[00:00] <MrChrisDruif> That you do not want an overboard laptop of ~$2000,- ;)
[00:00] <MrChrisDruif> My next thing is prolly gonna be a tablet on which I can plug in a keyboard ofc :P
[00:00] <gunndawg> MrChrisDruif: well I wanna keep it simple and light, maybe a bigg hdd but thats about all this laptop lacks
[00:01] <gunndawg> aside from a short battery life
[00:01] <paultag> 00:00 < MrChrisDruif> My next thing is prolly gonna be a tablet on which I can plug in a keyboard ofc :P
[00:01] <paultag> sorry
[00:01] <paultag> double click + middle click
[00:01] <MrChrisDruif> What?
[00:01] <paultag> damn mouse
[00:01] <paultag> 00:01 <+paultag> sorry
[00:01] <paultag> 00:01 <+paultag> double click + middle click
[00:01] <paultag> 00:01 <+paultag> damn mouse
[00:01] <MrChrisDruif> Touchscreen ftw? :P
[00:01] <paultag> ftl :P
[00:03] <gunndawg> still wish I could get weechat configured so that the channel list and timestamp area didnt take up so much screen realestate
[00:05] <MrChrisDruif> ftl? For the laptop?
[00:06] <paultag> for the loss MrChrisDruif
[00:06] <MrChrisDruif> :P
[00:34] <seidos> i guess it's my flow
[01:03] <seidos> any ideas why i can't paste in an irssi window anymore?
[01:03] <seidos> ah, i'll log out of fluxbox and try gnome, could be why
[01:17] <GunnDawg> hey guys, I installed xubuntu-desktop just to try it out but now it automatically loads even when I pick Ubuntu Desktop from the login screen. How do I get rid of it? its also taken over my theme in Ubuntu
[01:19] <MrChrisDruif> GunnDawg: you've installed it inside of Ubuntu? If so, open Synaptic and search for Xubuntu
[01:21] <GunnDawg> MrChrisDruif: k it found a few things
[01:21] <GunnDawg> little things though like xubuntu-docs and plymouth themes
[01:22] <MrChrisDruif> The plymouth is start-up screen...
[01:22] <GunnDawg> MrChrisDruif: yeah I know
[01:22] <GunnDawg> got rid of everything I could find that had to do with xubuntu
[01:22] <GunnDawg> should I restart ?
[01:22] <MrChrisDruif> Did you apply changes?
[01:23] <GunnDawg> yes
[01:23] <GunnDawg> its done its thing
[01:23] <yofel> logout should be enough
[01:23] <GunnDawg> ok lemme try
[01:24] <MrChrisDruif> When he comes back, ask if he didn't have xubuntu-desktop selected :P
[01:26] <GunnDawg> ok back, I think it worked, but now my emerald themes wont apply
[01:26] <GunnDawg> grr
[01:29] <MrChrisDruif> Is emerald still installed?
[01:31] <GunnDawg> MrChrisDruif: yes
[01:31] <MrChrisDruif> Then it should work right?
[01:31] <GunnDawg> it should, yes
[01:32] <MrChrisDruif> But it doesn't?
[01:32] <GunnDawg> correct
[01:32] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmm....I dunno...:)
[01:33] <GunnDawg> :(
[01:33] <MrChrisDruif> I always recommend to test things on a secondary computer...or VM...
[01:33] <MrChrisDruif> Off again <_<"
[01:35] <gunndawg> well this bites!
[01:35] <MrChrisDruif> What does? Except snakes? :P
[01:36] <gunndawg> the fact that I cant get my emerald theme back
[01:36] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmm....weird...was it last time difficult to set up? Are you going through the same steps?
[01:37] <gunndawg> wasnt difficult no, you just launch emerald theme manager and click the theme you want and it applies it
[01:37] <gunndawg> I am clicking on them now, and they dont apply
[01:37] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe try to reinstall emerald with synaptic?
[01:40] <gunndawg> i'll try
[01:41] <gunndawg> no luck
[01:41] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know how it works with theme downloaden, does emerald do it self?
[01:42] <gunndawg> yes
[01:42] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmm...
[01:42] <MrChrisDruif> Then I don't know what else you could do....maybe someone else knows anything...
[01:43] <MrChrisDruif> One last thing you could try: completely remove (incl. settings(or how they call it)) in synaptic
[01:43] <MrChrisDruif> And reinstall after that ...
[01:53] <gunndawg> incl settings ?
[02:32] <MrMintanet> Hey dudes.  I am trying to get an NES emulator setup for my son, and I am failing hard.  I can't get GFCE to be the default program to open NES files.  I tried to right click, and select the GFCE, but it isn't in the list.  Where does it install, and how can I get it to be the default NES emulator?  Any help is appreciated!  :)
[02:33] <paultag> MrMintanet: hey man
[02:34] <paultag> MrMintanet: well, it's kinda funny, it's handled by MIME types
[02:34] <paultag> MrMintanet: the best way is to open it from the application it's self
[02:34] <MrMintanet> Yea, but it's for a 6 year old.
[02:34] <paultag> Hum, truth.
[02:34] <paultag> MrMintanet: let me pull docs. Moment.
[02:34] <MrMintanet> Thanks!
[02:34] <paultag> MrMintanet: you'd not happen to be a commandline rockstar, would you?
[02:35] <MrMintanet> Nope.  I'm a huge noob
[02:35] <paultag> righto.
[02:35] <paultag> MrMintanet: do you know the basics, cd / ls / etc ?
[02:35] <MrMintanet> kinda
[02:35] <MrMintanet> I'm a huge Windoze guy
[02:35] <MrMintanet> But I did install a ported version of 10.10 onto an iBook G4...
[02:35] <MrMintanet> Does that count for something?  *grin*
[02:36] <paultag> MrMintanet: OK. slam out to where your NES images are and run the command `file' on the NES images, and let's see if it identifies right
[02:36] <paultag> MrMintanet: it counts for something ;)
[02:36] <MrMintanet> Ok.  One sec.
[02:38] <MrMintanet> Ok
[02:38] <MrMintanet> I'm in the directory
[02:38] <paultag> MrMintanet: run the command `file' on one of the files, please
[02:38] <MrChrisDruif> gunndawg: sorry for late response: yes, incl settings...
[02:39] <MrChrisDruif> That's what I suggest....
[02:39] <MrMintanet> Do you mind if I just copy/paste in here?  It's not that long.
[02:39] <MrMintanet> Two lines
[02:39] <paultag> MrMintanet: two lines is fine :)
[02:40] <MrMintanet> Actually... just one line:  Xexyz.nes: iNES ROM dump, 8x16k PRG, 16x8k CHR, [Horiz.]
[02:40] <paultag> great, that's good
[02:41] <MrChrisDruif> But I'm off...ttyl guys
[02:41] <paultag> MrMintanet: can you run `file' with a -i flag?
[02:41] <MrMintanet> Sure
[02:41] <paultag> MrMintanet: thanks :) -- that'll give us the MIME type of the file
[02:41] <MrMintanet> Xexyz.nes: application/octet-stream; charset=binary
[02:42] <paultag> great
[02:42] <MrMintanet> Got it
[02:43] <MrMintanet> I just ran it with a custom command
[02:43] <MrMintanet> "gfceu"
[02:43] <paultag> well yeah :)
[02:43] <paultag> but you need to change the mime linkage
[02:43] <paultag> MrMintanet: http://www.johannes-eva.net/change-the-default-application-ubuntu-linux <-- under " Change the default app for
[02:43] <paultag> multiple
[02:43] <paultag> filetypes
[02:43] <MrMintanet> Oh cool
[02:43] <paultag> lordy that sucks
[02:43] <MrMintanet> Ok, thanks so much
[02:43] <paultag> wonder why that newlines so much
[02:43] <paultag> MrMintanet: yeah, no problem. Lucky it identifies so well ;)
[02:44] <MrMintanet> This is one major issue I have with Ubuntu.
[02:44] <MrMintanet> But... it's just another speed bump that I've overcome, which only motivates me more to stick with it!
[02:44] <gunndawg> what are Incl settings ?
[02:44] <MrMintanet> Be back later....  I'm sure.  :)
[02:44] <paultag> MrMintanet: you could totally add it in the "run with" menu
[02:44] <gunndawg> I am trying to get emerald to work again
[02:44] <paultag> MrMintanet: but it's a bit more dicy and I'm not at my workstation to get the defaults right now
[02:44] <paultag> MrMintanet: good luck!
[02:46] <gunndawg> I installed xubuntu inside of ubuntu and it ruined my emerald theme for ubuntu, so I uninstalled xubuntu, uinstalled/reinstalled emerald and none of the emerald themes will apply
[02:52] <gunndawg> back
[02:52] <gunndawg> so anyone have any input in regards to my emerald theme problem ?
[02:54] <gunndawg> emerald --replace seemed to have fixed things up
[02:57] <gunndawg> actually that only works if I keep the terminal window open that I ran it from, anyway to perm. use --replace
[03:57] <MrMintanet> fceu is launching my ,rom files but not playing audio.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[08:40] <kristian-aalborg> it happened again, the sudden death that it
[08:40] <kristian-aalborg> is
[08:41] <kristian-aalborg> I think the problem might be the fan
[08:46] <kristian-aalborg> hm, vacuumed it, hopefully that will be enough
[08:48] <duanedesign> kristian-aalborg: thats no good :\
[08:49] <kristian-aalborg> vacuuming?
[08:49] <duanedesign> nosudden death
[08:49] <duanedesign> :)
[08:50] <kristian-aalborg> yeah, it's not really a good sign ;)
[08:50] <duanedesign> you can use the command  acpi -t  to monitor the cpu temp
[08:58]  * kristian-aalborg tries that
[09:03] <kristian-aalborg> it gives me "40C" no matter what I do, I think something is malfunctioning :(
[10:09] <nlsthzn> is lm-sensors installed?
[10:53] <GunnDawg> got quiet in here
[11:00]  * head_victim drops a pin to see if anyone notices
[11:00] <bioterror> GunnDawg, if you want to chat, join #ubuntu-beginners-team
[11:07] <JackyAlcine> It's pretty early by me.
[11:38] <Guest6790> trying to install mac ppc version of meercat
[11:38] <Guest6790> but it's bigger than a cd
[11:38] <Guest6790> can i install from an external hard disc?
[11:39] <head_victim> Guest6790: thumb drives are pretty easy and you can also use a DVD
[11:39] <head_victim> I'm not sure how to go about doing it from an ISO on an ext drive though
[11:40] <Guest6790> i have an iso but still have to install it to the thumb/external drive
[11:40] <head_victim> Do you have any version of Ubuntu installed?
[11:40] <Guest6790> I'll try burning a dvd
[11:40] <head_victim> Or any other operating system?
[11:40] <Guest6790> I have a pc w/ ubuntu but only cd burner
[11:40] <head_victim> Easy if you have a spare thumb drive
[11:41] <Guest6790> but this is a mac version i want to put on an ibook G3
[11:41] <Guest6790> why did they make it sliiiiightly larger than a cd!
[11:41] <head_victim> Guest6790: yep "start up disk creator"
[11:41] <Guest6790> disc creator on the ubuntu windows machine?
[11:42] <head_victim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating%20a%20bootable%20Ubuntu%20USB%20flash%20drive
[11:42] <Guest6790> can i open the iso and copy all the files off to an external disc?
[11:42] <Guest6790> these are instructions for pc only I think
[11:44] <head_victim> If you run the program it will install the ISO to a USB drive and make it bootable
[11:44] <head_victim> So you can just use it to install on the other pc
[11:45] <Guest6790> I want the mac version - ppc - I think this is only for win/pc machines
[11:45] <Guest6790> I had good luck on my windows/pc machine but the iso was the correct size for a cd
[11:49] <Guest6790> I'll read this carefully and see if I can make it work with the ppc version from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[11:49] <head_victim> No you can use any ISO you would like
[11:49] <head_victim> As long as you have a version of Ubuntu the USB-Creator program can use any ISO you have on your computer
[11:58] <Guest6790> ? I made a cd from the regular ubuntu 10.10 from this page http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download and it intstalled great on my win/pc machine, but my mac ibook G3 doesn't see it.
[11:58] <Guest6790> sorry, you mean the usb-creator program above - i'll read it carefully now.  thanks
[12:02] <head_victim> No worries, it's the easiest way to get a bootable install USB drive for ubuntu
[12:08] <Guest6790> uh - in order to run the usb creator app I have to have ubuntu installed - do I have to fire up the win/pc?  dang, it's noisy!
[12:09] <head_victim> Yeah you will need a Ubuntu installed that's why I was checking that
[12:10] <Guest6790> ok, I'm burning a DVD of the ppc iso, if it doen'st work i'll fire up the win/pc, but it's late so I'll try it tomorrow.  thannks for all your help! I'm in Los Angeles - your no worries sounds like you're in Australia?
[12:11] <Guest6790> I actually got the ubuntu idea from a guy in Australia when I had an old ebook win/pc.
[12:11] <Guest6790> it's fun even when I don't always succeed!  thanks for your help!
[12:12] <head_victim> Yeah I'm in Brisbane, Australia
[12:12] <head_victim> Glad we can be of assistance
[12:13] <JackyAlcine> Guest6790: YOu can also download UNetbootin (it's a cross platform app that works like the USB Creator for Ubuntu)
[12:16] <Guest6790> Woo Hoo!  the DVD is booting - but I'm keeping all this info.  Now I can sleep - happy!   Thank you all again!!!
[12:34] <Lorizean> hi.. so i kinda recently installed maverick on my netbook (in the netbook remix)... is there any way to disable unity and go back to the interface from 10.04?
[12:40] <duanedesign> hello Lorizean
[12:40] <Lorizean> hi
[12:41] <duanedesign> Lorizean: i have not used the netbook interface, however in Natty when you boot up there isa place to select the deskyop type
[12:41] <Lorizean> hm... during the boot?
[12:41] <duanedesign> Lorizean: where you enter your password, at the bottom
[12:41] <shadeslayer> Lorizean: when your in gdm
[12:41] <Lorizean> ah, k
[12:41] <Lorizean> will try that
[12:43] <MrChrisDruif> But still, you should be able to uninstall it if you please...O:-)
[12:44] <Lorizean> hm... well, before I do that I guess I'll see if I don't warm up to it a bit
[12:45] <Lorizean> oh, yeah, other problem - my netbook always hangs during shutdown/reboot. I have to hard-shutdown it (since 10.10). Found an entry in the forums about that, but didn't rlly help so far
[12:46] <MrChrisDruif> Lorizean: Might be an good idea to warm to it...11.04 is going Unity aswell <_<"
[12:46] <Lorizean> yeah, i heard.. even the non-netbook version, right?
[12:47] <duanedesign> yes
[12:47] <MrChrisDruif> Yup...
[12:47] <Lorizean> well, got the interface working now, thanks
[12:47] <MrChrisDruif> Your welcome..
[14:27] <s-fox> Hello.
[15:00] <AbhijiT> hi s-fox
[15:00] <s-fox> Hello AbhijiT
[15:00] <AbhijiT> :)
[15:01] <AbhijiT> s-fox, why are you shrinking? !!! :D :P
[15:01] <s-fox> AbhijiT,  consistency
[15:01] <AbhijiT> ??
[15:02] <AbhijiT> what consistency?
[15:02] <s-fox> AbhijiT,  http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=611656
[15:02] <AbhijiT> okay!
[15:06] <s-fox> AbhijiT,  I accepted it =)
[15:06] <AbhijiT> :)
[15:07] <AbhijiT> :o
[15:08] <AbhijiT> s-fox, you are a girl?
[15:08] <AbhijiT> :o
[15:09] <s-fox> What I am is important somehow?
[15:09] <AbhijiT> nope
[15:09] <AbhijiT> just wondering.
[15:09] <AbhijiT> curious!
[15:10] <s-fox> AbhijiT,  People have tried to before.  Best advice i can give: make up your own mind and go with it
[15:11] <AbhijiT> :o
[15:11] <AbhijiT> :(
[15:12] <egossett_> i am using blogilo and it will not post to blogger.
[15:12] <AbhijiT> egossett_, which version ?
[15:13] <egossett_> AbhijiT: not sure
[15:13] <AbhijiT> :s
[15:13] <AbhijiT> egossett_, you can check in help about
[15:13] <egossett_> ok checking
[15:14] <AbhijiT> egossett_, blogilo is working here
[15:14] <egossett_> 1.0.1
[15:14] <AbhijiT> yeah same is mine
[15:14] <AbhijiT> and its working here
[15:14] <egossett_> AbhijiT: message says Atom
[15:14] <AbhijiT> which message?
[15:14] <AbhijiT> i got only one msg telling me that post succesfully
[15:15] <egossett_> submitting post failed
[15:15] <egossett_> in details it says
[15:15] <egossett_> An error occurred in the last transaction.
[15:15] <egossett_> Server (Atom) error: Authentication failed.
[15:15] <egossett_> o
[15:15] <egossett_> user name and password DUH
[15:15] <AbhijiT> egossett_, was this blogilo working fort the same blog before?
[15:16] <AbhijiT> :P]
[15:16] <AbhijiT> :)
[15:16] <egossett_> AbhijiT: this is first time i tried to use
[15:16] <AbhijiT> egossett_, yeah i think some setting is not correct. see which one is tht
[15:16] <egossett_> AbhijiT: yes
[15:16] <AbhijiT> either blogger address,username,email,password some minor setting
[15:16] <egossett_> AbhijiT: yes my fault not blogilo
[15:16] <AbhijiT> :)
[15:17] <egossett_> abh
[15:17] <egossett_> AbhijiT: thanks
[15:17] <AbhijiT> np
[15:17] <egossett_> AbhijiT: trying all these things in my great Ubuntu
[15:19] <AbhijiT> egossett_, good
[15:30] <AbhijiT> egossett_, are you using 64 bit buntu?
[15:31] <egossett_> AbhijiT: no 32 bit
[15:31] <AbhijiT> egossett_, have you tried drivel journal?
[15:31] <egossett_> AbhijiT: not sure what is wrong with my settings
[15:31] <AbhijiT> egossett_, still no luck with blogilo?
[15:31] <egossett_> AbhijiT: no looked at drupal, thatwas way to complicated
[15:32] <egossett_> AbhijiT: will look at drivel next then
[15:32] <AbhijiT> ??
[15:32] <AbhijiT> egossett_, can you install drivel now?
[15:32] <egossett_> yes let me try
[15:32] <egossett_> searching for download
[15:33] <AbhijiT> its on software cneter
[15:33] <AbhijiT> type 'blog' as search term
[15:37] <AbhijiT> :(
[15:44] <philinux> duanedesign: is you in or mia
[15:54] <duanedesign> hello philinux
[15:55] <philinux> duanedesign: Hi, How is ubuntu one maintenance going?
[15:55] <philinux> Have urgent need to sync tonight
[15:58] <duanedesign> philinux: 06:17 < rye> We have had to extend the downtime for additional 2 hours. We estimate services to be brought back  by 1400 UTC. Sorry for the inconvenience.
[15:59] <philinux> duanedesign: Cheers bud, whats that time in GMT
[16:00] <duanedesign> should of been about an hour ago...
[16:01] <duanedesign> 'should of' ;)
[16:02] <philinux> duanedesign: Many thanks!
[16:02] <duanedesign> philinux: your welcome, anytime
[16:10] <Daniel0108> hi duanedesign, hi philinux
[16:10] <duanedesign> hey Daniel0108 !
[16:10] <Daniel0108> what's up?
[16:11] <duanedesign> Daniel0108: getting hammered with snow
[16:11] <Daniel0108> lol, snow's melting here in austria :D
[16:12] <duanedesign> :)
[16:12] <Daniel0108> we, should move to #ubuntu-beginners-team ;)
[16:30] <techmik67> all my linux versions have stopped booting....
[16:31] <techmik67> blackscreen after choosing any version.... recovery boots, but startx gives errors
[16:37] <keverdy13> hello?
[16:37] <s-fox> Hello keverdy13
[16:37] <keverdy13> Hello, Fox.
[16:38] <keverdy13> I was wondering, in the boot grub for Ubuntu, how can I create a theme for it?
[16:38] <keverdy13> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Themes
[16:42] <keverdy13> help?
[16:43] <aveilleux> keverdy13: Have you tried #grub ?
[16:43] <keverdy13> no... ok!
[16:50] <bwright> Hello.
[17:06] <kumaanki> hi there..
[17:06] <AbhiJiT> hi
[17:06] <kumaanki> i am new to to this channel. i want to contribute to the ubuntu dev. how can i start
[17:07] <aveilleux> kumaanki: The Ubuntu Beginners Development team, or the actual Ubuntu development?
[17:08] <kumaanki> I don't know which team would be appropriate, but it's going to be the first time when i would contribute
[17:08] <kumaanki> so should be a team where i could learn along with little contribution to kick start with
[17:10] <kumaanki> @avelileux: any suggestions on which team should i join...?
[17:14] <kumaanki> Anyone plz..?
[17:21] <geirha> kumaanki: Have you seen this?  http://www.ubuntu.com/community
[17:21] <geirha> I'm not a member of any of those teams, so I wouldn't know what would suit you best.
[17:22] <geirha> Seems most of the members in here are either offline or idle at the moment, but if you have patience, I'm sure you'll get a reply.
[17:28] <kumaanki> @geirha: Thanks for the response. Yes i had gone to that link but the link is not very clear to me. As i am new here. it isn't very clear to me.
[17:28] <kumaanki> And i am ok to wait here to get the response :)
[17:33] <AbhiJiT> kumaanki, start with bug triaging
[17:36] <kumaanki> hm. that sounds like one good entry point..
[18:02] <AbhijiT> kumaanki, start with bug traiging
[19:02] <johnny77> I have an interest in maybe becoming a Beginners Team Member... I know you are supposed to just ask questions, but did not know if this was the correct channel for this topic.
[19:03] <bioterror> johnny77, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Membership
[19:08] <johnny77> bioterror: I've been ready that page... But I have a couple questions... Like involvement requirements. I'd like to help, but may not have much time to offer.. Also I'm a beginner myself. Will that be a problem?
[19:12] <holstein> johnny77: you can just hang out here, follow the channel guidelines and help when you have time
[19:16] <seidos> johnny77: you can also join the off-topic channel #ubuntu-beginners-team to get to know the padawans and members/masters etc.
[19:20] <johnny77> Thank you. I have to run, but I'll keep it in mind.
[19:28] <jezz> hi can any1 help me with disk idle please?
[19:59] <Matt28> hey everyone, can some one please help me to set up a raid1 using ubuntu 10.10  i have the desktop distro on disk, but can download another if i need to
[20:00] <seidos> Matt28: i am a robot that can search google for you, but i don't have direct knowledge setting up software raid in ubuntu.  are you wanting raid 0?  raid 5?
[20:01] <pleia2> you may need the alternate CD to do raid from the installer (someone should correct me if I'm wrong :))
[20:01] <Matt28> raid 1
[20:01] <Matt28> alternate cd??
[20:01] <pleia2> it uses a text based installer which has more flexibility than the standard one (also allows you to do LVM)
[20:02] <Bolo> I have an ASUS 1001PXD with 10.4 netbook and I can't seem to get the internal mic to work
[20:02] <seidos> Matt28: this might help you, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1601826
[20:02] <Matt28> ok, i assume that i can find that on the ubuntu home page?
[20:02] <seidos> Matt28: title: Installing Ubuntu 10.10 Server or Alternate with RAID1
[20:03] <Matt28> thanks for the info
[20:03] <seidos> Matt28: releases.ubuntu.com has it.  i recommend acquiring it using the torrent.
[20:03] <seidos> Matt28: you are welcome, sir
[20:04] <seidos> Bolo: 10.04*.  i don't have direct knowledge of this problem, but i may help with some additional neural processing.
[20:04] <seidos> Bolo: have you check mic and capture levels utilizing alsamixer from a shell?
[20:05] <Bolo> seidos  I have gone through much of the related stuff on ubuntu forums with no luck
[20:05] <seidos> Bolo: did they mention alsamixer?  i find it is more wholistic than gnome-volume-control
[20:06] <Bolo> seidos I have worked with the alsamixer and the gnome-alsamixer  But maybe I wasn't doing it right
[20:06] <bodhizazen> 'lo all
[20:06] <seidos> namaste bodhizazen
[20:06] <seidos> thunder?
[20:07] <seidos> Bolo: i would revisit alsamixer from a shell.  then, check soundrecorder.  if your mic is working, there should be a "gain/level" bar in the lower right.  it should be blue or some color, not gray
[20:08] <seidos> Bolo: if it doesn't work after you try this...there are more options.
[20:09] <Bolo> siedos I have started alsamixer - what should I do?
[20:09] <Bolo> seidos - I am a beginner with this stuff
[20:11] <seidos> Bolo: ah.  hit tab.  then right arrow to "mic" and "capture".  make sure the volume is at 50% (i don't recommend higher just yet)
[20:11] <seidos> Bolo: no worries on being a beginner.  i am as well, relativity considered.
[20:12] <Bolo> seidos  I've got mic boost, but no mic
[20:12] <seidos> Bolo: to raise or lower the gain==volume, use up and down arrows
[20:13] <seidos> Bolo: what if you hit "f4"?
[20:14] <Bolo> seidos  I get mic boost and capture
[20:15] <seidos> Bolo: how many mics do you have?
[20:16] <Bolo> siedos  when I hit f5 I have two mic boosts
[20:17] <Bolo> seidos  when I plug in an external mic it works when I select it in sound settings
[20:17] <Bolo> seidos  there is no external mic connnected at this time
[20:19] <seidos> Bolo: hmmm, me too.  when i hit f4 i have front mic, mic boost, and capture
[20:19] <seidos> but i assumed one of these was for "line in", though that actually may be "capture"
[20:19] <seidos> anyway...did you put up capture and mic boost to 50%?
[20:19] <Bolo> seidos  I only have two mic boosts
[20:21] <Bolo> seidos  when I select and adjust the volume on one, it adjust the volume on the other.  Can't adjust them separately
[20:22] <seidos> Bolo: ermm, i am not sure how to say this...but my mic isn't working right now either
[20:22] <seidos> heh
[20:24] <seidos> Bolo: i should probably log into gnome, would you mind waiting briefly?
[20:24] <seidos> Bolo: i need to see if front mic is what i use or mic boost to get the mic "listening"
[20:25] <Bolo> siedos OK
[20:30] <seidos> Bolo: back, one moment while i test sound recorder
[20:33] <seidos> Bolo: on my system, i need "front mic boost" for sound to be recorded from the built in microphone.  i can set "mic boost" and "capture" to 0, and as long as front mic boost is "up", it will function.
[20:33] <seidos> Bolo: i guess we should probably get some more information on your system...but at this point i would recommend trying to install a newer version of alsa...i should warn you, some courage at this point is probably warranted
[20:33] <pedro3005> try searchig your laptop model to see if it's a common problem
[20:34] <seidos> Bolo: pedro3005 makes a good point.  what laptop model do you have?
[20:35] <Bolo> seidos  I have looked at that and there doesn't seem to be a real good, detailed, explanation of how to do that
[20:35] <Bolo> seidos  asus Eee pc1001pxd  I've looked
[20:35] <seidos> Bolo: no, there isn't.  i should probably add making one to my todo list.
[20:36] <seidos> Bolo: and you said 10.04 netbook remix...
[20:36] <Bolo> seidos correct 10.4 netbook remix
[20:37] <seidos> Bolo: have you looked here?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1204001
[20:37] <seidos> Bolo: 10.04*
[20:37] <seidos> not exactly the same model though...hmmm
[20:38] <seidos> Bolo: disregard that link, nobody reports a success
[20:40] <seidos> Bolo: what do you get when you type the following in a shell, cat /proc/asound/version
[20:42] <Bolo> seidos  Sorry, don't understand shell
[20:43] <Bolo> seidos  Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21.
[20:45] <seidos> Bolo: shell==terminal
[20:45] <Bolo> seidos got it  answer posted above
[20:46] <seidos> Bolo: okay, well there are 2 things i am considering.  researching if anyone has problem with the kernel module for your sound device
[20:47] <seidos> Bolo: and if the 1st doesn't do it, then try upgrading to version 1.0.23 of alsa, incidentally, 10.10 comes with alsa 1.0.23
[20:48] <seidos> Bolo: i have some information cached in my brain that can help you investigate your kernel module
[20:48] <Bolo> seidos  how do you upgrade to .23?
[20:48] <seidos> Bolo: but upgrading alsa will be more tricky.
[20:48] <seidos> Bolo: the only way i have done it (aside from upgrading the distro) is to download and compile alsa from source, but this caused problems with pulseaudio
[20:48] <Bolo> seidos  more tricker than what?
[20:49] <seidos> Bolo: than investigating the kernel module for your sound device.
[20:50] <seidos> Bolo: i have to state i am ignorant as to the specifics at this point on how the kernel module gets selected, and whether or not it is even included in alsa
[20:50] <seidos> Bolo: kernel module = driver
[20:51] <Bolo> seidos  Don't need more problems  so far I've fixed about four things after the installation of 10.4  I was hoping I was reaching an end to this kind of stuff
[20:52] <seidos> Bolo: 10.04*.  i'm sorry to hear you are having problems, i do wish everything was functioning to your specifications.
[20:53] <seidos> however, i will say, that i do whole heartedly believe your endeavoring to work with free and open source software, specifically ubuntu, is the right thing to do.
[20:54] <Bolo> seidos  I'm not complaining, just pointing out that I might be more willing to do without a working internal mic on my computer than to install something that might create more problems than fixing them
[20:56] <seidos> Bolo: ah, yeah.  when i compiled alsa from source there was a work around for it, but it wasn't a permanent fix.
[20:56] <seidos> Bolo: it would be nice if you could install alsa 1.0.23 from a repository, but i am not sure if this feasible.
[20:56] <seidos> ah, just had a thought, there might be a deb package with alsa 1.0.23
[20:57] <Bolo> seidos  How do I check that?
[20:57] <seidos> incidentally, i am also asking in #alsa if alsa is the package that comes with your kernel module (driver) for your sound device
[20:57] <seidos> Bolo: search google for "alsa 1.0.23 deb package"
[20:59] <seidos> Bolo: first link looks promising:  http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/
[20:59] <seidos> ah, it says to compile alsa from source
[21:13] <seidos> Bolo: it also might be possible to install a maverick meerkat (10.10) package onto lucid lynx (10.04).  i am asking in #ubuntu-motu :)
[21:15] <Bolo> seidos  I went here and I'm working on it.  It's a big download (http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/)
[21:15] <holstein> Bolo: what is the deal?
[21:15] <holstein> i have a 1001p
[21:16] <Bolo> holstein  is your internal mike working
[21:16] <holstein> i got the interal mic working with pavucontrol
[21:16] <holstein> in 10.04
[21:16] <holstein> i just got this thing a few days ago
[21:17] <holstein> and i actually just got around to testing the mic earlier today
[21:17] <Bolo> holstein  where do you find pavucontrol
[21:17] <holstein> apt-get it :)
[21:17] <holstein> sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[21:18] <holstein> or however you install packages
[21:18] <holstein> synptic or whatever
[21:18] <holstein> Bolo: run in a terminal
[21:19] <holstein> arecord -l
[21:19] <holstein> see if you have...
[21:19] <holstein> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC269 Analog [ALC269 Analog]
[21:19] <Bolo> holstein  that's exactly what I have
[21:19] <holstein> if so, our hardware should be similar enough for my findings to me applicable
[21:19] <holstein> cool
[21:22] <holstein> http://linuxon1001p.blogspot.com/
[21:22] <holstein> thats where i got the idea
[21:23] <holstein> i have used pavucontrol before though
[21:23] <holstein> so i just installed it, and started tweaking, and got it working
[21:25] <holstein> seidos: hmmm
[21:25] <holstein> oh well
[21:26] <seidos> hopefully he comes back after getting it working with pavucontrol, holstein
[21:26] <seidos> actually, i'm going to install it, maybe it can help with the static i am experiencing
[21:26] <holstein> seidos: maybe
[21:27] <holstein> thats probably hardware though
[21:27] <seidos> Bolo: i've never heard of pavucontrol, i'm going to try it out.
[21:27] <holstein> i guess it depends on the static
[21:27] <holstein> and what is causing it
[21:27] <seidos> holstein: no doubt.  i'm not really able to narrow it down to hardware.
[21:27] <Bolo> **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
[21:27] <Bolo> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC269 Analog [ALC269 Analog]
[21:27] <Bolo>   Subdevices: 1/1
[21:27] <Bolo>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[21:28] <Bolo> holstein  OK  I got it installed  how do I activate it?
[21:28] <holstein> Bolo: its just a mixer
[21:28] <holstein> just open it
[21:28] <holstein> and use it
[21:29] <Bolo> holstein  I'm looking for it
[21:29] <holstein> Bolo: its in the menu somewhere
[21:29] <holstein> as pulseaudio volume control
[21:29] <holstein> its in 'sound and video' for me
[21:30] <holstein> BUT i have the ubuntustudio-menu meta-package installed
[21:30] <holstein> and i foget what effect that has the placement of audio packages in the menu
[21:30] <holstein> forget*
[21:30] <holstein> you can always launch it from terminal
[21:31] <holstein> or alt+F2 pavucontrol
[21:31] <seidos> okay, this is funny, after "tweaking" on pavucontrol, i can't record
[21:31] <seidos> i'm sure a reboot will fix it, but it's a mystery what is actually going on
[21:31] <holstein> seidos: plausible
[21:32] <seidos> i'll try restarting alsa
[21:32] <holstein> it has settings that would mute things
[21:33] <holstein> seidos: its not going to break anything
[21:33] <holstein> its just going to give you the option to turn something off
[21:33] <holstein> that is usually on
[21:33] <Bolo> Is it named  pavucontrol  because I can't find it
[21:33] <holstein> Bolo: in the menu
[21:33] <holstein> its named pulseaudio volume control
[21:33] <holstein> but you can launch it from the terminal
[21:33] <seidos> ah it's a pulseaudio app
[21:34] <holstein> with pavucontrol
[21:34] <seidos> i'll try restarting pulseaudio
[21:34] <holstein> or alt+F2 with pavucontrol
[21:34] <holstein> seidos: yeah, its just a 'better' mixer
[21:34] <holstein> for some devices
[21:34] <Bolo> holstein  you mean PulseAudio Volume Control
[21:34] <holstein> useing pulse
[21:35] <holstein> Bolo: thats it
[21:35] <holstein> i suppose i should have inculded the capital letters to be totally clear and precise
[21:36] <Bolo> holstein  what do you do to get it to work?
[21:36] <seidos> yeah, restarting pulseaudio worked.  that's interesting though...didn't know that pulseaudio was necessary for recording...
[21:36] <holstein> well
[21:36] <holstein> i can only say what i did
[21:36] <holstein> and that was
[21:36] <holstein> i went to the 'Input Devices' tab
[21:36] <holstein> and messed with everything
[21:37] <seidos> holstein: do you have a "front mic" in alsamixer?
[21:37] <holstein> seidos: i'll look
[21:37] <holstein> BUT you cant trust those labels
[21:37] <holstein> in alsamixer
[21:38] <Bolo> holstein  I've got configuration Analog Stereo Duplex    Do you have anything listed under recording?
[21:38] <holstein> sorry, i gotta run
[21:38] <holstein> Bolo: good luck
[21:38] <holstein> it'll work though :)
[21:39] <Bolo> holstein  doesn't do anything for me  not the problem
[21:40] <seidos> drat, too bad he couldn't answer the front mic question
[21:42] <seidos> he did make it clear to me that pulseaudio is just as important for recording as alsa, i must have forgotten this when i was troubleshooting several months back
[21:42] <Bolo> seidos  what I have discovered after studying this problem for a few days is that there are a lot of problems in this area - but no fix works for most users
[21:42] <seidos> Bolo: you know what would probably be easiest?  can you create a maverick liveusb, and see if you can record while running off the live usb?
[21:42] <seidos> since maverick has the newer versions of alsa...
[21:42] <seidos> and perhaps pulseaudio
[21:42]  * seidos tries to check his version of pulseaudio
[21:43] <seidos> Bolo: pulseaudio --version to check your version of pulseaudio.  mine is pulseaudio 0.9.21-63-gd3efa-dirty
[21:44] <Bolo> seidos  how do I check that"
[21:45] <seidos> Bolo: pulseaudio --version (i said this on 13:43).
[21:45] <seidos> hey Bolo if you ever want to take a break, we can chat about off-topic stuff in #ubuntu-beginners-team
[21:46] <Bolo> E: pid.c: Daemon already running.
[21:46] <Bolo> E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[21:47] <Bolo> seidos that's what I got when I tried the pulseaudio
[21:49] <Bolo> seidos  hey I'm also over at beginners-team
[21:52] <Bolo> seidos  OK  I got pulseaudio 0.9.21-63-gd3efa-dirty
[21:57] <seidos> Bolo:  well, i feel i should probably point out how alsa and pulseaudio interface with each other is something of a giant mystery to me...so...i can only speculate as to what you might try at this point.
[21:58] <seidos> Bolo: we should probably wait and see how the installation of alsa 1.0.23 goes
[21:58] <Bolo> seidos  I know if I keep looking I'll eventually find an answer to the problem
[21:59] <seidos> Bolo: yeah, or the developers will fix it and release the fix in the next version of ubuntu
[22:01] <Bolo> seidos  I broke that installation when I started working with the pulseaudio control    I have an acer AOA150 that works great with this program  but I only had 1 gig and 8.9" screen
[22:03] <seidos> Bolo: *only* 1GB?  of ram?  or hdd?
[22:05] <Bolo> seidos ram
[22:06] <Bolo> siedos  I got this asus and upgraded it immediately to 2 gig
[22:09] <seidos> Bolo: i have 2 gig on this notebook.  it's a 13".  i just replaced the hdd.  it broke :(.
[22:09] <seidos> there is compaq next to me with 1gig of ram, i am going to set it up as a web server...hmmm, actually, i could probably do that now!
[22:10] <seidos> i have a desktop next to me too, but i don't have a place to plug it in right now to configure it
[22:12] <Bolo> seidos  I've never set a computer up as a server  I have a macbook  I was thinking of installing a 500 gig HD and going to 10.10 on that  and getting rid of the mac software
[22:14] <seidos> Bolo: i used to have a macbook.  i sold it and got this 13"...but they are nice hardware, i just needed the $ :|
[22:19] <Bolo> seidos  well, my mac is 4 years old and came with 10.4 and 120 gig HD and 2 gig ram.  I upgraded it to 4 gig, which apple said you can't do.  Currently, the computer only recognizes 3.25 gig of the installed 4 and I was wondering if the additional .75 gig would be recognized by a ubuntu installation.  I can't imagine anyone giving any kind of money for that thing.
[22:21] <seidos> Bolo: is it a 17"?  the macbook i sold was a 17".  the up arrow didn't work on it.
[22:23] <seidos> hmmm, i dunno if an ubuntu installation would detect it.  sounds like a firmware issue or something, but it's worth a shot.  there's the 64bit versions, and then there is a tool that i heard about that gets 32 bit versions to detect more the 4GB on 32 bit installs of ubuntu
[22:24] <seidos> !pae | Bolo
[22:24] <ubot2> Bolo: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info
[22:24] <seidos> that might be it
[22:28] <Bolo> seidos  No, it's the 13" blackmac  I'm in to portability
[22:29] <seidos> yeah, same here.  13" are nice.
[22:31] <Bolo> seidos  It's got the dual core intel thing going so I installed the parallels so I could use XP  But on this netbook I've got virtualbox, no dual core, and the XP works fine
[22:32] <bioterror> seidos, I bet you get along with bodhi (I assume form your pic ;)
[22:32] <seidos> bioterror: doesn't everybody?
[22:33] <seidos> Bolo: parallels?
[22:33] <bioterror> well, but you seem to meditate or something :D
[22:34] <seidos> bioterror: *seem* is probably the operative word ;)
[22:34] <seidos> i also eat :|
[22:34] <Bolo> seidos  I've been really impressed with Ubuntu, especially how fast it is.  Parallels is that emulator they sell over at Apple for the XP installation
[22:35] <bioterror> but good night, I think I'll head to bed and have my daily dose of meditation
[22:36] <seidos> bioterror: gasho
[23:48] <Guest38805> When you run the installation for Ubuntu off a CD, and choose to use pre-exisiting files, does it overwrite/clear the disk first?
[23:51] <Guest38805> ??