[09:54] <momal> xsacha: should formating into ext3 take up 3.9 gb?
[09:54] <duane> but i wanted to finally use my usb soundcard on linux
[09:54] <jel> Anyways.  gotta go.  bbl
[09:54] <Mike2k6> jel, yep dirty dirty work goes on there though haha
[09:54] <xsacha> momal: what size is your ahrd drive
[09:54] <Mike2k6> jel, later
[09:54] <duane> would never work with dapper
[09:54] <duane> works with edgy
[09:54] <xsacha> momal: by default ext will reserve 5%
[09:54] <xsacha> you can remove that
[09:54] <scheuri> momal: actually no...but...do you have dual boot? what for you want to use that partition of 3.9 gb?
[09:55] <xsacha> i think his hard drive is 80gb
[09:55] <momal> xsacha: well the harddrive is 80gb (but then its acualy like 75gb due to how companys say it) but now its only got like 71gb free
[09:55] <scheuri> xsacha: bingo...:)
[09:55] <xsacha> yes momal, that's reserved
[09:55] <xsacha> choose -m 0 when you write as ext3
[09:55] <xsacha> tunef2fs -m 0
[09:55] <scheuri> momal: that means you took the whole harddisk as one partition, right?
[09:56] <xsacha> if you've made it already
[09:56] <eilker> help pls, what is this dump xorg for ??when i open computer instead of kde login screen, console comes in front of me, whe i write startx , it says "xauth: creating new authority file" "user not authrized to run x server" i close console, kde login screen comes, it doesnt accept my password, from menu i say go to console, and i write startx in console, than i am able to get desktop....any idea pls ?
[09:56] <xsacha> momal: tune2fs -m 0 /dev/hd??
[09:56] <scheuri> xsacha: is it a good idea to put that reserve to 0?
[09:56] <momal> yea whoel harddisk as one parttion.. its for an extra space to copy some stuff on for a friend.... so im currently sitting at 830gb lol
[09:56] <xsacha> then you will have 100% of your hard drive
[09:57] <amir> does anyone here know much about wireless?
[09:57] <momal> xsacha: thanks :)
[09:57] <scheuri> momal: ah, so you dont boot from that disk...its just extraspace which will be mounted somewhere in a existing install=
[09:57] <momal> yup
[09:57] <xsacha> the 5% is just reserved blocks for root, you do not need it
[09:59] <eilker> newbie here, could someone pls check my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29846/ ??
[09:59] <Mike2k6> i installed build essential but i didnt see anything go into the menu's, i need gcc to compile my work on develop so i can see it
[10:00] <duane> gcc wont be in the menus
[10:00] <Jucato> Mike2k6: you won't see it in the menus since gcc is a command line app
[10:00] <Mike2k6> Jucato, oh?
[10:00] <duane> cause it's going to be a bitch just to learn your way around the kdevelop interface
[10:00] <duane> teach yourself the language first
[10:01] <Jucato> Mike2k6: yes. some apps might use it in the background, like KDevelop perhaps.
[10:01] <Jucato> but you GCC itself from the command line
[10:01] <Mike2k6> duane, im just typing in the text file and clicking save...
[10:01] <Mike2k6> Jucato, im using kdev
[10:01] <duane> then it makes even more since to use kate
[10:01] <Jucato> duane: some people learn using a text editor, some using an IDE. they can learn the language either way
[10:01] <Mike2k6> duane, its cause kate is a girl name...
[10:02] <duane> Mike2k6: lol
[10:02] <scheuri> heheh
[10:02] <Mike2k6> Jucato, so i type like compile new1
[10:02] <Jucato> Kate = KDE Advanced Text Editor
[10:02] <scheuri> Jucato: still sounds a gorl...;)
[10:02] <Jucato> Mike2k6: something like "gcc <file>"
[10:02] <scheuri> *girl
[10:02] <eilker> i hope someone answers me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29847/
[10:02] <Mike2k6> kk
[10:02] <Jucato> Katie is supposed to be Konqi's girlfriend...
[10:03] <Jucato> I don't know if katie == kate
[10:03] <duane> i remember a slashdot article about this learning a language using an ide vs. text editor issue
[10:03] <duane> lemme see if i can dig it up
[10:03] <Mike2k6> hey whenever i save a file in kdevelop what is the extension on it?
[10:03] <Mike2k6> ex the file name is new1
[10:03] <Mike2k6> so new1.c?
[10:03] <duane> depends on the language
[10:04] <Mike2k6> c++
[10:04] <duane> .cpp
[10:04] <Jucato> duane: maybe for some an IDE gets in the way, for some it helps. it's personal preference
[10:04] <eilker> test , people do u see this message, i am connected or not ??
[10:04] <duane> Jucato: i see
[10:04] <Mike2k6> eilker, sorry, your not connected.
[10:04] <Jucato> Mike2k6: you'll use g++ rather than gcc then
[10:04] <Mike2k6> Jucato, someone told me you can use gcc.....
[10:04] <Mike2k6> duane, liers...
[10:04] <Jucato> eilker: we can look at your xorg.conf all day, but you have to tell us if there's anything wrong in the first lace
[10:05] <Jucato> Mike2k6: ah yeah you can I guess
[10:05] <scheuri> eilker: try to run dpkg-reconfigure debconf and choose "dialog"
[10:05] <Mike2k6> Jucato, what do i save a file as to do the c++ thing?
[10:05] <fdoving> hi jucato. :)
[10:05] <Jucato> hi fdoving!
[10:05] <Mike2k6> duane, you win ill use kate, jerk......
[10:05] <Mike2k6> lol
[10:05] <duane> lol
[10:05] <scheuri> eilker: that should at least kill some error messages
[10:05] <Jucato> Mike2k6: err dunno :)
[10:05] <duane> Mike2k6: read http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/21/0340220
[10:05] <eilker> scheuri: it gives errors,
[10:05] <Jucato> haven't done C/C++ in a long time...
[10:05] <duane> losts of good reasons why you shouldn't use an IDE to start off with
[10:06] <duane> lots*
[10:06] <eilker> my problem is,  when i open computer instead of kde login screen, console comes in front of me, whe i write startx , it says "xauth: creating new authority file" "user not authrized to run x server" i close console, kde login screen comes, it doesnt accept my password, from menu i say go to console, and i write startx in console, than i am able to get desktop....any idea pls ?
[10:06] <Jucato> and last time I did it was with Turbo C
[10:06] <Mike2k6> duane, im reading c++ tutorials at the moment lol
[10:06] <eilker> and i think that, it is related with xorg.conf
[10:06] <Jucato> er... I'm not really that interested in reading /. articles...
[10:06] <scheuri> eilker: try "sudo kdm" when on command line
[10:06] <Jucato> sorry, /. comments I mean
[10:06] <duane> what? /. comments > *
[10:07] <Jucato> :P
[10:07] <Jucato> like I said, personal preference
[10:07] <duane> digg.com comments i could see you know wanting to waste time with hehe
[10:07] <scheuri> Jucato: is not a real geek then...;)
[10:07] <duane> scheuri: exactly what i was thinking
[10:07] <eilker> scheuri: i tried, it asks password, and nothing happens
[10:07] <Jucato> if that's the criteria, then no I'm not
[10:08] <scheuri> eilker: okay...what about "sudo startx"
[10:08] <momal> hmm what should be set to make another user ability to edit/delete files on my new harddrive ? (ext3)
[10:08] <momal> seems it doesnt' want to allow it >_<
[10:08] <momal> under root i can :p
[10:08] <eilker> scheuri: nothing happens, by the way , now i am using kubuntu
[10:08] <scheuri> momal: have a look at /etc/fstab for how to mount your harddrive....other paritions of harddrives will use "users" as parameter...that is what you want
[10:09] <scheuri> eilker: hmmmm...did you upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[10:09] <eilker> scheuri: yes i did,
[10:09] <Mike2k6> mike@Mikes-desktop:~$ gcc test
[10:09] <Mike2k6> test: file not recognized: File format not recognized
[10:09] <Mike2k6> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[10:09] <eilker> scheuri: and i have apache2 working background, and mysql,and php
[10:09] <scheuri> eilker: okay...the stuff you pasted is actually not very usefull, you need to post your xorg.conf
[10:10] <scheuri> eilker: that means everything is fine except your Xorg
[10:10] <eilker> scheuri: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29847/
[10:11] <scheuri> eilker: no...that is NOT your config-file of xorg.conf
[10:11] <scheuri> eilker: that are "only" the error messages
[10:11] <eilker> scheuri: so sorry  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29846/
[10:13] <fdoving> eilker: can you try to run 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg' - looks like debconf have problems configuring your xserver-xorg package.
[10:13] <scheuri> eilker: make this a "sudo aptitude install --reinstall xserver-xorg"
[10:13] <scheuri> fdoving: sorry for interrupting...
[10:14] <fdoving> scheuri: please continue, i'm pretending to do some other work here :)
[10:14] <scheuri> fdoving: heh, easy...it is just that aptitude can handle dependencies a bit better...
[10:15] <fdoving> scheuri: i prefer apt-get :)
[10:15] <scheuri> :)
[10:16] <scheuri> eilker: furthermore...when issuing the command dpkg-reconfigure there is a tool called "debconf" started...which now is ordered to show its graphics on X-server...you can change that to make it shown on command line easier
[10:16] <eilker> scheuri: i did it and got many errors ,see pls http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29848/
[10:16] <B-Minus> hmmz
[10:17] <eilker> fdoving: i did it and got many errors ,see pls http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29848/
[10:17] <B-Minus> how come I have like 3 browers installed by default .. firefox, mozilla-firefox, mozilla
[10:17] <B-Minus> whats up with that
[10:17] <scheuri> oh my...we are kind of stuck here
[10:17] <duane> uninstall all of them
[10:17] <duane> and install opera
[10:18] <scheuri> eilker: okay...the lines with "X Error" are mainly because the tool "debconf" is called and that tool is ordered to use X as graphical interface right now...and that does not work....
[10:18] <scheuri> eilker: gimme a second
[10:18] <eilker> scheuri: ok sir
[10:19] <fdoving> eilker: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall debconf'
[10:19] <scheuri> eilker: if you call me sir just one more time.....arrrr...:)
[10:20] <eilker> scheuri: i say to my friends too:))
[10:20] <scheuri> fdoving: probably wont work as then again (for install preparation) debconf is called which wont work....
[10:20] <fdoving> scheuri: debconf isn't called when re-installing debconf.
[10:20] <scheuri> fdoving: oh...okay...
[10:22] <eilker> fdoving: i did it and....  ,see pls http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29849/
[10:23] <scheuri> fdoving: the first few lines indicates that debconf or some sort of pre-dialog is started....
[10:24] <scheuri> eilker: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure --frontend=dialog debconf"
[10:25] <momal> garr copying hd->hd kills my box lol!
[10:25] <scheuri> momal: seems that DMA is not enabled?
[10:26] <momal> dma ?
[10:26] <scheuri> DMA = Direct Memory Access (go get wikipedia)
[10:26] <eilker> scheuri: i did it,
[10:26] <scheuri> eilker: any error messages?
[10:27] <eilker> scheuri: no error during doing it
[10:27] <scheuri> eilker: okay...try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again
[10:28] <momal> hmm how fast should i beable to copy between 2 ide harddrives?
[10:28] <eilker> scheuri: same errors like before :(
[10:28] <momal> both 7200 rpm
[10:28] <scheuri> eilker: really?....arrrrrr
[10:28] <eilker> scheuri: yes...
[10:28] <scheuri> eilker: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -f dialog debconf"
[10:29] <fdoving> scheuri: add '-plow' maybe.
[10:29] <scheuri> momal: that depends on a lot of things....
[10:29] <eilker> scheuri: same things...
[10:30] <scheuri> fdoving: I dont know that parameter...
[10:30] <momal> scheuri: cpu: amd x2 4200, 2gb ram... pretty much nothing using cpu
[10:30] <scheuri> eilker: it seems to ignore the frontend-thingy
[10:30] <fdoving> scheuri: priority, -plow sets the priority threshold of questions asked.
[10:30] <scheuri> momal: well, I was merely speaking about stuff like DMA, Harddisk-parameters and stuff...hdparm is your friend...:)
[10:31] <fdoving> eilker: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow -freadline debconf'
[10:31] <scheuri> fdoving: oooh...-plow in one word?
[10:31] <fdoving> scheuri: yes.
[10:31] <scheuri> eilker: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -fdialog debconf" then...maybe that works...then we stard with plow ;)
[10:33] <momal> wholy crap
[10:33] <momal> talk about speed increase with dma
[10:33] <scheuri> momal: heh
[10:33] <eilker> scheuri: same things....dont we have a repair tool for system files in kubuntu, like in xp. what happens if i reinstall kubuntu again ?
[10:33] <momal> i was getting 8-11mb/s now im getting 31 :D
[10:34] <scheuri> eilker: do you have your data on a seperate partition?
[10:34] <eilker> scheuri: hda1 and hda5 are win xp, and hda7 is kubuntu
[10:34] <scheuri> eilker: do you have any data on hda7?
[10:35] <intelikey> what do you do when you get a hacker by the tail ???
[10:35] <eilker> scheuri: of course i have data , will kubuntu format hda7 when i reinstall it ??
[10:35] <scheuri> eilker: yes....
[10:36] <scheuri> eilker: like windows would do
[10:36] <eilker> scheuri: nope windows does not format
[10:36] <intelikey> eilker depends if hda7 is / or not...
[10:36] <eilker> intelikey: it is root
[10:36] <scheuri> eilker: well, if your system and personal data is on same partition (eg. c:) and then you reinstall windows...I dont think there is much left
[10:37] <intelikey> no he's not....
[10:37] <scheuri> eilker: but that is another story...sorry...I am out of ideas..I am still on dapper though
[10:37] <intelikey> eilker root as in /  then yes it will be formated.
[10:38] <eilker> scheuri: ok friend, i cant lose my datas , and all downloaded updates:) and i cant listen to music too now, it says xine cannot be started
[10:38] <eilker> scheuri: is it also releated with xorg?
[10:39] <livingdaylight> anyone know how Firefox knows to choose one application like Totem over another? Trying to get it to open a link with VLC coz Totem can't
[10:40] <livingdaylight> In System/Preference/Preffered Applications all one can change is browser and email clients. Be nice to see a whole list of preferred options
[10:40] <intelikey> tried right click open with ?
[10:41] <intelikey> oh that's konq
[10:41] <fdoving> eilker: before deleting anything. can you run 'sudo nano /var/cache/debconf/config.dat' - hit ctrl-w to search, and search for 'Name: debconf/frontend' - what does the Value: line say?
[10:41] <intelikey> nm
[10:41] <scheuri> eilker: yes...everything that somehow needs graphics (such as xine) is releated to XORG as this is the X-Server....
[10:41] <Jucato> that's firefox's problem... not kde's :P
[02:57] (Th3_Cr0up13R/#kubuntu) hope its not too big
[02:57] (astronaute/#kubuntu) xsacha:  I have for sure : libsdl-perl, perl , libc6, libsdl-mixer1.2
[02:57] <astronaute> perlapi dunno whats that
[02:58] <xsacha> libsdl1.2debian?
[02:58] <astronaute> eh debian
[02:58] <astronaute> sec
[02:58] <Th3_Cr0up13R> even if i did the get update it still says that i got dapper ?!
[02:58] <astronaute> yes
[02:58] <astronaute> have it too
[02:59] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: i don't understand.. of course you have dapper, update doesnt change that, you're thinking dist-upgrade
[02:59] <astronaute> Th3_Cr0up13R:  you want to UPGRADE no UPDATE ?
[02:59] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ooo right
[03:00] <Th3_Cr0up13R> on the get update i got some hit and an address does that mean i do something with them or does it just show me where it got the stuff
[03:00] <xsacha> yeah they should all be hit
[03:01] <xsacha> just shows you where you d/led package info from
[03:01] <astronaute> Th3_Cr0up13R:   basicly if you dont install stuff manually, just change dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.lst and do a : apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:01] <xsacha> astronaute: find where all your fb_stuff.pm's are? (in frozen-bubble directory..)
[03:02] <kuid87> scusate un programma per emulare i cd tipo daemon
[03:02] <xsacha> have one in: ~/frozen-bubble-2.0.0/save_virgin/fb_stuff.pm ?
[03:02] <xsacha> where ~ is wherever you installed it to
[03:02] <xsacha> should also have fb_stuff.pm in: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8/fb_stuff.pm
[03:03] <Th3_Cr0up13R> astronaute: that is manually right? im fairly new in all this
[03:03] <astronaute> xsacha:  no perl in /usr/local/lib :///////////
[03:03] <xsacha> ah
[03:03] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i dont want to mess something up but i like experimenting and learning , loving linux
[03:03] <astronaute> Th3_Cr0up13R: manually means not BY Adept
[03:04] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: it's alright, don't need to upgrade to edgy yet
[03:04] <astronaute> yes dont do it anyway if you dont need
[03:04] <xsacha> although, i'm curious as to why you went with dapper instead of edgy :P i think you just installed?
[03:04] <Th3_Cr0up13R> xsacha: y not? thought the upgrades are good
[03:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> better
[03:05] <astronaute> Th3_Cr0up13R:   dapper have 3 years of support and irts pretty stable
[03:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> fair enough
[03:05] <astronaute> Th3_Cr0up13R:  edgy is quite new and may be pain in the ass
[03:05] <xsacha> it's a pain in the ass to upgrade, some people have bad upgrade stories anyway
[03:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> well in that case since im new i will need lots of support hehehe
[03:05] <redmonkey> i have kubuntu 6.10 here and i have noticed that there is no kmail entry in the k-menu
[03:05] <xsacha> were you able to find "kdevelop" in Adept now Th3_Cr0up13R?
[03:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> no
[03:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> xsacha: no even after the update i didnt
[03:06] <xsacha> hmmm
[03:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i tried kdev, kdevelop , kdeve but nothing
[03:06] <xsacha> in Adept, go to Adept->Manage Repositories
[03:06] <xsacha> you see any deb or deb-src that are grey?
[03:08] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yes 3 pairs
[03:08] <xsacha> right click and enable those 6
[03:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ok
[03:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> now i do another get update i suppose
[03:09] <xsacha> then Apply, then Fetch Updates
[03:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> the apply button didnt get activated but they got bold
[03:09] <xsacha> didn't you see the message Jucato? DOS attacks
[03:10] <Jucato> whoa...
[03:10] <Th3_Cr0up13R> looks like there is no need to apply or fetch something
[03:10] <xsacha> did you click fetch updates?
[03:10] <Jucato> there is always a need to Fetch Updates, after editing sources.list.
[03:10] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yep
[03:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> xsacha: yes i did
[03:11] <xsacha> Jucato: kdevelop is in dapper, right? :S
[03:11] <Jucato> xsacha: hm... seems like I'm connected to kornbluth.freenode.net...
[03:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it did something very quickly then thats it
[03:11] <Jucato> xsacha: I think the name is kdevelop3 in Dapper
[03:11] <xsacha> k
[03:11] <xsacha> "kdev" should list them all anyway
[03:11] <Jucato> yep yep
[03:12] <xsacha> seeing it yet Th3_Cr0up13R?
[03:12] <Jucato> hm... this is going to be hard without ubotu around....
[03:12] <luca_b> kdevelop3 is the name
[03:12] <astronaute> xsacha:  you think that if i reinstall perl maybe it will be corectly created in /usr/local/libs/perl ?
[03:12] <Th3_Cr0up13R> xsacha:  i tried kdev but i dont get anything apart from liblockdev
[03:12] <luca_b> (in Dapper) - I checked packages.ubuntu.com for safety
[03:15] <Jucato> my connection is a bit slow today... :(
[03:15] <xsacha> same distro, we should have same perl directory :S wonder why you dont have /usr/local/libs/perl :S
[03:15] <astronaute> heee
[03:15] <astronaute> =)
[03:15] <Th3_Cr0up13R> no nothing yet
[03:15] <xsacha> your gfs computer is 64-bit too?
[03:15] <astronaute> yes
[03:15] <astronaute> i have pango frozen-bubble in there
[03:15] <astronaute> python too
[03:15] <astronaute> but no perl
[03:15] <astronaute> i try reinstalling perl
[03:15] <astronaute> sec
[03:15] <xsacha> oh by the way, /usr/local/lib/perl *  no s on libs :P wondering why i had no directory found
[03:15] <Th3_Cr0up13R> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  deb
[03:15] <Th3_Cr0up13R> everytime i fetch update it goes back to disable by itself
[03:16] <xsacha> did you click Apply?
[03:16] <Th3_Cr0up13R> no because its not active
[03:16] <Jucato> O_O
[03:16] <astronaute> =))))
[03:16] <xsacha> huh? it should be active even if you change nothing :S
[03:17] <xsacha> hmm, have you used konsole much?
[03:17] <xsacha> hmm, alt+f2 and type: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:18] <xsacha> then just remove the hashes(#) from the front of them and save
[03:18] <astronaute> xsacha:  /usr/bin/perle
[03:19] <astronaute> when i type which perl
[03:19] <dev> Anyone here managed to install a Jdk on kubuntu?
[03:20] <xsacha> yes astronaute, but you need the perl libs..
[03:20] <xsacha> for me they are in /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 :S
[03:21] <astronaute> xsacha:  yes sure
[03:21] <Th3_Cr0up13R> xsacha: then i suppose i try to update again
[03:21] <xsacha> it's also in /usr/lib/perl, but frozen bubble uses local
[03:21] <Th3_Cr0up13R> lets see
[03:21] <astronaute> but how to get them
[03:21] <xsacha> yes Th3_Cr0up13R
[03:22] <xsacha> don't know astronaute :( i think perl came with kubuntu.. hers is clean install to edgy?
[03:22] <astronaute> xsacha:  can i just copy them from my computer ?
[03:22] <astronaute> xsacha:  no upgrade from dapper
[03:22] <xsacha> aha, it might have other files :S
[03:22] <xsacha> oh, yours isnt upgrade from dapper though?
[03:22] <astronaute> nope
[03:22] <xsacha> ahh
[03:22] <astronaute> dont tell me i have to reinstalla all
[03:22] <astronaute> =))))
[03:22] <xsacha> :P no
[03:23] <xsacha> hmm libperl5.8  <-- i dont have this installed
[03:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> xsacha:  thanx a lot i found it and looks like its is downloading it
[03:24] <xsacha> :D
[03:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> thank you
[03:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i hope i can do some programming now
[03:24] <xsacha> strange that manage repositories didnt work though :s
[03:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i got lots to learn
[03:25] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yeah i know, every time i open adept it is gray, unless i try to install something it will stay gray
[05:53] (DaSkreech/#kubuntu) It's why I stick with Kopete though I want to drop it off a cliff three times a day
[05:53] (DaSkreech/#kubuntu) BluesKaj: What's she scared of?
[05:53] (lambengolmor/#kubuntu) sorry, I need to copy the address book of kontact but my kubuntu broke while trying upgrade to edgy.. can anyone tell me where is it by default?
[05:54] (xsacha/#kubuntu) this is why you dont use gnome apps in kde when you dont have much RAM :P http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8546/gtkinkdeix0.png (after killing one app)
[05:54] (sledge_at_work/#kubuntu) Lam_: somewhere ~/.kde
[05:55] <xsacha> omg *drools* the packaging makes me want to have it right now: http://static.flickr.com/109/286546536_82ea90042b.jpg
[05:55] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, not being able to do the things she's used to doing...she's rather linux phobia'd I'm afraid, from my previous failed efforts to install Linux and get all the hardware and software top work
[05:55] <zorglu_> xsacha: yep on a 'stable' os :)
[05:56] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Why not use bitlbee (makes everything appear as just irc)
[05:56] <xsacha> wonder how much they spent on designing that packaging
[05:57] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I've just installed Edgy, and I'm noticing one really annoying problem...
[05:57] <Digital_Pioneer> Whenever I drag windows, or scroll on a webpage, etc. it takes a moment for the display to clear off the old and "repaint" the new.
[05:57] <bianconeri__> what package should i install when getting this error :configure: error: X Screensaver extension header files not found!"??\
[05:58] <Digital_Pioneer> It gives the feel that I'm always running too much stuff and it's having trouble doing something so simple as moving a window...
[05:59] <manchicken> How does one unlock the dpkg database when adept crashes?
[05:59] <xsacha> kill adept
[06:00] <xsacha> sudo killall adept_manager   (or look for the pid and kill it)
[06:00] <sledge_at_work> manchicken: Make sure adept is not running and then "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lock"
[06:01] <manchicken> That didn't help.  Database is still locked.
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> !adept crash fix > manchicken
[06:02] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Sorry?
[06:02] <manchicken> h3sp4wn: That looks good.
[06:02] <xsacha> !botsnack
[06:02] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:02] <Sharketor> to start azureus I have to type "./azureus" in azureus folder
[06:03] <Tm_T> ubotu: Hi
[06:03] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: if you use that app you don't need to bother with kopete - you can just use everything with whatever you use for irc
[06:03] <Tm_T> :)
[06:03] <Sharketor> how can I create a desktop icon to do that???
[06:03] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: well make a  short list of the things she's scared of and the things she can benefit from and take a weekend and Live CD and walk her over
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Sharketor: Is it in your KDE menu?
[06:04] <soulrider> anyone here using conky ?
[06:04] <Sharketor> no
[06:04] <oyvind> can i install audacious whit apt-get?
[06:05] <Sharketor> I have downloaded the .tar.bz2 package
[06:05] <B-Minus> is there a calculator build in kubuntu ?
[06:05] <soulrider> Sharketor: you could make a scrips
[06:05] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[06:05] <manchicken> h3sp4wn: Much thanks for that.  It seems to have worked.
[06:05] <soulrider> to cd intot he az directory
[06:05] <Sharketor> then I have extracted it
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Sharketor: Right click your K menu and edit it to put in there (under Internet) and it will be picked up in katapult :)
[06:05] <soulrider> and then run az
[06:05] <B-Minus> i cant see a commandline calculator
[06:05] <DaSkreech> B-Minus: Press Alt+Space and do your calculations
[06:05] <DaSkreech> B-Minus: or use speedcrunch
[06:06] <dinosaur-rus> will Apache 2.2 be available in repositories?
[06:06] <soulrider> anyone know a good program to evaluate and plot functions ?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Kplot
[06:06] <B-Minus> DaSkreech: tnx
[06:06] <dinosaur-rus> souldrier: google ;)
[06:06] <soulrider> thanks DaSkreech
[06:06] <nickste> wooohoooo! I got beryl working :)
[06:07] <DaSkreech> nickste: Whoot!
[06:07] <soulrider> nickste: :) im using it right now too!
[06:07] <nickste> heheheh
[06:07] <nickste> I'm soooo stoked :) Messed around for ages to get it working
[06:07] <h3sp4wn> B-Minus: perl -e 'print 4 * 4;' (or whatever)
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Sharketor: Why didn't you apt-get it?
[06:07] <nickste> eventually did  a clean install, and started from the beginning
[06:07] <B-Minus> DaSkreech: katapult disapears in the background after inactivity ?
[06:07] <Sharketor> DaSkreech: I did, but the old version on repo crashed on my pc
[06:08] <DaSkreech> B-Minus: Umm not sure Mine doesn't
[06:08] <DaSkreech> B-Minus: Alt+ Space then Ctrl+C
[06:08] <DaSkreech> THat gets you the settings
[06:08] <Sharketor> DaSkreech: I do: create application link, on desktop
[06:08] <RawSewage> whats the command to totally remove a package
[06:08] <Sharketor> then i type "azureus2 as command
[06:08] <soulrider> sudo apt-get remove <name>
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Sharketor: Yes I was just wondering why you didn't apt-get it
[06:08] <Sharketor> and the work path
[06:08] <RawSewage> soulrider: remove wont remove the folder and settings
[06:09] <soulrider> uhm
[06:09] <soulrider> sudo dpkg -P <name?
[06:09] <soulrider> thats supposed to purge everything
[06:09] <RawSewage> ok ty
[06:09] <h3sp4wn> RawSewage: aptitude purge <name> or apt-get remove --purge <name> or dpkg -P <name>
[06:09] <Sharketor> DaSkreech: but when I launch it says: could not found azureus excutable
[06:09] <RawSewage> ok
[06:09] <eilker> !visudo
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about visudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <RawSewage> thx
[06:10] <RawSewage> I have to remove FF Flash
[06:10] <RawSewage> it crashes the browser
[06:11] <RawSewage> I realize I can change Depth to 24, but that seems worse than Depth 16 for some reason
[06:11] <RawSewage> in xorg.conf
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Sharketor: In the command try putting the path to the application
[06:11] <Sharketor> DaSkreech: how?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis>   /home/username/whatever/patjh/to/azuraus
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Sharketor: from the command line type which azeurus and use that
[06:12] <manchicken_> Anybody else having trouble getting emacs-snapshot-gtk to install?
[06:14] <Sharketor> DaSkreech: ok, problem solved
[06:14] <Sharketor> there is a file in the folder called azureus
[06:14] <eilker> !kdm >eilker
[06:14] <Sharketor> I did the link to this file
[06:15] <dinosaur-rus> !gaim
[06:15] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:16] <dinosaur-rus> !apache 2.2
[06:16] <dinosaur-rus> oh
[06:16] <DaSkreech> dinosaur-rus: Well when gaim 2.0 comes out it shoudl be updated
[06:16] <[cf] nightrid3r> i just installed compiz, how do i "activate" it?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> !compiz
[06:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Ah hmm
[06:17] <dinosaur-rus> DaSkreech: Gaim 2.0beta4 exists, but not in the repos and it contains some features I need
[06:17] <[cf] nightrid3r> oh :)
[06:18] <DaSkreech> [cf] nightrid3r: As I recall there is a compiz.start or a start-compiz script
[06:18] <deep__> Test. Test.
[06:18] <deep__> =)
[06:18] <DaSkreech> dinosaur-rus: try getdeb.net
[06:19] <dinosaur-rus> DaSkreech: well, what about Apache 2.2?
[06:19] <DaSkreech> dinosaur-rus: mail the maintainer
[06:19] <ubuntu__> hi
[06:19] <carlos_> Hi, everyone! I would like to know how to acess my secure memory card. Do anyone know how to do?
[06:20] <ubuntu__> how was the command to change the root from live cd
[06:20] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: chroot
[06:20] <ubuntu__> to use the root of my root partition
[06:20] <ubuntu__> DaSkreech: and aftetr that
[06:20] <DaSkreech> eh?
[06:21] <ubuntu__> I must show where is my root?
[06:21] <trappist> ubuntu__: you do like chroot /mnt/whatever and you're in your own partition
[06:21] <DaSkreech> sudo chroot path/to/the/new/root
[06:21] <ubuntu__> ok 10x
[06:25] <Ayabara> anyone using truecrypt?
[06:25] <jay> help!!
[06:25] <DaSkreech> !help
[06:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:26] <bipolar> Ayabara: I use it on some windows machines at work, but I've never used the linux version. At least not yet :)
[06:26] <dinosaur-rus> !apache
[06:26] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:26] <BluesKaj> !Komba2
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Komba2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <dinosaur-rus> !httpd
[06:26] <ubuntu__> how to repair grub boot manager from live CD
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about httpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <ubuntu__> !grub
[06:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:27] <DaSkreech> jay: ?
[06:27] <bipolar> ubuntu__: the link for lost grub after installing windows is what you want :)
[06:27] <dinosaur-rus> ubuntu__: try to chroot to your partition and run grub-install
[06:27] <Ayabara> bipolar: ok. I'll ask my question anyway :-), I get "FATAL: Module truecrypt not found.
[06:27] <Ayabara> truecrypt: Failed to load TrueCrypt kernel module" when I try to mount. I'm sort of new to linux, so I don't know how to attack this.
[06:27] <DaSkreech> dinosaur-rus: try apache2
[06:27] <ubuntu__> dinosaur-rus: ok I will try
[06:27] <felipe__> Hello guys, does anyone knows if there is a deb package for Angband or MAngband?
[06:28] <bipolar> Ayabara: there is a kernel module missing. A kernel module is kind of like a driver in windows
[06:28] <bipolar> Ayabara: need to find out what package has the truecrypt module in it.
[06:28] <Ayabara> bipolar: aha. thanks.
[06:28] <dinosaur-rus> DaSkreech: apache2 is 2.0.55 version
[06:29] <DaSkreech> dinosaur-rus: I know. mail the maintainers to see if they have 2.2 plans. If not then just make your own deb
[06:29] <ubuntu__> dinosaur-rus: how to use this tool
[06:29] <jay> help! how do i change to gnome?
[06:29] <ubuntu__> dinosaur-rus: grub-install
[06:29] <markowka> hej
[06:29] <DaSkreech> jay: You had Ubuntu installed?
[06:29] <bipolar> Ayabara: on a command line, try runing 'apt-cache search truecrypt' and look for a package that has 'module' in it's name. :)
[06:29] <jay> i have kubuntu but i want to try normal ubuntu
[06:30] <markowka> are you knwo a program like opendock for kubuntu?
[06:30] <jay> so can u tell me the commands to change and change back?
[06:30] <markowka> i love opendock ;)#
[06:30] <DaSkreech> jay: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <markowka> anyone knowes?
[06:30] <Ayabara> bipolar: ok.
[06:30] <jay> ty, so how do i change back after it?
[06:30] <jay> kubuntu-desktop?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> when you have to login there is a section named sessions
[06:31] <dinosaur-rus> ubuntu__: grub-install /dev/hda
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Select that and choose gnome or KDE
[06:31] <markowka> nobody wnat to chat with me?!
[06:31] <DaSkreech> jay: on the login screen. You know where I'm talking about?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> markowka: try O-T?
[06:32] <jay> yea
[06:32] <DaSkreech> jay: Ok Go to it :)
[06:33] <jay> ?
[06:34] <markowka> whre can i found this?
[06:35] <dive-o> Has anyone else upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 and had the bootup screen go "weird" - for example, I just see a bunch of lines that gradually fill between with solid color, not the nice looking splash I've seen screenshots of. Is there something I should check to make sure that got upgraded correctly?
[06:36] <EricJ> I installed 6.10 from a burned iso, and I get that bootup screen as well.
[06:36] <dive-o> not the nice pretty one shown off on the web?
[06:36] <EricJ> That's about it though - no further errors.
[06:37] <dive-o> I had some issues with my xorg.conf getting redone but that was easily fixed
[06:37] <EricJ> Nope, more something resembling pulled from an 80's version of msdos.
[06:37] <EricJ> But hey, it works.
 whre can i found?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> jay: Apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and logout
[06:38] <DaSkreech> markowka: Find?
[06:38] <EricJ> dive-o: Are you on an amd64 machine as well?
[06:38] <dive-o> EricJ: yup.
[06:38] <jay> what is apt-get!??!?!
[06:38] <jay> what do i do1?!?!?
[06:38] <EricJ> dive-o: Figured so
[06:39] <DaSkreech> jay: Oh Ok :)
[06:39] <DaSkreech> jay: do you use adept?
[06:39] <dive-o> I suppose I could give it a shot on a spare box around the office today that isn't amd64
[06:39] <EricJ> I wouldn't bother. I'm way too lazy. :)
[06:39] <DaSkreech> markowka: Where can You found waht?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> what?
[06:39] <kay> i have installed windows vista and after i installed grub back he cant find windows anyone knows how to handle this for windows vista?
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !grub
[06:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
 markowka: try O-T?
[06:40] <kay> THX
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !O-T
[06:40] <dive-o> EricJ: same here, I don't feel like hooking up another monitor/kbd ;-)
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about O-T - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !offtopic > markowka
[06:40] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: you're still here? checkout http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=234
[06:41] <markowka> achso... sorry
[06:41] <EricJ> Jesus.. I had no idea setting up a simple home network was such a hassle. I almost miss WinXP.
[06:41] <dive-o> what are you trying to do, specifically?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> markowka: you can hang out here as well :)
[06:42] <DaSkreech> jay: Hello?
[06:42] <dive-o> I've got several machines networked at home and kubuntu gave me no issues
[06:42] <EricJ> dive-o: Configuring samba, I guess. :s
[06:42] <zorglu_> q. during the last 2 days, i have my yahoo account reporting 'bad password', i havent changed the configuration at all and it was working before. is there anobody else with the same issue ?
[06:42] <zorglu_> using kopete
[06:42] <dive-o> EricJ: as a client or server?
[06:42] <EricJ> dive-o: Server. I think.
[06:43] <EricJ> dive-o: I'm kinda new to this concept, I'm learning as I go. :)
[06:43] <kay> DaSkreech:  thx for this tip but i need to know which entry windows vista need in grub?
[06:43] <dive-o> hmm, haven't tried that under kubuntu yet, my samba fileserver is NetBSD-based
[06:43] <dive-o> as far as using it as a client goes, that was pretty easy
[06:43] <EricJ> <-- clueless.
[06:44] <EricJ> We've got this small network with only 2 machines - one running WinXP and one Kubuntu. I'm trying to get them access to eachothers shares.
[06:45] <xsacha> samba
[06:45] <zorglu_> kay: look at http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html
[06:45] <CVirus> EricJ: with Kubuntu you could easily access your windows shares through Konqueror
[06:46] <EricJ> CVirus: Don't I need to configure workgroup names and so forth?
[06:47] <CVirus> EricJ: configure your windows machine
[06:47] <kay> DaSkreech: thx i have found other but i will look at this too
[06:47] <xsacha> smb://name/ or \\name
[06:47] <Nickenyfiken> hi, is it not possible to install DMRAID with 6.10 live cd?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> kay: Ok
[06:47] <DaSkreech> jay: Hello?
[06:47] <EricJ> I'll give it a shot. :)
[06:47] <kay> DaSkreech: thx again yours is very helpful
[06:47] <DaSkreech> kay: Thank you
[06:49] <zorglu_> maybe i should ask my weird kopete issue in a different manner :) i asked it 5 times during the last 2 days and nobody ever answered :)
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Possibly :)
[06:49] <dinosaur-rus> zorglu_: what's the problem?
[06:49] <bipolar> zorglu_: it's a yahoo server issue. I get it once in a while too.
[06:50] <DaSkreech> bipolar: Over 2 days?
[06:50] <markowka> have kubuntu a german channel?
[06:50] <zorglu_> dinosaur-rus: kopete complains about my password being wrong for yahoo, but it was working without issue before
[06:50] <zorglu_> bipolar: ok
[06:50] <zorglu_> !de
[06:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:50] <EricJ> CVirus: Thanks for the tip. Atleast the windows machine can connect to my 'nix now. (I just need to check which users are allowed)
[06:50] <Nickenyfiken> Is it possible to install edgy on a software raid0 array loading the live cd and then installing dmraid?
[06:50] <markowka> thx
[06:51] <bipolar> DaSkreech: off and on, yeah. if it hasn't worked at all in the past two days, thats another issue
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Well ICQ simply won't login for me
[06:51] <bipolar> zorglu_: has it worked at all in the past two days?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> What's a good screen capture program?
[06:52] <bipolar> damn upgrade... why won't you just use the packages from my edgy cdrom?!
[06:52] <zorglu_> bipolar: nope, every time i logged on during the past 2 days, i got the popup 'bad password' and i click cancel
[06:52] <bipolar> zorglu_: oh, then thats another problem.
[06:52] <ironfroggy> when will python 2.5 be available in apt?
[06:52] <sebastianbf222> hello: Does anyone knows how do I get transparents windows in kubuntu?
[06:52] <EricJ> DaSkreech: Ksnapshot?
[06:52] <bipolar> zorglu_: I don't know. I'm using kopete w/ yahoo right now.
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: It is already I think
[06:52] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: Still no login? And you have fixed version?
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> !info python edgy
[06:52] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[06:52] <zorglu_> bipolar: hmm ok
[06:52] <dinosaur-rus> zorglu_: I guess trying to use another client would be a good idea allowing you to see if the problem is in Kopete or Yahoo!
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: doubt it
[06:52] <WikinG> i am trying write file on MMC, but (i don't know why) it says "Couldn't change the permissions of "MMC" because it is on a read-only disk". How to make it non read-only???
[06:53] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: i do not see it.
[06:53] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: :p
[06:53] <DaSkreech> It works on edgy which is why I'm upgrading today
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Just to login into icq :-P
[06:53] <Tm_T> I see.
[06:53] <DaSkreech> EricJ: That's a screenshot program
[06:53] <zorglu_> dinosaur-rus: good point.
[06:53] <zorglu_> dinosaur-rus: but in both cases there is not much i can do :)
[06:54] <zorglu_> dinosaur-rus: except stop using yahoo and/or kopete
[06:54] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: so any idea when its to be available? or where i could maybe get a compatible package seperately?
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: It is in edgy (or was when I last used it)(
[06:54] <trappist> WikinG: I think most mmc cards have a physical switch you can flip for that
[06:55] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: the thing you just did say 2.4.3 was the newest in edgy
[06:55] <xsacha> grrr i keep getting: Ran out of GART memory! whenever i use something that is 3d (opengl)
[06:55] <zorglu_> q. is there a way in kopete to determine if i am currently connected or not to a given network ?
[06:55] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: how can i find what im running? i think dapper..
[06:55] <stamen_> how to make a ext3 partition to bi writable?
[06:55] <DaSkreech> zorglu_: Kinda :)
[06:55] <xsacha> zorglu_: the icon will be greyed out..
[06:55] <WikinG> trappist, noup
[06:55] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: cat /etc/issue
[06:56] <zorglu_> xsacha: hmm ok and i got a weird icon with a 'y' which is greyer out :)
[06:56] <DaSkreech> xsacha: not true al lthe time but that's a good checkstick :)
[06:56] <WikinG> trappist, SD have, but not MMC
[06:56] <zorglu_> xsacha: i guess this is yahoo
[06:56] <dinosaur-rus> stamen_: how to make FAT partition writeable? :)
[06:56] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: it just says "Ubuntu 6.06 LT \n \l"
[06:56] <DaSkreech> Dapper then
[06:56] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to ask kopete to connect to a unconnected network ?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> Dapper = 6.06
[06:56] <ironfroggy> ok. is apt capable of doing the upgrade to edgy?
[06:56] <trappist> WikinG: is that error message exactly as it appears? it makes sense that it can't change the permissions, because those are usually fat32, which doesn't understand unix permissions.  is it not writing to the device at all, or just not updating permissions?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> Breezy = 5.10
[06:56] <sebastianbf222> Does anyone knows how do I get transparents windows in kubuntu?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[06:56] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: There you go
[06:57] <xsacha> zorglu_: right click that icon, and put Online->Message None (dont know if it's same on yahoo)
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: I just checked (I hate python anyway) 2.4 is default but you can install 2.5 in edgy
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> !info python-2.5 edgy
[06:57] <ubotu> Package python-2.5 does not exist in edgy
[06:57] <xsacha> zorglu_: the password it is asking you for, is there a chance that is your KDE Wallet Password?
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: I forget the package name but it is there
[06:57] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: you hate perfection huh?
[06:57] <zorglu_> xsacha: oh now the icon is more more grey, i guess it is connected
[06:58] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: thanks
[06:58] <zorglu_> xsacha: and i didnt have any 'bad password' popup
[06:58] <zorglu_> xsacha: so it seems it was a server issue
[06:58] <xsacha> k
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: I hate needless typing - I don't need the language to restrict how I write my code (either ruby or perl are much nicer)
[06:58] <zorglu_> xsacha: about the kde wallet, it cant be the password it asked for because my kde wallet has no password :)
[06:59] <xsacha> hmm k
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: and it doesn't even have ++
[06:59] <zorglu_> xsacha: thanks for your help
[06:59] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: you should come to #python where it would not be offtopic for me to persuade you how those are very very good things.
[06:59] <WikinG> trappist, i can't change permissions, now i can't write files too. aproximmetly month ago i has written fils without problems
[06:59] <WikinG> trappist, ...files
[07:02] <trappist> WikinG: you could try remounting the device read-write, by hand.  you also might want to check the dmesg output when you insert the card, to see if it's complaining about anything
[07:04] <bipolar> stupid update manager.... it uses packages off the CD until it gets to one package thats newer on the update site. then it uses the update site for ALL remaining packages. Slow as hell.
[07:07] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to make kopete use the name of the network, instead of the icon ?
[07:09] <Tm_T> Nope.
[07:09] <zorglu_> ok so is there a way to determine which icon means which network ?
[07:10] <Tm_T> Yes, they are common representatives of that protocol.
[07:10] <zorglu_> what is 'common representatives' ?
[07:10] <Tm_T> Dunno how that is dealt with Oscar
[07:10] <Tm_T> zorglu_: No idea, that's the word came to my mind.
[07:10] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[07:11] <zorglu_> i have trouble finding out basic information with kopete :)
[07:11] <zorglu_> like i am connected to yahoo :)
[07:11] <Tm_T> And?
[07:11] <Tm_T> Doesn't Yahoo have it's own simple logo?
[07:11] <zorglu_> and ?
[07:11] <zorglu_> well i have trouble and i try to find solution :)
[07:12] <Tm_T> I see.
[07:12] <zorglu_> maybe the point is to determine which logo is yahoo :)
[07:12] <zorglu_> and kopete doesnt provide this info :)
[07:12] <beemer> afternoon all - anyone happen to have this mother board? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138036
[07:12] <Tm_T> zorglu_: Large red Y, I think
[07:12] <Tm_T> zorglu_: menu -> configure -> accounts
[07:12] <zorglu_> Tm_T: yep but in 2h i will have forgoteen this info :) i need something in which i could find it again :)
[07:13] <Tm_T> zorglu_: you have list of your accounts with their icons.
[07:13] <zorglu_> Tm_T: oh ok thanks.
[07:13] <Tm_T> Np.
[07:13] <Tm_T> I'm off for awhile, have fun kids. ->
[07:14] <h3sp4wn> !schedule
[07:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:14] <zorglu_> this factoid seems out of date :)
[07:14] <h3sp4wn> That is what I thought
[07:15] <zorglu_> q. is there another IM client with a simpler GUI than kopete ?
[07:15] <beemer> zorg: I like gaim
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> centericq (console) or bitlbee (im to irc gateway)
[07:15] <zorglu_> beemer: hmm yep gaim was good, i used it on fedora for a while.
[07:16] <zorglu_> h3sp4wn: so with bitlbee i could use konversation for IM networks ?
[07:16] <zorglu_> would be nice, konversation is simple to use
[07:17] <buz_> are those kde 3.80.2 packages safe?
[07:18] <h3sp4wn> zorglu_: Yep
[07:19] <h3sp4wn> buz_: Read the krash release notes (I would say no - intended for people porting apps to qt4 not for general use)
[07:19] <buz_> h3sp4wn: it says i can have them alongside kde3?
[07:19] <buz_> as long as i can switch them off without destroying the rest of my edgy thats fine
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> buz_: Maybe you can but it looks the same as kde 3.5.4 but with qt4 that is all
[07:20] <aseigo> yes, though you probably don't want to run them straight inside a kde3 session (switching users or running a session e.g in xephyr/xnest is still recommended)
[07:20] <buz_> h3sp4wn: i want to try okular's pdf annotation stuff on my tablet
[07:21] <buz_> ok if the master himself says it should work i'll try ;)
[07:22] <buz_> h3sp4wn: unless you know of any linux app to annotate pdfs there's a feature i want from it ;)
[07:23] <h3sp4wn> buz_: Try finding a backported version for kde 3.5.5
[07:23] <buz_> there isnt one i'm told
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> What is the app called ?
[07:24] <zorglu_> okular has a channel for it
[07:24] <buz_> yes i know
[07:24] <buz_> i asked there a few weeks ago ;)
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> the app is called okular ?
[07:24] <buz_> yes, okular.org
[07:24] <buz_> its like kpdf4
[07:25] <zorglu_> ah yeah, #kpdf is the channel for it
[07:25] <buz_> http://kpdf.kde.org/okular/screenies/okular-annotations.png
[07:25] <buz_> that is my personal killer feature
[07:25] <jel> buz_: *apparantly*, scribus can do annotations on pdfs, as long as the PDF isn't huge
[07:25] <Ayabara> Im trying to build a kernel to get truecrypt to work. I get this error: Building kernel module... cd: 132: can't cd to Kernel. can anyone help me with this?
[07:25] <buz_> jel: worth a shot i guess
[07:26] <buz_> Ayabara: do you have a specific reason why you cant use dm-crypt?
[07:27] <Ayabara> buz_: 1. I didn't know of it. 2. I'm trying to mount an already existing tc volume :-)
[07:27] <buz_> ok, second one seems like a good one ;)
[07:27] <buz_> to be honest i never really got truecrypt working myself
[07:28] <buz_> if you still have windows running, you could create a dmcrypt volume (which can be mounted using freeotfe on win) and copy the data over
[07:28] <Ayabara> buz_: maybe that's what I will do then. can I dmcrypt an entire drive?
[07:29] <buz_> yes
[07:29] <buz_> although you likely dont want to encrypt your root partition
[07:29] <buz_> search for encrypted storage on wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:29] <Ayabara> buz_: ok. not any ideas on how to solve my problem? it's not a general build problem maybe?
[07:29] <Ayabara> buz_: ok. thanks
[07:30] <KennyTheFreak> How do i pair a bluetooth device in KDE?
[07:30] <KennyTheFreak> i dont want to do sudo hidd --search all the time :P
[07:31] <buz_> Ayabara: are you using edgy?
[07:31] <KennyTheFreak> yeah
[07:31] <buz_> cause there are binaries for dapper
[07:31] <Ayabara> buz_: yep
[07:31] <KennyTheFreak> woops
[07:31] <KennyTheFreak> :P
[07:31] <_JP> The check state of Tools->HTML Settings->Java is reset every time I restart Konqueror. Is there any way to make the setting to retain it's check state? (using edgy)
[07:31] <Ayabara> tried the binary for dapper, but when I tried to run it said it could not load the truecrypt kernel module
[07:32] <chx> after xresprobe gets installed , Kubuntu install dies.
[07:32] <carlos_> Hy, everyone! I have tried to acess my digital card reader (combo) on kubuntu 6.10, but anything happens! When i connect the card anything goes on. Can anyone help me? Thanks
[07:32] <buz_> Ayabara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto this one is reasonably good i think
[07:32] <buz_> theres a few more
[07:33] <buz_> carlos_: is it an usb reader?
[07:34] <archangel_> I go to play a dvd movie and I'm told that I may not have enough rights to play or a bad disk, but I cant play the movie
[07:34] <alambra> :-)
[07:34] <archangel_> sheesh
[07:34] <jel> _JP: that's strange.  Try running konqueror from a konsole, to see if you get any errors.  Sounds like it can't contact the settings service, or it can't save the config file.  As a last restort, you could remove konqueror's settings in ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc
[07:34] <carlos_> buz_: No. I use a notebook that has a door to put the card. Do you have any idea in how to solve the problem?
[07:35] <jel> _JP: oh, remove the settings for khtml too, perhaps
[07:35] <buz_> if its a toshiba notebook i know for sure that the reader is not supported
[07:35] <jel> _JP: and any related .lock files you see :)
[07:35] <buz_> for others that might be true as well
[07:37] <_JP> jel: ok thanks for the ideas. let me try :)
[07:38] <jp> I already have kubuntu 6.10 and it works 99.9%
[07:39] <jp> I'll like to make a clean installation of it, but when I do the installation, although it says that the partition ext3 will be formatted, when it finishes, all the previous information is still there
[07:39] <jp> how can I remove this info so as to make a real clean install. I don't want to loose my partition 6 which is home
[07:40] <_JP> jel: hmm, should konqueror output something? all i get is those usual X errors; "Failed to open device"
[07:40] <h3sp4wn> jp: manually run sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/whatever
[07:40] <jel> jp: That sounds strange, but to fix it, manually edit the partition table.  Just select your ext3 partition, delete it, and create one exactly the same.
[07:40] <_JP> too many jp's around :)
[07:41] <jel> jp: yep, or you can format it yourself from a shell with mkfs.ext3, if you're OK with that
[07:42] <jp> as soon as I do the mkfs.ext3 all the data in ext 3 will be lost? that means that kubuntu will stop working right there?
[07:42] <jel> _JP: nope.  It might output stuff about kconfig or something like that.  But if it's not doing so, that's good :)
[07:43] <jel> _JP: try changing the settings, and make sure no errors appear in the terminal
[07:44] <_JP> jel: nothing while actually changing the setting and either nothing while closing after changing the setting..
[07:48] <jel> _JP: ok.   Hmmm.  I'm out of ideas then; sorry.
[07:48] <_JP> jel: in which file are khtml settings? removing konquerorrc doesn't seem to help
[07:48] <jel> _JP: well, you could also do sudo chown yourusername:yourusername ~/.kde
[07:48] <_JP> jel: hrm, so it remembers the check state for you? my konqueror can remember everything else but not the check states of those tools
[07:49] <Ayabara> buz_: hmm. I made a symlink called 'kernel' and now it seems to get a step further for some reason..
[07:49] <Ayabara> just fyi :-)
[07:49] <jel> _JP: I was thinking of kio_httprc
[07:50] <jel> _JP: which exact checkbox is it?  did you say the java button?  The one about enabling java globally?
[07:50] <_JP> Tools->HTML Settings->Java
[07:51] <_JP> it didn't work for me in dapper either
[07:52] <jel> _JP: ahh, I don't have that extension installed.  I thought you were talking about the ones in the preferences.   Are you aware that they're per-site?
[07:52] <_JP> and this is a fresh and clean installation of edgy. i'm sure i haven't messed up anything
[07:52] <jel> _JP: at least, I think they are :)
[07:53] <_JP> jel: oh... :) it's just that every single time i visit some map service it nags about java being not turned on..
[07:54] <EricJ> Firewalls.. great. <3 windows machines.
[07:54] <_JP> it stays checked until i restart konq
[07:55] <jel> gah!  I just accidentally removed the menu bar from konqueror on my ibook, which doesn't have a right mouse button setup yet, so I can't turn it back on :/
[07:55] <jel> _JP: *sigh*  I think your best bet is to enable java for that site in the preferences
[07:55] <nnn0> Ctrl-M
[07:56] <jel> nnn0: thanks! :)
[07:56] <nnn0> np :)
[07:56] <nnn0> been there :D
[07:56] <FJ_Sanchez> Hello
[07:56] <FJ_Sanchez> I have problems after upgrade to Edgy
[07:56] <FJ_Sanchez> All things of KDE are slow
[07:57] <FJ_Sanchez> KPDF, konsole
[07:57] <FJ_Sanchez> Any ideas?
[07:57] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: more memory?
[07:57] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: check your dns?
[07:58] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: especially that there's no delay in resolving your own machine's hostname, and that of localhost
[07:58] <FJ_Sanchez> top says 6000k free
[07:58] <FJ_Sanchez> jel the problem is with apps
[07:58] <thorty> any tip for a real good irc-chat applikation?
[07:58] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: it always says something like that :)   Look at how much swap you're using :)
[07:58] <FJ_Sanchez> I can use Firefox without problem
[07:59] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: nevertheless, check it out.
[07:59] <FJ_Sanchez> I'm using 17776k of swap
[07:59] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: how much memory do you have?
[07:59] <FJ_Sanchez> 512MB
[07:59] <jel> thorty: konversation is about the best, I think
[08:00] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: ahh, more than enough.   Unless you're running google earth at the same time :)
[08:00] <FJ_Sanchez> Heheh, not the case
[08:00] <FJ_Sanchez> I don't know why is this..
[08:00] <jel> the 16MB of swap is small relative to your memory, too.
[08:00] <FJ_Sanchez> I think it's something related to the kio things
[08:00] <jel> FJ_Sanchez:  how slow is slow?
[08:00] <FJ_Sanchez> ie, I click to open terminal
[08:01] <tempuser> thorty: xchat is also quite good. And it's available for Windows and Linux
[08:01] <FJ_Sanchez> It show me the window but I cannot write until 1 minute
[08:01] <FJ_Sanchez> More or less
[08:01] <FJ_Sanchez> It's a lot of time
[08:01] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: hhhm.  That is weird.
[08:01] <FJ_Sanchez> Really
[08:02] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: where to other apps pause, and for how long?
[08:02] <jel> brb
[08:02] <FJ_Sanchez> For example konversation, kpdf, konsole
[08:02] <FJ_Sanchez> Al KDE stuff
[08:02] <jel> (back, listening)
[08:03] <FJ_Sanchez> Sorry?
[08:04] <jel> I had to run out there for a sec, so I was just letting you know that I was back, and reading what you were saying.
[08:04] <jel> in other words, continue :)
[08:05] <FJ_Sanchez> I tried to purge and reinstall konkeror and kdebase-kio-plugins
[08:05] <BuFF> how to install flash player for opera 9.0 ?
[08:05] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: what stage do other applications pause at?  The same point, just after opening the window, but before drawing the buttons etc.?
[08:06] <FJ_Sanchez> same point
[08:06] <FJ_Sanchez> When you open it
[08:06] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: don't have lots of fonts installed, by any chance?
[08:06] <FJ_Sanchez> Mmmm, maybe
[08:06] <FJ_Sanchez> I'm not sure
[08:06] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: unless you added lots that aren't in ubuntu, it'll be ok
[08:07] <FJ_Sanchez> I'll look this
[08:08] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: well, if I were you, my next step would be to run konsole through strace, and see what the last line of output is before it pauses.  It may or may not be useful, but there's a reasonable chance :)
[08:08] <bipolar> Can someone please toell me how to upgrade to edgy via the CD? Apt simply refuses to use the cdrom source to upgrade, and upgrade manager, even though I tell it to NOT use the network connection, uses it anyway.
[08:08] <bipolar> if I disconnect the network, update manager fails becouse it can't download package lists.
[08:08] <FJ_Sanchez> But it never crashed
[08:08] <FJ_Sanchez> It's only really slow
[08:09] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: that's OK.  strace tells you what an app is doing, not what it did before crashing
[08:09] <bipolar> I've tried update-manager -c, and the cdromupgrade script on the cdrom. they both do the same thing.
[08:09] <FJ_Sanchez> Ohhh!!
[08:09] <FJ_Sanchez> Now I know the problem
[08:09] <Lars_G> Hello
[08:09] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: specifically, it tells you the system calls being made
[08:09] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: Ohh?
[08:09] <FJ_Sanchez> I think it's because it's waiting to scim but I don't ahve it installed after upgrade
[08:09] <FJ_Sanchez> :D
[08:09] <Lars_G> I am going to burn the kubuntu 6.10 dvd for i386 but I'd like to check the md5 sum first, and I can't find it anywhere.
[08:10] <Lars_G> is it posted somewhere?
[08:10] <FJ_Sanchez> I'll install it
[08:10] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: ahh.  possibly :)
[08:10] <Lars_G> uh oh, scim
[08:11] <FJ_Sanchez> I'm going to install it, back in a moment
[08:11] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:11] <bipolar> it seems silly to me that update-manager is downloading from archive.ubuntu.org, at ~50K, when all the packages are right here on my cdrom.
[08:12] <CVirus> oops
[08:12] <CVirus> I apologize
[08:12] <CVirus> sorry about that
[08:12] <mariusz> pl?
[08:12] <flavio> hi all, does anybody know where to find the kubuntu system settings source code?
[08:12] <nagyv> bipolar: are you sure that you have the recent versions?
[08:13] <bipolar> nagyv: yes, I have the kubuntu edgy cd here, and the md5sums match
[08:13] <bipolar> I can't even get apt to use it.
[08:13] <nagyv> bipolar: is the cd-rom in your sources.list file?
[08:13] <Lars_G> please
[08:14] <bipolar> nagyv: deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025)] / edgy main restricted
[08:14] <CVirus> !upgrade
[08:14] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:14] <mariusz> ubuntu pl zna ktos adres
[08:14] <mariusz> bo nie wiem jak dodac do listy
[08:14] <Lars_G> bipolar: where did you find the md5sum to match it?
[08:15] <nagyv> mariusz:  #ubuntu-pl ?
[08:15] <bipolar> Lars_G: from the md5sum file on the host
[08:15] <mariusz> dzieki
[08:15] <Lars_G> bipolar: I don't see any in the dvd section
[08:15] <bipolar> Lars_G: I'm not using the DVD
[08:15] <Lars_G> bipolar: I am and I can't find the md5sum to check before I burn the dvd
[08:16] <myky> hi all speak someone czech or slovak?
[08:16] <FJ_Sanchez> jel: All solved!
[08:16] <bipolar> CVirus: that page doesn't help me with my problem. It's expecting a http upgrade
[08:16] <FJ_Sanchez> Thank you very much my friend!
[08:16] <flavio> ok, second try: does anybody know where the kubuntu "system settings" source code is?
[08:17] <CVirus> bipolar: I werent addressing you !
[08:17] <FJ_Sanchez> One more thing, why I cannot get coloured prompt in the tty
[08:17] <FJ_Sanchez> ??
[08:17] <FJ_Sanchez> All is grey
[08:17] <bipolar> CVirus: ahh, ok. next time use "!tell" with ubotu :)
[08:19] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: all solved?  sweet :)
[08:20] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: that's just a setting in your shell startup scripts.  You'll have to do it manually on ubuntu, I think.
[08:20] <FJ_Sanchez> I have it changed in my .bashrc
[08:21] <FJ_Sanchez> I get a coloured prompt in konsole and Eterm
[08:21] <FJ_Sanchez> But not in tty
[08:21] <spahija> hi guys..is there a kubuntu version with ncurses installation ?
[08:21] <chx> I am installing through a very slow line (took 11 minutes to download 33.7Mbytes) , is there a way to check how much apt still needs to download?
[08:21] <FJ_Sanchez> And also I'd like to change the resolution of the tty
[08:21] <chx> oh, and i am running netinst, no cd rom on this machine
[08:22] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: change the res by editing your grub kernel options (video=somemode)
[08:22] <FJ_Sanchez> ok
[08:23] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: sounds like your bashrc is only doing it conditionally, based on whether DISPLAY is present, or something?
[08:23] <FJ_Sanchez> Mmm, but it's the same bashrc I had before upgrading
[08:24] <FJ_Sanchez> And before that it worked
[08:24] <jel> FJ_Sanchez: oohh.  That's also strange.  Sorry, don't know.
[08:24] <FJ_Sanchez> Mmm
[08:24] <FJ_Sanchez> Thanks anyway
[08:24] <jel> spahija: you can install as server, and then just use aptitude
[08:25] <spahija> jel, where is server cd ? what is it called ?
[08:25] <jel> spahija: I'm not 100% suer it's texture.
[08:25] <nastas> hello everybody
[08:25] <jel> *textual
[08:25] <jel> spahija: it's a boot option on the normal install CD, last I checked
[08:25] <spahija> jel, hm,,,
[08:25] <jel> nastas: hi
[08:25] <spahija> jel,  you mean safe ?
[08:26] <jel> spahija: no, but it was there with options like safe, last time I looked.  Might have been taken out in edgy for some reason?
[08:26] <FJ_Sanchez> How can I get Kmix running on login?
[08:26] <spahija> jel, well I see not server or text option
[08:27] <jel> spahija: might be a separate server cd now?
[08:27] <spahija> jel, options look like this --> http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/original/Kubuntu%206.10/1.gif
[08:28] <nastas> what exactly are you talking about?
[08:28] <jel> can't see it; I'm temporaily on a server without much gui stuff installed
[08:28] <spahija> nastas, talking about if its possible to use text install on latest kubuntu
[08:28] <jel> he's looking for a way to install (k)ubuntu without graphics -- a textual install
[08:29] <RawSewage> what do I install to encode mp3 to ogg?  lame or liblame0
[08:29] <jel> anyway, it's been a long day; I'm gonna go eat dinner and relax for a while.  bye all :)
[08:29] <nastas> how different is (k)ubuntu from ubuntu?
[08:29] <FJ_Sanchez> bye jel
[08:29] <nastas> bye
[08:30] <spahija> nastas, well KDE = kubuntu , GNOME = ubuntu :D
[08:30] <nastas> sorry but i'm new in linux
[08:30] <TheGateKeeper> nastas: no difference just uses different desktop
[08:31] <nagyv> nastas: if you wan't we can wrote more also about this topic, but probably the users of ubuntu would not agree with us :)
[08:31] <dhq> i cannot play any video files i can just hear the audio
[08:31] <nastas> ;)
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> nastas: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes
[08:31] <duane_> nastas: it's more of a difference between KDE and Gnome
[08:31] <spahija> dhq, missing codecs for them
[08:32] <duane_> nastas: in my honest opinion KDE is more windows like and is way more customizable
[08:32] <duane_> nastas: alot of people think that KDE's customizable nature makes it unintuitive however
[08:32] <TheGateKeeper> dhq: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[08:33] <duane_> nastas: i also find and a few memory tests prove that KDE is more 'snappier' than gnome
[08:33] <nastas> it is?
[08:33] <nastas> is it?
[08:33] <dhq> spahija: TheGateKeeper i have all the codecs installed how do i check it again
[08:34] <duane_> nastas: imo yes
[08:34] <duane_> More ubuntu users use gnome however so there's more documentation over it
[08:34] <duane_> it's just a personal preference
[08:34] <duane_> if i were you i would try both and see which you like
[08:34] <nastas> i think i'm gonna try KDE
[08:34] <TheGateKeeper> dhq: you have done all it says in that guide?
[08:35] <duane_> good choice :D
[08:35] <Search4Lancer> anyone know of a good webcam program that actually works?
[08:35] <Search4Lancer> gqcam keeps freezing up on me
[08:36] <dhq> TheGateKeeper: i could play all my movie file the last week and the i just added an upgrade with atomatix and now i can play any files
[08:36] <nagyv> Search4Lancer: for what use?
[08:36] <nastas> i'm from Greece and i live in an Island.
[08:36] <Search4Lancer> for your basic webcam use.... :-P for on a site
[08:36] <nastas> i'm the onlyone here with linux
[08:37] <nagyv> Search4Lancer: try vlc
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> dhq: try #automatrix sorry no sympathy
[08:37] <nagyv> nastas: never mind, we are here with you! :)
[08:37] <duane_> !automatix
[08:37] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[08:37] <duane_> ^
[08:37] <duane_> you can install everything automatix does much easier and safer with apt-get
[08:38] <nastas> i agree with duane_
[08:38] <nastas> apt-get is better
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> well...
[08:39] <TheGateKeeper> if you really need to run automatrix...
[08:39] <TheGateKeeper> then install either kanotix, pclinuxos or sabayon
[08:40] <nastas> what exactly you wanna do GateKeeper?
[08:40] <pygi> who can learn me what KDE has by default for wireless networks? :)
[08:40] <beemer> http://http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=NF61V%20Micro%20AM2 - Anyone have this Biostar mb working in edgy?
[08:40] <cryptonic> hey can someone help me with a problem iv been having in gparted
[08:40] <cryptonic> ?
[08:41] <steff> hi. running kubuntu edgy. installed firefox 2.0 (apt-get install firefox). when i click the firefox icon it wont start up. im getting the "loading ball" but nothing happens. any suggestions?
[08:41] <TheGateKeeper> nastas: well I'm installing gentoo :-)
[08:41] <nagyv> pygi: wireless assistant
[08:41] <duane_> steff: install opera :D
[08:41] <pygi> nagyv: and I'd find that where? :)
[08:41] <steff> duane_: :D but that wont get my firefox to run :)
[08:42] <sledge_at_work> steff: open a konsole, type   firefox  , and hit enter.
[08:42] <duane_> pygi: kmenu -> internet -> wlassistant
[08:42] <duane_> steff: that's the point!
[08:42] <steff> sledge_at_work: tried that, nothing happens
[08:42] <nagyv> if it's already installed then under K-menu->internet, if it's not then adept, but if you need wpa, then you need wpa_supplicant (if I remember well)
[08:42] <nagyv> pygi: ^^
[08:42] <pygi> nagyv: cannot install anything, live cd --> trying beryl
[08:42] <steff> duane_: :) i like internet, not music
[08:42] <ian__> any big issues with edgy?
[08:43] <cryptonic> hey can someone help me with a problem iv been having in gparted?
[08:43] <sledge_at_work> steff: try  firefox --g-fatal-warnings
[08:43] <nastas> cryptonic
[08:44] <steff> sledge_at_work: still nothing happens :(
[08:44] <nastas> what problem do you have
[08:44] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I have a slightly unusual request: I need to batch rename a folder of music files from "Title - Artist.mp3" to "Artist - Title.mp3" How do I do that?...
[08:44] <cryptonic> I have a new 125gig partion which  i cant find at all  in nautilus, iv partitioned it to fat32 and ext 3 withought change to the problem
[08:44] <Digital_Pioneer> This is probably not the right place, but I have no idea where to go with it... :]
[08:44] <cryptonic> it says in gparted that it isnt mounted but i cant find an option anywhere to mount it
[08:45] <beemer> Digitial - give me a few min - i think I can do a small script for that
[08:45] <TheGateKeeper> Digital_Pioneer: with a bash script
[08:45] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: Really? Sweet!
[08:45] <nastas> you can manually mount from a console as root
[08:45] <pacou> anyone using guarddog firewall? i need help forwarding a custom port.
[08:46] <Digital_Pioneer> TheGateKeeper: I'm afraid I'm not even sure what bash is (beyond a scripting language) but if you could suggest one... :D
[08:46] <nastas> r u running ubuntu cryptonic?
[08:46] <cryptonic> yep
[08:47] <TheGateKeeper> Digital_Pioneer: if beemer gives you a bash script you might find this helpfull http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#toc6
[08:47] <jan__> how long does it approximately last till a patch for kopete is applied to the official version of kubuntu? (Bug 136566, cant connect to icq)
[08:47] <cryptonic> you can manually mount from a console as root? how?
[08:48] <TheGateKeeper> Digital_Pioneer: if you know python, or perl you could probable use either of them too
[08:48] <nastas> did you run the command fdisk -l ?
[08:48] <Foxolo> hi!!
[08:48] <Search4Lancer> nagyv: so far, vlc does absolutely, positively nothing. Can't even play videos in it nonetheless capture from a cam
[08:48] <nastas> cryptonic? did you run the command fdisk -l ?
[08:49] <cryptonic> nope
[08:49] <nastas> run this command in a console
[08:49] <cryptonic> ran it
[08:50] <nastas> you will see something like: /dev/hda mpla mpla mpla
[08:50] <nastas> is it right?
[08:51] <cryptonic> well it just gives disk info
[08:51] <nastas> ok
[08:52] <nastas> can you see the partion you want to mount?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> !pl
[08:52] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:52] <nagyv> Search4Lancer: I used this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29918/ script to capture videos to a file. I hope it will help to you.
[08:53] <shiv> can anybody help. Whats wrong with this command? sudo chmod 700 ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/*.*
[08:54] <Digital_Pioneer> TheGateKeeper: I could probably do it in C++, but I don't know enough to manage filenames and fool around with strings that well... ;)
[08:54] <nastas> cryptonic? can you see the partion you want to mount?
[08:55] <beemer> Digital - still working on it - getting close :)
[08:55] <Digital_Pioneer> TheGateKeeper: Seems like I could do it in most any scripting/programming language I wanted, given I knew enough of it. :)
[08:55] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: You're writing in on the spot??
[08:55] <beemer> yeah
[08:55] <beemer> it's good practice :)
[08:55] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: Wow... Thanks, man.
[08:55] <Digital_Pioneer> True.
[08:56] <TheGateKeeper> Digital_Pioneer: true, there are loads of String Manipulation functions like strcmp etc etc in c/c++
[08:56] <nagyv> shiv: try instead option -R and ./ without asterisks
[08:56] <Digital_Pioneer> TheGateKeeper: Yeah, but I'm only learning C++... We haven't even covered arrays yet. LOL
[08:57] <koli> hi all
[08:57] <koli> how do i change my default boot system?
[08:57] <nastas> cryptonic: still there?
[08:57] <cryptonic> well the partition i want to mount is on a sata drive
[08:58] <nastas> and?
[08:58] <nagyv> koli: to what?
[08:58] <teledyn> does anyone know why transers to a usbdrive would be extremely slow?
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> Digital_Pioneer: there you go: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/  no more excuses lol
[08:58] <cryptonic> and the first partition on that drive is already mounted, 95gig partition = system partition
[08:58] <cryptonic> but the second partition does not mount
[08:58] <shiv> nagyv: where do I put the ./
[08:59] <Digital_Pioneer> TheGateKeeper: :)
[08:59] <koli> i use dual boot of kubuntu with xp sp2
[08:59] <koli> how do i make dhe default system to be windows?
[08:59] <beemer> Digital - try this script out on the command line and see if it gives you the right file names:
[08:59] <Digital_Pioneer> TheGateKeeper: C++ is a kinda big language, isn't it? ;)
[08:59] <beemer> export IFS=$'\n';for h in `ls -l Title* | cut -c 49-`; do title=`echo $h | cut -f 1 -d \ `; artist=`echo $h | cut -f 3 -d \ | cut -f 1 -d .`; echo $artist - $title.mp3;done
[08:59] <nastas> the first partition's format is???   ext2?
[09:00] <nagyv> shiv: actually with chmod -R 700 /home/yourdir/somedir/ you will chmod all the files under somedir and its children directories
[09:00] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: What are the params?
[09:00] <cryptonic> its ext3
[09:00] <cryptonic> so is the second
[09:00] <nagyv> koli: in /boot/grub/menu.lst you will find the answer
[09:00] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: I assume I have to call it with some sort of instruction...
[09:00] <DaSkreech> Digital_Pioneer: can't amarok do that?
[09:01] <koli> nagyv
[09:01] <nastas> and the partition you want to mount is fat 32?
[09:01] <beemer> there's no params - just run it from the directory where the mp3's are - it won't do anything yet - just produce a list of filenames
[09:01] <koli> how do i modify it?
[09:01] <beemer> just paste the whole line to the command prompt and hit enter
[09:01] <DaSkreech> TheGateKeeper: No big friend of Freespire?
[09:01] <javax> awwwwwwww no
[09:01] <Digital_Pioneer> DaSkreech: Can it? AmaroK is the reason I need the script in the first place.
[09:01] <TheGateKeeper> Digital_Pioneer: well yes, but it doesn't take that long to get the basics & start being productive
[09:01] <javax> i think apt has stalled while i was upgrading to edgy
[09:01] <shiv> nagyv: I want to make the scripts executable thats all
[09:01] <cryptonic> at first it was fat32 but couldnt get it mounting so i formated it to ext3
[09:01] <javax> oooooh it hasnt thank god
[09:02] <nagyv> koli: open up a konsole, and write the command sudo kate
[09:02] <TheGateKeeper> DaSkreech: NOT Freespire or Linspire
[09:02] <shiv> nagyv: this did not do it sudo chmod -R 700 ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts ./
[09:02] <nastas> you can mount anything
[09:02] <cryptonic> there is a swap partition in between
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Digital_Pioneer: Depending on what version you have It should be able to do that
[09:02] <Digital_Pioneer> TheGateKeeper: cout << "I know the very VERY basic basics already. ;)" << endl;
[09:02] <nastas> i  am mounting an external ntfs hdd
[09:02] <DaSkreech> TheGateKeeper: Why?
[09:02] <Digital_Pioneer> DaSkreech: I have 1.4.4
[09:02] <TheGateKeeper> Digital_Pioneer: :-)
[09:02] <DaSkreech> That should do it :)
[09:03] <nagyv> shiv: sudo chmod -R 700 ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[09:03] <javax> Linspire is a commercial whore
[09:03] <cryptonic> so am i but i cant mount two partitions on the same drive for some odd reason
[09:03] <javax> clawing back the money again after being sued
[09:03] <shiv> nagyv: no luck :(
[09:03] <Digital_Pioneer> DaSkreech: The problem is, Amarok sees it all backwards. It looks at those names, and gets the titles and artists mixed up.
[09:04] <nastas> did you try to add a line in fstab?
[09:04] <DaSkreech> I think you can set that up somewhere :(
[09:04] <nastas> cryptonic: did you try to add a line in fstab?
[09:04] <cryptonic> how do i add a line
[09:04] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: ls: Title*: No such file or directory
[09:04] <nagyv> shiv: is it a network-mounted drive?
[09:04] <steff> duane_: actually i installed opera.. pretty good isn't it ?
[09:04] <cryptonic> nastas: how do i add a line in fstab
[09:05] <nastas> run: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:05] <beemer> oh sorry - change that to *.mp3
[09:05] <shiv> nagyv: no I am just using some iso files that I want to be mounted
[09:05] <dats> hello
[09:05] <beemer> from the part that says Title*
[09:05] <nastas> cryptonic: in  a console :)
[09:05] <javax> any ideas on how to get Logitech MX610 wireless usb mouse working in Kubuntu??? /q
[09:05] <dats> can anybody help my in e-17 compilation ?
[09:05] <nagyv> shiv: aha, so you would like execute the files on your iso, that's it?
[09:06] <shiv> nagyv: ya
[09:06] <cryptonic> nastas: what should i add?
[09:06] <nagyv> shiv: you can not change the mod, because the iso is unwriteable, but you can execute the files on it somehow
[09:07] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: BTW, can you put my full nick (you should be able to just hit tab after a few letters) so I get notified on your messages?
[09:07] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: sure :)
[09:07] <shiv> nagyv:  I am trying to use these scripts http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149963&highlight=bin+cue
[09:07] <nastas> you will see the line with the first partition and you will add almost the same but with the partition you want to mount
[09:07] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: Thanks. :) That helps.
[09:07] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: Did you get the output I gave you?
[09:07] <shiv> nagyv: see reply #3
[09:08] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: yeah - in the first part of the script, change Title* to *.mp3
[09:08] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: and it should run
[09:08] <DaSkreech> Digital_Pioneer: ask in #amarok if there is an option to switch that
[09:08] <DaSkreech> I'm sure there is
[09:08] <Digital_Pioneer> DaSkreech: I've been there before, they said to fix streamripper (that's what's making these files) LOL
[09:09] <Dieguete> hi kubunters
[09:09] <nastas> cryptonic: is there a line like: /dev/hda1  /media/hda1  linux.....???
[09:09] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: OK, it's not failing anymore....
[09:09] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: but.... :)
[09:10] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: Running it in a dir with a file "x - y.mp3" it simply returns "x - 6-11-02.mp3"
[09:10] <cryptonic> # /dev/sda1
[09:10] <cryptonic> UUID=184e2a73-5e0c-4414-b2f5-e97e5272326a /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:10] <cryptonic> then i added
[09:10] <DaSkreech> Digital_Pioneer: Not a bad idea :)
[09:10] <scion> hello all
[09:10] <Digital_Pioneer> DaSkreech: Any ideas on doing that? :)
[09:10] <cryptonic> # /dev/sda3
[09:11] <cryptonic> UUID=184e2a73-5e0c-4414-b2f5-e97e5272326a /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:11] <DaSkreech> C++ :-D
[09:11] <cryptonic> still not showing up in nautilus though
[09:11] <nastas> cryptonic: is sda1 mounting?
[09:11] <nagyv> shiv: are you using nautilus or konqueror as your file manager?
[09:11] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: can you paste like 2 lines from this command (run in your mp3 directory): ls -l *.mp3
[09:12] <Digital_Pioneer> DaSkreech: *Sigh* I _could_ try to hack it... But I still have many files that need a batch rename.
[09:12] <shiv> nagyv: nautilus
[09:12] <cryptonic> what i see in nautilus is filesystem
[09:12] <cryptonic> not sda's
[09:12] <nastas> sda is not mounting?
[09:12] <cryptonic> i see my usb disks too
[09:12] <nastas> but no sda's
[09:12] <cryptonic> nah
[09:13] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: Not sure what you mean?
[09:13] <nastas> try to delete the "#" from the fstab
[09:13] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: at a command prompt, make sure you are in your mp3 path.  then type ls -l *.mp3
[09:13] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: -rw-r--r-- 1 digitalpioneer digitalpioneer 2 2006-11-02 14:04 x - y.mp3
[09:14] <nagyv> shiv: who is the owner of your actual ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts files?
[09:14] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: It's taking the date instead of the name.
[09:14] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: ok
[09:14] <shiv> nagyv: how do I know that? it should be shiv
[09:14] <Foob> anyone here have two monitors set up?
[09:14] <Foob> I have it 'almost' working.. but my smaller screen is acting funkiy
[09:14] <Xzyx987X> hey, how do you set up kde to start automatically at boot? I messed something up in my kubuntu install while installing the beta nvidia drivers and I'm booting to the command line
[09:14] <nastas> cryptonic: ?
[09:14] <cryptonic> that does nothing
[09:15] <shiv> nagyv: I forgot how I did this last time. I think I added a + or sh somewhere
[09:15] <nastas> did you reboot the system?
[09:15] <Foob> the image is 'offset' or something... when I go to click it registers 200px to the right of where the cursor is
[09:15] <nagyv> shiv: (I think you will be right, but anyway), open up konqueror (or nautilus if you prefer :) ), and in the location bar type /home/shiv/.gnome2
[09:15] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: ok - try this - change 49 to 79 in the script (where it says cut -c 49-)
[09:15] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[09:15] <nagyv> shiv: and then navigate to the nautilus-scripts directory
[09:16] <shiv> I did that
[09:16] <shiv> then?
[09:16] <Digital_Pioneer> That gives no output.
[09:16] <dhq> fdoving: when i run any moc=vie i can hear the audio but i get a blank screen why is that i guess i have all the codec installed
[09:16] <nastas> cryptonic: ?
[09:16] <cryptonic> didnt reboot
[09:16] <nagyv> shiv: right, and select something like properties, and search the tabs for an owner, probably you will be able to change the permissions here file-by-file too
[09:16] <Foob> Xzyx987X:  does your gui start up when you execute: kdm
[09:16] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: No output, and my file is still x - y instead of y - x.
[09:16] <cryptonic> should i ?
[09:17] <fdoving> dhq: what player?
[09:17] <nastas> yep
[09:17] <cryptonic> cool
[09:17] <cryptonic> see ya in a sec
[09:17] <nastas> try
[09:17] <Xzyx987X> didn't try it, x would have to be stated first though, right?
[09:17] <nastas> ok
[09:17] <dhq> fdoving: all the players i hav
[09:17] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: shoot - ooops - change it to 63 actually - man did I miscount
[09:17] <fdoving> dhq: do you have mplayer installed?
[09:17] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: LOL
[09:18] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: Wonderful. It said y - x.mp3... But the problem remains: My file is still x - y.mp3.
[09:18] <Digital_Pioneer> ;)
[09:18] <Xzyx987X> there was an erroneous line in x's log...
[09:18] <Xzyx987X> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[09:19] <Xzyx987X> that appeared sveral times
[09:19] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: right :) ok - where it says (near the end) echo $artist - $title.mp3; change that to cp $h $artist\ \-\ $title.mp3
[09:19] <beemer> ok going afk a few min
[09:19] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: OK, one sec.
[09:21] <nastas> cryptonic: ?
[09:21] <cryptonic> nastas: didnt work
[09:21] <nastas> ok
[09:21] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: Beautiful.
[09:21] <Foob> Xzyx987X: I don't think so... I changed my runlevel 2 so that it didn't load the gui and then I could test my setup by doing a: /etc/init.d/kdm start|stop
[09:21] <morghanphoenix> LjL should be happy, I'm giving firefox another chance.
[09:22] <Foob> Xzyx987X: I had that too... they put in the device stanza for some wacky input peripherals
[09:22] <LjL> me? happy? i use konqueror
[09:22] <morghanphoenix> As do I, usually, but not everything renders right in konq for me.
[09:23] <Xzyx987X> if I wanted to do a non-gui bootup I'd just use recovery mode
[09:23] <Xzyx987X> I like my default login to have a gui :P
[09:23] <hazard> is there any way to make xwindows change the screen resolution on a temporary basis without root access?
[09:23] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: Sorry, but now it says "cp: invalid option --"
[09:23] <morghanphoenix> But if I remember corretly it was you who was anti-closed source
[09:23] <hazard> (so I can make starcraft run full screen?)
[09:23] <LjL> hazard: yes, ctrl/alt/+ and ctrl/alt/-, though for some reason (well, there's a bug filed) that doesn't work on my edgy
[09:23] <Foob> Xzyx987X: my default runlevel is still 5... or gui'ed but if I want to debug I just change my inittab to boot to runlevel 2
[09:24] <Foob> I also made sure that rc2 had just the bare minimum of services and whatnot
[09:24] <hazard> Hrm...
[09:24] <Foob> but I digress...
[09:24] <Xzyx987X> wait, where is the inittab file supposed to be located again?
[09:25] <hazard> LjL that dosen't work
[09:25] <Foob> it's in etc/inittab
[09:25] <zorgluuu>  in /etc/inittab
[09:25] <hazard> Could it be because I only have one resolution configured?
[09:25] <fdoving> edgy doesn't have a inittab.
[09:25] <zorgluuu> yes there :)
[09:25] <Foob> it doesn't?
[09:25] <fdoving> and the default runlevel is not 5, it's 2.
[09:25] <Foob> not if you change it :)
[09:25] <fdoving> it's configured in /etc/event.d/
[09:25] <zorgluuu> oh btw is the edgy boot significantly faster than dapper one ?
[09:25] <maelcum> hi! short question: are there any binaries available of kopete with the icq protocol support fixed?
[09:25] <fdoving> if you upgraded to edgy from dapper, the /etc/inittab settings will be preserved.
[09:25] <Foob> I think it's a good thing to have different running states
[09:25] <LjL> hazard: perhaps it could be because you're on edgy, as i said
[09:26] <hazard> I'm not.
[09:26] <hazard> I'm using Dapper
[09:26] <LjL> hazard: then yes, it's because you only have one resolution configured.
[09:26] <fdoving> maelcum: yes, http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/
[09:26] <hazard> :P
[09:26] <hazard> How do I fix that?
[09:26] <maelcum> fdoving: thx, w00t!
[09:26] <hazard> (I know I can do resolutions less than 1024x768?
[09:27] <Xzyx987X> lol, I think I found the problem. my inittab file is gone
[09:27] <Xzyx987X> dunno how that happened
[09:27] <fdoving> Xzyx987X: are you on edgy?
[09:27] <hazard> Mutant cheese bunnies.
[09:27] <hazard> Only logical conclusion.
[09:27] <Xzyx987X> yes
[09:27] <fdoving> Xzyx987X: then you shouldn't have a inittab file unless you upgraded from dapper
[09:27] <Xzyx987X> oh
[09:27] <fdoving> Xzyx987X: everything is configured in /etc/event.d/ now.
[09:27] <Xzyx987X> ok, then what do I have?
[09:27] <LjL> hazard: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and select more resolutions
[09:28] <zorgluuu> q. is the edgy boot significantly faster than dapper one ?
[09:28] <hazard> Okies
[09:28] <LjL> zorgluuu: yes
[09:28] <Xzyx987X> ok, I'll look there for errouneos settings...
[09:28] <fdoving> Xzyx987X: /etc/event.d/rc-default configures the default runlevel.
[09:28] <fdoving> Xzyx987X: if that's what you're looking for..
[09:28] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: BTW, should be cut -c 64. ;)
[09:28] <nagyv> will the edgy boot be backported to dapper?
[09:29] <Foob> ... yeah - that's probably not what he's looking for.. I was just commenting on how I could 'start' the gui'ing by starting up kdm from the command line.
[09:29] <fdoving> nagyv: my guess would be, no.
[09:29] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: i'll check in a bit but I have to go to a meeting for 30-45 min
[09:29] <Foob> if he finds out why that isn't working then it'll probably start up automagically
[09:29] <JanK> what resolution/frequency is the kubuntu loading screen? (my tft says "out of oporating range") before the kdm-login appears and shortly after grub has finished.
[09:29] <beemer> Digital_Pioneer: sorry I couldn't get it going yet
[09:29] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: OK, NP.
[09:29] <nagyv> I mean, I have heard a couple of bad things about edgy, so affraid of upgrading, but everyone says that the boot is much better.
[09:29] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: I'm almost always on #uira if I'm not here.
[09:30] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: And I'm not here much. ;)
[09:30] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: I'll keep fooling with it, see if I can fix it. Thanks man.
[09:30] <zorgluuu> nagyv: you can wait a few month until it stabilize a bit
[09:30] <Xzyx987X> ok... the file is there but the runlevel is 5...
[09:30] <Xzyx987X> that should be normal, right?
[09:30] <Foob> Xzyx987X:  yeah that's fine.
[09:30] <fdoving> JanK: you can configure that yourself. don't know about the defaults. take a look at /etc/usplash.conf
[09:30] <flavio> does anybody know where to find the kubuntu system settings app source code? help me please!
[09:31] <Xzyx987X> so that's not the problem then...
[09:31] <hazard> oh, krud, now I'll have to remember how to fix dmps.
[09:31] <Foob> Xzyx987X: what happens when you try and start kdm:  /etc/init.d/kdm start
[09:31] <fdoving> flavio: in konsole, run 'apt-get source kde-systemsettings'
[09:31] <Xzyx987X> I didn't try... ok, back in 5 minutes I guess :P
[09:32] <flavio> fdoving: thank you! i'll try it
[09:33] <nagyv> zorgluuu: but in a few months already Feisty Fawn will be the recent one :)
[09:33] <zorgluuu> nagyv: yep but new bug will comes :)
[09:34] <nagyv> flavio: try in irc.kde.org #kde
[09:34] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: I got it!
[09:35] <JanK> how to setup the resolution and frequeny of the Kubuntu loading screen, which appears after grub and before the login? (it seems to be higher than 1200x1024 or 60hz)
[09:35] <zorgluuu> JanK: this is called the usplash
[09:35] <zorgluuu> !usplash
[09:35] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: I took out the escape chars (\) and put the cp directives in quotes. Then, I changed cp to mv (only need one, with the right name!) and it works!!! :D
[09:35] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:35] <flavio> nagyv: i'm trying what fdoving suggested
[09:35] <zorgluuu> JanK: i dunno if the page has the info you are looking for
[09:36] <flavio> nagyv: i also think this is kubuntu specific
[09:36] <JanK> im going to look there thank you :)
[09:36] <timinphx1> Hi all, just jumped in,sorry if redundant. Is anyone having problems after todays updates? My X-server isn't booting when I get it done manually, I have no Kicker
[09:37] <nagyv> flavio: I agree, but since seemingly we can (could) not help you, you can not loose with it ;)
[09:37] <LjL> i haven't even seen any updates today :o)
[09:38] <timinphx1> I had 7 or 8
[09:39] <trex_> what is the spanish channel?
[09:39] <fdoving> !es
[09:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:39] <Digital_Pioneer> beemer: Well, when I actually put it in the real deal... Not so lucky. If you haven't already gone, have fun at your meeting. :)
[09:41] <Xzyx987X> ok, if I start kdm right after logging in it says it's already started
[09:41] <DaSkreech> Is there a power outage in Texas or something?
[09:41] <Xzyx987X> if I try to restart it the system locks up
[09:43] <Xzyx987X> I really wish linux's gui archetecture was simplified a bit...
[09:43] <flavio> fdoving: mission complete! thank you so much!
[09:43] <Xzyx987X> I don't see what kde couldn't just interface with linix directly rather that going through x
[09:44] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: once you understand whats going on you won't feel that way
[09:44] <Xzyx987X> I don't really understand why you need x in the first place
[09:44] <Xzyx987X> linux should handle the drivers, and the window manager should handle the drawing
[09:45] <Xzyx987X> what else do you need?
[09:45] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: drawing to what?
[09:45] <Xzyx987X> the screen via the driver interface
[09:45] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: you're missing a few layers there. :)
[09:45] <Xzyx987X> like?
[09:46] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: If you do that, then all your apps need to be written for that window manager
[09:46] <Xzyx987X> naw, wxWidgets style stuff gets around that
[09:46] <TheGateKeeper> Xzyx987X: fairly obvious you don't understand X, it has a client server achitecture there is more too it than just running a desktop pc
[09:46] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: and the window manager would need to know how to draw very primitive things and become a bloated mess.
[09:47] <Xzyx987X> only if it was poorly designed...
[09:48] <hazard> Gah!
[09:48] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: you need to do some reading. :)
[09:48] <Xzyx987X> you would obviously implement the primitive drawing rutines in a sublibrary...
[09:48] <hazard> the reconfigurator for x11.conf borked up
[09:48] <hazard> there, now I'm back on my old file.
[09:48] <hazard> what color mode is 256colors?
[09:48] <bipolar> hazard: umm... 16bit?
[09:48] <bipolar> no, 8
[09:49] <Xzyx987X> all I know is, the whole linux scence in general is too dependant on configuration
[09:49] <Xzyx987X> all the independant apps being put in charge of vital os tasks is just asking for trouble
[09:49] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: all I know is, the whole car manufatuing scene is too dependant on mechanics
[09:49] <timinphx1> there always Microsoft!!  ha ha ha
[09:50] <nnn0> M$ is bankrupt next year
[09:50] <hazard> Which is a giant mess of regestry dependency.
[09:50] <Xzyx987X> ...I started using linux so I could stay away from vista...
[09:50] <Xzyx987X> but as it turns out, linux has it's own problems...
[09:50] <hazard> There is no PERFECT os.
[09:50] <nnn0> plan9
[09:50] <timinphx1> It was a joke 8-)
[09:50] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: trust me, once you understand how it works, and *why* it's built that way, you will feel much better about it.
[09:50] <BluesKaj> there is no magic bullet '
[09:51] <bipolar> theres more then one way to skin a cat... er... or something.
[09:51] <hazard> What do the 'virtual' lines mean in the "Display" subsections in Xorg.conf mean?
[09:51] <bipolar> hazard: you can have a desktop thats bigger then the actual display size
[09:51] <bipolar> hazard: not all that useful any more
[09:52] <hazard> Yea.
[09:52] <Xzyx987X> look, all I'm saying, is if linux ever wants to crack the desktop market they've got to make it harder to keep it from crashing and burning
[09:52] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: those kinds of things are being worked on all the time. it keeps getting better.
[09:52] <hazard> Is there a way to restart Xwindows without logging out (and having to close everything?)
[09:52] <Xzyx987X> and eliminated some of the excess of components would definately help that
[09:53] <nnn0> you could always run QNX :)
[09:53] <hazard> Or headless Debian.
[09:53] <bipolar> hazard: not really. all the apps are children of the XServer, so to speak.
[09:53] <hazard> well, I'll be back then
[09:53] <timinphx1> I think ubuntu has made great stides in that direction
[09:53] <Xzyx987X> I mean, it's no wonder ms still has the lead with the state of the competition
[09:53] <TheGateKeeper> Xzyx987X: use a more stable distro then, hell you have over 300 to choose from...
[09:54] <Xzyx987X> I assume there would be the same problem all around
[09:54] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: heh... I guess you've never seen what a windows machine does if it's display drivers fubar
[09:54] <nnn0> QNX is like nuclear reactor kind of OS :)
[09:55] <Xzyx987X> that being, one tiny mistake in a configuration file in the most obscure place, and you won't be able to fix it without hours of sifting through documentation
[09:55] <timinphx1> Windows registry is way worse
[09:55] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: thats why you back up your config file before changing it.
[09:55] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: then all you have to do is copy the original version back
[09:55] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: you can't do that in windows.
[09:55] <Xzyx987X> even then, what just happened to me with losing the kde login screen had nothing to do with a configuration file...
[09:56] <Xzyx987X> and yes you can...
[09:56] <BluesKaj> Xzyx987X, I used several linux disros including suse , debian a, mandriva etc and so far Kubuntu is the best in terms of hardware recogintion and useability , which to me is the most important aspect of anOS
[09:56] <Xzyx987X> it hapened when I was installing a driver package...
[09:56] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: how? backing up the whole registry?
[09:56] <TheGateKeeper> Xzyx987X: why are you trolling ?
[09:56] <DaSkreech> TheGateKeeper: he's expressing right now
[09:56] <timinphx1> I agree BluesKay!
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> DaSkreech: I have doubts about that...
[09:57] <Xzyx987X> not intentionally trolling, just ended up that way...
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Xzyx987X: the fact is that X is very capable and it needs a large deal of flexibilty
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Xzyx987X: As such it has a hefty configuration file
[09:58] <bipolar> To be honest, the Xorg.conf file doesn't need much in it. Anymore X autoconfigs itself for the most part
[09:58] <Xzyx987X> the configuration file isn't the problem, the problem is it doesn't automatically handle error
[09:58] <Xzyx987X> s
[09:58] <DaSkreech> Xzyx987X: It can probably use some better management for people who need it to do simple thngs but try and accept it for what it is
[09:58] <Xzyx987X> which is a must for and component of that importance to the system imo
[09:58] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: it sounds like the problem in your case is not X, but rather KDM
[09:58] <DaSkreech> Xzyx987X: I don't think that X should do that for the scenario you are painting
[09:59] <TheGateKeeper> Xzyx987X: what exactly is the problem & how did you get there?
[09:59] <Xzyx987X> either way, if the components were integated I bet the source of the problem would be easier to track down
[09:59] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: if KDM is already running, starting it again will probbly start another X server on another virtual terminal.
[09:59] <DaSkreech> but if you really think that it's a problem bring it up with the people who make X and if they listen to your explanation at least pay them the courtesy of listening to thiers :)
[09:59] <Xzyx987X> kubuntu quit booting to the kde login screen basically
[09:59] <hazard> Ok, how do I get X to change resolutions?
[10:00] <Xzyx987X> after installing the beta nvidia drivers
[10:00] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: it doesn't work that way. when you integrate too many things together, it becomes HARDER to track problems down.
[10:00] <hazard> I put a second resolution entry in xorg.conf, but I can't seem to change to it.
[10:00] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: um.... beta?
[10:00] <Xzyx987X> ...well the drivers run fine
[10:00] <Xzyx987X> I'm running them right not
[10:00] <Xzyx987X> *now
[10:00] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: does X start?
[10:00] <TheGateKeeper> Xzyx987X: I see linux is crap because you have installed beta drivers
[10:00] <Xzyx987X> I'm in kde right now
[10:01] <DaSkreech> TheGateKeeper: Stop trolling :)
[10:01] <TheGateKeeper> DaSkreech: I rest my case ^^^^
[10:01] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: er... please be specific. what is not working?
[10:01] <DaSkreech> TheGateKeeper: Heehee
[10:01] <hazard> Problem:
[10:01] <DaSkreech> Solution:
[10:01] <Xzyx987X> I'm not saying it's crap, I'm syaing a good os would not allow itself to get that screwed up
[10:01] <hazard> How do I have xserver change resoltuions and color depths?
[10:01] <hazard> from say, the command line?
[10:01] <DaSkreech> Xzyx987X: Ah! I think I see the problem
[10:02] <Xzyx987X> do tell
[10:02] <bipolar> hazard: well, you can check out the xrandr command.
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Xzyx987X: X is not an OS
[10:02] <hazard> Oh, so a GOOD OS can't do anything you want...
[10:02] <DaSkreech> It's program
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Like ls or find or Firefox
[10:02] <hazard> checking bipolar
[10:02] <DaSkreech> markowka: Hiya
[10:02] <Xzyx987X> no kidding, but it has become a vital os component nonetheless
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Xzyx987X: No it hasn't
[10:02] <Xzyx987X> which is part of the problem really
[10:02] <DaSkreech> It's vital to you
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Much like how Firefox is vital to me
[10:03] <Xzyx987X> well, it's vital to anyone who wants a gui...
[10:03] <DaSkreech> and if Firefox gets broken I get steamed
[10:03] <DaSkreech> but it's just a program
[10:03] <hazard> I actually don't like xwindows much it eatsup too much memory ( I perfer systems with no GUI)
[10:03] <timinphx1> is anyone having a problem with x not starting during boot...I just started having that issue?
[10:03] <nnn0> CLI owns
[10:03] <TheGateKeeper> Xzyx987X: go and install Sabayon, comes with nvidia drivers pre-installed
[10:03] <DaSkreech> Xzyx987X: two things. One learn how to use CLI enough to fix X and you will get a better appreciation of it
[10:04] <DaSkreech> Xzyx987X: And look at how X works and see how to make it simpler for people to use
[10:04] <Xzyx987X> I've fixed it several times before, wasting hourse of my life I will never get back...
[10:04] <hazard> Nope, xrandr confuses me.
[10:04] <DaSkreech> But it is just a program and one that relies on a few other also trepid programs
[10:04] <Xzyx987X> but as for this problem, I can't even find the source
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Like your beta drivers
[10:05] <hazard> I'm confused. Instead of egging on the troll, how about some help?
[10:05] <Xzyx987X> I gurentee you if I uninstalled them it wouldn't go away
[10:05] <Xzyx987X> the beta drivers actually work better once they're running than the regular ones
[10:06] <timinphx1> that wouldn't be as interesting
[10:06] <nnn0> there is a textbased gui though - don'tremember it's name
[10:06] <Xzyx987X> I think the problem was I installed the from a standalone rather that a package...
[10:06] <DaSkreech> Ok so just to establish You don't actually need any help right now?
[10:06] <hazard> I do!!
[10:06] <Xzyx987X> I do need help, I want kde's loging screen to start when I boot again
[10:06] <Xzyx987X> is that too much to ask?
[10:06] <hazard> Yes.
[10:07] <timinphx1> Me too!!
[10:07] <timinphx1> Xzyx987X: What was your initial issue?
[10:09] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: what happens now when you boot?
[10:10] <Random_Transit> #join mpeg4
[10:10] <Random_Transit> err
[10:10] <Random_Transit> can anyone tell me why i can't edit song info for m4a files??
[10:12] <DaSkreech> Amarok?
[10:13] <DaSkreech> timinphx1, bipolar: I'm helping in PM
[10:13] <bipolar> DaSkreech: cool
[10:14] <timinphx1> Don't forget poor hazard
[10:14] <hazard> Yea.
[10:14] <hazard> Don't forget me.
[10:15] <hazard> timing: 640x480@75 Hz (VESA) <- I need a model line for that for my x11 conf file I think.
[10:15] <nickste> Man, the only thing stopping me from fully using kubuntu is lack of flash support in 64bit :(
[10:16] <DaSkreech> ~/.xsession-errors is appeneded to at the top or bottom?
[10:16] <bipolar> hazard: what are you displaying on that uses such a low res?
[10:16] <Random_Transit> can anyone help me?
[10:16] <hazard> Nothing, but I want to be able to swtich resolutions
[10:17] <hazard> which I can't.
[10:17] <Random_Transit> i'm just wondering why i can't edit song info for m4a files??
[10:17] <hazard> since only 1024x768 is configured.
[10:17] <hazard> Random_Transit: from itunes?
[10:17] <Random_Transit> no
[10:17] <hazard> IK dunno then.
[10:17] <bipolar> hazard: ahh... ok.
[10:18] <bipolar> hazard: what color depth are you using? 32bit I'd guess..
[10:19] <DaSkreech> Random_Transit: From Amarok?
[10:19] <hazard> actuallyk, I want the 640x480 to be 256 colors
[10:19] <Random_Transit> yes
[10:19] <bipolar> hazard: hmm... I wonder how X handles switching color depths
[10:19] <hazard> but I'd go for 'working switching' for starters
[10:19] <DaSkreech> Random_Transit: I think that they are still adding in support what version are you running?
[10:19] <hazard> :)
[10:19] <bipolar> hazard: make a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to start :)
[10:19] <Random_Transit> DaSkreech, 1.4.3
[10:20] <hazard> I did.
[10:20] <hazard> I've also created display subsections in my conf file for "640x480@75" in my conf file
[10:21] <hazard> wow, I must be tired.
[10:21] <bipolar> hazard: I don't think you need to do that.
[10:21] <hazard> well, nothing has exploded, and it seemed like a good place to start.
[10:21] <bipolar> hazard: i'll message you....
[10:21] <hazard> I don't have a registered nick if that matters.
[10:22] <nickste> What is a better msn alternative to kopete?
[10:23] <DaSkreech> amsn
[10:23] <Random_Transit> yeah
[10:23] <Random_Transit> or kmess
[10:23] <nickste> ta
[10:23] <nickste> aaahhhh! Beryl is sooo awesome!
[10:23] <Random_Transit> !beryl
[10:23] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[10:23] <Random_Transit> hmm
[10:23] <hazard> bipolar: I've only got one for 1024x768
[10:24] <bipolar> hazard: so add to it. :)
[10:24] <hazard> well, that's what I did.
[10:24] <hazard> and in the same form.
[10:25] <hazard> but I still can't change.
[10:25] <bipolar> hazard: you would want something like: Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[10:25] <bipolar> hazard: then you need to restart X to accept the config
[10:25] <bipolar> hazard: also, what is your monitor? is it an LCD?
[10:25] <hazard> yes
[10:25] <hazard> a sony one
[10:26] <hazard> what about the section under monitor with the model line?
[10:26] <bipolar> hazard: is it capible of using non-native resolutions?
[10:26] <bthibault> hi, where can i ask a question about printing (cups)
[10:26] <hazard> that still only says "1024x768"
[10:26] <apokryphos> bthibault: #ubuntu is better
[10:26] <bipolar> hazard: model lines?
[10:26] <hazard> I have no idea, all I want are 1024x768 & 640x480SVGA which it supports (as its what the bios uses)
[10:27] <bthibault> thanks
[10:27] <hazard> in the monitor section
[10:27] <caribou7> Are there instructions anywhere for installing XMMS plugins that are not in the Kubuntu repositories?  I specifically would like to install the MPlayer Input Plugin.
[10:27] <bipolar> hazard: comment out that line.
[10:27] <apokryphos> caribou7: xmms? Geh
[10:27] <hazard> comments are # right?
[10:27] <bipolar> hazard: modern versions of X using modern hardware do not need them.
[10:27] <bipolar> hazard: it will be autodetected.
[10:28] <bipolar> hazard: yes, #
[10:28] <Mr_Pan> how can delete a failed packet (xfonts.intl.european) from apt-upgrade ?
[10:28] <caribou7> apokryphos: Do I make comments about your choice of players?  XMMS has some plugins I want to use.
[10:28] <hazard> so, for now I made my 'modes' line iunder the display subsection "1024x768@60""640x480@75"
[10:29] <apokryphos> caribou7: #ubuntu is better
[10:29] <hazard> can I comment out the virtual ine?
[10:29] <bipolar> hazard: I'd remove the "@xx" from the end.
[10:29] <bipolar> hazard: yes. comment out the virtual line
[10:29] <caribou7> Thanks.
[10:29] <hazard> anything else?
[10:30] <bipolar> hazard: well, if you paste your config file into the query I sent you mine in, I'll look it over to be sure.
[10:30] <hazard> I can't, non-regiserted nicks can't send messages.
[10:30] <bipolar> gah....
[10:30] <hazard> bipolar: ^^
[10:31] <bipolar> hazard: well, register. :)
[10:31] <hazard> I'd just forget the password (and someone else already has this nick reged I think)
[10:31] <timinphx1> how/where does one register?
[10:31] <bipolar> hazard: try pastebin....
[10:31] <hazard> how do you /join again?
[10:32] <bipolar> hazard: /join #channelname
[10:32] <hazard> Oh, there we go.
[10:32] <hazard> you there/here/wherver?
[10:33] <bipolar> hazard: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org << paste your config file there
[10:33] <bipolar> hazard: to get to this channel, /join #kubuntu
[10:33] <hazard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29925/
[10:34] <flaccid> don't you love it when you get to work and go to use net bank to get money for coffee and the bank's site is down
[10:35] <bipolar> hazard: that looks clean. give it a shot
[10:35] <hazard> should I just restart or is there some easier way to restart X?
[10:36] <trispace> hazard: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:36] <bipolar> hazard: you can logout, then hit ctrl+alt+backspace. or go to a terminal outside X, and "/etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[10:37] <bipolar> ctrl+alt+backspace kills X instantly... so it's better to logout first. I hope you can read this... :P
[10:37] <trispace> bipolar: lol :)
[10:38] <caribou7> No, #ubuntu isn't better.  :(
[10:38] <timinphx1> well, you just answered a small part of my question/problem...thanks
[10:38] <bipolar> hey! he's back
[10:38] <bipolar> hazard: how's it look now?
[10:38] <hazard> Umm.. the same.
[10:39] <hazard> How'd I go about changing the resolution?
[10:39] <bipolar> hazard: hmmm...
[10:39] <bipolar> hazard: oh!
[10:39] <hazard> ctrl-alt-+ doesn't do anything
[10:39] <bipolar> hazard: run xrandr in a term and tell me what it says is available?
[10:40] <hazard> *0   1024 x 768    ( 302mm x 232mm )  *60
[10:40] <hazard>  1    512 x 384
[10:40] <hazard> oops
[10:40] <hazard> , I wanted to take some of those lines out
[10:40] <bipolar> 512x384.... weird
[10:40] <hazard> yea, that's what I got it to do last time.
[10:40] <hazard> I didn't get it to actually switch, but it said that.
[10:41] <bipolar> hazard: yeah. it won't switch unless you tell it to. let me give you a gui app to do it....
[10:41] <hazard> the system display settings are clueless about it to.
[10:42] <hazard> I'm running dapper still if that makes a diffrence
[10:43] <hazard> I'm fine with the command line (unless the commands are carcenegenicly long)
[10:43] <timinphx1> lol!
[10:43] <hazard> ?
[10:43] <DaSkreech> timinphx1, bipolar: I'm gone See if you can help Xzyx987X anymore
[10:43] <Xzyx987X> thatks for the help
[10:44] <Xzyx987X> I gotta restart before anything else
[10:44] <bipolar> I don't know what I can do.  I've had no problems with it though
[10:46] <bipolar> hazard: hmmm.... I don't know what to do at this point. let me finish this vpn install and I'll look at it again.
[10:46] <LjL> !language | duane_
[10:46] <ubotu> duane_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:46] <hazard> bipolar: thanks for the help, but I've got to run to a class, perhaps later.
[10:47] <Xzyx987X> ah, it's a shell based irc client
[10:47] <bipolar> hazard: ok
[10:47] <Xzyx987X> I'll stick to xchat for now :P
[10:47] <duane_> sorry :(
[10:47] <timinphx1> duane: it's still beta, but haven't heard of any problems
[10:47] <hazard> later all
[10:48] <timinphx1> me too!
[10:49] <duane_> timinphx1: have you used it?
[10:54] <mariusz> k....
[10:54] <mariusz> podalby mi ktos jeszcze raz pl?
[10:55] <emanuele_> salve
[10:57] <firegirl> have any of you ever had problems with sound card configurations?
[10:57] <wa9no> hi, anyone knows how to unpack exe file ? (i need some win .inf and .sys for my wifi card)
[10:57] <canine_kouji> greaatt..
[10:57] <omicron> wa9no: try wine
[10:58] <canine_kouji> now Novell has deep relations with gnome, I know exactly what they're referring to by compatible technologies, they're talking about mono
[10:58] <canine_kouji> mono is a stinking heap of "Not Implemented" Crap :/
[10:58] <Dink> and Novell is joining up with M$
[10:58] <mariusz> pl pl?
[10:58] <MetaMorfoziS> can i oreder by package sizes in adept?
[10:58] <Dink> !pl
[10:58] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:58] <canine_kouji> Dink: I don't know what this will do to GNOME  :/
[10:59] <mariusz> dzieki
[10:59] <canine_kouji> Dink: This isn't good :(
[10:59] <Dink> honestly no idea
[10:59] <Dink> mariusz, zyous zwelcomes
[10:59] <anna> #ubuntu
[11:00] <Dink> and really i use kde so :P
[11:02] <wa9no> omicron: ive heared something that unzip can do the job (unpack exe)
[11:03] <omicron> wa9no: if it is an selfextracting zip file calle bla.exe i think: unzip bla.exe should work..
[11:04] <omicron> wa9no: if not just try: wine bla.exe worked for me several times
[11:04] <fdoving> wa9no: you can also try 'cabextract' (in universe)
[11:07] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi
[11:08] <FJ_Sanchez> I've a problem when plug in a usbdisk
[11:08] <FJ_Sanchez> I get the KDE popup and if I choose to open it mount the unit, but now the disk doesn't have the name it had before upgrading to Edgy
[11:08] <FJ_Sanchez> any help?
[11:11] <anna> hello
[11:15] <martin__> hiho
[11:15] <martin__> hello world
[11:16] <_tsdgeos> hi
[11:16] <jmichaelx> does anyone know of an edgy repo that contains ralink wireless drivers (rt2***)?
[11:16] <Pupeno> I have a monitor and a TV connected to a computer with a SiS card. I see the same thing in the TV as in the monitor, but if I run mplayer, I see a blue rectangle in the TV where in the monitor I see the video. Xine shows the video in both. Any idea how to make mplayer show the video in both or on the TV ?
[11:17] <jmichaelx> !ralink
[11:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:17] <_tsdgeos> Pupeno: it's one of the overlay options afair
[11:18] <cpk1> I seem to hava a java error trying to use youtube with konquerer, are there any known problems?
[11:18] <bipolar> ok... for future referance... *Upgrading* from the edgy CD seems to only work with the *Alternitive* CD, not the live CD.
[11:18] <trappist> cpk1: you mean javascript?
[11:18] <cpk1> trappist: yes, i was too lazy to type it all out =P
[11:19] <bipolar> apt can't find the package repository on the live CD
[11:19] <trappist> cpk1: it's an important distinction - they're two totally different things, and youtube doesn't use any java
[11:19] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: do you have (or know of) an edgy repo with ralink drivers?
[11:20] <cpk1> trappist: well considering that if i try the same page in FF youtube tells me that I might have javascript turned off I am pretty sure it does =)
[11:20] <jmichaelx> !rt2570
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt2570 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <trappist> cpk1: still has nothing to do with java.  still a javascript error.  just wanted you to know that to avoid confusion, you need to distinguish between java and javascript.
[11:29] <manchicken> Anybody know where I can score some 1440x900 wps?
[11:31] <jhutchins_wk> !mp3
[11:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:39] <jonathan__> hi
[11:40] <jonathan__> i can't play videos flv helpme!!!!!
[11:41] <Xzyx987X> damnit, I still can't boot to the kde login screen, even though I fixed every problem I could find
[11:43] <fignew> what type of screen are you getting?
[11:43] <Xzyx987X> command prompt
[11:44] <Xzyx987X> I can start kde via startx, but that's the only way
[11:44] <fignew> try
[11:44] <fignew> sudo /etc/ini.d/kdm restart
[11:44] <fignew> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:45] <FJ_Sanchez> I have one question, before to upgrade to Edgy in Desktop properties --> Appareance --> Icon devices I could check an option for Unmounted removable devices but this option doesn't apperar now
[11:45] <FJ_Sanchez> Any idea?
[11:47] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: what do you get instead of the kde boot screen?
[11:48] <Xzyx987X> showed the splash screen for a minute, then froze on a creen with a flashing charot
[11:48] <bipolar> oh, nm
[11:48] <FJ_Sanchez> I have one question, before to upgrade to Edgy in Desktop properties --> Appareance --> Icon devices I could check an option for Unmounted removable devices but this option doesn't apperar now
[11:48] <Xzyx987X> what is that script of configure xorg again?
[11:48] <Xzyx987X> *to
[11:48] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: reboot, at the command line, login as your normal user. Run "ps aux > ps.log" then startx.
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> FJ_Sanchez: have you tried using kcontrol to find what you are looking for?
[11:49] <bipolar> Xzyx987X: then come pack here. paste the ps.log file to pastebin so we can look at it.
[11:49] <Xzyx987X> ok, but what is the command to configure x quick?
[11:49] <bipolar> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:49] <bipolar> I think....
[11:49] <Bizzy> hey
[11:49] <Bizzy> ok, so, if i install kubuntu over 3 partitions /boot swap and / , as primary partitions 0 1 and 2, to take up 120 or so gb then have primary part 3 as another 120gb would i be able to run windows xp from that, if my bios doesnt like booting past 2gb ?
[11:51] <humanizer> Hi there!
[11:52] <LeeJunFan> Bizzy: it should, the bios will hand off control to grub by then.
[11:53] <Bizzy> so, stick grub in mbr and have boot as first part, and around 50mb, and use grub to chainload xp?
[11:54] <Furesho> if a linux distro can't handle -- let's say -- debian packages, is there a way you could make said distro handle deb packages?
[11:55] <LeeJunFan> Bizzy: yeah, as long as grub is your bootloader it really shouldn't matter if the bios doesn't like 2gB, grub will be within that first 2G.
[11:56] <manchicken> Furesho: You could always install dpkg and then just extract the packages.
[11:56] <manchicken> Furesho: That'd be a dirty hack though.
[11:58] <Xzyx987X> here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29928/
[11:58] <Hawkwind> Furesho: Smartpm is supposed to be capable of installing different package types on different OS's
[11:59] <Furesho> hmmmm........ Smartpm, ehhh?
[11:59] <Furesho> i'll look into smartpm first, then.
[11:59] <Furesho> thx to ya both ^__^
[12:00] <FJ_Sanchez> TheGateKeeper: I don't understand where can I found this there
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> FJ_Sanchez: you won't find it on the menu, do Run Command... kcontrol
[12:01] <Xzyx987X> damnit, he quit without reading it...
[12:01] <Xzyx987X> anyone else wanna take a crack at this?
[12:02] <Xzyx987X> kubuntu is booting to the comand prompt after a botched audio driver install
[12:02] <Hawkwind> Xzyx987X: You wanting to boot to your normal KDM ?
[12:02] <Xzyx987X> yup
[12:02] <ubuntu_> hallo
[12:03] <FJ_Sanchez> Nothing there
[12:03] <Hawkwind> Xzyx987X: sudo update-rc.d kdm defaults
[12:03] <ubuntu_> kann man bei kubuntu die internet verbindung freigeben?
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> FJ_Sanchez: what you running ?
[12:03] <Xzyx987X> System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist.
[12:03] <FJ_Sanchez> what?
[12:04] <ubuntu_> german
[12:04] <ubuntu_> ???
[12:04] <Hawkwind> !de
[12:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:04] <FJ_Sanchez> I only want to view my unmounted removable device icons on Desktop like I had in Dapper
[12:04] <FJ_Sanchez> Now I don't see this option in Desktop properties
[12:04] <Xzyx987X> so uh... does the message "System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist." mean it didn't work?
[12:04] <FJ_Sanchez> I can see them when are mounted, but doesn't before
[12:05] <TheGateKeeper> FJ_Sanchez: and kcontrol in edgy is not installed ??
[12:05] <FJ_Sanchez> It's
[12:05] <FJ_Sanchez> But nothing usesful there
[12:05] <Hawkwind> Xzyx987X: Not sure.  That command should set things back to normal and let you boot to KDM
[12:05] <Xzyx987X> I'll try to delete it and run the command again...
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper> FJ_Sanchez: konqueror --> storrage media ??
[12:06] <Ropechoborra> !webcam
[12:06] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper> !usb
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <FJ_Sanchez> I only see cdrom0 sdb2 (i dunno what is this) and my windows partition
[12:07] <Mater> FJ_Sanchez, are you sure you cant change that in configure desktop?
[12:07] <FJ_Sanchez> But I cannot see my umounted removable device
[12:07] <Mater> second option, third tab
[12:07] <Ropechoborra> Why i cant run Easycam2 on kubuntu?
[12:07] <Ropechoborra> It says:   File "/usr/share/EasyCam2/easycam.py", line 25, in ?
[12:07] <Ropechoborra>     import gnome.ui
[12:07] <Ropechoborra> ImportError: No module named gnome.u
[12:07] <Xzyx987X> well, if it's deleted it complains about the file not existing...
[12:08] <FJ_Sanchez> If I go to Desktop properties --> Appareance --> Device Icons
[12:08] <{slacky}> hello
[12:08] <Xzyx987X> but I'm pretty sure the command didn't do anything either way
[12:08] <{slacky}> I've got this proble: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/59134
[12:08] <{slacky}> but I read it's fixed
[12:08] <FJ_Sanchez> I can check the box that says "Mounted Removable device" to show the icons in my desktop when they are mounted
[12:08] <{slacky}> it's not fixed
[12:08] <FJ_Sanchez> And that works right
[12:08] <Xzyx987X> since the modified date on the kdm file didn't change
[12:09] <Xzyx987X> any other ideas?
[12:09] <FJ_Sanchez> But in dapper I had also a box that said "Unmounted removable devices" and nowin Edgy I don't have this box
[12:09] <FJ_Sanchez> Do you have this?