[00:13] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[00:13] <CountryfiedLinux> My pointer freezes during the live session. Gonna try the daily build.
[00:22] <MadeByCryptic> hows life?
[00:24] <pavan_yalamanchi> Hi ll
[00:27] <nyloc> Hi, I have a question I couldn't figure out via google so I hope you can help me I installed a custom repository using the instructions on this site: https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/220066768-UniFi-How-to-Install-Update-via-APT-on-Debian-or-Ubuntu
[00:28] <nyloc> And the "apt update" finishes without errors after that but if I try to install the unifi package from that repo I get a warning saying: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[00:30] <MadeByCryptic> sudo apt update?
[00:30] <nyloc> So I double checked apt-key list which shows the ubiquiti key. Is there a way to figure out why the authentication of the package fails? The info is a bit sparse to hunt down the error for me.
[00:30] <nyloc> MadeByCryptic: sure as I said that works fine
[00:31] <nyloc> .... Ign:5 http://dl.ubnt.com/unifi/debian unifi5 InRelease
[00:31] <nyloc> Hit:6 http://dl.ubnt.com/unifi/debian unifi5 Release
[00:31] <nyloc> Get:7 http://dl.ubnt.com/unifi/debian unifi5 Release.gpg [490 B]
[00:31] <nyloc> Fetched 307 kB in 1s (265 kB/s)  ..... Reading package lists... Done
[00:34] <nyloc> I manually downloaded the .deb file and compared the checksums which are ok, I'm open for any suggestions what to do now as I don't want to install as long as the warning is present.
[00:39] <asdfasdf> connect irc.highway.net
[00:39] <asdfasdf> wtf
[00:42] <nyloc> ok, got to go for now but I will idle so if anyone has an idea just highlight me I will read it in a few hours
[00:44] <weust> hello
[00:45] <weust> I am looking for the location of the MariaDB 10.1 example config files. Anyone know where they should be located? All the places where they should be located, don´t exist...
[00:50] <texla> I want to transfer files and etc from my laptop using wifi to my desktop on hardwire...which program should I use ?
[00:50] <weust> hmm, apt-file search doesn´t even those the example files for mariadb installed or available in packages?
[00:51] <texla> Both computers running Ubuntu-16.04
[00:51] <weust> texla, same subnet?
[00:52] <texla> weust, yes
[00:52] <Bashing-om> texla: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1)
[00:53] <texla> Bashing-om, Thanks thought were out smoking !!!
[00:54] <Bashing-om> texla: Only as the ocassion demands :)
[00:59] <Ionic> are the live images rebuilt periodicall?
[00:59] <Ionic> s/?$/y?/
[01:02] <OerHeks> Ionic, only the development versions, and point releases of LTS versions
[01:05] <Ionic> OerHeks: that's unfortunate :/
[01:06] <Ionic> sometimes changes to the kernel help immensely even in the live system
[01:06] <Ionic> that one for instance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1646574
[01:07] <OerHeks> Ionic, if hardware is released *after* the ubuntu version, no wonder..
[01:07] <OerHeks> newest of the newest take some time to be fully implemented
[01:09] <Ionic> understandable, but my point is that the kernel package has been fixed and released to -updates, which would also help immensely on the live system
[01:09] <Ionic> or more like, it's not as if the live system's kernel could be updated manually :)
[01:09] <OerHeks> meh, invalid, you would need internet for the use of ubuntu.
[01:09] <Ionic> (though technically speaking, that *might* even be possible with kexec)
[01:11] <kangaroo72> Hello, I have connected a Windows-NTFS-HDD via USB/SATA-Connector to Ubuntu ... mount is okay, I can access data. But can I check, if the drive is okay without deleting data?
[01:11] <Ionic> it's difficult to even install the base system if you cannot see the cursor. not impossible, but also frustrating and not straight-forward
[01:11] <OerHeks> kangaroo72, go into 'disks' and see the smart tool
[01:11] <kangaroo72> sorry (console only)
[01:12] <OerHeks> Ionic, agian: newest of the newest take some time to be fully implemented
[01:12] <kangaroo72> well I can connect via vnc too - ok
[01:12] <Ionic> kangaroo72: then use smartctl, although this may not work
[01:12] <kangaroo72> I have openbox as gui
[01:12] <kangaroo72> whats the command of the "smart tool"?
[01:12] <Ionic> (not because smartctl wouldn't work as such, but because some USB controllers do not forward SMART information)
[01:13] <acheron-a> well at least things are in the process of being fixed
[01:13] <acheron-a> some distros dont even care
[01:14] <kangaroo72> @OerHeks what exactly is the "smart tool"? I have gui, but I have to call it via terminal
[01:15] <OerHeks> kangaroo72, that is on gnome versions, i don't know about openbox
[01:15] <acheron-a> over at *int there is a grub2 install failure going on and they are too busy working on cosmetic changes to be bothered to look into it
[01:15] <kangaroo72> hmm
[01:16] <Bashing-om> kangaroo72: check disk health: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" then "sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda ( where sda is the real target ) .
[01:17] <weust> Seems I am not the only one http://askubuntu.com/questions/822811/ubuntu-16-04-mariadb-no-sample-configurations
[01:18] <sere> i have 11 invalid ip addresses.. how can i find out why?
[01:20] <kangaroo72> Bashing-om: Thanks ... what 'bout this report ...? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24205308/
[01:21] <kangaroo72> is a long test possible (over night)?
[01:23] <OerHeks> kangaroo72, that -t test takes a few minuts
[01:23] <Bashing-om> kangaroo72: So far so good / old drive still chugg'n along . Long test : sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda .
[01:24] <kangaroo72> thanks - will run this overnight - good night
[01:26] <kangaroo72> [01:26] <kangaroo72> what means this?
[01:26] <kangaroo72> already running?
[01:26] <cfhowlett> you have a test in progress.  let it finish
[01:26] <kangaroo72> where comes the output??
[01:28] <kangaroo72> when it's ready, how can I read the result of it?
[01:28] <OerHeks> kangaroo72, on the screen and in the log
[01:28] <kangaroo72> syslog?
[01:30] <kangaroo72> ah - smartctl -l
[01:30] <OerHeks> yes, i think so
[01:30] <kangaroo72> ok :-)
[01:35] <kangaroo72> test ready in some hours
[01:35] <kangaroo72> going to sleep - thanks a lot
[01:35] <cy> hello
[01:40] <Noob_> help
[01:40] <Bashing-om> !help | Noob_
[01:42] <ColdKeyboard> Can someone help me estimate how long would it take for dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/sdb on a 4TB drive?
[01:43] <OerHeks> ColdKeyboard, depends what you used on the BS=
[01:43] <Bashing-om> ColdKeyboard: On my dual core athlon system 1 hour per 100 Gigs .
[01:43] <OerHeks> block size
[01:45] <ColdKeyboard> I have i5 3rd gen on that "server". Brand new HDD was super slow with speed transfer so I run zero fill with the command above. I thing block size is 4k. I didn't specify anything
[01:45] <Ben64> it's faster if you choose a size
[01:45] <Ben64> and filling with zeros wouldn't have an effect on speed
[01:46] <ColdKeyboard> Didn't know that. It's already running now so there's not much I can do. I just wanted to see how far off it could be now, since it's been running for ~4h
[01:47] <Random832> ColdKeyboard, the default block size is 512 bytes
[01:47] <Random832> ColdKeyboard, you can send SIGUSR1 to the dd process to find out how far along it is
[01:48] <Bashing-om> ColdKeyboard: Look in the man page ' man dd ' it gives a means to get a status .
[01:48] <ColdKeyboard> But I can't do it now since it's already running?
[01:49] <Bashing-om> ColdKeyboard: One cam get a status from a alternate terminal .
[01:49] <foozb12> Salut. Apache2 appears to start on boot. Im using Lubuntu, I dont see anything in my autostart settings related to apache. Where should i be looking?
[01:50] <foozb12> I have xampp installed but I don't believe it's related to that.  I recently installed zoneminder (for security cameras) and uninstalled it. I believe it's related to that, but I have no idea where to look for apache2 autostarting
[01:54] <xar-> you don't want apache2 to autostart?
[01:57] <Noob_> Hey my question is on network file/folder sharing. What i want to do is have one public folder share where guests can read and write, and within that folder have folders locked to certain users. The idea is so if a windows machine maps the share as a drive using their login details they can access not just the public section but all folders associated with their group. So far i've managed to share the public folder no problems but e
[01:57] <Noob_> ven after mapping with the correct user details i cannot access the private folders.
[01:58] <Noob_> just to note all the private folders i've been using chmod to set their security. (thinking from a windows mind)
[01:58] <uL4m0g> hi newbie here, how can i tell the terminal which specific package is installed? like if I wanna know if- ' xsel ' package is installed what do i type in terminal
[01:59] <Noob_> oh my msg didnt finish "but i cannot access the private folders even when logged in with correct user details"
[02:01] <yubinr> uL4m0g, Try `apt list --installed`
[02:01] <Bashing-om> uL4m0g:
[02:01] <xar-> uL4m0g: dpkg -l '*xsel*' | grep ii
[02:01] <Bashing-om> uL4m0g: ' dpkg -l <package> ' .
[02:01] <xar-> too slow!
[02:02] <Bashing-om> xar-: :) ,, Uh huh ,, but it is the thought that counts .
[02:02] <yubinr> Noob_: You want to access file on a windows box?
[02:08] <uL4m0g> yubinr, Bashing-om, xar, thanks!
[02:09] <yubinr> Many people quit and many people join...those messages are so annoying, Any one know how to get rid of that in Xchat or Quassel?
[02:09] <OerHeks> !quietirc
[02:09] <Bashing-om> uL4m0g: :) One small step on the learning curve .
[02:16] <cool_boy> why amazon EC2 doesn't ask for password on using sudo, even though there is no entry for NOPASSWD in visudo
[02:16] <noob_> was my question answered while i was gone?
[02:16] <cncr04s> have you added it near the bottom of the list
[02:16] <cncr04s> and not on the top
[02:17] <yubinr> noob_: do you want to access files in a Windows machine?
[02:18] <noob_> yes
[02:19] <yubinr> Well...I don't really know Windows that well,,,sorry
[02:19] <yubinr> noob_,
[02:21] <noob_> but in your experience with samba and file sharing is there an easy was to share folders locked to certain users
[02:21] <noob_> but also allow them access to the public folders
[02:21] <noob_> lol windows made my life too easy lol
[02:21] <histo> noob_: So you want user shares and public share as well?
[02:22] <noob_> yes so one public space and within there the private folders of users
[02:22] <sere> i have 11 invalid ip addresses.. how can i find out why? is there a log file somewhere?
[02:22] <histo> noob_: you would use the samba config to change the permissions of the shares not chmod
[02:24] <noob_> so would you be able to give me an example of what should be entered. and would these configs be placed in the main conf file or would there be a new file for this?
[02:24] <histo> !samba | noob
[02:24] <histo> !samba | noob_
[02:25] <histo> noob_: I'd imagine you could probably do it via the GUI as well via sharing options but I haven't used that in ages.
[02:25] <bazhang> he left
[02:26] <Noob_> thanks
[02:41] <maneesha> Hi - I'm trying to get help on this question -- I've listed tons of things I've tried, with no success:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/893473/manage-keyboard-backlight-on-dual-boot-system
[02:42] <maneesha> No one on askubuntu forum has responded as able to help, so I'm hoping someone here might see it and help
[02:43] <Jakeukalane_> hello, I don't know if here is the right place but I can't identificate with my main irc program. I put msg nickserv identify Jakeukalane (password) and nothing happens
[02:53] <andrzej> speake pl
[03:11] <cfhowlett> !ping
[03:11] <sarkoid> is it bad that my /boot partition is 100% full
[03:11] <cfhowlett> sarkoid, means you will be unable to apply kernel updates.  clean it up!
[03:12] <sarkoid> ah
[03:21] <user345634> How do I create a hard disk image with a FAT partition from a directory without root privileges?
[03:21] <Ben64> user345634: can you explain what you mean more precisely
[03:22] <user345634> I have a directory, let's call it my_root_dir with some files in it.
[03:23] <user345634> I want to create a 1 GB hard disk image that contains a single FAT partition that has the files in my_root_dir on the root of the partition.
[03:25] <Ben64> there probably are some really roundabout ways, but it'd be much easier if you could mount things
[03:28] <w9qbj>  /part
[03:28] <mike34729374> @user345634 why do u need that? use case?
[03:33] <user345634> I'm writing a Wii homebrew app, and need to create a virtual SD card image for use with Dolphin Emulator.
[03:33] <Aurorasaura> How would I find out if i have a upstart equiped linux diistro?
[03:33] <Ben64> user345634: so why does it need to happen without using sudo
[03:33] <cfhowlett> ubuntu uses systemd, Aurorasaura
[03:34] <Aurorasaura> Thanks cfhowlett ,
[03:34] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[03:34] <LulZsEC> how do I break into wifi guys?
[03:34] <user345634> I used sudo in the past to make an image for qemu, and typed the wrong thing and ended up destroying my main hard disk.
[03:34] <mike34729374> user345634 i presume u use ubuntu,, dolphin offers linux+win+osx
[03:35] <user345634> I'd rather be safe.
[03:35] <cfhowlett> LulZsEC, we don't do that here.
[03:35] <Ben64> user345634: so learn the right way to do it
[03:35] <LulZsEC> oh sry guyss.
[03:36] <LulZsEC> sorry i just play time linux
[03:36] <alexander_> Hello.!
[03:41] <nsk> hello
[03:47] <mike34729374> mike34729374 - are you still waiting for an answer
[03:54] <mike34729374> Question: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on an external flash drive. By mistake a windows 10 system booted with the flash drive still attached. Windows 10 might also have gone into boot up repair. Now the flash drive does not boot any more. Is Windows 10 Bootup killing Ubuntu boot info a thing?
[03:55] <histo> user345634: you can format a file
[03:55] <cfhowlett> oh yes.  windows does not co-exist peacefully and windows boot repair is rather aggressive
[03:56] <mike34729374> like "there can only be one" aggressive? ;_D
[03:56] <cfhowlett> pretty much yes
[03:56] <histo> user345634: truncate -s 1024M file.img
[03:57] <histo> user345634: then mkfs.vfat file.img
[03:57] <histo> or something similar
[03:58] <sarkoid> whew fixed my boot partition thing
[03:58] <mike34729374> so for a completely uninteresting and non obvious reason, mission critical stuff (ok....) has to be run off ubuntu on usb (omg? are $"§$"%"%Q§$). No, but has to be. So i can chalk this up to windows boot up and not generic harware or kernel failure. The winPartition will be removed in the final iteration.
[04:04] <histo> mike34729374: Most likely there is some other problem. Windows shouldn't be modifying the usb
[04:07] <mike34729374> hmmm... rest of the drive seems ok. Just had a second look though: main disk runs as a mmc and the flash drive was actually attached as sdcard and running in mmc mode. it wasn't run through an sdcard adapter at that time. Should have looked to windows as a secondary hard disk.
[04:12] <histo> mike34729374: what is the issue when you try to boot from usb now?
[04:14] <LACampbell> when I type my IP address inthe browser, I am getting "Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page" even though I have purged apache
[04:14] <LACampbell> how can I fix this?
[04:15] <mike34729374> sdcard does not show up in efi menu or as efi partition any more. If grub efi is manually selected through efi prompt or boot from file, ubuntu boots normally. I have to troubleshoot to exclude possibility of data corruption
[04:17] <histo> LACampbell: is apache still running?
[04:17] <LACampbell> histo: systemctl can't find apache or apache2
[04:18] <LACampbell> service not found.
[04:18] <LACampbell> but that page is still there, even though it should be pointing to nginxs default page
[04:18] <tatertots> LACampbell: have you rebooted since this "purging" you speak of?
[04:18] <histo> LACampbell: does netstat -tan show you are listening on 80?
[04:19] <LACampbell> tatertots: can't remember, I'll give it a try. dunno why "purging" is in quotes, the command is apt purge
[04:20] <LACampbell> histo: yeap still listening in 80
[04:20] <LACampbell> I assume that's nginx, as that service is running, but I have no clue
[04:21] <histo> LACampbell: well now nginx is listening but hosting apaches default page thats all
[04:21] <techbomber> is 128bit OS  pointless
[04:21] <histo> techbomber: wut?
[04:21] <techbomber> is 128bit OS  pointless?
[04:22] <LACampbell> histo: huh. wonder how the hell that happened
[04:23] <histo> LACampbell: no idea, what your configuration files look like or what you were doing to tell. You'd have to take a look at how nginx is configured and what site it's hosting.
[04:24] <histo> !ot | techbomber
[04:28] <mike34729374>
[04:30] <mike34729374> histo - sdcard does not show up in efi menu or as efi partition any more. If grub efi is manually selected through efi prompt or boot from file, ubuntu boots normally. I have to troubleshoot to exclude possibility of data corruption
[04:31] <mike34729374> need to run docker containers off an sdcard, i 100% positive that thaw not best practice, but has to be. Thats's why it is important.
[04:32] <histo> mike34729374: If you're booting off of usb why does the sdcard not showing up in efi prompt matter?  I'm completely confused as to what your question is now.
[04:33] <mike34729374> I am troubleshooting a possible data corruption issue. that is why failure modes are more important to me than the current status of the drive.
[04:34] <mike34729374> I understand the confusion about the startup issue and the bios
[04:34] <mike34729374> The system has three places for efi information
[04:34] <mike34729374> One: Bootup select. After the win start, the ubuntu drive does not show up any more.
[04:35] <mike34729374> Two: efi info in the efi bios, which lists all efi partition. The ubuntu does not show up there any more either.
[04:37] <histo> mike34729374: Why do you suspect data corruption?
[04:37] <mike34729374> Three: Manual efi select. This is a troubleshoot tool. It is part of the efi system and provides filesystem access. All partitions are listed there regardless of efi status. Partition access is provided, the efi bios has a filesystem driver . any file can be elected for a load and start attempt. Browsing the ubuntu partition for the grub efi and selecting it boots the system.
[04:38] <mike34729374> The problem is that i have no failure mode for a change in the efi boot sect of the ubuntu drive and i have no filure mode for the removal of the partition boot sect of the ubuntu fat boot partition.
[04:39] <histo> mike34729374: What?
[04:42] <mike34729374> Ubuntu started. Now it does not any more. Something has changed the boot sect. I would like to have that not corrupt any containers on the disk. Also, i was considering checksumming, hence the btrfs question
[04:42] <mike34729374> the sdcard does not boot by itself any more like it used. There has been a change to the sdcard.
[04:44] <histo> mike34729374: is there only one partition on the "usb" ?
[04:45] <mike34729374> nah. complete ubuntu install, 3 partitons. boot/efi (fat32), root (ext4) and swap ;) .. wanted to have a vanilla install.
[04:48] <histo> mike34729374: does the efi partition have the boot flag enabled?
[04:49] <mike34729374> will have to look. just gonna lot it and have a look in parted. I presume not bit will look.
[04:49] <histo> mike34729374: yeah look in parted
[04:50] <histo> mike34729374: parted -l | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw/?u=1
[04:54] <mike34729374> strage... brb
[04:58] <histo> mike34729374: is this a new install?  I'm wondering what your /etc/fstab looks like as well. Curious to what ubuntu thinks is it's efi partition
[04:59] <mike34729374> haha, also never would have thought that that abomination would ever boot :) ...
[05:00] <mike34729374> currently looks like a hardware issue is involved... sdcard does not work in the sd slot any more
[05:00] <histo> K.
[05:01] <mike34729374>     paretd -l
[05:01] <mike34729374> sry.. wrong keyboard...
[05:02] <histo> Sound like you need more testing to determine what happened. I would check the /etc/fstab on the USB, you may have installed grub to the efi on the c drive and windows blew that out.
[05:02] <histo> mike34729374: not c drive but hard drive....I meant.
[05:03] <mike34729374> no, i understand. that did not happen. the windows drive and controller ere deactivated during install. Ubuntu installer ver saw the windows drive
[05:03] <mike34729374> never saw the windows drive ..
[05:03] <histo> mike34729374: how long was this configuration working prior to breaking?  Or is this all new?
[05:05] <mike34729374> it worked in the sdcard slot until about the time i missed a key press to select the ubuntu as boot and windows startet. that would be about 5 reboots and 24 hours of runtime. Software on the system executed reliably.
[05:06] <mike34729374> gparted
[05:06] <mike34729374> sry.. switching keyboards all the time
[05:13] <azizLIGHT> !stats
[05:13] <azizLIGHT> !logs
[05:13] <azizLIGHT> wow! since 2004
[05:16] <mike34729374> histo
 : sdcard looks regular atm. parted shows: 1 fat32 EFI system Partition, Flags boot, esp
[05:18] <mike34729374> 2 ext 4
[05:18] <mike34729374> 3 linux swap.
[05:19] <mike34729374> no obvious changes regarding parted
 stab looks ok. too. no obvious corruption. shows mount points for root and boot
[05:33] <lc_> 有什么好看的主题
[05:33] <vince> vince2332
[05:34] <cfhowlett> !ch | lc_
[05:35] <cfhowlett> !cn | lc_
[05:35] <cfhowlett> sorry, muscle memory error
[05:37] <wolftune> help! I'm getting a Failed to start LSB: AppArmor issue on startup
[05:38] <wolftune> after a while, some process starts and counts up to 1:30 in time about something and then eventually the system boots fine
[05:38] <wolftune> but obviously, something isn't right here
[05:40] <wolftune> I see this question someone posted, but no answers: https://askubuntu.com/questions/794998/ubuntu-16-04-failed-to-start-lsb-apparmor-initialization
[05:42] <azizLIGHT> !apparmor
[05:44] <wolftune> I tried apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, that's installed…
[05:44] <wolftune> sudo apparmor_status shows 0 profiles and processes active among all the entries it lists
[05:47] <mike34729374> histo: seems like a card/controller error might be possible. Sdcard does not show up from the card slot any more, other card does and boots. Ubuntu card only shows up in usb card reader
[05:48] <wolftune> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24206508/
[05:48] <wolftune> azizLIGHT: any ideas?
[05:48] <gnubuntu> are fonts still good if you net install ubuntu
[05:49] <azizLIGHT> wolftune: oh sorry i wasnt trying to indicate i was helping or something. just checking what the bot had to say about it
[05:49] <azizLIGHT> i am a nub
[05:49] <azizLIGHT> :)
[05:49] <wolftune> thanks anyway
[05:50] <wolftune> I'm no expert, just a not-so-new end-user (since 2012)
[05:50] <gnubuntu> will there be a i386 iso for 18.04 lts
[05:50] <mike34729374> i have to have further testing. anybody have any experience with btrfs/zfs on sdcard media?
[05:50] <mike34729374> wolftune - what did you do when the error occurred?
[05:51] <wolftune> mike34729374: I've seen it several times in last few weeks, it just happens on boot (I have silent boot off so I see the messages on screen)
[05:51] <wolftune> mike34729374: at first I just waited and boot eventually happened and I just ignored it and use the system
[05:52] <wolftune> mike34729374: when I looked things up, I tried that apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu package from apt but it's still there
[05:53] <wolftune> I think I ought to want it working, and I want my startup to not be delayed by this failure, but it's not really affecting me as far as I can tell
[05:54] <gnubuntu> how do firefox updates work for lts releases
[05:54] <mike34729374> k. I usually don't run ubuntu as a guy os, and i don't have any experiences with app armor. But did you try to use a virus check lately?
[05:54] <azizLIGHT> !deb
[05:54] <mike34729374> gui os.
[05:54] <cfhowlett> my FFOX regularly updates on LTS gnubuntu
[05:57] <wolftune> well, I'm turning in. If anyone reading this has a clue about the apparmor thing, please answer the question at https://askubuntu.com/questions/794998/ubuntu-16-04-failed-to-start-lsb-apparmor-initialization
[06:00] <herpderphurr> Hey all. I recently learned the X server allows all processes running under the same user to listen in on input events. Does Mir offer security features to guard against applications listening for these events (I'm planning on running some 3rd party stuff through a container)?
[06:06] <herpderphurr> Ah, it looks like I might have found the answer to my question. Looks like the articles referenced on this post ( https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321958 ) show that Mir definitely prevents arbitrary applications from listening to input events.
[06:06] <herpderphurr> I think that opens up the possibilities of the types of desktop environments I'm looking to switch to and try out. :)
[06:08] <gnubuntu> gnome works with wayland
[06:09] <herpderphurr> I was actually thinking about trying out mate, but if I'm reading correctly, it looks like they need to finish doing some work with GTK3.
[06:09] <gnubuntu> mir is ubuntu only
[06:10] <gnubuntu> afaik only gnome is usable
[06:28] <iwan-w> Hi, what does it mean if a snap package version is "daily"?  'snap find vlc' returns name: vlc, version: daily
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> iwan-w: not sure, but i think it might mean latest
[06:35] <ESphynx> Why did an upgrade decide that I no longer need ethernet drivers?
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: ubuntu version? chipset? driver in use?
[06:36] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje: I just upgraded to 16.10
[06:36] <ESphynx> and looks like it decided I didn't need a driver for my Qualcomm Atheros anymore.
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: sudo lshw -C network doesnt show driver= version anymore?
[06:37] <ESphynx> couldn't it take a hint that if I had it installed and it used, I might need it? (or couldn't all ethernet drivers just be available as modules? surely with all those GB it's taking up this would be good use of space.)
[06:38] <cfhowlett> ESphynx, I've seen that before with broadcom.  pieces were incorporated into the driver, so no need for separate driver.
[06:38] <ESphynx> there's some disabled in there
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: does it show unclaimed or does it driver= ?
[06:39] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje: it seems to show driver=atl1c
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: so, that means driver is still in use
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: lets have a look inside your syslog, whats happening exactly?
[06:40] <ESphynx> why is it DISABLED?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> lets investigate
[06:41] <ESphynx> how can I turn the touchpad off, why isn't there an option to turn the touchpad off?
[06:41] <ESphynx> "Touchpad and mouse options" but there is not a single toucpad option such as disabled in there... 2 years later still.
[06:42] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there an equivalent of an "all programs" menu in Ubuntu like what it had before they switched to Cinnamon? I seem to only be able to search
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: also if you choose non-LTS things might be buggy at some times, want more stable? choose LTS?
[06:43] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje: I had an LTS relase that was full of bugs
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Cyber_Akuma: there is a classic meny indicator for unity if you want?
[06:43] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje: what should I be looking for in my syslog?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: anything related your atheros
[06:44] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje: nothing
[06:45] <Cyber_Akuma> lotuspsychje: How do I get to it?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> !info classicmenu-indicator | Cyber_Akuma
[06:46] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje: well the network device is working just fine after I used 'ifconfig' to set it up
[06:46] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje: but why won't it show in my list of devices, and why did the upgrade lose that?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: have you tryed a reboot or network restart yet?
[06:46] <Cyber_Akuma> Oh, so it's a package I need to install?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: did update, update anything related network?
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Cyber_Akuma: yes its an indicator package, that simulates a start menu
[06:47] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje: I upgraded from 15.04 or so
[06:48] <ESphynx> or earlier maybe
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: wily is end of life right
[06:48] <tatertots> ESphynx: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[06:48] <tatertots> ESphynx: when it's done....say so
[06:48] <ESphynx> tatertots: I don't have network yet
[06:50] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje: well how fun, if I login with 'Ubuntu (Default)' I see the Wired in the network menu; but no such thing in GNOME (Classic)
[06:50] <ESphynx> also got a crash already with compiz...
[06:51] <ESphynx> the 'network' icon and system settings looks exactly the same, it's not?
[06:51] <tatertots> ESphynx: are you able to establish a hardwired connection?
[06:52] <ESphynx> why does Wired not show when I log in with GNOME Classic?
[06:53] <alkisg> Does it work with the guest account?
[06:53] <ESphynx> it's saying 'Unmanaged' though
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> morning alkisg, you can find us in discuss :p
[06:54] <tatertots> ESphynx: so your response or answer should read "no" correct?
[06:55] <ESphynx> tatertots: well I'm going to manually set it up
[06:59] <ESphynx> maybe this -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/2901/unmanaged-network-icon-network-manangement-disabled
[06:59] <ESphynx> managed=false ...
[07:00] <tatertots> ESphynx: try answering more questions than you make up or think up....and take action and report what actions you take
[07:01] <tatertots> ESphynx: i'll ask you again
[07:01] <tatertots> ESphynx: are you able to establish a hardwired connection?
[07:01] <tatertots> ESphynx: u said you were going to manually set it up....keep quiet until you complete doing so
[07:03] <foxv71> Hi anyone
[07:03] <darthho0> Hey, my OS won't boot with a proprietary nvidia  driver... any help?
[07:03] <foxv71> darthho0: Boot to black screen?
[07:03] <cfhowlett> darthho0, does it boot without nvidia?
[07:04] <darthho0> cfhowlett: yeah...
[07:04] <darthho0> now it's not recognizing my graphics card...
[07:04] <cfhowlett> darthho0, boot it up and open a terminal
[07:04] <darthho0> after i disconnected it and rebooted
[07:04] <darthho0> it's on right now
[07:04] <foxv71> darthho0: Make sure secure boot is turned off
[07:04] <cfhowlett> darthho0, lsb_release -d       returns what?
[07:05] <toast> toast13
[07:05] <foxv71> darthho0: Then reboot should work
[07:05] <darthho0> 16.04.2 cfhowlett
[07:05] <darthho0> foxv71: how do I turn off secure boot
[07:05] <foxv71> darthho0: What brand is your computer?
[07:05] <darthho0> Custom AsRock Fatal1ty mobo
[07:06] <foxv71> darthho0: Ok hang on
[07:07] <darthho0> cfhowlett: it returns 16.04.2
[07:08] <cfhowlett> darthho0, got it.  seems that foxv71 might have a better handle than I do.  fwiw: my nvidia on a dell m3800 works fine.
[07:08] <darthho0> cfhowlett: are you using a proprietary driver?
[07:09] <cfhowlett> yep
[07:09] <darthho0> What card do you have?
[07:09] <cfhowlett> when I need it.  I usually leave it switched off
[07:09] <foxv71> darthho0: Boot into your uefi
[07:10] <darthho0> oh ok secure boot is blocking the proprietary driver from loading the computer?
[07:11] <foxv71> darthho0: Look for secure boot
[07:11] <foxv71> darthho0: Yep
[07:11] <darthho0> foxv71: uefi is just the bios right?
[07:11] <foxv71> darthho0: yes :)
[07:11] <darthho0> ok be right back
[07:16] <ESphynx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/838865/network-manager-refusing-to-manage-wired-interfaces -- seems very related to this. maybe because my partition is XFS
[07:17] <alkisg> Good morning lotuspsychje! I managed to netboot the 12.04 server and upgrade it to 16.04 the other day, by using grub-ipxe and a very remote ltsp server :)
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> !yay | alkisg
[07:18] <alkisg> :
[07:18] <ESphynx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1638842 -- wont-fix ? wth?
[07:21] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje, tatertots: FYI the fix was 'sudo touch /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf ; sudo service network-manager restart'
[07:22] <ESphynx> Why I have to do such an awkward thing after an upgrade with what had a vocation to be the friendliest Linux distro in this day and age is baffling.
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> ESphynx: want stable, choose LTS...also bugs just occur sometime..on every Os
[07:23] <cfhowlett> bugs happen.  in ALL distros and OS's
[07:23] <ESphynx> they just happen a lot more on some ;)
[07:24] <foxv71> it's free I wouldn't complain
[07:24] <uja_muntu> Bugs don't occur, they are put there for a reason.
[07:25] <tatertots> ESphynx: good deal...glad you got it done
[07:25] <ESphynx> thanks for the help guys.
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> uja_muntu: there's no evil bug conspiracy here..
[07:27] <foxv71> lotuspsychje: Bugs are there to make Microsoft feel better about their self
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> foxv71: lets not discuss that here
[07:28] <ESphynx> why does compiz keep crashing :(
[07:28] <f0ry> hi
[07:29] <foxv71> lotuspsychje: Discuss what?
[07:29] <ESphynx> and now I lost my mouse cursor...
[07:33] <xinhengyu> How can I play the game league of legends via lutris?
[07:33] <cfhowlett> xinhengyu, have you asked lutris?
[07:35] <foxv71> xinhengyu: dota 2 :P
[07:36] <foxv71> darthho0: Work?
[07:36] <darthho0> hey I'm having trouble with nvidia proprietary drivers and being able to boot into ubuntu. My graphics card ever since enabling driver isn't recognized
[07:36] <darthho0> oh nope
[07:37] <foxv71> darthho0: https://www.howtogeek.com/196740/how-to-fix-an-ubuntu-system-when-it-wont-boot/
[07:37] <darthho0> i think my cpu is better than my graphics card...
[07:37] <foxv71> Run dpkg and grub
[07:37] <darthho0> geforce gtx 220 vs 6700
[07:38] <darthho0> ok i'll look at that
[07:38] <foxv71> darthho0: gtx 220!
[07:38] <foxv71> darthho0: lol
[07:38] <darthho0> it's old... i'm buying a 1070 or 80 soon
[07:38] <foxv71> darthho0: I use a 1070 on Ubuntu works great
[07:38] <darthho0> yeah been thinking of a watercooled 1070
[07:39] <darthho0> it cost 450
[07:39] <darthho0> but then a 1080 just cost 500
[07:40] <foxv71> darthho0: Go 1080 if you can
[07:40] <darthho0> hey foxv71 i don't think this page even applies to me... because I can't even get my monitor to turn on when I have graphics card hooked up
[07:40] <darthho0> yeah that's what I'm thinking
[07:41] <darthho0> I need a new psu if I go 1080
[07:41] <foxv71> darthho0: I would just use Intel HD 530 for now
[07:42] <darthho0> yeah I think it's better then the 220
[07:42] <darthho0> lmao
[07:42] <foxv71> darthho0: I run my 1070 on a 500W
[07:42] <darthho0> yeah I have 400w
[07:43] <darthho0> how much did you pay for 1070
[07:43] <darthho0> founders edition?
[07:43] <foxv71> darthho0: No
[07:43] <foxv71> Evga SC
[07:43] <foxv71> darthho0: I think it was about $430
[07:43] <darthho0> oic nice.
[07:44] <foxv71> darthho0: Having a hard time with my 960m in my laptop 0_0
[07:46] <darthho0> running ubuntu foxv71?
[07:46] <foxv71> darthho0: Yep :P
[07:47] <foxv71> darthho0: 16.10
[07:47] <darthho0> wow, i had a netbook i had using ubuntu... never ever had problems... Now since I built this computer all I had is problems... reminds me of a alt linux distribution like slackware... kinda disgust me.
[07:48] <foxv71> darthho0: What other problems are you having?
[07:50] <darthho0> umm alot of installation problems... had to reinstall like 5 times
[07:50] <darthho0> was horrible
[07:51] <foxv71> darthho0: Not booting after install?
[07:52] <darthho0> yeah one time i switched to gdm after clean install hoping to use gnome3
[07:52] <darthho0> after that it wouldn't boot up
[07:53] <foxv71> darthho0: Did you have the gtx card in at that time?
[07:53] <darthho0> nope
[07:53] <darthho0> restarting
[07:53] <darthho0> brb
[07:55] <pabed> hello guys , I installed l2tp/ipsec client packages in ubuntu 16.04 but every time I want to connect it asks me password while I saved it .
[08:00] <foxv71> pabed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/444866/how-to-save-vpn-passwords-with-networkmanger-for-nmcli
[08:05] <pabed> foxv71: but there is nothing here sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/MyConnectionExampleName
[08:10] <yacc> Is there some way to keep make ubuntu keep the monitor configuration when I "switch off" the monitors? (I've got a laptop, that shares two displays with a desktop, and everytime I switch the displays from desktop to laptop, all the windows end up in the display that switched last)
[08:11] <pabed> foxv71: I don't know I must add http://paste.ubuntu.com/24206940/ or edit it ,
[08:14] <xxoo> anybody here?
[08:14] <baizon> xxoo: yes
[08:14] <foxv71> pabed: ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[08:15] <xxoo> hello
[08:15] <yacc> But we don't talk to this progressive IPv6 users :-P
[08:15] <baizon> xxoo: hi
[08:17] <xxoo> what's the topic about the talking room?
[08:18] <xxoo> not funny
[08:20] <minimec> yacc: What do you mean by "switch off". If you have two connectors @ the monitor and switch between the two inputs, you shouldn't have a problem. If you have to physically unplug the cable from the laptop and plug it to the desktop, then the xserver of the laptop will automatically change from dual display to one display mode and all windows land on the last available monitor.
[08:20] <pabed> foxv71: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24206965/
[08:21] <calrik> anyone know how to fix my mouse to stop it from going to sleep? I don't touch it for 1-2 seconds and it goes to sleep and I have to click buttons to get it to wake up again. Its very very annoying. Im using Ubuntu 16.10 atm but was having same issue 16.04 thought upgrade would solve the problem
[08:22] <yacc> minimec, Actually, one display uses two different HDMI inputs, and one uses VGA/DVI, and yes I switch internally on the displays and seems like my desktop (I'm not 100% sure about the laptop for other reasons) detects if the display goes from displaying DVI to VGA :(
[08:23] <yacc> minimec, I do not plug anything hardware wise, but I switch the input signal on the display, and I get the effect you described (everything ending up on the last display).
[08:23] <yacc> calrik, google "preventing usb sleep ubuntu"
[08:24] <minimec> yacc: I also have some dual plug monitors DVI/VGA. I never have problems with that. I can just switch between the two inputs.
[08:24] <foxv71> pabed: Use nano to edit your vpn config file....
[08:25] <tatertots> calrik: is it a wireless mouse that takes triple A or double A batteries/
[08:25] <tatertots> calrik: is it a wireless mouse that takes triple A or double A batteries?
[08:25] <calrik> no its a plugged in mouse
[08:25] <calrik> usb
[08:25] <yacc> calrik, I also have a small python script that I wrote to prevent USB devices going to sleep.
[08:26] <calrik> I tried a few things from google like using lsusb and getting the device id and preventing it from sleeping that way but still not working
[08:27] <calrik> its a big problem
[08:32] <yacc> minimec, I completely agree with you, as it's basically the behavior that I'm used to (years ago), but 16.04 seems to do something different.
[08:35] <foxv71> well sudo shutdown -h now
[08:35] <minimec> calrik: "I tried a few things from google"... Did you try that too? "sudo apt install powernap"... then  "sudo powernap-action --disable usb_autosuspend". Never had to do that, but looks promising...
[08:36] <calrik> yeah I have tried a few things
[08:37] <calrik> I been hesitant using info that is older then a year.
[08:37] <calrik> I have tlp instead and tried to blacklist the usb port from sleeping to no avail
[08:38] <calrik> I can try powernap but dont want it to conflict with anything 16.04 has added to the mix
[08:39] <minimec> calrik: So you don't face the problem without tlp? regarding conflicts... I guess you can just remove powernap, in case it is not working...
[08:39] <calrik> I get the problem regardless of any powermanagement software
[08:39] <calrik> Im starting to think its something brought in by one of the latest kernels
[08:41] <calrik> If it is a kernel issue using solutions that are over a year old is not going to help me
[08:42] <calrik> http://hamwaves.com/usb.autosuspend/en/index.html
[08:42] <tatertots> calrik: have you ever NOT had the symptom?
[08:42] <calrik> basically could be my mouse is not compatible with usb autosuspend
[08:43] <tatertots> calrik: does the symptom occur if you use another usb mouse instead of the one you are using now?
[08:43] <calrik> yes a brand new install with out doing a system upgrade I dont think I have the issue
[08:43] <tatertots> calrik: does the symptom occur when booted to livecd/liveusb?
[08:44] <tatertots> calrik: those are all questions you should be able to answer "definitively"...definitively in this context means a clear yes or no that contains no additional other words
[08:47] <calrik> I haven't booted from a live usb with it, Im just trying a different mouse
[08:47] <calrik> basic microsoft mouse doesnt have the issue
[08:48] <tatertots> calrik: ok...so let me ask you again...remember definitive in this context means replying with simply yes or no
[08:48] <calrik> my the mouse Im having issue with is a thermaltake sentinal gaming mouse
[08:48] <tatertots> calrik: does the symptom occur if you use another usb mouse instead of the one you are using now?
[08:49] <calrik> no
[08:49] <minimec> calrik: I had to check that... and I can confirm that problem on a Lenovo x230 with Ubuntu 16.04. I don'ts have the problem on a Acer Chromebook with Fedora 25. I will test with a different mouse.
[08:49] <calrik> just did with basic microsoft no issue
[08:49] <tatertots> calrik: from your observation and testing it appears thy symptom is isolated to 1 specific hardware device commonly referred to as a mouse
[08:50] <calrik> wow
[08:50] <calrik> tatertots are you a bot?
[08:50] <calrik> because you talk like one
[08:50] <calrik> its very patronising
[08:50] <tatertots> calrik: have you consulted with the hardware manufacture to determine if the specific hardware device has any drivers?
[08:51] <calrik> right because my manufacturer is really going to give two shits about ubuntu
[08:52] <tatertots> calrik: have you consulted any search engines or ubuntu forums to determine if other users of that specific hardware device are using any 3rd party drivers for that specific device?
[08:52] <yacc> calrik, https://www.google.at/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=thermaltake+sentinal+gaming+mouse&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=xEbOWIqWNaGg8we28pSADQ#channel=fs&q=thermaltake+sentinal+gaming+mouse+usb+sleep&*
[08:52] <calrik> tatertots can you just shut up please Im getting help thanks
[08:53] <calrik> thanks Yacc you have been great help
[08:53] <yacc> calrik, not sure if that's your mouse, but the first article pops out as "Razer's brand new mamba doesn't like to sleep"???
[08:54] <tatertots> calrik: i just help you actually figure out it was your mouse that was the issue and not all the stuff you dreamed up like kernels,upgrades, power management....you should actually be thanking me...i know u don't know any better so i'll let it slide this time....good luck...and....YOU'RE WELCOME
[08:55] <yacc> tatertots, actually, there are sometimes devices that don't react to USB power management that well. I still think that Ubuntu should somehow be able to work easily with those.
[08:56] <calrik> tatertots: next time try not to sound so patronising and robotic thanks in advance.
[08:57] <tatertots> calrik: next time.....try using a different mouse...thanks in advanced
[08:57] <pabed> foxv71: this is l2tp config file where I should enter my password in order to save .http://paste.ubuntu.com/24207052/
[08:57] <yacc> (tatertots my rapoo keyboard tended to go to sleep really really quick, and eat a keypress on wakeup, very sucky.  I am downloading the game.
[09:01] <tatertots> calrik: if i do...you have to give me your "good" mouse and suffer with the one you have problems with...deal?
[09:03] <calrik> well Im actually going to find the bug in ubuntu and in the kernel relating to whats causing this and try and isolate so Ubuntu can patch the problem, because there are heaps of people with this issue/bug.
[09:04] <calrik> Its kinda what I thought this channel was about, not giving up and just swapping for inferior products because its in the too hard basket
[09:05] <calrik> ok so the issue just happened with a basic microsoft mouse
[09:05] <calrik> just not as noticable
[09:06] <calrik> still very annoying and making ubuntu not usable
[09:06] <yacc> drm/i915: Resetting chip after gpu hang <= so what do I do against these lines in my kernel log, they also make my GUI hang for a 1-2 seconds. (Perfectly timed: long enough to be irritating, but not to make the whole box completely unusable :( )
[09:07] <tatertots> calrik: is this your mouse?   https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-MO-LTM009DT-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B009GTV3S4%3Fpsc%3D1%26SubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB009GTV3S4
[09:07] <calrik> mate the issue isnt the mouse its power management on the usb ports
[09:08] <calrik> so forget all about the mouse
[09:08] <yacc> calrik, yeah, as a guess, it depends upon how the USB gadget is handling USB powermanagement, my assumption would be that Linux does it by the book, but some USB products do not manage to do it by the book.
[09:09] <calrik> things got changed with the 4.7 and 4.8 kernel from what I am reading
[09:09] <calrik> regarding usb auto suspend
[09:09] <yacc> calrik, on windows it works, because either there is some "driver" that tunes power management, or because Windows in general does it more relaxed.
[09:10] <calrik> yeah there is a specific power management driver on windows
[09:11] <calrik> Intel AHCI is what handles it
[09:12] <calrik> Im suspecting the intel version of this is not 100% compatible with the 4.8 kernel
[09:12] <yacc> calrik, e.g. that's why you experience the sleep mode different depending upon the device: E.g. my case the Rapoo keyboard was waking up in a really bad way, eating key presses, while the Logitech keyboard manages to wake up without loosing any input.
[09:13] <calrik> hmm ok you gave me idea on how to fix it
[09:14] <calrik> well I will roll back to 16.04 and try your script first
[09:30] <karl_> Hi! I can't find aa-logprof on my system (ubuntu desktop 16.10) and I can't figure out what package to install to get it, any ideas?
[09:31] <alkisg> apparmor-utils
[09:32] <karl_> alkisg: that was it, thanks!
[09:32] <alkisg> np
[09:33] <Galvan123> Hi all. I'm configuring an apache server and, after configuring the virtual host properly to a local site i'm developing, it renames the url from "laravel.localhost" to "www.laravel.localhost". I googled about laravel and mod_rewrite and got nothing.
[09:33] <Galvan123> Maybe is something in htaccess?
[09:34] <Ben64> .localhost ?
[09:34] <Galvan123> Yep, that's the url I give to my sites: "something.localhost" (it's hosted in my file system)
[09:34] <Ben64> that's weird
[09:35] <Galvan123> I need to find why apache renames it as www
[09:35] <Ben64> it's either in apache config or the actual pages though, check em
[09:41] <Guest86431> hi )
[10:02] <costinramona> hi
[10:12] <frostie> is there a way to enable intelquick sync encode in handbrake 1.0.3 in ubuntu mate x64?
[10:17] <ducasse> frostie: afaik the underlying software does not support that on linux yet, at least it didn't last i checked.
[10:19] <frostie> ok i see thanks
[10:23] <eclud> Hello, sometimes Ubuntu boots and sometimes it gets stuck on dev / sda clean, how do I fix this? Is it a GPU & CPU problem? I have AMD Radeon R5 Graphics
[10:25] <backbox> Hi
[10:25] <ponyrider> eclud: edit your fstab
[10:26] <eclud> ponyrider what's fstab
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> !fstab
[10:26] <ponyrider> eclud: /etc/fstab = FileSystemTABle
[10:26] <ponyrider> yes
[10:27] <ponyrider> have the numbers 0 0 at the end
[10:27] <eclud> thanks! Gonna look it up and fix it :D
[10:28] <olivier__> hello
[10:36] <fishcooker> i have to login irc via web because of the strange appearance of lubuntu http://imgur.com/a/4aYN0
[10:38] <tatertots> fishcooker: has your computer been like that since immediately after installation of ubuntu or has the symptom only recently begin to be observed?
[10:39] <tatertots> fishcooker: has your computer been like that since immediately after installation of ubuntu or has the symptom only recently began to be observed?
[10:39] <fishcooker> this laptop uptime is about 5 days ... before uptime over 23 days... which log should i read  tatertots ?
[10:40] <fishcooker> it's not brand new
[10:40] <tatertots> fishcooker: all of them
[10:40] <OerHeks> fishcooker, after resume from suspend?
[10:41] <tatertots> fishcooker: i'll try to ask you a different way
[10:41] <OerHeks> and type of GPU might ben helpfull too.. seen a lot of intel with garbled fonts after resume/sleem
[10:42] <tatertots> fishcooker: when did you first notice the symptom?
[10:42] <tatertots> fishcooker: hmm that doesn't compute either...
[10:49] <fishcooker> yes after i resume, OerHeks
[10:49] <fishcooker> yes this is laptop tatertots
[10:49] <fishcooker> but i often resume without problem OerHeks
[10:49] <fishcooker> but my firefox is ok
[10:50] <fishcooker> no problem with the http
[10:50] <fishcooker> that's why i can chat to the webirc
[10:50] <fishcooker> but not with my pidgin and my shell
[10:50] <fishcooker> no hope for that
[10:51] <fishcooker> i know logoff will solve this but the cons is i lost my session ... FYI, if i do switch using another user the interface is fine
[10:51] <OerHeks> fishcooker, what gpu exactly?
[10:51] <OerHeks> if it is one of the newest intel ( 5000 and up), change sna to uxa, see if that helps, you need to writ this xorg.conf for it http://askubuntu.com/a/640839
[10:51] <fishcooker> which log should i check Oerheks
[10:52] <OerHeks> i dunno, what log.
[10:52] <OerHeks> some think it is only with Ubuntu family fonts
[10:53] <fishcooker> let me check using another login... i will switch back to inform you my laptop is lenovo g40 intel i5 with amd radeon gpu
[10:56] <ivan> does anyone know the crazy details of why apt autoremove doesn't remove everything not depended-on even with RecommendsImportant=false and SuggestsImportant=false?
[10:56] <ivan> e.g. I have a server with a bunch of linux-tools* installed but the rdepends lead to nothing
[10:56] <ivan> I noticed in one case that there were virtual packages involved but I don't know about this case
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> ivan  try this ... sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c
[11:01] <ivan> MonkeyDust: I think that purges packages that were removed but not purged
[11:02] <ivan> my problem is with apt's kinda-busted autoremove algorithm
[11:02] <ivan> it's keeping more packages than I expect
[11:04] <OerHeks> ivan,  so "RecommendsImportant=false and SuggestsImportant=false" are not to blame?
[11:05] <ivan> OerHeks: no that improves the behavior by removing more stuff
[11:05] <ivan> anyway I think I figured it out
[11:05] <ivan> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels has a APT::NeverAutoRemove that includes linux-tools-* :-)
[11:06] <OerHeks> good find
[11:20] <OerHeks> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:21] <OerHeks> paradox: VS blokkeren G20-afspraak over vrijhandel
[11:23]  * OerHeks blames the tab for wrong channel
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> yes, that language is completely alien to me
[11:31] <tatertots> anyone have a good pot roast recipe?
[11:31] <tatertots> sorry wrong room
[11:33] <OerHeks> yum
[11:33] <KeyboardNotFound> My usb mouse doesn't work when hotplugged, and it works when I insert the usb before booting the linux. Any solution?
[11:33] <ppf> what's dmesg say when you plug it in?
[11:34] <OerHeks> wired or wireless mouse?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> KeyboardNotFound  in a terminal type this, then un/replug the mouse ... tail -f /var/log/syslog
[11:34] <OerHeks> sudo rmmod usbhid &&sudo modprobe usbhid
[11:35] <KeyboardNotFound> MonkeyDust: get message that it's recognized as usb mouse
[11:35] <KeyboardNotFound> OerHeks: wireless, it doesnt work
[11:35] <KeyboardNotFound> but same happens with wired mouses too
[11:36] <OerHeks> KeyboardNotFound, then your usb controller isn't well supported
[11:36] <OerHeks> KeyboardNotFound, please answer ppf's question
[11:36] <KeyboardNotFound> OerHeks: it used to work well before, after update it stopped working
[11:36] <OerHeks> change batteries
[11:37] <KeyboardNotFound> I have this in /etc/X11/xorg http://pastebin.com/KRmNqr79
[11:37] <KeyboardNotFound> maybe it causes problems ?
[11:38] <KeyboardNotFound> ppf: http://pastebin.com/FVsfAEgr
[11:41] <KeyboardNotFound> made some changes to /etc/X11 settings, brb in 5 mins
[11:43] <Kiicki> Is swap space really needed for someone that doesn't do much and has 16GB of RAM already? My understanding is that swap will be used when you have used up all your RAM which is not likely for my usage
[11:44] <gnubuntu> how to replace aonther distro's / partition with ubuntu and keep /home
[11:44] <OerHeks> Kiicki, with 16 you don't need swap, unless you want to use sleep/hybernate
[11:45] <gnubuntu> its good to have a swap file anyway
[11:45] <Kiicki> Sleep is something I will probably use
[11:45] <gnubuntu> sleep is not hybernate
[11:45] <Kiicki> I know
[11:45] <Kiicki> He mentioned both
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> gnubuntu  sounds like a bad idea ... /home contains config files that may not be compatible with ubuntu
[11:45] <OerHeks> gnubuntu,  is would not re-use a /home folder for an other distro
[11:46] <gnubuntu> what about /home/user/'s permissions, /home is on another partition
[11:46] <ivan> Kiicki: I run everything without swap
[11:46] <OerHeks> but if you want it, choose 'something else and unmark formatting of the /home/ partition, ubuntu does not seperate home and / standard
[11:46] <dbale> Hi all!I need help.
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> dbale  let's hear it, in one line
[11:47] <OerHeks> gnubuntu, .. "/home/user/'s permissions, /home is on another partition" .. funny install, you know the answer then
[11:47] <gnubuntu> i see do not format, its selected by default
[11:47] <dbale> I'm trying to hide grub at boot but unsuccesfull
[11:48] <Kiicki> I noticed that if I install Ubuntu with the default option like "Just install automatically" it creates a 17173MB swap and the rest doesn't have a mount point. as in the rest is not in "/" or "/home" according to the partitions
[11:48] <gnubuntu> funny? its pretty standart, / and /home
[11:48] <fishcooker> OerHeks: AFAIK i has AMD radeon installed i see it on sticker attached to G40 but the lshw said the intel video applied https://gist.github.com/anonymous/735c1b4f54920690ad3a16308c341c4f
[11:49] <fishcooker> sorry OerHeks i did sleep not suspend ... i usually do sleep not suspend, tatertots
[11:49] <OerHeks> gnubuntu, /home/user/'s permissions, /home is on another partition is *not* standard, so it is funny
[11:50] <KeyboardNotFound> it still doesn't work
[11:50] <fishcooker> the question is why this happen only on my session but on another session the appearance just fine
[11:51] <cores> hi'm on ubuntu 16.04 64-bit how should i update my kernel to 4.10.4? theres no official ubuntu package for it yet but theres a bug related to my laptop thats fixed in a really recent version of the kernel
[11:51] <OerHeks> fishcooker, so the bug is inconsistent.
[11:51] <Kiicki> What I find weird is that I cannot share my external HDD over network because of permission issues, but if I mount the external HDD to my username inside Home and share that entire username over network, I can access the external HDD over that and i can even write/read it. Weirdly enough I cannot write the "downloads" folder that is also inside the username
[11:51] <Kiicki> in Home. I would need to manually share that folder separate to allow that.
[11:51] <gnubuntu> how is having /home/ not standart
[11:52] <gnubuntu> on another partition
[11:52] <cores> i'm not sure if the docs i'm looking at for running mainline kernels are still valid
[11:52] <OerHeks> gnubuntu, now you turning  around, seperate home settings and home data is not standard, what linux is that?
[11:53] <gnubuntu> not ubuntu obviously
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> gnubuntu  cat /etc/issue
[11:53] <fishcooker> yes ... but it happen when i do resume after many sleep, OerHeks ... any pointer of the inconsistent bug... or log should i inspect
[11:54] <gnubuntu> im just not familiar with the installer and wonder when how to keep /home partition and mount it as /home for ubuntu
[11:55] <Kiicki> I just checked that you don't really need swap space if you are going to use sleep but only for hypernate, which I won't. I think I'm good without it. yes, I'm greedy about storage for this PC
[11:56] <cores> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds thats what i'm using
[11:56] <cores> i guess its relatively recent
[11:57] <OerHeks> cores that page is valid, use at your own risc
[11:58] <cores> OerHeks, my system has a serious bug. so i'm already at risk
[11:58] <cores> updating should fix it, in theory, but it might introduce other problems that i'm willing to accept
[11:58] <cores> "if one is using select proprietary or out-of-tree modules (ex. vitualbox, nvidia, fglrx, bcmwl, etc.) unless there is an extra package available for the version you are testing, you will need to uninstall the module first"
[11:59] <Kiicki> Now I understand the difference between "/" and "/home" that's pretty smart in case I want to upgrade or reinstall Linux. I don't lose personal files that is stored in Home. Pretty neat
[11:59] <cores> that part confuses me, how to i find out if i'm using "out-of-tree" modules
[12:00] <cores> i'm pretty sure i'm using virtualbox modules
[12:00] <minimec> cores: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.10.4/
[12:00] <cores> because i remember installing that at one time
[12:00] <cores> minimec, thanks. looks like i hvae to uninstall my incompatible modules first...
[12:00] <Kiicki> OerHeks lets say I only want one partition and don't want "/" and "/home"
[12:00] <Kiicki> Would I make that partition "/" or "/home"?
[12:01] <OerHeks> cores,  maybe kernel 4.8 fixes your issue? easy to install, and supported > http://askubuntu.com/a/885056
[12:02] <OerHeks> Kiicki, that saves a few bytes, not worth the trouble
[12:02] <Kiicki> I know, but just asking. I wold make that "/" right? Not home?
[12:02] <OerHeks> Kiicki, yes
[12:03] <Kiicki> Thanks. I will give the "/" 20GB. Should be more than enough and rest in home.
[12:03] <Kiicki> Maybe I will give 2GB for swap as I already have more than enough RAM for my usage
[12:04] <cores> OerHeks, occording to the mailing lists i'm looking at the issue wasn't fixed until last month
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> Kiicki  tip: if you have enough space, keep some space (partition) empty, for emergency or backup purposes or so
[12:13] <Kiicki> Does softwares you install get stored in root or home? Probably a silly question but if it's in root, I don't know if 20-30GB is that much tbh
[12:13] <Kiicki> or does only Linux OS and updates get installed in Root?
[12:14] <k1l_> the software is stored in /, but the user configuration and the data is put into /home. 20Gb is more than enough. most desktops will use 7-10GB or such
[12:14] <k1l_> *for /
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> Kiicki  typically in /usr/bin/
[12:15] <Kiicki> Thanks!
[12:21] <anonymous_> hi there
[12:21] <OerHeks> :-)
[12:21] <anonymous_> yaw
[12:22] <anonymous_> oer heks are you hacker
[12:23] <k1l_> anonymous_: no hacking here. this is the technical support for ubuntu.
[12:23] <OerHeks> anonymous_, hacking is beyond the scope of this ubuntu support channel
[12:24] <anonymous_> ah ok i was think is here hackers
[12:25] <Kiicki> Ok so I have made a root and a home partition. I'm about to install Ubuntu but do I need to click on a partition and then "install now" or does it make any difference? Should I click the root and install now or "/dev/sda" and then install or does it actually matter?
[12:25] <OerHeks> you'll find no hacking cahnnels here on #freenode, change server
[12:25] <gnubuntu> you should have /boot / and /home
[12:25] <OerHeks> Kiicki, so you are doing manually what ubuntu does automaticly
[12:26] <gnubuntu> if possible
[12:26] <gnubuntu> /boot should be ext2
[12:26] <k1l_> gnubuntu: no, /boot is not needed
[12:26] <gnubuntu> its preferapble
[12:26] <anonymous_> send me the server heks
[12:26] <k1l_> gnubuntu: no
[12:26] <gnubuntu> yes you dont need journaling
[12:26] <k1l_> gnubuntu: because the "/boot is full" issue is more annoying than anything else
[12:26] <cfhowlett> false!  ext2 has been deprecated for years!  are you deliberately spreading disinformation or what, gnubuntu
[12:26] <Kiicki> it actually doesn't do it automatically Oerheks. I have checked. what it does automatically is to make a swap and the rest is in root. actually the mount point doesn't say anything but I assume it's root as nothing isn't an option
[12:27] <Kiicki> It doesn't create a home partition in other words with automatic
[12:27] <maneesha> trying to get help with this question -- posted on ask ubuntu with no responses: http://askubuntu.com/questions/893473/manage-keyboard-backlight-on-dual-boot-system
[12:27] <OerHeks> !partitioning | Kiicki  go read the guide first, it might clear things up
[12:27] <maneesha> I've tried a ton of things, no success
[12:27] <maneesha> Can anyone help?
[12:27] <alkisg> Kiicki: if you want manual partitioning, you have to select each partition and then click use as e.g. ext4 and mount to e.g. /
[12:28] <Kiicki> alkisg the partitions is done actually. I'm about to hit "install now" but not sure if I should check one of the partition before I install
[12:28] <Kiicki> or if it makes any difference
[12:28] <alkisg> Kiicki: cyes, you need to click all of them
[12:28] <k1l_> Kiicki: check for what?
[12:29] <alkisg> Click e.g. sda1, select "use as ext4", and "mount to /", then click sda2, and select "use as ext4" and "mount to /home"
[12:29] <alkisg> No need to click swap
[12:29] <ppf> why create an extra home partition anyways?
[12:30] <Kiicki> Like do I need to click the root partition and then click install now or does it matter what I click before I hit install k1l_
[12:30] <cfhowlett> ppf, makes life a bit easier come upgrade time.
[12:30] <ppf> cfhowlett: how so
[12:30] <cfhowlett> data in /home is kept separate from the main / system, so should not be touched during install/upgrade
[12:31] <k1l_> Kiicki: "klick the partition"? what do you mean?  if you make the manual install then yes, you need to make sure you set the partitions to be "mounted as ...." before you hit isntall
[12:31] <anonymous_> guys can you hemp me i have problem in kali linux 2016.2
[12:31] <alkisg> It's really good if you dual/triple boot; and it's sometimes a bit better if / gets corrupted; but ubiquity is smart enough nowadays to not erase it on upgrades/reinstallations, so it's not a big deal to have a separate /home or not
[12:31] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, no.  kali has their own support channels and is not supported here at all.
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !kali
[12:31] <ppf> cfhowlett: i'm hoping upgrade/install doesn't touch /home at all
[12:31] <OerHeks> anonymous_, hacking is beyond the scope of this ubuntu support channel, no kali questions are answered here
[12:31] <cfhowlett> ppf, then you might want to set a manual /home
[12:31] <gnubuntu> could you please link me to read ext2 is depricated
[12:31] <Kiicki> k1l_ http://imgur.com/a/tx2Ea
[12:31] <Kiicki> Everything is setup but do I need to click on one of the partitions on the left before I hit install. I wouldn't want to install the OS in the wrong partition
[12:32] <ppf> cfhowlett: why?
[12:32] <alkisg> Kiicki: you've already selected the mount points, go ahead and click install
[12:32] <k1l_> Kiicki: so what do you want to check there?
[12:32] <alkisg> Kiicki: eeeh you have only 10 gb for root
[12:33] <ppf> cfhowlett: not assuming the installer/upgrade is severly broken, it won't touch anyhing in /home
[12:33] <anonymous_> i have problem of copie the files from the windows to kali linux
[12:33] <alkisg> Kiicki: better increase that now, otherwise it'll be more diffiule later...
[12:33] <k1l_> Kiicki: and i would make / more then 10GB. i thought you had it with 20gb?
[12:33] <ppf> if you're worried about that, snapshot your FS right before
[12:33] <alkisg> *difficult
[12:33] <k1l_> anonymous_: only ubuntu talk here. ask the kali guys for their OS
[12:33] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, we - do - not - support - kali.  go to the kali channels.
[12:34] <OerHeks> bye anonymous_
[12:34] <anonymous_> what should i do
[12:34] <cfhowlett> !kali > anonymous_ read
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  type  /part ... then join the kali channel
[12:35] <gnubuntu> kinda rude famm :/
[12:36] <tozen> gnubuntu: what about?
[12:38] <gnubuntu> is april 2021 eol for i386
[12:38] <anonymous_> how is ubottu
[12:39] <OerHeks> gnubuntu, maybe, no news about that
[12:40] <tuxiano> Hi, I want change in the shotwell database (sqlite) the location where my pictures are stored. Unfortunately I am not an sql expert and my sql command is not working at all ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/24208008/
[12:45] <OerHeks> tuxiano, if you find no answer here, or in #ubuntu-server, there is a #sqlite channel here on #freenode too
[12:49] <ppf> tuxiano: i don't think you can use wildcards in replace()
[12:49] <Claudio> Ciao a tutti
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> !it
[12:50] <danil> join #ubuntu-ru
[12:50] <danil> join #ubuntu_ru
[12:51] <k1l_> danil: /join #channelname
[12:52] <vaikol> danil, if you are trying to join. add a slash /
[12:52] <danil> thanks.
[12:53] <gnubuntu> !ru
[12:54] <tuxiano> OerHeks & ppf: thank you
[12:55] <Kiicki> k1l_ I changed my mind but i can go with 20GB. what I meant by "checking" is that, do I need to select one of the partitions on the left before I click install now? Like, to I need to at least mark them so it gets installed in the right partition?
[12:55] <Kiicki> What if I click once on the Home partition and then click install now, will it install in home partition?
[12:56] <Kiicki> or will it still go in root? does it matter
[12:56] <k1l_> Kiicki: no, that is what the "mount as" part is for
[12:56] <Kiicki> aah, so it doesn't matter. Thanks. I felt like i was talking Chinese : p
[12:57] <sambeet> hello
[12:58] <Kiicki> but yeah, installing Ubuntu automatically is not the same as I do now even though my setup is kinda basic. What automatic did in my setup was to create a swap space of 17173 MB and the rest didn't have a mount point. At least it didn't say but I assume it's in root.
[12:59] <Kiicki> Like the mount point was just empty
[12:59] <alkisg> Kiicki: I had replied to you 3 times; it felt like I was ignored :)
[12:59] <k1l_> Kiicki: tha automatic install did the same, but since its automatic you didnt notice.
[12:59] <Kiicki> aah, sorry. I was gone for 10-15 min too so you might have replied then. sorry
[12:59] <alkisg> No, it was when you were still talking :)
[13:00] <alkisg> Anyways
[13:00] <Kiicki> after I installed with automatic I went back to check the disks. it said what I said
[13:00] <Kiicki> swap and the rest no moint point. at least no home
[13:00] <Kiicki> only 2 partitions
[13:00] <hmz365> BIOS does not ban hard drive option, how do I get banned in linuxo system hard drive?
[13:01] <vaikol> automatic install won't create a home partition, right?
[13:02] <alkisg> Right
[13:02] <alkisg> One primary /, and one logical swap
[13:02] <alkisg> (and I've no idea why it creates a logical swap instead of primary
[13:02] <k1l_> hmz365: what do you mean "ban harddrive"?
[13:02] <vaikol> alkisg, thanks for the info..
[13:03] <alkisg> np
[13:03] <Dreaman> Kiicki  system is good free radeon driver or
[13:03] <Kiicki> That's what I been trying to say. it does not create a home partition so even this basic partition I use is not the same as automatic installing
[13:03] <alkisg> Kiicki: yes, I already replied to you on that too :
[13:03]  * alkisg feels like a ghost... :)
[13:04] <k1l_> Kiicki: is there a support issue still?
[13:04] <Kiicki> nah, we are all good. Thanks you guys < 3
[13:04] <tatertots> what just happened?
[13:04] <Kiicki> and sorry again akisg.  Sometimes my internet speed goes terribly slow (only in my pc with integrated wifi Centrino Wireless-N 100, tried also usb wifi). sudo service network-manager restart looks to fix the problem. Does anyone know if is a NM known problem with wifi or maybe something else is wrong?
[13:44]  * OerHeks disregards poo- and crap- names
[13:45] <jddkm> maybe, but how can I fix that? it is barely usable
[13:46] <OerHeks> jddkm, screenshot can be helpfull, and theme name used
[13:46] <OerHeks> nobody can answer on such sparse inforeally
[13:46] <jddkm> i don't know what theme is used
[13:47] <jddkm> where can i paste the screenshot?
[13:47] <OerHeks> systemsettings > sppearance > theme .. for unity that is
[13:48] <jddkm> it's Ambiance
[13:48] <OerHeks> imgur.com is fine
[13:49] <jddkm> http://savepic.ru/13270531.png
[13:49] <jddkm> that's how Files app look
[13:51] <jddkm> every control has no border, only text
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:51] <alkisg> Hey BluesKaj
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Hi alkisg
[13:53] <jddkm> only Ambiance and Radiance are affected it seems
[13:53] <dieterd> xubuntu 16.04 - qemu arm-i386  libc bug  - http://pastebin.com/CmMdFrGr
[13:53] <OerHeks> jddkm, pretty small example, maybe it is the font used ? further more unity-tweak tool has some options with fonts anti aliassing
[13:54] <jddkm> not a font
[14:13] <michael_mbp> hi all, I find ifconfig reporting interface enp0s31f6 but this is missing in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:13] <michael_mbp> in any case, I can't seem to do ifup/down enp0s31f6
[14:13] <michael_mbp> but that interface is connected right now and has the right IP thanks to my local DHCP server.
[14:19] <murioki> mgk
[14:19] <murioki> hey guys
[14:31] <jddkm> i have reinstalled light-themes, but they are still broken
[14:31] <bekks> jddkm: Define "broken" in that context please.
[14:32] <bekks> What are you trying to do, what do you expect to happen, what happens instead - and which Ubuntu version are you using?
[14:33] <jddkm> 16.04, it's compteley broken, the controls have no borders, gnome apps have transparent titlebars
[14:36] <zaca> ola
[14:36] <alkisg> michael_mbp: if you're using network-manager, then it's normal that interfaces don't appear in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:37] <michael_mbp> alkisg: ah!
[14:37] <michael_mbp> no worries, thanks.
[14:37] <alkisg> np
[14:44] <linocisco> hi all
[14:44] <linocisco> how to partition for fresh installation of ubuntu desktop 16.04.2?
[14:45] <linocisco> does installer handle itself automatically?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> linocisco, let ubuntu autopartition
[14:45] <linocisco> I will use only ubuntu
[14:45] <linocisco> cfhowlett, btw, how can I see current partition scheme?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> gparted app will show you
[14:45] <gin> MonkeyDust: how do I change my lubuntu password?
[14:46] <jddkm> linocisco: choose Custom option
[14:47] <linocisco> jddkm, I am now with ubuntu which is too slow at boot and shutdown. so i decided to do fresh installation of ubuntu. I am confused with partitioning. I would like to run automatically  if innstaller creates also swap partition
[14:48] <gin> how do I change password. Password I use to login and everything else
[14:49] <OerHeks> gin, go into keys & passwords, but you need your password to change it
[14:49] <OerHeks> linocisco, just like your last time, it will do all automaticly, or see !partitioning for details how to do a custom layout
[14:49] <OerHeks> !partitioning
[14:50] <gin> OerHeks: thank you very much. Goodbye
[14:50] <linocisco> OerHeks, my question is that if i use automatic partitioning, will installer create swap partition also?
[14:51] <OerHeks> linocisco, yes
[14:51] <OerHeks> like the last time you installed ubuntu, why would that change?
[14:52] <linocisco> OerHeks, I dont remember
[14:53] <linocisco> OerHeks, sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL show only sda1 vfat     512M /boot/efi     and └─sda2 ext4   461.4G /
[14:53] <OerHeks> linocisco, jus tplugin the usb ( insert dvd)  and choose from the installer replace
[14:53] <dieterd> linocisco: booting or shut down could be slow by some of last updates on bios or uefi. my lenovo yoga showed that.
[14:54] <linocisco> dieterd, how did you fix it? any luck?
[14:55] <OerHeks> and what is slow?
[14:55] <linocisco> OerHeks, shutting down or reboot is so slow like 8-10 mins
[14:55] <OerHeks> hdd or ssd or nvme
[14:55] <linocisco> OerHeks, HDD
[14:55] <linocisco> OerHeks, Dell Insprion 3443, SATA HDD, 500 GB
[14:55] <dieterd> linocisco: there was no fix, because booting of an non windows system got some extra seconds for "thinking".
[14:56] <linocisco> dieterd, ok thanks.
[14:57] <OerHeks> hmm hd graphics 5500 ? try 16.10
[14:57] <linocisco> OerHeks, how to check graphics?
[14:57] <OerHeks> all models Dell Insprion 3443 have intel 5500
[14:58] <OerHeks> check the website? or systemsettings > details
[14:58] <dieterd> linocisco: but that was not so much like yours. I talk about additional 10s where nothing happens.
[14:58] <linocisco> OerHeks, GeForce 840M/PCIe/SSE2
[14:59] <dieterd> linosco: you should start with noquiet (delete quiet and splash) to see where it takes so long.
[15:00] <dieterd> in grub menu
[15:00] <linocisco> dieterd, where grub2.conf?
[15:01] <jddkm> 16.04, the ambiance/radiance themes are compteley broken, the controls have no borders, gnome apps have transparent titlebars -- any way to fix?
[15:02] <dieterd> at grub menu press "e" edit it and with f10 grub boots.
[15:02] <OerHeks> jddkm, maybe 'reset theme' will do any good?
[15:03] <OerHeks> jddkm, and with your small picture, i cannot make anything out of it, no border and such
[15:03] <jddkm> OerHeks: what's that?
[15:03] <linocisco> dieterd, thanks. let me try
[15:03] <dieterd> linosco: so you need not to change grub.config.
[15:03] <OerHeks> jddkm, systemsettings > appearance, like i told you before
[15:05] <jddkm> OerHeks: there is no reset button
[15:06] <OerHeks> or unity-tweak, that tool got more options
[15:07] <um87> I'm deploying a Django application on Ubuntu and Gunicorn uses a file called gunicorn.socket - does anyone know how these .socket files are created?
[15:07] <alkisg> dieterd: what does noquiet do? I can't find it anywhere in the code...
[15:08] <OerHeks> alkisg, he means delete quiet
[15:08] <alkisg> I know about removing "quiet", but I wasn't aware anything checked for "noquiet"...
[15:11] <odroid> hi all
[15:12] <linocisco> dieterd, hi. reboot and shutdown is really slower
[15:12] <dieterd> alksig: deleting quiet is common. many you can invert with "no", and when not valid it will continue like quiet was deleted.
[15:12] <linocisco> dieterd, booting is not so slow 1 min . it is ok. btw, i can't get into grub menu with F10
[15:12] <Mr_Queue> How can I enable the touchpad while typing in 16.10? It seems someone decided the default and only option is to have it disabled. This doesn't work well for games like minecraft.
[15:14] <dieterd> linocisco: it's only "e" for edit.  that was not for fast booting, that was only to see the text window.
[15:15] <hello> morning
[15:15] <hello> anyone can help me with http://paste.ubuntu.com/24208913/ ?
[15:15] <dieterd> linocisco: sometimes this text helps to find where it takes so long.
[15:16] <OerHeks> !info php-json
[15:16] <OerHeks> hello ^
[15:17] <OerHeks> !find json
[15:17] <OerHeks> there are more packages, but i assume php-json ?
[15:17] <hello> let me try install all of them above
[15:17] <dieterd> hello: or use apt-cache search json
[15:17] <hello> it is for a tcl from an eggdrop
[15:18] <linocisco> dieterd, I can't even see grab menu. just ubntu logo and ......
[15:19] <OerHeks> !find  json.3tcl
[15:20] <hello> dieterd http://paste.ubuntu.com/24208955/
[15:21] <hello> ok
[15:21] <hello> now "package require tls"
[15:21] <hello> :p
[15:22] <jddkm> a larger picture: http://imgur.com/a/SFpwv
[15:23] <hello> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24208988/ i got next
[15:27] <thereyougo> anyone is here ?
[15:27] <alkisg> !ask
[15:27] <bekks> thereyougo: according to "/names", yes.
[15:28] <thereyougo> what I use screen, I can press "Ctrl-a [" to be able to scroll the history, now I can press "Ctrl-e" to scroll down, but to scroll up I press "Ctrl-p" and it first moves cursor to the top and only when it reaches the top it scrolls up, is there key to scroll without moving cursor ?
[15:28] <bekks> thereyougo: No.
[15:28] <dieterd> hello: you can try apt-get install for every package. if tells no installation candidate look apt-cache show will tell you which package will contain this.
[15:29] <nocturnally> beep wont output anything from PC speaker .. ubuntu 12.04 on a atom netbook
[15:29] <hello> i've got it tcl-tls
[15:29] <hello> :D
[15:29] <alkisg> thereyougo: page up? :)
[15:30] <thereyougo> bekks: how can you be so certain ?
[15:31] <bekks> thereyougo: because thats how scrolling in screen works :)
[15:41] <Mr_Queue> How can I enable the touchpad while typing in 16.10? It seems someone decided the default and only option is to have it disabled. This doesn't work well for games like minecraft.
[15:45] <lerner> what should I use to direct all traffic through a proxy? I edited environment variables and if I apt update from the shell it uses he proxy, but if I update ubuntu from the gui it downloads without proxy
[15:45] <SimonNL> Mr_Queue: system settings, mouse and touchpad.
[15:50] <EriC^^> lerner: did you add a proxy in settings > network?
[15:51] <Mr_Queue> SimonNL: You'd think so, but someone decided to remove it from there.
[15:59] <wilton> oi
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> polloi
[16:01] <ZeZu> If I have an active vpn ( up in ifconfig ),  how can I use it ?
[16:01] <ZeZu> IE:  route   or  have something bind to it's IP address ?
[16:01] <ppf> ZeZu: your vpn client usually adds the according routes for you
[16:01] <ppf> otherwise you need to do that manually
[16:03] <lahgersdaas> ..
[16:03] <ChadTaljaardt> Hey guys can someone help e
[16:04] <ChadTaljaardt> me *
[16:04] <ChadTaljaardt> im trying to use NPM, i do npm install xxxxxxx and it says it cant find node
[16:04] <ChadTaljaardt> but if i do nodejs --version it shows the version
[16:06] <chocopuff> ChadTaljaardt: share your errors verbatim
[16:07] <ChadTaljaardt> chocopuff https://cl.ly/1K2z1Y1e2U3U
[16:09] <chocopuff> ChadTaljaardt: hmm, thats odd
[16:09] <ChadTaljaardt> yeah :/
[16:09] <chocopuff> it does look like you have nodejs installed
[16:10] <ChadTaljaardt> yeah if i type which nodejs it returns the correct folder
[16:10] <ChadTaljaardt> here : /usr/bin/nodejs/
[16:11] <chocopuff> ahh here, wait, I'm not familiar with nodejs, but this might help
[16:11] <chocopuff> https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager
[16:12] <chocopuff> jump to the deb/*buntu section
[16:12] <chocopuff> It mentions a legacy package needed, though I can't guarantee entirely that this is what you need
[16:13] <ChadTaljaardt> i just need nodejs hahah
[16:13] <renn0xtk9> I got an error "QtQuick.Controls" version 2.1 not installed
[16:13] <ChadTaljaardt> maybe if i make a sym link from node to nodejs
[16:13] <renn0xtk9> anyone knows which lib I should intsall ?
[16:14] <chocopuff> ChadTaljaardt: yeah, it looks like thats what you need, just not sure what specifically you need to symlink
[16:14] <chocopuff> sorry, can't help much beyond that
[16:14] <SimonNL> Mr_Queue: I'm using a derivative I didn't notice I was replying in this channel
[16:31] <erva> i don't see wifi symbol why
[16:33] <chocopuff> erva: re-enable it in the settigns
[16:33] <erva> usually wifi symbol is on top of the screen but i don't see it how to get it back
[16:33] <erva> ok
[16:35] <hh2010> if i delete a UFW rule, does it automatically block that port?
[16:35] <docmur> For some odd reason Chrome is displaying my website code, html and php instead of rendering it, but firefox renders everything properly.  What would cause this?
[16:35] <chocopuff> docmur: is this for your website only? or are you talking about web browsing in general
[16:36] <docmur> my website, and the server is setup as a lamp server, with php and mysql running
[16:36] <skinux> This may be really dumb, but anyone know of a software package that will measure internet data usage and allow me to see how much I've used as time goes by?
[16:37] <ducasse> skinux: vnstat
[16:38] <docmur> When I run php index.html on the command line, it's outputting the right information
[16:38] <docmur> :S
[16:42] <erva> wifi icon is still missing
[16:43] <erva> my wifi icon is missing someone help me  plz
[16:43] <skinux> Also, I installed MATE, I get MATE login screen, but the desktop that loads up is Unity. How do I tell it to load the MATE DE?
[16:44] <sliddis> I have  a hp zbook g2 14". it has two gpu's. if I enable hybrid graphics, I get no external display when laptop is docket. if I disable hybrid graphics in bios, both displays work. how can I have hybrid graphics enabled and have both working?
[16:46] <erva> wifi icon is still missing
[16:46] <ioria> docmur, does it works on ff ?
[16:46] <sliddis> erva: try restarting nm-applet
[16:46] <docmur> yes
[16:46] <ioria> docmur, try to clean the chrome cache
[16:46] <sliddis> erva: sudo service network-manager restart
[16:47] <erva> i'll try sliddis
[16:51] <jddkm> 16.04, the ambiance/radiance themes are compteley broken, the controls have no borders, gnome apps have transparent titlebars -- any way to fix?
[16:51] <erva> is there any suggestions for missig wifi icon
[16:52] <ioria> erva, what happens if you run from terminal   : nm-applet
[16:52] <mguy> skinux: which icon is showing by the session type
[16:52] <erva> can you type me all the code
[16:53] <erva> i am a beginner
[16:53] <bekks> erva: that was all the code already.
[16:53] <ioria> erva, nm-applet
[16:53] <ioria> erva,  just run it
[16:54] <erva> The program 'nm-applet' can be found in the following packages:
[16:54] <erva>  * network-manager-gnome
[16:54] <erva>  * mythbuntu-diskless-client
[16:54] <erva> Try: sudo apt install <selected package>
[16:54] <bekks> erva: So install it.
[16:55] <ioria> erva,  yes, and plase paste on paste.ubuntu.com the output of     dpkg -l | grep network-
[17:03] <pos> In Xenial, I have no HDMI sound output in Settings->Sound. Booting up Debian Jessie and it is there
[17:04] <Saturn2888> Hi! I upgraded from 14.04.x to 16.04.2 today. I can no longer startup mysql. I assume this is because 5.7 isn't compatible with Kernel 4.4.0. My other server has a similar build and for some reason it's on 3.13; but on it, mysql works also on Ubuntu 16.04.2. Do you know why it won't start for me?
[17:04] <bekks> Saturn2888: Your assumption is wrong. Mysql 5.7 doesnt care about your kernel version at all.
[17:04] <mguy> Saturn2888: you must be getting an error message of some sort
[17:06] <Saturn2888> Correct:  2018 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/mysqld (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
[17:06] <bekks> Saturn2888: So take a look at the mysql error log then.
[17:06] <mguy> Saturn2888:  https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/starting-server-troubleshooting.html
[17:10] <mguy> Saturn2888: I'm going to guess it's a line in your mysqld config file, maybe a path changed or something
[17:10] <ioria> Saturn2888, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.7
[17:12] <Saturn2888> Looks like I might've found it: ```Can't start server: UNIX Socket : Permission denied```
[17:12] <Saturn2888> The docs for 5.7 show some directories which don't apply to Ubuntu
[17:13] <mguy> I'd then guess either a mysqlserver is already running or you don't have permission to start the server on a socket < 1024
[17:14] <konrados> Morning, - the way to find whether a package is available is to enter apt-cache search something, right? If so, then why apt-cache search inkskape brings me nothing, that's impossible...
[17:14] <mguy> konrados: inkscape
[17:14] <konrados> sec...
[17:16] <konrados> mguy - thank you!
[17:16] <Darkelarious> hi, I just came back from a stroll on askubuntu and others, I decided to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 with my Amd card, which obviously broke my fglrx/catalyst. Everything, including gaming/3d seems to work fine, except that the color intensity is so screwed up that I get an instant headache
[17:16] <mguy> konrados: you can search by description not just name: apt-cache search vector | grep drawing
[17:17] <Darkelarious> so i tried xgamma, which has an effect, except for that the brightness/contrast/saturation are so painfully different. Where do I start in fixing/finetuning that?
[17:17] <konrados> mguy - thanks again!
[17:17] <mabynogy> hello
[17:17] <Darkelarious> hi
[17:18] <Saturn2888> I tried logging in as root also; still can't start mysql. Nothing else was on 3306, but I don't know how to check the socket. I didn't see a .sock file
[17:21] <R2AMO> Darkelarious is an AMD Video hardware stable for long uptime ?
[17:21] <Darkelarious> i had no problems in 14.04 for multiple weeks uptime
[17:22] <Darkelarious> i just upgraded to 16.04 today, with other problems, so can't say for 16.04
[17:22] <ioria> Saturn2888, do you have a /etc/mysql/my.cnf.migrated file  ?
[17:22] <Saturn2888> yep
[17:22] <R2AMO> 10x for info.
[17:22] <Darkelarious> np
[17:23] <Darkelarious> additional: i have a TAHITI card, r9 280 vapor-x
[17:23] <ioria> Saturn2888, as written in the release notes "Some configuration directives have been changed or deprecated, so if you are upgrading from a previously customized configuration then you will need to update your customization appropriately"
[17:24] <Saturn2888> Strange my other server didn't have this issue when it upgraded.
[17:24] <Darkelarious> Saturn2888: i experienced that luck is also a factor
[17:24] <Saturn2888> :p
[17:25] <mguy> Saturn2888: How much data is it? Is it just a wordpress install or like 2TB of data?
[17:25] <mguy> Saturn2888: I'd just install  a new server, migrate all your data over, then switch em
[17:25] <Saturn2888> how do you access the DB files directly?
[17:27] <erva> how to open cryptkeeper from terminal
[17:27] <bekks> Saturn2888: you cant.
[17:27] <bekks> Saturn2888: Setup a new server, and import your latest backup.
[17:28] <Saturn2888> Yeah, then I have to get this working. It's got game stats for a game I have on Steam. I haven't done a backup in a while. Completely forgot to back it up before I upgraded since I did a number of web servers at the same time.
[17:28] <Darkelarious> erva: I don't know cryptkeeper, but usually a command like "man cryptkeeper" may show you the manual
[17:29] <erva> how to open any application from terminal
[17:29] <erva> what is th command
[17:30] <Darkelarious> do you have a terminal open?
[17:30] <erva> yes
[17:30] <Darkelarious> try
[17:30] <Darkelarious> man cryptkeeper
[17:30] <erva> i tried
[17:30] <Darkelarious> what did it say?
[17:31] <erva> No manual entry for cryptkeeper
[17:31] <Darkelarious> then cryptkeeper is not the name of the program
[17:31] <erva> but i already installed it
[17:31] <Oer> erv is is a tray applet, why do you want to access it on comandline?
[17:31] <erva> and i have files the locked it via this app
[17:32] <erva> because this is so with linux ubuntu
[17:32]  * Darkelarious is back in an hour
[17:33] <erva> with other distro u can make normal search and find it
[17:33] <Mike_Went> hi
[17:33] <Oer> erva, just use the icon on your panel
[17:34] <erva> i used it it does not work unless someone help with command to open it
[17:35] <Oer> erva,  good luck finding it .. i guess you never did it on comandline, it is an applet
[17:36] <Mike_Went> which IRC server is the easiest to install and configure?
[17:37] <Oer> man cryptkeeper :  cryptkeeper doesn't support any command-line parameter.
[17:39] <erva> i did it
[17:39] <erva> i just wrote cryptkeeper without any command
[17:39] <erva> oh god
[17:41] <Jean_Claude> if it takes no command line parameter, why do you want to launch it with terminal ?
[17:42] <erva> cuz there is no other way to install and open cryptkeeper from ubuntu
[17:42] <erva> i tried many ways
[17:43] <erva> only terminal
[17:44] <erva> i was wrong
[17:45] <erva> i found it from searching panel
[17:45] <erva> but before that it was not there
[17:46] <erva> weird
[17:46] <Jean_Claude> google saif you had to restart your session before it works
[17:46] <Jean_Claude> said
[18:04] <vmnew> NTFS formatted external usb drive (usb only), worked yesterday and doesn't today. Mounts correctly and df shows that there is X used/available correctly but 'ls -la /mnt' showx 0 files
[18:06] <vmnew> I remounted now and I see '.Trash-1000' with some deleted items. WHAT is going on here?
[18:11] <Oer> vmnew, look into 'disks' for smart info, but not all usb controllers pass-through smart info :-(
[18:12] <vmnew> Oer: Disk is OK, 2 bad sectors (23° C / 73° F)  - Is this it?
[18:13] <Oer> vmnew, jups
[18:14] <vmnew> Oer: The 2 bad sectors can make the files not show up? Will fscking it do the trick?
[18:15] <m0z1774> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/software-development-cancer.html
[18:15] <m0z1774> read it and weep
[18:16] <Oer> vmnew, depends where, if they are in the mbr, you have a problem
[18:16] <Oer> m0z1774, please donn't spam, thanks
[18:18] <m0z1774> whos spamming?
[18:21] <energizer> how can i open all images in my working directory?
[18:22] <energizer> specifically all .png
[18:22] <erva> is there a good VPN APP  to linux ubuntu
[18:22] <Oer> xdg-open *.png
[18:23] <viju> Guys
[18:23] <erva> i want to watch USA Netflix from germany
[18:23] <energizer> Oer: unexpected argument [the second one]
[18:23] <viju> How do I create an ISO from files/folders on filesystem?
[18:23] <viju> I am using 16.04
[18:24] <Oer> !vpn
[18:24] <viju> This must be a bootable drive though
[18:24] <viju> bootable ISO, rather
[18:24] <Oer> viju, you want to make a bootable iso of your current system?
[18:24] <vmnew> Oer: ntfsfix was clean - NTFS partition /dev/sda1 was processed successfully- Still the disk only shows the trash dir... Advice?
[18:25] <Oer> vmnew, maybe the files are just deleted , do they appear in your trashcan?
[18:25] <viju> Oer: I have a copied a cd content I want to make that a bootable ISO
[18:25] <PawelF> Hi all
[18:26] <ioria> energizer, for i in *.png; do xdg-open $i; done
[18:26] <viju> Brasero gives me some kind of error that the file size is more than 2GB
[18:26] <PawelF> I'm looking for help with network troubleshooting, can anyone help please?
[18:26] <viju> That's why
[18:26] <Oer> viju, you could try cubic, never tried myself >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[18:26] <energizer> ioria: thanks
[18:27] <ioria> energizer, ok
[18:27] <vmnew> Oer: Nah, some files do appear in the trash but I did delete those from the drive. All other files seem to be disappeared
[18:28] <BillyMichael> Has anyone ever had problems with linux and MSI motherboards?
[18:28] <Oer> vmnew, sounds like they are affected by bad blocks
[18:29] <k1l_> BillyMichael: maybe yes, maybe no
[18:29] <vmnew> Oer: Tried to ntfsix with bad blocks - Going to un-mark the bad clusters ($BadClus)... No bad clusters...OK  - seems ok....
[18:29] <BillyMichael> k1l_: haha, what do you mean?
[18:29] <k1l_> BillyMichael: what do you mean? :)
[18:30] <Oer> BillyMichael, ask your real question, msi makes 100s motherboards
[18:30] <BillyMichael> I have tried installing ubuntu and fedora and have had so many problems
[18:30] <Peanut> Hi - does anyone know how to enable X over network on 16.10? I've tried editing lightdm/xx-user.conf, /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc, but to no avail so far.
[18:30] <k1l_> BillyMichael: there are thousands of mainboards. so where is the idea in asking if someone with some other mainboard had issues? does it help you with your issue? where we dont know what the issue is at all
[18:30] <BillyMichael> Fedora just outright fails to install
[18:30] <BillyMichael> My keyboard and mouse fails to be recognised on boot
[18:31] <BillyMichael> The screen "loses focus" until i ctrl+alt_f1 and then ctrl_alt_f7
[18:31] <BillyMichael> The screen "loses focus" until i ctrl+alt_f1 and then ctrl+alt+f7*
[18:31] <ponyrider> Peanut: x11vnc
[18:32] <BillyMichael> They are my ubuntu issues. and fedoras live USB just gives me "exit_boot() failed! efi_main() failed!"
[18:32] <jm__> hi
[18:32] <k1l_> BillyMichael: after standby/suspend you mean?
[18:32] <Peanut> Thanks ponyrider - that might work, but how do I enable network access for my Xwindows?
[18:33] <BillyMichael> k1l_: Nope, after a fresh start
[18:33] <ponyrider> Peanut: https://tecadmin.net/setup-x11vnc-server-on-ubuntu-linuxmint/#
[18:34] <Peanut> ponyrider: Thanks, but I'm not looking to set up vncviewer, I'm trying to set up actual X.
[18:34] <jm__> is this a chatroom strictly for ubuntu related stuff? sorry, newbiew here
[18:34] <k1l_> BillyMichael: what does "dmesg" tell about that?
[18:34] <Saturn2888> Same issue as before. Still can't get mysql running. Even uninstalled it and switched to MariaDB, same issue
[18:34] <BillyMichael> Ill give you my typical scenario. I start my PC and ubuntu loads. The keyboard and mouse take maybe 1-2 minutes to respond and sometimes need reconnecting. I log in. Once logged in the PC will randomly lose focus of the screen which means i can no longer navigate. To rectify this i have to press ctrl+alt+f1 and then ctrl+alt+f7
[18:34] <Saturn2888> how can I check why it's paying permission denied on creating the socket?
[18:35] <ponyrider> Peanut: why dont you just click the link
[18:35] <jm__> lol... so much for all the propaganda about linux friendly folks...
[18:35] <jfcisco> hola
[18:35] <Peanut> ponyrider: I did - and I know what vncviewer is, and what x11vncviewer is. Those are nice solutions, but not to my problem.
[18:35] <ioria> BillyMichael, sudo dmidecode -t 2
[18:35] <erva> my wifi icon is missing when i type on terminal nm-applet it come back
[18:36] <BillyMichael> k1l_: I'm not sure right now as i've uninstalled to try fedora but the issues are even worse (The live USB wont load at all. It gives the "exit_boot() failed! efi_main() failed!" error)
[18:36] <erva> but it goes when close terminal
[18:37] <BillyMichael> ioria: what should i be looking for?
[18:37] <ioria> erva, add to  Startup Applications
[18:37] <ioria> BillyMichael,  it'll give us your MB model
[18:37] <erva> how
[18:37] <ponyrider> Peanut: you are nuts
[18:38] <EriC^^> ponyrider: that's a little redundant isn't it
[18:38] <Peanut> Thanks, ponyrider. I did not come here to be insulted.
[18:38] <BillyMichael> ioria: MSI Z97 Gaming 5 (MS-7917)
[18:39] <Oer> BillyMichael, look for a bios update
[18:39] <ponyrider> x11vnc is a server not a viewer
[18:39] <ioria> erva,  type Startup in dash -> Add and point the command box to /usr/bin/nm-applet
[18:40] <BillyMichael> Oer: ill give it a try.
[18:42] <ponyrider> Peanut: so want x11 forwarding
[18:42] <cesdo> Is it very dangerous to compile wayland-protocols 1.4.1? Ubuntu 16.04 contains 1.1.2.
[18:42] <Ubuntu_man> hi all
[18:42] <Peanut> ponyrider: No, also not X11 forwarding, that doesn't perform well in this scenario.
[18:43] <cicerotully> Hi, I know that this isn't an Elementary forum, but that one is really silent. I'm having some trouble getting the elementary installer to work, it says that when configuring apt to install additional data it runs into problems.
[18:43] <ponyrider> Peanut: ##@ seriously what do you want
[18:43] <Ubuntu_man> i wanted to know if its ok to use XFS file system for desktop usage?
[18:43] <Peanut> ponyrider: To start an Xserver without the '-nolisten tcp' option.
[18:43] <energizer> cicerotully: might also check ##linux
[18:43] <Peanut> My existing TCP server.
[18:43] <vmnew> Oer, still here? 'Last self-test completed successfully'
[18:44] <Ubuntu_man> can anyone advise me as i am in the middle of a Installation?
[18:44] <Ubuntu_man> need to decide
[18:44] <wadie> Does anyone know of a good ShareX Ubuntu alternative ?
[18:44] <Kiicki> How do I disable keyring from Chrome? I tried to delete it in "Password and Keys" but the box shows anyhow. I'm not talking about just setting the password to nothing but actually disabling it from asking me again
[18:44] <wadie> an app to take screenshots and upload them directly
[18:45] <cicerotully> energizer, thank you
[18:45] <ioria> wadie, app, idk... but this should work http://paste.ubuntu.com/24210327/
[18:46] <Bashing-om> Kiicki: Try: Close Chrome. Open the file manager, press ctrl+H or show hidden files from menu, go to .local/share/keyrings, move the content to some backup place. Then logout and log back in. Open Chrome, there will be a pop up asking you to set a keyring password, leave it blank, confirm, then it shouldn't bother you anymore. If everything works, you can delete the backup you saved earlier.
[18:46] <ioria> wadie, ho... you first need to take the pic...
[18:46] <Ubuntu_man> hollla
[18:47] <erva> ioria, i didn't really get it
[18:47] <wadie> ioria yes take a screenshot of a specific area and it gets uploaded to imgut for example
[18:47] <brainwash> cicerotully: head over to #elementary
[18:48] <ioria> wadie,  ok... make a script that run scrot and pass the pic to the imgur script
[18:48] <ponyrider> Peanut: edit xserverrc
[18:50] <Peanut> ponyrider: I already did that, removed the '-nolisten tcp", that doesn't make a difference.
[18:50] <wadie> ioria, ok thanks!
[18:50] <ponyrider> you need -listen tcp
[18:50] <ioria> wadie,  ok
[18:50] <erva> nm-applet make wifi icon appear but when i close terminal it vanished
[18:51] <ponyrider> Peanut: man 1 xserver
[18:51] <Ubuntu_man> hmm
[18:51] <Ubuntu_man> any file system specialisit here?
[18:52] <Peanut> ponyrider: Restarted lightdm, no difference, it still shows as -nolisten tcp
[18:52] <EriC^^> Ubuntu_man: ask maybe somebody knows
[18:52] <erva> nm-applet make wifi icon appear but when i close terminal it vanished
[18:53] <SimonNL> erva: nm-applet &
[18:53] <Ubuntu_man> @eric^^ thats what i am trying to do
[18:54] <ioria> wadie, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24210386/
[18:54] <erva> SimonNL: I Want to keep wifi icon
[18:54] <EriC^^> Ubuntu_man: oh, didn't see your initial question
[18:54] <wadie> ioria, you went an extra mile for me. thanks a ton! I'll go from here <3
[18:55] <ioria> wadie, oky
[18:56] <Kiicki> Bashing-om I just deleted the default keyrings once again as before and it seems like it's gone now. Which is good but also weird how the exact same thing works now and not before
[18:56] <Ubuntu_man> #EriC^^i am thinking of using ZFS
[18:56] <ponyrider> Peanut: wow look... something about lightdm http://askubuntu.com/questions/34657/how-to-make-x-org-listen-to-remote-connections-on-port-6000
[18:57] <ducasse> Ubuntu_man: you know you can't use zfs for your root fs, right?
[18:58] <Peanut> ponyrider: That's for Ubuntu 10.10. I've tried that already. I'm running 16.10, but have been unable to find a link that shows the solution to how this is done on 16.10.
[18:58] <Ubuntu_man> No i am not aware about it? please give your views on using Btrfs
[18:58] <ducasse> Ubuntu_man: views?
[18:59] <Oer> !btrfs
[18:59] <Ubuntu_man> is any one running Btrfs?
[18:59] <Oer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[19:00] <ponyrider> Peanut: you enable xdmcp?
[19:00] <Oer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XFS also not recommended
[19:00] <ducasse> Ubuntu_man: i am, but only for the root fs on my laptop + desktop, i don't use it for 'real' data. stick with ext4 unless you have a good reason not to.
[19:01] <k1l_> Ubuntu_man: what is the issue when the spcialists would be here?
[19:01] <k1l_> (that is not how irc channels work :/ )
[19:02] <Oer> enough info to make a decission, i guess, Ubuntu_man
[19:02] <Ubuntu_man> i will go with EXT4 then
[19:03] <k1l_> if you dont know why you want another filesystem, ext4 is still a good filesystem
[19:03] <nilson> moin bin on
[19:04] <Ubuntu_man> i have mounted  256GB under / as mount point
[19:04] <k1l_> nilson: this is the english channel. for german you can /join #ubuntu-de
[19:04] <Ubuntu_man> will then proceed for installation gentlemen
[19:04] <Oer> :-)
[19:05] <nilson> i man ok
[19:06] <Ubuntu_man> ??
[19:07] <nilson> watig tuing man
[19:07] <chadwin> Good afternoon everyone
[19:07] <Ubuntu_man> see you on the otherside gentlemen
[19:07] <Ubuntu_man> Good afternoon chadwin
[19:07] <nilson> jo gut i man is out
[19:08] <nilson> nix los
[19:10] <Saturn2888> Anyone know why I'm getting this MySQL error when starting it after upgrading to 16.04? http://pastebin.com/8jexdD1h
[19:17] <remon1496> So, i got a problem with Ubuntu using multiple screens using a Nvidia GTX960 on the latest drivers. Anyone else experienced this issue?
[19:17] <remon1496> 16.04
[19:18] <bekks> !ask | remon1496
[19:18] <Bashing-om> Saturn2888: Have you seen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.7 ?
[19:18] <Saturn2888> Yeah. Was there  something special in here?
[19:18] <galg> hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Gnome; however, if I boot from the stick, I only get a black screen; if I add "nouveau.modeset=0" to the boot option, still a black screen; with "nomodeset", it's stuck at "[OK] Started Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service." ; is there anything I could do to make it boot?
[19:19] <remon1496> ubottu: thank you, i will
[19:19] <Bashing-om> Saturn2888: Many times you must re-adjust the config files when moving from upstart .
[19:20] <ponyrider> galg: try making the usb again
[19:22] <Saturn2888> Bashing-om: I removed MySQL and installed MariaDB. It has its own config and that didn't fix it either.
[19:22] <Saturn2888> Same error on both
[19:23] <bekks> Which error in particular?
[19:28] <Saturn2888> bekks: http://pastebin.com/8jexdD1h
[19:31] <Saturn2888> Looks like Apache's not working either. This might be a larger problem
[19:32] <k1l_> Saturn2888: as you can see in your paste, the important errormessages are cut off.
[19:32] <Saturn2888> How so?
[19:32] <k1l_> Saturn2888: "service mysql status | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:32] <k1l_> Saturn2888: did you look at your paste and the errormessages once?
[19:32] <Saturn2888> http://termbin.com/4gbh
[19:34] <Saturn2888> k1l_: http://termbin.com/py81 <- also got this when starting Apache
[19:34] <k1l_> * The apache2 configtest failed.
[19:34] <Saturn2888> Looks like there's a syntax error in one of the files.
[19:34] <Saturn2888> Strange. Maybe it happened in the upgrade.
[19:36] <k1l_> Saturn2888: looks like your sentora software is not ready for php7
[19:36] <Saturn2888> I didn't even know it was running. In fact, I swear I removed it a year ago
[19:38] <Saturn2888> Is there a way to point apache at the /etc/apache2 folder?
[19:38] <bekks> Saturn2888: Did you finally check the mysql logs?
[19:38] <Saturn2888> I had been checking them.
[19:39] <Saturn2888> http://termbin.com/czkr
[19:39] <bekks> Saturn2888: And what do they tell you about mysql not starting?
[19:40] <Saturn2888> usually it errors after this line "Server socket created on IP: '<IP_ADDRESS>'." and says it doesn't have permission to create the socket
[19:40] <bekks> So check the permissions of the socket path, etc.
[19:41] <bekks> Can you pastebin that log, please?
[19:41] <Saturn2888> yeah
[19:43] <stan_man_can> Whats the best way to install the official NVIDIA video card drivers?
[19:43] <stan_man_can> Dwonload and install from their site?
[19:43] <k1l_> stan_man_can: ubuntu ships nvidia drivers
[19:43] <Saturn2888> bekks: http://pastebin.com/4JAE0ArH
[19:44] <stan_man_can> k1l_: so when i do a fresh 16.04.2 install it will come with the best drivers for gaming and what not? i don’t have to do anything else?
[19:44] <k1l_> stan_man_can: look at system-settings > software&update > last tab
[19:44] <stan_man_can> k1l_: or do i have to check that “install third party drivers” box while installing?
[19:45] <bekks> Saturn2888: Looks like you have total mess there. You are mixing mysql and mariadb, AND versions 5.6 and 5.7
[19:45] <k1l_> stan_man_can: no, ubuntu is not allowed to install with the drivers. the user needs to install them "manually". but they are included in the ubuntu repos, so its easy to install
[19:45] <Bashing-om> stan_man_can: Proprietary nVidia drivers will be ofered in " Addition Drivers " .
[19:45] <k1l_> stan_man_can: i explained you exactly where to install the drivers
[19:45] <stan_man_can> thanks all
[19:45] <Saturn2888> bekks: I can go back to mysql and remove maria. Doesn't matter so long as it works. I switched to Maria today to see if that'd fix my issue w/ MySQL not starting
[19:45] <stan_man_can> k1l_: just wasn’t sure if they would be available there if i didn’dt check that box off
[19:46] <stan_man_can> it’s kinda ominous and doesn’t really give a recomendation if you should check it or not
[19:46] <bekks> Saturn2888: you have to remove both, all traces of them, and then install one of them again, cleanly.
[19:46] <Saturn2888> k
[19:46] <bekks> Saturn2888: The issue is: you are mixing mysql/mariadb and their versions.
[19:47] <Saturn2888> I swear I removed mysql-server before installing mariadb-server
[19:47] <Saturn2888> Are there more packages to remove?
[19:47] <cymo> hello guys, i just ran a systemctl status check, and got a return that it is degraded with two units failed. I was wondering if you could help me figure out how to fix this
[19:48] <theorem> "units failed" ?
[19:48] <bekks> Saturn2888: sure. Remove all the mysql libs and client packages, as well as the mariadb packages, too.
[19:49] <theorem> cymo: if these are HDD< then you should swap the drives with good ones.
[19:49] <cymo> https://hastebin.com/ugiqaboray.hs
[19:49] <cymo> no this is on a ssd
[19:50] <theorem> that paste does not show what's wrong
[19:50] <ubuntu-mate> hy ist wer?
[19:50] <bekks> !de | ubuntu-mate
[19:50] <cymo> it doesn't? how do I get it to show?
[19:51] <cymo> is the "state: degraded" even something I need do something about? everything is running fine as far as I can tell
[19:51] <thrmo> what kernel version is 17.04 gonna use?
[19:51] <k1l_> thrmo: 4.10
[19:51] <thrmo> ty k1l_
[19:52] <k1l_> thrmo: but the 4.10 will contain some backports and other packages
[19:52] <Saturn2888> bekks: I think I did it. How can I verify those are gone?
[19:53] <bekks> Saturn2888: By checking your installed packages?
[19:54] <Saturn2888> "~# mysql -bash: /usr/bin/mysql: No such file or directory" Is that good enough?
[19:54] <Saturn2888> I don't know how to check what's installed and what isn't
[19:55] <Saturn2888> Found it. dpkg -l
[19:55] <bekks> Saturn2888: dpkg -l | grep mysql and dpkg -l | grep maria
[19:56] <Saturn2888> bekks: Yeah, did those. There are some showing up, but doing an apt-get remove doesn't work. Says they're not installed. Things like mysql-common, mariadb-server-10.0 etc
[19:57] <bekks> Saturn2888: Define "doesnt work".
[19:57] <akash__> +zi
[19:57] <bekks> Saturn2888: Pastebin the full command, along with its full output please.
[19:57] <Saturn2888> says they're not installed
[19:57] <Saturn2888> got it
[19:58] <Saturn2888> bekks: http://pastebin.com/rnBRimjc
[19:58] <bekks> Saturn2888: as can be seen those packages arent installed anymore, but their config files still exist. you need to purge those packages.
[20:02] <Saturn2888> bekks: ok, they're gone
[20:05] <Saturn2888> bekks: So I can install mysql or mariadb now right? Any recommendation?
[20:05] <bekks> Saturn2888: Personal preference :)
[20:06] <Saturn2888> bekks: I backed up my MySQL db (couldn't actually export it it because it wouldn't load), so I'll probably just go with MySQL again bc I'll have a better chance getting this to work.
[20:06] <bekks> Saturn2888: How did you back it up, when you were unable to start it?
[20:07] <Saturn2888> tar'd up all the files in one of the directories.
[20:07] <Saturn2888> It had all the tables and everything in some weird file normal.
[20:07] <Saturn2888> file format*
[20:07] <bekks> Then you have to install the exact same version you had before your crash.
[20:08] <bekks> Which isnt possible, after you upgrade.
[20:08] <Saturn2888> Oh really? Why's that?
[20:08] <bekks> because those data files are depending on the database version being used.
[20:08] <DawnTreader777> Hello All, I wonder if any one can help a Ubuntu newbie running 10.04 LTS. I am trying to copy some files from the hard drive to my windows machine in preparation of installing the latest Ubuntu on the hard drive. I don't want to take chances with the data so I want to copy it to my windows machine.
[20:11] <Oer> DawnTreader777, so what is the issue ?
[20:11] <DawnTreader777> the problem is that when I use the sharing options to give access it gives me an error
[20:11] <Oer> DawnTreader777, ah, you cannot install the needed packages?
[20:11] <DawnTreader777> net usershare returned error 255: net usershare add: share name is already a valid system user name...
[20:12] <Oer> oh..
[20:12] <DawnTreader777> ok that was not the same error as last night...
[20:12] <DawnTreader777> I am adding characters to the share name
[20:12] <DawnTreader777> oh kay... now it doesn't give me an error
[20:14] <stan_man_can> super strange, same installation media behaves different on two computers
[20:14] <DawnTreader777> now I see the computer in the network on my windows machine, but I cannot access the share
[20:14] <stan_man_can> on one computer it just installs no problem, on my other computer it’s telling me that no root file system is defined and doesn’t auto partition my drive
[20:15] <k1l_> stan_man_can: so you checked manual install and didnt choose on partition for / ?
[20:15] <stan_man_can> k1l_: i didn’t have an option to select manual install
[20:15] <Saturn2888> bekks: same issue after installing MySQL 5.6
[20:16] <k1l_> *manual partitioning
[20:16] <Saturn2888> dpkg is showing the right stuff though.
[20:16] <stan_man_can> k1l_: don’t have that either
[20:16] <Oer> stan_man_can, see https://superuser.com/questions/790342/cant-install-ubuntu-14-04-because-it-says-root-file-system-is-not-defined ( same for 16.04 )
[20:16] <bekks> Saturn2888: Show it to us too, in pastebins.
[20:16] <Saturn2888> bekks: and Apache won't start either :/. Man, just not my day.
[20:18] <ioria> DawnTreader777, using a 10.04 samba version with an updated win machine ? idk it'll work
[20:18] <stan_man_can> k1l_: It goes from Welcome screen with the language select, “continue” takes you to the preparitng to install page where you can check off download updates while installing, and install third party software for graphics, then next page is installation t ype and it’s just the interface to define your own partitions,
[20:18] <k1l_> stan_man_can: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[20:18] <stan_man_can> 16.04.2
[20:18] <DawnTreader777> now last night when I was trying to get things to work there was an error telling me that samba wasn't running...
[20:18] <stan_man_can> wait maybe it’s not recognizing my hard drive give me a minute
[20:19] <Saturn2888> bekks: http://pastebin.com/X5MQq9Tu
[20:19] <k1l_> stan_man_can: you can start the "try ubuntu" and have a live desktop and you can start the installer app from there
[20:19] <stan_man_can> yeah that was it my bios didn’t recognize my hard drive
[20:19] <DawnTreader777> ok, try this another way, is there a command that would allow me to force copy everything in the home folder to a second hard drive that is partitioned NTFS?
[20:19] <bekks> Saturn2888: And did you have Mysql 5.6.16 installed before?
[20:20] <ioria> DawnTreader777,  ps -A | grep smbd
[20:20] <DawnTreader777> I tried copying the 2 folders in the home folder to the NTFS drive
[20:20] <Saturn2888> I had a 5.6 version yes. Pretty sure about that. I was on the latest 14.04 until today.
[20:20] <DawnTreader777> but it crapped out after 100mb of the 306GB in the folder
[20:21] <DawnTreader777> ioria: I do that in the terminal right?
[20:21] <ioria> DawnTreader777,  better... sudo /etc/init.d/smbd status
[20:23] <DawnTreader777> "Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service smbd status"
[20:24] <ioria> DawnTreader777,  ok, do it
[20:24] <ioria> DawnTreader777,  sudo service smbd status
[20:24] <DawnTreader777> "since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, you may also use the status(8) utility, e.g. status smbd..."
[20:24] <DawnTreader777> ok
[20:25] <DawnTreader777> smbd start/running, process 799
[20:25] <ioria> DawnTreader777,  are you really on 10.04 ?
[20:25] <DawnTreader777> so you figure that window10 and this version of Ubuntu are no compatible?
[20:25] <DawnTreader777> yes
[20:26] <DawnTreader777> this machine has been sitting for a while unused
[20:26] <DawnTreader777> is there a command that would allow me to force copy everything in the home folder to a second hard drive that is partitioned NTFS?
[20:27] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   cat /etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:28] <DawnTreader777> ok... besides showing me the insides of the smb file, what does that do?
[20:28] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   so, it's not another machine ? it's the same machine ?
[20:28] <DawnTreader777> I have placed a second hard drive in the machine to try to copy things of the Ubuntu drive
[20:29] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   so, why do you need samba ?
[20:31] <csulok> hey guys :)
[20:31] <DawnTreader777> sorry I crashed...
[20:31] <csulok> is there anybody here who has kaby lake igp?
[20:32] <bekks> !ask | csulok
[20:32] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   so, why do you need samba  if you can mount the 2° hd and copy the files over ?
[20:33] <Saturn2888> bekks: http://pastebin.com/X5MQq9Tu Logs
[20:33] <DawnTreader777> because it stopped copying after it did around 100mb of the 306GB that I need to move out
[20:33] <csulok> ubottu ok, sry : so: my problem is that i have this G4560 7th gen pentium and using the igp with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS... but it crashes every 2-3 hours... is there any fix for it?
[20:34] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   how did you format the 2° hd ?  and paste sudo parted -l
[20:34] <bekks> Saturn2888: See line 43. Your installation is horribly broken.
[20:34] <k1l_> DawnTreader777: you dont need samba if you copy from same disks in the same computer
[20:34] <DawnTreader777> i am having trouble getting the files out of this Ubuntu machine
[20:34] <csulok> !patience
[20:34] <DawnTreader777> i formatted the second drive on my windows machine
[20:34] <shadaloo> my apt-get update isn't connecting over ip6
[20:35] <shadaloo> is there a way to force update with ip4
[20:35] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   please, paste sudo parted -l
[20:35] <DawnTreader777> should i format the drive in Ubuntu and then copy over?
[20:35] <k1l_> shadaloo: yes
[20:35] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:35] <DawnTreader777> is that an L or i or 1?
[20:36] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   elle
[20:36] <k1l_> shadaloo: sudo apt -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update
[20:37] <foodSurprise> lets say i want to run a webserver
[20:37] <foodSurprise> would the fastest configuration be to load the HD to ram
[20:37] <shadaloo> k1l_: not quite
[20:37] <k1l_> shadaloo: ?
[20:38] <tilaioe> hi
[20:38] <DawnTreader777> oh
[20:38] <DawnTreader777> nice...
[20:38] <shadaloo> k1l_: i just tried that syntax and it gave me run options
[20:38] <tilaioe> is there a site, where I can do linux without installing it?
[20:38] <shadaloo> tilaioe: no
[20:38] <shadaloo> tilaioe: run the linux kernel
[20:38] <k1l_> tilaioe: you can make a ubuntu usb and test it
[20:38] <bekks> tilaioe: Download a live CD and give it a go.
[20:38] <DawnTreader777> ioria: it showed me the 2 drives and the partitions on each
[20:39] <k1l_> shadaloo: i dont understand you. please put all the output into a pastebin and show it here
[20:39] <Bashing-om> tilaioe: Desktop installers have the "try ubuntu" mode .
[20:39] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   can you paste the url here ?
[20:39] <DawnTreader777> url?
[20:40] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:40] <DawnTreader777> i know what URL means, but that command did nothing...
[20:40] <shadaloo> k1l_: it's sudo apt-get, that syntax doesn't work with apt alone
[20:41] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:42] <DawnTreader777> seriously, that command, sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999, is doing nothing
[20:43] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   ok, paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com then
[20:44] <DawnTreader777> which for the sudo parted -l ? or the sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999?
[20:44] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   the first
[20:45] <DawnTreader777> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24211131/
[20:46] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   ok,  it's mounted where ? under /mnt ?   paste 'mount' command
[20:47] <DawnTreader777> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24211148/
[20:48] <tilaioe> tour.ubuntu.com I installed blender--but can't open it? why?
[20:48] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   ls /media/Neven
[20:48] <k1l_> tilaioe: that is not going to work like you want.
[20:48] <DawnTreader777> yeah
[20:48] <k1l_> tilaioe: use a live-usb or live-dvd (and that still will be slow with blender)
[20:49] <DawnTreader777> it looks like a separate drive just like windows file explorer would show it...
[20:50] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   your 2° is mounted under /media/Neven/something so you can  sudo rsync -avx /home/  /media/Neven/something
[20:51] <DawnTreader777> ah
[20:52] <DawnTreader777> does that something have to already exist or would it create the folder...
[20:52] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   ls /media/Neven
[20:55] <DawnTreader777> ok, that looks like it is working...
[20:55] <DawnTreader777> there was one file or folder that it said something about permissions denied kind of thing...
[20:55] <DawnTreader777> but everything seems to be syncing...
[20:56] <DawnTreader777> and i spoke to soon
[20:57] <DawnTreader777> some files/attrs were not transferred (See previous errors) (Code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7]
[20:58] <DawnTreader777> i cant even go see what the error is because it is too far back in the screen lines buffer...
[20:58] <bekks> So try again.
[20:59] <bekks> And you will them again.
[20:59] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   yes, because on ntfs there are no permissions
[20:59] <DawnTreader777> sent<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes  received 84018 bytes  11821025.94 bytes/sec
[20:59] <DawnTreader777> total size is<PHONE_NUMBER>38  speedup is 181.53
[20:59] <DawnTreader777> oh
[20:59] <DawnTreader777> so
[20:59] <DawnTreader777> what do i do to fix this?
[21:00] <bekks> DawnTreader777: To fix what?
[21:00] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   what's the use of that backup ?
[21:00] <DawnTreader777> i am trying to get all the family pictures and music and stuff off that Ubuntu install
[21:01] <bekks> DawnTreader777: And which filesystem are you using on your backup drive?
[21:01] <ioria> DawnTreader777,  so you don't need your home, just the media files
[21:01] <ioria> DawnTreader777,  put them in one folder and copy to the 2° drive
[21:05] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   cp -R   myfolder/*  /media/Neven/something
[21:05] <DawnTreader777> could it be crapping out because i used this with wine?
[21:05] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   wine with what ?
[21:05] <DawnTreader777> on this Ubuntu machine...
[21:06] <ioria> DawnTreader777,   id think so
[21:07] <DawnTreader777> yeah i remember now i had set up so that widnows XP folders like my documents and stuff were linked to folders like home/chris/ and so on...
[21:13] <OnTheLake> help
[21:15] <PipeItToDevNull>  That is descriptive
[21:19] <ninjah> I just installed Apache on Ubuntu 16.04. I'm trying to get it to display an xml file. So far all I get is a blank page. Is there something I need to do for Apache to display xml files?
[21:20] <nudoge> what is the error ninjah?
[21:20] <DawnTreader777> i think it copied everything...
[21:21] <DawnTreader777> or corrected an error and now everything that wasn't showing in the copied folder is now showing...
[21:21] <DawnTreader777> going to verify
[21:23] <ninjah> no error
[21:23] <ninjah> just a blank page
[21:23] <ninjah> I'm trying to take the xml file generated by an nmap scan and dump it into Apache so I can see it
[21:23] <ninjah> No luck so far
[21:24] <gigoplast__> hi
[21:25] <nudoge> ninjah: here is my setup
[21:25] <nudoge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24211379/
[21:25] <gigoplast__> pls i need to find channel who discast bitcoin full node
[21:25] <gigoplast__> have problenm on my nodejs
[21:25] <k1l_> !alis | gigoplast__
[21:26] <ninjah> nudoge: Checking that out
[21:26] <hiro_> So, just tried to install Nvidia's CUDA drivers for my graphics card and something went very wrong. I got an error message that seemed to imply that some important kernal modules were missing. I rebooted my computer and immediately got hit by a "system is running in low-graphics mode" error. Now I can't get the desktop to load at all. I've tried to uninstall cuda and nvidia drivers and reinstall the desktop, but nothing seems to work.
[21:26] <gigoplast__> freenode channel empty
[21:26] <gigoplast__> nodejs pls
[21:27] <k1l_> gigoplast__: use the alis bot like ubottu told you
[21:28] <geirha> gigoplast__: #Node.js
[21:28] <gigoplast__> thx
[21:29] <hiro_> Does anyone know how I could get my desktop back? Thx :)
[21:29] <gigoplast__> graphic pb
[21:33] <nudoge> hiro_: what is wrong with it?
[21:38] <hiro_> nudoge: I installed some cuda drivers and i think it wrecked some config. Now it only starts in "low-graphics mode", which means I can't access the desktop.
[21:39] <nudoge> ewww,  did you try single-user/recovery mode and uninstall the drivers?
[21:41] <Oer> hiro_, did you install linux-headers-generic ?
[21:43] <hiro_> I can't get into recovery mode. I think I can get into a terminal again. I'll try to install linux-headers-generic
[21:44] <Oer> ctrl alt F1, login, etc
[21:44] <Oer> ctrl alt F7 to return to gui login
[21:46] <hiro_> (installing ...)
[21:47] <Oer> I am not sure, maybe you do need a reboot after that ..
[21:48] <hiro_> one strange message: "unable to find ram disk that I know how to handle". gonna try a reboot ...
[21:49] <Oer> maybe you had to install headers before installing the cuda package?
[21:50] <hiro_> yeah, something is defnitely not right
[21:51] <hiro_> still not getting through to the desktop
[21:51] <hiro_> just get a blak screen
[21:51] <ppf> hiro_: reinstall the driver
[21:52] <hiro_> ppf: which one?
[21:53] <ppf> nvidia
[21:55] <hiro_> still getting the blank screen of death
[21:55] <ppf> yes, boot into recovery and reinstall the driver
[21:56] <nudoge> hiro_: are the tty's alive?  try crtl+alt+f2
[21:56] <hiro_> they are
[21:57] <ppf> fair enough, then reinstall the driver in the running system
[21:57] <hiro_> can't find recovery mode, think it's some sort of dell base weirdness
[21:57] <ppf> it's got nothing to do with the manufacturer
[21:57] <nudoge> I believe its hold shift during boot to bring up the grub menu
[21:57] <ppf> either way, if your system is booting, fair enough
[21:58] <hiro_> installed the headers and nvidia-current but doesn't seem to work
[21:58] <Ben64> hiro_: what exactly did you do
[21:58] <hiro_> although I no longer get a warning about "low graphics mode"
[21:58] <hiro_> just a blank screen
[21:59] <hiro_> Ben64: I installed the cuda drivers for my nvidia GPU
[21:59] <ppf> check dmesg for errors
[21:59] <ppf> and paste those
[21:59] <hiro_> I must have missed some setup bc it complained about missing modules and since then II can't get to the desktop
[22:00] <Bashing-om> hiro_: nvidia-current is the 340 version driver, not likely the correct driver for your card .
[22:00] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-current xenial
[22:00] <Spodermen_sweg> hey guys, I've been trying to recover my data from an encrypted (k)ubuntu  partition, but nothing seems to work... what's the standard way to do this? I've tried using ecryptfs-recover-private but that doesn't seem to work at all.
[22:00] <Ben64> hiro_: that isn't very exact
[22:00] <hiro_> Bashing-om: I'm on the GeForce GT 750M
[22:01] <Spodermen_sweg> Also, would it be quicker to try reinstalling grub and trying to boot like that?
[22:01] <hiro_> Ben64: Sorry
[22:02] <ppf> Spodermen_sweg: how is the disk encryptet?
[22:02] <ppf> s,t,d
[22:02] <DawnTreader777> how do i do this:
[22:02] <DawnTreader777> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /media/Neven/chris as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own.
[22:02] <DawnTreader777> 	Ask the administrator to add the line "usershare owner only = false"
[22:02] <DawnTreader777> 	to the [global] section of the smb.conf to allow this.
[22:03] <hiro_> Ben64: I followed the instructions here: https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads for  x86 / ubuntu / 16.04 / .deb local
[22:03] <DawnTreader777> when i open the smb.conf it opens as readonly
[22:03] <Spodermen_sweg> you mean how did I encrypt it originally? I did it while installing kubuntu (the option that encrypts the home dir)
[22:03] <hiro_> Ben64: All the steps
[22:04] <Spodermen_sweg> I was young and foolish back then ;'(
[22:04] <hiro_> Ben64: Then I rebooted my computer and I got the "low graphis mode error"
[22:04] <Bashing-om> hiro_: Uh huh, : http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us , Ya want the late(er) version driver . Try as ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Let the system choose what it thinks best from what it has to choose from .
[22:04] <ppf> Spodermen_sweg: why did  ecryptfs-recover-private not work for you?
[22:05] <hiro_> Bashing-om: thx, Ill give that a try
[22:08] <Spodermen_sweg> ppf: I tried it again now and it returned "find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied"...
[22:08] <ppf> using sudo?
[22:09] <Spodermen_sweg> yeah...does it matter that I'm using a live usb to do this?
[22:10] <hiro_> Bashing-om: "Warning: missing /lib/modules/4.4.0-38-generic"
[22:10] <hiro_> These look like the errors I got when I installed cuda
[22:11] <hiro_> A few other related depmod errors too
[22:13] <DawnTreader777> "sudo rsync -avx" what does the -avx do?
[22:13] <DawnTreader777> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[22:13] <ppf> DawnTreader777: man rsync
[22:13] <Bashing-om> hiro_: Looks like the kernels install(s) are broke . Got to fix that as a 1st priority . start: pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[22:13] <ppf> Spodermen_sweg: is that a fatal error?
[22:13] <ppf> or does it continue afterwards?
[22:13] <DawnTreader777> i see some options there, but there is no "a" in the list
[22:14] <Spodermen_sweg> ppf: yea, there is no further output (however, it does not explicitly say there is an error)
[22:14] <DawnTreader777> and the rsync is still failing...
[22:14] <DawnTreader777> :(
[22:15] <ppf> DawnTreader777: -a is in there
[22:15] <ppf> it's short for -archive
[22:16] <compdoc> -a preserves the date and times, and permissions of the files
[22:16] <hiro_> Bashing-om: unfortunately pasting might be impossible bc all I've got on my other laptop is a tty shell - I can't get the output to a browser
[22:17] <DawnTreader777> oh
[22:17] <ppf> hiro_: pipe it into pastebin
[22:17] <DawnTreader777> there it is... duh
[22:18] <hh2010> if i delete a UFW rule, does it automatically block that port?
[22:18] <ppf> *pastebinit