[18:24] <lamalex> but all you should have to do is install it again
[18:24] <Mimi> wont that remove the gimp version he just installed?
[18:24] <elliott> I'm having a really hard time with the GUI in general in the intrpid kubuntu beta
[18:24] <Tm_T> bsnider: they have different policy, different aim etc etc
[18:24] <bsnider> on the other hand, mandriva is still using 9.10 like ubuntu
[18:24] <elliott> and by hard time, I mean it''s unusable
[18:24] <ShackJack> lamalex: Install 2.6... yes... Thanks... Here's hoping 2.6 makes it into the backports soon - it's great!! (Though a little quirky with Compiz)
[18:24] <Tm_T> bsnider: Fedora IIRC isn't commercially supported etc
[18:24] <elliott> i've been in here a few times but none of the suggestions have worked
[18:25] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just upgraded to ubuntu 8.10beta, and though everything is fine, firefox is not. It shows lots of render errors, or maybe just simple CSS problems, Im not sure. radiobuttons and checkboxes are too big, there are weird background colors around DHTML components, etc.. Is there anything known about this problem for 8.10?
[18:25] <Tm_T> elliott: can you please elaborate?
[18:26] <bsnider> Tm_T, supposedly, red hat is basing the next version of RHEL on fedora 10
[18:27] <elliott> essentailly, any window that is maximized is not displayed at all, the task bar at the bottom is not showing up. When it did before, it always had weird display issues. whatever window is in focus appears as the background image, stretched and pixellated. I'm also having frequesnt lockups.
[18:27] <Tm_T> bsnider: yes, _next_ which they have time to polish
[18:27] <Tm_T> elliott: and you are using what display driver?
[18:27] <elliott> it happens on both 64 bit and 32 bit, both on live cd and an installation that was upgraded from hardy
[18:27] <elliott> how do I find out?
[18:28] <nikeplektrum> How do I set a static IP that lasts after reboot?
[18:29] <elliott> Tm_T how do I find out?
[18:32] <Tm_T> elliott: well what displaycard you have?
[18:32] <elliott> Tm_T: ATI radeon x300 i think
[18:33] <Tm_T> elliott: and you have the newest drivers installed?
[18:33] <Tm_T> elliott: also drop all special effects just for fun
[18:35] <Ayabara> I'm having some dependency issues with vlc, and I can neither upgrade or remove it. Any way I can force it to be uninstalled, or find out what the dependency problems are?
[18:35] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just upgraded to ubuntu 8.10beta, and though everything is fine, firefox is not. It shows lots of render errors, or maybe just simple CSS problems, Im not sure. radiobuttons and checkboxes are too big, there are weird background colors around DHTML components, etc.. Is there anything known about this problem for 8.10?
[18:35] <elliott> Tm_T, when I tried to install xorg-driver-fglrx, it wouldn't accept it. i got the following error
[18:36] <elliott> The following packages have unmet dependencies:rn  xorg-driver-fglrx: Depends: xserver-xorg-core but it is not going to be installed                                                                             rnE: Broken packages
[18:36] <elliott> xserver-xorg-core is installed tohugh
[18:37] <Tm_T> elliott: hmm, so find a solution for that problem?
[18:39] <elliott> reinstalling xserver-xorg-core doesn't help
[18:44] <Ayabara> is there a way I can force removal of a package?
[18:48] <mich247> Hi! Since i upgraded to intrepid, i cannot compile my projects anymore.... errors in stl_construct.h (e.g. expected type-specifier)
[18:48] <mich247> anyone know what to do?
[18:48] <FliesLikeABrick> Ayabara try apt-get install -f first
[18:49] <danbh_intrepid> elliott: do you know if fglrx is even working on intrepid?
[18:49] <Ayabara> FliesLikeABrick: did that, but it didn't work. finally solved it with dpkg
[18:49] <FliesLikeABrick> good to know
[18:56] <jasonkim> Anyone knows how autostart works?   I can see some destkop files in /etc/xdg/autostart.. I added my desktop there and it works.. Howerver it started after gnome-settings-daemon.desktop..  How can I start it before the gnome-settings-daemon?
[18:56] <trojkolka> i just updated my 8.10 beta system and my wireless (an intel 2200bg card) died... dmesg tells me that the firmware can not be found... can someone confirm this?
[18:56] <nikeplektrum> Ok, I uninstalled the network manager, how do I get connected to my network and set a static IP manually?
[18:57] <danbh_intrepid> nikeplektrum: interfaces
[18:57] <danbh_intrepid> trojkolka: I would search launchpad
[18:57] <trojkolka> i tried but i only get alpha 5 and 6 bugs back with the 24 kernel not the 27
[18:58] <nikeplektrum> What interfaces danbh_intrepid ?
[18:58] <danbh_intrepid> trojkolka: can you post the bug number?
[18:58] <danbh_intrepid> nikeplektrum: /etc/network/interfaces
[18:58] <nikeplektrum> Ty
[18:59] <mich247> can noone tell me whats wrong with a simple recompile using intrepid? i get the following http://pastebin.ca/1228032
[19:00] <trojkolka> 180544 is similar to my situation only with different kernel and version of kubuntu
[19:00] <danbh_intrepid> mich247: I don't know if I can fix it, but mind pastebining the stl_construct.h?
[19:00] <danbh_intrepid> bug 180544
[19:01] <trojkolka> i can't see any ipw2200 drivers in my firmware folder /lib/firmware/<IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[19:02] <trojkolka> neither in .6 or .5
[19:02] <trojkolka> but it worked a couple hours ago in 27.7.11 (now it is .12 i assume)
[19:02] <OicemanO> hi kann mal wer testen ob ff2 buggy ist
[19:03] <Ayabara> !java
[19:03] <OicemanO> can anybody test firefox 2
[19:03] <danbh_intrepid> trojkolka: wait, so is it working?
[19:03] <OicemanO> because i think it is bugy
[19:03] <danbh_intrepid> OicemanO: use ff3
[19:03] <trojkolka> no it isnt my system doesnt "see" the card
[19:03] <danbh_intrepid> trojkolka: well, then you should post on the bug report, and say that the bug is still present
[19:04] <trojkolka> but it WAS working like an hour ago (before updating)
[19:04] <OicemanO> i use ff3 but i will know if it is buggy because i will also use ff2
[19:04] <trojkolka> well im not sure it is 100% the same bug
[19:04] <danbh_intrepid> trojkolka: then its a tough call I guess
[19:04] <trojkolka> i know =) that's the whole problem
[19:04] <danbh_intrepid> OicemanO: why not stop using ff2?
[19:05] <trojkolka> it also tells me that linux-image-generic package is being held back because linux-firmware cannot be installed or is missing in repos
[19:06] <OicemanO> danbh_intrepid: because ff2 have a lot more addons
[19:06] <trojkolka> is anyone at this moment still compiling packages to repos
[19:06] <danbh_intrepid> trojkolka: ah, you know, I have a broken kernel upgrade atm
[19:06] <mich247> danbh_intrepid,  http://pastebin.ca/1228040 <- this is the stl_construct.h file
[19:07] <trojkolka> danbh_intrepid: it's a matter of waiting till the packages get fixed isn't it
[19:07] <trojkolka> wired internet still works so it's not the end of the world
[19:08] <danbh_intrepid> mich247: isnt the line missing a class declaration?
[19:09] <danbh_intrepid> o wait, I bets its just c++ syntax that I don't know
[19:09] <DJones> After updating to the Restricted ATI driver that came available today, I've got a laptop screen that keeps flashing on and off, disabling the driver and the screen goes back to normal, is this a known issue
[19:09] <mich247> well; there is some syntax i don't know either ;-)
[19:10] <vbabiy> Hey will 8.10 have open office 3
[19:10] <danbh_intrepid> no
[19:10] <mich247> but the most interesting thing: how could that happen? i mean, is noone using STL ?
[19:10] <nikeplektrum> ok, have a static IP, but don't seem to have any DNS servers? I edited the resolv.conf
[19:10] <vbabiy> danbh_intrepid: was that to me?
[19:10] <danbh_intrepid> aye, no ooo3, at least thats the way it seems
[19:13] <Splex> i am having troubles building a custom kernel package (drm-intel-next)  when i run 'fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-version=-gem kernel-image kernel-headers'  the build fails saying 'make[1]: *** No rule to make target `vmlinuz'.  Stop.'  any idea how i can make make-kpkg work correctly?
[19:14] <Exilant> does make vmlinuz work directly?
[19:15] <Splex> no
[19:15] <Splex> make vmlinux works
[19:16] <Splex> i looked at the makefile, it only has rule for vmlinux
[19:16] <Splex> so, im thinking maybe it was a recent change to call it 'vmlinux' instead of 'vmlinuz'?
[19:17] <Exilant>   no clue, vmlinuz worked in 2.6.27rc8
[19:17] <Exilant> so it would have to be really recent
[19:17] <myk_robinson1> Hey. All of a sudden, all my wireless network devices are greyed out. Running lshw -C network shows all the wifi network devices as disabled. How do I re-enable them?
[19:18] <theBishop> I really like the DarkRoom/NewHuman theme, but certain applications are nearly impossible to read using it.  Here are some screenshots: http://i38.tinypic.com/5yxlk6.png http://i35.tinypic.com/5vpzs2.png
[19:18] <Splex> the git im running off is based on rc9
[19:18] <Splex> doubt they would change it that late
[19:19] <myk_robinson1> here's what I have:   http://pastebin.ca/1228048
[19:21] <trojkolka> myk_robinson1 i got also a wifi issue... mine is disabled and the network controller states unclaimed
[19:21] <danbh_intrepid> theBishop: I hate that theme.  I use newhuman
[19:21] <myk_robinson1> strange.. It was working this morning and for the last few days. Both my USB wireless and the native Intel 3945abg
[19:22] <trojkolka> it was working for me 90 minutes ago i have a 2200bg card
[19:22] <danbh_intrepid> wow, lots of updates today
[19:22] <B3z3rk3r> anyone is here know whether the driver issues with the GTX280 have been fixed yet?
[19:23] <myk_robinson1> d@mn, so i am sitting at my desk using my laptop with an ethernet cable....
[19:23] <myk_robinson1> when I could b sitting comfortably on my couch a few rooms away
[19:23] <myk_robinson1> like i was a few hours ago
[19:23] <trojkolka> myk_robinson1 i got the exact same problem here :D
[19:24] <Frijolie> after the last update, my wifi has stopped working. wicd/network-manager says that no wifi networks are available
[19:25] <trojkolka> join the club
[19:25] <trojkolka> ;)
[19:25] <myk_robinson1> at least we're not alone
[19:25] <trojkolka> same here
[19:25] <trojkolka> what card do you have?
[19:25] <myk_robinson1> i'm looking through some directories, and it looks like firmware has been moved....
[19:25] <maxb_> linux-restricted-modules changelog says " * firmware: Remove all firmware, now provided by linux-firmware
[19:25] <maxb_> Shouldn't it now depend on linux-firmware, then?
[19:26] <Frijolie> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[19:26] <myk_robinson1> Frijolie: same here
[19:26] <myk_robinson1> look at this: http://pastebin.ca/1228048
[19:26] <elliott> danbh_intrepid, no, i have no idea
[19:26] <Frijolie> was it the kernel update that did it?
[19:26] <myk_robinson1> the last line shows "firmware=n/a"
[19:26] <myk_robinson1> must have been, because my firmware used to be in /lib/firmware
[19:27] <myk_robinson1> now /lib/firmware has subdirectories
[19:28] <Frijolie> myk_robinson1: I've got a "linux-image-generic" stuck in update manager that won't allow me to check it for an update. unresolved dependencies?
[19:28] <Megaqwerty> Hi, for some reason GRUB doesn't have the "Last successful Boot" option anymore. How do I get that back?
[19:28] <maxb_> Yes, this is the hazard of running an unstable ubuntu
[19:29] <myk_robinson1> maxb_: agreed.. Annoying, but still an addiction.
[19:29] <myk_robinson1> Fortunately i have a stable desktop
[19:30] <Frijolie> so, I'm guessing since we're talking about it...there's not a known fix?
[19:30] <myk_robinson1> all my wifi stuff is grayed out in Network Manager. But, more and more updates keep coming every few minutes or so.. Perhaps it will get fixed by the end of the day. Maybe we are forcing the updates to run before they're supposed to..
[19:30] <danbh_intrepid> Frijolie: yeah, I have the same
[19:30] <myk_robinson1> i just got through running updates, now there are 35 more all of a sudden
[19:30] <trojkolka> waiting for the unresolved packages (linux-firmware package) to be in the repos and to update the systemafterwards should solve it i assume
[19:31] <gilster> i just did an update and my wireless is not working at all any input on that?
[19:31] <Frijolie> trojkolka: are "they" at least aware of this issue?
[19:31] <Frijolie> gilster: yeah, we're all having the same issue.
[19:32] <gilster> oh ok
[19:32] <Frijolie> At least my LAN connection is working
[19:32] <gilster> thanks
[19:32] <myk_robinson1> what is the irc command to change my name? for some reason, i have a 1 attached on the end///
[19:32] <IdleOne> there is nothing sudden about all the updates. there is a freeze on the main repo so the devs are sending everything that is critical
[19:32] <Megaqwerty> myk_robinson1: /nick
[19:32] <myk_robinson1> test
[19:32] <sourcemaker> will there a openoffice3 package available soon?
[19:32] <B3z3rk3r> myk_robinson1,  use /nick
[19:33] <IdleOne>  /nick myk_robinson
[19:33] <trojkolka> Frijolie: with they i meant the package owners/maintainers i dont know if they are aware of it
[19:33] <gilster> Frijolie: will i be able to fix this if i dont have alan acess.????
[19:33] <B3z3rk3r> sourcemaker, OO 3.0 is already available
[19:33] <myk_robinson> that's better
[19:33] <myk_robinson> thanks
[19:33] <B3z3rk3r> np
[19:33] <myk_robinson> wonder how that happened anyway, must not have properly terminated my last session or something
 is it in apt?
[19:34] <Megaqwerty> Hi, for some reason GRUB doesn't have the "Last successful boot" option anymore. Does anyone know how to get that back? I don't want to have to reinstall the system again.
[19:34] <Frijolie> trojkolka: yeah, the "they" was my doing. I assumed you were referring to the kernel devs
[19:34] <B3z3rk3r> sourcemaker, not that i know of, however  you can get RPM/DEB from google search
[19:35] <myk_robinson> as long as Intel 3945 works normally upon the final release, I will be a happy man..
[19:35] <Frijolie> gilster: no, my guess is that the fix will come with a new package via update-manager
[19:35] <sourcemaker> B3z3rk3r: well... I would like to use the official ubuntu package :-)
[19:35] <maxb_> Frijolie: What's your linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-7-generic version?
[19:35] <myk_robinson> I got it to work fine in Hardy using the drivers from http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[19:35] <B3z3rk3r> sourcemaker, ok ok.. not out yet.. should be within a week or two tho assuming u can wait that long?
[19:35] <myk_robinson> and it worked flawlessly.. No hiccups, no stalls...
[19:35] <Frijolie> maxb_: how do you check? What's the CLI?
[19:36] <B3z3rk3r> sourcemaker, dont see why you can access the update from within your current version of it tho?
[19:36] <B3z3rk3r> cant*
[19:36] <sourcemaker> B3z3rk3r: not really... but I have to...
[19:36] <trojkolka> myk_robinson does it still work now in intrepid?
[19:36] <maxb_> Frijolie: dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[19:36] <sourcemaker> B3z3rk3r: :-)
[19:36] <Frijolie> linux-restrict 2.6.27-7.12
[19:36] <trojkolka> dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[19:36] <trojkolka> sorry wrong window there
[19:36] <trojkolka> i also got 12
[19:36] <myk_robinson> trojkolka: the built in driver feels a bit buggy.. Drops the connection periodically.. i was going to install this one today, but I have no wifi at all right now.. Want to make sure everything else is right first
[19:37] <Frijolie> maxb_: so 12 to answer your question
[19:37] <maxb_> Frijolie: I suggest you roll back to -7.10
[19:37] <myk_robinson> didnt think of even trying to boot to the previous kernel. I have a feeling wifi may work there
[19:38] <Frijolie> maxb_: don't know how to do that...I'm still a newbie, well a 2-year *NIX exclusive, noob
[19:38] <trojkolka> i guess i will wait for the internal fix
[19:38] <Frijolie> I've always been having issues with network-manager since the upgrade to Intrepid..was working fine in Hardy
[19:38] <myk_robinson> well, on the bright side, gas is $2.67/gal today here :)
[19:39] <myk_robinson> no wifi required
[19:39] <trojkolka> this is the first time for me
[19:39] <Frijolie> Was even working on the Intrepid Beta LiveCD (network-manager)
[19:39] <myk_robinson> yeah, it was great on the live cd.
[19:39] <W8TAH> hi folks - been messing with a system at home and upon startup it is yelling about the nvida driver not loading properly under that new driver thing (DKMS???) i'll try to get more info but i wanted to see if anyone knew of an easy fix
[19:39] <myk_robinson> we still got two weeks before the final, though.. All part of the beta process
[19:39] <trojkolka> yeah it will be great again
[19:40] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: yeah, but no wifi is a critical flaw, at least I think. I expect software errors not driver instabilities
[19:40] <myk_robinson> not sure what happened with that kernel update, but, like i said, even my belkin usb wireless isnt working
[19:40] <myk_robinson> Frijolie: they pretty much HAVE to get it fixed, especially since dell is gonna ship units with 8.10
[19:41] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: yeah that's true. That's the beauty of having alliances with hardware vendors
[19:41] <myk_robinson> all things considered, i still like it better than vista
[19:41] <matt__> I have 2 pc's running intrepid - my wifi usb dongle works on one, the other i get authentication timeout?
[19:41] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: never seen Vista. I made the jump to Ubuntu just after SP2 on XP
[19:41] <myk_robinson> matt__: may be a similar issue to what we're having.. Did it work before today?
[19:42] <matt__> it works fine on other pc now if i switch it
[19:42] <myk_robinson> Frijolie: my laptop came with vista. Used it for a few weeks just to check it out. It wasnt bad, but it wasnt really good either.. I couldnt afford to do anything with it
[19:42] <maxb_> Frijolie: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)_2.6.27-7.10_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-restricted-modules-common_2.6.27-7.10_all.deb
[19:42] <myk_robinson> matt__: misunderstood.. You have one USB stick, and it works on one computer but not the other?
[19:43] <matt__> myk_robinson: yep thats it
[19:43] <Megaqwerty> Hi, for some reason GRUB doesn't have the "Last successful boot" option anymore. Does anyone know how to get that back? I don't want to have to reinstall the system again.
[19:43] <Frijolie> thanks maxb_
[19:43] <myk_robinson> matt__: dang... the one it is not working on, did it ever work?
[19:44] <Frijolie> I'm reading on the forums, says there's a workaround by downloading the linux-firmware.deb should fix the prob
[19:44] <sourcemaker> !vmware
[19:44] <myk_robinson> Frijolie: link to what you're reading?
[19:44] <myk_robinson> !intel 3945abg
[19:44] <matt__> myk_robinson: not before today, thing is I have another usb stick that doews the same thing on both pc's
[19:44] <myk_robinson> manufacturer and models?
[19:44] <myk_robinson> of the wifi?
[19:45] <myk_robinson> matt__: also, do they work fine on previous distributions?
[19:45] <Frijolie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=948665&page=2
[19:45] <trojkolka> Frijolie: that's the whole problem i assume since it is missing from the repos and that's the reason why the linux-image-generic package is being held back
[19:45] <matt__> myk_robinson: ones belkin f5d7050 (i know) the other safecom
[19:45] <B3z3rk3r3R> oops, let laptop go to sleep   :P
[19:46] <Frijolie> trojkolka: that would make sense. Any idea when they will be releasing it to the repos?
[19:46] <matt__> myk_robinson: safecom uses zd1211rw always been a rock
[19:46] <myk_robinson> yeah, that is what my Belkin usb uses
[19:46] <myk_robinson> It died today, apparently the firmware has temporarily been hosed
[19:46] <Frijolie> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+queue?queue_state=3&queue_text=linux-firmware
[19:46] <trojkolka> Frijolie no idea
[19:47] <Frijolie> ^^ that's the actual page where the linux-firmware.deb file is. Says it was posted 1 hr ago
[19:47] <maxb_> Megaqwerty: See /etc/default/kernel-helper-rc
[19:47] <Megaqwerty> maxb_: thanks a ton. Why would it be disabled?
[19:48] <trojkolka> it's not in my universal repostory yet that always takes some time
[19:49] <trojkolka> but it's good it's already there so the solution to our issue is upcoming hopefully
[19:49] <Frijolie> trojkolka: your predictions are correct, "linux-image-generic: Depends: linux-firmware  but it is not installable"
[19:49] <matt__> myk_robinson: i must be missing something, because both these usb sticks work on the other pc - same update etc
[19:49] <trojkolka> it wasn;t a prediction ;)
[19:50] <Frijolie> trojkolka: ah, an educated guess..hehe
[19:50] <trojkolka> i got the same message half an hour ago :d
[19:50] <myk_robinson> matt__: you may not have hit the update we have yet.. I'm bad about checking for updates every few minutes
[19:50] <sourcemaker> is there a multiverse repos for intrepid?
[19:50] <trojkolka> tried manually installing the linux-image-generic and linux-firmware deb and got the message
[19:51] <Frijolie> nyk_robinson: yeah same here. I check update-manager at least three times a day. Specially with the Beta(s)
[19:51] <sourcemaker> !multiverse
[19:51] <spiritssight> Is there a problem with updating right now
[19:54] <gilster> so i dont have any lan connectivity
[19:54] <gilster> sorry
[19:55] <Omar87> I'm having a problem with screensaver, it never starts, the monitor is always on, the only way I can turn it off is to close the laptop.
[19:55] <Omar87> Please, help.
[19:56] <trojkolka> it's in the repos now
[19:56] <trojkolka> linux-firmware
[19:56] <Frijolie> checking...!!
[19:57] <Frijolie> "Your system is up-to-date"
[19:58] <francisco_t> Hi, I lose console's color ( ls --color ) in intrepid beta. It was working fine in alphas, somebody else??
[19:59] <trojkolka> Frijolie: no packages available for you?
[19:59] <Frijolie> trojkolka: hang on...maybe third time will be the charm
[19:59] <trojkolka> haha i will reboot now brb
[20:00] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: yep, they've hit the repos
[20:02] <Fastly> i recently installed 8.10 beta and can't seem to find most programs listed in synaptic, including php, apache, mysql etc...
[20:03] <Fastly> anyone know if i have to enable a repo? or are the apps still limited in 8.10?
[20:04] <danbh_intrepid> Fastly: do you get any errors?
[20:04] <trojkolka> Works like a charm now
[20:04] <Fastly> no... i refresh the program list and try searching for "mysql" - no results..
[20:05] <myk_robinson> trojkolka: the package is not showing for me.. Is this a pre-released update?
[20:05] <danbh_intrepid> Fastly: wellm if you havent yet, check your repos
[20:05] <myk_robinson> i do not have pre-released updates checked in synaptic
[20:05] <trojkolka> me neither
[20:06] <trojkolka> do you have universal or localized?
[20:06] <trojkolka> repos
[20:06] <myk_robinson> i think universal..
[20:06] <myk_robinson> i unchecked all the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:07] <myk_robinson> oh, do you mean United States servers only?
[20:07] <trojkolka> no im not on US server
[20:07] <spiritssight> I get this error when I try and do updates for 8.10: It was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem. You may want to try again later. See below for a list of unauthenticated packages.
[20:07] <FliesLikeABrick> what is used to view pdf files in kubuntu 8.10?  kpdf doesn't appear to be included
[20:07] <myk_robinson> FliesLikeABrick: it uses Okular now
[20:07] <FliesLikeABrick> spiritssight does doing apt-get update again help?
[20:08] <trojkolka> i dont know why it doesnt show up in your repos
[20:08] <FliesLikeABrick> thanks myk_robinson
[20:08] <Tm_T> "main" != US IIRC
[20:08] <FliesLikeABrick> I used to use kpdf in ubuntu/gnome but noticed it is gone now
[20:08] <Fastly> i seem to have all repo options checked...
[20:08] <myk_robinson> reload is coming slow, maybe it'll show in a minute
[20:09] <myk_robinson> BRB, gonna watch this 14 second video of Kimbo getting knocked out, haven't seen it yet :)
[20:10] <spiritssight> it says:E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:10] <spiritssight> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[20:10] <MTeck> how many people came in and freaked out this morning?
[20:11] <MTeck> I lost my system and had to go back to 8.04 :P It was treating me extremely will until today :P
[20:13] <Mimi> Why would we freak out? It's beta.
[20:15] <myk_robinson> got the update compig now :)
[20:16] <myk_robinson> coming...
[20:16] <Frijolie1> what the? Man!
[20:16] <Frijolie1> I got my wifi back, but am still having issues with network-manager
[20:16] <Mimi> you guys talking about iwl3945 ?
[20:16] <Frijolie1> and after my reboot, i guess it never terminated my connection to IRC because it wouldn't let me log back on with my username
[20:17] <Mimi> then do /nickserv ghost ?
[20:17] <MTecknology> Mimi: did it die for many people? or was I just lucky?
[20:18] <Mimi> MTecknology, I don't know, but hey, that makes 2 of us :p
[20:18] <MTecknology> funny - I guess it's the point where everybody throws what they have at 8.10 and fix what breaks before release
[20:18] <Mimi> Whats funny is if I use the 8.04 kernel, I get wireless but no nvidia (both worked fine before the update) but if I use the newest kernel I get nvidia but no wireless hehe
[20:19] <Frijolie1> Everytime I start my OS I have to type "nm-applet&" in a terminal window and then keep it open to maintain an Internet connection
[20:19] <Frijolie1> any way to fix this?
[20:19] <Mimi> add it to your session?
[20:19] <Frijolie1> it's there
[20:19] <Frijolie1> Mimi: just checked
[20:19] <Mimi> the system tray icon i mean
[20:19] <MTecknology> Seems to happen once before every release. It's where I go back to the current release and wait for the release date - or slightly longer
[20:19] <ShackJack> Make sure you have the notification area applet in your panel...
[20:20] <ShackJack> Mimi: ^^
[20:20] <Frijolie1> Mimi: don't know what you mean. There is a "network monitor" option..is that it?
[20:21] <Frijolie1> Mimi: "network monitor" is not the same as network-manager
[20:21] <Splex> Exilant: still there?
[20:22] <Mimi> No idea, I used Wicd, Frijolie
[20:22] <Mimi> :P
[20:22]  * Mimi flexes
[20:22] <ShackJack> Mimi: See above...
[20:22] <Frijolie1> Mimi: yeah I have been using Wicd since I've installed Intrepid, just prefer network-manager when you can get it to work
[20:22] <Mimi>  "Make sure you have the notification area applet in your panel..."
[20:23] <Mimi> ShackJack,  i dont know if you said that regarding Frijolie  or myself. If it was myself, I do have the wicd tray icon on it. It's just the iwl3945 driver isnt loading for some reason
[20:24] <myk_robinson> well, gonna reboot, and Lord willing, come back on wifi
[20:24] <Frijolie1> Mimi: it was there in Hardy and has since disappeared in the upgrade to Intrepid
[20:24] <Frijolie1> myk_robinson: it will work..at least it did for me
[20:24] <Frijolie1> WTF?
[20:25] <Ayabara> !digikam-kde4
[20:25] <Frijolie> interesting
[20:25] <Ayabara> !info digikam-kde4
[20:25] <taggie> anybody have issues with ps2 keyboards not working in gdm lately? weirdest thing, ctrl-alt-f2 works to get a new text vt, but no text will register in gdm
[20:26] <Frijolie> oh, how I love Betas!
[20:26] <Frijolie> Betas on my "production machine"
[20:27] <myk_robinson> okay, that was a scary 20 seonds for me, but it appears to be working
[20:27] <taggie> eh, you're not really living if you're not on the edge. everybody needs some excitement now and then.
[20:27] <myk_robinson> yeah.
[20:27] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: you using network-manager or Wicd?
[20:27] <myk_robinson> network manager
[20:27] <trojkolka> good to hear myk_robinson
[20:27] <taggie> my favorite bug was during beta for hardy or gutsy i think, when there was a libc update that hosed everything.
[20:28] <myk_robinson> what is the default window manager for Gnome?
[20:28] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: hmm, wonder why mine isnt working then..we have the same wifi card
[20:28] <myk_robinson> Frijolie: did you get the updates run that inculded linux-firmware?
[20:28] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: yes, I'm on wifi now but, my network-manager applet is hosed
[20:29] <Frijolie> taggie: can't say I experienced that one. I must have missed it somewhere.
[20:29] <myk_robinson> even after a reboot? did you try from termin al           sudo NetworkManager restart
[20:29] <Mimi> Sorry for the dumb question but I am having a brain fart: what is a   -rt  kernel?
[20:29] <myk_robinson> i am running compiz. How do i revert to the default Gnome window manager? I know i can use compiz --replace, but what is the opposite?
[20:30] <myk_robinson> I need to drop compiz when i play sdlmame
[20:30] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: it's not starting with each session. I have to type "nm-applet&" in a term each time and leave it open to maintain Internet connection
[20:30] <Mimi> metacity --replace ?
[20:30] <myk_robinson> Frijolie: open   System-->Preferences-->Session
[20:30] <myk_robinson> you can define startup applications there
[20:31] <Mimi> He knows.
[20:31] <taggie> welp, time to reboot after 107 updates. i love the furious pace of late beta cycles. *cross fingers*
[20:31] <myk_robinson> I have an entry for network manager, and the command is    nm-applet --sm-disable
[20:32] <myk_robinson> Mimi: the metacity command did the trick, thanks
[20:32]  * Mimi nods
[20:32] <myk_robinson> I dont want to use the appearance thing, because it drops my custom settings
[20:34] <Splex> anyone else have any troubles with make-kpkg on 2.6.27?
[20:36] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: yeah the entry is there but it still doesn't load.
[20:36] <myk_robinson> hmmm..
[20:36] <myk_robinson> have you tried Wicd?
[20:37] <Mimi> YAY  wifi driver now available *kitteh face*  /goes update. bye ;D
[20:37] <myk_robinson> NetworkManager seems to be hit or miss for a lot of people
[20:37] <myk_robinson> with no explanation as to why it works for one and not hte other
[20:37] <Mimi> He has, he says he prefers N.M.  :P
[20:37] <myk_robinson> oh, i must have missed some conversation
[20:37] <myk_robinson> sorry
[20:37] <myk_robinson> i prefer NM too
[20:38] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: yeah, it's definately crazy.
[20:39] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: I have tried Wicd and that works, I just keep giving network-manager a try hoping the issue's fixed
[20:39] <myk_robinson> Frijolie: just out of curiousity, have you tried purging and reinstalling the package?
[20:39] <myk_robinson> perhaps something in its config is fried
[20:40] <virtuelv> did wifi just break for people updating?
[20:40] <myk_robinson> yes, but was fixed a few minutes agao
[20:40] <myk_robinson> you just barely missed the boat on that :)
[20:40] <virtuelv> what exactly broke?
[20:40] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: i've "completely removed" it from Synaptic. Is that a purge?
[20:40] <myk_robinson> wifi simply would not work, showed grayed out
[20:40] <myk_robinson> Frijolie: yes
[20:41] <virtuelv> myk_robinson: will a dist-upgrade fix it?
[20:41] <virtuelv> or is there something in particular I have to do?
[20:41] <myk_robinson> be sure to run apt-get update first
[20:41] <virtuelv> update -f, even
[20:41] <myk_robinson> virtuelv: apparently they changed something in the kernel, then released a new package called linux-firmware.   Run your updates the nupgrade, it should work
[20:41] <Frijolie> virtulv: it's fixed now in the repos
[20:42] <virtuelv> reboot required, I assume?
[20:42] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: maybe I'll make the switch over to wicd and then remove everything related to network-manager and try again
[20:42] <myk_robinson> that's what i was wondering, usually Wicd removes all traces of NetworkManager
[20:44] <Mimi> Oops, no internet on old kernel either now. :3 Anyway I will be able to do updates from now on (Need to grab new linux-firmware package to get internet to work)
[20:44] <Mimi> You think maybe I should get that .deb for the iwl3495 driver before updating?
[20:44] <myk_robinson> no
[20:44] <myk_robinson> its all included in the package linux-firmware, should get pulled on the update
[20:45] <scarface> Is there a way to boot the Live CD with sound disabled?  The login sound is very loud here at work and I need a way to silence it.
[20:45] <virtuelv_> myk_robinson: yay, that worked
[20:45] <virtuelv_> although, it took a sudo apt-get autoremove before it would come back up
[20:46] <samehsmh> hi
[20:46] <Mimi> myk_robinson,  how can I do that update if I  don't have wireless though? :P
[20:46] <myk_robinson> Mimi: are you able to connect by cable?
[20:46] <Mimi> myk_robinson, no, I'm on campus, don't have internet at home
[20:47] <myk_robinson> okay. I will load linux-firmware to meidafire real quick
[20:47] <Splex> maybe there is a way to downgrade the packages? probably have the previous debs still on the system
[20:47] <Mimi> :O If you think that will work ^.^ Hold on, so linux-firmare contains drivers to *all* possible hardware? O.o
[20:48] <Mimi> I thought it would be just for what my laptop needs, hehe
[20:48] <cyrax> I am running compiz fusion on Ubuntu 8.10... Now the majority of effects don't work, and ccsm looks... Strange. I can't choose the animation I want, I have to write which effect (by hand). Right now the open effect, for instance, is "12"... Any idea what to do?
[20:49] <myk_robinson> cyrax: you got all your updates run? there were a lot of compiz updates today
[20:50] <cyrax> I did
[20:50] <myk_robinson> here is the linux-firmware
[20:50] <myk_robinson> http://www.mediafire.com/?wxnijmty3nv
[20:50] <Mimi> Thank you :D
[20:50] <myk_robinson> hope it helps.
[20:50] <myk_robinson> not sure if any dependencies are needed
[20:50] <Mimi> I'll let you know ;)
[20:51] <myk_robinson> cyrax: not sure, I can send you a config file for Compiz for your to import, see if it works for ya.
[20:51] <samehsmh> I'm working on this program with c++ which uses strdup(), this error comes out:error: ‘strdup’ was not declared in this scope .. is there a package removed with the upgrade
[20:51] <samehsmh> ?
[20:51] <myk_robinson> umm.. using Pidgin, how do i send a file
[20:52] <myk_robinson> nvm, found it
[20:52] <myk_robinson> cyrax, you got mail
[20:52] <cyrax> myk_robinson - THanks!
[20:52] <myk_robinson> do you know where the import portion is in ccsm?
[20:53] <virtuelv_> myk_robinson: tried empathy yet?
[20:53] <myk_robinson> what is empathy?
[20:53] <virtuelv_> http://live.gnome.org/Empathy
[20:54] <kulight> myk_robinson: how is it (i didnt get by default)?
[20:54] <myk_robinson> kulight: what are you talking about?
[20:54] <kulight> empathy
[20:55] <myk_robinson> not using it, I'm currently on Pidgin
[20:55] <kulight> ah me too i thought u r
[20:55] <myk_robinson> looking at the screenshots, i dont see why i would use it over pidgin.
[20:55] <Mimi> Oh. I was like 'what the bunny?!?! Epiphany is a web browser, not a IMer!" ... ^^;; Empathy... haha what a name :)
[20:56] <myk_robinson> virtuelv_: care to comment?
[20:56] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: hmm, I'm back and after completely removing network-manager (locate network-manager) and deleting everything related and then reinstalling...problem solved!
[20:56] <myk_robinson> you go, man!
[20:57] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: there's a switch in the sessions command that I didn't have before
[20:57] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: maybe that mad a difference? "nm-applet --sm-disable"
[20:57] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: I had just "nm-applet&"
[20:59] <myk_robinson> strange, i posted the full commaand above, i thought that was what you had.. At any rate, its working
[21:00] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: yeah, i'm not complaining in the least! I'm glad that it's working and the program that I want. Now to change the new wallpaper
[21:03] <myk_robinson> Frijolie: is there new default wallpaper?
[21:04] <myk_robinson> Frijolie: you got mail, its a desktop shot of mine
[21:04] <kulight> myk_robinson: yes some kind of ibex
[21:05] <myk_robinson> must not have whatever package includes it. Anyone got an image?
[21:05] <myk_robinson> cyrax: any luck with that file i sent?
[21:05] <scientes> ubiquity just froxe on Configuring apt:Scanning the mirror---------am i safe just to kill it and reboot?
[21:05] <cyrax> myk_robinson - Yes, it gave me some of your settings
[21:05] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: send it again, i think i canceled it out
[21:05] <myk_robinson> is there a way to make Gnome Screenshot save as jpg instead of png?
[21:06] <cyrax> myk_robinson - But apparently my problem is that ccsm isn't compatible with compiz - different versions
[21:06] <scientes> or do i need to install again?????
[21:06] <kulight> myk_robinson: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-8-10-Has-a-Brand-New-Wallpaper-95451.shtml
[21:06] <scientes> who cares its a wallpaper
[21:06] <kulight> scientes: i like it
[21:07] <scientes> any idea on my non-bikshed?
[21:07] <scientes> o shii it finially finished
[21:07] <scientes> seriously that took 15 minutes to scan the mirror
[21:07] <myk_robinson> oh, i have that.. Didnt recognize it as an animal silhouette, thought it looked like a coffe spill or some kind of faux finished paint job
[21:07] <scientes> ''
[21:08] <kulight> myk_robinson::-D
[21:08] <scientes> why does networking tell me every gdang time 'i connected to a network!'
[21:08] <scientes> its like windows stupidity: 'You jsut plugged something into the headphone jack!'
[21:09] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: got it, what version of Gnome are you running?
[21:09] <scientes> and it does it every 30 se
[21:09] <myk_robinson> whatever the default is in 8.10  Just started using Gnome three days ago
[21:09] <myk_robinson> Running Compiz with my own custom settings in ccsm, AVN for the dock bar, and installed Mac4Lin theme packages
[21:09] <myk_robinson> you like?
[21:09] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: just noticed you don't have the Ubuntu, start button logo...
[21:09] <virtuelv_> myk_robinson: on empathy: I like it because it's so much more gnomeish
[21:10] <myk_robinson> do any of you now how to make Gnome Screenshot save as jpg instead of png?
[21:10] <virtuelv_> and apparently it supports msn better
[21:11] <myk_robinson> virtuelv_: never been one to chat except for these irc, oly other app i ever used was Konversation in KDE
[21:11] <scientes> this install is really show
[21:11] <scientes> slow
[21:11] <kulight> scientes: what install ?
[21:12] <myk_robinson> scientes: servers are a bit congested right now, consider how many people are running updates as we speak
[21:12] <myk_robinson> scientes: mine did the same networking thing before the last batch of updates
[21:12] <myk_robinson> works fine now
[21:12] <danbh_intrepid> hey everyone!!!!!! The kernel is fixed!!!!!!!
[21:13] <kulight> danbh_intrepid: witch part of it ?
[21:13] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: there's my screenie
[21:13] <myk_robinson> hmm, its not starting yet..
[21:13] <myk_robinson> may take a sec
[21:14] <danbh_intrepid> kulight: well, it got uploaded to the repo, I just downloaded it.  It was a broken package
[21:14] <virtuelv_> Wondering when we'll see this: http://svn.python.org/view/python/trunk/Lib/antigravity.py?rev=66902&view=markup
[21:14] <myk_robinson> for anyone who cares, here's my screen:    http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotut5.jpg
[21:14] <kulight> danbh_intrepid: oh you did partial upgrade ?
[21:15] <Frijolie> danbh_intrepid: yeah, I was scared when my wifi went down. took 1/2 day to fix
[21:15] <myk_robinson> that's much better than Windows fixing an issue
[21:15] <Frijolie> myk_robinson: yes, that's what I meant
[21:15] <myk_robinson> heck, i think a few hours is more than acceptable, although i was sweating bullets for a minute
[21:15] <myk_robinson> how many of you were wondering if YOU broke something
[21:16] <danbh_intrepid> virtuelv_: lol
[21:16] <myk_robinson> Frijolie: the file is not coming, can you post it at http://imageshack.us
[21:17] <kulight> nothing broke on my machine and i just did upgrade of about 86 packs
[21:21] <virtuelv> hm, Human in intrepid has developed warts
[21:21] <virtuelv> the menu bar is partially transparent
[21:22] <scientes> can i make encrypted disks with the normal installer?
[21:24] <samehsmh> can someone help, it seems all C string functions(strcmp, strdup,...) won't compile anymore
[21:24] <pen> ??
[21:24] <samehsmh> after upgrade
[21:25] <samehsmh> the compiler says error: ‘strdup’ was not declared in this scope
[21:26] <myk_robinson> connection dropped for a sec
[21:26] <myk_robinson> that was weird
[21:29] <Mimi> Hey myk? Remember that mediafire linux-firmare thing you sent me? It's not downloading :P
[21:40] <pen> anyone using firefox 3.1?
[21:40] <webmaren> well I managed to fix my problem by installing kubuntu-desktop
[21:40] <pen> is it really faster?
[21:40] <pen> why I feel safari in mac faster?
[21:40] <myk_robinson> samehsmh: do you have the package build-essential installed?
[21:40] <webmaren> pen: I've found opera to be faster than FF
[21:41] <pen> webmaren, like in safari, it can smooth scroll ANY page
[21:41] <webmaren> pen: safari is faster on macs because the safari was designed to be run on macs
[21:41] <Mimi> platform specific
[21:41] <myk_robinson> Mimi: try here:   http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wxnijmty3nv
[21:41] <pen> webmaren, but it uses webkit which is not really fast in other webkit browsers
[21:41] <pen> I don't understand
[21:41] <webmaren> ff, opera, what have you work on all OS's so the speed gets compromised
[21:41] <samehsmh> myk_robinson: yes
[21:42] <pen> and I dled 3.1pre2 and tested on both mac and windows
[21:42] <pen> still
[21:42] <pen> not fast
[21:42] <pen> I wonder if there is any mature webkit browsers for linux?
[21:42] <samehsmh> my_robinson: i think it's upgrading to gcc-4.3
[21:42] <EruditeHermit> is today a good day to upgrade to Ibex? Is anything broken?
[21:44] <virtuelv> anyone here running on a thinkpad? (x61s) do you regularily connect external screens?
[21:44] <bluedog> virtuelv: I am running that right now
[21:44] <virtuelv> bluedog: if you connect an external display, does Fn+F7 work for you?
[21:45] <bluedog> virtuelv: no, I have to use the nvidia-settings tool
[21:45] <Splex> anyone else have troubles building the 2.6.27 kernel with kernel-package (make-kpkg)?
[21:45] <virtuelv> bluedog: did it work in the past?
[21:45] <webmaren> running Kubuntu 8.10 and AmaroK 1.92.2 and I can't get any sound
[21:46] <webmaren> more accurately: I can't get any sound from anywhere
[21:46] <Mimi> ah myk_robinson  im getting time outs with that site for some reason.. *tries on other browser* thank you though ^_^
[21:46] <webmaren> but I had sound before I upgraded
[21:46] <bluedog> virtuelv: on 8.04 it didn't and I got in the habbit of using twinview, and I didn't think to test it after the upgrade
[21:46] <samehsmh> myk_robinson: I got it!! I use #include <cstring> instead of #include <string> it's here<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:47] <virtuelv> webmaren: try disabling the sound alert on the login screen, reboot and see if it helps
[21:47] <myk_robinson> Mimi: sending it through IRC
[21:48] <myk_robinson> Mimi: how about this:    http://download191.mediafire.com/z3jtjz3hm1gg/wxnijmty3nv/linux-firmware_1.1_all.deb
[21:48] <myk_robinson> a direct download
[21:48] <virtuelv> bluedog: then I doubt we're having the same problem -- my gpu is an intel, and this failed a couple of weeks ago
[21:49] <bluedog> virtuelv: I have the nvidia card fn-f7 never was reliable
[21:50] <Mimi> Thanks again myk_robinson
[21:50] <virtuelv> bluedog: and you can't get the thinkvantage button to work either, I presume?
[21:50] <myk_robinson> get it that time?
[21:50] <Mimi> It's downloading :)
[21:53] <myk_robinson> Mimi: are you getting it from the link at mediafire? I'm about to shut down, just wanna make sure you're done first
[21:53] <myk_robinson> Gonna go watch a movie with my girls
[21:53] <Mimi> I got it from dcc here, thank you. the mediafire wasnt working for me. you're welcome to shut it down.
[21:53] <Mimi> Hope you have a good time!
[21:53] <myk_robinson> have a good evening, all. Good talking with you
[21:54] <gilster> hello all has the wireless issue been fixed?
[21:55] <gilster> ??
[21:56] <virtuelv> gilster: yes
[21:56] <EruditeHermit> so anybody using intrepid know if anything major is broken?
[21:56] <gilster> virtuelv: hello
[21:56] <gilster> virtuelv: is the wireless crash of earlier upgrade fixed
[21:57] <virtuelv> gilster: yes, as in "the wireless stuff that broke a few hours ago, is now fixed again, just do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:57] <virtuelv> it didn't come back up for me until I did an apt-get autoremove after that, though
[21:57] <gilster> virtuelv: is there a way i can fix it without updating.?
[21:58] <gilster> i dont have any LAN connectivity
[21:58] <LogicalDash> gilster: I'm on here because I reverted to my older kernel, by choosing it from the GRUB boot menu
[22:00] <gilster> LogicalDash:Did that fix the wireless issue
[22:00] <virtuelv> gilster: fetch the linux-firmware-1.1
[22:00] <virtuelv> gilster: fetch the linux-firmware_1.1_all.deb, put it on a USB stick and install it
[22:00] <LogicalDash> gilster: Yes, I can connect to wireless using my older kernel (the kernel from Hardy)
[22:00] <gilster> virtuelv: great stuff. Thanks. What is that?
[22:01] <virtuelv> LogicalDash: I couldn't with the 2.6.27-6 kernel which was the only older kernel on my system
[22:01] <LogicalDash> Well, yes, it only works if you actually have another kernel
[22:01] <virtuelv> gilster: Description: Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
[22:01] <virtuelv>  This package provides firmware used by Linux kernel drivers.
[22:01] <gilster> great
[22:01] <virtuelv> Replaces: atmel-firmware, linux-restricted-common
[22:01] <gilster> thanks
[22:02] <gilster> what was the problem anyways?
[22:02] <LogicalDash> ummm, bad firmware I'd guess
[22:02] <gilster> i was wandering if was only with specific usb wifi adapters.
[22:02] <gilster> or all drivers?
[22:02] <LogicalDash> Well, it did affect my onboard wireless
[22:05] <gilster> ahhh...
[22:05] <gilster> good to know
[22:06] <gilster> virtuelv: where will i find that deb file
[22:08] <gilster> virtuelv: you here?
[22:09] <Technoviking> anyone else getting bad redraws in the gnome-terminal window with nvidia 177.80 in Intrepid?
[22:10] <blankthemuffin> Yes Technoviking.
[22:10] <blankthemuffin> I get it with the whole screen though.
[22:10] <blankthemuffin> Just every now and then bits get "stuck", like a line will be cut off. Installing updated xorg however.
[22:11] <eklof> Hi all.
[22:11] <eklof> What repos is the primary one?
[22:11] <eklof> I got the wireless problem after some updates. And a fix seem to have uploaded but not reached my mirror yet I suppose.
[22:12] <eklof> I was thinking about changing repos to get my wireless up and running :)
[22:17] <tretle__> will flash 10 make it into intrepid
[22:17] <tretle__> ?
[22:20] <dli> I don't need all xorg video drivers, how to clean up?
[22:25] <Administrator> I dont know if this has been a feature since 8.04, but my xorg.conf is empty. Where can I add custom resolutions?
[22:25] <morpholology> Is there any way to automatically refuse connections from a certain IP if a remote login fails a certain number of times?
[22:26]  * morpholology has been looking at /var/logauth.log and does not like what he sees
[22:26] <zack__> sorry changed my name from admin, lol
[22:27] <dli> morpholology, try fail2ban: apt-get install fail2ban
[22:27] <morpholology> dli: many thanks
[22:32] <zack__> Is there a way to add custom resolutions to ibex? My xorg.conf is empty
[22:36] <milos_> does anybody have problems with bluetooth? It worked great until last few updates on my pc
[22:37] <milos_> zack__, just add custom resolutions to xorg.conf. It should work.
[22:38] <CQ> is the e1000e issue fixed in teh current kernels?
[22:39] <zack__> mlos, it is basically empty but ill give it a shot.
[22:40] <milos_> zack__, yeah I know, just find simple xorg.conf on net and see how it goes.
[22:47] <zack__> i jus added the sub section of display depth with the resolutions and it worked. thanks milos
[22:50] <maccam-desktop1> is openoffice 3.0 going to make it into intrepid?
[22:50] <CQ> if not it'll be in the backports soon enough...
[22:52] <zack__> milos, it seems my gdm is using the lowest resolution now. i rebooted to see if it fixes it but if not what should i do?
[22:53] <CQ> otherwise check if debian has a package in experimental ... .debs are up on the OOO website
[22:53] <CQ> as well
[22:54] <crashsystems> Is there a gui for the encrypted private directory feature?
[23:02] <milos_> zack__, I don't know how to change gdm resolution.
[23:05] <zack__> milos, i figured it out i just re arragned the order the resolutions were listed in the xorg.conf
[23:05] <dli> milos_, the the default resolution for GDM, then, use xrandr to change session to another
[23:05] <dli> milos_, if you want gdm to be different
[23:06] <milos_> ok
[23:06] <amrik> so when i install new nvidia drivers from repository i get rpmdb: lock_downgrade: Lock is no longer valid
[23:17] <myk_robinson> what the heck does all this mean:    http://pastebin.com/m3b7778d6
[23:17] <myk_robinson> end of a dmesg on my system
[23:22] <myk_robinson> KRF: got the VirtualBox issue resolved from last night. Quite honestly, it was a matter of RTFM. answer was right there
[23:28] <jyro> Was there an update to the network manager today?  I can no longer connect to wireless with iwlagn and there is not a list of networks in the network monitor applet.
[23:28] <gil_> hello
[23:28] <gil_> i need help
[23:29] <amrik> jyro: yes i think some network-manager updates went out. i cringe every time i see that happen
[23:30] <jyro> Well it's been working wonderfully until now...  I can't even connect by manually putting in the network info.
[23:33] <gil_> i need help with wirelss fix
[23:38] <myk_robinson> any of you guys got Intel 3945abg?
[23:38] <Technoviking> myk_robinson: I do
[23:38] <myk_robinson> Just installed the drivers from http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download because they worked flawlessly in 8.04, but apparently not in 8.10
[23:38] <myk_robinson> Technoviking: how is yours working?
[23:39] <myk_robinson> Mine will connect fine, but "hiccups" every so often, and has to reconnect
[23:39] <Technoviking> myk_robinson: after upgrades since Monday fanatastic
[23:39] <myk_robinson> Same thing happened in Hardy, but the aforementioned drivers fix it..
[23:39] <gil_> i am trying to fix the wireless problems from earlier. How can i do this without  having connectivity
[23:39] <myk_robinson> hmmm.   Typically when it happens, my touchpad also skips for a few seconds
[23:40] <gil_> someone here told me to download firmware deb file. not sure where.
[23:40] <myk_robinson> the firmware was included in an earlier update today
[23:40] <Technoviking> There is a new linux-firmware which you should be able to get from apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:40] <gil_> myk_robinson: how can i get this firmware separately.
[23:41] <myk_robinson> sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[23:41] <gil_> the affected machine only has wireless. So i cant apt-get anything
[23:41] <myk_robinson> oh. Hang on, i will send it to you
[23:41] <gil_> i wan to download the firmware alone
[23:41] <gil_> cool
[23:41] <myk_robinson> you got mail
[23:42] <myk_robinson> so long as my wifi holds up :)
[23:42] <myk_robinson> looks like you got it there
[23:43] <gil_> thanks a million man
[23:43] <myk_robinson> no prob
[23:43] <gil_> i was searching for that deb earlier could not find it.
[23:44] <gil_> what was the problem anyways?
[23:44] <myk_robinson> i pulled it from /var/cache/apt/archive
[23:44] <gil_> good stuff
[23:44] <myk_robinson> an earlier update removed all firmware and changed the location of the firmware
[23:44] <gil_> yikes
[23:44] <myk_robinson> then, a later update replaced the firmware
[23:44] <gil_> how did they expect people to update if it borked their wireless card?
[23:44] <myk_robinson> all within the span of a few hours, so if you are running updates throughout the day, you may catch a "work in progress"
[23:45] <myk_robinson> fortunately, i have ehternet to fall back on
[23:45] <myk_robinson> keep in mind, this is a beta
[23:45] <gil_> yes indeed
[23:45] <gil_> oh i am familiar with betas
[23:45] <gil_> thanks for the deb file.
[23:46] <myk_robinson> i had the same problem earlier :)
[23:46] <gil_> i have several laptops here that i cant take to the router. but the desktop on the 3rd floor is far from router and i can only use the wireless with it. (donthave 75 feet of cable)
[23:47] <gil_> i meant to say.....
[23:47] <gil_> that i have several laptops here that were affected but i did the update via LAN at the router.
[23:47] <myk_robinson> looking forward to the finished product.
[23:47] <gil_> my PC is on the first floor routher is on third.
[23:47] <myk_robinson> Every update, i hold my breath and wait to see what gets hosed this time
[23:48] <myk_robinson> gil_: you at work, or you live in a 3 story home?
[23:48] <gil_> yes me too. i am very happy with intrepid so far
[23:48] <gil_> i live in a 3 story house
[23:48] <myk_robinson> WOW!
[23:49] <gil_> router is on the 3rd floor sadly but truly
[23:49] <myk_robinson> you in the US?
[23:49] <gil_> canada
[23:49] <myk_robinson> cool.
[23:49] <myk_robinson> send me a hockey jersey for the .deb file :)
[23:49] <gil_> st.johns, nfld
[23:49] <myk_robinson> ..or some fish or something
[23:49] <gil_> hahahah
[23:49] <myk_robinson> I'm in Tennessee, US
[23:49] <gil_> cool
[23:49] <myk_robinson> do they have "rednecks" in canada?
[23:50] <myk_robinson> I love the "RedGreen Show", you ever seen it?
[23:50] <gil_> not sunny enough ;-)
[23:50] <gil_> oh yes
[23:50] <myk_robinson> I guess this should probably be done in private chat, sorry
[23:50] <andriijas> i have a delicate problem. i have a lcd tv connected to a laptop via vga, running ubuntu ibex. the computer finds the display and i can set the resolution. the problem is that the tv doesnt find anything on the vga port. i have to connect my macbook which does some autodetection and the tv finds vga signal and then change back to the ibex laptop and it will render on the tv.
[23:50] <gil_> haha ok man
[23:50] <gil_> i got to run anywyas
[23:50] <myk_robinson> have a good evening, later
[23:50] <gil_> thanks for the deb file.
[23:50] <gil_> later
[23:51] <myk_robinson> andriijas: what video chipset?
[23:52] <myk_robinson> under System-->Preferences-->Screen Resolution  what happens when you click "Detect Displays"
[23:52] <myk_robinson> andriijas: sorry, man, i have to leave. Time for church
[23:53] <myk_robinson> hope you get it resolved.
[23:55] <andriijas> no thats the wierd thing the detect display in ubuntu doesnt help. because according to ubuntu the display IS detected
[23:55] <andriijas> its some intel x3100


[00:03] <g3> I think it is you and I only bud
[00:03] <g3> no one else in the world
[00:04] <andrew-ii> Prolly. I'm trying to figure out where the setting is to allow nodes to talk to the outside world
[00:05] <g3> What do you mean allow them to talk to the outside world?
[00:06] <andrew-ii> Basically, I have the region (and rack) controller on the office network, and all the nodes on a separate wired network, with the only line out through the region controller. It should act like a proxy, but it only does it for apt out of the box, I think.
[00:08] <g3> Oooh
[00:10] <g3> You'll need a VLAN no?
[00:11] <andrew-ii> I've got a lot of those, too. I'm vaguely following a tutorial by a Juju dev (  http://blog.naydenov.net/2015/11/deploying-openstack-on-maas-1-9-with-juju-network-setup/)
[00:11] <andrew-ii> Mainly, I'm still learning how the various configurations are set and overridden.
[00:11] <g3> You'll have one VLAN to do the management and another VLAN on the same port that allows outside access
[00:13] <andrew-ii> So maas uses squid as a proxy at /var/lib/maas/maas-proxy.conf, and I'm trying to figure out if it's allowing my node to talk to the outside world or not. Hilariously, it's handling outside DNS great, which means I have the opposite problem I had a long time ago
[00:14] <g3> Fun!
[00:14] <g3> Do you know the difference between fabric and space?
[00:15] <andrew-ii> I think a space is an arbitrary designation for grouping things together
[00:16] <andrew-ii> But a fabric should (at least semantically) be on its own physical network
[00:17] <andrew-ii> In the tutorial linked there, I set up two fabrics: `maas-external` which is just on the one NIC on the region controller going to the office, and `maas-management` which is all things connected to the maas switches
[00:19] <g3> So lets say I have two subnets: 1 management and another that is my block of IPs from the isp.
[00:19] <g3> And when I go to provision new nodes I'd like for MAAS to use the subnet from my ISP and hand out IPs to the nodes
[00:20] <g3> Is maas capable of doing so while keeping track?
[00:20] <andrew-ii> I think so
[00:22] <andrew-ii> But honestly I am not sure exactly how to go about that - I'd guess that after the node is commissioned, you would set the NIC to have its IP autoassigned
[00:44] <g3> Hmm in the rack controller, there isn't a green check next to the dhcpd
[00:46] <andrew-ii> That's a bad day - I had that happen too. There can be a few reasons for that from what little I've seen: make sure you're actually serving dhcp on a subnet (make sure there isn't a conflict), make sure there isn't a bogus subnet (like a blank IPv6 one) that is confounding it
[00:50] <g3> Hmm
[00:51] <g3> I have the interface set with a CIDR <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[00:51] <g3> with a gateway at <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:52] <andrew-ii> I assume that is also set as the region controller's IP address?
[00:52] <andrew-ii> err, and/or racks? (sometimes that needs a dpkg-reconfigure to get set after install)
[00:55] <g3> I only have one management node which is a region and a rack?
[00:55] <g3> 1 controller that is a Region and a rack controller
[00:55] <andrew-ii> Makes sense.
[00:56] <g3> And on the subnet that I have set for fabric 3 on interface em3 it says it is serving dhcp
[00:56] <g3> according to https://docs.ubuntu.com/maas/2.1/en/installconfig-subnets-dhcp#enabling-dhcp
[00:56] <g3> but ifconfig doesn't show anything on that port
[00:57] <andrew-ii> I don't think ifconfig will show that, though I don't know enough to say why
[00:58] <andrew-ii> But if the subnet says that it is serving dhcp, and if rackd shows dhcpd is running, then I'd bet it's working
[01:00] <g3> So rackd doesn't have a check next to dhcp
[01:01] <andrew-ii> ah, I was hoping that got fixed for you; hmm, I don't really know too well how to troubleshoot that
[01:01] <g3> Hmp
[01:01] <andrew-ii> I'd guess there's a conflict preventing it from starting
[01:01] <g3> The thing is there is nothing else on that machine
[01:01] <andrew-ii> perhaps check /var/log/maas/?
[01:01] <g3> it has a static route on a different port
[01:02] <g3> 2017-01-25 23:42:43 maasserver.dhcp: [info] Successfully configured DHCPv4 on rack controller 'ncgqxy'.
[01:03] <andrew-ii> I guess I'm out of my depth on that
[01:06] <g3> shame
[01:07] <andrew-ii> Much so. I really wish I understood better how that particular bit works
[01:07] <g3> me to
[01:32] <g3> hmm
[01:32] <g3> http://askubuntu.com/questions/683733/maas-lan-cable-wiring-topology-for-dhcp?rq=1
[01:32] <g3> did you set your gateway in the subnet to the upstream router perhaps?
[01:33] <andrew-ii> I don't think so... If I do a wget on my earlier pastebin ( `wget http://pastebin.com/raw/FkMnpY8f` ) it will correctly resolve the ip of it, but it will never connect
[01:33] <andrew-ii> from a deployed node, that is
[01:34] <g3> hmp
[01:34] <andrew-ii> The maas controller is gold
[01:35] <andrew-ii> If I set the proxy to my maas controller via `export http_proxy=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/`, then I get a 403 forbidden. So it's like the built-in maas proxy could work, but it rejects everything
[01:36] <g3> http://www.openstackbasement.com/maas-network-hardware
[01:40] <andrew-ii> I think that may be for an ealier version of maas (maybe pre-1.8?)
[01:40] <andrew-ii> Though that's close to my setup, where I just don't have that red line
[01:43] <andrew-ii> Part of the problem is the docs and a lot on the net are for pre-maas2.0, and a lot has been added and managed in maas 2, so it's hard to tell what's still meaningful
[01:45] <andrew-ii> Well, there are a lot of 2.x docs, too. But it's not quite as expansive yet
[01:50] <g3> yeah
[01:50] <g3> So I have teh checkmark next to the dhcp now
[01:50] <g3> awesome
[01:51] <g3> but there is no activity on that port
[01:51] <g3> no activity light* blinking on that port
[01:52] <andrew-ii> Might not do much until it commision/deploy?
[01:59] <g3> hmp
[01:59] <g3> on your maas server
[01:59] <g3> are you doing dhcp?
[02:00] <g3> if so do you get anything in ifconfig?
[02:00] <andrew-ii> Quite a bit of it
[02:00] <g3> ?
[02:01] <andrew-ii> The maas controller is doing dhcp on all subnets that are not on the wan or office (basically all the 10.xxx stuff)
[02:01] <g3> but on that interface port?
[02:01] <g3> like em#
[02:01] <andrew-ii> ifconfig shows that all my adapters and vlans are live
[02:01] <g3> hmp
[02:01] <g3> interesting
[02:01] <g3> mine doesn't show anything but the main network
[02:01] <andrew-ii> There's almost no traffic, since only one node is live
[02:02] <g3> I have em1 which is the network and I'm trying to set em4 to the private network
[02:02] <andrew-ii> Ah, mine's enp3s0f0 and enp3s0f1
[02:03] <g3> yeah I don't expect the names to match
[02:03] <andrew-ii> So the first is the external, and the second is the internal. Everything internal seems to be sane, though I haven't bootstrapped juju or fully configured it all yet
[02:03] <andrew-ii> Externally, I serve no dhcp
[02:03] <g3> are you serving dhcp from the region /rack controler?
[02:03] <andrew-ii> The little office router will handle that (well, the Windows domain controller, I guess)
[02:04] <g3> I see
[02:04] <g3> http://pasteboard.co/2EyTOQSDf.png
[02:04] <andrew-ii> The rack/region controller handles dhcp for everything on the maas management network
[02:04] <g3> Yeah
[02:05] <andrew-ii> One sec, snapshotting mine
[02:06] <g3> also if you could pastebin your cat /var/lib/maas/dhcpd.conf ?
[02:07] <andrew-ii> http://pasteboard.co/qxGFsGdut.png
[02:08] <andrew-ii> http://pasteboard.co/qxHrk6m9K.png
[02:09] <andrew-ii> http://pastebin.com/raw/qYDuH0c1 < cat /var/lib/maas/dhcpd.conf
[02:12] <andrew-ii> Note that I only configured names. The maas setup automatically filled in all the stuff from my /etc/network/interfaces file
[02:12] <g3> yeah
[02:12] <g3> it basically matches mine
[02:12] <g3> with more vlans
[02:13] <andrew-ii> I also have to ifup the vlans after startup, because the interfaces file apparently trips overitself if you do it all there at once
[02:25] <g3> what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[02:26] <g3> did you have to configure the interface there?
[02:26] <g3> I got the activity light to come on by setting it in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:26] <g3> but if I set it to dhcp it doesn't come up
[02:26] <andrew-ii> I've configured them all there
[02:26] <g3> I seee
[02:27] <andrew-ii> http://pastebin.com/raw/BVCfWxan
[02:28] <andrew-ii> I'm just noticing that there's some iptables stuff there. I dunno if that's not needed anymore; the EC2 redirect was a response to what I think was a bug in the setup, but again, I may need to try it without the rules
[02:29] <andrew-ii> Note that I commented out the vlan auto enp... lines, since it breaks the setup. I have to ifup the vlans after the network is up
[02:31] <g3> OH NICE
[02:31] <g3> *does a dance*
[02:31] <andrew-ii> Make sense?
[02:31] <g3> Though I have two of the rackcontrollers popping up
[02:31] <g3> on <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:31] <g3> but the other machine plugged in is popping up on the dhcp
[02:32] <andrew-ii> Oh, good!
[02:32] <g3> I don't understand the two, but hey
[02:32] <g3> Now I see the other machine in the subnet
[02:33] <andrew-ii> Seems like something that could at least be troubleshot, right?
[02:34] <g3> how do I now commission?
[02:34] <g3> hmm
[02:37] <g3> It isn't showing up in device discovery
[02:38] <andrew-ii> I've added machines manually; I have a text file with all the machine's MAC addresses and the static IPs I set for the IPMI setup, and then just commision manually
[02:38] <andrew-ii> I think it will eventually discover the machine, but that's a new feature that I just haven't gotten to trying yet
[02:42] <andrew-ii> Alright, giving up for the day. Good luck!
[02:43] <g3> thanks buddy
[02:50] <g3> now it is stuck on commisioning
[02:50] <g3> It can reboot
[03:12] <g3> Hmm now when I went to commision it did it's PXE thing. THen a new machine popped up
[03:12] <g3> and then I was able to commission that one?
[03:12] <g3> acquire
[03:16] <pmatulis> g3, what are you trying to do? the backscroll is too long
[03:21] <g3> No worries
[03:21] <g3> I finally commisioned and acquired
[03:22] <g3> when I went to deploy
[03:22] <g3> Stdout: "Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label
[03:22] <g3> Installation failed with exception: Unexpected error while running command.
[03:22] <g3> Command: ['curtin', 'block-meta', 'custom']
[03:22] <g3> Exit code: 3
[03:22] <g3> Reason: -
[03:22] <g3> Stdout: "Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label\nError: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label\nno disk with serial 'PHFT6401010P800CGN' found\n"
[03:22] <g3> Most of the backscroll is myself and andrew-ii trying to get my dhcp to work
[03:23] <g3> I think I sorted that out.
[03:23] <g3> Though the machine wasn't showing up in the device discovery, so I manually added a node.
[03:23] <g3> using the IPMI 2.0 I was able to reboot / commission
[03:24] <g3> but the node that I created hung on commisioning, while a new node popped up with a random name (warm-spider.maas)
[03:24] <g3> I was able to then commission that node (which was the one that I created...as that is the only machine plugged in)
[03:24] <g3> and it had the same DHCP ip of x.x.x.101
[03:25] <g3> then after it commisioned I acquired it, setup a RAID1 on sda&sdb
[03:25] <g3> went to deploy
[03:25] <g3> and it failed
[03:27] <g3> So now I released it and am currently erasing the disks
[03:29] <pmatulis> you don't need to acquire. that's really just used if a user wants to reserve a node. maas will never automatically use a node that is acquired
[03:33] <g3> ok so correct path is to commision then deploy?
[03:34] <pmatulis> g3, yes. curious. did you start by reading the maas documentation?
[03:35] <g3> I did
[03:35] <g3> but frankly, it seems a little spotty
[03:35] <pmatulis> this gives a runthrough: https://docs.ubuntu.com/maas/2.1/en/installconfig-checklist
[03:35] <pmatulis> subheadings: 'Commission a node', then 'Deploy a node'
[03:36] <g3> Okay
[03:36] <g3> so what does acquiring actually do?
[03:37] <g3> And under DHCP I had to setup the MAAS interface (em4 for instance) under /etc/network/interfaces as a static route
[03:37] <g3> then in MAAS give that interface a static route as well
[03:39] <pmatulis> g3, re acquire, i pretty much told you
[03:39] <pmatulis> but you can read here: https://docs.ubuntu.com/maas/2.1/en/intro-concepts
[03:39] <pmatulis> (see 'acquire' action and 'allocated' status)
[03:40] <g3> Okay
[03:40] <g3> thanks
[03:40] <g3> Where did the random name come from?
[03:40] <g3> warm-spider
[03:41] <pmatulis> when used with a service orchestration tool, such as Juju, acquire happens under the hood
[03:41] <pmatulis> g3, from some python library probably
[03:41] <pmatulis> (random names)
[03:41] <g3> fair enough
[03:42] <pmatulis> g3, i have never had to set up a static route in MAAS yet. why did you do that?
[03:43] <g3> Because nothing was coming up?
[03:43] <g3> I went to the VLAN and setup DHCP
[03:43] <g3> went to the interface on the region / rack controller and set it to DHCP
[03:44] <g3> but nothing was showing up in mass, with ifconfig and the activity light wasn't blinking on the port
[03:44] <g3> Only once I setup static routes for MAAS did the green check next to DHCPD on the region/rack controller page appear
[03:45] <g3> And only then did the other machine I am attempting to deploy show up in the node list
[03:45] <pmatulis> you set the interface on the region/rack controller to 'DHCP'?
[03:45] <g3> I did, but nothing was happening
[03:46] <g3> I can remove the static from /etc/network/interfaces and give it a go again
[03:46] <pmatulis> that's not how you enable DHCP
[03:47] <pmatulis> i recommend you read the docs: https://docs.ubuntu.com/maas/2.1/en/installconfig-subnets-dhcp
[03:49] <pmatulis> anyway, i need to go to bed. please read the docs. if you find them lacking kindly open a bug. there is a link at the bottom of the menu (left pane)
[03:49] <g3> I have
[03:49] <g3> and I've done that
[03:49] <g3> I've now removed the route from /etc/network/interfaces
[03:49] <g3> in the vlan on the <IP_ADDRESS>/24 subnet I have enabled the dhcp
[03:49] <g3> x.x.x.101-x.x.x.254
[03:50] <g3> in the region/rack controller I have the em4 interface set to dhcp
[03:50] <g3> but now the check mark next to the dhcpd is gone and there is no activity on the port again
[03:53] <g3> http://pasteboard.co/qzuzQs9d1.png
[03:53] <ihih> hi
[03:54] <g3> http://pasteboard.co/qzv9izzdK.png
[03:54] <ihih> help configuring maas?
[03:54] <g3> http://pasteboard.co/qzvF1IMh5.png
[03:54] <g3> help me?
[03:55] <ihih> how?
[03:55] <g3> Well first I can't get the dhcp to work unless I set a static in MAAS and in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:56] <ihih> is there another dhcp server on the same network?
[03:57] <g3> No
[03:57] <g3> This side of the network is all static routes as it is our public IP block
[03:57] <g3> and I am setting up MAAS on a private OOB network
[03:59] <ihih> cool
[03:59] <ihih> its supposed to be static
[04:00] <g3> Hmm okay
[04:00] <g3> pmatulis said otherwise, but that is the only way I've been able to get it to work
[04:01] <g3> okay lets say it is working
[04:01] <g3> It wasn't discoverying the device
[04:01] <g3> So I added it manually and commisioned the nod
[04:01] <g3> e
[04:01] <g3> it then hung at commissioning forever, while a new node of random name popped up
[04:01] <g3> with the correct cpu, mem, drives, ect..
[04:02] <g3> I commissioned that one. then acquired. then deployed with a raid1
[04:02] <ihih> yup that happens
[04:02] <g3> which part?
[04:02] <g3> random name?
[04:02] <ihih> the entire thing
[04:02] <g3> okay
[04:02] <g3> then it failed though
[04:03] <ihih> commissioning failed?
[04:03] <g3> deploy
[04:03] <ihih> oh
[04:03] <g3> Stdout: "Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label\nError: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label\nno disk with
[04:03] <g3>             serial 'PHFT6401010P800CGN' found\n
[04:04] <ihih> well, I tried to configure it for openstack
[04:04] <ihih> and juju bootstrap failed
[04:05] <g3> And how hmp
[04:08] <ihih> im guessing youre stuck where i am
[04:08] <ihih> nodes arent properly configured
[04:08] <ihih> how have you networked the nodes?
[04:09] <g3> I currently only have the node connected to the OOB network
[04:10] <g3> I did see lots of 401's popping up
[04:12] <ihih> is your region controller node configured to access the internet
[04:13] <g3> It is, but I don't have that subnet forwarded to the nodes
[04:14] <ihih> is your network configured to something like this? - www.openstackbasement.com/maas-network-hardware/openstack%20network.png?attredirects=0
[04:15] <g3> minus the 5port dumb switch yes
[04:16] <ihih> have you updated the boot images?
[04:16] <g3> I only pulled them down maybe 4 hours ago
[04:17] <ihih> have you tried recommissioning the same node again?
[04:17] <g3> I am doing it right now
[04:17] <g3> without the raid1
[04:19] <ihih> okay
[04:21] <g3> THough now it appears that the machine is off and it is stuck at deploying
[04:22] <ihih> Give it some time
[04:22] <ihih> say 10-15 min
[04:22] <ihih> which maas version are you using?
[04:23] <g3> 2.1
[04:23] <g3> Okay well I'll head home then check on it in 30 min or so
[04:24] <ihih> 2.1 out? updating maas only gets me 1.9
[04:24] <g3> are you on 14.4?
[04:24] <g3> 14.04
[04:25] <g3> https://docs.ubuntu.com/maas/2.1/en/installconfig-upgrade-to-2
[04:25] <ihih> yep
[04:25] <g3> states you need xenial for 2.0+
[04:25] <ihih> right
[04:25] <g3> for 2.0 and above**
[04:27] <ihih> is your node configured to wake on lan?
[04:57] <ioi_> '
[05:40] <g3> hello
[05:45] <g3> so I uploaded a sshkey to the MAAS admin account. Deployed a server, but I can't access it?
[05:45] <g3> ssh ubuntu@<node> asks for a pass
[05:54] <g3> Oh it gave it a ip from the reserved block. got it.
[08:43] <mup> Bug #1656717 opened: Juju -> MAAS [2.2+] API integration needs to account for null spaces <juju:Triaged> <MAAS:In Progress by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1656717>
[08:43] <mup> Bug #1643001 changed: Moonshot iLO4 'Power HW address' prevent ipmitool from working <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1643001>
[12:30] <mup> Bug #1659538 opened: juju deploy fails, unable to contact charm store <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659538>
[17:09] <mup> Bug #1657491 changed: Several IPs assigned to the same iface in the DB due to 'free' leases <sts> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1657491>
[17:09] <mup> Bug #1659607 opened: [2.1.3] Can't link subnet with link_up from maas API as in WebUI- Cannot configure interface to link up (with no IP address) while other links are already configured. <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659607>
[17:42] <mup> Bug #1659613 opened: [Map subnet] When the user takes action Map subnet, (s)he gets a confirmation message including the link to the dashboard, while the mapping has not started yet and they have to click the "Go" button <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659613>
[19:58] <mup> Bug #1659642 opened: maas manpage? <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659642>
[20:10] <mup> Bug #1659642 changed: maas manpage? <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659642>
[20:16] <mup> Bug #1659642 opened: maas manpage? <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659642>
[22:31] <mup> Bug #1659672 opened: [2.1, rev5670] Can't release machines previously deployed/failed deployment/or newly deployed after upgrade to latest trunk <oil> <oil-2.0> <MAAS:Confirmed for ltrager> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659672>
[23:10] <Teranet> Question where do I report a BUG ???
[23:53] <pmatulis> Teranet, https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+filebug
[23:55] <Teranet> Thank you


[05:43] <mattyw> morning folks, I get the following error in the tip of juju/errors - is it just me or can someone else see it?
[05:43] <mattyw> ^^ not gccgo
[05:44] <anastasiamac> mattyw: what error?
[05:44] <mattyw> anastasiamac, ah - dammit - sorry forgot to past the paste :/
[05:44] <mattyw> anastasiamac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10085832/
[05:44] <mattyw> anastasiamac, sorry - it's still early (1:44pm)
[05:48] <anastasiamac> mattyw: m running with juju/errors that juju/juju depended on yesterday
[05:48] <anastasiamac> mattyw: and get
[05:48] <anastasiamac> mattyw: ok      github.com/juju/errors  0.008s
[05:49] <mattyw> anastasiamac, what version of go?
[05:49] <mattyw> anastasiamac, (starting to clutch at straws now :) )
[05:50] <anastasiamac> mattyw: go version go1.2.1 linux/amd64
[05:51] <mattyw> anastasiamac, ok - I might try running an earlier version and see what happens, it's not blocking me,  just an observation
[05:51] <mattyw> I'll keep an eye on it though
[05:51] <anastasiamac> :D
[09:41] <mattyw> davecheney, done https://github.com/juju/errors/pull/16
[10:08] <axw> dimitern: nice logo :)
[10:08] <dimitern> axw, :) it took 15m
[10:08] <dimitern> axw, yeah I think goose deserves a logo now heh
[10:10] <axw> katco: FYI, https://github.com/go-goose/goose
[10:10] <axw> dimitern: katco has some Cinder support in the works
[10:11] <axw> dimitern: and what she's doing is auto-generating bindings off WADL provided by OpenStack. may be useful to use more generally
[10:13] <dimitern> axw, oh, ok - I'll sync up with her next week then
[10:13] <dimitern> my current plan is to just migrate existing trunk to GH and change imports to use gopkg.in
[10:18] <dimitern> axw, katco ^^
[10:18] <axw> dimitern: no worries, that's what I expected
[10:19] <dimitern> axw, ok, cheers
[10:19] <dimitern> we'll use gated merges as well with the bot like for juju/juju
[10:20] <axw> dimitern: not using Travis?
[10:24] <dimitern> axw, nope, I really don't want to, if it can be avoided
[10:24] <axw> okey dokey
[10:24] <dimitern> axw, our merge bot does a more consistent job I think
[10:25] <dimitern> (a bit of handwavyiness here ofc.. :)
[10:25] <axw> dimitern: I'm happy with that, was just wondering if this would be handled the same as go-amz
[10:30] <dimitern> axw, I got bashed a bit for taking this decision frankly (travis over our bot) and want to do it "properly" this time :)
[10:30] <axw> dimitern: I see :)
[12:00] <frankban> dimitern: morning, I was looking at this regression we have on the GUI: bug 1418433
[12:00] <mup> Bug #1418433: unit information pane lost port information <juju-gui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418433>
[12:01] <frankban> dimitern: it seems that newer versions of juju-core no longer populate the unit ports in the mega-watcher. unitDoc.Ports is also marked as no-longer used, but it's still used by the mega-watcher
[12:03] <frankban> dimitern: note that this breaks API backward compatibility
[12:16] <dimitern> frankban, hey, I was afk for a while, reading back
[12:17] <dimitern> frankban, unitDoc.Ports is no longer there (or at least no longer used)
[12:18] <dimitern> frankban, but i'll have a look to recall what should've be used instead
[12:18] <frankban> dimitern: it's no longer populated, and assumed to be no longer used, but instead it's still used by the megawatcher for units
[12:18] <frankban> dimitern: and therefore it's always empty
[12:19] <frankban> dimitern: I guess we should use unit.OpenedPorts(), but that would still be a backward incompatible API change
[12:19] <frankban> dimitern: because the ports are now ranges (FromPort/ToPort) while before they were just numbers (Number)
[12:20] <dimitern> frankban, fair point
[12:21] <dimitern> frankban, we should fix this to be wire-format-compatible
[12:22] <dimitern> frankban, but by doing this we'll lose some precision - if from=to port, that's fine, if not - what?
[12:22] <frankban> dimitern: we could make the mega-watcher use an ad-hoc function that return a slightly different slice of port ranges, in which we have both the From/To and the Number, in the case From==To
[12:22] <dimitern> frankban, and the gui should definitely use unit.OpenedPorts to get them
[12:23] <dimitern> frankban, I mean .. it should expect port ranges at least
[12:23] <frankban> dimitern: the GUI uses the mega-watcher to get them, so we need to modify the mega-watcher to call OpenedPorts, and then maybe modify the result as I described
[12:23] <dimitern> frankban, ah, that's a good idea - adding PortRanges to the MW changes struct for units
[12:24] <frankban> dimitern: yes, we need a fix to the GUI too, but introducing a Number in the struct returned by the mega-watcher would make it easy for the GUI to be backward compatible, i.e. if there is a number, use that, otherwise handle the range
[12:24] <dimitern> frankban, so the Ports *can* be wrong, but PortRanges slice won't be
[12:24] <dimitern> frankban, thanks for the heads up, I'll tackle this with priority
[12:25] <frankban> dimitern: I can help if you want
[12:26] <dimitern> frankban, I need to have a chat with william first, but I'll get back to you
[12:26] <frankban> dimitern: ok thanks
[12:36] <frankban> dimitern: anyway, something like this prototype would work, with a subsequent change to the GUI: https://github.com/frankban/juju/compare/restore-megawatcher-unit-ports?expand=1
[12:41] <perrito666> hi, anyone in for a trivial text only rev https://github.com/juju/testing/pull/50 ?
[12:41] <dimitern> frankban, ok, so I'm filing a bug about it first, then I have a clear plan how to fix it in a backwards compatible way
[12:42] <dimitern> perrito666, reviewed
[12:43] <dimitern> frankban, unfortunately what you're suggesting is not sufficient, as it introduces another change into the struct format
[12:43] <perrito666> dimitern: tx done
[12:44] <frankban> dimitern: I know it's still backward incompatible, but it can be good enough for the GUI, which is your main API consumer
[12:44] <dimitern> frankban, I'd rather have a new PortRanges slice field and revert Ports to how it was, while having a piece of code that converts from=to ranges to ports and drops the rest
[12:45] <frankban> dimitern: sounds good, at that point no change is required GUI side
[12:45] <dimitern> frankban, exactly; ok, cheers
[12:46] <frankban> dimitern: thanks for looking at that, could you ping when you have a fix?
[12:50] <perrito666> dimitern: same thing for utils?
[12:54] <dimitern> perrito666, what thing?
[12:55] <perrito666> dimitern: If I where a smarter person, I would not have forgotten to paste the link
[12:55] <perrito666> https://github.com/juju/utils/pull/113
[12:55] <dimitern> perrito666, :)
[12:56] <dimitern> perrito666, lgtm
[12:56] <perrito666> ta
[12:58] <perrito666> lool, did yo see what shows in github when you say :shipit:  ?
[13:19] <dimitern> perrito666, I saw but couldn't quite get it
[13:20] <dimitern> is it a mob-frog of some sort?
[13:20] <perrito666> looks like a squirrel with a hat
[13:20] <perrito666> oh is it a frog?
[13:20] <dimitern> ha, could be :)
[13:20] <dimitern> ok, gtg - CPT sprint is officially over
[13:20] <perrito666> dimitern: cheers
[13:21] <dimitern> ta ;)
[13:24] <jw4> perrito666, dimitern: Ship It Squirrel - added to github - https://github.com/github/hubot-scripts/commit/247310f83e8f0a33230c4a2ceb5e68ca86006e18
[14:42] <perrito666> ok, las licencing fix, I promisse http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/889/
[15:45] <hazmat> anyone around with mongodb knowledge jujuer on #juju has an interesting bootstrap error http://paste.ubuntu.com/10092884/ please come over there
[19:07] <perrito666> rogpeppe: I didnt parse half of your mail
[19:08] <rogpeppe> perrito666: sorry, my fault, i've had beer :)
[19:08] <perrito666> I do agree though that we could/should move to gopkg.in yet that does not change the fact that our internal repo should branch when this happens (as I did)
[19:08] <perrito666> rogpeppe: I envy you, I had wather only
[19:08] <rogpeppe> perrito666: is wather low alcohol?
[19:09] <rogpeppe> perrito666: ( :-) )
[19:09] <perrito666> dont try wather, is terrible, produces oxidation :p
[19:09] <rogpeppe> perrito666: what do you mean by "our internal repo"?
[19:10] <perrito666> well, see, when we tag juju for release, lets say 1.21
[19:10] <perrito666> we deppend on a set of versions of ilbraries
[19:10] <perrito666> that we support ourselves
[19:11] <perrito666> like juju/utils or juju/testing
[19:11] <rogpeppe> perrito666: ok
[19:11] <perrito666> so, as development advances for new versions, these all grow in code but we keep maintaining 1.21
[19:11] <rogpeppe> perrito666: ok
[19:11] <perrito666> so at some point we will neet to backport a dependency fix to 1.21, say a licence issue
[19:12] <perrito666> and there you have two options, you add that fix on top of the dependency and make 1.21 deppend on that, with a subset of unknown/unwanted changes in the dependency
[19:12] <rogpeppe> perrito666: is that a problem?
[19:12] <perrito666> or, branch the dependency at the point that is used in 1.21 and apply changes there
[19:12] <rogpeppe> perrito666: (option 2, that is)
[19:12] <perrito666> rogpeppe: exactly that
[19:13] <rogpeppe> perrito666: the only time i can think it would be a problem is if the dep hasn't changed in a backwardly compatible way
[19:14] <perrito666> that was the case
[19:14] <rogpeppe> perrito666: right
[19:14] <rogpeppe> perrito666: that's why i'm suggesting the use of gopkg.in
[19:14] <perrito666> but if it wherent and the distance is too big, you are adding a lot of unwilling changes to a minor release which is a bit icky
[19:15] <rogpeppe> perrito666: i don't think it should be
[19:15] <rogpeppe> perrito666: backwardly compatible should be backwardly compatible
[19:15] <rogpeppe> perrito666: and maintaining forks is a significant use of time and resources
[19:16] <perrito666> well, they are called maintenance branches for something, you just add whatever fix you backport to those or close them :p
[19:16]  * perrito666 ponders having beer to stop mosquitoes from bitting him
[19:17]  * rogpeppe accepts another beer
[19:19] <rogpeppe> IPA is dead: citra
[19:19] <rogpeppe> mmm
[19:20]  * perrito666 settles for mosquito repellent
[19:26] <rogpeppe> perrito666: the more branches the more effort and the more likelihood of getting things wrong between branches, in my experience anyway.
[19:27] <perrito666> rogpeppe: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[19:27] <rogpeppe> perrito666: that looks rude to me
[19:27]  * perrito666 suspects that the fonts dont translate the message too well :(
[19:29] <perrito666> rogpeppe: its a very strange not really ascii face for "yup, what to do about it"
[19:30] <perrito666> I now realize I only know the expression in spanish :p which means it might not go past local boundaries
[19:30] <rogpeppe> perrito666: ah, it's a face! i thought it looked like legs... :)
[19:30] <perrito666> rogpeppe: the face seems to be a pretty odd unicode character
[19:31] <perrito666> rogpeppe: something that, thinking of it, most people not having a language that needs of it might not have installed
[19:31] <rogpeppe> perrito666: my suggestion is that we move to gopkg.in and always update to the latest branch of any package whenever possible
[19:31] <rogpeppe> perrito666: no, the character worked
[19:32] <perrito666> rogpeppe: even though we might be backporting a load of changes as a collateral?
[19:32] <rogpeppe> perrito666: yes
[19:32] <rogpeppe> perrito666: because we should guarantee backward compatibility
[19:32] <perrito666> its a bit like: hey I fixed the typo on the kernel, lets release a minor... and you might have a news scheduler too
[19:32] <rogpeppe> perrito666: for gopkg.in branches
[19:33] <rogpeppe> perrito666: we're talking about deps here, not core functionaliryt
[19:33] <rogpeppe> ity
[19:33] <rogpeppe> perrito666: if deps implement extra (backwardly compatible) core functionality, then why not?
[19:34] <rogpeppe> perrito666: i don't really understand what your real concern is here? increased binary size?
[19:36] <perrito666> rogpeppe: not really, I think my concern is mostly bureaucratic so I should drop it
[19:37] <rogpeppe> perrito666: if using the latest version turns out to be a problem in practice, we always have the *option* of forking it
[19:37] <perrito666> about bugs and the probability of those being added when adding code there
[19:37] <perrito666> rogpeppe: agreed there
[19:37] <perrito666> rogpeppe: btw, the icon -> http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr07/21/15/enhanced-29943-1400699227-1.jpg
[19:37] <rogpeppe> perrito666: hopefully, later versions of the same package should remove bugs, not add them...
[19:37] <rogpeppe> perrito666: :)
[19:38] <rogpeppe> perrito666: the emoticon looked correct in my IRC client
[19:38] <perrito666> rogpeppe: then your internal emoticon interpreter does not really work :p
[19:38] <rogpeppe> perrito666: yeah, i think i need an upgrade
[19:38] <perrito666> I have seen some machines render a square for some of those
[19:43] <perrito666> rogpeppe: I meant to ask in brusselles, what was the editor you where using, at first it seemed like a heaviy customized vi, but then I doubted
[19:43] <rogpeppe> perrito666: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acme_%28text_editor%29
[19:44] <rogpeppe> perrito666: this is a nice intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP1xVpMPn8M
[19:45] <rogpeppe> perrito666: there is a small but select group of people that use it :)
[19:45] <perrito666> Well Ill take you on the small :p
[19:46] <rogpeppe> perrito666: it's actually kind of the opposte of vi
[19:46] <perrito666> do you use a linux port or run plan9?
[19:46] <rogpeppe> opposite
[19:46] <rogpeppe> perrito666: i'm currently using trusty
[19:46] <perrito666> rogpeppe: the opposite of vi is emacs :p I have been in countless flamewars about the subject
[19:47] <rogpeppe> perrito666: actually the reason vi and emacs inspire flamewars is that they are similar
[19:47] <rogpeppe> perrito666: like how the worst religious wars are between related faiths
[19:47] <perrito666> I attribute the amount of flame on those to the fact that they attract people who like to flame
[19:48]  * perrito666 goes for the intro on video
[19:52] <wwitzel3> when you combine rogpeppe with beer it gives him great power and he will attempt to lure you to the darkside, don't fall for it perrito666
[19:52] <rogpeppe> lol
[19:53] <perrito666> wwitzel3: lool, well for starters that editor seems to require for me to use a mouse
[19:53] <rogpeppe> actually, lololololol
[19:53] <perrito666> which sits at more than an arms lenght from where I sit
[19:53] <perrito666> so no chance :p
[19:53] <rogpeppe> perrito666: the mouse is an instrument of the Force
[19:54] <perrito666> rogpeppe: the xbox kinect is an instrument of the force, the mouse is too far
[19:54] <rogpeppe> perrito666: but seriously, the mouse transmits more information than a keyboard
[19:54] <perrito666> rogpeppe: I could do with a touchpad :p
[19:55] <perrito666> rogpeppe: well I do have a layout set for keyboard mostly, which makes  the mouse a bit irrelevant, I only use it when using things like inkscape or gimp
[19:55] <rogpeppe> perrito666: i use it quite successfully with a thinkpad nipple
[19:56] <rogpeppe> perrito666: i know people that use it successfully with a touchpad (and some keys set up for button chording)
[19:56] <perrito666> rogpeppe: yup, I like the thinkpads thinguie, but all of my thinkpads kbs are in es_ES which sucks for coding, next trip to an english speaking country ill get a thinkpad wireless kb
[19:56] <rogpeppe> perrito666: but the mouse power is probably the essence of acme
[19:57] <rogpeppe> perrito666: just change the keyboard layout and don't look at your fingers
[19:57] <perrito666> rogpeppe: the shape is different sadly
[19:57] <rogpeppe> perrito666: orly?
[19:57] <perrito666> spanish kb lacks |\
[19:57] <perrito666> it has a large return instead
[19:58] <rogpeppe> perrito666: that's a bit rubbish
[19:58] <perrito666> I currently use an apple blueetooth kb
[19:58] <perrito666> not wonderful but light and en_US
[19:58] <rogpeppe> perrito666: well, that's a reasonable option
[19:59] <rogpeppe> perrito666: anyway, acme is the embodiment of mouse-is-faster-than-keyboard. http://www.asktog.com/TOI/toi06KeyboardVMouse1.html
[19:59] <perrito666> yup, borrowed from a friend that became a full time manager and suddenly lost need for his coding station :p
[19:59] <rogpeppe> perrito666: and it really does seem to work (for me anyway :-])
[20:00] <perrito666> I wont counter a man that can succesfully climb a palm tree while drunk
[20:01] <rogpeppe> success is in the eye of the beholder
[20:02] <perrito666> rogpeppe: well you did not fall or get arrested, that is success
[20:04] <rogpeppe> perrito666: in which case i am succeeding all the time, wa hay!
[20:05] <perrito666> I cant believe you do that often and not get arrested of fall
[20:10] <rogpeppe> perrito666: i am not falling or getting arrested
[20:12]  * rogpeppe wonders why the video is a query parameter on the youtube video url
[20:23] <perrito666> rogpeppe: it is a curious choice
[20:24] <rogpeppe> perrito666: it makes a mockery of REST :)
[20:24] <perrito666> well, they never said it was restful :p
[20:25] <rogpeppe> perrito666: and in the end, who cares?
[20:25] <perrito666> rogpeppe: well I do, I like nice urls :)
[20:26] <rogpeppe> perrito666: "?" "/" ... what's the difference in the end?


[16:11] <djszapi> ogra_: hey
[16:14] <djszapi> ogra_: I tried to clone the 12.04 installation after installing my daemon on the pandaboard, but when the replicated sdcard boots up, the system cannot realize the /dev/ttyUSB* ports with usb-serial and modems on those.
[16:14] <djszapi> What can cause this ? If I use the original sdcard, then there are no such things happening. Is there any idea I could try out for repearing this before I begin the looong replication procedure again ?
[16:17] <TypoNAM> how are you cloning the SD card?
[16:18] <djszapi> dd
[16:18] <djszapi> I am cloning the content obviously, not the physical device. ;)
[16:18] <TypoNAM> you're just dd the entire card and not just a single partition correct?
[16:18] <djszapi> the entire sdcard
[16:19] <djszapi> first onto my usb pendrive, and then back to the other
[16:19] <TypoNAM> ok, oh and you did make sure to change /etc/fstab to not use a UUID on the root partition mount, right?
[16:19] <djszapi> that is why it is so long. I have not taken an image onto my hard disk of the laptop yet.
[16:19] <djszapi> TypoNAM: I am unsure how that is related to the /dev/ttyUSB* problem.
[16:21] <TypoNAM> hmmmm
[16:21] <djszapi> what is the name of the kernel package ?
[16:21] <djszapi> I would try to reinstall the kernel.
[16:21] <djszapi> since this is a kernel task.
[16:21] <djszapi> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.c?a=arm -> this driver, precisely.
[16:22] <TypoNAM> so it boots up just fine and you can access the shell without any problems?
[16:22] <djszapi> yep
[16:22] <djszapi> I am now behind ssh over the ethernet port
[16:22] <djszapi> usb ports are not really recognized with usb-serial pl2303 cables at least.
[16:23] <djszapi> udevadm monitor& shows kernel messages while plugging those in though
[16:23] <djszapi> just no /dev/ttyUSB* created.
[16:23] <djszapi> if I use the same environment, but the original sdcard, everything is alright.
[16:23] <TypoNAM> strange
[16:23] <djszapi> indeed
[16:24] <djszapi> so what is the kernel package name ?
[16:24] <djszapi> Perhaps a simple reinstall of that fixes this very issue
[16:24] <TypoNAM> checked dmesg?
[16:24] <djszapi> about ?
[16:25] <TypoNAM> dmesg | less  and see if there's any errors reported related to driver failures
[16:25] <djszapi> dmesg checks usually end up seeing something not telling anything to an average user that can be used for repearing.
[16:27] <TypoNAM> the only things I can think of by cloning an sd card to another sd card and it failing to work is: / failed to mount due to UUID being different in fstab, or you didn't do a complete clone, meaning contents at the end of the sd card failed to copy because the end of the destination was reached
[16:28] <TypoNAM> when you used dd, did you clone to an image file on your Linux workstation then dd that image on to the sd card, or did you do a literal dd from sd card to the other sd card?
[16:36] <djszapi> TypoNAM: I do not have two sdcard slots
[16:36] <djszapi> TypoNAM: as I mentioned above, I used an interim usb pendrive for the transferring.
[16:38] <TypoNAM> eeek, ok I missed that part then
[16:38] <TypoNAM> why did you use a pendrive instead of as an image to a hard drive instead?
[16:39] <djszapi> TypoNAM: why wouldn't I ?
[16:39] <djszapi> Using hard disk space for 4 GB requires 4 GB free space on the hard disk...
[16:39] <djszapi> not to mention, way harder to carry that way to my colleagues
[16:40] <TypoNAM> here's what I do when I clone USB drives and sd/mmc cards: dd if=/dev/SrcDevice of=myClonedDrive.img bs=512K   then writing that image back on to an actual device: if=myClonedDrive.img of=/dev/DestDevice bs=512K
[16:41] <djszapi> Like I said, that is unacceptable in my case.
[16:41] <djszapi> because of two very important reasons.
[16:41] <djszapi> not to mention, usb pendrive should work anyway
[16:41] <TypoNAM> well because 4GB != 4GB on SD cards that are not exactly the same model, much less across different mediums, in this case an SD card to thumb drive
[16:42] <djszapi> huh ?
[16:43] <TypoNAM> case in point, I have two 8GB sandisk SD cards, one is actually 104MByte / 212992 blocks less than the other 8GB cause the one that has less blocks is newer than the other one.
[16:43] <djszapi> they are totally the same sdcards
[16:44] <TypoNAM> but your USB drive is not if it isn't more than those SD cards as it could be the one causing the transfer cut off point cause dd reached end of file on destination
[16:45] <djszapi> it is totally bigger
[16:45] <djszapi> 8 GB
[16:45] <djszapi> so + 4 GB ...
[16:49] <TypoNAM> insert your sd card into your Linux workstation and then do: parted --list /dev/SDcardDevice
[16:50] <TypoNAM> then remove it and insert your other sd card, and see if they're matching
[16:50] <djszapi> they do.
[16:50] <djszapi> I have checked those things after flashings.
[16:50] <djszapi> and to be honest: if they did not match, there would be way bigger issues than just /dev/ttyUSB0
[16:51] <djszapi> aye, kernel reinstall helped.
[16:51] <djszapi> nice :)
[16:52] <TypoNAM> if I were you I wouldn't be too happy, because if a reinstall fixed it then who knows what else is corrupted on that card, I wouldn't trust it what so ever
[16:53] <djszapi> wouldn't happy with a fix ? :o
[16:53] <djszapi> In fact, I am super happy about it.
[16:59] <orated> Hello! I used ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap.img image on BeagleBoard B4 and I'm not able to use any usb-storage device.http://pastebin.com/V2sdn3XM http://pastebin.com/tnD1QqDS Both the BB and USB hub are externally powered. Am I missing something?
[18:08] <orated> ppisati: Hi
[18:32] <scientes> the arm cross-compiler can't build the kernel for me anymore
[18:32] <scientes> /usr/bin/ld.gold.real: error: scripts/genksyms/parse.tab.o: incompatible target
[18:32] <scientes> i tried make clean
[18:33] <scientes> CONFIG_CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi-"
[18:47] <scientes> /usr/bin/ld.bfd.real: scripts/mod/modpost.o: Relocations in generic ELF (EM: 40)
[18:48] <scientes> i tried checking out back to 3.4 but that didn't do it eithe
[21:28] <prpplague> ogra_: horrible horrible laptop - http://www.frys.com/product/6515793?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
[21:40] <GrueMaster> prpplague: so, other than being preloaded with Windows 7, what else is wrong with it?
[21:42] <prpplague> GrueMaster: it has a quirky bios called H2O bios, and it HATES linux
[21:42] <GrueMaster> ouch
[22:13] <ojn> H2O? Heh
[22:52] <scientes> definitely not arm....