[17:14] <Slart> red_eyes: have you tried just install it?
[17:14] <igors> rmitchell, i can't find nothing about "output"...is it the same as "capture" ?
[17:14] <alsadi> I guess I found it thanks
[17:14] <red_eyes> i have tried it and it installs perfectly
[17:14] <compengi> Slart, the bug is there and i know where it is. i'm going to recompile the kernel and see. but knowing under which i had no problems is also good info to know and to trace the bug
[17:14] <red_eyes> but my question is if it will need driver
[17:14] <red_eyes> s
[17:14] <rmitchell> igors: what do you have in the 'switches' tab
[17:14] <alsadi> in ~/.gvfs
[17:14] <rootsnatch> red_eyes: well it probably wont
[17:14] <buur> hey.
[17:15] <rww> red_eyes: Ubuntu comes with support for lots of hardware built-in. There's a good chance that you won't need to manually get any drivers at all.
[17:15] <red_eyes> so it will connect to my adsl just fine without needing any drivers
[17:15] <Slart> red_eyes: I don't know the dell model numbers by heart.. but try the live cd first.. then you can see how things work.. check wifi, graphics, networking.. and anything else you can think of..
[17:15] <King> how do i execute a .bat file
[17:15] <igors> rmitchell, IEC958 (unchecked), IEC958 Capture (unchecked) and Speaker (checked)
[17:15] <udzguru> i got a problem. yesterday i installed my brand new 24" screen and now i wanted to set the resolution to the native 1900*1200 but the largest option i get is 1600*1200. how can i change the resolution? :(
[17:15] <Manarion> rww: i've tried everything; ALSA, OSS, emulation not emulation, etc
[17:15] <forcumang> red_eyes => without WLAN, it should recognize eth0 fine
[17:15] <forcumang> ethX*
[17:15] <Slart> King: install windows.. then double click it
[17:15] <rmitchell> igors: what mac, what version of ubuntu?
[17:15] <karname> how can stop pulse audio
[17:15] <arun_> go to administration screen resolution
[17:15] <King> it only work on windows
[17:15] <Slart> King: if you want to run it using wine I think there's a command line wine executable..
[17:16] <red_eyes> another thing: how can i add my adsl connection?
[17:16] <red_eyes> in ubuntu i mean
[17:16] <Slart> King: something like wineconsole or something
[17:16] <King> if is for the game cube
[17:16] <amikrop> How can I choose, that when I have a CD inserted, nothing appears on the desktop?
[17:16] <forcumang> Manarion => there are some things in windows programs that aren't compatible with linux, it's possible WoW's sound segment has some windows-independant needs
[17:16] <udzguru> arun_ : i did that already. there is no option for a 1900*1200 resolution
[17:17] <Slart> red_eyes: I have no idea how your adsl connection works.. my internet connection worked out of the box.. but it's plain ethernet
[17:17] <forcumang> Manarion => but i'm just taking a guess here.
[17:17] <amikrop> How can I choose, that when I have a CD inserted, nothing appears on the desktop?
[17:17] <SliMM> hello
[17:17] <z3ek>   ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[17:17] <z3ek>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[17:17] <z3ek>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[17:17] <z3ek>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[17:17] <FloodBot3> z3ek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <z3ek> anyone ?
[17:17] <Slart> amikrop: do you still want the hard drives to appear on the desktop?
[17:17] <mars__> i just want to ask one question
[17:17] <forcumang> z3ek => read what it says..
[17:17] <Slart> z3ek: have you read the README file?
[17:17] <amikrop> Slart: They already don't.
[17:17] <forcumang> 'exit X before installing'
[17:17] <igors> rmitchell, the latest LTS ubuntu version...6.06? and intel macbook, the white one
[17:17] <Manarion> hmm, ok.. after reading several forums, it's seems people are able to run WoW in linux
[17:17] <SliMM> I have created a new keyboard layout, but I can't pick it in the layout preferences
[17:17] <Slart> amikrop: ok.. open a terminal, run "gconf-editor"
[17:18] <red_eyes> Slart: in windows i have to add a broadband connection, is it the same in ubuntu or it works just by connectin the cable to the ethernet?
[17:18] <z3ek> how do i get to the readme
[17:18] <z3ek> it only gave me a .run
[17:18] <amikrop> Slart: yes...
[17:18] <Slart> amikrop: then go to apps, nautilus and look around in there.. in desktop there are some settings for the desktop
[17:18] <LjjjL> igors: the latest LTS is 8.04 (Hardy)
[17:18] <SliMM> Manarion: people do run WoW on Linux
[17:18] <King> trying to make game controller work with cube
[17:18] <rmitchell> igors: you can see your ubuntu version by system - administration - system monitor
[17:18] <amikrop> Slart: ok, thanks :)
[17:18] <Slart> red_eyes: it should be installed automatically for you
[17:19] <igors> yeah...sorry..(always forget these numbers)
[17:19] <zamba> what method can i use to figure out what encoding a text file has been written in?
[17:19] <red_eyes> ok Slart thank you
[17:19] <z3ek> it only gave me a .run
[17:19] <z3ek> how do i get to the readme
[17:19] <z3ek> ;S
[17:19] <red_eyes> and what irc client should i use in ubuntu?
[17:19] <LjjjL> zamba: "file filename" is probably smart enough to determine it in most cases
[17:19] <Slart> zamba: I think there are some small apps that can make a guess for you.. but usually there isn't a method that always works
[17:19] <LjjjL> red_eyes: the one you prefer
[17:19] <forcumang> z3ek => google on how to install <your brand> drivers on ubuntu 8.10
[17:19] <BlueBird> Anyone got any ideas...
[17:19] <Slart> z3ek: where did you get the .run file from? perhaps there are instructions there?
[17:19] <BlueBird> Anyone have any ideas as to why Ubuntu is stuck in a Dos like mode? I have just been trying to install compliz. Got as far as installing some via drivers. But now i'm stuck in dos.
[17:19] <SliMM> red_eyes: pidgin is installed by default
[17:19] <red_eyes> i only know mirc so please tell me another
[17:20] <forcumang> z3ek => if you're using nvidia, the nvidia site has instructions
[17:20] <Slart> red_eyes: xchat or xchat-gnome are easy to use and nice
[17:20] <rmitchell> BlueBird: what do you see on your screen?
[17:20] <mon^rch> red_eyes: try konversation
[17:20] <z3ek> ive been looking forcumang
[17:20] <chamunks> red_eyes, if your looking for an irc check out xchat.
[17:20] <igors> rmitchell, are you on a macbook to? do you need more info? :/
[17:20] <LjjjL> BlueBird: that can happen if one tries to install something as core as video drivers in unorthodox ways.
[17:20] <Slart> red_eyes: and pretty similar to mirc
[17:20] <forcumang> red_eyes => IRSSI ;)
[17:20] <red_eyes> ok thank you
[17:20] <z3ek> but it seems to be harder than it looks to get it working pal
[17:20] <SliMM> red_eyes: no, not konversation :P
[17:20] <BlueBird> rmitchell, Simply a dos screen.
[17:20] <rmitchell> igors: i'm on the mid 2007 blackbook, ubuntu 8.10
[17:21] <red_eyes> i think i will use irssi, i like its name lol
[17:21] <Slart> z3ek: btw.. what's wrong with the restricted drivers drivers?
[17:21] <chamunks> Slart, hah you beat me to it.
[17:21] <forcumang> red_eyes => it's full terminal though
[17:21] <Slart> red_eyes: it's terminal only.. =)
[17:21] <forcumang> not any 'mirc' like gui
[17:21] <forcumang> just fyi
[17:21] <LjjjL> BlueBird: that's a terminal, nothing to do with DOS
[17:21] <red_eyes> owh
[17:21] <Slart> red_eyes: but still nice.. I use it myself..
[17:21] <red_eyes> ah well
[17:21] <red_eyes> we will see
[17:21] <forcumang> red_eyes => if you want gui, use xchat
[17:21] <red_eyes> when i install it
[17:21] <igors> rmitchell, any problem with mic or other hardware? actually i still didn't try the camera...
[17:21] <red_eyes> thanks for everything
[17:21] <BlueBird> What's the command to close it?
[17:21] <red_eyes> good bye
[17:21] <mars__> my question is i found that many soft was installed but where to use .i mean a game or bogofilter
[17:21] <FloodBot3> red_eyes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <rmitchell> igors: i've got all hardware working perfectly
[17:21] <zamba> LjjjL: it interprets it as 8859, but when trying to view the file the special characters haven't been converted correctly
[17:22] <zamba> it works in emacs, though
[17:22] <nibsa1242b> I need help diagnosing CD burning issues. The drive is reconigized, the disk is reconigized, if I use an RW disk, I can burn to the same disk on another computer running Ubuntu. The burn process fails with error: WRITE@LBA=4290h failed with SK=7h/ASC=00h/ACQ=01h]: Input/output error.
[17:22] <Cluber> alsadi: what do you mean
[17:22] <zamba> tried with LESSCHARSET=iso8859
[17:22] <fdude> anyone have any idea why firefox keeps jumping into "fullscreen"? it's not actual fullscreen though, it's just that it covers the upper and lower panels in gnome and hides the top "bar" on firefox so that the minimize, maximize and close buttons disappear..
[17:22] <LjjjL> BlueBird: there isn't one. the problem, most likely. is that X (which is the program that normally provides your graphical interface) isn't starting, because it can't get the video card drivers to work, so you only see the text-mode terminal (which is always there, just hidden behind X)
[17:22] <nibsa1242b> How do I find out which CD drive I have
[17:22] <LjjjL> BlueBird: if X *is* running, then Ctrl+Alt+F7 will bring it up
[17:22] <ne2k__> nibsa1242b: read the label on it?
[17:22] <forcumang> fdude => you have to resize your firefox window
[17:23] <igors> rmitchell, cool...i really need to fix this issue with my mic...the builtin is not perfect for skype...
[17:23] <fdude> i have to click f11 to get it into true fullscreen so that i can "unmaximize"
[17:23] <fdude> o
[17:23] <LjjjL> BlueBird: otherwise, "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start", see what it does, and check the X logs to find out what the problem is (in /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[17:23] <rmitchell> igors: google 'macbook ubuntu' and the first result is a great tutorial
[17:23] <BlueBird> Ctrl+Alt+F7 simply gives me a blank screen, The last thing I did was install the Via drivers (I've a Webbook running a Via graphics card).
[17:23] <BlueBird> Seems it hasn't loaded properly then. :/
[17:23] <Cluber> i gives me a boner
[17:23] <fdude> thanks forcumang
[17:23] <LjjjL> BlueBird: *how* did you install those?
[17:23] <forcumang> fdude => then take away your top toolbar for a second, move firefox down, and maximize it
[17:23] <forcumang> np
[17:23] <rmitchell> bluebird: you may have to rebuild your xorg.conf
[17:24] <igors> rmitchell, I see this "Mux" in all tutorials...but i don't have in my options..
[17:24] <racquad> hi guys! how can I change the keyboard layout system wide?
[17:24] <nb1> Oh, I finally figured out how to fix my sound! Thanks anyone who tried to help. :)
[17:24] <Slart> fdude: if you're using compiz I think you can hold alt and use leftclick and drag anywhere on a window to move it
[17:24] <BlueBird> These are what i used after DL'ing them to the Desktop.
[17:24] <BlueBird> cd Desktop
[17:24] <BlueBird> ls
[17:24] <BlueBird> tar -zxvf elonexviadrivers.tar.gz
[17:24] <BlueBird> cd ElonexViaDrivers
[17:24] <BlueBird> sudo ./vinstall
[17:24] <SliMM> rmitchell: there's xfix for rebuilding xorg.conf
[17:24] <FloodBot3> BlueBird: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:24] <forcumang> racquad => should be somewhere in 'preferences', or 'administration'
[17:24] <Slart> fdude: very handy if you can't reach the top bar
[17:25] <rmitchell> slimm: ?
 that would be for my user only... I want to change for the system wide
[17:25] <forcumang> ah
[17:25] <forcumang> sorry
[17:25] <SliMM> rmitchell: he doesn't have to do it manually
[17:25] <perlsyntax_> How do i put python 2.6 in my /usr/local?
[17:25] <fdude> Slart, thanks, that worked too
[17:25] <forcumang> hrm, i only know of doing it from install
[17:25] <fdude> i'll remember that for some other time, hopefully i fixed my prob with that other tip
 me too. there must be an apt-get somewhat to configure it
[17:26] <rmitchell> i have always just 'dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg'
[17:26] <LjjjL> BlueBird: my condolescences then, you've probably messed up your Ubuntu system quite badly by installing drivers that way :(
[17:26] <LjjjL> BlueBird: but see if "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-video-via" might fix it
[17:26] <Meophist> Hello? I've been having problems with Ubuntu and...
[17:26] <Neaai> BlueBird: you might want to see how to uninstall those drivers, then do a reinstall of xorg
[17:27] <Meophist> I've just started trying to install it last night but...
[17:27] <SliMM> so, no one knows what may cause the xkb problem?
[17:27] <BlueBird> k
[17:27] <nibsa1242b> is there a command like lspic or lsdvd that will allow me to know the make and model of a dvd drive?
[17:27] <Cluber> lspci
[17:27] <m031> has anyone had any luck with wireless n and ubuntu 8.10?
[17:27] <n8tuser> m031-> plenty have
[17:27] <LjjjL> nibsa1242b: hdparm -i /dev/whatever
[17:28] <Dominik1> ok so everynow and then randomly my system will go awall and every key I press triggers a screen shot... this will result in a crash (200 plus screen shots)
[17:28] <nibsa1242b> LjjjL: tnx
[17:28] <Meophist> What is a proper way of uninstalling Unbuntu?
[17:28] <Dominik1> then if I unplugg the keyboard and plug it back in the system crashes
[17:28] <Cluber> Meophist: smashing up your hard drive
[17:28] <Meophist> ...
[17:28] <SliMM> Meophist: or perhaps just formatting it
[17:28] <nibsa1242b> Meophist: just format your hard drive.
[17:28] <fdude> p
[17:28] <Meophist> I don't quite want to do that.
[17:29] <chamunks> This is terrible i really want my audio to work again blah.  Why did 8.04 work but not 8.10  this makes no sense.
[17:29] <Dominik1> soo ?  is ubuntu just failing misarbly with my hard ware and I should go back to XP? (aside from poor performance of the open office)
[17:29] <m031> n8tuser, im using the iwlagn driver but all i get i wireless G performance
[17:29] <LjjjL> nibsa1242b: or "sudo lshw -C disk"
[17:29] <SliMM> Meophist: ok, only the partition you installed Ubuntu on
[17:29] <bastid_raZor> Meophist; install something overtop it. which will require you to format the partition
[17:29] <Meophist> Ubuntu installed itself on a hard drive that actually have information I want to keep
[17:29] <Meophist> Instead of the hard drive with crap on it
[17:29] <chamunks> This is so terribly upsetting.
[17:29] <Meophist> Would it be safe to do that?
[17:29] <n8tuser> m031-> come again?
[17:29] <fdude> Meophist, backup that information
[17:29] <fdude> Meophist, then format
[17:30] <bastid_raZor> Meophist; that would be your fault for not putting it on the correct partition
[17:30] <Dominik1> Meophist: I suggest not messing with it untill you have backed up your data, im sorry
[17:30] <Cluber> "sudo lshw -C disk" works a treat.
[17:30] <symons> Meophist: throw your data on another hdd and then format
[17:30] <SliMM> Meophist: yes, it would be safer to backup the information first, but bad things happen all the time, it's a matter of luck
[17:30] <Meophist> Ubuntu seems to be on its own partition but...
[17:30] <Meophist> I didn't know Ubuntu would install on that hard disk.
[17:30] <BlueBird> Hmm.
[17:30] <forcumang> is there a way to 'find' on a full filesystem?
[17:30] <fdude> Meophist, seems like you're done. if you installed ubuntu on a partition with files you wanted to keep, they're gone now
[17:30] <BlueBird> Seems this is a massive mess.
[17:31] <Dominik1> I don't know if you would get rid of the boot loader..
[17:31] <Meophist> No, Ubuntu installed itself in a new partition
[17:31] <BIG-D> hey i have a question
[17:31] <LjjjL> fdude: unless he chose the default options of shrinking the existing partition and making a new one without losing data.
[17:31] <SliMM> Meophist: so format that partition
[17:31] <m031> n8tuser, all i get is 54 Mb/s to my wireless n router it should support about 130 Mb/s
[17:31] <Dominik1> fdude: hes got a hard drive with a windows partition I suppose that has data he wants to keep and then the ubuntu partition
[17:31] <mtinman> Hey everybody, happy Thanksgiving!
[17:31] <Dominik1> sliMM: will that get rid of the boot loader?
[17:31] <BlueBird> Hmm
[17:32] <BlueBird> Seems i Dlk'd a new kernal and the drivers are outdated.
[17:32] <BlueBird> FFs
[17:32] <maxbaldwin> Meophist: do you have another os to put on that conputer?
[17:32] <n8tuser> m031-> do you really honestly expect that rate on the internet?
[17:32] <Dominik1> my thanksgiving isn't too happy, UBUNTU just crashed causing me to loose my work
[17:32] <BIG-D> is there a way to use my wirless card if the card doesent have linux drivers?
[17:32] <forcumang> Dominik1 => if you want to get rid of the boot loader, you need to override it with a new MBR (master boot record)
[17:32] <Meophist> Dominik1: No, The hard drive with the windows partition was the one I wanted to install Ubuntu on but it installed on the other hard drive
[17:32] <rmitchell> big-d: what card do you have?
[17:32] <Meophist> It didn't give me an option of which hard drive to install it on
[17:32] <m031> n8tuser, no but in my local network at least
[17:32] <forcumang> Meophist => yes it does
[17:32] <BIG-D> its some noname brand
[17:32] <LjjjL> !ndiswrapper | BIG-D
[17:33] <igors> anybody know what's "Mux" in preferences of Volume Manager preferences? i should have it but i dont't...
[17:33] <n8tuser> m031-> and what have you accomplish in such?
[17:33] <forcumang> Meophist => it let's you choose 'largest continuous free space' or 'manual', both of those options let you select what you need
[17:33] <BrightLibra> Mux means multiplex
[17:33] <forcumang> the other two may override
[17:33] <Meophist> I chose Manual but it didn't give me multiple hard drives to chose from
[17:33] <tim234> i accidently deleted the start menu entry of wine - how can i now know how to start the wine config?
[17:33] <rmitchell> igors: is it avaliable in volume control preferences?
[17:33] <LjjjL> tim234: "wineconfig"
[17:33] <m031> n8tuser, faster transfers between my workstation and file server
[17:33] <Dominik1> alright guys, no body seems to be of any help with my ubuntu crashing problems is it that my case is isolated and nobody else has problems with it or is it so common that the ubuntu community trys to keep it from us?
[17:33] <tim234> LjjjL, thanks
[17:34] <igors> rmitchell, no it's not...but every tutorial say to check it...but i just don't have it :/
[17:34] <m031> n8tuser, i have 100 Mb/s from my isp so it would be nice to get at least that.
[17:34] <forcumang> Meophist => are you saying you have multiple HDDs and tried to select another HDD?
[17:34] <BrightLibra> PDF file DRM - - Trying to open a protected file under Ubuntu with Adobe says there is a missing Javascript.
[17:34] <forcumang> Meophist => but it wasn't there?
[17:34] <n8tuser> m031-> good luck with that.
[17:34] <rmitchell> igors, in volume control, what device is it?
[17:34] <Meophist> forcumang: Correct
[17:34] <forcumang> Meophist => i see
[17:34] <rmitchell> igors: mine is HDA Intel (alsa mixer)
[17:34] <Meophist> I managed to install it onto the right hard drive by disconnecting the other hard drive though.
[17:34] <forcumang> Meophist => do you have a mix of IDE and SATA or just one?
[17:35] <Manarion> how do i terminate a nonresponding application?
[17:35] <Meophist> forcumang: I'm not really sure.
[17:35] <Slart> Manarion: xkill and click on it..
[17:35] <forcumang> Meophist => do all your HDD's have little thin cables or really wide flat thin cables
[17:35] <Slart> Manarion: or use kill in a terminal.. or the system monitor .. or htop.. or pkill..
[17:35] <forcumang> ?
[17:35] <Meophist> One seems to be thin and the other really wide
[17:35] <BrightLibra> Kill is nice...
[17:35] <neoDite> Does anyone use the mobile internet dongels? I currently use the one on "three" and want to install ubuntu on my laptop too, but this is the only thing thats got me worried
[17:35] <forcumang> Meophist => you may have IDE + SATA
[17:36] <BrightLibra> The thin ones are SATA
[17:36] <Meophist> Is that a bad thing?
[17:36] <karname>   when i change my volume in gnome-volume control or change with keyboard hot key my left channel and right channel doesn't change syncly , how can fix it?
[17:36] <forcumang> Meophist => well it's not particularly good to mix them up in my opinion
[17:36] <King> i need help getting controller working with cube
[17:36] <forcumang> but
[17:36] <Meophist> :(
[17:36] <kitply> Hi everyone, i have recently done a fedora 10 installation on my previous Win XP C:. I would now require to update my /boot/grub/menu.lst file in my Ubuntu 8.10. my disk partition details are http://paste.ubuntu.com/77437/. Can anyone guie me as to what lines i need to add for booting the fedora 10.
[17:36] <Manarion> do i have xkill installed?
[17:36] <forcumang> you should be able to get to the other sata, i'm not sure,
[17:36] <igors> rmitchell, ALSA Mixer too
[17:36] <forcumang> when i had an ide and sata, it was screwing up
[17:36] <tim234> LjjjL, i have wine and wine-dev installed, but theres no "wineconfig"
[17:36] <tim234> how can that be?
[17:36] <forcumang> i took out the IDE, everything went perfect
[17:36] <Slart> Manarion: nor sure.. you might have to install it
[17:36] <Slart> Manarion: sudo apt-get install xkill in a terminal
[17:37] <kitply> *guide
[17:37] <rmitchell> igors: are you sure skype just isn't set to use that input?
[17:37] <SeanTater> Is it possible to connect a Linux computer as a "usb mass storage device" to another computer?
[17:37] <Meophist> Well, I got it on the right hdd now because I disconnected the other one, but now I have two installs
[17:37] <BlueBird> Anyone know the command i can type in to find out what kernal i'm running fron the bash screen?
[17:37] <Slart> Manarion: have you tried just typing "xkill" in a terminal?
[17:37] <BrightLibra> How about my PDF thingie...no Javascript when trying to use a password for getting in...?
[17:37] <m031> uname .-a
[17:37] <Slart> BlueBird: uname -a
[17:37] <chrome_> what is better: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Mobile QL-62 or the Intel Core duo ?
[17:37] <BlueBird> Ty
[17:37] <BrightLibra> Sure SeanTater
[17:37] <forcumang> Meophist => could format both and start fresh
[17:37] <SeanTater> BrightLibra: Something I can read on that?
[17:38] <Slart> !best | chrome_
[17:38] <[c0re]> hi. i need help with pluseaudio http://paste.ubuntu.com/77439/
[17:38] <Meophist> If I delete the Ubuntu install I don't want, would it mess up my computer?
[17:38] <BrightLibra> Sure...google it Sean...seriously. Done all the time.
[17:38] <forcumang> Meophist => no.
[17:38] <igors> rmitchell, i just can't hear with when i speak to the external mic...just with the internal
[17:38] <forcumang> Meophist => depends, actually.
[17:38] <rmitchell> igors, do you have some other recording app?
[17:38] <Manarion> Slart: just did. it worked. :)
[17:38] <King> does anyone play sauerbraten
[17:38] <forcumang> Meophist => if the install you don't want is the one that created the MBR, you need to format both.
[17:39] <igors> rmitchell, gnome-sound-recorder...
[17:39] <forcumang> or the MBR will boot into nothing
[17:39] <igors> same thing
[17:39] <forcumang> aka. grub
[17:39] <rmitchell> igors: does that record from the internal mic?
[17:39] <Meophist> MBR is the boot screen thing?
[17:39] <tim234> LjjjL, its "winecfg" ;-)
[17:39] <igors> rmitchell, yes...always...
[17:39] <forcumang> MBR = Master Boot Record
[17:39] <kitply> Hi everyone, i have recently done a fedora 10 installation on my previous Win XP C:. I would now require to update my /boot/grub/menu.lst file in my Ubuntu 8.10. my disk partition details are http://paste.ubuntu.com/77437/. Can anyone guie me as to what lines i need to add for booting the fedora 10.
[17:39] <forcumang> grub = an MBR used by ubuntu
[17:40] <forcumang> grub is the selection screen you get at boot
[17:40] <BrightLibra> Grub is the boot screen thing
[17:40] <LjjjL> tim234: ah sorry, i remembered wrong
[17:40] <Meophist> Ok, well that would be on my main hard drive then, right?
[17:40] <BrightLibra> Sad PDF....sigh.
[17:40] <forcumang> depends, it's on the last ubuntu you installed
[17:40] <Slart> kitply: I think you might get better answers to thing in a fedora channel
[17:40] <private_meta> hi. I'd need help with putting apache into autostart. it seemed to have worked before i made the upgrade to intrepid, but afterwards it didn't work anymore... can someone give me a hint there?
[17:40] <Slart> thing/this
[17:40] <forcumang> so whichever one you installed last, has the mbr active
[17:40] <King> i need help getting controller working with cube
[17:40] <rmitchell> igors: what options are in the input source in volume control?
[17:40] <Meophist> Then, it should be fine, because the good install came afterwords... I think.
[17:41] <Meophist> Well, I'll just try deleting the old install and see if my computer messes up then.
[17:41] <rmitchell> igors: i only have 'line' and 'mic'
[17:41] <igors> rmitchell, there are 3 input sources here...i've choosen "Line"
[17:41] <neoDite> !vnc
[17:41] <rmitchell> igors: what are the other options?
[17:41] <igors> rmitchell, the options are "line", "mic", "front mic" and "CD"
[17:42] <rmitchell> igors: have you tried all of them?
[17:42] <forcumang> Meophist => i wish you good luck
[17:42] <Meophist> Done...
[17:42] <igors> rmitchell, yes :(
[17:42] <Meophist> ...I think
[17:42] <_cb> What is a good ftp client for ubuntu?
[17:42] <m031> filezilla
[17:42] <LjjjL> !ftp | _cb
[17:42] <Meophist> I also have other questions...
[17:42] <forcumang> filezilla ftw
[17:42] <forcumang> Meophist => did you boot up good?
[17:42] <neoDite> !newsgroup
[17:43] <Meophist> I still haven't rebooted yet.
[17:43] <forcumang> oh okay.
[17:43] <forcumang> 09:42  Meophist> I also have other questions...
[17:43] <forcumang> shoot
[17:43] <forcumang> to kill
[17:43] <BrightLibra> What Javascript is Adobe looking for to do the DRM screen for a protected PDF file?
[17:43] <CC0> anyone tried setting up a cs 1.6 server on ubuntu?
[17:43] <Meophist> In any case, I'm still running Windows because Ubuntu's not working with my Internet connection yet.
[17:43] <forcumang> CC0 => no, but i imagine it's sexy
[17:44] <forcumang> Meophist => wireless, or wired?
[17:44] <BrightLibra> Meo => or both?
[17:44] <Meophist> My wireless card has its own driver, and when I checked Ubuntu's help, it said I needed a certain program.
[17:44] <Meophist> wireless...
[17:44] <forcumang> Meophist => a lot of wireless cards don't even work on linux, make sure yours is compatible
[17:44] <m031> Meophist, ndiswrapper ?
[17:45] <Meophist> m031: yes.
[17:45] <sebastian> -.-* Ohh man -.-*
[17:45] <forcumang> Man, I need to get a wireless router...
[17:45] <forcumang> i'm living in the stone age
[17:45] <Meophist> I couldn't find the program where it asked me to look to install so...
[17:45] <igors> rmitchell, i have line in and line boost in in playback options...line in is max volume, and when i put line boost on max too...i get a big noise...and when i speak in mic i can hear some strange noise too...:S
[17:46] <BrightLibra> For - you do....wireless is fun to fiddle with.
[17:46] <Meophist> I looked for it myself and did a whole bunch of weird stuff in the process...
[17:46] <mtinman> forcumang: You ain't missing that much...
[17:46] <m031> Meophist, download the windows driver for your wireless card
[17:46] <forcumang> meh, the wires aren't even put up anywhere
[17:46] <ComradeHaz> !timer 20min: foodz
[17:46] <forcumang> i just have them strewn across the floor
[17:46] <rmitchell> igors: you must have a different model than i do, we have completely different options
[17:46] <forcumang> heh
[17:46] <ComradeHaz> uh, crap, sorry :D
[17:46] <Meophist> My wireless card's driver is on a disc.
[17:47] <forcumang> Meophist => are you sure that's for linux?
[17:47] <m031> Meophist, xp driver?
[17:47] <forcumang> that disc?
[17:47] <atari> hi
[17:47] <Meophist> m031: Yes.
[17:47] <BrightLibra> Hey Atari.
[17:47] <mtinman> atari: hey.
[17:47] <forcumang> Meophist => xp driver isn't gonna install on ubuntu
[17:47] <forcumang> ubuntu is linux.
[17:47] <BlueBird> whats kinit?
[17:47] <atari> is it possible to add a shell script to the network manager to execute instead of a device or so?
[17:47] <atari> hi BrightLibra, mtinman
[17:47] <Meophist> I thought that was what ndiswrapper was for?
[17:47] <BrightLibra> So no thoughts on my Javascript thingie for Adobe PDF readin'?
[17:47] <rmitchell> forcumang: you need the windows driver for ndiswrapper
[17:47] <ComradeHaz> [17:48:10] <forcumang> Meophist => xp driver isn't gonna install on ubuntu «--- ndiswrapper?
[17:47] <m031> forcumang, with ndiswrapper it just might
[17:48] <forcumang> don't listen to me: i don't even have wireless
[17:48] <forcumang> sorry
[17:48] <forcumang> lmao
[17:48] <mtinman> atari: Happy Turkey day :)
[17:48] <gnutron> BrightLibra: try another pdf reader, see if that works.
[17:48] <Guillem> atari, you can mark a connection not to start by default
[17:48] <Slart> BrightLibra: nope.. never seen a "protected" pdf
[17:48] <Meophist> But I'm having trouble installing ndiswrapper.
[17:48] <ComradeHaz> whatty day?
[17:48] <rmitchell> forcumang, go buy a wireless router on black friday
[17:48] <BrightLibra> Did...it's the silly DRM issues.
[17:48] <forcumang> black friday?
[17:48] <atari> mtinman: we dont care about that here ;)
[17:48] <m031> Meophist, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[17:48] <BrightLibra> University of Phoenix text books, come that way
[17:48] <forcumang> i've never heard of any black friday. o.o
[17:48] <Bokkie> I need coffee
[17:48] <rmitchell> day after thanksgiving... massive sales
[17:48] <forcumang> me too.
[17:48] <forcumang> ah.
[17:49] <forcumang> ic.
[17:49] <atari> Guillem: i have a script for VPN. now i'd like to use them
[17:49] <BrightLibra> Friday when all the retailers go into the black out of the red
[17:49] <Guillem> atari, you can setup the VPN in the network manager as well
[17:49] <johnny5> Anyone know why my download speed when installing packages via apt-get is stuck at 10k?
[17:49] <Bokkie> I need a script for the coffee machine here
[17:49] <Guillem> atari, it is easier since you do not have to sudo each time you need the VPN
[17:49] <Meophist> ...I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be simple...
[17:49] <Slart> johnny5: you're using the big original server instead of a mirror?
[17:49] <forcumang> Bokkie => ain't that the truth
[17:49] <BrightLibra> Uh-oh....is this a Johnny joke?
[17:50] <bakarat> i'm trying to get 1080i, but it is a bit flaky, there is a bit over overscan and although the desktop background is nice & crisp, the stuff on it is a bit...less crisp
[17:50] <atari> Guillem: can youu tell me how? i have a working config for openvpn but i cant add it to the network manager
[17:50] <johnny5> could be, i didn't change anything
[17:50] <Slart> Meophist: who told you those lies? ;)
[17:50] <Bokkie> Always
[17:50] <Dark_Wolf> hi. I'm back again. Anyway, ubuntu is telling me it can't reach the repositories and I'm clearly connected to the internet. Anyone have a reason?
[17:50] <Bokkie> firewall
[17:50] <Guillem> atari, I'm sorry, I thought it was cisco's vpnc
[17:50] <yagga> where can i learn how to compile kernel and or how to make a bootable cd with similar gui to PING (Parted Is Not Ghost)
[17:50] <BrightLibra> Dark - you got the right repositories selected?
[17:50] <johnny5> Slart - how can i change it to something a little fatser?
[17:50] <Meophist> Start: Don't quite remember anymore. Think I'm going to kill the person once I do.
[17:50] <Slart> Meophist: Ubuntu (as most other things) are really simple when it works..  when it doesn't things get scary fast =)
[17:50] <Dark_Wolf> BrightLibra: defaults
[17:50] <atari> Guillem: nope :/
[17:51] <BrightLibra> Dark - uh...pick something else! (lol)
[17:51] <atari> is the network manager part of the gnome project?
[17:51] <Slart> johnny5: in system, administration, software sources you can select mirrors to download from, select something closer to you
[17:51] <Guillem> atari, search if there is a package for network-manager and openvpn
[17:51] <NotADJ> How long until OO.o 3 is in the repos
[17:51] <NotADJ> ?
[17:51] <johnny5> sorry, ubuntu server
[17:51] <[c0re]> i need help. pluseaudio usage 100% cpu
[17:51] <atari> Guillem: yes there is
[17:51] <Meophist> Start: Yeah, well, it's taken many tries for it to "work" for me, and it's still not quite.
[17:51] <forcumang> Meophist => after you learn the first time, you know forever, be patient my friend.
[17:51] <atari> Guillem: but i cant add the existing config
[17:51] <Slart> NotADJ: If I understood the ubuntu people right.. until the ooo-people make a good version of it
[17:52] <m031> Meophist, lspci |grep -i wireless
[17:52] <Meophist> forcumang: The installer CD crashed on me many times....
[17:52] <Slart> johnny5: ah.. you can change it manually in /etc/apt/sources.list.. there might be some apps to do it for you too
[17:52] <Guillem> atari,  :( no option at right-mouse on network-manager -> VPN->new?
[17:52] <Meophist> m031: what?
[17:52] <Sierradump> Can I get someones opinion on a 32bit or 64bit install on a HP Pavillion Laptop??????
[17:52] <Guillem> atari, sorry: left mouse btn
[17:52] <BrightLibra> O.k.... Happy T-Day to all and coffee all 'round!  Aloha!
[17:52] <Slart> Sierradump: how much memory?
[17:52] <atari> Guillem: sure. i can add it. but the plugin doesnt accept the config...
[17:52] <Sierradump> Just wondering if 64bit is still a NO-No....
[17:53] <ComradeHaz> [17:53:26] <Sierradump> Can I get someones opinion on a 32bit or 64bit install on a HP Pavillion Laptop?????? «---- what processor?
[17:53] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'uf_show' in /usr/local/src/gajim-0.11.4/src/common/helpers.py's line "uf_show = _('Free for Chat')"?
[17:53] <m031> Meophist, run that command so i can determine what chip you have
[17:53] <vvv> a disk partition is shown as vfat in /etc/fstab  and as linux xfs  in cfdisk
[17:53] <ComradeHaz> [17:53:39] <Sierradump> Just wondering if 64bit is still a NO-No.... «--- certainly not
[17:53] <Slart> Sierradump: nah.. 64 bit is alright.. I've run it the last two years
[17:53] <vvv> plz help
[17:53] <Dark_Wolf> BrightLibra: it still can't find any repos on any server
[17:53] <atari> Guillem: i dont know where the debug mode is to find out whats going wrong
[17:53] <Guillem> atari, and you cannot fillin the data?
[17:53] <Sierradump> I have the AMD Turion 64 X2 (2.0Ghz)   Model # TL-60
[17:53] <NotADJ> :O
[17:53] <rmitchell> sierradump: 64 bit makes flash and some other things a pain, but you can't just have half your bits slacking off :)
[17:53] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => have you tried rebooting?
[17:53] <Meophist> m031: Alright, I guess that means I'll need to restart into Ubuntu then.
[17:53] <atari> Guillem: thats not that easy...
[17:53] <Slart> rmitchell, Sierradump, flash actually works ok these days..
[17:53] <ComradeHaz> [17:54:03] <Sierradump> I have the AMD Turion 64 X2 (2.0Ghz)   Model # TL-60 «--- I'd install 64 bit
[17:53] <Guillem> atari, I don't know, it was soo easy to setup vpnc through nm....
[17:53] <atari> Guillem: i need more options than these in the form. thats why i'd like to use the existing config
[17:54] <m031> Meophist, oh, check in device manager then
[17:54] <vvv> a disk partition is shown as vfat in /etc/fstab  and as linux xfs  in cfdisk
[17:54] <Sierradump> Will 64bit significantly decrease my battery life?
[17:54] <[c0re]> i need help. pluseaudio usage 100% cpu
[17:54] <Dark_Wolf> forcumang: I just booted
[17:54] <ComradeHaz> Up to you though Sierradump. But not much that's a problem these days
[17:54] <rmitchell> slart: i have it working alright on my 64, but it takes some work, not out of the box
[17:54] <Slart> Sierradump: I don't think so, no
[17:54] <vvv> plz help
[17:54] <Sierradump> What about SKYPE - I read previously (a few months ago) skype wouldn't work in 64bit...
[17:54] <Dark_Wolf> and rebooting would require disconnecting from here
[17:54] <vvv> plz help
[17:54] <ComradeHaz> [17:54:49] <Sierradump> Will 64bit significantly decrease my battery life? «---- don;t see why it should at all
[17:54] <rmitchell> sierradump, skype works fine
[17:54] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => not if you had another computer, anyways
[17:54] <Slart> rmitchell: oh? never had any problems with it on my machine.. I must be lucky
[17:54] <vvv> plz help
[17:54] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => obviously it's not your net, so your repos have to be misconfigured
[17:55] <vvv> plz help
[17:55] <Dark_Wolf> :/
[17:55] <Guillem> atari, OH, bad news I guess then. This happened to me with the previous network-manager... with this new one, I can setup all the things I need for my vpnc case.
[17:55] <Dark_Wolf> any ideas?
[17:55] <Slart> vvv: just ask your question.. if noone answers just repeat the question every 5 minutes or so.. don't just say "anyone?" or "plz help"
[17:55] <Sierradump> I am still sort of new to Linux/Ubuntu... I usually get all of my software through package manager - is there good support for 64bit applications now?
[17:55] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => unless you have <128KBs net
[17:55] <forcumang> that would explain the 10KB/s
[17:55] <m031> Meophist, ndiswrapper isnt that difficult
[17:55] <vvv> ok boss
[17:55] <ComradeHaz> vvv change fstab then?
[17:55] <Meophist> In device manager? I think it's this "802.11g/b Wireless LAN Client Adapter"
[17:56] <ComradeHaz> not really sure what you're saying
[17:56] <Slart> vvv: use the time to google and search the ubuntu forums.. also try improving your question.. make sure all the info is in there.. make it easy for people to answer without interrogating you
[17:56] <rmitchell> sierradump, support is good, pacakges from the package manager are 64 bit, or use the 32 bit libraries, so no worries there
[17:56] <Guillem> atari, have to go... good luck....
[17:56] <vvv> also how can i format the disk?
[17:56] <Meophist> m031: I'm having trouble finding the darn thing.
[17:56] <ComradeHaz> [17:56:49] <vvv> also how can i format the disk? «--- gparted
[17:56] <m031> Meophist, manufacturer?
[17:56] <rmitchell> sierradump, you can even chose 64 bit on getdeb.net
[17:56] <Meophist> Let me look at the box
[17:56] <mker> I set up sftp on ubuntu 8.10 according to http://passthejager.org/blog/?p=102 and started with "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start" but I can't connect to the server. Tried gftp but that didn't work, I'm not sure if it's because I set it up wrong or because I just don't know how to connect to it. Can someone help me out?
[17:57] <Dark_Wolf> forcumang: I'm on 31.1 Kbps
[17:57] <Slart> Sierradump: the only thing I've found that doesn't work is the security software for my bank.. they only offer that as a 32-bit plugin for firefox..
[17:57] <naf> Anyone? On Ubuntu 8.10, with input-hotplug, how do you set the mouse protocol?
[17:57] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => that explains the 10KB/s connection...
[17:57]  * Meophist has somehow found the box for another wireless pci card...
[17:57] <forcumang> what is the problem...
[17:58] <Meophist> Found it, it's the Cyber Station Wireless PCI Adapter NW-5411
[17:58] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => the reason your install is not going past 10KB/s, is your net connection, nothing else.
[17:58] <Dark_Wolf> yes... what IS the problem?
[17:58] <naf> Anyone? On Ubuntu 8.10, with input-hotplug, how do you set the mouse protocol?
[17:58] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => your connection is
[17:58] <ufa> hiiii
[17:58] <Sierradump> rmitchell - when you say use the 32bit libraries - does that mean I can run 32bit applications on my 64bit OS?
[17:58] <ufa> Everytime I reboot, ubuntu changes my MAC address
[17:58] <Dark_Wolf> forcumang: I don't care about speed. it's the fact that nothing connects that bothers me
[17:58] <ufa> why?
[17:59] <Slart> naf: one repeat every 5 minutes is enough.. if someone knows they will answer.. if they don't repeating it every minute won't help
[17:59] <Dark_Wolf> I can't get into the synaptic
[17:59] <Dark_Wolf> or get restricted drivers
[17:59] <rmitchell> sierradump, generally, yes.
[17:59] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => seeing as irc takes less than 1KBs to use, it could just be the fact that your connection line doesn't reach the repos
[17:59] <Sierradump> Cool so I will go 64bit !   Now the question is do I go 8.10 or 8.04?  Is 8.10 stable yet?
[17:59] <m031> Meophist, looks like a realtek card
[18:00] <ufa> i cannot see a reason to linux change my ip without explicit command to do so
[18:00] <rmitchell> sierradump, i use 8.10, no problems
[18:00] <Slart> Sierradump: try the live cd before you decide.. but I'd go with 8.10
[18:00] <private_meta> hi. I'd need help with putting apache into autostart. it seemed to have worked before i made the upgrade to intrepid, but afterwards it didn't work anymore... can someone give me a hint there?
[18:00] <Sierradump> I am going to be travelling and don't want to run into any issues once abroa
[18:00] <LjjjL> ufa: the *IP*, or the *MAC address*? those are two entirely different things
[18:00] <ufa> the MAC address
[18:00] <Dark_Wolf> forcumang: I've always had access to repos at this speed
[18:00] <rmitchell> sierradump, if you have any interst in mulitple monitor stuff, 8.10 has the best support i've seen
[18:00] <ufa> LjjjL >> Everytime i reboot, my ISP kdo not connect me
[18:00] <detrate> did ubuntu 8.10 change their default sans serif font for web?
[18:01] <Slart> detrate: not that I've noticed..
[18:01] <Sierradump> Do you all use Gnome?  I kind of like KDE -> I know Gnome is the default for Ubuntu... Any opinions on this? Is it just preference?
[18:01] <Slart> Sierradump: try kubuntu
[18:01] <detrate> well then... something weird has happened
[18:01] <LjjjL> ufa: perhaps you have a network card that doesn't really have a fixed MAC, but rather chooses one at random? there should be commands to enforce a given MAC address available in Ubuntu
[18:01] <Sierradump> (rmitchell -> this is a laptop so not sure if I will ever get around to multiple monitors!)
[18:01] <rmitchell> sierradump, i've used both, i prefer gnome, you can install both if you want. install ubuntu first, then install kubuntu-desktop
[18:01] <ufa> LjjjL >> A wasnt aware that exist a nic with "changing MAC"
[18:02] <LjjjL> ufa: i think there are some, not entirely sure though
[18:02] <maxbaldwin> Sierradump: KDE is default in Kubuntu, which I use. Yeah, preference mostly.
[18:02] <rmitchell> kubuntu-desktop is a package, incase that wasn't clear
[18:02] <m031> Meophist, and ubuntu doesnt recognize the card at all?
[18:02] <LjjjL> !info macchanger | ufa, in any case, here's a possibility (i think there are others possily better ones)
[18:02] <_cb> Any good HTML editors for Ubuntu? (I do much of my HTML coding by hand. Didn't like the restrictions of front page.)
[18:02] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => the only advice i can give on that, is reboot, sorry i couldn't help
[18:02] <Sierradump> Great!  Hey I really appreciate the info guys!  Gonna go d/l 8.10 64bit and give it a shot.  I have about 7 days before I leave so I will play with it to make sure I like it!
[18:02] <rmitchell> _cb, check out nvu
[18:03] <Slart> _cb: try.. hmm.. what's it called.. blue something.. bluefish
[18:03] <Sierradump> So I can get Kubuntu-Desktop (the package) and switch back/forth between gnome and kde?
[18:03] <Meophist> m031: I don't know if it doesn't recognize it or not, but it doesn't look like it could use it.
[18:03] <Slart> !info bluefish
[18:03] <Sierradump> What about applications?  Aren't applications dependent on the GUI?
[18:03] <Slart> Sierradump: sure
[18:03] <Meophist> I tried entering my information for it but it would connect
[18:03] <Slart> Sierradump: they work in both
[18:03] <Meophist> wouln't*
[18:03] <Meophist> wouldn't*
[18:03] <Sierradump> SWEEET!
[18:03] <rmitchell> sierradump, apps just use the libraries, i use amarok on gnome with no problems
[18:03] <Sierradump> Alright I am going to start this install now.
[18:03] <Sierradump> OOOOHHHH 1 more question.
[18:04] <m031> Meophist, http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/ might work with your card
[18:04] <Slart> Sierradump: good luck.. we'll be here if you have more questions
[18:04] <Sierradump> Right now I only have the MK-36 processor in my laptop (single core 64bit 2.0ghz) I ordered the TL-60 and it should be here Saturday or Monday...
[18:04] <Sierradump> TL-60 is dual core, 64bit...
[18:04] <_cb> Is there a way I can see what there is info on? Couple of times people have type info... and I have gottenr really good info.
[18:04] <LjjjL> ufa: see if you have errors logged like in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-526878.html
[18:04] <Sierradump> If I install with the Single core MK-36  processor do I have to REINSTALL when I get the dual core, or can I just pop it in and go?
[18:04] <Slart> _cb: !info works for all packages in intrepid.. same as in synaptic
[18:05] <m031> Meophist, the support for many other chipsets are excellent, try that driver or ndiswrapper with your xp drivers
[18:05] <Slart> Sierradump: I think it will work for both...  as long as both cpu's are 64-bit..
[18:05] <vvv> Sierradump: GUI? it is not related with processor
[18:05] <forcumang> Sierradump => it really depends, if you want to utilize all of your 64bit processor, you should reinstall with x64 ubuntu
[18:05] <_cb> What I mean is that when someone type !info blue fish | _cb they are directing the bot to give info on blue fish. How can I see what other topics does the bot have information on?
[18:06] <forcumang> if you don't care much about maxing out your 64bit, stay with 32
[18:06] <vvv> Sierradump:GUI? it has nothin to do with processor
[18:06] <Meophist> I would like to try ndiswrapper, but the help that was included in the OS didn't quite pan out.
[18:06] <rmitchell> sierradump, when you install, put you're /home/ in a seperate partition, that way if you have to reinstall, you don't lose your data
[18:06] <kitche> _cb: by looking at the brain of the bot hang on a sec
[18:06] <Slart> _cb: !info just fetches information on packages.. there are lots of other factoids.. try !help or !bot
[18:06] <rmitchell> i recommend doing that with any install, saved my data countless times
[18:06] <vvv> Sierradump:
[18:06] <_cb> !help
[18:06] <kitche> !ubottu > _cb
[18:07] <ufa> LjjjL >> Thx, I will check it out
[18:07] <vvv> Sierradump:GUI has nothing to do with processor
[18:07] <bakarat> i have nvidia 8600 GTS and a screen capable of 1080i, but i can't get it to work perfectly, there is overscan when i activate it and although the background is crisp, the icons on it etc are a bit shaky, how can i fix this?
[18:07] <_cb> I just love this channel ;) thanks!
[18:08] <vvv> i mean- changing ur processor wont affetct
[18:08] <Sierradump> Yes, right now I have single core 64bit processor but am getting a DUAL core 64bit processor in a day or 2... Just wondering if I can install now and then put new processor in, or if I have to REINSTALL after a processor upgrade?
[18:08] <forcumang> Sierradump => no.
[18:08] <Meophist> m031: I downloaded it, how would I use it once I get into ubuntu?
[18:08] <forcumang> Sierradump => you should not have to reinstall
[18:08] <rmitchell> sierradump, after you throw in the new processor, just check system monitor and see if its showing both of your cores, if so, you're set
[18:08] <Slart> Sierradump: if you moved from 32-bit to 64bit you'd have to reinstall.. but just changing single core to dual core is alright afaik
[18:09] <vvv> if u r upgrading-> it always works
[18:09] <Dark_Wolf> anyone have any clue why my computer doesn't find repos?
[18:09] <jgb> I tried playing a rmvb file in Mplayer by setting the codecs to Realvideo in Mplayer's settings.  Now _every_ player, mplayer, vlc and kmplayer(with xine/totem whatever) plays ALL video in a washed-out pastel colour.  Any ideas what is causing this? (I have changed the setting back)
[18:09] <vvv> ya..slart is right!
[18:09] <igors> anybody else using ubuntu in macbook? and could help me with mic...?
[18:10] <Sierradump> Great!  I am super stoked... Thanks alot guys - I am sure I will be back here to pick your brain on software packages! In the meantime I am off to install!
[18:10] <Sierradump> Thanks again!
[18:10] <forcumang> Sierradump => have fun.
[18:10] <Slart> jgb: try checking the gstreamer-properties.. afaik they all use those
[18:10] <vvv> Sierradump: bi
[18:10] <rmitchell> jgb: i had that problem a while ago, can't remember how i fixed it, i think i went into totem (movieplayer)'s settings
[18:10] <forcumang> Slart => i've never found this out, what does afaik mean?
[18:11] <Slart> forcumang: as far as I know
[18:11] <forcumang> ah.
[18:11] <rmitchell> jgb: in totem's settings, you can adjust the saturation, brightness, etc, i think this could be your problem, there is a 'reset to defaults' button
[18:12] <Meophist> ...I just noticed that m031 disconnected :(
[18:12] <Slart> forcumang: here are a lot of them =) http://www.acronymfinder.com
[18:12] <Meophist> So now I don't know what to do orz
[18:13] <wib> hi. vlc/totem/mplayer quit without an error message when trying to play back any video file. ubuntu 8.10, ati x1300, radeon driver, compiz on(, fglrx is not an option ;))
[18:13] <bombshelter13> If i have the packages I use installed on one machine and want to duplicate the same package selection to another machine with a fresh install, what's the easiest way to do this?
[18:13] <Slart> !clone
[18:13] <Dark_Wolf> never mind
[18:13] <Dark_Wolf> found them
[18:14] <jgb> Slart: no luck, will try rmitchell's idea
[18:14] <deaddog> hello
[18:14] <Juak> hi there
[18:14] <bombshelter13> ubottu: Thanks!
[18:14] <bombshelter13> Slart: thanks :P
[18:14] <Meophist> nyak! This stinks...
[18:15] <IceMax> Hey there, i just did a bunch of updates for ubuntu 8.04 64 bit, and now it hangs when i try to restart
[18:15] <Juak> help! anyone knows what could this mean: "stdin: not a tty" ???
[18:15] <rmitchell> juak: what produces that error?
[18:16] <maxbaldwin> juak: what command did you run to do that?
[18:16] <jgb> rmitchell: nope, it must be deeper than that...
[18:16] <gnutron> Juak: literally = standard terminal display IN is not a teletype, or aka terminal.
[18:16] <superkiw2> hello, i'm using ubuntu desktop version as a server - how do I disable the gdmgreeter? I don't want it start at boot.
[18:17] <Meophist> Can somebody else help me get my wireless card working?
[18:17] <rmitchell> meophist, where are you stuck at?
[18:17] <maxbaldwin> superkiw2: why not use Ubuntu Server 8.10 / 8.04?
[18:18] <shovi> Hey does WINE work with Adobe Fireworks 4???
[18:18] <Juak> rmitchell, maxbaldwin: dsh (dancer's shell) with a group of remote hosts
[18:18] <shovi> CS4
[18:18] <Meophist> m031 told me to download the thing at http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/ and I don't know what to do next
[18:18] <forcumang> Meophist => Is your card in this list? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[18:18] <IceMax> Hey there, i just did a bunch of updates for ubuntu 8.04 64 bit, and now it hangs when i try to restart. any ideas?
[18:19] <rmitchell> jauk: ctrl+alt+F1 will get you into a tty (teletype) terminal, log in and run it from there, see what it does
[18:19] <unop> superkiw2, disable the gdm service
[18:19] <Meophist> forcumang: I don't think so.
[18:19] <Juak> gnutron:  i understand it semantically too but i don't know what could be possibly causing it
[18:19] <unop> !boot | superkiw2
[18:19] <maxbaldwin> Juak:  you probably need to assign it to a different tty, like  tty1  instead of stdin. and then Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to tty1
[18:19] <forcumang> Meophist => that list is the supported wireless cards of ubuntu
[18:19] <forcumang> if your card is not there, you can not use it
[18:19] <Meophist> ...
[18:19] <dfgas> anyone have a repo for ubuntu for compiz 0.7.9? i had one but the mainainer is not maintaining it for now  or one that has more plugins for compiz
[18:19] <bombshelter13> Slart: Do you know if that command just installs the packages from the original on the new one? Or will it also uninstall packages on the new machine not present on the old one?
[18:19] <forcumang> Meophist => same thing with my old wireless usb'er
[18:19] <superkiw2> maxbaldwin: The installed version works like a charm: when I installed it I tried with server version first, but it didn't work well with my other computer, but the default one does.
[18:19] <genii> IceMax: Maybe ctrl-alt-f8  and see what it's trying to work on
[18:19] <rmitchell> meophist, what card do you have?
[18:19] <Slart> bombshelter13: oh.. I have no idea.. never used it
[18:20] <Meophist> Cyber Station NW-5411 Wireless PCI Adapter
[18:20] <gnutron> Juak: i undestand, the input command is looking for a terminal to use for output, and isn't finding one. very interesting, what did you type?
[18:20] <nb1> superkiw2: I think if you disable S30gdm in the appropriate /etc/rc#.d directory it will not startup
[18:20] <Slart> bombshelter13: the first command just makes a text file of the packages installed on a machine
[18:20] <superkiw2> thanks, i'l try that.
[18:20] <Meophist> forcumang: Ubuntu's help said I might be able to use the windows driver for it using ndiswrapper...
[18:20] <Slart> bombshelter13: the second installs all those packages on the second machine
[18:20] <Jhon> I need to create a scritp who is treasures for the script????
[18:21] <rmitchell> meophist: do you have the windows driver?
[18:21] <Slart> bombshelter13: so it won't sync the packages installed
[18:21] <Meophist> rmitchell: Yes, right in front of me on a CD.
[18:21] <bombshelter13> Slart: Hmm, okay :/ May still use it if I can't find something better.
[18:21] <Meophist> I tried the help with Ubuntu but I think I couldn't complete step 2.
[18:21] <forcumang> ndiswrapper didn't even work for my wireless usb thing
[18:21] <gnutron> Juak: read your /var/log/messages or syslog for clues possibly... as root
[18:21] <forcumang> it was so cheap, heh
[18:21] <superkiw2> oh and another thing: I use trickle to control download/upload speed of a program. But the trickle program uses 100% of the cpu. I use cpulimit on trickle to make it not use 100% but, it shouldn't use 100% cpu. WHat's wrong?
[18:22] <rmitchell> meophist, copy if from the cd to your hard drive, you should copy the .INF file
[18:22] <bombshelter13> Slart: Maybe I could make a modified version of that command to create a list of the packages that are not installed on the first machine, instead of the ones that are installed... and then use that file to uninstall the same packages on the second machine
[18:22] <Meophist> I've tried that, but simply copying the inf file didn't make my wireless card work.
[18:22] <nb1> superkiw2: maybe this would do it: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm , or use one of ubuntu's configuration programs to disable it
[18:22] <jgb> rmitchell: I fixed it by resetting the hue in gmplayer's equaliser.  no idea where it is stored for all the apps that use it
[18:22] <basso> Hello, I simply cannot get Catalyst Control Center to start, i double click and nothing happens
[18:22] <genii> rmitchell: You need also any .sys files or so on as well.
[18:22] <mroc> hi all.  how do i change my login screen resolution?  it went way high after a recent update.  there doesn't seem to be an obvious way.
[18:22] <rmitchell> meophist: right, next step
[18:23] <Juak> gnutron: thanks. i'm trying also in ubuntu-server to fix this. the command i'm using is "dsh"
[18:23] <rmitchell> meophist: sudo ndiswrapper -i /your/driver.inf   thats case sensitive
[18:24] <Meophist> Wouldn't I have to install ndiswrapper first?
[18:24] <rmitchell> jgb: gld you figured it out
[18:24] <rmitchell> meophist: i belive its installed by default. sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper, if its not
[18:24] <forcumang> kinda hard to do, if he has no internet.
[18:24] <forcumang> :P
[18:24] <Slart> bombshelter13: sure.. it's just text files so it just takes some work.. and text-file-mangling voodoo
[18:25] <Meophist> Ok, I guess I'll try that.
[18:25] <cappiz> i i have a ssh server on a network <IP_ADDRESS> ith IP (NAT internal) i can connect to it externaly. And i want to ssh into it and do a ssh tunnel so i can connect to <IP_ADDRESS> (another machine on the NAT'ed network)
[18:25] <rmitchell> meophist: you have a wired connection?
[18:25] <Meophist> rmitchell: No.
[18:25] <cappiz> im sitting on the outside of the network
[18:25] <cappiz> how would i make the tunnel?
[18:25] <bombshelter13> Slart: well I'm probably gonna try it out later tonight, I'll see if I can figure out the right syntax
[18:25] <Slart> bombshelter13: good luck =)
[18:26] <Sierradump> Can anyone tell me what application Chuck is using at 33 seconds in on this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE0_Vc3BfXs&feature=channel   --- The application in question is the one that shows the CPU usage, ram/cache/etc.. memory usage, network usage etc... --->  It is all seamlessly integrated into the desktop background.  They aren't widgets (can't click/drag them around)...
[18:26] <forcumang> Meophist => you could always download the package in windows, and transfer it over, if you don't have it installed by default.
[18:26] <rmitchell> meophist:just type ndiswrapper into a terminal, see if it can find it
[18:26] <Slart> Sierradump: sounds like conky
[18:26] <Meophist> I'll try...
[18:27] <Meophist> In the help, it said to install the program using this other thing but I couldn't find it in the other thing.
[18:27] <forcumang> ill see for you right now
[18:27] <forcumang> i havent installed it
[18:27] <Sierradump> Chuck put out a live DVD of some software he had been working on and I really liked that utility! but I couldn't find it anywhere...
[18:27] <forcumang> sec
[18:27] <Sierradump> Not sure if it matters but he is using Debian?
[18:27] <forcumang> no
[18:27] <forcumang> ndiswrapper is not default with ubuntu 8.10 intrepid
[18:27] <forcumang> btw
[18:27] <FloodBot3> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:27] <Dreamglider> is amarok the best audio player for linux?
[18:27] <rmitchell> dreamglider: yes
[18:27] <Dreamglider> or what would be the best to use*
[18:28] <Slart> !best | Dreamglider
[18:28] <Slart> Dreamglider: no
[18:28] <Meophist> Although with the old install I really fooled around some stuff and...
[18:28] <Maveas> !youtube
[18:28] <LF|Irssi> Sierradump: naaa, conky pretty much works in all distros not just debian
[18:28] <bastid_raZor> Sierradump; i use conky much in the same way. it works very well.
[18:28] <Slart> Dreamglider: I like mpd.. but it all depends on what you want
[18:28] <Meophist> Found ndiswrapper on the CD and installed it but...
[18:28] <private_meta> damn... i wondered why noone wrote here... my session timed out XD
[18:28] <rmitchell> dreamglider, there are several options, depends on what you like, i like amarok, and it'll work with gnome just fine
[18:28] <maxbaldwin> Maveas: Please don't play with the bot.
[18:28] <Dreamglider> i just want a good audio player that does not take ages to load my music colletion
[18:28] <planttt> hey all. I have some WLAN oriented questions; how is it possible that iwconfig says I am connected with 11MBits/s, but I don't get more than 900kBits/s in copying data over the net
[18:28] <Maveas> Huh? Play with the bot?
[18:28] <Slart> Sierradump: it might be some kind of desklet too.. those are pretty polished and blingy
[18:29] <Dreamglider> like amarok takes for ever to load
[18:29] <Meophist> The next step in the help didn't told me to do something with something that didn't exist.
[18:29] <ph8> what's the imap server of choice these days? dovecot?
[18:29] <Sierradump> is Conky "clunky" as in obtrusive to the desktop?  Whatever chuck used in that video is sweet - you can put icons ontop of the graphs etc... The monitors/meters/graphs etc... integrate into the background image...
[18:29] <n8tuser> planttt-> no guarantees of how much traffic your ISP or the far end server doles out eh?
[18:29] <planttt> ph8: yes, it is simple and it just works
[18:29] <bastid_raZor> Dreamglider; try rhythmbox
[18:29] <fosco_> Dreamglider, try banshee, listen, elisa, audacious...
[18:29] <Maveas> I've got no sound when I'm watching videos on YouTube. How can that be? :S
[18:29] <planttt> n8tuser: it's all local, no provider in the mix
[18:30] <ph8> planttt:  Suitable for a mass shared hosting situation?
[18:30] <linny> hi this might be a really silly question but is it possible to change file permissions recursively , atm i only know how to change one file at a time ?
[18:30] <bastid_raZor> Sierradump; clunky, no.. you can put conky on the widget layer.
[18:30] <Slart> linny: there is a -R switch
[18:30] <gnutron> linny: chmod -R
[18:30] <planttt> ph8: we use it at work, I still use courier for my hosting company
[18:30] <rmitchell> meophist, all you need to do is install the ndiswrapper-common package, but if you don't have net access, that could prove difficult
[18:30] <Slart> linny: man chmod will show you the way to enlightenment =)
[18:30] <nb1> linny: chmod has a -R option for recursive use
[18:30] <Meophist> I think I managed that somehow.
[18:30] <planttt> ph8: mostly because it was setup a few years ago
[18:30] <n8tuser> planttt-> what devices you have in between ?
[18:30] <linny> i was using small r :) thanks guys
[18:30] <rmitchell> meophist, so you have it installed?
[18:30] <nb1> linny: also, chmod accepts wildcard characters
[18:30] <Jaza> hi I am new to linex and i am trying to use my cam
[18:31] <Meophist> On my old install, which I deleted.
[18:31] <forcumang> happy thanksgiving everyone
[18:31] <Jaza> happy thanksgiving
[18:31] <forcumang> let's celebrate us eating with the people we killed soon after
[18:31] <forcumang> hurray!
[18:31] <planttt> n8tuser: i have a laptop connected by wire to a linksys wrt54, and then a wlan link to a laptop upstairs, running on a conceptronic (atheros, madwifi drivers)
[18:31] <Meophist> I searched the Ubuntu CD with the keywords in the help...
[18:31] <linny> nb1: i did sus the wildcards but thats no good for deep dir trees thanks again all
[18:31] <LF|Irssi> lol
[18:31] <Jaza> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH MY CAM STITUATION?
[18:31] <Meophist> But I'm not too sure if I installed it correctly.
[18:31] <planttt> n8tuser: then, copying a 10MB file with netcat gives me 900kBits/s in iptrad
[18:31] <Slart> Jaza: not if you keep yelling like that
[18:31] <planttt> s/iptrad/iptraf/
[18:32] <ph8> planttt:  I have courier now, but i've got a user with a 3GB mailbox (or entire account if you prefer) and courier keeps telling him he's exceeded his quota, i've tried setting quotas in all sorts of different ways and can't shake it
[18:32] <Jaza> Soryy
[18:32] <r3r3> Jaza, try writing bigger
[18:32] <rmitchell> jaza, what kind of camera?
[18:32] <Jaza> its a logitech
[18:32] <planttt> ph8: tell him to clear his mailbox, 3G is WAAAY too much
[18:32] <mroc> hi all.  how do i change my login screen resolution?  it went way high after a recent update.  there doesn't seem to be an obvious way.
[18:32] <Jaza> its working and we didn't download the disc
[18:32] <Meophist> I know next to nothing about actually using *nix systems so...
[18:32] <Jaza> so we put it on the and its very dark
[18:33] <planttt> ph8: anyway, at work we use dovecot, one employee uses a lot of mail (as in many bytes in too many mails), dovecot never complained
[18:33] <Meophist> I was really just doing stuff blind hoping it would work.
[18:33] <n8tuser> planttt-> there are no guarantees of speed with wifi, lots of overhead too
[18:33] <Jaza> It's working, but the cam is dark and  you can see the images
[18:33] <planttt> n8tuser: i was afraid of that, i just felt 90% overhead was a little much
[18:33] <serkan_> e-kolay.net
[18:33] <rmitchell> meophist, you need ndiswrapper, but there are two packages i think: ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils
[18:33] <Meophist> I still don't know how installations or file structures work in *nix systems.
[18:33] <planttt> n8tuser: i'm on my way to buy one of these ethernet-over-power-cable things
[18:34] <Meophist> rmitchell: do you have the Ubuntu CD right now?
[18:34] <gnutron> Jaza: adjust the video settings in the viewer you use maybe.
[18:35] <kiamo> yo
[18:35] <gnutron> Jaza: e.g. brightness, contrast, et cetera.
[18:35] <rmitchell> meophist, i do not. i think i've found a website with the packages on it though, if you can download them from the machine your using irc on, and get them to the machine with no wireless
[18:35] <Meophist> rmitchell: It's the same machine...
[18:35] <IceMax> would anybody like to help me? i just installed a bunch of updates for ubuntu 8.04 64-bit, and now its hanging when i try and boot it. it seems to get stuck loading kernel modules and/or loading manual drivers
[18:35] <rmitchell> meophist, how are you on irc with no wireless?
[18:35]  * Meophist is on Windows right now.
[18:36] <newb101> hi room, would anyone be able to help me getting my sound working within 8.10?
[18:36] <Meophist> Windows drivers work quite well with Windows, even without ndiswrapper.
[18:36] <alexi5> for virtualizting solaris 10 and windows xp (not to put in a production environment) on a Ubuntu 8.10 host is a athlon x2 5400 CPU good enough or have i enetered the realm where a quad core is needed ?
[18:36] <planttt> Meophist: not always
[18:36] <cappiz> i i have a ssh server on a network <IP_ADDRESS> ith IP (NAT internal) i can connect to it externaly. And i want to ssh into it and do a ssh tunnel so i can connect to <IP_ADDRESS> (another machine on the NAT'ed network)
[18:36] <cappiz> im sitting on the outside of the network
[18:36] <cappiz> how would i make the tunnel?
[18:36] <Slart> alexi5: I'd say it depends on what you'll be doing with the "guests"
[18:36] <lorenzo> hi, how can i transfer the phonebook on my cellphone to ubuntu via bluetooth for a backup?
[18:37] <Slart> alexi5: just running the systems on idle won't use much power
[18:37] <basso> in #club-ubuntu
[18:37] <rmitchell> meophist, thats fine too, just download them, and put them on a usb stick or whatnot, copy them to the linux... but it'll be hard to talk you through it if you can't be on irc while you're working on it
[18:37] <Meophist> planttt: Well, I'm talking about right now for me. This driver caused me alot of trouble even in windows, but it's working for me in windows right now.
[18:37] <gnutron> IceMax: the machine was probably busy when you re-booted and now it's confused, try  a safe boot and let it run awhile. linux runs better the longer it runs.
[18:37] <basso> hey thx man!
[18:37] <Meophist> rmitchell: Which is why I want to know everything before I... wait a second.
[18:37] <basso> now i got 3840x1080!
[18:37] <basso> you are awsome!
[18:37] <nb1> alexi: I often run multiple virtualized guest systems and I have an old single-core FX53 cpu, which does fine. the only downside is that I can't virtualize 64-bit guests
[18:37] <Slart> alexi5: you'll be using some memory though..
[18:37]  * Meophist has another computer....
[18:37] <Meophist> just a sec.
[18:38] <Driv3r912> I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed on my machine. I was just wondering where I can obtain the volume monitor program again? I tend to use it when working with audio and some video applications.
[18:38] <Driv3r912> Can I do an apt-get install or do I need to do something else?
[18:38] <rmitchell> meophist: heres the website, http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper
[18:38]  * Meophist Meophist|justasec
[18:38] <nb1> alexi: I have 2GB of ram and a lot of disk space however... I would recommend that at least
[18:38] <Slart> Driv3r912: you mean for pulseuadio? or is it some kind of special volume app?
[18:38] <forcumang> is there a terminal cmd that checks my ram usage?
[18:38] <Slart> forcumang: free
[18:38] <alexi5> Slart:compiling  c programs on both and  test network applications on both with them networked together ?
[18:38] <IceMax> gnutron: it seems to get stuck at the same spot in safe mode, should i jsut let it sit there?
[18:38] <forcumang> k
[18:39] <Slart> forcumang: also, htop has a memory thingy
[18:39] <forcumang> aw lame
[18:39] <Meophist> ok, so rmitchell: What do I download there?
[18:39] <Slart> alexi5: no worries then.. go ahead
[18:39] <alexi5> Slart: i have already decided to get 8GB of ram
[18:39] <forcumang> linux 32bit still does the same as windows 32bit with the ram
[18:39] <forcumang> i guess ill be installing x64 soon
[18:39] <alexi5> ok
[18:39] <forcumang> bleh
[18:39] <gnutron> IceMax: that 'might' work. something might be really borked though
[18:39] <Slart> alexi5: I've run 4 vms on my 4GB machine without any problems
[18:39] <alexi5> ok  i should have no problems then
[18:39] <alexi5> thanks
[18:39] <Driv3r912> It was the volume monitor you can access via the Edit Menus in Ubuntu.
[18:40] <Slart> forcumang: yes.. you can use PAE on the server kernel.. but not on the desktop kernel
[18:40] <Driv3r912> It was titled gvfs-hal-volume-monitor
[18:40] <xscottx3> what would the benefits of x64 ubuntu over x32?
[18:40] <nb1> alexi5: I've run Server 2003+Vista+XP side by side on a 2GB machine with my FX53 cpu :p You'll be ok
[18:40] <forcumang> xscottx3 => for example
[18:40] <Slart> xscottx3: amount of memory, mainly
[18:40] <forcumang> i have 8GB ram
[18:40] <forcumang> but with 32bit
[18:40] <forcumang> i have 3.3
[18:40] <FloodBot3> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:40] <steel_lady> erUSUL are you still here?
[18:40] <Slart> !PAE
[18:40] <rmitchell> meophist: download ndiswrapper-common_1.53-2ubuntu1.deb   and  ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.53-2ubuntu1.deb
[18:40] <Slart> bah
[18:40] <Driv3r912> nbl, x64 would allow to detect more RAM I believe over 2GB.
[18:40] <rmitchell> are you 64 bit or 32 bit?
[18:41] <xscottx3> i know the memory thing, anything besides the increased memory availabilty?
[18:41] <bakarat> k guys, my 1080i monitor is really shaky, i've been lead to believe it could be the refresh rate, how do i alter this?
[18:41] <forcumang> rmitchell => 64, that's why, i need to reinstall
[18:41] <forcumang> but idc for now
[18:41] <forcumang> its thanksgiving
[18:41] <Meophist> I think it's 32 at the moment
[18:41] <forcumang> oh@him
[18:41] <forcumang> afk
[18:41] <IceMax> gnutron: is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without destroying everything on the disk?
[18:41] <rmitchell> meophist: then on the second pacakge, chose the one with everything i said, and then i386 on the end
[18:42] <steel_lady> who can help me fixing audio on skype please?
[18:42] <nb1> Driv3r912: I know I have a 64bit cpu but I use 32bit ubuntu, and I'm doing OK with 2GB :) I know x64 can use memory past 4GB.
[18:42] <forcumang> nb1 => past 3.3gb*
[18:42] <Meophist> rmitchell: Done
[18:43] <forcumang> wtf
[18:43] <rmitchell> meophist: you in ubuntu on the machine?
[18:43] <gnutron> IceMax: not that i know of, i'm afraid. you might try a long wait, or possibly boot with parameters to avoid the bug. i'm not the expert you need.
[18:43] <forcumang> my ubuntu is using 1.2gb of ram?
[18:43] <forcumang> uhh
[18:43] <nb1> forcumang: well I know Windows reserves the upper 1GB or so for I/O mapping, I don't know where the line is in Linux
[18:43] <forcumang> thats not cool lol
[18:43] <Meophist> rmitchell: what?
[18:43] <Driv3r912> nbl: If you have a 64bit cpu, then it would be your best bet to get the 64 bit version of Ubuntu. That way, you have full advantage of your system. There isn't much difference between 32 and 64 bit, except 64 bit supports systems that have 64-bit processors and more memory allocation.
[18:43] <nb1> I'm not the one having a problem though, I was answering to alexi5!
[18:43] <IceMax> ok, i'll try waiting it out
[18:44] <n8tuser> IceMax-> what is the issue?
[18:44] <rmitchell> meophist: you have two machines now, right? boot into ubuntu on the one with no wireless, and copy those two files over there
[18:44] <Slart> forcumang: unused memory is wasted memory
[18:44] <rmitchell> icemax: you can move your /home/ directory to a seperate partition, thus saving most of your data
[18:44] <Slart> forcumang: windows and linux see it differently
[18:44] <Meophist> Yeah, wait just a sec.
[18:44] <nb1> Driv3r912: I am testing Ubuntu 64 on another partition, I just have not yet switched to it entirely
[18:44] <gnutron> IceMax: good luck, i would probably re-install, but i posess no patience :)
[18:44] <IceMax> rmitchell: i just installed a bunch of updates for ubuntu 8.04 64-bit, and now its hanging when i try and boot it. it seems to get stuck loading kernel modules and/or loading manual drivers
[18:44] <steel_lady> please, if ubuntu does not install well my specific sound card and is not offered in hardware drivers, what can I do?
[18:44] <forcumang> Slart => used: 1233224
[18:45] <forcumang> but all i have up is irssi in a term
[18:45] <forcumang> and codeblocks
[18:45] <TokenBad> ok..I installed ubuntu 8.10 and then tried to install the nvidia drivers..everytime I try to install the drivers..and reboot..it errors out with a no resume image doing normal boot
[18:45] <forcumang> lol
[18:45] <FloodBot3> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <rmitchell> icemax: what manual drivers do you have?
[18:45] <Slart> forcumang: Mem:       4054840    4027604      27236, I'm just running irssi and gnome..
[18:45] <Meophist|other> Finally here...
[18:45] <TokenBad> I have tried to do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg with no luck
[18:45] <forcumang> i see.
[18:45] <TokenBad> so if anyone can help would love to get it
[18:45] <Meophist|other> Ok, restarting now.
[18:45] <CarlFK> what is good for video web cam chat?
[18:45] <Slart> forcumang: it uses a lot of the memory for caching and such
[18:46] <nb1> Driv3r912: I was a little annoyed that ZSNES was not packaged for Ubuntu 64 though, then again, the i386 package does not work out of the box either so I suppose its no matter :p
[18:46] <forcumang> ah i see.
[18:46] <Slart> forcumang: it will give the memory back if an application wants it
[18:46] <IceMax> rmitchell: i have no idea
[18:46] <Slart> forcumang: I run my server on 512 MB.. it's barely using 90MB of those.. so it can be lean if it has to
[18:46] <rmitchell> icemax: hannging on boot, reboot, or shutdown?
[18:46] <IceMax> i did try installing the new creative x-fi linux drivers before it started hanging
[18:47] <IceMax> rmitchell: hanging on booting
[18:47] <Driv3r912> nbl: You can run ZSNES in Ubuntu x64. You just need to build it from source.
[18:47] <rmitchell> icemax: when you boot in safe mode, can you see what step its hanging on?
[18:47] <Dillizar> !skype
[18:48] <rmitchell> meophist: you back?
[18:48] <Meophist> I'm here on the other computer
[18:48] <Meophist> The Ubuntu computer just finished booting
[18:48] <nb1> Driv3r912: Yeah, I know, I just have not bothered with it yet. I still boot to 32-bit Ubuntu for most tasks because I already have all the software I use on it
[18:48] <steel_lady> hello! on my old laptop I could call with skype but now I have the sound problem. please help!
[18:48] <IceMax> rmtichell: the last 3 things is says are setting the system clock, loading kernel modules..., and then loading manual drivers
[18:49] <rmitchell> meophist, copy those files to the ubuntu computer, click and install
[18:49] <Driv3r912> nbl: Sounds good. That's the differences between the two versions of Ubuntu however. x64 supports systems with 64-bit processors and memory allocations above 2GB (I think for Ubuntu).
[18:49] <rmitchell> icemax: how long does it hang for, eternity?
[18:50] <nb1> Driv3r912: I read an article with Ubuntu 32 and 64-bit benchmarks, and about the only thing 64-bit did faster was compiling, encoding, etc.... most other tasks/applications ran no faster on it
[18:50] <IceMax> rmtichell: seems like it, longest i let it sit was abotu 5 mins
[18:50] <Meophist> Installed. Next?
[18:51] <Driv3r912> nbl: True. It's the same thing. The kernel will just support the 64-bit processors. It's not going to be any faster or better than the 32-bit. Same thing, different computer equipment support.
[18:51] <rmitchell> meophist, is your .INF file saved on the ubuntu computer?
[18:51] <Meophist> rmitchell: Yes.
[18:51] <TokenBad> does ubuntu support sli video cards?
[18:52] <rmitchell> meophist: sudo ndiswrapper -i /your/driver.inf
[18:52] <Meophist> In Terminal, right?
[18:52] <rmitchell> meophist, maybe use the driver from the disk, in case it needs to pull .sys files too
[18:53] <rmitchell> meophist, yeah, in terminal
[18:53] <sdlwof> sudo won't run, can't resolve hostname....but...need sudo to edit hosts file....
[18:53] <rmitchell> icemax: sounds like a kernal update broke some modules, in the grub menu, can you chose to boot into an older kernal?
[18:54] <maxbaldwin> sdlwof: reboot, and boot into recovery mode and fix it
[18:54] <Meophist> rmitchell: How do I access my cd from terminal?
[18:54] <sdlwof> aw man, the pc is like 3 hrs away!
[18:54] <Dillizar> i have problem with audio on skype on 8.10
[18:54] <IceMax> rmitchell: no, it jsut shows the 1 i had, sicne i removed everything else from hte lsit cept for hte lastest kernal at the time the safe boot mem test and widnwos Xp
[18:54] <TJ> What can I use to view available wireless networks in range ?
[18:54] <atarinox> Has anyone had issues with sound failing on Intrepid after the computer sleeps?
[18:55] <Trooper2008> !it
[18:55] <atarinox> Sometimes I have to reboot to get my sound drivers working
[18:55] <gnutron> neoDite: mount cdrom ; cd /media/cdrom should work.
[18:55] <rmitchell> icemax: i'm not sure what to do to get it to boot, sorry
[18:55] <rmitchell> meophist: how'd that go?
[18:55] <TJ> What can I use to view available wireless networks in range ?
[18:55] <gnutron> Meophist: mount cdrom ; cd /media/cdrom should work.
[18:56] <IceMax> rmitchell: thats ok, know how i can reinstall without wiping everyting?
[18:56] <Meophist> gnutron: Thanks
[18:56] <GiantTalkingCow> This may be a tad offtopic, but can anyone recommend a decent Linux netbook?
[18:56] <rmitchell> gianttalkingcow: macbook
[18:56] <Meophist> "Can't find cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[18:57] <GiantTalkingCow> A Macbook's not quite a netbook... larger, wrong price range, etc.
[18:57] <rmitchell> ^my bad, thought you said notebook
[18:57] <gnutron> Meophist: hrm, try lspci and see if the device is listed. it may be cdrom0
[18:57] <GiantTalkingCow> No worries. Thanks anyhow.
[18:58] <rmitchell> meophist: it didn't recognize the cd drive?
[18:58] <TJ> my computer will not keep my freakin time
[18:58] <ikonia> last curtis
[18:58] <ikonia> oops
[18:58] <Meophist> Wait, I just tried the first part.
[18:58] <Meophist> When I did both it seems to have worked.
[18:58] <Meophist> (same error appeared but whatever)
[18:58] <rmitchell> meophist: did the cd mount?
[18:59] <mgolisch> mount cdrom is wrong isnt it?
[18:59] <mgolisch> it should either be a mountpoint or devicenode
[18:59] <forcumang> can i ask a question
[18:59] <steel_lady> please how can I know if the problem are sound card drivers or the microphone?
[18:59] <mgolisch> so /dev/cdrom or /media/cdrom or something
[18:59] <Meophist> I think I mounted the cd outside of terminal and it was find.
[18:59] <Meophist> fine*
[18:59] <forcumang> when you guys try to get customer service these days, is it really as horrible as i get it?
[19:00] <gnutron> mgolisch: I think ubuntu has a symlink for the cdrom, but you are correct.
[19:00] <Meophist> but now I can't go into its directories.
[19:00] <rmitchell> meophist: in terminal, the cd is most likely '/media/cdrom' or '/media/cdrom0'
[19:00] <rmitchell> meophist: type 'cd /media/'  without quotes
[19:00] <Meophist> no, I mean I'm in the cd right now. The mount failed(probably because it was already mounted) but I got in with the second command
[19:01] <n8tuser> forcumang-> common yes
[19:01] <Meophist> but I can't go into the cd's directories now :(
[19:01] <rmitchell> meophist: then 'ls'
[19:01] <rohan> how do i clean out all the old kernel images and stale kernel related packages? it is taking up a lot of disk space
[19:01] <forcumang> n8tuser => it's so pathetic, heh.
[19:01] <bastid_raZor> rohan; uninstall them through synaptic, they will be removed.
[19:01] <Meophist> I'm trying to go into the folder "V1.01 driver and utility install(PCI&CARDBUS)" but...
[19:01] <rmitchell> meophist: to clarify, the 'cd' in that command was 'change directory' not compact disc
[19:01] <rohan> bastid_raZor: i can't find the correct one to remove
[19:01] <gnutron> rohan: use synaptic and search for the image, it will remove them safely and update grub.
[19:01] <forcumang> i call for a taxi, and the guy asks where i live then hangs up the phone
[19:02] <forcumang> some arabian guy
[19:02] <Meophist> rmitchell: Yeah, the same as DOS.
[19:02] <forcumang> how the fuck am i suppose to know if someones coming or not
[19:02] <forcumang> and no apt number?
[19:02] <sdlwof> rohan, sudo rm -Rv /usr/
[19:02] <forcumang> didnt even ask for a phone #..
[19:02] <forcumang> nothing
[19:02] <FloodBot3> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <tsabi> üdv
[19:02] <rohan> sdlwof: funny, isn't it?
[19:02] <forcumang> yeah okay FloodBot3, as if I am.
[19:02] <sdlwof> hey, i've mixed rm with mv....
[19:02] <hypa7ia> forcumang: call them back?
[19:02] <tsabi> van aki magyar?
[19:02] <hypa7ia> seems like an easy solution :)
[19:02] <Slart> !ot
[19:02] <forcumang> hypa7ia => done, four times
[19:02] <rmitchell> meophist: what was the output of ls?
[19:02] <Slart> !mg
[19:02] <Meophist> There's a syntax error and I can't go into the folder.
[19:03] <gnutron> rohan: do not do the rm -rf stuff.
[19:03] <Slart> !hungary
[19:03] <rohan> gnutron, bastid_raZor : also, when are new packages installed, versus kernel packages being upgraded?
[19:03] <forcumang> this is the yellow cab co. too...
[19:03] <forcumang> so pathetic that they have people working like that these days
[19:03] <rohan> gnutron: yes thanks, it's sdlwof who is the n00b here, by trying to bait people
[19:03] <n8tuser> forcumang-> which city are you at?
[19:03] <forcumang> oakland, ca
[19:03] <rmitchell> meophist: open the file manager, and go to the /media/ folder
[19:03] <sdlwof> naw man, i've mad the mistake myself....
[19:03] <Slart> forcumang: try telling the people in #ubuntu-offtopic.. they are less likey to kick you
[19:03] <n8tuser> forcumang-> the death capital of the west..lol
[19:03] <gnutron> rohan: i dunno, it happens.
[19:03] <forcumang> :P
[19:03] <forcumang> meh
[19:04] <gnutron> rohan: not sure what you mean
[19:04] <forcumang> if someone wants to kick/ban me for saying a few off-topic works
[19:04] <n8tuser> forcumang-> take bart or ac transit
[19:04] <forcumang> they are welcome too. :/
[19:04] <rohan> sdlwof: no, because mv -Rv /usr/ would give a syntax error
[19:04] <bastid_raZor> rohan; when you do an update you should pay attention to what packages are being updated. that is how you know.
[19:04] <Meophist> output of ls is the directory of the cd, autoruns, docs and folders where the drivers are
[19:04] <atarinox> Has anybody had any luck installing Windows for dual boot on a box that already has Ubuntu installed?
[19:04] <Meophist> File manager?
[19:04] <rohan> bastid_raZor: that seems to much to take care of, why can't the package manager do it for itself
[19:04] <Slart> atarinox: yes
[19:04] <hypa7ia> atarinox: it's reasonably easy to do, you'll just need to reinstall grub afterwards
[19:04] <sdlwof> naw, i was doing alot of rm stuff, and when i want to do mv, i typed rm /filename
[19:04] <forcumang> n8tuser => i am now :P
[19:04] <sdlwof> without options
[19:04] <Slart> atarinox: you have to restore the mbr after you're done.. but that's about it
[19:04] <Meophist> Is File manager the Windows Explorer?
[19:05] <rohan> bastid_raZor: i am basically confused with 2.6.24-22 and 2.6.24-22.12 what causes an upgrade in-place and what installs a new package
[19:05] <bastid_raZor> rohan; it is wise to have at least one other kernel to boot in to.
[19:05] <rmitchell> meophist: in windows, yes, in gnome, its called nautilus
[19:05] <rmitchell> meophist: same concept
[19:05] <Trooper2008> hello is there anyone expert here with firestarter preferences ?
[19:05] <rohan> bastid_raZor: but a kernel + related packages take up 200mb of disk space!
[19:05] <Meophist> Ok, I'm in media
[19:05] <Trooper2008> i need someone to help me with firestarter
[19:06] <rmitchell> meophist, what folders are in there?
[19:06] <gnuskool> Trooper2008: say the problem
[19:06] <Slart> Trooper2008: just ask your question.. on one line.. if someone knows they will answer
[19:06] <iEngage> s
[19:06] <Meophist> cdrom cdrom0 disk New Volume
[19:06] <bastid_raZor> rohan; in synaptic, you can determine the difference between the kernels?
[19:06] <Meophist> 4 folders
[19:06] <rmitchell> meophist: open the cd ones and see which one is your driver cd
[19:06] <Meophist> cdrom is it
[19:06] <rohan> bastid_raZor: no, there so so so many linux-image packages that it confuses me
[19:06] <Trooper2008> ok gnuskool thanx
[19:07] <Meophist> (both work actually)
[19:07] <gnutron> rohan: new packages are installed only when you request them or if an update requires them.
[19:07] <sdlwof> muaha, another wi-jacked!
[19:07] <rmitchell> meophist then in terminal, your command is "sudo ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom/path/to/driver.inf
[19:07] <rmitchell> meophist, without the opening quote
[19:08] <Meophist> the problem is the that path includes a folder called "V1.01 driver and utility install(PCI&CARDBUS)"
[19:08] <bastid_raZor> rohan; linux-image-2.6.24-21 should be the one you're using (if you're still using 8.04) click complete removal of the ones you don't want. it will remove the associated packages.
[19:08] <rohan> bastid_raZor: ok, thanks. yes i am still using 8.04
[19:08] <bigmb> How can I install the C and c++ libraries, been a while since I last had to
[19:08] <rohan> bigmb: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[19:09] <rmitchell> meophist: put backslashes (\) on the word before the space, like: V1.01\ driver\ and\ utility\ install(etc)
[19:09] <gnutron> rohan: you're no beginner :)
[19:09] <Trooper2008> well there are 4 options i don't understar 1 under events skip redunat entry that is enabled by defualt what to do 2 under advanced options if block brodcasts from external and internal networks 3 if block traffic from reserved adresses on pubblic interference gnuskool you know ?
[19:09] <sandy_> can any on tell me how to connect to wifi from terminal with WPA
[19:09] <Trooper2008> this is firestarter preferences i need to understand better gnuskool
[19:09] <n8tuser> sandy_-> try  dhclient wlan0
[19:09] <lavacano201014> You know that Ubuntu logo next to the applications menu? What do I do if I want to use something else?
[19:09] <basso> Ey! you guys know when you open a new window, it opens at the center of the screen?.. can i choose where it will pop up?
[19:10] <rohan> gnutron: hehe :)
[19:10] <bigmb> rohan: does this also install what I need for ruby?
[19:10] <rohan> bigmb: no, sudo aptitude install ruby
[19:10] <Meophist> rmitchell: "syntax error near unexpected token '('"
[19:10] <rohan> bigmb: and irb, if you need it
[19:10] <bigmb> rohan: thanks, you rock :)
[19:10] <Meophist> rmitchell: "syntax error near unexpected token `('"
[19:10] <Trooper2008> are you able to solve my quest gnuskool?
[19:10] <rohan> bigmb: you're welcome
[19:10] <rmitchell> meophist: give me the full path to your driver
[19:10] <Meophist> It was the second one.
[19:11] <bakarat> damn, i can't get the 1080i to work :( i tried a crapload of modelines i found online, at 50 hz it was shaking like crazy, at 53, it was much more stable, and at 59 hz quite unstable again... :|
[19:11] <gnuskool> Trooper2008: nah, mate sorry, but someone in the channel might be able to help
[19:11] <lavacano201014> Meophist-\ There's a ( that shouldn't be there, it seems
[19:11] <bakarat> how can i fix this? :(
[19:11] <Meophist> media/cdrom/V1.01 driver and utility install(PCI&CARDBUs)/Inf/WinXP_2K/netmw125.inf
[19:11] <Trooper2008> who is expert with firestarter here ?
[19:12] <Meophist> The s in PCI&CARDBUS is capital*
[19:12] <sandy_> n8tuser, i need to write a shell program which auto connect to wifi in my Home (security WPA_) and office (security wep: HEX) i need to know how to connect to wifi with different security modes
[19:12] <Trooper2008> gnuskool:  you know if weechat is a gui program?
[19:12] <rmitchell> meophist: heres your command:    sudo ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom/V1.01\ driver\ and
[19:12] <Meophist> That's without the backslash escapes
[19:12] <rmitchell> wait... returned too soon...
[19:12] <rohan> why not just use tab completion?
[19:12] <bastid_raZor> rohan; the -16 kernel just shows 15.8MB of space taken up for me.
[19:13] <rohan> bastid_raZor: right, but there are corresponding modules packages
[19:13] <sandy_>  i need to write a shell program which auto connect to wifi in my Home (security WPA_) and office (security wep: HEX) i need to know how to connect to wifi with different security modes
[19:13] <rohan> bastid_raZor: e.g. i am doing a upgrade right now, and -- Need to get 52.0MB of archives. After unpacking 196MB will be used.
[19:13] <tim234> hey, is it possible to have sound through OSS in 2 applications @ same time?
[19:14] <rmitchell> meophist: heres your command:    sudo ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom/V1.01\ driver\ and\ utility\ install(PCI&CARDBUS)/Inf/WinXP_2K/netmw125.inf
[19:14] <bastid_raZor> rohan; right, the fun of upgrading. you're going to 8.10?
[19:14] <gnuskool> Trooper2008: nah, i dont think so, it may have a gui frontend. what u using now?
[19:14] <PriceChild> sandy_: 'different security modes'? Why can't you just use the standard network manager?
[19:14] <rohan> bastid_raZor: nope, i am sticking to 8.04 because of kde3
[19:14] <Meophist> rmitchell: That's exactly what I tried, but I don't think Terminal likes brackets in folder names.
[19:15] <sandy_> PriceChild, i cant do that because many system are connect to it some
[19:15] <n8tuser> sandy_-> you have to do a little more thinking, how you know which AP is accessable,
[19:15] <bastid_raZor> rohan; kde4 is lacking, i still use kde3 apps almost as much as native gnome
[19:15] <rmitchell> meophist: you could copy the entire directory to your hard drive and go from there
[19:16] <rohan> bastid_raZor: yes, it's lacking. because kde is my main DE, i am sticking to 8.04
[19:16] <gnuskool> Trooper2008: actually, looking on their website the gui is still coming, so no, its not a gui prog, xchat might be worthh a look, if a gui is what you want
[19:16] <Meophist> rmitchell: Yeah, I'll try that.
[19:16] <rmitchell> meophist, i have to go, after you do that, and run the ndiswrapper command, run ndiswrapper -l to see if it applied it
[19:17] <Trooper2008> thanx gnuskool  2 question the best free vpn to mask ip for linux is as tor sucks on chat get's blacklisted too much
[19:17] <lavacano201014> You know that Ubuntu logo next to the applications menu? What do I do if I want to use something else?
[19:17] <sandy_> n8tuser, if i am at home it should auto connect to wifi because ssid will be different
[19:17]  * Meophist thinks it worked.
[19:18] <n8tuser> sandy_-> how will you detect such?
[19:18] <lolaulz> HI ^____^;;;
[19:18] <sandy_> n8tuser, iwconfig wlan0 essid "xxxx"  key "xxx"
[19:18] <sandy_> n8tuser, by scannig
[19:18] <Dreamglider> i cleaned and installed ubuntu on a laptop of a friend a couple of days ago, now just a few minutes ago he asked me why the app, places and system dropdown menus on the top bar wont 'drop down', it seems that after he leaves fullscreen when watching movies the menus stop working, he has 8.10 fully uptodate on a dell inspiron 6000.
[19:19] <TheCollect> Hey everybody
[19:19] <gnuskool> Trooper2008: dont know about that , soz
[19:19] <n8tuser> sandy_-> then put that in your script a function to scan and a function to connect dependent on scan results
[19:19] <TheCollect> I have a quick question
[19:19] <Trooper2008> does anyone know any good free vpn service to mask ip for linux as tor dosen't work well on irc as it get's blacklisted too much on servers?
[19:19] <Trooper2008> np gnuskool
[19:19] <Flannel> Trooper2008: What are you trying to accomplish?  Why do you need one?
[19:20] <l337h4l> Does anyone know if conky has an IRC server?  Or is anyone good with using grep to ignore characters pulled from a text file
[19:20] <bastid_raZor> l337h4l; #conky
[19:20] <Trooper2008> i just do
[19:20] <Trooper2008> you able to help Flannel?
[19:20] <TheCollective> Is there a version of ubuntu (or any other linux) that would run faster on an IBM laptop with a Pentium 4 processor and 512 megs of ram?  8.10 is running like Molasses  -_-
[19:20] <yowshi4> how do i stop the icon in my top panel from moving around every bloody reboot
[19:21] <kitche> TheCollective install xubuntu 8.10
[19:21] <Flannel> Trooper2008: If you'd tell us why, we may be able to help you, yes.
[19:21] <MilkFloat> thecollective: Try xubuntu
[19:21] <TheCollective> xubuntu?  Nice  :)
[19:21] <TheCollective> Is that on the ubuntu website too?
[19:21] <gnutron> yowshi4: right click the icon and lock position may work.
[19:21] <TheCollective> meh I'll just google it lol
[19:21] <thiebaude> TheCollective: fluxbox
[19:21] <sandy_> n8tuser, i need to know how to give WPA
[19:21] <sandy_> n8tuser, can you help me
[19:21] <forcumang> TheCollective => google
[19:21] <n8tuser> sandy_-> its on the interfaces file
[19:22] <yowshi4> gnutron: no they were locked by default i unlocked them because they kept moving around when i rebooted and i had to put them back manually
[19:22] <MilkFloat> thecollective: aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[19:22] <Dreamglider> TheCollective: xubuntu.org
[19:22] <Dreamglider> :))
[19:22] <l337h4l> thanks bastid_raZor
[19:22] <Trooper2008> becouse i like to not go on web with my ip Flannel ok?
[19:22] <Trooper2008> expecialy on irc
[19:22] <Trooper2008> any socks proxy or better if free vpn would be loved
[19:22] <bastid_raZor> l337h4l; they tend to take ages to answer, when they do though. they are very informative.
[19:22] <TokenBad> ok..someone help please..installed 8.10..before doing anything else I install the nvidia drivers though the driver program.  reboot and get msg no resume image doing normal boot.  here is my xorg log:  http://pastebin.com/f5791081e
[19:22] <Trooper2008> as tor sucks on irc for it's too much banning of ip's Flannel
[19:23] <Trooper2008> and don't worry im not a lamer :)
[19:23] <Flannel> !cloak | Trooper2008
[19:23] <l337h4l> bastid_raZor,  well Ill idle for a bit but Ill be going out for the holiday
[19:23] <Flannel> Trooper2008: and actually, I know for a fact that you are a trouble maker.  So, don't try and use that for ban evasion, since ban evasion isn't cool.
[19:23] <gnuskool> Dreamglider: typing in gnome-panel in reminal brings it back...
[19:23] <gnutron> yowshi4: you could try add to panel option, add it again, remove the other one and hope it will stick
[19:23] <Miesco> Theres a kernel update and an update on the restricted modules...  I had to install backports-restricted-modules because my computer kept freezing, did they fix this issue in this update?
[19:24] <Trooper2008> Flannel:  how can you know me if it's one of the first times i come here ?
[19:24] <Trooper2008> and i have no bans?
[19:24] <sandy_> n8tuser, i know how to connect to wifi ( iwconfig wlan0 essid "xxxxx" key ) , here i need to know how to give WPA key what are the prefix for the key etc
[19:24] <Trooper2008> maby you got wrong person
[19:24] <mneptok> Trooper2008: that wouldn't happen with a Freenode cloak
[19:24] <Dreamglider> gnuskool: they all stop responding, so i cannt open a terminal windoow
[19:24] <Dreamglider> window
[19:24] <n8tuser> sandy_-> that will not even connect you, iwconfig is not to connect..its to configure
[19:24] <yowshi4> gnutron: i j have like 2 dozen icons up there several of them custom made
[19:25] <emilien> need help new bought keyboard not detected
[19:25] <yowshi4> gnutron: and they didnt stick whne i firtsmade them i would rather have asolution other thren hgoping
[19:25] <Trooper2008> i see mneptok
[19:25] <Trooper2008> btw flannel you got wrong person
[19:25] <Trooper2008> it's not nice to accuse people when you don't know em
[19:25] <gnuskool> Dreamglider: even pressing alt+f2 dosent bring up the run command?
[19:26] <mneptok> Trooper2008: if you don't want to be mistaken for other people, don't use their IPs.
[19:26] <Flannel> Trooper2008: This is offtopic.  Please stop.  Just follow the code of conduct and the IRC guidelines, and you'll be fine.
[19:26] <emilien> need help new usb keyboard not detected
[19:26] <Trooper2008> well i never mneptok ok
[19:26] <Meophist> Is there a device manager for ubuntu?
[19:27] <gnutron> yowshi4: I have no answer for that, ubuntu just needs to tweak itself or just keep trying.
[19:27] <yowshi4> gnutron: tweak itself?
[19:27] <gnutron> yowshi4: i've had the same problem, and eventually it behaves.
[19:27] <Dreamglider> gnuskool: it does not respond
[19:27] <truthslave> looking for a good streaming tv player....i already run vlc and miro
[19:28] <Ubunoob> I just downloaded Ubuntu 8.10, burned it to a CD using Disk Utility, and booted from the CD by holding C. I got the menu to choose to install Ubuntu, Check the CD for defects, run the live CD, etc. but when I choose to run the live CD, after loading for what seems like a few minutes, the screen goes black after the loading bar is complete, and remains that way for well over half an hour. I tried 4 times unsuccessfully to boot up
[19:28] <yowshi4> gnutron: yeah but not when the icons are in the order i want them
[19:28] <gnutron> yowshi4: well, tweak itself with your help...
[19:28] <Dreamglider> gnuskool: the menus do highlight but they dont drop down
[19:28] <_LoneCrow> anyone run awstats?  I've set it up with the PL and the config etc,  but how do you actually view it in a web browser?
[19:28] <getxsick> http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=448779#p448779 -- anyone can help me? :)
[19:29] <lavacano201014> Ubunoob-\ Have you done the Check for Defects option yet?
[19:29] <truthslave> any good tv players?
[19:29] <gnutron> yowshi4: they should stay put, ubuntu isn't perfect i dunno
[19:29] <Ubunoob> Yes i have and it says the CD is OK
[19:29] <XB23> hey guys
[19:29] <XB23> Virtual memory 1.43 GB total, 1.43 GB used
[19:30] <XB23> is that bad?
[19:30] <Meophist> Ubunoob: I've had something similar happen to me. Going into the modes and selecting, I think the second option worked for me.
[19:30] <ikonia> XB23: not at all
[19:30] <Meophist> It had something to do with graphics.
[19:30] <XB23> what problems can it cause ikonia?
[19:30] <Ubunoob> I'm on an intel imac
[19:31] <Meophist> I mean, from the main menu of the boot CD.
[19:31] <meyou_> what's a quick way to 'collapse' a directory? i have a folder that contains tons of folders, and i want to move all the files from subfolders into the parent dir
[19:31] <Meophist> I think it was F4 for something.
[19:31] <gnuskool> Dreamglider: that sounds very strange, maybe someone else here can help
[19:31] <_cb> In windows  I can type ALt  + numeric asc code to get letters line the n with the tilda. Anything along those lines for ubuntu?
[19:32] <Ubunoob> oh, what do i do after trying F4 to access one of the other settings?
[19:32] <TuniX12> where can i find ubuntu bot channel?
[19:32] <forcumang> ubuntu bot?
[19:32] <Meophist> There was something for alternate graphics something. I'm still a noob for ubuntu too so...
[19:32] <ikonia> XB23: none
[19:32] <ikonia> XB23: it's fine
[19:32] <Ubunoob> oh i see haha, well thanks for that help, i shall give it a try
[19:32] <Dreamglider> gnuskool: it is strange indeed, the volume controll works, and the clock/calender allso
[19:32] <Meophist> After selecting it, the CD booted up normally for me.
[19:33] <Ubunoob> to u remember what exactly i should be selecting? =p
[19:33] <TuniX12> forcumang: yes for factoid commands
[19:33] <ikonia> !away > Katie-Offline
[19:33] <Meophist> Does anybody know of a device manager for ubuntu?
[19:33] <TuniX12> !commands
[19:33] <Meophist> Ubunoob: I think it was the second option under "Modes", but I'm not %100 sure.
[19:33] <TuniX12> !bot
[19:34] <Ubunoob> ok, i'll restart and give it a try. wish me luck!
[19:34] <Trooper2008> i get now why i recived the ubuntu comunity rules from you Flannel
[19:34] <maxbaldwin> TuniX12: #ubuntu-bots
[19:34] <Trooper2008> now :)
[19:34]  * DIL say why
[19:34] <Meophist> Anybody?
[19:35] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | Meophist
[19:35] <_cb> Ok found it. Pressing Ctrl + shift + u, typing hex code and then releasing. Wish they had easier keys. CTRl SHIFT and U are not close together ;(
[19:35] <meyou_> DIFH-iceroot: doesn't really apply. he already asked his question :p
[19:36] <Meophist> huh?
[19:36] <meyou_> what's a quick way to 'collapse' a directory? i have a folder that contains tons of folders, and i want to move all the files from subfolders into the parent dir
[19:36] <raul_> Hello there, anyone using ubuntu studio?
[19:36] <akorpija> Does openoffice.org have it's own irc server
[19:36] <akorpija> or can anybody help me insert page numbers because i think my openoffice is glitching in some ridiculous way
[19:36] <DIFH-iceroot> meyou_: i am using a small display so i dont scroll als the lines up to search his question
[19:37] <meyou_> ah
[19:37] <meyou_> well you know how to collapse a dir like a was asking above?
[19:37] <Meophist> I'm wondering if there's a device manager-like program in Ubuntu.
[19:37] <meyou_> i'm thinking i could do it with some kinda mv `find blah` command
[19:37] <ikonia> Meophist: devices aren't delt with in the same way as window so there is no need for a device manager
[19:38] <Meophist> So there's no way of checking if my driver is doing anything?
[19:38] <DIL> Meophist: there is you may have to install it
[19:38] <ikonia> Meophist: you don't need to, as I said it works different
[19:38] <maxxik_dude> what are you talking about guys?
[19:39] <Meophist> I installed a driver and want to know if it's doing anything.
[19:39] <conal> newbie question: is there a command-line way to move files & directories to the gnome trash?
[19:39] <conal> convert like 'rm', but safer.
[19:39] <conal> i mean convenient like rm but safer.
[19:39] <aycko> hi
[19:39] <Slart> conal: there's a package called trash-cli.. not sure if it has something to do that
[19:39] <erUSUL> conal: gvfs-rm
[19:39] <conal> (emacs abbrev typo)
[19:39] <ikonia> Meophist: what driver did you instal ?
[19:40] <ikonia> install even
[19:40] <conal> thanks!
[19:40] <loquitus_of_bor1> Hi.  How can I backup an entire Linux server from the command line, so that I could potentially restore that backup onto another system in case the original goes up in smoke? I am talking about everything including the OS, and not just the data... I might want to even be able to stick this backup into a VM that I could boot with virtual box or vmware. Is there a way to do this?
[19:40] <Meophist> one for my wireless card.
[19:40] <ikonia> Meophist: what wireless card ?
[19:40] <aycko> is there some site which analyses different password/serial storage software?
[19:40]  * conal loves ubuntu!
[19:40] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: you can use tar or dd depending on your needs and setup and target system
[19:41] <Meophist> A Cyber Station wireless PCI adapter
[19:41] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: it is however not wise to do it on a running system, better to boot from a livecd and do it while the disk is not in use
[19:41] <meyou_> what's a quick way to 'collapse' a directory? i have a folder that contains tons of folders, and i want to move all the files from subfolders into the parent dir
[19:41] <loquitus_of_bor1> ikonia: can you elaborate?
[19:41] <Meophist> NW-5411
[19:41] <aycko> i need something that lets me lookup passwords from different places and different os
[19:41] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas why the config editor resets with every restart
[19:41] <loquitus_of_bor1> ikonia: I do not have physical access to this machine.
[19:41] <ikonia> meyou_: depends on what file manager your using
[19:41] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: then I wouldn't advise it to be used as a potential image restore ?
[19:41] <meyou_> ikonia: i can use whichever you suggest :p
[19:41] <meyou_> i was thinking from commandline, but gui is fine
[19:41] <aycko> at home/work on linux/windows. and it should have a moderate safety
[19:42] <ikonia> meyou_: well if you using a command line what are you talking about collapsing a tree ??
[19:42] <meyou_> i want to move the files
[19:42] <meyou_> from subfolders
[19:42] <meyou_> to parent folder
[19:42] <loquitus_of_bor1> ikonia: is the risk here at all to the original machine? as in, is doing this in anyway a risk to the integrity of the source, are is it simply a matter that the copy I am creating might not be very reliable?
[19:42] <meyou_> not collapsing the visual representation
[19:42] <karbo_> Hi, I need help bad :-/ I managed to hibernate my computer instead of rebooting it, it failed, I did a hard restart and now grub is telling me error 17: cannot mount selected partition when I try to start up again. Any chance of saving me?
[19:42] <ikonia> meyou_: just use the "mv" command
[19:42] <bastid_raZor> meyou_; mv file ../
[19:42] <meyou_> and how to make it move them all?
[19:42] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: more a risk that the backup will be worthless
[19:43] <ikonia> meyou_: mv $directory $new-palce
[19:43] <ikonia> place
[19:43] <meyou_> so i'm sitting in a folder, with 1000 subfolders, all of which contain 1 file, and i want to move all files to one folder
[19:43] <oliver_g_> hello
[19:43] <meyou_> mv -R *filemaskhere* .
[19:43] <meyou_> ?
[19:43] <loquitus_of_bor1> ikonia: is this because the drive being copied is being modified at the same time?
[19:43] <aycko> karbo: first of all you need a grub cd
[19:44] <oliver_g_> I've got some questions about booting Ubuntu from USB...
[19:44] <aycko> karbo: just google for it. its always good to have one. its an img you burn on a cd
[19:44] <GodfatherofEire1> Well, the configuration manager seems to reset, but it doesnt actually reset, so the key bindings are still set up
[19:44] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: thats part of the reason yes
[19:44] <oliver_g_> first, is it possible to use an external hard disk as well (instead of USB stick)?
[19:44] <aycko> karbo: then you need to reinstall grub ;)
[19:45] <Meophist> ...
[19:45] <karbo_> aycko: thanks, I will try that
[19:46] <aycko> karbo: you can try this instead http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[19:46] <Meophist> So... uh... how would I figure out if my drivers are working or not?
[19:46] <aycko> the second post should work
[19:47] <sigma`> Hello
[19:47] <sigma`> somebody already use Vsftpd?
[19:47] <phantomcircuit> WHY DOES INDIA SUCK SO MUCH COCK?
[19:48] <The_Blade> !help
[19:48] <GodfatherofEire1> Could I get some help with the config editor?
[19:48]  * DIL dont let me catch you in my 7-11
[19:48] <forcumang> sigma` => i have.
[19:48] <ikonia> DIL: stop with the /me commands
[19:49] <Meophist> ...
[19:49] <sigma`> forcumang, ok good. I've one problem with virtual user
[19:49] <bastid_raZor> !netsplit
[19:49] <forcumang> sigma` => i've experienced vsftpd with local users, haven't done virtual
[19:49] <forcumang> sorry.
[19:50] <DIL> ikonia: priorites sb people phantomcircuit no?
[19:50] <sigma`> mmmh
[19:50] <sigma`> how do you do with local users?
[19:50] <ikonia> DIL: what ?
[19:50] <private_meta> wow... being disturbed because of one /me-command XD
[19:50] <sigma`> you use session password and login?
[19:50] <forcumang> sigma` => yes
[19:50] <karbo_> aycko: my grub menu.lst lists "root (hd1,0)" for my ubuntu disk, which I think is correct as I have winxp installed on the first disk and ubuntu on the second, will the first step using the "grub" command help any, or should I just jump straight to the partitioner guide in that second post?
[19:50] <phantomcircuit> DIL, misuse of amsg
[19:50] <The_Blade> !ufw
[19:50] <forcumang> sigma` => local_enabled = YES
[19:51] <DIL> ikonia, phantomcircuit your language sir
[19:51] <ikonia> DIL: me language ?
[19:51] <forcumang> or it might be local_enable
[19:51] <forcumang> then set local_root = /root/to/ftp
[19:51] <sigma`> yes but when i try to connect to the ftp with <IP_ADDRESS> on the defaut port with my root login/pass
[19:51] <GodfatherofEire1> Does anybody have any clue as to why the config editor says it resets, when it actually doesnt
[19:51] <private_meta> Is there a program or script that automatically bans IPs for a certain time from connecting to your machine if it had a certain number of failed tries?
[19:51] <sigma`> it doesn't run
[19:51] <DIL> ikonia, never mind your focused i understand
[19:51] <paul68> rdw200169: are you here my friend?
[19:52] <bastid_raZor> DIL; you're
[19:52] <DIL> yes
[19:52] <karbo_> aycko: did you get that, or were you dc'ed as well? =)
[19:52] <sigma`> forcumang, what is the difference between local user and virtual user?
[19:52] <sigma`> if i can forget virtual user, i will do it :)
[19:53] <forcumang> local user is based off your local users
[19:53] <forcumang> and virtual users are virtualized
[19:53] <forcumang> :p
[19:53] <bimberi> !info denyhosts | private_meta
[19:53] <Skyfury> !apparmor
[19:54] <justizin> i'm having trouble pairing my bluetooth mouse with bluez, it timed out while i was looking up the password, and now it won't try to pair again.  how can i make it forget? is there a file i can delete or something i can purge from gconf?
[19:54] <gnuskool> can a separate instance of mysql be installed such as bitnami or wamp etc??
[19:54] <sigma`> ok forcumang ty ;)
[19:54] <gnuskool> alongside a normal install, that is?
[19:54] <private_meta> wow... i hate all those disconnects
[19:54] <forcumang> sigma` => np
[19:54] <private_meta> thanks bimberi
[19:54] <alec868> i need to give a file execute pwermissions. the files on my desktop, i have the command i just dont know how to use it. help?
[19:55] <Meophist> mleeeeyok... :(
[19:55] <Neaai> alec868: chmod u+x filename     This will make the file exectutable for owner.
[19:56] <tim> hi, i addet wine hq repos and updated to a new version, is there a way i can reconfigure that package?
[19:56] <tim> soe that it uses default config files?
[19:56] <huiBuh> alec868, right click on it. And edit the rights ( 3rd tab )
[19:56] <oliver_g_> private_meta: maybe have a look at fail2ban
[19:57] <private_meta> oliver_g_: thanks, I'll do it in case denyhosts fails to do the trick
[19:57] <justizin> tim dpkg --reconfigure, apt-get install --reinstall are both options.
[19:59] <tim> so sudo apt-get install --reinstall package and sudo dpkg --reconfigure package?
[20:00] <ik0> #prologin
[20:00] <bimberi> tim: For wine - removing the .wine directory in your home directory will essentially reset it.  Be sure that you don't want anything in it though - just rename it if you're not sure.
[20:00] <tim> ya ok
[20:01] <tim> but i would then have to copy over the new config files
[20:01] <tim> cuz i got plenty games in the .wine dir
[20:01] <alec868> huiBuh: then how do i run the script?
[20:02] <huiBuh> alec868, after that -- doubleclick ?
[20:02] <vkrolow> hi, I'm trying put the ubuntu to work with dualhead extended with a nvidia, how it's possible do this?
[20:02] <glow> easy..
[20:02] <bimberi> tim: ah ok, then that method won't work.  There's also the 'winecfg' command
[20:03] <alec868> huiBuh: it asks if i want to open in archive manager
[20:03] <tim> ya i used apt-get install --reinstall
[20:03] <tim> but lemme state my main problem: iam listening through music with audacious and wanna play world of warcraft through wine
[20:03] <vkrolow> hi, I'm trying put the ubuntu to work with dualhead extended with a nvidia, how it's possible do this?
[20:03] <tim> in wine, ALSA gives no sound
[20:04] <huiBuh> alec868, that suggests, it's not an executeable thingy. Try open it with the archive manager.
[20:04] <glow> did ya configure it?
[20:04] <glow> @tim
[20:04] <tim> when turning wine to OSS, it reverses the audia adater so i cannt listen to the music playing through audacious
[20:04] <VistaUser> HEY
[20:04] <tim> the only way to get non stuttering sound in wine is to set to OSS
[20:04] <glow> are ya using gnome or KDE?
[20:04] <tim> gnome
[20:04] <glow> whats the errormessage with also?
[20:05] <tim> oh i didnt start from console yet, second
[20:05] <alec868> huiBuh: yeah, i think its supposed to be. the tutorial online said to do it in terminal, but i dont know how
[20:07] <tim> there is no real output regarding alsa
[20:07] <tim> should i mention that i connect my device through a didital cable?
[20:07] <alec868> huiBuh: i have the file open, should the readme tell me how to run it?
[20:07] <LoveGuru> *Happy Thanksgiving to awl*
[20:08] <BSG75> after installing 8.10 my laptop randomly freezes up.  My capslock light blinks and I have to hard boot .. any ideas?
[20:08] <huiBuh> alec868, yes - it SHOULD.
[20:08] <n8tuser> BSG75-> you have the wifi active?
[20:08] <BSG75> yup
[20:09] <alec868> huiBuh: if i cut and paste, can you tell me what you think im supposed to do?
[20:09] <n8tuser> BSG75-> many AP in your hood?
[20:09] <huiBuh> alec868, give me a link to the "programm" instead - that does not flood the irc :)
[20:09] <BSG75> n8tuser: AP as in?
[20:09] <n8tuser> BSG75-> accesspoint
[20:10] <alec868> huiBuh: ok, this is the link to the tutorial.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870663&highlight=eee+pc+overclocking
[20:10] <BSG75> n8tuser: I just logon to my wireless router ..
[20:11] <n8tuser> BSG75-> any particular AP or whatever is available you connect?
[20:11] <BSG75> n8tuser: it's just using WPA2 personal
[20:12] <MHz128> how do I verify a file using an SHA1SUM?
[20:12] <n8tuser> BSG75-> i dont know then..
[20:12] <BSG75> n8tuser: me either
[20:12] <BSG75> 8.04 worked flawlessly.. the beta of 8.10 had problem with my wireless device
[20:12] <n8tuser> MHz128-> man sha1sum
[20:13] <BSG75> and my laptop has  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[20:13] <BSG75> one of the most common wireless nics
[20:14] <VistaUser> hello
[20:14] <VistaUser> what games run on KDE4?
[20:14] <BSG75> LOL
[20:14] <harlekin> only a test
[20:14] <BSG75> sorry...
[20:14] <huiBuh> alec868, after reading the forum i think you only have trouble with 2. ?
[20:15] <huiBuh> alec868, do you know where the programm "terminal" is ?
[20:15] <alec868> yes
[20:15] <grobda24> MHz128, either provide file and sum on the command line to the program sha1 or it can auto compare file with file containing the sum.
[20:15] <huiBuh> alec868, the phrase "navigate to the downloaded file" is in your case :
[20:15] <huiBuh> enter "cd Desktop" + hit enter
[20:16] <garyb> hello
[20:16] <huiBuh> ( in the "terminal"
[20:16] <huiBuh> )
[20:16] <huiBuh> than copy+paste the code from the "Code" section.
[20:16] <alec868> huiBuh: i have tried this, i get, no such file or directory
[20:16] <alec868> huiBuh: oh i had desktop not Desktop
[20:16] <alec868> there now
[20:17] <DeviN_> Can someone look at this pastebin and tell me whats going on. i never encountered this problem before and im alil lost! http://pastebin.com/m158cc925
[20:17] <bigmb> Is there an IRC I can go for help with sockets programming in C/C++?
[20:17] <huiBuh> alec868,  the files ( and directories ) under linux are case-sensitive :)
[20:18] <grobda24> DeviN_, did you disconnect / move a disk ?
[20:19] <huiBuh> alec868, in Terminal you can enter "cd D" and than hit the tab-key - it will show/complete all possible directories starting with D.
[20:19] <huiBuh> if nothing shows up - check your shiftKey ;)
[20:20] <alec868> huiBuh: ls brings up the files on desktop.
[20:20] <DeviN_> grobda24, well earlier yesterday my windows drive needed formated then after formatting grub messed up so i had to throw in a live cd and rescue it now when i try to boot into either of them i get nothin! Note: I have to sata drives one for linux other for windows
[20:20] <alec868> huiBuh: so i see all the files now.
[20:20] <huiBuh> the desktop is only a directory on your harddisk ...
[20:21] <alec868> huiBuh: i think it would be easier to PM. is that ok>?
[20:21] <bigmb> Ok, nobody in programming channel so I'll try here
[20:21] <bigmb> I get this error cannot convert sockaddr_in* to const sockaddr* for argument 2 in int connect(int, const sockaddr*, socklen_t)
[20:21] <grobda24> DeviN_, The uuid of the drive has probably changed for some reason. I think there's a page on the Ubuntu wiki about resetting it.
[20:21] <Trooper2008> !it
[20:22] <mker> Hi, I just set up sftp on Ubuntu 8.10 following this guide http://passthejager.org/blog/?p=102 but I noticed I can log in as my regular user with the ssh command. How can I make i so only sftp works, not ssh?
[20:22] <Trooper2008> #ubuntu-it
[20:22] <bigmb> When I insert (struct *....), I get a lot of undefined references. Any idea why?
[20:22] <romildo_> Hi.
[20:23] <garyb> can someone help me with duel screen
[20:23] <LoveGuru> howmuch MB in 59.53gb ?
[20:24] <genii> 59,530
[20:24] <forcumang> 59,530 / 1024
[20:24] <forcumang> er
[20:24] <forcumang> theres like
[20:24] <romildo> Instalei o Ubuntu e preciso compilar programas que usam a biblioteca do X11. Que pacote deve ser instalado? (Obs.: estou usando Ubuntu temporariamente; usualmente uso o Gentoo).
[20:24] <forcumang> a diff amt though in mb
[20:24] <garyb> hello
[20:24] <flakeparadigm> LoveGuru 60958.72 MB
[20:24] <forcumang> sec
[20:24] <FloodBot2> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <forcumang> yea
[20:24] <erUSUL> !br | romildo
[20:24] <forcumang> its flakeparadigm's.
[20:25] <maxxik_dude> why linux sucks?
[20:25] <genii> LoveGuru: The rule of thumb is divide by a thousand.
[20:25] <flakeparadigm> LoveGuru: 1GB = 1024MB
[20:25] <LoveGuru> flakeparadigm: ty
[20:25] <damashka> life sux.
[20:25] <genii> maxxik_dude: It's a misunderstood love-child.
[20:25] <romildo> I have installed Ubuntu and I need to compile some programs that uses the library X11. Which packages should be installed for that? (Note: I am using Ubuntu temporarily. My main system is Gentoo)
[20:26] <losetheshizzle> hey all, any idea why the ServerLayout section isn't in my xorg.conf file? .. or what the best way to generate it would be so I stop wrecking my GDE?
[20:26] <flakeparadigm> I need to set up and configure an ftp server on my computer. I'm guessing I install ftpd, and then what?
[20:26] <erUSUL> !ftpd
[20:26] <CyberSpike> Hello all - Anyone ever encounter a sound issue where when 2 programs are running with, 1 locks the sound until both programs are restarted? IE If firefox is running VLC has no sound and vice versa?
[20:26] <SoKal-EC> howdy fellow ubuntuers
[20:26] <ciaran9376> sorry to interrupt are the update servers working?
[20:27] <erUSUL> romildo: libx11-dev maybe
[20:27] <SoKal-EC> ciaran9376: yupp
[20:27] <mker> flakeparadigm, can't really help you but I just set up openssh-server to share files with sftp (instead of regular old insecure ftp) and it was a piece of cake. So unless you absolutely need ftp that might be worth checking out.
[20:27] <eth01> evening.
[20:27] <losetheshizzle> what should a normal ServerLayout section look like in xorg.conf?
[20:28] <flakeparadigm> mker thanks
[20:28] <nixbox> how can i remotely loginto my ubuntu machine and use the GUI, i only have SSH access right now, how do i enable the GUI access via ssh?
[20:29] <erUSUL> flakeparadigm: to be precise (pedantic) 1 GB == 1000 MB and 1 GiB == 1024 MiB
[20:29] <fbc> is there something similiar to OpenEMM(openemm.org) for ubuntu?
[20:29] <CyberSpike> nixbox : run a VNC program through an ssh tunnel
[20:29] <mker> flakeparadigm, I used this guide http://passthejager.org/blog/?p=102 and changed the details to fit me.
[20:29] <flakeparadigm> erUSUL: ok, I'll remember that
[20:29] <flakeparadigm> mker: thnaks
[20:29] <flakeparadigm> thanks**
[20:30] <nixbox> CyberSpike, i want to access an already running gui program, is that also possible?
[20:30] <IcyPolecat> hiya, I have a server with 6.06 pre installed and want to do a clean reinstall of 8.04. Trouble is, the 8.04 install doesn't detect the disk controller and I have no idea what make it is. Anyway to find this out from the 6.06 install?
[20:31] <CyberSpike> nixbox: a vnc program will give you access to the desktop as if you were sitting to the machine
[20:31] <tim> after plugin usb logitech headset, do i have to reboot linux to be able to use it?
[20:31] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: lspci
[20:31] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: ran that - nothing too helpful in there
[20:32] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[20:32] <CyberSpike> Help on a sound issue - Anyone ever encounter a sound issue where when 2 programs are running with, 1 locks the sound until both programs are restarted? IE If firefox is running VLC has no sound and vice versa?
[20:32] <d0wn_> connect
[20:32] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: very sorry - would help if I actually read it properly - it's an Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controllers cc=IDE
[20:33] <Pavlz> hello
[20:33] <Pavlz> how to install madwifi from source ?
[20:33] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: should work out of the box in ubuntu... make sure the controller is in ahci mode (on the motherboard bios)
[20:33] <erUSUL> !madwifi
[20:33] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: not sure I have the option - 2 ticks
[20:34] <delta214> Can anyone help getting ubuntu installed on my iBook G4. What should i use to parition it without losing files/ reinstalling osx
[20:34] <erUSUL> !dualboot
[20:34] <erUSUL> delta214: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[20:34] <genii> IcyPolecat: Ubuntu will also see raid1 drives made on ICH controllers and be able to install to them, but not raid5.
[20:35] <delta214> cheers guys. im quite blind apparently
[20:35] <IcyPolecat> genii: thanks but I don't have any RAID config options either - in fact the BIOS is pretty sparse
[20:36] <Ryoushi> Is anyone else having trouble with v4l?
[20:36] <genii> IcyPolecat: Is this a board with the marvell ide controller plus the regular ICH sata controller?
[20:36] <IcyPolecat> genii: I wish I could tell you - it's in a DC about 400 miles away :-)
[20:37] <Ryoushi> genii and IcyPolecat - it sounds like your talking about comics.  not really important, just a funny observation.
[20:37] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: if there is a marvll ide controller it should appear on lspci output too
[20:37] <zulu34s1> hello, can anyone tell me how to suspend or hibernate after a time i can change?
[20:37] <sam555> how does one partition in ubuntu?
[20:38] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: genii lspci output > http://paste.ubuntu.com/77494/
[20:38] <sawyer_> hello everyone
[20:38] <Ryoushi> sam555 - Gtkparted is the name of the program.
[20:38] <sam555> Ryoushi: thanks!
[20:38] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - it might be available in preferences - power management.
[20:39] <sawyer_> i want to configure a VPN connection, but i don't have that option in the network manager. also, in preferences i don't have a "network configuration" entry, this is an eeepc that had the previous version but i upgraded to ibex
[20:39] <zulu34s1> I don't mean suspend by time that i'm not at the computer
[20:39] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - do you mean just suspend the pc at will?
[20:39] <erUSUL> sawyer_: launch nm-connection-editor
[20:39] <zulu34s1> I mean something like shutdown -h -P +tt
[20:40] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - you could make a quick launch icon for it.
[20:40] <zulu34s1> k
[20:40] <zulu34s1> how?
[20:40] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: genii: any ideas?
[20:40] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - go into the menu bar, right click, and hit "edit menus"
[20:40] <sawyer_> erUSUL, i don't have it installed.
[20:40] <sawyer_> weird that it didn't install it during the upgrade
[20:40] <justizin> Ryoushi, sam555: I think what you want is gparted
[20:41] <sawyer_> should i just install it?
[20:41] <erUSUL> sawyer_: well not surprise about it not being on preferences...
[20:41] <zulu34s1> and then?
[20:41] <sam555> justizin, Ryoushi I found it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[20:41] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - then pick the directory, and hit "new item"
[20:41] <sawyer_> erUSUL, true that :)
[20:41] <erUSUL> sawyer_: make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed
[20:41] <nixbox> can i check what emails have been received by evolution mail client if i cannot access its GUI?
[20:41] <erUSUL> sawyer_: seems like networkmanager is not installed
[20:41] <Ryoushi> sam555 -good, sorry, easy to confuse gparted and gtkparted, what with all this gtk stuff.
[20:41] <nixbox> is there a CLI command to check the emails for evolution?
[20:42] <sawyer_> erUSUL, that's a good point, because this is an eeepc
[20:42] <sam555> Ryoushi: np!
[20:42] <sawyer_> and since the previous version it comes with notebook remix interface
[20:42] <zulu34s1> and then???
[20:42] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: well my recomendation about checking bios settings for the controller or else use the all-generic-ide boot parameter when booting the install
[20:42] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - after you've hit new item, just type the desired name, and then enter the desired command, and from now on every time you hit that in the menu, it'll execute that command.
[20:42] <erUSUL> sawyer_: well then just make sure network manager is installed
[20:42] <Ninina> I have a question, does upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 without reinstalling aka with the package manager leave alot of junk behind?
[20:43] <zulu34s1> i now but what is the desired command???
[20:43] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - shutdown -h -P +tt
[20:43] <zulu34s1> no
[20:43] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: sorry, not being deliberately obtuse. I really don't have anything in the BIOS for ATA controllers apart from enabling / disabling and SMART. Ok I can add that to the option list right?
[20:43] <zulu34s1> i dont want to shutdown after a given time
[20:43] <ionicz> how do i install usb support for ubuntu 8.10 ???
[20:43] <ionicz> it's not recognizing
[20:43] <zulu34s1> i want to SUSPEND or HIBERNATE
[20:43] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1, sorry, it interprets the same way as terminal commands, if that helps.
[20:44] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: yep. that's the only things i can think of
[20:44] <mker> ionicz, what isn't it recognizing?
[20:44] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: rebooting now - will give it a go
[20:44] <sawyer_> erUSUL, i'm gonna check the repositories for the package name and make sure it's installed
[20:44] <zulu34s1> i need a command to hibernate after e.g. 100 minutes
[20:44] <feddozz> hullo!! I can't get compiz working. I tried to uninstall it and reinstall. but nothing done. can anyone help\ me?
[20:44] <ionicz> my usb flash drive
[20:44] <ionicz> or jump drive