[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Unit193: can you edit topic with 18.04.1 released please?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> https://lubuntu.me/bionic-1-released/
[05:15] <libri> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3ddf5f6333494a4f23cccbfbd41663824d5b4097&dn=lubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-i386.iso&tr=http%3a%2f%2ftorrent.ubuntu.com%3a6969%2fannounce
[06:10] <Manish__> I need help to install
[06:11] <Manish__> Lubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 18.04
[15:50] <meat> so uh
[15:50] <meat> wha's up i guess
[15:51] <meat> i'm here because i could use a little help with my new lubuntu installation, i'm brand new to linux
[15:52] <meat> stuff like I can't seem to find a proper video driver, how can i disable mouse acceleration, how can i disable my trackpad
[15:53] <meat> hey?
[15:55] <meat> i mean i come to the lubuntu support channel for lubuntu support to get lubuntu support and i can't seem to get any lubuntu support from the lubuntu support channel for lubuntu support
[15:55] <meat> so i mean
[15:55] <tsimonq2> !patience
[15:55] <tsimonq2> meat: You might try emailing the Lubuntu users list in the topic as well.
[15:55] <meat> thank you
[15:55] <tsimonq2> No problem.
[15:56] <meat> i just wasn't sure there was actually anyone here
[15:56] <tsimonq2> There's people here, just not all day. :)
[15:56] <meat> fair enough lol
[17:49] <oxek> when will Lubuntu 18.04.1 LTS be released?
[17:49] <tsimonq2> It was already released.
[17:49] <tsimonq2> https://lubuntu.me/bionic-1-released/
[17:50] <oxek> https://lubuntu.net/downloads/ still links to 18.04
[17:50] <tsimonq2> That's not our official site.
[17:51] <tsimonq2> We have zero control over it.
[17:51] <oxek> really?
[17:51] <tsimonq2> Really really.
[17:52] <oxek> is there any place where I can confirm which site is official?
[17:52] <wxl> everywhere
[17:52] <tsimonq2> ^
[17:53] <wxl> this channel's topic, wikipedia, distrowatch, anywhere on ubuntu.com, you name it
[17:53] <oerheks> same as ubuntu.nl, not ours, but they fairly link to us
[17:53] <tsimonq2> I'm the Lubuntu release manager, my GPG key signs every one of my uploads, you're welcome to confirm with me.
[17:55] <oxek> strange, has it always been the case? I've only ever used the .net site
[17:55] <tsimonq2> It's been the case for years now.
[17:56] <wxl> ever since .me has existed it has been the official site
[17:56] <oxek> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/flavours links to .me so that's good enough proof for me
[17:56] <oxek> I check the pgp signatures anyway after downloading the .iso
[17:56] <wxl> to be fair, .net never was because no member of the team ever had access to it (except for the original co-founder who hasn't contributed to the project since the dawn of the project)
[17:57] <oxek> thank yuo all
[17:57] <wxl> i think the PGP signatures as it relates to the ISO hashes are signed by a general ubuntu key, btw
[17:59] <oxek> yes. Good signature from "Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:59] <oxek> for the shasum files
[23:01] <openchromehelp> hi, xserver-xorg-video-openchrome driver requires resetting monitor settings for normal display (VGA: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 02)), I do that by setting lxrandr, but that does not set such configuration for the login screen (lightdm i believe)
[23:01] <openchromehelp> is there a way to make that configuration persistent, including for the login screen?
[23:03] <lynorian> openchromehelp, there might be a setting in the lighdm config that you have to set with the same adjustment
[23:04] <wxl> and you can run xrandr in autostart to have it work for the xsession
[23:04] <wxl> i'm pretty sure you have to have x running for xrandr to work, though
[23:04] <openchromehelp> (adding info) or maybe, is there a script/package that sets this? lubuntu 15.10 used to work fine, but that driver came with the installation.
[23:05] <openchromehelp> the X work fine
[23:05] <openchromehelp> the screen is just bent diagonally to the left
[23:05] <openchromehelp> i will try xrandr
[23:06] <wxl> xrandr does NOT save anything
[23:06] <openchromehelp> oh
[23:06] <wxl> you'll have to add it to autostart to have it work
[23:06] <wxl> it's not saving it, but it's re-setting it every time
[23:06] <wxl> so that will fix keeping the config presistent
[23:06] <openchromehelp> let me check if the settings are being saved for a second time
[23:06] <wxl> as for the login screen, that's something i'm not totally clear on
[23:07] <wxl> i would think lynorian made a good guess
[23:09] <openchromehelp> lynorian: system -> lightdm gtk+ greeter?
[23:10] <openchromehelp> (adding info) lxrandr is saving the configuration, after login screen, the display is set correctly
[23:10] <openchromehelp> onto lightdm i guess
[23:10] <lynorian> openchromehelp, yeah I don't see an option in the gui to set that
[23:11] <wxl> openchromehelp: are you saying after setting it correctly, if you log out, everything is fine?
[23:11] <lynorian> wxl my interpretation is openchromehelp has used the save button in lxrandr which has been added after you started using lubuntu
[23:12] <lynorian> so that when logging in it is correct but not at the lightdm screen
[23:12] <lynorian> and the save button autostarts it
[23:12] <wxl> um, lightdm = logging in, no?
[23:13] <lynorian> yes
[23:14] <wxl> right so assumedly the log in screen would look wrong initially, but after logging out, it would work
[23:19] <openchromehelp>  [20:12] <lynorian> so that when logging in it is correct but not at the lightdm screen
[23:19] <openchromehelp> this
[23:19] <openchromehelp> i will have to work on this later
[23:50] <holywater> back
 [23:11:13] openchromehelp: are you saying after setting it correctly, if you log out, everything is fine?
[23:50] <holywater> yes
[23:51] <holywater> lxrandr saves the settings, whatever they are
[23:51] <holywater> i was at a school, they were closing, sorry for abrutly ending that
[23:55] <holywater> https://gist.github.com/ciarand/8592193
[23:55] <holywater> possible solution
[23:56] <holywater> copied to https://pastebin.com/5L207grt


[16:50] <airurando> evening all
[16:59] <airurando> 13.04 release day tomorrow
[17:00] <airurando> I am still hoping to make the party on Sunday
[17:00] <airurando> my old school buddy is still planning on attending
[17:01] <airurando> what was his nick again chrono800 or something like that
[17:11] <tdr112> airurando: good stuff
[17:22] <airurando> aye tdr112
[17:22] <airurando> he reckons he will have some geeky friends along also
[17:25] <tdr112> are you driving them all up
[17:36] <airurando> no
[17:37] <airurando> I've my little op on Friday
[17:37] <airurando> not sure how I'll be by Sunday
[17:37] <airurando> He booked into the ibis for Sunday night
[17:38] <airurando> If I'm good to go I'll meet him there and we will get the LUAS in
[18:30] <tdr112> well best of luck with the op
[18:33] <airurando> cheers


[01:01] <daftykins> cyanogenmod's charging animation is so cool
[01:01] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/dyy49wnasakd4ad/cm-screen-charge.png
[01:01] <daftykins> it's the % represented by a pie-chart ring, which rotates around :D
[01:05] <penguin42> yeh there are a load of different settings I think - which CM are you on?
[01:06] <daftykins> it's the milestone 4 release of v11, built 8th March for this older HTC One X+ of my mums
[01:07] <daftykins> rather than nightlies, when i was fiddling i chose to go with the latest milestone release :>
[01:07] <penguin42> yeh I want to update to 11 of my phone
[01:08] <penguin42> hmm, what version did I put on this nook; the poor things battery is very very confused
[01:08] <penguin42> charge_now 1974000, charge_full 1513000
[01:08] <daftykins> hahaha
[01:09] <penguin42> cm thinks it has less than 1% of battery life  - who knows
[01:12] <penguin42> ah yes, it's on 10.2.1 and the auto-update thing is failing when it reboots to install
[05:05] <mapps> hey all
[06:37] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:44] <mapps> morning MooDoo
[06:45] <Gargoyle> mornin'
[06:48] <mapps> sup all
[06:49] <diplo> morning all
[06:50] <mapps> watching suits
[06:50] <mapps> :D
[06:50] <mapps> rachel = super hot
[06:59] <MooDoo> mapps: prefer donna :D
[06:59] <mapps> :D
[07:43] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:44] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[07:45] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[07:46] <SuperMatt> Choo choo!
[07:46] <SuperMatt> I don't know why I said that
[07:46] <SuperMatt> but I did
[07:47] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: you didn't complete it with chuffa chuffa
[07:47] <MooDoo> wooowoooooo
[07:59] <brobostigon> weeeeeweeeeeweeeeeee
[08:09] <Myrtti> whee new irssi ♥ https://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/14728269061/
[08:24] <MooDoo> hehe
[08:24] <MooDoo> Myrtti: how many channels? lol
[08:24] <Myrtti> 23
[08:25] <MooDoo> lol
[08:25] <Myrtti> that's pretty low for a staffer
[08:25] <MooDoo> ah of course
[08:25] <SuperMatt> when you say new irssi, do you mean there's a new version, or you've skinned it in a funky way?
[08:25] <Myrtti> new version as per you can see on top of the irssi window.
[08:26] <SuperMatt> yes indeed, does that come with the new look?
[08:26] <Myrtti> I'm not sure if there are any themes yet that support the extended colours yet
[08:27] <Myrtti> but splitlong is no longer needed
[08:27] <SuperMatt> so it's an entirely new look for irssi
[08:27] <SuperMatt> interesting
[08:27] <Myrtti> no, not really
[08:27] <SuperMatt> oh
[08:27] <Myrtti> that cow is a test to see if the colours would work inside irssi
[08:28] <foobarry> i use nickcolor in irssi
[08:29] <Myrtti> yeah so do I, I'm not sure if there already is a version that would support more colours
[08:29] <Myrtti> it would certainly be useful
[08:30] <foobarry> weechat is similar and supposed to be good
[08:32] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tell An Old Joke Day!  "Ouch!" he said.  It was an iron bar.
[08:35] <davmor2> morning all
[08:36] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[08:40] <JamesTait> davmor2, o/
[08:40] <davmor2> burglar breaks into a house, shines his light around and hears a voice "Jesus is watching you!", guy freezes turns off the torch, but nothing happens, he turns the torch back on shines it around again and hears "Jesus punishes bad people", the guy shines his torch in the direction of the voice and spots a parrot, "Was that you", "Yes" says the parrot, "You're clever what's your name", "Moses", "Who calls a parrot Moses", "Same people who call t
[08:41] <davmor2> heir rottweiler Jesus"
[08:41] <MooDoo> lol
[08:42] <davmor2> JamesTait: one old joke for you
[08:42] <MooDoo> davmor2: you're an old joke yourself aren't you?????? lol haha ;)
[08:43] <davmor2> MooDoo: Still not as old as you and popey :P
[08:43] <JamesTait> Very good, davmor2. :)
[08:44] <davmor2> JamesTait: it's also the cleanest joke I know :D
[08:47] <MooDoo> davmor2: touche!
[08:47] <davmor2> MooDoo: you are welcome ;)
[10:19] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:19] <bigcalm> Who here likes GIT?
[10:20] <bigcalm> I've just merged a branch and it's said that 2 changes were made to one file:
[10:20] <bigcalm>  codebase/htdocs/app/models/booking.php |    2 +-
[10:20] <bigcalm> How do I find out what those changes were?
[10:22] <diplo> git diff booking.php ?
[10:22] <diplo> Ah how about git whatchanged
[10:23] <bigcalm> git diff : nothing
[10:23] <bigcalm> git whatchanged : commit log messages
[10:23] <bigcalm> I need to see the code differences
[10:23] <bigcalm> Aha
[10:23] <bigcalm> I can do git diff origin/test
[10:25] <bigcalm> Thank you, rubber ducky
[10:47] <davmor2> bigcalm: I like you and you're a git does that count ;)
[10:48]  * bigcalm kippers davmor2
[10:48] <davmor2> bigcalm: is that a no?
[10:48] <bigcalm> davmor2: guessing you were a little tired last night. Me, Ron, Ad, Simon & Sam was the complete party
[10:49] <davmor2> bigcalm: I knocked off at 10:50 I figured it might be too late to walk up at that time
[10:50] <bigcalm> davmor2: I had left by 21:30
[10:50] <bigcalm> My yawning was getting in the way of chatting
[10:52] <davmor2> bigcalm: yeah so no point then :D
[10:55] <bigcalm> I do enjoy programmerexcuses.com
[10:55] <bigcalm> "It's an unexpected emergent behaviour of several last minute abstractions"
[11:02] <davmor2> bigcalm: or codswallop as it is otherwise known
[11:03] <bigcalm> 14.04.1 - out in August do you thing?
[11:03] <bigcalm> thing/think
[11:07] <bigcalm> My printer sounds as though it's about to take off
[11:07] <bigcalm> Damn thing must be hot
[11:08] <bigcalm> Considering that it's 28.8C in here, not too surprised
[12:49] <DJones> bigcalm: 14.04.1 is showing up as available when I ssh to my server as of this morning
[12:50] <MooDoo> lsb_release -a
[12:50] <MooDoo> oops lol
[12:51] <MooDoo> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[12:51] <MooDoo> yup me too
[12:51] <davmor2> bigcalm: Thursday most likely
[12:51] <DJones> I just don't think the iso's are available yet (or maybe just syncing on the servers)
[13:03] <bigcalm> My 12.04 server hasn't suggested I upgrade to 14.04.1
[13:04] <DJones> Ah, actuallyy just checked, I've misread it, its the HWE warning & suggestion to upgrade to 14.04
[13:19] <davmor2> bigcalm: that's cause it isn't released yet, probably be out on THURSDAY!!!!
[13:19] <bigcalm> davmor2: indeed, thanks
[13:19] <bigcalm> davmor2: My statement was more for DJones
[13:20] <davmor2> bigcalm: I let you off then don't do it again ;)
[13:20] <bigcalm> Tsk
[13:21] <davmor2> bigcalm: you'll be able to play with apt rather than apt-get too :D
[13:23] <bigcalm> Aww, I'm used to apt-get
[13:23] <bigcalm> Fear change
[13:23] <MooDoo> +1
[13:23] <bigcalm> Is Debian moving to apt as well?
[13:23] <davmor2> bigcalm: but apt is nice
[13:24] <MooDoo> I honestly can say I've never used it
[13:24] <davmor2> bigcalm: you get progress bar on installs, search is awesome, show is like policy only better, list is great fun
[13:24] <davmor2> MooDoo: try it out
[13:25] <davmor2> bigcalm: yes it's apt 1.0 so it's not feature complete, but it is stable.  They need to add autocomplete and then it really is good
[13:35] <bashrc> is there a difference between apt and apt-get?
[13:35] <davmor2> bashrc: yes
[13:35] <bigcalm> 4 chars
[13:35] <bashrc> I suppose it is less typing
[13:36] <davmor2> bashrc: no it's more currently till autocomplete works :)
[13:36] <bashrc> does apt actually stand for anything?
[13:36]  * penguin42 never understood why there was an apt-get and an apt-cache
[13:36] <foobarry> they fixed that in the latest penguin42
[13:36] <bashrc> me neither
[13:37] <foobarry> its short for aptitude
[13:37] <foobarry> which is the debian app from yesteryaer
[13:37] <bashrc> I liked aptitude
[13:37] <foobarry> i remember using dselect to install stuff
[13:37] <davmor2> bashrc: apt 1.0 is meant to be more like aptitude command line, so rather than having to deal with dpkg, apt-get and apt-cache fo most basic stuff you can just use apt
[13:37] <foobarry> yum localinstall is mega useful
[13:37] <foobarry> installs a rpm but pulls in deps
[13:38] <bashrc> ah, that would make more sense.  A bit like yum
[13:38] <bashrc> yum install, yum search...
[13:40] <davmor2> foobarry: apt isn't short for aptitude, apt was there long before aptitude.  Apt is Advanced Package Tool, aptitude came along latter and needed a name to say it was apt + some
[13:41] <foobarry> i stand corrected and informed
[13:41] <davmor2> foobarry: Apt is to dpkg what yum is to rpm effectively
[13:44] <foobarry> synaptic too
[13:44] <foobarry> that was uggly
[13:44] <foobarry> uuuuuuuuuuuuuugly
[13:44] <foobarry> but faster than software centre,
[13:44] <davmor2> foobarry: well that was just a gui tool to face apt
[13:46] <foobarry> indeedy
[13:46] <davmor2> foobarry: new click store is way faster
[13:49] <foobarry> the what?
[14:20] <diddledan> morning
[14:26] <Azelphur> I did this yesterday, http://pastebin.com/QDVNg05V XD
[14:27] <diddledan> o_O
[14:28] <diddledan> I'm not sure what that alludes to
[14:28] <Azelphur> diddledan: guy posts phishing website -> I attack it and its down 4 minutes later
[14:29] <diddledan> aah
[14:29] <diddledan> what did you attack it wiht?
[14:29] <Azelphur> diddledan: a python script I crafted for attacking phishing websites, it sends a continual stream of randomly generated credentials
[14:29] <diddledan> hah
[14:29] <Azelphur> the idea being that any useful credentials are buried in a sea of randomly generated crap
[14:29] <diddledan> I like
[14:30] <Azelphur> :)
[14:44] <diplo> Azelphur, is it still down today ?
[14:48] <foobarry> why not tell the ISP?
[14:48] <foobarry> or DNS hosting
[14:52] <mapps> hi all
[14:53] <mapps> so hot again
[14:54] <Azelphur> diplo: yea
[14:55] <foobarry> i wouldn't know
[14:55] <foobarry> windowless basement dweller
[14:59] <Myrtti> Azelphur: was this in channel or pm?
[15:02] <Azelphur> Myrtti: in channel
[15:02] <mapps> so hard to sleep with this heat
[15:04] <Azelphur> mapps: indeed :(
[15:05] <foobarry> Myrtti will slap them
[15:05] <Azelphur> mapps: it doesn't help that I have a building site next door to me, and that they seem to be intent on starting at about 7am in the morning
[15:05] <foobarry> throw some bitcoins at them
[15:07] <daftykins> XD i really enjoy Azelphur's evil genius side
[15:07] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:08] <mapps> :(
[15:08] <mapps> im near a cut through road
[15:08] <mapps> not main but busy enough so i cant open my windows
[15:25] <daftykins> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/10/hooverman.gif
[15:25] <daftykins> SFW
[15:25] <daftykins> no idea why that one's doing the rounds but hey, it's slightly amusing
[15:27] <Myrtti> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rpeCvBvTkpw#t=66
[15:27] <Myrtti> that's why
[15:28] <daftykins> did you think i didn't get the reference?
[15:28] <foobarry> eww https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID Note: This page is about Ubuntu 9.10. It may not apply to newer versions anymore.
[15:28] <foobarry> top link on the GOOG
[15:28] <directhex> software raid /o\
[15:28] <daftykins> foobarry: you can write the new one! ;)
[15:28] <foobarry> one of the worst pages i've found
[15:29] <foobarry> Note: Be aware of the fragile state of RAID support in Ubuntu and what it takes to get a reliable raid setup (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid).  Now I actually have something to look forward to in my trip to Finland for two weeks
[16:33] <daftykins> what's that?
[16:33] <Myrtti> I just rented a wooden woodfired outdoor bathtub for a week :-D
[16:34] <Myrtti> bath barrel, whatever it is
[16:34] <diddledan> hotub
[16:34] <Myrtti> yeah.
[16:34] <diddledan> hottub
[16:34] <diddledan> with bubbles?
[16:34] <diddledan> :-p
[16:34] <Myrtti> no. Just a fire :-D
[16:35] <Myrtti> http://paljupulju.fi/kylpykuva2.jpg
[16:35] <daftykins> what will the surrounding weather be like at this time?
[16:35] <daftykins> lol that's hilarious
[16:35] <Myrtti> I don't care, I'd sit in it even if it were below 0
[16:35] <daftykins> well i'm just curious is all
[16:35] <Myrtti> I've been thinking and dreaming about it since February
[16:35] <Myrtti> people actually do use them in the winter.
[16:35] <Myrtti> Just put a hat on.
[16:36] <Myrtti> but yeah, I'm flying in week from now on Friday
[16:37] <maps|wrk> hi
[16:50]  * penguin42 wonders if he should change the locale to EN_yk on his mailserver now that bytemark have moved it across the pennines
[16:50] <diddledan> yk?
[16:51] <penguin42> York
[16:51] <diddledan> I'm not entirely sure that's a valid locale
[16:51] <daftykins> Myrtti: i just generally wondered what the weather was like there, i had no comment on it being an issue to be cold and use one of those
[16:53] <Myrtti> daftykins: it's 31C° there now
[16:53] <daftykins> ouch!
[17:01] <daftykins> hmm single bay Synology DS112j NAS, add a 1TB WD Red HDD and that's £131.17, not bad at all
[17:01] <daftykins> or move up to 2TB for £150.15
[21:16] <mapps> :D
[21:21]  * StevenR wonders when 14.04.1 will be released. Schedule says today... do-release-upgrade says nothing new
[21:23] <mapps> :<
[21:49] <penguin42> StevenR: Does it say which timezone?