[08:28] <JamesTait> Good morning all! :-D
[09:14] <rye> mornings
[09:15] <mandel> morning all!
[09:18] <rye> well, for lucid authorization is not exactly straightforward
[09:19] <rye> mandel: O please change the uninstaller to something that realy removes everything from the system and not only a part of the program and keeps the settings. - can we do this - to ask the user whether they want to remove all the metadata, config and SSO key?
[09:20] <mandel> rye, yes it can be done, is there a bug request, feature one?
[09:20] <mandel> rye, is something I can bring up to roberto in the 1-1 and decide what to do
[09:25] <rye> mandel: filing
[09:30] <rye> mandel: bug #1022894
[09:31] <rye> mandel: another question - https://pastebin.canonical.com/69724/ - that's all I have in the files, with nothing else, nothing in exceptions log, the system simply does not appear to work properly
[09:47]  * mandel looks
[09:49] <mandel> rye, you mean it reads the metadata and nothing else happens?
[09:50] <rye> mandel: yes, eeexactly
[09:50] <mandel> rye, it does look that it never starts the filesystem monitor or sends the SYS_READY event to the state machine
[09:50] <mandel> rye, which is very very weird..
[09:50] <mandel> rye, has she/he tried the latests windows version?
[09:54] <rye> mandel: if only the log headers had real version... - I think I will ask him to provide the metadata files to try reproducing this
[09:55] <mandel> rye, wait, the version is not real?
[09:55] <mandel> wtf!?! that is a major bug in my book
[09:55] <rye> mandel: 3.0.0 is written for 3.0.2
[09:56] <rye> mandel: I poke ralsina about that already, i guess he got that assigned, don't recall to whom though
[10:09] <mandel> rye, ok, I'll take a look for you and see what we can do, maybe is brian the one that is taking care of it and he is on holidays
[11:32] <gatox> mandel, hi
[11:32] <mandel> gatox, hurray! you are here!
[11:32] <mandel> gatox, I want to talk about the fsevents work and I couple of things, can we try a g+ hangout or something of the kind
[11:33] <mandel> even mumble :)
[11:33] <gatox> mandel, yes....... i'm a little late because it seems that i got fever after the trip
[11:34] <gatox> mandel, OHHH YOU DIDN'T REVIEW MY BRANCHES!!! :(
[11:34] <gatox> mandel, we can do a hangout if you want
[11:36] <gatox> mandel, g+?
[11:36] <mandel> gatox, there is a reason I did not, besides that one of the is already blocked by alecu,
[11:36] <gatox> mumble?
[11:36] <mandel> gatox, lets try g+ so that we can take a look at code :)
[11:36] <gatox> ok
[11:37]  * gatox goes to grab some headsets
[11:37] <mandel> gatox, give me a sec I'm trying to make my internet to go faster
[11:39] <mandel> gatox, I think I just inveted you :)
[11:40] <gatox> mandel, yes, give me a sec, i need to turn on the other computer to g*
[11:40] <gatox> g+
[11:59] <gatox> mandel, me escuchas?
[11:59] <mandel> gatox, now I do :)
[11:59] <gatox> mandel, dame un segundo que me dice que vuelva a entrar
[11:59] <mandel> gatox, en la habitacion? jejeje
[12:21] <ralsina> good morning!
[12:21] <ralsina> mandel, rye: assigned it to brian, IIRC
[12:23] <gatox> ralsina, hi!
[12:23] <gatox> ralsina, mandel went to have lunch
[12:23] <mandel> ralsina, close :)
[12:23] <gatox> or not
[12:24] <mandel> I'm a little here hehehe
[12:24] <mandel> just leaving though
[12:24] <mandel> gatox, can you update ralsina on what we are doing?
[12:24] <gatox> mandel, yes
[12:24] <ralsina> please :-)
[12:24] <mandel> gatox, superb, then pair programming in an hour approx and proposing lots of branches :)
[12:26] <gatox> ralsina, so, where are doing some pair programming, because mandel found some problems when trying to integrate his changes with mine, he did some modifications, and now we were using hangout for the pair programming to change some stuff about how it was working with inheritance to integrate mandel changes with my branches and propose today all that and keep hunting people for review so we can land everything tomorrow
[12:26] <mandel> ralsina, we also have bug 1018892 which I know the reason (read the comments) but don't have the time just yet to fix it
[12:27] <ralsina> mandel: it's ok thtat bug is not urgent
[12:27] <ralsina> mandel: it's a known corner case and windows users shouldn't expect to have u1 make magic
[12:27] <mandel> ralsina, funny thing, it does sync it fails on local rescan due to abspath trying to be too smart (or lazy)
[12:28] <mandel> ok, I'm off to get energy for the pair programming
[12:28]  * mandel lunch
[12:28] <ralsina> gatox: you are having a fever? Why are you working then?
[12:29] <gatox> ralsina, it's not critical right now :P it was difficult to get up.... but i'm a little better.... and i have medicine right here! jeje
[12:30] <gatox> ralsina, if we can finish with mandel this branches I'M GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY!!
[12:30] <ralsina> gatox: conditionally... ok
[12:30] <gatox> :P
[12:30] <mandel> ralsina, uh, I forgot, broken jenkins on windows :(
[12:30] <ralsina> happiness doesn't fix temperature
[12:30] <ralsina> mandel: leave it for brian
[12:30] <gatox> ralsina, if i start feeling really bad, i'll let you know
[12:30] <gatox> i promise
[12:31] <mandel> ralsina, if gatox dies I'll have it on video, not to worry :)
[12:31] <gatox> mandel, jajajaj
[12:31] <gatox> mandel, go to have lunch!!!!!!
[12:31] <gatox> mandel, so we can start
[12:31] <mandel> ok, going going
[12:44] <rye> beuno: This script http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/src/ubuntuone-musicstore-redownload.py - parses library page and queues redownloading for missing files - is it ok to be distributed to the users?
[12:44]  * beuno redirects rye
[12:44] <rye> i mean whether there are any objections
[12:45] <rye> Please wait while rye is being redirected
[12:45]  * rye redirects here
[12:49] <dobey> rye: uh… you just did?
[12:51] <rye> dobey: ?
[12:51] <dobey> rye: well, you just pasted the link in the public irc :)
[12:52] <rye> dobey: yes, don't tell beun0 about that :) but I got +1 from him
[12:52] <rye> screenscraping is fun
[13:14] <daveonearth> You developer types are proper nuts....
[13:14] <daveonearth> that script was nuts
[13:19] <dobey> heh
[13:20] <daveonearth> I mean it with awe
[13:20] <daveonearth> Dunno how you have the patience for such intense maths
[13:20] <daveonearth> Jealous
[13:20] <daveonearth> I am
[13:21]  * dobey really doesn't do all that much math in programming
[13:23]  * daveonearth thinks it's all math in the end, binary?
[13:23] <dobey> well, if i had to type 1s and 0s all day, i'm sure i would be locked in an asylum somewhere by now
[13:31]  * mandel back
[13:32] <mandel> dobey, aren't you.. what a disappointment :)
[13:32] <mandel> gatox, I'm ready, shall we fix all the mess we have?
[13:32] <gatox> mandel, ack
[13:32] <mandel> gatox, actually, I should have a 1-1 with ralsina, let see if I can do it know
[13:32] <mandel> ralsina, got time?
[13:33] <gatox> ok
[13:33] <ralsina> mandel: no, on call
[13:33] <mandel> ralsina, then later :)
[13:33] <mandel> gatox, lets do it!
[13:33] <ralsina> mandel:can we do it in about 90 minutes?
[13:33] <mandel> ralsina, sure, no problem
[13:34] <gatox> mandel, i sent the invitation
[13:44] <daveonearth> Guys is Roberta here?
[13:47] <daveonearth> I just wanna say that it would be an honour to earn a living working for canonical, and with such talented and caring individuals.
[13:47] <daveonearth> thats my butt kiss for the day
[13:47] <beuno> daveonearth, she isn't around here at the moment, no
[13:47] <beuno> email is probably best
[14:21] <dobey> brb.
[14:50] <rye> facundobatista: hi, I dropped local metadata and subscribed to a folder - syncdaemon got all files downloaded properly but one
[14:50] <rye> facundobatista: after traceback Download() appears in waiting operations with running=False
[14:53] <dobey> back
[14:55] <facundobatista> rye, did you have a Traceback?
[14:56] <rye> facundobatista: i have all the logs
[14:57] <facundobatista> rye, wonderful, mind to send to alecu (put me in copy)? thanks!
[14:58] <rye> facundobatista: okay
[15:00] <thisfred> me
[15:01] <mandel> me
[15:01] <gatox> me
[15:02] <mmcc> me
[15:03] <dobey> me
[15:03] <thisfred> alecu, ralsina, briancurtin bob?
[15:04] <thisfred> DONE: Bug #1022659  TODO: Bug #1022659 BLOCKED: no NEXT: mandel
[15:04] <mandel> DONE: Pycon EU. Bug triagging with elopio. Refactoring to get fsevents and fsevents-daemon implementations work together. Pair programming with gatox to get all the work done by today.
[15:04] <mandel> TODO: more pair programming.
[15:04] <mandel> BLOCKED: no
[15:04] <mandel> gatox, go
[15:04] <gatox> DONE:
[15:04] <gatox> PyCamp, propose branches for darwin fsevents, and fsevents tests refactoring for windows and darwin. Start pair programming with mandel to reduce the code and improve the integration with his fsevents daemon.
[15:04] <gatox> TODO:
[15:04] <gatox> Finish with the pair programming tasks and propose the branches.
[15:04] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[15:04] <gatox> No
[15:04] <gatox> mmcc, go
[15:05] <mmcc> DONE: a couple versions of an exe-finding prototype for dirspec, discussion
[15:05] <mmcc> TODO: more, finish the above
[15:05] <mmcc> BLCK: sick, going to powerthru
[15:05] <mmcc> NEXT: dobey
[15:05] <dobey> DONE: reviews, u1db nightlies, bug #1021854, SRU uploads
[15:05] <dobey> TODO: finish reviewing mmcc's dirspec branch, 3.0.3 backports/release?
[15:05] <dobey> BLCK: None.
[15:05] <dobey> ralsina?
[15:05] <mmcc> oh I forgot, today is my review day - send me reviews
[15:06] <thisfred> yes, yes, send all reviews to mmcc! ;)
[15:06] <dobey> mmcc, thisfred: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/dirspec/run-tests-license/+merge/113787
[15:07] <thisfred> +1
[15:07] <mmcc> +1
[15:08] <ralsina> sorry,busy morning
[15:08] <ralsina> not done much since I was away friday and morning.
[15:09] <ralsina> and spent morning reading mail and phoning
[15:16] <dobey> ok, need to get lunch
[15:16] <dobey> bbiab
[15:34] <MarkusH> Hi
[15:35] <MarkusH> I'm using the UbuntuOne RESTful/OAuth API. Is there any documentation about the HTTP response codes?
[15:41] <mmcc> Hi MarkusH. I'm not aware of anything aside from what's on http://one.ubuntu.com/developer/ - but I'm not your best source
[15:41] <mmcc> I think aquarius is the person to ask, but I also think he's off today. anyone else know?
[15:44] <MarkusH> mmcc: thanks
[15:54] <rye> MarkusH: 200 for OK, 201 for created, 500 for internal server errors, 412 for out-of-storage-space (repurposed Payment required), 404 for not found. Are you getting a different response?
[15:55] <rye> MarkusH: 402 payment required, sorry
[15:55] <rye> 401 - unauthorized
[16:04] <ralsina> lunch time for me
[16:05] <rye> can we make zeitgeist integration optional? It is making my machine extremely slow and I am fairly sure I am not using the fruits of this integration
[16:11] <mmcc> thisfred, trivial review for you: https://code.launchpad.net/~mikemc/ubuntu-sso-client/fix-1023043-buildout-in-test/+merge/114225
[16:12] <thisfred> on it
[16:13] <thisfred> mmcc,  +1
[16:14] <mmcc> thanks thisfred. anyone else want a 20-second review? or should I just set it..?
[16:15] <thisfred> mmcc, I think one review is fine for this, but I don't know if tarmac requires 2. dobey?
[16:22] <mandel> gatox, I'm ready when ever you are :)
[16:22] <mandel> ralsina, how free are you in time?
[16:23] <gatox> mandel, ready
[16:23] <gatox> mandel, are you going to have your 1-1 now?
[16:24] <mandel> gatox, lets see what ralsina says, if he takes longer than 10 min lets continue :)
[16:25] <gatox> ack
[16:26] <dobey> thisfred: it just requires no pending or negative reviews
[16:27] <mmcc> thanks dobey, saw you launched that one
[16:28] <gatox> mandel, just a sec.... i need to make a call
[16:28] <mandel> np
[16:30] <gatox> mandel, ready when you are
[16:31] <mandel> gatox, ok, lets do it :)
[16:32] <mandel> gatox, you send the invite?
[16:32] <gatox> yes
[16:43] <dobey> oi, the rain
[16:44] <dobey> feels like i'm in London, but with a higher temperature
[16:50] <mmcc> regarding today's removal of the gtk sso client gui - was there ever a third choice? the code in credentials.py now looks at two places - self.ui_executable and UI_EXECUTABLE_QT, and self.ui_executable defaults to UI_EXECUTABLE_QT
[16:53] <mmcc> I ask because I'm going to have to change that code to use the new executable finder code, and if we really only ever launch one executable, now would be a good time to make that change
[16:57] <mandel> gatox, paste.ubuntu.com/1084807
[16:57] <dobey> mmcc: it's not only one exectuable
[16:58] <dobey> mmcc: the gtk ui is now in software-center as software-center-sso-login or something, and it specifies it should be the program to run
[16:58] <mmcc> dobey, ah, ok. so it wasn't removed, just moved. cool
[16:59] <dobey> mmcc: and the code allows anyone to install their own gui for sso and have it be run instead; so we can't just kill all that api in favor of one gui program, either way
[17:02] <mmcc> dobey, ack. looks like it assumes they're installing any new GUI in the same place as ubuntu-sso-login-qt, though.
[17:02] <dobey> mmcc: s/assumes/requires/
[17:02] <mmcc> dobey: gotcha. OK, I'll make sure I don't break that.
[17:02] <dobey> mmcc: which is why sso has the bin path thing
[17:24] <dobey> mmcc: hrmm, maybe it will be easier for me to explain, in code; how i feel about your dirspec branch :)
[17:25] <mmcc> dobey, no arguments here. I just want progress…
[17:26] <dobey> mmcc: so say we all
[17:34] <ralsina> why oh why is the flder list empty in quantal, is what I wonder
[17:37] <mmcc> lunch…
[17:40] <dobey> ralsina: and why only for some people
[17:43] <ralsina> dobey: well, one of them is me
[17:43] <ralsina> dobey: which may or may not help getting it fixed
[17:44] <dobey> you're running quantal?
[17:44] <dobey> ralsina: can you try running it with the option to make it do the windows drawing thing
[17:44] <ralsina> sure
[17:44] <ralsina> the VM is updating though
[17:54] <dobey> doh. didn't make a separate /home on my dell duo
[18:57] <mmcc> mandel, so I guess you'll be wanting a review for that clean-fsevents merge? I'll go take a look
[18:58] <mandel> mmcc, please, is a complicated branch with a number of code refactors :)
[18:58] <mandel> and with that, EOD here, is kinda late already :)
[19:02] <mmcc> hm, a 2,027 line diff. what's the going rate for overages on reviews?
[19:06] <gatox> mmcc, launchpad has some problems with maths 2027 lines (+438/-535)...... or i don't understand how it calculates that: 438+535=973
[19:07] <gatox> mmcc, 2027 is counting even the white lines..... where is not difference there
[19:07] <mmcc> gatox, it's not launchpad, I was including the context lines in the diff it shows
[19:07] <gatox> mmcc, yes, that ^^
[19:08] <mmcc> either way, I don't mind. looks like most of it is just renaming things
[19:09] <gatox> yes
[19:22] <dobey> mmcc: https://code.launchpad.net/~mikemc/dirspec/add-exefind/+merge/113782/comments/245458
[19:26] <mmcc> dobey, looking...
[19:30] <mmcc> dobey, I like it, it's a nicer general API. It makes the calling code do more work, since it just uses the fallback path and doesn't search around, but now that I think about it, that's probably good - the calling code can probably do that more simply than a general function can...
[19:33] <mmcc> dobey, do you want to go ahead and propose that branch, so I can fix up my sso and u1client branches to use it?
[19:38] <dobey> sure
[19:38] <dobey> well, after a fashion i guess. need to tweak docstrings and such still :)
[19:39] <dobey> and have to run right now. brb
[19:40] <mmcc> ok, sounds good.
[19:57] <mmcc> gatox, I have a simple question - why remove the memento logging in test_windows? unless I'm missing something, that doesn't seem to be related to the rest of this branch...
[19:58] <gatox> mmcc, can you poinnt me to the line?
[19:59] <mmcc> gatox, there are many - search for _assert_logs
[20:01] <gatox> mmcc, ahhhh yes, that wasn't really a good way to test that, and it was really fragil, it was depending on the strings of the logs to see where the process went, but you are already testing that with the different situatioons of the tests.....
[20:01] <gatox> mmcc, anyway, if you find that this function should be there, let us know
[20:01] <gatox> mmcc, maybe we are missing sommething
[20:03] <mmcc> gatox: well, this is the first time I'm seeing that, so I don't know why it was added. I agree that tests of log messages don't seem great. It just seemed like it was a change that belonged on a different branch, and I wanted to know if I was wrong about that
[20:03] <mmcc> brb
[20:03] <gatox> mmcc, nono, it was because of that reason i explained.....
[20:33] <mmcc> gatox, in your mac test setup, where do you put the macfsevents lib? we should probably add it to the buildout
[20:34] <gatox> mmcc, yes, we should.... i haven't found the time to do that yet, we are using this fork of macfsevents: lp:~diegosarmentero/+junk/python-macfsevents
[20:34] <mmcc> gatox, thanks. I didn't realize we'd forked it - what changes did you make?
[20:37] <gatox> mmcc, some changes involving the latency..... and other stuff to ensure that the watch has been started before returning, also fixing some problems when you add the watch and instantly after that some new file event is produced, to not lose that data
[20:38] <mmcc> gatox, ok, cool
[20:44] <mmcc> gatox, are you guys only running a subset of the tests? I'm getting a ton of failures
[20:44] <dobey> what is the preferred way of specifying function arguments in docstrings?
[20:44] <mmcc> (on darwin)
[20:44] <ralsina> school run, gotta go, will be back late tonight
[20:44] <ralsina> bye!
[20:45] <gatox> mmcc, for darwin we are only running tests/platform/filesystem_notifications/test_darwin.py for that branch..... the next branch, that i'm adapting to mandel's changes allows to run all the tests in filesystem_notifications
[20:45] <mmcc> ah, ok thanks gatox
[20:50] <mmcc> gatox, to be sure I understand - so when mandel's daemon code lands, it will be a second platform_watch implementation, is that right?
[20:50] <gatox> mmcc, yes
[20:52] <dobey> grr, python.
[21:03] <flodin> if i store files in ubuntu one, what jurisdiction controls access to them and where are they geographically stored?
[21:12] <mmcc> hi flodin, let's ping rye about this - his name is on a wiki page that might have the most recent answer…
[21:12] <dobey> mmcc: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/dirspec/add-exefind/+merge/114273
[21:14] <mmcc> dobey, looking now
[21:16] <flodin> mmcc: hi, ok thanks
[21:16] <dobey> rye is hopefully not around right now; it's pretty late where he is :)
[21:17] <rye> mmcc: huh?
[21:17] <mmcc> rye, I was talking about the page at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/TechnicalDetails
[21:18] <rye> flodin: geographically the storage is located in the United States of America, on Amazon S3 Servers
[21:19] <flodin> ok
[21:19] <flodin> i think S3 has servers outside of the US too, though
[21:20] <flodin> but maybe those aren't used in this case
[21:26] <dobey> hrmm, should probably try to get all the docstrings in dirspec cleaned up and working well in sphinx
[21:33] <dobey> ok, need to head off. have a good evening all
[22:18] <gatox> ok..... enough for me today...... need to rest..... bye!
[23:32] <mmcc> time to go


[02:59] <Admiral[m]> EdgyMC_69:  what's your address configuration ? Method : automatic or automatic (addresses)?
[03:29] <IrcsomeBot1> Chandra Sekhar was added by: Chandra Sekhar
[03:31] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chandra Sekhar> Hi please tell me...I ran some command then my kubuntu changed to Ubuntu version which is redicules version , how to go back to previous version ? So that my files should not be deleted ?
[03:35] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chandra Sekhar> Please help me I am new to kununtu
[03:35] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chandra Sekhar> Kubuntu*
[04:14] <Admiral[m]> Chandra Sekhar  :what version are you on?
[04:29] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chandra Sekhar> It is showing Ubuntu 18.10
[04:30] <Admiral[m]> Chandra Sekhar and what's the problem? You didn't want to update?
 Sound like you ran sudo apt install gnome.  Try: sudo apt install plasma-desktop
 Log out then log back in...
[06:18] <isomari> I'm trying to install tuptime but I kep getting: *** update-locale: Error: invalid locale settings:  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE="en_USA:en" LC_ALL="en_US"
[06:39] <johnnay> Hi. I am using Kubuntu 18.04.2 now. It is awesome.
[06:40] <isomari> I'm trying to install tuptime but I kep getting: *** update-locale: Error: invalid locale settings:  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE="en_USA:en" LC_ALL="en_US"
[06:41] <isomari> johnnay: I'm using Disco Dingo (19.10). That's awesome :-)
[06:53] <johnnay> isomari: please provide a detailed list of the changes from 18.04 to 19.1. thank you.
[06:58] <isomari> johnnay: I don't know how detailed u\you want it but: https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-19-04-release-features/
[06:58] <isomari> johnnay: I upgraded from cosmic.
[06:59] <isomari> so far not one problem after 2 weeks
[07:00] <isomari> oh, I'm using kubuntu of course.
[07:02] <johnnay> great
[10:22] <Don-Phil> who
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:06] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chandra Sekhar> I solved my Problem..sorry
[14:07] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chandra Sekhar> I am new to kununtu...please help me
[14:07] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chandra Sekhar> What are the necessary commands I should run , after  installing kubuntu?
[14:09] <diogenes_> Chandra Sekhar, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Chandra Sekhar  sudo apt update && sudo upgrade to get the latest package versions
[14:10] <BluesKaj> oops Chandra Sekhar, use diogenes_ command
[14:11] <BluesKaj> forgot apt in the upgrade :-)
[14:46] <freeskif> Hi all. How config proxychains4? I write my socks5 server in /usr/local//etc/proxychains.conf but not worked.
[14:46] <freeskif> proxychains4 ping ya.ru
[14:46] <freeskif> [proxychains] config file found: /usr/local//etc/proxychains.conf
[14:46] <freeskif> [proxychains] preloading /usr/local//lib/libproxychains4.so
[14:46] <freeskif> PING ya.ru (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[14:46] <freeskif> ^C
[14:47] <freeskif> --- ya.ru ping statistics ---
[15:03] <Roey> Hello all, anyone here use Virtualbox?  I was given a boot USB stick to install Windows from; I'm installing Windows on a VM client, and i want it to boot off of that USB ssd thumb drive.
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Roey, not sure if windows can be installed from a usb stick, I tried that and it wouldn't boot, so i had to use a an optical disk
[15:07] <Roey> hmm. ok
[15:08] <BluesKaj> maybe the guys over at #windows can help if you don't have a dvdrom drive
[15:10] <Roey> ok thanks
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Roey, try woeusb
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Roey, https://github.com/slacka/WoeUSB
[15:13]  * Roey clicks
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Roey, or you can just make a fat32 stick and copy the files across
[15:14] <Roey> I don't understand
[15:14] <BluesKaj> not the image but the files inside the image
[15:15] <Roey> BluesKaj: copy files across from where to where?
[15:15] <Roey> BluesKaj: the only thbing I see to do is make  a DVD image and boot off of that in the virtual guest
[15:15] <Roey> I already have the USB stick
[15:15] <BluesKaj> from the windows image/iso
[15:15] <Roey> I have the USB stick, i need to make an .iso out of it
[15:16] <Roey> that's what I think I need to do here.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> no
[15:16] <Roey> my coworker put windows on a usb stick.  I can't find Windows on it / I assume it's a bootable stick
[15:16] <Roey> brb
[15:16] <BluesKaj> you have a windows iso right ?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> somewhere
[15:19] <Roey> BluesKaj: I just checked the entire SSD for it.. I can't find it.  I think my coworker just put on MS Office there.. (had asked him to put on MS Windows as well)
[15:20] <Roey> BluesKaj: otherwise I would have copied that entire .iso
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Roey, hang on I'm asking the windows experts ..brb
[15:39] <BluesKaj> Roey, sudo mount /dev/loop0 /cdrom" and copy the files in /cdrom to wherever you mounted the usb
[15:39] <Roey> ok
[15:39] <BluesKaj> ignore the quote in your command
[15:39] <Roey> ok
[15:39] <Roey> ohhhh I see
[15:40] <Roey> anbd then what?
[15:41] <BluesKaj>  check if the usb mounts inside the vm to install
[15:43] <Roey> ok
[15:43] <Roey> thank you BluesKaj
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Roey, you can thank me if it works :-)
[15:49] <Roey> ok :)
[15:49] <Roey> I don't think Windows is on this /at all/ actually
[18:51] <kell> I have a question if someone might be able to help out. Mounted a kubuntu image to a partition on my thumb drive and ran through the installer after booting from it. After the installation was complete I re-booted into it - but it just re-started the installation process and asked me to install again. Is there some cleanup I need to do after installation before re-booting into it?
[18:51] <kell> I've been searching around but can't seem to find any answers, thought I'd ask here :-/
[19:08] <Brandon{ACS}> Sounds like maybe after the reboot you are just hitting the usb drive installer again. Remove the drive and see if the system boots
[19:11] <kubuntu> siema siema kurdje elo
[19:54] <Alexfrench> i think yhe partition isn't bootable so ??
[19:55] <Alexfrench> it try to reinstall
[19:55] <bprompt> ?
[20:30] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chandra Sekhar> Please help me...how to connect aws ec2 from dolpin file explorer?
[20:35] <Alexfrench> lol


[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #107110 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Ubuntu with Nvidia crashes when loading beryl, glxgears, etc..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107110
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #102781 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "display does not repaint on resume with desktop effects" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102781
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #80303 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "returning from suspend disables/crashes mouse (dup-of: 59867)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80303
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #67551 in totem (main) "Movies are too bright (dup-of: 32963)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/67551
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #58323 in xorg (main) "System hangs when i choose screensaver AntSpotlight" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/58323
[05:38] <ubotu> New bug: #59204 in xorg (main) "Black screen after boot (nvidia)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/59204
[05:52] <ubotu> New bug: #66412 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Frequently no interrupts from /dev/nvidia0 in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/66412
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #76108 in xorg (main) "Flakey graphics colours kubuntu edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76108
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #18469 in xserver-xorg-video-tdfx (main) "Distorted output when using Xv" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/18469
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #29419 in xserver-xorg-video-tdfx (main) "Blurred and chipped Video image " [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/29419
[01:02] <tepsipakki> hmm, maybe release notes should mention that ATI X1xx owners can't use the livecd
[01:03] <tepsipakki> it's a driver bug apparently
[01:04] <tepsipakki> in vesa
[01:29] <ubotu> New bug: #106983 in xorg (main) "Screen corruption on feisty live cd" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106983
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107231 in xorg (main) "X crash at gnome's startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107231
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #63362 in xorg (main) "Viewsonic VA1912w Series Monitor not correctly installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/63362
[03:49] <ubotu> New bug: #66803 in xorg (main) "No support for via video driver on Averatec 2260" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/66803
[03:49] <ubotu> New bug: #68043 in xorg (main) "Applying gamma settings in Monitor and Display disables direct rendering with Edgy 6.10 RC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/68043
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #56427 in xorg-server "Fatal crash on X startup on Ultra 10" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56427
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #57107 in xorg (main) "keyboard-layout Belgian-other-iso: no closing bracket [" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57107
[04:04] <tepsipakki> Mithrandir: I know the answer, but this patch would fix bug 89853 http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/dpkg/xorg-server.debdiff2
[04:04] <ubotu> Malone bug 89853 in xorg-server "[regression]  7.2 broke vesa: "No matching modes found"" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89853
[04:06] <Mithrandir> -updates.
[04:07] <tepsipakki> ok, then we need to put in the relnotes that owners of such laptops need to use the alternate-cd?
[04:07] <tepsipakki> to install
[04:08] <tepsipakki> is the wiki-page free for editing?
[04:08] <ubotu> New bug: #83809 in xorg (main) "Desktop noise on Edgy Installation with nvidia 6600GT" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83809
[04:08] <tepsipakki> s/free/open/
[04:10] <Mithrandir> yes, if there are no current locks, it is free to edit.
[04:11] <tepsipakki> right, I'll add a notice about the issue
[04:32] <ubotu> New bug: #107243 in xorg (main) "XServer failed on live cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107243
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #12301 in xorg (main) "monitor off at boot is bad" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12301
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #55445 in xorg (main) "Installer freeze unpacking xserver-xorg" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/55445
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #102356 in xorg "xubuntu 704 screen resolution incorrectly set" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102356
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #47350 in xorg (main) "X doesn't use proper refresh" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47350
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #47794 in xorg (main) "[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for ... (dup-of: 47371)" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47794
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #49557 in xorg (main) "Loss of video during install!!!" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/49557
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #52195 in xorg (main) "xorg fails to upgrade if  program installed in /usr/X11R6/bin" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/52195
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #50992 in xorg (main) "Vesa driver in xorg.conf for Intel 82852/855GM by default" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50992
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #51285 in xorg (main) "X hangs on startup on Imac G5 1.8 Ghz (dup-of: 23445)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/51285
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #47579 in xorg (main) "Logitech MX518 mouse does not work completely" [Wishlist,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47579
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #56100 in xorg (main) "regression: poor X11 performance on Dell Latitude D810" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56100
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #57914 in xorg (main) "xorg crashes when viewing long text lines" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57914
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106365 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "wrong Kernel Modul with Nvidia-GLX " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106365
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #34697 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "kernel panic when X server terminates" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/34697
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #57817 in xorg-server (main) "Upgrade to  1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 buggy" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57817
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107301 in xorg (main) "Xorg crashes on boot w/ vesa" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107301
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #107320 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (universe) "Large font in the GDM login text field after installing xserver-xorg-video-intel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107320
[11:03] <ubotu> New bug: #107115 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "log out or switch user results in crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107115
[11:27] <kylem> tepsipakki, pingaling?
[11:28] <tepsipakki> pongaling
[11:28] <kylem> tepsipakki, i hear from ajax that you might have a vesa patch that should help on r5xx gpus?
[11:28] <tepsipakki> for xorg-server, yes
[11:28] <kylem> did you upload? BenC has a symptomatic machine it would be good to test on.
[11:29] <tepsipakki> see bug 89853
[11:29] <ubotu> Malone bug 89853 in xorg-server "[regression]  7.2 broke vesa: "No matching modes found"" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89853
[11:29] <kylem> thanks!
[11:29] <tepsipakki> there's a link to the package
[11:30] <tepsipakki> np, too bad I didn't debug this earlier.. the bug is old enough
[11:30] <kylem> it's cool
[11:30] <kylem> did you talk to Mith/colin about delaying feisty over it?
[11:31] <tepsipakki> it's going to -updates
[11:31] <kylem> k.
[11:31] <tepsipakki> so, yes
[11:31] <kylem> thanks!
[11:33] <tepsipakki> ..yes I did talk, no feisty will not be delayed ;)
[11:33] <kylem> hehe.
[11:34] <tepsipakki> almost 40 xorg bugs closed/reassigned today.. whee, lot of low-hanging fruits
[11:34] <kylem> :)
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #56268 in xorg (main) "xorg wrongly rewrites xorg.conf on detection of new PCI card" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56268
[12:04] <ubotu> New bug: #54108 in xorg (main) "No Resolution CHeck" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54108


[00:57] <paultag> akgraner: howdy, friendo
[00:57] <akgraner> paultag, hey!
[00:57] <akgraner> how are ya - have you recovered?
[00:57] <akgraner> :-)
[00:57] <paultag> akgraner: mostly :)
[00:57] <paultag> akgraner: have a minute?
[00:57] <akgraner> yeppers
[03:11] <nigelb> good morning :)
[03:11] <akgraner> JFo - looks like the videos were on my phone
[03:11] <akgraner> pete is going to see if he can pull them off  - but right now  - I am not seeing a way to..:-(
[03:13] <nhandler> akgraner: You can't send them via bluetooth?
[03:14] <akgraner> the phone is bricked
[03:14] <akgraner> it won't boot
[03:14] <akgraner> samsung update screwed it up this morning  - it won't go into the boot loader now
[03:15] <akgraner> I think the data is safe but I can't seem to get to it at the moment
[03:16] <akgraner> I am getting a new phone from T-mobile this week I have all the info on the SD card but the info that was stored on the phone is another story :-(  so sad
[03:18] <nhandler> :(
[03:19] <akgraner> I know right :-/  if you have the Samsung Galaxy S don't use the Samsung upgrade wait for the the t-mobile over the air one
[03:21] <akgraner> But on a goof note - I submitted my OSCON talk :-)  nothing like waiting til the last minute  - Whew!
[03:26] <nigelb> ooooooh, on today's google doodle, if you move down, you can see narwhals!
[03:26] <nigelb> WIN
[03:32] <JFo> akgraner, :-(
[03:33] <akgraner> JFo I know..but can't dwell on it - just moving on as there is nothing to see here...
[06:57] <dpm> good morning all
[06:57] <nigelb> morning dpm :)
[07:06] <nigelb> hey dholbach :)
[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[07:06] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[07:06] <nigelb> (for the first time, before he wishes)
[07:06] <nigelb> ;)
[07:08] <dpm> good morning nigelb
[07:08] <dpm> morgen dholbach
[07:08] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:09] <dholbach> ¿qué tal?
[07:09] <dpm> bé, bé, gràcies :) i tu?
[07:10] <dholbach> muy bien, gracias :)
[07:10] <dpm> :)
[07:10] <dholbach> dpm, you're trying to confuse me! :)
[07:10] <dpm> life would be boring otherwise!
[07:11] <dholbach> I should try to reply Austrian the next time
[07:11] <dholbach> although they have their own country :-P
[07:11] <dholbach> I guess that was mean ;-)
[07:12] <dpm> it's just a matter of time until we conquer Europe
[07:14] <nigelb> lol
[07:17] <nigelb> why is my ssh session not utf8? :(
[07:18] <Tm_T> sorry, I think I switched the wrong bit
[08:03] <kim0> Morning
[08:03] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:03] <kim0> dholbach: hey man
[08:03] <nigelb> hola kim0, ara :)
[08:03] <kim0> nigelb: howdy
[08:04] <ara> morning nigelb, kim0
[08:04] <kim0> ara: morning o/
[08:07] <nigelb> JFo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0hfg1htnM4
[08:16] <AlanBell> is that a soothing lullaby?
[08:16] <popey> not _quite_
[08:17] <nigelb> Not exactly.
[08:17] <popey> I think it's some old fart claiming that music was good back in his day :)(
[08:19] <nigelb> hah
[08:20] <doctormo> popey: Everything was better back in my dad.
[08:21] <doctormo> day*
[08:21] <AlanBell> they don't make typos like they used to
[08:21] <doctormo> The music from the Spice girls and S-Club7 just can't be beaten with the likes of modern sell-outs.
[10:18] <duanedesign> morning friends
[10:22] <nigelb> morning duanedesign
[10:23] <duanedesign> hello :)
[10:23] <duanedesign> fixing to get more snow :\
[10:24] <duanedesign> yesterday was the first day in a week that everything was open from the last storm
[10:24] <duanedesign> i hope we get far less then anticipated
[12:36] <duanedesign> I want to search all the members of the Beginners Team and find who is also a member of Bug Control. Is there a script that exists that does something like this?
[12:44] <dholbach> duanedesign, nigelb is working on a similar script for loco teams and the developer team
[12:44] <dholbach> I think it's almost finished
[12:46] <duanedesign> thank you
[12:55] <duanedesign> the google logo today is pretty cool.
[12:55] <nigelb> duanedesign: I should post it in a couple of days :)
[12:56] <nigelb> duanedesign: I hate querying lp.  takes 5 minutes to test one change :p
[12:57] <duanedesign> oh cool thank you nigelb
[12:58] <dholbach> nigelb, I organised a few people for UDW
[12:59] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable - there's still a couple of empty slots
[13:29]  * kim0 away -all → Dentist appointment
[13:57] <jcastro> buenas mornings!
[13:57] <popey> YO!
[13:57] <czajkowski> ohh
[13:57]  * czajkowski hugs jcastro
[13:57] <czajkowski> ALOHA!
[13:59] <Pici> howdy
[14:00] <czajkowski> ▞▀▖▌  ▞▀▖▌ ▌▞▀▖
[14:00] <czajkowski> ▙▄▌▌  ▌ ▌▙▄▌▙▄▌
[14:00] <czajkowski> ▌ ▌▌  ▌ ▌▌ ▌▌ ▌
[14:00] <czajkowski> ▘ ▘▀▀▘▝▀ ▘ ▘▘ ▘
[14:00] <czajkowski> that's ye all done :)
[14:01] <Pici> :)
[14:20] <duanedesign> morning all
[14:33] <nigelb> dholbach: super
[14:33] <nigelb> dholbach: let me see if I can fill the rest up ;)
[14:58] <vish> jcastro: whenever someone asks about why we are not updating gnome, i tell them that there is not much manpower to handle both unity and gnome this cycle . for which i get flamed that a new UI is more work and that manpower is less is not a valid argument.. :s  how are you handling these questions?
[14:58] <vish> ie, what can I answer better? :D
[15:01] <vish> i just eventually give up and say, "I'm just the messenger" :)
[15:01] <jcastro> well, I send them to this
[15:01] <jcastro> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-January/002740.html
[15:01] <jcastro> and then tell them we can't update to gnome3 AND deliver GNOME2 as a fallback
[15:01] <jcastro> it's either one of the other
[15:01] <vish> yea.. thats my fave bookmark
[15:01] <nigelb> hehe
[15:02] <jcastro> and if they think it's easy then they can join the team and show everyone how easy it is
[15:02] <jcastro> :)
[15:02] <jcastro> ditto for "why not make another ISO"
[15:02] <vish> yea!
[15:02] <jcastro> or "where is gnomebuntu"
[15:02] <jcastro> or "why doesn't the ppa work yet"
[15:02] <nigelb> Note to self:  Never argue with jcastro.
[15:02] <nigelb> ;)
[15:04] <nigelb> jcastro: hey, is it possible to schedule one of those Q and A sessions we had lately during UDW?
[15:04] <nigelb> Those are Cannonifolk, so I'm not so sure abuot barging in and asking them
[15:04] <jcastro> yeah
[15:04] <jcastro> basically the same thing jason and I did for userdays we can do again for UDW
[15:04] <jcastro> except for developers
[15:06] <jcastro> nigelb: just ask them, UDW is a community event
[15:07] <nigelb> jcastro: okay :)
[15:33] <akgraner> jcastro, have those QA been moved officially to ubuntu-classroom and ubuntu-classroom-chat
[15:35] <akgraner> I am working on a blog post and wanted to make sure I got the information on where to send people to listed correctly - jcastro - I'm only asking you b/c well you are da man with all the answers :-D
[15:35] <jcastro> it's a normal UDW event
[15:35] <jcastro> so yeah, awesome by default
[15:36] <akgraner> I was asking b/c of lasts weeks -meeting debacle for the kernel QA
[15:36] <akgraner> and Robbie is up next on the schedule for the 11th
[15:37] <akgraner> so sorry wasn't asking about the UDW events but the Canonical QA stuffs :-)
[15:37] <vish> hmm, would taking a "Taking bite out of Unity" be a good title for jcastro's session.. ;)
[15:38] <nigelb> vish: ooh, changing.
[15:38] <akgraner> dholbach, did you see the email I cc'd you on for Ubuntu Development?  I'm getting more and more "How can I get started questions" so I think I got all the links right.
[15:55] <nigelb> haha, I keep recruiting people for UDW and I end up taking a session ;)
[16:04] <czajkowski> akgraner: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2011-February/028700.html
[16:04] <czajkowski> bah
[16:05] <czajkowski> akgraner: https://twitter.com/#!/ArmyWives/statuses/35005656062898176
[16:05] <akgraner> czajkowski, looking now
[16:06] <akgraner> sweet!
[16:06] <czajkowski> :D
[16:25] <vish> ooh! nice to see jcastro dint nominate himself for the askubuntu mods.. :)  its like giving others chance to shine :)
[16:26] <vish> i'm like where can i vote for jcastro !! and ah! he aint here..
[16:27] <nigelb> vish: where do we vote?
[16:27] <vish> http://askubuntu.com/election/1?tab=election
[16:27] <nigelb> thanks
[16:28] <nigelb> 17.k repution? wow
[16:29] <dholbach> akgraner, thanks a lot
[16:29] <nigelb> dholbach: I may have increased the size of your inbox by 2, but the schedule looks fuller now
[16:30] <jcastro> dholbach: hey you know at the sprint how we layed out all the IRC weeks, do you have those?
[16:30] <dholbach> thanks Nigel! :)
[16:30] <jcastro> we should probably give those to the -classroom team
[16:30] <dholbach> jcastro, no, aren't they in the calendar
[16:30] <dholbach> ?
[16:30] <jcastro> which calendar?
[16:31] <akgraner> hey jono - you moved the Canonical Manager QA from Ubuntu-meeting to Ubuntu-classroom officially didn't you?
[16:31] <dholbach> our team calendar?
[16:32]  * akgraner is blogging and wants to make sure I get it right :-)
[16:32] <jono> akgraner, yep
[16:32] <akgraner> k thanks!
[16:32] <jono> yep it will officially be in the usual classroom/classroom-chat combo
[16:33] <nigelb> jono: erm, you want he classroom moderated for that right?
[16:33] <nigelb> *the
[16:33] <jono> nigelb, yup
[16:33] <nigelb> jono: I'll them to the learning events calender so the bot picks it up
[16:34] <nigelb> do you have like a list?
[16:34] <nigelb> (of date, time, person, etc)
[16:34] <akgraner> nigelb it's robbiew
[16:34] <akgraner> on the 11th
[16:34] <nigelb> time?
[16:34] <akgraner> at 1730 utc
[16:34]  * nigelb hugs akgraner
[16:35] <akgraner> thanks!
[16:36] <jcastro> akgraner: Can you add me to the ubuntu fridge calendar group or whatever?
[16:36] <jcastro> I can add the weeks to the calendar now
[16:37] <jcastro> akgraner<EMAIL_ADDRESS>would be best, that way I can make sure we update the fridge calendar when we update our team calendar
[16:37] <akgraner> sure one sec I'll add ya
[16:40] <akgraner> jcastro, you're added and can make changes to events
[16:40] <akgraner> let me know if there is an issue
[16:43] <jcastro> ok I added all the IRC workshops
[16:43] <jono> thanks nigelb!
[16:43] <jcastro> now we're good for the rest of the cyle
[16:43] <nigelb> jono: np
[16:43] <nigelb> jcastro: thanks /me looks
[16:44] <nigelb> dholbach: ok, any more suggestions? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[16:44] <nigelb> (we have an lp session and a django session pending confirmation)
[16:44] <dholbach> nigelb, I'm thinking about it
[16:44] <nigelb> Right we need a talk from debian
[16:44] <dholbach> I'd love to have some more about how packaging stuff works
[16:45] <dholbach> let me see if I can round up some more folks
[16:45] <nigelb> \o/
[16:47] <akgraner> is it really time for UDW already wow - where has this cycle gone
[16:48] <nigelb> I've been feeling that today
[16:48] <nigelb> when I started recruting
[16:49] <akgraner> sorry I couldn't help much this cycle - I sorta miss helping with all the Ubuntu Weeks...next cycle I should be back in the grove :-)
[16:49] <nigelb> akgraner: don't worry, I'm trying to help with the weeks as much as I can.  We can never replace you of course :)
[16:49] <nigelb> I feel guilty making dholbach and jcastro do all the work ;)
[16:53] <jcastro> vish: moderation is hard work! Why would I want to do that!
[16:54] <vish> ha! ;p
[17:05] <akgraner> nigelb, /me blushes :-)
[17:05] <nigelb> :)
[17:46] <jcastro> <-- lunching
[17:50] <cjohnston> jcastro: I'm trying to get that merge pushed
[18:03]  * Technoviking facepalms as hard as I can
[18:14] <jono> jcastro, any idea when the app place is going to work?
[18:15] <jcastro> no clue, I can find out and put it in the report
[18:16] <maco> app place?
[18:17] <jcastro> the thing with the applications in it
[18:21] <jcastro> maco: this thing basically: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TUcry28mQcI/AAAAAAAAC0I/ZtmhXlspVgE/s400/ubuntu_unity_places-applications.png
[18:21] <jcastro> jono: DBO did tell me earlier that they're gonna put a corner grippie on it
[18:21] <maco> jcastro: launcher?
[18:21] <jcastro> so you'll be able to adjust it, etc.
[18:21] <jcastro> no, the launcher is the thing on the left
[18:22] <akgraner> Did you see in the 2010 LinuxQuestions.org Member awards Ubuntu was voted desktop of the year :-)
[18:22] <akgraner> http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/2010-LinuxQuestions.org-Members-Choice-Award-Winners
[18:22] <dholbach> ok my friends - dinner time - see you tomorrow
[18:27]  * AlanBell wonders what it was he thought about earlier and was going to mention to jono
[18:28] <Pendulum> AlanBell: u4a?
[18:28] <AlanBell> wasn't that
[18:28] <AlanBell> but probably should do that too
[18:29] <jono> AlanBell, :-)
[18:29] <AlanBell> it was this  http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/ jono as an ex-pat and probable owner of an electric kettle you qualify to place a pin on the new map
[18:30] <jono> AlanBell, that's cool! and yes, I do have a kettle :-)
[18:30] <jono> or a teapot as they call it over here
[18:30] <AlanBell> though so!
[18:31] <AlanBell> and we are kicking off the ubuntu for all project
[18:31]  * popey cuddles jono
[18:31] <AlanBell> I created #ubuntu-for-all and I will call a meeting in -meeting fairly soon
[18:32]  * jono snuggles up to popey
[18:32] <Pendulum> jono: an electric kettle is not a teapot
[18:32]  * jono sings "just the two of us...we can make it if we try..."
[18:32] <Pendulum> at least even not in my area
[18:32] <maco> jono: wait arent teapot and kettle two different things? heat the water in the kettle, steep the tea in the teapot...
[18:33]  * AlanBell likes jono's new singing repertoire
[18:33] <Pendulum> maco: that's my understanding as well
[18:33] <maco> Pendulum: maybe americans who arent hoping to move the UK dont know this?
[18:34] <Pendulum> maco: I've never called any sort of kettle a teapot.
[18:34] <jono> Pendulum, that's what people call them over here
[18:34] <jono> maco, I know
[18:34] <Pendulum> people on the West Coast are weird
[18:34] <Pendulum> (at least the people you know, then)
[18:34] <jono> Pendulum, so racist :-)
[18:34] <jono> lol
[18:34] <Pici> :O
[18:35] <Pendulum> I'm not sure how saying "the West Coast" is racist
[18:35] <maco> Pendulum: i was including you in the set of UK-wistful americans :P
[18:35] <Pendulum> maco: I know. My point was that I knew it that way long before I was uk-wistful
[18:35] <jono> Pendulum, I was kidding :-)
[18:35] <maco> i think there was a point where i called them both "teapot," but i think my age only required one digit at that time
[18:36] <Pendulum> jono: tbh, I don't think calling someone racist is a joking thing
[18:36] <AlanBell> it is the people in flyover land that are the wierd ones, the people at the edges are fine
[18:36] <duanedesign> jono: hello. i left you a message the other night.  Maybe not in your area, but where I come from that's a pretty serious accusation
[18:38] <jono> Pendulum, you are reading too much into this
[18:38] <jono> I wasnt calling you racist
[18:38]  * AlanBell hugs Pendulum and jono
[18:39] <duanedesign> jono: I think that is something the Beginners Team is good at. I am interested in looking into ways the Beginners Team can encourage more mentoring.
[18:39] <jono> duanedesign, cool :-)
[18:39] <jono> duanedesign, we should hop on the phone and discuss this more at some point
[18:39] <duanedesign> sounds great
[18:39] <jono> I still feel I need to learn more about the beginners team
[18:39] <Pici> IRC isn't always the best place for those sort of 'jokes', its hard to convey tone and facial expression in a text based medium.
[18:39] <jono> maybe next week?
[18:40] <duanedesign> jono: that would be good
[18:40] <jono> Pici, I would have thought Pendulum would know me by now :-)
[18:40] <duanedesign> jono: looking forward to it
[18:40] <jono> hence me making the gag with Pendulum and not a random stranger
[18:40] <jono> duanedesign, cool :-)
[18:40] <Pendulum> jono: I know you. I was pointing out that the term is not one I would consider ever being something jokeable. Especially in an Ubuntu channel
[18:41] <jono> Pendulum, apologies
[18:41] <Pendulum> jono: accepted
[18:41] <Pici> yay. group hug.
[18:41]  * Pendulum hugs jono
[18:42]  * jono hugs Pendulum
[18:45] <jcastro> pleia2: ping a ling
[18:45] <pleia2> jcastro: pong
[18:45] <jcastro> pleia2: just FYI I added the IRC workshops to the fridge calendar
[18:45] <pleia2> jcastro: oh, I still need to add those to the classroom calendar
[18:46] <jcastro> hah that was going to be my next question, is there a classroom calendar
[18:46] <pleia2> copying them from fridge makes this easier, thanks :)
[18:46] <nigelb> jcastro: there is a learning events calender
[18:46] <nigelb> jcastro: you have access :p
[18:46]  * jcastro handwaves if we have a calendar proliferation problem
[18:46] <pleia2> yeah, it's at the bottom here: http://ubuntu-news.org/calendars/
[18:56] <dpm> ok, calling it a day
[18:56] <dpm> see you all tomorrow!
[19:20] <jcastro> jono: are you in natty?
[19:24] <jono> jcastro, yup
[19:24] <jono> but a few days old, I have frozen this install for the dev testing
[19:24] <jcastro> ah nm then
[19:24] <jcastro> if you want to update you might want to check out tbird. :D :D
[19:25] <jcastro> post testing that is
[19:27] <jono> TB?
[19:27] <jono> in the archive?
[19:27] <jcastro> yeah, appmenu landed
[19:27] <jcastro> yup
[19:27] <jono> nice!
[19:27] <jono> how does it work?
[19:27] <jcastro> make sure thunderbird-globalmenu is installed and you're money
[19:27] <jcastro> I just tried it, works fine
[19:27] <jono> sweet
[19:38] <jono> cool
[19:41] <Milossh> hello folks. I was super excited I saw ubuntu once more on FOSDEM. Your booth rocked!
[19:45] <jono> Milossh, I am not sure who run it, but thanks for the kind words!
[19:45] <Milossh> jono: I think belgium community
[19:45] <jono> :-)
[19:45] <Milossh> I bought a t-shirt too, it's awesome
[19:45] <Milossh> just kinda longish :)
[19:50] <jono> :-)
[20:08] <jcastro> ScottL: dude, nice use of antidisestablishmentarianism
[20:08] <jcastro> +1
[20:23] <jcastro> <-- caffeine refill
[20:23] <jcastro> paultag: stay out of trouble
[20:51] <JanC> Milossh: thanks ☺
[20:51] <Milossh> asci smile on xchat
[20:52] <Milossh> now, isn't that just hearthbreaking?
[20:52] <Milossh> :)
[20:52] <JanC> and I ran the booth (with the help of several other people of course)
[20:52] <Milossh> JanC: I was the one who bought the last small t-shirt
[20:53] <Milossh> mozilla guy
[20:53] <JanC> I don't remember, so probably was somebody else behind the table at that moment
[20:53] <JanC> people helping were from ubuntu-be & ubuntu-fr
[20:54] <Milossh> probably :)
[20:55] <JanC> thanks for buying a t-shirt BTW  ;)
[20:57] <Milossh> hehe
[20:57] <Milossh> thanks for making them available to us
[20:57] <Milossh> :)
[20:58] <JanC> well, I'm most happy most of the leftover t-shirts from previous year(s) are gone now
[21:00] <JanC> them all having the old logo etc.
[21:02] <JanC> Milossh: if you have ideas to make the booth even better, let me know
[21:02] <Milossh> I do actually, but that would require a bit more resources, and a bit more strict organization
[21:03] <Milossh> so I'm not sure if you're guys are actually in for that
[21:03] <Milossh> We tried something new on mozilla stand this year, and it was pretty good.
[21:03] <Milossh> (btw, I managed mozilla's booth)
[21:04] <Milossh> and my boss william, too
[21:06] <JanC> I'm open for all suggestions...  ☺
[21:06] <JanC> what resources are you talking about?
[21:06] <Milossh> I'd rather send an email
[21:06] <Milossh> if that's ok with you
[21:06] <Milossh> kinda busy right now
[21:07] <JanC> see PM for mail address
[21:14] <paultag> jcastro: not a chance, dude
[23:04] <scott-work> jcastro: lol, thanks


[01:05] <jesse__> 'ello
[01:05] <jesse__> moto
[01:05] <jesse__> ^_^
[01:05] <jesse__> anyway, I have an idea
[01:06] <jesse__> Does anyone know how to use xubuntu?
[01:07] <jesse__> Very general question, I know, but I need to know how to use this thing...
[01:07] <Unit193> No, nobody around the world has ever figured out how to use it. ;)
[01:07] <jesse__> :)
[01:08] <jesse__> I'm watching a youtube vid on how to use irssi.
[01:08] <jesse__> The guy on youtube seems legit...
[01:08] <jesse__> Probably too legit to quit.
[01:09] <Unit193> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/
[01:09] <jesse__> Sooo, #xubuntu is pretty sparse.
[01:10] <jesse__> Cool, thanks Unit193.
[01:10] <Unit193> There's a few more good ones too if you needed.
[01:11] <Unit193> http://niklas.laxstrom.name/page/eng/irssi if you plan to have tons of channels.  Also, I recommend setting up CertFP or SASL to auth to the server.
[01:12] <Unit193> http://esaurito.net/blog/posts/2008/11/irssi_notify/ for notifications.  I use a modified version myself.
[01:15] <jesse__> Thanks again unit. New to this, so it helps.
[01:16] <Unit193> Sure.  While I greatly like irssi, there's more user friendly clients out there.
[01:16] <Unit193> !tab | Also, FYI
[01:17] <jesse__> The less friendly the better.
[01:17] <jesse__> I would say I'm a masochist.
[01:18] <Unit193> w3m for internet, alpine for email, newsbeuter for rss, irssi for IRC, bitlbee or maybe finch for IM, etc, etc.
[02:02] <benyamin> hello... can anyone help me? i have a problem with nvidia that cause my start up screen change into a such kind of terminal and that make me weird looking at it. i have try fixing on grub and also adding framebuffer=y but still, not working well, only shutdown splash back to normal.. can anyone help? i really happy if its.. thanks allot!
[02:03] <ObrienDave> !crosspost | benyamin
[02:04] <benyamin> oh okay..
[02:04] <benyamin> sorry..
[02:05] <benyamin> i'll ask on ubuntu chanel only.
[03:58] <xubuntu675> i downloaded xubuntu 14.04 on my chromebook and now the screen keeps blacking out
[03:58] <xubuntu675> it wont turn on unless i shut it down and restart it again
[03:59] <ObrienDave> when does it black out?
[04:00] <xubuntu675> just randomly when im on it
[04:01] <ObrienDave> hmm, i don't know anything about chromebooks. try screensaver or power settings
[04:01] <Unit193> And if not there, nomodeset.
[04:02] <ObrienDave> !nomodeset
[04:03] <xubuntu675> i dont boot directly into xfce, first i go into the chromeos shell and type a command to start xubuntu
[04:07] <ObrienDave> 2 users in the chromebook channel??? oh my
[04:39] <xubuntu893> Hi does someone's there ?
[04:40] <ObrienDave> nope, no one home
[04:40] <xubuntu893> I've got a problem. Here's the deal.
[04:40] <xubuntu893> When I make update, everytime at the end it's gonna says : Failed to reach bla bla bla
[04:40] <xubuntu893> I'm not able to install Adobe Air to
[04:41] <ObrienDave> can you pastebin the exact message?
[04:41] <xubuntu893> Yes, hold on
[04:42] <xubuntu893> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/dists/etch/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]  W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. weezy@weezy-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo apt-get dist-update E: Invalid operation dist-update
[04:42] <xubuntu893> I'm on Sudo mode
[04:43] <ObrienDave> umm, you're on debian weezy. i can't help you here. try #debian
[04:43] <xubuntu893> #debian
[10:51] <arpad2> hello, I don't know why , but from time to time, 2-3 times a week the system doesn't accept input from the keyboard and the main menu button in the panel stops to work, including the restart or turn off button, so I can only shutdown the system from terminal and restart again, then the system behaves normally
[10:53] <ObrienDave> have you tried the REISUB key combo?
[10:54] <arpad2> ObrienDave: I don't know what isv REISUB
[10:55] <ObrienDave> it's a combination of keys that resets and reboots the system. look it up for more info.
[10:56] <arpad2> ok, even if I find it, the reoccurring unresponsive system remains
[10:57] <ObrienDave> basically hold right-alt and SysRq keys and then R-E-I-S-U-B a few seconds apart. that flushes disk cache and other things and reboots
[11:03] <arpad21> ObrienDave: yes, this combination restarted the system, though the input from the keyboard was accepted
[11:03] <arpad21> what is the command in terminal for a restart?
[11:07] <ObrienDave> not sure
[11:25] <sorinello> Hello. I have 2 questions about the XFCE interface settings. First is.. how do I configure XFCE so that if I click on the Firefox shortcut icon (manually added to panel) NOT to open another Firefox instance. This is also the same for all my other apps from the panel
[11:29] <ObrienDave> sorinello, not sure if you can do that
[11:31] <sorinello> ObrienDave: thanks. Also, is there a setting to allow moving the running apps in the panel ? Reorder them
[11:32] <ObrienDave> sorinello, you can move running apps to other workspaces, i have 20 of them LOL
[11:32] <sorinello> I have only one workspace, and I just want to reorder them on the taskbar
[11:33] <ObrienDave> right click on the taskbar, add items
[11:34] <ObrienDave> at the bottom you find workplace switcher, add that to your taskbar
[11:34] <ObrienDave> right click on the taskbar,panel, add items
[11:35] <sorinello> ObrienDave, : but I don't want more workspaces. I just want to reorder the taskbar (running apps) on my workspace
[11:36] <ObrienDave> hmm, good question, don't know, haven't tried. LOL i like the 20 workspaces
[11:38] <ObrienDave> does not seem like you can reorder taskbar tabs
[11:39] <ObrienDave> nope, they stay in alphabetical order, left to right
[11:41] <knome> right-click the panel, select panel -> panel preferences...
[11:41] <sorinello> too bad :(
[11:41] <knome> then go to the items tab, and select "window buttons"
[11:41] <knome> then click the properties icon (the cogwheel)
[11:41] <knome> in that dialog, change the sorting order to "none, allow drag-and-drop"
[11:42] <sorinello> indeed it works. thanks knome !
[11:43] <ObrienDave> ooooooooo, learned something new! thanks knome
[11:43] <knome> sorinello, no problem
[11:43] <knome> ObrienDave, see how "you can't do it" is a bad answer if the real answer is "i don't know" ?
[11:44] <sorinello> knome, : do you also have an answer for my first question ?
[11:44] <ObrienDave> i never said "can't" i said "does not seem"
[11:46] <knome> sorinello, that's something the apps must handle themself
[11:46] <sorinello> because for example in Unity, it you click on Firefox icon, you won't have a new Firefox instance started
[11:49] <knome> the xfce panel doesn't support such launchers by default. you'll either have to use a command for the app that makes sure a new window isn't opened, or write a launcher script that handles checking if the app is running and instead of running a new instance, just changes to the old one
[11:51] <koegs> there was some sort of panel-item for that
[11:52] <knome> potentially some non-default applet
[11:53] <koegs> knome: yes, but his might be it: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/dockbarx-available-as-xfce-panel-plugin.html
[11:53] <koegs> or this: http://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-taskbar-plugin/
[11:57] <cookieburra> hey guys
[12:06] <kj4> hello xubies
[12:24] <wrongplace> will a tar.xz break my xubuntu 14.04 4 bits?
[12:24] <wrongplace> will a tar.xz break my xubuntu 14.04 64 bits?
[12:25] <knome> depends what it is and what are you about to do with it.
[12:26] <wrongplace> do you know telegram?
[12:26] <knome> nope
[12:29] <wrongplace> alpha version means it is unstable, am i wrong?
[12:30] <knome> yes.
[12:49] <jkhl> shortcut key for opening the terminal?
[12:49] <jkhl> (emulated)
[12:54] <cookieburra> ctrl + alt + T
[13:03] <jkhl> wasn't working (Lubuntu install, switched to xfce) but added it now in Settings Manager
[13:58] <goneeuro> is there an easy way to upgrade libreoffice to 4.3?
[13:59] <goneeuro> without reinstalling it I mean. I am currently on <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:04] <knome> goneeuro, if it's not in the repositories, not really
[14:04] <knome> and in most cases it's not worth it anyway (unless you really really need a new feature)
[14:06] <goneeuro> knome: no I am just an update junky. I always update when I see a new version.
[14:06] <goneeuro> Thanks though.
[14:06] <goneeuro> I am not in the mood to reinstall so I guess Ill just wait for now.
[14:08] <knome> you would not only have to reinstall, you'd have to do a manual install that has very different consequences than a regular update from the repositories
[15:03] <abhra> how could "recently used" be opened in whisker menu everytime instead of "favourite"?
[15:52] <dominik_> hello guys, can u help me with customizing my xfce in ubuntu? I want to hide unmounted ntfs windows partitions from desktop only.
[15:58] <GridCube> dominik_, in the last tab of the desktop settins you can choose what drives to show
[15:59] <dominik_> Oh Gr8:) and i can hide only some icons( i mean those which are open like music player)
[16:30] <xubuntu735> Hi Hedgework, if you are here. I sent you a pm :)
[17:55] <Eldunar> hello i have problem with fusion icon. It do not want to open;/
[17:59] <GridCube> try opening the application from a terminal and see if it gives you an error
[17:59] <shay_shay> hello
[17:59] <shay_shay> i want to remove software center
[17:59] <Eldunar> dominik@dominik-pc:~$ fusion-icon * Detected Session: xubuntu * Searching for installed applications...Naruszenie ochrony pamięci (core dump
[17:59] <shay_shay> it seems safe...
[18:00] <shay_shay> http://hastebin.com/uzuquwihay.txt
[18:00] <shay_shay> i need to resolve this first. i think those autoremove packages are from when i installed libreoffice-gtk and then installed libreoffice-gnome on top
[18:00] <GridCube> shay_shay, you can do sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-software-center, but make sure before accepting the unistall that you dont delete apt-get
[18:01] <baizon> shay_shay: just remove software-center
[18:01] <GridCube> !pastebin @ Eldunar
[18:02] <GridCube> !pastebin | Eldunar
[18:02] <shay_shay> GridCube: heres what i plan on doing. i want to set manually installed anything that is set to "automatically installed but no longer needed" right now which shouldn't be, then purge software-center, then manually install anything which appears in "automatically installed no longer needed." hence the reason for my pastebin
[18:03] <xubuntu530> whois bekks bekks
[18:03] <xubuntu530> whois bekks bekks
[18:03] <xubuntu530> w
[18:03] <xubuntu530> whois bipolar bipolar
[18:04] <baizon> xubuntu530: please stop it
[18:04] <baizon> do a slash before whois
[18:04] <shay_shay> i think its possible playonlinux broke my system
[18:04] <shay_shay> and i should have never installed it from their ppa
[18:04] <xubuntu530> okay.
[18:04] <shay_shay> not sure why wine is installing and removing itself
[18:05]  * shay_shay misses debian :'(
[18:05] <baizon> shay_shay: then install it?
[18:06] <shay_shay> it wont work on this system
[18:06] <shay_shay> new xorg improvements, etc
[18:07] <shay_shay> i just need a second set of eyes http://hastebin.com/uzuquwihay.txt
[18:07] <shay_shay> i am okay with autoremoving it but maybe someone else will see it as unusual because i am unsure :P
[18:30] <shay_shay> help?
[20:04] <Migilenik> Hey guys
[20:04] <Migilenik> i wanted to ask
[20:04] <Migilenik> Xubuntu project seem to be very active, but how about xfce itself?
[20:05] <Migilenik> there are no news for years on the website, something news sometimes appears at the forum, but it seems like its not from active development
[20:05] <Migilenik> does anyone have any idea what is really going on with xfce ?
[20:07] <Unit193> Migilenik: You can see here: http://git.xfce.org that it still exists, and 4.11 (development releases) have been released recently, but yeah it's not the most active one around, but still activly develped nevertheless.
[20:18] <Migilenik> Unit193: im not a developer or hardcoder so maybe stupid question: can those commits be just sort of automatic thing?
[20:20] <Unit193> The translations yes, but not the actual commits.  https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce4-dev/2014-July/thread.html is the mailing list.
[20:25] <Migilenik> Unit193: thanks man, i subscribed to dev mailing list already
[20:25] <Migilenik> looks like there is a lot of interesting info, thanks again
[20:25] <Unit193> Sure.
[20:25] <Migilenik> take care ;)
[21:18] <svetlana> o.O?
[21:18] <svetlana> Mounted a USB, removed without unmounting, its contents remained on the computer?
[21:18] <svetlana> Weird...
[21:23] <David-A> svetlana: filesystems usually caches read blocks in unused ram. if the ram was not needed for something else, and you only look at dirs or files you have looked at before while the usb was connected, it may not need to access the actual device and discover it is gone.
[21:27] <svetlana> Okay, thanks
[23:36] <wilsonjl3> how do i stop my screen from turning off? i went into power management(think thats what its called, under hardware) and set all the options to never, but it still turns off, any ideas?
[23:39] <wilsonjl3> er, it dosnt turn off, it goes black, like a screensaver, goes back to what it was as soon as i click or press a button
[23:39] <trevjburns> You went to power management, then th Display tab?
[23:39] <wilsonjl3> yeah
[23:39] <wilsonjl3> no
[23:40] <wilsonjl3> the "on AC" tab
[23:40] <wilsonjl3> (its a laptop)
[23:40] <trevjburns> There should be an Actions tab and a Monitor tab
[23:40] <trevjburns> On the right
[23:40] <wilsonjl3> ok xubuntu 14.04?
[23:41] <trevjburns> Yes
[23:41] <wilsonjl3> i have a thing on the left with settings, on AC, on battery, and extended tabs
[23:41] <wilsonjl3> and options for each tab on the right side of the window
[23:41] <trevjburns> Yep. And on the right above all the settings you should see tabs
[23:42] <wilsonjl3> i dont
[23:44] <wilsonjl3> thats in power manager?
[23:44] <trevjburns> Yes, if you don't have it then I have no idea :(
[23:45] <trevjburns> http://i.imgur.com/6xx7DW5.png
[23:45] <trevjburns> that's what mine looks like
[23:45] <wilsonjl3> ohhhhhh
[23:45] <wilsonjl3> yeah, i see now
[23:45] <wilsonjl3> sorr
[23:46] <trevjburns> Awesome :) Hopefully that will fix it
[23:46] <wilsonjl3> sorry, i did go into both monitor and actions and chage it to never
[23:46] <trevjburns> Ahh, I'm not sure then :S
[23:46] <wilsonjl3> hah ok, no problem
[23:47] <trevjburns> Do you have Light locker?
[23:47] <wilsonjl3> yes but its disabled :p
[23:47] <wilsonjl3> did that already too hehe
[23:49] <trevjburns> idk, most likely some software overriding power management though
[23:49] <trevjburns> like a screen saver program maybe
[23:49] <wilsonjl3> mmm, i dunno
[23:49] <wilsonjl3> oh well, thanks for trying
[23:50] <wilsonjl3> whats the command for uninstalling and purging stuff?
[23:51] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get purge *package-name*
[23:51] <wilsonjl3> heya ObrienDave! and thanks :3
[23:52] <trevjburns> Did you try turning off xset ?
[23:52] <wilsonjl3> whats that?
[23:52] <ObrienDave> hey wilsonjl3, how's it going?
[23:52] <wilsonjl3> pretty good, trying to make my screen stop shutting off
[23:52] <wilsonjl3> trevjburns whats xset?
[23:53] <ObrienDave> wilsonjl3, mine does too. not always. dunno why
[23:53] <wilsonjl3> oh okay
[23:53] <wilsonjl3> so just a glitch then?
[23:53] <ObrienDave> wilsonjl3, have you checked BIOS for any settings like that?
[23:54] <wilsonjl3> no i dunno how to check BIOS :P dunno what it is
[23:54] <trevjburns> wilsonjl3, xset just manages display preferences
[23:54] <wilsonjl3> oh okay
[23:54] <ObrienDave> Basic Input Output System
[23:55] <wilsonjl3> i see
[23:56] <ObrienDave> wilsonjl3, it's the chip that retains your basic computer settings. time of day, hard drives/ memory installed. really the heart of the system info
[23:56] <ObrienDave> new machines are going twoards UEFI
[23:56] <ObrienDave> *towards
[23:57] <wilsonjl3> mine is from last year, dont have to worry about that
[23:57] <wilsonjl3> oh! how do i remove repositories?
[23:58] <ObrienDave> you can delete them through settings, software & updates
[23:58] <ObrienDave> let me find the command
[23:59] <wilsonjl3> nah, its fine, i got it :)


[09:02] <Moscherkobold> hello everyone
[09:03] <Moscherkobold> I have a question, how long does it take from the release to see a new album on the u1 music store?
[09:17] <JamesTait> Good morning, people! :-D
[18:14] <Moscherkobold> hello everyone
[18:14] <Moscherkobold> I have a question, how long does it take from the release to see a new album on the u1 music store?
[18:14] <chaselivingston> Moscherkobold: Hi, could you submit the form at http://one.ubuntu.com/support/contact  so we can get some more information from you?
[18:16] <Moscherkobold> of course
[18:16] <Moscherkobold> done


[00:10] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs cosmic-ready
[00:19] <Unit193> bluesabre: No cosmic bumping?
[00:19] <bluesabre> Unit193: just updated branches
[00:19] <Unit193> I noticed.
[00:19] <bluesabre> Getting lots of notifications?
[00:20] <Unit193> No, updating.
[00:21]  * bluesabre tidies up all of the bzr branches
[00:21] <Unit193> strategy-document.xml:235: element para: validity error : Element para is not declared in para list of possible children
[00:22] <Unit193> https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/+git
[00:25] <bluesabre> Easy way to refresh that from bzr, or should I focus on git-ing everything before moving all to cosmic branches?
[00:25] <Unit193> I mean, my script will auto-update that.
[00:26] <bluesabre> Cool
[00:26] <bluesabre> Will keep at it then and then we can git-ify everything later this week
[00:27] <Unit193> GridCube: https://docs.xubuntu.org/contributor/es/ just for you!
[00:28] <GridCube> well, mrtulias is the main translator though
[00:28] <Unit193> Kidding, mate. :)
[00:31] <Unit193> knome: ↑
[00:32] <krytarik> Well, I think it doesn't make much sense to create new Cosmic branches for everything and *then* migrate to Git anyway.
[00:36] <bluesabre> Just taking the shortest path for now... also marking existing branches mature/obsolete/merged etc
[00:43] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-artwork cosmic-ready
[01:02] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings cosmic-ready
[01:06] <bluesabre> I guess that's it?
[01:20] <Unit193> pleia2: BTW, sorry about the pass attempts, that was me. :3
[01:20] <bluesabre> I'm also thinking about moving xfpanel-switch and catfish into xfce
[01:20] <Unit193> Converting to C? ;)
[01:20] <bluesabre> the latter will need confirmation from kalikiana
[01:20] <bluesabre> no way
[01:21] <Unit193> ;D
[03:29] <flocculant> Unit193: the 'have we thought about minimal' was me asking a question :D
[03:29] <Unit193> OK, I think I may have answered?  Dunno!
[03:30] <flocculant> I just get a bit bored with us saying 'we're going to look at Core this cycle'
[03:30] <flocculant> and then at the end of the cycle saying 'next time'
[03:31] <flocculant> since before 16.04 :D
[03:31] <Unit193> Well...Not us,but yeah...
[03:31] <flocculant> and if we can do it with the bandaid - then why not
[03:31] <Unit193> Pretty sure that was a 18.04 only thing for Ubuntu even.
[03:31] <flocculant> well - we don't push the issue ;)
[03:31] <Unit193> Yeah. :/
[03:32] <Unit193> I kind of got burnt out pushing over and over, and getting nowhere.
[03:32] <Unit193> 20+ pings, merge proposal, etc.
[03:32] <Unit193> Week after week..
[03:32] <flocculant> yea I understand that :)
[03:32] <Unit193> Anyway..
[03:32] <flocculant> :)
[03:34] <flocculant> bluesabre: anyway now you're back ... thunar  bugs :)
[04:01] <Unit193> Now I need to poke that blueboy.
[04:01] <flocculant> :)
[04:07] <flocculant> ACTION: Unit193 to schedule the next meeting
[04:07] <flocculant> still :p
[04:08] <Unit193> Yeeeah, one thing on the agenda last I looked.  I should likely do that.
[04:08] <flocculant> :)
[04:46] <flocculant> knome: can we delete or rename wiki pages?
[06:53] <knome> flocculant, yes, deleting is done by saving an empty page
[06:54] <knome> flocculant, iirc renaming required an extension but we should have that... if not, then i need to look
[11:04] <Spass> ok, that strange issue with blinking Whisker Menu etc. is not Xfce specific - https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=48255#p48255
[11:05] <Spass> so I need to look beyond Xfce desktop, any hints?
[11:55] <bluesabre> Spass: try some flat/square themes that don't have rounded buttons and see if it persists
[11:58] <Spass> bluesabre, yes I tested it on many themes, it persist on every one I've used - Arc, Numix, Adwaita, Greybird, Raleight etc.
[11:59] <Spass> but now I know that this issue occurs on Ubuntu MATE too, so I'm trying to figure out what to test next
[11:59] <Spass> or where to submit this bug
[12:00] <Spass> I'll try to ask on #ubuntu-mate to confirm, maybe they'll also help with diagnosing it
[13:06] <Spass> ok, Ubuntu (GNOME) is also affected, will try to raise awareness on #ubuntu
[13:10] <Spass> wow, 1700 users and it's going fast :/ maybe I'll try a different platform like ask ubuntu
[16:38] <flocculant> knome: excellent - thanks, I deleted one :)
[18:14] <ali1234> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/1770205
[19:09] <ali1234> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1769774
[20:22] <Unit193> Oh right, < Unit193> Also, tried new ubiquity last night.  Nooo goo.
[20:22] <knome> what's up with it?
[20:23] <Unit193> Still crashes.
[20:23] <knome> right, i thought it ran but there was something else making you reluctant
[20:24] <flocculant> Unit193: you mean updated ubiquity on core?
[20:24] <Unit193> flocculant: Yeah.
[20:24] <flocculant> \o/
[20:24]  * flocculant is learning :D
[20:24] <Unit193> Tried it last night, still crashed.
[20:25] <flocculant> bit hard for me - memory isn't what it
[20:25] <flocculant> umm
[20:25] <flocculant> oh yea - wads
[20:25] <flocculant> or was
[20:25] <flocculant> Unit193: that's rather sucky then
[20:27] <flocculant> it was ok till right at the last minute iirc
[20:27] <Unit193> I'll just rever to 18.04.11 or 18.04.10 where it did work. :>
[20:27] <flocculant> I guess so
[20:27] <flocculant> Unit193: I'll commit to doing a hardware test when it's ready
[20:28] <Unit193> Well, I was joking, but I guess I could actually try that.
[20:28] <flocculant> well :)
[20:28] <flocculant> if you do - let me know :)
[23:01] <ali1234> this default monospace font thing is a real mess
[23:02] <ali1234> even xfce4-terminal doesn't follow the xfce setting
[23:02] <ali1234> i'm not sure anything does


[00:01] <lokkju> jelmer, paths
[00:02] <lokkju> we're trying to do a branch operation from a remote repo, and it's telling us one of the files exceeds that limit
[00:04] <jelmer> lokkju: yes, that might very well be possible
[00:06] <lokkju> so...  any way around it?  Window XP and newer's limit is actually 65K, but I've seen this same issue with svn - it is something about the libraries that are being linked to or something
[00:07] <lokkju> ack, 32K
[08:38] <AfC> How can you restrict bzr+ssh to a specified directory path rather than bzr+ssh+//user@hostname/path implyng / ?
[08:39] <AfC> ie, something like http://thias.marmotte.net/2009/05/creating-a-restricted-bzrssh-smart-server/ but serve side. Is that possible with some sshd_config magic, maybe?
[08:41] <fullermd> authorized_keys entries are server-side...
[08:42] <AfC> fullermd: oh,
[08:42] <AfC> duh
[08:42] <AfC> right
[08:42] <AfC> Ok, so maybe a different question
[08:43]  * fullermd gets you an extra coffee mug   8-}
[08:43] <AfC> That's fine for users who are *only* doing bzr+ssh when they connect,
[08:43] <AfC> but what about users who also have normal accounts there?
[08:43] <AfC> (ie, me as opposed to everyone else)
[08:44] <AfC> fullermd: ie, I have bzr://research.operationaldynamics.com/bzr/java-gnome/mainline/ and http://research.operationaldynamics.com/bzr/java-gnome/mainline/ for public serving, but it sure would be nice
[08:44] <AfC> fullermd: to have bzr+ssh://research.operationaldynamics.com/bzr/java-gnome/mainline/ for pushing, rather than the current
[08:44] <fullermd> Clean and/or pure-bzr solutions?  I don't know of any.  I can dream up a few somewhat hackish things.
[08:45] <fullermd> Of course, you can use authorized_keys and use different keys, which isn't without drawbacks.
[08:45] <AfC> fullermd: too-muc-info bzr+ssh://epsilon.dal.operationaldynamics.com/export/web/com/operationaldynamics/research/bzr/java-gnome/mainline/
[08:45] <fullermd> (but can work, depending)
[08:45] <AfC> I mean, obviously I could put a symlink in / as /bzr -> path, but that seems so wrong
[08:46] <AfC> I'm wondering if sshd gets any information about the hostname that was requested
[08:46] <fullermd> Marginally less wrong would be a symlink at ~/bzr and bzr+ssh://blah/~/bzr/ of course.
[08:46] <AfC> (outbound, ssh_config keys on hostname target
[08:46] <fullermd> I don't think so.
[08:46] <AfC> what about receiving side in [well, not sshd_config, but something?)
[08:47] <AfC> fullermd: actually, yeah, the home directories might be a better option, in the final analysis.
[08:47] <AfC> hm
[08:47] <AfC> right now we have a shared repo, but...
[08:48] <fullermd> Well, I didn't mean _moving_ stuff under homedirs, just adding the symlink for shorter typing on access.
[08:49] <AfC> oh
[08:49] <AfC> hm
[08:49] <AfC> {shrug}
[08:49] <AfC> yeah,
[08:49] <AfC> that's not bad
[08:50] <AfC> fullermd: good thinking
[08:50] <fullermd> One variant of the uglyhack solution would be to tweak shell rc files so that noninteractive logins get a 'bzr' that's a wrapper script setting --directory.
[08:50] <AfC> yeah, I'm just pondering along those lines
[08:50] <AfC> maybe
[08:51] <AfC> well, maybe a different sshd instance on a different port
[08:51] <AfC> or some kind of port forwarding, or...
[08:51] <AfC> hm
[08:51] <fullermd> Another is to hack up bzr one way or another (direct hackery, maybe something can be done in a plugin, etc) to fiddle with the command it invokes when you bzr+ssh.
[08:51] <fullermd> Different port wouldn't gain you anything over using a separate key with the authorized_keys fiddling.
[08:51] <AfC> yeah
[08:52] <AfC> damn
[08:52] <AfC> this seems like it should be simple
[08:52] <AfC> well
[08:53] <AfC> well. If the server is ONLY for bzr, then hacking the authorized_keys (or whatever) would do it I suppose. My problem is that this server does a few other things.
[08:53] <fullermd> Or you could pretend you're Launchpad, and just build your whole thing on top of a fictitious pseudofs  :p
[08:53] <fullermd> You can have multiple keys.  Just have a special one for bzr stuff.
[08:54] <fullermd> You can use your local .ssh/config and a separate hostname to auto-choose it for "bzr.myhost" instead of "myhost" (or whatever other trickery you may want)
[08:54] <AfC> yeah, but then I'd have to make `bzr push bzr+ssh:host` use a different one than `ssh host` does... erum oh
[08:54] <AfC> well,
[08:54] <AfC> yeah
[08:54] <AfC> duh
[08:54] <AfC> that could work
[08:54] <AfC> client side, ssh_config
[08:54] <AfC> specify a different IdentityFile
[08:54] <fullermd> Well, if you wanted to go systemwide...
[08:55] <AfC> yeah, I meant .ssh/config
[08:55] <AfC> nice
[08:55] <fullermd> One downside is that you end up not taking such advantage of connection sharing there, assuming you're doing so in the first place.
[08:55] <AfC> sort of a bother to have to have another key, but hey, yes, I'll live
[08:55] <fullermd> Of course, given the sorry state of manglement for connection sharing...
[08:55] <AfC> yeah
[08:56] <AfC> I gave up on connection sharing when I realized (duh) that a root@ and user@ wouldn't share the connection.
[08:56]  * fullermd is amazed and how that hasn't improved in $YEARS.
[08:56] <fullermd> Sure, but who ssh's as root?   :p
[08:56] <AfC> (I also noticed that even user@ and user@ has a lot of ugly race conditions if you start doing any port forwarding
[08:56] <AfC> fullermd: not me, of course.
[08:57] <AfC> fullermd: [our security team had a hard think about that, and decided that inhibiting sysadmins from being root was stupid]
[08:57] <AfC> fullermd: [in fact, more mistakes were being made on servers as a result of people sudoing when they shouldn't or, not using it when they should, etc etc etc]
[08:58] <fullermd> I've used pure sudo everywhere since sometime last millennium.  Makes management so much simpler.
[08:58] <AfC> {shrug} on desktops and other shared multi user systems, sure
[08:59] <fullermd> And saves all that trouble with connection sharing, X11 forwarding and key handling, blah blah blah.
[08:59] <AfC> right
[08:59] <AfC> so our definition of where the dividing line is is whether X is involved or not
[09:00] <AfC> anyway,
[09:00] <AfC> different key.
[09:00] <AfC> Good call.
[09:00] <AfC> fullermd: did the rest of http://thias.marmotte.net/2009/05/creating-a-restricted-bzrssh-smart-server/ look right to you? I've been trying to find an authoritative reference to that. Seems problematic to have to list all that stuff in so many people's home directories.
[09:01] <fullermd> It looked reasonable; I've never messed with it myself so I don't know if it's actually correct or works.
[09:11] <AfC> well, just tried the whole setup and it works... nice
[09:12] <AfC> yup, seems sound
[09:12]  * AfC should blog this
[09:14] <AfC> fullermd: thanks for your thoughts
[09:14] <fullermd> Yay, justified my oxygen use for the day.
[21:35] <mathrick> hey, is there an existing command to apply a patch that reverses an existing commit to the tree?
[21:36] <mathrick> ahh, merge
[22:03] <nebuPookins> I tried to do a checkout of a project from launchpad, but it seems to make bazaar crash.
[22:03] <nebuPookins> I posted the error message I get at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/611949
[22:04] <nebuPookins> Wondering if anybody had any idea of what I could try next.
[22:09] <asabil> nebuPookins, just tried it over here, same issue
[22:10] <nebuPookins> Thanks; good to know it's not a config problem with my system.
[22:12] <nebuPookins> I'm also talking to the folks on #gnome-do
[22:13] <nebuPookins> Yeah, they said they're getting the same error too now. "I guess i haven't really rebranched lp:do for a long time"
[22:16] <asabil> there is already another bug open: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/522637
[22:35] <lifeless> spiv was working on a fix
[22:35] <lifeless> I'm sorry that I don't know more than that
[22:38] <nebuPookins> Ok thanks, I'll subscribe that bug too.