[07:00] <kory> it's audio that's causing the crackling... or does the crackling start when the PC starts?
[07:00] <max_> is there a IRC room for feisty?
[07:00] <menteck> Dr_willis thanx so much
[07:01] <T3hWiz0rd> how do you install the win32 codecs for kafein?
[07:01] <menteck> the drive installed and worked
[07:01] <RoKFiT> it's crackling from all audio sources
[07:02] <kory> a specific format?
[07:02] <RoKFiT> mp3
[07:02] <RoKFiT> everything really
[07:02] <kory> only mp3?... have you tried ogg or playing a cd?
[07:02] <RoKFiT> video does it too
[07:04] <RoKFiT> why would it not do it in windows, but do it in linux
[07:04] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone? kaffeine with win32 codecs? how to?
[07:04] <RoKFiT> that is the question
[07:05] <kory> what's your sound card?
[07:05] <RoKFiT> onboard ac97 6.1 channel
[07:05] <RoKFiT> nvidia ck804
[07:06] <RoKFiT> does windows have some sort of pop detection?
[07:06] <RoKFiT> does linux detect pops and make them apparent?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> Its possible the sound card drivers are just not well done under linux
[07:09] <RoKFiT> i'm not sure, but i'd sure like to find a solution
[07:10] <max_> anyone using feisty yet?
[07:10] <kory> hmm... have you tried playing with the settings in System Settings -> Sound System applet -> Hardware tab?
[07:10] <RoKFiT> yes
[07:11] <ikirt> i'm going to upgrade now
[07:12] <kory> do you have all the channels active in KMix?
[07:12] <ikirt> have you done so already max_ ?
[07:13] <lee_> hei
[07:13] <RoKFiT> yes I do kory
[07:14] <max_> ikirt: no, but i was thinking about installing it on one of my partitions
[07:14] <ikirt> ok, i'm going to upgrade now
[07:15] <RoKFiT> yeah this is garbage
[07:15] <RoKFiT> i wonder if it's a bios setting
[07:16] <max_> does anyone know of a program that can download mulpiple links off a webpage? (picture links off fourms)?
[07:16] <Jucato> kget
[07:16] <max_> !kget
[07:16] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[07:18] <bbb> ok i'm trying to go from kubuntu amd64 to i386. repartitioning in the installer is not working. i set up a 75 gb primary ext3, a 1gb primary linux-swap.. when i press commit, the ext3+linux-swap say type: unknown
[07:19] <max_> RoKFit: whats the problem your having? ive had some sound toubles, i wasnt in here when you said your problem....state it again, maybe i can help
[07:19] <RoKFiT> i get pops in like all audio playback
[07:20] <RoKFiT> that never happened in windows
[07:20] <unix_infidel> max_: try the downloadthemall firefox plugin or you can write a script to wget certain files off a html page.
[07:20] <RoKFiT> and when i try to newly download songs the same thing happens
[07:20] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: are you using artsd?
[07:20] <RoKFiT> it's on autodetect
[07:21] <RoKFiT> but i've tried alsa with the same effects
[07:21] <RoKFiT> restarting everything
[07:21] <RoKFiT> should i use arts?
[07:22] <RoKFiT> arts isn't an option
[07:22] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: no idea. never had any problems like that using alsa.
[07:23] <unix_infidel> it could be a hardware issue, could be a codec issue, could be tons of other things.
[07:23] <unix_infidel> you'll usually get some more verbose output using mplayer and any media file.
[07:23] <RoKFiT> i believe it to be codec or driver
[07:23] <RoKFiT> most likely driver
[07:23] <bbb> why would i be unable to make ext3 or linux-swap partitions? when i press commit they change to unknown
[07:24] <unix_infidel> least likely the driver actually unless dmg says otherwise.
[07:24] <unix_infidel> bbb: why would you want an ext3 swap?
[07:24] <RoKFiT> what is the prefered driver?
[07:24] <unix_infidel> swap is its own type of fS?
[07:24] <bbb> i don't i just want to install kubuntu
[07:24] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: ubuntu should've automatically detected the hardware and used the proper kernel module.
[07:24] <bioticpro> I just moved a drive from A to B location, changed lilo and fstab, but the block devices all are still called hdb#, can I just rename them, or do I have to remake them?
[07:24] <bbb> i need an ext3 right?
[07:24] <bbb> as main
[07:24] <bbb> and linux-swap as swap?
[07:24] <bbb> but they won't commit.
[07:24] <unix_infidel> bbb: use reiserfs.
[07:24] <RoKFiT> yeah it's on autodetect
[07:25] <bbb> what is that o.o
[07:25] <RoKFiT> also on volume adjust in amarok it pops the pcm line
[07:27] <RoKFiT> is there a software volume adjuster for amarok?
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> dont ask dont tell
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> or were going to wind up in hell
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> wronh chan
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> hehe
[07:32] <RoKFiT> i'll sleep on my problem, bbl
[07:39] <chicago_> i have a problem
[07:40] <chicago_> my keyboard won't recognize my keyboard at all, i am not using a new user
[07:40] <chicago_> i think it's the locales
[07:40] <FreddyM> btw, i'm on a laptop
[07:43] <max_> does kubuntu run well on a laptop?
[07:43] <FreddyM> max_: yes
[07:44] <FreddyM> Jucato: ping?
[07:44] <FreddyM> !laptop | _max_
[07:44] <ubotu> _max_: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[07:44] <FreddyM> err wrong one
[07:44] <FreddyM> but you get the idea
[07:44] <Jucato> FreddyM: pong?
[07:44] <FreddyM> want to help me, it's Admiral_Chicago
[07:44] <Jucato> how's it going Admiral
[07:44] <Jucato> what can I do to help?
[07:45] <FreddyM> can't get my keyboard to recognize on this lappy
[07:45] <seven11> which package do i need for vnc and how do i set it up to see a xp computer on the network (xp has the server running)
[07:45] <FreddyM> there is something wrong with the user settings
[07:45] <Jucato> FreddyM: I don't know anything about laptops :(
[07:46] <FreddyM> do you know anything locales
[07:46] <Jucato> nothing... :(
[07:46] <Jucato> sorry...
[07:47] <FreddyM> damn!
[07:47] <FreddyM> okay thanks Jucato
[07:47] <FreddyM> it's frustrating...
[07:47] <Jucato> really sorry FreddyM... :(
[07:47] <FreddyM> Jucato: it's okay, thanks anyway brother
[07:47] <seven11> anybody uses vnc ?
[07:51] <ikirt> vnc, yes
[07:51] <Fleebailey33> how do fiesty users install wine
[07:51] <Fleebailey33> ?
[07:51] <Fleebailey33> the reposity says edgy
[07:52] <kkathman> is that a riddle or .. Im waiting for a punch line :)
[07:52] <Fleebailey33> well i tried it and wine is not showing up
[07:53] <Fleebailey33> i come from the powerpc world
[07:53] <Fleebailey33> so wine is insteresting
[07:56] <intruder> hi
[07:57] <intruder> i willing to switch to kde, but it seems there is some broken package when apt-geting the metapackage kde its says kdemultimedia won't be installed, does anyone knows a workaround ?
[07:58] <intruder> and the dependency problem goes deep down to kdelibs4-dev
[08:02] <seven11> ikirt: how do i start it?
[08:04] <ayeizajedi> morning everyone
[08:07] <chicago_> !sudo
[08:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:13] <RoKFiT> does the auto-detect audio driver integrate with kmix?
[08:14] <adr1an> my root password doesn't work anymore after I installed the "smbfs" package, can someone help me?
[08:15] <adr1an> in recovery mode the root password works fine
[08:23] <bbb> kubuntu edgy i386 installer is absolutely not recognizing partition types. i usex xubuntu's installer to create a partition table for installation, switched back to the kubuntu cd, and they ALL read 'unknow'
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i have a large lag when I type anything
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> how can i fix it
[08:27] <ayeizajedi> is there a way to change grub from txt to graphic ?
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> ayeizajedi: yes
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !grub
[08:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> actually, i need to do that
[08:28] <ayeizajedi> :)
[08:29] <adr1an> i solved my problem
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> adr1an: how
[08:32] <adr1an> 1 sec and i'll tell u
[08:33] <adr1an> i changed /etc/sudoers for my user having the same permisions as root
[08:33] <adr1an> i did that from tje recovery mode console
[08:33] <adr1an> and that's it
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> cool
[08:46] <intelikey> well i installed the new kernel 2.6.15-27  right over the top of the old kernel 2.6.15-27   and it broke networking and sound.
[08:47] <linux8> test kubuntu irc
[08:48] <intelikey> the break in network was the lack of device node /dev/ppp  i fixed that.    also /dev/dsp was missing i fixed that   but aumix still doesn't work.   it opens/closes in one movement leaving the console without a cursor.
[08:49] <dreamer> I haven edgy-server install with a basic kde installed
[08:49] <dreamer> and there are currently 2 accounts
[08:49] <dreamer> on the admin account, when I open a progrom, it doesn't show up in the taskbar
[08:50] <intelikey> that's hardly a kde issue.
[08:50] <dreamer> on both accounts: amarok doesn't give it's icon in the system tray
[08:50] <dreamer> intelikey: ok, what kind of issue is it then ?
[08:50] <linux8> printer driver? Canon Pixma 1000
[08:50] <intelikey> package management
[08:50] <dreamer> hmm
[08:51] <dreamer> in what way is package management related to that then ?
[08:51] <intelikey> in what way is it not related ?
[08:51] <dreamer> I don't know
[08:51] <intelikey> kde has nothing at all to do with installing software
[08:51] <dreamer> I'm not talking about installing software
[08:52] <intelikey> op i did misread you.
[08:52] <intelikey> ok let me try again.
[08:52] <dreamer> :)
[08:53] <dreamer> so, when I' for instange, open firefox, there is no 'button' in the taskbar
[08:53] <dreamer> haha
[08:53] <intelikey> don't ask...
[08:53] <intelikey> anyway.
[08:53] <dreamer> I just mean running software
[08:53] <linux8> anyone can help me, how to find printer driver Canon IP1000
[08:54] <intelikey> yes   you can right click the taskbar and configure it   set it to display all apps or only minimized or apps from all desktops   it's in the settings.    kcontrol
[08:54] <dreamer> linux8: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45609
[08:54] <cntb> \o
[08:55] <intelikey> @ dreamer ^
[08:55] <cntb> what is feisty herd 1 ?
[08:55] <linux8> ok
[08:55] <Adlai> cntb, kubuntu 7.04 alpha/beta/something
[08:55] <dreamer> intelikey: on the admin account it is set like that
[08:55] <Jucato> !feisty | cntb
[08:55] <ubotu> cntb: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:55] <intelikey> it's  #ubuntu+1  cntb
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Hurd is the alpha
[08:56] <intelikey> as to the amarok issue maybe jucato can help there
[08:56] <dreamer> intelikey: 'show application icanos' is checked
[08:56] <intelikey> dreamer that's not it.
[08:56] <dreamer> hmm
[08:57] <Jucato> what?
[08:57] <intelikey> check another tab
[08:57] <intelikey> Jucato see dreamer  about configuring taskbar   and an amarok issue
[08:57] <dreamer> Jucato: amarok doesn't give it's icon in the system tray, but thu option is checked in amarok itself
[08:58] <Jucato> dreamer: do you actually have the system tray applet?
[08:58] <dreamer> Jucato: hmmm, good point :P
[08:58] <dreamer> let me check
[08:58] <Jucato> you can check by right-clicking on the panel, Remove from panel -> Applet -> System Tray
[08:58] <dreamer> how can I install it ?
[08:59] <Jucato> to add it
[08:59] <dreamer> not in there :#
[08:59] <Jucato> right-click, Add Apple to Panel, look for System Tray, and click on Add
[08:59] <intelikey> Apple ?
[08:59] <Jucato> Applet, sorry
[08:59] <dreamer> Jucato: not there either
[09:00] <dreamer> hehe
[09:00] <Jucato> ?
[09:00] <dreamer> maybe I shouldn't have done this minimal install ;/
[09:00] <dreamer> it's gona be a htpc so I didn't want it to have too much software and stuff
[09:00] <Jucato> there is no problem with a minimal install
[09:01] <Jucato> hold... are you missing the taskbar or the system tray?
[09:01] <dreamer> Jucato: whel the system tray applet isn't in either of those
[09:01] <Jucato> hm...
[09:01] <Jucato> do you have only one panel?
[09:01] <dreamer> intelikey: I have the takbar on that pc setup just like my desktop now, but still no progs in the taskbar
[09:01] <dreamer> the strange thing is also that on another useraccount on that pc the taskbar doen work ;/
[09:02] <dreamer> Jucato: what do you mean? one panel ?
[09:02] <dreamer> Jucato: I'm missing the systemtray
[09:02] <Ash-Fox> Since apparently I can't find any 'dh_make' package in Kubuntu, I assume I shouldn't be following the Debian package maintainers handbook, but rather some Ubuntu one that I cannot find?
 so, when I' for instange, open firefox, there is no 'button' in the taskbar
[09:02] <dreamer> Jucato: different problem :P
[09:02] <dreamer> and that's only on the adminaccount
[09:02] <intelikey> dreamer i think it's because you don't have a task list  applet       there is an aplet that the open apps show in   with out it the task bar has no way to show them.
[09:02] <Jucato> hm.. ok one by one...
[09:03] <dreamer> the systray is on both accounts
[09:03] <Jucato> on both accounts, there is no system tray?
[09:03] <abattoir> Ash-Fox: try asking at #ubuntu-motu , not here
[09:03] <dreamer> Jucato: yes
[09:03] <Ash-Fox> abattoir, thanks
[09:03] <Jucato> hm....
[09:03] <abattoir> Ash-Fox: you're welcome
[09:04] <Jucato> dreamer: you checked in the Add Applet dialog box?
[09:04] <dreamer> yes
[09:04] <Jucato> (not Add Application)
[09:05] <dreamer> oh wait
[09:05] <dreamer> let me check
[09:05] <dreamer> ok lol, that was it :P
[09:05] <intelikey> dreamer and if my guess is correct.  my first answer to you is actually the right answer "that's not a kde issue"   :)      it's either pebcak (you) or package management (you)
[09:05] <dreamer> now to the taskbar issue ...
[09:05] <Jucato> it's pebcak....
[09:05] <dreamer> :P
[09:05] <dreamer> :#
[09:06] <Jucato> dreamer:  look for the Taskbar applet this time
[09:06] <dreamer> I feel so stupid :(
[09:07] <Jucato> everything ok now?
[09:07] <dreamer> so, you guys have any reccomended aplications for a htpc ?
[09:07] <dreamer> Jucato: yup :#
[09:07] <Jucato> ok good
[09:07] <Jucato> :)
[09:08] <dreamer> hmm, so I was trying to add mp3-support in amarok, but restarting the program doesn't enable it
[09:08] <dreamer> so I mean: installing mp3-support from within amarok
[09:09] <feety> so you installed libxine-extracodecs?
[09:09] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <Jucato> dreamer: you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[09:10] <feety> hi there. when i try to activate the mac-os like toolbar menu option, the bar where the text SHOULD sit upon appears BENEATH where the text is. so the text is happily sitting on top of nothing, and the panel is uselessly beneath it. any ideas? and dont tell me to surf thru kcontrol, what do you think ive been doing. lol.
[09:11] <dreamer> Jucato: I tryed, but it doesn't have an installation candidate
[09:11] <Jucato> feety: try restarting kicker. Alt+F2, type in "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[09:11] <Jucato> dreamer: do you have multiverse enabled?
[09:11] <Jucato> !multiverse dreamer
[09:11] <dreamer> I thought I did
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiverse dreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <feety> would that really work? it does it even after restarting my session.
[09:11] <Jucato> !multiverse | dreamer
[09:11] <ubotu> dreamer: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:12] <Jucato> feety: no harm in trying. it just restarts kicker anyway
[09:12] <feety> okay
[09:12] <feety> oh it worked, but now that panel lacks its shadow
[09:12] <Jucato> what shadow?
[09:13] <feety> ive got the transparency manager on. it had a shadow before while it was sitting uselessly beneath the text. now it doesnt have its shadow. somehow, the main kicker panel down the bottom got a shadow it didnt have before xD
[09:13] <dreamer> Jucato: in synaptic I now have all multiverse-repo's enabled, still no candidate
[09:13] <alyx> iwlist scanning : eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device....why?it should work...:(
[09:13] <feety> did you update your list, dreamer
[09:14] <Jucato> feety: not really familiar with transparency. can't help you there
[09:14] <feety> okay. well ill live with it for now.
[09:14] <Jucato> dreamer: click on Reload (Synaptic) or Fetch Updates (Adept)
[09:14] <dreamer> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/universe/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[09:15] <Jucato> err...
[09:15] <Jucato> somehow, that's wrong... not sure how you "enabled" multiverse
[09:15] <alyx> ifconfig eth1
[09:15] <alyx> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:F3:89:42:81
[09:15] <alyx>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:15] <alyx>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[09:15] <alyx>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[09:15] <alyx>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[09:15] <alyx>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[09:15] <alyx>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[09:15] <alyx>           Interrupt:5 Base address:0x4000
[09:15] <dreamer> settings >> repositories
[09:15] <Jucato> alyx: stop
[09:16] <Jucato> !pastebin | alyx
[09:16] <ubotu> alyx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:16] <alyx> have I something wrong?sorry 4 that long message...
[09:16] <intelikey> anyone know how to "reset" a console ?
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: is that a joke?
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> oh nvm
[09:16] <Jucato> dreamer: the line should look like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse"
[09:16] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: what?
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> nvm, I'm being retarted
[09:17] <Jucato> :O
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> I can't read
[09:17] <Jucato> you really need to get some more sleep :)
[09:17] <intelikey> Jucato should we say 'empower universe' ?
[09:17] <Jucato> dreamer: if you're using Synaptic, this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[09:17] <intelikey> or maybe  'activate universe' ?
[09:18] <feety> or enable
[09:18] <dreamer> Jucato: I have lines that look like that enabled
[09:18] <Jucato> hmm....
[09:18] <feety> try appending your country code before archive, maybe that will help
[09:19] <Jucato> dreamer: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:19] <Jucato> !pastebin | dreamer
[09:19] <intelikey> well,   anyone know how to "reset" a console ?
[09:19] <ubotu> dreamer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:19] <Jucato> intelikey: what do you mean by "reset"?
[09:20] <bbb> !ati
[09:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:20] <intelikey> i mean when the cursor is gone and the fonts are not rendering properly any more.
[09:20] <intelikey> how do you fix it ?
[09:20] <Jucato> ah.. hm...
[09:21] <intelikey> i don't want to reboot just because one console is #\|@!!_
[09:21] <feety> oh yes ive experienced that myself.the console screen turns to garbage.
[09:21] <Jucato> is this a tty, or a terminal emulator?
[09:21] <Fleebailey33> im trying to get nerolinux working under amd64. i got synaptic in a 32bit envirement in kubuntu so far. any ideas?
[09:21] <intelikey> yep.   anyone that wants an example just cat /dev/urandom
[09:21] <Fleebailey33> besides use k3b?
[09:21] <Jucato> heh :)
[09:22] <Fleebailey33> becuase im doing this for fun
[09:22] <dreamer> Jucato:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37138/
[09:22] <Fleebailey33> heh
[09:22] <cntb> kill  process intelikey ??
[09:22] <feety> nerolinux for linux reminds me of the ancient useless versions of nero for windows, prior to version 5/6 ^^
[09:22] <intelikey> what process cntb ?
[09:22] <cntb> nerolinux ? sounds interesting
[09:22] <dreamer> lel
[09:23] <dreamer> K3b kicks ass as far as I've seen
[09:23] <Jucato> dreamer: wth?
[09:23] <dreamer> heh
[09:23] <Fleebailey33> yeah i guess
[09:23] <paulo> yo yo yo
[09:23] <Fleebailey33> i want to compare on the fly speeds
[09:23] <cntb> k3b does any bootables  ?
[09:23] <Jucato> dreamer: delete those last 5 lines... those are giving you the errors
[09:23] <Fleebailey33> i think k3b could improve
[09:23] <dreamer> Jucato: lol ok
[09:23] <intelikey> anothere yo yo ???
[09:23] <Adlai> Fleebailey33, on the fly...why?
[09:23] <Fleebailey33> i dont get 16x speed on my dvds
[09:23] <Adlai> bad burns
[09:23] <Fleebailey33> nowhere close
[09:24] <dreamer> Jucato: rest looks ok?
[09:24] <Adlai> bad burns with 16x also
[09:24] <Adlai> lower speed is better
[09:24] <Jucato> dreamer: yes. as I suspected, in Synaptic, you added universe and multiverse, without indicating that it's for edgy
[09:24] <Fleebailey33> i guess
[09:24] <Fleebailey33> hmm
[09:24] <Jucato> dreamer: just delete those last 5 lines, Reload, then install
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> but it is nice to have a 32 bit envirement now
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> so i can run wine
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> speaking of wine
[09:25] <alfonso> in spanish
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> i come from powerpc world
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> how do i start wine
[09:25] <Fleebailey33> lol
[09:25] <dreamer> allright, thank you so much Jucato :)
[09:25] <snowrichard> hello
[09:25] <Adlai> Fleebailey33, winecfg
[09:26] <Adlai> then wine /path/to/windows/executable
[09:26] <dreamer> now to get an easy way to unmount dvd's instead of opening a terminal ;/ this pc is for the livingroom and my housmates aren't kings in computers ;/
[09:26] <Adlai> add a "-w" at the end if you want windowed mode
[09:26] <Adlai> dreamer, you could write a script and put it on your desktop, or if you have gnome or kde, you can right click on media and unmount it
[09:27] <Fleebailey33> i think i got it...
[09:27] <Fleebailey33> lol
[09:27] <Fleebailey33> thanks
[09:27] <intelikey> so does anyone know how to "reset" a console ?      i hate to keep asking, but this is a help channel...
[09:28] <Adlai> intelikey, how do you mean, just clear the screen?
[09:31] <dreamer> hey wf, I just tried another dvd, it played, and I could just eject afterwards, that didn't happen the last time I tried ..
[09:31] <dreamer> so, currently I have VLC for movies and dvd, amarok for music .. what else would be good ?
[09:32] <intelikey> ok i have a working answer for "how to reset a console"   reset   .....
[09:33] <intelikey> yes yes.   it was so obvious i over looked it.
[09:33] <Jucato> ?
[09:33] <Jucato> what was it?
[09:34] <malik_> !java
[09:34] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:34] <intelikey> lol Jucato
[09:34] <dreamer> intelikey: resetting a console ?
[09:34] <intelikey> that was a good one. Jucato
[09:35] <Jucato> huh?
[09:35] <intelikey> dreamer doesn't apply to the graphic user interface.
[09:35] <dreamer> ok, so :P
[09:35] <malik_> what are the java softwares we need to install on kubuntu?
[09:35] <intelikey> Jucato are you serious ?
[09:35] <intelikey> ok i have a working answer for "how to reset a console"   reset   .....  <<<< reset
[09:35] <Jucato> oh....
[09:36] <Jucato> that was the command?
[09:36] <intelikey> yes
[09:36] <Jucato> s/the/a
[09:36] <Jucato> on my PC, that's also a button...
[09:36] <intelikey> i thought you were being kar/skastic when you asked "<Jucato> what was it?"
[09:37] <Jucato> no.  FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[09:37] <dreamer> Jucato: what are you reading? :)
[09:38] <dreamer> but I don't feel like it
[09:38] <Jucato> Linux Bible 2005 :P
[09:38] <intelikey> i thought that was the best joke i've heard you do yet....   then you tell me it wasn't     man next time just grin and let people think you are funny.
[09:38] <Adlai> kftpgrabber also
[09:39] <Jucato> intelikey: sorry
[09:40] <dreamer> Adlai: I want an ftp-server on the htpc so everyone can upload movies and music themselve
[09:40] <Adlai> proftpd works for me
[09:40] <Adlai> fairly easy to set up
[09:41] <Adlai> of course I just did an anonymous setup so people could grab stuff from me
[09:43] <dreamer> Adlai: hmm, hehe, I just want the 2 accounts on the pc to get to there own space
[09:44] <snowrichard> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:13379
[09:46] <snowrichard> is that url reachable? its my shoutcast server status page
[09:48] <dreamer> snowrichard: sure
[09:48] <snowrichard> tks
[09:48] <bbb> !ati
[09:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:54] <dreamer> snowrichard: hehe, nice stream :P
[09:54] <linux_> hello, I would like to make my linux-server remote control I have read something about VNC but is there also a another way to do this ?
[09:55] <dreamer> too bad I can't seet he song-info in amarok
[09:55] <dreamer> linux_: ssh?
[09:55] <dreamer> linux_: or do you want a desktop ?
[09:56] <linux_> yes desktop :)
[09:56] <dreamer> linux_: are you going to use it remotely on a linux-box ?
[09:57] <bbb> !ati
[09:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:58] <dreamer> bbb: lol, you really should bookwark that page :P
[09:58] <linux_> yes
[09:59] <intelikey> or save page as
[09:59] <linux_> just want my server be remote control
[09:59] <dreamer> I'm not too knowledgable on remote desktopping in linux though
[09:59] <dreamer> < linux_> just want my server be remote control << that can be anything, why do you need a remote gui on your server ?
[10:00] <linux_> when I am on skool I want to work with my server its is a skool project
[10:02] <intelikey> !vnc | linux_
[10:02] <ubotu> linux_: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:02] <dreamer> linux_: just use ssh then
[10:02] <ubuntu> hi
[10:02] <dreamer> hey
[10:03] <dreamer> linux_: what do you need a gui for really ?
[10:03] <paulo> hello
[10:03] <Kubuntu1> here is a noob question
[10:03] <paulo> ok
[10:03] <linux_> okey thank, I will look for VMC
[10:03] <dreamer> so what other programs shall I install on my htpc?
[10:04] <Kubuntu1> I did an update to Kubunto edgy eft last night
[10:04] <Kubuntu1> and it wrecked my kdeint
[10:04] <Kubuntu1> save reinstaling the OS, what could I have ne to fix it
[10:06] <Kubuntu1> ok forget that queston... lol
[10:07] <Kubuntu1> has anyone install kubuntu on any dell laptops?
[10:07] <it01> # bawel
[10:07] <Kubuntu1> intelikey can you see my responses>
[10:07] <Kubuntu1> ?
[10:08] <intelikey> nope
[10:08] <intelikey> !regestor
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regestor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <intelikey> !regester
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regester - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Kubuntu1> !regester
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regester - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <dreamer> !register
[10:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:08] <dreamer> ?
[10:08] <dreamer> hehe
[10:09] <Kubuntu1> haha ok I have to register
[10:14] <Kubuntu1> thx for help i will be back, after I boot from HD. I just finished reinstalling kubuntu.. inteli i saved your info, thx
[10:18] <intelikey> SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_rab_diphone
[10:18] <intelikey> festival: fatal error exiting.
[10:18] <dreamer> anybody here using irssi ?
[10:20] <Guardian> hmm, yesterday kde packages got updated, and i could not log anymore. then i removed the .kde folder and it started
[10:20] <Guardian> today i have the same issue on another computer
[10:20] <intelikey> bx here dreamer
[10:20] <Guardian> (hmm hello :) )
[10:20] <Guardian> is there anything wiser than remove the whole .kde folder to do ? :)
[10:20] <dreamer> intelikey: bx?  I just want joins/parts/qiuts not to be displayed .. I did it before on certian channels, but I can't remember how :#
[10:21] <intelikey> !bitchx
[10:21] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1507 kB, installed size 6516 kB
[10:21] <dreamer> ah bitchx :P
[10:21] <dreamer> I like irssi, I just need to get to learn some coding ..
[10:21] <dreamer> first quantum mechanics though :/
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> root@Xenon:/# wine '/home/andy/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/SlySoft/AnyDVD/AnyDVD.exe'
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x34fc74) stub!
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> err:module:import_dll Library ntoskrnl.exe (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\ElbyCDIO.sys") not found
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> err:module:import_dll Library HAL.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\ElbyCDIO.sys") not found
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\ElbyCDIO.sys" failed, status c0000135
[10:22] <Fleebailey33> root@Xenon:/#
[10:23] <Fleebailey33> OOPS
[10:23] <dreamer> dude
[10:23] <Fleebailey33> i didnt press enter and wonrg place
[10:23] <Fleebailey33> my bad
[10:23] <intelikey> why are you doing that as root ?
[10:24] <Fleebailey33> maybe i need some sleep
[10:24] <Fleebailey33> i have to use wine like that becuase i im 64 bit
[10:24] <intelikey> uning root for things like that begs trubble
[10:24] <Fleebailey33> its tricky to get it to do 32 bit
[10:25] <dreamer> anybody know of any good VJ-apps for (k)ubuntu ?
[10:25] <intelikey> is that in a chrooted env ?
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> anybody know why wine wouldnt load btw?
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> yes
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> of made from one
[10:25] <dreamer> wine is a bitch :P
[10:25] <Fleebailey33> so i see
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> was great
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> installed the files fine
[10:26] <intelikey> wine did load   it's  ElbyCDIO.sys  that it couldn't find ?
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> im like fine is wondeful!
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> no its not
[10:26] <Fleebailey33> hm intelikey?
[10:27] <intelikey> file not found.   err:module:import_dll Library ntoskrnl.exe   < error caused by ElbyCDIO.sys
[10:27] <Fleebailey33> ah
[10:28] <Fleebailey33> following you so far
[10:28] <Fleebailey33> maybe i remove that
[10:28] <Fleebailey33> maybe we dont really need it
[10:28] <Fleebailey33> ?
[10:28] <snowrichard> hello
[10:28] <intelikey> i have very little exp with wine.   i don't do windows.
[10:29] <Fleebailey33> same
[10:29] <Fleebailey33> lol
[10:29] <snowrichard> http://schizophrenicprogrammer.info
[10:29] <snowrichard> just updated with station listen link
[10:31] <intelikey> it seems that the error i was having with festival is caused by a "LANGUAGE" setting  i don't know what language is installed by default but english will error out.
[10:31] <dreamer> I should get to making some website
[10:31] <dreamer> what is a good program for web-design? something wysiwyg would be great (haven't done html in 4 years :#)
[10:32] <snowrichard> mozilla composer, quanta, vi :)
[10:32] <intelikey> no emacs ?
[10:32] <snowrichard> never learned emacs
[10:32] <dreamer> snowrichard: vi is hardly wysiwyg :P
[10:33] <snowrichard> by the way if there are developers here, this edgy is really slick, easy install.
[10:34] <snowrichard> from the DVD
[10:34] <intelikey> hmmm installing emacs only requires a  13.1MB  dl     After unpacking 43.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
[10:34] <dreamer> so many programs installed, I'm not gona reinstall edgy for a while ;)
[10:35] <snowrichard> my other system is dual XP home, gentoo 64
[10:35] <intelikey> !LTS
[10:35] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:38] <dreamer> hmm, how do I install mozilla composer ?
[10:39] <snowrichard> just install mozilla-browser, it comes with it
[10:40] <dreamer> hmm, too bad it doesn't come with firefox
[10:40] <intelikey> piped text how to remove all between ( or [ and ]  or ) respectivly ?
[10:41] <deitarion> What could cause Samba shares on a Kubuntu box to not work?
[10:42] <deitarion> More specifically, my mother is trying to share some folders on her desktop using KDE's built-in "share folder" feature, and when I try to connect using smb:// from my Konqueror, it says "The file or folder smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/STEPHAN does not exist."
[10:43] <deitarion> However, all of the folders show up properly in smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[10:45] <||arifaX> deitarion: shouldn't you use smb:/<IP_ADDRESS>/STEPHAN instead of smb:// ?
[10:45] <deitarion> No. KIOSlaves expect //
[10:45] <deitarion> At least, the ones in Gentoo do.
[10:46] <deitarion> It's rather ironic that a "simple" distro like Kubuntu is the first Linux distro to give me more trouble than Windows XP with SMB/CIFS file sharing.
[10:47] <cpk1> deitarion: this should get a samba share working really painlessly http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[10:47] <||arifaX> deitarion: works fine here!
[10:55] <wily> hi all
[10:55] <wily> i ndeed your help
[10:55] <wily> i've problem with my kubuntu
[10:55] <wily> at reboot i've this error:/bin/sh : can't access tty; job control turned off
[10:56] <wily> i think this is a grub's problem
[10:56] <intelikey> not mounting the root fs
[10:56] <intelikey> no  it's initrd/initramfs.img
[10:56] <wily> i'm trying to solve problem with live distro
[10:56] <wily> chroot .... etc
[10:56] <wily> how i can solve problem?
[10:57] <intelikey> build another initrd.img
[10:57] <wily> how i can do thta?
[10:57] <wily> *that?
[10:57] <intelikey> mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-<version> <version>
[10:57] <intelikey> in the chroot
[10:58] <wily> version of what? kernel?
[10:58] <deitarion> cpk1: Aha! It's that "force user = " line that it needs. Now I just need to figure out which line from my Gentoo setup negates the need for it so that my mother can just use KDE's "share" dialog.
[10:58] <intelikey> ls /boot
[10:58] <wily> ok
[10:58] <wily> now i try that
[10:59] <wily> thank you intelikey
[10:59] <intelikey> that may not solve it.  you may have to specify the modules to load.    which is much more endepth.
[10:59] <intelikey> but try that first.
[11:00] <wily> ok
[11:04] <wily> intelikey: i try to restart
[11:05] <dreamer> so, I'm still looking for good programs for my htpc, anybody some advice ?
[11:05] <dreamer> we don't have kabel so I'm not sure about mythtv
[11:05] <wily> intelikey: nothing
[11:05] <dreamer> but we do have a vcr that will be hooked on, what program would be best for using that ?
[11:05] <wily> same error
[11:06] <deitarion> There. I couldn't figure out what Kubuntu locks down that prevents KDE and QEmu from just working with Samba, so I set a global "force user =" to dodge it.
[11:06] <wily> please help me
[11:07] <wily> at reboot i've this error:/bin/sh : can't access tty; job control turned off
[11:07] <wily> i'm trying to solve problem with live distro
[11:07] <wily> chroot .... etc
[11:07] <intelikey> yes.   ok what is the hd ?
[11:07] <intelikey> is it IDE ?
[11:07] <wily> 0,2
[11:08] <wily> yes is a notebook
[11:08] <intelikey> k
[11:08] <intelikey> and the filesystem ?
[11:08] <intelikey> ext3 ?
[11:08] <wily> ext3
[11:08] <intelikey> k
[11:08] <intelikey> and the address of the hd ?
[11:08] <wily> google tells me that is a grub's erroe
[11:08] <wily> 0,2
[11:09] <wily> sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu
[11:09] <intelikey>  /dev/hda3  ?
[11:09] <wily> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt/ubuntu
[11:09] <wily> sudo chroot /mnt/ubuntu
[11:09] <DocTomoe> Are there any known (even inofficial) OOo2.1 repositories for Edgy?
[11:09] <intelikey> 2 ok.
[11:09] <wily> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[11:09] <intelikey> wait.
[11:09] <intelikey> wait.
[11:09] <intelikey> wait.
[11:09] <wily> ok
[11:09] <wily> sorry
[11:09] <intelikey> you said google tells me that is a grub's erroe
 0,2
[11:10] <wily> *error
[11:10] <intelikey> ignore the google Q it was a error on my part.
[11:10] <wily> ok i follow you
[11:10] <intelikey> you said the disk address is 0,2     but you are mounting /dev/hda2
[11:10] <wily> no no
[11:11] <wily> please step by step
[11:11] <wily> in menu.lst
[11:11] <wily> i've 0,2 for linux partition
[11:11] <intelikey> that doesn't match  <wily> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt/ubuntu
[11:12] <wily> no it's an example
[11:12] <intelikey> you have the disk mounted ?
[11:12] <wily> fdisk -L?
[11:12] <intelikey> no
[11:12] <intelikey> mount
[11:13] <wily> please tell me
[11:13] <intelikey> type   mount
[11:13] <wily> there are some way to copy files of mounted partition in chroot
[11:13] <wily> on remov device?
[11:13] <wily> if i type e on grub
[11:13] <wily> i've root (0,4)
[11:14] <wily> kernel ........ etc
[11:14] <wily> initid etc
[11:14] <wily> quiet
[11:14] <wily> savedefault
[11:14] <wily> boot
[11:14] <wily> that is
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> paste | wily
[11:14] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago .
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> err !paste
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: ?
[11:15] <intelikey> wily you are in the live cd ?
[11:15] <intelikey> wily ?
[11:16] <wily> yes
[11:16] <intelikey> type mount | grep mnt      in a terminal and
[11:17] <wily> in chroot
[11:17] <wily> ?
[11:17] <intelikey> tell me what it says
[11:17] <intelikey> no in the cd
[11:17] <wily> ok
[11:17] <wily> just a moment
[11:17] <wily> arghhh
[11:17] <wily> i've another error with klive
[11:18] <wily> BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0
[11:18] <wily> fuxxx
[11:19] <intelikey> well you have almost convinced me that you do have grub misconfigured,    but not quite.
[11:20] <intelikey> unless you have seperate / and /boot partitions
[11:21] <cpk1> i cant believe upgrading to edgy needs to pull 1gig from repos
[11:21] <intelikey> and why not ?
[11:21] <wily> if you can read this: http://ubuntutaker.wordpress.com/2006/10/11/ripristinare-grub/
[11:21] <wily> is in italian
[11:22] <cpk1> intelikey: me?
[11:22] <cpk1> because the cd is ~700megs
[11:22] <wily> intelikey
[11:22] <cpk1> i was expecting ~700meg download
[11:22] <intelikey> cpk1 and you haven't added anything after you installed dapper ?
[11:22] <wily> but step sudo grub-install /dev/hda doen't wors
[11:22] <cpk1> intelikey: shhh
[11:24] <intelikey> wily yes   now if you are finished playing with that.    would you please tell me where your hd is mounted and the device node ?
[11:25] <intelikey> issuing the mount command with no args will display that information
[11:25] <wily> i've english keyboard
[11:26] <wily> and i can't fing grep's bar
[11:26] <wily> on keyboard
[11:26] <wily> just a moment
[11:27] <wily> mount |grep mnt returned nothin
[11:27] <intelikey> so don't use a pipe   just type    mount
[11:28] <wily> i've not information about hd!!! arrrggh
[11:28] <intelikey> wily in klive ?
[11:28] <wily> proc |sys varrun varlock procusb.... udev devport
[11:28] <wily> yes
[11:29] <intelikey> ok fdisk -l
[11:29] <intelikey> !paste | wily
[11:29] <ubotu> wily: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:29] <intelikey> paste it all if you need to.
[11:29] <intelikey>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:29] <wily> ok
[11:30] <wily> i do that
[11:31] <wily>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37148
[11:32] <intelikey> ok and the output of     sudo fdisk -l
[11:33] <wily>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37150
[11:34] <intelikey> ok sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media
[11:35] <wily> ok
[11:35] <intelikey> ok sudo chroot /media
[11:36] <wily> ok
[11:37] <wily> now?
[11:37] <intelikey> ls lib/modules/
[11:37] <intelikey> tell me what that says
[11:37] <wily> 2.6.17-10-generic
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> uname -r works also
[11:38] <intelikey> ok mkinitramfs -o initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic 2.6.17-10-generic
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> nevermind, i think thats a live cd
[11:38] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago no it doesn't
[11:38] <intelikey> yes livecd and i want the installed kernel
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm just going to be quiet and do my homework
[11:38] <rag> hello all
[11:38] <rag> *
[11:39] <intelikey> wily tell me when that finishes.
[11:39] <wily> ok
[11:39] <rag> anybody how to modify boot options from kubuntu alternate install?
[11:40] <intelikey> at boot [F1]
[11:40] <intelikey> rag not sure what you want.
[11:41] <wily> nothin
[11:41] <wily> doesn't works
[11:41] <intelikey> wily good.
 doesn't works ?
[11:42] <intelikey> explain
[11:42] <rag> intelikey: hello! how are you?
[11:42] <rag> intelikey: i want without press F6, modify kubuntu CD
[11:42] <wily> i must to go for few minutes
[11:42] <wily> CUL8R
[11:42] <rag> intelikey: my target is modify cd for put BOOT OPTIONS static
[11:43] <rag> intelikey: do you understand me?
[11:43] <intelikey> rag oh... yes i understand.   but i can't help there.
[11:43] <intelikey> you need someone that builds install cd's to help with that.
[11:47] <DocTomoe> Are there any known (even inofficial) OOo2.1 repositories for Edgy?
[11:49] <intelikey> DocTomoe not that i know of.
[11:49] <intelikey> ubotu info openoffice.org
[11:49] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[11:49] <cox377> !alternate
[11:49] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:50] <rag> intelikey: i read you
[11:50] <eltese> Hi! Im currently running ubuntu but I ran kubuntu a little while before that.. .And the overall experience was that kubuntu was somehow smoother to deal with than ubuntu. But since im new to the whole linux ground I wanted to ask.. Whats the main difference between KDE and Gnome?
[11:51] <eltese> I have understood that its something like this.. In KDE you choose whats best for you. Gnome thinks it knows whats best for you.. Is that correct?
[11:51] <cox377> !powerpc
[11:51] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[11:51] <mindspin> kde uses qt, gome GTK
[11:52] <rag> intelikey: other possibility, is possible put BOOT OPTIONS in a kickstart cfg file?
[11:52] <eltese> mindspin, ok =) And what is the difference between qt and GTK?
[11:52] <rag> intelikey: all line BOOT OPTIONS on http cfg file
[11:53] <intelikey> eltese in a vague sense maybe some points    the botom line is that kde is by default more customizable than gnome.
[11:54] <mindspin> I don't know in detail, sk a developer ;-) but generally spoken kde is far more/easyer to set up for personal needs (thats my view)
[11:54] <eltese> Ok. Thanks :)
[11:54] <intelikey> rag you can make startup scripts let init run them
[11:55] <intelikey> rag you can put scripts in the initrd.img also
[11:55] <rag> intelikey: who init scripts start?
[11:55] <intelikey> who ?
[11:55] <mindspin> I use it because I ever used KDE and was not impressed by gnome (the very early versions) I did not check contemporary Gnome
[11:55] <eltese> just a last question. When running in commands in kubuntu. (Kubuntu was the very first Linux OS i tried.) sudo <- is a gnome command, right? So what is the kubuntu command? I have seen most of the guides to kubuntu are in like ubuntu forums etc
[11:55] <rag> intelikey: my target is start a install unattend
[11:56] <intelikey> rag init script would be the place   imo
[11:56] <rag> intelikey: yeah i put files on nfs, alternate cd, and init scripts
[11:56] <mindspin> with kdesu application name you can start GUI apps like kate, konqueror etc.
[11:57] <rag> intelikey: but i need know init scripts configuration for start install with BOOT OPTIONES DEFAULTS STATIC, i put them
[11:57] <rag> intelikey: where and how to put them?
[11:57] <mindspin> you can still use sudo witch commandline tools
[11:57] <mindspin> with even
[11:58] <eltese> ok
[11:58] <eltese> thanks :)
[12:00] <intelikey> rag init runs what ever is in /etc/rcS.d/S*   it can be shell scripts in which you could do anything you can do from the command line    or perl scripts or python scripts....  or even binary executables for that matter
[12:01] <cox377> !roaming profile
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roaming profile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <cox377> !roaming
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <rag> intelikey: yeah i know inits but can i run on install moment?
[12:02] <cox377> is there a roaming profile platform for linux server to linux clients?
[12:02] <rag> intelikey: alternate cd start them?
[12:02] <intelikey> well i'll put it this way.  find the first script ran (on SysVinit systems it's /etc/inittab) and go from there.
[12:03] <intelikey> i don't know what upstart uses   and i don't know if the alternate cd uses uptart or sysv
[12:03] <rag> intelikey: ok i know inittab, but it exist on install moment?
[12:03] <intelikey> boot the thing and see.
[12:04] <cox377> no?
[12:04] <rag> intelikey: i need put BOOT OPTIONS STATIC when i put F6 not write everytime noapic nolapic etc more kickstart http call
[12:05] <rag> intelikey: everytime i install with alternate cd, i dont want press F6 more insert noapic nolapic...
[12:05] <intelikey> cox377 i don't know.
[12:05] <rag> intelikey: any idea? thx! you are a coders free software true? or system admin?
[12:05] <intelikey> rag ok we are back to pre-boot options.    is that what  "but it exist on install moment?"  is asking ?
[12:06] <intelikey> install moment = pre-boot ?
[12:06] <rag> intelikey: i need put pre-boot options static forever
[12:07] <rag> intelikey: when you install with cd , you can press f6 and insert noapic, nolapic and more boot parameters
[12:07] <rag> intelikey: i want that parameters are static, forever, and i not put them
[12:07] <chupa-chups> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:08] <rag> intelikey: for example pointer to a file on nfs with parameters!
[12:08] <chupa-chups> i wanna ask howcan i show any code
[12:08] <intelikey> rag ok,  i think i follow you.  you need to rebuild the (grub) options   /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:08] <chupa-chups> somebody told me about paste bin but i dont know how
[12:09] <rag> intelikey: intelikey no, but it is for a system installed already
[12:09] <rag> intelikey: and i talk about installing them
[12:09] <rag> intelikey: moment install
[12:09] <chupa-chups> howwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[12:09] <intelikey> as far as i know,  editing what is passed to the kernel from the boot loader is the only way to do what you are asking.
[12:09] <chupa-chups>  i wanna ask howcan i show any code
[12:10] <rag> intelikey: but menu.lst not exist on boot install no'
[12:10] <rag> ?
[12:10] <intelikey> does it not ?
[12:10] <chupa-chups> i have a python code and it doesnt work so i wanna know what is the error
[12:10] <intelikey> you have the disk.  i don't.
[12:11] <rag> intelikey: ideal is put a refer to a nfs file, with boot options
[12:11] <intelikey> !paste | chupa-chups
[12:11] <ubotu> chupa-chups: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:11] <rag> intelikey: i search again on inet, thx a lot intelikey
[12:11] <rag> :)
[12:12] <wily> intelikey:
[12:12] <wily> i'm returne
[12:12] <intelikey> wily ok.
[12:12] <wily> sorry
[12:12] <chupa-chups> ok i will paste and get the url and may any one help me to
[12:12] <wily> problem is the same
[12:12] <intelikey> where are you now ?   same place or have we lost all we did ?
[12:12] <wily> nothing change
[12:12] <wily> same palce
[12:12] <wily> place
[12:12] <intelikey> still in the chroot ?
[12:12] <wily> no
[12:13] <wily> i must to rebbot
[12:13] <intelikey> not same place
[12:13] <wily> yes
[12:13] <wily> i've rebbot to try your modify
[12:13] <intelikey> but i wasn't finished.
[12:13] <wily> oops
[12:13] <wily> sorry
[12:14] <chupa-chups> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37153/
[12:14] <wily> intelikey: i must to repeat all operation?
[12:15] <intelikey> chupa-chups take that url to  #python    ?
[12:15] <intelikey> wily all but the mkinitramfs step
[12:15] <chupa-chups> this is the first time to me using python and i have a code calculating area of 3 shapes and select which shape - then choose if area or premeter
[12:15] <chupa-chups> excuse me ??
[12:16] <chupa-chups> i paste the code there then click paste then i got the url
[12:16] <chupa-chups> is it right
[12:16] <intelikey> chupa-chups you can post your url in the irc channel #python
[12:16] <intelikey> yes  but i don't know python    and someone in  #python might help you where i can.
[12:16] <chupa-chups> thank u
[12:17] <intelikey> can't.
[12:17] <wily> please help me to remember
[12:18] <intelikey> ok sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media
[12:18] <intelikey> wily   ^
[12:18] <intelikey> ok sudo chroot /media
[12:18] <intelikey> wily   ^
[12:19] <chupa-chups> excuse me i try to go there but a message appear to me like that ([Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel)
[12:19] <intelikey> !register | chupa-chups
[12:19] <ubotu> chupa-chups: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:20] <wily> ok
[12:20] <wily> intelikey:
[12:20] <wily> now i launch mkinitramfs
[12:20] <wily> ?
[12:20] <intelikey> ok grep sda5 boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:21] <wily> ok
[12:21] <intelikey> what does it say ?
[12:21] <wily> i paste it
[12:22] <intelikey> if it's one line    paste it here.
[12:22] <intelikey> or even two.
[12:22] <wily> !paste
[12:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:22] <intelikey> else use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:22] <intelikey> yeah that.
[12:23] <wily> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37154
[12:24] <intelikey> ok then grub is not the problem.
[12:24] <intelikey> wily that disk is that an scsi interface ?    sata ?     usb ?
[12:25] <wily> is a laptop
[12:25] <wily> normal but windows partition works fine
[12:26] <intelikey> ok lshw
[12:26] <intelikey> and look at the output to see if it says sata or scsi  for the disk
[12:26] <intelikey> or pata
[12:27] <intelikey> because /dev/sda   is not IDE  unless it's using scsi emulation
[12:28] <wily> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37155
[12:29] <wily> :-(
[12:29] <intelikey> ok one more   lsmod
[12:30] <intelikey> err you will have to mount proc for that to work in the chroot so in another terminal (outside the chroot) do  lsmod
[12:32] <intelikey> wily ?
[12:33] <wily> one moment
[12:33] <intelikey> ok
[12:35] <wily> opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory
[12:35] <wily> this is anwer
[12:35] <intelikey> ^^^in another terminal (outside the chroot) do  lsmod
[12:36] <wily> ok
[12:36] <wily> sorry :-(
[12:36] <wily> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37158
[12:37] <kraut> moin
[12:37] <VSpike> !ntfs
[12:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:38] <intelikey> wily ok.  right there is what we are looking for.  "scsi_mod              144648  4 sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata "
[12:39] <wily> ..........
[12:40] <intelikey> i'm thinking that 'libata'  is not getting built into the initramfs.img   so we will need to add an entry in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules
[12:40] <intelikey> so we want to edit  /etc/mkinitramfs/modules  ok
[12:41] <wily> in cjroot?
[12:41] <intelikey> in the chroot. ok# nano /etc/mkinitramfs/modules
[12:41] <wily> chroot?i've not this folder
[12:41] <wily> i must to create it?
[12:42] <intelikey> no.
[12:42] <intelikey> do you have /etc/mkinitrd  folder ?
[12:42] <wily> no
[12:42] <wily> i've not
[12:42] <intelikey> in the chroot ?
[12:42] <wily> yes
[12:43] <intelikey> eeek.
[12:44] <intelikey> well lets try making it.  mkdir etc/mkinitramfs
[12:44] <wily> donr
[12:45] <wily> done
[12:47] <Admiral_Chicago> !fstab
[12:47] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:47] <intelikey> wily can you copy that to /media/etc
[12:48] <intelikey> and unpack it ?
[12:48] <wily> ok
[12:48] <wily> i try
[12:54] <wily> ok
[12:54] <wily> done
[12:54] <intelikey> in the chroot, ok#  mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic 2.6.17-10-generic
[12:55] <intelikey> this time it should give you a working initramfs.img file
[12:55] <intelikey> but before you exit i want you to check one more thing for me.
[12:55] <wily> ok
[12:55] <wily> tell me
[12:56] <intelikey> ok grep generic /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:56] <intelikey> just to make sure that grub is actually going to use the new initramfs.img
[12:56] <wily> do u want i paste it?
[12:57] <intelikey> only an init line
[12:57] <wily> i've pasted it
[12:57] <wily> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37160
[12:58] <intelikey> yes ok.  it all looks good.
[12:58] <intelikey> is mkinitramfs   finished yet ?
[12:58] <wily> yes
[12:58] <wily> can i reboot?
[12:58] <intelikey> ls -l /boot/init
[12:58] <intelikey> ls -l /boot/init*
[12:59] <intelikey> lets make sure you did make a new one and that it's not empty.
[12:59] <wily> i've an img file
[12:59] <intelikey> size and date ?
[12:59] <wily> now
[12:59] <wily> 13.55 local time
[12:59] <dreamer> anybody here with mt-daap experience ?
[12:59] <wily> 2 minutes ago
[01:00] <intelikey> k and size
[01:00] <intelikey> size is important
[01:00] <wily> 5337921
[01:00] <intelikey> ok test it.
[01:01] <wily> i reboot
[01:01] <intelikey> yes reboot.
[01:02] <wily> same thing
[01:02] <wily> ;-(
[01:03] <intelikey> yes :-(
[01:03] <intelikey> i don't know anything more we can do.
[01:03] <wily> there are a way to recover files
[01:03] <wily> ?
[01:03] <wily> i reinstall all my kubuntu after recovering
[01:03] <intelikey> recover files ?
[01:03] <wily> in my home i've important files
[01:04] <wily> but in chroot they becomes untouchable
[01:04] <intelikey> you could mount the partition and copy your home to another partition.  or disk.   you could make a tar.gz archive of your home/
[01:05] <wily> now i try
[01:05] <wily> after i reinstall kubuntu
[01:05] <intelikey> yes. i would not use "chroot" for that.
[01:05] <wily> thank you very much
[01:05] <wily> and what?
[01:06] <intelikey> wily you're welcome.   and sorry that it's not working correctly for you.
[01:06] <wily> how i can use to copy if not chroot?
 yes. i would not use "chroot" for that. <<< coping the files.    just mount the parttion.  and use a filemanager.
[01:07] <wily> ok
[01:07] <wily> grazie mille (i'm italian!)
[01:07] <intelikey> yes i know.
[01:07] <intelikey> your welcome.
[01:07] <wily> how you know?
[01:08] <intelikey> your ip.
[01:08] <wily> 8-)
[01:08] <intelikey> it's my job to know such things. :)
[01:12] <dreamer> on my desktop I can't find my mt-daap server with Avahi (or any other program)
[01:14] <RoKFiT> when switching my sound to OSS i get the following error... "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers."
[01:15] <RoKFiT> does anyone have any possible ideas what could fix this?
[01:17] <cpk1> I thought oss was old and alsa better to use...
[01:32] <RoKFiT> i'm not sure but it keeps popping
[01:32] <RoKFiT> i'm going to restart to check bios
[01:32] <RoKFiT> brb
[01:33] <malik_> what java packages do we need to install in edgy?
[01:37] <Red_Tear> hi
[01:38] <Red_Tear> Adept sagt dauernd "Another process is using the packaging system database......."
[01:38] <Red_Tear> habe aber meines wissens keinen Prozess am laufen der darauf zugreifen drfte
[01:38] <elbing> did anyone probe HSDPA usb vodafone in kubuntu?
[01:39] <malik_> Red_Tear: u must have had konsole open too and using apt-get..........u can use only one at a time
[01:39] <dreamer> damnit, when I open the avahi zeroconf-browser I just installed on edgy it immediatly disappears
[01:40] <Red_Tear> ups im sorry, wanted to write this in the german channel...... but no Im not doing this atm...
[01:42] <dave086> Does anyone here know about WINE on Kubuntu
[01:42] <dreamer> what is there te know ?
[01:42] <dave086> ah
[01:42] <dave086> Well. I would like to know why it is allways ghosted in Adept
[01:42] <dave086> and  not installable
[01:42] <dreamer> heh, sorry, no idea
[01:43] <dave086> Ah   well...
[01:43] <cpk1> alright guys massive problem, I just tried to upgrade to edgy and now and reboot and cant boot from hdd
[01:43] <cpk1> dave086: what do you need?
[01:43] <dave086> Well. I would like to know why it is allways ghosted in Adept
[01:44] <dave086> (wine)
[01:44] <cpk1> you using the repo from winehq?
[01:44] <dave086> No, It says  I  need  to have....
[01:44] <dave086> umm
[01:44] <dave086> "Synaptic Package Manager"
[01:45] <cpk1> pretty sure you dont, i use wine and dont think i have synaptic
[01:45] <malik_> cpk1: did u upgraded online or from cd?
[01:45] <cpk1> online
[01:45] <cpk1> followed the kubuntu.org instructions
[01:45] <dave086> Are you guys talking about WINE?
[01:45] <cpk1> dave086: go to winehq.org and use their repo
[01:45] <dave086> Yeah, how  do you *use* repos
[01:46] <malik_> aaaaaaah cud be some broken packages or somethin ..........sorry dont know abt that much
[01:46] <cpk1> dave086: do you like to use adept?
[01:46] <cpk1> malik_: well kind of hard to fix broken package when i cant get it to boot =\
[01:46] <dave086> I dont mind,     I  didnt know you could do that   in Adept
[01:46] <dave086> anything will do
[01:47] <cpk1> dave086: i suppose easiest would be to do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:47] <cpk1> and then add the repo from winehq.org into there
[01:47] <dave086> what do you   mean   'do' that command?  In terminal?
[01:49] <cpk1> dave086: yes
[01:49] <dave086> Ah   done.
[01:49] <dave086> I'll berightback and tell you what happened.
[01:50] <dave086> ..nope
[01:50] <dave086> Didnt work
[01:51] <malik_> dave086: if u r using kubuntu edgy then goto the file sources.list right click on it n then actions n then edit as a root n make the change in there n save it n then run adept
[01:52] <cpk1> dave086: did you add the repo from winehq and then in a terminal do sudo aptitude update
[01:52] <dave086> what is the default   sudo    PW?
[01:54] <malik_> ur own PW
[01:54] <cpk1> your main user PW
[01:54] <dave086> Ah good. I tried to   do SU before doing the commands but   It   didnt like me.
[01:54] <dave086> Also on     e other
[01:54] <sMu> holaaaa
[01:55] <dave086> Whatr address   is  the multiverse repository  and how  do i  get the MP3  codec   from it?
[01:55] <mauro> !java
[01:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:55] <malik_> libxine-extracodecs thats the package u need to play mp3z in kubuntu edgy
[01:56] <dave086> Dont use edgy
[01:56] <dave086> LTS  Dappler
[01:56] <dave086> "E: Couldn't rebuild package cache"
[01:56] <malik_> dapper kubuntu or ubuntu?
[01:56] <dave086> hrm.
[01:56] <dave086> Ku
[01:57] <malik_> well still that paCkage sould do the trick ...........plus may be u wanna try w32codecs
[01:57] <dave086> from multiverse?
[01:57] <malik_> i think thats where they are
[01:57] <dave086> I'm still having trouble ADDING repositories.
[01:58] <dave086> =3
[01:58] <malik_> i can pase my sources.list entries for u if u like but for that u might have to pm me coz cant paste em in the main channel
[01:58] <dave086> yes okay
[01:59] <chris__> hello, I request some help please about "wget"
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> w32 codecs are not in the multiverse
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> !restricted
[01:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:59] <chris__> why isn't wget working on my kubuntu ?
[01:59] <malik_> well there we go.........some one with knowledge
[01:59] <dave086> PM'd    you.
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> ?
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> dave086: please paste your sources.list
[02:00] <malik_> bummer im blocked from pmz
[02:00] <dave086> Here?
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste | dave086
[02:00] <ubotu> dave086: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[02:00] <dave086> That will get me kicked.
[02:00] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: can you please help me ?
[02:00] <malik_> i ll pase it on pastebin.........do u know how to use em?
[02:01] <dave086> Not paticularly, but anyways.
[02:01] <mauro> malik_: you have to register to use PMs
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> chris__: what is the issuo?
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> i can try, but I am busy as well
[02:01] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: wget isn't working
[02:01] <malik_> or u can try the instruction on http://easylinux.info
[02:01] <mauro> Admiral_Chicago: you know if java sdk was removed from the repos ?
[02:01] <malik_> to make use of diff repo
[02:01] <mauro> i do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk and it sais its not there
[02:02] <mauro> and ye,s i enabled everything :P
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> mauro: not sure what is your output
[02:02] <soulrider> it sais it cant find the pacckage
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> chris__: what are you trying to do
[02:02] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: check this please and tell me how I can resolve it .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37167/
[02:03] <dave086> Umm...
[02:03] <dave086> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[02:03] <dave086>   Major opcode:  145
[02:03] <dave086>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:03] <dave086>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:03] <dave086> Failed to open device
[02:03] <dave086> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[02:03] <dave086>   Major opcode:  145
[02:03] <dave086>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:03] <dave086>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:03] <dave086> Failed to open device
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> stop, use a paste bin
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste
[02:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> chris__: apt-cache search ampp
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> wget is a tool that connects to a specific website to get a .deb
[02:04] <dave086> I  KNow that.  I'm saying I CANT GET TO SOURCES.LIST!
[02:04] <dave086> =)
[02:04] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: it said Invalid operation search
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-cache search ampp
[02:04] <soulrider> did you do sudo ?
[02:04] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago:  I tried it with sudo yeah..
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> dave086: kate /etc/apt/souces.list
[02:05] <chris__> root@chris-desktop:/home/chris# apt-get search amp
[02:05] <chris__> E: Invalid operation search
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> cd
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache search ampp
[02:05] <dave086> Sources.list   is       blank
[02:05] <dave086> And it wasn't... about  2min ago
[02:06] <dave086> ahh
[02:06] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: how can i enable the apt-get search ?? i use to use it on Ubuntu
[02:06] <soulrider> chris__: do "sudo aptitude search amp"
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago>  sources
[02:06] <dave086> I made it      Souces
[02:06] <dave086> Whoops.
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> chris__: like i said cd
[02:06] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: what do you mean cd?
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> your problem is "/home/chris#"
[02:06] <chris__> ohh
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> type that in a konsole
[02:07] <chris__> okay let me try
[02:07] <malik__> dave086: okie do this..........i am goin to give u a url of pastebin from where u can get the list of my repos n add em to ur sources.list
[02:07] <dave086> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37168/
[02:07] <malik__> !pastebin
[02:07] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: it's still giving me invalid operation
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> !easysource
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> malik__: standby please
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> where is the bot?
[02:08] <chris__> [15:07]  <-- ubotu has left this server (Remote closed the connection).
[02:08] <malik__> ai ai admiral
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !easysource
[02:08] <dave086> Exactly,     it   left.
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ah dammit it
[02:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:09] <dave086> One    thing I *do* know about is IRC.
[02:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[02:10] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[02:10] <dave086> OKay,    so          am    I being helped here?
[02:11] <chris__> please someone, can you tell me how to enable apt-get search ?
[02:11] <dave086> Is  this a   netsplit?
[02:11] <malik__> dave086: yes just wait admiral is getting stuff for u
[02:11] <murchadh_bhaba> chris__, check to see that wget is installed. dpkg -l | grep wget
[02:11] <dave086> Ahkay
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> dave086: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37169/
[02:11] <dave086> Okay
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> that is your new sources.list
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu kate /etc/sources.list
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> chris__: i have a ton of homework, same here malik__
[02:12] <chris__> murchadh_bhaba:  yeah it is, but i can't do apt-get search it tells me Invalid operation.. and i'm root
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll be happy to help at a later time
[02:12] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: okay thanks..
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm sorry, email me
[02:12] <chris__> Admiral_Chicago: will do. thanks again.
[02:13] <dave086> OKay
[02:13] <murchadh_bhaba> chris__, That dpkg -l work at all? I'm just wonderin'.
[02:13] <chris__> murchadh_bhaba:  yeah it did..
[02:13] <chris__> root@chris-desktop:/home# apt-get search hi
[02:13] <chris__> E: Invalid operation search
[02:14] <chris__> what can I do to fix this
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-get can't search
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache can
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache search string
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> freddy@omicron:~/Examples$ apt-cache search gaim-themes
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> gaim-themes - Smiley themes collection for gaim
[02:14] <chris__> i used to search with apt-get on ubuntu.. i was using it like a year ago.. so i could search files on the net instead of cache..
[02:15] <chris__> how can i update it then ?? so it can find the latest software using the cache ?
[02:15] <malik__> dave086: did u get the list of repoz admiral gave u?
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> your repos are net
[02:15] <dave086> Yes.
[02:16] <chris__> How do i edit repos.. etc..
[02:16] <dave086> Document cannot be saved.
[02:16] <chris__> and what repos should I use..
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo
[02:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:17] <chris__> the website doesnt work
[02:17] <chris__> help.ubuntu can't be resolved..
[02:17] <j__> anyone know how to run the ur-quan masters in fullscreen?
[02:18] <Admiral_Chicago> works here
[02:18] <chris__> okay my browser just died..
[02:18] <dave086> Works here.
[02:18] <dave086> so anyways,    I cant  save that file now.
[02:19] <Admiral_Chicago> how are you opening it?
[02:19] <dave086> Ah I forgot    sudo
[02:19] <malik__> :)
[02:20] <j__> nevermind, found it
[02:23] <dave086> Drumroll...
[02:23] <dave086> Wine  is..
[02:23] <dave086> Ghosted.
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it going?
[02:24] <dave086> who         are   you  talking  to
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> dave086: to Jucato sorry
[02:24] <dave086> s'kay
[02:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: doing fine... (I think)
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> -offtopic?
[02:25] <Jucato> um ok...
[02:28] <malik__> seems like not many ppl from homeland here
[02:29] <malik__> australia
[02:29] <Jucato> ah...
[02:29] <malik__> best country on gods green earth:)
[02:29] <big_> Hi...
[02:29] <Jucato> the kubuntu community manager is an aussie :)
[02:29] <Eyeless> !java
[02:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:30] <malik__> really?........didnt know that.......sorry
[02:30] <dave086> Im anaussie    :)
[02:30] <malik__> i ll b damned
[02:31] <dave086> O  Rly?
[02:31] <malik__> all of sudden fair few
[02:31] <dave086> Where are you?
[02:31] <malik__> blacktown sydney
[02:31] <dave086> Ah okay, Barwon heads, Victoria
[02:32] <mauro_> ~mp3
[02:32] <dave086> (near   geelong)
[02:32] <mauro_> !mp3
[02:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
  i guess though
[02:32] <malik__> hmm
[02:33] <Jucato> !au
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about au - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <Jucato> hm...
[02:35] <osh_> !aptitude
[02:35] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[02:36] <DinoeL> !eric
[02:36] <ubotu> eric: full featured Python IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9.1-1 (edgy), package size 1888 kB, installed size 11356 kB
[02:37] <osh_> !jpegtran
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jpegtran - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <Eyeless> !ipod
[02:46] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:47] <Eyeless> !hal
[02:47] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[02:47] <dave086> OKay.   I  have  WINE  Installed. Now where   is it and how  do  i    *run* it?
[02:49] <steffen> hi
[02:49] <steffen> kann jemand deutsch?
[02:50] <Jucato> !de
[02:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:50] <osh_> Howto find out which package contains jpegtran and exifautotran?
[02:51] <Jucato> !exiftran
[02:51] <ubotu> exiftran: transform digital camera jpeg images. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.05-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB
[02:52] <Jucato> actually...
[02:52] <Jucato> !libjpeg-progs | osh_
[02:52] <ubotu> libjpeg-progs: Programs for manipulating JPEG files. In component main, is optional. Version 6b-13 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 208 kB
[02:53] <osh_> Jucato: Thanks. But how did you find that out?
[02:54] <Jucato> trade secret :P
[02:54] <Jucato> j/k
[02:54] <Jucato> osh_: in Konqueror, type in "apt:/" then go to the File Search field and enter jpegtran
[02:54] <osh_> Jucato: I'm familiar enough with rpm do be able to do it there, but in *deb it's still a mystery.
[02:54] <osh_> Jucato: Good tip. Thanks.
[02:55] <Jucato> honestly, I don't know what the manual dpkg command is :)
[02:55] <Jucato> I'll find out... one of these days...
[02:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :0
[02:56] <kkathman> dpkg = rpm  basically   for the main help, type   man  dpkg   at the console
[02:56] <BluesKaj> err :)
[02:57] <Jucato> kkathman: yeah... I just mean I haven't tried searching for the backend of that utility
[02:58] <BluesKaj> Is anyone able to write to the hda1 (NTFS) partition from kubuntu and if so how is it done ? ... i get permission denied
[02:58] <kkathman> Jucato:   hehe, dpkg isnt used quite as often on k/ubuntu as much at apt... much like yast/smart/yum kinda replace rpm most of the time on other distros
[02:59] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, You need an ntfs driver which supports read/write like ntfs-3g or the like!
[03:01] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, I did that yesterday but I have an error in /etc/fstab ...I also tried to insatll Fuse which is required too.
[03:01] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, You'll need to enable some repositories, install the driver, umount the drive remount it with sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw,umask=000 /dev/hd_whatever /media/hda1 or custoized to your own needs.
[03:02] <Jucato> kkathman, osh_: found the command: dpkg -S <filename> (seems to work only with installed packages, though :( )
[03:03] <CVirus> Isn't there a 6.10 ISO for Kubuntu ?!
[03:03] <fannagoganna> yes there is
[03:03] <Jucato> CVirus: there is
[03:03] <CVirus> oops
[03:03] <CVirus> found it
[03:03] <CVirus> sorr
[03:03] <CVirus> sorry*
[03:03] <kkathman> Jucato:  correct, only installed packages
[03:03] <munelec> hola alguin de chile
[03:04] <kkathman> !es
[03:04] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:04] <binary2k2> Jucato, kkathman, there is a package called apt-file that can search for files in a package, even if it's not installed
[03:04] <kkathman> hmm looks like Konqueror was my culprit on high cpu idle :(
[03:05] <Jucato> binary2k2: yep. but it's not installed by default :)
[03:05] <binary2k2> nope, but that's what apt-get is good for :p
[03:05] <Jucato> :)
[03:05] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, whatever /media/hda1 ?
[03:05] <binary2k2> you can search on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:06] <Jucato> binary2k2: apt:/ also has an interface for doing that :)
[03:06] <Presnus> hey anybody knows a good tool so I can see my system stats on my desktop ?
[03:06] <kkathman> binary2k2:  what would be the diff between apt-file and apt-cache, etc with maybe grep ?
[03:06] <kkathman> description search?
[03:06] <Jucato> kkathman: apt-file is like that dpkg -S command, but can search through all packages, installed or not
[03:07] <Jucato> that's afaik
[03:07] <kkathman> wouldnt that make it like apt-cache then?
[03:07] <Presnus> somebody that knows such tool ?
[03:07] <binary2k2> kkathman: apt-file can be used to search for a specific file, and see what package it's in, or list the contense of a package. apt-cache searches name/description and shows dependencies and the like
[03:07] <kkathman> I've used apt-cache <blah> | grep <blah>  before and narrowed down things I guess
[03:08] <kkathman> binary2k2:  ahhh ok.. kewl :)
[03:08] <Jucato> kkathman: "Unlike apt-cache, you can search in which package a file is included or list the contents of a package without installing or fetching it." (package description)
[03:09] <kkathman> kewl.. wonder why that util is not included on default?
[03:09] <binary2k2> I've used apt-file to search for a specific header file I needed to compile an app, to find what package it's in
[03:09] <kkathman> seems very useful (maybe its valuable to people that do alot of dev work I suppose_
[03:09] <Jucato> ... or to people that do a lot of snooping :P
[03:10] <binary2k2> it's probably not included by default, because "most people" don't need it
[03:11] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1. Sorry, I knew you were using hda1.
[03:11] <kkathman> does artsd constantly run and consume resource... it keeps popping to the top of my top and Im not even playing anything
[03:12] <malik__> does edgy has ntfs write access?
[03:12] <malik__> or do we need special package installed?
[03:12] <binary2k2> malik__: no, you have to install a special driver for it
[03:12] <malik__> is it safe?
[03:13] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[03:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:13] <Jucato> !fuse
[03:13] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:13] <binary2k2> I don't know, don't have any ntfs partitions
[03:13] <Jucato> basically, it's a "use at your own risk" thing
[03:13] <Jucato> may work for some, may not work for others
[03:13] <binary2k2> just wait untill vista comes out with a new version of ntfs
[03:14] <malik__> aaaaaaaaaaah in that case i better leave it alone...........as they say curiousity killed the cat
[03:14] <malik__> :)
[03:14] <binary2k2> curiousity killed the partition :p
[03:15] <kkathman> yeah I dont ever write things to my windows boxes from linux.. I just go to the windows and pull the file over
[03:15] <malik__> :) cant risk that too much data on it
[03:15] <Ash-Fox> binary2k2, vista did come out with a new version of NTFS
[03:15] <kkathman> much safer :)
[03:15] <binary2k2> Ash-Fox: I mean when it released for sale, unless it's for sale now
[03:16] <dopez> i'm trying to figure out how i can get 'run command' , (alt-f2) to autocomplete the command i'm typing, instead of having to press tab, this is the default behaviour in opensuse but if cannot figure out where i can set the option, anyone here can give me a clue ?
[03:16] <binary2k2> I don't keep up with the MS news
[03:16] <malik__> vista has just stolen few tricks n functions from mac n linux
[03:16] <Ash-Fox> binary2k2, it is
[03:16] <binary2k2> malik__: nothing new there
[03:16] <dreamer> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=10535.msg44001
[03:16] <malik__> nothin new really apart from dotting the holes in security of the windows code
[03:16] <cpk1> you know whats depressing? borking your edgy upgrade and then when you go to boot your laptop having that have a couple of bad inodes
[03:17] <Ash-Fox> malik__, please, stop with the stealing non-sense
[03:17] <binary2k2> microsoft, stop stealing, haha, as if :p
[03:18] <Ash-Fox> "Microsoft stole this from Apple" "Well Apple stole it from Xerox" "..."
[03:18] <dreamer> anybody check that link ?
[03:20] <Presnus> Does somebody knows an program that show your system stats on the desktop ?
[03:20] <malik__> kdesklets i think
[03:20] <kkathman> Presnus:  what kind of stats ?
[03:20] <hydester> hi.  i am using edgy and am trying to pair to my bluetooth phone via PPP.  my phone asks for the PIN, then says that it failed yet the computer never asks for a PIN too
[03:20] <Presnus> like ethernet use, disk space, cpu load, memory stats
[03:21] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, sudo mount -a , [mntent] : line 12 in /etc/fstab is bad
[03:21] <hydester> any tricks to bluetooth pairing?
[03:21] <cpk1> Presnus: superkaramba has many
[03:21] <Presnus> lets search google for that :)
[03:21] <kkathman> Presnus:  there are many,  I use gkrellm (which is really a gtk app, but is skinnable and low overhead)
[03:22] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, sudo nano /etc/fstab and scroll down to line 12
[03:22] <Presnus> I'm installing gkrellm
[03:22] <malik__> !gkrellm
[03:23] <ubotu> gkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB
[03:23] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Compare it's syntax with the others, comment it out if it doesn't work. We'll fix it!
[03:23] <dreamer> so does anybody know what this ACPI: Invalid PBLK length [5]  during boot means ?
[03:23] <cpk1> Presnus: gkrellm is good but if you like eyecandy then superkaramba apps are for you
[03:23] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, /dev/partition /media/mount point ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:23] <dreamer> I havi it on my 6.10 install
[03:23] <Presnus> first time linux desktop
[03:25] <soulrider> Presnus: linux rocks!
[03:26] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, this is weird , the first 6 lines are commented out
[03:27] <kkathman> Presnus:  superkaramba widgets are good, but they come at a CPU overhead, especially the system monitor widgets.  gkrellm, as I said is very skinnable (over 1000) and its adjustable in size/width too.
[03:28] <cpk1> but superkaramba has other widgets besides system monitor!
[03:28] <cpk1> =P
[03:28] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Is that what's in your fstab, your penultimate post. Needs the /dev/hda1 and the /media/hda1. Rest of it looks fine.
[03:29] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, I'll post it in pastebin so you can take a look
[03:29] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, And don't worry about the commented out lines unless you know you need them.
[03:29] <stevie> howdy
[03:29] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Cool!
[03:30] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, You're nearly there though!
[03:30] <soulrider> BluesKaj: im trying to install sun-java5-jdk
[03:30] <stevie> This Kubuntu sure is diff
[03:30] <soulrider> when i do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[03:30] <soulrider> it sais it cant install the package
[03:30] <soulrider> sais its not available for some reason
[03:30] <soulrider> and that it ahs no installation candidate
[03:30] <soulrider> any ideas?
[03:33] <binary2k2> soulrider: do you have the multiverse repository enabled?
[03:33] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, http://pastebin.ca/279970
[03:34] <swanfl> what programs do I need to run my logitech webcam?
[03:34] <swanfl> it's an older model
[03:34] <Presnus> somebody that knows a good tool like limewire ?
[03:34] <stevie> I'm here
[03:34] <Presnus> because cant install limewire
[03:34] <swanfl> Presnus, try frostwire
[03:35] <Presnus> okay
[03:35] <BluesKaj> soulrider, try DL in the d-pkg from the java site , or using the auto install there
[03:35] <Presnus> googling :P
[03:35] <swanfl> it's a limewire equivalent
[03:35] <swanfl> and it's open source
[03:35] <notbbt> i think im gonna get my buddy to switch to kubuntu from winxp :)
[03:35] <swanfl> good deal notbbt
[03:35] <swanfl> :)
[03:36] <notbbt> in winxp, he uses thunderbird for mail, firefox for browser, and xchat for irc and absolutely loves all three
[03:36] <soulrider> i got multiverse anabled
[03:36] <soulrider> i get the same error
[03:36] <soulrider> with libxine-extracodecs
[03:36] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Just gonna have a peek now.
[03:36] <BluesKaj> cool, murchadh_bhaba
[03:37] <binary2k2> soulrider: can you post you /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin?
[03:37] <binary2k2> !pastebin
[03:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:38] <RealisticDragon> !eifka
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eifka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <soulrider> yes
[03:38] <soulrider> just a sec
[03:38] <Presnus> how can I install a deb package because when I click on it it says ""
[03:38] <Presnus> The utility is not in your PATH.
[03:38] <Presnus> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[03:38] <notbbt> and i said tonight to him, no strings attached but i'll bring my spare drive, put the live kubuntu on it, install it, get vmware and put winxp in it ( where it belongs really :) and what ya need you could go virtual with. hopefully will be after the weekend :)
[03:38] <soulrider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37179/
[03:39] <BluesKaj> notbbt, xchat isn't so great in linux ...altho we all love free stuff ..konversation is much better :)
[03:39] <notbbt> BluesKaj: i prefer konversation but hey, he's on the right path
[03:39] <RealisticDragon> xchat is nice because of the perl scripting
[03:40] <RealisticDragon> i wrote a complete IRC bot on with 3 lines of code, and one was importing the libraries for xchat :P
[03:40] <BluesKaj> yup murchadh_bhaba,  notbbt, no doubt about that :)
[03:40] <binary2k2> soulrider: you have multiverse in the backport repository, but not in the 'edgy' one
[03:40] <BluesKaj> RealisticDragon, which noob do you know uses perl scripting ? :)
[03:41] <binary2k2> soulrider: you need to add a line like this "deb http://uy.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse"
[03:41] <RealisticDragon> BluesKaj: hm well back in 199-something it wasnt uncommon :P
[03:41] <soulrider> oh, thanks
[03:42] <soulrider> binary2k2: isnt thats upposed ot come by default ?
[03:43] <binary2k2> soulrider: no
[03:43] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.ca/279975 have a gander at that.
[03:43] <binary2k2> soulrider: neither the universe or multiverse are enabled by default
[03:44] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, copy and paste ?
[03:44] <soulrider> but i did enable them
[03:46] <binary2k2> soulrider: you had universe enabled, but not multiverse on the main 'edgy' repository, only on the 'edgy-backports' repository
[03:47] <sercik> i can't install msttcorefonts some have experimented this problem and can love it?
[03:47] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Should do the trick. sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig first as backup. Then you can paste into the existing file or a new one.
[03:48] <sercik> the installer is not able to download the files from sourceforge mirror
[03:48] <sercik> but i can manually download it
[03:48] <soulrider> ah
[03:48] <sercik> it is possible to tell the installer to search on mt local disk fot the files?
[03:48] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, I suspect you may be using kate so kdesu kate /etc/fstab. Either comment out every line or delete every line. Then paste in what's in thje bin.
[03:48] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, /etc/fstab  won't open
[03:49] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[03:51] <symbulos> hi there
[03:52] <symbulos> just installed kubuntu 6.10 on laptop but the screen is completely blank when I startup
[03:52] <symbulos> do you know how to start in console mode?
[03:52] <osh_> symbulos: If it's an X problem you could press ctrl-alt-f1
[03:53] <osh_> symbulos: That'd give you a console.
[03:53] <murchadh_bhaba> symbulos, Press alt^F1 or F2 should get you to a terminal/konsole!
[03:54] <symbulos> I imagine it is a X problem due to the ati mobility x700 card
[03:54] <binary2k2> or just boot in to "recovery mode"
[03:54] <symbulos> but when I do alt + f1 i do not switch to console mode as I should
[03:55] <binary2k2> symbulos: then boot in to recovery mode
[03:55] <osh_> symbulos: try ctrl-alt-f1. not just alt-f1.
[03:55] <symbulos> I tried ctrl-alt-f1, without success
[03:55] <symbulos> after starting in recovery mode what do i do?
[03:56] <symbulos> the procedure i used for 6.06 was to install in text mode
[03:56] <binary2k2> symbulos: it will start in a single-user console mode
[03:56] <osh_> symbulos: then it's a reboot I'd say. start by looking for X-errors in /var/log/
[03:56] <symbulos> the switch to console mode, install ati driver, restart the machine, but now it does not work
[03:57] <symbulos> can I start in recovery mode and install the drivers from there?
[03:57] <osh_> symbulos: sure, just make sure you enable networking and other things you need.
[03:57] <binary2k2> symbulos: you'll want to boot in to the recovery mode (from the grub menu), then look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[03:58] <alexicon> hello
[03:58] <alexicon> im trying to reinstall kubuntu edgy on my laptop now because WIFI doesnt work at all
[03:58] <symbulos> thanks, I am doing it whilst we speak
[03:58] <alexicon> some dhcp release problem
[03:58] <alexicon> anyone else having issues??
[03:58] <alexicon> its really annoying not being able to use wifi in kubuntu
[03:59] <alexicon> i didnt have to do anything special to get it to work in dapper or in suse....
[03:59] <alexicon> it sees networks but i cant connect ever
[03:59] <alexicon> never gets the IP
[03:59] <sercik> l
[03:59] <alexicon> tried configuring it in kcontrol, kwifimanager, wlanassistant...
[04:00] <alexicon> nothing can connect to dhcp servers
[04:00] <alexicon> even open systems i cant connect to
[04:00] <osh_> alexicon: I have the same problem. fscking annoying. Just try to connect, then open a konsole and sudo dhclient <interface> and it'll work.
[04:00] <eMaX> re
[04:00] <alexicon> ok
[04:00] <alexicon> thanks osh_
[04:00] <alexicon> :/ just dont know how they could have released this in such a poor state
[04:00] <osh_> alexicon: replace <interface> with the name of your interface obviously.
[04:00] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, I hate to be such PITA but this the message when i try to open hda1
[04:01] <alexicon> yteah osh_
[04:01] <alexicon> seems like such a simple thing to fix as well
[04:01] <alexicon> !bug report
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug report - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <alexicon> !bugs
[04:01] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:02] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, http://pastebin.ca/279984
[04:02] <osh_> alexicon: if you want to see networking done right, have a look at mandriva 2007. Other issues there naturally but networking is just dead simple and wonderful. =)
[04:02] <alexicon> just wasting my time doing a reinstall -_- the live cd doesnt work with wifi anymore either...
[04:02] <alexicon> mandriva..
[04:02] <alexicon> i really hate rpm
[04:02] <alexicon> its so last century
[04:02] <alexicon> that said i use suse now since kubuntu has a lame leg
[04:02] <alexicon> but i still loathe rpms :P
[04:03] <alexicon> last time i used that it was called mandrake :P
[04:03] <osh_> suse... ah MS-Linux you mean... =)
[04:03] <alexicon> nah suse is beautiful
[04:03] <alexicon> and its got the best hardware detection ive even encountered
[04:03] <alexicon> take a lesson!
[04:03] <alexicon> you can see the money at work with suse
[04:03] <osh_> alexicon: sure, and they're also in bed with microsoft. =)
[04:03] <alexicon> lol
[04:03] <alexicon> well i'll pay my praise when we can write to ntfs
[04:04] <alexicon> usually im all for ubuntu but this wifi thing is unforgivable
[04:04] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Just havin a gander.
[04:04] <alexicon> i install linux for a lot of friends and this would really put people off
[04:04] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Type mount to see if it is already mounted (/dev/hda1)
[04:04] <BluesKaj> alexicon , that's what I'm trying to do ...write to the windows partition
[04:04] <alexicon> not going to happen BluesKaj
[04:04] <alexicon> not without some experimental modules that wont work anyway :P
[04:05] <symbulos> osh_ what should i look for in Xorg.0.log?
[04:05] <osh_> Except for the wifi the upgrade to edgy also broke my suspend-to-disk thingy. i should probably report it...
[04:05] <osh_> symbulos: errors
[04:05] <alexicon> yeah me too osh_
[04:05] <alexicon> -_-
[04:05] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, At a console type sudo umount /dev/hda1
[04:05] <BluesKaj> alexicon, according to others , we can
[04:05] <osh_> symbulos: Have a look at the last 10 lines or so.
[04:05] <alexicon> ive never seen it work, but yeah ive heard the rumours
[04:06] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, ok, done
[04:06] <alexicon> ntfs is evil
[04:06] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, At a console type sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[04:06] <binary2k2> symbulos: errors will start with (EE)
[04:06] <osh_> !ntfs
[04:06] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:06] <osh_> !fuse
[04:06] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:06] <symbulos> osh_ the only error is a error opening /dev/wacom
[04:06] <alexicon> interesting
[04:07] <BluesKaj> ok murchadh_bhaba, done as well
[04:07] <symbulos> what on earth is a /dev/wacom?
[04:07] <osh_> symbulos: that's odd. what'll happen if you run "startx"? Screen go blank again and you have to reboot?
[04:07] <osh_> symbulos: a pointing device.
[04:08] <symbulos> osh_ wait
[04:08] <osh_> symbulos: and can you kill X again with ctrl-alt-backspace?
[04:08] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Type sudo touch /media/hda1/testfile
[04:08] <symbulos> osh_ yes, screen gone balnk need to restart. i try to restart the xserver now.
[04:09] <murchadh_bhaba> symbulos, Tablet (pen thingy for drawing etc.)
[04:09] <symbulos> osh_  yes, screen gone balnk need to restart. i try to restart the xserver now.
[04:09] <BluesKaj> thx murchadh_bhaba, I just copied a music file to my windows my music folder ..COOL!
[04:09] <RealisticDragon> if you want a graphics tablet, buy a wacom :o
[04:09] <symbulos> murchadh_bhaba thanks
[04:09] <symbulos> osh_ yes, I can stop the xserver
[04:10] <symbulos> osh_ shall I install the ati drivers?
[04:10] <RealisticDragon> i tried a cheaper tablet and it was rubbish :( sold and brought a proper wacom tablet now :)
[04:10] <fadey> Hello, everyone. Does anybody know how could I find out all IPs assigned by my dhcp server to people
[04:11] <sercik> noone could explain me how to install msttcorefonts?
[04:12] <sercik> the installe rcan't donload andale32 etc. etc. from sourceforge
[04:12] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, I agree that ntfs is evil. I'm no advocate. Just had to do this for a few people. If there are no errors on the drive, and it mounts, it seems fine. I don't write much to it, I use it more to delete stuff from my WinXP partition. Although I haven't been in Win in 3 months.
[04:12] <alexicon> yeah murchadh_bhaba no doubt
[04:12] <alexicon> it would definately be handy to get it working consistantly
[04:12] <binary2k2> fadey: from the server you'll need to find "dhcpd.leases" somewhere in /var
[04:13] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, Read up on that driver. alexicon It's pretty sta
[04:13] <symbulos> osh_ what shall I do?
[04:13] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, Sorry, it's pretty straight forward.
[04:13] <alexicon> :)
[04:13] <alexicon> cool
[04:13] <BluesKaj> seems to work very quickly too , great stuff murchadh_bhaba :)
[04:14] <alexicon> murchadh_bhaba: the fuse one you mean?
[04:14] <fadey> binary2k2: But there I have all the history for all times. Is there a way to see only the recent leases&
[04:15] <BluesKaj> alexicon, here's a site that may help http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/howto-write-to-windows-ntfs-drive-from-ubuntu-ntfs-3g/
[04:15] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, Add givre's repository which I can paste bin for you, apt-get ntfs-3g, umount /dev/hda1 or whatever, sudo mount -t ntfs -o rw,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[04:15] <alexicon> cheers
[04:15] <alexicon> id like to be able to run my games from windows in kubuntu, think it will be ok with that?
[04:15] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, Assuming it is hda1 and mount point /media/hda1 exists
[04:15] <binary2k2> fadey: I don't know, It's been a while since I've run a dhcp server
[04:16] <fadey> binary2k2: :-(
[04:16] <alexicon> locate lease ! grep dhcp
[04:16] <alexicon> with a pipe not a !
[04:16] <alexicon> need to fix my xkb..
[04:16] <oem> Greetings
[04:17] <binary2k2> parties for everone #ubuntu-cafe
[04:17] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, You'll need some kind of emulator. I use wine, less and less though.
[04:17] <alexicon> party?? ^_^
[04:17] <alexicon> yeah wine
[04:17] <alexicon> i subscribe to cedega too
[04:17] <alexicon> wines been gettin better and better tho
[04:17] <alexicon> used to need cedega for wow
[04:17] <symbulos> help!
[04:17] <alexicon> but wine does a fine job now
[04:18] <symbulos> shall I install the proprietary ati driver?
[04:18] <sercik> hey please only a question...
[04:18] <alexicon> hmm
[04:18] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, cedega sounds the bomb allright. I don't really need Win any more. And Wine works for when I do. ??)
[04:19] <alexicon> :D
[04:19] <alexicon> yeah i havent used win in years actually
[04:19] <alexicon> i just got a laptop this summer tho
[04:19] <symbulos> osh_  murchadh_bhaba can I have the MOBILITY RADEON X700 work without using the propriatary driver?
[04:19] <alexicon> has winxp on it -_-
[04:20] <alexicon> since compiz doesnt like doing games, i started using windows again for it
[04:20] <alexicon> brb
[04:24] <murchadh_bhaba> alexicon, One of my kids uses my PC for Guitar Pro. I must see about trying to run it wine.
[04:25] <ScarFreewill> !rename
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <symbulos> ti
[04:25] <symbulos> !ati
[04:25] <murchadh_bhaba> !vesa
[04:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:25] <ScarFreewill> whats the e name command? lol :P
[04:25] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[04:25] <symbulos> !ifconfig
[04:25] <binary2k2> ScarFreewill: mv
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <ScarFreewill> binary2k2, thx
[04:25] <binary2k2> ScarFreewill: eg: mv file1.txt file2.txt :D
[04:26] <ScarFreewill> binary2k2, ok thx
[04:26] <murchadh_bhaba> symbulos, Did you see ubotu's reply above?
[04:27] <luca_b> Hello! A question for anyone using the shell: how do I sort a text file for fields that contain mixed characters(numbers,letters, hypens, points)
[04:29] <murchadh_bhaba> symbulos, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto - really good link!
[04:31] <alexicon> omg im a retard..
[04:31] <dr0fnax> !xgl
[04:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:31] <alexicon> lol
[04:35] <dreamer> dude :P
[04:36] <alexicon> i know this partition table better than the back of my hand :P
[04:36] <nagyv> hello! could someone explain me how can I use amarok's media storage with an usb stick? I just would like to copy files to the stick and listen to track already on the stick.
[04:39] <case> !libarts1-dev
[04:39] <ubotu> libarts1-dev: development files for the aRts sound system core components. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1171 kB, installed size 6364 kB
[04:39] <Adlai> nagyv, when you put in the stick, amarok should detect it as a media device
[04:39] <Adlai> if not, mount it yourself and use the "files" tab in amarok to copy/play things
[04:42] <nagyv> Adlai: it recognizes it, but which "plugin" should I use? generic audio player or music sharing? Under the files tab I can not copy, just play.
[04:42] <Adlai> dunno, try both
[04:43] <Adlai> if you mount it as a regular drive with user privileges you shouldn't have trouble copying to it though
[04:43] <Adlai> if you're mounting it as root that's your problem
[04:43] <alexicon> it should be mounted as the user when its put in anyway though
[04:43] <nagyv> Adlai: I mount it as a regular drive (with kubuntus automatic pmount script)
[04:43] <alexicon> amarok just notices when its mounted
[04:43] <alexicon> yeah
[04:44] <Adlai> what error do you get when you try to copy files to it
[04:44] <alexicon> you trying to add files to the usb thing or remove them
[04:44] <alexicon> or do both not work
[04:44] <symbulos> !network
[04:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:45] <alexicon> whats up symbulos
[04:45] <alexicon> got wifi hassles?
[04:45] <RoKFiT> maybe because i am on kubuntu
[04:46] <alexicon> @_@
[04:46] <nagyv> I select "Transfer to Media Device", then under the media devices tab there is a transfer queue. If I choose Generic audio player, then I can not transfer it from the queue. If I choose Music Sharing then I get "Failed to copy track to media device: /media/maxtor1/Anima S S/anima sound system - '68.mp3"
[04:46] <shadowhywind> hay all, ever sense yesterday * i screwed soemthing up* When ever i open up adept, it says another proccess is using it so I can't make any changes and i forgot what the konsole command was to fix it
[04:47] <murchadh_bhaba> There's that BluesKaj back again. Lovely....
[04:47] <alexicon> permissions all ok nagyv?
[04:48] <alexicon> BluesKaj: do you hang out in #bash?
[04:48] <Adlai> nagyv, just go to the files tab, not the media player tab
[04:48] <nagyv> alexicon: it should be ok
[04:48] <Adlai> navigate to /media/maxtor1 and try to copy there
[04:48] <nagyv> Adlai: and what to do there?
[04:48] <symbulos> does anyone know hw to maually configure a network so that the ip address is fetched using dhcp (no graphics)?
[04:49] <nagyv> I tried to drop the file from the playlist, but it did not worked
[04:49] <Adlai> see if it's a problem with your permissions or amarok
[04:49] <nagyv> Adlai: but I would like to copy from /media/maxtor1 to /media/usbstick
[04:49] <shadowhywind> symbulos do you mean like dhcpcd eth0 (in konsole)
[04:49] <nagyv> Adlai: how could I check that?
[04:49] <Adlai> well then navigate to /media/usbstick
[04:50] <Adlai> or, better yet, open each in your favorite file manager and copy that way
[04:50] <symbulos> shadowhywind well this is the first time I try to do it by hand, because I need to download the ati drivers in text mode
[04:50] <nagyv> Adlai: yes this was the boring way, that I wanted to avoid, given that I have to select a lot of tracks from even more tracks :)
[04:50] <case> how can i create a local mirror?
[04:51] <symbulos> shadowhywind but I do not know where to start from
[04:51] <Adlai> symbulos, /etc/init.d/net.<interface> start
[04:51] <Adlai> symbulos, if you haven't changed /etc/conf.d/net, it'll automatically choose dhcpcd
[04:51] <Adlai> (I think...that's how it works on gentoo)
[04:51] <alexicon> is it net.interface or networking?
[04:52] <Adlai> net.interface
[04:52] <symbulos> Adlai no, I had to install the modules for my network by hand, because it is agere et131x, not yet in kernel
[04:52] <alexicon> thats for gentoo
[04:52] <alexicon> i think ubuntu uses networking
[04:52] <Adlai> so /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
[04:52] <Adlai> oh really
[04:52] <Adlai> alright then, I'll shut up
[04:52] <Adlai> symbulos, do you have dhcpcd installed?
[04:53] <symbulos> Adlai, no I am looking for it now
[04:53] <Adlai> that's a good first step
[04:54] <alexicon> everything should be there already tho right. everything to connect to dhcp anyway
[04:54] <Adlai> you should be able to run "dhcpcd <interface>" after that and have it work
[04:54] <RoKFiT> what package do i need to install for gstreamer?
[04:54] <alexicon> maybe not serving..
[04:54] <alexicon> gstreamer :P
[04:54] <alexicon> heh
[04:54] <alexicon> gstreamer-0.8 or whatever
[04:54] <RoKFiT> k
[04:56] <RoKFiT> there are like 10 packages
[04:56] <RoKFiT> no 20
[04:57] <symbulos> Adlai do I have to shut down the eth0 interface before proceeding?
[04:57] <Adlai> ?
[04:57] <malik__> gstreamer0.10 for edgy
[04:58] <Adlai> bring down using ifconfig or stop the initscript
[04:58] <symbulos> Adlai, where is the dhcpcd package, cannot find it
[04:59] <Adlai> dunno on kubuntu
[04:59] <Adlai> try apt-cache search dhcp
[04:59] <alexicon> symbulos: no just restart the interface, it should notice the updated configuration
[04:59] <symbulos> alexicon, what updated interface?
[04:59] <alexicon> well if you change the network configuration then do the /etc/init.d/networking restart it should do the dhcp
[05:00] <alexicon> it should do dhcp by default anyway tho
[05:00] <alexicon> going to reboot my install brb!
[05:00] <sponix> anyone else have issues with kspread crashing when you save ?
[05:02] <murchadh_bhaba> symbulos, dhcpd3
[05:03] <alexicon> ok
[05:04] <symbulos> murchadh_bhaba there is no dhcpcd in dhcpd3
[05:04] <towync> hello world
[05:04] <vado> Re
[05:04] <towync> why doesn't beryl work on my comp =((((
[05:04] <towync> *sniff sniff* lol
[05:07] <alexicon> anyone have trouble enabling nvidia drivers?
[05:07] <towync> what does that mean
[05:07] <symbulos> situation has improved ethernet is up and running but I keep getting no route to host
[05:07] <cpk1> blah the edgy live cd has the same problem for me that the dapper one did but worse
[05:07] <alexicon> symbulos: can you connect to external sites?
[05:08] <alexicon> check your /etc/resolve.conf
[05:08] <symbulos> alexicon no. also i do not have any text browser because on the cd there is none, so I can't check
[05:08] <cpk1> i get garbely gook as output on my monitor but on the edgy cd starting in safe mode doesnt fix it =\
[05:08] <towync> kjh
[05:08] <Adlai> towync, what graphics card?
[05:08] <alexicon> umm
[05:08] <alexicon> theres gotta be vim
[05:08] <towync> me?
[05:08] <towync> i use nvidia 5900
[05:08] <towync> fx
[05:08] <Adlai> dunno then, sorry
[05:09] <Adlai> I only have ati experience
[05:09] <Adlai> still bitter, too
[05:09] <alexicon> whats up towync
[05:09] <alexicon> nvidia++ ;D
[05:09] <wincide> hi all, do someone knows the name of a kde desktop recorder to make videotutorials ???
[05:09] <towync> what's up alexicon =)
[05:09] <towync> cool thx adlai
[05:09] <Dr_willis> wincide,  ive heard of some that record vnc sessions. none 'kde specific'
[05:09] <alexicon> whats up with your nvidia towync
[05:09] <towync> nothing
[05:09] <alexicon> oh ok
[05:09] <alexicon> heh
[05:09] <towync> i don't know
[05:10] <towync> i think Adlai wanted to help me with beryl
[05:10] <towync> so Adlai was asking earlier
[05:10] <Adlai> class nvidia { 5.times {@awesomeness++}}
[05:10] <towync> what does that mean =)
[05:10] <Adlai> yeah, his glx effects are messed
[05:10] <towync> for me, it always says xgl not found
[05:10] <towync> which is confusing cuz i thought edgy comes with aiglx
[05:11] <Adlai> towync, try #ubuntu-xgl
[05:11] <alexicon> you got the glx driver installed properly??
[05:11] <towync> isn't that supposed to be better already
[05:11] <towync> i know that channel
[05:11] <towync> everyone tells me to go there
[05:11] <towync> =)
[05:11] <Adlai> and?
[05:11] <towync> and i'm still asking lol
[05:11] <towync> everytime i start beryl it says
[05:11] <alexicon> "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable". that ALWAYS fails for me
[05:11] <towync> xgl not found, nvidia ok, starting without xgtl
[05:11] <towync> then freeze =)
[05:12] <alexicon> yeah towync
[05:12] <alexicon> i cant get the nvidia-glx working consistantly on kubuntu
[05:12] <towync> it's a black background too when it freezes
[05:12] <towync> i can still move mouse, but then nothing responds to mouse
[05:12] <towync> ic
[05:12] <towync> is it better in ubuntu?
[05:12] <towync> i'm thinking of reinstalling everything =)
[05:12] <alexicon> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[05:12] <alexicon> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[05:12] <alexicon> but ive got nvidia-kernel-common
[05:12] <gnomefreak> whats the key combo for screenshot in kde?
[05:12] <towync> cuz the first time i installed, which was like 2 weeks ago, i didn't know anything about linux
[05:13] <alexicon> i dont think its any different in ubuntu :(
[05:13] <alexicon> if it is let me know
[05:13] <Adlai> xgl is old though, use either aiglx or the native nvidia glx effects (that I think exist)
[05:13] <towync> i only switched cuz my windows crashed and i don't have cd anymore
[05:13] <alexicon> gnomefreak: printscr :P
[05:13] <gnomefreak> alexicon: tried
[05:13] <towync> yeah aiglx comes with edgy right
[05:13] <alexicon> im tryin nvidia-glx
[05:13] <alexicon> but no joy
[05:13] <gnomefreak> alexicon: tried alt+printscreen ctrl+prsc. and so on
[05:13] <alexicon> if i manually change the driver to nvidia it freaks out
[05:13] <coreymon77> okay
[05:14] <coreymon77> today at lunch im gonna try to do that qparted thing on my friends laptop that i was talking about lastnight
[05:14] <towync> is it a good idea to download feisty herd1 now?
[05:14] <towync> what's qparted?
[05:14] <alexicon> partitioning tool
[05:14] <coreymon77> towync: i usuallly dont do that until rcs
[05:14] <alexicon> qtparted
[05:14] <towync> cool
[05:14] <binary2k2> towync: not unless you're a developer or a bug fixer
[05:14] <towync> coreymon77 ic =)
[05:14] <towync> cool
[05:15] <towync> how do people become developers
[05:15] <coreymon77> a partitioning tool that apparently can risize ntfs partitions without damaging them
[05:15] <binary2k2> learn C++
[05:15] <coreymon77> is this correct
[05:15] <towync> no i meant assuming u already can program, how do u become developers
[05:15] <coreymon77> will it be able to (when running off of the dapper livecd) resize my friends ntfs partition without damaging the data on it?
[05:15] <coreymon77> is qparted able to do that?
[05:16] <alexicon> you start developing then give the project your updates :P
[05:16] <alexicon> if what you write is good it will get used
[05:16] <coreymon77> can i get an answer quickly, i have to go very soon
[05:16] <alexicon> helps to join channels
[05:16] <coreymon77> can qparted do that
[05:16] <alexicon> yeah coreymon77
[05:16] <coreymon77> will it be able to (when running off of the dapper livecd) resize my friends ntfs partition without damaging the data on it?
[05:16] <coreymon77> okay
[05:16] <coreymon77> food
[05:16] <alexicon> it will repartition it safe
[05:16] <coreymon77> good*
[05:16] <towync> but who decides what is good and what gets put in the distribution
[05:16] <Adlai> coreymon77, you can do it with norton partition magic
[05:16] <kilrae_> yes, but this is not legal advice
[05:16] <gnomefreak> alexicon: ok is there a way to do it with menu open? i found out prtscr. works just not with menu open
[05:16] <Adlai> dunno about qtparted
[05:16] <coreymon77> w/e
[05:16] <coreymon77> ive been told qparted does it
[05:16] <Adlai> kilrae_, yes it is, if he buys it
[05:16] <coreymon77> and its free
[05:17] <alexicon> towync: if theres something you want to work on, start doing it. join the irc channel talk to the other developers
[05:17] <coreymon77> anyways
[05:17] <coreymon77> thanks
[05:17] <alexicon> its up to the maintainers to decide if they want to use your changes
[05:17] <coreymon77> gtg
[05:17] <kilrae_> buys what, kubuntu or the advice?
[05:17] <towync> alexicon do people just vote on what gets put in a distribution?
[05:17] <alexicon> no
[05:17] <Adlai> partition magic; thought you were talking to me
[05:17] <towync> alexicon o, who decides then
[05:17] <alexicon> it depends on the project
[05:17] <alexicon> what do you want to develop towync
[05:17] <alexicon> big projects have a big hierarchy
[05:18] <alexicon> small projects you can usually talk to the main developer and get them to add stuff you write if they like it
[05:18] <kilrae_> Adlai: i'm saying that resizing partitions sometimes fails, in which case, nobody here it legally responsible
[05:18] <alexicon> or fork it for your own project
[05:18] <alexicon> whatever
[05:18] <towync> alexicon i guess i'm wondering how linux companies work
[05:18] <alexicon> gpl ftw
[05:18] <gnomefreak> towync: file a bug on what you want to be put it.
[05:18] <alexicon> thats a complicated question towync
[05:18] <alexicon> and its different for every company
[05:18] <alexicon> "company"
[05:18] <towync> alexicon but how do they even function at all, they don't sell stuff right
[05:18] <alexicon> they sell support
[05:18] <gnomefreak> towync: there is a whole SP for it but i dont have the instructions on hand give me a minute i will see if i have them
[05:18] <alexicon> to big companies that use 100 of copies of their software
[05:19] <towync> alexicon there's a number i can dial in to tell them to fix my beryl? hehe
[05:19] <alexicon> most small projects dont make any money#
[05:19] <alexicon> towync: if you pay them im sure theyll fix it :P
[05:19] <towync> gnomefreak thx =)
[05:19] <alexicon> the point is its free so you can sort it out yourself
[05:19] <gnomefreak> towync: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureSpecifications
[05:19] <towync> gnomefreak thx =)
[05:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:19] <kilrae_> and i'm never upgrading or reinstalling again, i doubt I could do it twice
[05:19] <alexicon> lol kilrae_
[05:20] <kilrae_> i'm afraid to even restart my computer
[05:20] <alexicon> i used to be afraid of doing that in gentoo lol
[05:20] <alexicon> !nvidia
[05:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:20] <cpk1> umm is vi different in edgy?
[05:20] <alexicon> vi is different from vim
[05:20] <towync> !towync
[05:20] <alexicon> edgy uses vim 7
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about towync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <alexicon> but its pretty much the same
[05:21] <towync> i still am afraid of restarting my computer lol
[05:21] <kilrae_> i downloaded a bunch of videos, but video playback with beryl running isn't so great, so i need to restart in regular xorg, but i'm scared
[05:21] <cpk1> i see so whats insert then?
[05:21] <alexicon> OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:21] <cpk1> because i isnt working
[05:21] <alexicon> i can paste links directly in to the browser window in ff again :DDDDDDDDDD
[05:21] <alexicon> joy
[05:21] <alexicon> i is insert
[05:21] <alexicon> press esc then try i again
[05:22] <alexicon> i insert, a append
[05:22] <towync> sometimes i can hear harddrive shuts down, but somehow something, either graphics card or the fan still runs cuz i get a blank black screen
[05:22] <kilrae_> then give up and use nano :P
[05:22] <towync> !nano
[05:22] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[05:22] <towync> i knew that
[05:22] <towync> lol =)
[05:22] <kilrae_> or as i still call it: pico
[05:23] <kilrae_> someday they'll remove that link
[05:23] <towync> there should be like 1 and only 1, instead of so many choises
[05:23] <kilrae_> and i won't know how to text edit
[05:23] <towync> yeah there should be one and only one text editor
[05:23] <j03> !php
[05:23] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:27] <towync> lol
[05:27] <alexicon> hahaha
[05:27] <towync> i'm getting vista only cuz i'm getting new comp and it comes with it
[05:28] <towync> o u guys should all go to http://www.cyberpowerpc.com for new computers, they have so much great stuff
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> towync: don't pay the MS tax
[05:28] <towync> it's like newegg.com except limited to computer stuff
[05:28] <alexicon> build my own pcs
[05:28] <kilrae> my only computer running windows has no cdrom, so i couldn't install vista on it, and the lack of a cdrom is the only thing stopping me from installing linux
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> read the EULA, they have to give you money back if you don't use their softway
[05:28] <towync> as in u buy all separate parts and put them together alexicon?
[05:28] <towync> cuz that's what they do
[05:28] <alexicon> yeah towync
[05:28] <towync> i like cyberpowerpc so much, cheap stuff, great stuff =)
[05:28] <kilrae> that sounds expensive
[05:29] <nagyv> where it this under kde System->Preferences->Sessions, click the "Startup Programs" (this is the Gnome way, I would like to get to a similar page under KDE)
[05:29] <kilrae> nagyv: so would it :P
[05:29] <kilrae> i
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> nagyv: ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:29] <kilrae> so would i
[05:29] <kilrae> that's it
[05:29] <kilrae> well la di da mister admiral
[05:29] <cpk1> alright anyone think of any reasons why the edy live cd just gives me bars of bluish/purple when it tries to start X?
[05:30] <cpk1> edgy*
[05:30] <towync> is anyone using nvidia 8800 here?
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> cpk1: driver?
[05:30] <towync> !nvidia
[05:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <goodthing> what could the reason why edgy does not want to boot my system with a second and third SATA disk? (IDLE at "Mounting root file system..."   See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:33] <alexicon> I LOVE NVIDIA
[05:33] <alexicon> id never use ati
[05:33] <alexicon> not with linux anyway
[05:33] <towync> what games do u play?
[05:33] <towync> and how is it with nvidia
[05:33] <towync> like i have a nvidia go 7400 on my laptop, but it doesn't feel that much bettern than my nvidia fx 5900
[05:34] <towync> cuz the 7400 go only has 4 pipelines, what the heck...
[05:34] <towync> how do u say that =)
[05:34] <towync> * towync slap free software around some more with a medium trout
[05:35] <alexicon> yeah towync thats what iev got
[05:35] <kilrae> how?  i typed it
[05:35] <towync> i typed it too =(
[05:35] <towync> and it doesn't come out hehe
[05:35] <towync> did u have a sony laptop alexicon?
[05:35] <fdoving> towync: you can use '/say what you want to say' i think..
[05:35] <towync> cuz i got mine from costco 1100
[05:35] <towync> hi
[05:35] <nagyv> under system settings->Monitor&Display I get the error: The Monitor&Display modul could not be loaded. Possible reasons: (1) there is a problem after upgrading from a previous kde version, (2) an old, third party modul messes up the system. How could I find out a more exact problem?
[05:35] <fdoving> towync: or /me something..
[05:35] <kilrae> ohhhh, /me
[05:35] <towync> thx =)
[05:36] <towync> oops
[05:36] <cpk1> going to try changing nv to vesa
[05:36] <towync> didn't mean to emote that
[05:36] <towync> me stands for emote right
[05:37] <kilrae> i thought it stood for 'me'
[05:37] <cpk1> hooray that did the trick
[05:37] <kilrae> you know: me does something or other
[05:37] <towync> o
[05:37] <towync> cool
[05:37] <towync> !me
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <towync> !/me
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <towync> just testing =)
[05:38] <towync> !ubotu
[05:38] <kilrae> !anything
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <towync> oo gotta run, good luck everyone, with whatever ur working on, lates all
[05:38] <towync> !bye
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <goodthing> anyone knows why adding disk is making edgy to stall at boot?
[05:39] <towync> i have a test tomorrow and i wanna cry lol
[05:39] <jamaur> hey everyone, does anybody know how to remove the kasbar?
[05:39] <towync> actually that's what i'm going to do now, piece all=)
[05:40] <kilrae> :O apt-get emailed me! i feel so special
[05:41] <cpk2> Admiral_Chicago: apparently safemode didnt force vesa
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ah...where did you get this?
[05:42] <cpk1> well in safe mode i was still able to switch to tty1 so i just edited xorg from there
[05:42] <cpk1> this explains why safe mode worked on the dapper live cd but not edgy live
[05:43] <kilrae> the xorg made by system control is kinda messy
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> cpk1: check Laundpad,
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> might be a bug
[05:43] <cpk1> i read the very beginning of a lunchpad bug post which is what made me realize i was supposed to have vesa not nv so i think it is already documented
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> haha, figures
[05:47] <cpk1> backing up /etc and then i think i will be ready to wipe my dapper install and get edgy
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !lts
[05:55] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:55] <cpk1> by coincedence i have an unused partition that is 256mB this is plenty of room for /boot right?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> 50mb is plen ty for /boot
[05:56] <eMaX> anyone here uses cross over office? my screen goes blank whenever I open a windows application. when I switch back to console and back, everything is ok
[05:56] <Dr_willis> use of /boot - isent really needed these days
[05:56] <cpk1> what else am I going to use that partition for =P
[05:57] <Dr_willis> swap
[05:57] <casev01> hi, im going tu upgrade the linux-image and i have installed vmware, i will need to reinstall it?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:57] <cpk1> i have a 2gig swap already
[05:57] <Dr_willis> more swap
[05:57] <cpk1> haha
[05:57] <Dr_willis> swap swap..
[05:57] <Dr_willis> enctypted porn drive
[05:57] <kilrae> grrrr
[05:58] <kilrae> it would seem that running xgl at high resolutions is harder on the computer
[05:59] <eMaX> how can I check the color depth in ubuntu
[06:01] <nagyv> beryl is running! :)
[06:01] <kilrae> huzzah!
[06:01] <RoKFiT> so there isn't a fix for audio popping?
[06:01] <l3mr> whenever i try to go to console mode in kdm, i just get a black screen... help!
[06:02] <RoKFiT> then is there any way i can get OSS working?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !oss
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:04] <Dr_willis> l3mr,  so from X, if ya try alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 - you also have the same issue?
[06:06] <alfred> Anybody know what is included on the DVD for Kubuntu Edgy 6.10?
[06:06] <kilrae> nagyv: does your super key work?
[06:07] <l3mr> Dr_willis: yes. it seems it cannot go back to the console mode once X was initialised.
[06:07] <cpk1> alfred: its the livecd +++++packages
[06:07] <nagyv> kilrae: I am just trying out the keys, but I reset the winkey as a win key should work. So it's not "super", but simply super. :)
[06:07] <nagyv> and it works as I expect
[06:07] <nagyv> it opens the k-menu
[06:07] <kilrae> mine doesn't open the kmenu :P
[06:08] <kilrae> :(
[06:08] <alfred> I tried the live CD and it was a bit bare. As an example: Does it include Samba, Squid etc?
[06:08] <nagyv> kilrae: would you like to get my setup?
[06:09] <eMaX> re
[06:09] <eMaX> anyone here has wine running under kubuntu?
[06:09] <kilrae> well, iirc it worked on the default, but after i deleted the original kmenu and made a new one up top it stopped working
[06:09] <Dr_willis> l3mr, theres 2 possibilities.. one is the 'framebuffer' support is messing you up. That can be disabled by the 'nofb' option to the kernel/grub options.. OR its possible that the X drivers are messing things up.
[06:09] <kilrae> so i'm guessing it has to know which kmenu to open
[06:09] <Dr_willis> l3mr,  you could boot, and not start kdm (thus booting straight to the console)  and IF it works then.. well that points to an X Driver issue. If booting straight to the console  dont work - that imples a framebuffer issue.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> eMaX,  for some odd reason wine dont run stuff for me that it used to .. any more.. not sure what the deal is.
[06:10] <eMaX> well for me the display goes black when I start any windoze app, switching back and forth via a text console brings back the image
[06:10] <cpk1> hrmm wine has bee great for me lately
[06:11] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  the few apps i run with it. dont even start - wine just crashes..
[06:11] <cpk1> =\
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Yep - a bit annoying.
[06:11] <cpk1> although I almost always get my roomate to install the game on his windows and then just copy the whole directory over
[06:12] <cpk1> thats the most headache free way of getting things to work
[06:12] <alfred> Can anybody point me to a link (maybe on Kubuntu's Website, that gives me some idea of what is included on the DVD? It just talks about the CD. That's for Edgy 6.10
[06:12] <Dr_willis> DVD is the live cd + the alt install cd - I thought.
[06:12] <cpk1> i thought it was also +++packages
[06:12] <l3mr> Dr_willis: framebuffer is disabled, always was.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Of course any packages they include would proberly be out of date and need updated anyway. :)
[06:12] <l3mr> Dr_willis: i get the same problem with the proprietary nvidia driver as with the nv
[06:13] <Dr_willis> l3mr,  bummer.. try disabling KDM, and using 'startx' see if exiting out of X then resets them back to normal?
[06:13] <binary2k2> alfred: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.manifest
[06:13] <cpk1> oh btw in edgy how do you get it to show folders like /etc and stuff but not show .somefolder folders?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[06:14] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[06:14] <binary2k2> cpk1: edit /.hidden
[06:14] <alfred> Updating isn't an issue, guessing that Kubuntu has some kind of update applet?
[06:14] <cpk1> cool thanks
[06:14] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  or are you refering to .whatever type directories?
[06:15] <cpk1> huh?
[06:15] <nceterval> Hello, I'm having trouble upgrading from Dapper to Edgy using apt.  I changed my sources to the new repository, but the dist-upgrade failed.  I tried apt-get -f install and get the following error: http://pastebin.ca/280096    What can I do to fix this and complete the upgrade?