[00:01] <OerHeks> sullvian, add it to startup applications?
[00:01] <sullvian> I have a ubuntu desktop, and I do not have that option OerHeks
[00:01] <sullvian> sorry lubuntu
[00:03] <sullvian> I try to add in crontab but it does not start
[00:03] <OerHeks> for lubuntu that would be something like ~/.config/autostart
[00:06] <sullvian> [OerHeks] that directory does not exist, or I do not see it in the root
[00:09] <OerHeks> lxqt-config-session, or in your menu ? https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.13/session_settings.html
[00:16] <sullvian> thanks, I added transmission-gtk to the autostart, but it does not boot, what can it be due to?
[00:17] <sullvian> thanks if it works, it takes a while to boot, so why use vmware
[00:18] <murthy> youtube-dl not working with youtube
[00:18] <tomreyn> !bug | murthy
[00:18] <OerHeks> use full path for the starter,  /usr/bin/transmission-gtk -m
[00:19] <murthy> I will file a bug, If you confirm
[00:19] <sullvian> in that tab can I also add and applications? OerHeks
[00:19] <sullvian> in that tab can I also add javascript scripts and applications?
[00:20] <tomreyn> murthy: you haven'Ät even told us which ubuntu release you're running, how would anyone confirm?
[00:20] <sullvian> sh , js
[00:20] <murthy> tomreyn: 18.10
[00:20] <murthy> tomreyn: youtube-dl version "2018.09.10"
[00:23] <OerHeks> sullvian, you just did add an application
[00:24] <tomreyn> murthy: i don't have 18.10, but will test on 18.04 and a 19.04 preview
[00:27] <murthy> tomreyn: what is the command to run a snap?
[00:27] <tomreyn> murthy: i run into errors on 18.04, not on 19.04
[00:27] <murthy> tomreyn: whats the youtube-dl version on 18.04?
[00:27] <tomreyn> !info youtube-dl bionic
[00:28] <OerHeks> not snap: youtube-dl version 2018.03.14
[00:28] <tomreyn> murthy: snap install PACKAGE  # And then you just run the binary it provides, often names the same as the package.
[00:28] <murthy> tomreyn: thats not working
[00:29] <murthy> tomreyn: package name is youtube-dl-snap
[00:29] <tomreyn> murthy: see /snap/bin for commands the snaps provide
[00:29] <murthy> ok
[00:30] <OerHeks> https://snapcraft.io/youtube-dl is the latest, https://snapcraft.io/youtube-dl-snap is old
[00:31] <murthy> ok let me try that
[00:31] <OerHeks> snapcraft.io get clogged with versions
[00:34] <murthy> tomreyn: OerHeks snap works fine with youtube
[00:36] <murthy> youtube-dl snap package version is 2019.02.18
[00:37] <murthy> !info youtube-dl disco
[00:37] <tomreyn> murthy: i'm not surprised, since it also works with 19.04, which has 2019.01.17-1
[00:38] <tomreyn> murthy: here's what i get to see on 18.04.2 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZFPhnZGQkk/
[00:38] <murthy> tomreyn: oh it works on 19.04
 murthy: i run into errors on 18.04, not on 19.04
[00:39] <murthy> Then I guess since its an upgrade and not a bug fix, it wont be accepted for 18.10?
[00:39] <murthy> tomreyn: ^
[00:39] <tomreyn> murthy: if it'sbroken in 18.10, then it can be fixed in 18.10.
[00:40] <murthy> tomreyn: ok I will file a bug
[00:40] <tomreyn> but as ubottu told you, "In component universe"
[00:40] <tomreyn> so it's DIY
[00:41] <murthy> tomreyn: do you package?
[00:41] <tomreyn> either identify and backport the patch, or request an !sru
[00:41] <tomreyn> no, not really
[00:42] <murthy> tomreyn: 19.04 will be mid apr?
[00:42] <tomreyn> !19.04
[00:43] <tomreyn> if you can't fix it yourself, it's also fine to just report it (after you verified that it has not yet been reported)
[00:43] <murthy> ok
[00:48] <murthy> tomreyn: can I just update this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1529647
[00:50] <tomreyn> murthy: i'm not sure whether an "always backport newer versions" process exists. so i don't know whether this bug report makes much sense in its current form.
[00:52] <murthy> tomreyn: The following bug is a duplicate of the above one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1704368
[00:52] <murthy> so If I file a new one, I guess that too will be a duplicate?
[00:53] <OerHeks> sudo youtube-dl -U # youtube-dl: error: youtube-dl's self-update mechanism is disabled on Debian.
[00:53] <Talen> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 18.04 on raid 1 boot and I seem to be going in circles.  I created 512m system uefi partition on both in the beginning, then free space for rest, setup raid 1 on both, set free space to ext4 and /, and go to "install ubuntu" next step and it keeps putting me into partitioner
[00:53] <tomreyn> murthy: i cannot predict how the maintainer or bug trager will handle your reports.
[00:54] <tomreyn> Talen: which installation method / installer are you using?
[00:55] <Talen> I downloaded the alternative installer
[00:55] <Talen> the default one wouldn't allow boot off raid 1
[00:55] <tomreyn> alternative server installer, 18.04.2 amd64?
[00:56] <Talen> yes
[00:58] <tomreyn> Talen: when you say "I created 512m system uefi partition on both in the beginning", does this mean you created 512 MB sized partitions directly on the first and second system disk? which file system /usage and mount points did you assign?
[00:59] <tomreyn> if you put those efi system partitions on RAID-1, you're doing it wrong.
[00:59] <tomreyn> they need to be read-/writable by the firmware.
[00:59] <Talen> Yes, then selected "Use as" efi system (that's what the tutorial said)
[01:00] <tomreyn> the one and only tutorial?
[01:00] <Talen> I tried just setting them raid reserved as well and setup raid 1
[01:00] <Talen> I tried like 6
[01:00] <Talen> lol
[01:00] <Talen> they were all different
[01:00] <Talen> I've set 512MB as raid reserved then set it to /boot, and system partition uefi
[01:00] <tomreyn> ESP must be a partition on the first disk the firmware gets to see.
[01:01] <Talen> I chose first and beginning
[01:01] <Talen> Should I set them as raid reserved then setup raid 1 on it?  There are a few tutorials and all do it differently
[01:02] <tomreyn> you can have another partition of the same size, and same file system type, on another disk, but you should only have a single ESP. and there can be no other software based disk structures, such as software RAID, encryption, LVM or similar below the ESP.
[01:04] <tomreyn> bug 1817066 discusses some of this
[01:05] <tomreyn> /boot can be on raid-1, that'S okay, just not the ESP
[01:06] <Talen> so 512m on each disk set to "raid member" then make it raid 1 and /boot?
[01:06] <Talen> then other partition raid 1 for /?
[01:07] <Talen> I believe I tried that and it kept taking me back to partitioner when trying to go past it
[01:13] <tomreyn> Talen: i think i explained before, but i can repeat and put it into context: You need an ESP for UEFI booting. It (does not have but) should be the first parition on the first system disk, which has to have a GPT partition table. There can be no other file system or block device structures in between, since the firmware will not understand these, but it has to find, and read from, and sometimes also write to, the ESP.
[01:14] <tomreyn> Talen: the ESP is a FAT32 file system, it should have a size somewhere between 250 MB (may not work with all firmwares) and 512 MB (most compatble).
[01:15] <Squarism> is there some other techique to switching apps than bring up app-switcher and cycle/navigate through the available apps?
[01:15] <tomreyn> Talen: whether or not you have a /boot partition seperate from the rest of the installation, and whether or not it's on a RAID-1, does not matter
[01:15] <Squarism> i mean could i assign hotkeys to certain window? Can i search for apps? Can I label windows and search for labels?
[01:15] <CodeMouse92> Squarism: I always use Alt-Tab myself
[01:16] <CodeMouse92> There are configurable keyboard shortcuts for workplace switching, too, so you can switch between entire sets of windows with a keypress
[01:16] <Talen> This is what I have right now https://i.imgur.com/rifPiYT.png but I can't go to install as it keeps sending me back to partition
[01:17] <CodeMouse92> Squarism: If you're using Ubuntu 18.04 (or later), bring up the Keyboard settings. That will list all the existing shortcuts, and you can see and modify them there.
[01:17] <CodeMouse92> Specifically scroll down the list of shortcuts to the "Windows" section at the end for all the window-switching shortcuts
[01:17] <Squarism> I found them.
[01:17] <CodeMouse92> Cheers!
[01:17] <CodeMouse92> Oops! Actually, the Navigation section is what you want. It's about halfway down.
[01:18] <CodeMouse92> Fact is, I haven't used the activity view to switch between windows YET. :P
[01:19] <tomreyn> Talen: undo RAID1 device #0, change partition #1 on SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) to ESP. this will only work if you previously manually created a GPT partition table on this storage.
[01:24] <tomreyn> Talen: sorry, part of what i wrote is wrong, you don't have to use a GPT partition table, msdos will also work.
[01:25] <Talen> I wiped all the partitions in the ubuntu partitioner, not sure what it uses I assume GPT?
[01:25] <Talen> was doing all partitioning through the alternative installer
[01:26] <annihilator> how do i disable the touchscreen keyboard'
[01:26] <annihilator> ubuntu 18
[01:27] <Talen> seems I'm better off just doing zfs mirror for boot since this is just as much as a hassle, I'll be using zfs for the other disks anyway
[01:27] <tomreyn> Talen: debian-installer (which you are using) defaults to MBR / "msdos" partition tables. IIRC there are situations where it will switch to GPT itself, but i don't recall what triggers it. probably it's either whether you booted in UEFI mode or whether the promary disk is larger than 2 TB.
[01:27] <Squarism> Would you agree linux desktop isnt innovating much?
[01:27] <tomreyn> !ot | Squarism
[01:27] <Talen> I have 2 256G SSD and 15 4TB
[01:27] <Squarism> ops
[01:27] <Talen> i'm trying to raid 1 the ssd, and leave the 4tb for zfs
[01:34] <tomreyn> Talen: here's what i would do: reboot the installer you have there, bring up grub menu, select advanced installation. set up keyboard, switch to tty2, use parted (may need to install the locally available udeb) to create a GPT partition on both ssds. switch back to tty1, continue installation, do manaul partitioning. create 512 MB ESP/EFI partition on first ssd. create 512 MB  FAT-32 partition on second ssd. create partition covering the rest of
[01:34] <tomreyn> available space on both ssd's, type raid-2, create a raid-1 across both components. create / on top of RAID-1 array (or add LVM in between, if needed).
[01:37] <tomreyn> Talen: and once your installation is done and the system boots fine, you do the zfs on the other disks (but read up on zfs licensing vs linux licensing issues if you haven't).
[01:48] <royal_screwup21> anyone know how to turn up/down brightness in ubuntu 17.10? I (foolishly) upgraded from 16.04 to said version, now this key isn't working. I tried changing grub setting as suggested in one SO answer, but that didn't work. I tried configuring GNOME brightness extension but that didn't work either.
[01:53] <tomreyn> !17.10 | royal_screwup21
[01:54] <aurolac> just tried to run 0ad from a snap
[01:54] <aurolac> got this error, 0ad
[01:54] <aurolac> execv failed: No such file or directory
[01:54] <aurolac> any ideas?
[01:54] <tomreyn> aurolac: talk to the package maintainer
[01:56] <aurolac> so its not a snap issue?
[01:56] <calher> Does Ubuntu 16.04's file manager know how to mount LVM volumes?
[01:56] <reepicheep_> vel
[01:57] <tomreyn> aurolac: If something a snap provides doesn'T work, it's either a bug in the snap or in the snap daemon/tooling or in the snap infrastructure. Until the first is ruled out, don't bother considering the other options.
[01:57] <tomreyn> aurolac: note there are two separate 0 A.D. snaps available, one of which provides multiple channels.
[02:00] <tomreyn> calher: LVM logical volumes can't be mounted themselves, only if they contain a supported file system. this said, i *think* (not actually sure) nautilus (the default gnome + unity file manager) can handle those via udisks and / or gvfs in 16.04.6
[02:02] <calher> tomreyn: The partition with the LVM is an XFS file system.
[02:03] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: do you understand the security impact of running an operating system (supposedly on a network) which has reached its end of life half a year ago?
[02:03] <tomreyn> calher: hmm, so you tried and it didn't work?
[02:03] <royal_screwup21> i didn't know until few seconds ago support for that version had ended
[02:04] <calher> tomreyn: I asked here to see if it's worth rebooting into my Ubuntu live USB and trying it.
[02:04] <calher> My system's messed up and I'm using someone else's computer to get to my disk.
[02:04] <CodeMouse92> royal_screwup21: Definitely try 18.04 (LTS) or 18.10. I'll bet the brightness will be working there
[02:05] <CodeMouse92> If not, come on back!
[02:05] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: non !LTS releases generally have no more than 9 months of support. the channel topic here usually lists the supported releases. running "ubuntu-support-status" can also help getting a better understanding of the support status of a specific system.
[02:05] <calher> OK, going downstairs to get my USB.
[02:06] <tomreyn> calher: why not go for the latest LTS release instead, Ubuntu 18.04 ?
[02:07] <calher> tomreyn: All our computers are stuck on 16.04 until we can migrate everything.  I use the 16.04 live USB for testing purposes.
[02:09] <tomreyn> calher: i see. well, you got two years left (plus ESM, potentially). maybe the software you cannot migrate, yet, could also be installed as a snap, in a chroot, in a container or VM.
[02:09] <tomreyn> calher: be sure to use the latest 16.04 live/installer iso for testing, released today.
[02:10] <calher> Yeah, we're working on it.  It should be ready in a few months.
[02:10] <calher> tomreyn: Link?
[02:10] <tomreyn> https://releases.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <tomreyn> probably also somewhere on ubuntu.com
[02:12] <calher> Thanks.
[02:12] <tomreyn> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads has torrent links (only)
[02:13] <tomreyn> ...and theyre not updated, yet
[02:14] <royal_screwup21> is it a good idea to lock if you want to take a break for a short while and come back and open up instantly? I've been doing that, but I don't know for sure if the "wear and tear" from background has actually affected performance
[02:19] <whoareU> i made a bootalbe usb of install image, i can us the iso in virtualbox, but i can't boot it from my pc , what matters
[02:22] <tomreyn> whoareU: what happens when you try to boot it on your real computer?
[02:22] <calher> Hm. The torrent seems a bit slow.
[02:22] <tomreyn> calher: it's young.
[02:22] <CodeMouse92> calher: P.S. If you're using Transmission, you didn't click the turtle button in the corner, did you? ;)
[02:22]  * CodeMouse92 asks because he did that once
[02:22] <calher> Ha, I did not.
[02:23] <CodeMouse92> I'll start seeing 16.04.05, see if that helps (I've got good net)
[02:24] <CodeMouse92> I usually seed all of Ubuntu's live images, but I haven't done this one yet
[02:24] <calher> CodeMouse92: It's 16.04.6 now.
[02:24] <CodeMouse92> Er, .6 yes
[02:24] <whoareU> tomreyn: the pc prompt me type any key to boot from usb , i dit , the pc directly beging a new os which is a windows i had installed
[02:24] <CodeMouse92> calher: You're x64, yes?
[02:24] <calher> Correct.
[02:25] <CodeMouse92> kk, I'll get that seeding in a mo
[02:27] <tomreyn> whoareU: i do not understand "the pc directly beging a new os which is a windows i had installed"
[02:28] <whoareU> windows os has been installed ,i plan building two os ,
[02:29] <tomreyn> whoareU: are you saying the ubuntu installation stick installed windows?
[02:29] <whoareU> right
[02:30] <tomreyn> i have my doubts on this
[02:30] <OerHeks> when this is windows 10 and a recent pc with UEFI, you might want to check the manual
[02:31] <whoareU> by the way , the pc is 32-bit , and both windows and linux os are 32-bit
[02:31] <CodeMouse92> calher: Now seeing. Hope that helps you out!
[02:31] <CodeMouse92> *seeding
[02:32] <tomreyn> whoareU: maybe you also need https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <whoareU> thanks
[02:37]  * calher jumps into the pool with CodeMouse92
[02:38] <whoareU> tomreyn: my bootable usb made by dd command, there is another question, how to verify it
[02:40] <calher> I use Fedora Media Writer to write ISOs now.
[02:40] <paus> hi
[02:40] <calher> How long will it take for me to get any download speed?
[02:41] <paus> no
[02:41] <calher> Hi paus ! :D
[02:41] <paus> hi calher
[02:41] <paus> hello
[02:42] <r1c> hi all
[02:42] <r1c> does anyone know if netplan only accepts wifi passwords in plaintext?
[02:43] <calher> Yay!  I'm getting a little bit of down now!  2 kB/s...
[02:43] <tomreyn> whoareU: 2nd link i posted
[02:47] <CodeMouse92> calher: Curious (a) what client you're using, and (b) what's your net speed?
[02:48] <calher> CodeMouse92: (a) Transmission, (b) IDK.  148 kB/s down now.
[02:49] <CodeMouse92> calher: If you right click on the torrent in Transmission, click Properties, and go to Trackers, is torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 on there?
[02:49] <Aleric> Hello. I believe to have discovered bug in getnameinfo(3). How/where would I report such a bug?
[02:51] <calher> CodeMouse92: Yes.
[02:51] <CodeMouse92> Okay, so you're on the right tracker, then. Hm, dunno.
[02:53] <tomreyn> Aleric: first identify the package it belongs to, then run "ubuntu-bug PACKAGE" (replacing PACKAGE by the actual package name) to report the bug against your ubuntu release. alternatively, or additionally, read the very man pages' COLOPHON section to file a bug upstream.
[02:54] <CodeMouse92> calher: You can test your net speed with http://speedtest.net/
[02:54] <tomreyn> calher: i just downloaded using the same trackers with several MB/s, so i believe it has to do with your internet access.
[02:54] <Aleric> tomreyn: The getnameinfo manpage says "Since glibc 2.22", so I suppose it belongs to package libc6?
[02:55] <calher> tomreyn: It's speeding up now.
[02:56] <calher> 168 kB/s now
[02:57] <tomreyn> Aleric: you are jumping to conclusions. does this tell you which packages this man page beloings to?  dpkg -S getnameinfo
[02:57] <tomreyn> *packagE
[03:01] <Aleric> tomreyn: No, that just lists the package names of the man pages for that function. It is implemented in libc though...
[03:02] <Aleric> >readelf -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 | grep getnameinfo
[03:02] <Aleric>    931:<PHONE_NUMBER>13e360  1551 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT   13 getnameinfo@@GLIBC_2.2.5
[03:03] <tomreyn> Aleric: "getnameinfo(3)", which you said you want to report a bug against, refers to the man page, section 3, of the "getnameinfo()" function. this man page is part of the "Linux Programmer's Manual", packaged as manpages-dev in Ubuntu, as indicated by "dpkg -S getnameinfo"
[03:04] <tomreyn> Aleric: if you instead want to file a bug against the actual "getnameinfo()" function, this is part of linux.
[03:05] <Aleric> It's common to refer to a function by it's man page (aka, type getnameinfo(3))... the bug is in the function, not the man page.
[03:05] <tomreyn> so the linux kernel. "ubuntu-bug linux", upstream bug tracker is https://bugzilla.kernel.org
[03:06] <Aleric> yeah no... it's not part of the linux kernel :p
[03:08] <yvyz> I think I am sick of Nvidia and its failures. Took me 2 hours to fix apt after attempting to install nvidia-309 through Software and Updates. And it still didnt take until I had to loop -f install and update over and over again.  Ive never had an entire package manager dependency list break over video drivers before. Other things ofcourse, but FFS, something so basic and ubiquitus as wanting to SEE YOUR DESKTOP...
[03:10] <tomreyn> !ot
[03:10] <tomreyn> ^ yvyz
[03:10] <yvyz> I love how the community continueally cares about all these great new technologies and building web apps, turns around and complains about video drivers and display, and only a FEW sit down and develop solutions.
[03:11] <yvyz> Oh great, ubuntu core on an rpi.
[03:11] <tomreyn> please stay on topic
[03:11] <yvyz> But I cannot easily install one of the most basic of drivers
[03:11] <calher> Ubuntu works fine on my ten year old ThinkPad.  Suspend/resume, everything's great.
[03:11] <yvyz> Thats pretty on topic as its a common ubuntu/debian issue esp after the systemd change
[03:11] <yvyz> But thanks for the input tomreyn
[03:12] <tomreyn> yvyz: *this* channel is only for ubuntu support Q&A, not for sharing experiences or opinions. there are other channels.
[03:12] <yvyz> I see you are the Zues of these lands.
[03:13] <yvyz> Hey guys, anybody ever have problems installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 18.04?
[03:13] <tomreyn> nor for polls
[03:13] <guiverc> yvyz, this is not a chat or poll channel, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting/polling..
[03:14] <yvyz> Well, it's interesting see: I keep getting package manager issues about dependencies when I try to install nvidia proprietary via software and drivers. Is there any relevant fix for this?
[03:15] <yvyz> Is this something that is intended to be fixed upstream with debian? Or is Ubuntu-dev working on a fix? It seems pretty common.
[03:15] <tomreyn> !details
[03:16] <Bashing-om> yvyz: I too have no issues with nvidia drivers in 18.04. What is broke in your system ?
[03:17] <yvyz> Well you see I have an 18.04 installation with an Nvidia 1050 Ti on board. When I run ubuntu-drivers autoinstall it seems to hang on "nvidia-309 depends on nvidia-309:i386" but if I try to install nvidia-309:i386 it says that it depends on nvidia-309. So i get a dependency loop and this breaks apt.
[03:17] <yvyz> I should say I am running two video cards. One Quadro 2000 (nvidia-304) and a 1050 Ti (nvidia-309)
[03:18] <yvyz> I first attempted to use the software and drivers app to switch to proprietary drivers but they would never green light, and would immediately re-highlight the neauveu driver.
[03:19] <yvyz> But then I attempted to switch the 1050 Ti one at a time, and got it into install. When I rebooted I was met with the right light warning that my package manager wsa broken.
[03:19] <yvyz> So I eventually had to go back into terminal and attempt to remove the nvidia software via apt. Which failed because of the aformention dependency loop.
[03:20] <yvyz> Somehow I got things cleared up after using LC_MESSAGE=C and dpkg to remove all of the packages.
[03:20] <yvyz> So my 1050 Ti is working, after hand install the nvidia drivers via apt after a apt upgrade. But I cannot get my Quaddro 2000 to use the nvidia-304 drivers for the life of me.
[03:21] <lunatikos> hi ! i got problem with steam steamplay / proton... when i click PLAY on my games it shows "launching game...." then the window close directly and it does not lau,ch/open the game. any idea how i can fix the issue ? seems like something is missing.. got ubuntu 18.10 + nvidia-415 (ppa)
[03:21] <yvyz> Which doesnt seem quite right. I cannot get the 304 drivers to take after reboot whether i install via command line or set the drivers via package and drivers
[03:21] <yvyz> Any idea what could be happening?
[03:22] <tomreyn> yvyz: i suggest you report a bug if ubuntu-drivers doesn't work as expected (search for existing bug reports first).
[03:23] <tomreyn> also consider installing a 64-bit variant of ubuntu
[03:24] <yvyz> Linux workstation 4.18.0-15-generic #16~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 7 14:06:04 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:24] <tomreyn> ah so it's just the packages then, maybe there are no 64-bit packages for those drivers.
[03:25] <tomreyn> !steam | lunatikos
[03:26] <lunatikos> ok thx
[03:27] <lunatikos> it needs subscribe :(
[03:27] <yvyz> ubuntu-drivers devices
[03:27] <tomreyn> !info nvidia-309 bionic
[03:28] <philip_> GoogEveny
[03:28] <tomreyn> yvyz: this package does not seem to exist in ubuntu 18.04
[03:28] <yvyz> !info libnvidia-gl-390
[03:29] <yvyz> Apologies for the misname
[03:30] <yvyz> So I ran: LC_MESSAGES=C dpkg-divert --list '*nvidia-340*' | sed -nre 's/^diversion of (.*) to .*/\1/p' | xargs -rd'\n' -n1 -- sudo dpkg-divert --remove
[03:30] <yvyz> I should say I am workong on the quaddroo 2000 which is nividia 340
[03:30] <yvyz> After running the above command I was able to autoremove and then upgrade.
[03:31] <yvyz> Which fixed apt
[03:31] <yvyz> But now I am unable to install the 340 drivers and have them take.
[03:32] <tomreyn> yvyz: your initial report was about "When I run ubuntu-drivers autoinstall it seems to hang on "nvidia-309 depends on nvidia-309:i386" but if I try to install nvidia-309:i386 it says that it depends on nvidia-309. So i get a dependency loop and this breaks apt."
[03:32] <tomreyn> now you're discussing different packages
[03:32] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-drivers-340 bionic
[03:32] <yvyz> tomreyn: i said that i got 390 to work.
[03:32] <yvyz> And that I am battling with 304 drivers
[03:32] <yvyz> 21:21:40            yvyz | Which doesnt seem quite right. I cannot get the 304 drivers to take after reboot whether i install via command line or set the drivers via package and drivers
[03:33] <yvyz> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YzkRZDcMdV/ <- ubuntu-drivers devices
[03:33] <yvyz> !info nvidia-340
[03:33] <tonyt> you can always download what ever nvidia driver from nvidia and manually install it yourself.
[03:34] <yvyz> I done just that. Which is what software and drivers does.
[03:34] <yvyz> But I cannot get them to take
[03:35] <tomreyn> yvyz: yes, you said so. i'm still trying to help you report a but about the issues you faced while doing so, or finding out whether there are such bug reports, with a possibly better workaround than those you applied.
[03:35] <yvyz> Yes, I am using 3 screens. All three screens work right. Two (HDMI and DP) on the 1050 and one (VGA) on the 2000
[03:35] <Bashing-om> yvyz: version 304 is end of life - 2017:http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases.
[03:35] <yvyz> tomreyn: very possible.  But I should still be able to load them ya?
[03:36] <yvyz> Or maybe the latest kernels break them completely?
[03:36] <yvyz> Which I guess would make sense
[03:36]  * tomreyn bbl
[03:49] <royal_screwup21> instead of hostname, I want to harcode another name:     PS1="${bold_blue}[$(hostname)${normal} \w${normal} ${bold_white}[$(git_prompt_info)]${normal}» " how do I do that?
[03:49] <mouses> silly question - just want to get this right.  I have a user on my server that needs a script located in their home directory to start on boot, and run/work as that user of course (not root) so they can manage / kill it after boot if they want - server is on 18.04 -> what's my method to get this working?
[03:50] <xamithan> make a .service file for it?
[03:50] <yvyz> ^
[03:52] <yvyz> In the exec command field just "setuid $userid$"
[03:52] <yvyz> Then they will have full control over it and it will run on boot.
[03:53] <yvyz> https://askubuntu.com/questions/676007/how-do-i-make-my-systemd-service-run-via-specific-user-and-start-on-boot
[03:54] <yvyz> And I guess its a little out of standard but you can point the service to Exec /home/username/file
[04:02] <JFox762> hi
[04:02] <JFox762> I need help with my backups
[04:02] <JFox762> https://pastebin.com/KhkVGyLz
[04:03] <calher> JFox762: What do you need help with?
[04:03] <calher> Looking.
[04:07] <JFox762> calher: thanks
[04:15] <qwebirc27864> evening all  just wondering if  anyone else is having issues  with ubuntu  repos ?   getting can not connect to  network  but  i am  on here chatting with you guys on the same computer  that is having the issue
[04:17] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: what does: env | grep -i proxy
[04:17] <yvyz> say?
[04:17] <calher> JFox762: Hm, encryption stuff.  Don't know.
[04:18] <qwebirc27864> if your asking me   zero output  nothing  just went back  to  prompt
[04:19] <yvyz> Ok
[04:20] <qwebirc27864> yvyz:  should it have  responded?
[04:20] <JFox762> calher: darn :( thanks though
[04:21] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: Sometimes there are proxy settings (http_proxy and https_proxy) that would prevent apt from reaching source urls.
[04:22] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: run: sudo apt-get install *YOURPACKAGE* | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:22] <yvyz> and paste the link it produces
[04:22] <qwebirc27864> fresh install  :: for security repo 503  Service Unavailable [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] :: for InRelease  503  Service Unavailable [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[04:23] <qwebirc27864> https://termbin.com/0smd
[04:24] <yvyz> Ugh, termbin breaks with multiline apt responses. Ok
[04:24] <yvyz> Can you ping those ip's?
[04:25] <qwebirc27864> i  get a  apache2  test page  for one  and  ubuntu security notices for the other
[04:25] <tomreyn> calher: a web search brings up https://answers.launchpad.net/duplicity/+question/218882 where further steps are suggested
[04:25] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: are you behind a school or work network?
[04:25] <qwebirc27864> nope home
[04:25] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: I mean the command: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:26] <yvyz> If so, your sources.list might be pointing to dead repositories.
[04:27] <qwebirc27864>  22 packets transmitted, 21 received, 4% packet loss,
[04:27] <qwebirc27864> ctrl c  caused the 4%
[04:28] <yvyz> When you run apt-get update, do some of the repos work and some others do not?
[04:28] <qwebirc27864> they  all connect
[04:28] <qwebirc27864> correct
[04:28] <yvyz> What is the command you are running that gives you the errors?
[04:29] <qwebirc27864>  ok  timing  was bad  there ping  the  ips  resolve to  a connection
[04:29] <yvyz> Sweet
[04:29] <JFox762> anyone else know ?
[04:29] <JFox762> about how to fix this backup error?
[04:29] <JFox762> https://pastebin.com/KhkVGyLz
[04:30] <tomreyn> JFox762: a web search brings up https://answers.launchpad.net/duplicity/+question/218882 where further steps are suggested
[04:30] <qwebirc27864>  but  running  apt update  causes failures  apt-get and  synaptic aswell
[04:30] <tomreyn> and sorry calher, this wasnt for you
[04:31] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: can you paste the entire output of sudo apt-get update to -> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[04:31] <JFox762> how do i run that program with maximum verbosity?
[04:32] <qwebirc27864> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/tDGyrB4g6X/
[04:32] <yvyz> JFox762: duplicity -v9
[04:33] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: ping security.ubuntu.com
[04:35] <yvyz> I am just making sure things are resolving first before we do other stuff.
[04:35] <qwebirc27864> brb gotta help my kid    https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/VBrMJZWcdy/
[04:35] <qwebirc27864> and thank you
[04:38] <qwebirc27864>  back  sorry  monsters under the bed
[04:39] <cim209> qwebirc27864: lol
[04:39] <JFox762> yvyz: how do i run that when using the gui backup?
[04:41] <SudoBash> when doing updates through aptitude, apt, apt-get install, etc... why not wait until everything is done before generating kernel and init images instead of doing it after every time it installs something that requires a kernel change? for instance accumulate all the changes the need to be done to the kernel and init images and apply all at the same
[04:41] <SudoBash>  time at the end of updates instead of throughout the entire process multiple times.................?????
[04:44] <yvyz> JFox762: duplicity verify -v9 /path/to/backup/location /foldertobebackedup
[04:44] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: 503 errors are generally due to proxy configurations on a host or network.
[04:44] <qwebirc27864> SudoBash: most likely  so  if one fails  you know  which one it is  with a miniamal  amout  of back tracking
[04:46] <SudoBash> Ahhh that can be taken care of with proper coding...
[04:46] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: env | grep proxy :: does this show nothing
[04:48] <qwebirc27864> yvyz: glitch@glitch-bad-wolf:~$ env | grep -i proxy  glitch@glitch-bad-wolf:~$
[04:48] <SudoBash> when you finally apply the kernel / init images just log to stdout and stderr properly and shouldn't have a problem with iterating through an array of kernel / init changes
[04:49] <qwebirc27864> yvyz:  just goes straight back ot the prompt
[04:49] <tomreyn> SudoBash: please note this channel is really just for support Q&A. you could join #ubuntu-discuss to discuss ubuntu, or #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[04:50] <SudoBash> oh lord the nazi's are still here
[04:50] <qwebirc27864> yvyz: think  an install  from a failing usb key  could cause this issue
[04:50] <tomreyn> i dno not appreciate this insult.
[04:50] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: Open "Software and Updates" and select a different server in the "Download From: " drop down menu
[04:51] <SudoBash> Hey, you're the ones ruining Linux so whatever..........
[04:51] <yvyz> ^
[04:51] <yvyz> lol
[04:51] <yvyz> wow
[04:51] <SudoBash> <- 16 programming languages
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> SudoBash: stop that please
[04:52] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: its possible, but highly improbable that your install is corrupted in just the right away to not allow apt to connect
[04:52] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: you may try another sources server download location in Software & Updates. And if that does not work, look for a "proxy" file within /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[04:53] <SudoBash> I mean I have to install a clone of Gnome 2 just to have a workable desktop now days....
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !ot | SudoBash
[04:53] <tomreyn> yvyz: it could be qwebirc27864's ISP, too. this happened occasionally lately.
[04:54] <yvyz> SudoBash: You may want to take kernel update method issues up with Linus directly. Not here.
[04:54] <SudoBash> You had that in your queue ready didn't you?
[04:54] <yvyz> tomreyn: I was thinking that, but he is able to reach all servers giving issues within apt through ping ip and ping name.name
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> SudoBash: if you dont have an ubuntu question, please dont use this channel we have other channels for chitchat
[04:55] <qwebirc27864> yvyz: no suitable download server was found....
[04:55] <SudoBash> lotuspsychje: some people just come here to push your nazi buttons.....
[04:55] <Deihmos> is there a way to get a list of all installed packages with size ?
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !ops | SudoBash seems not understand offtopic
[04:55] <Deihmos> sudo apt list --installed that gives me a list but i would like to know the size
[04:55] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: Select "Other..." and select a different service location in the dialogue box.
[04:56] <tomreyn> yvyz: icmp traffdic may be handled differently than tcp / http. and even if not so, who says those (theoretical, so far) ISP proxies don't just respond to ping as wlel?
[04:56] <SudoBash> LoL what a nazi prat
[04:56] <yvyz> Deihmos: sudo apt list --installed
[04:57] <yvyz> tomreyn: highly plausible. but what ISP would trash their own network like that?
[04:57] <philip_> how to install center of ubuntu?
[04:57] <tomreyn> yvyz: several
[04:57] <yvyz> !ops | SudoBash is causing serious issues
[04:57] <tomreyn> yvyz: i've suggested httpS mirrors in past situations, which worked around it.
[04:57] <yvyz> tomreyn: That makes me sad lol.
[04:58] <tomreyn> as well as changing isp
[04:58] <yvyz> that is actually a good idea. well both of them.
[04:58] <tomreyn> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tomreyn/scripts/master/ubuntu_archivemirrors_https
[04:59] <tomreyn> pretty terrible, and doesn't sort by country, but at least you get a list
[04:59] <yvyz> tomreyn better than nothing. bravo on the seds and awks
[04:59] <yvyz> or rather just sed's
[04:59] <tomreyn> :)
[05:00] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: out of curiosity what is your ISP?
[05:00] <qwebirc27864> comcast
[05:00] <JFox762_> hi
[05:00] <JFox762_> So when I typed that command
[05:00] <qwebirc27864> yvyz: comcast
[05:01] <JFox762_> https://pastebin.com/PdhZFyPE
[05:02] <yvyz> JFox762: apologies - duplicity verify -v9 file:///path/to/backup/file
[05:03] <royal_screwup21> how long did it take to upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04? It's taking me more more than 2 hours at ~ 100 mbps
[05:03] <yvyz> JFox762_: or some variance of file:// /// or / ( i forget someimtes)
[05:03] <yvyz> royal_screwup21: did you do-release-upgrade ?
[05:04] <yvyz> or dist-upgrade?
[05:04] <royal_screwup21> yeah I definitiely did one of those
[05:04] <royal_screwup21> I think it was the latter
[05:07] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: Following up on tomreyn's suggestion, you could: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:07] <yvyz> And put https:// in front of the security.ubuntu and see if it fixes the 503 for that one. And you will know what toi do for the rest
[05:08] <royal_screwup21> if I ctrl + c and start all over again, will it resume where it left off, or will it start a fresh install?
[05:08] <yvyz> royal_screwup21: Well the upgrade process can take up to 2 hours. Depending on a number of factors
[05:08] <yvyz> I would NOT ctrl+c in the middle of a dist-upgrade
[05:08] <tomreyn> qwebirc27864: i just tested those failing HTTP requests of yours through two separate comcast clients' proxy servers but didn't get any errors. so it could be that the issue is actually somewhere closer to your computers rather than affecting all of their customers.
[05:09] <tomreyn> qwebirc27864: this is just a note, please follow up with what yvyz just suggested.
[05:09] <yvyz> BUt if you do, you could attempt to to do this via sudo update-manager so you get a continual review of the status
[05:09] <qwebirc27864> no  dice
[05:10] <JFox762_> yvyz: it says " CollectionsError: No backup chains found"
[05:10] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: curl http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:10] <qwebirc27864> tomreyn: thank you  for checking  and i was  waiting  for  responce  from  the computer
[05:11] <royal_screwup21> if I lock my screen with ctrl + alt + l, will that halt the upgrade (or worse, kill) the upgrade?
[05:11] <qwebirc27864> yvyz: curl  not  found
[05:11] <yvyz> JFox762_: the file:// path must be an absolute path.
[05:11] <JFox762_> ....
[05:12] <JFox762_> absolute path?
[05:12] <qwebirc27864> im  going to  go  get a new  usb  and  try  reinstalling
[05:13] <tomreyn> qwebirc27864: wget -O- http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/           is an alternative
[05:13] <JFox762_> can you elaborate yvyz ?
[05:13] <yvyz> JFox762_: you defined an incorrect path
[05:13] <JFox762_> in the Backup directory? or the Directory to be backed up?
[05:14] <yvyz> It needs to be /path/to/file/thefile
[05:14] <yvyz> For file:///
[05:14] <royal_screwup21> actually, I just scrolled up: I did a do-release-upgrade
[05:14] <qwebirc27864> yvyz: tomreyn: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/XZjVwC6BFW/    still no dice
[05:15] <yvyz> Is the same error with https:// ?
[05:15] <tomreyn> security.ubuntu.com is not available via https
[05:15] <yvyz> qwebirc27864: Do you have a firewall at your house, or just a  normal modem -> router -> machine setup?
[05:16] <yvyz> ahh
[05:16] <JFox762_> yvyz: does it need to be a .gpg file?
[05:16] <tomreyn> qwebirc27864: a "virus scanner" may also be getting in the way there
[05:16] <JFox762_> like an individual one?
[05:16] <JFox762_> I'm confused
[05:16] <yvyz> He did say its a clean fresh install
[05:16] <qwebirc27864>  regular set up
[05:16] <JFox762_> duplicity verify -v9 file://media/jack/USB128/Backup/Backup1 /home/jack/
[05:16] <JFox762_> is the command i used
[05:17] <JFox762_> duplicity verify -v9 file://media/jack/USB128/Backup/ /home/jack/
[05:17] <JFox762_> i also used that one
[05:17] <JFox762_> my duplicity files (the .gpg files) are in the Backup folder
[05:17] <qwebirc27864> im  going to  get out of your hair tonight  im  going to  go  for the nuclear option in the moring  and  buy a new usb stick
[05:17] <JFox762_> on my 128gb USB
[05:17] <yvyz> JFox762_: ls -al /media/jack/USB128/Backup | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:17] <qwebirc27864> and try again
[05:18] <qwebirc27864> thank you  for trying  and  best of luck
[05:18] <JFox762_> https://pastebin.com/G8KdYePi
[05:18] <JFox762_> there you go
[05:18] <JFox762_> thats the output
[05:19] <tomreyn> qwebirc27864: come back tomorrow if you run into the same issues, and sum things up again shortly here.
[05:19] <royal_screwup21> It's at "Unpacking linux-headers-4.15.0-45 (4.15.0-45.48) ..." -- any idea how much longer this upgrade is going to take?
[05:19] <tomreyn> qwebirc27864: good luck!
[05:20] <qwebirc27864> ill at least come back  to let you know  what  has happened
[05:20] <JFox762_> https://termbin.com/6llk
[05:20] <JFox762_> oops
[05:21] <yvyz> JFox762_: does: duplicity list-current-files file:///path/to/backup/folder
[05:21] <yvyz> list files?
[05:21] <tomreyn> qwebirc27864: i think this can be worked around should you run into the same issues again then. but it'd take some more time.
[05:21] <JFox762_> oh wait
[05:21] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: how long have you been waiting?
[05:22] <royal_screwup21> tomreyn: at least 2.5 hours
[05:22] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: oh, did your disk run full then?
[05:22] <JFox762_> I have two backup folders
[05:22] <JFox762_> Backup and Backup2
[05:22] <JFox762_> i tried the command with both, and still get the same result
[05:22] <royal_screwup21> tomreyn: I don't think so, but is there a quick terminal command to check?
[05:23] <yvyz> royal_screwup21: df -h
[05:23] <tomreyn> inteus: hi there, got a minute? we just had a comcast user here who was unable to access this: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/   - could you test whether you get to see a directory listing there?
[05:23] <royal_screwup21> nope
[05:24] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: df -h /
[05:24] <JFox762_> yvyz:
[05:24] <royal_screwup21> tomreyn: nah I have lots of space
[05:25] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: i'd say backup your files and do a fresh install.
[05:25] <royal_screwup21> tomreyn: the thing is, it isn't stuck...it's just taking a long time...
[05:26] <inteus> tomreyn: yes, a directory listing loads
[05:26] <tomreyn> inteus: thanks!
[05:26] <royal_screwup21> looking at the logs I see stuff is definitely happening, but I'm curious if its expected to take as long
[05:27] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: if it's unpacking linux-headers-4.15.0-45 for at least 2.5 hours then something is really wrong with your system. either the OS, which was unpatched for half a year, or the hardware.
[05:28] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: also the entire upgrade should not take this long, unless you have a really slow download.
[05:28] <royal_screwup21> it was unpacking those header a while back, now it's unpacking task warrior...
[05:30] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: if you run "dmesg -w" on another terminal, does it keep adding new lines of output there?
[05:30] <tomreyn> (you can canel this with ctrl-c)
[05:30] <tomreyn> *cancel
[05:30] <pi0> how do i connect ubuntu to my pi
[05:30] <pi0> i am in settings bluetooth
[05:30] <pi0> and says not setup
[05:30] <darkpix> im trying to create a mount in /mnt/feral using sshfs. It works fine when i run just the command to mount  but when i create a mnt-feral.mount it fails
[05:31] <JFox762_> yvyz: i created a new folder
[05:31] <royal_screwup21> tomreyn: nope, it didn't add any lines in the last ~ 30 seconds
[05:31] <pi0> i get the little circle for a little bit
[05:31] <royal_screwup21> still no lines
[05:31] <darkpix> here is what im getting and the config im using https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y8dm2KBxTK/
[05:33] <JFox762_> seems to be backing up right now as I speak
[05:33] <royal_screwup21> tomreyn: still no lines :( although the upgrade is showing new logs every few seconds....
[05:33] <JFox762_> I deleted the old backup folder
[05:33] <JFox762_> and the old backup files (which is fine by me)
[05:33] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: if you like, you can post the full log online and i'll take a quick look:  dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:35] <royal_screwup21> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/yabi9
[05:40] <royal_screwup21> tomreyn: is the expectation that the there should be new lines outputted through dmesg? It's the same as it was before, nothing's changed :(
[05:42] <royal_screwup21> now it's setting up a bunch of stuff
[05:42] <yvyz> I would say let it ride
[05:42] <yvyz> lol
[05:43] <royal_screwup21> this nc termbin.com 9999 thing is pretty cool
[05:43] <yvyz> It makes things a LOT easier
[05:44] <cim209> yvyz: indeed
[05:45] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: no, i don't expect new output on the dmesg command. you can cancel it
[05:45] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: the log you posted does not show any major issues.
[05:46] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: but the upgrade is taking way too long. it may be advisable to reset the SSD and reinstall
[05:47] <philip_> Goodnight
[05:48] <darkpix> can anyone help?
[05:48] <tomreyn> !details | darkpix
[05:49] <tomreyn> darkpix: oh you asked before, sorry
[05:49] <darkpix> yeah. and im on 18.04
[05:49] <tomreyn> darkpix: have you considered using real network shares?
[05:50] <darkpix> i have limited methods of connecting to the other box since i have no root access
[05:50] <darkpix> on the other box
[05:51] <tomreyn> darkpix: and whoever has root access there wouldn't set up an NFS or samba server there?
[05:51] <royal_screwup21> now it's "removing obsolete obsolte connfile etc/xdg/QtProject/qtlogging.in"...this is taking exceptionally long
[05:52] <darkpix> no, it is a Feralhosting box
[05:52] <tomreyn> i don't know what a "Feralhosting box" is
[05:53] <darkpix> tomreyn it a slot i rent shared server with others.
[05:54] <darkpix> so the short answer is no i dont have root
[05:55] <tomreyn> darkpix: well, my point is: sshfs is a crude hack. you should not use it for anything serious.
[05:56] <darkpix> i tried nfs and they dont have it enabled. so sshfs was the best option i could find. all i need it for is to pull logs of it and dump a single text file on it from time to time
[05:56] <SeanConnely> the terminal interface protocol through another person sand with the other main person can instead be the through gate through the other terminal
[05:56] <darkpix> so no big file transferes or anthing
[05:56] <royal_screwup21> should I ctrl + c? It's been ~3 minutes and it's still "Removing obsolete conffile /etc/xdg/QtProject/qtlogging.ini ..."
[05:57] <SeanConnely> no it is done through terminal switch through another being of another person through terminal
[05:58] <tomreyn> darkpix: oh okay, then it sounds like this could work ok, yes. i'm afraid i don't know how to debug the failing mount, though. sorry
[05:58] <oosehedaiphequag> how deeply do you examine source code before compiling?
[05:58] <SeanConnely> the other person can read the line through another eye in the terminal person of the other link
[05:59] <royal_screwup21> when I do lsb_release -a it says I'm on ubuntu 18.04
[05:59] <pi0> in ubuntu how can i sync to my pi
[05:59] <tomreyn> darkpix: i guess i'd read up on the mount.sshfs (or whatever it is called) man page and increase log verbosity, and search the web for those outputs you get.
[05:59] <pi0> i see it in my bluetooth scan
[05:59] <pi0> but it does not connect
[05:59] <pi0> i used this scipt https://github.com/DrRowland/RPi-Bluetooth-Console/blob/master/setup.sh
[05:59] <yvyz> pi0: please be more specific
[06:00] <SeanConnely> the output stream of the other stream can be a link between to people
[06:00] <darkpix> tomryn . ok...im wondering if it because when using it by just typing the command i do get prompt to enter the password and accept using passkey the first  but in systemctl you cant get prompt ...i have looked up and added debug to the command
[06:00] <SeanConnely> the output data can be switched in another person link through the ink
[06:01] <pi0> yvyz: yes
[06:01] <tomreyn> darkpix: wait, are you saying you need to authenticate by entering your password, haven't configured ssh keys?
[06:01] <SeanConnely> the hack code is the terminal of the other person through insight blare
[06:01] <pi0> i configured my pi to enable bt
[06:02] <pi0> i scanned all devices on my ubuntu laptop
[06:02] <yvyz> This is some interesting use of sshfs
[06:02] <pi0> i clicked to sync but it did not
[06:02] <pi0> yes the goal is ssh
[06:02] <yvyz> pi0: you need to make the BT device available for pairing.
[06:02] <tomreyn> darkpix: if this is so then yes, automating the mount wont work, as you just concluded correctly.
[06:02] <yvyz> darkpix: what was your intention again?
[06:03] <SeanConnely> the ssh is the other through the other through through another place in where they get through another
[06:03] <darkpix> tomreyn no..no...i setup the private key. but you know how the first time you login with ssh and private key you get a prompt
[06:03] <yvyz> ^ yes
[06:03] <tomreyn> !who | SeanConnely
[06:03] <SeanConnely> the ssh is the gateway through another be in the place it can resolve
[06:03] <tomreyn> SeanConnely: are you a bot?
[06:03] <SeanConnely> noo i am not
[06:03] <yvyz> Its called a tunnel, or ssh tunnel.
[06:04] <tomreyn> SeanConnely: are you helping someone, or trying to get help?
[06:04] <darkpix> yvyz need to mount a remote server so i can pull logs, on remote server i have no root access and there is no nfs
[06:04] <yvyz> sshfs would be great for this as long as you have ssh access
[06:04] <darkpix> yes i do
[06:04] <yvyz> but I am wondering what your exact issue is, can you not mount?
[06:05] <darkpix> if i run the command in terminal, it works...but not when i run it via systemctl
[06:05] <yvyz> darkpix: just like with ssh, you would benefit from configuring a .ssh/connectionConfigFile for the particular server you want
[06:06] <tomreyn> yvyz: here's what darkpix posted earlier: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y8dm2KBxTK/
[06:06] <yvyz> darkpix: you can set the public key, ip, and user execution rules
[06:06] <royal_screwup21> ok, I'm going to ctrl + c :(
[06:06] <yvyz> systemctl is not run as user
[06:07] <yvyz> and will not, unless specified in the service definition, run the service as your user
[06:07] <pi0> hmm
[06:07] <pi0> what can i do with this script
[06:07] <yvyz> so it is probably not finding your /home/user/.ssh/ folder, and thus not using the correct key
[06:07] <pi0> https://github.com/DrRowland/RPi-Bluetooth-Console/blob/master/setup.sh
[06:09] <pi0> i dont know what to do
[06:09] <darkpix> yvyz so your saying i should remove the uid and gid from mnt-feral.mount?
[06:09] <royal_screwup21> lol first bug with 18.04
[06:09] <yvyz> darkpix: in your users .ssh folder /home/username/.ssh, create a host entry for your remote host
[06:10] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: if you cancelled the upgrade, you are not running ubuntu 18.04
[06:10] <yvyz> And then you can set your service to sshfs hostname mountpoint
[06:10] <royal_screwup21> tomreyn: I pressed enter and it brought me back to promprt
[06:11] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: what did the line before that say?
[06:11] <yvyz> darkpix: And verify that your .mount service is set to setuid/setguid yourusername
[06:12] <darkpix> yvyz do you mind modifying my paste of the .mount so i can see what you mean?
[06:12] <yvyz> If you are using systemd service defintions, you will set User= and Group=
[06:13] <pi0> yvyz: shoot i dont even know what to do about this
[06:13] <royal_screwup21> tomaw: before "removing obsolete..."? "Setting up libqt5core5a:amd64 (5.9.5+dfsg-0ubuntu1) ..."
[06:13] <yvyz> pi0: have you ever paired two bluetooth devices before?
[06:14] <pi0> not yet
[06:14] <yvyz> darkpix: Let me take a look, but you could do this with an easier config
[06:14] <darkpix> yvyz initially i was following this example https://www.buggycoder.com/mount-remote-fs-sshfs-systemd/
[06:15] <yvyz> darkpix: uname -a
[06:17] <darkpix> ?
[06:21] <yvyz> actually, what user do you want to run this under?>
[06:21] <yvyz> Does /data/.ssh/feral exist?
[06:21] <yvyz> Or is it in /home/username/.ssh/feral ?
[06:22] <darkpix> it does exist
[06:23] <yvyz> chmod 600 /data/.ssh/feral
[06:23] <yvyz> and try it
[06:24] <darkpix> if i run this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hPfHhb6BTC/ it works...let me give that a try
[06:24] <yvyz> I just wonder if its either a key permission issue or you are not getting the prompt for first key use for some reason
[06:25] <darkpix> it was already set to 600
[06:25] <darkpix> and in known_host i already have the entry from the first key use
[06:25] <yvyz> ls -al /data/.ssh/ -- who owns feral
[06:26] <darkpix> -rw-------  1 plex plex 1675 Feb 21 00:35 feral
[06:27] <yvyz> (rclone is far easier solution ;))
[06:27] <darkpix> plex:x:1000:1000::/home/plex:/bin/bash
[06:27] <yvyz> ok
[06:28] <yvyz> You might want to add User=plex and Group=plex to your systemd .mount file
[06:28] <yvyz> So the service executes as the user
[06:29] <yvyz> So in [Service/Mount] add User=plex and Group=plex
[06:29] <darkpix> ok..let me try
[06:30] <pi0> yvyz: how do i see why a bt did not sync
[06:30] <pi0> were are the logs
[06:31] <yvyz> pi0: /var/log$ grep blue syslog.1|more
[06:31] <yvyz> pi0: tail -f /var/log/syslog and attempt to pair and see what it says
[06:33] <darkpix> yvyz no dice https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T6CMKVZqnD/
[06:33] <yvyz> darkpix: if that doesnt work...
[06:34] <yvyz> ok well
[06:34] <yvyz> Lets put it this way, lets just define the service for you rlocal PC to run as root
[06:35] <yvyz> And remove the uid and gid flags from the fstab entry you made
[06:35] <royal_screwup21> Hi all. So I tried to update my 17.10 to 18.04...and things have gone horribly horribly wrong. I managed to get the do-release upgrade done, but now I can't seem to login. When I click on my username and enter passwords, it takes prompts me to login yet again. The password is alright; it's literally just cycling back, not giving me access.
[06:35] <royal_screwup21> password*
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> royal_screwup21: 17.10 is end of life
[06:36] <royal_screwup21> I know
[06:36] <royal_screwup21> that's why I tried to upgrade
[06:36] <mlalkaka> In the Ubuntu/Gnome settings, there's a Display Scale option. How do I get or set that value from the command line? None of the tools I've tried (gsettings and xdpyinfo) seem to be used on the "backend" of that setting
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> royal_screwup21: upgrading from eol releases can get you in trouble, also security issues
[06:37] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: which desktop are you using?
[06:37] <royal_screwup21> I'm on a dell laptop
[06:37] <darkpix> yvyz i wanted to avoid editing the fstab directly by using systemd but if it isnt working i might have to go that route. right now i had it setup in a cronjob with the @reboot in front
[06:37] <royal_screwup21> lotuspsychje: I'm going to try and go into recovery mode. Is there anything I can do from there to gain access?
[06:38] <royal_screwup21> I'm looking at the recovery menu right now
[06:38] <yvyz> darkpix: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Rsqc5xKrGh/
[06:38] <royal_screwup21> there#s a few options- resume, cleanean, root, fsck, grub...
[06:38] <yvyz> darkpix: this will create a systemd entry for you
[06:39] <pi0> wow so much i did not understand
[06:39] <darkpix> ah gotcha...trying...
[06:39] <royal_screwup21> I'd love a pointer or two in the right direction :( I'm super screwed up this time
[06:40] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: one more time - which desktop are you using?
[06:40] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: not sure what you mean :) I've tried to install ubuntu 18.04 on on Linux. It's on a dell laptop
[06:41] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: is it the regular ubuntu desktop version?
[06:41] <royal_screwup21> yu[p I followed the instructions on here https://itsfoss.com/use-unity-ubuntu-17-10/
[06:41] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: *
[06:42] <royal_screwup21> err
[06:42] <royal_screwup21> sorry I'm on a different computer atm, it's not that link and I'm a bit flustered
[06:43] <royal_screwup21> it was this one https://itsfoss.com/upgrade-ubuntu-version/
[06:43] <ducasse> ok, let the machine boot fully, let me know when you're at the login screen
[06:43] <yvyz> royal_screwup21: if you did not lose any data, save yourself the headache and just install 18.04
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> +1
[06:43] <royal_screwup21> ducasse:  I'm looking at the recovery menu. I see option like resume, clean, root, systems memory, grub fsck
[06:44] <royal_screwup21> resume ->  resume normal boot, root -> drop to root shell prompt
[06:44] <yvyz> darkpix: update?
[06:45] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: resume
[06:45] <yvyz> pi0: Can you please explain the exact thing you are trying to do? WHat are the devices you want to pair?
[06:45] <darkpix> yvyz it seems to be running but nothing is showing up in mnt/feral just double checking...sec
[06:46] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: cool...thing is, I tried resume a while back and it takes me to the login screen, but there's nothing in the login screen. It just asks me for my password, which I enter, and then it prompts me for my password again...and again
[06:46] <pi0> how do i find out my bt mac address
[06:46] <pi0> yvyz: i would like to pair my pi with ubuntu
[06:47] <yvyz> pi0: what you ask does not make sense. You pair devices, not OS's and devices.
[06:47] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: at the login screen, press ctrl+alt+f2
[06:47] <pi0> can i pair my pi as a device
[06:48] <pi0> then ssh into it
[06:48] <yvyz> pi0: What are you trying to pair your pi to?
[06:48] <yvyz> pi0: Pairing your pi to another computer?
[06:48] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: alrighty, pressed resume, will keep you informed
[06:48] <darkpix> yvyz woot! its up! but will i be able to write to it since we removed the uid?
[06:48] <yvyz> darkpix: as long as you have permissions, yep!
[06:49] <yvyz> darkpix: and if its for what I think it is for, you should really check the sweet solution over at https://rclone.org/
[06:49] <darkpix> i already have rclone on the machine
[06:49] <darkpix> but its for logs
[06:50] <yvyz> Cool
[06:50] <darkpix> it so i can have access to the log files i use and add them to logarr
[06:50] <yvyz> Lemme know if you can write to the mount point
[06:50] <darkpix> going to try
[06:51] <yvyz> darkpix: cool. yea you can use it for tons of things. rclone is also great for securing your backups and creating rsync style diff triggered syncing
[06:51] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: pressing ctrl alt f2, but nothing's happening. f2 is also ,yeyboard shortcut to increase volume
[06:51] <royal_screwup21> also my keyboard*
[06:52] <darkpix> yvyz is it normal that it is slow to navigate?
[06:52] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: what about ctrl+alt+f3?
[06:52] <yvyz> darkpix: depends on your network connection to the remote host
[06:52] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: nope :(
[06:53] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: ctrl alt f4 did something; I see bash prompt against a black background
[06:53] <yvyz> ^ good
[06:53] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: ah, good. does it have a login prompt?
[06:53] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: yup I logged in
[06:53] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: and that went fine?
[06:53] <royal_screwup21> yup
[06:54] <royal_screwup21> fwiw, it says "welcome to ubuntu 18.04.02" right at the top
[06:56] <yvyz> darkpix: in your fstab entry, you could always try adding -o auto_cache: oauto_cache,reconnect,defer_permissions,noappledouble,nolocalcaches,no_readahead
[06:56] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: run this - 'rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc .mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*'
[06:57] <darkpix> ok..because it is locking up...i cant get to /mnt/feral now
[06:57] <darkpix> just hangs
[06:57] <yvyz> darkpix: and you could further set a more efficient encryption alg to like arcfour
[06:58] <yvyz> darkpix: so with the other above additions, you could add Ciphers=arcfour
[06:59] <yvyz> I believe my default it uses AES128-cbc
[06:59] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: done, I see a blinking _
[06:59] <royal_screwup21> ok I got a permission denied
[06:59] <pi0> yvyz: is it possible what i am trying to do
[06:59] <royal_screwup21> I guess I should do it with sudo?
[06:59] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: just wait until it finishes and gives you a prompt again
[06:59] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: rm: cannot remove .dbus: Permission denied
[06:59] <yvyz> pi0: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36889
[07:02] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: is there anything I should be googling? I'm not sure what the term is for this "login cycle"
[07:02] <darkpix> yvyz i must go sleep, i will check back in tomorrow
[07:02] <yvyz> royal_screwup21: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2268988
[07:02] <yvyz> darkpix: ok, gl.
[07:02] <darkpix> thanks for the help
[07:02] <pi0> thank you
[07:02] <yvyz> darkpix: np
[07:02] <yvyz> pi0: np
[07:02] <pi0> yvyz: does this seem possible too? https://medium.com/@andrewlr/raspberry-pi-zero-w-setup-ab16f89d8120
[07:03] <pi0> i noticed it right before you pasted the link
[07:03] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: not really. do you get a prompt yet?
[07:04] <yvyz> pi0: yes you could try that as well. You will want to think that your desktop machine is the master and your pi as the slave.
[07:04] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: yup I got a prompt
[07:04] <yvyz> pi0: so you are pairing the pi to your desktop, not the other way around
[07:04] <royal_screwup21> that rm command was denied because:  "m: cannot remove .dbus: Permission denied "
[07:04] <royal_screwup21> ducasse:
[07:04] <yvyz> royal_screwup21: sudo command
[07:05] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: run it again with sudo, should finish quickly
[07:05] <royal_screwup21> ok I sudo'd it, finishe quick
[07:06] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: now 'sudo systemctl restart gdm3'
[07:06] <pi0> yvyz: oh shoot
[07:06] <yvyz> ducasse: if that doesnt work, his gdm3 could have been corrupted and might need a reinstall/rebuild?
[07:07] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: done, it brough me to the login screen. Again some problem :( I entred password and it cycles back to login
[07:07] <pi0> almost feel that i should get a arduino module
[07:07] <pi0> to make it easier lol
[07:08] <yvyz> pi0: as long as they both have BlueTooth transcievers they should be able to connect. But anything more outside of general ubuntu configurations you might want to check with the rpi channels
[07:08] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: try the icon next to your username that lets you select desktop, what does it list?
[07:09] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: the icon is basically an empty square. Below that is "Not Listed?"
[07:09] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: ok, ctrl+alt+f4 to return to the console
[07:10] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: done
[07:10] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: run 'sudo apt --install-recommends --reinstall ubuntu-desktop'
[07:12] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: i'm getting: commandline line option --reinstall is not understood in combination  other options
[07:13] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: ok, remove --install-recommends
[07:14] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: --reinstall is not understood in combidation with other options
[07:15] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: did you mean something like this? sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[07:16] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: yes
[07:16] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: sorry :)
[07:17] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: no worries :) so I ran that, got dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run sudo dpk --configure -a
[07:17] <royal_screwup21> Ill run that and then the install
[07:18] <ducasse> yes, do that
[07:19] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: it looks like your upgrade might have been interrupted
[07:20] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: hmm maybe....it took more 2.5 hours though and now I'm seeing a lot of logs like "installing new version of config file in..."
[07:20] <royal_screwup21> I'll let it finish and keep you informed
[07:21] <ducasse> ok, i'll be here for a while yet
[07:23] <royal_screwup21> It's been on "updating database of manual pages" for the last 20 seconds....
[07:24] <Furai> Does anyone know here when 418 nvidia drivers will make it to the Graphics PPA?
[07:24] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: it needs to finish this, though, if you want to try and avoid a reinstall
[07:25] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: yup it's moved ahead and setting up other stuff...fingers crossed the resintall works
[07:26] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: so I got a prompt : a new version of the configuration file /etc/default/grub is available, but the version installed is currently modified
[07:26] <royal_screwup21> what do you want to do about the modified configuration file grub?
[07:26] <royal_screwup21> install the package maintainers version
[07:26] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: keep local version
[07:26] <royal_screwup21> keep the local version currently installed
[07:26] <royal_screwup21> ok
[07:27] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: hmm actually...just so you know I did modify that file sometime back in an attempt solve this
[07:27] <royal_screwup21> I pretty compy pasted from an SO thread
[07:28] <royal_screwup21> pretty much*
[07:29] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: should not be relevant to this, we might look at it later if necessary
[07:30] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: ah I remember why...it was cause the brightness key wasn't working on my keyboard (on ubunutu 17.04)
[07:30] <royal_screwup21> anyway, keeping the local version
[07:44] <royal_screwup21> hmmm so how does that dpkg configure command work? Does it resume where the process left off, or does it the process all over again?
[07:45] <royal_screwup21> because I'm pretty sure I'm seeing "setting up <foo>" twice -- now, and once before
[07:47] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: could have been just a similar package name
[07:47] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: ok, so that finished, and I ran the reinstall, and now it's rebooting I think
[07:48] <royal_screwup21> screen is blank, I think it turned off power
[07:49] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: I turned it on. Should I got to Ubuntu or advanced options for Ubuntu?
[07:49] <ducasse> just boot normally
[07:49] <ducasse> so ubuntu
[07:49] <royal_screwup21> cool okay#
[07:50] <ducasse> at the login screen, click the icon again
[07:52] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: yup, will do. For some reason it's gotten terribly slower, that ubuntu logo is still showing up...
[07:53] <ducasse> you might still be missing packages, we'll look into that
[07:53] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: previously I was able to get into ubuntu 17.04 by hitting adv options for ubunut -> recovery mode
[07:54] <ducasse> you couldn't get in otherwise?
[07:55] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: nope, I couldn't get in I hit ubuntu. It was super strange. I was normally always able to get into ubuntu 16.04 by simply hitting ubuntu, until I inadvertently upgraded to 17.04
[07:55] <royal_screwup21> if I*
[07:56] <royal_screwup21> when that inadvertent upgrade happened, I went to adv options -> recovery mode and things somehow worked
[07:56] <royal_screwup21> anyway, now it looks like it's frozen; that ubunut logo is still showing
[07:57] <royal_screwup21> ubuntu*
[07:57] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: i strongly suspect you really should backup your data and do a reinstall
[08:02] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: if you're still here, try booting like you did before, bu going through recovery mode
[08:02] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: ah yeah doing just that
[08:03] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: ok there  was no login, the screen opened up
[08:03] <royal_screwup21> home screen*
[08:04] <royal_screwup21> I see the "what#s new in ubuntu " crap
[08:04] <ducasse> open a terminal
[08:04] <royal_screwup21> yup
[08:05] <ducasse> 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade'
[08:05] <royal_screwup21> cool, it's running
[08:06] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: yup its done
[08:06] <ducasse> 'sudo apt install -f'
[08:06] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: done, all good
[08:07] <ducasse> ok, so it seems you're more or less up and running, but i wouldn't trust this install. i strongly suggest you consider a fresh install.
[08:08] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: yup I think that would be for the best....but anyway, thanks for helping me out here! :)
[08:09] <ducasse> np, hope you're ok now
[08:13] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: so I'm finding that I can't quite decrease the brightness of my screen using the keyboard keys. Do you by any chance what I should be looking into? I saw some threads where they modified the grub file, not too sure what the right call is
[08:13] <royal_screwup21> decrease or increase*
[08:15] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: is it controlled by fn+function key?
[08:15] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: so it was previously f10 for decreasing, f11 for increasing
[08:16] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: with fn key?
[08:16] <royal_screwup21> ducasse: nope, nothing doing with the fn key
[08:16] <ducasse> ok
[08:17] <yvyz> If you dont want to reinstall, and things seem to work OK, you can sudo apt-get -f install, and sudo apt-get update back and forth until you know your dependencies are not broken
[08:17] <ducasse> we've done that
[08:18] <yvyz> ok
[08:18] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: i don't know much about controlling screen brightness, other than there are several things it could be
[08:18] <ducasse> it could be an acpi problem
[08:19] <yvyz> is it a laptop?
[08:19] <royal_screwup21> yup
[08:19] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: you can try this - http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[08:19] <yvyz> edit /etc/default/grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[08:20] <yvyz> basically just add the acpi_backlight=vendor
[08:20] <yvyz> run upgrade-grub and reboot
[08:21] <yvyz> https://askubuntu.com/a/1038144 is the general fixes for this
[08:21] <tomreyn> you may also want this bios upgrade (you're on BIOS 1.2.0 10/25/2017 currently): https://www.dell.com/support/home/de/de/debsdt1/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=rh9h5&oscode=wt64a&productcode=inspiron-15-7577-laptop
[08:21] <royal_screwup21> cool will try that
[08:21] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: ^
[08:22] <tomreyn> and your system may have thermal issues. make sure it has enough space for air circulation to the sides.
[08:23] <ninaccino> Hello, I would like to ask if there is a possibility to add to my Ubuntu partition. I am running a Dual Boot Windows 10 with Ubuntu 18.04.
[08:24] <yvyz> ninaccino: You want to extend the size of your ubuntu partition?
[08:24] <ninaccino> Yes, exactly.
[08:24] <yvyz> ninaccino: Is your current hard disk completely full with partitions, or do you have free space?
[08:24] <Euph0ria> ninaccino: Boot from a liveCD/USB and run Gparted.
[08:25] <ninaccino> My current HD has free space
[08:25] <yvyz> Do what Euph0ria said
[08:25] <ninaccino> Alright, thank you !
[08:30] <royal_screwup21> I changed my grub file to this http://termbin.com/lq6a but it still doesn't work as it used to before (with f10 and f11 for decreasing and increasing brightness)
[08:30] <royal_screwup21> also ran update
[08:33] <yvyz> royal_screwup21: can you adjust brightness via the gui?
[08:34] <royal_screwup21> yvyz: there's no gui :( at least I don't see an option for brightness on the power settings
[08:36] <yvyz> Hmmm, if you dont even see it in poer options...
[08:38] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: try the bios update and the link i sent you
[08:46] <baako> hi guys. I have been having issues with my 18.10 install. just freezes when logged in.
[08:47] <baako> I have "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" "nvidia-driver-390 - distro non-free recommend"
[08:47] <royal_screwup21> this is ridiculous...
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> royal_screwup21: what is?
[08:50] <royal_screwup21> unable to increase/decrease brightness
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> royal_screwup21: did you update bios as adviced above?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> !biosupdate | royal_screwup21
[08:55] <absence> i get a notification that there's a new bios update for my laptop, but when i click the update button, nothing happens, and after a while i get the same notification again
[08:57] <absence> is there a way to run the bios update from the command line? it doesn't seem to come from apt-get
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> !info fwupdate | absence
[09:03] <absence> lotuspsychje: thanks, that lead me to fwupdmgr, which seems to be what ubuntu uses (fwupdate isn't installed)
[09:04] <tomreyn> absence: package fwupd
[09:05] <repunzel> Hi. I'm trying to share my desktop from a ubuntu desktop laptop to a windows 10 machine. All works well - except that in the Settings on the ubuntu side, under Sharing > Screen Sharing, only wireless connections are shown. I have a LAN which the ubuntu machine is connected to via ethernet, yet that connection does not appear. I have read others have had similar situations... Has this problem been resolved?
[09:13] <ramsub07> Hi, I am trying to connect my bluetooth earphones to my laptop with 16.04. Although it connects, it fails to detect my earphones as the sound output. What could be going wrong ?
[09:16] <royal_screwup21> FINALLY!!!!!!!
[09:17] <royal_screwup21> thank you folks <3
[09:17] <royal_screwup21> there's a slightly better chance I won't turn blind by the end of this month :)
[09:19] <repunzel> This is a pic of the screen I'm talking about: https://linuxconfig.org/images/02-ubuntu-remote-desktop-18.04-bionic-beaver.png
[09:19] <repunzel> note that on the pic ubuntu picked up the wired connection fine
[09:23] <royal_screwup21> aaaaaand now my mouse froze
[09:23] <royal_screwup21> beautiful
[09:25] <ramsub07> Hi, I am trying to connect my bluetooth earphones to my laptop with 16.04. Although it connects, it fails to detect my earphones as the sound output. What could be going wrong ?
[09:32] <nakamaki> ramsub07: did you install blueman?
[09:32] <ramsub07> nakamaki: yes
[09:32] <nakamaki> in blueman you can select audio profile -> hifi playback
[09:33] <nakamaki> u gotta select a2dp sink
[09:34] <ramsub07> nakamaki: where to see in blueman?
[09:34] <nakamaki> rightclick the headset
[09:34] <jeremyb> ramsub07: post URL for> pactl list short | grep blue | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:35] <ramsub07> jeremyb: https://termbin.com/nvv2
[09:35] <ledeni> ramsub07: did you install 'pavucontrol'
[09:36] <ramsub07> nakamaki: i still cannot see that option. it only "pair, trust, disconnect.."
[09:36] <ramsub07> ledeni: just installed, haven't had it before
[09:37] <jeremyb> ramsub07: URL for> dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm' | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:37] <ramsub07> jeremyb:
[09:37] <ramsub07> https://termbin.com/spwc
[09:42] <shibumi> Hey guys do you have any idea why Ubuntu is deleting created directories in /run/ just seconds after creation?
[09:42] <shibumi> I know that /run is a tmpfs
[09:42] <shibumi> But why get directories deleted just seconds after a mkdir?
[09:43] <jeremyb> ramsub07: You should file a bug report
[09:43] <ramsub07> jeremyb: i am trying to understand what is going wrong
[09:44] <ramsub07> i can't find a missing package, yet this happens
[09:44] <nakamaki> ramsub07: hci0: Hardware error 0x0a
[09:44] <jeremyb> ramsub07: It is more than just a bluetooth sound issue
[09:44] <nakamaki> is the device connected to another bluetooth device already?
[09:44] <ramsub07> jeremyb: where do i file this report?
[09:45] <jeremyb> ramsub07: start at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> ramsub07: to attach relevant logs maybe start from ubuntu-bug (from terminal)
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> !bug
[09:46] <ledeni> ramsub07: once you plugin headphones run 'pavucontrol' in terminal and check --output devices -- port
[09:47] <ramsub07> ledeni: mine is a bluetooth earphones
[09:49] <ledeni> ramsub07: ok once you plugin earphones
[09:49] <ramsub07> ledeni: how do i plugin? you mean after pairing?
[09:50] <ledeni> ramsub07: yes
[09:50] <omlet> Hello
[09:50] <omlet> I installed a 18.04 server with automatic lvm partition of 240gio disk
[09:51] <omlet> and now /dev/ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv is full
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> come join in #ubuntu-server omlet
[09:53] <ramsub07> ledeni: I can only see Built-in Audio Analog Stero and in that the port says Headphones(Unplugged)
[09:56] <ninaccino> ramsub07: Is your Bluetooth adapter running?
[09:56] <ramsub07> ninaccino: yes, i connected to my headphones from there
[09:58] <ninaccino> ramsub07: Your Bluetooth headphones were paired? Or did you get a signal that showed that the pairing went succesful from the Headphones side?
[10:00] <ramsub07> ninaccino: usually my earphones sends a voice message if pairing is successful. but it doesn't when i connect to my laptop, but from my laptop's bluetooth manager, i can see the earphones is paired with and have also added to trusted devices
[10:00] <blb4393> hi
[10:00] <ninaccino> ramsub07: It might be a very basic suggestion, but did you try to remove it as a trusted device, and re-pairing?
[10:01] <blb4393> can a deb be recreated out of an installed package? I mean not manually
[10:01] <ramsub07> ninaccino: yes, didn't work
[10:02] <ninaccino> ramsub07: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset Have you tried following these steps?
[10:02] <nakamaki> ramsub07: can you try unpairing it from all other machines as well?
[10:02] <nakamaki> i think it might be a problem on the headphones
[10:02] <nakamaki> like not enough open device slots
[10:03] <ninaccino> nakamaki: This could also be a thing. It's odd that it doesn't play the message when it paired, yet your laptop registered it.
[10:03] <ramsub07> nakamaki: it's not paired with other devices at the moment
[10:05] <ramsub07> nakamaki: i fail at point 12 in the link you have sent. i had tried that already
[10:07] <ninaccino> ramsub07: Do the earphones connect to any other device?
[10:07] <ramsub07> yes, my macbook, mobile, and TV almost instantly
[10:08] <nakamaki> ramsub07:  ninaccino sent the link :)
[10:10] <ramsub07> nakamaki: sorry. my autocomplete is bad haha
[10:11] <ninaccino> ramsub07: Okay, I see that multiple people have issues with Bluetooth 16.04, if you enter ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net; lsusb; hciconfig -a; dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm ' could you post the results in a bin?
[10:12] <tomreyn> blb4393: dpkg-repack. but obviously that's not the best approach. why do you need to?
[10:14] <ninaccino> nakamaki: And also; make sure that your laptop is discoverable as well. " bluetoothctl " => " scan on "
[10:14] <ninaccino> ramsub07: Woops; Not nakamaki, but you haha.
[10:14] <ramsub07> haha got it
[10:14] <ramsub07> it is discoverable i made sure that as well
[10:15] <ninaccino> And what do you see in the list if you want to select a default device for sound?
[10:15] <ninaccino> Because it might be listed as simply 'headphones' or something.
[10:15] <ramsub07> ninaccino:  http://dpaste.com/0ZHP6BF
[10:16] <blb4393> tomreyn: yes
[10:17] <tomreyn> blb4393: "yes" is not an ideal response to a "why" question.
[10:18] <ninaccino> Hahaha
[10:18] <ninaccino> ramsub07: I see a few hardware errors, and acl packets with unknown connection handles. Might be related to your issue?
[10:25] <DusteD> I just installed xmoto, and am greeted with "fatal exception : Unable to get xmDb version:" anyone had success with this game in recent times?
[10:25] <ninaccino> DusteD: 18? 16? What are you using.
[10:26] <DusteD> bionic, so that must be 18 iirc
[10:27] <ninaccino> DusteD: That is 18 yes, how did you attempt to install xmoto?
[10:28] <DusteD> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install xmoto
[10:29] <DusteD> I checked some forums about incompatible database versions in the xmoto config dir, some of those fixed it by removing the dir, I tried that, but didn't work
[10:31] <ninaccino> DusteD: Hmm, yes I see these solutions as well, however your error seems a bit different. It is unable to retrieve the xmDb version..
[10:32] <DusteD> exactly, I did ldd and see that it's linked to sqlite, but as per the above comamnd, I should be running "whatever is in the repository"
[10:32] <DusteD> I'm thinking that the call to litesql may be failing
[10:32] <DusteD> but that's slightly too technical for a "I just installed this via the package repository", where things are supposed to more or less work out of the box
[10:32] <ninaccino> DusteD: That might be the issue. If you completely purge xmoto and reinstall (basic I know) did or does that work?
[10:33] <ninaccino> Haha agreed
[10:33] <DusteD> going to try that, and wip the config dirs as well
[10:33] <ninaccino> Alright, keep me posted.
[10:34] <DusteD> nope, same deal, I'm wondering if someone else would repeat this experiment before I report this as a bug to the package maintainer
[10:44] <royal_screwup21> anyone know how to fix a frozen touchpad, ubuntu 18.04
[10:45] <royal_screwup21> everything is so f***ed up :(
[10:50] <SimonNL> any of you see a touchpad with a layer of ice on it ?
[10:53] <DusteD> i think I saw a touchpad with a layer of snot, tears and ice on it earlier, it didn't seem to work
[10:54] <sullvian> What is the difference between installing Ubuntu server 18.04 by installing the lubuntu desktop later or directly installing the lubuntu 18.04 distribution? Security issues? since I do not control the console very well and you need to open some app with wine ...
[10:56] <sullvian> that they advise me to do in case I need a server 24/7 and a desktop with the lowest consumption.
[10:58] <ducasse> sullvian: if you install from the server image you will get some server-related packages installed by default
[10:58] <ducasse> sullvian: you can get those by installing the ubuntu-server package
[11:01] <sullvian> then recommend me to install lubuntu for its low consumption and install the packages you need server ?, is that I need a desktop and have wine app running
[11:01] <sullvian> Do you think it would be a good option and safe?
[11:03] <ducasse> sullvian: if you need a graphical desktop then lubuntu is pretty light, yes
[11:03] <sullvian> ok, thank you!
[11:04] <DusteD> ninaccino, okay, got it working, this was actually caused my my dejavu font package being messed up :s
[11:04] <DusteD> so after fixing that, and removing all traces of xmoto from my homedir, it started up ^_^
[11:04] <ninaccino> DusteD: Oh damn, all that from a font package hahaha. Well, have fun playing!
[11:11] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:19] <ninaccino> Mornin!
[11:42] <lordl> How can I extend the partition of my Ubuntu server with the unallocated space? I am using Ubuntu 18.04 (64 bit) and I extended the Virtual Machine disk. So, how can I use that unallocated space now?
[11:47] <bhuddah> lordl: do you use lvm?
[11:47] <lordl> bhuddah, I don't know.
[11:47] <bhuddah> lordl: does "pvs" output volume information?
[11:48] <lordl> No.
[11:48] <bhuddah> did you run it as root?
[11:49] <lordl> Yes.
[11:49] <lordl> No error, but no output.
[11:49] <bhuddah> okay. sorry. i didn't do that to real partition is like forever. maybe someone else still knows how to do that. lordl
[11:50] <lordl> It's okay.
[11:53] <royal_screwup21> can someone help me make sense of this? I'm trying to replace my default grub and I got this emssage https://pastebin.com/ZWdRnaDF
[11:54] <royal_screwup21> there's an <Ok>sign at the end, but when I click it nothing happens
[11:54] <royal_screwup21> I don't understand what to do
[11:56] <royal_screwup21> the message is ints entirety looks like this https://pastebin.com/4WdetEDR
[11:57] <royal_screwup21> its*
[12:05] <ducasse> have you tried pressing enter?
[12:05] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: normally, this screen wuold look somethig like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=g2_dpkg-reconfigure.png
[12:05] <tomreyn> do you not have devices to choose form there?
[12:07] <tomreyn> see also https://askubuntu.com/questions/384388/how-to-select-option-in-configuration-grub-pc-menu
[12:38] <nobodyknowsme> Heyya, guys
[12:39] <nobodyknowsme> What is initrd
[12:39] <nobodyknowsme> ?
[12:42] <leftyfb> nobodyknowsme: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_ramdisk
[12:47] <nobodyknowsme> leftyfb: thanks
[12:48] <leftyfb> nobodyknowsme: can I help you with something?
[12:51] <nobodyknowsme> leftyfb: nevermind :)
[13:05] <mar77i> hm. I'm struggling with a fresh 18.04 install here; the login screen (gdm3) apparently has some confusion about the screen resolution (or line length), completely scrambling whatever it's trying to display
[13:06] <mar77i> confusingly enough both console and logged-in desktops work flawlessly
[13:10] <nobodyknowsme> mar77i: have you tried the xrandr?
[13:12] <mar77i> I don't really have a term running in the login screen.
[13:13] <nobodyknowsme> mar77i: try Ctrl+Alt+F1
[13:14] <nobodyknowsme> then Ctrl+Alt+F7, if you're lost
[13:15] <mar77i> hm. I logged in blindly now and I'm currently trying to install graphics drivers
[13:25] <testnoob> hello motherfuckers
[13:25] <testnoob> sorry missclick
[13:51] <ninaccino> lol
[14:07] <qwebirc99066> i added 2 aliases in the ~/.bash_aliases file and one of them works while the other one doesnt.  Also the alias that doesnt work, does work when using it with the "alias" command
[14:08] <ninaccino> Maybe you made an alias called 'alias {intended alias} '
[14:08] <BrianBlaze> is it just missing the alias part of the command? :)
[14:09] <qwebirc99066> this is the ~/.bash_aliases file https://pastebin.com/JQ0t28QL
[14:09] <qwebirc99066> the john alias works, but harvest doesnt
[14:10] <qwebirc99066> but if i do alias harvest='python3 /opt/theHarvester/trunk/theHarvester.py'
[14:10] <qwebirc99066> then it works, but obviously not permanently
[14:12] <qwebirc99066> any idea?
[14:16] <qwebirc21055> howdy, I think I'm having trouble with my video drivers? lightdm and startx boot to a black screen, but keyinput still works, was able to logout via terminal without seeing it.
[14:16] <BrianBlaze> I do my aliases differently. I add them to my .bash_profile or .bashrc I do : alias wahtever="whatever command"
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> JessArcade: wich graphics card and ubuntu version please?
[14:20] <qwebirc99066> BrianBlaze: I just did it your way and I still get "harvest: command not found"
[14:21] <JessArcade> @lotuspsychje 18.04.02 (updated yesterday from 16.04) and gt 750M (laptop)
[14:21] <JessArcade> nvidia
[14:21] <qwebirc99066> BrianBlaze: yet again only 1 alias works
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> JessArcade: ubuntu-drivers list gives you wich version(s)?
[14:22] <JessArcade> nvidia-390 is the recommended driver, I also have xorg-nouveau installed
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> JessArcade: are you on gnome or unity?
[14:23] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje: I have both installed, but I'm just trying to launch i3 right now
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> JessArcade: startx isnt the reccomended way anymore try to restart lightdm or gdm with systemd now
[14:26] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje: I've purged lightdm, it was trying to run and I couldn't access a tty terminal to fix it, I guess I could try gdm to see if it happens there too
[14:30] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje: getting the message that $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> JessArcade: a few ideas: perhaps try to create a second user, see if you can get in or try purge nvidia* maybe a nouveau fallback would work
[14:32] <qwebirc99066> anybody got any idea on why only 1 of my aliases is working?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99066: best way if you repeat once in a while, re-ask your full question with all details, ubuntu version, kernel, issue etc
[14:34] <qwebirc99066> lotuspsychje: ok thanks
[14:35] <mar77i> ok. now I'm ready to play around with xrandr.
[14:35] <qwebirc99066> so i have added 2 aliases on the ~/.bashrc file: harvest='python3 /opt/theHarvester/trunk/theHarvester.py' and john='john-the-ripper'.  Apparently only "john" works
[14:35] <qwebirc99066> ubuntu 18.04
[14:36] <mar77i> DISPLAY=:0 xrandr # only returns Can't open display: :9
[14:36] <mar77i> :0 of course, sorry, mistyped
[14:37] <mar77i> so how would I run xrandr in gdm3?
[14:46] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje: still working on it, still got the black screen, trying to remove any broken packages, what's weird is I still get the ubuntu loading screen
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> JessArcade: tell us more about your broken packages?
[14:47] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje: gnome-packagekit was being held back
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> JessArcade: have any external ppa's?
[14:48] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje: had I commented them all out on my sources.list.d
[14:48] <mar77i> hm. had some success with disabling wayland for gdm3. one down, I think one problem to go
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> JessArcade: feel free to pastebin your apt problems
[15:23] <baako> hi guys what command to update your nvidia driver?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> baako, if you use the ubuntru recommended driver for nvidia, it will auto upgrade  when they're available in the repos
[15:26] <baako> BluesKaj, am in command line
[15:26] <baako> when I login using GUI its freezes
[15:26] <baako> read somewhere that driver might need updated
[15:27] <baako> so I restarted into terminal
[15:28] <BluesKaj> did your un updates and upgrades in the terminal
[15:28] <BluesKaj> you run
[15:42] <Furai> Does anyone here know when 418 nvidia drivers will make it to the Graphics PPA? Or who to ask/poke about it?
[15:42] <qwebirc58255> yvyz: you on line
[15:42] <ducasse> Furai: talk to the maintainers of the ppa
[15:45] <qwebirc58255> is there a way for me to leave a message  for  a couple of guys that were helping me last night
[15:48] <Furai> qwebirc58255, assuming you're using webchat - you can click on their nicks on the right in the list and choose "query" from there. It will open a private chat with them. Given that they accept PMs from unregistered users.
[15:48] <qwebirc58255> thank you
[15:49] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje_: back, I installed new drivers, lightdm still goes to a blank screen, but startx is giving a new error "no screens found"
[15:49] <qwebirc58255> dont use irc much over the past couple decades
[15:49] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/mDbNd87BMX/
[15:55] <Richard_Cavell> what's the name of the command-line command that lets you inspect the function of your joystick/gamepad?
[15:59] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: xev ?
[15:59] <Richard_Cavell> no
[16:01] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: and apt-cache search gives me joy2key and joystick which look relevant
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> Richard_Cavell: perhaps "jstest" is the name of the application you're looking for
[16:05] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje_: if you're still out there, I got it to work, no idea what exactly did it
[16:06] <Richard_Cavell> pragmaticenigma, yes, that's it, thanks
[16:07] <Richard_Cavell> now, any idea which device (in /dev) my SNES-style gamepad would be?
[16:13] <lotuspsychje_> !yay | JessArcade
[16:14] <pragmaticenigma> Richard_Cavell: Often, I unplug the device... run "tail -f /var/logs/syslog" and watch the log file for the change
[16:15] <JessArcade> I purged lightdm, gdm and all video drivers, I noticed it kept saying libgl.so was missing, and that on Bionic it's part of the nvidia 340 driver but not the 390(recommended) then reinstalled lightdm and rebooted
[16:17] <Richard_Cavell> pragmaticenigma, good idea.  Here's my dump.  What do I type to get jstest to test this device?  https://ideone.com/ZDFYuf
[16:18] <D-melanogaster> how to setup network for hypervisor using wifi? For eth0 I got following settings: 'etc/network/interfaces' file (auto lo xenbr0, iface lo inet loopback, iface eth0 inet manual, iface xenbr0 inet dhcp, bridge_ports eth0) and '/etc/xen/guest-machine.cfg' (vif = [ 'bridge=xenbr0' ]). It works for me when I use eth0 interface, but if I set wlan0 instead eth0 in my network config, the network offline on local machine and on virtual machine too. How
[16:18] <D-melanogaster> can I setup it properly?
[16:18] <pragmaticenigma> Richard_Cavell: That I couldn't tell you, I acquired the idea of jstest from a web search... you might want to try seraching "jstest examples"
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> D-melanogaster: This channel specializes in Ubuntu support. For networking, you might want to try ##networking
[16:19] <D-melanogaster> thanks
[16:20] <lotuspsychje_> JessArcade: great, tnx for your feedback
[16:20] <Roey> Hello there.    How can I repair my installation?
[16:21] <Roey> Is this just a matter of installing GRUB on the drive from which I want to boot?
[16:22] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje_: oh, and installed ubuntu-desktop, don't know if it got removed when I purged lightdm/gdm or it was missing all this time.
[16:22] <lordcirth> Roey, ... why not turn EFI back on?
[16:22] <lotuspsychje_> JessArcade: did you ltsupgrade from 16.04 before?
[16:22] <Roey> lordcirth: because I'm having trouble getting it to run with Virtualbox
[16:23] <lordcirth> Roey, You enabled virtualization in BIOS?
[16:23] <Roey> yes I did
[16:24] <JessArcade> lotuspsychje_: yeah I had a working 16.04, tried do-release-upgrade but got errors about my ppas, tried to remove them, and it seemed to have installed 18.04 on reboot, but had to dist-upgrade to get all my software up to date and the dm was gone.
[16:24] <Roey> lordcirth: it was running fine until I suppose I ran dist-upgrade (from 18.04) and rebooted like a couple of months later
[16:24] <Roey> and I had been dist-upgrading it regularly
[16:24] <Roey> this time when I rebooted it, I got some error
[16:25] <darkpix> yvyz are you around?
[16:25] <lordcirth> Roey, I doubt that EFI is your problem. What error?
[16:25] <Roey> one moment.. I;ll re-enable things the way they were and report
[16:25] <nacc> Roey: dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade versions
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> JessArcade: well its hard afterwards to notice what happened, but i think some bad leftovers from the ltsupgrade might have caused it
[16:25] <nacc> Roey: of your ubuntu versions, that is
[16:26] <pragmaticenigma> darkpix: If you are seeking assistance of an Ubuntu related support question, please feel free to ask. To find someone to chat, please use appropriate IRC tools, or check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:28] <darkpix> it just that he was helping with a issue i had posted here but i think i will just ask my question again since it was a hours ago
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> darkpix: volunteers can pick up where you left, state your question as pragmaticenigma adviced
[16:29] <SubCool> hey, isnt there a GUI VNC server?
[16:29] <Roey> lordcirth: "No bootable devices found".
[16:29] <SubCool> Everything i google brings me to the CLI VNCserver -
[16:29] <Roey> that's what it gives me when I re-enable UEFI
[16:30] <darkpix> so i need help getting SSHFS working with FSTAB/systemd automount..basically i have tried many variations of config in the fstab, all of them resulting in the the mount folder hanging when i navigate to it. I will paste my config
[16:30] <lordcirth> Roey, ok, and the last thing you changed was an apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade, or do-release-upgrade?
[16:30] <Roey> nacc: you're right, dist-upgrade does not upgrade between releases.  I had run do-release-upgrade, of course
[16:30] <pragmaticenigma> SubCool: x11vnc provides a very crude but functional GUI for managing a local instance of VNC server for the current logged in session
[16:31] <Roey> lordcirth: after transitioning to 18.10 a few months ago I had only been dist-upgrading since.
[16:31] <SubCool> pragmaticenigma - yeah, thats one of my favs. along with ssvnc. But- im looking for a simple gui serer that sits in the system tray. And is Always on. If i have to reformat this machine, which will happen, ill totally forget about all this configuring i did.
[16:32] <lordcirth> Roey, ok. So if you boot from a liveUSB, you can mount the hard drive without errors? You should be able to bind mount /dev and proc in, chroot, and run grub-install. Alternatively, run the boot repair iso
[16:33] <Roey> lordcirth: ok, I just heard of the boot-repair ISO in another channel actually.. does it work well?
[16:33] <pragmaticenigma> SubCool: If you are running Ubuntu 18.04, there are options in the Settings app for enabling and disabling a VNC server (vinegre)
[16:33] <Roey> lordcirth: do you forsee me having any issues with GRUB once I do grub-install?
[16:33] <lordcirth> Roey, yeah, it's pretty handy
[16:33] <SubCool> Ok, maybe im just not thinking this through thoroughly enough. Iam creating a OpenVPN server, so i can simply connect to my machines, and would like to connect via VNC easily. using my tablet.
[16:34] <lordcirth> Roey, hard to tell, since we don't know why it broke
[16:34] <SubCool> Vinegre!!!! - i remember him
[16:34] <SubCool> thanks!!
[16:37] <SubCool> i use to use vinagre- doesnt look the same anymore.
[16:38] <darkpix> i am runnin 18.04 here is paste https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KBwPpZx8Bn/
[16:39] <pi0> does app armour run on ubuntu
[16:39] <pi0> armor
[16:42] <Roey> lordcirth: hey,
[16:42] <Roey> ok, so now when I booted my laptop off a USB stick and tried grub-install /dev/sda2 (sda1 is the UEFI volume), it gave me: "grub-install: error: fiald to get canonical path of '/cow'.
[16:43] <nacc> pi0: yes, primarily only on ubuntu
[16:46] <darkpix> i have been at this for so many hours..lol
[16:47] <leftyfb> darkpix: why are you mounting via sshfs as opposed to cifs or nfs?
[16:48] <pi0>  oh nice
[16:48] <darkpix> leftyfb only option since i dont have root access on remote machine
[16:52] <darkpix> i also tried to follow this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSHFS#fstab_mounting_issues
[16:56] <yvyz> hey darkpix
[16:57] <darkpix> yvyz hi, so yeah still not working
[16:57] <Roey> lordcirth: I followed https://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd  and ran grub-install from a chroot like you mentioned above.  Thanks so much for your help!
[16:58] <darkpix> yvyz you can check my latest paste above
[16:58] <lordcirth> Roey, great
[17:00] <asd__> Hi, after joining a samba 4 domain, i am no more able to login - neither with a local account, nor with a domain-account. But logging in with the domain-account gives a response. It tells me, that my password will expire, but returns back to login mask. In single-user-mode, i see in /var/log/auth.log at first a message like "dbus-dameon ... : ... Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.Avahi': timed out" and after...
[17:01] <BrianBlaze> hello lovelies I am doing a ubuntu desktop install and want to manually install but keep having all kinds of weird issues... It keeps telling me I need to make an EFI boot partition... but I made a biosgrub partition...
[17:01] <asd__> i see a line "... sddm-helper: pam_krb5(sddm:auth): authentication failure;...
[17:01] <BrianBlaze> my only other option close to that is EFI system partition
[17:01] <BrianBlaze> how do I properly make a grub partition manually?>
[17:04] <asd__> it seems to be a pam-thing. But i configured pam.d with pam-auth-update, so this should be right. In /etc/nsswitch.conf, i placed the "files"-option to passwd, group and shadow-option at first in the line, which i expect to use passwd, group and shadows-files for login forst
[17:13] <database2> call to iopl(3) ends with “Operation not permitted”, even when running as root
[17:15] <darkpix> So anyone with an idea?
[17:15] <nacc> database2: are you on i386?
[17:15] <database2> nope amd64
[17:16] <nacc> database2: did you read the iopl manpage? it's primarily for i386
[17:16] <database2> nacc i did
[17:16] <database2> nacc: and you are right
[17:18] <nacc> database2: that's specifically mentioned on the manpage, which is why i asked
[17:18] <database2> basically i am trying to run coreboot tool superiotool and other tools too but it kept saying that ""
[17:18] <database2> iopl: Operation not permitted
[17:18] <database2> Superiotool must be run as root.
[17:18] <database2> basically i am trying to run coreboot tool superiotool and other tools too but it kept saying that ""
[17:18] <database2> iopl: Operation not permitted
[17:18] <database2> Superiotool must be run as root."
[17:20] <dff> i removed a disk with grub on it, i installed xubuntu on a  newly installed disk, and now grub cant boot windows (on a separate disk). in xubuntu i can see and mount the windows partition so im trying to follow this - https://askubuntu.com/questions/197868/grub-does-not-detect-windows but lsblk doesnt show the /boot/efi mountpoint on sba (windows HD)
[17:20] <dff> any help is greatly appreciated
[17:25] <BrianBlaze> did you do sudo os-prober dff ?
[17:26] <BrianBlaze> then if you see windows : sudo update-grub
[17:28] <dff> BrianBlaze: yes
[17:28] <BrianBlaze> did it see windows with sudo ps-prober?
[17:29] <Anywhere> Hey, I, after more than a little research, finally got ubuntu installed on my friends Acer Nitro 515-42. Everything seems to work except the touchpad. When I do "xinput --list" it returns  "virtual core xtest pointer". Not really sure where to go from here. I saw some tips about f6/f7/fn~f6, but when I do fn^f6, all that happens is the screen goes black.
[17:29] <dff> sudo os-prober doesnt output anything, BrianBlaze
[17:29] <BrianBlaze> so no it doesn't :(
[17:29] <dff> how come i can mount the windows drie
[17:29] <dff> *partition
[17:31] <dff> what are my options? do i need to create a windows recovery live-usb?
[17:31] <dff> and runt bootrec?
[17:31] <dff> run*
[17:33] <Anywhere> you can't boot into win?
[17:37] <guest-ooq667_> hi
[17:58] <qwebirc94445> hello, I am having some trouble getting Citrix Receiver working. Everything is installed, but when I try to launch an ICA file it says "The keystore cannot be opened (SSL error 26)". Google wasn't very helpful in finding an answer.
[17:58] <qwebirc94445> Anyone have suggestions?
[18:03] <lordcirth> qwebirc94445, it seems receiver is deprecated: https://www.citrix.com/products/receiver.html
[18:04] <Anywhere> Hey, I, after more than a little research, finally got ubuntu installed on my friends Acer Nitro 515-42. Everything seems to work except the touchpad. When I do "xinput --list" it returns  "virtual core xtest pointer". Not really sure where to go from here. I saw some tips about f6/f7/fn~f6, but when I do fn^f6, all that happens is the screen goes black. (lubuntu 18.10)
[18:22] <qwebirc94445> I am now using "Citrix Workspace", because the Receiver was deprecated. The new error is "Cannot connect to '<IP_ADDRESS> - Published App Name' No such file or directory. Verify your connection settings and try again."
[18:26] <lordcirth> qwebirc94445, you might have better luck asking Citrix support
[18:26] <genii> try/cry
[18:35] <Noisette> grande
[18:38] <Guest54796> hello
[18:39] <ironpillow> Hi all, I have an Ubuntu machine with two NICs, one on <IP_ADDRESS> and other on <IP_ADDRESS>. I connected NIC A into router's <IP_ADDRESS> port and NIC B into router's <IP_ADDRESS> port. How can I send traffic between these ports (iperf) USING the router. I don't want these two NICs to communicate bypassing the router. Any advice? thanks!
[18:39] <B1ack0p> hi. i am having problems with my ubuntu 18.04 everytime i reboot it pops up a warning telling me to report the problem but it doesnt show the error details
[18:39] <B1ack0p> how can i find out what are the problems?
[18:40] <B1ack0p> also when i click some apps it doesnt open such as calculater and language settings
[18:44] <gabmus[m]> hey people, I was wondering if you could help me with something. I am writing a server management tool, and I need to know the time the server takes to boot, including the time it takes for the bios to do its thing. I currently am looking at systemd-analyze, and that's fine for the os alone, but not for the bios. any ideas? also, I know this isn't really the right channel to ask, if you can't answer and want to suggest me a
[18:44] <gabmus[m]> channel where to ask, feel free to
[18:49] <B1ack0p> hi. i am having report a problem popup whenever i start ubuntu but it doesnt show details of the erros
[18:49] <B1ack0p> how can i find out the errors?
[18:50] <rexwin_> I just installed ubuntu as a VM. I cannot ssh into it by putty
[18:50] <gabmus[m]> B1ack0p it's likely stored in /var/crash. if you want to get rid of the error message, you can take a look here: https://www.binarytides.com/ubuntu-fix-system-program-problem-error/
[18:51] <B1ack0p> why am i in #ubuntu-unregged instead of #ubuntu ?
[18:51] <B1ack0p> i am regged already
[18:51] <rexwin_> used a minimal iso
[18:51] <gabmus[m]> rexwin_ did you configure your hypervisor to let the vm communicate with the host system?
[18:51] <rexwin_> yes it was automatically done
[18:52] <gabmus[m]> B1ack0p you're probably not logged in, try messaging NickServ
[18:52] <murthy> rexwin_: the ssh ports are configured?
[18:52] <gabmus[m]> rexwin_ which hypervisor?
[18:52] <B1ack0p> gabmus[m]: who is me
[18:52] <B1ack0p> whois
[18:52] <rexwin_> Vmware workstation
[18:52] <B1ack0p> i am already regged and identified
[18:52] <murthy> B1ack0p: I am you
[18:52] <B1ack0p> lol murthy
[18:52] <rexwin_> I am checking murthy
[18:52] <murthy> :D
[18:52] <gabmus[m]> B1ack0p try joining again
[18:53] <B1ack0p> ok
[18:53] <B1ack0p> i am still here
[18:53] <B1ack0p> O.o
[18:53]  * gabmus[m] shrugs
[18:54] <rexwin_> openssh was installed. issue resolved
[18:54] <B1ack0p> am i in ubuntu channel or unregged? i am very confused now
[18:54] <rexwin_> murthy from chennai
[18:54] <rexwin_> ?
[18:54] <gabmus[m]> b1nd3r
[18:55] <gabmus[m]> sorry sent by mistake
[18:55] <lordcirth> B1ack0p, you are on #ubuntu
[18:55] <B1ack0p> ok then
[18:55] <Anywhere> haha
[18:55] <Anywhere> well that's five mins of your life you never going to get back :)
[18:57] <murthy> rexwin_: yep
[18:57] <rexwin_> Can I PM you?
[18:57] <murthy> sure
[19:04] <Richard_Cavell> pragmaticenigma, just to let you know I solved my joystick problem
[19:04] <Richard_Cavell> The solution was to ls -R1 /dev > txt  then pull out the device then ls -R1 /dev > txt2  and then compare the generated files
[19:04] <Anywhere> Hey, I, after more than a little research, finally got ubuntu installed on my friends Acer Nitro 515-42. Everything seems to work except the touchpad. When I do "xinput --list" it returns  "virtual core xtest pointer". Not really sure where to go from here. I saw some tips about f6/f7/fn~f6, but when I do fn^f6, all that happens is the screen goes black. (lubuntu 18.10)
[19:15] <ioria> Anywhere, try to tweak it in BIOS (Navigate to "Main" and toggle the Touchpad from "Advanced" to "Basic or the contrary");  if not working try to install  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[19:16] <gabmus[m]> Anywhere send over the output of `acpidump`
[19:18] <gabmus[m]> ioria synaptics is deprecated in favor of libinput. I don't think it's a problem with libinput but rather the kernel or the acpi table. I recently had in my hands a lenovo where the touchpad wasn't working because the bios didnt communicate the right address to the kernel or stuff like that. anyway, I solved it with a kernel command line argument
[19:18] <ioria> gabmus[m], probably ; you solved with 'i8042.reset i8042.nomux i8042.nopnp i8042.noloop' ?
[19:18] <ioria> gabmus[m], or acpi_osi= ?
[19:19] <gabmus[m]> ioria https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ideapad_330s#Touchpad I wrote this entry myself, can't remember where I got the argument from
[19:20] <ioria> gabmus[m], interesting;  but in this case the system booted
[19:22] <gabmus[m]> ioria fair point, still I wouldn't exclude a similar problem. speaking of similar problems, some people with lenovos had their touchpads not working because the id of the elan touchpad wasn't in the kernel and had to recompile it themselves
[19:22] <gabmus[m]> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1049787/lenovo-ideapad-330-touchpad-not-working
[19:23] <Anywhere> ioria: this computer doesn't have that, ill try to install that. gabmus[m], if installing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics doesn't work I will.
[19:23] <gabmus[m]> sure, go ahead
[19:24] <ioria> Anywhere, does not have... what ?
[19:25] <Anywhere> ioria: basic/advanced for the touchpad in the bios. I upgraded to the latest y-day
[19:26] <ioria> Anywhere, ah, ok
[19:26] <Anywhere> Sorry forgot to mention that.
[19:26] <Anywhere> doing update/upgrade, that package wasn't in my repos
[19:27] <gabmus[m]> im pretty sure it's there
[19:27] <gabmus[m]> sudo apt install acpidump
[19:27] <Anywhere> oh gabmus[m], I do have pci=noacpi in the bootoptions, only way to boot this laptop.
[19:27] <Anywhere> ok sec
[19:28] <gabmus[m]> ooooh, yeah. so you have the lenovo laptop problem I had...
[19:29] <Anywhere> another thing to complicate this matter, fn^f6 enables the touchpad. apparently it's disabled by default (was in win10, am dualbooting)
[19:31] <gabmus[m]> Anywhere try using these kernel options: idle=nomwait pci=noaer rcu_nocbs=0-7 ivrs_ioapic[4]=00:14.0 ivrs_ioapic[5]=00:00.2
[19:31] <gabmus[m]> and remove pci=noacpi
[19:31] <gabmus[m]> also read this https://forum.manjaro.org/t/all-issues-with-ryzen-2500u-rx560x-acer-nitro-5-an515-42/59156/95
[19:33] <Anywhere> ok
[19:37] <Anywhere> *drumroll*
[19:39] <fleabeard> has anyone experienced their system fans and everything inside their PC spins up to MAX SPEED when restarting Ubuntu in a dual-boot environment? If it reboots with the fans kicked up, it just boots to a black screen and doesn't even show the BIOS output page.
[19:39] <fleabeard> it happens intermittently and powering off and on fixes it
[19:40] <leftyfb> fleabeard: that's a motherboard issue, not Ubuntu. (no BIOS POST)
[19:40] <fleabeard> leftyfb, strange, it only happens (sometimes) when I choose to "restart" my PC from linux. I've never had this problem in Windows ever.
[19:41] <fleabeard> although this is an old board, Gigabyte P55-UD3R with a first gen i7 cpu lol
[19:41] <OerHeks> fleabeard, bad would be fans not kicking in
[19:42] <leftyfb> fleabeard: are you sure it's rebooting completely or just trying to reboot and never actually reboots the computer, hence no POST.
[19:43] <leftyfb> fleabeard: if that is the case, then it might be due to Ubuntu not communicating with your power management properly
[19:43] <fleabeard> leftyfb, hard to tell really, I mean it does darken the screen and the PC does act as though it's starting up from a restart, but it's kinda hard to be certain
[19:44] <fleabeard> it's so intermittent too, I'll keep an eye on it in the future. It just happened too me again (that's twice today out of 4 reboots) so I should be able to reproduce it :)
[19:45] <MalMen> what is the best way to determine the default ipv6 routin use ?
[19:45] <MalMen> *what is the best way to determine the default ipv6 route use ?
[19:47] <OerHeks>  ip -6 route show
[19:47] <gabmus[m]> MalMen ip r maybe?
[19:48] <Anywhere> gabmus[m]: those bootoptions didn't work. But now I have some reading to do, I will probably update the kernel though to start with it seems.
[19:48] <MalMen> is the first one ?
[19:48] <MalMen> 2001:8a0:f027:3600::/64 dev ens160 proto ra metric 1024 pref medium
[19:48] <MalMen> my router actualy have the ip 2001:8a0:f027:3600::1
[19:48] <MalMen> and I dont see it anywhere
[20:03] <Quazil> dpkg-query -L dnsmasq does not show an executable being installed on one of my servers.
[20:03] <Quazil> https://pastebin.com/VT87RMFq
[20:03] <Quazil> How do I track this problem down? 0.o
[20:03] <Quazil> (I've tried purging and reinstalling.)
[20:05] <leftyfb> Quazil: you probably want dnsmasq-base
[20:05] <Quazil> So somehow /usr/sbin/dnsmasq is missing
[20:06] <Quazil> If I remove dnsmasq-base it wants to remove lxd et. al.
[20:07] <Quazil> apt-get install --download-only dnsmasq-base won't download it because it's already installed ...
[20:08] <leftyfb> Quazil: sudo apt install --reinstall dnsmasq-base
[20:11] <ubuntu-mate> Hello !
[20:48] <programings> Hi. Is there an easy way to see color emojis in Ubuntu 16.04?
[20:49] <lordcirth> programings, to see them in what program?
[20:49] <programings> Firefox
[20:49] <programings> Hexchat, etc
[20:50] <wheresvic> hello
[20:50] <leftyfb> 2 completely different tools with unrelated ways of displaying emojis
[20:50] <wheresvic> I'm looking for a feature list for 19.04
[20:50] <wheresvic> could anyone give me pointers to where I could find this information?
[20:50] <leftyfb> !ubuntu+1 | wheresvic
[20:50] <wheresvic> ah ok thanks
[21:17] <LaserAllan_> hey guys, is there a handy GNOME openvpn client?
[21:17] <LaserAllan_> I haven't been able to find aone
[21:17] <LaserAllan_> "one
[21:18] <pragmaticenigma> LaserAllan_: Network Manager can work with OpenVPN ... I think there is a package you need to install to activate it
[21:22] <pragmaticenigma> LaserAllan_: This should put you on the right track... you might need to search for differences if you're running 18.04: https://askubuntu.com/a/187523
[21:36] <LaserAllan_> pragmaticenigma: I am running 1804
[21:36] <LaserAllan_> I finally moved my laptop to Linux :)
[21:36] <LaserAllan_> to my delight, bluetooth is working, the only thjing i haven't gotten to function properly yet is my Logitech MX masters spedcial button
[21:37] <murthy> LaserAllan_: you installed solar?
[21:38] <murthy> I mean solaar
[21:39] <tomreyn> LaserAllan_: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Logitech_MX_Master
[21:40] <tomreyn> arch linux is not ubuntu, it's a different linux distro, but they often have good documentation on non default hardware or configurations which *can* also work on ubuntu.
[21:42] <LaserAllan_> murthy: No not yet, i am also looking at getting pollybar to work :)
[21:42] <LaserAllan_> a friend of mine recommended it
[21:43] <murthy> LaserAllan_: you mean recommended pollybar or solaar?
[21:43] <LaserAllan_> murthy: recommended pollybar
[21:43] <LaserAllan_> I was thinking if i culd write a bash script that would look at if my vpn is connceted and if so display "VPn Connected"
[21:48] <murthy> LaserAllan_:  The vpn client does't do that?
[21:53] <leftyfb> LaserAllan_: nmcli c show --active
[21:55] <wheresvic> I wrote a Node.js script that monitors the lan connection status and runs a command if it changes
[21:55] <wheresvic> it does this via dbus
[21:58] <wheresvic> Feel free to PM me and I can send you a link to the code :)
[21:58] <SimonNL> nmcli c status          is that output show if a connection is VPN or not ?
[21:58] <SimonNL> showing*
[22:04] <tomreyn> SimonNL: a command "nmcli c status" does not exist in 18.04: "Error: argument 'status' not understood."
[22:04] <tomreyn> "nmcli c" does show vpn connections
[22:05] <LaserAllan_> murthy: I havne't installed the client you linked yet
[22:05] <LaserAllan_> I am just thiking to basically use a bash script with pollybar to have a text that basically says "VPN Connected" if it doesnät for exmaple loss 15-20 seconds o ping or something like that
[22:07] <leftyfb> LaserAllan_: so do that
[22:08] <wheresvic> if you go via dbus you can get the networking events
[22:20] <LaserAllan_> wheresvic: Oh.......I haven't done hta tbefore
[22:32] <alesan> hello
[22:32] <alesan> I am on a lifelong journey to find my goal
[22:32] <alesan> that is... eliminate (or reduce) the login timeout time when the password is wrong
[22:32] <alesan> I am running a slightly older version of ubuntu the login manager seems "lightdm"
[22:33] <alesan> however login is (unnecessarily?) complex and it's not easy to find where or who is doing something wrong
[22:33] <MalMen> gabmus[m] OerHeks route -6 actualy give me my ipv6 network
[22:33] <MalMen> but I dont have my iprouter anywhere to find
[22:34] <MalMen> IE: I get 2001:8a0:f067:3622::/64
[22:34] <MalMen> I cant ping 2001:8a0:f067:3622:: it reach nowhere, but if I ping 2001:8a0:f067:3622::1 its all good
[22:34] <alesan> anybody knows where the timeout for a wrong password is? otherwise I will have to check the sources (of lightdm)
[22:35] <MalMen> 2001:8a0:f067:3622::1 is the router ip, but I would like to get it right and not force the 1 in the script
[22:41] <rfm> MalMen, usually there are multiple routes in "ip -6 route show".  You shouldn't just look at the first one (which is probably the route for link local traffic.)
[22:41] <rfm> MalMen, "ip -6 route show default" would show the route being used for non-local traffic.
[22:43] <Anywhere> MalMen: well I don't have it
[22:44] <rfm> MalMen, at least on my system (using SLAAC auto config) the default route uses the router's link-local ip address (starts with fe80::)
[23:17] <qwefytuoityty> test message
[23:32] <qwefytuoityty> Freeze PC. Bug 12309 any buntu version 15-19, Fedora, any Linux based on Ubuntu (Debian). https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309 Only helps if the PC has a large memory that does not work with virtual memory swap space. HDD 7200 rpm, sata2
[23:34] <tomreyn> qwefytuoityty: are you asking a question, or reporting a bug there?
[23:36] <OerHeks> are you sure that is the correct bugreport?
[23:36] <tomreyn> 12309 refers to bugzilla.kernel.org
[23:36] <guiverc> qwefytuoityty, that also mentions `fglrx` which is depreciated (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD) and only supported in 14.04 LTS (which soon will be EOL)
[23:43] <qwefytuoityty>  Remind you that it still exists, have a bug, but en not my lang and i not post information on kernel bug org.
[23:45] <OerHeks> oh, a random bug number, like your name, without details.
[23:48] <anonnumberanon> On Ubuntu, how would I go about making my SD card reader mount? It won't mount when I double click its icon on the desktop when I insert an SD card into the computer (Lenovo W530).
[23:50] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: run this, post the url here:   lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:51] <qwefytuoityty> If there is no free memory and there is a large of free memory in the paging file ( swap ), the computer with linux always freezes. fm2+, hdd 7200 rpm, sata2 buntu version 15-19 i not use. I did not use Linux below version 15
[23:51] <qwefytuoityty> If there is no free memory and there is a large of free memory in the paging file ( swap ), the computer with linux always freezes. fm2+, hdd 7200 rpm, sata2 buntu version 15-19. I did not use Linux below version 15
[23:52] <qwefytuoityty> fedora the same
[23:52] <tomreyn> qwefytuoityty: we only support ubuntu her,e not linux as a whole. you have not asked a support question. do you have a support question? if so, which ubuntu version is it about?
[23:52] <qwefytuoityty> BSD?
[23:52] <anonnumberanon> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/nxcz
[23:52] <kk4ewt> qwefytuoityty;  google linux eat my ram
[23:53] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: run this, post the url here:   lspci -vv | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:53] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: oh actually, not needed.
[23:54] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: which ubuntu version is this about?
[23:54] <anonnumberanon> tomreyn, it is Xbuntu 16.04
[23:55] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: install package libccid
[23:57] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: actually i'm dumb, mixing up sd card and smartcard readers. so back to where we were previously: run this, post the url here:   lspci -vv | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:58] <anonnumberanon> ah i almost installed it, was reading the info about it
[23:58] <qwefytuoityty> Question. When will the paging file work in the same way as in Windows, and not create a visibility that Linux has a paging file (i use swap partition)?
[23:58] <tomreyn> if you got a smartcard, you may want to. otherwise, porbably not.
[23:58] <anonnumberanon> https://termbin.com/jlpa
[23:58] <anonnumberanon> tomreyn,
[23:59] <anonnumberanon> I do have a smart card reader but it is not what is used for SD cards, I have a dedicated SD card slot.