[00:00] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ok now be careful because any changes will affect those partitions
[00:00] <prince_jammys> sMonk: let's look around first and see what happened
[00:00] <sMonk> yup, I just tried to use dolphin on my root folder, and it says permission denied
[00:00] <sMonk> but I can get my home folder
[00:01] <crashed> Anyone know how to fix TV Time?
[00:01] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ls -ld /mnt/workspace/dev/vboxdrv
[00:03] <sMonk> No such file or directory
[00:03] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ok i think what has to be done is to chroot into that partition
[00:04] <sMonk> my home folder has a .Virtualbox folder.. no help?
[00:04] <sMonk> but Dolphin still says that Access is denied to my /root folder
[00:05] <prince_jammys> sMonk: close dolphin
[00:05] <sMonk> ok
[00:05] <stdin> /dev is a virtual filesystem created by the kernel, it won't have anything (useful) unless it's on the real root fs
[00:05] <prince_jammys> stdin:: is this correct now? mount -t proc none /mnt/workspace/proc
[00:06] <daSKreech> prince_jammys: /dev doesn't really exist
[00:06] <stdin> that would work yeah, also "mount -t proc proc /whatecer"
[00:06] <sMonk> stdin I have a pastbin of the problem he's helping me with, do you want to see it?
[00:06] <prince_jammys> stdin: followed by mount -o bind /dev /mnt/workspace/dev
[00:06] <daSKreech> prince_jammys: /proc doesn't really exist either :)
[00:07] <prince_jammys> daSKreech: right, so we chroot into his / partition
[00:07] <stdin> sMonk: yeah
[00:07] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57274/
[00:07] <stdin> binding or mounting a new proc doesn't matter, same effect there
[00:07] <prince_jammys> sMonk: mount -t proc none /mnt/workspace/proc
[00:08] <sMonk> ok
[00:08] <stdin> sMonk: how long ago did you install virtualbox?
[00:08] <prince_jammys> sMonk: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/workspace/dev
[00:08] <sMonk> ok
[00:08] <prince_jammys> sMonk: chroot /mnt/workspace  /bin/bash
[00:09] <karl_> anyone know which package is libsdl?
[00:09] <sMonk> ok
[00:09] <prince_jammys> sMonk: export PS1="(chroot) $PS1"
[00:09] <daSKreech> sMonk: might want answer stdin  :)
[00:09] <crashed> Man, this TV tuner is making me so frustrated.
[00:09] <daSKreech> karl_: I would assume libsdl
[00:10] <stdin> !find libsdl*.so
[00:10] <ubotu> Found: libsdl-sound1.2, libsdl-sound1.2-dev
[00:10] <sMonk> daSKreech: what?
[00:10] <sMonk> ok
[00:10] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ok now you should be chrooted
[00:10] <sMonk> yup
[00:11] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ls -ld /dev/vboxdrv
[00:11] <sMonk> no such file or directory
[00:11] <stdin> /dev/vboxdrv won't be there unless the virtualbox driver is loaded
[00:11] <prince_jammys> ah
[00:12] <prince_jammys> stdin: do you have a clue what happened there?
[00:12] <sMonk> lol, yeah, can you tell me nicely how I messed up
[00:12] <stdin> not really, but a bit of exploring seems to be in order
[00:12] <stdin> what's the permissions of /sbin/klogd ?
[00:12] <prince_jammys> stdin: he has a separate home partition
[00:13] <stdin> (ls -l /sbin/klogd)
[00:13] <sMonk> it's      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22948 2007-09-17 16:54 /sbin/klogd
[00:13] <prince_jammys> stdin: it all probably began because his user is probably not a member of the group vboxsomethingortheother
[00:14] <Manden> sMonk: What are the permission of /tmp?
[00:14] <prince_jammys> maybe probably
[00:14] <prince_jammys> :)
[00:14] <stdin> prince_jammys: that doesn't explain "start-stop-daemon : unable to start /sbin/klogd: permission denied"
[00:14] <prince_jammys> stdin: no it doesnt
[00:15] <bobesponja> hi
[00:15] <sMonk> permissions of /tmp   drwxrwxrwt
[00:15] <prince_jammys> good
[00:15] <bobesponja> after using airsnort, my wifi card stopped working, it is not detected anymore :/ any idea how to fix this?
[00:15] <prince_jammys> sMonk: keep pasting the owners on everything
[00:15] <Manden> permissions of / ?
[00:15] <prince_jammys> sMonk: paste the whole line
[00:15] <sMonk> hold on.. I'll give you a pastbin of the whole root
[00:16] <bobesponja> anyone?
[00:16] <Manden> Isn't airsnort to decrypt wireless network encryption?
[00:16] <crashed> how do you use insmod?
[00:16] <crashed> insmod card=2
[00:16] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57278/
[00:16] <crashed> Throws out errors.
[00:16] <bobesponja> Manden: yes it is
[00:18] <bobesponja> Manden: I'm not using airsnort anymore, but my wifi card doesn't work anymore now, it doesn't even detect other wireless networks
[00:18] <Manden> It probably overwrites the old drivers.
[00:19] <bobesponja> Manden: I see, any idea what I could do to get it back? :)
[00:19] <sMonk> prince_jammys: did you get the pastbin?
[00:19] <Manden> sMonk: the permissions there look alright
[00:19] <crashed> Eek, nearly got this working.,
[00:19] <prince_jammys> sMonk: yeah i'm looking at it
[00:20] <sMonk> ok
[00:20] <crashed> crashed@crashed-pc:~$ sudo rmmod saa7134_alsa && sudo rmmod saa7134 && sudo modprobe saa7134
[00:20] <crashed> ERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use
[00:20] <Manden> bobesponja: use your distrobutions package manager to reinstall wireless drivers
[00:20] <sMonk> btw, thanks stdin, prince & Manden
[00:20] <crashed> It's in use, how to I unload that module?
[00:20] <stdin> sMonk: try "/etc/init.d/klogd start" see if it throws some error
[00:21] <daSKreech> stdin: I missed it is he chrooted?
[00:21] <stdin> yeah
[00:21] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57279/
[00:22] <bobesponja> Manden: I have "Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG", do you know what's the driver for that? isn't it included in the kernel alreaedy?
[00:22] <stdin> right
[00:23] <crashed> crashed@crashed-pc:~$ sudo rmmod saa7134_alsa
[00:23] <crashed> ERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use
[00:23] <crashed> Anyone, how do I stop that module?
[00:23] <sMonk> linux needs a "restore" setting for users like me
[00:23] <Manden> bobesponja: They're usually modules.  What distrobution are you using?  On SuSE a search for "wireless" in YaST finds the rigth driver.
[00:24] <bobesponja> Manden: I'm on kubuntu
[00:24] <prince_jammys> permission denied, and you're root
[00:25] <Manden> prince_jammys: I don't think the issue is directly with klogd.  Permissions must be messed up somewhere else and it waterfalling to klogd
[00:25] <prince_jammys> sMonk: brb, pasta is overcooking
[00:26] <sMonk> lol, np
[00:26] <Manden> bobesponja: You can try searching for "wireless" in whatever package manager Ubuntu uses.  It might be easier to Google, proset ubuntu drivers
[00:26] <coreymon77> huh? wifi problems?
[00:26] <coreymon77> bobesponja: which card?
[00:26] <coreymon77> bobesponja: and whats the matter
[00:26] <bobesponja> coreymon77: : I have "Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG"
[00:26] <Manden> sMonk: did they already look at the permissions on your home directory?
[00:27] <bobesponja> the matter is that network card doesn't work at all
[00:27] <coreymon77> bobesponja: let me guess, mac?
[00:27] <sMonk> no, I'll paste them
[00:27] <bobesponja> coreymon77: intel inspiron 6400
[00:27] <coreymon77> oh
[00:27] <bobesponja> dell
[00:27] <coreymon77> okay
[00:28] <bobesponja> coreymon77: it used to work great, but after using airsnort for a while, it just stopped working, nno idea if it's related
[00:28] <sMonk> permissions of /home/dale is drwxrwxrwx
[00:28] <coreymon77> bobesponja: gutsy?
[00:28] <sMonk> do you need the files in the home folder?
[00:28] <bobesponja> coreymon77: yes
[00:29] <Manden> sMonk: Did you run chmod 777 -R /home ?
[00:29] <coreymon77> bobesponja: what driver were you using before?
[00:29] <sMonk> yeah
[00:29] <Manden> sMonk: If so, then I know the permission.  As a note, that was not a good thing to do, but it doesn't break anything right now.
[00:29] <bobesponja> coreymon77: no idea, the one that comes with kubuntu, it was automatically detected like all intel wifi card
[00:30] <sMonk> ok
[00:31] <sMonk> <-- hangs head in shame
[00:31] <coreymon77> bobesponja: give this a try, apt-cache search iwlwifi
[00:31] <Manden> It's fixable
[00:32] <daSKreech> sMonk: My friend did a chown -R smonk /
[00:32] <coreymon77> bobesponja: that give you anything?
[00:32] <daSKreech> really really messed up his system
[00:32] <sMonk> ouch
[00:32] <sMonk> <-- suddenly not feeling so bad
[00:32] <bobesponja> coreymon77: nothing
[00:32] <Manden> Maybe you could delete the contents of the /tmp directory
[00:33] <sMonk> nothing in it
[00:33] <Manden> ok, well that won't work then
[00:33] <sMonk> lol
[00:33] <daSKreech> delete the nothing!!
[00:34] <Manden> On this post you sent to me, the guy did a chmod 755 / , and he said it fixed it.  However, it seems like a bad idea, and your permissions were alright on /
[00:34] <coreymon77> hmm
[00:34] <bobesponja> coreymon77: there is libiw29
[00:34] <coreymon77> !info iwlwifi
[00:34] <ubotu> Package iwlwifi does not exist in gutsy
[00:34] <sMonk> sMonk performs  rm nothing in /tmp
[00:34] <coreymon77> !find iwlwifi
[00:34] <ubotu> Package/file iwlwifi does not exist in gutsy
[00:34] <bobesponja> !info libiw28
[00:34] <ubotu> Package libiw28 does not exist in gutsy
[00:34] <coreymon77> not good
[00:34] <coreymon77> well
[00:35] <coreymon77> its not that bad
[00:35] <prince_jammys> sMonk: hey
[00:35] <coreymon77> we just need to find out if the new driver exists on your system
[00:35] <sMonk> I'm here
[00:35] <prince_jammys> sMonk: you haven't been doing anything radical? :)
[00:35] <prince_jammys> sMonk: just glanced at the screens and saw some -Rs and rms
[00:36] <sMonk> no, nothing as of late
[00:36] <coreymon77> !info firmware-iwlwifi
[00:36] <ubotu> Package firmware-iwlwifi does not exist in gutsy
[00:37] <sMonk> the only thing I have been doing is google"ing" my mistake, and sifting through lots of german and italian pages... still the only page that looks promising is the first one I found
[00:37] <coreymon77> well, there is a new driver
[00:37] <coreymon77> im not sure if its part of the system
[00:38] <coreymon77> !find firmware-iwlwifi
[00:38] <ubotu> Package/file firmware-iwlwifi does not exist in gutsy
[00:39] <tekstacy> Do iPods work well w/ k and amarok?
[00:39] <karl_> tekstacy: yes
[00:39] <prince_jammys> sMonk: yeah googling is good here
[00:40] <coreymon77> bobesponja: i dont want to mess it up even more since im not sure if you have the driver preloaded, so heres the ubuntu wiki page ive been using as refference
[00:40] <tekstacy> no need for that stupid itunes?
[00:40] <sMonk> this is still the only decent site I found   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629613&page=2
[00:40] <sMonk> on page 1 this person seems to have the same problem as me.
[00:41] <coreymon> bobesponja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/iwlwifi_Intel_3945_4965/gutsy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28AND%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29
[00:41] <bobesponja> k thanks
[00:41] <Manden> Yeah, but his sollution doesn't seem to work for you.
[00:41] <sMonk> oh
[00:41] <sMonk> wont I have to do a chmod 755 on my home dir?
[00:41] <sMonk> considering I oopsed and did a 777 on it
[00:42] <Manden> You already did a 777 of it, which is more permissive than 755
[00:42] <Manden> if 755 worked, then so should 777
[00:42] <sMonk> yeah.. but you said I'll have to get it "back" later
[00:42] <sMonk> or is that something else?
[00:43] <Manden> Yeah, but you should change it back because now anyone can change stuff in your home folder
[00:43] <Manden> 777 on home folder shouldn't break things.
[00:43] <sMonk> ah
[00:44] <Manden> hmm, try ll -d /
[00:44] <matt__> is the "amd64" compatible with intel pentium d processors?
[00:44] <Manden> or ls -ld /
[00:44] <matt__> i find it interesting that the ubuntu disk mentions intel 64 bits, but the kubuntu ones' just mention amd
[00:45] <Manden> matt__: The amd64 kernel?  No
[00:45] <sMonk> drw-rw-rw- 21 root root
[00:45] <Manden> that's not right
[00:45] <sMonk> oh?
[00:45] <matt__> Manden: umm....the disk image for download...
[00:45] <sMonk> YAY!! head room
[00:45] <Manden> anyone else who uses Kubuntu, can you ls -ld / ?
[00:46] <daSKreech> sMonk: umm You mean headway?
[00:46] <sMonk> it should have an "x" at the end right?
[00:46] <Manden> matt__: I think that it's referring to the kernel.  I don't think the amd64 kernel works with Intel
[00:46] <matt__> Manden: that's what i mean...hold on..
[00:46] <sMonk> ... no.. head room.. I had so much google junk in my head. .now I can loose some of it.. lol
[00:46] <Manden> it should be drwxr-xr-x 21 root root I think
[00:46] <Manden> lose*
[00:46] <matt__> Manden: look:
[00:46] <matt__> http://mirrors.jgi-psf.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/
[00:47] <sMonk> that's what I thought
[00:47] <matt__> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[00:47] <prince_jammys> sMonk: that guy in the link seems to have had the permissions of his mount points wrong
[00:47] <Manden> sMonk: One sec though.  Don't want to go too fast.  I use SuSE and Kubuntu is a bit differnt
[00:47] <matt__> Manden: see...for ubuntu...it mentions intel as well...but it doesn't for kubuntu...if you catch my drift...
[00:47] <sMonk> ok
[00:48] <Manden> prince_jammys: Did you see the permissions of his / directory?  I think they're wrong.
[00:48] <sMonk> drw-rw-rw- 21 root root
[00:48] <sMonk> drw-rw-rw- 21 root root 4096 2008-01-06 15:53 /
[00:48] <prince_jammys> sMonk: that looks like the problem
[00:48] <Manden> sMonk: when you type mount what does it tell you?
[00:48] <prince_jammys> sMonk: same as the problem described in the link
[00:49] <prince_jammys> Manden: you know he's chrooted, right?
[00:49] <sMonk> here you go   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57280/
[00:49] <Manden> prince_jammys: ah
[00:50] <prince_jammys> Mandon: he chrooted into / from the live cd
[00:50] <sMonk> prince_jammys: what do you mean?
[00:50] <Manden> matt__: I see what you mean.  On the Ubuntu page it looks like the amd64 one will work.  Kubuntu is based on Ubuntu, so it should work, but you might want to google it to be sure.
[00:50] <prince_jammys> sMonk: in the web link you posted, the person ended up resolving the problem by changing the permissions of his partition mount points, both / and /home
[00:51] <sMonk> yeah
[00:51] <sMonk> and tmp
[00:51] <prince_jammys> sMonk: now if i do   ls -ld /    i get: drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2008-01-05 15:10 /
[00:51] <prince_jammys> sMonk: that's 755
[00:51] <sMonk> ok
[00:51] <prince_jammys> sMonk: yours are 666
[00:51] <prince_jammys> :)
[00:52] <sMonk> yeah..... hey.. just like I first said.. you think I typed it wrong when I tried to chage the permisions of the Virtualbox?
[00:53] <prince_jammys> sMonk: maybe
[00:53] <sMonk> cause I tried to chage the Vmbox to 666 to let me use it.. (rather than giving myself permission)
[00:53] <sMonk> maybe I hit / instead
[00:53] <prince_jammys> sMonk: now before you change this, what are the permissions of your /home
[00:53] <prince_jammys> sMonk: excuse me, your /home/youruser
[00:53] <sMonk> drwxrwxrwx  4 root root
[00:54] <sMonk> yeah I got what you ment ;)
[00:54] <sMonk> lol
[00:54] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ok you don't need to sudo right now, right? you're root
[00:54] <sMonk> yeah
[00:55] <prince_jammys> sMonk: here's my home drwxr-xr-x 71 tantalus tantalus 4096 2008-02-24 18:12 /home/tantalus
[00:55] <prince_jammys> sMonk: that's 755, you are 777 and wrong owner
[00:55] <sMonk> that's 755 too
[00:56] <sMonk> right
[00:56] <prince_jammys> sMonk: 777 shouldn't matter (though it's not good)
[00:56] <sMonk> right
[00:56] <prince_jammys> it means come get me
[00:56] <prince_jammys> :)
[00:56] <sMonk> damn
[00:57] <K`zan> Hi Folks, what is the command to reconfigure xorg (moved HD to a new machine), I thought it was "apt-cache reconfigure xorg" but apparently not.  TIA
[00:57] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ok     chown youruser:youruser /home/youruser
[00:57] <sMonk> ok, so could the / permissions be my problem?
[00:57] <prince_jammys> K`zan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:57] <prince_jammys> sMonk: both
[00:57] <prince_jammys> sMonk: the / definitely
[00:57] <sMonk> so type this then   chown dale:dale /home/dale
[00:57] <prince_jammys> yes
[00:57] <K`zan> prince_jammys: Thanks very much Sir!
[00:58] <sMonk> can't access it..
[00:58] <sMonk> no file or dir
[00:58] <prince_jammys> sMonk: right
[00:58] <prince_jammys> sMonk: just realized
[00:58] <sMonk> LiveCD
[00:58] <sMonk> lol
[00:59] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ok note that command because after you do your / you're going to type it in the terminal
[00:59] <sMonk> ok, so do you think I should try to chmod the / ?
[00:59] <sMonk> ok
[00:59] <sMonk> I won't close this window
[00:59] <prince_jammys> sMonk: otherwise, we fix your / but your user still won't be able to log in
[00:59] <sMonk> ok
[00:59] <prince_jammys> sMonk: no, the command will have to happen after you reboot
[00:59] <sMonk> I won't do anything unless told
[01:00] <prince_jammys> sMonk: chmod 755 /
[01:00] <sMonk> now
[01:00] <sMonk> ?
[01:00] <prince_jammys> yeah
[01:00] <prince_jammys> sMonk: and verify
[01:01] <prince_jammys> ls -ld /
[01:01] <sMonk> bingo!  drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2008-01-06 15:53 /
[01:01] <prince_jammys> good
[01:01] <prince_jammys> would be nice if we could just mount your home from here
[01:01] <Manden> i think the command should be chown yourname.users   It's a perions not a colon, and it's usually owned by users
[01:01] <Manden> period*
[01:02] <prince_jammys> we're not changing the owner, just the permissions
[01:02] <prince_jammys> the owner is fine
[01:02] <sMonk> I think he means on the home dir no?
[01:02] <prince_jammys> sMonk: on the home dir you do both
[01:02] <Manden> You're not changing the owners of the homedire?
[01:02] <prince_jammys> yes, but it's not mounted
[01:03] <Manden> ah color or period works, but I think the group should be users
[01:03] <oloughlin75> Hey all, I am trying to make something and am getting this error: http://pastebin.org/21094
[01:03] <sMonk> well, it's mounted under that /mnt/workhome
[01:03] <prince_jammys> sMonk: right
[01:03] <prince_jammys> sMonk: i just don't know how to un-chroot you
[01:03] <sMonk> ok, so what's my next step?
[01:03] <prince_jammys> sMonk: hold on
[01:03] <sMonk> oh
[01:04] <prince_jammys> sMonk: the next step is see if we can deal with your home right now without rebooting
[01:04] <sMonk> ok
[01:04] <Manden> ctr+D should leave chroot
[01:05] <derdui> hi, is anybody able to help me with the installation of the flash player? iam in the right direktory, bit if i type in ./flashplayer-installer, i only see no such file or directory
[01:05] <sMonk> should I try chown dale:dale /mnt/workhome
[01:06] <BluesKaj> derdui, to which directory did you download it
[01:07] <sMonk> prince_jammys: what about chown dale:dale /mnt/workhome
[01:07] <derdui> desktop^^
[01:07] <prince_jammys> sMonk: not until you un-chroot
[01:07] <sMonk> ok
[01:07] <prince_jammys> sMonk: try control D like Manden said
[01:07] <sMonk> ok
[01:07] <sMonk> boom
[01:07] <sMonk> yup
[01:08] <sMonk> now root@ubuntu:~#
[01:08] <BluesKaj> derdui then type : cd desktop ,in the konsole
[01:08] <prince_jammys> can you ls /mnt/workhome
[01:08] <Manden> i think you want to chown /mnt/workhome/username
[01:08] <prince_jammys> yes
[01:08] <mrunagi> !flash | derdui
[01:08] <ubotu> derdui: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:08] <derdui> are you german blueskaj?
[01:08] <sMonk> yes I can
[01:08] <prince_jammys> chown dale:dale /mnt/workhome/user
[01:09] <BluesKaj> no, canadian
[01:09] <sMonk> dale  lost+found
[01:09] <sMonk> is what was found
[01:09] <prince_jammys> sMonk: your user not there?
[01:09] <prince_jammys> oh i see, dale
[01:09] <sMonk> yup
[01:09] <BluesKaj> derdui, cd /home/yourusername/desktop
[01:10] <sMonk> so then chown dale:dale /mnt/workhome/dale
[01:10] <prince_jammys> do that chown and verify with ls -ld /mnt/blahblah
[01:10] <sMonk> chown: `dale:dale': invalid user
[01:10] <prince_jammys> hah
[01:10] <derdui> i tried it like that monk, but when i type cd /home/derui/Desktop/flashplayer:
[01:10] <sMonk> should I try that *.
[01:10] <Manden> dale.users
[01:11] <prince_jammys> that's the chroot problem
[01:11] <Manden> There's no group dale
[01:11] <derdui> _installer:9_linux it doesnt work
[01:11] <derdui> -:
[01:11] <prince_jammys> nor user, because he's on  live cd
[01:11] <prince_jammys> and not chrooted
[01:11] <sMonk> ok.. so now try what Manden said... chown dale.users /mnt.....
[01:11] <quocdai> help me
[01:12] <prince_jammys> Manden what are the owner and group of your home dir
[01:12] <sMonk> I'll wait
[01:12] <Manden> justin.users
[01:12] <prince_jammys> ah
[01:12] <Manden> he should be able to set the UID directly
[01:12] <prince_jammys> mine are both the same
[01:12] <prince_jammys> 1000?
[01:12] <Manden> ah, Kubuntu thing maybe.
[01:12] <quocdai> where can i get gcc ?
[01:12] <Manden> But he should be able to force it to change, or use the UID
[01:13] <BluesKaj> derdui, first, cd /home/yourusername/desktop , then type, ./flashplayer-installer
[01:13] <Daisuke-Ido> !build-essential | quocdai
[01:13] <ubotu> quocdai: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[01:13] <Manden> try chown -f dale:dale /mnt/workhome/dale
[01:13] <quocdai> yes
[01:13] <quocdai> thanks
[01:13] <quocdai> !packages
[01:13] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[01:14] <quocdai> !build-essential
[01:14] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[01:14] <prince_jammys> sMonk: try that
[01:14] <sMonk> chown: `dale:dale': invalid user
[01:14] <prince_jammys> sMonk: mmm
[01:15] <Manden> ok cat /etc/passwd | grep dale
[01:15] <prince_jammys> sMonk: you can do this once you reboot from a terminal
[01:15] <sMonk> ok, what one am I doing here?
[01:15] <Manden> it should say dale:x:[some number]:[somenumber]
[01:15] <prince_jammys> sMonk: when you reboot, you *hopefully* won't get the old errors, but still will not be able to login as your user until you chown
[01:16] <sMonk> Manden: it did nothing
[01:16] <derdui> it doesnt works blueskaj
[01:16] <prince_jammys> in /mnt/workspace/etc/passwd
[01:16] <sMonk> prince_jammys: ok, but to make it to a terminal so I can log in.. should I do recovery mode?
[01:16] <Manden> oh yeah, it's remounted
[01:17] <prince_jammys> sMonk: yes, you can do that and then ::   sudo chown
[01:17] <Manden> then chown -f [firstnumber].[secondnumber] /etc/workhome/dale
[01:17] <BluesKaj> derdui, paste the konsole error text in pastebin
[01:17] <sMonk> ok I got dale:x:1000:1000:Dale Winn,,,:/home/dale:/bin/bash
[01:18] <Jim_Morrison> ciao
[01:18] <Jim_Morrison> speak italian ?
[01:18] <Jim_Morrison> pls
[01:18] <Manden> chown -f 1000.1000 /mnt/workhome/dale
[01:18] <prince_jammys> yeah, your 1000 is the default
[01:18] <prince_jammys> try that
[01:18] <Manden> chown won't check for the username, and it should work
[01:18] <sMonk> ok
[01:18] <sMonk> I think it worked.. checking
[01:18] <Manden> ls -ld /mnt/workhome/dale
[01:19] <derdui> derdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ ./flashplayer-installer
[01:19] <derdui> bash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory
[01:19] <derdui> derdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ cd /home/derdui/Desktop/install_flashplayer_9_linux
[01:19] <derdui> bash: cd: /home/derdui/Desktop/install_flashplayer_9_linux: No such file or directory
[01:19] <derdui> derdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ ./flashplayer-installer
[01:19] <derdui> bash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory
[01:19] <sMonk> drwxrwxrwx 4 root root 4096 2007-12-02 00:32 /mnt/workhome
[01:19] <derdui> derdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ cd desktop
[01:19] <Manden> lol
[01:19] <derdui> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[01:19] <derdui> derdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ flashplayer-installer
[01:19] <derdui> bash: flashplayer-installer: command not found
[01:19] <derdui> derdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ ./flashplayer-installer
[01:19] <derdui> bash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory
[01:19] <derdui> derdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$
[01:20] <Manden> ok just reboot and sudo like prince_jammys said
[01:20] <prince_jammys> sMonk: try it from recovery and come back
[01:20] <mrunagi> derdui: wow flood?
[01:20] <Jim_Morrison> can we help me ?
[01:20] <mrunagi> !paste
[01:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:20] <derdui> sorry, thought i had copied the link from the browser^^
[01:20] <sMonk> ok... wish me luck   so it will be   sudo chown dale:dale /home
[01:20] <prince_jammys> sMonk: you will be able to use your name instead of UID
[01:20] <sMonk> ??
[01:20] <mrunagi> what irc client do you use derdui
[01:20] <prince_jammys> that should work
[01:21] <prince_jammys> sMonk: come back with live cd if things don't work
[01:21] <sMonk> ok
[01:21] <sMonk> c'ya
[01:21] <prince_jammys> good luck
[01:21] <derdui> the konversation^^
[01:21] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | derdui
[01:21] <ubotu> derdui: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:21] <Manden> prince_jammys:  Is Kubuntu chown different? Can you set ownership using UID?
[01:22] <Manden> I'm not using Kubuntu
[01:22] <prince_jammys> Manden: i've never done it
[01:22] <prince_jammys> Manden: ubuntu?
[01:22] <Manden> sMonk started in a different channel and moved here.
[01:22] <Manden> No SuSE.  I've thought about trying Kubuntu though.  SuSE is getting to be unstable.
[01:22] <prince_jammys> Manden: the kde desktop wouldn't matter
[01:23] <Manden> I know, that's where he asked the question though, and I was in it trying to help him.
[01:23] <prince_jammys> well let me try it
[01:23] <prince_jammys> i'll chown something
[01:23] <prince_jammys> i'll do my homedir
[01:23] <prince_jammys> joke
[01:23] <Manden> lol
[01:23] <BluesKaj> derdui, I repeat ,  cd /home/derdui/desktop , then type, ./flashplayer-installer
[01:23] <Manden> i did touch test
[01:23] <ieroglif> hi all
[01:23] <Manden> sudo chown etc..
[01:23] <prince_jammys> worked
[01:24] <ieroglif> русские тут е? =)
[01:24] <Manden> strange
[01:24] <BluesKaj> !ru
[01:24] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[01:24] <Manden> Someone told me today that you can't login as root on Kubuntu, is that true?
[01:25] <prince_jammys> you CAN but not by default
[01:25] <prince_jammys> it comes with no root passwd
[01:25] <sMonk> Thank you guys!!!!
[01:25] <prince_jammys> the preferred way is with sudo
[01:25] <sMonk> I'm in my system
[01:25] <prince_jammys> sMonk: success?
[01:25] <BluesKaj> Manden, you can , but you shouldn't
[01:25] <sMonk> *high 5*
[01:25] <Daisuke-Ido> there is also virtually NO reason that you would or should EVER need to.
[01:25] <Manden> You know what.  I just checked back.  He did ls on /mnt/workhome not /mnt/workhome/dale. It probabl worked
[01:25] <prince_jammys> good
[01:26] <prince_jammys> Manden: yeah that whole mounted home thing might have messed it up
[01:26] <Manden> sMonk: sweet.  Now you should change the permissions on your /home/dale files
[01:26] <sMonk> Manden Prince if you're ever in Ontario Canada, I owe ya a beer
[01:26] <sMonk> ok, how do I do that
[01:26] <prince_jammys> Manden: i don't think he did anything recursive
[01:26] <sMonk> chmod 755 /home
[01:26] <Manden> he did ;(
[01:27] <sMonk> ?
[01:27] <Manden> Someone suggested that he do chmod -R 755 /home/dale, which was bad in the first place.  He did chmod 777 -R /home.
[01:27] <prince_jammys> ls -ld /home
[01:27] <sMonk> drwxrwxrwx 4 dale dale 4096 2007-12-01 19:32 /home
[01:28] <derdui> it doesnt work blueskaj
[01:28] <prince_jammys> sudo chown 755 /home
[01:28] <sMonk> chown? not chmod?
[01:28] <tekteen> prince_jammys: it is chmod
[01:28] <prince_jammys> chmod, sorry yeah
[01:28] <Manden> needs to chown root.root too
[01:28] <prince_jammys> yes
[01:29] <sMonk> drwxr-xr-x 4 dale dale 4096 2007-12-01 19:32 /home
[01:29] <prince_jammys> sudo chown root:root /home
[01:29] <BluesKaj> sMonk, where in ontario ?
[01:29] <sMonk> Simcoe
[01:29] <sMonk> prince_jammys: you just got me to change it to dale.dale tho
[01:29] <BluesKaj> !flashissues | derdui
[01:29] <Ahmuck> Suse is getting unstable !?  and i wonder why
[01:29] <ubotu> derdui: The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[01:29] <prince_jammys> no, that should be your users home
[01:30] <Manden> sMonk: You should have changed /home/dale to dale:dale
[01:30] <Manden> Ahmuck: Because they add a bunch of unstable junk to it.
[01:30] <prince_jammys> sMonk: your /home should be root:root and your /home/dale should be dale:dale
[01:30] <prince_jammys> sMonk: which i bet it is, if you're logged in as dale
[01:30] <Ahmuck> you mean since ms has got their hand in the pie
[01:30] <BluesKaj> just west of sudbury here, sMonk
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i think xfce is going to be my new DE for a while
[01:31] <sMonk> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2007-12-01 19:32 /home
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i just...  can't get used to kde again :(
[01:31] <Manden> Novell owns SuSE. MS supports Novell.  MS has nothing to do with it's development.
[01:31] <prince_jammys> sMonk: good
[01:31] <sMonk> drwxrwxrwx 63 dale dale 4096 2008-02-24 20:24 /home/dale
[01:31] <prince_jammys> sMonk: sudo chmod 755 /home/dale
[01:31] <sMonk> drwxr-xr-x 63 dale dale 4096 2008-02-24 20:24 /home/dale
[01:32] <prince_jammys> good
[01:32] <mrunagi> does ubuntu have any language learning software namely german?
[01:32] <prince_jammys> sMonk: now ls -l ~
[01:32] <Daisuke_Ido> so is there a /home/dale/gribble/aka/rusty/shackleford ?
[01:32] <sMonk> BluesKaj: almost brothers.. lol
[01:32] <Manden> He did a -R do /home/dale.  You can use find to recursively find directories and files and give them different permissions, but as long as /home/dale is 755 I think it should be ok.
[01:32] <derdui> ok i tried it with apt-get purge ..... what should i type to install the flashplayer nonfree?
[01:32] <prince_jammys> sMonk: are all your user's files rwxrwxrwx ?
[01:32] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, i'm tired, i'm walking away with my head hung in shame now
[01:32] <tekteen> !flash|derdui
[01:32] <ubotu> derdui: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:32] <sMonk> yes
[01:32] <BluesKaj> parents lived in simcoe for a while , sMonk ...nice town
[01:33] <tekteen> ?
[01:33] <sMonk> BluesKaj: thanks
[01:33] <sMonk> prince_jammys: yes
[01:33] <playstation3> i have problems with installing Firefox on Kubuntu 7.10 .. any tutorials ?
[01:33] <tekteen> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree        : derdui
[01:33] <prince_jammys> Manden: do you think he should change all his files to 755?
[01:34] <BluesKaj> playstation3, use adept
[01:34] <Manden> no, he won't be able to see directories then
[01:34] <prince_jammys> ?
[01:34] <Manden> Directories need execute permission to be listed
[01:34] <playstation3> adept gibin errorrs
[01:34] <prince_jammys> oh right, because the group is restricted
[01:34] <derdui> thanks tekteen
[01:34] <playstation3> giving errors
[01:34] <tekteen> derdui: np
[01:34] <prince_jammys> sMonk: you're logged in as dale, right?
[01:34] <Manden> sMonk: cd ~
[01:35] <sMonk> OK, so this don't happen again.. how do I give myself vbox permission
[01:35] <sMonk> yes
[01:35] <Manden> and type find -type d -exec chmod 711 \{\} \;
[01:35] <sMonk> yes I am
[01:35] <Manden> that change permissions on all directories in your home folder
[01:35] <BluesKaj> flashplugin for firefox derdui ...why didn't you say so ?
[01:35] <prince_jammys> sMonk: do that
[01:35] <derdui> ist doesnt work tekteen^^
[01:36] <sMonk> I did.. I have some txt tho.. hold on
[01:36] <playstation3> i downloaded tar.gz file firefox3b3 , extracted it to /opt so whats next ?
[01:36] <derdui> ive restartet the ff...
[01:36] <tekteen> derdui: for firefox?
[01:36] <derdui> yes^^
[01:36] <tekteen> derdui: go to a website with flash
[01:36] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57283/
[01:36] <tekteen> derdui: then click "Install Missing Plugins"
[01:37] <BluesKaj> derdui, pls explain ..it doesn't work ...how do you know it doesn't work . What are you doing that tells you that ?
[01:37] <prince_jammys> sMonk: cuz of sudo
[01:37] <sMonk> ok
[01:37] <Manden> who owns those files?
[01:37] <sMonk> still good then
[01:37] <sMonk> I'm the only user on this computer so me
[01:37] <Manden> It may be root
[01:38] <Manden> ls -ld ./RealPlayer
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> playstation3» run /opt/firefox/firefox most likely..... there is an executable with int htere (if its a precompiled binary)
[01:38] <prince_jammys> that's right, otherwise you wouldn't get errors
[01:38] <derdui> okay, iam a dick....
[01:38] <Manden> If it were me, I would just remove RealPlayer ;)
[01:38] <prince_jammys> sMonk: can you view the contents of one of your dirs?
[01:38] <prince_jammys> of course you can 777
[01:39] <BluesKaj> yeah realplayer ? who needs it anyway
[01:39] <derdui> ive turned javascript of.....
[01:39] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ls -l ~ and paste
[01:39] <sMonk> drwxrwxrwx 11 root root 4096 2007-12-19 22:19 ./RealPlayer
[01:39] <tekteen> derdui: lol
[01:39] <prince_jammys> sudo chown -R dale:dale /home/dale
[01:39] <Manden> wait
[01:39] <prince_jammys> ok
[01:39] <derdui> but thank you all:D
[01:39] <Manden> Why is it not dale already?
[01:39] <prince_jammys> Manden: because no -R earlier
[01:40] <quocdai_> !build-essential
[01:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[01:40] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57285/
[01:40] <Manden> But he never changed his ownerships earlier, just permissions
[01:40] <prince_jammys> Manden changed the owner of /home/dale only, not subdirs
[01:40] <playstation3> nosrednaekim : error ; /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[01:40] <prince_jammys> what a mess
[01:41] <sMonk> your tellin' me
[01:41] <Manden> I know, but he never changed the owner to root in the first place.  I think RealPlayer maybe install with root as owner.  I don't have it installed so I don't know
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> prince_jammys» oh.. thats easy to fix
[01:41] <prince_jammys> sMonk: looks good
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> whats the home dir, and what user does he want it to be owned by?
[01:41] <prince_jammys> nosrednaekim: you're coming in at the tail end of the mess
[01:42] <prince_jammys> it's done
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> ah ok:)
[01:42] <sMonk> thanks tho nosred
[01:42] <Manden> Anyone have RealPlayer that can tell me the default permissions of /home/user/RealPlayer?
[01:42] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ok now you want to be in the group vbox or whataver
[01:42] <stdin> playstation3: try "bash /opt/firefox/firefox-bin" instead
[01:42] <sMonk> yes
[01:42] <sMonk> please
[01:42] <Manden> well, lets skip that for right now.
[01:43] <Manden> Type this from inside ~ find -type f -exec chmod 600 \{\} \;
[01:43] <prince_jammys> but isn't he done otherwise?
[01:43] <swatto> night all
[01:43] <sMonk> if there is any problems with my permissions, is that why Firefox won't display flash stuff properly? It puts things behind it and doesn't play the flash all the time.. yet sometimes it does
[01:43] <Manden> actually wait
[01:43] <playstation3> ERROR " /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: cannot execute binary file "
[01:43] <prince_jammys> Manden: what if he has executable files?
[01:43] <Manden> yeah, that's why I said wait
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> Manden» chmod does have a recursive flag....
[01:44] <Manden> nosrednaekim: yes, and it will mess up his directories
[01:44] <BluesKaj> chmod +x
[01:44] <sMonk> I already did it
[01:44] <Manden> do this find -type f -exec chmod o-w \{\} \;
[01:44] <Manden> you already set it to 600 ?
[01:44] <prince_jammys> 755 is safe
[01:44] <sMonk> when you said type this.. I copied it and hit enter
[01:45] <Manden> damn
[01:45] <prince_jammys> sMonk: sudo chown -R 755 /home/dale
[01:45] <Manden> no
[01:45] <prince_jammys> why not?
[01:45] <Manden> then he can't open directories
[01:45] <sMonk> no?
[01:45] <prince_jammys> yes he can
[01:45] <prince_jammys> rwxr-xr-x
[01:45] <Manden> oh yeah
[01:45] <prince_jammys> sMonk: sudo chown -R 755 /home/dale
[01:45] <sMonk> do it?
[01:46] <prince_jammys> yes
[01:46] <sMonk> soon as I did that.. Konversation gave me an error.. now K torrent is too
[01:46] <Manden> They should get over it.
[01:46] <sMonk> LOL
[01:46] <prince_jammys> but it was successful?
[01:47] <playstation3> stdin : ERROR " /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: cannot execute binary file "
[01:47] <sMonk> but this is what happend last time.. then I couldn't reboot
[01:47] <sMonk> how do I check?
[01:47] <prince_jammys> 755 and your user as owner is fine
[01:47] <Manden> that's probably from the 600
[01:47] <prince_jammys> the 600 is the what did it
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> playstation3» "sudo chmod a+x /opt/firefox/firefox-bin"
[01:48] <sMonk> I just tried to do a ls -l ~ and it says permission is denied
[01:48] <Manden> do sudo ls -l ~
[01:48] <Manden> wait no
[01:48] <Manden> do sudo ls -l /home/dale
[01:48] <prince_jammys> sudo ls -l
[01:48] <stdin> playstation3: if that doesn't work, you can always try #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[01:48] <prince_jammys> omg
[01:49] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57287/
[01:49] <therealpxc> hey... does anybody know anything about fixing broken package issues that arise from removing a repository from which you have installed many packages
[01:49] <prince_jammys> lol, owned by user 755
[01:49] <Manden> chmod not chown
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» could you be a bit more specific?
[01:49] <therealpxc> apt seems to think that the candidate versions for many KDE packages belong in the ppa repository
[01:49] <therealpxc> or come from it
[01:50] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ok this time
[01:50] <therealpxc> but I no longer want that repository, so I removed it
[01:50] <playstation3> pff same error
[01:50] <sMonk> LOL
[01:50] <therealpxc> did an apt-get update
[01:50] <prince_jammys> sMonk: sudo chown -R dale:dale /home/dale
[01:50] <sMonk> my linux hates you prince.. lol
[01:50] <therealpxc> but Kubuntu still wants to (re)install the packages from it
[01:50] <sMonk> ok
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» reinstall them? or install older versions?
[01:51] <quocdai_> where can i get the GCC pakage if i dont have internet ?
[01:51] <prince_jammys> sudo chmod -R 755 /home/dale
[01:51] <quocdai_> i cant use sudo
[01:51] <quocdai_> yum
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> !gcc
[01:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[01:51] <prince_jammys> sMonk: sudo chmod -R 755 /home/dale
[01:51] <quocdai_> !gcc
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> !packages | quocdai_
[01:51] <ubotu> quocdai_: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[01:51] <therealpxc> nosrednaekim: is there any way to reinstall only packages with the phrase "ppa" in the version?
[01:51] <sMonk> prince_jammys: ok
[01:52] <therealpxc> also, nosredaekim: if I try to reinstall them, it tries to reinstall the same old, not-really-there version
[01:52] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ok NOW you should be fine
[01:52] <Manden> well, that took a while
[01:52] <sMonk> lol
[01:52] <Manden> But it works ;)
[01:52] <sMonk> Thanks to both of you
[01:52] <prince_jammys> sMonk: everything should be rwxr-xr-x dale dale
[01:52] <sMonk> yes
[01:52] <prince_jammys> sMonk: the name of the group is vboxusers
[01:53] <sMonk> ok
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» yeah.... just a moment
[01:53] <prince_jammys> sMonk: you can add yourself from the GUI
[01:53] <sMonk> alright, what's it under?
[01:53] <prince_jammys> sMonk: system-settings or kcontrol, depending on which you use
[01:54] <sMonk> ok
[01:54] <sMonk> User Management?
[01:54] <prince_jammys> yes, i think
[01:54] <prince_jammys> check if the name is vboxusers
[01:54] <sMonk> secondary groups?
[01:54] <sd32> once i start a live cd  do i need to keep the cd in the drive, or does it run in memmory?
[01:55] <sMonk> Ok, sorry how do I go about it?
[01:55] <therealpxc> sd32: Ubuntu and its brethren don't load the CD into memory
[01:56] <mrunagi> how can i get a mounted cd sit on the desktop like a real cd does
[01:56] <sd32> therealpxc: ok thanks
[01:56] <sMonk> I got the user Management up, but I don't see anything about vboxusers
[01:56] <prince_jammys> sMonk: yeah, add that group in "secondary groups"
[01:56] <quocdai_> i cant browse pakages.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <quocdai_> !gcc
[01:56] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» ok.... in adept_manager search for only package name (uncheck the others), then enter "ppa" as the search term.... show only packages that are installed, the outline all the packages and select reinstall
[01:56] <sMonk> prince_jammys: got it
[01:56] <prince_jammys> sMonk: from the internet, the name appears to be: vboxusers
[01:56] <sd32> so if i take out my hard drive, the live cd wont work?
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> quocdai_» why not?
[01:57] <prince_jammys> sMonk: in a terminal type :   id
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> sd32» it will
[01:57] <sd32> nosrednaekim: ok thanks
[01:57] <therealpxc> nosrednaekim: thanks, but I already tried that. ppa doesn't technically show up in the package name, and I can't find a version tag
[01:57] <prince_jammys> sMonk: is vboxusers there?
[01:57] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57288/
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» ah! ok.... just a moment then
[01:58] <prince_jammys> sMonk: did you save changes in system-settings?
[01:58] <prince_jammys> sMonk: or do it in "administrative mode"?
[01:58] <mrunagi> nosrednaekim: do you know how to get a mounted ISO to put an icon on the desktop?
[01:59] <raylu> mrunagi, automatically?
[01:59] <mrunagi> yes
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» somewhere in the desktop config there is a option for that you want to be shown on the desktop
[01:59] <sMonk> I did it in admin mode.. I selected the vboxusers from the list, moved it over.. hit ok, then close.. and I just opened it back up and it shows vboxusers
[02:00] <Manden> Need to log out in and back in
[02:00] <sMonk> Me?
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» well, synaptic (the Ubuntu package manager) has an option for that.(installed from a particular souce)
[02:00] <mrunagi> nosrednaekim: theres not an option for manually mounted images
[02:00] <Manden> I mean log out and back in
[02:00] <sMonk> ok.. hold on
[02:00] <Manden> yeah, you don't need to restart the computer, just log out of the shell and back in.  Or log out of KDE and back in
[02:00] <quocdai_> nosrednaekim: can u browse it ? the browser warning that it cant be display
[02:00] <sd32> nosrednaekim: does a live cd session need the cd in the drive during the whole session?
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi»  I thought there was an option that said to show everything in /media
[02:00] <prince_jammys> sMonk: weird that it doesn't show up when you did "id"
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> sd32» yes
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> sd32» at elast the kubuntu one does
[02:01] <mrunagi> i dont see that
[02:01] <therealpxc> nosredaekim: excellent. I'd like to avoid installing synaptic if I can--perhaps there's an apt-cache option to do the same thing. if not, I'll just bite the bullet and install synaptic
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> *least
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> quocdai_» yeah.. I can
[02:01] <sd32> nosrednaekim: ok thanks
[02:01] <Manden> The terminal was probably started by KDE, so the user groups would be the same as the ones that started KDE
[02:01] <coreymon77> sd32: are you who i think you are?
[02:01] <sd32> coreymon77: and that would be???
[02:02] <sMonk> prince_jammys: It's there now
[02:02] <prince_jammys> sMonk: it seems that you're set
[02:02] <sMonk> Well, thank you very much, both of you for putting up with me
[02:03] <prince_jammys> sMonk: your /home should be rwxr-xr-x root root     your /home/dale should be  rwxr-xr-x dale dale
[02:03] <mrunagi> am i just missing it nosrednaekim
[02:03] <prince_jammys> sMonk: no, you said it would be challenging
[02:03] <Manden> sMonk: No problem
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» lemme see
[02:03] <Manden> sMo
[02:04] <prince_jammys> thanks Manden
[02:04] <Manden> oops, sMonk: I think you need to change the permissions on /home/lost+found too
[02:04] <Manden> although I have no idea what it's for
[02:04] <prince_jammys> yeah, if anything they're too lax
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» "mounted hard disk volume"
[02:04] <mrunagi> its checked
[02:05] <sMonk> Manden: does it need to be root or dale? and 755?
[02:05] <therealpxc> nosrednaekim: that brings me to the next problem... http://www.robertc.com/pxc/images/misc/adept-screen2.png
[02:05] <prince_jammys> i don't have a /home/lost+found
[02:05] <Manden> mine are root.root 700 , but you should set yours to whatever prince_jammys has
[02:05] <flea> lost+found is per fs
[02:05] <therealpxc> which is what appears upon a reinstall attempt
[02:05] <prince_jammys> Manden: i don't have one
[02:05] <sMonk> should I just leave it then?
[02:05] <prince_jammys> sMonk: what are they?
[02:05] <Manden> flea: Do you know what the default permissions are for ext3 lost+found?
[02:05] <sMonk> owner is root, but it appears to be chmod 777
[02:06] <sMonk> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 16384 2007-12-01 19:26 /home/lost+found/
[02:06] <stdin> should be 700
[02:06] <Manden> sMonk: is your filesystem ext3?
[02:06] <sMonk> yeah
[02:06] <Manden> thx stdin.
[02:07] <Manden> set it to chmod 700 /home/lost+found
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» use apt-get so we can gett a better error message
[02:07] <sMonk> so should it be sudo chmod -R 700 /home/lost
[02:07] <therealpxc> nosredaekim: of course
[02:07] <Manden> do use -R,  there shouldn't be anything in it anyhow
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» what packages are these anyway? kde4?
[02:07] <Manden> don't use -R i mean
[02:07] <prince_jammys> sMonk: yeah no -R
[02:07] <mrunagi> i would also like for my mounted image to show up in storage media
[02:08] <sMonk> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2007-12-01 19:26 /home/lost+found/
[02:08] <prince_jammys> that's 700
[02:08] <sd32> is ext3 filesystem mandatory for linux install?
[02:08] <prince_jammys> so yeah
[02:08] <Manden> Just as a general not, recursive operations (like -R for chmod and chown) should be used with caution
[02:08] <sMonk> I did use -R .. is that bad?
[02:08] <Manden> note*
[02:08] <therealpxc> "pxc@cooldude:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall kate
[02:08] <therealpxc> Reading package lists... Done
[02:08] <therealpxc> Building dependency tree
[02:08] <therealpxc> Reading state information... Done
[02:08] <therealpxc> Reinstallation of kate is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[02:08] <therealpxc> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[02:08] <therealpxc> cute
[02:08] <therealpxc> but not much more helpful
[02:08] <stdin> !paste > therealpxc
[02:08] <Manden> sd32: Distrospecific, but generally you can pick from several
[02:08] <sd32> Manden: ok thanks
[02:08] <therealpxc> sorry
[02:09] <sMonk> I did use -R .. is that bad?
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» are you mounting to /media?
[02:09] <prince_jammys> sMonk: if you did -R i would change it back and then do it without -R
[02:09] <therealpxc> I don't understand why pidgin makes a new line for each thing I try to paste... is that just something of IRC?
[02:09] <mrunagi> nosrednaekim: yes
[02:09] <sMonk> ok, so sudo chmod -R 777 /home/lost   then sudo chmod 700 /home/lost
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» yeah
[02:09] <stdin> prince_jammys: it would only matter if there re files in lost+found, and if that's true then there are bigger issues to worry about
[02:09] <Manden> I doubt there is anything in the lost+found folder, so -R wouldn't do anything
[02:09] <Manden> it's not lost it should be lost+found
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» odd
[02:10] <prince_jammys> sMonk: stdin: true
[02:10] <sMonk> I just didn't want to type the found
[02:10] <mrunagi> nosrednaekim: ive never had a manually mounted iso plant itself in storage media or on the desktop
[02:10] <Manden> OK
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» run "sudo apt-get update"
[02:10] <Manden> if /home/dale/lost+found is 700 root.root you should be ok
[02:10] <Manden> and you should be all set
[02:10] <philphoto> just figured out a problem but I don't know how to fix it:  during an install, /dev/.udev/... isn't created and so i don't have any usb.  anyone know how I might rectify this?
[02:10] <therealpxc> nosredaekim: that doesn't change it, I've done it already
[02:10] <sd32> cause everytime i install linux I reboot and get the dreded blinking cursor :-0
[02:10] <sMonk> I know I can't access it
[02:10] <sMonk> tells me access is denied
[02:10] <sMonk> when I cd to it
[02:10] <Manden> only root should be able to access it
[02:11] <prince_jammys> sMonk: you should be fine
[02:11] <sMonk> sweet deal... thanks again
[02:11] <prince_jammys> sMonk: no prob
[02:11] <sMonk> I really should start hanging out in here more often.. learn this stuff
[02:11] <quocdai_> nosrednaekim: : can u give e pakage link again ?
[02:11] <therealpxc> nosredaekim: yup, it does nothing
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> quocdai_» for gutsy http://www.google.com/url?q=http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNHMLK2AxWFDsxkuW-D_qqHoVjSEnA
[02:12] <therealpxc> or has no effect on this problem, rather
[02:12] <philphoto> any ideas out there with my usb problem?
[02:12] <flea> \pwn
[02:12] <prince_jammys> sMonk: chown  or  chmod -R   <- -- be very careful in the future
[02:12] <sMonk> thanks
[02:12] <sMonk> I will
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» could you pastebin your sources.list?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[02:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:13] <Manden> so how did / get it's permissions changed in the first place just out of curiosity?
[02:13] <mrunagi> nosrednaekim: are you saying that your mounted images put an icon on the desktop and ins torage media?
[02:13] <sMonk> I don't know.. I wish I did
[02:13] <mrunagi> !iso
[02:13] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:13] <sMonk> I think I miss typed something
[02:13] <prince_jammys> sMonk: other than writing scripts and making them executable, you don't need to do much chowning and chmod unless you are a sysadmin
[02:13] <sMonk> I know I was doing a chmod command
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» I think they did before I switched to kde4
[02:14] <therealpxc> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57289/
[02:14] <mrunagi> oh......
[02:14] <mrunagi> does anyone else mount iso alot?
[02:14] <Manden> Well, I'm going to engage in something that involves less intese thought.
[02:14] <therealpxc> nosredaekim: that last one, that's commented out, is the ppa repos that has these packages in it
[02:15] <prince_jammys> sMonk: i think it all began that way
[02:15] <sMonk> it's a dark section
[02:15] <sMonk> lol
[02:15] <Manden> Good night to you all.  Glad you got you box working again sMonk.  Thanks prince_jammys.
[02:15] <sMonk> I don't want to do it again
[02:15] <prince_jammys> Manden: thanks for helping out
[02:15] <sMonk> Manden: thanks!
[02:17] <prince_jammys> let's see what other catastrophe i can involved with
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» that repo does not contain "kate".. it contains "kate-kde4"
[02:18] <sMonk> LOL
[02:18] <sMonk> You should have attempted to help me about a year ago..
[02:18] <prince_jammys> sMonk: i did something like what you did when i first set up linux
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> prince_jammys» lol :)
[02:18] <sMonk> I had vista on my computer, then I put linux on, it deleted Vista's MBR and I never did get it back
[02:19] <prince_jammys> sMonk: on the same system i use still
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> sMonk» haha...i'm not goin to say nothin about that :)
[02:19] <sMonk> Glad to know I'm not alone
[02:19] <Wayfarer> Hey, I'm looking for some help with sound in Kubuntu, mainly, I don't have any
[02:19] <therealpxc> nosredaeskin: strange... apt-cache show kate indicates a version ending in ubuntu, but adept disagrees
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> prince_jammys» your request answered ^^
[02:19] <therealpxc> bbl
[02:19] <prince_jammys> no no i wasn't requesting :)
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> therealpxc» huh
[02:19] <prince_jammys> i suck at sound
[02:20] <Wayfarer> prince_jammys: that is okay
[02:20] <prince_jammys> Wayfarer: how many sound cards?
[02:21] <Wayfarer> I have a laptop, I think only one
[02:21] <prince_jammys> Wayfarer: did the sound ever work>
[02:21] <Wayfarer> prince_jammys: but "aplay -l" lists 2 things
[02:21] <Wayfarer> Sound hasn't worked yet in kubuntu, it does work in Vista
[02:21] <prince_jammys> see, i suck at sound, i don't know what aplay is
[02:22] <Wayfarer> lol
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> Wayfarer» is it a Intel HDA chipset?
[02:22] <Wayfarer> Yes
[02:22]  * nosrednaekim hasn't a clue either
[02:22] <Wayfarer> well damn
[02:22] <Wayfarer> lol
[02:22] <joe2370> I'm doing a dist upgrade and I got a segfault in the middle of installing debconf.  Now debconf is in an inconsistent state.  What to do?
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> i'm a great guesser though
[02:22] <Wayfarer> lol
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> !inteHDA
[02:22] <prince_jammys> Wayfarer: step one is to assemble a good irc question for you :)
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intehda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> !intelHDA
[02:22] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:23] <prince_jammys> Wayfarer: number of cards, and exact card
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> see? eureka! guessing works
[02:23] <prince_jammys> Wayfarer: cuz i suck at sound but i'm great at google
[02:23] <raylu> joe2370, try dpkg --configure -a
[02:23] <Wayfarer> ahhhh
[02:23] <raylu> (with sudo)
[02:23]  * nosrednaekim is the same
[02:23] <Wayfarer> hang on, reading what ubotu sent me
[02:23] <Wayfarer> brb
[02:23] <joe2370> raylu: naturally.  thanks, trying it now
[02:23] <prince_jammys> Wayfarer: yeah that looks promising
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> that has fixed soo many problems...
[02:24]  * nosrednaekim hugs the bot
[02:24] <philphoto> problem with usb:  installer is not creating udev .   how can I fix this?
[02:24] <raylu> what installer?
[02:24] <joe2370> raylu: database locked by another process.  looks like I need to quit the gui upgrade tool.
[02:24] <philphoto> iso image
[02:24] <root_______> hola
[02:24] <raylu> huh? why are you installing an iso?
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> joe2370» indeed.
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> joe2370» you can resume it later
[02:25] <philphoto> no, no.  installing Kubuntu
[02:25] <raylu> oh
[02:25] <prince_jammys> ah, mr underscore again
[02:25] <root_______> alguien habla español
[02:25] <philphoto> when i did the install udev is not created and I have no usb
[02:25] <prince_jammys> !es | root_______
[02:25] <ubotu> root_______: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:25] <joe2370> ok, the warning message is a bit ominous: "You are strongly adviced [sic] to resume the upgrade"
[02:26] <raylu> wait...what is udev? i have /dev/usb*, but no udev
[02:26] <raylu> joe2370, is this feisty to gutsy?
[02:26] <joe2370> raylu: upgrading to gutsy, I think
[02:26] <raylu> o.0
[02:26] <philphoto> a module.  it should be there
[02:26] <joe2370> still locked
[02:26] <mrunagi> does anyone mount iso's often?
[02:26] <philphoto> I have no usbdevfs either
[02:27] <Daisuke-Laptop> !iso | mrunagi
[02:27] <ubotu> mrunagi: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:27] <mrunagi> Daisuke-Laptop: that factoid doesnt help me
[02:27] <mrunagi> id like to have a device icon in my storage media and on my desktop for the iso
[02:29] <Daisuke-Laptop> so create one
[02:29] <playstation3> i m trying to install firefox on playstation3 , is it compatible ?
[02:29] <Daisuke-Laptop> playstation3: um...  kubuntu on ps3?
[02:29] <mrunagi> i swear all of my questions i ever have in here are never explained easily
[02:30] <mrunagi> sure i could put a link on the desktop and in storage media to the folder for the iso..........id LIKE for it to act like an ACTUAL device
[02:30] <joe2370> does dpkg have a lockfile or something?  It still says "status database is locked by another process"
[02:30] <Daisuke-Laptop> i wouldn't have the slightest clue how to go about that, sorry
[02:30] <Daisuke-Laptop> !aptfix | joe2370
[02:30] <ubotu> joe2370: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:31] <mrunagi> no one does Daisuke-Laptop =*(
[02:31] <prince_jammys> i *think* you can do that playstation3
[02:31] <playstation3> kubuntu 7.10 on ps3 yes
[02:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> neat
[02:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> the ps3 becomes more of a hobbyist's machine every day
[02:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> eventually i may buy one :D
[02:31] <philphoto> anyone know how I can fix udev?
[02:31] <prince_jammys> pretty soon you'll be able to install ubuntu on a microwave oven
[02:31] <mrunagi> im not impressed with ps3 myself
[02:32] <mrunagi> i installed it on my toaster
[02:32] <joe2370> Daisuke-Laptop: that seems to have helped, though "Errors were encountered while processing" a few packages.
[02:32] <mrunagi> it even has wireless
[02:32] <mrunagi> i watched a bluray on it last night
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> root_______» lol... its hilarious how many peoplerun X as root....not real smart there
[02:32] <mrunagi> i run everything as root
[02:32] <Daisuke-Laptop> nosrednaekim: two words: "honey pot"
[02:32] <prince_jammys> especially all the people who run X as root______________________________
[02:32] <mrunagi> i want to cripple my machine
[02:32] <Daisuke-Laptop> brb
[02:32] <playstation3> help meee
[02:32] <mrunagi> how do i run x as root
[02:32] <philphoto> I installed Xfce on my swiss army knife
[02:33] <prince_jammys> yes, that's doable
[02:33] <mrunagi> why would you want to run kubuntu on a ps3
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> philphoto» yup :)
[02:33] <mrunagi> philphoto: actually..............
[02:33] <mrunagi> philphoto: i really did install kubuntu on my swiss army knife
[02:33] <mrunagi> philphoto: my swiss army knife has a usb drive on it
[02:34] <philphoto> sweet!
[02:34] <mrunagi> how funny
[02:34] <prince_jammys> there's a how to somewhere
[02:34] <mrunagi> but you know what would be great????????
[02:34] <playstation3> i followed instructions on ths page : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html .. but nothing appears on shortcuts menu
[02:34] <mrunagi> if i could get kubuntu to see mounted iso as a device
[02:34] <playstation3> i cant run on shell also
[02:35] <joe2370> ok, I have run dpkg --configure -a with (more or less) success.  Now do I `apt-get dist-upgrade` or something to continue upgrading?
[02:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's better
[02:35] <philphoto> so no one knows how I fix the lack of udev on my machine?
[02:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> for some reason, whenever i'm using a gtk+ based desktop environment, QT apps don't adhere to font dpi settings
[02:36] <playstation3> i have dpkg error also : E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:37] <nosredna_ekim> philphoto» get the swiss army knife blade out of your USB port ;)
[02:37] <joe2370> Daisuke_Laptop: so is my next move `apt-get dist-upgrade` or something?
[02:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:38] <philphoto> nosredna_ekim:  I'm about to funnel a cola into my last working hdd
[02:38] <joe2370> or should I try installing the new version on top of this one?
[02:39] <mrunagi> is kopete ever going to work?
[02:39] <prince_jammys> joe2370: if you have a /home partition, that would be ideal. you can also do the upgrade with the above commands
[02:40] <joe2370> prince_jammys: ah, didn't notice Daisuke's reply.
[02:40] <joe2370> thanks
[02:40] <prince_jammys> joe2370: or if you have your /home backed up
[02:40] <joe2370> prince_jammys: is there really a risk of trashing /home?
[02:40] <nosredna_ekim> mrunagi» did you run a system update?
[02:40] <nosredna_ekim> joe2370» no
[02:40] <mrunagi> not recently
[02:41] <prince_jammys> joe2370: no
[02:41] <nosredna_ekim> mrunagi» are you trying to use MSN?
[02:41] <philphoto> have fun.  gonna try another channel
[02:41] <mrunagi> kopete crashes on me alot but yes msn is  namely one time it crashes
[02:41] <prince_jammys> joe2370: it's just that clean installs are less trouble prone.  i did an upgrade (not clean) and it worked
[02:41] <joe2370> step 2 (upgrade) failed due to unmet dependencies. :-/
[02:41] <Wayfarer> rebooting after compiling
[02:42] <Wayfarer> shall we see if I have sound?????
[02:42] <Wayfarer> Woooooooo
[02:42] <Wayfarer> brb
[02:42] <prince_jammys> i have to remember !intelhda
[02:42] <nosredna_ekim> prince_jammys» yeah.. its awesome :)
[02:42] <prince_jammys> nosredna_ekim: you know there''s a few new ubotu factoids
[02:42] <mrunagi> heh
[02:42] <mrunagi> nosredna_ekim: do you know how to fix it?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> i even wrote a little script for a friend to install the latest alsa drivers for him.  - taken from the info on !intelhda
[02:42] <prince_jammys> !filenames | nosredna_ekim
[02:43] <ubotu> nosredna_ekim: File names in Ubuntu are case sensitive, MyFile is not the same as myfile, and if you put spaces in there and use a console you need to "escape" the space, thus "gedit My\ File.txt"
[02:43] <Dr_willis> gedit 'whatever file' also works. :)
[02:43] <nosredna_ekim> mrunagi» latest kopete shouldn't crash on MSN
[02:43] <nosredna_ekim> prince_jammys» I know:)
[02:43] <prince_jammys> !3rdparty
[02:43] <ubotu> Packages contained in 3rd party repositories are not included in Ubuntu for a reason. Whether this be poor packaging standards, bugs or malicious authors. You should trust the maintainers of these repositories before using them. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297814 for consequences.
[02:45] <prince_jammys> just spreading the word
[02:45] <mrunagi> nosredna_ekim: apt-get says kopete is newest version
[02:46] <playstation3> How can i solve this error ? ??? "" dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): """
[02:46] <mrunagi> nosredna_ekim: id like to be able to use my webcam with kopete
[02:47] <spyd3r> hello
[02:48] <spyd3r> is there anyone here?
[02:49] <prince_jammys> hello
[02:49] <spyd3r> thank god
[02:49] <spyd3r> i need some help
[02:49] <prince_jammys> there's always someone here
[02:49] <spyd3r> lol
[02:49] <spyd3r> i can't figure it out!
[02:49] <spyd3r> lol
[02:49] <prince_jammys> what is it?
[02:49] <spyd3r> my first time trying to use kubuntu
[02:49] <spyd3r> I don't know how to install
[02:49] <spyd3r> or anything really
[02:50] <Wayfarer> No sound
[02:50] <spyd3r> and the forums areno help at all
[02:50] <Wayfarer> ****
[02:50] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: is kubuntu installed?
[02:50] <spyd3r> no i have sound
[02:50] <Wayfarer> I don't have sound, lol
[02:50] <mrunagi> what is kubuntu
[02:50] <spyd3r> I just can't figure the os out at all
[02:50] <prince_jammys> ha
[02:50] <Wayfarer> Kubuntu = Ubuntu but using KDE desktop instead of Gnome
[02:50] <spyd3r> yes I have kubuntu installed
[02:50] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: let me introduce you to the bot
[02:50] <spyd3r> I don't know how to install onto it
[02:50] <prince_jammys> !elaborate | spyd3r
[02:50] <ubotu> spyd3r: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[02:50] <mrunagi> !help | spyd3r
[02:50] <ubotu> spyd3r: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:51] <spyd3r> I just need some answers..............
[02:51] <Wayfarer> ubotu: I don't have sound still
[02:51] <spyd3r> I can figure most of it out on my own
[02:51] <prince_jammys> i need some questions
[02:51] <Wayfarer> so, all knowing, doesn't quite do it
[02:51] <Wayfarer> :P
[02:51] <mrunagi> lmao
[02:51] <spyd3r> well first off im trying to get the compiz-fusion running
[02:51] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: ok ... is kubuntu installed?
[02:51] <spyd3r> and the guides are not helping me to do this
[02:51] <mrunagi> !compiz
[02:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:51] <spyd3r> lol
[02:52] <mrunagi> next
[02:52] <prince_jammys> ok so it's installed
[02:52] <spyd3r> what ?
[02:52] <spyd3r> im so lost
[02:52] <spyd3r> i never use irc either
[02:52] <prince_jammys> kubuntu, that is
[02:52] <spyd3r> and im kinda slow tonight
[02:52] <prince_jammys> that's ok
[02:52] <mrunagi> spyd3r: what are you lost about
[02:52] <spyd3r> ok well i tried to install mozilla
[02:52] <spyd3r> and it opened it up in something called ark
[02:52] <mrunagi> !ark
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <spyd3r> how do i install mozilla to the system core
[02:53] <mrunagi> all knowing my but!
[02:53] <mrunagi> spyd3r: sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:53] <therealpxc> ark is a KDE extraction tool
[02:53] <spyd3r> that will do it for me?
[02:53] <therealpxc> he probably downloaded a tar.gz file
[02:53] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: how did you install mozilla? did you try to get it from the internet?
[02:53] <mrunagi> im sure he did
[02:53] <mrunagi> no need thoguh
[02:53] <spyd3r> yea see i dont understand alot of this stuff
[02:53] <spyd3r> lol
[02:53] <mrunagi> man i remember when i was new
[02:53] <mrunagi> 6 months ago
[02:53] <spyd3r> ok so that command line will do that
[02:54] <mrunagi> spyd3r: is going to break his xorg, and freak out because it was the end of the world for me
[02:54] <mrunagi> i was like oh, my, god....
[02:54] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: ok.  the way you install most if not all the stuff you want is through something called APT
[02:54] <mrunagi> i break it daily =)
[02:54] <spyd3r> ok
[02:54] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: this is like a central place full of applications for you to download and install automatically
[02:54] <spyd3r> now in one guide it asked me to delete all compiz files for a clean box
[02:54] <spyd3r> i went to do this
[02:54] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: you do NOT need to go and download stuff form the web
[02:54] <spyd3r> and it said i was denied access
[02:55] <mrunagi> spyd3r: do urself a favor, dont dl from the web alot
[02:55] <spyd3r> ok
[02:55] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: hold on
[02:55] <spyd3r> k
[02:55] <mrunagi> slow down a littl
[02:55] <mrunagi> lol
[02:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> prince_jammys: might want to add a "normally" in there, sometimes it's unavoidable, but rare
[02:55] <mrunagi> youre gonna break it =)
[02:55] <spyd3r> probably
[02:55] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: one thing at a time ... compiz first or mozilla
[02:55] <Stoffer> can someone please tell me why my external ext2 formatted hard drive is stalling when I try copying files from it onto my pc?
[02:55] <therealpxc> xorg can be fixed automatically. don't worry about it
[02:55] <spyd3r> ivehad to reinstall this damn os 6 times today
[02:55] <mrunagi> spyd3r: go to the k menu and add/remove programs............go to sources.........enable multivers and universe.............tell me when you are done
[02:56] <mrunagi> why spyd3r
[02:56] <joe2370> "/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libkdeinit_knetworkmanager.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start."  I'm getting this message over and over.  Is knetworkmanager probably broken at the moment?
[02:56] <prince_jammys> spyd3r:  Daisuke_Laptop : true, but let's keep it simple
[02:56] <spyd3r> because i messed something up and had to reformat and partition whole drive
[02:56] <spyd3r> lol
[02:56] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: for the moment
[02:56] <mrunagi> spyd3r: that probably wasnt needed
[02:56] <spyd3r> ok heres what i need
[02:56] <spyd3r> I want it to do the same things beryl does
[02:56] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: ok
[02:56] <spyd3r> but i also need to learn how to use this os
[02:57] <spyd3r> its for college
[02:57] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: ok
[02:57] <spyd3r> and i knwo im going to have a hard time with it
[02:57] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: in that order?
[02:57] <prince_jammys> :)
[02:57] <spyd3r> so im jumping on it 3 months early
[02:57] <spyd3r> actually to be quite honest
[02:57] <mrunagi> !beryl | spyd3r
[02:57] <ubotu> spyd3r: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[02:57] <spyd3r> i need a phone call to guide me through these steps
[02:57] <mrunagi> spyd3r: heh good luck
[02:58] <spyd3r> its easier because im using my windows partition at the moment
[02:58] <mrunagi> you mean you are dual booting
[02:58] <spyd3r> i dont know how to do anything in kubuntu yet
[02:58] <spyd3r> excepot mess it up
[02:58] <mrunagi> neither did i
[02:58] <mrunagi> spyd3r: do yourself a favor
[02:58] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: can you log in to kubuntu?
[02:58] <mrunagi> open a terminal
[02:58] <mrunagi> kdesudo apt-get install irssi
[02:58] <spyd3r> i can but how do i get here
[02:58] <spyd3r> lol
[02:58] <spyd3r> ok??
[02:59] <mrunagi> did you do it?
[02:59] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: ok look you won't be messing anything up.  since you are new to this, do not follow tips and command line stuff from the web
[02:59] <spyd3r> im on windows
[02:59] <spyd3r> i havent logged out yet
[02:59] <mrunagi> omg
[02:59] <mrunagi> why not
[02:59] <spyd3r> because i dunno how to get back to this rom
[02:59] <spyd3r> room
[02:59] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: ok. do you have a user and password for kubuntu?
[02:59] <spyd3r> lol
[02:59] <spyd3r> yes
[02:59] <mrunagi> konversation spyd3r
[03:00] <spyd3r> ok
[03:00] <spyd3r> and whats room name?
[03:00] <therealpxc> #kubuntu
[03:00] <spyd3r> ok
[03:00] <spyd3r> if im not back in like 5 minutes
[03:00] <spyd3r> i blew my comp up cuz i was pissed
[03:00] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: ok you log in to kubuntu and go to #kubuntu.  the irc program you use is called "konversation" and it's the menu with the ....
[03:01] <prince_jammys> he left
[03:01] <prince_jammys> lol
[03:01] <mrunagi> i remember when iw as that clueless
[03:01] <mrunagi> 5 minutes ago
[03:01] <mrunagi> lol
[03:01] <quocdai_> wheree can i download all packages CD for Kubuntu ?
[03:01] <joe2370> In 8 minutes he will give up trying to figure out how to use konversation.  In 12 minutes he will be back (but in windows again)
[03:02] <therealpxc> lol
[03:02] <mrunagi> lol joe2370
[03:03] <quocdai_> where can i download all packages CD for Kubuntu ?
[03:03] <prince_jammys> what do you mean?
[03:03] <mrunagi> !repeat
[03:03] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:03] <playstation3> come on hlp me please
[03:03] <playstation3> Setting up tzdata (2007k-0ubuntu0.7.10) ...
[03:03] <playstation3> dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure):
[03:03] <mrunagi> !help
[03:03] <playstation3>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[03:03] <playstation3> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:03] <playstation3>  tzdata
[03:03] <playstation3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:03] <mrunagi> !paste | playstation3
[03:03] <ubotu> playstation3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:03] <playstation3> what do these mean??
[03:04] <Wayfarer> lol
[03:04] <quocdai_> it mean
[03:04] <joe2370> Is there any way to check installed packages for consistency?  I just did an `apt-get upgrade` but got a lot of messages regarding a kde lib that might be broken. :-/
[03:04] <mrunagi> it means DONT FLOOD THE CHANNEL!
[03:04] <mrunagi> !caps
[03:04] <quocdai_> i want to install more package without internet
[03:04] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:05] <quocdai_> and i want a CD contain those packages
[03:05] <prince_jammys> quocdai_: and you know what the packages are that you want?
[03:05] <quocdai_> gcc
[03:05] <quocdai_> codec for media
[03:05] <Stoffer> can someone please help me figure out why my external ext2 formatted hard drive is stalling when I try copying files from it onto my pc?
[03:05] <spyd3r> oh dear god i made it back..............
[03:05] <mrunagi> quocdai_: do you realize how many cds that would be
[03:05] <mrunagi> spyd3r: are you on kubuntu now?
[03:05] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: welcome back
[03:05] <spyd3r> yes
[03:06] <spyd3r> and totally amazed i did something
[03:06] <spyd3r> lol
[03:06] <quocdai_> i dont know
[03:06] <mrunagi> spyd3r: open a terminal and type kdesudo apt-get install irssi
[03:06] <spyd3r> how do i make my resolution bigger i can hardly read
[03:06] <quocdai_> maybe one
[03:06] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: ok now what is it that you're having trouble with other than compiz?
[03:06] <spyd3r> resolution
[03:06] <spyd3r> way too small
[03:06] <spyd3r> i cantr read
[03:06] <mrunagi> wait
[03:06] <mrunagi> the text is too small or too big
[03:06] <spyd3r> well i can
[03:06] <spyd3r> just not too good
[03:06] <quocdai_> just some standard needed packages
[03:06] <spyd3r> way too small
[03:06] <quocdai_> for Offices
[03:06] <mrunagi> resolution is too high
[03:07] <mrunagi> are you on an lcd?
[03:07] <spyd3r> how do i change it?
[03:07] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: there's an item in the "K" menu called system settings --- it's like the windows control panel
[03:07] <Stoffer> I can access files on it, like songs, for only 10 seconds before it cuts me off
[03:07] <Stoffer> anyone?
[03:07] <mrunagi> !anyone
[03:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:07] <spyd3r> how do i get there
[03:07] <mrunagi> lol
[03:07] <mrunagi> wrong factoid
[03:07] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: there's a icon on the bottom left with a "K"
[03:08] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: that's like the windows start menu
[03:08] <mrunagi> spyd3r: k menu > system settings > monitor and display
[03:08] <spyd3r> it didnt change it
[03:08] <spyd3r> its still very small
[03:08] <mrunagi> what didnt change it
[03:09] <mrunagi> did you change the resolution and apply?
[03:09] <spyd3r> im in display and monitor
[03:09] <spyd3r> and it says it chaged but stayed the same
[03:09] <mrunagi> did you hit apply?
[03:09] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: change it and save it
[03:09] <spyd3r> yes
[03:09] <spyd3r> it asked me if i wanted to keep the settings
[03:09] <spyd3r> i said yes
[03:09] <mrunagi> what is the resolution set at
[03:09] <spyd3r> under administration mode?
[03:09] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: try that
[03:09] <mrunagi> shouldnt have to i dont think but u cant ry
[03:10] <joe2370> how would one determine the name of the package a particular file belongs to?
[03:10] <mrunagi> oh i guess so
[03:10] <mrunagi> didnt change for me either
[03:10] <spyd3r> still nothing
[03:11] <mrunagi> looks like spyd3r is about to get his first lesson on editing xorg.conf
[03:11] <spyd3r> ok
[03:11] <mrunagi> spyd3r: what is the current resolutio
[03:11] <spyd3r> im ready
[03:11] <spyd3r> but do it slow
[03:11] <spyd3r> lol
[03:11] <mrunagi> i will
[03:11] <mrunagi> but answer me
[03:11] <mrunagi> lol
[03:11] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: is the resolution done?
[03:11] <spyd3r> i have it set to 1024 X768
[03:11] <ubuntu> does kubuntu support my Nvidia BFG 8800GT OC?
[03:11] <mrunagi> wait a second
[03:11] <mrunagi> 1024 x 768 isnt all that high
[03:11] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: ok first about IRC
[03:11] <spyd3r> but it was on 1280X1024
[03:11] <mrunagi> ooooh
[03:11] <mrunagi> but it didnt change
[03:11] <mrunagi> ok cool
[03:11] <spyd3r> no it didnt
[03:11] <mrunagi> open a terminal spyd3r
[03:12] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: ?
[03:12] <mrunagi> type kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:12] <mrunagi> and mind the capital in X11
[03:12] <spyd3r> hold on a sec..........
[03:12] <prince_jammys> joe2370: dammit i have it on the tip of my tongue ... can't remember , ask in #ubuntu
[03:13] <Stoffer> this is absurd.  I'm going to have to boot into windows to read an ext2 drive
[03:13] <spyd3r> ok i did it
[03:13] <spyd3r> but nothing happened
[03:13] <mrunagi> what do you mean nothing happened
[03:13] <mrunagi> you didnt get a text editor?
[03:13] <spyd3r> spyd3r@SpYd3R:~$ kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:13] <spyd3r> spyd3r@SpYd3R:~$
[03:13] <ubuntu> does kubuntu support my Nvidia BFG 8800GT OC?
[03:14] <mrunagi> it didnt ask you for your password?
[03:14] <spyd3r> no
[03:14] <spyd3r> and when it does
[03:14] <spyd3r> it usually just does the same thing
[03:14] <mrunagi> same thing as what
[03:14] <spyd3r> like itll just say spyd3r@spyd3r
[03:14] <spyd3r> with my cursor
[03:14] <mrunagi> maybe try just sudo kate blah blah
[03:14] <spyd3r> should i try to restart??
[03:14] <mrunagi> no
[03:15] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: what are you doing?
[03:15] <spyd3r> trying to get it so this isnt hurting my eyes
[03:15] <prince_jammys> how do you unignore someone
[03:15] <mrunagi> spyd3r: did sudo work
[03:15] <ubuntu> can someone answer me? its a yes or no...
[03:15] <spyd3r> you ignored me?
[03:15] <mrunagi> spyd3r: ...........focus
[03:15] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: no, i think you are talking to someone else
[03:15] <mrunagi> lol
[03:16] <spyd3r> spyd3r@SpYd3R:~$ sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:16] <spyd3r> [sudo] password for spyd3r:
[03:16] <spyd3r> spyd3r@SpYd3R:~$
[03:16] <spyd3r> i typed my pass in
[03:16] <spyd3r> but the cursor never moves.........
[03:16] <mrunagi> cursor wouldnt move
[03:16] <ubuntu> spyd3r it never does
[03:16] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: it's not supposed to
[03:16] <spyd3r> ok
[03:16] <mrunagi> are you sure kate isnt open?
[03:16] <spyd3r> just didnt know if it was accepting it or not
[03:16] <prince_jammys> spyd3r: so no one can see how long your password is
[03:16] <ubuntu> spyd3r_ it does it blindly
[03:16] <mrunagi> oh that
[03:16] <spyd3r> nothing is open besides this and terminaal
[03:17] <joe2370> prince_jammys: fwiw, man dpkg revealed I wanted dpkg -S
[03:17] <mrunagi> spyd3r: well then i dunno whats going on
[03:17] <spyd3r> ok let me retry
[03:17] <mrunagi> go to K menu > utilities > kate
[03:17] <spyd3r> im going to exit terminal
[03:17] <spyd3r> and try over
[03:17] <prince_jammys> joe2370: yeah i have that open too, in one of my fifteen windows :)
[03:17] <joe2370> prince_jammys: :-)
[03:17] <spyd3r> ok its open
[03:17] <ubuntu> does kubuntu support my Nvidia BFG 8800GT OC? anyone know?
[03:18] <prince_jammys> !hardware | ubuntu
[03:18] <ubotu> ubuntu: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:18] <spyd3r> its open
[03:18] <mrunagi> spyd3r: did it open from the terminal or did u manually open it
[03:18] <spyd3r> manually
[03:18] <prince_jammys> !enter | spyd3r
[03:18] <ubotu> spyd3r: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:19] <mrunagi> spyd3r: go to open...........and highlight where it says /home/spyd3r and type /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:19] <mrunagi> and then dont touch anything
[03:20] <spyd3r> ok i typed it in
[03:20] <spyd3r> should i say open?
[03:20] <mrunagi> yes
[03:20] <mrunagi> tell me when its open
[03:20] <spyd3r> open
[03:20] <mrunagi> ok open a terminal
[03:20] <mrunagi> !info irssi
[03:20] <ubotu> irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 2796 kB
[03:21] <ubuntu> which version of nvidia driver in envy should i use??? nvidia 8800gt, trying to manual install bc it says hardware detection failed or i am not supported?? wtf? help!?
[03:21] <spyd3r> hold on phone
[03:21] <mrunagi> ok tell me when ur back
[03:21] <mrunagi> ubuntu why do you need envy, whats wrong with restricted drivers
[03:21] <joe2370> pierrot: are you the pierrot that did promise raid hacking?
[03:22] <spyd3r> ok sorry about that
[03:22] <ubuntu> mrunagi: i have a 8800 gt and i cant find any linux distro that will support it... plus i have dual monitors
[03:22] <mrunagi> ok did you open a terminal?
[03:22] <spyd3r> yes its open
[03:22] <mrunagi> spyd3r:  type sudo apt-get install irssi
[03:22] <spyd3r> ok hold on while i type it
[03:23] <mrunagi> ubuntu if ubuntu is going to support it then its going to, envy doesnt make or break support
[03:23] <mrunagi> !envy | ubuntu
[03:23] <ubotu> ubuntu: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:23] <spyd3r> ok?
[03:23] <spyd3r> it didnt do anything
[03:23] <mrunagi> is it installing?
[03:23] <mrunagi> what the heck did you do spyd3r
[03:23] <spyd3r> no
[03:24] <spyd3r> i just typed it in
[03:24] <Rukus> my KDE 3 session wont load. but KDE4 will and Gnome will. any ideas?
[03:24] <spyd3r> hol don ill copy paste tp show ya
[03:24] <mrunagi> we are talking about the konsole here right?
[03:24] <mrunagi> !paste
[03:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:24] <spyd3r> spyd3r@SpYd3R:~$ sudo apt-get install irssi
[03:24] <spyd3r> [sudo] password for spyd3r:
[03:24] <spyd3r> spyd3r@SpYd3R:~$
[03:24] <spyd3r> yea
[03:24] <mrunagi> well im stumped
[03:24] <spyd3r> shell console
[03:25] <mrunagi> anyone know why no command run in the konsole does anything for spyd3r
[03:25]  * not|root blinks
[03:25] <spyd3r> maybe permission settings?
[03:25] <spyd3r> i dont know
[03:25] <mrunagi> sudo gives you root priv
[03:25] <mrunagi> it would say permission denied
[03:26] <spyd3r> it just did as i copy pasted it
[03:26] <mrunagi> huh?
[03:26] <spyd3r> should i try reinstalling kubuntu again?
[03:26] <mrunagi> shouldnt need to
[03:26] <mrunagi> i cant imagine why itd do this
[03:27] <spyd3r> if it d/led itd show up in terminal right?
[03:27] <mrunagi> yea
[03:27] <spyd3r> how long will u be here mrunagi?
[03:27] <mrunagi> till i leave
[03:28] <spyd3r> im going to reinstall it
[03:28] <spyd3r> again............
[03:28] <spyd3r> then come back
[03:28] <mrunagi> if you wish but if its like this on a fresh install it will be this way next time
[03:28] <spyd3r> will u be here in say 30 minutes?
[03:28] <not|root> looks like I've upgraded to 2.6.22-14.  Has the local root bug been patched out of that one?
[03:28] <mrunagi> ive heard alot about this local root bug but havent experienced it
[03:29] <mrunagi> i thought it was only a problem on a public access computer
[03:29] <spyd3r> ill be right back mrunagi plz dont go anywhere
[03:29] <not|root> it is a problem anywhere you have an untrusted user
[03:29] <mrunagi> im the only one on my pc so i guess its not a problem for me
[03:29] <cristian> español
[03:29] <mrunagi> !es | cristian
[03:29] <ubotu> cristian: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:30] <not|root> But I can imagine it would be possible for a malicious website to exploit the bug, but I haven't heard anyone else saying this.
[03:30] <mrunagi> not|root: thats what im saying, my understanding is that it cant be exploited remotely
[03:30] <Rukus> my KDE 3 session wont load. but KDE4 will and Gnome will. any ideas?
[03:31] <mrunagi> you can run kde 3 and 4 side by side?
[03:31] <Rukus> yah
[03:31] <mrunagi> interesting
[03:31] <mrunagi> i might give that a try
[03:31] <saki> >.>
[03:31] <saki> I smell...newb
[03:31] <saki> xD
[03:31] <mrunagi> where?!
[03:31] <Rukus> just clutters your menus
[03:31] <not|root> mrunagi: what I mean is that if there is a bug in flash or acroread or firefox that lets arbitrary code run, then the first code they'll try is the local root exploit.
[03:31] <Rukus> i run gnome, KDE 4 and KDE 3 together
[03:31] <Stoffer> what's a good hard disk diagnostic app that I can run on an external usb drive?
[03:31] <playstation3> How can i solve this error ? ??? "" dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): """
[03:32] <mrunagi> not|root: how can i see if i have this bug
[03:32] <mrunagi> Stoffer: for ntfs?
[03:32] <Stoffer> ext2
[03:32] <not|root> mrunagi: you can try running the exploit code.
[03:32] <mrunagi> how would i do that not|root
[03:33] <not|root> mrunagi: it was linked to slashdot.  though I'm sure a quick google search will turn it up.  just compile and run as user.  works like sudo -s
[03:33] <not|root> but with no password required
[03:34] <spyd3r> mrunagi
[03:34] <mrunagi> whats up
[03:34] <spyd3r> before i reinstall what file format should i use?
[03:34] <mrunagi> ext3
[03:34] <spyd3r> ok
[03:34] <saki> Heh, go ReiserFS
[03:34] <saki> be a man
[03:35] <spyd3r> hold on
[03:35] <not|root> ext3 is not a file format.  It is a filesystem.
[03:35] <spyd3r> im installing now
[03:35] <mrunagi> im sure thats what he meant not|root
[03:35] <spyd3r> ok lemme install it again.......
[03:35] <mrunagi> if you wish spyd3r
[03:36] <spyd3r> i need this to work
[03:36] <spyd3r> lol
[03:36] <mrunagi> i know but you arent listening to me
[03:36] <mrunagi> this is a freshly installed kubuntu right?
[03:36] <not|root> Is there a compelling reason not to just run `apt-get update && apt-get upgrade` in a cron job?
[03:37] <spyd3r> no i had been screwin with it for a few hours
[03:37] <spyd3r> so im going to give myself a fresh one
[03:37] <mrunagi> pl
[03:37] <mrunagi> ok
[03:37] <saki> Not|Root: Not really.
[03:37] <spyd3r> be back in a few
[03:38] <not|root> I guess sometimes package updates have interactive portions.  Maybe that's the reason.
[03:38] <saki> Maybe I should use packages more often.
[03:39] <not|root> heh heh. `apt-get update && yes | apt-get upgrade`
[03:39] <saki> Something about compiling makes me feel...manly.
[03:39] <saki> XD
[03:40] <not|root> saki: tried gentoo?
[03:40] <Stoffer> if e2fsck returns "Resize inode not valid.  Recreate<y>?"  what does that mean?
[03:40] <not|root> Stoffer: it means you have filesystem corruption and it is offering to fix it.
[03:40] <saki> not|root: Actually thats what I run on my server.
[03:41] <Stoffer> not|root, how would that happen, and will I lose any data by allowing it?
[03:42] <not|root> Stoffer: if there was any data loss, it has already happened.  e2fsck is pretty good about knowing what it is doing.  If you want to do a dd backup of the filesystem before attempting to fix, now would be the time.  But minor errors are normal like when a program closed abnormally with open files.
[03:43] <Stoffer> not|root, how would I do that backup, just in case?
[03:43] <Stoffer> not|root, I have this 80gb drive filled with stuff I don't want to lose
[03:43] <not|root> Stoffer: if it were a production server, you would restore from backups.  but if it is a desktop, just apply the fix.
[03:43]  * mrunagi laughs at people that backup when there is a problem
[03:43] <mrunagi> muahahahahhahahaha
[03:43] <spyd3r> well i figured id get kicked out by now lol
[03:43]  * mrunagi sits back in his corner
[03:43] <spyd3r> but its 61%
[03:43] <mrunagi> 61% of what spyd3r
[03:44] <not|root> Stoffer: what command did you run to get this message?
[03:44] <spyd3r> installing system
[03:44] <miki> lol compile kde4 from svn...4 hours
[03:44] <spyd3r> im on my live cd at the moment
[03:44] <Stoffer> not|root, e2fsck -v
[03:44] <Stoffer> not|root, /dev/sda1
[03:44] <mrunagi> were u on the live cd the whole time?
[03:44] <draik> USB 2.0 transfer rate is no more than 700 kB/s (low-mid 600s average). How do I find what's causing this lag?
[03:44] <spyd3r> when i logged out b4
[03:44] <saki> Miki: What proc?
[03:44] <spyd3r> yes ive been on it for about 5 minutes now
[03:44] <mrunagi> i never saw you log out
[03:44] <miki> ?
[03:45] <spyd3r> i was on the actual os for a bit there
[03:45] <saki> What processor are you running?
[03:45] <spyd3r> but i logged out to reinstall remember
[03:45] <Wayfarer> Still no sound
[03:45] <mrunagi> 9009
[03:45] <Wayfarer> any ideas?
[03:45] <spyd3r> whe i came back
[03:45] <miki> 1.8 amd
[03:45] <mrunagi> intel 9009
[03:45] <not|root> Stoffer: an inode refers to a single file, IIRC.  So at worst you will lose one file.  But the resize is ominous IIF you recently resized the fs.
[03:45] <spyd3r> i was on live cd
[03:45] <miki> :)
[03:45] <saki> XD
[03:45] <saki> I wonder how long it would take on mine >.>
[03:45] <Stoffer> not|root, ok i'll just let it go and see what happens
[03:45] <saki> 2.66Ghz Intel Core 2 Quad
[03:46] <miki> but i can tell that kde4 looks great ....works realy fast
[03:46] <saki> xD
[03:46] <Wayfarer> Sound
[03:46] <spyd3r> but you can help me get the compiz-fusion to work right?
[03:46] <Wayfarer> Kubuntu- Intel HDA
[03:46] <saki> Still feels...off to me.
[03:46] <mrunagi> im running kubuntu on an intel 4004 processor how hardcore am i
[03:46] <mrunagi> spyd3r: one step at a time man
[03:46] <mrunagi> where do you go to school spyd3r
[03:46] <spyd3r> im running on an amd dual core athlon 64 5600+
[03:46] <miki> saki: second pc Q6600 4G ram 8800 ultra but no kde4
[03:46] <not|root> Stoffer: shouldn't be anything to wory about
[03:47] <spyd3r> kaplan university
[03:47] <mrunagi> wheres that
[03:47] <spyd3r> its internet based
[03:47] <mrunagi> wtf
[03:47] <mrunagi> =/
[03:47] <mrunagi> ok
[03:47] <saki> Miki: Windows machine?
[03:47] <spyd3r> its a real college
[03:47] <saki> for gaming.
[03:47] <spyd3r> they have schools all over the us
[03:47] <miki> no linux but gutsy
[03:48] <miki> i don't play games...
[03:48] <spyd3r> im going fo rmy degree in info tech
[03:48] <spyd3r> and comp programming
[03:48] <mrunagi> i was considering information technology, im going to go with computer engineering instead
[03:48] <saki> Miki: Whats the point in an 8800 Ultra then?
[03:49] <spyd3r> after i get my bs degree im going for graphics design and integration
[03:49] <saki> Thats just stupid use of resources for not playing games.
[03:49] <miki> for speed ....
[03:49] <mrunagi> speed?!
[03:49] <spyd3r> i wanna make video games
[03:49] <mrunagi> speed for WHAT?
[03:49] <miki> pc ..
[03:49] <mrunagi> spyd3r: graphics design is more web pages and crap
[03:49] <saki> Umm...you can composite at the same speed on a friggin 7800
[03:49] <not|root> iD games invariably run on linux
[03:49] <mrunagi> miki your video card has nothing to do with your pcs speed
[03:49] <spyd3r> graphics design using x frame modelling
[03:49] <mrunagi> if you wanna waste your money miki help my buy a car
[03:49] <spyd3r> and texture design?
[03:50] <mrunagi> spyd3r: that may be a small part of the course, but graphics design is mainly 2d work
[03:50] <miki> mrunagi: what can i put in gigabyte p-35 dq 6 ati 9200?
[03:50] <spyd3r> not what im gettin into
[03:50] <spyd3r> lol
[03:50] <saki> mrunagi: Umm...no it isn't.
[03:50] <mrunagi> saki: ok im just a stupid college grad
[03:50] <mrunagi> saki: my bad
[03:50] <spyd3r> im hopin i can get on with blizzard
[03:50] <saki> I'm an ex-graphics design student who took a specialization in animation.
[03:51] <saki> I did more 3D work than 2D
[03:51] <mrunagi> spyd3r: are you just getting your certificate from that school?
[03:51] <spyd3r> no
[03:51] <spyd3r> im getting a bachelors
[03:51] <Wayfarer> Well
[03:51] <Wayfarer> I'm going to sleep
[03:51] <saki> Night
[03:51] <Wayfarer> to dream of sound
[03:51] <Wayfarer> Stupid HP dv9700
[03:51] <Wayfarer> Night
[03:51] <mrunagi> i dont see bs in information tech
[03:52] <mrunagi> oh there it is
[03:52] <mrunagi> how much is that costing you
[03:52] <spyd3r> around 4300 a term
[03:52] <saki> Not bad at all.
[03:52] <mrunagi> ouch
[03:52] <mrunagi> out of state tuition
[03:52] <saki> spyd3r: USD?
[03:52] <spyd3r> yea
[03:53] <saki> First year of college, 16kUSD
[03:53] <spyd3r> ok install is done
[03:53] <saki> >.<
[03:53] <spyd3r> ill be right back
[03:53] <spyd3r> need to restart
[03:53] <mrunagi> saki: where
[03:54] <saki> Art Institute of Chicago
[03:54] <mrunagi> interesting
[03:54] <mrunagi> thats about how much it cost me for my aninmation degree
[03:54] <mrunagi> plus living expenses
[03:54] <mrunagi> god am i paying for it now....
[03:54] <saki> 16k all together or per year?
[03:54] <mrunagi> the associate was 32
[03:54] <mrunagi> so 16 a year
[03:54] <saki> Ah
[03:54] <mrunagi> i took out way too much for living =(
[03:55] <saki> Yeah, when I go back to college this Fall I should be paying 8k a year.
[03:55] <saki> but then again I switched majors.
[03:56] <mrunagi> im hoping to make it in for summer semester.........and get in state status
[03:56] <saki> !ntfs
[03:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[03:56] <mrunagi> i lived in fl for 3 years i deserve in state
[03:56] <mrunagi> then itll be 4k for the degree instead of 17k
[03:57] <mrunagi> maybe i could go back to school somewhere else and get my bachelors
[04:00] <playstation3> what is the uninstall commmand?
[04:01] <stunatra> sudo apt-get remove
[04:01] <saki> sudo rm /* >.>
[04:01] <saki> Just playing
[04:01] <stunatra> or is it uninstall? I forget
[04:01] <stunatra> one of those is right
[04:01] <saki> Its remove
[04:01]  * stunatra takes note, go with your first guess
[04:02] <spyd3r> ok im back :P
[04:03] <saki> Hax?
[04:03] <spyd3r> mrunagi are you still there?
[04:04] <spyd3r> saki are you any good with setting kubuntu up?
[04:04] <saki> Umm...yes?
[04:04] <saki> What type of question is that?
[04:04] <spyd3r> im a total noob lol
[04:04] <saki> Gotcha.
[04:04] <spyd3r> with no ide of what to do
[04:04] <spyd3r> ok
[04:04] <saki> Okay, you have the OS installed?
[04:04] <spyd3r> i got a fresh install yes
[04:04] <saki> Go grab Automatix
[04:04] <spyd3r> it says i have restricted drivers available
[04:05] <saki> Yes, those would help too, but grab Automatix first, it'll install them as well.
[04:05] <spyd3r> how do i do that?
[04:05] <Stoffer> not|root, Deleted inode 7841 has zero dtime.  Fix<y>?
[04:05] <saki> !automatix
[04:05] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[04:05] <spyd3r> ..........
[04:05] <saki> XD
[04:05] <spyd3r> ummm i need stuff thats easy to do
[04:05] <saki> I suggest Automatix
[04:05] <spyd3r> i know how to use the terminal
[04:06] <Stoffer> lol
[04:06] <saki> www.getautomatix.com
[04:06] <spyd3r> ahhh crap
[04:06] <saki> and then just follow the instructions.
[04:06] <spyd3r> i cant be jumpin everywhere
[04:06] <spyd3r> i dont even know how to install on this os
[04:06] <saki> o.O You are not one with the OS
[04:06] <spyd3r> no
[04:06] <spyd3r> not at all
[04:07] <spyd3r> lol
[04:07] <saki> To install use Adept
[04:07] <spyd3r> gimme windows and ill run circles around most people
[04:07] <spyd3r> linux
[04:07] <spyd3r> no clue
[04:07] <spyd3r> its an alien
[04:07] <saki> KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager
[04:07] <saki> That'll install most basic things.
[04:07] <saki> For the more complex you'll need to self compile them.
[04:07] <spyd3r> ok its open
[04:07] <spyd3r> now what
[04:07] <saki> Well, what do you want to install?
[04:08] <saki> Click the Refresh button at the top.
[04:08] <spyd3r> umm i want to do the compiz-fusion set up
[04:08] <spyd3r> i want the cube
[04:08] <spyd3r> and i need firefox
[04:08] <saki> Alright search for Firefox through the search option.
[04:08] <spyd3r> and to set my screen res back down
[04:09] <spyd3r> ok now which one
[04:09] <spyd3r> theres a lot of options
[04:09] <saki> Find the Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:09] <saki> Right click -> Install
[04:09] <saki> then click apply
[04:09] <spyd3r> i dont see firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:10] <spyd3r> theres a 3.0?
[04:10] <saki> Its beta
[04:10] <saki> don't install unless you want to deal with beta
[04:10] <spyd3r> ooh found it
[04:10] <spyd3r> ok
[04:10] <spyd3r> now what do i do again?
[04:11] <saki> Right Click -> Install
[04:11] <saki> then click apply at the top.
[04:11] <spyd3r> downloading
[04:11]  * Stoffer 's hard drive must really be corrupted... fsck is having a field day
[04:11] <spyd3r> gotta give it a sec
[04:11] <spyd3r> my roomies are torrenting
[04:11] <spyd3r> bandwidth is getting sucked up
[04:11] <spyd3r> lol
[04:12] <saki> Man screw that
[04:12] <saki> Do you have a router?
[04:12] <spyd3r> yea
[04:12] <spyd3r> but they all pitch in for the service with me
[04:12] <saki> Throw DD-WRT on that and do a bandwidth restriction
[04:12] <spyd3r> so i cant just boot em
[04:12] <saki> Yes...exactly. You're not booting them.
[04:12] <spyd3r> a what?
[04:12] <saki> You're keeping your slice of the pie.
[04:12] <mrunagi_> oh my bad spyd3r
[04:12] <mrunagi_> you done?
[04:12] <spyd3r> i dont know how to do that
[04:13] <spyd3r> yea im installing firefox now
[04:13] <Stoffer> is it ok to quit fsck in the middle of a scan, as long as it's stopped to ask you for a yes or no?  I just wanna restart it with a flag that'll fix all problems automatically
[04:13] <mrunagi_> so the terminal works?
[04:13] <spyd3r> not sure
[04:13] <mrunagi_> ?
[04:13] <mrunagi_> hows your resolution?
[04:13] <spyd3r> saki has me d/ling it through adept manager
[04:13] <saki> Kmenu -> System -> Terminal
[04:13] <saki> yeah, might as well keep him GUI for now
[04:13] <saki> Windows spoils people.
[04:14] <spyd3r> ok i got firefox
[04:14] <mrunagi_> maybe saki he wasnt able to change his resolution, im not either so i was going to give his first xorg.conf lesson :D
[04:14] <spyd3r> i need to figure out how to fix my resolution now
[04:14] <saki> Whats wrong with it?
[04:14] <mrunagi_> too high
[04:14] <saki> Can't you fix it through kcontrol?
[04:14] <mrunagi_> tried
[04:14] <mrunagi_> it doesnt change
[04:14] <mrunagi_> i was gonna have him do it in x
[04:14] <mrunagi_> xorg
[04:15] <spyd3r> no its not working throug k control
[04:15] <saki> Odd.
[04:15] <spyd3r> ok
[04:15] <spyd3r> im in konsole
[04:15] <saki> What video card/monitor do you have?
[04:15] <mrunagi_> geforce go 7400 for me
[04:15] <spyd3r> im usin a geforce 6100 card
[04:16] <spyd3r> ok btw mrunagi it said i have restricted drivers available
[04:16] <mrunagi_> enable them
[04:16] <spyd3r> how?
[04:16] <saki> Yeah, he should install them.
[04:16] <mrunagi_> click the icon
[04:16] <mrunagi_> cmon man youre killing me
[04:16] <spyd3r> what icon?
[04:17] <mrunagi_> ok k menu > settings > advanved> restricted
[04:17] <mrunagi_> click the administrator button and then check the boxes
[04:17] <mrunagi_> box(s)
[04:17] <spyd3r> i dont see advanced in the menu
[04:18] <mrunagi_> its not in a menu
[04:18] <mrunagi_> its a button
[04:18] <mrunagi_> er tab
[04:18] <HydrogenF> .toHydrogen()
[04:18] <mrunagi_> at the top
[04:18] <spyd3r> system settings?
[04:18] <mrunagi_> yes
[04:18] <mrunagi_> then the advanced tab
[04:18] <spyd3r> k i clicked on restricted
[04:19] <spyd3r> ok its downloading
[04:19] <spyd3r> theres only one
[04:19] <spyd3r> im sorry if im being a pain
[04:19] <spyd3r> im just slowly trying to understand this os
[04:19] <spyd3r> been using windows all my life
[04:19] <spyd3r> crap
[04:20] <mrunagi_> i have too
[04:20] <mrunagi_> do i sound knowledgeable?
[04:20] <spyd3r> oh kool i thought u got kicked
[04:20] <spyd3r> yes actually
[04:20] <spyd3r> lol
[04:20] <saki> You really should have been dropped into a real version of linux
[04:20] <saki> not linux for noobies
[04:20] <saki> xD
[04:20] <spyd3r> whats wrong with ubuntu?
[04:21] <saki> ...
[04:21] <mrunagi_> its linux for noobies...
[04:21] <spyd3r> ok
[04:21] <mrunagi_> lol
[04:21] <spyd3r> it says i need a restart
[04:21] <mrunagi_> better hurry!
[04:21] <spyd3r> should i do that now
[04:21] <mrunagi_> if u dont kubuntu crashes
[04:21] <saki> Exactly...which as bad as it sounds, you're not learning Linux, your learning (K)Ubuntu
[04:21] <spyd3r> or wait and do more before i restart
[04:21] <spyd3r> this is what the school is teaching us
[04:21] <mrunagi_> saki: hrm.............what do you mean by that
[04:22] <Stoffer> any ideas why "Inode 16386, i_blocks is 141648, should be 133456.  Fix<y>? yes" would be taking and incredibly long time?
[04:22] <saki> Exactly what it sounds like I mean.
[04:22] <spyd3r> ill restart brb
[04:22] <mrunagi_> what part of sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart isnt linux
[04:22] <mrunagi_> or sudo ./configure && make && make install
[04:22] <saki> Umm...the package system, the friendly installer, the way that it automatically updates
[04:23] <saki> and you don't have to do any of that
[04:23] <mrunagi_> interessting.......
[04:23] <Stoffer> mrunagi_, if you want to learn Linux, start with Gentoo   -  but if you want to Use Linux, kubuntu's fine
[04:23] <saki> Gentoo is awesome
[04:23] <playstation3> how can i fix tzdata error ? londonhack does not work
[04:23] <mrunagi_> to tell you the truth, i was attracted to linux because of beryl, i chose to use linux because of apple shake
[04:23] <saki> and I use it quite fine
[04:23] <playstation3> i cant install anything
[04:23] <Stoffer> I just don't have the time to get gentoo working .... that and I kept breaking it
[04:23] <playstation3> help help help help
[04:24] <spyd3r> ok im back
[04:24] <mrunagi_> ok now what
[04:24] <mrunagi_> your resolution
[04:24] <saki> Playstation3: Whats it saying when you try to install something?
[04:24] <mrunagi_> um..........open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install irssi
[04:24] <spyd3r> kcmshell-session needs admin priveledges its askin for a pass?
[04:24] <mrunagi_> what the heck man
[04:24] <mrunagi_> !kcmshell
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kcmshell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <spyd3r> i just gave it the pass anyway
[04:25] <spyd3r> i dunno wat it was
[04:25] <mrunagi_> dont do that
[04:25] <spyd3r> but w/e
[04:25] <mrunagi_> you really are a windows user =(
[04:25] <spyd3r> kde sudo was what brought it up
[04:25] <mrunagi_> oh
[04:25] <mrunagi_> pffft
[04:25] <mrunagi_> i dunno whatever its fine
[04:25] <mrunagi_> did you isntall irssi
[04:26] <spyd3r> no give me the command prompt again
[04:26] <saki> Why on earth are you wanting him to use irssi?
[04:26] <mrunagi_> same as last time?
[04:26] <playstation3> dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure):
[04:26] <mrunagi_> in case x doesnt start
[04:26] <saki> xD
[04:26] <playstation3> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[04:26] <saki> BitchX to the rescue
[04:26] <mrunagi_> otherwise hes gonna reinstall =)
[04:26] <mrunagi_> whats the difference saki
[04:26] <playstation3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:26] <saki> Absolutely nothing, really
[04:26] <mrunagi_> rather whats the advantage of bitch to irssi
[04:26] <mrunagi_> lol
[04:26]  * Stoffer wants all applications to have a "super-verbose" option
[04:27] <saki> I'm just in a mood, so I'm giving you a hard time
[04:27] <mrunagi_> a bitchx mood?
[04:27] <mrunagi_> =x
[04:27] <mrunagi_> x=
[04:27] <playstation3> googled these , tried a lot of command including uninstalling tzdata but no chance , i cant even uninstall tzdata
[04:27] <saki> That was horrible.
[04:27] <mrunagi_> oh cmon
[04:27] <mrunagi_> it was clever
[04:27] <saki> If you were in my office I would have slapt you.
[04:27] <spyd3r> ok when i type my pass in just hit enter right?
[04:27] <mrunagi_> i would have liked it
[04:27] <mrunagi_> yes spyd3r
[04:27] <saki> correct
[04:27] <spyd3r> it installed
[04:28] <spyd3r> continue?
[04:28] <mrunagi_> ok cool
[04:28] <mrunagi_> kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <saki> I wonder if Empire at War would run better under linux than vista...
[04:28] <mrunagi_> tell me when its open
[04:28] <mrunagi_> !vista
[04:28] <ubotu> vista is the new 'operating system' by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows
[04:28] <spyd3r> hold on
[04:28] <spyd3r> it says its got 1 minute left on d/l
[04:28] <playstation3> i think this comand fuckd up my kubuntu " sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32asound2; wget -N boundlesssupremacy.com/Cappy/getlibs/getlibs-all.deb; wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu; sudo dpkg -i getlibs-all.deb; sudo dpkg -i --force-all skype-install.deb; sudo getlibs /usr/bin/skype "
[04:28] <saki> Also, more developers need to support 64-bit with loving imbraces because I need to use my full 8gb of RAM
[04:28] <mrunagi_> !ohmy | playstation3
[04:28] <ubotu> playstation3: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:28] <playstation3> actually i cant run skype
[04:29] <spyd3r> thanx so much guys for taking time out of your day to help me
[04:29] <spyd3r> i really appreciate it
[04:29] <Draco> I've looked about everywhere, what runlevel does NetworkManager start as?
[04:29] <mrunagi_> spyd3r: is it open
[04:29] <Draco> or does it go around sysv init somehow?
[04:29] <spyd3r> not yet
[04:29] <saki> Meh, have fun, I'm just drinking coffee, kicked back at my desk doing a little bit of programming for a portfolio.
[04:29] <spyd3r> the last thing the irssi is still d/ling almost done
[04:29] <playstation3> nobody loves me :(
[04:29] <saki> spyd3r: I'm telling you, put a QoS system on your router
[04:30] <Draco> if so, what do I need to do to disable it? it locks my network card
[04:30] <saki> Its not fair if your roomies are bandwidth hogs and you're all paying equally.
[04:30] <spyd3r> spyd3r@spyd3r-desktop:~$
[04:30] <saki> Trust me, I went through a year with some bandwidth hogs
[04:30] <spyd3r> is it sposed to say that?
[04:30] <saki> and its...garbage
[04:30] <saki> Yes
[04:31] <spyd3r> whoa
[04:31] <spyd3r> i got like 3 errors
[04:31] <spyd3r> but it opened xorg
[04:32] <spyd3r> mrunagi?
[04:32] <mrunagi_> u did sudo
[04:32] <mrunagi_> which is fine but get use to kdesudo
[04:32] <spyd3r> heres what happened
[04:32] <mrunagi_> i knoow
[04:32] <mrunagi_> udi crap
[04:32] <mrunagi_> kdecache and tmp
[04:32] <spyd3r> spyd3r@spyd3r-desktop:~$ kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:32] <spyd3r> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-spyd3r" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[04:32] <spyd3r> Error: "/tmp/kde-spyd3r" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[04:32] <spyd3r> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-spyd3r" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[04:32] <mrunagi_> !paste
[04:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:33] <spyd3r> ok now what?
[04:33] <mrunagi_> interesting that it did that for you on kdesudo..........anyway its ok...........so xorg.conf is open right?
[04:33] <spyd3r> xorg.config is open
[04:33] <mrunagi_> ctrl + f and type 1024 and enter
[04:33] <mrunagi_> tell me what the line is that contains that
[04:33] <spyd3r> not found
[04:33] <mrunagi_> what the deuce
[04:34] <spyd3r> text to find right?
[04:34] <mrunagi_> spyd3r: go to pastebin.org and paste your xorg there i wanna see it
[04:34] <stansmith> hey did yall see that new p diddy makin the band?
[04:34] <spyd3r> how do i do that?
[04:34] <mrunagi_> !paste
[04:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:34] <spyd3r> how do i use paste bin
[04:34] <stansmith> !paste | spyd3r
[04:34] <ubotu> spyd3r: please see above
[04:35] <spyd3r> # xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[04:35] <spyd3r> #
[04:35] <spyd3r> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[04:35] <spyd3r> # values from the debconf database.
[04:35] <spyd3r> #
[04:35] <mrunagi_> no no no!
[04:35] <mrunagi_> omfg
[04:35] <stansmith> LOL
[04:35] <mrunagi_> dude
[04:35] <mrunagi_> you are going to have to be brighter than that
[04:35] <spyd3r> lol
[04:35] <stansmith> LOL
[04:35] <mrunagi_> youre gonna be banned in a heartbeat
[04:35] <mrunagi_> READ! son READ!
[04:35] <stansmith> me?
[04:35] <mrunagi_> !paste | spyd3r
[04:35] <ubotu> spyd3r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:35] <spyd3r> how do i use it!!
[04:35] <mrunagi_> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! READ!
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about read! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <mrunagi_> lol
[04:35] <mrunagi_> omg lol
[04:35] <mrunagi_> i tripped the bot lol
[04:35]  * stansmith casts lvl 3 read on spyd3r
[04:36]  * stansmith + 3xp
[04:36] <mrunagi_> lol stansmith
[04:36] <mrunagi_> haha!
[04:36] <stansmith> ill stop
[04:36] <mrunagi_> no no by all means........its funny
[04:36] <stansmith> haha
[04:36]  * mrunagi_ laughs out loud for real
[04:36] <spyd3r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57296/
[04:36] <mrunagi_> by george hes got it!
[04:37] <spyd3r> still wasnt as fun as when i pasted it directly
[04:37] <spyd3r> lol
[04:37] <mrunagi_> yea like i said, dont do that
[04:37] <mrunagi_> ever
[04:37] <spyd3r> i almost jumped outta my seat lol
[04:37] <stansmith> what is spyd3r even tryin to do?
[04:37] <mrunagi_> unless you wanna be left without fun
[04:37] <mrunagi_> lower the resolution stansmith xcontrol wouldnt do it
[04:38] <mrunagi_> spyd3r: listen closely ok?
[04:38] <spyd3r> ok
[04:38] <mrunagi_> if you ever get into a problem where X wont load 'the graphical screen you are looking at' and you are left with the terminal in your face
[04:38] <spyd3r> btw I haven't done my updates yet either
[04:38] <mrunagi_> i want you to type............irssi..............then type...........connect irc.freenode.com
[04:39] <mrunagi_> that brings you back here with the command line
[04:39] <spyd3r> ok lemme write that down
[04:39] <mrunagi_> it is your lifeline in the 'i dont know what the hell im doing' world
[04:39]  * mrunagi_ giggles
[04:39] <spyd3r> thats all the time
[04:40] <spyd3r> shoot im about to go smoke a bowl here soon
[04:40] <spyd3r> so its about to get real fun
[04:40] <spyd3r> lol
[04:40] <stansmith> o spyd3r
[04:40] <mrunagi> feh........drugs
[04:40] <mrunagi> whatever
[04:40] <mrunagi> but yea dont say that crap here spyd3r
[04:40] <spyd3r> bad eyes remember
[04:40] <spyd3r> im legal for it
[04:40] <mrunagi> youre gonna get banned in no time i can see it
[04:40] <Rukus> if anyone cares to know, its apparently a recent well known bug, that if you update langauge packs, your KDE desktop may not load. thats why mine wasn't i had to choose US english as my language and had to sudo dpkg -r language-pack-kde-en-base language-pack-kde-en  to fix the problem
[04:41] <stansmith> he gonna go back to where he came from
[04:41]  * stansmith uses fluxbox
[04:41] <spyd3r> i have a license to have it in my possession and in my system
[04:41] <mrunagi> ok spyd3r under defaultdepth 24 i want you to paste in something ok?
[04:41] <spyd3r> hold on
[04:41] <spyd3r> i have no idea where that is
[04:41] <mrunagi> for?
[04:41] <mrunagi> ctrl + f
[04:42] <mrunagi> type defaultdepth
[04:42] <mrunagi> SubSection "Display" Modes		"1024x768" EndSubSection
[04:42] <spyd3r> said it couldnt be found
[04:42] <mrunagi> its lying
[04:42] <spyd3r> lemme look for it manually
[04:42] <spyd3r> where is it near?
[04:42] <mrunagi> ignore what i just pasted
[04:42] <mrunagi> its line
[04:43] <mrunagi> line 83
[04:43] <mrunagi> 17 lines from the bottom
[04:43] <spyd3r> found it
[04:43] <spyd3r> has a 24 next to it right?
[04:43] <mrunagi> yes
[04:43] <mrunagi> i want you to add a new line under it
[04:43] <spyd3r> ok just press enter after the 24?
[04:43] <mrunagi> and type.......word for word and including any quotes
[04:43] <stansmith> wait, i dont even  use ubuntu, or kde, am i allowed in here?
[04:44] <mrunagi> yes just push enter
[04:44] <spyd3r> ok
[04:44] <mrunagi> yes stansmith youre good people
[04:44] <mrunagi> and type.......word for word and including any quotes spyd3r
[04:44] <mrunagi> SubSection "Display"
[04:44] <spyd3r> okie dokie
[04:44] <mrunagi> then push enter and put in
[04:44] <mrunagi> Modes		"1024x768"
[04:44] <mrunagi> then push enter and put in EndSubSection
[04:44] <mrunagi> let me know when you are done
[04:45] <spyd3r> ok
[04:45] <spyd3r> thats all?
[04:45] <mrunagi> youre done?
[04:45] <mrunagi> did you do it spyd3r?
[04:45] <spyd3r> 	Defaultdepth	24
[04:45] <spyd3r> SubSection "Display"
[04:45] <spyd3r> Modes"1024x768"
[04:45] <spyd3r> EndSubSection
[04:45] <spyd3r> EndSection
[04:45] <spyd3r> Section "ServerLayout"
[04:45] <mrunagi> DONT DO THAT!
[04:45] <spyd3r> it wasnt big?
[04:45] <mrunagi> anything more than 1 line is big
[04:45] <fignew> lol
[04:46] <stdin> !paste > spyd3r
[04:46] <mrunagi> sigh
[04:46] <mrunagi> is he silenced or is he gone
[04:46] <spyd3r> im sorry im still getting used to this..........
[04:46] <fignew> stdin: like the wind!
[04:46] <mrunagi> spyd3r: dude you have to listen to people
[04:46] <mrunagi> dont paste larger posts meaning if its more than 1 line use paste bin
[04:46] <mrunagi> dont swear dont talk about sex or drugs
[04:46] <spyd3r> I didnt know by doing that it was a problem
[04:46] <mrunagi> i told you before it was.........
[04:47] <fignew> spyd3r: don't sweat it :)
[04:47] <mrunagi> if you arent careful youll be banned =/
[04:47] <mrunagi> lol
[04:47] <spyd3r> 5 lines of text
[04:47] <spyd3r> is not spamming or flooding........
[04:47] <fignew> 6 ;)
[04:47] <mrunagi> to you
[04:47] <spyd3r> i can understand if i did it repeatedly
[04:47]  * stansmith shrugs
[04:47] <mrunagi> to the ops it is
[04:47] <spyd3r> in miliseconds........
[04:47]  * mrunagi is almost done helping
[04:47] <stdin> spyd3r: 3 or more = pastebin
[04:48] <spyd3r> if your just going to get mad then ill uninstall it and clear my partitions............im just trying to set this up and looking for help
[04:48] <mrunagi> spyd3r: im not mad lol
[04:48] <spyd3r> im sorry im newi dont understand the rules at all
[04:48] <mrunagi> hey man its cool......i didnt know them either ive been banned 5 times =)
[04:48] <spyd3r> is that how u wanted it done?
[04:48] <stdin> you were asked multiple times to use the pastebin, hopefully a temporary +q got your attention ;)
[04:48] <mrunagi> mostly for things i didnt think was against o4o but if the ops say more than 3 lines is flooding..........then it is
[04:49] <spyd3r> i didnt know that
[04:49] <spyd3r> u said large files
[04:49] <mrunagi> anyways spyd3r save and close that document
[04:49] <mrunagi> tell me when you did
[04:49] <spyd3r> any other messenger or chat service doesnt do that
[04:49] <spyd3r> done
[04:49] <mrunagi> dont worry about it my man its over with =)
[04:49] <spyd3r> now what
[04:49] <mrunagi> now you have to restart X
[04:50] <spyd3r> restart my system?
[04:50] <mrunagi> remember what i told you to type in case X doesnt start
[04:50] <mrunagi> no
[04:50] <mrunagi> restart X server........
[04:50] <spyd3r> how do i do that?
[04:50] <mrunagi> ctrl + alt + backspace
[04:50] <mrunagi> godspeed =)
[04:50] <mrunagi> lmfao
[04:50] <mrunagi> i hope he didnt misplace a period
[04:50] <mrunagi> we all have to learn the hard way though right?
[04:51] <mrunagi> the first time i screwed up xorg i was in hawaii, and the only person that knew how to fix it just quit........i was devastated =)
[04:52] <mrunagi> hrm.......hes not back yet lol
[04:52] <stansmith> i heard there is this new book about X11 that just came out
[04:53] <stansmith> its pretty good from the review i read
[04:53] <mrunagi> im not too good at it myself
[04:53] <mrunagi> most of it doesnt make sense to me
[04:53] <stansmith> yea, i wish i could tighten up my xorg.conf instead of the default
[04:53] <mrunagi> sad considering i edit my xorg alot
[04:54] <mrunagi> ok hes taking a long time, something must be wrong lol
[04:54] <stansmith> he is probably installing vista right now
[04:54] <mrunagi> lol he already has it installed
[04:54] <mrunagi> i told him how to use irssi in case something went wrong....
[04:55] <stansmith> why not just make a back up
[04:55] <mrunagi> he wouldnt know how to cp
[04:55] <stansmith> o jeez
[04:56] <mrunagi> i guess i could have told him to make a backup first
[04:56] <mrunagi> kubuntu does it anyway
[04:56] <mrunagi> hope he doesnt write over it lol
[04:56] <stansmith> i mean, i was like that once
[04:56] <mrunagi> me too lol
[04:56] <stansmith> but i never came in IRC, cause i didnt know how to
[04:56] <mrunagi> when i first started, when x didnt start i was devastated.......
[04:56] <stansmith> haha
[04:56] <mrunagi> so i reformatted lol
[04:57] <mrunagi> its funny to me now..........but back then.....
[04:57] <stansmith> you really have to want to learn it
[04:58] <mrunagi>  lol ok something is definately wrong here =)
[04:58] <mrunagi> if he cant run irssi i sure hope hes loading the livecd
[04:59] <mrunagi> btw.......dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages ............best command ever!
[04:59] <stansmith> what does that do?
[04:59]  * stansmith uses pacman
[05:00] <mrunagi> it takes your dpk selections and puts it in a text file..........so when you reinstall you can do one command to install everything
[05:00] <stansmith> o...i used to do something similiar
[05:01] <mrunagi> id like to make my own customized kubuntu installation..........but it looks complicated
[05:02] <mrunagi> how long do i wait for spyd3r before i realize he isnt coming back
[05:02] <stansmith> you dont
[05:02] <mrunagi> i possibly broke the poor mans pc lol
[05:02] <stansmith> o
[05:02] <stansmith> lol
[05:02] <mrunagi> lol
[05:03] <mrunagi> i just had him enter a simple entry.....
[05:03] <mrunagi> given i could have had him pastebin his xorg after the entry.........but whatever lol
[05:03] <stansmith> well..i was wondering how you knew if he had irssi or not
[05:03] <mrunagi> i had him install it
[05:03] <stansmith> o
[05:04] <Strangelet> I am attempting to compile a simple window decoration using ./configure --prefix=$(kde-config --prefix), I get an error message. checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! I assume I need to reDL the packages, but I do not know what to DL. What should I do?
[05:04] <mrunagi> hes back
[05:04] <spyd3r3> yea on widows
[05:04] <spyd3r3> ...........
[05:04] <mrunagi> why?
[05:05] <mrunagi> lol stansmith i lost your bet
[05:05] <mrunagi> lol
[05:05] <spyd3r3> it gave me the terminal
[05:05] <mrunagi> and why didnt you log into irssi
[05:05] <spyd3r3> i typed what u wanted but it didnt work
[05:05] <spyd3r3> i tried
[05:05] <mrunagi> what did it say
[05:05] <stansmith> LOL
[05:05] <spyd3r3> you didnt tell me how to get into the room
[05:05] <spyd3r3> it just sat there with status and a blinking cursor
[05:05] <mrunagi> ooooooooooooh irssi doesnt automatically enter #kubuntu
[05:05] <mrunagi> my bad
[05:05] <stansmith> Strangelet, you want the xlib
[05:05] <stansmith> wait
[05:05] <spyd3r3> i tried to relog into kubuntu twice
[05:05] <mrunagi> '/j #kubuntu
[05:05] <spyd3r3> and it gave me the same screen
[05:06] <spyd3r3> the os wont load now........
[05:06] <mrunagi> it did connect right?
[05:06] <mrunagi> no no spyd3r3 the os is loading, X isnt
[05:06] <spyd3r3> so how do i fix this?
[05:06] <stansmith> Strangelet, xorg-dev
[05:06] <stansmith> or libx-dev
[05:06] <mrunagi> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo killall -HUO kdm
[05:07] <mrunagi> -HUP*
[05:07] <spyd3r3> ok do it again without errors
[05:07] <stansmith> the man comes back on windows
[05:07] <mrunagi> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo killall -HUP kdm
[05:07] <spyd3r3> space after the cp?
[05:07] <mrunagi> yes
[05:07] <mrunagi> cp = copy
[05:07] <mrunagi> mv = move, mkdir = make dir, rm = remove
[05:08] <mrunagi> do NOT mistake rm for rename.............i learned that lesson
[05:08] <mrunagi> once.....
[05:08] <stansmith> lol
[05:08] <mrunagi> lol
[05:08] <mrunagi> youll learn quick
[05:08] <mrunagi> :D
[05:08] <spyd3r3> ok ill be back
[05:08] <spyd3r3> im going to try and reload it
[05:09] <mrunagi> so yea spyd3r is going to school for information technology.........
[05:09] <mrunagi> im thinking i should go for the same........if hes that........um...........ignorant?
[05:10] <stansmith> he prob hasnt taken a real course yet
[05:10] <mrunagi> and i mean that in the least harsh sense
[05:10] <stansmith> he might be doing the english or math right now
[05:10] <mrunagi> well he said he learns linux in 3 months
[05:10] <stansmith> lol..you dont really learn linux in school
[05:10] <mrunagi> maybe...........but i havent had formal computer training or education, just my parents business i have been around for 22 years
[05:11] <mrunagi> so maybe i have a good head start to a computer engineering degree
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> you learn linux by using it, not in school :)
[05:11] <stansmith> exactly
[05:11] <mrunagi> id like to get mcse certified and then after working for a while get my ccsn
[05:11] <stansmith> you might learn about it..
[05:11] <mrunagi> hey man im just telling you what he said lol
[05:12] <stansmith> but at the time when they say "cat [file] lets you read a file" your like wtf, why would i want to do that
[05:12] <mrunagi> im desperately trying to get a job and best buy and circuit city would be stupid not to hire me
[05:12] <stansmith> those jobs are weak
[05:12] <mrunagi> i have no job
[05:12] <mrunagi> and 800/mo in student loans
[05:12] <stansmith> how old are you
[05:12] <mrunagi> ill take it
[05:12] <mrunagi> 22
[05:12] <stansmith> o
[05:13] <stansmith> i misunderstood what you said earlier
[05:13] <mrunagi> im trying to go back to school, but im homeless jobless and carless so im in trouble
[05:13] <stansmith> o...so where are you right now then?
[05:13] <mrunagi> if you asked me 3 weeks ago..........in my car.........
[05:13] <stansmith> o
[05:13] <Strangelet> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! Methinks I have to reDL Qt packages, what would I need for this? In addition, in which package could I find "libjpeg"?
[05:13] <mrunagi> but american express lowered my limit so i had to ask my paretns for help
[05:14] <mrunagi> im out of here as soon as i can.........i had to sell my car
[05:14] <stansmith> Strangelet, get the qt lib libraries
[05:14] <stansmith> and the -dev
[05:14] <stansmith> libqt maybe, but im just guessing
[05:14] <mrunagi> ive only used cat for 2 things stansmith.............for a script in gnome and to gget my cpu info
[05:15] <stansmith> i use it a lot, but i try to use the command line more
[05:15] <stansmith> o snap
[05:15] <mrunagi> im going to attempt to install osx on here
[05:15] <spyd3r> didnt work
[05:15] <mrunagi> spyd3r: where are u right now
[05:15] <mrunagi> irssi?
[05:15] <spyd3r> it said file could not be created
[05:15] <spyd3r> no windows again
[05:15] <stansmith> didnt type sudo
[05:15] <mrunagi> sigh
[05:15] <spyd3r> i did type sudo
[05:15] <mrunagi> duuuude you need to use irssi
[05:15] <mrunagi> this will go much smoother
[05:15] <spyd3r> i dont know how to
[05:16] <mrunagi> i told you earlier lol
[05:16] <spyd3r> give me the commands for irssi again
[05:16] <spyd3r> ill try
[05:16] <mrunagi> irssi then /connect irc.freenode.com then /j #kubuntu
[05:16] <mrunagi> lemme make sure thats right
[05:16] <stansmith> Strangelet, why is diddy walkin with a cane?
[05:16] <mrunagi_> yup
[05:16] <mrunagi_> its right
[05:16] <spyd3r> ok
[05:17] <mrunagi> =)
[05:17] <raoman> guys, i need help with my kubuntu gutsy.- my adept manager got stuck.im not able to use it....
[05:17] <spyd3r> i dont need to register a nick or anything?
[05:17] <mrunagi> lol
[05:17] <stansmith> good luck spyd3r
[05:17] <mrunagi> no.........its the same as what ur on now and konversation, just command based
[05:17] <spyd3r> ok ill try it again
[05:17]  * mrunagi shutters at the stress of rebooting is doing to this poor pc
[05:17] <mrunagi> yes..........stress............the jolt of voltage each restart
[05:18] <stansmith> softboots arent that stressful
[05:18] <mrunagi> hrm perhaps
[05:18] <mrunagi> i suppose i shouldnt go up to an AT case and keep pushing the restart button over and over and over and over and over and over
[05:18] <mrunagi> and over
[05:18] <stansmith> ubuntu
[05:18] <mrunagi> or maybe i should just to see what happens =)
[05:18] <stansmith> shutdown -r now?