[00:22] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #835766 in dhcp3 (main) "package dhcp3-client 3.1.3-2ubuntu3.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script killed by signal (Segmentation fault)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835766
[00:57] <JoeGazz84> Hey, is there a good Web panel to use for ubuntu server 10.04? That doesn't interfere with nginx and that's not webmin?
[00:58] <pmatulis> JoeGazz84: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal
[00:59] <JoeGazz84> pmatulis: Thanks, I'll look into that one :)
[01:00] <JoeGazz84> pmatulis: Any other ones? We're looking to test like 2
[01:02] <pmatulis> JoeGazz84: not really
[01:05] <JoeGazz84> pmatulis: Ok, thanks :)
[01:05] <JoeGazz84> Really appreciate it.
[01:32] <pmatulis> JoeGazz84: good call to stay away from webmin, it's a hazard
[01:46] <JoeGazz84> ya
[01:46] <JoeGazz84> I know :)
[02:28] <Doonz> Hey does ubuntu support infiniband adpapters?
[02:31] <jmarsden> Doonz: It would appear to.  Googling for   ubuntu infiniband   might be a good start.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/scst for instance.
[02:32] <jmarsden> Doonz: apt-cache search infiniband     may also provide you with some packages of interest :)
[02:32] <Doonz> yeah it was just on the last few vendors sites debian wasnt mentioned as supported
[02:39] <jonf> hi - has anyone had a problem getting login running on a text console on 11.04? (/dev/console /dev/tty0)
[02:47] <jonf> hmm, s'ok - I think I have got it - needed to change some settings in /etc/default/grub. Question is why does this not work by default?
[02:54] <pmatulis> jonf: why should it?
[02:56] <jonf> pmatulis: I just did a text console installation of ubuntu 11.04, and at the end of the install, I have no way to log into the system. That seems wrong to me.
[02:57] <jonf> pmatulis: I rebooted into rescue mode, installed ssh (which I probably should have done anyway.. )
[02:58] <jonf> pmatulis: no virtual consoles working seems new and odd to me, I guess thats all.
[04:07] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #835818 in libvirt (main) "Can't boot qemu w/o kvm (no boot=on param, upstream patch)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835818
[04:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #835825 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835825
[04:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #835829 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835829
[06:59] <CluelessPerson> Hey, I have a question
[07:00] <CluelessPerson> if I wanted to make it so someone go to a certain website on my server and remotely restart the server, how would I do that?
[08:38] <AlecTaylor> hi
[08:38] <AlecTaylor> I'm looking for a FOSS Flash or Java project featuring "Click to call" functionality from the browser. Do you know of such a project?
[08:51] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #835901 in openssh (main) "ssh-copy-id: fails to sanitize arguments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835901
[10:24] <CluelessPerson> hi
[10:24] <CluelessPerson> for some reason I can't place blocks on my server
[10:24] <CluelessPerson> I just switched to world multiverse
[10:24] <CluelessPerson> not sure why it would do that.
[10:26] <CluelessPerson> hello?
[10:26] <CluelessPerson> there are seriously 250 people in this room and there's no answer?
[10:26] <CluelessPerson> weird
[10:32] <alamar> CluelessPerson: you seriously don't have more patience than to wait for 5 minutes?
[10:32] <alamar> not even 5 but start complaining after 2 minutes
[10:33] <alamar> and I for one do not even understand what your question is
[10:34] <CluelessPerson> I got multiverse working
[10:35] <CluelessPerson> alamar  and suddenly I can't place any blocks in any world.
[10:35] <CluelessPerson> worldedit works
[10:35] <CluelessPerson> but I can't place blocks directly in world
[10:36] <alamar> wtf?!
[10:36] <CluelessPerson> pretty much
[10:36] <alamar> CluelessPerson: I still do not know what you are speaking of
[11:34] <MatBoy> this is weird... my ubuntu install does not see any disks on a DL160 G5
[11:36] <MatBoy> this is really new
[11:38] <StevenR> MatBoy: can you be a little more specific?
[11:39] <MatBoy> StevenR: I think the BIOS is dead
[11:39] <MatBoy> StevenR: BIOS sees disks... OS doesn't ... with ahci and compatible
[11:41] <MatBoy> StevenR: also new to me
[11:42] <StevenR> MatBoy: does a live-usb or live-cd see the disks?
[11:43] <StevenR> does one of those see the controller?
[11:46] <MatBoy> StevenR: server CD
[11:47] <StevenR> MatBoy: please be more verbose.
[12:32] <AlecTaylor> I'm looking for a FOSS Flash or Java project featuring "Click to call" functionality from the browser. Do you know of such a project?
[15:40] <cemc> hi. I suspended my desktop and after resume, /dev/sdb wouldn't start, so I 'scsiadd -r 1 0 0 0' and the 'scsiadd -a 1 0 0 0'. now the drive shows up as sdc. can I rename it back to sdb, and how?
[15:54] <cemc> nvr mind
[16:34] <kaushal> Hi
[16:36] <kaushal> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/676648/
[16:36] <kaushal> its on 10.04.1
[16:36] <kaushal> Can someone please help me understand the figure 71.4g
[16:36] <kaushal> how is it possible ?
[16:38] <maxagaz> hi
[16:40] <maxagaz> I would like to monitor all the traffic on my server, at least all the SSH traffic (who and where do people conenct from, the amount of data they've downloaded or uploaded, and from where), what tool should I use ?
[16:41] <maxagaz> (especially ssh tunnelling traffic)
[16:42] <kaushal> Any clue please ?
[17:05] <hggdh> kaushal: this is virtual memory you are looking at
[17:05] <hggdh> the whole address space for this process
[17:07] <kaushal> yes
[17:07] <kaushal> hggdh: but the physical memory space is 48 GB
[17:07] <kaushal> oh ok
[17:08] <kaushal> so means hardisk space ?
[17:08] <hggdh> no
[17:09] <hggdh> directly from the man entry for 'top': The total amount of virtual memory used by the task.  It includes all code, data and shared libraries plus pages that have been swapped out and pages that have been mapped but not used.
[17:09] <kaushal> ok
[17:09] <hggdh> this is just memory space
[17:09] <kaushal> got it
[17:10] <kaushal> also if i need someone to refer to VIRT under man top
[17:10] <kaushal> is there a shortcut key or something ?
[17:10] <jfb_h20> lost my webcam /dev/video0 , but can't determine the cause...
[17:10] <kaushal> like href in case of html page
[17:10] <kaushal> i know just do man top and then /VIRT
[17:10] <jfb_h20> dmesg shows it registered a new interface driver uvcvideo...
[17:11] <jfb_h20> any ideas on what else to check?
[17:11] <kaushal> simpler way to do it ?
[17:11] <hggdh> kaushal: no, not really. But. while in 'man' you can search for 'VIRT', or 'o:', and this will put you straight to the explanation
[17:11] <hggdh> heh
[17:11] <jfb_h20> can I delete /dev/video0 and see reboot? maybe it was corrupted?
[17:12] <kaushal> you can search for 'VIRT', or 'o:' ?
[17:12] <kaushal> not sure how do i use o: ?
[17:14] <kaushal> hggdh: please help me understand
[17:15] <hggdh> kaushal: /o:
[17:15] <kaushal> ok
[17:15] <hggdh> kaushal: the fields shown on 'top' are associated with letters. 'o' is the letter for the VIRT field
[17:16] <kaushal> ok
[17:16] <kaushal> i did top -d 1
[17:16] <kaushal> and then letters ?
[17:17] <hggdh> no, you would need to start top, then enter 'o' and the fields you want
[17:18] <hggdh> (the fields will be shown)
[17:19] <hggdh> I mean, just hit 'o', then select the fields you want
[17:28] <kaushal> hggdh: Thanks
[17:29] <kaushal> also what does [flush-8:16]
[17:29] <kaushal> mean
[17:29] <kaushal> how do i get rid of it
[17:29] <kaushal> when i do top this process shows up
[17:29] <kaushal> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30191/how-can-i-prevent-flush-816-and-jbd2-sdb2-8-from-causing-gui-unresponsivenes
[17:30] <kaushal> hdparm -C /dev/sda
[17:30] <kaushal> /dev/sda: drive state is:  unknown
[17:30] <kaushal> Please help me understand
[17:35] <kaushal> hggdh: also SWAP is just 4GB
[17:35] <kaushal> How come VIRT is 74 GB
[17:36] <hggdh> virt shows all memory referenced, even these not allocated
[17:37] <kaushal> not sure i understand that
[17:49] <kaushal> hggdh: please help me understand
[18:12] <hggdh> ok, kaushal has left
[18:14]  * hggdh again goes elsewhere as well
[18:15] <Guybrush_T> dont know if this is the right place to ask but i have some problems with bind9: i just configured dhcpd and bind to use dyndns and it seems to work up to one point - named wants to creat journal files corresponding to the zone files but apparmor interferes
[18:16] <Guybrush_T>  apparmor="DENIED" operation="mknod" parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/named" name="/etc/bind/db.intranet.local.jnl" pid=19257 comm="named" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=105 ouid=105
[18:16] <Guybrush_T> any ideas?
[18:22] <hggdh> Guybrush_T: run 'sudo aa-status' to find the name of the bind9 profile; then run 'aa-complain <the profile name you found>
[18:22] <hggdh> this will put the bind9 profile in complain mode
[18:23] <hggdh> then find out what it is complaining about (all of the complains) and adjust the apparmor bind9 profile as needed; then put it back in enforce mode
[18:23] <hggdh> I do not use bind9, so I do not know if this is an expected action from you, or a bug
[18:24] <Guybrush_T> ill give that a try
[18:24] <Guybrush_T> its probably named
[18:27] <hggdh> then the profile is probably /usr/sbin/named, and will be called usr.sbin.named in the /etc/apparmor.d directory
[18:28] <Guybrush_T> thanks - ill have a look there - hope its not too complicated to change that stuff
[18:28] <Guybrush_T> btw - even though its in complain mode the error msg didnt really change
[18:30] <Guybrush_T> just tried to open /usr/sbin/named .... doesnt look right ^^
[18:30] <Guybrush_T> ah sorry got that mixed up
[18:30] <hggdh> heh
[18:31] <hggdh> and I should have told you from the beginning the profile name... it is shown in the messages
[18:31] <Guybrush_T> ah ^^
[18:31] <Guybrush_T> ok i opened it
[18:32] <Guybrush_T> ok i notice one thing - theres a comment that says /etc/bind should be read only
[18:32] <Guybrush_T> for bind
[18:32] <hggdh> this is not an error if you put the profile in complain mode
[18:33] <hggdh> yes. this is why apparmour complained on a create operation
[18:33] <hggdh> apparmor
[18:33] <Guybrush_T> yes
[18:34] <Guybrush_T> but it seems to be ok that it complains
[18:34] <hggdh> also, if you 'grep audit /var/log/syslog' you will see all apparmour messages, then it is just adjusting the profile
[18:34] <Guybrush_T> cant be a  bug if theres even a comment to explain it
[18:34] <hggdh> if it is in complain mode, then named is running, and you should be able to check NS resolution
[18:35] <hggdh> Guybrush_T: I did not *think* it was a real error, since it seems you created some zones; but I am not sure (again, I do not use bind9)
[18:35] <Guybrush_T> oh - its not that named is not starting
[18:35] <Guybrush_T> its running fine
[18:36] <Guybrush_T> but WHEN a client requests dhcp dhcp contacts named to write a new dns entry
[18:36] <Guybrush_T> thats when named/bin tries to creates / append to a jnl file in /etc/bind
[18:37] <hggdh> and you might get another audit message stating what operation would be blocked -- and you again adjust the profile, and reload it
[18:37] <Guybrush_T> so i should comment the following line? /etc/bind/** r,
[18:38] <hggdh> no
[18:38] <hggdh> of course, you _can_, but you are weakening the protection
[18:38] <Guybrush_T> right - thought so too ^^ - then i didnt understand what you wanted me to do
[18:38] <Guybrush_T> "adjust the profile"
[18:41] <hggdh> named is trying to work on your zone files, but the default profile inhibits it. So you adjust the profile in order to be able to go back to enforce mode
[18:44] <hggdh> keeping with your error line, db.intranet.local.jnl is being created, but the usr.sbin.named profile does not authorise it. So you can add a line saying this file can be created (and written to, also)
[18:46] <Guybrush_T> i just found an interesting conversation about using symlinks
[18:46] <Guybrush_T> there seems to be a directory wher bind can/ should write those jnl files to
[18:46] <Guybrush_T> /var/cache/bind
[18:51] <Guybrush_T> ok, i just founda  forum post that explains how its supposed to be done: bind shouldnt be allowed to write anything to /etc/bind - thats why the zone files should be linked to from /var/cache/bind/
[18:51] <Guybrush_T> when named finds them there it will create the jnl files there and not try to create them in /etc/bind/
[18:51] <Guybrush_T> so ill try that
[18:52] <Guybrush_T> i can tell you how it went if you are still interested
[18:52] <log69> hi all! anybody interested in testing my security related software? to harden servers too? this is a 1-click auto MAC configuration solution. every suggestion or opinion is welcome! my site: http://log69.com/tomld_en.html
[18:53] <hggdh> Guybrush_T: sounds plausible, and yes, I would be interested (since one day I am going back to bind9 ;-))
[18:53] <Guybrush_T> what are you using now anyway?
[18:55] <hggdh> an external NS (google)
[18:55] <Guybrush_T> ah k
[18:55]  * alamar favors powerdns
[18:56] <Guybrush_T> man id like to try them all but im so nooby i have to go slow about it
[18:56] <Guybrush_T> i want so muchb and can do so little ^^
[18:57] <Guybrush_T> also im SO CLOSE to getting it to work (i think)
[18:57] <hggdh> heh
[19:00] <Guybrush_T> the link i probably need is  simply ln -s right?
[19:01] <Guybrush_T> coz it still wants to write in /etc/bind...
[19:01] <Guybrush_T> *sigh*
[19:07] <hggdh> Guybrush_T: IDK now, sorry
[19:07] <Guybrush_T> hggdh: its ok - thanks for helping
[19:38] <Guybrush_T> hah! it works
[19:39] <Guybrush_T> problem was that the zone descripton in named.conf.local was still pointing to the /etc/bind/ files and not the symlinks ^^
[19:40] <Guybrush_T> hggdh: bump
[19:44] <rickjaruiz> how do i force close a screen? i used screen ./start.sh
[19:46] <guntbert> rickjaruiz: screen as in screen (the program)?
[19:46] <rickjaruiz> yes
[19:46] <rickjaruiz> its stuck
[19:46] <rickjaruiz> trying to start
[19:47] <rickjaruiz> i need to force close
[19:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> um...
[19:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> why did you do screen ./start.sh?
[19:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> curious :P
[19:47] <rickjaruiz> it starts a server
[19:47] <guntbert> rickjaruiz: try ctrl+c, ctrl+d
[19:48] <rickjaruiz> nvm, i did ctrl+a then +d, then screen -X quit
[19:50] <rickjaruiz> is there a "free -m" that auto refreshes?
[19:52] <guntbert> rickjaruiz: watch free -m
[19:52] <rickjaruiz> nice thanks
[19:53] <guntbert> you're welcome :-)
[20:43] <hggdh> Guybrush_T: ack, thank you
[21:49] <Guybrush_T> is there a way to make bind flush all dyndns entries?
[21:51] <photon> Guybrush_T: #bind
[22:03] <StevenR> Guybrush_T: restart it
[22:03] <Guybrush_T> nah doesnt work
[22:04] <StevenR> how do you know it doesn't work? What tests are you doing to verify this?
[22:06] <Guybrush_T> i restarted it
[22:06] <Guybrush_T> and when i do nslookup its still there
[22:07] <Guybrush_T> or what did you mean
[22:07] <StevenR> I meant that, but much more precise. Could you pastebin the terminal output for your testing?
[22:10] <Guybrush_T> do you want me restart dhcpd too?
[22:11] <StevenR> I'm not sure that would help. Could you expand on your problem and setup. It might help to explain what you expect/want to occur
[22:12] <Guybrush_T> ok 1 sec ill post to pastebin first
[22:12] <StevenR> sure
[22:12] <Guybrush_T> http://pastebin.com/6z2qA0H3
[22:14] <Guybrush_T> so my setup is: dhcpd-server with 1 subnet and ddns - and 1 bind/named-server with 1 forward and 1 reverse zone
[22:14] <Guybrush_T> they share a key for allow-update
[22:14] <Guybrush_T> my forward zone works perfectly well
[22:15] <Guybrush_T> but the reverse zone doesn't
[22:15] <Guybrush_T> at one point i had the following error msg: adding an RR at '<IP_ADDRESS>.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa' PTR
[22:15] <StevenR> be more precise (I also recommend learning how to use the "dig" command, because it's much clearer to see what's happening I find)
[22:15] <Guybrush_T> well no error
[22:16] <Guybrush_T> but it ads some bugus stuff
[22:16] <Guybrush_T> the ip is far too long
[22:16] <StevenR> can you be more precises about "doesn't work"
[22:16] <Guybrush_T> yes dig is supposed to be good
[22:17] <Guybrush_T> well in the syslog it prints lines like the one above where the ip adress is fucked up and when i do nslookup IPADR it says: server can't find <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa.: NXDOMAIN
[22:17] <StevenR> looking at that message, either the DHCP server isn't right, or the zone definition or zone file isn't right
[22:17] <Guybrush_T> i think so too
[22:17] <StevenR> try dig @dnsserverIP <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa. PTR
[22:17] <Guybrush_T> problem is i cant test my changes to the files because they "ignore" me because im already in the tables
[22:18] <Guybrush_T> pastebin or private msg
[22:18] <Guybrush_T> ?
[22:19] <StevenR> pastebin please, then anyone playing along can see it
[22:19] <Guybrush_T> http://pastebin.com/m3FWxgFD
[22:19] <Guybrush_T> kk
[22:19] <StevenR> get rid of the text "IP" from the command and try again
[22:20] <Guybrush_T> ah ok
[22:20] <StevenR> dig @<IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa. PTR
[22:21] <Guybrush_T> http://pastebin.com/eqSe7P98
[22:22] <Guybrush_T> ah i just noticed i can edit pastes
[22:22] <Guybrush_T> i can paste my dhcpd and named files as well if you want
[22:24] <StevenR> yes, do that.
[22:26] <Guybrush_T> http://pastebin.com/iu7mMKXm
[22:26] <Guybrush_T> thats cat named.conf named.cong.options named.cong.locals
[22:27] <Guybrush_T> http://pastebin.com/VLhJSebJ
[22:27] <Guybrush_T> dhcpd.conf
[22:30] <StevenR> ok. can you paste the zone file for the reverse zone too please
[22:30] <Guybrush_T> the forward one works fine - so ill post the reverse
[22:30] <StevenR> sure
[22:30] <StevenR> both the named and dhcpd confs look fine
[22:31] <Guybrush_T> http://pastebin.com/bXVZZCrz
[22:32] <Guybrush_T> if you look into the dhcpd.conf - there's ddns-rev-domainname : im not sure with that one
[22:32] <Guybrush_T> also im not sure if to add a dot
[22:34] <StevenR> the internet suggests ddns-rev-domainname "in-addr.arpa";
[22:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[22:35] <Guybrush_T> i tried that one too
[22:35] <StevenR> and you want   ddns-domainname "intranet.local.";
[22:35] <Guybrush_T> ah
[22:35] <Guybrush_T> but it works
[22:35] <StevenR> hmm.. or maybe not
[22:35] <Guybrush_T> u sure?
[22:35] <StevenR> hang on
[22:36] <Guybrush_T> also then it would be in-addr.arpa. right?
[22:36] <StevenR> hmmm.... no
[22:36] <Guybrush_T> adding an RR at '<IP_ADDRESS>.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa' PTR --> from this message i take that i have something wrong with the zones
[22:37] <Guybrush_T> it took the zone name and used it as "last ip number"
[22:38] <StevenR> the zone file is missing something
[22:38] <StevenR> everything else looks fine
[22:38] <Guybrush_T> so i think dhcpd posts over <IP_ADDRESS> as the last number - and bind puts it in front of its own X.0.168.192
[22:39] <Guybrush_T> how do you know its missing something? also the zone file is not really involved in the dyndns part i thought
[22:39] <StevenR> put this below the $TTL line in the reverse zone file
[22:39] <StevenR> $ORIGIN 0.168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA.
[22:40] <StevenR> then, stop bind, remove the journal files, start bind again, and see
[22:41] <StevenR> Guybrush_T: the zone file is where those PTR records are written (well, actually to the journal, and periodically committed to the zone file)
[22:42] <Guybrush_T> uhu
[22:42] <Guybrush_T> ok i removed the jnl
[22:43] <Guybrush_T> just another short question: i stopped bind - removed the jnl and started bind again: why can i still nslookup my client? shouldnt this information begone?
[22:44] <StevenR> can you be more specific?
[22:45] <StevenR> pastebin the command and output
[22:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> your system may be caching the lookups.  or nslookup is using other servers
[22:45] <Guybrush_T> ok - so now: i had another dhcp request etc but since he already knew my laptop he didnt map anything - there are no jnl fils created
[22:46] <Guybrush_T> http://pastebin.com/j9jDCF5q
[22:47] <StevenR> Guybrush_T: it already had a lease for you
[22:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[22:47] <StevenR> so dhcpd didn't need to do anything
[22:48] <Guybrush_T> then i need to flush the leases
[22:49] <StevenR> it'll be somewhere like /var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases .... you need to stop dhcpd, remove the file, start dhcpd. It's a BAD PLAN to do it if you have multiple dhcp clients active, as you *might* get IP conflicts
[22:55] <Guybrush_T> StevenR: !!!! it works
[22:55] <Guybrush_T> =D
[22:55] <StevenR> *jazz hands*
[22:56] <Guybrush_T> i think the ddns-rev thing did the trick
[22:56] <Guybrush_T> thanks man!
[22:56] <StevenR> did you add both the ddns-rev thing and the origin thing?
[22:56] <Guybrush_T> im working on this for 8 hours
[22:56] <Guybrush_T> ah yes
[22:56] <Guybrush_T> that too
[22:56] <Guybrush_T> maybe thats it too
[22:56] <Guybrush_T> i dont know
[22:56] <StevenR> it was the origin thing then
[22:57] <Guybrush_T> can you explain the problem?
[22:57] <StevenR> the zone file lacked a reference point
[22:58] <StevenR> so dhcpd expected to be doing one thing, but because of the lack of reference point, ended up doing something else
[22:58] <Guybrush_T> ok - well i cant thank you enough for your time
[22:59] <Guybrush_T> i would've never found that
[22:59] <StevenR> no problem :)
[23:00] <Guybrush_T> should there be this origin in the forward zone field too?
[23:00] <Guybrush_T> i mean it works but i want it to be proper
[23:01] <StevenR> can you pastebin the forward zone file ?
[23:03] <Guybrush_T> http://pastebin.com/kwjZQWHF
[23:04] <Guybrush_T> i just read that usually the origin is by default the same as the zone name defined in the named.conf
[23:04] <Guybrush_T> and it worked for the forward zone probably
[23:07] <StevenR> http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch8/#zone
[23:07] <Guybrush_T> maybe i should've put just in-addr.arpa instead of 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa in the named.cong
[23:07] <Guybrush_T> *conf
[23:07] <StevenR> yes, that's probably true. Doesn't hurt to be specific
[23:07] <Guybrush_T> <IP_ADDRESS>.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa
[23:07] <StevenR> I'd just be specific in the zone file. Then the filename doesn't actually matter
[23:08] <Guybrush_T> yeah
[23:08] <Guybrush_T> well im dead beat
[23:08] <Guybrush_T> gotta go to bed now
[23:08] <StevenR> see that zytrax link for an example forward zone
[23:08] <StevenR> $ORIGIN example.com.
[23:08] <StevenR> (note the trailing .)
[23:09] <Guybrush_T> yeah i have the trailing dot for my forward zone anyway
[23:09] <Guybrush_T> in named.cong
[23:09] <Guybrush_T> NONF
[23:09] <Guybrush_T> CONF
[23:09] <Guybrush_T> gee
[23:09] <Guybrush_T> also - is it possible to use a subdomain of my real domain for my home network? like home.mydomain.com
[23:10] <Guybrush_T> and then server.home.mydomain.com
[23:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> a subdomain of a subdomain?
[23:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[23:14] <StevenR> Guybrush_T: yes, technically it is.... you'll need to do a little thinking up front as to how you expect it to work
[23:15] <Guybrush_T> TheEvilPhoenix: sounds cool right ^^
[23:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> not really
[23:15] <Guybrush_T> thinking is for the morrow
[23:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> StevenR is right, you need to decide how you want it structured ahead of time
[23:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> for example, my home net has a domain, homenet162.domain.us
[23:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> no that's not the real domain
[23:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> each system inside that has its own hostname: machinename.homenet162.domain.us
[23:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> routing to that is processed through a system i own
[23:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> crazy difficult to keep running
[23:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> since i now have 15 systems on said network
[23:18] <TheEvilPhoenix> (granted i'm not going to explain my configuration, as i havent had to modify it in EVER)
[23:18] <TheEvilPhoenix> but he's right, in order to define that subdomainofasubdomain
[23:18] <TheEvilPhoenix> you really need to consider the structuring of everything ahead of time
[23:18] <TheEvilPhoenix> before setting it all up
[23:21] <Guybrush_T> i thought so
[23:21] <Guybrush_T> but it sounds nice anyway
[23:22] <Guybrush_T> thanks again - and ill be going now
[23:22] <Guybrush_T> tomorrow will be iptables turn
[23:22] <Guybrush_T> yay
[23:22] <Guybrush_T> ILL BE BACK
[23:23] <Guybrush_T> StevenR: btw - i just commented out the origin thing with ;
[23:23] <Guybrush_T> and still worked
[23:23] <StevenR> in which file?
[23:23] <Guybrush_T> i think it was the ddns-rev-domainname
[23:23] <Guybrush_T> the reverse zone
[23:24] <StevenR> so what does the ddns-rev-domainname say now? And what does the conf say for the zone name?
[23:24] <Guybrush_T> named.cong zone name: "0.168.192.in-addr.arpa"
[23:25] <Guybrush_T> dhcpd.cong ddns-rev-domainname "in-addr.arpa";
[23:25] <StevenR> well, I suppose that's technically correct
[23:26] <Guybrush_T> i suppose
[23:26] <StevenR> it'd be better to specify the origin tbh
[23:26] <Guybrush_T> yeah thats why i just commented it out - i plan to put it back in - just wanted to try it
[23:26] <Guybrush_T> well - good night
[23:27] <StevenR> night


[07:05] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:24] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[07:24] <brobostigon> o/
[08:19] <marshmn> o/
[08:28] <brobostigon> o/


[16:40] <acheronuk> x86 builders look borked
[16:40] <acheronuk> this is becoming quite the usual weekend thing :/
[16:49] <tsimonq2> cjwatson, wgrant: ^^^^^^
[17:02] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: you are a shameless pinger
[17:02] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: :P
[19:30] <Jasem[m]> is Launchpad having server build issues?
[20:23] <tsimonq2> cjwatson, wgrant: Still down to only two builders...
[20:23] <tsimonq2> (on amd64 and i386)
[20:23] <Jasem[m]> tsimonq2: yeah it's been like this since morning.. what's going on?
[20:23] <tsimonq2> Jasem[m]: No clue.
[22:59] <cjwatson> Lots of cases of ports failing to detach from old instances, by the looks of things.
[22:59] <cjwatson> Well, on lgw01.
[23:00] <wgrant> Yeah, we're working on it.
[23:01] <wgrant> But the queue is mostly drained now.


[02:07] <mup> Bug #1941028 changed: make syncdb can't find database command <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941028>
[02:10] <mup> Bug #1941028 opened: make syncdb can't find database command <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941028>
[02:19] <mup> Bug #1941028 changed: make syncdb can't find database command <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941028>
[02:22] <mup> Bug #1941028 opened: make syncdb can't find database command <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941028>
[02:28] <mup> Bug #1941028 changed: make syncdb can't find database command <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941028>
[02:37] <mup> Bug #1941666 opened: Deployments fail due to custom repo  <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941666>
[02:40] <mup> Bug #1941666 changed: Deployments fail due to custom repo  <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941666>
[02:43] <mup> Bug #1941666 opened: Deployments fail due to custom repo  <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941666>
[02:55] <mup> Bug #1941666 changed: Deployments fail due to custom repo  <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941666>
[03:01] <mup> Bug #1941666 opened: Deployments fail due to custom repo  <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941666>
[13:59] <mup> Bug #1941755 opened: FATAL: Squid is already running: Found fresh instance PID file (/var/snap/maas/12555/proxy/squid.pid)  <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941755>
[14:05] <mup> Bug #1941755 changed: FATAL: Squid is already running: Found fresh instance PID file (/var/snap/maas/12555/proxy/squid.pid)  <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941755>
[14:23] <mup> Bug #1941755 opened: FATAL: Squid is already running: Found fresh instance PID file (/var/snap/maas/12555/proxy/squid.pid)  <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1941755>


[00:00] <hads> How rude.
[00:35] <G> hads: thanks
[00:36]  * G wonders if NZRS are up to tricks, I'm sure it worked last week
[00:36] <G> It worked from home so obviously a "NZ only" thing, but it seems strange to limit it to NZ only
[02:16] <olly> G: got an example which fails for you?
[02:45] <G> olly: skywesay.co.nz was one, but I tweeted them, they reckon it's just rate limiting
[02:45] <G> works from home, not from my Dallas Linode
[02:45] <olly> works for me from a colo box in the uk
[02:45] <olly> it figures linode might generate more requests than either of us...
[02:48] <G> yeah, guess I can't blame them for rate limiting really, they've got to balance privacy and stability and all
[03:08] <hads> You would think the rate limiting would be per IP
[03:08] <hads> My test was from Freemont Linode by the way.
[03:09] <G> Or, at max per /24, it's nearly as if they are limiting per AS or something
[03:09] <hads> Yup
[03:10] <olly> i guess they limit based on the characteristics of the abusive accesses they see
[03:10] <hads> But we're all guessing.
[03:21] <G> https://twitter.com/dotNZ/status/597602091000008704   "likely that activity by another party in the same country is impacting you."
[03:29] <hads> How obscure.
[03:30] <G> yeah
[03:34] <G> Well it's not the whole of the US blocked either, tried a VPS on DigitalOcean and it worked
[03:36] <olly> i think they just don't want to give details of how they rate limit in case people use that to try to evade it
[03:37] <olly> but they are indicating it's not just by individual IP
[03:46] <G> yeah, must be per block/AS or something
[04:04] <hads> Blocking through obscurity.
[19:58] <ibeardslee> morning
[23:46] <olly> morning
[23:56] <G> morning ;)


[02:06] <gnubian> Are there any decent dark GTK themes for lubuntu?
[02:09] <kc2bez> arc-dark ?
[02:33] <gnubian> I tried that but it is only changing the borders. I don't know if the theme has to be modified for Openbox or for GTK
[07:23] <eric> Ubuntu es lo mejor
[07:23] <eric> Ubuntu is the best
[07:25] <eric> Hello
[07:39] <eric> how i install python 3.7?
[07:52] <eric> 19.04
[07:53] <guiverc2> eric, lubuntu 19.04 (in fact all 19.04) is EOL - https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-19-04-end-of-life-and-current-support-statuses/
 @CDSmith [<CDSmith> Hey gang, how do I enable auto login in 19.10 ?], it s at settings
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> CDSmith: This link should help you https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php …], Arch wiki ftw!
 Seems inappropriate in a (l)ubuntu channel. But arch wiki is really good and very helpful in every linux distro. Not just confined to arch.
 Would someone here be so kind as to walk me through making Brave my default browser, please?
 @heysoundude [Would someone here be so kind as to walk me through making Brave my default brow …], im sorry but no, it s a known bug ...
 The inability to change default applications?
 as i know default browser, idk about other defaults
 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
 Hopefully they’ve got it solved for 20.04
 i also hope
 why do u use brave? dont misunderstand me, i just want to learn ur opinion as i see u also a linux user
 It runs brilliantly under 19.10, as it did under 18.04.  … I use it as a backstop to the network adblocking I’m running on my router
 Plus it has built-in webtorrent capability. And some other things I don’t use.
 Like Tor integration
 And IPFS
 @heysoundude [It runs brilliantly under 19.10, as it did under 18.04.  … I use it as a backstop …], do u mean u use it to filter ur all internet line with its adblocker from router?
 I run adblocking on my router, yes; Brave catches what might sneak through that net.
 ...to my desktop, mobile, tablet...
 i just know copy-paste to terminal and write some words if i can read them from screen, that s my level, can i do same as u do?
 You’re looking for help with what, specifically?
 Installing Brave on your desktop or laptop computer?
 Or network-level adblocking?
 "I use it as a backstop to the network adblocking I’m running on my router" how do u do this?
 Ah. Perhaps it’s best if we chat privately.
 there s offtopic for lubuntu
 do u know that groub?
 #lubuntu-offtopic
 I’ve messaged you directly, as it not in any way related to lubuntu
 yes, thanks
[18:06] <M_aD> It's better to remove lubuntu 20.04 from the download page since it's confusing for newbs. They start to believe 20.04 is released and upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04 already and things go wrong. There's such a case on the Dutch Ubuntu forum.
[19:00] <nmzm> Hello everyone :)
[19:01] <diogenes_> hello
 @M_aD [<M_aD> It's better to remove lubuntu 20.04 from the download page since it's con …], they r warning so bad, i wouldnt even touch it if i was a new to linux
[20:42] <nmzm> GRUB is installing on the HDD as I understand? If I have 2 HDD, one of them using LILO, another will use GRUB - is it a good idea?
 @nmzm [<nmzm> GRUB is installing on the HDD as I understand? If I have 2 HDD, one of th …], i guess using same drive is better for uefi, why not? it s just about 350mb already...
 grub is installing in uefi partition, right?
 im not sure even for that:D
 @nmzm [<nmzm> GRUB is installing on the HDD as I understand? If I have 2 HDD, one of th …], Not exactly like that https://superuser.com/questions/347281/multiple-boot-loaders


[02:41] <skinnyM821> Hello, hoping you guys could help me with something:
[02:41] <skinnyM821> hope you guys are well. There is in Linux kernel memory management code a macro called NODE_DATA(#) which returns a address to a global page directory. I was hoping you guys could help me understand if the pointer returned by function is driver/userspace application specific (or if it is global between all 'threads'), and also if # represents only NUMA nodes (CPU sockets) or can also work with cores?
[10:49] <genkgo> Trying to submit a bug
[10:49] <genkgo> Received a TImeout error
[10:50] <genkgo> Multipe times. Last Error ID:         OOPS-de84ed3593f507340f170d565cc9ecf4
[10:56] <genkgo> ah, it just got through with bug 1490132


[05:04] <bullgard4> I obtained a message "panic occurred, switching back to text console". What Natty log file should reflect that?
[05:12] <ohsix> that's a panic; it wouldn't have made it to a log file, you need to take a screenshot of it or otherwise read it to start investigating what it is
[05:14] <ohsix> er screenshot -> photo
[05:27] <bullgard4> ohsix: When having made a photo, is the proper way to report to Launchpad using the command '~$ ubuntu-bug linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic' and attaching there the photo as a file?
[05:28] <ohsix> thats what i did last time i reported a panic
[05:28] <bullgard4> Thank you.
[08:28]  * apw yanws
[08:34]  * apw waves to cking
[08:35] <jjohansen> morning apw, cking
[08:35] <apw> jjohansen, not again!  morning
[08:36]  * apw wonders if mumble is broke, or if its just none of us is in CC
[08:36] <cking> morning one and all, here we go again
[08:36] <jjohansen> apw: nope I'm not here, you are still groggy got get some coffee
[08:37] <jjohansen> s/got/go/
[08:45] <jjohansen> apw: so for aufs in the oneiric kernel we have commit dc7c488aeee4e3a50d6e76c5a6eba01d4ecfe432, and then b105abf699ff68fe0960a2568c14da8f82cfe4eb which is the merge from upstream which should have contained the patch in first commit mentioned, but that commit never got dropped
[08:47] <apw> jjohansen, looking
[08:48] <apw> jjohansen, ok the 'merge' from upstream is just a physical copy over of the aufs code
[08:48] <apw> so we'd never know to remove the old commit, does t
[08:48] <jjohansen> apw: ah, right
[08:48] <apw> that matter ?
[08:49] <jjohansen> apw: nope, except it shows up as a sauce patch to check status on
[08:50] <apw> jjohansen, ahh just mark it 'merged upstream already' and i'll try and figure out how to lose it :)
[08:50] <jjohansen> apw: will do :)
[09:58] <apw> 7467571 cpuidle: menu: fixed wrapping timers at 4.294 seconds
[10:12] <ppisati> lucid/fsl-imx51 have already 3 new commits but no start release since the last UBUNTU: Ubuntu-xxx closure
[10:13] <ppisati> shall i start a new release or do i keep committing on top of these?
[10:14] <apw> ppisati, generally we expect whoever notices the startnewrelease is missing to add it, thoguh it doesn't matter when it occurs, so feel free to add it
[10:14] <ppisati> apw: do i pop off the 3 commits and add a new release there or do i add it now?
[10:14] <apw> ppisati, it totally doesn't matter the order, so just stick it next
[10:14] <ppisati> ok
[14:31]  * ogasawara back in 20
[15:15] <sconklin> moin
[15:18] <lool> I've started an ubuntu-devel@ thread to discuss removal of the armel versatile flavor; I didn't Cc: ubuntu-kernel@, but will pass the result of the discussion in case it's favorable (nobody objects to the removal)
[15:19] <tgardner> lool, isn't the versatile flavor required for qemu ?
[15:23] <tgardner> lool, nm, just saw your email
[15:31] <ppisati> who decides which patch-es close a CVE? because i'm skeptical about CVE-2010-4251
[15:31] <ubot2> ppisati: The socket implementation in net/core/sock.c in the Linux kernel before 2.6.34 does not properly manage a backlog of received packets, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (memory consumption) by sending a large amount of network traffic, as demonstrated by netperf UDP tests. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2010-4251)
[15:31] <ppisati> since the mentioned patches are not enought to close the DDOS scenario
[15:31] <ppisati> and in fact, later, there's another patch related to it but the CVE doesn't mention it as necessary
[15:39] <apw> ppisati, i would say in large part the security team who read the background, but should you find an apparent discrepancy do feel free to refer it back to them, better to waste a bit of their time checking than to miss it
[15:39] <ppisati> apw: ok
[16:03] <stat> Anyone here able to let me know a bit about the PAE kernel?
[16:06] <stat> (I'm just going to talk anyways. Ignore me if I'm irrelevant)
[16:07] <stat> It seems that the "big memory" flag for the PAE kernel is disabled by default now. That means you only get a maximum of 3.5GB. If you only get an extra 512MB, why even bother with PAE?
[16:09] <apw> stat, big memory flage?  which one are you referring to ?
[16:12] <stat> I'm not entirely sure to be honest. From what I understand though, is that there is a flag that you must enable to get up to 64GB, and you need to recompile the current PAE kernel to get that flag enabled. I'll see if I can find the link where I was reading this.
[16:13] <stat> Ok, my mistake. It's called "High Memory Support (64GB)" not "Big Memory"
[16:13] <apw> stat, the PAE kernel doubled the number of bits available to store the location of physical page, which allows you to have more physical memory
[16:13] <stat> I know what PAE is for. I've just installed it, but now it seems 3.5GB instead of the 4GB that it should, which apparently is due to this flag.
[16:14] <stat> http://www.larmeir.com/2009/07/enabling-pae-on-a-32-bit-ubuntu-desktop-supporting-up-to-64-gb/
[16:14] <apw> stat, not necessarilly, physical layout of your ram may preclude seeing all 4GB
[16:14] <apw> can you pastebin yout e820 information from your dmesg
[16:15] <smb> I think the issue is that you get 3.5G per process because kernel has to be mapped there too. but with PAE you can address all mem so the virtual 4G could be spread over different physical memory
[16:15] <stat> http://pastebin.com/evE63C7P
[16:21] <apw> stat, ok and how do you know you only have 3.5gb, ie. where is that being expressed
[16:22] <stat> /proc/meminfo
[16:23] <apw> can you paste the overall number pls
[16:23] <stat> MemTotal:        3600576 kB
[16:29] <apw> stat, none of this makes any sense.  the point of the generic-pae kernel is that that it does set HIGHMEM64G
[16:29] <apw> can you paste the whole dmesg please from this boot
[16:30] <apw> that blog post is simply not applicable, as the kernle you have should have the flag you are aski
[16:30] <apw> asking to be on
[16:31] <stat> http://pastebin.com/zLLZZLim
[16:43] <apw> stat, how much memory did you have on the -generic kernel ?
[16:43] <apw> i am suspectin
[16:44] <apw> i am suspecting from the physical layout that it as much less than 3GB
[16:44] <stat> Ummm, I can't remember. I'm pretty sure it was 3GB. It was definitely more than 2.5 if that's what your suspecting.
[16:44] <smb> or probably asked the other way round: how much ram is there for real
[16:45] <stat> 4GB. 2 2GB sticks.
[16:45] <apw> i am suspecting its 2.6 as you have a full G over 4 GB
[16:45] <stat> That... might be.
[16:46] <apw> or do you ... argle stupid hex numbers
[16:46] <stat> Hang on, I'll reboot it without PAE and double-check.
[16:46] <apw> stat, ok
[16:46] <apw> cking, this is 512MB right?
[16:47] <apw> [    0.000000]  modified:<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 -<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 (usable)
[16:47]  * apw needs a sanity check
[16:47] <smb> apw, But for that (4G) it sounds reasonable to have 3.6G left after taking away kernel, page tables and other reservations, doesn't it?
[16:47] <apw> cking, and this is a smidge less than 3 right ?
[16:47] <apw> [    0.000000]  modified:<PHONE_NUMBER>100000 - 00000000bffc6b00 (usable)
[16:48] <apw> so if i am reading this e820 right its is only advertising 3.5GB
[16:48] <cking> apw, you got access to the machine?
[16:49] <apw> cking, nope,but i do have the whole e820
[16:49] <apw> http://pastebin.com/evE63C7P
[16:50] <apw> but i think thats saying the bios is not advertising all the ram
[16:53] <stat> (Sorry that took so long.  So my motherboard is just crazy then?
[16:54] <apw> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820:<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 -<PHONE_NUMBER>09f800 (usable)
[16:54] <apw> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820:<PHONE_NUMBER>100000 - 00000000bffc6b00 (usable)
[16:54] <apw> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820:<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 -<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 (usable)
[16:54] <apw> are the 'usable' memory
[16:54] <apw> the first two are basically the whole first 3GB, then you have .5GB from 4GB physical
[16:54] <apw> so 3.5 in total
[16:55] <apw> sometimes there is a layout option in your bios to say where the ram will be placed
[16:55] <cking> 3583M useable IMHO
[16:55] <apw> but given the information the machine is offering the kernel is doing the right things
[16:55] <smb>  /me thinks there is also acpi tables placed
[16:55] <apw> smb, but those would be shown cut from the ram ... but its still not even there
[16:56] <apw> i suspect the ram is actually being placed under the io space and masked
[16:56] <apw> which is stupid
[16:56] <cking> if e820 tables are wrong, that's all you get
[16:56] <apw> [    0.000000] e820 update range: 00000000d0000000 -<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 (usable) ==> (reserved)
[16:56] <apw> i think that is the other bit being lost, i think that means its under the AGP apature
[16:57] <smb> hmm, maybe stolen graphics memory (on cheap cards)
[16:57] <apw> stat, what machine is this, we might find some help on if there is a bios wiggle
[16:58] <apw> cause you want different layouts for windows 32 bit and windows 64 bit ... so often there is a way
[16:58] <herton> apw: yes, a bios option like "Remap memory above 4GB"
[16:58] <apw> herton, right
[16:58] <stat> Uhh an hp machine of sorts.
[16:59] <stat> Do you jsut want a device list?
[16:59] <apw> worth rooting about in the bios then, or searching for "remap memory above 4GB" and "machine name"
[16:59] <apw> on google
[16:59] <apw> heh ... really its the bios infor thats intreesting
[17:00] <stat> So do you want biosdecode info?
[17:01] <cking> I have code to dump out the e820 from user space directly using the e820 BIOS call
[17:01] <cking> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=cking/debug-code/.git;a=blob;f=e820/e820.c;h=fc4721eb80e50a7491dac4a059f746019f36d49e;hb=6cb227ece5ef420af9b341025b6a5e49e2d0e232
[17:01] <stat> Will that be more useful if I reboot back into PAE?
[17:01] <cking> but I expect it will give you identical results as the kernel gives
[17:04] <stat> cking: I am confused by your code. I tried that makefile that came with it, but it doesn't seem o have an actual target for building it.
[17:05] <stat> http://pastebin.com/X0fVehMJ <-- biosdecode if you're interested. I'm going to fiddle with my BIOS settings as you've suggested.
[17:05] <stat> Thanks everyone for your help so far. :)
[17:06] <ppisati> lp#799805
[17:06] <ppisati> please accept my nomination
[17:07] <tgardner> bug #799805
[17:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 799805 in linux-ti-omap4 "CVE-2010-4256" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799805
[17:07] <tgardner> ppisati, done
[17:07] <ppisati> 10x
[17:13] <stat> Well, I couldn't find anything in my BIOS about memory settings or remapping. I guess my BIOS is just lame. :P
[17:15] <sforshee> tgardner, one of the testers that had reported that the new rt2800 firmware made his rt3072 work is now saying it's causing problems (poor performance, machine won't shutdown/reboot). Is that justification to revert back to the old firmware, given that rt3072 didn't work at all previously?
[17:17] <apw> stat, did you see an option for the size of the AGP apature ?  and if so do you know how much video ram you have ?
[17:17] <tgardner> sforshee, yeah, I think so. I should just get the archive admon to reject it.
[17:17] <tgardner> admin*
[17:18] <stat> Uhh, I did see a setting for video memory. It was set to auto, but could also be between 32-256.
[17:19] <tgardner> sforshee, perhaps you should send an email to the SRU mailing list requesting rejection of the Lucid/Maverick packages that are currently in the unapproved queue
[17:20] <tgardner> sforshee, after that I'll just reset HEAD~2 on those 2 repos
[17:22] <stat> apw: It looks like it's 256MB.
[17:24] <sforshee> tgardner, what's the address for the SRU mailing list? I'm not familiar with it.
[17:24] <tgardner> sforshee, uh, I forget. bjf, sconklin ?
[17:26] <sconklin><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:27] <stat> Ok, definitely 256MB according the memory range from lshw.
[19:00]  * tgardner --> lunch


[14:41] <tuxayo-webchat> Hi :) Looks like Ubuntu Studio might be a good choice to avoid as much hassle as possible to use a Novation Launchkey Mini mk3. (my friend went through hell to *not* manage to get working well on Windows. So I'm a little scared of what expect us on Linux)
[14:41] <tuxayo-webchat> Could there be an advantage using 23.04 vs 22.04 lts? Like if the version difference on Ardour or kernel or some other relevant software could make a difference in support. Otherwise, I guess the best bet to minimize struggle is to go for 22.04
[14:42] <tuxayo-webchat> > Like if the version difference on Ardour or kernel or some other relevant software could make a difference in support.
[14:42] <tuxayo-webchat> Or like a whole new thing introduced in the recent ub studio versions.
[14:45] <oerheks> try 22.04 LTS first, i had no luck with Novation launchpadX , only a wine solution
[14:48] <tuxayo-webchat> > try 22.04 LTS first
[14:48] <tuxayo-webchat> Thanks, if nothing worth going out of the LTS, let's go for that.
[14:49] <tuxayo-webchat> > i had no luck with Novation launchpadX
[14:49] <tuxayo-webchat> Hopefully a Launchkey is different enough and that will help. (or it could be enough worse XD)
[14:49] <tuxayo-webchat> > only a wine solution
[14:49] <tuxayo-webchat> What did you end up doing?
[14:49] <oerheks> Not using it on Linux...
[14:52] <tuxayo-webchat> ouch >_<
[14:54] <oerheks> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6ywqjtkr73t8vg/2018music.png?dl=0
[14:54] <oerheks> the akai mkII is much fun
[15:33] <tuxayo-webchat> In order to use Gnome with Ubuntu Studio. Is it really cleaner to install Ubuntu and use the Ubuntu Studio installer rather than installing Ubuntu Studio and install the ubuntu-desktop package?
[15:33] <oerheks> studio runs on KDE now, not sure that route is supported
[15:37] <tuxayo-webchat> oerheks https://ubuntustudio.org/ « Don't want KDE Plasma? Use Ubuntu Studio Installer on any other official Ubuntu flavor! »
[15:38] <tuxayo-webchat> The Ubuntu Studio Installer route is supported but I'm wondering that's really the cleanest vs Ubuntu Studio + ubuntu-desktop package
[15:39] <tuxayo-webchat> The installer has different thing depending on the major version so I'm also afraid to miss something https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntu-studio-installer/
[15:39] <tuxayo-webchat> And not have a complete setup for the audio part.
[15:42] <oerheks> one could setup standard ubuntu/snome, add the ubuntu studio repository ..
[15:46] <tuxayo-webchat> oerheks that's going even further out of track than Ubuntu Studio Installer
[15:49] <tuxayo-webchat> I'll keep digging on that.
[15:50] <tuxayo-webchat> Does anyone know what people on Linux usually use to play with **devices like** a Novation Launchkey Mini mk3?
[15:50] <tuxayo-webchat> So I'll try the same and we will see if that sticks.
[16:01] <rbatty> tuxayo - ive used various midi controllers and never had an issue with a single one. maudio keyrig, trigger finger, etc., and my m-audio venom synth can act as a controller when plugged in via usb and works just fine too.
[16:02] <NotEickmeyer> tuxayo-webchat: Going Ubuntu Studio + adding ubuntu-desktop would result in multiple desktop environments and packages with conflicting settings, so that's not recommended. That's why Ubuntu Studio Installer exists.
[16:04] <tuxayo-webchat> I'm reading that any midi over USB should be usable on Linux (for basic features). But I still don't find with which software are people playing ^^
[16:08] <Eickmeyer> Your best bet is to try the live USB to see if that works with your hardware, and if you like the software included.
[16:09] <Eickmeyer> Ignore the desktop environment if you want to use something else.
[16:21] <tuxayo-webchat> Eickmeyer
[16:21] <tuxayo-webchat> > Your best bet is to try the live USB to see if that works with your hardware, and if you like the software included.
[16:21] <tuxayo-webchat> I have the live USB, but I don't know which software to run to try to play something with the midi keyboard. That's how much we know about the linux music ecosystem ^^"
[16:22] <tuxayo-webchat> «Going Ubuntu Studio + adding ubuntu-desktop would result in multiple desktop environments and packages with conflicting settings, so that's not recommended. That's why Ubuntu Studio Installer exists.»
[16:22] <tuxayo-webchat> Thanks, ok that makes sense. I'm going that way. Since the person using the PC barely wants to use Linux and like nothing else that Gnome...
[16:22] <Eickmeyer> tuxayo-webchat: Try #opensourcemusicians. Quite a few Ubuntu Studio users in there that might be able to get you started.
[16:22] <tuxayo-webchat> Thanks a lot :)
[20:01] <DSB_HProject> Hi all, anyone has experimented an issue where some audio applications like audacity  can't be opened? Sytem monitor shows the process but the app doesn't open at all. I've noticed that I can open these applications with sudo but not as normal wayy, in addition, some other audio application like pure data works nicely.
[20:02] <DSB_HProject> by the way I'm on ubuntu studio 22.04 LTS
[21:12] <tuxayo-webchat> Crap, I have a half installed Ubuntu studio. I installed Ubuntu gnome, ran ubuntu studio installer, **but** it failed at some point because /boot was full....
[21:12] <tuxayo-webchat> Now the ubuntu studio installer tell me that all ubuntu studio packages are installed.
[21:13] <Eickmeyer> tuxayo-webchat: That's beyond the scope of this channel. The /boot being full is due to too many kernels most likely. Seek help in #ubuntu.
[21:13] <tuxayo-webchat> I don't find a way to retrigger the ubuntu studio installer process
[21:14] <Eickmeyer> You won't. You got yourself stuck with a full /boot which halted apt.
[21:15] <tuxayo-webchat> Don't worry, I expanded /boot and was able to do apt operation afterwards.
[21:15] <tuxayo-webchat> But the ubuntu studio installer still ended up failing so likely some operation wheren't done.
[21:16] <Eickmeyer> re run it.
[21:16] <Eickmeyer> It's just an apt fontend at the end of the day.
[21:17] <oerheks> i am sure you get some hints like ' apt install -f
[21:19] <tuxayo-webchat> "apt install -f" has nothing to complain
[21:19] <tuxayo-webchat> So apt somehow ended it transaction.
[21:19] <Eickmeyer> Then just re-run Ubuntu Studio Installer. It's just an apt frontend at the end of the day.
[21:19] <oerheks> and proper updates with apt dist-upgrade & reboot might help.. but this goes beyond the normal ubuntu-studio install..
[21:19] <tuxayo-webchat> Sorry, too slow to type.
[21:20] <Eickmeyer> oerheks: They're using ubuntustudio-installer to install ubuntustudio tools on ubuntu.
[21:21] <tuxayo-webchat> «Now the ubuntu studio installer tell me that all ubuntu studio packages are installed.»
[21:21] <tuxayo-webchat> But it definitely failed. unless only doing on big apt command, there might be missing work
[21:21] <tuxayo-webchat> in other words, it failed before finishing so when rerunning it and reading «all ubuntu studio packages are installed», I don't have much confidence in that.
[21:22] <Eickmeyer> tuxayo-webchat: All it does is install metapackages, so if it eventually finished via other means, then it worked via the other means.
[21:22] <Eickmeyer> tuxayo-webchat: What version of Ubuntu?
[21:24] <tuxayo-webchat> > All it does is install metapackages, so if it eventually finished via other means, then it worked via the other means.
[21:24] <tuxayo-webchat> Ok, great, hopefully :D
[21:24] <tuxayo-webchat> > What version of Ubuntu?
[21:24] <tuxayo-webchat> 22.04
[21:24] <Eickmeyer> Ok. Well, then that means the metapackages and their recommends got installed. That's all it does.
[21:25] <Eickmeyer> I asked because I completely rewrote it for 23.04, but 22.04's version runs differently, but not much different.
[21:26] <tuxayo-webchat> > All it does is install metapackages
[21:26] <tuxayo-webchat> I guess if I find in my apt history I can remove and see if the installer and be retriggered.
[21:26] <tuxayo-webchat> > Ok. Well, then that means the metapackages and their recommends got installed. That's all it does.
[21:26] <tuxayo-webchat> ah ok
[21:28] <tuxayo-webchat> > I asked because I completely rewrote it for 23.04, but 22.04's version runs differently, but not much different.
[21:28] <tuxayo-webchat> Ok, great thanks for writting it, very useful to be able to use other interfaces :)
[21:28] <Eickmeyer> To be honest, I didn't write the version in 22.10 and prior, it was due for a rewrite so I did it.
[21:30] <tuxayo-webchat> I was worried that after installing the kernel packages it would run config scripts or install other packages. Which then would have been left undone. But if someone in the know tells me there is nothing else done after installing the kernel packages then nothing to worry about then :)
[21:31] <tuxayo-webchat> our midi keyboard works with yoshimi :D
[21:31] <tuxayo-webchat> I was worried that it wouldn't be able to work on Linux at all :)
[21:32] <Eickmeyer> Nah, the kernel just installs a kernel. 'ubuntustudio-lowlatency-settings' does do some stuff, but when it finally gets configured, it should do what it's supposed to. If you're feeling ultra-paranoid, you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntustudio-lowlatency-settings', but nothing else you installed does any real post-install config.
[21:35] <tuxayo-webchat> I wasn't worried about the kernel, it booted after I rebooted to increase the /boot size. (which it booted even with apt no finished it transaction ?????)
[21:38] <tuxayo-webchat> So it the end, looks like the piece involved are quite robust to be able to basically not care and have the job 100% even with a full /boot ^^
[21:38] <tuxayo-webchat> *the pieces
[22:19] <tuxayo-webchat> thanks all for the help today :)


[11:26] <Chrysweel> Mikaela, can you talk me private please ?
[11:31] <Tm_T> Chrysweel: is it something I can help you with?
[11:31] <Chrysweel> Not thanks Tm_T I am looking for Mikaela ! :)
[16:00] <Mikaela> I wonder what was that about. That nick says nothing to me.


[08:39] <dimka> dimk
[08:55] <danwe> Good Morning, does someone tried the new Musescore 2.0.3 on UbuntuStudio?
[10:14] <zequence> danwe: Not yet
[10:34] <Galatheas> hi, are there some plugins to emulate drums in ardour?? like addictive drums or studio drammer??
[12:39] <danwe> zequence: I would love to know if you have the same problem that i have in it


[03:13] <lostson> hmm just installed unity and i must say i might could get to like this
[03:13] <spikeb> :)
[03:14] <lostson> it feels really smooth so far and once you learn all the keyboard shortcuts you can really fly with it
[03:28]  * spikeb is quite pleased as well
[03:28] <lostson> yeah i am gonna give it an honest shot and i found a really good article on things to add to it and stuff so that helped as well
[03:34] <lostson> guake fits in quite nicely
[03:41] <lostson> nice you can shrink the size of the icons in the left hand panel that makes it smaller
[03:42] <spikeb> i shrunk it on my netbook but not on the desktop heh
[03:43] <lostson> yeah i am on my laptop kinda permanent for now so shrunk it up with autohide
[03:52] <lostson> well time to make a trip outside
[03:52] <lostson> damn hotel's anyway
[03:56] <spikeb> ok
[03:58] <lostson> ok then where was I
[03:58] <lostson> hmm should i get to minecraft or keep playing with unity
[03:59] <spikeb> good question
[04:00] <lostson> i have gotten addicted to minecraft bigtime
[04:00] <spikeb> it is a very addicting game
[04:00] <spikeb> to say the least
[04:00] <lostson> one thing i did do though was purge banshee and get rhythmbox back in
[04:01] <lostson> yeah i have a huge castle built right now
[04:01] <spikeb> working on one myself
[04:01] <lostson> i need another laptop so i can play minecraft and mess with unity
[04:07] <lostson> time to update chromium daily
[04:11] <lostson> these keyboard shortcuts are great
[04:20] <lostson> ok minecraft time
[04:30] <h00k> HI everyone!
[04:47] <lostson> evening h00k
[04:48] <h00k> lostson: how are you liking/disliking unity?
[04:48] <lostson> so far its pretty slick
[04:48] <lostson> the keyboard shortcuts are nice
[04:48] <h00k> I didn't expect that, I'll be honest
[04:48] <h00k> but cool.
[04:48] <h00k> I also like it
[04:49] <lostson> I am gonna give it a honest shot see how usable it really is
[04:49] <lostson> if i can accomplish more things without the use of a mouse that is a big beneift for me
[04:49] <lostson> it does look nice it operates very smooth with compiz gives you that glossy all over feeling
[04:50] <h00k> it's true
[04:50] <lostson> i havent found a kbd shortcut for send application to Y desktop yet though and that one i would like to have back
[04:51] <h00k> I am switching between Ocelot and Fedora 15 beta on my netbook for bleeding-edge unity and gnome3 respectively
[04:51] <lostson> holding down the super keys gives the launcher some nice effects
[04:52] <lostson> I put fedora on here the other night for fun and performace was terrible
[04:52] <lostson> so the next night back went ubuntu
[04:54] <lostson> i didnt think i would get used to the launcher being there on the left so i tried the autohide feature of it but in the end i kinda like it there reminds me of my old window maker setup
[04:54] <lostson> would this work on one of my old PII's that I have buried away? probably not but there are other alternatives for that anyway
[04:55] <h00k> It might
[04:55] <h00k> work
[04:55] <h00k> I did autohide mine too, but I miss it
[04:55] <h00k> I have to change it
[04:55] <h00k> back
[04:57] <lostson> i am not sure about the menu's for my apps being in the top bar but am getting used to just hitting Alt and going from there
[05:01] <lostson> then again i never was a big mac user anyway
[05:02] <lostson> perhaps now that i need to relocate Canonical could hire me to work on this stuff full time
[05:04] <lostson> was trying to talk the wife into moving up near wausau I could always work for charter up there
[05:09] <lostson> guake needs to be updated to work better with unity though
[05:10] <lostson> i am not saying its the greatest thing since sliced bread but it defintely opens the doors to some crazy developmental ideas of which i have had a few already
[05:10] <lostson> i would like my launcher on the right though vs the left and move my clock over to the left im right handed so having it on the left confuses me
[05:11] <lostson> ok your not paying attention anymore i will shut up lol
[05:12] <lostson> gonna jump back into some minecraft
[14:27] <lostson> clearlooks classic is still my favorite gtk style


[15:04] <sakrecoer_> i have added 2 ppa to my ubuntustudio 14.04 including their public key. Software install nice and smooth. Now, when i go into "software &update" under "Authentication" non of those keys are listed. where should i find them, in case i want to remove them?
[15:09] <sakrecoer_> i found them here: /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/


[09:24] <Fudge> hi are there problems with the ubuntu one ubiquity screen, mine is stuck thinking. .. ...
[11:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all


[09:27] <mattymo> how do I configure my launchpad group to subscribe new members to it when they join?
[09:28] <mattymo> launchpad group mailing list*
[10:02] <wgrant> mattymo: It's not possible to opt others into mailing lists. Whether to subscribe by default or not is a per-user setting.
[10:07] <mattymo> wgrant, I realize that now
[10:07] <mattymo> the best strategy it seems is to make a group, wait for list to be approved, then tell users to manually subscribe so they can be prompted to join the list
[10:07] <mattymo> rather than add them manually and then tell them to subscribe to the list itself
[15:08] <voldyman> i am writing a bot to fetch bugs from a launchpad project, it will periodically fetch data, should i login_anonymously once and stay logged in for days? or should i login after every few hours?
[15:15] <dobey> voldyman: do you only want to access public data and not make any changes?
[15:16] <voldyman> yup
[15:18] <wgrant> voldyman: login_anonymously doesn't actually log in, as such
[15:18] <voldyman> ah, so no worries.
[15:18] <wgrant> It's all stateless, so there's no difference whatsoever.
[15:19] <voldyman> we didn't know about the ppa stats were available through the api, i just wrote a bot to fetch them once a day, http://aura.tripent.net/e-stats/
[15:42] <rduggan> heyo, I've a problem with an i386 jar build that I can't reproduce locally with pbuilder
[15:42] <rduggan> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/172376524/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.jvmtop_0.8.0-5~ubuntu12.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[15:42] <rduggan> (same failure on all series) - looks like an obvious one, the jar isn't being built
[15:43] <rduggan> Works on x64, and on the i386 pbuilder environment
[15:44] <rduggan> Any way I can get better logs out of Launchpad? Or, ideally, something closer to the build environment Launchpad uses?
[15:45] <rduggan> I'm booting daily builds in Vagrant, and I think I'm as close to the "getting set up" instructions as is required, but clearly I've missed something.
[15:47] <tintou> hi all, It has been weeks since I can't use Rosetta because of Timeout Errors, is this a known issue ?
[16:23] <dobey> rduggan: sbuild is clsoer to what lp uses
[16:23] <dobey> rduggan: looks like a packaging data issue though
[16:26] <dobey> tintou: i don't think so, but timeouts happen occassionally, more so for extremely large data sets
[16:30] <rduggan> dobey: aye aye, will pore over it again
[16:30] <rduggan> thanks
[17:24] <choffee> anybody know what's up with launchpad at the moment?
[17:24] <leitao> choffee, seems to be down here as well
[17:25] <leitao> choffee,  Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[17:25] <rewbycraft> So I'm not the only one who's getting that message?
[17:26] <dobey> yes
[17:26] <rewbycraft> Actually, it seems that everything that uses Ubuntu SSO is down. Can't login to ubuntuforums.org or ubuntuone.com either.
[17:27] <dobey> it's a known issue
[17:27] <dobey> and it's being fixed
[17:27] <rewbycraft> Great!
[17:28] <pdo_fn14> I'm facing why so hard to see launchpad now. What's going wrong?.
[17:28] <dobey> if i could change the topic i would
[17:29] <dobey> but yes, there is a connectivity issue being worked on at the moment
[17:30] <rewbycraft> Internal network issues (or just a server down)? It seems the front-facing load-balancers are still working just fine (sans their inability to contact the backend).
[17:30] <warren-hill> Is the launchpad.net server down at the moment?
[17:31] <kabersold> It is for me. Just tried to post a question.
[17:31] <dobey> sort of down
[17:31] <petan> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad
[17:31] <heyuguys> Hey, the launchpad site is down.  Any ideas???
[17:31] <dobey> yes
[17:31] <dobey> we know
[17:32] <petan> dobey: update topic then so other know :P
[17:32] <rewbycraft> Petan, he said he can't.
[17:32] <petan> wasn't here when he said that
[17:32] <sixela> good luck to repair our beloved hosting platform :)
[17:32] <petan> meh :(
[17:32] <petan> I was just in a middle of some uploads
[17:33] <rewbycraft> I was about to pull some source code for a package-rebuild.
[17:33] <dobey> yes we're all aware
[17:33] <dobey> final freeze is very near so everyone is upset :)
[17:33] <rewbycraft> Heh.
[17:34] <heyuguys> I'm looking for the wiconnect debian package.  Are there any alternative URLs?
[17:34] <petan> rewbycraft: yes I was too :/ have bunch of packages that needs rebuild
[17:35] <rewbycraft> petan: I'm mostly just rebuilding saucy packages for trusty.
[17:35] <dobey> heyuguys: debian.org?
[17:35] <dobey> launchpad doesn't host debian
[17:36] <heyuguys> the url I'm trying to access is http://launchpad.net/wiconnect
[17:36] <dobey> try again
[17:37] <choffee> Seems to be working again now.
[17:38] <rewbycraft> Yep.
[17:38] <pdo_fn14> Status worked now. Thanks
[17:38] <choffee> Big thank you to the launchpad admins.
[17:38] <warren-hill> Working for me too.  Any idea what caused it?
[17:38] <dobey> probably a DDoS
[17:39] <warren-hill> bye
[17:39] <heyuguys> Looking better now.  Thanks!!!!
[18:41] <voldyman> hey guys i am getting frequent request timeouts when loading ppa stats.
[18:42] <dobey> ok
[18:43] <jfi> voldyman, known issue.... I have workarounded by spliting the requests + cache of responses with start_date and end_date
[18:43] <jfi> voldyman, do the request, if you get a 503, adjust start/end date until it does not timeout... I did not find a better way:(
[18:44] <voldyman> ah, ok. thanks! i'll try that
[18:46] <jfi> voldyman, I don't know what you are trying to achieve, but maybe see http://wpitchoune.net/ppastats/ppa/otto-kesselgulasch/gimp/
[19:30] <forensickid> I have a ppa package and a I am looking to have it install on the users desktop. I am using the install file to place the other source files in fixed locations, though I am unsure how that works for placing the .desktop in the users /home/ */Desktop/
[19:31] <forensickid> *for ubuntu systems
[19:32] <dobey> you cannot do that from a package
[19:32] <dobey> you can only install files to system locations
[19:32] <dobey> if the user wants the icon on their background, they'll put it there
[19:33] <dobey> and #ubuntu-packaging for questions about packaging
[19:33] <forensickid> thanks - couldnt find the right one!


[07:27] <darknite_> assalamualaikumsalam wbt
[07:32] <fairuz> darknite_: w'salam
[07:33] <darknite_> fairus
[07:33] <darknite_> lama x chat ye fairuz
[11:28] <fairuz> helo rakan2


[03:19] <wendar> ajmitch: ping
[03:20] <ajmitch> wendar: pong
[03:20] <wendar> question about the harmonyseq package
[03:20] <ajmitch> yes?
[03:20] <wendar> it builds fine on Precise, and runs from the command-line
[03:20] <wendar> but, doesn't show up in the Dash search for apps
[03:21] <wendar> so, I dug in a bit, and it's not installing a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications
[03:21] <ajmitch> strange, as I've got it in the dash on precise
[03:21] <wendar> it does create a .desktop file
[03:21] <ajmitch> I see a /usr/share/applications/extras-harmonyseq.desktop
[03:21] <ajmitch> in the package I have installed
[03:22] <wendar> yeah, I remember it being fine in oneiric
[03:22] <wendar> want to sanity check the package in the ARB staging ppa?
[03:22] <ajmitch> I'll rebuild it on precise & take a look at why
[03:22] <ajmitch> yeah I'll grab it now
[03:22] <wendar> cool beans
[03:23] <wendar> it looks totally fine otherwise, and I'd happily +1 it for submission
[03:24] <ajmitch> just running through sbuild now
[03:25] <ajmitch> thankfully archive.u.c is a bit faster today
[03:42] <ajmitch> wendar: I suspect the patch for the .desktop file is wrong, which makes me wonder how it worked properly in oneiric
[03:42] <wendar> ajmitch: deep juju :)
[03:42] <wendar> ajmitch: I guess get it working for precise, and don't worry about oneiric
[03:43]  * ajmitch would guess phase of the moon
[03:43] <wendar> ajmitch: or, submit an update back to oneiric also
[03:43] <wendar> heh :)
[03:43] <wendar> tidalbugs
[03:43] <wendar> like heisenbugs, but more predictable :)
[03:43] <ajmitch> it's patching Makefile.am, anyway
[03:44] <wendar> ah, those are always fun