[08:17] <liable> femv: these cards are actually part of your laptop, not ones you can plug in?
[08:18] <femv> liable, they are part of my laptop... they are built in
[08:18] <IIIEars> Ubuntu is so good i think i'll burn a copy for my aged mother - her redmond OS is always infested with something. - reimaging her HD is a pain.
[08:18] <liable> femv: what do you mean by disable the cards
[08:18] <chris_d> IIIEars: http://www.myjavaserver.com/~mike001/ubuntu/#firestarter
[08:18] <Xappe> IIIEars: I would go for shorewall. it's not gui but wonderful :)
[08:19] <femv> deactivating them and unmark the this card is configured
[08:19] <liable> femv: well just disable dhcp on both unless you need to use it
[08:20] <femv> liable is there anyway i can enable them when gnome loads up ... and disable them when it shuts down?
[08:20] <IIIEars> Very nice! - solid information and a clear concise page layout.
[08:21] <liable> femv: do you need them both started?
[08:21] <femv> liable, no... the wireless most of the time
[08:21] <liable> femv: how do you connect to the internet
[08:21] <ups> IIIEars: if you enable Universe in synaptic, you can install firestarter from there
[08:22] <membreya> IIIEars: if you want the proper guide go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:22] <liable> femv: well disable the nic if you dont need it
[08:22] <liable> femv: eth0
[08:22] <femv> liable, thats what i did
[08:22] <femv> liable: but what can i do with wlan
[08:24] <IIIEars> lol - just spent 4 hours with the latest FreeBSD -pant- i'm tired - do ya think synaptic could find streamtuner for me? - (grin
[08:24] <liable> femv: dunno, if you need it then, nothing, sounds strange, I gottta go, keep googling, there is an answer out there:)
[08:24] <GNAM> no-stop escalation of kubuntu on distrowatch
[08:24] <GNAM> auaua
[08:25] <membreya> IIIEars: apt-cache search streamtuner
[08:25] <membreya> it's there
[08:25] <membreya> so just do a sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[08:25] <tweek> hello, can someone help me with a problem?
[08:26] <femv> liable, thanks!
[08:26] <nickrud> tweek: some one will try ;)
[08:26] <IIIEars> i am going to bring up a root console and type in all my old .config commands just for old times sake. - with Ubuntu they will soon be a faded memory.
[08:27] <tweek> im running amd64 bit, and i hear a sound at the login screen, but other than that my sound doesnt work :\
[08:27] <Amaranth> tweek: Odd.
[08:27] <Amaranth> tweek: Is the volume up? :)
[08:27] <tweek> yup
[08:27] <Amaranth> tweek: Open the volume control app, not just that one slider.
[08:27] <tweek> and my games dont detect it
[08:27] <membreya> tweek: when you try and start a sound is dmesg or .xsession-errors producing any problems?
[08:28] <tweek> no
[08:28] <membreya> what type of sound card do you have tweek ?
[08:28] <tweek> onboard, i dont know particularly
[08:28] <tweek> it ran fine on the older version of ubuntu
[08:28] <Amaranth> tweek: ok, try running aumix
[08:28] <Amaranth> if you don't have it apt-get it
[08:28] <akk> tweek: We're seeing the same thing, with a pci sound card.
[08:28] <tweek> its onboard
[08:29] <ssam> you can turn off the sound at the login screen in the login preference panel under accessability it think. then at least you'll have consistent sound
[08:29] <membreya> tweek: from a terminal type in lsmod |grep snd
[08:29] <membreya> ssam: not necessary
[08:29] <tweek> ok
[08:29] <tweek> want the output?
[08:30] <membreya> no...but there should be something there saying codec?
[08:30] <tweek> snd_ac97_codec?
[08:30] <IIIEars> I just can't believe this - all of the hardware was detected spot on not a mis-step pardon me while i fall outta my chair.
[08:30] <membreya> tweek: ok so you have an ac97 based card.
[08:31] <dyce> hello
[08:31] <PacoBCN> hi ubuntuers
[08:31] <Quest-Master> hey
[08:31] <dyce> how do i set up wlan?
[08:31] <membreya> tweek: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/.asoundrc, copy and paste that text to a file called .asoundrc in your home directory
[08:31] <dyce> im a ubuntu noob
[08:32] <ssam> dyce http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[08:32] <dyce> thanks
[08:32] <DocUb> :)
[08:32] <tweek> i dont have .asoundrc
[08:32] <tweek> want me create it?
[08:32] <membreya> tweek: .....read what I wrote
[08:32] <tweek> o, sorry :P
[08:33] <membreya> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/.asoundrc  <--visit that link
[08:33] <IIIEars> even hot plug - caught myself unplugging devices and plugging them back in. - nothing froze. - is this really Debian? - c'mon you can tell me the truth.
[08:33] <tweek> ok, home is "/"?
[08:33] <tweek> or /home?
[08:33] <soccer45202> does anyone have experience with the ivtv driver?
[08:33] <membreya> tweek: no ...home as in ~tweek or /home/tweek
[08:33] <tweek> ok
[08:33] <tweek> :)
[08:34] <akk> Amaranth: aumix shows reasonable volume levels (71) on this machine.
[08:34] <Obsidians> I downloaded xMule, and when I run ./configure, it says "checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables". In fact, all the ./configures I've run have thrown weird errors, usually about gcc or g++. What's going on?
[08:34] <IIIEars> i have an "al in wonder card" hould i push my luck?
[08:34] <akk> Amaranth: and play sound.wav takes a really long time.  Maybe gnome is hogging the sound card?
[08:34] <membreya> tweek: another good URL to go to is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo ...follow the instructions there
[08:34] <tweek> update automake
[08:34] <membreya> IIIEars: ati+linux = boooo!
[08:34] <tweek> Obsidians
[08:34] <Amaranth> akk: Kill esd and try playing something.
[08:34] <ups> Obsidians: do you have build-essential installed?
[08:34] <lsuactiafner> anyone here running ubuntu-5.04-install-amd64.iso living in rsa willing to compile me a new kernel with my config file since the ubuntu kernel doesnt work on my system?
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> alsamixer is also nice..
[08:35] <IIIEars> you're right? - just being facetious - lol
[08:35] <Amaranth> Obsidians: make sure you've installed the build-essential package
[08:35] <soccer45202> has anyone played around with mythtv and the IVTV drivers?
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> Obsidians : ./configure --help
[08:35] <tweek> brb.
[08:35] <GWoSDotOrgGuy> soccer45202: I have
[08:35] <membreya> soccer45202: best bet is to go to #mythtv-users
[08:35] <akk> Amaranth: That works.  So it's an esd problem.
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> Obsidians : also goto freshmeat.net search for the name of the program and check the dependacy list
[08:36] <soccer45202> membreya GWoSDotOrgGuy - I tried...no one is responding
[08:36] <IIIEars> gotta hurry with that mpeg4 encoder card - the new FCC ruling takes effect July 1st.
[08:36] <Amaranth> akk: Sounds like it.
[08:36] <sproingie> what ruling is that?
[08:36] <membreya> what FCC ruling?
[08:36] <Obsidians> Thanx, everyone! I'll try all those.
[08:36] <akk> Amaranth: So will disabling login sounds in gnome also turn off esd?
[08:36] <IIIEars> all tuners in all Hi-def devices will include a smart chip to protect content.
[08:37] <lsuactiafner> mplayerhq.com for info on fcc i believe..
[08:37] <sproingie> you mean the broadcast flag?
[08:37] <sproingie> that was struck down
[08:37] <Amaranth> akk: In System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector change it to use oss for the audiosink
[08:37] <sproingie> not that it would have ever been implemented, c.f. regionless dvd players
[08:37] <Amaranth> akk: I don't think so.
[08:37] <IIIEars> really? - hm, i missed that. happy it was.
[08:37] <sproingie> yep.  court struck it down
[08:38] <Obsidians> If Synaptic crashes, how do I allow apt-get to work? It says that it's locked, but I'm not sure what to unlock, or how to do it.
[08:38] <sproingie> not that the industry won't get it in through the backdoor
[08:38] <Amaranth> akk: Changing the output audio sink to oss and killing esd should make everything run more or less normal, but you'll probably have to kill esd each time you start a new session (login).
[08:38] <sproingie> but at least the fcc has no say
[08:38] <goron> How's Ubuntu update policy? Thus will I get updates for ever when I install Hoary? Or will I only get the bugfixes of that release?
[08:38] <nickrud> akk, Amaranth, system->preferences->sound has a checkbox for not starting the sound server (esd)
[08:38] <IIIEars> lol - i hope you are wrong just have a feeling that you aren't.
[08:38] <Amaranth> oh :)
[08:39] <goron> Obsidians: Remove some lock file. man apt will probably tell it to you.
[08:39] <akk> Amaranth, nickrud: Oh, NM, looks like he opted to uninstall esound, which will probably also work.
[08:40] <membreya> i prefer to just use DMIX to fix my sound problems :P
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> ok anyone here living in rsa, running a native 64 bit system willing to compile me a kernel with my own .config?
[08:40] <nickrud> akk: down the road, not using esd will mess with other sounds. what are you trying to play sounds with?
[08:40] <DocUb> lol
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> the ubuntu kernels dont work on my motherboard.
[08:40] <ups> goron: only security fixes and critical bug fixes i believe, no new stuff
[08:40] <akk> nickrud: play (from sox)
[08:40] <goron> ups: So, there's no Unstable equivalent?
[08:41] <membreya> goron: Breezy
[08:41] <sproingie> lsuactiafner: dunno what "living in rsa" means, but i could give it a whack.  need a specific version?
[08:41] <ups> goron: there is - breezy
[08:41] <nickrud> akk: I think play tries to ouput directly to hardware. try esddsp play <sound>
[08:41] <membreya> sproingie: south africa AFAIK
[08:41] <lsuactiafner> try alsaconf for sound...
[08:42] <lsuactiafner> sproingie : need kernel 2.6.11 and i will dcc the config file
[08:42] <sproingie> ah.  well i dont live in .za meself... dont see how that'd affect a kernel compile
[08:42] <Bazzi-> rsa = republic of south africa
[08:42] <Bazzi-> or is it not?
[08:42] <sproingie> lsuactiafner: what version is it for?
[08:42] <membreya> all i know is RSA sucks at cricket :P
[08:42] <dizzy> nickrud: akk: play doesn't work with esddsp
[08:42] <lsuactiafner> its for amd64 5.04
[08:42] <goron> ups: So with breezy I don't ever need to change /etc/apt/sources.lst?
[08:43] <nickrud> dizzy: bummer.
[08:43] <goron> ups: Or should I change it every six months?
[08:43] <ups> goron: you do, breezy will stabilize in 6 months
[08:43] <ups> goron: yes
[08:43] <sproingie> lsuactiafner: i have no clue what 5.04 refers to
[08:43] <lsuactiafner> sproingie : basically transfering the 1.5mb file will take longer if you are international since i got a 5k/s dailup
[08:43] <lsuactiafner> 5.04 refers to ubuntu..
[08:43] <nickrud> akk, so try aplay <sound>
[08:43] <sproingie> lsuactiafner: ow.  i may have to reboot soon, so that might not work
[08:43] <dizzy> akk: which sound format?
[08:44] <lsuactiafner> do you have a native 64 bit system?
[08:44] <Bazzi> brezzy will be 5.10 wont it?
[08:44] <akk> dizzy: .wav
[08:44] <Bazzi> breezy*
[08:44] <goron> ups: Well, in that case, I will deinstall Ubuntu again. I don't want to spend time with such useless details. And probably updating from one arch to another will kill the system anyway.
[08:44] <dizzy> akk: which sample rate?
[08:44] <akk> nickrud: I'll pass that along.  At this point esd has been killed and uninstalled, can't try immediately.
[08:44] <membreya> Bazzi: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/releases
[08:44] <ups> goron: what useless details?
[08:44] <akk> dizzy: Does it matter?  Everybody seems to be saying that play doesn't work with esd, period.
[08:45] <lsuactiafner> ok so can anyone running a native 64 bit system please compile me a kernel? i dont want to bother with cross-compiling from a 32bit system
[08:45] <Bazzi> oh. updated :)
[08:45] <nickrud> akk: aplay is from alsa, not esd. Should still be there
[08:45] <akk> nickrud: Even play works now that esd is no longer running.
[08:45] <lsuactiafner> i got a .config already ect.
[08:45] <dizzy> akk: if they are 44k you can pipe them to esd with esdcat
[08:45] <ups> goron: and you're only upgrading from one version of ubuntu to another, so why would that kill anything?
[08:46] <dyce> hello again
[08:46] <polaritius> umm can i get help inatalling bin files? i.e. java
[08:46] <DagaZ> I have problems with HAL in hoary.. anyone else has this? This is a fresh install and I have tried reinstalling HAL without any resolution
[08:46] <dizzy> akk: if not you can try to resample to 44k but the result is not always good
[08:46] <dyce> im running ubuntu on a slow laptop *400mhz, gnome takes alot of resources
[08:47] <akk> Apparently esd also interferes with tuxkart, so using a different "play" program won't solve the problem.
[08:47] <dyce> i hear xfce is good
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> dyce : install blackbox
[08:47] <dyce> ill look into blackbox
[08:47] <goron> ups: Well, it's the same as upgrading from testing to unstable in Debian. Now, imagine you don't update for a year. Chanches are pretty high some stuff will break. And I don't think Ubuntu knowledge is that high (compared to Debian). Also, I am not a real desktop user, more a workstation like user.
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> blackbox is very very minimal fast and gives you the same functionality as gnome
[08:48] <lsuactiafner> the menu will be in /usr/local/share/blackbox/menu
[08:48] <Bazzi> goron ubuntu and debian work closely together
[08:48] <thenuke> fluxbox is also minimal and fast and propably better than blackbox :D
[08:48] <Bazzi> goron if you want to stick with long living releases, you may as well use debiaan itself
[08:48] <Xebitx> in the ubuntu installer there is no option to use free space from another partition ...what can you do?
[08:48] <goron> Bazzi: Why do I see things on Slashdot mentioning they are not?
[08:48] <membreya> i still keep trying to tell people, just use DMIX :P
[08:48] <lsuactiafner> fluxbox got a stupid default font heh
[08:48] <polaritius> umm can i get help inatalling bin files? i.e. java
[08:48] <ups> goron: i believe the official support lasts for 18 months for each release, so you dont really need to update that much if it's an issue. you'll still get security fixes.
[08:49] <Bazzi> goron slashdot got some stuff mixed up.
[08:49] <thenuke> Xebitx: do some partition to that freespace
[08:49] <dyce> blackbox, fluxbox or DMIX?
[08:49] <lsuactiafner> Xebitx : mount the other paritition under /target/var
[08:49] <thenuke> with another os perhaps
[08:49] <ups> goron: as for knowledge, you should know that a lot of ubuntu devs are debian devs too
[08:49] <goron> Bazzi: They linked to an article with Ian himself expressing worries about incompatibilities.
[08:49] <lsuactiafner> then everything that will go to var will be on the other partion
[08:49] <Xebitx> thenuke: how?
[08:49] <membreya> I'll let some more "seasoned" people add their comments and opinions on DMIX
[08:49] <lsuactiafner> tho if you dont config /etc/fstab afterwards you will get shit on reboot
[08:50] <goron> ups: Yeah, I understood that company buys a lot of developers from Debian.
[08:50] <Bazzi> goron which is kinda bollox because its incompatibilities to sarge, and ubuntu is based off sid... :)
[08:50] <thenuke> Xebitx: you go and figure it out.
[08:50] <dyce> what works with ubuntu? the deb files does.... how bout the rpm file?
[08:50] <thenuke> I dont know about your other operating systems
[08:50] <Xebitx> I already tried with partion magic
[08:50] <thenuke> that should work
[08:50] <Xebitx> but it wont resize even though I have 13 Free
[08:51] <lsuactiafner> ppl, compile from source damnit, screw packages..
[08:51] <ups> goron: i dont think it's wise to believe absolutely everything that appears on slashdot ;)
[08:51] <Bazzi> goron it's rather a problem with debian itself, if they dont update their arch more regularly there will of course be incompatibilities
[08:51] <lsuactiafner> you can compile shit youself with -O3 --march you DO NOT want packages..
[08:51] <neme>  Trying to 'make menuconfig' and it says I need ncurses-devel
[08:51] <neme> E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel
[08:51] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, please watch the languages. You might also be looking for #gentoo
[08:52] <IIIEars> lol - my wife just asked me why my screen looks so much nice.  - had to tell her i gave up on BSD - lol
[08:52] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, make that language
[08:52] <IIIEars> *nicer
[08:52] <lsuactiafner> Burgundavia : i run slackware.. since the unbuntu 64bit kernel didnt include support for my sata drives..
[08:52] <goron> Bazzi: Well, the only thing I want is to have new packages, and without the hassle of changing my /etc/apt/sources.lst every x time.
[08:52] <membreya> neme: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[08:52] <ups> goron: ubuntu just synced from debian sid, and now they'll apply some polish and fixes, add some cool features and release the next version :)
[08:52] <Bazzi> goron every 6 months is ok if you want to have new stuff ;)
[08:53] <lsuactiafner> and now i need someone running a 64bit natve os to compile me a kernel for ubuntu
[08:53] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, that is fine, here in #ubuntu we promote use of the precompiled packages
[08:53] <neme> membreya, ty
[08:53] <dhonn> compile it your self -09999
[08:53] <ups> goron: ofcourse it's not as simple as i try to make it sound ;)
[08:53] <polaritius> umm can i get help inatalling bin files? i.e. java on ubuntu?
[08:54] <lsuactiafner> well if ubuntu developers would create more kernels and spend less time on packages more ppl will be able ro run the os...
[08:54] <femv> people what is the command to activate a network interface ???
[08:54] <mjr> femv, ifup interface
[08:54] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, what exactly is wrong. If you can duplicate it, please file a bug
[08:54] <lsuactiafner> 3 kernels to chose from during an install with no indication of what they do aint a good thing..
[08:54] <goron> Bazzi: Well, not quite.
[08:54] <Bazzi> goron b/c?
[08:54] <chavo> lsuactiafner, what are you smoking and or drinking?
[08:54] <Burgundavia> femv, make certain to add a sudo before that
[08:55] <dhonn> lsuactiafner: go to #ubuntu-devel
[08:55] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, then file a bug about it
[08:55] <dyce> im getting fluxbox
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> Burgundavia : the bug is.. <*>         Silicon Image chipset support aint selected
[08:55] <femv> ifup wlan0 would work ?
[08:55] <dyce> is it necessary to remove gnome?
[08:55] <dhonn> the developers are there
[08:55] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, I am not a dev, please file a bug
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> well ive already submitted a bug with the lilo installation
[08:55] <goron> Bazzi: "b/c"?
[08:56] <Bazzi> because
[08:56] <dyce> u can just say cuz
[08:56] <dyce> CUZ
[08:56] <Bazzi> no
[08:56] <Bazzi> that's aolbonic
[08:56] <dyce> oh
[08:56] <dyce> cus
[08:56] <dyce> ''ca's'
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> any developers here?
[08:57] <femv> is there anyplace i can put a command line to be executed at gnome startup and shutdown
[08:57] <femv> ??
[08:57] <RickD> Hello all, is it possible to upgrade to Ubuntu 5.04 from an older version just by typing apt-get dist-upgrade?, or do I need to download the new ISO?
[08:57] <dhonn> lsuactiafner, #ubuntu-devel
[08:57] <lsuactiafner> RickD : get the iso since if you need to reinstall again you will have an iso disk
[08:57] <hypno> femv you could write a script and add it in preferences->advanced->sessions
[08:57] <Burgundavia> RickD, nope, just update your repos
[08:57] <dyce> there is 5.1 and 5.04, isnt 5.1 higher in version than 5.04?
[08:57] <Burgundavia> RickD, change all instances of warty to hoary
[08:58] <dyce> it hsould be 5.14
[08:58] <Burgundavia> dyce, there is no 5.1
[08:58] <dyce> oh
[08:58] <Burgundavia> dyce, there is only 4.10 and 5.04
[08:58] <dyce> oops
[08:58] <dyce> lol
[08:58] <polaritius> umm can i get help inatalling bin files? i.e. java on ubuntu?
[08:58] <femv> hypno where is preferences -> advanced -> sessions ?
[08:58] <RickD> Burgundavia, so I need to change the instace from warty to hoary, and then do dist-upgrade?, or just upgrade?
[08:58] <Burgundavia> dyce, the number is 5<--current year. 04 <-- current month
[08:58] <dhonn> RickD, it is easy.  hold on
[08:58] <Burgundavia> RickD, dist-upgrade
[08:58] <ups> dyce: year.month [5.05]
[08:58] <dyce> i see
[08:58] <ups> oops
[08:58] <Bazzi> polaritius its on the ubuntu wiki
[08:58] <ups> 5.04
[08:58] <|QuaD-> i am looking for a blog script that i can use with the gnome-blog panel widget thingy, any suggestions?
[08:58] <Burgundavia> polaritius, www.ubuntguide.org
[08:58] <hypno> femv in the gnome menus somewhere
[08:58] <hypno> seek and ye shall find
[08:58] <tbird> but breezy is 5.10
[08:59] <Burgundavia> tbird, correct
[08:59] <dhonn> RickD:  http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#upgradewartytohoary
[08:59] <RickD> Burgun: thanks
[08:59] <dyce> ok
[08:59] <polaritius> burgundavia: ty so much
[08:59] <RickD> dyce: thanks dude
[08:59] <dyce> im putting fluxbox on my zen so i can put in on my ubuntu box
[08:59] <femv> hypno... i want to write a script to do this : ifup wlan0 how can i do that
[08:59] <dyce> brb
[09:00] <hypno> femv the best way to do that is to edit /etc/network/interfaces and add the line "auto wlan0"
[09:00] <markuman> someone has make debian packages with alien from source here?
[09:00] <dyce> do i use sh or rpm?
[09:01] <CarlK> "typical hoary install" - does it ask for a root pw?
[09:01] <femv> hypno, that is going to look for it at boot time.... thats not what i want.. i want the scrip to run when gnome starts
[09:01] <dyce> isnt sh universal?
[09:01] <akk> CarlK: Only in expert mode.
[09:01] <markuman> sh ? bash?
[09:01] <markuman> rpm = rethat?
[09:01] <|QuaD-> does anyone have gnomeblog working?
[09:01] <CarlK> ah.. I bet thats what "Mr Expert" did ;)
[09:01] <dyce> i dunno howto compile
[09:01] <dyce> do u have to compile .sh?
[09:02] <frank_> Does anyone use dvdauthor? Mine segfaults all the time
[09:02] <CarlK> In Expert mode, does it add the user to /etc/suduers?
[09:02] <markuman> dyce? are you trying to help me?
[09:02] <IIIEars> Is dd or partimage the best way to disk image Ubuntu?
[09:03] <Guga> glxgears-  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:03] <Guga> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[09:03] <dyce> no, cuz im a newb, i cant help experienced linux users
[09:03] <markuman> i have a tar.bz2 file - source code. and want to make a debian file
[09:03] <dyce> that doesnt seem right
[09:03] <Burgundavia> markuman, what areyou trying to do?
[09:03] <tbird> Markrian, alien packageneme.rpm it will automatically generate a .deb
[09:03] <markuman> from source code a debian package. i think alien can do it? right?
[09:03] <LinuxJones> Guga, did you follow the directions on the website for installing 3d support for your video card ?
[09:03] <IIIEars> alien - cool!
[09:04] <Burgundavia> markuman, it might already be in the repos, what are you looking for?
[09:04] <Guga> will do LinuxJones        link?
[09:04] <nickrud> markuman: look at the package checkinstall
[09:04] <goldfish> dyce: is it not sh blah.sh ?
[09:04] <frank_> anyone ever use dvdauthor?
[09:04] <femv> hypno how will the script look like
[09:05] <markuman> Burgundavia, alsa compile for a special soundcard. for that there are noch  repos.... and i have to configure it.
[09:05] <CarlK> frank_ - I have.
[09:05] <markuman> and than to build a debian package
[09:05] <markuman> but i don't know if it works
[09:05] <dyce> so i open console, and type in sh path><filename.sh?
[09:05] <Burgundavia> markuman, check install is your friend
[09:05] <markuman> hm
[09:05] <goldfish> dyce: well that's how i run .sh scripts.
[09:06] <dyce> ok ill keep that in mind
[09:06] <dyce> when installing
[09:06] <frank_> CarlK, and it works without segfaulting
[09:06] <markuman> but for general. how to make debian packages from source?
[09:06] <Burgundavia> markuman, is not that easy
[09:06] <blizah> how would i go about running something on a differant xserver than gnome runs on?
[09:06] <chtilinux> does anjuta exist as deb package? i don't find it
[09:06] <Burgundavia> markuman, look for the debian new maintainers guide
[09:06] <beggar> hi......how can I initialize a program automatically when I open gnome without prompt for the root pass?
[09:07] <CarlK> frank_ - it was about 6 monts ago on an FC2 box ;)
[09:07] <markuman> where i can found it? on debian page or ubuntu?
[09:07] <frank_> CarlK, ok
[09:07] <Burgundavia> chtilinux, it exists for hoary?
[09:07] <ups> markuman: there should be a package maint-guide
[09:07] <Burgundavia> markuman, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
[09:07] <markuman> ok thx !
[09:07] <cavediver> Anyone having trouble with ff crashing on certain sites ?
[09:07] <Burgundavia> cavediver, which sites?
[09:08] <frank_> CarlK, DO you know of any other program to create a dvd? I already have the mpeg2 file
[09:08] <chtilinux> i don't know, i 'll search
[09:08] <membreya> chtilinux: apt-cache search anjuta..it's definately there
[09:08] <nickrud> markuman: and after you've looked at it, you'll see why checkinstall if for us masses :)
[09:08] <cavediver> Burgundavia: Here for example:  http://www.aftonbladet.se/ettor/webb/26_normal.html
[09:09] <markuman> ok, thx a lot
[09:09] <cavediver> I use Breezy
[09:09] <Burgundavia> cavediver, doesn't crash here
[09:09] <cavediver> ok
[09:09] <cavediver> strange, are you using breezy ?
[09:09] <chtilinux> ok, i've found it
[09:09] <Burgundavia> cavediver, then you sir, are crazy (I am going to move to breezy after UDU)
[09:09] <mjr> hmm, where was the archive of old package versions?
[09:09] <cavediver> Burgundavia: :)
[09:09] <cavediver> UDU ?
[09:09] <Burgundavia> mjr, you can get at packages.ubuntu.com and search
[09:10] <CarlK> frank_ - not that doesn't eventually use dvdauthor ;)
[09:10] <CarlK> but hang on...
[09:10] <Burgundavia> udu = Ubuntudownunder, the next ubuntu development conference in aussie
[09:10] <cavediver> ok
[09:10] <LinuxJones> Guga, sorry was afk >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <CarlK> frank_ - check out http://home.tiscali.be/debie.roland/pgcedit
[09:10] <osmandemirhan> hi, are there offical ubuntu java package, if yes what is the package name?
[09:11] <CarlK> I don't know what exactly it does, but it might work for you
[09:11] <tbird> i use breezy too and it has been ok for me
[09:11] <cavediver> This is getting redicilous. I can't get tv-out ti work as I want.
[09:11] <tbird> well ive had it 3 days now
[09:11] <membreya> maybe I should switch to breezy
[09:11] <CarlK> cavediver - what card?
[09:11] <cavediver> The tv resolution and the desktop size are different
[09:11] <membreya> I miss the daily updates :)
[09:11] <cavediver> CarlK: Nvidia FX5200
[09:11] <frank_> CarlK, I think its only to edit an already authored strucutre
[09:11] <membreya> cavediver: so set metamodes
[09:11] <tbird> there are many updates in breezy
[09:11] <CarlK> cavediver - nm - I have an i810 box with svid out
[09:11] <cavediver> membreya: I've done that.
[09:12] <membreya> then you shouldnt have a problem
[09:12] <CarlK> frank_ - i was afarid of that
[09:12] <cavediver> membreya: and the resolution are different, it's lower on my tv, but the desktop size is the same as my monitor.
[09:12] <membreya> cavediver: you're using twinview?
[09:12] <cavediver> membreya: so if I maximize something it can't fit.
[09:12] <cavediver> membreya: yes.
[09:12] <membreya> post your xorg.conf somewhere
[09:13] <mjr> Burgundavia, all old versions
[09:13] <cavediver> membreya: ok.
[09:13] <neme> in wich menu can I find mtrr and agpgart in kernel config?
[09:14] <mantis_> quit
[09:14] <mantis_> exit
[09:14] <membreya> time for this membreya go go to Breezy :D
[09:14] <cavediver> membreya: check out http://helium.terminal.se/dump/xorg.conf
[09:15] <hor> I need to have a list of the URLs with ubuntu updates that are available on my System. Is it possible to create something like that in any way?!
[09:15] <polaritius> when i enter the command "sudo mv jre1.5.0_02/ /usr/java/" i get this error "mv: cannot stat 'jrel.5.0_02/' : no such file or directory
[09:16] <cavediver> membreya: you said I was crazy! :=)
[09:16] <membreya> hmmmm im not too sure with your arch, but with my amd64 I can not set horiz and vert rates....
[09:16] <membreya> try taking them out :)
[09:16] <tbird> polaritius, are you in the dir that file is in ?
[09:16] <mjr> damned
[09:16] <membreya> mmmm breezy goodness
[09:16] <cavediver> membreya: but the stuff get's displayed, so It's not that I think
[09:16] <membreya> but only 90megabytes of data on my first update...
[09:16] <nickrud> hor: trying to download at high speed, and take the files to another computer?
[09:16] <mjr> first ubuntu breaks libxine, then when I downgrade, I can't get DVB subtitles anymore
[09:16] <membreya> just try it cavediver :P
[09:16] <cavediver> membreya: Hm ok :=)
[09:17] <polaritius> tbird: um i dont think so
[09:17] <tbird> polaritius, thats the problem then
[09:17] <cavediver> membreya: comment out the refresh rates.. that's seem odd :)
[09:17] <cavediver> I thought they were mandatory
[09:17] <revelater> hello
[09:17] <dash> hi. anyone managed to get X forwarding working with ssh on ubuntu?
[09:17] <polaritius> tbird: it said to just make the DIR first then use that command
[09:17] <mjr> dash, -X
[09:17] <membreya> cavediver: Option  "SecondmonitorHorizSync" "30-50" that
[09:17] <dash> my server running sid happily forwards
[09:17] <tbird> polaritius, you trying to get java working ?
[09:17] <cavediver> membreya: ok
[09:17] <revelater> see
[09:17] <dash> but my hoary box does not
[09:17] <cavediver> membreya: bbl
[09:18] <dash> mjr: yep, did that.
[09:18] <dash> $DISPLAY is still unset.
[09:18] <sevenseals> hello me
[09:18] <Guga> ty LinuxJones    should xserver-xorg have v4l enabled?
[09:18] <revelater> howdy
[09:18] <tbird> this worked for me to get java working  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23592.html
[09:18] <hor> nickrud: hm, yep. Downloading the things on a windows Computer and then transport them back to my PC (i only have dial-up)
[09:20] <Levander> Anybody gotta a default main.cf for postfix to email me?
[09:20] <Levander> Think I screwed mine up.
[09:20] <LinuxJones> Guga, unless you have a video camera probably not
[09:20] <LinuxJones> membreya, are there any major problems with Breezy for you so far ?
[09:20] <polaritius> tbird: plus i haev to deal with random crashes becuase i think i haev a bad memory stick
[09:20] <membreya> LinuxJones: just installing it now ..and i will reboot and let you know :P
[09:20] <cavediver> membreya: it got me a black screen on my tv :=)
[09:21] <polaritius> tbird: but yes trying to install java
[09:21] <membreya> dang cavediver :|
[09:21] <tbird> polaritius, use the link i posted
[09:21] <nickrud> Hor: Well, I was going to recommend apt-zip. You might try it, it should give you a list of urls you can massage yourself.
[09:21] <cavediver> :(
[09:21] <LinuxJones> membreya, lovely a guinea pig :)
[09:21] <tbird> polaritius, its verry simple
[09:21] <cavediver> membreya: I'm tired of this ....
[09:21] <polaritius> tbird: i had to shut down i dont have that link anymore :(
[09:21] <Levander> nobody's running a mail server on ubuntu?
[09:21] <tbird> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23592.html
[09:21] <cavediver> I hate having half my desktop showing on my tv :(
[09:22] <membreya> brb going to reboot :P
[09:23] <AilleantSian> can you forse ubuntu to see a device that it does pick up but picks it up wrong ?
[09:23] <tbird> AilleantSian, how does it pick it wrong ?
[09:24] <|QuaD-> is there a reason that all of unstable hasn't been imported to breezy? looking at gnome-blog, sid has v0.8-2, we are on 0.7-4
[09:24] <AilleantSian> it sees it as a block volume instead of a wlan
[09:24] <AilleantSian> and i downloaded ndiswrapper and it doesnt pick up the hardware at all :(
[09:24] <Guga> LinuxJones   sudo modprobe nvidia
[09:24] <Guga> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko): No such device
[09:25] <tbird> |QuaD-, i used sid right before breezy and to me breezy is more current on versions
[09:25] <AilleantSian> any ideas tbird?
[09:26] <dash> mjr: so, no idea what else I should check? "X11Forwarding yes" is in my sshd_config
[09:26] <tbird> AilleantSian, sorry stick around sure someone will come around that knows
[09:26] <ulas2> AilleantSian, No device ? :)
[09:26] <ulas2> AilleantSian, what is your g board
[09:26] <|QuaD-> tbird: i just gave you an example where it isn't
[09:26] <AilleantSian> no it sees it as a device but the wrong one
[09:27] <Luke1> hello.  how do I get a list of (and/or search through) packages available via "apt-get"?
[09:27] <LinuxJones> Guga, I can't remember the command to scan for new modules. A re-boot should fix it and remember to add nvidia to /etc/modules so that it will be loaded at every boot
[09:27] <AilleantSian> g board?
[09:27] <tbird> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/
[09:27] <Luke1> tbird: thx.
[09:28] <polaritius> tbird: im completely new to this and that faq is incredibly hard to follow, it beings me to a place where i ahev to download a file adn i dont know which one to grab because there are about 2000 of them :(
[09:28] <LinuxJones> Guga, try depmod -aE
[09:28] <ulas2> AilleantSian, graphics board.
[09:28] <tbird> polaritius, hold on ill get you the link to it
[09:28] <dhonn> hey what needs to be installed to compile athlon64 programs under a i386 platform?
[09:28] <AilleantSian> its a wlan
[09:28] <nickrud> |QuaD-, according to breezy changes mail list, less than 3000 updates have been made. Be patient :)
[09:28] <AilleantSian> pcmica
[09:28] <LinuxJones> Guga, sorry make that depmod -Ae
[09:28] <tbird> ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/JDK-1.4.2/i386/rc1/j2sdk-1.4.2-rc1-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin
[09:29] <|QuaD-> nickrud: oh, i didn't realize... when are they going to finnish?
[09:29] <Guga> did, LinuxJones   depmod -Ae
[09:29] <LinuxJones> Guga, will it load the module now ?
[09:29] <nickrud> |QuaD-: around 5.10 :)
[09:29] <polaritius> tbird: how do i save that file instead of opening it?
[09:30] <|QuaD-> nickrud: lol... i meant when are they going to finish importing packages!
[09:30] <tbird> open a terminal and type wget ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/JDK-1.4.2/i386/rc1/j2sdk-1.4.2-rc1-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin
[09:30] <nickrud> I'm not sure when they'll be done, part of the reason I've been following breezy-changes is to see if I can see :)
[09:31] <tbird> polaritius, just put that link in google
[09:31] <tbird> and choose save
[09:31] <|QuaD-> nickrud: heh.... :)
[09:31] <Guga> LinuxJones, no luck
[09:31] <Guga> same error
[09:31] <polaritius> tbird: do i save it in Home?
[09:31] <tbird> polaritius, yes
[09:32] <LinuxJones> Guga, do you know what kernel your using ?
[09:32] <Guga> LinuxJones, new glxgears error is Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:32] <Guga> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[09:32] <Guga> I don't
[09:32] <artinla> anyone know of a good caller-ID or call block for linux?
[09:33] <LinuxJones> Guga, ok what does uname -r output ?
[09:33] <artinla> guga you don't have the driver module installed or xorg.conf is wrong
[09:33] <jfk303> hile, I'm trying to set up bittorrent. I am connectd through a router and just recently because our network grew a hub too, with the router I just put in the ip address and get the config screen  and can then forward the ports, how do I find out the address of the hub I am now conected through, and will it definatelyhave a config screen?
[09:33] <Guga> 2.6.10-5-386, LinuxJones
[09:34] <flodine> guys whats a good fps in glx?
[09:34] <membreya> only problem was getting an error message re my network mapping :|
[09:34] <LinuxJones> Guga, do sudo apt-get update && apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:34] <membreya> :)
[09:34] <jdong> ok, quick question for you guys: Why isn't Ubuntu using NPTL yet?
[09:34] <hor> To update to hoary (from hoary preview), should i use dselectupgrade,upgrade or distupgrade?
[09:34] <markuman> is there any xterm command to check the mhz from my cpu?
[09:34] <flodine> guys whats a good fps in glx? holla back
[09:35] <jdong> Especially since it's available in dual-personality/compatibility mode, and many other distros are using it
[09:35] <dhonn> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:35] <membreya> markuman: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:35] <nickrud> hor: dist-upgrade
[09:35] <markuman> thx
[09:36] <hor> nickrud: Thank you very much for the tip with apt-zip too :) :)
[09:36] <mvirkkil> Wow. Gnome's cool. You can play a music file with just holding the mouse above the file (at least on the desktop). I think the logic is that you 'preview' it. It's cool, but took me a while to understand what was happening when some random piece started suddenly playing.
[09:36] <membreya> LinuxJones: everything is hunky dory so far except for kcontrol complaining it can't verify my OS :P
[09:36] <Guga> one line, LinuxJones?
[09:36] <nickrud> hor: I hope it works :)
[09:36] <dhonn> when ever i get on a windows computer i never get a chance to see "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[09:36] <LinuxJones> membreya, cool, that's a weird problem :D
[09:36] <LinuxJones> Guga, yeah
[09:36] <markuman> cat /proc/cpuinfo said that it runs with 1 ghz. but i have 2ghz. and the bios said it too
[09:36] <markuman> i use amd64
[09:37] <markuman> some ideas?
[09:37] <membreya> markuman: powernowd
[09:37] <membreya> it's throttling your CPU back
[09:37] <artinla> flodine_ I am getting @10,000
[09:37] <membreya> to save heat and your CPUs lifespan
[09:37] <markuman> aha. membreya, can i controll it? how?
[09:37] <dhonn> mine says 1.2 but i have a pentium4-m 1.8
[09:37] <LinuxJones> membreya, how big is the upgrade ?
[09:38] <Guga> done, LinuxJones
[09:38] <dhonn> it throttles though
[09:38] <membreya> markuman: if you WANT to ...just install cpufreqd..though why you would I don't know
[09:38] <LinuxJones> Guga, ok now try to modprobe nvidia
[09:38] <membreya> LinuxJones: my update was only 90megabytes..with 18 packages held back
[09:38] <markuman> ok thx
[09:38] <Guga> same error LinuxJones
[09:38] <LinuxJones> membreya, sweet
[09:38] <pune> hey  can anyone tell me why the driver that ndiswrapper uninstalled is still active in dmesg?
[09:39] <LinuxJones> Guga, was the nv driver working ok or is this a brand new install ?
[09:39] <membreya> pune: did you modprobe -r it?
[09:39] <NotMeHonest233> Does anyone know if the spam filtering in evolution
[09:39] <Guga> was working when I installed, then quit
[09:39] <membreya> NotMeHonest233: spamassassin, you need to download it
[09:39] <smo> curious, are canonical mailshotting CDs now?  we received a box of warty CDs today, and none of us can figure out who requested them
[09:39] <pune> membreya, no, I modprobe ndiswrappered it
[09:39] <NotMeHonest233> in hoary? doesn't bogofilter work?
[09:40] <dhonn> that would do it pune
[09:40] <Guga> LinuxJones, was working when installed, then quit
[09:40] <dhonn> reverse it
[09:40] <membreya> LinuxJones: is there any way to see the error messages presented when you
[09:40] <membreya> 're booting?
[09:40] <LinuxJones> Guga, did you edit the xorg.conf file and change it to nvidia for the video driver module
[09:40] <dhonn> modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[09:40] <Echylo> hmm question, I updated to breezy, but it's pretty broken :P so I wonder if I can reverse to hoary ?
[09:40] <dhonn> i would do it but id be offline
[09:41] <nickrud> NotMeHo...: evolution only uses spamassasin
[09:41] <Guga> LinuxJones, yes I did.
[09:41] <LinuxJones> membreya, /var/log/messages
[09:41] <pune> dhonn, modprobe -r removes the old driver is that it?
[09:41] <Guga> LinuxJones, let me reboot
[09:41] <membreya> gah 4 days worth :P
[09:41] <LinuxJones> membreya, sorry you mean for a specific service or kernel messages ?
[09:41] <dhonn> ndiswrapper -e drivename would remove the physical widnows driver
[09:41] <hor> nickrud: apt-zip works perfectly! =)
[09:41] <dhonn> drivername*
[09:41] <nickrud> hor: good
[09:42] <pune> dhonn, ok, hold on I'll try that
[09:42] <Echylo> anyone knows how I roll back my breezy system to hoar?
[09:42] <dhonn> modprobe -r ndiswrapper would stop running it
[09:42] <Quenyar> Hello all.  I have a problem. My utbuntu will only run at 800x600, even though the xfree86.conf defines 1024 x 768 ... How can I get it to run this higher resolution?
[09:42] <LinuxJones> Echylo, it would be faster to do a re-install
[09:42] <Echylo> feck
[09:42] <Echylo> hmm
[09:42] <Echylo> well the problem is my printer isn't working anymore
[09:42] <pune> dhonn, it's still listed in dmesg, is that bad?
[09:42] <dhonn> System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution, Quenyar?
[09:43] <LinuxJones> Echylo, what kind of printer do you have ?
[09:43] <dhonn> its ok
[09:43] <Echylo> does hotplug detects my printer? and would it help if I only reinstall that prog
[09:43] <membreya> LinuxJones: im looking for an error message regarding mapping of eth0 that was presented when i was booting
[09:43] <LinuxJones> Echylo, if it's usb yeah
[09:43] <Echylo> ok
[09:43] <Quenyar> dhonn - this gives me two choices 640x480 and 800 x 600...
[09:43] <Echylo> let's give that a try
[09:43] <nickrud> Quenyar, what  monitor do you have?
[09:43] <dhonn> damn
[09:43] <LinuxJones> membreya, that should be in /var/log/messages I think
[09:43] <Quenyar> Song 17sfII
[09:43] <membreya> LinuxJones: nope :|
[09:43] <Quenyar> Sony, not Song
[09:44] <dhonn> dmesg leaves previous messages from the kernel on it, pune
[09:44] <LinuxJones> membreya, check dmesg output
[09:44] <pune> ok, i'm seeing that
[09:44] <nickrud> google song 17sfii and horizrefresh, it should pull up a working config.
[09:44] <pune> dhonn, cool, maybe it'll work now
[09:44] <pune> dhonn, thanks
[09:44] <dhonn> no problem pune
[09:45] <Quenyar> nickrud - Sony Multiscan 17sfII  31-65 Khz / 50-120 Hz Max Resolution:  1280 x 1024
[09:45] <membreya> LinuxJones: nothing :|
[09:45] <membreya> grrrrr
[09:45] <LinuxJones> membreya, your network card is not working ?
[09:46] <nickrud> ok, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and plug the khz and hz in to the monitor section, and all should be good.
[09:46] <pune> dhonn, ok though the damn lights still aren't turning on
[09:46] <membreya> LinuxJones: it's working fine :) but i was baffled by the error message
[09:46] <pune> dhonn, this is driving me crazy
[09:46] <dhonn> sometimes the lights are on sometimes they are off
[09:46] <membreya> ok, here's an easier question, is there a way to find out if you're on DHCP or static?
[09:46] <mike> i downloaded kubuntu-desktop how to a run kde
[09:46] <mike> ?
[09:46] <dhonn> i have the same problem
[09:46] <membreya> using ifconfig?
[09:46] <pune> dhonn, I used iwconfig
[09:46] <alexissoft> hi
[09:47] <Echylo> mike just restart your Xsession with ctrl + alt + backspace & choose it in window manager. Or start a new session
[09:47] <dhonn> mike its in Sessions, on the login screen
[09:47] <membreya> mike: when you download kubuntu-desktop it should ask you if you want to use KDE or not
[09:47] <Echylo> Sessions...
[09:47] <alexissoft> i'm testing gnopernicus with ubuntu to help a couple of visually impaired users to switch into linux (speech synthesis and others are too expensive)
[09:48] <dhonn> have you ran: ndiswrapper -m ?
[09:48] <alexissoft> but i can't start the voice system
[09:48] <mike> thanks guys ill try it out
[09:48] <dhonn> then do :  ifup wlan0
[09:48] <preglow> are anyone able to tell me what version of alsa the current hoary kernel is built with?
[09:48] <alexissoft> and when I launch gnopernicus manually I see that a library is missing : libatk-bridge.so
[09:48] <pune> dhonn, no, it doesn't say anything about that, but I can try hold on
[09:48] <dhonn> i never touch iwconfig
[09:48] <membreya> alexissoft: so install libatk?
[09:48] <alexissoft> membreya: already installed
[09:48] <membreya> sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-0
[09:48] <deltalima> preglow: 2.6.10
[09:49] <membreya> sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-data?
[09:49] <membreya> sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-dev?
[09:49] <alexissoft> data is installed, not dev
[09:49] <pune> dhonn, it returned "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"
[09:49] <Quenyar> nickrud - under Monitor section?
[09:49] <camcorder> and you should say no ;P
[09:50] <dhonn> do: ndiswrapper -m    first
[09:50] <dhonn> wlan0 should then be a known interface
[09:50] <pune> dhonn, I think i did, and then I did ifup wlan0
[09:50] <Quenyar> nickrud - do I leade the Option "DPMS" the same?
[09:50] <Quenyar> nickrud - kan't type today    do I leave the DPMS option alone?
[09:50] <alexissoft> libatk1.0-dev is installed and the library is missing too
[09:50] <nickrud> yes to both questions :)
[09:51] <pune> dhonn, yeah, it's not being recognized yet
[09:51] <nickrud> quenyar: dpms is what lets the screensaver turn off your monitor after a while
[09:51] <dhonn> your tring to get the lights on?
[09:51] <pune> dhonn, could it be I have the wrong driver even though it fits the hardware in ndiswrapper?
[09:52] <dhonn> what card or drive are you using, pune?
[09:52] <ratius> any of you is running World of Warcraft with linux?
[09:52] <mike> it worked im on kde whoaaao
[09:52] <pune> dhonn, well, if the lights go on I know that the device is configured
[09:52] <pune> dhonn, a dell truemobile 1310
[09:53] <pune> dhonn, it says to use the 1350 driver on the web, and that's what I'm using.
[09:53] <delerium> Hi there! Does the java plugin will work with a amd64 install?
[09:53] <mike> can you use apt for different icon styles?
[09:53] <membreya> yes
[09:53] <membreya> delerium:
[09:53] <dhonn> pune, do:    ndiswrapper -i windowsdriver.inf;  ndiswrapper -l; ndiswrapper -m; modprobe ndiswrapper; ifup wlan0
[09:53] <delerium> thanks membreya
[09:54] <dhonn> that should kick it up
[09:54] <chachacha> hola
[09:54] <chachacha> hi
[09:54] <LinuxJones> chachacha, hiya
[09:54] <mike> there is another monitor like gkrellm that runs on suse and its transparent does anyone know the name of that?
[09:55] <dhonn> pune though the lights might not come on though.  I have had that problem.  to check if it is really up try:  iwlist wla0 scan
[09:55] <dhonn>   iwlist wlan0 scan
[09:56] <tremere> hi, i'm wondering whether AOL has a client for linux?  i really want to try Ubuntu, but only have AOL for internet access.
[09:56] <Delerium_> How to install a .deb package? Which command should I use?
[09:57] <Bazzi> tremere you dont need the client to connect to aol.
[09:57] <nickrud> Delerium_: dpkg -i
[09:57] <alexissoft> Delerium_: dpkg -i
[09:57] <dhonn> dpkg -i pkgname
[09:57] <Delerium_> ty guys.. quick! :)
[09:57] <tremere> Bazzi you don't?  wish i knew that.
[09:57] <Bazzi> tremere thats the last I know, I think that works since 2002 or so.
[09:57] <nickrud> Delerium_: easy one :)
[09:57] <Bazzi> tremere are you on DSL/Cable or dialup?
[09:57] <tremere> Bazzi i am on dialup
[09:58] <Bazzi> k :)
[09:58] <tremere> Bazzi out here in the country we don't have DSL or cable.
[09:58] <membreya> alexissoft: what's the exact error you're getting?
[09:58] <Delerium_> nickrud: comming from the Solaris world... so I don't know the debian variant!
[09:58] <Bazzi> in the middle of nowhere
[09:58] <dhonn> Bazzi im using wireless in a Library lol
[09:58] <nickrud> Delerium_: not a judgement, I like easy ones :)
[09:58] <tremere> Bazzi, yes in the middle of nowhere.  there's a price you pay for serenity :)
[09:58] <alexissoft> membreya: I have a french system
[09:58] <dhonn> i cant afford dialup or cable
[09:59] <alexissoft> I put LC_ALL="C", wait
[09:59] <pune> dhonn, no, still nothing, I think I might be using the wrong driver though
[09:59] <HOKUM> ppl,will anyone answer me couple of completely noob questions?i will appreciate that really,it will only take one minute!
[09:59] <Bazzi> tremere I'm almost comitting suicide in this 7,000 people town
[09:59] <membreya> does it mention GTK alexissoft ?
[09:59] <pune> dhonn, I'll try another one off the web
[09:59] <dhonn> pune, you might have to download previous or latest versions
[09:59] <LinuxJones> HOKUM, go ahead :D
[09:59] <alexissoft> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "atk-bridge": libatk-bridge.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:59] <tremere> Bazzi i don't believe there is a way to connect to AOL without its client....i believe their server has a specific way of validating username/password, that requries the client...
[10:00] <dhonn> i had the same problem, the one that came with my wifi card is the only driver that worked
[10:00] <alexissoft> membreya: yes
[10:00] <LinuxJones> HOKUM, yeah
[10:00] <LinuxJones> HOKUM, here is good :)
[10:00] <HOKUM> ah,ok :)
[10:00] <membreya> alexissoft: can you do me a favour and when you error out, look at your .xsession-errors file
[10:00] <nickrud> tremere: you have nothing to lose trying pppconfig
[10:00] <Bazzi> tremere for dsl at least there is
[10:00] <LinuxJones> HOKUM, ok so what about sudo ?
[10:00] <membreya> LinuxJones: so installed breezy yet ? :P
[10:00] <HOKUM> where can i get kernel source?
[10:00] <dhonn> pune, i even loaded Linspire wifi drivers
[10:00] <cspnico> someone know how i can get the font of the ubuntu's logo?
[10:01] <LinuxJones> membreya, are there any problems so far ?
[10:01] <HOKUM> andi have a question about sudo...i want to set privilegies on my fat partition,just not sure how to do that
[10:01] <membreya> aside from kcontrol crying.. no :)
[10:01] <HOKUM> althought i was using slackware couple of years ago,i dont know anything now,i forgot all :)
[10:01] <pantz>  i want to build a module for my wireless network card on hoary - can someone tell me if i need linux-headers-386 OR linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 OR do i need linux-source-2.6.10?
[10:01] <tremere> nickrud how well does pppconfig work on Ubuntu?  I know in the past that it didn't work well with Redhat (IIRC)
[10:01] <LinuxJones> HOKUM, check out www.ubuntuguide.org lots of great stuff for the new Ubuntu user :)
[10:01] <pune> dhonn, ok, i'll check it out again
[10:01] <nickrud> HOKUM: in your fstab, use umask in the options column
[10:01] <alexissoft> membreya: I've just (concerning gnopernicus)
[10:01] <dhonn> pune, make sure to ndiswrapper -e oldwindowsdriver.inf
[10:02] <Krys_> I need some very quick emergency help.. I reformatted my laptop which had ubuntu on it.. put windows back on (selling laptop).. and grub won't load.. it says "grub error" how do I get rid of grub so the system's back to normal?
[10:02] <nickrud> tremere: I used it a lot under debian, worked every time.
[10:02] <XandriX_> is there any of the creator sonline ?i meen those who founded ubuntu
[10:02] <alexissoft> (gnopernicus:32393): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[10:02] <Levander> Where do php errors go in the default ubuntu setup? Running php4 and apache2.
[10:02] <membreya> LinuxJones: the only other thing is administrator mode not working in kcontrol ;)
[10:02] <dhonn> also:  iwlist wlan0 scan... do you have  a wireless network by to connect too?
[10:02] <alexissoft> (gnopernicus:32393): gnopernicus-WARNING **: srcore has ended. (this is a translation of the french message :p)
[10:02] <IIIEars> HOKUM - the toolbar >> System >>Administration >> Users and Groups  - won't do it for you?
[10:03] <HOKUM> well it doesnt allow me to
[10:03] <LinuxJones> membreya, I use Gnome :)
[10:03] <membreya> :P
[10:03] <cspnico> someone know how i can get the font of the ubuntu's logo?
[10:03] <HOKUM> IIIEars,i cant do that,it says i dont have privilegies,so its blured
[10:03] <Quenyar> nickrud - didn't work, all I have is still 80-0 x 600 as max selectable
[10:03] <pune> dhonn, ok thanks for your help. I'm gonna switch to windows and download this driver
[10:03] <Quenyar> nickrud grrrr 800 x 600
[10:03] <zxc> cspnico, I came across this a while ago "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuArtwork/"...dunno if it helps
[10:04] <nickrud> Quenyar, post your xorg.conf on pastebin.com, and give me the link
[10:04] <cspnico> zxc: >oki taanks
[10:04] <membreya> alexissoft: do you have a /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules directory?
[10:04] <alexissoft> membreya: yes
[10:04] <membreya> what's in it?
[10:05] <Guga> LinuxJones, now the Xserver won't show, I'm on a live cd
[10:05] <LinuxJones> Guga, your on a live cd ohhh
[10:05] <dhonn> lol
[10:05] <LinuxJones> Guga, that's important to know :D
[10:05] <mike> when i download icon themes where do they save to?
[10:06] <alexissoft> libdwellmouselistener.a   libdwellmouselistener.so  libferret.so      libgail-gnome.so  libgail.so             libkeymouselistener.la
[10:06] <alexissoft> libdwellmouselistener.la  libferret.la              libgail-gnome.la  libgail.la        libkeymouselistener.a  libkeymouselistener.so
[10:06] <LinuxJones> Guga, if you do an install to hard disk it will be no problem to get up and running quickly
[10:06] <nickrud> mike: ~/.icons
[10:06] <dhonn> desktop?
[10:06] <Guga> LinuxJones, I wasn't before.  My Xserver went down after reboot, so I used the live cd for here
[10:06] <alexissoft> that is the content of /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules
[10:06] <mike> thanks nickrud
[10:07] <IIIEars> HOKUM - Dunno if this is right ( am new too) CTRL+ALT+F2 passwd  set the password then press CTRL+ALT+F7 - i can change the properties now.
[10:07] <LinuxJones> Guga, what kind of video card is it ?
[10:07] <membreya> alexissoft: so libatkbridge isn't there..give me a bit mate :)
[10:07] <Guga> nvidia 8mb TNT2
[10:07] <alexissoft> membreya: :)
[10:08] <dhonn> I enabled "Hear multiple sounds at once" but on my laptop the sound is grainy,  anyone know how to fix it?
[10:08] <alexissoft> i've installed every package that concerns accebility
[10:08] <alexissoft> i've installed every package that concerns accessibility
[10:08] <LinuxJones> Guga, man that's old, I don't know if the new nvidia drivers will even support that card. Best to just change the driver to vesa. You won't have 3d but at least it will work :(
[10:08] <membreya> alexissoft: sudo apt-get install at-api
[10:09] <Guga> LinuxJones, would a 16 mb VirgeS3 work?
[10:09] <alexissoft> membreya: package not found
[10:09] <unperson> I have an older system (Celeron 400) I'm using as a router/file server with Libranet at the moment.  I'm considering installing hoary on it instead, because it occasionally gets used as a desktop and Ubuntu has a kick-ass desktop setup.  Can anyone point me to a page or post outlining an easy way to setup IP Masquerading in Ubuntu?
[10:09] <XandriX_> i own a company and was wonderig if i could be sponserd by ubuntu i would sell all linux servers with ubuntu if interested email me plz
[10:09] <LinuxJones> Guga, it has an nvidia chipset ?
[10:09] <XandriX_> at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:09] <unperson> My current setup with Libranet is super easy, which is one of the big upsides.
[10:09] <LinuxJones> Guga, I'm not that familiar with that card
[10:10] <membreya> alexissoft: you did at-spi ..not sp1? :P
[10:10] <LinuxJones> HOKUM, dcc is disabled in xchat by default
[10:10] <membreya> alexissoft: are you running hoary/warty/breezy?
 alexissoft: sudo apt-get install at-api
[10:10] <alexissoft> membreya: hoary
[10:10] <membreya> oh
[10:10] <alexissoft> i've installed it one hour ago
[10:10] <membreya> im so sorry alexissoft ...it's 6 am here
[10:10] <HOKUM> this is not xchat....i am using windows now...i have drivers for my intel536ep modem,but i dont have kernel source
[10:10] <membreya> it's at-spi
[10:10] <nickrud> unperson: I've heard good things about ipmasq
[10:11] <Guga> LinuxJones, when I install Hoary, 3d works fine, then quits after I mount /etc/fstab or apt-get blender3d
[10:11] <alexissoft> its 10pm in paris :)
[10:11] <ubuntugeek> ubuntuforums going down for a few.. fyi for everyone
[10:11] <LinuxJones> Guga, that's retarded
[10:11] <membreya> Guga: what video card?
[10:11] <alexissoft> membreya: thank you
[10:11] <alexissoft> it's working now :)
[10:11] <LinuxJones> HOKUM, you mean gcc ?
[10:11] <membreya> alexissoft: thank me when it works :P
[10:11] <Guga> membreya 8mb nvidia TNT2
[10:12] <LinuxJones> HOKUM, sudo apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential
[10:12] <alexissoft> but why at-spi is not a dependency of gnopernicus ?
[10:12] <membreya> Guga: go to your xorg.conf and comment out renderaccel
[10:12] <Loevborg> does anyone know why it is that I have english menu names, despite using a germane locale environment?
[10:12] <membreya> alexissoft: im not sure, I didn't publish it :P
[10:12] <alexissoft> ok
[10:12] <HOKUM> LinuxJones,well,that is what i want,to get that drivers for modem working,and to enable using of my fat partition,that is all i want,and i cant figure it out reading forums/guides/etc
[10:12] <dyce> i have the wlan tools
[10:12] <alexissoft> thank you :)
[10:13] <dyce> what do i do now?
[10:13] <membreya> alexissoft: all up and running now?
[10:13] <Guga> membreya, thank you
[10:13] <alexissoft> i don't have the error message now
[10:13] <nickrud> Loevborg: log out to gdm, and see if english is selected as the language
[10:13] <alexissoft> i don't have the voice for the moment but festival is recognized by gnopernicus
[10:13] <membreya> Guga: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7183
[10:13] <dyce> how do i compile wlan tools.27?
[10:13] <Loevborg> nickrud, the submenus are in german, btw. I selected german in gdm.
[10:14] <nickrud> loevborg, over my head :)
[10:14] <LinuxJones> HOKUM, the build-essential package has all the stuff you need to compile drivers for your modem www.ubuntuguide.org for your fat partition.
[10:14] <Loevborg> nickrud, over mine, too.
[10:15] <LinuxJones> HOKUM, what kind of modem do you have again ?
[10:15] <HOKUM> intel 536ep
[10:15] <dyce> how do i get wlan working?
[10:16] <unperson> I'll also probably want to run one of the more stripped down WMs on this machine.  Any feedback on which packages work well in ubuntu?  XFCE, Blackbox, etc.
[10:16] <dantheman> does anyone know of a good gmail checker for linux?
[10:16] <carlo1> #ubuntu.nl
[10:16] <dyce> anyone got wlan working?
[10:16] <nickrud> unperson: I use gnome, but the consensus I've seen here is in favor of fluxbox
[10:17] <sysrq> unperson: I just installed openbox from CVS then edited gnome-session to start that instead of all the gnome stuff
[10:18] <tamarico>  telnet ubuntuforums.org 80
[10:18] <tamarico> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[10:18] <tamarico> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[10:18] <tamarico> Argh !
[10:18] <dyce> need help guys
[10:18] <dhonn> dyce: i followd the this page (no need to compile anything like it says though) http://bryson.co.nz/files/ndiswrapper.html
[10:18] <dyce> ok
[10:18] <dyce> thanks
[10:19] <membreya> tamarico: ubuntugeek told us before the forums were going offline for a bite
[10:19] <membreya> erm bit
[10:19] <membreya> alexissoft: any luck yet mate?
[10:19] <alexissoft> hmmm
[10:19] <dhonn> dyce even though the page doesnt say it,  you can use other wireless drivers other than rtl8180
[10:19] <alexissoft> festival is using 100% of cpu
[10:20] <alexissoft> and no voice
[10:20] <GNAM> it's a good idea to install kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu?
[10:20] <fipeso> hello
[10:20] <SpookyET> I have 40 GiB of windows before linux. can i delete that partion, move linux and then resize he linux partition?
[10:21] <tbird> SpookyET, ive used partitionmagic to do that
[10:21] <dyce> which ndiswrapper should i get? the prerelease or the regular release?
[10:21] <kakalto> can I take a cookie from firefox, and put it in konqueror's cookie bag?
[10:21] <kakalto> so that konqueror will use the cookie?
[10:21] <dhonn> just use the one that comes with ubuntu
[10:21] <Loevborg> kakalto, unlikely.
[10:21] <kakalto> :(
[10:21] <Loevborg> kakalto, why would you want that?
[10:21] <fipeso> anyone else got problem to open the ubuntu forum?
[10:21] <mike> there is another monitor like gkrellm that runs on suse and its transparent does anyone know the name of that?\
[10:22] <kakalto> 'cause I have a cookie saying I'm logged into a forum, but firefox didn't save the password, and I've forgotten the password
[10:22] <SpookyET> tbird: partition magic for linux?
[10:22] <Deathwind> fipeso, I think ubuntugeek said it would be down for a couple hours
[10:22] <tbird> SpookyET, no for windows :/
[10:22] <SpookyET> eh
[10:22] <Quenyar> nickrud - sorry to take so long - the file is /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 since I'm running Warty
[10:22] <kyncani> GNAM: i have kubuntu-desktop with ubuntu, does not seem to be any problem
[10:22] <SpookyET> but how can it delete the partition with it on it
[10:22] <GhostFreeman> Ok, I just removed KDE
[10:22] <GNAM> thx kyncani
[10:22] <tbird> SpookyET, you cant totally
[10:22] <nickrud> Quenyar: got a link
[10:22] <fipeso> ok thx, I was worried somthings wrong on my end
[10:22] <rafx> is anyone here successfully running ubuntu as guest os in vmware 5.0?
[10:22] <GhostFreeman> now how do I remove all the links made to KDE apps in my GNOME Applications menu?
[10:23] <dhonn> GhostFreeman, i had the same problem as you
[10:23] <Quenyar> a link?
[10:23] <dhonn> you have to use SPM
[10:23] <GhostFreeman> I used Synaptic
[10:23] <tbird> SpookyET, dont know anyother way in  linux maby parted
[10:23] <IIIEars> partition magic is = qtparted in linux - defrag/optimize your windows install to move fragmented data - then move a delete as needed
[10:23] <dhonn> sort it by name of K
[10:23] <kyncani> SpookyET: get knoppix, try qtparted
[10:23] <revelater> is there a graphical program that tells me whats eating up my ram?
[10:23] <dhonn> theres apt-get install gparted
[10:24] <nickrud> quenyar: I'd like to look at it, so if you post it to pastebin.com, I'll be able to :)
[10:24] <GhostFreeman> dhonn -- I already removed the apps with Synaptic
[10:24] <ssam> does anyone here use netapplet? should there be a /bin/netapplet executable?
[10:24] <Zugot> is ubuntu amd64 faster than x86?
[10:24] <IIIEars> it's important to use a good defrag tool windows defrag won't do what you want - i often use System Mechanic (trialware)
[10:24] <kyncani> revelater: i just use top (it's a console program), then type "o" for ordering and "k" to order by resident memory
[10:24] <dhonn> GhostFreeman, same here, but it took some time
[10:24] <kakalto> Zugot, it takes advantage of 64bit architecture
[10:24] <kyncani> revelater: oops, i meant "O" and "q"
[10:25] <GhostFreeman> wait -- I can get rid of the links with Menu Editor
[10:25] <nickrud> ssam: I seem to remember a bug about that, but can't find it :0
[10:25] <GhostFreeman> thanks for the help
[10:25] <Zugot> kakalto: that i understand, but is it really faster?
[10:25] <ssam> nickrud, thanks i'll have a look
[10:25] <kakalto> Zugot, I assume so, but I don't have the hardware to test that ;)
[10:26] <Zugot> i have an amd64 3200 laptop.   i finally believe that i have all my software worked out, so i could switch to amd64 if i wish...   i'm just wondering if it is worth the time
[10:26] <tamarico> membreya, thanks
[10:26] <InitMass> how do i get utf8 support in nano?
[10:26] <mjr> InitMass, you write it...
[10:26] <Quenyar> nickrud - I pasted it to pastebin.com
[10:26] <revelater> kuncani: what isgconfd-2 and hald?
[10:26] <InitMass> mjr, i can't write swedish letters
[10:26] <nickrud> Quenyar, now post the link here.
[10:26] <revelater> kuncani: what is gconfd-2 and hald?
[10:27] <evan_> hi all
[10:27] <mjr> InitMass, you misunderstood; you get the support by coding it
[10:27] <mjr> ie. it doesn't support it
[10:27] <InitMass> mjr, so it's not supported yet?
[10:28] <Quenyar> http://pastebin.com/272165
[10:28] <eflynn> i have an athlon-xp... should i use the 'linux-k7' kernel package?
[10:28] <Quenyar> nickrud - http://pastebin.com/272165  sorry
[10:28] <kyncani> revelater: don't know about isgconfd-2, for hald, apt-cache show hal will tell you. (hal is used by gnome to detect hotplug devices like external disks i think)
[10:28] <InitMass> mjr, can you recommend any other easy to use CLI editor?
[10:28] <nickrud> Quenyar: I have to run for a few minutes, back shortly.
[10:29] <revelater> kuncani: gconfd-2 sorry, i typed in the wrong thing no is in the beggining
[10:29] <kyncani> revelater: gconfd-2 is gnome configuration daemon
[10:29] <Bazzi> InitMass vim :)
[10:29] <mjr> InitMass, the only utf-8 capable textmode editor I know is vim, and I suppose you wouldn't call that easy to use
[10:29] <Bazzi> oh easy to use, nm
[10:29] <revelater> kuncani: not running gnome right now so...
[10:29] <revelater> kuncani: can i kill it?
[10:30] <kyncani> revelater: yeah, if you're not using any gnome app
[10:30] <InitMass> ubuntuforums.org is down
[10:30] <revelater> ohh, i am using gedit
[10:30] <InitMass> mjr, no i wouldn't
[10:30] <Burgundavia> InitMass, gedit can do utf-8
[10:30] <Madeye> is ubuntuforums.org down ?
[10:30] <Hackmo> hey all
[10:30] <InitMass> mjr, but everyone that can use it says it's great
[10:31] <Hackmo> madeye: I can't access the fourms either
[10:31] <Burgundavia> Madeye, for me too
[10:31] <Madeye> Hackmo,  then its down
[10:31] <InitMass> Burgundavia, but it doesn't support terminal editing
[10:31] <Hackmo> does anyone know when firefox 1.0.3 will be in the repositories?
[10:31] <InitMass> maddler, yes i can't get in
[10:31] <Burgundavia> Hackmo, the security things will be backported to 1.0.2
[10:32] <Burgundavia> Hackmo, and as .3 is a security update, that is what you will get
[10:33] <nickrud> Quenyar: it looks good to me, except i've never seen "1x1" in a Modes line.
[10:33] <revelater> kuncani: do i need gdm? can i kill it safely?
[10:34] <kyncani> revelater: no. in general don't kill anything unless you know what it is (some googling will tell you that fast).
[10:34] <Quenyar> nickrud - it results in offering me only 640 x 480 and 800 x 600 screen resolution.
[10:34] <InitMass> mjr, i think i did a test which showed that nano worked with utf8 if u started it in gnome-terminal
[10:34] <ssam> gdm is the login screen
[10:34] <flodine> anyone get mplayer installed correctly
[10:34] <Xenguy> revelater: do you prefer to boot X, or to the console?
[10:34] <ssam> if you kill gdm it will take your xserver with it
[10:35] <kyncani> flodine: i do (mplayer-686)
[10:35] <nickrud> Quenyar: another question, probably stupid, but in the gnome screen res preference, can you change the refresh rate? (starting over again, a bit smaller)
[10:35] <kyncani> meant mplayer-586
[10:35] <revelater> Xenguy: i prefer to be in x running fluxbox
[10:35] <atho> hey guys
[10:35] <revelater> Xenguy: (totally pimped out mind you)
[10:35] <atho> i need help with my PowerMac G3 running hoary
[10:36] <Xenguy> revelater: yeah, but you can either login at the console (then type 'startx'), or you can login 'at the X level' with gdm -- your choice
[10:36] <ssam> atho whats up with it
[10:36] <atho> it freezes at "starting hotplug subsystem"
[10:36] <atho> same with a kubuntu install, of course
[10:36] <ssam> atho what do you have plugged in
[10:36] <atho> warty works fine
[10:36] <atho> nothing
[10:36] <atho> i can unplug everything but VGA
[10:36] <flodine> did anyone find libvorbis 1.0.1-1
[10:36] <atho> and it still does it
[10:36] <kyncani> revelater: gdm is eating like 512k resident memory here anyway, no use to kill it
[10:37] <ssam> atho, ok thats a bit beyond me, you might want to try the mailing list of forum
[10:37] <atho> it's been on the forum
[10:37] <revelater> Xenguy: doesn't startx open gdm?
[10:37] <atho> no reply
[10:38] <atho> can i boot into the ku liveCD and downgrade hotplug?
[10:38] <Xenguy> revelater: no
[10:38] <atho> that's whay im thinking
[10:38] <revelater> kuncani: yah, but thats 512k that can go to something lese...
[10:38] <atho> but i don't know how to do it
[10:38] <Xenguy> revelater: it starts an X session AFAIK
[10:38] <ssam> atho then file a bug at bugzilla.ubuntu.org
[10:38] <Neoman> hallo
[10:39] <revelater> Xenguy: is there some kind of minimalist xserver out there?
[10:39] <Quenyar> nickrud - I can change the refresh rate with the GUI tool, but it does not offer me more resolutions when I take it from 85 to 72
[10:39] <kyncani> atho: you can boot some livecd, disable hotplug from starting at boot time, then start it yourself. You will see which module is choking your box and then you can blacklist it (doc available for that on the web i think)
[10:39] <Xenguy> revelater: I've only used xfree86, but of course Xorg is the new (preferred) kid on the block
[10:40] <Xenguy> revelater: I don't know of any others
[10:40] <revelater> Xenguy: casue its using like 76 megs
[10:40] <nickrud> Quenyar: god, I hate x problems.
[10:40] <atho> kyncani, how do i disable hotplug at boot via a liveCD
[10:40] <Xenguy> revelater: are you measuring with 'top'?
[10:40] <ssam> revelater, what does damn small linux use
[10:41] <kyncani> atho: remove every /etc/rc*.d/*hotplug symlinks
[10:41] <revelater> Xenguy: scratch that 98 megs, and yes i am using top
[10:41] <Quenyar> nickrud - what if I edited the XF86Config-4 file and removed the other options.  ie  Depth 24   Modes           "1024x768"  all others out?
[10:41] <revelater> ssam: not sure what damen small linux uses
[10:41] <ssam> atho, or you can remove the executable flag from them
[10:41] <atho> not sure how to do that:P
[10:42] <JonnySlack> hello all
[10:42] <Xenguy> revelater: er, that's crazy - my 'xfree86' (on debian ATM) is used 8.4 (memory)
[10:42] <kyncani> revelater: you want to look at resident memory usage
[10:42] <JonnySlack> Anyone know how long it takes to ship the hoary cds?
[10:42] <revelater> ssam: but i now that the entire running system takes up less than 50 megs
[10:42] <JonnySlack> I've been waiting for a week.
[10:42] <kyncani> atho: ls -l /etc/rc*.d/*hotplug to see the symlinks, then rm /etc/rc*.d/*hotplug
[10:42] <revelater> kyncani, where is that?
[10:43] <JonnySlack> So what was your distro before ubuntu?
[10:43] <Neoman> I want to ask if I realy  can get free CD of ubuntu?
[10:43] <Marble2> why does my xscreensaver just die after like 30-60 minutes of not using it
[10:43] <nickrud> Quenyar: no point.  Try grep "*Default mode" /var/log/XFree86.log (or whatever your log is named)
[10:43] <kyncani> JonnySlack: i suppose you can't just download them
[10:43] <Marble2> I go to lock my screen and I have to start up the daemon again
[10:43] <Marble2> how can I set it to stay alive forever
[10:44] <ssam> neoman yes
[10:44] <nickrud> Quenyar: that will tell us just what the xserver thinks your monitor can do.
[10:44] <Neoman> so i'm going to ask for it :)
[10:44] <kyncani> revelater: with gnome system monitor, you have to enable it in preferences i think
[10:44] <revelater> kyncani, oh i see, scratch that, it is using 76 megs
[10:44] <ssam> neoman it will take a few weeks to arrive
[10:44] <JonnySlack> kyncani, yah, I could, but I do want to have the official CD set. . .
[10:45] <Neoman> ssam: but it is for free I want to have original cd :)
[10:45] <revelater> kyncani: how do i start gnome system monitor?
[10:45] <JonnySlack> and my main systems are updated to hoary through apt.
[10:45] <kyncani> revelater: somewhere in gnome->system menu. Or your could use top (console app) and type "O" "q"
[10:45] <ssam> neoman, go to http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/
[10:45] <revelater> kyncani: im... not in gnome
[10:45] <ompaul> gnome-system-monitor  as a command line in a console
[10:45] <ssam> neoman, sign up and you'll get shipped an orginal cd
[10:46] <revelater> what is this bonobo?
[10:47] <kyncani> JonnySlack: well, you're going to use internet for the upgrade, right ?
[10:48] <Quenyar> nickrud - all becomes clear now - it says "insufficient memory for mode" for every resolution above 800 x 600 .  I wonder if there is anything I can do except to change the video card.  If I do switch out the video card, will I need to reinstall or will ubuntu catch the change and reconfigure itself?
[10:48] <JonnySlack> kyncani, 'going'... I did update over the net.
[10:48] <JonnySlack> On my main system that is.
[10:48] <JonnySlack> But I have other plans for the CDs
[10:48] <JonnySlack> Deployment wise.
[10:48] <revelater> kyncani: what is bonobo?
[10:48] <ompaul> Bonobo is a set of language and system independant CORBA interfaces for creating reusable components, controls and creating compound documents.
[10:49] <revelater> english?
[10:49] <nickrud> Quenyar: if it doesn't, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will rebuild one. You will need to move the old one out of the way.
[10:49] <atho> hmmm
[10:49] <ompaul> revelater, that was taken from the bonobo documentation README
[10:49] <atho> the livecd hotplug subsys works fine
[10:49] <kyncani> JonnySlack: you could set up a personnal ubuntu mirror i think, would not that be better ?
[10:49] <Quenyar> thanks!
[10:49] <revelater> ompaul: do i need it?
[10:50] <ompaul> revelater, yes
[10:50] <flodine> what do i need for mplayer to play my movies?
[10:50] <Marble2> Why does my system clock always speed up, and display the wrong time. How can I make it update every 5 minutes with a ntp server (I already tried the one that says Periodically update with ntp server, it doesn't do it often enough for my likeing)
[10:50] <flodine> it just stop
[10:50] <dyce> how do i remove a folder via terminal?
[10:50] <dyce> i made a folder with root
[10:50] <ompaul> revelater, it is the subsystem that allows the objects in gnome talk to each other
[10:50] <dyce> on my user desktop
[10:50] <Xenguy> dyce: you mean 'directory' ;-)
[10:50] <rafx> is ubuntu going to have a server-oriented version?
[10:50] <JonnySlack> dyce, rm -r /path/to/your/folder
[10:50] <dyce> ya
[10:51] <revelater> ompaul: im not running gnome...
[10:51] <dyce> im coming from windows lol
[10:51] <Xenguy> dyce: hehe
[10:51] <ompaul> revelater, what are you running kde?
[10:51] <nickrud> Marble2: apt-get install chrony. It will sync your clock properly
[10:51] <dyce> thanks jonny
[10:51] <JonnySlack> oh
[10:51] <revelater> ompaul: fluxbox
[10:51] <JonnySlack> dyce, in that case...
[10:51] <Xenguy> dyce: rmdir /path/to/directory
[10:51] <Xenguy> dyce: if it is empty
[10:51] <JonnySlack> dyce, sudo rm -r /path/to/your/folder
[10:51] <JonnySlack> Xenguy, he's not on windows 'now'..
[10:52] <Xenguy> JonnySlack: really
[10:52] <flodine> why wont mplayer play movies guy
[10:52] <flodine> what else do i need
[10:53] <JonnySlack> Xenguy, and then I just gave the rmdir command to see it work... sigh... well either way would work.
[10:53] <flodine> holla back
[10:53] <Xenguy> JonnySlack: no worries ;-)
[10:53] <ompaul> revelater, okay, so one minor question, if you do not need it you can remove it, so if you plan on not running gnome again kill it, but I ask a simple question, why bother, it is not like it is running atm
[10:53] <Zugot> is anyone here testing breezy yet?
[10:54] <tbird> Zugot, yeah
[10:54] <JonnySlack> I wish ubuntu was based off slackware... that would be killer! hehe (don't hurt me)
[10:54] <ompaul> revelater, if you do kill it off and want to run a gnome program then you will have to reinstall it and all its friends
[10:54] <revelater> ompaul: no, but it is eating up memory at the moment, and i don't like being shorted memory (getting more later, but for now i only got a half gig)
[10:55] <dyce> ok
[10:55] <atho> guys
[10:55] <atho> in the ubuntu liveCD
[10:55] <atho> how do i mount my HD
[10:55] <ompaul> revelater, a half a gig should be fine with ubuntu, I run it on a couple of boxes with a 1/4
[10:55] <atho> it's at /dev/hdc
[10:55] <flodine> just got suse 9.3 pro and took it off ubuntu rocks all others
[10:55] <flodine> wow
[10:55] <tbird> atho, mount /media/cdrom
[10:56] <Xenguy> kyncani: well he did say 'jab me' ;-)
[10:56] <JonnySlack> kyncani, ouch...
[10:56] <Marble2> how can I set something up so that a certain command runs every 5 minutes
[10:56] <atho> "Cant find /media/cdrom"
[10:56] <kyncani> :p
[10:56] <JonnySlack> ;(
[10:56] <atho> im already booted in the livecd
[10:56] <ompaul> Marble2, have a look at how to run jobs in cron
[10:56] <revelater> ompaul: i can run debian kde on a quarter gig p3...
[10:56] <ompaul> Marble2, also look at the at command
[10:56] <revelater> ompaul: and it is FAST
[10:56] <tbird> atho, have you tried mount /dev/hdc ?
[10:56] <\sh> any /etc/network/interfaces geeks around?
[10:56] <dyce> based on this tutorial
[10:56] <atho> yes
[10:56] <dyce> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[10:56] <Xenguy> Marble2: what command do you want to run every 5 minutes BTW?
[10:57] <Marble2> sync with a ntp server
[10:57] <Xenguy> ahh
[10:57] <dyce> how do i install wireless_tools.27?
[10:57] <tbird> ok, dunno then never used the livecd
[10:57] <Marble2> my system clock runs fast, the gui option doesn't sync often enough
[10:57] <nickrud> Marble2: man crontab man 5 crontab
[10:57] <cavediver> Marble2: you can sync every minute if you want.
[10:57] <Marble2> cavediver: how?
[10:58] <cavediver> Marble2: read some about crontab
[10:58] <Marble2> 5 minutes was just off the top of my head. it will probably be more often then that
[10:58] <kyncani> whoo, ubuntu is rolling its own ntp server ntp.ubuntulinux.org :)
[10:58] <cavediver> Marble2: something must be wrong with your hardware.
[10:58] <JonnySlack> ****** <-- COOL! irc blocks out your password...
[10:58] <Marble2> cavediver: it always ran fine in windows, and this just started recently
[10:58] <Marble2> so I'm thinking it's an ubuntu probably
[10:59] <Marble2> but I'm really burnt out at fixing stuff, I just want to use an ntp server to keep it current
[10:59] <cavediver> I don't think software can change the speed on the bios clock.
[10:59] <ompaul> JonnySlack, yeah we all read bash.org when not helping :-)
[10:59] <Zugot> i'm running breezy under a vmware session...
[10:59] <Marble2> well I dunno, but something is wrong
[10:59] <JonnySlack> ompaul, I just read it...
[10:59] <JonnySlack> ompaul, funny stuff
[10:59] <Zugot> i may just get the kernel from it and use it on my hoary install\
[11:00] <dyce> what is sudo?
[11:01] <dyce> is it the same as "su"
[11:01] <Marble2> dyce: run commands that require root access
[11:01] <Marble2> but as another user
[11:01] <dyce> oh
[11:01] <dyce> what is su?
[11:01] <JonnySlack> switch user
[11:01] <deepnarc> su is 'set user'
[11:01] <dyce> ok
[11:01] <ompaul> su= Change user ID or become super-user
[11:01] <dyce> like
[11:02] <deepnarc> dyce: su lets you run commands as another user
[11:02] <dyce> when i extract ndiswrapper
[11:02] <dyce> i have to cd to it
[11:02] <ompaul> sudo,  execute a command as another user
[11:02] <Phoenix|ZzzZzz> Im having some trouble with my network on my ubuntu box
[11:02] <deepnarc> dyce: sudo lets you run commands as though you were another user, without actually changing user
[11:02] <dyce> ok
[11:02] <Phoenix_Zero> I cant seem to get ifconfig to work the way I need to
[11:02] <dyce> like sudo -s -H
[11:02] <JonnySlack> and what do you need it to do?
[11:02] <Phoenix_Zero> I want to have my network card (eth1) set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:02] <dyce> to install a module
[11:03] <Phoenix_Zero> but whenever I set it that way I cant ping anything
[11:03] <Phoenix_Zero> with the subnet <IP_ADDRESS> (so I can communicate with my 192.168.2.x boxes)
[11:03] <JonnySlack> sudo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:03] <dyce> someone who has wlan set up plz guide me
[11:03] <Phoenix_Zero> ok now how do I set the netmask and DNS servers?
[11:03] <JonnySlack> Just put it into the 192.168.2.x IP range
[11:04] <Phoenix_Zero> sorry for the dumb questions, Im just not used to linux networking
[11:04] <deepnarc> dyce: are you installing from source or from apt?
[11:04] <dyce> source
[11:04] <dyce> it wants me to make install
[11:04] <JonnySlack> you can always run the config scripts in ubuntu.
[11:04] <Marble2> can someone help me with crontabs?>
[11:04] <Phoenix_Zero> Johnny, sorry? I have it as <IP_ADDRESS> . Are you telling me to place its IP as 192.168.2.x?
[11:04] <Phoenix_Zero> basically I just want it statically configured
[11:04] <deepnarc> dyce: ndiswrapper is part of ubuntu repositories now, much easier!
[11:04] <Phoenix_Zero> but whenever  I do that it cant reach the rest of the network anymore
[11:04] <Marble2> I'm reading online, and it says how to run something every day at a specified time, but how do I do it at a certain interval, i.e every 1 minute
[11:05] <dyce> REALLY?
[11:05] <JonnySlack> Phoenix_Zero, if you are trying to ping 192.168.2.x boxen that is.
[11:05] <Phoenix_Zero> what I want is its IP to be <IP_ADDRESS>, its subnet to be <IP_ADDRESS> and the primary DNS to be <IP_ADDRESS> secondary dns to be <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:05] <dyce> can i pm u deepnarc?
[11:05] <Zugot> i need a new laptop
[11:05] <JonnySlack> is the secondary DNS your router (with dhcp turned off)???
[11:05] <Zugot> i just can't develop code at 1280x800
[11:05] <dyce> Zugot: me 2
[11:05] <Phoenix_Zero> but whenever I set it that way manually with the Kontrol Konsole I cant resolve ANYTHING and when I try to ping google.com for isntance it says unreachable
[11:06] <Zugot> dyce: my laptop is pretty sweet otherwise tough
[11:06] <Zugot> er though
[11:06] <Phoenix_Zero> "network is unreachable"
[11:06] <deepnarc> dyce: probably, if I could work out how to use this flaming chat client...
[11:06] <dyce> min eis a 400mhz
[11:06] <dyce> mine is*
[11:06] <dyce> amd k6
[11:06] <dyce> 3e
[11:06] <dyce> 3d
[11:06] <JonnySlack> Phoenix_Zero, and setting up a router to give your MAC address a reserved IP is not an option?
[11:06] <dyce> after i set up ndiswrapper
[11:06] <dyce> im gonna put fluxbox
[11:07] <Zugot> dyce: i believe mine runs at 2GHz..  and its an amd64 3200
[11:07] <Phoenix_Zero> the routers fucks up with it
[11:07] <Zugot> i wish i had a 1600x1200 screen
[11:07] <JonnySlack> 1.4 athlon xp here...
[11:07] <JonnySlack> 1.4ghz that is... 1600+
[11:07] <Marble2> can I use spaces in a crontab file?
[11:07] <Marble2> or does it need quotes around it?
[11:07] <Phoenix_Zero> it worked in debian....:(
[11:07] <Zugot> 1.5GB of memory helps out alot
[11:07] <penguinparty> my alsa is borked and I cant get it fixed
[11:07] <nickrud> Marble2  a line something like:  1-60/2 * * * * will run every two minuts
[11:07] <penguinparty> donno how to get my sound card working
[11:07] <JonnySlack> alsaconfig?
[11:08] <Zugot> nickrud: how about */2 * * * *
[11:08] <penguinparty> no alsaconfig on my box
[11:08] <ompaul> Phoenix_Zero, you do have a gateway from one network to the other
[11:08] <nickrud> Zugot: I'm conservative :)
[11:08] <Phoenix_Zero> what is alsaconfig?
[11:08] <Phoenix_Zero> ya I believe I do
[11:08] <Zugot> nickrud: i'm a lazy unix admin
[11:08] <JonnySlack> Phoenix_Zero, a config program for alsa
[11:08] <dphase> anyone using breezy yet?
[11:08] <Phoenix_Zero> my windows boxen can ping 192.168.2.x even though theyre mainly 192.168.1.x
[11:09] <Zugot> dphase: i have it running in a vmware window right now
[11:09] <tbird> dphase, i use it
[11:09] <Zugot> i need to upgrade my laptop to 2.6.11 and i may just upgrade the whole thing this afternoon
[11:10] <deepnarc> dyce: ndiswrapper is marked as 'ndiswrapper-utils' for the client side programs (in 'restricted' repository I think), kernel side is already installed to the kernel...
[11:10] <Marble2> where is the default crontab file located?
[11:10] <nickrud> Zugot: I'm not an admin, that's why my stuff needs clarity, so I'll understand it a year later :)
[11:10] <Phoenix_Zero> Im really confused here
[11:10] <Zugot> nickrud: i have hundres of linux servers at work
[11:11] <nickrud> Zugot: I've got one machine at home :)
[11:11] <Phoenix_Zero> it can ping <IP_ADDRESS>, it can ping <IP_ADDRESS> (my local DNS) but it cant ping anything by name
[11:12] <jordanau> there haven't been any hoary updates in the last few days, is that normal? Or am I having problems?
[11:12] <deepnarc> Phoenix_Zero: your name resolution is buggered (technical term)
[11:12] <ompaul> Marble2, to find files on a machine there are a couple of standard ways - one is to run updatedb and this will create/update  a db of all files on a system then files in that can be found b ytyping `locate file_name_or_part_of_name | more` the | more bit is used if you have a long list
[11:12] <Phoenix_Zero> deepnarc: the windows boxes can ping each other
[11:12] <Zugot> nickrud: i only use one machine at home... vmware has to be one of my favorite purchases..  my laptop runs ubuntu, and i have a windows xp running in vmware and i'm playing with ubuntu breezy in another vmware session
[11:12] <Phoenix_Zero> and the windows boxes can ping the linux box by its host name
[11:12] <Xenguy> Marble2: what ompaul said, except use 'less' instead of 'more' as your pager :-)
[11:13] <ulas2> AilleantSian, private me....
[11:13] <Marble2> I keep getting this
[11:13] <Marble2> no crontab for greg - using an empty one
[11:13] <Marble2> crontab: installing new crontab
[11:13] <Marble2> "/tmp/crontab.Zhvpf3/crontab":0: bad minute
[11:13] <Marble2> errors in crontab file, can't install.
[11:13] <Marble2> Do you want to retry the same edit?
[11:13] <Marble2> wth?
[11:13] <limer> =P~  Giant has chex mix for a buck.  go get some ppl
[11:13] <penguinparty> hi there im using hoary and my alsa is borked
[11:13] <Marble2> I can't add one
[11:13] <penguinparty> not sure how to get it going
[11:13] <Phoenix_Zero> dammit!
[11:13] <ompaul> Marble2, you know what Xenguy has a good one there  :) you can also type which _command_name_ and get the path to a command
[11:13] <penguinparty> using an au8820 card
[11:13] <Phoenix_Zero> I tried disabling the interface so I could reenable it
[11:13] <deepnarc> Phoenix_Zero: what's in /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:13] <Phoenix_Zero> but now it wont reenable!
[11:14] <ompaul> Marble2, as long as it is on your path :)
[11:14] <nickrud> Zugot: Yeah, If I had vmware I'd be doing the same (without XP, I'm finally free after 5 years)
[11:14] <Phoenix_Zero> now I cant even reenable eth1
[11:14] <Xenguy> Marble2: your syntax is *almost* correct, but not quite ;-)
[11:14] <Marble2> i was running crontab -eu greg
[11:14] <Marble2> what's wrong with that?
[11:14] <Xenguy> Marble2: if it is just 1 line, why not paste it here?
[11:14] <deepnarc> oops got to go...
[11:15] <Phoenix_Zero> great...now how do I reenable this thing?
[11:15] <Zugot> nickrud: the job uses windows xp... so i have outlook running in and visio..   nothing compares to visio
[11:15] <Xenguy> Marble2: it's the line in the crontab file that needs tweaking I bet
[11:15] <Marble2> oh the crontab line is messed so it can't save?
[11:15] <Marble2> or what
[11:15] <Xenguy> yes
[11:15] <Xenguy> likely
[11:15] <ompaul> Zugot, dia does
[11:15] <Marble2> 1-60 * * * * sudo /usr/sbin/ntpdate ntp0.amc.anl.gov
[11:15] <ompaul> perhaps :)
[11:15] <Zugot> ompaul: no it does... seriously..
[11:15] <penguinparty> what does a RIP in the DMESG mean?
[11:15] <Zugot> ompaul: no it doesn't... seriously.. they aren't even in the same leauge
[11:16] <kakalto> penguinparty, perhaps D Message
[11:16] <ompaul> Zugot, I do not concur that file extentions make the application :)
[11:16] <kakalto> I wouldn't know
[11:16] <Xenguy> Marble2: try */5 instead
[11:16] <Phoenix_Zero> how can I get the network running right? would someone please help me?
[11:16] <Zugot> 1 - 60 isn't going to get you anywhere...
[11:16] <penguinparty> so I get a RIP on au8820:vortex_core_init
[11:16] <Marble2> Xenguy: I want it to happen once every minute
[11:16] <Xenguy> Marble2: */1
[11:16] <Zugot> if you want it to run every minute, just do * * * * *
[11:16] <penguinparty> cant see any /dev/dsp
[11:16] <Zugot> ever 2 seconds... */2 * * * *
[11:17] <penguinparty> no sound :(
[11:17] <Zugot> and if you want to use numbers, use 0 - 59
[11:17] <Marble2> yay
[11:17] <Marble2> worked
[11:17] <Zugot> there isn't a 60'th second
[11:17] <Marble2> thanks Xenguy
[11:17] <ompaul> Zugot, and there I will agree with you :)
[11:17] <penguinparty> is there problems with alsa in 2.6.11?
[11:17] <Xenguy> Zugot: there are not seconds, no?
[11:17] <Xenguy> Marble2: yw
[11:18] <Zugot> Xenguy: cron doesn't have resolution in seconds
[11:18] <Thanatermesis> what are more new? hoary or warty ?
[11:18] <Phoenix_Zero> ok I have it up again
[11:18] <eruin> argh, I wish rbox didn't segfault on me :D
[11:18] <Phoenix_Zero> but it still wont ping anything outside my internal network!
[11:18] <Zugot> now ... you guys might want to check out ntpd
[11:18] <Phoenix_Zero> would someone please help me?
[11:18] <Xenguy> Zugot: that was my point :-)  I must have misunderstood your previous comment
[11:18] <penguinparty> Thanatermesis: hoary
[11:18] <|QuaD-> anyone having problems with spellcheck and OOo2 writer in breezy (or hoary, same version)
[11:18] <rmilun> ok ppl,i finished problem with rights on fat partition,i now have normal root account too....now can anyone tell me how to get ubuntu into console mode only,without X,since i have NVIDIA drivers on my PC?and also once more explanation how to get my intel 536ep modem working please!
[11:18] <Thanatermesis> thx
[11:18] <Zugot> if you are running ntpdate every minute, you have bigger problems
[11:19] <Zugot> ompaul: oh and i tried to use dia..  after converting some large drawings over, i just find it isn't as easy to use
[11:19] <|QuaD-> ntupdate is for network time?
[11:19] <Xenguy> Marble2: every minute is probably overkill BTW, but it's yer call :-)
[11:19] <penguinparty> ok hoary is getting very frustrating with sound problems .. . It was all working under warty
[11:19] <nickrud> Marble2: and you'll eventually annoy your ntp server
[11:20] <jordanau> gnomebaker has agonizingly slow mp3 > wav conversion, anyone know anything faster?
[11:21] <Phoenix_Zero> ....please? I really need help getting my network to work...
[11:21] <penguinparty> so anyone know how to troubleshoot alsa
[11:21] <penguinparty> Phoenix: what is the problem
[11:21] <Phoenix_Zero> well
[11:21] <Phoenix_Zero> when I installed ubuntu
[11:21] <nickrud> Marble2: check out chrony. It syncs your clock, works nicely on intermittent networks
[11:21] <Phoenix_Zero> it automatically DHCPed the connection
[11:21] <Phoenix_Zero> so it gave me <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <|QuaD-> nickrud: when i needed microsecond accuracy on an embedded system i was detecting, i synced with my ntp server every few minutes
[11:21] <Phoenix_Zero> however, I want to give it the static IP <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <rmilun> again,can anyone explain me how to get into console mode only with ubuntu,and how to install intel536ep modem drivers?
[11:22] <nickrud> |QuaD-: your own private server, right?
[11:22] <DanglyBits> is there a online database of programs available for ubuntu?
[11:22] <ompaul> Zugot, I do not use it for large work, so I can't comment on that, however I have used it and found it fast and responsive. how many objects did you have in the large drawings?
[11:22] <|QuaD-> nickrud: for that project i had one
[11:22] <penguinparty> Phoenix: you know the netmask . and stuff for your static connection?
[11:22] <Phoenix_Zero> so I went into control console and changed it to <IP_ADDRESS> and changed the subnet to <IP_ADDRESS> so it can ping my 192.168.2.x boxes (the other machines can ping this fine) but now whenever I try to ping anything outside my local network it says "Connect: Network is unreachable" and I even have the default gateway set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:22] <alexissoft> i've now an other problem with gnopernicus
[11:22] <alexissoft> i've a lot of warnings like that
[11:23] <Deathwind> DanglyBits, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has the packages available on ubuntu's servers
[11:23] <alexissoft> (srcore:11450): gnopernicus-WARNING **: Unable to find parameter
[11:23] <penguinparty> Phoenix: on the command line what does route say?
[11:23] <nickrud> |QuaD-: I think a second or two off is not an issue for most of us :)
[11:23] <Phoenix_Zero> um..how do I dispaly the route with the command line?
[11:23] <penguinparty> Phoenix: just type "route"
[11:23] <Zugot> ompaul: i have a viso doc with about 500 objects
[11:24] <ompaul> Zugot, okay that might be interesting :)
[11:24] <DanglyBits> Deathwind: what's breezy in packages.ubuntu.com?
[11:24] <Zugot> the doc is so large, it won't even open on my windows xp desktop with 256MB of memory without some crazy swapping
[11:24] <markuman> wtf is with powernowd and cpufrequd
[11:24] <Zugot> ompaul: its 5MB
[11:24] <penguinparty> Phoenix: you should have a default route under destiantion
[11:24] <nickrud> OK, can anyone top this: I used visio on windows 1.04
[11:24] <mjg59> markuman: ?
[11:24] <|QuaD-> nickrud: i have an old win2k box (at my other house) that rarely gets used, it is currently 15 minutes off :)
[11:24] <markuman> if i installed one, is the other one not there
[11:24] <markuman> strange
[11:24] <mjg59> markuman: You should only use one of them.
[11:24] <rmilun> is it possible noone can help me? :) again:running ubuntu in console mode,and installing drivers for my intel 536ep modem :)
[11:24] <Phoenix_Zero> when I do what? when I ifconfig?
[11:24] <ompaul> Zugot, want to send it to me
[11:24] <mjg59> They both do the same thing.
[11:25] <Zugot> ompaul: nah...   not really... its a work document with specific ips....
[11:25] <penguinparty> Phoenix: just type "route"
[11:25] <tbird> you can always use arp to change the ip address
[11:25] <markuman> hm, and what is better for amd64? mjg59, or doesn't metter whitch
[11:25] <Phoenix_Zero> k
[11:25] <Phoenix_Zero> ok
[11:25] <DanglyBits> ANYONE ?? know what breezy is, in the packages.ubuntu.com?
[11:26] <nickrud> |QuaD-: My windows98 partition (still there, just not used anymore) is 9 hours off (utc you know :)
[11:26] <ompaul> Zugot, fine - but now I know it is a network map on visio I can go to some windows people and ask them to build me a network in it :)
[11:26] <DanglyBits> is it a new distro?
[11:26] <alexmr> OLA galera acabei de instalar o Ubuntu e nao me lembro de ter inserido a senha do root em lugar algum. Alguem me ajuda ?
[11:26] <thenuke> DanglyBits: yes
[11:26] <tbird> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/
[11:26] <Phoenix_Zero> "Kernel IP routing table" under destination it says <IP_ADDRESS>, under gatway it says *, under genmask <IP_ADDRESS> under Flags U, under Metric 0 under Ref 0 under iface eth1
[11:26] <alexmr> is in english here ?
[11:26] <ompaul> DanglyBits, it will be
[11:26] <DanglyBits> where can breezy be downloaded?
[11:26] <penguinparty> Phoenix: there is no default under destiantion?
[11:26] <thenuke> DanglyBits: don tuse it.
[11:26] <DanglyBits> why?
[11:26] <LC0> hi
[11:26] <joha> Hi all!
[11:26] <Phoenix_Zero> under destination it reads "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[11:26] <Zugot> anyone here custom compiles their kernels?   i know how to create a new kernel, i just want to make sure i'm doing it the ubuntu way
[11:27] <LC0> it is not a really ubuntu question, but....
[11:27] <thenuke> DanglyBits: it will broke your system propably sooner than later
[11:27] <tbird> DanglyBits, i upgraded from hoary
[11:27] <joha> I'm trying to get my printer working under Ubuntu, but I can't select Parallel Port, only USB...
[11:27] <rmilun> well,i will ask again,running Ubuntu in console mode installing NVIDIA drivers and intel 536ep modem,can anyone help me?
[11:27] <penguinparty> Phoenix: ok you need to open the file at /etc/network/interfaces
[11:27] <penguinparty> Phoenix: as root or sudo
[11:27] <LC0> yesterday i bought a 17'' samsung crt monitor. Then, i can't set any graphics mode in xorg in hoary
[11:27] <djm62> rmilun: ctrl-alt-f1 to get into console mode
[11:27] <LC0> but warty livecd works
[11:27] <Phoenix_Zero> got it open
[11:27] <limer> is gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg required for totem with sound?  I can play video, but no sound
[11:28] <|QuaD-> nickrud: i actually think that the problem with the win2k system is the system time is messed up (on the bios) and i am too lazy to fix it (or something that the ntp isn't touching). I had my family boot to a linux live cd and the ntp didn't solve the issue (i had them boot for other reasons) but it is an old 400mhz pentium i don't care about anymore (until they give it to me to run linux on :) )
[11:28] <thenuke> DanglyBits: using breezy is like using alpha-version of windows longhorn
[11:28] <alexmr> how I do to know the root password of my system. I'm just install it now but I don't remenber the password!!?
[11:28] <rmilun> djm62,thanks about that,i will solve that one problem...just i dont know how to instal modem drivers!
[11:28] <penguinparty> Phoenix: you should have a entry auto eth0
[11:28] <Zugot> breezy is cool as of right this second.   i won't speak for next week
[11:28] <ompaul> DanglyBits, if you want breezy have a look at cdimage.ubuntu.com if you want to - be aware it will break often on you - and you can then code your way out of the breaks, if you can't do this then you should use hoary
[11:28] <DanglyBits> thenuke:  can packages from breezy be used under hoary?
[11:28] <Phoenix_Zero> I dont see auto eth0 anywhere
[11:28] <nickrud> |QuaD-: I think there's an option in ntp to update the hardware clock to the system clock.
[11:28] <tbird> alexmr, there is no default root passwd you use sudo
[11:28] <LC0> a simple question: is dangerous to change a tft monitor to a crt one?
[11:28] <limer> |QuaD-: change the battery on the mobo
[11:28] <penguinparty> Phoenix: what is in the file?
[11:29] <djm62> rmilun: modem? I don't use one anymore...google for ubuntu and your particular model, and if that doesn't work, linux and your model
[11:29] <Zugot> but breezy is really just hoary right now.   not much work has gone into it
[11:29] <joha> Can somebody help me get my printer going, please?
[11:29] <djm62> LC0: I'm not sure what you mean
[11:29] <tbird> Zugot, there has been alot uf updates to breezy
[11:29] <Zugot> breezy is still using the same kernel...
[11:29] <nickrud> joha: what kind of printer, so I know if I can help
[11:29] <rmilun> djm62,i have drivers,i installed them easily in slackware,but ubuntu asks for kernel source....so any help is good...someone mentioned i dont need kernel?or something?
[11:29] <Zugot> tbird: they have been mostly minor
[11:29] <thenuke> DanglyBits: dunno, you most likely dont need newer packages than what you have with hoary
[11:30] <Zugot> i'll be happy when they upgrade mono to 1.1.x
[11:30] <tbird> Zugot, true
[11:30] <Zugot> newer 2.6.11 kernel
[11:30] <limer> tbird: nice to see you again :)
[11:30] <LC0> djm62, i bought yesterday a 17'' samsung syncmaster monitor, and then i can't set any graphic modes in xorg
[11:30] <tbird> Hey limer
[11:30] <DanglyBits> is there any software to handle ups?
[11:30] <nickrud> Zugot: that's about the time I'll be switching, wanna see beagle without any work.
[11:30] <limer> is gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg required for totem with sound?  I can play video, but no sound
[11:30] <Zugot> nickrud: beagle is very interesting to me...
[11:30] <|QuaD-> nickrud, limer: yeah, i never really cared enough, the computer gets used maybe twice a month for my mother to check her aol email (when she forgets to check it at work, or is expecting some). i haven't used in in well over 2 years, and she doesn't complain about it, so i am not too worried.
[11:30] <joha> nickrud: Actually, I'm not even at the model selection: the parport is not shown, only USB ports, but I need the parport
[11:30] <djm62> rmilun: you can get the kernel source...apt-cache search for it
[11:30] <LC0> i tried with all combination of refresh rates: the documentation of monitor is pretty bad
[11:30] <Zugot> i'm going to work a beagle like product for kde
[11:31] <limer> |QuaD-: that's cool man
[11:31] <djm62> LC0: I think it's dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:31] <ompaul> DanglyBits, you could do the following command `sudo apt-cache search ups` and see what that returns
[11:31] <Zugot> i need to work on my mythtv box today
[11:31] <Zugot> i just can't convince myself to get on it
[11:31] <djm62> Zugot: kde happy with c#?
[11:31] <LC0> djm62, i know, i executed xorgconfig
[11:31] <cavediver> Man, have you heard the lugradio ubuntu jingle ? :=) I't so fun :)
[11:31] <alexmr> OK, but if I want to discover the root password, how do I do ?
[11:32] <Zugot> djm62: nope... i'll port it to c++ if i have to
[11:32] <ompaul> cavediver, gime a url
[11:32] <djm62> LC0: have you googled the monitor and "linux"?
[11:32] <|QuaD-> Zugot: there is a kde beagle project happening (not claled that, not a port) do you want the link?
[11:32] <cavediver> hang on a sec
[11:32] <tbird> alexmr, sudo passwd root
[11:32] <LC0> yes
[11:32] <ompaul> it will get ./ed from here
[11:32] <Zugot> |QuaD-: yes i do ...
[11:32] <nickrud> joha: warty or hoary, and what software are you using to install the printer
[11:32] <nicoOoO> hello
[11:32] <|QuaD-> Zugot: lemme find it
[11:32] <tbird> alexmr, and create a passwd for root
[11:32] <LC0> djm62, yes: all pages don't contain good information of that
[11:32] <ompaul> nicoOoO, hello
[11:33] <alexmr> alexmr@neno:~$ sudo passwd root
[11:33] <alexmr> Password:
[11:33] <alexmr> Sorry, try again.
[11:33] <alexmr> Password:
[11:33] <alexmr> sudo: 1 incorrect password attempt
[11:33] <alexmr> alexmr@neno:~$
[11:33] <joha> nickrud: Hoary. I'm going through "System" > "Administration" > "Printing"
[11:33] <cavediver> ompaul: http://helium.terminal.se/dump
[11:33] <Zugot> i need to get another gig stick of memory for the laptop
[11:33] <tbird> alexmr, works here
[11:33] <Zugot> i'm swapping and i have 1.5gb of memory
[11:33] <cavediver> ompaul: one version is with the lugradio ppl singing :)
[11:33] <|QuaD-> Zugot: http://dot.kde.org/1113428593/
[11:33] <LC0> and i can't install in windows agp drivers and graphic ones since i've installed this monitor :S
[11:33] <Zugot> thanks
[11:33] <|QuaD-> Zugot: conceptually it is a little different, but it is the same idea as to what the final product does
[11:34] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:34] <tbird> alexmr, type your user passwd first
[11:34] <limer> alexmr: did you change root's passwd?
[11:34] <tbird> then a root passwd
[11:34] <LC0> confrey, hi
[11:34] <soccer45202> i have a general question...i was a long time fedora user before picking up warty for its RC a while back...i am now running hoary and am playing around with a pvr-500 card that uses the ivtv drivers...i have compiled and installed the drivers, but have a question about modules.conf - is that even still used anymore?  I do not seem to even have the file on my computer
[11:34] <nickrud> joha: I assume you selected "use another printer" and parallel is not there?
[11:34] <alexmr> Ok, let-me try
[11:35] <Obsidians> When I try to do "apt-get install build-essentials" it says "Need to get 0B/2562kB of archives." and then gets to "0% [Working'
[11:35] <Obsidians> ] " and doesn't do anything.
[11:35] <eruin> soccer45202: use /etc/modules
[11:35] <soccer45202> eruin, same type of usage?
[11:35] <eruin> just spit out the module name there
[11:35] <eruin> ;)
[11:35] <alexmr> tbird, Ok work here, very thanks
[11:35] <confrey> my thunderbird in hoary crashes when I try to import something (in addressbook or mail); I have a segfault in run-mozilla.sh; what can I do?
[11:35] <tbird> alexmr, np
[11:36] <ompaul> cavediver, got that idea :)
[11:36] <dyce> i need serious help
[11:36] <joha> nickrud: Yes. And I'm very confused, since "lsmod" says "parport" is loaded, and "dmesg" says a port had been detected...
[11:36] <dyce> i cant use apt-get since i cant config wlan
[11:36] <nickrud> joha, my next questions :)
[11:36] <nicoOoO> i have troubles to play DVDs (i HAVE installed libdvdcss2 and w32codecs): the message [when i click on "Play Disc"]  is:
[11:36] <nicoOoO> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)2, systemstream=(boolean)false
[11:36] <nicoOoO> ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-ac3
[11:36] <nicoOoO> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-dvd-subpicture
[11:36] <nicoOoO> any idea?
[11:36] <ompaul> playing the oother one now a few times
[11:36] <soccer45202> eruin, what about alias lines and options lines?
[11:36] <dyce> i cant use apt-get since i cant config wlan
[11:36] <dyce> doesnt ubuntu already have wlan support in it?
[11:36] <alexmr> tbird, are you american ?
[11:37] <dyce> how do i access it?
[11:37] <nickrud> joha, do you have parport_pc loaded
[11:37] <joha> nickrud: Yes :)
[11:37] <eruin> soccer45202: no need for alias lines afaik
[11:37] <nicoOoO> s/HAVE installed/DID install/  :p
[11:37] <eruin> soccer45202: and I've never had to use options ;-)
[11:37] <soccer45202> alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
[11:37] <soccer45202> alias char-major-81 videodev
[11:37] <soccer45202> alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
[11:37] <soccer45202> options cx25840 no_black_magic=1
[11:37] <soccer45202> options ivtv ivtv_std=0 tuner=57,57 tda9887=0,0 ivtv_debug=1
[11:37] <soccer45202>
[11:37] <soccer45202> options cx25840 i2c_enable=1
[11:37] <soccer45202> options saa7127 i2c_enable=-1
[11:37] <nickrud> joha, I'd file a bug about that.
[11:37] <|QuaD-> so, i am not sure where to ask this, so i hope this is the correct place. I am looking to purchase a ubuntu hoary based shell (monthly fee) with a good uptime (free would be better, but i don't mind paying). does anyone know where i could do so? (if not ubuntu based, debian based)
[11:38] <djm62> dyce: what does iwconfig say?
[11:38] <soccer45202> eruin, i need to put those settings for my capture card..how would i do that with /etc/modules
[11:38] <LycoN> Ok I just got Cedega 4.3.1 and in Counter-strike 1.6 my fps is stuck on 4... Help
[11:39] <Obsidians> When I try to do "apt-get install build-essentials" it says "Need to get 0B/2562kB of archives." and then gets to "0% [Working] " and then doesn't do anything. I need to install that package, what do I do?
[11:39] <eruin> soccer45202: I think that's supposed to be in modprobe.conf
[11:39] <eruin> man modprobe.conf
[11:40] <LycoN> obsidians try sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[11:40] <nickrud> soccer45202: put those lines in a file and drop it into /etc/modprobe.d/
[11:40] <Obsidians> LycoN: Yes..... that's what I was doing..... it gets stuck at 0%.
[11:40] <LycoN> u did it with sudo
[11:40] <soccer45202> nickrud, does it matter what the file name or permissions are?
[11:41] <FR500> Obsidians:  maybe u use a proxy?
[11:41] <Obsidians> LycoN: Yes.  I don't think I do. I mean, I have a router, but all the other apt-gets have always worked. They still work, I think. This one just doesn't.
[11:41] <nickrud> soccer45202: no, and no.  It will read those files in lexical order a-zA-z, etc
[11:41] <DanglyBits> are there any ubuntu programs that show sever settings like in Redhat Linux?
[11:42] <nickrud> soccer45202: no, and no.  It will read those files in lexical order a-zA-Z, etc (oops)
[11:42] <FR500> try synaptic
[11:42] <soccer45202> nickrud, thanks!
[11:42] <LycoN> well can ne help me i have got steam running thru cedega and when i play counter-strike 1.6 my fps is stuck on 4... and i have Xorg 6.2 installed
[11:42] <ompaul> DanglyBits, like the stuff where you set what services are running?
[11:42] <FR500> can i mount an ext3 partition in windows?
[11:42] <DanglyBits> ompaul: yes
[11:42] <FR500> LycoN:  what vidcard?
[11:43] <LycoN> i have 9800 pro
[11:43] <RustyShackleford> What is the difference in terms of apps between Kubuntu and Ubuntu?
[11:43] <InitMass> is eclipse availible in hoary by default?
[11:43] <LycoN> should be able to get over 100 fps
[11:43] <Deathwind> ob1kenewb, just an idea...see if you have a build-essientals*.deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:43] <Deathwind> er Obsidians
[11:44] <DanglyBits> Ubuntu is GNOME version..KUBUNTU is KDE version
[11:44] <LC0> InitMass, not, you must install it
[11:44] <dyce> is there a kwifisetup for gnome?
[11:44] <LycoN> but like it is weird my fps is stuck on
[11:44] <nickrud> RustyShackleford: ubuntu -> gnome (good) kubuntu -> kde (bad) :)
[11:44] <LycoN> 4
[11:44] <DanglyBits> ompaul: yes...any suggestions?
[11:44] <InitMass> LC0, but is it possible to do it with apt-get?
[11:44] <dyce> is there a kwifisetup for gnome?????????????????????
[11:44] <Echylo> how do you change permissions for a whole map & its sub directories
[11:44] <InitMass> LC0, and if so, which is the package?
[11:45] <RustyShackleford> I personally like the looks of KDE better.
[11:45] <LC0> InitMass, don't remember, i've installed it from the sun webpage
[11:45] <ompaul> DanglyBits, what you want is this sysv-rc-conf   (please have patience after all I had to go and find it - it is not something I use every day :))
[11:45] <joha> nickrud: mmkay, thx
[11:45] <InitMass> LC0, is it good to use for developing java and php?
[11:46] <DanglyBits> ompaul: thanks..is it gui based or commandline?
[11:46] <ompaul> DanglyBits, curses
[11:46] <ompaul> DanglyBits, or ncurses
[11:46] <LC0> InitMass, java and php are for different purposes. Php is for web applications. I prefer C++ rather than Java
[11:47] <ompaul> DanglyBits, so I suppose you start it with a command line and then press tab to your hearts content with some other keys :)
[11:47] <LycoN> Ok what linux driver is equivalent to 9800 pro driver in windows????
[11:47] <LC0> anyone knows a hardware discussion channel? i was trying to find it, but i can't...
[11:48] <ompaul> lc0 is there an embedded channel?
[11:48] <InitMass> LC0, i know they are made for different purposes but is eclipse good for developing them?
[11:48] <LC0> ompaul, don't know
[11:48] <LC0> InitMass, eclipse is good for everything :)
[11:49] <RustyShackleford> Can somebody link me to the Screen Resolution Fix Guide?
[11:49] <monkey89> aloha - is it possible to block a repository's version of a certain package?
[11:49] <LycoN> 9800 pro driver in windows = What linux driver?
[11:49] <monkey89> LycoN, ati-drivers
[11:49] <InitMass> LC0, i will start an education with java developing involved so i think i have to learn java
[11:49] <djm62> dyce: System->Administration->Networking
[11:49] <ompaul> ln -s RustyShackleford  Screen Resolution Fix Guide   ( or you could use gnome-control-centre and do it there )
[11:50] <LycoN> i have them all
[11:50] <LycoN> then
[11:50] <InitMass> LC0, i guess java is better for platform independant dev. am i right?
[11:50] <LycoN> so y is my fps stuck on 4 in counter-strike 1.6 thru cedega
[11:50] <FR500> LycoN:  ati-drivers in synapti
[11:50] <FR500> and the glx thing
[11:50] <nickrud> RustyShackleford: you get 60hz only?
[11:50] <LC0> InitMass, totally right
[11:50] <Sionide> Currently playing: Daft Punk - Something About Us
[11:50] <ompaul> InitMass, python might be the thing there
[11:50] <Quest-Master> InitMass: I'd much rather go for Python
[11:50] <LC0> InitMass, but all Java apps runs over a virtual machine, so they are too much slower
[11:51] <InitMass> ompaul, is python OO. i don't think so
[11:51] <Quest-Master> InitMass: umm, yes it is
[11:51] <djm62> InitMass: python is very much OO
[11:51] <dyce> hey guys i need some serious help
[11:51] <ompaul> InitMass, Ich do think so :)
[11:51] <RustyShackleford> I'm getting 640x480 at 60 Hz.  I'm assuming the guide works for Kubuntu also.
[11:51] <pune> hey does anyone know why when I log onto a terminal and enter the command su I can't get my password to work
[11:51] <Quest-Master> InitMass: Python is probably more OO than Java
[11:51] <LC0> python = pseudo-code
[11:51] <djm62> dyce: did you see my above messages?
[11:51] <InitMass> Quest-Master, and platform independant?
[11:51] <Quest-Master> InitMass: sure is.
[11:51] <dyce> no
[11:51] <kyncani> pune: sudo -s
[11:51] <ompaul> InitMass, it is or I would not have said it - best editor for it idle
[11:51] <InitMass> Quest-Master, is python easy to learn, compared to other languages?
[11:51] <dyce> i was beating my head agaist the wall
[11:52] <ice_1963> try sudo
[11:52] <Quest-Master> InitMass: yes. Easy to learn, easy to use.
[11:52] <nickrud> RustyShackleford: X is X, it don't matter.
[11:52] <djm62> dyce: menu: System->Administration->Networking
[11:52] <InitMass> ompaul, best editor for dev of python is IDLE?
[11:52] <dyce> look, i have no internet connection for my ubuntu box
[11:52] <ompaul> yes
[11:52] <Quest-Master> InitMass: It, Ruby, and other languages of the short have development times that are fractions compared to those of Java's or C's.
[11:52] <dyce> i need wlan to get internet
[11:52] <Quest-Master> InitMass: I use ScITE and Quanta for Python.. don't like IDLE much
[11:52] <djm62> dyce: if that doesn't help you configure wlan, then type iwconfig to see if your card is registered
[11:52] <LC0> a question: how can i reinstall grub in mbr from a livecd?
[11:52] <nickrud> RustyShackleford: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find the Monitor section, and see what vertrefresh and horizrefresh say
[11:53] <kyncani> InitMass: vim, emacs and eric ;)
[11:53] <LC0> i tried with grub-install, but nothing
[11:53] <InitMass> i want an editor with utf8 support
[11:53] <Quest-Master> LC0: Use the Ubuntu install CD for that. http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:53] <djm62> dyce: type iwconfig in a terminal, of course
[11:53] <dyce> ill try
[11:53] <dyce> to see if it works
[11:53] <ompaul> apt-get install scite lets have a look then
[11:53] <RustyShackleford> No vertrefresh or horisync
[11:53] <dyce> i would use apt-get but i cant
[11:54] <LC0> Quest-Master, the ubuntu install will delete all information of one disk if you do that, am i right?
[11:54] <Quest-Master> LC0: Nope
[11:54] <djm62> dyce: apt-get is not the issue here ;)
[11:54] <Quest-Master> LC0: Just go to Ubuntuguide.. they have a guide on how to do it there. It simple restores GRUB, nothing else
[11:54] <nickrud> OK, what's your model name & number (monitor)
[11:54] <LC0> ok, thanks :)
[11:54] <RustyShackleford> Its a laptop.  Dell Inspirion 1100
[11:55] <InitMass> Quest-Master, ompaul, kyncani, the problem is that i can't come up with any idea for a program. all apps that i need already excist.
[11:55] <Echylo> how can I change file permissions in folders & subdirectory's with one command?
[11:55] <dyce> no wireless extensions
[11:55] <pune> kyncani, that's the command you use?
[11:55] <djm62> dyce: what type of card is it? is it supported by linux?
[11:55] <kyncani> pune: yep, to get a root shell
[11:55] <InitMass> Quest-Master, ompaul, kyncani, and the editor i am after has to be able to make use of utf8
[11:55] <JonnySlack> Oh, now that I think about it... upgrading to hoary from warty broke my ET installation.
[11:55] <dyce> at the hp site
[11:55] <dyce> i saw my card
[11:55] <Quest-Master> InitMass: Quanta rocks
[11:55] <JonnySlack> it just stays at a black screen.
[11:56] <cocaxx> hi
[11:56] <Echylo> hello
[11:56] <nickrud> I don't laptop :)  try googling for your laptop (dell, etc) with 'xorg.conf' This should pull up some configs
[11:56] <djm62> dyce: when you type iwconfig, none of the cards are listed?
[11:56] <LC0> bye all
[11:57] <djm62> dyce: is it a pcmcia card?
[11:57] <dyce> it says lo and sit0
[11:57] <dyce> no, its a usb adapter
[11:57] <InitMass> Quest-Master, even if you are not using kde?
[11:57] <waseem> do you guys know any good cdrippers into mp3 files?
[11:57] <djm62> dyce: try plugging/unplugging it and iwconfig...in case it gets hotplugged
[11:58] <dyce> ok
[11:58] <djm62> waseem: sound-juicer
[11:58] <bwlang> waseem: i like abcde (it's command line)
[11:58] <djm62> rmilun: any luck?
[11:59] <dyce> it still has no wireless extension for "lo and sit0
[11:59] <ice_1963> sound-juicer mp3 plug  need's
[11:59] <RustyShackleford> I've got the file opened up in Kate and i'm ready to save, but it says I don't have access.
[11:59] <djm62> dyce: that's fine: neither of them should have...but it hasn't loaded the module for your card
[11:59] <dyce> so do i need to load them manually?