[22:01] <sladen> mdke et al;  UIFe Wallpaper time: bug #833990 (default wallpaper, slightly tweak from previous version that shouldn't affect documentation or screenshots) + bug #829213 (community wallpapers;  not set by default, only potentially visible in screenshots of Apperance control panel, where they are interchangable with any other selection)
[22:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 833990 in ubuntu-wallpapers "UIFe: Incremental tweaks to default wallpaper for Ubuntu 11.10" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833990
[22:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 829213 in ubuntu-wallpapers "FFe+UIFe: Upload Oneiric Ubuntu 11.10 wallpapers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829213


[19:34] <ajmitch> morning
[19:54] <snail> mōrena koutou
[19:55] <chilts> morning
[23:00] <ibeardslee> morning


[05:47] <cpaelzer> good morning (or whatever applies to you)
[05:47] <cpaelzer> could I ask for soem extra space in https://launchpad.net/~paelzer/+archive/ubuntu/bug-1832622-qemu-spectre-ppc/+packages
[05:48] <cpaelzer> I realized that four qemu builds seem to really exceed the limits oO
[05:48] <cpaelzer> 2G ->30G should make a new upload fit
[05:48] <cpaelzer> as 4 qemus currently are at 16.8G
[05:50] <cpaelzer> Actually I think I can just use another PPA for now, might be even better
[05:50] <cpaelzer> if you haven't started yet feel free to ignore the request to increase the size
[05:55] <wgrant> Done anyway
[05:55] <wxl> when i run `a2x --format manpage` in eoan, everything works fine, but it seems to fail in validating the intermediate xml file with `xmllint` though running this manually again on my own machine doesn't produce the same problem. what am i missing? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/437902372/buildlog_ubuntu-eoan-amd64.compton_7.3-0ubuntu1~ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[05:57] <wgrant> wxl: Consider updating your build scripts to not use --noout so you can see the actual error and work out what's different in your local environment.
[05:58] <wgrant> e.g. it's possible you have extra DTDs installed locally
[05:58] <wgrant> s/possible/very likely/
[05:58] <wxl> ok let me see if i can figure something out
[05:59] <wgrant> Should be reproducible in sbuild locally
[05:59] <wxl> i got to figure out how to set options for xmllint
[05:59] <wxl> (through a2x)
[06:30] <wxl> wgrant: i took a slightly different approach and checked which packages i have manually installed that have installed to /usr/share/xml and i've got docbook-xml, docbook-xsl, and libdbus-1-dev. that last one is a build depend of the package i'm working on, so that's not it. is it likely that those docbook packages are the problem???
[06:31] <wgrant> wxl: That's not really something we can help with directly
[06:31] <wgrant> You'll need to test
[06:34] <wxl> wgrant: one thing: are recommends installed by default with dependencies?
[06:36] <wxl> build dependencies i mean
[06:36] <wgrant> wxl: They're not. If you check the build log you'll see them listed in apt output, not in the to-be-installed section
[06:37] <wxl> that should get me there. thanks!
[07:05] <wxl> phew finally got it. thanks again
[09:43] <cpaelzer> There are currently 13 UFW tests on http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running#pkg-ufw; all are stuck on "Test get_netfilter_capabilities() ..." in the "build-needed" stage. This will not recover due to bug 1840633. It would be great if someone could cancel them. FYI: Since I don't exactly know who can do this I posted this on multiple channels.
[14:07] <ricotz> cjwatson, hi :), looks like the ppa publisher needs a kick ;)
[14:08]  * ricotz thinks it was already kicked and is already crawling through the backlog


[12:14] <kbrooks> cbx33: pete :P
[12:15] <HedgeMage> hi kbrooks
[12:34] <jcar> ahoy!
[12:42] <HedgeMage> hi
[12:44] <jcar> hey HedgeMage :)
[12:44] <HedgeMage> what's up?
[12:45] <jcar> just got home a short while ago. it's good to be back.
[12:48] <HedgeMage> :)
[05:07] <linux_user400354> kturtle is awesome
[06:30] <Flashq009> hello
[06:31] <Flashq009> anyone awake in here?
[06:36] <Flashq009> has anyone here have good experience with edbuntu?
[06:36] <Flashq009> edubuntu
[10:41] <xbl> good day!!
[10:41] <HedgeMage> hi there :)
[10:41] <xbl> have just intalled edubuntu 6.06
[10:42] <HedgeMage> cool :)
[10:43] <xbl> just want to ask, why can't the video players output sound?
[10:43] <HedgeMage> hmmm... which player(s) and what type of sound file?
[10:43] <HedgeMage> I haven't had that problem
[10:44] <lucasvo> xbl: you mean on a client?
[10:44] <xbl> tried totem(totally it can't play the vcd),kaffeine,Gxine(last two has no sound output...)
[10:45] <xbl> lucasvo: I now at home and using a standalone pc..
[10:45] <lucasvo> xbl: do you hear the systemsounds?
[10:46] <xbl> lucasvo: yes sir...
[10:46] <lucasvo> xbl: can you play an ogg file in any of these players ?
[10:47] <xbl> lucasvo: yes sir...
[10:47] <xbl> lucasvo: is this a codec problem?
[10:47] <lucasvo> xbl: does it work with other vcd files?
[10:47] <lucasvo> do you know how the vcd file was encoded?
[10:48] <xbl> lucasvo: sir its not a file... its actually vcd....
[10:48] <lucasvo> vcd ?
[10:48] <lucasvo> a videocard?
[10:48] <xbl> lucasvo: no, a VideCD
[10:48] <xbl> lucasvo: no, a VideoCD
[10:49] <lucasvo> xbl: maybe the sound is encoded in mp3 which means you have to install mp3 codecs
[10:49] <lucasvo> !restrictedformats
[10:49] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <xbl> also music players can't play mp3 files...
[10:49] <xbl> except for the mpg321 player...
[10:50] <lucasvo> xbl: in that case, the url above will help you
[10:50] <lucasvo> (the one from ubotu)
[10:50] <xbl> ahh ok...
[10:51] <xbl> sir another question? can I use mpg321 codec to other players ?
[10:51] <lucasvo> I don't know
[10:51] <lucasvo> try asking in #ubuntu
[10:59] <xbl_> sorry, got disconnected...
[11:00] <lucasvo> 10:51 < xbl> sir another question? can I use mpg321 codec to other players ?
[11:00] <lucasvo> 10:51 < lucasvo> I don't know
[11:00] <lucasvo> 10:51 < lucasvo> try asking in #ubuntu
[11:04] <xbl_> thanks po...
[11:06] <xbl_> another is about scribus on edubuntu... can't type letters, I can only type numbers on the text frame....
[11:06] <HedgeMage> sorry folks, I'm falling asleep at the keyboard here.
[11:07] <HedgeMage> be back tomorrow
[12:46] <pips1> hi ogra
[12:46] <ogra> hey
[12:46] <pips1> did you have a good time in paris?
[12:46] <ogra> busy
[12:46] <pips1> yeah, I would have thought so :-)
[12:47] <pips1> when did you get back? did you have time to recover a bit yet?
[12:47] <ogra> and we werent in paris ... it was an airport hotel 30km away from paris and ~10km away from the ariport in the middle of nowhere
[12:47] <pips1> I just learned about that 5 mins ago on planet...
[12:47] <pips1> doesn't sound very nice at all...
[01:02] <jsgotangco> hello
[01:02] <ogra> heya
[01:02] <jsgotangco> ogra!
[01:02] <jsgotangco> are you back home?
[01:03] <ogra> back in my old house, just waiting for some people to look at it and than i'll head for my new house ... another 300km ...
[01:03] <jsgotangco> heh i just arrived a few hours ago, i almost missed my flight at schiphol because the cdg flight was delayed
[01:03] <jsgotangco> i ran
[01:05] <ogra> but you made it :)
[01:05] <jsgotangco> 16 hours heh
[01:06] <ogra> it took me way more that the estimated 4h as well ... but thats because i drove sladen through half of belgium :)
[01:06] <jsgotangco> lol
[01:07] <jsgotangco> but ive had enough of 16 train rides
[01:07] <ogra> yeah
[01:40] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: are you back home?
[01:41] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: yeah i just had dinner i had a very long flight
[01:42] <jsgotangco> the first thing i did was eat real food
[01:43] <highvoltage> heh. my father just asked me what i want to eat tonight.
[01:43] <highvoltage> last night i landed at about 21:30, then went to a 21st and only got home about 1am
[01:43] <jsgotangco> i had to run through schiphol to catch my plane home, my air france flight was badly delayed for almost an hour
[01:44] <jsgotangco> do you have pictures posted?
[01:44] <highvoltage> when i woke up just now i thought it must be something like 9am. i got a bit of a shock when i saw it was 13:30 :)
[01:44] <jsgotangco> yeah same here
[01:44] <highvoltage> not yet. i ran out of space on my web server :(
[01:44] <highvoltage> but i'm going to delete some older photos and other junk
[01:44] <jsgotangco> i slept for a few hours before having dinner
[01:44] <highvoltage> and resize the pictures. people can always contact me if they want bigger ones.
[01:44] <jsgotangco> i kept on taking pictures i forgot that i dont have pictures of myself
[01:45] <highvoltage> i think i have a bunch of pictures of you. rodrigo and Laser_away and I took a lot of pictures of each other, so that we can swap.
[01:46] <highvoltage> our wifes/girlfriends/mothers, etc won't forgive us if we return without pictures of ourselves in paris :)
[01:46] <jsgotangco> heh i have a picture of myself at the eiffel that's proof
[01:50] <highvoltage> cool. that's more or less the most important proof that you'll need :)
[02:24] <highvoltage> hmmm.. well, i think he should be home by now. perhaps he's sleeping.
[02:24] <jsgotangco> hopefully paris didn't leave a bad taste in him
[02:25] <highvoltage> i think it might have hey :/
[02:25] <highvoltage> but i'm sure he'll recover from it.
[02:31] <paolob-parroquia> Hi ogra!
[02:32] <paolob-parroquia> ogra, is edubuntu different from ubuntu regarding rsync? I have a backuppc server that can't backup from a edubuntu client, while it backs up from the ubuntu one.
[03:07] <jsgotangco> good night
[03:07] <jsgotangco> need to sleep some more
[09:03] <highvoltage> hey HedgeMage
[09:03] <highvoltage> do you know how I can check who signed my pgp key?
[09:04] <HedgeMage> gpg --list-sigs keyid
[09:06] <highvoltage> thanks :)
[09:07] <HedgeMage> np
[10:22] <bddebian> Hello
[10:23] <highvoltage> hello :)
[10:26] <mhz> highvoltage: hey!
[10:31] <mhz> highvoltage: why is -es with no Topic?
[10:37] <highvoltage> mhz: no idea. i thought you would know if anyone would :)
[10:37] <mhz> highvoltage: hehehe
[10:37] <mhz> I thought you would know :D
[10:37] <highvoltage> i'm not even sure if that channel is registered, is it?
[10:37] <mhz> yup
[10:37] <highvoltage> mhz: how did FET go?
[10:38] <mhz> it just finished 2 hurgs ago, for me
[10:38] <mhz> hours
[10:38] <mhz> I am in th process of understanding and analizing
[10:39] <mhz> it went well because some objectives were met
[10:40] <mhz> bad because i was supposed to be part of a team
[10:40] <mhz> but the "official team" was not really present
[10:40] <mhz> obviously, the unofficial team (some volunteers) did a great job
[10:40] <highvoltage> how many people attended?
[10:41] <highvoltage> nice, it's great to have good volunteer participation.
[10:41] <mhz> i have not made calculations yet, but I'd say about 90 people
[10:42] <mhz> how did paris go?
[10:42] <highvoltage> who made up most of those people, educators, doe? 'normal people'?
[10:42] <highvoltage> it went well, i'm trying to blog about it, but don't know where to start :)
[10:42] <mhz> people trying to understand how FLOSS can be a biz and educators
[10:43] <highvoltage> any people from the departments of education?
[10:43] <mhz> yup
[10:43] <highvoltage> how did the sponsors feel, will FET 2007 happen?
[10:43] <mhz> and from a11y org.
[10:43] <mhz> yup, afaik.
[10:44] <mhz> but there are some serious things I have to decide
[10:44] <mhz> because as you all know, FET has been my idea for quite sometime
[10:44] <mhz> but, one of the sponsors decided to register the name
[10:45] <mhz> obviously, withour even letting me know about it
[10:45] <highvoltage> geez
[10:46] <mhz> there have been many details of such kind
[10:46] <mhz> so, even if 07 happens... so far, I am very frustrated
[10:47] <highvoltage> *sigh*
[10:48] <mhz> but well, yeah... /me shighs too
[11:22] <Didius> Hi
[11:23] <mhz> highvoltage: BTW, joselecaros has been one of the few who was ALWAYS 100% helping
[11:26] <Didius> Question: I've started making a physics programm, in Java. I would like it to become open source when it's done.
[11:26] <Didius> 1) is Java a good language for open-source projects
[11:26] <Didius> 2) should I distribute it at edubuntu.org?
[11:27] <mhz> Didius: well,
[11:27] <mhz> java is always interesting
[11:28] <Didius> ok that's good
[11:28] <mhz> however
[11:28] <mhz> if i were you
[11:28] <mhz> I'd ask in #ubuntu-dev
[11:29] <Didius> ok, I will, thnx
[11:29] <mhz> no problem,
[11:30] <mhz> Didius: also, ogra highvoltage are programmers and have worked in dev areas
[11:30] <mhz> they may be able to answer the question
[11:31] <Didius> another question, Several months ago i asked if there was any programm like this for edubuntu/ubuntu, http://www.crossteccorp.com/netopschool/
[11:31] <Didius> Then i was told there was something like that in development. Is it done already? or still being developped?
[11:39] <mhz> hmm, Didius
[11:40] <Didius> project unknow? :D
[11:41] <mhz> very cool
[11:41] <mhz> afaik, ogra is/was working on something like that
[11:41] <Didius> no idea?
[11:41] <Didius> ah
[11:41] <Didius> are they still or is it abandoned?
[11:42] <mhz> i dont think they'd abandon such and ide
[11:42] <mhz> a
[11:42] <mhz> it is just that I dont know the current status
[11:42] <Didius> ok, no problem
[11:43] <Didius> thnx for the help.
[11:43] <Didius> sweet dreams, bye