[08:55] <smaggard> hello!!
[08:55] <EvilIdler> I have the latest SUSE, but haven't found a system I hate enough to try it on ;)
[08:55] <jende_> houssem: hi!
[08:55] <marius_> yes, red hat and fedora are a cheaters
[08:56] <smaggard> lol!
[08:56] <smaggard> EvilIdler> hilarious
[08:56] <smaggard> and now you all have heard about novel/suse getting in bed with M$ im sure.
[08:56] <EvilIdler> Two DVDs, one for client and one for server, in a big cardboard ad-filled box
[08:56] <smaggard> novell*
[08:56] <smaggard> lol did it come with a AOL cd?!
[08:57] <abattoir> guys, could you please take this to
[08:57] <EvilIdler> I haven't looked closely..must be an image on one of them :P
[08:57] <abattoir> #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:57] <Momal> has anyone used vmware under edgy ?
[08:57] <abattoir> please try to avoid distro bashing here
[08:57] <jende_> abattoir: howdy
[08:57] <smaggard> lol the installer is there somewhere in that rubbish
[08:57] <abattoir> Momal: i do
[08:57] <abattoir> hello jende_
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Do I get the info in Adept about KMilo right that the basic package should be fine for a ThinkPad?
[08:57] <Momal> oh did you have any problems when you compiled the vmware kernel ?
[08:57] <houssem> anayone can tell me how to create my own gfx theme ?
[08:57] <EvilIdler> Should I worry if the Edgy upgrade barely kept back any packages at all?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: not sure
[08:58] <abattoir> Momal: i remember having trouble w/ vmware-player, vmware-server however works fine
[08:58] <jende_> EvilIdler: wouldn't say so
[08:58] <smaggard> can i upgrade to Edgy without losing my existing system? someone said a clean install is recommended.
[08:58] <abattoir> smaggard: yes, you can
[08:58] <EvilIdler> I'm not used to an upgrade going well, and mine is so far :P
[08:58] <smaggard> hmm
[08:59] <smaggard> lol
[08:59] <jende_> smaggard: usually it an upgrade should work fine
[08:59] <smaggard> hmm
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> The info on Kmilo-legacy says: "By default, KMilo comes with plug-ins for Powerbooks, Vaios and ThinkPads"
[08:59] <smaggard> someone said wifi is buggy in edgy tho
[08:59] <abattoir> smaggard: i guess you were referring to me, i said *if* it's feasible(doing a clean install), then it's better
[08:59] <EvilIdler> Always keep /home as its own partition. I've had the same since 1997, just moving between harddrives
[08:59] <smaggard> if it aint broke, dont fix it :D
[08:59] <jende_> smaggard: well wifi can be truely a bit of a hassle
[09:00] <EvilIdler> Wifi is a hassle with any OS, any hardware.
[09:00] <smaggard> yeah i have ndiswrapper and this wifi chip humming now, i would hate to break it.
[09:00] <Momal> abattoir: I have a problem when it wants to compile the kernel module.. using vmware workstation or vmware-player(from the repos)
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> jende_ smaggard: It's not that it was a piece of cake in Dapper though...
[09:00] <abattoir> smaggard: that wouls most probably happen
[09:00] <abattoir> *would
[09:00] <jende_> MilhousePunkRock: that again is true
[09:00] <Momal> abattoir: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/242442 <--- thats what apt-get install vmware-player returns :(
[09:00] <abattoir> Momal: as i said, i remember it having issues as well, i then downloaded vmware-server from the vmware site, and it installed fine
[09:01] <houssem> please anayone can tell me how to create my own gfx theme ?
[09:01] <smaggard> ah ill just stay with dapper for now, everything works fine as of today :D i even got crossover and quickbooks running can you believe it!?
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I did not have to do anything about the wireless after the upgrade
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> houssem: There are howtos in http://kde-look.org
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> houssem: That's not really a Kubuntu-related question
[09:01] <smaggard> quickbooks was the only thing keeping the windows anchor tied to my leg
[09:02] <smaggard> lol
[09:02] <abattoir> Momal: i remember someone else complaining about that a while earlier as well
[09:02] <jende_> houssem: you may want to join the kde channell
[09:02] <smaggard> dang this is the best channel ive ever been in as far as keeping to the topic
[09:02] <houssem> ok thanks my freinds
[09:02] <MilhousePunkRock> houssem: But beware, people over there are not as friendly as they are over here...
[09:02] <jende_> MilhousePunkRock: *ggg*
[09:03] <houssem> MilhousePunkRock: why !! :(
[09:03] <smaggard> yeah ive been in there before..
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> At least one of the devs
[09:03] <Schalken> i have a home partition with a user directory already in it, can i reuse that directory if i use the same username during installation?
[09:03] <abattoir> where?
[09:03] <jende_> MilhousePunkRock: some kde devs aren't even friendly on exhibitions
[09:03] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: where? #kde ?
[09:03] <smaggard> most of them are mean if you ask a question like "google it" or "rtfm"
[09:03] <EvilIdler> Schalken: Yep
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> I was there to ask a question which was pretty kde-specific and could not be resolved in my (other) distro's channel
[09:04] <MilhousePunkRock> All they told me was to ask in my distro's channel, it's not their problem...
[09:04] <Schalken> EvilIdler: it wont delete my stuff? :O
[09:04] <EvilIdler> Schalken: Just don't format, and it'll work just like magic. You won't need to do anything to keep using the files.
[09:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Schalken: Shouldn't, but don't pin me on that...
[09:05] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: where? #kde ?
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Yes
[09:05] <smaggard> my wifi is a broadcom chip btw
[09:05] <Schalken> EvilIdler: what about the file permissions? the new user needs to own all the files...
[09:05] <smaggard> integrated..
[09:05] <jende_> MilhousePunkRock: I remember that, too. I made the same experience on this years LinuxDay they're not responsible for anything - as it seems - its all distrorelated
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> smaggard: Aren't there native drivers for it?
[09:05] <smaggard> couldnt you just setup the new distro with the same username?
[09:05] <smaggard> well the native drivers acted screwy
[09:06] <Schalken>  smaggard: well thats what im trying to find out ;)
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> smaggard: I think that's what he wants to do
[09:06] <EvilIdler> Schalken: If that user is the first one you created, then the UID should be the same on a new install
[09:06] <EvilIdler> Schalken: I've been doing this for years without problems, anyway ;)
[09:06] <smaggard> like the wifi would work perfect for 5 mins then run terribly slow with native, so i used ndiswrapper
[09:06] <Schalken> EvilIdler: okay, i'll hold u to that!
[09:07] <EvilIdler> Schalken: If the UID is wrong, just change it with sudo. Permission flags should remain the same.
[09:07] <jende_> cu later folks have to get some breakfast, like heaps of coffee
[09:07] <smaggard> guys im serious, i think that Vista is going to absolutely blow and linux is going to become a HUGE factor
[09:07] <Motorhead> hai i guess
[09:08] <smaggard> you could do chmod -R user /home/user
[09:08] <smaggard> right
[09:08] <nino> smaggard: I agree with u on Vista, it really sux
[09:08] <smaggard> ?
[09:08] <EvilIdler> Yeah, Vista is quite irrelevant to me. XP with a new face, more or less. Kubuntu is better for me.
[09:08] <Schalken> EvilIdler: so i mount the home partition to /home during install and use the same username, and if it doesnt work, what command would i use to set all the permissions to the new user? im not sure if this user is the first one i made during install...
[09:08] <EvilIdler> Schalken: sudo chown -R username.username /home/username
[09:08] <cwcsc> am i connected ??
[09:08] <smaggard> yeah chown not chmod.......
[09:09] <smaggard> wow its late
[09:09] <MilhousePunkRock> cwcsc: Yes
[09:09] <EvilIdler> Make your personal files also part of your group, unless you like sharing your..hobbies
[09:10] <Schalken> EvilIdler: okay i will save that somewhere...
[09:10] <paolo> Hi. some days ago I installed (apt-get) Glade version 2.12.1 from universe. Yesterday I updated my packet list on adept (on another pc) and noticed the actual available version of Glade on universe is 2.12.0 (downgrade?). In addition, if I try to install it it says: BREAK (it has a conflict with dependencies). what does it mean? thnks
[09:10] <smaggard> and apparently, a LOT of computers that have windows drivers arent 64 bit ready at all, and the manufacturers arent going to go back and make 64 bit drivers..
[09:10] <EvilIdler> Schalken: Go low-tech. Keep a pile of post-its ;)
[09:11] <EvilIdler> smaggard: Driver support for the hardware I have within reach is better out of the box with Linux, than Vista with a few downloads.
[09:11] <Schalken> EvilIdler: i might have a postit somewhere.... :P
[09:11] <jinix> hi ppl
[09:11] <jinix> anyone know how to configure kontact for its mail
[09:11] <Momal> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/242442 <-- anyone had problems running vmware-player on edgy ?
[09:11] <EvilIdler> Oh, finally. All packages downloaded. Now begins the fun!
[09:12] <smaggard> yeah, i mean 64 linux distros support my hardware, yet my laptop isnt "vista certified" nor will it ever be becuz HP isnt going to suppor it they say.
[09:12] <dennister> this is a mysql-server-related question/prob: Anyone know what to do about this error message: Session management error: Could not open network socket
[09:12] <EvilIdler> Yay HP!
[09:12] <smaggard> for real
[09:12] <Schalken> EvilIdler: was that username.username or username:username?
[09:12] <EvilIdler> Schalken: Both work :)
[09:13] <smaggard> it can be a . or a : ?
[09:13] <dennister> context: this is happening as the database is filling with data...and i do have OpenSSH running
[09:13] <EvilIdler> Yep
[09:13] <Schalken> EvilIdler: cool
[09:13] <Schalken> wish me luck!
[09:13] <smaggard> neat, didnt know that
[09:13] <EvilIdler> They're both on the same key on my keyboard, so that's something I found accidentally
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> EvilIdler: Post-It's are probably the best invention that does not need a power source...
[09:14] <EvilIdler> MilhousePunkRock: True :)
[09:14] <smaggard> i addressed this problem in gentoo with a kernel patch, but it happens in kubuntu as well, the time after a reboot keeps going an hour ahead.
[09:14] <EvilIdler> Timezone problems? tzconfig?
[09:14] <smaggard> hmm lemme check
[09:15] <EvilIdler> There are a few other programs related, that might fix it too
[09:15] <dennister> nino?
[09:15] <nino> yea
[09:15] <kalbo> abattoir: its done...
[09:16] <smaggard> holy geez the time zone was set to new york but im in central, thanks EvilIdler!
[09:16] <dennister> could u scroll up a bit? my question should be right up ur alley
[09:16] <dennister> i ran into this last night, and did searches for it, but couldn't seem to find much info or help
[09:17] <vge> if i take a ssh connection to some host, how do i change my local folder while connected?
[09:17] <vge> using commandline
[09:17] <EvilIdler> Damnit, strange hardware problem on the other computer. I have a RAM stick that's afraid of the dark -it won't work alone
[09:18] <nino> dennister: havent had one like that, you've installed all the relavent libraries for mysql?
[09:18] <smaggard> what time is it in eastern time right now?
[09:18] <MilhousePunkRock> So, does anybody have a clue how to get Power related settings back in KControl?
[09:18] <dennister> i believe so, but i'm following that howto even more religiously than last night...and so far it's working a bit better for me
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> smaggard: I'd guess it's 3.18 am
[09:19] <smaggard> alrighty
[09:19] <smaggard> thanks
[09:19] <nino> dennister: I'm having a look around hang in there
[09:19] <dennister> thx
[09:20] <smaggard> does everyone here pretty much use kdelook to get their kde eye candy?
[09:21] <dudl> abattoir: are you therez?
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> dudl: I think he went out...
[09:21] <dennister> sorry...not too interested in eye candy just yet myself...probably i'll use kdelook
[09:22] <dudl> MilhousePunkRock: ok, do u know the command, i want to upgrade my dapper to edgy
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> !upgrade | dudl
[09:23] <ubotu> dudl: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:23] <nino> dennister: what does it say when u run mysqlcheck ?
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> dudl: I sticked to that guide and it worked for me...
[09:23] <dennister> let me do that
[09:23] <dudl> ok
[09:23] <vge> smaggard: if i really want eye candy (to make my windows friends jelous) i just use beryl :P
[09:24] <dennister> would u like me to put into pastebin?
[09:24] <smaggard> hmmm beryl
[09:24] <dennister> !pastebin
[09:24] <smaggard> never used it
[09:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:24] <vge> [10:17]  <vge> if i take a ssh connection to some host, how do i change my local folder while connected?
[09:24] <nino> yea
[09:25] <smaggard> is it a xgl type thing?
[09:25] <vge> smaggard: something like this: http://oknotizie.alice.it/go.php?us=21310251092c865e
[09:26] <dennister> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30512/
[09:27] <smaggard> whoah thats slick
[09:27] <nino> dennister: ok all seems fine there, looks the same as mine!!
[09:28] <dennister> so why am i getting that error message?
[09:29] <vge> [10:17]  <vge> if i take a ssh connection to some host, how do i change my local folder while connected?
[09:29] <dudl> abattoir: are you therez?
[09:30] <smaggard> where do i put the window decoration file for kde at?
[09:30] <nino> dennister: i think it is on the client sied
[09:30] <nino> dennister: side
[09:31] <dennister> and the client side being DataDirect in this case? where i'm getting my data from during download?
[09:31] <smaggard> ah nvm
[09:32] <nino> dennister: yip
[09:32] <en1gm4> hi there
[09:32] <nino> dennister: lets verify if mysql is runnig => mysqladmin -u root status
[09:33] <geisha> can some one help me?... howe to open downloads
[09:33] <dennister> ok..well there's a tip on the mythtv howto (edgy howto directs us to just one small section of it)..i'll try that -- maybe tomorrow
[09:33] <Momal> ugh vmware not working under edgy >_<
[09:34] <nino> dennister: R   u done??
[09:34] <dennister> it's 3:30 am here again, and i got <4 hours this morning
[09:34] <geisha> howe can i open windows files ore programs in linux
[09:34] <en1gm4> my keyboard doesnt work after i boot with the installation cd, in the initial menu (when i choose start or install) it works but after the live load it do not... the keboard is ps2, any hint?
[09:34] <nino> its 10:34 am here, go get some sleep man
[09:34] <dennister> almost...backend is done...need frontend and goodies yet...don't want to screw anything up at this stage cause of exhaustion
[09:35] <nino> its cool
[09:35] <geisha> ?
[09:35] <cpk1> geisha: windows files?
[09:35] <dennister> yeah,,,it would be really neat if that tip/fix did actually cause that error message to go away
[09:36] <dennister> <--doesn't take error messages lightly anymore...i'm just too close!
[09:36] <houssem> !cpio
[09:36] <ubotu> cpio: GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of files. In component main, is important. Version 2.6-17 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 520 kB
[09:36] <dennister> i'll give u an update tomorrow, k?
[09:36] <nino> :) thats the spirrit!!
[09:36] <dennister> g'nite all
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !wine | geisha
[09:36] <ubotu> geisha: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:36] <nino> peace
[09:36] <dennister> and ty for the reassurance nino...very helpful
[09:37] <smaggard> what will a apt-get dist-upgrade do?
[09:37] <geisha> thank you
[09:37] <cpk1> geisha: what are you trying to do?
[09:37] <geisha> cedega is not good?
[09:38] <vge> Momal: does this help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMware#head-9973a76766d2a1a45c0da13567ce73c227904cbf
[09:38] <geisha> i want to play win games on linux
[09:38] <en1gm4> does anyone know how my keyboard stops to work after the live is loaded? I cant event to start to install :(
[09:38] <smaggard> im installing beryl :D
[09:38] <vge> Momal: i need to try it myself too :)
[09:38] <duane_> smaggard: what howto are you using?
[09:38] <nino> dennister: remember youre the one holding the keaboard, not the machine!!! lol
[09:38] <smaggard> beryls ubuntu guide
[09:38] <duane_> cause i got a good one
[09:38] <duane_> if you want i
[09:38] <duane_> ok
[09:38] <duane_> hopefully it works for ya
[09:39] <nino> aarg keyboard!!
[09:39] <smaggard> i hope so too
[09:39] <smaggard> lol
[09:39] <smaggard> whats your guide incase it doesnt
[09:39] <en1gm4> keyboard sry
[09:39] <duane_> beryl is awesome
[09:39] <en1gm4> :D
[09:39] <cpk1> geisha: wine will usually work, cedega is usually easier but you are supposed to pay for it
[09:39] <Arafangion> cpk1: Surely you jest!
[09:39] <duane_> lemme find it
[09:39] <vge> beryl has also some really bad bugs still
[09:39] <en1gm4> nino: can you help me? not just in english i mean :P
[09:40] <EvilIdler> vge: Freeze bugs or mere display bugs?
[09:40] <cpk1> Arafangion: cedega actually pays to be able use the security methods that the games use, so it usually means less work arounds =)
[09:40] <geisha> cedega is already downed but i dont know howe to open the program
[09:40] <nino> en1gm4: whats up
[09:41] <smaggard> mmk
[09:41] <en1gm4> my keyboard doesnt work after i boot with the installation cd, in the initial menu (when i choose start or install) it works but after the live load it do not... the keboard is ps2, any hint?
[09:41] <cpk1> cedega uses a gui but running cedega from konsole will probably start it
[09:41] <duane_> im using beryl right now
[09:41] <cpk1> it should be in the kmenu
[09:41] <duane_> and yes it has bugs
[09:41] <duane_> for instance starting beryl manager sometimes will result in no menu bars and stuff
[09:41] <duane_> but all you got to do is close beryl manager and it works
[09:42] <Momal> vge: thanks trying it now hopefully it works >_<
[09:42] <nino> en1gm4: kubuntu 6.06 ??
[09:42] <duane_> smaggard: are you on edgy or dapper?
[09:42] <en1gm4> nino: , i downloaded it sunday
[09:42] <en1gm4> nino 6.10
[09:42] <smaggard> dapper
[09:43] <nino> en1gm4: did u make any changes in the bios??
[09:43] <duane_> ok i got something for ya
[09:43] <duane_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271533&highlight=xgl+beryl
[09:43] <duane_> that's specifically for kde
[09:43] <en1gm4> nino: no, the keyboard works fine except in the live
[09:43] <smaggard> alrighty :D hey do you rember puttin XAANoOffscreenPixmaps in your device options?
[09:43] <duane_> beryl's howto is for gnome
[09:44] <duane_> smaggard: check out that link
[09:44] <duane_> its exactly what i used
[09:44] <duane_> to get beryl on dapper
[09:44] <|lostbyte|> IS it safe to delete the contents of "/var/tmp/kdecache-<user>/
[09:45] <|lostbyte|> ??
[09:45] <nino> en1gm4: hold on!!
[09:45] <en1gm4> nino: ok
[09:45] <duane_> |lostbyte|: im not sure but its just cache so you'll prolly be ok
[09:45] <duane_> but google it to be sure
[09:45] <en1gm4> nino: an other thing... i tried o do the check of the cd... it does it fine... after that it tells "press anykey to reboot".... but the keyboard does not work once again.....
[09:47] <nino> en1gm4: so this happens after installation??
[09:48] <en1gm4> nino: no... look... i start with the installation cd... at at the intial menu the keyb works... after that starts the live dist....
[09:48] <smaggard> hmm im at the part to edit gdm... but i dont have /etc/gdm
[09:48] <en1gm4> nino: and i can use it with the mouse.... but not with the keyboard...
[09:48] <en1gm4> nino: i cant install it becouse i cant use the keyboard!
[09:48] <EvilIdler> Hmph. apt could use a hook function so font-packages could tell it to run font regeneration AFTER all configuration is done. Doing it once per font seems inefficient.
[09:48] <en1gm4> nino: i cant put passwords username and so on
[09:49] <Momal> vge: awsome it works thanks :D
[09:49] <geisha> i'll try wine is it wine hq
[09:49] <|lostbyte|> I get this..when i run kate.
[09:49] <|lostbyte|> kio (KSycoca): Trying to open ksycoca from /var/tmp/kdecache-thelostbyte/ksycoca
[09:49] <|lostbyte|> kio (KTrader): query for KTextEditor/Plugin : returning 4 offers
[09:49] <|lostbyte|> and kate never opens..
[09:49] <nino> en1gm4: yes now i understand there is a config file that does this!!
[09:50] <Schalken> EvilIdler: flawless, absoluteley flawless
[09:50] <|lostbyte|> lolz
[09:50] <en1gm4> nino: where?
[09:50] <cpk1> geisha: did you install cedega with a .deb?
[09:50] <EvilIdler> Schalken: Good :)
[09:51] <nino> en1gm4: try booting without any keyboard=> plug it out completetly!!
[09:52] <nino> en1gm4: start the installation and then plug the keyboard in
[09:52] <Schalken> EvilIdler: i was much impressed with the 'amarok cant play mp3s, would you like to download mp3 support?' dialogue. exactly what new users need!
[09:52] <EvilIdler> Schalken: Ooh, better than when I first installed it :)
[09:52] <Schalken> anyway...to download nvidia drivers...
[09:52] <Hobbsee> it's ncie when it works :)
[09:54] <en1gm4> nino: how can i start? i wait 30sec?
[09:55] <nino> just wait
[09:55] <en1gm4> nino: ok, i'll try when i get home, i'm at school now :D ty very much
[09:55] <geisha> no i rip it from internet
[09:55] <en1gm4> if i'll have some problem i'll return here to bother u :P
[09:55] <nino> or get the install cd!! :)
[09:56] <en1gm4> ahahaha here?
[09:56] <nino> ??
[09:57] <EvilIdler> Reboot and prayer time..
[09:58] <Schalken> uhm, where is the theme manager?
[09:59] <smaggard> aight ill bbiab after i reboot and try beryl :D
[10:01] <Momal> is anyone here able to search on http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/ ?
[10:01] <geisha> thank you for your help i've downed wine now
[10:03] <SyberMile> hello all
[10:03] <keith> Hi
[10:03] <SyberMile> i was wondering if wpa was easyer with kubuntu or ubuntu or r they the same?
[10:04] <keith> I'm trying to upgrade to Edgy but get  some errors
[10:04] <keith> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:04] <keith>   libpango1.0-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not installed
[10:04] <keith>   xutils-dev: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is installed
[10:04] <EvilIdler> Whiskey tango foxtrot - my upgrade went well o.O
[10:07] <keith> Can anybody help me??? Please???
[10:10] <geisha> i'm still not done ... howe to open wine with ark
[10:11] <cpk1> geisha: ?? you install wine with apt-get or adept
[10:11] <geisha> wath is that! :(
[10:12] <Schalken> i have one gripe, the progress animation in the top right of konqueror is damn ugly. is there a way i can change it?
[10:14] <EvilIdler> Quanta works, Opera works, IE works, everything seems nice and fast. Whee!
[10:14] <Tukadafoonday> Good evening.
[10:14] <cpk1> geisha: apt-get or adept is how you should be installing everything in kubuntu
[10:15] <geisha> i have just downed it and now its a bzip tar-archief
[10:15] <geisha> ooww i don't know
[10:16] <geisha> i think its adept i have a adept updater so?
[10:17] <EvilIdler> I just tried starting Adept, and..it just died.
[10:17] <geisha> and a package manager adept i think that its a adept
[10:17] <cpk1> geisha: are you using edgy or dapper?
[10:18] <geisha> i don't know
[10:19] <cpk1> geisha: when you installed kubuntu which version did you download?
[10:19] <bunny> hi everyone
[10:19] <cpk1> Sysinfo for 'snoresqueeze': Linux 2.6.15-27-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4806 bogomips), , RAM: 1095/1263MB, 107 proc's, 19.3d up
[10:19] <cpk1> hrmm sysinfo should say your ubuntu version too =P
[10:19] <bunny> has neone here used ossim on kubuntu
[10:19] <EvilIdler> I've got 29 python packages kept back now, but that's no problem. I also have x-window-system-core kept back. It doesn't want to install.
[10:19] <nino_> nino: upgrading mmm
[10:20] <geisha> i did'not installed kubuntu  it was already installed
[10:20] <geisha> i will have a look
[10:20] <cpk1> geisha: open Konsole and type lsb_release -a
[10:21] <bunny> has neone here used ossim
[10:21] <geisha> okey
[10:21] <bunny> on kbuntu
[10:22] <vge> EvilIdler: you can use for example synaptic and select there "Status" leaflet and install those paggages
[10:23] <EvilIdler> vge: Cheers, giving that a try later
[10:23] <EvilIdler> First try a few games and see if 3D actually is working :)
[10:23] <geisha> in the kinfocenter?
[10:23] <bunny> quit
[10:24] <shinobi2>  the calendar in k-menu, how can i shift the saturday over to the first column?
[10:24] <cpk1> geisha: what? open Konsole
[10:24] <geisha> yes
[10:24] <geisha> i have found it
[10:25] <cpk1> so type lsb_release -a
[10:25] <geisha> i have typed lsb_release -a
[10:25] <geisha> and now
[10:25] <cpk1> and does it say dapper or edgy?
[10:26] <geisha> no
[10:26] <geisha> LSB Version:    n/a
[10:27] <cpk1> and it says nothing else?
[10:27] <vge> [10:40]  <EvilIdler> vge: Freeze bugs or mere display bugs? <-- to old topic, i can't resize my windows while using beryl
[10:27] <EvilIdler> vge: Ah, that's a slight problem, yes. Especially for my desktop use :/
[10:28] <geisha> Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)
[10:29] <geisha> Release:        5.10
[10:29] <geisha> and a codename
[10:29] <cpk1> wow, breezy badger
[10:29] <cpk1> thats kind of old
[10:29] <geisha> ooww
[10:30] <geisha> yes codename breezy
[10:30] <EvilIdler> This year is v6, and the right number is the month it was released
[10:30] <cpk1> they just release 6.10
[10:30] <cpk1> I would think you should at least use dapper
[10:31] <EvilIdler> Just got Edgy up and running, and I'm now installing Digikam to see if it's any good :)
[10:31] <shinobi2> anyone have their wireless working in 6.10?
[10:31] <geisha> so what must i do now
[10:32] <smaggard> hi
[10:33] <cpk1> geisha: well wine still has a breezy repo (surprisingly) so add this into your /etc/sources.list or add it in using adept: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy main
[10:33] <smaggard> i tried your guide but it doesnt work when i select xgl fro the login menu, it just sits there and i have to get back to the login manager
[10:35] <geisha> thank you ill try
[10:37] <vge> [10:17]  <vge> if i take a ssh connection to some host, how do i change my local folder while connected to upload data?
[10:38] <cpk1> geisha: also you might want to consider upgrading sometime in the future
[10:38] <kamui> how would I go about troubleshooting my erratic touchpad?
[10:39] <kamui> I've confirmed it works fine in windows, so i think its a bad lnx driver
[10:39] <kamui> I can mostly track around teh screen, but it sticks sometimes and will just randomly jump
[10:39] <EvilIdler> vge: You could look at the scp command, or maybe sftp instead of directly sshing
[10:42] <Arafangion> kamui: Define "erratic".
[10:43] <kamui> Arafangion: right now, If I move my mouse around the screen using the touchpad, it will randomly stop moving even though Im still moving my finger.  Also when I click and try to drag something around it sometimes just jumps wildly from where I was smoothly dragging to a random point on the screen, then sticks, then resumes normal operation.  These Erratic movements occur every few seconds
[10:47] <pointwood> can anyone help me getting danish characters to work in Kontact/Kmail?
[10:50] <EvilIdler> pointwood: Do you have them working in xterms and regular KDE programs?
[10:50] <Arafangion> kamui: I have the opposite problem in windows, but with external mouse!
[10:50] <pointwood> EvilIdler: yes
[10:50] <geisha> can i down an install dapper 6.06
[10:50] <cpk1> geisha: you can upgrade to dapper from breezy
[10:51] <cpk1> !upgrade | geisha
[10:51] <ubotu> geisha: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:51] <EvilIdler> pointwood: I've got all sorts of symbols working in Kontact here, so it's strange if yours doesn't work. Try starting it from a terminal and see if any messages there help you.
[10:51] <cpk1> geisha: oops thats for going to edgy
[10:51] <pointwood> EvilIdler: when I write mails they look okay but when I recieve mails with danish characters, they don't work
[10:51] <pointwood> k
[10:51] <pointwood> will do
[10:51] <EvilIdler> pointwood: Ah, that's a slightly different problem then
[10:51] <geisha> ooww okey
[10:51] <cpk1> geisha: do NOT follow those directions, that is to go from dapper to edgy
[10:52] <EvilIdler> pointwood: Your client is expecting a different format on mail than people are sending you
[10:52] <EvilIdler> pointwood: Do people notice YOUR mail looking funny?
[10:52] <geisha> okey
[10:52] <pointwood> EvilIdler: will check
[10:53] <geisha> yes i see
[10:54] <EvilIdler> pointwood: Most Nordic mail I receive is ISO-8859-1. If you are using UTF-8, that might go both ways in KMail
[10:54] <pointwood> okay, wierd, just tested by sending an email to a gmail account and replying to it
[10:54] <pointwood> that worked just fine
[10:54] <geisha> cpk1 what can i do to upgrade
[10:54] <EvilIdler> pointwood: Google are smart. Outlook isn't quite as clever :)
[10:55] <pointwood> hehe
[10:55] <pointwood> EvilIdler: well, kmail neither then ;) it should recognise whether the mail uses iso-8859-1 or utf-8 ;)
[10:56] <EvilIdler> pointwood: Agreed, but it doesn't seem to :/
[10:56] <pointwood> nope
[10:56] <EvilIdler> pointwood: I'm not familiar with KMail, really, but there should be an option to switch it to the old ISO formats
[10:56] <pointwood> which might be what sends me back to thunderbird
[10:56] <EvilIdler> pointwood: Big, clunky, but it works ;)
[10:56] <cpk1> geisha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades should tell you how
[10:56] <geisha> http://tweakers.net/meuktracker/13941
[10:57] <cpk1> geisha: when it says gksudo use kdesudo instead
[10:57] <geisha> okey
[10:57] <cpk1> geisha: i mean use kdesu instead
[10:57] <pointwood> EvilIdler: hehe, perhaps, but as you say, it works, there are quite a few things that works better in that than in kmail imho
[10:58] <EvilIdler> pointwood: I'm not too impressed with all KDE programs, and KMail is one of those. It felt limited.
[10:58] <cpk1> geisha: and kubuntu uses adept instead of synaptic
[10:58] <geisha> okey
[10:59] <pointwood> EvilIdler: I'm pretty satisfied with most KDE programs, but kmail/kontact seems to be less than great
[10:59] <pointwood> and it seems it is a lack of people working on it that is the problem
[11:02] <geisha> Documentation for Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) is that the one
[11:03] <geisha> Upgrading from Ubuntu 5.10 ("Breezy Badger")
[11:04] <Schalken> the nvidia install guide says to install 'linux-restricted-modules' but there is 2.6.17-10-386, 2.6.17-10-generic, 386, 686, common and generic. which do i install?
[11:04] <cpk1> geisha: yup, the link i sent you is the correct one dont worry
[11:04] <vge> there's no harm on removing old linx images and headers right?
[11:04] <Schalken> vge: nope
[11:04] <cpk1> i like to keep one or 2 old kernels around just in case something breaks with the new one
[11:05] <cpk1> but I guess isnt really a problem unless you are doing your own
[11:06] <Arafangion> vge: Why bother removing them?
[11:06] <vge> well, they seemed to take 1Gb of space :D
[11:06] <Arafangion> vge: You have one thousand kernels installed?
[11:07] <vge> i think the headers were the bigger part
[11:07] <nino_> anyone know how i can reinstall kubuntu desktop, mine seems to have dissapeard!!
[11:08] <Schalken> nino_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:08] <Schalken> (wihtout the ? :P )
[11:08] <Arafangion> vge: Headers are also tiny.
[11:08] <nino_> i did that just now but it failed!!
[11:08] <Arafangion> vge: And there's only one version of those - that which glibc were compiled with!
[11:08] <Schalken> nino_: what did it say?
[11:09] <vge> Arafangion: restricted modules paggages? are they big? :)
[11:09] <Arafangion> vge: The headers actually has very little to do with the kernel you run
[11:09] <Schalken> nino_: if its more than two lines please use the pastebin btw
[11:09] <vge> Arafangion: i know, but usually vmware want's them to be installed
[11:09] <nino_> Schalken: sorry i did apt-get install kdesktop!!
[11:10] <Schalken> nino_: that would be it ;)
[11:11] <nino_> Schalken: Thats the one that failed , trying kubuntu-desktop now, lets see what happens
[11:11] <BderenorCaine> hi everyone
[11:12] <BderenorCaine> anyone here who might be willing to help me solve a little problem ?
[11:12] <Schalken> BderenorCaine: just ask, anyone who can help you will :)
[11:13] <nino_> does linux need any disk defrag tools??
[11:13] <Schalken> nino_: not really. the filesystems are very efficient are rarely need defraging
 i am at the  link u sent  but i still don't know what to do
[11:14] <nino_> Schalken: Cool see thats why i love linux!!
[11:14] <Schalken> :)
[11:14] <pichi_> hello to all
[11:14] <Schalken> hello
[11:14] <nino_> pichi_ hi
[11:15] <BderenorCaine> what is the init script that sets up networking at boot and how do i activate it
[11:15] <BderenorCaine> the installer failed to do that for me
[11:15] <BderenorCaine> i have to run dhclient manually every time after boot
[11:16] <geisha> i do'nt see kdesu
[11:17] <Schalken> geisha: you mean when you run, say, "kdesu cd ." it doesnt do anything?
[11:19] <nino_> geisha: try kdesu konqueror and then select storage media
[11:19] <geisha> no i'm trying to upgrade  breezy
[11:19] <nino_> oops
[11:20] <nino_> BderenorCaine: sorry man cant help!! :)
[11:21] <BderenorCaine> hm okay .
[11:21] <BderenorCaine> i'm going to try the forums then
[11:21] <geisha> do i need to it from de commando with alt-f2
[11:21] <ubuntu_> bonjour j'essaie linux pour la premire fois
[11:22] <ubuntu_> c pour a ke mon pseudo est ubuntu
[11:22] <ubuntu_> lool
[11:23] <ubuntu_> est ce kkun prrais me dire comment me connecter a un autre serveur? svp
[11:29] <geisha> thank you all for trying to help me
[11:31] <ubuntu_> svp je n'arrive pas a me connecter a un autre serveur
[11:32] <n3storm> hi everyone
[11:32] <nino> hi
[11:32] <BderenorCaine> ubuntu_: try a french channel, please
[11:32] <n3storm> My kdm resolution is different than my desktop resolution
[11:32] <n3storm> and the good one is the kdms
[11:33] <n3storm> any clue?
[11:33] <BderenorCaine> ubuntu_: most people here don't understand a word you're saying ;)
[11:33] <Mkux> hello
[11:33] <nino> i've got the same prob n3storm
[11:33] <n3storm> where is the file?
[11:33] <sadistic_kitten> hey ppl, I need help. I did an upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, via cl and apt-get. things are going fine except that my swap drive isn't loading and I don't know why
[11:33] <n3storm> nino: and any clue?
[11:33] <ubuntu_> thx g reussi :)
[11:33] <ubuntu_> super!
[11:34] <ubuntu_> merci
[11:34] <Mkux> what software do i need for linux - windows networking ?
[11:34] <nino> n3storm, i've given up just left it as is
[11:34] <sadistic_kitten> Mkux: samba?
[11:34] <Mkux> anything else?
[11:34] <Mkux> thx btw
[11:34] <sadistic_kitten> *shrugs* I don't think so
[11:34] <nino> n3storm: but i think it is my monitor, using a rather old one
[11:35] <n3storm> don't think so
[11:35] <n3storm> nino: I think the kcontrol thing is messing around something
[11:35] <n3storm> mine is not that old
[11:35] <nino> n3storm: if i boot recovery mode then it is fine
[11:36] <n3storm> maybe the kde-guidance at /etc/init.d is doing something nasty at startup
[11:36] <nino> since i upgraded to 6.06, thats when it started
[11:36] <n3storm> 6.10 here
[11:37] <Mkux> what do i need in terms of security to protect my system
[11:37] <nino> n3storm: i've played with init.d but my screen when all funny so i just left it
[11:38] <sadistic_kitten> Mkux: on linux?
[11:38] <Mkux> yea kubuntu linux, newest version
[11:38] <Mkux> do i even need security or not so much
[11:38] <sadistic_kitten> no
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> You need the security repository definately
[11:39] <Mkux> no security necessary?
[11:39] <sadistic_kitten> Mkux: you very new to linux?
[11:39] <Mkux> yes
[11:39] <Mkux> very
[11:39] <sadistic_kitten> ah
[11:39] <Mkux> windows pro
[11:39] <n3storm> at least a firewall and an updated system
[11:39] <sadistic_kitten> yeah
[11:39] <sadistic_kitten> listen to him
[11:39] <h3sp4wn> No need for a firewall
[11:39] <nino> Mkux: Strong root password for starters
[11:39] <sadistic_kitten> he knows what he is talking about
[11:39] <Mkux> no firewall needed?
[11:39] <n3storm> sure
[11:39] <Mkux> what is the security repository
[11:40] <n3storm> Mkux: better start reading a couple of manuals
[11:40] <Mkux> which manual is the best?
[11:40] <n3storm> is better for you just in case you do something wrong with security and
[11:40] <n3storm> you can't come back here
[11:40] <n3storm> :D
[11:40] <Mkux> yea i agree for sure a manual is always key
[11:40] <n3storm> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[11:40] <Mkux> im going to pick one up tommorow
[11:40] <n3storm> that's a good one
[11:41] <sadistic_kitten> n3storm: can you help me?
[11:41] <sadistic_kitten> have you had anyone else with this problem?
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> If you are a windows pro I would say something like that would be over simplified
[11:41] <n3storm> sadistic_kitten: sorry
[11:41] <n3storm> can you explain again the problem?
[11:41] <vegansickle> im back
[11:41] <sadistic_kitten> I did an upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, via cl and apt-get. things are going fine except that my swap drive isn't loading and I don't know why
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> Mkux: I would pick up something like Linux or UNIX in a nutshell
[11:42] <sephyria> i got my stuff working unfortunately i had to reinstall
[11:42] <Mkux> i need a hardcopy manual
[11:42] <n3storm> sadistic_swap drive or swap partition?
[11:42] <n3storm> ops
[11:42] <n3storm> sadistic_kitten: swap drive or swap partition?
[11:42] <h3sp4wn> Mkux: They are published by o'reilly the 2 I mentioned
[11:43] <sadistic_kitten> I think it's just the drive
[11:43] <nino> sadistic_kitten: is it stil listed in fstab?
[11:43] <sadistic_kitten> yeah, but with crazyness
[11:43] <sadistic_kitten> do you want me to post my fstab?
[11:43] <n3storm> just the swap line
[11:43] <n3storm> please
[11:43] <nino> sadistic_kitten: yes do that
[11:44] <Mkux> thanks
[11:44] <sadistic_kitten> ok hold on
[11:44] <Mkux> the 2 which you mentioned sorry?
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> Mkux: Linux in a Nutshell or UNIX in a Nutshell
[11:45] <sadistic_kitten> # /dev/sda1 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[11:45] <sadistic_kitten> UUID=d091fc4d-eb35-4234-906e-62b8547af0e3 none swap sw 0 0
[11:45] <Mkux> thanks alot!
[11:45] <Mkux> i hope they dont cost too much lol
[11:45] <Mkux> education is always worth it though
[11:46] <nino> sadistic_kitten: /dev/hda      none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:46] <sadistic_kitten> you want me to replace that line with that?
[11:46] <n3storm> sadistic_kitten: don't do that
[11:46] <sadistic_kitten> yeah I did think so
[11:46] <n3storm> nop
[11:46] <nino> sadistic_kitten: no no no
[11:46] <n3storm> how do you know your swap is not loading?
[11:47] <nino> sadistic_kitten:thats an example of min
[11:47] <sadistic_kitten> well you know when kubuntu does checks on partions every once in a while
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> Mkux: The Linux one will have linux specfic stuff in it but if you get the UNIX one you could use Solaris / Aix / HPUX also - and it would still work in linux
[11:48] <nino> sadistic_kitten: i/ve never seen it check my swap
[11:48] <sadistic_kitten> when that started right up the top of it said "loading swap .... [failed] "
[11:48] <sadistic_kitten> something like that
[11:48] <Mkux> okay right on thanks alot
[11:48] <sadistic_kitten> no it was checking my /home partition
[11:48] <Mkux> im dogged - out
[11:48] <n3storm> sadistic_kitten: I think that is something about hibernating or so...
[11:49] <nino> sadistic_kitten: do you know where your swap partition is eg hda1, or sda or whatever??
[11:49] <sadistic_kitten> I'm pretty sure it's /sda1
[11:49] <n3storm> sadistic_kitten: have you ever suspended or hibernate your pc or laptop?
[11:49] <sadistic_kitten> yeah
[11:50] <sadistic_kitten> but I think it might have been doing that before I did that
[11:50] <n3storm> sadistic_kitten: what does "mount" with no params say?
[11:50] <sadistic_kitten> n3storm: a few things what do you want me to look for?
[11:51] <nino> sadistic_kitten: check under system settings / Disk and filesystems if you can see it there
[11:51] <n3storm> sure, is your swap partition loaded? or the same UUD?
[11:51] <n3storm> UUID
[11:51] <sadistic_kitten> no it's not
[11:52] <n3storm> open a konsole please, and write down "mount"
[11:54] <sadistic_kitten> yeah
[11:54] <sadistic_kitten> and
[11:54] <n3storm> can you see there sda1?
[11:54] <sadistic_kitten> no
[11:54] <n3storm> neither do I
[11:54] <n3storm> ???
[11:54] <n3storm> XDD
[11:54] <n3storm> where is the swap gone?
[11:55] <nino> kaboom!!!! :)
[11:55] <sadistic_kitten> should I check the log or something?
[11:57] <n3storm> but the system is stable
[11:57] <n3storm> ???
[11:57] <n3storm> quite a mistery, indeed
[11:57] <sadistic_kitten> yes
[11:58] <sadistic_kitten> should I try in another channel?
[11:58] <n3storm> well
[11:58] <n3storm> "we" should try
[11:58] <n3storm> :D
[11:58] <sadistic_kitten> uh
[11:58] <sadistic_kitten> I think your swap is running
[11:59] <sadistic_kitten> if not
[11:59] <sadistic_kitten> I dunno
[11:59] <sadistic_kitten> try top in the cl
[11:59] <sadistic_kitten> $ top
[12:00] <sadistic_kitten> or free -m
[12:00] <sadistic_kitten> and it should tell you
[12:00] <n3storm> Swap:       497972          0     497972
[12:00] <n3storm> sadistic_kitten: that's it
[12:01] <nino> *.. psst dennister?
[12:01] <n3storm> my swap is being used
[12:01] <n3storm> and yours?
[12:01] <sadistic_kitten> I get 0 0 0
[12:02] <n3storm> sadistic_kitten: have you checked with fdisk?
[12:02] <n3storm> mmm
[12:03] <n3storm> sorry sadistic_kitten , you should check at #ubuntu channel
[12:03] <n3storm> in can't help you anymore
[12:03] <n3storm> plus
[12:03] <sadistic_kitten> ok
[12:04] <n3storm> my screen resolution is making me dizzy
[12:04] <n3storm> good luck!
[12:05] <sadistic_kitten> my new years resolution is 1280 x 800
[12:05] <sadistic_kitten> :P
[12:05] <sadistic_kitten> ah bash
[12:11] <kay> i have vmware and i want to know how i can install the vmware tools / if the virtual pc is not started the 'install vmare tools' button is disable do i start the virtual machine it is enable but vmware say you cant install while runnung the virtual machine!?! anyone can help me??
[12:11] <kimmern> Hey! I'm connected to a wireless network on eth1..but in my sys.log I see that my computer tries to connect to eth0 all the time..maybe every other minute..how can I make it stop? I'm allready connected to eth1, so don't know why it does that!..eth0 is wired network, witch i almost don't use..but can't remove it either..no network cable is connected to my laptop either..so..any suggestions? I use Kubuntu edgy..
[12:12] <JanK> kopete is buggy as some of you may know, there's a patch linked from the bug tracking system. which of these files do i need to install?
[12:12] <JanK> kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu3.diff.gz
[12:12] <JanK> kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu3.dsc
[12:12] <JanK> kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu3_i386.changes
[12:12] <JanK> kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[12:12] <JanK> kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3.orig.tar.gz
[12:12] <JanK> kopete-dev_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[12:13] <intelikey> Question; will it break anything if /use is a symlink to /   and /sbin is a symlink to /bin  ???
[12:13] <intelikey> JanK you would install the .deb
[12:13] <JanK> that one? kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[12:13] <kay> kimmern: maybe you can do ifconfig eth0 stop
[12:14] <Arafangion> kay: For windows guest OS's, it emulates a floppy drive, which contains the tools you can install, don't know how it does it today. (Probably emulates a CD instead)
[12:14] <Arafangion> kay: (Which would mean that it can autorun)
[12:14] <kay> Arafangion: thx for the tip i search
[12:14] <kimmern> kay: I just get "stop: Unknown host"
[12:16] <kay> kimmern: then do first ifconfig eth0
[12:16] <kay> kimmern: what did he say?
[12:17] <intelikey> no body care to discuss my question ?
[12:17] <kay> intelikey: i read it but i cant help you sorry
[12:17] <intelikey> k ok
[12:18] <kay> intelikey: and i dont realy understand your question
[12:18] <kay> intelikey: did you mean /usr is renamed in / and /bin in /sbin?
[12:18] <kimmern> kay: too much to paste into here..but it looks normal..like normal, like i'm not connected to anything on eth0..
[12:18] <intelikey> kay no is a symlink
[12:19] <intelikey> like   cd /usr ;pwd    yelds /
[12:21] <intelikey> and ls -ld /usr   yelds  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   14 Sep 16 04:53 usr -> /
[12:21] <kay> intelikey: sorry thats to high for me :-(
[12:23] <intelikey> ok but if you are ever curious about links/symlinks  do a quick    man ln
[12:23] <kay> intelikey: lol k
[12:27] <Tabmow> What's the best packages to d/l for kbuntu where i can play xvid/divx/mpg etc. ?
[12:28] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[12:28] <Bubba_Gump> Tabmow: kaffiene
[12:28] <Bubba_Gump> Tabmow: or vlc
[12:28] <intelikey> !mp3
[12:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:29] <Bubba_Gump> Tabmow: yeah check out the first link, you might need to install some codecs :)
[12:32] <intelikey> ok i have now a working ubuntu with no actual /sbin or /usr dir.   it seems to work ok.
[12:33] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: curious
[12:34] <intelikey> symbolic links are handy....  :)
[12:34] <Voker57[away] > hi all!
[12:35] <Voker57[away] > Is kubuntu ok to be on one CD?
[12:35] <intelikey> Voker57[away]
[12:35] <intelikey> of course.
[12:35] <Voker57[away] > good
[12:36] <intelikey> the install cd is just the basic system plus the gui/desktop and a few apps.  everything else subsequently added is from the internet.
[12:37] <Voker57[away] > Well...just like windows?
[12:37] <Voker57[away] > Or some system files are not shipped? :0
[12:37] <kay> Arafangion: thx it work
[12:37] <kay> s
[12:38] <intelikey> system files ?    coreutils and bsdutils are on the cd.
[12:38] <intelikey> i think textutils also
[12:38] <intelikey> that makes up the bulk of "system files"
[12:40] <Voker57[away] > well, what i need to get more?
[12:40] <Voker57[away] > then
[12:40] <intelikey> need ?   nothing really.   but what will you want more ?
[12:40] <Voker57[away] > everything else subsequently added is from the internet.
[12:41] <Voker57[away] > you said
[12:41] <intelikey> Voker57[away]  yes.     there are about 18000 packages ready to install from the repositories (internet)
[12:41] <intelikey> need != want
[12:41] <Voker57[away] > ah
[12:44] <intelikey> some people want "wine"   or maybe  "prorpitary codecs"   for multimedia support.      some wish to use there linux system in a cluster and therefore want "cluster support software"    some want "alternate applications" for doing the same tasks as the default install.....
[12:44] <Voker57[away] > yeah i see
[12:45] <niktaris> where can I find the bootoptions (preseed) to use in (k)ubuntu ?
[12:46] <intelikey> niktaris bootoptions ?   /boot/grub/menu.lst   and/or  the scripts contained in the /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` file.
[12:47] <wildchild> how do I enable sensors for temperatures with GkrellM ?
[12:48] <kay> lm sensors i think
[12:48] <kay> lm-sensors
[12:48] <niktaris> intelikey, I want to some keyboard values in xorg.conf.
[12:48] <kay> wildchild: do you know deepsea???
[12:49] <wildchild> no..
[12:49] <kay> wildchild: k its only a name in a clan you have the same name lol sorry
[12:49] <kay> wildchild: do you want have your sensors on?
[12:49] <wildchild> yews
[12:49] <wildchild> yes*
[12:50] <wildchild> kay: how do I do that?
[12:50] <intelikey> niktaris syntax error.
[12:52] <intelikey> "I want to some keyboard values in xorg.conf."    <--- i could say "hey that's great" or even say "your statement pretains to what exactly?"    but i assume you were trying to ask about how to do something.....
[12:53] <kay> wildchild: look for lm-sensors
[12:53] <kay> cant brb
[12:54] <intelikey> niktaris perhaps you are looking for    /etc/X11/xkb/*   ?
[12:54] <niktaris> intelikey, ok. How do I preseed  Option     "XkbLayout"  and  Option     "XkbOptions"  in xorg.conf ?
[12:57] <vogelfaull> why
[12:57] <octan> why? why what?
[12:57] <intelikey> niktaris ah...  ok  now i see.    niktaris i would generally advise running    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg           it makes a backup copy of your current xorg.conf and allows setting of keyboard options       much safer than editing it by hand.
[12:58] <vogelfaull> why
[12:58] <Arafangion> intelikey: Not neccessarily.
[12:58] <intelikey> niktaris that's not a boot process per' se
[12:58] <Arafangion> intelikey: It only does so if the xorg.conf has not been modified, but presumeably, if you modified it, hopefully you were smart enough to actually read the comments on the top of the file :)
[12:59] <vogelfaull> why
[12:59] <niktaris> intelikey, I was thinking on using it on the livecd
[12:59] <vogelfaull> why
[12:59] <octan> why
[12:59] <octan> why why
[12:59] <vogelfaull> octan sucks
[01:00] <intelikey> Arafangion point noted.    it's time for me to go fix the election.
[01:00] <vogelfaull> thats nice
[01:01] <octan> i know :P
[01:01] <vogelfaull> thanks
[01:01] <h3sp4wn> until dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is feature complete some hand editing will often be necessary
[01:01] <vogelfaull> why
[01:01] <octan> np.. i do wha  i can :P
[01:01] <octan> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:01] <vogelfaull> why
[01:02] <h3sp4wn> You cannot set alot the options
[01:02] <vogelfaull> why
[01:02] <octan> why not
[01:02] <vogelfaull> because youre a sucker
[01:03] <octan> SO now you dont like my sucking... damn
[01:03] <Voker57> what a wonderful discussion
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> For example how do you set Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
[01:03] <vogelfaull> why
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> vogelfaull: You are a pretty dull bot
[01:05] <octan> hehe
[01:05] <vogelfaull> and you are gay
[01:05] <vogelfaull> thanks
[01:05] <octan> np
[01:08] <mikel28> anyone know a good site ripper? :)
[01:08] <octan> yea
[01:08] <octan> wget
[01:08] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: ugh!
[01:08] <mikel28> http://wwwaddress../download.php?id=856   <<i got these kinda php links on the sites
[01:09] <octan> mikel28, wget
[01:09] <mikel28> you sure, i tried wget - but it didnt dload the php links...
[01:09] <octan> how ?
[01:09] <mikel28> wget -mirror
[01:10] <DarthLappy> Good evening.
[01:11] <octan> well.. you can alwatys save the pages manualy by saving then with konqueror
[01:11] <mikel28> octan.. thats no option, im talking about hunderds of files
[01:11] <octan> lol- ok
[01:11] <octan> gimme add-- and i'll try
[01:11] <DarthLappy> I recently rebooted my desktop which has WiFi, and the card is now not detected. How could I fix this? (It was working fine before)
[01:13] <mikel28> ive send you a pm octan :')
[01:13] <octan> ok
[01:14] <mikel28> octan: you know that you cant write back if ur nick is not registered with freenode right?
[01:14] <Voker57> Can kubuntu ran on NTFS? :)
[01:14] <octan> my nick is reged
[01:15] <apokryphos> Voker57: no
[01:15] <Voker57> *run
[01:15] <Voker57> hm
[01:15] <apokryphos> NTFS is MS proprietary
[01:15] <Voker57> so do i need to make a non-allocated space on disk?
[01:15] <apokryphos> Linux can't even write to it properly
[01:15] <apokryphos> Voker57: yes, though the install should automagically do that for you
[01:15] <apokryphos> and it'll ask you to confirm
[01:16] <Voker57> It will resize my ?NTFS partiton to gett free space>?
[01:16] <apokryphos> right
[01:16] <Voker57> damn, my kb...
[01:16] <Voker57> good
[01:16] <Voker57> and can it write on FAT#@?
[01:16] <Voker57> 32
[01:16] <apokryphos> still, don't just keep pressing next -- you want to make sure that it got it right
[01:16] <apokryphos> it can write to vfat, yes, but not run on it
[01:16] <Voker57> good
[01:16] <apokryphos> ext3 is Ubuntu's default filesystem
[01:16] <Voker57> i will convert to it then
[01:16] <apokryphos> k
[01:17] <Voker57> wowee, ISO is downloaded
[01:17] <lupa> hi.. i upgrade to 6.10 and have some problems with audacity and xmms ... menus don't appear and audacity y recording very bad.
[01:18] <lupa> any idea?
[01:18] <octan> mikel28,
[01:20] <TheFuzzball> Hello, I am running Kubuntu 6.10 with Amarok 1.4.4 (I had this problem with 1.4.3 so it is not an upgrade problem) with KDE 3.5.5, the problem is when I run amarok as a normal user and play an mp3 track it comes up with a popup window that asks me to install mp3 support and then it crashes, but when I run it as root I don't have any problem, I would really like this fixed
[01:20] <apokryphos> TheFuzzball: check the FAQ, do you have the necessary codecs installed?
[01:20] <apokryphos> and did you install them properly
[01:21] <sadistic_kitten> nino I'm back
[01:21] <sadistic_kitten> are you still awake?
[01:21] <nino> sadistic_kitten: did u manage?
[01:22] <sadistic_kitten> yes I had to reboot and close a few things but I finally got in
[01:22] <TheFuzzball> apokryphos: yes, I can run it as root
[01:22] <sadistic_kitten> what did you want me to do?
[01:22] <sadistic_kitten> from here that is
[01:22] <sadistic_kitten> I'm in administrator mode
[01:22] <nino> sadistic_kitten: so you can see your hardrive and the partitions?
[01:23] <sadistic_kitten> yu[
[01:23] <sadistic_kitten> *yup
[01:23] <nino> sadistic_kitten: how many are there?
[01:23] <apokryphos> TheFuzzball: close amarok down, then mv ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok{,_old} && mv ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc{,_old}   (as user), then restart amarok
[01:24] <sadistic_kitten> 3
[01:24] <nino> sadistic_kitten: can you see the swap?
[01:24] <sadistic_kitten> yup
[01:25] <nino> sadistic_kitten: is it enabled?
[01:25] <sadistic_kitten> nope
[01:25] <sadistic_kitten> and when I try it says invalid argument
[01:26] <nino> what does it say under device /dev/hda??
[01:26] <TheFuzzball> apokryphos: still the same
[01:27] <sadistic_kitten> there is /dev/sda1 (swap) /dev/sda2 (home) and /dev/sda3 (/)
[01:27] <apokryphos> TheFuzzball: dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs?
[01:27] <Schalken> which linux-restricted-modules package do i need to download to install the nvidia drivers?
[01:28] <TheFuzzball> apokryphos: same :)
[01:28] <nino> sadistic_kitten: I would suggest to eddit fstab and disabling that swap line and inserting this one, hold on....
[01:28] <apokryphos> TheFuzzball: no, as in, what's the output of that?
[01:29] <TheFuzzball> apokryphos: I'll pastebin it
[01:30] <nino> sadistic_kitten: /dev/sda1 none swap sw 0 0   dissable that funny one of yours with a # in front of it!!
[01:30] <sadistic_kitten> k
[01:31] <nino> sadistic_kitten: then open the console
[01:32] <sadistic_kitten> yup
[01:32] <sadistic_kitten> swapon -a?
[01:32] <nino> sadistic_kitten: sudo mount -a
[01:33] <rocka> i know it is a silly question
[01:33] <nino> sadistic_kitten: remount everything in fstab = mount -a
[01:33] <sadistic_kitten> k
[01:33] <rocka> but what is faster, kde or gnome ?
[01:33] <sadistic_kitten> I did
[01:33] <sadistic_kitten> probably gnome
[01:33] <apokryphos> rocka: don't trust anyone's answer :)
[01:34] <nino> sadistic_kitten: mabe you need a boot donno with swap?
[01:34] <sadistic_kitten> rocka: I use kde cause I like it, but I think gnome might be faster.
[01:34] <sadistic_kitten> nino: reboot ?
[01:34] <nino> sadistic_kitten: lets try that!!!
[01:34] <sadistic_kitten> k
[01:34] <sadistic_kitten> brb
[01:34] <nino> sadistic_kitten: goodluck
[01:38] <zenga>
[01:38] <zenga>
[01:38] <zenga>
[01:38] <zenga>
[01:39] <scheuri> anyone using 3Ware controllers (9550 or 9650) with 6.06 Dapper (32bit) and having issues?
[01:39] <scheuri> wow, I love UTF-8...no idea what zenga was talking about, but I saw the wirting
[01:39] <sadistic_kitten> nope
[01:39] <sadistic_kitten> didn't work
[01:40] <sadistic_kitten> I don't think fstab is the prob
[01:41] <rocka> lol kubuntu seens a bit slower to boot than gnome, but the desktop is a lot faster
[01:42] <houssem> how to see my computers activities on my network ?
[01:42] <nino> sadistic_kitten: damn well that was my idea, i would suggest edditing the partion tables and deleting and creating a new swap then, but that can be dangerous!!
[01:43] <sadistic_kitten> ok, what's the worst that can happen?
[01:43] <nino> sadistic_kitten: if you delete your root partition!!
[01:43] <rocka> i am having problems with the system clock, it is ahead 200 seconds per day... is it a problem with the bateries ?
[01:44] <sadistic_kitten> I think I can distinguish between the two
[01:44] <visik7> is there a way to get a packetized version of ipw3945 (eg via module-assistant) without restricted?
[01:45] <nino> sadistic_kitten: i am only fimiliar with gparted, have you got that installed?
[01:45] <sadistic_kitten> I dunno
[01:45] <sadistic_kitten> hold on I'm talking to other people
[01:46] <nino> sadistic_kitten: ok cool
[01:47] <houssem> please how to monitor all activities on my network ?
[01:54] <houssem> halloooo ???!!!!!
[01:54] <houssem> anyone here ??
[01:54] <rocka> no, you are seeing 300 bots
[01:54] <rocka> why ?
[01:55] <houssem> i want a program to monitor my network activities
[01:55] <sadistic_kitten> so nino
[01:55] <sadistic_kitten> guess what
[01:55] <rocka> houssem apt-get install iptraf
[01:55] <sadistic_kitten> swap is now working :P
[01:56] <houssem> rocka: thnks
[01:57] <houssem> rocka:  it can report all activies done by all computers on my LAN ?
[01:57] <sadistic_kitten> nino: swap is working :P
[01:57] <Schalken> which linux-restricted-modules package do i need to download to install the nvidia drivers?
[01:58] <sadistic_kitten> nino: this is what someone told me to use
[01:58] <sadistic_kitten> sudo mkswap /dev/sda1 ; swapon /dev/sda1
[01:58] <sadistic_kitten> and it just worked
[01:59] <sadistic_kitten> I am very pleased and am now off to bed, thanks for your help anyway
[02:00] <j2daosh> say i want to have my kids log in on the edubuntu session... is there a config i can set that will automatically log them into that when they log in?
[02:01] <salman> hi
[02:01] <j2daosh> hey
[02:01] <ubuntu> hi
[02:01] <salman> ho
[02:01] <ubuntu> it's Voker57 ;)
[02:01] <abattoir> j2daosh: i think edubuntu uses GDM, i'm not sure where GDM's configurations can be changed, can you try asking in #ubuntu or #edubuntu?
[02:02] <j2daosh> ty
[02:07] <ubuntu_> hello .. i am new to kubuntu and i want to import the media from my windows partition into the kubuntu partition. Can anybody help meoooon how to do this?
[02:07] <abattoir> ubuntu_: what type of media?
[02:08] <abattoir> ubuntu_: you can mount the partition(if it already isn't mounted) and just copy stuff over
[02:08] <ubuntu_> how can i mount it?
[02:08] <ubuntu_> can u point me to some resource?
[02:08] <abattoir> ubuntu_: type media:/ in konqueror
[02:08] <abattoir> ubuntu_: do you see your windows partition?
[02:09] <ubuntu_> no!
[02:09] <abattoir> ubuntu_: you see nothing? and what is the fs type for your windows partition, ntfs?
[02:09] <ubuntu_> yes
[02:09] <abattoir> ubuntu_: yes for what? you see nothing? ntfs?
[02:10] <ubuntu_> ntfs and i see nothing ..
[02:10] <ubuntu_> yes for both
[02:11] <abattoir> ubuntu_: hmm you are in the live cd?
[02:11] <[GuS] > Bonjour...
[02:11] <ubuntu_> yes i am
[02:12] <ubuntu_> so is that not possible from the live cd?
[02:12] <abattoir> ubuntu_: SATA by any chance? and could you briefly tell me your partition layout?
[02:12] <abattoir> ubuntu_: no it's possible
[02:13] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: If you want to do that you would have to use knoppix / kanotix
[02:14] <ubuntu_> hey ... i forgot to mention .. i was following a blog from the net and am using the vmvare software to get used to kubuntu .. is it possible to test how my media will play in kubuntu?
[02:14] <abattoir> ubuntu_: oh no wonder then, you can use the live cd to 'test run' kubuntu w/o virtualization
[02:15] <ubuntu_> so it does not mess up my windows?
[02:15] <abattoir> ubuntu_: no, you just put the cd in your computer, and boot off it, you can access your windows files etc., but ofcourse that's only for 'getting a feel' of it or for installation
[02:16] <abattoir> ubuntu_: during installation, if you partition properly, kubuntu will automatically detect your windows installation and create a multiboot scenario
[02:16] <abattoir> ubuntu_: so when you start your computer you'll be asked if you want to use windows or kubuntu
[02:17] <ubuntu_> cool .. one more question though..
[02:18] <abattoir> ubuntu_: sure, ask
[02:18] <ubuntu_> i have an unpartitioned dell laptop with 100gb hard disk. can some how make two partitions on it so that my windows remians the same and i will be able to install kubuntu on the new partition created?
[02:18] <ubuntu_> can i*
[02:18] <abattoir> ubuntu_: yes it's possible
[02:18] <nino> ubuntu_ : yes
[02:19] <ubuntu_> can i know how?
[02:19] <abattoir> ubuntu_: you can either use a windows tool to partition before hand, or you can use the kubuntu installer to do it before it installs kubuntu
[02:19] <aleale> hi, I need help configuring a wireless with two router, the first router has the dsl connection, the second on is the wireless one, I attach the dsl router to the wireless router in the wan port and I attach the notebook to the wireless router, but I canno have internet... someone can help me?
[02:20] <ubuntu_> so if i got this right .. a partition will be made when i am installing kubuntu . . and i will have my windows functioning normally .. with out any loss of data?
[02:21] <nino> ubuntu_ : thats right
[02:21] <abattoir> ubuntu_: when you get to the partitioning stage of the installation, read the instructions carefully, make sure you choose to partition manually(the default option is to wipe your harddisk)
[02:22] <abattoir> ubuntu_: once you select the 'Manually Partition...' option, you'd be asked to allocate space for kubuntu
[02:22] <aleale> anyon?
[02:22] <ubuntu_> can i know how that is possible? aren't the files scattered throughout the disk?
[02:23] <ubuntu_> i have 40 gb free so can i use 30 gb of free space from that for kubuntu?
[02:23] <rocka> kubuntu didnt detect the swap partition ...
[02:23] <rocka> ubotu_ 2.4gb minimum
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 2.4gb minimum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <nino> rocka: u haven trouble with swap?
[02:24] <abattoir> ubuntu_: you could defragment it if you want to, but i'm not sure if it's necessary for ntfs. Yes, you can do that
[02:25] <rahmetli> is it possible to get some rss feed as screensaver on kubuntu?
[02:25] <rocka> nino setup didnt detect swap
[02:25] <nino> rocka: u done installing the system?
[02:25] <drarem> yep, had to log off and back on to see a ton of stuff i've been installing
[02:25] <ubuntu_> ohh .. its cool then .. i will definitely do that now .. and if there are problems .. i know where to ask ..
[02:25] <ubuntu_> thanks again guys ..
[02:26] <rocka> nino it says install crashed
[02:26] <nino> ubuntu : read carefully!!
[02:26] <aleale> hi, I need help configuring a wireless with two router, the first router has the dsl connection, the second on is the wireless one, I attach the dsl router to the wireless router in the wan port and I attach the notebook to the wireless router, but I canno have internet... someone can help me?
[02:26] <rocka> nino i tried it on vmware, i will post a SS of the crash
[02:26] <aleale> I don't have internet connection at all with two routers
[02:27] <nino> ubuntu : donno about vmware and swap!!
[02:27] <rahmetli> is it possible to get some rss feed as screensaver on kubuntu?
[02:27] <h3sp4wn> aleale: what routers ?
[02:27] <drarem> why two routers - out of ports?
[02:27] <aleale> h3sp4wn: I have one router with dsl modem inside
[02:27] <aleale> and i connected it to a wireless router throught wan port
[02:27] <aleale> is it correct?
[02:28] <h3sp4wn> Depends
[02:28] <nino> rocka: vmware and swap, dont know how compatible it is??
[02:28] <rocka> it worked just fine with debian
[02:28] <aleale> h3sp4wn: I want that router wireless take internet from the other router and give it to the clients connected to it
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> aleale: depends on whether the router has decent firmware or not
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> aleale: what you can do
[02:29] <nino> rocka: mabe try install without swap and create a swap after, that i can help you with!!
[02:29] <aleale> h3sp4wn: do you mean the wirelesee one?
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> aleale: either
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> aleale: Ideally both
[02:30] <nino> rocka: sudo mkswap /dev/"your Hardrive"
[02:30] <FuriousGeorge> hey all.  i usually use gentoo, and have very little debian-like-distro experience, so bear with me...
[02:30] <aleale> the dsl one is a Pirelli netgate voip
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> rocka: if you do the above it will make swap on your whole harddrive
[02:30] <aleale> but with a branded firmware
[02:31] <rocka> http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6561/kubuntucrashth2.jpg
[02:31] <aleale> tell me what I have to do I can see if is it possible
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> aleale: I don't know other than with linux based firmwares
[02:31] <nino> rocka: sorry that partition that you wanna swap
[02:31] <FuriousGeorge> im following beryl wiki guide to installing their wm, and ive added their servers to my server.lst file, synched my package management db, then tried to apt get beryl, and got a "no such package"
[02:31] <FuriousGeorge> is there something i need to do besides messing with my repositories so that apt get will find the package?
[02:31] <nino> h3sp4wn: sorry bout that one
[02:32] <rocka> nino http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6561/kubuntucrashth2.jpg
[02:32] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: i hope you added it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <Soldier1991> Hi.
[02:32] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: if you did that, did you run 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> nino: Wouldn't affect me but potential for some damage
[02:33] <aleale> h3sp4wn: ok, then tell me if is it ok->router with internet should go to the wan link in the wireless router isn't?
[02:33] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: you thats what i meant not server.lst, but sources.list
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> aleale: why wan link the wan link is the adsl modem
[02:33] <nino> h3sp4wn: yea it would make that whole partition swap, dint think there !!
[02:33] <dude_> hello guys !
[02:33] <Soldier1991> I recently installed kubuntu with my ati radeon 9250, i tried the tutorial on how to install it, but it didn't seem like it worked for me, or the drivers don't support my graphics card.
[02:33] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: and which architecture?
[02:33] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: yeah i added deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main aiglx and another host there
[02:34] <aleale> h3sp4wn: ah ok so in the switch link?
[02:34] <dude_> abattoir !
[02:34] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: x86_64
[02:34] <Soldier1991> Any ideas?
[02:34] <aleale> but the router is also an adsl modem
[02:34] <Soldier1991> I always get this fatal error 101 or something everytime i try to startx.
[02:34] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: oh no wonder, i think you need dapper-amd64, wait let me confirm
[02:34] <nino> rocka: xfs filesystem??
[02:34] <rocka> nino did you see the image ?
[02:34] <abattoir> hello dude_
[02:34] <rocka> yes
[02:35] <Soldier1991> Please help.
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> aleale: You probably want the wifi clients bridged into the main routers switch (no idea how to that on {some random closed firmware}
[02:35] <drarem> for dialog editing and c/c++ ide, what is a recommended tool
[02:35] <nino> rocka: any reason for xfs filesystem??
[02:35] <rocka> is not it fast ?
[02:35] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: if you are refering to the "flavor" of kubuntu, thats the one i chose
[02:35] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: no, i think you need to specify the arch. as well
[02:35] <nino> rocka: ext3 just as good
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> aleale: really you want to reconfigure your wan port so it is just another switch port otherwise its wasted
[02:36] <rocka> nino i saw some benchmarks, ext3 is not so good :b
[02:36] <faLUCE_> drarem gtk+ (c), gtkmm (c++) glade (both)
[02:36] <aldin> why are font bigger after apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:36] <faLUCE_> glade is the ide
[02:36] <aldin> *fonts
[02:36] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: i have 'deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main-edgy main-edgy-amd64'
[02:36] <aldin> dpi?
[02:36] <drarem> thanks
[02:36] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: i guess you'll need to change edgy to dapper
[02:36] <faLUCE_> (for gui)
[02:36] <Soldier1991> Okay, I really need help with this.
[02:37] <nino> rocka: well i run it on surveilance system 400gig on gigabit ip cams and no problem!!
[02:37] <aldin> why are font bigger after apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx + xorg.conf Driver "fglrx"
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> aleale: You only want the dhcp server working on the adsl router - (then because of the wifi bridged into the first switch all clients will use that)
[02:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy All!
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> aleale: But there are at least four of 5 different ways to do it
[02:37] <rocka> nino is the filesystem the cause of my problem ?
[02:38] <aleale> h3sp4wn: ok
[02:38] <nino> rocka: ok mabe we should try and make 2 partitions xfs and anyting else to make swap later??
[02:38] <aleale> it works attaching all to the switch to the wirelesee router
[02:38] <Soldier1991> Okay?
[02:38] <Soldier1991> I recently installed kubuntu with my ati radeon 9250, i tried the tutorial on how to install it, but it didn't seem like it worked for me, or the drivers don't support my graphics card.
[02:38] <nino> rocka: can you edit the partitions manualy??
[02:38] <Soldier1991> I always get this fatal error 101 or something everytime i try to startx.
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> aleale: Are all the clients wireless ?
[02:39] <aleale> h3sp4wn: no, I attached the pc AND the other router to the switch in the router wireless
[02:39] <aleale> and it works!
[02:39] <nino> rocka: so make xfs the big one for all the files
[02:39] <aleale> ok now I have to configure my wireless pcmpci card
[02:40] <BluesKaj> aldin, check your screen resolution in /systemsettings/monitor&display/size
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> aleale: I think you should consider what you are actually doing first if you have 2 dhcp servers running on the same subnet you will have problems
[02:42] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: i think i need to change the installation to edgy...  is that what you meant?  i dont believe there is a repository for dapper-amd64
[02:42] <aldin> BluesKaj: what do u mean exactly, on font size or..
[02:42] <aleale> h3sp4wn: yes one should be disabled
[02:43] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: no i just said you might need to change 'edgy' to 'dapper' in the entry that i pasted
[02:43] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: i had to append edgy-main-amd64 for it to recognize amd64 packages
[02:43] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: i tried that and apt-gett update complained about it
[02:43] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: wait a sec
[02:45] <leleobhz> hello all
[02:45] <leleobhz> ive tried to install kubuntu on my note
[02:45] <leleobhz> and on the partition secction
[02:46] <leleobhz> ive destroyed an xfs partition to make root
[02:46] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[02:46] <BluesKaj> no aldin , your scren res may have been reset to a lower res after installing/upgrading the drivers
[02:46] <leleobhz> but they show the label of partition on hda7 (my old home)
[02:46] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: it's main-amd64
[02:46] <leleobhz> and hda6 as unknown
[02:46] <leleobhz> and my home doesnt mount
[02:46] <h3sp4wn> leleobhz: alternative cd should be able to install to xfs (definately with an ext3 /boot anyway)
[02:46] <leleobhz> h3sp4wn: i dont want to install at xfs
[02:46] <aleale2> ok I have an asus wl-100g
[02:47] <leleobhz> ive removed one to put ext3
[02:47] <leleobhz> but it makes it on another partition
[02:47] <h3sp4wn> ext3 is slow
[02:47] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: i was looking at that page before where do you see main-amd64?
[02:47] <leleobhz> whatever....
[02:47] <leleobhz> h3sp4wn: my problem isnt the fs
[02:47] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: it says If you use amd64, add ' main-edgy-amd64' to the end of the line (so it reads 'main-edgy main-edgy-amd64')
[02:47] <leleobhz> is my hda7 are damaged
[02:47] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: the last line in DAPPER DRAKE instructions
[02:47] <leleobhz> and its my home on another distro
[02:47] <leleobhz> and i need it
[02:47] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: that's for edgy, look above
[02:48] <leleobhz> so, how can i recover it?
[02:48] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: my bad, i saw the url and thought that one was for compiz
[02:48] <h3sp4wn> leleobhz: so hda7 is not a filesystem ? (I don't understand)
[02:48] <FuriousGeorge> brain fart
[02:48] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: how can _I understand if my wireless card is recognized? kubuntu has added eth1 to the networks
[02:48] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: iwlist eth1 scan
[02:48] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: you were asking for beryl weren't you?
[02:49] <aleale2> no scan results, leds are off in the pcmpci
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: Maybe it needs firmware
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: what chipset is it ?
[02:50] <leleobhz> h3sp4wn: seee
[02:50] <leleobhz> hda7 == /home (on another system)
[02:50] <leleobhz> hda6 == xfs partition - target for ext3 for another distro
[02:50] <h3sp4wn> with a damaged filesystem
[02:50] <leleobhz> notting
[02:50] <leleobhz> all normal
[02:50] <leleobhz> however
[02:50] <h3sp4wn> leleobhz> h3sp4wn: my problem isnt the fs == exactly a problem with the filesystem on hda7
[02:51] <leleobhz> after the hda6 format as ext3
[02:51] <leleobhz> it have damaged the hda7
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> I doubt it
[02:51] <leleobhz> setting the label and now i cant mount it
[02:51] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: how can I check it?
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> leleobhz: is hda7 xfs ?
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: card model and manufacturer and google
[02:52] <leleobhz> not
[02:52] <leleobhz> !
[02:52] <leleobhz> hda7 is ext3 with myu home
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> sudo mount /dev/hda7 /mnt does not work ?
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> run fsck
[02:55] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: with kubuntu only wep is possible? not also wpa2?
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: zcat /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz | less
[02:55] <drarem> i just deleted about 5Gb of stuff, do i need to do a defrag and if so how
[02:56] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: apt get doesnt complain but same error.  mind taking a look at this?  http://www.patebin.ca/242598    <---  thats what it looks like on my end
[02:56] <h3sp4wn> drarem: Shouldn't need to (but you can defrag if you first convert ext3 to ext2 and then use e2defrag
[02:56] <Linux_Galore> drarem: this a Linux or windows partition
[02:56] <Linux_Galore> you dont defrag ext3
[02:57] <drarem> linux
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> drarem: dont worry about it
[02:57] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: * i meant http://www.pastebin.ca/242598
[02:57] <drarem>  /dev/hda2 - deleted from my $HOME folder
[02:57] <drarem> ok thanks
[02:57] <drarem> $HOME path
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> drarem: if you really want to (I have once when I had a 320gb partition which has been completely rammed for half a year) turn off the journal and use e2defrag
[02:59] <aldin> BluesKaj: no, my resolution is same as it was, but after installing an putting fglrx on kubuntu my fonts are bit bigger
[02:59] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[02:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:59] <BluesKaj> just a bit ...that's not so bad
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: You need the firmware
[03:00] <Schalken> What I try to run a certain Amarok lyric script it says "You need one of QtRuby, RubyGTK or TkRuby to run this program" but I cant find any of those in the repos. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[03:00] <Linux_Galore> aldin: is because the sync rate has changed a bit
[03:00] <aldin> BluesKaj: but do u know why
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: use the bcm43xx link - (and download the firmware for edgy - (don't try to use fwcutter as it won't work on 2.6.17 kernels)
[03:00] <aldin> i havent changed anything but fglr except ati in xorg.conf file
[03:01] <aldin> *ati->fglrx
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> aldin: the driver has a different default sync speed, I get the same with nvidia
[03:01] <h3sp4wn> aldin: One or the other may have had composite enabled
[03:01] <aldin> i am using LCD on laptop so sync doesn matter
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> aldin: just adjust you fonts to suite
[03:01] <BluesKaj> no aldin, sorry
[03:02] <ubuntu> hi
[03:02] <aldin> note on ubuntu it is not changing only on kubuntu?
[03:02] <ubuntu> how to check a disk in kubuntu?
[03:02] <aldin> ubuntu: df -Th
[03:02] <ubuntu> um
[03:02] <ubuntu> where to write it
[03:02] <aldin> konsole
[03:02] <Linux_Galore> aldin: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same base system, even Xorg is exactly the same
[03:03] <aldin> Linux_Galore: i know that bothers me
[03:03] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: i'm not sure if you need to add aiglx as well, after main and main-amd64
[03:03] <aldin> do u know any file which xolds info about dpi?
[03:03] <ubuntu> and what then
[03:03] <aldin> of fonts
[03:03] <ubuntu> id displays a bunch of things
[03:03] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: i think someone at #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl might be able to assist you better
[03:03] <aldin> ubuntu: what exactly u want to check size etc
[03:03] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: so I have to run the script?
[03:03] <abattoir> FuriousGeorge: from what i can see it seems right
[03:03] <Linux_Galore> aldin: you may have a different default dpi setting in kde, dont forget kde 3.5.5 can over ride some of the defaults in xorg
[03:04] <FuriousGeorge> abattoir: thanks for your help
[03:04] <ubuntu> i want to check disk for errors
[03:04] <aldin> once i foiund in mandriva file which keeps fonts dpi configuration u could put 75 or 96
[03:04] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: You have to read the docs#
[03:05] <Linux_Galore> aldin: thats the system default but kde can do its own thing
[03:05] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: Ask me specific questions about the documentation I will answer
[03:05] <aldin> how do we change it in kde
[03:05] <ubuntu> hey aldin
[03:05] <Linux_Galore> aldin: should be in kcontrol
[03:05] <aldin> system kinfocenter
[03:05] <dude_> abattoir: can i play warcraft in kubuntu?
[03:05] <aldin> xserver says
[03:05] <ubuntu> how to check a disk for errors??
[03:05] <aldin> 115
[03:06] <aldin> ubuntu: sorry i dont know chkdisk
[03:06] <aldin> perhaps chkdisk
[03:06] <aldin> 118x115
[03:06] <abattoir> dude_: i think you can w/ wine
[03:06] <Linux_Galore> Im out
[03:06] <aldin> and on 3d driver was 75x75
[03:06] <ubuntu> there is no such a command
[03:06] <abattoir> dude_: not sure though
[03:07] <aldin> *pardon on at standard 2D driver was 75X75
[03:07] <leleobhz> someone have any idea/
[03:07] <leleobhz> my system now: http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/2394/foto110706001vt6.jpg
[03:07] <aldin> now with fglrx in xorg.conf i have 118x115
[03:08] <aldin> now with fglrx in xorg.conf i have kinfocentar shows 118x115
[03:08] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: you give me a link that say to install the fwcutter, but you say to not do it... so?
[03:08] <aldin> how do i "down" it on 75x75
[03:09] <Tm_T> Soldier1991: You should not irc as root.
[03:10] <Tm_T> Or do anything you don't have to.
[03:10] <Soldier1991> How about now?
[03:10] <Soldier1991> I kniow.
[03:10] <nino> :)
[03:10] <Tm_T> Soldier1991: No, changing nick doesn't change rights in your system. ;)
[03:10] <Soldier1991> So how do I change my name?
[03:10] <dude_> abattoir: can i load an mp3 using katapult?
[03:11] <Tm_T> Soldier1991: Don't run irc client as root? ;)
[03:11] <letalis> good morning all
[03:11] <Tm_T> Login to your system as normal user and then launch the client. ;)
[03:11] <nino> good afternoon
[03:11] <abattoir> dude_: there were some amarok-katapult issues, i don't know if they've been fixed yet
[03:11] <abattoir> dude_: someone at #katapult may know
[03:12] <aldin> kinfocentar shows 118x115 dpi with fglrx driver i want to put it on 75x75, anyone knows how?
[03:12] <Tm_T> Btw hi kids.
[03:12] <dude_> abattoir: ok, what is KDE (the K Desktop Environment)
[03:12] <aldin> * kinfocenter ->xserver
[03:13] <letalis> yeah there are actually servers thatll bootkick your you know what of of an irc server for having root as your username
[03:13] <letalis> lol
[03:13] <abattoir> hi uncle Tm_T :)
[03:13] <abattoir> :P
[03:13] <Tm_T> letalis: Yup, and that's reasonable.
[03:13] <dude_> abattoir: why is it not installed? i check that in adept
[03:13] <abattoir> dude_: you are serious?
[03:13] <letalis> besides, its stupid.
[03:13] <abattoir> dude_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE
[03:14] <dude_> abattoir: oh god, sorry...heheheh
[03:14] <abattoir> dude_: Kubuntu uses KDE while Ubuntu uses GNOME
[03:14] <Paradox^> i get an error msg when i try to activate my nvidia drivers:
[03:14] <Paradox^> tomas@tomas:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:14] <Paradox^> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[03:14] <Paradox^> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[03:14] <abattoir> dude_: that's where the K comes from
[03:14] <Paradox^> how can i fix that?
[03:14] <dude_> abattoir: oh god, sorry...heheheh
[03:14] <dude_> abattoir: wrong question
[03:14] <dude_> :)
[03:15] <instructor> ok this is strange. My Ethernet cards keep jumping back and forth
[03:15] <orville> has anyone here got a macbook pro and gotten mouseemu to work?
[03:21] <Soldier1991> Hello.
[03:22] <Soldier1991> I just wanted to know, how do I make a new account and log in as the account I created?
[03:22] <instructor> from command line sudo adduser
[03:22] <nino> Soldier1991: (n=root@ool-44c76d4b.dyn.optonline.net). lol
[03:22] <Soldier1991> Don't try to trick me now.
[03:23] <nino> Soldier1991:o sorry thought you already created a account
[03:23] <Soldier1991> I did.
[03:23] <Soldier1991> But I want to log in as it.
[03:23] <Soldier1991> Not as root.
[03:24] <Soldier1991> ANy ideas?
[03:24] <Soldier1991> I want to log in as the created account.
[03:24] <Soldier1991> Not as root.
[03:24] <h3sp4wn> You need to make sure its in the default groups
[03:25] <Soldier1991> How?
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> see the EXTRA_GROUPS= option in /etc/adduser.conf
[03:26] <Soldier1991> I can;t find it.
[03:26] <taess> hola
[03:27] <Soldier1991> The extra group
[03:27] <taess> alguno habla espaol?
[03:27] <Soldier1991> Si.
[03:27] <h3sp4wn> Soldier1991: right at the bottom of the file
[03:27] <dude_> jucato !
[03:27] <Jucato> hi dude_
[03:28] <Soldier1991> Nope, nowhere,
[03:28] <taess> hola soldier
[03:28] <taess> quera hacer una pregunta
[03:28] <taess> pero no sabia si era solo ingles
[03:28] <Jucato> !es
[03:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:28] <taess> ah ok
[03:28] <Soldier1991> I don't see anything that says extra groups in the file.
[03:28] <Soldier1991> Do I have to create it?
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> Or see which groups the user created during the install is in and add the new user to those using vigr and vipw
[03:30] <Soldier1991> That was confusing.
[03:30] <Soldier1991> Is there a way I can enable the log in screen?
[03:30] <ehamberg> What is default on (K)ubuntu Edgy, upstart or sysvinit?
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> Soldier1991: I don't know why you enabled root anyway
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> ehamberg: upstart
[03:30] <Soldier1991> I didn;t.
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> !sudo
[03:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> !root
[03:31] <h3sp4wn> Soldier1991: How did you install ?
[03:31] <enotee> how do you start compiz
[03:31] <h3sp4wn> compiz --replace &
[03:31] <Soldier1991> I installed it with the extra space on my hard drive,
[03:31] <Soldier1991> I created a new partition.
[03:31] <Soldier1991> The it installed itself.
[03:31] <Soldier1991> After that, It told me to enter the username.
[03:32] <Soldier1991> And the password.
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> and you entered root ?
[03:32] <Soldier1991> BNut I can't log in like tghat.
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> I still don't understand how it got so you could login as root
[03:32] <ehamberg> h3sp4wn: So how come adept update manager wants to remove upstart?
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> ehamberg: No idea does aptitude want to remove it ?
[03:33] <dude_> abattoir: are you there?
[03:33] <abattoir> dude_: yes
[03:33] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: ok wireless card is ok, the problem now is configuring the wep key, I have putted the manual configuration into network preferences but no works
[03:33] <aleale2> I have read the bug in edgy for wireless, can I be affected?
[03:34] <dude_> abattoir: question, have you tried connecting ubuntu in active directory of windows server?
[03:34] <instructor> how do I convert a text file to be read on Windows?
[03:34] <abattoir> dude_: no
[03:34] <dude_> abattoir: is it possible?
[03:34] <abattoir> instructor: open it w/ notepad
[03:34] <abattoir> dude_: i'm sorry, i don't know
[03:34] <aleale2> I have no used the dhcp server
[03:35] <dude_> abattoir: ok, thanks
[03:35] <ehamberg> h3sp4wn: Doesn't look like it. Weird...
[03:35] <aleale2> the wireless router say I'm connected
[03:35] <aleale2> but "air" led is off
[03:35] <aleale2> in the pcmci
[03:35] <Dink> Anyone know if there is a feisty channel yet ?
[03:37] <kimmern> Can anyone please help me with this? I think this is why my laptop crashes all the time: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1726172#post1726172
[03:37] <xsacha> Dink: ubuntu+1 ?
[03:38] <Lam_> does KDE have a lost+found folder?  i'm not sure if it is an ext3 thing or a gnome thing
[03:38] <nickenyfiken> i have a problem with Ktorrent, its always stalled and Tracker Status is "Invalid response". Anyone got a clue?
[03:38] <Jucato> it's a Linux thing, afaik, Lam_
[03:38] <Lam_> Jucato: ok thanks. i won't try to remove it then
[03:39] <JohnFlux_> kimmern: i can't think why that would crash your computer
[03:39] <Triple{X}> Lam_: if your system crashes and your filesystem is damaged, the fragments of files that couldn't be recovered are saved in lost+found
[03:39] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: when a card is recognized all i need is configuring it in network prefs isn't?
[03:39] <JohnFlux_> kimmern: run system settings  on the k menu
[03:40] <JohnFlux_> kimmern: and go to the network module
[03:40] <Lam_> Triple{X}: thanks for the info. i'll keep that in mind
[03:40] <kimmern> JohnFlux_: I can't see that there could be anything else..that's always the last thing in the log before it crashes..and i've tried to close all programs, but still atfter a while it crashes...
[03:41] <Triple{X}> Lam_: Normally you don't need to worry about that though
[03:41] <kimmern> JohnFlux_:ok, i'm in..
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: use the wpasupplicant document (all the gui stuff will just give you problems)
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: the bcm43xx driver is not that stable as it is
[03:41] <JohnFlux_> kimmern: then just edit the properties for eth0 and make sure the checkbox for start automatically is turned off
[03:41] <JohnFlux_> kimmern: then disable that device
[03:41] <soldier174> Okay,.
[03:41] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: I have switched to wep
[03:41] <kimmern> JohnFlux_: ok, thanks!
[03:41] <soldier174> I still don't know how to enable the log in screen.
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: wep is useless
[03:42] <JohnFlux_> aleale2: like h3sp4wn says - wep is trivial to crack
[03:42] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: run aircrack-ng (and it will prove to you just how useless it is)
[03:43] <soldier174> Any ideas?
[03:43] <dhuv> hello all
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> soldier174: What log ?
[03:43] <soldier174> You know when you have to log in to get into the desktop?
[03:43] <kimmern> JohnFlux_: ok, stupid problem here, but when I press the "Administrator mode" button, the box just get a red empty frame...
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> what is that to with screen
[03:43] <h3sp4wn>  ?
[03:44] <soldier174> I can't do that with the account I created.
[03:44] <soldier174> I want to log in with the account I created.
[03:44] <dhuv> I have installed kubuntu 6.10 on my T42 last night and it works great, everything works, the icons are nicer, the defaults make more sense, great distro.
[03:44] <soldier174> Not as root.
[03:44] <JohnFlux_> kimmern: check if theres a window behind
[03:44] <JohnFlux_> kimmern: there should be a dialog box asking for the password
[03:45] <soldier174> Please help.
[03:45] <aleale2> H
[03:45] <kimmern> JohnFlux_: There's nothing...tried a couple of times..maybe i'll just restart and try..?
[03:45] <aleale2> JohnFlux: I know...
[03:45] <JohnFlux_> kimmern:  :/
[03:45] <hastesaver> soldier174, you can't login as root. You shouldn't do that; it's very dangerous
[03:46] <JohnFlux_> kimmern:  i dont know
[03:46] <dhuv> I had Debian testing installed previously and I used debian-multimedia.org for multimedia packages like codecs and players, does kubuntu have anything similar?
[03:46] <soldier174> I know.
[03:46] <Jucato> !codecs | dhuv
[03:46] <ubotu> dhuv: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:46] <instructor> Dink: #ubuntu+1
[03:46] <soldier174> I want to login as the account I created.
[03:46] <instructor> how do I convert a text file to be read on Windows?
[03:46] <JohnFlux_> soldier174: so what happens when you try?
[03:46] <instructor> abattoir: Funny :)
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> soldier174: add something like EXTRA_GROUPS="dialout cdrom floppy audio src video lp users uml-run" (and then when you call adduser call it like - sudo adduser --add_extra_groups username
[03:46] <soldier174> But I can't, don't know how to enable the log in screen.
[03:47] <soldier174> Where?
[03:47] <JohnFlux_> instructor: a plain text file?  you can open in edit in windows
[03:47] <JohnFlux_> instructor: then save it again ;)
[03:47] <hastesaver> soldier174, what do you mean? does it log you in to some other account by default?
[03:47] <soldier174> Yes.
[03:47] <soldier174> By root.
[03:47] <soldier174> It won't let me choose what login name i want to login as.
[03:47] <abattoir> instructor: ???
[03:48] <soldier174> Just sends me directly to the kde desktop.
[03:48] <JohnFlux_> soldier174: oh you have some sort of auto-login
[03:48] <hastesaver> soldier174, you mean it automatically logs you in as root?!
[03:48] <soldier174> Yes.
[03:48] <soldier174> Exactly.
[03:48] <instructor> JohnFlux_: But it looks messed up
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> soldier174: run ``getent passwd | awk 'BEGIN { FS = ":"; } /:x:1[0-9] [0-9] [0-9] :/ { print $1; }'''
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> soldier174: run ``getent passwd | awk 'BEGIN { FS = ":"; } /:x:1[0-9] [0-9] [0-9] :/ { print $1; }''
[03:48] <soldier174> Damn whwere?
[03:48] <instructor> abattoir: open it in noteppad?
[03:48] <soldier174> Lol.
[03:48] <Emess> hey, whens a good point to move to feisty?
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> soldier174: konsole or terminal doesn't matter
[03:49] <abattoir> instructor: yes, i wasn't joking, you'd lose formatting obv., but it'll work
[03:49] <soldier174> Exactly how it is?
[03:49] <h3sp4wn> Emess: When the repos open is the most interesting time
[03:49] <JohnFlux_> instructor: it looks messed up even in edit in windows?
[03:49] <soldier174> Okay.
[03:49] <soldier174> Now what do I do?
[03:49] <h3sp4wn> soldier174: no output ?
[03:49] <soldier174> I'm in a line that is ">"
[03:50] <hastesaver> h3sp4wn, are you using erc or something? Or do you type those `` ' ' quotes out of habit? :-)
[03:50] <soldier174> I think I have to type something?
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> hastesaver: It still runs fine with the quotes even if you copy the command as is
[03:50] <soldier174> What do I type?
[03:50] <soldier174> In the >
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> hastesaver: otherwise someone may type run and then the command
[03:51] <hastesaver> h3sp4wn, no, I just tried it. it doesn't work
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> soldier174: '
[03:51] <ubuntu_>  guys i am stuck at manual partition during kubuntu install .. can somebody help? i have 1 ntfs 1 ext3 (14 gb) and 1 free (1.06 gb) partitions. there is one small partition that says free and has 7.61 "MB" i am in step 5 of 6 .. please help
[03:51] <soldier174> What?
[03:51] <soldier174> type '?
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> soldier174: you asked what to type
[03:51] <proog> what package does kubuntu use for sound card detection?
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> I missed it off
[03:51] <soldier174> Oh.
[03:51] <soldier174> K.
[03:52] <soldier174> Now it said Soldier.
[03:52] <JohnFlux_> proog: thats done by the kernel
[03:52] <proog> ok
[03:52] <soldier174> Will it log in as soldier everytime I log in?
[03:52] <proog> JohnFlux_: does it use a much different kernel than debian?
[03:52] <JohnFlux_> proog: well fairly different
[03:52] <proog> ok
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> soldier174: so soldier doesn't have the same uid as root
[03:53] <soldier174> Lol, so I'm guessing that's a yes.
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> that is what you just found out
[03:53] <soldier174> Brb.
[03:53] <ubuntu_>  guys i am stuck at manual partition during kubuntu install .. can somebody help? i have 1 ntfs 1 ext3 (14 gb) and 1 free (1.06 gb) partitions. there is one small partition that says free and has 7.61 "MB" i am in step 5 of 6 .. please help
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> hastesaver: The top one was correct (I wrongly changed it not thinking)
[03:54] <instructor> abattoir: Isn't there a command to convert it to not be messed up?
[03:54] <abattoir> instructor: i think you should use a different encoding method while saving it...
[03:54] <dennister> good morning good people :)
[03:55] <proog> JohnFlux_: can the kubuntu/ubuntu kernel be downloaded as a debian package from the archives?
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> proog: Ubuntu is not debian
[03:55] <proog> i know
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> proog: So no
[03:55] <proog> (.deb package was what i meant)
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> To install onto debian ?
[03:56] <proog> dunno
[03:56] <kimmern> JohnFlux_: my system crashed again..jises so anoying..but anyways...checked eth0 and it was disabled before I connected to eth1..when I connected to eth1, eth0 got enabled...but disabled from system settings now like you said..
[03:56] <proog> but is the kernel available in the ubuntu repos?
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> proog: I don't know what you are trying to - run either ubuntu or debian
[03:56] <ubuntu_>  guys i am stuck at manual partition during kubuntu install .. can somebody help? i have 1 ntfs 1 ext3 (14 gb) and 1 free (1.06 gb) partitions. there is one small partition that says free and has 7.61 "MB" i am in step 5 of 6 .. please help
[03:57] <proog> h3sp4wn: i just want to know if there is an ubuntu kernel .deb package available in the ubuntu apt repositories
[03:58] <h3sp4wn> proog: of course there is but installing it on another distro is stupid
[03:58] <proog> yes
[03:58] <abattoir> !info tofrodos | instructor
[03:58] <ubotu> tofrodos: Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.6-2 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 68 kB
[03:58] <TheGateKeeper> proog: there are various kernels in the repos
[03:58] <abattoir> whoops
[03:58] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: but wpa-supplicant is inside ifup and down, but I need to do the init script anyway or it could be enough to start wpa-ifupdown deamon?
[03:58] <nickenyfiken> can someone help me with Ktorrent or advice me another torrent client that actually works?
[03:59] <abattoir> instructor: check out tofrodos
[03:59] <TheGateKeeper> proog: I have modified mine but have seen no real benifit
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: Just follow the document (tells you how to set it up from /etc/network/interfaces
[03:59] <dennister> when i try to check which system services are running, I get the error message: "The module system services could not be loaded", yet neither of the possible reasons the diagnostics line offers applies. I've already done a search...but nada...what can i do to fix this?
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: You don't run those directly
[03:59] <kimmern> nickenyfiken: You should try qBittorrent! Great bittorrent program!
[04:00] <TheGateKeeper> nickenyfiken: what's the problem?
[04:00] <h3sp4wn> nickenyfiken: rtorrent is good and fast
[04:00] <nickenyfiken> kimmern: thanks ill try it
[04:00] <nickenyfiken> TheGateKeeper: the problem the tracker status is always "invalid respons"
[04:00] <dennister> hello h3sp4wn: have that clean install :)
[04:01] <instructor> abattoir: Great! :)
[04:02] <dennister> hmm..time out problem again. did anyone see my last query?
[04:02] <ubuntu_>  guys i am stuck at manual partition during kubuntu install .. can somebody help? i have 1 ntfs 1 ext3 (14 gb) and 1 free (1.06 gb) partitions. there is one small partition that says free and has 7.61 "MB" i am in step 5 of 6 .. please help
[04:02] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: the problem is wireless is not working without any protection
[04:02] <dennister> gm letalis
[04:02] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: wireless router say that mac address is connected, but air link is off
[04:03] <dennister> sorry for repeat if last one came thru:
[04:03] <dennister> when i try to check which system services are running, I get the error message: "The module system services could not be loaded", yet neither of the possible reasons the diagnostics line offers applies. I've already done a search...but nada...what can i do to fix this?
[04:03] <TheGateKeeper> nickenyfiken: not really sure why that would be the case unless it has something to do with the particular torrent, I use dapper & mine seems to be ok
[04:03] <letalis> hi dennister
[04:03] <letalis> whats up?
[04:03] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: use wpasupplicant I have no interest whatsoever
[04:03] <dennister> well, i have that error message above
[04:03] <letalis> lol im about ready to kill apt atm
[04:04] <h3sp4wn> aleale2: or I have no interest whatsoever (What part of the document don't you understand)
[04:04] <dennister> but other than that they mythtv backend is again set up, and more properly this time
[04:04] <letalis> of course, if they wouldnt let you run nine adept_managers by accident, this wouldntve occured.
[04:04] <letalis> :)
[04:04] <dennister> lol
[04:05] <h3sp4wn> letalis: just remove adept and use aptitude instead
[04:05] <letalis> thats not going to fix this problem
[04:05] <letalis> im in lock file hell
[04:05] <nickenyfiken> ah i figured out what was wrong using another client. The default port KTorrent is using was rejected by the tracker
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> letalis: get rid of adept - then just use aptitude (remove the locks
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> letalis: aptitude actually works properly
[04:07] <letalis> i think i got it fixed now
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> letalis: apt-get will tell you which lock file you need to remove
[04:08] <h3sp4wn> letalis: Until it happens again
[04:08] <letalis> nah i know what needs to be done IF it happens again
[04:08] <h3sp4wn> It will adept sucks
[04:08] <letalis> lol ever used fedora?
[04:09] <letalis> yum sucks
[04:09] <letalis> :)
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> letalis: you can use apt-rpm
[04:09] <letalis> adept has minor nuisances.
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> yum was just slow but worked ok the only time I have used it
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> (To bootstrap rawhide)
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> using the debian yum package
[04:10] <dude_> jucato: are you there?
[04:11] <letalis> adept just needs a lockkk system of its own to keep people from running more than one process of it
[04:11] <abattoir> dude_: no, he left some time ago
[04:11] <dude_> abattoir: ok, are you a programmer?
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> letalis: using the console version of yum I have had zero problems (adept doesn't support everything that a deb may do)
[04:11] <dude_> abattoir: ok, are you a web programmer?
[04:11] <abattoir> dude_: why do you ask?
[04:12] <dude_> abattoir: my boss needs one
[04:12] <dennister> perhaps my timeouts and lags will now be shortened
[04:12] <abattoir> dude_: hehe, i'm not for hire, sorry :P
[04:12] <systest> moved from 6.06 to 6.10.  Evolution now failing regularly with "too many open files". Anyone else here experiencing this?
[04:12] <dude_> abattoir: ohh ok...just asking, he needs a full time programmer for his websites
[04:12] <dennister> if anyone has been trying to help me with the system services issue, sorry...haven't been able to see any replies
[04:13] <dennister> i hope i've fixed my lag/timeout issue
[04:13] <sorush20> I have forgotten the password to kwalletmanager any ideas how to retreive it?
[04:14] <dennister> abattoir: ur getting job offers here, a testament to your skill :)
[04:14] <sorush20> I don't really know how this has  happened.. I  have alawys used the same password. but today it is refusing to accept it with code 9 error
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> sorush20: should be impossible (otherwise is it worthless)
[04:14] <abattoir> dennister: a thus far non-existent one ;)
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> sorush20: You should be able only to reset it
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> sorush20: Not get at what is in it
[04:15] <dennister> letalis: i'm not registered
[04:16] <letalis> lol
[04:16] <nickenyfiken> anyone using ntfs-g3 to mount ntfs with read/write? I want to know how stable it is to use
[04:16] <letalis> yeah i forgot about that
[04:16] <calvarez> hmm, can KDE work with XGL, or I have to use compiz?
[04:16] <sorush20> I have used the same pass for the past year.. could something have gone wrong?
[04:16] <letalis> gotta be regged to recieve msgs
[04:16] <letalis> calvarez: what kind of video card do you have?
[04:17] <abattoir> calvarez: beryl + aiglx seems to be the most recommended path
[04:17] <calvarez> GeForce 6600GT
[04:17] <letalis> ill tell you now, if you want to do something other than have an opengl desktop like run another 3d application, dont bother with xgl.
[04:18] <hollywoodb> aiglx + compiz will let you run opengl, video, anything you want... beryl is buggy though
[04:18] <dennister> i'm afraid i need the 3d...this is supposed to be a home theatre pc...need it for the video
[04:18] <letalis> i got a 6800 and i just added a few settings to xorg.conf to make all the composite stuff fly.
[04:18] <reon> wtf does fdisk not list my drives ?
[04:19] <calvarez> please clarify something for me: beryl and compiz are window managers, or not? do they run instead of KDE?
[04:19] <dennister> i still have too many stuff in xorg...like the wacom tablet
[04:19] <calvarez> do I need to run them concurrently? I'm having a hard time understanding what the role of each piece of software is
[04:19] <letalis> window managers are totally different from kde
[04:19] <letalis> kkwin is the window manager for kde
[04:19] <letalis> kwin
[04:19] <calvarez> well, sorry, kwin
[04:19] <dennister> but i tried to remove that module (properly and safely), restarted the pc, and it was bak
[04:20] <dennister> back*
[04:20] <calvarez> so, I'd be running KDE with beryl or compiz instead of kwin
[04:20] <calvarez> ?
[04:20] <dennister> but the real problem seems to be this missing system services module
[04:20] <hollywoodb> calvarez: yes
[04:20] <letalis> to answer the question, compriz and beryl are window managers which in you setup will replace kwin
[04:20] <letalis> that is, if all goes well LOL
[04:20] <BluesKaj> Kinfocenter?
[04:20] <calvarez> hollywood, which one of the two has a more kwin-like feel?
[04:20] <dude_> what swrong with kwin?
[04:20] <calvarez> I just like kwin
[04:20] <dude_> whats wrong with kwin?
[04:20] <dennister> i've also tried reinstalling it, nada
[04:21] <xsacha> whats wrong with beryl+emerald?
[04:21] <xcyborg> hi, how do I set my bluetooth device to "hidden" ?
[04:21] <calvarez> dude_, I don't think anybody is saying something is wrong with kwin, we're just talking about window managers for use with XGL
[04:21] <calvarez> so, which one of the two XGL-compatible WMs (beryl and compiz) has a more kwin-like feel?
[04:22] <dude_> im interested
[04:22] <dude_> :)
[04:22] <hollywoodb> calvarez: beryl is more customizable, compiz is more stable
[04:23] <xsacha> calvarez: try aquamarine -- it is kwin-like decorator for beryl
[04:23] <calvarez> how much further back in stability is beryl compared to compiz
[04:23] <calvarez> is it really crashy?
[04:23] <hollywoodb> calvarez: I can't do opengl, it crashes occasionally, I have none of those problems with compiz
[04:23] <calvarez> oh, ok
[04:23] <dude_> !compiz
[04:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:23] <calvarez> well, I do OpenGL, so probably I should go for compiz
[04:24] <dennister> abattoir: u've been quiet
[04:24] <calvarez> no way to use kwin with xgl then?
[04:24] <calvarez> so far?
[04:24] <letalis> calvarez: you can
[04:24] <abattoir> dennister: need help w/ something?
[04:24] <dennister> yes, if u could: my system services module is missing
[04:24] <abattoir> dennister: edgy?
[04:24] <dennister> yep
[04:24] <calvarez> letalis, but I would not have the same eye candy that XGL is supposed to be all about, right?
[04:24] <letalis> i was trying to improve the speeds of the eye candy kde comes with
[04:25] <letalis> window translucency, shadows, etc..
[04:25] <abattoir> dennister: hmm, that could be a bug, let me look at LP
[04:25] <dude_> calvarez: im also planning to install xgl
[04:25] <dennister> LP?
[04:25] <abattoir> dennister: did you ask me before?
[04:25] <abattoir> dennister: Launchpad
[04:25] <aleale2> damn, I opened wlanassistant, it say that I'm connected, but it's not true! what can be the problem?
[04:25] <dennister> no...i put out a gneral question, but then had to log out to fix konversation
[04:25] <letalis> but i found that a few settings in device in xorg.conf eliminated the use of the xgl server completely
[04:26] <letalis> and i can still run all my 3d apps without issues
[04:26] <dennister> so i'm not sure if someone tried to help...i wouldn't have seen any replies
[04:26] <abattoir> dennister: oh ok, then why did you say i was 'quiet'? :P
[04:26] <dennister> oh, ur usually so busy, and i haven't seen ur replies to anyone for a bit since i reconnected (after fixing konversation)
[04:27] <dude_> compiz is more stable?
[04:27] <dennister> what's LP u were going to check?
[04:27] <letalis> after that i got a little program called 3ddesktop and set it up so i can change between desktops with all the coolness of 3d without the hassle of having the window manager taking over the 3d card
[04:28] <calvarez> dude_, gonna install it right now?
[04:28] <dude_> calvarez: not yet, still afraid : )
[04:28] <dude_> calvarez: just a plan
[04:29] <calvarez> ok, question: any issues with kubuntu amd64? any things not working or that require tweaking?
[04:29] <letalis> i use it, not really
[04:29] <calvarez> are flash, java, etc. working? I haven't installed linux in a few months
[04:29] <dennister> calvarez: lots of problems with 64
[04:30] <calvarez> dennister, what problems?
[04:30] <dennister> i struggled with java for days...finally gave up on 64
[04:30] <letalis> ok the flash, java whohaa crap :)
[04:30] <letalis> build a 32 bit chroot.
[04:30] <calvarez> k, so those no workie
[04:30] <dennister> flash, wouldn't work, lots of issues
[04:30] <letalis> put a browser that supports flash in the chroot
[04:30] <abattoir> !bugs | dennister
[04:30] <ubotu> dennister: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:30] <abattoir> !launchpad | dennister
[04:30] <ubotu> dennister: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[04:30] <calvarez> letalis, I don't wanna do chroots and stuff
[04:30] <calvarez> i'll go with 32-bit. thanks though
[04:31] <dennister> i'm much happier with 32bit calvarez
[04:31] <letalis> maks building from scratch much cleaner
[04:31] <letalis> :)
[04:33] <abattoir> dennister: i think you should file a bug
[04:33] <abattoir> dennister: i can't seem to find one
[04:33] <letalis> the other way would be get/make ia32 libs for the browser in question, then install the deb for the browser with the --force-architecture flag
[04:33] <letalis> that might get messy.
[04:33] <letalis> :)
[04:33] <dennister> great :(
[04:34] <dennister> how long will resolving a bug take?
[04:34] <letalis> just know that a 64 bit kernel will run 32 bit apps, so long as it has the correct libs to use to run it
[04:35] <aleale2> h3sp4wn: wireless is active but domain server is down, also if I ping the wirelss router isn't ok, but now I'm on konversation via wireless
[04:35] <aleale2> that can be?
[04:36] <dennister> has anyone seen this with their edgy systems? a missing System Services module all of a sudden?
[04:36] <calvarez> ROFL! I found a mirror where I'll be able to download the DVD image in 1 hr :) :) :)
[04:36] <ubuntu> hey can somebody help me with the manual partition utility in ubuntu?
[04:37] <dennister> what's ur question ubuntu? and pls change ur nic
[04:37] <ubuntu> what is an nic?
[04:37] <ubuntu> sorry if i sound lame
[04:37] <abattoir> dennister: it doesn't load w/ kcontrol either?
[04:37] <dennister> your handle,
[04:37] <abattoir> ubuntu: your nick name
[04:37] <dennister> no abatoir
[04:37] <abattoir> ubuntu: /nick <New Name>
[04:38] <dennister> oops abattoir
[04:38] <jobless> hey is this better?
[04:38] <dennister> yes, ty
[04:38] <abattoir> jobless: yes :)
[04:38] <dennister> what do u want to do with the manual paritioning?
[04:39] <jobless> here is the problem .. i have like 6 partitions that are showing up
[04:39] <dennister> oh, hold on abattoir: i was having trouble the other day trying to edit my ke-menus and add the debian menus..can't seem to do it this time, forgotten how
[04:39] <abattoir> dennister: kmenuedit
[04:40] <jobless> one is fat16, 1 ntfs, 1 ext3, 1 free, 1 fat32 and another free .. i have one free partition that is 1gb and i want to use it as swap! but i am not allowed to do anything with it .. only the property button is enabled when i select that ..
[04:40] <kristjan__> I got one question: how to apply "maximum performance" with new power manager?
[04:41] <jobless> can u help abattoir?
[04:41] <dennister> abattoir: ok, but this doesn't help me...there used to be another way in system settings, but it seems to be gone with edgy
[04:42] <constantine-xvi> where does the sun-java package put the plugin?
[04:42] <dennister> and i think i need to add a program from synaptic to enable the debian menus
[04:42] <kristjan__> (I have pentium M processor and previosly I could switch between ondemand, powersave and performance)
[04:43] <jobless> abattoir: hmm was that a dumb question from me? no reply?!
[04:43] <dennister> jobless: it's normal to have swap very restricted in what u can do with it
[04:43] <jobless> dennister: i have 1gb free
[04:44] <jobless> i want to make it into swap
[04:44] <abattoir> jobless: one sec, i was afk
[04:44] <jobless> but i am not getting any options to do it (like create or format)
[04:45] <dennister> jobless: abottoir's better than i at helping, so i'm passing u to him
[04:46] <abattoir> jobless: hmm you want to create swap in free space an qtparted doesn't let you do that?
[04:46] <jobless> yes
[04:46] <abattoir> jobless: is this under a logical partition?
[04:46] <jobless> logical partition?
[04:47] <jobless> can i send u a screen shot somehow?
[04:47] <pc22> anybody here hosting drupal?
[04:47] <abattoir> jobless: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/structPartitions-c.html
[04:48] <abattoir> jobless: i haven't used qtparted much... what are the options under properties?
[04:49] <jobless> when i right click on a partition i get these properties, create, format, resize,move, delete, undo,commit
[04:49] <abattoir> jobless: yes, you can use ksnapshot to get the screenshot and can upload it to some place like imageshack.us
[04:49] <ermak> is it possible to connect a pocket pc via bluetooth in order to share internet connection?
[04:50] <ermak> i am trying to pare devices and always get authentication error on desktop....
[04:51] <jobless> abattoir: hey i deleted the ext3 partition and now i have 11 gb of continuos free space ..can i install both "/" and swap on that 11gb?
[04:51] <abattoir> jobless: you'd need to split it into two partitions still
[04:52] <jobless> when i hit create on the partition .. i get an option with create as extended or primary. which one should i choose?
[04:52] <abattoir> jobless: that'd depend on how many primary partitions you already have
[04:52] <abattoir> jobless: you can't have more than 4 primary partitions
[04:52] <abattoir> jobless: you'll need to create extended then
[04:53] <jobless> i have 3 primary partitions ..
[04:53] <abattoir> jobless: ok, then create an extended one
[04:53] <jobless> so i need two more .. one swap and one for "/"
[04:53] <abattoir> jobless: yes... you can create a separate /home if you want to
[04:53] <bxnp> hi new kubuntu user was wondering how i can put firefox 2 on this box
[04:54] <abattoir> bxnp: which version of kubuntu?
[04:54] <jobless> abattoir: i did not get that
[04:54] <bxnp> 6.06
[04:54] <abattoir> jobless: generally, /home is created inside the / partition, but some people prefer/recommend creating a separate /home partition as it sometimes is helpful during upgrades/for backing up data
[04:55] <bxnp> jobless, its version 6.06
[04:58] <paulw> jobless: I highly recommend a separate /home partition.  You can reinstall if needed and not format that partition thus keeping your personal settings and software intact.
[04:59] <feydin> hi there, i stored a kde session in which firefox 2.0 automatically starts, but always when i log into kde, firefox asks me if he should restore the session, why is that?
[04:59] <abattoir> !info firefox dapper
[04:59] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB
[05:00] <bxnp> abattoir, but that is version 1.5
[05:00] <jobless> abattoir: ok .. i did not get the problem solved still .. i am not able to save the screen shot as i am using the live cd approach ..
[05:00] <abattoir> bxnp: 1.5 is the latest package provided by ubuntu for dapper... i think you need to get the package from getfirefox.com, not sure if it's pacakged elsewhere
[05:00] <sorush20> where is the other version of firefox that is compiled for you kernel etc?
[05:00] <feydin> i got edgy and firefox 2.0
[05:00] <abattoir> jobless: you can save it /home/ubuntu
[05:00] <abattoir> feydin: edgy has 2.0, dapper doesn't
[05:00] <jobless> ok
[05:00] <sorush20> windows is still a lot faster on my computer than linux kubuntu
[05:00] <abattoir> feydin: i think that's a feature
[05:00] <paulw> feydin: I believe that session restore is one of FF 2.0's new features
[05:00] <abattoir> feydin: do you have Tab mix plus or any other extension installed?
[05:01] <dennister> abattoir: konsole gave me this: kmenuedit: WARNING: Could not read /home/cathy/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu
[05:01] <malix0> hi I've a strange problem on my laptop with kubuntu edgy
[05:01] <feydin> abattoir, i got some extensions installed yes, but no tab mix
[05:01] <abattoir> feydin: then i guess the feature made it into 2.0 as paulw says
[05:01] <malix0> the network card eth0 work only for a few seconds and then die
[05:01] <dennister> it started, but even when i shut it down again i had to do a ctl-c to get my konsole prompt back
[05:01] <abattoir> dennister: i guess there were problems saving the last time you made modifications to it
[05:02] <paulw> feydin: you'll grow to love that feature in time :)
[05:02] <feydin> yes its a feature, but i dont find any option to disable it
[05:02] <dennister> i never made any changes to it with this installation
[05:02] <malix0> every ip that I try to reach within my network give me network is unreachable
[05:02] <abattoir> dennister: does it still load the menu?
[05:02] <feydin> anyway.. i can live with it :)
[05:02] <dennister> now synaptic and adept did, but i didn't personally
[05:03] <dennister> yes
[05:03] <feydin> here's another question: someone here (dont know who it was) told me how to control yakuake with DCOP... is anyone here who knows this too?
[05:03] <feydin> i want multiple tabs open with the start of yakueke
[05:03] <feydin> *yakuake
[05:04] <dennister> but that doesn't mean i can add the debian menus or change other things without the option in system settings to control kmenu
[05:04] <dennister> sorry, i'm not explaining things well
[05:04] <jobless> abattoir: http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=partso0.png here is the screen shot
[05:05] <jobless> dennister: http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=partso0.png can u check the screenshot and tell me if u can help?
[05:05] <abattoir> dennister: ok, now what's the issue?
[05:05] <dennister> abattoir: hold on, i think i solved the menu problem :)
[05:05] <abattoir> dennister: sorry
[05:06] <abattoir> jobless: what's the issue, Create seems to be enabled there
[05:06] <dennister> np :) ur extremely helpful
[05:06] <abattoir> dennister: no, i meant that message wasn't for you
[05:06] <abattoir> dennister: now i ask you, what was the issue?
[05:06] <jobless> abattoir: when i try to partition the 11gb free into two as 10 and 1 .. i am not able to use the 1gb for swap
[05:07] <abattoir> jobless: make partition 3 and extended partition
[05:07] <abattoir> jobless: and then create two partitions there
[05:08] <instructor> can I pull a deb from apt-get but not install it?
[05:08] <instructor> or a set of debs?
[05:08] <abattoir> jobless: you can't create the swap partition because you already have 4 primary partitions(when you format the 10 gig / partition)
[05:08] <abattoir> instructor: yes, you can install them, but they won't resolve dependencies automatically
[05:08] <instructor> abattoir: No I don't want to install them
[05:08] <abattoir> that is, you'd have to have all the necessary dependencies downloaded as well
[05:09] <abattoir> instructor: oh, you meant you only want to download
[05:09] <abattoir> instructor: i think -download is the flag, let me confirm, wait
[05:09] <instructor> abattoir: I want to apt-get something and have it in cache but not installed on my system
[05:09] <abattoir> instructor: btw, all the packages that you downloaded(and installed) are saved in /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:10] <h3sp4wn> instructor: or just use debmirror and mirror the whole archive (to an external drive for example)
[05:10] <instructor> I know
[05:10] <instructor> h3sp4wn: the Whole archive?
[05:10] <jobless> ok so i first make an extended partition .. then create two more partitions for "/" and swap in it?
[05:10] <instructor> it is --download-only ?
[05:10] <h3sp4wn> instructor: Why not its only 15gb or so
[05:10] <instructor> for a few packages?
[05:11] <abattoir> instructor: yes it is
[05:11] <h3sp4wn> I don't know the reason why you want to download it
[05:11] <abattoir> instructor: for a few packages?
[05:11] <instructor> So I can get the debs to someone else
[05:11] <abattoir> instructor: oh, nvm
[05:11] <instructor> abattoir: h3sp4wn was saying I should just mirror the whole repo
[05:11] <h3sp4wn> instructor: give them the dvd (has the whole of main on it)
[05:11] <abattoir> instructor: yeah, i didn't read that the first time around :P
[05:11] <instructor> so it's apt-get install --download-only packagenames?
[05:12] <abattoir> instructor: yup
[05:12] <instructor> great :) thatnks
[05:12] <instructor> Thanks
[05:12] <jobless> abattoir: hey i think that solved the problem.. the problem was an user error :)) thanks for the link abt the type of partitions
[05:12] <abattoir> jobless: ok, so you created and extended partition there?
[05:13] <h3sp4wn> instructor: or you can also do a partial mirror with debmirror (give them a pool which they can use exactly like a normal cd rom apt source)
[05:13] <instructor> Hmm ok I'll look into that
[05:13] <instructor> How much bandwidth a week does mirroring the repos take up?
[05:13] <h3sp4wn> Pretty much none if you are using the stable release
[05:14] <jobless> abattoir: yes i did .. now, can i mount my windows paritions too? in the next screen where it asks for.. the default mount is media/sda* for all windows partitions
[05:14] <abattoir> jobless: yes, that's right, make sure you don't format them though
[05:14] <abattoir> jobless: that is only your root and swap should be formated
[05:14] <abattoir> (/)
[05:15] <abattoir> jobless: nvm, i'll just end up confusing you, the default option should be fine
[05:15] <jobless> abattoir: yes i will .. can i mount the windows partition anywhere? like home/win?
[05:15] <xymox18> holas
[05:15] <xymox18> alguien que hables espaol
[05:15] <Karol84PL> Does anyone know any working mplayer plugin for opera 9.02. I'm using Dapper
[05:15] <abattoir> jobless: yes you can
[05:16] <abattoir> jobless: change /media/sda1, for eg. to /home/win1 if you want to
[05:16] <jobless> abattoir: ohh can i change that after completing the install of ubuntu?
[05:16] <abattoir> jobless: but you might lose out on some features
[05:16] <abattoir> jobless: yes, you can change that in /etc/fstab
[05:17] <kristjan_> gtk-qt engine is broken?
[05:17] <instructor> h3sp4wn: Packages don't update?
[05:17] <jobless> abattoir: so media/sda1 should be the best option then ? (not loosing any features?) and what are the features?!
[05:18] <abattoir> jobless: nothing big really, media:// (or /media in edgy now) handling in KDE works pretty well if it's mounted by default in /media
[05:18] <abattoir> jobless: but tbh, it's not that big an issue, you can mount it anywhere
[05:19] <jobless> abattoir: so will i get better handling if i change that back in etc/fstab after the install?
[05:19] <abattoir> jobless: the thing is /media has been patched so that your partitions are seen as drives, not just as folders, so you can easily mount/unmount them from there if you wish to...
[05:20] <abattoir> jobless: if you will not be doing that(i dont think you'll need to), then you can mount it pretty much anywhere you want
[05:20] <jobless> abattoir: ohh ok !!
[05:20] <Mez> eep
[05:21] <jobless> abattoir: thanks for the help .. i will get back to the install now ..
[05:23] <kristjan_> so; how long has irc.ubuntu.org been around and what's different compared to freenode #kubuntu?
[05:24] <abattoir> kristjan_: it's an alias which currently points to freenode
[05:25] <abattoir> kristjan_: if and when ubuntu decides to switch networks, for eg., it'll just change the alias in their servers, and the average user wouldn't notice the transition
[05:25] <h3sp4wn> instructor: why would they when its released (only updates and security update (pretty infreqently)
[05:25] <abattoir> or at least it'll be seamless
[05:25] <kristjan_> abattoir: umm; I'm in freenode?
[05:26] <abattoir> kristjan_: yes
[05:26] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: Have they decided to switch ?
[05:26] <abattoir> kristjan_: #kubuntu in Freenode
[05:26] <Tm_T> :p
[05:26] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: don't know, heard somewhere that it was on agenda for UDS MTV
[05:26] <abattoir> (but these are rumours of course ;) )
[05:27] <simen> k
[05:27] <samyboy> Hi there, how do I enable auto completion in quanta ?
[05:27] <webben> Is it not possible to install qmake with kubuntu crash?
[05:27] <webben> specifically qt4-dev-tools
[05:27] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: I will have to work out which network has the least amount of the same questions on it
[05:28] <lalo> hi all
[05:28] <lalo> i hope so can help me.....
[05:29] <abattoir> webben: the first snapshot or the second one?
[05:29] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: :)
[05:29] <abattoir> lalo: ask your question, if someone can, they will
[05:29] <webben> abbattoir: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php
[05:29] <webben> the first one
[05:29] <webben> the second one isn't in a repo yet is it?
[05:29] <lalo> i am surfing on konqueror and every time i clik a link is ask me to save the page or open it on SwiftFox...why?
[05:31] <abattoir> webben: then i guess you'll need the appropriate -kdecopy
[05:31] <abattoir> !info qt4-dev-tools-kdecopy
[05:31] <ubotu> qt4-dev-tools-kdecopy: Qt 4 development tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.0~svn20060818-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 694 kB, installed size 1816 kB
[05:32] <webben> abattoir, ah ha! thank you :)
[05:33] <lalo> no one can help me then???
[05:33] <kristjan_> can I use konsole to switch power management profile to "performance"?
[05:34] <samyboy> How do I enable auto completion in quanta ? (bis)
[05:34] <lalo> ????????????????// help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[05:35] <instructor> !help
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[05:35] <abattoir> lalo: that will definitely not help your cause... wait a sec
[05:35] <abattoir> kristjan_: you could probably do that through dcop
[05:36] <dennister> abattoir: i ran a "kcmshell serviceconfig' in cli and got some output in terms of why my system services module isn't running. Could u take a look at it if i put it in pastebin?
[05:36] <abattoir> lalo: did you modify the entries in kcontrol for the www mimetype by any chance?
[05:36] <dennister> !pastebin
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:36] <abattoir> dennister: ok
[05:36] <kristjan_> abattoir: would you mind telling me how?
[05:37] <abattoir> kristjan_: try dcop kpowersave
[05:37] <dennister> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30530/
[05:37] <abattoir> kristjan_: i don't actually have it running here, so can't give you the exact command
[05:37] <abattoir> kristjan_: if you want you could pastebin the output, and i could guide you from there
[05:37] <lalo> i dunno abattoir....how can i check it?
[05:38] <kristjan_> abattoir: power-manager-4965
[05:38] <abattoir> lalo: then most probably installing switfox did that
[05:38] <lalo> i have swittfox installed
[05:39] <abattoir> kristjan_: then 'dcop power-manager-4965'
[05:40] <abattoir> dennister: modules not loading is a known bug
[05:40] <abattoir> dennister: i'm not aware of the fix though, if you can please attach it and file a bug
[05:40] <kristjan_> abattoir: three of them: qt, MainApplication-Interface, power-manager
[05:40] <abattoir> kristjan_: then 'dcop power-manager-4965 power-manager'
[05:41] <dhuv> hello all