[08:13] <anirbaan> Hello everyone & Kilos :)
[08:13] <anirbaan> Kilos: what is the root file system check command? is it "mkdir /enforce" ?
[09:08] <Kilos> hi anirbaan pavlushka and other lurkers
[09:08] <Kilos> i use fsck
[09:08] <Kilos> sudo touch /forcefsck
[09:09] <Kilos> then it checks while booting
[09:09] <Kilos> i dont know the involved commands but pavel will know
[09:10] <anirbaan> Kilos: got it, and you know even pavlushka lurks :p
[09:10] <Kilos> yes hahaha
[11:02] <pavlushka> Kilos: ping
[11:02] <Kilos> pavlushka pong
[11:03] <Kilos> whats up
[11:03] <pavlushka> Kilos: once you mentioned a system migration tool for Ubuntu only, can you recall it?
[11:03] <Kilos> systemback
[11:04] <pavlushka> Kilos: wow, I was testing you :p
[11:04]  * pavlushka whispers nah
[11:04] <Kilos> make a usb boot stick with exactly you working system to intall again or on another pc
[11:04] <pavlushka> Kilos: by the btw thanks :)
[11:04] <Kilos> you welcome lad
[11:05]  * pavlushka on the run
[11:05] <Kilos> run fast
[11:05] <Kilos> hehe
[17:46] <pavlushka> Welcome NahidSultan and zaki  :)
[17:53] <zaki> hey pavlushka
[17:53] <zaki> how are u doing?
[17:54] <pavlushka> zaki: nothing, overstuffed my tummy, now cant move
[17:57] <zaki> ow
[18:24] <Kilos-> lol
[18:26] <pavlushka> yeah, I was waiting for this :p
[18:26] <pavlushka> reply
[18:26] <Kilos-> self inflicted punishment
[18:28] <pavlushka> Kilos-: nope, mom's inflicted punishment, kinda self inflicted coz I was trying to keep her every request on food :p
[18:28] <Kilos-> lol
[18:28] <Kilos-> nono
[18:29] <Kilos-> she didnt force food into your mouth'
[18:29] <Kilos-> hahaha
[18:30] <pavlushka> true, but she served the plate and dont like it left overs
[18:30] <Kilos-> lol
[18:30] <Kilos-> go for a walk it will help
[18:30] <Kilos-> just dont jump
[18:31] <Kilos-> hi NahidSultan
[18:31] <Kilos-> ai!
[18:31] <Kilos-> Nahiyan
[18:31] <pavlushka> Kilos-: I bunked last night's sleep, so I am dead sleepy
[18:31] <Kilos-> oh my
[18:32] <Nahiyan> hello
[18:32] <Nahiyan> I was awake for
[18:32] <Kilos-> go sleep lad
[18:32] <Nahiyan> 30 hours yesterday
[18:32] <pavlushka> Kilos-: I am in a state that you can kill me but you cant make me move
[18:32] <Kilos-> dont you guys sleep?
[18:32] <Nahiyan> I had a lot of work yesterday
[18:32] <Nahiyan> project stuff
[18:33] <Kilos-> ah
[18:33] <pavlushka> Kilos-: I have some deadlines, So I'll think about the deadlines for a while and fall a sleep on the chair :p
[18:33] <Kilos-> lol
[18:33] <Nahiyan> I should probably go to sleep now
[18:34] <Nahiyan> I've been awake for about 20 hours now X_X
[18:34] <Nahiyan> see ya guys tomorrow :)
[18:34] <pavlushka> see ya
[18:34] <Kilos-> sleep tight guys
[18:35] <pavlushka> Kilos-: where you are going?
[18:35] <Kilos-> i thought you fell asleep on the chair
[18:35] <Kilos-> then i go play liberators
[18:35] <Kilos-> only thing fb is good for


[04:50] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[kde]: idjc lives... Upstream has moved to python 3.7/ gtk3
[04:50] <OvenWerks> builds here anyway
[04:51] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[kde]: https://sourceforge.net/projects/idjc/files/
[04:52] <OvenWerks> I DL and built idjc-0.9.1.tar.gz against libshout-idjc from ubuntu repos.
[04:58] <OvenWerks> But there is a newer version of libshout-idjc as well
[06:13]  * OvenWerks had forgotten how complex idjc is


[07:30] <bunty> hey guys
[07:30] <bunty> anyone up?
[07:32] <bunty> why starting jackd -dfirewire doesn't  work as  an audio user but works as root?
[07:33] <bunty> which permissions do I have to set so I can use my firewire device as an audio user. I'm using kernel 2.6.39
[09:50] <uwe> hi all
[09:53] <uwe> currently i work with unbutustudio 10.10 and it works fine
[09:55] <uwe> and i wonder if should go for 11.04
[18:31] <dubphil> Hi I have succesfully compiled linuxsampler, I can make a package if you want for ubuntustudio
[18:39] <orngjce223> You want #ubuntustudio-dev I think
[18:49] <dubphil> orngjce223: ah yes you are right thanks
[18:50] <dubphil> orngjce223: do you know howto to have a list of kernel in grub2 on 11.04 ?
[18:51] <dubphil> I have installed the lowlatency kernel but I have no more sounds with it so I would like to load the generic one
[18:51] <orngjce223> run sudo update-grub and see if it picks them up, if not you need to install the generic kernel in the package manager and try again
[18:52] <dubphil> orngjce223: ok it has found it
[18:52] <orngjce223> When grub2 shows up on next boot you can just select it
[18:52] <orngjce223> If it boots you can uninstall all the lowlatency packages
[18:52] <orngjce223> Cool
[18:53] <dubphil> I don't see grub at boot, I directly see the xubuntu splashscreen
[18:53] <orngjce223> Ah
[18:53] <orngjce223> Hmm
[18:54] <orngjce223> I think you could do something with the grub config to give you multiple seconds but I don't know the details
[18:54] <dubphil> umh desinstalling reinstalling the kernel each time is quite annoying
[18:54] <orngjce223> I'd probably ask Google
[18:54] <orngjce223> Huh
[18:54] <orngjce223> Yeah, I'd ask Google how to edit the grub config files, there should be an entry there for the delay before booting into the latest kernel automatically
[18:54] <dubphil> yes I did but it is always the old way with grub legacy
[18:55] <orngjce223> Ah. :c
[18:55] <orngjce223> You may want to ask around in the #ubuntu channel then, I'm not sure how to do it
[18:55] <dubphil> but perhaps with delay it should be better
[18:55] <dubphil> thanks orngjce223
[18:55] <orngjce223> You're welcome?
[19:13] <Krasslig> o/
[19:13] <Krasslig> is ardour the best software to produce music on linux?
[19:15] <holstein> Krasslig: depends... what kind of music?.. ardour2 does not support MIDI currently, so if you are interested in MIDI, then i would say no
[19:15] <holstein> ardour3 releases soon though, and that has MIDI support
[19:15] <Krasslig> well i produce dubstep/dnb/jungle on windows
[19:16] <holstein> right, depends on how you do that
[19:16] <Krasslig> with fruity loops
[19:16] <holstein> either way, you'll want JACK
[19:16] <Krasslig> and ableton
[19:16] <Krasslig> JACK is that a program?
[19:16] <holstein> lots of guys doing that use LMMS
[19:16] <holstein> theres qtractor, seq24
[19:17] <holstein> all kinds of things really, and they are all interconnected by JACK
[19:17] <holstein> Krasslig: JACK is the sound server
[19:17] <holstein> for example
[19:17] <Krasslig> hmmm
[19:17] <holstein> if i want to take a guitar, plug that into an interface, run that signal through effects proecessing such as rakarrack, have that sound trigger a midi sound...
[19:18] <holstein> then
[19:18] <Krasslig> don't rlly get it but lemme check it out
[19:18] <holstein> have that MIDI sound routed through more effects
[19:18] <holstein> and track all of that as audio to ardour
[19:18] <Krasslig> im confused
[19:18] <holstein> while streaming that out to th internect..
[19:18] <holstein> OR doing anything else i want that is JACK supported
[19:18] <Krasslig> ardour supports vst plugins right?
[19:18] <holstein> *which is most everyting
[19:18] <holstein> everything*
[19:18] <Krasslig> the windows ones
[19:18] <holstein> Krasslig: ??
[19:18] <holstein> why would it do that?
[19:18] <holstein> a better question is
[19:19] <holstein> do the vendors of those plugins support linux
[19:19] <holstein> and why or why not
[19:19] <holstein> Krasslig: you might want to look into the audio distrobution called KXstudio
[19:19] <holstein> theres a support channel #kxstudio
[19:19] <holstein> ubuntustudio cannont include support for such software out of the box for legal reasons
[19:20] <Krasslig> ok cool will check it out and holstein i read that somewhere that u could open vst plugins in it or something
[19:20] <holstein> i dont do a lot of MIDI personally
[19:20] <holstein> and, i dont jump through a lot of hoops to support software that doesnt support the OS i use
[19:20] <holstein> BUT
[19:21] <holstein> check out #kxstudio and also #opensourcemusicians
[19:21] <holstein> losts of MIDI folk in that community, and you'll do better asking someone in the know what works
[19:21] <holstein> rather than just trying a bunch of them with trial and error
[19:21] <holstein> Krasslig: consider the 32bit version of KXstudio
[19:21] <holstein> theres a VST pack that the maintainer has
[19:21] <holstein> its 32bit only*
[19:22] <holstein> anyways... BBL
[19:22] <Krasslig> thanx alot for the info guys
[19:22] <Krasslig> <3
[19:22] <Krasslig> have a graet life


  Use them as mini computers for the family
[02:36] <RlaRed> OK so why don't you install it on Arch Linux then?
[02:37] <RlaRed> lol that guy was trolling pretty hard
[02:37] <RlaRed> awesome
[02:37] <drowsygenius> he was lol
[02:37] <drowsygenius> damn trolls, didn't know they still existed in 2016
[02:37] <RlaRed> omg have you visited any forums lately
[02:37] <RlaRed> or read the comments in any news story lol
[02:37] <drowsygenius> i have not lol.  I go to reddit but only read top sections
[02:38] <RlaRed> actually I haven't seen much trolling in reddit
[02:38] <drowsygenius> lol, i try to stay away from facebook comments
[02:38] <RlaRed> yeah that's a good policy probably
[02:38] <drowsygenius> seems like sites like espn and such want you to comment with your facebook account
[02:38] <Breeboppa> @drowsygenius do you have any issues with heat on the Raspi 3 running Mate ?
[02:39] <RlaRed> actually i'm just trying Ubuntu Mate for the first time
[02:39] <RlaRed> and I have to say it is freaking awesome
[02:39] <drowsygenius> um i did have issues with heat until i doubled up my copper heatsink
[02:39] <RlaRed> runs way better than Ubuntu with Unity for me
[02:39] <Breeboppa> Ah ! Thanks !
[02:39] <drowsygenius> i can tell you my heat ready - just a sec, i love my new ir thermometer gun
[02:39] <RlaRed> I'm running it on a virtual machine with 1 CPU, 2 gigs of ram, 32 megs of video ram and it works awesome
[02:40] <RlaRed> drowsygenius, everyone wants you to use your facebook account nowadays
[02:40] <drowsygenius> ok, so with one copper heatsink i was getting 61C and the heat warning, with 2 heatsinks im sitting pretty at 50c
[02:40] <drowsygenius> nice rlared
[02:40] <Breeboppa> Very nice !
[02:41] <drowsygenius> i notice, ubuntu mate on raspberry pi 3 defaults 64megs of vram - havent looked into how to change allotment
[02:41] <drowsygenius> *noticed
[02:42] <Breeboppa> I have to pick up a few Raspi #'s   I have a few B+'s and 2's
[02:42] <Breeboppa> I'd like a 3
[02:42] <RlaRed> def gonna settle with Ubuntu Mate for my python and C programming learning adventure :D
[02:42] <drowsygenius> ah ok. I will test this ubuntu mate on my pi 2.  I know my pi 2 generates less heat but I hope it wont be slow
[02:42] <drowsygenius> heck ya man
[02:43] <drowsygenius> im revisiting python and getting into SQL for a job internship
[02:43] <Breeboppa> yeah, but the 3 has more cores and more RAM no ?
[02:44] <drowsygenius> pi 3 has same number of cores, it runs a faster clock and optimized architecture,
[02:44] <RlaRed> that's cool.  i learned some C++ back in the day but my job has nothing to do with programming
[02:44] <Breeboppa> Ah! yes yes faster clock
[02:44] <RlaRed> i just want to learn it for fun and then maybe work on some open source project or something
[02:44] <drowsygenius> so rlared, do you think you my venture into computer programming as a career?
[02:45] <drowsygenius> pi 3 = 1.20ghz | pi 2 = 900mhz
[02:45] <meygahmann> ha so funny we just decided to do senior design with raspberry pi 3 and 7" screen
[02:45] <RlaRed> drowsygenius: maybe one day, who knows.  it's a long road to learn it and i make pretty good money.  but if i get good at it in a few years then who knows
[02:45] <meygahmann> we were actually just looking online for a good deal
[02:45] <drowsygenius> meyga - awesome do it!  im loving my setup!!!
[02:45] <meygahmann> how much did you spend?
[02:46] <drowsygenius> do you live in the states?
[02:46] <meygahmann> yup
[02:46] <winston2k> hello
[02:46] <meygahmann> greetings from florida :)
[02:46] <winston2k> are we liking  our mate ?
[02:46] <Breeboppa> lots and lots of online resources to learn Python
[02:47] <RlaRed> hello.  greetings from houston
[02:47] <Breeboppa> NYC here
[02:47] <RlaRed> Breeboppa: yeah actually fark.com had a deal yesterday for like $19 you get two entire courses
[02:47] <drowsygenius> I paid 70 for screen, 20 for case, 29 for pi 3, 9 bucks for 32gb microsd chip so about 128 total, closer to 140 with taxes
[02:47] <RlaRed> i picked it up so now i'm set for a good bit of learning
[02:47] <meygahmann> did you buy it online?
[02:47] <drowsygenius> greetings meyga.  I'm from Denver, Colorado :)
[02:48] <Breeboppa> Yeah RlaRed ?! Nice ! I got a class from udemy for like $20
[02:48] <drowsygenius> Do you have a microcenter near you?  Microcenter.com
[02:48] <meygahmann> ill check
[02:48] <RlaRed> Breeboppa: nice. . . did you do it yet?  how was it?
[02:48] <Breeboppa> Im looking at it now, it's pretty good so far !
[02:48] <drowsygenius> you can get all parts from Microcenter.com - i recommend going into one if one is nearby
[02:49] <Breeboppa> Microcenter is da bomb !
[02:49] <drowsygenius> hell yeah!!! Microcenter is the beesKnees!
[02:49] <Breeboppa> got all my Arduino's and Raspi's there and all my electronic parts and sensors there
[02:50] <RlaRed> yeah i struggled with which language to learn first since I had a tiny bit of C++ education years ago, and since linux is written with C
[02:50] <drowsygenius> hell yeah, thats the way to do it.  i get tired waiting for shipping, so i drive about 15mins- 20mins to my nearest one
[02:50] <RlaRed> but i ended up deciding on python
[02:50] <drowsygenius> python is the language "experts" recommend, one of the easier ones
[02:51] <RlaRed> yeah.  are you learning python 2 or 3?
[02:51] <drowsygenius> I have html, css, and javascript under my belt.  now getting back into python 2, i should do 3 however
[02:51] <Breeboppa> back in the day I learned C from the Denis Ritchie book.. hard as hell.. thank god for O'Riley press !!!
[02:51] <drowsygenius> lol, those damn hard books
[02:52] <RlaRed> i guess knowing javascript probably makes python a little bit easier
[02:52] <drowsygenius> meyga - did you ever find a microcenter near you with their online locator?
[02:52] <RlaRed> yeah learning C from a book would be a bit rough. . . you'd have to do little portions at a time so as not to get super bored
[02:52] <RlaRed> not sure if i'll go with C or C++ after python
[02:53] <Breeboppa> back in the 386 processor days.. 256meg ram, 40 meg hard drives
[02:53] <drowsygenius> so true - baby bites, spit a bit out - then get ready for the next bite
[02:53] <drowsygenius> lol
[02:53] <RlaRed> man i'm really impressed how nice Ubuntu Mate is
[02:53] <Breeboppa> I learned at NYU in the late 80's, they had a C programming for Unix certificate
[02:54] <RlaRed> i can't imagine how awesome it's gonna be in a year or two after a few point releases
[02:54] <drowsygenius> depends, do you want to code machine level, aka assembly
[02:54] <RlaRed> Breeboppa: ah that's badass
[02:54] <RlaRed> drowsygenius: not really
[02:54] <drowsygenius> ahh ok
[02:55] <RlaRed> i mean theoretically i could get deep into it and start working on something hardcore, but i doubt it
[02:55] <RlaRed> i don't have a computer science background so that's pretty unlikely
[02:55] <drowsygenius> so RlaRed and Breboppa may I add you to my friends list?
[02:55] <drowsygenius> hmm, you could make computer science your background if you wanted to...
[02:56] <RlaRed> drowsygenius: yeah sure. . . how does that work?
[02:56] <Breeboppa> We did Assembler on the 8088 in 1983. I never want to see assembler again...;^)
[02:56] <RlaRed> yeah i could go back to school i suppose
[02:56] <drowsygenius> right click someone's name in the list
[02:56] <drowsygenius> or get your foot in the door as a software engineer and get real world experience during the time it would have taken you to complete school...
[02:57] <RlaRed> yeah and what does friending do?
[02:57] <Breeboppa> Okay all !!! Enjoy your evening,,,  Mate rock !!
[02:57] <RlaRed> drowsygenius: yeah exactly, that's more likely.
[02:57] <RlaRed> Breeboppa: night
[02:57] <meygahmann> strange my mouse left click stopped working
[02:57] <meygahmann> all better now
[02:57] <RlaRed> drowsygenius: honestly i'll probably never do it professionally, but i guess you never know
[02:57] <RlaRed> not sure i'd want to do it all day long anyway
[02:57] <meygahmann> drowsy no micro center near me
[02:57] <drowsygenius> It says add to friends list. just a notifier when you are online again, not too sure
[02:58] <RlaRed> probably better left as a "labor of love" type things
[02:58] <drowsygenius> oh, gotach RlaRed...
[02:58] <RlaRed> ah ok so if you add me as a friend, does it have any effect on me?
[02:58] <RlaRed> or just on your side?
[02:58] <winston2k> meygahman that has happened to me
[02:58] <drowsygenius> just myside
[02:58] <drowsygenius> damn no micro center
[02:58] <meygahmann> anyone have google drive working on 15.10?
[02:58] <drowsygenius> that is sad news meyga
[02:59] <meygahmann> yeah i know
[02:59] <RlaRed> i'm using 16.04
[02:59] <drowsygenius> is google drive finally working with ubuntu?  I gave up 5 years ago
[02:59] <RlaRed> drowsygenius: ok yeah i added you as well
[02:59] <drowsygenius> google drive sync you are talking about yeah?
[02:59] <meygahmann> yeah
[02:59] <drowsygenius> cool.  you are added
[02:59] <drowsygenius> when did they get the sync working on ubuntu in general?
[02:59] <meygahmann> around 4 years ago
[02:59] <RlaRed> nice.  i should be around pretty frequently now that i've decided on Ubuntu Mate
[03:00] <RlaRed> i was trying all sorts of different distros before this
[03:00] <meygahmann> but google recently changed thier api so it doesnt work anymore
[03:00] <RlaRed> Mint, Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch, etc etc etc
[03:00] <drowsygenius> sounds good RlaRed, im satisified with this one.  I'll update my core i5 laptop in a couple of weeks but for now this raspberry pi 3 will be my thin client messaging linux pc lol
[03:01] <meygahmann> kubuntu is really  similiar i used it about 4 years ago
[03:01] <drowsygenius> oh so the google sync is broken now?
[03:01] <drowsygenius> true dat about kubuntu
[03:01] <drowsygenius> kubuntu - heavier gui
[03:01] <RlaRed> drowsygenius: so you remote into another computer to chat?  is that what you mean by "thin client"?
[03:02] <meygahmann> well i heard its broken ill try it now to see myself
[03:02] <RlaRed> I tried KDE back in the day and it's pretty nice.  But i watched some videos and it does seem a little bit overkill for my needs.
[03:02] <drowsygenius> well, i could remote into this one but its on the corner of my desk.  I meant thin as thin in resources lol
[03:02] <RlaRed> i want something that's light on resources, looks good, has a taskbar, but isn't too much like Windows
[03:02] <drowsygenius> RlaRed - have you checked out puppylinux?
[03:02] <RlaRed> so Mate is perfect.    What's puppy based off of?  Regardless, Ubuntu MATE is perfect for me so I probably won't be checking anything out at this point
[03:03] <RlaRed> drowsygenius: ah ok, or maybe the computer is just physically super thin :D
[03:04] <drowsygenius> yeah puppy is lightweight simple only 100mb iso
[03:04] <RlaRed> that's cool.  don't need it to be THAT lightweight though :)
[03:04] <drowsygenius> RlaRed, lol :)  I love my pc's thin and my women curvy :)
[03:04] <RlaRed> i'm running in virtualbox with a pretty powerful PC so mainly i just don't want a ton of eye candy and animations
[03:05] <drowsygenius> gotcha
[03:05] <RlaRed> drowsygenius: really?   I was planning on finishing a python book this week, but Hearts of Iron 4 blew that plan out of the water.
[03:06] <drowsygenius> ha ha, I can't have too skinny.  I do love skinny women with curvy assets :)
[03:06] <RlaRed> fifty-sevenC: lol.  you game a lot?
[03:06] <drowsygenius> Eh put hearts of iron 4 on ice, it will be back after you finish that python book
[03:06] <fifty-sevenC> Used too. But gamed a lot since HOI4 came out
[03:06] <RlaRed> drowsygenius: yeah i actually just said that cuz it was funny.  :)
[03:07] <RlaRed> fifty-sevenC: I got crazy for Civ 5 and Gal Civ 3 for a few months, thank god it passed
[03:07] <drowsygenius> i like rocket league for pc.   Then discovered the AI doesn't know how to play. :(
[03:08] <RlaRed> no wife leaving would be bad
[03:08] <drowsygenius> I have a gtx 960 4gb.  Phenom X4 8gb ram.  So not too powerful pc
[03:08] <RlaRed> hmmmm you have a separate video card though. . . that's pretty powerful
[03:08] <drowsygenius> ha ha at AI doesnt know how to play
[03:08] <RlaRed> i have intel on-board graphics. . . not gonna cut it probably :D
[03:09] <drowsygenius> yeah i use seperate video card, i like to max everything out on rocket league
[03:09] <drowsygenius> intel on-board graphics might get raped a bit...
[03:10] <drowsygenius> So anyone interested in building a VR pc or already has one?
[03:10] <drowsygenius> *VR ready pc
[03:11] <RlaRed> nah i'm a cheap bastard
[03:11] <fifty-sevenC> USSR still getting owned by Panzer 2s I stock piled before WW2 in 1942. After I already got Pz3s and replaced my Pz3s with Pz4s. USSR doesn't even bother building tanks. Seemingly stumbled into a unit type that could destroy Pz2s in 1942. But didn't bother to upgrade it to be able to handle Pz3s or Pz4s.
[03:11] <RlaRed> sounds like i would think that's hardcore if I had any clue about that game
[03:12] <fifty-sevenC> Pz2s were obsolete before WW2 even started
[03:12] <fifty-sevenC> USSR had Heavy tanks before WW2 and t-34s before Germany attacked russia
[03:13] <drowsygenius> ha ha, im getting that way. I think it's because i have a long-term girlfriend again. so I pay for other things, Now i need to convince her into my tech projects - she will become my angel investor :)
[03:14] <RlaRed> a tech sugar mama
[03:14] <RlaRed> i like it
[03:14] <drowsygenius> Alright RlaRed, I have to take a MENSA test tomorrow.    Good night!
[03:38] <javashin> hello someone knows when mate gtk3 is going to be in xenial ?
[04:01] <junior> opa
[05:05] <javashin>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-24-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU       M 380  @ 2.53GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.6GiB, 82.8% free ** Disk: Total: 101.4GiB, 44.2% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID ** Ethernet: None found ** Uptime: 27m 10s **
[05:05] <javashin> :)
[05:28] <guest-rom5lq> hi
[05:29] <guest-rom5lq> i can not read my ubuntu mate desktop. it was corrupted
[05:29] <guest-rom5lq> viewing unreadable text
[05:30] <guest-rom5lq> can any one help me
[05:46] <fifty-sevenC> :( Boom and zoom man. Boom and zoom.
[05:47] <fifty-sevenC> There won't be a gtk3 mate in xenial.  There is just less things to need to fix for it.
[06:02] <javashin> i installed the other day
[06:02] <javashin> is dead
[06:02] <javashin> xfce is droping it too
[06:02] <fifty-sevenC> xfce is moving to qt though
[06:02] <javashin> no
[06:03] <javashin> never
[06:03] <alkisg> That's LXDE, isn't it?
[06:03] <javashin> yes
[06:03] <javashin> lxqt
[06:03] <fifty-sevenC> Ah
[06:03] <alkisg> javashin: there are PPAs in Ubuntu that will give you newer packages
[06:03] <javashin> there is a version of lxde gtk3 too
[06:04] <javashin> yeah but debian got 52000 pkgs on sid
[06:04] <alkisg> Why is that important?
[06:04] <alkisg> All the good packages get to debian stable and ubuntu as well
[06:05] <alkisg> The bad packages that don't make it there, are not worth it
[06:05] <javashin> i like rolling release distros
[06:05] <javashin> cutting edge
[06:05] <alkisg> Then by all means use it
[06:06] <fifty-sevenC> Debian isn't cutting edge and using the testing version I wouldn't call cutting edge either.
[06:06] <javashin> i have archlinux too
[06:06] <javashin> sid is cutting edge
[06:06] <javashin> got systemd 230 gnome 3.20
[06:06] <javashin> mate 1.14.1 gtk3
[07:02] <gordonjcp> javashin: I used to use Arch but ended up just switching to Ubuntu because Arch had too many broken packages
[07:02] <gordonjcp> javashin: "cutting edge" is nice and all, but I prefer "not broken"
[07:03] <gordonjcp> you can't rely on rolling release distros
[07:07] <javashin> arch is fine
[07:08] <gordonjcp> javashin: not if you want to get stuff done
[10:09] <Guest79840> Buon giorno a tutti
[10:43] <tiox> Hey. I am looking for the author of Ubuntu MATE, Martin Wimpress. I know he frequents Jupiter Broadcasting's channel, I'm wondering if anyone would happen to know if he still uses the Wimpy handle or if he goes by something else?
[11:00] <Mikaela> tiox: flexiondotorg
[11:01]  * flexiondotorg is Wimpy.
[11:18] <ubuntu-mate> ciao
[11:18] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[13:03] <florida> Hi! Just want to say hello to everybody. Just finished installing Ubuntu-Mate, and also just did the latest updates to it...!
[13:04] <florida> This OS really digs! I love it!
[13:04] <florida> See ya all soon!
[13:13] <flexiondotorg> https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/mate-desktop-gtk2-vs-gtk3-memory-consumption/
[13:14] <ouroumov_> yay
[13:17] <gordonjcp> nice
[13:32] <racharya> can someone help me with the weak wifi issue?
[13:33] <racharya> related to this thread here : https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues/88
[13:33] <racharya> not sure how to proceed
[13:33] <racharya> any help will be much appreciated. Thanks!
[13:41] <ouroumov_> !ping
[14:19] <bonnie> hi
[14:22] <ouroumov_> hi bonnie
[14:24] <bonnie> anybody here working on ubuntu mate on the pi 3?
[14:25] <ouroumov_> You mean like in a development capacity?
[14:26] <bonnie> ya something like that
[14:28] <bonnie> reasion im asking i cant get flash player to work i installed pepper and updated it and firefox saying it not installed
[14:29] <ouroumov_> Have you searched the forums for this issue?
[14:29] <bonnie> i been allover google
[14:30] <ouroumov_> No I mean the ubuntu mate forum
[14:30] <bonnie> ya
[14:30] <ouroumov_> this one: https://ubuntu-mate.community/
[14:30] <ouroumov_> ok
[14:31] <bonnie> thats where i got the install link from
[14:32] <ouroumov_> Is Google Chrome able to run on the rpi3? It might be a better option if you need flash but are not bound to firefox
[14:33] <bonnie> i did cromium and got the same issue
[14:34] <ouroumov_> chromium is not chrome
[14:35] <JensNDS> but firefox is fucking bullshit
[14:35] <JensNDS> don't use firefox!
[14:36] <ouroumov_>  hum
[14:36] <ouroumov_> JensNDS, why?
[14:36] <JensNDS> ouroumov_: look at your ram
[14:37] <ouroumov_> My RAM is OK: I've got some left
[14:38] <JensNDS> wait 4 houres
[14:38] <ouroumov_> I've been running the machine for a month
[14:39] <ouroumov_> I have many tabs on two different firefox windows
[14:40] <gordonjcp> JensNDS: running Firefox here, what about it?
[14:40] <JensNDS> is shit
[14:40] <JensNDS> firefox ist shit!!!!!
[14:40] <ouroumov_> I smell a fanboy :>
[14:40] <JensNDS> on windows is ok but on linux is teribble
[14:41] <gordonjcp> JensNDS: calm down
[14:41] <gordonjcp> JensNDS: what's wrong with it?
[14:41] <JensNDS> ram, and x-server crashes on ubuntu mate 16.05
[14:41] <JensNDS> 16.04 sorry
[14:41] <ouroumov_> Are we talking about and X crash or about firefox?
[14:42] <bonnie> i just need flashplayer for ubuntu mate 16.04 with firefox for the pi 3?
[14:45] <JensNDS> ouroumov_: firefox is the reasen for the x-server crash
[14:46] <ouroumov_> No a bug in Xserver is the reason for xserver crash
[14:51] <camason_> hi guys. I'm having trouble installing onto a brand new system + blank SSD. I'm getting a prompt "Force UEFI Installation" which I can't close
[14:52] <ouroumov_> camason_, can you enable legacy mode and turn off secure boot in bios?
[14:54] <camason_> I'll have a look 2 mins
[15:00] <camason_> seems to have gotten through by allowing Ubuntu to pick partitions
[15:10] <JensNDS> wc
[15:57] <JakesDen> Hello, anyone know how to get the "linux-firmware-nonfree" package again?
[16:03] <JakesDen> Hello, anyone know how to get the "linux-firmware-nonfree" package again?
[16:03] <JakesDen> Nevermind I found it
[20:29] <blito> Hi guys. I installed Ubuntu Mate 16.04 a few days ago, and I just got a pop up saying I have 15.10 and that I should upgrade it. What should I do?
[20:30] <blito> First time I install linux, I don't even know where to start looking for help.
[20:32] <gordonjcp> blito: are you sure you installed 16.04?
[20:34] <blito> gordonjcp, is there any place I can check besides looking for the name of the .iso?
[20:34] <gordonjcp> blito: open a terminal, "cat /etc/issue"
[20:35] <blito> 15.10
[20:35] <blito> ....
[20:35] <blito> I'll go find the .iso
[20:35] <gordonjcp> haha
[20:35] <blito> lol, thanks
[20:35] <gordonjcp> you can either do an upgrade, or reinstall from scratch
[20:35] <blito> is it the same?
[20:36] <gordonjcp> well, no, if you reinstall you'll likely wipe anything you've got installed, anything in /home
[20:36] <blito> should I just follow the GUI?
[20:36] <gordonjcp> for the updater?
[20:36] <blito> yea
[20:36] <gordonjcp> yeah, if it's not going to take a million years on your internet connection :-)
[20:36] <gordonjcp> if you had to download the 16.04 iso it would take about as long as doing the upgrade to install
[20:37] <blito> right
[20:38] <blito> will the update be as clean as a reinstall from scratch? coming from windows i'd do a reinstall just in case
[20:40] <gordonjcp> blito: nothing stopping you doing a reinstall if you'd prefer
[20:40] <gordonjcp> blito: an update will keep your installed applications, settings, and files in your homedir
[20:41] <linux_> Hello all . Installing Ubuntu mate on my 3 computers atm ;)
[20:43] <blito> gordonjcp, ok. I guess I'll do it in a while.
[20:43] <blito> after checking that iso haha
[20:43] <blito> thanks for your help
[20:43] <gordonjcp> linux_: at that rate, you're just about worthwhile making an install server
[20:43] <gordonjcp> blito: no worries
[20:44] <linux_> ;)
[21:33] <pilne> hrm
[21:34] <pilne> i just did a fresh install of ubuntu-mate, on the old one, steam had a different icon in the panel. on this one, it has the older one (if i recall) and keeps complaining about outdated binaries when i launch it, but works fine. i said something in #ubuntu to no response for quite some time.
[23:26] <__CoolGuy> Cannot send to channel. What does it mean?
[23:28] <ubuntu-mate> hello guys
[23:29] <ubuntu-mate> tengo un problema para instalar mi distro Ubunt Mate
[23:30] <ubuntu-mate> no pasa de la opcion para seleccionar la red de internet, luego que la selecciono el instalador se queda colgado y no pasa de ahi
[23:35] <teward> __CoolGuy: you're either banned or quieted in the channel, or +m is on and you don't have voice.  Though, #freenode should be where those questions get directed