[15:09] <mhall119> nhaines: is msm sending you tables cloths or banners?
[20:11] <nhaines> mhall119: no, I already have the secondary Ubuntu California tablecloth and banner in my possession.
[20:18] <mhall119> nhaines: ok, I'll find out where they're being sent, maybe just to the hotel under my name
[20:20] <nhaines> Hm, when msm asked if I needed tablecloths or banners I said no, but that was like two weeks ago.  :)  Still, I'm not sure if our primary ones are being sent down and we can definitely use one for a second table, so that's good news.


[10:03] <samba35> after create openvswitch with ovs-vsctl how to same the switch permanetly ,so after reboot dont have to create switch again
[11:52] <weedmic> Am I correct that gnutls28 has nothing to do with ssh (and cannot affect it)?
[12:07] <andol> Assuming that we are talking OpenSSH, no. Might possibly exists other ssh implimentation which relies on gnutls.
[12:37] <weedmic> thought so, ty
[14:34] <d43mon> u
[14:34] <d43mon> sry, wrong chat


[00:00] <ahoneybun_> how do I find the ubuntu package names>
[00:03] <darkxst> use apt-file
[00:04] <darkxst> apt-file find gobject-introspection-1.0.pc
[00:04] <ahoneybun> I did not get anything darkxst
[00:04] <darkxst> you may need to `apt-file update`
[00:04] <darkxst> first
[00:05] <ahoneybun> I did not see anything past replace with ubuntu packages not pkgconfig names
[00:05] <darkxst> <darkxst> use apt-file
[00:05] <darkxst> * ahoneybun<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-gnome
[00:05] <darkxst> <darkxst> apt-file find gobject-introspection-1.0.pc
[00:06] <ahoneybun> command not found
[00:06] <darkxst> install it then!
[00:07] <ahoneybun> running update
[00:12] <ahoneybun> ok done
[00:13] <ahoneybun> oh I see what does .pc mean
[00:13] <darkxst> that is the data file for pkgconfig
[00:15] <ahoneybun> think I will upload the text to pastie and show you?
[00:15] <ahoneybun> think I should>
[00:17] <ahoneybun> http://pastie.org/8990078
[00:17] <ahoneybun> that is the control
[00:19] <darkxst> completely remove the vcs lines
[00:20] <darkxst> make sure to update the versions as listed in configure.ac
[00:20] <darkxst> i.e. libgtk-3-dev (>= 3.11.5)
[00:21] <ahoneybun> ok done
[00:22] <darkxst> you will need to add run-time depends (gir1.2-*) for a few things
[00:22] <darkxst> run `grep -h imports.gi * | sort -u` in src/
[00:23] <darkxst> anything listed there that is not a build-dep will need the gir1.2- package
[00:25] <ahoneybun> http://pastie.org/8990088
[00:25] <darkxst> so 'imports.gi.Soup' will need gir1.2-soup-2.4
[00:26] <ahoneybun> so gir1.2* on anything import?
[00:27] <ahoneybun> this is depend? not a build depend?
[00:27] <ahoneybun> goes under depend then?
[00:27] <darkxst> yeh, down the bottom with the other gir1.2's
[00:29] <ahoneybun> gir1.2-pango ?
[00:29] <darkxst> gir1.2-pango-1.0
[00:31] <ahoneybun> gir1.2-gtk-3.0  ?
[00:31] <darkxst> yes
[00:31] <ahoneybun> what about gobject
[00:32] <darkxst> also add the two telepathy
[00:32] <ahoneybun> k
[00:32] <darkxst> I think gobject  would get pulled in my gir1.2-glib
[00:34] <ahoneybun> gdk as well?
[00:35] <ahoneybun> only gdk and gio are left
[00:35] <ahoneybun> if glib pulls gobject
[00:37] <darkxst> gio will come from glib also
[00:38] <darkxst> gdk will come from gtk
[00:38] <ahoneybun> so we are good there
[00:39] <darkxst> delete all the old changelog, you just want one entry "Initial Packaging"
[00:40] <darkxst> use dch --create
[00:42] <ahoneybun> installing devscripts
[00:42] <darkxst> also debian/copyright will need to be updated
[00:42] <darkxst> there is quite a bit of stuff in there that does not apply to polari
[00:43] <ahoneybun> yea I have had some exp with copyright
[00:45] <ahoneybun> did the changelog
[00:46] <darkxst> once that is done, create source package with 'debuild -S'
[00:46] <darkxst> then test build with pbuilder
[00:47] <ahoneybun> trying to find the info about the copyright
[00:48] <darkxst> all js source will be GPLv2
[00:48] <darkxst> and just grep code for copyright holders
[00:49] <darkxst> lib/* seems to be LGPLv2
[00:49]  * ahoneybun forgot a lot of info
[00:50] <ahoneybun> damn can't remember where in the code is that
[00:51] <darkxst> licensecheck will tell you license on files (but won't work with .js files)
[00:52] <ahoneybun> licensecheck random files
[00:52] <ahoneybun> ?
[00:52] <darkxst> copyright will be listed in the header for each file, `grep -R Copyright src/*`
[00:53] <ahoneybun> I see
[00:54] <ahoneybun> it did read on js file
[00:54] <ahoneybun> one
[00:55] <ahoneybun> so what do I need to remove
[00:55] <ahoneybun> http://pastie.org/8990131
[00:57] <darkxst> remove the MIT, BSD and CC-BY Files
[00:58] <darkxst> remove Files: libgd/*
[00:59] <ahoneybun> http://pastie.org/8990136
[01:06] <darkxst> ahoneybun, you need License text for LGPLv2
[01:07] <darkxst> lib/*  Copyright (C) 2013 Red Hat, Inc.
[01:09] <ahoneybun> http://pastie.org/8990150
[01:09] <darkxst> and add a 'Files: *'
[01:09]  * ahoneybun is really trying to use Web the browser but it has some problems with login to sites
[01:09] <ahoneybun> ?
[01:09] <ahoneybun> wheer
[01:09] <ahoneybun> *where
[01:10] <ahoneybun> to the lib*?
[01:10] <darkxst> before lib
[01:11] <ahoneybun> ok
[01:11] <darkxst> Files: *
[01:11] <darkxst> Copyright: 2013 Red Hat, Inc.
[01:11] <darkxst> License: GPL-2+
[01:11] <ahoneybun> can I remove this 'Files: ltmain.sh' ?
[01:12] <ahoneybun> oh does that cover all those js files in src?
[01:13] <darkxst> tes remove the ltmain one
[01:13] <darkxst> yes
[01:14] <ahoneybun> ok
[01:15] <ahoneybun> does 'Files: *' cover all those js files in src?
[01:16] <darkxst> yes
[01:17] <ahoneybun> cool
[01:17] <ahoneybun> anything else?
[01:17] <darkxst> that is probably all
[01:18] <ahoneybun> so debuild?
[01:18] <darkxst> debuild -S
[01:18] <darkxst> then build source package with pbuilder
[01:19] <darkxst> debuild -S -us -uc (if you don't have gpg keys setup)
[01:19] <ahoneybun> does it matter what directory I am in?
[01:19] <ahoneybun> on
[01:19] <darkxst> run from polari/
[01:20] <ahoneybun> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -S failed
[01:23] <darkxst> logs? it will tell you why, also its best not to use that since you can't properly check build-deps with dpkg-buildpackage
[01:24] <ahoneybun> use what
[01:24] <ahoneybun> thats what it did when I ran debuild -S
[01:25] <darkxst> ah ok then
[01:25] <ahoneybun> http://pastie.org/8990169
[01:25] <ahoneybun> oh
[01:25] <darkxst> dpkg-source: error: syntax error in polari-3.12.0/debian/control at line 32: continued value line not in field
[01:25] <ahoneybun> yea
[01:27] <ahoneybun> dpkg-source: warning: can't parse dependency libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.39.0)
[01:27] <darkxst> also package version (in changelog) should probably be: 3.12.0-0ubuntu1~trusty1
[01:27] <ahoneybun>        libtelepathy-glib-dev
[01:27] <ahoneybun>               gjs
[01:27] <darkxst> you are missing a comma!
[01:27] <ahoneybun> 2
[01:28] <ahoneybun> dpkg-source: error: source package name 'Polari' is illegal: character 'P' not allowed ?
[01:29] <ahoneybun> fixed
[01:29] <darkxst> should  be lowercase
[01:30] <ahoneybun> dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream
[01:33] <darkxst> possibly you need to create a .orig.tar.xz link
[01:35] <ahoneybun> echo '3.0 (native)' > debian/source/format
[01:35] <ahoneybun> fixed that
[01:36] <darkxst> no don't do that
[01:36] <ahoneybun> oh
[01:36] <ahoneybun> welll
[01:36] <darkxst> that is not correct in this case
[01:36] <ahoneybun> I made a polari_3.12.0-0ubuntu1~trusty1.tar.gz
[01:36] <darkxst> you create a link polari_3.12.0.orig.tar.xz
[01:37] <darkxst> to the upstream tarball
[01:37] <ahoneybun> oh
[01:37] <ahoneybun> I see
[01:37] <ahoneybun> ok I have a package named polari_3.12.0-0ubuntu1~trusty1.tar.gz
[01:38] <ahoneybun> and source.build, .dsc and source.changes files
[01:38] <darkxst> ok so build it with pbuilder
[01:39] <ahoneybun> just pbuilder?
[01:39] <darkxst> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[01:39] <darkxst> but basically, 1. sudo pbuilder create
[01:40] <darkxst> then you can run `pbuilder build polari*.dsc`
[01:42] <ahoneybun> I see
[01:42] <ahoneybun> I'm running the 1st one now
[02:08] <ahoneybun> how do I install depends
[02:08] <ahoneybun> E: pbuilder-satisfydepends failed.
[02:09] <ahoneybun> how do I install the depends
[02:15] <ahoneybun> darkxst, it is not installing the depends
[02:15] <darkxst> send me a zip of your debian/ folder
[02:16] <darkxst> ahoneybun, oh and you probably need to tell pbuilder about gnome3-staging ppa
[02:16] <ahoneybun> o
[02:16] <ahoneybun> h
[02:16] <ahoneybun> yea must be looking in official repos
[02:18] <ahoneybun> how do I tell it>
[02:19] <darkxst> there is a config file at ~/pbuilderrc
[02:20] <darkxst> OTHERMIRROR="deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3-staging/ubuntu trusty main"
[02:21] <darkxst> and then: sudo pbuilder update --override-config
[02:21] <ahoneybun> can't find that file
[02:24] <ahoneybun> got it
[02:28] <ahoneybun> still failed
[02:29] <ahoneybun> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1773AF13B1510FD?
[02:29] <ahoneybun> maybe this?
[02:44] <ahoneybun> darkxst, still failing
[02:46] <darkxst> add `ALLOWUNTRUSTED=yes` to the config file also
[02:47] <ahoneybun> still gives me the gpg error
[02:52] <darkxst> did you run: sudo pbuilder update --override-config
[02:52] <darkxst> again?
[02:53] <darkxst> you must run that anytime you change pbuilder config file
[02:53] <ahoneybun> yes
[02:55] <ahoneybun> http://pastie.org/8990292
[02:57] <darkxst> maybe try  sudo pbuilder update --override-config --allow-untrusted
[02:58] <darkxst> or you can try pass in your users keyring with --keyring ~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
[02:58] <ahoneybun> is this important W: /home/aaron/.pbuilderrc does not exist
[02:58] <ahoneybun> I: Upgrading for distribution saucy
[02:59] <darkxst> you are running trusty right?
[03:00] <ahoneybun> yea
[03:00] <darkxst> missing pbuilderrc doesnt matter if you are using /etc/pbuilderrc
[03:02] <darkxst> you probably need to force dist to trusty
[03:03] <darkxst> and run pbuilder create again with '--distribution trusty'
[03:26] <ahoneybun> damn still
[03:26] <ahoneybun> different message but still same end error
[03:27] <ahoneybun> wait do I need to install these packages myself or will pbuilder pull them
[03:28] <darkxst> pbuilder pulls them in
[03:28] <darkxst> other (easier) option is just upload to your launchpad ppa
[03:32] <darkxst> make sure to set gnome3-staging of a dependency on the ppa however
[03:32] <ahoneybun> upload
[03:33] <darkxst> dput ppa:<launchpad_id> polari_*.changes
[03:35] <darkxst> but first edit ppa dependencies via the web
[03:40] <ahoneybun> got to setup a opengpg first
[03:55] <darkxst> ahoneybun, and/or just send me the debian/ folder
[04:10] <ahoneybun> darkxst, will do in the morning
[04:12] <darkxst> ok
[04:20] <ahoneybun> darkxst, https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B6zAAODZFwQ2bjU4UzA2bmMtcDg
[04:21] <darkxst> that doesnt work... permision denied
[04:23] <ahoneybun> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6zAAODZFwQ2bjU4UzA2bmMtcDg&usp=sharing
[04:23] <ahoneybun> bbl
[04:29] <darkxst> ahoneybun, you need to watch of tabs vs spacing, indentation is a bit mixed up in control
[04:45] <darkxst> ahoneybun, you need to watch of tabs vs spacing, indentation is a bit mixed up in control
[04:45] <darkxst> also you will beed to use a real email address in the changelog
[07:23] <darkxst> ricotz, debian didnt bump mutter packaging ;(
[07:23] <darkxst> should we unbump it?
[07:26] <ricotz> darkxst, hi, they bumped it but since the skipped 3.10 they are one behind
[07:26] <ricotz> darkxst, and no we *can't* unbump it
[07:27] <ricotz> i guess we could convince debian to bump it again to get in sync with us
[07:30] <darkxst> ricotz, ah I see
[07:31] <darkxst> bigon, ^
[07:31] <ricotz> i pinged ah
[07:33] <darkxst> ricotz, now that we have a packageset that actually has some packages in it (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/trusty/ubuntugnome) you should apply for upload rights ;)
[07:33] <darkxst> still needs some tweaking though
[07:47] <ricotz> darkxst, pushed the package-name fix to debian
[07:47] <darkxst> ricotz, thanks
[09:49] <chiefw0tj> Greetings all!
[10:35] <SixedUp> 3
[12:34] <odla> hi, i am looking to install ubuntu gnome and i'm wondering if i i should install 13.10 or just install 14.04 since it's so close to release date. any suggestions?
[12:36] <mgedmin> I'd go with 14.04, help the testing efforts
[12:36] <odla> ok, so beta2 would be the one to go with then?
[12:40] <mgedmin> yes
[12:40] <mgedmin> (you could also try a daily build, if you want to help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing more than you want to have a working ubuntu)
[12:41] <mgedmin> (I haven't tried either, unfortunately)
[12:43] <odla> ok will i will give ubuntu 14.04 a spin and see if i can install it
[12:43] <odla> i mean i will
[12:44] <majod> odla: im currently on 14.04...i think its ok to use it
[12:44] <odla> i suspect it is. i've been running debian testing and i imagine by now ubuntu 14.04 it probably at least as stable if notmore
[12:45] <majod> i have some annoying issues but im sure they will be resolved until final release
[12:46] <mgedmin> what issues are those?  /curious
[12:46] <majod> mgedmin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1278467
[12:51] <majod> also font in ubuntu software center is corrupted when item is selected, not sure if the default theme is bad or what...
[14:31] <mefesto> hello all. i just updated my ubuntu gnome 13.10 (x86_64) system which included what looked like every gnome package plus linux kernel update. I rebooted my system after the update and now my wacom cintiq won't calibrate correctly. when using the stylus the point hugs the right side of the screen no matter where I place the stylus. it seems to move along the y-axis correctly but the x-axis seems to be locked to the screens width.
[18:38] <ahoneybun> hey darkxst were you able to get the debian/ for polair?
[18:38] <ahoneybun> *polari
[18:44] <odla> is it a bug that i can't minimize my windows with super + H in 14.04?
[18:59] <ahoneybun> odla, you have to change the shortcut to that
[18:59] <ahoneybun> it is like cntrl+shift something
[18:59] <ahoneybun> by default
[19:00] <odla> it that a gnome thing or a change? i thought it was super + h?
[19:00] <ahoneybun> not sure I know it was not super+h by default in 14.04
[19:01] <odla> ctrl+alt+0 doesn't work to hide the window here
[19:02] <odla> but changing it to super + h does
[19:20] <odla> is zeitgeist suppose to allow searching in the gnome overview? it works on debian and fedora but it doesn't seem to work here.


[17:11] <mordoc_ab> kltrg: Here's the basics of the alsa/mpd stuff. It might be the lead to streaming other stuff: http://www.htpcguides.com/create-an-mpd-music-server-on-debian
[17:11] <mordoc_ab> kltrg: This probably isn't what you are after sounds like pulseaudio streaming is what you are after.
[17:12] <kltrg> mordoc_ab, Streaming everything I would hear if sitting in front of the server, that is what I want, yes.
[17:12] <[Roman]> could someone help me?
[17:13] <ducasse> kltrg: from what i can tell, pulse is the only way to do that. is the pulseaudio service running?
[17:13] <kltrg> I already followed a tutorial to make PulseAudio stream through the network but since it didn’t work, I thought, I had to get the basics running locally first-
[17:14] <kltrg> ducasse, I can’t find it in top. But if I "sudo service pulseaudio start", I get a message telling me the service is already running.
[17:15] <[Roman]> hello?
[17:16] <kltrg> Could all this be due to me logging of and back in not rebooting? When I logged off using the graphical thing, my VNC session got stuck and I had to start a new one (maybe it’s like shutting down the computer).
[17:16] <ducasse> kltrg: this might be the same problem as shutdown. if systemd sees you're not logged in to a "local seat", there are certain things it will not allow. my guess is that documentation on pulse network streaming would cover this.
[17:16] <kltrg> I’ll reboot and be right back.
[17:19] <kltrg> I now have sound locally.
[17:20] <mordoc_ab> kltrg: Progress!
[17:21] <kltrg> Now I need to get the network streaming right. Any pulseaudio network nerds here?
[17:23] <ducasse> kltrg: look at /etc/pulse/client.conf - there's a flag; default-server
[17:26] <kltrg> ducasse, I’ll look into the depths of pulseaudio some other day or later. I have to leave now. Thanks, everyone!
[17:26] <ducasse> kltrg: np.
[17:27] <boxmein> anyone here up for a challenge? :P ubuntu 15.04 laptop dropped to initramfs weirdly, here's the end of dmesg in a picture https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22100200/etc/DSC_0108.jpg
[17:28] <BluesKaj> pulse isn't my cuppa tea, my pc and laptop have intel-hda audio which plays nice directly with alsa without the need for PA
[17:28] <xangua> !15.04 | boxmein
[17:29] <boxmein> sorry 15.10
[17:29] <ducasse> BluesKaj: alsa is nice, but he needs to stream all audio to another machine, only pulse can do that...
[17:30] <BluesKaj> ducasse, vlc can as well
[17:32] <ducasse> BluesKaj: not _all_ audio, only files, afaik. or am i wrong?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> ducasse, vlc can stream from a file, disk, network or capture device
[17:34] <ducasse> BluesKaj: interesting. i'll need to look at that, thanks.
[17:37] <BluesKaj> ducasse, pulseaudio has an advantage when streaming and playing from several sources simultaneously, something alsa isn't programed to do as a sound server
[17:38] <ducasse> BluesKaj: i know. i also assume pulse would be easier to set up, but that's just a guess.
[17:39] <PreseedHell> So I'm building my first 2 disk system with a preseed - pxe boot and the second disk format .. is that just not working with 14.04?
[17:40] <le_pig> ^^ nick checks out
[17:40] <BluesKaj> ducasse, yes some soundcard drivers need pulse since their drivers are written rely on it , like my m-audio audiophile 192
[17:41] <PreseedHell> Dose anyone have an actual working preseed that has two lvm disks?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> PreseedHell: have you tried setting one up with one disk.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> PreseedHell: start simple then build up
[17:43] <rodrigo_> hello
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Hi BluesKaj :)
[17:43] <pradeep> hi
[17:43] <PreseedHell> I've done many with a single disk, just trying to add a second now and it seems to be ignored
[17:44] <le_pig> PreseedHell: I've had the same experience as you.  Hoping someone smarter than us knows the trick :)
[17:44] <pidybi> hi all
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> PreseedHell: ah, well at least you have done preseeds and understand that bit etc. It's not something I've done. Sorry
[17:44] <PreseedHell> i was reading that using late command is used, but that's just insane. the preseed should work
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> PreseedHell: try it. If it works then go with it
[17:46] <BluesKaj> Hey ActionParsnip, LTNS ...gotta run, lawnmower awaits ..bb in a few
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Haha
[17:49] <PreseedHell> for some reason my company chose ubuntu over rhel .. beats me
[17:49] <on_my_raspberry> testing LTE speeds in shell session
[17:49] <PreseedHell> kickstart worked great for that, so maybe at some point i could try KS again
[17:51] <do0pa> hey all
[17:52] <do0pa> have issue with nic card, netexreme on a server once in a while ping to a host is lost, while from server to a host is fine
[17:53] <HelpeRx> anyone know if robert love kernel devoment is good or linux programming interface to learn about kernel devel
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> do0pa: are they on the same network segment / subnet?
[17:53] <do0pa> ActionParsnip, yes all same
[17:54] <do0pa> ActionParsnip, ssh is freezing for second when ping to a server is lost :(
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> do0pa: have you rebooted the interconnection device?
[17:54] <do0pa> tryed from multiple host also
[17:54] <ducasse> HelpeRx: ask in ##linux
[17:54] <do0pa> ActionParsnip, before I do that wanted to make sure its not linux box here :)
[17:55] <HelpeRx> cant wont let me send lol
[17:55] <do0pa> also there many ports are in use all fine, ping from other host to gateway and outside all works
[17:55] <Pici> !register|  HelpeRx
[17:55] <do0pa> ActionParsnip, by port mean switch ports
[17:56] <HelpeRx> coool
[17:56] <HelpeRx> thanks
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> do0pa: I'd try it. You could check the output of: dmesg | tail     when it happens
[17:57] <do0pa> ActionParsnip, so its ACPI or something restarts nic ?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> do0pa: could try the boot option: noacpi
[17:58] <Ace> hi
[17:58] <do0pa> dmesg nothing happens there
[17:58] <Ace> help
[17:58] <do0pa> need a min to confirm
[17:58] <crs___> HelpRx: i got the book but did only read few pages.i think the book is quite giod but you need a lot of motivation to read all of it
[17:58] <Ace> i need any hacking channel name
[17:59] <OerHeks> lol @ Ace .. wrong network
[17:59] <Ace> hahaha
[17:59] <Ace> ik
[17:59] <Ace> i cant find lool all bullshit
[17:59] <Ace> i need reeal one
[18:00] <dax> Ace: Too bad, we don't have any. Ask somewhere else.
[18:00] <Guest3605> HI
[18:00] <cscf> Ace, if you're calling it "hacking" you aren't ready for a real one.
[18:00] <cscf> Guest3605, hi!
[18:00] <twowheels> Question about installing to SD card on MacBook Pro (13" non retina) : I booted from a CD and everything seems to be working well except for WiFi (though there are posts about how to fix that, and I have an external dongle that is working great -- worst case scenario)...  I'd like to install to SD, but before I go buy one... is it possible to install to SD without touching the main internal SDD?  Will GRUB be installe
[18:00] <twowheels> d to the SD?  Everything I can find talks about using reFINDit, which I'd rather not do... I'm OK with having to hold Opt and select the SD card when I want to boot Linux.
[18:00] <twowheels> (SDD --> SSD)
[18:01] <OerHeks> twowheels, yes, you are asked where to install grub, standard would be sda
[18:01] <cscf> twowheels, the SD card should show up as a block device, just like HDD or USB.
[18:01] <Guest3605> i know this will sound weird but... do u guys know or some website where i can have train?
[18:01] <twowheels> Great... thanks...  I didn't remember ever having been asked where to install it before, so I thought I'd ask first.
[18:02] <Ace> hacking dosing cracking operating
[18:02] <cscf> Guest3605, you mean like linux tutorials?
[18:02] <Guest3605> nope
[18:02] <Guest3605> i know how to use linux
[18:02] <alocompsci_> Hi guys, Have a question.. I got back my laptop from Lenovo, and I cannot access my Ubuntu partition anymore. (I don't see the grub). I know the windows partition hasn't been extended (because it has the same size I gave it). How can I check if my Ubuntu os (and the files i had) are still there, or if I need to reinstall Ubuntu, without being able to access the partition?
[18:02] <OerHeks> !ot | Ace not here please ,
[18:02] <Guest3605> and i know how to do stuffs
[18:02] <cscf> alocompsci_, boot off a livecd
[18:02] <twowheels> I have installed to SD on an Atom netbook before, and it worked great, but IIRC it put grub on the internal drive -- I didn't really care back then.
[18:02] <Ace> hahah just kidding sorry
[18:02] <Ace> i am out
[18:02] <Guest3605> i need a playground
[18:03] <tgm4883> Guest3605: virtual machine
[18:03] <cscf> twowheels, when you install, just choose manual partitioning, and be sure to put Grub or whatever on the SD card.
[18:03] <niel__> hey there!!
[18:03] <twowheels> @cscf thanks for the tip
[18:03] <cscf> hi niel__
[18:03] <Powerless> how do i install libqt4-core on ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[18:03] <Guest3605> yeah tgm4883 ...didnt think of that
[18:03] <Guest3605> thx
[18:03] <Guest3605> :D
[18:03] <twowheels> I guess I'll order the flush SD adapter.
[18:04] <alocompsci_> thanks cscf.
[18:04] <L0g4nAd4ms> Anybody knows how to get an AMD 390X (= grenada) card working on current linux kernel ?
[18:04] <Guest3605> btw is this the official ubuntu channel or is it for Back Box?
[18:04] <niel__> just cool and hope i'm in right place !!! in blender chat?
[18:04] <cscf> Guest3605, this is #ubuntu, yes
[18:04] <OerHeks> Powerless, it is part of qt4-x11 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/
[18:05] <Guest3605> ok thank you cscf
[18:05] <cscf> niel__, this is #ubuntu support channel
[18:05] <OerHeks> L0g4nAd4ms, what ubuntu kernel? if it is from 16.04, no go. use the open drivers
[18:05] <cscf> niel__, do "/join #blender"
[18:05] <Powerless> OerHeks, how do i install that package?
[18:06] <niel__> ohh fine! then anyone can show me how i can tag someone in this group chat!
[18:06] <L0g4nAd4ms> OerHeks: im talking about the open source drivers. the propriertary is currently no supported on newer x-server versions
[18:06] <OerHeks> Powerless, sudo apt-get install <package> or install synaptic, detailed softwarecenter
[18:06] <L0g4nAd4ms> With the open source drivers the 390X doesnt work.
[18:06] <cscf> niel__, if you say someone's name, like this, they get "highlighted"
[18:06] <OerHeks> L0g4nAd4ms, you would have te open driver as standard
[18:07] <OerHeks> L0g4nAd4ms, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Graphics_and_Display
[18:07] <Powerless> OerHeks, apt-get install qt4-x11 works?
[18:07] <L0g4nAd4ms> OerHeks: the open source driver "radeon" is the issue. the system is not stable.
[18:07] <niel__> cscf ok let me try cscf
[18:07] <OerHeks> Powerless, yes
[18:07] <niel__> not working
[18:08] <OerHeks> L0g4nAd4ms, wait for xorg 1.8 / mesa 11.3, but i have no date when it arrives
[18:08] <L0g4nAd4ms> the system crashes, etc. you cant work currently with "radeon" on a grenada card.
[18:08] <niel__> cscf__, like this?
[18:08] <Powerless> OerHeks, unable to find the package :P
[18:08] <niel__> nooo!!!!!
[18:09] <samolet> здравствуйте
[18:09] <niel__> any way it,s fine!! so anyone who knows how i can get blender 3D in ubuntu?
[18:10] <ramsub07> hello, how do i check the difference in the files present between 2 directories ?
[18:10] <cosmicfires> niel__, ubuntustudio has blender so I assume you can install it on ubuntu
[18:10] <cscf> niel__, you go to Software Center and search "Blender"
[18:10] <cscf> First resulty
[18:10] <cosmicfires> ramsub07, diff -r dir1/ dir2/
[18:10] <niel__> ok! thanks
[18:11] <cosmicfires> diff --brief -r to show only files with diffs not the diffs
[18:12] <OerHeks> Powerless, what if you just try libqt4-core ?
[18:13] <Powerless> OerHeks, did it. i saw that on 16.04 the name is libqtcore4 but it says i already have it so i have no idea why it wont install
[18:13] <cscf> niel__, by the way, your first attempt did highlight me properly.
[18:14] <niel__> cscf awww!! thanks
[18:14] <cscf> niel__, no problem.  Welcome to IRC :)
[18:14] <niel__> cscf how are doing>
[18:15] <niel__> any cool stuff by ubuntu?
[18:15] <cscf> niel__, pretty good.  slow day at work.
[18:16] <niel__> cscf ohh!! me i dont have any job today i'm still learning liinux based courses
[18:16] <Powerless> OerHeks, apparently it is a bug. I'll wait for them to fix it :D thanks
[18:17] <lerner> m locate radiotray < will find the radiotray directory, right?i have a mp4 file, there is a tv icon on the top right part of it. What can I use to delete it?
[18:17] <lerner> disregard
[18:17] <niel__> cscf anyway did virtualbox work correctly on ubuntu?
[18:17] <lerner> I have a mp4 file, there is a tv icon on the top right part of it. What can I use to delete it?
[18:18] <cscf> niel__, it works great, yes.
[18:18] <dury> hi there all :-)
[18:18] <cscf> lerner, the file or the icon?
[18:18] <niel__> cscf good!! just i wanna install kali linux in that stuff
[18:18] <lerner> the icon
[18:18] <dury> which the most stable lts release 14.04.4 or what?
[18:19] <cscf> niel__, after making the VM, go into its settings > networking > advanced , and change the NIC type to "virtio" instead of Intel.  makes networking faster.
[18:19] <OerHeks> lerner, no software for that, AFAIK
[18:19] <cscf> dury, 16.04 LTS is fully released.
[18:20] <lerner> there has to be something that allows me to plant a blank square over the icon...
[18:20] <cscf> lerner, what is wrong with a TV icon?
[18:20] <niel__> cscf ohh!
[18:21] <niel__> cscf where do u stay?
[18:21] <dury> cscf, did try that?
[18:21] <cscf> dury, what?
[18:22] <cscf> niel__, what do you mean?
[18:22] <dury> cscf, if you tried that?
[18:22] <niel__> cscf your country
[18:22] <cscf> niel__, Canada
[18:22] <niel__> dury i have tried it few weeks
[18:22] <cscf> dury, I have tried 16.04, and it has worked fine.
[18:23] <niel__> ohh!! but for me it wasn't fully released
[18:23] <dury> cscf, can it be download minimal *.iso
[18:24] <niel__> cscf why i can't click on settings in vm?
[18:24] <cscf> dury, what do you want that the desktop or server versions don't do?  The minimal is for you to custom build your own version.
[18:24] <cscf> niel__, is it grayed out?  VM has to shutdown before you can change most settings.
[18:25] <dury> cscf, desktop... though
[18:25] <niel__> cscf perhaps because i haven't installed any OS in it?
[18:26] <cscf> niel__, VM settings shouldn't care.  What happens when you right-click on the VM in the menu and click Settings?
[18:28] <dury> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/  good though :-)
[18:28] <niel__> dury do u have 32bit OS/
[18:29] <dury> the machine requires that, anyway!!! do you fancy with google niel_?
[18:31] <dury> niel__
[18:31] <niel__> dury yes i do!
[18:31] <niel__> you too?
[18:32] <dury> not really it's getting to powerful company that doesn't respect the privacy
[18:33] <dury> niel__, see?
[18:33] <dury> niel__, see what I mean?
[18:35] <niel__> dury yes it is
[18:35] <Linnak> Hi, Why gnome-look.org doesn't show up good on Ubuntu? On Windows it's fine but on Ubuntu there are no texts just images
[18:35] <niel__> dury anyway what do u do?
[18:35] <niel__> dury any great job?
[18:36] <Yuri4_> Hi guys, I have an Ubuntu instance running web server on bare metal. I need to migrate all the data so the web app is still functining to another hoster, to VM. What's the best way to do that?
[18:36] <dury> niel__, preparing an old laptop for my cousin
[18:36] <cscf> Linnak, looks fine to me
[18:37] <dury> niel__, not job.... chill out is better I guess though
[18:37] <niel__> durl that's good !
[18:37] <OerHeks> dury, niel__ please move the chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[18:37] <Linnak> http://i.imgur.com/nP8Kfzq.png
[18:38] <niel__> hhhhh! ok
[18:38] <dury> OerHeks, sorry... I promise no more.... don't hesitate
[18:38] <OerHeks> Yuri4_,  backup all data/settings and start a fresh service, restore data and go?
[18:38] <efm> how do I remove Amazon, permanently, from a fresh 16.04 install?
[18:39] <yeats> Linnak: loads fine for me - maybe a FF ad-blocker or other add-on interfering?
[18:39] <OerHeks> Yuri4_, tis page may be an example where files are located https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-back-up-a-lamp-server-with-bacula-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:40] <niel__> emf just uninstall it
[18:40] <BluesKaj> shuttleworth still allowing bloatware on unity, not surprising
[18:40] <Yuri4_> OerHeks, any guides? It's a web server. I will need to set up all the packages dependencies, permissions.
[18:40] <efm> niel__: if you were talking to me, it's not installed as a package
[18:41] <niel__> emf ohh! so?
[18:41] <OerHeks> Yuri4_, just posted an url
[18:41] <Yuri4_> OerHeks, it's for back up. Can I just restore back up on another server?
[18:41] <cscf> efm, by "permanently" do you mean more thoroughly than turning online search off?
[18:42] <OerHeks> Yuri4_, yes, if you have setup lamp on the target machine first.
[18:42] <Linnak> yeats, All addons are disabled http://i.imgur.com/3BlKeof.png
[18:42] <Yuri4_> OerHeks, thanks
[18:43] <efm> cscf: online search is not turned on. I have removed the application icon from the unity launcher, but I cannot figure out how to remove it from the list of suggested applications, because it's not an application (right clicking does nothing except offer to run it0
[18:44] <xangua> What does it run?
[18:45] <efm> xangua: it's a web app
[18:46] <yeats> Linnak: have you tried in another browser?  (I'll suggest chromium-browser available in the Ubuntu repos if you don't have it installed)
[18:51] <teward> is there any documentation anywhere how I can wire up an Ubuntu box with two ethernet adapters to intercept and monitor traffic going from one box to another?
[18:52] <AndChat359961> Do i know u S?
[18:52] <yeats> teward: software-wise, look into wireshark (or its command-line equivalent tshark)
[18:53] <teward> yeats: right, but I mean the networking side
[18:53] <teward> not the software side ;)
[18:53] <teward> yeats: problem is it's not on the same switch, so I can't set up a LAGG / mirror port
[19:04] <boxmein> unetbootin on osx can't find my fat32-formatted usb key
[19:10] <cscf> boxmein, try umounting it, (but not ejecting it)
[19:11] <sauron_> are you still here EriC^^?
[19:11] <EriC^^> hey sauron_
[19:11] <EriC^^> sup
[19:12] <sauron_> i was told in \kubuntu you may be able to help with a grub problem
[19:12] <boxmein> cscf, diskutil unmount?
[19:12] <boxmein> gotcha
[19:13] <ylarson> hello
[19:13] <EriC^^> sauron_: what's the problem?
[19:13] <kriston> Has anyone been able to upgrade to 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS using an offline method where no internet access is available?  I'm aware Ubuntu doesn't want to support this anymore.
[19:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Tried the ISO?
[19:14] <SonikkuAmerica> kriston ^
[19:14] <sauron_> i messed up grub, dual booting with win10, worked fine until i installed another distro, got the minimal-bash grub, tried installing kubuntu over the other distro, same minimal-bash grub, read the package boot-repair might help, heres its output
[19:14] <kriston> SonikkuAmerica: Yes but the ISO upgrade is not supported for Ubuntu Server.  I forgot to mention this is for Ubuntu Server not desktop.
[19:14] <sauron_> http://paste2.org/9O1W2U3c
[19:14] <ylarson> Can I migrate a workstation from NIS to Ldap/sssd (with homedir automount nfsv3) while a graphical user session is opened ?
[19:14] <cscf> kriston, I would seriously recommend doing a fresh install when jumping  that many versions, if possible
[19:14] <sauron_> it said something about efi
[19:15] <ylarson> UID, GID are the same, passwords differs
[19:15] <kriston> cscf: I completely agree.  I'm having a challenge convincing my stakeholders of that unfortunately.
[19:15] <SonikkuAmerica> kriston - an unofficial way would be to edit all the source lists to the correct version and use apt-offline, but it's messy
[19:15] <ylarson> Can I migrate a workstation from NIS to Ldap/sssd (with homedir automount nfsv3) while a graphical user session is opened ? UID, GID, username are the same, only passwords differ
[19:15] <kriston> I've tried a number of different ways of using a locally-installed mirror and copying the changelogs.ubuntu.com to use my local copy but do-release-upgrade still tries to contact archive.ubuntu.com and it's drivng me insane.
[19:16] <EriC^^> sauron_: is uefi turned on?
[19:16] <cscf> SonikkuAmerica, couldn't you set the sources.list to use a 14.04 CD?  That way it would work on CD and upgrade.
[19:16] <SonikkuAmerica> apt-cdrom?
[19:17] <sauron_> i dont think so, unless it turned back on, the only thing ive been doing is changing the boot order, could that be causing it?
[19:17] <kriston> I'm hoping to contact someone who knows someone who has done the offline upgrade using do-release-upgrade on Ubuntu Server.  I am so close but Ubuntu has admitted that they have proactively taken steps to prevent offline upgrading in this way.
[19:17] <cscf> SonikkuAmerica, something like that, but using a 14.04 CD to do the upgrade
[19:17] <SonikkuAmerica> !cd
[19:17] <EriC^^> sauron_: you need it on
[19:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, DVD/USB
[19:17] <sauron_> its in the bios isnt it?
[19:17] <cscf> sauron_, yes, it will be in BIOS settings
[19:18] <sauron_> gonna check it now
[19:22] <Linnak> What do you use for video editing?
[19:23] <lyze> kdenlive for example Linnak
[19:23] <Linnak> Yeah I think that would be the best if it didn't crash all the time
[19:23] <feneco> hi, I can't make a dvd work on ubuntu gnome 16.04, installed restricted extras but still doesn't play
[19:24] <feneco> tried this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/video-dvd-restricted.html
[19:24] <OerHeks> feneco, did you install "sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg" >> Follow libdvd-pkg's instructions to let it download, compile, and install libdvdcss.
[19:24] <boxmein> cscf, still doesn't
[19:24] <OerHeks> feneco, then restart the mediaplayer
[19:24] <feneco> OerHeks: I did
[19:25] <cscf> feneco, did you install libdvd-pkg ?
[19:25] <mordoc_ab> feneco: Does it work in VLC?
[19:25] <OerHeks> feneco, try an other dvd, not all dvd's will play..
[19:25] <feneco> cscf: yes, it showed a screen in the terminal to confirm
[19:25] <feneco> it doesn't work on vlc
[19:25] <feneco> let me try another dvd
[19:26] <jiffe> so I've installed ceph and had it running, on reboot it doesn't seem to be brought up and service ceph start doesn't start it, although service --status-all shows it as active
[19:26] <jiffe> tried a stop/start with no effect, stop shows it inactive and start shows it active but its still not running
[19:26] <feneco> tried another dvd it's not even showing in the system
[19:27] <feneco> this command doesn't work: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[19:28] <JunkHunk> hello I am using xchat2. is there a way to bring up old history?
[19:28] <OerHeks> feneco, that command is for older versions. i have no clue why it doesnt work for you
[19:28] <ylarson> Can I migrate a workstation from NIS to Ldap/sssd (with homedir automount nfsv3) while a graphical user session is opened ? UID, GID, username are the same, only passwords differ. thanks
[19:29] <OerHeks> xchat is no longer under development, i remember that logs are not enabled by default
[19:29] <OerHeks> see the settings for the place of the data, JunkHunk
[19:29] <feneco> http://termbin.com/a4ua
[19:29] <jiffe> how does service --status-all determine if something is running?
[19:30] <feneco> I will reboot
[19:30] <jiffe> daemon_is_running looks like it is checking the pid file but there is no ceph pid file so it can't be that
[19:31] <jiffe> I'm really not liking systemd
[19:33] <jiffe> seems like we're s/fixing/breaking/ things that weren't broke
[19:35] <feneco> didnt help
[19:37] <feneco> :(
[19:37] <feneco> cant watch my dvds on ubuntu
[19:37] <ylarson> Can I migrate a workstation from NIS to Ldap/sssd (with homedir automount nfsv3) while a graphical user session is opened ? UID, GID, username are the same, only passwords differ
[19:39] <reisio> ylarson: mmm, I would assume as per usual it will all work until you end a required process
[19:39] <reisio> it'll all be in memory
[19:39] <reisio> same way you can use firefox after you've uninstalled it... as long as you don't close it or anything it requires
[19:40] <ylarson> reisio: even if UID and GID are the same .
[19:40] <ylarson> ?
[19:40] <reisio> that'd be my guess
[19:40] <reisio> I dare say having a reboot or re-login would be potentially smoother, though
[19:40] <reisio> might talk to #linux
[19:40] <ylarson> reisio: ok thanks :)
[19:41] <reisio> if it's not running something mission critical (which I'm guessing it isn't), then there's no real risk: have yourself an adventure
[19:41] <feneco> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/q0sioodm/
[19:41] <ylarson> reisio: I cannot sent message to #linux, maybe I don't have a registere login
[19:41] <reisio> ylarson: it's actually ##linux
[19:42] <reisio> because freenode is run by clowns
[19:42] <feneco> h3ll
[19:42] <reisio> most IRC clients will redirect for you
[19:42] <OerHeks> feneco, time to install restricted extras .. if that does not help, then that dvd is one of the 0.3% that won't play
[19:42] <ylarson> reisio: I think it's possible, there is no ticket (like kerberos), if ID are the same, I think it must be good
[19:42] <ylarson> ok :p
[19:42] <feneco> OerHeks: i've already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras :(
[19:43] <OerHeks> or load the dvd and wait, sometimes clicking something does this too
[19:43] <fl0k1> Hey i have a question
[19:43] <ylarson> " send to channel" :s
[19:43] <ThisIsWillster> Hello
[19:43] <reisio> ylarson: I think until all the processes already in use are killed, they will work fine the old way; and afterwards only the new
[19:43] <ThisIsWillster> Hey, I need serious help here.
[19:43] <reisio> ThisIsWillster: serious help granted
[19:43] <ThisIsWillster> I have a problem, deep shit.
[19:43] <fl0k1> i have a problem with my wifi driver
[19:44] <feneco> OerHeks: i will try with another dvd now
[19:44] <ThisIsWillster> OK, soon I have a windows 10 PC, it was resetting once and now there's no OS, it will not boot. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 on it. Anny tips?
[19:45] <feneco> only the seinfeld dvd is identified, but doesn't play
[19:45] <feneco> other dvds dont even show the dvd files
[19:45] <ylarson> reisio: I cant send message on ##linux ... So you think, I have to reboot after migrating ?
[19:45] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Can you boot from a USB key, assuming that's how you were trying to install?
[19:45] <ThisIsWillster> No, I can't access the BIOS.
[19:46] <fl0k1> how can i install this: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking/000005511.html drivers?
[19:46] <reisio> ylarson: mmm, you might have to be registered and identified, too: /msg nickserv help register /msg nickserv help identify
[19:46] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: So, just to check; it won't let you get to the BIOS?
[19:46] <reisio> ylarson: I think you can either reboot to make a clean break, or just wait for all processes to end, or just end all processes
[19:46] <reisio> the formermost and lattermost would be most sane, IMO
[19:47] <reisio> the lattermost would be the most efficient, avoiding a reboot, but
[19:47] <ylarson> reisio: ok, thanks
[19:47] <reisio> if it's not a "production" system, avoiding a reboot is not particularly important
[19:47] <ThisIsWillster> Nope, it displays no prompts (F12 for BIOS etc.) Just a blank screen with an ASUS logo slap banng in the middle
[19:47] <reisio> worth a try first, though; they do wear hardware more, reboots
[19:48] <ylarson> reisio: reboot all workstation with a sessions tunning, is not very simply ...
[19:48] <ylarson> runing*
[19:48] <ThisIsWillster> I did create a bootable stick with unetbootin on the Mac, but can't tell it to boot off it, as its scanning for an OS. It's been like this for ages, leave it on and it does the same thing.
[19:48] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Hmm, sounds like our Lenovo's here. While it doesn't display it pressing F1 repeatedly during boot still brings up a BIOS screen though.
[19:48] <reisio> ending all user-related processes would be simpler and better for the hardware, indeed
[19:49] <ThisIsWillster> Kk, I'll try it now (5mins)
[19:49] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: brb myself...
[19:50] <ylarson> reisio: so the better is to migrate at startup : cron @reboot for example ?
[19:51] <reisio> ylarson: avoiding reboots is always better, except when: the effort/time involved in avoiding the reboot is much greater
[19:52] <ThisIsWillster> Tried spamming F12. No good.
[19:53] <ylarson> quelqu'un s'y connait en NIS / LDAP avec automontage des home en NFSv3, j'ai une question pour migrer NIS => LDAP pour savoir si cela peut se faire session ouverte
[19:54] <ThisIsWillster> Tried hitting F1. Has a little ZZZ icon on it but it has turned the computer off.
[19:55] <ylarson> reisio: ok, I chat with you here ;)
[19:56] <ylarson> my english is so bad ...
[19:56] <huuygt77> hi
[19:57] <huuygt77> is anyone here?
[19:57] <huuygt77> r
[19:57] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Makes sense as it's one of those dual function things when it is booted inside the OS. But during boot it did nothing eh?
[19:57] <ylarson> reisio: Process A is lanching using UID/GID provided by NIS, I replace NIS to LDAP (with same UID/GID), process A is impacted ?
[19:58] <ThisIsWillster> Nope. I did try putting the USB in. No luck with that either. Is it a potato then?
[19:58] <huuygt77> this is the first time i have been on irc!
[19:58] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Apparently on the ASUS machines, you are to hit the delete key repeatedly for the bios
[19:58] <ThisIsWillster> Kk, I'll try that
[19:58] <huuygt77> what type of asus? a new one
[19:59] <huuygt77> if it has uefi it will be hard for you
[19:59] <ThisIsWillster> Thank you mordoc®
[19:59] <ThisIsWillster> It worked
[19:59] <ThisIsWillster> In to the bios
[19:59] <huuygt77> good
[19:59] <OerHeks> huuygt77, uefi is no problem
[19:59] <OerHeks> !uefi
[20:00] <huuygt77> ok
[20:00] <huuygt77> uefi is utter rubbish
[20:00] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Other sites are saying that F2 is the key.  Thank you so much I've never got his far
[20:01] <ThisIsWillster> What doo I do now
[20:01] <BluesKaj> you can thank intel for that altho microsoft is to blame as well
[20:01] <huuygt77> yea
[20:02] <huuygt77> wow what a busy channel
[20:03] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: I would check the boot options to see you can set the USB key as a boot option.
[20:03] <ThisIsWillster> Hey <mordoc_ab> what doo I'd do now I'm in the. Bios
[20:03] <ThisIsWillster> Kk
[20:04] <reisio> ylarson: would be nice if there were a clearcut howto on the matter, wouldn't it
[20:04] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Another thing to consider is that you could try a recovery on the Windows 10 install too. I think you press F8 during the boot process.
[20:04] <ThisIsWillster> I'm in a menu, it says BOOT at the top. It has 4 options : Add boot option Select Filesystem Path for boot option and Create
[20:04] <reisio> ylarson: seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[20:05] <jiffe> how does one troubleshoot systemd process startup issues when systemctl status shows Active: active (exited)
[20:05] <ThisIsWillster> Tried resetting. No luck
[20:06] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Wow, not something that I've seen on our machines here. I'd try in boot options and see if USB drive is listed and if you can enable it somehow.
[20:07] <ThisIsWillster> Nope. Closest I can get is BOOT. Add new boot option.
[20:10] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Might want to try the Windows 10 recovery option instead. At least would get you back to a working system while you read up on booting to Linux on this guy.
[20:10] <OerHeks> some bios versions you need to set bootorder(usb) and hdd order, there would appear the usb as device too
[20:10] <huuygt77> hi
[20:10] <coolmadmax> ThisIsWillster, reboot laptop and pres etc to boot menu
[20:10] <huuygt77> windows sucks
[20:11] <coolmadmax> ThisIsWillster, esc
[20:11] <huuygt77> debian or freebsd is better than ubuntu
[20:11] <reisio> good story
[20:11] <nacc> huuygt77: please stay on topic
[20:11] <OerHeks> huuygt77, please keep this channel free for support
[20:11] <huuygt77> okok
[20:11] <huuygt77> bye
[20:11] <dax> toodles
[20:11] <ThisIsWillster> Nope mordoc_ab the F8 thing don't work. ;(
[20:13] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: coolmadmax might on the right idea here. The web says ESC will give a boot menu...
[20:14] <ThisIsWillster> Kk
[20:14] <ThisIsWillster> It doors thanks madmax
[20:15] <mordoc_ab> coolmadmax: Well done sir.
[20:15] <jhinkley> hi, how do I give write permission to an hfs+ external hd
[20:16] <thenickman> hi?
[20:16] <thenickman> !yeap
[20:16] <ThisIsWillster> It did say it wood boot. It didn't. Shall I install it on the boorable USB agaiin?
[20:18] <ThisIsWillster> Oh OK. Soory. Bootable USB is empty. No files :0
[20:18] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: I would.
[20:18] <ThisIsWillster> Kk
[20:19] <ThisIsWillster> So try again with the bootable stick?
[20:19] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: If it completes as it should on your Mac, I think you should see some folders on such on the drive when the process completes. Sorry it's been awhile since I did this on a Mac.
[20:20] <ThisIsWillster> My mistake. I thought it was bootabble :P
[20:21] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Don't be too hard on yourself. I've had mixed results with uNetBootin...
[20:22] <ThisIsWillster> Yeah...cheers m8. Just erased it now.
[20:22] <thenickman> does dd still work for usb imaging?
[20:22] <Threadnaught> do you guys support cub, I would ask in their irc channel but it's a bit empty right now
[20:22] <OerHeks> thenickman, sure, but do perform 'sync' after that.
[20:23] <ThisIsWillster> Lol, watching horrid henry while waiting.
[20:23] <tgm4883> Threadnaught: what is cub?
[20:23] <Threadnaught> tgm4883: cub linux? its based off ubuntu
[20:23] <tgm4883> Threadnaught: oh, then no
[20:23] <le_pig> Isn't cub Chromium?
[20:23] <OerHeks> oh, forks are not supported here, the have their own issues
[20:24] <Threadnaught> I understand, It's just that I have audio problems and based on googling i think ubuntu people have similar problems
[20:24] <ThisIsWillster> Gonna take a while
[20:25] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Sweet, well enjoy the new found freedom of Ubuntu...
[20:27] <ThisIsWillster> Yep love ubuntu more than windows. It just feels relaxing. So seeing as it's free, and my PC Is crying out to me. I'll give it a go. I have also had loads of Ubuntu virtual machines and they're great. So I'll go for it.
[20:27] <tgm4883> Threadnaught: while it's possible, we're not sure what changes cub people have done. That is why we direct you to their channel
[20:28] <Threadnaught> tgm4883: I understand, I'm gonna go shout into an empty channel now
[20:28] <tgm4883> Threadnaught: ok
[20:28] <tgm4883> Threadnaught: seriously though, that is all the more reason to use a well supported distro
[20:28] <whlai> hello all
[20:28] <whlai> need a fireman
[20:29] <jhinkley> hey, I know I am asking again, but how do I grant write permission to an hfsplus external hd
[20:29] <whlai> Here's the story .... Have a drive that had Windows and Ubuntu installed. Ubuntu was acting up so went to do a reinstall. When I did the reinstall, I chose the first option rather than "something else".
[20:30] <jhinkley> i tried to edit /etc/fstab a certain way but to no avail
[20:30] <K-arch> chmod 775
[20:30] <whlai> At this moment, there's only Windows partitions and EXT4 partition that is empty (I deleted contents)
 oh god, so you formatted the whole drive?
[20:30] <whlai> no
[20:30] <jhinkley> i tried to do chmod 777 but that did not work
[20:30] <whlai> Just the partitions where Ubuntu was
[20:30] <whlai> But Grub doesn't have Windows anymore
[20:31] <OerHeks> jhinkley, by disabling journaling, but you don't want that...
[20:31] <whlai> How do I re-add windows to grub
[20:31] <ThisIsWillster> Oh its done
[20:31] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[20:31] <EriC^^> whlai: you might have formatted the efi partition
[20:31] <EriC^^> whlai: are you in ubuntu right now?
[20:31] <mordoc_ab> jhinkley: AskUbuntu has a good deal of entries that might help. Too involved to type it all here...
[20:31] <jhinkley> i hear that you can mount -o force without disabling journaling
[20:31] <K-arch> do            ls -la          and see who has ownership of  the files
[20:31] <whlai> I'm in the installer now
[20:32] <whlai> USB installer
[20:32] <ThisIsWillster> Oh thank you so much
[20:32] <EriC^^> whlai: can you get a terminal?
[20:32] <whlai> with a EXT4 partition available for the Ubuntu reinstall
[20:32] <whlai> sure
[20:32] <whlai> let me finish the reinstall and then I can
[20:32] <whlai> wait
[20:32] <ThisIsWillster> OK just selected install Ubuntu
[20:32] <EriC^^> whlai: is there an efi partition? fat32
[20:33] <whlai> Eric^^: I do not see one
[20:33] <whlai> I have:
[20:33] <OerHeks> jhinkley, no, and askubuntu says either: disable journaling .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/714545/cannot-mount-hfs-partition-on-read-write
[20:33] <OerHeks> but you don't want that.
[20:33] <whlai> sda1 (ntfs) sda2 (ntfs) sda5 (ext4) sda3 (ntfs)
[20:33] <whlai> in that order
[20:34] <K-arch> then do chown  -R you:you the files folder
[20:34] <whlai> sda1 is 104MB
[20:34] <jhinkley> it says user 99 owns it
[20:34] <OerHeks> ( i wouldn't too) so make a ntfs / ext3/4 partition on that drive and share it that way
[20:34] <ThisIsWillster> Mordoc_ab its done
[20:34] <srdjan> Hi. Trying to install kubuntu 16.04 from DVD... the installer makes no mention that it will partition using GPT... is this ok?
[20:34] <ThisIsWillster> Just installing. Thank you so much!!
[20:35] <K-arch> yeah 99 sounds wrong should be like 1000 or 1001
[20:35] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Coolmadmax is the one that deserves the credit. Glad that your to the install point.
[20:35] <whlai> When I do my reinstall, where should I put the boot loader installation?
[20:35] <whlai> just sda?
[20:35] <EriC^^> whlai: /dev/sda
[20:35] <ThisIsWillster> Thanks coolmadmax and mordooc_ab
[20:35] <whlai> kk
[20:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:36] <daniel01> Hi, regarding ubuntu snaps does appimage and flatpak address the same issue?
[20:36] <ThisIsWillster> Just entering WiFi stuff.
[20:36] <K-arch> example is sudo chown  -R k-arch:k-arch folder
[20:36] <whlai> No root file system is defined
[20:36] <coolmadmax> ThisIsWillster, you're welcome
[20:36] <whlai> nm
[20:36] <whlai> fixed that
[20:37] <ThisIsWillster> :)))))
[20:37] <jhinkley> OerHeks, I was looking at this: https://raamdev.com/2008/mounting-hfs-with-write-access-in-debian/0 0
[20:37] <ThisIsWillster> I can now use this damn PC again. Tip for your kids, never buy a Windows PC.
[20:37] <jhinkley> is that not ok
[20:39] <OerHeks> jhinkley, again: there is no way without disabling journaling , so make a ntfs / ext3/4 partition on that drive and share it that way
[20:39] <jhinkley> ok, any quick lesson on how to do that
[20:39] <K-arch>  HFS filesystem <<< that's your problem
[20:39] <jhinkley> yeah
[20:40] <whlai> Alright, how should I install this 14.04 in the free space?
[20:40] <whlai> logical?
[20:40] <whlai> EriC^^?
[20:40] <EriC^^> whlai: yeah
[20:41] <whlai> logical it is
[20:41] <whlai> with a mount point /
[20:41] <whlai> yes?
[20:41] <auronandace> whlai: / is the only mountpoint you need to specify, yes
[20:45] <reokie>  /close
[20:48] <feneco> seems to be an issue with ubuntu only, osx and windows could play my dvds :(
[20:48] <whlai> EriC^^: can you point me to a decent resource to get Windows partition associated with Grub again?
[20:49] <palli_> Good evening.
[20:49] <dewdl> hello
[20:49] <auronandace> !dvd | feneco
[20:50] <OerHeks> auronandace, apt-get install libdvd-pkg seems not to work for him
[20:50] <auronandace> whlai: grub should automatically detect your windows installation and offer it as a boot option
[20:50] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: How's the install going?
[20:50] <feneco> yea :(
[20:52] <feneco> I think I can live with that, no DVDs
[20:52] <CheetahPixie> Just wanted to show dad around Linux a bit
[20:52] <CheetahPixie> "but I will get a GUI, right?"
[20:52] <CheetahPixie> alt+f7
[20:52] <CheetahPixie> "of course you will"
[20:52] <feneco> I will try to purge and reinstall
[20:53] <CheetahPixie> was pretty much trying to demonstrate to old pops that Linux is built on top of the text mode, not just a pure GUI thing like Windows
[20:53] <OerHeks> CheetahPixie, show him alsamixer in terminal  :-D
[20:54] <CheetahPixie> lol
[20:54] <CheetahPixie> I should have
[20:54] <CheetahPixie> (I actually just used the ttys because I fucking loved the hell out of them while programming Java, Python and other stuff for class, and I used it also to test everything, because "everything" was a console program)
[20:55] <dewdl> whats the joke about alsamixer?
[20:55] <CheetahPixie> Volume control via terminal
[20:55] <CheetahPixie> also I know there are terminal audio players
[20:55] <CheetahPixie> welcome new folk
[20:56] <redtuxedocash> does sudo apt-get install and sudo apt install, have the same role and doesn't have any impact anything at all?
[20:56] <OerHeks> redtuxedocash, as of 16.04, no difference
[20:56] <OerHeks> you still can use them both*
[20:56] <CheetahPixie> That reminds me, how do I access a non-booted partition's recycle bin?
[20:57] <auronandace> CheetahPixie: first you'd need to mount the partition
[20:57] <CheetahPixie> It's mounted.
[20:58] <CheetahPixie> Just don't know where it is.
[20:58] <CheetahPixie> (too used to Debian at this point I guess)
[20:59] <\9> CheetahPixie: mount -l
[20:59] <\9> CheetahPixie: should show it
[21:00] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:00] <CheetahPixie> mmmnope
[21:00] <CheetahPixie> can't see a bin
[21:00] <feneco> is there any other video player I could try isntead of VLC?
[21:01] <CheetahPixie> \9 I am just missing the location of the recycle bin. The partition itself is mounted, and I'm stuck @nautilus
[21:02] <\9> I don't know by heart where the recycle bin is
[21:02] <alpha__> feneco try gnome mpv
[21:02] <alpha__> in the repo
[21:02] <feneco> alpha__: you mean the default video software on gnome?
[21:03] <alpha__> not sure what is default for your installation
[21:03] <feneco> smplayer worked =D
[21:03] <alpha__> atp-get install gnome-mpv
[21:04] <CheetahPixie> oooooooh
[21:04] <CheetahPixie> ~/.trash
[21:04] <OerHeks> oh, so it was a VLC issue, feneco ? :-(
[21:04] <alpha__> *apt-get install gnome-mpv
[21:04] <feneco> OerHeks: seems that on Gnome Videos and VLC it doesn't work
[21:04] <CheetahPixie> wait no
[21:04] <CheetahPixie> doesn't work
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> oor
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> wait
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> i'm dumb
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> fuck you windows for making me ignore the capital T
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> sorry mr T
[21:05] <feneco> OerHeks: I think it's something between the codecs/dvd driver, now it worked on VLC
[21:05] <OerHeks> !language
[21:05] <feneco> i didnt install anything new but the smplayer
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> still no
[21:06] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:06] <m3n3chm0> do you know if jdownloader2 handle torrents ¿?
[21:06] <feneco> but quality is worse than windows mpc-hc and the dvd player on OSX
[21:06] <CheetahPixie> found it
[21:06] <CheetahPixie> ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[21:06] <CheetahPixie> for anyone else wondering
[21:07] <feneco> but I am happy that it worked
[21:09] <henry__> como mapear unidades de red windows en linux?
[21:09] <henry__> how to map network drives windows linux?
[21:10] <auronandace> !samba | henry__
[21:10] <samthewildone> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16746539/
[21:11] <henry__> ok. Thansk
[21:11] <samthewildone> I am unable to run executable even with proper permissions.
[21:11] <samthewildone> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16746539/
[21:12] <samthewildone> dax, well then
[21:12] <OerHeks> grinn, blackbox
[21:12] <samthewildone> OerHeks, :|
[21:13] <samthewildone> OerHeks, I have a lot of computers on my network which start with black.
[21:14] <volumeprobs> Hey everyopne. VLC 2.1.6 on Xubuntu 14.04 having low volume problems only with SOME movies. Music and other movies even of same file type and uploader play fine. The problem movies also play fine on VLC/OSX.Have chekcked and reset system and VLC audi with no change. Problem was duplicated with another Ubuntu based distro Elementary OS on VLC.
[21:14] <volumeprobs> Have to crank system and VLC volume to highest level to barely hear. It's all volume not just a dynamic issue. Same thing happens with SMPlayer and Totem
[21:15] <volumeprobs>  The problem movies play fine on other OS's with VLC or other players
[21:16] <OerHeks> samthewildone,  if you are trying AA, ./run25Assist > https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spiele/Americas_Army/
[21:18] <samthewildone> ...
[21:19] <m3n3chm0> do you know if jdownloader2 handle torrents ¿?
[21:19] <samthewildone> I think I know what problem is .
[21:19] <CheetahPixie> I showed dad alsamixer
[21:19] <CheetahPixie> "i have nothing to do with any of this"
[21:19] <CheetahPixie> oh, how little you know, old man
[21:20] <StNicolas> Another question ... I have a wifi dongle with a RTL 8814AU chipset.  The seller said it was compatible Linux. I haven't found that to be true.  I've googled it, but can't find the driver for this under Ubuntu.  Any takers for the question?
[21:20] <CheetahPixie> Try plugging it in.
[21:20] <CheetahPixie> Does it work instantly?
[21:20] <CheetahPixie> If no, hold on.
[21:21] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: No it doesn't.  That's why I am asking for help
[21:21] <CheetahPixie> Alright.
[21:21] <CheetahPixie> One moment.
[21:21] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: Thx
[21:22] <jarlopez> Is it a faux-pas to cross-post questions on AskUbuntu and StackOverflow?
[21:24] <CheetahPixie> Hmm.
[21:24] <CheetahPixie> I remember encountering something of this sort before.
[21:24] <CheetahPixie> They had a driver on a disk.
[21:24] <CheetahPixie> Did one come with your adapter?
[21:25] <CheetahPixie> It says on realtek.com.tw they have a Linux driver, kernel 2 and 3.
[21:25] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: I saw a mini CD
[21:26] <StNicolas> I think I still have it
[21:26] <CheetahPixie> Insert it.
[21:27] <CheetahPixie> Which is this: USB or PCI device, StNicolas ?
[21:29] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: USB Wifi dongle
[21:30] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: Just found the CD
[21:30] <ubuntuFOLK> Hello. I've gone through the process of installing a partition that wasn't showing. Now how do I make it boot again?
[21:30] <CheetahPixie> Awesome.
[21:31] <CheetahPixie> ubuntuFOLK : If you got something else that can boot into a Linux session and has GRUB, issue grub-update on it and see if it picks up the partition that's not booting. If it does, boot into it, and issue grub-update on it also, see if it finds itself. If it does, it should be solved.
[21:32] <CheetahPixie> StNicolas : Does it have any drivers on it?
[21:32] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: I'm trying to find the CD
[21:32] <mentoc_> is there a setting to use /etc/cron.d/crond instead of crontab -e?
[21:32] <ubuntuFOLK> CheetahPixie, just grub-update? don't I need to do any previous steps like mounting and editing files etc?
[21:33] <mentoc_> cron is ignoring /etc/cron.d/crond
[21:33] <mentoc_> but it honors crontab -e entries
[21:33] <CheetahPixie> grub-update should be enough to *find* a partition from which to boot.
[21:33] <CheetahPixie> and then use GRUB after a reboot to boot into it.
[21:33] <ubuntuFOLK> ok lemme try
[21:34] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: It's a mini CD
[21:35] <CheetahPixie> Yeah?
[21:35] <LTCD> Hey I just installed Tomcat on Ubuntu server within my virtualmachine. I know it's running on port 8080, but how can I get the IP address of the box? :/
[21:35] <CheetahPixie> Didn't you say you found it?
[21:35] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: It's not showing up in "files"
[21:35] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:36] <CheetahPixie> Maybe check check http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=7&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3 ?
[21:36] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: I put the physical CD in the drive, but, unlike most CDs, I don't have a popup and can't find it in a file system
[21:36] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:36] <CheetahPixie> alright
[21:37] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: Not really alright, but I'm trying to find it through software
[21:37] <CheetahPixie> Only thing I can say is check whether the disc has scratches, or rebooting, but that might sound dumb.
[21:37] <ubuntuFOLK> oh, looks like this distro doesn't have grub, I get "grub-update command not found"
[21:38] <CheetahPixie> aww
[21:38] <CheetahPixie> What does it have?
[21:38] <CheetahPixie> LILO? Something else?
[21:38] <ubuntuFOLK> it's ubuntu mate edition
[21:38] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:38] <LTCD> How do I get IP of virtualbox?
[21:39] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: Finally, it showed up
[21:39] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: In which directory should I look?
[21:39] <CheetahPixie> Can you install it?
[21:40] <CheetahPixie> StNicolas: I would suggest searching the entire disc. It might be in some archaic folder.
[21:40] <ubuntuFOLK> CheetahPixie, if last message was for me, what's the name of the pkg?
[21:40] <CheetahPixie> Look around for an .sh file.
[21:40] <CheetahPixie> ubuntuFOLK: I think grub is the metapackage. Try that?
[21:40] <ubuntuFOLK> allright
[21:40] <CheetahPixie> StNicolas: If you find an .sh file, there should be a readme around that folder also.
[21:40]  * ubuntuFOLK installing grub
[21:42] <ubuntuFOLK> is grub-update the same as update-grub? coz the first one returns "command not found" but the second one works
[21:42] <CheetahPixie> Let the latter run
[21:42] <CheetahPixie> see if it pops up with entries for the bootloader
[21:42] <CheetahPixie> if yes, then I mixed the commands up (again)
[21:43] <ubuntuFOLK> no, it only found memtest entries
[21:43] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:43] <CheetahPixie> okay
[21:43] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK:  CheetahPixie  Do *not* install the "grub" package.
[21:43] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: Listen, I have the following directories ... "ASM1042USB3.0", Express to esata","Express to RS232","FL1000USB3.0","NECUSB3.0",two directories that start PCMCIA,"SIL3132","SIL3512",and "VIAUSB2.0"
[21:43] <ubuntuFOLK> Jordan_U, I've already installed it. Why not?
[21:44] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: Because that installs grub legacy,and you want grub2 (which is what Ubuntu comes with by default).
[21:44] <ubuntuFOLK> Jordan_U, should I reboot live cd and start over without installing grub?
[21:45] <CheetahPixie> apt-get install grub2 I guess
[21:45] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: For the moment, I only have USB2.0, but will have a USB3.0 solution Monday
[21:46] <Jordan_U> CheetahPixie: Please stop guessing. If you don't know the answer, no answer is better than the wrong one.
[21:46] <ubuntuFOLK> trying to install grub2 now gives me dependencies conflicts. I'll just reboot and start over. BRB
[21:47] <CheetahPixie> Well, I solved this problem myself a ways back so the answer's probably covered with more rust than a '80something Citroen.
[21:47] <CheetahPixie> StNicolas: Did you find any .sh files, at all, on the disc?
[21:48] <CheetahPixie> If you do find .sh files, there should be readmes in the same folders that tell you what the driver is for.
[21:48] <CheetahPixie> And, without doubt, one of these *should* contain your RTL8814AU.
[21:49] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: The closest I've found is Fedora or SUSE, but there are several directories
[21:49] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:50] <CheetahPixie> You're using a graphical file manager, yeah?
[21:50] <CheetahPixie> Should be a search function in those.
[21:50] <CheetahPixie> Are Fedora and SUSE the only things you see, Linux related?
[21:50] <CheetahPixie> There might be a "generic" directory for these, too, so watch out.
[21:51] <CheetahPixie> Generic ones generally contain bare code that compiles itself into a kernel module at .sh run time and drops it in.
[21:51] <ubuntuFOLK> ok I'm back...
[21:52] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: OK. So to be clear. You have Ubuntu installed but you can't currently boot from it. Correct?
[21:53] <ubuntuFOLK> some ubuntues and a mint install. If I can recover any of them I will be able to recover the otheres on my own.
[21:53] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: OK. What happens when you try to boot right now?
[21:53] <ubuntuFOLK> grub rescue
[21:53] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: I haven't yet found something except a couple versions, apparently, for Fedora (like 4 directories that start with "Fedora..." and as many "SUSE..."
[21:53] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:54] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: Do you see an error message before the grub rescue prompt?
[21:54] <CheetahPixie> What do the Fedora/SUSE directories contain?
[21:54] <CheetahPixie> Packages or source?
[21:54] <ubuntuFOLK> there are one of two lines before the grub rescue prompt. I think it's something like "can't find partition" but don't remember exactly. Should I copy that down now?
[21:55] <ubuntuFOLK> one *or two
[21:55] <Jordan_U> StNicolas: I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope for any "drivers" on that CD. At best you're going to find source code written against an ancient kernel that doesn't compile with a modern kernel.
[21:55] <staeksauce> every time I reboot I have to reset my sound output to my headphones to hear anything, is there a way to make my headphones the default sound output?
[21:56] <StNicolas> Jordan_U: But there must be a solution
[21:56] <CheetahPixie> The madman in me says compile the code blindly
[21:56] <StNicolas> I don't know, but I'll keep searching
[21:56] <StNicolas> thx
[21:56] <ubuntuFOLK> Also, I recently got those partitions to show again in apps such as gparted becuase I only saw unallocated space before
[21:56] <CheetahPixie> The sensible me says look at the link I tossed earlier
[21:56] <CheetahPixie> (which seems to be a fairly recent driver)
[21:56] <CheetahPixie> (and a generic one)
[21:57] <feneco> hi, suddenly my chrome tabs style changed on chrome, did it update for you too?
[21:57] <feneco> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bXD3jmlG/
[21:57] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: How did you "get them to show again"?
[21:57] <ubuntuFOLK> with testdisk
[21:57] <CheetahPixie> StNicolas google + "rtl8814au driver" leads to "realtek.com.tw" on which I spotted a download for a Linux driver for 2.4.x, 2.6.x and 3.x
[21:57] <CheetahPixie> oh
[21:57] <CheetahPixie> he left
[21:57] <CheetahPixie> aww
[21:58] <CheetahPixie> well, i tried
[21:58] <CheetahPixie> thanks Jordan_U for helping out the helpless (me included)
[21:58] <ubuntuFOLK> I could only get some of them to show again, I had so many partitions it was impossible for me to figure the right structyure in testdisk, so I just reenabled the most vital ones (the ubuntues and the mint partition)
[21:59] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | ubuntuFOLK
[22:00] <CheetahPixie> Well!
[22:00] <CheetahPixie> I'm going now.
[22:00] <CheetahPixie> I am on a "borrowed" machine I should be installing 16.04 to...
[22:00] <CheetahPixie> Just got front panel USB working so woo
[22:00] <CheetahPixie> anyway, thanks guys and seeyou
[22:00] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: Please use http://sprunge.us or another service that can give a "raw" plain text link to the RESULTS.txt though. I'm currently using dialup and so pretty much anything more than the text of the paste is going to be too heavy to load reasonably :)
[22:01] <ubuntuFOLK> Jordan_U, ok one sec
[22:05] <ubuntuFOLK> oh how do I use the sprunge?
[22:06] <snfgf> Hello!
[22:06] <dewdl> hi
[22:06] <snfgf> can I enable only certain users to login via ssh using password authentication?
[22:08] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: cat RESULTS.txt | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[22:08] <OerHeks> snfgf, 2 answers, i would make a group, http://serverfault.com/questions/387121/restrict-password-based-ssh-access-per-user-but-allow-key-authentication
[22:09] <snfgf> OerHeks, that sounds like a good idea
[22:10] <ubuntuFOLK> Jordan_U, curl not installed/installable, had to use pastebinit: http://sprunge.us/GIQb
[22:13] <snfgf> OerHeks, so 'PasswordAuthentication no\n Match ssh_users PasswordAuthentication yes'
[22:14] <OerHeks> Match group ssh_users
[22:14] <snfgf> lol, I'm a moron
[22:14] <snfgf> o_O
[22:15] <ubuntuFOLK> I've only got a 500gb hard disk btw
[22:15] <iosah> how can I get the latest VLC on 14.04? Using Software Center and apt-get update it won't go past 2.16 which is quite old
[22:15] <iosah> 2.16 has some issues that I am told are fixed in more current iterations
[22:15] <ubuntuFOLK> "/dev/sdb" is the live usb I'm currently using
[22:16] <snfgf> OerHeks, just a 'groupadd ssh_users', it should not need to be a system group, right?
[22:16] <Conder> hi, i have one small problem, i installed ubuntu to dualboot with win10. after installation i restarted PC but now i cant boot ubuntu. i dont see it in UEFI boot menu
[22:16] <OerHeks> snfgf, yes, a seperate 'system' group
[22:17] <snfgf> OerHeks, that would mean using the '-r' flag? Why a system group rather than a regular group? The only difference it seems is the range from which gid is allocated.
[22:19] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: I don't see any Ubuntu onstallation there so lets move to #grub.
[22:19] <OerHeks> snfgf, good point, systemwide or just local ..
[22:19] <ubuntuFOLK> Jordan_U, but there are ubuntu installs, gparted shows them
[22:20] <OerHeks> snfgf, i assume systemwide
[22:24] <snfgf> OerHeks, worked very well, thank you
[22:26] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: What partition do you think contains Ubuntu?
[22:26] <ubuntuFOLK> I'll tell you...
[22:28] <ubuntuFOLK> there are some ~200mb partitions. Those are boot partitions for various ubuntus.
[22:30] <ubuntuFOLK> BRB
[22:30] <C_minus> haven't been able to use apt-get lately, "...you have held broken packages", I suspect because I blocked several updates for a while. How can I fix this?
[22:31] <OerHeks> without blocked updates, i would say install -f
[22:31] <OerHeks> why block updates, they might have caused your situation..
[22:33] <C_minus> OerHeks kernel updates don't play nice with my nvidia drivers, so I blocked them the last few weeks because I've been too busy to deal with not having a desktop environment.
[22:34] <ubuntuFOLK> I just checked and the error is indeed "no such partition"
[22:42] <mangix>  hello, i have an issue with a CIFS entry in fstab where it prevents shutdown. basically, systemd kills networkmanager and then tries to unmount the CIFS entry. anyone know how to make it unmount before NetworkManager gets killed?
[22:44] <snfgf> I can't seem to kill stopped jobs. '# kill -SIGINT $(jobs -p)'; that should work?
[22:46] <Kenrin> kill 'jobs -ps'
[22:47] <Kenrin> er wait
[22:47] <Kenrin> you need the sig
[22:48] <Kenrin> kill -9 $(jobs -p)
[22:51] <snfgf> Kenrin, Which signal does -9 correspond to?
[22:51] <Kenrin> sigkill
[22:51] <snfgf> It worked, but 'kill -SIGTERM' and 'kill -SIGINT' do not
[22:51] <Kenrin> -15 is sigterm.  Not sure what sigint is
[22:58] <Exagone313> Kenrin: for next time, here a page where you have the list of signals https://bash.cyberciti.biz/guide/Sending_signal_to_Processes
[22:59] <Exagone313> kill -l
[22:59] <ninjah> is there a way to list user information? I
[22:59] <ninjah> I'd like to see things like phone number etc
[22:59] <MonkeyDust> ninjah  that's not appropriate for this channel
[23:00] <ninjah> not for IRC
[23:00] <ninjah> but for a linux system
[23:00] <Exagone313> what information?
[23:00] <Exagone313> hmm
[23:00] <ninjah> when you add a new user to a linux box it will ask for things like phone number.
[23:00] <ninjah> how do you list that info
[23:00] <bazhang> ninjah, memorize your own number
[23:01] <Exagone313> I don't know where it is stored, and if there are commands to list those information
[23:01] <Exagone313> look into that
[23:01] <Ben64> i think you use 'finger'
[23:01] <bazhang> ninjah, sounds like you want to crack or something
[23:01] <ninjah> finger?
[23:01] <ninjah> no
[23:01] <ninjah> no cracking here
[23:01] <bazhang> ninjah, we wont help with that
[23:01] <ninjah> just trying to look up user information on a system
[23:01] <Exagone313> ninjah: see ##linux
[23:02] <Exagone313> ask where it is stored and how to get it
[23:02] <ninjah> I'm just looking for the info you add with the command "useradd"
[23:03] <Exagone313> oops it's #ubuntu here
[23:03] <Exagone313> I thought I was on another channel
[23:03] <Ben64> yep, it's finger
[23:03] <Kenrin> ninjah is trying to finger people ?
[23:03] <Ben64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16749666/
[23:04] <ninjah> Kenrin Ben64 Thanks!
[23:10] <Conder> hi, please can someone help me? i cant boot ubuntu after installation, its not visible in uefi boot menu. boot-repair log: http://paste2.org/1kfzFHtU
[23:11] <OerHeks> Conder, see line 1093 Please disable SecureBoot in the BIOS. Then try again.Do you want to continue?
[23:12] <Conder> i tried it, didnt help
[23:12] <OerHeks> reinstall the grub-efi-amd64-signed of sda5 is needed ..
[23:13] <Conder> how to do it pls?
[23:17] <Extreminador> hi guys i have installed on a friend laptop the ubuntu but i think there is some key being always pressed
[23:17] <Extreminador> since the start of the computer... is there any way to disable that key and any way to know what key is being pressed contantly ?
[23:18] <ziggy_> perhaps he as sticky keys?
[23:18] <ziggy_> try cleaning it.
[23:18] <Gin> I've been looking into exchanging the kernel on installation media for a custom one, the current kernel lacks modules that I require to get WiFi working on a tablet I got laying around. Would love to push those modules into the kernel on the stick. So I get internet access while installing atleast. Is it just a matter of compiling the kernel, and moving the kernel to casper/vmlinuz or do I have to take further steps?
[23:19] <Kenrin> Got to rename it in grub menu too
[23:19] <Extreminador> humm ziggy_ it's weard cause it seems it only happens when computer is botting
[23:19] <sodomy> Hi, got an interesting problem.  I'm trying to enable more console ttys - i've made X11 start on another tty, and configured logind.conf to start more ttys.  But, no matter what I try, it won't start a getty on tty7 - any ideas?
[23:19] <Gin> Kenrin, that is noted, but I assume your thinking it'll work?
[23:19] <Extreminador> i am atm with libreoffice open and no key is being pressed
[23:19] <Guest61626> i'm on a 16.04 live system. why can't i write to my internal drive, but i can to my usb drive?
[23:20] <Kenrin> It should work just fine as long as the compile goes through
[23:20] <Kenrin> I do it all the time at work
[23:20] <Extreminador> but when it's booting sometimes appears ^[[C allot of times others the ubuntu image boot keeps blinking
[23:20] <Gin> Kenrin, great, then I got some hope getting this bay trail monster working. Thanks
[23:21] <Ben64> Guest61626: likely because you don't own the directory you're attempting to write to
[23:22] <Guest61626> is there a way i can temporarily own it like it's my own ~/ ?
[23:22] <Ben64> can you explain exactly what you're doing
[23:23] <Guest61626> my drive containing / died, and i want access to my home folder while i wait for my new SSD in the mail.
[23:23] <Kenrin> Gin: Wait this is for installation not after you install ?
[23:23] <Gin> Kenrin, this is for installation
[23:23] <Kenrin> That is a bit more work
[23:24] <Ben64> Guest61626: you should still be able to access your home directory if your uid is the same
[23:24] <Guest61626> how do I check this?
[23:24] <Kenrin> gin: see this link it'll explain faster than I can type it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94156/installing-with-a-different-kernel
[23:24] <Ben64> Guest61626: mount it, browse to your home directory
[23:24] <Gin> Kenrin, Thanks alot!
[23:25] <Ben64> Guest61626: wait the drive died? how are you accessing it
[23:25] <Guest61626> i have two drives
[23:25] <Guest61626> one was /home and only /home
[23:25] <Guest61626> the one containing /boot and / is dead, and i'm using a live system until my new drive gets here
[23:26]  * Guest61626 prays the uptime gods love me, i've reinstalled chrome three times this week
[23:27] <Gin> Guest61626, How come? I never had chrome crash on me
[23:28] <Guest61626> Gin, i'm using a live system
[23:28] <flymaster> algum brasileiro?
[23:28] <Gin> Guest61626, ah, no persistance? :P
[23:28] <Guest61626> nope.
[23:28] <nacc> !br | flymaster
[23:28] <flymaster> :P
[23:29] <Guest61626> i wondered if it'd be easy enough to just create a new user with a matching name and to remount the drive under /home ?
[23:30] <Ben64> Guest61626: you'd need the same uid, name doesn't matter
[23:31] <Guest61626> is there a way i can see what my uid should be?
[23:31] <Ben64> ls -ln /path/to/your/home
[23:32] <Guest61626>  it says 1000. isn't that root?
[23:32] <Ben64> 0 is root
[23:33] <Guest61626> oh.
[23:33] <Ben64> 1000 is normally the first human user on the system
[23:33] <Guest61626> okay.
[23:33] <Guest61626> so... how do i change my uid to 1000? is this safe?
[23:34] <Ben64> not sure you can on livecd... what is your uid now? "id" to check
[23:34] <Guest61626> 999
[23:34] <Ben64> heh
[23:34] <Guest61626> i don't get it.
[23:36] <Guest61626> what's funny?
[23:36] <Ben64> they set the live user to 999 instead of 1000
[23:37] <Guest61626> is that bad?
[23:37] <Ben64> you can either chown to 999 to get access, use persistence and add a user with uid 1000, or use persistence and add yourself to gid 1000
[23:37] <Ben64> or just use sudo when you want to access something
[23:38] <Kenrin> You can't chroot into the system ?
[23:38] <Guest61626> are there any drawbacks to chown 999?
[23:38] <Kenrin> Oh he only has a home folder
[23:38] <Kenrin> nvm
[23:39] <Guest61626> kenrin, the drive containing / is dead
[23:40] <Guest61626> will chown 999 + mount /dev/sdx /home + logout make make it my new ~/ ?
[23:42] <Guest61626> or should i adduser --uid 1000 --home /path/to/home ?
[23:43] <Perc1val> My wifi connects for 5 minutes then disconnects unless i restart my computer. Thing I found searching haven't helped. Can someone help? I'm on 14.04
[23:44] <Kenrin> Guest61626: either way should work but I'd probably just make a new user to keep it simple
[23:46] <Guest61626> Kenrin, is there anything i should do or avoid when making my new user?
[23:47] <Kenrin> Nah,  just set the uid to 1000
[23:48] <Kenrin> mount your /home/whatever
[23:48] <Kenrin> then don't reboot unless you want to do it over again
[23:48] <snfgf> error: cannot find shared library libevent.2.so.whatever
[23:48] <Guest61626> i know i can't reboot.
[23:48] <snfgf> I have libevent in /usr/local/lib
[23:48] <snfgf> and put a symlink in /usr/lib
[23:49] <Guest61626> trying to figure out how to get nvidia drivers to work without a reboot has been a hassle
[23:49] <Kenrin> 64-bit system snfgf ?
[23:49] <Kenrin>  /usr/lib64/
[23:49] <snfgf> Kenrin, thank you
[23:51] <snfgf> quit
[23:52] <snfgf> :@
[23:52] <alex_fidelis> hello
[23:52] <alex_fidelis> algum brasileiro
[23:53] <alex_fidelis> my niggaz
[23:53] <Kenrin> That was random...
[23:54] <Guest61626> yeah.
[23:56] <Guest61626> so if i wanted to load the proprietary nvidia driver without rebooting, is there anything special i need to do besides kill X, rmmod nouveau and modprobe nvidia then restart X?
[23:56] <Guest61626> the last time i tried this i got a blaze of flying text all over my ttys. where did i go wrong?
[23:58] <Kenrin> Not sure I always drop to shell and apt-get install nvidia-latest
[23:59] <Guest61626> will that work on a live system?