[05:40] <protocolX> justin: I don't mount the CD, it automatically loads during installation.
[05:40] <protocolX> My problem is that it can't load the CD. So I have to mount it manually.
[05:40] <tomd84> sed -e "s/misc/kernel\/drivers\/net\/dissweeper
[05:41] <mhz> How can I effectively check Postfix and Courier are working with no problems. I mean, I have a mail server in my ubuntu box. Peolpe sent mails to my @domain but I do not see them. I sent emails from @gmail to my @domain, and I see them.
[05:41] <Matthew_W> tomd84:  add sudo to the beggining of that
[05:41] <truz24> how do i get a list of installed packages with apt ?
[05:41] <Seveas> truz24, dpkg -l
[05:41] <Seveas> truz24, dpkg --get-selections is another format
[05:41] <justin> mhz: /var/log/mail.*
[05:42] <truz24> thanks
[05:42] <digip1mp> ok - another question - DNS resolution on my ubuntu system is VERY slow.  windows boxes on the same network using the same dns servers are drastically faster.  anything I can do to improve?
[05:42] <mhz> justin: I see it but I see no "error" messages. Should I be looking to something in particular?
[05:42] <Seveas> digip1mp, i bet it's only in firefox that dns is slow
[05:42] <Seveas> digip1mp: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[05:42] <digip1mp> you're probably right
[05:42] <digip1mp> lemme try
[05:43] <justin> mhz: tail -F mail.log mail.info mail.err mail.warn
[05:43] <justin> mhz: then test again
[05:43] <mhz> justin: ok
[05:43] <Matthew_W> tomd84: any luck?
[05:43] <tomd84> hang on :-P
[05:44] <Trixsey> Hey! I'm having a problem with X-Chat! I've made a perl script and I want it to run on program execution! ;o) I read the manual and understood that I should put it in  ~/.xchat2
[05:44] <Seveas> Trixsey, indeed
[05:44] <Trixsey>  Thats what I did... It wont run
[05:44] <Trixsey> I have to manually load i
[05:44] <Trixsey> it
[05:45] <tomd84> its just repeating what i type now
[05:45] <digip1mp> seveas: nope - I had already done that...
[05:45] <digip1mp> still slow
[05:45] <Seveas> digip1mp, hmm, look at /etc/resolv.conf, does it list the correct dns servers there?
[05:45] <tomd84> ahh wait
[05:46] <tomd84> still pemission denied
[05:46] <mz2> why do i get this when starting up practically all python apps: 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[05:46] <justin> tomd84: where are these "instructions" that you are following?
[05:46] <tomd84> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[05:47] <Seveas> mz2, have you installed python packages yourself?
[05:47] <Seveas> tomd84, ouch, ehm, that page is outdated
[05:47] <digip1mp> seveas: yeah, and same as win boxen...
[05:47] <Seveas> the correct one got removed :S
[05:47] <mz2> Seveas, how do you mean, like non-ubuntu debs?
[05:47] <tomd84> :'(!!!
[05:47] <mz2> i might have done, yes :)
[05:47] <justin> tomd84: you also completely skipped step 2
[05:47] <Seveas> tomd84, sudo aptitude install linux-686 ndiswrapper-utils
[05:47] <Seveas> that's all you need, plus the windows drivers for your card
[05:48] <Trixsey>  Hey! I'm having a problem with X-Chat! I've made a perl script and I want it to run on program execution! ;o) I read the manual and understood that I should put it in  ~/.xchat2, so thats what I did... yet the program wont auto-load the perl script.. it works when I load it manually
[05:48] <tomd84> justin  what is step 2?
[05:48] <mhz> justin: I am tailing all of them. Should I see a "number" or a "word" that specifies "error" or "success" ?
[05:49] <Trixsey> Seveas help me :o(
[05:49] <justin> mhz: just read them. it is obvious when it is working or not
[05:50] <tomd84> Seveas, i done that and it worked
[05:50] <tomd84> now what?
[05:51] <mhz> justin: ok, but I sent an email from @gmail, some minutes ago. Still see nothing in the @domain mail  logs. So if I see nothing regarding the incoming mails for the next hour??  (because I see no "evident" errors in the outgoing)
[05:51] <Seveas> tomd84, you have downloaded the windows drivers too?
[05:51] <tomd84> yep
[05:51] <Seveas> Trixsey, can't help you, never used the perl scripting interface...
[05:52] <justin> mhz: if you see NOTHING then you have dns or firewall problems
[05:52] <mhz> justin: oooh, then it should be fixable
[05:53] <tomd84> Seveas, what do i do now? (can you pm me got to for 2 secs)
[05:53] <paul_> has anyone worked with firewire and mindv camcorders in ubuntu.  my computer locks up when i plug mine in?
[05:54] <__salimf__> Can anybody suggest the best brand of laptop for running ubuntu? Is there a list of tested laptops online anywhere?
[05:54] <Seveas> __salimf__, look at the ubuntu wiki
[05:55] <__salimf__> thanks
[05:55] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[05:55] <Hoxzer> Hey, how do I setup shell server so I can use irssi from work?
[05:55] <Kyynara> if I want to downgrade a library, how would I do it?
[05:56] <Seveas>
[05:56] <Seveas> Kyynara, aptitude install that_library=the_version_you_want
[05:56] <jwsh> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib+png2/gdk-imlib1_1.9.14-16.2ubuntu2_amd64.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[05:56] <jwsh> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[05:56] <Seveas> jwsh, look at the topic..
[05:56] <jwsh> hah
[05:56] <jwsh> thanks
[05:57] <jwsh> Seveas: why is that happening?
[05:57] <jwsh> (just out of curiosity)
[05:57] <Seveas> jwsh, ENOIDEA
[05:57] <macarthy>  changesources.list  and remove us.archive to just archive , run apt-get update
[05:57] <paul_> has anyone worked with firewire and mindv camcorders in ubuntu.  i cant get mine recognized by ubuntu
[05:59] <InitMass> which is prefered. ext3 or reiserfs?
[05:59] <Trixsey> Anyone here familiar with X-Chat?
[05:59] <InitMass> Trixsey, yes
[06:00] <chrissturm> InitMass, ext3
[06:00] <GNULinuxer> Trixsey, yeah
[06:01] <Kyynara> Seveas: it says that it is unable to locate the version of the library that I need
[06:02] <InitMass> chrissturm, is linux exteneded the same as ext3 in cfdisk?
[06:02] <Seveas> Kyynara, which library&version fo you need?
[06:02] <Seveas> and why specifically THAT version?
[06:02] <Kyynara> libpng 1.2.1
[06:03] <zakann> Oh
[06:03] <zakann> Sorry
[06:03] <Kyynara> cause that is the version I need to be able to make action quake 2 :)
[06:03] <zakann> Do you know how to change my text color?
[06:03] <zakann> Do you know how to change my text color?
[06:04] <zakann> Is there anyone who could help me?
[06:04] <chrissturm> InitMass, dunno. i think linux extended is ext2 or ext3
[06:04] <Seveas> Kyynara, 1.2.8 won't do?
[06:04] <Kyynara> nope
[06:04] <Kyynara> I did find a zip file with libpng 1.2.1
[06:04] <Kyynara> but it doesn't have a makefile or config...
[06:05] <Seveas> :|
[06:05] <Seveas> well, it's not in the repositories either
[06:05] <zakann> No?
[06:05] <Kyynara> it only has the folders and files...
[06:05] <zakann> no one?
[06:06] <Seveas> zakann, please stop being so annoying...
[06:06] <Seveas> zakann, text color of what??
[06:06] <krod> hello, how would one detect and use their wireless card?
[06:06] <Seveas> krod, depends on the card and encryption
[06:06] <zakann> sorry Seveas, i'm new user
[06:06] <krod> no encrytion
[06:07] <krod> its a linksys wireless b
[06:07] <krod> let me get the model number...
[06:07] <zakann> I want to configure the color of my text sent in IRC
[06:07] <Seveas> zakann, in this channel that is not possible, in other channels use <ctrl>k and a number
[06:07] <Seveas> or look in the settings of your client
[06:07] <krod> linksys wireless b notebook adapter model: WPC11 version: 4
[06:08] <chrissturm> zakann: using color in irc is no good
[06:08] <Seveas> krod, that's an ndiswrapper one
[06:08] <Seveas> krod, are you using an intel or amd processor?
[06:08] <liwen[CHN] > hi i am bace
[06:08] <bionic> Any way to get write support for my ntfs partitions without recompiling the kernel? I have plain ubuntu 5.04 install
[06:08] <liwen[CHN] > files list file for package `liba52-0.7.4' is missing final newline
[06:08] <zakann> Ok for Ubuntu Servers "No Color", and
[06:08] <krod> amd althon-xp mobile
[06:08] <bob2> us.archive.ubuntu.com is "fixed"
[06:08] <liwen[CHN] > what to do?thx
[06:08] <Seveas> bionic, not easy, you might be able to do it with captive ntfs
[06:08] <Seveas> bob2, since when?
[06:09] <bob2> in the sense that it points at archive.ubuntu.com
[06:09] <Seveas> ah :)
[06:09] <bob2> Seveas: since now
[06:09] <bionic> Seveas, ok, ubuntu packages for that?
[06:09] <zakann> Seveas, do you know how to save configuration for text color in IRC (in others servers)
[06:09] <Seveas> well then we'll keep it in the topic for another 24 hours
[06:09] <Seveas> dns expiry...
[06:09] <ccc> bionic: you mean writeable ntfs?
[06:09] <Seveas> bionic, no
[06:09] <liwen[CHN] > Seveas my firefox no work
[06:09] <macarthy> anyone else getting Segmentation fault using vino (gnome remote desktop-vnc)
[06:09] <clee> ogra: heya, there you are
[06:09] <clee> ogra: you around?
[06:09] <krod> Seveas: what must i do?
[06:09] <bionic> ccc, yup
[06:09] <Seveas> krod, aptitude install linux-k7 ndiswrapper-utils
[06:10] <Seveas> krod, and get the *windows* drivers for your card
[06:10] <ogra> clee, yes
[06:10] <Seveas> krod, pm me when you have that :)
[06:10] <krod> what do you mean by *windows*
[06:10] <krod> ok
[06:10] <clee> ogra: someone in here told me that you're the guy to talk to about the hwdb
[06:10] <Seveas> krod, that you need the windows drivers and not look for linux drivers (there are none)
[06:10] <zakann> krod, he means microsoft drivers
[06:11] <ogra> clee, yeps
[06:11] <bonhelsing> any ubuntu-ppc users here?
[06:11] <bionic> ccc, can you help?
[06:12] <gahan> how do i install gnome with window manager, taskbar, panel, file manager?
[06:13] <Seveas> gahan, install ubuntu-desktop...
[06:13] <gahan> Seveas: it installs A LOT of packages
[06:13] <gahan> i dont need them all
[06:13] <Seveas> gahan, well, start with gnome-desktop-environment then :)
[06:16] <gahan> Seveas: better than apt-get install gnome :) thanks~!
[06:20] <Morten^Toft> what to do if i have forgotten my password for nessusd running on my own machine ?
[06:21] <Seveas> Morten^Toft, reinstall nessus?
[06:21] <Morten^Toft> is that the only option, cant i change the password somehow ?
[06:22] <Seveas> ENOIDEA, but if it encrypts the passwords (and i guess it does) you're screwed...
[06:22] <bionic_> ccc, sorry my inet went down, did you say something?
[06:22] <Morten^Toft> hmm ok
[06:22] <klaym> Hello! I have a Ubuntu Hoary hedgehog install cd, and I'd like to know if I can format my harddrive before installing it, using the cd on boot? so if there's a tool there on the cd
[06:22] <chiefofthejojo1> yes there is
[06:23] <klaym> great. what is it?
[06:23] <Morten^Toft> Seveas, well, thanks for your help, i'm gonna reinstall then
[06:23] <chiefofthejojo1> I don't know, but it's there
[06:23] <klaym> :p
[06:23] <chiefofthejojo1> :)
[06:23] <reka> klaym: there's a partition manager that's part of the installer.
[06:23] <caonex> DEBOOTSTRAP_DIR=`pwd` ./debootstrap --arch i386 warty /mnt/ubuntu http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu warty, if i change warty to hoary, it should work, right?
[06:24] <reka> klaym: just delete the partitions, and allocate the newly freed space
[06:24] <Seveas> caonex, yes
[06:24] <klaym> ok so I just hit enter and it will lead me to a question about what to do with the partitions I now have
[06:25] <klaym> I have Warty installed now and I decided to have a fresh install
[06:25] <caonex> Seveas, great, thanks.
[06:25] <klaym> (internet update didn't work out ;)
[06:25] <klaym> I'll try that, thanks!
[06:26] <eob84> anyone know how to configure samba comand line?
[06:27] <ccc> bionic_: sorry, i didn't even see your question till now... but no, sorry, i can't. i've got a few ntfs disks myself, using them as read only, but i'll convert them to ext3/reiserfs as soon as possible. better file systems.
[06:28] <eob84> all the tutorials are either for gnome or kde
[06:28] <Madeye> guys, from terminal how can I push a use to logout ? as root
[06:29] <eob84> exit
[06:29] <bionic_> ccc, yeah but then you will have to format them :(
[06:29] <Seveas> Madeye, you mean: kill a user from the system?
[06:29] <billytwowilly> where does ubuntu keep config information for the network interfaces?
[06:29] <Madeye> Seveas, yes
[06:30] <chrissturm> billytwowilly, /etc/network/interfaces
[06:30] <billytwowilly> thank you
[06:30] <ccc> bionic_: yep. cleaning out other disks to make space as we speak. :) but i've got 600 gb ntfs, so it'll take a while
[06:33] <eob84> has anyone in here set up samba through the command line?
[06:33] <macarthy> eob84; yes
[06:34] <eob84> macarthy, I did a server install, then I installed samba-common samba and samba-client
[06:34] <eob84> macarthy, so I need anything else?
[06:34] <Madeye> Seveas,  yes I mean kill user from the system
[06:35] <Seveas> Madeye, kill the users controlling terminal
[06:36] <tomd84> Seveas, can you please look at http://home.dichello.co.uk/Screenshot.png
[06:36] <macarthy> eob84: think thats it, unless you are install the web frontend
[06:36] <Seveas> Madeye, or as root: ps -U THE_USER_NAME | cut -f 1 -d ' ' | xargs kill -9
[06:37] <Madeye> Seveas,  thanks
[06:38] <Trixsey> GNULinuxer there?
[06:38] <Trixsey> InitMass there?
[06:38] <tomd84> cab someone asked Seveas  if hes ignored me?
[06:38] <Seveas> Madeye, the user will not be happy though, you vigorously killed al his processes :)
[06:38] <eob84> macarthy, I did that changed the config file a bit... and nothing
[06:38] <GNULinuxer> Trixsey, ys
[06:38] <Razor-X> Trixsey: don't be afraid to ask others ;)
[06:38] <Trixsey> GNULinuxer, I've got a question for you :)
[06:38] <eob84> macarthy, can't see the computer on my network
[06:38] <GNULinuxer> Trixsey, tell me
[06:39] <Trixsey> I got X-Chat
[06:39] <Trixsey> I've mad a Perl plugin
[06:39] <Trixsey> I want it to load on program execution
[06:39] <tomd84> anyone?
[06:39] <Razor-X> Trixsey: probably in the man for xchat
[06:39] <Trixsey> No!
[06:39] <Trixsey> Its not there, trust me
[06:39] <Razor-X> tomd84: what's your question?
[06:39] <Trixsey> I been trying for an hour
[06:39] <InitMass> Trixsey, yes
[06:39] <Razor-X> Trixsey: hold on then ;)
[06:40] <Trixsey> Razor-X: dont just get me a page that says "put it in the .xchat2 folder and it will autorun, because that dont work.. I put it in root/.xchat2 and it didnt work.. then I tried home/trixsey/.xchat2.. still didnt work
[06:40] <tommy> does anyone know why im getting this:  http://home.dichello.co.uk/Screenshot.png
[06:40] <Trixsey> script works fine when I load it manually
[06:40] <Seveas> Trixsey, does the filename end in .pl?
[06:40] <Trixsey> yes
[06:41] <Razor-X> Trixsey: plugin, or script?
[06:41] <Trixsey> script
[06:41] <tommy> anyone?
[06:41] <Razor-X> oh ;)
[06:41] <macarthy> eob84: you mean can't see it in windows?
[06:41] <stjepan> hi
[06:41] <tommy> can anyone at all help me?:(
[06:42] <Razor-X> Trixsey: is the extension '.pl'?
[06:42] <Trixsey> Seveas Trixsey, does the filename end in .pl?
[06:42] <Trixsey> Trixsey yes
[06:42] <InitMass> Trixsey, what did you want?
[06:42] <Trixsey>  Hey! I'm having a problem with X-Chat! I've made a perl script and I want it to run on program execution! ;o) I read the manual and understood that I should put it in  ~/.xchat2, so thats what I did... yet the program wont auto-load the perl script.. it works when I load it manually
[06:43] <InitMass> does ubuntu include any partitioning tool? other than cfdisk
[06:43] <tommy> hey im trying to run the command "Echo ndiswrapper | Sudo tee -a /ect/modules, but im getting the error "tee: /ect/modules: no such file or directory ndiswrapper
[06:43] <tommy> anyone know why?
[06:43] <desdiny> its etc not ect
[06:43] <InitMass> Trixsey, have you tried posting to the x-chat channel?
[06:44] <Razor-X> Trixsey: did you try ~/.xchat
[06:44] <Trixsey> Razor-X no, havent tried..  X-Chat suggests .xchat2
[06:46] <tommy> okay
[06:46] <tommy> now what :S
[06:46] <bionic_> Anyone know how to use ident server in gftp?
[06:46] <macarthy> anyone else getting Segmentation fault using vino (gnome remote desktop-vnc)
[06:46] <krod> krod@krodtop:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i LSRTDNS.INF
[06:46] <krod> lsrtdns is already installed. Use -e to remove it
[06:46] <krod> krod@krodtop:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -e LSRTDNS.INF
[06:46] <krod> Driver LSRTDNS.INF is not installed. Use -l to list installed drivers
[06:46] <krod> krod@krodtop:~$
[06:46] <Razor-X> Trxisey: you sure you're running xchat as ~ user?
[06:46] <krod> ....
[06:47] <Trixsey> Razor-X I'm not
[06:47] <Razor-X> Trixsey: well, there you are ;)
[06:47] <scott_away> Is anyone familiar with the process used to be able to play blizzard games on linux?
[06:47] <DeathWing> Hello! Who among you guys are using wine
[06:47] <Trixsey> thats why I put my file in /home/trixsey/.xchat2
[06:47] <Razor-X> Trixsey: but, that doesen't matter, if you aren't trixsey, it won't load from your home directory
[06:48] <DeathWing> scott_away: try using wine
[06:48] <Trixsey> Razor-X so I just load it once as root to load the script?
[06:48] <DeathWing> ive used wine and i have run some windows programs
[06:48] <Trixsey> doesnt seem like.. logic :p
[06:48] <Trixsey> are you guessing now?
[06:48] <Trixsey> lol
[06:48] <scott_away> name _scott_
[06:48] <DeathWing> but most of them had errors
[06:48] <Razor-X> errr, wait, are you doing this through sudo?
[06:49] <Razor-X> like... sudo xchat +
[06:49] <Razor-X> *?
[06:49] <ninwa> DeathWing, Unless there's a native build for the game it's not generally going to run well. Try Cedegra(? I think, used to be WineX), it has some DX support.
[06:49] <Trixsey> Razor-X I'm doing this through GNOME
[06:49] <Trixsey> and I dont want to have to input the ~ pw to run X-chat
[06:49] <DeathWing> thanks ninwa ill try it now
[06:50] <ninwa> cedega*
[06:50] <ninwa> www.transgaming.com I think
[06:50] <Razor-X> Trixsey: hmmm... then there shouldn't be anything wrong.....
[06:50] <Razor-X> try #xchat
[06:50] <Trixsey> I did
[06:50] <Trixsey> they duno
[06:51] <DeathWing> ninwa, are u sure cedegra? it did not appear on my search in synaptic
[06:51] <Razor-X> well then, file a bug ;)
[06:51] <tomd84> hey
[06:51] <tomd84> has anyone here installed a wireless card before
[06:52] <ninwa> tomd84, I did just the other day.
[06:52] <tomd84> nin can you help me please?
[06:53] <ninwa> That depends, I can try but I'm by far no expert.
[06:53] <tomd84> i dont know where to start
[06:53] <ninwa> First thing would be checking for native drivers for your card, what distrobution are you on?
[06:53] <tomd84> i got that bit
[06:53] <tomd84> :)
[06:53] <ninwa> are there linux drivers for it?
[06:54] <tomd84> yep
[06:54] <ninwa> And when you downloaded it they didn't have installation notes or a readme? That'd be the first thing to check.
[06:55] <Razor-X> ninwa: what happened to the Ubuntu wiki page with the install instructions?
[06:55] <ninwa> Razor-X, watchya mean?
[06:55] <foxiness> hi , i found on synaptic two firefox package 1-firefox 2-gnome-fire-fox what shuld i do now ?
[06:55] <tomd84> erm hang on
[06:56] <foxiness> if i select to upgrade gnome-fire-fox it will install fire-fox to ?
[06:56] <linda> hola
[06:56] <digip1mp> I just downloaded a .deb file...  what's the correct way to install it?
[06:56] <digip1mp> it's not in the package manager
[06:57] <digip1mp> to my knowledge
[06:57] <ninwa> dpkg install package_name
[06:57] <ninwa> I think
[06:57] <chrissturm> sudo dpkg -i <packagefile>
[06:57] <ninwa> oh yeah, gotta be root :]
[06:57] <Matthew_W> is there a way to eject a cd drive even when it's "busy"
[06:57] <Matthew_W> I'm trying to switch disks on an install and I cant unless I force it open somehow.
[06:57] <tomd84> downloading linux drivers now
[06:57] <ninwa> good question, I'd like to know myself... I usually kill -9 any processes that are using it if I have that problem
[06:58] <ninwa> that wouldn't work for an install though huh
[06:58] <foxiness> Matthew_W, read ubuntu-guide
[06:58] <Matthew_W> ninwa: lol no
[06:58] <Matthew_W> foxiness: where do I find that?
[06:58] <ninwa> probably ubuntulinux.com :)
[06:58] <Matthew_W> Well, I'm looking for the short answer x-x lol
[06:59] <foxiness> Matthew_W, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[06:59] <ninwa> :P
[06:59] <Matthew_W> That's my only problem with linux -- great, more powerful, more customizable, wonderful -- if you have 42 hours to spare to install some basic stuff :P lol
[06:59] <tomd84> ninwa, downloading...
[06:59] <tomd84> lol
[06:59] <tomd84> allways takes ages when you waiting
[06:59] <ninwa> Matthew_W, I think a lot of people who use linux enjoy that aspect of it.
[06:59] <foxiness> Matthew_W, but than it will safe your time :)
[07:00] <Razor-X> hmmm......... I can't get \fbox to work -_-
[07:00] <foxiness> Matthew_W, like all think come fast go fast :)
[07:01] <ninwa> thats a good way of putting it
[07:01] <Razor-X> Matthew_W: not at all
[07:02] <Razor-X> I got the basic box running in.... 1 hour, from NTFS formatting, to installing, to making my bootloader not appear for my dad
[07:02] <Razor-X> and, over time, I installed what I needed
[07:02] <Kyynara> how can I check the version of a certain library?
[07:02] <foxiness> when i want to update my ubuntu i see to firefox ? what i shuld i do now ??
[07:02] <Seveas> Kyynara, dpkg -l libpng
[07:02] <Kyynara> thanks :)
[07:02] <Razor-X> sure, I had a _few_ hitches, like ogg123 not playing to the correct output device, quickly corrected
[07:02] <foxiness> Kyynara, or synaptic
[07:02] <Seveas> Kyynara, dpkg -l libpng*
[07:03] <Razor-X> foxiness: sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[07:03] <tomd84> ninwa, its got a read me
[07:03] <tomd84> but its not much use
[07:03] <Matthew_W> foxiness:  ok.. now when I put in the next cd it won't detect it, why?
[07:03] <tomd84> its got a make file tho
[07:03] <Matthew_W> foxiness:  i used sudo umount -l
[07:03] <foxiness> Razor-X, this will install two package ?!
[07:04] <ninwa> tomd, compile it and seeing if you can modprobe it, usually the INSTALL file will give you insight on how to install it :)
[07:04] <Razor-X> foxness: so?
[07:04] <Razor-X> Matthew_W: maybe you want to remount?
[07:04] <Matthew_W> heh
[07:04] <Matthew_W> Yep, that was it.
[07:05] <tomd84> i dont get it :-s
[07:05] <fishie> work is boring :sigh:
[07:05] <Kyynara> Seveas: do you know if i can manually "update" the lib
[07:05] <Razor-X> ninwa: you're suggesting 'compilation' to a totally new user?
[07:06] <Kyynara> if I find the package...
[07:06] <Matthew_W> Any way to tell if an app is actually doing something?  IE - loading a large file, or just hanging?
[07:06] <tomd84> anyone els that can help
[07:06] <Razor-X> Kyynara: apt-get upgrade
[07:06] <Kyynara> I'm going to downgrade :)
[07:06] <Seveas> Kyynara, sure, if you find a deb file, you can dpkg -i --force-downgrade
[07:06] <ninwa> its mozilla-firefox I think
[07:06] <Kyynara> I need an older version of libpng
[07:07] <ninwa> speaking of firefox
[07:07] <ninwa> I get a freaking XML error when I try adding a bookmark
[07:07] <Kyynara> but it's not in the repositories... so I was wondering if I found a package with the old bin, what would i need to do to get it to work?
[07:07] <Seveas> Kyynara, dpkg -i --force-downgrade filename.deb
[07:08] <Razor-X> tomd84: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[07:08] <Razor-X> ninwa: 's why you don't use Firefox ;)
[07:08] <yura_> hi! help me to play DVD in totem
[07:08] <Razor-X> yura_: I use VLC, meself
[07:09] <yura_> what's that?
[07:09] <Razor-X> Seveas: can \verb be centered?
[07:09] <ninwa> Razor-X, What do you prefer? I just fixed the problem at any rate...
[07:09] <Razor-X> yura_: a Media Player that can play almost any format
[07:09] <Razor-X> ninwa: Opera
[07:09] <Grumbly> where is the dpkg sources file?
[07:09] <forsaker8k6> good evening all
[07:09] <Razor-X> Opera or Konqueror
[07:09] <yura_> is it in Ubuntu?
[07:10] <Razor-X> yura_: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:10] <tomd84> im giving up
[07:10] <tomd84> thanks for your help
[07:10] <Razor-X> tomd84: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[07:10] <tomd84> i tried that
[07:10] <tomd84> its not working
[07:10] <Razor-X> what went wrong?
[07:10] <Grumbly> list of sources for dpkg  anyone?
[07:10] <Seveas> Razor-X, ehm \center{\verb{
[07:10] <Seveas> iirc
[07:11] <tomd84> i have to install something call dnswrapper or soething like that
[07:11] <tomd84> and the commands are working
[07:11] <Razor-X> Seveas: why does lshort tell me \begin{center}
[07:11] <Seveas> eh yeah
[07:11] <Grumbly> help please
[07:11] <Seveas> because you should do that :)
[07:11] <Razor-X> ok then ;)
[07:11] <forsaker8k6> got a question: how can i compile an application @ 32 bit, on an amd64 System?
[07:11] <Seveas> forsaker8k6, in a 32bit chroot
[07:11] <Razor-X> well, I used \begin{center}\verb{xxx+}\end{center}
[07:11] <Grumbly> the default apt-get/dpkg/dselect  source tree?
[07:12] <Seveas> Grumbly, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[07:12] <Razor-X> tomd84: then install ndiswrapper
[07:12] <Grumbly> Seveas: thank you!
[07:12] <tomd84> Razor-X, i tired all that
[07:12] <tomd84> and all it does it say error with driver
[07:12] <bionic_> Trying to install vmware here, it searches for the directory of the C header files matching my current kernel. Where is this on plain ubuntu 5.04 install?
[07:12] <Grumbly> Seveas: I want to add some more sources
[07:12] <Grumbly> to my file.  where is it?
[07:12] <Razor-X> tomd84: is your card supported by ndis?
[07:12] <forsaker8k6> tnx Seveas but how do i chroot in a 32bit space?
[07:13] <Seveas> forsaker8k6, ENOCLUE
[07:13] <Seveas> Grumbly, the file itself is at /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:13] <tomd84> Razor-X, it says so
[07:13] <Grumbly> ah
[07:13] <Grumbly> thanks
[07:13] <Seveas> Grumbly, and these are all official ubuntu repositories
[07:14] <Razor-X> tomd84: then try downloading new drivers online
[07:14] <Grumbly> I know.  I wanted to add the debian site as well
[07:14] <tomd84> i ave
[07:16] <forsaker8k6> sorry Seveas, but i'm quite noob... so i don't understand
[07:16] <Burgundavia> Grumbly, adding debian sources is a very bad idea
[07:18] <Razor-X> mmmm, I like LaTeX ;)
[07:19] <Trixsey> pervert :(
[07:19] <ivoks> Razor-X: everyone does
[07:19] <Razor-X> Trixsey: look at the case of the word "LaTeX"
[07:19] <Razor-X> ivoks: yeah, there's no going back to WYSIWYG
[07:20] <Trixsey> Razor-X, yeah I know
[07:20] <Trixsey> I'm just teasing j0 :)
[07:20] <Razor-X> Trixsey: heh, ok ;)
[07:21] <ninwa> I don't know about you...
[07:21] <yura__> hi! my "Totem" won't play DVD, how can I manage it?
[07:21] <ninwa> but I like Latex, too.
[07:21] <ninwa> yura_, Did you mantle the sun god right?
[07:21] <ninwa> Sometimes if it's crooked on the top it wont work.
[07:21] <cyphase> how do you limit the amount of processing power a certain process can use?
[07:22] <yura__> I don't know what it is
[07:22] <yura__> ] it says it needs some decoders
[07:22] <Razor-X> yura__: instead of going through that, get VLC
[07:22] <Razor-X> yura__: in a Terminal type "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[07:22] <yura__> I have just tried
[07:22] <phillip_> what the cmd that kills the vnc server
[07:22] <Razor-X> then start vlc with "vlc" in a Terminal
[07:23] <Razor-X> then just Open Disc a DVD, et voila, C'est le success
[07:24] <Razor-X> hmmm... should I add a footnote, or is that annoying?
[07:26] <ninwa> Anyone know how I can change what application nautilus launches for an extension without having to right click on a file of that type and use properties?
[07:26] <Trixsey> im doing major updates now ;D
[07:26] <Razor-X> ninwa: should be in Nautilus properties, i'm guessing
[07:26] <Razor-X> but, I don't use Gnome, so :\
[07:27] <ninwa> if there is such a thing ;p
[07:27] <ninwa> alright then
[07:28] <djp> can somebody tell me how i can list all restrcited software?
[07:29] <Kyynara> I'm trying to rename a folder but it says "Bareword "zlib" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1."
[07:29] <yura> I tried to instal vlc, but
[07:29] <yura> yura@ubuntu1:~$ sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:29] <yura> Password:
[07:29] <yura>   ...
[07:29] <yura>   ...
[07:29] <yura> E:     vlc
[07:29] <yura> yura@ubuntu1:~$
[07:29] <Razor-X> yura: what's the problem?
[07:29] <djp> is there a way to filter in synaptic in order to show only restricted software that is installed?
[07:29] <Razor-X> ummm..... I can't really read that -_-
[07:29] <yura> of course
[07:29] <yura> that's russian
[07:29] <Razor-X> oh, I think I know your problem though
[07:29] <Razor-X> add the extra repositories
[07:30] <yura> it says it can't find package vlc
[07:30] <luminerd> I am told my linuxwacom.sf.net to compile mousedev as a module...in my kernel, it is built in.  when I attempted to recompile the kernel with mousedev built as a module, module is not an option; only built in.  When I menuconfig and press M, it reverts to the asterisk.
[07:31] <Razor-X> yura: http://ru.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:31] <chaitat> hello
[07:31] <Juhaz> luminerd, are you sure you actually need to do that? I got wacom tablet working with nothing but putting the inputdevice sections in xorg.conf
[07:32] <chaitat> if i use 'hybernate' regulary, there will be any problem?
[07:32] <Juhaz> luminerd, though granted, I don't know if pressure sensitivity and all work, since it was for tablet pc and not drawing tablet
[07:32] <luminerd> Juhaz, yea, I'm on slackware though :/
[07:32] <luminerd> no one there or anywhere else could help
[07:32] <Juhaz> oh.
[07:33] <Razor-X> luminerd: this is #ubuntu ;) go to #slackware
[07:33] <djp> does anybody know why the linux-386, linux-k7 etc kernels are restricted?
[07:33] <Razor-X> djp: i'm guessing because they're basic kernels?
[07:34] <HappyFool> djp: the linux-restricted-modules package is something else
[07:34] <ardob11> I'm trying to use Rhythbox, but it say can't find mp3 codec, how do I install it?
[07:34] <luminerd> Razor-X, they couldn't help me, was hoping someone here could
[07:34] <HappyFool> djp: it's for modules with restrictive licenses
[07:34] <Razor-X> luminerd: oh, ah, sorry ;)
[07:34] <Juhaz> luminerd, dunno about that then, never have had to compile it.
[07:34] <Kyynara> I'm trying to rename a folder but it says "Bareword "zlib" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1." Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[07:35] <luminerd> heh, ok well thanks anyway
[07:35] <Razor-X> hmmm, what's the difference between linux-686 and linux-686-smp
[07:35] <HappyFool> Razor-X: smp = symmetric multiprocessor (or multiprocessing ?)
[07:35] <HappyFool> ie., more than one CPU
[07:35] <Razor-X> ok, that's why I was remembering the word
[07:36] <`psycho> guys a question
[07:36] <Razor-X> i'll finish up some LaTeX modifications, and then install
[07:36] <`psycho> wat happens if i don't define a target in mak-kpkg?
[07:36] <`psycho> *make-kpkg
[07:36] <Razor-X> does apt-get(aptitude) change the GRUB entry to boot a new kernel?
[07:37] <`psycho> anyone knows?
[07:37] <ardob11> How do I install MP3 codec and make Rhythmbox use it?
[07:37] <`psycho> :(
[07:37] <HappyFool> !uboto restricted
[07:37] <ubotu> I don't know, HappyFool
[07:37] <HappyFool> hrm
[07:38] <HappyFool> ardob11: you can find out how at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:38] <ardob11> thnx
[07:38] <`psycho> hey a little help please?
[07:38] <Razor-X> does it?
[07:39] <HappyFool> `psycho: i don't have a clue. try reading the docs carefully?
[07:39] <`psycho> :S
[07:40] <Grumbly> hey, I'm looking for a backend app for a web site that can resize/reformat images from whatever to jpg.  anyone know of anything like that?
[07:41] <HappyFool> Grumbly: there's a package called imagemagick which can do that
[07:41] <djp> HappyFool: are any linux-restricted-modules installed by default with a hoary install?
[07:42] <HappyFool> djp: linux-restricted-modules is a single package. afaik it only contains the nvidia drivers at the moment, though i could be wrong
[07:42] <djp> Grumbly: gallery with imagemagick
[07:42] <HappyFool> djp: i don't think it's installed by default
[07:42] <Grumbly> IMAGEMAGICK!  thanks!
[07:42] <Grumbly> djp...
[07:42] <Grumbly> why I know that nick
[07:42] <Grumbly> *do*
[07:42] <spynet> join/ #ubuntu-es
[07:42] <Grumbly> ?
[07:42] <dpo1> Mayday mayday! my filesystem keeps filling up /home has 10.2 gig preventing me from running anything or rebooting. It comes from some promiscuous downloading I did yesterday from the fonts section of synaptic, but I don't know what to do now.
[07:42] <Razor-X> how does \label and \ref work?
[07:43] <HappyFool> djp: oh, sorry, it's much more that just nvidia
[07:43] <HappyFool> djp: also wireless networking, lucent modem, isdn, .. blah blah
[07:43] <Razor-X> dpo1: run in recovery mode
[07:43] <arj> hello
[07:44] <spynet> joined #ubuntu-es
[07:44] <arj> just got some ubuntu cd's today and I wanted to try out the latest release using the livecd. It appears I have trouble starting it. It can't read some files and when I do a integrity check of the cd I get a wrong md5 sum for the package anna
[07:44] <arj> known problem?
[07:44] <arj> one of my friends had the same problem and this is with the official cd's?
[07:45] <HappyFool> arj: i can check my install cd... stand by
[07:45] <arj> HappyFool: it was the livecd
[07:45] <HappyFool> arj: hrm, ok
[07:45] <dpo1> Razor-X when I rebooted last time, even that didn't work. I only managed to get back in through terminal, erasing /tmp and wiping out everything in /var/cache/apt/archives. Then this morning, when I tried to see if synaptics was working, it asked me to dkpg --configure -a to restart the process which I did causing the problem again. Unfortunately this time there's nothing in ..../apt/archives to delete
[07:45] <arj> but my friend had problems with the livecd
[07:45] <arj> ehm
[07:45] <arj> install cd
[07:45] <djp> HappyFool: is there anywhere that lists what is restricted?
[07:46] <HappyFool> arj: i downloaded the hoary install CD, i've had no problems
[07:46] <Razor-X> dpo1: get a Linux boot floppy, or CD and delete it from there
[07:47] <orhs> how do i install other splash screens?
[07:47] <HappyFool> arj: an md5 error should indicate an error with the file, i.e., bad data
[07:47] <HappyFool> djp: just a sec
[07:47] <dpo1> Razor-X delete what? I'm in Gnome right now (can't turn off any applications, though, cause they don't start up again). If I could find files to rm, I could: I just don't know where the filesystem is filling up. Any ideas on how to find where the problem is?
[07:47] <GNULinuxer> orhs, gconf-editor
[07:48] <HappyFool> djp: is this what you want? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[07:48] <dpo1> Razor-X: I have both the live and installation CDs, so I can reboot if nec. but it was such a screwup last time, I'm reluctant to do so without trying to fix it first
[07:48] <orhs> GNULinuxer, tnx :)
[07:48] <ardob11> "Note : you must choose the eSound output plugin in the options of XMMS (XMMS freezes if you use ALSA)." how do I get to options it it freezes right from the start :)? command line?
[07:48] <GNULinuxer> orhs, you need to edit an key to point to the splash image you want
[07:48] <HappyFool> arj: are these CD's received in the mail from canonical?
[07:49] <arj> it fails on loading casper-udeb
[07:49] <Razor-X> dpo1: i would be easiest to do it from the Live CD
[07:49] <Razor-X> ok, brb, time to try out my new kernel ;)
[07:49] <arj> HappyFool: yes
[07:49] <HappyFool> arj: this is on the install cd ? one sec...
[07:49] <HappyFool> arj: erk
[07:49] <AlwaysModest> anyone know how i can copy the kernel over so i can use it for bootx?
[07:49] <GNULinuxer> orhs, apps > gnome-session > options
[07:49] <dpo1> Razor-X, O.K., can you walk me through what you'd do to id and solve the problem using the live CD?
[07:49] <arj> right now I'm just trying the livecd and I get that error
[07:51] <HappyFool> arj: what os are you running now (for irc) ?
[07:51] <arj> linux
[07:51] <arj> Gentoo
[07:51] <solaris> solaris
[07:51] <we2by> * *** Forward DNS reply received.
[07:51] <we2by> * *** Ident request failed.
[07:51] <we2by> how can I solve this problem?
[07:52] <HappyFool> arj: i don't know what the problem is. My md5sum for 'casper-udeb_0.62_all.udeb' is 'bb48d68688c78bb110fe70ffbaeee9fc'
[07:52] <ravuya> I installed the nvidia-glx driver and enabled it, but now I need to recompile with an --enable-tls=classic option to make it work with WineX again. What would be the best way to do this? Should I just download the source for the package and do it that way?
[07:52] <HappyFool> arj: maybe you can compare that to yours ?
[07:52] <arj> good idea
[07:52] <arj> I'm trying the install cd right now
[07:52] <Razor-X> nice, everything's quite a bit faster ;)
[07:52] <HappyFool> arj: you can test in your gentoo system with 'md5sum -c md5sum.txt' in the top-level directory of the cd
[07:52] <Razor-X> ravuya: i'm assuming you got WineX from CVS?
[07:53] <ravuya> Yeah, I used the WineCVS script
[07:53] <Razor-X> ravuya: can you guess how old that is?
[07:54] <ravuya> Razor-X, I don't know. I asked in cedega, the latest CVS there gives the same error
[07:54] <djp> HappyFool: thanks
[07:54] <uman> hi there all
[07:54] <Razor-X> ravyua: i'm pretty sure it's really really _really_ old
[07:54] <kman___> d
[07:54] <arj> HappyFool: seems to work ok on this computer
[07:54] <Razor-X> so, you may not be able to play the games you want to
[07:54] <arj> maybe cd drive related
[07:54] <kman___> ups, sorry, about that
[07:54] <HappyFool> arj: ie., md5sum ok ?
[07:55] <arj> yes
[07:55] <ravuya> Razor-X, okay. Well, I'll probably go pick up the latest binary release then. Thanks
[07:55] <arj> installation cd seems ok
[07:55] <arj> hmm
[07:55] <ravuya> anyway, ubuntu fucking rocks
[07:55] <ravuya> i moved from fedora to it last night
[07:55] <Razor-X> ravuya: wait, is Cedega free?
[07:55] <HappyFool> arj: i guess best suspect is cd-drive, but i don't really know
[07:55] <ravuya> Razor-X, the CVS is
[07:55] <Shachaf> Has anyboody had any problems getting their eepro100 card working under Ubuntu?
[07:55] <delire> ravuya: sure does ;)
[07:56] <ravuya> Fedora used a newer version of ext3 though, the fsck in the base install died when trying to fsck my hard drive because I wanted to keep my /home directory
[07:56] <ravuya> I should probably find the bugzilla and report that actually
[07:56] <Razor-X> ravuya: i'm pretty sure the CVS is pretty old, but, I may be wrong
[07:56] <Razor-X> although, ask in #cedega, they could've updated it
[07:56] <ravuya> I did ask, that's where I got the tip on how to fix it ;)
[07:57] <delire> Shachaf: what's up?
[07:57] <Razor-X> ok then ;)
[07:57] <orhs> GNULinuxer, this is kinda hard... :S
[07:57] <Razor-X> wow, the 686 kernel is blazing
[07:57] <HappyFool> i thought the point of CVS was to be the opposite of old ;)
[07:57] <ravuya> I just need to know how to recompile the nvidia-glx module without having to download their stupid script
[07:57] <random> #ET
[07:57] <quickbrownfox> folks. does anyone know of a free sha1 hash checker for windows?
[07:57] <delire> Shachaf: you have the module loaded?
[07:58] <Razor-X> quickbrownfox: i'ld reccomend a plugin for Total Commander, but not many people use Total Commander so.... ;)
[07:58] <Razor-X> HappyFool: but the CVS is free, that's why
[07:58] <random> does anyone know how to fix this error "------- sound initialization -------
[07:58] <random> GETOSPACE: Invalid argument
[07:58] <random> Um, can't do GETOSPACE?
[07:58] <random> "
[07:58] <Shachaf> delire: Yes.
[07:58] <Shachaf> delire: I tried it both with eepro100 and e100.
[07:58] <Razor-X> random: where'ld you get this error?
[07:58] <Razor-X> from what?
[07:58] <orhs> how do i replace the standart splash image with one of my own choice?
[07:58] <orhs> standard
[07:58] <random> Razor-X: from Enemy Territory
[07:58] <HappyFool> quickbrownfox: does gpg do sha1 ?
[07:59] <delire> Shachaf: 'lsmod | grep e100' confirms it's loaded
[07:59] <Shachaf> delire: Yes, confirmed.
[07:59] <quickbrownfox> Razor-X, I have total commander. thanks
[07:59] <delire> Shachaf: what kind of network are you on?
[07:59] <Shachaf> delire: I tried both DHCP and static IPs, neither worked.
[07:59] <arj> HappyFool: running md5sum on the file from a shell also fails
[07:59] <arj> :/
[07:59] <Shachaf> delire: What do you mean, what kind of network?
[08:00] <quickbrownfox> HappyFool, dno what GPG is
[08:00] <delire> Shachaf: is it eth0 or eth1
[08:00] <Shachaf> delire: This is eth0.
[08:00] <HappyFool> quickbrownfox: http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/download/index.html
[08:00] <HappyFool> arj: doh
[08:00] <arj> dmesg tells me: media error (bad sector)
[08:00] <HappyFool> arj: this is on your gentoo system ?
[08:00] <delire> Shachaf: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[08:00] <arj> no from a shell on the livecd
[08:01] <delire> Shachaf: when requesting an IP via DHCP request
[08:01] <Shachaf> delire: I tried that enough times.
[08:01] <arj> tried two different medias
[08:01] <arj> same problem
[08:01] <arj> :/
[08:01] <HappyFool> you mean two different drives, or two different cd's ?
[08:01] <Shachaf> delire: I can't get this working with static IPs either.
[08:01] <delire> Shachaf: well i'll need some output to assist. ifconfig confirms an IP? that card is widely used. i use it myself.
[08:01] <arj> two different cd's
[08:01] <random> does anyone know how do fix this error, "------- sound initialization -------
[08:01] <random> GETOSPACE: Invalid argument
[08:01] <random> Um, can't do GETOSPACE?
[08:01] <random> " when i try and run enemy territory
[08:01] <HappyFool> arj: i'm guessing it's your drive
[08:01] <delire> Shachaf: can you ping the router/gateway?
[08:02] <Shachaf> delire: No.
[08:02] <HappyFool> arj: can you maybe swap out your gentoo cd-drive just for the install ?
[08:02] <Shachaf> delire: This works in other distributions, by the way.
[08:02] <HappyFool> arj: ag, your gentoo machine's drive, you know what i mean
[08:02] <arj> HappyFool: laptop :)
[08:02] <HappyFool> arj: heh. i guess that's a no ;)
[08:03] <dabear> any idea on how to get gaim to remember which channels I've joined?
[08:03] <arj> ohh well
[08:03] <delire> Shachaf: in /etc/network/interfaces make sure you have a line like this (for DHCP) 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[08:03] <marin> It's very important to have a swap partition?
[08:03] <dabear> no, depends on your ram
[08:03] <mag> marin: depend how much RAM you have
[08:03] <Shachaf> delire: Wouldn't it be simpler to try this with static IPs for now?
[08:03] <HappyFool> arj: maybe you could hack some sort of netinstall: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetbootInstallHowto
[08:03] <delire> Shachaf: then ifdown eth0; ifup eth0. also check 'route -n' to ensure you have the correct gw listed.
[08:04] <HappyFool> arj: i have never done this myself, nor even looked at it
[08:04] <delire> Shachaf: sure if you like. then replace 'dhcp' with static
[08:04] <marin> ok, then my pc will use more RAM
[08:04] <arj> HappyFool: just wanted to try the livecd so that I can tell people that I at least tried it before giving out the cd's :-)
[08:04] <marin> no?
[08:04] <arj> thanks for the help though
[08:05] <Razor-X> HappyFool: you willing to read something?
[08:05] <dabear> any idea on how to get gaim to remember which channels I've joined?
[08:05] <delire> Shachaf: what IP is your gateway?
[08:05] <Shachaf> delire: <IP_ADDRESS>.
[08:05] <djp> is the nvidia-kernel-common file important? i gather it is only for use if you wish to install the nvidia-glx driver. correct?
[08:06] <HappyFool> Razor-X: sure, if it's not too long
[08:06] <delire> Shachaf: try this 'route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>' and then try a ping
[08:06] <HappyFool> Razor-X: i'm also in the middle of making supper, so patience may be required
[08:06] <HappyFool> ;)
[08:06] <Mez> hola razor-xz
[08:06] <justin> delire: you don't need a gateway to ping an address that is on the same subnet as you
[08:06] <delire> justin: i know
[08:06] <delire> justin: that's not his problem
[08:07] <djp> also, if i install the linux-k7 kernel, can i then remove the 386 kernel or is this done automatically?
[08:07] <justin> delire: then why did you have him add the gateway? you didn't even have him check to see if you could ping the gateway itself first
[08:07] <HappyFool> arj: fair enough. i guess you have at least checked the md5sum
[08:07] <Mez> you can removed, but it's wise to keep it as a "just in case" dj
[08:07] <delire> justin: read your scrollback. i asked him this
[08:07] <Mez> djp*
[08:08] <marin> and.. If I want to add this partition what should I do?
[08:08] <anatole> does someone knows why xchat-xmms announce scripts does not work?
[08:08] <djp> Mez: which one Mez, the nvidia one or the 386 one ;)
[08:08] <anatole> the errror is: [20:06]  Error loading '/home/attila/.xchat2/xmms-share.pl':
[08:08] <anatole> [20:06]  Can't locate Xmms/Remote.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 3) line 66.
[08:08] <anatole> [20:06]  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 3) line 66.
[08:08] <justin> delire: well then if he can't ping the gateway, adding it as the default route isn't going to help with anything
[08:08] <delire> justin: thanks
[08:08] <justin> anatole: apt-cache search xmms perl
[08:09] <djp> Mez: or both?
[08:09] <Mez> djp: k7 != nvidia, it's the AMD kernel.... for athlon xps..... keep the i386 kernel for a just in case
[08:09] <albacker> guys ive done 2 months ago the request for ubuntu free cds. they havent arrived yet. does anyone know anything why they havent arrived ?
[08:09] <Burgundavia> albacker, they will come when they do
[08:09] <anatole> justin: libxmms-perl <- right?
[08:09] <Burgundavia> they are shipping a lot of cds
[08:09] <justin> anatole: yep
[08:09] <albacker> Burgundavia, but 2 months have passed.
[08:09] <albacker> should i wait more :S
[08:09] <Razor-X> Mez: hey
[08:09] <Burgundavia> albacker, shipit is not amazon
[08:09] <anatole> thanks
[08:09] <albacker> should i repeat the request.
[08:10] <albacker> Burgundavia, ok.
[08:10] <Mez> hey (again Razor-X
[08:10] <delire> Shachaf: now if you 'ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>' (assuming their is no other machine with that IP) can you ping an external URL?
[08:10] <anatole> brb then :)
[08:10] <djp> Mez: is it worth using the k7 kernel if i have an athlon? or will it make no real difference?
[08:10] <Razor-X> I have a rough draft of aguide on the Command Line introduction done
[08:10] <gallonegro> is it hard to setup printer server type thing,, where  xplaptop can print on my machine which as the printer connected too
[08:10] <Razor-X> well, not a complete rough
[08:10] <Razor-X> just one section ;)
[08:10] <anatole> oh it works
[08:10] <anatole> :)
[08:10] <Shachaf> delire: What output should route -n give?
[08:11] <justin> delire: why are you having him type random commands that are not going to help with anything?
[08:11] <delire> Shachaf: sorry, 'ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>'
[08:11] <Mez> Razor-X, talk about that in #ubuntu-newbie so I can actually see whats going on and your talking doesnt get lost in the rest of the chatter
[08:11] <Razor-X> Mez: ok ;)
[08:11] <delire> Shachaf: it should give no output, but if you 'route -n' you should see this set as your default gateway
[08:12] <delire> Shachaf: if you 'ifconfig' can you see eth0 set with the IP you gave it?
[08:12] <Shachaf> delire: Yes.
[08:12] <delire> Shachaf: and you still cannot ping an external URL?
[08:12] <Shachaf> delire: That's right.
[08:12] <Shachaf> delire: Not even <IP_ADDRESS>.
[08:13] <Shachaf> delire: I wish I could SSH downstairs for this... :-)
[08:13] <delire> Shachaf: are you sure that eth0 is your eepro100? any other network devices on that box?
[08:13] <Shachaf> delire: No others.
[08:14] <justin> Shachaf: what does mii-tool and mii-diag output?
[08:14] <Shachaf> delire: I'm using e100, by the way.
[08:15] <delire> Shachaf: are you sure the network cable is properly plugged in? have you tested this with another machine or same machine different OS?
[08:16] <Shachaf> delire: Yes, this works on other distributions.
[08:16] <Shachaf> delire: And on Windows.
[08:17] <delire> Shachaf: try 'modprobe -r e100 && modprobe e100' and then setting eth0 with an IP again and pinging.
[08:17] <delire> Shachaf: though i suppose you've already done this a few times ;)
[08:17] <Shachaf> delire: I have.
[08:17] <justin> Shachaf: what does mii-tool and mii-diag output?
[08:18] <ThElInK_mt> Hey guys.. small quesion: I'm currently using Gentoo on AMD64. I'm preparing to switch to Ubuntu Hoary. On my amd64 gentoo system, I can run 32bit games like doom3 (without any chroot or other nonsense). Will I be able to do so on hoary amd64?
[08:18] <delire> Shachaf: well it's a bit beyond me i'm afraid then! <thinks>
[08:19] <Shachaf> delire: Thank you, anyway.
[08:19] <synd> whats the cmd to add hdparm to the boot sequence
[08:20] <Trixsey> Hey, anyone here?
[08:20] <Trixsey> InitMass
[08:20] <Trixsey> there? :o
[08:20] <synd> Trixsey: yeah, we're here
[08:20] <Trixsey> oh ok :)
[08:20] <Trixsey> I updated X-Chat
[08:20] <Trixsey> I still cant load perl plugins
[08:20] <Trixsey> maybe something is wrong with my perl plugin?
[08:21] <Trixsey> it consists of a bunch of IRC::command "/server ...."; and IRC::command "/join #..."
[08:21] <ThElInK_mt> anybody know if I can run doom3 and other 32bit stuff on an amd64 hoary?
[08:21] <Trixsey> synd,you know?
[08:21] <InitMass> Trixsey, yes, what is it this time?
[08:21] <lsuactiafner> ThElInK_mt : yeh you cam
[08:22] <Trixsey> InitMass, still aint working for me
[08:22] <lsuactiafner> ThElInK_mt : i run doom @ max graphics ect no problems
[08:22] <synd> Trixsey: sure dont
[08:22] <Shachaf> delire: Tell me if you get an idea.
[08:22] <delire> Shachaf: hmm well i have the same card. all i can assume is that the link is down or that a competing eepro100 module is getting in the way.
[08:22] <lsuactiafner> ThElInK_mt : you can run any 32bit binary..
[08:22] <InitMass> Trixsey, i never tried to make scripts for x-chat
[08:22] <Shachaf> delire: Neither one seems to be true.
[08:22] <ThElInK_mt> lsuactiafner: Thanks.  But I have other games like HL2 and GTA
[08:23] <Shachaf> delire: No.
[08:23] <lsuactiafner> ThElInK_mt : try and come tell us lol
[08:23] <Trixsey> thats all
[08:23] <Shachaf> delire: You know, a while ago I tried to install Ubuntu (Warty) on this machine, which has a 3Com card, and the network also didn't work.
[08:23] <Trixsey> im not gonna manually type like 30 commands each time I load X-Chat
[08:23] <Trixsey> seems like a waste of time
[08:23] <Trixsey> when I can make a script that does that shit for me
[08:24] <ThElInK_mt> lsuactiafner, lol - I would if it was any other program.. but I paid for cedega - and I'm a poor, poor student lol
[08:24] <jwsh> man, what's up with the servers today?
[08:24] <jwsh> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe libxalan2-java 2.6.0-1ubuntu1
[08:24] <lsuactiafner> Shachaf : my 3com works nicely, just the kernel prolly loaded the wrong module.
[08:24] <jwsh>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[08:24] <jwsh> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libx/libxalan2-java/libxalan2-java_2.6.0-1ubuntu1_all.deb  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[08:24] <justin> Trixsey: uh, try LOOKING in the xchat preferences, it can connect to servers and join channels for you without any stupid plugins
[08:24] <delire> Shachaf: odd. another common card. i don't mean to undermine what you've told me, but what does 'lspci | grep Network' say?
[08:24] <lsuactiafner> ThElInK_mt : cedega is free?
[08:24] <Trixsey> where?
[08:24] <ThElInK_mt> lsuactiafner, nope...
[08:24] <lsuactiafner> lspci | grep -i eth
[08:24] <Shachaf> delire: On which machine?
[08:24] <ThElInK_mt> lsuactiafner, I bought it from Transgaming
[08:24] <mag> jwsh: apt-get update
[08:24] <delire> Shachaf: the 'eepro100' machine
[08:24] <jwsh> I did
[08:24] <lsuactiafner> ThElInK_mt : heh ok then i suppose i got a hacked copy hmmmmm
[08:25] <lsuactiafner> interesting
[08:25] <Trixsey> justin: I need to join like 20 channels.. and then I need a ton of ident commands and stuff
[08:25] <justin> Trixsey: http://www.xchat.org/files/screenshots/xchat_screen_2.png
[08:25] <delire> Trixsey: what's wrong with Xchat or BitchX?
[08:25] <lsuactiafner> BitchX > all
[08:25] <ThElInK_mt> lsuactiafner, I would try it, but if it doesn't work I'd have to switch back to gentoo... and re-installing gentoo takes like forever. So I'd rather make sure it works before hand hehe...
[08:25] <jwsh> mag: I've tried http://archive.... http://us.archive... and http://gr.archive... that directory /libxalan2-java isn't there
[08:25] <Trixsey> justin, ok? I see a server list?
[08:26] <justin> Trixsey: edit?
[08:26] <ThElInK_mt> lsuactiafner, I'll probably go ahead and try anyway
[08:26] <Thorrn4> hello! I have a BIG problem...I cannot log in my main account; i get a major error every time I try to log in (this session has lasted for less that 10 sec...) WHAT DO I DO?
[08:26] <Trixsey> I want to be able to perform 40 automated tasks on execution of the program, where can I do that in your little server list?
[08:26] <lsuactiafner> ThElInK_mt : if it works in gentoo 64bit it should work in ubuntu
[08:26] <Trixsey> jeez
[08:26] <Trixsey> lol
[08:26] <stjepan> hi
[08:26] <ThElInK_mt> lsuactiafner, true :)
[08:26] <moparfan90> hello
[08:26] <Jet2k5> guys, for some reason my w32codecs keep on going away
[08:26] <Jet2k5> they disappear
[08:27] <Jet2k5> wtf is causing this?
[08:27] <ThElInK_mt> lsuactiafner, I'll give it a try and then let the others know :)
[08:27] <Thorrn4> hello! I have a BIG problem...I cannot log in my main account; i get a major error every time I try to log in (this session has lasted for less that 10 sec...) WHAT DO I DO? Also, every time I try to go into the root terminal and this user cannot use it!
[08:27] <Trixsey> justin where do I run ident and invite commands for instance?
[08:27] <Shachaf> delire: "lspci | grep -i network" gives nothing.
[08:27] <Shachaf> delire: But, "lspci | grep -i eth" gives "Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]  (rev 02)"
[08:27] <stjepan> do you have slow ADSL?
[08:27] <justin> Trixsey: that's a different story. irssi makes that easy, dunno about xchat
[08:27] <stjepan> do you have that problem?
[08:28] <ThElInK_mt> Thanks for the help guys :) cya...
[08:28] <justin> Thorrn4: change your session type?
[08:28] <Trixsey> justin, it'd be easy if they wrote a proper API, not just a few commands
[08:28] <moparfan90> i am thinking of switching to ubuntu. whats some of the programs and cool stuff that comes with it?????????
[08:28] <delire> Shachaf: odd grepping on Network works fine here. anyway that is the same card i use.
[08:28] <Trixsey> moparfan90: you born 1990? better stay with windows
[08:29] <moparfan90> why
[08:29] <HappyFool> moparfan90: openoffice (office suite), evolution (mail + calendar)
[08:29] <Trixsey> moparfan90: swaping to Ubuntu.. from?
[08:29] <HappyFool> moparfan90: what sort of software are you interested in ?
[08:29] <moparfan90> yea. im using SUSE linux
[08:29] <lsuactiafner> lspci | grep -i eth
[08:30] <Trixsey> moparfan90: IMHO it isnt the extra features that determines wether an OS is good or not :p
[08:30] <HappyFool> moparfan90: try out the live cd, see if it tickles your fancy
[08:30] <Matthew_W> Can you guys possibly help me set up direct3d or openGL -- I'm having a problem with it, my games won't run, they crash, and can't create direct3d objects, and the sounds don't work, etc. etc.
[08:30] <Matthew_W> Help.
[08:30] <Trixsey> moparfan90: if you made up your mind about getting ubuntu then wait for a stable release of the breezy badger??
[08:31] <HappyFool> Trixsey: eh, why wait?
[08:31] <moparfan90> whens that going to be
[08:31] <delire> Matthew_W: of course they can't create DX objects, same on a Mac
[08:31] <Matthew_W> delire: explain.
[08:31] <HappyFool> breezy will be released in october, but the current release (5.04, the hoary hedgehog) is perfectly usable
[08:31] <Matthew_W> delire:  it works on Linux, says so on transgaming.com -- this game, that is.
[08:31] <Thorrn4> justin, what do u mean? I tried opening all the sessions (KDE, GNOME, XFce) and none of them will open
[08:31] <delire> Matthew_W: are you trying to run DirectX games on your Linux machine?
[08:31] <delire> Matthew_W: ahah so you're using Cedega?
[08:32] <Thorrn4> HappyFool, can u help me out?
[08:32] <moparfan90> does ubuntu come with Wine or WineX?
[08:32] <justin> Thorrn4: what does that mean?
[08:32] <klaym> how do you upgrade to breezy?
[08:32] <moparfan90> does ubuntu come with Wine or WineX
[08:32] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: i can try
[08:33] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: have you tried switching to the non-gui console (Ctl-Alt-F1) and logging in there?
[08:33] <Matthew_W> delire:  yes, using cedega.
[08:33] <Matthew_W> delire:  so I need to figure this out.
[08:33] <Matthew_W> delire:  it's star wars battlefront
[08:34] <moparfan90> yea i want to play games to does ubuntu come with Wine or WINEX or cedega
[08:34] <delire> Matthew_W: i can't help then. perhaps seek #cedega or send them an email. you do have direct rendering though? what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' give you?
[08:34] <bartekp> hi
[08:34] <moparfan90> hiu'
[08:35] <moparfan90> hi
[08:35] <moparfan90> does ubuntu come with Wine or WineX
[08:35] <dr_willis> winex is comercial and been renamed to Cedega
[08:35] <dr_willis> so you can install WINE :P
[08:35] <dr_willis> or go buy the cedega license and install cedega
[08:35] <dr_willis> (which used to be winex)
[08:35] <moparfan90> how much is it
[08:35] <Trixsey> or download it illegaly!!!!
[08:35] <Trixsey> omgz0r
[08:36] <dr_willis> $5 a mo.
[08:36] <moparfan90> for how long
[08:36] <Trixsey> monthly fee?
[08:36] <dr_willis> go check out the Cedega Homepage. :)
[08:36] <delire> moparfan90: if you live forever, $5/month can be prohibitively expensive
[08:36] <dr_willis> then theres a few other wine spinoffs also.
[08:36] <Matthew_W> delire:  gives me direct rendering: No
[08:36] <Matthew_W> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:36] <dr_willis> depends on waht you want to run.
[08:36] <bartekp> moparfan90: wine is in universe in ubuntu
[08:37] <delire> Matthew_W: ahah ;) what graphics card?
[08:37] <moparfan90> so you  have to pay $5 a month for ever
[08:37] <moparfan90> or just until you download??/
[08:37] <HappyFool> moparfan90: until the heat death of the universe
[08:37] <Shachaf> delire: So do you think the problem is with the network?
[08:37] <HappyFool> moparfan90: which, as delire points out, makes it rather pricey
[08:37] <moparfan90> very funny
[08:37] <moparfan90> no real
[08:38] <moparfan90> realy
[08:38] <bartekp> moparfan90: you can download CVS version cedega
[08:38] <moparfan90> i tryed that
[08:38] <moparfan90> i cant install it
[08:38] <HappyFool> moparfan90: read cedega's web-page, as someone suggested
[08:38] <dr_willis> :P
[08:38] <moparfan90> :-P
[08:38] <delire> moparfan90: for i in range(forever); print "give me a fiver"
[08:38] <Matthew_W> delire:  SiS  (Silicon integrated systems) laptop integrated.
[08:38] <debian_linux> nick dbeian_
[08:39] <delire> Matthew_W: i don't think it's even possible to setup hardware accelleration for that device.
[08:39] <moparfan90> ok.
[08:39] <moparfan90> bye
[08:39] <bartekp> Matthew_W: lspci
[08:40] <Matthew_W> lspci floods me
[08:40] <Matthew_W> bartekp:  what should I be looking for?
[08:41] <delire> Matthew_W: lspci | grep VGA
[08:41] <bartekp> Matthew_W: lspci -v|grep VGA
[08:41] <Matthew_W> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661FX/M661FX/M661MX/741/M741/760/M760 PCI/AGP (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[08:41] <bartekp> Matthew_W: some SIS chips works with DRI
[08:41] <Matthew_W> bartekp: explain?
[08:41] <delire> ahah do they? cool
[08:42] <mz2> in OOo 2 Impress how the hell can you get rid of that side panel permanently
[08:43] <marco__> hello
[08:45] <HappyFool> ello
[08:45] <Seveas> howdy
[08:45] <Matthew_W> bartekp: so what do I have to do?
[08:45] <bartekp> Matthew_W: it should work with dri
[08:46] <bartekp> mz2: http://xfree86.activeventure.org/rs/sis.4.html
[08:46] <bartekp> hm
[08:46] <mz2> bartekp, huh?? :)
[08:46] <bartekp> mz2: sorry, mistake
[08:47] <spaltung> Hola
[08:48] <delire> Shachaf: i think so
[08:49] <aramiil> hello again
[08:49] <Shachaf> delire: This even worked with LFS, when I installed it on that machine a while ago.
[08:49] <tuku> Hi. I just installed ubuntu and it installed grub on /dev/hda but I need it on /dev/hdb. How can I install it on it?
[08:51] <ninwa> Oooh, Jones Soda 12 Pack! Woot
[08:51] <Seveas> tuku, grub-install (hd1)
[08:52] <ivoks> mako: ping
[08:52] <tuku> thanks, i try it
[08:53] <raptoid> whats downloader for x appz ?
[08:54] <tuku> does ubuntu use these hd0 and hd1 enstead of /dev/hda?
[08:54] <HappyFool> raptoid: what's that mean ? something other than synaptic ?
[08:54] <HappyFool> tuku: no, just grub
[08:54] <Hoxzer^^> Now somebody tell how to setup shell server
[08:54] <tuku> ok...thanks...got to go test how grub install worked
[08:54] <Hoxzer^^> quickly
[08:55] <mjr> Hoxzer^^, basically install ssh-server
[08:55] <Hoxzer^^> I need help
[08:55] <Hoxzer^^> thx
[08:55] <mjr> and that's about it
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> tuku no.
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> bleh
[08:55] <Seveas> openssh-server even
[08:55] <Consumer> hey guys
[08:55] <Consumer> is there any way to see how fast my PPP interface is running ?
[08:56] <Hoxzer^^> Mjr: can I login as root with it?
[08:56] <anacron> amm how do i change that when i double click my media files, it tries to open them with mplayer, and i don't even have it anymore
[08:57] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, not by default
[08:57] <Hoxzer^^> :O
[08:57] <Hoxzer^^> how do I setup it
[08:57] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, but you can enable it by creating a root account and editing the config
[08:57] <Seveas> it's VERY unsafe though and should not be done
[08:57] <Consumer> I just need to see how fast my adsl is running
[08:57] <Seveas> log in as an ordinary user and use sudo
[08:58] <anacron> amm my account works with root and i didn't make any changes to any configs
[08:58] <Hoxzer^^> Seveas: ok
[08:58] <Seveas> there's no sane person that does a remote login as root....
[08:58] <Hoxzer^^> well then I gues I install irssi before I go to work
[08:59] <justin> Seveas: VERY unsafe huh? since when?
[09:00] <Seveas> justin, since ever
[09:02] <delire> Shachaf: try a LiveCD like Knoppix or even better, Mepis.
[09:04] <Shachaf> delire: This works under Knoppix.
[09:04] <Shachaf> delire: Not the Ubuntu live CD, though.
[09:04] <anacron> Seveas: i assume that you have answer for my question again!, how do i change preffered application to videofiles?
[09:04] <mahl> Quick : whats the command for starting the setting screen resolution app
[09:05] <Seveas> anacron, rightclick on such a file and browse through the options on the appearing menu
[09:05] <geko> guys i am running xmms from fresh install
[09:05] <GNULinuxer> how can I go into init 3 on Ubuntu ?
[09:05] <Seveas> it's somewhere over there
[09:05] <geko> but it freezes when i open an mp3
[09:05] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, why would you?
[09:05] <GNULinuxer> no matter what runlevel I am in, GDM will always start
[09:05] <Seveas> runlevel 2,3,4 and 5 are the same...
[09:05] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, i want to do startx to start my GUI session
[09:06] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, remove gdm from runlevel2 then (hint: man update-rc.d)
[09:06] <justin> mahl: gnome-display-properties ?
[09:06] <mahl> im really really stressed
[09:06] <mahl> thanks!
[09:06] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, ohh
[09:06] <justin> GNULinuxer: remove gdm?
[09:06] <Thorrn4> HappyFool, sorry I took so long..I had to help my mom w/ something....can we go back to "problem solving"?
[09:06] <Consumer> nobody ?
[09:06] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: sure. as i said earlier, have you tried switching to the non-gui console (Ctl-Alt-F1) and logging in there?
[09:07] <Thorrn4> and that will do what HappyFool?
[09:07] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, I compiled gnome from CVS, now I created a .desktop entry to log into my new gnome ... but still i log into the default gnome
[09:07] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: test that you can login at all
[09:07] <Thorrn4> ok
[09:07] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: and maybe let use look at some error logs
[09:07] <Thorrn4> brb
[09:08] <delire> Shachaf: i have no idea. you could reboot into knoppix now and you're sure it will work?
[09:08] <HappyFool> Consumer: i don't think there's anything like in windows indicating connection speed (i assume that's your question still)
[09:08] <Consumer> yes mate
[09:08] <Consumer> I just need to know if BT are capping me heh
[09:08] <lsuactiafner> iftop -B
[09:08] <Consumer> should be running at 2mbps but I dunno
[09:08] <lsuactiafner> netwatch
[09:08] <HappyFool> Consumer: oh, in that case, find a big file to download and see how long it takes
[09:08] <Shachaf> delire: I don't think I have a Knoppix CD handy, but I can tell you that SUSE (which was what I tried to install before Ubuntu) connected successfully.
[09:09] <lsuactiafner> yeh download a 700mb iso.
[09:09] <HappyFool> Consumer: e.g., a cd image (ubuntu live cd, or maybe something you don't have)
[09:09] <lsuactiafner> Consumer : iftop and netwatch damnit
[09:09] <concept10> Anyone have SBC DSL?
[09:10] <delire> Shachaf: well i would consider telling that to one of the ubuntu-dev's it's such a common card and i'm sure several other people in this channel also use it.
[09:10] <sobersabre> hello ..
[09:10] <Hoxzer^^> Looks like My shell is working fine :)
[09:10] <sobersabre> greeting & salutations
[09:11] <Burgundavia> Shachaf, file a bug about it
[09:11] <sobersabre> Hoxzer^^, which shell is this ?
[09:11] <Shachaf> Burgundavia: But I don't know what the problem IS.
[09:11] <Shachaf> Burgundavia: This person seems to have a similiar problem, though: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11855
[09:11] <sobersabre> Shachaf, what the problem looks like ?
[09:11] <sobersabre> :)
[09:12] <Consumer> hmm netwatch is for ethernet interfaces only eh
[09:12] <Shachaf> sobersabre: I can't connect to the local network.
[09:12] <CruNcher> how can i see the current opened TCP connections ?
[09:12] <Consumer> I've got iftop
[09:12] <HappyFool> CruNcher: netstat -t
[09:12] <Burgundavia> Shachaf, the card doesn't work, that is a bug, even if you don't know what the issue is
[09:12] <Shachaf> sobersabre: I'm using an eepro100, but neither e100 nor eepro100 work with this.
[09:12] <Seveas> CruNcher, netstat -a
[09:13] <Shachaf> sobersabre: I tried DHCP and static IPs.
[09:13] <CruNcher> HappyFool i mean not so detailed just the amount in realtime
[09:13] <Seveas> CruNcher, netstat -t -l will list listening TCP servers
[09:13] <CruNcher> as a number
[09:13] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, how can I stop gdm at ini 3 ? it's NN is 13
[09:13] <Seveas> CruNcher, netstat -t -a | wc -l
[09:13] <HappyFool> CruNcher: err, dunno. i use netstat ;)
[09:14] <CruNcher> hehe nice thx Seveas
[09:15] <CruNcher> but -2
[09:15] <CruNcher> the 2 lines are no connections hehe
[09:16] <Ober> torrent has been running > 24 hours on a fast broadban
[09:16] <Ober> d
[09:16] <slept> I got some basic questions about a  c-programm (which I have to write because I don't have mapple)  I need to know how to check if a number is odd or even and how I could do something like a^(-1/3)  or a
[09:17] <wc_nix> i have a major problem
[09:17] <HappyFool> CruNcher: netstat -t|wc -l
[09:17] <wc_nix> if i shutdown my nix box and boot it up again, X11 wont open. I reinstall NVIDIA drivers and it says that the previous driver installation has been altered somehow.
[09:17] <wc_nix> after installation is complete again I restart and X11 starts
[09:17] <wc_nix> but when I try to login it says Xauth failed
[09:18] <HappyFool> slept: c and maple are quite different ;)
[09:18] <wc_nix> reason for all of this: unknown
[09:18] <HappyFool> slept: if you need to do numerics, i recommend something like octave
[09:18] <justin> wc_nix: are you using the .run file from nvidia?
[09:18] <wc_nix> yesa
[09:18] <wc_nix> yes*
[09:18] <HappyFool> slept: if you need a real computer algebra system, you will either need to purchase one, or use something like ginac (which is more of a framework)
[09:18] <wc_nix> if i telinit 6 (restart) no problems
[09:18] <wc_nix> if i telinit 0 (shutdown)
[09:19] <wc_nix> then start up comp later, X11 is jacked
[09:19] <justin> wc_nix: why would you do that instead of just installing the already packaged nvidia drivers?
[09:19] <thechitowncubs> Is it possible to resize partitions in a Knoppix live CD?
[09:19] <wc_nix> because they're newer
[09:19] <wc_nix> and official
[09:19] <justin> wc_nix: how are the newer and official drivers working for you?
[09:19] <Hoxzer> can I setup Ubuntu to run some commands at start?
[09:19] <wc_nix> it says this though...
[09:19] <thechitowncubs> What is the easiest way to resize an ext3 parition?
[09:19] <justin> Hoxzer: like what?
[09:20] <Hoxzer> Justin: like dnsflush
[09:20] <HappyFool> slept: to check if a number is odd/even, find the remainder wrt 2: a%2; for a^(-1/3), try pow(a,-1./3), and for a^2 just a*a or pow(a,2)
[09:20] <Hoxzer> I have always do it when it starts so it works
[09:20] <wc_nix> WARNING: Your driver installation has been altered since it was initially installed; this may happen, for example, if you have since installed the NVIDIA driver through a mechanism other than the nvidia-installer (Such as rpm or with the NVIDIA tarballs). The nvidia-Installer will attempt to uninstall as best it can.
[09:20] <we2by> how do I install identd?
[09:20] <slept> HappyFool, I know  about the difference , but it's verry simple to calculate it's just lot of work to do from Z=28 ... 38
[09:20] <Hoxzer> kj
[09:20] <Thorrn4> HappyFool, I can log in
[09:20] <slept> HappyFool, thanks I'll try
[09:21] <Seveas> we2by, aptitude purge identd
[09:21] <justin> Hoxzer: what is dnsflush?
[09:21] <HappyFool> slept: this is not really appropriate for #ubuntu anyway ;) try #c or maybe #maths or something
[09:21] <pepperpot> how do i stop samba clients from creating arbitrary symbolic links?
[09:21] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: ok. there are two log files which may help you
[09:21] <wc_nix> i'm so screwed
[09:22] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: one is /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but, since your login screen comes up ok, that may not have much of interest
[09:22] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: another one is ~/.xsession-errors, which may have something useful
[09:22] <Thorrn4> so I be root?
[09:22] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: oh, there's also /var/log/gdm/<stuff>
[09:23] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: no, you don't need to be root
[09:23] <Seveas> slept, int iseven(int a) { return ! a & 0x1; }
[09:23] <Seveas> slept, very simple, works on big numbers...
[09:23] <Seveas> slept, int iseven(int a) { return ! (a & 0x1); }
[09:23] <wc_nix> and why cant i login with GDM? It says an error message
[09:23] <Seveas> that's even better
[09:23] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: sorry, i'm assuming you know how to read text files etc -- please tell me if you don't
[09:23] <slept> HappyFool, I thouth that would happen with try #c , but because the questions were that simple I just asked. And most time I spent in here I don't flood the channel.
[09:23] <wc_nix> i'll type the error message out
[09:23] <HappyFool> slept: no big deal ;)
[09:23] <wc_nix> xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/.Xauthority
[09:23] <slept> Seveas, thanks
[09:24] <wc_nix> any idea how to fix?
[09:24] <Thorrn4> nope...I dont kno how 2 read it HappyFool
[09:24] <justin> wc_nix: why is your home directory set to /home ?
[09:24] <wc_nix> it's not
[09:24] <wc_nix> i just dont want to type my username
[09:24] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: just to check -- is ubuntu on a different computer from the one you're chatting from ?
[09:25] <wc_nix> xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/username/.Xauthority
[09:25] <wc_nix> where username is my username
[09:25] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: you don't have to reboot or something every time ?
[09:25] <Seveas> wc_nix, remove ~/.Xauthrity then
[09:25] <thechitowncubs> What is the easiest way to resize an ext3 parition?
[09:25] <justin> wc_nix: did you fill up your /home partition? did you do something to cause that file or your home directory to be owned by root?
[09:25] <wc_nix> Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running remove /tmp/.x0-lock and start again.
[09:25] <wc_nix> i dont think so
[09:25] <Seveas> wc_nix, remove that too...
[09:25] <wc_nix> should i remove that tmp file?
[09:25] <wc_nix> k lemme try that
[09:26] <Thorrn4> ...Im on Ubuntu...but using a 2nd account
[09:26] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: oh
[09:26] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: so this account works ?
[09:26] <Thorrn4> this one.....but not the 1 I want 2 use
[09:26] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: puzzling
[09:26] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: when did your system break?
[09:27] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: and what were you doing at the time, or just previously?
[09:27] <justin> s/system/user account/
[09:27] <HappyFool> justin: oops, yes, sorry
[09:27] <gallonegro> are the ubuntu forums down
[09:27] <seth_k> yep
[09:27] <Thorrn4> It's trying to open a .iceSOMETHING file...I think thats what it said when I try to log into that account HappyFool
[09:27] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: hm
[09:27] <Seveas> Thorrn4, remove .ICEauthority from the other users homedir
[09:28] <Thorrn4> yesterday it was working fine...besides a DCOP error...and how I cannot get it
[09:28] <Seveas> Thorrn4, and you can login again
[09:29] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: do as Seveas suggests. It may be easiest to do so from the console (Ctl-Alt-F1) (to get back to GUI, Alt-F7)
[09:29] <HappyFool> unless your new user has sudo rights
[09:29] <Thorrn4> yea Seveas that is the file it wants
[09:29] <schlomo> Hi
[09:29] <kvidell> ctrl+alt+f7 I thought.. there's only 6 ttys
[09:29] <wc_nix> 7 is GUI
[09:29] <schlomo> ubuntuforums.org is down ?
[09:29] <Seveas> Thorrn4, then simply remove it
[09:30] <concept10> Anyone use DSL?
[09:30] <schlomo> I can ping it but can't access via http
[09:30] <kvidell> schlomo: temporarily, I'm told.
[09:30] <thechitowncubs> What is the easiest way to resize an ext3 parition?
[09:30] <Thorrn4> I do concept10
[09:30] <lsuactiafner> thechitowncubs : parted
[09:30] <schlomo> arf :(
[09:30] <lsuactiafner> i think..
[09:30] <thechitowncubs> is there a way i can do it while its active?
[09:30] <kvidell> schlomo: anything I/we can help you with or were you just browsing out of boredom and it went explodey on ya?
[09:30] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, no
[09:30] <thechitowncubs> like chroot into a livecd?
[09:31] <concept10> Thorrn4, who do you use and how did you set that up?
[09:31] <schlomo> kvidell : I just found some great thread about wifi problem
[09:31] <kvidell> ah, okay
[09:31] <schlomo> kvidell :same as mine
[09:31] <gallonegro> i didnt know nero releasaed a version for linux, does anyone know if neerolinux runs in ubuntu
[09:32] <schlomo> concept10 : yes
[09:32] <wc_nix> i still get that timeout
[09:32] <wc_nix> xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/username/.Xauthority
[09:32] <wc_nix> i deleted the file
[09:32] <wc_nix> so why am i still getting the error
[09:32] <wc_nix> :-|
[09:32] <user2> hi.
[09:32] <justin> wc_nix: did you fill up your /home partition? did you do something to cause that file or your home directory to be owned by root?
[09:32] <wc_nix> dont think so
[09:32] <wc_nix> :-\
[09:32] <justin> wc_nix: don't guess. look.
[09:32] <seth_k> gallonegro, it does, but k3b is better
[09:33] <wc_nix> Little Shit -l my home directory then?
[09:33] <wc_nix> Oh My God!
[09:33] <user2> hey guys,
[09:33] <schlomo> concept10 : which modem did u use ?
[09:33] <wc_nix> stupid script
[09:33] <user2> what do you prefer, emacs or standalone reader
[09:33] <user2> :)
[09:33] <Seveas> wc_nix, language...
[09:33] <justin> wc_nix: ls -l /home/ ; df -h
[09:33] <concept10> schlomo, 2Wire 1800HG
[09:33] <wc_nix> sorry it was my stupid acronym script
[09:33] <Thorrn4> I use Verizon DSL concept10
[09:33] <HappyFool> user2: emacs is always the correct answer
[09:33] <wc_nix> i didnt know ls was on it
[09:33] <wc_nix> terribly sorry
[09:33] <user2> why?
[09:33] <user2> :O
[09:33] <user2> bear with me, i'm 9.
[09:34] <user2> it won't be a waste either, :)
[09:34] <Thorrn4> and concept10, when I installed ubuntu, I had an ethernet connected and Ubuntu connect to the internet
[09:34] <Thorrn4> Seveas, it worked
[09:34] <Thorrn4> thank you
[09:34] <justin> user2: you can't be 9, you actually spell things correctly
[09:34] <Seveas> yw :)
[09:34] <HappyFool> user2: what do you mean by a 'standalone reader' ?
[09:34] <wc_nix> uh oh
[09:34] <wc_nix> (justin) you're right
[09:34] <Thorrn4> HappyFool, Seveas' Idea worked
[09:34] <wc_nix> some reason root owns my username folder
[09:34] <user2> i've read several documents from with inn emacs, and I currently see no difference
[09:34] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: good stuff
[09:34] <wc_nix> chown it to the username?
[09:34] <Seveas> emacs is evil
[09:34] <user2> Stand alone reader to invoke info
[09:34] <Seveas> pure evil
[09:35] <HappyFool> user2: oh, i see
[09:35] <user2> :)
[09:35] <HappyFool> user2: it doesn't really matter
[09:35] <Seveas> user2, simply use the command: info
[09:35] <Thorrn4> some people like it Seveas
[09:35] <justin> wc_nix: at least.. probably have other things in there.. try...
[09:35] <Seveas> Thorrn4, some people are satanists too :)
[09:35] <wc_nix> recursive?
[09:35] <wc_nix> chown -R username target_directory
[09:35] <wc_nix> ?
[09:35] <user2> But, also I keep in mind that i've read that I cannot edit info with Stand Alone..
[09:35] <HappyFool> user2: i'm used to the emacs keys -- i think the info commands are very slightly different
[09:35] <wc_nix> or -r
[09:35] <user2> :(
[09:35] <Thorrn4> it just so happens that those 2 groups of people might be related Seveas
[09:35] <wc_nix> capital R
[09:36] <Seveas> Thorrn4, 'might'?
[09:36] <Seveas> :)
[09:36] <TokenBad> anyone here know how to python script?
[09:36] <wc_nix> woohoo
[09:36] <Seveas> TokenBad, #python
[09:36] <justin> wc_nix: find /home/yourusername -user root
[09:36] <wc_nix> worked
[09:36] <wc_nix> thanks a bunch
[09:36] <user2> :) Hey,
[09:36] <justin> wc_nix: see how bad it is
[09:36] <user2> thanks alot.
[09:36] <wc_nix> (justin) no need
[09:36] <user2> :)
[09:36] <TokenBad> I have a script need edited so it will work on nix..
[09:36] <wc_nix> i just chowned it all
[09:36] <Thorrn4> but I dont think that we REALLY need proof Seveas
[09:36] <TokenBad> it was originally done for windows
[09:36] <djm62> TokenBad: to what extent? do you just need the right #! ?
[09:36] <wc_nix> i did chown -R my_username /home/
[09:36] <Seveas> Thorrn4, me neither
[09:36] <wc_nix> thanks :-D
[09:37] <wc_nix> now for the NVIDIA problem, any idea why it's giving me the problem?
[09:37] <justin> wc_nix: um, but now you messed up the permissions  of /home itself
[09:37] <Seveas> TokenBad, then learn to program python or ask someone to fix it up for you
[09:37] <TokenBad> djm62, not sure...
[09:37] <wc_nix> why's that?
[09:37] <justin> wc_nix: because /home/ should be owned by root
[09:37] <TokenBad> Seveas, that is why asked if anyone knew pythong scripting
[09:37] <Seveas> wc_nix, are you really that stupid or are you just playing with us?
[09:37] <wc_nix> Laughing Out Loud
[09:37] <HappyFool> #python is usually quite friendly. if you ask a specific question, you should get a useful answer
[09:37] <user2> well, I have to head out. See ya all around.
[09:37] <user2> :)
[09:38] <user2> Goodluckz
[09:38] <TokenBad> not to sure they will help with this though
[09:38] <Seveas> there's not that many people either in here or there that help fixing up a complete script...
[09:38] <djm62> TokenBad: the first line should be "#!/usr/bin/python"
[09:38] <wc_nix> ./home is O W N E D by root still
[09:38] <TokenBad> I just need to know if it can be converted to work on linux...
[09:38] <wc_nix> Oh My God! i'm turning this damn script off
[09:39] <HappyFool> wc_nix: heh
[09:39] <Seveas> wc_nix, you shouldn't be running scripts at all in an irc client...
[09:39] <Seveas> escpecially not such obnoxious ones...
[09:39] <wc_nix> it's on a windows box, thought i disabled it
[09:39] <djm62> TokenBad: it depends on the script...one can write non-portable python
[09:39] <TokenBad> damn and I can't tell the difference
[09:40] <djm62> TokenBad: what script is it? is it online somewhere?
[09:40] <TokenBad> djm62, can I msg you
[09:40] <wc_nix> k disabled it
[09:40] <djm62> TokenBad: ok
[09:40] <wc_nix> lol
[09:40] <wc_nix> sorry about that people
[09:41] <wc_nix> ok now back to the problem, /home is still owned by root but everything in my user account's home directory is owned by my user account
[09:41] <wc_nix> is that bad?
[09:41] <djm62> TokenBad: this is assuming it's a few lines, and not an OS
[09:42] <Seveas> TokenBad, how big is the script?
[09:42] <HappyFool> wc_nix: everything in /home/wc_nix/ should be owned by wc_nix
[09:42] <wc_nix> k then i'm fine
[09:42] <wc_nix> (Seveas) called me a moron for setting everything in that folder to my user account
[09:43] <HappyFool> wc_nix: the command you posted appeared to change ownership of /home
[09:43] <wc_nix> i didnt use that command
[09:43] <wc_nix> it cutoff the username, i did chown -R /home/wc_nix
[09:43] <wc_nix> chown -r (wc_nix) /home/wc_nix
[09:43] <wc_nix> my mistake
[09:43] <Seveas> -R
[09:43] <Seveas> i hope
[09:43] <HappyFool> unfortunately our telepathy module is not functioning today, so we couldn't guess that ;)
[09:43] <JohnMurdoch> IMO everything in /home/useraccount should have permissions of 750
[09:43] <wc_nix> yeah
[09:43] <rapha> Hi all
[09:43] <wc_nix> sry for the typos
[09:44] <Seveas> JohnMurdoch, not true
[09:44] <pfp> hey, i'm writing a small script to copy pictures from my camera, and i'd like it to show a simple progress bar (X, maybe even GTK) when it's copying. any suggestions on how to create the 'bar?
[09:44] <rapha> What is that DTP program for GNOME called again?
[09:44] <JohnMurdoch> Seveas, why?
[09:44] <TokenBad> about 151 lines
[09:44] <wc_nix> but any idea why NVIDIA dies after an full shutdown? but not a restart?
[09:44] <Seveas> .plan / .gpgkey and stuff should not on large multiuser systems
[09:44] <justin> wc_nix: reinstall xlibmesa-gl, then install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[09:44] <Seveas> and easy-to-share stuff
[09:44] <Seveas> like ~/public_html/
[09:44] <wc_nix> what's wrong with the official drivers though?
[09:44] <JohnMurdoch> Seveas, for a single user system? (apologies for not indicating this)
[09:44] <Seveas> TokenBad, paste it at paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:45] <Seveas> i'll have a look
[09:45] <justin> pfp: zenity
[09:45] <justin> wc_nix: you tell me what is wrong with them?
[09:45] <Seveas> JohnMurdoch, for a singleuser system it doesn't matter whether it's 777 or 700...
[09:45] <wc_nix> something else is affecting them
[09:45] <JohnMurdoch> Seveas, security wise it doesn't?
[09:46] <djm62> rapha: scribus?
[09:46] <wc_nix> i think i fixed it
[09:46] <pfp> justin: that looks like what i need, thanks :)
[09:46] <wc_nix> by the way i have 1 last question, how come if i have network cable plugged in it boots up rapidly but if i dont it hangs on the network setup feature
[09:47] <wc_nix> shouldnt it quickly realize there's no network connection and continue bootup?
[09:47] <justin> wc_nix: should, doesn't..
[09:47] <wc_nix> ok, so the hang is normal then?
[09:47] <kvidell> just hit Ctrl+C when it gets to that and it'll zip on by it
[09:47] <justin> wc_nix: if you install ifplugd and set it up it will
[09:47] <wc_nix> ok
[09:47] <kvidell> or that
[09:47] <kvidell> hehe
[09:47] <wc_nix> now i have to figure out how to setup wifi drivers
[09:47] <Seveas> wc_nix, for breezy that will be solved...
[09:48] <mako> Seveas: i'm around
[09:48] <wc_nix> what?
[09:48] <Seveas> mako, whow, that's been hours :)
[09:48] <wc_nix> for breezy?
[09:48] <Seveas> i sent you a mail already after i saw that you were idle for 9 hours :
[09:48] <Seveas> :)
[09:49] <Seveas> wc_nix, the if-i-dont-have-a-cable-in-my-pc-it-boots-up-slow problem
[09:49] <kvidell> breezy is the next release of Ubuntu's name
[09:49] <wc_nix> ok i didnt know that
[09:49] <wc_nix> i assumed that but didnt know for sure
[09:49] <kvidell> :)
[09:49] <wc_nix> Seveas, what about WiFi drivers?
[09:49] <wc_nix> are they easy to obtain?
[09:50] <justin> wc_nix: you already have them all
[09:50] <wc_nix> hmm
[09:50] <Seveas> wc_nix, depends on the card..
[09:50] <wc_nix> it's a Broadcom 802.11b/g
[09:50] <wc_nix> came with my compaq laptop built-in
[09:50] <wc_nix> HP laptop**
[09:50] <justin> wc_nix: eh, that sucks :-)
[09:50] <wc_nix> i know
[09:50] <wc_nix> i think my rabbit ears pickup better signal
[09:51] <Seveas> wc_nix, it doesn't suck usually
[09:51] <gahan> whats IN PTR for?:)
[09:51] <Seveas> works out of the box
[09:51] <wc_nix> well my friend's dell picks up better too
[09:51] <wc_nix> yeah the card works but the light wont light up
[09:51] <Seveas> gahan, ipaddress to hostname resolving
[09:51] <wc_nix> to show card is enabled
[09:52] <wc_nix> and would it be eth1 since eth0 is the LAN controller?
[09:52] <Seveas> wc_nix, could be
[09:52] <Seveas> or ath0 if it's an atheros
[09:52] <djm62> does ifplugd stop the search for ntp as well?
[09:52] <wc_nix> also what's the deal with cool'n'quiet and linux?
[09:52] <Seveas> wc_nix, try ifconfig -a
[09:52] <wc_nix> is it enabled?
[09:52] <Seveas> that'll show you the interfaces you have
[09:52] <pfp> gahan: PTR records map ip addresses to hostname in reverse dns
[09:52] <justin> iwconfig is a better command to run
[09:52] <wc_nix> alright, thanks
[09:53] <deffy> Hi people
[09:53] <wc_nix> but cool'n'quiet is forced enabled on my laptop. it stays at 800MHz and supposed to rise to 1.8GHz whenever more power is needed
[09:53] <deffy> about ready to smash stuff here
[09:53] <wc_nix> does Linux work with cool'n'quiet?
[09:53] <wc_nix> or do i need to get 3rd party drivers to support it?
[09:53] <justin> what moron came up with this "cool'n'quiet" crap?
[09:53] <wc_nix> i dunno but i hate them for it
[09:53] <Seveas> wc_nix, it;s called frequency scaling
[09:53] <wc_nix> HP wont let me disable it in BIOS
[09:53] <deffy> combination of trying to get my USB dongle to work and the fact that it's super hot outside
[09:53] <Seveas> nad it's used by default and rocks
[09:54] <Seveas> and*
[09:54] <wc_nix> but Linux supports it?
[09:54] <wc_nix> so i am getting my full 1.8GHz when it's needed in linux?
[09:54] <justin> wc_nix: install cpufreqd
[09:54] <Seveas> wc_nix, rightclick on the panel, select add to panel and choose cpu frequency scaling monitor
[09:54] <Seveas> do NOT install cpufreqd
[09:54] <mjr> justin, isn't powernowd installed by default?
[09:54] <wc_nix> ok, thanks
[09:54] <deffy> so here is my problem, I've installed the drivers and went over the rt2500 page on the wiki, but my system still does not seem to realize that the dongle is there
[09:54] <wc_nix> justin
[09:54] <justin> oh i dunno, it "just works" on my laptop
[09:54] <wc_nix> i fixed my nVidia problem :-)
[09:55] <wc_nix> found out i accidently left a default nvidia module installed
[09:55] <wc_nix> so it conflicted with my custom drivers
[09:55] <duncanmak> hello
[09:55] <wc_nix> hi
[09:55] <kvidell> Howdy
[09:55] <oxel> Can anyone help me with a USB device issue? I see my Zen Nomad in my Device Manager list, but Gnomad won't see it...
[09:55] <justin> though it sucks that it can only do 800mhz or 1.6ghz, I'd run it at 100mhz all the time if I could
[09:55] <duncanmak> i restarted my hoary machine, and now GDM is not starting
[09:55] <duncanmak> it says Could not init font path element unix:/7100
[09:56] <duncanmak> how do i force xfs to start?
[09:56] <justin> duncanmak: that is a warning, not an error
[09:56] <duncanmak> hmm
[09:56] <wc_nix> hey Justin and Seveas, thanks for all the help
[09:56] <wc_nix> very much appreciated
[09:56] <duncanmak> and then it says X: client 2 rejected from local host
[09:56] <justin> duncanmak: does startx work?
[09:56] <duncanmak> ah
[09:57] <duncanmak> libXu.so.6 is missing?
[09:57] <duncanmak> libXau.so.6 is missing
[09:57] <justin> duncanmak: are you using breezy or something?
[09:57] <duncanmak> which package contains that?
[09:57] <duncanmak> i'm using hoary
[09:58] <duncanmak> but i'm using some other apt sources, so maybe that caused a problem
[09:58] <justin> duncanmak: libxau6 believe ir or not :-P
[09:58] <tritium> duncanmak, which other apt sources are you using?
[09:58] <wc_nix> whoa
[09:58] <duncanmak> which package contains libXau?
[09:58] <wc_nix> i found an exact guide on how to setup my WIFI card with linux
[09:58] <duncanmak> i just want to get it up and working first
[09:58] <wc_nix> and it does involve iwconfig
[09:58] <amonkey> is there a way to find out what proccess triggered an error? i get errors when i log in about command not found and having to be root (2 exactly) and what to know wha't causing them
[09:58] <Seveas> duncanmak, don't you ever read what people say?
[09:59] <synd> nalioth_zZzZzZzZ: wake up you fag
[09:59] <wc_nix> i gotta go, thanks for the help once again justin and Seveas
[09:59] <duncanmak> hmm, it's already installed
[09:59] <wc_nix> bbl peace
[09:59] <Seveas> synd, language please...
[09:59] <tritium> synd, dude...
[09:59] <justin> amonkey: bash -x -l ?
[09:59] <_kevin> who needs help, I'm a linux noob ready to help anyone to the best of my abilities
[09:59] <duncanmak> justin: what's the equivalent of rpm --rebuilddb?
[09:59] <synd> dude
[09:59] <duncanmak> i think my packages db is broken
[10:00] <tritium> duncanmak, did you see my question?
[10:00] <Seveas> duncanmak, apt-get update
[10:00] <justin> duncanmak: why would you think that?
[10:00] <duncanmak> justin: it crashed during an update from synaptic
[10:01] <Seveas> duncanmak, then just do an apt-get update again
[10:01] <tritium> It's always a pleasure when you try to help someone, and they ignore you...
[10:01] <Seveas> and if you really think it's messed up: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[10:01] <duncanmak> i use: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[10:01] <duncanmak> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe
[10:01] <duncanmak> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[10:01] <duncanmak> deb http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ ./
[10:01] <duncanmak> deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ warty java
[10:01] <duncanmak> deb http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[10:01] <duncanmak> deb http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu hoary-security main restricted
[10:01] <duncanmak> deb-src http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[10:01] <duncanmak> deb ftp://neacm.fe.up.pt/pub/ubuntu-java/ binary/
[10:01] <HappyFool> aargh
[10:01] <duncanmak> deb-src ftp://neacm.fe.up.pt/pub/ubuntu-java/ source/
[10:01] <duncanmak> all of those
[10:01] <sitle> hi ^^
[10:01] <Seveas> you should not paste in here
[10:02] <Seveas> you will now be ignored
[10:02] <synd> duncanmak: pastebin.ca
[10:02] <djm62> duncanmak: people use much the same things, there is no need for multiple similar lines...
[10:02] <thermyte> so I am reconfiguring my debian server and I am thinking I may want to install ubuntu instead of debian. What are the most noticable differences?
[10:02] <Seveas> duncanmak, and OH MY GOD fix up that sources.list
[10:02] <Quest-Master> Gnome really needs a new file manager
[10:03] <djm62> thermyte: ubuntu will be more up-to-date, so you may not wish to change a running server that often
[10:03] <Quest-Master> Nautilus is terrible. ;(
[10:03] <deffy> So anyone know how I can make ubuntu see the USB dongle which is not showing up in the Network Settings?
[10:03] <deffy> This is the 3rd time I've gone through the wiki to install this thing
[10:03] <deffy> and I'm really getting frustrated
[10:03] <djm62> Quest-Master: YOU can always use a different file manager :-/
[10:03] <thermyte> I severly hate gnome
[10:04] <thermyte> its all about blackbox
[10:04] <djm62> I'm slightly ambivalent...I find the spatial browsing makes it hard to search for stuff
[10:04] <Quest-Master> djm62: None of them have the daily functionality they should.
[10:04] <Quest-Master> I mean.
[10:04] <hlwende> what f manager doyou recomend
[10:04] <Quest-Master> Nautilus's features rock.
[10:04] <thermyte> heh, who needs a file manager
[10:04] <tritium> djm62, you don't have to use spatial mode
[10:04] <djm62> I haven't tried them all, Quest-Maste, so I defer to you
[10:04] <WeirdAl> anyone know where I can get help for ftpd
[10:04] <Quest-Master> But it is so damn unstable here, not one day has passed where Nautilus has not crashed at least 10 times.
[10:04] <Quest-Master> No joke.
[10:04] <deffy> anyone?
[10:05] <thermyte> WeirdAl: I have always used vsftpd
[10:05] <tuku> When you install new software at synaptic do you have to logout before them appears to menu?
[10:05] <Quest-Master> That's pretty bad too, since Windows Explorer doesn't crash that much in one day. ><
[10:05] <djm62> tritium: I generally like spatial mode, it just gets annoying poking in and out every so often
[10:05] <tritium> tuku, not all packages will appear in your menu
[10:05] <tritium> not all have a proper .desktop file
[10:05] <djm62> Quest-Master: how reproducible is it? is it a version which is supposed to be stable?
[10:06] <WeirdAl> thermyte, does that go by UNIX users or does it have its own set?
[10:06] <Quest-Master> djm62: Sure is. Usually happens whenever I right-click a file.
[10:06] <thermyte> unix users
[10:06] <WeirdAl> handy. Does it have a gui?
[10:06] <djm62> Quest-Master: whenever you right-click ANY file?
[10:06] <tuku> I installed tuxracer. But anyway does it reguire logout before menu updata or not?
[10:06] <thermyte> stands for "very secure ftp"
[10:06] <tuku> updata = update
[10:06] <thermyte> no gui that I know of
[10:06] <mjr> tuku, shouldn't
[10:07] <Quest-Master> djm62: Yeah. It happens most on media files though.
[10:07] <mjr> tuku, if it does, your fam (or rather, gamin) isn't working properly
[10:07] <thermyte> I am a term monkey, I think everything should be term based that can be
[10:07] <Quest-Master> It's an on and off thing, not reproducible.
[10:07] <WeirdAl> thermyte, does it have a GUI?
[10:07] <djm62> Quest-Master: it sounds like you have a problem there...
[10:07] <Quest-Master> Happens now and then.
[10:07] <thermyte> WeirdAl: not that I know of
[10:07] <WeirdAl> hm
[10:07] <Quest-Master> And it pisses me off to no end whatsoever as you can imagine since I'm a huge anime and music guy,
[10:07] <Quest-Master> *.
[10:07] <tritium> thermyte, then you should be "termyte" ;)
[10:07] <thermyte> hehe
[10:07] <djm62> Quest-Master: I can make it crash in directories with bignum files all needing previewed...
[10:07] <Quest-Master> Even Konqueror is more stable, but I don't like KDE.
[10:08] <WeirdAl> See, the problem I'm having is that when a user uploads, the default perms are 600
[10:08] <tritium> Quest-Master, more stable in your case, that is
[10:08] <chombee> Does anyone know if the Ubuntu install CD can be started from a DOS prompt? What do I run?
[10:08] <Quest-Master> djm62: I don't have previewing on for any files.
[10:08] <WeirdAl> So no one can access their HTML through a browser.
[10:08] <termyte> ?
[10:08] <thevillain> Hi! I just received the ubuntu live- and installcds in the mail today
[10:08] <HappyFool> chombee: i think that is relatively unlikely
[10:08] <thevillain> however, I wasn't able to su to root
[10:09] <HappyFool> chombee: can't you boot from the cd?
[10:09] <djm62> thevillain: you can't...use sudo instead
[10:09] <WeirdAl> thevillain: no root in ubuntu
[10:09] <_alessandro> Hi friends! Someone can tell me how can I use my new TRUST camera in KUbuntu?
[10:09] <termyte> I believe ftp perms are determined by the default umask for ftp
[10:09] <thevillain> WeirdAl, djm62 ok sure
[10:09] <WeirdAl> thevillain, use sudo <root command>
[10:09] <thevillain> I thought so, thx alot
[10:09] <termyte> you could just set g+s on the directory they upload to
[10:09] <mjt> someone add this "where's my root" to /topic.  Pleease ;)
[10:09] <WeirdAl> k
[10:09] <tritium> mjr, huh?
[10:09] <chombee> HappyFool - is there a way to make an Ubuntu boot disk? My friend has a laptop with an external USB cdrom, he can't boot from the cdrom but can boot from a floppy then lauch a Windows install from the cdrom
[10:09] <HappyFool> !uboto root
[10:09] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, HappyFool
[10:09] <thevillain> WeirdAl: I was just sitting here at my gentoo desktop, and it was a bit easier to press /j ubuntu :)
[10:09] <nern> HI
[10:09] <thevillain> thx alot, bi
[10:10] <HappyFool> chombee: um
[10:10] <WeirdAl> termyte, that doesn't help. It's already like that.
[10:10] <_alessandro> Hi friends! Someone can tell me how can I use my new TRUST camera in KUbuntu?
[10:10] <WeirdAl> It's the individual files that don't help.
[10:10] <chombee> Or, I just need a way to install Ubuntu without booting from cdrom
[10:10] <tritium> mjr, that's an FAQ, and it's also in the wiki
[10:10] <termyte> WeirdAl: hmm, let me poke around a bit
[10:10] <HappyFool> chombee: you can try here, but it might be a bit of work: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetbootInstallHowto
[10:11] <HappyFool> chombee: sorry, don't know much more
[10:11] <spoosh> I'm a beginning programmer and  I want to know what's the best way to get started developing for ubuntu
[10:11] <chombee> HappyFool - okay, thanks
[10:11] <tritium> spoosh, python is a nice language to learn when starting out
[10:11] <gahan> can i make my 2 panels in gnome become one? so i'll have menus, tray, taskbar in one panel
[10:11] <djm62> spoosh: any way you like...there are some exciting things happening in c# and gnome at the moment
[10:11] <spoosh> i can learn any language
[10:11] <hardcampa-> yeah I wondered about that. Is it the same python as there are for Unix Windows
[10:12] <Seveas> gahan, of course...
[10:12] <Shachaf> I can't get networking working in Ubuntu.
[10:12] <hardcampa-> or is it a DICE invention
[10:12] <HappyFool> useful link for learning python: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
[10:12] <tritium> spoosh, you should already have "Dive Into Python" installed.  Check the Help system, under Applications->Programming
[10:12] <djm62> spoosh: but python would be better for learning to program, and has gtk bindings for graphical stuff
[10:12] <Seveas> HappyFool, or apt-get install diveintopython
[10:12] <HappyFool> thinkcspy is better for beginner programmers
[10:12] <justin> Shachaf: what does mii-tool and mii-diag output?
[10:12] <gahan> Seveas: how do i?
[10:12] <spoosh> i can do basic programming
[10:12] <HappyFool> diveintopython is slightly more advanced
[10:12] <hardcampa-> argh wrong channel lol ...forget about my question
[10:12] <Seveas> gahan, rightclick on the panels and browse throug the menu that appears,,
[10:12] <spoosh> i've been looking into mono and c# i wasn't sure about ubuntu development though
[10:13] <jon273> why do directories and files i create on a global nfs share always end up being owned by nobody:nogroup with 741 perms?
[10:13] <tritium> ubuntu-desktop depends on diveintopython, so he should already have it
[10:13] <Shachaf> justin: How am I supposed to get the data to you?
[10:13] <Shachaf> justin: One computer is upstairs, and the other is downstairs.
[10:13] <spoosh> i could always install it
[10:13] <tuku> %%% tuxracer warning: Warning: Couldn't set 22050 Hz 16-bit audio
[10:13] <tuku>   Reason: No available audio device
[10:13] <tuku> . Sound works othervise well.What can be problem?
[10:13] <Shachaf> justin: I'm using an eepro100, and I tried both eepro100 and e100.
[10:13] <hardcampa-> About python: This is pretty neat. As long as it's the same Python: QuestionBot> [DICE] Sanosuke answers: We have a scripting language in BF2, Python.
[10:13] <justin> Shachaf: you don't. read it yourself and see what it is telling you
[10:13] <Seveas> tuku, teach tuxracer to use esd
[10:13] <djm62> spoosh: ubuntu has lots of python stuff ready to install and it's lovely to program in
[10:13] <spoosh> i have diveintopython installed
[10:13] <Shachaf> justin: I read it.
[10:14] <justin> Shachaf: and what did it say?
[10:14] <tuku> Seveas: How?
[10:14] <Seveas> And ubuntu pushes python very hard
[10:14] <Shachaf> justin: According to it, everything is fine.
[10:14] <Seveas> tuku, search through the options
[10:14] <justin> Shachaf: 100mbit full duplex?
[10:14] <spoosh> would it be better for me to start programming by fixing bugs in bugzilla or ?
[10:14] <chrissturm> spoosh: /join #ubuntu-love
[10:15] <spoosh> alright
[10:15] <aramiil> hello again! (for those who where here 14 hours before ^^)
[10:15] <HappyFool> spoosh: maybe took a look for a python project on sf.net that catches your interest
[10:15] <Shachaf> justin: Yes.
[10:15] <aaaaa> someone -i don't know WHY- has installed the obsolote and insecure Storm Linux 2000 on a box to be used as a server. Discuss
[10:15] <spoosh> i'm going to check out sf.net now
[10:15] <justin> Shachaf: is the other end another linux box or a little hardware router?
[10:16] <Shachaf> justin: Little hardware router.
[10:16] <Shachaf> justin: This same card works in other distributions.
[10:16] <justin> Shachaf: dmesg say anything?
[10:17] <aramiil> I've fot a little problem: I try to install PHP 5.0.4 and when I do ./configure --with-apxs2 --with-mysql it answer me: configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up (and the line before: line 2422: lex: command not found)
[10:17] <Shachaf> justin: According to dmesg everything is fine.
[10:17] <Seveas> aramiil, sudo aptitude install build-essential bison flex
[10:17] <justin> Shachaf: ifconfig -a only shows one eth interface right?
[10:18] <justin> Shachaf: does it show any RX packets ?
[10:18] <Shachaf> justin: Only one.
[10:18] <Shachaf> justin: And RX says 0.
[10:18] <aramiil> Seveas> Heu... sorry, but I just begin with linux, and i'm french, so my english isn't really good... i didn't understood a word of what you sad... :'(
[10:18] <spoosh> i'm still confused at what's probably the best way to get some better programming practice. i figured ubuntu development would be interesting
[10:18] <aramiil> :s
[10:18] <sobersabre> guys. where is the documentation of ubuntu kernel compilation ?
[10:19] <Seveas> aramiil, type in that command exactly...
[10:19] <lsuactiafner> sobersabre : you dont need ubuntu kernel compile
[10:19] <justin> Shachaf: it have a real mac address (not 00:00:00... or such) ?
[10:19] <lsuactiafner> its the same on all distros
[10:19] <djm62> spoosh: best to get a book on python, and get used to it, then try reading and modifying other people's code
[10:19] <sobersabre> lsuactiafner, I do need.
[10:19] <lsuactiafner> just find something somewhere on google
[10:19] <tritium> actually, there is a debian/ubuntu way, lsuactiafner
[10:20] <HappyFool> spoosh: i'd recommend finding a small python project and getting involved there
[10:20] <Seveas> aramiil, et aussil, va  #ubuntu-fr pour aide en franais
[10:20] <spoosh> is python what most people are developing in now
[10:20] <tritium> The package named "kernel-package" provides the command "make-kpkg" for building a kernel .deb
[10:20] <HappyFool> spoosh: #python is a good place to hang out for python discussion
[10:20] <lsuactiafner> tritium : cant imagine how it can be differant
[10:20] <sobersabre> lsuactiafner, is there a software suspend able kernel in ubuntu ?
[10:20] <aramiil> ok ;)
[10:20] <spoosh> i'll check it out.
[10:20] <HappyFool> spoosh: there are many languages. c# and java may be more marketable
[10:20] <Shachaf> justin: Yes.
[10:20] <lsuactiafner> sobersabre : btw, making your own kernel is a very good idea and dont make ppl convince you otherwise.
[10:20] <tritium> lsuactiafner, install kernel-package and read the docs.  Also, it's mentioned in the Debian Reference, and other places.
[10:20] <spoosh> i've done basic programming in both
[10:20] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, it is not
[10:20] <lsuactiafner> sobersabre : no idea. i make my own
[10:21] <sobersabre> Triffid_Hunter, i want to use module-assistant facility.,
[10:21] <djm62> lsuactiafner: shurely that depends on how specialist your needs are, and how much you know about compilation generally, and that of kernels in particular?
[10:21] <chrissturm> compiling your own kernel is mostly not neccesary
[10:21] <tritium> lsuactiafner, there is little need for building your own ubuntu kernel.  Many of the developers use stock kernels, even.
[10:21] <sobersabre> hmm. i meant tritium
[10:21] <justin> Shachaf: would be easier to diagnose if the other end of the connection wasn't a dumb router... strange problem
[10:21] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : i make my own otherwise my system wont boot.. ie, the more ppl able to make their systems bootable for the odd setup the better
[10:22] <HappyFool> spoosh: what sort of programming do you find interesting? networking? databases? numerics? ... (etc.)
[10:22] <Shachaf> justin: This works under other distributions (even LFS) and Windows.
[10:22] <justin> Shachaf: can you upgrade the kernel to something newer?
[10:22] <tritium> sobersabre, what's your question?
[10:22] <spoosh> Happyfool: I like databases, most of the stuff that I have done with them has been web based. php, asp, etc
[10:22] <Shachaf> justin: I can't use apt-get because I don't have a connection.
[10:23] <Shachaf> justin: What would be the package to download?
[10:23] <spoosh> happyfool: i'd like to start some linux development stuff though
[10:23] <sobersabre> when i have used module-assistant i've tried to install sl-modem driver.
[10:23] <justin> Shachaf: linux-image-2.6.x......
[10:23] <spoosh> full blown applications and now webpages, etc
[10:23] <tritium> Shachaf, waht do you want to install?
[10:23] <sobersabre> and it looks for "linux-image" package. i prepared "kernel-image" with make-kpkf
[10:23] <christos> i just installed openoffice 2 through synaptic how do i get rid of 1.1??
[10:23] <sobersabre> i mean make-kpkg
[10:23] <spoosh> not webpages
[10:24] <sobersabre> christos, no.
[10:24] <sobersabre> Shachaf, what is your problem ?
[10:24] <jon273> Every time i try and get something useful, apt tells me it's unavailable :/
[10:24] <Seveas> christos, you should apt-get remove openoffice.org
[10:24] <Shachaf> sobersabre: I can't get the network to work.
[10:24] <HappyFool> spoosh: fair enough. for starters i'd work through thinkcspy, or diveintopython (or both)
[10:24] <Seveas> and then use debfoster to clean up the bits & oieces it leaves behind
[10:24] <HappyFool> spoosh: hang out on #python
[10:24] <sobersabre> Shachaf, what NIC ?
[10:24] <christos> that won't remove openoffice.org2 right?
[10:24] <deffy> Well thanks a whole lot, I guess I'm gonna try a different distro
[10:24] <Shachaf> sobersabre: I have an eepro100, and I tried both the eepro100 driver and the e100 driver.
[10:25] <tritium> Shachaf, you should get linux-686, or whichever architecture you have, so it pulls in linux-restricted-modules too
[10:25] <spoosh> happyfool: thanks for the advice
[10:25] <HappyFool> spoosh: and read comp.lang.python, e.g., here: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/threads?gvc=2
[10:25] <sobersabre> Shachaf, and what do you get in logs ?
[10:25] <Shachaf> sobersabre: Both DHCP and static IP.
[10:25] <Shachaf> sobersabre: Everything behaves like it's working, but I can't ping the gateway.
[10:25] <sobersabre> Shachaf, what do you get in the logs ?
[10:25] <HappyFool> spoosh: this is usefullish too: http://www.pythonware.com/daily/
[10:25] <HappyFool> spoosh: and of course http://www.python.org
[10:25] <spoosh> i'm about to bookmark those now
[10:25] <christos> that won't remove openoffice.org2 right?
[10:26] <tritium> spoosh, the Python tutorial is a good intro too.
[10:26] <Seveas> christos, no
[10:26] <sobersabre> Shachaf, can you ping your own eth0 ?
[10:26] <Shachaf> sobersabre: Yes.
[10:26] <tritium> Hello mako
[10:26] <sobersabre> Shachaf, can you ping your localhost ?
[10:26] <Shachaf> sobersabre: Yes.
[10:26] <sobersabre> ok.
[10:27] <ilba7r> i am trying to install the new ltmodem.deb but it requires "kernel-image-2.6.10-5-386" any one know where can i find it
[10:27] <Shachaf> sobersabre: though it doesn't appear in the output of "route -n".
[10:27] <spoosh> i have diveintopython installed but i'm not sure where to access it
[10:27] <Seveas> ilba7r, you are installing a debian deb, try to find an ubuntu one
[10:27] <sobersabre> Shachaf, you've fscked up your network settings somehow. don't worry.
[10:27] <ilba7r> sevas it is a ubuntu one
[10:27] <Shachaf> sobersabre: No, it never worked.
[10:27] <tritium> ilba7r, ubuntu kernel images begin with "linux-image-"
[10:27] <ilba7r> let me fetch the proper name for it
[10:27] <Seveas> ilba7r, ubuntu has no kernel-image packages so it cannot be an ubuntu one
[10:27] <Shachaf> sobersabre: I installed Ubuntu yesterday.
[10:27] <sobersabre> can you tell me what is the output line of ethernet card in lspci ?
[10:28] <HappyFool> spoosh: not too sure if there's a menu link; it's in /usr/share/doc/diveintopython/
[10:28] <ilba7r> ubuntu-ltmodem-2.6.10-5-386_8.31a13_i386.deb
[10:28] <spoosh> ok. I can find that
[10:28] <tritium> spoosh, you can get to it from Yelp, gnome's help system
[10:28] <Shachaf> delire: "Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]  (rev 02)"
[10:28] <Shachaf> Oops.
[10:28] <Shachaf> sobersabre: "Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]  (rev 02)"
[10:28] <sobersabre> Shachaf, i see.
[10:28] <tritium> spoosh, click on the little life-preserver icon, and to go Applications->Programming
[10:28] <Seveas> ilba7r, if it requires a kernel-package image it's not an Ubuntu deb. Ubuntu has no kernel-package...
[10:28] <sobersabre> do you use vanilla ubuntu kernel ?
[10:29] <Seveas> and ubuntu debs don't start with ubuntu, but have ubuntu in the version number
[10:29] <spoosh> tritium: thanks i've got it
[10:29] <Shachaf> sobersabre: I use a vanilla kernel, yes.
[10:29] <ilba7r> ok thanx sevas
[10:29] <tritium> ilba7r, ltmodem drivers are in linux-restricted-modules
[10:29] <ilba7r> strange though they put it under ubuntu
[10:29] <sobersabre> now.. can you paste several things into some paste bin ?
[10:29] <Seveas> ilba7r, just install a linux-restricted-modules package from the ubuntu repositories
[10:30] <sobersabre> Shachaf,
[10:30] <Seveas> don't use third party drivers...
[10:30] <sobersabre> i meant you
[10:30] <tritium> ilba7r, "apt-cache search ltmodem" should return a bunch of linux-restricted-modules packages.  YOu want the one that matches your kernel.
[10:30] <Shachaf> sobersabre: Not from the computer with the problem.
[10:30] <Shachaf> sobersabre: It's downstairs.
[10:30] <spoosh> tritium and Happyfool: I'd just like to thank you both for your help. i'm about to do some serious reading. maybe we'll run into each other again sometime
[10:30] <lsuactiafner> ltmodem is nice..
[10:30] <Seveas> ilba7r, if you run on an intel processor: install linux-686 if you have an amd processor: install linux-k7
[10:30] <tritium> spoosh, sure :)  Have a good one!
[10:30] <sobersabre> Shachaf, we need to  know the exact output of:
[10:30] <HappyFool> spoosh: all the best. happy hacking :-)
[10:30] <sobersabre> ifconfig eth0
[10:30] <spoosh> Looks like i'm going to learn some python
[10:30] <sobersabre> and route -n
[10:30] <spoosh> Later
[10:31] <sobersabre> Shachaf,
[10:31] <sobersabre> did you get this ?
[10:31] <ilba7r> sok thanx sevas and tritium
[10:31] <Shachaf> sobersabre: Well, I'll see if I can transfer this on something.
[10:31] <ilba7r> sevas is it the smae for amd 32 and 64
[10:31] <Seveas> ilba7r, no
[10:31] <Seveas> amd64 users should install linux-k8 iirc
[10:31] <sobersabre> Shachaf, can u also bring:
[10:32] <sobersabre> cat /proc/interrupts
[10:32] <sobersabre> ?
[10:32] <sobersabre> ok ?
[10:32] <ilba7r> great was just making sure thanx a lot guys
[10:32] <ilba7r> you were quite helpfull
[10:32] <Seveas> you're welcome
[10:32] <tritium> :)
[10:32] <dabi> any idea where to start? ubuntu wont detect my battery status on my acer laptop
[10:33] <ilba7r> take care all bye for now
[10:33] <tritium> I'm thinking if my hoary CDs have not shipped yet, they're not going to...
[10:33] <invisiblekid> can someone please help me? i can't seem to get my samba server working
[10:33] <sobersabre> i got my hoaries!! :)
[10:33] <tuku> How to add into "start menu" new program so that is appears everybody who uses this computer?
[10:34] <HappyFool> Seveas: think it might be linux-amd64, not -k8: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-amd64&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all
[10:34] <Seveas> tuku, either use smeg (www.realistanew.com) or learn about the freedesktop.org internals...
[10:34] <HappyFool> invisiblekid: what's not working?
[10:34] <invisiblekid> well, my laptop works fine as a client, but when i try sharing folders, nobody else can see me
[10:35] <HappyFool> Seveas: oh, there are amd64-k8 packages too. nevermind.
[10:35] <invisiblekid> but my desktop works fine and i copied the smb.conf almost exactly
[10:35] <tritium> wb, spoosh
[10:35] <gahan> why is hotplug so important when i use gnome? i needed to stop it, then start gdm, and after i login i needed to start hotplug for my mouse to work. otherwise it hanged after showing me desktop
[10:35] <spoosh> I came to look for the #python room
[10:35] <invisiblekid> ive tried reinstalling all samba packs but its the same thing
[10:35] <gahan> it worked fine with kde or xfce, without rticks
[10:35] <gahan> s/rticks/tricks
[10:35] <spoosh> just to see what was going on
[10:35] <tritium> spoosh, /join #python
[10:35] <Seveas> gahan, why on earth eould you want to ditch hotplug..?
[10:36] <cfaun> the live cds don't have ubuntu-calandar on, do they?
[10:36] <HappyFool> invisiblekid: paste your smb.conf up at a pastebin, e..g, http://rafb.net/paste/
[10:36] <tritium> there you go, spoosh :)
[10:36] <invisiblekid> k
[10:36] <phinaliumz> Hi. I'm thinking to switch from Mandriva to Ubuntu. I have two hard disk, hdb is mounted as /, hda is mounted as home, there I got all my personal files. Is it possible to use hda as a home mount point in Ubuntu too without formatting it?
[10:36] <Shachaf> sobersabre: I can't believe this.
[10:36] <spoosh> there we go thank you. i'm still pretty new to irc. i read the docs a long time ago but have forgot most of it because i haven't used it in a while
[10:36] <Seveas> HappyFool, there's a nice ubuntu-themed pastebin mentioned in the topic :)
[10:36] <Shachaf> sobersabre: I'm going to have to use a floppy.
[10:36] <tritium> phinaliumz, yep :)
[10:37] <gahan> Seveas: i havent used it before i installed gnome, and now i got problems with it
[10:37] <Seveas> phinaliumz, yes
[10:37] <HappyFool> Seveas: i'm lazy. that ones in my firefox toolbar thingy ;)
[10:37] <phinaliumz> thank you :)
[10:37] <djm62> phinaliumz: yes
[10:37] <Seveas> HappyFool, lol :)
[10:37] <justin> invisiblekid: the default samba config has everything you need for sharing files, minus the actual share.. if you changed anything you probably broke it
[10:37] <gahan> Seveas: i dont really know how to fix that thing, and why do i need to stop it;start gdm;start it again
[10:37] <gahan> ``hangs'' here means: no response from keyboard and mouse
[10:38] <HappyFool> invisiblekid: please post the url of the final page when you're done ;)
[10:39] <dabi> any idea where to start? ubuntu wont detect my battery status on my acer laptop
[10:39] <justin> dabi: what does "wont detect" mean?
[10:39] <invisiblekid> http://rafb.net/paste/results/3zmHbi55.html
[10:41] <invisiblekid> HappyFool, maybe 'security = share' instead of 'user'?
[10:41] <justin> invisiblekid: what does "nobody else can see me" mean?
[10:41] <madsen> Are there any Ubuntu repos for e17?
[10:42] <Seveas> madsen, e17 isn't even final...
[10:42] <invisiblekid> justin, when the go to network servers, my laptop doesnt show up next to the other servers, but it is in the same workgroup
[10:43] <madsen> Seveas: I know, that's why I'm asking if there are any separate repos for it and not if it's in the standard repos.
[10:43] <justin> invisiblekid: then that has nothing to do with the security setting
[10:43] <xiaogil> How to use to convert an html file from BIG5 to UTF-8? (i don't understand how to do it with recode, the --help and man are not clear to me)
[10:43] <invisiblekid> k
[10:43] <Seveas> maddler, look at apt-get.org
[10:43] <justin> invisiblekid: is your samba server actually running?
[10:43] <Razor-X> hmmm, anyone have a .wine/config they can cat to pastebin?
[10:43] <invisiblekid> yeap, ive restarted it many times =]
[10:43] <madsen> I can't install from http://soulmachine.net/debian, 'cause it bitches about libc6 being 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 and not 2.3.2.ds1-21. :-(
[10:44] <HappyFool> invisiblekid: security = user requires a smbpasswd file. but since you're allowing anonymous access it shouldn't matter
[10:44] <Razor-X> madsen: try reemoving backports from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:44] <HappyFool> invisiblekid: i always thought 'guest ok = yes' went in share definitions, not in [global]
[10:44] <tritium> backports, ew...
[10:44] <Rickie> How do i give myself Root access to a folder?
[10:44] <chrissturm> madsen: that deb isnt for ubuntu it seems
[10:45] <Razor-X> Rickie: sudo -s
[10:45] <madsen> Razor-X: I don't have any backports in my sources.list.
[10:45] <Razor-X> errr!
[10:45] <justin> invisiblekid: does smbclient -L localhost list your Downloaded share?
[10:45] <HappyFool> invisiblekid: have you tried 'smbclient -L localhost' on the machine with the problem?
[10:45] <HappyFool> hrm :P
[10:45] <madsen> chrissturm: I know, but see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216
[10:45] <Razor-X> nevermind
[10:45] <madsen> Razor-X: ?
[10:45] <Razor-X> madsen: hmmm... not sure then
[10:45] <Razor-X> so, no-one here uses WINE?
[10:45] <madsen> Razor-X: Ok, but thanks. :)
[10:46] <djm62> nope
[10:46] <Tm_T> hullo
[10:46] <pfp> Razor-X: i do, but there's no ~/.wine/config
[10:46] <tritium> Razor-X, only at dinner
[10:46] <pfp> :)
[10:46] <^thehatsrule^> lol
[10:46] <Razor-X> pfp: ok then ;)
[10:46] <Rydekull> hmm, anyone able to appraise how much I can sell a SGI Onyx for? http://ateliermusee.web.infoseek.co.jp/html/05-computer/photo/sgi/onyx-01.jpg
[10:46] <^thehatsrule^> whats the prob Razor-X?
[10:46] <Rickie> "Error while moving items to "/usr/local/firefox".", "You do not have permissions to write to this folder.", i get that when i try to copy and paste some plugins to my Firefox Plugins Dir, even with Sudo -s :s
[10:47] <Shachaf> sobersabre: How am I supposed to get the output?
[10:48] <errr> Rickie: why do you add the -s? sudo cp foo /bar should work
[10:48] <tuku> i have downloaded a .deb file. How in install it? apt-get install ./xxxx.deb do not do it
[10:48] <tritium> errr, to get a shell
[10:48] <tritium> tuku, dpkg -i <filename>
[10:48] <HappyFool> invisiblekid: are both your machines running ubuntu? do they have different hostnames? (i.e., they're not both 'ubuntu' ?)
[10:48] <tritium> tuku, don't forget to use sudo ;)
[10:49] <errr> tritium: I am just used to typing sudo from a shell
[10:49] <^thehatsrule^> Razor-X: just use the default one its easier
[10:49] <tritium> errr, yeah, but if you get tired of prepending each command with "sudo", you can use sudo -s, or sudo -i
[10:49] <Rickie> errr: "sudo cp /usr/local/firefox/plugins /bar" right?, doesn't work :/
[10:49] <^thehatsrule^> or sudo su
[10:50] <tuku> thank's alot for all of you. You been realy helpfull
[10:50] <errr> Rickie: /bar is not a real place....
[10:50] <HappyFool> cp is <src> <dst>
[10:50] <^thehatsrule^> Rickie, if thats a folder, you need cp -r
[10:50] <HappyFool> you possibly want 'cp somefile /usr/local/firefox/plugins'
[10:51] <mako> kassetra: hey
[10:51] <mako> kassetra: ?
[10:51] <HappyFool> isn't there somewhere in .mozilla you can put plugins ?
[10:51] <Rickie> Oo, thanks :)
[10:51] <tritium> HappyFool, yeah, ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:52] <tony__> Hello, how can I change the GDM login screen?
[10:52] <madsen> Hmm, how do I force an apt-get install to not care about dependencies?
[10:52] <kvidell> tony__: Alt+F2 -> gdmconfig
[10:52] <kvidell> er.. gksudo gdmconfig
[10:52] <madsen> tony__: System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup
[10:52] <kvidell> sorry
[10:52] <kvidell> Oh! I didn't know it hid there, sorry :)
[10:53] <madsen> kvidell: hehe
[10:53] <tony__> Thanx...
[10:53] <madsen> Ok, back to me... Forcing install in spite of "missing" deps.
[10:54] <madsen> How? --^
[10:54] <kvidell> --force-yes
[10:54] <kvidell>               Force yes; This is a dangerous option that will cause apt to continue without prompting if it is doing something potentially harmful. It should not be used except in very special situations.  Configuration Item: APT::Get::force-yes.
[10:54] <justin> kvidell: close, but not quite
[10:55] <HappyFool> madsen: 'man apt-get' reveals '--ignore-missing', though i imagine that is likely to cause tears in the long run
[10:55] <kvidell> no?
[10:55] <kvidell> I'm not doing good today :-P
[10:56] <bobbyd> hi
[10:56] <madsen> HappyFool: Nah, it's just bitching about libc6 being labeled 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 and not 2.3.2.ds1-21... I don't think it'll be that bad.
[10:56] <bobbyd> how do I give options to a module that's automatically loaded at startup?
[10:56] <chrissturm> and its only libc
[10:56] <Seveas> 'only' libc....
[10:56] <madsen> chrissturm: hehe
[10:56] <chrissturm> hehe
[10:57] <madsen> HappyFool: Hmm, --ignore-missing doesn't cut it. apt-get still bitches.
[10:57] <Razor-X> and now, I need Windows for nothing!!! MUAHAHAHAHA
[10:57] <chrissturm> but since you arent upgrading anything, and just installing e17, the worst that can happen is e17 not working
[10:57] <madsen> Razor-X: Nice! :)
[10:57] <madsen> chrissturm: Exactly. :)
[10:58] <HappyFool> madsen: read 'man apt-get' --- it mentions combining that with what kvidell mentioned.
[10:58] <madsen> chrissturm: and since it doesn't work already, things can only get better. :)
[10:58] <Mez> is it me or is the wiki incredibly slow today ?
[10:58] <chrissturm> madsen: you could get the source deb, change the dependeny and build it
[10:58] <Seveas> it's slow
[10:58] <madsen> chrissturm: Yeah, that would be the "right" way. But this is more fun. :)
[10:58] <Mez> WAAAAAAAY too slow :d
[10:59] <kvidell> lol
[10:59] <chrissturm> madsen: the other way you could even learn something useful
[10:59] <madsen> HappyFool: Nope, no luck still...
[10:59] <pepsi> when did world war 2 end?
[10:59] <chrissturm> madsen: you could maybe even build up to date e17 packs
[10:59] <madsen> chrissturm: Eww! Learn!?! :-p
[10:59] <HappyFool> madsen: the stars are not in your favour
[10:59] <chrissturm> those you are using are 3 months old
[10:59] <madsen> chrissturm: That would be nice... :)
[11:00] <madsen> chrissturm: But then again, I have no clue as to how to build a package and much less the proper tools installed. :-/
[11:00] <madsen> HappyFool: :(
[11:00] <HappyFool> madsen: i guess you're not ignoring 'missing' packages -- libc isn't missing, it's got the wrong version
[11:00] <madsen> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:00] <madsen>   eutils: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[11:01] <madsen> HappyFool: --^
[11:01] <HappyFool> i wonder if rpm's --ignore-deps is more permissive?
[11:01] <chrissturm> madsen: it could be that you just need to rebuild eutils
[11:01] <madsen> HappyFool: It is... It actually ignores...
[11:02] <madsen> chrissturm: Yeah, it appears so... :)
[11:02] <chrissturm> you can do that in no time
[11:02] <madsen> chrissturm: ... when I've installed gcc and stuff...
[11:02] <chrissturm> apt-get install build-essentials
[11:03] <madsen> chrissturm: and to install, I need to dl it on a 256k connection. :-/
[11:03] <thechitowncubs> build-essential
[11:03] <chrissturm> right, i always get that one wrong
[11:03] <HappyFool> madsen: i've never used the 'equivs' package, but it's description is 'Circumvent Debian package dependencies'
[11:03] <HappyFool> build-essential is on the CD
[11:03] <clumsy> Hi Leute, jemand da, der mir in Sachen RHYTHMBOX + gstream-Problem helfen kann?
[11:03] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> anyone tried the new ati drivers with the gui installer ?
[11:04] <Seveas> clumsy, hier spricht mann englisch
[11:04] <chrissturm> clumsy: /join #ubuntu-de
[11:04] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> supports the 2.6.11 kernel
[11:04] <clumsy> ups
[11:04] <clumsy> sry
[11:04] <Seveas> fuer deutschsprachige hilfe: #ubuntu-de
[11:04] <madsen> chrissturm: But there's no source-.deb for eutils afaik. :-/
[11:04] <chombee> Okay - here is a tough problem. My friend is trying to install Ubuntu but has only a non-bootable USB cdrom. Does anyone know of anything that will let us run the cdrom install, some sort of boot disk or something?
[11:04] <madsen> HappyFool: lol!
[11:04] <chombee>  Perhaps we need a boot disk for a linux distro that will let us then mount the usb device and then boot it
[11:04] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> and doesn't need source if you have the kernel headers installed
[11:04] <madsen> HappyFool: I installed from a Warty CD and upgraded... (Loooong wait there.)
[11:05] <madsen> chombee: You mean like a BIOS?
[11:05] <HappyFool> madsen: hey, i'm on 56kb :P took me 40 hours (or more?) to download hoary
[11:05] <djm62> chombee: I don't think you can do that, exactly
[11:05] <madsen> HappyFool: :-/
[11:05] <chombee> madsen - I just mean some sort of boot disk or distro on disk that will allow me to run the Ubuntu install from the USB cdrom
[11:05] <madsen> chrissturm: Ok, build-essential installed...
[11:05] <aquarius> How do I know which linux-image package to install on my machine?
[11:06] <chombee> djm62 - do you think I can install Debian using floppy disk and then upgrade it to Ubuntu?
[11:06] <djm62> would this be a job for debian install floppies, then edit sources.list, and dist-upgrade?
[11:06] <Seveas> aquarius, which processor do you have?
[11:06] <aquarius> seveas: not sure; I think it's a Pentium M. How do I find out?
[11:06] <chombee> djm62 - do you know how difficult it is to install Debian from floppies?
[11:07] <kvidell> lol
[11:07] <A[D] minS> what is package= mplayer-gui ?
[11:07] <Seveas> aquarius, you need to install linux-686 (that'll drag in a correct image and restricted modules package)
[11:07] <djm62> chombee: I did it a long time ago...you only install debian once per machine
[11:07] <zth_> hey.. i wanna connect my guitar to my computer and record it, i wanna use the line-in. so i've got a transformator or what to call 'em, and i've plugged it into line-in from the output of my VAMP (effect box) but i get nothing trying to record or just play, checked the volume  on the AMP and on the gnome mixer but still nothing
[11:07] <aquarius> Seveas, ah, /proc/cpuinfo says Pentium M. linux-686 doesn't mention the Pentium M; is that OK?