[11:25] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:26] <diogenes_> afternoon
[11:33] <BluesKaj> afternoon where you are. it's morming in Canada
[11:34] <diogenes_> I'm in Utopia
[11:34] <BluesKaj> that's nice ;-)
[11:38] <BluesKaj> so what's happeninhg in utopia, diogenes_ ?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> happening even
[11:39] <diogenes_> well today we celebrate the Day of the Sun here
[11:39] <diogenes_> everyone is celebrating and enjoying, dacing singing
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Day of ther Sun, what does that signify on nov 19?
[11:44] <diogenes_> nov? remember it's Utopia, we have a different calendar here,
[11:53] <BluesKaj> ahh eastern orthodox, got it
[11:54] <diogenes_> nah, not really


[00:11] <Myrtti> nini everyone
[02:26]  * Seeker` wonders if nalioth is awake / available to talk
[02:32] <Seeker`> wow, robotgeek got +v before he actually joined the channel
[02:33] <robotgeek> Seeker`: really?
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> not on my screen
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> that would be impressive though
[02:33] <robotgeek> i promise, i know nothing about that :)
[02:38] <Seeker`> -02:32:30- ~s~ mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v robotgeek] by ChanServ
[02:38] <Seeker`> -02:32:30- ~s~ robotgeek (robotgeek) ><EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-ops
[02:38]  * Seeker` should get back to writing his PHP
[02:55] <lifeless> hi
[02:55] <lifeless> many + people here I see :)
[02:56] <lifeless> I'm hoping to get a (probably few contributors, but any >> none) #ubuntu-la channel going. (la is the language code - Latin, as opposed to 'Latin America' or anything like that)
[02:56] <lifeless> #ubuntu-la is however registered with chanserv
[02:57] <lifeless> but not listed on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:57] <tonyyarusso> lifeless: -la is reserved for Laos.
[02:57] <lifeless> ah
[02:57] <tonyyarusso> try -lat maybe?
[02:58] <lifeless> do we have a convention for language communities rather than country communities?
[02:58] <tonyyarusso> I'm not sure.  Either way, #ubuntu-irc would be the appropriate place to ask rather than here.  Try that.
[02:58] <lifeless> K. I'm chasing pointers - persia sent me here. Thanks.
[02:58] <tonyyarusso> ah, hehe
[03:00] <Seeker`> I believe that there is currently no naming system in place for different languages
[03:01] <Seeker`> only different countries, of the form #ubuntu-cc, where cc is the iso country code
[03:02] <lifeless> thanks Seeker`
[03:02] <lifeless> I think I'll hang in #ubuntu-translators for a bit; see if that raises any possibilities
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> lifeless: for what it's worth, I do know that translator teams' mailing lists are using the three-letter codes now
[03:05] <lifeless> tonyyarusso: three letter iso language code?
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[03:08] <lifeless> so its a little annoying that both ubuntu-la and ubuntu-lat are taken
[03:08] <lifeless> :(
[03:14] <Seeker`> lifeless: anything else we can help you with?
[03:14] <lifeless> until I get some guidance from $various sources about a good next step - nope
[03:14] <lifeless> thanks for asking
[03:16] <Seeker`> I'm afraid that this channel isn't really for idling ing
[03:17] <Seeker`> *in
[03:18] <Seeker`> lifeless: ^
[03:22] <mneptok> Seeker`: lifeless is my date.
[03:23] <mneptok> lifeless: semper ubi sub ubi.
[03:27] <lifeless> always where under where ?
[03:27] <lifeless> >WTF>
[03:28] <lifeless> Seeker`: ok, I can not-idle here. tchau
[03:29] <Seeker`> hmm, bedtime
[03:29] <Seeker`> g'night
[04:09] <john__> hi guys
[04:09] <john__> when will i be unbanned
[04:18] <elky_work> john__: not whilever you pull stunts like you did a few hours ago. if you cannot cease that, then you will not fit in with our channels. please '/msg ubottu guidelines' and read what it tells you. follow those rules for the next week in the places you can still get to, and we may consider allowing you back
[04:18] <john__> stunts?
[04:18] <john__> Learn the definition,.
[04:18] <john__> no
[04:18] <john__> What are your channels
[04:19] <john__> So I can know to stay away from them
[04:19] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 07:35:09] --> applemilk has joined this channel (n=bababooe@cpe-71-72-82-183.columbus.res.rr.com).
[04:19] <john__> i switched to debian anyways
[04:19] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 07:35:25] <applemilk> Not here
[04:19] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 07:35:25] <applemilk> Okoay
[04:19] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 07:35:43] <-- applemilk has left this channel ("Leaving").
[04:19] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 07:39:50] --> niggggers has joined this channel (n=bababooe@cpe-71-72-82-183.columbus.res.rr.com).
[04:19] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 07:39:52] <niggggers> wat
[04:19] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 07:39:54] <-- niggggers has left this channel ("Leaving").
[04:19] <elky_work> john__: your behaviour wont last long there, trust me on this.
[04:19] <john__> what the fuck does Not here, Okoay have to do with that
[04:19] <john__> I mean wow
[04:19] <john__> If I look for an OP and go there
[04:19] <john__> That's fucking dangerous
[04:20] <john__> I understand the second one
[04:20] <john__> But the first,
[04:20] <john__> Care to explain?
[04:20] <elky_work> riddence.
[04:21] <elky_work> sheesh, highlighting too much by accident trips him up
[04:21] <john__> Okay then
[04:21] <john__> When will I be unbanned?
[04:22] <elky_work> i already answered that.
[04:22] <john__> When?
[04:22] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 13:18:17] <elky_work> john__: not whilever you pull stunts like you did a few hours ago. if you cannot cease that, then you will not fit in with our channels. please '/msg ubottu guidelines' and read what it tells you. follow those rules for the next week in the places you can still get to, and we may consider allowing you back
[04:22] <elky_work> then.
[04:22] <john__> Okay
[04:22] <john__> I am following those rules
[04:23] <john__> In fucking Debian channels.
[04:23] <elky_work> you just failed. sorry.
[04:23] <elky_work> goodbye.
[04:23] <john__> no
[04:23] <elky_work> yay, pm harrasssment now
[04:23] <elky_work> i am being told to assault theoretical children now
[04:24] <elky_work> ooh, now a language lesson
[04:25] <elky_work> he's rather a broken record now
[04:25] <elky_work> shall i paste the contents of our PM, john__?
[04:26] <elky_work> well, 'your PM' would be more appropriate, since i havent said anythign to you privately.
[04:27] <elky_work> he's got a 2 second counter piping 'NIGGER' to me.

[04:28] <elky_work> tonyyarusso: yes. ingenious.
[04:29] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 13:28:27] <john__> SERIOUS
[04:29] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 13:28:29] <john__> BUSINESS
[04:29] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 13:28:31] <john__> NOOOO
[04:29] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 13:28:33] <john__> NOT UBUNTU
[04:29] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 13:28:37] <john__> I UPGRADED FRMO DAPPER
[04:29] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 13:28:39] <john__> I'M USING UBUNTU ITCHY BADGER
[04:29] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 13:28:43] <john__> HELP
[04:29] <Hobbsee> itchy badger.  nice.
[04:29] <elky_work> yeah. i just about choked on my lunch reading this
[04:29] <Hobbsee> oh well, that's clearly not supported, so.. :)
[04:29] <elky_work> yep
[04:30] <elky_work> someone may want to catalyse this fellow, since i clearly am incapable of bending to his will.
[04:31] <Hobbsee> or just let him be, till he either a) sobers up or b) grows up
[04:31] <elky_work> i dont think this is a counter, i think it's him pasting crap.
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> elky_work it isnt him.. it is his drunken room mate
[04:31] <elky_work> Jack_Sparrow: of course it is
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:32] <elky_work> now to step in some puke and go eat chinese
[04:32] <elky_work> 008-06-06 13:32:11] <john__> .
[04:32] <elky_work> that's the current mode of spam
[04:32] <Seeker`> he has a point
[04:32] <elky_work> Seeker`: lots of them. one every two seconds.
[04:33] <elky_work> i think it's now up to staff if this sort of harrassment is allowed against channel ops/GCs, since afaik it's not allowed against actual staff.
[04:33] <Seeker`> elky_work: have you reported it to staff?
[04:33] <Hobbsee> elky_work: then repoint him to a staffer who can help him?
[04:34] <Hobbsee> Seeker`: it won't matter if she reports it - it'll actually have to happen to them, before they'll react.
[04:34] <Hobbsee> Seeker`: anyone can report anything, true or not
[04:34] <elky_work> im kinda working, eating and peeing myself laughing atm. when one activity ceases i'll ping a staffer
[04:34] <Hobbsee> haha
[04:34] <Seeker`> well, nothing will get done at all if you dont actually *tell* staff it is happening.
[04:34] <elky_work> Seeker`: he's not exactly dangerous, and i know nothing will happen anyway
[04:35] <elky_work> Hobbsee: how does one do /wii in konvi? :(
[04:36] <elky_work> he's stopped. zomg.
[04:36] <Hobbsee>  /whois?
[04:37] <elky_work> Hobbsee: /wii is /whois with idle time.
[04:38] <Seeker`> /whois nickname nickname
[04:38] <elky_work> oh
[04:39] <Seeker`> i.e. /whois elky_work elky_work
[04:39] <elky_work> wow, pricechild is an identified user twice over
[04:48] <elky_work> also, this nasi goreng is the worst nasi goreng ever.
[04:58] <SportChick> elky_work: I tried to query him but he seems to be offline now?
[04:59] <elky_work> yeah, just noticed. i didnt see a quit message in the PM though
[05:00] <elky_work> want me to publish his 13 minutes of lameness in a pastebin or somewhere?
[05:03] <elky_work> done anyway .. http://www.pastebin.ca/1040079 (bad language warning)
[05:04] <wgrant> Nice work.
[05:05] <elky_work> SportChick: the lamer has done little besides waste our time and be abusive all week
[05:40] <SportChick> elky_work: unfortunately I need to get him to be a pita to me since he's been harassing you in PM.  If you can get him to do it in channel, just whisper one of us that is in the channel
[05:47] <nealmcb> LjL: note the few hesitant starts above re: reforming the factoids on virtualization and kvm for hardy
[05:47] <nealmcb> but we might get some better ones after soren and sommer get involved
[05:57] <elky_work> SportChick: if 'in channel' is enough, please search the logs of this channel for "john__"
[05:59] <elky_work> actually, search for "cpe-71-72-82-183.columbus.res.rr.com" as it'll show all his idiocy
[06:07] <SportChick> elky_work: /lastlog cpe-71-72-82-183.columbus.res.rr.com
[06:07] <SportChick> lol, mt
[06:41] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 15:41:54] [Error] LASTLOG: Unknown command.
[06:42] <elky_work> konvi sucks
[06:42] <elky_work> [2008-06-06 15:42:15] [Error] WII: Unknown command.
[06:42] <elky_work> as i was saying
[07:27] <Myrtti> moin
[07:33] <elky_work> dont read the backlog, it'll hurt
[07:33] <Myrtti> of course I read it
[07:34] <Myrtti> nothing as bad that has happened the last few nights
[07:34] <elky_work> masochist
[07:34] <elky_work> yeah
[07:34] <Myrtti> it's an exception if I don't read some channels backlog
[07:34] <elky_work> anyway, im heading off. cyas
[07:34] <Myrtti> cya
[08:16] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[09:19] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[09:20] <Myrtti> perhaps I'll need to start drinking coffee again
[09:23] <bazhang_> [John_Nielsen] (n=chatzill@r220-101-84-40.cpe.unwired.net.au): New Now Know How
[09:24] <bazhang_> seems strangely familiar
[09:47] <bazhang_> lee[linux]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu ("bye fuckers") nice part message
[10:22] <Myrtti> /me looks at her fridge, growls
[10:22] <Myrtti> jussi01: poit
[10:44] <bazhang_> wow xchat just deopped me in #ubuntu
[10:45] <Myrtti> xchat?
[10:45] <Myrtti> o__0
[10:45] <bazhang_> oddly enough I can still op though
[10:45] <bazhang_> just the (+tncz etc) is changed
[10:46] <Myrtti> [09:44] *** mode/#ubuntu [+o bazhang_] by <ChanServ>
[10:46] <Myrtti> [09:44] < Chousuke> selocol: well, not killall
[10:46] <Myrtti> [09:44] *** mode/#ubuntu [-o bazhang_] by <ChanServ>
[10:46] <Myrtti> that's all I can see...
[10:46] <bazhang_> heh Myrtti ; opping seems to have restored it-->perhaps chanserv.py issue?
[10:46] <Myrtti> must be your client
[10:46] <Myrtti> prolly yes
[10:47] <Myrtti> lemme check rawlog
[10:47] <bazhang_> okay thanks
[10:48] <Myrtti> bwah. My rawlog doesn't extend that far
[10:49] <bazhang_> just have to wait until chanserv.py breaks completely then go to irssi :)
[11:45] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: poit
[11:51] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: how can I make a suggestion of a point in agenda for the next irc council meeting?
[11:52] <Myrtti> is there an official way of doing it?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> Myrtti: should beable to just add it i would assume <assuming IRC council meetings are for public and not just council memebers>
[12:02] <ubuntugeek> need operator from #ubuntu-ru
[12:02] <Myrtti> they're even less here than in -irc
[12:14] <Mez> hmm. poked a few of their ops about -irc
[12:14] <Myrtti> :-o
[12:15] <Myrtti> does -irc have an onjoin notice?
[12:15] <Mez> not that I know of
[12:15] <Myrtti> nope
[12:15] <Myrtti> it should have
[12:15] <Myrtti> "WELCOME TO THE UBUNTU EMBASSY"
[12:16] <Mez> lol
[12:16]  * Mez -> smoke
[12:40] <elky> mez you dont, do you?
[12:41] <Myrtti> :-o
[12:42] <Pici> elkbuntu: pm?
[12:43] <elkbuntu> Pici, when? my system hard locked before
[12:43] <Pici> elkbuntu: no, can I send you one now?
[12:43] <elkbuntu> sure
[12:44] <Mez> elkbuntu, dont what?
[12:45] <elkbuntu> smoke
[12:46] <Myrtti> ;____;
[12:46] <Mez> elkbuntu, yes, I do..
[12:47] <elkbuntu> you just ceased to be cute :(
[12:47] <Myrtti> /me slaps Mez in the back and secretly put a nicotine patch too
[12:47] <elkbuntu> (yes yes, i know i used to)
[12:47] <Myrtti> *snif*
[12:47] <Mez> elkbuntu, I was cute before ?
[12:48] <Myrtti> instant cute--;
[12:48] <Mez> elkbuntu, *shrugs* smoking is my choice...
[12:48] <elkbuntu> Mez, your hackergotchi is like cute in a japanese anime way
[12:48] <Mez> elkbuntu, er... thanks ... I think
[12:48] <elkbuntu> Mez, yes, i know.
[12:48] <Mez> and lol @ Myrtti
[12:48] <Pici> ^_^
[12:48] <elkbuntu> but smoking doesnt mesh well with anime cute
[12:49] <Myrtti> /me puts a question mark after Mez's name in her list
[12:49] <Mez> elkbuntu, hehe ... fair enough
[12:49] <Myrtti> :-P
[12:49] <Mez> LMAO @ Myrtti
[12:49] <Pici> A list eh...
[12:49] <Myrtti> ;-)
[12:49] <Myrtti> only kidding
[12:49] <Mez> Shes making a list, checking it twice...
[12:50] <Mez> elkbuntu, thanks for the cute comment - but *shrugs* I smoke.. so what? it doesnt make ANY difference whatsoever to who I am... and *shrugs* It's mainly out of boredom that I smoke to be fair ..
[12:51] <elkbuntu> i used to be the same, but it's one of those things that changes how you think of a person.
[12:51] <Pici> I agree.
[12:51] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: did you give up?
[12:51] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, it was either that or suffocate trying. gotta love chest colds
[12:51] <Hobbsee> \o/
[12:52] <Mez> elkbuntu, indeed. But then you know about smoking ;) If I want to give up - I will... I just dont see the point in doing right now.
[12:52] <Mez> Lol - I actually did give up for like - a year and a half - cause my Ex asked me to stop
[12:52] <Hobbsee> the whole 'killing you slowly' thing is irrelevant, yeah ;P
[12:52] <elkbuntu> Mez, i've only ever given up smoking by being too sick to smoke ;)
[12:52] <Mez> and the reason I started again was purely cause she started smoking ... lol - so I thought "why shouldnt I"
[12:53] <Mez> elkbuntu, and if that wasnt the case - would you still be a smoker?
[12:53] <elkbuntu> more than likely
[12:53] <Mez> fair play elkbuntu  ;)
[12:53] <Myrtti> /me cries
[12:53] <Mez> at least you're honest about it ;)
[12:53] <Myrtti> I've never tried, when my dad was in ICU two weeks ago the sight of seeing him cough made me cry
[12:54] <elkbuntu> im on public record as having scabbed a smoke off a security guard at frankfurt airport, i cant quite deny ever smoking ;)
[12:54]  * Mez is a considerate smoker - I used to go outside anyways when there wasnt the smoking ban in place...
[12:54] <Mez> I dont mind people not liking smoking, but being sealotrous about it - I dont like
[12:55]  * Pici dictionaries
[12:55] <elkbuntu> Pici, zealot might be more to what he was saying, dunno
[12:55] <Myrtti> Pici: tell me tell me
[12:55] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: haha :)
[12:56] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: yes, but if you and i didn't tell, no one would have known about that.
[12:56] <Hobbsee> wait, you blogged it.
[12:56] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, yeah
[12:56] <elkbuntu> speaking of zealotry, i need to find me microsoft people to quiz about linux fanbois.
[12:56] <Pici> Myrtti: Dictionary suggests sealords as an alternative
[12:56] <Myrtti> lol
[12:56] <elkbuntu> Mez, did you mean zealotry?
[12:57] <Mez> I meant someone who is being a zealot
[12:57] <elkbuntu> :)
[12:57] <elkbuntu> it's actually one of my favourite words
[12:57] <Myrtti> /me gives elkbuntu the email addy of her ex who used to run Finlands second most popular Linux mirror, teaching her irssi and basics of Linux, now studying as MCSE and praising MS
[12:58] <Myrtti> traitor
[12:59] <pleia2> Myrtti: my current boyfriend is a .net developer, aaah :)
[12:59] <elkbuntu> haha
[12:59] <Myrtti> pleia2: I'm running Virtualboxed XP with Visual Studio 2008 Express C# as we speak...
[12:59] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, please. im gathering data for my next talk tour
[12:59] <Myrtti> though I know jack**** about C¤
[12:59] <Hobbsee> you people apparently have bad taste in men...
[12:59]  * elkbuntu grins at Hobbsee
[12:59] <Hobbsee> :)
[13:00] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, pleia2 used to be with a gentoo user, so yeah ;)
[13:00]  * elkbuntu ducks pleia2's wrath.
[13:00] <pleia2> lol
[13:00] <Hobbsee> even that's slightly better...
[13:00] <pleia2> redhat > debian > gentoo > debian > ubunt
[13:00] <pleia2> u
[13:00] <pleia2> :)
[13:00] <Myrtti> Hobbsee: he used to be nice
[13:00] <Pici> > linspire
[13:01] <Myrtti> I hooked up with him when I had windows and he had debian.
[13:01] <elkbuntu> so debian is both better and worse than gentoo?
[13:01] <Myrtti> now it's vice cersa
[13:01] <Myrtti> versa, even
[13:01] <pleia2> elkbuntu: yes
[13:01] <elkbuntu> hehehe
[13:01] <PriceChild> elkbuntu: you can't argue with maths
[13:01] <Hobbsee> yes you can.  the maths can be wrong.
[13:02] <elkbuntu> having been working in a red hat shop the past month, i must say that im not entirely comfortable with the red hat way
[13:02] <PriceChild> maths is neva wrong
[13:02] <PriceChild> just like me
[13:02] <PriceChild> just like /me watches hobbsee's face
[13:02] <PriceChild> grrr evil irssi
[13:02] <elkbuntu> spammy spammy pricey
[13:03] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: well, the maths itself is probably never wrong.  it's those who do not understand the fine points of maths, and attempt to create more maths, whcih is wrong.
[13:03] <Pici> Its math, not maths.
[13:03] <Daviey> s/math/maths/
[13:04] <Hobbsee> Pici: other way around in this country.
[13:04] <Daviey> \o/
[13:04] <Hobbsee> damn american.
[13:04] <Pici> Well one of our countries is wrong.
[13:04] <pleia2> and ours is bigger
[13:04] <Hobbsee> yes, you who piggibacked off the americans is wrong.
[13:05] <elkbuntu> Pici, depends where you're from in this country
[13:05] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, vic still say 'math'
[13:06] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: do they?  they need further catalysing, then.
[13:06]  * Hobbsee beats wgrant with a stick
[13:09] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, im not entirely comfortable with that topic... its hard enough to have #u-w taken seriously
[13:10] <Myrtti> hold on, I've got even better idea coming
[13:10]  * Pici holds on
[13:17] <Myrtti> http://www.lyricstime.com/prince-computer-blue-lyrics.html :-o
[13:18] <Mez> Small point... the language name says it all. "English" ... from "England" - that means the correct is maths.
[13:18] <Mez> plus, simply, "math(s)" is a contraction
[13:18] <Mez> "Mathematic"
[13:18] <elkbuntu> Mez, everyone knows americans do not speak english.
[13:18] <Mez> or "Mathematics"
[13:18] <Mez> which is correct?
[13:20] <elkbuntu> Mez, i think you might find it's dependant alot on the primary contextual use. im not a linguist, so i have no idea if americans even say 'mathematics' but i'll guarantee they do say 'mathamatical' ie mathematical equation.
[13:35]  * Mez shrugs
[13:37] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, nice find with those lyrics btw
[13:38] <Myrtti> I just thought "Purple rain is every girls fave album of Prince"
[13:38] <Myrtti> chiching. Computer Blue. instant WTH
[13:38] <Myrtti> (I've never listened to him, that was a quote from some silly 80's music magazine)
[13:39] <Pici> prince scares me
[13:39] <elkbuntu> rightly so
[14:10]  * wgrant stabs elkbuntu dead.
[14:10] <wgrant> We do *not* say math.
[14:10] <elkbuntu> wgrant, every other victorian i know does
[14:10] <wgrant> elkbuntu: I don't know any who do
[14:11] <wgrant> (and that's a fairly large sample size, doing lots of engineering subjects)
[14:11] <elkbuntu> it could have changed in the time since i was in highschool, but 'math' was how all the victorians referred to mathematics back then
[14:12] <wgrant> That's not how it is now.
[14:12] <elkbuntu> good. i always wanted to stab people who said it :Þ
[14:13] <wgrant> Yep.
[14:13] <wgrant> It might have been natural selection at work.
[14:13] <elkbuntu> thank goodness you're canadian not american
[14:14] <wgrant> Indeed.
[14:14] <elkbuntu> anyway, ninite
[14:14] <wgrant> Night.
[14:23] <jussi01_> yippee
[14:25] <Myrtti> jussio1: uh-oh?
[14:25]  * jussio1 is back in Suomi :D
[14:26] <Myrtti> \o/
[14:28] <Myrtti> jussio1: please tell me you're running your system in otherwise Finnish locale but that the language is English?
[14:28] <Myrtti> pliz
[14:28] <jussio1> Myrtti: huh?
[14:28] <Myrtti> I got annoyed that my calendar starts on sunday and decided that I'll switch the locale to Finnish for everything else but the language used
[14:29] <Myrtti> Now I'm stuck somewhere between Järjestelmä, Laskin and Pääte
[14:29] <wgrant> Ääääh! Too many umlauts.
[14:29] <jussio1> Myrtti: if you are talking about my server, then I have no idea - i didnt set it up
[14:29] <Myrtti> no, your own computah
[14:30] <jussio1> ahhh
[14:30] <jussio1> Im on windows xp ... sadly atm - tell you about it when I get home though
[14:30] <Myrtti> /me whacks wgrant in the head with Ekiga-ohjelmistopuhelin
[14:31]  * wgrant falls over.
[14:31] <jussio1> I havent yet figured out how to connect via my n95 - perhaps tyou can help with that
[14:31] <Myrtti> /me rummages thru the system, finds the deadly weapon called Rytmilaatikko-musiikkisoitin and prepares for the final stroke
[14:32] <Myrtti> goddamnit I HATE THIS FINNISH SYSTEM
[14:32] <Myrtti> awful
[14:32] <wgrant> Myrtti: What's wrong with Finnish?
[14:32] <jussio1> lol
[14:33]  * jussio1 hugs Myrtti
[14:33] <Myrtti> wgrant: nothing per se if you're used to it - I'm not. When I started with Ubuntu, the translations were halfway done, and still are, it's awful to see mixed environment
[14:34] <wgrant> Ahh.
[14:34] <wgrant> I forget how complete various languages are.
[14:34] <Myrtti> and oh, if you'd only know how horrible the translation of Virtualbox OSE was in Gutsy
[14:34] <Myrtti> /me pukes
[14:34]  * jussio1 pushes Myrtti towards the translation team
[14:34]  * wgrant has no use for such virtualisation.
[14:35] <Pici> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu sort by status
[14:35] <Myrtti> jussio1: I get spammed with their mailinglist every day
[14:36] <Pici> I'm not multilingual, is it easier for you to use a Finnish translated Ubuntu than using the English one?
[14:37] <Myrtti> with the amount of time I spend in international English channels helping, no.
[14:37] <Myrtti> with the amount of time I spend googling for help, no
[14:38] <Myrtti> most of the time I even think in English
[14:38] <wgrant> I really should learn another couple of languages properly.
[14:39] <Myrtti> most of the time I don't know the Finnish equivalent of the used word
[14:39] <Myrtti> well, not most of the times, but in the software not yet translated
[14:39] <Pici> Interesting...
[14:40] <Myrtti> sometimes the Finnish ICT terminology is so horrible its easier to use techy ICT Finglish than try to grasp for plain Finnish equivalents
[14:41] <jussio1> Myrtti: Id have to agree there
[14:41] <Myrtti> everyone has an idea what you are talking about when you say proxy
[14:42] <Myrtti> "välityspalvelin" sorta... I have to translate it to English before I understand what is meant
[14:42] <Myrtti> and check if it's proxy that's meant
[14:44] <Myrtti> this terminology is so new it's not yet sunk in
[14:45] <Myrtti> perhaps after ten, twenty years "välityspalvelin" is more in use
[14:45] <Pici> jussio1: Is there any chance that I could get a copy of the bans.db from the bantracker? I'm thinking of doing some bot hacking here and I need something pre-populated.
[14:54] <jussio1> Pici: please get  Myrtti to get it for you - I cant at the moment
[14:54] <Myrtti> Pici: hold on
[15:00] <stdin> Pici: http://jussi01.com/web/tmp/bans.db (21 MB)
[15:01] <Myrtti> stdin: pm's have been invented
[15:01] <Myrtti> :-<
[15:01] <stdin> Myrtti: it's a temp link :)
[15:01] <stdin> Myrtti: but, yeah
[15:02] <Pici> stdin: Thanks
[15:02] <Pici> stdin: I'll let you know when I'm done
[15:02] <Pici> Myrtti: thanks too
[15:03] <jussio1> thanks stdin :)
[15:04] <stdin> 6MB of bans in 10 days, not bad :p
[15:04] <Pici> stdin: done
[15:05] <jussio1> ok, im off now as the battery is dead on my lappy
[15:08] <Myrtti> I HATE THIS FINNISH CRUD
[15:08] <Myrtti> ok, the translation is actually nice
[15:08] <Myrtti> but...
[15:09] <Myrtti> Tarvitsee noutaa 90,7kB arkistoista. Levytilaa kuluu 614kB purkamisen jälkeen.
[15:09] <Myrtti>                 Riippuvuudet: python-debian (>= 0.1.4) mutta se ei ole asennettavissa
[15:09] <Myrtti> Resolving dependencies...
[15:09] <Myrtti> greaaat.
[15:09] <Pici> LANG=C
[15:09] <Myrtti> Seuraavat toiminnot selvittävät nämä riippuvuudet:
[15:10] <Myrtti> export LANG=en_GB.UTF8
[15:11] <Myrtti> /me relogins to see if that does again something
[15:14] <Myrtti> nope
[15:14] <Myrtti> *sigh
[15:14] <Myrtti> /me gives up
[15:14] <Pici> Gotta put it in your ~/.profile iirc
[15:15] <Myrtti> /me stares Pici with utter incomprehension and twirls her hair around her finger
[15:15] <Myrtti> OH.

[15:15] <Myrtti> yes, I did that.
[15:15] <Pici> just now?
[15:15] <Myrtti> no, since...
[15:16] <Myrtti> since two hours, three reboots and eight relogins before
[15:17] <Myrtti> it just gets worse every boot
[15:17] <Pici> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales locales ?
[15:17]  * Pici is just guessing now
[15:17] <Myrtti> Pici: shuddup.
[15:17]  * Pici shuts up
[15:19] <Myrtti> /me looks at ther virtualized XP which asked which locale AND which language to use and works perfectly
[15:19] <Myrtti> *grumble*
[15:20] <Myrtti> stjuuuuped JUbuntu dunno nutin redneckhickey damned os
[16:35] <Seeker`> lo
[17:36] <Myrtti> Jack_Sparrow: noted
[17:36] <Jack_Sparrow> What is noted
[17:37] <Myrtti> that the $adjective that you just banned at #u is now at -ot
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> He just wouldnt quit
[17:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Hope you have better luck
[18:50] <Myrtti> /me hums
[19:04]  * Nafallo tickles Myrtti
[19:09] <Myrtti> ojdå
[20:46] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[21:03] <PriceChild> Myrtti: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820084 will cheer you up
[21:04] <Myrtti> [19:58] < socr> I do not think iptables is started in eeexubuntu, is it ?
[21:04] <Myrtti> as I said. ERRR.
[21:24] <Myrtti> PriceChild: ooooohh...
[21:24] <PriceChild> Myrtti: hmm?
[21:26] <Myrtti> /me drooools over the picture of long-haired Mark
[21:26] <Myrtti> :-o
[21:26] <Myrtti> /me wonders if she has an account at ubuntuforums
[21:27] <Myrtti> I do!
[21:29] <Myrtti> Welcome, Myrtti.
[21:30] <Myrtti> You last visited: July 23rd, 2007
[21:30] <Myrtti> lol
[21:31] <PriceChild> Bad Myrtti.
[21:34] <Myrtti> as always, I confess nothing
[21:38] <Myrtti> aaaabsolutely nothing
[21:39] <Myrtti> yes, I do know I'm naughty and all.
[21:39] <Myrtti> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5130485#post5130485
[21:40] <PriceChild> Myrtti: 7 posts?!
[21:42] <Myrtti> since I've been one of the admins in the biggest hardware forums in Finland for several years, I've started to avoid forums
[21:42] <Myrtti> especially since the collective memory of them is surpricingly long
[21:43] <Myrtti> the aforementioned forums still remembers the "triangle drama of Noseman, Myrtti and wardog" and it's been five years since that happened
[21:44] <PriceChild> i've neglected the forums lately
[21:44] <PriceChild> my	wow are you like a legend?
[21:46] <Myrtti> unfortunately yes.
[21:46] <PriceChild> were you the force for good or evil?
[21:46] <Myrtti> the forum has ~50 000 nicks.
[21:47] <Myrtti> the reason
[21:47] <Myrtti> I wrote down the first set of rules in the forum
[21:48] <Myrtti> http://keskustelu.plaza.fi/muropaketti/bbs/t376852
[21:48] <Myrtti> "Puolijumalat: Sampsa Kurri, Mikron eDome
[21:48] <Myrtti> Pyövelit: CP-Geek, Gira, Myrtti, Satai Vesa
[21:48] <Myrtti> Poliisit: banton, -Cone-, erion (ent. Hyperion), Fiiu, HWM, JtX, Juze3000, Kennedy, Mace, Midian, Sheiben, TGX, tretjakov
[21:48] <Myrtti> "semi gods: Sampsa..."
[21:49] <Myrtti> "executors: CP-Geek..."
[21:49] <Myrtti> "police: ..."
[21:58] <stdin> bd?
[21:58] <Myrtti> bangladesh.
[21:58] <Myrtti> I believe
[21:59] <stdin> looks like it, that's a TLD I've never seen before though
[22:09] <ompaul> !bot > pepperjack
[22:09] <Myrtti> baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more...
[22:09] <Myrtti> /me feels oddly young again
[22:11] <ompaul> Myrtti, compared with me ....
[22:11] <ompaul> etc
[22:13] <Myrtti> ompaul: true
[22:14] <mneptok> the year was nineteen-dickety-three ...
[22:15] <Myrtti> nope, 1980.
[22:15] <Myrtti> august.
[22:16] <mneptok> i was in high school.
[22:17] <ompaul> mneptok, that was soooooooooo long ago I can remember it
[22:18] <Myrtti> /me rolls her eyes
[22:18] <Myrtti> *gets candy*
[22:19] <Myrtti> /me forgot where her candies are, gets cookies instead
[23:49] <Seeker`> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/237852
[23:53] <Myrtti> ecuse me, but
[23:53] <Myrtti> WTF
[23:53] <Seeker`> yeah
[23:53] <Seeker`> they are wrong
[23:53] <Myrtti> oh
[23:53] <Myrtti> shlomi whatever
[23:54] <Myrtti> /ignore
[23:55] <Nafallo> Myrtti: look tomorrow. you are drunk now :-)
[23:56]  * Seeker` is tempted to comment
[23:57] <Myrtti> Nafallo: already /msg #ubuntu-women FYI: <url>