[06:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | jdp123321
[06:11] <MissValeska> No, I am not
[06:11] <k1l> MissValeska: what does "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get upgrade" give you? (please pastebin)
[06:11] <MissValeska> I have teamviewer, Which you can connect to if you want.
[06:11] <jdp123321> sorry my internet is screwy. didnt know if it sent or not.
[06:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> MissValeska: not a good idear to just let random folk teamview you.
[06:12] <MissValeska> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:12] <skillpiG> ubottu - I like you
[06:12] <skillpiG> for a digital being
[06:12] <marcusk> theadmin: Like for example any home directoy that might be on the system. Just reinstalling the system won't give them back, you'll have to recover from backup in that case.
[06:12] <skillpiG> i love you ubottu
[06:12] <theadmin> marcusk: Well, home folders are an easy fix
[06:13] <theadmin> marcusk: Because you always know who exactly owns them
[06:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: exactly
[06:13] <theadmin> marcusk: But... Stuff like apache's directories are owned by weirdos like www-data etc...
[06:13] <Immatix> geez, tinc in raring isn't even updated
[06:14] <fluo75> Hi all, problem with CD of Ubuntu-gnome 13.04, impossible de go any further than Grub, I get a blank screen and then nothing. I tried nomodeset with any success. It's a brand new PC with only crappy win8. Any ideas? (try booting from CD & USB)
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> fluo75, You familiar with the uefi wiki?
[06:15] <theadmin> fluo75: Is it 64-bit?
[06:15] <marcusk> theadmin: It depends. I have several files in my home directory that have different group owners by design.
[06:15] <theadmin> fluo75: Only 64-bit versions of Ubuntu support UEFI.
[06:15] <theadmin> marcusk: Ah, well, that's a rare case
[06:16] <fluo75> Yes 64 bit version. (ubuntu-gnome version)
[06:17] <theadmin> fluo75: Where did you find that, by the way? I can't find any wobsite for that edition of any sort
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, There is gnome only spin
[06:18] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: Yeah I know, which is what I'm asking, what's the site/page for it?
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> I figured you probably knew. ;)
[06:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> you may like xubuntu. I've fallen in love, its soooooo lightweight and customizable
[06:19] <theadmin> Oh, hamsters. No website.
[06:19] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Nay, I like Unity myself, I just try to keep track of all the official editions to be able to provide support
[06:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> blech. oh well, to each his own ;)
[06:23] <jimg> Hi, upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04 and machine has frozen (mouse and keyboard). It happened at "Replace the customised configuration file '/etc/gnome/defaults.list'?" while I was scrolling through the diff
[06:23] <jimg> Any advice?
[06:24] <theadmin> jimg: Happened to me too. What I did was a hard reset, followed by "sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". It may not work well for you, though, but it did for me
[06:25] <skillpiG> theadmin - you appear to be a guru in these quarters
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> jimg: yes. have a separate /home partition and never use the upgrade. re-install, do *not* tell it to use the /home partition, then after install is complete edit the fstab to automount the /home partition.
[06:25] <theadmin> skillpiG: Well, I've been using Ubuntu a lot since Intrepid
[06:25] <skillpiG> I recently upgraded my mobo/cpu etc and I ran into some problems
[06:25] <jimg> theadmin: thanks. I thought I might be able to try something before a hard reset but I'll give that a try
[06:25] <skillpiG> the one core is at 100% the whole time and I struggle to use the mouse :/
[06:25] <skillpiG> this was in 12.10 x64
[06:26] <skillpiG> CPU is the FX-8350
[06:26] <Immatix> hmm https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tinc
[06:26] <skillpiG> top reported no service or application utilizing much of the processor, but the overall information at the top said 100% CPU utilization
[06:27] <ThatOneRoadie> for 13.10, the default kernel is 3.8.0-19 yes?
[06:27] <jimg> ntzrmtthihu777: just so I'm clear are you saying that it is much safer to reinstall Ubuntu every release, rather than upgrade?
[06:28] <tomreyn> is it correct that the ubuntu-partner repository no longer provides adobe-flash?
[06:28] <skillpiG> don't worry theadmin - I'm sure it will be patched or fixed with 13.04, I was dual booting win8 and 12.10
[06:28] <Ben64> ThatOneRoadie: #ubuntu+1 for 13.10
[06:28] <tomreyn> ...starting with raring
[06:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> jimg: I have lost track of how many folk I see in here asking the very same question you did.
[06:28] <skillpiG> so I'll just wait it out, atleast my laptop is running ubuntu fine at work :>
[06:28] <skillpiG> <:
[06:28] <skillpiG> >:
[06:28] <theadmin> tomreyn: Seems so :(
[06:28] <theadmin> tomreyn: The main repos still have flashplugin-installer
[06:28] <ThatOneRoadie> %s/13.10/13.04
[06:28] <tomreyn> theadmin: yes, i was just wondering whether anyone is aware of a strategic decision by canonical there
[06:28] <ThatOneRoadie> for 13.04, the default kernel is 3.8.0-19 yes?
[06:29] <jimg> ntzrmtthihu777: Interesting to know.  Thanks
[06:29] <theadmin> ThatOneRoadie: Indeed.
[06:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> jimg: and make sure you do *not* choose to use the /home partition durin the partitioning; as it will overwrite your $HOME dir if you chose the same username.
[06:29] <Ben64> ThatOneRoadie: good, because 13.10 isn't even started yet
[06:29] <jimg> ntzrmtthihu777: got it
[06:30] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Huhwha? No it won't, the installer reuses existing user directories if possible. Well, unless you tell it to format /home of course.
[06:30]  * ThatOneRoadie prays the SAN install completed
[06:30] <cebor> how can i activate ubuntu-webapps @ 13.04, must i install the ppa ?? with google-chrome
[06:31] <ThatOneRoadie> otherwise this upgrade is going to be a royal pain
[06:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: I was very specific in not telling it to format it, but still my stuff vanished.
[06:31] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: That's very odd, I did an install a while ago and it kept everything, same username
[06:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> perhaps a bug, or maybe a human error on my part, but it takes very little skill to change a line in /etc/fstab
[06:31] <theadmin> cebor: Chrome isn't supported by Ubuntu at all
[06:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> and so I feel much safer with it in my hands than in the hands of the machine.
[06:32] <ThatOneRoadie> theadmin: there's a version of chrome out for ubuntu o.O
[06:32] <docvell> is 13.04 out now or later on today?
[06:32] <theadmin> ThatOneRoadie: Yes, but it's not supported *by* Ubuntu, as in the Ubuntu developerss.
[06:32] <ThatOneRoadie> ah
[06:32] <theadmin> docvell: Yesterday :P
[06:32] <ThatOneRoadie> ^
[06:32] <theadmin> cebor: They work fine in Chromium though.
[06:33] <ThatOneRoadie> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:33] <docvell> ah ok
[06:33] <ThatOneRoadie> whoops, VM didn't focus. sorry.
[06:33] <helmut_> hi
[06:33] <cebor> thx
[06:33] <we6jbo> Hi
[06:34] <cebor> theadmin: ok i installed gmail with firefox, now works with chrome
[06:34] <theadmin> Is there a way to bring the dual-pane mode for Nautilus back in 13.04?
[06:34] <docvell> thanks for the info
[06:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: dual pane? whazzat, and is raring gonna take it from me?
[06:35] <crimsonmane> theadmin: you mean F3 ?
[06:35] <exeter> i have installed ralink rt3290 driver(for ubuntu 12.10) on my laptop dual booted wih win 8 as my wi-fi wasnt working , but after installation as soon as i enable my wifi my system crashes . What should i do>>>
[06:35] <theadmin> crimsonmane: Yep, doesn't work on Raring :/
[06:35] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: It's kind of like what mc, FAR, Norton Commander and such others do
[06:35] <crimsonmane> theadmin: check the settings in nautilus...
[06:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: I have no idea what/who any of that is XD
[06:36] <theadmin> crimsonmane: Where exactly? I can't find anything related.
[06:36] <crimsonmane> theadmin: i wouldn't know. perhaps google will help us
[06:37] <theadmin> Seems the GNOME team decided to remove a very useful feature. Again.
[06:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> /bin/sh: 1: emote: not found
[06:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah shit!!!! I forgot about backing up my script *cries*
[06:38] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_file_manager
[06:38] <crimsonmane> theadmin: i thought it was a Nautilus feature not gnome. i have the feature in Dolphin
[06:38] <belgianguy> hi, I'm still not able to execut .sh scripts from within Nautilus
[06:38] <theadmin> crimsonmane: Nautilus is part of the GNOME project
[06:39] <crimsonmane> belgianguy: right click the .sh file, select "allow execute as program"
[06:39] <theadmin> belgianguy: Right click them, go to Properties, Permissions, allow executing file as program
[06:39] <belgianguy> I used to get a prompt whether I wanted to open it or run it
[06:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: ah, gotcah.
[06:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> belgianguy: it needs x permissions.
[06:39] <sirronb> quit
[06:39] <theadmin> belgianguy: Also, now Nautilus defaults to displaying them. Preferences -> Behaviour -> Executable text files -> Ask each time to bring back the old one
[06:40] <belgianguy> crimsonmane theadmin I set it to executable, but it won't do it
[06:40] <belgianguy> theadmin: ahh, that might be it
[06:41] <belgianguy> http://i.imgur.com/PnnaOZI.png
[06:41] <theadmin> belgianguy: I don't speak Finnish or whatever that is
[06:42] <belgianguy> theadmin: that'd be Dutch, but you were right
[06:42] <crimsonmane> theadmin: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/nautilus-patch-brings-missing-file-manager-features-back-to-ubuntu
[06:42] <belgianguy> it's the 'ask each time' flag
[06:43] <theadmin> crimsonmane: 'tis for 12.04, but thanks anyway. Not like I really need that feature, it was just handy. Eh well.
[06:43] <crimsonmane> yeah i use it constantly
[06:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh. I rather am glad I was able to get the "desktop grid" feature without compiz
[06:45] <tomreyn> theadmin: i guess flashplugin-installer is of limited use:    "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>0.orig.tar.gz"
[06:46] <theadmin> tomreyn: It's still the original Flash plugin and will work all the same
[06:46] <nitin_> hii... how to change settings of laptop web cam
[06:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> tomreyn: it downloads it and automates the install.
[06:46] <theadmin> tomreyn: Except you won't get the Flash Player Settings app, but you can use the web-based settings manager adobe provides anyways
[06:46] <tomreyn> ntzrmtthihu777: it downloads it from the ubuntu partner repository, which, we assume, will not get any updates.
[06:46] <theadmin> nitin_: Details?
[06:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> nitin_: what you trying to do?
[06:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> tomreyn: it works fine with me :P
[06:47] <nitin_> i want to set the brightness
[06:47] <theadmin> tomreyn: Flash for Linux has been dropped by Adobe. It won't get any updates ever, at all
[06:47] <tomreyn> theadmin: i'm referring to security updates
[06:47] <theadmin> tomreyn: Except some security fixes (which will be added)
[06:47] <theadmin> tomreyn: Ah, never mind then
[06:48] <nitin_> theadmin, ntzrmtthihu777 i want to set the brightness
[06:48] <exeter> Ubuntu 13.04 supports new machines .. better than 12.10??
[06:48] <theadmin> exeter: Likely.
[06:48] <ak5> what are "new machines"
[06:48] <theadmin> Anyway, I'll be back soon.
[06:48] <theadmin> Maybe.
[06:49] <tomreyn> theadmin, ntzrmtthihu777: so my point is: if canonical dropped support via their partner repositories, then, to get security updates, they would need to be downloded from adobe, not canonical's partner repository. but flashplugin-installer loads it from canonicals' partner repository, at least currently.
[06:51]  * ThatOneRoadie smacks GRUB
[06:54] <ct529> hi everybody! I am finding difficult to control cpu frequency .... in the past your use cpufreq-set .... what can you use now?
[06:55] <wilee-nilee> ct529, install indicator-cpufreq
[06:55] <ct529> wilee-nilee: done already, but how do you use from CLI?  Post-13.04 install, ~407mb left
[06:56] <ThatOneRoadie> is there a post-install cleanup command somewhere
[06:57] <wilee-nilee> ThatOneRoadie, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean
[06:57] <ThatOneRoadie> lol
[06:58] <ThatOneRoadie> I managed to typo sudo differently all three times in that line
[06:58] <ThatOneRoadie> time for bed soon I think
[06:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> XD
[06:58] <wilee-nilee> copy and paste
[06:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> also, bitbleach will clear a buncha crud too
[06:58] <ThatOneRoadie> first, audo, then sudp, then suso
[06:58] <ThatOneRoadie> XD
[06:58] <ThatOneRoadie> fat fingers
[06:58] <ThatOneRoadie> thaaat's better, 1.8gb free
[06:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> don wory, we all had the sudo blues before
[07:04] <bender> hello
[07:04] <bender> i kinda need help
[07:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> ask away
[07:05] <bender> i have the issue that i cannot upgrade to the new 13.04 release
[07:05] <bender> issue is, that i cannot add the gpg key
[07:05] <stoogle> Does anyone know anything about virtual disks in Dell OpenManage web based????????????? i just need to confirm an option to choose as i have added additional HDD's
[07:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> bender: 1. you would be better off with a reinstall.
[07:05] <bender> hmmm
[07:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> bender: 2. do you have a separate /home partition?
[07:07] <bender> well that would be a solution, just to reinstall it
[07:07] <bender> and no i don't
[07:08] <bender> but i don't have really productive data on it.. so... i guess i'm better off doing a reinstall
[07:08] <bender> was hoping to get around it
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> I can't tell you how many times I've seen folk in here with issues doing an upgrade. it never works in my experience.
[07:08] <bender> thanks for the help
[07:08] <Thete> is tightvnc still a good vnc server on Ubuntu?
[07:16] <Kartagis> when is the next LTS? 14.04?
[07:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kartagis: lts are released a year apart from each other.
[07:17] <Ben64> 2 years
[07:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kartagis: the release number reflects their release date.
[07:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: whut? I thought the .04 line were all lts?
[07:17] <Ben64> nope
[07:17] <Ben64> every two years. 8.04, 10.04, 12.04, 14.04, 16.04, etc
[07:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> sho right. so 13.04 is not lts? more reason to stick with precise :P
[07:18] <Ben64> yep, i'm still on 12.04
[07:18] <Thete> The odd # releases have never been LTS
[07:19] <Kartagis> so, I'm right to assume 14.04 is LTS
[07:19] <Thete> probably
[07:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> assuming policy does not change. it can happen.
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> aaand ubuntu successfully upgraded and SAN-booting
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> kickass
[07:21] <cfhowlett> Kartagis, 14.04 will be LTS
[07:21] <Shogoot> Hi people!. The issue: I got a server that i installed vsftpd on, made a user and connected to the server. When the server connects it connects to root... and i have been trying to make /var/www/html as default ftp root and that the user has write/read to that folder as this person is going to upload/download its own html pages and resources...  Another strange  thing is that when i change directory i can change to any directory that is not /var/www/html (
[07:21] <Shogoot> ???) - Anyone that can help me find the solution to this?
[07:21] <cfhowlett> Shogoot, perhaps ask in #ubuntu-server
[07:22] <sw> Hi, can someone explain what the --delete-after option does in rsync as I don't quite understand the man. Does it mean that files/folders that are on the destination but not source any longer are removed?
[07:22] <Thete> so much easier to just use sftp
[07:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> maybe so, but easier and what a person wants/needs are often two entirely different things.
[07:24] <Shogoot>  Thete I need the Jailing to be problem hasse free
[07:24] <marcusk> sw: It deletes extraneous files after the transfer instead of before
[07:25] <marcusk> Thete: Maybe easier, but does something different.
[07:25] <sw> marcusk, So files that are on the destination but no longer in the source?
[07:25] <marcusk> sw: yep
[07:25] <sw> marcusk, Thanks!
[07:25] <crimsonmane> sw: it means it deltes after the transfer is done, not during
[07:26] <crimsonmane> oh you got an answer
[07:26] <crimsonmane> n/m
[07:26] <SecretFire> why doesn't iphone mount in 12.10 if i see it in lsusb?
[07:26] <auronandace> !iphone | SecretFire
[07:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> better yet, avoid iAnything.
[07:27] <slezy> hey everyone. im having a hell of a time with the software center and authentication . im not sure how to fix. if someone could assist me i would be your best friend
[07:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> slezy: sup
[07:28] <slezy> hey!
[07:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details
[07:29] <Gops> Hi i am having ubuntu 10.4
[07:29] <Gops> finding difficulties in installing wireless driver
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Gops, on the desktop ?
[07:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> !eol | Gops
[07:29] <Gops> dwa525
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Gops, 10.04 has reached end of life ... no further support will be forthcoming
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Gops, as of 05/09/13
[07:30] <Gops> but one of my product will work on this version only
[07:30] <cfhowlett> Gops, consider your upgrade options ...
[07:30] <Kquarkq> Hello!, is possible to convert ntsf to ext4?
[07:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Gops: what product
[07:30] <cfhowlett> Gops, what?  ONLY works on 10.04?
[07:30] <Gops> openbravo
[07:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kartagis: short answer, no. long aswer, no.
[07:30] <Ben64> Kquarkq: no, you have to backup, format, and put the files back on
[07:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Gops: and what is openbravo
[07:31] <Kquarkq> thank
[07:31] <Gops> it is an opensource erp application
[07:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> and erp is?
[07:31] <cfhowlett> Gops, are you running 10.04 on the server or desktop?
[07:31] <vlt> cfhowlett: Isn’t a wifi driver part of the server edition and supported until 2015?
[07:31] <Gops> desktop
[07:32] <cfhowlett> Gops,  contact openbravo.  pretty sure they have a method to install on a supported version of ubuntu....
[07:32] <cfhowlett> vlt, depends on the wifi driver
[07:33] <slezy> im pretty sure im on the latest ubuntu 13.4. when i try to install most software i get this error  "Requires installation of untrusted packages The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." right now im trying to install a mtp program so i can trasfer music to my droid
[07:33] <Ben64> https://launchpad.net/~openbravo-isv/+archive/ppa
[07:33] <Ben64> openbravo has a ppa with precise supported
[07:33] <cfhowlett> Gops, in other words, you can and should update to 12.04 then install open bravo.
[07:33] <cfhowlett> Ben64, thanks.
[07:34] <Ben64> little bit of google-fu
[07:34] <cfhowlett> slezy, as stated, the package is unsigned and untrusted.  your choice
[07:35] <slezy> i went to this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1626757 and used Synaptic Package Manager and fallowed the detections and still cant figure it out.
[07:36] <ItsMeLenny> in the network manager, what is "link local only" and "shared to other computers", I've google link local only over and over and returned nothing helpful
[07:36] <Shogoot> Hi people!. The issue: I got a server that i installed vsftpd on, made a user and connected to the server. When the server connects it connects to root... and i have been trying to make /var/www/html as default ftp root and that the user has write/read to that folder as this person is going to upload/download its own html pages and resources...  Another strange  thing is that when i change directory i can change to any directory that is not /var/www/html (
[07:36] <Shogoot> ???) - Anyone that can help me find the solution to this?
[07:37] <ItsMeLenny> slezy,  thats because you dont have the gpg key for whereever the packages are coming from
[07:38] <slezy> i dont know what that is. let me do some googleing and i will be back. thankyou
[07:38] <lapdis> I was ssh:ing in to my server while upgrading. I was on the screen "do you want to restart some packages" when the ssh session died. Can I just reboot the server and be fine, or how do I continue the upgrade?
[07:38] <ItsMeLenny> Shogoot, usually with ftp you can change into any directory, always has happened when I've connected to other peoples ftps, the thing is if it has read write access, one can still change directories, just not see in it or write to it
[07:39] <stoogle> i have 4x 1tb drives running in an external raidarray. It's mounted. I have just slotted in another 8x 1tb drives. However they are listed as "inactive" obviously because they have not been mounted. What is the best way to add them into the mount with out losing any data?
[07:39] <chaos7theory> Anyone else having trouble executing shell scripts via double-clicking on 13.04?
[07:39] <Gops> txs was able to get the drivers up
[07:39] <Gops> txs for all the support
[07:39] <Gops> now i am going to have a beer
[07:39] <ItsMeLenny> wow, nowonder there is no help in this irc, everyone just has problems
[07:39] <vlt> !details | stoogle
[07:39] <Thete> Is steam not x64?
[07:40] <chaos7theory> Steam isn't x64 even on Windows.
[07:40] <Shogoot> ItsMeLenny, I get to change directory AND se its conntent on all of the directory tree eexcept /var/www/html ....
[07:40] <stoogle> vlt: what details are you after? it's a md1000 raid array. im not sure how to tell what type of raid its running???
[07:40] <Thete> lame
[07:41] <vlt> stoogle: /proc/mdstat, blkid, fdisk, fstab, mount
[07:42] <stoogle> wow i dont remember, it was that long ago. how do i tell?? so sorry <--- nub here. I set it up with a little help from someone over chat and it was a long time ago.
[07:42] <Neozonz> how do i set something up so it automatically runs at start up?
[07:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> startup programs
[07:42] <Neozonz> from console?
[07:42] <abi_> any one who can help me on heroku app?
[07:42] <Neozonz> like add a daemon type service
[07:43] <vlt> Neozonz: Have a look at rc.local
[07:43] <slezy> so if i wanna install this gmtp program (or any non authenticated program) i need to find its gpg key and add it to the authenticated source?
[07:44] <stoogle> vlt: there is nothing in rc.local
[07:44]  * vlt shrugs
[07:44] <sonofzeus> hey
[07:45] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[07:45] <sonofzeus> anyone knows how to enter these commands in the terminal: cd /usr/src svn co [https://xbtt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xbtt/trunk/xbt/misc][7]{: target=”_blank”} xbt/misc svn co [https://xbtt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xbtt/trunk/xbt/Tracker][8]{: target=”_blank”} xbt/Tracker
[07:45] <sonofzeus> I'd really appreciate any help.
[07:46] <vlt> sonofzeus: First clean the URL
[07:46] <stoogle> vlt: this is what dell openmanage shows me currently: http://www.freweb.com.au/whatitscurrentlyshowing.txt
[07:49] <Jonne> anyone else have an issue connecting to cifs drives mentioned in /etc/fstab ?
[07:49] <Jonne> sudo mount -a just hangs
[07:50] <Jonne> used to work great until i upgraded this morning (still on 12.10, but all the latest updates)
[07:50] <chaos7theory> ... Wow, there's no way to scroll up in X-Chat :/
[07:51] <Anpu> heya, where can I find Ubuntu evolving circle (the one on ubnutu mobile) countdown that was sitting on Ubuntu site before reveal ubuntu phone?
[07:51] <Anpu> it was kind of animated js stuff
[07:51] <al-maisan> Installed ubuntu 13.04 this morning with an encrypted partition but /etc/crypttab is apparently ignored i.e. there is no password prompt upon boot-up
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> chaos7theory: try pg up and pg dwn
[07:51] <al-maisan> any ideas why that might be?
[07:51] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i seemingly received a message on screen
[07:51] <chaos7theory> ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks
[07:51] <XATRIX> Welcome to Ubuntu 13.04 'Raring Ringtail'
[07:51] <XATRIX> It asks me to upgrade
[07:52] <XATRIX> Is it ok to ?
[07:52] <XATRIX> Or it is very alpha
[07:52] <chaos7theory> There seems to be a lot of annoying idiosyncrasies with 13.04 that I didn't expect.
[07:52] <bentinata> hello
[07:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> XATRIX: I wouldnt, even if it is stable. upgrade works poorly in my experience
[07:52] <XATRIX> chaos7theory: so, you don't advice to , do you ?
[07:52] <XATRIX> ntzrmtthihu777: you mean, it's better to complete reinstall ?
[07:52] <chaos7theory> It's just too buggy overall at the moment.
[07:53] <bentinata> I accidentally "sudo rm /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf"
[07:53] <bentinata> any help?
[07:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> XATRIX: yup.
[07:53] <chaos7theory> "Don't fix it if it ain't broke."
 Dell backup and Recovery ruined my bootloader, and 12.04.2 doesn't have native drives for Intel HD Graphics 4000
[07:54] <bentinata> is it a big problem?
[07:55] <bentinata> anyone?
[07:56] <al-maisan> bentinata: wanna me to pastebin a copy of that file somewhere?
[07:56] <bentinata> al-maisan: sure!
[07:56] <al-maisan> I don't think I ever edited it i.e. it should be the default one ..
[07:57] <bentinata> :D
[07:57] <al-maisan> bentinata: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603736/
[08:00] <cebor> my screen does not dim after while idling on battery mode  ubuntu 13.04
[08:00] <spacepoet> how do I mount something??
[08:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> spacepoet: sudo mount what where
[08:01] <spacepoet> so would "sudo mount your-mom" bed  work?
[08:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> spacepoet: only if you
[08:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> re  a necrophiliac
[08:04] <spacepoet> whats a necrophiliac
[08:04] <spacepoet> is that a flower?
[08:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> =_= are you serious?
[08:04] <ssadab> My computer has an ambient light sensor, can this be made to work in Ubuntu?
[08:07] <bergqvistjl> Hi, is there any way to use the new Gwibber without using the gnome-control-centre-signon package (I use Arch Linux, yet it appears that gwibber now has hard-coded ubuntu only dependencies?
[08:07] <Kartagis> ntzrmtthihu777: I have a rather delayed question because my CPU load was high. I say I assume 14.04 will be a LTS, and some people here confirm, but you say I'm wrong. that leaves me confused
[08:08] <ssadab> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes I am serious
[08:09] <Kartagis> ssadab: no need to be rude. you could have given another example of sudo mount. you could also have looked necrophiliac up.
[08:10] <ssadab> Kartagis: ??? Where was I rude and where did I give an example of sudo mount?
[08:10] <Ben64> ssadab: he's confusing you with someone else
[08:10] <Kartagis> ssadab: sorry, I got disconnected
[08:11] <ssadab> Kartagis: Ah ok, I was just asking about an ambient light sensor on my computer used to auto adjust brightness and whether it can be configured to work in Ubuntu
[08:11] <Kartagis> that's spacepoet
[08:12] <Kartagis> spacepoet: no need to be rude. you could have given another example of sudo mount. you could also have looked necrophiliac up.
[08:12] <Kartagis> we are all volunteers here
[08:12] <spacepoet> Kartagis: was that rude? that was just a funny banter to lighten the mood
[08:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> ssadab: I was not speaking to you.
[08:12] <jony> how can I change the "save as" keyboard shortcut?
[08:13] <Kartagis> spacepoet: yo momma jokes are never funny. well, maybe in '90s
[08:13] <spacepoet> Kartagis: I find them quite amusing myself and from my experience other people do too
[08:13] <esing> Hey
[08:13] <spacepoet> Kartagis: must be where you're from
[08:14] <sonofzeus> Washington usa kartagis
[08:14] <Kartagis> jony: you can't, unless you dig into the source of whatever software
[08:14] <Kartagis> sonofzeus: ?
[08:14] <spacepoet> ssadab: who made the light sensor?
[08:15] <kai> hi folks
[08:15] <sonofzeus> Hi kai
[08:15] <kai> is there a trick to setting up an encrypted LVM in 13.04 that only spans part of the disk?
[08:15] <ssadab> Lenovo
[08:16] <kai> Basically I really want /etc, /home, /var, /tmp and swap and other sensitive areas encrypted, but I don't want to pay the performance penalty for /data
[08:16] <chaos7theory> I hate this computer right now ;-;
[08:16] <hero616> when i in xfce DE and shutting down the computer, I can see some process cannot being killed. this is not a big problem. but when i in gnome3 or unity, the shutting down process hung there.
[08:17] <kai> my old 10.04 setup had that, using the ncurses installer. at least the Xubuntu installer doesn't seem to get it right
[08:17] <celso> hi people! does someone knows where is the shutdown log file and its name?
[08:18] <celso> hero616 is it related to atombios error?
[08:18] <crazyj> installed ubuntu alongside windows. whats best way to remove windows, merge partitions, remove promt whether i want to bott ubuntu or windows
[08:18] <crazyj> boot*
[08:18] <hero616> no, it's related to fglrx-legacy driver
[08:18] <chaos7theory> I got the wireless adapter driver to work, it recognizes SSIDs in the top menu, but when I try to connect to the router, it's just sitting there constantly trying until it stops a minute later with no message or anything..
[08:18] <celso> ahhh ok. i am having issues on shutdown but related to atom bios.
[08:19] <jony> how can I change the "save as" keyboard shortcut? in 12.04 I had changed, so it can be done...
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> crazyj, This a uefi windows?
[08:20] <crazyj> 32bit
[08:20] <cfhowlett> crazyj, if you're sure you no longer want windows, you can boot ubuntu from cd/usb, then use disk utilities to remove windows partitions and reassign the freed spaced
[08:21] <chaos7theory> Is there some sort of setting I should change?
[08:21] <crazyj> cfhowlett: will that remove  the choice between ubuntu and windows? (i have dual booted to windows oses before and removed one, had to manually remove the option to boot into it.
[08:21] <hero616> i want find a way to shutting down computer even S20sendsigs failed.
[08:21] <Neozonz> Anyone know what this means 2013-04-26 08:21:32.602748 > twisted.web.error.Error: 401 Authorization Required
[08:21] <Neozonz> I keep getting that error when running p2pool
[08:22] <Neozonz> it was working earlier... not sure what happened
[08:22] <Ben64> Neozonz: thats a http error code
[08:22] <cfhowlett> crazyj, update grub should remove the windows option
[08:22] <crazyj> cfhowlett: thanks
[08:23] <cebor> my screen does not dim after while idling on battery mode  ubuntu 13.04, anybody else has this problem
[08:25] <Walex> cebor: please note that on IRC support channels the convention is to take questions literally...
[08:25] <chaos7theory> So, for some reason, Ubuntu 13.04 says that the Wifi eth1, when it should be wlan0
[08:25] <Walex> chaos7theory: thanks for letting us know.
[08:26] <chaos7theory> Not sure if sarcasm.
[08:26] <Foowie> Hello, I've tried to install 13.04 on my ASUS M50V notebook. I've created bootable USB, plugged in and restarted PC. When I selected USB device to boot from the message "bug: soft lockup - cpu#0 stuck for 22s!" shown and I'm not able to do anythink with that. Anybody can help? I've read something about use of older versions of kernels, but how?
[08:26] <Walex> chaos7theory: you have made two statements :-)
[08:26] <Ben64> Walex: be helpful if you're going to respond
[08:30] <Walex> Foowie: it could be any sort of slight compatibility issue between the laptop chipset and the kernel. There are very many variants. You can rebuild the bootable USB image with a different kernel version, but it is not trivial. If possible try to disable as many peripherals as you can in the BIOS in case the bug is related to accessing one of them.
[08:31] <bentinata> can somebody give me little help?
[08:32] <JonasF_> Hi, after upgrade to 13.04 and pm-suspend + wakeup, my fan doesn't turn off any more. How can I fix this?
[08:33] <Foowie> Walex: Thanks, I'll try this. Is it also solution to install 12.10 and do upgrade to 13.04 or the problem after upgrade will remain?
[08:33] <Walex> JonasF_: either by debugging the related kernel module, or by checking whether you can turn it off manually and then putting that command in a script run on wakeup. Suspend is often a tricky operations....
[08:33] <skillpiG> hapl :[
[08:33] <skillpiG> Walex, hapl
[08:34] <bentinata> can somebody give me little help?
[08:34] <skillpiG> do you know the degrees of requiring aid ?
[08:34] <skillpiG> it starts with 'help'
[08:34] <Walex> Foowie: if it is a kernel bug in the 13.04 kernel it will happen no matter how you install it.
[08:34] <skillpiG> then forms over time to 'halp'
[08:34] <bentinata> what is the permission for /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[08:34] <JonasF_> Walex: alright, thank you.
[08:34] <skillpiG> then ends up on the fast typed 'hapl'
[08:34] <Foowie> Walex: ok, thanks :]
[08:34] <Neozonz> ok so I added two sh scripts to /etc/rc.local
[08:35] <Neozonz> but it doesnt look like they are executing?
[08:35] <bentinata> what is the permission for /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[08:35] <Walex> bentinata: usually u=rw,og=r
[08:35] <Walex> Neozonz: have they 'x' permission and usually '#!/bin/sh' as the first line?
[08:36] <bentinata> Walex: so 644?
[08:36] <skillpiG> Walex - do you have some knowledge about hardware support of ubuntu (specifically 12.10)?
[08:36] <skillpiG> specifically about processors
[08:36] <Walex> skillpiG: it is usually considered rude to ask specific questions to specific people. Ask the channel a question and if someone wants to answer you are lucky...
[08:36] <Neozonz> Walex, both scripts have +X, and the rc.local has #!/bin/sh -e
[08:37] <Neozonz> do the scripts have to have #!/bin/sh -e in the top too?
[08:37] <Walex> Neozonz: yes, and usually without the '-e' (which I think should not be in '/etc/rc.local' either).
[08:37] <Speiros> Can someone help me with installation of a new printer to my computer.  I run Ubuntu 10.4, and I'm trying to install a canon mx396.  WINE doesn't execute the exe. files.
[08:37] <Walex> Neozonz: actually "yes" is a bit too strong.
[08:38] <skillpiG> Walex - apologies, I enjoyed your quick responses to the people in here and didn't want to bother the rest
[08:38] <skillpiG> not too much :]
[08:38] <Walex> Speiros: why are you asking a question about MS-Windows EXEs in an ubuntu channel?
[08:38] <bentinata> Walex: thanks :)
[08:38] <Neozonz> Walex, ? is there anyway I can test the rc.local script without rebooting?
[08:38] <Walex> Neozonz: $ /etc/rc.local
[08:38] <Walex> Neozonz: actually more properly
[08:39] <Walex> Neozonz: $ sudo /etc/rc.local
[08:39] <Speiros> Walex, I have ubuntu installed, and I want to load a printer.  I have used WINE before, which would open the drivers (the exe. files) which are windows operated, but it doesn't work.
[08:39] <skillpiG> anyone in here using an AMD FX-8350 on Ubuntu (specifically 12.10) and having problems with 100% utilization after a fresh installation?
[08:39] <Walex> Speiros: why do you want to use MS-Windows drivers for a Ubuntu system?
[08:40] <Speiros> walex I don't.  But the printer comes with exe. files, and wine used to open them once upon a time.
[08:40] <Speiros> walex I just want my printer and scanner to work.
[08:40] <[deXter]> SpindizZzy, Printers/scanners generally work automatically, if they don't you'll have to look for a linux version of the driver. you can't install windows drivers in linux (not directly, anyways)
[08:41] <Walex> Speiros: that's rather the wrong approach.... The Ubuntu prin system is CUPS, and the scanner system is SANE, so you want a CUPS driver and a SANE driver.
[08:41] <endiny> Hello everyone
[08:41] <Speiros> walex thanks.  So I type them into the ubuntu software centre?
[08:41] <Walex> Speiros: however some MFP manufacturer like HP and IIRC also Canon supply integrated packages that contain Ubuntu drivers.
[08:42] <Walex> Speiros: so if printer/scanner are not configured automatically you need to do some web search with the keywords above.
[08:42] <Walex> Speiros: the CUPS drivers are also called sometimes "foomatic" drivers or "PPD"s.
[08:43] <Neozonz> how to i port forward using ufw?
[08:43] <Walex> Speiros: Software Centre might help actually. Just search for canon drivers and look into the list of what is found.
[08:43] <Speiros> walex I see.  Thanks, I'll have a look, and come back:)
[08:43] <Neozonz>  /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9327  I ran this on a machine, but after reboot it doesnt seem to stick... should i add it to rc.local?
[08:44] <Walex> Neozonz: '/etc/rc.local' is one way.
[08:44] <Speiros> walex Thanks mate.
[08:44] <Neozonz> what is the proper way?
[08:44] <Neozonz> lol
[08:44] <jony> how can I install the "gs-esp" package?
[08:44] <Walex> Neozonz: BTW i particularly like 'ferm' rather than 'ufw'.
[08:45] <gustav> Upgrading to Raring was not a good idea...
[08:45] <Walex> Neozonz: ideally as you surmised you would use a package that configures all of 'iptables' for you, as direct use is a bit tricky.
[08:45] <Walex> JonasF_: 'sudo apt-get install ...'
[08:46] <Neozonz> so there is no ufw command for port forwarding?
[08:46] <endiny> Neozonz: btw, you can watch about /etc/iptables.rules
[08:46] <Walex> Neozonz: no idea here, perhaps someone else would know, but 'ufw' questions are a bit of a narrow subject.
[08:46] <Neozonz> endiny, that file doesnt exist on my machine
[08:47] <Walex> Neozonz: on IRC success in getting answers is proportional to how popular the topic of the question is.
[08:47] <antonio__> hey folks
[08:47] <antonio__> Has anyone found a way to use www.gotowebinar.com with Linux?
[08:47] <endiny> Neozonz: u can create it with rules
[08:48] <endiny> and add to /etc/network/interfaces
[08:48] <endiny> pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules
[08:48] <Steam> hi all i have problem with my wireless adapter on laptop, ubuntu cant see it
[08:48] <endiny>   post-down iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules
[08:48] <endiny> Steam: c'est la vie
[08:48] <Steam> english?
[08:50] <Evolve> okay, I've googling this all morning and can't get a clear answer, I've installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my box that has an SSD drive. What do I need to do in terms of protecting my drive? There seems to be a lot of conflicting information out there!
[08:50] <endiny> Steam: r u serious?
[08:50] <Ben64> Steam: it may help you get support here if you provide more details. lspci and/or lsusb to find chipset, what version ubuntu, what brand/model laptop, etc
[08:50] <Steam> yes?
[08:50] <Ben64> endiny: that's not helpful
[08:50] <Steam> ok
[08:50] <endiny> Steam: "that's life" i think
[08:50] <endiny> Ben64: about?
[08:51] <drasko_> where is the stty conf file located? I want to set the nb of rows manually
[08:51] <Ben64> Evolve: if you have enough ram, one thing i would suggest is moving /tmp to ram
[08:52] <Steam> Broadcom BCM4311  802.11  it worked before i updated software with software updater. I am new at Ubuntu so..., at this moment i am using an usb wireless adapter to chat with you
[08:52] <Evolve> Ben64, oh good to know. I've left it on the SSD :$
[08:52] <ct529> anyone who knows about acronym generators applications under ubuntu
[08:52] <ct529> ?
[08:52] <Evolve> I've got a spinning drive where I've put /var /tmp and /home
[08:52] <Ben64> Evolve: it's not a really big deal, but the less useless writes on an ssd the better
[08:53] <Evolve> some sources say it's not good to enable trim and others say you should … I'm at a loss
[08:53] <Ben64> !broadcom | Evolve
[08:53] <Ben64> err...
[08:53] <Ben64> Steam: that broadcom thing is for you
[08:54] <Evolve> lol
[08:54] <Ben64> Evolve: yeah i'm not sure on the trim stuff either
[08:55] <Evolve> Ben64, bit of a dark art it seems
[08:55] <Evolve> hell I might just leave it to its fate! It's only a 64GB crucial drive
[08:55] <drasko_> where is the stty conf file located? I want to set the nb of rows manually, not using stty but writing directly in some file
[08:58] <Rompoy> hi
[08:58] <skillpiG> Hi
[08:59] <ThatOneRoadie> Evolve - Trim is optional. I'd enable it automatically, but that's just me
[09:01] <Evolve> ThatOneRoadie, thanks
[09:04] <Speiros> walex Thanks for your input mate.  The scanner and printer still isn't working from the computer, but I have it saying there're no devices available.
[09:04] <Speiros> walex printer/scanner is on, and connected
[09:05] <karjala> I installed pidgin on Ubuntu 13.04 from the default repo (didn't add PPA) - I'm not getting a system tray icon - What should I do?
[09:05] <ThatOneRoadie> restart nautilus. failing that, reboot
[09:06] <Walex> Speiros: but what kind of driver have you tried to install? BTW not all printers or scanners are supported...
[09:06] <karjala> ThatOneRoadie: I rebooted
[09:06] <Speiros> walex no problem mate.  I'll let you know.  I just got the printer app up, and it seems to be searching for the drivers.
[09:06] <ThatOneRoadie> Remove and reinstall? If that doesn't work, it's possible the 13.04 gmone update borked the systray icon
[09:07] <ThatOneRoadie> My dropbox icon still came up in 13.04... weird
[09:07] <jony> I got the following erron when I want to install a printer driver: Dependency is not satisfiable: gs-esp. Please help!
[09:07] <Walex> Evolve: there are two types of trimming -- constant trimming with mount options like 'discard' and period bu suing the 'fstrim' command. The first slows down disk accesses a bit but is automatic, the second neeeds to be done and a lot of people forget...
[09:07] <ThatOneRoadie> Let me throw pidgin on my 13.04 image. sec
[09:07] <denet> Hello, can someone please post the ubuntu signing key fingerprint? Thank you.
[09:07] <HeKToN> guys I can`t remove icons from the task bar. Is it a but or I`m doing something wrong ?
[09:07] <code-ph0y> hey guys am having a problem with stopping apache2
[09:07] <code-ph0y> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[09:08] <karjala> ThatOneRoadie: I don't think you know what you're talking about
[09:08] <karjala> ThatOneRoadie: Sorry for that comment.
[09:08] <Walex> Speiros: if your printer/scanner are connected by USB, do a search for the USB codes. You can list them with 'lsusb'
[09:08] <code-ph0y> has anyone ran into this problem?
[09:08] <ThatOneRoadie> denet: gpg's are available at http://ubuntu-releases.wallawalla.edu/raring/
[09:09] <denet> ThatOneRoadie, yes, I know, I just wanted to verify the fingerprint using a 2nd channel
[09:09] <Evolve> Walex, yeah just been reading about that and the pros/cons - think I'll live with the slower disk access option
[09:09] <Speiros> walex do you mean on terminal?  so, something like "sudo lsusb"?
[09:10] <Walex> Speiros: yes, put the output on 'paste.ubuntu.com' or equivalent
[09:10] <ThatOneRoadie> karjala: The pidgin icon loaded into the tray on min-- aaand he's gone
[09:10] <Evolve> I just think it's bizarre, SSDs have been out for years, why do we still have all this uncertainty and hacking to do???
[09:10] <Walex> Evolve: that's what I do as well, 'discard' is indeed slower but I don't mind too much. I still do 'fstrim' occasionally.
[09:11] <yahyaa> can some one please tell me why when I close Kubuntu it keeps hanging instead of properly shuting down?
[09:11] <yahyaa> I am using it on a macbook  pro
[09:11] <Speiros> walex thanks
[09:12] <Walex> Evolve: as to uncertainty and hacking: SSDs have a very "anisotropic" performance envelope, and storage firmware is *very* complex, a disk or SSD can rquire hundreds of thousands of lines of code to work, often more than Linux.
[09:13] <Evolve> Walex, lol! crazy. Guess the KISS principle is not an option when it comes to SSDs
[09:13] <Tm_T> Evolve: you mean "paint your face and play crappy disco music"?
[09:14] <Walex> Evolve: most peripherals and standards are developed on Microsoftian principles.
[09:14] <HeKToN> guys I can`t remove icons from the task bar. Is it a but or I`m doing something wrong ?
[09:14] <ThatOneRoadie> HeKToN: Right click and undock from launcher
[09:14] <HeKToN> but = bug in my sentence :D
[09:14] <HeKToN> yeah I did that but still nothing
[09:14] <HeKToN> since I just upgraded ...
[09:14] <ThatOneRoadie> it'll still stay there if the program is still running
[09:15] <HeKToN> well it`s definiteely not because it`s skype which was broken after the upgrade
[09:15] <HeKToN> I removed it like uninstalled it so I wanted to remove the icon... but none of my icons is removable now
[09:16] <SanMysterious> Hi, I am trying to install maven but there are conflicting packages: package libwagon2-java 2.2-3 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/java/wagon-tck-http.jar', which is also in package libwagon-java 1.0.0-2ubuntu2    is there a way to solve this
[09:16] <Evolve> just on a side, what is a reasonable amount of space to allocate to /var and /tmp? I'm thinking of having them on my HDD
[09:17] <SanMysterious> I am @ubuntu 13.04
[09:17] <Walex> Evolve: '/tmp' should really be 'tmpfs' not on disk/SSD. 'var' "depends".
[09:17] <slezy_> hello!
[09:17] <HeKToN> hi
[09:17] <Walex> Evolve: for personal PCs I don't bother with a separate '/var'. Just a separate '/home'.
[09:18] <Walex> yahyaa: it is usually some small ACPI/BIOS bug, it happens a lot with PCs too.
[09:18] <Evolve> Walex, got it … the var bit at least
[09:18] <yahyaa> is there anyway to fix that?
[09:18]  * Evolve is googling tmpfs
[09:19] <Walex> yahyaa: there are many many boot options for various little issue like that, you got to web search...
[09:20] <HeKToN> what this path to folder is changed :~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
[09:20] <HeKToN>  on 13.04 ?
[09:20] <yahyaa> I thoght this was a support chat forum!
[09:20] <yahyaa> is it not?
[09:20] <Walex> Evolve: 'tmpfs' is the same as for '/dev/shm' or '/run'
[09:20] <HeKToN> yahyaa,  it is but unfortunatelly In PC`s world when there is an issue the possible reasons are not just one
[09:20] <Walex> yahyaa: have you got a Platinum Account number? :-)
[09:21] <ANub> !help
[09:21] <yahyaa> no I don't what is that?
[09:21] <hke> hi folks, 12.04 here. i have unity and xfce installed, but only use unity. however, it keeps using the xfce notifyd, how can i make it use notify-osd?
[09:22] <ANub> !isitout
[09:22] <Walex> yahyaa: it is a way to remind you of what HeKToN says... that only a Platinum Account entitles you to an answer within four hours :-), or else you got to do a bit of work too :-)
[09:24] <yahyaa> so if you did not know the answer, then y r you responding to my question?
[09:24] <jony> I got the following erron when I want to install a printer driver: Dependency is not satisfiable: gs-esp. Please help!
[09:24] <yahyaa> If I could figure this out myself I would, however I am new to Linux!!!
[09:25] <HeKToN> me too but after 5 times of hearing what Walex is saying you start actually trying to ask more straight questions after some basic research or more advanced if possible
[09:26] <hke> jony: try sudo "apt-get install -f" in a terminal
[09:26] <hke> jony and do a "sudo apt-get update" before that
[09:27] <Walex> yahyaa: sure, but like with MS-Windows you have to do some bit of work yourself, or else pay a lot of money for someone to do it for you. For example searching for:  shutdown ubuntu macbook pro
[09:27] <jony> hke, it does not help
[09:27] <Walex> yahyaa: what we can do is to put you in the right direction
[09:28] <denet> To confirm, this is the fingerprint of the ubuntu signing key: C598 6B4F 1257 FFA8 6632 CBA7 4618 1433 FBB7 5451
[09:28] <Walex> yahyaa: what we can do is to put you in the right direction if it is a narrow question, or give a straight answer if it is a more generic one.
[09:28] <nxt_> hi
[09:28] <HeKToN> on 13.04 what this folder direcotory`s path is ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc?
[09:28] <Walex> denet: would you trust a key fingerprint given by a random user on IRC? :-)
[09:29] <HeKToN> found it
[09:30] <denet> Walex: yes, if it matches some other sources that I have. My ISP does MitM for SSL (all https traffic is decrypted and reencrypted using ISP's key) "for usability studies", so I need to verify things numerous times.
[09:30] <slezy_> this is awesome . you guys rock. i will be back
[09:31] <jolaren> I'm trying to join #apache but I can't .. so I'll ask the question here since it's a Ubuntu system. I have problems with UTF-8 in domain name.. and I've added charset.. and system locales
[09:32] <Walex> denet: your ISP is pretty sleazy!
[09:32] <voytas> hey guys
[09:32] <HeKToN> me too If after I restart now my drivers are not screwed up :D
[09:32] <voytas> I really need your help
[09:32] <Walex> jolaren: what makes you think that you can use UTF-8 in domain names?
[09:33] <voytas> I have just installed Ubuntu from a USB stick but it was installed on the same disk  partition as windows 8, I want to uninstall Ubuntu
[09:33] <voytas> how can i do it?
 you can use windows 8 installation disk to remove partition
[09:34] <Walex> w 2
[09:34] <jolaren> Walex: IDN characters can't be displayed as utf-8? :/ how are they displayed otherwise without punny Walex ?
[09:34] <voytas> you mean run this usb again ?
 No. I mean if you want to have Windows again .....then use Windows setup DVD / CD
[09:35] <voytas> I have windows because I installed Ubuntu along Windows
[09:35] <voytas> I just want to get rid of ubuntu
[09:36] <HeKToN> ok I managed to remove it from the task bar by dragging it on the desktop but now I can`t remove it from the desktop and this drives me crazy!
[09:36] <Walex> jolaren: IDN is not UTF-8, it is ASCII.
 you can go to windows Control-panel-----Disk- Management option and remove ubuntu partition
[09:37] <voytas> But the problem is that I have installed it on the Windows partition
[09:37] <jolaren> Walex: So how would you go on solving that?
[09:38] <Walex> jolaren: depends what the problem is. Probably the problem is that your browser cannot *display* IDN domains in non-ASCII form.
 yeah this is what i said earlier..........your windows is out.....and you want it back......then install Windows again
[09:38] <jolaren> Walex: works fine in everything but IE
[09:38] <voytas> No, no, no. You don't get it. I am now using Windows. I have two systems on 1 partition.
[09:39] <Walex> jolaren: ahhahahahhahahahahahahahaha please don't mention IE in this channel. Oh my! :-)
[09:39] <HeKToN> :D
 2 systems on 1 partition.......hmm.........thats new to me.....how did you do that
[09:39] <jolaren> Walex: My customeers might be using it :D Chrome 17 says has no support for idn in characters?
[09:39] <Walex> jolaren: also anyhow there are very many variants of that-which-shall-not-be-mentioned, who knows what each does
[09:40] <jolaren> but I agree.. why choose windows when linux offers you a full house
[09:40] <HeKToN> I`ll tell you ANub - it`s VMware :D
[09:40] <jolaren> better terminal yourself with 'whatis microsoft' from time to time
 lol.....yeah may be
[09:40] <voytas> I chose to install it along Windows and chose my hard drive (there was no option to choose which partition to use) and just intalled it
[09:41] <voytas> and when I start my computer I can choose between which system I want to use
[09:41] <Walex> jolaren: if for example your IDN domain name looks good in ASCII and then gets diseconded correctly by Firefox etc. then it is good, and then it is a bug in other browsers.
[09:42] <Walex> jolaren-jobb: consider also testing it with 'http://ipduh.com/dns/'
 if your loader is Windows ...then go to boot.ini and see how many boot lines options there....and what are the partitions
 I think Ubuntu boot disk auto-created partition for you ....but you are unaware of it
[09:43] <jolaren> Walex: It looks really strange
[09:43] <Walex> jolaren-jobb: consider also looking at these tests: http://idn.icann.org/
[09:43] <jolaren> Walex: like it can't display my signs
[09:43] <Walex> jolaren: for me both display fine in the address bar and page content in Firefox
[09:45] <Walex> jolaren: but they display encoded in 'chromium-browser'. Obviously the latter does not support IDN or has it switched off.
[09:45] <jolaren> Walex: if you type in "xn--kbenhavntmrer-bnbi.dk" in there it displays really funky
[09:46] <yahyaa> forget I asked, I am just going to format and reinstall windows 8, then I won't have to worry about these problems!
[09:46] <Twenty-three> hi guys, i upgraded to 13.04 this morning and the upgrade was aborted when the progress bar(?) was around 60%. it claimed "desktop had failed". anyway, after rebooting i didn't notice any problems at all, i opened the software manager and it said some things were broken and it wouldn't install anything new until that was fixed, i clicked on the button to fix and then everything went back to...
[09:46] <Twenty-three> ..."normal" no issues at all, but i'm concerned about it being aborted and i wish to know whether there is a way to verify the install has succeeded or whether it can be finalised properly
[09:46] <yahyaa> good bye liux!
[09:46] <Walex> jolaren: http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/idn-in-google-chrome "all browsers try to protect against homograph attacks by displaying punycode instead of the original IDN if the hostname does not fulfill certain properties"
[09:47] <jolaren> thanks alot Walex
[09:47] <jolaren> Will read up on that*
[09:48] <Kquarkq> Hi
[09:49] <Kquarkq> when us click on unity dash de taskbar stay transparent, how to do it permanent?
[09:49] <Walex> jolaren: BTW reading down on that page Chrome displays the URLs depending on the language the page claims to be.
[09:51] <Kquarkq> when us click on unity dash de taskbar stay semi-transparent, how to do it permanent?
[09:52] <kklaine_> o
[09:52] <iMart1n> hi
[09:53] <niners> hey... I keep having this odd problem with wine (netflix)... evertytime I try and get onto my netflix it tells me it can update the new sivlerlight but doesn't give me an option to say no. I've updated it a few times and it crashes and I have to go into the terminal reupdate it (my roommate helps me out) I'm not Linix or unbuntu savvy quite yet so I'm lost. please help.
[09:53] <Kquarkq> hi
[09:58] <Speiros> walex thanks anyway.  I couldn't get the printer/scanner working.  I don't understand enough of anything typed in here, as to where to type it, what to type,...too much info.   Have you tried their home page or support channel for info?
[09:59] <denet> Is it still supported to boot ubuntu like this: http://pastebin.com/b3cmD3xX
[10:00] <niners> BlueEagle: no I have not... They dont support linix so I never figured there was a point ya know
[10:00] <BlueEagle> niners: Ahh. Well you could also try #wine if noone in here gives anything useful.
[10:01] <niners> BlueEagle: #wine...? huh?
[10:01] <Speiros> walex I appreciate your knowledge and time, help and assistance mate.  I just don't understand enough, and am burnt out.
[10:06] <A7> I would like to ask if anyone with Intel/AMD hybrid graphics has tried to update to 13.04? So far the only thing that has worked for me on 12.10 are the updates from the Andrikos PPA (http://askubuntu.com/a/207270/82517). The only info I have found on the subject indicates failure https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1112695
[10:16] <CQ> hello, are there non-pae kernel packages in ubuntu, or do I need to compile my own kernel?
[10:16] <CQ> I have an ols Pentium M processor on a laptop
[10:17] <bdman32> i have a question, is their a flavour of ubuntu that will run on i686 Architechture with 512MB of ram??
[10:18] <jrib> bdman32: xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu with your choice of lightweight applications
[10:19] <bdman32> jrib:thanks, will give it a go
[10:20] <subthalamus> y does aplay -l say I don't have any sound cards when I'm playing sound through it right now?
[10:21] <tga> greetings
[10:21] <tga> is there a preferred way of installing libreoffice 4 on 12.04?
[10:21] <tga> I don't want pre release stuff, just the regular releases
[10:22] <hyperborean_ro> hello
[10:23] <hyperborean_ro> i got a problem loading gnome 3 session,is there a way to add gnome clasic to session manager tab ?
[10:23] <Sagitt> hi
[10:23] <Sagitt> what is this error at the end of apt-get update?
[10:23] <Sagitt> W: Impossibile recuperare http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg  Si è verificato qualcosa di anormale nella risoluzione di "archive.canonical.com:http" (-11 - Errore di sistema)
[10:23] <Sagitt> E: Impossibile scaricare alcuni file di indice: saranno ignorati o verranno usati quelli vecchi.
[10:23] <hyperborean_ro> atm running session gnome no effects
[10:24] <hyperborean_ro> i`m using Pinguy OS based on ubuntu 12.04,will be any problems ?
[10:25] <tkmostt> hello people
[10:25] <hyperborean_ro> hai
[10:25] <tkmostt> my bluetooth is not working in 13.04
[10:26] <tkmostt> it was working in 12.10 but after some updates or something it was also not working on 1.120
[10:26] <tkmostt> *12.10
[10:26] <tkmostt> in the setiing options  under bluetooth everything is faded
[10:27] <hyperborean_ro> i dont use bluetooth + i`m in need of help aswell,sorry tk
[10:28] <tkmostt> ok :)
[10:28] <hyperborean_ro> gl anyway :D
[10:29] <amitprakash> Hi, post login on my eeePC, my keyboard mappings get messed up and instead of normal keyboard output, i see fn+keyboard output
[10:29] <amitprakash> This happens only post login into gnome
[10:31] <varikonniemi> against what package should the bug report be filed when drag&drop does not work into chromium?
[10:31] <varikonniemi> i had the problem with ubuntu 12.10, lubuntu 12.10 did not have the problem
[10:31] <varikonniemi> but now again ubuntu 13.04 has
[10:33] <tkmostt> bluetooth settings image  http://imagebin.org/255449
[10:37] <Walex> tkmostt: for Bluetooth settings to work the bluetooth service must be running *and* as your screenshot shows there must be at least one recognized adapter. Probably the latter is the issue.
[10:37] <Neozonz> this is strange, everytime i run my rc.local script to execute my daemon... my daemon runs and creates a new data directory under \<daemondatadir>
[10:37] <Walex> Neozonz: that is probably how you dæmon is configured to do
[10:37] <tkmostt> Walex: anything that i should do...i don't know much regarding this
[10:38] <Neozonz> Walex, so I should move my files to
[10:38] <Neozonz> \ instead of run it from home?
[10:38] <tkmostt> Walex: i am running dual boot with win7 and in win7 bluetooth is working
[10:38] <michael_irc> hi
[10:38] <Neozonz> the thing is if i run /etc/rc.local after logging in, it starts fine
[10:39] <Walex> tkmostt: well, you should make sure that there is a working Bluetooth driver for your device, what kind of device is that?
[10:39] <chuckly> I trying to install ubuntu on old monitor with HDMI.  The screen says no signal  after the splash. The VGA boot works OK and also works using another more recent monitor
[10:39] <tkmostt> Walex: the PC is a laptop and it has broadcom bluetooth chip
[10:39] <Dr_willis> chuckly,  the grub menu is usinbg some res the monitor dosent like. change it in /etc/default/grub
[10:40] <tkmostt> Walex: it was working in ubuntu 12.04 and for sometime in 12.10 as well iirc
[10:40] <chuckly> there is command I used in grub which helped me resolve resolution issues started with d
[10:40] <chuckly> I think
[10:41] <Dr_willis> chuckly,   /etc/default/grub  mentions some tools like that. Or just set grub to use a text type menu
[10:41] <Walex> tkmostt: have you tried searching with "brodcom bluetooth ubuntu"? there are a few entries that might be relevant.
[10:42] <tkmostt> Walex: ok i will check more on it and then return.....thanks :)
[10:42] <michael_irc> hi
[10:42] <Walex> tkmostt: as for many/most peripherals questions there are so many variants, and so many are not supported that it is usually necessary to do a fair bit of investigation. Usually it is best to choose peripherals that are known to work easily rather than find ways to get random variants to work.
[10:43] <chuckly> Dr_willis: found this link. Will try it http://askubuntu.com/questions/127851/change-boot-screen-resolution
[10:43] <Walex> tkmostt: for example consider this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/193482/broadcom-bluetooth-device-remains-undetected-bcm2046-widcomm
[10:44] <chuckly> Dr_willis - The monitor is quite old so not sure if it supports HDCP. Is this a problem?
[10:45] <Walex> tkmostt: or for example also http://freedomandlinux.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/quick-fix-for-broadcom-sta-wifi-bluetooth-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[10:45] <tkmostt> Walex: you are right.....one more thing that rfkill list used to show wifi and bluetooth previously now it only shows wifi
[10:45] <michael_irc> clear
[10:45] <michael_irc> nick
[10:46] <andrew_46> michael_irc: Don't forget the / :)
[10:46] <Walex> tkmostt: if you really need Bluetooth a very cheap option is a USB dongle, they can be very small and nearly all use a chipset with a standard driver
[10:46] <michael_irc> thank yo1u
[10:47] <michael_irc> michael_irc
[10:48] <michael_irc> NICK <michael_irc>
[10:48] <tkmostt> Walex: no i need it but not that much for now....and that solution is also in my mind(usb dongle)....just wanted to know why does it not work....nothing that serious though but would have still liked it to work :)
[10:49] <Walex> tkmostt: the usual reason is indeed that hw manufacturers do too many slightly incompatible variants of the same stuff, without any good reason
[10:49] <tkmostt> ok :)
[10:50] <tkmostt> Walex:  i ran this command "sudo service bluetooth status"  and it showed "bluetooth start/running, process 1162"
[10:51] <xgeek> hello, why i can't change any permission in mouted partition?
[10:51] <xgeek> i change with chmod +x AA but nothing happen!
[10:51] <Dr_willis> and what filesystem is the partition using?
[10:51] <BlueEagle> xgeek: Is the partition mounted with noexec?
[10:51] <xgeek> ntfs
[10:51] <xgeek> BlueEagle, don't know
[10:51] <Dr_willis> xgeek,  thats why.... ntfs cant do that
[10:52] <tapas> hi, i'm trying to use gtk-recordmydesktop here. for some reaon the tray icon to stop recording doesn't work under kde
[10:52] <tapas> is there a known workaround for that?
[10:52] <xgeek> Dr_willis, so ? should i install something?
[10:52] <BlueEagle> xgeek: ntfs needs a mount option to allow for execution of files iirc.
[10:52] <Dr_willis> xgeek,  ntfs/vfat does not support the linux standard permissions, or ownership
[10:52] <xgeek> BlueEagle, how can i do that?
[10:53] <aseegs> whats best way for install kde enviroment on raring ringtail?
[10:54] <Dr_willis> aseegs,  use the kubuntu iso image. or install the kubuntu-desktop package on a ubuntu install
[10:54] <Derfol> hi
[10:54] <Walex> tkmostt: then if the service is running it is really a driver problem.
[10:55] <BlueEagle> xgeek: If you mount it from the command line add the appropriate options wiht the -o flag. If it is listed in fstab then add it to the list of options there.
[10:55] <Derfol> where official canonical forums
[10:55] <Derfol> ?
[10:56] <BlueEagle> xgeek: `man mount` for a list of options.
[10:56] <Walex> xgeek: you use mount options to give default ownership of NTFS files to you and default permisions.
[10:56] <tkmostt> Walex: ok i will try to sort it out ..  :)
[10:56] <xgeek> but i simply mount using nautilus
[10:56] <Walex> xgeek: Nautilus will use default options from '/etc/fstab'
[10:57] <BlueEagle> xgeek: Yeah, with Nautilus it is not mounted with execution privileges by default. Which is sensible tbh.
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !forums|Derfol,
[10:57] <michael_irc> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER michael_irc bwiyvmibgmse
[10:57] <Walex> xgeek: I don't use Nautilus, but perhaps there is some kind of way to tell Nautilus to use options if they are not in '/etc/fstab'
[10:57] <andrew_46> michael_irc: Try prepending your commands with a /
[10:57] <Walex> michael_irc: OOPS about the password :-)
[10:57] <xgeek> nothing related to ntfs in fstab
[10:58] <Walex> xgeek: then add it perhaps.
[10:58] <Derfol> i want canonical forums
[10:58] <michael_irc> thank you ! and*
[10:58] <zenal> gud nite all :D
[10:58] <Dr_willis> !forums
[10:58] <Dr_willis> Derfol,  did you even try  just typing in ubuntu forums in any search engine? ;)
[10:59] <Dr_willis> Derfol,  askubuntu.com is also a good place to bookmark
[10:59] <Derfol> http://www.canonical.com
[10:59] <Derfol> where there are forum?
[10:59] <Derfol> i was see it in last year
[10:59] <Derfol> not cant found
[11:01] <tkmostt> Walex: would the normal dongles would do fine or would i need some by particular brands that would work out of the box with ubuntu
[11:01] <BlueEagle> Derfol: Are you looking for information regarding the company Canonical, or the product Ubuntu?
[11:01] <Dr_willis> tkmostt,  the chipset used by the dongle is more imporntant then the company selling it
[11:01] <michael_irc> ubuntu
[11:01] <Derfol> i want canonical forum
[11:01] <tkmostt> Dr_willis: ok then
[11:02] <BlueEagle> Derfol: The ubuntuforums.org are owned and operated by Canonical.
[11:02] <Derfol> no
[11:02] <BlueEagle> hint: whois `ubuntuforums.org`
[11:02] <tkmostt> Dr_willis: is there any site that shows incompatibilty lists or problem devices
[11:02] <Derfol> they was have official canonical forum
[11:03] <BlueEagle> Derfol: Yes. They did have them at canonica.com before. They have since been moved.
[11:03] <Dr_willis> tkmostt,  when shopping - i tend to check the reviews at amazon.com  i picked up several usb wifi dongles that work out of the box.
[11:03] <BlueEagle> Derfol: Is there something incomprehensible about that consept?
[11:03] <Derfol> cry
[11:03] <Derfol> where forum?
[11:04] <BlueEagle> Derfol: If you are not looking for the Canonical ubuntu support forums, please specify the type of information you are looking for in the forum you are looking for.
[11:04] <tkmostt> Dr_willis: yeah normally everything works fine with ubuntu ..in some cases just adding some repositaries does the job as well....so won't be a big problem...i would check out review there and then decide if i pick one
[11:04] <tkmostt> thanks for the help Walex  Dr_willis
[11:04] <tkmostt> have a good time all :)
[11:05] <BlueEagle> !ru|Perhaps you can explain better to the people here:
[11:05] <BlueEagle> Derfol: (see above)
[11:05] <paluchlab-iMac> I would like to burn the ubuntu iso to a cd so that I can boot from it. This mac will not mount the disk image and I am not sure if it means the file is corrupt or there is another error.
[11:06] <BlueEagle> !md5sum | paluchlab-iMac: Please check the MD5 sum
[11:06] <Dr_willis> paluchlab-iMac,  use a disk burning tool that can handle image files.. theres no need to mount the iso.  be sure to verify the md5 sum of the ISO to prove its a good download
[11:07]  * cfhowlett ... "Saucy Salamander" ?????
[11:08] <paluchlab-iMac> I ran md5 ubuntu...iso and it gave me a result, but now I'm not sure where to find the provided value.
[11:08] <cfhowlett> paluchlab-iMac, hash sum's are on the ISO download page.
[11:09] <paluchlab-iMac> cfhowlett: link please? The download page I am on does not have the sum on it.
[11:13] <paluchlab-iMac> So the standard download page does not have the hashes. You have to go to releases.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <papachan> hi, i have upgrading to 13.04. but unity doesnt accept my icons like Eclipse, Aptana software
[11:15] <papachan> so i cannot launch these apps
[11:15] <Dr_willis> 'dosent accept' ? what you mean by that
[11:19] <papachan> i try to drag it to the launcher
[11:19] <papachan> but unity doesnt add it to the list
[11:20] <Dr_willis> how did you install eclipse and aptana?
[11:21] <papachan> i always download the source, and add my own shortcuts
[11:21] <papachan> in 12.10 ubuntu recognize my apps in the Dash
[11:21] <papachan> but it didnt show the app in the dash anymore
[11:25] <papachan> hmmm i see
[11:26] <papachan> it seems this launcher icon  is not working anymore
[11:27] <paluchlab-iMac> The server disk is not a live cd?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> paluchlab-iMac: it can be, in CLI only though
[11:27]  * SuperLag wonders if he'll stick out like a sore thumb going to a Linux tech conference with a Macbook Pro in hand? :)
[11:27] <paluchlab-iMac> ActionParsnip: how would I go about doing it.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> paluchlab-iMac: as soon as you are asked for input, hit CTRL+ALT+F2 or F3 and you will get a TTY
[11:28] <g105b> I am booting Ubuntu iso from Grubmenu. There is only one HDD in the system. Is it possible to install Ubuntu and format the drive like this, even though the iso is on that same drive?
[11:28] <paluchlab-iMac> Thank you
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: some users install Ubuntu on Mac, they are weird
[11:28] <Derfol> hepo plz
[11:28] <Derfol> help
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> g105b: You will need to make a small partition to hold the ISO, you can then install to the remaining space
[11:29] <Derfol> here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2138576&page=2
[11:29] <hubx> anyone else experiencing a 1000e driver powersave issue?
[11:29] <paluchlab-iMac> Didn't go, thanks for the info. Does the desktop fit on a cd?
[11:29] <Derfol> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2138576
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> paluchlab-iMac: yes it does
[11:29] <hubx> i have to disable the powersave option in powertop to make eth0 work
[11:30] <Derfol> Can i use ubuntu official repository in my ow OS?
[11:30] <g105b> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:31] <Derfol> own
[11:31] <Amnuriak> I'm having issues with my graphics drivers resulting (12.04, ATI FirePro 2770) so that my monitors are not detected properly. See http://askubuntu.com/questions/285354/graphics-driver-for-ati-firepro-2770-not-working-properly-on-12-04 for details
[11:31] <Amnuriak> ignore the "resulting", typo :-/
[11:32] <Hermes1111> hi, newb here seeking help
[11:32] <bhuey> How do I remove the cloud-init support packages and get a normal ubuntu installation ?
[11:32] <Hermes1111> would be eternally grateful if anyone can help me fix this issue
[11:32] <Derfol> help please
[11:33] <Hermes1111> does anyone know how I can disable ctrl+alt function? It resizes your current window
[11:33] <Hermes1111> I cannot find ctrl+alt in any of the keyboard layouts....
[11:33] <Hermes1111> lots of ctrl+alt+ other keys but nothing for just ctrl+alt
[11:34] <Hermes1111> anyone there at all? >_<
[11:35] <Hermes1111> anyone home?
[11:35] <snql> yeah
[11:37] <Derfol> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2138576&page=2 go on forum please and help
[11:37] <Hermes1111> snql do you know how I can disable ctrl + alt hotkey function?
[11:37] <Derfol> bb
[11:37] <ur0pl> for thepiratebay, i am trying to search for the movie "O" 2001, the modern otthelo remake with julia stiles . Do any of you know the synthex that allows me to do that without getting every movie out there? I tried " o " 2001 ... but that didn't work
[11:37] <Hermes1111> there is no option for it in keyboard mapping
[11:37] <Hermes1111> im on ubuntu 11.10
[11:37] <snql> Hermes1111 << no ideas
[11:37] <Hermes1111> hmmm ok, thanks anyhow
[11:38] <BlueEagle> !ot|r0pl
[11:38] <wdonkey> hello ! trying to access my alsamixer controls but it will say "no such file or directory" in the terminal
[11:38] <wdonkey> fresh 13.04 install
[11:39] <BlueEagle> wdonkey: Ubuntu+1 and make sure you're in the Audio group.
[11:39] <BlueEagle> wait, 1304 should be released by now. Forget the above +1 reference. ;)
[11:39] <purplerain> i cannot three fingers tapping if not executing synclient tapbutton3=2.
[11:39] <wdonkey> how do i get into the audio group ?
[11:40] <BlueEagle> wdonkey: man usermod
[11:40] <Hermes1111> BlueEagle, did you see me question earlier? and if so, any ideas?
[11:40] <Hermes1111> my*
[11:40] <marcusk> wdonkey: usermod -a -G audio wdonkey
[11:40] <BlueEagle> wdonkey: You want something... as marcusk writes above :)
[11:41] <Hermes1111> I really need to disable ctrl+alt, it changes window size
[11:41] <BlueEagle> Hermes1111: We do not use the same window manager.
[11:41] <wdonkey> ok
[11:41] <wdonkey> let me try
[11:41] <Hermes1111> i see, thanks anyhow blue ^^
[11:41] <aseegs> "apt-get install kde-workspace", has other way of installing it?
[11:42] <wdonkey> gets me to a liust of options, but i still cant figure out
[11:43] <aseegs> what's about Kde-full?
[11:46] <wdonkey> marcusk: do i have to enter my password or username or something ? tells me the correct form is "usermod options LOGIN"
[11:46] <Kqwarkq> what's about Kde-full?
[11:59] <g105b> how do I use gparted or similar to have a separate partition for a particular directory?
[11:59] <usr13> g105b: Do you have some free space to put it on?
[11:59] <brodymcd> hi all - after MUCH frustration with UEFI on a new Dell XPS 8500 preinstalled with Win8, I just turned the bios to legacy mode and blew out the Win8 drive. I added a second SATA drive to put linux on. It worked (grub was in effect) but then for some reason after an update or what not it stopped working. I'm starting over. What do I need to know to avoid problems? I thought I'd have to choose the HD from the bios boot order each tim
[11:59] <theadmin> g105b: Create a partition. Assign a mountpoint via /etc/fstab
[11:59] <g105b> usr13: yeah, I've made a partition in gparted, but I don't know how to tell it to mount the directory
[12:00] <brodymcd> How does grub kick in across 2 different HDs and such? This is my first new computer in 5 years - is this because of SATA?
[12:00] <Shogoot> So, I installed vsftp.  chroot_local_user=YES, chroot_list_enable=NO ,anonymous_enable=NO, local_enable=YES .  Then i added user and made password. i connect to ftp via plan old ftp and im looking at an empty directory and i cannot change that directory. that is fine, but where in my directory structure am I? I Made a test file in the users homedirectory, but i cannot see that on the ftp client. Is it because i dont have rights to the directory as user or
[12:00] <Shogoot> am i looking at an entirely different directory? A helping had helpt me a bit, conversation here:http://paste.ubuntu.com/5604363/
[12:00] <usr13> g105b:  You'll need to edit /etc/fstab and make an entry for it, (if you want to permanently mount it.
[12:00] <brodymcd> Ultimately I just want to dual boot Win8 and Linux off the 2 drives... can anyone help?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> brodymcd: do you mean a RAID?
[12:00] <theadmin> g105b: The syntax is similar to this: /dev/sda1 /mnt ext4 defaults (filesystem_location mount_point filesystem_type mount_options)
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> brodymcd: or do you have one OS on one, and another OS on the other
[12:01] <wdonkey_> brodymcd: i've user bootrepair and it fixed my problem once
[12:02] <wdonkey_> having ubuntu on the SSD and win8 on the HDD
[12:02] <usr13> g105b: But if you just want to temporarily mount it, create a mount point, (something you need to do anyway), and mount it with command: sudo mount /dev/sda6 /home/g105b/data
[12:02] <wdonkey_> you gotta make sure the grub partition is on the same drive as the win8s'
[12:02] <brodymcd> ActionParsnip: It isn't on raid, and yes, I want one OS on each drive - tried doing the boot repair thing before and it drove me nuts couldn't get it to work under uefi
[12:02] <g105b> theadmin: what's dump and pass?
[12:02] <usr13> g105b: sda6 and /home/g105b/data   are hypotheticals
[12:03] <theadmin> g105b: Optional things and I have no idea what they mean
[12:03] <g105b> theadmin, usr13: thanks a lot
[12:04] <usr13> g105b: The mount point is just a directory that you create, (and name appropriately), like /home/g105b/data  or  /home/g105b/Videos  etc...
[12:04] <Tha_Duck> Hi. I have downloaded ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso.  Only the normal amd64 is recognized. Is there a workaround for that?
[12:04] <iorweth> My hdmi sound-output doesnt work. I an see picture on my tv but no sound - it doesnt show in the settings. Yesterday I was using 13.04 daily build and there it worked, upgraded this morning, and now it doesnt work.
[12:05] <usr13> Tha_Duck: Why can't you get it on a USB stick?
[12:05] <theadmin> Tha_Duck: Not with that tool. Use this: https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer
[12:05] <theadmin> usr13: It has a predefined set of supported distributions and the image used must be one of those
[12:05] <usr13> theadmin: I see.  Thanks for the information
[12:06] <Tha_Duck> usr13; the .iso is not recognized. I renamed it to remove the +mac and then it is found by the tool. After putting it on the USB stick i can't boot :(
[12:06] <usr13> Tha_Duck: You might find http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  interesting.
[12:07] <Kquarkq> I do with Rmprepusb with easy2boot v1
[12:08] <Tha_Duck> usr13: looks nice. Also tried the linux live usb creator in the meanwhile and that is also working. But today I have a Windows client, tomorrow a Mac again :P
[12:08] <Tha_Duck> And unetboot is also for the mac
[12:08] <brodymcd> i would think that having win8 on one hd and linux on #2 would work if you just picked which one to boot from the bios boot order but i guess not? frustrating
[12:09] <brodymcd> would it work better if i installed linux first?
[12:09] <Kquarkq> i removed the dot from 13.04 from the name im preparation for rmprepusb and easy2boot
[12:09] <yeats> brodymcd: much easier to install Windows first, then use grub for booting both
[12:09] <theadmin> brodymcd: No, Windows would overwrite the bootloader
[12:10] <usr13> brodymcd: Another alternative might be to just run MS Windows in virtualbox.
[12:10] <emocan> saaa
[12:10] <usr13> !virtualbox | brodymcd
[12:11] <Kquarkq> omg, i do smart update command ;O
[12:11] <brodymcd> yeats - so if i have 2 hds and really don't care about anything other than dual booting win8 and linux, what's my order or business? I did the boot repair thing before and it only lasted as long as through one reset cycle, then windows would somehow eat things up and leave me broken again
[12:12] <usr13> brodymcd: Does this PC have options to boot to more than just one drive?
[12:13] <usr13> brodymcd: (May be that it just reverted to boot the other drive.)
[12:15] <brodymcd> usr13 - it just has in the boot order "internal hdds"
[12:17] <DarsVaeda> how do I properly install programs manually? In my case I want to install eclipse juno...so I copy the downloaded folder to "/usr/lib/eclipse" then make a symlink to "/usr/bin/eclipse" for the executable and setup a link for the launche (don't know how to do that yet)
[12:17] <DarsVaeda> is that an appropriate way?
[12:18] <theadmin> DarsVaeda: Don't touch /usr, use /usr/local for stuff outside of packages.
[12:18] <brainwash> or /opt
[12:19] <usr13> DarsVaeda: ln -s
[12:19] <DarsVaeda> ok so I also do not symlink to usr/bin?
[12:19] <usr13> DarsVaeda: see man ln
[12:19] <usr13> DarsVaeda: That's up to you.
[12:19] <usr13> DarsVaeda: Just be sure it's in your path.
[12:20] <DarsVaeda> in my path?
[12:20] <usr13> $PATH
[12:20] <theadmin> DarsVaeda: /usr/local is better for several reasons. Packages won't overwrite it, shall you decide to reinstall Ubuntu to the same partitition, the installer won't touch it either.
[12:21] <DarsVaeda> okay I see thanks
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> DarsVaeda: or /opt
[12:23] <usr13> Ok, gotta gota work c u all later
[12:23] <wctaiwan> I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 on a ThinkPad X220i with Intel Wireless-N 1000. At school we have a WPA2 / PEAP network. I can connect to it fine when the computer boots, but after a few minutes it drops. dmesg shows that it's timing out authenticating.
[12:23] <wctaiwan> I can't  reconnect unless I reboot--restarting network-manager or bringing wlan0 down and then up don't work
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> wctaiwan: what driver module does the wifi use?
[12:23] <wctaiwan> iwlwifi.
[12:24] <wctaiwan> I tried using wicd instead of network manager, but that one didn't connect when I woke the computer up from suspend (says bad password)
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> wctaiwan: tried:  echo "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf > /dev/null
[12:25] <wctaiwan> tried that, don't think it helps :/
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> wctaiwan: or try with =1   if it's not good (unload and reload the module file to apply changes)
[12:25] <wctaiwan> the thing is that this is hard to reproduce, so it's hard to know if something's part of the issue >.<
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> wctaiwan: tried bt_coex_active=0 too?
[12:25] <wctaiwan> I tried =1. I think it enables 802.11n by default.
[12:25] <wctaiwan> nope.
[12:26] <wctaiwan> I think it has to do with it trying to authenticate with a base station, timing out, and instead of trying again, it hops to another base station (with the same ESSID), ad nauseum
[12:26] <wctaiwan> any way to stop it from doing that?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> wctaiwan: not all wifi adapters can do n speed solidly under Linux in my experience
[12:26] <wctaiwan> yeah, I don't think disabling 802.11n helped..
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> wctaiwan: could maybe increase fidelity, so that it stays on the same point (if possible)
[12:27] <wctaiwan> how can I do that?
[12:28] <alecat> Hi
[12:28] <alecat> Is there a channel for unity ?
[12:28] <wctaiwan> if I were better at scripting I would try to write something that records the BSSID at login and then switches to that network, instead of trying to connect to the common ESSID..
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> alecat: Ubuntu community supports Unity
[12:28] <pdors> !ciao
[12:29] <alecat> ok
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> alecat: on Ubuntu, of course
[12:30] <alecat> so here is my problem. I installed 13.04 on a rather old computer here (3 or 4 years). Unity is so slow at opening. I suspect the fade in effect
[12:31] <alecat> i removed every effect i can: blur, transparency and so on but i did not see any switch for fade in effect
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> alecat: if you have an older system, consider using LXDE or XFCE instead of Gnome + Unity
[12:31] <wisey> Can you create an installer for a flash drive on a mac?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !mac|wisey, yes
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> wisey: sure
[12:33] <Techno_Wizard> infosec-ninjas
[12:33] <alecat> ActionParsnip, ok, but everything is ok except unity... so
[12:36] <pip__>  hi, when did non LTS releases only become supported for 9 months?  This is news to me
[12:37] <theadmin> pip__: Since 13.04.
[12:37] <wisey> ActionParsnip :: how do I put the installer on a flash drive?
[12:37] <pip__> so it's quote a new thing then ? :)
[12:37] <pip__> quite even
[12:37] <theadmin> pip__: Well, yes.
[12:37] <cfhowlett> pip__, as of this version ... yes.
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !usb|wisey,
[12:37] <pip__> lol, thanks I've not been keeping up TBH
[12:37] <ubuntuaddicted> is there a difference between sudo -s and sudo -i?
[12:38] <pip__> shame, I'm not sure I want to install for only 9 months, I like what I've seen from a live usb though
[12:39] <cfhowlett> pip__, LTS is supported for 5 years with 12.04
[12:39] <Darshi> hi I installed LAMP and it works fine except that localhost always hows it works ! . I want directory listing instead of it works page. If I rename/remove index.html I get 403 forbidden. What should I do ?
[12:39] <pip__> yah, that's what I'm running ATM, & it's working well
[12:40] <pip__> how are AMD drivers for 13.04?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> pip__, I switched to LTS only and I'm loving me some ubuntu.
[12:40] <chop1n> Darshi, check if you have "Options +Indexes" enable for your directories
[12:41] <pip__> I went back from 12.10 to 12.04 & everything has been sweet, I think I may stick with LTSs
[12:41] <chop1n> Darshi, please, take a look at this: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DirectoryListings
[12:41] <pip__> I have one rig I can "play" with, so there's an option
[12:42] <cfhowlett> pip__, absent a real NEED for the latest/greatest/shinest ubuntu, I'd say LTS for everyone ...
[12:42] <Darshi> chop1n, I have Options Indexes in default file of sites-available
[12:43] <pip__> Yeah, I tend to agree, I was curious about 13.04, moving up may be more hassle than it's worth, & I suppose if it isn't broken why fix it?
[12:45] <chop1n> Darshi, could you please paste me your config on pastebin.org?
[12:45] <pip__> that's great, thanks guys, cy'all soon
[12:46] <Darshi> chop1n, sure 1 min please
[12:47] <chop1n> Darshi, thanks buddy
[12:47] <un2him> How can I make documents, music, and other folders show up in dash?
[12:48] <chop1n> Darshi, also, please check if you don't have any .htaccess files in the directories where you want to create the indexes ;-)
[12:48] <wisey> cfhowlett :: I tried this => "hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o /Users/colinwiseman/Desktop/ubuntu.img /Users/colinwiseman/Downloads/ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso"
[12:48] <wisey> but it didn't work
[12:49] <wisey> have i got the usage wrong?
[12:49] <Darshi> chop1n, thank you so much I had .htaccess file
[12:49] <Darshi> chop1n, thank you so much for pointing to it
[12:50] <cfhowlett> !mac|wisey, I'm going to have to bail as I've never done a mac install and I understand so little of what you just posted.  sorry.
[12:51] <DarsVaeda> how do I add a program to that unity search panel thing?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> !isitout
[12:52]  * cfhowlett ...ubottu seems to be loosing patience with that question ...
[12:55] <demonoid_me> hello to all
[12:56] <demonoid_me> i have Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz × 4 with 4GB ram
[12:56] <lapdis> demonoid_me: that is not enough to run angular
[12:56] <demonoid_me> and my ubuntu 12.04 isn't work fast
[12:56] <demonoid_me> if i compile my kernel it will be more fast?
[12:57] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: try google, Linux From Scratch I doubt any usable linux can be faster then that
[12:57] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[12:58] <demonoid_me> c2tarun: but i need gnome i use my ubuntu for desktop
[12:58] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: Linux from scratch will help you the minimal linux with a desktop environment. DE can be gnome, KDE or anything you want.
[12:59] <c2tarun> in building the minimal linux**
[12:59] <demonoid_me> c2tarun: yes i know but i never make linux from scrath and i don't know if i can do it :)
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> demonoid_me  140+ people in #ubuntu-kernel
[13:00] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: well thats why geeks invented virtualbox :) to experiment ;)
[13:00]  * c2tarun or created
[13:01] <demonoid_me> c2tarun: yes i know :)
[13:01] <demonoid_me> c2tarun, how much time you spend for linux from scratch?
[13:01] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: 1 week before I realized that preparation for GRE requires more time and will do me more good :)
[13:02] <cropcircle> hi, i upgraded to 13.04 and now i have problem with skype it wont starts : Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[13:02] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: anyway since you were interested in compiling linux then I told you about LFS.
[13:03] <demonoid_me> c2tarun,yes 10x :)
[13:03] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: if you want you can try other lightweight distros (crunchbang my fav) of try Unity 2D or Ubuntu fallback session, they are pretty fast as compared to Unity
[13:03] <demonoid_me> c2tarun, i use unity 2D
[13:03] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: and you really like Unity and don't want to leave it?
[13:04] <DarsVaeda> how do I add a program to the launcher?
[13:04] <demonoid_me> c2tarun, nooooo :)))) i don't
[13:04] <c2tarun> DarsVaeda: launcher means sidebar?
[13:04] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:04] <Hammerhead2011-S> java plugin for mozilla 7 or 8 howto? Is there such a thing?
[13:04] <demonoid_me> c2tarun, i don't know may be i will try LFS
[13:04] <DarsVaeda> when you hit that icon in the sidebar and type an application name
[13:05] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: great :) I guess they have pretty detailed tutorial which will make you a real real linux geek for sure.
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> !java | Hammerhead2011-S start here
[13:05] <Hammerhead2011-S> just the plugin part....Java install complete....plugin in Chromium still saying blocked because of outdataed plugin
[13:05] <linux> how can i know the character  that is Uppercase or lowercase
[13:06] <BlueEagle> linux: By looking at it?
[13:06] <c2tarun> linux: you dont know the difference b/w upper and lower case?
[13:06] <Hammerhead2011-S> ASCII value
[13:06] <c2tarun> +1 to BlueEagle
[13:06] <demonoid_me> c2tarun, if i need help can i ask you :)
[13:07] <BlueEagle> linux: I am sorry. In which context are you asking? Linux shell commands are usually always lowercase all the way.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: how did you install java?
[13:07] <DarsVaeda> I can't believe how ridiculously difficult it seems to be to add a program to the launcher -.-
[13:07] <Hammerhead2011-S> apt-get
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: what package name?
[13:07] <DarsVaeda> I read several tutorial but they take several minutes, why isn't there a "add to launcher" context menu O_o
[13:07] <Hammerhead2011-S> I'm sorry.....it's Oracles version
[13:07] <BlueEagle> linux: If you are createing a shell script and want to compare two strings without case sensitivity it is usually good enough to convert both strings to either upper or lower case.
[13:07] <Hammerhead2011-S> 7 and 8
[13:08] <tyong> hi
[13:08] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: well, you can always ask me, but I don't know how much I will be able to help :) but there is a mailing-list and IRC for lfs http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/support.html  I prefer IRC but subscribing to ML will not hurt
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: so you used the Webupd8 ppa?
[13:08] <uvala> is there a way to increase screen brightness of lenovo thinkpad? the brightness setting is at maximum, but it's much less bright than my other laptop's.
[13:08] <Hammerhead2011-S> correct
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: then I suggest you contact the PPA maintainer
[13:08] <michael_irc> correct
[13:08] <cfhowlett> uvala, maxed out is maxed out ...
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> uvala: what is the full model please?
[13:08] <Hammerhead2011-S> Chromium is telling me the plugin is outdated....Mozilla is just "not working"
[13:08] <Hammerhead2011-S> something is screwed
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> uvala: sudo dmidecode -t 1    will tell you
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: mozilla isn't a browser
[13:09] <demonoid_me> c2tarun, yes you are right :) i will subscribing :)
[13:09] <Hammerhead2011-S> firefox...you know what I mean
[13:09] <Hammerhead2011-S> :-)
[13:09] <Hammerhead2011-S> Mozilla used to be a browser
[13:09] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know how I get nvidia-current to install a certain version? original nvidia-current was 295.40 BUT now it's 304.88
[13:09] <Hammerhead2011-S> showing my age now.
[13:10] <BlueEagle> ubuntuaddicted: The 'current' part of the package name indicates that this installs the lastest officially supported version (ie the current version).
[13:10] <demonoid_me> c2tarun, many things you learn when you do LFK?
[13:10] <uvala> ActionParsnip, it is a Lenovo Thinkpad R400
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: not seeing any sites about a mozilla browser, its a company
[13:10] <BlueEagle> ubuntuaddicted: The question then becomes "how do I install nvidia 295.40 instead of nvidia-current.
[13:11] <Hammerhead2011-S> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Firefox#Naming
[13:11] <r00t-err0r> can i install ubuntu without unity?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> uvala: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a
[13:11] <ubuntuaddicted> BlueEagle, well, crystalbuntu originally came with 295.40 using nvidia-current, i uninstalled nvidia-current and installed nvidia website version 304.88. i'd like to revert to 295.40
[13:12] <auronandace> r00t-err0r: of course you can
  I'm old so it's what we used to call it.
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: yes, phoenix was the first publicly available....
[13:12] <c2tarun> demonoid_me: yes you'll learn many many things. You can start here: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/essential_prereading.txt
[13:12] <r00t-err0r> how? auronandace
[13:13] <r00t-err0r> i want new relase of unbuntu without unity
[13:13] <r00t-err0r> and without gui, i want install all my self
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> r00t-err0r: then install Xubuntu or Kubuntu
[13:13] <BluesKaj_> ubuntuaddicted, just instll nvidia-current again , it should remove the present driver install the current , then reboot
[13:13] <cfhowlett> r00t-err0r, lubuntu/xubuntu are both non-unity
[13:13] <demonoid_me> c2tarun, 10x man!!!!
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> r00t-err0r: then install minimal for no UI
[13:13] <ubuntuaddicted> r00t-err0r, install ubuntu minimal
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> !mini | r00t-err0r
[13:13] <auronandace> r00t-err0r: you could use the mini iso and install just what you want or just install a supported derivative such as xubuntu if you want xfce
[13:13] <r00t-err0r> tnx 2 all
[13:13] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj_, i did and as I said it has installed 304.88 NOT 295.40
[13:14] <BlueEagle> ubuntuaddicted: Uninstall the new version and then install nvidia-current, if that gives the version you want.
[13:14] <Paddy_NI> Hey I installed Ubuntu on a newly fitted second HDD, I have other operating systems installed on the original first hdd which is currently the one which grub is loading from.. How do I have my currently running ubuntu install its own GRUB which will be the main bootable GRUB from which the rest of the OS's load from
[13:15] <BlueEagle> ubuntuaddicted: I do not know how  you got 304.88 if it was not in the repo.
[13:15] <linux> linux:leave now
[13:15] <ubuntuaddicted> BlueEagle, i removed the Nvidia website installed 304.88 version using the script, I then issued sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and it installed Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/restricted nvidia-current i386 304.88-0ubuntu0.0.2 [38.4 MB]
[13:15] <ubuntuaddicted> Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main nvidia-settings i386 304.88-0ubuntu0.0.2 [2082 kB]
[13:15] <Paddy_NI> Oh deary me my grammer is awful
[13:16] <uvala> ActionParsnip, this is the output; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5604568/
[13:17] <BlueEagle> ubuntuaddicted: Do you have something like nvidia-295 and nvidia-295-updates in the repositories?
[13:17] <ubuntuaddicted> BlueEagle, weird hey?
[13:17] <leojohn> I am a fish.
[13:17] <ubuntuaddicted> BlueEagle, no, that's what's weird. I am using Ubuntu 12.04
[13:19] <leojohn> full of English ，My god.
[13:19] <skillpiG> wut.
[13:19] <Stameni>  hello, i have tried to install python3-numpy but it says this : http://paste.debian.net/421/      earlier i didnt faced those problems ever
[13:19] <Stameni>  ( ubuntu 13.04 )
[13:21] <BlueEagle> ubuntuaddicted: After an update and a query my nvidia-current also sports 304
[13:21] <BlueEagle> ubuntuaddicted: And the highest version spesific I have is 173. :/
[13:22] <rynop> apt noob q - anyone know what the 'key' param referrers to in https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-apt#aptkey ? How would I get that value if I have the .key file URL and repo URL?
[13:25] <BlueEagle> Stameni: My best guess is to apt-get install liblapack3gf and then try numpy
[13:26] <ubuntuaddicted> BlueEagle, so, is there a way to revert to 295.40?
[13:26] <Stameni> BlueEagle, it brings up dependecies and "unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[13:27] <Stameni> and it is a clean install
[13:27] <Stameni> i didnt mess up with anything
[13:28] <BlueEagle> ubuntuaddicted: try http://www.geforce.com/drivers/beta-legacy
[13:28] <BlueEagle> 3gf brings up dependency issues too?
[13:28] <ChemicalToilet> does anyone here run 12.04 with an ati radeon hd 4200
[13:28] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, the keys for repositories are used for authentification
[13:29] <ChemicalToilet> amd*
[13:30] <ChemicalToilet> some unacceptable language going on here, I'll call back later
[13:30] <darkshadow> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[13:30] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, yep - how would I find the 8 char key for a repo?  I have the .key file and I know the repo. I'm not sure where to get the 8 chars to pass to that puppet module.
[13:33] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, they aren't always 8 characters I don't think, that's the non-hashed version of the key I think.
[13:33] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, what's the repo and key you're referring to?
[13:33] <ubuntuaddicted> BlueEagle, under the beta and legacy drivers it doesn't show 295.40. hmmmmm
[13:34] <ubuntuaddicted> BlueEagle, thanks anyway for trying to help
[13:34] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-apt#aptkey is the example. 'jenkins':  key        => 'D50582E6',  key_source => 'http://pkg.jenkins-ci.org/debian/jenkins-ci.org.key'. Where are they getting 'D50582E6' from?
[13:35] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, that's the keyname, see this ppa here, how the key is named AA836CA8 but when you click on the link it's a hashed key. https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/ppa
[13:36] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, what is the repo you're trying to use? isn't there a key associated with it?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ChemicalToilet: there is a known issue with 12.04/.10  and Radeo 2xxx, 3xxx and 4xxx GPUs
[13:36] <hggdh> shalom01
[13:36] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, yea - http://s3tools.org/repo/deb-all and key file is http://s3tools.org/repo/deb-all/stable/s3tools.key. How do I find the key name?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ChemicalToilet: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[13:37] <CyL> Hi, I believe 13.04 install program might have overwritten my previous bootloader with grub. Does it make a backup of the previous bootloader of any kind?
[13:37] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, deb http://s3tools.org/repo/deb-all stable/ is the full
[13:37] <ChemicalToilet> cool, thank tou for the info, I was just trying to do my research before upgrading actionparsnip :)
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> CyL: I don't believe so
[13:38] <hggdh> CyL: if grub was told to install on the MBR, your previous bootloader is gone
[13:38] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, that is the keyname. s3tools.key
[13:38] <hggdh> CyL: no backups
[13:38] <papachan> well ubuntu 13.04 dont open my software center include my ubuntu one panel
[13:39] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, I think what i'm really looking for is the 'signing key' value.  How do you find that for a given repo?
[13:39] <CyL> hggdh: Well, look who I found here ;) That's another issue, I think there might be a big in the 13.04 install program, since my main harddisk is /dev/sda, and I told grub too be instaled on the MBR of /dev/sdc which is a thumbdrive I was installing Ubuntu onto
[13:39] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, ex your sunab ppa has a 'signing key' of 1024R/AA836CA8
[13:39] <CyL> s/big/bug
[13:40] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, im pretty sure yours is s3tools
[13:40] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, can't you try it and see if it works?
[13:40] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, yea i'll give it a try thx.
[13:40] <CyL> hggdh: I've done pretty intricate repartitioning of the thumbdrive though
[13:41] <hggdh> CyL: :-) so it *is* you. I wondered...
[13:42] <hggdh> CyL: indeed it sounds like a but. You should have logs under /var/log/install
[13:42] <hggdh> CyL: s/but/bug/
[13:42] <CyL> hggdh: Yes, indeed. I'll take a look at them;
[13:43] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, actually its 'C762B6E6' - I know this cuz i added the repo via synaptic on another box of mine  - if u look @ authentication tab is shows the signing key val.
[13:44] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, and just verified that case by using the puppet module and passing in that val and the url to key - and it worked. no clue how u get that 8 char val beforehand tho.
[13:44] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, huhhh? not sure but at least you figured it out
[13:45] <maodun> I upgraded to 13.04 and no longer have wired or wireless network adapters
[13:45] <maodun> what should I do to restore networking?
[13:45] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, not really - cuz i want to know how to do it in general cuz i dont want to have to manually add to fig out the signing key every time. Reason im using puppet is to avoid manual stuff.
[13:46] <papachan> how i can reinstall my sowftare center? and ubuntu one?
[13:47] <CyL> hggdh: Well, since the logs are safe on the thumbdrive, I'll work this bootloader issue first, we talk later.
[13:47] <hggdh> CyL: ack
[13:47] <fragz> good morning
[13:47] <ixio2> trying to use ubuntu to recover a windows box that wont boot.. whe I try mount the NTFS disk I get "failed to read NTFS $bitmap: input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or its softRAID/fakeRAID.......... its not fakeraid or softraid.. any suggestions ?
[13:47] <papachan> oh i found this: Warning in file "/usr/share/applications/sublime-text-2.desktop": usage of MIME type "x-directory/normal" is discouraged ("x-directory" is an old media type that should be replaced with a modern equivalent)
[13:48] <cfhowlett> fragz, greetings
[13:48] <papachan> thats my problem i think
[13:52] <subthalamus> this error is bugging me http://askubuntu.com/questions/191862/hdio-get-identity-failed-for-dev-sdb-invalid-argument
[13:52] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, hopefully someone else can help as I am not sure at all
[13:52] <harris> how do i turn off the mower managment from command line
[13:52] <subthalamus> that isn't my post but basically the exact same problem except non-fatal
[13:52] <subthalamus> it has just done that since precise (now raring)
[13:53] <subthalamus> at every boot
[13:53] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, ok that at least makes me feel better. If/when i find out I'll post back here.
[13:53] <rynop> ubuntuaddicted, sounds like there is no standard way to find per 'How to find and add a key' in http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt
[13:54] <rynop> i find that hard to belive tho
[13:55] <guest-AK7HkY> hi
[13:55] <ubuntuaddicted> rynop, yeah, the apt key. you;d think it was standardized
[13:59] <papachan> oh i think some guy hacve the same problem here -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/283895/software-center-reinstallation-fails
[14:00]  * cfhowlett looking forward to Saucy Salamander
[14:01] <Slaizer> hi all, i am using Ubuntu 12.10 on a computer, and having difficulties finding my wlan. Any help would be appreciated.
[14:02] <michael_irc> can it just do't show sb's sign in or out
[14:02] <UbuNoob> Cannot write to a newly installed hard drive.. Can I get some help olease?
[14:03] <UbuNoob> I've installed Ubuntu 12.10.  My computer has 2 hard drives. The OS is on one and I want to use the second for movies and music.  I formatted the the second drive ( dev/SDC1) as Ext4 with the label Media1.  I cannot create a folder on the Media1 drive. I also want all users to have read, write, and execute permissions.
[14:04] <genii-around> UbuNoob: You will need to make a folder on the root of that drive and make it accessible for al the users you want to be able to write there.
[14:05] <UbuNoob> That I think is my problem, I cant create a folder
[14:06] <michael_irc> you have formatted it ,so you have the permission ,
[14:06] <michael_irc> do you think so
[14:10] <UbuNoob> I tried to add "Video" folder with sudo mkdir /media/Media1/Video
[14:12] <Paddy_NI> UbuNoob, This guide works beautifully on ubuntu too http://www.elementaryupdate.com/2013/04/share-folder-among-various-local-users.html
[14:12] <yeats> UbuNoob: is the drive monunted?
[14:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Guess Google Chrome users lose out in 13.04..
[14:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Depends on libudev0 and libxss1, but they aren't installable.
[14:13] <everestt> What kind of wireless network is "12"? ? The icon beside it is different. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=k0olqv&s=5
[14:13] <yeats> SonikkuAmerica: chromium-browser?
[14:14] <subthalamus> http://paste.debian.net/439/
[14:14] <SonikkuAmerica> yeats: Blechhhh. I prefer the proprietary one... it has Flash 11.7/
[14:14] <yeats> SonikkuAmerica: ah - ok
[14:15] <SonikkuAmerica> It's because Ubuntu ditched libudev0 for libudev1
[14:15] <yeats> SonikkuAmerica: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-google-chrome-cant-be-installed-in.html
[14:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Spotted it. thx
[14:16] <UbuNoob> ok.. I've successfully created a folder .. I had to use mkdir /media/zam/Media1/Video  (I saw the full path while hovering over the Mdeia1 drive
[14:17] <cristina> slart hello
[14:17] <everestt> *bump* Hey guys, anyone know what kind of connection is '12' shown in the screenshot? http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=k0olqv&s=5
[14:18] <Espen> Hey! Do anyone here know what driver is included with Ubuntu 13.04? Im curious if fglrx-updates for AMD, is the latest AMD driver Catalyst 13.4?
[14:18] <sw> everestt, A very odd one :b
[14:18] <UbuNoob> Cannot add anything to it. Looking at PADDY_NI's link in permissions now
[14:19] <everestt> sw, you think? :)
[14:19] <Slaizer> hi all, trying to get Ubuntu wireless on a: Atheros Communications Inc. Device 002c (rev 01) card. Any help would be appreciated.
[14:19] <cristina> any yahoo messenger with webcam?
[14:20] <cristina> pidgin works?
[14:21] <Caroline19> Hey guys, need a little bit of help. I want to set up an ssh server at home so I can connect to it from my workplace. However, I have more than one machine running linux. How do I specify which server am I connecting to when I do ssh?
[14:21] <subthalamus> is there a way to tell hdparm to just not run on external usb hdd?
[14:21] <Espen> Hey! Do anyone here know what driver is included with Ubuntu 13.04? Im curious if fglrx-updates for AMD, is the latest AMD driver Catalyst 13.4?
[14:22] <papachan> what is this error i have? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5604786/
[14:22] <DJones> Caroline19: I have mine set up via the adsl router, so that that receives the ssh request on a specific port and then that forwards to the specific ip address of the machine thats running ssh server
[14:22] <papachan> any idea about fix it?
[14:22] <michael_irc> 12.9
[14:23] <Caroline19> DJones, I see, I'll look up some more info about it then. Thank you very much.
[14:24] <yeats> papachan: see bug 1068680
[14:24] <papachan> ubottu thanks
[14:27] <UbuNoob> Thanks ALL... got it sorted    sudo chmod -R 777 /Media/zam/Media now allows me add files and folders...
[14:27] <zero_coder> hello
[14:29] <BlueEagle> UbuNoob: Oh.. World readable is most likely not the best option from a securtiy point of view. Perhaps making the files group writable and add them and yourself to the media group?
[14:29] <BlueEagle> s/readable/writable/
[14:32] <soahccc> Shouldn't that route the IP through the VPN connection or did I missed something?    <IP_ADDRESS>/32  <IP_ADDRESS>       UGSc            0       13    ppp0
[14:33] <UbuNoob> BlueEagle how can I undo what I did and If I have 2 users "plex" and "david", how can I give those two permissions?
[14:33] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, whos the owner and group of the folder?
[14:34] <UbuNoob> Im sorry... how can I find out who the owner is?
[14:35] <stercor> is there a way to upgrade from 12.10 13.04 without reformatting the hard drive?
[14:35] <jrib> !upgrade | stercor
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | stercor
[14:35] <penk> hi folks, my auto-upgrade in cron.daily has been throwing "Package 'mysql-common' has conffile prompt and needs to be upgraded manually - so I log into the host and do "sudo aptitude upgrade mysql-common" - which upgrades fine without any conffile prompt problems.
[14:35] <penk> Any ideas?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> stercor: Raring has shorter support than Quantal, just so you know
[14:35] <stercor> Thanks!
[14:35] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, ls -la /media/zam/
[14:35] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, enter that in a terminal
[14:35] <jrib> penk: apt-cache policy mysql-common
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> penk: I suggest you use apt-get , it handles mutiarch better
[14:36] <penk> jrib: mysql-common:
[14:36] <penk>   Installed: 5.5.31-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[14:36] <penk>   Candidate: 5.5.31-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[14:36] <penk> it updated :)
[14:36] <penk> jrib: do you want the full output?
[14:36] <jrib> penk: when was the last time you got the message?  Are there any other versions available in the output?
[14:37] <penk> yes, sec
[14:37] <penk> last time was this morning
[14:37] <penk> jrib: http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/12668
[14:38] <UbuNoob> root i slisted in the third and fourth column
[14:38] <penk> ActionParsnip: my understanding is that 'aptitude' is the preferred way to manage updates and upgrades.  is that no longer the case?
[14:38] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, what's your user's name?
[14:38] <jrib> penk: on 12.04 aptitude will cause you issues with multi-arch.  In 12.10 and later, it should be okay
[14:39] <penk> interesting.
[14:39] <Espen> Anyone care to explain fglrx to me? Is it open-source or AMD's own driver blob? Because cchtml.com refers xorg edgers ppa as open-source drivers, but yet you find fglrx drivers there? + Whats up with those fglrx version numbers? Why aren't they called 13.4? etc?
[14:39] <penk> should i do the update with apt-get here?
[14:39] <jrib> penk: I don't really see why you would be getting the message.  Maybe pastebin what you are seeing in the logs?
[14:39] <ubuntuaddicted> jrib, huh? what do you mean issues with multi-arch?
[14:39] <penk> one moment.
[14:39] <NetFlam> Hi
[14:39] <jrib> ubuntuaddicted: as in it gets confused and wants to remove half of your packages if you use multi-arch
[14:39] <jrib> !aptitude | ubuntuaddicted
[14:40] <ubuntuaddicted> jrib, what is "multi-arch"?
[14:40] <codephobic> hi
[14:40] <jrib> ubuntuaddicted: you can have an amd64 system with i386 packages
[14:40] <ubuntuaddicted> jrib, ah, i see.
[14:40] <jrib> !aptitude =~ s/and higher/and 12.04/
[14:41] <jrib> !aptitude =~ s/currently//
[14:41] <codephobic> I'm having a few issues getting my mounts to work in 13.04. I used cifs to access my readyNAS duo previously, in 12.10, but in 13.04 it doesn't seem to work
[14:41] <codephobic> I tried a clean install of 13.04 and I can't even get smbfs to install
[14:41] <codephobic> apt-get doesn't recognise the package at all
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> !info smbfs
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> codephonic: was that the correct package name?
[14:42] <codephobic> !info smbfs
[14:42] <penk> jrib: very odd.  nothing in the history.log file showing mysql-common being touched until i ran the aptitude upgrade mysql-common
[14:42] <theadmin> codephobic: cifs-utils
[14:42] <penk> which successfully upgraded.
[14:42] <theadmin> codephobic: "smbfs" is ages old, it's "cifs" as of now.
[14:42] <Espen> Anyone care to explain fglrx to me? Is it open-source or AMD's own driver blob? Because cchtml.com refers xorg edgers ppa as open-source drivers, but yet you find fglrx drivers there? + Whats up with those fglrx version numbers? Why aren't they called 13.4? etc?
[14:42] <codephobic> theadmin, ah, thanks.
[14:43] <adamk> Espen: fglrx is proprietary, not open source.
[14:43] <theadmin> Espen: fglrx is propretiary, as for version numbers, eeh... Ask AMD
[14:43] <Espen> then is the x.org edgers not open source?
[14:43] <theadmin> Espen: I think it has more than just fglrx, no?
[14:44] <vak> hi all, will be the /home/myuser/Documents preserved after upgrade?
[14:44] <stercor> Thanks!
[14:44] <theadmin> vak: Everything is preserved if you upgrade using the Update Manager, including apps, files, etc
[14:44] <designbybeck> So if I download the 13.04 iso...and compare it to the checksum and they both are the same, that means it downloaded correctly and isn't corrupt?
[14:44] <adamk> Espen: They have two different version numbers, one presumably for internal use and one for consumer use.  Makes things extra complicated.
[14:44] <vak> theadmin: ok, thanks!
[14:44] <UbuNoob> would it be something like   sudo chown -R 777 $plex:$david /media/zam/Media1 ?
[14:44] <theadmin> designbybeck: Yep
[14:44] <designbybeck> gotcha...thank you theadmin
[14:45] <adamk> Espen: X.org Edgers is a repo for various X related pcakages, both open source and not.
[14:45] <jrib> designbybeck: very probably :)
[14:45] <Espen> ah alright
[14:45] <theadmin> UbuNoob: "chown" changes ownership, not permissions, 777 has nothing to do there.
[14:45] <theadmin> UbuNoob: Also $ refers to environment variables, you likely don't want that there.
[14:45] <designbybeck> I think I had a problem with the USB drive itself I am using and/or unetbootin
[14:46] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, no, do you have a video group?
[14:46] <helmut_> hi
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> does 13.04 have the choice to remove usernames at login screen?
[14:46] <UbuNoob> Video group .. no
[14:46] <nxt_> hi
[14:46] <Espen> last question: ubuntu lists this for 13.04, Package: fglrx-updates (2:9.012-0ubuntu1) [restricted]. and xorg edgers:  fglrx-installer-12 	2:12.104-0ubuntu1~xedgers~raring1
[14:46] <Espen> the xorg edgers is newer yes?
[14:46] <codephobic> theadmin, is it still correct to use //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/directory /media/mydirectory cifs -o username=...,password=...,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,iocharset=utf8 0 0?
[14:47] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: hidden-users option under [UserAccounts] in /etc/lightdm/users.conf
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: it still needs manually config right?
[14:47] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, ok, what's your users name?
[14:47] <theadmin> codephobic: If you mean in fstab, then almost... -o isn't supposed to be there.
[14:47] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Well yeah, can't find it in the GUIs
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: tnx
[14:48] <codephobic> theadmin, yes and thanks
[14:48] <theadmin> codephobic: -o is used to specify options for the "mount" command
[14:48] <rAnd0m> Hello World!
[14:48] <Eit8> I'm having a problem with unity, I can't seem to apply changes to unity behaviour/icon size from the appearance menu
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> Eit8: older hardware? did you try a reboot?
[14:49] <UbuNoob> I have two users right now   plex and David  I eventually see adding Sue John and Alex so maybe I should create a group, give the group permissions to read write execute and add the new users to that group?
[14:49] <Eit8> lotuspsychje: long story short, I had to reinstall my legacy ATI driver to make it work after 13.04 upgrade, then it worked but I'm having some flaws
[14:49] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, i would suggest changing the group of the /media/zam/Media1 to match your users group name. sudo chgrp -R username /media/zam/Media1
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> Eit8: did you check additional drivers section if you installed correct one?
[14:50] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, that would work as well. you may have a video group already. what does entering "groups" return in the comand line?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: you can use chown to set groups too :)
[14:51] <uroyanme> what format should I format my external H-drive so its universal format?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> chmod .groupname folder
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> uroyanme: NTFS can be read by both Windows and Ubuntu
[14:51] <UbuNoob> zam  adm  cdrom  sudo  dip  plugdev  lpadmin  sambashare
[14:51] <uroyanme> ActionParsnip: Once again, Thanks!
[14:52] <Eit8> lotuspsychje: drivers are ok, I've checked that
[14:52] <uroyanme> ActionParsnip: What utility again?
[14:52] <jrib> ActionParsnip: it's 2013 use ':' not '.' :)
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> uroyanme: if you want to format to NTFS, use a windows box
[14:52] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: And chown... Not chmod :P
[14:52] <codephobic> theadmin, I'm still getting an error "mount error(95)". I created a credentials file under /root, then stored my username and password as "username=xxxx, password=xxxx"
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> Eit8: did the default driver not work properly (the one that setup choose)?
[14:52] <uroyanme> ActionParsnip: Using ubuntu.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: d'oh, thanks :)
[14:53] <uroyanme> ActionParsnip: I figured it out, thanks
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> uroyanme: its a proprietary file system, I believe there is a tool in Ubuntu but the only real people who know how to format ntfs properly are microsoft
[14:53] <Eit8> lotuspsychje: the default driver never worked for me, because I'm using an HD4890, the support was dropped many months ago
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> Eit8: maybe a clean install would sort the correct driver for you?
[14:53] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, yes but don't you also have to specify the username with it, example sudo chown foo:groupname /mount/
[14:54] <uroyanme> ActionParsnip: Fat is universal?
[14:54] <Eit8> lotuspsychje: you mean I should reinstall ubuntu ?
[14:54] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, ok, you may want to create a video group, change the group for that folder to video, then add your users to that group
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> uroyanme: yes but not very robust, fat32 is a lot better but has a 4Gb file size limit
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: that does it too :)
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> Eit8: im gonna clean install for sure, yes..
[14:55] <uroyanme> Ok, going to do some reasearch, thanks pal
[14:55] <codephobic> anyone got a working method for permanently mounting NAS/windows network folders in 13.04?
[14:55] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, OR, like me, i just made the folders with /media/ group be my username and then i add other users to my group BUT it depends how you want to control users access
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> Eit8: maybe someone in channel knows a trick to reinstall the driver that 13.04 would go for by default?
[14:56] <Eit8> lotuspsychje: it's a compiz config problem for sure
[14:56] <uroyanme> ActionParsnip: I have ext2 and ext4 as an option. Ext4 is better?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> Eit8: you dont use unity?
[14:56] <joalland> \join #ubuntu-fr
[14:57] <Eit8> lotuspsychje: I'm using distros way more unstable than this and I never had any problem that I had to sort reinstalling, this is just ridicolous
[14:57] <UbuNoob> to create a group ... groupadd Video  ?
[14:58] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, sudo groupadd video
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> Eit8: im just sugesting what i would do mate, clean install
[14:58] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, linux is very sensitive with capital and lowercase
[14:58] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, i think. ;)
[14:58] <UbuNoob> I found that the hard way :\
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> uroyanme: windows can't read ext4
[14:59] <uroyanme> can it read 2?
[14:59] <ackbahr> Hi! I've got Ubuntu 12.10 and ran "sudo update-manager -d". It offers to install the ALPHA release of 13.04. What should I do?
[14:59] <Bostoman> it's not that linux is very sensitive it's just that some other OS is insensitive ;)
[15:00] <ubuntuaddicted> uroyanme, with a driver windows can read ext3
[15:00] <theadmin> ackbahr: You shouldn't run it with -d
[15:00] <ackbahr> theadmin: Ok, I'll try that.
[15:00] <adelaidePChealth> heya all ;-)
[15:01] <uroyanme> How do I delete lost and found on my 1 terabyte hdrive?
[15:01] <ackbahr> theadmin: Ok, I don't see the alpha warning anymore... Thanks!
[15:02] <theadmin> uroyanme: Uh, you don't, it's an essential part of extfs
[15:02] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, then sudo usermod -G video david plex
[15:02] <uroyanme> theadmin: Thank you.
[15:02] <uroyanme> You guys are great!
[15:02] <jrib> ubuntuaddicted, UbuNoob: do not run that usermod command
[15:02] <genii-around> ubuntuaddicted: If you do that without -a  then "video" will be the *ONLY* group they belong to
[15:03] <genii-around> ubuntuaddicted:
[15:03] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, OOPS, sorry, wrong command
[15:03] <Vampir3> hi, i install ubuntu 13.04 alongside win 7, install cmplete and i restart the system, but still only boot win 7
[15:03] <UbuNoob> ok.. I havent
[15:03] <Bostoman> Vampir3,  did you configure grub correclty?
[15:04] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, once you have your video group created, you could use the users and group GUI.
[15:04] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, but in order for changes to take effect, you'll have to log out and log back in
[15:04] <Vampir3> where??? not option for do that
[15:05] <Bostoman> hmm did you upgrade or did a fresh install?
[15:05] <UbuNoob> so.. create a GUI group?
[15:05] <Vampir3> fresh install
[15:06] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, no, i didn't say that. did you create the video group yet?
[15:06] <Vampir3> 2 gig for swap, 30 for / and 40 for /home
[15:06] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, GUI stands for Graphical User Interface.
[15:06] <Vampir3> i tried to reinstall but still same problem
[15:07] <Bostoman> yes but the problem is that your MBR of the disk you boot from only knows about windows probably
[15:07] <Random_> Greetings.
[15:07] <Bostoman> if I'm not mistaken the installer should ask you if you want to use grub
[15:07] <Vampir3> only for knowing, i have not problem with dualboot openSUSE
[15:07] <nugroho> WHA420355-SOC155694-YMH297433-WHA800477-JPL749250-APB800779
[15:08] <Vampir3> no, not askin anything
[15:08] <UbuNoob> ah .. ok .. I tried to groudadd video but, group 'video' already exists
[15:08] <Bostoman> hmmm
[15:09] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, i was merely stating that after you do sudo groupadd video
[15:09] <brian__> Hi All. I just installed 13.04. I live in China but am not Chinese. My language settings are for English, yet my 'back' and 'next' buttons for UbuntuOne are in Chinese. How can I fix this?
[15:10] <codephobic> other than cifs-utils, what else needs to be installed before you can mount windows folders in ubuntu 13.04? I think my fstab is 100% correct - it's now a direct copy of the one that is working in ubuntu 12.10
[15:10] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, that's what I thought, you could just open the GUI within system settings called Users and Groups, then modify the video group so it includes david and plex
[15:10] <uroyanme> Using my terminal, how do I get into my external hdrive?
[15:10] <Vampir3> how can in install grub manually?
[15:11] <ubuntuaddicted> uroyanme, is it mounted?
[15:11] <ubuntuaddicted> uroyanme, using mount you can see if it is and where
[15:11] <subthalamus> it is possible there are some bad hdparm settings in my startup files somewhere, how can I find them?
[15:11] <uroyanme> its mounted
[15:12] <ubuntuaddicted> uroyanme, so what do you mean by "get into it"
[15:12] <UbuNoob> Oh.. Ive got you but I can only see User accounts in all Settings User Accounts.. I dont see a way to add a user to a group
[15:12] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, you still with me?
[15:12] <uroyanme> not click into it, but terminal into it
[15:12] <uroyanme> /dev/sdf1 on /media/Terabyte 1 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[15:12] <uroyanme> is that it?
[15:12] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, at the bottom, manage groups
[15:13] <ubuntuaddicted> uroyanme, i don't know, is your external drive 1TB?
[15:13] <uroyanme> I wish to shred a file.
[15:13] <uroyanme> yes
[15:13] <Bostoman> Vampir3 with a linux live cd you can do it, there's also a project called grub4dos
[15:13] <ubuntuaddicted> uroyanme, ok, whats the file name?
[15:13] <Bostoman> they claim they can do it from windows... :D
[15:14] <uroyanme> lol. dont ask why. kali-linux-1.0.2-i386.torrent
[15:14] <ubuntuaddicted> subthalamus, sudo hdparm -i
[15:14] <UbuNoob> I dont see manage groups/// Backup, Details, Landscape Service, Softwatre and updates, Date & Time, Universwal Access and User Accounts
[15:14] <Vampir3> :D why the reason of this problem? i cant really understand!
[15:14] <carif> is the Compiz Setting Manager deprecated for changing Unity settings? Should I use gconftool-2 or gconf-editor?
[15:14] <ubuntuaddicted> subthalamus, and then the device name
[15:14] <uroyanme> no such file or directory
[15:15] <UbuNoob> that was the last row of System Settings
[15:15] <subthalamus> ubuntuaddicted: my question was how to find possibly erroneous hdparm options/parameters in startup files
[15:15] <subthalamus> ubuntuaddicted: the reason for the question is in fact because of an error thrown when the command hdparm -i is run
[15:15] <ubuntuaddicted> subthalamus, oh, not sure if any hdparm options are set automagically
[15:18] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, you still with me?
[15:19] <uroyanme> Ubuntuaddicted: How do I access my external hardrive using Terminal? sry
[15:19] <uroyanme> cd... cat?
[15:19] <mjbshaw> I'm having a weird issue with Ubuntu 13.04. If I "sudo shutdown -r now" from an ssh session, it fails to boot unless I have a keyboard plugged into the physical device... I'm puzzled. Any clues from anyone?
[15:19] <UbuNoob> Im here ... I dont see manage groups only Backup, Details, Landscape Service, Softwatre and updates, Date & Time, Universwal Access and User Accounts
[15:19] <DogLover> Would a 32-bit version run faster on a 64-bit machine than the 64-bit version?
[15:19] <llutz> DogLover: no
[15:20] <nibbler_> in very rare cases it might ;-)
[15:20] <uroyanme> Ubuntuaddicted: I figured it out =/
[15:20] <ubuntuaddicted> uroyanme, cd /path/
[15:20] <ubuntuaddicted> uroyanme, ls to show all the contents of that directory
[15:20] <DogLover> Ok. Just wondering. the download page says that if the PC has a Win8 logo on it to use the 64-bit. It also says the 64-bit is for newer machines. My machine is about 5 years old or more.
[15:20] <uroyanme> ubuntuaddicted: Yea I was trying to find the path
[15:20] <uroyanme> I understand ls, I am a newb, sory. it was /media
[15:21] <uroyanme> Awesome you. Thanks gusy
[15:21] <tyrog> DogLover: You probably need the 32bit version
[15:21] <zvacet> DogLover: if you don´t have win8 install 32 bit version
[15:21] <llutz> DogLover: if your CPU supports 64bit, go for 64bit. (no idea what the win8-logo has to do with it)
[15:22] <DogLover> ok. how can I find out what the CPU supports in Ubuntu?
[15:22] <tyrog> llutz: The win8 logo has to do with secureboot, not the number of bits your processor supports
[15:22] <zvacet> llutz: I think it is about uefi or secure boot
[15:22] <tyrog> all processors nowadays support 64bits
[15:22] <zvacet> DogLover: how much ram do you have?
[15:23] <tyrog> DogLover: what is your processor?
[15:23] <DogLover> 2.9
[15:23] <krabador> hi, why with ATI Radeon HD 2350 and 13.04 with fglrx-updates i've only the wallpaper????
[15:23] <ubuntuaddicted> DogLover, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:23] <purplerain> this is silly question, but where can i find the alternate cd for raring?
[15:23] <DogLover> I have a Intel® Celeron(R) CPU 420 @ 1.60GHz
[15:23] <llutz> purplerain: you can't, it was dropped with 12.10 afaik
[15:23] <tyrog> krabador: afaik fglrx doesn't support cards older than hd5x series
[15:23] <DJones> purplerain: It doesn't exist anymore, you have to use either the desktop or the minimal iso's
[15:23] <zvacet> krabado: I don´t think that gpu is supported
[15:24] <zvacet> krabador: use radeon driver
[15:24] <tyrog> DogLover: How much RAM?
[15:24] <krabador> zvacet, how can i come back?
[15:24] <zvacet> DogLover: install 32 bit version
[15:24] <brian__>  Hi All. I just installed 13.04. I live in China but am not Chinese. My language settings are for English, yet my 'back' and 'next' buttons for UbuntuOne are in Chinese. How can I fix this?
[15:24] <DogLover> 2.9GB RAM
[15:24] <zvacet> krabador: downgrade?
[15:25] <m4gnus> Does anyone know if it's still possible to upgrade to the next version in command line?
[15:25] <purplerain> llutz: ugh ok. but then how do i install raring in an encrypted hdd? theres no options to mount the drive in regular cd.
[15:25] <tyrog> DogLover: You can install either 32 or 64 bits
[15:25] <tyrog> ubuntu
[15:25] <llutz> purplerain: doesnt the desktop-cd have a boot-menu option for that? sry idk
[15:26] <theadmin> m4gnus: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:26] <theadmin> m4gnus: (provided by update-manager-core)
[15:26] <DogLover> My current version is 64-bit. I am wondering would a 32-bit be faster cause 64 is kinda slow.
[15:26] <krabador> zvacet, yes, i would reuse radeon,
[15:26] <krabador> zvacet, i installed fglrx-updates
[15:26] <tyrog> DogLover: What is your current OS?
[15:26] <krabador> zvacet, and now i would come back
[15:26] <Vampir3> not any solution except reainstall grub?
[15:26] <krabador> zvacet, ubuntu 13.04
[15:27] <zvacet> krabador: and they  don´t work?
[15:27] <m4gnus> theadmin, thank you
[15:27] <ubuntuaddicted> UbuNoob, you still there?
[15:27] <m4gnus> theadmin: Apparently I have no new release