[11:07] <reter> i finally got ubuntu to install my printer driver but my printer is printing inlegible documents
[11:07] <Nermal> perhaps mentioning what printer you have could be useful ?
[11:07] <hutgyrr> * //HUB/ isn't a share name nyway
[11:07] <ninjafury> and now all i get on my screen is "sdc: assuming drive cache: write through" all the time
[11:08] <ph8> 'a share'?
[11:08] <reter> brother mfc 7150C
[11:08] <concept10> ninjafury, that doesnt have anything to do with xorg
[11:08] <ph8> i just want to access all shared docs on the HUB machine on this network
[11:08] <reter> nermal, were you in #aber before?
[11:08] <crimsun> ninjafury: is this on a usb cd/dvd drive?
[11:08] <hutgyrr> a share should be sumthing like //HUB/thisisashare
[11:08] <ninjafury> no its on a hard drive
[11:08] <ph8> "//HUB/My Music"?
[11:09] <crimsun> ninjafury: hmm, I do have those symptoms on a usb cd/dvd drive, too, which makes sense due to the scsi emulation
[11:09] <concept10> ninjafury, did you upgrade to breezy from hoary using dist-upgrade?
[11:09] <hutgyrr> yep '//HUB/My Music' or //HUB/My\ Music/
[11:09] <ninjafury> i didnt upgrade, this is my first linux install
[11:09] <concept10> ninjafury, which release did you use?
[11:10] <Jowi> ph8, you can also point it to "//ip.addr.ess/share name" if the HUB name gives you trouble.
[11:10] <ph8> ah
[11:10] <ph8> will try that
[11:10] <ninjafury> the release is 5.10 breezy badger preview for AMD 64
[11:11] <ph8> still says i specified invalid share name
[11:11] <concept10> ninjafury, is it the latest one?  (colony 5)
[11:11] <ph8> fuck it i'll do it using windows then move it across from the read only partition
[11:11] <Jowi> ph8, but i think that you really need smbfs installed. so if you haven't already: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[11:11] <ninjafury> i really dont know, but i guess so cuz i just downloaded it today
[11:11] <ph8> i have it now
[11:11] <ph8> still same prob
[11:12] <hutgyrr> what command are you typing in?
[11:12] <concept10> ninjafury, are you on that install right now?
[11:12] <ninjafury> yeah
[11:12] <ph8> mount -t smbfs "//HUB/Henri's Music" /mnt/HUB
[11:12] <ph8> also tried //<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:12] <hutgyrr> use ' not "
[11:12] <ninjafury> well right now i'm on my laptop (the install is on my desktop and its infornt of me)
[11:13] <heatxsink> anyone in here use a PC-Card to CF reader?
[11:13] <concept10> ninjafury, run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.  There was alot of fixes for xorg coming down the pipe today
[11:13] <heatxsink> i can't get ubuntu to read my CF card properly
[11:13] <ph8> ' makes it prompt with > after the cmd
[11:13] <Jowi> ph8, yeah, ' will do that
 +use ' not "
[11:15] <ninjafury> concept, the thing is that this 'assuming drive cache' error msg is constantly being printed on my screen, so it interupts whatever i'm trying to do. i cant seem to stop it.
[11:15] <reter> what do you do when your printer is printing unreadable documents?
[11:15] <Jowi> ph8, double ' ('' not " (see the difference????)) should make it recognise it as one real '. best bet is to change the share name so it does not have wierd characters in it.
[11:15] <concept10> ninjafury, does the livecd work on your?
[11:16] <ninjafury> haven't tried it
[11:16] <concept10> ninjafury, what type of storage do you have on that system? SATA?
[11:16] <ninjafury> yeah its sata
[11:17] <concept10> you have just one sata drive?
[11:17] <reter> most times i come here with a problem i am ignored
[11:17] <reter> unless thorpeautic is here
[11:18] <ninjafury> no i have 2, but breezy was installed on the first one, the second drive has no OS installed, it just hass all my data
[11:19] <Jowi> reter, if someone can give you a good answer/solution then will. there is no use giving bad advice on stuff that I/we/you know very little about. can make more damage than help :)
[11:19] <Jowi> s/then/they
[11:20] <ninjafury> concept10, could it be that the linux partition is messed up?
[11:20] <loststryk> :)
[11:20] <ph8> ty jowi
[11:20] <Jowi> reter, and it will also help if you are more specific. if it is printing pure garbage or do you have stripes in the print? laser or inkjet? what have you tried, etc :)
[11:20] <ph8> turns out the windows computer's misconfigured also
[11:20] <Chameleon22> cafuego, thank, installed. Dont get css error anymore... but now it just takes wayyy to long to load while eating all my machine resources
[11:21] <reter> in good news i got my cheapo digital camera to work on gkcam
[11:21] <Jowi> ph8, ah. good you noticed, hehe
[11:21] <reter> gtkam
[11:21] <concept10> ninjafury, I dont believe the partition is messed up, I think you have a problem with SATA drivers and xorg.
[11:21] <ph8> i'm transferring from what is effectively the router to something behind the network switch
[11:21] <ph8> pain in the arse
[11:21] <ninjafury> do you know how i can fix the sata driver problem?
[11:22] <reter> jowi, i have a brother mfc 7150c. it is printing the document but i can not make out the words. it is completly unreadable. no stripes..not pure garage. my printer is inkjet
[11:22] <n00bster> thank you Jowi, i will do.
[11:22] <reter> jowi, all i tried to change the letter size. make it smaller. i dont know how to change the font. if that is possible
[11:23] <Jowi> reter, most printers have a buttoncombination for making a testprint from it (from the printer hardware, not computer). how does that look?
[11:24] <reter> jowi, normal
[11:24] <concept10> ninjafury, cant help on that one, search the wiki...  try the live cd, see if it works .....
[11:24] <reter> jowi, when i had windows i didnt have this problem. it printed well
[11:24] <ninjafury> ok thanks
[11:24] <Jowi> reter, good. what driver are you using? is it connected to paralell or usb?
[11:24] <reter> it is connected paralell
[11:25] <reter> jowi, using the brother mfc 7150c driver
[11:25] <BurgerMann> Now.. what does CVS mean?.. some say subversion, but I can't get that right. :s
[11:25] <bob2> cvs is another revision control system
[11:25] <bob2> it's old and missing some pretty important features
[11:26] <bob2> subversion is newer and tries to fix some of those issues
[11:26] <loststryk> reter, try http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=epsonc&fromprinter=Brother-MFC_7150C
[11:26] <ph8> i like svn
[11:26] <ph8> why can't you get it right?
[11:26] <bob2> get what right?
[11:28] <Jowi> reter, good advice from loststryk. check it out. my first thought go to the bios. what transfer method is in use? (most bioses and os's work best if EPP/ECP, not SPP is selected). if it is, i would research more for the driver. unfortunatley i do not have much experience with this printer/driver at all...
[11:30] <Jowi> (epp/ecp is a transfer selection for the paralell port in the bios)
[11:31] <ph8> bob2: <BurgerMann> +Now.. what does CVS mean?.. some say subversion, but I can't get that right. :s
 why can't you get it right?
[11:32] <Chameleon22> cafuego, thank, installed. Dont get css error anymore... but now it just takes wayyy to long to load while eating all my machine resources
[11:32] <Chameleon22> cafuego, you there dude?
[11:33] <bob2> oh, I see
[11:33] <BurgerMann> ph8, hmnn.. because I thought CVS was an application, not a concept :}
[11:33] <reter> loststryk, what am i suppose to do? download the pdd file?
[11:33] <ph8> it is
[11:33] <ph8> and it is
[11:33] <BurgerMann> ph8, oh hehe
[11:34] <ph8> more of a protocol
[11:34] <BurgerMann> ah
[11:34] <ph8> It's a versionning system
[11:34] <ph8> so every time you alter the file it might increase the version number from 0.0.3 to 0.0.4 etc
[11:34] <bob2> BurgerMann: revision control is the concept, cvs is an implementation
[11:34] <bob2> tho not a particularily good one
[11:34] <ph8> then if you get to 1.05 and realise you cocked up the last 5 revisions you can rollback to 1.00
[11:34] <ph8> it's a good way to control projects, especially those where lots of you work on them (versionning control not CVS)
[11:35] <ph8> I'd recommend subversion (svn) for it
[11:35] <cafuego_> Chameleon22: whut?
[11:35] <ph8> it's quite straightforward once you figure it out
[11:35] <BurgerMann> ph8, so when ie php faq talks about anonymous CVS, it's some 3rd party who've been tweaking the original official version?
[11:35] <_rb_> heyas. whats a good app for ubuntu that i can use to make a relational database and basically have the same functionality of something like access ?
[11:36] <Jowi> I thought the whole point with CVS is that you can always track down what changes a specific person made...?
[11:36] <_rb_> my boss wants me to db all of his stock and clients etc, but I'm not allowed to build it, I've gotta use existing software
[11:36] <Chameleon22> cafuego, i got the decryption working, but now when i try to use xine or mplayer it almost chokes my system trying to play a dvd... eats a lot of resources without actually playing
[11:36] <BurgerMann> _rb_: I fancy mySql with phpMyadmin, but it takes a webserver with php.
[11:37] <_rb_> phpmyadmin is an administrator, I need to have a frontend for it. preferably a complete package, I've just been looking at the openoffice base package and its hideously underpowered. As I said, I'm not allowed to build one
[11:38] <_rb_> I use php and mysql for my own stuff and contracts, but this is just a rdb for the boss
[11:38] <_rb_> searched in the synaptic pile, and theres a lot to scroll thru
[11:38] <_rb_> wanted to know ifd there was a recommended one
[11:39] <cafuego_> Chameleon22: Ouch. Is DMA enabled on the drive?
[11:40] <Chameleon22> cafuego, dma?
[11:41] <n00bster> #gaim
[11:41] <n00bster> help
[11:41] <Chameleon22> n00bster, you need to type /join before channel name
[11:41] <n00bster> ok, ty :)
[11:42] <cafuego_> !dma
[11:42] <cafuego_> grrtvvrrr
[11:42] <cafuego_> !+dma
[11:42] <ubotu> well, dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[11:43] <Ecker> how do i change rpm into deb files
[11:43] <Ecker> ?
[11:44] <ph8> alien
[11:44] <ph8> man alien
[11:44] <ph8> alien -d file.rpm
[11:44] <ph8> iirc
[11:44] <cafuego_> Magic!
[11:47] <p4skku> nas
[11:47] <LuVUnTu> any ideas when RC will be out?
[11:47] <LuVUnTu> release candidate
[11:50] <Tomcat_> LuVUnTu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[11:50] <Tomcat_> So, Oct. 6th
[11:50] <Zeke1> is there anyway to remote desktop from ubuntu to a windowsXP box?
[11:50] <ThePyromaniac> can anyone look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2629
[11:51] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: Install VNC on the WinXP box, then use the Terminal Server Client
[11:51] <LuVUnTu> thank u Tomcat_
[11:51] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: There is also some technology already integrated into WinXP that should be possible to use... no idea how to do that though.
[11:52] <LuVUnTu> wow that still seem like a pretty long wait
[11:52] <Zeke1> Tomcat_, ok vnc is installed on winXP but how do i use the terminal server client...and will i get a graphical view of the winXP desktop like with XP's remote desktop client
[11:52] <Tomcat_> LuVUnTu: Well, the Preview is usable... but I like how they test stuff before it's out.
[11:52] <LuVUnTu> i am already using preview Tomcat_
[11:52] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: Open the Terminal Server Client, put in the hostname, choose VNC, then start? o_O
[11:53] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: Yes, you'll get a window showing WinXP's desktop
[11:53] <LuVUnTu> and it's pretty good so far :)
[11:53] <ThePyromaniac> Anyone know why i get the errors posted here whenever i use synaptic http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2629
[11:53] <ThePyromaniac> or does anyone know where the configuration file is that declares the position of the Applications/Open window bars?
[11:53] <Zeke1> Tomcat_, thanx gonna check it out now
[11:54] <carthik> where is the best place to ask a gsl (gnu scientific library) related c programming question?
[11:55] <Zeke1> Tomcat_, when i say connect nothing happens and terminal server dissapears??
[11:57] <ThePyromaniac> carthik #c++ is a good place :D
[11:57] <Zeke1> Tomcat_, ok but thats like a VNC viewer...isnt there some type of Remote desktop client fro ubuntu?
[11:57] <tzapachuau> eggdfgd
[11:59] <jack> i'm running ubuntu 5.04 and i'm trying to install java but i'm not sure of the right way to do it. I tried using dselect, apt-get and the binary installer from sun but each died with different errors
[12:00] <jack> apt-get said it couldn't find the package, sun's installer says it's   not compatible with the default package versions ..
[12:00] <jack> i'm stumped
[12:01] <carthik> ThePyromaniac, thanks - i know it is something stupid, but it is late already, and I cant figure things out clearly :)
[12:01] <ThePyromaniac> ^^
[12:02] <jack> i tried this command : "apt-get install sun-j2re1"
[12:02] <Zeke1> what do i need to install to get 'make' to work in ubuntu...im using a make file to run a c++ program
[12:02] <jack> which kicked: apt-get install sun-j2re1.
[12:02] <mon> arse
[12:03] <jack> errum kicked the error : E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1
[12:03] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: build-essential should be enough
[12:03] <mon> hello
[12:03] <jack> i checked my apt sources, which included universe and multiuniverse
[12:03] <Zeke1> TokenBad,  build-essential?
[12:03] <Tomcat_> Zeke1 Tomcat_, ok but thats like a VNC viewer...isnt there some type of Remote desktop client fro ubuntu? <--- Err... the VNC viewer is the remote desktop client... or what do you mean? :>
[12:04] <mahangu> is there a util for gnome that will let me switch between workspaces the way OSX does it?
[12:04] <jack> which repositories does this "sun-j2rl" existing?
[12:04] <Tomcat_> jack: You either need to create your own java package (most people here can help you do this), or you can use the unofficial java package.
[12:04] <Tomcat_> jack: hoary or breezy?
[12:04] <Zeke1> Tomcat_,  no i see now...i just thought maybe ubuntu has another way cause WinXP has its built in remote desktop client...you dont need to install vnc
[12:04] <jack> Tomcat_, : hoary
[12:05] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: Yeah, as I said... it's somhow possible to use that too, I just don't have any idea how it works. :)
[12:05] <Zeke1> Tomcat_,  how the winXp stuff works or how ubuntu connects to it?
[12:05] <Tomcat_> jack: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ <--- hoary-extras has packages for Java
[12:06] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: If the WinXP stuff is enabled by default or how to enable it, and how to connect to it.
[12:06] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: But if you figured it out, great. :)
[12:06] <jack> Tomcat_, : nods, yeah I expected that I might have to either use someone else's built package or build my own, i did trie to build my own package but ran into different breakdowns ...
[12:06] <Zeke1> Tomcat_,  no havent figured it out yet....
[12:08] <Tomcat_> jack: It's usually very easy... just get the official java installer, install "java-package", then sudo fakeroot, make-jpkg <installer>, and you got a package. :)
[12:08] <Tomcat_> jack: But the backports java packages are good too.
[12:08] <jack> eyah, let me double check my installs for "java-package" i think i did follow those instructions ...
[12:09] <ice_1963> good morning tomcat_
[12:10] <Tomcat_> Good morning, ice_1963.
[12:11] <ice_1963> will w32codecs install in Debian sid?
[12:12] <ice_1963> from ubuntu
[12:12] <ice_1963> hmm
[12:13] <Jowi> should be safe
[12:13] <kanwar> hi anyone volunteer to help a sort of *newbie* to configure a small LAN / internet gateway?
[12:13] <kanwar> both machines are running kubuntu ...
[12:13] <astig> hello...
[12:13] <astig> is there a help-line for ubuntu
[12:14] <astig> help-channel on ubuntu?
[12:14] <Jowi> kanwar, what kind of gateway? do you plan to use a router (easiest solution) or one of the PCs as a gateway?
[12:14] <carthik> astig this is it
[12:14] <Jowi> astig, i think this is it :)
[12:14] <kanwar> astig, one of the PCs as gateway ...
[12:14] <kanwar> sorry jowi
[12:15] <astig> thanks
[12:15] <astig> my problem is... can i share ubuntu printer to windows user?
[12:15] <Jowi> kanwar, well, gateway PC needs two nics. NIC1 = internet connection, NIC2 = LAN connection.
[12:15] <kanwar> on the 'gateway' PC i have two NICs configured -- one points to the internet and the other to my second computer (via a crossover cable)
[12:16] <jack> yup, i do have the "java-package" installed ... so i su to a non-root user to build my fakeroot
[12:16] <rambo3> what
[12:16] <kanwar> jowi, on the second computer, i have one NIC which is also setup correctly (static ip, and visible in ifconfig)
[12:16] <Jowi> kanwar, seems like a good start. what are all the nics ipaddresses?
[12:17] <kanwar> however, i am unable to ping one computer from the other
[12:17] <deFrysk> jack got fakeroot installed ?
[12:17] <Jowi> kanwar, yeah. pc1's got connection to internet. got it. what are the lan nics ip addresses?
[12:17] <jack> deFrysk, yes i do
[12:17] <kanwar> jowi, okay here goes: the gateway machine has a dhcp based ip address on the internet NIC and a static one (<IP_ADDRESS>) on the local one
[12:18] <jack> I got this error ...
[12:18] <deFrysk> jack, got the jave.bin file ?
[12:18] <kanwar> also, the second comp has a static ip of <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:18] <jack> error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/12062
[12:18] <deFrysk> java.in*
[12:18] <jack> deFrysk, yes
[12:18] <jack> errum
[12:18] <jack> uncertain
[12:18] <deFrysk> jack, fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file]
[12:18] <Jowi> kanwar, and what subnet?
[12:18] <ice_1963> i have bin
[12:18] <deFrysk> jack, download the .bin file from java.sun.com
[12:18] <kanwar> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:19] <astig> anyone... can i share printers ubuntu
[12:19] <jack> yeah i did: http://paste.lisp.org/display/12062
[12:19] <jack> i have the file already, /opt/packages/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[12:19] <deFrysk> jack, NOT the rpm.bin
[12:19] <jack> oh
[12:19] <rambo3> tar
[12:19] <kanwar> jowi, actually i should take a step back and say that this problem crops up each time the machines are booted in a debian based distro ...
[12:19] <deFrysk> the .bin (without rpm)
[12:20] <kanwar> I also have Suse installed on both machines and it works fine then
[12:20] <Jowi> kanwar, so, pc1: <IP_ADDRESS> is connected to pc2: <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[12:20] <ice_1963> ok
[12:20] <kanwar> jowi, yes
[12:20] <Jowi> kanwar, have you got it to work before? it get messed up only after reboot?
[12:21] <astig> nobody answering me
[12:21] <ThePyromaniac> anyone know how i can move my windows installation from one HD to this HD and make it dual bootable? ^^
[12:21] <kanwar> jowi, no i have never seen it work yet with ubuntu/kubuntu/xandros or a combination of these on the two machines
[12:21] <Jowi> astig, short answer: yes
[12:22] <astig> jowi: how?
[12:22] <Jowi> kanwar, ok. are you pinging using hostnames or are you pinging via ip addresses?
[12:22] <Jowi> astig, the long answer i have not even tried since i have no windows box to try with....
[12:22] <kanwar> for instance, if i have ubuntu running on the gateway box (the one i am writing from), then if there's either ubuntu or xandros on the second comp, it does not work
[12:22] <Jowi> !printershare
[12:22] <ubotu> Not a clue, Jowi
[12:22] <kanwar> i.e. i cannot ping one computer from the other
[12:23] <astig> anyone has experience sharing printer on windows?
[12:23] <Jowi> kanwar, try to change <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:23] <Jowi> kanwar, usually, .1 is the gateway itself
[12:24] <kanwar> jowi, hold on, i'll do it right now and let you know ...
[12:24] <ice_1963> if ubuntu remove java from there /etc/apt/sources.list it's going to be fun
[12:25] <vinboy> hi
[12:25] <kanwar> jowi, hmm i changed it but nothing yet ...
[12:25] <vinboy> what does it mean by software package that can't be authenticated?
[12:25] <kanwar> still getting Destination host unreachable
[12:25] <kanwar> jowi, netstat shows my default route pointing to <IP_ADDRESS>, as I gather it should
[12:26] <Jowi> kanwar, correct
[12:26] <Jowi> kanwar, can you ping the gateway?
[12:26] <kanwar> jowi, what i wonder is: is this a debian thing??
[12:26] <kanwar> nope
[12:27] <Jowi> kanwar, no, there is something that is set up wrong.
[12:27] <Jowi> kanwar, need to pinpoint it
[12:27] <kanwar> jowi, okay. btw i can ping the network i.e. <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:28] <Jowi> kanwar, yeah. which ip have you set up as the gateway?
[12:28] <Zeke1> anybody do c++ and opengl....i am running a program with a makefile and i get this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXmu
[12:29] <kanwar> on the non-gateway computer, i have the ip of the gateway box as the gateway IP
[12:30] <Nermal> lo beezly  :)
[12:30] <Jowi> kanwar, ah. hmmm.
[12:30] <beezly> Nermal: lo
[12:30] <Jowi> kanwar, hang on.
[12:30] <beezly> Nermal: I still got the cool reverse DNS :)
[12:31] <ThePyromaniac> anyone know how i can move my windows install from one HD to another?
[12:31] <hutgyrr> when you su root is the only way to go back to prev user by su prevuser or id there a logoff flag or anything
[12:31] <hutgyrr> * or is
[12:32] <kanwar> jowi, sure, take your time.
[12:32] <zakame> what's the best way to migrate saved mboxes coming from one distro to another?
[12:35] <Jowi> kanwar, this might be a stupid question. if you have firestarter installed, maybe you sort of forgot to enable ip-forwarding?
[12:36] <kanwar> jowi, okay ... just been hunting on the internet again. It appears that although the card on my second computer shows as configured, it might not be the correct driver
[12:37] <kanwar> its a Yukon sk98lin card
[12:37] <heatxsink> has anyone got a pcmcia card to compact flash card reader working in ubuntu?  Mine seems to mount the partition on the card, and then nautilis goes beserk, the window opens then closes and then will not mount the partition!!
[12:37] <Jowi> so it should use the sk98lin module
[12:37] <kanwar> however, i am still puzzled since i can ping the card itself
[12:37] <kanwar> yeah, but i cannot see it in lsmod
[12:37] <kanwar> doing modprobe sk98lin did not work
[12:37] <jack> deFrysk: I got the true bin file without the rpm part and its moving forward again, horra, thanks for point me in the right direction!
[12:37] <kanwar> i checked /lib/modules ... etc but did not find the driver
[12:38] <deFrysk> jack, yw :)
[12:38] <Jowi> kanwar, it might have a different chipset in it. if it can ping itself it should be ok.
[12:38] <jack> I was seriously stuck (dump i know) thanks again everyone :)
[12:40] <Jowi> kanwar, lets say that nic1 is your internet connection and nic2 is beside nic1 on the gateway pc. Nic3 is the standalone pc. which nic are you talking about, nic1, 2 or 3?
[12:40] <Zeke1> anyboyd use c++ and openGL
[12:40] <kanwar> 3
[12:40] <kanwar> nic3
[12:40] <Jowi> kanwar, ok, then we are thinking the same.
[12:42] <kanwar> jowi, that's what's puzzling me ... as I said, it works perfectly if I start SuSE on both computers !!
[12:43] <Jowi> kanwar, i bet it is not a driver problem. since you can ping the network there is a misconfiguration on either Nic2 or nic3.
[12:43] <Jowi> kanwar, firewalls installed?
[12:45] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[12:46] <kanwar> jowi, firewall is installed on the gateway PC
[12:48] <Jowi> kanwar, which one? firestarter?
[12:50] <Jowi> kanwar, found a great page: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[12:51] <Nermal> beezly: :)
[12:51] <Anak1n> hi
[12:51] <Anak1n> can someone help me
[12:51] <Anak1n> ?
[12:51] <nalioth> Anak1n: if you ask a question
[12:51] <fanopanic> Since upgrading to breezy I miss about 80% of all icons... is there a known solution to that problem?
[12:51] <Jowi> Anak1n, ask and you might be lucky that someone can. if you don't ask the question no one could
[12:52] <Anak1n> what to do
[12:52] <Anak1n> with
[12:52] <Anak1n> pkg.deb
[12:52] <Anak1n> how to install it
[12:52] <Anak1n> :S
[12:52] <fanopanic> dpkg -i pkg.deb
[12:52] <kanwar> ok, i think its not firestarter or any other package ... its a script i got off the net
[12:52] <kanwar> let me check that page, jowi ... thanks for the link
[12:52] <Anak1n> i download
[12:52] <Anak1n> opera
[12:52] <Jowi> kanwar, use firestarter. really easy solution.
[12:53] <Feles> hello all, in need of a little help here
[12:53] <Jowi> !info firestarter
[12:53] <ubotu> firestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 518 kB, Installed size: 2348 kB
[12:53] <bzimage> feles.. so ask!
[12:53] <bzimage> :)
[12:54] <Feles> I tried installing Ubuntu on a box that already had Windows XP on it, and decided to quit once it came to the formatting of partitions... (quitting the installer completely,) but now I can't boot back into Win XP
[12:54] <ccooke> Feles: did you tell it to use all the disk?
[12:54] <Feles> no
[12:54] <inc|freaky> when i do ./configure it says: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check --> what package am i missin?
[12:55] <Anak1n> thanks
[12:55] <Anak1n> it's working
[12:55] <Anak1n> :)))
[12:55] <Feles> I said to "forget" all the changes to the partitions
[12:55] <Feles> and no
[12:55] <Feles> I told it not to touch the windows partition
[12:56] <Feles> Actually I told it to "forget" the changes, then I Ctrl-Alt-Del'd out of the installer
[12:57] <kanwar> jowi, okay let me try firestarter then ...
[12:57] <kanwar> thanks for all your help so far :)
[12:57] <rambo3> Feles : insert xp cd -> repair XP -> login as admin -> type FIXMBR
[12:57] <rambo3> if you still have XP on that is ,
[12:58] <Jowi> kanwar, that page make it very easy, step by step. i think that the script you have is not enabling ip forwarding properly. you're welcome
[12:58] <Mr-Falkor> There has been alot of xserver upgrades these last days
[12:58] <Mr-Falkor> I`ve had a xserver upgrade every day :S
[12:58] <Mr-Falkor> is that normal ?
[12:58] <Mr-Falkor> or is it just me ?
[12:59] <rambo3> just you
[12:59] <Mr-Falkor> humm
[12:59] <kanwar> jowi, okay i am currently installing firestarter ... i will follow the steps on the link you gave
[12:59] <Mr-Falkor> My apt gotta me fuck`d up then
[01:00] <LivingTarget> yeah xserver gets upgraded quite a lot, same for openoffice. It's about 100meg a day. I suppose you gotta really only update once a month
[01:00] <Micksa> I have a question about ooo calc
[01:00] <Micksa> where should I go for that?
[01:00] <LivingTarget> on breezy of course
[01:00] <Mr-Falkor> oh,.. good - my apt isnt fuck`d up =p
[01:00] <Jowi> Mr-Falkor, ubuntu is tailoring all the updates to fit you personally. it's the next big thing in "automatic updates" ;) but on the serious side, yes, Xorg has been through some bugfixing
[01:01] <Mr-Falkor> ;P
[01:01] <Jowi> crap, i forgot my coffee, now it's cold.
[01:01] <Mr-Falkor> =/
[01:02] <Mr-Falkor> well well,.. gotta go down to my GF now ;)
[01:02] <Mr-Falkor> c ya
[01:02] <Jowi> cu
[01:03] <tzapachuau> i have installed VLC in my ubuntu and there is no audio.
[01:03] <Jowi> tzapachuau, try "killall esd"
[01:03] <tzapachuau> ok
[01:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tzapachuau about sound
[01:04] <tzapachuau> works
[01:04] <tzapachuau> :)
[01:04] <kanwar> jowi, i started the firewall on the gateway PC but the situation is still the same ... do i have to install/configure it on the second computer as well?
[01:04] <tzapachuau> thanks alot
[01:04] <Feles> hrm.... logging into the repair console and typing FIXMBR didn't seem to work
[01:04] <Jowi> kanwar, nope. but you might need to restart the network on it
[01:05] <nalioth> Feles: go to bootdisk.com and get you a win98 boot cd image
[01:05] <kemik> Feles:  since you're not using ubuntu, it's a windows issue :P
[01:05] <Feles> lol
[01:05] <intelikey> how hard is it to upgrade ubuntu to debian ?
[01:06] <alexandros> tzapachuau: you need to install the esound plugin
[01:06] <nalioth> intelikey: it's not hard
[01:06] <nalioth> intelikey: it's impossible
[01:06] <kemik> intelikey:  i protest the use of "upgrade to debian"
[01:06] <Jowi> tzapachuau, esd plugin needed for vlc if you want to use that, or go with alsa all the way on the system
[01:06] <kemik> intelikey:  and you'd have to reinstall
[01:06] <tzapachuau> alexandros, i guess its already installed
[01:06] <tzapachuau> :)
    :)
[01:06] <tzapachuau> i have installed xmms before
[01:06] <[bugi] > hello ubunters
[01:06] <tzapachuau> maybe that have installed it
[01:07] <alexandros> tzapachuau: it is separate from the vlc install
[01:07] <kanwar> jowi, okay will reboot that machine now ...
[01:07] <rambo3> hell i would you debian too if sarge kernel supported my hardware
[01:07] <inc|freaky> what package are the x includes in?
[01:07] <alexandros> tzapachuau: I have to install it in to get sound from vlc
[01:07] <Jowi> inc|freaky, xserver-xorg
[01:07] <nalioth> inc|freaky: xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev
[01:07] <Jowi> oh, the includes
[01:07] <Jowi> sorry
[01:07] <tzapachuau> i just did killall esd
[01:07] <Feles> I can't find a win 98 boot cd image....
[01:07] <tzapachuau> and it works fine now
[01:07] <inc|freaky> thank you! :)
[01:08] <nalioth> Feles: it's there (any windows 9x boot floppy image will work)
[01:08] <inc|freaky> and where are the qt headers and libraries (which package?)
[01:09] <rambo3> if FIXMBR didnt work, he doeasnt need win 9x boot floppy
[01:09] <nalioth> inc|freaky: open your synaptic and search for "-dev" and find what you need
[01:09] <nalioth> rambo3: i have found FIXMBR to be useless
[01:09] <inc|freaky> im all new to ubuntu (using kubuntu)
[01:09] <nalioth> inc|freaky: then use kynaptic
[01:10] <inc|freaky> thx nalioth :) ill use apt-cache search -dev
[01:10] <nalioth> inc|freaky: you'll get more than you bargained for. better to use synaptic/kynaptic
[01:10] <intelikey> i've heard that "ntfs" doesn't use MBR   like fatXX did.
[01:10] <inc|freaky> ok will do
[01:10] <Jowi> kanwar, "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart" is quicker :)
[01:11] <kanwar> oh okay ... :)
[01:11] <nalioth> intelikey: it doesnt. but if grub or lilo is living in the MBR, windows wont load if grub/lilo gets foobared
[01:12] <inc|freaky> any1 got a cig? i have none left :(
[01:12] <inc|freaky> ;)
[01:12] <jack> dun dun dun, ok i'm back :D ... so i got java built and installed and now i'm trying to install azureus via the hoary-backports but i'm getting this wierd error ...
[01:13] <intelikey> the problem described, "[ctrl] [alt] [del]  out of partitioner" would not have gotten to the point of installing any boot loader.
[01:13] <jack> libswt-gtk-3.1-jni (
[01:13] <jack> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:13] <jack> azureus: Depends: libswt-gtk-3.1-java but it is not installable
[01:13] <jack> E: Broken packages
[01:14] <intelikey> more likely that an ntfs partition is awax'd .
[01:14] <Echelon-H> with what program can i burn mp3s to Audio CD?
[01:14] <Jowi> Echelon-H, graveman does it all
[01:14] <CzarAlex> im trying to install TKMoo-light and it reqires me to edit the make file to point to the location of my WISH file. I think I'm doing it right.. /usr/bin/wish8.4 but when i `make` it cannot be found in that directory, even though when i search for wish, i see it in that directory. Suggestions?
[01:15] <ice_1963> k3b and gnomebaker
[01:15] <nalioth> jack: what kind of java did you install?
[01:15] <intelikey> CzarAlex: have you tried path without the file name ?
[01:15] <nalioth> CzarAlex: did you open a terminal and type "which wish" ?
[01:16] <jack> nalioth, sun's linux installer + fakeroot (build a deb pkg) and install via dpkg
[01:16] <kanwar> okay jowi, here's what happened in the last 5-6 minutes that i was away: I restarted kubuntu on the second computer but it did not work ....
[01:16] <xcsd> someone here with breezy and workin ati drivers?
[01:16] <nalioth> jack: quit with backports..they're evil
[01:16] <CzarAlex> intelikey, No, there are `examples` in the make file and they all point to the path with name.
[01:16] <kanwar> however, i restarted it in SUSE and it worked!!!
[01:16] <CzarAlex> nalioth, oo no i didnt. one second.
[01:16] <nalioth> jack: go to azureus.sourceforge.net and pick the one of your choice
[01:16] <kanwar> i guess it points to the driver then, let me try and install it now
[01:16] <ice_1963> dpkg -i then the file
[01:16] <jack> nalioth, ok, i will, thanks ofr the pointer
[01:17] <xcsd> nalioth, backports are great
[01:17] <tzapachuau> i have installed amarok
[01:17] <CzarAlex> nalioth, usr/bin/wish
[01:17] <tzapachuau> and while the wizzard was running
[01:17] <BiSK-8> hello
[01:17] <tzapachuau> i was playing VLC
[01:17] <Jowi> kanwar, oh dear oh dear. so it might be either driver or wierd setup on nic3 then. good to know that at least your gateway is configged ok!
[01:17] <BiSK-8> i got a bit of a problem
[01:17] <tzapachuau> now i have the same sound prob
[01:17] <tzapachuau> killall esd
[01:17] <tzapachuau> did not help
[01:17] <Feles> nalioth I... can't seem to find CD images ... I can find floppy images... but I don't have floppy drives on both computers
[01:17] <nalioth> CzarAlex: then use that path
[01:17] <BiSK-8> i updated my ubuntu, but nothing happened
[01:17] <BiSK-8> its all the same
[01:17] <kemik> xcsd:  the idea of backports is great... but that backports keep breaking things aint great
[01:17] <nalioth> Feles: got a livecd?
[01:18] <Feles> sorry about that
[01:18] <CaiN_SA> lol BiSK-8
[01:18] <Feles> nalioth of ubuntu? yes?
[01:18] <kanwar> jowi, yeah ... thanks to you!!
[01:18] <Feles> er... yes I do
[01:18] <BiSK-8> ur laffin' im cryin'
[01:18] <xcsd> ok
[01:18] <CzarAlex> nalioth, I have been and even when i make, it cannot be found. shall I post the output?
[01:18] <tzapachuau> in the configure/engine
[01:18] <CaiN_SA> BiSK-8, what did you think will happen ?
[01:18] <tzapachuau> i have only
[01:18] <nalioth> Feles: load it and fdisk /mbr
[01:18] <Feles> okie doke
[01:18] <tzapachuau> aRts Engine
[01:18] <kanwar> if i can get it working soon enough i'll let you know ...
[01:18] <Feles> brb
[01:18] <tzapachuau> which did not play my mp3
[01:18] <nalioth> CzarAlex: to a pastebin please
[01:18] <intelikey> BiSK-8: what did you update ubuntu to?  debian ?  :)
[01:18] <alexandros> tzapachuau: afterwards you have to select for the audio output
[01:18] <BiSK-8> another logon page cain_sa
[01:18] <Jowi> tzapachuau, esd is a sound daemon. either you use esd or alsa. it is a mess using them both at the same time.
[01:18] <CaiN_SA> BiSK-8, rofl
[01:18] <Echelon-H> have anyone had any success running ventrilo ?
[01:19] <BiSK-8> no, i updated from hoary 2 breezy
[01:19] <tzapachuau> okay
[01:19] <tzapachuau> but i cant use esd now
[01:19] <tzapachuau> its not in the option
[01:19] <CzarAlex> nalioth, of course. here is the top half of the make file. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2630
[01:19] <CaiN_SA> BiSK-8, their basicly the same :(
[01:19] <xcsd> dont use esd
[01:19] <xcsd> it sux
[01:19] <BiSK-8> why, is it possibile 2 update 2 debian?
[01:19] <CaiN_SA> BiSK-8, no
[01:19] <BiSK-8> argh
[01:19] <BiSK-8> ok
[01:20] <temperboi> hello, can someone help me? new to linux.
[01:20] <CaiN_SA> it will break everything
[01:20] <xcsd> its possible, but dont try this at home :)
[01:20] <CaiN_SA> temperboi, with what ?
[01:20] <intelikey> BiSK-8: you missed a bit on that eariler....  :)
[01:20] <Jowi> tzapachuau, "esd" or "sudo esd"  should start it again
[01:20] <temperboi> trying to install xmms but it say GLIB missing
[01:20] <tzapachuau> ok
[01:20] <CzarAlex> nalioth, Now. I've been adding a line under WISH8.3	= /usr/local/bin/wish8.3 . to WISH8.4	= /usr/bin/wish8.4
[01:20] <nalioth> CzarAlex: and you've run the ./configure and it errors out?
[01:20] <temperboi> and like i installed all the stuff in development
[01:20] <BiSK-8> so, in the wiki page, i did all it says, then step 2, ti gives me error
[01:20] <CzarAlex> nalioth, install directions dont mention ./configure
[01:20] <Jowi> tzapachuau, i would suggest not using esd at all though. i removed it and is only using alsa instead.
[01:21] <BiSK-8> and i am sudo
[01:21] <nalioth> CzarAlex: the makefile looks to me like it is pretty well cut and dried
[01:21] <temperboi> uhmm.. can i paste links to screenshots? i take them while installing,.
[01:21] <ice_1963> hello sudo
[01:21] <tzapachuau> i did esd
[01:21] <tzapachuau> then there is a sound
[01:21] <CzarAlex> nalioth, lemme run it and post output
[01:21] <tzapachuau> but amarok did not work
[01:21] <ice_1963> how are you lol
[01:21] <BiSK-8> -.-
[01:21] <BiSK-8> -.-'
[01:22] <BiSK-8> -.-"
[01:22] <BiSK-8> -.-'''
[01:22] <temperboi> CaiN_SA, can you check this is the screenshot, http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5568/glib4ej.jpg
[01:22] <temperboi> http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3541/glib24le.jpg
[01:22] <CzarAlex> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2631
[01:22] <Jowi> tzapachuau, are you in kde now? there's a #kubuntu
[01:22] <tzapachuau> not in KDE
[01:22] <tzapachuau> gnome i suppose
[01:23] <ice_1963> gnome is the best
[01:23] <nalioth> CzarAlex: it built. is there a problem with it?
[01:23] <intelikey> ice_1963: cause why ?
[01:23] <tzapachuau> i think i'll better use xmms
[01:23] <tzapachuau> :)
[01:24] <CzarAlex> nalioth, yes. I can't find it to run? would I just type tkmoo-light or tkmoo in to the run command? either one doesnt work for me.
[01:24] <ice_1963> ok kde is better
[01:24] <Jowi> tzapachuau, ah, very well. "killall esd" + gnome->system->prefs->sound: untick "enable sound server at startup" + gnome->system->prefs->multimedia something: default output sink: ALSA. then tell your programs to use alsa instead of esd. solution = perfect :)
[01:25] <ice_1963> :0)
[01:25] <nalioth> CzarAlex: in the terminal you built from, type ./tkmoo or ./tkmoo-light (tab completion is your friend)
[01:25] <intelikey> ice_1963: cause why ?
[01:25] <CzarAlex> nalioth, thats the * right?
[01:25] <nalioth> you guys can take your interface discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:25] <ice_1963> it's linux ok
[01:25] <nalioth> CzarAlex: whats the *?
[01:25] <Feles> and back.... in ubuntu live boot... and nalioth, ubuntu is unable to open /mbr
[01:25] <nalioth> Feles: use sudo?
[01:26] <Feles> nope, still unable to
[01:26] <CaiN_SA> sigh temperboi , why you compiling xmms ?
[01:26] <CzarAlex> nalioth, Oo it worked. Sorry. Wrong usage of * . thanks for your help this morning.
[01:26] <nalioth> Feles: the missing floppy drive is gonna be the death of us all
[01:26] <Feles> greeeeat
[01:26] <tzapachuau> it seems my xmms is frozen
[01:26] <intelikey> nalioth: just kick me out of here.  i don't use ubuntu anyway....
[01:26] <nalioth> CzarAlex: is there an install script in there?
[01:27] <temperboi> CaiN_SA, why not?
[01:27] <Jowi> tzapachuau, yeah, better quit all programs before making all the sound changes.
[01:27] <ice_1963> windowmaker is better
[01:27] <CzarAlex> nalioth, actually there is. make install . do I need to run that even though i can get the prog to run?
[01:27] <Jowi> ice_1963, WM rocks.
[01:27] <aris[glande] > hello people. I am trying to download the whole dependancies needed for runing "geda" on a ubuntu box at home which has no internet connection. How may I list the deps ? (I am running on an other ubuntu box but not sure some deps are already installed and won't be downloaded by apt-get -d)
[01:27] <nalioth> !tell CzarAlex about checkinstall
[01:27] <tzapachuau> even this xchat?
[01:27] <nalioth> aris[glande] : use apt-zip
[01:28] <Jowi> tzapachuau, not if it not use any sound events you don't have to
[01:28] <aris[glande] > nalioth, didn't know about it. just going to see
[01:28] <CzarAlex> nalioth, ok thank you.
[01:28] <Feles> is there any way of working around the missing disk drive?
[01:28] <havoc> nalioth: slick :)
[01:28] <temperboi> CaiN_SA, still here?
[01:28] <skjsl> how do i install java in apt
[01:28] <havoc> hmm, no apt-zip :(
[01:28] <skjsl> it say it not there
[01:28] <aris[glande] > hmm apt-zip is not installed on this computer
[01:29] <skjsl> :(
[01:29] <nalioth> CzarAlex: if you compile a lot of your own stuff, checkinstall is your friend when it comes time for system maintenance
[01:29] <aris[glande] > and i cannot install it due to strange apt rules
[01:29] <havoc> aris[glande] : apt-get install apt-zip
[01:29] <havoc> bah
[01:29] <Jowi> Feles, my suggestion would be to go through with the ubuntu install. you can resize the win partition there and probably make it all work fine.
[01:29] <tzapachuau> thanks guys
[01:29] <tzapachuau> with your help
[01:30] <tzapachuau> its nice to play with Ubuntu (Linux)
[01:30] <aris[glande] > havoc, the admins have set a local repository directory and it's not mounted
[01:30] <temperboi> can i be next in the help list? :(
[01:30] <tzapachuau> Now i really agree that linux can do something than just a system Beep
[01:30] <nalioth> Feles: waht was your original question? i just assumed you wanted to clean your /mbr
[01:30] <CzarAlex> nalioth, heh and I need friends when using linux :0 thanks again.
[01:30] <Feles> I wanted to be able to boot back into Windows.
[01:30] <Feles> not just clean it
[01:30] <kemik> temperboi:  what's the error?
[01:30] <nalioth> CzarAlex: got a whole room of em
[01:30] <kemik> Feles:  call windows-support :P
[01:30] <aris[glande] > hmm just downed them by hand. I hope I won't miss any package
[01:31] <nalioth> Feles: cleaning the /mbr will bring back a windows only system
[01:31] <temperboi> http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3541/glib24le.jpg  << screenshot of glib error
[01:31] <havoc> nalioth: even NT/2K/XP?
[01:31] <Jowi> Feles, go through with the install of ubuntu. you will in the end get a bootloader that possibly can boot your windows partition.
[01:31] <nalioth> aris[glande] : in a terminal, type "apt-cache showpkg <pkgname>" and it'll show you the packages necessary
[01:31] <Feles> lol the possibly isn't very reassuring
[01:31] <Feles> but I suppose I'll try to go through with it.
[01:31] <kemik> temperboi:  "sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev"
[01:31] <Feles> Thanks guys.
[01:32] <Jowi> Feles, well, since you aborted and it failed, that is my best bet
[01:32] <nalioth> havoc: windows doesnt use the /mbr
[01:32] <Feles> yeah
[01:32] <kemik> temperboi:  i'm assuming youve installed "build-essential" aswell since you seem to have the compilers etc installed
[01:32] <havoc> nalioth: oh yeah, first bootable drive is where it's bootloader goes
[01:32] <ice_1963> what is window's
[01:32] <Feles> well, be back in a lil while, hopefully.
[01:32] <temperboi> kemik, thanks, but i have installed everything in development.
[01:32] <skjsl> could anyone tell me why apt no longer has java?
[01:32] <skjsl> I mean the ubnutu reposotorys
[01:33] <johnnybezak> anyone know of a good howto for rsync w/ ssh
[01:33] <nalioth> skjsl: distribution legalities
[01:33] <nalioth> skjsl: which java did you want?
[01:33] <havoc> johnnybezak: yes, hang on
[01:33] <atha> temperboi: why are you compiling the xmms, isn't the packaged xmms good enough?
[01:33] <BiSK-8> how can i uninstall xmms?
[01:33] <skjsl> nalioth: I just want the runtime j2r**bla
[01:33] <humulus> apt-get remove xmms
[01:33] <nalioth> BiSK-8: apt-get remove xmms
[01:33] <nalioth> skjsl: hoary or breezy?
[01:33] <BiSK-8> k
[01:33] <kemik> temperboi:  try libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2  and libg++<IP_ADDRESS>-glibc2.2
[01:33] <havoc> johnnybezak: I use a setup very similar to this: http://www.jdmz.net/ssh/
[01:33] <BiSK-8> thx
[01:33] <temperboi> atha, i cant install it
[01:34] <kemik> maybe
[01:34] <atha> temperboi: why, what's the matter with it
[01:34] <kemik> temperboi:  what's the error on apt-getting xmms ?
[01:35] <ice_1963> xmms and streamtuner rock's
[01:35] <AnThony> helllo
[01:35] <temperboi> im tryinh to install it in a computer with no internet so i guess it didnt find it.. so i downloaded another package and try compiliing it. its what i read from forums tho.
[01:35] <atha> ice_1963: could you please stop that mindless babble about "this and that rocks"
[01:35] <ice_1963> with sid that is
[01:36] <Jowi> hello AnThony
[01:36] <kemik> temperboi:  you should have downloaded the deb from the ubuntu rep's
[01:37] <temperboi> yes, that the deb file.. do i need to unzip it or i run the apt-get install?
[01:37] <kemik> dpkg -i file.deb
[01:37] <BiSK-8> are there any programs 4 ubuntu that support a usb bluetooth device since its made for windows?
[01:38] <atha> BiSK-8: I guess that it's supported out of the box
[01:38] <BiSK-8> what?
[01:38] <BiSK-8> what does that mean?
[01:38] <atha> just plug it in, and run "hciconfig" to see information about the device
[01:38] <nalioth> BiSK-8: wants to know where the bluetooth manager is
[01:38] <xiaogil> Is there an atlas freeware for linux ?
[01:39] <BiSK-8> ok
[01:39] <skjsl> nalioth: hoary
[01:39] <BiSK-8> i ran hciconfig
[01:39] <BiSK-8> now what?
[01:39] <temperboi> i have installed ubuntu in another computer with no internet, so is it possible to download the source and change to repositories to my disk directory?
[01:39] <nalioth> skjsl: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/   have fun
[01:39] <jack> nalioth : i got it up and running np, thanks again
[01:40] <nalioth> jack: great!
[01:40] <BiSK-8> atha, nalioth, now what?
[01:40] <atha> BiSK-8: what do you want to do with it?
[01:40] <kemik> temperboi:  if you can retrieve the files from a disk, just use Dpkg
[01:40] <BiSK-8> send files 2 another bluetooth device atha
[01:40] <temperboi> ok thanks..
[01:40] <atha> did the hciconfig show that it's running ok (UP RUNNING etc. line in the output and address and all)
[01:41] <BiSK-8> atha: i wanna send files 2 another bluetooth device
[01:43] <BiSK-8> atha, are you here?
[01:45] <skjsl> nalioth:  Thanks heaps :)! whats the brezzy one for future use
[01:45] <BiSK-8> nalioth, can u help me?
[01:45] <nalioth> skjsl: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[01:45] <skjsl> :D
[01:45] <nalioth> BiSK-8: i can only recommend asking uncle google for "linux bluetooth manager" or something like that (i have no bluetooth or ideas)
[01:46] <BiSK-8> ok
[01:46] <BiSK-8> thx
[01:49] <MrLaminar> hi
[01:49] <MrLaminar> how can i copy tahoba*.ttf from my windows installation to ubuntu and enable it?
[01:50] <MrLaminar> oopps... tahoma*.ttf
[01:51] <Jowi> MrLaminar, i guess you just put it somewhere in /usr/share/fonts
[01:52] <Jowi> MrLaminar, there is also a way to make the font only available to a specific user by placing it in /home/user/.fonts
[01:52] <atha> BiSK-8: are you sending to a mobile phone or what?
[01:52] <atha> or another linux computer or windows?
[01:52] <MrLaminar> thanks jowi, do i have to update anything else?
[01:53] <Jowi> it takes awhile for the font to get updated
[01:53] <MrLaminar> ok, it did now
[01:53] <MrLaminar> thx
[01:53] <Jowi> MrLaminar, should be automatic.... i think... ehhhh.
[01:53] <Jowi> :)
[01:53] <atha> BiSK-8: check that you have "gnome-bluetooth" package installed "sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth"
[01:53] <Tooheys> can anyone tell me if I install ubuntu can I still use my bluetooth adapter?
[01:54] <Tooheys> ohh hehehe what timing!
[01:54] <atha> after that, you can send files from command line using "gnome-obex-send filename" and a GUI appears which shows other bluetooth devices
[01:54] <gorilla> hi all, does anyone know of a pastebin that allows you to attach binaries (images).
[01:55] <housetier> imgshack or so allows to post images
[01:55] <atha> I think I saw a nautilus extension sometimes which provided a rigth-click context menu entry for bluetooth sending
[01:55] <glick> excuse me, im trying to run a progam and i get this error message
[01:55] <glick> Qt: Locales not supported on X server
[01:55] <glick> cannot handle file 'libc.so.6' with TLS data
[01:56] <glick> does anyone know what thats all about>
[01:56] <Jowi> gorilla, you can host them on your freshly installed apache webserver :)
[01:57] <gorilla> Jowi, I though of that... Not when I am behind a ADSL modem that is a piece of shit.. but stuck with it...
[01:58] <Eddy_> hello
[01:58] <Jowi> gorilla, ah. point taken.
[01:58] <coobra> lol
[01:59] <Eddy_> anyone to help me with a problem involving GRUB/MBR/ubuntu install on a laptop comp ? been spending 5 hours on it and still stuck =/
[01:59] <Jowi> Eddy_, be more precise ...
[01:59] <glick> hey can linux run programs for macOSX?
[01:59] <Eddy_> well it's quite long, that's why i'm not more specific
[02:00] <Jowi> Eddy_, what is the symptoms and where did it fail your boot?
[02:00] <dmacdonald111> Hi all. I have managed to get ubuntu to register lo & eth0 as it registers correctly, but I still seem to be unable to connect to the internet with the wireless lan. Can anyone help?
[02:00] <Eddy_> i installed breezy over hoary, asking the partitions to be formatted. it did, but when it tried to install GRUB, it failed. i rebooted, and GRUB is missing (Error 15). so i tried to install again, but then it doesn't find my partitions, it only displays "??? ???". using the RIP tool, though, it DOES find my partitions, so all hope is not lost. but i need help to make the install working (finding my partitions)
[02:01] <kemik> Eddy_:  since you've no stuff on your partitions, just make a clean install again
[02:01] <kemik> with hoary
[02:01] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, wireless lan... are you connecting to a  router or does it go through another computer?
[02:01] <kemik> and wait for breezy to be released
[02:02] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: Its through a router.
[02:02] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, can you ping the router?
[02:02] <Eddy_> kemik it is very possible that this won't solve the problem, so i don't feel like going through 10 hours of download just to reinstall hoary, and to have to install breezy all over again in two weeks
[02:03] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: No.  Just for reference, I am currently using the livecd for mepis linux (also debian based) and I don't even need to configure here.
[02:05] <intelikey> johnnybezak: why ?
[02:05] <bimberi> hutgyrr: cd $OLDPWD
[02:05] <Jowi> Eddy_, not really....
[02:05] <hutgyrr> bimberi: neat
[02:05] <johnnybezak> intelikey: packages mainly. everything i want ubuntu just has, debian doesn't. i'm just used to ubuntu i suppose, the little differences are enough to give me the sh*ts
[02:06] <hutgyrr> what does PWD stand for
[02:06] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, what ip and subnet do you get from the router?
[02:06] <cafuego_> path working directory
[02:06] <intelikey> present working dir.
[02:06] <cafuego_> or that
[02:06] <cafuego_> basically, the dir you're in.
[02:06] <hutgyrr> ah, and is there a way to see other variables like that
[02:06] <vader1102> cafuego, good morning
[02:06] <atha> it seems that bluetooth plugin is missing from the breezy package of nautilus-sendto - I wonder is it intentionally or unintentionally
[02:06] <Jowi> Eddy_, i have not tried Breezy yet
[02:06] <cafuego_> hutgyrr: type 'set'.
[02:07] <cafuego_> vader1102: evenin'
[02:07] <vader1102> lol
[02:07] <Eddy_> i don't think it's breezy related
[02:07] <Skid> hm, isn't openvpn server in apt repo's? :o
[02:07] <Eddy_> i would like to know how to reset my MBR, much like the fdisk /mbr command
[02:07] <kemik> Eddy_:  that's how you do it
[02:07] <kemik> Eddy_:  if you got a livecd etc
[02:07] <vader1102> I am using Breezy right now and love it....it does what I have asked it to do. and more
[02:07] <kemik> but i guess GRUB is fubar'ed then
[02:07] <cafuego_> !find openvpn
[02:08] <ubotu> openvpn: (Virtual Private Network daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.99+2.rc6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 279 kB, Installed size: 840 kB
[02:08] <kemik> vader1102:  good for you.. but that's not the case for everyone
[02:08] <Skid> server :P
[02:08] <Eddy_> i can burn a livecd, but how would i do the "fdisk /mbr" equivalent from there ?
[02:08] <Skid> not client
[02:08] <Skid> oh
[02:08] <Skid> hm, wtf
[02:08] <Eddy_> "fubar'ed" ? sorry, not english =)
[02:08] <vader1102> kemik, I know....just had to put in my 2 cents worth..I will be quiet now
[02:08] <Skid> fubar was a term used in WW2 (or 1 now can't remember) meaning f**ked up beyond all recognision
[02:08] <hutgyrr> what kind of use could you have to mess around with a VPN at home
[02:08] <kemik> Eddy_:  fucked up beyond all recognition
[02:08] <Eddy_> oh that
[02:08] <Eddy_> yeah, quite so
[02:08] <Eddy_> =)
[02:09] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: I get ip as <IP_ADDRESS>. But subnet?
[02:09] <cafuego_> <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:09] <kemik> Eddy_:  i think you should try "reinstalling grub"
[02:09] <bzimage> c class adress... private use: subnet <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:09] <kemik> or something
[02:09] <kemik> !grub
[02:09] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:09] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, "ifconfig" will show you. look for "mask"
[02:10] <Eddy_> i'll look into that again, but the problem is that when i first tried to install it, within the regular ubuntu install, it CRASHED
[02:10] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: ah, <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:10] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, that is correct for your ip address
[02:10] <Eddy_> and further attempts saw it crash again
[02:11] <kemik> Eddy_:  well, that cant be good
[02:11] <Eddy_> no, but since RIP sees the partition table correctly, that is not too bad either
[02:11] <glick> do you guys think that the windows version of interactive C will work on wine?
[02:11] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: Currently (with mepis as I'm using now) I get lo and wlan0 from ifconfig, but in ubuntu I have lo & eth0
[02:11] <hutgyrr> would there be a way to set your own variables up for say last three working directorys?
[02:11] <johnnybezak> how do I install a .deb that I've d/led
[02:11] <johnnybezak> ?
[02:11] <hutgyrr> dpgk
[02:11] <havoc> dpkg -i blah.deb
[02:11] <teenie> is there a online    games for uuubuntu?
[02:11] <ishit> juicy ripper not workin anyone any idea
[02:11] <irvin> teenie: yup
[02:12] <johnnybezak> teenie: what sort of machine do you have?
[02:12] <ubuntuguy> does anyone know how to roll back using bazaar(bzr)?
[02:12] <intelikey> Eddy_: i have to agree with the eariler advice.   just reinstall the system.    something is "fubar"  there.
[02:12] <teenie> ubuntu
[02:12] <bimberi> hutgyrr: you could write your own cd command (as a shell script) to do it
[02:12] <teenie> what machine?
[02:12] <Eddy_> intelikey i am willing to reinstall the system, except that the system does not see any partition in the partition table, but that ominous "??? ???" line
[02:12] <ishit> is there much difference betwen hoary n breezy
[02:13] <ubuntuguy> the bazaar wiki doesn't cover roll back. anyone out there use bzr?
[02:13] <ishit> ANYONE
[02:13] <intelikey> so use a live cd or something and fix your partitions then reinstalllllll
[02:13] <glick> has anyone used interactive C on linux
[02:13] <ishit> huh
[02:14] <Eddy_> intelikey and how would i do that please ?
[02:14] <intelikey> cfdisk
[02:14] <cafuego_> Interactive C?
[02:14] <ubuntuguy> anyone know where I can get more help, info or tutorial on bazaar?
[02:14] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, yes. you must run iwconfig to set up the wireless part. you need wlan0
[02:15] <cafuego_> hutgyrr: use the 'pushd' and 'popd' commands.
[02:15] <Eddy_> using the RIP tool, cfdisk had no option about fixing the partition table. i mean, i could mess with it, but there was nothing like "fix the mbr" or "rewrite the mbr" or whatnot
[02:15] <ubuntuguy> this is all I can find http://bazaar.canonical.com/Documentation#head-ddbe42596fd234725872d19faa85c3cf28301c34
[02:15] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:16] <intelikey> no not the mbr.   the partitions   then let grub take care of mbr
[02:17] <Eddy_> intelikey what do you call "fix the partitions" then ? aas i've said, RIP recognizes them no problem, so i don't see what i'm supposed to "fix" there
[02:17] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: I have tried to use iwconfig wlan0, but I just get device not found
[02:17] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, and eth0 should not be enabled once you get the wlan configured.
[02:17] <Jowi> ubotu, tell dmacdonald111 about wireless
[02:18] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, have a look at that linkn ubotu gave you.
[02:19] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: Yes, I have been there and I need ndiswrapper (which I have) but I don't seem to be able to find the bcmwl5a.inf file. I have been searching for it for over a day now. :(
[02:19] <intelikey> Eddy_: let me see if i understand you.   when installing ub the partitioner cant find any partitions.  but "RIP" what ever that is. sees them just fine .....    and the problem is not breezy specific.....  ?    hmmm   maybe reinstall hoary ????
[02:19] <[bugi] > Hello, where can i find OOo RC1 for Hoary?
[02:20] <glick> hey how do i install a windows application with wine?
[02:20] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, can't help you there.
[02:20] <dmacdonald111> okay. Thanks for your help though :)
[02:20] <Eddy_> intelikey RIP is Recovery Is Possible, a Recovery tool that is recommended by plenty for dealing with MBR problems among other things.
[02:21] <Eddy_> and the problem arose when installing GRUB
[02:21] <glick> how do i install a windows program with wine?
[02:21] <Eddy_> so i THINK that the problem is GRUB related
[02:21] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: I can find it as a .exe - can I use that?
[02:21] <Eddy_> that GRUB mucked up the partition table, and so i want to FIX IT
[02:21] <Eddy_> not install anything else
[02:21] <cafuego_> glick: wine foo.exe and cross your fingers
[02:21] <glick> hehe
[02:21] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, the driver is sort of vital :) no idea about that .exe. perhaps with wine.
[02:21] <glick> thanks
[02:21] <intelikey> so fix it.
[02:22] <glick> god i hope this works
[02:22] <Eddy_> intelikey why do you hang here if you do that kind of answer ?
[02:22] <dmacdonald111> Thank you Jowi. I hadn't thought about wine. I shall give that a go
[02:22] <cafuego_> note that foo.exe needs to be somewhere ona  drive mapped under wine. (try /home or /tmp)
[02:22] <cafuego_> glick: What app?
[02:22] <Eddy_> i mean, i thought it was about helping people, not answering like that.
[02:23] <glick> cafuego, interactive C
[02:23] <glick> it says it installed fine
[02:23] <glick> so where would i run it from?>
[02:23] <teenie> is there anybody who have tried turbolinux?
[02:24] <cafuego_> glick: Where did you install it to?
[02:24] <cafuego_> glick: check .wine/c_drive/Program Files/...
[02:25] <glick> cafuego, yeah i see it
[02:25] <cafuego_> when again wine foo.exe
[02:25] <glick> ls
[02:25] <cafuego_> .
[02:25] <cafuego_> ..
[02:26] <cafuego_> Password:
[02:27] <flux_> What should i type in console to configure WINE?
[02:27] <intelikey> wine[tab]
[02:28] <intelikey>  [tab]  = the tab key
[02:28] <intelikey> bash tab compleation is your friend
[02:29] <bzimage> [tab]
[02:29] <ayeizajedi> hi everyone
[02:29] <bzimage> *yay*
[02:29] <flux_> How do i start WINE?
[02:30] <benno> hi, my ubuntu hoary gnome closes programs when i minimize them, instead of putting them to a panel-tab... whats wrong?
[02:30] <whyameye> Is there a something like ndiswrapper for modems?
[02:30] <Jowi> flux_, you don't "start" it as such. you run exe files with it.
[02:30] <intelikey> wine <windows-program>
[02:30] <intelikey> wine <path>/notepad.exe
[02:30] <flux_> How du i install ATC Radar Screen(its on desktop)
[02:30] <teenie> how to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?
[02:30] <cafuego_> Well, you can use binfmt-misc and wine to tweak .exe's to run via wine automagically.
[02:30] <teenie> how to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?
[02:30] <teenie> how to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?
[02:31] <cafuego_> teenie: stop repeating
[02:31] <teenie> ok
[02:31] <flux_> What is binfmt-misc?
[02:31] <teenie> im ssory
[02:31] <teenie> im ssory
[02:31] <ayeizajedi> lol
[02:31] <teenie> how to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?
[02:31] <dpro\> teenie, do you have mplayer?
[02:31] <teenie> nothin
[02:32] <cafuego_> flux_: a way of using file magic (see /etc/magic) to automagically run interpreted executables. So you cna say make a .jar file execitable and automatically run 'java -jar foo.jar' when you type ./foo.jar. Same applies to .exe and wine.
[02:32] <teenie> where i can get that/
[02:32] <dpro\> teenie, open a terminal, type sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[02:32] <flux_> cafuego, have you MSN?
[02:32] <glick> when i try to set the com port in my windows app i get this...
[02:32] <glick> fixme:comm:SetupComm insize 2048 outsize 2048 unimplemented stub
[02:32] <glick> fixme:comm:SetCommState RTS_CONTROL_TOGGLE is not supported.
[02:32] <glick> IC: Serial port (pre)connected
[02:33] <cafuego_> The first two letters of that acronym should tell you...
[02:33] <glick> i guess that means im screwed right?
[02:33] <dpro\> teenie, and then in a terminal type mplayer the url to the radiostream
[02:33] <flux_> ?
[02:35] <hutgyrr> when you install apache on ubuntu the debian placeholder page comes up
[02:35] <cafuego_> yes
[02:36] <flux_> Is it someone speaking norwegian here?
[02:36] <hutgyrr> why hasn't it been changed?
[02:36] <dpro\> flux_, jeg taler dansk hvis det kan hjlpe
[02:36] <flux_> Fint;)
[02:36] <flux_> Vet du hvordan jeg setter opp Wine?
[02:37] <dpro\> flux_, du har installeret det, ikke?
[02:37] <glick> any way i can run a macOS X program in linux?
[02:37] <flux_> jo...
[02:37] <teenie> cccouldnt find the package
[02:37] <dpro\> flux_, virker det s ikke nr du skriver wine og sti til programmet som skal kre?
[02:38] <flux_> ok
[02:38] <flux_> Hvordan gjr jeg det ved  starte noe p skrivebordet?
[02:38] <dpro\> flux_, "wine /sti/til/filen/som/ligger/p/skrivebordet/lalalal.exe
[02:39] <skjsl> wiill anyoff this http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[02:39] <deFrysk> !se
[02:39] <skjsl> run .mov?
[02:39] <ubotu> No idea, deFrysk
[02:39] <flux_> /home/flux/Desktop/Setup.exe?
[02:39] <deFrysk> !norge
[02:39] <ubotu> deFrysk: Not a clue
[02:39] <deFrysk> tss
[02:39] <flux_> deFRYSk,er du norsk?
[02:39] <dpro\> flux_, ja bare med wine frst
[02:39] <skjsl> sorry
[02:40] <skjsl> slip of the keys
[02:40] <deFrysk> no you guys should go to #ubuntu-no or something
[02:40] <dpro\> wine /home/flux/Desktop/Setup.exe
[02:40] <deFrysk> this is ang english channel folks
[02:40] <flux_> flux@xp1700:~$ wine /home/flux/Desktop/Setup.exe
[02:40] <flux_> bash: wine: command not found
[02:40] <skjsl> http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs if i follow this will .movs work for me?
[02:41] <dpro\> flux_, du har installeret wine, ikke?
[02:41] <deFrysk> skjsl, ubuntuguide is evil
[02:41] <skjsl> lol
[02:41] <skjsl> too true
[02:41] <deepwoodz> i'm trying to install a tarbell and every time i type su it tells me to type in my password and i type it in and it says authentication failure
[02:41] <flux_> jo... Det er installert
[02:41] <deFrysk> dpro\, this is ang english only channel
[02:41] <deepwoodz> can anyone help?
[02:41] <whyameye> skjsl, it should, if you install mplayer and the mplayer plug-in (if you wish to watch .movs in firefox)
[02:41] <flux_> Har du MSN dpro\?
[02:41] <deFrysk> flux_, please
[02:42] <kanwar> jowi, you there?
[02:42] <Jowi> deepwoodz, try "sudo su"
[02:42] <whyameye> skjsl, I found some.movs don't play correctly, and you can also play .movs using Apple Quicktime and Wine.
[02:42] <Jowi> kanwar, yep, just got back
[02:42] <deepwoodz> ok thanks
[02:42] <dpro\> deFrysk, sorry
[02:42] <kanwar> jowi, it worked!
[02:42] <mahangu> gnutella, edonkey client for ubuntu?
[02:42] <kanwar> i compiled and loaded sk98lin finally
[02:42] <skjsl> whyameye: will totem do it
[02:42] <Jowi> superb kanwar :)
[02:42] <kanwar> earlier it had something like skge loaded
[02:42] <skjsl> whyameye: mplayer is unstable for me
[02:42] <deepwoodz> thanks alot
[02:43] <kanwar> hey thanks to you for helping me out ... it was quite frustrating trying to figure it out alone!
[02:43] <Tooheys> before i get all excited about isntalling ubunto does it recognise sata drives ?
[02:43] <Jowi> kanwar, no probs. glad i could be of some use
[02:43] <whyameye> skjsl, yes totem will do it.
[02:43] <kanwar> *grin* now to try and install it on my Compaq nc6220 laptop and configure the wifi hehehe
[02:43] <Tooheys> I tried the live cd but could not find my windows hard drives ?
[02:44] <Jowi> kanwar, you really enjoy deep troublesome waters, haha
[02:44] <XHK> How do i install deb files?
[02:44] <cafuego_> Tooheys: Yes, it does.
[02:44] <kanwar> jowi, that's how i plan to learn everything :)
[02:44] <Jowi> XHK, dpkg -i package.deb
[02:44] <XHK> ty
[02:45] <kanwar> jowi, everything that i can, that is
[02:45] <Tooheys> cafuego: cheers. where are they ?
[02:45] <whyameye> XHK download the .deb file, then type dpkg -i <filename>
[02:45] <cafuego_> Tooheys: In your computer?  ;-)  They show up as SCSI. sda etc.
[02:45] <Tooheys> cafuego: hehe. I looked in mount and dev and couldnt seem to find anything that ressembled my windows ntfs drives ?
[02:45] <Jowi> kanwar, same here :)
[02:46] <cafuego_> !ntfs
[02:46] <joachim_> hi
[02:46] <cafuego_> Tooheys: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[02:46] <cafuego_> Tooheys: That scans for NTFS etc partitions.
[02:46] <Tooheys> cafuego does !ntfs mean out of the box the ubuntu distro won't read windows drives?
[02:46] <Tooheys> ahh ok, i will try it..
[02:47] <cafuego_> Tooheys: it will, you just need to mount 'em.
[02:47] <kanwar> thanks jowi ... i'll sign off tonight ... i am here in Sydney, Australia and its sleep time ... 11.00 pm almost
[02:47] <XHK> it will say   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[02:47] <whyameye> I have a modem with an ESS chipset. From what I could learn on Google, ESS and Linux don't play well together. Is there a wrapper for windows drivers for modems, something like what ndiswrapper is for wireless?
[02:47] <Jowi> cu kanwar
[02:47] <cafuego_> Amazing, it's nowhere near bed time in Melbourne
[02:47] <joachim_>  which gnome package handles folder sharing?
[02:48] <cafuego_> joachim_: by default, either samba or nfs.
[02:48] <Tooheys> its 10:47pm here on the mid-north coast.. sleep is a few hours away hehe
[02:48] <Tooheys> I hope it's a Tooheys Extra Dry and not that shithouse VB you mexicans like to drink :P
[02:48] <joachim_> I don't have either installed yet -- I'm getting a 'Sharing services are not installed' warning. is that just a part of nautilus?
[02:48] <cafuego_> Speaking of which. Now's as good a time as any.
[02:48] <Jowi> for a moment there i thought "beers" was "beds"
[02:49] <Jowi> lol
[02:49] <skjsl> whyameye: um what is the name of the package that runs .mov?
[02:49] <cafuego_> Tooheys: I'm a cultured European, thankyou.
[02:49] <joachim_> I want to file an enhancemnet in bugzilla
[02:49] <cafuego_> Tooheys: Not some filthy convict ;-)
[02:49] <Tooheys> cafuego: hehe wog ?
[02:49] <cafuego_> clog wog
[02:49] <cafuego_> (no aussie passport)
[02:50] <Tooheys> me too :P
[02:50] <gorilla> Tooheys: a terrible aussie beer.
[02:50] <whyameye> skjsl, it's a codec you need. It's been awhile. If I remember right, install totem-xine and w32codecs.
[02:51] <Tooheys> Extra Dry is awesome!
[02:51] <XHK> Why i cant open mp3's?
[02:51] <glick> can i in anyway run a mac os X program in linux?
[02:51] <Jowi> ubotu, tell XHK about mp3
[02:52] !lilo:*! Hi all. If you're in Houston, Texas and you have an unused Vonage telephone adapter you'd like to donate to PDPC, please message me. Thanks!
[02:52] <Jowi> XHK, extra software need to be installed. follow ubotus lead :)
[02:52] <mjr> glick, on linux/ppc, you can run mac os x under mac-on-linux. On other architectures, you may be able to use pearpc or qemu (though slowly)
[02:52] <glick> hmm pearpc?
[02:52] <Tooheys> hey got a question, is there any .net stuff avail in linux, linux compilers, emulators or even a port of the virtual machine thinggy ?
[02:53] <arkanes> Tooheys: google for mono
[02:53] <Nermal> go-mono.com
[02:53] <Nermal> full .net implementation
[02:53] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: I suppose Mono is partial implementation of .NET on linux
[02:53] <Nermal> pretty much
[02:53] <onkarshinde> !mono
[02:53] <ubotu> onkarshinde: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:53] <Tooheys> interesting!
[02:53] <glick> yeah but i have to run the entire macOS X OS for that
[02:54] <intelikey> !stats
[02:54] <Nameless12>  can someone tell me how to make all files in a dir automaticly be ch777 (i am sick of chmoding files in my webroot directory after i create them)
[02:54] <Nermal> umask it
[02:55] <Nermal> umask 000 it
[02:55] <Tooheys> haha this is ironic!! "is positioned to become the leading choice for development of Linux applications"... lmafo a MS technology becomes the leading linux tech
[02:55] <onkarshinde> ubotu: mono is implementation of .NET framework on linux. It supports winforms partially. For details www.go-mono.com
[02:55] <ubotu> onkarshinde: okay
[02:56] <Tooheys> ohh so I guess web application and services etc are out of the question :(
[02:56] <BiSK-8> hello
[02:56] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: It is not about MS technology. It makes you easy to write program in your choice of language and then run it on any platform where Mono is available.
[02:56] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: hi
[02:56] <BiSK-8> i get this error when using the ./configure option: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[02:56] <BiSK-8>  , what do i need 2 install?
[02:57] <Tooheys> onkarshinde ahhhh...
[02:57] <Nermal> BiSK-8: shockingly, the XML:: Parser perl module
[02:57] <Nermal> :)
[02:57] <atha> BiSK-8: libxml-parser-perl
[02:57] <joachim_> how do I find what process a window belongs to?
[02:57] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: What are you trying to install?
[02:57] <BiSK-8> atha, thx
[02:57] <intelikey> perl-xml something....
[02:58] <BiSK-8> onkarshide, the gnome-gluetooth system
[02:58] <atha> gnome-bluetooth can be installed fine with apt-get
[02:58] <BiSK-8> i know
[02:58] <BiSK-8> i tried
[02:58] <BiSK-8> but 1 sec
[02:58] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: Do you mean bluetooth? It can be installed with synaptic or apt-grt
[02:58] <BiSK-8> ill show u what happenes
[02:58] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: Please don't paste here
[02:58] <BiSK-8> bluetooth
[02:59] <BiSK-8> yes
[02:59] <BiSK-8> sry
[02:59] <BiSK-8> i wont
[02:59] <onkarshinde> Paste into pastebin
[02:59] <BiSK-8> its only wine
[02:59] <BiSK-8> line*
[03:00] <BiSK-8> oh
[03:00] <BiSK-8> it sais that its at its latest version
[03:00] <BiSK-8> but there are 315 updates
[03:00] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: So what is problem?
[03:01] <BiSK-8> how do i run it?
[03:01] <Nermal> apt-get upgrade ?
[03:01] <onkarshinde> It must be somewhere in Applications menu
[03:01] <Nermal> erm.. from the gnome menu ?
[03:01] <BiSK-8> its not there
[03:01] <BiSK-8> thats what's the prob
[03:01] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: Did you check all menus?
[03:01] <BiSK-8> yes
[03:02] <BiSK-8> 1sec
[03:02] <atha> so are you trying to send files or receive or what?
[03:02] <BiSK-8> ill try rebooting
[03:02] <Nermal> isn't gnome-bluetooth so you can go bluetooth:/// in nautilus ?
[03:02] <BiSK-8> both
[03:02] <BiSK-8> possibily send
[03:02] <Nermal> BiSK-8: don't bother
[03:02] <BiSK-8> dont bother?
[03:02] <Nermal> to reboot
[03:02] <BiSK-8> with what?
[03:02] <BiSK-8> oh
[03:02] <BiSK-8> there
[03:03] <BiSK-8> i tried it again
[03:03] <Nermal>  go bluetooth:/// in nautilus
[03:03] <atha> BiSK-8: gnome-obex-send filename
[03:03] <onkarshinde> Nermal: I had problems sometime with menu entries not getting updated after some install.
[03:03] <BiSK-8> and its in the menu
[03:03] <BiSK-8> so what should i do?
[03:03] <BiSK-8> upgrade?
[03:03] <onkarshinde> Nermal: I think he should at least logout and logout
[03:03] <onkarshinde> I mean login
[03:03] <BiSK-8> or apt-get update
[03:03] <Tooheys> how do linux programmers make a living, if everyone wants free software ?
[03:03] <BiSK-8> hahaha
[03:03] <BiSK-8> good question
[03:03] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: So did you find it in Menu?
[03:03] <apokryphos> Tooheys: normally it's a hobbie, but if you're real good you get money/sponsored
[03:04] <BiSK-8> yes
[03:04] <BiSK-8> i did
[03:04] <BiSK-8> but it wont open
[03:04] <XHK> Why i dont have sounds? :S
[03:04] <BiSK-8> i'll reboot
[03:04] <BiSK-8> or log out and in
[03:04] <BiSK-8> brb
[03:04] <Tooheys> apokryphos but get money for what?
[03:04] <atha> what doesn't open
[03:04] <atha> bluetooth file sharing is just a receiving server
[03:04] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: There must be two entries related to bluetooth. One is device manager
[03:04] <atha> from the menu
[03:04] <apokryphos> Tooheys: for being a dedicated dev; suffice it to say you have to be pretty dang good though
[03:04] <atha> and it shows in the tray area of upper panel
[03:05] <apokryphos> Tooheys: all big projects get sponsors; developers in gnome, ubuntu, kde, linux kernel etc
[03:05] <onkarshinde> XHK: Can you explain the problem with detail? Which sound card?
[03:06] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: Some companies their employees to work on open source projects, because they get benefit from those projects.
[03:06] <Tooheys> apokryphos: hmm this is the one thing that turns me off. I dont have a job, and atm I'm doing mobile phone games (making a little money) but would like to support myself doing applicaion development. Linux on the otherhand really doesnt allow for this?
[03:06] <XHK> onkarshinde: nvidia sound card, yesterday was everything ok
[03:06] <apokryphos> Tooheys: no; you can't really think of getting into Linux/development "for the money"
[03:06] <onkarshinde> XHK: Did you change any setting?
[03:07] <XHK> onkarshinde: No
[03:07] <apokryphos> Tooheys: unless you're very good ;-). Canonical, for example, sponsors many Ubuntu developers
[03:07] <XHK> onkarshinde: When i started computer, sound was muted, i unmuted it, but still no sound
[03:07] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: You can make custom applications in linux for small companies into your town.
[03:07] <henk> hmm why apokryphos  & Tooheys why do you tink it's impossible to make comercial applications that run on linux ?
[03:08] <apokryphos> henk: never said it was; it sure isn't (it's been done many-a-time).
[03:08] <onkarshinde> XHK: Are you logged in as a user who doesn't have access to sound card? Or have you checked that esd is started?
[03:09] <XHK> onkarshinde: I dont know,  I have only one user...
[03:09] <Tooheys> hmmm I just really cannot understand the motivation to dev for free, when you have a family to support etc.. and i tend to feel hobby programmers and their applications are a little short of being polished (thus soo many bugs)..
[03:09] <Jowi> XHK, did you disable the soundserver startup in gnome->system->prefs->sound ?
[03:09] <onkarshinde> XHK: can you tell me output of command 'ps-ef|grep esd' (without quotes?
[03:09] <apokryphos> Tooheys: they don't *all* do it for free, but most surely do. Suffice it to say your latter point doesn't really hold up; kde and gnome are, for the majority, volunteer efforts
[03:10] <henk> apokryphos,  it seemed like you meant that getting into development of applications on linux was not profitable. Not all applications build to run on a linux machine need to be free (or open source for that matter)
[03:10] <XHK> Jowi: it is enabled
[03:10] <apokryphos> henk: never said that, and of course you can -- yes
[03:10] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: When Richard Stallman left his job and started GNU project he taught programming in colleges for earning money to fund his effort got GNU
[03:10] <henk> hmm than i must have misread your remak to Tooheys
[03:11] <Tooheys> but there are just soo many little snags to watch out for. (i really dont know..) like the gun licences and stuff like that if you use anything attached to license in your own developments your screwed..
[03:11] <XHK> onkarshinde: umm it says command not found
[03:11] <Tooheys> *gnu
[03:11] <henk> Tooheys, as long as you don't copy code from some open source project but write it yourself you have nothing to do with a gnu open source licence
[03:11] <onkarshinde> XHK: Do as Jowi said.
[03:12] <XHK> onkarshinde: I did so, it was enabled
[03:12] <henk> just like in windows you can write your own closed software
[03:12] <Tooheys> ohhh, but what if I use glib for ex ?
[03:12] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: LGPL allows you to use some open source libraries and still keep your program closed.
[03:13] <Tooheys> ahh.
[03:13] <henk> as far as i know glib does not require you to open the programs you compile with it
[03:13] <Tooheys> but then again who is going to want to even pay $5 for something I develop if in a few weeks after I release it someone does it for free, based of my idea..
[03:13] <onkarshinde> XHK: Sorry the command was ps -ef|grep esd (note the space)
[03:13] <Hendric> i installed ubuntu... and created 1 fat32 partition and mounted it on /windows (during installation).. but while im on the ubuntu system.. logged in as a user.. i can't write to /windows.. and can't even change its permission
[03:13] <Hendric> how can i make it writable by all users
[03:14] <onkarshinde> Hendric: You need to provide an option umask=000 to mount command or include in /etc/fstab
[03:14] <rcaskey_> heya all, does anyone else not have a terminal option in breezy ;)
[03:14] <rcaskey_> I used the menu editor to reenable the root terminal but didn't see just plain terminal
[03:14] <henk> Tooheys, that is a problem that all software devloppers have not just the ones on linux. You have to find a way to make something that is usefull to others that makes them want to pay you for it
[03:14] <kemik> rcaskey_:  it's removed in gnome
[03:14] <Ninjew> onkarshinde: Or, you can add the option uid=user or gid=group (the preferable solution being make a group)
[03:15] <kemik> afaik
[03:15] <XHK> onkarshinde:hannes    8637     1  0 15:21 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[03:15] <XHK> hannes   10401  9246  0 16:14 pts/0    00:00:00 grep esd
[03:15] <rcaskey_> kemik: that's okay but err, I'd like to readd it ;)
[03:16] <Hendric> onkarshinde: so it should be like this on fstab: /dev/hda3 /windows vfat umask=000 0 0 <--???
[03:16] <onkarshinde> Ninjew: True. gid=100 maybe. But you will still need umask
[03:16] <Ninjew> onkarshinde: I can't remember what the default umask is for a mounted fat32 partition, doesn't it include group rw as well? Maybe i'm wrong
[03:16] <onkarshinde> Hendric: Right. Additionaly auto,umack=000,gid=100
[03:17] <Hendric> great!
[03:17] <rcaskey_> anyone here know how to force a radeon into dual screen instead of mirror mode?
[03:17] <onkarshinde> Ninjew: I suppose default is 022 and files owned by root
[03:18] <jjazz> rcaskey_:  Does your radeon do merged framebuffers?
[03:18] <Hendric> why does ubuntu doesn't do it when mounting fat32 partition during installation (DISK PARTITIONER)? it defaults to root
[03:18] <rcaskey_> jjazz: dunno
[03:18] <XHK> onkarshinde:hannes    8637     1  0 15:21 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[03:18] <onkarshinde> rcaskey_: Regarding your first question install package nautilus-terminal
[03:18] <jjazz> rcaskey_:  Well, go find out.
[03:18] <rcaskey_> jjazz: one sec
[03:18] <onkarshinde> XHK: What are you trying to play and using which application?
[03:19] <onkarshinde> Hendric: You can add uid=somenumber to fstab line so as files are owned by some user. By defaulr partitions are mounted at boot so owned by root
[03:19] <Hendric> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  <-- should this upgrade my Hoary to Breezy???
[03:20] <Hendric> or i better get the ISO and reinstall??
[03:20] <XHK> onkarshinde: There isn't no sounds at all. And if  i wanna play some music file it will give error or freeze.
[03:20] <rcaskey_> jjazz: don't see any mention of it in my xorg.conf its a 9600 (RV350)
[03:20] <Hendric> i got that one already onkarshinde.. thanks so much
[03:20] <vanguardist> hello
[03:20] <vanguardist> I'm trying to build plib
[03:20] <onkarshinde> Hendric: Provided you have replaced hoary with breezy in /etc/sources.list and done apt-get update first. Just check the channel topic
[03:20] <atha> Hendric: yes, it does, if you have changed the repositories point to breezy ones in sources.list
[03:20] <jjazz> rcaskey_:  The place to look for that info is in your radeon documentation.  If your card supports it, you add it to your xorg.conf.
[03:20] <vanguardist> and I get this error:
[03:20] <vanguardist> checking for glNewList in -lGL... no
[03:20] <vanguardist> checking for glNewList in -lMesaGL... no
[03:20] <vanguardist> configure: error: could not find working GL librar
[03:21] <onkarshinde> XHK: Ok. What type of music and using which application?
[03:21] <atha> and of course apt-get update like onkarshinde wrote
[03:21] <vanguardist> I've installed every dev package for gl/glut/mesa/X that I can think of and it's still not working
[03:21] <vanguardist> any clues as to which one I'm missing?
[03:21] <vanguardist> (low google juice on this one it seems)
[03:21] <onkarshinde> vanguardist: What are you trying to do?
[03:21] <nalioth> vanguardist: use synaptic and search "names and contents"
[03:22] <XHK> onkarshinde: first of all i want sounds back
[03:22] <Hendric> Anyone here got a hotfix for Gyach.. the pixbuffer error that closes the program unexpectedly....
[03:22] <XHK> onkarshinde: Ive tried mp3 with xmms, and with default players
[03:22] <rcaskey_> jjazz: I think those only work with the propriatary driver right?
[03:22] <Jowi> XHK, well, did you change gnome->system->prefs->multimediasomething->default output sink to ALSA or something?
[03:23] <onkarshinde> !ntfs
[03:23] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[03:23] <sara> join
[03:23] <rcaskey_> driver is v4l
[03:23] <XHK> Jowi its ESD
[03:23] <jjazz> rcaskey_:  No, I don't think so.  I installed no proprietary drivers on this box, and yet I've got merged FBs going.
[03:23] <onkarshinde> rcaskey_: which card?
[03:23] <XHK> Jowi: Do i have to change it?
[03:23] <onkarshinde> rcaskey_: Specific model number
[03:23] <Jowi> XHK, strange thing. the apps should not freeze. we can try one other thing
[03:24] <rcaskey_> onkarshinde: 9600 (RV350) on PPC
[03:24] <XHK> Jowi: only XMMS freezed
[03:24] <sara> hello
[03:24] <atha> XHK: have you tried to select different output plugin in xmms
[03:25] <Jowi> XHK, ah, only xmms..... what output have you chosen xmms to use? do you have esd plugin for it?
[03:25] <rcaskey_> despite not having mergedfb enable I do have mirror mode right now
[03:25] <XHK> Jowi: I dont know, anyway its not so important now, i want my sounds back.
[03:25] <rcaskey_> even though there is only a 1 screen server laytout
[03:25] <onkarshinde> rcaskey_: There you are. I suppose support for that card is not yet complete. Yet this thing may help you.
[03:25] <onkarshinde> !ati
[03:25] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:26] <XHK> Jowi: Like in gaim there isnt sounds and thats not gaims fault.
[03:26] <basti> could anyone tell me how I got rar support in breezy? I cant seem to locate a rar package with apt
[03:26] <kemik> basti:  maybe unrar-nonfree ?
[03:26] <rcaskey_> onkarshinde: I'm on a mac, I don't think they will have hte propriatary driver ;)
[03:26] <XHK> Jowi: about the xmms, whats hould i do to close it? :P Its freezed right now
[03:26] <basti> kemik, gonna try
[03:26] <Jowi> XHK, no it is not gaims fault. some apps i really need did not play nice with esd so i turned it off for good and have not had a problem since. maybe you should try the same setup as i have
[03:27] <rcaskey_> onkarshinde: why am I seeing anything on the second head at all?
[03:27] <Jowi> XHK, if you want to try it
[03:27] <onkarshinde> rcaskey_: I suppose they have. It is the OS you are using that matters.
[03:27] <ernstp> Anyone has a SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ?
[03:28] <glick> he does anyone recognize this error when trying to run an applications...
[03:28] <glick> Qt: Locales not supported on X server
[03:28] <glick> cannot handle file 'libc.so.6' with TLS data
[03:28] <Jowi> XHK, it will mean however, that you will not have sound when closing apps and minimising windows and such. but at least you will have sound in applications!
[03:28] <Hendric> Does breezy got support for EPSON CX all in one printer/scanner?? they have with HP...
[03:29] <Orbman> Now that breezy is close to release, should i grab hoary or breezy for a new install ?
[03:29] <inc|freaky> does any1 know how i can edit the kmenu? because the link to kcontrol suddenly disapeared and i want to readd it
[03:29] <vanguardist> I'm trying to build plib
[03:29] <vanguardist> and I get this error:
[03:29] <vanguardist> configure: error: could not find working GL librar
[03:29] <vanguardist> I've installed every dev package for gl/glut/mesa/X that I can think of and it's still not working
[03:29] <onkarshinde> glick: Which application?
[03:29] <basti> kemik, there was unrar-free and it installed but I still cant extract
[03:29] <glick> onkarshinde, interactive C 4 for linux
[03:30] <inc|freaky> is the installation of the nvidia driver the same as under debian?
[03:30] <onkarshinde> glick: Is it QT based application?
[03:30] <glick> onkarshinde, i thinks o
[03:30] <glick> i installed kde
[03:30] <glick> still get the same error
[03:30] <Orbman> which should i use for a new install ? breezy or hoary? this is for a normal desktop system...
[03:31] <Nermal> ermm...
[03:31] <onkarshinde> glick: There was no need to install KDE. Install you should install a package something like libqtmt302c**
[03:31] <atha> Orbman: based on my experience, I'd say breezy
[03:31] <Jowi> Orbman, hoary is a sure shot.
[03:31] <onkarshinde> glick: I installed it when I tried to install skype.
[03:32] <onkarshinde> glick: Because skype is QT based.
[03:32] <Jowi> Orbman, considering hoary has had 6 months of maturing
[03:32] <Orbman> Jowi: i can just upgrade when breezy comes out yea ?
[03:32] <apokryphos> yes
[03:32] <onkarshinde> Orbman: Sure you can.
[03:32] <jklsjsdls> sudo apt-get install azureus
[03:32] <Jowi> Orbman, yes you can upgrade. there are alot of ppl here that is using breezy fine as well
[03:32] <jklsjsdls> no go
[03:32] <onkarshinde> Orbman: Read the channel topic
[03:32] <jklsjsdls> :(
[03:33] <Orbman> onkarshinde: yea i was just reading it..
[03:33] <Orbman> hoary it is :) till breezy is out :D
[03:33] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: have you enabled all repositories?
[03:33] <glick> onkarshinde, i have libqt3c102-mt installed
[03:33] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: yup
[03:34] <basti> could anyone tell me how I can unrar in breezy? kinda sux to have to unrar on another pc...
[03:34] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: do you get it in your repos?
[03:34] <Orbman> actually when is breezy meant to be released ?
[03:34] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: sudo apt-cache search azureus
[03:34] <Jowi> basti, unrar x package.rar
[03:34] <havoc> Orbman: oct 13th or so
[03:34] <kemik> basti:  that's because you need the "non-free" version.. and it could be in multiverse/universe
[03:34] <onkarshinde> !azureus
[03:34] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[03:35] <Jowi> !info unrar
[03:35] <Orbman> ty :)
[03:35] <ubotu> unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[03:35] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Read what ubotu said
[03:35] <jklsjsdls> ubotu: I got my repo list from paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d38
[03:35] <ubotu> jklsjsdls: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:36] <Jowi> jklsjsdls, ubotu is not a person
[03:36] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: You need to add extra repository
[03:36] <onkarshinde> !extra
[03:36] <ubotu> onkarshinde: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:36] <kemik> hehe
[03:36] <jklsjsdls> oh bot
[03:36] <jklsjsdls> dooh
[03:36] <jklsjsdls> hehe
[03:36] <Jowi> :)
[03:36] <onkarshinde> !w32codecs
[03:36] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[03:37] <onkarshinde> !hoary-extra
[03:37] <ubotu> onkarshinde: What?
[03:37] <basti> kemik, ah yes thx was in multiverse
[03:37] <onkarshinde> does anyone know path of hoary-extra?
[03:37] <onkarshinde> I think jklsjsdls needs it
[03:37] <scanwinder> you know how there are diff x86 things like 486, 586, 686, what is a pentium one?
[03:37] <Jowi> !dependencies
[03:37] <ubotu> Not a clue, Jowi
[03:37] <kemik> scanwinder:  depends on which pentium...
[03:37] <Jowi> !repositories
[03:37] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[03:38] <kemik> scanwinder:  586 or 686
[03:38] <scanwinder> kemik: pentium mmx
[03:38] <kemik> scanwinder:  586 the
[03:38] <kemik> then
[03:38] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: azureus is in extra repos and you will need to find ita path. May be this will help you.
[03:38] <scanwinder> kemik: ok, thanks
[03:38] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: whats the line(s) i need to add to souces.list
[03:38] <ak37> Hoary Extras? -> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras
[03:38] <Jowi> ak37, it was down yesterday. is it back online?
[03:39] <ak37> Jowi, oh I don't know about it
[03:39] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Did you get answer from ak37?
[03:39] <jklsjsdls> yes thanks
[03:39] <jklsjsdls> should i ad a secrity repo to that though?
[03:39] <ak37> Jowi: I can see it through Firefox, it should be online
[03:39] <onkarshinde> Jowi: It is online today
[03:40] <shinu> ubuntu supports usb2 doesnt it?
[03:40] <AcidPils> hi
[03:40] <AcidPils> has anyone else problems playing .ogg files with mplayer?
[03:40] <infornography> can anybody tell me how to suid a program?
[03:40] <onkarshinde> shinu: Yes it does
[03:40] <Jowi> ak37, yeah, but it does not have any files in it. i changed mine to deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted + deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:40] <Jowi> onkarshinde, ah great
[03:40] <shinu> onkarshinde: support is stable isnt it? i read somewhere that its not, but maybe im mistaking with some other distro or something...
[03:41] <Jowi> ak37, temporary offline then :)
[03:41] <nalioth> Jowi: search planet.ubuntulinux.org for the new backports repos (remember b/p are evil)
[03:41] <jklsjsdls> ak37: E: Malformed line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[03:41] <jklsjsdls> :(
[03:41] <onkarshinde> shinu: It is sure stable
[03:41] <shinu> onkarshinde: alright thanks :)
[03:41] <Jowi> cheers nalioth
[03:42] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: paste your source.list in pastebin
[03:42] <ak37> jklsjsdls: Whoa? I paste that line from my sources.list
[03:42] <onkarshinde> AcidPils: Never tried. Should play finde with Rhythmbox or Beep oir XMMS
[03:42] <jklsjsdls> ak37: I put it at the bottom is that ok
[03:43] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Should work
[03:43] <ak37> jklsjsdls: Yeah
[03:43] <AcidPils> onkarshinde: it works with xmms, but for listening to webstreams i prefer mplayer
[03:43] <onkarshinde> AcidPils: Doesn't rhythmbox support web streams?
[03:43] <jklsjsdls> I have my contry pre thing in front of the other ubuntu sources
[03:43] <jklsjsdls> (but not yours
[03:44] <onkarshinde> AcidPils: May be some configuration problem with mplayer
[03:44] <jklsjsdls> ak37: is that ok
[03:44] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Yes. Because extra repository is not mirrored. It is not official.
[03:44] <AcidPils> onkarshinde: dont know, never tried that program, i would like to have something for the commandline ;)
[03:45] <ak37> jklsjsdls: Yes
[03:45] <Tooheys> hehe someone tell me a dream linux application that they would pay money for (even $1)
[03:46] <AcidPils> Tooheys: something that makes it easy to config the ati driver ;)
[03:46] <infornography> How can I "suid" a file?
[03:46] <gxc> what means "suid"?
[03:46] <Jowi> infornography, chmod a+s filename is the common way
[03:47] <jklsjsdls> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2634
[03:47] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: Something that managers in company will never how to configure.
[03:47] <Jowi> ...or was it a+S
[03:47] <infornography> thanks
[03:47] <jklsjsdls> any help
[03:47] <Tooheys> AcidPils: I have a ati raedon 9800, haven't installed linux yet.. trying to get motivation to do so. I dont really need another os as windows is jsut fine for me (developer)..
[03:47] <Jowi> gxc, set user id
[03:47] <Goonie> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[03:47] <Goonie> PHYSDEVPATH=/devices/ide1/1.0
[03:48] <gxc> thanks jowi:)
[03:48] <Tooheys> I want to leave the evil empire that is M$, but dont want to throw away hard earned programming knowledge all for free.. know what i mean...
[03:48] <Tooheys> hehe
[03:48] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: In last line add dists after /
[03:49] <Jowi> gxc, np. useful for letting users mount samba shares etc (suid mount). it is considered to be a security risk though
[03:49] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists
[03:49] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2634
[03:49] <jklsjsdls> ok cool
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> Tooheys, i suggest you don't move if you don't need it
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> really
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> you will be disappointed
[03:50] <avalost> ahh I wish I had a Tooheys new..
[03:50] <avalost> I fell in love with that beer when was in australia
[03:50] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: Why don't you get some linux certification. That will get you a job and then you will be able to work for opensource.
[03:51] <will_> hey everyone
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> !ping
[03:51] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, wickedpuppy.
[03:51] <gxc> I'm a programmer too,I need linux,it's a good platform
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> am i lagging bad or what ??
[03:51] <Tooheys> problem is I live in a remote town (no programming roles etc) so what I do atm is for myself to make cash (mobile phone games atm)..
[03:51] <avalost> Tooheys, where in Oz are you?
[03:52] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: There are some places where you can work from home. For example Mozilla Foundation.
[03:52] <Tooheys> avalost hehe try Tooheys Extra Dry next time. I promise you will fall in love with it too.
[03:52] <onkarshinde> gxc: So what is problem?
[03:52] <avalost> Tooheys, if Iever make it back to Oz I will
[03:52] <Tooheys> avalost: in the camden haven area..
[03:52] <n00bster> hello, My mounting points disappears after i reboot..
[03:53] <Tooheys> avalost: halfway between coffs harbour and newcastle and in between no bloody where hehe
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> Tooheys, why not tell us what language you use or what ??
[03:53] <Deanie> got a question, i want smb as part of kernel, ive ran make menuconfig and added smb protocol as Module, an saved the .config,  but what do i do then ?
[03:53] <avalost> Tooheys, I don't know the area, but I spent two months going between sydney and bribane and a little furth north
[03:53] <gxc> hehe, no problem , just like linux,like programming for it
[03:53] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde:  still the same :(
[03:53] <jklsjsdls> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2635
[03:53] <Tooheys> atm J2ME for the mobile stuff, and C#.NET for pc applications
[03:54] <Deanie> never touched kernel stuff, well when i did once, i broke it :)
[03:54] <herrpoon> hello anyone thre?
[03:54] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Same error again?
[03:54] <onkarshinde> herrpoon: There are many
[03:54] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: im on ubuntu live at the mo if thats a prob
[03:54] <herrpoon> hey!
[03:54] <jklsjsdls> (i have an installed ubuntu with the same setup
[03:55] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde, yeah same
[03:55] <herrpoon> sorry just using irssi from work, wanted to make sure ut was working
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> Tooheys, as for java thats sun problem ... as for C# , there is mono but ... well i don't recommend it
[03:55] <Tooheys> shamefull plug: http://members.iinet.net.au/~pharg/
[03:55] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Hey the problem is not related to it. But I am not sure how you plan to install applications with Ubuntu live.
[03:56] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde,: I will on my installed version
[03:56] <elvirolo> hi all
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> jklsjsdls, if installed then use apt-get install <program> or use synaptic
[03:56] <herrpoon> hey
[03:56] <AcidPils> can anyone try  grep 0x73627276 /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf and tell me if there is a hit?
[03:56] <CruX_> hi all
[03:56] <knewt> anyone here use laptop-netconf?
[03:57] <Deanie> got a question, i want smb as part of kernel, ive ran make menuconfig and added smb protocol as Module, an saved the .config,  but what do i do then ?
[03:57] <elvirolo> has anyone managed to install balazar 0.2 (http://home.gna.org/oomadness/en/) ?
[03:57] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: can you state error again?
[03:57] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: if i borrows ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net can i get the deb there
[03:57] <herrpoon> what do u want to do?
[03:57] <CruX_> can't be resolution in xorg.conf be set via modeline ?
[03:57] <Jowi> AcidPils, nope
[03:58] <n00bster> mounting points disappear after reboot.. eny way to fix it ?
[03:58] <jklsjsdls> E: Malformed line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[03:58] <AcidPils> Jowi: can you play .ogg with mplayer?
[03:58] <ak37> n00bster: How do you mount it in the first place?
[03:58] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: I suppose you wanted azureus. Here is the link http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>-3~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[03:58] <Jowi> AcidPils, will check
[03:58] <AcidPils> thx
[03:58] <jklsjsdls> :D
[03:58] <n00bster> from bash
[03:59] <ak37> n00bster: You need to enter some lines to /etc/fstab to make it permanent
[03:59] <kemik> !tell n00bster about ntfs
[03:59] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: But then you will need to install dependencies also manually.
[03:59] <Jowi> AcidPils, will have to scp some ogg from the other pc
[03:59] <n00bster> after i mount, i can see the new points on fstab..
[03:59] <AcidPils> Jowi: i solved the problem ;)
[03:59] <kemik> n00bster:  "cat /etc/fstab"
[04:00] <AcidPils> rm /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf and it works
[04:00] <sambagirl> will backpack serial port external cd burner work with ubuntu?
[04:00] <kemik> sambagirl:  serialport? ouch.. must be slow
[04:00] <onkarshinde> n00bster: Use following for auto mounting fat or ntfa partitions. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:00] <sambagirl> umm as long as it saving data is not to slow for me :)
[04:01] <n00bster>  I use - sudi mount -t /etc/hda1 /media/hda1
[04:01] <gxc> SATA cd burner??
[04:01] <n00bster> ok.
[04:01] <Jowi> AcidPils, good. just found out it worked :)
[04:01] <onkarshinde> n00bster: Read my above reply
[04:01] <Jowi> AcidPils, what was your prob?
[04:02] <AcidPils> i could not play any .ogg
[04:02] <elvirolo> has anyone managed to compile/install soya 0.10 then ?
[04:02] <sambagirl> let me check their web url
[04:02] <sambagirl> brb
[04:02] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: You will have to
[04:02] <Jowi> AcidPils, heh, yeah. but did you get an error?
[04:02] <AcidPils> http://rafb.net/paste/results/NXOTNM91.html <- that
[04:02] <n00bster> I have, ty, i'm traying it now.
[04:02] <pinoyskull> does anybody knows how to disable buffering when playing videos over LAN?
[04:03] <onkarshinde> n00bster: You will have to run it as this 'sudo bash winmac_fstab"
[04:03] <Jowi> AcidPils, alright. and you solved it with -ao i guess
[04:03] <gxc> pinoyskull: over samba?
[04:03] <AcidPils> Jowi: no, with rm /etc/mplayer/codes.conf
[04:03] <n00bster> what's 'winmac_fstab' ?
[04:03] <AcidPils> -ao didnt work
[04:03] <Jowi> AcidPils, oh ok.
[04:03] <pinoyskull> gxc: ya, over samba
[04:03] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: You can use http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports as extra repos instead. It works properly.
[04:04] <gxc> pinoyskull: :( I have the same problem
[04:04] <onkarshinde> n00bster: It is a script that will add entries to your fstab by detecting vfat and ntfs partitions. Save that file yo your disc.
[04:04] <pinoyskull> gxc: u fixed it?
[04:04] <Crackstar> after installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/
[04:05] <pinoyskull> Crackstar: just wait for a few seconds, it will continue
[04:05] <n00bster> ok, thank you.
[04:06] <InitMass> any new releases of breezy stuff lately??
[04:06] <gxc> pinoyskull: I use totem-xine, it always stop working for me
[04:06] <Crackstar> pinoyskull no it dont continue and when i start recovery i get the error hw_random: RNG not detected ; hw_random cant be loaded missing kernel or user mode driver hw_random
[04:07] <pinoyskull> gxc: totem or xine, it always buffers before it plays the video, i hate it, in slackware it doesnt do that
[04:07] <sorush20> guys since I upgraded to breezy I've lost my printer..
[04:07] <bretzel> How is Breezy now ? safe to upgrade ?
[04:08] <onkarshinde> bretzel: Not yet.
[04:08] <kemik> bretzel:  13 oct
[04:08] <pinoyskull> bretzel: wait for the final release
[04:08] <ak37> bretzel: I'm on Breezy, but my upgrade wasn't smooth
[04:08] <gxc> me too!does anyone knows how to fix it?
[04:08] <bretzel> 15 days before the Breezy day :-)
[04:08] <Crackstar> hm :(
[04:08] <bretzel> I will wait then thanks
[04:08] <pinoyskull> i have a fresh install of breezy badger on my test pc, it was ok
[04:09] <AcidPils> my update months ago worked fine... but then... omfg ;)
[04:09] <ak37> Fresh install is cool
[04:09] <pinoyskull> but ill wait for final before i make it my default workstation
[04:09] <sorush20> how do I restart cups
[04:09] <bretzel> I use my linux box mainly for C++ labs ( free time coding )
[04:09] <kemik> sorush20:  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd restart
[04:09] <bretzel> I wonder if Breezy is well set for that
[04:09] <pinoyskull> sorush20: /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[04:10] <kemik> bretzel:  why would it not be ?
[04:10] <bretzel> kemik: missing configs, data; paths, etc ...
[04:10] <n00bster> winmac_fstab returns error: error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_1
[04:10] <jeldert> OOo 2 RC1 is released today, any change to include it in breezy? Or even better, if the final is out in time t oinclude final instead of beta 2?
[04:10] <kemik> bretzel:  lost me there...
[04:10] <Crackstar> does somebody can help me ?
[04:10] <gxc> bretzel:sure,it's well  set for that
[04:11] <kemik> configs for what? paths to where?
[04:11] <sorush20> when I try to restart the hotplug system it crashes the computer can can someone help please.
[04:11] <onkarshinde> jeldert: OOo final should be out before Breezy final
[04:11] <kemik> bretzel:  just install "build-essential" and you'll get the compilers.. (if not, jsut apt-get g++)
[04:11] <pinoyskull> onkarshinde: i hope so, if not, ill stick to abiword and gnumeric for a while
[04:12] <kemik> and most libs are also apt-gettable
[04:12] <jeldert> onkarshinde, would be nice :D
[04:12] <pinoyskull> sick: go to sleep and rest, :D
[04:12] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: um could i still have some help
[04:12] <jklsjsdls> sorry
[04:12] <bretzel> Thus I can fire up the upgrade :-)  -- I am in a fresh vanilla Hoary re-install. Lets hope all will be good after that -- but the beauty of Ubuntu is its fast install and configs so I am not scared to restart
[04:12] <jklsjsdls> i need libswt-gtk-3.1-java
[04:13] <onkarshinde> I was just wondering if they include FF 1.5 beta in breezy so that I may upgrade to 1.5 once it is out.
[04:13] <sorush20> j
[04:13] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Did you try second repository i said. I said it just works.
[04:13] <sorush20> I can't restart the hotplug system..
[04:13] <nalioth> jklsjsdls: use azureus from sourceforge
[04:13] <sorush20> it just crashes.. I don't know why
[04:13] <ak37> onkarshinde: I heard FF 1.5 won't make it to breezy
[04:13] <Jowi> sorush20, could be that pcmcia or acpi is disturbing it. if you suspect a specific one you can disable them here: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:14] <jeldert> question: why am I having a hard time loging in with GAIM (to msn) all the time?
[04:14] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: no could you paste the repositoray again?
[04:14] <jeldert> aMSN doesn't connect either
[04:16] <Jowi> sorush20, but if it is only when you restart it, and not during boot, maybe you can try to temporarily disable the network "sudo /etc/init.d/network stop"
[04:16] <jklsjsdls> http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports
[04:16] <jklsjsdls> ha
[04:16] <Tooheys> hehe sorry for the questions but anyways: can i install redhat rpms with ubuntu ?
[04:16] <jklsjsdls> ha
[04:16] <jklsjsdls> ah
[04:16] <plod> alien?
[04:16] <bretzel> ... Upgrading :-)
[04:16] <ak37> Tooheys: use alien to convert rpm to deb
[04:17] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports
[04:17] <onkarshinde> jeldert: Which gaim version?
[04:17] <Crackstar> after installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/
[04:18] <Tooheys> ak37: ahh ok because I dont know which version of mono to download, its either suse or radhat..
[04:18] <gxc> Tooheys:  use dpkg -i file.deb to install it
[04:18] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: do i add /dists hoary-extras
[04:18] <jklsjsdls>  to the end?
[04:18] <ak37> Tooheys: Mono, I tought Mono is there for Ubuntu
[04:18] <vinboy_> 123
[04:18] <ak37> Tooheys: At least in Breezy, Hoary should have Mono in the backport repos
[04:19] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Yes.
[04:19] <Tooheys> ohh how do I know ?
[04:19] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: Ever heard of synaptic?
[04:19] <ak37> Tooheys: Check synaptics?
[04:19] <jklsjsdls> do i need to say dists cause my other ones just have hoary-extras
[04:19] <Tooheys> no sorry havent heard of it..
[04:19] <jklsjsdls> i mean that part
[04:20] <onkarshinde> Can anyone tell me exact purpose of gnome-meeting? Is it VoIP?
[04:20] <Jowi> !info mono
[04:20] <ubotu> mono: (The Mono .NET development environment), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[04:20] <Concord_Dawn> I have a question. I follow the Firestarter Howto located on the forums, but I still recieve the "Insufficient root privileges" error.
[04:20] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Complete line 'deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/dists hoary-extras'
[04:20] <Tooheys> hehe can you tell me what synaptic is?
[04:20] <Deanie> its the ms equiv of netmeeting.
[04:20] <Jowi> onkarshinde, video over ip with voice.
[04:21] <ak37> Tooheys: It's under System > Administration > Synaptics
[04:21] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: System->Administration->Synaptic
[04:21] <Deanie> got a question, i want smb as part of kernel, ive ran make menuconfig and added smb protocol as Module, an saved the .config,  but what do i do then ?
[04:21] <Jowi> onkarshinde, think it uses SIP for voip but i'm not sure
[04:21] <onkarshinde> Jowi: No. It doesn't use SIP. It uses H.323
[04:22] <Jowi> onkarshinde, aha.
[04:24] <Tooheys> ohh I'm done.. thanks for all the help everyone.. I'm sure when I wake up in the morning i will be back in here to bug ya's :)
[04:25] <onkarshinde> where can i get list of linux compatible tv capture cards?
[04:25] <chorton> How do I add a path that #include's look to?
[04:25] <DeVeRaS> yellow there
[04:25] <dmacdonald111> Hi all. So I have got ubuntu up and running and I am happy :) But it is saying that there are updates to download. Is this safe to allow my computer to do this? Or should I be going through them 1 by 1 (there are 371). Thanks
[04:25] <Jowi> onkarshinde, best bet is to have a look at mythtv's homepage
[04:26] <DeVeRaS> i did apt-get install phpbb2 but it didn't go to /var/www/ but to /usr/share ... so it's outside the webserver. How can i install it to the correct path or where do i change the webserver to make that folder also browseble?
[04:26] <kent> dmacdonald111, is it the stable ubuntu or the unstable Breezy? Either way, you want to upgrade. But if it is Breezy, you should have installed the stable version instead..
[04:26] <fugit> I'm trying to get an ubuntu client to register with an w2k3 AD server for dynamic dns, thus far with no luck
[04:26] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: it's still doing it! ahh
[04:26] <fugit> I have tried the interface file perm hostname "machine.domain.com"
[04:27] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: What is it doing?
[04:27] <dmacdonald111> kent: uhm, pass. How can I find out which version it is?
[04:27] <fugit> and I Have tried setting send host-name "machine.domain.com" as well as the fqdn send option
[04:27] <jklsjsdls> E: Malformed line 10 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[04:27] <nictuku> hi. I'm trying to install zope-ldapuserfolder but it depends on python2.2-ldap. I can't find that even on universe. pacakges.ubuntu.com shows it only in warty. What should I do?
[04:27] <fugit> Anyone have success with Dynamic DNS and an ubuntu client
[04:27] <Crackstar> after installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/
[04:27] <Rotund> what is the correct process for requesting a package gets bumped to a newer version?
[04:28] <Rotund> Is it a bug report?
[04:28] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Pastebin please
[04:28] <jklsjsdls> ok
[04:28] <Jowi> fugit, maybe you should add the win machine in /etc/hosts.allow
[04:28] <sproingie> Rotund: did the maintainer forget to bump the version on a new version of a package?
[04:28] <DeVeRaS> i did apt-get install phpbb2 but it didn't go to /var/www/ but to /usr/share ... so it's outside the webserver. How can i install it to the correct path or where do i change the webserver to make that folder also browseble?
[04:29] <fugit> Jowi: I'll try anthing at this point :-) Trying that right now
[04:29] <Jowi> fugit, like for ssh: sshd:ALL
[04:29] <jklsjsdls> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2636
[04:29] <kent> dmacdonald111, I think it will tell if you open up the webbrowser (firefox) and look at the "startpage". It should tell..
[04:29] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2636
[04:29] <Rotund> sproingie: No, I want to request libtheora gets updated to version 1.0-alpha5 (we're at alpha4 and there are bug fixes)
[04:30] <DeVeRaS> ubuntu have a diferente file for the httpd.conf file of apache
[04:30] <DeVeRaS> where is the apache2 confgiuration file?
[04:30] <DeVeRaS> what is it?
[04:30] <dmacdonald111> kent: er, it's 5.10 breezy badger
[04:30] <buzzco> DeVeRaS:  /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[04:31] <Jowi> DeVeRaS, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf + httpd.conf
[04:31] <Rotund> sproingie: (I;m talking breezy too... obviously they won't update hoary)
[04:31] <vinboy_> does anyone know if there is any CVS server gui?
[04:31] <kent> dmacdonald111, Then it is the unstable on. You can try to upgrade the packages. If it does not break the system everything is ok. Its pretty stable now, since it is soon to be released..  So, go ahead and upgrade. Thats my advice..
[04:31] <vinboy_> it is kinda hard to setup
[04:31] <alexcamilo> hello, how do i use apt-get to install http servers, ftp servers, and ssh?
[04:32] <cristian> hola
[04:32] <cristian> alguien de argentina?
[04:32] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-es
[04:32] <ompaul> !es
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> alexandros, use synaptic
[04:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:32] <Hendric> upgrading the distro needs to download 522MB of files.. i better get the ISO
[04:32] <Jowi> alexcamilo, sudo apt-get install ssh proftpd apache2
[04:32] <alexcamilo> i dont have it. base system installed
[04:32] <dmacdonald111> kent: Thank you :) I have used unstable versions of other distro's before, so if anything goes wrong, I feel pretty confident to fix it again.
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> only base ? no gui ?
[04:32] <cristian> somebody who speak spanish???
[04:32] <sproingie> Rotund: yah a RFE bug report might do it.  i dont know what the etiquette is on asking the maintainer directly, but a bug will hopefully keep everyone from making the same request
[04:32] <Leonik> does wine work better in breezy?
[04:33] <alexcamilo> nope.
[04:33] <alexcamilo> no gui
[04:33] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Oops. Biggest mistake I could do ever. 'deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/dists hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse'
[04:33] <dpro\> !es
[04:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:33] <ompaul> !tell cristian about es
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> i am sorry but if you do a base system ... i am thinking you should know what you are doing ?
[04:33] <kent> dmacdonald111, then you should be ok. I run breezy my self, and have not had any problems for a long time. :)
[04:33] <Myrtti> [17:32]  < Jowi> alexcamilo, sudo apt-get install ssh proftpd apache2
[04:33] <ompaul> cristian, a pm from ubotu
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> apt-get install <proggram> is the command btw
[04:33] <jklsjsdls> lol
[04:33] <dmacdonald111> kent: cool. Thank you. I'm just happy to find a distro that actually utilizes the full potential of my graphics card :)
[04:33] <n00bster> i just wanted to thank you, the disappearing partitions after reboot problems is solved, and it also
[04:33] <n00bster> fixed partition permissions problems. TY!
[04:34] <alexcamilo> oops. was trying sshd
[04:34] <alexcamilo> XD
[04:34] <Jowi> alexcamilo, ssh installs openssh-server and openssh-client
[04:34] <XHK> tere kinomees
[04:34] <Leonik> why is the breezy install cd only 1 cd, whereas hoary was an entire dvd?
[04:34] <Kinomees> ?
[04:34] <Kinomees> tere jah
[04:34] <DeVeRaS> how do i restart apache2?
[04:35] <kent> dmacdonald111, what kind of card is it? I have an old TNT2. It works fine for me, but I dont do much more than browsing internet and irc..
[04:35] <Jowi> DeVeRaS, sudo /etc/init.d/httpd restart
[04:35] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: all good no lol
[04:35] <onkarshinde> Leonik: Hoary was also one CD. Only that DVD contains all the packahes in repos.
[04:35] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: thank you very much
[04:35] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: So is it working now?
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> i thought apache2 instead of httpd
[04:35] <jklsjsdls> :)
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> ?
[04:35] <DeVeRaS> sudo /etc/init.d/httpd restart
[04:35] <DeVeRaS> sudo: /etc/init.d/httpd: command not found
[04:35] <Leonik> So it still comes with everything, like OOo and gimp?
[04:35] <Jowi> wickedpuppy, you are right!
[04:36] <dmacdonald111> kent: I have a radion 9200. It worked on other distro's, but I wasn't able to change the resolution. Now I have a choice of all of them.
[04:36] <Jowi> DeVeRaS, listen to wickedpuppy. i am a liar
[04:36] <ompaul> Leonik, when breezy becomes a release expect to see a DVD
[04:36] <Jowi> DeVeRaS, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:36] <Leonik> should i still download it? or should i just use my old hoary dvd?
[04:36] <Leonik> i switched back to windows because wine wasnt working
[04:37] <kent> dmacdonald111, ok. thats nice :)
[04:37] <ompaul> Leonik, for what?
[04:37] <Leonik> to reinstall ubuntu
[04:37] <dmacdonald111> kent: yes. I'm happy :)
[04:37] <Myrtti> Leonik: what were you trying to run in wine?
[04:38] <Leonik> well i would install it with synaptic and it wouldnt create the config files i needed nad it was just a huge mess
[04:38] <Leonik> it wouldnt run steam or wow
[04:38] <abiertos> hello I need help
[04:38] <Leonik> which is what i really needed
[04:38] <abiertos> someone know something about yaboot
[04:38] <abiertos> uh?
[04:39] <nalioth> abiertos: whats up?
[04:39] <abiertos> nalioth: I have a problem
[04:40] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2637      oh some off them stuffed
[04:40] <jklsjsdls> that won't affect me will it
[04:40] <jklsjsdls> ?
[04:40] <ompaul> Leonik, I suggest starting from a Colony 5 CD wine works, it can take a bit of effort to get it to work the way you want it to, howver for games there is something called cageda if I spelt it correctly, it would be more suitable, I can say however I do not use wine or this cageda so I am no expert in this :) however there are lots of Linux games out there, and although you think you want wow or something else you can always check out
[04:40] <ompaul> The Linux Game Tome
[04:40] <RockyBurt> are there any gnome power management utils for configuring acpi with breezy badger?
[04:40] <abiertos> nalioth: my keyboard isnt work
[04:41] <Leonik> too bad i have to pay for cedega
[04:41] <nalioth> abiertos: how does that affect yaboot?
[04:41] <samuel> hi =)
[04:41] <abiertos> nalioth: so I cant to change my root password
[04:41] <Leonik> would breezy be a better choice for gaming than hoary?
[04:41] <nalioth> !tell abiertos about root
[04:41] <kemik> Leonik:  probably since the 3d drivers are updated
[04:41] <samuel> does anyone know how to truncate file names in nautilus?
[04:41] <nalioth> abiertos: ubotu has sent you a msg
[04:42] <kemik> Leonik:  but i'd wait 14 days for breezy to be stable
[04:42] <bienve> abiertos :o
[04:42] <bienve> un dominicano.
[04:42] <ompaul> Leonik, no idea, but if I was to do it today and that was my aim, I would use breezy, download the one CD, and enjoy building a new system
[04:42] <Leonik> if i install breezy right now can i upgrade to the stable without losing everything?
[04:42] <nalioth> Leonik: yes you can
[04:43] <Leonik> just through that gnome update icon right?
[04:43] <Leonik> like how i upgrade everything else?
[04:43] <sambagirl> when i try to access the ubuntu machine via a windows machine it requests a pw but i never assigned one is there a defualt?
[04:44] <ompaul> Leonik, yes, out of curiosity how much hard drive have you got for this?
[04:44] <jklsjsdls> hmm i need libswt-gtk-3.1-java
[04:44] <nalioth> sambagirl: use your user name and pass
[04:44] <sambagirl> how do you change the workgroup on the ubuntu machine to match the otherrs?
[04:44] <sambagirl> ahh
[04:44] <nalioth> jklsjsdls: what program are you wanting to use?
[04:44] <Leonik> 140 so i could run a dual boot environment
[04:44] <Jowi> sambagirl, workgroup is listed in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:45] <sambagirl> ahh now it says no access to the thingy and it just did before strange.
[04:46] <sambagirl> brb need to fix this.
[04:46] <Jowi> sambagirl, ....if you're running the samba server that is...
[04:46] <sambagirl> hah i was running nfs i think i checking now
[04:46] <sno_> he guys
[04:46] <sno_> miramax backports are down
[04:46] <sno_> can i set up others?
[04:47] <sno_> atm i commented out the miramax backports in the sources.list
[04:47] <sno_> but now i cannot install anything :>
[04:47] <samuel> can anyone please tell me if its possible to truncate the file and folder names in nautilus? when reading my ntfs partition some hidden files have huge names
[04:47] <sambagirl> how do i list active programs so i can turn something off to free up memory? it is not opening things right
[04:47] <Jowi> sno: i use these: deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted + deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:48] <sno_> thanx Jowi
[04:48] <sno_> :)
[04:48] <Jowi> sambagirl, ps -A will give you all active progs
[04:48] <abiertos> someone help me
[04:49] <abiertos> I want to know if there is a person here that knows something about yaboot
[04:49] <abiertos> its important
[04:49] <ompaul> abiertos, please help others to help you by asking a specific question about whatever you have a problem with
[04:49] <Leonik> if i run a dual boot environemnt can i format the rest of the windows drive once i completely get my linux system up and running?
[04:49] <Jowi> sambagirl, "top" will give you programs listed by the CPU they consume. (quit with q)
[04:50] <ompaul> Leonik, yes
[04:50] <jklsjsdls> nalioth: azurous and i found this file next to it in the repo http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/libswt-gtk-3.1-java_3.0+3.1M4-3~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[04:50] <Leonik> even if its the same hard drive?
[04:50] <abiertos> ompaul: The problem is that when I started with init=/bin/sh my keyboard isnt work
[04:50] <jklsjsdls> I think that what i need
[04:51] <abiertos> ompaul: I want to know if there is a parameter that I could use for make my keyboard works with init=/bin/sh process
[04:51] <ccooke> sambagirl: how much memory do you have?
[04:51] <samuel> leonik do u mean delete the windows partition once your all set up with linux?
[04:51] <ompaul> abiertos, where are you starting with this? grub?
[04:51] <KasperTech> Hi. How does Ubuntu feel about an ATI Radeon Mobility X600-graphic card? I'm buying a laptop you see. And I've got the choice between the expensive (NVidia GeForce 6600) and the less expensive (The Radeon Card) ???
[04:52] <Leonik> yea
[04:52] <ccooke> KasperTech: using one now.
[04:52] <abiertos> ompaul: yaboot
[04:52] <Leonik> and add that space back to the linux one
[04:52] <KasperTech> How do you like it ccooke :)?
[04:52] <ccooke> KasperTech: on the laptop at 1920x1200 and a second monitor at 1280x1024.
[04:52] <ayeizajedi> anyone got any feeback on the 'perfect setup' ( http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04 ) and wether or not it would work for the latest version ?
[04:52] <Chousuke> KasperTech: nvidias are preferable.
[04:52] <samuel> leonik yeah you can do that and make a new partition, or resize the linux partition
[04:52] <ccooke> Chousuke: not in breezy.
[04:52] <abiertos> ompaul: yaboot is the boot loader for powerpc's
[04:52] <KasperTech> ccooke: Okay, how about games?
[04:53] <Chousuke> ccooke: why not?
[04:53] <Leonik> is it simple or rather complex?
[04:53] <samuel> simple
[04:53] <KasperTech> Chousuke: I know, but it's like 200$ expensiver.
[04:53] <Chousuke> KasperTech: and it'll suck :P
[04:53] <ccooke> KasperTech: Hoary is fine, but if you want to get an externl monitor working too, use breezy.
[04:53] <Chousuke> at least with the binary drivers.
[04:53] <ompaul> abiertos, so being an X86 sort of person I know nothing :)
[04:54] <KasperTech> ccooke: Where's that avaible for download?
[04:54] <ccooke> KasperTech/Chousuke: The latest ATI binary drivers (8.16.20) are a huge improvement on the previous ones
[04:54] <KasperTech> Okay, how do I install that?
[04:54] <Chousuke> ccooke: Are they yet on par with nvidia?
[04:54] <ccooke> KasperTech: the preview release is in the topic at http://tinyurl.com/85dry
[04:54] <KasperTech> ccooke: (So I'm already for the day it arives) :)
[04:54] <Crackstar> after installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/
[04:54] <ccooke> KasperTech: the full release will be early October.
[04:54] <catfox> can i use a second monitor on my laptop with an ati card? as a dual screen, not as a copied screen
[04:54] <abiertos> ompaul: I just need a way to make my keyboard works with this parameter
[04:54] <ccooke> Chousuke: close enough for it to make no difference.
[04:55] <ccooke> Chousuke: in breezy, full acceleration was adding one line to xorg.conf and changing to the fglrx drivers.
[04:55] <ompaul> abiertos, I don't know look here: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-September.txt.gz
[04:55] <ccooke> Chousuke: and multiple monitors took me two minutes to get working.
[04:55] <Chousuke> ccooke: are they stable and fast?
[04:55] <ccooke> Chousuke: yep.
[04:56] <catfox> ccooke, what are the changes? i'd like to get it working
[04:56] <ccooke> KasperTech: for games, I have NWN and Darwinia installed. Both perform better than the windows versions
[04:56] <KasperTech> Okay.
[04:56] <ccooke> catfox: what for?
[04:56] <samuel> cool, is NWN still played online much?
[04:56] <catfox> xorg.conf and ati drivers. unless i'm thinking of something else :)
[04:56] <ccooke> samuel: if you're into RPGs, yeah :-)
[04:56] <selinium> ccooke: NWN ? neverwinter?
[04:56] <sambagirl> it's amazing the level of knowledge in this channel. amazing.
[04:56] <KasperTech> Hm.. ccooke: The one I'm wanting to buy is a Vega-machine.. d'you know if it'll be okay?
[04:57] <ccooke> catfox: in breezy... all you need to do is install the restricted modules for your kernel, add 'fglrx' to /etc/modules
[04:57] <samuel> cool, i will have to get back into it =)
[04:57] <Chousuke> ccooke: That's pretty amazing development then.
[04:57] <ccooke> catfox: then in xorg.conf, change 'radeon' to 'fglrx' and add below it 'Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
[04:57] <catfox> ccooke, good stuff, i'll give that a go. is it easy to get a second monitor working?
[04:58] <Chousuke> ccooke: I'm still a bit sceptical though.
[04:58] <selinium> sambagirl, we are all here to help!
[04:58] <ccooke> Chousuke: why?
[04:58] <ccooke> catfox: it's nothing complicated if you know xorg.conf
[04:58] <Chousuke> ccooke: because I've never heard anyone say anything good about ATi drivers before.
[04:58] <KasperTech> Vega with 256 GeForce 6600 (1685$) vs. Zepto with ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (1703$) What to choose?
[04:59] <ccooke> Chousuke: yes. They used to be *terrible*.
[04:59] <KasperTech> (the ATI is 128mb)
[04:59] <catfox> ccooke,  i'm comforatble editing it, just never added a second monitor. on a laptop, does it use the tvout port?
[04:59] <Quinthius> Chousuke: that's just because it's trendy to bash ati :P
[04:59] <ccooke> Chousuke: 8.16.20 made an absolutely huge difference
[04:59] <Chousuke> KasperTech: The nvidia one is cheaper.
[04:59] <Chousuke> :P
[04:59] <samuel> ive only been using ubuntu for a couple of weeks but i think the community is great =)
[04:59] <Strog> nvidia would be my choice everytime
[04:59] <KasperTech> Chousuke: Woops, um... switched prizes :P
[04:59] <ccooke> catfox: ... well, it can.
[04:59] <knewt>  /part
[04:59] <Chousuke> I'd go with the nvidia still
[05:00] <ccooke> catfox: you *might* need one more option on the config
[05:00] <catfox> ccooke, righto, might have to look around a bit first. does it still use xinerama?
[05:00] <KasperTech> Chousuke, ccooke, Strog: Vega laptop with 256 mb GeForce 6600 (1703$) vs. Zepto with ATI Radeon Mobility X600 128 mb (1685$) What to choose?
[05:00] <ccooke> KasperTech: if you're going with Breezy, they're each about as good as the other from ease of use. Try a hardware review site to see which card is better?
[05:00] <KasperTech> That's the right info.
[05:00] <samuel> personally i nvr had much luck with ati drivers, nvidia have always worked better for me
[05:00] <Chousuke> KasperTech: the nvidia one
[05:01] <Chousuke> or, it depends.
[05:01] <Chousuke> what are the other specs?
[05:01] <ccooke> KasperTech: if you go with Hoary, go for the nvidia.
[05:01] <KasperTech> 1,7 pentium M
[05:01] <KasperTech> 1 gig ddr ram
[05:01] <gregg_> go for the nvidia one, nvidia's linux support is really quite good
[05:01] <KasperTech> ccooke: Humm okay. :)
[05:01] <Chousuke> the nvidia has more memory too.
[05:01] <KasperTech> Okay, the nvidia it is.
[05:01] <Strog> KasperTech: I've had waaay less issues with nvidia and I'd go that route but you are free to choose. :)
[05:01] <ccooke> catfox: not unless you have two graphics cards
[05:01] <sno_> someone has good backports? query..
[05:02] <Chousuke> and it's not that much more expensive.