[09:00] <faen> anyone having problems connecting to ftp2.caliu.info
[09:00] <dabar> can you install stuff?
[09:00] <Carolyn> but mind you the settings won't be saved
[09:00] <dabar> we are fine, how are you...
[09:01] <Carolyn> I am pretty good  dabar :)
[09:01] <faen> I can't connect to ftp2.caliu.info nor can I add nooms repository
[09:01] <dabar> good stuff.:)
[09:01] <faen> whyfor, I have no idea
[09:01] <HappyFool> Carolyn: there are other media players besides totem; i doubt you will easily get winamp working on ubuntu (i may be wrong?)
[09:01] <dabar> no reason to anyhow,.
[09:01] <dabar> Carolyn: can you install things?
[09:01] <riv> HappyFool: Yes, I have the intel Express Chipset and about 20 tabs open in the back telling me I want i915 drivers
[09:02] <dabar> From the Internet.
[09:02] <faen> Carolyn, xmms and beep media player are the closest to winamp
[09:02] <dabar> While using the Live CD.
[09:02] <HappyFool> riv: standby
[09:02] <Carolyn> Ive tried to install other stuffs for Mozilla
[09:02] <faen> and a heap better IMHO
[09:02] <leonel> enable universe  and install vlc  it plays  mpg  mov  wmv  and many more
[09:02] <Carolyn> but Mozilla was like Oh your running on Linux CD
[09:02] <dabar> leonel: can they install stuff on the live CD?
[09:02] <Carolyn> what is the totem website?
[09:04] <HappyFool> riv: hmm, well, your card is not (obviously) here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[09:04] <leonel> whoops  I don't know  haven't used  live cds
[09:04] <dabar> Carolyn: google for totem.
[09:05] <riv> HappyFool:  Yes, I was affraid of that.
[09:05] <bender_> sup
[09:05] <HappyFool> riv: hmm, but this says someone got it to work: http://www.linux-laptop.net/hosted/dell-latitude-d410.html
[09:06] <riv> home grown patch
[09:06] <HappyFool> riv: looks like he just had problems with DRI though; i.e., basic stuff worked ?
[09:06] <HappyFool> err
[09:07] <HappyFool> that is, vga out, not dri
[09:07] <riv> well I just found this:  http://sans.nada.kth.se/~orjan/D410.html
[09:08] <HappyFool> do you have a dell d410 ?
[09:08] <riv> no
[09:08] <Carolyn> I've tried to do that
[09:09] <riv> but I do have the intel motherboard
[09:09] <riv> with the express chipset.
[09:09] <Carolyn> it recognizes the Ubuntu and it didn't like the live cd thing
[09:09] <asparagus> how do i make my pcmcia wifi card work on ubuntu on my powerbook?
[09:09] <riv> from gateways website "Intel Extreme Graphics 2 integrated in Northbridge 915GM"
[09:10] <HappyFool> riv: hmm
[09:10] <HappyFool> riv: if that page you posted is correct, you need a pre-release driver from xorg
[09:10] <riv> which, I'm guessing, is what the i915 drivers are for
[09:11] <kootox> I have a problem for my printer someone can help (Espon C20UX which prints white pages)
[09:11] <riv> oh
[09:11] <kootox> ??
[09:11] <darkheart> riv What were you having trouble with?
[09:11] <riv> how does one go about that?
[09:11] <dabar> later
[09:11] <dabar> or actuallty....
[09:11] <Lylat> how to define modprobe.conf?
[09:11] <riv> darkheart: My gateway laptop is not getting into X
[09:12] <chicken_> riv, try reinstalling X
[09:12] <riv> darkheart:and probably needs the i915 drivers.
[09:12] <chicken_> riv, and the X windows manager
[09:13] <HappyFool> riv: i'm not sure; i guess you need to get a recent Xorg source, and compile and install it. likely to be complex
[09:13] <riv> mmmm
[09:14] <omp342> ubuntu won't boot =/
[09:14] <chicken_> omp342, why ?
[09:14] <asparagus> how do i make my pcmcia wifi card work on ubuntu on my powerbook?
[09:14] <HappyFool> riv: http://freedesktop.org/Software/xorg
[09:15] <omp342> i followed these steps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriversHowto/ATI
[09:15] <omp342> and rebooted
[09:15] <omp342> and now it wont open
[09:15] <omp342> im using win xp now =/
[09:15] <DekaPink> I tried to show my friend the Ubuntu live CD the other day... She wouldn't have any of it. My other friend and I had to restrain her... lol... but then the CD didn't boot. --; Her CD drive is screwed up and doesn't seem to work. :3
[09:15] <jaqkar> dabar: still here
[09:15] <omp342> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:15] <chicken_> omp342, Does Gnome not start ?
[09:15] <omp342> that actualy
[09:15] <riv> HappyFool: thanks
[09:15] <dabar> ya
[09:15] <Lylat> hello, how to define modprobe.conf?
[09:15] <bender_> whos have driver problems?
[09:15] <jaqkar> dabar: oki im almost ready
[09:15] <bender_> and with what
[09:16] <omp342> when it gets to the part where its supposed to display the login field so i can log in
[09:16] <omp342> it just stays black
[09:16] <omp342> it doesnt show up
[09:16] <kootox> I have a problem for my printer someone can help (Espon C20UX which prints white pages whereas it prints the test page)
[09:16] <chicken_> omp342, ot sounds like you have messed up X try removeing that drive
[09:16] <dabar> jaqkar: what have you done?
[09:17] <bender_> omp342 what is the problem
[09:17] <omp342> k
[09:17] <itay_> hi!
[09:17] <chicken_> omp342, driver*
[09:17] <itay_> I have some problems with the X server, I can't run a few applications
[09:17] <EasterSunshine> if soemthing gets sent to stderr within a bash script, would the script abort?
[09:17] <omp342> bender_, i followed these steps, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and now ubuntu won't work =/
[09:17] <NetGeek> anyone using colony 3
[09:17] <itay_> the error is: couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:17] <bender_> omp342 be a little more vague please
[09:17] <bender_> what is it doing
[09:18] <HappyFool> EasterSunshine: it shouldn't; that should simply send text to the stderr stream
[09:18] <NetGeek> is it safe enough for a non-critical laptop
[09:18] <EasterSunshine> hmm...interesting...
[09:18] <omp342> bender_, when it gets to the area where the login field is supposed to show up, it just stays black
[09:18] <chicken_> omp342, remove the driver, if that don't work reinstall X and the X windows manager
[09:18] <omp342> okay
[09:18] <omp342> ill brb
[09:18] <bender_> omp342
[09:19] <krueger> Ey!
[09:19] <kootox> somebody for my printer problem?????
[09:19] <HappyFool> itay_: if you have an nvidia/ati card, you can try installing the drivers provided by ubuntu
[09:19] <omp342> ya
[09:19] <Carolyn> I want to see if Winamp does stuff
[09:19] <bender_> re run the x config
[09:19] <bender_> that will get your basic X back
[09:19] <itay_> HappyFool, I already did it.
[09:19] <bender_> then work from there
[09:19] <HappyFool> Carolyn: winamp is for windows, not linux, unless I'm wrong
[09:19] <omp342> how do i do that? :D
[09:19] <bender_> you can get winamp for *nix
[09:19] <Carolyn> Well it didn't seem to complain yet
[09:19] <chicken_> @bender_ ooops i forgot about that lol
[09:19] <Velox> Hello...I recently came in with the GRUB problem, well I loaded up the LiveCD, will I be able to fix it from here?
[09:19] <bender_> omp342 hold one sec so i can make sure i give you the right command
[09:19] <Carolyn> probably is for windows
[09:20] <HappyFool> itay_: if you run 'glxinfo|grep direct' in a terminal, what output do you get?
[09:20] <omp342> ok
[09:20] <CyberMad> ok brb
[09:20] <omp342> and if it matters, i have the amd64 version
[09:20] <Carolyn> certainly doesn't hurt to try
[09:20] <CyberMad> test the apt-get
[09:20] <bender_> xorg right omp342
[09:20] <itay_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:20] <itay_> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[09:20] <omp342> that's probably why the driver didnt work
[09:20] <ifr> Hi, what was the way to see what programs are using a particular mounted drive, if you want to umount and get the message that it's busy?
[09:20] <omp342> ya
[09:20] <OwnageLinux> yo
[09:20] <itay_> I got the first error a lot of times
[09:20] <bender_> omp342 xorgconfig
[09:20] <OwnageLinux> guys do u no how to get wine to work?
[09:20] <HappyFool> itay_: if you run 'glxinfo|grep direct' in a terminal, what output do you get?
[09:20] <chicken_> ifr, fs ?
[09:20] <omp342> ok
[09:21] <CyberMad> damn... it's work dude
[09:21] <omp342> thanks
[09:21] <CyberMad> yudi@earth:~$ sudo apt-get install crossover
[09:21] <CyberMad> Password:
[09:21] <CyberMad> Reading package lists... Done
[09:21] <itay_> HappyFool, I wrote it, here it is again:
[09:21] <bender_> omp342 lemme know if it works
[09:21] <ifr> chicken_ sorry, uh, what?
[09:21] <dabar> Carolyn: you need to learn how to install things in ubuntu/debian.
[09:21] <HappyFool> itay_: hmm
[09:21] <HappyFool> ok
[09:21] <CyberMad> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:21] <CyberMad> E: Couldn't find package crossover
[09:21] <omp342> okay
[09:21] <itay_> HappyFool, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:21] <itay_> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[09:21] <chicken_> ifr, type fs in a terminal
[09:21] <OwnageLinux> anynone know how to work wine?
[09:21] <ifr> The  drive I'm trying to umount is a samba fs drive
[09:21] <ifr> Ah.
[09:21] <ifr> nick@un1-dosa:~$ sudo fs
[09:21] <CyberMad> do you know what is keyword for crossover?
[09:21] <ifr> command not found
[09:21] <riv> HappyFool:  This guy says he's just using the kernel driver i915.... where would I find such a think if it exited?
[09:21] <riv> http://rasher.dk/UbuntuOnMyBook255.html
[09:22] <Carolyn> Nevermind
[09:22] <chicken_> ifr, errrm i know it's some thing like that
[09:22] <Carolyn> the Winamp disappeared without a trace
[09:22] <OwnageLinux> how do i get Wine to work?
[09:22] <ifr> are you thinking of df?
[09:22] <bender_> ok im bord. who are the newbletts in here so i can make use of my day by helping other
[09:22] <bender_> s
[09:22] <ifr> That's not the problem - I know what's mounted, I want to know what's using it.
[09:22] <Carolyn> yah thats silly
[09:22] <dabar> Carolyn: you should use synaptic, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto . Then you need to learn how to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto . then you need to learn about mp3 support for Ubuntu linux: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:23] <chicken_> ifr, ahh yea thats it
[09:23] <darkheart> df will just give you disk usage.
[09:23] <HappyFool> riv: the stuff at the top says he has different hardware (i910 / i855GM); anyway, let me see if i have an i915.ko file
[09:23] <ifr> Yes, that wasn't it though, as far as what I needed. Anyone? like a top to show what's using a particular drive? I ps au 'd it but nada
[09:23] <chicken_> ifr, try mount
[09:24] <ifr> chicken_ I think you don't understand my question
[09:24] <ifr> but thanks for trying
[09:24] <HappyFool> riv: ok, i do have one
[09:24] <c0rrupt_> im eating chicken breast
[09:24] <WhyvasMCT> !breezy
[09:24] <ubotu> hmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[09:24] <riv> HappyFool: neat!
[09:24] <HappyFool> riv: that means you do too (or you should)
[09:24] <HappyFool> riv: what does 'lsmod|grep i915' say ?
[09:24] <chicken_> c0rrupt, stop eating me !!
[09:24] <darkheart> ifr I'm not sure what the command is you are looking for (I would like to know also), but are you trying to umount it from within the directory?
[09:24] <Carolyn> Thanks dabar lemme try that out
[09:25] <dabar> yup
[09:25] <HappyFool> ifr: maybe lsof or fuser
[09:25] <dabar> jaqkar: you are not waiting for a reply from me, are you?
[09:25] <OwnageLinux> will someone answer meh?
[09:25] <BockBilbo> whats the best way to install the latest OpenOffice.org 2.0 (1.9.m122) in ubuntu? Get the rpm files from oo.org and make debs using alien?
[09:25] <HappyFool> itay_: hmm. it sounds like you haven't correctly installed the drivers, but i don't know. i thought glxinfo would work, regardless
[09:25] <faen> OwnageLinux, huh?
[09:26] <chicken_> ifr, did you say yoy wanted to unmont some thing ?, look in /etc/fstab
[09:26] <itay_> HappyFool, when X starts I see the nvidia splash screen
[09:26] <Velox> HappyFool: I booted into the LiveCD, can I run grub-install from here and whatever else I need to do to get GRUB working correctly?
[09:26] <riv> HappyFool: it says i915  and drm   i915
[09:26] <HappyFool> eek
[09:26] <darkheart> chicken_ He wants to find out what is using something on the mounted drive so he can stop it to unmount it.
[09:26] <dabar> OwnageLinux: install it.
[09:26] <HappyFool> Velox: you should be able to; those wiki pages should tell you how
[09:27] <faen> bah, apt-get update is hanging..
[09:27] <HappyFool> Velox: you need to do some other stuff (chroot, etc.)
[09:27] <faen> ftp2.caliu.info is down it seems
[09:27] <HappyFool> Velox: you can't just run 'grub-install' -- read those pages
[09:27] <Velox> !grub
[09:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:27] <HappyFool> itay_: hmm. sorry, i'm not sure what the problem is
[09:27] <faen> Err ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-extras Release.gpg
[09:27] <faen>   Could not connect to ftp2.caliu.info:21 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[09:27] <chicken_> faen, ping it to check
[09:28] <riv> HappyFool:  It seems I have them too... now do I get them to be used?
[09:28] <HappyFool> riv: that's kernel level 'drivers' -- there might still be an X problem
[09:28] <riv> oh
[09:28] <chicken_> riv, reinstall X !
[09:29] <faen> no ping reply
[09:29] <faen> hanging
[09:29] <faen> --- ftp2.caliu.info ping statistics ---
[09:29] <faen> 71 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 70000ms
[09:29] <OwnageLinux> dabar: how do i install it...?
[09:29] <HappyFool> riv: hmm, googling for 'ubuntu i915gm' reveals some hits...
[09:29] <Psyco> hi
[09:29] <HappyFool> riv: do you have a 'Gateway M210' ?
[09:29] <Psyco> I have installed mldonkey
[09:29] <krueger> hi
[09:30] <dabar> sudo aptitude install wine.
[09:30] <Psyco> but the list of servers is empty
[09:30] <faen> Psyco, look at the mldonkey homepage
[09:30] <faen> or read the man file
[09:30] <dabar> OwnageLinux: it is in universe, so adding universe to your repositories would be good.
[09:30] <OwnageLinux> when i open the repositories on synaptic and click add it just selects one of the files... its weird
[09:30] <Psyco> however the file servers.ini seems to have the information of the servers
[09:30] <Psyco> ok
[09:30] <dabar> to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto .
[09:31] <zxc2> does anyone else find that ubuntuguide lags like hell?
[09:31] <Psyco> faen, I will
[09:31] <chicken_> zxc2, not if your using lynx
[09:31] <speedy> hi all!
[09:31] <Psyco> thanks for the help, anyway
[09:32] <chicken_> hi
[09:32] <Velox> Okay, mounted up my system and such, chrooted it, now running /sbin/grub-install /dev/hdd says: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:32] <chicken_> can some one tell me the day today i've forgot
[09:33] <Velox> Aug 19th
[09:33] <Velox> Friday
[09:33] <chicken_> woohoo friday
[09:33] <HappyFool> Velox: hmm
[09:33] <Velox> I mounted it under hdd1, so I have the right drive
[09:33] <HappyFool> Velox: does that machine have net access? can you browse the web from it (as it is now) ?
[09:34] <Velox> I'm on the machine now HappyFool
[09:34] <chicken_> i am making a website :P http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:34] <Velox> From X-Chat
[09:34] <riv> HappyFool: GatewayM250
[09:34] <HappyFool> Velox: ok, can you paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ? and the output of 'mount' ? (you can put it on the same page)
[09:35] <Velox> Sure, give me a min
[09:35] <FR500> hello
[09:35] <manish> hi - i'm having the following problem.  I installed vnc yesterday.  And it works ok from the console.  But when I run a vncserver on the machine - and use a vnc client to work - my keyboard settings are all screwed up.  When I first logged on - it gave me a warning that my X settings and gnome settings are different and asked me to choose.  I chose gnome settings.  But the keyboard setting got messed up.  I don't know how to fix this - can so
[09:35] <FR500> does anyone use mergeant?
[09:36] <dabar> no, not even the people that use it.
[09:36] <FR500> uh?
[09:36] <dabar> are you taking a poll?
[09:36] <FR500> no, i need help on it
[09:36] <Velox> HappyFool: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1401
[09:36] <HappyFool> riv: hmm. ok, that doesn't give so many hits on google
[09:36] <dabar> FR500: ask.
[09:37] <omp342> hmm xorgconfig asks me too many complicated questions =o
[09:37] <HappyFool> riv: but people generally don't seem to have problems with the i915
[09:37] <FR500> i try to connect to my mysql server, it works using mysqladmin for instance, but here, when i hit connect it does nothing
[09:38] <dabar> now save that question, and ask later if you dont get an answer now.
[09:38] <FR500> lol
[09:38] <FR500> ok
[09:38] <manish> hi - does anyone know how to fix problems with keyboard settings on ubuntu.  My keyboard works fine on the console - but when use my lptop to vnc to the ubuntu host machine - everything is messed up.
[09:38] <itay> somebody knows how to solve my GLX problem?
[09:38] <riv> HappyFool: ok, so how do I get the i915 drivers?
[09:39] <Seveas> ompaul, ?
[09:39] <dabar> operator status.
[09:39] <ompaul> oped :)
[09:39] <itay> the error is: Xlib:
[09:39] <itay> extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[09:39] <bender_> omp342
[09:40] <bender_> you couldnt figure it out?
[09:40] <omp342> it asked me like 50 questions about my mouse and keyboard and stuff
[09:40] <omp342> and my monitors refresh rate and stuff like that
[09:40] <HappyFool> Velox: hmm
[09:40] <omp342> i dont have that all memorized :D
[09:40] <chicken_> omp342, lol
[09:40] <omp342> should i just reinstall ubuntu
[09:41] <omp342> as i just installed it yesterday
[09:41] <omp342> i have nothing to lose
[09:41] <HappyFool> Velox: what about 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hdd' ?
[09:41] <chicken_> omp342, no lol you will be wateing time
[09:41] <OwnageLinux> lol
[09:41] <chicken_> wateing*
[09:41] <FR500> omp342: what is the isse again?
[09:41] <chicken_> wasteing8
[09:41] <OwnageLinux> adding a repository is confusing
[09:41] <Velox> root@ubuntu:/ # grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hdd
[09:41] <Velox> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[09:41] <Velox> Could not find device for /boot/boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:41] <omp342> isse?
[09:41] <FR500> issue
[09:41] <ompaul> omp342, so get the data stick it in a document and push it onto a piece of paper if that is all you altered, if there is more then maybe yes :) and if you do you can learn more about the install by seeing it for a second time :)
[09:41] <Velox> Ack, oops.
[09:42] <Velox> Sorry about multiple lines.
[09:42] <HappyFool> riv: assuming the i915GM works out-the-box (which it seems to, if these web pages are to be believed), you shouldn't need to do anything
[09:42] <ompaul> Velox, --root-directory=/ might help
[09:42] <OwnageLinux> can someone explain to me how to install wine its way confusing
[09:42] <FR500> apt-get install wine?
[09:42] <Velox> ompaul: Still no dice, Could not find device for //boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:42] <chicken_> OwnageLinux, apt-get install wine
[09:43] <OwnageLinux> how do i do that
[09:43] <chicken_> OwnageLinux, there is also an auto-configure thing some where
[09:43] <ompaul> Velox, hmm let me look at something
[09:43] <kemik> wine-utils
[09:43] <kemik> or wineutils..
[09:43] <Velox> Hmm, in the boot directory I now have a boot folder with a grub folder inside.
[09:43] <omp342> to get wine
[09:43] <dabar> I have xmms-mp4 installed, yet xmms still cant play mp4 files. It kinda ignores that I loaded a file to play at all, since when I press play it asks which file to play, by opening a open dialog.
[09:43] <omp342> wont you need
[09:43] <riv> HappyFool: but I don't see i915 as an option when I configure
[09:43] <omp342> msttcorefonts?
[09:44] <riv> HappyFool: I only see i850
[09:44] <ompaul> Velox, did you try grub-install /dev/hdd ?
[09:44] <asparagus> i need help configuring the pcmcia wifi card on my powerbook, it works but it cant find a signal.
[09:45] <Velox> ompaul: Yes
[09:45] <manish> hi i need some help with my keyboard settings - can someone help me?
[09:45] <ompaul> Velox, and ?
[09:45] <FR500> dabar: asq the question :d
[09:45] <HappyFool> riv: and i810 ?
[09:45] <Velox> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:45] <chickenman> manish, what is you problem ?
[09:45] <FR500> asparagus: try iwlist scan
[09:46] <FR500> asparagus: to see if it can find your ap
[09:46] <ompaul> Velox, please paste the output of /etc/fstab into a pastebin
[09:46] <dabar> FR500: how can I make it play, it is obvious from what I said.
[09:46] <Arnia> Can anyone explain how to install the header files for libpoppler without losing ubuntu-desktop?
[09:46] <manish> my keyboard works fine.  but when i use vnc from the laptop - everything is messed up.  when i did it the first time it said gnome setting and x setting are different and asked me to choose - i chose gnome.  probably should hav chosen x.  now i need to change it back
[09:46] <dabar> ubuntu-desktop is ok to be lost.
[09:46] <ompaul> Velox, and the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:46] <asparagus> FR500, it says interface doesnt support scanning
[09:46] <ompaul> Velox, what operating systems are on that machine?
[09:46] <manish> chickenman:  problem above.  and i don't know how to use X keyboard setting when i vnc to the machine
[09:47] <riv> HappyFool: well, thanks for the help.. I'm giving up for now and getting something to eat.
[09:47] <ompaul> Velox, which partitions are they on
[09:47] <chickenman> manish, errrm try reconfigureing X
[09:47] <Velox> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1402
[09:47] <HappyFool> riv: sorry i couldn't help more
[09:47] <manish> chickenman: how do i reconfigure X?
[09:47] <Velox> ompaul, I have Ubuntu and Windows XP, Windows is on /dev/sda1
[09:47] <Zeroblitzt> OK, I just reinstalled Ubuntu yesterday, and my sound won't work again. I have alsa installed (I think it did it automatically upon installation), but it still wont work. XMMS just scrolls through my playlist really fast until it hits the end.
[09:47] <Zeroblitzt> How can I fix this?
[09:47] <Velox> Ubuntu is on /dev/hdd1
[09:47] <HappyFool> ompaul: see this too http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1401 (Velox's 'sudo fdisk -l' and 'mount')
[09:47] <cyphase> why does ubuntu have trouble declaring it's name to a router?
[09:48] <ompaul> HappyFool, thanks
[09:48] <cyphase> and it goes on and off
[09:48] <chickenman> manish, errrrm i've forgot
[09:48] <cyphase> both my ubuntu machines are only ip addresses to the router
[09:48] <Pogopuschel-> cyphase: what goes on and off?
[09:48] <seife> man
[09:48] <WhyvasMCT> what card do you have cyphase?
[09:49] <seife> i couldnt plug
[09:49] <zoexi> hello, can I get help with brokenn sound?
[09:49] <seife> the disk where i was going to install ubuntu
[09:49] <manish> chickenman:  I don't even have XF86Config in /etc
[09:49] <seife> i unpluged my two HDs
[09:49] <Velox> Heh ompaul.
[09:49] <seife> then pluged my extra one
[09:49] <ompaul> !tell zoexi about ask
[09:49] <manish> chickenman: ubuntu is very different from redhat
[09:49] <seife> IDE1 cable to my HD
[09:49] <Zeroblitzt> Can anybody help?
[09:49] <Velox> sda isn't touched whatsoever...its my NTFS drive.
[09:49] <seife> then i plugged the power cable
[09:49] <zoexi> ask?
[09:49] <seife> and when i turn on the comp
[09:49] <chickenman> what is the command to configure X ?
[09:49] <seife> it says checking NVram
[09:50] <jaqkar> dabar: you still here?
[09:50] <HappyFool> manish: to reconfigure X, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:50] <seife> 125215 OK
[09:50] <seife> and it stops there
[09:50] <dabar> ye
[09:50] <seife> it dont detect the HD
[09:50] <HappyFool> manish: if you want to twiddle a config file, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:50] <Zeroblitzt> OK, I just reinstalled Ubuntu yesterday, and my sound won't work again. I have alsa installed (I think it did it automatically upon installation), but it still wont work. XMMS just scrolls through my playlist really fast until it hits the end.
[09:50] <jaqkar> dabar: still dont wanna ping
[09:50] <Velox> Zeroblitzt: if they're MP3s, do you need LAME?
[09:50] <dabar> whatchu do?
[09:50] <Zeroblitzt> Im pretty sure I already have it
[09:51] <dabar> what did yuou do.
[09:51] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, do you have mp3 support codecs installed ?
[09:51] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: do you here any sounds? e.g., login sound etc?
[09:51] <ompaul> Velox, what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[09:51] <OwnageLinux> i got the wine files... but in the synaptic how do i chose to download them
[09:51] <jaqkar> dabar: changed /etc/network/options and if down/up
[09:51] <Zeroblitzt> HappyFool --> No
[09:52] <chickenman> OwnageLinux, right click on them
[09:52] <Zeroblitzt> I dont have LAME installed
[09:52] <WhyvasMCT> CHICKEN NECKS?
[09:52] <Velox> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1403
[09:52] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: have you checked the mute/volume settings? (double click on the speaker next to the clock at the top-right to check)
[09:52] <Zeroblitzt> Its at the max
[09:52] <Zeroblitzt> 100%
[09:53] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: ok, and not muted?
[09:53] <ompaul> Velox, I was reading that before I checked in the channel :)
[09:53] <omp342> im reinstalling right now =]
[09:53] <zoexi> right then, system sounds play, gnome startup sounds play, audio cds play.  I get no sound out of mp3s or videos.  I play with settings and have no luck.  how can i know what is broken?
[09:53] <Zeroblitzt> nope
[09:53] <dabar> jaqkar: now ip_forward is on...eh?
[09:53] <seife> man
[09:53] <seife> noboy helpsme in this channel
[09:53] <seife> sigh
[09:53] <chickenman> omp342, ubuntu ?
[09:53] <chickenman> omp342, or X ?
[09:53] <jaqkar> dabar: yup
[09:53] <Velox> Heh, I'm totally out of my depth with GRUB.
[09:53] <omp342> ya
[09:53] <omp342> ubuntu
[09:53] <dabar> ok, I am off for now.
[09:53] <dabar> sorry it did not work yet...
[09:53] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: ok, what sound hardware do you have? do you know?
[09:53] <chickenman> omp342, should have reinstalled X
[09:53] <crispin> so, my network card isn't raised on bootup, which package should I raise the bug report against ?
[09:54] <jaqkar> :p
[09:54] <OwnageLinux> chickenman: if they're green or orange does it mean they're d/l ing?
[09:54] <Zeroblitzt> Creative Labs Soundblaster Live!
[09:54] <dabar> :)
[09:54] <dabar> Im a tired maca.
[09:54] <jaqkar> :)
[09:54] <chickenman> OwnageLinux, click the accept button at the top or download or some thing like that
[09:55] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: ought to work, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[09:55] <asparagus> FR500, it says interface doesnt support scanning
[09:55] <ompaul> I just wonder if 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot/grub h0,0' its been a while since I fixed a grub partition (a long while start of 04 iirc
[09:55] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, do you have onboard sound card as well on your motherboard ?
[09:55] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: what does 'cat /proc/asound/modules' say ?
[09:55] <jaqkar> guys dabar helped me to install dnsmasq with dhcp and ipmasq but we cant seem to get the ubuntu box to forward requests
[09:55] <Zeroblitzt> LinuxJones -> yes
[09:55] <Zeroblitzt> HappyFool, one second
[09:55] <ompaul> velox : I just wonder if 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot/grub h0,0' its been a while since I fixed a grub partition (a long while start of 04 iirc
[09:56] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: LinuxJones may be on the right track
[09:56] <Zeroblitzt> knovak@knovak1:~ $ cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:56] <Zeroblitzt> 0 snd_emu10k1
[09:56] <Zeroblitzt> 1 snd_bt87x
[09:56] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, right click the sound icon then go preferences
[09:56] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, select the alsa device and click ok
[09:56] <Kira> Does someone have a recommendation for a PPPoE dialer in Ubuntu?
[09:56] <omp342_> ill be back after i install ubuntu, this laptops battery is going out of charge
[09:57] <Zeroblitzt> o
[09:57] <Zeroblitzt> k
[09:57] <Velox> root@ubuntu:/boot/grub # grub-install --root-directory=/boot/grub hd0,0 Could not find device for /boot/grub/boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:57] <ompaul> Kira, ppp oe and dialer ... emm network or dialer?
[09:57] <dabar> Kira: pppoe does not dial.. use pppoeconf in a termional to set it up
[09:57] <OwnageLinux> the updates after i installed linux took like 2 hours
[09:57] <Zeroblitzt> XMMS is still speeding through my playlist like all hell
[09:57] <Kira> well, I said "dialer" simply for lack of a better word.
[09:57] <HappyFool> xmms needs to be told to use esd; however, i wouldn't worry about that until you can get basic sounds working
[09:57] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, then run gstreamer-properties , select alsa from the list then hit "test" for output sink (the top one)
[09:57] <ompaul> Kira, pppoe - system - settings - networking
[09:58] <Velox> grub-install: Thou dost so wound my Linux.
[09:58] <supernix>  what did they change in the latest kernel image ?
[09:58] <Psyco> hi anyone knows how to load the server list on mldonkey?
[09:58] <ompaul> Velox, what be the stat of the situation now boldrick?
[09:58] <zoexi> failed to construct test pipeline,
[09:58] <Zeroblitzt> hey, it worked I think
[09:58] <Zeroblitzt> my friend IMed me and I got an annoying sound
[09:58] <Kira> So the default install of Hoary comes with the packages to use PPPoE?
[09:58] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, sweet
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> lemme see something
[09:59] <ompaul> Velox, or whatever that characters name was :)
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> yup, works
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> thanks
[09:59] <Psyco> any idea?
[09:59] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, rhythumbox is much better than xmms btw :)
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> Rhythmbox crashed on my before
[09:59] <ompaul> Kira, is your connection to a router at this time?
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> and
[09:59] <Velox> ompaul: The command you gave me (after correcting it to be hd0,0 instead of h0,0) gave me same error.
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> It never loaded my playlists last time
[09:59] <HappyFool> Velox: have you tried the stuff in 'Recovering GRUB manually' on the wiki?
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> I'll give it another try though
[09:59] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, anyway have fun :)
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> thanks man
[09:59] <Kira> ompaul: no, switch
[10:00] <asparagus> i need help configuring the pcmcia wifi card on my powerbook, it works but it cant find a signal.
[10:00] <Velox> HappyFool: I'm going to try that now...well maybe first I should try hd0,1
[10:00] <ompaul> Velox, you know I would leave out that directory info - it is the default
[10:00] <Velox> Since it is on hdd1
[10:00] <chickenman> I am making a text based RPG in C++ :-)
[10:00] <esac> everytime i run apt, i get messages such as "W: couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04_Hoary .....  - stat (2 No such file or directory) .. any ideas ?
[10:00] <HappyFool> no, grub numbers from 0
[10:00] <supernix> Hey why don't they ever release information about what has been fixed or updated for each package they release ?
[10:00] <ompaul> Kira, so just enabling the network interface should work for you
[10:01] <zoexi> can vlc use esd?  i don't see it as an option,  and the gstreamer (multimedia system selector) thing gets no result from alsa or oss
[10:01] <HappyFool> i.e., partition 1 is ,0 -- i'm not sure that /dev/hdd is hd0, though it seems likely, given your menu.lst
[10:01] <ompaul> Velox, yes, in my opinion, I think it is over complicating stuff
[10:01] <supernix> why don't they ever release information about what has been fixed or updated for each package they release ?
[10:02] <Velox> Okay, ran manual install.
[10:02] <chickenman> @supernix, shutup
[10:02] <HappyFool> Velox: no error messages?
[10:02] <Velox> Seems to have worked.
[10:02] <HappyFool> hmm
[10:02] <ompaul> Velox, heh
[10:02] <supernix> chickenman: you need to learn to read you obviously missed the network guidelines
[10:02] <HappyFool> Velox: i guess all you need to do is reboot and see ;)
[10:02] <Velox> Indeed.
[10:02] <Velox> brb
[10:02] <chickenman> supernix, i did ?, oh well
[10:03] <Kira> pppoeconf is asking me whether to check the configuration file for noauth, nodetach, and defaultroute. What are those options? The man page of pppoeconf doesn't mention them.
[10:03] <ompaul> Velox, good luck :)
[10:03] <chickenman> Velox, what was the problem ?
[10:04] <ompaul> Kira, just enable the network card to talk tcp/ip the pppoe stuff should be on the other side of the switch and therefore not your concern (with a bit if luck())
[10:04] <zoexi> LinuxJones: you seem to knnowe things about aaudio output sinks,
[10:04] <zoexi> LinuxJones: could you help me troubleshoot?
[10:05] <sobersabre> is there a way to convert vanilla ooo2 rpm packages into ubuntu (with the proper locations etc. ) ?
[10:05] <Kira> ompaul: that's not the case.
[10:06] <ompaul> sobersabre, use the native ones - you could use alien but why when it has been build for your setop
[10:06] <Kira> ompaul: for me, each machine on my network has to log in (and yes, I get a real public IP for each machine this way).
[10:06] <ompaul> Kira, :)
[10:07] <ompaul> Kira, so are the addresses static or dynamic?
[10:07] <JHK> how is the apt command for application reinstall?
[10:07] <Velox[c] > Bah, didn't work >_<
[10:07] <digitalfox|shed> is there a channel for breezy?
[10:07] <Velox[c] > Meh, I'll just figure out how to use the Windows bootloader.
[10:07] <sobersabre> ompaul, the ooo2 packages for ubuntu are pretty out of sync now: 1.9.122 vs. 1.9.79
[10:08] <ompaul> sobersabre, and there is a reason for needing that small point jump?
[10:08] <sobersabre> I'd like to have a more recent memory eater...
[10:08] <Zeroblitzt> hmm, XMMS still wont play MP3s, even after I sset it to use the eSound output
[10:08] <Kira> ompaul: dynamic
[10:09] <ompaul> sobersabre, you are looking to create more issues for yourself alien is a program that you can use, but if it breaks your box in a bad way so be it
[10:09] <HappyFool> Velox[c] : doh
[10:09] <crimsun> Zeroblitzt: where is it failing?
[10:09] <ompaul> Kira, so just choose dhcp and it should work for you
[10:09] <sobersabre> ompaul, i've never seen a "broken box" by alien, especially such a user thing like office...
[10:09] <ompaul> Kira, please try that and then if that does not work I will do some digging using uncle google
[10:09] <sobersabre> have you ?
[10:09] <noermaen> where can I change the size of the buttons in ubuntu? (Gnome, not KDE)
[10:10] <benplaut> noermaen, it's in the theme, i think
[10:10] <Zeroblitzt> crimsun, it detects the MP3s and lists them all in my playlist editor
[10:10] <ompaul> sobersabre, I have seen stuff not upgradable because of it
[10:10] <Velox[c] > HappyFool: Windows loads okay, so I'll just use its bootloader.
[10:10] <Zeroblitzt> But when I click one it scrolls really fast through the entire playlist until it hits the bottom
[10:10] <sobersabre> ompaul, even after removal ? :)
[10:10] <Fanskapet> yes! DSL! at last! :D
[10:10] <HappyFool> Velox[c] : ok, sorry we couldn't help.
[10:10] <sobersabre> sounds like an urban legend to me ....
[10:10] <crimsun> Zeroblitzt: what about wav files?
[10:10] <chickenman> http://games101.zapto.org   My website ;-)
[10:10] <Zeroblitzt> I dont have any
[10:10] <Zeroblitzt> let me test
[10:11] <supernix> why don't they ever release information about what has been fixed or updated for each package they release ? Come on surely someone else has asked this as well
[10:11] <ompaul> sobersabre, and tracking your distro is tracking your distro, making work for yourself is making work for yourself, however it is free software and I would not do it but you are free to do so :)
[10:11] <Velox[c] > HappyFool: Not your fault, thanks for taking your time to help me. ompaul too =)
[10:11] <crimsun> Zeroblitzt: sure you do. See /usr/share/sounds/
[10:11] <sobersabre> ok i think i got the point, i'lll alienize it...
[10:11] <lorenzo> ewt
[10:11] <Zeroblitzt> ok
[10:11] <HappyFool> supernix: for security fixes announcements are made
[10:11] <sobersabre> i've done that on sarge already.
[10:11] <supernix> ah
[10:11] <apokryphos> supernix: which package? Packages in apt generally use a changelog
[10:11] <noermaen> i know where I can change the themes, but I'm lookin for the config-files where I can change it...
[10:11] <Psyco> please anyone knows how to load the server list in mldonkey ??
[10:11] <supernix> HappyFool: any idea where we can view changes to packages ?
[10:12] <crimsun> supernix: come again? There are links to the changelogs from the Web pages and in /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.Debian.gz
[10:12] <supernix> apokryphos: are you talking about aptitude ?
[10:12] <Zeroblitzt> WAVs work
[10:12] <Zeroblitzt> not MP3s
[10:12] <asparagus> i need help configuring the pcmcia wifi card on my powerbook, it works but it cant find a signal.
[10:12] <crimsun> Zeroblitzt: try installing xmms-mad
[10:12] <supernix> ok see I use synaptic and never see those
[10:12] <apokryphos> supernix: apt/synaptic/aptitude etc
[10:12] <sobersabre> ompaul, but not now, man. i am far too busy...
[10:12] <ompaul> Velox, just wondering if you disconnect the sda for a moment and check it would it work for you
[10:13] <OwnageLinux> what does that mean if u click mark installation on a repository and it becomes green
[10:13] <apokryphos> supernix: actually, not 100% that you can view them in synaptic. I always use KPackage if I ever wanna use a GUI front-end, and that certainly does
[10:13] <Zeroblitzt> crimsun, still no luck
[10:13] <Zeroblitzt> let me try something else, though
[10:14] <HappyFool> supernix: you can find the security-list archive and subscribe info on the ubuntu.com webpage, though you seem to have been given better answers already
[10:14] <chicken[away] > brb every one
[10:14] <Kira> ompaul: I got it working using pppoeconf. :)
[10:14] <OwnageLinux> what does that mean if u click mark installation on a repository and it becomes green
[10:15] <Zeroblitzt> Is there a way to chmod an entire directory and everything under it?
[10:15] <snow> chmod -Rf
[10:15] <snow> Recursive force
[10:15] <HappyFool> OwnageLinux: i think it's just a way of showing that the package has been marked
[10:15] <Zeroblitzt> ok
[10:15] <HappyFool> OwnageLinux: you should also see a yellow arrow on the little square to the left of the package name
[10:16] <zoexi> ok I just made xmms word by changing sound output to 'esound' can anyone tell me if this is possible in VLC?
[10:16] <Zeroblitzt> OK, that was my problem
[10:16] <crimsun> zoexi: install vlc-esd
[10:16] <Zeroblitzt> I was in Kubuntu when  I copied that music, so it was read only for root
[10:18] <ompaul> Kira, great
[10:20] <zoexi> awesome, it works, many thanks.
[10:20] <Kira> Now I need to install drivers and configure my wireless card...
[10:20] <Kira> Except I see this line of command and I'm not sure what the end of it means:
[10:20] <Kira> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:20] <benplaut> Kira, good luck with the wifi... it's a mess in Hoary
[10:21] <Kira> What's that $(uname -r) part about?
[10:21] <HappyFool> Kira: you can install linux-headers-386 instead
[10:21] <benplaut> it makes sure it gets it for your own kernel
[10:21] <HappyFool> Kira: assuming you have a -386 kernel
[10:22] <Kira> Ahh
[10:22] <HappyFool> Kira: it's just the version number of your kernel; type 'uname -r' and see what it outputs. the $() is bash magic
[10:22] <Kira> kewl. :D
[10:22] <k_k> i need a prog for filesharing like dc++ in ubuntu
[10:22] <ompaul> !networking
[10:22] <Velox[c] > Hmm...the Windows bootloader hands off to GRUB or LILO...that doesn't bode well for me :\
[10:22] <ubotu> ompaul: What?
[10:22] <ompaul> !networks
[10:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, networks is Menu item System - Administration - Networking and or it could be sudo pppoeconf
[10:24] <ompaul> !botsnack
[10:24] <ubotu> :)
[10:24] <ompaul> who owns the bot?
[10:24] <benplaut> caf*uego
[10:24] <HappyFool> k_k: 'apt-cache search direct connect' -- maybe dcqui or dcgui-qt are what you want
[10:25] <benplaut> (without the *)
[10:25] <r0bby> x-window-core is needed for correct?
[10:25] <ompaul> benplaut, that for me?
[10:26] <benplaut> yup
[10:26] <ompaul> benplaut, thanks
[10:26] <HappyFool> r0bby: you mean x-window-system-core ?
[10:26] <r0bby> yeh that
[10:26] <r0bby> regardless, it's needed?
[10:27] <HappyFool> if you want a graphical interface, yes
[10:27] <r0bby> also dri drivers, what are they?
[10:27] <HappyFool> i think dri is direct rendering interface; it's for fast 3D graphics
[10:28] <r0bby> but w/o them, the shit won't hit the fan right (sorry language)?
[10:29] <Kira> benplaut: it doesn't seem to be so horrible. The ubuntu wiki has a howto for my WiFi card. :)
[10:29] <ray_> anybody else have problems playing videos after that gnomemedia update?
[10:29] <HappyFool> r0bby: err. you won't get accelerated 3D graphics, if that's what you mean
[10:29] <r0bby> heh okay
[10:29] <HappyFool> r0bby: the basic system will work though
[10:30] <r0bby> that's what I wanted to know
[10:30] <halley> Anyone familiar with dh-make-perl and making .deb packages from CPAN tarballs?
[10:30] <ray_> r0bby, what card you got?
[10:30] <r0bby> I haven't used my ubuntu box locally in such a long time i forgot
[10:30] <r0bby> it's an ATI
[10:31] <ray_> r0bby, setting up ati for 3d is very easy
[10:31] <r0bby> heh yeh
[10:31] <ray_> anybody else have problems playing videos after that gnomemedia update?
[10:31] <ray_> im gonna have to reinstall just to watch videos!
[10:31] <ray_> damnit
[10:31] <samu> is there a quicktime player for ubuntu?
[10:31] <chicken-man> back
[10:32] <HappyFool> !ati
[10:32] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:32] <ray_> samu, yeah you can get mplayer and totem to play quicktime
[10:32] <Kira> !doom3
[10:32] <ubotu> Kira: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:32] <Kira> :(
[10:32] <r0bby> hehe
[10:32] <r0bby> I wasn't asking how to do it
[10:33] <arphetic> how can u see al open connections ?
[10:33] <mobydick> i installed ubuntu in english and i want to change keyboard to turkish c tied from preferences and added turkish keyboard and deleted english but i cant type tukish chareters yet what must i do?
[10:33] <TheGnome> anybody here use the 686-smp kernel?
[10:33] <arphetic> through terminal?>
[10:33] <r0bby> i was asking if it would affect the general x
[10:33] <volvoguy> TheGnome, i do.
[10:33] <TheGnome> r0bby, like how so?
[10:33] <zoexi> what are the plugins to make rythmbox work?  can I apt-get them?
[10:33] <george_> i need aid to install mplayer
[10:33] <TheGnome> volvoguy, have you experienced any problems
[10:33] <george_> and the codecs too
[10:33] <omp342> just finished reinstalling =]
[10:34] <HappyFool> !restricted
[10:34] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:34] <HappyFool> zoexi: read that page; should tell you what to do
[10:34] <volvoguy> TheGnome, nope. not at all. i'm using it on a hyperthreaded P4 and on a true smp machine and it seems to work great.
[10:34] <setite> where do i get xvid plugin
[10:34] <TheGnome> volvoguy, yeah i have a hyperthread p4......but that gnomemedia update broke my system...so im gonna have to reinstall i think
[10:35] <TheGnome> volvoguy, should i use smp on my machine or stick to regular 686
[10:35] <volvoguy> TheGnome, i haven't rebooted yet. i may have that same problem.
[10:36] <volvoguy> TheGnome, i really like the smp kernel, but i haven't done any real benchmarking.
[10:36] <WhyvasMCT> so is breezy really broken or is it safe to install?
[10:36] <divine> a
[10:36] <ompaul> arphetic, a program called lsof - it will produce a lot of information :)
[10:36] <volvoguy> WhyvasMCT, it's pretty broken. i'd only use it if you have a spare machine.
[10:36] <chris> hi... how can i print a file to the shellscreen ?
[10:37] <TheGnome> volvoguy, yeah it sucks....... i cant get ANY videos to have sound......regular sound works....and i had sound in every video..but after that...nope......well im gonna reinstall i will talk to you in a bit
[10:37] <HappyFool> chris: maybe 'cat filename' is what you want?
[10:37] <volvoguy> TheGnome, good luck!
[10:37] <ompaul> arphetic, sorry 'netstat -ar' misread what you wrote
[10:38] <chris> HappyFool: Yes thx
[10:38] <HappyFool> chrs ompaul
[10:38] <setite> how do i find my ip?
[10:38] <chicken-man> setite, ip addr
[10:39] <benplaut> any way to make gaim make meta-contacts?
[10:42] <setite> how do i clear the iptables
[10:42] <Seveas> iptables -F
[10:42] <Seveas> (flush)
[10:43] <pablo928> Can anyine help a Apache newby? I'm trying to change /var/www contents, but I can't. What do I need to do?
[10:44] <EasterSunshine> setite: you can get you global ip `GET www.whatismyip.com | grep Your`
[10:45] <HappyFool> pablo928: what do you mean you can't change the contents? Have you tried using 'sudo' ?
[10:45] <supernix>  ty everyone for your help on the change log and thanks apokryphos for pointing me to kpackage I thought it was just for rpm files.
[10:45] <supernix> name
[10:45] <supernix> linux-image-2.6.10-5-686
[10:45] <supernix> summary
[10:45] <supernix> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
[10:45] <supernix> version
[10:45] <supernix> 2.6.10-34.4
[10:46] <chicken-man> what is a good mail program with pop and smtp with a GUI (i don't want any Gnome or KDE things) ?
[10:46] <pablo928> HappyFool-sudo gedit /var/www gives me anerror that this is not a regular file
[10:46] <apokryphos> Seveas: shouldn't the "Please don't use Breezy" be taken out of topic...
[10:46] <HappyFool> pablo928: yes. /var/www is a directory
[10:46] <benplaut> chicken-man, thunderbird
[10:47] <supernix> OMG sorry everyone
[10:47] <apokryphos> Seveas: seems a bit odd to have "we've got a snapshot here for the community, but please don't use it"
[10:47] <supernix> I was just trying to paste the conflict information
[10:47] <chicken-man> benplaut, oooooh yea i forgot about that
[10:47] <benplaut> apokryphos, agreed
[10:47] <chicken-man> benplaut, thanks
[10:47] <benplaut> chicken-man, :)
[10:47] <supernix> I noticed that the latest kernel says that it conflicts with hot plug
[10:47] <dieffel> is Ubuntu Colony 3 worth a try, or should i stay with 5.04???
[10:47] <supernix> Aint that the USB system for devices
[10:47] <HappyFool> pablo928: maybe you want to do sudo gedit /var/www/index.html, or sudo gedit /var/www/apache2-default/index.html ?
[10:48] <benplaut> dieffel, i installed last night, it's great
[10:48] <pablo928> HappyFool-but /var/www has index.html for my Apache site and I want to change it.
[10:48] <dieffel> benplaut, ok
[10:48] <benplaut> dieffel, but dual-boot with hoary, just in case
[10:48] <EasterSunshine> if you really wanna change up that dir like crazy...i would open a root shell
[10:48] <HappyFool> pablo928: ok, so edit the file -- you can't edit a directory
[10:48] <dieffel> benplaut, i have a laptop to try it out.
[10:48] <pablo928> HappyFool-I'll give that a try. Thanks
[10:49] <dieffel> benplaut, what the new features? Do u have any screenshots?
[10:50] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell dieffel about breezy
[10:50] <oonoon> when i leave my computer, i get a blank screen instead of my screensaver ...
[10:50] <benplaut> dieffel, it seems much faster, gnome-panel is now transparent capable, and everything is up to date
[10:50] <benplaut> i dunno about new features
[10:50] <Seveas> apokryphos, it should be now
[10:50] <benplaut> i've used it for only an hour or so
[10:50] <Seveas> wanna do the honours? *g*
[10:50] <apokryphos> benplaut: it's really quite interesting, because the speed difference is very noticeable. Great stuff. =)
[10:50] <dieffel> benplaut, nice... where is breezy fast? boot or in generel?
[10:51] <benplaut> brb
[10:51] <pablo928> happyfool-much thanks. looks like it'll work.
[10:51] <ColonelKernel> I use the breezy kernel on hoary and it works great
[10:51] <apokryphos> Seveas: change topic? You need OP powers
[10:52] <ColonelKernel> speaking of, time to see if theres a new version - I wish there was a way to only add the breezy linux-source package to my update manager
[10:52] <dieffel> benplaut, is breezy still with the i386 as default... i drather like i686... more optimized.
[10:52] <Seveas> :)
[10:52] <EasterSunshine> if i have irssi running in a particular shell and i ssh into my comp, is there a way for me to bring irssi into the ssh session?
[10:52] <Seveas> *g*
[10:52] <apokryphos> heh
[10:52] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, screen!
[10:52] <omp342> does anyone know the name of the package i have to download so i can use custom mouse cursors?
[10:52] <Seveas> read the manpage for screen and always start irssi in a screen session
[10:53] <Seveas> omp342, gcursor (hoary) it's built-in (breezy)
[10:53] <omp342> k
[10:53] <EasterSunshine> hmm...i have never known about screen, thx seveas
[10:53] <ColonelKernel> nope no new version yet, seems like theres one every few days
[10:53] <maximaus> Hey ya'll, I've got Wart, PCLinuxOS,and XP. I want to replace PCLOS with the latest Ubuntu, keeping Warty. Will the installer successfully handle the bootloader for this?
[10:53] <EasterSunshine> seveas: i don't have manpage for screen...i installed kubuntu hoary...
[10:54] <r0bby> screen irssi
[10:54] <r0bby> ctrl+a+d
[10:54] <EasterSunshine> do i apt-get install screen?
[10:54] <Seveas> yup
[10:54] <r0bby> to reattach screen -r
[10:54] <r0bby> :D
[10:54] <oonoon> when i leave my computer, i get a blank screen instead of my screensaver, where does it come from ?
[10:54] <EasterSunshine> thx guys
[10:55] <apokryphos> I'm wondering, either [quasi-] stability has come round much slower this time round (in Breezy) or Colonies/Arrays are being released a lot earlier
[10:55] <omp342> Seveas, I don't see gcursor in synaptic. =/
[10:55] <Seveas> omp342, it's in universe
[10:55] <Seveas> !repos
[10:55] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:55] <HappyFool> EasterSunshine: screen is a dependency of kubuntu-desktop -- you shuold have it already
[10:56] <EasterSunshine> happyfool: i ran debfoster quite a number of times, and removed about a million packages haphazardly
[10:56] <EasterSunshine> (not litereally a million of course)
[10:56] <apokryphos> Seveas: space reduction makes it look like there's space now for a note of #kubuntu  ;-)
[10:56] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, always keep ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop installed
[10:56] <Seveas> ubuntu-base too
[10:56] <EasterSunshine> lol ubuntu-base went bye bye a long long time ago...
[10:56] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, reinstall it
[10:56] <HappyFool> Seveas: i suppose you're going to pedantically insist on libc6 too eh? ;)
[10:56] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: it's essential to have those for upgrades, really
[10:57] <Seveas> you'll be sorry if you don't have it installed during the upgrade to breezy
[10:57] <Seveas> HappyFool, neh, an a.out libc will do :)
[10:57] <omp342> Seveas, it worked. Thanks :)
[10:57] <EasterSunshine> seveas, apokryphos: i don't ever upgrade, it makes me feel like i'm usin up the repos servers bandwidth
[10:58] <Corvus> hi
[10:58] <Hieronymus> EasterSunshine: you can also use cds to upgrade
[10:58] <EasterSunshine> my kubuntu is running fine, if something goes wrong i may consider it
[10:58] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: well, it's cheaper than using their CDs ;-)
[10:58] <EasterSunshine> i will download breezy once it comes out, thats my upgrade
[10:58] <Corvus> is there anyway i can activate dma for my dvd unit in the installation ?
[10:58] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: you shouldn't be preventing yourself fromd ownloading breezy now solely because of bandwidth, really
[10:59] <HappyFool> !dma
[10:59] <Corvus> !dma
[10:59] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: believe me, they have more than enough to cope with it :). I also doubt that they work on a "X bandwidth use -> X price". They likely have a price-plan
[10:59] <HappyFool> hmm. did ubotu msg you?
[10:59] <Corvus> :?
[10:59] <HappyFool> !dma
[10:59] <HappyFool> aargh
[10:59] <Corvus> yes...
[10:59] <cyphase> in case you haven't seen it
[10:59] <HappyFool> oh, ok. go to that wiki page
[10:59] <Corvus> [22:59]  <ubotu> you already said what dma have said. <-- is a joker or something ?
[11:00] <apokryphos> HappyFool: factoid is too large for channel ;-)
[11:00] <cyphase> good read, in a way
[11:00] <Seveas> !tell me about dam
[11:00] <HappyFool> oh
[11:00] <Seveas> !tell me about dma
[11:00] <Corvus> !tell me about dma
[11:00] <jonko> zijn er hier nededrlanders
[11:00] <HappyFool> this is a new feature to me
[11:00] <apokryphos> a lot easier to just have a /msg open; or just /msg ubotu dma
[11:00] <Seveas> jonko, jazeker :)
[11:00] <Seveas> !nl
[11:00] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[11:00] <Corvus> ok, reading it now
[11:01] <HappyFool> apokryphos: yeah, but i wanted corvus to see it. and that !tell thing seems kind of intrusive, but ok
[11:01] <iketurner> hey peoples.... i have a problem with the installation. The ubuntu-quick guide is not installing properly. I have the terminal log here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1405
[11:01] <apokryphos> Seveas: is there a way to put packages on hold, for a dist-upgrade? The dpkg hold seems to be ignored for dist-upgrades
[11:01] <iketurner> any ideas?
[11:01] <amonkey> why can't i play more than one thing at a time?
[11:01] <amonkey> *audio
[11:01] <Seveas> amonkey, switched of esd?
[11:02] <amonkey> Seveas, ?
[11:02] <Seveas> apokryphos, ENOIDEA, never looked at it
[11:02] <data-nerd> Hi
[11:02] <data-nerd> I used Grub
[11:02] <apokryphos> amonkey: or if your card doesn't support mixing... you could use dmix to get around it
[11:02] <data-nerd> until i reinstalled win xp
[11:02] <data-nerd> how do i get grub back?
[11:02] <data-nerd> and how do i boot ubuntu
[11:02] <amonkey> Seveas, what do you mean? switched of?
[11:02] <HappyFool> iketurner: maybe a bad .deb file?
[11:02] <Seveas> amonkey, have you disabled esd ?
[11:03] <data-nerd> Hello?
[11:03] <Corvus> amf, i already new about hdaparm
[11:03] <asparagus> i need help configuring the pcmcia wifi card on my powerbook, it works but it cant find a signal.
[11:03] <amonkey> Seveas, no, i have to kill it when i boot up so music will play
[11:03] <iketurner> HappyFool, would a new install cd help that?
[11:03] <Seveas> data-nerd, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:03] <Corvus> the problem is that i need to enable dma on install, and i don't know how to access to hdaparm
[11:03] <Seveas> amonkey, that's your problem
[11:03] <data-nerd> I have reinstalled win xp, and do not have Grub more! How can i boot up ubuntu?
[11:03] <HappyFool> iketurner: hmm, not sure
[11:03] <amonkey> Seveas, will disable
[11:03] <Seveas> teach your music player to use esd instead of killing esd
[11:03] <Corvus> i tried using hdaparm command in the install, but it isn't found
[11:03] <data-nerd> tanks seveas
[11:03] <Seveas> do NOT disable it Ambient_
[11:03] <Seveas> amonkey*
[11:04] <HappyFool> Corvus: hmm. if you use the expert install, maybe at some point you can run hdparm -- i don't know if it's available on the install cd
[11:04] <Corvus> i already used expert install, but i will try again, maybe i passed something
[11:05] <jonko> zijn er nederlanders hier
[11:05] <filip_> what is the command to move an file? i have forgot that.
[11:05] <LinuxJones> Corvus, why do you need that for installation ?
[11:05] <HappyFool> Corvus: it possibly isn't supported
[11:05] <HappyFool> jonko: /join #ubuntu-nl vir nederlands
[11:05] <tristanmike> filip_, "mv"
[11:05] <filip_> thanx
[11:05] <Stompey00> I have a quick que? I'm setting this os up for a friend and have connected anexternal modem.  I was told to sodu ln -s/dev/modem/devttys0 to establish a syslink to the serial port.  I'm a newbie so bear with me.  I take it i do this from terminal? I tried but it said invalid command.  How does one get the root in terminal like cd.. or such in widows?
[11:06] <jonko>  zijn er nederlanders hier
[11:06] <Seveas> Stompey00, ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/modem
[11:06] <HappyFool> jonko: daar is nederlanders in #ubuntu-nl    (excuse my afrikaans)
[11:06] <Seveas> jonko, stop eens met herhalen
[11:06] <HappyFool> sudo, no sodu
[11:06] <oonoon> i can't believe win runs little c++ programs much faster than linux
[11:06] <Velox[c] > Hah! I believe a tool on windows just gave me my answer.
[11:07] <Velox[c] > I'll run it again and try it with hd1,0
[11:07] <Stompey00> will that work from name /home/ in the terminal or do I need /?
[11:07] <splitta> anyone tried colony-3 yet ?
[11:07] <LinuxJones> oonoon, what do you mean ?
[11:07] <chris> Excuse me, could anyone please be as kind as to remind me where the file that controls repositories is located?
[11:07] <HappyFool> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <HappyFool>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <chris> Thank you HappyFool
[11:07] <Velox[c] > Stompyey00: It'll work from home as its a full path.
[11:07] <HappyFool> for an more-or-less complete example, see below
[11:07] <HappyFool> !repos
[11:07] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:08] <Stompey00> thnks
[11:08] <oonoon> LinuxJones : run some stupid program that counts to one billion, u'll see that win runs it 5 to 10% faster than linux does... really surprising ; i'm a bitdisappointed
[11:08] <bimberi> Stompey00, you will need the sudo at the front too :)
[11:08] <bimberi> too late
[11:09] <splitta> anyone tried colony-3 yet ?  any showstoppers ?
[11:09] <Seveas> oonoon, use compiler optimizations...
[11:09] <HappyFool> Velox[c] : let us know if it works
[11:09] <LinuxJones> oonoon, well do you have unnecessary stuff running in the background or are other users logged in ?
[11:09] <TheWalrus> anyone here experienced with setting up VNC on boot up in Ubuntu?
[11:10] <Seveas> TheWalrus, try freenx instead, it's much better
[11:10] <HappyFool> and do you have the same level of exception handling/run time type checking / blah blah. this sort of thing is not referred to as benchmarketing for nothing ;)
[11:10] <Velox[c] > I'll definately have X-Chat open here 24/7 if it does =)
[11:10] <TheWalrus> i will look into it
[11:11] <chris> :-O  I just made changes to sources.list, how do I save after I did sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list and made the changes?
[11:11] <HappyFool> chris: ':wq'
[11:11] <Seveas> TheWalrus, a repository for it: deb http://ubuntulinux.nl/ /
[11:11] <data-nerd> Cya
[11:11] <data-nerd> bye
[11:11] <filip_> can someone tell me exactly how to to when i whant to install an splash screen? http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[11:11] <HappyFool> chris: ESC first (to get to command mode)
[11:11] <data-nerd> http://mobil.data-nerd.com
[11:11] <data-nerd> http://mobil.data-nerd.com
[11:11] <data-nerd> http://mobil.data-nerd.com
[11:11] <Seveas> stupid spammer
[11:11] <chris> HappyFool: thanks again, it's been a while and this is only my second time using this
[11:11] <HappyFool> chris: you might find 'nano' a bit easier
[11:11] <HappyFool> than vim, i mean
[11:12] <filip_> i have gone in to /apps/gnome-session/options but dont know what to do.
[11:12] <oonoon> LinuxJones : nothing, I even tried to quit X, to improve as much, but yet, win's the fastest grrrrr
[11:12] <TheGnome> anyone else find that the gnome-media update breaks sound in videos
[11:12] <chris> HappyFool: Yes, that's what I used last time, I couldn't remember the name of it
[11:12] <oonoon> Seveas : i hoped that g++ was already a good compilator, it is so famous (for win i use dev-c++)
[11:12] <wdh> hi ppls.. does anyone know how to get the 'Debian' menu?? on a previous install i had it sitting under 'Applications'
[11:12] <Seveas> oonoon, use g++ -O3
[11:13] <oonoon> Seveas : -03 ? what's that ?
[11:13] <HappyFool> i thought dev-c++ used cygwin?
[11:13] <Seveas> wdh, install 'menu' (and smeg)
[11:13] <Seveas> oonoon, -O3, not -03
[11:13] <Seveas> it means optimization
[11:13] <TheGnome> wdh, in ubuntu
[11:13] <oonoon> Seveas : ok ok , but what does it mean ?
[11:13] <Seveas> makes the compiler work harder to give you faster code
[11:14] <Belutz> Seveas: how to add something in crontab?
[11:14] <_meph_> hi
[11:14] <HappyFool> oonoon: i think dev-c++ uses gcc/g++ under the hood anyway
[11:14] <_meph_> What's the root password for the live cd?
[11:14] <Seveas> Belutz, crontab -e (as user) or $EDITOR /etc/crontab (as root)
[11:14] <Seveas> _meph_, there is none
[11:14] <oonoon> HappyFool : that's even more surprising then, for devc to be more advanced
[11:14] <HappyFool> oonoon: benchmarking is a difficult art
[11:14] <Belutz> Seveas: thx :)
[11:15] <Kira> How do I search for a file by file name in the terminal?
[11:15] <_meph_> Seveas: It wont let me mount a samba network share since I'm not root... any hints?
[11:15] <Seveas> _meph_, use sudo
[11:15] <oonoon> Seveas : whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao
[11:15] <Seveas> oonoon, ?
[11:15] <oonoon> Seveas : what's that -O3 , i got a world record
[11:15] <splitta> anyone tried colony-3 yet ?  any showstoppers ?
[11:15] <Seveas> oonoon, hehehe :)
[11:15] <HappyFool> oonoon: you need to discover all possible discrepancies between the systems; also, consider using different workloads (counting is not especially representative, imo)
[11:15] <oonoon> Seveas : that's huge, i divided by almost a factor 4, the execution time
[11:16] <Seveas> HappyFool, benchmarks are crap anyway :)
[11:16] <TheGnome> hey if i comment out my cd as a source.....it will grab packages from the net that it would usually get from the cd right?
[11:16] <HappyFool> Seveas: as produced by marketers, maybe, but they can give some indication of performance
[11:16] <LinuxJones> oonoon, so now Microsoft is 400 % slower now ?
[11:16] <HappyFool> heh
[11:17] <r0bby> TheGnome, yes
[11:17] <pajaraco> hi
[11:17] <r0bby> you should comment out your cd anyways, as the packages on the net are likely newer
[11:17] <pajaraco> moin
[11:17] <TheGnome> r0bby, ok thanks
[11:17] <d2dchat> how do i upgrade things like firefox?
[11:17] <oonoon> LinuxJones: yeah , MS is beaten, by far
[11:17] <d2dchat> is there a command in ubuntu that acts like emerge in gentoo?
[11:18] <oonoon> Seveas : shhhh, i dont understand your stuff, whats that option ? maybe it does also exist on devc
[11:18] <spritey> d2dchat, well, apt?
[11:18] <LinuxJones> oonoon, that would make a great "Unbiased TCO Study" for development environments :D
[11:18] <d2dchat> apt?
[11:18] <crimsun> apt-get build-dep $package && apt-get -b source $package
[11:18] <d2dchat> spritey, is the comand apt?
[11:18] <oonoon> LinuxJones: yeah, my comparative study does not pretend to any kind of generality ;)
[11:19] <LinuxJones> oonoon, ;)
[11:19] <spritey> d2dchat, no direct .... more apt-get
[11:19] <dech> Hi all, anyone here know anything about ATI drivers ?
[11:19] <spritey> dech, i hate them ...
[11:19] <blueyed> How can I use redirect/piping of output with sudo? Like doing the following all for the user: "sudo -u web7 echo test>test.tmp" - would I need to create a script?
[11:19] <dech> Hehe
[11:19] <oonoon> Seveas : do u keep your secret for yourself ? :-)
[11:19] <TheGnome> dech, i do
[11:19] <d2dchat> spritey, more apt-get ? what does it do exactly?
[11:19] <dech> I installed them and my et crashes ran glxgears and i get about 100fps-1000fps
[11:20] <TheGnome> dech, and i think they are great
[11:20] <dech> TheGnome care to help me then ? :)
[11:20] <spritey> d2dchat, its install or remove .deb packages from internet or etc. for searching packages do apt-cache search [package]
[11:20] <yath> d2dchat: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html
[11:21] <TheGnome> dech, yeah i will try my best...pm me
[11:21] <chris> What is a good xmms replacement?
[11:21] <pang> hi
[11:21] <spritey> dech, i think u have to recompile your kernel
[11:21] <Seveas> chris, beep-media-player
[11:21] <d2dchat> Also, i have a  question about wireless drivers, does ubuntu come with wireless drivers? or do u need to install them?
[11:21] <Seveas> oonoon, -O3 is a compiler optimization, read the manpage for g++ for more details
[11:21] <chris> Seveas, Thank you.
[11:22] <omp342> would HL2 work with WINE?
[11:22] <omp342> or will i need cedega?
[11:22] <yath> d2dchat: many are supported, it depends what adapter you have exactly.
[11:22] <oonoon> Seveas : ok thx
[11:22] <spritey> d2dchat, my iBook works very well with wlan
[11:22] <TheGnome> omp342, doesnt work with either
[11:22] <omp342> =o
[11:22] <d2dchat> So i just need to look around?:)
[11:22] <spritey> d2dchat, without doing something special
[11:22] <TheWalrus> im having a problem getting freenx to install. When i update my source list to get the freenx release it will not connect to the sources anyone know if they are down or if there are new sources?
[11:22] <Seveas> TheWalrus, which repository do you use for freenx?
[11:23] <TheWalrus> this is what im following
[11:23] <yath> d2dchat: do "iwconfig" and if you see info, the driver is loaded. Else look in "lspci" and try to find the driver.
[11:23] <TheGnome> how do i restart alsa?
[11:23] <TheWalrus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[11:23] <Seveas> bad idea
[11:23] <Seveas> I'll update that page now
[11:23] <Velox> !grub
[11:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:23] <Seveas> TheWalrus, check that page in ~15 minutes
[11:23] <TheWalrus> ok i will
[11:23] <r0bby> !ndiswrappers
[11:23] <ubotu> r0bby: Syntax error in line 1
[11:23] <TheWalrus> thank you
[11:24] <Kira> !ndiswrapper
[11:24] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:24] <d2dchat> says there are no wireless connections in lo, eth0 and the other one
[11:24] <d2dchat> sit0
[11:24] <mpmc> !info music
[11:24] <yath> d2dchat: no extensions
[11:24] <zerboxx_away> Is there a way to see if someone is connected to my computer through ssh?
[11:24] <zerboxx_away> and to see if they leave :)?
[11:24] <d2dchat> yes, no extentions
[11:24] <lampshade> netstat
[11:24] <lampshade> or maybe who
[11:25] <lampshade> try who, does who show that stuff?
[11:25] <omp342> TheGnome, according to linux-gamers.net you can get steam running with cedega
[11:25] <yath> d2dchat: then the adapter is less than well-supported :/  try lspci to identify it
[11:25] <omp342> TheGnome, so won't that mean you can play HL2
[11:25] <zerboxx_away> who shows my name twice, and root once
[11:25] <d2dchat> 0000:00:09.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference C ard (rev 01)
[11:25] <Velox> Hmm, hd0,0 is ex2fs, but that didn't appear to work.
[11:25] <d2dchat> i think that is what i want
[11:25] <lampshade> zerboxx_away:  I would say who or netstat I think would be able to do it.  I'm kinda noob at this obviously :)
[11:25] <d2dchat> i found it in lspci
[11:25] <zerboxx_away> lampshade: Seems good, thanks :)
[11:26] <d2dchat> yath, http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html
[11:26] <d2dchat> woops
[11:26] <d2dchat> yath, 0000:00:09.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference C ard (rev 01)
[11:26] <yath> d2dchat: try modprobe ray_cs
[11:26] <Kira> I can't run yelp. Permission denied. o_O
[11:27] <yath> and then iwconfig
[11:27] <d2dchat> WARNING: Error inserting pcmcia_core (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:27] <d2dchat> WARNING: Error inserting pcmcia (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/pcmcia.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:27] <d2dchat> FATAL: Error inserting ray_cs (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ray_cs.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:27] <LinuxJones> d2dchat, please stop spamming in here
[11:27] <Seveas> TheWalrus, page is updated now
[11:27] <d2dchat> sorry:(
[11:27] <TheWalrus> thank you
[11:27] <d2dchat> LinuxJones, Very unintentional
[11:27] <yath> d2dchat: I don't often say to use sudo, but it's necessary for most stuff like this
[11:27] <LinuxJones> d2dchat, I know it happens :)
[11:27] <d2dchat> yath, not sure how to use sudo
[11:27] <TheWalrus> should i use both of those /'s or just one?
[11:28] <Seveas> both
[11:28] <yath> $ sudo modprobe ray_cs
[11:28] <TheWalrus> ok
[11:28] <Seveas> with a space in between
[11:28] <d2dchat> LinuxJones, I just forgot how useful the middle mouse button was so i was abusing it;)
[11:29] <ilba7r> anyone know where i can find information on the recent kernel update for the linux-image-k7?
[11:29] <ilba7r> i just want to know what is the update about so i can decide if it is worth upgrading
[11:29] <Seveas> it has a security upgrade
[11:29] <cyphase> what's that utility that generates a map of your filesystem usage?
[11:30] <HappyFool> cyphase: df maybe?
[11:30] <Seveas> ilba7r, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/usn-169-1
[11:30] <ilba7r> is there a security risk in the old kernel
[11:30] <amonkey> Seveas, i did the thing and it still doesn't work. don't have to kill esd to make it work, but still only one thing at a time
[11:30] <cyphase> nvm, got it
[11:30] <cyphase> filelight
[11:30] <hajiki> anyone have problems with sound (not getting any) with totem-xine and flash plugin for firefox?
[11:30] <ilba7r> thanx seveas
[11:30] <cyphase> very useful tool
[11:30] <Seveas> amonkey, you should have read what i said
[11:30] <Seveas> you should NOT disable esd
[11:31] <Seveas> and simply teach your applications to *use* it
[11:31] <yath> ilba7r: linux-image-2.6.12-7 ?
[11:31] <yath> woops
[11:31] <cyphase> i'm all for diversity, but linux needs a standard sound interface
[11:32] <crimsun> cyphase: it has an API. In fact, it has 2.
[11:32] <yath> anyone here using breezy colony 3?
[11:32] <cyphase> yath, i'm downloading it
[11:32] <cyphase> crimsun, 2 is one to many
[11:33] <yath> cyphase: are you using a laptop? my battery monitor isn't working right
[11:33] <crimsun> cyphase: tell that to the OSS detractors
[11:33] <TheWalrus> So do I have to do anything to configure FreeNX so that I can login to Ubuntu from the login screen remotely?
[11:33] <cyphase> yath, downloading..
[11:33] <cyphase> yath, but i have a breezy live cd loaded on a laptop behind me
[11:33] <cyphase> battery monitor is fine
[11:33] <tristanmike> crimsun, i was told you were the person to ask about sound, do you mind, i have a question
[11:33] <yath> hmm
[11:33] <crimsun> tristanmike: shoot
[11:33] <benplaut_> how often does nickserv make sure people are actually gone?
[11:34] <Seveas> TheWalrus, no
[11:34] <Seveas> only the things on that wikipage
[11:34] <tristanmike> crimsun, ok thanx, sound is fine, it's more of a tweaking issue, I want to get my rear speakers working
[11:34] <TheWalrus> ok thanks
[11:34] <Seveas> benplaut_, /msg nickserv ghost benplaut YOUR_PASSWORD
[11:34] <crimsun> tristanmike: did you adjust the Surround volume using amixer (or another mixer)?
[11:34] <tristanmike> crimsun, I have a soundblaster Live! card and I used the speaker test and know I can get sound to them
[11:35] <amonkey> Seveas, sorry, i thought you meant the thing on ubuntu guide about esd (how to make sound work in gnome) that's what i did.
[11:35] <tristanmike> crimsun, yes, I have used aslamixer and the "obvious" settings are all at 100%
[11:35] <nudnick> Can anyone help me out? My system is hanging when i get to a certian point in the installaion. It hangs during the detect hardware part while it says "Starting PC Card Services..."
[11:35] <benplaut> ah, that worked :P
[11:35] <Seveas> amonkey, that piece of ubuntuguide is utter crap
[11:35] <tristanmike> crimsun, however, if i do adjust something in alsamixer, do i need to restart alsa for the changes to take affect?
[11:35] <amonkey> what do you suggest instead
[11:35] <EasterSunshine> wiki
[11:36] <nudnick> anyone?
[11:36] <crimsun> tristanmike: please paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl and tell me the URL. No, you don't need to restart ALSA.
[11:36] <tristanmike> how do I get the output aside from the gui, or is that what you mean?
[11:36] <EasterSunshine> amonkey: wiki.ubuntu.org or something... the wiki pages for ubuntu
[11:36] <nudnick> Can anyone help me out when they get a chance?
[11:37] <Seveas> amonkey, as I said 2 times already: keeping esd enabled and teaching your application to use it...
[11:37] <tristanmike> crimsun, how do I get the output aside from the gui, or is that what you mean?, sorry
[11:37] <crimsun> tristanmike: from a Terminal
[11:37] <jtan325> man i am having the weirdest problem with gaim. i can log in to my yahoo and msn accounts, but my aim account seems to freeze on the login process, either on the "connecting" part or "receiving authroization". i am pretty sure the aim account is alright, because i tried remote desktopping into my work computer and was able to log in there (using gaim). any ideas?
[11:38] <blk> does somebody know about the state of keyboard-layouts in breezy? i can't seem to get de_CH working - it is set in gconf aswell as in xorg.conf, when switching from the keyboard-pref.-gui i get an "error activating XKB conf."
[11:38] <tristanmike> crimsun, yeah, sorry, i should have been more specific, do you mean post sudo alsamixer?
[11:38] <crimsun> tristanmike: no, open a Terminal, type amixer, then post that output
[11:39] <SolitaryCritic> I just installed ubuntu on my other computer and after it told me to remove the disc and restart it said Operating System not Found
[11:39] <omp342> hmm
[11:39] <tristanmike> crimsun, gotch
[11:39] <SolitaryCritic> whats the problem
[11:39] <nudnick> SolitaryCritic -
[11:39] <nudnick> Can anyone help me out? My system is hanging when i get to a certian point in the installaion. It hangs during the detect hardware part while it says "Starting PC Card Services..."
[11:39] <nudnick> thats my problem
[11:40] <omp342> would it be stupid to not use the amd64 version of ubuntu if i have a 64-bit processor?
[11:40] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1407
[11:40] <benplaut> nudnick, laptop?
[11:40] <_meph_> hey is there a way to use dd with a stream instead of a file
[11:40] <_meph_> for the input
[11:41] <tristanmike> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1407 sorry, :(
[11:41] <TheWalrus> Ok so when I try to login to the machine with FreeNX from the FreeNX windows Client I have it gives me an error stating "The inititialization of the local X Server Failed. Error is: Cannot find the 'tmp' mount point in the registry."
 ones. They're all set to 0 vol.
[11:42] <nudnick> i dont have any in
[11:42] <hoffmanos> hola
[11:42] <benplaut> oh
[11:42] <benplaut> nudnick, i dunno...
[11:43] <TheWalrus> does that mean that something is configured wrong on the Ubuntu box or on my Windows machine?
[11:43] <lurah> http://koti.phnet.fi/heinkai/images/sekaa/fart.jpg
[11:43] <lurah> :D
[11:43] <tristanmike> crimsun, ok, i wouldn't have turned those up in my quest, I wouldn't have thought they'd have anything to do with it
[11:43] <ThreeDayMonk> Hi.  I'm building a package that's not available in the repos (a ruby library for chasen, a japanese morphological analyser).  I can build the library OK, but when I try to use it in Ruby, I get "chasen.so: undefined symbol: _Znwj".  According to c++filt, that's new().  Google turns up nothing.  What can I do?
[11:44] <nudnick> benplaut, what else do you think the problem could be
[11:44] <TheGnome> nobody else was effected by the gnome-media update?
[11:44] <nudnick> there are no cards or anythin
[11:44] <benplaut> nudnick, i dunno...
[11:44] <nudnick> anyone else got any ideas?
[11:45] <tristanmike> crimsun, OMG you're a F'n God, I got a little fuzz going on, but it's there
[11:45] <crimsun> nudnick: you can disable the loading of pcmcia drivers from the boot line
[11:45] <tristanmike> crimsun, the fuzz is from the front two speakers only
[11:45] <nudnick> how do i do that
[11:45] <benplaut> in breezy, can i add the hoary repos to my list so i can get java?
[11:46] <crimsun> nudnick: see the help by pressing F3 when the boot line appears when you boot from the installer cd
[11:46] <crimsun> tristanmike: you might want to turn down Surround, then
[11:47] <tristanmike> crimsun, yeah, absolutely, I'll tinker, thank you so very much
[11:47] <tristanmike> UBUNTU ROCKS!!!!
[11:47] <TheGnome> yes
[11:47] <TheGnome> it does
[11:47] <benplaut> we know :P
[11:47] <nudnick> crimsun. would you mind walking me through it i'm really new to linux
[11:47] <tristanmike> I know, I just got excited
[11:47] <hardw1re> hmmm just checking the ubuntu amd 64 packages, and i noticed on the forum they said there was no wine. is there a way to get it running on hoary5.04 amd 64, or is there no chance?
[11:48] <Velox> Ubuntu rocks, GRUB sucks :P
[11:48] <crimsun> nudnick: when you boot from the installer cd, there's an orange Ubuntu screen that shows up
[11:48] <benplaut> agreed
[11:48] <nudnick> would it be like boot: pcmcia:off   ?
[11:48] <crimsun> nudnick: press F3
[11:48] <ThreeDayMonk> Velox: Yes.  Yes, it does.
[11:48] <crimsun> nudnick: something along those lines
[11:48] <nudnick> i'm at that screen
[11:48] <ompaul> !irclog
[11:48] <ubotu> ompaul: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:48] <Velox> Maybe LILO would work better for me.
[11:48] <hardw1re> oooh is someone talking about grub?
[11:48] <Velox> GRUB is evil.
[11:48] <Velox> GRUB won't load.
[11:48] <TheGnome> i like grub
[11:48] <nudnick> that dosen't work
[11:49] <ThreeDayMonk> grub is especially problematic on old computers that can't access the whole disk through bios
[11:49] <crimsun> nudnick: F1?
[11:49] <hardw1re> my windows os sits on a sata drive, in order to boot from it i have to tell my bios to boot that drive 1st, grub doesnt seem to be able to boot my windows os
[11:49] <TheGnome> i have a sata drive that works fine
[11:49] <hardw1re> yeah well linux sits on an ide drive
[11:49] <nudnick> crimsun: I hit F1. then hit F3. then i type in pcmcia=off and hit enter but it dosen't accept it
[11:50] <hardw1re> and installs to the boot of that disk
[11:50] <crimsun> nudnick: you need to type the image name first.
[11:50] <Velox> hardw1re: thats alot like my situation. I have two drives, 120gb SATA and 40gb IDE. Linux is on the IDE drive, installed it, set my BIOS to boot from IDE drive and GRUB doesn't load.
[11:50] <hardw1re> so to boot linux i set the bios to run that drive 1st, to boot windows i have to edit the other drive
[11:50] <crimsun> nudnick: linux pcmcia=off
[11:50] <ThreeDayMonk> all you kids with SATA - I have never even *seen* an SATA drive :-(
[11:50] <benplaut> in breezy, can i add the hoary repos to my list so i can get java?
[11:50] <crimsun> ThreeDayMonk: don't worry, they still break when you throw them off a skyscraper
[11:50] <hardw1re> (IDE Interfaces):[PCI device 10de:00e5 (nVidia Corporation) (rev 162)]
[11:50] <Spudchat> did anyone get video out to work with a nvidia geforce 6800 go?
[11:50] <hardw1re> hmm
[11:50] <hardw1re> thats not what i was looking for
[11:50] <loupous> join #ubuntu-fr
[11:51] <Spudchat> i looked at the documentation and did what it said but i still have no luck :(
[11:51] <ThreeDayMonk> crimsun: heh.  I dropped a 250GB disk last weekend.  Not good.
[11:51] <nudnick> crimsun. i typed in linux pcmcia:off but it still stalls there
[11:51] <TheGnome> wow that sun-j2re1.5 package actually links to firefox correctly noqw
[11:51] <nudnick> will you be on later because i have to go
[11:52] <crimsun> nudnick: I may, but ping me first
[11:52] <hardw1re> well basically grub is trying to boot from the wrong place to try and boot windows
[11:52] <crimsun> argh, silly Digital_Warrior0
[11:52] <hardw1re> windows is on sda5
[11:52] <hardw1re> and linux is on hda5
[11:52] <TheWalrus> Now I am getting an Error Unknown when trying to login using FreeNX any suggestions?
[11:53] <Scrawny1> hey guys I've used google and can't find a thing, what I'm looking for a .deb bible program that I can use for Ubuntu, can anyone possibly help?
[11:53] <Tatster> hi - I have a permissions problem that I'm not sure how to solve. anthony@beta:/$ sudo chmod 777 scsi/
[11:53] <Tatster> chmod: changing permissions of `scsi/': Read-only file system
[11:54] <crimsun> Scrawny1: aptitude search bible
[11:54] <hardw1re> .deb bible?
[11:54] <kemik> Tatster:  have you mounted your SCSI drive as Read-Only ?
[11:55] <hardw1re> Spudchat: i have a 6800 running here but i dont se the video out
[11:55] <Spudchat> ok
[11:55] <Tatster> I didn't think I did - here is the line from /etc/fstab -  /dev/sda1       /scsi           ext3    defaults        0       0
[11:55] <nariman> HELP!
[11:55] <Scrawny1> ok I've found bibletime how do I pull it and get it installed?
[11:56] <nariman> i try to run Gta2 on my wine
[11:56] <nariman> (fresh installed)
[11:56] <ThreeDayMonk> Scrawny1: maybe you'd find synaptic easier
[11:56] <nariman> and it gta2 complains about it cant find language files
[11:56] <ThreeDayMonk> but if you are in the console, sudo apt-get install bibletime
[11:56] <LinuxJones> d2dchat, sorry was afk
[11:56] <nariman> whats wrong??
[11:57] <Tatster> kemik: Is that correct?
[11:57] <Scrawny1> I got an error when I tried that :(
[11:57] <kemik> Tatster:  looks sort of correct yes
[11:57] <ThreeDayMonk> Scrawny1: what kind of error?
[11:57] <thekman> apt-get install bibletime
[11:57] <Tatster> sort of? Is that good or bad?
[11:58] <kemik> Tatster:  if you do a "ls -lha" on the device "root-dir" see what permissions it has and owner
[11:58] <kemik> Tatster:  and use pastebin if the output is > 2 lines
[11:59] <yath> heh d2dchat has serious paste issues
[11:59] <SolitaryCritic> I tried intalling ubuntu again and it said operating system not found after I restarted
[11:59] <Scrawny1> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution) <----this is the error I get
[11:59] <TheWalrus> Now I am getting an Error Unknown while the client is setting up the X Enviroment when trying to login using FreeNX anyone know why this is occuring or how to fix it?
[11:59] <d2dchat> LinuxJones, np, you just missing my spam
[11:59] <d2dchat> LinuxJones, ;)
[11:59] <ThreeDayMonk> Scrawny1: you've been messing around with .debs?
[12:00] <Scrawny1> ah no this is the first time this has happened