[08:38] <HermanDE> bnD: Do you use ntp as a server?
[08:38] <tracy> ive ran update twice and get the same error
[08:38] <B1zz> how do you change your leaving message?
[08:38] <redwolf> ReDeemer: It takes alot of space though, and in rare cases can cause conflicts
[08:38] <bnD> i wonder if morphix realizes he has more than one screen to work with..
[08:38] <bnD> HermanDE, to set time in boot
[08:38] <djs_2_6> Hey guys, quick dumb question - Synaptic has some updates for me, specifically new linux images and headers.  I have already installed these a few weeks ago.  Are these the same thing, or do they keep getting updated with the same update names?
[08:38] <revdev> tracy one sec
[08:38] <HermanDE> bnD: I just use ntpdate....
[08:38] <tracy> then upgrade tells me nothing to upgrade. ;)
[08:38] <bnD> HermanDE, its default on boot, grabs time from ntp.ubuntu.yadayada
[08:39] <revdev> tracy: wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg and then apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[08:39] <tracy> revdev, wget* at the commandline?
[08:39] <revdev> tracy that is from this page: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668
[08:39] <revdev> yes
[08:40] <bnD> hrm
[08:40] <revdev> and then sorry, apt-get dist-upgrade, not just upgrade
[08:40] <bnD> no the repos are fine
[08:40] <bnD> i wonder what morphix's prob is :/
[08:40] <molotov_> I'm having trouble mounting an old NTFS drive. I've fdisk'd it to 83/linux, but the old files are still on the drive and I can only mount it as read-only and cannot change the permissions.
[08:40] <bnD> molotov_, you cant write to ntfs
[08:41] <djs_2_6> Anyone have any thoughts on my problem?
[08:41] <molotov_> bnd: I know, I'm not trying to
[08:41] <bnD> djs_2_6, not i my friend
[08:41] <bnD> molotov_, ?
[08:41] <molotov_> bnd: I'd rather just wipe it, but I can't :/
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> molotov_: You can't just change the type in fdisk to fix that.  You'd have to actually format the drive a new filesystem, erasing the files.
[08:41] <tracy> is this bad: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[08:41] <tracy> ?
[08:41] <redwolf> ReDeemer: also, while you are in there, see if any of the linux-restricted-modules are installed
[08:41] <bnD> molotov_, why not? :P
[08:41] <raphink> djs_2_6: same name, diff version
[08:41] <HermanDE> molotov_: Uh...  Are you trying to wipe the drive?
[08:41] <djs_2_6> Also got an error that the updates were not verified, and could be unsafe...
[08:41] <bnD> morphix, sup
[08:41] <revdev> tracy try these steps: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668
[08:41] <HermanDE> molotov_: Then do a mkfs on the drive....
[08:41] <morphix> bnD: still no luck
[08:41] <bnD> morphix, you can do all that without quitting your irc client..
[08:41] <morphix> how?
[08:42] <raphink> djs_2_6: the updates on the kernel were not verified ??
[08:42] <bnD> morphix, pressing alt+f1 through f6
[08:42] <HermanDE> morphix: What are you trying to do?
[08:42] <molotov_> Man, I feel like a lump. I totally forgot to actually FORMAT the drive...um.... I'll be back if I have any questions :D
[08:42] <bnD> morphix, try it out
[08:42] <bnD> HermanDE, morphix isnt able to get xserver-xorg from universe
[08:42] <morphix> :o
[08:42] <morphix> neat
[08:42] <bnD> says pkg not found
[08:42] <bnD> morphix, yes ;D
[08:42] <bnD> morphix, you checked your sources.list?
[08:42] <morphix> yeh
[08:42] <djs_2_6> raphink - that is what it said, and that they were not safe.  I killed synaptic package manager, and now it does not display the error...
[08:42] <bnD> :/
[08:42] <morphix> its uncommented
[08:42] <raphink> djs_2_6: you're talking of updated packages of kernel-image and restricted-modules right?
[08:42] <HermanDE> morphix: Yep bnD knows about that...  :)
[08:42] <bnD> and you once again sudo apt-get update morphix
[08:42] <revdev> tracy: i hope that page helps, i'll brb
[08:42] <bnD> HermanDE, <3 lol
[08:42] <morphix> yeh i did
[08:43] <djs_2_6> raphink - linux image and linux headers
[08:43] <raphink> djs_2_6: ok
[08:43] <bnD> morphix, did you get any errors after updating?
[08:43] <morphix> nope
[08:43] <raphink> djs_2_6: well you know what these packages rae
[08:43] <morphix> none at all
[08:43] <raphink> are
[08:43] <raphink> djs_2_6: ?
[08:43] <HermanDE> bnD: Just a thought....  Have you tried to create ttys at 9,10,11,12?
[08:43] <lanjelot> is there a way to read again output messages of init scripts after a complete boot ?
[08:43] <bnD> HermanDE, lol i havent
[08:43] <djs_2_6> raphink - yeah, but I would not know how to verify their authenticity...
[08:43] <bnD> HermanDE, in inittab?
[08:43] <bnD> ill try it out
[08:43] <bnD> lol
[08:43] <bnD> brb
[08:44] <HermanDE> bnD: Yep.....
[08:44] <raphink> djs_2_6: these packages should only be gotten from the official servers ( archive.ubuntu.com )
[08:44] <HermanDE> bnD: If I remember...  You can have ctrl-alt-shift-f1....  I think it starts at 13....
[08:44] <raphink> djs_2_6: and if they are from the official servers, you don't have to worry about thier authenticity
[08:44] <morphix> good thing i have my mp3 player.. otherwise i would be bored as
[08:44] <raphink> djs_2_6: yet if you get warnings about authenticity, it might mean there's a pb with the key management with apt-get
[08:44] <HermanDE> morphix: try apt-get install aptitude
[08:45] <morphix> ok
[08:45] <bnD> HermanDE, no luck rofl
[08:45] <bnD> good thinking outside the box tho :D
[08:45] <djs_2_6> I have not changed any settings in Synaptic, and the only reason I knew about them was the little popup on the bottom of the screen...
[08:45] <raphink> djs_2_6: ok
[08:45] <morphix> "aptitude is already the newest package"
[08:45] <HermanDE> bnD: Have you tried ctrl-alt-shift-f1?
[08:45] <lanjelot> is there a way to read again output messages of init scripts after a complete boot ?
[08:45] <raphink> djs_2_6: did you get the warning on other updates?
[08:45] <tracy> revdev, its of no use. still wont install
[08:45] <HermanDE> bnD: Or ctrl-alt-fn-f1
[08:45] <djs_2_6> raphink - no...
[08:45] <bnD> HermanDE, should i add 13 first?
[08:46] <bnD> otherwise, it does nothing
[08:46] <HermanDE> bnD: Hey, I'm guessing here....
[08:46] <djs_2_6> raphink - any other ways to get the updates just to make sure they are safe?
[08:46] <raphink> djs_2_6: well then don't worry. If that happens again we'll see
[08:46] <bnD> HermanDE, ill try adding a getty on 13
[08:46] <bnD> bfb
[08:46] <bnD> brb*
[08:46] <oorah22> anyone know why post new kernal update from synaptic... i would lose gnome-terminal working (says it cannot connect to child process) and why acpi stops working?
[08:46] <raphink> djs_2_6: paste your sources.list in a pastebin I'll tell you if your updates are safe ;)
[08:46] <morphix> so why on earth can't i install x-windows, etc, etc??
[08:46] <Zen> I installed the new ATI drivers from yesterday (the ones in the repo are OLD -OLD-)...now I've no 3D.  Any ideas?
[08:46] <morphix> all i wanted was a totally fresh setup
[08:47] <morphix> with none of the normal desktop junk that comes with normal install
[08:47] <HermanDE> morphix: Did the apt-get command work?
[08:47] <djs_2_6> raphink - where is the sources.list?
[08:47] <raphink> djs_2_6: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <bnD> lol HermanDE i have so many gettys running
[08:47] <raphink> djs_2_6: copy this file and paste it in to a pastebin (NOT HERE)
[08:47] <bnD> HermanDE, the shift or fn doesnt work :(
[08:48] <B1zz> what are gettys?
[08:48] <HermanDE> bnD: Try ctl-f1
[08:48] <bnD> Zen, using ati or flglrx
[08:48] <HermanDE> BlankC: gettys are very good things.....
[08:48] <bnD> HermanDE, no go :)
[08:48] <djs_2_6> raphink - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7349
[08:48] <redwolf> ReDeemer: haveta reboot?
[08:48] <HermanDE> bnD: Next question is the keymap...  Are you using a funny keymap?
[08:48] <ReDeemer> didnt work
[08:49] <Zen> bnD: not sure what you mean--the 3D part of the ATI drivers is called fglrx
[08:49] <morphix> HermanDE: what apt-get command?
[08:49] <bnD> HermanDE, nope
[08:49] <morphix> aptitude
[08:49] <morphix> ?
[08:49] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok, phase 2
[08:49] <HermanDE> morphix: apt-get install aptitude
[08:49] <ReDeemer> says i need kernel tree
[08:49] <bnD> Zen, are you using the normal ati driver, or did you get the restricted module + fglrx
[08:49] <raphink> ok djs_2_6 that was an erratic stuff, nothing more... your sources are fine and you shoulldn't get authentication problems with them
[08:49] <morphix> HermanDE: it says its installed and already the latest version
[08:49] <raphink> djs_2_6: they are fully trustable
[08:49] <redwolf> ReDeemer: yes, you will need that
[08:49] <HermanDE> morphix: then try aptitude
[08:49] <bnD> morphix, type sudo aptitude, then hit enter
[08:49] <morphix> how do i 'try aptitude'
[08:49] <djs_2_6> raphink - thank you so much.  I saw that error and freaked.  I am a bit of a noob to ubuntu...
[08:49] <redwolf> ReDeemer: btw, what package is specifically asking for this?
[08:49] <bnD> morphix, ^
[08:49] <morphix> ok
[08:50] <raphink> djs_2_6: no worries ;)
[08:50] <Zen> bnD: I had been using the fglrx driver.  It is from August though and ATI is really improving as of late...so I downloaded the latest fglrx drivers from ATI's site
[08:50] <HermanDE> morphix: From a console...  as root... type in "aptitude"
[08:50] <graham> !azureus
[08:50] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:50] <ReDeemer> the latest nvidia drivers
[08:50] <djs_2_6> raphink - it just did it again!!!
[08:50] <Zen> bnD: They installed but appear to not be running correctly.  No 3D.
[08:50] <bnD> Zen, ah, no idea :(
[08:50] <raphink> djs_2_6: that's why I asked if it did it on other packages
[08:50] <n00b> OKay, with cedega.. what happens if a new game comes out? Do i have to redownload it all over again, or do they update it?
[08:50] <redwolf> ReDeemer: which apt package, nvidia-kernel-source, nvidia-glx, etc?
[08:50] <raphink> djs_2_6: does it do it if you try to install new packages?
[08:50] <redwolf> ReDeemer: or can you tell?
[08:51] <djs_2_6> raphink - it says "You are about to install software that can't be authenticated!  Doing this could allow a malicious individual to damage or take control of your system."
[08:51] <ReDeemer> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2
[08:51] <bnD> HermanDE, morphix doesnt know  how to become root ;P
[08:51] <raphink> djs_2_6: try to see if ubuntu-keyring is installed. If not, install it again
[08:51] <djs_2_6> raphink - not that I have seen so far...
[08:51] <tristanmike> The buttons on my cd/dvd trays don't work, is it possible to get them working?
[08:51] <redwolf> ReDeemer: oh, I see
[08:51] <redwolf> ReDeemer: in that case, the situation is different
[08:51] <ReDeemer> how do you private message btw
[08:52] <MrPockets>   / msg
[08:52] <morphix> err
[08:52] <morphix> wtf
[08:52] <tracy> so is there another way to install kde 3.5? this one just doesnt work
[08:52] <redwolf> ReDeemer: uh, hang on
[08:52] <raphink> bnD: sudo -i
[08:52] <raphink> that's better ;)
[08:52] <bnD> raphink, :D
[08:52] <JoeBlow> tristanmike, just right click the cd icon on th desktop, and select eject
[08:52] <bnD> raphink, oOoh
[08:52] <bnD> <3
[08:52] <raphink> tracy: another way than what ?
[08:52] <bnD> morphix, ?
[08:52] <tristanmike> JoeBlow, that works in Gnome, but I'm Kubuntu right now, and I don't have that option...:(
[08:52] <djs_2_6> raphink - I checked using sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring, and it said the newest version is already installed...
[08:52] <raphink> bnD: sudo su sounds like a dirty thing, while sudo -i is meant to be used ;)
[08:52] <HermanDE> morphix: from a different console try "sudo su root" then type in your password
[08:52] <bnD> morphix, did you do the server install of ubuntu?
[08:53] <joseph> how do I install java plugin?
[08:53] <redwolf> ReDeemer: or do you want a private chat?
[08:53] <tristanmike> JoeBlow, ...but if I could get the buttons to work....
[08:53] <raphink> djs_2_6: what are the packages that cannot be authenticated?
[08:53] <tracy> raphink, the steps at http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668
[08:53] <JoeBlow> tristanmike, oh then i dunno, ive never used kde, and imnot sure how to get that to work
[08:53] <tracy> my boyfriend told me i wouldnt be able to install the new kde
[08:53] <JoeBlow> tristanmike, it bothers my wife as well
[08:53] <morphix> bnD:  yes.. i got sick of the cluttered normal install of ubuntu
[08:53] <raphink> tracy: and what exactly did not work?
[08:53] <bnD> morphix, ok, same here
[08:54] <bnD> morphix, i just checked, the package IS in universe
[08:54] <bnD> :/
[08:54] <morphix> how do i select the stuff i want??
[08:54] <tristanmike> JoeBlow, I don't might the right click-eject, it's just not an option in KDE as of right this minute ;)
[08:54] <raphink> tracy: did you use sudo with the apt-get commands ?
[08:54] <oorah22> anyone know why starting up gnome-terminal works from an xterm prompt with a sudo call, but not as a regular (non-root) user? fails with a child process error
[08:54] <morphix> just hit enter on it so it puts a / next to it??
[08:54] <tristanmike> it's kinda "mac-ee"
[08:54] <morphix> (in aptitude)
[08:54] <raphink> djs_2_6: still there?
[08:54] <bnD> i havent used aptitude, i use apt-get or synaptic
[08:54] <HermanDE> bnD: morphix :  This is where debian shines....
[08:54] <bnD> HermanDE, :)
[08:54] <tracy> raphink, the actual installing. it tells me: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:54] <tracy>   kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed
[08:54] <tracy> E: Broken packages
[08:54] <tracy> and yeah, im using sudo
[08:54] <bnD> HermanDE, how does he select packages in aptitude?
[08:54] <raphink> bnD: me too ;)
[08:54] <morphix> i never knew there was aptitude lol
[08:54] <bnD> raphink, server install?
[08:55] <bnD> oh
[08:55] <bnD> i see
[08:55] <bnD> lol
[08:55] <bnD> :x
[08:55] <raphink> hehe
[08:55] <djs_2_6> raphink - linux-headers-2.6.12-10, linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386, linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686-smp, linux-image-2.6.12-10-386, linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[08:55] <djs_2_6> raphink - linux-headers-2.6.12-10, linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386, linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686-smp, linux-image-2.6.12-10-386, linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[08:55] <HermanDE> morphix: bnD:  Just use / to search  + to add and - to remove
[08:55] <bnD> HermanDE, thanks :)
[08:55] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok...as I was saying
[08:55] <bnD> HermanDE, thanks for the help, but im going to do a full reinstall
[08:55] <morphix> i can see the whole x11 package
[08:55] <djs_2_6> raphink - it says in the details that the new version for all of this will be 2.6.12-10.26
[08:55] <bnD> morphix, awesome
[08:55] <morphix> but not sure how to choose is
[08:55] <morphix> ok
[08:55] <raphink> djs_2_6: ok give me one minute
[08:55] <bnD> morphix, youll also want xfs
[08:55] <HermanDE> bnD: morphix:  U to upgrade g to get H to help.... I think...:)
[08:55] <bnD> for font support
[08:56] <raphink> tracy: try apt-get -f install
[08:56] <raphink> tracy: then tell me what you get
[08:56] <bnD> HermanDE, <3 ill bb soon
[08:56] <redwolf> ReDeemer: if you want to use nvidia's installer, you must uninstall all packages relating to nvidia
[08:56] <bnD> oh no!
[08:56] <tracy> raphink, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:56] <bnD> wheres my ubuntu discs
[08:56] <raphink> tracy: no error message?
[08:56] <morphix> ok its downloading and installing :)
[08:56] <HermanDE> bnD: Just try a reinstall of X.....
[08:56] <morphix> btw.. is there a i686 optimised version of ubuntu?
[08:56] <bnD> HermanDE, yea, true
[08:56] <tracy> raphink, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:56] <tracy>  is all i get
[08:57] <HermanDE> bnD: check out aptitude...   It is very nice....
[08:57] <bnD> morphix, get 'linux-image-686' i believe
[08:57] <HermanDE> bnD: Think of synaptic as a console utility....
[08:57] <bnD> HermanDE, ill check it out right now, brb
[08:57] <morphix> yeh apititude is like. neat lol
[08:57] <redwolf> ReDeemer: This means nvidia-kernel packages, nvidia-glx packages, and if they contain the nvidia drives, the linux-resitricted-modules packages
[08:57] <raphink> tracy: ok
[08:57] <raphink> tracy: now type dpkg -l kdesktop
[08:57] <raphink> and tell me the version number you get in the second column
[08:58] <tracy> No packages found matching kdesktop.
[08:58] <morphix> bnD: how do i get that?? just apt-get it?? or?
[08:58] <bnD> morphix, yes
[08:58] <raphink> tracy: is kde installed on your comp ? ;)
[08:58] <tracy> raphink, no, thats the idea.
[08:58] <bnD> morphix, or look for 686 in aptitude
[08:58] <raphink> tracy: oooooh
[08:59] <bnD> HermanDE, how do i remove ALL in aptitude? :)
[08:59] <specialbuddy> anyone know how to get dvd's to work?
[08:59] <raphink> tracy: I thought you wanted to _update_ kde ;)
[08:59] <raphink> upgrade Im ean
[08:59] <raphink> tracy: then type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <tracy> raphink, right. its a fresh install of ubuntu, my boyfriend said i wouldnt be able to install the new 3.5
[08:59] <specialbuddy> I have w32codec and libdvdcss2
[08:59] <HermanDE> bnD: Uh...  You want to remove everything.... or just X?
[08:59] <morphix> there is a very packages that connection timedout.. will it auto try to redownload them??
[08:59] <raphink> that will install kde
[08:59] <bnD> HermanDE, purge x including conf files
[08:59] <raphink> tracy: you will, just type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <HermanDE> bnD: underscore..... _
[08:59] <bnD> HermanDE, thank you
[09:00] <raphink> tracy: that will turn your ubuntu box into a kubuntu one
[09:00] <bnD> HermanDE, aptitude allows broken packages?
[09:00] <raphink> (i.e. kde by default ;))
[09:00] <HermanDE> bnD: It has the same sort of functionallity as synaptic....
[09:00] <djs_2_6> raphink - you find anything for me?
[09:00] <raphink> djs_2_6: I'm still looking :)
[09:01] <raphink> djs_2_6: wait a min ok?
[09:01] <bnD> HermanDE, i see
[09:01] <tracy> raphink, it says: Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[09:01] <tracy>  'Edubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) i dont have a edubuntu cd
[09:01] <djs_2_6> raphink - sorry, didn't know whether it was a long thing or a short one.  Thank you for your efforts...
[09:01] <raphink> tracy: ic, paste your sources.list in a pastebin please
[09:02] <JoeBlow> i cant get .wmv files to run on ubuntu, anyone got any ideas?
[09:02] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell JoeBlow about w32codecs
[09:02] <tracy> hang on i might have burned one somewhere here
[09:04] <redwolf> JoeBlow: watch ubotu
[09:04] <raphink> tracy: burned what?
[09:04] <redwolf> !codecs
[09:04] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[09:05] <redwolf> !easysource
[09:05] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:05] <tracy> raphink, an edubuntu cd, i have and its doing its thing.
[09:05] <raphink> tracy: it's not the best way to do it
[09:05] <redwolf> opps
[09:06] <raphink> tracy: did you actually add the lines to your sources.list ?
[09:06] <tracy> raphink, its not even using the cd, its downloading everything
[09:06] <raphink> as said on the website ?
[09:06] <raphink> tracy: that's what it's meant to be ;)
[09:06] <raphink> tracy: you don't need the CD anymore if you have an internet connection
[09:06] <redwolf> man, looks like ReDeemer went to bed...
[09:06] <raphink> tracy: you should just remove the CD line in your sources.list that would be easier
[09:06] <morphix> btw.. is there any chance of a text mode MSN client? like GAIM.. but only text mode?
[09:06] <raphink> djs_2_6: hold on
[09:07] <redwolf> morphix: GAIM supports MSN
[09:07] <redwolf> morphix: oh oh, nvm, I see what you are saying
[09:08] <robotgeek> morphix: centericq,pork
[09:08] <redwolf> ReDeemer: try it again?
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        because the kernel module was built using the wrong kernel source files.
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        kernel and that they are properly configured; on Red Hat Linux systems,
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' RPM installed.  If you
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        know the correct kernel source files are installed, you may specify the
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        kernel source path with the '--kernel-source-path' command line option.
[09:09] <ReDeemer> -> Kernel module load error: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko':
[09:09] <robotgeek> ReDeemer: don't paste in here
[09:09] <ReDeemer>    -1 Invalid module format
[09:10] <ReDeemer> doh
[09:10] <ReDeemer> sorry
[09:10] <tracy> raphink, ok i pasted the thing in the pastebin
[09:10] <raphink> give me the ilnk then tracy
[09:10] <raphink> s/ilnk/link/ sorry
[09:10] <redwolf> ReDeemer: eh, everyone get's their one mistake, google for pastebin
[09:10] <raphink> djs_2_6: I don't know how that can be really
[09:10] <tracy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7350
[09:11] <raphink> djs_2_6: trying to check if these packages were properly signed
[09:11] <tracy> its the only cool one there
[09:11] <redwolf> eh, that works too
[09:11] <redwolf> ReDeemer: new plan, use tracy's link
[09:11] <tracy> see? ;)
[09:12] <redwolf> tracy: very nice
[09:12] <raphink> tracy: we can make you a nicer sources.list I think ;)
[09:12] <djs_2_6> raphink - lol.  can I apt-get the updates and be safe, or should I just give up for now and try posting on the ubuntuforums?
[09:12] <tracy> <3
[09:12] <raphink> tracy: first of all, comment the first line (the CD one) by putting a # before the line
[09:12] <raphink> you can update safely don't worry
[09:12] <Zen> Hola
[09:12] <raphink> djs_2_6: you can update safely
[09:12] <specialbuddy> how do I install mplayer for the new version of Firefox?
[09:12] <Zen> a heads-up for people wanting to install ATI's latest drivers:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466
[09:12] <raphink> hi Zen
[09:13] <djs_2_6> raphink - then I am gonna hit the apply button...
[09:14] <raphink> djs_2_6: sure do :)
[09:14] <redwolf> ReDeemer: well, let's see
[09:14] <redwolf> ReDeemer: I think I know what's wrong here...
[09:14] <tracy> raphink, ok is commented.
[09:14] <djs_2_6> raphink - downloading...
[09:14] <specialbuddy> anyone know how to install mplayer
[09:14] <redwolf> ReDeemer: Even though I only got part of that message
[09:14] <specialbuddy> ?
[09:14] <raphink> tracy: i'm making you a nicer sources.list ;)
[09:14] <tracy> raphink, <3 thanks!
[09:14] <borisattva> does anyone here have a functioning Nutiful FTP mounted drive on their desktop?
[09:15] <borisattva> nautilus*
[09:15] <redwolf> ReDeemer: the nvidia package needs something a little...well, special
[09:15] <raphink> tracy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7351
[09:15] <raphink> tracy: use that, it will be more complete ;)
[09:15] <redwolf> ReDeemer: get to a terminal (window, CLI, something), log in as root or su, and go to the directory /usr/src
[09:16] <tracy> raphink, cool thanks!!
[09:16] <specialbuddy> does anyone here know how I can view videos that are on firefox
[09:16] <raphink> tracy: don't forget to edit as root (using sudo) otherwise you won't be able to save it ;)
[09:16] <djs_2_6> specialbuddy - xine
[09:17] <raphink> tracy: once you're done modifying the sources.list, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:17] <raphink> tracy: you should wait till kde is installed before doing all this though, it's safer
[09:17] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: you may also try mplayer + w32codecs + mplayer-mozilla pluhing
[09:17] <specialbuddy> well I'm using the new firefox so I don't know if mplayer will work
[09:17] <redwolf> specialbuddy: try this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:17] <specialbuddy> I have the w32codecs
[09:18] <redwolf> specialbuddy: contains directions for what you want to do
[09:18] <raphink> specialbuddy: install mozilla-mplayer
[09:18] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: i am not sure about the firefox 1.5
[09:18] <redwolf> robotgeek: it works for me
[09:18] <raphink> specialbuddy: that will allow using mplayer embedded in mozilla
[09:18] <specialbuddy> I don't think it works with 1.5 because it won't let me get it
[09:18] <tracy> raphink, NOW you tell me..
[09:18] <tracy> raphink, just kidding id wait anyway
[09:18] <robotgeek> redwolf: hmm, okay. i'll keep that in mind
[09:18] <raphink> tracy: hehe doesnt matter much ;)
[09:18] <redwolf> ReDeemer: are you ok?
[09:19] <raphink> ok I'll bb
[09:21] <MrPockets> how do i set up an FTP on ubuntu
[09:21] <MrPockets> compatable with winXPpro boxes?
[09:21] <ReDeemer> redwolf?
[09:21] <redwolf> ReDeemer: hey
[09:22] <specialbuddy> I can't get mplayer to install
[09:22] <ReDeemer> you getting /msg's ?
[09:22] <redwolf> ReDeemer: yes
[09:22] <redwolf> taht one
[09:22] <redwolf> ReDeemer: did you send any more...may not have gotten those
[09:22] <morphix> aah thats much better
[09:23] <HermanDE> morphix: Did you install X?
[09:23] <morphix> yeh
[09:23] <morphix> xfce is working now :)
[09:23] <morphix> only thing is.. i think i liked openbox better lol.
[09:23] <HermanDE> morphix: aptitude is pretty good.....
[09:23] <morphix> yeh
[09:23] <morphix> thanks for telling me that
[09:23] <morphix> its seems to be a useful tool
[09:24] <djs_2_6> raphink - all done...  btw, do you know of any channels other than ##networking for networking info in ubuntu?  I have never been able to talk to anyone on that channel...
[09:24] <specialbuddy> redwolf, how did you get mplayer to work
[09:24] <specialbuddy> ?
[09:24] <HermanDE> morphix: Some of use lived and died by dselect...  aptitude was a natural extension...  These graphic things are just plain weird....
[09:24] <tracy> raphink, you still here?
[09:24] <morphix> lol
[09:24] <redwolf> specialbuddy: I just used mplayer-mozilla, the mplayer package for my proc (k8), and loaded my codecs onto it
[09:24] <morphix> is there  a way to remove the xfce panel?
[09:25] <morphix> or put the xfce panel in the 'taskbar'
[09:25] <northie> Bit of a strange question, but does anyone know where the nvidia driver puts its logo? I'd like to replace it rather than remove it.
[09:25] <specialbuddy> where do I post things
[09:25] <specialbuddy> in postbin?
[09:25] <HermanDE> morphix: Check the control panel....
[09:25] <specialbuddy> !postbin
[09:25] <ubotu> specialbuddy: Are you on ritalin?
[09:25] <specialbuddy> no
[09:26] <specialbuddy> har har har
[09:26] <morphix> control panel..??
[09:26] <HermanDE> specialbuddy: I guess he doesn't like you....
[09:26] <specialbuddy> nope
[09:26] <HermanDE> morphix: Did you load the control panel for xfce?
[09:26] <redwolf> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:26] <morphix> ..??
[09:26] <morphix> lol
[09:26] <morphix> there is a 'Settings' when i right click
[09:26] <HermanDE> morphix: I'll take that as a "Of course not"
[09:27] <morphix> yeh lol
[09:27] <HermanDE> morphix: Sounds like a good choice...
[09:27] <ReDeemer> ok redwolf..I am at the /usr/src dir
[09:28] <fridge> what does /etc/X11/X normally link to?
[09:28] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok, now list the directory (ls) and look at all the header directories
[09:28] <ReDeemer> yep
[09:28] <redwolf> ReDeemer: there should be one for your kernel
[09:28] <ReDeemer> there are many
[09:28] <redwolf> ReDeemer: type uname -r to see what kernel version you need, just to be sure
[09:29] <redwolf> ReDeemer: once you get that, run this command (make sure you are root)
[09:29] <ReDeemer> ok
[09:29] <raphink> tracy, djs_2_6 : back
[09:29] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ln -s linux-headers-version-you-need-directory linux
[09:30] <Shinjan> hi folks
[09:30] <specialbuddy> redwolf, can you look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7352
[09:30] <redwolf> replace the middle placeholder of course
[09:30] <tracy> raphink, its still not installing the new 3.5, gives me the same error  kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed
[09:30] <tracy> E: Broken packages
[09:30] <djs_2_6> raphink - all done...  btw, do you know of any channels other than ##networking for networking info in ubuntu?  I have never been able to talk to anyone on that channel...
[09:31] <redwolf> specialbuddy: what processor do you have?
[09:31] <raphink> tracy: please paste the whole thing in a pastebin
[09:31] <tracy> i did apt-get dist-upgrade, apt-get upgrade, apt-get update and ate an apple and it still hates me.
[09:31] <raphink> what do you mean exactly djs_2_6 ?
[09:31] <specialbuddy> p4
[09:31] <raphink> tracy: in this order ?
[09:32] <redwolf> specialbuddy: try installing the mplayer-686 package, and give me the output of that if it fails
[09:32] <tracy> raphink, i followed the steps on the website i showed you earlier
[09:32] <raphink> tracy: the right order is apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[09:32] <ReDeemer> so..like this...
[09:32] <ReDeemer>  ln -s linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>-amd64-generic linux
[09:32] <raphink> not the other way round
[09:32] <redwolf> ReDeemer: yes
[09:32] <djs_2_6> raphink - I have all sorts of network questions regarding servers, managed switches, and networking, and everytime I have gone to ##networking, no one is ever talking, and no one will answer any of my questions...
[09:32] <ReDeemer> done
[09:32] <raphink> tracy: if you run apt-get update only in the end it won't work
[09:33] <raphink> djs_2_6: not sure ##networking is the place, it's not even ubuntu specific
[09:33] <redwolf> ReDeemer: once that is done, make sure you have a /usr/src/linux directory...then you need to make sure that you are ready to install
[09:33] <specialbuddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7353 redwolf
[09:33] <tracy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7354
[09:33] <tracy> ha! i win!
[09:34] <raphink> tracy: did I ever tell you to install kde ?
[09:34] <raphink> tracy: not that I remember at least ;)
[09:34] <ReDeemer> I see the linux directory...but itis highlighted and not accessible
[09:34] <redwolf> specialbuddy: do the same for the mplayer package now
[09:34] <tracy> raphink, no, i mean i pasted my pastebin after specialbuddy
[09:35] <djs_2_6> raphink - I guess I will keep on my quest...  For now, I think I should go and get my 2.5 hours of sleep...
[09:35] <redwolf> ReDeemer: do you mean it's light blue in the terminal?
[09:35] <raphink> tracy: well I mean I haven't told you to apt-get install kde... ;)
[09:35] <raphink> djs_2_6: hehe ok
[09:35] <djs_2_6> raphink - Thank you for your help tonight.  I really appreciated it.
[09:35] <raphink> gnight then
[09:35] <djs_2_6> raphink - Night
[09:35] <tracy> oh. thats the idea, though, right?
[09:35] <ReDeemer> No its red/highlighted black
[09:35] <tracy> to install it?
[09:35] <raphink> tracy: what you have to install is kubuntu-desktop
[09:35] <tracy> i have installed kubunutu
[09:35] <specialbuddy> redworld, what do you mean by that for doing the same?
[09:36] <raphink> tracy: did it install fine?
[09:36] <tracy> seemed to
[09:36] <redwolf> ReDeemer: uh oh...that middle placeholder you put your thing into...make sure that's an actual directory in /usr/src
[09:36] <raphink> tracy: why then you have kde. period ;)
[09:36] <redwolf> ReDeemer: have a sneaking suspision(sp) that it's not
[09:36] <raphink> tracy: tell me the version of dpkg -l kdesktop
[09:36] <redwolf> specialbuddy: give me the output of it if it fails to install
[09:37] <tracy>  kdesktop            3.5.0-0ubuntu0breez miscellaneous binaries and files for the KDE desktop
[09:37] <ReDeemer> middle placeholder?
[09:37] <raphink> tracy: see ? that's kde 3.5
[09:37] <redwolf> ReDeemer: sorry...the directory name after the ln -s
[09:37] <raphink> tracy: now you just log out, and log in again with KDE as your session
[09:37] <specialbuddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7355
[09:38] <redwolf> ReDeemer: it should pre-exist in /usr/src
[09:38] <tracy> raphink, oh. ok. i thought i had to install kubuntu first then put the new kde on top. sorry.
[09:38] <ReDeemer> I see
[09:38] <ReDeemer> should i make one?
[09:38] <raphink> tracy: kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE, it includes KDE already
[09:39] <redwolf> ReDeemer: no, it means that you for some reason do not have the linux-headers package for your particular kernel
[09:39] <redwolf> ReDeemer: (unfortunately, that means more apt mayhem...try to find the linux-headers package that matches the version given by uname -r )
[09:39] <ReDeemer> package manager says their installed
[09:40] <redwolf> ReDeemer: odd
[09:40] <fli7e> anyone have experience with cygwin and openssh?
[09:40] <tracy> raphink, ok thanks hon, im gonna try it out. =]
[09:40] <redwolf> ReDeemer: use that pastebin thing to give me the directory listing of /usr/src, and the output of uname -r
[09:40] <specialbuddy> redwolf, if I can't find mplayer in synaptic then does that mean that I need to do something with the repositories
[09:41] <redwolf> specialbuddy: yes, it probably does
[09:41] <specialbuddy> how do I go about doing that
[09:41] <fli7e> or better yet, anyone know of the irc channels for cygwin/openssh?
[09:41] <redwolf> specialbuddy: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories (if you don't know, probably not)?
[09:42] <specialbuddy> I think I enabled them
[09:43] <bnd> morphix, hows it going?
[09:43] <morphix> good.. i guess
[09:43] <morphix> just trying to work out.. how to remove the xfce panel..
[09:43] <bnd> ah
[09:43] <redwolf> specialbuddy: let's make sure, go here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:43] <bnd> so youre in xfce
[09:43] <bnd> good deal
[09:43] <morphix> and add stuff to taskbar instead
[09:43] <ReDeemer> http://pastebin.com/512635
[09:44] <morphix> i was using openbox before i formatted
[09:44] <morphix> i might put that back on
[09:44] <specialbuddy> that's for 5.04
[09:44] <bnd> morphix, how much space you using?
[09:44] <specialbuddy> not 5.10
[09:44] <redwolf> ReDeemer: command should have worked the first time...let's try it again
[09:44] <morphix> dunno
[09:44] <redwolf> specialbuddy: it works for 5.10 too
[09:44] <bnd> moritz, df -h
[09:44] <bnd> moritz, or from xchat /exec df -h
[09:44] <bnd> morphix, ^*
[09:44] <bnd> sorry moritz
[09:45] <redwolf> ReDeemer: get to /usr/src in a terminal, and type
[09:45] <redwolf> ReDeemer: rm linux
[09:45] <ReDeemer> done
[09:45] <SegaLinux> hi
[09:45] <morphix> 1017gb
[09:45] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ln -s linux-headers-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic linux
[09:45] <morphix> err
[09:45] <bnd> morphix, im using 590 mb with firefox,gaim,xchat,abiword, etc
[09:46] <morphix> mb*
[09:46] <morphix> lol
[09:46] <bnd> xchat*
[09:46] <bnd> yada yada
[09:46] <morphix> u mean ram??
[09:46] <PenguinOfDoom> How do I get dapper to generate a brand new xorg.conf?
[09:46] <bnd> morphix, hard drive space
[09:46] <ReDeemer> weird..its there now
[09:46] <morphix> 590mb eh
[09:46] <morphix> how the hell
[09:46] <morphix> lol
[09:46] <redwolf> ReDeemer: probably linux already existed, and we confused it
[09:46] <bnd> PenguinOfDoom, its usually dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:46] <ReDeemer> jah
[09:46] <bnd> morphix, i can tell you my friend lol
[09:46] <ReDeemer> it says its a link...
[09:47] <ReDeemer> anyway
[09:47] <SegaLinux> I'm new user in linux :) and Im trying to learn a little... anyone knows how I can IMPORT mails from PST (Outlolok 2003) to thunderbird?
[09:47] <redwolf> ReDeemer: yes, it is, we are kind of fooling the nvidia installer
[09:47] <SegaLinux> thanks
[09:47] <ReDeemer> gotcha
[09:47] <redwolf> ReDeemer: now make absolutely sure nvidia-* and linux-restricted-modules packages are not on your machine
[09:48] <ReDeemer> let me get rid of them
[09:48] <redwolf> ReDeemer: otherwise, unexpected things may happen
[09:48] <redwolf> ReDeemer: k
[09:48] <ReDeemer> even the default nv drivers
[09:48] <ReDeemer> ?
[09:48] <redwolf> ReDeemer: don't worry about nv
[09:48] <ReDeemer> or anything nvidia
[09:48] <ReDeemer> kk
[09:48] <redwolf> ReDeemer: jsut nvidia
[09:49] <ReDeemer> glx?
[09:49] <redwolf> ReDeemer: scrap it
[09:50] <ReDeemer> nvidia settings?
[09:50] <redwolf> ReDeemer: same thing
[09:50] <Madeye> guys, I have box working as a gateway, all computers in the company getting internet from it, now How can I monitor how much bandwidth each IP is consuming ?
[09:50] <ReDeemer> nvidia-glx: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[09:51] <redwolf> ReDeemer: can you pastebin some more details>
[09:51] <meepy> what is the package name for all the windows libs used for compiling?
[09:51] <bur[n] er> Madeye: capture packets and analyze them in a cron job?
[09:51] <ReDeemer> nm...got it the second time around
[09:51] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok, phew
[09:51] <Madeye> bur[n] er, isn't there any way to do it live ?
[09:53] <meepy> what is the package name for all the windows libs used for compiling? anyone know, would be a great help, hehe
[09:54] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok, now before you go installing it, one last thing
[09:54] <jacksparrow_> 'hi all
[09:54] <ReDeemer> yes...
[09:54] <redwolf> ReDeemer: Just in case you don't know (if you read the README you will), make sure to change your xorg.conf file...DO NOT LET THE INSTALLER DO THIS FOR YOU
[09:55] <redwolf> ReDeemer: it's rather buggy, and messed up my config file
[09:55] <jacksparrow_> I try new ubuntu (6.04), and I want to install mc, but apt-get install mc sad: E: Not find the mc package. Why? How can I install it?
[09:55] <ReDeemer> what kind of things will need to be changed?
[09:55] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok...hang on a sec, gotta make sure I'm right on this
[09:56] <timfrost> !tell jacksparrow_ -about universe
[09:57] <redwolf> ReDeemer: hang on, browser is freaking out
[09:57] <ReDeemer> kk
[09:57] <lJlolel> i made a launcher application, is there a way to make it open on a certain desktop every time?
[09:57] <fek> moin
[09:58] <timfrost> jacksparrow_, mc is in the universe repository.  See the message from ubotu on enabling that repository
[09:58] <jacksparrow_> timfrost, thx, I see it.
[09:58] <jacksparrow_> :D
[09:59] <redwolf> ok, looks like nvidia is having some server issues with thier docs page, so I'll go by memory
[09:59] <redwolf> ReDeemer: the file to edit is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:59] <ReDeemer> right
[10:00] <redwolf> ReDeemer: don't edit it now, suggest writing this down for after you install the nvidia module
[10:00] <ReDeemer> I know of this file
[10:00] <ReDeemer> just not sure what exactly to edit
[10:00] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ahh, ok
[10:00] <hydroksyde> something to contemplate: If GPL software is free as in speech, what's BSD software? Free as in Enterprise? Free as in Government Handouts?
[10:01] <redwolf> ReDeemer: in the Module section, comment out lines with dri or GLCore...make sure the line with glx is intact
[10:01] <molotov_> I'm trying to add my second harddrive to fstab, when I try "mount /mnt/hd2" I get the error that it's the wrong fs type, bad optino or bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, any ideas?
[10:01] <redwolf> ReDeemer: and under the Device section, change Driver "nv" or whatever to say Driver "nvidia"
[10:01] <redwolf> ReDeemer: and you're good
[10:02] <ReDeemer> ok...brb'
[10:02] <molotov_> redwolf: what file or area are you talking about right now?
[10:03] <redwolf> redwolf: /etc/X11/xorg.conf editing for nvidia stuff
[10:03] <LetterRip> is the Ubuntu packager/maintainer for Blender around?
[10:03] <molotov_> redwold: thank you
[10:03] <ubuntu> BYE
[10:04] <redwolf> Nooo!  My precious ubuntu...
[10:04] <fli7e> lol
[10:05] <redwolf> ReDeemer: Im anxious...
[10:05] <jacksparrow> timfrost, thank you, it were the good solution.
[10:05] <daschl`irssi> my preciousssss
[10:05] <molotov_> I cannot change my resolution to 1024x768. When I edit the sys -> pref -> screen res. section, when I select 1024, I can only choose 87 htz, which is silly for this old monitor. I know the monitor works in 1024 at 60htz, is there a way I can force or change this?
[10:06] <daschl`irssi> molotov_ edit your xorg.conf accordingly
[10:06] <ReDeemer> whats the copy paste site
[10:06] <redwolf> pastebin?
[10:06] <timfrost> !pastebin
[10:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:07] <lJlolel> molotov_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:07] <molotov_> daschl: I just browsed through this - the only options I see are modes, which are screen resolutions. Is there some way to add refresh rates?
[10:07] <timfrost> !fixres
[10:07] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:07] <molotov_> timfrost: thanks again.
[10:07] <ReDeemer> http://pastebin.com/512649
[10:08] <redwolf> ReDeemer: Thankfully, this is an easy fix
[10:08] <ReDeemer> ok......
[10:09] <redwolf> ReDeemer: for the sake of my fingers, your install file shall henceforth be known as ./nvidia
[10:09] <redwolf> ReDeemer: run this command instead
[10:09] <redwolf> ReDeemer: actually, first, run this in a terminal window, just to make sure
[10:09] <ReDeemer> k
[10:09] <redwolf> ReDeemer: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[10:10] <ReDeemer> hmm
[10:10] <ReDeemer> gcc-3.4 is already the newest version
[10:10] <scanwinder> how do i change the theme's on kde apps when im in gnome?
[10:10] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ahh, then you are good to go
[10:10] <redwolf> ReDeemer: use this command
[10:10] <redwolf> ReDeemer: CC=gcc-3.4 ./nvidia
[10:11] <redwolf> ReDeemer: when you go to install the driver
[10:11] <ReDeemer> ok...that it?
[10:11] <redwolf> should work
[10:11] <ReDeemer> brb
[10:12] <scanwinder> anyone know how to change the theme of kde apps when im in gnome?
[10:13] <scanwinder> when i change the gnome theme, kde apps dont change
[10:13] <borisattva> i think thats the limitation of dekstop specifc apps
[10:13] <redwolf> scanwinder: it's seprate, run kcontrol
[10:13] <borisattva> dont think you can change then unless you can find a gnome-thatapplicationname
[10:13] <scanwinder> redwolf: ok thanks i suspected i had to do something like that
[10:14] <borisattva> red: you can make kapps look like gnome apps?
[10:14] <bnd> i hate that mplayer-mozilla depends on xmms, i use bmp :/
[10:14] <redwolf> borisattva: you have to have a theme that looks like gnome...other than that, not really
[10:14] <Nameeater> !glxgears
[10:14] <ubotu> glxgears is probably To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[10:14] <ReDeemer> http://pastebin.com/512652
[10:15] <ompaul> bnd, and cosider that bmp is made from xmms :-)
[10:15] <borisattva> oic
[10:15] <specialbuddy> redwolf, I think I solved the problem
[10:15] <specialbuddy> I found a source list online
[10:15] <bnd> ompaul :x
[10:15] <redwolf> specialbuddy: good
[10:15] <borisattva> is anyone here using Nautilus built in FTP for mounting servers to the desktop via an 'ftp' icon?
[10:15] <kawax> !w32codecs
[10:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:16] <redwolf> ReDeemer: something wen't wrong, that command didn't take
[10:16] <ReDeemer> #
[10:16] <ReDeemer> -> Performing CC test with CC="cc".
[10:16] <ReDeemer> #
[10:16] <ReDeemer> -> gcc-version-check failed:
[10:16] <ReDeemer> sorry
[10:16] <ReDeemer> damn
[10:16] <bnd> AH!
[10:16] <redwolf> hmm...strange
[10:16] <ReDeemer> dudes...i suck at irc
[10:17] <ReDeemer> let me try agian... cc=gcc-3.4 ./nvidia
[10:17] <ReDeemer> right
[10:17] <redwolf> ReDeemer: no
[10:17] <redwolf> ReDeemer: case sensetive
[10:17] <ompaul> ReDeemer, I have done the nvidia thing and never got that setup before, did you instruction from the webpage that ubotu mentions below
[10:17] <ompaul> !nvidia
[10:17] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:17] <redwolf> ReDeemer: CC=gcc-3.4
[10:17] <ReDeemer> ah
[10:17] <redwolf> that explains it
[10:17] <ReDeemer> k..brb
[10:22] <odat> hi everyone
[10:22] <odat> anyone using dapper?
[10:22] <borisattva> odat: yep
[10:23] <borisattva> is anyone here using Nautilus built in FTP for mounting servers to the desktop via an 'ftp' icon?
[10:24] <redwolf> borisattva: I've done it for sftp...it's kinda broken by my experience
[10:25] <borisattva> thats the strangest thing. i kept reinstalling my breezy copy. every time it worked. then last time i did a reinstalled. added a whole bunch of apps, and now its borked.. i'm trying to find someone witha working setup and see what they have in their gdekstop config for it
[10:25] <redwolf> borisattva: I don't think it's working on either my desktop or my laptop...and both run totally different distros
[10:26] <borisattva> i'm under the impression that some pacakage i installed broke it. but i installed about 30 of them and some removed as well, so cant really back track it.. mydapper install has it broken too, but with a completely different error, so i dont know.
[10:26] <poningru> !ubuntuguide
[10:26] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:26] <ReDeemer> Well....
[10:26] <redwolf> ...
[10:26] <ReDeemer> It worked!!!!
[10:27] <redwolf> Yay!
[10:27] <ReDeemer> dude..thanks alot
[10:27] <borisattva> congrats :)
[10:27] <redwolf> hey, np
[10:27] <ReDeemer> damn
[10:27] <redwolf> (now it's time for sleep)...
[10:27] <ReDeemer> basically it was the compiler huh?
[10:27] <redwolf> well, that was the ending issue
[10:27] <redwolf> gcc-4 is really flaky
[10:27] <ReDeemer> kept telling me I had ver 4
[10:27] <ReDeemer> cool..
[10:27] <redwolf> yeah, it defaults to that
[10:28] <redwolf> well, enjoy your GFX
[10:28] <borisattva> i had the same probelm. in my case i had to do the CC= line in both root and user and only then it worked.
[10:28] <ReDeemer> well..its 3:30 am here...time for bed
[10:28] <redwolf> I'm going to do the same
[10:28] <redwolf> cya
[10:28] <ReDeemer> Ya..just wanted to play some et
[10:28] <ReDeemer> thanks for staying up to hel[
[10:28] <redwolf> lol, and look what you did :p
[10:28] <redwolf> j/k
[10:28] <cello_rasp> need some tar help here: i am trying to backup my home folder through tar... while i am sure my syntax is correct somehow it is not creating anything: http://pastebin.com/512659
[10:28] <ReDeemer> I worked alot with solaris in the military
[10:28] <ReDeemer> alot the same..but alot is different
[10:29] <redwolf> yeah, we have that here (university)
[10:29] <ReDeemer> Unix and linux that is
[10:29] <redwolf> lots of little nuances to keep you awake at night
[10:29] <ReDeemer> ya..
[10:29] <cello_rasp> any idea?
[10:29] <ReDeemer> you have a good one..
[10:29] <redwolf> alright, time for bed, cya later
[10:29] <ReDeemer> i'm sure Ill be idleing here forever now.. gb
[10:29] <ReDeemer> gn
[10:30] <redguy|work> !info winetools
[10:37] <morphix> hmm..
[10:38] <morphix> i have openbox installed
[10:38] <tester> jaja
[10:39] <morphix> but how do i load it from bash?
[10:39] <morphix> startx just starts up xfce
[10:39] <agiofws> hello
[10:41] <Agiofws> what is the  best way to stop processes loading at boot  in ubuntu ?  do i  chmod -x the apps in /etc/init.d  or do i  remove the links in the  rcX.d files ? which is the right way to go ?
[10:43] <redguy|work> Agiofws: the right tool for the job is update-rc.d
[10:43] <redguy|work> Agiofws: read it's manpage
[10:44] <Agiofws> redguy|work:  is it a console based   app ??
[10:44] <Agiofws> or a gui front end ?
[10:44] <redguy|work> Agiofws: if you want to do it manually you should delete the links in rcx.d dirs
[10:44] <redguy|work> Agiofws: yup
[10:44] <redguy|work> Agiofws: it's console
[10:44] <redguy|work> Agiofws: read the manpage
[10:45] <gavcos> morphix, you need to modify your ~/.xinitrc
[10:46] <Agiofws> redguy|work:  if i remove the links  how will i know what to add or remove netx time i want  to change something ?
[10:47] <asdss> what is the command to install .deb package? is that "dpki" ?
[10:47] <Agiofws> redguy|work:  is there a directory  where i can find what loads at  boot in /etc ?
[10:47] <foxiness> i want tool to help me monitor my monthly dial up time, like this http://www.timesheet.gen.nz/freeware.html,am prefer gnome.
[10:48] <foxiness> i can not found something like that on google or gnomefiles.
[10:48] <asdss> what is the command to install .deb package? is that "dpki" ?
[10:49] <ptlo> asdss: dpkg
[10:49] <morphix> gavcos, what do i put??
[10:50] <redguy|work> Agiofws: sec, looking for a doc for you to read
[10:50] <davidwinter> hey guys - can someone tell me where i can download the Ubuntu title font? the link on this page is busted: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle
[10:50] <Agiofws> does boot  go through rc0.d rc1.d rc2.d   at  boot  if you're booting up to runnlevel 2 ?
[10:50] <davidwinter> I need it for a banner today for my computing society - trying to get people to switch to ubuntu from windows
[10:51] <asdss> ic
[10:51] <ptlo> davidwinter: it's in the ttf-ubuntu-title package
[10:51] <asdss> thanks ptlo
[10:51] <davidwinter> ptlo: I'm on a Mac at the moment - is there any chance of a direct download from somewhere?
[10:51] <gavcos> morphix, replace startxfce with openbox
[10:51] <asdss> :D
[10:52] <morphix> there is no startxfce tho
[10:52] <morphix> empty file.
[10:52] <ptlo> davidwinter: assuming you can extract tar.gz on mac: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/ttf-ubuntu-title/ttf-ubuntu-title_0.1.orig.tar.gz
[10:53] <Agiofws> does it go through rcS.d ? redguy|work  ?
[10:53] <davidwinter> seems to be problems with the font
[10:53] <davidwinter> no opendata could be found on it, this is reporting
[10:54] <gavcos> morphix, try doing this: cat /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc > ~/.xinitrc, then edit ~/.xinitrc
[10:54] <redguy|work> Agiofws: AFAIR runlevel S stands for system startup
[10:54] <redguy|work> Agiofws: this is a good read for you: http://www.debianhelp.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3306
[10:54] <triceratops> How may I fill a bugreport against a package fron universe which isn't registered in malone yet?
[10:55] <redguy|work> Agiofws: you will find answers to most if not all of your questions there
[10:55] <pc7_> algun espaol?
[10:56] <jacksparrow> bye
[10:56] <Agiofws> whats tha app again ?
[10:56] <Agiofws> rc-update ?
[10:56] <pc7_> SPAII?
[10:56] <Agiofws> oh  ok ...
[10:56] <Agiofws> got it
[10:56] <redguy|work> Agiofws: update-rc.d
[10:57] <redguy|work> Agiofws: read that article, it seems good
[10:57] <pc7_>  SPANISH  PEOPLE?
[10:57] <Agiofws> i think   gentoo has that tool as well
[10:58] <gavcos> morphix, or just create .xinitrc, with the line "exec `which openbox` in it
[10:58] <osfameron> !es
[10:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:58] <pc7_> GRACIAS
[10:58] <maxtnk> hi
[10:58] <pc7_>  ES  QUE ES LA 1  VEZ K EM CONECTO A ESTE CHAT Y NO SE MUXO
[10:59] <gavcos> morphix, e.g. echo "exec `which openbox`" > ~/.xinitrc
[10:59] <jk_work> update automatically installed a new kernel, but it will not boot. Am I the first?
[11:00] <redguy|work> Agiofws: it's called differently in there, but might do the same thing
[11:01] <maxtnk> jk_work: what did?
[11:01] <liable> jk_work: check bugzilla and file one if there isnt one.
[11:02] <maxtnk> why UBUNTU so popular?
[11:04] <dc>   !      ?
[11:04] <redguy|work> maxtnk: because of it's quality and support of course
[11:05] <selinium> maxtnk, Regular six month releases, fantastic software, Great community support!
[11:05] <bimberi> and an irc channel that responds in a timely fashion :P
[11:06] <talios> selinium, but they got rid of the porn :)(
[11:06] <talios> I want my naked south africans back :(
[11:06] <maxtnk> what will update Ubuntu fligh2 on  fligh3?
[11:07] <rob1> they are still there
[11:07] <rob1> you just have to go to effort to get them (not worth it)
[11:07] <JoeBlow> anyone here running FREEBSD? Im curious of the advantages of using it over linux
[11:07] <obontu> hello, how do i create shortcuts/launchers without the arrow icon?
[11:08] <Toma-> JoeBlow, ask in a BSD channel
[11:08] <rob1> JoeBlow, thats probably considered trolling here :)
[11:08] <obontu> i've seen screenshots of people doing it, like creating a shortcut to their home dir without an arrow icon
[11:08] <JoeBlow> Toma- , oh, ok, sorry
[11:08] <maxtnk> what will update Ubuntu fligh2 on  fligh3?
[11:08] <cello_rasp> i can't see any such advantages of running it but there are plenty in developing it :)
[11:09] <selinium> talios, It is still there in the repos!"
[11:10] <obontu> ?
[11:11] <dbzdeath> for some reason alsa sound has just gone choppy and all i did was reboot ... oss works fine though could someone help me please?
[11:12] <maxtnk> that better UBUNTU or FREEBSD?
[11:13] <intelikey> for t in `lsmod | cut -f1` ;do rmmod $t ;done
[11:13] <Agiofws> K20rsync -> ../init.d/rsync <--- do i need this in  boot up ? what does it do ?
[11:13] <selinium> maxtnk, If you are asking quetions about ubuntu I would just install Breezy, the bleeding edge stuff is likly to break right up and until release
[11:13] <rob1> haha
[11:13] <CountDown> Hi.  I would like to have manual control of my network connections, but Ubuntu keeps on placing "auto eth0" and "auto eth1" in my /etc/network/interfaces file.  How do I stop it from doing this?
[11:14] <rob1> freebsd != breezy
[11:14] <zcat[1] > 'sudo apt-get install ubh' then pick a few good newsgroups and you can make all the nude-southafrican wallpaper you could ever want..
[11:14] <selinium> maxtnk, Everyone (almost) in here will say that Ubuntu is the best. in #freebsd they will say freebssd
[11:14] <intelikey> Agiofws it may be assoated with auto-update,  but i don't use that.
[11:14] <Agiofws> ../init.d/acpid , ./init.d/mdadm ../init.d/atd   what do these apps do in boot   do i need them
[11:15] <No1Viking> Anyone that knows what kernel to use with a Pentium M CPU?
[11:15] <intelikey> Agiofws less /etc/init.d/<blah>  and see what they do.
[11:15] <tr00nd> No1Viking: i686
[11:15] <Agiofws> hm...
[11:15] <obontu> how do i create a shortcut to my home dir on my desktop?
[11:15] <No1Viking> tr00nd, thanks!
[11:16] <maxtnk> logistical
[11:16] <intelikey> obontu on the desktop  ln -s $HOME home
[11:16] <maxtnk> selinium: you are a breeze did not update before flight
[11:17] <ldy> Hi, anybody has the experience of useing dual screen on T42?
[11:17] <Agiofws> intelikey:  what does rsync do ?
[11:17] <intelikey> well there is a gui way to do that also obontu, but i don't have X
[11:17] <intelikey> Agiofws  man rsync
[11:17] <CountDown> ldy: I have a T42.  What do you mean by dual screen?
[11:17] <intelikey> if you cant make heads or tails of the man page then ask,  k
[11:18] <ldy> CountDown, For example give presentation to others.
[11:18] <tr00nd> obontu: start gconf-editor, go to apps->nautilus. You can turn on/off icons like home, thrash etc there.
[11:18] <obontu> thanx
[11:19] <A-jay> ok
[11:19] <ldy> then you need connect a presentor with thinkpad.
[11:19] <ldy> CountDown, did me make it clear?
[11:19] <CountDown> ldy: Ah, I've had trouble with that as well.  Last time I checked (when I was still using Hoary), outputting to a projector only worked after rebooting while plugged into the projector, if I remember correctly.
[11:19] <CountDown> ldy: I haven't tried with Breezy yet.
[11:20] <selinium> maxtnk: I am using Breezy, i will not upgrade until the release candidate. :)
[11:20] <CountDown> ldy: Are you using the fglrx driver?
[11:20] <ldy> CountDown, restart xwindows has the same effect with reboot?
[11:20] <CountDown> ldy: I don't know.  I really haven't messed with it that much.
[11:20] <ldy> CountDown, Yes, I am useing fglrx, I see dual screen options in fglrxconfig. So I wonder if someone use it successfully.
[11:21] <tr00nd> CountDown: Are you shure there is no special key on you laptop for turning on and off the external monitor?
[11:21] <CountDown> ldy: I haven't changed my fglrxconfig at all.
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[01:49] (markitoxs/#ubuntu) nbound, but i also had a freeze on FRESH install
[01:49] (nbound/#ubuntu) maybe shotty disc?
[01:49] (markitoxs/#ubuntu) shotty disc?
[01:49] <Stork> if i have an executable (/home/alex/java/jad), how can i make it useable from any dir?
[01:49] (brenner/#ubuntu) peterdautry: as in you can't boot into breezy or xp?
[01:49] (nbound/#ubuntu) try dloading the iso again... and burn to a new disc
[01:49] <markitoxs> nbound, got 2,
[01:49] <markitoxs> an original one
[01:49] <markitoxs> and a copy
[01:49] <markitoxs> and both fail
[01:49] <nbound> both do the same?
[01:50] <nbound> damn
[01:50] <markitoxs> yep
[01:50] <markitoxs> i really can't understan
[01:50] <intelikey> hmmm just did a grub-install /dev/hda      and it installed grub ok  but did not generate a menu.lst      why ?
[01:50] <nbound> u havent swapped any hardware?
[01:50] <markitoxs> nope, it's a laptop
[01:50] <nbound> u can swap cpu and ram on lappy's ;)
[01:50] <markitoxs> now, i'm on 2.6.12-9
[01:51] <markitoxs> but 2.6.12-10 also fails
[01:51] <markitoxs> and 12-15 ?
[01:51] <markitoxs> also
[01:51] <nbound> damn
[01:51] <markitoxs> all of them
[01:51] <peterdautry> well brenner there is a catch
[01:51] <markitoxs> even 686-smp
[01:51] <gavcos> Stork, sudo ln -s /home/alex/java/jad /usr/bin/jad
[01:51] <peterdautry> that machine had a mandrake installation
[01:51] <nbound> smp is for multi cpu configs
[01:51] <Stork> ah, thanks gavcos
[01:51] <markitoxs> someone wrote it could be a X bug
[01:52] <morphix> i added 1280x1024 to xorg.conf but when i do Ctrl + Alt + Plus it doesnt go to that res
[01:52] <markitoxs> from the nvidia driver maybe
[01:52] <peterdautry> which was wiped off, however the user continued to choose "windows" at boot to boot into windows
[01:52] <nbound> markitoxs, yeah but then others would be affected...
[01:52] <brenner> peterdautry: post your menu.lst to a pastebin
[01:52] <markitoxs> but i've been using it for 7 months without any problem
[01:52] <markitoxs> nbound, that's what i though
[01:52] <intelikey> i would have thought that one of the files it would install would be a /boot/grub/menu.lst  but there is no such file,  is this normal ?
[01:52] <peterdautry> how do i get to menu.lst ?
[01:52] <nbound> markitoxs, and i use the nvidia drivers from nvidia no probs :P
[01:52] <markitoxs> yeh, u're right
[01:52] <markitoxs> i'm very annoyed of that
[01:53] <markitoxs> i can't find out the problem
[01:53] <brenner> peterdautry: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <nbound> markitoxs, well if uve changed nothing... and its unstable id balme your hardware
[01:53] <intelikey> peterdautry  is it grub or lilo    i know that mandrake defaulted to lilo
[01:53] <nbound> blame*
[01:53] <markitoxs> nbound, can u wait 10 min?
[01:54] <stamen81> hello
[01:54] <nbound> markitoxs, no worries
[01:54] <markitoxs> brb
[01:54] <nbound> stamen81, ask ur q...
[01:54] <stamen81> Are all of you from the forum of Ubuntu
[01:54] <nbound> nope
[01:55] <stamen81> what is nope
[01:55] <stamen81> I am from Bulgaria
[01:55] <nbound> nope = no
[01:55] <stamen81> ok
[01:55] <stamen81> :)
[01:55] <intelikey> well anyone care to send me your menu.lst  for a template ?
[01:55] <stamen81> and I am a big fan of this distro
[01:55] <nbound> kewl :)
[01:56] <intelikey> not being familear with grub a template would be nice
[01:56] <stamen81> so this the place where I can receive fast answer for my questions
[01:56] <nbound> stamen81, yep
[01:56] <stamen81> super
[01:56] <stamen81> :)
[01:56] <nbound> :P
[01:56] <intelikey> anyone ?
[01:57] <stamen81> OK, I will ask one question now
[01:57] <nbound> ubotu tell intelikey about grub
[01:57] <stamen81> how can I activate AGP support
[01:57] <stamen81> for ATI graphic card
[01:57] <nbound> stamen81, i know theres something to do with that, on the nvidia site, id imagine the same for ATI
[01:57] <stamen81> I had installed the drivers, but I can't activate AGP
[01:58] <nbound> or perhaps bundled with the ATI drivers....
[01:59] <stamen81> I don't want to use their fglrx tool
[01:59] <stamen81> is there other way to activate it
[01:59] <nbound> stamen81, then dload the drivers from ATI and compile them yourself, thats what i do for my nvidia drivers
[02:00] <nbound> and that way u'll have newer drivers... the ones in synaptic are a few months old
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> hiya!
[02:00] <stamen81> I compile them, and I had install them, but now, I can't turn on the TV-out, and AGP support
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> You Bun, Too!
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> @@@)y,,.\\\\.....*".*@.@yTime. *..*.
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> @@@@)%o==|| >>>..For@A Trip....
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> @@@)y''.////...*.....To The@Moon!...
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> Wowser!
[02:01] <SteveGibbs> how are you all?
[02:01] <stamen81> very good
[02:01] <stamen81> :)
[02:01] <nbound> stamen81, check if a readme came with them.... or check the ATI site for installation instructions
[02:01] <nbound> stamen81, id imagine theyd almost definately have something somewhere about activating AGP
[02:01] <stamen81> They have very poor information, and not so good support for their drivers
[02:02] <nbound> stamen81, well the best cure would be to buy nvidia :P hehe
[02:02] <stamen81> OK, I will look again
[02:02] <stamen81> I don't think so
[02:02] <stamen81> :)
[02:02] <nbound> :o
[02:02] <nbound> :P
[02:02] <stamen81> I had problems with one NVidia
[02:02] <stamen81> with their cooling systems
[02:02] <nbound> ive had problems with every ATI ive had =/
[02:03] <stamen81> the cooler is very rare
[02:03] <nbound> where is everyone tonight..... its so wuiet in here
[02:04] <nbound> quiet*
[02:04] <gimmulf_> Anyone there with mac experience (ppc) ?
[02:04] <gimmulf_> really need some serious help here
[02:04] <nbound> gimmulf_, nope, but ill do my best if u ask anyway
[02:04] <dante_> mmm
[02:05] <nbound> dante_, mmm?
[02:05] <gimmulf_> I just got a powerpc but the one who sold it hasnt removed his user and it asks for that when i try to install a new OS on it, dont know what to do and i can reach the one who sold the computer
[02:05] <dante_> ciauz
[02:05] <gimmulf_> i cant reach...
[02:05] <dante_> emm...I m italian
[02:05] <dante_> italian
[02:05] <gimmulf_> So how do i install a new OS without the password?
[02:05] <nbound> !it
[02:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:06] <dante_> ah..
[02:06] <nbound> hehe :P
[02:06] <dante_> d'ho
[02:06] <Stork> how can i get all the kde programs to not show up in my Applications menu on gnome?
[02:06] <nbound> gimmulf_, id imagine there would be some hacker tool to get around it... but no i dont know anyway of doin it
[02:07] <nbound> Stork, u could add them yourself?
[02:07] <dante_> .......uff...
[02:07] <jhawk> gimmulf_ pop bios (i.e. clear same with board jumper 'clears bios password')
[02:08] <Stork> nbound, i mean get rid of*
[02:08] <gimmulf_> jhawk:  its just the admin password i think
[02:08] <nbound> Stork, ohhh sorry (its midnight here so im a lil worse for wear) ummm remove them yourself then ;)
[02:08] <dante_> ciauz io vadooo
[02:08] <dante_> eh eh eh
[02:08] <jeremywhiting> hi all, anyone here know exim/dovecot very well?
[02:08] <Stork> oh ok
[02:09] <nbound> jeremywhiting, nope :(
[02:09] <Ng> jeremywhiting: I like to think so :)
[02:09] <jeremywhiting> I have them both installed and it seems like everything is working ok, but /var/mail/username just keeps getting bigger and bigger
[02:09] <jeremywhiting> is that normal
[02:09] <nbound> only if ur getting mail :P
[02:09] <jeremywhiting> it's like my imap server deletes the messages from /home/username/mail but not from /var/mail/username
[02:10] <jeremywhiting> but when I delete messages that file never gets any smaller
[02:10] <gimmulf_> jhawk:  solved it, just held down C when booting up cd and then reset password :)
[02:10] <Ng> jeremywhiting: is exim deliverying to /var/mail or /home/username?
[02:10] <jhawk> cool
[02:10] <jeremywhiting> Ng, how do I tell?
[02:11] <jeremywhiting> I think to /var/mail
[02:11] <Ng> jeremywhiting: in the exim config
[02:11] <jeremywhiting> cause that file get's bigger' then a few minutes later /home/username gets the same messages
[02:12] <Ng> jeremywhiting: hmm, well if you want to put your exim config in a pastebin I can have a look?
[02:12] <munzir> hi sirs, I installed viewcvs in ubuntu but the images don't show, should I add aliases manually or what?
[02:12] <NiklasH_work> hi, anyone getting afs to work on ubuntu?
[02:12] <jeremywhiting> you mean /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf or /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated ?
[02:12] <NiklasH_work> openafs-client, that is
[02:13] <nbound> hmmm anyone know if theres a loki installer for san andreas?
[02:14] <jeremywhiting> Ng?
[02:14] <nbound> as in GTA: San Andreas
[02:14] <Ng> jeremywhiting: probably the update-exim4.conf
[02:14] <jeremywhiting> ok
[02:14] <markitoxs> nbound, i'm back
[02:14] <Ng> jeremywhiting: will you be about in an hour or so? I need to go :/
[02:14] <nbound> markitoxs, ok
[02:14] <markitoxs> but, what kind of hardware problem could it be?
[02:15] <markitoxs> i'don't know how to debug it
[02:15] <markitoxs> to find where the problem is
[02:15] <nbound> markitoxs, i dont know...id assume ram but u said memtest came up clear
[02:15] <jeremywhiting> http://pastebin.ca/37408
[02:15] <markitoxs> i'm gonna do it again..
[02:15] <jeremywhiting> though there's not much there
[02:15] <markitoxs> but it's too strange
[02:15] <markitoxs> i had the system, perfect
[02:15] <markitoxs> and 10 min later, when it's reinstalled, it starts crashing...
[02:16] <nbound> markitoxs, first rule, if its RAMdom, blame the RAM :P
[02:16] <markitoxs> lol
[02:16] <markitoxs> the point is that no one has mencioned the ram in the forums i read
[02:17] <markitoxs> the two directions
[02:17] <Alek35skm> how can I disable status messages in xchat (sorry for this question is not for linux)
[02:17] <markitoxs> were, kernel bug, or x bug
[02:17] <Alek35skm> for example nick has qiit, or nick.. has joined
[02:17] <nbound> well theres not much else that could do it... only shotty power supply, or hard drive gonna fail
[02:18] <nbound> markitoxs, try putting another (non-linux) OS on it...
[02:18] <markitoxs> nbound, uf.... no more win installations pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:18] <nbound> that would be able to rule out both X and kernel bugs
[02:18] <markitoxs> i'm gonna install mac os x86
[02:18] <markitoxs> lol
[02:18] <nbound> lol
[02:18] <policedarling> guys, I told synaptic to install gcc....... and.... it after installing, I couldn't run gcc!
[02:19] <markitoxs> policedarling, i couldn t neither, use g++
[02:19] <nbound> just as long as its not linux... hell even DOS, just to see if ur system is still unstable
[02:19] <policedarling> same thing?
[02:19] <markitoxs> policedarling, yes,
[02:19] <nbound> policedarling, got build essentials?
[02:19] <policedarling> I don't know.... I just moved in from gentoo
[02:19] <markitoxs> nbound, since i use nv drivers instead of nvidia, seems to be stable..
[02:19] <decaf> policedarling: install "build-essential"
[02:20] <nbound> try searching for build-essential
[02:20] <scanwinder> I just installed and got my ati radeon drivers working(eventually) and now when i go to open xawtv, im gettin some fontset error, i pasted it at http://pastebin.com/512902 can someone please have a look at it for me and if possible tell me what i need to do to resolve the problem?
[02:20] <markitoxs> 3 hours uptime, no errors...
[02:20] <policedarling> oh....
[02:20] <nbound> damn you decaf :P
[02:20] <nbound> markitoxs, well it could be those drivers
[02:20] <markitoxs> but it's so strange...
[02:20] <jeremywhiting> Ng: any ideas?
[02:20] <markitoxs> cuz no one else seems to be affected..
[02:21] <nbound> markitoxs, i get a black screen with those nv drivers :P
[02:21] <jeremywhiting> it's not a big deal I guess, I still get all my email so it's not critical just thought it was strange
[02:21] <markitoxs> lol
[02:21] <matzee> hi - where can I change or disable the screen saver without using the UI?
[02:21] <idefix_> Stamen81 do you speak fluent italian?
[02:21] <markitoxs> nbound, is there a way to get dual view in nv, no, no?
[02:21] <nbound> markitoxs, i doubt it
[02:22] <nbound> markitoxs, did u use the nvidia-glx package or the drivers from nvidia before?
[02:22] <markitoxs> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:22] <markitoxs> i did nvidia-glx
[02:22] <policedarling> one last question: is there a package for the Linux Kernel sources?
[02:22] <policedarling> i'd like to get frequency scaling working
[02:23] <policedarling> linux-kernel-headers didn't give me anything in /usr/src/linuz
[02:23] <nbound> MAYBE try the actual nvidia drivers... but u gotta compile em yourself, so ur gonna need buil essential
[02:23] <nbound> build*
[02:23] <markitoxs> mmm
[02:23] <nbound> policedarling, try linux-headers
[02:23] <idefix_> normally if you mark all upgrades of an entry it should turn green, no?
[02:24] <nbound> idefix_, yep
[02:24] <nbound> and red for uninstall
[02:24] <j2daosh> where is my "syslog" at?
[02:24] <j2daosh> i did a search for it and i couldn't find this "syslog" that mysql is telling me to look at because it failed to start
[02:24] <nbound> /var/log/syslog ;)
[02:25] <idefix_> so the first time you select something you mark all upgrades, the second time all the installs?
[02:25] <nbound> j2daosh, in future goto ur CLI and type "locate <whatever>"
[02:25] <policedarling> thanks a bunch guys!
[02:25] <decaf> policedarling: there is a package called linux-source. also try make-kpkg script from package "kernel-package".
[02:25] <markitoxs> nbound, thx 4 everytinhg, gotta go to study, i'l give a few days with nv drivers to check if it crashes
[02:25] <j2daosh> locate? thats it?
[02:25] <decaf> policedarling: MUCH better then genkernel
[02:25] <markitoxs> and il try the new nvidia drivers
[02:26] <nbound> markitoxs, no worries mate
[02:26] <markitoxs> nbound, no seriously, i appreciate
[02:26] <nbound> j2daosh, yep
[02:26] <markitoxs> cya mate
[02:26] <radeon_> hey mans...the ubuntu have perl suport?
[02:26] <policedarling> ah..... finally, savage DRI works without hassle in 2.6.15 and Xorg 7.
[02:26] <decaf> radeon_: yes, installed by default
[02:26] <j2daosh> holy crap... this is a huge file... can i set it up in cron to delete it once a week?
[02:26] <j2daosh> is that a smart idea?
[02:26] <radeon_> [decaf] : ok
[02:27] <policedarling> I used to spend hours getting DRI to work back then. Oh well. I'm off to regain those lost hours. Bye.
[02:27] <decaf> policedarling: after I bought an nvidia
[02:27] <policedarling> yeah?
[02:27] <jeremywhiting> j2daosh: install logrotate
[02:27] <policedarling> (laptop... can't change vidcard)
[02:27] <j2daosh> logrotate?\
[02:27] <j2daosh> what does that do?
[02:27] <jeremywhiting> it will do that for you and keep as many backup weeks as you specify (default 4 I think) but compress the backups
[02:28] <jeremywhiting> of all your /var/log files
[02:28] <j2daosh> oh... sweet
[02:28] <nbound> j2daosh, this one might also be it /etc/syslog.conf
[02:28] <Sp4rKy> what's the command to take a screenshot ?
[02:28] <nbound> Sp4rKy, Print Screen key
[02:28] <j2daosh> i already have it installed? maybe by default... how do i call it?
[02:28] <pholie> hi can i browse cvs/svn sources of ubuntu?
[02:29] <j2daosh> no it was the /var/log/syslog one
[02:29] <pholie> i want to see how some packages are built
[02:29] <Sp4rKy> nbound, sorry ?
[02:29] <j2daosh> now i just have to understand what the errors are lol
[02:29] <nbound> Sp4rKy, press the "Print Screen" key
[02:29] <scanwinder> can someone please help me with a fontset problem im having with xawtv?? i put the error on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/512902
[02:29] <scanwinder> i dont know howto fix these fontset problems
[02:29] <scanwinder> i keep getting them
[02:30] <scanwinder> since i installed my ati drivers
[02:30] <Sp4rKy> nbound, i'm over openbox
[02:30] <nbound> Sp4rKy, eh?
[02:30] <chemical_ds> hey folks. when installing ubuntu, i chose to "configure networking at a later time". i have correctly edited /etc/network/interfaces, and recieved an ip address + dns from dhcp server. however i can't access the internet. is there something else i need to configure?
[02:30] <Sp4rKy> nbound, i haven't set key shortcuts
[02:31] <gavcos> Sp4rKy, have you installed ImageMagick?
[02:31] <nbound> Sp4rKy, its default
[02:31] <nbound> Sp4rKy, it will work on ur fresh install of ubuntu
[02:31] <gimmulf_> Anyone with ppc experience would like to ask a question
[02:32] <decaf> chemical_ds: what's the output of route and ifconfig commands?
[02:32] <nbound> chemical_ds, what does it say in System->Admin->Networking?
[02:32] <nbound> is ur ethernet connection active?
[02:32] <chemical_ds> decaf, the ifconfig output is 100% perfect
[02:32] <chemical_ds> nbound, i'm not sure, i dont have any GUI installed
[02:32] <decaf> chemical_ds: route? etc/resolv.conf
[02:33] <nbound> ohhh... =/
[02:33] <rendi> hi all see http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/
[02:33] <chemical_ds> nbound, yup ethernet connection is active with ip address - but i cant ping
[02:33] <rendi> what package i must install for it ?
[02:33] <rendi> it's perl
[02:33] <chemical_ds> decaf, /etc/resolv.conf has correct info
[02:33] <nbound> rendi, perl is installed by default afaik
[02:34] <decaf> chemical_ds: so what's wrong with ping? does it say anything ?  :)
[02:34] <alpha> omg guys
[02:34] <alpha> the scariest shit happened today
[02:34] <alpha> like unbelievable
[02:34] <chemical_ds> decaf, no output whatsoever... it just hangs :(
[02:34] <alpha> i was at the train station right
[02:34] <alpha> ok
[02:34] <nbound> alpha, not as scary as me getting into uni with a UAI of 44.6 :P
[02:34] <rendi> nbound can help me ?
[02:34] <Sp4rKy> doesn't exist a command line to take a screenshot ?
[02:34] <rendi> i wanna us cpan
[02:34] <alpha> lol nbound
[02:34] <idefix_> UAI=Cito-toets?
[02:34] <alpha> seriously though
[02:34] <alpha> this guy got beheaded
[02:34] <alpha> on the tracks
[02:34] <nbound> rendi, unfortunately ive never used cpan...
[02:34] <alpha> at the train station
[02:35] <alpha> fuking scary shit
[02:35] <alpha> his head flew
[02:35] <ilba7r> just wondering if x is broken in dapper? and i know the warning i am just testing it
[02:35] <nbound> alpha, where bouts... i see urt a fellow aussie...
[02:35] <rendi> blah
[02:35] <nbound> ur*
[02:35] <rendi> blah
[02:35] <rendi> blah
[02:35] <alpha> nbound, NSW.... Sydney inner west
[02:35] <idefix_> alpha you saw someone who committed suicide by jumping in front of the grain?
[02:35] <idefix_> train*
[02:35] <nbound> alpha, heh im goin to sydney next week =/
[02:35] <alpha> idefix_ yes... he put his head on the tracks and his head got sliced and flew
[02:36] <chemical_ds> alpha, woah... i'm surprised it wasn't on the news or something... i also live in AU
[02:36] <alpha> nbound, lol congrats...  im in year 12 atm...
[02:36] <decaf> chemical_ds: ping the computer's own address
[02:36] <nbound> alpha, just finished year 12 last year :)
[02:36] <alpha> chemical_ds it should have been... it happened at 8pm there were ambos and cops there
[02:36] <alpha> congrats nbound... 44.6 aye...
[02:36] <nbound> lol, yeah i was lazy
[02:36] <nbound> REALLY lazy
[02:37] <kafnetti> !replacetotem
[02:37] <ubotu> hmm... replacetotem is to replace the totem-plugin with mplayer read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76946
[02:37] <chemical_ds> decaf, i can ping localhost and my LAN interface... anything on the inet does not work tho
[02:37] <alpha> nbound can't blame you... its not a joy to study :P
[02:37] <ghb> Sorry, my network went down so I don't know if and what you answered. So I'll ask again. =)
[02:37] <nbound> alpha, and its not even late round yet... so im not the bottom of the barrel either :S
[02:37] <alpha> lol nbound
[02:37] <ghb> How do you disable modules and programs from being initiated on boot up?
[02:37] <nbound> lol
[02:37] <alpha> what are you going to do at USyd nbound?
[02:38] <brenner> alpha: was it a suicide?
[02:38] <decaf> chemical_ds: can you ping ubuntu from another box? cable ok? remember windows xp's doesn't reply pings
[02:38] <nbound> alpha, im not goin to usyd... im goin to SCU
[02:38] <alpha> SCU, whats that nbound...
[02:38] <mustard5> in a bash script how do you test a value for a null in an if then statement?
[02:38] <alpha> brenner: yeah it was... scary shit though
[02:38] <nbound> Southern Cross Univerity
[02:39] <alpha> nbound: haven't heard of that one... what are you going to study?
[02:39] <nbound> IT
[02:39] <decaf> do we have a list like apt-get.org?
[02:39] <alpha> nbound: lol... u'd have a head start with linux and everything
[02:39] <nbound> alpha, yeah if u know where coffs harbour is thats where ill be studying
[02:39] <alpha> nbound, i think thats north of sydney... closer to QLD?
[02:40] <idefix_> alpha was the guy whose head flew depressed?
[02:40] <brenner> decaf: packages.ubuntu.com maybe?
[02:40] <alpha> idefix_ i'm not sure... i think he was but i just saw him jump and lay his neck on the track
[02:40] <nbound> alpha, yeah a lil over half way if ur travelling north
[02:41] <decaf> brenner: I started to learn packaging. Recompile Dapper's videolan for breezy. we need an unofficial packages list
[02:41] <brenner> decaf: well, there are text listings on that site
[02:42] <tulioanjos> if i download linux-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz to the ubuntu, is possible to install with no problems?
[02:42] <chemical_ds> decaf, i cannot ping ubuntu box from another box on lan
[02:42] <brenner> decaf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/allpackages.en.txt.gz
[02:42] <decaf> tulioanjos: we can't guarantie, check "kernel-package" docs
[02:43] <nbound> tulioanjos, i cant give u a definate answer... but i think u gotta tweak breezy a lil
[02:43] <tulioanjos> decaf: where?
[02:43] <decaf> tulioanjos: you may want to install kernel-package
[02:43] <lewwy_away> i wonder how many thousands of words have been typed in this chat room...
[02:43] <alpha> Okay guys, where would i be able to find a torrent for cedega... Wine doesnt work for me and the CVS version just buggers up
[02:43] <lewwy_away> thats piracy
[02:43] <lewwy_away> *cough*www.tuxwarez.com*cough*
[02:44] <alpha> OMG THANKX
[02:44] <jago25_98> alpha, naughty boy. amule search
[02:44] <nbound> lewwy_away, lmao
[02:44] <lewwy> he's actually right
[02:44] <lewwy> the CVS ver DOES bugger up
[02:44] <lidia> mmm...
[02:44] <nbound> i just use wine... works well enough
[02:44] <alpha> jago25_98, i've tried that but im waiting for sources :P
[02:44] <lewwy> yeh
[02:45] <lewwy> wine works well
[02:45] <lewwy> cedega is just a cheap hack of wine
[02:45] <gimmulf_> Anyone with PPC experiece? just have a little small question
[02:45] <decaf> chemical_ds: if your cables and hub work, there could be a wrong kernel module problem. I've also got IRQ sharing or wrong IRQ problems with NE2000 ISA cards
[02:45] <hubbadub> actually for some reason i was only able to get dvd decrptyer to work in cedega, not wine or COO
[02:45] <ccooke> lewwy: Cedega adds some nice things. Overall, it's value for money.
[02:45] <lewwy> yeh
[02:45] <lewwy> money...
[02:45] <lewwy> linux is meant to be free
[02:46] <nbound> lewwy, yeah true, the problem with wine is though... it'll run ur programs, but if its gonna screw up itll be for install :(
[02:46] <lewwy> thats wat gets me about linux
[02:46] <lewwy> its free
[02:46] <lewwy> but to play games you have to pay (cedega)
[02:46] <lewwy> to print you have to pay (turboprint for my i560)
[02:46] <brenner> isn't cedega cvs free?
[02:47] <nbound> lewwy, but eventually someone makes an open source version
[02:47] <hubbadub> DONT BLAME LINUX blame the hardware/software developers that dont support linux
[02:47] <decaf> chemical_ds: send your lspci -v output to pastebin, of course if it's a pci card
[02:47] <idefix_> is qcad the best cad program available for linux?
[02:47] <tulioanjos> someone tried 3dmark on cedega?
[02:47] <lewwy> yeh
[02:47] <tulioanjos> is the results good like win?
[02:47] <nbound> thats what i love about open source, if someone makes u pay for it, someone else will try and make a free version
[02:47] <idefix_> lewwy are you from korea?
[02:47] <lewwy> uhh
[02:47] <lewwy> negaive
[02:47] <lewwy> australia
[02:47] <lewwy> why idefix_
[02:47] <tulioanjos> maybe a cracked version lol
[02:48] <nbound> tulioanjos, '05 works on plain WINE just fine
[02:48] <decaf> all we need is 20% of market, guys :). then all hardware vendors will have to support linux
[02:48] <tulioanjos> nbound: and the results ...
[02:48] <idefix_> some korean girl (who lives in Australia) used the word 'yeh'
[02:48] <tulioanjos> better than windows?
[02:48] <thor32> huhu
[02:48] <nbound> tulioanjos, they were roughly equal to my win results...
[02:48] <lewwy> uhh
[02:48] <idefix_> is qcad the best cad program available for linux?
[02:48] <lewwy> thats sorta vague idefix_
[02:48] <tulioanjos> uhn cool :)
[02:48] <tulioanjos> do u have ATi or nVidia ?
[02:48] <brenner> decaf: heh. what %age are we now?
[02:48] <idefix_> so I thought it was a korean word
[02:48] <idefix_> so about qcad..
[02:48] <lewwy> no
[02:48] <lewwy> www.google.com
[02:48] <nbound> nvidia, ati id prsume may not run as well
[02:49] <lewwy> define:yeh
[02:49] <lewwy> yeh
[02:49] <lewwy> ati dont provide drivers
[02:49] <lewwy> or some crap
[02:49] <decaf> brenner: 1% for desktops, I think  :)
[02:49] <lewwy> yeh
[02:49] <lewwy> some sad number
[02:49] <lewwy> even if we got dell and ppl to put linux on prebuilt computers
[02:49] <tulioanjos> ssh: <IP_ADDRESS> port: 22
[02:49] <lewwy> micro$oft would just pay them off
[02:49] <tulioanjos> someone try to login please
[02:50] <nbound> lewwy, who cares i like the little linux community
[02:50] <decaf> idefix_: I remeber intellicad had a Linux version, it's commercial but much cheaper than autocad
[02:50] <lewwy> yehh
[02:50] <lewwy> atleast theres a small amount of noobs/assholes on the IRC
[02:50] <tulioanjos> :p
[02:50] <lewwy> actually
[02:50] <nbound> lewwy, and ur avg mr and mrs dell... would be stumped as soon as u said "use the terminal"
[02:50] <lewwy> i haven't got negative results on the ubuntu irc
[02:50] <SteveGibbs> Burst n Groan
[02:51] <lewwy> now, #debian...
[02:51] <lewwy> *sigh*
[02:51] <nbound> lol
[02:51] <nbound> anyone in here from OCAU?
[02:51] <chemical_ds> decaf, not sure what pci is, but the output of that command had something about ethernet in it so i here it is: http://pastebin.com/512934
[02:52] <lewwy> quick, someone get dapper beta
[02:52] <tulioanjos> ssh: <IP_ADDRESS> port: 22 ---- someone try to login please ...
[02:52] <lewwy> latest
[02:52] <lewwy> and send it to me
[02:52] <lewwy> dont have ssh tulioanjos
[02:52] <lewwy> burn it
[02:52] <tulioanjos> lol
[02:52] <lewwy> and mail
[02:52] <lewwy> who lives closest to beenleigh
[02:52] <Nivko> tulioanjos: <IP_ADDRESS> login and pass?
[02:52] <tulioanjos> just try ...
[02:52] <Nivko> cant connect ;)
[02:52] <tulioanjos> ok thanks
[02:52] <Nivko> forward ports
[02:53] <tulioanjos> it is on vmware, vmware dont accept external connections ...
[02:53] <nbound> lewwy, if theres noone else from brizzy, probly me (NSW nth coast) ;)
[02:53] <lewwy> lol
[02:53] <alpha> guys does any else have another bittorrent site for linux warez? tuxwarez.com is down apparently
[02:53] <lewwy> nbound
[02:53] <lewwy> mail me dapper latest beta
[02:53] <r0bby> bad idea to seek support for dapper right?
[02:53] <schreu> hi, is there a german ubuntu supportchannel?
[02:53] <nbound> lewwy, sif, u mail it to me :D
[02:53] <lewwy> NO U
[02:53] <decaf> chemical_ds: your kernel module is 3c59x
[02:53] <r0bby> lewwy, you can get it yourself
[02:53] <nbound> !de
[02:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:53] <lewwy> cant
[02:53] <nbound> ;)
[02:53] <kafnetti_> I ma having a small prob. I am trying to "sudo apt-get install mplayer-386" but it finds no packages :/
[02:53] <r0bby> just replace breezy with dapper
[02:53] <lewwy> getting dangerously close to bandwidh cap
[02:54] <r0bby> oh
[02:54] <nbound> kafnetti, just try plain mplayer
[02:54] <kafnetti_> I am trying to follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76946
[02:54] <kafnetti_> k
[02:54] <schreu> thanks
[02:54] <lewwy> cmon nbound
[02:54] <nbound> lewwy, sif have bandwidth cap :P
[02:54] <alpha> Anyone know any linux warez sites?...
[02:54] <lewwy> dont ebe sad
[02:54] <lewwy> be*
[02:54] <lewwy> mail it to m
[02:54] <lewwy> me*
[02:54] <chemical_ds> decaf, so i'm supposed to modprobe that? i thought it was supposed to autoload as it's in /etc/modules
[02:54] <r0bby> alpha, not here
[02:54] <kafnetti_> nbound, "Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[02:54] <Goshawk> does somebody know how to add gpg support to reprepro?
[02:55] <Despen> I need some help, When I installed ubuntu I only had a 20 gb Harddisk, Now I got an extra 80 gb harddisk I want to add to the /home but I have saved config and things in my /home/"user". How do I easiest do the transfer without reinstalling ubuntu?
[02:55] <nbound> lewwy, if im too lazy to dload it myself... theres no chance ill send it to you :P
[02:55] <alpha> r0bby, where at? is it against the rules... sorry
[02:55] <nbound> kafnetti, use synaptic :P
[02:55] <lewwy> dont be sad
[02:55] <flujan> hi all
[02:55] <r0bby> alpha, warez in general is illegal
[02:55] <lewwy> cmon Nb
[02:55] <lewwy> nbound*
[02:55] <tulioanjos> i have ubuntu installed on vmware, but is possible to vmware accept external connections? like a ssh server or apache ...
[02:55] <rem_> hey, I have a laptop with win2k and I want to install Ubuntu, but I only have a floppy drive and a wifi card. Is there a way to make it boot on a floppy or any way to install ubuntu ... ?
[02:55] <r0bby> just download it off of edonkey
[02:55] <nbound> r0bby, in general... afaik there isnt non-illgeal warez :P
[02:56] <flujan> I'm trying to run xorgconfig in my breezy install ... But I cannot find it... So where did xorgconfig and xorgcfg go? :D
[02:56] <alpha> r0bby, yeah
[02:56] <decaf> chemical_ds: it should be autoloaded. it should work, I'm out of guesses
[02:56] <lewwy> whats against the rules?
[02:56] <r0bby> alpha, and don't ask here
[02:56] <idefix_> so qcad is 2D !!
[02:56] <schreu> does udev completly replaces hotplug?
[02:56] <r0bby> you'll get a one way to ticket to ban land
[02:56] <kafnetti_> nbound, getting creepy, but my synaptic doesn't find mplayer. :D
[02:56] <nbound> aka siberia
[02:56] <Goshawk> flujan, usually on debian-like system we use dpkg-reconfigure
[02:56] <chemical_ds> decaf, ok thanks anyway man... i guess i'll just re-install and let the installer set it up for me... that worked before
[02:56] <r0bby> and then where will you go when ubuntu goes crazy?
[02:56] <Goshawk> flujan, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:56] <decaf> tulioanjos: vmware is well documented. bridged networking is the easiest way
[02:57] <kafnetti_> nbound, it does find one plugin to it tho, so the synaptic is working
[02:57] <flujan> Goshawk: I know, but I still prefer the good and old xorgconfig. :D
[02:57] <alpha> r0bby, ok
[02:57] <r0bby> alpha, edonkey is your best bet
[02:57] <r0bby> just be patient
[02:57] <r0bby> there are free edonkey clients
[02:57] <r0bby> emule is one
[02:57] <flujan> Goshawk: I am using slackware a long time, just now I decide to give other distro a try. :D
[02:57] <schreu> or amule
[02:57] <nbound> kafnetti, mine doesnt find it either... BUT it does find mplayer 386, 586, 686, k6, k7
[02:57] <r0bby> or use bit torrent
[02:57] <lewwy> ack
[02:57] <lewwy> slackware
[02:58] <r0bby> good luck finding a torrent site tho
[02:58] <r0bby> :)
[02:58] <lewwy> i remember trying to use that
[02:58] <alpha> How do i register my nickname with irc?
[02:58] <lewwy> it made me cry
[02:58] <flujan> Goshawk: Aren't they available in ubuntu?
[02:58] <Goshawk> flujan, i can't help you, try doing find xorgconfig or locate it
[02:58] <nbound> anyway im leavin for tonight
[02:58] <r0bby> alpha, rtfm
[02:58] <nbound> night all
[02:58] <lewwy> nbound
[02:58] <alpha> rtfm
[02:58] <schreu> so please, does anyone know if udev completely replaces hotplug
[02:58] <lewwy> get that cd in the post first
[02:58] <nbound> lewwy, ur dreamin mate :P
[02:58] <alpha> night nbound
[02:58] <r0bby> ./ns help register
[02:58] <lewwy> rofl
[02:58] <lewwy> good night
[02:58] <flujan> Goshawk: yeap, I tried it... Without success...  Is there a way to make it boot on a floppy or any way to install ubuntu ... ?
[03:00] <Goshawk> flujan, it was for yuou
[03:00] <tulioanjos> rem_: maybe through your ethernet card .. ?
[03:00] <guillem101> rem_, AFAIK ubuntu does not allow network install. It is a pity. At least hoary did not had network install
[03:01] <knoppix> hi all
[03:01] <rem_> is there a way to start the install in windows and then continue from disk .. ?
[03:01] <Revellion> yo
[03:01] <Revellion> rem_: theoretically...
[03:01] <Revellion> yes
[03:01] <flujan> Goshawk: but xorgconfig is a package that belongs to the X server. Not a python package... :(
[03:01] <rem_> ..how would that work ... ?
[03:01] <Revellion> but i prefer using a LiveCD if i wish to have a usable enviroment while installing
[03:02] <Revellion> i.e you could partition
[03:02] <Revellion> and perhaps even format the parts
[03:02] <rem_> I have no cd drive ...
[03:02] <tulioanjos> how to configure a bridge modem on ubuntu ?
[03:02] <Revellion> and then make an image using a coLinux or cygwin
[03:02] <Revellion> then dd it to the drive
[03:02] <Revellion> rem_: network install using PXE boot?
[03:02] <Goshawk> flujan, this is why i said: i hope it's wrong
[03:02] <knoppix> i m a neewb and need help i use ubuntu 5.10 and i m getting this messeg when i try to enter Administration->printing
[03:02] <knoppix> ubuntu error the cups server could not be contacted
[03:02] <Goshawk> flujan, google it
[03:02] <decaf> tulioanjos: if you meant bridged mode adsl modem, application named pppoeconf is the solution
[03:03] <flujan> Goshawk: anyway, thanks for the help... I will try to find it
[03:03] <knoppix> error the cups server could not be contacted
[03:03] <knoppix> can any one help me pls
[03:03] <tulioanjos> decaf: yeah thanks
[03:03] <rem_> k thx, ill try to figure out a way ..
[03:03] <balor> Did xorg 7.0 go into Dapper today?
[03:04] <decaf> tulioanjos: I'm not sure, may be it won't work from inside vmware.
[03:04] <tulioanjos> decaf: lol you are sure
[03:04] <tulioanjos> dont work
[03:06] <Revellion> balor: Xorg 7.0 has been in  dapper for quite sometime
[03:06] <idefix_> what's dapper?
[03:06] <decaf> rem_: try pxeboot, I have no ide how it works with wireless connection. also there is some images here: ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot. if your laptop boots from USB
[03:07] <ndlovu> !usb
[03:07] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ndlovu
[03:07] <decaf> !dapper
[03:07] <ubotu> well, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[03:07] <bryanl> i think i'll upgrade my vmware box to dapper now
[03:08] <decaf> bryanl: why?
[03:08] <ndlovu> anyone know how I can get a USB stick working that doesn't mount by itself? (not sure if it's broken or just weird)
[03:08] <bryanl> decaf, why not... i stay on the cutting edge.. and its my vmware test setup.  not my stable dev platform
 mount /dev/sdax /media/usbstick
[03:09] <dooglus> bryanl: now's not a good time
[03:09] <bryanl> schreu, thanks :)
[03:09] <knoppix> why do i get this messeg when i  m trying to print "the cups server could not be contacted" in ubuntu 5.10
[03:09] <dooglus> bryanl: flight 3's ok, but the repositories currently aren't ok
[03:09] <schreu> lol
[03:09] <bryanl> dooglus, oh..
[03:09] <knoppix> can any 1 help?
[03:09] <schreu> meant ndlovu
[03:10] <dooglus> bryanl: when I go to update at the moment I see: The following packages will be REMOVED: libxp6 sisctrl ubuntu-desktop x-common x-window-system-core xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xserver-xorg xubuntu-desktop
[03:10] <idefix_> is growing a beard the same as putting a sticker on your forehead that says: "I don't want a girlfriend"?
[03:10] <cyphase> http://digg.com/security/Feds_want_Google_search_records
[03:10] <bryanl> hahaha
[03:10] <wiso_nid> hi all, anybody know a good documentation on how to access an iSCSI from an ubuntu?
[03:10] <bryanl> dooglus, i will definetely try it now
[03:10] <dooglus> bryanl: looks like the x.org packages are undergoing a reshuffle
[03:10] <bryanl> dooglus, i like to see progress
[03:11] <bryanl> maybe i can submit a patch or two
[03:11] <allison_1984> anyone using skype ?
 anyone using skype ? me
[03:12] <NiklasH_work> ndlovu, check with dmesg that it is found by the kernel
[03:12] <ndlovu> schreu: thanks, what's the fs type - usbfs?
[03:12] <setuid> I've installed xfonts-artwiz, and am trying 'xterm -fn lime', but its telling me none of the artwiz fonts are installed. I've rehashed the font path (xset fp rehash), I've tried 'dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-artwiz', and some other things... ,nothing helps. What am I missing here?
[03:12] <allison_1984> schreu: how did you install ? I am having some problems
[03:12] <decaf> schreu: mines startup takes two minutes
[03:12] <schreu> i took the redat version
[03:13] <schreu> and did "alien blalalaskype.rpm"
[03:13] <NiklasH_work> ndlovu, probably vfat
[03:13] <ndlovu> NiklasH_work: how would I know (dmesg returns quite some information)
 mine about 1 minute too
[03:14] <NiklasH_work> just plug it in and check the last rows of dmesg
[03:14] <schreu> or do dmesg | grep sda
[03:14] <ndlovu> usb-storage: device found at 2
[03:14] <ndlovu> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[03:14] <ndlovu>   Vendor: USB       Model: Flash Disk        Rev: 2.00
[03:14] <setuid> Anyone?
[03:15] <allison_1984> schreu: I am trying both thru the repos and apt -get methods
[03:15] <NiklasH_work> try again, now you should see which device it is
[03:15] <ndlovu> schreu: dmesg | grep sda gets "Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"
[03:15] <NiklasH_work> then just mount /dev/sda /mountpoint
[03:15] <schreu> allison_1984, apt-get install alien
[03:16] <schreu> alien "rpm for redhat fromskypehomepage.rpm"
[03:16] <allison_1984> schreu: didn't you mention that its for redhat
[03:16] <allison_1984> schreu: I am on ubuntu
[03:16] <schreu> dpkg -i newgenerated.deb
[03:16] <schreu> me too allison_1984
[03:17] <ianw_> Where is the proper spot to set the MAC address on my network card?
[03:17] <allison_1984> schreu: normally the deb pckdgs work...but it ain't
[03:17] <schreu> i know
[03:17] <allison_1984> hmmm
[03:17] <allison_1984> schreu: so alien works
[03:17] <setuid> Any font experts around?
[03:17] <schreu> yes alien works with the redhat.rpm not the other ones
[03:18] <allison_1984> schreu: I am not so good with these debs pckdgs and their dependencies install, let alone rpms.... :(
[03:19] <ndlovu> NiklasH_work, schreu, got this result, any thoughts? sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda usbstick/ => "mount: No medium found"
[03:20] <NiklasH_work> ndlovu, hmm... do you have any /dev/sda1 that you can try?
[03:20] <schreu> ndlovu, try sda1
[03:20] <idefix_> what do you ask/tell people you contact that just got a baby?
[03:20] <idefix_> sorry for the slightly offtopic remark
[03:20] <ratschnowski> hello, i am using evolution on Ubuntu Breezer. When opening an imap account, just the number of unread mails is shown, not the mails itself. Any idea where to look for the error?
[03:20] <setuid> "Congratulations on your new family member"
[03:20] <schreu> allison_1984, didnt get what u meant
[03:21] <OpsVentus> Hello all, I see since Breezy Wacom drivers are included but the pen still dosn't work, anyone know what the status of the driver is, or where I can find the status?
[03:21] <ndlovu> NiklasH_work, schreu: "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[03:21] <ndlovu> "
[03:21] <NiklasH_work> ianw_, try ifconfig hw ether <your mac>
[03:21] <setuid> How the heck do I get xfonts-artwiz working!?
[03:21] <linish> hello
[03:21] <rem_> hey, I have a laptop with win2k and I want to install Ubuntu, but I only have a floppy drive and a wifi card. Is there a way to make it boot on a floppy or any way to install ubuntu ... ?
[03:22] <schreu> ndlovu, cfdisk /dev/sda and create a partition
[03:22] <rem_> this might work: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[03:22] <NiklasH_work> ndlovu, see if you've got any /dev/sg entries sometimes it's there
[03:22] <rem_> :)
[03:22] <allison_1984> schreu: I have never worked with rpms....
[03:22] <linish> hey i need some help regarding my sound confgn
[03:22] <schreu> allison_1984, you don?t need to. alien will generate a .deb for u
[03:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell rem_ about smartboot
[03:22] <jadams> I have two ubuntu boxen on my network, schweeet and lifenik, and I would have assumed I could do ssh schweeet from lifenik and be good...but I can't seem to connect by machine name.  Any idea why?
[03:22] <allison_1984> screu: ok
[03:23] <ndlovu> NiklasH_work, schreu: no /dev/sg but dmesg says "usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning" when I plug it in
[03:23] <setuid> jadams: dns?
[03:23] <linish> hello
[03:23] <jadams> setuid: bah, I haven't set up DNS since the reinstall...thanks
[03:23] <schreu> maybe broken
[03:23] <linish> can someun help me confg the sound
[03:23] <ndlovu> schreu: cfdisk gives fatal error - cannot open disk drive
[03:24] <schreu> ndlovu, buy a new one
[03:24] <NiklasH_work> ndlovu, yeah, it seems broken
[03:24] <rem_> found this too...but dunno if it would allow to start install from hd ... ?
[03:24] <rem_> http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[03:24] <_jason> rem_: did you read the link ubotu sent you?
[03:24] <rem_> i just saw it now .. thx
[03:24] <ndlovu> NiklasH_work, schreu: thanks for the help, that was my suspicion also...
[03:25] <linish> hello there
[03:25] <rem_> that wont work cze i dont have a cd drive at all on that laptop ..
[03:25] <_jason> rem_: actually, I just read it myself and I don't think it will help you
[03:26] <rem_> Ill try the procedure from the 1rst link ...
[03:26] <idefix_> setuid you mean I should just call them tell them that and the rest will come automatically?
[03:26] <rem_> thx anyway ..
[03:26] <_jason> rem_: I think there is a way to do it over network somewhere on the wiki, would that work?
[03:26] <setuid> idefix_: the rest of "what" will come automatically?
[03:26] <rem_> only if my wifi card is recognized easily I guess ..
[03:26] <idefix_> well, I don't know anything about babies so...
[03:26] <mephis1987> hello there
[03:26] <rem_> easiest would be floppy boot and the install from hd ..
[03:27] <mephis1987> i start learning C++ on ubuntu
[03:27] <rem_> hello world :)
[03:27] <mephis1987> can u give me adice which IDE i shouold use ?
[03:27] <mephis1987> on ubuntu
[03:27] <_jason> rem_: I haven't read the links you past, but you consider this as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[03:27] <rem_> cout << that is .. :D
[03:27] <rem_> k ill have a look thx ..
[03:27] <mephis1987> is dev-c++ ok ?
[03:28] <mtlife> hello, anyone with a bit shorewall / routing experience in here?
[03:28] <_jason> mephis1987: whatever works for you, I like vim
[03:28] <decaf> mephis1987: kdevelop is most widely used. take a look at anjuta if you prefer gnome
[03:28] <gnomefreak> mephis1987: is there a version of dev-C++ for linux?
[03:28] <mephis1987> uhm
[03:28] <idefix_> setuid
[03:28] <rem_> gcc i think..
[03:28] <idefix_> ah never mind
[03:28] <mephis1987> so which on do u recommend ?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> i thought that was a MS only  ide
[03:29] <mephis1987> i think vim is good :D
[03:29] <mephis1987> i like vim
[03:29] <setuid> idefix_: I have no idea what you're talking about, I guess
[03:29] <gnomefreak> mephis1987: vim or emacs i dontt htink any of the IDE's have d
[03:29] <damned|ubuntu> hi all. i've just now installed and updated 6.04, and now my gnome-keyboard-preferences crashes. and when i press "tell developers" also bugs-buddy crashes
[03:29] <decaf> I like vim too, is there a way to set up code-completion on VIM ?
[03:29] <_jason> decaf: #vim
[03:29] <Daremos> Hola
[03:29] <gnomefreak> damned|ubuntu: look for the bug :)
[03:29] <xiaogil> do i need a special package to have my Belkin wifi card working on Breezy ?
[03:30] <decaf> thank you _jason
[03:30] <SirKillalot2> do you know a simple STUN client which can determinate my ip address?
[03:30] <Paul^> hello, i have a problem with my pc; i screwed windows up somehow and now i'm trying to restore the files with ubuntu live. i've mounted my ntfs disks but they are read only, i know it's risky to write ntfs in linux, but how can i make them writable?
[03:32] <Paul89> anyone here that can help me? i'm desperate :/
[03:32] <j2daosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7359
[03:32] <j2daosh> can someone explain that? mysql issue
[03:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Paul89 about ntfs
[03:34] <dilema> anyone have any clue if there is a synaptics(touchpad) frontend? and anyone know hwy(brand new install) gnome refuses to load?
[03:34] <dilema> I get a brown wallpaper thats it
[03:35] <NiklasH_work> dilema, try removing .gnome2/session, if you have one
[03:35] <dilema> did that
[03:35] <_jason> dilema: what video card?  you can try changing the video driver to "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then get the right drivers for your card
[03:35] <dilema> nuked my home
[03:36] <Paul89> gnomefreak, does that mean it's impossible to write NTFS partitions?
[03:36] <dilema> _jason, na every other DE works fine
[03:36] <dilema> kde/fluxbox/xfce
[03:36] <_jason> dilema: hrmm, you've tried a new user?
[03:36] <dilema> _jason, yup on top of the fact I nuked my home
[03:36] <gnomefreak> Paul89: it is nott advised at all to write to ntfs but didnt that give you a link to help you write to it?
[03:36] <_jason> (I know you deleted home, but I once had to create a new user for a reason unknown to me(
[03:36] <dilema> just to make sure
[03:36] <NiklasH_work> dilema, so you nuked all .gconf* and .gnome* dirs?
[03:37] <dilema> rm -rf /home/dilema/(
[03:37] <dilema> err
[03:37] <Paul89> gnomefreak, it said umm.. i'll look it up
[03:37] <dilema> rm -rf /home/dilema/*
[03:37] <Paul89> gnomefreak: *At this time, NTFS may only be mounted read-only by the kernel. This means information may be read, but no information may be written.
[03:37] <dilema> let me add a diff user
[03:37] <dilema> see if that works
[03:37] <NiklasH_work> dilema, then you might have your .gnome dirs left, i think
[03:37] <dilema> where would they be?
[03:38] <mtlife> anyone with a bit shorewall / routing experience in here who can help me?
[03:38] <dilema> using a diff user does not work either
[03:38] <NiklasH_work> dilema, try just doing rm -rf /home/dilema/.gnome* and rm -rf /home/dilema/.gconf*
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Paul89: i dont have any ntfs partions nor fat but someone changed the bots ouput so i guess that means no :(
[03:38] <[A] ndy80> hi
[03:38] <dilema> oh **it
[03:38] <_jason> dilema: just to test it out, try the vesa driver.   Reading is OK
[03:39] <_jason> !helpme
[03:39] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:39] <dilema> now let me log out of that user, try it again, maybe the initial starting of gnome works but files are gettign writtent incorrectly
[03:40] <Paul89> gnomefreak, i know, but at least the fat system is open, ntfs is still a lot of mumbo jumbo to linux..
[03:40] <[A] ndy80> a little problem with X remoting.... I've a client and a server, from the client i do: ssh -l root -X <SERVERIP>   then once logged I try to start an application, but I get this error: (xchat:4349): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:40] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, X forwarding as root? Brr....
[03:40] <[A] ndy80> in the sshd_config I enabled forwarding: X11Forwarding yes
[03:40] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: just to test...
[03:41] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, Try ssh -Y -l root <SERVER>
[03:41] <linish> sound confg...
[03:41] <linish> default sound card how to change?
[03:41] <linish> how to change default sound card
[03:41] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: same error... I tried from normal user too...
[03:42] <linish> how to change default sound card
[03:42] <linish> how to change default sound card
[03:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell linish about patience
[03:42] <schreu> linish
[03:42] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, Do the server logs say anything?
[03:43] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: the remote PC should be able to connect to my local Xserver... right? How can I check if my Xserver allow remote connections?
[03:43] <linish> someun noticed me
[03:43] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: echo $DISPLAY is blank.... should it contain something?
[03:44] <[A] ndy80> (echo $DISPLAY on the server, once I'm logged...)
[03:44] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, Just a shot: do you have any more IP numbers than <IP_ADDRESS> in /etc/hosts?
[03:44] <Ng> [A] ndy80: by default the X server on ubuntu doesn't listen on tcp ports, so remote access won't work without further configuration
[03:44] <schreu> theres a speaker in the top left of your desktop linish  just rightklick and a pick open mixer, than change your  default device
[03:44] <NiklasH_work> for localhost
[03:44] <gnomefreak> linish: have you tried your sound settings in system>prefferences>sound?
[03:44] <[A] ndy80> Ng: ah ok! my pc client is ubuntu... remote server is debian
[03:44] <dooglus> Ng: if you use X forwarding you don't need to have it listening on tcp ports to allow remote access
[03:44] <linish> yeah
[03:44] <NiklasH_work> Ng, that's not valid for X forwarding via ssh
[03:45] <linish> the default card doesn't change there gnome freak
[03:45] <Ng> true, my bad, I didn't scroll back far enough :)
[03:45] <gnomefreak> linish: are you going from an onboard sound card to a pci sound card?
[03:45] <NiklasH_work> :)
[03:45] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: I've other ip in my hosts
[03:45] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, for localhost?
[03:45] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: "echo $DISPLAY" shouldn't be blank, no.  it should be set to something like localhost:10.0
[03:45] <[A] ndy80> no no
[03:45] <NiklasH_work> localhost should only have <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:45] <Fjodor> Should I be suspicious about the gnome system monitor reports a memory usage of 94%/58% cache on amd64 with 1Gb RAM?
[03:46] <NiklasH_work> ok. that screwed stuff up for me once :)
[03:46] <linish> tell u what am i doin....i m changin to linux from windows xp..the speakers the main hurdle..they r not responding..i dont know more than that...
[03:46] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: yes, localhost has only one IP.
[03:47] <FlipSt4R> can someone tell me where can i find the ubuntu source.list for apt
[03:47] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: you asked me if I've other IP in hosts and I told yes, but related to other hosts...
[03:47] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, did you see anything in the remote server logs?
[03:47] <Ng> Fjodor: run "free" in a terminal, the second line of numbers tells you the real figures
[03:47] <daveo> i've forgotten my login username and password for my ubuntu 5.10...does anyone know how i can recover these please
[03:47] <gnomefreak> linish: thats you choice but if you didnt disable the onboard sound card than you wont get new one to be seen
[03:47] <Ng> Fjodor: the kernel will use as much RAM as it can for caches
[03:47] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: in which file do I have to see?
[03:47] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, yeah, i was a bit too quick on the keyboard there... :)
[03:47] <Fjodor> Mem:        963188     911344      51844          0      63864     548948
 thats not true
[03:48] <gnomefreak> schreu: it was here
[03:48] <blue-frog> daveo, reboot in recovery mode and cat /etc/passwd to look for your user, then change your user password
[03:48] <schreu> i use my onboard card for skype and the otherone for everything else
[03:48] <Fjodor> Oki
[03:48] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: now I set the $DISPLAY to localhost:10.0
[03:48] <[A] ndy80> but still doesn't work
[03:48] <gnomefreak> the onboard card needed to be disabled in bios before sound output would go through new pci card
[03:48] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, I think it's either /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log
[03:48] <SteveGibbs> Burst n Groan
[03:48] <alpha> Okay i have a problem with a cedega installation... it won't let me install the i386 version because i have an amd64... how can i get around this?
[03:48] <SteveGibbs> You Bun, too!
[03:48] <schreu> no gnomefreak
[03:49] <Ng> Fjodor: that's the first line of numbers, the one that starts "-/ buffers/cache" will show you the amount of RAM in use by applications and the amount free
[03:49] <_jason> blue-frog: I thought passwords were in /etc/shadow ?
[03:49] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: you shouldn't set DISPLAY, that won't work.  but it should be set for you.
[03:49] <Ng> Fjodor: but it said 58% cache, so chances are the second line will show about 400mb in use
[03:49] <SteveGibbs> You Bun, too!
[03:49] <Fjodor> That looks fairer. However, the mouse seems sluggish at times. I thought it might have to do with system load
[03:49] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: who should set the DISPLAY for me?
[03:49] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, could you paste your sshd_config on the remote server, and the ssh_config on the local?
[03:49] <SteveGibbs> RAM the Ubunto!!  I am very satisfied with the Ubuntu!  It is fun too!  Woo hoo!
[03:50] <blue-frog> _jason, he wants to see his forgotten user then he changes the passwd using passwd user
[03:50] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, that's done by ssh (when it works..)
[03:50] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: ssh should set it.  what do you see if you run this?    ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>'echo $DISPLAY'
[03:50] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: sure! hust a minute...
[03:50] <_jason> blue-frog: oh ok, I just don't know much about it
[03:50] <gnomefreak> schreu: what do yo mean no? to enable a pci slot sound card the onboard card has to be disabled or the OS is always gonna try to use the onboard card by defaul
[03:50] <gnomefreak> t
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> RAM the Ubunto!!  I am very satisfied with the Ubuntu!  It is fun too!  Woo hoo!  Hot diggity dawg!!!  Somebody acknowledge my msg!!  Thankz!
[03:51] <blue-frog> _jason, passwords are encrypted, looking at them won't solve his problem
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> . . ]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>.+
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> ~%^#<$*../"...Drink ..)
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> .`~}"_&(X:*..& Draw. ._*@^;
[03:51] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: this is the sshd_config on the remote PC: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7360
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> come on!
[03:51] <greg123> hey guys, whats the name of wireless network manager in linux?
[03:51] <schreu> ah know i understand gnomefreak , thats true
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> i want attention!
[03:51] <Fjodor> greg123: wifi-radar?
[03:51] <_jason> blue-frog: you're right, the problem was I didn't know his problem :), although he could probably just copy and paste a known password from another user right?
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> .........//\\..........
[03:52] <greg123> kwifi?
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> ........///\\.........
[03:52] <Ng> SteveGibbs: we're here to help people, not lavish the attention-whores ;)
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> .......|||..||........
[03:52] <greg123> is it possiable?
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> .......|||__||........
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Wohoo!A|||...|||A......
[03:52] <Ng> !ops
[03:52] <ubotu> ops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Rowdie||||/\||||......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> ok ng sorry
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> ishav|||||_|||||......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> inga||||||||......
[03:52] <gnomefreak> bye
[03:52] <_jason> SteveGibbs: STOP NOW
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Birth-|||||"|||||......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> how do i stop this
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> day!!!||/^^\||......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Time4||.||||.||......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Rocket||//||\\||......
[03:52] <_jason> SteveGibbs: quit!
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> i can't jason!!!
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Take-///||\\\......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Off!/____/||\____\cyfo
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> .|..||||..|.
[03:52] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, just to be sure: have you restarted the remote sshd since you changed sshd_config?
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> .@((@%VAVAV%<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:52] <_jason> SteveGibbs: quit and come back
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> ~(@(@??)(?V?)(??@)@).~
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> it has to finish running i think
[03:52] <SteveGibbs>  SpaceTravel
[03:52] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: and this is my ssh_config on local machine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7361
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Rocks!
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> its stopped now
[03:52] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: what do you see if you run this?    ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>'echo $DISPLAY'
[03:52] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: I never changed my sshd_config
[03:53] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: I see nothing
[03:53] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: oh.  that's not good either.
[03:54] <mtlife> ok can someone help me with a routing issue?
[03:54] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: do you see something wrong in my config files?
[03:55] <Paul89> ok, that didn't work. another question; i have only one cdrom drive and that's the one that the ubuntu live cd is in, can i still burn cds that way?
[03:55] <NiklasH_work> sorry, just a sec
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Paul89,  not sure about the Ubuntu live cd.. but many other live cds have a 'toram' option that lets you run from the cd in a ram drive
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Paul89,  but you do need quite a bit of ram.
[03:55] <schreu> yes Paul89 if u start your burning aplication and than eject the cd
[03:56] <daveo> looks to have sorted my login problem, thanks guys.  learn something new every day
[03:56] <Paul89> Dr_Willis, i have 768mb
[03:56] <Paul89> schreu, how do i do that? eject wouldn't work
[03:56] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: you see nothing at all from the command I asked you to run?  not even a blank line?
[03:57] <schreu> not? sorry thought about knoppix
[03:57] <john_> Hello?
[03:57] <Paul89> ok
[03:57] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, no, they seem fine
[03:57] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: yes, I told you I see nothing--->a blank line I mean
[03:57] <NiklasH_work> weird...
[03:57] <szronik> Is a PIII 600 fast enough to decode DVD?
[03:57] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:57] <hikenboot> can anyone tell me a way of setting the mtu size to 1492 on BOOT for an interface?
[03:57] <linish> anyun any idea abt sound confg>
[03:57] <john_> Is this the ubuntu support channel?
[03:58] <_jason> john_: yep
[03:58] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, maybe you need to have xserver-xorg-common installed on the remote? But I wouldn't think so
[03:58] <john_> Thanks!
[03:58] <NiklasH_work> or whatever it's called
[03:58] <dooglus> NiklasH_work: I don't think it's needed
[03:59] <john_> I know I have asked for this before (and forgot): How do I upgrade to the latest ubuntu release?
[03:59] <Paul89> there was a command option for eject to force eject, even with a locked drive, if i remember correctly. can someone tell me the arguments for that?
[03:59] <dwerf> shabbadabbadoo
[03:59] <john_> Hello dwerf
[04:00] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: do you have an ssh server running on your local machine?
[04:00] <dwerf> hi
[04:00] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: consider that xchat package is installed... so I think that xserver is installed too...
[04:00] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: no
[04:00] <NiklasH_work> john_, perl -pi -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:00] <teroedni> Please: How to debug networkadmin:Im running dapper testin release and get a lock when trying to set up rt2500 usb network device.It completely lock the computer,and i doesnt get any bug-buddy information,since the whole system just crash:/
[04:00] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: should I run it on local machine too?
[04:00] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: do you have DISPLAY set in the shell on the local machine?
[04:00] <NiklasH_work> john_, but i think you would do better with a clean install
[04:00] <john_> NiklasH_work: Thanks!
[04:00] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: no need.
[04:00] <john_> I'll write it down!
[04:01] <teroedni> where should i lock for bug messages?
[04:01] <teroedni> Thanks for any help on this
[04:01] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: on local I've: :0.0
[04:01] <dwerf> i'm getting a weird error when starting synaptic
[04:01] <dwerf> W: Couldn't stat source package list file: apt-build/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_var_cache_apt-build_repository_dists_apt-build_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:01] <dwerf> what would it mean?
[04:01] <dwerf> is there a non-existing repository listed?
[04:01] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: I was going to suggest you try installing the ssh server on your local machine and see if the X forwarding works when you log in to that (local to local)
[04:02] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: that would give me more to go on
[04:02] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: just installed :)
[04:02] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: like, run:   ssh -X andy80@localhost 'echo $DISPLAY'
[04:02] <alpha> How do i install the cedega i386 version for an amd64 system?
[04:02] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, does X forwarding work from other remote servers?
[04:03] <dooglus> NiklasH_work: that's what I'm trying to find out with his local server install
[04:03] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: I've no other server to test
[04:03] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: 'localhost' is another server you can test...  it happens not to be remote, but the forwarding works the same
[04:03] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: localhost:10.0
[04:04] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: that tells me that the forwarding is working - so your client is OK, and the server is the problem
[04:04] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: this is what I see with echo $DISPLAY on my local machine after a ssh -X andy80@localhost
[04:04] <dilema> how do you set gdm as the default display manager instead of kdm?
[04:04] <NiklasH_work> dilema, dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:04] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: that "ssh -X user@host 'echo $DISPLAY'" command logs in, echoes the display, and logs out again
[04:04] <mephis1987> hello there
[04:05] <stamen81> hi
[04:05] <stamen81> ff
[04:05] <mephis1987> i m trying to figure out sth in the terminal
[04:05] <john_> Niklas_work: Do I run the whole line you gave me in the terminal?
[04:05] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: do I have to login to the remote server and display its $DISPLAY again?
[04:05] <[A] ndy80> ok...
[04:05] <mephis1987> i want to see the usage of command
[04:05] <dooglus> dilema: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:05] <mephis1987> then i typed man ls
[04:05] <NiklasH_work> john_, I would recommend that you use one command at a time, just to be safe
[04:05] <mephis1987> so it shows the usage of ls
[04:06] <[A] ndy80> andy80@debian:/$ echo $DISPLAY
[04:06] <stamen81> fff
[04:06] <mephis1987> but how can i exit to the terminal again
[04:06] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: still blank line...
[04:06] <john_> Niklas: ok
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking when you ssh'ed in to run stuff. you did NOT have to export the display
[04:06] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: you're running the "ssh -X ... 'echo $DISPLAY'" as a single command, right?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> or have it set..
[04:06] <stamen81> a
[04:06] <NiklasH_work> Dr_Willis, you don't, normally. That's his problem... :)
[04:07] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: no sorry... not as a single command... wait...
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> NiklasH_work,  :P
[04:07] <mephis1987> if i typed man ls
[04:07] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: you don't have to set it, but it should be set for you.  it isn't in his case
[04:07] <mephis1987> or whatis ls
[04:07] <mephis1987> i cant exit to terminal
[04:07] <mephis1987> it keep showing the ls usage
[04:07] <mephis1987> how can i ?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> dooglus,  Hmm.. i though id noticed it not being set but it worked fine anyway.  lol.. Ill test it out here in a little
[04:07] <hikenboot> can anyone tell me a way of setting the mtu size to 1492 on BOOT for an interface?  "man 5 interfaces" provides a method IF you are using static addressing. I am using dynamic addressing thru my provider
[04:08] <Ng> mephis1987: q will quit man
[04:08] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: ok, now I did: ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>'echo $DISPLAY'
[04:08] <[A] ndy80> still blank line
[04:08] <NiklasH_work> mephis1987, just press 'q'
[04:08] <mephis1987> oh
[04:08] <mephis1987> i see
[04:08] <mephis1987> sorry
[04:08] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: do you have anything in your .bashrc or .bash_profile on the remote machine which could be messing with your DISPLAY?
[04:08] <mephis1987> i m quite new here
[04:08] <stamen81> how can i write here with lighter letters?
[04:08] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: I look... just a moment...
[04:08] <bwlang> hikenboot: just put an up ifconfig eth0 mtu 1492 line  in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:08] <Ng> [A] ndy80: is it that you're sshing into the machine as root, but not logged into X as root?
[04:09] <dooglus> stamen81: lighter?  this is IRC, the letters here don't have weights
[04:09] <Ng> no wait, ignore that
[04:09] <tarbazli> hi all
[04:09] <tarbazli> i installed edubuntu
[04:09] <stamen81> j
[04:09] <[A] ndy80> Ng: on local machine I'm logged as "andy80", on remote machine I log with root
[04:09] <tarbazli> i run ltspadmin
[04:09] <stamen81> h
[04:09] <tarbazli> everything lokking well
[04:10] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, didn't it work as a normal user, either?
[04:10] <tarbazli> but xdmcp looking no
[04:10] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: run something like    "grep DISPLAY ~/.* 2>/dev/null"    on the remote host to see if DISPLAY is getting mentioned
[04:10] <tarbazli> how can i install xdmcp
[04:10] <Ng> :o
[04:10] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: from which directory?
[04:10] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, I think it might be that you're trying to run an X app as root. We should try as a normal user first
[04:11] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: it doesn't make any difference
[04:11] <mephis1987> hello , is there sth like remote desktop connection in ubuntu ?
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to move things from one virtual terminal to another, like with workspaces?
[04:11] <dooglus> mephis1987: system>preferences>remote-desktop
[04:11] <ogra> tarbazli, you might come to #edubuntu :)
[04:11] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: it doesn't work with normal user too...
[04:11] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: if you use "screen" it is
[04:11] <NiklasH_work> damn...
[04:11] <tarbazli> i try /join edubuntu
[04:11] <john_> Hmmm... Didn't work...
[04:12] <tarbazli> i didnt win
[04:12] <Induane> Where is the default way to set uid
[04:12] <dooglus> tarbazli: you need a # in front of channel names
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Ah.  Which I've heard of, but haven't taken the time to learn about yet.
[04:12] <Induane> umask I mean?
[04:12] <ogra> tarbazli, #edubuntu :)
[04:12] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: the output is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7362
[04:12] <tarbazli> ok a sec
[04:12] <Induane> there isn't a /etc/profiles
[04:12] <Electr0_cYpH3r> (:
[04:12] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: type "screen" in a virtual terminal.  then do stuff in there.  then go to a different virtual terminal and run "screen -d -r"
[04:12] <afief> What good chess game are out there?
[04:12] <stamen81> irc.freenode.net
[04:12] <mephis1987> oh
[04:12] <NiklasH_work> mephis1987, if you want to connect to a windows server just run rdesktop
[04:12] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: the 'stuff' will jump to the new vt
[04:13] <mephis1987> i see
[04:13] <mephis1987> i did as dooglus said
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: How does it know which stuff to get?  (If you were to have multiple screens?)
[04:13] <mephis1987> but i want to connect to other desktop
[04:13] <john_> NiklasH_work: It did not work... Maybe I am doing it wrong. Are there any internetpages that gives exact instructions on this?
[04:13] <mephis1987> not allow them to access mine
[04:13] <NiklasH_work> dooglus, cool, i haven't tried that. I just knew about the -X option
[04:13] <mephis1987> uhm
[04:13] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: if you had multiple screens it would list them I think
[04:13] <mephis1987> i ll try rdesktop
[04:14] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: each screen can run multiple things - so people generally only run one screen.
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> mephis1987: On that same window it tells you the command to connect to another, provided they have a vnc server running.
[04:14] <NiklasH_work> tonyyarusso, you can only connect to screens owned by you
[04:14] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: type control-a c to make a new screen inside screen and control-a control-a to switch screens
[04:14] <Pygi> freaky: ping ping
[04:15] <NiklasH_work> tonyyarusso, and if you have multiple you get a list, then type the number of the screen after the screen -r command
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Wow, that could get confusing.  Useful though.
[04:15] <Ng> Pygi: there isn't anyone in here called freaky ;)
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> NiklasH_work: Not a problem, I'm the only one using this computer!
[04:15] <Pygi> Ng: gnomefreak = freaky :))
[04:15] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: did you see the output?
[04:16] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: I found screen very useful at work - if I need to move desks to go work with someone else, I can take all my programs with me instead of having to restart them
[04:16] <_jason> tonyyarusso: ctrl-a ?, will give you a list of commands
[04:16] <Ng> Pygi: unless he has his IRC client set up to highlight "freaky" he won't see you pinging him then ;)
[04:16] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: yes.  there's nothing interesting there.
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Thanks for the tip.
[04:16] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: I don't know what else to tell you.
[04:16] <Pygi> Ng: gah, yes I know :P
[04:16] <NiklasH_work> agreed: screen is great
[04:16] <Electr0_cYpH3r> :)
[04:16] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: ok, thanks anyway....
[04:16] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, me neither. damn...
[04:17] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work, dooglus : thanks anyway :\
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> NiklasH_work, dooglus, _jason: Can the different screens have titles to go with their numbers, so when you get the list it's a little more 'friendly'?
[04:17] <Ng> -T
[04:17] <Ng> I mean -t
[04:18] <Electr0_cYpH3r> :) Dork..
[04:19] <_jason> tonyyarusso: I've never done it, but the man pages mentions ctrl-a A
[04:19] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: I think so.  "man screen"
[04:19] <Ng> tonyyarusso: -t
[04:19] <_jason> tonyyarusso: wait that's window title, there is, yeah what ng said
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Sounds good.
[04:19] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: C-a A lets you set the title
[04:20] <Ng> basically screen rocks
[04:21] <lowman62> question: why when I ..sudo apt-get install mplayer do I get Package mplayer is not available blah blah blah??
[04:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell lowman62 about mplayer