[07:54] <facugaich> that's a funny name graft, but I'll check it out, thank you
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> okay I'm corssing my fingers and hoping that ubuntu understands vista and that to add it to the boot menu -- and doesn't wipe out the MBR
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> yeah I remember the days when tv was like etch-a-sketch
[07:55] <cih997> Is anyone from Scotland??
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> and that cool 'bubble' effect you see now a days in photoshoots, was how you actually watched the 'tube'.
[07:55] <Newbuntu> apache, give me a cookie... I figured it out all by myself, you can switch konqueror to change browser identification.. in this case from default to explorer under xp and   BAM
[07:56] <Newbuntu> i'll never go back to firefox
[07:56] <serax> hi
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> lol @ installing bicyclerepair
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> firefox has too many cool  features I use - to ever use anything else.
[07:57] <hussam> Hi, I want to install dapper using a daily CD. which most recent daily CD works?
[07:57] <serax> i need something like winamp for ubuntu plz help...
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> serax: xmms
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> serax: if you want something like itunes, banshee
[07:58] <serax> hmmm i will test them both
[07:58] <Gau> someone should tell serax about mp3 on ubuntu as well, I'd wager.
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> Gau: he'll be back
[07:59] <teletubbie> hi, I use nvsound kernel module. it uses OSS. how do I setup software mixing?
[07:59] <teletubbie> does this onboard sound card support hardware mixing?
[07:59] <jmoncayo> could somebody help me why do i get this http://pastebin.com/669729
[07:59] <jmoncayo> please some help
[07:59] <dereks> serax: i also like muine
[07:59] <teletubbie> does OOS even support mixing?
[08:00] <dereks> serax: and rhythmbox is also a popular product
[08:00] <cens0red> how does ubuntu linux like it when you upgrade CPU, mainboard, and RAM?
[08:00] <dereks> cens0red: it likes it :)
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> cens0red: like a fat kid loves cake
[08:00] <cens0red> dereks serious? Won't freak out and fritz on me?
[08:00] <dereks> cens0red: you might have a problem with the mobo upgrade
[08:01] <teletubbie> cens0red, it will work fine
[08:01] <dereks> but i think cpu and ram should be fine
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> cens0red: if you think upgrade means Intel P4 > AMD 64 then you MIGHT have a problem.
[08:01] <dereks> cens0red: i would reccomend doing a whole new install
[08:01] <jmoncayo> wvelez, do you know why do i get this with apt http://pastebin.com/669729
[08:01] <cens0red> dereks so it won't like it
[08:02] <cens0red> ?
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> cens0red: for that upgrade, no problems. If you are changing the motherboard, then you will probably run into some problems (like sound, video, etc.)
[08:02] <dereks> cens0red: you are basically replacing the key components, and i don't think it will like the mobo upgrade
[08:02] <facugaich> jmoncayo, maybe you should re-download the repos, but I don't know
[08:02] <teletubbie> cens0red, I hope you have a separated partition for /home
[08:02] <teletubbie> ;)
[08:02] <jmoncayo> facugaich, yea i could but i wonder why i get that if everything was working just fine
[08:02] <cens0red> dereks new mainboard, cpu and RAM.
[08:03] <cens0red> and p/supply for that matter.
[08:03] <dereks> cens0red: right, i don't think it will like the new motherboard
[08:03] <dereks> the rest should be fine
[08:03] <dereks> (its all speculation, in an ideal world, it will work right)
[08:03] <facugaich> jmoncayo, sometimes that happens to me, but what I do is backup them
[08:03] <cens0red> dereks so it should run ... just won't know where the old vid/sound cards have gone.
[08:03] <facugaich> !repos
[08:03] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:04] <jesygem> hola!
[08:04] <serax> what kind of file system must i download when i want to install a programm? -> tar.gz or tar.bz2
[08:04] <jmoncayo> facugaich, but if i donwload the repos i think it would be much better than having the old ones
[08:04] <dereks> cens0red: SHOULD is the keyword, but if you have things like hda is now hdb, etc you might run into problems
[08:04] <jmoncayo> hola
[08:04] <jmoncayo> jesygem, hola
[08:04] <facugaich> both are fine serax, they are different compression types
[08:04] <teletubbie> hi, I use nvsound kernel module. it uses OSS. how do I setup software mixing?
[08:04] <cens0red> dereks cheers.
[08:05] <jesygem> hola, jeje soy nuevo por estos lares xD
[08:05] <isa> ola
[08:05] <facugaich> !es
[08:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:05] <erUSUL> jesygem: esto es uncanal en ingles para castellano vete a #ubuntu-es
[08:06] <erUSUL> isa: esto es un canal en ingles para castellano vete a #ubuntu-es
[08:06] <serax> thx facugaich
[08:06] <jmoncayo> hehe
[08:06] <jmoncayo> !es
[08:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:06] <jesygem> sorry i don't know that this channel don't allow speak spanish
[08:06] <AleXC_> Hey, I can see my Mac in Network Servers - but when I double click on it, it just goes to an empty directory
[08:06] <AleXC_> Why is this?
[08:07] <jmoncayo> AleXC_, in what network server do you find it?
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> do you have any shares defined in your mac?
[08:07] <jesygem> goodbye jmoncayo, i'm going to the spanish channel
[08:08] <AleXC_> jmoncayo: in Network -> Windows Network -> workgroup -> SCOTTS-MAC
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> got Windows vista dual booting with ubuntu -- life is good again :)
[08:08] <blindx> Can anyone help me with an install of QEMU ? I'm following the how-to but seem to have hit a snag along the way..
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> see you ubuntizens tomarrah :D
[08:08] <serax> msg ubotu register
[08:08] <teletubbie> some one try to dl ffox 1.5 plz
[08:08] <teletubbie> it says xml error!
[08:09] <blindx> http://pastebin.com/669746 -- My qemu problem
[08:09] <jmoncayo> AleXC_, thats maybe sometime you connected to that machine or from that machine
[08:09] <AleXC_> jmoncayo: nope, Mac has never connected to this pc
[08:10] <jmoncayo> kinda wierd
[08:10] <AleXC_> oh well, guess i'll just have to burn it on cd. why can't linux be easy to use ><
[08:10] <MisterN> hi
[08:10] <teletubbie> some one try to dl ffox 1.5 plz
[08:10] <teletubbie> it says xml error!
[08:10] <teletubbie> what od I install to get X development files?
[08:11] <zipper> In dapper, i'm desperately trying to get my tv-out through s-video to work. Tried reading a couple of guides and using nvtv, but whatever i do, i just cant seem to get a signal to my tv. Anyone who can give me a hint, or who knows a good guide for setting up tv-out?
[08:11] <userone> hello all...I have a problem with 'viewing' files. When I open a terminal and type 'ls -l' I can see all the files I expect to see. However, when I open a GUI file browser, I can no longer see my text files! Anyone have any ideas?
[08:11] <facugaich> zipper, join ubuntu+1 for dapper chat
[08:11] <blindx> userone: ctrl+h
[08:11] <serax> someone knows something like a tutorial for ubuntu?
[08:11] <sfar> i want to resize an image.. is it any program installed wich can do that? (except GIMP)
[08:12] <serax> or a faq
[08:12] <XamDM> sfar, gimp
[08:12] <blindx> sfar: whats wrong with gimp?
[08:12] <zipper> facugaich, well, it's more an "tv-out" topic than "dapper" really
[08:12] <zipper> but ok, i'll try
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> sfar: imagemagick can do that
[08:12] <serax> like how do i install a programm :)
[08:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell serax about synaptic
[08:12] <userone> blindx: I tried that first...show hidden files...but no luck! Thats why I came here! :-)
[08:12] <_jason> serax: check out help.ubuntu.com
[08:12] <serax> kk thx
[08:13] <facugaich> serax, also wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <cyphase> :O
[08:13] <cyphase> Apple released Bonjour for windows
[08:13] <madrabbit> can anyone tell me where the meta file for bittorrent is
[08:14] <serax> k tanks!
[08:14] <ompaul> madrabbit, for what part of ubuntu?
[08:14] <madrabbit> i dont know when i try to connect thats what it wants
[08:15] <blindx> userone: have you just.. refreshed?
[08:15] <harfooz> serax, once you get imagemagick installed, try this on a COPY!! of your image: mogrify -resize 40% filename
[08:15] <sesstreets> If I install ubuntu server edition...do I have gnome installed?
[08:16] <sesstreets> Or do I get the command line?
[08:16] <userone> blindx: I can open the file in 'text editor' but I when I try to 'rm' it in the terminal ubuntu says 'no such file'. Strange?
[08:16] <blindx> very
[08:16] <LeaChim> Is there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?
[08:16] <sesstreets> anybody?
[08:16] <facugaich> madrabbit, bittorrent isn't like Kazaa or another p2p client, it works in a different way
[08:16] <sesstreets> A special way
[08:16] <sesstreets> like this
[08:17] <madrabbit> please do tell
[08:17] <redguy> sesstreets: 1. there is no such thing as "Ubuntu server edition"
[08:17] <sesstreets> yes there is
[08:17] <facugaich> madrabbit, http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/
[08:17] <sesstreets> http://sesstreets.com/files/readings/ebooks/The_BitTorrent_Bible.pdf
[08:17] <redguy> sesstreets: no, there is not
[08:17] <madrabbit> thanks
[08:17] <userone> blindx: the permissions for the files are -rw-r--r--
[08:17] <sesstreets> yes there is
[08:17] <redguy> sesstreets: maybe you meant a server *install* ?
[08:17] <B0FH> !glxgears
[08:17] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[08:18] <blindx> userone: what's the name of the file?
[08:18] <j0hannes> fyrestrtr: hello again
[08:18] <redguy> sesstreets: if yes, then you don't have gnome and Xorg installed. What would you use a GUI on a server after all?
[08:18] <ompaul> madrabbit, ,  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20060419/  in there you will find several torrent files you save and open them and all of a sudden you have downloads going on
[08:19] <sesstreets> For a home server+a regular server in one
[08:19] <userone> blindx: time_management
[08:19] <sesstreets> im not THAT good at linux yet
[08:19] <sesstreets> http://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/ubuntu-server/
[08:19] <jbaloul> anyone know of a sata / esata pci card that works out of the box (i am looking for a 3.gb version)
[08:19] <nicegoing> hello
[08:19] <sesstreets> newegg.com
[08:19] <blindx> userone: I'm stumped.
[08:20] <sesstreets> reguy I dont know...looks like it exists
[08:20] <nicegoing> anyone knows howto know what servers are currently running ?
[08:20] <rotagivan> i got an xp/ubuntu dual boot and don't have anything important in ubuntu saved, i want to install 5.10 over the older ubuntu, should i have any problems?
[08:20] <jbaloul> sesstreets do you know of a specific model?
[08:20] <sesstreets> Maybe
[08:20] <sesstreets> ALthough
[08:20] <sesstreets> I trust that basically any adaptec will work out of the box
[08:21] <userone> blindx: thanks for trying anyway...I have never seen this before either!
[08:21] <jbaloul> hmm interesting
[08:21] <jbaloul> ok will take that in consideration
[08:21] <jbaloul> thanks
[08:22] <redguy> sesstreets: well, look here http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/
[08:22] <redguy> sesstreets: no server edition in here
[08:22] <indyk> hello all
[08:22] <userone> can anyone else help with strangely behaving files?
[08:22] <g0dch1ld> Hi - is dapper ready then? :D
[08:22] <LeaChim> Is there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?
[08:22] <redguy> !dapper
[08:22] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:22] <Stormx2> dapper isn't ready.
[08:22] <sesstreets> The only diff is that the server ed i pointed to you has all the stuff ON the cd
[08:22] <g0dch1ld> thanks. :)
[08:23] <sesstreets> Like its a cd repository of apache mysql and php
[08:23] <Stormx2> I wish they'd changed that horrible wallpaper >_<
[08:23] <Stormx2> I should upload the wallpapers i made to gnome-look now actually
[08:23] <redguy> sesstreets: well, it is not official I suppose
[08:23] <redguy> !tell sesstreets about nicktab
[08:23] <sfar> blindx: well, gimp is a bit overkill if i only want to resize an image
[08:24] <Mique88> ehm
[08:24] <Mique88> hi
[08:24] <blindx> Well it loads fast, and gets the job done, sfar.
[08:24] <blindx> So...
[08:24] <sesstreets> Gimp is almost on par with photoshop
[08:24] <Mique88> is there someone who speak italian?
[08:25] <blindx> I took Italian in high school.
[08:25] <sesstreets> I know it
[08:25] <sesstreets> Kinda well
[08:25] <blindx> gimp is not on par with photoshopppppppp
[08:25] <Mique88> si?
[08:25] <HedgeMage> Mique88: I think it's Bluekuja's native language
[08:25] <nicegoing> anyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box
[08:25] <sesstreets> si
[08:25] <sesstreets> Mi parlo italian un piscioto
[08:25] <Mique88>  la prima volta che mi connetto...
[08:26] <sesstreets> que?
[08:26] <Toba> nicegoing: what servers are you talking about?
[08:26] <sfar> blindx: hehe, i dont think its THAT fast.. and actually its kinda bloated if you only need to resize an image.. its like installing OpenOffice package just to edit sources.list ;)
[08:26] <blindx> piscioto. i lose.
[08:26] <Toba> sshd and apache?
[08:26] <Toba> that sort?
[08:26] <Bluekuja> ciao mique
[08:26] <userone> ok...another question...is firestarter a good firewall and easy to set up?
[08:26] <g0dch1ld> hi - anyone here tried connecting your Ubuntu box to a projector?
[08:26] <redguy> sesstreets: hmm, it sees thet the server edition is official. Sorry didn't know about that
[08:26] <Toba> g0dch1ld: no but if it's VGA it should be fine I would think
[08:26] <Mique88> it's the first time that i'am connect here...
[08:26] <sesstreets> :P
[08:26] <_jason> !firewall
[08:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[08:26] <sesstreets> I did
[08:26] <Bluekuja> mique88 vieni nel canale italiano
[08:26] <Bluekuja> #ubuntu-it
[08:27] <Mique88> grazie
[08:27] <Bluekuja> ;)
[08:27] <sesstreets> A projector showing a widescreen desktop of ubuntu owns
[08:27] <AleXC_> Hey,
[08:27] <sesstreets> It looked bada$$
[08:27] <nicegoing> userone: firestarter is the easiest firewall.. go for it, it is so reliable, actualy it is just a GUI for iptables
[08:27] <Mique88> mi hai salvato chiunque tu siaa
[08:27] <LeaChim> Is there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?
[08:27] <AleXC_> Will someone please help me network to my Mac, I have 14GB to transfer to it and I can't do that with DVD's
[08:27] <sesstreets> iptables is the hawtness
[08:27] <Bluekuja> haha
[08:27] <Toba> Mique88: #ubuntu-it please :P
[08:27] <sesstreets> alexc ?
[08:28] <AleXC_> sesstreets: Hum, what?
[08:28] <sesstreets> Guys you shuold be able to install mambo right?
[08:28] <Mique88> ehmmm.... scusa bluekuja
[08:28] <Toba> AleXC_: are you trying to transfer files to/from ubuntu?
[08:28] <sesstreets> And still have a mac connect to it?
[08:28] <g0dch1ld> Toba: - hmm...yeah, i can get it to show the boot process and shell- when it comes to X, i've yet to figure out how to write the xorg.conf to setup two screens...and I'll be dang'd if i can figure out the vertical refresh rate and the horiz sync-
[08:28] <Bluekuja> fai cos /join #ubuntu-it
[08:28] <nicegoing> anyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box
[08:28] <blindx> alexc: why not? that's only 2 DVDs :P
[08:28] <Toba> g0dch1ld: yeah, xorg and dual screens can be hard
[08:28] <Mique88> mad ti sposo
[08:28] <redguy> !server
[08:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[08:28] <sesstreets> Cause if u want to go from ubuntu to mac all you do is install apache and drag all the stuff into that directory
[08:28] <Toba> I did it last week
[08:28] <userone> ubotu: nicegoing: I have to connect to a Windows network...the IT guy is a bit of a git and hates Linux. He has threatened to try and hack my machine. Is firestarter what I need or is native Ubuntu good enough?
[08:28] <Mique88> eheh
[08:28] <AleXC_> Toba: From ubuntu to Mac
[08:28] <ubotu> that's too long, userone
[08:28] <Toba> but it took a lot of pain
[08:28] <sesstreets> If you want to go from mac to ubuntu
[08:28] <sesstreets> same thing buy use mac apache
[08:28] <AleXC_> blindx: no, dvd's i've got are 4.7 GB
[08:28] <sesstreets> Its the simplest way
[08:28] <sesstreets> AlexC_seriously
[08:28] <blindx> oh. i was thinking DL DVDs :P
[08:28] <nicegoing> anyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box
[08:28] <sesstreets> Use apache to do it
[08:29] <Toba> you could use scp
[08:29] <Toba> if you care a lot about security
[08:29] <blindx> userone: ubotu is a bot :P
[08:29] <Toba> ooh idea
[08:29] <redguy> ubotu: server is also for Ubuntu Server support join #ubuntu-server
[08:29] <ubotu> redguy: okay
[08:29] <Toba> AleXC_: pm
[08:29] <redguy> !server
[08:29] <AleXC_> Toba: I don't care about security, I just want to go from Ubuntu to Mac via lan
[08:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html, or for Ubuntu Server support join #ubuntu-server
[08:29] <sesstreets> Use apaceh
[08:29] <sesstreets> apache*
[08:29] <sesstreets> Its a webserver
[08:29] <userone> blindx: thanks! I was wondering about the strange reply!
[08:30] <fgarcia> hola,quien ay'
[08:30] <blindx> haha. he's a smart bot, though :P
[08:30] <david_> hello
[08:30] <sesstreets> You install it via synaptic, login with root, drag all the stuff from whereever it is to /var/www/
[08:30] <madrabbit> sorry some one stoped by
[08:30] <sesstreets> Then Figure out what your local IP is (like <IP_ADDRESS>) and enter taht address in the mac
[08:30] <LeaChim> Is there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?
[08:30] <sesstreets> got that alex?
[08:31] <_jason> userone: ubuntu runs no listening services on a default install, so iptables has no rules setup as default
[08:31] <Nrbelex> Hi, I have a few questions about users - Is the user created during setup the only user with administrative access (the only one able to install programs, etc.)?
[08:31] <madrabbit> i went back and seen the links thanks guys
[08:31] <sesstreets> Nrbelex ubuntu doesnt work like windows
[08:31] <sesstreets> There are (by default)
[08:31] <_jason> Nrbelex: he gets added to the 'admin' group automatically.  After that anyone else you add to the 'admin' group can have the same sudo privileges
[08:31] <sesstreets> two users.
[08:31] <LeaChim> Nrbelex, yes. you can add more admins afterwards if you want
[08:31] <Nrbelex> _jason, thanks
[08:32] <sesstreets> Yeah so technicaly you wouldnt have to login as root
[08:32] <userone> _jason: so that means the IT git shouldn't find a way into the system, or does that mean I need to set up the iptables to protect the system?
[08:32] <Nrbelex> Is it a securty issue if I regularly use this user for basic tasks (web browsing, etc.)?
[08:32] <sesstreets> No
[08:32] <sesstreets> Dont think so
[08:33] <LeaChim> Nrbelex, no
[08:33] <_jason> userone: if he does, file a bug :)
[08:33] <Nrbelex> Thanks again all
[08:33] <LeaChim> Nrbelex, if anything pops up asking you for your password - be careful
[08:33] <sesstreets> Yeah
[08:34] <intelikey> Nrbelex if the user is root.
[08:34] <LeaChim> that's the only way something malicious could break out of the confines of your user to attack the rest of the system
[08:34] <Nrbelex> Ok - thanks a lot
[08:34] <matth-w> _jason, Hey, this is nin. I was wondering about this flash, I'm not recieving sound through it... But I am getting video now
[08:34] <_jason> userone: nmap your system's ip and see if you find anything listening.  You can, if you want, isntall firestarter anyway, it will setup some iptables rules for you.  It doesn't hurt...
[08:34] <djk_> does anyone know of a way to convert chm to pdf or ps ?
[08:34] <Mathman> LeaChim: well, certainly not the only way, but perhaps the most straightforward way
[08:34] <Nrbelex> Is there a graphical way to setup Samba?
[08:35] <_jason> matth-w: install alsa-oss and run firefox as 'aoss firefox'
[08:35] <sesstreets> Nrbelex I do not think so
[08:35] <Mathman> Nrbelex: swat
[08:35] <userone> _jason: thanks...I will file a bug if he manages to get in! :-)
[08:35] <sesstreets> google it
[08:35] <LeaChim> Mathman, accepting there are currently no bugs in any software that would allow it to exploit something to escalate it's priveledges?
[08:35] <LeaChim> :P
[08:36] <_jason> userone: just make sure you update your system regularly and you should be fine
[08:36] <jadaz87> hello everyone i am wondering why after a vmware installation and i run it it runs fine but after i restart and click the shortcut for it it says starting vmware on the active app bar and then it goes away and nothing else happens
[08:36] <Mathman> LeaChim: sure.  I could alias sudo to something or other that grabs the password when you type it.  to give one example.
[08:36] <sesstreets> jadaz67 #vmware
[08:37] <LeaChim> Mathman, how can you do that? we currently only have user access :P
[08:37] <mbishop> How can I change the cursor theme? I unpacked a theme into /usr/share/themes but I don't see it as an option
[08:37] <jadaz87> sesstreets i am on ubuntu
[08:37] <blindx> in gimp: is there anyway to "dock" the windows together, so that when one gets minimized, or gets focus, they all do?
[08:37] <Mathman> LeaChim: so I couldn't mess with a users .bashrc or whatever?
[08:37] <mbishop> blindx, google for gimpshop
[08:37] <sesstreets> oh
[08:37] <sesstreets> jadaz87, then I cant help you sorry
[08:37] <blindx> I did mbishop .. it wouldn't installl..
[08:37] <_jason> blindx: you can drag the stuff into the same pane (somehow)
[08:37] <SSmith> Hey guys, I just updated my kernel from 2.12(Breezy standard) to 2.16.4 and now my network card isn't detected anymore?  I've googled around for a bit and couldn't find a solution
[08:37] <mbishop> blindx, well that's the only way I know of
[08:37] <blindx> _jason: yeah, but my screen isn't big enough for that.
[08:38] <sesstreets> SSmith, how are you talking to us then?
[08:38] <LeaChim> Mathman, but.... i said before to be careful about typing in your password :P - aren't you on about typing in your password? nothing that doesn't require a password
[08:38] <SSmith> I'm back in 2.12
[08:38] <sesstreets> oh
[08:38] <sesstreets> then just stay there
[08:38] <pppoe_dude> !ekiga
[08:38] <ubotu> from memory, ekiga is full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[08:39] <LeaChim> Is there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?
[08:39] <Mathman> LeaChim: no...you said be careful about something that pops up and asks you for your password.  which in my eyes would be different from you yourself doing something like typing sudo, where you'd expect it to ask you.  anyway, whatever.
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> any chance of installing ekiga easily on breezy? last time i had to remove a lot of packages
[08:39] <userone> _jason: thanks..I am off to apt-get firestarter! :-)
[08:39] <sesstreets> good
[08:39] <jadaz87> hello everyone i am wondering why after a vmware installation and i run it it runs fine but after i restart and click the shortcut for it it says starting vmware on the active app bar and then it goes away and nothing else happens
[08:39] <SSmith> Well, I would like to receive the benefits of the 2.16 kernel
[08:39] <sesstreets> Like?
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> jadaz87, try ps -A |grep vmware, and see if there are any already running zombies... kill them
[08:40] <LeaChim> jadaz87, open a terminal and type vmware
[08:40] <LeaChim> jadaz87, and see what error happens
[08:40] <sesstreets> That souds like A game
[08:40] <sesstreets> "see if there are any already running zombies... kill them"
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> :P
[08:40] <sesstreets> with a shotgun
[08:40] <jadaz87> LeaChim vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
[08:40] <jadaz87> for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:
[08:40] <jadaz87> /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[08:40] <intelikey> machetty
[08:40] <Nrbelex> intelikey, thanks
[08:41] <jadaz87> LeaChim i already configured it though
[08:41] <intelikey> Nrbelex np
[08:41] <Mathman> jadaz87: perhaps you just need to load the module then?  doesn't that vmware config script compile a kernel module?
[08:42] <jadaz87> Mathman yes it does how to a load that modules
[08:42] <Mathman> jadaz87: modprobe foo
[08:42] <Mathman> jadaz87: well, run lsmod first and see where you're at
[08:42] <teletubbie> I'm trying to compile scilab here. but got error when it is linking
[08:43] <_jason> teletubbie: you know they have binaries on their site?
[08:43] <scifi> weeerrrhooooo, im now online in ubuntu :D
[08:43] <scifi> and all with NO pci network card
[08:44] <teletubbie> http://pastebin.com/669804
[08:44] <_jason> teletubbie: and it's in the repos too although there was a bug that I don't know whether or not it has been fixed
[08:44] <scifi> neone wanna kno how?
[08:44] <teletubbie> _jason, yea. but those do not use gtk
[08:44] <intelikey> teletubbie why are you compiling scilab  ?
[08:44] <intelikey> !info scilab
[08:44] <teletubbie> I'm compiling scilab-gtk
[08:44] <ubotu> scilab: (Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)), section multiverse/math, is optional. Version: 3.0-12 (breezy), Packaged size: 2395 kB, Installed size: 28956 kB
[08:44] <teletubbie> http://cermics.enpc.fr/~jpc/scilab/site/Scilab-Gtk/Scilab-Gtk/index.htm
[08:44] <jadaz87> mathman ok i did lsmod
[08:45] <scifi> erULUS u here m8?
[08:45] <mindaugas> hi from lithuania :):))
[08:45] <mindaugas> any one
[08:45] <mindaugas> ?
[08:45] <intelikey> well at any rate teletubbie you do have b-e installed,   right ?
[08:45] <teletubbie> what b-e?
[08:45] <intelikey> !b-e
[08:45] <ubotu> b-e is, like, totally, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[08:46] <mindaugas> how to install skype on ununtu ??
[08:46] <Mathman> jadaz87: ok, well, yyou'd be looking for vmware something or othher.
[08:46] <teletubbie> I have huild-essential installed
[08:46] <mindaugas> how to install skype on ubuntu ??
[08:46] <jadaz87> math man Module                  Size  Used by
[08:46] <jadaz87> vmnet                  24356  12
[08:46] <jadaz87> vmmon                 100524  0
[08:46] <Mathman> mindaugas: me, I'd grab the tarball, extract it to ~/apps/.
[08:46] <teletubbie> ok, recompiling
[08:47] <Mathman> jadaz87: you coulda just said yes or something.  =)
[08:47] <Mathman> jadaz87: anyway, dunno what to tell you then.
[08:47] <Mathman> jadaz87: aside from trying to configure it again.
[08:47] <mbishop> How do I installed tor/privoxy? there doesn't seem to be packages  available
[08:47] <intelikey> may i ask who it is that is always rewriting the info in ubotu ?
[08:48] <jadaz87> mathman oh ok
[08:48] <sesstreets> mbishop, you might want to google it?
[08:48] <teletubbie> same error
[08:48] <scifi> if anyone here is using a adsl usb modem/router and cant get online in ubuntu like i have, pls try using a usb to ethernet adaptor, ive tried one and it work ! :D
[08:51] <intelikey> it's   a  shame !     every time some one gets a good help message set in ubotu,  some JERK always changes it.
[08:51] <SSmith> Hey guys, I just updated my kernel from 2.12(Breezy standard) to 2.16.4 and now my network card isn't detected anymore?  I've googled around for a bit and couldn't find a solution
[08:51] <sesstreets> Stay with 2.12
[08:51] <_jason> ubuntu: the ubuntu database website would tell you
[08:51] <_jason> erm never mind
[08:51] <SSmith> Well, I would like to receive the benefits of 2.16
[08:52] <mbishop> SSmith, what network card?
[08:52] <Nrbelex> I just set up Samba according to http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba but I cannot access my Linux box from Windows
[08:52] <SSmith> Realtek RTL8201CL
[08:52] <blindx> Okay, I just install gimpshop.
[08:52] <scifi> cant believe this adaptor works, wont even have to open my pc now and buy a pci card
[08:52] <blindx> I see nothing different.
[08:53] <SSmith> its on an ASrock motherboard
[08:53] <SSmith> integrated
[08:54] <scifi> how do i check the version of my kernel?
[08:54] <Mathman> uname -a
[08:54] <Mathman> dpkg something or other
[08:54] <Mathman> apt-something or other
[08:55] <blindx> Anyone in here use gimpshop?
[08:56] <iceman> only failure in the entire linux operating system is the lack of a complete point and click installer ....
[08:56] <Elazar> I just noticed that the Firefox 1.0.8 update is available. Can anyone recommend whether I should switch to this or keep the copy of <IP_ADDRESS> that I've installed?
[08:57] <iceman> loki software had that covered. if only it would become a standard .... : ( until linux gains the simplicity for home users it still remains the "geeks" operation system .. sadly to say ...
[08:58] <edgardo> espaol
[08:58] <teletubbie> how do I get gmake installed?
[08:58] <edgardo> cual es el canal?
[08:58] <crimsun> teletubbie: install build-essential
[08:58] <edgardo> what's the chanell for hispan people?
[08:58] <SSmith> iceman:  Synaptic is 10 times easier to use than "wizards", if that is what you are referring to by point-and-click
[08:59] <edgardo> what's the chanell for hispan people?
[08:59] <teletubbie> I have it installed
[08:59] <edgardo> :S
[08:59] <_jason> !es
[08:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:59] <ssstormy> teletubbie, from a terminal, run "apt-get install build-essential"
[08:59] <blindx> edgardo, #ubuntu-es
[09:00] <ssstormy> what is this
[09:00] <iceman> SSmith no, synaptic does not cover after market software ... but linux is close ... like the sindows software and a installer ... all linux lacks
[09:00] <_jason> teletubbie: gmake is gnu-make which is just make in ubuntu
[09:00] <ssstormy> there is a #ubuntu-es but no #ubuntu-ja
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> How to find out the total installed size of a package, for instance how much more disk space would be required to add kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop?
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> (With dependencies, that is.)
[09:02] <Nrbelex> Once Automatix is used the update manger can then be used to update installed software, correct?
[09:02] <ssstormy> tonyyarusso, install it and do a df -h?
[09:02] <_jason> tonyyarusso: sudo aptitude -s install package, should tell you
[09:02] <stephen_banks> i'd just add the package to aptitude's download list, then it should have the total install size - "will use xxx mb of disk space"
[09:03] <_jason> !automatix
[09:03] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> _jason: You are correct.  Now how about for finding out total size, regardless of what is already installed locally?
[09:04] <teletubbie> hi
[09:04] <MrPockets> hi
[09:04] <teletubbie> when I do apt-cache search scilab. I don't see it in the list
[09:04] <buzzed> can i ask a skype on ubuntu question?
[09:04] <_jason> tonyyarusso: aptitude show package, but that won't get you deps
[09:04] <teletubbie> but a few minutes ago some said I can install it using apt-get
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> Nrbelex: In other words, it might, if your system works at all after automatix ;)
[09:04] <nyersa> I have a question about ubuntu and newer dell laptops... is it possible to get a 9300 and a 700m to work with sleep mode?
[09:04] <Mathman> buzzed: what makes you think you couldn't?
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Any way to get it with the deps?
[09:05] <_jason> !info scilab
[09:05] <ubotu> scilab: (Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)), section multiverse/math, is optional. Version: 3.0-12 (breezy), Packaged size: 2395 kB, Installed size: 28956 kB
[09:05] <teletubbie> I ahve multiverse enabled
[09:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell teletubbie about multiverse
[09:05] <teletubbie> :\
[09:05] <buzzed> new here... might be more of a skype app question...
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> buzzed: You can certainly try.
[09:05] <_jason> teletubbie: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[09:05] <_jason> !pastebin
[09:05] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:05] <Nrbelex> I thought Automatix was recommended fo new users...
[09:05] <_jason> tonyyarusso: I don't know how offhand, you could write a quick little script :)
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> Nrbelex: Some people recommend it.  They should be ignored, and the stance of people in this channel is that it is unwise.  You could look into !easyubuntu instead.
[09:06] <buzzed> anyways skype is installed and buddies added... but i send messages or see if they are online... any idea how to fix this?
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> _jason: I suppose.  I'll look through the aptitude man some more first, and if nothing might give that a shot.
[09:06] <nyersa> on a default load of ubuntu sleep mode is disabled/does not work on a 9300... is there any easy way to make it work?
[09:07] <Nrbelex> tonyyarusso, Ok, will do, thanks
[09:07] <teletubbie> _jason, http://pastebin.com/669854
[09:07] <Mathman> buzzed: you gotta try again on that one.  I can't really make heads of tails of that.
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> buzzed: I doubt it.  Basically, what I've found is that Skype devs don't care about the Linux build, and it has numerous bugs that are not looking like they'll get fixed soon.  Personally, I plan to switch to Ekiga shortly.
[09:07] <_jason> tonyyarusso: the problem I see is if you do that, then things like X will be included in the size of some of your packages
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> !search
[09:08] <ubotu> from memory, search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename", or you can also do a package search via http://packages.ubuntu.com/<package>
[09:08] <teletubbie> _jason, can u plz do apt-cache search scilab
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> hi
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> sorry for the noob question
[09:08] <_jason> teletubbie: you only have breezy-backports multiverse enabled, you need breezy multiverse.  Want to use synaptic or edit manually to fix this?
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> but i forgot how i search for a document on shell
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> what command i use?
[09:08] <Nrbelex> Ok, so if I want to undo any changes done by Automatix which could be unsafe, is there anything I can do aside from reistalling the OS?
[09:08] <berto-> Hi everyone.  I need to upgrade an AMD64 system from 32-bit to 64-bit ubuntu.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this as painless as possible?
[09:08] <_jason> [Rodrigo: locate, or find
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> _jason,  thanks :)
[09:08] <buzzed> so skype sucks on linux? anyone able to use it?
[09:09] <Mathman> tonyyarusso: skype has always worked pretty much flawlessly for me, aside from the ocassional person being listed as online when they're not.  And this is mac, windows, and linux.
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> _jason: True.  Maybe I can script it to compare packages, and only give size of differences, like size(to add kde to existing gnome), size(to add xubuntu to server install), etc.
[09:09] <nyersa> [Rodrigo: you might want to update your locate database first
[09:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell buzzed about skype
[09:09] <jeff_hann> berto:i would recommend fresh install
[09:09] <scifi> anyone know why a usb to ethernet adaptor works but a direct usb connection to a router doesnt? ^^
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> buzzed: I use it, it's just not ideal.
[09:09] <nyersa> [Rodrigo: run updatedb as sudo or root
[09:09] <_jason> tonyyarusso: sounds like a nice exercize
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> Mathman: How d'ya like the part where you can't have any other sound while in a call?
[09:10] <patrick52222> im having a problem installing unrar heres the problem=http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12562
[09:10] <Mathman> tonyyarusso: never been an issue I don't think.  could be because I run kde and arts I spose?
[09:10] <leagris> can you help with sound issues? any sound plays abnormally slow like 10x time slower as normal
[09:10] <_jason> patrick52222: unrar is in multiverse
[09:10] <_jason> use apt
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> Mathman: Yeah, I think it's an ESD or OSS thing.
[09:11] <patrick52222> _jason: wat does that mean
[09:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell patrick52222 about multiverse
[09:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell patrick52222 about synaptic
[09:12] <_jason> patrick52222: multiverse is a repository and synaptic is an apt front-end to let you isntall things from it
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> buzzed: In other words, a lot of things work, and I have gotten a lot of good use out of Skype.  However, if you find something that doesn't work right, it's not going to get fixed by filing a quick bug report like in other apps.
[09:12] <patrick52222> ok
[09:12] <scifi> does ubuntu have its own equivalent to the windows task manager?
[09:12] <berto-> jeff_hann, ok, thanks
[09:12] <Mathman> scifi: sure.  bash.  =)
[09:12] <jeff_hann> n p
[09:13] <Mathman> scifi: nah, I'm pretty sure gnome has something similar, yeah.
[09:13] <scifi> mathman: whats it called? :P
[09:13] <Mathman> scifi: beats me.  I'd need to hunt around the gnome menus, and I don't have one handy.
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> scifi: Applications > System Tools > System Monitor.
[09:14] <scifi> ty tonyy, was right in front of me :P
[09:14] <leagris> Dapper sound issue. Can you help with sound played very slow on Shuttle SNP25 VT1720/24 audio chip ?
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> leagris: Dapper questions in #ubuntu+1, please.
[09:14] <Mathman> leagris: apt-get update?
[09:14] <userone> hello everyone...how can I delete a full directory? I have tried rm -r and also chmod -r to make sure there are no permission issues
[09:14] <wastrel> ubuntu
[09:14] <leagris> ok tonyyarusso
[09:15] <Mathman> userone: rm -rf /some/directory
[09:15] <leagris> Mathman, installed from flight6dvd dans upgraded to latest flight6 with dist_upgrade
[09:15] <Nrbelex> How do I get rid of Automatix and anything it may have messed up?
[09:16] <Mathman> userone: nautilus would probably work too.
[09:16] <userone> mathman: it says rm: cannot open directory 'business': Permission denied
[09:16] <Mathman> userone: I'd tend to believe it then.
[09:17] <userone> mathman: I already tried chmod -r business
[09:17] <userone> mathman: I believe it...I just wanna change it! :-)
[09:17] <martin_> Delete a full directory: "sudo rm -rf [nameofdirectory]
[09:18] <Mathman> userone: yeah, you could do that.   like he's saying, permissions don't matter really to root.  but you could also just change the permissions so that you'd be allowed to access that directory.
[09:18] <matt__> hey I have a question for anyone
[09:18] <Mathman> userone: meaning chmod as opposed to chown here.
[09:19] <userone> mathman: how can I change the permissions on a top-level directory, and have all the files and directories contained within change aswell?
[09:19] <Mathman> userone: or again, this could probably be done via nautilus, if that's your cup of tea.
[09:19] <matt__> I have a question on installing plugins or codecs if anyone can help me out, I'm new to ubuntu
[09:19] <Mathman> userone: man chown and look for a recursive option?
[09:19] <userone> _martin: sudo rm -rf worked, of course
[09:20] <martin_> Ya
[09:20] <Mathman> userone: find ./foo -exec chmod
[09:20] <lossy> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[09:20] <lossy> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[09:20] <lossy> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[09:20] <lossy> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[09:20] <scifi> am i right in saying anything i choose from the system>administration menu will ask for my password?
[09:20] <pluto> is there any way of installing ubuntu off your hard drive???
[09:20] <Mathman> scifi: maybe
[09:21] <Tidus> lol... klined.
[09:21] <BearPerson> *nod*
[09:21] <Mathman> pluto: sure.
[09:21] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  Are there any good UML tools in Linux?
[09:21] <Seantater> please, someone, ban lossy
[09:21] <Mathman> ficusplanet: umbrello is one.
[09:21] <BearPerson> Seantater, ban?
[09:21] <ficusplanet> Mathman: Cool.  Thanks.
[09:21] <BearPerson> -!- lossy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [K-lined]
[09:21] <WildZeck> pluto, live cdrom of unbuntu
[09:21] <BearPerson> that trumps a ban anytime :)
[09:21] <arrick> Seantater, lossy is a clonebot
[09:21] <Seantater> !clonebot
[09:21] <ubotu> Seantater: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:21] <arrick> someone loosed him and 3 others yesterday
[09:21] <matt__> can someone help me install a plugin for .mp3's?!?
[09:21] <Seantater> what is a clonebot?
[09:22] <pluto> my main prob is that i dont have a black CD
[09:22] <Juhaz> Seantater, not a person, just a program that automatically spams
[09:22] <pluto> nd my RW is broken at the moment
[09:22] <BearPerson> Seantater, basically someone is running a bunch of automated spam programs connecting from various hosts
[09:22] <BearPerson> that one has a global network ban for a while
[09:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell matt__ about mp3
[09:23] <pluto> i have XP installed on one HD nd my second HD is blank
[09:23] <userone> mathman: martin_: thanks for the help...
[09:23] <Seantater> ubotu: clonebot is an automated program that spams IRC channels
[09:23] <ubotu> okay, Seantater
[09:23] <pluto> can i install ubuntu on hd2 then when installed delet windows finally
[09:23] <simonpca> plop
[09:23] <_jason> !forget clonebot
[09:23] <ubotu> _jason: i forgot clonebot
[09:23] <_jason> that's useless
[09:23] <pluto> phantom Cd wont do it
[09:23] <matt__> Jason
[09:24] <pluto> can anyone help?
[09:24] <buzzed> the main flow of ubuntu users, i would guess, is from other distros and window. Anyone coming from OSX?
[09:24] <_jason> Seantater: sorry, it's just that the higher ups prefer that ubotu knows info that is helpful with ubuntu support and odn't like it to get cluttered
[09:24] <_jason> matt__: yes?
[09:25] <pluto> brb
[09:25] <matt__> I read up on the information and I found what I think are what I need to install, but I have no clue how this OS works, i just need help installing them
[09:25] <patrick52> !apache
[09:25] <ubotu> well, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:25] <_jason> matt__: do you know about synaptic?
[09:26] <matt__> i know how to get there and then to the repositories, but no clue what either are or how to use them
[09:26] <_jason> matt__: have you been able to enable the universe repository?
[09:26] <nny> alright, lets see what crappened here.. had to delete my main account, created a secondary, deleted the old account, and tried to relogin, getting multiple gnome errors..
[09:26] <matt__> I just put ubuntu on today
[09:26] <scifi> anyone know if sonys sonicstage software for transferring tracks to sony network walkman/mp3 players has worked on ubuntu?
[09:26] <matt__> no how would I do that?
[09:26] <_jason> matt__: repositories are basically an online storage site for ubuntu installation packages
[09:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell matt__ about universe
[09:27] <Zoohouse> hello everyone
[09:27] <_jason> matt__: once you do that, you need to search for and install the gstreamer0.8-mad package for mp3 support
[09:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell matt__ about synaptic
[09:27] <buzzed> i would guess that sony generally does not support linux...
[09:27] <matt__> the installation, is it about the same as a Windows .exe?
[09:27] <nny> anyone?
[09:27] <Zoohouse> A while back I downloaded a game that was a first person shooter. It was very much like Unreal T.  Anyone know the name of the game?
[09:28] <Seantater> matt__: not even close
[09:28] <scifi> buzzed: they dont, but thought someone may have gotten a workaround
[09:28] <matt__> yeah that was my problem, i found a couple sites but can't install
[09:28] <Seantater> matt__: It close to the same end-result though
[09:28] <Seantater> matt__:what do you want to install
[09:28] <matt__> I was looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/
[09:28] <_jason> matt__: check out your private messages from ubotu
[09:28] <Mathman> Zoohouse: you sure you're not talking about that quake clone?  is it an open source app?
[09:28] <matt__> well for starters I was trying to find something to play a .mp3, i need the plugin
[09:28] <Seantater> matt__: You can install that without needing to go to the website
[09:29] <matt__> yeah I'm readin them ty
[09:29] <Mathman> Zoohouse: or perhaps the tribes clone?  legends I think it is.
[09:29] <Zoohouse> Mathman, i don't think it was a quake clone... I am not sure now.. I think the name was something like nja ... something like thaty
[09:29] <matt__> quick question.. Drapper, thats the one thats comming out early next month right, we're all on breezy?
[09:29] <Mathman> Zoohouse: sorry, doesn't ring a bell
[09:29] <Zoohouse> it had a weird name
[09:30] <_jason> matt__: yeah
[09:30] <_jason> matt__: june 1st is the release date
[09:30] <matt__> how do I do the plugin?
[09:30] <ompaul> matt__, dapper will be called 6.06 breezy stopped being breezy the day it was released in 5.10 which is the version number (year month :-))
[09:31] <matt__> yeah I downloaded some guy's linux podcasts last night and he was explaining that, kinda cool
[09:31] <ompaul> matt__, no its super cool ;-)
[09:32] <scifi> hi ompaul: got my internet working, with a usb to ethernet adaptor!! :D
[09:32] <FlannelKing> ompaul: how did breezy stop being breezy on 5.10?
[09:32] <scifi> didnt even need a network card
[09:32] <beasty> morning all
[09:33] <SSmith> I think I might have figured out what part of the problem I am having is, the Realtek network card i have is listed as experimental when I "make xconfig"
[09:33] <matt__> I'm working on the universal right now
[09:33] <ompaul> FlannelKing, breezy is the development name :-) the release name is the number, due to the way repos are set up it gets confusing
[09:34] <matt__> I want community maintained "Binary" not "Source" correct?
[09:34] <ompaul> FlannelKing, you will hear people talking about woody and sarge and etch in debian it should be 3.0 3.1 and etch as it is still being developed :-)
[09:34] <wastrel> breezy is easier to remember than 5.10
[09:35] <Zoohouse> :(
[09:35] <scifi> i like the idea of using date as version, didnt know that :)
[09:35] <ompaul> scifi, :-)
[09:36] <ompaul> wastrel, well I remember october last year very well :-)
[09:36] <scifi> ompaul: will still need a network switch tho so my 2nd pc can access net via ethernet too
[09:36] <hartz> Dapper = 6.06 ??
[09:36] <simonpca> hartz: oui
[09:36] <ompaul> hartz,  if released in June yes, and it should be
[09:36] <scout> hey i installed slapd (openldap) via the package manager...how do i get it to run at startup?
[09:36] <scifi> even irc works better in ubuntu, i can see whose talking to Me easily!! :)
[09:36] <buzzed> one interesting thing... i have a 256M Muvo usb mp3 player...
[09:37] <FlannelKing> so, they decided not to use a dash afterall?
[09:37] <ompaul> scifi, have you got a pc or laptop?
[09:37] <buzzed> and it shows up as "244.3 MB Removable Volume"
[09:37] <scifi> 2 desktops
[09:37] <ompaul> FlannelKing, well I saw a rumour somewhere of a /
[09:37] <ompaul> scifi, so have you got a network card for the box?
[09:37] <buzzed> but it oly has 126MB of free space...
[09:38] <arrick> ok guys, have a great aftrenoon, Im going fishing
[09:38] <hartz> I just ordered 30 5.10 CDs and when they arrived here I had to pay import tax.  IMPORT TAX!!!  For a FREE PRODUCT!  and what is more, I imported it back to South Africa!  Ubuntu's cradle, and the damn government wants it's pound of flesh!
[09:38] <buzzed> when nothing is on it...
[09:38] <sfar> how do i run a perl script? with "perl filename.pl" ?
[09:38] <scifi> 2nd pc has a network card, This pc that i use doesnt, but the adaptor has solved that problem :)
[09:38] <redguy> sfar: exactly
[09:38] <arrick> hartz, thats why you gotta move local, or have ubuntu pay the shipping and taxes
[09:39] <redguy> sfar: or, you could make the first line of the script to be #!/usr/bin/perl -w
[09:39] <hartz> sfar >  If the perl script contains #!/usr/bin/perl  then you can just run it with ./scriptname
[09:39] <buzzed> so is the file space issue on basically a usb drive related to linux...
[09:39] <scout> hey i installed slapd (openldap) via the package manager...how do i get it to run at startup?
[09:39] <arrick> hartz, write them a letter with a copy of the reciept if it really concerns you
[09:39] <redguy> sfar: chmod +x script.pl and then run it with ./script.pl
[09:39] <arrick> ok later guys
[09:39] <buzzed> oh well , i outta here...
[09:40] <redguy> scout: isn't it started on startup?
[09:40] <sfar> hartz and redguy: will that be true for ALL perl-scripts? Or is there any scripts that's not really runable?
[09:40] <scout> redguy: dunno where to look, very new to ubuntu
[09:40] <scifi> ompaul: actually i get either a cheap network card or cheap modem/router (all in one solution)
[09:40] <scifi> network switch*
[09:40] <hartz> arrick > It is not worth the $5.50 equivalent I had to pay (About R34.50)... It is just a matter of principle.
[09:40] <buzzed> going to get a Sandisk Sansa e140 any thoughts on that is a mp3 player for linux?
[09:40] <FlannelKing> hartz: didyou explain to them that it is indeed free?
[09:41] <FlannelKing> hartz: since, Ive heard about import stuff before, but people just had to take teh time to explain how the software was actually free.
[09:41] <hartz> sfar > If the first line of the script is #!/usr/bin/perl, then your shell will use that as interpreter. Otherwise, use "perl script.pl"
[09:42] <beasty> anyone else has probs using a mx300 mouse ?
[09:42] <hartz> Flannel I tried.  But how do you explain to a post-office worker in a third world country what Linux is?
[09:42] <scifi> am i ok to install java via firefox?
[09:42] <scout> redguy: how do i check if its already set to load on start? for instance in gentoo i had to rc-update...
[09:43] <redguy> scout: well, in ubuntu (and in Debian in general) we have update-rc.d
[09:43] <hartz> FlannelKing> BTW my previous orders (10 CDs or so each) were always free, it is only my last big order that I had to pay import tax for.
[09:43] <ompaul> scifi, best is always a cheap router no depending on the other box to work etc
[09:43] <scout> redguy: cool i'm lookin forward to learning that. thanks i'll play with that now.,
[09:43] <redguy> scout: ls -l /etc/rc`runlevel | cut -f 2 -d" "`.d/ | grep slapd
[09:44] <mcf501> does anyone have troubles with Gdesklets and dapper?
[09:44] <redguy> scout: this might tell you if slapd is started on the current runlevel
[09:44] <hartz> Hmmmmm.... I'm trying to get sound from my rear speakers using "sound-test", but no luck....
[09:44] <scifi> ompaul: so with a network switch main pc has to be on for 2nd pc to access the net, even tho both are plugged into the router via the switch?
[09:44] <scout> ls -l /etc/rc  'runlevel | cut -f 2 -d" "'.d/ | grep slapd
[09:44] <scout> ls: /etc/rc: No such file or directory
[09:44] <scout> ls: runlevel | cut -f 2 -d" ".d/: No such file or directory
[09:45] <Matic`Makovec> hey guys, how do you deal with cpkg packages?
[09:45] <scout> redguy: wait i copied pasted this time
[09:45] <redguy> scout: check the commandline I gave you again
[09:45] <scout> redguy: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 Apr 19 15:24 S19slapd -> ../init.d/slapd
[09:45] <redguy> scout: it's ` not ' and there are less sapces
[09:45] <ompaul> scifi, switch != router
[09:45] <ompaul> scifi, for two boxes simple hub would be useful
[09:46] <redguy> scout: well, S signifies that the service is started
[09:46] <scout> redguy: thats a bit more complex then i'mused to :P
[09:46] <scout> redguy: ok
[09:46] <Matic`Makovec> !tell Matic`Makovec about cpkg
[09:46] <scifi> ompaul: i thought hub/switch are the same, router is different
[09:46] <hartz> Tha ALSA speaker-test only produces sound from front left and front read, none of the other channels produce any sound
[09:46] <Matic`Makovec> ah well
[09:47] <ompaul> scifi, point brain is tired :-)
[09:47] <scifi> i just tried installing java via firefox and it says not available
[09:47] <scifi> ompaul, no worries :)
[09:47] <redguy> scout: there might be an easier way, read update-rc.d manpage for some info
[09:50] <scifi> am i ok to use the self-extracting java files for linux from the java website?
[09:50] <teletubbie> !firefox
[09:50] <teletubbie> !firefox1.5
[09:50] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:50] <scout> redguy: thanks man appreciate the help ;)
[09:51] <scifi> or is there a better way?
[09:51] <mcf501> How and i stop Gdesklets from crashing on start up?
[09:52] <scifi> neone?
[09:53] <mcf501> scifi: yea your fine
[09:53] <Zoohouse> I found the game :D
[09:54] <scifi> is there a way of doing it within ubuntu, i.e synaptic package manager?
[09:55] <Elazar> I'm using acidrip to rip a DVD to an Xvid AVI file and the audio sync is off. Any suggestions on how to get it right?
[09:55] <mcf501> not that i am aware of, there is blackdown java which you can apt-get
[09:56] <blindx> in dos, there's the | more function to make the text stop when it fills up the screen.. how do you do this in linux?
[09:56] <blindx> haha nevermind
[09:56] <blindx> it's just the |more thing
[09:57] <scifi> hmmm whats going on, suddenly the "add applications" entry in applications menu doesnt execute when i click on it :O
[09:58] <hartz> blindx, try less, because less is more, just more.
[09:58] <blindx> hartz, what?
[09:58] <hartz> blindx > command | less
[09:58] <robcasar> ciao
[09:58] <hartz> blindx "less" allows you to go backwards by typing "b"
[09:58] <blindx> I see.
[09:59] <Elazar> blindx: I think you can use the arrow keys with less also, and use Ctl+f and Ctl+b to go one screen forward and backward respectively.
[09:59] <hartz> blindx Some usefull keys:  u and d god up and down HALF a screenfull at a time.  ENTER is down ONE line.  Space is down a screen-full. q = quit
[09:59] <rossinio> hi, this may be a bit of a noob question but is it possible to install ubuntu on a zen micro without damaging the boot table or anything (it can act as a usb disk under windows)
[09:59] <robcasar> anybody use wine with amd64?
[10:00] <slew> is there a shockwave player for linux anywhere?
[10:00] <Polypterus> Hi. Is there any program available that can display detailed information about my hardware, like RAM and CPU etc? Something like Everest Home for Windows.
[10:00] <accumulator> rossinio: no problem
[10:00] <NoUse> !shockwave
[10:00] <ubotu> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[10:00] <Ribs> robcasar: I use Cedega and Crossover... Never been able to get wine to play ball for some reason :/
[10:00] <Cooner750> FINALLY. Is it hard enough to get in here!?
[10:00] <UBUNTUUSER2002> I have a serious problem
[10:00] <UBUNTUUSER2002> I had to boot on the Live CD
[10:00] <hartz> blindx > but the most usefull aspect of less (and more) is SEARCHING!!!  start a less on a file, then type /XXXXX and it wil find the next occurence of XXXX and highlight it.
[10:01] <UBUNTUUSER2002> i installed ubuntu yesturday and installed the  nvidia drivers
[10:01] <blindx> wow, nice.
[10:01] <blindx> thanks hartz
[10:01] <robcasar> i don't know how compile my wine :)
[10:01] <redguy> UBUNTUUSER2002: did you use any guide?
[10:01] <UBUNTUUSER2002> i booted up x today and it says it cant start x because the nvidia drivers dont match kernal
[10:01] <robcasar> i got an stupid error
[10:01] <Ribs> robcasar: I know for a fact that wine does not compile in amd64 yet. Use binary packages.
[10:01] <NoUse> robcasar winehq.com has apt repos
[10:01] <UBUNTUUSER2002> how do i uninstall the drivers from command line??
[10:01] <tyler> Hey how do I make files ending in '~' not appear in my GUI?
[10:01] <eytyxios> hello, is there a program to setup hardware? I have problems with a 6button mice (gm4200)
[10:02] <Ribs> robcasar: But even with binary packages, I couldn't get wine to work... then again, I didn't try too hard.
[10:02] <redguy> robcasar: AFAIK wine does not work on 64 bit platform...
[10:02] <robcasar> for amd64 ? .... are you seure?
[10:02] <hartz> blindx > You can even search backwards in a file Using ?XXXX in stead of /XXXX.  Cheack out the man page - there's a HOST of options and settings you can use!
[10:02] <robcasar> ah
[10:02] <NoUse> robcasar oh sorry, I dont know about AMD64
[10:03] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER That's a good question!  but you could of course just reverse the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file changes
[10:03] <UKMatt> is there a middle click scroll in Ubuntu?
[10:03] <Cooner750> what is the deal with all of the trouble to get in here?
[10:03] <UBUNTUUSER2002> hartz how?
[10:03] <Polypterus> Is there any program available for Linux (using Ubuntu of course) that can display detailed information about my hardware, like RAM and CPU etc?
[10:03] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, can you get into the /etc/X11 directory?
[10:04] <ompaul> Cooner750, there was a bot attack on the network that was to stop bots getting in here and causing disruption
[10:04] <openandfree> Polypterus yes
[10:04] <openandfree> google is your friend
[10:04] <UBUNTUUSER2002> can i do it frm the live cd?
[10:04] <scifi> i get following error when doing sudo apt-get for flash-plugin: sudo: /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin: command not found
[10:04] <Cooner750> I was about to just give up altogether
[10:04] <openandfree> one tip - sensors (find a frontend)
[10:04] <teletubbie> can some one download ffox 1.5 for me?
[10:04] <KurtKraut> I have a Breezy server and when my server is rebooted, the file /etc/resolv.conf is cleared. How can I avoid Breezy from loosing the nameserver condifuration ?
[10:04] <teletubbie> my ffox 1.x got error when trying to dl
[10:04] <jadaz87> teletubbie ?
[10:04] <Polypterus> openandfree: do you know the name of the program?
[10:04] <jadaz87> teletubbie you can use another browser
[10:05] <teletubbie> I don't have another one :\
[10:05] <Cooner750> If I can get my temper back down from trying to join the channel I'll ask my ubuntu-related question
[10:05] <jadaz87> teletubbie you can install it
[10:05] <teletubbie> like what
[10:05] <openandfree> Polypterus no, but i know it exists
[10:05] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, No, you cannot access the hard drive from the Live CD.
[10:05] <Polypterus> openandfree: ok mate , thanks
[10:05] <bohan> hi, i'm looking for an equivalent to the debootstrap script, but couldn't see it at the ubuntu.com site
[10:06] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, boot normally, then press CTRL-ALT-F1 to get a Terminal login session.  Log in, then type sudo -s to become root
[10:06] <jadaz87> can someone tell me what Espresso is? and if i install it on a livecd what it whould do?
[10:06] <openandfree> Polypterus you always have the system monitor, which tells you the amount of cpu and ram usage
[10:06] <UBUNTUUSER2002> ok hart
[10:06] <UBUNTUUSER2002> how do i fix it from there?
[10:07] <KurtKraut> jadaz87, Espresso is a Ubuntu installer that can be runned from a LiveCD. In our next release, called Dapper, you'll be able to install Ubuntu in the computer from the LiveCD.
[10:07] <ksafe> join ubuntu-cn
[10:07] <slew> Polypterus, have you looked at the system monitor?
[10:07] <rukuartic> Heyo everyone...
[10:07] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, Once you are logged in as root, go to /etc/X11 and view what files.  If there is a backup config files (xorg.conf.bak or something similar, restore that to xorg.conf).  Otherwise edit the file and remove the nv or nvidia references, by replacing it"vesa" with
[10:08] <bohan> ok, bye.. channel is too crowded
[10:08] <Polypterus> openandfree: yes mate I know about that one, but I'd like something to display for example what kind of RAM, CPU and HD I have. Very handy when hardware upgrade is necessary.
[10:08] <UBUNTUUSER2002> how do i edit it?
[10:08] <slew> Polypterus, oooh ok. sorry then. =]
[10:08] <Polypterus> I use gkrellm for memory usage and stuff
[10:08] <Polypterus> very nice program
[10:09] <jadaz87> ubuntu makes the news once again :-) http://news.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/19/1547230&from=rss
[10:09] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, , once in the /etc/X11 dir, type "nano xorg.conf"
[10:09] <jadaz87> what is the channel for edgy?
[10:09] <openandfree> Polypterus take a look at your /proc/ directory and see the contents of those text files, they tell you much things about your hardware
[10:09] <ompaul> jadaz87, but there will be nothing there yet i imagine dapper+1
[10:09] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, nano is an easy-to-use terminal (cli) text editor - you can use arrow keys, etc.
[10:10] <openandfree> for instance - cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:10] <mzinz> Hey how do I make files ending in '~' not appear in my GUI?
[10:10] <rukuartic> UBUNTUUSER2002: (cli = command line interface)
[10:10] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, The important thing is, replace the Driver "nv" or "Driver "nvidia" with Driver "vesa".
[10:11] <djk_> does anyone know of a way to convert chm to pdf or ps ?
[10:11] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, Once you saved the file, enter /etc/init.d/gdm restart (Or reboot)
[10:11] <Polypterus> openandfree: oh, cool. nice1
[10:11] <hartz> dammit
[10:11] <scifi> i cant get java to install using apt-get, can anyone help?
[10:12] <slew> scifi, check the ubuntu wiki
[10:13] <Polypterus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[10:13] <scifi> slew: i have used the commands on the ubuntu wiki
[10:13] <bur[n] er> djk_: there's a chm viewer if i recall... then maybe you can print to a pdf printer?
[10:13] <Polypterus> ah, beat me to it slew :)
[10:13] <mzinz> Whats a really good system monitor plugin for SuperKaramba?
[10:14] <scifi> o right thats different to what i saw
[10:14] <Cooner750> I think my temper has finally cooled off. What is the command to reconfigure the X server? I took out a space-wasting heat-generating AGP video card and reconnected the monitor to the onboard video and it crashes to the X server blue screen
[10:14] <slew> scifi, yeah, its a bit diffrent, just take your time. =]
[10:14] <djk_> bur[n] er: there are a few. xCHM doesn't support that, and there aren't any others in the repos.
[10:14] <teletubbie> how do you start epiphany?
[10:15] <teletubbie> I just installed it but the command is not there :\
[10:15] <diggyz> Can someone help me please? ill try boot my ubuntu livecd and all i get is the mousepointer and the brown backgrounds.. no icons or something like that =(
[10:15] <diggyz> worked fine on my friends computer
[10:15] <slew> Cooner750, sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server
[10:15] <rukuartic> diggyz: How old is your comp, out of interest? And are there any icons to appear on the desktop? Do you get the menu bars?
[10:16] <scifi> hmmm whats going on, suddenly the "add applications" entry in applications menu doesnt execute when i click on it :O
[10:16] <mzinz> Whats the KDE program Ark do?
[10:16] <hartz> Cooner750, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:16] <diggyz> rukuartic: no bars, no icons, nothign more then pointer and background color.. computer is a amd64 3500+
[10:16] <Rondom_> mzinz: it's for archives
[10:16] <Rondom_> mzinz: extracting, creating and so on
[10:17] <rukuartic> diggyz: Out of interest, did you see if there was a 64 bit live CD availiable? did you download it if there was?
[10:17] <flithm> hey everyone... is there a repo somewhere for up to date nvidia drivers?
[10:17] <Warbo> flithm: Dapper now has the latest
[10:17] <hartz> slew do you know how to get sound from the rear speakers?
[10:17] <geronimo_> who in hell is using my fine nickname?
[10:18] <diggyz> rukuartic: there is a 64bit livecd out, but i downloaded the nprmal i386 cause i wanted it for my other computer also
[10:18] <jadaz87> !language
[10:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:18] <geronimo_> oh, this is freenode?
[10:19] <apokryphos> geronimo_: /msg nickserv ghost username password
[10:19] <apokryphos> geronimo_: yes
[10:19] <geronimo_> yay
[10:19] <jadaz87> !tell geronimo_ about language
[10:19] <hartz> ubuto who said something rude!!!!?  who? who!?
[10:19] <geronimo_> jadaz87, stop spam
[10:19] <Warbo> flithm: Well, I wouldn't recommend it if you are happy with Breezy.  Not worth it if you are on Breezy though
[10:19] <jadaz87> geronimo_ stop with your language
[10:19] <scifi> shud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java?
[10:19] <apokryphos> jadaz87: stop
[10:19] <geronimo_> jadaz87, my language is fine
[10:19] <flithm> Warbo, actually I'm not that happy with Breezy at all... all the packages are so old!  is there an automated upgrade procedure?
[10:20] <jadaz87> and i have not spammed anyway
[10:20] <trainstroker> can i write to ntfs on ubuntu?
[10:20] <trainstroker> its a windows partition
[10:20] <jadaz87> trainstroker no you can not, you can read from it
[10:20] <trainstroker> fack
[10:20] <Warbo> flithm: If you really want to upgrade then the easiest way is to open up "/etc/apt/sources.list" as super user and change every "breezy" to "dapper", then update and dist-upgrade apt (or Synaptic)
[10:20] <trainstroker> sotheres no way to do it
[10:21] <flithm> Warbo, gotcha... thanks :)
[10:21] <zF> trainer, I know there's someway to do it, but I forget.
[10:21] <flithm> Warbo, so update all the packages first... then dist-upgrade?
[10:21] <scifi> neone pls?
[10:21] <thesaltydog> dapper does not automatically upgrade gconf tree to the new merged-tree in gconf2?
[10:22] <Klowner> gaah why did I upgrade to dapper
[10:22] <flithm> heh
[10:22] <Klowner> actually, it's quite nice and usable, but there's no inkscape
[10:22] <zim> hi all how can i rm -Rf *.m4a that will look in all dirs from ./
[10:22] <Warbo> flithm: The "update" refers to apt updating it's lists of packages and "upgrade" refers to actually getting the newer packages, that is the general use of those terms
[10:22] <flithm> Warbo, thanks
[10:22] <diggyz> if i have a amd64 do i need the amd64 version of the live cd then? or nornal i386 works fine?
[10:22] <Klowner> zim: probably using the find command, somehow.. one sec, I'll googly
[10:23] <zim> ty
[10:23] <slew> diggyz, you prolly want the 64bit version
[10:23] <Warbo> diggyz: Both should work but amd64 should make full use of your hardware
[10:23] <scifi> shud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java?
[10:23] <diggyz> okey thanks
[10:23] <Klowner> zim:  here ya go  http://www.tech-recipes.com/unix_tips129.html
[10:23] <zim> ty
[10:23] <accumulator> zim: for i in `find / -name *m4a`; do rm -i $i; done
[10:24] <Klowner> or accumulator's method
[10:24] <mzinz> My sound works perfectly in Gnome,but won't work in KDE... What can i do?
[10:24] <diggyz> cause my livecd cant start, i just got the mousepointer and backgrounds brown
[10:24] <diggyz> then i stops
[10:24] <apokryphos> zim: you'll want a ./ there instead of a /
[10:24] <zim> i was just about to ask that
[10:24] <apokryphos> accumulator: that'll remove all m4as on his hard-drive :)
[10:25] <accumulator> sorry. good thing I put the -i in :)
[10:25] <vinboy> hi
[10:25] <vinboy> how do I defrag my ext3 filesystem?
[10:25] <Warbo> digyz: That sounds like it might be a problem with one of the programs. Usually if it is a major problem like x86 not working on amd64 then it would get an error WAY before then. Which type of disc do you have and which version (breezy or dapper)
[10:25] <zim> what is the -i
[10:25] <jadaz87> vinboy there is not need to defrag it
[10:25] <jadaz87> no*
[10:25] <apokryphos> zim: prompt before removing
[10:25] <diggyz> Warbo:
[10:25] <zim> ok
[10:25] <accumulator> zim: interactive. it asks for confirmation
[10:25] <vinboy> jadaz87: ok thanks
[10:25] <diggyz> Warbo: ubuntu-5.10-live-amd64.iso
[10:25] <scifi> shud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java or not?
[10:25] <zim> kewl
[10:27] <zim> So this will just do it but from the point i enter the command--->for i in `find ./ -name *m4a`; do rm $i; done
[10:27] <accumulator> yep
[10:27] <kiko0123> is there any Grub (boot loader) settings app in ubuntu ?
[10:27] <trainstroker> can i write to ntfs on ubuntu?
[10:27] <zim> ty all
[10:27] <accumulator> trainstroker: no
[10:27] <apokryphos> trainstroker: no; ntfs-writing on GNU/Linux is highly experimental and unstable
[10:27] <Warbo> diggyz: That sounds like it should run fine on your hardware. How long have you left it? (because some people have found that it takes ages to load, but that's still a problem, just not as major as nothing coming up). I would actually suggest installing Ubuntu, to see if it works. Basically the Live CD has to work out what hardware you have, but an installation can remember
[10:27] <apokryphos> blame Microsoft
[10:27] <accumulator> trainstroker: well partially. ntfs support is very limited
[10:28] <jadaz87> vinboy you are most welcome
[10:28] <trainstroker> kk
[10:28] <scifi> shud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java? pls help!
[10:28] <prgrmr> i try update my fire-fox to <IP_ADDRESS>, and now fire-fox not working, what can i do?
[10:28] <trainstroker> can i create a shortcut to a folder buried deeep in an ntfs partition
[10:28] <accumulator> scifi: ehh yes!
[10:28] <apokryphos> trainstroker: of course
[10:28] <trainstroker> how
[10:28] <trainstroker> i tried to create a link
[10:28] <rukuartic> trainstroker: ln -s shortcut /path/to/your/long/folder
[10:28] <trainstroker> sudo?
[10:28] <apokryphos> rukuartic: other way round
[10:29] <surfdue_lappy> hello firefox tries to play videos with totem, i want it to use mplayer
[10:29] <surfdue_lappy> how do i remove totem?
[10:29] <Warbo> trainstroker: There is no reliable way of changing NTFS drives (saving, moving, etc to them) but there are partially successful methods now, based on FUSE. They will NOT destroy your drive if they fail though, which is nice
[10:29] <rukuartic> apokryphos: Thanks
[10:29] <scifi> accumulator: it says its potentially unsafe
[10:29] <mzinz> My sound works perfectly in Gnome,but won't work in KDE... What can i do?
[10:29] <apokryphos> trainstroker: no need if you're putting the shortcut in a place where your user can write to
[10:29] <rukuartic> trainstroker: Might need to if you have to be root to access the drive
[10:29] <apokryphos> mzinz: aplay some.wav. Sound output?
[10:29] <prgrmr> i try update my fire-fox to <IP_ADDRESS>, and now fire-fox not working, what can i do?
[10:29] <accumulator> scifi: you can write to files, but not append to them
[10:29] <mzinz> where can i find a .wav sound
[10:29] <trainstroker> rok when i tried to create a short cut. the target has spaces it (My Documents)
[10:30] <apokryphos> mzinz: locate *.wav
[10:30] <scifi> accumulator: i'll choose "yes" then :)
[10:30] <apokryphos> mzinz: or go into KDE control center and go to Sound and "Test Sound"
[10:30] <diggyz> Warbo: i have waited for like 1h before i gave up :)
[10:30] <mzinz> apokryphos: wheres the control center?
[10:30] <mzinz> apokryphos: oh, kcontrol
[10:30] <apokryphos> mzinz: or systemsettings, as in the K Menu
[10:30] <Warbo> trainstroker: In a command line you can put a backslash before a character to use spaces, slashes, etc. (so "ln -s /windowsfolder/My\ Documents /home/Windows\ Documents")
[10:31] <cih997> Anyone know how play MP3 on Ubuntu Live CD ?
[10:31] <accumulator> mzinz: yeah I lost that one as well!
[10:31] <Warbo> diggyz: Oh. Well, I would reccomend an installation. If it doesn't work then you can always delete it
[10:31] <teletubbie> how do I get flash to work with epiphany
[10:31] <Newbuntu> is anyone here on konqueror?
[10:31] <accumulator> no KDE Control Center entry anywhere in the menu
[10:31] <Warbo> teletubbie: Does it work with Firefox?
[10:31] <mzinz> apokryphos: it works.
[10:31] <mzinz> apokryphos: meaning i need the mp3 package
[10:31] <prgrmr> i try update my fire-fox to <IP_ADDRESS>, and now fire-fox not working, what can i do?
[10:32] <mzinz> apokryphos: why do i need it again even if i have it in gnome?
[10:32] <Newbuntu> firefox keeps crashing repetively for me
[10:32] <apokryphos> mzinz: are you using a different player?
[10:32] <apokryphos> mzinz: check the Kubuntu FAQ on http://kubuntu.org
[10:32] <teletubbie> Warbo, nope
[10:32] <mzinz> apokryphos: xmms.
[10:32] <teletubbie> I installed flash from apt
[10:32] <mzinz> !mp3
[10:32] <Laney> np: Grandmaster Flash - The Roof Is On Fire
[10:32] <Laney> np: Grandmaster Flash - The Roof Is On Fire
[10:32] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:32] <apokryphos> mzinz: don't use that :P
[10:32] <accumulator> prgrmr: did you add a source in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:32] <scifi> how do i update firefox?
[10:33] <mzinz> apokryphos: why?
[10:33] <teletubbie> !flash
[10:33] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:33] <apokryphos> Laney: ?
[10:33] <jadaz87> !tell scifi about ff1.5
[10:33] <Warbo> teletubbie: Do you know how to enable Universe and install the flashplayer-mozilla package? (someone correct me if that package name is wrong)
[10:33] <diggyz> Warbo: okey thanks for your help
[10:33] <apokryphos> mzinz: because it sucks. There are far better mp3 players
[10:33] <mzinz> apokryphos: ohh dont use xmms
[10:33] <Newbuntu> i need someone in conqueror to tell me if the see this flash site as normal .. http://www.dead.net/index2.php
[10:33] <kiko0123> Is there any Grub (bootloader) configuration application on ubuntu ?
[10:33] <mzinz> apokryphos: like what? BMPx?
[10:33] <duelboot> Laney, let it burn   lol
[10:33] <apokryphos> !players
[10:33] <ubotu> somebody said players was Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[10:33] <scifi> ty jadaz
[10:34] <jadaz87> scifi you are most welcome
[10:34] <Newbuntu> sorry that was konqueror
[10:34] <duelboot> amaroK rocks apokryphos
[10:34] <apokryphos> indeed :)
[10:34] <Warbo> Newbuntu: I heard that mozilla plugins will work in Konqueror. Is this true?
[10:34] <prgrmr> accumulator, i don't know i used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:34] <apokryphos> they don't
[10:35] <prgrmr> i don't remember
[10:35] <Newbuntu> warbo some do, macromedia flash being one of them and java
[10:35] <nemster> somehow i suddenly have all edubuntu logos nd stuff here, how can i switch to ubuntu?
[10:35] <Newbuntu> its a bit tricky though and I can view certain pages
[10:36] <zim> here is a long shot is there a command line app that will convert m4a to mp3
[10:36] <Warbo> Newbuntu: I do like Konqueror (even though I use GNOME) but I wasn't sure how easily the general Mozilla/Firefox plugins work, which is all anybody really makes plugins for
[10:36] <rukuartic> nemster: Search for "gnome"
[10:36] <rukuartic> nemster: In Synaptic that is
[10:36] <nemster> rukuartic: ok
[10:37] <Newbuntu> they work but need serious tweaking
[10:37] <rukuartic> nemster: Just a common sense thing... try checking the wiki though. might have more detailed instructions
[10:37] <nemster> rukuartic: thanks
[10:37] <accumulator> prgrmr: there's removal instructions at the bottom of the page
[10:37] <Kaya_> Nemster > you dont goto yahoo chat do you?
[10:37] <mrazster> a mirc n00b question...how do I reg my name on irc
[10:38] <accumulator> mirc?
[10:38] <nemster> i just booted my ubuntu here on the notebook for a long time, i usually use gentoo and windows
[10:38] <duelboot> !register
[10:38] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:38] <nemster> Kaya_: nah not really
[10:38] <blindx> ./nickserv register password email
[10:38] <accumulator> MIRC??
[10:38] <mrazster> yes Mirc
[10:38] <prgrmr> accumulator, i can't see this page
[10:38] <Kaya_> Nemster > ok np's its just i know someone who does called Mr.Nemster, thought it might be you =o)
[10:38] <mzinz> Whats a good audio player for kubuntu?
[10:38] <scifi> jadaz87: it says: cp: cannot stat `signons.txt': No such file or directory
[10:38] <scifi> , when i try to backup firefox settings
[10:38] <prgrmr> i can't use FF
[10:38] <blindx> Why are you using mirc? :\
[10:38] <Newbuntu> mozilla is very buggy for  ubuntu i find
[10:38] <Kaya_> mzinz > amarok
[10:38] <accumulator> prgrmr: ahh no browser? :)
[10:39] <prgrmr> yes :)
[10:39] <blindx> mzinz: xmms ftw
[10:39] <nemster> is there anything i have to do besides dist-upgrade to get the most bleeding edge ubuntu here?
[10:39] <mrazster> blindx: thnx m8
[10:39] <Warbo> mzinz: Amarok has all the features you could want, but takes loads of memory
[10:39] <mzinz> Kaya_: amarok seems bulky, whats so good about it?
[10:39] <Kaya_> just a nice UI imo
[10:39] <ompaul> !register
[10:39] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:39] <mrazster> ff
[10:39] <nemster> i have compiz and xgl running here too, tho its a intel 855 centrino chip it runs quite nice
[10:40] <duelboot> ompaul, copycat :)
[10:40] <mrazster> dd
[10:40] <accumulator> !porn
[10:40] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, accumulator
[10:40] <Warbo> mzinz: Amarok includes loads of plying enginges and output plugins, it has built in AidioScrobbler and last.fm, Amazon covers, Wikipedia info on bands, Musicbrainz ID3 info, etc.
[10:40] <ompaul> duelboot, so that is true
[10:40] <mrazster> d
[10:40] <ompaul> !CoC
[10:40] <ubotu> coc is probably the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:40] <teletubbie> My system use nvsound kernel module. it uses OSS. how do I configure software mixing with oss?
[10:40] <ompaul> accumulator, ^^
[10:40] <trainstroker> ok iopen my desktop folder in therminal. i type this: sudo ln -s /media/sda2/documents\ and\ settings/trainstroker/my\ documents/my\ music
[10:40] <trainstroker> . and i get a broken shortcut
[10:40] <teletubbie> how do I know if my card support hardware mixing??
[10:40] <accumulator> thanks
[10:41] <mzinz> Warbo: oh wow
[10:41] <Warbo> mzinz: Is that sarcastic, or genuine?
[10:41] <mzinz> Warbo: no i meant it
[10:41] <Warbo> mzinz: :)
[10:41] <Blissex> teletubbie: odds are it does not unless it is a SB or an Audigy
[10:41] <nemster> grrr.
[10:41] <teletubbie> so how do I setup software mixing with oss?
[10:42] <trainstroker> . and i get a broken shortcut
[10:42] <trainstroker> . and i get a broken shortcut
[10:42] <trainstroker> ok iopen my desktop folder in therminal. i type this: sudo ln -s /media/sda2/documents\ and\ settings/trainstroker/my\ documents/my\ music
[10:42] <trainstroker> anyone?
[10:42] <zim> i am trying to convert loads of m4as tp mp3 is ther ea command line tool for the job ???
[10:42] <nemster> i tried to switch the keybord layout and now the window manager style changed somehow and not the layout
[10:42] <scifi>  when i try to backup firefox settings
[10:42] <Warbo> trainstroker: Linux is case sensitive (Documents\ and\ Settings, etc.)
[10:42] <accumulator> zim: transcode or sox
[10:42] <jadaz87> does anyone know where a user's desktop settings are kept?
[10:42] <trainstroker> o okj
[10:43] <teletubbie> !oss
[10:43] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie
[10:43] <zim> what is the command
[10:43] <XamDM> jadaz87, which desktop ?? gnome xfce ???
[10:43] <jadaz87> gnome
[10:43] <jadaz87> xamdm^^
[10:43] <Warbo> jadaz87: In your home dir (show hidden files) General settings applied to all users by default are in /etc/skel
[10:43] <rob138> hi, just yesterday my gnome crashed.  all i can tell about how it happened is that i tried to change the theme, and then my date/time and other panel applets crashed, then when i restarted gdm, it wouldn't load after the login screen and splash, the panels would just keep loading and failing and my keyboard wouldn't allow me to switch to tty1 or anything...
[10:43] <XamDM> jadaz87, somewhere in .gnome .gnome2 i think
[10:43] <jadaz87> Warbo which folder?
[10:44] <teletubbie> !esd
[10:44] <ompaul> trainstroker, please can you keep all your idea, or comments to one single line, multiple lines are bad for the channel and make it hard to follow your request, thanks
[10:44] <JayGuerette> I'm a long time user of Redhat, from 5.x through to current Fedora. The one thing I hate, is the
[10:44] <teletubbie> how do I setup esd to use oss?
[10:44] <Warbo> jadaz87: They are generally named due to the program. .gnome2 keeps GNOME settings, but it is easier to edit them with Apps>System Tools>Configuration Editor
[10:44] <scifi> i get cp: cannot stat `signons.txt': No such file or directory when trying to backup firefox settings
[10:44] <jadaz87> WArbo xamdm thanks
[10:45] <XamDM> jadaz87, np
[10:45] <dani_> Alguien habla espaol??????
[10:45] <ompaul> !es
[10:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:45] <JayGuerette> I'm a long time user of Redhat, from 5.x through to current Fedora. The one thing I hate, is the monolitic upgrades. Having to take the box down and upgrade from CDs. Is it true of Debian derivatives that you can endlessly upgrade, only rebooting for kernel updates?
[10:47] <Warbo> JayGuerette: More so with regular Debian than Ubuntu, but only because Debian can use names like "stable" and "testing" which always point to latest version, on Ubuntu you have to change your package sources to point to latest version
[10:48] <teletubbie> !sound
[10:48] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:48] <ompaul> JayGuerette, yes, as long as you stick to the sources that come with the machine, you can use things like debfoster to manage where you started with a machine, as warbo says but the change is not that big as you change one word on many lines in a single config file (hoary - breezy) was one case :)
[10:48] <JayGuerette> Hmmm
[10:49] <scifi> i get cp: cannot stat `signons.txt': No such file or directory when trying to backup firefox setting  ne ideas guys?
[10:49] <UKMatt> Does anybody here run Wine?
[10:49] <jadaz87> WArbo lets say i configure gnome right? what folder whould i drop into /etc/skel
[10:50] <rukuartic> UKMatt: I do
[10:50] <JayGuerette> Thanks! I'll check out debfoster.
[10:50] <hartz> scifi, That means the file is nout found.  I notice that there is no path to the file specified, so some process (the one reporting the error) is looking for the file in it's working directory
[10:50] <ompaul> scifi, /home/username/.mozilla/firefox/other-funny-name.default/signons.txt
[10:50] <teletubbie> can't you install Limewire through apt?
[10:51] <splatta> jadaz87: you don't put anything in /etc/skell, /etc/skell contains examples
[10:51] <jadaz87> splatta i am customizing a livecd
[10:51] <bimberi> !limewire
[10:51] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[10:51] <splatta> jadaz87 : ahh nm
[10:51] <JayGuerette> debfoster deprecated in favor of aptitude
[10:51] <UKMatt> !java
[10:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:52] <FlannelKing> JayGuerette: aptitude has debfoster capabilities?
[10:52] <teletubbie> !java
[10:52] <ompaul> JayGuerette, now that makes me get frustrated
[10:52] <JayGuerette> debfoster site says use aptitude
[10:53] <ompaul> JayGuerette,  sudo apt-get install debfoster
[10:53] <Blissex> FlannelKing: it is one of the examples in the Aptitude docs...
[10:53] <jadacyrus> Does anyone know if Ubuntu breezy or dapper will run on a Dell poweredge 2500, just wondering if it has support for the RAID controller / scsi drives
[10:53] <ompaul> JayGuerette,  use what your distro has :-)
[10:53] <FlannelKing> Blissex: I've never used aptitude
[10:53] <ompaul> !tell JayGuerette about repos
[10:53] <jlhenry>  I got this error: http://squid-cache.bestwebcover.com/mail-archive/squid-users/200402/0221.html
[10:53] <rukuartic> jadacyrus: Tried looking in the wiki?
[10:53] <jlhenry> I mean that i have TCP_MISS/403 error code that I want to replace with TCP_DENIED/403
[10:53] <jlhenry> It says that: "Or you could filter TCP_MISS/403 with no hierarchy code and replace them  with TCP_DENIED. "
[10:53] <jlhenry> but i do not have a clue how I can do that
[10:53] <jlhenry> any idea
[10:54] <jlhenry> ?
[10:54] <jadacyrus> rukuartic: link?
[10:54] <zF> What's the package I need to play flash in firefox?
[10:54] <scifi> hartz/ompaul: i liked in there cant see it ompaul, not even sure what im meant to do with it once i find it, the signons.txt was included in part of the command to backup firefox settings
[10:54] <rukuartic> jadacyrus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:54] <scifi> looked*
[10:54] <rukuartic> jadacyrus: New here?
[10:54] <jadacyrus> thx
[10:54] <JayGuerette> lol, no, I'm a Fedora user thinking of switching to a Debian flavor to do slipstream upgrades intead of monolithic ones
[10:54] <JayGuerette> I hate taking my box down
[10:55] <zim> help to the guys that helped me before i closed the wrong box now can see that command you gave me to remove m4as pls scroll up and give it back ty
[10:55] <FlannelKing> zim: how long ago was it?
[10:55] <trainstroker> ok iopen my desktop folder in therminal. i type this: sudo ln -s /media/sda2/documents\ and\ settings/trainstroker/my\ documents/my\ music . can someone help
[10:55] <zim> 5 - 10 min
[10:56] <zim> i posed the on i need with the ---->
[10:56] <rhalff> anyone happen to have a samsung 930BF ?
[10:56] <ompaul> accumulator zim: for i in `find / -name *m4a`; do rm -i $i; done that one?
[10:56] <zim> ty
[10:57] <splatta> trainstroker: case sensetive?
[10:57] <jadaz87> hello i am having a problem where when i use sudo in the terminal it just hangs
[10:57] <zim> close buy i can work it out from there
[10:57] <scifi> pls help, i dont feel im getting anywhere with this firefox update :P
[10:57] <trainstroker> splatta: yeah
[10:58] <splatta> trainstroker: is your folder documents and settings or Documents and Settings ?
[10:58] <trainstroker> the latter
[10:58] <splatta> trainstroker: and your command you listed above is using lowr case letters, it won't work
[10:59] <trainstroker> i changed it
[10:59] <trainstroker> i copied and pasted its location
[10:59] <trainstroker> hold on im trying something
[10:59] <trainstroker> i think i know the problem
[10:59] <ompaul> !enter
[10:59] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:59] <ompaul> trainstroker, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[10:59] <trainstroker> ?
[11:00] <trainstroker> oh
[11:00] <trainstroker> i get it
[11:00] <jadaz87> hello i am having a problem where when i use sudo in the terminal it just hangs with a blinking cursor
[11:00] <trainstroker> sorry. i am going to have a go at this
[11:00] <ompaul> trainstroker, keep all your words on the one line, and use a command to keep the ideas together, thanks
[11:00] <rukuartic> jadaz87: what command line are you asking?
[11:00] <rukuartic> sending that is
[11:00] <ompaul> s/command/comma
[11:00] <simonpca> a++, je vais manger | i'm gonna eat something, bye
[11:00] <jadaz87> rukuartic sudo perl /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[11:01] <rukuartic> jadaz87: You have to type in your password (and while you are typing, nothing shows up to hide your pw...)
[11:01] <zF> What's the package I need to play flash in firefox?
[11:01] <jadaz87> rukuartic no it does not even get to the pasword entry
[11:01] <scifi> ;*(
[11:01] <DBO> jadaz87, try typing "sudo echo "test""
[11:01] <ompaul> scifi, are you trying to run 1.5?
[11:01] <DBO> jadaz87, does it echo test?
[11:02] <ScreaminIke> hi. where can i find a working installation of lilypond? the one in the repositories is messed up.
[11:02] <jadaz87> DBO nope
[11:02] <scifi> ompaul: im trying to update to 1.5, but wiki says run this backup command 1st
[11:02] <rukuartic> jadaz87: Are you in the sudoers file?
[11:02] <jadaz87> rukuartic yes
[11:02] <DBO> jadaz87, you are the second person to have this issue that I am aware of... Im really sad to say that the last guy did not get it fixed either...
[11:02] <ompaul> scifi, so your not doing it from where you should, I would imagine
[11:02] <VR_> hah, "the edgy eft"
[11:02] <VR_> what a name
[11:02] <teletubbie> !science
[11:02] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie
[11:03] <teletubbie> !scientific
[11:03] <ubotu> teletubbie: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:03] <teletubbie> !math
[11:03] <ubotu> teletubbie: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:03] <jadaz87> rukuartic it was working before i restarted my computer
[11:03] <erUSUL> ScreaminIke: if it's messed up you should fire up a bug report in malone look up here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs
[11:03] <jadaz87> !tell teletubbie about msg the bot
[11:03] <ScreaminIke> where can i find a working installation of lilypond? the one in the repositories is messed up.
[11:03] <jadacyrus> Does ubuntu have the best driver support at this poiint out of all other distributions?
[11:03] <DBO> jadaz87, have you by chance set a password on your root account?
[11:03] <DBO> jadacyrus, hard to say, it has good hardware support though
[11:03] <jadaz87> DBO no even if i did it should have come up with the poassword entry
[11:04] <DBO> jadaz87, I know, Im trying to think of ways to rectify the situation
[11:04] <DBO> jadaz87, as it stands you effectively do not have root access
[11:04] <rukuartic> DBO perhaps...
[11:04] <rukuartic> jadaz87: sudo -i?
[11:04] <erUSUL> !tell ScreaminIke about repeat
[11:04] <rukuartic> jadaz87: gksudo?
[11:04] <ompaul> scifi, type pwd and tell me the result thanks
[11:05] <jadaz87> rukuartic nope to both
[11:05] <ScreaminIke> sorry, erUSUL
[11:07] <Rawplayer> re
[11:07] <DBO> jadaz87, can you view the sudoers file?
[11:08] <jadaz87> DBO where is it
[11:08] <DBO> /etc/sudoers
[11:08] <DBO> I dont think you will be able to...
[11:08] <jadaz87> DBO nope
[11:08] <DBO> jadaz87, have you a live boot CD?
[11:08] <jadaz87> DBO nope
[11:09] <DBO> jadaz87, get one
[11:09] <DBO> you need it
[11:09] <Mathman> haha, man, I love penny arcade today
[11:09] <mrazster> guys...anyone of you installed quake-forge/quake II  ..??
[11:09] <jadaz87> DBO i cannot get on the internet without wireless
[11:10] <Mathman> mrazster: long time ago, on debian I'm thinking.  why?
[11:10] <jadaz87> DBO i whould have to ndiswrapper but you have to get online with that lol
[11:11] <DBO> bit of a catch22
[11:11] <mrazster> well....I tried yestrday...just for the sake of it...but when compiling or whatever...I got an error at the end about an XML parser or something....
[11:11] <DBO> so erm... color me stupid... but how are you online right now?
[11:11] <jadaz87> DBO wireless
[11:11] <rukuartic> DBO, he's saying he wouldn't be able to access net with live CD
[11:11] <DBO> ooooh
[11:11] <mrazster> shouldn't it be done as usual with ./configure, make, make install
[11:11] <DBO> you dont need wireless with the liveboot
[11:12] <rukuartic> He would for instructions
[11:12] <Mathman> mrazster: I'd be more partial to apt-get foo.  but yeah, that would work too.
[11:12] <jadaz87> DBO what whoudl that do? i cannot access the harddrive from live cd
[11:12] <DBO> jadaz87, you can mount the hard drive with the live CD
[11:12] <prgrmr> can i install automatix on amd64?
[11:12] <DBO> NO
[11:12] <DBO> Never use automatix
[11:12] <DBO> it breaks systems
[11:12] <prgrmr> :(
[11:12] <cge> prgrmr, DBO is correct.
[11:13] <DBO> and harsh
[11:13] <jadaz87> !automatrix
[11:13] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[11:13] <Xardas_busy> hi
[11:13] <homedawg> i cant remove gdm while trying to remaster dapper flight 6, any ideas?
[11:13] <DBO> !automatix
[11:13] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[11:13] <Mathman> mrazster: if it's telling you that when you're trying to build it from source, then yeah, install xml whatever the heck it's looking for
[11:13] <Xardas_busy> does here anyone use lilypond?
[11:13] <say2sky> dapper beta available now
[11:13] <mrazster> yeah it in the repos...tried installing with synaptic...but when everything done and i type quale2 in terminal...it says something about a missing file in baseq2
[11:13] <McGuyverOfBeer> yep populating to mirrors :)
[11:13] <cge> say2sky, !?
[11:13] <eugman> Anyone here use gnome-mud?
[11:13] <homedawg> this is what i get when i try to remove it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12563
[11:14] <tanath> anyone know a fast/easy way to go through each file in a directory and replace a string of characters if it occurs in the filename?
[11:14] <cge> tanath, mmv maybe?
[11:14] <rukuartic> tanath: bash scripting :P
[11:14] <DBO> jadaz87, you would need to verify that the admin group is in /etc/sudoers and that your user is in the proper group... jadaz87, failing that changing your userID to 0 in /etc/passwd would effectively give you root access and give you a chance to fix things
[11:14] <blindx> how do you do ascii text in ubuntu?
[11:14] <mrazster> oh well...no biggie....just thought that mabye anyone tried it recently...and had an idea
[11:14] <squiddle> /var/run/screen/S-squiddle/5417.desktop: No such file or directory
[11:14] <jadaz87> homedawg!!!! :-)
[11:14] <rukuartic> blindx: ?
[11:14] <squiddle> what is wrong?
[11:15] <Warbo> tanath: Maybe if you know a little perl or Python, if not then possibly bash
[11:15] <blindx>  for example
[11:15] <blindx> alt codes on a windows box
[11:15] <jadaz87> DBO let me see if a restart will do anything
[11:15] <jadaz87> DBO that works sometimes
[11:15] <rukuartic> blindx: press alt, type numbers?
[11:15] <tanath> what would i stick in a script?
[11:15] <DBO> jadaz87, okie dokie
[11:15] <blindx> it doesn't work?
[11:15] <rukuartic> blindx: I jsut get a box...  I suppose?
[11:15] <Warbo> blindx: It depends on the program. OOo should be the easiest, then you could copy/pate it wherever it's needed
[11:15] <humbolt> I have trouble with my WLAN
[11:15] <cge> DBO, if a password is never showing up, is that the problem? I seem to recall that a password entry does show up even if you don't have permission.
[11:15] <blindx> OOo ??
[11:16] <Warbo> blindx: OpenOffice.org
[11:16] <blindx> ohh.
[11:16] <DBO> cge, I know... which is why I had the "and failing that" aspect to give him root permissions
[11:16] <hussam> Is any of the daily dapper cds working? ( not stability but installer-wise)
[11:16] <humbolt> I get disconnected without getting disconnected!
[11:16] <cge> DBO, ah, I see.
[11:16] <homedawg> while trying to remaster dapper flight 6 i've come across not being able to remove gdm. this is what i get when i try to remove it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12563
[11:16] <humbolt> My downloads and skype connections are dropped but NetworkManager does not show anything happen.
[11:17] <prgrmr> can i install easy ubuntu on amd64?
[11:17] <DBO> cge, hacking a system with local access is just too easy =P  /etc/passwd really should be encrypted in some form...
[11:17] <cge> DBO, won't help. The whole partition would have to be encrypted
[11:18] <beerockxs> whenever i run gedit with sudo, i get lots of messages similar to this: "Audio device open for 8.192Khz, mono, 8bit failed
[11:18] <beerockxs> Trying 8Khz, 8bit mono.
[11:18] <beerockxs> Sound device inadequate for Esound. Fatal.
[11:18] <beerockxs> " in the console
[11:18] <beerockxs> non-sudo, I don't get them.
[11:18] <beerockxs> what might cause that?
[11:18] <DBO> cge, meh, Im not concerned with people comprimising the box locally, that is going to happen.  I am concerned with people compromising the box locally in a way that is hard to detect and doesnt effect the system performance
[11:18] <bungle> how do i preview mp3s in nautilus?
[11:18] <bungle> doesnt seem to work :-(
[11:19] <DBO> bungle, do mp3's work for you at all?
[11:19] <bungle> yes D8
[11:19] <erUSUL> DBO: that's why /etc/shadow exist in the first place
[11:19] <ciubi> hello people
[11:19] <Warbo> hello
[11:19] <jadaz87>  DBO it works now :-\
[11:19] <DBO> erUSUL, that only protects from gaining the hash, it doesnt prevent live boots from writing to it
[11:19] <raww> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[11:19] <raww> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[11:19] <raww> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[11:19] <DBO> jadaz87, cool
[11:19] <ciubi> i have a problem
[11:19] <jadaz87> DBO here is the contents of the sudoes
[11:19] <ciubi> i have a problem
[11:19] <jadaz87> !ops
[11:19] <ciubi> i have a problem
[11:19] <ciubi> i have a problem
[11:19] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:20] <McGuyverOfBeer> good god...
[11:20] <ciubi> how whant's to help me
[11:20] <FlannelKing> good afternoon lilo.
[11:20] <dekela> ciubi: Whats the problem?
[11:20] <ompaul> jadaz87, that one is known no worries
[11:20] <bungle> DBO, yes can play then and i have set preview
[11:20] <DBO> bungle, you got me
[11:20] <Warbo> ciubi: Please don't post multiple times, just put your question (if it is long use pastebin)
[11:20] <bungle> ok ta anyway
[11:20] <jadaz87> ompaul what do you mean?
[11:20] <cge> DBO, oh, I see. If it were encrypted, I suppose that the attacker wouldn't be able to keep the same passwords for everyone. But even then, the encryption would have to be such that the user had to enter some passphrase while booting, or an attacker could gain root and then decrypt it.
[11:20] <DBO> ompaul, does a reboot always fix it?
[11:20] <ompaul> lilo just had a visit: c-68-62-247-89.hsd1.tn.comcast.net
[11:21] <nalioth> jadaz87: we have a new function for Ubugtu
[11:21] <ompaul> DBO, ?
[11:21] <DBO> cge, you are correct, such a scheme would be... very complex
[11:21] <ciubi> k
[11:21] <ciubi> srry
[11:21] <ciubi> Now
[11:21] <nalioth> ompaul: that is not necessary, lilo and HedgeMage are in the !ops trigger
[11:21] <DBO> ompaul, the sudo not giving a password prompt
[11:21] <bungle> how do i preview mp3s in nautilus?
[11:21] <jadaz87> nalioth oh ok that does it do?
[11:21] <Warbo> ciubi: That better be a joke
[11:21] <ompaul> true
[11:21] <erUSUL> DBO: only root can write /etc/passwd
[11:21] <SteveA> what's the best instant messaging app to use with dapper?
[11:21] <CNAP> anybody know where i can find the recycle bin?
[11:21] <CNAP> stevea, GAIM
[11:21] <kiko0123> can ubuntu write in NTFS or only read ?
[11:22] <DBO> erUSUL, give me local access to your box and a live boot and I will show you otherwise =P
[11:22] <nalioth> jadaz87: didn't you see what Ubugtu did?
[11:22] <Warbo> CNAP: home/.Trash
[11:22] <FlannelKing> kiko0123: just read
[11:22] <CNAP> warbo, gracias
[11:22] <homedawg> while trying to remaster dapper flight 6 i've come across not being able to remove gdm. this is what i get when i try to remove it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12563
[11:22] <ltR20> hey i got a problem
[11:22] <kiko0123> ohk...
[11:22] <FlannelKing> kiko0123: all linux can just read, not just ubuntu.
[11:22] <ltR20> everytime i download the nvidia drivers
[11:22] <ciubi> when i whant to enter in a partition he don't let me see because he say i dont have permision to open
[11:22] <mohadib> does breezy stable not have ncftp in apt?
[11:22] <kiko0123> FlannelKing, there is no way to write ?
[11:22] <ltR20> it says that it cant startx because it's the wrong version
[11:22] <Warbo> CNAP: If you deleted something on another drive (like an iPod) then it will be iPod/.Trash-username
[11:22] <SteveA> you can put one of hte NTFS filesystems into a write mode
[11:22] <ciubi> what can i do
[11:22] <ompaul> DBO, don't know to be honest
[11:22] <ltR20> and i have to re-configure my xonf
[11:22] <FlannelKing> kiko0123: not one that's stable.  It's because we're having to reverse engineer the ntfs filesystem.
[11:22] <jadaz87> DBO # /etc/sudoers
[11:22] <jadaz87> #
[11:22] <jadaz87> # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[11:22] <jadaz87> #
[11:22] <jadaz87> # See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.
[11:22] <jadaz87> #
[11:22] <shinu> do i have to do anything else to install the fonts or just copy them into /var/lib/defoma/gs.d/dirs/fonts?
[11:22] <jadaz87> # Host alias specification
[11:22] <jadaz87> # User alias specification
[11:22] <DBO> !paste
[11:22] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[11:22] <jadaz87> # Cmnd alias specification
[11:22] <teletubbie> why can't totrem play mp3 files?>
[11:22] <erUSUL> DBO: i'm afraid i do not know what you mean by "live boot"
[11:22] <jadaz87> # Defaults
[11:22] <bungle> !nautilus
[11:22] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bungle
[11:22] <jadaz87> Defaults	!lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn
[11:22] <teletubbie> totem*
[11:22] <jadaz87> # User privilege specification
[11:22] <kiko0123> ok thanx FlannelKing ?
[11:22] <jadaz87> root	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:23] <SteveA> it doesn't work if you don't have a cleanly unmounted ntfs volume
[11:23] <jadaz87> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[11:23] <kiko0123> *!
[11:23] <FlannelKing> sigh.  this is going to take a while.
[11:23] <jadaz87> %admin	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:23] <ltR20> !op
[11:23] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ltR20
[11:23] <erUSUL> jadaz87: please do not paste here
[11:23] <jadaz87> erUSUL it was an accident look http://pastebin.com/670159
[11:23] <SteveA> and also, when it does work, you can only do certain things, like work with preexisting files
[11:23] <DBO> erUSUL, a operating system that runs off of the CD is called a Live Boot
[11:23] <cge> homedawg, replace /etc/init.d/gdm with a null shell script?
[11:23] <jadaz87> erUSUL that is the contents from what i pasted into the pastebin lmao
[11:23] <ciubi> !0x
[11:23] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ciubi
[11:23] <homedawg> what should i place in there?
[11:23] <ciubi> 10x
[11:23] <DBO> erUSUL, it will effectively bypass all security on the local hard drives
[11:24] <ompaul> DBO, okay I read back through what was there
[11:24] <SteveA> thanks CNAP
[11:24] <dekela> Anyone knows of a better archive manager for gnome rather then the default one? Something like winrar
[11:24] <jadaz87> DBO http://pastebin.com/670159
[11:24] <dracflamloc> hi
[11:24] <DBO> ompaul, yeah, appearantly a reboot fixed him, I want to know if thats been put as a bug
[11:24] <DBO> jadaz87, its properly configured, but you are working now... go figure
[11:24] <erUSUL> DBO: you mean physical access? in that scenario there is nothing you can do to prevent access even encription will not work.
[11:24] <dracflamloc> can someone please tell me how to setup dual monitors on an ati x800?
[11:24] <rukuartic> !dualmonitors
[11:24] <Mathman> dekela: whats wrong with fileroller?  anyway, who says it has to be for gnome?  ark is pretty good.
[11:24] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rukuartic
[11:25] <rukuartic> dracflamloc: tried the wiki?
[11:25] <Warbo> dekela: File-roller is just a front-end to command line stuff. The only decent alternative I know of is KDE's Ark which works in GNOME
[11:25] <cge> erUSUL, encryption with a user-supplied passphrase would work.
[11:25] <dracflamloc> yes
[11:25] <DBO> erUSUL, encryption would provide an additional layer of protection
[11:25] <homedawg> cge: what should i change that script to?
[11:25] <dracflamloc> theres only one for nvidia. the one for radeon doesnt work
[11:25] <dekela> Warbo: Mathman thanks
[11:25] <jadaz87> erUSUL sorry about the paste the Ctrl+V accidentally pasted the content that i had put in the pastebin link http://pastebin.com/670159
[11:25] <cge> homedawg, Something like just the line "#!/bin/sh".
[11:25] <erUSUL> cge: with phisical access i can wipe out all your data. end of the history
[11:26] <homedawg> ok
[11:26] <simonpca> plop
[11:26] <DBO> erUSUL, thats ok, you still didnt compromise anything, just wiped it... give me 10 minutes with my backups
[11:26] <cge> erUSUL, yes, but that's what backups are for. You wouldn't be able to comprimise data integrity.
[11:26] <ompaul> DBO, 1) sudo sets a ticket that ticket has a time attached to it (15 minutes if I recall) 2) that system can be revoked , and 3) someone found a bug where a modem a modem was online, the machine powered off and the machine powered on again (rather fast) the modem would dial out during that 15, it is said not to happen with dapper but that is another story
[11:26] <homedawg> wow, your the greatest, worked like a charm cge. :)
[11:26] <rukuartic> out of interest, what would be the effect of a new user (brand new, so no privelages) typing "rm -rf /]
[11:26] <beerockxs> whenever i run gedit with sudo, i get lots of messages similar to this: "Audio device open for 8.192Khz, mono, 8bit failed"
[11:26] <ltR20> how do i find out what kernal version  i have
[11:26] <beerockxs> non-sudo, I don't get them.
[11:26] <beerockxs> what might cause that?
[11:26] <patrick522> how do i set the document root for apache
[11:26] <erUSUL> jadaz87: what is the problem?
[11:27] <FlannelKing> patrick522: it's in your virtual hosts
[11:27] <DBO> ompaul, ah, I see now
[11:27] <Warbo> erUSUL and DBO: Have you seen the recent Slashdot article on IBM's new system where EVERYTHING is encrypted, right up to the monitor output
[11:27] <rukuartic> patrick522: /etc/apache.conf maybe?
[11:27] <cge> homedawg, not sure why it is trying to reload gdm while it is being purged.
[11:27] <homedawg> yeah, its really wierd
[11:27] <DBO> Warbo, sounds like TCPM...
[11:27] <DBO> Warbo, erUSUL, and me, we are offtopic sadly, to offtopic channel we must go =)
[11:28] <Warbo> DBO: I just wanted to add a few facts to chuck around, I'm not going to get imvolved :)
[11:28] <ltR20> how do i find out what kernal version  i have
[11:28] <DBO> Warbo, ok, I wasnt complaining, we all get on tangents here
[11:29] <DBO> ltR20, "uname -r"
[11:29] <Warbo> ItR20: "uname -r"
[11:29] <DBO> jinx
[11:29] <Warbo> lol
[11:29] <ltR20> will it work with http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html
[11:29] <ltR20> i have 2.6.12-10
[11:29] <DBO> ltR20, those drives work just fine =)
[11:29] <DBO> drivers*
[11:30] <DBO> I use them myself
[11:30] <erUSUL> !tell ltR20 about nvidia
[11:30] <jadaz87> hello guys i have a question about vmware
[11:30] <FliesLikeALap> whenever I install a 686  kernel on a computer I have here, the keyboard and mouse stop working, 386 kernels are fine.  any insights ?
[11:30] <FliesLikeALap> on dapper or 5.10
[11:30] <jadaz87> everytime i reboot the computer i have to reconfigure it i guess the vmmon kernel module is not being loaded on boot up
[11:31] <jadaz87> and another question is everytime i try to shutdown or restart when it gets to shutdown power management
[11:31] <jadaz87> it says that there is no BIOS and then hangs after trying to shutdown Firestarter
[11:31] <DBO> alright, im out for a bit
[11:31] <DBO> laters
[11:31] <Warbo> jadaz87: I had the free player (just because I could) but I found it too disruptive with my boot up (especially networking) so I removed it
[11:31] <bungle> how do i preview mp3s in nautilus?
[11:32] <nubuntu> Every ?%&# time I reboot ubuntu I have to stop in the boot manager and write "Linux video=ofonly". Or else I will get no screen picture. How can I append the video=... thing to avoid this?
[11:32] <Warbo> bungle: Apps>System Tools>Configuration Editor, Nautilus, Preferences
[11:32] <rukuartic> nubuntu: you mean, when selecting an image to boot from?
[11:32] <erUSUL> nubuntu: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:32] <Warbo> nubuntu: Add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:32] <bungle> done that Warbo doesnt work :-(
[11:33] <rukuartic> What they said
[11:33] <Warbo> bungle: Oh, do you have MP3 support in Gstreamer?
[11:33] <bungle> yes can play them no problems Warbo
[11:33] <erUSUL> !tell bungle about mp3
[11:33] <Mathman> nubuntu: try ubuntu-ppc or whatever
[11:33] <Aeudian> where is the folder that containts the gnome login screens located
[11:33] <jadaz87> everytime i try to shutdown or restart when it gets to shutdown power management it says that there is no BIOS and then hangs after trying to shutdown Firestarter
[11:33] <Warbo> bungle: Are you sure it is Gstreamer? Do you have Totem-Gstreamer installed not totem-xine and MP3s work in it?
[11:34] <nubuntu> ok
[11:34] <Warbo> Aeudian: I think /usr/share/gdm
[11:34] <bungle> yes Warbo
[11:34] <cih997> Is anyone know how can I burn CDs on Ubuntu? Is it possible?
[11:35] <scifi> ompaul: i had to go for a few minutes and i cant see ur last response about my firefox update
[11:35] <Warbo> bungle: Hmmmm... Well I found it happened automatically when I clicked on an MP3 from Newgrounds, I had to wait for it to stop before I disabled it completely
[11:35] <jadaz87> cih997 you can use k3b
[11:35] <scifi> o no he left
[11:35] <beerockxs> cih997, you can also use nautilus, if you just want to burn some data
[11:35] <Warbo> cih997: There are a few ways. Just dump your CDR in the drive and see what happens :)
[11:36] <cih997> :P
[11:36] <bungle> not having any luck with it Warbo not to worry
[11:36] <Aeudian> Warbo: thanks
[11:36] <Zarephath> Yeah..not if you want a multi-session disk though...nautlius won't do that
[11:36] <cih997> i'm using Live CD...
[11:36] <Warbo> bungle: Well, if I had my way then sound previews not working would be a major feature enchancement for Nautilus :)
[11:36] <beerockxs> then just use nautilus to burn data to a cd
[11:37] <bungle> same here Warbo
[11:37] <Warbo> cih997: Is your LiveCD in a different drive to your CD Writer?
[11:37] <cih997> no ;)
[11:37] <scifi> does x-chat clear ur chat sessions from a few minutes ago because i cant seem to scroll up to conversations i had earlier ^^
[11:37] <Warbo> cih997: Well you can't eject the CD while it is running, other than that you would need a lot of RAM
[11:37] <FlannelKing> scifi: it has a buffer size, and you can change the buffer sze
[11:38] <scifi> flannelking: so once its gone i cant read it?
[11:38] <FliesLikeALap> whenever I install a 686  kernel on a computer I have here, the keyboard and mouse stop working, 386 kernels are fine.  This happens on both 5.10 and dapper, any insights ?
[11:39] <cih997> Warbo: I'm going to install Ubuntu on my disk so i'll try nautilus
[11:39] <trainstroker> Can i change my permissions on an NTFS partition. its windows
[11:39] <FliesLikeALap> !tell trainstroker about ntfs
[11:39] <Warbo> cih997: I use Nautilus for all of my CD writing. Even CD images (.iso) have a "Write To Disc" option when you right click them
[11:40] <FlannelKing> scifi: unless you've logged it.  right.
[11:40] <Warbo> trainstroker: As in permission of the disk, or permission of the files? NTFS only has read/write AFAIK
[11:40] <Karisson> anyone know where i can find a list of ubuntu drivers for PCMCIA wireless cards?
[11:40] <cih997> Warbo: that's great :)
[11:41] <trainstroker> warbo: i dunno. when i try to access the partiotion it says that i dont have permission to view the files
[11:41] <FlannelKing> FliesLikeALap: file a bug, or check bugzilla, etc.  Might want to try it with dapper, if it doesn't fix it, you'll definately want to file that as a bug.
[11:41] <FlannelKing> erm, we use launchpad, eh?
[11:41] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering where the default backgrounds are stored?
[11:41] <FliesLikeALap> FlannelKing read my message, I had the same problem with dapper ;)_
[11:41] <rukuartic> !tell karisson about ndiswrapper
[11:41] <FlannelKing> FliesLikeALap: did you file a bug report?
[11:42] <Karisson> rukuartic: already tried it
[11:42] <FliesLikeALap> FlannelKing not yet, I figured I'd ask here first rather than file a bug for something which may be fixable
[11:42] <jadaz87> !tell Karisson about wireless
[11:42] <rukuartic> Karisson: If you go, there's a link to a list of supported hardware and where to find drivers
[11:42] <Warbo> trainstroker: That would be permission for the drive. I thought you meant of the files, as I don't think that you can have owners, groups read permissions (turned off) or execute permissions for files on NTFS partitions
[11:42] <Aeudian> whats the best usnet binary downloader with nzb support?
[11:42] <Karisson> okay, thanks
[11:42] <scifi> flannelking:  where do i increase buffer size?
[11:42] <FliesLikeALap> Warbo that is correct (not being able to have permissions on NTFS)
[11:42] <FlannelKing> FliesLikeALap: eh, if it' just changing the kernel, then I cant see why anything else would need to be changed so you can use keyboard/mouse.  file a bug.
[11:43] <FliesLikeALap> fair enough, will do
[11:43] <FliesLikeALap> whats the URL to the launchpad site?
[11:43] <trainstroker> can i maybe view that partion with sudo?
[11:43] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering where the default backgrounds are stored?
[11:43] <FlannelKing> !bugs
[11:43] <FlannelKing> !bugreport
[11:43] <ubotu> FlannelKing: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:43] <Warbo> trainstroker: You could, but sorting out your automatic mount options (/etc/fstab) would be a more permanent solution
[11:43] <jadaz87> i was also wondering what the command to update all packages was?
[11:44] <FlannelKing> scifi: I don't know, I haven't used xchat... in a good while.  look for a settings/options menu option
[11:44] <FliesLikeALap> jadaz87  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:44] <beerockxs> jadaz87, /usr/share/backgrounds for the default ones
[11:44] <Warbo> jadaz87: sudo apt-get upgrade, if you use dist-upgrade it will mess around with installing and removing packages to make the latest ones work (like if Firefox suddenly needed Epiphany to be removed, although that's a stupid example)
[11:44] <beerockxs> jadaz87, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:45] <ltR20> everytime i install the nvidia drivers i cant boot in X
[11:45] <Zarephath> jadaz87: Some are /usr/share/wallpapers
[11:45] <ltR20> how can i find the logfile to show you guys
[11:45] <beerockxs> !nvidia
[11:45] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:45] <ltR20> i always have to reconfigure the x
[11:45] <beerockxs> ltR20, are you following that howto?
[11:45] <Zarephath> gnome is different..it stores it in a hidden folder under ~/
[11:45] <ltR20> nvidia won't help, yes i did.
[11:45] <jadaz87> what is the difference between upgrade and update?
[11:46] <dooglus> update downloads the list of packages, upgrade downloads and installs the packages themselves
[11:46] <Warbo> jadaz87: Update fetches new lists for apt to look through, upgrade gets new packages to install
[11:46] <Zarephath> jadaz87: Update updates the entries from sources.list in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <Zarephath> The other actually upgrades your software
[11:46] <newbie33> where I can ask newbish questions?
[11:46] <ltR20> beerrocks how do i show you the logfile
[11:46] <Warbo> newbie33: Here
[11:46] <erUSUL> jadaz87: update is for updating the list of packages in the repos. upgrade installs the lastest versions of packages you have instaled by looking at the list update fetched
[11:47] <beerockxs> ltR20, I'm not that knowledgable about nvidia cards, I use an ATI card.
[11:47] <erUSUL> newbie33: here
[11:47] <Zarephath> newbie33: Read tuxmagazine.com for some good information as well
[11:47] <Zarephath> I run nvidia...whats up?
[11:47] <ltR20> Hey
[11:47] <newbie33> mount /dev/hda0 /mnt/fat
[11:47] <ltR20> Zar, I instaled the nvidia drivers and then i cant start X
[11:47] <newbie33> whats wrong?
[11:47] <ltR20> i get an error then i have to reconfigure it
[11:48] <Warbo> newbie33: Well, for one there is no 0 partition :)
[11:48] <newbie33> I want to mount fat32 system disk
[11:48] <newbie33> ok then it could be hda6
[11:48] <erUSUL> newbie33: /dev/hda0 does not exist it is 1,2,3....
[11:48] <newbie33> the error is the same
[11:48] <trainstroker> warbo: how do i go about changin autoboot options
[11:48] <Zarephath> ltR20: Hmmm...did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg?
[11:48] <Warbo> newbie33: use "sudo" in front, then put hda1 or hda2 or something
[11:48] <ricodued> yay :D
[11:48] <newbie33> mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/fat
[11:48] <newbie33> not work too
[11:48] <ltR20> Yes and i'm back in
[11:48] <ltR20> but the nvidia drivers wont install !!!
[11:48] <Warbo> trainstroker: Do you mean the mount ones (/etc/fstab)?
[11:48] <Zarephath> ltR20: I may have the command wrong..but it is close
[11:49] <erUSUL> newbie33: for ex. mount -t auto /dev/hda2 /mnt/fat
[11:49] <trainstroker> i guess yeah
[11:49] <ltR20> Yeah I re-configed it
[11:49] <trainstroker> brb will look for your reply
[11:49] <erUSUL> newbie33: /mnt/fat must exist beforehand
[11:49] <ltR20> how come it's not working
[11:49] <jadaz87> does anyone know where gnome write the config for the defaul background?
[11:49] <Zarephath> Yeah but the directory has to be created first....
[11:49] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ltR20: Are you installing them from the nvidia.com script or from the repository?
[11:49] <newbie33> the /mnt/ dir is empty
[11:49] <newbie33> its fresh install
[11:49] <Zarephath> ltR20: What card is it?
[11:49] <ltR20> PuMp from the repos
[11:49] <rukuartic> newbie33: Are you sure you have the right drive?
[11:50] <ltR20> my drivers were working yesturday
[11:50] <ltR20> i installed it using the easyubuntu thing
[11:50] <newbie33> yes im sure
[11:50] <erUSUL> newbie33: well just do sudo mkdir /mnt/fat or mount in /mnt
[11:50] <ltR20> then i rebooted and everything went wrong
[11:50] <newbie33> mm ok :)
[11:50] <erUSUL> newbie33: like this mount -t auto /dev/hda6 /mnt/
[11:50] <ltR20> i'm using a GEFORCE TI 4800SE
[11:50] <Zarephath> ltR20: did you post the error to pastebin?
[11:50] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ltR20: hmmm... odd, usually the repository version 'just works'
[11:50] <ltR20> how do i get the logfile?
[11:50] <ricodued> How would one go about determining the installed GTK+ version?
[11:51] <Zarephath> ltr20: Just a sec
[11:51] <erUSUL> !info libgtk
[11:51] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ltR20: dmesg
[11:51] <ricodued> Thanks
[11:51] <Warbo> trainstroker: Look through the file /etc/fstab ("sudo nano /etc/fstab") and also in the manual for mount ("man mount") to get all of the options. I think adding the option "uid=yourusername" to the options column will sort it. Then instead of rebooting just use "sudo umount /where/it/is/mounted" then "sudo mount -a" to mount what is in fstab
[11:51] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ltR20: you can use dmesg | tail to shorten the output, if necessary
[11:51] <ricodued> Just kidding, !info libgtk didn't work. Oh well. GUI isn't everything :)
[11:52] <erUSUL> ltR20: look here /var/log/Xorg.0.log (last lines)
[11:52] <rukuartic> ricodued: I stoped using that except for firefox and thunderbird
[11:52] <Zarephath> ltR20: Look in /var/log
[11:52] <ricodued> Gtk+ 2.x? or !info.. ?
[11:52] <ltR20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12567
[11:52] <ScreaminIke> where can i find a working installation of lilypond? the one in the repositories is messed up.
[11:52] <rukuartic> ScreaminIke: Can you get the source? Compile it yourself
[11:53] <ScreaminIke> will it show up in synaptic?
[11:53] <rukuartic> Nope
[11:53] <ScreaminIke> hrm
[11:53] <ScreaminIke> how do i build a debian package from it?
[11:53] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ltR20: Okay, you'll have to look at the logfiles for something other than that... those lines are the result of a different bug (ubuntu has trouble recognizing the numlock key, so it generates error messages if numlock is on)
[11:53] <ScreaminIke> (from source, imean)
[11:53] <Zarephath> ltR20: Looks like you have a problem with the keyboard for some reason...are you using a language other than enlglish?
[11:54] <ltR20> no
[11:54] <Warbo> ScreaminIke:  Checkinstall once you have the source (probobly from their website)
[11:54] <rukuartic> ScreaminIke: No clue... I just ./configure && make && checkinstall
[11:54] <Zarephath> Well did you try the command to see what you get?
[11:54] <Zarephath> It is in the pastebin
[11:55] <Zarephath> 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:55] <scifi> i have a folder called "ffsettings" that has appeared on my desktop during updating firefox, what shall i do with it? dont really want i there :P
[11:55] <ScreaminIke> thanx, all
[11:55] <Warbo> scifi: Is it from an Ubuntu package???!!!
[11:55] <deflux-> What is the right way to remotely log into a xdmcp-enabled host from ubuntu?
[11:56] <FlannelKing> deflux-: you can do it from the login screen
[11:57] <scifi> warbo: i dont know, it appeared while doing the backu firefox settings commands i ran as shown on wiki
[11:57] <scifi> backup*
[11:57] <Zarephath> ltR20: You want a copy of my xorg.conf to look at?
[11:57] <GTX> Is there anyone here which is kind enough to see why my iptables configuration ( http://www.proupload.com/uploads/1145521713.txt ) isn't allowing me to send or receive emails to the internet or localy :\
[11:57] <ltR20> K
[11:57] <Warbo> scifi: Well if it is only a backup then you can safely move it to a suitable folder (I would put it in /home/chris/Files/System/Storage, but I'm far too organised :))
[11:58] <nflamel> anybody knows if there's any problem with coreutils in dapper drake
[11:58] <nflamel> ?
[11:58] <FlannelKing> nflamel: #ubuntu+1 will get a better response
[11:58] <ltR20> PUT IT IN Pastebi
[11:58] <nflamel> FlannelKing, ok, thankyou
[11:59] <scifi> ok done