[00:00] <zykotick9> velko_: doesn't matter - only ubuntu is supported in #ubuntu
[00:00] <velko_> zykotick9, so call the ops to kick me out
[00:00] <brianp1992> okay i figured it out, heres the url http://pastebin.com/kn4C0dPA
[00:01] <shade34321> brianp1992, pastebinit is the command and package name...sorry had to switch to my ubuntu computer
[00:01] <bastidrazor> velko_: he means this issue did not occur in Ubuntu therefore is not a valid question/answer session here.
[00:02] <brianp1992> http://pastebin.com/kn4C0dPA
[00:02] <velko_> bastidrazor, i do understand this. but i'm not using ubuntu either. am i therefore not qualified enough to talk on this channel?
[00:02] <Praxi> who told me to use xfce earlier? was that trevor?
[00:03] <zykotick9> velko_: i don't use ubuntu either - but i don't seek support for my distro in this channel
[00:04] <brianp1992> shade34321, the error mesage when i uninstall programs via software center http://pastebin.com/kn4C0dPA
[00:05] <VGN-AR31E> hello guys
[00:05] <VGN-AR31E> anyone in here tonight?
[00:05] <shade34321> brianp1992, is that just installation of anything or something specific?
[00:05] <VGN-AR31E> need HELP!
[00:05] <velko_> zykotick9, ok. i apologize if my words were not chosen carefully enough. what i wanted to say is that i don't think that his problem is arch-specific. so he's not asking for arch support on the ubuntu channel
[00:05] <brianp1992> shade34321, it will pop up when installing/uninstalling anything
[00:06] <jamilto> teste
[00:06] <pcfreak2> hey guys
[00:06] <pcfreak2> just wondering
[00:06] <shade34321> what about installing something with terminal?
[00:06] <jamilto> koe rapeizeeee
[00:06] <pcfreak2> have any of you tried the 12.04 beta 1??
[00:06] <jamilto> alguém do brasil akii?
[00:06] <VGN-AR31E> :/
[00:06] <zykotick9> pcfreak2: reask in #ubuntu+1
[00:06] <pcfreak2> ok
[00:06] <pcfreak2> see u
[00:06] <VGN-AR31E> need some advice... want to get rid of windows 7
[00:07] <VGN-AR31E> and switch to linux.... advice required which one is best suited
[00:07] <VGN-AR31E> :/
[00:07] <Praxi> windows 8? bwhahahah
[00:07] <brianp1992> shade34321, it will pop up when installing/uninstalling anything
[00:07] <VGN-AR31E> lol no no - had enough of windows
[00:07] <shade34321> brianp1992, have you seen this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1482704&page=2
[00:07] <Praxi> VGN-AR31E, trying that myself now for the record though, dumped my windows box, installed ubuntu
[00:07] <tynajas> algun español?
[00:07] <VGN-AR31E> want to switch to linux
[00:07] <shade34321> and/or tried it?
[00:07] <Praxi> this is my second day with it
[00:08] <zykotick9> !es | tynajas
[00:08] <VGN-AR31E> any probs praxi?
[00:08] <brianp1992> shade34321, i love you
[00:08] <Praxi> ya tons of productivity problems
[00:08] <shade34321> brianp1992, lol
[00:08] <VGN-AR31E> hummm.... thats no good :/
[00:08] <Praxi> I'm a windows admin, with some minor linux admin
[00:08] <shade34321> brianp1992, make sure it fixes the issue first:)
[00:08] <shade34321> brianp1992, so then I can go celebrate for actualy helping somebody:D
[00:08] <danny> hello i am trying to install teamviewer wicth is a program that was ported over using wine much like google picasa i beilve and when i install the .deb 64 bit file it went all good until i try to open the porgram and thats when i get this "failed to load tvwine.dll.so " "could not load the GNU/Linux extension shared library tvwine.dll.so
[00:08] <brianp1992> shade34321, yes, im pretty shure its what im looking for
[00:08] <VGN-AR31E> what computer do you have?
[00:09] <Praxi> manage a few magento stores, open-erp and a few things like that for linux, but I mainly do a bunch of MS SQL data mining.
[00:09] <VGN-AR31E> hummm... right
[00:09] <Praxi> built computer, intel 2500k, 8gb ram, nvidia card
[00:09] <VGN-AR31E> worrying.... as your a computer wizz and getting probs
[00:09] <Praxi> I'm not a linux wizz though
[00:10] <Praxi> this channel has helped me quite a bit, but still it shouldn't be that difficult hehe
[00:10] <VGN-AR31E> hummm I am neither -- just fed up of windows
[00:10] <Praxi> admittedly a lot of it I did to myself
[00:10] <VGN-AR31E> okay... have you tried any other linux os?
[00:11] <Praxi> I wanted to try centrific? a tool to authenticate me against my active directory and provide me with access to my network resources.  It prevented me from loggin in, had to goto terminal and delete my user profiles and uninstall it, there was a few hours wasted.
[00:11] <zykotick9> VGN-AR31E: gnu/linux if for people that hate windows.  BSD is for people that hate gnu/linux.  and OpenBSD is for people that hate everyone.  </joke>
[00:12] <VGN-AR31E> lol at zykotick
[00:12] <Praxi> so far linux doesn't like my big canon copier that we print label stock on, it prints, but only in black & white, having trouble finding a good driver for it.
[00:12] <brianp1992> shade34321, when i went to apt-get install  nvidia-kernel-common    it was unavailable, do i really need it lol?
[00:12] <VGN-AR31E> hummm... i got this coming weekend to sort my laptop out
[00:12] <VGN-AR31E> not sure if i want to take the risk :/
[00:12] <VGN-AR31E> been reading - linux would/might not install a lot of the devices?
[00:12] <Praxi> I tried mint a few months ago on a vm, it wasn't bad, ubuntu is probably friendlier to noobs like me though
[00:13] <VGN-AR31E> hummm so should go with ubuntu if i install linux?
[00:13] <Praxi> take a good backup and give it a whirl, what do you mainly do?  maybe I have had some xp with that and can offer noob insight into it
[00:13] <mneptok> VGN-AR31E: it's not "install." it's "does the device vendor provide open specifications?"
[00:13] <VGN-AR31E> or would anyone recommend differently for my Sony Vaio VGN AR31E?
[00:14] <mneptok> VGN-AR31E: a Live session will sort all this out.
[00:14] <danny> so how would i be able to add tvwine.dll.so to my dependecies or were ever it should go ?
[00:14] <shade34321> brianp1992, honestly I"m not sure but I'd see if you can update first
[00:14] <VGN-AR31E> a live session?
[00:14] <Praxi> ya thats very true VGN-AR31E get the ubuntu cd, boot off it, but dont install it, it lets you try
[00:14] <Praxi> gives you a functioning ubuntu desktop without installing
[00:15] <VGN-AR31E> right....
[00:15] <zykotick9> VGN-AR31E: the only suggestions you'll get here are for ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu for a more audience you might want to ask in the ##linux channel
[00:15] <mneptok> VGN-AR31E: download a Live CD image. burn it. boot from CD. run Ubuntu. see what it does. no changes to your hard disk.
[00:15] <VGN-AR31E> so I can download it and burn it onto a cd
[00:15] <VGN-AR31E> to be used?
[00:15] <Praxi> ya
[00:15] <VGN-AR31E> aaah brilliant!!!!
[00:15] <VGN-AR31E> cheers
[00:15] <linuxdude2> what we talking about peeps??
[00:16] <GASSYPOOTS> i dunno
[00:16] <VGN-AR31E> thats fab... thanks praxi and mneptok
[00:16] <linuxdude2> what do you guys want to talk about??
[00:16] <GASSYPOOTS> who used a liveusb?
[00:16] <linuxdude2> i have a liveusb
[00:16] <linuxdude2> of ubuntu
[00:16] <GASSYPOOTS> i made my own
[00:16] <linuxdude2> gparted
[00:16] <linuxdude2> and debian
[00:16] <FloodBot1> linuxdude2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <Praxi> yw VGN-AR31E feel free to send a tell if you want noob perspective or the geek speak getting too much :)
[00:17] <linuxdude2> got yelled at by bot.
[00:17] <linuxdude2> "dont" flood
[00:17] <linuxdude2> says bot
[00:17] <brianp1992> shade34321, ill up date then try install agan
[00:17] <GASSYPOOTS> pi is about 3.141569....
[00:17] <Praxi> trying using complete sentences linuxdude2? :)
[00:17] <VGN-AR31E> cool praxi
[00:17] <shade34321> brianp1992, sounds good
[00:18] <mneptok> linuxdude2: and you continue to send multiple inputlines for single thought. please stop.
[00:18] <pengw> hi
[00:18] <linuxdude2> i will, ive never used IRC before
[00:18] <Wabs> flooding must be bad in this channel to have 3 bots for it
[00:19] <linuxdude2> yet I'm a huge nerd, jailbreaking peoples iPods and iPhones for $5, trying to save up money for Starhawk for PS3
[00:19] <pengw> i got a question i use glade3 and python and I have 3 text entry, Now I want to pass these three boxs's text to a function to calculate. So what should I do?
[00:19] <GASSYPOOTS> the only thing i dont like about ubuntu is i cant use flash so noyoutube repeater
[00:19] <linuxdude2> for what??
[00:19] <no-name-> does the 32-bit version have a RAM limit like windows does? (I have 8gb)
[00:19] <pengw> it is quite hard to find a good glade gtk tutorial
[00:19] <linuxdude2> you can use flash in Ubuntu.....
[00:19] <Praxi> 4gb limit for 32b?
[00:19] <linuxdude2> #GASSYPOOTS
[00:19] <GASSYPOOTS> how?
[00:20] <linuxdude2> hold on
[00:20] <brianp1992> shade34321, alright, same thing happend,  heres what it says http://pastebin.com/KeE0T7rf
[00:20] <GASSYPOOTS> not in chromium
[00:20] <zykotick9> no-name-: yes, 32bit can only address 3.?GB of RAM, PAE is a "hack" that lets you use more.  If your CPU supports 64bit, with 8GB i'd use it.
[00:20] <no-name-> zykotick9: thanks
[00:20] <GASSYPOOTS> im usbooting XD new word :P
[00:20] <linuxdude2> install Flash in USC for Firefox, Flash is built in to Chomium
[00:21] <shade34321> brianp1992, my guess is you don't need it but like I said before I'm not sure...maybe somebody else can chime in and let you know for sure:/
[00:21] <GASSYPOOTS> well i have installed java but look
[00:21] <itaylor57> linuxdude2, flash is native to chrome not chromium
[00:21] <linuxdude2> oh
[00:21] <linuxdude2> i learnt something
[00:21] <velko_> pengw, http://www.micahcarrick.com/gtk-glade-tutorial-part-1.html#Specifying_Callback_Functions_for
[00:21] <linuxdude2> i thought it was
[00:21] <linuxdude2> flash works for me in firefox and chomium
[00:21] <brianp1992> shade34321, alright well im going ot remove a package and see it it complains..
[00:22] <shade34321> brianp1992, ok
[00:22] <linuxdude2> ok
[00:22] <VGN-AR31E> okay i am out now.... once again Thanks Praxi
[00:22] <VGN-AR31E> was nice chatting!
[00:22] <linuxdude2> kool
[00:22] <linuxdude2> you guys use DD-WRT??
[00:23] <linuxdude2> it's a nice firmware
[00:23] <linuxdude2> ill be right back
[00:24] <Lyte101> anybody get gwibber to display notification bubble? (ubuntu 11.10, gwibber 3.3.2)
[00:25] <brianp1992> shade34321, well :) it worked thanks a tonn
[00:25] <shade34321> brianp1992, my pleasure..have fun:)
[00:25] <brianp1992> shade34321, how much do i owe you?
[00:25] <GASSYPOOTS> well try this in chromium
[00:25] <GASSYPOOTS> http://www.youtuberepeater.com/watch?v=vJ0vmn0oMPs&name=Nightcore+Seng+om+Ingenting
[00:25] <Bray90820> anyone know how to map the ubuntu 10.10 touchpad correctly on my macbook pro
[00:25] <GASSYPOOTS> i installed java
[00:25] <shade34321> brianp1992, nothing...i get my motorcycle license tomorrow and I get to ride my motorcycle for the first:D
[00:25] <GASSYPOOTS> ...
[00:26] <brianp1992> shade34321, niice lol ill be getting mine soon too lol
[00:26] <GASSYPOOTS> i had to paste that because for some reason i can get libright or whatever to get out of my screenshots >.<
[00:26] <shade34321> brianp1992, woot!
[00:27] <Bray90820> anyone know how to map the ubuntu 10.10 touchpad correctly on my macbook pro
[00:27] <GASSYPOOTS> nope
[00:27] <Lyte101> anybody get gwibber to display notification bubble? (ubuntu 11.10, gwibber 3.3.2)
[00:27] <GASSYPOOTS> i guess ubuntu laptop?
[00:27] <Bray90820> do you even know the error i am talking about
[00:28] <GASSYPOOTS> nope im using desktop with RAID
[00:28] <Bray90820> the trackpad is maped wrong on macbooks
[00:28] <brianp1992> grassypoots dosent know anything he just got here lol, bray90820
[00:29] <Bray90820> well he know everything i haver said
[00:29] <Bray90820> it's a general error accross all macbooks
[00:29] <peasant> I just switched my 11.04 luks lvm to an SSD and now I get it won't boot...just says (initramfs) right after I punch in the passphrase.  I realize that this is because it is still decrypting /dev/sda5 instead of /dev/sdb5 but I don't know how to tell it otherwise.
[00:29] <shade34321> Does anybody know what this error is from , "drwxr-x---  9 lightdm       lightdm       4.0K 2012-03-07 19:27 lightdm
[00:29] <shade34321> "
[00:29] <brianp1992> shade34321, thanks again man ill be back im shure lol
[00:29] <shade34321> brianp1992, np..later
[00:30] <brianp1992> shade34321, later
[00:31] <AdmV0rl0n> hi
[00:31] <Bray90820> so no ome knows how to remap a macbook trackpad
[00:32] <AdmV0rl0n> I'm on konversation 1.3.1 and it keeps segfaulting. Anyone seen this before and know of a fix?
[00:33] <Bray90820> anyone know how to map the ubuntu 10.10 touchpad correctly on my macbook pro
[00:33] <Bray90820> someone has gatta know
[00:34] <zykotick9> !patience | Bray90820
[00:34] <Bray90820> they should tell me they dont know
[00:34] <Praxi> we don't know
[00:35] <Bray90820> anyone know for a reguler trackpad
[00:35] <Bray90820> regular
[00:36] <peasant> bray90820: did you try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1586340
[00:36] <Dogears> How do I add Sun-jre to the repository on 10.10?
[00:36] <Bray90820> i did
[00:37] <zykotick9> Dogears: if you want sun-java these days, download it direct for Oracle (see "/msg ubottu java" link for more details)
[00:37] <Praxi> hmm I'm using xfce on 11.10, is there any reason I couldn't do away with the default panels and just use docky?
[00:37] <Dogears> Thanks
[00:38] <Praxi> is there anyway to add a notification area to Docky?
[00:42] <allure> Why isn't gparted detecting my usb thumb so I can repartition it?
[00:43] <Jordan_U> allure: Is the device not listed in the top right, or is it listed but shows as "unpartitioned"?
[00:43] <allure> Jordan_U: not listed on the top right
[00:43] <Jordan_U> allure: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[00:44] <allure> Jordan_U: sure, just a second
[00:45] <allure> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/4XfuJq6q
[00:45] <danny> hello i am trying to install teamviewer wicth is a program that was ported over using wine much like google picasa i beilve and when i install the .deb 64 bit file it went all good until i try to open the porgram and thats when i get this "failed to load tvwine.dll.so " "could not load the GNU/Linux extension shared library tvwine.dll.so
[00:46] <Jordan_U> allure: Is any utility able to detect this drive?
[00:46] <Praxi> I just installed that Danny, was something I had to do, but it told me about it
[00:46] <allure> Jordan_U: it is automounted, then I umount it so I could edit the partition table on gparted, but it's not detected there
[00:46] <Jordan_U> allure: How did you umount it?
[00:47] <danny> Praxi, so um did u figue out whats wrong ?
[00:47] <allure> Jordan_U: clicking on the eject on the file manager
[00:47] <Praxi> I didn't get an error
[00:48] <Jordan_U> allure: That's the problem. "eject" also turns the device off in addition to unmounting it. You'll need to unplug and replug the drive to access it again.
[00:48] <Praxi> in the software center, think it had one other step listed in its description I had to do.
[00:48] <Praxi> I'm using it now though
[00:48] <allure> Jordan_U: ooh! I see. Thank you, I'm going to try that
[00:48] <Jordan_U> allure: To unmount it either find an "unmount" option in nautilus, use the unmount option in GParted, or use the "umount" command.
[00:48] <Jordan_U> allure: You're welcome.
[00:49] <allure> Jordan_U: yes, it does work! Thank you :)
[00:49] <Jordan_U> allure: You're welcome :)
[00:49] <Praxi> first time you run it, has to be run from a terminal thats what it was Danny
[00:49] <danny> praxi, how do i do that
[00:50] <Praxi> ctrl alt T then type teamviewer7
[00:50] <Praxi> not sure if that fixes your tvwine issue though, guess you find out
[00:50] <Guest76761> Hey guys, I need some help adding a plugin to Pidgin so I can use qq.
[00:51] <Guest76761> Was wondering if anyone can give me a hand for a minute.
[00:51] <danny> gave me the same error i am using ubuntu 12.04 but i didnt think that would have an effect on it would it praxi
[00:51] <danny> Praxi, gave me the same error i am using ubuntu 12.04 but i didnt think that would have an effect on it would it
[00:51] <Praxi> ya probably not hehe
[00:52] <Praxi> no other good advice for you, other than reinstall, verify your x64 type stuff
[00:53] <peasant> Guest76761: Heavy lifting required?
[00:53] <danny> well how do i delete a program i installed using the softwarecenter and a .deb package its not in the software center so i dont know how to delete it
[00:53] <Guest76761> Nah, just need to use your fingers :P
[00:54] <Praxi> hmm
[00:54] <peasant> Guest76761: Ask away.
[00:54] <TrentonAdams> hey guys.  I forget the commands to completely re-initialize your grub installation, in you've changed a bunch of stuff since first install.  For example, you might have added lvm, or changed a drive, etc.  Anyone recall?
[00:55] <Ronin01> Im Making A New Fstab Entry For A Hard Drive I Just Mounted But Blkid Wont Return Its UUID
[00:55] <Guest76761> Sent you a message peasant.
[00:55] <Ronin01> can anyone tell me the command?
[00:55] <Ronin01> I am in the directory I just mounted but blkid still wont see it
[00:55] <zykotick9> TrentonAdams: "sudo update-grub" you mean?
[00:56] <Ronin01> maybe
[00:56] <Ronin01> i just recovered this system
[00:56] <Ronin01> the grub was messed up before
[00:56] <TrentonAdams> zykotick9: there were more commands than that.  I think that may have been just one of them.
[00:56] <Ronin01> yeah
[00:56] <zykotick9> !grub2 | TrentonAdams
[00:56] <Ronin01> thanks
[00:57] <Praxi> hmm my xfce is too small, looks like it needs anti aliasing everywhere
[00:57] <Ronin01> ok the update-grub didnt work
[00:58] <Ronin01> grub is the wrong way to go
[00:58] <Ronin01> because it has nothing in it
[00:58] <Ronin01> for grub to see
[00:58] <Ronin01> can someone help me locate its UUID by command line?
[00:58] <Ronin01> I tried researching it before wasting anyones time
[00:59] <zykotick9> Ronin01: "sudo blkid" is the correct command.  check if there is anything interesting in "dmesg", prehaps the drive isn't being detected by the kernel?
[00:59] <Ronin01> oh wait
[00:59] <Ronin01> thanks that did it
[00:59] <Ronin01> i wasnt sudo blkid
[00:59] <Ronin01> ....
[00:59] <FloodBot1> Ronin01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:59] <Bsims> why the heck doesn't ubuntu one have a progress bar?
[00:59] <Josh|Killjoy> whats the command do install python 3 via terminal?
[01:00] <bastidrazor> W 3
[01:00]  * FraterM sees lots of progress bars in software center.
[01:00] <Bsims> FraterM: not in ubuntu one
[01:02] <bastidrazor> Josh|Killjoy: python 3 is not in the ubuntu repositories.
[01:02] <zykotick9> Josh|Killjoy: even 12.04 is using python 2.X - you could check for a PPA, but good luck with that
[01:02] <zykotick9> s/is/isn't/
[01:10] <zykotick9> !time
[01:12] <zykotick9> sorry about ^^^, why does !time in the channel give above factoid, while "time" in PM with ubottu give the time/date?
[01:12] <ok> hi
[01:13] <Fyodorovna> zykotick9, what does time am give?
[01:13] <philipballew> when compiling to i need to make as root or just make install (checkinstall) as root?
[01:13] <wylde> philipballew: you can compile as normal user
[01:13] <zykotick9> Fyodorovna: sorry, i don't understand your question
[01:13] <wylde> philipballew: and yes you need to sudo make install
[01:14] <Fyodorovna> zykotick9, I thought you meant !time pm I have not seen the command.
[01:14] <zykotick9> philipballew: are you familiar with checkinstall?  If not "/msg ubottu checkinstall"
[01:15] <philipballew> zykotick9, yes I am. Can someone tell me what this fail message means http://paste.ubuntu.com/873890/
[01:15] <peasant> I already started pvmove.  Anyone know how to see progress?
[01:15] <zykotick9> Fyodorovna: if you just give !time in the channel you get the NTP factoid, if you "/msg ubotto !time" it returns the current time/date
[01:16] <Fyodorovna> zykotick9, ah I'm a bit slow, well most of the time really. :)
[01:16] <CFHowlett> !aircrack|philipballew
[01:17] <philipballew> CFHowlett, I know what it is :)
[01:19] <trism> Josh|Killjoy: sudo apt-get install python3; I don't know what the others are talking about
[01:20] <GASSYPOOTS> Hello
[01:26] <skmsmslk> how to write and compile the c++ ?
[01:28] <itaylor57> skmsmslk, you will need the build-essentials and and ide of some sort or an editor at a minum
[01:28] <itaylor57> !ide
[01:30] <skmsmslk> i had install build-essentials but i donot where to write and how to compile ?
[01:30] <itaylor57> skmsmslk, http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
[01:34] <Dogears> How do I check which java versions are installed?
[01:35] <itaylor57> Dogears, to check which java you are using type java -version in terminal
[01:36] <itaylor57> Dogears, to set which java sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:38] <GhostRyder> Holy moly
 it not working ?
[01:38] <itaylor57> skmsmslk, what is not working?
[01:39] <skmsmslk> it is not describing briefly ?
[01:39] <GhostRyder> I have never seen this many people in one chat room
[01:39] <itaylor57> skmsmslk, what version of ubuntu are you running,and what java have you installed?
[01:40] <celthunder> GhostRyder: there are bigger and smaller ones
[01:40] <skmsmslk> ubuntu 11.10 and i donot which version of java !
[01:40] <GhostRyder> Hello celthunder
[01:41] <itaylor57> skmsmslk, what is the output from "java -version" typed into terminal with out the quotes?
[01:42] <skmsmslk> The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:.............................
[01:45] <itaylor57> skmsmslk, read the following link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
 use openjdk to replace java
[01:46] <DJSKiDD> hi all
[01:46] <DJSKiDD> woops I need #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:47] <skmsmslk> are u serious !
[01:47] <skmsmslk> what is openjdk ?
[01:48] <hiexpo> !openjdk
[01:48] <itaylor57> skmsmslk, if you want to run oracle 7 follow this http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
 to install a program i use "netbeans" which uses java I have to use openjdk instead
[01:48] <KI7MT> skmsmslk, it's open-source implementation of the Java SE Platform
[01:49] <waxstone> Oracle (Sun) Java 6 is no longer available to be distributed by Ubuntu, because of license issues.
[01:50] <ablyss> do people still use java
[01:50] <skmsmslk> does it affect to c++ compiler ?
[01:50] <celthunder> skmsmslk: no
[01:50] <celthunder> ablyss: yes
[01:50] <waxstone> ablyss: if they have a mobile phone they do
[01:52] <skmsmslk> what is the best then ?
[01:52] <a5m0> is there a command to instantly sleep all discs?
[01:52] <waxstone> skmsmslk, you can still install sun java but you have to rely of PPA's
[01:54] <ablyss> thx celthunder and waxstone.  I forgot about cellphones
[01:54] <skmsmslk> one thing more i want know about  sql  and how to use in ubuntu ?
[01:56] <ablyss> besides cellphones I hardly ever use java on my pc
[01:56] <ablyss> does libre office use java
[01:57] <celthunder> ablyss: libre uses a ton of crap
[01:57] <ablyss> hahaha
[01:57] <celthunder> check the dependancies for java i guess
[01:58] <ablyss> i would guess no since it comes preloaded with ubuntu
[01:58] <waxstone> skmsmslk, you want to install a sql server like mysql? Or manage a server from your computer?
[01:59] <celthunder> skmsmslk: to use it install mysql-client then mysql -u <user> -p<pass> db
[01:59] <ablyss> the closest I come to using mysql is with mythtv
[02:00] <Poison> #animeka.tm
[02:00] <skmsmslk> no i want write and learn more only ?
[02:00] <celthunder> ablyss: my mail server uses it... and most web servers
[02:00] <celthunder> skmsmslk: what?
[02:01] <Dogears> I am trying to install Java on 10.10 at the moment - I used this http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en but I can't see that in installed correctly?
[02:01] <ablyss> celthunder, i run a simple http server.  I think I would get lots more gray hairs if i ran a mail server too ! :)
[02:01] <skmsmslk> i donot want to use server !
[02:01] <waxstone> skmsmslk, http://w3schools.com/sql/default.asp
[02:01] <celthunder> skmsmslk: then how the hell do you plan on using it
[02:01] <celthunder> ablyss: meh its easy and there are worse things to run.
[02:02] <waxstone> !java | Dogears
[02:02] <ablyss> hehe.. celthunder , if you say so.. cheif ! :)
[02:03] <dog_balls> how can I search for packages located in a certain repository ?
[02:03] <dog_balls> if I have that repo in my sources.list
[02:03] <ablyss> user accounts, filters, spam guards.. black lists.. ugh.. nightmares
[02:03] <celthunder> skmsmslk: i think you need to look up what you want to do your question made no sense waxstone w3school is pretty bad
[02:03]  * dog_balls shows his stuff to the public
[02:04] <waxstone> dog_balls, apt-cache search packagename, I think
[02:04] <dog_balls> waxstone: I'll give that a spin
[02:04] <ablyss> sudo apt-cache search ....
[02:04] <waxstone> celthunder, I didnt want to say google ;)
[02:04] <celthunder> ablyss: lol not the problem the problem is other idiot admins using things like barracuda rather than setting up there own filters
[02:05] <celthunder> waxstone: he needs to google so he can form a question that makes sense
[02:05] <dog_balls> how do I get the latest packages for boost ?
[02:05] <dog_balls> I tried the ppa from jkieran
[02:05] <googlemoomoo> how to run android app in ubuntu ?
[02:05] <Guest76761> How do I close pidgin, when I quit the program it just goes up to the little message icon on the top.
[02:05] <luciano> I need help to use lampp
[02:05] <celthunder> dog_balls: compile it from source using git/svn
[02:05] <celthunder> luciano: what about it
[02:06] <xangua> Guest76761: buddies - quit
[02:06] <savid> In the ubuntu installer, within the livecd, it gives "Install Ubuntu Inside Windows 7" as one of the options.  What does that mean?  What if I want to install ubuntu to a different partition?
[02:06] <dog_balls> celthunder: and if I want packages ?
[02:06] <celthunder> googlemoomoo: intstall the emulator
[02:06] <luciano> Whenever i start the lampp file i get a mysql error
[02:06] <celthunder> dog_balls: then idk lol it probably wont be up to date though
[02:06] <xangua> !dualboot | savid
[02:06] <luciano> Whenever i start the lampp file i get a mysql error
[02:06] <Guest76761> thanks!
[02:06] <dog_balls> celthunder: I can't really be bothered at this hour, late in the night, with 4h left of sleep to undergo such a hard task of compiling something, even hellworld
[02:06] <googlemoomoo> celthunder can the emulator run all app ? and where do get the emulator
[02:07] <xangua> googlemoomoo: get and install the android sdk
[02:07] <dog_balls> celthunder: that's why I'm usin ubuntu..
[02:07] <itaylor57> googlemoomoo, http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
[02:07] <savid> xangua: that page doesn't talk about the option  to "Install inside"
[02:07] <savid> xangua:  I don't understand what "install inside windows" means
[02:08] <googlemoomoo> the emulator can install app and run it ?
[02:08] <xangua> savid: it means with wubi
[02:08] <xangua> !wubi | savid
[02:08] <savid> xangua:  ButI'm not in wubi,  I'm in the livecd.
[02:09] <A-Lusion> hello my lovelies.
[02:09] <savid> xangua what exactly happens when I click "continue" with that option selected?  Will it just tell me to boot into windows and use wubi?
[02:09] <Guest76761> I downloaded the video/voice chat plugin for pidgin, now do I iniate a video chat?
[02:10] <xangua> Guest76761: pidgin supports voice and video with jabber protocol
[02:10] <Guest76761> Ohh, not with msn?
[02:10] <bobweaver> savid,  there are 3 options right install next to what ever this will make a daul boot happen. erase and install. this will wipe all data and and just install ubuntu and then there is other for if y0u have like 3 or more operating systems that you would like to boot
[02:10] <Guest76761> Is there any MSN program that supports video and voice?
[02:11] <xangua> savid: i have never seen an 'install Inside windws' option on the live session installer
[02:11] <savid> bobweaver:  so if I want to install ubuntu to another partion, I shouldn't select "install inside windows 7", right?
[02:11] <savid> xangua: it's definitely there :-P
[02:11] <Aucun> Guest76761: Skype?
[02:11] <bobweaver> install next too ? could you take a screenshot (print screen key ) and upload here
[02:11] <xangua> savid: won't yopu mean 'alongside' as in 'next to' ¿
[02:11] <Matrix> Anyone here ever install Ubuntu 64 on a alienware laptop ?
[02:11] <bobweaver> !screenshot | savid
[02:12] <Guest76761> Aucun, most of my contacts are on msn :(
[02:12] <xangua> !anyone 1 bobweaver
[02:12] <xangua> !anyone | bobweaver
[02:13] <savid> xangua: bobweaver: yeah, I want to install "alongside", but it doesn't give that option.   One sec I'll get a screenshot.
[02:13] <Aucun> Guest76761: I've never used msn to be honest, but I know skype would be the way to go for video and voice.
[02:13] <bobweaver> thanks savid
[02:13] <savid> oh, wait I don't have a print key
[02:13] <savid> old fashion way then
[02:13] <Guest76761> Okay, what's a good skype program?
[02:13] <Matrix> google.
[02:14] <xangua> Guest76761: skype.com
[02:14] <bobweaver> Guest76761,   I use Ekiga softphone for Voip not the best but does the trick
[02:14] <chao> savid,you may partition the hdd manually to install alongside with your current system
[02:14] <Guest76761> Thanks.
[02:15] <savid>
[02:15] <savid> xangua: bobweaver: http://i.imgur.com/oQRAP.jpg
[02:15] <Guest32722> ？
[02:16] <invalid> [drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* EDID checksum is invalid, remainder is 204 <- Any fix?
[02:16] <A-Lusion> Is it possible to boot from a NAS?
[02:16] <bobweaver> savid,  yes the first option will daul boot
[02:16] <A-Lusion> Within a LAN
[02:17] <Phr3d13> i set up a proxy to be able to update my ubuntu, but i no longer need it, but can't get rid of it, answers from google searches didn't help
[02:17] <savid> bobweaver:  but why does it say "inside" windows, and not "alongside"?
[02:17] <bobweaver> savid,  not sure good question
[02:17] <savid> I guess might as well just do it manually.  Just worried I'm going to mess up the windows install.
[02:18] <bobweaver> savid,  you could suggest or file a bug about that here https://launchpad.net/ubiquity
[02:20] <savid> bobweaver: yeah, unfortunately I'd like to get this installed :-P    I'm just not sure how to install it so that it knows to make grub entries for both OS's
[02:20] <A-Lusion> I'm setting up dual booting on my pc too, I just got a fresh harddrive ready to be conditioned to my bidding.
[02:21] <A-Lusion> What are you reading from? I was thinking of dual booting Windows 7 and Precise
[02:21] <Guest76761> Is there anything special I need to do to get ubuntu on an SSD?
[02:21] <A-Lusion> however my windows 7 boot is not a seperate partition but instead within my c:/
[02:21] <savid> I remember last time I tried this, it asked me if I wanted to install alongside windows.   No it's just asking if I want to install "inside" windows.  Ugh.
[02:22] <bobweaver> savid take your time and  take screenshots and let us know about questions
[02:22] <Phr3d13> savid, are you in windows with the disc in, or did you boot from the disc?
[02:22] <savid> bobweaver:  no, I am not in windows.  I have booted from the livecd.
[02:22] <Guest76761> Is there a better music app than Banshee?
[02:22] <savid> Phr3d13:   no, I booted from the livecd
[02:23] <celthunder> savid: uhm run the normal installer make a paritition for ubuntu leave the windwos one in tackt and it will add ithem for you
[02:23] <celthunder> Guest76761: yes lots mpd is really really nice
[02:23] <savid> celthunder:  So if I just do "something else" option,  it will automatically add the grub entry for me?
[02:23] <celthunder> Guest76761: mpd/mpc work great
[02:23] <celthunder> savid: whats the something else?
[02:23] <savid> celthunder:  http://i.imgur.com/oQRAP.jpg
[02:24] <Guest76761> Do I just search MPD in software center?
[02:24] <savid> celthunder:  this is what I get when I choose "Install Ubuntu" from the livecd
[02:24] <savid> celthunder:  and, I'm booted into the livecd, not into windows
[02:25] <bobweaver> savid,  question do you want to have ubuntu and windows installed ?
[02:25] <bobweaver> or just ubuntu ?
[02:25] <savid> bobweaver:  both
[02:25] <bobweaver> or jsut windows ?
[02:25] <bobweaver> pick the first options
[02:25] <celthunder> savid: uhm choose something else yeah....why does it say inside windows.. thats a dumb option
[02:25] <savid> bobweaver:   but I don't want it installed "inside" windows
[02:25] <bobweaver> savid,  dont worry about that
[02:25] <savid> bobweaver:  I want it installed in another partition that I already have up
[02:25] <celthunder> savid: choose something else
[02:25] <bobweaver> ohh
[02:26] <savid> bobweaver: the wubi docs say that  "inside" windows means literally inside,  not in a different partition
[02:26] <bobweaver> that is a different story all togeather
[02:26] <savid> which is why I'm hesitant to choose that option
[02:26] <celthunder> savid: you are using wubi??? go get the normal installer
[02:26] <savid> I just don't understand why that option is showing in the livecd installer,  and not the "alongside" option.
[02:26] <bobweaver> savid,  you partitioned the hardrive allready  ?
[02:26] <savid> celthunder:  no,  I'm not using wuby
[02:26] <reith2004> savid yea choose something else to create/select the partition
[02:26] <savid> bobweaver: yes,  I already have partitions set up (i set up partitions before I installed windows)
[02:27] <celthunder> savid: ok good then choose something and pick your partitions
[02:27] <bobweaver> read what reith2004 just said
[02:27] <savid> reith2004:  if I choose something else and do it manually,  will it create the grub entry for windows so that I can still boot windows?
[02:27] <celthunder> savid: yes
[02:27] <savid> ok, trying that now.
[02:28] <celthunder> you pick where/what gets added to grub
[02:28] <reith2004> savid yea if you install it right.. it will create grub bootloader
[02:28] <no-name-> I'm trying to setup a dualboot system (Windows 7 (already installed), Xubuntu 11.10), just resized the Windows 7 partition to make room but I'm not sure whether to make the partition for linux a Primary or Logical partition?
[02:29] <celthunder> no-name-: depends on how you want to set it up and how many partitions you have
[02:30] <celthunder> no-name-: you get up to 4 primary if its a mbr gpt may have different limits
[02:30] <no-name-> celthunder: well I just want window's two partitions and xubuntu's 2 (swapspace and main), and I want the grub boot loader
[02:31] <celthunder> no-name-: then you can make all primary
[02:31] <no-name-> ok
[02:31] <no-name-> thanks
[02:32] <Phr3d13> i can't get update manager or apt-get to forget the proxy i used to need
[02:32] <Xajin> join #chef
[02:32] <no-name-> celthunder: do I have to explicitly/manually create a swap partition along with the / partition, or will the installer just do it for me?
[02:33] <celthunder> no-name-: make one.... or i always do... i usually install ubuntu with debootstrap....
[02:33] <no-name-> ok
[02:34] <no-name-> how big should I make it? I have 8 gb of ram
[02:34] <celthunder> depends...
[02:34] <celthunder> are you going to use it
[02:34] <no-name-> dunno
[02:35] <CFHowlett> no-name-   with that much ram, you should use 64 bit ubuntu for speedier performance ...
[02:35] <celthunder> if you are not going to use all 8 gb and not use suspend dont bother with one at all
[02:35] <no-name-> CFHowlett: yeah, it's 64-bit xubuntu
[02:35] <nOStahl> hi guys, is there a way to boot off my usb drive from an ubuntu cd?
[02:36] <celthunder> nOStahl: yes
[02:36] <TroN-0074> 2 GB for swap is enough
[02:36] <nOStahl> how so
[02:36] <hawaii12> come join channel sealion
[02:36] <celthunder> nOStahl: add your usb drive as a grub entry when it comes up
[02:36] <celthunder> hawaii12: no
[02:36] <TroN-0074> and  Linux will boot from a logical or primary partition just fine
[02:36] <hawaii12> "/join #sealion"
[02:37] <nOStahl> ? I have an ubuntu server 32bit cd
[02:37] <celthunder> nOStahl: ok? so
[02:37] <nOStahl> and ubuntu server 64bit on my flash drive i want to boot (towers not booting from it even though the tower boots from other flash drives )
[02:38] <nOStahl> so I'm setting at the first screen that pops up asking for language
[02:38] <TroN-0074> is the flash drive damaged?
[02:38] <celthunder> nOStahl: boot to the cd then tell grub where the usb is.
[02:38] <nOStahl> how do I boot to grub
[02:39] <celthunder> nOStahl: uh it should be the first thing you see when the cd boots
[02:40] <kadri> hello
[02:40] <nOStahl> ? its the screen that says Ubuntu and install ubuntu server / enlist system with ubuntu orchestra server .. etc
[02:40] <kadri> hello
[02:40] <celthunder> kadri: ?
[02:40] <celthunder> nOStahl: possibly.
[02:41] <nOStahl> ?
[02:41] <kadri> hey
[02:41] <Phr3d13> i can't get update manager or apt-get to forget the proxy i used to need
[02:41] <kadri> kanena elinas edo
[02:41] <zykotick9> Phr3d13: check /etc/apt/apt.conf for the proxy line
[02:41] <kadri> help
[02:41] <skmsmslk> how to install tv tunar driver ?
[02:41] <Phr3d13> its not there, there isn't anything there
[02:42] <celthunder> kadri: with what??
[02:42] <celthunder> skmsmslk: install the module then modprobe it
[02:42] <CFHowlett> !gr|kadri
[02:43] <skmsmslk> i donot know how to it ?
[02:44] <Phr3d13> zykotick9, that file is empty
[02:44] <zykotick9> Phr3d13: ya i saw your reply, sorry i have no idea then.  good luck.
[02:44] <k3y> hi matez?
[02:44] <Phr3d13> darn
[02:44] <TroN-0074> yo wud up!
[02:44] <celthunder> k3y: hi
[02:45] <k3y> nm new to this whole IRC chat ... it's like a foreign world
[02:45] <TroN-0074> what kind of chat did you do before?
[02:45] <k3y> none lol
[02:45] <CFHowlett> k3y   this is the ubuntu support channel.  General chitchat can be had in #ubuntu-offtopic, but if you have a specific support question please ask
[02:45] <k3y> well ok, didn't know that >.>
[02:46] <celthunder> TroN-0074: ytalk
 plz  tell me about module and modprobe ?
[02:47] <TroN-0074> ytalk was irc base too wasnt?
[02:47] <DigitalNinja> So I downloaded and installed skype. When I turn it on it freezes up my computer and then the program crashes.
[02:48] <k3y> how did you install it?
[02:48] <celthunder> TroN-0074: it was before irc... it sucked lol bit like using netcat... sure you can does not make it good
[02:48] <CFHowlett> DigitalNinja   what version of ubuntu
[02:48] <DigitalNinja> 11.10
[02:48] <celthunder> skmsmslk: what card what have you tried etc
[02:48] <DigitalNinja> I downloaded the .deb off their website. Opened it in the software center and installed it from there.
[02:49] <CFHowlett> DigitalNinja   I don't know why skype is acting up, but i'm not surprised.  Linux skype development halted some time ago.  Now that's it
[02:49] <celthunder> TroN-0074: :) i gave it because other than bbs there really werent many things to talk with before irc
[02:49] <CFHowlett> is owned by microsoft, expect zero development or support.
[02:49] <skmsmslk> even i donot know how to get version detail by terminal !
[02:49] <TroN-0074> o.k so I thought freezes only happen in ubuntu if you have a kernel panic which is cause by a missing driver when using a piece of software is that true?
[02:49] <DigitalNinja> Is there any alternative? I need a program that either handles skype or MSN webcam chat.
[02:49] <k3y> <--- looking for the tutorial that I used
[02:49] <celthunder> TroN-0074: no that is far from true
[02:50] <CFHowlett> DigitalNinja   lemme look ...
[02:50] <DigitalNinja> Thanks.
[02:50] <celthunder> DigitalNinja: pidgin
[02:50] <xangua> DigitalNinja: skype handles skype voice/video chat
[02:50] <k3y> http://techie-buzz.com/foss/how-to-install-skype-ubnutu.html
[02:50] <DigitalNinja> xangua, skype crashes.
[02:50] <CFHowlett> DigitalNinja   facebook has skype integration iirc ...
[02:50] <CFHowlett> i.e. you don't have to be running skype to chat
[02:50] <celthunder> er nvm no video in pidgin
[02:50] <k3y> Any good programming IRC rooms?
[02:50] <TroN-0074> doesnt empathy support video interaction?
[02:51] <k3y> pidgin > empathy
[02:51] <k3y> =D
[02:51] <xangua> CFHowlett: DigitalNinja with a plugin only for windows and osx
[02:51] <celthunder> k3y: /list or in general #<language> on freenode (this network)
[02:51] <TroN-0074> but empathy is already installed in ubuntu isnt?
[02:51] <celthunder> empathy is a massive fail
[02:51] <CFHowlett> xangua   grr.   ty
[02:52] <k3y> yeah I was reading the specs of it.. it blows
[02:52] <CFHowlett> DigitalNinja   see amsn
[02:52] <k3y> celthunder <languge> could equal like <c++>
[02:52] <k3y> ?
[02:52] <DigitalNinja> amsn hasn't been update and microsoft changed the protocols for webcams I tried it.
[02:52] <celthunder> k3y: /join #c++
[02:52] <k3y> o wow
[02:52] <CFHowlett> DigitalNinja   grr.
[02:53] <k3y> y i no connect
[02:53] <k3y> !
[02:53] <celthunder> k3y: ?
[02:53] <celthunder> k3y: try ##c++
[02:53] <k3y> ##c++
[02:53] <k3y> oops
[02:53] <celthunder> with the join
[02:53] <DigitalNinja> Ooo Empathy works for it.
[02:54] <wrektjet> so... i have a webcam that suddenly isnt being found by 11.10. any ideas on what i can do besides rebooting?
[02:54] <shaneo> is there anyway to get file sharing to work with uverse via ubuntu or is that a feature only windows users get
[02:54] <k3y> hmm, not able to send
[02:54] <waxstone> k3y: type ---> /join #c++
[02:54] <k3y> do I have to register or something?
[02:54] <waxstone> works for me
[02:54] <celthunder> waxstone: thats what i said
[02:54] <k3y> invite only
[02:54] <xangua> !register | k3y
[02:54] <waxstone> you need to register your nickname
[02:54] <k3y> ah
[02:54] <celthunder> k3y: /msg nickserv help
[02:55] <celthunder> shaneo: what protocal does it use
[02:55] <KI7MT> worked for me too
[02:55] <waxstone> celthunder: has an issue with english
[02:55] <shaneo> celthunder, not sure but att says it needs windows media player streamer so whatever that uses
[02:56] <celthunder> waxstone: what? I speak English quite well...
[02:57] <celthunder> shaneo: you can probably get it to work...
[02:57] <waxstone> celthunder: not you =)
[02:57] <celthunder> yay skm left...hope he finds google
[02:58] <TroN-0074> looks like Empathy did it for DigitalNinja good!
[02:58] <shaneo> celthunder, wmp or just figure it out lol i cant find anything on it anywhere
[02:59] <shaneo> and uverse doesnt recognize anything im sharing
[02:59] <celthunder> shaneo: try mplayer
[02:59] <shaneo> celthunder, ok what about vlc also ?
[02:59] <celthunder> it handles pretty much anything
[03:00] <TroN-0074> are you sharing over your network?
[03:00] <celthunder> shaneo: i dont know i dont like vlc.
[03:00] <TroN-0074> like throught your router?
[03:00] <shaneo> TroN-0074, yeah via uverse
[03:00] <shaneo> uverse has digital media streaming options
[03:01] <TroN-0074> so if you open nautilus and browse the network does your files appear there?
[03:01] <shaneo> yes
[03:01] <shaneo> but uverse box isnt seeing them
[03:01] <TroN-0074> then you can just open them with vlc if that is what you like
[03:03] <shaneo> TroN-0074, im trying to use the uverse feature which has no ubuntu support or any linux at all so im trying to find a way to get it to work
[03:03] <skmsmslk> how to register irc ?
[03:03] <user1233333> can someone suggest some way to checksum filesystem level? I have a large raid that i want to ensure the data is correct. Something like xfs. problem is that xfs doesn't allow growing of raid 6 arrays
[03:04] <shaneo> skmsmslk, /nickserv register <email> <password>
[03:04] <CFHowlett> &#$!!!  Hotmail just reset my inbox - evolution re-delivered 4000 messages for me to sort
[03:04] <shaneo> skmsmslk, /nickserv identify <password>
[03:04] <TroN-0074> is uverse the internet service by AT&T
[03:04] <celthunder> user1233333: fsck?
[03:04] <celthunder> TroN-0074: yes
[03:04] <shaneo> TroN-0074, yes
[03:04] <zirpint> user1233333, zfs maintains chksums
[03:04] <skmsmslk> from where it is done ?
[03:04] <user1233333> zfs doesn't allow easy raid growth like mdadm does
[03:05] <TroN-0074> o.k I have a different service so I dont know how to do that you are trying to do
[03:05] <user1233333> i need/want something below mdadm level so that mdadm can correct
[03:05] <Datz> Hi, I want to add a ppa, with instructions on using: add-apt-repository which is not found.
[03:05] <TroN-0074> ubuntu is not available in ZFS I dont think
[03:06] <TroN-0074> as far as I know is still in ext4
[03:06] <zirpint> zfs, btrfs etc
[03:06] <TroN-0074> btrfs is under develop so it might not work correctly at this time
[03:07] <TroN-0074> I havent hear much about it
[03:07] <TroN-0074> I think opensuse started using it
[03:08] <KI7MT> zfs info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[03:09] <scientes> multi seat pls!!
[03:09] <zirpint> anyway there are some bolt-ons you can do at the user level, like fswatch to monitor the disk checksums
[03:12] <user1233333> Ok, so here is the problem. I can't/don't want to use XFS because XFS does not allow for simple growing of RAID 6 arrays(aka pools). This is a very large filestore(4tb atm, growing at about 400 gigs per month). It is write once read multi. I want a way to ensure that the data I'm reading is correct, otherwise have the MDADM repair the block(mark it as bad and then write it else where using parity calculations). BTRFS may have th
[03:12] <user1233333> fsck
[03:12] <user1233333> and does not support raid 6 natively YET
[03:14] <tensorpudding> btrfs is not yet stable and if you use it you have decent risk of data loss.
[03:15] <scientes> btrfs IS stable, but only on a stable machine
[03:15] <scientes> its ability to recover after a hard shutdown is not great, yet
[03:16] <roasted_> Question - If my home directory is 755 permissions (jason:jason) and I want Kristi to back up her data to a folder on my home directory, if I create a folder within my home directory and give it 775 perms (jason:kristi) she'll be able to have full access to that folder, despite the parent home directory being 755 jason:jason, right?
[03:16] <scientes> btrfs gave me confindence to upgrade to 12.04 with an ability to roll back if it didn't go well
[03:16] <shaneo> roasted_, yes
[03:17] <shaneo> roasted_, but shouldnt your home drive have 777 and her 755
[03:17] <scientes> roasted_, as long as she has execute permissions on every directory that is a parent of the target directory
[03:17] <user1233333> I'm not worried about hard shut downs. This is a server that is write once, so it is very unlikely that I will be writing during a hard shutdown. but it doesn't implement raid 6 yet. would mdadm on top have the ability to recover from checksum errors and correct the data?
[03:17] <scientes> i.e. o+x
[03:18] <roasted_> shaneo, no, home permissions default to 755
[03:18] <scientes> user1233333, btrfs has alot of benifits based on being COW
[03:18] <roasted_> shaneo, I didn't want to chnage that. I just wanted to add a folder on it for her to back up to
[03:18] <shaneo> roasted_, oh oops sorry
[03:18] <zirpint> do you have cron.d/mdadm    it runs a consistency check every week
[03:18] <zirpint> md doesn't do parity check on read, because its slow in software, but your adapter may support it. you can turn it on at the hardware level possibly
[03:19] <user1233333> scientes, i really don't care about how i do this, i just need a solution that will meet my needs: checksumming, ability to add drives to raid(like mdadm grow), and the ability to recover errors on reads from parity
[03:20] <zirpint> you need to use a diff fs or use hardware that supports parity check on read
[03:20] <zirpint> md + ext wont do parity check on read
[03:20] <scientes> user1233333, eother XFS or btrfs then
[03:20] <KI7MT> I think he should look at the ZFS option as well.
[03:21] <scientes> no
[03:21] <user1233333> scientes, damn. xfs doesn't support growing raid z2 very well(you have to add a whole new pool), so btrfs will probably be needed. and that scares me that it isn't production yet. I don't want to lose my data/have corruption.
[03:21] <scientes> don't do ZFS
[03:21] <scientes> user1233333, oracle is going to put btrfs into production VERY soon
[03:21] <KI7MT> why
[03:21] <scientes> and almost certainly in fedora 18 as well
[03:21] <scientes> so youll be 6 months ahead
[03:22] <user1233333> scientes, with no fsck and the fact that they tell you not to use it in prod yet, i kinda doubt that. but i have no data to back that up
[03:22] <scientes> user1233333, there is a fsck, it just isn't realeased yet
[03:23] <scientes> and ZFS doesn't have a fsck
[03:23] <Guest68935> I just bought a mini itx box with an atom 2700, tried to run ubuntu from a thumb drive on it, and it works, but I can't change screen resolution from 640x480... any ideas?
[03:23] <zirpint> now if you're using raid3 or raid4, they do parity check on read by default. but raid5 doesn't
[03:23] <abellong> Hello, Now I'm using ubuntu 11.10, and I want to try ubuntu 12.04 beta1. The update-manager doesn't prompt ubuntu is available. My laptop still has some free disk space. I can think of two ways to try 12.04 beta1: 1. Upgrade from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 beta1 using a liveusb. 2. Install 12.04 beta1 along with 11.10. Which is better?
[03:24] <zirpint> but raid5 is faster on modern hw
[03:24] <CFHowlett> abellong   keep 11.10.  installl virtualbox.  install 12.04 to virtual box.  12.04 is beta NOT ready for prime time.
[03:24] <user1233333> scientes, exactly. that is why i am wary to use it. it would be great if they had raid 6 implemented as well, because i think that is on the road map. it is just scary using a non prod recommended fs on 4+tb of data
[03:24] <zirpint> if the data is mission critical, use raid4 or a controller that enforces parity checks on read
[03:25] <scientes> WTF is raid4?
[03:25] <scientes> is it raid 1+0?
[03:25] <user1233333> raid 4 is just raid 5 except parity is on one disk
[03:25] <abellong> Thank you CFHowlett, but I want to try to test whether it's support my laptop
[03:25] <user1233333> raid 5 is a huge improvement over 4 and no one uses 4
[03:25] <zirpint> raid4 is multiple data disks and one parity disk
[03:25] <user1233333> and i'm pretty sure raid 4 doesn't enforce parity checks on every read....
[03:26] <abellong> If it hash some issues, I could report bugs. Can it be tested in virtualbox?
[03:27] <Zagaba> Hi. I'm looking for a way to boot directly on a tty.
[03:28] <zirpint> user1233333: thats how raid3/4 works. it reads all the drives simultaneously and checks against the parity bit
[03:28] <zykotick9> !text | Zagaba
[03:28] <zirpint> sequentially rather
[03:28] <zirpint> raid4 = block-level parity, raid3 = byte-level
[03:29] <Zagaba> ubottu: Thanks. I'll see if it work for me.
[03:29] <user1233333> zirpoint: raid 4 is just raid 5 except that the parity is written to one disk, instead of being distributed throughout the disks. it has the same n-1 storage but has bottlenecks on the parity. I don't think that raid 4 has been used for years. at least not in many places. I also think you are mistaken about it reading everything. There is no reason for it to do that
[03:30] <horseatingweeds> I just brought kubuntu out of 'sleep' mode, and it's a black screen with the mouse pointer. What's the hot-key combination to resart kde?
[03:31] <zirpint> user1233333: it has to check the parity because it reads each disk sequentially. that's how it knows if the drive failed or not
[03:31] <abellong> It's not good to discuss more than one topic at the same time, right? This is my first time to use IRC
[03:32] <user1233333> zirpint: doesn't it find out a drive has failed by getting block read failed errors? Like every other raid level?
[03:33] <CFHowlett> abellong   one question at a time ...
[03:37] <horseatingweeds> I've tried ctl+alt+bksp. Kubuntu came out of sleep with a blank screen.
[03:37] <PhantomPhreak53> Is there an easy way to see all packages that were installed by a specific ppa or source?
[03:37] <PhantomPhreak53> I think the ppa I was using had some bad packages and want to remove them
[03:40] <dema> hi
[03:41] <waxstone> PhantomPhreak53, /etc/apt/sources.list.d for PPA's. /etc/apt/sources.list for others
[03:41] <PhantomPhreak53> waxstone: I know what the ppa is but I want to see what packages it installed
[03:41] <waxstone> ahh
[03:42] <PhantomPhreak53> I really don't want to apt-cache policy each one :p
[03:43] <sacarlson> PhantomPhreak53: I have seen a way to remove them all before but not list them but let me at least look at the remove one
[03:44] <PhantomPhreak53> yeah I have messed around with ppa-purge but I would like to know what packages it is going to remove before I remove them
[03:44] <PhantomPhreak53> I know there is a way but either I have drank way too much tonight or just getting old
[03:44] <PhantomPhreak53> maybe a combo of both ;)
[03:45] <sacarlson> PhantomPhreak53: http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/  ppa-purge
[03:45] <PhantomPhreak53> sacarlson: yeah that just removes them
[03:45] <zirpint> user1233333: it depends on the implementation. checking parity is faster in raid3/4 since the parity is on a dedicated disk
[03:46] <zirpint> apart from the block you're reading
[03:46] <PhantomPhreak53> I want to see them first
[03:46] <zirpint> maybe md never checks parity on read
[03:46] <PhantomPhreak53> it may have installed stuff over and I just want to make sure I backup anything that may be affected just in case
[03:47] <waxstone> PhantomPhreak53, found this but not for PPA's http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:48] <sholea89> hello
[03:48] <frojnd> jow
[03:49] <researcher123> is it possible to backup my data like music,videos,docs, in compressed mode and stored freely on Internet for later recovery?
[03:50] <CFHowlett> researcher123   technically: sure!  Also, see recent FBI takedowns/seizures
[03:50] <waxstone> !ubuntuone
[03:53] <zirpint> http://www.midwestdatarecovery.com/raid-array-tutorial.html
[03:53] <zirpint> RAID4: "Each entire block is written onto a data disk. Parity for same rank blocks is generated on Writes, recorded on the parity disk and checked on Reads."
[03:54] <sacarlson> PhantomPhreak53: this looks like it also list ppa http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/y-ppa-manager-easily-search-add-remove.html
[03:54] <zirpint> this is inexpensive in raid4 because the parity disk can be read at the same time as the data disk, and less data needs to be retrieved
[03:55] <zirpint> in raid5, parity is distributed across all the disks - its mingled with data, so you'd be delaying data reads with an expensive random access read if you checked parity every time
[03:56] <KI7MT> zirpint, in raid-4 what happens if your parity disk fails?
[03:56] <researcher123> CFHowlett: whats that.guide me please
[03:57] <researcher123> CFHowlett: about backup n seizure by FBI?
[03:57] <zirpint> youre probably screwed KI7MT.. but it might try to recreate the parity bits based on the data on the other 2 drives
[03:57] <CFHowlett> researcher123   shrink your media.  Note that if you back it to ubuntu one, the limit of the free account is 5 gigabytes.
[03:57] <researcher123> CFHowlett: ok. n whats that FBI seizures? any security risk to our data?
[03:58] <CFHowlett> researcher123   right click on your file and send it to ubuntone - you HAVE set up your ubuntu one, right?
[03:58] <researcher123> CFHowlett: yews I have setup ubuntuone
[03:58] <KI7MT> zirpint, yeah, a single point failure on a mission critical data storage solution probably isn't wise.
[03:59] <zirpint> its recoverable because you have redundant stripes
[03:59] <CFHowlett> researcher123   fbi has pretty much stated that if it ends in .com, it's seizable.  Legit users get hurt just like illegal users if  a domain gets seized.  Can't see it happening to ubuntone but ...
[03:59] <zirpint> but the point is it halts when the data is corrupted, unlike raid5 (by default, without sw/hw parity checking on read)
[03:59] <researcher123> CFHowlett: ok
[03:59] <zirpint> so would you rather be notified when your disk returns garbage, or keep chugging along?
[03:59] <CFHowlett> researcher123   be aware that dropbox and most other could backups specifically exempt themselves from damages due to seizure cause by illegal use.
[04:00] <CFHowlett> *cloud*
[04:00] <researcher123> CFHowlett: ok.thats good
[04:00] <zirpint> i cant think of a mission-critical system that can accept corrupt data without any checks
[04:00] <zirpint> parity disk failing is like your server being set on fire.. you need geographically-redunant servers
[04:01] <zirpint> raid5 without parity-checking-on-read is a false sense of security
[04:01] <KI7MT> zirpint, if it were me, I'd be looking at getting a professional consultant to advise :-)
[04:01] <zirpint> im pretty sure most "enterprise" raid hardware has parity checking as an option, if not enabled by default
[04:02] <zirpint> *checking on read
[04:02] <zirpint> its probably slightly more expensive than the consumer versions
[04:03] <coleix1> Anyone has run rygel? is a dlna server and is giving an error that i can't find on google http://paste.ubuntu.com/874016/
[04:04] <zirpint> http://www.dba-oracle.com/oracle_tips_raid_usage.htm    some good suggestions on the various raid options for use with oracle
[04:04] <zirpint> they suggest RAID10 is the bestesst
[04:05] <KI7MT> They have allot of money though :-)
[04:05] <binger> celthunder: hi it's me from yesterday. I did get ubuntu up and running ok with both wireless and wired connectivity.  The wireless needed a driver. I am on the right track with the static ip for the wired too.  Downloaded 25gb of android rom repo just fine. Started the compile before we went for dinner and when we got back the screen was dark and couldn't get it to wake up.
[04:05] <coleix1> I installed the library for avidemux but didn't work, any ideas?
[04:05] <zirpint> yeah oracle is quite the cash-taker
[04:06] <zirpint> but hey, it may be worth it depending on your needs
[04:06] <binger> celthunder so i shut it down and restarted and now ubuntu won't boot up at all.  There's a message initially that says something like "HDIO get_identity failed /dev/sdc" and then it boots to an initramfs prompt
[04:07] <binger> I suspect that it either ran out of ram or out of disk space during the compile but do not know
[04:08] <biosystemaltered> fix up as this: error while loading shared libraries: libglut.so.3: can not open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:08] <binger> fortuantely i had mirc already installed on my old xp laptop so here i am.  So I need some advice please?
[04:09] <binger> I don't know anything about the initramfs prompt and what I should do now
[04:09] <biosystemaltered> how to install the libglut??
[04:10] <biosystemaltered> can anyone help me?
[04:11] <binger> I can boot from the livecd but don't know how to get to the previous install.  Can I install again over the other?
[04:11] <D-Chymera>  hi guys, I'm working in a molecular biology lab and I'd like to set up a system of short identifiers which I can write on my samples in order to unambiguously know what is what without cramming all the info on small labels. Do you know of any program that would be able to help me with this? It would be great if I can conveniently create new identifiers online (maybe even from my phone) and if it would have a permission/accounts system
[04:13] <biosystemaltered> does anyone know how to install libglut?
[04:13] <KI7MT> biosystemaltered, a few searches and it appears that's part of an app call: freeglut  do you have that installed? Im not familiar with it.
[04:14] <sacarlson> D-Chymera: does it have to be human readable?  how about barcode?  they have barcode readers for smartphones also to read them in the lab
[04:14] <coleix1> Any idea on a way to fix this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/874016/ on rygel?
[04:15] <zykotick9> !here | coleix1
[04:17] <scientes> coleix1, you have to explain what is going on, not just the error message
[04:17] <sacarlson> D-Chymera: and I would go with 2d barcode that can be any text/number or website that you wish
[04:17] <coleix1> Rygel is a dlna server, I'm trying to stream pushing it from my android to my tv but is giving me an error on rygel's side wich I can't find on google on a way to fix it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/874016/
[04:17] <zirpint>  "Recent large academic studies have identified the surprising frequency of silent read failures that are not identified or resolved in enterprise hard disk arrays despite the typical integrity  functions"
[04:18] <scientes> sacarlson, how many characters can those encode?
[04:18] <scientes> and is it just http://fo.var/etc
[04:18] <scientes> ?
[04:18] <scientes> encoded
[04:18] <sacarlson> scientes: I don't think there is a limit the graphic output just gets biger
[04:18] <scientes> ahh coool
[04:19] <zirpint> "In the case of disk-based archives, all RAID devices should have “parity check on read” enabled. Some RAID controllers support this, but others do not. And some RAID arrays support this feature but it causes significant performance degradation."
[04:20] <bazhang> zirpint, why paste that here
[04:20] <Lirth> When I try to boot from my USB drive for Ubuntu 64 bit 11.10 all I get is a black screen with a blinking underscore.
[04:20] <zirpint> "A recent academic study [1] of 1.5 million HDDs in the NetApp database over a 32 month period
[04:20] <zirpint> found that 8.5% of SATA disks develop silent corruption."
[04:20] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Lirth
[04:20] <KI7MT> bazhang, there's was a long discussion earlier about file systems and what to use etc etc.
[04:21] <bazhang> zirpint, lets stay on topic of ubuntu support please
[04:21] <coleix1> Or maybe someone knows of another dlna/upnp server that is not PMS, because PMS show a bunch of glitches on the video like artifacts.
[04:21] <Lirth> zykotick9: Thanks.
[04:22] <zirpint> so you could potentially have 15 errors per petabyte of data, if this study is accurate
[04:22] <zykotick9> coleix1: are you aware of mediatomb?  it's what suggested from the !upnp factoid - i've never used it myself...
[04:22] <bazhang> !ot | zirpint
[04:23] <zirpint> its likely other parts of your stack will detect the error - disk hardware fault, checksums at the network level etc
[04:23] <EZF> problem: my ubuntu 10.04 box can somehow get an dhcp assigned ip address from my router yet cannot ping that router or reach anything aside from other pc's on the same subnet. Any ideas what could cause this?
[04:23] <bazhang> zirpint, please stop
[04:23] <Lirth> I just disabled my touchbad and I can't reenable it. I have the hotkey for ctrl-alt-p but it's not working anymore.
[04:23] <coleix1> zykotick9: I don't think it has dlna, at least I haven't found it saying anywhere.
[04:24] <zirpint> i wouldnt worry about it, unless your disk is powering a nuclear plant or something
[04:24] <zykotick9> coleix1: i don't personally know what dlna even is, so i'm no help.  good luck.
[04:25] <coleix1> zykotick9: no idea on how to fix the gstreamer problem either?
[04:25] <binger> I need some help please.  See http://paste.ubuntu.com/874038/  celthunder was helping me yesterday.  Haven't used the paste.ubuntu.com before so hope that worked ok.
[04:25] <zykotick9> coleix1: nope...
[04:26] <zirpint> turning parity check on read is definitely something any critical disk should have. you can do periodic parity checks (resyncs) using linux md for less sensitive data. md actually does this by default every sunday with the std cron file it installs.
[04:27] <KI7MT> EZF, so your getting the dhcp IP address, but not able to ping outside your local LAN?
[04:27] <drklunk> hello
[04:28] <EZF> KI7MT, that's correct. I can ping other pc's on the subnet, yet can't even reach the gateway the ip address was assigned from... it worked fine last night, no updates now it reaches nothing.
[04:28] <drklunk> can someone whose got a few minutes message me? i need some help figuring out my ati drivers
[04:28] <KI7MT> EZF, Well I'd start with your Internet modem, reboot that, then the router, and try it again. Can any box ping outside the LAN or jsut not this particular box?
[04:30] <binger> Please see w it reaches nothing.
[04:30] <binger> [20:28] <drklunk> can someone whose got a few minutes message me? i need some help figuring out my ati drivers
[04:30] <EZF> KI7MT, I've rebooted all the devices involved and everything else can reach the router and past it with no problem. I'll try rebooting again if you think it would help.
[04:30] <binger> oops, not sure what happened there please ignore :)
[04:31] <KI7MT> EZF, well i can't hurt, but doesnt' sound as though thats the problem.
[04:31] <binger> Please don't ignore this though.  I have typed out the issue that I am having at http://paste.ubuntu.com/874038/.  Can someone please take a look at it and advise?
[04:31] <donsd> How do I configure emelfm2 font size. Or suggest better file manager for Ubuntu.
[04:32] <benn> How do you show hidden files in Dolphin?
[04:32] <Lirth> So I looked at the no mode set thing after having my problems. I can't find the screen listed. I run into GNU GRUB and can't set what I'm supposed to.
[04:33] <pangolin> benn: alt + .
[04:33] <EZF> KI7MT, it's very odd, I can connect to the ubuntu box with a tightvnc session from windows or even to the sftp server on it fine, and connect to the windows machine from the ubunto box just fine as well.
[04:33] <skmsmslk> how to install shell-user theme ?
[04:33] <MogDog66> WindPower: oh hai
[04:34] <sacarlson> binger: what kind of a device is /dev/sdc  is it a standard drive or maybe a solid state one?  I guess try fsk the disks from you live boot
[04:34] <lubuntu_> new user here, curious how i install java. thanks
[04:35] <waxstone> !java | lubuntu_
[04:35] <lubuntu_> hey ty :)
[04:36] <MogDog66> Stupid Oracle dropping Ubuntu suppport...
[04:36] <waxstone> np FAQ
[04:36] <KI7MT> EZF, Yeah, sounds like the box is working ccorretly, but its not finding the inet gateway properly.
[04:36] <Lirth> I had my laptop set to run sound for my second monitor and now, once I separated it, I can't get any audio from my laptop speakers.
[04:37] <zykotick9> MogDog66: it's not ubuntu specific, all gnu/linux distros affected.  Just "Stupid Oracle." is all you need ;)
[04:38] <skmsmslk> how to register irc ?
[04:38] <zykotick9> !register | skmsmslk
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> !register
[04:42] <oooaaaooo> hi guys, when is the non beta version of 12.04 coming out?
[04:42] <bazhang> oooaaaooo, april
[04:42] <waxstone> April
[04:42] <Lirth> When I try to install or boot from my flash drive I get the black screen. I was told to use nomodeset but I can't figure out how to use it.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: ask in #ubuntu+1 for pre-release stuff please
[04:42] <oooaaaooo> ubuntu+1?
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: what GPU do you use?
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: yes, this is #ubuntu   #ubuntu+1 for pre-release
[04:43] <waxstone> !precise | oooaaaooo
[04:43] <Lirth> ActionParsnip:EvGA GTX 570
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: even says in the motd when you join the channel
[04:43] <oooaaaooo> cool thnx
[04:43] <oooaaaooo> motd?
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: us:  nouveau.blacklist=1    instead
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: message of the day
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: *use
[04:44] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: How do I do that? This is my first time building a computer.
[04:44] <solo7773> I cannot login my msn with empthy on ubuntu
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: hold shift at boot
[04:44] <no-name-> hi. I just installed xubuntu x64 on my machine (twice) and when it booted up it'd show the flashing white - against a black screen for a while and then the screen would say "ATTENTION: OUT OF RANGE"
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> solo7773: does emesene login ok, or amsn?
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: what GPU do you use?
[04:45] <scientes> WOOT no mono in 12.04
[04:45] <scientes> just ubuntu-mono theme
[04:45] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: Nothing happened differently. It just went to the GRUB again.
 did you use your entire email as your id?
[04:45] <scientes> which we should get rid of if user hasn't installed mono
[04:45] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: Nvidia 7025
[04:45] <solo7773> yes <waxstone>
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> !info libmono-2.0-1 precise | scientes
[04:46] <waxstone> solo7773,  I have no issues logging in
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: add the boot option:  nouvea.blacklist=1
[04:47] <solo7773> no problem with your msn?
[04:47] <solo7773> waxstone
[04:47] <waxstone> logging in to account using empthy
[04:47] <solo7773> let me try again
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> scientes: mono is usd by f-spot and tomboy, both are in the repos, so mono is in 12.04
[04:48] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: strangely if I boot into the live usb stick first and then select "boot into first hard disk" from the unetbootin menu it throws me into a busybox shell
[04:48] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: how do I add the boot options? The shift thing does work.
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[04:48] <no-name-> no
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Lirth
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | no-name-
[04:49] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!
[04:49] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: I did select the "check disc for defects option" from the unetbootin menu however
[04:49] <ponrajuganesh> wont this command work on solaris?
[04:49] <no-name-> came up with nothing
[04:49] <ponrajuganesh> "find -L /EDITOR/DISTRIBUTOR/AIR/ -type f -newerct '-1 days'"
[04:49] <scientes> ActionParsnip, oh gotcha, still in main
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: thats good, only a good ISO can make a good CD :)
[04:49] <scientes> but not include with package ubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <scientes> which is what i installed
[04:49] <scientes> wait
[04:49] <bazhang> ponrajuganesh, ask in a solaris channel
[04:49] <scientes> this was just from the liveCD
[04:49] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: hehe, true
[04:50] <scientes> but anyways, not by default, horray
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> scientes: why didn't you just download the ubuntu desktop CD and install that.....
[04:50] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: That's one of my problems. I can only access GRUB when I boot. I can't get the welcome screen.
[04:50] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: to what file do I add nouvea.blacklist=1 and what does it do?
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: yes, thats because the nouveau driver is loading and your chip doesn't like it, hence the boot option
[04:50] <scientes> i would have installed the other way, but there is a nasty bug with grub
[04:51] <scientes> if you install a iso9660 to the SD card, and then partition it grub fails to install
[04:51] <__enum__> !ubuntu
[04:51] <scientes> cause it detects the former iso9660
[04:51] <panik> hello. i am having problems on my main machine using current stable build on a 780i motherboard. ethernet ports are not comming on. works fine on windows 7
[04:51] <__enum__> !shell
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: you don't add it to any file, its an option you add at boot. The option is added to only that boot
[04:51] <scientes> you have to zero out the beginning of the block device
[04:51] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: So how do I edit it? With the command line?
[04:51] <bazhang> __enum__, /msg ubottu
[04:51] <scientes> before creating the partition table
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | Lirth
[04:51] <no-name-> ActionParsnip, I don't get a prompt at boot though :(
[04:52] <binger> hi it's me from yesterday. I did get ubuntu up and running ok with both wireless and wired connectivity.  The
[04:52] <binger> wireless needed a driver. I am on the right track with the static ip for the wired too.  Downloaded 25gb of android rom repo
[04:52] <binger> just fine. Started the compile before we went for dinner and when we got back the screen was dark and couldn't get it to wake
[04:52] <binger> up.  so i shut it down and restarted and now ubuntu won't boot up at all.  There's a message initially that says something
[04:52] <binger> like "HDIO get_identity failed /dev/sdc" and then it boots to an initramfs prompt.   I suspect that it either ran out of ram
[04:52] <FloodBot1> binger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:52] <binger> or out of disk space during the compile but do not know.  fortuantely i had mirc already installed on my old xp laptop so
[04:52] <binger> here i am.  So I need some advice please?   I don't know anything about the initramfs prompt and what I should do now.
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: i believe you hold shift at boot, might be F6.
[04:53] <no-name-> ok
[04:53] <scientes> i initially used mini.iso so i could install in place
[04:53] <__enum__> !bazhang thank you
[04:53] <binger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/874038/
[04:53] <binger> i posted that earlier and haven't had a response yet.
[04:54] <bazhang> binger, giving some context please
[04:54] <number_one_1> hi, i got old laptop "compaq 2.2ghz 4gb ram and 250gb hd, what distro should be used 4 new user?
[04:54] <panik> it seems my ethernet ports are not powering on, on ubuntu. no network light on my router. any ideas?
[04:54] <binger> please see the paste
[04:54] <binger> i am stuck at initramfs
[04:54] <bazhang> binger, you get a busybox prompt?
[04:55] <binger> yes
[04:55] <scientes> binger, you need to set the UUID of your root drive correctly in /etc/fstab
[04:55] <skmsmslk> i am getting register for irc ?
[04:55] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: tried holding shift at boot... said GRUB Loading ... then "ATTENTION: OUT OF RANGE"
[04:55] <binger> how?
[04:55] <sacarlson> binger: I gave you a responce 20 minits ago
[04:55] <scientes> binger, 2nd person these last few das with this problem
[04:55] <bazhang> skmsmslk, in #freenode
[04:55] <scientes> binger, with a live CD
[04:55] <solo7773> what's the MSN server and ports?
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: try F6
[04:55] <scientes> and use sudo blkid to get the UUID of the root device
[04:55] <no-name-> ok
[04:55] <bazhang> skmsmslk, /join #freenode
[04:55] <scientes> binger, ^
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> !register | skmsmslk
[04:56] <binger> listening thank you
[04:56] <solo7773> can anyone tell me the MSN's server and port?
[04:56] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: I have no idea what happened differently. Before I couldn't even access what you were describing in the page. Then I got it to work magically. Any idea what I may have done differently?
[04:56] <donsd> Recommend a file manager for Ubuntu, anyone?
[04:56] <scientes> !nautilus | donsd
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> donsd: nautilus is in the default install
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> donsd: or try pcmanfm
[04:56] <zykotick9> mc or rox ;)
[04:56] <scientes> also, pcfamfm or thunar for lightweight file manager
[04:56] <panik> having a problem with my ethernet ports on ubuntu stable. they are not turning on, no light on router.
[04:57] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: F6 did the same thing only without the "GRUB Loading" (which only came up when I held shift)
[04:57] <solo7773> i think i need the right server and port to get my msn login
[04:57] <scientes> pcmanfm is really light weight
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: sniff around on the web to find the magic button you need. I'm doing the same
[04:57] <no-name-> ok
[04:57] <sacarlson> panik: maybe disabled in bios if internal built in?
[04:58] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: I just think that shift is the magic button, but the error occurs anyway
[04:58] <zykotick9> scientes: with pcmanfm's dependencies on fuse, i find it rather heavy -- everything is relative
[04:58] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: Do you know much about the nvidia drivers and which one I would have to download?
[04:59] <panik> i checked that. its working fine in windows. they are set to auto. its auto, or disabled so...
[04:59] <sacarlson> panik: sudo lshw | pastebinit  see what device and if it's seen at all
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: there are drivers in the ubuntu repos. You may need the xorg edgers update ppa as your chip will benefit from the 290 driver but its easily nstalled
[04:59] <panik> both port are seen, i see the mac addresses
[05:00] <panik> but, the router doesnt have a light on for it, and the led next to my computer port isnt on.
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: try ESC
[05:00] <sacarlson> panik: see that mac address how?  with ifconfig?
[05:00] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: I only started Linux in January. Could you simplify that?
[05:00] <panik> yes
[05:00] <panik> i have 2 ethernet ports
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: the driver is in the ubuntu servers ready for you. You don't have to maually download anything
[05:01] <panik> i booted into windows to see which one i was using, and copied it, then checked and it is there, but isnt active or something
[05:01] <zykotick9> Lirth: DON'T download nvidia driver - is probably simplest answer ;)
[05:01] <Lirth> Where do I find it then?
[05:01] <binger> sacarlson missed your earlier msg.  I don't know what dev/sdc is off hand.  There is the internal hard drive and 2 external ones attached to the laptop.
[05:01] <sacarlson> panik: is the power applied to your switch/router?  the two prongs that get ac?
[05:02] <binger> I am going to try scientes idea
[05:02] <bazhang> binger, what does sudo blkid say
[05:02] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: ESC did nothing either. this is where I got the iso, btw. it didn't come with an md5 file - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/oneiric/release/desktop/
[05:02] <panik> yes. other devices are connected currently and working.
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | no-name-
[05:02] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: I got amd64 via torrent
[05:02] <panik> its a nvidia board, so i imagine i need some drivers
[05:02] <sacarlson> panik: and this cat5 cable you say between this switch/router has worked in the past?
[05:03] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: it's Xubuntu, btw
[05:03] <panik> yes, 5 mins ago when in windows
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: same hashes link applies
[05:03] <no-name-> ok
[05:03] <celthunder> hi ActionParsnip
[05:03] <binger> bazhang haven't gotten so far as the sudo blkid yet, will post back in a bit
[05:03] <panik> im using a 780i ftw motherboard, if that helps
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: howdy
[05:04] <binger> booting with the livecd now
[05:04] <scientes> binger, cause usually if you got the UUID right in the kerel line, but wrong in /etc/fstab, then it dies on the remount the drive rw
[05:05] <scientes> but it got the device right in kernel/grub cause it managed to find the kernel and initrd
[05:05] <celthunder> binger: still having issues?
 booting with the livecd now
[05:05] <binger> there is an initial message of ata_id 732 HDIO_get_identity failed /dev/sdc
[05:05] <danny> would anyone be able to walk me through this theme im not quite sure how to do it i messed it up already http://malys777.deviantart.com/art/malys-BlueGlaSS-0-6-222596805?q=gallery%3Agnome-shell%2F28081982&qo=29
[05:06] <binger> celthunder different ones now  see http://paste.ubuntu.com/874038/ if interested
[05:06] <binger> thanks
[05:06] <sacarlson> panik: you say you see mac address but no ip?  what if you do a $dhclient eth0;  see what responce your cards do
[05:06] <donsd> scientes, ActionParsnip, thanks.  I'll try Nautilus because more users (to help me). I have not heard of pcmanfm, but will look at it also.
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> danny: under the pic there are step by step instructions......
[05:07] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: yeah, it's the wrong checksum. Strange though as I got it directly from xubuntu.com
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> danny: are you kidding?
[05:07] <celthunder> donsd: dont know what your issue was but pcmanfm is a file manager
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: doesn't matter
[05:07] <danny> ActionParsnip: haha idk how to add the ppa
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: the data can get mangled in transit and is WHY MD5 testing exists and is why I always ask
[05:08] <danny> ActionParsnip: the deb http....... all that stuff
[05:08] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: ahh
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> danny: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <danny> ActionParsnip: thanks thats what i was looking for
[05:08] <panik> im not sure how to do that command.
[05:08] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: how do you check whether the data was mangled between *your* hard disk and the usb?
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> danny: ad the line starting with:   deb http     to the file, save the changes and close gedit
[05:09] <panik> i tried it in terminal
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: there is a 'check usb' option on the first boot screen
[05:09] <no-name-> oh, right
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: or similar, but the data you have is damaged so I suggest you redownload it
[05:10] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: so is this likely what the problem is? are you sure the checksums are the same for xubuntu?
[05:10] <panik> says operation not prtmitted
[05:10] <sacarlson> panik: opps  $sudo dhclient eth0 ;  and I assume one of those devices are eth0 so change as needed
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: 5eaf65ba12f74b6c5b912cce2dae1762   is the hash for xubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: ab1e8b5707d888ac08a75e25b67059c6  for xubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:11] <binger> see http://paste.ubuntu.com/874069 for the results of the sudo blkid
[05:12] <panik> not getting anything
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: those are from the hashes page I made ubottu give
[05:12] <panik> nothing is comming up.
[05:13] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: that's the checksum I got
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: then why did you say it was the wrong checksum?
[05:13] <sacarlson> panik: but it didn't fail and no lights came on
[05:13] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: I tried it and it worked! I have no idea what I did differently.
[05:13] <binger> i'd sda1 is the root (c drive which is ntfs).  That UUID should go into /etc/fstab????
[05:13] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: I was looking here http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/11.10/MD5SUMS
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: what is the key?
[05:14] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: What is a key?
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: I gave you the link.....
[05:14] <mi3> Hello!
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: to add the boot option>
[05:14] <sacarlson> panik: I also have to assume that you did that to the ethX that you have pluged in?
[05:14] <ponrajuganesh> whether could we find the number of newly created files in a directory when given a specific time?
[05:14] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: I guess I didn't see it. Sorry :( I only saw the one with the regular Ubuntus
[05:15] <binger> celthunder or scientes see http://paste.ubuntu.com/874069 for result of the sudo blkid
[05:15] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: I have no idea. I've been running into so many irregular problems. I had something with caching for the first day but that vanished quickly. Today I had the driver thing. I just booted regularly and it worked somehow.
[05:15] <mi3> can I register my nick on this channel?
[05:15] <sacarlson> panik: we should look at the device and see if others have had problems with it as I asked above before for hardware info with sudo lshw | pastebinit
[05:15] <zykotick9> !register | mi3
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> !register | mi3
[05:15] <primenumber> Hey gang - is 12.04 worth an upgrade now?
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: anything you can pass on to no-name-
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> primenumber: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:16] <primenumber> ok thanks
[05:16] <celthunder> primenumber: sure
[05:16] <danny> ActionParsnip: now it cant find either of the packages
[05:16] <A-Lusion> I been meaning to ask...is there a repository for custom startup animations or themes
[05:16] <panik> yea no lights.
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> danny: I'd contact the author of the guide
[05:16] <panik> its weird. ive been searching the forums with no luck
[05:17] <sacarlson> panik: ya and no hardware info
[05:17] <linocisco> my squid ubuntu server with two NIC doesnt work. one is for wan IP and one is LAN
[05:17] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: I have no idea what I did.
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: was afraid you'd say that
[05:17] <sacarlson> panik: or did I just miss it with all the trafic I can't tell who you are responding too
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> linocisco: can you expand on 'doesn't work'. It's near meaningless
[05:18] <hawke_> Hello all…is there a way to type in a username at the login prompt in Precise?
[05:18] <Lirth> I just ran into an error when installing Ubuntu 11.10. It says "it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location". What does that mean and what should I do?
[05:18] <panik> could i just msg you the info? i cant really copy/paste it, as this is a different pc
[05:18] <celthunder> hawke_: what
[05:18] <zykotick9> hawke_: reask in #ubuntu+1
[05:18] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: Yeah. I didn't do anything differently. It just worked.
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> hawke_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for precise. The channel message does say
[05:18] <mi3> thanks ActionParsnip
[05:18] <hawke_> My bad
[05:18] <mi3> and thanks zykotick9 as well
[05:18] <celthunder> Lirth: that means install the bootloader in a valid location
[05:18] <linocisco> ActionParsnip, yes. I configured bind9 and squid as documenation said. but I can't get internet through proxy on my client
[05:19] <Lirth> celthunder: I am. I'm using my 1TB hard drive.
[05:19] <binger> What is the syntax for the fstab file?  Do I need to enter the uuid of the root drive?
[05:19] <celthunder> binger: you dont have to but you can
[05:19] <linocisco> ActionParsnip, my server and clients are also on Vbox as guest
[05:20] <panik> do you think i need the nforce drivers for linux?
[05:20] <binger> scientes suggested i do it since it won't boot into ubuntu.  what is the format of the line?
[05:20] <sacarlson> panik: we just need the line pertaining to the ethX device  maybe with just sudo lspci ;  if you can pick out that line
[05:20] <Lirth> celthunder: What might be causing it to do that?
[05:20] <binger> add "UUID= blah blah blah"?
[05:20] <celthunder> Lirth: what did you pick as the location
[05:20] <sacarlson> panik: nforce should work plug and play without any added drivers
[05:20] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: what do you think is wrong? :(
[05:21] <celthunder> binger: location where you want it modes order and something else
[05:21] <Lirth> celthunder: "/dev/sbd     ATA WDC... (1.0 TB)"
[05:21] <sacarlson> panik: oh maybe a irc conflic problem?  did this start happening when you added a secound ethX card?
[05:21] <celthunder> binger: the last two catn usually be 0 or 0 1
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: not sure, Lirth said s/he just booted and it worked randomly. There is a key to press and you will get the old school boot screen
[05:21] <Lirth> celthunder: Should I use "/dev/sdb1"?
[05:21] <binger> hmmm..
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: F6,shift and space are ones I can think of.
[05:22] <celthunder> Lirth: uhm what exactly did it fail with again
[05:22] <panik> no, my mb has 2 built in nic
[05:22] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: no-name-: I think I hit escape but I'm not sure. I know once I got to that screen f6 had the option I needed.
[05:22] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: when I held shift and only when I held shift it said "GRUB Loading", but then it would just go to "ATTENTION: OUT OF RANGE" after that as usual
[05:23] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: and esc and f6 did nothing
[05:23] <Lirth> celthunder: "...it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location."
[05:23] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: it boots into the live usb ok though
[05:23] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: just not into an installed xubuntu on the hdd
[05:23] <celthunder> Lirth: uhm check console what was the real error.... it should say more than that
[05:23] <mi3> i tried registering my nick but i have not received the email ActionParsnip
[05:23] <celthunder> mi3: #freenode or #help
[05:23] <Lirth> celthunder: How do I do that?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: ahhh then hold shift at boot and you can add the boot option there. Its the default behaviour in Grub2
[05:24] <mi3> celthunder: ok
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> mi3: ask in #freenode if you get issues
[05:24] <celthunder> Lirth: check console 1 or 6 usually those are the ones installers use
[05:24] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: but it still goes into the "ATTENTION OUT OF RANGE" thing
[05:24] <waxstone> no-name: try pressing shift multiple times not holding
[05:25] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: do you mean I can just type it in and press enter while it's saying "ATTENTION: OUT OF RANGE" and it will boot?
[05:25] <Lirth> celthunder: I should point this out. I started using Ubuntu this January. I have no idea what you're talking about.
[05:25] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: I can still get into the file system via the live usb if that's what you're wanting
[05:25] <celthunder> Lirth: where are you installing grub from
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: you may need to use a liveCD and edit a file to make the module not load. You could even chroot and install updates which may help too
[05:26] <Lirth> celthunder: My usb?
[05:26] <clokcs> Can anyone help me with wubi?
[05:26] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: eh, maybe I should just install again with the "install updates while installing" option?
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: yes, use the file manager to mount the ubuntu partition, then run:  gksudo nautilus     you can now enter the partition and edit the files
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: possibly
[05:26] <celthunder> clokcs: no not if you dont give a problem
[05:26] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: what do you want me to change?
[05:27] <celthunder> Lirth: ctrl alt f6
[05:27] <celthunder> Lirth: do you see a terminal with any additional info
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: the file will be /media/somename/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[05:27] <clokcs> Well, I am needing to use wubi for another distro, on the information page about wubi on ubuntu it states that you can use it for another distro (my modified version of ubuntu) but I cant find the source code of wubi
[05:27] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: BRB
[05:27] <clokcs> or a simple way of having it just use my distro
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: the 'somename' will be a long hexadecimal name
[05:27] <Lirth> celthunder: It welcomes me and tells me how to use sudo commands.
[05:27] <no-name-> yep
[05:28] <celthunder> Lirth: ok try to install grub from there
[05:28] <Lirth> celthunder: How do I do that?
[05:28] <celthunder> Lirth: i think ubuntu uses grub2 no idea i still use legacy
[05:28] <clokcs> So anyone?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: add the line:    blacklist nouveau      save the new file and close gedit, then reboot. May help
[05:29] <celthunder> clokcs: what?
[05:29] <Lirth> so should I use "sudo apt-get install grub"? It's what it recommended when I typed grub.
[05:29] <clokcs> celthunder: I need to use wubi to install my modified version of ubuntu
[05:29] <celthunder> clokcs: you want to install a distro... ok...
[05:29] <celthunder> clokcs: so....whats the issue
[05:29] <clokcs> celthunder: I cant figure out how to get it to do that
[05:29] <celthunder> Lirth: sure
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: you can always use this from the live usb too: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/    it will use a chroot and you can load updates as well as add the boot option
[05:30] <Lirth> celthunder: "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error (1)"
[05:31] <Lirth> celthunder: Also, how do I get out of the ctrl-alt-f6?
[05:31] <celthunder> Lirth: did it say its already in use? ctrl alt f7
[05:31] <Lirth> celthunder: nope
[05:32] <clokcs> celthunder: I cant figure out how to get wubi to install another ubuntu
[05:33] <Lirth> celthunder: I'm just going to guess and use the "/dev/sdb1". As I understand it, that's a partition on my hard drive.
[05:33] <celthunder> Lirth: it is
[05:33] <celthunder> its on disk 2 partition 1 then
[05:34] <Lirth> celthunder: "Executing 'grub-install /dev/sdb1' failed". This is a fatal error.
[05:34] <celthunder> Lirth: lol... is your mbr set up right
[05:34] <Lirth> celthunder: mbr?
[05:35] <syddraf> I just got my new Dell laptop and installed Xubuntu on it. When I install nvidia-current as my driver and run nvidia-xconfig, then restart X, X will not restart. I have to rm my xorg.conf file in order to get it to start back up again. Can anyone help me with this?
[05:35] <DJ> Lirth, how did you install ubuntu and which release are you having issues with?
[05:35] <Valrin> I am in need of serious help with Ubuntu
[05:35] <Lirth> DJ: I did the "Try Ubuntu" from my usb and then clicked the installer. I'm using 11.10 64 bit.
[05:36] <DJ> ok
[05:36] <DJ> do you have any others os, install on the Hard drive?
[05:36] <celthunder> Valrin: ?
[05:36] <Valrin> Well, I cannot edit my packages. And I am getting a weird error
[05:36] <Lirth> DJ: This is my brand new, home built computer. It's completely empty.
[05:36] <DJ> okey,
[05:36] <DJ> how many hard drives do you have one?
[05:36] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: I altered blacklist.conf like you said and it made no change
[05:37] <DJ> !tell Lirth about paste
[05:37] <DJ> Lirth, paste me this command df -h
[05:37] <Lirth> DJ: 2. I have the HDD for Linux which I'm setting up now and the SSD for Windows (yay games).
[05:38] <DJ> Okay
[05:38] <Lirth> DJ: Where do I do the command?
[05:38] <DJ> in your tt1 or tt2 terminal
[05:38] <DJ> or do you have the X running at all?
[05:38] <Lirth> DJ: X?
[05:38] <Valrin> This is the error I receive
[05:39] <DJ> Yeah Graphical User Interface
[05:39] <Valrin> E:Type 'n' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-wine-ppa-lucid.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.
[05:39] <clokcs> Is there anyone that can help me with wubi, I am trying to make it install a personalized version of ubuntu from my desktop.
[05:39] <Valrin> And I cannot remove the n
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: try thechroot
[05:39] <binger> this is what i entered in the last line of fstab:  /dev/sda1 / ext4 defaults 0 0   does that sound right? I rebooted after making that edit and ended up at the same initramfs prompt :(
[05:39] <Lirth> DJ: what do you mean by that?
[05:39] <celthunder> Lirth: x11 x windows framework on which a gui can be used....
[05:39] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: watching the vid =)
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Valrin: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  head /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:39] <DJ> Lirth, I'm asking what do you see right now in front of you're Monitor?
[05:40] <Lirth> DJ: The test version of Ubuntu.
[05:40] <celthunder> Valrin: pastebin your sources.list or at least the first line
[05:40] <Lirth> DJ: My problem is setting up my boot loader. I have the rest finished.
[05:40] <Valrin> Says no file or directory.... =\
[05:40] <DJ> type df -h to see you're hard drive structure
[05:40] <Valrin> But I do have that file, cause i've been looking through it
[05:41] <Lirth> DJ: Ok. How to I copy and paset it?
[05:41] <celthunder> Valrin: /etc/apt/sources.lst ....
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> Valrin: sorry:    cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-wine-ppa-lucid.list    what is output? use a pastebin
[05:41] <binger> celthunder  this is what i entered in the last line of fstab:  /dev/sda1 / ext4 defaults 0 0   does that sound right? I rebooted after making that edit and ended up at the same initramfs prompt :(
[05:41] <DJ> Lirth, paste it in #flood
[05:41] <Lirth> DJ: How do I copy it?
[05:42] <DJ> lol
[05:42] <celthunder> binger: ok yeah that looks right if its ext4.
[05:42] <Lirth> DJ: You keep overestimating my intelligence.
[05:42] <celthunder> DJ: i think he is trying to troll us
[05:42] <DJ> I'm not at all Lirth
[05:42] <scientes> How do i use 3G?
[05:42] <Lirth> celthunder: I have no idea how to copy it from the black and white text screen.
[05:42] <scientes> ive got a del 5520
[05:43] <scientes> it shows up in network manager but when i click On/off it stays off
[05:43] <scientes> does it need a sim card slot?
[05:43] <celthunder> binger: hmm when did this start and at what point does it drp you to initramfs ..like what did it fail to load
[05:43] <scientes> with a sim card in in another port on the computer
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: when it gets to the update-grub, run:   sudo nano /etc/default/grub    and change:   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"     to:   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nouveau.blacklist=1"     press CTRL+X, Press Y, Press ENTER then run:  sudo update-grub; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:43] <Lirth> DJ: Is there a place where it dumps or something?
[05:43] <DJ> tell me the line where it says /dev/sda
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> scientes: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb
[05:44] <binger> celthunder  see http://paste.ubuntu.com/874038/ for all the gory details
[05:44] <DJ> is there any number in front of the /dev/ Lirth ?
[05:44] <scientes> ActionParsnip, Bus 005 Device 002: ID 413c:8136 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 5520 Cingular Mobile Broadband (3G HSDPA) Minicard Diagnostics Port
[05:44] <scientes> with up-to-date precise
[05:44] <scientes> amd64
[05:44] <celthunder> binger: ok give me a moment
[05:44] <Lirth> DJ: nope
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> scientes: precise is offtopic here, ask in #ubuntu+
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> #ubuntu+1
[05:44] <Lirth> DJ: I don't even have that item in the list
[05:45] <DJ> Lirth, just paste me the /dev/ line
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> scientes: the channel welcome message clearly says it....
[05:45] <DJ> example /dev/sda4        91G  4.5G   82G   6% /
[05:45] <Lirth> DJ: All of them? There are 3
[05:45] <DJ> that's my root partition
[05:45] <Lirth> DJ: I have no /sda pieces.
[05:45] <DJ> just one line
[05:46] <celthunder> binger: ok got you so sdc fails. what is sdc inyour system do you have any usb devices plugged in at the moment
[05:46] <scientes> but its beta
[05:46] <Lirth> DJ: I do have a /cow 1008M 230M 782M 24% /
[05:46] <scientes> and when you develop new stuff you want to be a little ahead, esp when its a LTS
[05:46] <binger> celthunder: yes there are 2 usb externals attached now
[05:46] <Lirth> DJ: It's the only one with real similarities to yours.
[05:46] <DJ> Lirth, you name you're partitions and you don't even know them?
[05:46] <celthunder> binger: disconnect them and type exit
[05:47] <DJ> then /cow is your /root dir
[05:47] <Lirth> DJ: I didn't do anything. I just let the automated installer run.
[05:47] <SinnerNyx> in apache2/mods-available, I have various proxy mods. There is one called proxy_ftp. Are these all part of the official mod_proxy as documented here (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_proxy.html ) but split up into sections?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> scientes: yes, it's not released. It is only supported here when it is released, not beta
[05:47] <binger> celthunder from initramfs?
[05:47] <celthunder> binger: yes=
[05:47] <SinnerNyx> or are they all different?
[05:47] <binger> ok hang on
[05:47] <Valrin> celthunder, ActionParsnip it says no file or directory exists
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> scientes: the release is not ready and not released and is supported in #ubuntu+1 until it is released
[05:48] <DJ> lol Lirth
[05:48] <DJ> i see
[05:48] <DJ> ;)
[05:48] <DJ> now the other 2
[05:48] <Lirth> DJ: I'm not smart enough to mess with it.
[05:48] <celthunder> Valrin: tree /etc/apt...what  IS there
[05:48] <DJ> you should that's how you learn Lirth
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Valrin: it must, it's in yourerror
[05:48] <kingspider> i has a HD 7950
[05:49] <scientes> ActionParsnip, well, i have found very little 3g documentation online, do you know of any good stuff?
[05:49] <Lirth> DJ: Not when it's my hard drive. I locked myself out by marking the wrong one active on my lap top a while ago. It took a week to fix.
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> Valrin: ok run:   nautilus /etc/apt/sources.list.d      open the wine file and pastebin the text please
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> scientes: I don't use it outside my phone
[05:49] <csprite> anyone make customized ubuntu iso's?
[05:49] <CFHowlett> csprite   sure.
[05:49] <DJ> Lirth, okay let's proceed with the other two lines
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> csprite: http://maketecheasier.com/build-your-own-ubuntu-based-distro-with-novo-builder/2010/07/02
[05:49] <csprite> what tools you use to do that CF
[05:50] <CFHowlett> csprite   remastersys is probably the best known one...
[05:50] <csprite> thanks Action ill check that
[05:50] <celthunder> csprite: debootstrap
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> csprite: all I did was websearch.....
[05:50] <sleepybug> am I able to install ubuntu while sitting at the desktop of my current linux distro? I would like to install it without rebooting or running it on a live cd. Kind of like what you are able to do with a windows upgrade disk
[05:51] <celthunder> binger: any luck
[05:51] <scientes> yeah this is my first time with mobilebroadband
[05:51] <CFHowlett> sleepybug   what is your current distro?
[05:51] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: this video is on how to reinstall grub2. why do I want to do that?
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> scientes: ask in #ubuntu+1 and they will help you
[05:51] <celthunder> sleepybug: yes you can.
[05:51] <DJ> better Lirth open up nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: read what I said above......
[05:51] <Valrin> ActionParsnip, says cannot find /ect/apt/sources.list.d
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: the chroot steps get to a point where the commands you run affect the installed OS....
[05:51] <sleepybug> celthunder: how? CFHowlett: an older ubuntu distro..I dont want to upgrade
[05:52] <Lirth> DJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/874097/
[05:52] <celthunder> sleepybug: its possible as long as you use common sense when doing it.
[05:52] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: ahh, k
[05:52] <Lirth> DJ: and huh?
[05:52] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: you want me to install updates?
[05:52] <CFHowlett> sleepybug   again what is your current distro.
[05:52] <binger> celthunder so i hit exit at the initramfs prompt and it gives half page that starts with kernel panic-not syncing attempted to kill init
[05:52] <cloudgeek> how to open .dwg or autocad file in ubuntu
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Valrin: nautilus /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[05:52] <DJ> open up that config file, Lirth
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: sure, why not
[05:52] <celthunder> binger: reboot with the drives unplugged
[05:52] <drounse> is there any plans for itunes to eventually be ported to linux
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> drounse: ask apple
[05:52] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: anything else I should do while I'm in?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> drounse: I bet they laugh at you, hard
[05:53] <celthunder> drounse: doubt it
[05:53] <sleepybug> CFHowlett: Ubuntu 8.04.1
[05:53] <CFHowlett> sleepybug   you can direct upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 when it becomes available.
[05:53] <CFHowlett> sleepybug   nope.  end of life.
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: ready the long text I gave yo earlier.
[05:53] <binger> celthunder: alrighty
[05:53] <Lirth> DJ: I don't see the menu piee.
[05:53] <CFHowlett> sleepybug   WAIT!
[05:53] <drounse> ActionParsnip i know they probably will, but if you think about it it can only benefit apple, and in the end make them more money
[05:53] <sleepybug> ?
[05:53] <Lirth> DJ: piece*. Only "grubenv"
[05:53] <crash1hd> I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how I create a link on the desktop to a python application? please :)
[05:53] <celthunder> sleepybug: how far in the install of a new distro did you get
[05:53] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: ahh, sorry, missed that (was away)
[05:53] <cloudgeek> how to open ! a autocad file or dwg file in ubuntu
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> drounse: exactly. I suggest you contact them. If they get enough interest it may happen
[05:53] <CFHowlett> sleepybug   sorry, got ahead of myself.  I THINK you can upgrade to 10.04 as it's an LTS release.
[05:54] <Valrin> ActionParsnip, i did that and thats the error I get
[05:54] <KI7MT>    cloudgeek I think there's an app called LX Viewer if I recall, I was just looking, its not a UB app but should work.
[05:54] <DJ> Lirth, did you install grub?
[05:54] <sleepybug> celthunder: I havent attempted any installation. I am wanting to pop in an disk with the iso on it, and install while booted in the OS
[05:54] <Lirth> DJ: I thought I did.
[05:54] <drounse> ActionParsnip do they have a channel? like a fan channel that will have an idea?
[05:54] <CFHowlett> *anyone confirm or prove me misinformed?* 8.04 to 10.04 is still possible?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> Valrin: can you see what is meant to happen though? can you make it occur without me being 100% accurate?
[05:54] <DJ> you though wrong Lirth
[05:54] <celthunder> CFHowlett: sleepybug you can read lfs docs for a basic what you want to do and use ksplice for the kernel.
[05:54] <binger> celthunder: at grub menu i selected ubuntu and the cursor in upper left blinked for a while then went to busybox screen and initramfs prompt
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> drounse: probably #apple   I'd try and email them too
[05:54] <DJ> Lirth, sudo apt-get install grub
[05:54] <Lirth> DJ: it ran into some errors.
[05:55] <celthunder> binger: awe... new error at least?
[05:55] <CFHowlett> sleepybug   all that said, you're safer doing a clean install...
[05:55] <KI7MT> cloudgeek, also check out an app called: Bricscad
[05:55] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: will sudo apt-get upgrade take me to xubuntu 12.04 ???
[05:55] <DJ> yeah that you could not boot any os, because you did not install grub I'm I Right?
[05:55] <Valrin> ActionParsnip, I dunno man, I've tried so many different things to try and get this damn thing to work and nothing seems to be getting the job done.
[05:55] <binger> celthunder fun ain't it?  maybe i should reedit that fstab to get rid of the line i put in?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: no, it will upgrade yourinstall to te latest packages for your release
[05:55] <CFHowlett> no-name-   no as it's not released yet.
[05:55] <no-name-> ok
[05:55] <sleepybug> CFHowlett: What if a clean install isn't an option? I am wanting to remove everything from my current installation and install a new one, but I can't reboot it to boot into a live disk
[05:56] <sleepybug> CFHowlett: is there no way to burn the iso to a disk and install it from there?
[05:56] <cloudgeek> KI7MT: can provide me a link
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> Valrin: you just need to open the file you named in your error in a text file.
[05:56] <Valrin> I did man but it won't lemme delete it
[05:56] <sleepybug> CFHowlett: so i guess yes, i want a clean install. but I cant reboot it
[05:56] <Lirth> DJ: 'sub process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error (1)'
[05:56] <celthunder> CFHowlett: did i miss something hed need to do? i know you can do what i said if you are careful and keey your fs structure soperate...
[05:56] <DJ> Lirth, sudo apt-get -f install
[05:56] <CFHowlett> sleepybug  I gotta ask...why can't you reboot?
[05:56] <cloudgeek> KI7MT: I have autocad file i just want to open it that's only
[05:56] <KI7MT> cloudgeek, http://www.bricsys.com/en_INTL/bricscad/index.jsp
[05:56] <vadi2> My metacity broke weirdly and I can't click on anything. What can I do?
[05:56] <Lirth> DJ: already did that
[05:57] <CFHowlett> celthunder   I think we crossed threads somewhere?
[05:57] <sleepybug> CFHowlett: does it matter?
[05:57] <vadi2> I can't click on a window in the background to give it focus
[05:57] <DJ> which dependencies broke your system?
[05:57] <DJ> Lirth,
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> vadi2: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[05:57] <CFHowlett> sleepybug   so you can't boot from cd/usb?
[05:57] <celthunder> CFHowlett: he basically would be using current system as a host build env then at the end ksplce the kernel and rm the old fs stuff
[05:58] <Lirth> DJ: something about /usr/bin/dpkg
[05:58] <sleepybug> CFHowlett: correct celthunder: correct
[05:58] <Dogears> waxstone: Thanks for you help earlier
[05:58] <vadi2> I can't press enter after typing it in
[05:58] <CFHowlett> celthunder   thanks.  that is doable but I've not done it ...
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> Valrin: run gedit and you can open the file there.
[05:58] <sleepybug> celthunder: is there a tutorial
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> vadi2: click ok then (if a button exists)
[05:58] <DJ> what error do you get when you use the command apt-get -f install Lirth ?
[05:58] <Valrin> ActionParsnip, I used gedit, and it won't let me do anything.
[05:58] <vadi2> Alright, it replaced, but the behavior is still the same
[05:59] <vadi2> I can't click on tabs in pidgin to make it switch either
[05:59] <vadi2> Just - nothing happens.
[05:59] <Lirth> DJ: could not open lock file and unable to lock admin directory
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> Valrin: click file -> open .  click file system on the left. open etc, open apt, open sources.list.d
[05:59] <sleepybug> celthunder: is there any kind of tutorial for this process?
[05:59] <celthunder> sleepybug: yes. linuxfromscratch.com or whatever and use the basic directions to buil what you want or the distro you want...use a different fs structure though so you can rm the old build env later
[05:59] <DJ> which file is lock Lirth ? be specific
[05:59] <waxstone> Dogears:No problem
[06:00] <sleepybug> celthunder thanks
[06:00] <KI7MT> cloudgeek, This is a free solution for DWG files: http://lx-viewer.sourceforge.net/
[06:00] <Lirth> DJ: /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: is software centre or synaptic open, or are you installing updates or new apps?
[06:00] <celthunder> CFHowlett: ive only done that once as well and i only did it to learn.  took a while it did work though
[06:00] <DJ> Lirth, type sudo ps x|grep dpkg
[06:00] <binger> celthunder so am booting from the livecd and going to revert my fstab edit. do sudo blkid too to see what it shows now. I sure am learning a lot about linux/ubuntu in the process though.
[06:01] <vadi2> Now I dragged something by accident and the drag icon won't go away.
[06:01] <CFHowlett> celthunder   looks interesting - hope I never have to.  I'm glad YOU had the info, though.
[06:01] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: the bootloader installer thingy is open from earlier when it ran into an error
[06:01] <drounse> whats your favorite music player?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Lirth if not then use this
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> drounse: deadbeef and spotify
[06:01] <DJ> even better thank you ActionParsnip
[06:02] <vadi2> Oops, left mouse button was depressed permanently
[06:02] <celthunder> CFHowlett: lol bet you he comes back in here whining he had to type stuff compile a bunch and failed to follow the directions
[06:02] <celthunder> binger: thats a good thing i guess can you pastebin you fstab while you edit it
[06:02] <drounse> ActionParsnip hows deadbeef? ive never used it?
[06:02] <CFHowlett> celthunder   hey IS it possible to upgrade 8.04 to 10.04?  as 8.04 is EOL?
[06:02] <Lirth> actionparsnip: in one line?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> drounse: its sweet, light too
[06:02] <DJ> yeah sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: yes, all one command
[06:03] <celthunder> CFHowlett: no idea i dont use ubuntu except on one server.
[06:03] <DJ> sorry sudo dpkg-configure -a Lirth
[06:03] <CFHowlett> celthunder  ok.  thanks for the info.
[06:03] <drounse> ActionParsnip ive been using banshee which i really like
[06:03] <celthunder> CFHowlett: he didnt ask how to get to the latest ubuntu he asked how to install another distro without rebooting....so yes its possible same concept would apply
[06:04] <skmsmslk> how to know my tv tuner version ?
[06:04] <celthunder> CFHowlett: though probably would be easier
[06:04] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: "Bad address"
[06:04] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: what did you mean by when it gets to update-grub? she didn't use that command in the video. do I just edit /etc/default/grub after I run grub-install?
[06:04] <Lirth> DJ: "dpkg-configure: command not found"
[06:04] <celthunder> skmsmslk: same as it was 6 hours ago lspci or lsusb
[06:04] <CFHowlett> celthunder   linux users are NEVER satisfied ...
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: when the video says to install grub etc, you are then running the commands in the installed OS.
[06:05] <celthunder> CFHowlett: I am. though i do tweak around a lot
[06:05] <DJ> Lirth, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[06:05] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: I understand that much
[06:05] <skmsmslk>  lspci i was disconnected
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: so you can edit /etc/default/grub   as I said
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a     is the command....
[06:06] <Lirth> DJ: Locked by another process
[06:06] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: but should I run grub-install or update-grub beforehand?
[06:06] <DJ> Lirth, type this sudo ps x|grep dpkg
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: grub is already installed, you just need to edit the file then run:  sudo update-grub   to apply
[06:06] <skmsmslk> celthunder how to install the tv tunar driver ?
[06:06] <Lirth> DJ: nothing
[06:07] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: ahh, now I understand
[06:07] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: Errors in man-db
[06:07] <binger> celthunder this is the latest sudo blkid http://paste.ubuntu.com/874106/  there was nothing to revert in the /etc/fstab since I edited in the trial ubuntu.  DOH!
[06:08] <celthunder> skmsmslk: ok seriously either use google or give more than NO INFORMATION btw half the questions you asked earlier would have been answered had you spent 5 seconds looking yourself.
[06:08] <sammmy> where is firefox usually installed on ubuntu?
[06:08] <DJ> Lirth, sudo updatedb
[06:08] <celthunder> sammmy: /usr/bin or /usr/sbin my guess
[06:08] <Lirth> Nothing showed up
[06:08] <novasonic666> hi
[06:08] <Lirth> DJ: Nothing showed up
[06:09] <binger> celthunder is there something i should be entering at the initramfs prompt?
[06:09] <celthunder> binger: lol make a chroot from the live install
[06:09] <Fyodorovna> sammmy, in home ctrl-h to show all files
[06:09] <DJ> Lirth, type nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:09] <skmsmslk> Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) plz tell me bro ?
[06:09] <Lirth> DJ: and then what?
[06:10] <DJ> Lirth, does it say cdrom? at the top?
[06:10] <Lirth> DJ: cdrom:[Ubuntu....
[06:10] <DJ> does it show a #
[06:11] <DJ> in front of the cdrom?
[06:11] <Lirth> DJ: it says "deb"
[06:11] <sammmy> Fyodorovna: So, all the programs are just hidden in the home directory? :\
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> DJ: the issue is with some wine ppa list file in sources.list.d
[06:11] <DJ> is it a bug?
[06:12] <celthunder> sammmy: no
[06:12] <celthunder> sammmy: your users configs for them are there though
[06:13] <sammmy> celthunder: Oh. But I was wondering where the actual firefox application is.
[06:13] <DJ> Lirth, go into the dir /var/lib/dpkg/
[06:13] <DJ> and rm the locked file
[06:13] <DJ> and type apt-get update
[06:13] <DJ> to trick dpkg
[06:13] <zykotick9> sammmy: is it installed?  "whereis firefox" (or "whereis firefox-bin") should show you.
[06:14] <celthunder> sammmy: did you try /usr/bin or /sbin or /usr/sbin
[06:14] <waxstone> sammy: home folder>show hidden files/folders
[06:14] <sammmy> zykotick9: Ok. Quick tip: is there a way to quickly bring up the command line?
[06:14] <zykotick9> celthunder: firefox will not be in /sbin or /usr/sbin (or i hope not anyway)
[06:14] <CFHowlett> sammmy   alt-f2
[06:15] <erespond> am need remove phpmyadmin tool and need install it again couse am forget my password for acess phpmyadmin any body have it ide ????
[06:15] <erespond> am need remove phpmyadmin tool and need install it again couse am forget my password for acess phpmyadmin any body have it ide ????
[06:16] <Lirth> DJ: "Could not open lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/"
[06:16] <erespond> please respond !!1
[06:16] <binger> celthunder I googled chroot. In the livecd try me I went to the home folder and i can see the 29gb ubuntu partition listed but will not let me mount and open.
[06:16] <Lirth> DJ: file, not directory*
[06:16] <DJ> Lirth, ps x|grep apt
[06:16] <theadmin> !patience | erespond
[06:16] <CFHowlett> !patience|erespond
[06:16] <DJ> and tell me the pid Lirth
[06:16] <sammmy> looks like firefox is in /usr/bin/firefox /etc/firefox and /usr/share/man/man1/firefox1.gz
[06:16] <Lirth> ps x|grep apt
[06:16] <Lirth> oops
[06:16] <erespond> theadmin, am have that probelm
[06:17] <celthunder> zykotick9: my browser is in /usr/bin... whats wrong with that... i use uzbl btw
[06:17] <theadmin> erespond: Patience. If nobody knows, nobody will reply.
[06:17] <erespond> am have install phpmyadmin on my box, ubuntu 10.10 and am have forget my password, am need rememove
[06:17] <Lirth> DJ: pid?
[06:17] <DJ> yeah it has to show a number
[06:17] <erespond> theadmin am need to know how to remove total phpmyadmin on my ubuntu
[06:17] <celthunder> erespond: look up clearing mysql root pws
[06:17] <DJ> with the command i give you Lirth
[06:17] <binger> celthunder so I can't get the complete mount path.  The error message says something about how there may be more info in the syslog.  Where is this?
[06:18] <erespond> celthunder, how i do ?
[06:18] <zykotick9> celthunder: uzbl FTW ;)  it was the sbin i had issue with
[06:18] <Lirth> DJ: I got 7528 and 7647 (2 different lines).
[06:18] <theadmin> erespond: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove phpmyadmin # Try something like this
[06:18] <celthunder> zykotick9: ah. lol ok
[06:18] <DJ> kill -9 7528
[06:18] <rogst> erespond: does sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin work?
[06:18] <sammmy> Yeah, so it's in the /usr/bin I wonder why though. It would make sense to have all installed applications in a Applications directory someone in the user's files.
[06:18] <celthunder> binger: /var/log/syslog
[06:18] <erespond> rogst, not work
[06:19] <binger> k
[06:19] <Lirth> DJ: done
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> sammmy: they are in different folders as some apps have different roles
[06:19] <DJ> now type sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:19] <zykotick9> sammmy: you don't like the idea of multiple users being able to share the same binary?  odd.
[06:20] <sammmy> zykotick9: well, there could be a common Applications directory someone too I guess. :\
[06:20] <zykotick9> sammmy: exactly what /bin and /usr/bin are?!
[06:20] <celthunder> zykotick9: must be an insecure environment.  i can think of a few where that would be handy... most of them are still bad reasons to de that though
[06:20] <erespond> i have try for find how to used / remove phpmyadmin and install it again with new password for access
[06:20] <erespond> i can't find it ?
[06:20] <Lirth> DJ: Errors with opening lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock and unable to lock admin directory /var/lib/dpkg
[06:20] <erespond> are that a bug ?
[06:20] <DJ> Lirth, type whoami
[06:20] <sammmy> zykotick9: Good point. Excuss me. xP
[06:20] <CFHowlett> erespond   more like a user error I'm afraid ...
[06:21] <celthunder> erespond: phpmyadimn just uses mysql
[06:21] <Lirth> DJ: "ubuntu"
[06:21] <erespond> CFHowlett, i have errer ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[06:21] <sammmy> Why are there two though? /bin and /usr/bin?
[06:21] <theadmin> sammmy: /bin is for critical system applications required during boot-time, /usr/bin is for user-related stuff
[06:21] <celthunder> it doesnt have its own passwrod so look up clearing your sql pw not phpmyadmin
[06:21] <theadmin> sammmy: You can put /usr on a separate partition to free space up
[06:21] <DJ> lol Lirth that's the Normal user account can you log in as root? at all? with su? Lirth
[06:21] <sammmy> theadmin: is that what usr stands for, user?
[06:21] <erespond> celthunder, am not fimiliar used mysql, am have big problem with command
[06:21] <theadmin> sammmy: Well, pretty much, I think so at least
[06:22] <erespond> and am so easy for used phpmyadmin ?
[06:22] <Lirth> DJ: I suppose I could reboot.
[06:22] <binger> celthunder that is one long syslog file.  Not sure what I am looking for either.  So if I reinstall ubuntu over the existing will it fix things?  will I lose that 25gb download AGAIN?
[06:22] <celthunder> binger: you can reinstall thats not a solution and if you choose not to format you wont lose anything.
[06:22] <DJ> reboot Lirth
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> erespond: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[06:23] <celthunder> binger: you should really just fix it though reinstall is the worst solution...
[06:23] <binger> celthunder so are you saying it won't fix the immediate issue?
[06:23] <skmsmslk> pls tell me how to install tv tunar driver ?
[06:23] <binger> celthunder I agree but don't know how.
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> erespond: http://sujeetha.blogspot.com/2010/09/reset-root-password-for-phpmyadminmysql.html
[06:23] <celthunder> can someone kick skmsmslk? ActionParsnip ?
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: i'm not an op
[06:24] <skmsmslk> why bro ?
[06:24] <theadmin> sammmy: You can find more information as to what is where in the Linux filesystem here: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.pdf
[06:24] <DJ> why celthunder ?
[06:24] <Lirth> DJ: Blinky flashy _
[06:24] <sammmy> Why are all the binaries in /bin and /usr/bin not in their own directories?
[06:24] <erespond> ActionParsnip, thanks i will try you stepp
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> erespond: i don't even use the app, yet I found those.....
[06:24] <celthunder> dj hes annoying and keeps repeating the same things...
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> skmsmslk: is it usb or pci based? You have given zero details....
[06:24] <erespond> ActionParsnip, thanks
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> erespond: did you not try the web first?
[06:25] <theadmin> sammmy: Just traditional for Linux, it's hard to even explain
[06:25] <zykotick9> sammmy: ask the creators of unix, it's been working like this for a long time...
[06:25] <skmsmslk> it is internal tv tunar ?
[06:25] <zykotick9> theadmin: before linux ;)
[06:25] <theadmin> zykotick9: Well, true on that too
[06:25] <celthunder> binger: pastebin the last few lines of your syslog
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> skmsmslk: ok then run:  lspci   one line will identify the device chip, you can then use that to find guides
[06:25] <binger> k
[06:26] <KI7MT> sammmy, more casual reading is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[06:26] <DJ> Lirth, now see if you can use apt at all
[06:26] <skmsmslk> i had run it  Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[06:26] <DJ> !tell celthunder about ops
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> sammmy: there was a time when each distro used its own file system for storage, it has since been standardised
[06:26] <Lirth> DJ: I hit same problem as a few days ago. "No caching mode page present"
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> skmsmslk: ok now you know what it is you can find guides
[06:27] <erespond> ActionParsnip, am have E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:27] <erespond> after i used you step you give to me ?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | erespond
[06:28] <skmsmslk> i had open one site but i donot understand anything ?
[06:28] <DJ> are you booting via a usb stick or something Lirth ?
[06:28] <Lirth> DJ: using the normal boot doesn't work
[06:28] <AnAnt> Hello, how do I configure my locale (user-specific not system wide) ?
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> skmsmslk: try another
[06:28] <Lirth> DJ: that just has the flashing underscore
[06:28] <DJ> that's because you never did install grub and your system broke installing grub
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> skmsmslk: you have tried ONE site...
[06:28] <skmsmslk> ya
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> skmsmslk: so try others
[06:29] <skmsmslk> http://www.linuxtv.org/
[06:29] <Lirth> DJ: so use flashdrive?
[06:29] <DJ> no not at all
[06:29] <hmw> I tar-gz'ed a folder with  tar -cf my.tar foldername .  A friend is trying to uncompress this file with the GUI archiver, and gets: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format - can you explain? (I can unpack it on the commandline)
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> skmsmslk: yes, try others
[06:29] <Lirth> DJ: then what?
[06:29] <DJ> are you using the live cd? Lirth ?
[06:29] <theadmin> AnAnt: GUI-wise, open the control center thingo, Language Support, and select a language. On the CLI, export LANG=lc_CC.ENC (where lc = language code, CC = country code, ENC = encoding)
[06:30] <Lirth> DJ: that's my usb
[06:30] <hmw> It was  tar -cf my.tar.gz foldername
[06:30] <AnAnt> theadmin: is there a default config file ?
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> skmsmslk: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/48158
[06:30] <skmsmslk> can u plz provide me that !
[06:30] <theadmin> AnAnt: I dunno about that honestyl
[06:30] <AnAnt> ok, thanks
[06:30] <DJ> how are you booting ubuntu dude via cdrom or USB stick and please be specific
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> skmsmslk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/12912/phillips-saa7139-tv-tuner-card-not-working
[06:30] <zykotick9> hmw: it's a tar, not a tar.gz
[06:30] <Lirth> DJ: USB stick. It's the same thing I used to install
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> AnAnt: you can run:  locale=something command    and I believe it will work
[06:31] <hmw> zykotick9: Ok, but shouldn't the GUI packer "see" that?
[06:31] <skmsmslk> thanks i am going to try it !
[06:31] <DJ> ok Lirth then boot up the installation again and install grub
[06:31] <DJ> to /dev/sdb1
[06:31] <zykotick9> hmw: i have no idea, but by the error - i guess not
[06:31] <Lirth> DJ: Try ubuntu or install ubuntu?
[06:31] <erespond> all am have find that solution
[06:31] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: That'll do nothing, you're supposed to export it -- or else it won't get passed to child processes, and who cares what the locale for the shell itself is lol
[06:31] <hmw> zykotick9: hm. Well, thanks. I'll do some experiments and find out by "brute force" *g*
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: might be a gui app, or even another terminal ;)
[06:32] <DJ> Lirth, try installing a new fresh system if you have any files that you do not want  to loose then create a backup
[06:32] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ah, if you mean the assignment followed by the command directly, then yeah that would work
[06:32] <binger> celthunder this may be a little more than you asked for but wasn't sure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/874123/
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: that was the intention :D
[06:32] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: It's $LANG though, not $LOCALE, and most definetly not $locale
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: was a bit of a guess if i'm honest
[06:33] <crf> Hi. I'm trying to search for a text string among files in my Home directory. When I use search, I also chose a date modified of less than 2 days. But the search is taking forever. I suspect it is looking in files regardless of date modified. Does anyone know if that is the case
[06:33] <Lirth> DJ: Fun. Upgrade 11.10 to 11.10 or Erase and reinstall?
[06:34] <Zimm3r> how do i update gstreamer
[06:34] <DJ> Lirth, you should be asking that your self and answer that on your own Lirth
[06:34] <DJ> ;)
[06:34] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ah, I see
[06:35] <Lirth> I have no data yet so reinstall I am doing.
[06:35] <Lirth> DJ: I have to go, school is tomorrow and I need the sleep. Thanks.
[06:35] <DJ> no problem Lirth
[06:36] <CFHowlett> !cookie|dj Your patience is inspiring.