[05:31] <nagyv> anyone using prevu here? I would like to build frozen bubble v2, but it depends on libsdl-pango-dev, what builds fine with prevu, but is not found when I would like to build frozen bubble.
[05:33] <rylasasin> does anyone know if theres a plugin for widescreen support?
[05:33] <rylasasin> as in support for widescreen monitors?
[05:35] <BluesKaj> !widescreen
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <BluesKaj> !resolution
[05:35] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:36] <xenol> which packages do i need to enable audio and video thumbnails?
[05:38] <BluesKaj> audio thumbnails?
[05:39] <BluesKaj> !thumbnails
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thumbnails - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <Kite_DH> hi everybody
[05:40] <xenol> BluesKaj: well audio preview and video thumbnails in konqueror i have both ticked in "view" option but i need some libs for it and dont know which ones
[05:41] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[05:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:42] <BluesKaj> xenol , firefox works better, the plugins are more up to date
[05:43] <xenol> BluesKaj: i mean konqueror and file manager not for web
[05:43] <BluesKaj> oh'
[05:43] <BluesKaj> I just use kaffeine
[05:45] <rylasasin_> sorry I changed desktops before I could get an answer to this, but is there a plugin for widescreen support?
[05:47] <BluesKaj> hmm, what's the command for placing an program in the kmenu  ?
[05:47] <BluesKaj> any program
[05:47] <hagabaka> why is it that the mimetype for .py in /etc/mime.types is text/x-python, while in KDE it's application/x-python ? as a result, KDE can't open such files automatically when served from a webserver running on the same computer
[05:48] <Krator> What is a good alternative for Konqueror as file management?
[05:48] <BluesKaj> hagabaka, perhaps that question is best asked in #python
[05:48] <hagabaka> BluesKaj: are you looking for the menu editor, or a command line for doing it?
[05:49] <hagabaka> BluesKaj: the same with ruby, perl, etc
[05:49] <moparisthebest> can I get a list of registered users from the command line?
[05:49] <hagabaka> it's not related to the programming languages, but the setup in Ubuntu and Ubuntu's KDE
[05:49] <mzanfardino> I've just installed Kubuntu 6.10 on a machine with a NVidia GFX 5600 vidio card.  I've set it up with two independant desktops, as opposed to a single twin-view desktop (to permit simultaneous execution of OpenGL applications).  How do I duplicate the settings form Desktop0 to Desktop1 so as to make both desktops appear identical (in terms of layout, applications, etc)?
[05:50] <Lynoure> moparisthebest: registered users as in freenode users or existing user accounts on your system?
[05:50] <Kite_DH> how can i open my "systems list"
[05:50] <Kite_DH> ?
[05:50] <moparisthebest> existing user accounts on my system Lynoure
[05:50] <BluesKaj> hagabaka,if cli works i can use that
[05:50] <snikker> it's a normal thing that kdesu set the home var to /root?
[05:51] <moparisthebest> yes snikker
[05:51] <BluesKaj> Kite_DH, sources list - repositories ?
[05:51] <moparisthebest> kdesu is just a graphical sudo
[05:51] <Kite_DH> yes blues
[05:51] <Kite_DH> that thing
[05:51] <xenol> which lib packages do i need in order to be able to use video thumbnails and sound preview in konqueror?
[05:51] <snikker> moparisthebest: but sudo don't do that...
[05:51] <moparisthebest> yes it does snikker
[05:51] <rylasasin_> is there a plugin for better usage of widescreen monitors?
[05:52] <moparisthebest> sudo -i does that
[05:52] <hagabaka> BluesKaj: the GUI is kmenuedit, or could be opened by right clicking on the KDE menu button, and Menu Editor
[05:52] <Lynoure> moparisthebest: you can see all user accounts by less /etc/passwd
[05:52] <Lynoure> moparisthebest: that includes both system and user accounts
[05:52] <moparisthebest> thanks Lynoure
[05:52] <hagabaka> i don't think there's a cui program for it. but it probably just involves creating .desktop files somewhere in ~/.kde
[05:53] <BluesKaj> hagabaka, I tried that already , it doesn't apply to what I'm rtying to do :(
[05:53] <hagabaka> what are you trying to do?
[05:53] <moparisthebest> Lynoure is there a way to delete/remove a user?
[05:53] <BluesKaj> Kite_DH, kdesu kate /etc/apt/filename
[05:53] <Kite_DH> hmm
[05:53] <BluesKaj> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:54] <Kite_DH> ok thanks
[05:54] <BluesKaj> in the terminal
[05:54] <Kite_DH> yup
[05:54] <Lynoure> moparisthebest: yes, userdel, see  man userdel
[05:54] <snikker> moparisthebest: when i run (with sudo) a program that print "printenv" it show home=my-home, but with kdesu it print home=/root and font on the gui program are incomprensible
[05:55] <[GuS] > hi guys!... i have a problem trying to build packages since feisty 4, using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc, with this error: "dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address"
[05:56] <[GuS] > what i should do? something change?
[05:56] <moparisthebest> I just remember running konqueror with sudo and with kdesu and when you click home directory it takes you to /root snikker
[05:56] <moparisthebest> but thats strange
[05:56] <cox377> i\m really confused about something, with kmplayer whenever i select a media file off a network share it just streams it like u would expect, however with mplayer it insists in downloading it first.. can anyone explain why?
[05:57] <roby> bibi
[05:57] <snikker> moparisthebest: my problem is that i'm unable to see label strings when i run it with kdesu
[05:58] <kunal_> i am running kubuntu feisty and i ran into upgrade problems today. the X (x11-common) packages seem to be the cause of the trouble
[05:58] <kunal_> anyone else facing similar problems?
[05:58] <Kite_DH> BluesKaj: can you help me getting this installed?? --> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[05:59] <Lynoure> kunal_: feisty is not released yet, so it's support is at #ubuntu+1
[05:59] <BluesKaj> sorry Kite_DH , i don't use wine ...i just switch over to my windows partition if a ineed to do windows stuff
[05:59] <empiric> guys
[05:59] <empiric> any idea how i cure my konqueror in ubuntu
[05:59] <empiric> its crashing
[05:59] <empiric> oftenly
[06:00] <Kite_DH> BluesKaj: then cann you tell me how i can make this move--> "First, open a terminal window. Then add the repository's key to your system's list of trusted APT keys by copy and pasting the following:"
[06:00] <snikker> Kite_DH: open /etc/apt/sources.list with text editor and add repository
[06:01] <Kite_DH> where to add it? at the bottom?
[06:01] <BluesKaj> yes
[06:01] <Kite_DH> ok
[06:01] <BluesKaj> then save it
[06:01] <Kite_DH> what was the full cmd again for /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <Kite_DH> aw kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <BluesKaj> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list yes
[06:03] <Kite_DH> relogging
[06:03] <snikker> Kite_DH: then add this line: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[06:04] <BluesKaj> too late
[06:04] <Kite_DH> back
[06:04] <thomas_> Fr
[06:05] <snikker> Kite_DH: then add this line: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[06:05] <Kite_DH> ok
[06:05] <pointwood> is the feisty herd4 CD a liveCD?
[06:05] <BluesKaj> snikker, I wish the whole title was underlined and highlighted , some ppl don't copy and paste the whole 'deb.....edgy main''
[06:05] <thomas_> what is Kubuntu Fr ?
[06:05] <kitts> pointwood, yes
[06:05] <pointwood> thanks
[06:05] <BluesKaj> french
[06:05] <thomas_> yes
[06:05] <BluesKaj> !fr
[06:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:05] <pointwood> I'll test it on my thinkpad then :)
[06:06] <Kite_DH> QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter
[06:06] <Kite_DH> thats what it says when i save it
[06:06] <Kite_DH> is that normal?
[06:07] <BluesKaj> you've copied something unecessary or missed something Kite_DH
[06:07] <snikker> BluesKaj: you are right...
[06:07] <neoncode> What program should I use in KDE to accsess USENET?
[06:07] <Kite_DH> BluesKaj: but it said to add "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" and then "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main"
[06:08] <LjL> !knode | neoncode
[06:08] <ubotu> neoncode: knode: KDE news reader. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1195 kB, installed size 2948 kB
[06:08] <BluesKaj> Kite_DH, you have to copy the whole line svnikker gave ypi not just the highlighted part  starting with "deb.....edgy main"
[06:08] <LjL> neoncode: it's actually part of Kontact, once you install it
[06:08] <neoncode> LjL: Thanks very much.
[06:08] <Kite_DH> yes, i added this blue
[06:08] <Kite_DH> only that line or the other one too?
[06:08] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:09] <Kite_DH> hi
[06:09] <snikker> Kite_DH: you must paste also: deb edgy main
[06:09] <Kite_DH> snikker:  this? --> "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main"
[06:09] <BluesKaj> Kite_DH, no i din't tell you copy that  winewget line  to sourceslist..that is a command used in the terminal
[06:09] <Kite_DH> oh
[06:10] <Kite_DH> ok
[06:10] <surgy> guten morgan
[06:10] <surgy> close?
[06:10] <snikker> Kite_DH: yes
[06:10] <BluesKaj> Kite_DH, do what snikker just suggested
[06:11] <parkerw207_> !ge
[06:11] <ubotu>       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[06:11] <snikker> Kite_DH: then run tis command:   wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[06:11] <parkerw207_> ooops
[06:11] <parkerw207_> !ger
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <LjL> !de
[06:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:11] <parkerw207_> thats it :)
[06:11] <parkerw207_> lol
[06:11] <snikker> BluesKaj: how can i highlight a whole line in konversastion?
[06:11] <parkerw207_> i forgot the abriviation :P
[06:12] <LjL> well !german works too
[06:12] <parkerw207_> it does ?
[06:12] <parkerw207_> ahh i didnt know
[06:12] <BluesKaj> snikker i dunno ...it's a big prob when trying to help ppl
[06:12] <parkerw207_> i dont know any of those little tricks rally :P
[06:13] <snikker> BluesKaj: yes, it's true...
[06:13] <BluesKaj> it would be better in a way if the deb wasn't highlighted
[06:14] <BluesKaj> it's confusing for newbs
[06:15] <Kite_DH> BluesKaj: it still doesnt work...:(
[06:15] <jhutchins> snikker: triple-click?
[06:16] <snikker> jhutchins: no, i want post an highlighted line in the channel
[06:16] <Kite_DH> it still says QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter
[06:17] <jhutchins> snikker: You want the text you post to be highlighted?
[06:17] <snikker> Kite_DH: what to you run for get that message?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update in the terminal Kite_DH
[06:17] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update
[06:18] <Kite_DH> aw ok
[06:18] <snikker> jhutchins: at the moment none...
[06:19] <Kite_DH> and after that sudo apt-get update
[06:19] <BluesKaj> that's the command for updating changes in the repos list
[06:19] <BluesKaj> sources list
[06:19] <snikker> jhutchins: it's just for highlight a whole commmand...
[06:19] <Kite_DH> oh ok
[06:20] <Kite_DH> but its still version 0.9.22 ...
[06:20] <Kite_DH> hmm
[06:20] <Kite_DH> im doing something wrong
[06:20] <jhutchins> snikker: You can use ascii color encoding to highlight text, but most people don't appreacite it, and many channels ban it.
[06:21] <snikker> Kite_DH: you can run: "apt-get install wine"
[06:21] <Kite_DH> it says that i didnt sign a key
[06:21] <Kite_DH> when i make the systems.list update
[06:21] <snikker> jhutchins: oh, ok... where is the syntax for ascii color?
[06:21] <BluesKaj> friggin wine , what PITA
[06:22] <jhutchins> snikker: I don't know off hand, and as I said I don't think it's a good idea.
[06:22] <Kite_DH> :(
[06:22] <snikker> Kite_DH: do you have run "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - " as i sayd?
[06:22] <snikker> jhutchins: oh, ok :-)
[06:22] <Kite_DH> oh
[06:22] <Kite_DH> now
[06:23] <Kite_DH> now it says something that it cant get acces to /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:23] <Kite_DH> (13 Permission denied)
[06:24] <Kite_DH> do i need to relog?
[06:24] <BluesKaj> Kite_DH, type this into the terminal : sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[06:24] <Kite_DH> ok, and then?
[06:24] <Kite_DH> its done
[06:24] <BluesKaj> the whole line , not just the highlighted part
[06:24] <Kite_DH> yes
[06:24] <Kite_DH> it dled something or so
[06:24] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update
[06:24] <Kite_DH> then its over
[06:25] <Kite_DH> that doesnt work
[06:25] <BluesKaj> do it again
[06:25] <Kite_DH> it always says permission denied
[06:25] <BluesKaj> in the terminal ?
[06:25] <Kite_DH> yes
[06:26] <BluesKaj> are you using sudo?
[06:26] <snikker> Kite_DH: what do you have typed?
[06:26] <Kite_DH> whats that
[06:26] <Kite_DH> well, i opened this, systems.list
[06:26] <Kite_DH> i put the line in u said at the bottom
[06:26] <BluesKaj> no
[06:26] <Kite_DH> then i saved it
[06:26] <Kite_DH> ugh?
[06:27] <Kite_DH> ok,  removed that line
[06:27] <BluesKaj> then you type sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[06:27] <Kite_DH> oh
[06:27] <Kite_DH> now
[06:27] <Kite_DH> ok and then?
[06:27] <Kite_DH> now it says i didnt sign a key for beryl
[06:27] <Kite_DH> >_<
[06:28] <Kite_DH> ok and now that did  isudo apt-get update ran
[06:28] <Kite_DH> sudo*
[06:28] <Kite_DH>  sudo apt-get update ran
[06:28] <Kite_DH> argh
[06:28] <Kite_DH> yes,  you know what i mean
[06:31] <BluesKaj> what did you remove from the sources list?
[06:31] <Kite_DH> the line of wine
[06:31] <BluesKaj> the deb line ?
[06:31] <snikker> Kite_DH: first import gpg key with:  "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - "
[06:32] <BluesKaj> he did that
[06:32] <Kite_DH> ok snikker, it was successfull
[06:32] <Kite_DH> and next?
[06:32] <BluesKaj> now add the deb line to the sources list
[06:32] <Kite_DH> ok wait
[06:32] <snikker> Kite_DH: do as BluesKaj say
[06:32] <Kite_DH> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[06:33] <Kite_DH> this right?
[06:33] <snikker> ok
[06:33] <BluesKaj> yes the whole line
[06:33] <BluesKaj> then save it
[06:33] <Kite_DH> ok saved it, and now the terminal says "QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter"
[06:33] <snikker> Kite_DH: you must open tha file as root (with sudo)
[06:34] <BluesKaj> not in the terminal , in the sources list
[06:34] <Kite_DH> yes i did that
[06:34] <Kite_DH> and then when i saved the systems.list
[06:34] <Kite_DH> it says deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[06:34] <Kite_DH> it says QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter
[06:34] <Kite_DH> in the terminal
[06:35] <snikker> Kite_DH: type: "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:35] <Kite_DH> yes
[06:35] <snikker> Kite_DH: try with nano: "sudo nano  /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:35] <Kite_DH> and then i made this "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main" entry at the bottom
[06:36] <snikker> Kite_DH: yes the line is right but without ""
[06:36] <Kite_DH> i know
[06:36] <snikker> ok
[06:36] <Kite_DH> i made it without the "
[06:36] <snikker> Kite_DH: work with nano editor?
[06:36] <Kite_DH> this nano thing says "sudo nano  /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:36] <Kite_DH> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[06:36] <Kite_DH> ## repository.
[06:37] <snikker> Kite_DH: go to bottom
[06:37] <Kite_DH> ok
[06:37] <Kite_DH> of terminal?
[06:37] <BluesKaj> yes take #s out
[06:37] <snikker> right click and past the line
[06:37] <underdog5004> surgy, it didn't work.
[06:37] <BluesKaj> too many cooks ... I'll leave it toi you . snikker
[06:38] <Kite_DH> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[06:38] <Kite_DH> ## repository.
[06:38] <Kite_DH>  Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[06:38] <Kite_DH>  repository.
[06:38] <surgy> underdog5004: elaborate?
[06:39] <snikker> Kite_DH: add the line at the bottom of file
[06:39] <Kite_DH> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main ???
[06:39] <snikker> yes
[06:39] <Kite_DH> i did
[06:39] <snikker> save the file with CTRL+O
[06:40] <Kite_DH> ok
[06:40] <snikker> then exit CTR+X
[06:40] <Kite_DH> ok
[06:40] <snikker> then sudo apt-get update
[06:40] <nanda_> is there a kubuntu edgy package for amarok 1.4.5 yet?
[06:40] <Kite_DH> ok
[06:40] <snikker> then sudo apt-get install wine
[06:40] <underdog5004> surgy, ok. When I woke up this morning, I went to my computer and it was locked at 100% cpu, I couldn't move the mouse, and I had to restart...
[06:40] <Kite_DH> oh no
[06:40] <Kite_DH> now*
[06:40] <Kite_DH> thank you!!!
[06:41] <Kite_DH> now it works
[06:41] <snikker> ok
[06:41] <surgy> underdog5004: check your pm
[06:41] <snikker> enjoy it!
[06:41] <Kite_DH> yes hehe
[06:41] <Kite_DH> i need it for PS 7.0 you see
[06:42] <Kite_DH> finally
[06:42] <Kite_DH> hehe
[06:42] <snikker> Kite_DH: i understand... but i prefer gimp ;-)
[06:42] <Kite_DH> yes, but i only learned PS :(
[06:42] <Kite_DH> i had windows XP 3 days ago
[06:42] <Kite_DH> im still linux newb
[06:43] <snikker> Kite_DH: i understand... welcome to the linux users :-)
[06:43] <Kite_DH> hehe, thx
[06:43] <Kite_DH> im proud of being a linux user
[06:43] <Kite_DH> :)
[06:43] <snikker> :)
[06:44] <Kite_DH> yesh! photoshop works yehaaa
[06:44] <BluesKaj> i've had kubuntu since june , but I'm still a neb in many ways
[06:44] <KanRiNiN> Hi.  Whenever I try to open any jpg with gwenview it doesn't show up
[06:44] <BluesKaj> strange , wine has never worked right on this pc
[06:44] <Kite_DH> this guy in wine was so unkind
[06:45] <Kite_DH> he used caps on me lol
[06:45] <Kite_DH> :(
[06:45] <Kite_DH> he said i should ask the guys of my distro
[06:45] <KanRiNiN> also, whenever I enable compositing kdm won't start, yet w/o compositing my driver settings are fine
[06:45] <BluesKaj> well , he's right in a way
[06:46] <Kite_DH> ^^maybe
[06:47] <Kite_DH> can you please help me installing my webcam?
[06:47] <Kite_DH> no idea how that works
[06:48] <Kite_DH> is it possible to install drivers with WINE?
[06:48] <snikker> who want try to compile and test a simple program? it's only to see if the problem is on my machine is not...
[06:48] <MementoMori> hi all
[06:48] <snikker> Kite_DH: sorrry, but i can't halp with webcam, i don' have it...
[06:49] <Kite_DH> hmm ok
[06:50] <Kite_DH> oh yes, snikker, maybe you can help me here
[06:50] <Kite_DH> the problem is
[06:51] <Arkezis> bonsoir !
[06:51] <Arkezis> bonsoir bonsoir
[06:51] <snikker> Kite_DH: yes...
[06:51] <MuJ> bonsoir? O_o
[06:51] <Kite_DH> when i want to copy the files from a DVD/CD to my HD, it stops about 80% and breaks up
[06:51] <Arkezis> MuJ il est 18h50 ^^
[06:52] <snikker> Kite_DH: it's a movie?
[06:52] <Arkezis> This chan is English ?
[06:52] <MuJ> yes
[06:52] <Kite_DH> yes, .avi file 600mb
[06:52] <snikker> Arkezis: yes
[06:52] <Arkezis> omg ! I have a problem but I speak little English :s
[06:52] <MementoMori> well, I registered myself to launchpad and have subscribed the code of conduct, but now... what I can do? how can I give/request support or starting translating app/docs?
[06:52] <Arkezis> I trying to explai my problem !
[06:52] <MuJ> Arkezis: how about #kubuntu-fr ?
[06:53] <Kite_DH> hehe, is there a german channel too?
[06:53] <Arkezis> MuJ ! good idea, this chan is unknow for me :)
[06:53] <snikker> Kite_DH: so it's a simple movie, not a dvd movie right?
[06:53] <Kite_DH> snikker: its a simple .avi file, yes
[06:53] <MuJ> Kite_DH: most likely
[06:53] <Arkezis> thxs and bye all
[06:53] <snikker> Kite_DH: maybe the cd is dirty?
[06:54] <Kite_DH> naw, i'll stay with you guys
[06:54] <Kite_DH> you helped me out nice all the time
[06:54] <Kite_DH> lol
[06:54] <MuJ> :)
[06:54] <ollie> heloo
[06:54] <Kite_DH> hi
[06:54] <ollie> looking for some support here,
[06:54] <ollie> cant find much on it
[06:54] <ollie> got 2 soundcards in my system
[06:54] <ollie> onboard intel
[06:54] <Kite_DH> snikker: 535,6 MB .avi filetype
[06:55] <ollie> and an m-audio delta 66 pci card
[06:55] <jhutchins> !de > Kite_DH
[06:55] <MementoMori> !launchpad
[06:55] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[06:55] <johny_> join #ubuntu-pl
[06:56] <snikker> Kite_DH: the cause could be a dirty cd/dvd... or demaged cd/dvd
[06:56] <mefisto__> ollie, do you get sound routed to the wrong card? that is, the onboard one?
[06:56] <ollie> on boot, kubuntu switches the 2 soundcards around, i want the oboard sound to be card0 and the m-audio pci card to be card1 all the time but it keeps switching them
[06:56] <Kite_DH> they said it yesterday too
[06:56] <Kite_DH> but i just burned it :(
[06:56] <Kite_DH> oh wow, now that i allowed stuff to users it work
[06:57] <Kite_DH> works*
[06:57] <MementoMori> !hal
[06:57] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[06:57] <mefisto__> ollie: if you only want to use the m-audio card, you could blacklist the onboard one
[06:57] <Kite_DH> wow, thats nice
[06:57] <Kite_DH> i can finally get my stuff down
[06:57] <Kite_DH> hahaha
[06:57] <Kite_DH> woow amazing, thank you
[06:57] <MementoMori> ollie: maybe you can set your cards configuring hal
[06:58] <ollie> hal?
[06:58] <ollie> never heard of it,
[06:58] <MementoMori> but consider this only an idea to be verified
[06:58] <MementoMori> !hal > ollie
[06:58] <ollie> i thought this was something to do with the way the kernel is probing for devices
[06:58] <Vincent_k> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer
[06:59] <ollie> il look into it
[06:59] <MementoMori> ollie: but between kernel and apps lives hal
[06:59] <ollie> where do you configure it?
[06:59] <ollie> i havent a clue
[06:59] <MarcoPau> how do I extract a "multiple" rar archive? (rar.001, rar.002...)
[07:00] <MarcoPau> I got ark
[07:00] <MementoMori> ollie: I really dont know but am serching for doc now.... stay online
[07:00] <ollie> cheers pal
[07:00] <mefisto__> MarcoPau: do you have unrar installed?
[07:00] <alfatau> hello, i want to reinstall windows on my pc, but i have kubuntu installed too in another partition. I know after win installation grub boot sector will be replaced and i will no longer be able to boot kubuntu, so what can i do to restore grub after win installation?
[07:00] <snikker> MarcoPau: you must install "unrar"
[07:00] <MementoMori> MarcoPau: extract the first one.... the others will follow
[07:00] <MarcoPau> it can't be done with ark?
[07:01] <snikker> MarcoPau: yes but you need the unrar command
[07:01] <joachim^^> Hi, it says on the Kubuntu help guide that i should install 'libxine-extracodecs', but i can't find it in any repository. I've enabled all repositories that were in Adept
[07:01] <mefisto__> MarcoPau: ark needs unrar to do it
[07:01] <MementoMori> MarcoPau: I did it using unrar in a konsole session
[07:02] <MarcoPau> I have unrar, of course, I just wasn't sure on how to unpack a multiple archive, cause ark doesn't seem to recognize it, at least when opening... let me try
[07:02] <snikker> MarcoPau: just extract the first one
[07:02] <MarcoPau> nope, won't work if I unpack the first one
[07:03] <MarcoPau> let me try from shell
[07:03] <snikker> MarcoPau: strange... what version of unurar do you have?
[07:04] <mefisto__> there is a free and non-free unrar, correct?
[07:04] <snikker> mefisto__: yes, it's true...
[07:05] <MarcoPau> snikker: 3.7.3
[07:05] <MarcoPau> if I unrar e archive.rar.001 it won't do the following ones as well
[07:05] <snikker> MarcoPau: so do you have a free verion right?
[07:06] <MarcoPau> snikker: no, this is non-free
[07:06] <viktor> Hi, i am from slovakia :D you know where is slovakia?
[07:06] <viktor> sorry my english is bad :)
[07:06] <MarcoPau> viktor: sure
[07:06] <mefisto__> MarcoPau: the first one should have just .rar without a number
[07:06] <snikker> MarcoPau: do you get it here: http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm  ?
[07:08] <alfatau> hello, i want to reinstall windows on my pc, but i have kubuntu installed too in another partition. I know after win installation grub boot sector will be replaced and i will no longer be able to boot kubuntu, so what can i do to restore grub after win installation?
[07:08] <MarcoPau> snikker: get what?
[07:09] <mefisto__> alfatau: there's a guide somewhere explaining the process. try google?
[07:09] <MarcoPau> mefisto__: tried renaming, still not connecting the two parts
[07:09] <Skuller> hey guys...can anyone help me to shut off my internet connection within kubuntu?
[07:09] <snikker> MarcoPau: do you have linux 32-bit or 64-bit?
[07:09] <MarcoPau> snikker: 32
[07:10] <mefisto__> MarcoPau: no, you can't do that! the first is archive.rar, and it contains info about all the other archive.rar.00, archive.rar.01, etc
[07:11] <snikker> MarcoPau: mmm... if you want recompile it from source http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.7.3.tar.gz else http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrar-3.5.3-i486-1.tgz
[07:11] <MarcoPau> mefisto__: right, but I only had rar.001 and rar.002, no just .ara
[07:11] <MarcoPau> rar*
[07:11] <mehdi_> hi every one
[07:11] <Skuller> hey guys...can anyone help me to shut off my internet connection within kubuntu?
[07:12] <Skuller> i tried poff dsl-provider already but it says kill failed
[07:12] <mefisto__> MarcoPau: maybe you have the first (and most important) one missing? I could be wrong, but I think normally the first one has no number
[07:13] <snikker> MarcoPau: yes the first one should be *.rar and nor *.rar.001
[07:13] <MarcoPau> well this is how I got them. I tried renaming the first as .rar, but no result
[07:14] <mefisto__> MarcoPau: renaming won't work at all. You have to keep the original filenames to unpack them
[07:14] <MarcoPau> well that's not working also :)
[07:15] <mefisto__> MarcoPau: seems you have an incomplete set
[07:15] <snikker> MarcoPau: it seem that you need the *.rar file
[07:15] <mehdi_> i would like to make questions about java ???
[07:15] <MarcoPau> mm, can't be, the archive is complete
[07:15] <MementoMori> ollie: are you still online?
[07:15] <Skuller> hey guys...can anyone help me to shut off my internet connection within kubuntu?...the 'poff ds;-provider' command doesn work...says process kill failed
[07:16] <snikker> MarcoPau: you made the split-stream archive?
[07:16] <kunal> try 'sudo poff -a'
[07:16] <mefisto__> MarcoPau: try making a multipart rar yourself, then unpack it, to see if it works
[07:16] <ollie> MementoMori I may have fixed this soundcard issue. Need to reboot to test.
[07:16] <kunal> mehdi_: are the questions related to kubuntu?
[07:17] <mefisto__> ollie: what did you do?
[07:17] <MementoMori> ollie: am waitin your reboot
[07:17] <MarcoPau> snikker: don't even know what that is
[07:18] <mehdi_> kunal my question is how to do to obtain information like memory size with java code
[07:18] <Skuller> i get this everytime i try to disconnect my internet in kubuntu using 'poff dsl-provider'..../usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed.  None stopped......please help me out
[07:19] <Skuller> kunal: hey it worked...thnx heaps man
[07:19] <Skuller> was missin out on da sudo part
[07:19] <snikker> MarcoPau: try to do as mefisto__ say...
[07:19] <wilman> my quickcam is'snt working
[07:20] <MarcoPau> I'm also trying on windoze with vmware, it's not recognizing the archive... damn
[07:20] <kunal> np
[07:20] <mehdi_> kunal do u have an idea ??
[07:20] <snikker> MarcoPau: as supposed a .rar part is missing...
[07:21] <backtick> Hi all.. I just installed noatun and I get this error when I try to run it: noatun: WARNING: Couldn't instanciate artsobject Noatun::Session. (This is normally caused by a broken package or compiling kdemultimedia in a --prefix different from arts.  It may also be from two conflicting packages, so uninstall every arts/artsd package you have installed and try again.
[07:21] <backtick> arts is installed and running
[07:21] <MarcoPau> snikker: that's almost impossible, cause the size amount actually matches with the content, and this has been downloaded by many people, so they would complain if there was actually a problem...
[07:22] <MarcoPau> let me better search anyway
[07:22] <mefisto__> backtick: try restarting artsd
[07:22] <kunal> mehdi_: wrong place boss... try #java or something
[07:23] <mehdi_> ok thanx
[07:23] <mehdi_> join/ #java
[07:23] <mehdi_> oups
[07:26] <backtick> mefisto__: thanks it worked
[07:26] <mefisto__> backtick: I installed it yesterday :P
[07:26] <MementoMori> mefisto__: hope ollie solved his problem.... now I have to go... If you are still insterested in his problem look for hal-device-manager. here you can see and set hw properties
[07:26] <mefisto__> thanks MementoMori
[07:27] <ostlund> how do i disable the shared imap-folders in kmail? they dont show up in thunderbird and i dont want to show them
[07:27] <MementoMori> urw
[07:27] <MementoMori> bye
[07:27] <snikker> can anyone compile and test a dummy program? it's only to see if the problem is on my machine or not...
[07:28] <fdoving> snikker: sure, where can i find it?
[07:29] <snikker> fdoving: i paste it, just a moment...
[07:29] <fdoving> !paste | snikker
[07:29] <ubotu> snikker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <snikker> fdoving: i've do it look here: http://pastebin.com/883782
[07:31] <xenol> plz
[07:32] <xenol> can i erase content of /tmp while i am su?
[07:32] <snikker> xenol: yes
[07:34] <fdoving> snikker: i have to install fltk, hang on.
[07:34] <snikker> fdoving: ok, thanks
[07:34] <ksnipa> I'm trying to compile superkarmba (synpatic version wouldn't work) anyways I'm getting an error when I run configure saying I'm missing Python header and libraries, I used to synpatic and installed python but it still doesn't seem to be working, anyone know what packages I need to install exactly to get it working?
[07:35] <ksnipa> I've tried sudo apt-get install python2.4 but get that it is already installed
[07:38] <fdoving> snikker: works.
[07:38] <snikker> fdoving: ok, thanks... now try to run it with kdesu...
[07:38] <fdoving> snikker: why?
[07:39] <snikker> fdoving: because with kdesu don't show labels...
[07:39] <intelikey> true ;echo $? ;false ;echo $? ;echo ;echo $?
[07:39] <fdoving> snikker: it does here.
[07:40] <snikker> fdoving: you can see the text on button also if you run with kdesu?
[07:40] <intelikey> i'm a little concerned with the way that apt seems to do business with the file system.
[07:40] <fdoving> snikker: yes.
[07:41] <snikker> fdoving: damn... in my machine i don't see the text with kdesu... :(
[07:41] <snikker> fdoving: and i don't understand why...
[07:41] <backtick> mefisto__: it always throws couldn't load file.. is there any way to get it to use xine as a backend?
[07:42] <beg1689> is there a firewall set up by default?
[07:42] <fdoving> beg1689: no.
[07:42] <beg1689> having trouble with some LAN prorgams
[07:42] <snikker> fdoving: thanks for testing...
[07:42] <beg1689> how can i check'\
[07:42] <intelikey> apt seems to download to /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/  then use ln to make hard links in /var/cache/apt/archives/  and rm's the origenal.    this is totally unacceptable of course if the two dirs are on seperate fs's
[07:44] <fdoving> intelikey: they should not be.
[07:44] <intelikey> fdoving ?
[07:44] <fdoving> that's kinda the point.
[07:44] <intelikey> explain ?
[07:45] <fdoving> why would you ever download something to a separate fs, just to copy it over to another when it finishes?
[07:45] <fdoving> that doesn't make sense.
[07:45] <fdoving> in any situations i can think of.
[07:46] <intelikey> fdoving what about making the "partial" dir a symlink to a ram disk so that anything in there is only in ram?
[07:47] <intelikey> saves on disk activity makes things flow more quickly/quietly
[07:47] <fdoving> intelikey: sure, if you have enought ram that would be a good solution. but that would limit your to a size.
[07:47] <intelikey> fdoving you are always limited on size.   whether the limit is low or high.
[07:48] <fdoving> so if your machine looses power at 99% download you're willing to loose everything you've downloaded so far?
[07:48] <intelikey> at the exponential rate of disk size/usage 1,000,000 tara bytes will soon be too small
[07:49] <fdoving> you're always free to make improvements, the defauls are there to be sensible for most configurations.
[07:51] <intelikey> fdoving i only gave one logical example.   the actual case where i noticed that problem is, when i was adding another disk mounted on */partial to allow the download that otherwise was too big to fit the crowded space i had.  then i discovered that i had to manually copy the files after dl so that apt could call dpkg to install them.
[07:52] <intelikey> apt doesn't copy from partial  it hardlinks   you can't hard link accross fs's
[07:52] <intelikey> thus a built-in weekness that doesn't need to be there.
[07:52] <fdoving> why don't you just include archive/ ?
[07:53] <fdoving> if your FS is full it doesn't make sense to just mount /partial to something else.
[07:53] <intelikey> fdoving i did.   but that's not always the most affective answer either.   why doesn't apt just cp rather than ln   that's the better solution.
[07:53] <fdoving> it has to go to partial/.. when it's finished anyway.
[07:54] <Heavenquake> hmm.. software for recording the desktop? I want to record a couple of minute of myself using my computer, and send it to a friend to demonstrate Linux
[07:54] <inam> hi everyone. i have just compiled GRUB 0.97... and im going to replace it with the grub that was installed along with kubuntu dapper... any words of advice?!
[07:55] <hatta> has anyone in here used klibido?
[07:55] <pmjdebruijn> hi
[07:55] <inam> let me correct myself... im going to replace the grub that was installed by kubutu CD with the one that i have just compiled :-) is this suicidal ?
[07:55] <pmjdebruijn> why does amaroK depend on libgtk2.0-0?
[07:55] <hatta> the linux binaries downloader?
[07:56] <fdoving> Heavenquake: try istanbul
[07:56] <intelikey> fdoving yes but you have to have space for two copies if it cp's from partial to ..    but only space for one if it links there.    i think that was the origenal intent.   so i stumbled into what the writer had already planed on.  except i disagree with the writers decission.   i would have used cp not ln
[07:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> can someone help me? I have a dv6000 hp pavilion laptop and I was trying to install the nvidia drivers using these instructions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 and now X windows won't load, and I only have the terminal
[07:58] <fdoving> intelikey: i think ln is nicer to the fs. ln just adds a name to the inode. copy copies.
[07:58] <BluesKaj> !X
[07:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:58] <intelikey> fdoving yes i understand how they both work and why you can not link accross fs's
[07:59] <inam> ok, let me rephrase my question yet again, if i screw up my grub, how will get my computer to boot kubutu again?
[08:00] <BluesKaj> or dettoaltrimenti_ , 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:00] <intelikey> fdoving but ln is intended more for cases where you have several names or locations of one inode   not really intended for moving inodes to another location   that's what mv is for
[08:00] <giovanni_> ciao
[08:01] <giovanni_> ciao
[08:01] <BluesKaj> !it > giovanni_
[08:01] <giovanni_> ho istallato da poco kubuntu
[08:01] <BluesKaj> !it
[08:01] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:01] <fdoving> intelikey: the point is you don't want to move the inode, the less disc activity, the better.
[08:02] <giovanni_> ciao
[08:02] <BluesKaj> ciao giovanni_
[08:02] <intelikey> fdoving it's kinda like my use of echo to edit file...  not the best tool for the job.    while it works most of the time... not always.
[08:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> blueskaj- how much memory should I use for the video card?
[08:03] <giovanni_> un saluto a tutti
[08:03] <giovanni_> sono un novizio di linux
[08:03] <giovanni_> e volevo avere qualche aiuto
[08:03] <fdoving> !it | giovanni_
[08:03] <ubotu> giovanni_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
 blueskaj- how much memory should I use for the video card? <<<< how much does the card have ?
[08:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh nevermind
[08:04] <giovanni_> mi sai indicare dove posso chiedere alcune info?
[08:05] <giovanni_> ciao
[08:05] <Madeye> Hey, guys, I'm into web apps but I want to digg more into desktop apps and I'm thinking of QT
[08:06] <Madeye> any idea where to start?
[08:06] <Madeye> any official guide/book for QT and KDE?
[08:06] <guiguizero> hi all
[08:07] <fdoving> Madeye: http://developer.kde.org/ have some nice info. so does http://doc.trolltech.com
[08:07] <intelikey> fdoving my final thought on the matter is this, apt should have barrowed some code from 'mc' on that point.   mc seems to use hardlinks when possable and copys when a hardlink fails.
[08:07] <fdoving> intelikey: that would be optimal, submit a patch :)
[08:07] <inam> giovanni_, scriva /join # kubuntu-it
[08:07] <Madeye> fdoving, thank you, one more question, is QT a KDE thingy ? or a stand alone programming language and KDE adapting it ?
[08:08] <snikker> giovanni_: per le info devi andare nel canale italiano di kubuntu o ubuntu, qui i lsupporto  solo in inglese
[08:08] <fdoving> Madeye: QT is a standalone API (not a language), KDE uses it.
[08:08] <intelikey> fdoving i wouldn't know where to start.   i dont "C"   :)
[08:08] <piro> is it me or does ext3 take up more space in ntfs after formatting? i imagine so for journaling.
[08:08] <Madeye> API not a language
[08:08] <Madeye> hmm interesting
[08:08] <MotorCityMadMan> The following packages have been kept back:kontact ksysguard ksysguardd Reason is ?
[08:08] <thomas__> Serveur FR ????????
[08:09] <guiguizero> vive la france lol
[08:09] <fdoving> !fr | thomas__
[08:09] <ubotu> thomas__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:09] <fdoving> piro: often 5% is reserved to the super user. that way regular users can't fill the disk 100% and make the system die.
[08:10] <MotorCityMadMan> packages have been kept back:kontact ksysguard ksysguardd    Reason is ?
[08:11] <fdoving> piro: you can tune that to something more sensible. 'sudo tune2fs -m1 /dev/device' where -m1 is 1 percent. -m2 for 2.. and so on. /dev/device must be replaced with your ext3 device.
[08:11] <intelikey> piro which is totally ignored when installing things, because you are always root when installing so the extra 5% is writen anyway.
[08:11] <MotorCityMadMan> bug's ? lady bug's ? lighting bug's ?
[08:12] <intelikey> T U M B L E  bugs   :)
[08:12] <MotorCityMadMan> tumble weeds ?
[08:12] <singinmatt13> ok...so i can't login to my desktop anymore.  i'm running edgy.  this morning changed the file permissions on an unused file so that i could delete it.  It was a simple install file i'd never used.  well...my trash bin freaked out, and after i rebooted, it wouldn't log in inside kdm anymore.  It goes blank and then goes straight back to kdm
[08:13] <intelikey> tumble bug,  more propperly known as the 'dung beetle'
[08:13] <MotorCityMadMan> why packages held back ?
[08:13] <Dr_willis> try logging into the Console yet?
[08:13] <singinmatt13> works
[08:13] <MotorCityMadMan> not pretty yet ?
[08:13] <singinmatt13> i can login on the console all i want
[08:14] <singinmatt13> just not inside kdm
[08:14] <MotorCityMadMan> <-brain is on fire over held back packages
[08:14] <hector> hi, i'm new here
[08:14] <hector> what is this??
[08:15] <samiam010203> its kubuntu baby!
[08:15] <hector> it's a chat, isn't it??
[08:15] <samiam010203> yes
[08:15] <samiam010203> about kubuntu linux
[08:15] <samiam010203> u use it
[08:15] <hector> yeah
[08:15] <samiam010203> cool
[08:15] <hector> and where you from people??
[08:15] <hector> i'm from mexico
[08:16] <samiam010203> nyc
[08:16] <hector> great
[08:16] <inam> bangalore, india
[08:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> moscow, russia
[08:16] <hector> woooooos, that's great
[08:16] <andreasw> !de
[08:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:16] <hector> :|
[08:16] <MotorCityMadMan> i am from it's a mad mad world
[08:16] <hector> i'll go to russia in summer
[08:16] <BluesKaj> Ontario Canada
[08:17] <dettoaltrimenti_> cool- summer is a good time to come
[08:17] <blacksabbath_> hi
[08:17] <aztun_> hi
[08:17] <hector> really??? it is to cold???
[08:17] <hector> :s
[08:17] <italbir> hi
[08:17] <samiam010203> hello
[08:17] <MarcoPau> snikker and mefisto__:  the two parts are supposed to be joined with hjsplit or simlar, that's why! -_-
[08:17] <blacksabbath_> finaly i ave put net in my kubuntu!!!!
[08:18] <dettoaltrimenti_> do you use celcius or fahrenheit in meico
[08:18] <hector> farenheit
[08:18] <_6StringKng_> anyone recommend some cool games for kubuntu?
[08:18] <aztun_> anyone installed beryl with intel and kubuntu?
[08:18] <samiam010203> yes
[08:18] <intelikey> MotorCityMadMan there are several reasons that packages will be held back    1. part of the base system when updates are avalable only get updated with a "dist-upgrade"   2. packages installed from non-ubuntu repositories can cause packages they depend on to be held back   3. apt or dpkg can mark some packages as 'held' if asked to by any command/script (such as the install script of another package)
[08:18] <samiam010203> i have beryl with nvida
[08:18] <aztun_> it works great for me but video doesnt works ok
[08:18] <blacksabbath_> how i intall games in kubunto????
[08:18] <dettoaltrimenti_> it's 18 degrees right now- this time last year it was -40, so it depends
[08:18] <samiam010203> interinstructions can be had on the beryl wiki
[08:18] <MuJ> blacksabbath_: same way as anything else
[08:19] <blacksabbath_> i m a newbby
[08:19] <MotorCityMadMan> intelikey| ty for your respond's
[08:19] <inam> detto, global warming, eh?
[08:19] <moparisthebest> you know how bash saves the last commands you performed and you can get to them by pressing up in the terminal?
[08:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> blacksabbath_ open adept manager and search for tremulous, and download that
[08:19] <blacksabbath_> is era any one portuguese/brazilian???
[08:19] <moparisthebest> is there a place it saves those to so I can read them?
[08:19] <snikker> MarcoPau: oh, i understand... but it's strange mode to split a rar file :-) thanks for said it
[08:20] <samiam010203> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beryl.2FAIGLX_.28Intel_i915.29
[08:20] <MarcoPau> snikker: veramente, che boiata
[08:20] <MuJ> moparisthebest: ~/.bash_history
[08:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> inam- who knows, last year was abnormally cold and this year is a little warmer than is usual
[08:20] <BluesKaj> dunno, global warming kinda disappeared here on jan 15
[08:20] <blacksabbath_> ta ka algum portugues/brazileiro????
[08:20] <moparisthebest> thanks MuJ
[08:20] <eric__> hey all
[08:20] <mehdi_> i want to know if that's possible to upgrade my kubuntu version to kubuntu 6.x with apt ????
[08:20] <BluesKaj> !pt
[08:20] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:20] <snikker> MarcoPau: sei italiano?
[08:20] <hector> well it sounds good
[08:21] <MarcoPau> snikker: eh s
[08:21] <BluesKaj> !br
[08:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> blueskaj- I got x windows up and running again, but the graphics are acting very poorly and I think I need that nvidia driver- did you look at those directions I sent a link to?
[08:21] <MarcoPau> snikker: non so quanto marco sia usato all'estero... olanda, poi boh
[08:21] <MarcoPau> :)
[08:21] <intelikey> MotorCityMadMan yes.   but i'm not sure where  ....    man dpkg     search hold
[08:21] <snikker> MarcoPau: bhe anche in germania e austria ci sono un bel po' di marco...
[08:22] <LambSlayer> join #ubuntu-effects
[08:22] <LambSlayer> toops
[08:22] <eric__> can anyone here help with compression on kde?
[08:22] <MarcoPau> snikker: non usano solo markus?
[08:22] <intelikey> MotorCityMadMan if you are not familear with searching in less (the pager that the man command uses)   it's    /   or   ?   to search forward or backward respectively
[08:22] <hector> well guys, nice to meet you, it was fun, but i must go on on my way:p
[08:22] <hector> ciaooo
[08:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> bye hector
[08:22] <snikker> MarcoPau: usano anche marco...
[08:22] <hector> bye dettoaltrimenti
[08:22] <inam> adios amigo
[08:22] <piro> fdoving: intelikey: thanks for the info
[08:23] <hector> Nos vemos inam;)
[08:23] <MarcoPau> snikker: ah ecco, come i fiamminghi
[08:23] <eric__> anyone...?
[08:24] <intelikey> piro np.    all my life, people been telling me "you're full of IT"  so i figured i should share it if i was really that full of "IT"   :)
[08:24] <inam> ok people, i've decided to play with fire (grub, actually)... if all goes well, i will log back to this channel in 10 mins... otherwise, see you all in another life :)
[08:25] <defiant> Can someone please help me install flash in Firefox for a 64bit system
[08:25] <MotorCityMadMan> intelikey|over me as of this date/next path will be reading and ty for your time and kindness
[08:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> !nvidia
[08:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:27] <BluesKaj> dettoaltrimenti_, sorry i was away from the KB for a few mins
[08:28] <slow-motion> how can i see whats the name of my video card is?
[08:28] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin :). How are you?
[08:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> blueskaj it's ok- I've been reading about it- is it true that no one will help me install nvidia drivers?
[08:29] <jhutchins> !mp3 | defiant
[08:29] <ubotu> defiant: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:29] <maersk> cant use adept manager anymore ,because says it used by another program
[08:29] <intelikey> i'll be dl'ing 32m of updates now   (over 56k dialup that leaves no room for chat)  so i'll be back in a few hours maybe.
[08:29] <maersk> i tryed with the command kill but it wont work
[08:29] <maersk> can somebody help me ?
[08:29] <weed> yeah
[08:29] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | maersk
[08:29] <ubotu> maersk: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:29] <BluesKaj> well dettoaltrimenti_, the site is there for you to follow instructions , prolly better than we can give you
[08:30] <maersk> thx , i try
[08:30] <jhutchins> eric__: What do you want to know about compression?
[08:30] <dade__> lol my first irc
[08:30] <froud> hi, I am looking fo rlibpst from edgy universe by cant see it in the repos. Anyone know where I can get it?
[08:31] <froud> s/rlibpst/libpst
[08:31] <dade__> s/rlibpst/libpst
[08:31] <jhutchins> !find libpst
[08:31] <ubotu> Found: libpstoedit-dev, libpstoedit0c2a, libpstreams-dev
[08:33] <froud> jhutchins: I find http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libpst&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[08:33] <froud> jhutchins: but none of those are libpst
[08:34] <froud> jhutchins: yet I did find it in warty
[08:34] <froud> http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/source/libpst
[08:34] <froud> and http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/source/libpst
[08:34] <froud> at above URLs
[08:34] <maersk> thx, for all ,it worked !!
[08:35] <weed> I luv teh windowz
[08:37] <esaym> anyone here got conky running right on kde?
[08:39] <jhutchins> froud: It's most likely been replaced or incorporated in something else.
[08:39] <Gast573> hi
[08:40] <Gast573> gibt es hier wen der vielleicht etwas weniger arrogant ist und mir dau vielleicht helfen kann?!
[08:40] <voicu> any ideas on scripting kopete? python, ruby, what do you suggest?
[08:40] <Gast573> na dann halt nich
[08:41] <jhutchins> froud: try pt-file search libpst
[08:41] <jhutchins> froud: try apt-file search libpst
[08:41] <jhutchins> de! | Gast573
[08:41] <eric__> hallo Gast573
[08:41] <jhutchins> !de | Gast573
[08:41] <ubotu> Gast573: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:42] <jhutchins> Gast573: Wer sprechen nur ein bischen deutsch hier.
[08:42] <eric__> Ich
[08:42] <jhutchins> eric__: Did you have a question?
[08:43] <MisterQ> hello, I'm new to linux
[08:43] <eric__> ja, I did
[08:43] <eric__> trying to compress a folder in kde
[08:43] <voicu> MisterQ: that's nice, problems or something?
[08:44] <MisterQ> yeah...just install ubuntu on my ps3
[08:44] <jhutchins> eric__: I allways do that stuff from the command line, but it looks pretty easy, right click, choose your poison.
[08:44] <MisterQ> can't open the install/unistall programs (adept?) to install programs
[08:44] <jhutchins> MisterQ: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:44] <MisterQ> kubuntu
[08:44] <eric__> yes, I did.. altho the file is no smaller than when it was uncompressed
[08:45] <eric__> noo ? i know..
[08:45] <eric__> *noob
[08:45] <froud> jhutchins: found it, it's now called readpst
[08:45] <MisterQ> i was messing with source.list to get backport
[08:45] <jhutchins> froud: Excellent!  How did you find it?
[08:45] <jrattner> Question: How can I add animation  and "eye-candy" to my Kubuntu setup?
[08:45] <jhutchins> !easysource | MisterQ
[08:45] <defiant> ok well since I can't get flash for ff to work on a 64bit system, can someone assist me in installing wine so I can use Internet Explorer please
[08:45] <ubotu> MisterQ: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:45] <MisterQ> thanks
[08:45] <jhutchins> MisterQ: That page will generate a new source list for you.
[08:46] <jhutchins> !wine | defiant
[08:46] <ubotu> defiant: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:46] <defiant> I know that but I cannot get it installed
[08:46] <jhutchins> defiant: There are a lot of ways to cope with the fact that the 64bit windows stuff isn't ported yet, most people just run in 32 bit unless they REALLY REALLY need the 64, then they dual boot.
[08:47] <jhutchins> defiant: What's wrong with apt-get install wine?
[08:47] <defiant> I cannot install 32bit Kubuntu for somereason it will not let me
[08:48] <froud> jhutchins: I just searched for outlook
[08:48] <johny_> |movix
[08:48] <johny_> !movix
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about movix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <froud> jhutchins: I am converting an outlook pst to kmail
[08:48] <johny_> !emovix
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emovix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <jhutchins> !find emovix
[08:49] <ubotu> Package/file emovix does not exist in edgy
[08:49] <jhutchins> johny_: Looks like you're gonna have to resort to google.
[08:50] <jrattner> Question: How can I add animation  and "eye-candy" to my Kubuntu setup?
[08:51] <johny_> jhutchins: I'm not sure, just wanted to see whether is there any help of that matter
[08:52] <johny_> jhutchins: Have alittle problem withg that mini - distro "emovix
[08:52] <MisterQ> jhutchins: what do i do with the generated source list?
[08:52] <jhutchins> johny_: maybe #emovix ?
[08:53] <jhutchins> MisterQ: You need to replace the old source list with it.
[08:53] <MisterQ> *noob*...how do i do that?
[08:53] <MisterQ> type it in?
[08:53] <jhutchins> MisterQ: You can edit the source list file and copy-and-paste the text, you can save the generated text and copy it to the correct dir with correct permissions... which sounds easier to you?
[08:54] <MisterQ> copy and paste
[08:54] <juka> HI!
[08:54] <jhutchins> MisterQ: Do you have a favorite linux text editor?
[08:54] <juka> just a quick one,
[08:54] <juka> i want "sudo nvclock -f -F 25" to start with linux!
[08:54] <adydas> jeds my favourite text editor
[08:54] <juka> s I don't have to type it every time
[08:55] <adydas> !alias
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <jhutchins> juka: What does that do?
[08:55] <johny_> adydas: what are you looking for about alias
[08:55] <adydas> juka: http://www.ss64.com/bash/alias.html
[08:56] <juka> it quiets down the immensly loud nvidia graphics card
[08:56] <jhutchins> adydas: You realise that an alias still means he has to issue some command.
[08:56] <juka> anywhere from 10% to 100% fanspeed
[08:56] <jhutchins> juka: Cool.
[08:56] <johny_> !search bash
[08:56] <ubotu> Found: dash, forkbomb, bash
[08:56] <MisterQ> jhutchins; that application still will not open
[08:56] <jhutchins> juka: I would put it in the startup script myself.
[08:56] <adydas> what what i could see he was asking for a way to shorten it
[08:56] <adydas> as a command
[08:56] <jhutchins> MisterQ: Which application?
[08:57] <MisterQ> add/remove programs from the kmenu
[08:57] <jhutchins> adydas: Oh, yeah, or make a tiny script out of it, or put it in an icon.
[08:57] <juka> startup script?
[08:57] <jhutchins> MisterQ: Ok, you replace /etc/apt/sources.list with the generated file, you do apt-get update, then what?
[08:57] <juka> and, which FTP client do you reccomend?
[08:57] <adydas> he never asked how to put it as a startup script
[08:58] <jhutchins> juka: I usually either use wget or just use konqueror.
[08:58] <MisterQ> haven't updated yet
[08:58] <juka> uh... that's like in windows?
[08:59] <juka><EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[08:59] <rylasasin_> lol@windows
[08:59] <jhutchins> juka: edit /etc/init.d/rc.local, put it at the end.  You need to edit with kdesu or sudo, but you don't need the sudo on the command.
[09:00] <Dr_willis> actually not at the end... any commands need to be befor the exit 0 command. :)
[09:00] <jhutchins> juka:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[09:00] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: Is that the right place for customized commands?
[09:00] <Dr_willis> jhutchins,  depends on what the command is doing...
[09:01] <Dr_willis> setting your wallpaper, no... loading some module, or service.. yes.
[09:01] <Dr_willis> or some other tweak
[09:01] <jhutchins> Right, system commands.
[09:01] <Dr_willis> theres no need for 'sudo' and you 'might' want to end the commands with & in case they dont return
[09:01] <Dr_willis> so it depends on what the command is and what its doing.
[09:01] <juka> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/init.d/rc.local" -- using "application/*"
[09:01] <juka> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[09:02] <MisterQ> jhutchins: the applications still won't open. do i have to enable security and updates or something?
[09:02] <juka> when i type in edit /etc/init.d/rc.local
[09:02] <jhutchins> MisterQ: Did apt-get update work?
[09:02] <MisterQ> yeah
[09:02] <jhutchins> MisterQ: What error do you get?
[09:03] <MisterQ> i don't get an error. i get the hour glass and no window pops up
[09:03] <Dr_willis> !ksudo
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <Dr_willis> !kdeus
[09:03] <Dr_willis> !kdeus
[09:03] <jhutchins> juka: Heh.  edit is a mail utility, won't edit a file.
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdeus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <Dr_willis> Grr
[09:03] <Dr_willis> !kdesu
[09:03] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:03] <SlackRat> !kdesu
[09:03] <Dr_willis> juka,  so use 'kdesu edit /whatever/'
[09:04] <jhutchins> MisterQ: What is it you want to install?
[09:04] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: I don't think edit's gonna do what he wants...
[09:04] <juka> Dr_willis: "Failed to open device!"
[09:04] <juka> wtf? :(((((((
[09:04] <Dr_willis> thats from the touchpad entry in the xorg.conf
[09:04] <Dr_willis> did the editor startup?
[09:05] <juka> no :(
[09:05] <Dr_willis> I perfer console based editors - its worth wile learning how to use one
[09:05] <ksnipa> I just installed superkaramba when I run any themes I get a black place holder instead of seeing the applet
[09:05] <MisterQ> flash for the browser, divx and xvid to view videos off a dvd
[09:05] <ksnipa> any ideas?
[09:05] <Dr_willis> sudo nano /etc/rc.local
[09:05] <Dr_willis> or whatever it is.
[09:06] <jhutchins> juka: Do you know what a text editor is?
[09:06] <Dr_willis> or install mc, and use mcedit
[09:06] <juka> notepad? :)
[09:06] <juka> kwrite i guess
[09:06] <jhutchins> juka: There are dozens in linux.
[09:06] <SlackRat> kate
[09:06] <SlackRat> kedit
[09:06] <SlackRat> pico
[09:06] <jhutchins> kate works - kdesu kate /etc/init.d/rc.local
[09:06] <SlackRat> or is it nano in kubuntu?
[09:07] <jhutchins> SlackRat: Both
[09:07] <juka> uh... i just wrote kwrite and it opened a text editor
[09:07] <jhutchins> vi, emacs
[09:07] <juka> should i use kdesu kwrite /etc...
[09:07] <juka> ?
[09:07] <jhutchins> juka: Right, but you want the other command.
[09:07] <SlackRat> i figured out the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu.....
[09:07] <jhutchins> juka: yes.  kdesu sayd "do it as root".
[09:07] <juka> what about sudo then?
[09:07] <jhutchins> Passing the file name saves having to brows for it.
[09:07] <SlackRat> not for gui apps
[09:07] <jhutchins> sudo is only for command line applications.
[09:08] <jhutchins> running GUI apps with sudo can kill your system.
[09:08] <MisterQ> jhutchins: can i just install another package manager like synaptics? or something
[09:08] <juka> uhhhhh... it opened the editor but now it says failed to open device and i cannot get to write commands anymore
[09:08] <jhutchins> MisterQ: Well, you already have a perfectly good command line package manager.
[09:08] <Dr_willis> jhutchins,  you SURE its not /etc/rc.local ? it sure seems to be /etc/rc.local here....
[09:09] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: Seems like I have both.
[09:09] <Dr_willis> jhutchins,  you are having him edit the init script.. not the rc.local file that gets ran. :)
[09:09] <SlackRat> or, go thru the graphical screens from home up to / find etc, open it, open the file you want to edit and find the menu action 'edit as root'
[09:09] <Dr_willis> you want commands in /etc/rc.local
[09:09] <jhutchins> juka: Probably the one you want to edit is /etc/rc.local, not the other one.
[09:09] <SlackRat> which will get you acquainted with your file sytem
[09:09] <juka> :)
[09:09] <moises> hey guys. I want to get rid of all the data related to amarok - like, my collection list and such. but there's no ~/.amarok folder. how do i do it
[09:10] <jhutchins> Sorry, I come from another linux univers.
[09:10] <Dr_willis> moises,  its in the .kde dir somewhere
[09:10] <SlackRat> which one hutchins?
[09:10] <jhutchins> Redhat/Mandriva(SuSE).
[09:10] <moises> thanks
[09:10] <jrattner> Question: how do i install an icon theme that i download from KDE look
[09:10] <moises> noob question - where is the .kde folder
[09:10] <SlackRat> ah, yeah the edit as root option ive only noticed on kubuntu
[09:11] <MadRush> if you have a swap partition activated, should it show up when you do a 'dh'?
[09:11] <Dr_willis> !themes
[09:11] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:11] <SlackRat> locate .kde
[09:11] <Dr_willis> check out !changethemes
[09:11] <Dr_willis> .kde is in you rusers home dir
[09:11] <jhutchins> apt-get --purge remove packagename - removes a installed package (configfiles will also be removed)
[09:12] <jrattner> !changethemes
[09:12] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[09:12] <Dr_willis> --purge will NOT remove config files in the users home dirs.
[09:13] <blue|palm> Does anybody here have experience building the OGRE library version (1.2.5 DAGON) on kubuntu edgy?
[09:13] <Dr_willis> never heard of it blue|palm
[09:13] <Dr_willis> having some specific problem? we may be able to help
[09:13] <moises> nothing in this folder
[09:13] <moises> related to amarok at least
[09:14] <Dr_willis> all kde programs keep their settings and stuff some where in the nested maze of .kde
[09:14] <singinmatt13> hey, a while ago when i would log in to kubuntu (edgy) it would loop back to kdm.  NOW when i log in it brings up a session of konsole without any window
[09:15] <Dr_willis> try renaming .kde to somthing else.. and see :) if amarok is one of the odd ones it might not store things there... but that would be real real odd.
[09:15] <SlackRat> i figured out the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu.....
[09:15] <Dr_willis> ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok$
[09:16] <Dr_willis> right where i figured it would be. :)
[09:16] <Dr_willis> SlackRat,  one has kde one has gnome? :)
[09:16] <moises> found it =)
[09:16] <jrattner> Question: does mail-notification work in KDE as well as gnome?
[09:16] <SlackRat> well besides that
[09:16] <SlackRat> kubuntu is so much cooler than ubuntu  :-P
[09:18] <kay> hi everyone
[09:18] <singinmatt13> i'll say it again.  a while ago when i would log in to kubuntu (edgy) it would loop back to kdm.  NOW when i log in it brings up a session of konsole without any window
[09:18] <binks_> singinmatt13: have you no x at all
[09:19] <singinmatt13> well kdm runs so i'd assume x is running
[09:19] <binks_> singinmatt13: try typeing startx at the console
[09:19] <binks_> arr ok sorry
[09:19] <kay> Could anybody help me here please? I have s strange problem with my keyboard. And I don't know what to do with.
[09:20] <binks_> kay: whats the prob
[09:20] <kay> I have USB keyboard
[09:20] <eXistenZ> Where can I find posted screenshots of kubuntu desktops?
[09:20] <binks_> singinmatt13: how did you install kdm
[09:20] <kay> And it's not working at all
[09:20] <Dr_willis> eXistenZ,  try kubuntu.org ?
[09:20] <Dr_willis> eXistenZ,  or kde-look.org
[09:20] <kay> I tried some things found i forums, they are not working
[09:21] <caris_mere> Kontact gives me an error when starting up (first time it's been started), signal 11 SIGSEGV
[09:21] <binks_> !keyboard | kay
[09:21] <ubotu> kay: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:21] <singinmatt13> binks_: that was when i originally installed kub edgy through the alternate install cd
[09:21] <jrattner> How do i get a program to start with every kde session?
[09:21] <Dr_willis> kay,  you are refering to a normal usb keyboard?
[09:21] <Dr_willis> jrattner,  .kde/Autostart dir.. make some links in there.. or scripts
[09:21] <kay> no, let me explain
[09:21] <kay> it is usual USB keyboard
[09:21] <kay> and the prblem is that I maged it to work
[09:21] <kay> but after ligin
[09:22] <jrattner> Dr_willis, can i just drag an icon into that folder?
[09:22] <Dr_willis> jrattner,  it can take .desktop files also.. try it and see.
[09:22] <kay> it is not working on ligin screen neither in console
[09:22] <jrattner> Dr_willis, do i want to copy or link there? or does it not matter
[09:22] <Dr_willis> jrattner,  but most kde apps 'should' rember/save the session   and restart
[09:22] <binks_> singinmatt13: sorry i dont use the alt cd install but you could try changing session type
[09:22] <kay> a have usbhid loaded at startup, but no change
[09:22] <Dr_willis> jrattner,  dont think it matters
[09:23] <singinmatt13> binks_: tried
[09:23] <Dr_willis> kay,  you got it working 'somehow' then on the next reboot.. it failed to work?
[09:23] <singinmatt13> binks_: it's a kde problem
[09:23] <singinmatt13> binks_: it may have to do w/ permissions
[09:23] <binks_> so remove and reinstall kde
[09:23] <kay> no, it works everytime, after sucesful login
[09:23] <jrattner> Dr_willis, Last question, how can I make my session lock when I close my laptop screen
[09:23] <eXistenZ> binks_, What font do you use in KDE?
[09:24] <kay> that's mean after KDE loadup
[09:24] <Dr_willis> jrattner,  no idea.. i hate that feature. :)
[09:24] <Dr_willis> jrattner,  to be honest.. i thought that was the default.. whichis why i hated it.
[09:24] <binks_> eXistenZ: i run theme manager why
[09:24] <jrattner> hmmm
[09:24] <binks_> i cant remember the font
[09:24] <kay> I don't know why, but i seems, that USB is not powerup, but after login it starts
[09:24] <eXistenZ> binks_, beryl?
[09:25] <singinmatt13> binks_: not an option at the moment
[09:25] <binks_> eXistenZ: yes beryl
[09:25] <binks_> but not xgl
[09:25] <moises> one more question guys. I want to change my keyboard system to one that works with portuguese - with accents, and all that
[09:26] <singinmatt13> binks_: would it help you to know that the fglrx module won't load?
[09:26] <binks_> singinmatt13: what error you getting
[09:26] <binks_> singinmatt13: which ati card you got
[09:26] <Dr_willis> kay,  im missing somthing here.. how do you login with no keyboard?
[09:26] <kay> switch to ps/2 keyboard
[09:26] <kay> then put it back as USB
[09:27] <kay> it's not very comfortable
[09:27] <fritz> hey I installed easyubuntu and I get nothing
[09:27] <Dr_willis> leave them both plugged in and see what happens.
[09:27] <BluesKaj> !pt>moises
[09:27] <Dr_willis> easyubuntu is not a good idea. :)
[09:27] <singinmatt13> binks_: "FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx"
[09:27] <fritz> what do I do from there
[09:27] <underdog5004> surgy, it didn't work...again
[09:27] <Dr_willis> kay,  could also try different usb ports.
[09:27] <BluesKaj> !pt > moises
[09:27] <binks_> singinmatt13: what tutorial did u follow for fglrx install
[09:27] <Dr_willis> fritz,  read about easyubuntu at the easyubuntu web site?  or perhaps #easyubuntu
[09:28] <Dr_willis> #easyubuntu
[09:28] <Dr_willis> !easyubuntu
[09:28] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[09:28] <kay> I tried that
[09:28] <kay> no change
[09:28] <singinmatt13> binks_: radeon xpress 200M and.....i'm not remembering at the moment on the tut
[09:28] <fritz> forgot about the channel
[09:28] <xenol> if i have "ati" driver installed can i run beryl, xgl or aiglx?
[09:28] <fritz> thenks
[09:28] <moises> hm - unfortunately, my portuguese isn't great, but i'll look into that, thanks
[09:28] <binks_> xenol: yes i do
[09:28] <xenol> binks_:  and which one
[09:29] <jrattner> Does Anyone know how to make my screen lock when I close my lap top lid
[09:29] <Dr_willis> kay,  on this box.. the USB keybaords dont work for me in GRUB but they do work in the bios screen, and once linux starts. :) so i got a ps2 keyboard also.
[09:29] <binks_> xenol: beryl and if i can be arsed to start it xgl
[09:29] <xenol> binks_:  i have a bit older gpu
[09:29] <Dr_willis> jrattner,  there are some laptop specific packages that may enable that fgeature. or check the ubuntu/kubuntu forums/wiki pages. they have a section on laptops
[09:29] <binks_> !ati | singinmatt13
[09:29] <ubotu> singinmatt13: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <xenol> binks_:  will beryl run with no problem on radeon 9600 pro?
[09:29] <Dr_willis> jrattner,  last i checked on my laptop. i close the lid. it then asks for a password to get back in.
[09:30] <jrattner> hmm weird
[09:30] <binks_> xenol: i have a 9600 xt
[09:30] <Dr_willis> jrattner,  and i hate the feature. :)
[09:30] <kay> Dr_willis: I think about it, but it is no solution
[09:30] <BluesKaj> singinmatt13, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b
[09:30] <Dr_willis> jrattner,  but THEN i noticed that suspend actually started working on that laptop. weee.
[09:30] <singinmatt13> binks_: that's the tut i used
[09:30] <Dr_willis> kay,  check the dmesg logs befor/after the keyboard starts working.
[09:30] <jrattner> heheh
[09:30] <xenol> binks_:  did u installed binary drivers?
[09:31] <FordPrefect_NZ> yo. anyone know if its possible to disable the MOTD from showing in konversation? thx in advance :)
[09:31] <binks_> singinmatt13:  try th one BluesKaj posted
[09:31] <binks_> xenol: yes i have fglrx fron ati
[09:31] <kay> Dr_willis: could you please give me advice where they are located?
[09:31] <adydas> Bloody newzealanders
[09:31] <kay> thanks
[09:31] <singinmatt13> that may not even be the problem
[09:31] <Dr_willis> kay,  use the 'dmesg' command :)
[09:31] <binks_> no but it may be singinmatt13
[09:31] <Dr_willis> dmesg, plug in the thing.. dmesg again and look at the end.
[09:32] <singinmatt13> binks_: shall try
[09:32] <binks_> singinmatt13: allways fix whats broken first then look for gremlins
[09:32] <kuhni> hallo
[09:32] <xenol> binks_:  did u have any probs with installing it?
[09:33] <kay> I'll try it, thanks. But I still don't get why USB si activating after ogin, and not during boot
[09:33] <Dr_willis> kay,  you do realize that the kdm screen shows up.. and some things are STILL actually strating up in the background. wait a min or so and see if it kicks in?
[09:33] <Dr_willis> they do it that way so the system 'seems' to boot faster. :)
[09:34] <kay> yes, I wait for a while, but no effect
[09:34] <Dr_willis> could boot to the console mode. (no kdm) and see if it works after a bit.
[09:34] <kay> but I try to reebot and try it again
[09:34] <[R] eaper> i need help with my vga card :(
[09:34] <Dr_willis> it may be X is somehow kicking it in the head to activate
[09:34] <binks_> xenol: yes i had to delete the lines that ref to wacom drivers
[09:34] <kay> Dr_willes: in console there is the same problem
[09:35] <xenol> binks_: was it difficult to do it?
[09:35] <binks_> no very easy xenol
[09:35] <kay> Dr_willis:  it doesn't work, but after login it works
[09:35] <Dr_willis> kay,  i would be checking dmesg for any interesting issues..
[09:35] <xenol> binks_:  so u just edited xorg.conf
[09:35] <binks_> xenol: yes
[09:35] <kay> ok I am on it
[09:35] <binks_> about 6 lines to delete
[09:35] <shawarma> Hi! If you want to edit a file as root under Kubuntu, how do you do it? "sudo some-kde-editor /foo/bar" from a terminal, perhaps?
[09:35] <kay> but I need resrt
[09:35] <kay> restart :)
[09:35] <xenol> binks_:  and in case i do smth wrong is it enough to do sudo reconfigure xorg.conf?
[09:36] <kay> brb
[09:36] <Dr_willis> that would be REAL REAL odd if you had to login: through the console with 1 keybord.. THEN the other  starts working  in the console.
[09:36] <jrattner> What is the command to reconfigure X? sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xor?
[09:36] <jrattner> or something?
[09:36] <binks_> shawarma: sudo kate file/path
[09:36] <shawarma> jrattner: No space between dpkg and -reconfigure
[09:36] <xenol> shawarma:  kdesu kate /foo/bar
[09:36] <shawarma> binks_: kate is the canonical editor?
[09:36] <shawarma> binks_, xenol: Thanks!
[09:36] <mzanfardino> I've recently installed kubuntu 6.10 and I'm using a dual-head video adapter (nvidia gfx 5600).  I've configured my login account to load each of my two monitors with it's own desktop (as opposed to a twin-view configuration).  I want both desktops to have the identical KDE layout.  How do I achieve this?
[09:36] <SlackRat> kdesu kate etc....since youre firing up a gui editor
[09:36] <binks_> shawarma: ? i dont no its just there
[09:37] <xenol> binks_:  can u give me web where i can see how to install flgrx driver plox
[09:37] <[R] eaper> Dr_willis: please take a look at this http://www.4shared.com/file/10843337/21397191/Archive.html
[09:37] <SlackRat> or there is a function on the menu, if you want to go the gui window you wish to edit and open he folder and click on action/ edit as root
[09:37] <binks_> !ati | xenol
[09:37] <ubotu> xenol: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:37] <duckdown> Hey all... How can I foce a program that doesn't have built-in SOCKS firewall support to route all of its traffic through mine?  Like I have a SOCKS proxy listening on localhost:1234 , but Opera web browser has no SOCKS support (lame.)  I seem to remember a program like 'socksify' or something that you can prefix the program you want to run with.. (It's not socksify though, cause I installed it and the manpage shows nothing like tha
[09:37] <[R] eaper> my vga just doesnt work right
[09:37] <duckdown> t)
[09:37] <xenol> binks_:  thx
[09:38] <maersk> what is the comand line  for unrar ?
[09:38] <xenol> maersk:  man unrar
[09:38] <Dr_willis> [R] eaper,  care to give me a summary? :) i dont want to go see some  alt.binary.nurse.erotica  pics.. :)
[09:38] <Dr_willis> !unrar
[09:38] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:38] <maersk> what is the comand line  for unrar ?
[09:38] <binks_> unrar e my/file maersk
[09:38] <Dr_willis> !unp
[09:38] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[09:38] <Dr_willis> or unrar X i think.. or is it i x
[09:38] <[R] eaper> Dr_willis: xorg.conf , Xorg.0.log kern.log
[09:38] <Dr_willis> when in doubt read the docs.. :)
[09:39] <singinmatt13> binks_: i noticed that most of the stuff in the tutorial did nothing, as in most of it had already been done.  i still can't log in fully, and fglrx still won't load.
[09:39] <Dr_willis> [R] eaper,  dident want to put them on a pastebin site?
[09:39] <[R] eaper> what is that?? :S
[09:39] <binks_> singinmatt13: whats in the xorg log
[09:40] <singinmatt13> binks_: also the output of fglrxinfo shows a bunch of info about mesa3d and nothign about ati anything
[09:40] <singinmatt13> binks_: file path to that log?
[09:40] <binks_> singinmatt13: we need to fglrx working is fglrx listed in xorg.conf
[09:41] <binks_> !locate | singinmatt13
[09:41] <Dr_willis> !pastebin
[09:41] <binks_> ok i didnt work
[09:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <binks_> singinmatt13: /etc/X11/xorg.
[09:42] <singinmatt13> binks_: inside "Section "Module"" ?
[09:42] <binks_> just a sec its been a while
[09:42] <[R] eaper> ok, there is my xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6448/
[09:43] <singinmatt13> binks_: there is glx inside the Modules section and an fglrx in the Device section
[09:43] <singinmatt13> the one in Device is labeled Driver
[09:44] <binks_> singinmatt13: that seems ok just gis a sec
[09:44] <binks_> [R] eaper: remind me xorg.log is
[09:45] <[R] eaper> xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6450/
[09:45] <Tm_T> !root
[09:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:45] <Tm_T> Hmm, not that.
[09:46] <Tm_T> root: Anyway, you shouldn't irc as root.
[09:47] <xenol> binks_:  and wat shoudl i install XGL od AIGLX?
[09:47] <binks_> xenol: i havent tried aiglx
[09:47] <xenol> binks_:  so only xgl
[09:47] <singinmatt13> binks_: am rebooting as it says to because fglrxinfo came out bad
[09:47] <xenol> binks_:  well xgl = beryl ?
[09:48] <binks_> !windowmanager
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windowmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <binks_> !xgl | xenol
[09:48] <ubotu> xenol: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:48] <SlackRat> TM, some channels even kick you if you log in as root, might be an idea to use here, with the warning, you have signed in as root, please log back into this channel as user.....
[09:48] <binks_> xenol: not quite no
[09:48] <xenol> binks_:  well any difference between xgl and beryl?
[09:48] <Dr_willis> I think it should be a server thing.. :)
[09:49] <binks_> xenol: different thing
[09:49] <binks_> altogether
[09:49] <Dr_willis> but the users that irc as root.. are not smart enough normally to realize what they are doing thats 'wrong'
[09:49] <binks_> berly is a theme manager xgl is a window manager
[09:49] <SlackRat> thats why some channels kick you with the explicit instructions how dangerous it is and please retry as non root
[09:50] <dwidmann> binks_ not quite
[09:50] <SlackRat> it happens on some distros where there is a root acct and you're just not thinking atm
[09:50] <dwidmann> xgl is an x server, beryl is a window manager, emerald is a theme manager
[09:50] <binks_> dwidmann: sorry my knowledge is small in this field

[09:51] <binks_> dwidmann: so xgl replaces xorg ??
[09:51] <linuxworld> hello im trying to burn a iso of a live distro whit k3b but i get error every time i use 4 x and tryied tao and sao the checksum corrispond so what's wrong?
[09:51] <SlackRat> wow, this is such a sane channel compared to the monster sized #ubuntu...heh
[09:51] <dwidmann> yes and  no ... the gist I got out of it is that xgl is basically a hacked Xorg running overtop of opengl ...
[09:52] <Dr_willis> SlackRat,  thats why i hang here more.
[09:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:52] <dwidmann> I think XGL requires Xorg really
[09:52] <linuxworld> can u help me whit k3b?
[09:52] <SlackRat> :D
[09:52] <binks_> dwidmann: just to confuse me even more
[09:52] <binks_> :):)
[09:52] <SlackRat> whats wrong with K3b?
[09:52] <phobiac> is there anything that can notify me of new mail (that also works with gmail?) I don't want a full email client, just something that tells me when I have a new mail.
[09:52] <xenol> oh thx
[09:53] <phobiac> + It would be awesome if it could check multiple accounts.
[09:53] <xenol> i g2g bb
[09:53] <binks_> !k3b | SlackRat
[09:53] <ubotu> SlackRat: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[09:53] <dwidmann> binks: I know,  it confuses me a little too, until I sit back, read for hours on end, and think about it.
[09:53] <SlackRat> binks, that wasnt a question, someone else hoad a quieston
[09:53] <binks_> dwidmann: lol nice one
[09:53] <linuxworld> im trying to burn the iso of pclinuxos 2007 whit k3b but gives me error every time whit both tao and sao i use 4x and checksum are same can u help?
[09:53] <binks_> SlackRat: sorry
[09:53] <SlackRat> np
[09:54] <binks_> linuxworld: are the discs ok
[09:54] <dwidmann> linuxworld: what error?
[09:54] <SlackRat> linuxworld, have you burned with it before without problems?
[09:55] <linuxworld> no it's 1 time i use it on mandriva
[09:55] <binks_> linuxworld: which distro you on at the moment
[09:55] <singinmatt13> binks_: no luck...i changed the Composite in xorg.conf to false instead of 0, and i rebooted.  maybe it will work
[09:55] <Dr_willis> i thought false = 0
[09:55] <binks_> singinmatt13: wait a sec
[09:56] <linuxworld> mandriva binks
[09:56] <linuxworld> can u help?
[09:57] <linuxworld> the powerpack 2007
[09:57] <SlackRat> you may have to run the K3b setup program if there is one on the DrakMenus
[09:58] <linuxworld> hurraaaaaaaaaa
[09:58] <linuxworld> solved it's doing it whit RAW
[09:58] <linuxworld> let's hope everything goes right lucky i have cdrw
[09:58] <linuxworld> so can make mistakes
[09:58] <SlackRat> heh
[09:58] <linuxworld> are u slackrat from matt's chan?
[09:58] <SlackRat> matts as in pcbsd?
[09:59] <linuxworld> yes
[09:59] <linuxworld> hehe it's me my friend
[09:59] <linuxworld> distro
[09:59] <SlackRat> yup
[09:59] <SlackRat> cool
[09:59] <SlackRat> great distro they put out
[10:00] <Dr_willis> well bbl
[10:00] <binks_> SlackRat: remove the wacom bits from xorg.conf
[10:00] <binks_> night all csi comin on
[10:00] <binks_> SlackRat: sorry
[10:01] <Zorix> hey everyone.. i just installed kubuntu again after a long time and ive noticed that after i installed nvidia binary drivers and beryl that when i installed ut2004 linux it runs terrible.. and it wasnt like this before.. any idea where i should look to speed it up
[10:01] <SlackRat> you should actually make sure the tab completion has the right name, lol
[10:01] <binks_> singinmatt13: remove the wacom bits from xorg.conf
[10:01] <linuxworld> im about to pass to pclinuxos 2007 slack it's the best for my advise
[10:01] <SlackRat> its nice to start on, but i got bored in day or so....good starter distro
[10:02] <SlackRat> less confusing than drake , but with many of the same features
[10:02] <jhutchins> Zorix: beryl is very alpha, very unstable, and very resource intensive.   Obrigado.
[10:07] <SlackRat> depends on what you want from your distro
[10:07] <SlackRat> i used mandriva a few years back
[10:07] <SlackRat> hated their whole members get special treatment marketing
[10:07] <BluesKaj> mandriva didn't do much for me
[10:08] <SlackRat> it was quick and configurable more than redhat at the time
[10:08] <BluesKaj> got a pirated copy of the enterprise edition of mandriva from an enthusiast but not my cuppa tea
[10:08] <SlackRat> compiled to a 586 arch
[10:10] <SlackRat> did someone just enter as root, or is that just the nick?
[10:11] <linuxworld> u advise me slack to try k3b right the only secure way to brun stuff whit it?
[10:12] <LjL> SlackRat: probablt did.
[10:12] <SlackRat> secure?
[10:12] <SlackRat> i thought you just burned something?
[10:12] <Schuenemann> I just installed edgy and I'm getting this alert box all the time: Sound server fatal error: cpu overloading, aborting
[10:13] <Schuenemann> what is that?
[10:13] <SlackRat> change your sound server
[10:13] <SlackRat> its a kde bug usually
[10:13] <Schuenemann> how?
[10:13] <Schuenemann> I had dapper installed hours ago and it was fine
[10:13] <singinmatt13> binks_: i did what you said, and you've officially screwed over my laptop
[10:13] <singinmatt13> so...i'm reinstalling
[10:13] <SlackRat> try alsaconf if its in kbuntu, and use alsa or open
[10:14] <SlackRat> its set on default atm? the soundserver?
[10:14] <eXistenZ> binks_, what is your cpu temp?
[10:14] <Schuenemann> I don't know
[10:14] <Schuenemann> I just installed it
[10:14] <Schuenemann> how do I check?
[10:14] <SlackRat> go to the control center under sound
[10:15] <SlackRat> sound & mulitmedia
[10:15] <SlackRat> brb getting coffee
[10:15] <Schuenemann> is it sound system?
[10:17] <atidem> hello
[10:18] <Schuenemann> SlackRat, you there?
[10:19] <SlackRat> yea
[10:19] <Schuenemann> system config > sound system ?
[10:19] <SlackRat> yes
[10:19] <Schuenemann> then what?
[10:19] <SlackRat> its on default under hardware?
[10:20] <Schuenemann> the first combo? says autodetect
[10:20] <SlackRat> sorry thats what i meant, im not on kubuntu atm
[10:20] <SlackRat> try alsa
[10:21] <SlackRat> apply, try the test sound in the first panel then
[10:21] <Schuenemann> very slow :/
[10:22] <slow-motion> n8
[10:22] <SlackRat> yeah, buntu is the slowest distro im running atm
[10:22] <Schuenemann> what is atm?
[10:22] <SlackRat> kubuntu......its the slowest distro on my boxen
[10:23] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: At The Moment
[10:23] <Schuenemann> try suse, then :p
[10:23] <SlackRat> atm, heh
[10:23] <Schuenemann> ahh...
[10:23] <eXistenZ> Can anyone suggest me a neat minimalistic KDE theme?
[10:23] <SlackRat> but suse is slower with less pkgs
[10:23] <Schuenemann> oh my god... I think it hanged
[10:25] <SlackRat> did you get the scroll bar progress
[10:25] <SlackRat> when starting alsa?   does buntu even come with alsa-utils, i forgot
[10:25] <Schuenemann> the system config window hangs
[10:26] <SlackRat> *which* system config?
[10:27] <Schuenemann> the window
[10:27] <Schuenemann> hanged then I clicked 'test'
[10:28] <SlackRat> you cant even reset or press a button like test?
[10:28] <Schuenemann> what do you mean?
[10:29] <SlackRat> hangs.....it doesnt do anything, its frozen? im not psychic and i cant see your screen
[10:29] <Schuenemann> yeah, frozen... I killed it
[10:30] <SlackRat> so its gone?
[10:30] <Schuenemann> yes
[10:30] <SlackRat> good
[10:30] <SlackRat> did you have sound before it crashed on you with the cpu warning?
[10:31] <Schuenemann> no, it's a brand new installation
[10:31] <soulrider> !webcam
[10:31] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:31] <Schuenemann> no I "always" had this error
[10:31] <Schuenemann> so*
[10:31] <SlackRat> did it make the login sounds
[10:31] <Schuenemann> I don't know, I wasn't using the headphones hehe
[10:32] <SlackRat> hmn, go to a command line and sudo alsaconf
[10:33] <Schuenemann> I'm doing an adept update now, will that matteR?
[10:33] <SlackRat> it shouldnt
[10:33] <Schuenemann> alsaconf not found
[10:33] <Schuenemann> command*
[10:34] <SlackRat> ok, now, what system did you install and what are you updating to?
[10:34] <Schuenemann> I installed kubuntu 6.10 edgy and the update is just a normal update
[10:35] <Schuenemann> it is the first time I log
[10:35] <Schuenemann> log in*
[10:35] <SlackRat> ok.....i d let it finish, since im not sure what all its installing and updating
[10:35] <innovati> so is there a way to go to a double-click desktop?  I can't STAND single click icons
[10:35] <SlackRat> then, alsa is a pretty good sound utility for linux......when its done, use syanptic and install alsa packages.....
[10:35] <Schuenemann> openoffice, xorg, libgtkdnsutils, etc
[10:35] <soulrider> does anyone here use a webcam? i connected mine and with camorama i can see it works, but the image is really weird, black and white with white blocks everywhere
[10:36] <soulrider> innovati: yes, you can change to double click
[10:36] <SlackRat> kde control center peripherals mouse, and change to single click
[10:36] <SlackRat> or double click
[10:36] <Schuenemann> innovati, system config > mouse
[10:36] <innovati> under mouse! aha, it wasn't there on other distros
[10:36] <SlackRat> install alsa, alsa-utils....
[10:36] <Schuenemann> I selected alsa as you told me to
[10:36] <SlackRat> alsa driver......
[10:37] <SlackRat> when they install you should be able to run alsaconf and it will find and start up your sound card
[10:37] <innovati> I must say, I'll bbiab but Kubuntu is the best distro I've ever installed so far!
[10:37] <Schuenemann> ok, I'll try
[10:37] <Schuenemann> this is a long update... *sigh*
[10:37] <SlackRat> also look at kmix and make sure your volumes are up high enough
[10:38] <SlackRat> but the main problem is getting away from the sound driver that gives that nasty cpu abort error
[10:38] <Schuenemann> yes
[10:38] <SlackRat> so alsa, or my second is often OpenSound System
[10:39] <SlackRat> trying alsaconf, and autodetect, if others give me that warning, which lets the system auto detect the right one......however that seems to be the problem atm
[10:40] <SlackRat> theres about four main alsa pkgs you can get from synaptic
[10:40] <Schuenemann> dapper auto detected
[10:40] <Schuenemann> it is strange edy didn't
[10:40] <SlackRat> dont worry about all of them , some are for other sound drivers to work with alsa
[10:40] <SlackRat> edgy is called edgy for a reason , but it seems this is a common kde bug
[10:41] <SlackRat> which they hope to replace with 4.0 but getting rid of artswrapper and  arts....thank god
[10:41] <SlackRat> artsd, imo, sucks
[10:43] <Schuenemann> still 46%
[10:43] <Schuenemann> my connection isn't fast
[10:44] <SlackRat> kmix volumes are up and unmuted?
[10:44] <Schuenemann> yes
[10:44] <SlackRat> speakers plugged in?
[10:44] <SlackRat> volume up/
[10:44] <Schuenemann> yep
[10:44] <drew3> Hi Folks I'd like to start fresh with apt-get, But-->>Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[10:44] <Schuenemann> that too
[10:44] <SlackRat> is adept updating kde as well?
[10:45] <Schuenemann> I don't think so
[10:45] <SlackRat> rootkits! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
[10:45] <Schuenemann> I didn't check exacly what was the update, it was a lot of stuff
[10:45] <tjz> skreech u here?
[10:45] <Schuenemann> normal for a new installation
[10:46] <SlackRat> yeah, i use drake and have to upgrade to drake <IP_ADDRESS> every time i wanna reinstall
[10:46] <SlackRat> cause its a three desktop dvd
[10:46] <SlackRat> takes a while
[10:46] <Schuenemann> 253 MB
[10:46] <SlackRat> you could try the test sound , while waiting.......
[10:46] <SlackRat> see if plays a logon them
[10:46] <SlackRat> theme
[10:46] <Schuenemann> I tried, it hanged
[10:46] <Schuenemann> I'll do it again
[10:47] <SlackRat> hmn, that shouldnt hang it, unless you changed another setting before it
[10:47] <Schuenemann> the error message stopped popping, though
[10:47] <Schuenemann> while I was installed it popped a lot
[10:47] <Schuenemann> installing*
[10:48] <SlackRat> or you could google the warning message edgy kde sound
[10:48] <mlalkaka> hi everyone
[10:48] <SlackRat> see if its commonly reported
[10:48] <Schuenemann> I'll let the update end
[10:49] <SlackRat> yeah, see whats on google in the meantime and the kubuntu or ubuntu forum pages
[10:49] <mlalkaka> i'm trying to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu. i've installed the kubuntu-desktop package. how do i uninstall all the ubuntu-desktop stuff that i don't need now?
[10:49] <assasukasse> hi everyone
[10:49] <assasukasse> is there anyone who has tried both gnome and kde?
[10:49] <SlackRat> let synaptic remove the pkg ubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <SlackRat> tho i t will take some pkgs with it no doubt
[10:50] <SlackRat> hi assaukasse...yes
[10:50] <assasukasse> SlackRat why u eventually choose kde
[10:50] <mlalkaka> assasukasse: i have
[10:50] <assasukasse> mlalkaka same question :D
[10:51] <assasukasse> im an ubuntu gnome user, but i am not satisfied
[10:51] <SlackRat> i alsways choose kde, imo its more efficient has more configuration options and is generally a bit faster on most of my machines
[10:51] <Schuenemann> kde is slower for me
[10:51] <Schuenemann> but gnome is too ugly
[10:51] <SlackRat> i tend to agree with torvalds, gnome likes to dumb things down and simplify and it takes your choices away
[10:52] <assasukasse> i dunno why kde is slower for me...but i don't want to go to xfce
[10:52] <mlalkaka> do any of you know a way to easily remove all the unnecessary ubuntu-desktop dependencies?
[10:52] <SlackRat> i depends on your box among other things......but you can tweak a bit for speed but not running unnecessary services
[10:53] <assasukasse> also, the problem is that i have a laptop centrino 1.4Ghz, with kde im always using more cpu, and more ram, so wasting more batteries
[10:53] <SlackRat> i wouldnt remove too much outsideo of the -desktop, lots of apps you like may use the Gtk tools that gnome builds on
[10:53] <juka> guys... which bandwidth limiter should I use? i need something like net-limiter to slow down Linux DC++
[10:53] <SlackRat> lots of great apps from gnome development.....keep the libs and things they dont take much room
[10:53] <assasukasse> juka netlimiter doesn't work, they will kick u out
[10:54] <juka> well... yeah, I figured, but is there anything similar to netlimter?
[10:54] <mae> how stable is the latest prerelease
[10:55] <assasukasse> juka they will easily find u are limiting the band and kick you out, they run bot, in 20 mins or less u will be banned...
[10:55] <SlackRat> start with just removing the gnome-desktop, and see how many pkgs it takes with it before you apply the changes
[10:55] <morpheus__> shame
[10:55] <juka> huh?
[10:55] <juka> i need to limit my download from 8PM till 1AM !!!
[10:55] <juka> MY download
[10:55] <assasukasse> ah
[10:55] <juka> what bot? which band?
[10:56] <Lynoure> assasukasse: Who are "they"?
[10:56] <assasukasse> Lynoure most of the time ppl want to limit their upload band on dc++ so the owners of the channel runs bot to check it
[10:56] <assasukasse> if they catch you with a band limiter they kick u out
[10:56] <Schuenemann> SlackRat, what is your connection speed?
[10:56] <assasukasse> but in juka's case maybe no
[10:57] <juka> this is an internal network
[10:57] <assasukasse> juka is no option for that in linux dc
[10:57] <assasukasse> ?
[10:57] <juka> no, there is no that option
[10:57] <juka> there is one in StrongDC++ in windows...
[10:57] <juka> it works like a charm, but here :(
[10:57] <juka> uh i hate windows :)
[10:58] <assasukasse> juka then i cant help i have no knowledge of any band limiter in linux
[10:58] <assasukasse> juka u could try to run strongdc in wine
[10:58] <juka> :/
[10:58] <juka> wine?
[10:58] <assasukasse> yea windows emulation
[10:58] <juka> win-emulator hm?
[10:58] <juka> :)
[10:59] <Tm_T> It's not emulator ;)
[10:59] <Tm_T> Only interface
[10:59] <assasukasse> you are right
[10:59] <juka> uh-huh, and how do i use it?
[10:59] <assasukasse> wine: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[10:59] <Tm_T> Just "wine firefox" for example.
[11:00] <Schuenemann> why would he wine firefox?
[11:00] <assasukasse> install the package and call the exe by putting wine in front of it
[11:00] <Tm_T> It was example.
[11:00] <juka> i have the strong.exe installed on the windows partition
[11:00] <juka> what should i change it to?
[11:00] <assasukasse> juka i would do this
[11:00] <assasukasse> install wine package
[11:01] <assasukasse> issue wineprefixcreate
[11:01] <assasukasse> copy the strong installer to your home dire
[11:01] <assasukasse> issue wine installer.exe from bash
[11:02] <assasukasse> then follow the info like u were on wine
[11:02] <assasukasse> windows not wine :D
[11:02] <juka> um...
[11:02] <juka> i don't get it 0:)
[11:03] <juka> i just tried opening the strong.exe by clicking on it, amazing, it didn't work :-o
[11:03] <assasukasse> juka did u install wine package?
[11:03] <Schuenemann> it will be amazing if you find a program that works nice with wine
[11:03] <assasukasse> shareaza works fine
[11:04] <jhutchins> I run quicken in wine all the time, have for years.
[11:04] <assasukasse> mirc works perfectly, in fact i am using mirc under wine
[11:04] <Schuenemann> well, you don't need shareaza
[11:04] <juka> i'm installing it now
[11:04] <Schuenemann> mirc perfectly? you're forcing
[11:04] <juka> actually, downloading
[11:04] <assasukasse> Schuenemann tell me any G2 apps in linux
[11:04] <jhutchins> It's a split install, the exe and data are on the server, but it relies in some stuff it installed on my old w95 system, which I mount as wine's C:\.
[11:05] <juka> 43 megs
[11:05] <jhutchins> Only issue I have is it always opens on the current desktop instead of the one where I start it.
[11:05] <assasukasse> Schuenemann i am lucky then, the only problem is that it doesn't minimize to icon and that tab doesn't autocomplete nicknames..
[11:05] <juka> that's about 20'
[11:05] <soulrider> heh, this is funny, my webcam works out of the box in linux, but in windoze its a b!tch to install
[11:05] <assasukasse> juka wine itself is around 10 meg
[11:05] <jhutchins> soulrider: Welcome to the good side of computing!
[11:06] <soulrider> lol
[11:06] <Antonio_Carlos_M> oh tnx
[11:06] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i did it
[11:07] <assasukasse> goodnite all, time for me to sleep
[11:07] <LNX1> hi !
[11:08] <LNX1> Someone known how to resolv this: When I click on the desktop bar to start an application, this application start often twice
[11:08] <Schuenemann> aren't you double clicking?
[11:08] <LNX1> like no
[11:08] <LNX1> no
[11:08] <Dr_willis> desktop bar?
[11:09] <Dr_willis> the panel you mean.?
[11:09] <LNX1> yes, the bottom bar
[11:09] <LNX1> ah ! yes
[11:09] <LNX1> ;)
[11:09] <Dr_willis> just some times 2 start?
[11:09] <SlackRat> over zealous  clicker sounds like
[11:09] <LNX1> yes, often but not each time
[11:10] <SlackRat> :p
[11:10] <Dr_willis> try a different mouse - would be my first test
[11:10] <SlackRat> click gently, its not windows, its more responsive, lol
[11:10] <LNX1> exemple: I click on Firefox, then 2 firefox start
[11:10] <LNX1> lol SlackRat ;)
[11:11] <Dr_willis> ive seen some mice get worn where they do that.
[11:11] <SlackRat> hmn, that too
[11:11] <Dr_willis> there may be some 'double click' time out tweaks.. but ive never noticed or needed them
[11:11] <LNX1> I have seen something about that last week , but don't remember where
[11:11] <LNX1> It's a real bug
[11:11] <Schuenemann> on your own computer, maybe?
[11:11] <Schuenemann> :p
[11:11] <LNX1> lol
[11:12] <LNX1> no, I have seen this on website, then it's my time to get this one
[11:12] <LNX1> ;)
[11:12] <mae> is feisty stable?
[11:12] <Schuenemann> SlackRat, this damn update is still at 83%
[11:12] <SlackRat> rofl
[11:12] <Schuenemann> no, it will be in april
[11:12] <LNX1> I'm on feisty now mea.....lol
[11:12] <Dr_willis> mae,   ive learned it dose NOT pay to be an 'early adopter' :)
[11:13] <LNX1> but in KDE, panel bar application start twice ;)
[11:13] <SlackRat> depends on if you wanna test....
[11:13] <SlackRat> or just get work done..... :-P
[11:13] <mae> Dr_willis: lol
[11:15] <Schuenemann> anyone using KDE 3.5.6?
[11:18] <xenol> i got problem turning off pc from kmenu. i can shut down using konsole. i have ati card and got after defpots =vga=791. this  helped me last time but after reinstall it doesnt works more :( any ideas?
[11:20] <xenol> i got problem turning off pc from kmenu. i can shut down using konsole. i have ati card and got after defpots =vga=791. this  helped me last time but after reinstall it doesnt works more :( any ideas?
[11:21] <Dr_willis> defpots?
[11:21] <xenol> line 84 in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:21] <xenol> defplotions or smth like that
[11:21] <Dr_willis> the vga= options in the grub/framebuffer - shoudent have anything to do with the shutdown stuff
[11:22] <xenol> hmm helped me last time but now it doesnt :(
[11:22] <Dr_willis> what about the KDM screen? can you shutdown from there.
[11:22] <xenol> yes
[11:22] <xenol> Dr_willis: no i cant shutdown from kdm
[11:22] <SlackRat> have you enabled power management?
[11:22] <Dr_willis> what happens if ypu try to shutdown?
[11:23] <xenol> well if u mean k menu - log out - turn off
[11:23] <Dr_willis> i mean the KDM login screen
[11:23] <xenol> Dr_willis: screen goes black and nothing else
[11:23] <knubbe> is ther any special package needed to play dvd-movies? ive tried now with mplayer, gxine, vlc and kaffeine.
[11:23] <SlackRat> libdvdcss
[11:23] <SlackRat> w32 codecs
[11:23] <Dr_willis> so the drives run for a bit.. X dies.. and the screen goes black/hangs? dosent power off.
[11:23] <SlackRat> libdvdread
[11:23] <xenol> !libdvdcss2
[11:23] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:24] <xenol> yes doesnt power off
[11:24] <Dr_willis> what does power it off then?
[11:24] <SlackRat> theres an unofficial package called easyubuntu that never gave me trouble
[11:24] <SlackRat> downloads your codecs etc
[11:24] <Dr_willis> SlackRat,  you are one of the few then.. :)
[11:24] <SlackRat> but download ur own java.....
[11:24] <xenol> Dr_willis: nothing screen is black and cooler is working
[11:24] <SlackRat> Dr_willis: what usually happpens when people use it?
[11:24] <xenol> hdd is turned off
[11:25] <xenol> as everything
[11:25] <Dr_willis> xenol,  you said earlier you could power 'off' when using the konsole
[11:25] <knubbe> SlackRat: hmm, ok
[11:25] <xenol> Dr_willis: sry yes but only from konsole using sudo poweroff/halt -h
[11:25] <Dr_willis> you could edit the kdm program to use that as its power off command/halt command.
[11:26] <Dr_willis> but id think thats what it is using now.
[11:26] <xenol> where can i see it?
[11:26] <Dr_willis> i though  the menus had some system/perferances/login manager icon.
[11:27] <Dr_willis> that let you set some things.. you need to enable the 'administrator mode' button. or go hardcore and edit the kdmrc file. (but thats overkill)
[11:27] <xenol> i am confused
[11:27] <Dr_willis> the kdm tool may be an optional package
[11:27] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[11:27] <ubotu> Found: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm
[11:27] <SlackRat> knubbe, check out the forums, google etc for enabling dvd playback, ubuntu doesnt provide illegal codecs.....or......if you like risk, try easy ubuntu, works for me, but its not supported and has caused some folks headaches
[11:27] <xenol> i need to install kdm or what?
[11:28] <Dr_willis> the KDM configuration tool.. may or may not be installed by default.
[11:28] <Dr_willis> I tend to install EVERYTHING... and then some
[11:28] <xenol> hmm so sudo apt-get install kdm?
[11:28] <Dr_willis> try 'kdmtheme'
[11:28] <Dr_willis> kdm IS installed.
[11:28] <xenol> !kdmtheme
[11:28] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[11:28] <SlackRat> its know as hoarding doc, i do the same thing
[11:29] <SlackRat> lol
[11:29] <Dr_willis> system admin --> Loginmanager and "kdm theme manager"
[11:29] <Dr_willis> are 2 tools i see.
[11:29] <knubbe> SlackRat: ive installed easyubuntu now
[11:29] <xenol> Dr_willis: u mean system settings?
[11:29] <knubbe> SlackRat: however, the window  starts loading and then it just "disappears". classic kubuntu problem.
[11:30] <Dr_willis> I put that Wrench/panel app- on the panel that lets me get to my settings faster.. :) the 'new' layout is garbage. :) heh
[11:30] <SlackRat> it will take awhile , choose what you need for the moment.....i think it has a tendency, like syanptic to get the wrong java....blackhawk java or somesuch, better off getting java from the java people
[11:30] <Dr_willis> look for it... is all i can say. my system is so tweaked.
[11:30] <xenol> Dr_willis: where can i find it?
[11:30] <Dr_willis> Look in your menus
[11:30] <SlackRat> but get the codecs for dvd mpeg playback etc
[11:31] <Dr_willis> I ALWAYS add the 'settings' panel applet to my panel..
[11:31] <xenol> Dr_willis: got it too and got login manager
[11:31] <Dr_willis> its under System Admin --> Login Manager
[11:31] <Dr_willis> the shutdown tab
[11:31] <Dr_willis> gives the commands it uses to do the different things.
[11:32] <xenol> yea i see what do i need to do?
[11:32] <SlackRat> then find the forum pages on dvd playback, do you have vlc installed?
[11:32] <Dr_willis> look explore... perhaps set it to use that command that works...
[11:32] <Dr_willis> it works for me.. so how do i know what you need. :)
[11:32] <SlackRat> it comes with alot of its own codecs included
[11:32] <SlackRat> and mplayer has an optional codec pack as well
[11:32] <xenol> Dr_willis:  well if i want to use poweroff i need it with sudo
[11:32] <Dr_willis> halt command here = /sbin/halt
[11:33] <knubbe> SlackRat: ok, im installing all the codecs easyubuntu has to offer
[11:33] <Dr_willis> xenol,  these commands are what KDM runs.. you dont need to use 'sudo' with them.
[11:33] <SlackRat> halt shouldnt be restricted to root permission
[11:33] <Dr_willis> you are tellking kdm what commands to use
[11:33] <xenol> oh i will try then brb
[11:33] <Dr_willis> whats odd - is that you got one command that works.. but the defaults are not working. I though  they were using the same command.
[11:35] <SlackRat> god this room is so much better ...... i may never go into that gnomish room again....heh
[11:35] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[11:35] <SlackRat> lol
[11:36] <Ademan> anyone who uses ktorrent, in the queue manager the higher a torrent is the higher priority... right?
[11:36] <SlackRat> i used to consider all the deskops under ubuntu, but almost wiped it to install etch because of all the chatter and obnoxiousness in the U  channels and forums
[11:36] <Dr_willis> Que manager? wheres that at?
[11:36] <SlackRat> anyone who's anyone uses K-ubuntu, lmao
[11:36] <Dr_willis> i got a 'downloads tab'
[11:36] <SlackRat> download this
[11:36] <SlackRat> :-P
[11:37] <xenol> Dr_willis: same prob
[11:37] <SlackRat> i can see the spanish fork now...Quebunutu
[11:38] <Schuenemann> SlackRat, finally ended
[11:38] <SlackRat> the update?
[11:38] <Dr_willis> xenol,  so 'halt' works when you 'sudo halt' and powers down.. but  the same command when ran by kdm dosent?
[11:38] <SlackRat> ok, add those alsa packages
[11:38] <xenol> Dr_willis: no
[11:39] <Schuenemann> hold on, it's installing now hehe
[11:40] <SlackRat> and you might want to try getting the test sound first and changing your sound drivers in kde first to see if one 'just works'......make sure, if you want them to go to system notifications and check play all sounds, as well
[11:40] <SlackRat> but if it doesnt work, run the alsaconf utility
[11:40] <Schuenemann> ok
[11:41] <SlackRat> cause something in your update may have already fixed it, but it usually doesnt hurt to have the alsa tools onboard
[11:41] <xenol> Dr_willis: where should i look for help and will this fkn bug be repaired in feisty?
[11:41] <Ademan> Dr_willis: the gear thing with QM written on it (in red and green)
[11:42] <Dr_willis> xenol,  no idea.. its not a bug for most people.. somthing seems real real real odd with your system however. what command do you use that actually powers off the box?
[11:42] <xenol> Dr_willis: i use sudo poweroff
[11:43] <Dr_willis> xenol,  tell kdm to use the poweroff command then?
[11:43] <Dr_willis> poweroff = halt -p  from what i just read..
[11:43] <Dr_willis> and halt -p is the default option for 'halt'
[11:43] <xenol> Dr_willis: it is set by default
[11:43] <Dr_willis> you could 'suid' the  poweroff command.. but thats getting dirty
[11:44] <Dr_willis> then ANYONE could power off the box with the poweroff command.
[11:44] <xenol> it is set
[11:44] <xenol> to everyone
[11:44] <xenol> only remote is for root
[11:44] <SlackRat> which is kde default i thought....
[11:44] <Schuenemann> SlackRat, it always freezes when I click 'test'
[11:45] <SlackRat> then dont click test anymore
[11:45] <Schuenemann> this sucks
[11:45] <SlackRat> heh
[11:45] <SlackRat> kill it
[11:45] <Dr_willis> xenol,  i mean at a lower level.. you are right.. it SHOULD be able to do it.. so this is all weird.
[11:45] <Schuenemann> I did
[11:45] <SlackRat> run alsaconf
[11:45] <versus> salut tout le monde
[11:45] <xenol> Dr_willis: in kde channel said it is  bug of ubuntu
[11:45] <Dr_willis> you could try the command    " sudo chmod +s  $(which poweroff) "           BUT thgat
[11:45] <Schuenemann> sudo: alsaconf: command not found
[11:45] <Dr_willis> xenol,  its a bug that seems rather rare then.
[11:45] <versus> what's de chan of kubuntu french ?
[11:45] <SlackRat> did you install alsa-utils etc
[11:46] <SlackRat> ?
[11:46] <Dr_willis> xenol,  check the kubuntu wiki/forums - ive never seen anyone else with this issue.
[11:46] <Schuenemann> nope
[11:46] <Schuenemann> utils and base?
[11:46] <xenol> xenol: weird is it works for me on dapper but not on edgy
[11:46] <SlackRat> its a bug in edgy maybe.....dapper works fine
[11:46] <xenol> Dr_willis: have already tried not many ppl have same problem
[11:46] <Schuenemann> I already have the latest alsa-utils
[11:46] <premier_> hello.  I have a kde system and I want to experiment with gnome.  How can I install it without worrying about destroying my data?
[11:46] <Dr_willis> install ubuntu-desktop premier_
[11:47] <Dr_willis> you can pick what one to log into from the kdm screen
[11:47] <SlackRat> how many alsa pkgs did you install?
[11:47] <xenol> and i got advice to use vga=791 after deftplotions or whatever is that thing called and it helped
[11:47] <Schuenemann> none, I already had alsa-utils
[11:47] <SlackRat> install a few alsa packages
[11:47] <xenol> well  Dr_willis does kernel settings have something to do with poweroff
[11:47] <xenol> ?
[11:47] <premier_> Dr_willis, so no worries about data loss?
[11:47] <SlackRat> one of them has the alsaconf set up tool
[11:48] <versus> anyone can say me what's the french channel ?
[11:48] <xenol> !fr
[11:48] <Schuenemann> !fr
[11:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:48] <SlackRat> alsa-drivers....etc
[11:48] <versus> merci
[11:48] <SlackRat> and run it as sudo
[11:48] <versus> thanks
[11:48] <Dr_willis> xenol,  theres a LOT of settings to do with it.. but  the command does work.. then it dosent for another user (kdm) that 'chmod +s' thing i gave earlier should fix it for all users.
[11:48] <Schuenemann> he begs for mercy
[11:48] <Dr_willis> premier_,  what data? the users /home is not affected.. you are just installing more packages
[11:48] <SlackRat> sometimes it takes a day or two to get sound right on a cranky system
[11:48] <Dr_willis> premier_,  you are making it too complex. :)
[11:48] <premier_> okay, sorry.
[11:49] <SlackRat> isnt linux fun??
[11:49] <Schuenemann> nope
[11:49] <Dr_willis> It pays to buy good hardware. :)
[11:49] <xenol> !paste
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <Dr_willis> My Audigy 2zs works gr8 :)
[11:49] <Schuenemann> well, even on this crappy hardware dapper worked fine
[11:49] <premier_> My computer hasnt been booting down properly.  When it logs out of my username, it stalls on a black screen for a long time; sometimes it wont stop and I have to crash it
[11:49] <Schuenemann> so it's not my hardwakre
[11:49] <Schuenemann> ware*
[11:50] <premier_> alt-ctrl-backspace doesnt work
[11:50] <xenol> i dont believe that if my HW was working great on dapper wont work great on edgy
[11:50] <SlackRat> which is why, where ubuntu is concerned, i dont upgrade so easily
[11:50] <SlackRat> bugs take months to work out, then , hey, new release
[11:50] <xenol> afaik what differs edgy from dapper is software updates
[11:50] <Dr_willis> xenol,  did you 'upgrade' or do a clean reinstall?
[11:50] <xenol> clean reinstall
[11:50] <Schuenemann> SlackRat, it was released in october!
[11:50] <SlackRat> also dapper was meant to be more stable and longer supported
[11:51] <SlackRat> its still based on debian unstable snapshots
[11:51] <SlackRat> i may try feisty in march
[11:51] <Schuenemann> I just got the stupid error message again
[11:51] <SlackRat> late march
[11:51] <la> today is new year
[11:51] <xenol> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6479/
[11:51] <SlackRat> can you change to OpenSoundSystem instead of the autodetect??
[11:51] <xenol> Dr_willis: see line 84-90
[11:51] <SlackRat> yes la, year of the pig
[11:51] <Schuenemann> I changed to alsa
[11:52] <la> and what was last year ?
[11:52] <SlackRat> now go to sound notificiations and click on play ALL sounds
[11:52] <xenol> Dr_willis: wat should i try cause i getting really upset for this
[11:52] <Dr_willis> xenol,  the vga options do not have any affect on the powering down.. you COULD use the   optins to disable framebuffer and perhaps see some error log messages
[11:52] <la> it's good year
[11:52] <xenol> Dr_willis: do u want to see my logs?
[11:52] <SlackRat> apply to all apps, trun on all
[11:53] <Dr_willis> xenol,  you are talkign to some one who has linux box's with 4+ month of uptimes - i dont really worry about having to hit the power button to power one down.
[11:53] <SlackRat> try and play one of the sounds right below it
[11:53] <SlackRat> actions/playa sound
[11:53] <xenol> Dr_willis: well i cannot sleep when my PC is making noise although it  has only 30 DB
[11:53] <Dr_willis> xenol,  could try changing the line   # defoptions=vga=791 quiet splash           to  # defoptions= nofb onquiet nosplash
[11:54] <la> why it's so difficult to instal anything ?
[11:54] <Dr_willis> and rerun the grub-install and see if you can get some error messages
[11:54] <Dr_willis> when you boot/shutdown
[11:54] <robi_> i like kubuntu
[11:54] <xenol> Dr_willis: i love u
[11:54] <xenol> Dr_willis: rly love u
[11:54] <Dr_willis> oops 'noquiet' not onquiet
[11:54] <xenol> Dr_willis: the prob is
[11:54] <Schuenemann> SlackRat, no sound
[11:54] <xenol> i didnt do grub-update
[11:54] <Dr_willis> nofb disables the framebuffer.. that way you should see some more info
[11:54] <SlackRat> logout, then log back into kde
[11:54] <xenol> and need to shutdown/reboot pc
[11:54] <Schuenemann> ok
[11:54] <SlackRat> or reboot
[11:55] <xenol> Dr_willis: how can i update grub plx?
[11:56] <Dr_willis>   # defoptions= nofb noquiet nosplash   - and rerun updategrub
[11:56] <xenol> Dr_willis: sudo apt-get update grub ?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> or edit the  other lines and change those options
[11:56] <xenol> Dr_willis: i know w here is prob now
[11:56] <Dr_willis> you HAVE grub installed..
[11:56] <xenol> forgot to do grub update after changins settings :(
[11:56] <Dr_willis> if that vga=thing IS the fix/problem - thats realy realy really weird...
[11:56] <SlackRat> you dont update grub, you update lilo
[11:56] <Dr_willis> you got your menu.lst very configured it seems
[11:57] <Dr_willis> depending on how you do 'things' to it - you may or may not need to run update-grub
[11:57] <xenol> Dr_willis: hmm wat u mean? it is good or bad?
[11:57] <Dr_willis> xenol,  someone commented out most of the entrys... was that you?
[11:57] <florent_> bonjour
[11:57] <xenol> Dr_willis: yes
[11:57] <SlackRat> you mean touching grub in its bathing suit areas?
[11:58] <reldruh> hello. I'm about to try building kde on my own for the first time using the Konstruct script and was wondering if it fetches all the dependencies it needs or if that has be done manually prior to running it.
[11:58] <SlackRat> dunno reldruh, never used the Konstruct......
[11:58] <Dr_willis> could change your one entry to read     /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hdb3 ro quiet splash vga=791
[11:58] <Dr_willis> and see if that works..
[11:58] <Dr_willis> or perhaps... better
[11:58] <SlackRat> have more trust in apt
[11:58] <Dr_willis> could change your one entry to read     /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hdb3 ro quiet nofb nosplash vga=791
[11:59] <reldruh> SlackRat: me neither, and all I find on the devnew page about it is: Some basic libraries and some other libraries enabling additional functionality are not included in "Konstruct", http://www.kde.org/info/requirements/3.5.php lists them.
[11:59] <reldruh> but there's a good 50 packages listed there
[11:59] <jarn> Where are the KDM themes?
[11:59] <SlackRat> i prefer not to build Open Office or KDE if i can help it
[12:00] <Dr_willis> jarn,  theres a few in the repos not installed by default.. or go to kde-look.org and get some
[12:00] <Dr_willis> !kdmtheme
[12:00] <SlackRat> though i suppose i might try dpkg -i kde-*
[12:00] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[12:00] <Dr_willis> be sure to install the kdmtheme tool also.
[12:00] <jarn> Dr_willis: No, where are they stored on the hard drive.
[12:00] <jarn> Dr_willis: The ones that come with it.
[12:00] <reldruh> SlackRat: I've always been curious what it's like from scratch. I've tried gentoo a few times and it was just a little bit too complicated. I'm going to do a fresh install for feisty, so now's the time to try it
[12:00] <Dr_willis> jarn,  ohh. NOW you clarify :)
[12:01] <Dr_willis> jarn,  try 'locate NameOfATheme' ?
[12:01] <SlackRat> go for it, its not as bad as gentoo cause its not gonna compile everything
[12:01] <SlackRat> that could take days
[12:01] <SlackRat> it just has to install all the core bits in the right order
[12:01] <Dr_willis> im not sure where they get installed to.. fire up the package manager and see where the files  are at in the package.
[12:01] <reldruh> SlackRat: I'm aware :-) I got close enough with gentoo to realize what a mistake that was. I'd like to use this script, but I odn't know if I have to install all these dependencies first
[12:02] <SlackRat> kinda curius to see how the script works myself, for future reference
[12:02] <SlackRat> it should all be in the kde pkg, what you need
[12:02] <reldruh> well if it works well enough to get me back here I'll let you know :-)
[12:02] <SlackRat> cool, heh
[12:02] <xenol> Dr_willis: plz can u gimme  a link i pasted u ? my menu.lst was changed after update-grub
[12:02] <xenol> and it now works
[12:02] <SlackRat> read the docs before hand tho
[12:03] <reldruh> SlackRat: thts' what I'm doing now, but I still have some questions I'm trying to get answered
[12:04] <xenol> SlackRat:  u need somewhere up the link i pasted to dr_willis plz? can u paste it again to me s ince i rebooted and i dont see it *lazy to write menu.lst again* :X thx
[12:05] <SlackRat> how far up?
[12:05] <xenol> hmm just scroll up mayb 50-60 lines
[12:05] <xenol> plz
[12:07] <xenol> SlackRat:  hmm?
[12:07] <SlackRat> k. now what am i doing with it?
[12:07] <xenol> just paste a link
[12:07] <xenol> plz
[12:07] <SlackRat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6479/
[12:07] <xenol> thx
[12:08] <jose> HOLA
[12:09] <SlackRat> first time i saw the Konstruct pkg install was in Suse, so it shouldnt cause too many problems
[12:10] <SlackRat> and you can always try a dpkg -i install with a wildcard
[12:10] <SlackRat> itll install the whole folder