot of people i know using something old to test this before we all switch
[12:13] <pr1r> im on an old dell laptop
[12:13] <d4rkstar> hi guys got a question
[12:13] <pr1r> craptop
[12:13] <winner> somebody help me please.
[12:13] <d4rkstar> error loading key bindings configuration in xchat
[12:13] <d4rkstar> how can I fix that
[12:13] <nemik> winner, are you doing it on a modern system or soemthing old?
[12:13] <OPC-failure> help; I'm only finding problems on the forums for people for whom cd-burning has broken, and I'm not finding solutions... can anyone guide me to help fix hoary so that it will burn cd's correctly like it used to?
[12:13] <winner> nemik: its a pentium 3 600MHz with 128MB ram. not too modern. not that old either.
[12:13] <Red_Bullet> tell me please the best console torrent client
[12:13] <Red_Bullet> ?
[12:13] <twibbler> dooglus: I dont have a resistance to bugs... Im just evry used to the bug being somewhere else than the program ... this does look like a configuration issue and saying the bug is with grep itself maybe misleading ...
[12:13] <nemik> winner, not bad, are you doing a server install or the regular desktop one?
[12:14] <Equinox> Crap.  No errors, modules are inserted.. But no sound. Sound pretends like it is playing.
[12:14] <WeLsHWiZaRd> hey
[12:14] <WeLsHWiZaRd> guys dnt no if this is a reg question
[12:14] <twibbler> Ive been using grep for 15 years and never had a problem with it ..
[12:14] <WeLsHWiZaRd> but im having probs with the dns's on kubuntu
[12:14] <winner> nemik: regular desktop. its an old laptop.
[12:14] <pr1r> well i just started using this os but i know torrentspy and isohunt are good sites and abc and azuresus are good for getting the files
[12:14] <okapi_> jowi, are you there?
[12:14] <nemik> could have problems on its hardrive
[12:14] <pr1r> for windows
[12:14] <pr1r> lol
[12:14] <WeLsHWiZaRd> i have set the gateway in the configs so it sticks
[12:14] <dooglus> twibbler: I think you spelt the locale wrong.  use "en_GB" not "en.GB".  then the grep bug will come bakc.
[12:14] <WeLsHWiZaRd> but nuthin seems to resolve still
[12:15] <dooglus> twibbler: if you look at the source of grep you'll be more convinced where the fault lies
[12:15] <Red_Bullet> please tell me console torrent client
[12:15] <codenut> Does ubuntu care about old PNP BIOS?
[12:15] <nemik> winner, i had a similar problem on an old computer who's hard drive was broken
[12:15] <winner> nemik: could it be the hard drive?
[12:15] <pr1r> whats gst-register
[12:15] <twibbler> dooglus: I am really intrigued now ...
[12:15] <Red_Bullet> please tell me console torrent client
[12:15] <nemik> winner, i think that is probably it
[12:15] <pr1r> every app i run tels me to do something with gst-register
[12:15] <Equinox> Is there any sort of daemon that needs to run under Ubuntu for sound to work?  Maybe it died
[12:16] <codenut> ask ubuntu about PNP BIOS
[12:16] <winner> nemik: damn. i dont know how im going to replace the HD. i'm going to reboot and try again for one more time, see if i get the same error. maybe its the cd, i don't know.
[12:16] <dooglus> twibbler: grep is running over the whole file for every match, resulting in a performance proportional to the SQUARE of the file size.
[12:16] <typo> could someone please try to rename a file in a "sync" mounted filesystem (a pendrive will do) with nautilus? I can't get it to work
[12:16] <typo> The rename text entry appears and then becomes non-editable right away
[12:16] <nemik> winner, yea try reburing the CD at a slower speed
[12:16] <typo> in my home dir this doesn't happen
[12:16] <dooglus> twibbler: there are patches attached to the bug report if you're interested.  it's just that nobody seems to want to apply them.  redhat have fixed it months ago, by the way.
[12:17] <mike_> anyone here
[12:17] <twibbler> dooglus: well Ill look at the code I want to know ...
[12:17] <aitor> anybody now what program uses 1027 udp port?
[12:17] <aitor> and 5438?
[12:17] <mike_> how about making aim work on linux
[12:17] <nemik> mike, try gaim
[12:17] <vanberge> mike_, use gaim
[12:17] <dooglus> twibbler: are you in a position to fix the problem?
[12:17] <zblach> how can i bind key '0xa1' to open the gnome calculator?
[12:18] <mike_> where can I get that?
[12:18] <Feral_Kid> aitor: netstat -ap -udp
[12:18] <vanberge> mike, probably installed already
[12:18] <aitor> ok
[12:18] <nemik> mike, it should be installed
[12:18] <vanberge> applications > internet > gaim
[12:18] <nemik> hehe ok vanberge, you answer from now on! :D
[12:18] <twibbler> dooglus: not personally.... but do know a man who can ...
[12:18] <mike_> sorry guys im very new to linux
[12:18] <{GuNNeR}> I was wondering if someone could explain to me why ubuntu is a good distro choice
[12:18] <vanberge> sorry nemik :-)
[12:18] <fr3on> hi :)
[12:18] <nemik> mike, no problem, hope you enjoy it
[12:19] <mike_> well once i learn how to use it, i might like it.. lol
[12:19] <ubuntu> new ubuntu is looking good :)
[12:19] <twibbler> dooglus: and he is more of a why person than I am ...
[12:19] <nemik> gunner, it has the best hardware support of any distro IMO and is very stable. and apt-get!
[12:19] <{GuNNeR}> nemik: I'm looking for someone thing won't make me rely a lot on gui and help me familiarize myself with the command line - is that possible with ubuntu
[12:20] <nemik> gunner, yes i do this
[12:20] <ubuntu> gunner you should check out suse 10 RC1
[12:20] <tga> {GuNNeR}, Ubuntu has some gui customization but there is nothing that _relies_ on any gui apps
[12:20] <nemik> gunner, when you install it, instead of hitting enter at the first screen, type in server
[12:21] <nemik> it will install no GUI
[12:21] <nemik> that is what i use for my SMS server
[12:21] <tga> let the guy install the whole thing, then play with it
[12:21] <tga> you only need a server install if you know what you're doing
[12:21] <zblach> how can i bind a key to run a program?
[12:21] <dooglus> twibbler: do be sure to point him at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1148 so he doesn't have to start from scratch.
[12:21] <tga> ubuntu, how exactly is suse better than ubuntu?
[12:22] <ubuntu> i thought he was looking for something more advanced
[12:22] <nemik> tga is right, starting with GUI is good and then playing more with the terminal. once you are familiar, try the minimalist server install
[12:22] <twibbler> dooglus: he wont start from scratch ....
[12:22] <tga> how exactly is suse more advanced than ubuntu?
[12:22] <nemik> yea really?
[12:22] <karlheg> ubuntu, How many software packages are there pre-comiled and ready to use for Suse?
[12:22] <karlheg> ubuntu, What about scientific data processing applications and development libraries?
[12:23] <karlheg> (universe and multiverse)
[12:23] <WeLsHWiZaRd> anybody here gd with new kubuntu????????//
[12:23] <WeLsHWiZaRd> LOL
[12:24] <twibbler> dooglus: thanks for a most interesting chat ....
[12:24] <tga> {GuNNeR}, go with regular Ubuntu.. after you are familiar with it you can do everything in the console
[12:24] <{GuNNeR}> thanks tga
[12:24] <WeLsHWiZaRd> yeh but i can
[12:24] <WeLsHWiZaRd> just im having DNS probs
[12:24] <dooglus> twibbler: no problem.
[12:24] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[12:24] <_lui_> tga, I found ubuntu much more easy than suse in certain things like it comes with an easy update support
[12:24] <LethAL-Rocks> It won't find my WLAN Adapter after installing drivers for it's chipset
[12:24] <vanberge> {GuNNeR}, when i tried to learn a bit about command line, i did alot of bash tuturials
[12:24] <vanberge> there are alot of them on line that talk about bash scripting, etc...
[12:24] <twibbler> dooglus: and it is going to bug me till its fixed ... so I will get onto it as soon as he decides to come back from his tab ....
[12:25] <fr3on> im newbee it so weird? using sudo apt get? wer it come from i mean the file wer did it get it? i used to windows in downloading program but sudo and apt get is amazing
[12:25] <maar> o my god, i actually got WoW running !! :) but no sound. :(
[12:25] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[12:25] <{GuNNeR}> is there any good documentation on linux in general, something similar to linuxcommand.org?
[12:25] <dooglus> 'tab', twibbler?  what's that?
[12:25] <twibbler> dooglus: smoke !!!!
[12:25] <dooglus> ooh, i see.
[12:25] <Xorlev> Question: On some sites, I've been seeing quote boxes and such with text that doesn't show up. I can select it, but its not there unless I copy and paste it into something else. Example: Subnet Matrix Table on http://linuxreviews.org/features/ipv6/. It shows up in lynx, but not Konqueror or FireFox. Any ideas?
[12:25] <Sly> maar quick tip may not solve it try killing esd befor you play the game
[12:25] <vanberge> {GuNNeR}, www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:25] <Blissex> {GuNNeR}: dozens of good books, the best are tge Stevens ones, but perhaps a bit too advanced.
[12:26] <tga> fr3on, 1) you might want to spell out your words
[12:26] <maar> Sly, ok, how do i do that?
[12:26] <Sly> . killall esd
[12:26] <CookdGryphon> does ne1 kno where i can get help with my winmodem?#
[12:26] <fr500> hello
[12:26] <Sly> remember to set it running again after you finished ..........
[12:26] <maar> sly, ok, thx, i'll try that :)
[12:26] <tga> fr3on, apt-get gets its packages from the ubuntu repositories.. that could be a ftp site or a cd or something else
[12:26] <malv> is there a way to apt-get update the preview release?
[12:27] <CookdGryphon> interesting you should mention killall esd there.... slmodem uses alsa which can sometimes conflict with esd.................
[12:27] <Sly> may not solve it, but then again it just might :)
[12:27] <root__> hery guys i just installe breezy. my x keeps crashing, how do i reconfigure xserver?
[12:27] <root__> hery=hey
[12:27] <crimsun> root__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:27] <fr500> usually I access my computer remotely using VNC, but there is an issue, i gotta login first, is there a way for me to see login manager and login remotely?
[12:27] <tga> root__, or X -configure
[12:27] <yahalom> q
[12:27] <tga> fr500, remotely over your home network or the net?
[12:27] <fr500> over the net
[12:28] <Sly> not a issue to smile about
[12:28] <rainmaker> is there an app to select wich services to run at startup?
[12:28] <yahalom> exit
[12:28] <jaku> how can i remove a package that is too new (not in te ubuntu repo) and reinstall the ubuntu one in the same time?
[12:28] <fr500> tga, over the internet
[12:28] <fr3on> i have a problem i wanna change my ubuntu to kubuntu i get this message E: /var/cache/apt/archives/language-pack-de-base_20050406_all.deb:  corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive: Success
[12:28] <jaku> i can use only apt
[12:28] <Sly> maar , let me know if it works :)
[12:28] <fr500> fr500 in synaptic look for the package and select remove completely
[12:28] <fr500> then reinstall
[12:29] <fr500> jaku, that was for you
[12:29] <fr500> jaku, apt-get remove
[12:29] <tga> fr500, you can configure your login manager to allow remote logins, but you don't want to open that to the net.. what you could do is forward that port to your remote machine through a vpn or ssh tunnel
[12:29] <fr500> tga, i have a public ip address
[12:30] <tga> fr500, good for you
[12:30] <Sly> lol
[12:30] <fr500> lol
[12:30] <fr500> tga, how can i do it?
[12:30] <tga> fr500, it's not a good idea to open up X security-wise
[12:30] <fr500> (via the net) then i'll do the ip ip tunnel
[12:30] <NightBird> hm... how would I give permissions to a directory to a user?
[12:31] <vanberge> NightBird, chmod command
[12:31] <tga> fr500, sudo gdmsetup, XDMCP -> enable
[12:31] <vanberge> NightBird, but, you could probably use sudo depending on what you are doing
[12:31] <fr500> and then how do i connect?
[12:32] <_lui_> If anyone have breezy right now, can you tell me what's new in breezy by now?
[12:32] <zblach> how can I bind a key to run a program
[12:32] <tga> fr500, on the remote machine choose 'remote session' or something like that in the login manager and type in the address
[12:32] <hawking> how can i connect to newsgroups and read news in ubuntu? any programme for that?
[12:32] <tga> hawking, pan is nice
[12:32] <fr500> NightBird,  you can give permisions to owner, group and others
[12:32] <tga> hawking, you can also use email clients like mozilla-thunderbird
[12:32] <rainmaker> is there an app to select wich services to run at startup?
[12:32] <fr500> NightBird, so you can add the user you want to your group or assign permissions to others either way will work
[12:33] <fr500> tga, then, how would i connect to hte server?
[12:33] <tga> fr500, on the remote machine choose 'remote session' or something like that in the login manager and type in the server's address
[12:33] <fr500> ok
[12:33] <fr500> gotta try
[12:33] <fr500> bbl
[12:34] <tga> heh, opening up gdm to the net is not a good idea
[12:34] <rainmaker> is it safe to have the same root password as user passwd?
[12:34] <tga> rainmaker, as long as you don't allow remote root logins, maybe
[12:35] <CookdGryphon> depends, what's ure user password rainmaker?
[12:35] <CookdGryphon> :P
[12:35] <twibbler> rainmaker: as long as nobody else knows our password ...
[12:35] <GeekS> #ubuntus-es
[12:35] <GeekS> #ubuntu-es
[12:36] <rainmaker> tga how do i disallow remote root logins?
[12:36] <tga> GeekS, try /join #ubuntu-es
[12:36] <Bjerrk> tga: lol
[12:36] <tga> rainmaker, they're already off by default in sshd and gdm
[12:36] <rainmaker> cool
[12:37] <rainmaker> by the way you dont happen to know how to select wich services that runs at startup?
[12:37] <tga> rainmaker, by hand you do it with update-rc.d
[12:37] <rainmaker> is it a config file?
[12:37] <tga> rainmaker, no, it's a tool that messes with the symlinks in /etc/rc*
[12:38] <rainmaker> hm
[12:38] <rainmaker> how do i open it?
[12:38] <tga> there are tools that help with that, but I can't think of one right now
[12:38] <tga> ntsysv-like
[12:38] <tga> maybe someone else can help with that
[12:38] <GTroy> wow big channel
[12:38] <rainmaker> how do i use update-rc.d?
[12:39] <Bjerrk> GTroy: yeah, it's cool :)
[12:39] <tga> rainmaker, update-rc.d -f yourservicename remove
[12:39] <rainmaker> oh.. I need a list of them though
[12:40] <tga> rainmaker, there are tools that do what you want, I'm searching for one as we speak
[12:40] <twibbler> rainmaker: system -> preferences -> session ... will help you setup specific programs ...
[12:40] <GTroy> Bjerrk, or anyone, can you give a good idea for a cheap "quality" laptop for breezy?
[12:40] <tga> twibbler, he wants to see a list of system services, not xsession stuff
[12:40] <twibbler> tga: I see sorry misunderstood ...
[12:40] <rainmaker> twibbler, i dont see any programs there
[12:40] <Bjerrk> GTroy: hmm.... ANY cheap laptop'd do. That the great thing about linux ;)
[12:40] <rainmaker> ah
[12:41] <Bjerrk> *that is
[12:41] <tga> other than ntsysv what apps configure the system services?
[12:41] <Kaetemi> hi all, is there anyone here who could help me with getting my screen resolution higher than 1024*768 @ 60Hz, plz?
[12:41] <GTroy> what about configuration problems
[12:41] <rainmaker> Kaetemi, install your video drivers
[12:41] <CookdGryphon> GTroy, but! b careful about the modem! there are a lot of ones with really really dodgy modems, winmodems, check its sup[ported or get an external modem with ure laptop
[12:41] <GTroy> would only use wifi
[12:42] <Bjerrk> GTroy, what do you mean? Do you mean "What laptop would be the easiest?"
[12:42] <Kaetemi> how do i do that, rainmaker? :p
[12:42] <GTroy> Bjerrk: you got it!
[12:42] <rainmaker> Kaetemi, http://ubuntuguide.org
[12:42] <GTroy> I've got hoary on my old hp box
[12:42] <tga> rainmaker, a-ha! apt-get install sysvconfig
[12:42] <GTroy> but mostly I use my ibook
[12:42] <rainmaker> yay thx
[12:42] <Bjerrk> hehe... if you're going for wifi, find a card that you KNOW is supported :P
[12:43] <GTroy> got it
[12:43] <maar> Sly, did'nt work.
[12:43] <maar> Sly, do u know how to config. wine to use other sound output?
[12:43] <Bjerrk> Aah... Gnome is nice. I've been using KDE for too long
[12:44] <GTroy> Gnome uses less memory too
[12:44] <flugh> when i join, i see in the channel modes, "no colors allowed". sounds kind of racist
[12:44] <fr500> tga, wow this works, still testing locally, now a question, if i get disconnected from the net, would my session close?
[12:44] <tga> fr500, yes
[12:44] <tga> fr500, vnc/nx is still the better choise
[12:44] <tga> choice rather
[12:45] <Bjerrk> Uh.. i've got a question BTW. Is there a Gnome tool that let's you change the gamma/brightness of you monitor?
[12:45] <fr500> tga, but for login there is not another choice
[12:45] <tga> Bjerrk, I don't think your computer can control that
[12:45] <Bjerrk> tga: ofcourse it can
[12:45] <mike_> any help out there to get my mp3 disk to work
[12:45] <tga> Bjerrk, some cards have a gamma/brightness of their own, but you can't talk to the monitor
[12:45] <fr500> tga, would it be to slow through internet? it's faster than VNC locally
[12:45] <Bjerrk> When KDe can do it Gnome can too.
[12:45] <rainmaker> tga you think i can disable apmd?
[12:45] <Bjerrk> *KDE
[12:46] <jaku> ok this is the situation, i don-t have the img of the kernel in /boot any more.. any idea to save my computer?
[12:46] <tga> rainmaker, probably
[12:46] <tga> jaku, apt-get install linux-kernel again
[12:46] <CookdGryphon> jaku, can u use the rescue disk to coipy a new one in?
[12:46] <Bjerrk> tga: KDe can do it natively. Can Gnome do it?
[12:47] <mirak> hi
[12:47] <tga> Bjerrk, I don't think kde can set _monitor_ brightness levels, but I may be missing something
[12:47] <jaku> CookdGryphon, yap.. but how can i swo it to grub?
[12:47] <Bjerrk> tga: how come i just did it, then?
[12:47] <CookdGryphon> swo??
[12:47] <mirak> is it possible to have apache beeing used as a frontal server for another server than runs on another port ?
[12:47] <jaku> show
[12:47] <CookdGryphon> jaku, is it a different version or something?
[12:47] <tga> Bjerrk, those might be video card settings.. in any case, I don't know how to do it in gnome
[12:47] <CookdGryphon> cos u can jsut edit the grub boot command to point to the new kernel name
[12:48] <CookdGryphon> press e on the line
[12:48] <jaku> CookdGryphon, don-t think, but grub see only memotest
[12:48] <twibbler> mirak: I think you may need a specific apache channel for that one ..
[12:48] <tga> jaku, do you still have your system going?
[12:48] <CookdGryphon> jaku, add a new entry on /boot/grub/boot.lst
[12:48] <tga> jaku, the easiest way to fix it would be to reinstall the kernel image.. that will also configure grub for you
[12:48] <jaku> tga, no, but i-m with a live cd.. and i did chroot to it
[12:48] <Bjerrk> tga: the thing is that my monitor is always far too dark, even at 100%, therefore i have to change it through software
[12:48] <mirak> twibbler: I am on it ;)
[12:49] <superfly> hey I have a quick question. In ubuntu is there anyway to get a plain terminal without X?
[12:49] <CookdGryphon> menu.lst sry jaku
[12:49] <Bjerrk> superfly: ofcourse
[12:49] <DewDude> superfly, yes
[12:49] <tga> Bjerrk, right, those are card settings then
[12:49] <superfly> how?
[12:49] <tga> superfly, ctrl+alt+f1
[12:49] <superfly> ok thanks
[12:49] <Bjerrk> tga: F2, innit?
[12:49] <tga> superfly, you can find X again with alt+f7
[12:49] <CookdGryphon> hadn't u best tell him how to get back?
[12:49] <ttyS0> where libiconv.so.2 can be found?
[12:49] <CookdGryphon> yeah lol
[12:49] <fr500> tga, how do i enable it only for the lan?
[12:50] <winner> nemik: ok im back with the debootstrap error. is there anyway i can actually read the logs?
[12:50] <tga> CookdGryphon, heh I only thought of that afterwards
[12:50] <Bjerrk> tga: yes, it is card settings. Still same problem. But how do make my monitor seem brighter, using some gnome tool?
[12:51] <fr500> Bjerrk, none so far
[12:51] <JazyLNX> now for the reboot
[12:51] <JazyLNX> hopfully the breezy dist-upgrade worked
[12:51] <Bjerrk> fr500: are you sure?
[12:51] <tga> Bjerrk, sorry, no idea
[12:52] <jaku> CookdGryphon, can you give the line of your grub.. just to see?
[12:52] <fr500> Bjerrk, not 100% there are a lot of progs out there
[12:52] <CookdGryphon> okay
[12:52] <DewDude> i dist-upgraded to breezy last night
[12:52] <CookdGryphon> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[12:52] <CookdGryphon> is the kernel line
[12:53] <tga> fr500, hmm.. you could set up your firewall I guess..
[12:53] <fr500> tga, to disable xdcmp from the internet, would i disable the honour indirect requests?
[12:53] <CookdGryphon> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[12:53] <CookdGryphon> is the initrd line
[12:53] <tga> fr500, I don't think so, requests from the net are the same as lan requests.. you have to set up allowed hosts somewhere
[12:53] <CookdGryphon> jake join #flood n i'll give u the whole listing if u like
[12:53] <Red_Bullet> please
[12:53] <Red_Bullet> help
[12:53] <Red_Bullet> me
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> how can i download torrent file with bittornado
[12:54] <CookdGryphon> Red_Bullet, what's the problem
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> btdownloadcurses
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> is
[12:54] <hawking> well I have never connected to a news server before... what are well known news servers? for example how can i connect to comp.lang.python?
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> interface
[12:54] <cafuego> fr500: You would set up a firewall. Do _not_ run xdmcp on a non-firewalled machine. (Atually, do not run xdmcp on a machine that isn't on a protected lan)
[12:54] <jaku> CookdGryphon, tks
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> can you help me
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> ?
[12:54] <fr500> cafuego, i undestand, i'd like to know why tho
[12:55] <cafuego> fr500: X runs as root. If X has a security problem, you have a root hole.
[12:55] <yonil> what application can i use to make an application run at a certain time  ? (something simple, gui based, not cron)
[12:55] <cafuego> fr500: And X is FAR alrge enough for there to be undiscovered holes.
[12:55] <malv> crons pretty simple
[12:56] <selinium> how do i shutdown from the command line?
[12:56] <dylan_> how do i permanently set my cdrom drives with dma on?
[12:56] <cafuego> selinium: 'sudo halt'
[12:56] <Bjerrk> selinium: shutdown?
[12:56] <cafuego> selinium: or 'sudo shutdown -h now'
[12:56] <Bjerrk> :P
[12:56] <IcE-bOy> hi
[12:56] <fr500> cafuego, understood, so i gotta setup a firewall, then establish a VPN or IP tunnel and then enable XDCMP rite?
[12:56] <yonil> malv, i know cron, but i need someting to work only 1 time, like a calendar option
[12:56] <selinium> switch off the pc
[12:56] <IcE-bOy> somebody is using synaptics ?
[12:56] <selinium> cheers cafuego
[12:56] <cafuego> fr500: If you set the firewall up right, a tunnel probably isn't needed.
[12:57] <CookdGryphon> dylan_, i want to kno that too,
[12:57] <jdermer> is there a program for linux that is similar to mac os x's dock
[12:57] <jdermer> like a clone basically
[12:57] <tga> fr500, you could disable remote logins and then use a ssh tunnel to get to the local port
[12:57] <Red_Bullet> ooo no nobody can help me
[12:57] <Red_Bullet> can't
[12:57] <dylan_> can somebody help me set dma permanently
[12:57] <cafuego> Red_Bullet: btdownloadcurses "http:.......blah.torrent"
[12:57] <twibbler> tga: that would work .. do it a lot ...
[12:57] <fr500> cafuego, tga thanks
[12:58] <fr500> tga, would not work with an IP tunnel?
[12:58] <Tomcat_> dylan_: Edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[12:58] <oolon> Red_Bullet, try azureus http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
[12:58] <CookdGryphon> Tomcat_, thanks!!
[12:58] <tga> fr500, I guess, ssh is just easier to set up imho
[12:58] <Tomcat_> dylan_: Check out the section at the bottom, they should tell you enough. Ask if it's not clear. :)
[12:58] <dylan_> Tomcat, i did that already and when i rebooted and checked with sudo hdparm it didnt work
[12:58] <fr500> ok
[12:59] <Tomcat_> dylan_: Is it some dynamically loaded drive?
[12:59] <jdermer> anyonE?
[12:59] <dylan_> Tomcat_, they are cdrom drives /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd
[12:59] <yonil> what application can i use to make an application run at a certain time  ? (something simple, gui based, not cron)
[12:59] <Tomcat_> dylan_: But it does work temporarily?
[12:59] <erUSUL> yonil, at
[12:59] <erUSUL> man at
[01:00] <dylan_> Tomcat_, im not sure.....i canot rip songs from cds as fast as i can on windows
[01:00] <mpm2> Does anyone know a good way to figure out why my CD-burning does not work anymore?
[01:00] <oolon> jdermer, if you run kde there are superkaramba themes that mimic osx dock
[01:00] <fr500> cafuego, if i set a firewall, i gotta open the XDCMP port anyway right?
[01:00] <jdermer> im using ubuntu not kubuntu
[01:00] <jdermer> so i got gnome
[01:00] <dylan_> Tomcat_, and im afraid i f'ed up my /etc/hdparm.conf file
[01:00] <Tomcat_> dylan_: Do "sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdc" or hdd, and see if dma is on.
[01:00] <oolon> jdermer, not sure about gdesklets though
[01:00] <dylan_> Tomcat_, other than the readme section of the file, i removed all the # symbols
[01:01] <CookdGryphon> Tomcat_, is hdparm meant to b all commented out by default?
[01:01] <dylan_> Tomcat_, hdc is on
[01:01] <jdermer> wuts gdesklets ?
[01:01] <Tomcat_> CookdGryphon: Yeah that's normal.
[01:01] <tga> hmm.. can you start Xnest through ssh -X and get a full session?
[01:01] <dylan_> Tomcat_, so i can remove all the commetns
[01:01] <Tomcat_> dylan_: so it does work temporarily... mh... :\
[01:01] <rainmaker> is there a way to make the gaim window blink in the taskbar when you have a new message?
[01:01] <sadrul> say, isn't there supposed to be some glib2[-devel]  package?
[01:01] <rainmaker> used to do it on fedora i dont know whats wrong
[01:01] <mpm2> anyone have a minute to look at my cdrecord errors please?  http://pastebin.com/360135
[01:01] <dylan_> rainmaker, no
[01:01] <CookdGryphon> rainmaker, u can download guifications to pop up when sum1 messages u
[01:01] <Tomcat_> dylan_: No idea then, sorry. If dma doesn't work at all, you might miss a driver.
[01:02] <dylan_> Tomcat_, ok thanks bud
[01:02] <rainmaker> i dont want it to pop up just a little blink in the taskbar
[01:02] <tga> rainmaker, you can have it show the number of unread messages in the titlebar
[01:02] <rainmaker> cool
[01:02] <jdermer> oolon wut are gdesklets
[01:02] <rainmaker> works for me
[01:02] <tga> rainmaker, take a look at the installed plugins.. there's one about message notification
[01:02] <Red_Bullet> i want console torrent client
[01:02] <oolon> jdermer, this might be what you're looking for http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app&gd_app_id=210
[01:02] <Red_Bullet> tell me how to start bittornado
[01:02] <Red_Bullet> ?
[01:02] <Red_Bullet> aa
[01:02] <Red_Bullet> bittorrent
[01:03] <Red_Bullet> how to start bittorrent
[01:03] <jdermer> yea that sorta looks like the dock
[01:03] <tga> Red_Bullet, btdownloadcurses for example
[01:03] <jdermer> with ubuntu is there a way to like hmmmm
[01:03] <jdermer> im a n00b so bear with me
[01:03] <LasseL> Red_Bullet, Applications > Internet > GNOME BitTorrent
[01:03] <CookdGryphon> does it do any harm if u set the cdrom speed higher than it actually is with hdparm?
[01:03] <tga> LasseL, that's not console though
[01:03] <Tomcat_> CookdGryphon: Yes.
[01:03] <CookdGryphon> cos i dont' kno what speed it is, so i ahve to guess
[01:03] <jdermer> like in gentoo u type like install (packagename) sorta
[01:03] <Tomcat_> CookdGryphon: At least, it *might* damage the drive.
[01:04] <CookdGryphon> Tomcat_, how do i find out the speed then?
[01:04] <jdermer> and itll like download and install the package
[01:04] <jdermer> deps and all
[01:04] <tga> jdermer, apt-get install packagename
[01:04] <Tomcat_> CookdGryphon: No idea, sorry... my drive is fast enough, never had to change it.
[01:04] <jdermer> do i need to open a root term to do it ?
[01:04] <yonil> erUSUL, i ran "at <TIME>" now i get a terminal type thing, i write there the application i want it to run, now what ? (how do i exit the terminal?)
[01:04] <oolon> jdermer, yes
[01:04] <tga> jdermer, you have to be root to run apt-get, so you run it through sudo
[01:04] <tga> jdermer, sudo apt-get install packagename
[01:04] <Tomcat_> jdermer: Yeah, apt-get is the same... there are even GUIs for it.
[01:05] <erUSUL> yonil Ctrl - D
[01:05] <tga> jdermer, synaptic is a nice gui for it
[01:05] <oolon> jdermer, you can use synaptic as well
[01:05] <oolon> :D
[01:05] <rainmaker> aptitude is better though
[01:05] <rainmaker> from what i have heard
[01:05] <jdermer> o
[01:05] <yonil> erUSUL, that means "end of file" ?
[01:05] <rainmaker> aptitude install <packetname>
[01:05] <tga> meh, synaptic > apt-get > aptitude
[01:06] <erUSUL> yonil, yes
[01:06] <jdermer> with synaptic
[01:06] <yonil> erUSUL, thanks
[01:06] <jdermer> i just search for the package ?
[01:07] <Gobbla> I cant watch subs on VLC @ ubuntu.. what can I do to fix this?
[01:07] <tga> jdermer, yes
[01:07] <erUSUL> yonil, you are wellcome
[01:07] <tga> jdermer, in the console you search with apt-cache search packagename
[01:07] <yonil> alias aget="sudo apt-get install" > apt-get > synaptic :D
[01:07] <jdermer> k
[01:07] <jdermer> ubuntu pwns
[01:07] <jdermer> lol
[01:08] <rainmaker> tga how did you say you could make gaim display the amount of unread messeges?
[01:08] <cute_bettong> how do i make the windows transparent in breezy?
[01:08] <jdermer> do any of u know why ubuntu hates my athlon xp 2800+ rig tho
[01:08] <jdermer> basically after it install
[01:08] <tga> rainmaker, Preferences -> Plugins -> Message Notification
[01:08] <cafuego> jdermer: karma
[01:08] <GhostFreeman> Is there a way to increase the brightness of the desktop
[01:08] <jdermer> and i go to login with gdm
[01:08] <cafuego> cute_bettong: hardware transparency?
[01:08] <rainmaker> tga, weird... thats what I tried and it didnt work for some reason
[01:08] <jdermer> i just get a pointer
[01:08] <jdermer> and it doesnt load into gnome
[01:08] <cute_bettong> um i don't know
[01:08] <jdermer> karma ?
[01:08] <Red_Bullet> how to start bittorrent
[01:08] <Red_Bullet> ?
[01:09] <cute_bettong> i just want to make the windows transparent
[01:09] <tga> rainmaker, after you enable it take a look at Plugins -> Mesage Notification
[01:09] <cafuego> cute_bettong: You can get transparent windows in X using hardware, but that will disable 3D (completely) and crash quite often.
[01:09] <yonil> erUSUL, any ideas why it isn't working ?
[01:09] <tga> Red_Bullet, do you want a gui or console?
[01:09] <rainmaker> tga,  it has all the settings i want there
[01:09] <cute_bettong> ewww i don't think so
[01:09] <CookdGryphon> cute_bettong, u can get a terminal to go transparent
[01:09] <erUSUL> Red_Bullet,  btdownloadcurses *.torrent
[01:09] <CookdGryphon> i ahve that, it looks cool, and the panels
[01:09] <jdermer> neone ?
[01:09] <cafuego> Not to mention I found it extremely annoying when I had it enabled for half an hour or so.
[01:09] <cute_bettong> i have without makeing the windows transparent created my theme
[01:10] <cute_bettong> i call it ubuntu's darkness ^_^
[01:10] <erUSUL> yonil, an example $ at 08:00 September 11 <Return>
[01:10] <tga> jdermer, sounds like something wrong is going on.. try to login with other window manager
[01:10] <erUSUL> yonil, > shutdown -h now
[01:10] <Kaetemi> hmm still can't get resolution and refresh rate higher after installing gfxcard drivers
[01:10] <jdermer> it only comes with gnome tho
[01:10] <jdermer> and that failsafe term
[01:10] <cute_bettong> is there somewhere i can like post my theme for people to see?
[01:10] <jdermer> which works
[01:10] <erUSUL> yonil, > [Ctrl-D]
[01:10] <samu2> I filed a bug and was told to try and see if dmesg returns anything when the error happens.
[01:10] <tga> Kaetemi, did you restart X?
[01:10] <cute_bettong> like show a screeny?
[01:11] <Kaetemi> yep
[01:11] <cafuego> cute_bettong: There's an ubuntu artwork site.. check the wiki for the actual address.
[01:11] <cute_bettong> kk
[01:11] <nemik> so i'm absolutely in love with ubuntu and the principles it represents. i want to give it to my grandmother on her old laptop to use because it is easy and free and it available in croatia. but how would she use dialup on it? it is all they have.
[01:11] <mpm2> Does anyone know if there's a paid support option for ubuntu? when 8+ hours go by on a problem and I'm not making progress I start to wonder if I could just pay an expert for help
[01:11] <CookdGryphon> cute_bettong, i'd like to see this theme
[01:11] <yonil> erUSUL, yeah i did that, i tried running amarok, and it said  "job 5 at 2005-09-11 02:10" like it should, but at 2:10 nothing happend
[01:11] <GhostFreeman> Is there a way to boost the brightness or gamma of my X11
[01:11] <CookdGryphon> nemik, depennds what modem it has
[01:11] <_reset> no audio output in totem-xine
[01:11] <mpm2> nemik I've gotten wvdial working
[01:11] <_reset> why?
[01:11] <samu2> What kind of words should I be looking for when the error is related to updating the kernel-image through the "ubuntu update manager"?
[01:11] <_chavo> GhostFreeman: xgamma
[01:12] <twibbler> mpm2: paid options are not cheap ...
[01:12] <CookdGryphon> nemik, if they ahve a working modem then jstu put the gnome modem applet on the panel
[01:12] <tga> nemik, get the Ubuntu binary cds.. they contain many useful pacakges
[01:12] <nemik> tga, yes i have them from the free shipit.
[01:12] <mpm2> twibbler: ok thanks
[01:12] <tga> ah, alright.. wvdial then or the gnome thing
[01:12] <nemik> so is it installed in gnome? or needs to be apt-gotten ;) or something?
[01:13] <twibbler> mpm2: but are available.....      I us one for work to maintain the servers ...
[01:13] <GhostFreeman> Do I need to restart X11 to see the gamma improvments?
[01:13] <_chavo> GhostFreeman: no
[01:13] <tga> nemik, you should already have wvdial in there
[01:13] <GhostFreeman> Well i've changed the settings but so far nothing visible
[01:13] <CookdGryphon> nemik, already installed
[01:13] <Red_Bullet> pleeeese
[01:13] <Red_Bullet> helppp mee
[01:13] <Red_Bullet> i have a big problem
[01:13] <CookdGryphon> nemik, its easier to use the gnome applet tho
[01:13] <nemik> great, and it is GUI? i don't want her going to terminal... :D
[01:13] <cafuego> Red_Bullet: Two people have told you what to do now.
[01:13] <Red_Bullet> how to download .torrents
[01:13] <tga> nemik, right, try the gnome applet first
[01:14] <tga> Red_Bullet, with your web browser
[01:14] <erUSUL> yonil, it works for me. i have never tried an gui aplication though
[01:14] <cafuego> Red_Bullet: It not OUR fault you choose to ignore them. Go read the manuale pages or something.
[01:14] <nemik> cookd, so the gnome aplet is there by default though
[01:14] <bitkrom> hi
[01:14] <CookdGryphon> nemik, yup
[01:14] <CookdGryphon> :D
[01:14] <tga> nemik, yes
[01:14] <nemik> great!
[01:14] <bobbyd> nemik, if the laptop has a soft-modem you'll need to get an external modem
[01:14] <nemik> man i love this more and more
[01:14] <CookdGryphon> u need to right click on the panel and say add to panel
[01:14] <mpm2> twibbler: I inevitably will end up reinstalling just to fix a cd-burning problem that seems to happen on my system; first it burns and then after time, it no longer works.  I know the answer is out there somewhere, I think I'm just having bad luck tracking it down
[01:14] <bobbyd> nemik, serial ones are cheap though
[01:14] <rainmaker> tga, still no luck with the messege notifacation
[01:14] <CookdGryphon> and its in the list
[01:14] <rainmaker> =(
[01:15] <tga> rainmaker, what exactly did you enable?
[01:15] <_reset> no audio output in totem-xine
[01:15] <bitkrom> when you enter auto copy a url by being over it. and you got to click it into the browser it highlights the default url...whats your way around this?
[01:15] <_reset> why?
[01:15] <twibbler> mpm2: a simply quick test is reduce the speed of the cd ...
[01:15] <Red_Bullet> but i want to start bittorrent no bittornado
[01:15] <nemik> i can't wait to be free of windows completely...
[01:15] <rainmaker> tga, i figured it out :)
[01:15] <rainmaker> forgot to choose wich notifacation method
[01:15] <tga> rainmaker, alright :)
[01:16] <twibbler> mpm2: also if sperodic... clean the CD burner ...
[01:16] <rainmaker> I think #ubuntu needs a sub channel for newbie questions
[01:16] <CookdGryphon> nemik,  i am free of windows already!! i even scraped the surface off the lil mettaliccy designed for windows xp sticker on my laptop and changed it to ubuntu an drew the lil logo with a felt pen
[01:16] <rainmaker> nice CookdGryphon :)
[01:16] <twibbler> rainmaker: isnt the ubuntu channel for newbies ...
[01:17] <matthew> rainmaker:  That's the faq.
[01:17] <tga> so is there a nice ubuntu handbook coming?
[01:17] <CookdGryphon> rainmaker, it has ubotu to refer newbies to answers for commonly asked questions
[01:17] <nemik> cookd nice! i still need it for a few things; may dual boot though. but already put ubuntu server on my SMS servers (perfect with root access, stupid sudo) and put it in my family room for family. got really tired of formatting windows ever 3 months
[01:17] <rainmaker> i see
[01:17] <jl_> thatwould be nice. but ubuntuguide.org is the best thing going otherwise
[01:18] <jl_> freebsd book for linux will never come around.
[01:18] <CookdGryphon> nemik u can enable root acces if u really want it
[01:18] <jl_> freebsd *like* book i mean
[01:19] <FR500> tga: something i forgot, what port should i forward?
[01:19] <nemik> cookd, yea i know. i did. now everything is stable. sudo was wierd. would lose permissions to frequently accessed folders chmodded 777
[01:19] <tga> jl_, the gentoo handbook is also nice
[01:19] <jl_> it is.... indeed
[01:19] <tga> FR500, what's the first option on the gdm xdmcp page?
[01:19] <FR500> 177
[01:20] <tga> FR500, bingo
[01:20] <DewDude> i learned more about installing linux reding the gentoo handbook than anything else
[01:20] <FR500> tga: i thought that one was for remote login only
[01:20] <Zhukov_> agree DewDude
[01:20] <nemik> dewdude, same here. wasn't successful, but did learn a lot! :D
[01:20] <Zhukov_> except by using Linux daily
[01:20] <DewDude> heh
[01:20] <DewDude> i got my kernal going
[01:20] <DewDude> that was it
[01:20] <Zhukov_> i sucedeed after a lot of hours netless and xless
[01:20] <DewDude> like, id idn't want to compile everything
[01:20] <tga> FR500, that's the only way you can access gdm through udp.. there is no 'local only' port
[01:20] <nemik> gentoo scared me away from linux for quite a long time. ubuntu made me try it again
[01:21] <DewDude> ahh, see, i have a seperate computer for linux
[01:21] <FR500> ok
[01:21] <Zhukov_> nemik, gentoo made me thirsty for more :D
[01:21] <DewDude> like, i got my network and kernal configured
[01:21] <jl_> ubuntu is about 95% on my laptop. fix hibernate and I'll be golden!
[01:21] <nemik> hehe, i didn't have the time for that kind of thirst
[01:21] <DewDude> i had a nice litle comsole system
[01:21] <jl_> as well as a decent network manager.
[01:21] <spokeydokey> hey, anyone here play FlightGear?
[01:21] <tga> jl_, what lappy? I can't get hibernate or suspend to ram working either
[01:21] <jl_> ububntu rox
[01:21] <DewDude> i just..didn't feel like waiting a week to compile my deskto
[01:21] <DewDude> desktop
[01:21] <jl_> tga, hp nc6120
[01:21] <Zhukov_> i always hated Windows and macOs, "linux is my soul mate os" as someone already said
[01:22] <jl_> tga, i'll grab ya the wiki link i am maintaining
[01:22] <DewDude> Zhukov_, i have to keep a windows machine around for audio-production...but i hate macos too
[01:22] <rainmaker> i definatly dont hate mac OSX
[01:22] <DewDude> in fact, first thing i did after getting this mac was toss linux on it
[01:22] <rainmaker> its a very nice os
[01:22] <mike77> has anyone set up the evolution mail with gmail.??
[01:23] <rainmaker> DewDude, why buy a mac if your not going to run osx on it?
[01:23] <jl_> tga,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HPNC6120
[01:23] <rainmaker> then you might as well get a cheaper pc
[01:23] <DewDude> i didn't buy this mac
[01:23] <DewDude> it's old
[01:23] <DewDude> it was free
[01:23] <erUSUL> mike77, yes
[01:23] <DewDude> rainmaker: http://itux.ath.cx
[01:23] <mike77> Could you offer some help.. I can send mail but can't get any.
[01:23] <DewDude> there's a stats link if you wanna see how slow this thing is
[01:23] <nemik> what GUI-based app would you all recommend for CD buring (data and music) sister is clamouring for it. nero is not free and no recent linux keygens! :D
[01:23] <DewDude> k3b
[01:24] <zenrox> gnomebaker
[01:24] <thrush_2> either of those
[01:24] <nemik> cool thanks
[01:24] <erUSUL> mike77,  what error you get if any?
[01:24] <CookdGryphon> mike77 yes
[01:24] <tga> jl_, nice, I'll have a wiki page ready for my lappy too
[01:24] <mike77> not any....
[01:25] <mike77> im in options to set up my mail
[01:25] <CookdGryphon> i take it uve gone in ure gmail options and enabled pop?
[01:25] <mike77> under pop..
[01:25] <mike77> ya
[01:25] <cute_bettong> [URL=http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot5hz.png] [IMG] http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1690/screenshot5hz.th.png[/IMG] [/URL]
[01:25] <cute_bettong> my theme ^^
[01:25] <erUSUL> mike77, you have activated pop3 acces through web interface, hadn't you?
[01:25] <mike77> That's where I would be lost i guess
[01:25] <mike77> sorry very new to this
[01:26] <johndarkhorse> rainmaker: i bought my pwermac to  run ubuntu on it
[01:26] <mike77> linux
[01:26] <jdermer> hey guys
[01:26] <mike77> Where would I go to activate it
[01:26] <rainmaker> johndarkhorse, why?
[01:26] <rainmaker> thats a waste of money
[01:26] <jdermer> how does 3d work on ubuntu
[01:26] <jdermer> is it like automatic
[01:26] <Zhukov_> case its beautifull
[01:26] <flugh> cool, i dist-upgraded to breezy, and it hasn't crashed much :)
[01:26] <rainmaker> jdermer, install the drivers
[01:26] <jdermer> or do i need to get nvidia drivers and stuff
[01:27] <jdermer> search synaptic for nvidia
[01:27] <DewDude> jdermer: depends on your system
[01:27] <erUSUL> mike77, you have to log into your gmail accaunt with a web browser and activate pop acces
[01:27] <johndarkhorse> rainmaker: in my experience, i get more done with linux
[01:27] <mike77> oh yes, that has been done
[01:27] <DewDude> i've got a mac and a Ati Rage 128...i had to manualy enable the ati driver to get DRI
[01:27] <mike77> But on the evolution I dont have a pop3, just a pop configuration
[01:27] <DewDude> however, the ATI support blows
[01:27] <rainmaker> johndarkhorse, but then again you could have bought a better PC and saved money
[01:27] <tga> my touchpad goes crazy the first time I touch it after a reboot, then it works fine
[01:28] <tga> anyone saw this before?
[01:28] <flugh> i get more done with linux, because i don't know how to run half-life under it
[01:28] <johndarkhorse> rainmaker: let us continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:28] <mindframe> what binary is it that monitor's laptop battery power, and will it work in fluxbox?
[01:28] <Zhukov_> flugh, what??
[01:28] <mike77> On the evolution I had no option to put a port number in
[01:29] <flugh> Zhukov_: johndarkhorse said 'i get more done with linux'. me too :)
[01:29] <flugh> everytime i boot to windows to 'work', i end up fraggin'
[01:29] <FR500> tga: then after tunel is working, do i run the xdcmp chooser again?
[01:29] <tga> mindframe, one crude way to go around it would be to look in /proc/acpi/battery/
[01:29] <Zhukov_> mike77, http://www.linuxforums.org/tutorials/1/tutorial-52687.html
[01:29] <Zhukov_> next time mike77 google a little bit before, ok? :)
[01:30] <erUSUL> mike77, security -> use secure connection that will do
[01:30] <mindframe> tga: so it wont work in flux?
[01:30] <tga> FR500, yes. you should have xdmcp enabled in gdm
[01:30] <mike77> thank you
[01:30] <spokeydokey> I'm having a problem with Flight Gear, it seems to perpetually load the scenery
[01:30] <spokeydokey> The sound is still coming through and it looks like the scenery is fine, but it still has the dialog Scenery Loading...
[01:31] <tga> mindframe, I don't know any specific app that will work in flux but take a look at apt-cache search battery
[01:31] <mindframe> k thanks
[01:32] <Zhukov_> my will to programe right now is as big as my will to have a green tail
[01:33] <dylan_> is /dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom any different from eachother?
[01:33] <h0sl3r> anyone use fluxspace?
[01:33] <CookdGryphon> dylan_, don't think so
[01:33] <dylan_> CookdGryphon, so why is dma set on /dev/cdrom and not on /dev/hdc
[01:33] <CookdGryphon> when i change my hdparm.conf, it makes no differ.. bugger i jstu realised my mistake
[01:34] <dylan_> CookdGryphon, oh so dma IS on?
[01:34] <CookdGryphon> dylan_, when i set it on cdrom it comes up on hdc
[01:34] <jdermer> wow some of the packages tha synpatic has are really old
[01:34] <CookdGryphon> jstu a min, have u set it on cdrom0?
[01:34] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[01:34] <CookdGryphon> or cdrom?
[01:34] <jdermer> for example gdesklets
[01:34] <dylan_> CookdGryphon, cdrom
[01:35] <CookdGryphon> dylan_, intersting...
[01:35] <CookdGryphon> and hdparm /dev/cdrom gives different results to hdparm /dev/hdc ?
[01:36] <dylan_> CookdGryphon, when i do mount /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd or even /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd nothing happens
[01:36] <mindframe> h0sl3r, fluxspace looks interesting.  i might try it out.  is it as light as fluxbox?
[01:36] <Kuresu> can anyone help me configure my sound card so that i will support OSS and ALSA sound drivers
[01:36] <jl_> there.. finished the wiki updates tga :) found a few more things that ended up working fine.
[01:36] <tga> cool
[01:36] <h0sl3r> mindframe: I wouldnt know. I cant get it to work right, haha. I might be setting it up wrong though because I cant find a straight forward guide.
[01:36] <jl_> tga,   which one is your wiki?
[01:36] <jl_> i'd like to compare notes
[01:36] <dylan_> CookdGryphon, so what?
[01:37] <kemik> dylan_:  where is you cdrom? primary master, primary slave, sec master or sec. slave?
[01:37] <gf> why did they take away the terminal shortcut from teh right click menu in breezy??
[01:37] <erUSUL> Kuresu, that is impossible
[01:37] <dylan_> sec slave
[01:37] <tga> jl_, none so far, I'll add FujitsuS2010
[01:37] <h0sl3r> mindframe: I think its suppose to run on top of fluxbox.
[01:37] <kemik> /dev/hdd then
[01:37] <mindframe> ahh
[01:37] <erUSUL> Kuresu,  you can enable oss emulation on alsa
[01:37] <jl_> tga,   nice
[01:37] <kemik> gf:  think it was a decision in Gnome, not ubuntu... (not sure)
[01:37] <gf> ah
[01:37] <gf> cuz i miss it :(
[01:38] <mindframe> h0sl3r, correct.  fluxbox or blackbox is one of its dependencies
[01:38] <kemik> must be someway to readd it
[01:38] <cevizoglu> I just dist-upgraded an i386 pc from warty to hoary and lost my xserver connection.  How would I restore it?
[01:38] <kemik> i know i'll want it there
[01:38] <cevizoglu> I rebooted after the upgrade
[01:39] <cevizoglu> when I dist-upgraded a second time, it looked like I had to dist-upgrade -f because some dependencies got in the way of the upgrade
[01:39] <Zhukov_> cevizoglu, try this
[01:39] <Zhukov_> sudo gdm
[01:39] <jl_> off to file some bugs.  bbl
[01:40] <] BreliC[> hey.. has everyone ever experienced a strange distortion when you play sounds in Ubuntu?
[01:40] <jdermer> or is it just me
[01:40] <lymz> how do i detect and configure my wireless nic? (it was available during setup, but i didn't configure it then)
[01:40] <Kuresu> erUSUL, how?
[01:40] <LethAL-Rocks> lymz, get a real nic and buy me one too
[01:40] <mindframe> ] BreliC[, not I, try turning down the PCM volume
[01:40] <] BreliC[> everything was fine, then I tried to change my sound to ALSA instead of ESD (in Multimedia Systems Selector).. anyway, i put it back and since then, the sound is distorted
[01:40] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[01:40] <Zhukov_> ] BreliC[, tryed the ubuntuguide?
[01:40] <erUSUL> ] BreliC[, yes my old pci128 and my maxtor didn't play well together
[01:41] <lymz> oh yea, this is on my laptop :-p
[01:41] <] BreliC[> mindframe, i did.. not sure it's that.. it's more than distorted.. it's almost like it has a bad flange effect (or robotic) of some sort
[01:41] <mindframe> hrmm
[01:41] <erUSUL> Kuresu, when you compile the kernel. The ubuntu kernel should have this enabled
[01:41] <rainmaker> is beep media player in the ubuntu repos?
[01:41] <] BreliC[> mindframe, yeah, i did take a look at ubuntu guide, but couldn't really find anything.  doesn't help that i can't describe my problem properly
[01:42] <h0sl3r> mindframe: I cant get my backgrounds to work when I install a new theme. The style is using the command bsetbg. Should I change it to something else?
[01:42] <erUSUL> i can't tell as i run a vanill 2.6.13
[01:42] <CookdGryphon> Does anybody know what i can do to find out what speed the cd-rw/dvd-rom in my laptop is meant to run at, hdparm has cdrom set to 2x at the moment, and tis killing me!
[01:42] <mindframe> h0sl3r, fsetbg -f /path/to/wall.png
[01:42] <h0sl3r> ok
[01:42] <cevizoglu> that's odd, with the dist-upgrade -f it looks like it upgraded way more packages than it should have to, since I already did a dist-upgrade the first time
[01:43] <h0sl3r> mindframe: also how do i get my dockapps to load on startup?
[01:43] <jdermer> do any of you use gdesklets ?
[01:43] <thrush_2> CookdGryphon, you might need to enable dma
[01:43] <LethAL-Rocks> jdermer: No, are they any good?
[01:43] <Vektram> is the help for synaptic out of date?
[01:44] <dabaR> My sound sounds like in a tunnel. I started esd, and I am playing with mp4player through cplay.
[01:44] <dabaR> Echo like in a tunnel.
[01:44] <dabaR> What can I do, I dont think it did this before, as in last night.
[01:44] <luite> I'm trying to upgrade to kernel 2.6.13 and I've built a kernel with make-kpkg (config based on 2.6.12 breezy default kernel), but when trying to boot it, grub hangs when booting the kernel. What could be wrong?
[01:44] <jdermer> i cant get it to work properly
[01:45] <lymz> during installation of breezybadger on my laptop it found my wireless nic.  I didn't configure it during setup, anyway i can configure it now?
[01:45] <Zhukov_> is breezy wort upgrading?
[01:45] <zblach> hi. how can you set up amarok?
[01:45] <cevizoglu> zhukov: if you don't mind the possibility of reverting, yes
[01:45] <dabaR> zblach: that is a very bad question.
[01:46] <CookdGryphon> thrush_2, i ahve enables dma, and its jerky as ever
[01:46] <tmulle> hi all
[01:46] <cevizoglu> zhukov: dist-upgrade -f solved my broken xserver problem
[01:46] <Zhukov_> cevizoglu, i did it with hoary, but it is better not...cant affor to be without pc to work
[01:46] <zblach> dabaR, why?
[01:46] <dabaR> cause you dont say what you awnt.
[01:46] <zblach> dabaR, ok.
[01:46] <zblach> a-hem. why is it I get no sound when using amarok?
[01:46] <tmulle> anyone been succesful installing either 5.04 or 5.10 on a Tyan Tiger S2460 system? Both installations lock up on me, usually after HAL is started
[01:47] <jdermer> i think i know why gdesklets is being lame
[01:47] <jdermer> is there a way to like downgrade a package with synpatic ?
[01:47] <mindframe> h0sl3r, edit the init file and put a line "session.appsFile: /path/to/apps-config"
[01:47] <tmulle> the live CD's run just fine
[01:47] <dabaR> zblach: have you looked at what sound daemon it is using?
[01:48] <zblach> thats what i need help setting up
[01:48] <zblach> which sound daemon should it be using?
[01:48] <jdermer> anyone ?
[01:48] <dabaR> zblach: are you using gnome?
[01:48] <DewDude> i can install gnome and KDE on ubuntu and select which one i want upon boot right?
[01:48] <zblach> dabaR, yes
[01:48] <tga> DewDude, yes
[01:48] <DewDude> ok
[01:48] <dabaR> zblach: your gnome likely uses esd.
[01:48] <DewDude> i might install gnome
[01:48] <DewDude> just to try it
[01:49] <dabaR> DewDude: no, not on boot, during login through your dm.
[01:49] <tga> DewDude, install ubuntu-desktop to get the full experience
[01:49] <DewDude> yeah, that's what i mean
[01:49] <tmulle> my system is a dual athlon 1800+ with 512MB ram
[01:49] <DewDude> sesson type
[01:49] <dabaR> DewDude: you said it wrong!;)
[01:49] <DewDude> well, i'm sorry
[01:49] <DewDude> i'm high
[01:49] <dabaR> $10.
[01:49] <zblach> dabaR, the sound daemon is alright, it just refuses to play music
[01:49] <mindframe> h0sl3r, in the apps file you have to put like [startup]  {binary name}
[01:49] <tmulle> and I didn't see anything in the ubuntu forums regarding any tyan issues :(
[01:49] <dabaR> zblach: I dont use amarok. why are you using that, anyhow in gnome?
[01:49] <DewDude> is installing ubuntu-desktop going to mess config files up?
[01:50] <jdermer> anyone?
[01:50] <DewDude> or will i not even know it's there till i use it
[01:50] <dabaR> DewDude: no.
[01:50] <h0sl3r> mindframe: where is the apps file?
[01:50] <DewDude> ok
[01:50] <zblach> dabaR, xmms wasn't cutting it for me
[01:50] <dabaR> you will never be using ubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <mindframe> h0sl3r, you have to define it in the init file
[01:50] <mindframe> h0sl3r, edit the init file and put a line "session.appsFile: /path/to/apps-config"
[01:50] <tga> zblach, gnome has rhythmbox
[01:50] <zblach> tga, any good?
[01:50] <DewDude> errr...whatever
[01:50] <tga> zblach, among other things
[01:50] <dabaR> it is a list of packages that make up the standard ubuntu desktop.
[01:50] <DewDude> ok
[01:50] <tga> zblach, it's alright.. very iTunes-like
[01:50] <h0sl3r> ok
[01:50] <dabaR> and your apt-get will remove it at some point.
[01:50] <mindframe> h0sl3r, i dunno where fluxspace drops it by default though
[01:51] <mindframe> h0sl3r, fluxbox puts it in ~/.fluxbox/init
[01:51] <DewDude> but if i install the packages, kde's not gonna funk up on me?
[01:51] <tga> DewDude, no
[01:51] <DewDude> ok
[01:51] <DewDude> good deal
[01:51] <DewDude> i just wanted verification
[01:51] <tga> DewDude, you can safely have both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed on your system
[01:51] <DewDude> i spent 2 hours fixing this thing last night
[01:51] <DewDude> i don't want to screw it up again
[01:51] <tga> DewDude, you'll just have more files to upgrade every time something new comes up
[01:51] <eheh> Hi, I have a 3dfx voodoo card installed on my computer, I just installed Ubuntu. How do I go about installing the correct video drivers? I searched for linux drivers for the card, I only came up with one that said the system requirement was redhat 6.1
[01:52] <jdermer> please guys
[01:52] <hobby> #ubuntu-es
[01:52] <DewDude> tga: not an issue
[01:52] <dabaR> jdermer: stop asking...if I knew Id tell you.
[01:52] <zblach> tga, does it decide to 'organize' your music folder for you?
[01:52] <samu2> when i installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu, everything of course was still running. but... the menus felt really messy with some duplicate apps and then having both gnome and kde versions of the same type of app.
[01:53] <tga> zblach, not by default.. it might be an option
[01:53] <tmulle> oh well..guess i'm on my own :(
[01:53] <dabaR> samu2: it seems to me that each and every entry in the menus can be removed, as it is associated with a file in a folder.
[01:53] <zblach> tga, i have to add plugins??
[01:53] <jdermer> i got python-xdg 0.9.1 installed
[01:53] <jdermer> and i need 8.0
[01:53] <jdermer> which is obviously older
[01:53] <tga> zblach, depends on what you want it to do
[01:53] <zblach> tga, mp3
[01:53] <jdermer> but i need it to make gdesklets work right
[01:53] <Pyf> anyone know how to install the player for last.fm?
[01:53] <tga> zblach, it should Just Work
[01:54] <zblach> 'no plugin installed to handle *.mp3"
[01:54] <tga> Pyf, they have a player? or you mean the scrobbler plugin
[01:54] <tga> !tell zblach about mp3
[01:54] <Pyf> tga: i mean the player, for the radio section.... http://www.last.fm/postsignup.php
[01:55] <dabaR> jdermer: you have upgraded your system, by using breezy, or backports packages further than the hoary-supported system.
[01:55] <samu2> dabaR, oh yeah, i wasnt saying you cant restore the order. i just thought that having both installed at the same time, had its quirks.
[01:55] <cevizoglu> how do I make Terminal default to show menubar off?
[01:55] <dabaR> Ya, it was annoying when I did that too.
[01:55] <Pyf> its really good, i would advise it (from when i ran it with windows), cant get it to work with ubuntu though
[01:55] <jdermer> nope
[01:55] <jdermer> i didnt
[01:55] <dabaR> samu2: ^, also, I use openbox now, and screen in a console...I am enjoying that...
[01:55] <jdermer> just synaptic from the hoary repos
[01:55] <dabaR> jdermer: how come you have a higher version than is needed?
[01:56] <IcE-bOy> i have upgraded to breezy and now when i do make menuconfig en kernel i get this error:
[01:56] <thrush_2> Pyf, there is a linux binary on their site..
[01:56] <IcE-bOy> scripts/basic/fixdep.c:105:23: error: sys/types.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[01:56] <jdermer> thats eithr wut came with hoary or thats wut synaptic updated to
[01:56] <IcE-bOy> what could happend ?
[01:56] <dabaR> see, jdermer the python-xdg package is normally what is installed when you install smeg.
[01:56] <jdermer> wuts that
[01:57] <dabaR> synaptic uses what you tell it to. Do you use the ubuntuguide at times?
[01:57] <Pyf> thrush_2: ive tried to run that, i cd to the right folder, and then ./player but it just sits there and nothing happens, am i doing it wrong?
[01:57] <dooglus> does anyone have some example UTF-8 text with multi-byte characters that I could borrow please?
[01:57] <samu2> dabaR, openbox?
[01:57] <jdermer> wut do u mean it uses wut u tell it to
[01:57] <dabaR> samu2: ya, .org.
[01:57] <dabaR> please speak english.
[01:57] <thrush_2> Pyf, lemme play with it for a sec =)
[01:57] <dabaR> Its hard for me to read that way.
[01:58] <rainmaker> do i need an mp3 plugin for beep media player?
[01:58] <Pyf> thrush_2: thx
[01:58] <dabaR> you specify the sources.list, the repositories from which to get packages. in any case, 0.9.1 is standard hoary.
[01:58] <cevizoglu> Icr-b0y: I don't even know what language that is
[01:58] <jdermer> i told u it was
[01:58] <dabaR> jdermer: are you trying to install gdesklets, or something?
[01:58] <jdermer> yea
[01:58] <Zhukov_> jdermer, just install gdesklets
[01:58] <IcE-bOy> spanish
[01:58] <jdermer> the starterbar desklet for gdesklets
[01:58] <IcE-bOy> in what package are sys/types.h ? ?
[01:58] <jdermer> requires python-xdg 0.8
[01:59] <Zhukov_> oh
[01:59] <jdermer> 0.9 isnt compatable
[01:59] <dabaR> sudo aptitude install gdesklets
[01:59] <Zhukov_> you can always enligth your gnome
[01:59] <Zhukov_> jdermer, it works out better
[01:59] <jdermer> ?
[01:59] <jdermer> wut would enlightenment accomplish ?
[02:00] <cevizoglu> IcE-bOy - sys/types.h is part of the core
[02:00] <Zhukov_> jdermer, there is an entry at the ubuntuforums.org
[02:00] <jdermer> about
[02:00] <Zhukov_> use the search option and there is and entry about
[02:01] <Zhukov_> how to enligth you gnome, or ultimate eyecandy for gnome, something like that
[02:01] <Zhukov_> w8
[02:01] <IcE-bOy> cevizoglu: in breezy when i try to do a make menuconfig in kernel source i get this meesage
[02:02] <cevizoglu> IcE-bOy: you should ask your question on #ubuntu-es, since it's in spanish
[02:02] <Zhukov_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=ultimate+eyecandy
[02:02] <Zhukov_> here
[02:02] <zcat[1] > anyole else trying to get breezy onto an oldworld PPC?
[02:03] <thrush_2> Pyf, are you running i386?
[02:03] <matthew_w> Guys
[02:03] <matthew_w> Seriously look at this logo http://spaces.msn.com/
[02:03] <matthew_w> Tell me that is not ubuntu.
[02:03] <IcE-bOy> cevizoglu: yes ... but i can ask here too
[02:03] <matthew_w> Someone high up in the ubuntu ranks should know about that.
[02:03] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> matthew_w: people ave been over this
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> over and over
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> leave it
[02:03] <cevizoglu> IcE-bOy: in english, yeah
[02:03] <Pyf> thrush_2: err what is that? how wouold i knw....?
[02:04] <dylan_> are /dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom et cetera the same thing?
[02:04] <zcat[1] > usually /dev/cdrom is a softlink that points to /dev/hdc (or wherever)
[02:04] <thrush_2> did you unpak the archive "tar .."?
[02:04] <LethAL-Rocks> Could someone give me some more help? How do I get gtk themes working in root applications like Synaptic
[02:05] <dylan_> zcat[1] , so why is /dev/hdc 's dma not on, but /dev/cdrom IS ON.
[02:05] <Pyf> thrush_2: yeah, unpacked the whole folder to my desktop, then in terminal cd /home/desktop...etc... then ./player
[02:05] <Pyf> it just sits there flashing
[02:05] <zcat[1] > ls -l /dev/cdrom and check where yours is pointing? it may be /dev/hdd
[02:05] <Pyf> and i have to ctrl c to get it to stop...
[02:06] <mindframe> matthew_w, i dont understand how that is related to ubuntu
[02:06] <Vektram> can anyone help me with installing VLC?
[02:06] <dylan_> /dev/cdrom points to /dev/hdc
[02:06] <zcat[1] > ok, that's just weird then :)
[02:06] <matthew_w> mindframe; look at the logo
[02:06] <dylan_> zcat[1] , so how can i set dma to on (or 1, whatever) on /dev/hdc?
[02:06] <thrush_2> Pyf, strange comes right up when i run it
[02:06] <mindframe> oh right
[02:06] <zcat[1] > hdparm I think..
[02:07] <Zhukov_> anyone knows how i can restore the navigation bars in firefox?Those to sroll up and down
[02:07] <Sly> hdparm -da1 /bah/me .......... i beleive
[02:07] <Sly> -d1*
[02:07] <Vektram> can anyone help me with adding repositories?
[02:07] <Pyf> thrush_2: cam u think of any reason why it wouldnt, i thought it cud be to do with permissions, but i dont think that can be it....
[02:07] <dylan_> zcat[1] , i can hdparm those drives, but i however cannot make it permanent, even with a /etc/hdparm.conf edit
[02:07] <Vektram> i've tried to add the VLC player repositories listed on thier website and get the following error "http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/dists/sarge/debian/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found"
[02:08] <zcat[1] > I'm not really familiar with how hdparm works sorry..
[02:08] <Vektram> i know what the problem is, just not how to fix it
[02:08] <mathmatt> is there an easy way to "upgrade" from hoary to 5.10?
[02:09] <thrush_2> Pyf, lemme play with source one more sec
[02:09] <dylan_> zcat[1] , ok wait nevermind ... /dev/cdrom and /dev/hdc both say no to dma.....its not on.  i was mistaken
[02:09] <zcat[1] > change repos and apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:09] <Pyf> thrush_2: cheers
[02:09] <dylan_> zcat[1] , must i set it to both drives?
[02:09] <zcat[1] > dylan_: 'unknown' - I would expect only /dev/hdc, since /dev/cdrom isn't actually a device..
[02:10] <dylan_> zcat[1] , oh i see.....well i just set it to all my drives.
[02:10] <jdermer> yikes
[02:10] <thrush_2> Pyf, what kernel are you running?
[02:10] <dylan_> zcat[1] , i have a 52x cdrom drive and it copies cds at 3.8x.....ouch
[02:10] <jdermer> the gdesklets in the repos are just like so messed up
[02:11] <Pyf> thrush_2: err hoary, with kubuntu desktop
[02:11] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyone know how to 're-enable' the scroll on my mouse without reconfiguring X?
[02:11] <Pyf> but had the problem before and after kubuntu desktop...
[02:12] <thrush_2> Pyf, goto /boot what is the full vmlinuz filename?
[02:13] <mathmatt> I am running hoary, but would like to try out 5.10.  I downloaded the iso and have it on CD.  While running the installer, it seems that I have to wipe the partition to install.  Is this correct, or can I upgrade somehow?
[02:13] <mik3> what's some fun stuff to install
[02:13] <LethAL-Rocks> I dunno
[02:13] <dabaR> mathmatt: to upgrade, you dont need the cd. If you upgrade, the breezy is  not stable, so you might funk up your system.
[02:13] <LethAL-Rocks> linux-image's are fun to uninstall :P
[02:13] <gf> soh, no mythtv for breezy!!!!
[02:13] <gf> *doh
[02:13] <erUSUL> mathmatt, add the cd to the sources list
[02:14] <Pyf> thrush_2: vmlinuz.2.6-10-5-386
[02:14] <dylan_> is there a way that i can make a startup file that will enable dma for me?
[02:14] <Pyf> thrush_2: vmlinuz.2.6.10-5-386 even
[02:14] <Pyf> does that mean I am using i386?
[02:14] <LethAL-Rocks> Pyf: Yes
[02:14] <mathmatt> ok, thanks for the help.
[02:14] <hotte-> hi i need help plz how i can remove e link?
[02:14] <hotte-> sudo ln -d /usr/src/linux-2.6.13 /usr/src/linux
[02:15] <hotte-> thats wrong
[02:15] <hotte-> and now i cant remove my link
[02:15] <zcat[1] > well, breezy on x86 was truly a breeze!!
[02:15] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[02:15] <hotte-> sry sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.13 /usr/src/linux
[02:15] <hotte-> this was the right
[02:15] <hotte-> but now i will remove it how can i do?
[02:15] <zcat[1] > breezy on OldWorld is turning out a lot harder that Hoary was!
[02:16] <thrush_2> Pyf, it should run..try to redownload and extract sry man im off work. should be here tomarrow though if youre still having the problem =)
[02:16] <jdermer> question
[02:16] <jdermer> since the gdesklets in synaptic is messed up
[02:16] <jdermer> i got the source
[02:16] <jdermer> when i do ./configure
[02:16] <jdermer> it says there is no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:16] <durt> im not sure about the command hotte-, but you could sudo nautilus and just delete the link
[02:16] <LethAL-Rocks> Anyone? Know about re-enabling the scroller on my usb mouse without reconfiguring X?
[02:17] <hotte-> durt: no chance
[02:17] <hotte-> :(
[02:17] <lymz> applications that launch with gksudo command don't seem tot be working for me
[02:17] <hotte-> i tried 1000 times ... near ... but i couldn remove
[02:18] <reiki> jdemer: install build-essentials
[02:18] <dylan_> in hdparm.conf, how do i set a drive to keepsettings = 1?
[02:19] <dabaR> reiki: no s
[02:19] <hotte-> :(
[02:19] <reiki> jdemmer: build-essential ( no "s")
[02:20] <reiki> thanks, dabaR... I'm tryin :)
[02:20] <LinuxJones> I must say Breezy is gonna rock when it is finally released !!
[02:20] <durt> hotte-, maybe ln -f ...
[02:20] <hotte-> k
[02:20] <jdermer> k
[02:20] <jdermer> thanx installin it noqw
[02:20] <reiki> I'm getting all my experimenting done on Hoary and I'll just wipe and install clean for Breezy
[02:20] <dylan_> how do i make a drive set to keepsettings = 1
[02:21] <dylan_> hdparm.conf
[02:21] <hotte-> hotte@horst:~$ sudo ln -f /usr/src/linux-2.6.1 /usr/src/linux
[02:21] <hotte-> but no chance he does not found it
[02:21] <zcat[1] > OOo2, cool..
[02:21] <dreamwave> just testing out the breeze preview.  it seems to drive my intel 2200bg wireless better than xp.  so far, i'm very impressed.
[02:21] <reiki> I'd REALLY like to get my usb flash drive working reliably
[02:21] <dreamwave> live cd breezy
[02:22] <durt> whats wrong with it reiki?
[02:22] <Xorlev> Meh, I think my DI-524 router won't let me use IPv6 stuff. It works outbound, but seemingly not inbound.
[02:23] <reiki> durt: it worked ONCE... but couldn't read the files on the drive. The system saw the drive and mounted is in /media .... then the second time it didn't show up, and fdisk -l found it in /dec/sda
[02:23] <reiki> /dev/sda
[02:23] <jdermer> nother question
[02:23] <jdermer> i got the build-essential now
[02:23] <jdermer> so i went to do ./configure again
[02:23] <DigitALLRed> hello alll
[02:23] <jdermer> and this time
[02:23] <Sly> sorry had lil trouble
[02:23] <jdermer> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[02:23] <Xorlev> Hello DigitALLRed.
[02:24] <DigitALLRed> Xorlev, :)
[02:25] <Xorlev> digitalfox: Anything we can do for ya?
[02:25] <Xorlev> Meh
[02:25] <Xorlev> Wrong person
[02:25] <Xorlev> DigitALLRed: Anything we can do for ya?
[02:25] <ilba7r> !breezy
[02:26] <Xorlev> !windy
[02:26] <ubotu> Xorlev: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:26] <Vektram> jdermer: try getting a package called "intltool" from apt-get
[02:26] <DigitALLRed> Xorlev, nope, just visiting... this is my first time on this channel
[02:27] <Xorlev> Ahh okies.
[02:27] <gyaresu> join #gentoo
[02:27] <DigitALLRed> Xorlev, i`ve installed ubuntu a few times... gnome packages are great
[02:27] <jdermer> k ill try
[02:28] <Vektram> jdermer: i got that error with something (forgot what) installed intltool and it fixed it right away
[02:30] <lassesandberg> hi people
[02:30] <LinuxJones> lassesandberg, welcome
[02:30] <dabaR> Anyone played freedoom?
[02:30] <mik3> yah
[02:30] <mik3> well lxdoom
[02:30] <lassesandberg> can anyone here help me? i know pretty much nothing about linux. im trying to get media files to work. video. totem player will only play sound from them
[02:31] <jdermer> hmm
[02:31] <lilricky> what sort of video files?
[02:31] <lassesandberg> avi
[02:31] <jdermer> now ./configure is saying it cant find python.h
[02:31] <jdermer> and it needs the python dev package
[02:31] <durt> is usbfs mounted reiki, i really dont know how to help - sorry
[02:31] <lassesandberg> well, i would also like other formats to work. like wml. mpg and such
[02:31] <jdermer> i think i got it intalled alrdy tho
[02:31] <lilricky> need to install the windows codecs
[02:31] <DonL> dabaR, Yes. I just installed freedoom last week or so, and I'm stuck at one level now
[02:31] <lilricky> hold on, I'll try to find you a link
[02:31] <imterro> hello
[02:31] <imterro> would someone be able to help me with my wireless network
[02:32] <imterro> im trying to connect to a router
[02:32] <jdermer> yes i can help u with wireless
[02:32] <durt> trying to get your wlan card to work?
[02:32] <imterro> jdermer, cool, well it is telling me that the wireless network is up, yet i cant ping the router
[02:32] <jdermer> wuts it
[02:33] <imterro> wuts?
[02:33] <lilricky> here ya go lasses http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[02:33] <jdermer> u said IT is telling me the wireless network is up
[02:33] <jdermer> what is "IT"
[02:33] <lassesandberg> thanks alot
[02:33] <dylan_> how do i make a startup script to enable dma on my cdrom drives?
[02:33] <jdermer> ure gonna have to be specific if u want help
[02:33] <imterro> ah ubuntu
[02:33] <dylan_> jdermer, can you help me please
[02:33] <imterro> i ifconfig'd
[02:34] <jdermer> with wut dylan_
[02:34] <imterro> and it told me, up broadcast multicast
[02:34] <jdermer> u using ndiswrapper ?
[02:34] <imterro> i don tknow what that is
[02:34] <dylan_> jdermer, i want to make a script, that on startup will enable dma on my /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd drives, as the /etc/hdparm.conf file will not do it form me
[02:34] <imterro> but it is ment to be dhcp
[02:34] <dabaR> mik3: same thing...did you ever get past level 3?
[02:35] <imterro> and its not being assigned an ipadd
[02:35] <lilricky> sigh, why cant ATI make decent linux drivers?  Got to jump through so many hoops just to get glxgears to run decently :(
[02:35] <imterro> its keeping the one i set for it at install
[02:35] <imterro> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:35] <jdermer> imterro ure new to this huh lol
[02:35] <mik3> naw i couldn't figure out how to open doors hehe
[02:35] <dabaR> ok.
[02:35] <Agrajag> spacebar
[02:35] <Agrajag> unless they changed it from the original
[02:35] <lakcaj> Does anyone know why alsaconf is not in alsa-utils?
[02:35] <jdermer> imterro wut wireless card u got
[02:35] <mik3> nope, but thanks captain obvious!
[02:35] <dabaR> Agrajag: ever got past level 3? it seems to be a room with no exits...
[02:36] <Agrajag> in what, doom, or some clone?
[02:36] <dabaR> free doom.
[02:36] <dylan_> jdermer, do you know how to do it?
[02:36] <Agrajag> oh, never played it
[02:36] <mik3> lxdoom
[02:36] <durt> dylan_ is the script written already?
[02:36] <eamonn> Hi all. I just dist-updated to breezy from hoary tonight and have two remaining issues. I don't have usplash (is there something else I'm supposed to do?) and Skype is unuseable because most of the interface appears all black.
[02:36] <DonL> I can't remember the level I'm stuck at, but there's no monstors, and the only door that looks like it leads somewhere only lets you in it partially
[02:36] <dylan_> um, i know how to set dma with sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc but i do not know where to put the script...
[02:36] <dabaR> lxdoom seems to be just a wrapper around free doom.
[02:37] <imterro> jdermer, i just have the one that comes std with an acer aspire 210
[02:37] <dylan_> jdermer, will you help me write and place the script?
[02:37] <imterro> *2010
[02:37] <mik3> yeah i installed a bunch of crap
[02:37] <dabaR> DonL: ya, 3rd level, seems that is how they made it, only one level really...
[02:37] <DonL> dabaR, so that's the one. I'd like to know how to get past it
[02:37] <dabaR> You cant pass the one level but on easiest anyhow...well, I cant yet anyhow...
[02:38] <dabaR> DonL: Ill let you know if I find anything out.
[02:38] <DonL> Great. Thanks!
[02:38] <dylan_> jdermer, please help
[02:38] <durt> dylan_ put "script.sh" (whatever its named) in /etc/init.d - then run "sudo update-rc.d script.sh defaults"
[02:38] <kent> what wiki is used for Ubuntulinux.org's wiki?
[02:38] <jdermer> y are u asking me dylan_
[02:39] <reiki> my usb flashdrive is now showing up in /media/usbdisk ... however there doesn't appear to be a way to unmount it from the GUI
[02:39] <dylan_> jdermer, i assume you know......and how do i write the script correctly please?
[02:39] <durt> reiki, right click on the icon on the desktop and hit unmount
[02:39] <dreamwave> i just used the disk manager to enable my windows ntfs drive.  it is enabled but only root has access to it.  how to I make the ubuntu user have access to it?  i'm using the breezy live preview cd.
[02:39] <jdermer> y would u assume that i know
[02:39] <reiki> durt: there is no desktop icon
[02:39] <thoreauputic> kent: moin moin I seem to recall
[02:40] <reiki> durt: I found it by navigating to /media directory
[02:40] <eamonn> hi all, let's take this one at a time: I've just dist-updated to breezy from hoary and have no uspash. I just see the normal boot messages. How do I enable usplash?
[02:40] <flodine> is there something i need to to make ubuntu run better on dual chips
[02:40] <dylan_> jdermer, you use linux
[02:40] <eamonn> flodine, you need to install the smp kernel.
[02:40] <kent> thoreauputic, thanks. It must be themeable then? Since it dont look like moinmoin normally do.. :)
[02:40] <thoreauputic> flodine: are you using a 686 kernel?
[02:41] <flodine> ok did that
[02:41] <LinuxJones> flodine, your running the smp kernel ?
[02:41] <thoreauputic> kent: no idea sorry - I just seemed to remember that was what it was - I may be wrong though
[02:41] <flodine> can i allcate each chip
[02:41] <flodine> yes
[02:42] <imterro> well can anyone help me
[02:42] <flodine> LinuxJone
[02:42] <jdermer> imterro ive tried helping u
[02:42] <pr1r> whats gst-register.... just got this shit
[02:42] <jdermer> u dont even know wut wireless chipset u have
[02:42] <pr1r> have no clue
[02:42] <thoreauputic> dylan_: no, use /etc/hdparm.conf
[02:42] <durt> dylan_ is it just that one command that you want to run at boot?
[02:42] <dylan_> thoreauputic, it doesnt work for me
[02:42] <dylan_> durt, and no....
[02:42] <imterro> jdermer how am i supposed to find that out?
[02:42] <dylan_> durt, at least i dont think so
[02:42] <flodine> is there a program that will allocate what chip does what for duals
[02:42] <robotgeek> imterro: lspci -v
[02:43] <durt> vlc is taking forever to compile...
[02:43] <robotgeek> imterro: do that in a terminal, "lspci -v"
[02:43] <dylan_> thoreauputic, editing /etc/hdparm.conf does absolutely nothing when i try to enable dma on /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd....can you help me?
[02:43] <imterro> yeah thanks
[02:43] <flodine> anyone
[02:43] <thoreauputic> dylan_: are you sure you have the right syntax ?
[02:44] <dylan_> thoreauputic, its /dev/hdc {  <new line> dma = on <new line> } right?
[02:44] <DonL> flodine, sorry from me. I just use one so I don't know
[02:44] <flodine> is there someone running dual chip ewho can help
[02:44] <dylan_> thoreauputic, do you have dma enabled?
[02:45] <imterro> i have a intel cop. PRO/wireless 2200BG (rev 5)
[02:45] <thoreauputic> dylan_: yes - and that looks OK form here :/
[02:45] <thoreauputic> *from
[02:45] <dylan_> thoreauputic, so why doesnt it work?  very very odd.....will you help?
[02:45] <imterro> t that helps at all
[02:45] <thoreauputic> dylan_: I'm no hdparm expert :)
[02:45] <robotgeek> imterro: that helps
[02:45] <dylan_> thoreauputic, do you know somebody who is?
[02:46] <thoreauputic> dylan_: does seem od that it isn't working
[02:46] <eamonn> Anyone here running Skype on breezy? Does it appear normal to you? Mine has a screwed up display -- almost completely black, except for the icons.
[02:46] <dylan_> thoreauputic, yes its very odd, but whenever i enable it manually from the terminal it works for that boot period.  i want it on all the time
[02:46] <thoreauputic> dylan_: not offhand, no - you can try puyying commands at the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[02:46] <flodine> help
[02:47] <imterro> robotgeek is it not supported?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> s/puyying/putting
[02:47] <robotgeek> imterro: checking up, moment
[02:47] <durt> dylan_ then just do what i said
[02:47] <dylan_> durt, what did you say?
[02:47] <dylan_> thoreauputic, can you help me put those commands in there?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> dylan_: I know I used to put commands for hdparm in the file I just mentioned, and it worked fine
[02:48] <thoreauputic> dylan_: just put them at the end of the file before "exit"
[02:48] <bz0b> hey all
[02:48] <dylan_> thoreauputic, so if i was to do the whole dma = on thingy it would work?
[02:48] <pr1r> ok so since no one wants to answer the last question how bout this
[02:48] <pr1r> half life 2
[02:48] <pr1r> can i get it to work
[02:48] <thoreauputic> dylan_: no, use the command syntax, not the config syntax
[02:48] <robotgeek> imterro: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#I i guess it's supported
[02:48] <dylan_> thoreauputic, so its sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc in the file, right?
[02:48] <thoreauputic> dylan_: as if you were doing it manually from a terminal
[02:48] <robotgeek> !tell imterro about ndiswrapper
[02:49] <thoreauputic> dylan_: yup
[02:49] <dylan_> thoreauputic, include sudo ?
[02:49] <thoreauputic> no sudo needed
[02:49] <dylan_> thoreauputic, thakns
[02:49] <robotgeek> imterro: read that wiki article on how to setup ndiswrapper
[02:49] <dylan_> thoreauputic, will you be here in 5 mins?
[02:49] <jdermer> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `pygtk-2.0.pc'
[02:49] <jdermer> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[02:49] <jdermer> No package 'pygtk-2.0' found
[02:49] <thoreauputic> dylan_: it's a start up script so it runs as root
[02:49] <jdermer> any idea wut thats all about ?
[02:49] <dylan_> thoreauputic, will you be here if it doesnt wrk for me?
[02:49] <thoreauputic> dylan_: I might be :)
[02:49] <bluefoxicy> <ubuntu installer> :Configuring blt
[02:49] <jdermer> when i try to ./configure something
[02:49] <bluefoxicy> BLT!
[02:49] <dylan_> thoreauputic, thanks a 1x10^238432
[02:49] <jdermer> i got python gtk 2
[02:49] <cute_bettong> whats the default font for ubuntu?
[02:50] <cute_bettong> anyone know?
[02:50] <reiki> can anyone give me a hand figuring out why my USB flash drive doesn't show up on my desktop when the system can see that it's plugged in? I also don't know how to unmount it ...unless I just do that from terminal
[02:50] <eamonn> how do I get usplash to work? I just dist-updated to breezy from hoary this evening and I'm just getting the normal boot messages.
[02:50] <imterro> robotgeek thanks
[02:50] <thoreauputic> dylan_: it should work - just make sure you put it at the end of the script before "exit"
[02:50] <robotgeek> imterro: no probs
[02:51] <LinuxJones> cute_bettong, system >> Preferences >> font
[02:51] <punkass> anyone know why there is no php5-mcrypt in breezy?
[02:51] <jdermer> any ideas ?
[02:51] <DonL> reiki, try looking in "Places", "Computer".
[02:51] <ssdd65> dose anyone here know of any LIGHTWEIGHT weather prediction software?
[02:51] <reiki> DonL: it's not showing there either
[02:52] <DonL> reiki, did you plug it in live?
[02:52] <reiki> DonL: yes
[02:52] <thoreauputic> root__: please don't run IRC as root
[02:52] <root__> ok
[02:52] <dylan_> thoreauputic, it didnt work....the eidt for /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh .... must i refresh the init.d folder and how?
[02:52] <robotgeek> reiki: System -> Preferences -> Removable Media and Disks, make sure you have the correct options set
[02:53] <thoreauputic> dylan_: it will only run when you boot, normally
[02:53] <DonL> reiki, should show up somewhere.
[02:53] <dylan_> thoreauputic, i rebooted and nothing happened
[02:53] <dylan_> thoreauputic, in terms of dma being on
[02:53] <reiki> robotgeek, those settings appear to be correct
[02:53] <thoreauputic> dylan_: but if you do it manually it works??
[02:54] <dylan_> thoreauputic, if i do it from the terminal it works just fine
[02:54] <dylan_> thoreauputic, but i dont want to do that
[02:54] <jdermer> any ideas peoples ?
[02:54] <DonL> robotgeek, right. Forgot about that
[02:54] <robotgeek> reiki: okay, then in a terminal, type gnome-volume-manager
[02:54] <durt> dylan_: sudo update-rc.d bootmisc.sh defaults
[02:54] <reiki> DonL: I can see the drive mounted as /media/usbdisk ... fdisk -l shows it as /dev/sda1 ... so it mounted it, but can't read it or I can't see files or anything
[02:54] <thoreauputic> hmm - sorry then. It is extremely weird thet it doesn't execute from that script if you put the command there at the end before the exit line
[02:55] <dylan_> durt, i get the message System startup links for /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh already exist.
[02:55] <reiki> robotgeek, : should I sudo that?
[02:55] <robotgeek> reiki: nope
[02:55] <dylan_> thoreauputic, yeah its odd
[02:55] <BlueEagle> reiki: mount -o uid=username /dev/sda1 /path/to/mountpoint
[02:55] <BlueEagle> reiki: with sudo ofcourse.
[02:55] <dabaR> ts mounted....
[02:55] <dabaR> why not try sudo ls?
[02:55] <durt> dylan_: make a new script.sh file in that directory and run the same thing but with script.sh then
[02:55] <reiki> ** (gnome-volume-manager:8836): WARNING **: manager.c/1381: already running?
[02:56] <durt> damn it
[02:56] <BlueEagle> dabar: Because you don't want to have to be superuser to access the files?
[02:56] <firez> Does anyone here use openbox or fluxbox?, I can't use anything when I install any of them
[02:56] <dabaR> reiki: that sounnds right.
[02:56] <dabaR> BlueEagle: well, to test if he can see them as sudo, first...
[02:56] <BlueEagle> dabar: Intriguing approach. Check if a deprechiated way works before doing it "the right way"(tm) hehe
[02:57] <robotgeek> reiki: yeah...weird. okay, try putting a drive-mount applet in your panel and see if that helps
[02:57] <dabaR> BlueEagle:ok, we'll again see whether it works. btw, he has to umopunt it first...
[02:57] <imterro> !tell imterro about ndiswrapper
[02:57] <reiki> robotgeek, drive mount works when I insert a cdrom... will this break anything? :)
[02:57] <BlueEagle> dabar: what does mount say btw?
[02:57] <BlueEagle> dabar: ie. which filesystem is it?
[02:58] <dabaR> he has the drive mounted...
[02:58] <robotgeek> reiki: i have my drives show up in the applet when i insert stuff in there
[02:58] <robotgeek> firez: i have openbox installed. what's the issue?
[02:58] <dabaR> firez: I use openbox, as well.
[02:58] <reiki> dabaR: typing sudo ls /media/usbdisk yields nothing. No error
[02:59] <reiki> but no files either
[02:59] <firez> I can't see anything when I install them
[02:59] <dabaR> they are not there then.
[02:59] <transgress> it's like blackbox DonL
[02:59] <dabaR> DonL: openbox.org
[02:59] <BlueEagle> reiki: which filesystem does this device use?
[02:59] <firez> is just an empty dektop and it doesnt show up my apps
[02:59] <DonL> Ah I'll have a look
[02:59] <reiki> BlueEagle: fdisk -l tells me it's FAT16
[02:59] <dabaR> firez: off course, use the right click
[02:59] <BlueEagle> firez: You need to setup your menu with openbox iirc.
[02:59] <dabaR> what is iirc?
[02:59] <zcat[1] > YAY!!! Figured out what I did, I now have Breezy on a beige PPC!!
[02:59] <BlueEagle> reiki: I see. What does mount (with no argument) say about it?
[03:00] <firez> yes, but i don't see any option to do that
[03:00] <BlueEagle> dabar: iirc is if I remember correctly iirc
[03:00] <dabaR> thanks.
[03:00] <firez> is very weird I just see the mouse cursor and the menu when i click the right button
[03:00] <robotgeek> firez: that's the idea :)
[03:00] <dabaR> firez: right click on the desktop.
[03:00] <thoreauputic> iirc is If I Remember Correctly
[03:00] <thoreauputic> oops
[03:01] <firez> yes, but I only got exit, shutdown and that's it no apps, not even a config utility
[03:01] <dabaR> then, choose terminal. firez .
[03:01] <dabaR> there has to be a terminal.
[03:01] <reiki> BlueEagle: I don't see it listed in mount, but I see this line in there...usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[03:01] <firez> do I need to launch something in the terminal when I'm in openbox?
[03:01] <dabaR> well, if you want to.
[03:01] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well if it isn't listed when you type mount I doubt that it is mounted.
[03:01] <dabaR> firez: how come you chose to use openbox?
[03:02] <DonL> dabaR, my question too
[03:02] <firez> in the log on screen
[03:02] <gorilla> ubotu, iirc is If I Remember Correctly
[03:02] <ubotu> gorilla: i already had it that way
[03:02] <dabaR> firez: why did you decide to go openbox?
[03:02] <firez> metacity takes too much memory
[03:02] <thoreauputic> gorilla: done already
[03:02] <BlueEagle> firez: If you don't know you might want to A) use something else or B) read a manual or how-to setup openbox.
[03:02] <thoreauputic> gorilla: heh
[03:02] <dabaR> firez: so you want gnome to use openbox?
[03:03] <BlueEagle> firez: Also have a look-see at rox if you want a filemanager. I think I was quite happy with it.
[03:03] <firez> I used DSL in my usb and I wanted to use the WM in my ubuntu installlation
[03:03] <firez> thanks
[03:03] <thoreauputic> gorilla: I did it a minute ago :)
[03:03] <dabaR> rox is not a package
[03:03] <thoreauputic> rox-filer
[03:03] <BlueEagle> thoreauputic: Yes, that's the one. :)
[03:03] <thoreauputic> !info rox-filer
[03:04] <ubotu> rox-filer: (A simple graphical file manager for X11), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.0-xfld.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 921 kB, Installed size: 2800 kB
[03:04] <dabaR> wth can I not install it...
[03:04] <BlueEagle> dabar: Got all the repositories?
[03:04] <BlueEagle> !repositories
[03:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:05] <thoreauputic> dabaR: you need the universe repo
[03:05] <dabaR> firez: to set up gnome to use openbox instead of metacity...you need to edit the configuration manager...
[03:05] <dabaR> ya, well, I know that, dummies:)
[03:05] <dabaR> Off course I need to figure it out...
[03:05] <marty> I have intalled Breezy on an old Gateway and everything is working fine except the sound. I get this looping noise of the drumming from the GNOME startup and I can not get it to stop. Does anyone know how to get ALSA to stop doing that?
[03:05] <thoreauputic> dabaR: glad to see you modified that...
[03:05] <dabaR> heh, ya, sorry...
[03:06] <BlueEagle> reiki: So, if you try mount -t fat16 -o uid=username /dev/sda1 /path/to/mountpoint
[03:06] <firez> dabar: configuration manager? is that app located at the log on screen
[03:06] <BlueEagle> reiki: And then try to ls the mountpoint, does that help at all?
[03:06] <dabaR> its installed, that is the deal...
[03:06] <BlueEagle> reiki: (It was listed as sda1 in fdisk -l, right?)
[03:06] <reiki> it was listed as /dev/sda1 yes... I'm going to try mointing it again now...
[03:07] <dabaR> firez: no, you still want to use gnome, as I understand, you just want a different wm. Anyone recommend him to use openbox over enlightenment?
[03:07] <BlueEagle> reiki: After running the mount command, if you're still not able to find your files try mount with no arguments again to see if it's listed now.
[03:07] <eamonn> Hi all. How do you use mkinitramfs to enable usplash? I've just dist-upgraded to breezy and I'm just seeing the normal boot messages.
[03:07] <firez> dabar: is enlightenment lighter than gnome at the system resources?
[03:07] <marty> firez, Enlightenment rocks if you can get it to work properly. Well, at least version 17.
[03:08] <DonL> marty, I couldn't get it to work properly for me
[03:08] <jdermer> i got a question
[03:08] <firez> dabar: I thought Openbox isn't a desktop enviroment as gnome or kde
[03:08] <jdermer> how do u find a target command for an app
[03:08] <jdermer> like firefox
[03:08] <reiki> BlueEagle, I have to create a mount point for this? It's dynamic... like should I touch /home/username/Desktop/mount-point-name ?
[03:08] <dabaR> firez: exactly.
[03:08] <jdermer> its mozilla-firefox
[03:08] <jdermer> cause im setting up starterbar for gdesklets
[03:08] <dabaR> jdermer: dpkg -L packageName
[03:08] <BlueEagle> reiki: mkdir ~/drive
[03:08] <firez> I see, well there's not too much option besides gnome, kde is more or less resource hunfry
[03:08] <firez> *hungry
[03:09] <BlueEagle> reiki: mount -t fat16 -o uid=username /dev/sda1 ~/drive
[03:09] <thoreauputic> firez: there's xfce4 as well
[03:09] <dabaR> firez: you are using the default gnome, that uses metacity as the wm.
[03:09] <thoreauputic> firez: it's a DE
[03:09] <BlueEagle> reiki: ls ~/drive
[03:09] <jdermer> that didnt work
[03:09] <jdermer> and im not sure we;re talkin about the same thing
[03:09] <marty> DonL, That is too bad. It is sweet
[03:09] <dabaR> firez: you can specify, through the config manager, in APps>System Tools in gnome, to use something else.
[03:09] <BlueEagle> reiki: It needs to be mounted on a directory.
[03:09] <marty> I have intalled Breezy on an old Gateway and everything is working fine except the sound. I get this looping noise of the drumming from the GNOME startup and I can not get it to stop. Does anyone know how to get ALSA to stop doing that?
[03:09] <dabaR> firez: for example, that openbox.
[03:10] <firez> I see, I will try that
[03:10] <dabaR> or you can run openbox, and start all the gnome apps you want...like the panel, esd, whatever.
[03:10] <DonL> marty, I know. I tried to install it in Ubuntu, and it screwed up and I had to google for a way to get rid of it...
[03:10] <jdermer> wut i mean is
[03:10] <jdermer> if i wanted to run firefox
[03:10] <reiki> BlueEagle, unknown filesystem type fat16
[03:10] <jdermer> id open a term
[03:10] <jdermer> and i could type in
[03:10] <jdermer> mozilla-firefox
[03:10] <jdermer> and firefox would open
[03:10] <dabaR> firez: on the forums, there is stuff about enlightenment which is a common replacement for metacity.
[03:10] <BlueEagle> reiki: cat /proc/filesystems|grep fat
[03:10] <jdermer> wut would be the command for say the open office word processor
[03:10] <BlueEagle> reiki: What does that list?
[03:10] <dabaR> jdermer: I told you how to find out.
[03:11] <thoreauputic> jdermer: please don't use the enter key as punctuation
[03:11] <DonL> ...then I downloaded e-live and it looked nice but wouldn't run at anything but 320x480 or something. In firefox I had to xcroll all over the place to read the huge print
[03:11] <dabaR> Yes, send in one message, its easier for you to get help...
[03:11] <thoreauputic> jdermer:  oowriter
[03:11] <reiki> BlueEagle, : doesn't list anything at all
[03:11] <johndarkhorse> jdermer: type "dpkg -l openoffice2" and it should tell you all the installed thing
[03:11] <thoreauputic> jdermer: type oo <hit tab twice>
[03:11] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, then we need to find support for the filesystem. :)
[03:11] <BlueEagle> reiki: sudo modprobe fat16
[03:12] <Gobbla> I cant watch subs on VLC @ ubuntu.. what can I do to fix this? cmon guys I cant be the first with this problem :)
[03:12] <reiki> BlueEagle, I thought it was there by default in Hoary
[03:12] <jdermer> no package found matching openoffice2
[03:12] <jdermer> i got 1.1
[03:12] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, apperantly it is not. :)
[03:12] <jdermer> is there even a 2 ?
[03:12] <reiki> BlueEagle, module fat16 not found
[03:12] <BlueEagle> reiki: I see.
[03:12] <thoreauputic> jdermer: erm - oo <hit tab twice>
[03:13] <jdermer> that doesnt do anything for me
[03:13] <BlueEagle> reiki: try sudo modprobe fat
[03:13] <johndarkhorse> jdermer: use the dpkg command on whatever the pkg name is
[03:13] <thoreauputic> jdermer: that will show you the openoffice commands
[03:13] <wetha> can anyone help me? I cannot change the chmod of my filesystem - it is stuck on 444...
[03:13] <BlueEagle> reiki: or even sudo depmod -a
[03:13] <BlueEagle> reiki: then cat /proc/filesystems|grep fat
[03:13] <jdermer> wait
[03:13] <jdermer> 1 sec
[03:13] <jdermer> got it thanx
[03:13] <dabaR> there is a openoffice.org2 package. aptitude search openoffice.org2...
[03:13] <dabaR> or use synaptic to search for things.
[03:13] <jdermer> how is someone supposed to know to do oo tho
[03:14] <jdermer> since when i launch apps i usually use the gnome menu'
[03:14] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok ran the modprobe AND the depmod -a and then cat again shows nothing at all
[03:14] <dabaR> jdermer: I told you, each package files can be listed using dpkg -L
[03:14] <BlueEagle> reiki: Wait, my mistake. The filesystem should be called msdos. My bad.
[03:14] <thoreauputic> jdermer: well, that's why people told you dpkg -L <packagename>
[03:14] <greenhodge> join #ubuntu
[03:14] <marty> I have intalled Breezy on an old Gateway and everything is working fine except the sound. I get this looping noise of the drumming from the GNOME startup and I can not get it to stop. Does anyone know how to get ALSA to stop doing that?
[03:14] <BlueEagle> reiki: mount -t msdos -o uid=username /dev/sda1 ~/drive
[03:14] <jdermer> which didnt list nething for me
[03:14] <jdermer> i tried dpkg -l openoffice
[03:15] <dabaR> marty: have you killall esd yet in a terminal?
[03:15] <thoreauputic> jdermer: if you don't know the package name you can do apt-cache search open office
[03:15] <thoreauputic> for example
[03:15] <thoreauputic> jdermer: capital -L
[03:15] <macintos1r>  /quit
[03:15] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok a 256MB removeable media showed up... in places... but it doesn't appear to open :)
[03:15] <johndarkhorse> jdermer: you can also right click on 'openoffice' in synaptic and it'll give you the option to show all the installed files
[03:15] <dabaR> jdermer: also, the package name is openoffice.org
[03:16] <greenhodge> Can someone here help a newbie (me) with a monitor issue?
[03:16] <thoreauputic> jdermer: please pay attention to what people tell you
[03:16] <BlueEagle> reiki: does not appear to open?
[03:16] <wetha> Again, can't change the chmod of my filesystem, even as root and even using the terminal
[03:16] <wetha> they appear to change but dont
[03:16] <BlueEagle> reiki: What does it appear to do then?
[03:16] <reiki> I can't browse it OR get properties... it has hung the "PLaces" app
[03:16] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[03:16] <wetha> any suggestions??!
[03:16] <marty> dabaR, how might that help? If I kill esd, then the GNOME desktop will not have sound, which would mean Firefox and other apps would not have accessablity to the sound card, right?
[03:16] <BlueEagle> reiki: Hmm...
[03:17] <BlueEagle> reiki: did you ll your username correctly then?
[03:17] <BlueEagle> spell*
[03:17] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm using a KDE app (kile) in warty.  Is there some way to tell kile to not generate sound effects?  I can't find anything under Settings in the program.
[03:17] <dabaR> wetha: well, you need to tell us that right away, what you tried, and paste some stuff, and tell us everything...that is why I did not answer your question, cause you did not make it easy to answer.
[03:17] <Gobbla> marty: whats the problem?
[03:17] <jdermer> just out of curiosity
[03:17] <jdermer> y wouldnt synaptic have updated my oo 1.1 to 2.0 ?
[03:17] <dabaR> marty: you are completely right. it would stop the noise.
[03:18] <thoreauputic> jdermer: because 2 is beta
[03:18] <dabaR> jdermer: cause its beta still, and a different package.
[03:18] <reiki> BlueEagle, in the mount command? uid= my correct username
[03:18] <BlueEagle> ensignredshirt: You might need to turn them off in the KDE control center.
[03:18] <finn_> does anyone actually use ipv6 for anything yet?
[03:18] <jdermer> o i didnt know it was beta
[03:18] <greenhodge> Question: ubuntu is only letting me choose one screen resolution (640x480). How can i get more options?
[03:18] <dabaR> finn_: it is used for some things.
[03:18] <gorilla> rather than killing esd, use esdctl off to diable it... works like flighjtgear which accesses the sound card directly.
[03:18] <jdermer> i just  searched with synaptic
[03:18] <jdermer> it doesnt say its beta
[03:18] <thoreauputic> finn_: some peole do
[03:18] <thoreauputic> *people
[03:18] <BlueEagle> reiki: ls -l ~/|grep drive
[03:18] <finn_> dabaR, it seems to be causing my wireless connection to time out
[03:19] <thoreauputic> jdermer: well, it is
[03:19] <finn_> disabling it has made the problem go away, but now i dont' know if other things will be broken
[03:19] <jdermer> u using 2.0 ?
[03:19] <EnsignRedshirt> BlueEagle: Where is the KDE control center?  I'm using the default ubuntu gnome desktop.
[03:19] <dabaR> jdermer: visit the openoffice.org web site, and read about it.
[03:19] <thoreauputic> jdermer: it's also a different package, as someone pointed out
[03:19] <boman_> Is it possible to make my tv always show videos in fullscreen while my monitor just showing it in a small window?
[03:19] <reiki> BlueEagle, drwxr-xr-x  9 yardbird root     16384 1969-12-31 19:00 usb-drive
[03:19] <jdermer> yes i can see its a diff package
[03:19] <jdermer> i was wondering y
[03:19] <jdermer> but now i know its beta
[03:19] <punkass> does anyone know how to compile an extra module for php5?
[03:20] <BlueEagle> ensignredshirt: Well, when installing the kde app you would probably had installed the kde-base (including the control center) but I am not sure about that however. :/
[03:20] <punkass> i need php5-mcrypt but its not in breezy
[03:20] <BlueEagle> reiki: ls ~/drive
[03:20] <wetha> thnx dabaR, i logged in as root, clicked on properties of the filesystem (its a primary partition on a dual boot system)and tried to chmod 777, it says 'sorry, couldnt change permission settings'. Tried the terminal command 'chmod -v +rwxXst /dev/hda', but that printed 'permissions changed' but did nothing
[03:20] <marty> Gobbla, I have this problem where when GNOME starts, the drumming sound for the startup loops. Not too sure why..... If I kill ALSA it goes away, of course, but it would be nice to have Breezy jnot do that.
[03:20] <boman_> Cuz I've searched on google/ubuntuforums and such for a looong looong time and I can't find a thing about it. :(
[03:21] <Gobbla> marty: ic...
[03:21] <reiki> BlueEagle, that appears to be working... not sure these are even my files
[03:21] <dabaR> wetha: why would a person allow read and write permissions to his whole hard drive?
[03:21] <jdermer> skype isnt in synaptic... thats surprising
[03:21] <drummer87> hi, i'm having trouble with a large tarball.. i've imaged my hard drive using tar to backup to a dvd but can't add the file in gnomebaker or graveman and when i try to view properties, the file dissapears until i refresh the folder. any ideas???
[03:21] <firez> wow, I tried fluxbox and it only show me an empty dektop and just 2 options on the menu (xterm and exit)
[03:21] <avanspronsen> !skype
[03:21] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[03:21] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, unles you had a directory called drive in your home directory before then these are the files on the media mounted.
[03:22] <thoreauputic> wetha: chmod 777 is a *very* bad idea BTW
[03:22] <marty> Gobbla, exactly....
[03:22] <dabaR> firez: that is how they work...
[03:22] <BlueEagle> reiki: Why places is hanging is another issue though.  :/
[03:22] <wetha> dabaR: at present it seems I cant copy anything to the disk etc...
[03:22] <BlueEagle> wetha: Which filesystem is it?
[03:22] <dabaR> firez: they are minimal, so you can add stuff to them...
[03:22] <reiki> BlueEagle, well it's mounted as usb-drive :)  actually these ARE my files but it's terribly slow trying to read anything from that drive
[03:22] <firez> dabar: I thought it copied the settings of the default menus on gnome
[03:22] <wetha> BlueEagle: Ext3
[03:22] <dabaR> wetha: ya, is this your / partition?
[03:22] <wetha> dabaR: yes
[03:23] <dabaR> firez: not at all.
[03:23] <reiki> BlueEagle, it listed in termin using ls very quickly... but the GUI is having problems
[03:23] <BlueEagle> wetha: Well not really. /dev/hda is the whole drive and not a single partition afaik.
[03:23] <jdermer> o
[03:23] <dabaR> wetha: you dont want to have your / partition 777...
[03:23] <BlueEagle> reiki:
[03:23] <jdermer> thanx
[03:23] <jdermer> it says its sorta unstable in ubuntu
[03:23] <wetha> BlueEagle: ahah...
[03:23] <jdermer> hmmm
[03:23] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, that's down to the gui.
[03:23] <firez> dabar: is there any app on the repository to edit the fluxbox enviroment
[03:23] <dabaR> wetha: do you have a /home/wetha?
[03:23] <wetha> dabaR: understood, so whats the problem?
[03:23] <jdermer> waiiiiit am i understanding this right
[03:23] <dabaR> firez: those things are edited through config files.
[03:23] <jdermer> skype will only run under KDE >?
[03:24] <wetha> dabaR: well, I use my real name but yeah...
[03:24] <thoreauputic> wetha: if you chmod your root partition 777 , things will break spectacularly
[03:24] <reiki> BlueEagle, now am I going to have to go into terminal and remount this every time I insert it? That's going to suck out loud :)
[03:24] <BlueEagle> reiki: If you try navigating there from your home partition instead of the removable media icon, does that hep at alll?
[03:24] <BlueEagle> help* all*
[03:24] <dabaR> firez: I can show you how to ecit the config file for openbox, and there is a #fluxbox.
[03:24] <firez> I will try that but it seems really weird that i can't even see a file explorer
[03:24] <wetha> thoreauputic: ya I got that :)
[03:24] <BlueEagle> reiki: Just add it to you fstab
[03:24] <dabaR> wetha: that is where you should save files...
[03:24] <BlueEagle> reiki: probably want it somewhere else though.
[03:25] <dabaR> ls -l /home/wetha, and paste that here, just one line...
[03:25] <wetha> dabaR: problem is I have no access to write to anywhere, including my home folder
[03:25] <BlueEagle> reiki: It's a usb stick, right?
[03:25] <firez> thanks, is that channel located this server?
[03:25] <dabaR> yes.
[03:25] <reiki> yeah it's usb stick
[03:25] <Gobbla> I cant watch subs on VLC .. what can I do to fix this? cmon guys I cant be the first with this problem :)
[03:25] <BlueEagle> reiki: mkdir /mnt/usbdrive
[03:25] <jdermer> skype is a kde app ?
[03:25] <reiki> BlueEagle, I was hoping this would be less painful :)
[03:26] <dabaR> jdermer: no, its a voip like app, for all major OSs.
[03:26] <thoreauputic> jdermer: no, it uses QT but it's proprietary
[03:26] <gorilla> Gobbla, you aren't helping yourself enough... watch it with which program.
[03:26] <cobhcf> hello
[03:26] <Gobbla> VLC
[03:26] <cobhcf> !list
[03:26] <ubotu> hmm... list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:26] <gorilla> !vlc
[03:26] <ubotu> from memory, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[03:26] <BlueEagle> reiki: sudo echo /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive msdos noauto,user 0 0 >> /etc/fstab
[03:26] <reiki> BlueEagle, kinda weird that it showed up in /media/usbdrive  and yet couldn't be read there... isn't it?
[03:27] <cobhcf> !urls
[03:27] <ubotu> cobhcf: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:27] <Gobbla> gorilla: i have tried that
[03:27] <jdermer> dabar i dont think u understood my question lol
[03:27] <thoreauputic> cobhcf: this isn't a wareZ channel ;)
[03:27] <cobhcf> ok
[03:27] <jdermer> thanx thoreau
[03:27] <jdermer> the link u sent me said skype for linux is made to run on kde
[03:27] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, as long as it doesn't show up when typing mount w/o arguments it's not mounted correctly. Might be a bug in the auto-mounter.
[03:27] <wetha> dabar: ok, I have the list, now how do I (successfuly) change the permissions to allow writing? (In case you didnt already realise - I'm a complete Linux noob...:-)
[03:27] <gorilla> Gobbla, I thought vlc was a video source you were trying to access... sorry i can't help more.
[03:27] <cobhcf> i need some info and help on running Ubuntu on my AMD 64 machine
[03:28] <thoreauputic> jdermer: it will run on any window manager or DE
[03:28] <Gobbla> gorilla: thanx for trying :)
[03:28] <jdermer> ""Because Skype is a KDE application and KDE has not been configured for most Ubuntu users...."
[03:28] <dabaR> wetha: what is the line saying? paste it here..the output of ls -l /home/wertha.
[03:28] <jdermer> o
[03:28] <nfinitep1astik> anyone would like to try to help me to get ALSA working correctly?
[03:28] <jdermer> the wiki u sent me didnt talk about that
[03:28] <cobhcf> I AM fairly new to Linux and need some help
[03:29] <BlueEagle> cobhcf: Then I suggest you ask a question. :)
[03:29] <reiki> BlueEagle, if I append this to fstab and the drive isn't in there when I boot... isn't it going to hang a while looking for it?
[03:29] <BlueEagle> reiki: No, that's what the noauto bit is for.
[03:29] <reiki> ahhh... ok
[03:29] <thoreauputic> jdermer:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto  <-- is this what you were looking at?
[03:29] <BlueEagle> reiki: Even without it you would only get a quick error message stating that it can't be mounted.
[03:30] <nfinitep1astik> anyone would like to try to help me to get ALSA working correctly?
[03:30] <cobhcf> i cant seem to install from the image i downloaded earlier today
[03:30] <GhostFreeman> Is there a way I can up the amount of keys I can press in Linux at one time (example, I can press Q and W but I can't press X while I hold down Q and W)
[03:30] <wetha> dabaR: total 692
[03:30] <wetha> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  10228 2005-09-11 00:56 config.h
[03:30] <wetha> -rw-r--r--   1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-09-11 00:56 config.log
[03:30] <wetha> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root  64349 2005-09-11 00:56 config.status
[03:30] <wetha> -rw-r--r--   1 root root   6957 2005-09-11 01:30 configure.log
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   8 joel joel  4096 2005-09-11 01:49 Desktop
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   5 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 doc
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   2 joel joel   4096 2005-09-11 01:42 FC4
[03:30] <gorilla> cobhcf, did you check the md5 checksum of the iso that you have?
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:45 include
[03:30] <jdermer> yes
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 intl
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   4 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:45 lib
[03:30] <wetha> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-09-11 00:56 libtool
[03:30] <wetha> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-09-11 00:45 libtool-nofpic
[03:30] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 m4
[03:30] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: System->Preferences->Sound Uncheck start soundserver at startup, killall esd, system->preferences->multimedia systems selector choose alsa and test.
[03:30] <reiki> wtf?
[03:31] <cobhcf> gorilla: nope
[03:31] <wetha> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  24991 2005-09-11 00:56 Makefile
[03:31] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   5 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 misc
[03:31] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 po
[03:31] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x  36 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:56 src
[03:31] <wetha> -rw-r--r--   1 root root     23 2005-09-11 00:56 stamp-h1
[03:31] <boman_> :(
[03:31] <hybrid_goth> flood
[03:31] <wetha> drwxr-xr-x   4 root root   4096 2005-09-11 00:45 win32
[03:31] <BlueEagle> nice wetha
[03:31] <davro> flood er
[03:31] <hybrid_goth> !flood
[03:31] <ubotu> somebody said flood was for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[03:31] <hybrid_goth> !ops
[03:31] <ubotu> [ops]  Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[03:31] <gorilla> cobhcf, if the image is corrupted when you downloaded it, then you won't have a chance to install from it when burnt onto a cd.
[03:31] <cobhcf> gorilla: Yes i did now - all i see is a whole bunch of gibberish
[03:31] <dabaR> thoreauputic: heh:-/ my bad, raelly:)
[03:31] <hybrid_goth> haha Nalioth as a op
[03:31] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: thanks, that works
[03:32] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: You're welcome. :)
[03:32] <dabaR> hybrid_goth: he is:)
[03:32] <h0sl3r> mindframe: did you get fluxspace to work?
[03:32] <cobhcf> i dloaded from the Ubuntu site :)
[03:32] <BlueEagle> cobhcf: did you chekc the md5-sum of the .iso?
[03:32] <hybrid_goth> dabaR: yea he bragged to me when he first got the honor
[03:32] <cobhcf> yeah blueeagle: all gibberish in there
[03:32] <thedevilsjester> Ok if I have an existing ubuntu install, and I put in the new 5.10 PR, it will 'upgrade' my current install without breaking it right?  Not like Redhats old upgraders that broke your system half the time?
[03:32] <BlueEagle> cobhcf: ?
[03:32] <cobhcf> i got the ISO from Ubuntu site
[03:33] <BlueEagle> !md5sum
[03:33] <ubotu> BlueEagle: Are you smoking crack?
[03:33] <cobhcf> how i check that?
[03:33] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: quick additional question?
[03:33] <thedevilsjester> Anyone?
[03:33] <dabaR> thedevilsjester: who says the upgrade to an unstable version wont break anything?
[03:33] <DonL> thedevilsjester, I'd wait for next month personally
[03:34] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok... I just found out it has to mounted under /media in order to be able to UNmount it from the gui... sheeesh :)
[03:34] <thedevilsjester> I dont mean nessiarily to the unstable version, I mean in general
[03:34] <BlueEagle> cobhcf: get a md5sum checker for windows. Use yoru favorite web search engine to find one. Then just compare the generated md5sum of the .iso image with the published md5sum. If they do not match your download is broken.
[03:34] <dabaR> hybrid_goth: yes, the distinguished honour...
[03:34] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: Shoot.
[03:34] <h0sl3r> Anyone in here use fluxspace?
[03:34] <cobhcf> ok
[03:34] <WeedVender> question...  how do I install the libavcodec2 for mplayer?
[03:34] <h0sl3r> !fluxspace
[03:34] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, h0sl3r
[03:34] <hybrid_goth> dabaR: lol
[03:34] <dabaR> thedevilsjester: upgrades dont break a system, no, if done properly.
[03:34] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, that might happen. :)
[03:34] <cobhcf> what is a good place to get the ISO for AMD 64 machines
[03:35] <BlueEagle> reiki: New information to me, but then again this is only my 1st week with ubuntu.
[03:35] <dabaR> thedevilsjester: you dont upgrade with backports enabled, and such...
[03:35] <chico_> hi
[03:35] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: would you have any idea why my sound is still reasonably quiet even when the volume is turned all the way up?
[03:35] <reiki> BlueEagle, I can just unmount ~/usb-drive ? (that's how it's mounted)
[03:35] <matthew_w> Is there any way to get RealPlayer files running in Totem?
[03:35] <matthew_w> !realplayer
[03:35] <ubotu> it has been said that realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:35] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: alsamixer and tune up both master and PCM
[03:35] <dabaR> thedevilsjester: and, 5.10, as it says, comes out 05/10 or so...
[03:35] <WeedVender> how about libavcodec2?
[03:35] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: it's done already
[03:35] <matthew_w> I have w32codecs, still nogo
[03:35] <h0sl3r> Anyone in here use fluxspace?
[03:36] <netdur> !mono
[03:36] <ubotu> netdur: What?
[03:36] <WeedVender> did you try apt-get install realplayer or what ever its called?
[03:36] <BlueEagle> reiki: That would probably work.
[03:36] <AussieBen> Initrd-tools keeps giving a segment fault whilst I try to install the base system. It breaks my install each time. :-/
[03:36] <transgress> helix player?
[03:36] <thedevilsjester> dabaR, Yeah I was wanting 5.10 for the boot splash mainly, there is no how to 'the ubuntu way' and doing it from source is why I left gentoo :p
[03:36] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: Which sound chip?
[03:36] <chico_> ppl: usplash is not resizing correctly in my widescreen.. should i file a bug?
[03:36] <WeedVender> that might work. But then how would totem access the codecs?
[03:36] <reiki> BlueEagle, : device is busy... this is almost getting to be funny now
[03:36] <dabaR> WeedVender: what are you trying to do?
[03:37] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: ibook g4
[03:37] <BlueEagle> reiki: You cannot be in the folder when you unmount it.
[03:37] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: Oh, well then I've got no clue.
[03:37] <netdur> helix player doesn't play rm or ram, real player to use sound deamon exluseve... you better install libxine
[03:37] <WeedVender> im trying to install libavcodec2
[03:37] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: lol, thank you
[03:37] <wetha> hello?
[03:37] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: However it's been my experience that most sound chips cut horribly whith both master and PCM turned up.
[03:37] <WeedVender> but me being a total noob, I don't know how to.
[03:37] <dabaR> wetha: hi.
[03:37] <wetha> dabaR: hi, srry bout that
[03:37] <nfinitep1astik> BlueEagle: thanks blue! ^.^d
[03:38] <wetha> dabaR: was banned for flooding
[03:38] <BlueEagle> reiki: did it help to cd ~/ before umounting?
[03:38] <dabaR> from now on, paste to paste.ubuntulinux.nl ...no, no, that was totally my bad...
[03:38] <BlueEagle> nfinitep1astik: No problem. :)
[03:38] <reiki> BlueEagle, nope it's stuck :)
[03:38] <wetha> dabaR: ok cool
[03:38] <thoreauputic> wetha: just read the channel topic and use the pastebin
[03:38] <dabaR> wetha: ^
[03:38] <AussieBen> Anyone have any ideas on my initrd-tools problem?
[03:38] <WeedVender> can anyone help me?
[03:38] <BlueEagle> reiki: have you got any graphical browsers in the directory?
[03:39] <dabaR> wetha: it seems that you chowned your homne folder to root...
[03:39] <reiki> BlueEagle, no gui browsers open currently
[03:39] <dabaR> wetha: please paste that thing again to the http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:39] <wetha> dabaR: ok
[03:39] <BlueEagle> reiki: Weird... What does mount w/o arguments say?
[03:39] <BlueEagle> reiki: Not that it should matter though.
[03:39] <BlueEagle> reiki: also check /etc/mtab
[03:39] <reiki> BlueEagle, the "write" light appears to be on. I believe the system is picking up on that. It should NOT however, be busy at this point
[03:40] <cobhcf> blueeagle: the checksums are different, where do i get a good copy?
[03:40] <reiki> BlueEagle, mount says this, /dev/sda1 on /home/yardbird/usb-drive type msdos (rw,uid=1000)
[03:40] <BlueEagle> cobhcf: It is a good copy there, it was just an error that occured in the transfer.
[03:40] <h0sl3r> Anyone in here use fluxspace?
[03:40] <DonL> nfinitep1astik, do you perhaps have more than one sound player active at the moment?
[03:40] <BlueEagle> reiki: how about /etc/mtab
[03:41] <BlueEagle> ?
[03:41] <reiki> BlueEagle, how do I check that? what am I looking for?
[03:41] <wetha> dabaR: dun
[03:41] <reiki> cd /etc/mtab
[03:41] <BlueEagle> reiki: cat /etc/mtab|grep sda1
[03:41] <reiki> damnit
[03:42] <dabaR> wetha: yup, sudo chown -R "wetha" /home/"wetha"
[03:42] <reiki> BlueEagle, /dev/sda1 /home/yardbird/usb-drive msdos rw,uid=1000 0 0
[03:42] <BlueEagle> odd.
[03:42] <dabaR> that will do what you need, and thats it... wetha...sorry about the ban again...
[03:42] <wetha> dabaR: to clarify, from 'sudo' or 'chown'??
[03:43] <nfinitep1astik> DonL:  how do i check?
[03:43] <dabaR> from sudo.
[03:43] <reiki> BlueEagle, I may have to pull it and just wait for the system to notice it's gone! :)
[03:43] <wetha> dabaR: hey no worries man, ty for the help!
[03:43] <DonL> nfinitep1astik, good question. Not familiar with macs
[03:43] <thoreauputic> dabaR: not really your fault - people should read the channel topic :)
[03:43] <dabaR> change to your uname, from "wetha"...off course.
[03:43] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, since it's idicating being active that might corrupt data, so pull a backup before unpluging it.
[03:43] <nfinitep1astik> DonL: lol, yeah, me niether....that's the problem
[03:44] <dabaR> thoreauputic: I told him explicitly to do what he did, inadvertently, off course...I meant, paste ls -l /home, and said ls -l /home/wetha
[03:44] <reiki> BlueEagle, I can't back it up. I can't access it. Trying to read a small .doc file off it didn't work
[03:44] <dylan_> how do i speed up web browsing in linux?  kinda slow...
[03:44] <dylan_> i have ADSL
[03:44] <DonL> nfinitep1astik, seems to me though that I read about someone with that problem before. The sound wouldn't stop because of feedback from the two sources. Not sure if that's your problem though
[03:44] <BlueEagle> reiki: unable to access it with the terminal too?
[03:44] <nfinitep1astik> dylan_: overclock your modem   XD
[03:44] <dabaR> dylan_: clear out your cache, stop using a router, remove your firewwall.
[03:44] <dylan_> dabaR, will that work?
[03:45] <cafuego> My modem already runs at 3.6GHz (and I patched it for HT support too)
[03:45] <BlueEagle> dylan_: which browser?
[03:45] <boman_> Call your isp. :)
[03:45] <dabaR> those are things you can do.
[03:45] <dylan_> nfinitep1astik, how do i overclock the modem?
[03:45] <reiki> BlueEagle, in terminal I can still use ls to list files
[03:45] <dylan_> BlueEagle, im using Epiphany
[03:45] <jdermer> with nautilus is there a way to make everything open in the same window
[03:45] <jdermer> instead of opening a new one for each folder
[03:45] <BlueEagle> reiki: How about cp to copy files from it?
[03:45] <DonL> jdermer, yes
[03:45] <jdermer> how
[03:45] <reiki> BlueEagle, and I notice it now has a new file called ????????.??? on it
[03:45] <dylan_> cafuego, is that safe?
[03:45] <thoreauputic> dylan_: try this - in about:config search for ipv6 and disable it
[03:45] <dylan_> thoreauputic, are you sure?
[03:46] <DonL> jdermer, been a while since I switched. I'll see if I can find out
[03:46] <thoreauputic> dylan_: yes, it is safe :)
[03:46] <jdermer> k thanx
[03:46] <bitkrom> i wish i could play bf2 in linux...windows died
[03:46] <dylan_> thoreauputic, ok im gonna disable ipv6
[03:46] <thoreauputic> dylan_: and you can change it back if you need to
[03:46] <dylan_> thoreauputic, i set the value to True
[03:46] <dabaR> heh.
[03:46] <nfinitep1astik> dylan_: i was kidding
[03:46] <boman_> There's a tweak to firefox to speed up browsing too....
[03:47] <cobhcf> blueeagle: thanks mate, i will dl again
[03:47] <boman_> In about:config
[03:47] <dylan_> boman_, yes i know
[03:47] <boman_> http.pipelining and stuff.
[03:47] <thoreauputic> dylan_: right - you can set it back if it makes no difference
[03:47] <dylan_> boman_, do you know a way that i can get win32 files like wmv files and quicktime files to play in mozilla firefox or epiphany?
[03:47] <dabaR> the only things that can be done are what I said...
[03:47] <dylan_> thoreauputic, thanks a lot :)
[03:47] <nfinitep1astik> in VLC, i cant seem to select ALSA as the primary sound device
[03:47] <thoreauputic> dylan_: no worries - hope it helps :)
[03:48] <BlueEagle> reiki: tar czRf ~/backup.tar.gz ~/usb-drive/*
[03:48] <BlueEagle> reiki: That should make a backup of all the files on the usb drive
[03:48] <BlueEagle> 1~
[03:48] <wetha> dabaR: problem solved, thanks again for your help
[03:48] <boman_> Hmm, does mplayer play quicktime and wmv?
[03:48] <wetha> and sorry for the flood yall
[03:48] <wetha> see you again
[03:49] <boman_> If so, then you can just install mplayer-firefox or whatever the package is called.
[03:49] <reiki> BlueEagle, ok... how do I format it? Everything on here is from winxp that I haven't used in over 3 weeks now. can I format it so it's still readable by XP machines so I can transfer stuff from work to here?
[03:49] <johndarkhorse> dylan_: there is an mplayer mozilla plugin that should work on all gecko based browsers
[03:49] <dylan_> johndarkhorse, doesnt that require the whole mplayer program?  i kinda dont want it
[03:49] <boman_> Why? :/
[03:49] <nfinitep1astik> in VLC, i cant seem to select ALSA as the primary sound device, ideas?
[03:49] <dylan_> boman_, its big and i like the built in apps
[03:50] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, I am not sure how that works so I cannot answer that.
[03:50] <boman_> Hmm... big? :o
[03:50] <johndarkhorse> dylan_: yes it does
[03:50] <boman_> Never even checked the size but...
[03:50] <BlueEagle> reiki: I cannot rule out that you break your usb drive if you try to format it. :)
[03:50] <dylan_> johndarkhorse, is there a way that i can fix it so i dont need the whole app?