[00:00] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | sivik
[00:00] <sivik> Dr_Willis, I will check that out
[00:00] <sivik> thx
[00:03] <Ramir00> all yes???
[00:05] <needhelp1> im having issues with shared folders, right clicked folder, installed needed software, file shows shared, unable to access from other pc in  home. both pcs running ubuntu linux, im able to ping the o
[00:05] <needhelp1> other computers ip's
[00:06] <needhelp1> smb://ipaddress doesnt work
[00:06] <needhelp1> i can see workgroup, click on it, takes forever then a pop up error 'unable to mount location' failed to retrieve share list from server'
[00:06] <needhelp1> sudo apt-get install samba shows i have the newest version
[00:09] <enbloc^> Natty - automatic update today, kernel 2.6 -> 3.0 is the first thing I noticed - X is broken, gdm complaining about security issues. anyone know whats up?
[00:10] <xangua> enbloc^: use natty kernel ;)
[00:10] <xangua> !info linux
[00:10] <anth0ny> in Compiz, what is the name of the function that you can use to instantly place windows around your desktop (resizes them to fit in the left half, right half, or the corners of the screen)?
[00:11] <enbloc^> !i did not manually install this kernel
[00:11] <Joe0006> how to download boot-up manager for ubuntu ?
[00:13] <thiconZ> can someone let me know if the latest version of Ubuntu is compatible with a Compaq nx9010 laptop?
[00:13] <Ellipsis753> edbian, thanks I'll try that
[00:13] <edbian> Ellipsis753: haha, ok.  That was 15 minutes?
[00:13] <edbian> ago?
[00:13] <Tomatix_> so, uh, which command would help me figuring what process(es) blocks unmounting my USB stick?
[00:13] <edbian> thiconZ: The best way to know is to boot a liveCD and see for yourself.
[00:13] <Ellipsis753> edbian, sure, I afk sometimes. sorry
[00:14] <Be-Love> openswan tunnels not working after Hardy->Lucid upgrade. Getting an EVENT_CRYPTO_FAILED error. Anyone happen to be an Openswan guru?
[00:14] <edbian> Ellipsis753: no worries.  I was watching futurama!
[00:14] <thiconZ> edbian i would but the problem is the laptop doesn't really boot up with any OS right now since i had to rebuild it with out one
[00:15] <edbian> thiconZ: If you can't boot a liveCD you won't be able to install linux
[00:15] <edbian> thiconZ: I don't think you understand what a liveCD is
[00:15] <thiconZ> i understand what it is
[00:15] <thiconZ> i've used one before
[00:16] <edbian> thiconZ: I don't understand why it matters that this machine doesn't have an OS and was re-built recently.
[00:16] <thiconZ> i got it on a USB right now but not a CD
[00:16] <edbian> thiconZ: Then boot the liveUSB
[00:16] <edbian> thiconZ: ?
[00:16] <thiconZ> umm well i tried that
[00:16] <edbian> thiconZ: What happened?
[00:17] <thiconZ> but it started up and went to the Ubuntu screen and during it's loading screen the screen went black and has been black for like 15 minutes or so now
[00:17] <kinglet> Hello guys, I want to install Ubuntu 11.04 on my notebook (HP Probook 4530s) but I got this error "Kernel - Panic, Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block" and after restart win7 cannot load and I had to resore it! I tried Ubuntu 10.04 and got same problem. What do you think?
[00:17] <thiconZ> and thats why i am asking if anyone knows if it works with the laptop
[00:18] <thiconZ> so do you think that means it isn't compatible with it edbian?
[00:19] <edbian> thiconZ: aaah, this is a common problem recently.  Have you tried nomodeset?
[00:19] <edbian> thiconZ: Also, this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[00:20] <thiconZ> hmm that link you gave me is not what is happening to me
[00:20] <Kamikaze> if i install Linux Fedora(in one other partition) alongside with Ubuntu, would they conflict with each other, or harm anyhow my PC/systems ?
[00:20] <edbian> thiconZ: What is different?
[00:20] <thiconZ> umm the back light is lit and i have a mouse
[00:20] <thiconZ> and every now and then i am able to move the mouse
[00:20] <edbian> thiconZ: But everything is black?
[00:21] <edbian> thiconZ: behind the mouse?
[00:21] <thiconZ> yes
[00:21] <Kamikaze> if i install Linux Fedora(in one other partition) alongside with Ubuntu, would they conflict with each other, or harm anyhow my PC/systems ?
[00:21] <thiconZ> but the BIOS screen isn't appearing like the link said would
[00:21] <edbian> thiconZ: Can you press ctrl + alt + F1  ?
[00:21] <thiconZ> i will try now
[00:21] <edbian> Kamikaze: You'll need to edit grub but that should be it
[00:22] <thiconZ> hmm i am not able to edbian
[00:22] <krux> Kamikaze, you could have 100 os loaded into grub if you wanted to should not affect each other :)
[00:22] <Joe0006> how to download boot-up manager for ubuntu ?
[00:22] <edbian> thiconZ: Well if you don't see a bios screen that's because you turned it off on the computer (or it came with the POST message turned off).  The bios happens before and is completely independent of the OS.
[00:22] <n4dsp> is there a ubuntu download that will translate to english other languages for websites?
[00:23] <thiconZ> i opened the BIOS before i ran the LiveUSB and made sure it was set to boot from the USB
[00:23] <edbian> thiconZ: reboot and press escape early in the boot process
[00:23] <thiconZ> okay
[00:23] <Kamikaze> krux: edbian i would be glad if i knew what's the "grub" :) im sorry im a new guys in this field and not so well skilled )
[00:23] <hylian> Joe0006, to do what?
[00:23] <edbian> thiconZ: It's good that you set the bios to boot the USB.  The fact that you see anything ubuntu at all means that step is working
[00:23] <thiconZ> okay
[00:23] <Joe0006> ok i found out
[00:23] <Joe0006> thanks
[00:23] <thiconZ> i rebooted and entered BIOS
[00:23] <krux> Kamikaze, grub would be the boot loader
[00:24] <thiconZ> should i just exit BIOS and continue boot up?
[00:24] <edbian> Kamikaze: grub is a program that sits in the very beginning of the hdd.  It tells the motherboard where the OS's are
[00:24] <edbian> thiconZ: Please use my name when talking to me :)  Unless you wanna PM ?
[00:24] <faustisch>  I downloaded the source code to gnome-applets, please will anyone tell me where Wanda the Fish is?
[00:24] <faustisch>  I did not find it in gnome-applets
[00:24] <thiconZ> lol okay, idc which way
[00:24] <edbian> thiconZ: (yes, exit bios settings) are you saying escape key entered the bios in the first place?
[00:24] <thiconZ> edbian: yes
[00:25] <edbian> thiconZ: alright, when you see ubuntu anything press escape.  Let's PM
[00:25] <thiconZ> edbian: could we maybe actually use PM to make it a bit easier?
[00:25] <thiconZ> lol okay
[00:25] <hylian> faustisch, actually it's in a gnome applet called fish, no in gnome-applets.
[00:25] <Kamikaze> krux: edbian how cool:) so i have 4 partitions, 1 of them is Ubuntu, 2 of them are Data partitions(music,video,pics etc) and the last one is unused completely, so if i install fedora in this unused one, would be everything great ?:)
[00:26] <faustisch> hylian, thank you
[00:26] <hylian> faustisch, where you looking for the fish source, or the file where the quotes are?
[00:26] <edbian> Kamikaze: Fedora should install grub so that you can boot both Ubuntu and Fedora (a menu when your computer boots).  I'm not sure fedora will do that.  It should.  If it does not come back and I can help you fix it
[00:26] <krux> ^^
[00:27] <hylian> faustisch, no problem
[00:27] <faustisch> hylian, fish - a friendly interactive shell
[00:27] <faustisch> hylian, that's what apt-cache says
[00:28] <Kamikaze> edbian: you are completely kindness :) thanks for support Sr. actually I'm gonna install backtrack not fedora) for some reason i did't want to say that :D
[00:28] <hylian> faustisch, yeah, some people use a program called fortune, or fortunes to add funny quotes to fish, and that's a pretty common question, so i thought i would ask.
[00:28] <edbian> Kamikaze: ha-sure
[00:28] <edbian> Kamikaze: don't mention that again :)
[00:28] <Kamikaze> edbian: :D
[00:29] <krux> better backtrack than fedora LOL.. hate rpms
[00:29] <Kamikaze> edbian: Sr, can ext4 file system contain date files? like music pics videos etc... ?)
[00:29] <faustisch> hylian, yeah, I use offensive fortunes
[00:29] <hylian> faustisch, i was wrong, a webiste says it's in the package fish, but i believe it to be in the package gnome-panel-data under the fish heading
[00:30] <faustisch> hylian, thanks bro
[00:30] <edbian> Kamikaze: yes
[00:30] <hylian> faustisch, hope it helps.
[00:30] <petriborg> in 10.04, i seem to have removed / lost one of my menus (the icon menu that Empathy and mail show up in) - anyone know what its named in the "add to panel" dialog, or how to otherwise get it back?
[00:31] <xangua> !panels | petriborg
[00:31] <xangua> or just add teh indicator
[00:31] <rumpe1> petriborg, indicator complete
[00:31] <petriborg> ah thanks xangua / rumpe1
[00:31] <petriborg> that worked, thanks
[00:31] <Kamikaze> edbian: well, while i will be installing backtrack i will delete all partitions, and divide them again for 4 pieces, my question is, should i create all of them in ext4 file system ?:) sorry for long and boring questions.
[00:32] <edbian> Kamikaze: If you delete all partitions you will delete all your personal data and ubuntu
[00:32] <faustisch> is the next Ubuntu release going to be shipped with GNOME 3?
[00:33] <Kamikaze> edbian: im aware of that, but afterwards i done removal, should i re-create all partitions as ext4 file system ?
[00:33] <edbian> Kamikaze: You can.  Or you can do it with the ubuntu installer (assuming you're going to reinstall ubuntu
[00:33] <needhelp2> hello
[00:34] <Kamikaze> edbian: because it offers some other file system types such as fat 16 32 ext4 3 and some other kinds, im not sure which one i need therefore im asking )
[00:34] <needhelp2> I'm trying to install ubuntu but it keeps failing to load because of a wireless card, ubuntu thinks its another driver but its not, which causes a kernel crash
[00:34] <edbian> Kamikaze: ext4
[00:34] <hylian> faustisch, that's what they say, gnome 3 will be there instead of gnome 2... or maybe just the shell??
[00:34] <induz> is there any s/w application to write batch files that read one after one
[00:34] <faustisch> hylian, I can't wait
[00:34] <Kamikaze> edbian: thanks :)
[00:35] <needhelp2> how do I either disable networkmanager (so it doesn't try to use the card with an incorrect driver) or what I want most is to disable the driver / module all together
[00:35] <needhelp2> ?
[00:35] <induz> I want to run 2-3 batch files but i want to select them at different orders
[00:35] <induz> is it possible in ubuntu
[00:35] <hylian> faustisch, i agree, i consider gnome 3 to be light years ahead of unity..
[00:36] <induz> NetBeans can do it??
[00:36] <triplc> hi all
[00:36] <hylian> induz, i am having a hard time understanding exactly what you are referring to, you want them to go off one at a time, at a certain time, i.e. 3pm?
[00:37] <hylian> triplc, hello
[00:37] <Kamikaze> edbian: may i ask one other question ? pls
[00:37] <Jordan_U> induz: Can you try to clarify what you're trying to do? What is your end goal?
[00:37] <induz> hylian, not at scheduled time...but in different orders
[00:37] <triplc> Which command to tell udev reload it's rules (/etc/udev/rules") for ubuntu 10.04 (lts)? (no need to reboot)?
[00:37] <needhelp2> any help ?
[00:37] <edbian> Kamikaze: yes
[00:38] <hylian> induz, just one after another, or after a certain command or operation in the batch file has completed?
[00:38] <Kamikaze> edbian: is deletion of partition and re-create it equal to formating it ? is it the same thing ?
[00:38] <edbian> Kamikaze: yes
[00:38] <edbian> Kamikaze: effectively
[00:38] <induz> hylian, the second option...
[00:38] <Kamikaze> thanks Sr :)
[00:39] <needhelp2> Kamikaze: can you see my text (checking that I can speak in channel without auth) ?
[00:39] <hylian> induz, i don;t know off hand, but let me take a crack at it.
[00:39] <induz> hylian, pl
[00:39] <Kamikaze> needhelp2: i do :)
[00:39] <hylian> induz, i'm gonna see if i can find info on google
[00:39] <needhelp2> :/
[00:39] <needhelp2> all these people here and not one idea ?
[00:40] <th0r> needhelp2: you didn't give much information....you reap what you sow
[00:40] <triplc> Which command to tell udev reload it's rules (/etc/udev/rules.d") for ubuntu 10.04 (lts)? (no need to reboot)? (question reposted)
[00:40] <induz> hydh, batchcomander is there but...but i am looing for something better
[00:41] <induz> hylian,  batchcomander is there but...but i am looing for something better
[00:41] <mandarg> needhelp2: You could begin by telling us the exact error message
[00:42] <hylian> if anyone can help induz, i'd appreciate it. he wants a way to launch batch files in a given order per operation, i believe
[00:43] <hylian> induz, well, i'll do a little more research.
[00:43] <induz> hylian, thanks
[00:44] <hylian> induz, there is a call procedure for batch commands that might do the tricl, here's the website for it: http://www.robvanderwoude.com/call.php
[00:45] <hylian> induz, i goofed up, that's for ms windows batch files, i yiy yiy.
[00:45] <Jordan_U> induz: Can you try to clarify what you're trying to do? What is your end goal?
[00:46] <induz> Jordan_U, my end goal is to call different batch files as and when i want them
[00:47] <induz> Jordan_U, but i want to have a program not m,any differnt batch files
[00:48] <hylian> induz, this gives some help in bash batch calling. you would have to build a master batch file to control the others, here's where i get my info: http://nixcraft.com/shell-scripting/564-call-function-bash.html
[00:48] <Jordan_U> induz: First, in *NIX they're called "shell scripts". I still don't understand what you want. Can you give me an example scenario? For instance "I wand to be able to type 'backitup' in a terminal and have it run my backup script"?
[00:48] <hylian> induz then the proper way to call another bash script would be like this: /bin/bash /home/mylnx/script_a
[00:49] <edbian> Hello?
[00:49] <hylian> edbian, hello back... :)
[00:49] <edbian> hylian: thanks
[00:49] <edbian> thiconZ: Hi!
[00:50] <hylian> Jordan_U, he wants to be able to control a script's launch based on a operation in another script, like calling on a sub.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> hylian: that's fine. Very possible
[00:51] <hylian> ActionParsnip, great, can you tell induz how, he is the one who needs the answer... thanks! :)
[00:52] <induz> Jordan_U, I want to type 'User' in terminal and it should show me all the USERS in a group
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> induz: keep your scripts in /usr/bin   you can call a script and have it perform some logic, you can then call other scripts and it will work
[00:53] <linuxuz3r_> induz, try grep 1000 /etc/passwd
[00:54] <induz> ActionParsnip, ok I may try that...but i want to have a master file
[00:54] <edbian> thiconZ: hello?
[00:54] <linuxuz3r_> hi
[00:54] <linuxuz3r_> sup
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> induz: that's fine, no problem
[00:55] <MagicJ> I have installed thunderbird and want to use enigmail with it.  Enigmail tells me that it can;t run with Thunderbird 3.1.11 - do I have the wrong version of the addon or thunderbird
[00:55]  * hylian thinks thiconZ is afk or a net zombie
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> induz: the commands in a script can be the usual stock commands or you can use your own scripts
[00:56] <hylian> ActionParsnip, by the way, thanks for being helpful! :)
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> hylian: always
[00:56] <edbian> thiconZ: I am here!!!
[00:57] <hylian> edbian, unless he/she changed there name they are not registering as logged in, i.e. typing thi and hitting tab will not give their name.
[00:57] <hylian> thiconZ, edbian seeketh you
[00:58] <edbian> hylian: I am talking to him in PM But thanks :S
[00:58] <edbian> hylian: He keeps disconnecting
[00:58] <thiconZ> Hylian i know i am pming him
[00:58] <aze> you speack french ?
[00:59] <hylian> edbian, yeah, sorry.  I have problems with WiFi broadcom BCM5787M how do I install it?
[00:59] <hylian> edbian, thanks.
[01:00] <aze> ubuntu is not french ?
[01:00] <youssefk> :)
[01:00] <youssefk> no it isn't
[01:00] <hylian> aze, the word ubuntu is a african derived word, if that's what you meant.
[01:00] <marriedman624> I need some help upgrading firefox from 5.0.1 to 6.0 on ubuntu 9.10
[01:01] <marriedman624> I downloading the tar.gz but not sure what to do now...........or should I wait until the repository gets updated?
[01:01] <hylian> marriedman624, let me see if i can find a package for that, because 9.10 is no longer supported, or so i thought.
[01:01] <faryshta> Hi. I have problems with WiFi broadcom BCM5787M how do I install it?
[01:01] <aze> I know but the project is ...... ?
[01:02] <xangua> !fx6 | marriedman624
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> !9.10
[01:02] <xangua> marriedman624: ooh 9.10 is no longer supported, but you just hve to extract firefox and run it
[01:03] <marriedman624> yeah i know 9.10 isn't supported anymore, but it took me forever to get my wifi working so I don't want to lose that
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> assuming the right libs are on 9.10 to run the newer versions
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> my wifi was problmatic in the 8 and 9 series.. but now in 10.+ it works out of the box,. :)
[01:03] <Pauliax> where from to download new amd drivers, on theyr dont find any?
[01:03] <hylian> aze, the project is a worldwide one, ubuntu means community. but the project itself is worldwide.
[01:03] <rumpe1> marriedman624, why not try a newer ubuntu as live-medium to check, if your wifi now works out-of-the-box?
[01:04] <faryshta> marriedman624, why don't you try to run a live cd?
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> Pauliax:  drivers for what exactly?  You should be trying to use the ones in the repos.
[01:04] <hylian> marriedman624, if your looking for the us english version, this page will download a fiel you can install it with: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-6.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[01:04] <Pauliax> hd200
[01:04] <Pauliax> o no hd 2600
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> Pauliax: and that is a ?
[01:05] <Pauliax> hd 2600 xt
[01:05] <aze> hylian ok sorry my stupid question :)
[01:05] <marriedman624> yeah, hadn't thought about the live cd option, may give that a try someday
[01:05] <hylian> aze in case you would like more info on the meaning, this is a pretty good explanantion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29
[01:05] <hylian> aze there are never stupid questions :)
[01:06] <aze> hylian thank you
[01:06] <linuxuz3r__> 1+1=0
[01:06] <hylian> marriedman624, 9.10 repos will NOT be updated, because it's no longer supported. as for the tar.gz file, that's a zipped file, have you ever used compressed files before?
[01:07] <marriedman624> hylian: I have never really figured them out on ubuntu......i have the tar.gz file.......can you PM me and help me out?
[01:07] <Pauliax> the case is amd not suporint amd ubuntu drivers. but they released, but no longer
[01:08] <th0r> marriedman624: if he can't I can...let me know
[01:10] <sonn> Can there be any conversion. exe file under ubuntu? If so how?
[01:10] <hylian> marriedman624, i did start a pm with you, it should be on your top left, if you are using xchat
[01:10] <th0r> sonn: you can sometimes use wine to run an exe file
[01:10] <xangua> sonn: conversion ¿
[01:11] <Pauliax> any and grafic card users?
[01:12] <p_res> hey
[01:12] <sonn> thOr why "you can sometimes" ?
[01:12] <bazhang> sonn, conversion? no. you may be able to run apps with wine though. check the appdb and join #winehq
[01:12] <p_res> dumped ubuntu this morning folks.
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> !wine | sonn
[01:13] <faryshta> Hi. I have problems with WiFi broadcom BCM5787M how do I install it?
[01:13] <th0r> sonn: not everything runs under wine
[01:13] <bazhang> sonn /join #winehq
[01:13] <Pauliax> any and grafic card users?
[01:13] <bazhang> Pauliax, what is the real question
[01:13] <markdaws> hi - I am trying to configure the tcp_fin_timeout value, using "sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_fin_timeout=15" the value changes but it doesn't actually change the timeout for the TIME_WAIT state, looking in "netstat -o" I can see the TIME_WAIT TCP connections are still timing out from the default of 60 seconds.  Changing other values like ip_conntrack_max does have an effect on the system.  How can I change the tcp_fin_timeout value
[01:13] <markdaws> on ubuntu, thanks
[01:14] <sonn> thank for renseignement :)
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> Pauliax:  most oldder/ not supported by the fglrx drivers cards.. normally work with the open sourced drivers to some degree..  what IS your card doing/not doing exctly
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> Pauliax:  many new cards/just released. may not work with the cuirrent version of the fglrx drivers.
[01:15] <urlin2u> faryshta, there is a ubuntu wiki on broadcom cards
[01:15] <p_res> a/v card are touch and go. sometimes it's best to just try it. or google it first.
[01:15] <Pauliax> do anyone updates amd drivers, and talk about free source drivers i want to have 3D
[01:16] <bazhang> Pauliax, please ask a detailed question; asking that way will get zero response
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> Pauliax:  that statement did not make much sence..  if amd/ati does not have proper fglrx drivers for the card.. then you will be limited in your options.
[01:17] <p_res> do you feel in competition with other linux distros?
[01:17] <bazhang> p_res, not the channel for that
[01:17] <p_res> then where?
[01:17] <p_res> offtopic?
[01:18] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic p_res
[01:18] <p_res> thanks
[01:18] <p_res> ;-)
[01:18] <Pauliax> lont time on ubuntu, and opensuse i had no 3d, no amd stoped releasing they drivers HD 2600
[01:18] <bazhang> Pauliax, so they have no support for 3D?
[01:19] <Pauliax> now has, but i am in fear
[01:20] <Pauliax> since amd no longer has driver dowload
[01:20] <Pauliax> is it my crafic card?
[01:21] <Kaidelong> just about everything stopped working after ubuntu upgraded itself to natty narwhal. Most of that seems fixed now, given that I'm here talking about it. Empathy now hangs on startup, and that didn't happen before
[01:21] <bazhang> Kaidelong, nothing upgrades itself
[01:21] <xplo> hey there, is there a public Discount Code for the buying of ubuntu cd's ?
[01:21] <Kaidelong> what I think is happening is
[01:21] <Pauliax> Ubuntu working good, just ww.amd.com not
[01:22] <xplo> i remember when it was free.. Good times.
[01:22] <Kaidelong> empathy is waiting for dbus to do something
[01:22] <Kaidelong> and it is just sitting there waiting
[01:22] <bazhang> Kaidelong, sounds like a bug, file one
[01:22] <bazhang> !bugs > Kaidelong
[01:24] <Kaidelong> I want to make sure it is not user error first
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> Pauliax:  if ati/amd dropped support for the card from the offical fglrx drivers.. then its gone.. you must use the open sourced drivers..    Unless we are missunderstanding your problem.
[01:25] <Nighthwk> Can anyone help me why ubuntu 11.04 crashes transfering a 15gig file on samba?
[01:26] <Pauliax> i dont know about, my grapfic card but what chood i use?
[01:26] <xplo> hey there, is there a public Discount Code for the buying of ubuntu cd's ?
[01:26] <xplo> or a way to still have one free ?
[01:26] <selite> Hello Everyone when trying to open Skype I get "another instance of Skype is running" error and I can't login? Anyone willing to help?
[01:27] <muellisoft> selite: have you tried to reboot..? (I'm not messing)
[01:27] <selite> muellisoft: Yes I tried it. Still, same thing
[01:27] <Guest5539> Ok, have this really strange question I'm hoping you guys can help with....is there a way to make a sort of pipe that when someone does fopen like a normal file, it runs a program and connects to its stdin/out?
[01:27] <rocfatcat> #join Coscup
[01:28] <Kaidelong> yeah I think this might be a bug in empathy
[01:28] <Kaidelong> I'll go to bugs
[01:28] <Muelli> selite: hm. I don't Skype at all, but I'd imagine it to put a file in ~/.skype or ~/.local/skype/ or so. Could you check those locations and move files to /tmp/ if they exist?
[01:29] <Kaidelong> I will try rebooting first just in case
[01:29] <aetas> Aww....no one has heard of such a pipe? :(
[01:29] <selite> Muelli: I have no idea where to find the Skype directory.
[01:29] <Jordan_U> Guest5539: You can "mkfifo /path/to/fifo; cat /path/to/fifo | my_command".
[01:29] <Jordan_U> Guest42032: What is your end goal?
[01:30] <Muelli> selite: maybe ~/.skype/  open a file browser and browse your directory. A shell might be easier to use though.
[01:30] <Jordan_U> aetas: ^^
[01:30] <aetas> Jordan_U, I want it so when Xorg tries to read a conf file, it launches a program which lets it read its output instead of a file
[01:30] <aetas> Jordan_U, I thought that would be sexy
[01:30] <marriedman624> hylian: it worked
[01:31] <hylian> marriedman624, alright, glad to hear it!
[01:31] <marriedman624> hylian: now I have to upgrade flash player from tar.gz............can you help me with that??
[01:31] <Jordan_U> aetas: That can certainly be accomplished with a fifo, but it sounds like an awefully ugly hack. Why do you want to be able to do this when Xorg can already configure itself dynamically?
[01:31] <hylian> marriedman624, hmm, i can try. do you have the file already?
[01:32] <marriedman624> hylian: yes, just extracted it
[01:32] <hylian> marriedman624, ahh, good man. ok look inside, again we are looking for bin or make files
[01:32] <aetas> Jordan_U, I'm running into a problem where if I configure my mouse's button mappings in the config then they get all screwed to hell.  If I set them using xinput with the same, it works perfectly.  I wanted to make it so that whenever Xorg read that file, it would go ahead and set them via xinput
[01:33] <hylian> marriedman624, there might also be a file with a simple name, i.e. flash, or flashplugin
[01:33] <aetas> Jordan_U, how would it work with the fifo? Im curious, even if I dont go that route
[01:34] <marriedman624> hylian: there is a usr folder and a lib file, in the usr folder there is a bin folder, and in the bin folder there is flash-player-properties
[01:34] <marriedman624> hylian: can i update flash player from apt?
[01:34] <Jordan_U> aetas: The first thing you should do is figure out how to properly set this up in the Xorg.conf. If there really is a bug you're running into you should file a bug report.
[01:34] <bazhang> marriedman624, thats not the way to upgrade flash
[01:34] <marriedman624> bazhang: which way?
[01:34] <bazhang> marriedman624, go outside package management and you will have to manually update that every time
[01:35] <hylian> marriedman624, yeah, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:35] <bazhang> marriedman624, use the package manager, which is the supported method
[01:35] <aetas> Jordan_U, bug reports dont fix bugs.  that would take a week or two to get that fixed and I need something consistent and working now.  filing a bug report is not a better solution than a hack since atleast a hack will work now
[01:35] <marriedman624> hylian: bazhang I'll give it a try........hold on
[01:35] <hylian> bazhang, apt IS the package manager. it's the command line version of synaptic...
[01:36] <bazhang> hylian, yes, I am aware of that..
[01:36] <Kaidelong> found the culprit
[01:36] <Jordan_U> aetas: Right now you can modify your xinitrc or set a script to run when your gnome session starts.
[01:36] <Kaidelong> upgrade wizard seems to have removed some packages empathy needed
[01:36] <Kaidelong> just reinstalled it and now it works
[01:36] <hylian> bazhang, ohh, maybe i missed something...
[01:37] <Jordan_U> aetas: mkfifo /etc/X11/xorg.conf; while cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf-real > /etc/X11/xorg.conf; do myscript; done
[01:37] <bazhang> hylian, he was trying to manually upgrade flash, outside package management
[01:37] <cypha> i'd like alt+1 to be made available in my terminal
[01:37] <cypha> how can I unbind it?
[01:38] <hylian> bazhang, ohh, i miss understood. he is using 9.10, and may not have another option. i don't know how well it's maintained being not supported,
[01:38] <bazhang> hylian, its end of life, so not supported here
[01:39] <bazhang> !eol > marriedman624
[01:39] <aetas> Jordan_U, am I correct in assuming that won't restart after its been read once?  I know you can get around it, just wanted to verify
[01:39] <bazhang> marriedman624, if you are on 9.10 then upgrade to a supported version
[01:39] <Jordan_U> aetas: That is the purpose of the while loop.
[01:39] <hylian> bazhang, yeah, i know. i told him that, but i am willing to try and help...
[01:40] <aetas> Jordan_U, the reason I haven't relied on init scripts is because its part of a KVM that gets switched out often.  The closest I can get is with udev and an init script both
[01:40] <Jordan_U> aetas: Otherwise you could freeze Xorg as it blocks on the read from a fifo that's getting no input (you hopefully starting to see the uglyness in this).
[01:40] <marriedman624> bazhang: I understand what eol is and the 9.10 isn't supported, but until I get a chance to upgrade I'm going to have to run with 9.10...........thanks for the help
[01:40] <aetas> Jordan_U, do you know if Xorg reloads configs when devices are inserted or do they rely on their already loaded config?
[01:40] <oneman> hello
[01:40] <Jordan_U> aetas: I would expect it to be the latter, but I don't know.
[01:40] <aetas> Jordan_U, I didnt ask you to show me so I can use it, I asked you to show me so I can learn the concept ;)
[01:40] <hylian> marriedman624, why are you still using 9.10, by the way, hardware run better on it, or ?? here is a list of the supported versions: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[01:41] <bazhang> marriedman624, unsupported means dont ask for support here
[01:41] <oneman> Can anyone tell me if curl or wget is installed on a stock default ubuntu system?
[01:41] <cbhl> oneman: No.
[01:41] <hylian> marriedman624, i see. so did it work?
[01:41] <cbhl> oneman: Neither.
[01:41] <bazhang> hylian, feel free to support him via PM if he refuses to upgrade to a supported version
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> !info wget
[01:41] <oneman> cbhl, no scriptable http downloader?
[01:41] <hylian> bazhang, will do. thanks
[01:41] <oneman> is there anything else ;P
[01:41] <oneman> hehe
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> wget = standard = installed by default i think
[01:42] <oneman> ahh
[01:42] <bazhang> oneman, of course it is
[01:42] <oneman> good
[01:42] <cbhl> it might have changed in natty; i've had to install wget manually before
[01:42] <rumpe1> !info curl
[01:42] <ragil_nugroho> hi'
[01:42] <oneman> cbhl, yeah I recall installing manually as well
[01:42] <oneman> thanks guys
[01:42] <marriedman624> bazhang: hey thanks for the help buddy, i'll take all my questions to pm
[01:42] <oneman> instantly helped
[01:43] <hylian> marriedman624, i am in pm mode with ya.
[01:43] <aetas> Jordan_U, I appreciate the help and the pipe thing is a neat trick I may use utility-wise some day.  I think udev + initrc will be best for now.  Which initrc should I stick it?
[01:44] <chamiltonj> -
[01:45] <bd1308> greetings.
[01:45] <bd1308> Is there a widespread 11.04 memory leak with things like Unity/Beryl/nm-applet?
[01:46] <bazhang> bd1308, beryl is compiz now, beryl has not existed for a long time
[01:46] <GreenEmber> anyone know anything about pgp.net being down?
[01:46] <bd1308> bazhang: Compiz I meant.
[01:46] <bd1308> It's been a long day
[01:46] <bd1308> just getting tired of bouncing dev machines.
[01:47] <bazhang> bd1308, not as far as I know, you can check launchpad, but unity and compiz have some issues presently in 11.04 (not sure about memory leaks though)
[01:47] <bazhang> bd1308, there is also the compiz channel  #compiz
[01:48] <Nighthwk> Can anyone help me with samba??? Everytime I trasnfer a file over 5 gig from win machine it crashes my ubuntu machine. Please help
[01:49] <Pauliax> maybe fat 32
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> Nighthwk:  as a work around you could use ssh/winscp. ive never noticed any large file issues with samba,
[01:49] <bazhang> GreenEmber, works here
[01:49] <GreenEmber> bazhang: wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net is down i should have said, but i cannot go to pgp.net either
[01:49] <GreenEmber> bazhang: is that working as well for you?
[01:50] <Nighthwk> Dr_willis I install samba from software center, is there anything else I need t oadd to it?
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> Nighthwk:  to transfer FROM windows to linux box. You really dont eve need the samba service installed..  or are you going the OTHER way> linux to win?
[01:51] <bazhang> GreenEmber, lets go to PM for this please
[01:51] <GreenEmber> ok
[01:52] <katronixserf> hi all, a while ago I renamed a file so that Ubuntu wouldn't start in X, can someone remind me what file that was?
[01:52] <Nighthwk> Dr_willis both
[01:52] <hylian> katronixserf, was it xorg.conf?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> Nighthwk:  if you can  transfer little files back and fortjh then stuff is working.
[01:53] <Pauliax> any of using amdgrafic card if so whitch?
[01:54] <Nighthwk> Dr_willis I just reinstall ubuntu and still happens
[01:54] <katronixserf> hylian might have been...
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> Pauliax:  thers dozens of peopl;e in here using dozens of differnt amd/ati cards.
[01:54] <katronixserf> hylian where would I find that file?
[01:54] <dina_> hello
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> Nighthwk:  could be a samba bug/issue - you could check the forums and askubuntu .  I transfer 4gb files around all the time.. but cant recall any biffer then that,.
[01:55] <jiohdi> any reason why trying to login into gnome/openbox should fail? I get right back to the login screen like bad password, but no explanation
[01:55] <Nighthwk> ok, dr willis i take a look there
[01:56] <hylian> katronixserf, did you ask for help here? these irc channels are recorded in a file on the net for posterity.
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  x server/window manager crashin/exiting g going back to the login screen
[01:56] <Pauliax> language
[01:56] <jiohdi> Dr_Willis why would gnome openbox crash?
[01:56] <katronixserf> hylian yes I did
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  check your x logs,. or start them via 'startx' and watch the console for output/errors
[01:57] <jiohdi> Dr_Willis thanks, will do
[01:57] <Pauliax> reinstall your drivers, shold help
[01:58]  * Dr_Willis doubts that reinstalling drivers would help if GDM is working..
[01:58] <hylian> KatronixSerf, one method is "sudo mv /etc/init/gdm /etc/init/gdm.disabled"
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> try a differnt window maanger like icewm, and see if it works. as a test.
[01:58] <jiohdi> Dr_Willis where are the x logs
[01:58] <hylian> katronixserf, i think i found the backed up irc text
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  in yiour home dir .xSomthing.. i think
[01:59] <katronixserf> hylian thanks I think that is how I did it :-)
[01:59] <jiohdi> Dr_Willis icewm does not lxde and reg openbox does
[01:59] <Pauliax> try drivers from manufactor i am noob
[01:59] <bd1308> \quit
[01:59] <bd1308> .quit
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  thats even weirder then..
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  as a test make a new user,. see if the issues affect all users.
[01:59] <jiohdi> k
[02:00] <hylian> katronixserf, cool, here is the webpage that has the irc data from your conversation on it: http://ircanswers.com/ubuntu/732909/which-ubuntu-never-start-automatically#message_6642954
[02:00] <Pauliax> grub?
[02:00] <xplo> hey there, is there a public Discount Code for the buying of ubuntu cd's ?
[02:00] <xplo> or a way to still have one free ?
[02:02] <bsmith093> whats the openoffice command to find and replace 3 blank lines with one blank line?
[02:02] <edbian> bsmith093: backspace
[02:02] <edbian> bsmith093: In writer?
[02:02] <bsmith093> in openoffice
[02:02] <edbian> bsmith093: openoffice writer?
[02:02] <edbian> or spreadsheet?
[02:02] <bsmith093> using find and replace
[02:02] <bsmith093> yes
[02:03] <edbian> yes to which?
[02:03] <bsmith093> sure why not, i mean the word processor part of openoffice
[02:03] <edbian> bsmith093: that's writer.  I don't think you can
[02:03] <hylian> where is the text from this irc channel saved to on the net, i know i was looking it over before.
[02:03] <edbian> bsmith093: You cannot find the special characters that signify 'new line'
[02:03] <bazhang> !1984 | hylian
[02:03] <hylian> bazhang, you're awesome!
[02:04] <bsmith093> anyone else want to weigh in here, find and replace newlines, in openoffice word porcessor
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> if OOwriter search/replace supports regreular espressions - it should be doable. :)
[02:04] <Pauliax> i belive ctr +h
[02:04] <bsmith093> it does do regex how do i doit?
[02:06] <zakwilson> I'm using LXDE and trying to use compiz with it, but I have no title bars on my windows. I do have title bars with Gnome+Compiz. The information I'm finding about Compiz and missing title bars in four years old and doesn't seem like it should depend on what DE is running. Any suggestions?
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> lxde uses openbox by default.,  you could run compiz --replace and perahps make it start,  and run  the proper window-decorator if they vanish.
[02:07] <Pauliax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1749312
[02:10] <zakwilson> Dr_Willis: I did run compiz --replace, and compiz is currently running. I have no title bars and window controls. Running compiz-decorator attempts to run emerald, which promptly segfaults. Running emerald directly also segfaults.
[02:11] <Pauliax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1749312
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> use the gtk-decorator perhaps. emerald is basically a dead project.
[02:11] <xangua> zakwilson: you need to install a window decorator compiz supports, like metacity
[02:11] <hylian> katronixserf, did that help?
[02:11] <xangua> nonsense using a light desktop with compiz
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> the light desktop is just like the file manager and the panel... :) so whats it matter.
[02:12] <hylian> xangua, humans do like nonsense form time to time :)
[02:13] <hylian> xangua, i love my fvwm with compiz, it's pretty, LOL
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> i really dont get enough extra 'use' out  of compiz to justify using it...
[02:13] <edbian> hylian: I'm learning to set up fvwm on my laptop!  How do you change the applications that show up in the menu?
[02:13] <xangua> hylian: well ok, but if you  have fewer resources ...
[02:14] <edbian> Dr_Willis: Can't live without the scale plugin
[02:14] <hylian> xangua, i was being silly.
[02:16] <zakwilson> Dr_Willis: I'm not sure how to use the GTK decorator. There isn't a program called gtk-decorator or similar that I can find, and compiz-decorator just runs emerald.
[02:17] <hylian> edbian, this is what i used to help me. instead of gnome's pretty alacarte gui menu editor, you have ot edit a file... http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/menu.html
[02:18] <edbian> hylian: thanks
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> !find gtk-decorator
[02:18] <edbian> zakwilson: /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator
[02:18] <edbian> Dr_Willis: ^
[02:18] <hylian> edbian, also, if you have gnome installed there is a tool for adding what's in gnome's menu to the fvwm menu...
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> theres only like 3 decoratiors,. :)   one for gtk, one for qt, and emerald
[02:19] <zakwilson> xangua: Gnome is slow to load and I keep finding gnome-settings-daemon doing disk IO for no reason that I can tell. I don't lack for memory, cpu or gpu, so it's not exactly that I want *light*, but I want non-broken.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> ccsm settings i thinklets you selec tthe default one.
[02:19] <fission6> whats a nice laptop if i plan on primarily running ubuntu
[02:19] <Pauliax> also you have to had inter
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> fusion-icon tool lets you select them also.
[02:19] <hylian> edbian, fvwm-menu-desktop - builds GNOME and KDE menus and style commands for fvwm
[02:20] <zakwilson> edbian: yeah, that fixed it. Thanks.
[02:20] <edbian> zakwilson: sure
[02:20] <edbian> hylian: thanks again :)
[02:20] <hylian> edbian, no prob bob
[02:20]  * hylian is tired, and waves goodbye
[02:20] <zakwilson> Now, to get the desktop switcher in the lx panel to work right with compiz.
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> seems like a whold lot of work and twiddling for very little gain to use compiz in lxde
[02:21] <DasEi> !best | fission6
[02:22] <fission6> well i am looking for recs
[02:22] <DasEi> fission6: checkout tuxmobil and :
[02:22] <DasEi> !hcl
[02:23] <DasEi> fission6: if just search the net for ubuntu on laptop, there are similar sites
[02:24] <xangua> zakwilson: activate the desktowp switcher plugin in compiz
[02:25] <xangua> !ccsm
[02:26] <rig> hello
[02:27] <rig> any idea why xorg would be using over 30% cpu?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> flash :)
[02:27] <rig> hmm
[02:27] <rig> i'll try to remove it
[02:27] <zakwilson> xangua: I see no plugin called that. I use rotate cube.
[02:27] <rig> it starts normally, but after a while goes to over 30 and stays there
[02:28] <zakwilson> Viewport switcher is enabled
[02:28] <israel-juarez> hello
[02:28] <israel-juarez> linux mint person
[02:28] <israel-juarez> ??
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> sorry to hear that israel-juarez
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> mint has its ownb support channels  not here,
[02:30] <israel-juarez> ok tank only talk
[02:30] <rig> ok, disabled flash. lets how how that goes
[02:31] <rig> nope, still high cpu and sluggish x.
[02:31] <israel-juarez> alguin habla español?
[02:31] <rig> any other ideas?
[02:31] <cire_> needing help my sound does not work, iam using xubuntu 11.04 i tried the forums ans some other sound related fix sites
[02:32] <DasEi> cire_: alsamixer installed ?
[02:32] <cire_> yeah
[02:32] <DasEi> cire_: your chip displayed correctly in it's gui ?
[02:33] <Flannel> !es | israel-juarez
[02:33] <cire_> how can i find that
[02:33] <DasEi> (upper right corner), cire_
[02:33] <cire_> it does not show
[02:34] <DasEi> cire_:ah, so probably wrong driver
[02:34] <Jerome_> hello~
[02:34] <Jerome_> anyone can help me?
[02:34] <cire_> where can i find the driver?
[02:35] <Jerome_> my cpu fan makes great noise
[02:35] <Jerome_> i don't know how to control it
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> laptop? desktop? other?
[02:35] <Jerome_> laptop
[02:36] <Jerome_> the cpu is i3 2310m
[02:36] <Jerome_> and i found that the cpu always run at full speed
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> i would start by checking the forums and askubuntu.com  searching for that exact make of laptop. It may be theres some known problems and tweaks for it.
[02:36] <DasEi> cire_: please put nick when replying; sudo lspci
[02:38] <DasEi> cire_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[02:38] <DasEi> cire_: sudo lspci | grep Audio | pastebinit
[02:39] <DasEi> cire_: give resulting url here
[02:39] <Tracks> Hey somehow my root pasword changed; I think  Iwa compromised.
[02:39] <cire_> nick: when iopen it in the terminal sudo is asking password but when it comes it is frozen
[02:39] <Tracks> But the pasword assked by the GUI like for software updates are the same.
[02:40] <DasEi> !who | cire_, my nick is DasEi
[02:40] <Tracks> How is htis possible?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> Tracks:   you mean your 'sudo' password in the terminal is differnt then the one taht gksudo wants?
[02:40] <Tracks> I cna't access root through the terminal now?
[02:40] <cire_> sorry
[02:40] <Tracks> is gksudo is the one that does hte softare packages, yes Dr_Willis
[02:41] <Tracks> On temrinal su pw doesn't work.
[02:41] <cire_> DasEi; very sorry
[02:41] <DasEi> Tracks: could be different language (z=y) or shift pressed
[02:41] <Tracks> But it used to and some computer setting have changed so someone compromisd my system.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Tracks:  you should be using 'sudo'  as needed...   what are you running 'su pw' for ?
[02:41] <Tracks> To download CPAN stuff for Perl.
[02:41] <Tracks> Modules.
[02:42] <DasEi> cire_: all fine, no problem, it's just too crowded else, if you "nick me , your message gives me a highlighted color
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> su by default dosent grant root access on ubuntu I beluive.. unless you did some changes to it.
[02:42] <Tracks> Okay that worked sorry Dr_Willis.
[02:42] <Tracks> sudo works
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[02:43] <cire_> DasEi: i did what you told me but they ask for my password but i cannot type it, it is frozen
[02:43] <DasEi> cire_: ah
[02:43] <DasEi> cire_: open another terminal ?
[02:45] <cire_> DasEi: same problem even i opened another terminal
[02:46] <DasEi> cire_: damn, batterie of my chrystal ball are empty, can I pm you ?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> cire_: It's normal for characters not to appear when you're entering your password, it's for better security (people can't see how long your password is).
[02:46] <Jordan_U> cire_: Just enter your password and hit enter.
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> cire_:  you do know that when entering a password.. it wont echo back any characters or anything at all.. :) for many cases..
[02:47] <DasEi> cire_: ..but you should have seen pastebinit installed
[02:47] <DasEi> cire_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[02:48] <fission6> anyone here running ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[02:50] <DasEi> cire_: ?
[02:51] <propman> irc.freenode.net  #vmware
[02:51] <cire_> DasEi: thanks the sudo apt get install pastebinit works
[02:51] <DasEi> :)
[02:51] <Neoncamouflage> I changed Ubuntu so it booted to text instead of the splashscreen, which I hated. But when turning off it displays a text something like "System going down for halt NOW!". Is there any way to change the text to something nicer, like a simple "System shutting down"?
[02:51] <escott> Jordan_U, i'll strongly disagree with the "it is better for security argument" but you should see how people freak out when a password is not astericked out
[02:51] <DasEi> cire_: sudo lspci | grep Audio | pastebinit
[02:51] <DasEi> cire_: give resulting url here
[02:52] <fission6> what laptops do people have in here?
[02:53] <DasEi> fission6: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, #hardware maybe
[02:53] <cire_> Das Ei: sorry i am kinda slow where can i get the resulting url
[02:53] <xrfang> I am having problem with samba on ubuntu server 10.04: how can I make a share writeable? thanks
[02:54] <DasEi> cire_: nvm; you can copy and paste from messenger to terminal, you should get a url in terminal from last command
[02:54] <DasEi> cire_: sudo lspci | grep Audio | pastebinit
[02:55] <slackin> Why does ubuntu murder ascii text when ssh'd in to my server? This only happens with ubuntu and I use several different distros on different servers. All of them look great except ubuntu absolutely destroys my text, especially when using stuff like 'mc', basicly anything that uses ascii
[02:55] <slackin> this is getting REALLY annoying and i dont understand why its only ubuntu
[02:55] <slackin> looks great in centos, slackware, debian, suse
[02:55] <slackin> but ubuntu
[02:56] <DasEi> cire_: something like http://pastebin.com/dJffadfdr
[02:56] <slackin> i can barely read it
[02:57] <DasEi> slackin: can't share that, may try another fond/size ? sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[02:57] <DasEi> font
[02:57] <slackin> DasEi, ill try that
[02:58] <DasEi> cire_: sudo lspci | grep Audio
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> for ssh the client is picking the font.  how are you sshing in? putty? xterm?
[02:58] <slackin> DasEi, whats the normal char set, NOT utf8
[02:58] <slackin> Dr_Willis, its NOT client side at all, trust me
[02:58] <slackin> its ALL server side
[02:58] <DasEi> cire_: which chip ?
[02:58] <slackin> 100%
[02:59] <slackin> Dr_Willis, tried in many clients and its fine for EVERY other distro
[02:59] <slackin> only ubuntu does this
[02:59] <DasEi> slackin: I go utf8
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> the font usen is not set by ssh.  niw the encoding/termtype can be
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> post screen shots of the ussue perhaps
[03:00] <cire_> DasEi: still searching for it
[03:00] <slackin> Dr_Willis, its not the client
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> i have to set putty to use utf8 i recall
[03:00] <slackin> its IMPOSSIBLE for it to be the client
[03:00] <slackin> impossible
[03:01] <kyoku> i thought mod_security was apt-get install libapache2-mod-security ? isn't working in 11.04
[03:01] <olimones> Hello, does anyone know hot to fix youtube-dl? I can download.
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> post screenshots.. us my advice.
[03:01] <olimones> Can't download
[03:01] <DasEi> olimones: try video downloadhelper plugin for ff
[03:02] <olimones> DasEi: how do I get it?
[03:03] <olimones> from synaptic?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> ff olugin page
[03:03] <DasEi> olimones: no, in ff > tools > addons
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> plugin
[03:04] <DasEi> !info clive | olimones, another of few possib's
[03:05] <cire_> DesEi: i think this is the chipset [HDA ATI SB],[HDA ATI SB], STAC92xx Digital  HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI]
[03:07] <olimones> I have tried Clive, ffmpeg, youtube-dl and all of them send a message saying "ERROR: format not available for video"
[03:08] <DasEi> heh
[03:08] <DasEi> cire_: cat /proc/asound/cards | pastebinit
[03:10] <html> dhcp whats this mean?
[03:11] <bazhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol   html
[03:12] <fission6> i can install ubuntu on macbook air right?
[03:12] <html> do you need to  to be connected on a windows os?
[03:13] <riz0n> Hello friends. I want to make an Ubuntu USB thumb installer, but would like to make it with the following conditions: Ubuntu Desktop 32-bit and 64-bit, Windows 7 Installer, Windows Vista Installer, Windows XP installer. Would like to use GRUB as the bootloader. Does anyone have any experience with this and can help me make this disk, or can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks!!
[03:13] <DasEi> html: no , works for several os'es
[03:13] <bazhang> html, for dhcp? no
[03:13] <cire_> DasEi:  0 [SB             ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
[03:13] <cire_>                       HDA ATI SB at 0xfe7f4000 irq 16
[03:13] <cire_>  1 [HDMI           ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
[03:13] <cire_>                       HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfe9e8000 irq 19
[03:13] <DasEi> !paste
[03:15] <groktar> hmm, i'm trying to setup a primary domain controller with samba.  whenever i try to connect i get "Error - should be sent to WINS server".  most suggestions are to make sure i have "wins support = yes" in my smbd.conf files.  i already did that, but it's still not working. any ideas?
[03:15] <cire_> DasEi: the sound is still not working
[03:16] <html>  i trying to internet connection sharing  with a laptop  , but i screwed up   (windows)  how do i undo it
[03:16] <DasEi> cire_: so it seems the only audio is via your graphics, no sure we just tried to find out your hardware, seems it's just integrated with onboard hdmi
[03:16] <rumpe1> html, undo windows?
[03:16] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20Air%20using%20live%20CD fission6
[03:17] <cire_> DasEi: yeah it is integrated, the audio
[03:17] <fission6> interesting thanks bazhang
[03:17] <DasEi> cire_: there is a workaround from earlier times to get it to work with alsa, though still bugs reported
[03:17] <fission6> anyone have a macbook air?
[03:17] <aeon-ltd> fission6: just ask your real question
[03:17] <bazhang> fission6, better to ask a specific question related to that
[03:17] <cire_> DasEi: How???
[03:18] <fission6> just looking to see if people are happy with it
[03:18] <Joe0006> bazhang is there an http debuger in ubuntu?
[03:18] <aeon-ltd> fission6: go to offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:18] <bazhang> Joe0006, to do what
[03:18] <aeon-ltd> fission6: better yet go to ##mac
[03:18] <Joe0006> to capture HTTP requests
[03:19] <DasEi> cire_: one fast try is to try to recompile latest alsa, the rest looks rather terrifying : http://tinyurl.com/ydl4ups
[03:20] <olimones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/670557/
[03:20] <groktar> any ideas on the samba thing?
[03:20] <DasEi> cire_: is it a lappy with no chance of a dedicated soundcard ?
[03:21] <bazhang> olimones, you got the video download helper firefox plugin? that works great for youtube and the like
[03:21] <olimones> I hope someone can help me with this. I can find a solution after searching on internetè
[03:21] <cire_> DasEi: it is a desktop
[03:21] <bazhang> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ olimones
[03:22] <lighta> olimones, did you try wget ?
[03:22] <DasEi> cire_: so a quick google for that chip on lucid popped up 3 different bugs, and to not frustrate you, a simple soundcard might be best
[03:22] <cire_> DasEi: if i buy a sound card will it work
[03:22] <DasEi> cire_: yes, something common n cheap
[03:22] <DasEi> !hcl
[03:23] <html> #windows
[03:23] <cire_> DasEi: thanks a lot, i have been figuring it out for days
[03:23] <bazhang> html, /join ##windows
[03:23] <DasEi> cire_: probably one get that thing to work , too but ati is still closed source there and it might be unthankfull for a starter
[03:24] <Joe0006> how to stop avahi from starting with ubuntu?
[03:24] <Joe0006> without removing the service
[03:24] <Polah> using dpkg --get-selections I see a number of packages marked "deinstall", which I believe to mean they are removed but their configuration files remain. If I were to to dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall > packagelist, then edit that list to change "deinstall" to purge and then use dpkg --set-selections < packagelist would that safely set all file labelled "deinstall" to "purge"?
[03:24] <html> thinks ,
[03:24] <olimones> lighta: I completly forgot that... I'll try it now
[03:25] <Joe0006> how to stop avahi from starting with ubuntu without removing the service ?
[03:25] <lighta> Joe0006, look in init.d
[03:25] <OomElvis> Q: guys, im trying to change my mac address: ifconfig wlan0 down && ifconfig wlan0 hw ether 00:2B:B5:43:A5:3D && ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:26] <OomElvis> does not work... does work with windows 7 using SMAC (if the address starts with 12)
[03:26] <DasEi> cire_: to be honest, I'm up too long ( 7.20 am, nightliner), but I can imagine what it makes to you if I tell you recompile alsa and case still a no-go,  purge all pulse n lookup for ati-firmware
[03:26] <OomElvis> any ideas?
[03:27] <rumpe1> OomElvis, sometimes it needs a "iwconfig wlan0 mode managed"  (you gave no error message)
[03:27] <OomElvis> it didnt give an error
[03:27] <OomElvis> lemme try that
[03:27] <gskellig> does anybody have experience with the bumblebee hybrid graphics driver?
[03:28] <destrier> has ubuntu gained the ability to restore a crashed session, including restoring previously "unsaved" documents?
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> destrier:  that would be a neat trick.
[03:28] <selite> Guys , How do I change the email order in Evolution to appear from newest emails to oldest?
[03:28] <selite> It is very annoying.
[03:29] <destrier> Dr_Willis: gnome used to have it until v 2.24 as I understand
[03:29] <groktar> woot i got my samba thing working
[03:29] <selite> Guys , How do I change the email order in Evolution to appear from newest emails to oldest?
[03:29] <DasEi> destrier: not really, though you can set if things go to disk imediatly or are buffered
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> destrier:  im not sure how it would work if  X died and killed off your word processor..   the wp would need the feature to recover  the docs.. not the windowmanager/desktop
[03:30] <rumpe1> destrier, depends on the application, not generally
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> auto-save very 5 min.... is a handy feature :)
[03:31] <selite> Guys , How do I change the email order in Evolution to appear from newest emails to oldest?
[03:31] <groktar> i'm crazy excited about this, because now i don't need to make 5 admin accounts on 16 servers
[03:31] <destrier> Dr_Willis: it's sometimes implemented as a system feature - certainly to recover the session, information about the currently running apps would need to be known, yes
[03:32] <olimones> lighta: It works with wget but it opens with firefox and im not sure if it plays itself from my pc of from internet. I wil disconnect to make sure
[03:32] <OomElvis> rumpe1: nah, didnt work
[03:32] <destrier> rumpel: sure, it would have to be a feature enabled app by app
[03:32] <OomElvis> :1{
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> keeping track of running apps is one thing.. getting the apps back to their  'old' state.. is the harder part.
[03:32] <DasEi> cire_: I suggest you either try another time, providing the info we pulled so far, or, if not on straight budget, get a simple pci-card (and NO SB_xFI for another 50), that can be made, though still has bugs
[03:32] <destrier> DasEi: sounds interesting, so that would save just documents?
[03:32] <lighta> hm ok olimones, what was the format, as I remenber youtube was mostly flv no ?
[03:32] <selite> Holbewoner: Guys , How do I change the email order in Evolution to appear from newest emails to oldest?
[03:32] <lighta> I'd use use ffmpeg to convert it.
[03:33] <gskellig> does anybody have experience with the bumblebee hybrid graphics driver?
[03:33] <destrier> Dr_Willis: unfortunately, I can't tell you implementation details prior to 2.24 but apparently it was considered to be working
[03:33] <olimones> lighta: text/html
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> destrier:  i dont recall it ever  'working' and ive been using gnome since its came outg..
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> saving session.. yes.. revovering docs.. getting your  image editor bac to how it was.. not.
[03:34] <bazhang> olimones, apple trailers?
[03:34] <rumpe1> OomElvis, you still didn't give a error message that would point to some direction
[03:34] <destrier> Dr_Willis: reference is here http://blogs.oracle.com/mattman/entry/gnome_2_24_session_save1
[03:35] <OomElvis> rumpe1: there were no error messages after i typed in the commmands
[03:35] <OomElvis> is there a way of debugging?
[03:35] <ielezovikj> Hey guys. Can you please tell me how to make Evolution sort emails by descending date?
[03:35] <DasEi> destrier: there are few things one CAN do, though has other negative impacts, as often write little blocks to disk, disabling physical disk-cache (o o) and such
[03:35] <olimones> bazhang: Sorry, don't understand
[03:35] <bazhang> olimones, the text/html is often seen when try ing to get apple trailers, not youtube
[03:36] <olimones> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJjWcGzdhBA&feature=relmfu this what I tried
[03:36] <DasEi> destrier: mainly you kill your performance and data-organisation with that, better set limits so sys won't freeze
[03:36] <destrier> right
[03:36] <bazhang> olimones, then just use the plugin I suggested, and it converts if you wish on the fly
[03:37] <destrier> well, let's hope now that OS X has it...
[03:37] <JPSman> clear
[03:37] <JPSman> drat, sorry, terminal habit lol
[03:37] <rumpe1> OomElvis, first step would be splitting the command and don't use && between them. the && will block any further command, if any of the previous commands returned a error as return code
[03:37] <mukti> I just did a fresh install of 10.10 and I cannot install com. I opened up the terminal and tried running sudo apt-get install com, but it could not find it.
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> !info com
[03:38] <riz0n> I want to make an Ubuntu USB installer, is there a way to include x86 and x64 on the same USB flash drive?
[03:38] <olimones> yes, when I clik on the file it opens with firefox as if it were directly from youtube. I will disconnect fro internet to make sure it plays from my pc... i'll be back.
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> mukti:  and whats 'com' ?
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> riz0n:  you can set up grub2 to boot ISO files and do it that way I belive
[03:39] <mukti> Dr_Willis: I ment Vim, my phone auto corrected it
[03:39] <DasEi> riz0n: yes, but lil' tricky, you can look for grub2's support in booting live cd's and then have two different entries
[03:39] <riz0n> DasEi: My goal is to have Ubuntu installer x86 and x64, Windows Xp, Vista and 7 all on one flash drive.
[03:40] <Bl4ckbird> rofl.
[03:40] <mukti> Is there something I need to enable? It doesn't seem like I can install anything using apt...
[03:40] <DasEi> riz0n: put a howto on the net when done
[03:40] <gskellig> riz0n, please do
[03:40] <riz0n> The Vista and 7 copies I'm downloading are "all" versions and have 32-bit and 64-bit in the ISO, so I don't have to worry about them.
[03:40] <rumpe1> mukti, whats the exact command you used for apt-get?
[03:41] <mukti> sudo apt-get install vim
[03:41] <rumpe1> mukti, You perhaps need a "sudo apt-get update"
[03:41] <riz0n> and im not too concerned about including the XP x64 Edition on my drive as it is very uncommon
[03:41] <Joe0006> ubuntu is really tough to handle
[03:42] <paulo> como entrar em portugues brasil
[03:42] <DasEi> !br | paulo:
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> !info vim-full
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> !info vim
[03:42] <mukti> rumpe1: Will that just update the sources, or does it do all system updates?
[03:42] <olimones> just as I thought. It opens from internet. when I am not connected it doesn't play.
[03:42] <rumpe1> mukti, just the sources
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> mukti:  sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade, then try again
[03:43] <mukti> And all that does is update/upgrade sources?
[03:43] <Bl4ckbird> upgrade will change your running systerm
[03:43] <Bl4ckbird> system
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> updates listings.. upgrades system,....
[03:44] <mukti> So, everything that needs to be updated will be updated?
[03:44] <DasEi> mukti: apt-get update does both, re-reading sources and applying updates, same with upgrade installs newer versions of packets (if any)
[03:44] <rumpe1> mukti, update=get fresh infos, upgrade=update applications ... it's a bit confusing
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> upGRADED yes
[03:44] <mukti> Okay, I understand
[03:44] <gskellig> does anybody have experience with the bumblebee hybrid graphics driver? or graphics card switching with nvidia and intel graphics cards?
[03:44] <EKUriox> HIIIiiiiiiii
[03:44] <EKUriox> What u guys up too
[03:45] <EKUriox> figure out yr encryption problems yet ?
[03:45] <DasEi> !support
[03:45] <JPSman> so i have followed all the guides i can find about connecting to my wireless via command line and I get the "No DHCPOFFERS received." and no im not using a WM because this thing only have 256 meg o ram
[03:45] <DasEi> n8
[03:45] <bazhang> EKUriox, ubuntu support
[03:45] <mukti> It's probably going to take a while since its 10.10
[03:45] <EKUriox> Any of y'all got gnome3 working yet ?
[03:46] <|Slacker|> nope, not me
[03:46] <bazhang> EKUriox, its not supported here, and breaks things so, no
[03:46] <bazhang> !gnome3 | EKUriox
[03:46] <mukti> So will this do the same thing as the update manager?
[03:46] <EKUriox> What do you mean it "breaks " things
[03:46] <bazhang> EKUriox, experimental and unstable
[03:47] <rww> EKUriox: Sounds self-evident to me. You install the PPA. Stuff stops working. Yay breakage.
[03:47] <EKUriox> Oh... You must be reffering it keeps disables those accounts that are disabled.
[03:47] <bazhang> EKUriox, cannot be downgraded, that is the one
[03:47] <rww> EKUriox: no, I'm not
[03:47] <bazhang> EKUriox, no
[03:47] <rumpe1> mukti, "apt-get update" is really not dangerous at all
[03:47] <bazhang> EKUriox, did you have an actual support question?
[03:47] <mukti> But, will this do the same thing as the update manager?
[03:47] <EKUriox> How do you install Gnome3
[03:48] <rww> EKUriox: ubottu just highlighted you with the details
[03:48] <rumpe1> mukti, what update-manager?
[03:48] <EKUriox> Yea that doesn't work
[03:48] <EKUriox> tried it befr.
[03:48] <rww> EKUriox: Well yes, that would be what "EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE" implies.
[03:48] <mukti> rumpe1, The GUI application to update your system
[03:48] <EKUriox> gnome3 has numerous source to build it... Do you suggest using those?
[03:49] <rumpe1> mukti, they usually also use apt-get, just with eyecandy around it
[03:49] <EKUriox> Also...
[03:49] <rww> EKUriox: no
[03:49] <rumpe1> mukti, just do the update :D
[03:49] <EKUriox> have you all figured out the encyrtion errors ?
[03:49] <EKUriox> AT load out there is this constant encryption error
[03:49] <bazhang> EKUriox, what errors exactly
[03:49] <rww> EKUriox: I have no idea what you're talking about. Try being specific.
[03:50] <EKUriox> It says encryption can not mount...
[03:50] <mukti> I am doing it now, I was just curious if it did the same thing as the GUI app I was talking about (that is what I had always thought)
[03:50] <EKUriox> Ive tried reinstalling it, but no dice.
[03:51] <killerscript> Hi, I need install  fluxbox on ubuntu ..
[03:51] <EKUriox> Oh yea another thing
[03:51] <killerscript> 10.4
[03:51] <EKUriox> what is the root default password
[03:51] <rww> !root | EKUriox
[03:51] <rumpe1> EKUriox, there is none default root account
[03:52] <EKUriox> Sudo is a tool...
[03:52] <bazhang> !info fluxbox lucid | killerscript
[03:52] <EKUriox> root user is avaliable
[03:52] <EKUriox> how do you enable it..
[03:52] <rww> EKUriox: the 'root' user has a disabled account with a password hash that does not match any password. There is no root password, and the account is not able to be logged in to.
[03:52] <rww> EKUriox: That's not supported by this channel. Please don't ask for help with it.
[03:52] <EKUriox> But I need to change some major obsolete files
[03:52] <killerscript> thnx ubottu
[03:52] <rww> EKUriox: then use sudo
[03:52] <bazhang> killerscript, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[03:53] <EKUriox> Sudo can not do it...
[03:53] <bazhang> EKUriox, sure it can
[03:53] <EKUriox> No it says I need root privelages
[03:53] <bazhang> killerscript, logout and login choosing fluxbox
[03:53] <EKUriox> Is there a terminal command for it?
[03:53] <bazhang> EKUriox, use sudo
[03:53] <rww> EKUriox: What command are you running?
[03:53] <EKUriox> editing the file system.
[03:53] <killerscript> ok
[03:54] <rww> EKUriox: What command are you running?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> time to learn some bash and linux fundmentals i think..
[03:54] <EKUriox> editing the file system.
[03:54] <rww> EKUriox: That's not a command. Try again.
[03:54] <EKUriox> I need to edit the file system, but i can't as standard user
[03:54] <EKUriox> I need to use the root
[03:54] <linziyi_> hi
[03:54] <linziyi_> is there anyone ?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> how do you 'edit' a filesystem......
[03:55] <linziyi_> hi?
[03:55] <linziyi_> anyone here?
[03:55] <lighta> hi linziyi_ just ask your question, people will awser if they can
[03:56] <user119> Hi Linzi
[03:56] <linziyi_> hi
[03:56] <olimones> Hello, everyone.I just fixed my problem with youtube-dl, thanks
[03:56] <Fudge> hi how can i on command line with ssh ignore a host key verification error
[03:56] <lighta> what was it olimones, I mean the solution
[03:57] <rww> Fudge: you can't. Edit ~/.ssh/known_hosts and remove the incorrect line
[03:57] <lighta> Fudge, shouldn't be easier to update your rsa key stored ?
[03:57] <Fudge> the system im asking for is a forwarded port for ssh support so localhost chagnes
[03:57] <olimones> I went back to the last stable version of it.
[03:57] <skraps> hey what do you guys think of this one? http://pastebin.com/d6Bw6n1Y
[03:57] <Fudge> changes
[03:58] <olimones> youtube-dl -U
[03:58] <skraps> if you guys like it can you like it on facebook, im trying to rebuild my rep, my mug shoot is ranked number one on google , lolz
[03:58] <lighta> ah olimones ok easy then, perhaps send a bug report to them then ?
[03:58] <bazhang> skraps, wrong place for that
[03:58] <rww> skraps: don't advertise in here, please
[03:58] <Fudge> lighta  or to update it if a switch is there for that
[03:58] <skraps> kk
[03:59] <olimones> I have never done it. Hao can IÉ
[04:01] <olimones> I'll go to bed... until next time.
[04:01] <lighta> hmm I'm not sure I quite understand well your issue Fudge, take a look at this and tell me if it's the case http://www.ideaexcursion.com/2010/02/08/updating-ssh-known-hosts-fingerprints-warning-remote-host-identification-has-changed/
[04:02] <linziyi_> err
[04:02] <linziyi_> can
[04:02] <linziyi_> do anyone heard lighta gaikai?
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> linziyi_:  What?
[04:02] <linziyi_> beta.gaikai.com
[04:02] <linziyi_> beta.gaikai.com
[04:03] <linziyi_> is a web-browser gaming
[04:03] <rumpe1> linziyi_, whats your problem with ubuntu?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> excuse me for not wanting to go to some random web site posted in a chat room.....
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:03] <linziyi_> they have like mass effect 2, dead space 2
[04:03] <linziyi_> my computer is too bad
[04:03] <bazhang> linziyi_, is there some relation to ubuntu with that?
[04:04] <linziyi_> just want to ask someone have a better computer to try out if it is true
[04:04] <linziyi_> ok never mind
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> linziyi_:  for windows games... ask in #windows perhaps...
[04:04] <linziyi_> windows games play in linux i mean
[04:05] <Fudge> lighta  is that a capital -R
[04:05] <Fudge> or lowercase
[04:05] <lighta> hmm, I don't remenber :( Fudge wait a moment
[04:06] <Fudge> thanks sometiems its a bit tricky to tell with tts
[04:06] <Fudge> ill have to increse pitch on uppercase
[04:07] <rumpe1> Fudge, lighta man ssh-keygen -R hostname (removes all keys belonging to Hostname from known_hosts file)
[04:07] <Fudge> thats exactly what i wanted
[04:07] <Fudge> thanks guys
[04:08] <nickals> hey, just wanted to let you all know the issue with MC not showing right is COMPLETELY ubuntu's fault for not having proper termcap and terminfo. Works PERFECT in EVERY DISTRO AND EVERY CLIENT except ubuntu. Totally borked for ALL clients in ubuntu.
[04:08] <rww> nickals: file a bug report
[04:08] <Joe0006> guys what " CPUS " printing server do ?
[04:08] <Joe0006> CUPS
[04:08] <joint> ubuntu is taking over windows 8
[04:08] <Joe0006> if you help me it will
[04:08] <rww> joint: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> !cups
[04:08] <nickals> rww why in the world would ubuntu diviate from the standard termcap? that makes no sense............
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> Joe0006:  its the core of the printing system
[04:09] <Fudge> Joe0006  do you enjoy acting like a bot
[04:09] <Joe0006> Dr_Willis is it safe to disable it?
[04:09] <Joe0006> i don't print on ubuntu
[04:09] <rww> Joe0006: if you don't want to print anything, yes
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> Joe0006:  do you want to print stuff>?
[04:09] <rww> nickals: No idea, file a bug report :P
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> logic 101
[04:09] <rumpe1> nickals, because it's obsolete (man termcap -> use terminfo)
[04:10] <bob57098> trying to install django. Did a:
[04:10] <bob57098> $ sudo apt-get install python-django
[04:10] <bob57098> Reading package lists... Done
[04:10] <bob57098> Building dependency tree
[04:10] <bob57098> Reading state information... Done
[04:10] <bob57098> python-django is already the newest version.
[04:10] <FloodBot1> bob57098: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <bob57098> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3
[04:11] <bob57098> and now I can't find django-admin.py
[04:11] <bob57098> or any of the related files… obviously they're not in /usr/bin
[04:11] <Fudge> lighta  ok now is it possible to avoid on command line strict host checking?
[04:12] <lighta> from ssh Fudge ?
[04:13] <rumpe1> Fudge, NoHostAuthenticationForLocalhost is an option for ssh_config
[04:14] <derp> what terminal command would be used to start an application?
[04:14] <ldvx> 11.04 comes with unity instead of gnome?
[04:14] <bob57098> @derp, which application are you trying to start?
[04:14] <derp> I dont know how to private message on IRC, Im new
[04:14] <rww> ldvx: no, 11.04 comes with Unity, whcih is a shell for GNOME
[04:14] <lighta> yeah I guess in cli it'd be something like ssh -o NoHostAuthenticationForLocalhost user@hostname
[04:14] <Fudge> true
[04:14] <Fudge> got it all sorted now
[04:15] <Fudge> we have a cry for help app that we can support users by remotely
[04:15] <SIFTU> Fudge: reverse ssh tunnels?
[04:15] <Fudge> vinux based in ubuntu, blind distro so usually is fixing sound or text to speech
[04:16] <Fudge> yep thats right
[04:16] <SIFTU> Fudge: lol I was just working on a script for that
[04:16] <Fudge> oh wow
[04:16] <SIFTU> Fudge: this is what I have http://dl.dropbox.com/u/906920/screenshots/screenshot-20110819210329.jpeg
[04:16] <Fudge> i didnt write this but couple of friends did, i just fixed somethign in it, thats bout my expertees lol
[04:17] <SIFTU> Fudge: you just press the number and you are in the shell on the remote machine
[04:17] <ldvx> rww: So you can change the shell unity to gnome 2.x's default shell?
[04:17] <nickals> ok, sooooooooooo
[04:17] <rww> !classic | ldvx
[04:17] <nickals> how do i update/add to terminfo?????
[04:17] <Fudge> 404
[04:18] <ldvx> rww: Alright, thanks
[04:18] <rumpe1> Fudge, ssh -o "NoHostAuth....host yes" user@host   (i guess)
[04:19] <cstrahan> How I can install kdbg on Ubuntu 11.04? I'm sorta stumped.
[04:21] <nickals> ok, better question, why is there no terminfo files at all in my ubuntu?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> !find termcap
[04:22] <nickals> !find terminfo
[04:22] <nickals> none of them are terminfo
[04:22] <nickals> all stuff using it
[04:22] <nickals> and it doesnt exist
[04:22] <arp> install ncurses
[04:22] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/terminfo.5.html nickals this?
[04:22] <nickals> arp im about 85% sure ncurses is installed
[04:22] <nickals> but ill check
[04:22] <arp> ncurses-base
[04:22] <bob57098> trying to get django working. installed python-django with apt-get, and now I cannot find where it was installed. Everywhere I've looked, it says that it should be in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/, but neither site-packages nor diet-packages have it. Does anyone know where I could find django-admin.py?
[04:22] <arp> that puts terminfo files in /lib/terminfo
[04:23] <bazhang> Provided by: ncurses-bin_5.7+20101128-1_i386 bug   nickals
[04:23] <arp> and /usr/share/terminfo rather
[04:23] <nickals> arp empty dir
[04:23] <arp> dpkg -L ncurses-base
[04:24] <arp> Description: basic terminal type definitions
[04:24] <arp>  This package contains terminfo data files to support the most common types of
[04:24] <arp>  terminal, including ansi, dumb, linux, rxvt, screen, sun, vt100, vt102, vt220,
[04:24] <arp>  vt52, and xterm.
[04:24] <FloodBot1> arp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:24] <arp> sorry
[04:24] <crunchbang> bob57098: have you tried whereis?
[04:24] <nickals> arp yea, in /lib/terminfo like you said at first
[04:26] <bob57098> crunchbang: No, I thought it was the same as "which" but whereas gave my /user/bin/django-admin… thanks for the help
[04:27] <crunchbang> no probs
[04:31] <nixjr> im trying to install a package and it gave me the following error, what can i do to resolve it?   libqt4-sql : Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu4) but 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu4.3 is to be installed
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  whens the last time  you did a update and upgrade of the pacakge listing?
[04:32] <lighta> nixjr, is there a dev version of that ?
[04:32] <nixjr> Dr_Willis, just before i tried to install
[04:34] <nixjr> lighta, i cant see a dev version of libqtcore4 or libqt4-sql
[04:35] <nixjr> im still very new to linux and the whole idea of dependancies but im confused as to why it would error about my version being newer then whats required, surely onyl older versions should error
[04:36] <rww> nixjr: the package specified that it wants that exact version (hence the =)
[04:36] <nixjr> rww, can i downgrade without breaking other things?
[04:36] <rww> usually dependencies will say > or >= or whatever instead, because it usually isn't an issue, but apparently in this case the maintainer went with = for some reason
[04:37] <rww> nixjr: downgrade what from what version to what version?
[04:37] <nixjr> i already have 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu4.3 instaled, i want to go down to 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu4
[04:37] <rww> wait a minute, 4.7... are you using one of the kubuntu PPAs, or oneiric?
[04:38] <DeadlyFugu> I followed the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742343 But...
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> instructions to do what DeadlyFugu?
[04:39] <DeadlyFugu> ... Well, my 'wallpaper' isn't there, its just blackness showing what what there. It isn't being updated
[04:39] <DeadlyFugu> And I still have Unity
[04:39] <DeadlyFugu> Those instructions on how to get Gnome 3
[04:39] <bazhang> !gnome3 | DeadlyFugu
[04:39] <rww> DeadlyFugu: the GNOME 3 PPA isn't supported in this channel.
[04:39] <nixjr> rww, i ahve installed some ppa in the past, im just check now how to find a list of which ones
[04:40] <rww> nixjr: probably kubuntu-backports, I'd guess. If so, #kubuntu or #kubuntu-devel would be better able to help with packaging problems in it.
[04:40] <DeadlyFugu> Ah, I'm guessing there's a channel like #gnome that would help?
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> good thing when the next release comes out.. getting gnome-shell will be trivial :)
[04:42] <rww> Dr_Willis: yeah, I was just remarking on that earlier elsewhere. I'm going to be happy to tell people "upgrade" instead of "use this PPA that eats your cat"
[04:42] <foxhoundz> is there a way to change backlight brightness via terminal
[04:43] <tntc> Is it just me, or did google suddenly make everything they own ubuntu colors?
[04:43] <rww> tntc: They're doing a design refresh, the similarity is apparently coincidental (and this belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[04:47] <chewedon> Hi guys
[04:47] <chewedon> I need to run a program on my external usb SAMSUNG hard drive.
[04:47] <bullgard4_> foxhoundz: This is hardware-dependent.
[04:47] <chewedon> I got a feeling Ubuntu Live CD mounted the hard drive with no executable permission.
[04:47] <nixjr> rww, heres whats in my sources.list file, i did and search and kubuntu isnt there anywhere http://pastebin.com/ubRBBCi2
[04:48] <chewedon> When I try to sudo chmod a+rwx myprogram it said it changed the permission but when I did a ls -l on my program file again, the permission didn't change.
[04:48] <foxhoundz> bullgard4 well, is there a package that would facilitate such a thing?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  what kind of filesystem is the file on?
[04:48] <foxhoundz> I'm sshing into xubuntu and it would be nice to control the display brightness
[04:48] <rww> nixjr: it'd be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[04:48] <chewedon> Dr_Willis: how do I check ? I tried fdisk but it didn't show up...
[04:48] <bullgard4_> chewedon: You better state what Ubuntu Live CD release you are referring to.
[04:48] <gskellig> does anybody have experience with the bumblebee hybrid graphics driver? or graphics card switching with nvidia and intel graphics cards?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  sudo fdisk -l or mount....
[04:49] <chewedon> bullgard4_: Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  if its a ntfs or vfat. you DONT chown./chmod files on those FS's
[04:49] <chewedon> :P
[04:49] <chewedon> That might explain why it's not changing
[04:49] <bullgard4_> foxhoundz: Yes. For example for my 'Thinkpad it is contained in the thinkpad acpi driver package.
[04:50] <chewedon> ah way there we go, Disk /dev/sdb 1000.2 GB
[04:50] <chewedon> HPFS/NTFS
[04:50] <chewedon> /dev/sdb1   *           1      121601   976760000+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:51] <foxhoundz> I see
[04:51] <foxhoundz> I was hoping something like xbacklight would suffice
[04:52] <chewedon> bullgard4_: it's version 11.04 Live CD I think...? well it says "Install Ubuntu 11.04" on my desktop icon
[04:52] <foxhoundz> well..how about just turning off the monitor?
[04:52] <chewedon> Dr_Willis: how would I go about running executables files on these NTFS external hard drives ? Do I still need to mount it as executable ?
[04:52] <chewedon> I remember there was a shell command to do so...
[04:54] <bullgard4_> chewedon: Permissions are a feature of files and not of drives. So please tell me what particular file you can read but not write to.
[04:56] <chewedon> bullgard4_: OK. I have deleted some work files. The other  night using rm -rf. I downloaded testdisk and unzipped it to my SAMSUNG external hard drive as recommended by my technical director so that when I run a program called photorec which will attempt to recover deleted files, it will recover the file to the disk rather than in RAM. My laptop's hard drive is 300 GB big, so there will not be enough RAM to hold all the recovered files,
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  windiows .exe's you mean>
[04:59] <chewedon> no
[04:59] <chewedon> it's a linux binary executable
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  You are keeping linux binaries on ntfs? thats weird. :)
[05:00] <chewedon> (machines executes on binary values, isn't that why Microsoft called it executables?)
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  you CAN mount ntfs/vrfat where EVERY file/dir is executable.
[05:00] <chewedon> Linux calls it .bin :P
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> linux dosent callit .bin :)
[05:00] <linuxuz3r__> been thinking if i should install redhat?
[05:00] <linuxuz3r__> should i?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> linuxuz3r__:  we dont care. :)
[05:00] <chewedon> well whatever
[05:01] <bullgard4_> linuxuz3r__: No.
[05:01] <linuxuz3r__> why
[05:01] <niche> Dr_Willis, that's rude
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  you can mount ntfs or cfat with a differnt umask/fmask/dmask (i forget which) that can set the permissions differntly
[05:01] <linuxuz3r__> bullgard4
[05:01] <chewedon> I found this command on Google: mount          -t vfat -o user,rw,exec,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/dosdrive
[05:01] <bullgard4_> linuxuz3r__: Do not troll.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  yep  You can mount it by hand with differnt mask options for differnt  modes.
[05:02] <linuxuz3r__> im not trolling
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  i find it more annoying to have EVERY file on the vfat/ntfs be flagged as executable.
[05:02] <chewedon> I suppose in my case I could change it to: mount -t ntfs -o user,rw,exec /dev/sdb1 /media/SAMSUNG
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> linuxuz3r__:  its not really a ubuntu support question.
[05:02] <chewedon> Dr_Willis: this is just to recover some files, I'm not using it on a daily basis :)
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  i dont think th eexec flag will work for ntfs or ntfs-3g
[05:02] <chewedon> ok...
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  check the ntfs-3g faq/docs for examples.
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> if you want to write to the disk. you will want to use ntfs-3g
[05:03] <chewedon> ok
[05:03] <chewedon> thanks for the heads up
[05:08] <xgt001> hello! i am running natty x64 ..i have 3gb ram, but system monitor shows only 2.7 gb!!! why so???
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> !ram
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> or it could be how the hw is reserveing some
[05:10] <chewedon> Dr_Willis, bullgard4_ thank you so much for the help guys. Files are being recovered now :)
[05:11] <chewedon> Fingers crossed that it still can recover the files.
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> is the hd failing or somthing weird chewedon?
[05:11] <chewedon> Dr_Willis: you mean why am I trying to recover the files ?
[05:11] <xgt001> i have reserved 6 gb of swap as well
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> yes chewedon.. you have linux binaries on a ntfs you are somehow revoering?
[05:13] <n2i> ha
[05:13] <chewedon> Dr_Willis: HD isn't failing. The other night, I was working on an iPad application on my Mac OS X Lion. It was late and I wasn't thinking straight. I was trying to backup some files. I did a cp * ~/project/ and it said xcode and such is a directory so I went, screw it, I'll delete everything in the destination location and recopy all the files from my current directory.
[05:14] <n2i> chet roi
[05:15] <chewedon> My Xcode IDE started saying the files have disappeared and that's when the reality of my actions had sunk in.
[05:16] <chewedon> My technical director and me yanked out the hard drive from my laptop and cloned it. Now I'm using the software he recommended to try and recover the deleted files. If it doesn't work, I'll have to remake the entire project from scratch again.
[05:18] <chewedon> Say, how is Ubuntu Natty ?
[05:18] <chewedon> It looks attractive.
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> this is when automated backups to a cloud server come in handy..
[05:18] <Kanhiya> Hello Everybody
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Its nattoriffic,
[05:18] <Kanhiya> I want to customize Ubuntu cd
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> !remaster
[05:18] <chewedon> Dr_Willis: that is true, I should have used svn or at leasted made a copy of my work every night but I was on a mad rush to get the project done
[05:19] <Kanhiya> What do i want is that i want to appear my university logo durung grub, splash, login
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> Kanhiya:  the askubuntu.com site had a good guide on it also.
[05:19] <chewedon> No excuses :P
[05:19] <chewedon> My fault.
[05:19] <Kanhiya> Also packages that i want should also be there on cd
[05:19] <chewedon> Dr_Willis: does Ubuntu Natty have any lag issues or show stoppers ?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> chewedon:  none for me.
[05:19] <chewedon> :)
[05:20] <chewedon> Dr_Willis: Gnome / KDE ?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> they both work fine,.
[05:24] <Macetouch> does anyone know somewhere I could get a good list of code for the terminal im a noob but I want to learn
[05:24] <rww> !terminal
[05:25] <Random833> Macetouch: what do you mean by code for the terminal?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis>  leet terminal skillz
[05:25] <Macetouch> like the sudo and what not
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> dozens of bash tutioruals out there
[05:26] <Macetouch> dr_willis: is there any you would recommend
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> delicious.com and check the tags for bash and tutorial :)
[05:28] <Macetouch> thanks =)
[05:28] <Guest36599> hola
[05:29] <rickaaaaayyyyy> i need help
[05:29] <Guest36599> otro naufrago aqui
[05:30] <groktar> almost got my samba PDC going
[05:30] <groktar> just have to figure out why it keeps loading temporary profiles
[05:36] <Zaitam> quien vive?
[05:36] <rww> !es
[05:38] <cmrodican> hi all.  i just purchased an hp g600 notebook and it is 64-bit and i would like to install 32-bit ubuntu...  is there any way i can run into a prob for that?
[05:38] <cmrodican> thanks in advanc
[05:38] <rww> cmrodican: nope, it'll work fine
[05:39] <lion42> cmrodican, is there any reason why you want to use 32 bit ubuntu?
[05:39] <n2i> cmrodican: why not Ubuntu 64bit?
[05:39] <cmrodican> i thought that more programs were compatible with the 32 and it was more stable
[05:39] <cmrodican> is this no longer the case?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> hasent bveen the case for some time cmrodican
[05:40] <mnemonic_> guys is there an issue while connecting to freenode via TOR and sasl?
[05:40] <rww> mnemonic_: shouldn't be. Ask #freenode if you need help.
[05:40] <cmrodican> ive never had a 64bit pc lol
[05:40] <IdleOne> mnemonic_: #freenode can help with that
[05:40] <cmrodican> thank you guys
[05:40] <rww> cmrodican: I use both 32-bit and 64-bit. I notice no problems with either. But nevertheless, 32-bit will work on a 64-bit processor if you want it to :)
[05:41] <cmrodican> rww:  why do you use the 32 bit?  are there pros and cons to using them?
[05:41] <rww> cmrodican: I have one 32-bit and one 64-bit machine
[05:41] <mahrud> Hi guys, do you know who is running ubuntu infrastructure?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> moar is beterer ! L(
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:41] <groktar> woot got the permissions sorted
[05:41] <rww> mahrud: which particular part of it?
[05:41] <mahrud> I mean, who are admins?
[05:41] <`blackmk4> å∂/window 4
[05:42] <psycho_oreos> there are specific programs that can only run in 32bit, the same goes with some modules/drivers
[05:42] <darkgerm> if my computer support 64-bit, should i install 32-bit one or 64-bit one??
[05:42] <IdleOne> mahrud: admins of?
[05:42] <mahrud> rww: hmm, nothing special, for example download servers
[05:42] <mahrud> admins of the mail servers
[05:42] <Macetouch> i would sudjest 64-bit. thats just me
[05:42] <mahrud> IdleOne: admins of the mail servers
[05:43] <rww> mahrud: Canonical runs some of the download servers, the rest are mirrored by organizations that volunteer to host one. Mailservers for @ubuntu.com and @lists.ubuntu.com are maintained by Canonical.
[05:43] <rww> mahrud: (and lists.ubuntu.com lists also have their own admins and mods, who are generally Ubuntu community members)
[05:43] <Zaitam> es verdad
[05:43] <rww> Zaitam: English here, please
[05:44] <rww> mahrud: if you have some particular problem or need, best to just be specific and ask it and we can redirect you appropriately :)
[05:44] <Zaitam> why?
[05:44] <rww> Zaitam: because this is the English-language Ubuntu technical support channel
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> becasue i only speak english....
[05:44] <darkgerm> what 64-bit good at? faster?
[05:44] <rww> darkgerm: not noticibly, no
[05:44] <mahrud> rww: thanks, and who decides on, for example, which packages should be installed by default?
[05:44] <cmrodican> on an unrelated note, i have several 2003 series optiplexe workstations that i got for free when my high school, and last night i purchased a belkin mini bluetooth dongle...  in ubuntu i began configuring it when suddenly the light on the  dongle lit up and my computer crashed... now that whole workstation is unusable because if i even plug it in the power just goes on and off repeatedly...
[05:44] <cmrodican> ...untill several seconds after unpluggiong it
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> darkgerm:  dpends on the task.. for movie reencideing i notice a few % gain
[05:45] <rww> mahrud: Ubuntu's developers and teams. Most of the planning for that happens at the every-six-month Ubuntu Developer Summits.
[05:45] <rww> !uds
[05:45] <cmrodican> is this an ubuntu related bug or hardware, or the bt dongle itself?
[05:45] <rww> except not that one because it happened already :)
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> cmrodican:  sounds like hw blew up :)
[05:46] <mahrud> rww: would you please give me a link? I want to know how can someone join them.
[05:46] <rww> !uds =~ s/May 9th - 13th in Budapest, Hungary/31 October and 4 November in Orlando, Florida/
[05:46] <cmrodican> why would a bluetooth dongle do that?
[05:46] <rww> mahrud: join what? the Ubuntu developer team, or UDS?
[05:47] <cmrodican> bc of power related issues?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> may not been related to that bt. at all.. just somtning going out.. and it did
[05:47] <mahrud> rww: UDS
[05:47] <rww> mahrud: see http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[05:48] <dcraserr> mm
[05:48] <dcraserr> 하이요
[05:48] <dcraserr> 이거 되는건가?
[05:48] <IdleOne> !ko
[05:49] <cmrodican> anyways, does that mean that i shouldnt rish using the belkin mini bt dongle on any other machines?
[05:49] <cmrodican> i was thinking i would just return iit in the morning
[05:49] <dcraserr> 리눅스 어떻게 사용하는거에요?
[05:49] <darkgerm> !ko
[05:49] <cmrodican> i saw no mention of this problem in any forums
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> it coule be shorted i guess cmrodican but id find that unlikely -
[05:50] <dcraserr> 리눅스좀 알고싶어요
[05:50] <rww> dcraserr: English here, please.
[05:51] <mahrud> rww: thanks
[05:51] <dcraserr> i can speak english a little
[05:52] <darkgerm> dcraserr: i can't see what you type.. i just see some unicode code
[05:54] <dcraserr> ubuntu??
[05:54] <dcraserr> 10.04??
[05:55] <dcraserr> 한쿡 사람 없나요
[05:55] <rww> dcraserr: /join #ubuntu-ko to speak in Korean, please.
[05:56] <cmrodican> if the your eastern text fiiles are installed, you would see that he is speaking in i believe chinese characters?
[05:56] <cmrodican> i have just one ot question
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> looks like little stick men here. :) and houses..
[05:57] <rww> cmrodican: incorrect, they're speaking Korean
[05:57] <Macetouch> Dr_willis is completely right
[05:57] <darkgerm> rww: how do you know that is Korean?
[05:57] <hugenumber> you can see it
[05:57] <rww> darkgerm: because I'm magical. also, I know what Korean looks like. Also, Google Translate.
[05:58] <cmrodican> but i was under the impression that the alphabet was chinese characters...  like how english speakers use the latin alphabet and russians have their thing and how we use the hindu-arabic numeration system for numbers
[05:58] <Avonir_> Koreans use a different character set.
[05:59] <rww> cmrodican: nope
[05:59] <cmrodican> are there different characters in the japanese, korean and chinese, ets...  alphabets?
[05:59] <cmrodican> oooo
[05:59] <cmrodican> thanks rww
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> several i belive.. :)
[05:59] <[THC]AcidRain> would anyone mind helping me with a sql in pm real quick? i know this isnt the place. but #sql is dead and im stuck
[06:00] <darkgerm> some of characters are same
[06:00] <cmrodican> i do know that several countries were basically forced to switch to roman characters in their alphabet and himdu-arabic numeration both during the age of mass imperialism and some by choice due to globalization
[06:01]  * rww redirects cmrodican to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:01] <cmrodican> can anyone recoment a good channel to discuss this type of stuff?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis>  #boaring-chat   ? :)
[06:02] <cmrodican> i am a little new to irc and generally only use it to ask and try to answer ppls tech-related questions
[06:02] <lion42> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> heh heh..
[06:02] <cmrodican> lol
[06:02] <cmrodican> i think you meant boring
[06:02] <phrostbite> How do I delete a partition that was made while testing out a different os?
[06:03] <thyagu> join #rails
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> phrostbite:  fdisk, gparted. parted, other partionng tools..
[06:03] <phrostbite> How do I know which partition is the one I need to delete?
[06:04] <phrostbite> I have gparted and i cannot tell which is which
[06:04] <krishnan> i tried booting from ubuntu server 10.04 from USB drive on my netbook. It stands at the boot prompt. what to do?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> phrostbite:  you made them :) dont rember? Mount them all  and look at the contents
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> krishnan:  how did you install tot he usb?
[06:04] <MK``> Darkgerm: Korean is the only language that uses that script. It is fairly distinct.
[06:05] <MK``> They used to use Chinese characters, but they have fallen out of use
[06:05] <krishnan> Dr_Willis: did not understand ur question
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> krishnan: how did you install the os to  he usb?
[06:05] <thalleem> Hello Room
[06:06] <cmrodican> what network has the more political science related chanels in it?  i promise this is my last ot question...  i have to complete an android tutorial for androicwiki by tonite
[06:06] <Fudge> anyone suggest a basic irc relay bot
[06:06] <krishnan> i tried booting from ubuntu server 10.04 from USB drive on my netbook. It stands at the boot prompt. what to do?
[06:06] <thalleem> it took me awhile to completely turn to Ubuntu
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Fudge:  depends on your needs I imagine theres eggdrop bots that5 can do most anything you need
[06:07] <thalleem> Now I am looking to join and run with this over my other systems
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> krishnan:  How did you install ubuntu server to thge  usb? You  did notuse a tool like Unetbootin or similer to put the server iso on a pendrive did you?
[06:08] <thalleem> anyone else new here I can talk to?  trying to get a feel for all of this
[06:08] <krishnan> Dr_Willis: I used the tool that is given in the ubuntu desktop OS. The tool and the step tht is mentioned in the ubuntu.com site.
[06:08] <Fudge> Dr_Willis  yeah eggy i san option
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> krishnan:  so you did not boot a cd/usb and did a normal install - you used one of the  'live disk' creator tools? I belive the server iso does not work with those. Only the livd-desktop cd  does
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> at least tere used to be issues with the severiso  getting put on a usb.
[06:10] <krishnan> Dr_Willis: I followed ths link. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/download . The same iso file works fine in a virtual box.
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> krishnan:  have vbox boot the pendrive as a test
[06:11] <krishnan> Dr_Willis: of will do tht.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> I just recall sevral people inhere in the past with  issues putting the server iso as a bootable pendrive.
[06:13] <magn3ts> Every single video I play in VLC is unsynced a/v
[06:13] <magn3ts> how is that possible?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> you twiddled with settings  trying to fix one and now its using the setting for all of them that were correct.. and thus now wrong ?  (guessing)
[06:14] <lion42> magn3ts, i've been having that problem lately. I stopped using VLC for video.
[06:14] <magn3ts> lion42, it's very hard for me to resync it. Getting the +/- is hard enough for the audio delay.
[06:14] <magn3ts> Plus, I looove VLC.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> I havent notivced vlc with issues here.. but i watch stuff thats subtitled most of the time. :)
[06:15] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, I blew away .config/vlc just to make sure.
[06:15] <lion42> I loved VLC, too, but the av sync as you said is a pain in the behind.
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> check the vlc faq. they may have some info. or their forums.
[06:15] <lion42> It was easier just to use something else, lol
[06:15] <cmrodican> if i download ubuntu server, then what do i need to put on the other computers in my network to make them ubuntu workstations running off of that server?
[06:15] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, This seems to be a problem and ppl point fingers at PulseAudio and Alsa, but I don't really understand all of the quirks.
[06:16] <magn3ts> I'm going to swap back to Mplayer for a bit I guess.
[06:16] <Macetouch> Is there any way to make playlists of movies on VLC because thats the only down fall I see
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> You can set vlc to not use pulse audio....
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> vlc has playlist feature....
[06:16] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, yeah, I've been trying that too. I've been playing with this for a bit.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> vlc has bajillions of features...   :)
[06:16] <Macetouch> Well thats great to know. I shall look into finding it lol
[06:17] <magn3ts> I think they're right, every time, -600ms is basically the sweet spot for getting it resynced. :/
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> menus... show playlust or somthing like that..
[06:17] <magn3ts> Macetouch, there's a button in the default interface.
[06:17] <magn3ts> Macetouch, to the right of the "full screen" button.
[06:17] <krishnan> Dr_Willis: the same problem occurs in Vbox too. it comes to the boot prompt and stops thr
[06:17] <Macetouch> Ok thank you. I also feel dumb now
[06:17] <magn3ts> Macetouch, meh, it happens to the best of us, happy to lend a tip
[06:17] <magn3ts> (just the tip though)
[06:18] <HeGuru> magn3ts: you can fix default audio delay in vlc
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> krishnan:  sounds like a badly made usb. You could try that tools at pendrivelinux that make a grub2 setup that boots an ISO file.. it might work better
[06:18] <magn3ts> HeGuru, link/tips?
[06:18] <krishnan> Dr_Willis: will try tht & come back.
[06:18] <HeGuru> magn3ts: tools -> preferences -> all -> audio -> filters -> delay
[06:19] <cmrodican> and one other question:  i am very accustomed to gnome and love lucid right now..  what advantages would i have for switching to 11.04?
[06:19] <Macetouch> NONE!!!! 11.04 SUCKS!!!
[06:19] <gskellig> does anybody have experience with the bumblebee hybrid graphics driver? or graphics card switching with nvidia and intel graphics cards?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Macetouch:  Hmm?
[06:20] <Desyncify> ello
[06:20] <chewedon> Ubuntu feels like the multimedia / desktop OS of Linux
[06:20] <chewedon> For your everyday user / average joe
[06:20] <Macetouch> ok well just in my opion. i dont like the set up of it. it can probably be changed but thats just me
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> install boxee on ubuntu, and you got a instant media-box pratically :)
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Macetouch:  err... we dont know  what you are ranting about exactly....
[06:21] <chewedon> Wasn't there a special version of Ubuntu just for Multimedia development?
[06:21] <magn3ts> HeGuru, thanks, I'll play around with that.
[06:21] <magn3ts> HeGuru, I kinda wish it would go back to just working straight up though :/
[06:21] <chewedon> I remember it from a few years back.
[06:21] <magn3ts> Medibuntu?
[06:22] <chewedon> Kubuntu ?
[06:22] <Desyncify> finally got ubuntu working lag free on my laptop, thank god
[06:22] <cmrodican> i dont know why they have abandoned gnome it is my favoritwe operating system...   im sure they wont get rid of kubuntu, whhick sucks
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> medibuntu is a repo/site of pacakges
[06:22] <n2i> I cannot setfont Vietnamese-Fixed16 for tty, how to do it?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> cmrodican:  who has abandoned gnome?
[06:22] <cmrodican> the new ubuntu distro
[06:22] <magn3ts> They're replacing more and more and more of it in +1...
[06:22] <magn3ts> Oh wait, that's probably just gnome3 stuff :/
[06:22] <magn3ts> oh well
[06:23] <HeGuru> magn3ts: If you've already reset vlc config then its probably lower level (pulseaudio etc) issue
[06:23] <n2i> In fact, I have successful set font for tty, but after restart it is restored to defaut :(
[06:23] <magn3ts> HeGuru, yeah, I'm sure you're right in that it's not a VLC flaw.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> cmrodican:  the next ubuntu release - has not abandoned gnome..
[06:23] <lion42> magn3ts, liiike I said, I had the exact same issue with vlc
 I would do privet msgs but i dont know how (unless this is it) and just someone was wondering if they should switch so yeah. Ill stop
[06:23] <cmrodican> so unity is along side it?
[06:23] <HeGuru> chewedon: Ubuntu Studio
[06:23] <lion42> cannot replicate on any other media player I use
[06:23] <n2i> I'm using 11.04
[06:23] <lion42> problem solved.
[06:23] <chewedon> HeGuru: I think that's the one :)
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> gnome2 is a dead project now. gnome-3 is the next thing. and it has a selexctable shell.  you an use gnome-shell or unity
[06:24] <magn3ts> cmrodican, gnome is more than just the old top/bottom panels.
[06:24] <lion42> GNOME2 LIVES ON FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS.
[06:24] <lion42> (also, in my computer)
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> both loved and hated. :)
[06:24] <n2i> Dr_Willis: gnome2 is dead? so I must using gnome3 if I want using gnome on my machine?
[06:24]  * magn3ts doesn't want to launch into another rant about both gnome2 and 3. :/
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> n2i:  gnome devs have basically moved to gnome-3....
[06:25] <MrSalt> Just got done reinstalling 11.04.  Had upgraded to 10.10Alpha, but _way_ too unstable for me, and I don't have the time to properly debug it.  Stable is good.
[06:25] <magn3ts> Also, Dr_Willis let me know when gnome-shell actually starts working ;)
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> gnome-shell works fine for me.. on my 11.10 test box. magn3ts
[06:25] <lion42> magn3ts, that'd be never. :P
[06:25] <foxhoundz> Dr_Willis: there there. Someone will fork Gnome 2
[06:25] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, :/ all I get is "gnome session failed to load"
[06:26] <n2i> What about Unity? Should I using Unity of Gnome3?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  i belive it was a bug in the alpha for a week.. then got fixed..
[06:26] <magn3ts> (for weeks, too)
[06:26] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, heh, I literally tried again today and was saddened.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> both are working find here for me.
[06:26] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, Unless you're suggesting I need a clean install ?
[06:26] <magn3ts> I
[06:26] <magn3ts> ve just been distupgrading (sorry for the linebreak)
[06:27] <lion42> n2i, using gnome3 on 11.04 is difficult to do and difficult to reverse. You're probably better off using unity or gnome-fallback.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  no idea.   its alpha3 level..   been very stable for me. but time tomove it to #ubuntu+1
[06:27] <magn3ts> n2i, if you like unity, sure I guess.
[06:27] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, ah, yes, sorry about that. I'll play around with it and wait for beta or such.
[06:28] <magn3ts> gnome3 on ubuntu-current is really not supported and I've never had it work properly, just b0rk my system repeatedly. Make a backup, use a snapshot, etc.
[06:28] <n2i> lion42: Oh, thanks! And what about 11.10?
[06:28] <magn3ts> gtk/gnome3 is the base DE in 11.10 n2deep
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> n2i:  Its at alpha3 status right now
[06:28] <lion42> n2i, don't use 11.10 unless you have a reason to (aka, are a developer).
[06:28] <n2i> magn3ts: nope :) I have removed some unity component before
[06:29] <cmrodican> hey i gotta go..  but as always its been a pleasure being here.  i almost always get the info i cant find on the forums and are starting to grow accustommed to you guys...  android users:  i will be posting a series of new articles and tutorials on androidwiki.com over the next weeks and any help would be much appreciated there.  Creating pages, or editing them to update info or even help...
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> or watn to have fun
[06:29] <cmrodican> ...make some of them more wiki format complient and wikipedia-like in appearence...  so if anybody is lookimng for somkething to contrib to give it a thought
[06:29] <cmrodican> bye all
[06:29] <cmrodican> thanks for the good talk
[06:29] <rww> Dr_Willis: for Dwarf Fortress definition of "fun"
[06:29] <magn3ts> lol, that's my kind of fun. For "normal" people, not so much
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> compared the the alpha/beta of 11.04   this 11.10 has been  solid  :)
[06:30] <magn3ts> haha isn't that the truth
[06:30] <magn3ts> I had a nightmarish time of 11.04 breaking constantly, especially with the VB extensions :S
[06:30]  * Dr_Willis recalls the  recursuve never ending 'file system needs fscked.....'  (but i just fscked it!) bug...
[06:31] <rww> aww, Dr_Willis isn't in #ubuntu+1 :(
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> fsck was setting the date 24 hrs ahead.. so it was always invalid. :)
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> rww:  not even on a Linux box right now either. :) been redoing my room. just got 1 pc on.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Not on my phone either!
[06:31] <arhad> hello to all!
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> wife took my Testing box's monitor,. :)
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> well its time for me to get to bed..  take care.
[06:33] <n2i> I will switch back to 10.04 :(
[06:34] <lion42> 11.04 with lxde hasn't been bad to me.
[06:34] <arhad> Tell me please, should I install Ubuntu 11.04 if I have 10.10 one?
[06:34] <lion42> A little different, but... it works.
[06:34] <n2i> arhad: No! I think so :P
[06:35] <arhad> To <n2i>: Thanks for advice!
[06:35] <krishnan> Dr_Willis: While I was using the USB Installer suggested by you I got a message stating tht a error has occured while installaing syslinux and hence the device will not be bootable.
[06:36] <Gredeu> can you use a 3.0x kernel with ubuntu without breaking any system services ?
[06:36] <Gredeu> i guess that would be mainline.
[06:36] <johngilbrough> I've got ufw running on my server which is blocking someone from Russia that's trying to get in.  Is there anyway I can view what that person is transmitting?
[06:37] <Gredeu> not if its blocked
[06:38] <krishnan> While I was using the USB Installer I got a message stating tht a error has occured while installaing syslinux and hence the device will not be bootable.
[06:38] <Macetouch> does anyone know if Remote desktop viewer works with windowsÉ
[06:38] <Macetouch> ?*
[06:38] <arhad> I tried - no
[06:39] <Gredeu> remote desktop viewer works great though the best VNC client i've used on a gigabit lan was a commerical one.  can't place the name.
[06:39] <Gredeu> it was a mac though.  so -- it could have been entirely at fault.
[06:39] <rww> Gredeu: probably, but Linux 3.0 isn't supported on current versions of Ubuntu, so if you have problems you're on your own
[06:39] <Gredeu> thanks rww
[06:39] <ole_oz6oh> someone here programming with python ?
[06:39] <arhad> But standart Ubuntu remote desctop cliend doesnd support Windows, unfortunally
[06:40] <Gredeu> anyone out there used a unsupported mainline kernel 3.x without breaking any services ?
[06:40] <Macetouch> ugg... my friend is having trobles and i was attempting to help because its hard to explain to a .... noob
[06:40] <rww> ole_oz6oh: if you have a python question, try #python. if you have a question about python on Ubuntu, please ask the actual question
[06:40] <johngilbrough> ole_oz6oh, Yep
[06:41] <Night-hacks> how can i determine if my Ram is DDR2 or DDR3 by commands ?
[06:41] <Gredeu> is usb 3.0 support under the .11 kernel very functional ?
[06:41] <Macetouch> rww was that at me? lol
[06:41] <krishnan> While I was using the USB Installer I got a message stating tht a error has occured while installaing syslinux and hence the device will not be bootable.
[06:41] <ole_oz6oh> rww,  thanks but there i only get angry people i do'nt understand why
[06:42] <rww> Macetouch: if it was, your name would be prepended to it ;)
[06:42] <rww> ole_oz6oh: That's not really something we can help with. It's the help channel for Python.
[06:42] <Gredeu> people make mistakes.  like Cheney.
[06:42] <krishnan> While I was using the USB Installer I got a message stating tht a error has occured while installaing syslinux and hence the device will not be bootable.
[06:42] <ole_oz6oh> johngilbrough,  you say jep
[06:42] <zen_monkey> nights, am having trouble trying to check some gpg
[06:43] <johngilbrough> ole_oz6oh, Let's hop over to #python, ok?
[06:43] <zen_monkey> gpg file.asc throws can't open pubring.gpg
[06:43] <ole_oz6oh> rww,  if man ask maybe a good answer
[06:43] <Gredeu> can i optimize this crontab entry to be even better ?  @hourly rsync -avz --delete --force --ignore-errors /home/ /media/backup/
[06:43] <zen_monkey> can someone lend a hand?
[06:44] <rww> ole_oz6oh: What?
[06:44] <Gredeu> for backup of /home should my crontab be run as user or root ?
[06:45] <MrSalt> Gredeu: Call rsnapshot instead?  :)
[06:45] <arhad> Gredeu: no
[06:45] <Gredeu> rsnapshot no can do.  can't teach an old dog new tricks.
[06:45] <ole_oz6oh> rww,  i have tried on the python channel but i get only angry people
[06:45] <Gredeu> arhad, no to what ?
[06:46] <MrSalt> Gredeu: rsnapshot uses rsync and hard links, if that's what you're trying to do.
[06:46] <ole_oz6oh> rww, all said my question is not good
[06:46] <arhad> Gredeu: i meant that you can can crontab without root privilegies for copying /home
[06:46] <Gredeu> MrSalt, i don't suppose it would be within the realm of possiblity for you to translate my previous rsync contrab entry into a one hitter ?
[06:46] <Gredeu> thank you arhad
[06:47] <arhad> Greder: sorry for mistakes in my phrases, I type so fast in the first time.
[06:47] <MrSalt> Gredeu: It looks fine the way it is.
[06:48] <Gredeu> arhad, your ok you made no mistake
[06:48] <Macetouch> dumb question but what is this channel for? is it like a general channel?
[06:48] <Gredeu> MrSalt, so just use rsync and not rsnapshot ?
[06:48] <arhad> Gredeu: thank you :)
[06:48] <rww> Macetouch: #ubuntu is the English-language technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux
[06:49] <MrSalt> Gredeu: If you like rsync, you're command looks fine.  I used rsnapshot for a while, and it adds a couple extra features built for a rync'ing backup.  Check it out.
[06:49] <Gredeu> can anyone vouch usb 3.0 support to be just fine under natty ?
[06:50] <MrSalt> Macetouch: #ubuntu-dumb-question was cancelled last week, so you've got to ask them here.  :)
[06:51] <Macetouch> also how do I pm so I dont po people
[06:51] <a12> Hi, if I want to play youtube videos totem says: "The playlist 'anyplayist' could not be parsed. It might be damaged." I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and GStreamer-plugins-bad/ugly plus depencies, but the error is still there. Help me, please. Thank you very much.
[06:52] <a12> I am using Ubuntu 11.04
[06:52] <Gredeu> isn't hardware support supposed to be best in ubuntu vs any other distro ?
[06:54] <MrSalt> Macetouch: /msg <nick> <message> usually works if you want to ask privately
[06:56] <MrSalt> Gredeu: My new motherboard I just bought last week works fine under Natty.  Not sure I have any USB 3.0 items attached though.
[06:57] <crunchbang> Gredeu: ^^ I also have a motherboard with USB 3.0, no issues. I run a variant of ubuntu.
[06:58] <iceroot_> Gredeu: maybe but that makes ubuntu not the best system if you want a 100% free system (free as in free speech)
[06:58] <gskellig> does anybody have experience with the bumblebee hybrid graphics driver? or graphics card switching with nvidia and intel graphics cards?
[06:58] <maestrojed> I need some help with basic Linux application installation knowledge. It seems executable programs go in /usr/local/bin or /user/local/sbin. Whats the difference?
[06:59] <a12> I need to repair that,
[06:59] <a12> .
[06:59] <MrSalt> gskellig: Bumblebee?  ::Looking on Google:: Hmm, interesting, but no idea.  :)
[06:59] <a12> I need to repair that.
[07:00] <iceroot_> maestrojed: sbin = (s)ystem(bin)arys, bin = (bin)arys
[07:00] <MK``> bin is for command binaries, sbin is for system binaries (like daemons)
[07:00] <gskellig> MrSalt, yeah. I have a dual graphics card laptop and I would REALLY like a way to switch between the graphics cards without rebooting and typing a crapload into the terminal
[07:00] <iceroot_> maestrojed: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[07:00] <gskellig> and/or without degrading the performance of my SSD (long story, one way to switch graphics cards is to turn sata mode to "compatible mode"
[07:00] <gskellig> aka "suck mode"
[07:00] <a12> suck mode, old web browsers suck.
[07:01] <MrSalt> gskellig: Fighting with video drivers in Linux is the one thing that has really frustrated me over the years.  Now, I get a card and keep it for a long time so I don't have to mess with it.
[07:02] <gskellig> one of the reasons I bought this laptop was because I could switch between mobility (very very long battery life) and performance (gaming and HD movies)
[07:02] <gskellig> on windows, it doesn't even require a reboot. I would be VERY okay with it requiring a reboot, but not a reboot and 10 mins of messing with the terminal
[07:02] <gskellig> which, at this point its about 30 mins of messing around to switch correctly
[07:03] <newbie_> ubuntu 11.04 install appears to be frozen on welcome screen.
[07:03] <maestrojed> ok, I think I got that. Thanks iceroot_ MK``
[07:03] <MrSalt> gskellig: Video drivers, even the commerical ones from Nvida, always lag a bit behind.  That's really Nvidia's fault more than anything, but it doesn't make things any better.
[07:04] <gskellig> lag a bit behind?
[07:04] <gskellig> really??
[07:04] <gskellig> and the AMD ones dont?
[07:05] <newbie_> how do i tell when install is complete?
[07:05] <a12> I searched google, found nothing...
[07:05] <MrSalt> gskellig: The Linux video drivers always take longer to come out than the Windows drivers.  The new wiz-bang features in some of these cards can't really be used until the manufacturer updates the drivers.  We all wait.
[07:05] <maestrojed> How about this one :) I installed soundkonverter via synaptic package manager. It says to install software http://www.musepack.net. The readme says put the lib folder in usr/local/lib but I am unsure what to do with the other files.
[07:05] <gskellig> the bumblebee project is completely unofficial. nvidia has zero support for dual graphics cards on linux
[07:06] <gskellig> its a fairly old laptop at this point though
[07:06] <gskellig> i think it came out in early 2010
[07:06] <gskellig> possibly  christmas 2009
[07:06] <newbie_> hello?
[07:06] <gskellig> i have an asus UL30VT
[07:06] <Khisanth> heh ... then mine is prehistoric?
[07:07] <maestrojed> Do they go in /usr/bin?
[07:07] <newbie_> how do i get past the install/welcome screen?
[07:07] <MrSalt> gskellig: Poking around Google finds various updates around May/Jun 2011, which is not going to be in any release distro.  Search google, you may be able to get a driver to download yourself, but it's going to be a fight no matter how you cut it.  Sorry.
[07:07] <gskellig> MrSalt, I have a download, they actually have an ubuntu PPA now. I just can't get it working right
[07:08] <gskellig> updated august 15 =D
[07:08] <MrSalt> gskellig: Sounds like you're on the right track
[07:08] <gskellig> MrSalt, https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project I've been messing with it over the last couple of days, with no success
[07:08] <gskellig> other than breaking unity about half a dozen times =\
[07:09] <newbie_> help
[07:10] <MrSalt> gskellig: Yeah, that looks like it's only been around a couple of weeks.  It's going to be raw.  There may be other works in progress, hopefully something from Nvidia.
[07:10] <newbie_> install frozen
[07:10] <a12> Hello!
[07:10] <gskellig> MrSalt, the github is new, but it's been worked on since about april/may. Nvidia has reported that they will not support hybrid or dual graphics cards on linux at all
[07:11] <newbie_> need help with 11.04 install.
[07:11] <crunchbang> hey newbie_
[07:12] <crunchbang> is it your first time truing to install?
[07:12] <newbie_> hello. yes
[07:12] <MrSalt> gskellig: Video drivers have always been a rough spot in Linux (all versions).  Sounds like it's going to be a fight.  Sorry.
[07:12] <gskellig> np. Hopefully I'll wait it out for a bit and let bumblebee development grow a bit
[07:13] <gskellig> the ppa and repository are brand spankin' new
[07:13] <a12> Hi, if I want to play youtube videos totem says: "The playlist 'anyplayist' could not be parsed. It might be damaged." I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and GStreamer-plugins-bad/ugly plus depencies, but the error is still there. Help me, please. Thank you very much.
 install appears to be frozen on welcome screen.
[07:14] <MrSalt> a12: Sounds like the playlist file itself is corrupt.  The extra packages will help with various video formats, but it sounds like you have a problem with the playlist file itself.
[07:14] <crunchbang> newbie_: hang on, so is that before or after the "install" part?
 during
[07:15] <urlin2u> a12`I get the same, try minitube maybe.
 hello :)
[07:15] <a12> but, is there a solution?
[07:15] <urlin2u> newbie_, howdy.
[07:15] <a12> ANd what is minitube?
[07:16] <crunchbang> newbie_ try again maybe? just a 1-time thing perhaps
[07:16] <urlin2u> a12`a in the repos youtube player, needs no flash.
[07:16] <MrSalt> urlin2u: Hadn't seen minitube.  That's pretty cool.
[07:17] <urlin2u> MrSalt, ;)
[07:17] <crunchbang> newbie_: its happened to me before with other distros, then installs clean the second time around
 <urlin2u> idk. i clicked OK to continue install after an error message. it seemed to freeze after that, but I can access the icons in the top right of the screen.
[07:18] <a12> SO, I NEED TO INSTALL FLASH PLAYER TO HAVE THE PLUGIN WORKING?
[07:18] <Macetouch> what is a good program for recording a video of you desktop?
[07:19] <crunchbang> newbie_ did the error message tell you anything other than error?
[07:19] <MrSalt> a12: Most likely, but I haven't tried all of the alternatives.  Installing minitube went really quickly for me.
[07:20] <urlin2u> a12`you ran the restricyed extras you have flash, minitube runs without it.
[07:20] <gskellig> how can i kill the xserver?
[07:20] <crunchbang> pkill xorg
 yes.   That might work.  :)
[07:28] <crunchbang> fax it
[07:28] <newbie_> seems that if the md5 matched then the iso is good.
[07:28] <crunchbang> yeah, maybe just a bad install
 <MRSalt> lol :D
[07:29] <jasonwong1991> hello...
[07:29] <crunchbang> hey there
[07:29] <MrSalt> newbie_: You're not doing anything wierd with the partitioning, are you?
[07:29] <jasonwong1991> does anyone here have faced the problem of r8168?
[07:29] <newbie_> whole disc
[07:29] <newbie_> over xp.
[07:30] <jasonwong1991> i can't get r8168 work in the latest linux 2.6.38-11
[07:30] <MrSalt> newbie_: Do you have a raid setup?
[07:30] <newbie_> raid?
[07:31] <crunchbang> jasonwong1991: http://www.jamesonwilliams.com/hardy-r8168 first hit on the google
[07:31] <MrSalt> newbie_: Nevermind, that's good.  If you're formatting the whole disk, then it should at least come up without crashing.  :(
[07:31] <crunchbang> lol ^^
[07:31] <MrSalt> newbie_: Maybe try the advanced partitioning, and manually delete the old XP parition and create a new one so you know the old stuff is good and dead.
[07:32] <newbie_> came up and ran fine til after that error message.
[07:32] <crunchbang> jasonwong1991: sorry bro I just threw that out there no idea if it helps
[07:32] <MrSalt> newbie_: I'm just making this up. It might not help, but I'm grasping around.
[07:33] <newbie_> thanks
[07:33] <MrSalt> newbie_: Oh, sorry, missed that part of the conversation.
[07:33] <newbie_> i'll go thru that tomorrow. it's 335am here. i need to head to bed.
[07:33] <jasonwong1991> crunchbang i can fix this with linux 2.6.38-8
[07:34] <newbie_> np
[07:34] <jasonwong1991> however, with linux 2.6.38-11
[07:34] <MrSalt> newbie_: Same here.  Good luck.
[07:34] <newbie_> thanks
[07:34] <jasonwong1991> they just incompatible
[07:34] <newbie_> ps if using satellite internet DONT include updates while installing!!
[07:34] <markdaws> hi - I'm trying to change theTIME_WAIT timeout value using "sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_fin_timeout=15" from the default of 60, but changing the value doesn't have any effect, anyone know how to change this value, always seems to be stuck at the default of 60 seconds
[07:35] <newbie_> the straw is faster
[07:35] <MrSalt> newbie_: Noted.  :)
[07:35] <crunchbang> ill send you some new straws
[07:35] <newbie_> hahaha :D
[07:36] <JPSman> so i have an SSH tunnel into another computer on the network and i'm trying to save the output of a grep into a file with > and it doesn't work remotely, but does when i put the command in directly
[07:36] <newbie_> the time line on install while doing that ranged between 2 mins and 87 mins.
[07:37] <MrSalt> JPSman: What kind of command are you using?
[07:38] <JPSman> ./4tripper | grep -i wii > WORK
[07:38] <JPSman> MrSalt, the file WORK gets created but nothing gets written to it
[07:38] <newbie_> goodnight
[07:39] <crunchbang> jasonwong1991: Might this help?  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=118414
[07:39] <iceroot_> JPSman: but without > there is output on stdout?
[07:39] <JPSman> well, yes
[07:39] <JPSman> stdout being sent to my remote location
[07:39] <thechef> How can I connect my computer to Ubuntu One? (10.04)
[07:39] <JPSman> when i do it remotely it doesn't work, but when I type it in directly it does
[07:40] <JPSman> im just trying to understand the nature of linux :OD
[07:40] <crunchbang> aren't we all
[07:40] <MrSalt> JPSman: You're SSHed into the remote computer in a shell?
[07:40] <JPSman> yes
[07:40] <Wulf> Hello
[07:40] <JPSman> I think, whats a shell?
[07:41] <Wulf> Can someone pastebin the default /etc/sudoers of a recent ubuntu, please?
[07:41] <JPSman> just you know ssh -l user ip.add.res.01
[07:41] <MrSalt> JPSman: In a command line.
[07:41] <JPSman> yeah, in a command line
[07:42] <JPSman> I think it would have to do with something about standard out being sent back to the SSH and not locally.  just a hunch
[07:42] <iceroot_> JPSman: its not being send back
[07:42] <iceroot_> JPSman: is the loginshell on the remote-system also bash?
[07:42] <MrSalt> JPSman: Well, if you're in like that, you're completely on the remote computer, and every you do is similar to being on that computer.  I would think that would be work.
[07:42] <MrSalt> would work
[07:42] <JPSman> yeah, also ubuntu
[07:42] <JPSman> so yeah, the file get created but nothing is being written to it
[07:43] <MrSalt> JPSman: If you just output the first command (leave out the grep) into > WORK, what happens?
[07:44] <JPSman> lemme try....
[07:45] <MrSalt> JPSman: ./4tripper > WORK
[07:46] <JPSman> yeah, that works
[07:47] <MrSalt> JPSman: OK, so it's not an output file problem, but a restrictive grep?
[07:47] <iceroot_> JPSman: and the word "wii" is in it?
[07:47] <iceroot_> JPSman: grep -i wii WORK
[07:48] <damagednoob> i *think* i'm having trouble with routes and vpn. I'm trying to connect to my companies vpn. I'm connecting from the command line and it seems to successfully connect. However, I can't ping anything on my compan's network. i'm not sure where to start
[07:49] <Wulf> damagednoob: ip link show; ip route show; ip addr show; ip rule show; iptables -L -n -v -x
[07:49] <Wulf> damagednoob: pastebin that somewhere
[07:49] <JPSman> 4tripper just generates hash trip tags and grep is used to filter out wanted words - wii is part of the output especially with the -i flag
[07:50] <JPSman> does the write out to standard out command " > " need a certain amount of data passed to it before it actually writes the file?
[07:50] <krishnan> When I try to create a bootable USB stick with ubuntu server 10.04 the syslinux throws an error and it doesnt install. hence the stick is not bootable. tried diffrnt tools same prblm occurs. the same iso file works fine in virtual box.
[07:51] <JPSman> er, write to file from standard out sorry
[07:51] <Wulf> krishnan: what error
[07:51] <krishnan> Wulf: boot loader is not installing.
[07:52] <MrSalt> JPSman: Generally, no.  But you grep doesn't like your data, and that can be a Carrage return issue, or foreign caracters in the data, or something.
[07:53] <MrSalt> JPSman: I'd bring the data file you just generated back to your local computer, and cat LOCALFILE | grep -i wii and try different forms and tests
[07:53] <Wulf> krishnan: syslinux would not output that
[07:53] <krishnan> Wulf: boot loader is not installing.
[07:53] <JPSman> thanks MrSalt
[07:53] <krishnan> Wulf: syslinux is throwing an error. the message is like syslinux nt able to install, report ths error to microsoft.
[07:53] <damagednoob> Wulf: http://pastebin.com/L5CFYemP
[07:54] <Wulf> krishnan: microsoft.. sure.
[07:54] <MrSalt> JPSman: Load the data up in vim, SET LIST to see control characters, and see what looks funny.
[07:54] <Wulf> krishnan: please get the exact error message
[07:55] <MrSalt> JPSman: np
[07:55] <krishnan> Wulf: ok give me some time I will. pls dnt go offline.
[07:55] <Wulf> damagednoob: which one is your company vpn? ppp0?
[07:55] <damagednoob> yeah
[07:55] <MrSalt> In the meantime, I'm going to bed.  Night all.
[07:56] <Wulf> damagednoob: you have no route into ppp0
[07:56] <especially-corn> does anyone know what i have to install in ubuntu minimal install to get the mounting working?
[07:56] <Wulf> damagednoob: do you have docs from your company which give some details?
[07:57] <Wulf> especially-corn: what mounting?
[07:57] <especially-corn> Wulf: mounting of unmounted media in any file manager
[07:57] <especially-corn> the devices appear in the list but if you click them they don't work
[07:57] <damagednoob> hmm, i added the following to my  /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/add-subnet file: route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev $PPP_IFACEPPTP   PPTP   PPTP
[07:57] <Wulf> especially-corn: udisk or something?
[07:58] <damagednoob> wulf: i do have some info but the setup is for windows
[07:58] <Wulf> damagednoob: that's okay
[07:59] <damagednoob> Wulf: i've tried the vpn manager in network-manager-pptp but it seems to fail
[07:59] <damagednoob> Wulf: I followed the 7.04 walkthrough from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN#VPN%20Setup%20in%20Ubuntu%209.10
[07:59] <damagednoob> Wulf: and it seems to connect
[08:00] <NameLess-exe> any tips on turning a core2duo 2gb ddr2 desktop into a linux serveR?
[08:01] <greenmang0> hi friends, need help with "fsck on lvm" ... root which is mounted on lvm has errors on filesystem ... when i run "fsck.ext4 -vn /dev/vg-root/lv-root" fsck displays errors .. but when same partition is mounted using liveusb ... fsck.ext4 just runs a check and exits
[08:02] <greenmang0> how can fix those errors?
[08:02] <Wulf> krishnan: bbiaw. In the meanwhile, ask the other people here.
[08:02] <krishnan> Wulf: ok
[08:03] <krishnan> When I try to create a bootable USB stick with ubuntu server 10.04 the syslinux throws an error and it doesnt install. hence the stick is not bootable. tried diffrnt tools same prblm occurs. the same iso file works fine in virtual box.
[08:08] <llutz> NameLess-exe: a "server" for what? make a list of stuff you need running, install a fresh minimal-linux and then only the stuff you really need
[08:09] <NameLess-exe> llutz: mainly back ups, website hosting and amybe a fwe game servers
[08:09] <Guest90447> i am trying to dual boot ubuntu and windows 7 on two separate data drives. Should i have the bios set on ide, raid, or ahci? I had to set it on ahci to get ubuntu to boot, but now windows 7 won't boot. What should it be set on?