[05:06] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, In System > Preferences > Power Management what does it say it does when the lid is closed?  That entry may not exist because the menu layout may be different (i.e. it may not be called quite power management).
[05:06] <Skandranon> 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. anyone able to help?
[05:07] <rames2> hi all, i am having a really hard time getting ubuntu netbook thingy booting from a usb drive... read tons of docs but i don't know how to troubleshoot bootable usb
[05:07] <extraclassic> sisterd: the user would be whoever is logged in that has access to the printer on the computer where it's installed
[05:07] <st> how to convert pdf file to normal format in ubu ntu?
[05:07] <Out_Cold_> rames2, use unetbootin.... problem solved
[05:07] <rames2> out_cold_: is that packaged?
[05:08] <sisterd> extraclassic: that's what i would have thought. But, no user/password combination that exists on either computer is being accepted (it only asks for a pw, no username provided)
[05:08] <Out_Cold_> st pdftotext <file.pdf>
[05:08] <Out_Cold_> rames2, yes
[05:08] <Out_Cold_> rames2, unetbootin is the ultimate bootable usb creator
[05:08] <sisterd> both computers have both users established as a member of the administrator's group on each computer. So, i'm really at a loss and confused why there is even an authetication request in the first place.
[05:08] <extraclassic> sisterd: then it's probably a user/password that you have to assign in a .conf file
 the option is set to bank screen, i have already tried it with suspend, hibernate and shutdown and none of the options work....
[05:09] <sisterd> how/where do I find that information out? never had a password for the printer in the past
[05:09] <rames2> out_cold_: i've ~burned~ 2 usb devices (master is a mac, trying to upgrade crappy netbook to ubuntu) ... dd if=... of=..., etc...
[05:10] <extraclassic> sisterd: if you're using cups then there are walkthroughs if you do a search...i can't remember the files offhand
[05:10] <rames2> out_cold_: netbook doesn't want to "take" the bootable media ... i've been in and out of bios, disabled all other devices, etc.
[05:10] <sisterd> i'm a newbie. how do i know if i am useing cups?
[05:11] <Out_Cold_> rames2, try the unetbootin... if that doesn't work then come back and work on another solution. it's possible your stick just doesn't have a boot flag
[05:11] <extraclassic> you are i think...just find a guide for cups....search for "cups linux printing" or something
[05:11] <rames2> out_cold_: get message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"
[05:12] <Out_Cold_> rames2, what are you doing to get that msg?
?
[05:13] <sisterd> ok, i think i am using cups because when i do a system/administration/printing and check the properties/try to print a test page i get /usr/lib/cups/dnssd failed and then the same but with usb failed at the end for the other isntance of the printer.
[05:13] <rames2> out_cold_: asus eee pc 1000, go into bios, disable all built-in HD's, enable only *detected* USB device and list that as first last and only boot device / boot order / boot priority
[05:13] <geoffmcc> sisterd: although i havent done printing in samba i know it supports. good thing with samba if u create a user and pw on computer a and have same on computer b u will never be prompted for a pw
[05:14] <Out_Cold_> rames2, then most likely, there is no boot flag for the usb... it's all in the creation.. i'm still recommending unetbootin..
[05:14] <sisterd> geoffmcc: I am sorry for such a lack of knowledge. but what is samba?
[05:14] <Arafangi1n> Hey, does Ubuntu 10.4 Beta 2 contain NTFS support by default in Live CD Mode?
[05:14] <MichaelSOG> 10.04
[05:14] <rames2> out_cold_: ugh... any mac-ish ones to look for?
[05:15] <geoffmcc> sisterd: file and print sharing. i use it for filesharing between ubuntu + windows
[05:15] <rames2> out_cold_: i don't have a linux gui box a.t.m... that's what i'm trying to d/l ubuntu for.  :^) ... anyway, i'll look aoround some more, thanks for the tips
[05:15] <sisterd> ok. i'm doing between osx and ubuntu. i take it samba is the proper name for the protocol that begins with smb://   ?
[05:15] <Out_Cold_> rames2, it may be available in mac, i am nearly certain it is in windows
[05:15] <geoffmcc> sisterd: yes
[05:15] <hmorel> okay maybe someone can help me getting school admin installed?
[05:16] <geoffmcc> sisterd: looking threw smb.conf i see setting for printing
[05:16] <Skandranon> 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. after installing loads a desktop picture and nothing else, mouse works, no task bar, will do nothing at all. anyone able to help?
[05:16] <sisterd> geoffmcc: ok. right now, both of my printers are showing up automatically without me establishing the configuration manually like you have to on windows and osx. so the cups vs samba discussion was a mystery but I think I am catching up.
[05:16] <geoffmcc> sisterd: then if u have an account on osx with same user and password as account on ubuntu u will get no password requests - otherwise just log in with aprop account
[05:16] <rames2> out_cold_: http://www.docstechnotes.com/2009/05/create-bootable-usb-drive-using-os-x.html
[05:16] <Arafangi1n> sisterd: Actually...  There's a bunch of names for it, but it's not samba. samba's the only widely used non-microsoft program that can service it, though. :)
[05:17] <rames2> out_cold_: this is pretty much exactly what i'm doing
[05:17] <Out_Cold_> rames2, if you dd'd the image, there may be an fdisk type util (not sure on mac) that sets boot flag
[05:17] <hmorel> help  installing schooltool on ubuntu
[05:17] <sisterd> arafangi1n: thank you. (there never is an easy quick true definition it seems.. but the clarification usually ends up really solving problems in the end.)
[05:17] <rames2> out_cold_: k... and actually i'm reading up at the top "some will function as usb boot some won't"
[05:19] <Arafangi1n> sisterd: The name "samba" was chosen by searching /usr/dict/words for names that contain 's', 'm', and 'b'. :)
[05:19] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Sorry, I was gone.
[05:19] <junior> ubuntu br
[05:19] <EdMoney> I'm getting the error "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you many investigate the problem or try installing again". When I press ok, goes to black background screen with the top line saying "(Process:325): GLib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0), more errors, and then a bunch of Buffer I/O error, dev ar0...eventually
[05:19] <EdMoney> gets to purple screen, but after 50 minutes of waiting, I kill the install. Used ISO ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, running Windows 7 Home Premium, Sony Vaio, 64 bit, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.2 GHz. Any suggestions? I can post pictures of error screens on a forum if helpful.
[05:19] <junior> ???????
okay
[05:19] <Arafangi1n> sisterd: smb, netbios, and cifs are probably as close as you'll get to the proper protocol names, although each of those talk about different aspects.
[05:19] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Hmm I'm not sure.  Sorry.
?
[05:19] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, I mean, I'm not sure what to say after that.
[05:19] <hmorel>  <LinuxFetus> can you halep me install schooltoll
[05:19] <junior> alguem sabe o canal do ubuntu br
[05:20] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Is that a windows-based program?
[05:20] <sisterd> arafangi1n: ok. well i had heard of netbios in the past, and had used but not named "samba". cifs - thjios is the first time i've heard it.
[05:20] <hmorel> no ubuntu
[05:20] <geoffmcc> junior: ubuntu-br
[05:21] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Well generally you can get software by going to the Software Center.  Try Applications > Ubuntu Software Center.
[05:21] <junior> geo
[05:21] <junior> naum acessou
[05:21] <LinuxFetus> If you're decent with computers and they seem to "make sense" normally, you may also want to try the Synaptic Package Manager.
 it doesn't come up
[05:21] <junior> #ubuntu-br
[05:21] <junior> ?
[05:21] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, What doesn't come up?  The software doesn't show up when you search for it?
 yes
[05:22] <teacher> teacher
[05:22] <bullgard4_> Synaptic: "XMLStarlet is a set of command line utilities (tools) which can be used to transform, query, validate, and edit XML documents and files using {a} simple set of shell commands in {a} similar way it is done for plain text files using {the} UNIX commands grep, sed, awk, diff, patch, join, etc." How can I use xmlstarlet to search in the directory ~/abc and its subdirectories for the...
[05:22] <bullgard4_> ...string "abc"?
 please look at here showing my previous problem
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582802
 i am cofused and not know what to do
[05:23] <LinuxFetus> hmorel,  believe there should be something called "add/remove programs" for Ubuntu 9.10, from a quick Google search.  Not sure where it would be.  Maybe System > Administration.  I'll look at the link now.
[05:23] <Skandranon> 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. after installing loads a desktop picture and nothing else, mouse works, no task bar, will do nothing at all. anyone able to help?
[05:24] <EdMoney> Anyone help with this -- I'm getting the error "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you many investigate the problem or try installing again". When I press ok, goes to black background screen with the top line saying "(Process:325): GLib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0), more errors, and then a bunch of Buffer
[05:24] <EdMoney> I/O error, dev ar0...eventually gets to purple screen, but after 50 minutes of waiting, I kill the install. Used ISO ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, running Windows 7 Home Premium, Sony Vaio, 64 bit, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.2 GHz. Any suggestions? I can post pictures of error screens on a forum if helpful.
[05:24] <extraclassic> hmorel: that happens on my laptop, but I just let mine hibernate and don't close it...i just leave it sitting on table and don't take it anywhere though
 <extraclassic> but i am on the go and i need to move from class to class since i am a teacher
[05:26] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Does that mean you won't be able to be here for a while/
[05:26] <geoffmcc> hmorel: is this still laptop freez on lid close? and hibernation wasnt the problem?
[05:26] <hmorel> no at at home now
[05:27] <LinuxFetus> geoffmcc, On the link hmorel gave, it appears it may be a driver issue (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582802)
[05:27] <hmorel> yes for instance if i close the lid regardless the settings/preference i have on the system crfashes
[05:27] <sisterd> ok. lucid lynx... just downloaded an hplip driver for my printer which came as a .run file it has been associated with gedit (dont know why?) and when i open a terminal and type in the command to run the shell script (as instructed at the website) i get a "sh: Can't open hplip-3.10.2.run" response.
[05:28] <zeleftikam> how can i find out what sort of hardware my computer is running from the command line? i'd like to know the processor type and speed.
[05:28] <xbonesx> need help stopping x-server so i can install this... http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.09.html
[05:28] <tensorpudding> sisterd: did you do 'sh hplip-3.10.2.run'
[05:28] <geoffmcc> LinuxFetus: oh ok, must be different from when i had issue
[05:28] <rames2> zeleftikam: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:29] <rames2> zeleftikam: i think... cd /proc and start poking around (carefully! :^)
[05:29] <zeleftikam> rames2» perfect, thanks!
[05:29] <zeleftikam> yep
[05:29] <zeleftikam> model name	: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2374 HE
[05:29] <sisterd> tensorpudding: yes, that is the command that generated the "can't" response
[05:29] <tensorpudding> sisterd: are you in the right directory?
[05:29] <tensorpudding> sisterd: i.e. are you in the directory where the file is located
[05:30] <sisterd> tensorpudding: yes, they told me to put it in my desktop and then do a "cd desktop" before executing the command. so, yes my prompt defines me as in desktop
[05:30] <rames2> zeleftikam: out of curiosity what are your bogomips?
[05:30] <zeleftikam> 4400.17 per core
[05:30] <zeleftikam> what does that mean?
[05:30] <Skandranon> 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. after installing loads a desktop picture and nothing else, mouse works, no task bar, will do nothing at all. anyone able to help?
[05:30] <rames2> i'm showing 3203 on a intel atom 1.6ghz (netbook)
[05:31] <rames2> bogomips == "bogus mips" mips == millions instructions per second
 okay if my first problem can't be fixed can we please work on my second
[05:31] <tensorpudding> sisterd: that is odd then
[05:31] <zeleftikam> rames2» ah. this is a rackspace cloud server. it seems limited.
[05:31] <tensorpudding> sisterd: have you tried right-clicking, and making the file executable?
[05:31] <rames2> it has to do with timing loops for the kernel ... sometimes it needs to wait a second and it kindof makes up "eh: loop 3000 times and that'll be about a second"
[05:32] <zeleftikam> ah
[05:32] <tensorpudding> sisterd: under the right-click menu, properties -> permissions tab -> check the box after Execute:
[05:32] <sisterd> tensorpudding: yes, I have. and, that's where I notice that the file has been associated with the program gedit. which doesn't seem liek what i would want if i want it to be an executable. but that's a guess.
[05:32] <hmorel> anybody,,, help me installing a program
[05:32] <hmorel> ?
[05:32] <tensorpudding> sisterd: if it is marked as executable then double-clicking should ask you if you want to execute it
[05:33] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Alright try putting this in your terminal: sudo apt-get install pastebinit | cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[05:33] <tensorpudding> sisterd: it should say "do you want to run the file or view its contents"
[05:33] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, That installs a pastebin program and then puts the output of that file into pastebinit
[05:33] <sisterd> tensorpudding: ok that seems to have done the trick. just wouldn't let me do it from within terminal for some reason.
[05:33] <Phillys_BigE> Hey.
[05:33] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, It gives you a link, that you can then post in here.
[05:33] <tensorpudding> sisterd: you'll want to run it in terminal
[05:33] <sisterd> tensorpudding: it doesnt let me
[05:33] <EdMoney> Can anyone help with this install error : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576881
[05:34] <tensorpudding> sisterd: hmm
[05:34] <sisterd> but, it seems to be working fine as a self-extracting doohickey
[05:34] <tensorpudding> sisterd: okay
[05:34] <sisterd> tensorpudding: ok, installation notes tell me to enable the universe/multiverse repositories... any clue on that?
 i don't know how to do it, there is a free program i use for giving support called teamviewer can you help me by giving me the support
[05:35] <zetheroo1> I am trying to use Pitivi in Ubuntu Lucid and it won't render anything ... there are no error messages either ... even when run from within the terminal
[05:35] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, did you try the command I gave you?
[05:35] <TiK_> question there is no /dev/dsp so what is my soundcard? :P
[05:35] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, You don't know how to do what?
[05:35] <bullgard4_> Synaptic: "XMLStarlet is a set of command line utilities (tools) which can be used to transform, query, validate, and edit XML documents and files using {a} simple set of shell commands in {a} similar way it is done for plain text files using {the} UNIX commands grep, sed, awk, diff, patch, join, etc." How can I use xmlstarlet to search in the directory ~/abc and its subdirectories for the...
[05:35] <bullgard4_> ...string "abc"?
[05:36] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Please be specific (i.e. refrain from pronouns a bit more than you've been doing) as it saves time.
[05:37] <hmorel> i am a slow typer and i don't know how to use the sufu or respository i am just plain not linux smart so please forgive mehttp://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx?os=linux
[05:37] <Arafangi1n> What's the difference between the "desktop" and "netbook" versions of ubuntu?
[05:37] <bazhang> hmorel, have a read of the ubuntu manual first
[05:38] <bazhang> !manual | hmorel
[05:38] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Do you know if you're using 32-bit or 64-bit?
[05:38] <bazhang> hmorel, not a good idea to ask people to remote your computer
[05:38] <tensorpudding> sisterd: go to Software Sources in the Ubuntu menu
[05:38] <hmorel> 32bit
[05:38] <tensorpudding> sisterd: and check to enable those repositories
[05:38] <lludw> Arafangi1n: one is optimized for a desktop and the other is optimized for a notebook.
[05:39] <tensorpudding> sisterd: most likely they should be enabled already
[05:39] <bazhang> Arafangi1n, small clickable icons on the remix, not very configurable
[05:39] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Oh wow I didn't even see what program you're trying to use.  Yeah, that's not a good idea.  I'm not going to abuse that, but I don't want you to gain a false sense of trust because of someone like me, because while most people in #ubuntu are really nice and you can trust them.. it only takes one to mess things up.
[05:39] <sisterd> tensorpudding: thank you.t hat is simpler than where i was heading (the ubuntu repositories page.. which gives me a terminal command that requires me to know the repository location....)
[05:40] <Arafangi1n> lludw: That is implied...  The question is what's the _difference_.
[05:40] <bazhang> Arafangi1n, I just told you
[05:41] <Arafangi1n> bazhang: So... Different window manager?
[05:41] <LinuxFetus> bazhang, I think Arafangi1n means how is the optimization better: does it have less graphically intensive things that make it lighter, but less pretty and whatnot?
[05:41] <bazhang> Arafangi1n, small clickable icons to bring up different apps
[05:42] <zetheroo1> how do you get the touchpad double-click feature work where you can double-click and dray a window or pull a scrollbar?
[05:42] <Arafangi1n> So it's merely has a different UI that results it being more suitable for tiny screens?
[05:42] <MTecknology> Are any of you using the 64bit flash plugin? Adobe is no longer offering it and I'd really like to get a hold of it. They offered it during a beta trial period. I linked to it on my blog and really should have uploaded the file... :(
[05:42] <bazhang> Arafangi1n, right
[05:42] <Arafangi1n> bazhang: Sounds good. :)  I wonder why they don't say so on the site... "Optimised for smaller screens".
[05:43] <[R]> MTecknology: they just annouced its coming back
[05:43] <MTecknology> [R]: linky?
[05:43] <[R]> MTecknology: google.com
[05:43] <zetheroo1> drag not dray *
[05:43] <Skandranon> one last time b4 I give up for the night: 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. after installing loads a desktop picture and nothing else, mouse works, no task bar, will do nothing at all. anyone able to help?
[05:43] <bazhang> MTecknology, webupd8.org
[05:43] <MTecknology> :D
[05:43] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Are you looking for a 64-bit flash plugin for firefox and Ubuntu?  Someone gave one to me the other day here.  I scanned the binary for viruses using "Virus Scanner."  The person said I could give it to someone else... do you want it?
[05:44] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: sure
[05:44] <hmorel> okay i understand
[05:44] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: fresh install?
[05:44] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 yes.. I went so far as to wipe the partion table
[05:44] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: looks like your profile is not loading for some reason
[05:44] <brent> how do I stream /dev/input/js0 to the terminal window?
[05:45] <[R]> brent: stream?
[05:45] <_raghu> I am running an ubuntu server (aws machine). When I run top, load averages is always above 1, however my cpu utilization is well below 5%. How do I find out whats causing the high load
[05:45] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 total noob to linux, not sure what that means. I did check the disk for errors and run mem test, all good there
[05:45] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Alright I'm gonna send it to you via IRC, unless you have objections (I haven't done this in forever -- is it safe to send files over IRC?)
[05:45] <bullgard4_> What program package provides the framebuffer driver fb?
[05:45] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: sure
[05:46] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: unless you want to email instead
[05:46] <[R]> bullgard4_: none... its the kernel
[05:46] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: can you do Alt + F1 while seeing the wallpaper?
[05:46] <brent> R: how do I print whats currently being sent to it as if it were a file
[05:46] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 let me check, brb
[05:46] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: that should usually show a menu
[05:46] <[R]> brent: cat
[05:46] <brent> cat /dev/input/js0?
[05:46] <bullgard4_> [R] Ah! Thank you very much for your help.
[05:47] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Here were the instructions I was given: http://pastebin.com/KBzwTU2t
[05:47] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: thanks :D
[05:47] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: btw - that's not the best place to put it :P
[05:47] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, you mean the directory in the instructions?
[05:47] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: ~/.mozilla/plugins/ :)
[05:48] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: the directory
[05:48] <nimbiotics> LinuxFetus, thanks again, your tips worked
[05:48] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 didnt know that.. that might help.. I rebooted to see what would happen and nothing at all did.. so I am gonna reinstall and try alt f1.. will return with an update in a bit..ty for the help!
? this is what i got when i typed in what you told me to (hmorel@hmorel-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:48] <hmorel> [sudo] password for hmorel:
[05:48] <hmorel> Reading package lists... Done
[05:48] <hmorel> Building dependency tree
[05:48] <hmorel> Reading state information... Done
[05:48] <hmorel> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[05:48] <hmorel>   linux-headers-2.6.31-14 linux-headers-2.6.31-14-generic
[05:48] <FloodBot1> hmorel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:48] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, no problem :)
[05:48] <s14shyam> hey guys
[05:48] <s14shyam> this is my first day in linux
[05:48] <Guest34273> no terminal como eu faço para atualizar a distro ?
[05:48] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: why are you going to reinstall?
[05:48] <linuxrunner> I am trying to switch to openDNS, but when I enter the addresses, the apply button won't activate?  Can I get an assist?
[05:48] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Don't paste long output like this.. go to pastebin.com and paste it and send the URL.
[05:48] <brent> Thanks R :)
[05:49] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: thanks much :D - they do seem to have released the newer version here too - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[05:49] <zetheroo1> how do you get the touchpad double-click feature work where you can double-click and drag a window or pull a scrollbar?
[05:49] <nimbiotics> ow do i 1) delete an entry from GRUB and 2) have GRUB boot immediately to ubuntu? TIA!
[05:49] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Would you recommend using that link instead?
[05:49] <s14shyam> can somebody help me with compiling software from source. i have the tarball of firefox 4 beta. please help
[05:49] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 after I took the disk out and rebooted it would pass the post line of boot from cd for some reason.. b4 it would reload to the wallpaper, but not this time
[05:49] <Skandranon> would = would not that is
[05:49] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Also, the directory you gave would be user specific, since ~ == /home/[user]/
http://paste.ubuntu.com/495702/ is this correct?
[05:50] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: let me try it first - if it works for me - then it'll work for anyone
[05:50] <bullgard4_> [R] When I cold-started my laptop computer this morning I obtained the message: "[12.787603] fb: conflicting fb hw usage inteldrmfb vs VESA VGA - removing gen." Is my laptop computer configured all right?
[05:50] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: you should not boot with the disk in the drive
[05:50] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: ya, then you don't toss random files on the file system though
[05:50] <[R]> bullgard4_: what did you change
[05:50] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 that is what happened after I took the disk out and rebooted.. stuck on post
[05:50] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Ahhh, true.  I guess if other people use it and you're not too sure about it...
[05:50] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, ctrl + shift + c is copy in there and ctrl + shift + v is paste.
[05:51] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: are you sure then that you installed Ubuntu?
[05:51] <linuxrunner> I am trying to switch to openDNS, but when I enter the addresses, the apply button won't activate?  Can I get an assist?
[05:51] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: or were you running the Live session?
[05:51] <bullgard4_> [R]: I upgraded to Maverick Beta.
[05:51] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Do you have any other package managers open right now?
[05:51] <xbonesx> need help installing nvidia drivers from repository.
[05:51] <hmorel> no
[05:51] <[R]> bullgard4_: upgrades are evil... and betas are evil
[05:51] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, You can't update software but from one package manager/terminal at a time.
[05:52] <brent> So my laptops battery no longer holds a charge. How bad is it for the computer when it's suddenly shut down (for hardware and the OS)?
[05:52] <AegNuddel> How do I upgrade to maverick?  I know it is still in beta
[05:52] <MTecknology> [R]: I've been on 10.10 for ~3mo now :P
[05:52] <[R]> brent: hardware doesn care... filesystem its bad when its not shutdown cleanly
[05:52] <etrnl> So I have a script that relies on gdm being started already, what runlevel would I want to start it up in?
[05:52] <[R]> MTecknology: wow... do you want a medal?
[05:52] <s14shyam> @xbonesx : do you see a green colored icon in the top left area of your screen
[05:52] <xbonesx> I goto /system/administation/ hardware drivers/ and it has an option to install recommended driver for my card, but it just hangs and doesnt install
[05:52] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Well if you're sure, and you trust ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-157896.html) then try "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock" then the command I gave you.
[05:52] <MTecknology> AegNuddel: do-release-upgrade -d
[05:52] <AegNuddel> thanks
[05:53] <xbonesx> s14shyam: no
[05:53] <etrnl> Currently it doesn't seem like it's being run at the right time
[05:53] <nimbiotics> where is GRUB.CFG LOCATED?
[05:53] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, 10.10 gave me some graphics errors.  Try running it live first.
[05:53] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, If you can.
[05:53] <s14shyam> @xbonesx : u sure your internet connection is fine ?
[05:53] <etrnl> All it does is invert the x axis of my touchscreen
[05:53] <AegNuddel> ok
[05:53] <xbonesx> yep
[05:53] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 no I dont belive so.. I had just finashed the install (for the 7th time today) wallpaper loads nothing else... although this time the install screen is telling me that there is a 10.04 installed... but it will not load.. might have gotten a bios setting changed.. gonna check that real quick make sure the disk is set to second boot device
[05:53] <AegNuddel> I will not put it on yet then
[05:53] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, There's a reason it's still beta...
[05:53] <bullgard4_> [R]: Yes. But I would like to talk about a Maverick feature in the local Ubuntu computer club at the Ubuntu Maverick release party next month. So I need to prepare myself with the new features.
[05:53] <[R]> nimbiotics: /boot/grub
[05:53] <[R]> bullgard4_: so file a bug report
[05:53] <AegNuddel> last beta worked out fine lol
[05:54] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, Windows + D is now minimize, though, that makes me happy lol
[05:54] <AegNuddel> nice
[05:54] <nimbiotics> [R]: thanks
[05:54] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: how many hdd's in that machine? Desktop ... laptop?
[05:54] <brent> R: So far I've only had corrupted files from it once... nothing I couldnt fix... I just don't want to mess up my HD or something because I'm too cheep to buy a new battery
[05:54] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, Well go ahead if you want (not being sarcastic), but I think it's better safe than sorry.
[05:54] <s14shyam> @xbonesx : this happens even if youre just surfing. try to stop all other netork activity and then install
[05:54] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: are you dual booting or is the whole drive being used for Ubuntu alone?
[05:54] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, My philosophy for stuff is if it isn't broke, don' fix it.
[05:54] <junior_> #ubuntu-br
[05:54] <[R]> brent: well your hardware will be fine... but your filesytem CAN get corrupted
[05:54] <AegNuddel> good point
[05:54] <AegNuddel> I will wait
[05:55] <thune3> s14shyam: you could look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo , but I'd probably recommend getting a daily of firefox-4.0 from the daily-build ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa , being careful not to update other software and disabling it after you are done installing.
[05:55] <xbonesx> s14shyam: i also have this file that i can run but when i do it says something about stop x server
[05:55] <brent> [R]: what's worst case with filesystem corruption?
[05:55] <[R]> brent: you loose everyhting
[05:55] <xbonesx> "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.09-pkg2.run"
[05:55] <brent>  well I can always go in with a live cd and grab the files...
[05:55] <[R]> brent: grab the files?
[05:56] <lludw> xbonesx: in a terminal window type uname -r and tell me what version your kernel is
[05:56] <isadora> hey all: question. how do i set file permission rules in /sys/class/ for after reboot
[05:56] <image> hi. does anyone know of a program that can do direct-to-dvd imaging of an entire drive?
[05:56] <Jerk_> I downloaded WUBI, which then installed Ubuntu on my desktop. so now I have a dual-boot system, with WinXP and Ubuntu. however, whenever I boot up Ubuntu, my pc reboots automatically after some time.
[05:56] <s14shyam> thune3: thanks. ill check them out
[05:56] <brent> [R]: boot with a live CD, plug in a usb drive, and transfer any files I need, to the usb drive, then reinstall the OS
[05:57] <Jerk_> so, I just wanna know, what is going on? can you help?
[05:57] <xbonesx> lludw: 2.6.28-19-generic
[05:57] <[R]> brent: what files are you going to transfer? the ones off the corrupted filesystme that won't mount?
[05:57] <rames2> image: command line would be "dd" but it is usually unlikely that  it would all fit on one dvd
[05:57] <bullgard4_> [R]: Yes, I was going to do that. My problem is that I need to know the appropriate DEB program package for fb. Is it »linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic«?
[05:57] <LinuxFetus> Jerk_, Wait a bit for reposting a question, (or "bumping" it) if someone knows the answer, they'll answer
[05:57] <[R]> bullgard4_: its the kernel
[05:57] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: both work great :D
[05:57] <[R]> bullgard4_: whatever package that is
[05:57] <trelayne> does anyone know what beam.smp is?
[05:58] <image> rames2: dd would write to dvd?
[05:58] <AegNuddel> bed
[05:58] <bullgard4_> [R]: Thank you.
[05:58] <Jerk> LinuxFeuts
[05:58] <lludw> xbonesx: you want to update the kernel before you attempt to install the nvidia driver
[05:58] <Jerk> okay
[05:58] <trelayne> it seems to run every so often and take up like 98% CPU
[05:58] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: maybe... not able to click anything in this game...
[05:58] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Awesome!  I don't really use flash, except the occasional YouTube video; I think flash ads are annoying :P
[05:58] <xbonesx> i already did
[05:58] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, On the one I gave you :/
[05:58] <xbonesx> lludw: i already did last night
[05:58] <brent> [R]: how corrupted are we talking? wost case I can imagine, you completely trash all the boot code, so the files themselves should be intact unless you somehow managed to trash the HD itself...
[05:58] <[R]> brent: corruepted to the point that you can't mount it
[05:59] <[R]> pretty sure i just said that
[05:59] <xbonesx> lludw: im running 9.04, havent upgraded
[05:59] <[R]> brent: what is "the boot code"
[05:59] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: must have just been the one thing - there's so many incompatibilities between flash versions..
[05:59] <xbonesx> lludw: but i installed all the updates for it tho
[05:59] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, if it's the one I'm using, send me the URL and I'll forward it to the dude who gave it to me.
[05:59] <brent> [R]: Do you know how a computer goes from BIOS to functional OS?
[05:59] <lludw> xbonesx: ok
[05:59] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: I'm trying to one I grabbed - he'll be interested in the link anyway - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[05:59]  * [R] just shakes his head
[05:59] <s14shyam> xbonesx: take a look at the article here : http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=79966. It should give you a clear idea of instaklling from .run files
[05:59] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 1 drive connected.. disconnect the other.. whole drive being used for ubuntu... rebooted without the disk twice more.. once with cd then hd boot order once with hdd first... its sitting on a blank line, passed post, verifiys the drive, and pci devices, verifying DMI pool data (w/e that means) and stops on a blank line... when the cd was set to boot first, it stoped here with one more
[05:59] <Skandranon> line of boot from cd...   if I put the cd in it will boot it.
[05:59]  * [R] wonders why people argue with him
[06:00] <ngephart> Hello everyone. I'm trying to install 10.04 on a desktop machine, but when Ubiquity needs me to tell it how to partition disks, I get a screen that says "Prepare Partitions" at the top but no drives or partitions listed. Any ideas?
[06:00] <s14shyam> xbonesx: but do it onle if the beforementioned way doesnt work
[06:00] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, I'm sure he's aware of that lol.  His job is flash.  What's the game url?
[06:00] <lludw> xbonesx: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.09-pkg2.run requires you to change run levels before it will install
[06:00] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: oh!
[06:00] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: hmmm ... this sounds like something that has been happening here too
[06:00] <LinuxFetus> ngephart, You mean ubuntu?
[06:00] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: http://armorgames.com/play/6898/ninjas-vs-mafia-deluxe
[06:01] <bullgard4_> Synaptic: "XMLStarlet is a set of command line utilities (tools) which can be used to transform, query, validate, and edit XML documents and files using {a} simple set of shell commands in {a} similar way it is done for plain text files using {the} UNIX commands grep, sed, awk, diff, patch, join, etc." How can I use xmlstarlet to search in the directory ~/abc and its subdirectories for the...
[06:01] <bullgard4_> ...string "abc"?
[06:01] <MTecknology> bazhang: spiffy site- thanks
[06:01] <Skandranon> zetheroo1  where is here?
[06:01] <brent> [R]: I'm not arguing with you :P I'm just trying to plan for the worst. I apologize if you think I was trying to.
[06:01] <ngephart> LinuxFetus: I do mean Ubuntu, but I'm referring to Ubiquity, the installer.
[06:01] <[R]> you asked what the worst was and i told you it
[06:01] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: I have two desktops running Lucid and both from time to time will not go into the GRUB menu or boot into Linux (for the one which is not dual booting)
[06:01] <nimbiotics> how can i make GRUB not stop or last the least possible at startup?? TIA!
[06:01] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 I might add that 10.04 was running on this same machine with the same hardware just before the reinstall..
[06:01] <Guest34273> comando para atualizar a distro no ubuntu 10.04
[06:01] <Qwert> I installed bittorrent-gui package from synaptic but unable to open it. How can i open it?
[06:02] <xbonesx> lludw: how do you change run levels?
[06:02] <[R]> Qwert: what do you mean "unable to open it"
[06:02] <lludw> xbonesx: most other linux system use an xorg file but ubuntu went to an old unix system called an rc file.
[06:02] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: have you tried shutting the system off altogether and disconnecting the power, pressing the power button for 10 secs to clear the circuts and then plug in and power back on?
[06:02] <Wiesshund> Qwert its under the internet menu in applications
[06:02] <Qwert> [R]: Unable to see the interface - is what it would mean
[06:02] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 nope but I am about to
[06:02] <brent> [R]: I know. I'm just not sure of how the filesystem functions, as a whole.
[06:02] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: why did you reinstall? :)
[06:02] <LinuxFetus> ngephart, I'm not familiar with Ubiquity.
[06:02] <xangua> !upgrade | Guest34273
[06:02] <xbonesx> lludw: rc.local?
[06:03] <[R]> brent: that sucks
[06:03] <[R]> Qwert: open your eyes?
[06:03] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Yeah, it usually goes there but its not present there
[06:03] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 I updated the ati drivers and then everything got all screwy... being a noob at ubuntu i decided a reinstall would be must easyer than just fixing that.. boy was i wrong :p
[06:03] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: ouch
[06:04] <Qwert> [R]: Huh?
[06:04] <xbonesx> lludw: brb restarting
[06:04] <[R]> Qwert: you said you can't see it
[06:04] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: in the future try sticking with Nvidia when using Linux ;) ... it just seems to be a smoother ride overall
[06:04] <Qwert> [R]: The interface doesn't open. Got it now!
[06:04] <s14shyam> xbonesx: this article has complete explanations
[06:04] <[R]> Qwert: how are you trying to start it?
[06:05] <Wiesshund> i dunno, ive no problems with ati under linux
[06:05] <ngephart> LinuxFetus: Okay. Well, the Ubuntu installer keeps giving me trouble. It's not giving me any errors if I try to run it from the command line, so I don't know what's up.
[06:05] <gryllida> The 'lshw-gtk' program lists my hardware, but USBs are seen as 'controllers', it doesn't specify the device types. Is there a way to list all mice, keyboard, scanners, printers, disks, etc. that are installed on the system?
[06:05] <s14shyam> guys please suggest a good alternative to rhythmbox thats not a kde app
[06:05] <Athyria> This may seem like a really strange question, but how would one go about recovering grub after installing ubuntu? I have three ubuntu installs and one of them ate the grub and I don't even know which.
[06:06] <gryllida> !grub
[06:06] <Athyria> vlc works well for music.
[06:06] <LinuxFetus> ngephart, Can you run Ubuntu live first?
[06:06] <Qwert> [R]: It usually available as option under internet from applications. But it wasn't there. Secondly, i tried running bittorrent-gui from console. Still no interface
[06:06] <isadora> really no help on getting a /dev/* to change /sys/class/dev/ file permissions at boot up?
[06:06] <Wiesshund> gryllida lsusb
[06:06] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, So you can't click on stats or inventory or anything?
[06:06] <ngephart> LinuxFetus: Yeah, I quit the installer and it dumped me in the Live CD. Everything seems to work just fine except that.
[06:06] <[R]> Qwert: so its not that the interface doesn't open... you just dont know hwo to start it
[06:06] <[R]> Qwert: which is completely differnet
[06:07] <Athyria> I checked the grub recovery howtos; they require knowing which ubuntu ate it.
[06:07] <Qwert> [R]: Oh! Then how should I be opening it?
[06:07] <LinuxFetus> Okay, so if you're running live, what happens when you go System > Administration > Gparted?
[06:07] <LinuxFetus> Does anything show up?
[06:07] <[R]> Qwert: you can use dpkg to list the files the pacakge installed and figure out what the name of it is
[06:08] <gryllida> E: Couldn't find package lsusb
[06:08] <Qwert> [R]: Name of what?
[06:08] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 unpluged, 10 sec power button, turned back on.. stuck in same spot. Its my girls pc, no control over what she has in it. I just get to make it work :) So far in the past 3 days I made it go from fine to annoying to not working at all. Shes not happy, neither am I. Spent hows searching online and trying anything I could. Gotten no further in the past 2 days.
[06:08] <gryllida> Wiesshund ^^
[06:08] <[R]> Qwert: the program
[06:08] <Wiesshund> Qwert what client is it? transmission?
[06:08] <ngephart> LinuxFetus: It runs, it shows me partitions. I just resized an ext4 partition and created a new one for Ubuntu -- everything worked perfectly. It's the installer that seems to be on the fritz...
[06:08] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: during installation was it connected to the Ethernet?
[06:08] <magicLemon> =D
[06:09] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 yes
[06:09] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: nope
[06:09] <Wiesshund> gryllida if you type lsusb in terminal it says its not there?
[06:09] <LinuxFetus> ngephart, Well if gparted is showing it, then I don't know what's up.
[06:09] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: maybe try with it disconnected
[06:09] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, I can.. maybe you should use the one I sent :P
[06:09] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 worth a shot, ty for your help either way :)
[06:09] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: maybe... I'm recompiling a kernel now - I'll try after that
[06:09] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: and just skip any online stuff it wants to do
[06:09] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Well i just want to have bittorrent gui, w/o installing transmission/ktorrent/azerus
[06:09] <LinuxFetus> Okay.
[06:10] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: Hugs you you! :)
[06:10] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: did you update the drivers from the ATI website or from the System Updates?
[06:10] <[R]> Qwert: so you want bittorrent... but you dont want to install bittorrent... right
[06:10] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, lol
[06:10] <Qwert> !info bittorrent-gui
[06:10] <Wiesshund> Qwert, you will have to see what the name of the gui you installed is then.
[06:10] <Qwert> !info bittorrent
[06:10] <datacrusher> is it possible on a ubuntu server, text mode installation the resolution of the text mode passes a little more horizontally in a regular lcd monitor?
[06:11] <datacrusher> i mean, theres n x server, gnome, kde... is there something as this "text mode resolution"?
[06:11] <LinuxFetus> Hmm I'll ask one more time --- to #ubuntu: Can anyone tell me 1) if there'd be any reason why my 64-bit processor with 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 run live (i.e. I haven't configured preloading or anything) is only recognizing 3397 MB of ram instead of 4096 when my bios sees 4096?
[06:11] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 ati website.. was trying to fix a problem of any and all media players randomly closing durning playback.. instead the update caused the screen to jerk when scrolling and make it so that nothing could be put into fullscreen
[06:11] <Qwert> Wiesshund: I have installed bittorrent-gui
[06:11] <encircle> hello,
[06:11] <[R]> datacrusher: framebuffer...
[06:11] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: was this with desktop effects running?
[06:11] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, maybe because youre using an onboard vga
[06:12] <datacrusher> [R], how do i change this?
[06:12] <Wiesshund> Qwert yes but is that the name of the executable?
[06:12] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, What is that and can I fix that?   Is there also a full hardware list program (not USB only)?
[06:13] <LinuxFetus> [R], If I tried to explain it, it would only further my apparent stupidity and it's irrelevant lol
[06:13] <magicLemon> hello
[06:13] <Qwert> Wiesshund: How can I run the gui?
[06:13] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, im talking about the gpu interface. maybe if you dont have a vga at all, the memory may be dedicated to that hardware
[06:13] <Wiesshund> gryllida lspci will list the others
[06:13] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 if they are on by default prolly... donno what setting she changed but guessing not that... the card is a ati 3650hd I think, not 100% but its definitly ati 36XX hd something
[06:14] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, I have an ATI FireGL V5200 256 MB.  I don't know if it's onboard or not.
[06:14] <datacrusher> [R], just a sec, ill ask here.. im helping a ubuntu fella in another language channel
[06:14] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, I think it's dedicated, though.
[06:15] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: if the card/drivers can support desktop effects then they are automatically enabled
[06:15] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Is the gui package used to give interface to clients?
[06:15] <Wiesshund> Qwert i think you just click a torrent link?
[06:15] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, well... take a look at your bios
[06:15] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, notebook check says it's not shared http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-FireGL-V5200.2164.0.html
[06:15] <Qwert> Wiesshund: I'll see
[06:15] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, What should I look for in my BIOS?  It says 4096 MB of memory under system information.
[06:15] <nimbiotics> hi ya'll. How do i go about making GRUB NOT stop start ubuntu immediately?
[06:16] <Athyria> Nimbiotics - Set the timer to -1.
[06:16] <magicLemon> everyone know what i need do to my sockets in java using netbeans ide work? i have try to execute this with a simple user, but it's not work... in the root mode it's works
[06:16] <magicLemon> =D
[06:16] <Athyria> In some grub configuration thing.
[06:16] <Athyria> Somewhere. *shifty eyes*
[06:17] <Wiesshund> Qwert try /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.bittorrent
[06:17] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, start stop ubuntu immediately?  Do you mean it doesn't give you a chance to select another partition to boot from?
[06:18] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Yes that is what it suggests
[06:18] <nimbiotics> LinuxFetus: rite. i'd like it to start ubuntu immediately. ive read its possible but all documentation i find is complicated for me
[06:18] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, some firegl permits on bios the user to reserve more memory than its dedicated on the gpu
[06:18] <Wiesshund> nimbiatics you can edit grubs config and add a time delay
[06:18] <datacrusher> search for something like that
[06:18] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: is ti a card or onboard?
[06:18] <Athyria> I want to turn my server install into a workable desktop. Is there any way to do this without a display manager?
[06:19] <nimbiotics> Athyria i cant find 'timer', closest is 'timeout'
[06:19] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, I don't think my BIOS has that... Is it like a number you'd be able to specify?  If so, I'm pretty sure I can't do that.
[06:19] <chelz> Athyria: gnome-desktop metapackage
[06:19] <Athyria> That'd be it.
[06:19] <Wiesshund> Athyria gnome-desktop package
[06:19] <Qwert> Wiesshund: The reason why i went for that is that Ktorrent use to take up 50% of memory
[06:19] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, But is there a way to see how much ram your GPU is using, then, like free-graphics or something?
[06:19] <Athyria> That's... what I'm trying to avoid.
[06:19] <abhijit> hi
[06:19] <abhijit> gm
[06:19] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 card.. just restarted the install with no internet connected, and wiping the drive again. hope this works running out of time b4 I have to leave to go pick her up, was hoping to make it work b4 then hehe
[06:19] <chelz> Athyria: er actually ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[06:19] <gryllida> Wiesshund: Oh, I see, 'lsusb' and 'lspci' seem to list all hardware. Is there an X frontend for them?
[06:20] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: well it should be done in 20 min or less
[06:20] <Wiesshund> Qwert dunno, i use transmission, it works fine for what little i use it
[06:20] <isadora> no one who know udev rules here?
[06:20] <chelz> Athyria: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <LinuxFetus> Oh and here's my second question lol:  Someone suggested that the reason my 64 bit Ubuntu 10.04 isn't seeing my full 4 GB of RAM is because my chipset could be 32-bit even though my processor is 64-bit... so can anyone tell me how to find out if my chipset is 32-bit?  thanks.
[06:20] <gryllida> isadora, #ubuntu-dev ?
[06:20] <Wiesshund> gryllida not that i know of, but that doesnt mean much
[06:20] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: are you letting Ubuntu use the hard drive automatically?
[06:20] <Athyria> No gdm, no kdm, just good old terminal go to shiny graphical thing that I can kill at any time and go back to terminal without some annoying gdm or kdm mucking everything up. How?!
[06:20] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Yeah. Thanks
[06:20] <gryllida> Anyone: 'lsusb' and 'lspci' seem to list all hardware. Is there an X frontend for them?
[06:20] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, go to synaptic and install hardinfo
[06:20] <datacrusher> it should give you more infos
[06:21] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 yea its pretty fast, dont think it will take that long even... I do have twon monitors connected, dont think that might be cause a problem do you? (same as last time i installed and it worked) and yes I am letting it use it auto
[06:21] <chelz> Athyria: install it all, then disable gdm. i'm pretty sure gnome's packages are set to depend on gdm, so gdm would need to be installed
[06:21] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: only have one connected
[06:21] <chelz> Athyria: i don't know for sure though, that'd be something to look into
[06:21] <Wiesshund> nimbiotics edit /etc/default/grub change the time out values, save, then run update-grub
[06:21] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: keep it as simple as you can upon installation
[06:22] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 well I alrdy started it... pull one mid install or power down and restart with only one?
[06:22] <Athyria> GDM does not like being disabled. Not one bit. o_O
[06:22] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: just detach the secondary one
[06:22] <Skandranon> k
[06:22] <Jesdisciple> I wouldn't like being disabled either...
[06:22] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: where did you get the ATI driver from?
[06:22] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: do you have the link?
[06:22] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, What am I looking for?  PCI Devices?
[06:23] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 no, I found it on her pc and that was before I wiped the drive.. was ati site.. i will see if i can find it again
[06:23] <Athyria> How do you apply package changes with a gui package program thingy?
[06:23] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: ok ... so support.amd.com ... probably
[06:24] <Jesdisciple> Synaptic?
[06:24] <Jesdisciple> just hit the Apply button
[06:24] <Skandranon> zeth http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.42&lang=English
[06:24] <Wiesshund> Athyria Synaptic package manager?
[06:24] <Athyria> No... it's KDE. Everything's all scary.
[06:24] <Jesdisciple> lol
[06:25] <Wiesshund> synaptic comes in gnome only?
[06:25] <Jesdisciple> that should be Kpackage then, I think
[06:25] <Wiesshund> yea kbuntu has synaptic
[06:25] <Jesdisciple> yes, Synaptic is a GNOME app
[06:25] <Jesdisciple> or at least I thot...
[06:25] <chelz> you can run gnome and kde stuff on either gnome or kde
[06:25] <Athyria> So what does xfce use?
[06:25] <chelz> i just use synaptic
[06:25] <Qwert> abhijit: Namaste
[06:25] <chelz> and aptitude
[06:26] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, most likely all stuff. you said youre not familiar with the hardware you got there
[06:26] <abhijit> Qwert, hi
[06:26] <Athyria> I'm trying to install synaptic. I can't figure out how.
[06:26] <chelz> Athyria: call up a terminal and use apt-get
[06:26] <qwebirc74580> how to download flash videos from youtube and metacafe and otheres..
[06:26] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, When I go to Devices > Resources, I can see the memory addresses for things.
[06:26] <Wiesshund> Athyria apt-get
[06:26] <bullgard4_> Synaptic: "XMLStarlet is a set of command line utilities (tools) which can be used to transform, query, validate, and edit XML documents and files using {a} simple set of shell commands in {a} similar way it is done for plain text files using {the} UNIX commands grep, sed, awk, diff, patch, join, etc." How can I use xmlstarlet to search in the directory ~/abc and its subdirectories for the...
[06:26] <bullgard4_> ...string "abc"?
[06:26] <Athyria> I can't find the terminal, either...
[06:26] <isadora> not really, gryllida: just need someone who knows udev rules in lucid
[06:27] <chelz> bullgard4_: grep -lr abc directory/
[06:27] <Jesdisciple> Athyria
[06:27] <Wiesshund> Athyria term should be in your programs menu
[06:27] <abhijit> qwebirc74580, wget, xvideothief, or just play them in browser and after they fully played you can copy from your /tmp
[06:27] <Jesdisciple> I just checked
[06:27] <nill> dig  +short  irc.tor.freenode.net  cname
[06:27] <Jesdisciple> and there is a #kubuntu channel =D
[06:27] <abhijit> uralponkhi, ^^^^
[06:27] <Athyria> Wait... this menu seems to have other submenus, but clicking on them doesn't do anything. Does kubuntu have minimum system requirements or something?
[06:27] <chelz> Athyria: ctrl+alt+t might work. alt+f2 almost always works. also yeah #kubuntu
[06:28] <abhijit> !nick | uralponkhi
[06:28] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: ok that's what I found too
[06:28] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/8t5JwnaV
[06:28] <nill> hi
[06:28] <chelz> !hi | nill
[06:28] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: and I am guessing you went through the installation instructions
[06:28] <Wiesshund> Athyria i thin in kde you dont click them you just point and wait a sec
[06:28] <nill> free the fish
[06:29] <Athyria> ...okay, it crashed. It's not supposed to do that, is it?
[06:29] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 hrm... first time seeing this: Instalation failed. The installer encountered a error coping files to the hard disk.   [errno 5] Input/Output error
[06:29] <Wiesshund> Athyria what crashed?
[06:29] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: oh ...
[06:29] <chelz> Athyria: crashed how?
[06:29] <Athyria> KDE. o_O
[06:29] <uLinux> !mint
[06:29] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 wasnt that long after pulling the second monitor cable mid install... and I havent seen it b4
[06:29] <Athyria> Xorg, too.
[06:30] <chelz> Athyria: you might want to start with standard Ubuntu Desktop with Gnome so you can learn some basics like terminal commands before getting into all you're getting ino
[06:30] <martian> Is there a way to attach to the stdio of a process which is not running through screen? (X-less server)
[06:30] <Jesdisciple> 0_0 s/he's a newbie and doing this?
[06:30] <Athyria> I tried that. It wouldn't install. It kept failing partway through copying. Any idea why? Wasn'T the disk.
[06:30] <Wiesshund> Athyria ctrl alt f1 2 etc will give you a console prompt by the way, if you cant get to terminal in kde
[06:30] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/errno-5-input-output-error-639355/
[06:31] <chelz> martian: that's process-specific, usually people just relaunch whatever with the pipes they want. btw there's nohup and dtach in place of screen
[06:31] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, very nice. but I have to go now. try this paste in #hardware, most people there would know by memory if your processor is 32 or 64, memory, vga and stuff
[06:31] <Athyria> The ttyv thingies don't render for some reason.
[06:31] <chelz> Athyria: install pastebinit and pastebin the output you get
[06:31] <LinuxFetus> *##hardware lol
[06:31] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, I think #hardware is invite-only
[06:31] <chelz> !pastebinit | Athyria
[06:31] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, ##hardware
[06:32] <martian> chelz: I'll look into those. It's just a php script running via the commandline...looong process though, and I forgot to screen it :-/
[06:32] <EdMoney> how long would it typically take for ubuntu 10.04 to boot up when using "Try Ubuntu without installing" on a 2 Ghz machine with 4 GB of RAM? More than an hour??
[06:32] <Wiesshund> EdMoney not unless you got a really slow cd drive
[06:32] <chelz> martian: screen and similar tools are good for if your ssh connection dies. you might also have the php script itself write to a file instead of stdout optionally
[06:33] <Wiesshund> EdMoney like 1X proprietary drive slow
[06:33] <davefromcamp> if I want to start mpd when my computer starts how do I do this?
[06:33] <Athyria> Uuuurg.
[06:33] <vasez> Is there a pacage that will check for duplicate mp3s?
[06:33] <Jesdisciple> sweet, I didn't know about the Ctrl+Alt+Fx thingy... glad I found F tho lol
[06:33] <Jesdisciple> F7*
[06:33] <martian> chelz: oh yeah, this is really a matter of I forgot to run the script in a better way and don't want to have to bother driving back to work over the weekend :)
[06:33] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 based on that post I am going to try with one stick on memory (they passed mem test but what the heck) and if that doesnt work I will try with a third new cd (this one passed the check) burned slower and one stick.. but unfortinily I cannt do that now... got to get moving and leave the house... thank you so much for all your help!!
[06:34] <bullgard4_> chelz: The directories which I would like to search, contain html files. I tried grep before I posted here. It produced clobbered output where I could not detect the wanted information. I cannot see how the -l switch would change the situation.
[06:34] <chelz> martian: ah. well i have heard of some discussion out there about it. google for attaching to an existing tty
[06:36] <chelz> bullgard4_: well it'll give you a list of what files contain that string, so you can then filter just through the filename list rather than all the matches grep would output otherwise
[06:36] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: good luck!
[06:36] <Athyria> Chelz, output from what? KDM keeps crashing and the virtual terminals won't display. At least, I assume that's what's happening because it's what happened last time...
[06:37] <Wiesshund> Athyria you started out with text only server right?
[06:37] <chelz> Athyria: you said gnome wouldn't install, i mean from when you try something like   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktiop
[06:38] <Athyria> No, that was a different computer. I have four computers, all of which don't work.. in different ways.
[06:38] <davefromcamp> my xmpc won't uninstall
[06:38] <davefromcamp> any thoughts?
[06:38] <chelz> Athyria: that really doesn't make it easy to help you if you switch between talking about a bunch of different problems
[06:38] <Wiesshund> Athyria yea i am confused now as well
[06:39] <Athyria> Sorry.
[06:39] <fedora_newb> has anyone gotten counter strike source to work on ubuntu on here? Appears as it has been done, but its really kinda laggy for me
[06:39] <Wiesshund> if you pick 1 pc at a time, we might be able to help ;)
[06:39] <magnetron> fedora_newb: there's great instructions on Wine's AppDB for getting good FPS in CS
[06:40] <Wiesshund> fedora_newb steam or retail?
[06:40] <fedora_newb> steam
[06:40] <fedora_newb> Wiesshund
[06:40] <Athyria> Okay, the kubuntu one - it wouldn  install ubuntu, and now kubuntu, which would install, is proving... problematic?
[06:40] <fedora_newb> magnetron, link?
[06:40] <magnetron> !appdb | fedora_newb
[06:40] <EdMoney> goddamn ubuntu, I did "Try Ubuntu without installing", as suggested here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes if you get the error "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error...", it's been nearly an hour, and now that i see the icon "Install Ubuntu 10.04 1 LTS", I double click on it and nothing happens. Why is this so damn slow
[06:40] <marginoferror> Does anyone have ideas on why I might be able to access a host on Windows but be unable to connect on Ubuntu, even though they're on the same network and can access all other websites equally?
[06:40] <Wiesshund> Athyria 1st question, how old is the PC and what version of ubuntu is on it?
[06:41] <magnetron> marginoferror: DNS issues.
[06:41] <Athyria> About ten years, and I'm not even sure at this point. o_O
[06:41] <marginoferror> I am trying to access plurk.com and on my Ubuntu clients I cannot connect reliably but on Windows I can.  I suspected DNS but they are resolving to the correct IPs - however, telnet plurk.com 80 works from Windows but does not connect from Ubuntu most of the time
[06:41] <Jesdisciple> System > About gives your version... in GNOME but I think in KDE as well
[06:42] <Athyria> 9.04, apparently. Odd, since that's the one I've had the most luck with out of any of them...
[06:42] <marginoferror> magnetron: are there any other possibilities?
[06:42] <Wiesshund> Athyria ok, well for starters a 10 year old PC probably wont run ubuntu 10.04 very well. You might want to run a different distro of ubuntu, or possibly puppy which is based on ubuntu but tailored to lower end hardware and old hardware
[06:42] <magnetron> marginoferror: not that i can think of now
[06:42] <marginoferror> Hmm
[06:42] <magnetron> marginoferror: it might also be temporary
[06:43] <Ologn> marginoferror: You want to narrow everything down
[06:43] <marginoferror> It is intermittent but a very persistent problem.  And it only affects Ubuntu, not Windows clients
[06:43] <Ologn> marginoferror: Do a "telnet IP 80" from Windows and Ubuntu
[06:43] <marginoferror> Ologn: From two out of three Ubuntu clients that fails (gets the IP address but stalls).  From Windows it works.
[06:43] <Ologn> marginoferror: Then you will know it has nothing to do with DNS
[06:44] <Wiesshund> Athyria you might also have a hardware issue on that machine since ubuntu install failed and kbuntu is puking on itself. niether is exactly normal for either distro
[06:44] <Ologn> marginoferror: Can you telnet to port 80 of other web sites from them, like www.google.com ?
[06:44] <marginoferror> Ologn: Yes from all clients
[06:44] <Athyria> Far as I can tell, kubuntu always does that. (At least around me; did it on the laptop too) The really weird thing is that it was working just fine before I made the stupid mistake of updating it and had to reinstall.
[06:45] <chelz> Ed_Money: you might try the alternate installer disc
[06:45] <Athyria> Is it a coincidence, then, that it happens now?
[06:45] <Ologn> marginoferror: Also do a traceroute and ping from the good one and the bad ones
[06:45] <bullgard4_> chelz: I followed your advice. It helped! Though it is a bit clumsy. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[06:45] <Qwert> Athriya: Whats the issue?
[06:45] <Wiesshund> If you did a clean reinstall, nothing you did prior would have any bearing on its operation
[06:45] <Jesdisciple> kubuntu always pukes
[06:45] <Athyria> Ubuntu won't install. o_O
[06:45] <Qwert> Athyria: Whats the issue?
[06:45] <Ologn> marginoferror: You want to narrow down every possibility
[06:45] <chelz> bullgard4_: good to hear. learning sed grep and awk is super useful. also a good stepping-stone to perl
[06:46] <Athyria> Well, I just tried to install it on top of what I had before. Bad idea?
[06:46] <Wiesshund> Athyria er yea bad idea probably
[06:46] <Jesdisciple> did you format before reinstalling?
[06:46] <Qwert> Athyria: You are trying to install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:46] <marginoferror> Ologn: From Windows, traceroute gets into a loop between two hosts midway.  But again Windows is working properly.  From the Ubuntu client that is working right now, traceroute completes in ten hops properly.  From the Ubuntu clients traceroute finishes in ten hops regardless of whether the clients can actually access the site or not.
[06:46] <Athyria> Formatting would defeat the purpose of installing it right on top.
[06:46] <Jesdisciple> =\
[06:47] <Qwert> Athyria: Format first, it usually does that
[06:47] <Athyria> I'm trying to install ubuntu. Kubuntu is horrifying.
[06:47] <bullgard4_> chelz: Ugh! You are burden a heavy load onto my back. :-)
[06:47] <Jesdisciple> OSs can't go on top of each other unless u have a virtual machine...
[06:47] <Wiesshund> Athyria its not generaly a good idea to "install it right on top" especially when the previous incarnation got messed up
[06:47] <Qwert> Athyria: Why you want to install it right on top?
[06:47] <Athyria> So for desktop versions it does need a reformat first? I never had any trouble doing this with servers...
[06:47] <Ologn> marginoferror: Does traceroute end somewhere out there on their network side or is it all stars (*s)?
[06:47] <chelz> bullgard4_: you don't have to do it all at once :P
[06:48] <Athyria> So it keeps all the user informations and histories and configuration files, of course.
[06:48] <Qwert> Athyria: Do you want to save data of previous installation?
[06:48] <marginoferror> Ologn: No stars, every host shows proper times and it ends at the correct destination IP
[06:48] <Jesdisciple> I am baffled about what you mean by right on top... afaik Ubuntu won't even allow that
[06:48] <Wiesshund> Athyria thats why you mount those things in separate partitions on servers
[06:48] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple it will, all linux will
[06:48] <Jesdisciple> unless u mean update?
[06:48] <Athyria> I mean downdate. o_O
[06:48] <Jesdisciple> lol
[06:49] <Jesdisciple> I might recall the Live CD option you';re referring to now...
[06:49] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple you you can reinstall, but tell it not to erase the system. which isnt a really great idea
[06:49] <Athyria> So was that why the server had no trouble?
[06:49] <Wiesshund> Athyria i cant answer that because ive not seen how the server was set up
[06:49] <Qwert> Athyria: Would you please address the user you are posting to?
[06:49] <Ologn> marginoferror: Also try "telnet www.plurk.com 443", that is a different port - ssl
[06:50] <marginoferror> Ologn: Again, works for the clients that work (windows and 1x Ubuntu), doesn't for the client that doesn't
[06:50] <Qwert> Athyria: Whats the issue exactly?
[06:51] <AnxiousNut> $wc is giving me false info, when uaing -w option for counting words, it tells me ther eis 15 words only, while in gedit tells 152(true)! How can i get it to tell the correct number of words?
[06:51] <marginoferror> Ologn: Thank you for your patience with all of this.  I am at wit's end ;;
[06:52] <magnetron> AnxiousNut: check if there is any alias for wc
[06:52] <Ologn> marginoferror: I get TTL exceeded when pinging www.plurk.com, which is a little unusual
[06:52] <Athyria> Qwert - ubuntu won't install.
[06:52] <AnxiousNut> magnetron, what do you mean? why alias?
[06:53] <Athyria> Which, on second though, has nothing to do with the not formatting because it didn't even get that far.
[06:53] <Qwert> Athyria: What are you trying to install? Desktop or server?
[06:53] <marginoferror> Ologn: Yes, that happens with both working and non-working clients.  Also, the TTL exceeded message is coming from a different IP than the plurk servers supposedly are on
[06:53] <Qwert> Athyria: Ok.. how are you installing it? Live CD?
[06:53] <okapi14> Hi all, I have a system that hangigng at "loading Hardware", no other error. How can I find the faulty hardware?
[06:54] <Athyria> Qwert - desktop... I'm used to the server which is all nice and friendly and doesn't do crazy crap, but sadly it doesn't work so well on desktops. *shifty eyes*
[06:54] <Wiesshund> Athyria as i said, that machine could be having some kind of hardware failure. it is old
[06:54] <Ologn> marginoferror: I'd also check if I had iptables or ipchains running on the bad machines...as processes or as a kernel module (lsmod)
[06:54] <Athyria> Wiesshund - so why would kubuntu install, then? Or are they really that different?
[06:54] <chelz> Athyria: alternate installer
[06:54] <marginoferror> Ologn: One of them is a fresh install (as in, today) and was working an hour ago.  I'll check but I don't expect they are running anything outside of what is on a fresh install
[06:55] <Qwert> Athyria: No they aren't so different
[06:55] <Qwert> Athyria: If you are using kubuntu, you can transform it to ubuntu
[06:55] <uLinux> how can I make backup of every software installed and its preferences?
[06:56] <uLinux> !backup
[06:56] <Wiesshund> Athyria different installers. 2 similar but non identical apps, wont crash in the same place and time. one might make it past install then puke.
[06:56] <marginoferror> Ologn: Nope, nothing like that running
[06:56] <uLinux> !sbackup
[06:56] <uLinux> !cloning
[06:56] <Athyria> Wait, konqueror was crashing it. Er... nevermind.
[06:57] <chelz> uLinux: google for: list all install packages with dpkg ubuntu
[06:57] <Qwert> Wiesshund: What is he trying to install? Desktop/server? Which OS is he on now?
[06:57] <lazyPower> Having an issue with the beta on updating grub-pc. the update just hangs apt. When i ps aux | grep dpkg it shows its running some kind of perl script update and never finishes.... as in i left it for a day and it never makes any progress. Not seeing the google answer if there is one readily available. Anybody have any ideas?
[06:57] <rww> !maverick
[06:57] <lazyPower> sorry about being vague, its 10.10 beta, x86.
[06:58] <Qwert> lazyPower: #ubuntu+1
[06:58] <Wiesshund> Qwert his 10 year old pc flaked out after an update. but now it crashes even trying to run ubuntu install. kbuntu installed but crashes out of the kdm. I think the hardware is having issues
[06:58] <okapi14> Hi all, I have a system that hangigng at "loading Hardware", no other error. How can I find the faulty hardware?
[06:59] <Ologn> marginoferror: mail for plurk.com seems to be down
[06:59] <Athyria> Wiesshund - it was konqueror crashing it. KDE seems to actually just be fine, aside from slowness. so nevermind on that computer.
[06:59] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Oh.. Did he try to do complete format of it?
[06:59] <marginoferror> Ologn: mail?
[06:59] <chelz> Athyria: you should boot into recovery mode and finish the update, if you haven't deleted yoru old system
[06:59] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Oh.. Did he try to do complete format of hd?
[06:59] <Ologn> marginoferror: I telnet to port 25 of each of its mail servers and it hangs...I'm just looking at their domain
[06:59] <Wiesshund> Qwert no
[06:59] <Athyria> chelz - Are you crazy? Updating's what got me into this mess int he first place!
[06:59] <chelz> Athyria: if you can't boot to recovery mode, boot to a livecd or alternate cd and chroot in, then finish the update
[06:59] <chelz> Athyria: well you're going to need to install those updates sooner or later, you might as well keep what you have if you can
[07:00] <marginoferror> Ologn: Lots of stuff is weird about their setup, they have really desperate and low-budget load balancing.  I just can't figure out the discrepancy between Windows and Ubuntu results in accessing them.
[07:00] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Before coming to hardware fault, we need to check other things as well :)
[07:00] <chelz> Athyria: btw a good way to keep from hectic upgrades is to stay on LTSs
[07:00] <chelz> sorta ot, but worth mentioning
[07:00] <xbonesx> when i try to click nvidia driver rev 180 from hardware drivers and click activate, i get a error messege, http://i54.tinypic.com/2cxdcgh.jpg
[07:00] <Qwert> Athyria: Have you tried doing format of your hard disk?
[07:00] <Athyria> chelz - what's lts?
[07:01] <Qwert> Athyria: Complete format?
[07:01] <Qwert> Athyria: Long term support
[07:01] <Wiesshund> Qwert when the live cd wont boot and run, there isnt alot else to check aside from a bad burn
[07:01] <Athyria> Qwert - I tried using a different hard disk, does that count?
[07:01] <chelz> !lts | Athyria
[07:02] <Qwert> Wiesshund: There are other installation method to comment on hardware.. like the dvd player may be faulty
[07:02] <h3oj> Good night, what's is the command for suspend the ubuntu in xterm?
[07:02] <Athyria> And is it a bad sign when the live cd boots into gmone and then the gnome panel crashes over and over again?
[07:02] <Qwert> Athyria: Good, even that gave errors?
[07:02] <chelz> Athyria: this would also be good
[07:02] <Wiesshund> Qwert that is hardware
[07:02] <chelz> !manual | Athyria
[07:02] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Yeah.. i am coming to it :)
[07:03] <Qwert> Athyria: Have you checked your cd player?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> ive often seen optical disk issues.  Seems either the media is getting really cheap and flakey these days, or the drives are getting cheaper and less reliable.. or both. :()
[07:03] <Ologn> marginoferror: yes, I'm perplexed
[07:03] <Athyria> Qwert - in what fashion do you mean?
[07:03] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis both
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> I tend to generate a bootable USB flash and install from that. Seems Much more reliable. and faster
[07:03] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Yes that is what
[07:03] <marginoferror> Ologn: I feel better now that I am not the only one.  Thank you =)
[07:04] <Qwert> Athyria: Have you tried usb install?
[07:04] <marginoferror> Ologn: do you know of any other places I might ask for help?  Maybe a specialized linux networking channel or something?
[07:04] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis i just unetbootin the iso and bypass the whole cd burn usb thing
[07:04] <Athyria> Qwert - the bios doesn't  support that. O_o
[07:04] <uLinux> chelz: tks
[07:05] <Wiesshund> Qwert the PC is 10 years old
[07:05] <Qwert> Athyria: OH
[07:05] <Qwert> Athyria: Yeah.. surmised it no
[07:05] <Qwert> Athyria: Yeah.. surmised it now
[07:05] <h3oj> What's is the command for suspend the ubuntu in xterm? thx =p
[07:05] <xbonesx> when i try to click nvidia driver rev 180 from hardware drivers and click activate, i get a error messege, http://i54.tinypic.com/2cxdcgh.jpg
[07:06] <Qwert> Athyria: Umm.. Are you sure that the disk reader is not faulty?
[07:06] <Athyria> Qwert - not entirely. But if it was, this would be some pretty selective faultiness.
[07:06] <Athyria> Qwert - Since it seems to work with everything but regular ubuntu disks.
[07:06] <Ologn> marginoferror: You can ask on Ubuntu forums...I would mention everything you did already.  I don't think they'll have a solution, but who knows.  Because it is working for everything except that one web site.
[07:07] <h3oj> i found thx
[07:07] <marginoferror> Right.  Okay, thanks.
[07:07] <Qwert> Athyria: Have you burned the iso or used shipit cds?
[07:07] <chelz> xbonesx: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[07:08] <xbonesx> ty
[07:08] <xbonesx> chelz: ty
[07:08] <dooglus> I'm getting pretty bad 'tearing' while watching videos on ubuntu.  any advice?
[07:08] <Athyria> Qwert - I've burnt them plenty of times. Wot?
[07:08] <Ologn> marginoferror: Also go to http://status.plurk.com first try from one of the machines it doesn't work on
[07:09] <marginoferror> Ologn: That loads for all clients, yes.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> dooglus:  if using compiz, theres a 'enable sync to vblank' (i think) option that helped  my system a lot.
[07:10] <thune3> dooglus: watching web videos or through a player?
[07:10] <Ologn> marginoferror: That is on their 183 subnet.  It has a lot of info on network problems, which is odd
[07:10] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: I have 'visual effects' set to 'none'.  it's an old laptop
[07:10] <dooglus> thune3: local .avi files, using mplayer_nogui or totem
[07:11] <chelz> h3oj: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:ubuntuforums.org+sleep+ubuntu+terminal
[07:11] <Qwert> Athyria: With proper md5 sums check? Usually it doesn't affect but..
[07:11] <Ologn> marginoferror: It says their pingable machine is ping.plurk.com
[07:11] <dooglus> Dr_Willis, thune3: lspci reports I have: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[07:11] <marginoferror> Ologn: Yes, recently the entire site was down.  The problems I have been experiencing intermittently are only since then.  But nobody else I have talked to (none of them on Linux) has experienced troubles with their network since then.
[07:11] <marginoferror> Ologn: ping.plurk.com?  Interesting setup.  Thank you
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> dooglus:  not sure what else to tell you then. mplayer has some flitering options that may help. but ive never used them much
[07:11] <Athyria> Qwert - if that's what a check disk equates to, sometimes.
[07:11] <chelz> !bootoptions | Athyria
[07:12] <thune3> dooglus: you can try the -vo gl or -vo gl2 in mplayer, sometimes the default xv gets tearing (without compiz)
[07:12] <xbonesx> chelz: after i run 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180' then what do i do?
[07:12] <chelz> Athyria: have you tried the alternate disc?
[07:12] <thune3> dooglus: maybe -vo sdl might work, not sure.
[07:12] <Qwert> Athyria: Since your bios is old, we cannot try other means
[07:12] <dooglus> gosh.  I just clicked 'cancel' in the visual-effects dialog
[07:12] <Athyria> chelz - Alternate disc?
[07:12] <dooglus> I only went there to check I had 'none' selected
[07:12] <chelz> xbonesx: after it's done you should have something telling you to restart. even if you aren't told that, you should save your open stuff and restart
[07:12] <chelz> Athyria: yes
[07:12] <dooglus> and hitting 'cancel' has killed my window manager!
[07:13] <Wiesshund> dooglus what kind of laptop? it also might be stuggling a bit to decode the video
[07:13] <xbonesx> chelz: ok ty
[07:13] <chelz> !alternate | Athyria
[07:13] <h3oj> chelz, rly thx
[07:13] <dooglus> Wiesshund: it's an old toshiba satellite
[07:13] <dooglus> Wiesshund: an A210
[07:13] <Qwert> Athyria: Yeah, have you tried that?
[07:13] <chelz> Athyria: what os was your server running before?
[07:14] <Qwert> chelz: I was trying to remember the name :)
[07:14] <Athyria> chelz - An install mode that install prettily like freebsd would? *kitty eyes* Can you tell it everything? Does it go pretty? Is it all lovely?
[07:14] <Wiesshund> dooglus you know what cpu it has? not familiar with the models
[07:15] <chelz> Athyria: it looks like the debian installer, http://www.shtylman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/debian_installer.png
[07:15] <Athyria> chelz - Er, not the server. The server just hates me. This is the desktop. That's not working. Whereas the server is just being hateful.
[07:15] <chelz> Athyria: but still, you haven't formatted and it's just not booting from a bad upgrade, boot to the alternate disc and get a shell, then finish the update
[07:15] <dooglus> Wiesshund: model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-55
[07:15] <Athyria> chelz - Oh... debian... so vaguely prettily? Not gentoo pretty, but still ish...
[07:16] <Athyria> chelz - it's not an upgrade, though. I'm trying to go to an older version. The updates worked... they... did things. Horrible things. Terribly things.
[07:16] <Wiesshund> dooglus oh thats not so old and decrepid :) it should play back video fine, might just have to tweak some with what the others suggested
[07:16] <xbonesx> chelz: after i restarted i went back into /system/administration/hardware drivers and activated, do i need to restart again?
[07:17] <chelz> xbonesx: wouldn't hurt
[07:17] <Athyria> chelz - but now nothing but kubuntu or xubuntu will install, and kubuntu's too slow to change... and xubuntu just doesn'T work.
[07:17] <okapi14> Hi all, I have a system that hangigng at "loading Hardware", no other error. How can I find the faulty hardware?
[07:17] <dooglus> Wiesshund: while playing, the CPU is 75% idle...
[07:17] <xbonesx> chelz: ok
[07:17] <dooglus> Wiesshund: can I find out what video driver it's using?
[07:17] <chelz> Athyria: as in xubuntu won't boot? or what?
[07:18] <Qwert> Athyria: Well if you can install kubuntu, i t would be better to reinstall kubuntu with proper format. And then transform to ubuntu
[07:18] <Wiesshund> dooglus you can click system > admin > hardware to see if its running propriety drivers
[07:19] <chelz> Qwert: a lot of hdd space could be saved by just using the ubuntu alternate installer
[07:19] <dooglus> Wiesshund: I ran the 'hardware drivers' thing from the system>admin menu yesterday.  it told me no prop. drivers we in use or available
[07:19] <chelz> i'd really recommend xubuntu if the desktop is 10 years or so old
[07:19] <dooglus> Wiesshund: but there is a proprietary ATI driver isn't there?
[07:20] <Qwert> chelz: Right if my option doesn't work. Moreover, tranforming would not take disk space
[07:20] <Wiesshund> dooglus there is but it only goes back so far. the older ati hardware isnt supported by them
[07:20] <thune3> dooglus: not 100% sure, but I think your graphic X1200 is no longer supported by the proprietary driver from ATI
[07:20] <zetheroo1> where can I get documentation of devicekit in Ubuntu?
[07:20] <Wiesshund> thune3 it isnt
[07:20] <woodyjlw> anyone know a easy program to change wma into mp3 ?  kicking myself for using windows media player to rip my cd's......kicking myself for using MS to try do anything right!
[07:20] <ibrahim-kasem> suddenly no sound on lucid and to fix this I have to restart.
[07:20] <dooglus> thune3: I'll try different -vo options then.  thanks
[07:20] <Qwert> chelz: I mean after trying your option. he may try what i suggest  (And yes if xubuntu works that's better. And if he want ubuntu, he will have to tranform)
[07:20] <zetheroo1> can you enable SHMConfig through DeviceKit?
[07:20] <chelz> Qwert: i was thinking unless one does a --purge to delete all the kde files, they'd still be installed and taking up space
[07:21] <Wiesshund> woodyjlw ffshow
[07:21] <h3oj> chelz, thanks man, or on apci or pm-suspend. Good night and thanks
[07:21] <chelz> h3oj: good to hear
[07:22] <Wiesshund> woodyjlw windows does rip cd's in mp3 format btw. just have to change the setting in media player.
[07:22] <armence> Hello all. How do I find out where a binary is? I know it's in my path because I can just type its name, but I want to know where it is stored...
[07:22] <chelz> woodyjlw: SoundConverter
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> armence:  'which binaryname'
[07:22] <chelz> woodyjlw: sudo apt-get install soundsonverter
[07:22] <Qwert> chelz: Now if xubuntu is getting installed, forget about installing kubuntu and tranforming. I would like to see if he is able to use alternate install :)
[07:22] <h3oj> God bless, i run
[07:23] <chelz> woodyjlw: then Applications -> Sound & Video -> Sound Converter
[07:23] <uLinux> Why the splash screen doesnt use 1920x1080 resolution?
[07:23] <dooglus> wow, that's great.  mplayer -vo gl (or gl2) fixes it
[07:23] <chelz> Qwert: oh yeah. using a xubuntu alternate disc would be ideal
[07:23] <dooglus> thanks guys
[07:23] <Wiesshund> armence locate filename ?
[07:23] <chelz> uLinux: depends on your graphics card/hardware
[07:23] <armence> which worked
[07:23] <uLinux> chelz: the splash saying Ubuntu is small for my monitor
[07:23] <chelz> zetheroo1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeviceKit and http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DeviceKit
[07:24] <Qwert> chelz: If that what he wants. Otherwise ubuntu alternate disc
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> armence:  'which' specifically searxches the path. 'locate' would look everywhere
[07:24] <Wiesshund> uLinux join the club
[07:24] <Qwert> chelz: You suggested him.. what did he say?
[07:24] <zetheroo1> chelz: ok thanks
[07:24] <chelz> Qwert: haven't seen anything in a while
[07:24] <armence> Dr_Willis, which is what I needed, thanks
[07:24] <Qwert> Athyria: There?
[07:24] <uLinux> Wiesshund: i tried to use startup-manager but it only allows up to 1600x1200
[07:24] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: I prefer 'type' to 'which'.  it's a builtin
[07:24] <chelz> uLinux: some nvidia gfx devices have good resolutions starting up. it really depends
[07:25] <Wiesshund> uLinux the boot logo?
[07:25] <uLinux> yes Wiesshund
[07:25] <woodyjlw> k  thanks guys now I can try to get these wma fixed :)  I knew I could switch wma to mp3 in MS but did not think it mattered till I started using linux and found MS is a pain and intentionally sabotaging files to make it harder for any one ells to use them
[07:25] <uLinux> chelz: maybe i did something wrong but when i boot from livecd it shows splashscreen perfectly
[07:25] <freesbie> Hi, is there a way to limit/restrict the directories with nautilus? Just want to have only the home directory for browsing within nautilus.
[07:25] <Wiesshund> uLinux heh i couldnt get mine to go to 1440X900, so you are doing better than i am
[07:25] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: How to open gtk/ot applications from tty1?
[07:25] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: &Qt
[07:26] <Athyria> Qwert - er...
[07:26] <uLinux> Wiesshund: if i use livecd it looks nice
[07:26] <chelz> uLinux: that's odd
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  type its name...   .. but you mean from the alt-ctrl F1 CONSOLE? and have it run on your X destop? You may need to
[07:26] <uLinux> chelz: btw i installed ubuntu when i had another monitor
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  export DISPLAY=:0.0   first
[07:26] <chelz> uLinux: oh! you must have an nvidia card and installed the proprietary driver
[07:26] <Qwert> Athyria: Yeah.. what is your plan now?
[07:26] <Qwert> Athyria: alternate disc?
[07:26] <uLinux> chelz: i do..
[07:26] <Wiesshund> uLinux yea i didnt spend alot of time fussing with it, its only on the screen for a few seconds
[07:27] <chelz> uLinux: the livecd uses the nonproprietary nvidia driver, which allows for good resolution stuff during boot
[07:27] <uLinux> ohh
[07:27] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: No i mean when one uses recovery mode from boot, tty1 opens
[07:27] <chelz> uLinux: i have nvidia too, that happens to me :)
[07:27] <Athyria> Qwert - I was going to wave a breadstick and command the spirits within to stop dithering about, but that might be a better idea.
[07:27] <uLinux> :) they could fix it :P
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:   those are 'consoles'
[07:27] <chelz> uLinux: you have to pick between having the nice boot resolution and whatever the proprietary driver gives you
[07:27] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: From tty1 i was trying to open network tools
[07:27] <chelz> uLinux: ehh.. i guess they're working on it. talk to nvidia :P
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  you have X going? if not.. then you are not going to 'see' a X gui app from the consoel..
[07:28] <zetheroo1> what happens with nvidia?
[07:28] <chelz> Athyria: how old is your desktop computer?
[07:28] <Wiesshund> woodyjlw the files arent sabatoged, its just that wm format is proprietary. mp3 didnt use to be an open format either once upon a time
[07:28] <zetheroo1> chelz: ^^
[07:28] <Qwert> Athyria: Huh? I am only to trying to help. Sarcasm not the option :)
[07:28] <bobstro> Wiesshund:  is it open now?
[07:29] <zetheroo1> Athyria: ha .. that may just work :P
[07:29] <Athyria> Qwert - that wasn't sarcasm. O_o
[07:29] <Qwert> Athyria: Oh.. sorry i read that wrong.
[07:29] <uLinux> chelz: im gonna send an email to them :P
[07:29] <chelz> zetheroo1: plymouth (ubuntu's boot stuff) supports high resolution splash screen stuff, while the proprietary nvidia driver doesn't (at least with plymouth)
[07:29] <Wiesshund> bobstro well kind of. you dont have to go paying mony for a set of L&H codecs anymore
[07:29] <Qwert> Athyria: What about alternate install?
[07:29] <chelz> uLinux: you could try posting on the nvidia linux forums. that's actually a pretty nice place
[07:29] <Athyria> chelz - oldish. But apparently the main problem is somewhere else entirely.
[07:29] <abhijit> bye all!
[07:30] <zetheroo1> chelz: ah, yes ... I also don't get a highres boot splash image ...
[07:30] <chelz> Athyria: just see if an alternate cd works at all. if it does, you should see if ubuntu is fast enough, and if it isn't, try xubuntu
[07:30] <Qwert> Athyria: Yeah.. read it wrong. What about alternate install? :)
[07:30] <chelz> zetheroo1: yeah. that's the way it is right now with the proprietary driver afaik
[07:30] <uLinux> ;(
[07:30] <Qwert> Athyria: Yes same is what i suggest as by chelz
[07:30] <zetheroo1> chelz: with Intel I always have it highres  ...
[07:31] <Athyria> Qwert, chez - actually, no. kubuntu works as an install. In other words, I give up.
[07:31] <Wiesshund> zetheroo1 yea i dont think intel has any proprietary drivers
[07:31] <Athyria> Qwert, chez - but thank you for trying.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Plymouth is a bit of a 'fail' with my 3 nvidia systems also.
[07:31] <zetheroo1> Wiesshund: none at all? ..
[07:31] <chelz> blame nvidia not plymouth
[07:31] <Qwert> Athyria: Hey!! I guess it possible for you to use ubuntu
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> I do see the Plymouth animations when i close down :)
[07:32] <chelz> Athyria: aw, giving up's no fun
[07:32] <uLinux> Dr_Willis:  me too after fixing splash screen lol
[07:32] <linze> morning
[07:32] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis i see the animations, for the few seconds that screen is up, it just wont go full screen
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> I blame the Decision to include plymouth, and not make a easy option to disable it...
[07:33] <uLinux> or if the image was black you would think it's fullscreen
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  at least you can see somthing. :)
[07:33] <uLinux> yeah
[07:33] <Qwert> Athyria: As you say, you can call us back. Many from channel would be willing to help. Welcome :)
[07:33] <Wiesshund> eh its just a boot screen, not really of much importance
[07:33] <uLinux> for me every detail is important :p
[07:33] <chelz> Athyria: yeah, when you're ready to try ubuntu again you're welcome anytime
[07:33] <Athyria> Qwert -  what about my other computer? Can you fix that?
[07:34] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Well tty1 are consoles right?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Wiesshund:  ive seen several people in here this week that couldent 'easialy' enter their encrypted home/whatever password due to the Plymouth issues...
[07:34] <chelz> Athyria: could try
[07:34] <Wiesshund> I would actualy prefer the old red hat coloured ansi text interactive type start up
[07:34] <Qwert> Athyria: What you want to try on tyhaT?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  You have 7 consoles by default,. alt-ctrl-f1 through F7, X normally runs on 'f7' yes.
[07:34] <chelz> Wiesshund: you can always customize it to that if you really want :)
[07:34] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Ok.. I'll see. Thanks
[07:35] <Wiesshund> chelz hmm, i couldnt find any info on doing that
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !console
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> Wiesshund:   its not real 'trivial' :) unless you use the text option, and launch gdm from rc.local. but thats a bit of a kludge.
[07:35] <Grazih> oi tem aguém aii
[07:35] <Athyria> Laptop, newish, recently reformated. Some arbitrary number of partitions... ubuntu and ubuntu most recently installed. One ubuntu ate the other one's grub or something. But the other other one's grub is the one being used and it's pointing to the wrong things. How do I override it?
[07:36] <Grazih> afim de conversa
[07:36] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Hey! Thats fine. I was thinking if there is a possiblilty to gui applications from console.(Bringing mouse in console to begin with) :)
[07:36] <RealOpty> how can i clone a hdd? i wanna mainly backup my restore partition.
[07:36] <rww> !pt | Grazih
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> RealOpty:  theres sevarl tools to do that. 'dd' can be used. but theres more dedicated tools.
[07:36] <Qwert> Athyria: What is the configuration of other system?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> !info fsarchive
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> !info fsarchivee
[07:37] <Athyria> Qwert - what do you mean?
[07:37] <maestrojed> My computer locked up and now boots to a bunch of errors and ends in a command line called [initramfs]. Following advice I was going to boot from a cd run fsck. But the CD won't boot. It sites on the purple ubuntu splash screen with the dots showing progress. Any help?
[07:37] <chelz> Athyria: you should reinstall grub so that it's pointing to the install you want to use primarily, then once you boot in, install Startup Manager
[07:37] <Qwert> Athyria: What you want to try on it? What is the problem with it?
[07:38] <chelz> Athyria: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[07:38] <Athyria> chelz, Qwert - the problem is, I've tried reinstalling grub. It's not writing to the mbr or something, though, because the old one is still being used.
[07:38] <Wiesshund> maestrojed how long did you allow it to sit?
[07:38] <Qwert> !info fsarchiver
[07:38] <Qwert> !info fsarchiver | Dr_Willis
[07:38] <maestrojed> Wiesshund: not sure, 15mins+
[07:38] <chelz> Athyria: you need to run something like: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sdX
[07:39] <Wiesshund> maestrojed oh :( ok that was long enough then
[07:39] <rickmasta> Hey guys, I just installed webmin, does anyone know how I can go to it by just using the ip? http://<IP_ADDRESS>:10000? Right now, it's saying I have to use the hostname, but I don't have a host name set up yet.
[07:39] <chelz> Athyria: see that link
[07:39] <Athyria> chelz - and I think following what that said may have been what got me into this mess in the first place... or something.
[07:39] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis rather than shooting plymouth, id rather shoot UUID
[07:39] <greezmunkey> rickmasta: try "localhost"
[07:39] <Qwert> Athyria: MBR - Master boot record is for Windows. Is that dual boot?
[07:39] <chelz> Athyria: we can go through it step by step. just boot to a livecd.
[07:40] <greezmunkey> rickmasta: http://localhost:10000
[07:40] <chelz> Qwert: MBR is what dos-type partition tables call the beginning of the disk.
[07:40] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Is that what you were looking for?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Wiesshund:  ive had very few issues with the UUID system.. in fact its saved me many a time
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  i just dident want to flood the channel more. :) i use the app every so often.
[07:40] <Qwert> chelz: Yes
[07:40] <chelz> Qwert: basically all x86/x64 computers use MBR or GPT partition tables
[07:40] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Ok:)
[07:40] <xbonesx> anyone know the directory for xchat? trying to change the conf and prevent file for colors, but the websites default directory isnt where mine was put from synaptic install
[07:40] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis Its not so fun when UUIDs change
[07:41] <freesbie> Does anyone know a way to show only the home directory in the file browser or an alternative file browser which shows only the home directory?
[07:41] <Athyria> Qwert - try quadruple boot with spare hard drive with two more operating systems...
[07:41] <chelz> Qwert: grub docs usually refer to installing grub on an hdd as installing it "to the mbr"
[07:41] <chelz> freesbie: as in lock a user so they can only see their own home dir?
[07:41] <Athyria> chelz - it's booted from the live cd now. Problem is, I already tried that.
[07:41] <Qwert> chelz: Yes. Got that.
[07:41] <Mkaysi> xbonesx: I think it is /home/username/.xchat
[07:42] <abhijit> m back!
[07:42] <Qwert> Athyria: You want to try that?
[07:42] <Qwert> Hello Abhijit
[07:42] <chelz> Athyria: please pastebin the output of:   fdisk -l
[07:42] <Athyria> Qwert - no, I mean that's what it is.
[07:42] <chelz> Athyria: actually   sudo fdisk -l
[07:42] <Qwert> Athyria: also dmesg
[07:42] <freesbie> chelz: not exactly. I just want to limit what's visible in nautilus. I don't mind command line usage
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Wiesshund:  change them back.   ive had to many flash/live installs that dident use UUID's that i have had to fight with,,  many more times the issue for me . then having UUID's change. Actually i cant recall the last time a UUID changed on me
[07:43] <abhijit> Qwert, :D
[07:43] <chelz> freesbie: is this just for cosmetics/looks or security?
[07:43] <Qwert> chelz: He is making it complex i guess
[07:43] <Athyria> chelz, Qwert - I can't paste; I'm on the other other machine and ubuntu versions since 9.something don't by default list universe packages.
[07:43] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit, hi :)
[07:43] <abhijit> ibrahim-kasem, hello
[07:44] <chelz> Athyria: does the computer booted to the livecd have internet access?
[07:44] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis its easy to figure out whats /sda5 sdb1 etc, trying to fix something and figure out what<PHONE_NUMBER>3234 was sucks
[07:44] <RealOpty> someone test this link for me http://realopty.co.cc/muninlite/
[07:44] <greezmunkey> freesbie: check here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/527876/how-to-restrict-a-linux-user-to-be-only-able-to-read-home-user-and-nothing-else
[07:44] <xbonesx> Mkaysi: TY i didnt know you had to put the '~' in front... :p
[07:44] <xbonesx> Mkaysi: why is that?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> Wiesshund:  ive had much more issues with /dev/sdXY changeing. but do what you want. :)
[07:45] <chelz> xbonesx: ~ means your home directory in bash
[07:45] <Athyria> chelz... sort of?
[07:45] <xbonesx> ah ok
[07:45] <xbonesx> TY! :)
[07:45] <chelz> Athyria: can you go to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[07:45] <Qwert> Athyria: You simply want to use ubuntu right?
[07:45] <GhostWolf> hi all, whats the best software for ubuntu 10.04 for webcam?
[07:45] <chelz> xbonesx: you can do stuff like "ls ~" even
[07:45] <Jesdisciple> Ghost: I'd like to know too, tbh
[07:46] <greezmunkey> freesbie: do you see the problem with locking them down...
[07:46] <freesbie> chelz: I'm preparing a locked down account (with gconf settings) for a kiosk. Just need to worry about nautilus for now.
[07:46] <Athyria> Qwert - no, I want my grub to find my ubuntus.
[07:46] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis heh my dev/sdX always changes, depending on what slots i poke the drives back in
[07:46] <okapi14> Hi all, I have a system that hangigng at "loading Hardware", no other error. How can I find the faulty hardware?
[07:46] <GhostWolf> Jesdisciple, i used before cheese, but i don't certain sites didn't detect i had a webcam
[07:46] <chelz> freesbie: i would call that a security context. you should use filesystem permissions for that. that like greezmunkey said looks good
[07:46] <Qwert> Athyria: Is there any data in it?
[07:46] <greezmunkey> freesbie: Ah, got that...
[07:46] <xbonesx> whats the copy file command?
[07:46]  * abhijit is busy finding new 'unique' nick! :(
[07:46] <Athyria> Qwert - it looks like a perfectly ordinary bootloader... except it's all wrong and I can't even find it.
[07:47] <Athyria> Qwert - so... er, yes?
[07:47] <xbonesx> googling NVM
[07:47] <freesbie> greezmunkey: any ideas?
[07:47] <chelz> freesbie: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/05/27/how-to-lock-down-gnome/
[07:47] <GhostWolf> Jesdisciple, so i had to use it on my windows comp but since i only have one monitor and i used remote connection to connect to it, it doesn't do a good job as if i was running it without remote desktop
[07:47] <Qwert> Athyria: Which system are you on now? Old or other?
[07:47] <Athyria> chelz - apparently not from the livecd...
[07:47] <chelz> freesbie: http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+lock+down+ubuntu+account+kiosk
[07:47] <Jesdisciple> well I just booted a 10.04 ISO on VirtualBox and it said I had just under 6 MB on a USB device...  I have an 8 GB USB and no other
[07:47] <Athyria> Qwert - I'm trying to get the laptop to work now.
[07:47] <Jesdisciple> wut the heck?
[07:48] <greezmunkey> freesbie: did you check the link I posted, there are some decent ideas there, but there is kiosk software freely available, have you checked into that?
[07:48] <chelz> Athyria: how do you connect it to the internet? ethernet cable to a router? home wifi?
[07:48] <Qwert> Athyria: Laptop, so it stucks at grub and cannot boot ubuntu right?
[07:48] <GhostWolf> Jesdisciple, did you check to make sure nothing else was on the device? nor refortmat it to make sure its empty?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> freesbie:  i saw a tool called 'Ofris' the other day its a 'deep freeze' like tool for ubuntu.  used by cafes and so forth.  Ive not tried it  but it may be of use to you ---> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/ofris-deep-freeze-like-application-for.html
[07:48] <Qwert> chelz: You want to try network install?
[07:48] <Jesdisciple> I formatted it before booting VirtualBox
[07:48] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple does your pc have one of those instant on OS's?
[07:48] <chelz> Qwert: Athyria mentioned there are multiple ubuntu installs and grub is pointing to the wrong one
[07:49] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: huh?
[07:49] <GhostWolf> Jesdisciple, then i don't know sorry
[07:49] <chelz> Qwert: no i'm just trying to get internet access for pastebin stuff to make the reinstalling grub2 easy
[07:49] <Jesdisciple> here's the guide I'm foloing: http://mintarticles.com/read/operating-systems-articles/how-to-install-portable-linux-ubuntu-on-a-bootable-usb-flash-drive-from-sun-virtualbox,13641/
[07:49] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple expressgate/splashtop/lenovo ?
[07:49] <Athyria> chelz - normally with whatever, but it doesn't seem to work from the live cd.
[07:49] <Qwert> chelz: Okay.. lets see
[07:49] <GhostWolf> does anyone else know a great webcam software for ubuntu? i am using the 10.04 64bit version
[07:49] <abhijit> GhostWolf, cheese?
[07:49] <Jesdisciple> no, I'm running Ubuntu
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  software to do what exactly?
[07:50] <Jesdisciple> on the host system
[07:50] <GhostWolf> abhijeet, is that the best one
[07:50] <Jesdisciple> 9.10
[07:50] <chelz> !usb | Jesdisciple
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  theres 'webcamstudio' thats fun to play with...
[07:50] <Athyria> Qwert - and the grub is only messing up with the new installs; the old install and the windows are just fine; it hasn't bloody updated.
[07:50] <chelz> Jesdisciple: you want a persistent usb install
[07:50] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, everything for webcams
[07:50] <freesbie> chelz I'm using Sabayon (i.e., pessulus + couple of things) and some hand editing of gconf values. Didn't find a way to actually limit nautilus use. I'm checking your links btw. Thanks
[07:50] <uLinux> How can I run an executable in terminal and them minimize/hide it?
[07:50] <uLinux> then*
[07:50] <chelz> Athyria: if you bring up firefox, what does firefox say?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  'everthing' tells me very little..  check out webcam studio i guess..
[07:50] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple yea eh thats not what i was reffering to :) you said your showing some oddball usb storage device?
[07:50] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, i had cheese but aslo when i use a website or even amsn to use my webcam it gave me issues
[07:50] <Jesdisciple> chelz and ubottu: Yes, I was at the Ubuntu Wiki
[07:50] <chelz> freesbie: this channel is for Ubuntu support only
[07:50] <Qwert> chelz: Go to recovery mode and click update grub loader.. let us know what it says
[07:50] <Jesdisciple> and it directed me to the guide I linked to
[07:51] <freesbie> Dr_Willis: thanks for think. I'm cheking
[07:51] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, well its a webcam what do you do with webcam? take pictures, videos have video chat with other people you know. its not that complicated in my book
[07:51] <linze> later
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  webcamstudio is designed to work as a 'middleman' btween your webcam and various chat/video chat programs to let you expand the features of the cam. or even use alterantives to a actual webcam
[07:51] <Athyria> chelz - the usual? Server not found.
[07:51] <freesbie> chelz: Yep, I'm working on a Ubuntu system. Just looking my way around.  There are three... and a cd...
[07:53] <Ed_Money> Step 4 of 7 on install, prepare disk space, my 2 choices are "Erase and use the entire disk" (dont want this) or Specify Partitions Manually, I get to the next screen "Prepare Partitions", not sure what to do. help?
[07:53] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, like i said programs like msn or for linux users, amsn, those kind of things uses allows video chat and stuff
[07:53] <uLinux> if i run a program ./program how can I close the terminal without closing the program ?
[07:53] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: =\
[07:53] <Qwert> Athyria: I mean does the grup load on starting system? Do you see recovery mode option as well?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  so you are looking for a 'instant messaging' client then?  or a WebCam Recorder program?
[07:53] <Kritoslap> Hello, I'm using the latest proprietary drivers from ati and I would like to remove them and install those from hardware drivers. How do I remove them?
[07:53] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple is the dumb sized drive the only one showing?
[07:53] <Athyria> Qwert - I see three.
[07:53] <Jesdisciple> So what should I do to make my 8GB appear to VB?
[07:53] <chelz> Qwert: you sure karmic has the grub option in the recovery menu?
[07:54] <Jesdisciple> and yes it is
[07:54] <Athyria> Qwert - Well, three sets. o_O
[07:54] <Qwert> Athyria: Iike what?
[07:54] <hallelujah> hi
[07:54] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, no im looking for a program that does like what my webcam program in windows does..
[07:54] <hallelujah> new here
[07:54] <Qwert> chelz: Thats what i asking him now
[07:54] <Wiesshund> Kritoslap disable them, use synaptic to download the ones from the repository
[07:54] <Jesdisciple> Hi Hallelujah
[07:54] <Qwert> chelz: as far as i remeber, it does
[07:55] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  I don't know how to disable them
[07:55] <hallelujah> hi Jes
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  i have no idea what your webcam program in windows does..
[07:55] <GhostWolf> like i said i don't know if its my webcam with the other programs like amsn or on sites that give me these errrs
[07:55] <Athyria> Qwert - Each ubuntu listed has its own set of recovery modes listed.
[07:55] <GhostWolf> nevermind then Dr_Willis..
[07:55] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  From were....
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  every pc/laptop i have.. has its own 'webcam' toy programs..
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> The one that came ith my Toshiba - is a lot of fun. :)
[07:55] <cyborgsmurf> any program for ubuntu where you can copy sms from cellphone to PC?
[07:55] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, im not talking about prebuilt ones into laptops..
[07:55] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: the 6MB is the only shown USB drive
[07:55] <Athyria> Qwert - dunno if they're actually pointing to anything, though.
[07:56] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple just to check, pull out the 8gb drive and see if you still see an odball drive
[07:56] <chelz> Athyria: and none of those is the ubuntu you want to boot to?
[07:56] <Jesdisciple> alright
[07:56] <Qwert> Athyria: Thats better. Can you choose recovery mode and inform about what happens on update grub loading option. Try it..
[07:56] <Wiesshund> Kritoslap synaptic package manager
[07:56] <LinuxFetus> Hey, I'd like to suggested that pastebinit be include with Ubuntu by default -- where do I go to do that? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages#Requesting a new package for Ubuntu seems to be for requesting packages to be in repositories.
[07:56] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  I did it, thanks.
[07:56] <Jesdisciple> sec...  I'm having to minimize memory usage to run VB, so xchat gets cut
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  if you want to do .. webcam -> special effects --> Some IM chat program that uses the cam..      webcamstudio can do the 'effects' stuff. If the program handles 'v4l' standard devices.. v4l2 device support is comming soon to webcam studio
[07:56] <Athyria> chelz, Qwert - Oh... they do work. How odd.
[07:57] <GhostWolf> nevermind Dr_Willis
[07:57] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  I am having some major problems with latest drivers. God, never buy ati...and I made a ticket..they don't even care.
[07:57] <Qwert> Athyria: Aren't you on the same system?!
[07:57] <chelz> Athyria: did they not work at some point?
[07:57] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  You pay a lot of money and for what...to only use it with wind0wz
[07:57] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  Anyway thanks very much
[07:57] <chelz> Qwert: all the entries sound like kernel updates
[07:57] <freesbie> chelz: Oh, I meant the sabayon tool (a frontend to pessulus) not sabayon linux :)
[07:57] <Athyria> chelz, Qwert - the recovery modes work. They... one dropped me to a ubuntu... that... I removed? Er...
[07:57] <Wiesshund> Kritoslap sorry to hear that. ive got all ati though here. no troubles.
[07:58] <chelz> freesbie: oh, i was unaware of any kind of sabayon tool
[07:58] <Guest74926> LinusFetus:also imagebinit would be good for nubs
[07:58] <chelz> Athyria: is there any os installed on that laptop besides linux?
[07:58] <Qwert> Athyria: If the recovery mode is working, choose update grub menu
[07:58] <cyborgsmurf> Hi everyone! Any software for Ubuntu that can copy sms to PC?
[07:58] <Wiesshund> cyborgsmurf copy sms from where?
[07:58] <Abhijit> cyborgsmurf, wammu
[07:59] <Qwert> or gammu
[07:59] <cyborgsmurf> Wiesshund: from cellphone
[07:59] <Abhijit> Qwert, its same
[07:59] <chelz> Qwert: i'm not sure why grub would need to be updated if the recovery options boot, which really would mean that if the main ubuntu isn't booting, then the cause isn't grub
[07:59] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - it has three ubuntus and a windows. Telling it to update grub didn't do anything.
[07:59] <chelz> cyborgsmurf: depends on the cellphone
[07:59] <Wiesshund> cyborgsmurf you got me there, it depends on the phone and how it is set up to do pc access
[07:59] <Qwert> chelz: Well i want to see the what it says
[08:00] <chelz> Qwert: ah alright
[08:00] <Qwert> Athyria: Its doing nothing?
[08:00] <Abhijit> cyborgsmurf, wammu has supported cell phone list on their website
[08:00] <Qwert> chelz: Which command helps to see grub version?
[08:00] <Athyria> Qwert - oh, it did update the grup. It just updated the wrong grub.
[08:00] <freesbie> chelz: it's actually pessulus + xephry plus a UI. apt-get install sabayon
[08:01] <Qwert> Athyria: Could you see the grub version? Can you go to tty1 console from recovery?
[08:01] <chelz> Qwert: grub --version
[08:01] <Wiesshund> cyborgsmurf the one phone ive got here that can be accessed via usb uses a propriety app to access the sim memory, and yet the SD card reads like a normal usb storage device
[08:01] <Qwert> chelz: No when in tty1 console from recovery. I hope it works there as well
[08:02] <cyborgsmurf> I will check it out, Thanks chelz, Abhijit, Wiesshund
[08:02] <Abhijit> cyborgsmurf, welcome
[08:02] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - 1.97 beta, yes, and now grub just went away and dropped to an ambiguous maintenance shell.
[08:02] <chelz> Qwert: maybe some kind of dpkg thing to list the grub installed commands
[08:02] <Wiesshund> Ive got a tap cell phone, and ive yet to be able to access it in linux
[08:03] <Qwert> chelz: We can suggest him to open grub.conf text from console and make necessary changes if he knows thepath
[08:03] <Qwert> Athyria: Yes, hold on there
[08:03] <chelz> Athyria: so you're sure you installed multiple ubuntus on this laptop? since even if you install ubuntu again, it should put the old ubuntu in the new grub list
[08:03] <Athyria> Qwert - I don't know the path. I don't know which, if any, ubuntu this grub belongs to.
[08:04] <Athyria> chelz - I was under that impression, but that's not what happened.
[08:04] <Qwert> Athyria: You still didn't say if its dual boot..
[08:04] <Qwert> Athyria: Ok
[08:04] <Athyria> Qwert - I said it's a quadruple boot, three ubuntus and a windows.
[08:04] <Qwert> Athyria: Ok.. yeah
[08:04] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: Yes, I ejected the 8GB and the tiny one (536 MB I think - not 6 MB but .6 GB)
[08:04] <Guest74926> LinuxFetus:also imagebinit would be good for nubs
[08:05] <Jesdisciple> still shows as the hard drive that I'm to partition and install onto... which is rather comical
[08:05] <Qwert> chelz: What can be suggested, installing grub2 can make problems or will it recognise all os?
[08:06] <chelz> Qwert: os-prober, which is part of grub2 and would run during the install, would actually do the job just fine
[08:06] <Qwert> Athyria: All the os were installed propelry?
[08:06] <chelz> Athyria: what version(s) of ubuntu are installed?
[08:06] <Qwert> chelz: Then i guess from console of recovery we can suggest about grub2 installation. Shall we?
[08:07] <Guest74926> how called cross compiler for arm I cant find in aptcache
[08:07] <Athyria> Qwert - they seemed to think so at the time, and chelz - 2 9.10 xubuntus and a 10.04 ubuntu
[08:07] <whosjose> How can I change the smtp port on Evolution? There is no settings to change
[08:07] <chelz> Qwert: i'm thinking checking if any crucial data is in any of those installs, and if there isn't, just reinstalling ubuntu. or at least growing one of them and deleting the other two
[08:07] <chelz> Athyria: why did you install ubuntu all those times?
[08:07] <Athyria> Qwert - and grub2 is installed according to at least one of them. This I remember clearly.
[08:08] <Athyria> chelz - ...reasons. *shifty eyes*
[08:08] <Qwert> chelz: Well that would not be possilbe from console of recovery if that is what he is able to access
[08:09] <Qwert> Athyria: Alright.. Whats the third linux distro name?
[08:09] <Athyria> Qwert -  as in?
[08:09] <whosjose> How can I change the smtp port on Evolution? There is no settings to change how can i do it?
[08:10] <Qwert> Athyria: No prbs. Its fine
[08:10] <juk> can write be used for remote host?
[08:10] <chelz> Athyria: eh well wait, so what's the issue? is the ubuntu you want to use primarily not in the list?
[08:10] <Qwert> Athyria: So which one is working properly?
[08:11] <juk> how called cross compiler for arm I cant find in aptcache
[08:11] <Jesdisciple> whosjose: I don't think anyone here knows, try ##gnome
[08:11] <chelz> !cn | juk
[08:11] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple htm that is odd...
[08:12] <Qwert> whosjose: #ubuntu-server
[08:12] <whosjose> I got it
[08:12] <whosjose> :)
[08:12] <juk> how called cross compiler for arm I cant find in aptcache
[08:12] <chelz> juk: consult the developer documentation for the arm device you are trying to develop for
[08:12] <whosjose> host name ends domainname.com:port
[08:12] <whosjose> easiest thing feel stupid
[08:12] <juk> can write be used for remote host?
[08:12] <whosjose> Thanks:)
[08:12] <Nobody_> ubottu, have ubuntu vietnam irc yet ?
[08:12] <Qwert> whosjose: yes
[08:12] <chelz> juk: depends on the host
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> juk:  what 'write' are you refering to?
[08:12] <Nobody_> !vn
[08:13] <Jesdisciple> ubottu: But it's fun to show how dumb bots can be
[08:13] <zvacet> juk: arm-linux-gcc I think
[08:13] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - The... vista is working properly... the ubuntus, not so much.
[08:13] <juk> Dr_Willis: write(1)
[08:13] <chelz> Nobody_: #ubuntu-vn
[08:13] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - grub's not pointing to them.
[08:13] <juk> zvacet:thanks
[08:13] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - properly.
[08:13] <chelz> Athyria: what happens when you try to select one of the ubuntus in grub?
[08:13] <Nobody_> chelz, ^^ , bot has anwers ^^
[08:14] <zvacet> juk:yw
[08:14] <chelz> Nobody_: ah yeah i saw right after i said that
[08:14] <Jesdisciple> so no ideas how to mount my USB to my virtual 10.04?
[08:14] <deusr> hi
[08:14] <Jesdisciple> heya
[08:14] <deusr> someone the use pack macbuntu?
[08:14] <Athyria> chelz - some drop to maintenance shells, some complain, some do nothing, some result in a system restart. It also varies by which kernel.
[08:14] <juk> zvacet:nopes
[08:14] <chelz> Jesdisciple: the proprietary virtualbox allows block device access to usb deices
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  you use teh Virtualbox version from the VBOX homepage, and configure it to access the real USB device. then use the  vbox menus to actually enable it.. then mount it via the mount command, or it may automount
[08:15] <Jesdisciple> chelz: yes, I'm on the proprietary
[08:15] <chelz> Athyria: is there any data on any of the ubuntus that you don't want to lose?
[08:15] <Athyria> chelz - three even bring up the recovery menu.
[08:15] <Nobody_> chelz, but thank for your help ^^
[08:15] <Jesdisciple> Dr_Willis: I'm not sure I know how to do all that
[08:16] <Jesdisciple> for some reason the Settings dialog doesn't even see the USB
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  one step at a time.. #1  get birtualbox from the Vbox homepage...
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  the OSE version in the repos does NOT have the feature
[08:16] <Jesdisciple> I have the proprietary ;)
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  step 2 - read the vbox docs, to see how to use the feature.
[08:16] <Athyria> chelz - are you suggesting reformatting?
[08:16] <chelz> Athyria: yes
[08:17] <Qwert> Athyria: Yes, if there is no data or if you can take backup
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  ive seen some guides/wiki pages that detail how to do it with images.. but ive not done it in ages.
[08:17] <chelz> Athyria: you can boot to a livecd and recover files you want, recovering preferences is a per-application kind of thing
[08:17] <Qwert> But again window got to be installed after ubuntu else it will get messy
[08:18] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - unfortunately, windows installs do not appreciate being moved, and I have already tried reformatting individual partitions.
[08:18] <docbrown> hey everyone
[08:18] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple what ya trying to do? i dont think i saw the beginning of it?
[08:18] <chelz> Athyria: if you used ubuntu as your primary os for a while then you should try recovering that ubuntu
[08:18] <chelz> Athyria: specifically just deleting the partitions of the ubuntus you have installed manually from GParted on a livecd then when installing ubuntu select "use largest contiguous free space"
[08:18] <docbrown> hey everyone
[08:18] <Qwert> chelz: He said only windows is working
[08:18] <chelz> Athyria: make sure you're installing Lucid 10.04 too
[08:18] <chelz> Qwert: we don't have to move windows
[08:19] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: I'm installing Ubuntu 10.04 to my USB, for plug-and-play Linux action
[08:19] <Qwert> chelz: But how will he use gparted?
[08:19] <dobak> hi
[08:20] <Wiesshund> Oh making a portable linux. what os are you in now?
[08:20] <dobak> fuck windows
[08:20] <chelz> Qwert: standard ubuntu livecd
[08:20] <dobak> fuck ma
[08:20] <dobak> fuck mac
[08:20] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: I'm on 9.10 right now, the physical/host OS
[08:20] <chelz> !ot | dobak
[08:20] <dobak> lunux the best
[08:20] <Qwert> chelz: Ok
[08:21] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple ok in ubuntu 9.10 if you plug in usb drive, what size does it appear as in nautilus?
[08:22] <Qwert> hehe
[08:22] <bazhang> Qwert, ?
[08:22] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: almost 8GB total
[08:22] <Jesdisciple> but it's partitioned in two for the installation
[08:22] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple have you thought about using unetbootin?
[08:22] <Athyria> initramfs...
[08:23] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: it was mentioned, but VirtualBox seemed preferred
[08:24] <chelz> Athyria: ?
[08:24] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple hmm not sure why a virtualbox is preffered, must be some reason i suppose. i use the unetbootin though, great for installs where no usb or cd drive is available too
[08:25] <Qwert> Athyria: Ther?
[08:25] <jimlovell777> I was using Maverick for a while and had to stop because my sound stopped working after an update. I then installed a fresh copy of Lucid. Just an hour or two ago there were a few Linux Header updates. I installed them and now don't have sound again, this time on Lucid. Any ideas?
[08:25] <Athyria> chelz, Qwert - aye...
[08:25] <Abhijit> jimerickson, same exactly same thing here
[08:25] <Abhijit> jimlovell777, ^^^^^^
[08:25] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: from what I can see, it only does Live USBs, not full installations?
[08:25] <Qwert> Athyria: Why initramfs?
[08:26] <Athyria> Qwert - that's what it said. O_o
[08:26] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple it will let you do both
[08:26] <Qwert> brb
[08:27] <AbhiJit> jimlovell777, try insatll alsa-utils package its missing from my pc so check if its there on your pc or not
[08:27] <chelz> Athyria: were you trying to boot to a livecd? or what?
[08:27] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple typicaly you do a frugal install, then boot the installed device and finish it to a full install, theres lots of diff ways to run it though
[08:27] <chelz> Athyria: also, what version(s) of ubuntu do you have installed and what version is your livecd?
[08:27] <jimlovell777> AbhiJit: "alsa-utils is already the newest version." :-/
[08:28] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: frugal install?
[08:28] <AbhiJit> jimlovell777, but6 is it installed there? necuase after updations its automatically got deleted from my pc just 15 min ago
[08:28] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple kind of a lite install, but not compressed like the live CD
[08:28] <chelz> jimlovell777: have you looked over this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[08:29] <jimlovell777> chelz: Yes. I did that with Maverick and it was of no help. Everything is unmuted, supported, enabled, installed and loaded, as verified following the steps listed on that very page.
[08:29] <Jesdisciple> btw, what do you suggest for the partition sizes?
[08:29] <Athyria> chelz - I tried booting a ubuntu that had been fount more recently. It's been sunk too! And the versions are 9.10 32 and 64 and a 10.04 that I dunno, and the disc is 10.04 64.
[08:30] <jimlovell777> AbhiJit: Yes, it's installed and there.
[08:30] <AbhiJit> jimlovell777, ohh
[08:30] <xjkx> br.archive.ubuntu.com is off, what server can i replace it for
[08:30] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: the guide that uses VirtualBox says to limit file space to 3GB - seems small to me
[08:30] <AbhiJit> xjkx, main server
[08:30] <xjkx> which is...
[08:30] <Jesdisciple> his example device was also 8GB
[08:30] <xbonesx> how do you set superuser inside gnome
[08:30] <AbhiJit> xjkx, archive.ubuntu.com
[08:30] <chelz> Athyria: i really recommend booting to that livecd, running a "Check disk for defects", then going into GParted
[08:30] <xbonesx> not terminal
[08:31] <Jesdisciple> file space = /home, etc
[08:31] <chelz> xbonesx: what are you trying to do?
[08:31] <Guest24884>
[08:31] <AbhiJit>
[08:31] <Guest24884> .
[08:31] <xbonesx> add a theme package through the theme installer and it says access denied
[08:31] <in5ern0> hi all
[08:31] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple not sure on the virtualbox guide. how come 2 partitions on the usb drive though?
[08:32] <Guest24884> Is it a Sandisk U3?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  what 'theme installer' are you refering to?
[08:32] <xjkx> AbhiJit: thanks
[08:33] <AbhiJit> xjkx, welcome
[08:33] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: "In order to separate the operating system from the documents you would like to save on the flash drive, it is advisable that you divide your USB flash drive into two partitions."
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  those U3 gizmos can cause all sorts of annoyances. :) i always repartiion and remove the U3 stuff.
[08:33] <Guest24884> yup
[08:33] <chelz> xbonesx: in a terminal you do   gksudo program
[08:33] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: U3?
[08:33] <Grobuonias> c.ktu.lt
[08:33] <Grobuonias> irc.ktu.lt
[08:34] <Jesdisciple> I can't see my msgs nemore...
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> I just use the installer and do a 'normal' install to my flash drives. :) but i have a 16gb flash drive.
[08:34] <Jesdisciple> nvm
[08:34] <Athyria> chelz - and what?
[08:34] <Jesdisciple> only some are disappearing
[08:34] <xbonesx> chelz: i entered that in a terminal and it didnt do anything, it hanged for a minute but didnt do anything... ???
[08:34] <pippo> ciao
[08:34] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: not sure how can i tell?
[08:34] <ish_nitti> Anyone know why the Ubuntu Xchat2 package doesn't include sound for alerts?
[08:34] <ish_nitti> or how i could get them installed? i tried to look for a xchat sound pack on google, but i only found other people with the same issue :(
[08:34] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: USB 3 maybe?
[08:35] <uLinux> any Mint users?
[08:35] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple im not sure it there is alot of point into mounting /home in a spearate partion on a usb drive
[08:35] <pippo> !list
[08:35] <AbhiJit> !mint | uLinux
[08:35] <coolroot--> hi! i got a problem regarding to my ubuntu 10.04...yesterday when i try to right click my mouse i got this options....but now....when i try to right click the mouse...i can't see those options anymore...how can i get back those options?
[08:35] <uLinux> few ppl there :P
[08:35] <bazhang> uLinux, in the mint support channel, ie not here
[08:35] <chelz> Athyria: then deleting all the old partitions and installing ubuntu into the free space. you can resize windows in gparted at that point if you want to, also
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  theres a dozen ways to install themes... start from the beginning and tell the channel in details what you are doing. personally I use the 'gnome-art-ng' program and isntall them to my users .theme directory. I DONT install them 'system wide' so I dont need root access
[08:35] <AbhiJit> uLinux, then try their forum or mailing list
[08:35] <ish_nitti> coolroot--, you switched your mouse to left handed?
[08:35] <chelz> coolroot--: those options chance depending on where you are right clicking
[08:35] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: disk corruption is what I've seen cited in other contexts... still relevant?
[08:36] <coolroot--> ish_nitti: nope!
[08:36] <xbonesx> well whatever is default for a ubuntu 9.04 install is what im using synaptic says gnome-theme-manager
[08:36] <chelz> coolroot--: do you remember where your cursor (the white arrow pointer) was when you right clicked yesterday to get those options?
[08:36] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple for a usb drive, not really. if they corrupt its generaly the entire thing
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  and how are you truing to install these themes? where are they comming from?
[08:36] <chelz> xbonesx: gksudo synaptic-theme-manager
[08:36] <Athyria> chelz - I already did that. o_O
[08:36] <AbhiJit> uLinux, 105 users there
[08:37] <chelz> Athyria: you sure stuff is the way you want it? did you hit "apply" in gparted?
[08:37] <ish_nitti> Anyone know why the Ubuntu Xchat2 package doesn't include sound for alerts? Or how i could get them?
[08:37] <chelz> Athyria: btw make sure you're not deleting stuff you want
[08:37] <Athyria> chelz - the old ubuntus went away just fine...
[08:37] <coolroot--> chelz: i still got my cursor...but i dont know what happnd...just now when i boot up i can't do the rightclick thingy...i can't find those options no more
[08:38] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/unetbootin/wiki/installmodes (full usb install info)
[08:38] <Athyria> chelz - But now the new ones aren T showing up on the grub anymore after the latest attempts to install one.
[08:38] <chelz> coolroot--: those options change depending on where the cursor (the white arrow pointer) is
[08:38] <chelz> !manual | coolroot--
[08:39] <Athyria> chelz - which is a problem.
[08:39] <greenmang0> hello friends, i have multiple printers of same make in different depts over same LAN.. i am trying to add the printer in my lab through cups webinterface, cups finds all 4 printers and displays their names, since all printers are of same make their names are same, how can i distinguish printer from my lab out of them?
[08:39] <greenmang0> of course all 4 printers have different ips but i can't see those ips on cups web interface
[08:39] <chelz> Athyria: when you install ubuntu it should install grub again. backup data you want, delete the old partitions, doubleclick on Install ubuntu
[08:39] <greenmang0> any help?
[08:39] <Jesdisciple> (I just noticed that Xchat has an Open Link in Opera option...  Kinda odd since Opera's not even recognized...)
[08:39] <chelz> Athyria: then for partitioning select "use free space"
[08:40] <chelz> greenmang0: renaming the printers "Printer-Lab01" or something would be good
[08:40] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: figured it out, when i open synaptic package manager it required my password which gavethe desktop superuser priv and then i redownload the theme file and it worked
[08:40] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: or maybe its cuz i typed 'gksudo program' in terminal... ??? idk
[08:41] <greenmang0> chelz: for that i will have to go to each dept and change the host name.. right?
[08:41] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: either way tho i got it too work, ty
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  you use 'gksudo THEPROGRAMYOUWANTTORUNASROOT'   not 'programname' litterly
[08:41] <Athyria> chelz - aye, it does install grub again, but for some reason the old grub is still there. And using free space wouldn't work anyway because of another partition some idiot decided to put flat smack in the middle of the thing. *shifty eyes* But that's another matter.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> !manual | xbonesx
[08:42] <chelz> greenmang0: well you only do it once. depending on how the printers are shared
[08:42] <bill> s
[08:42] <greenmang0> chelz: yeah... that's right
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  you run the synaptic package manager as root.. correct... you have to be root or enter the root password to have the rights to install packages.
[08:42] <chelz> Athyria: you can move partitions around. make it so your partitions are all at the beginning or end of the disk. click and drag in GParted in the Ubuntu livecd
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  theres other ways to install themes on a per user basis.
[08:42] <bill> picocom escape character is C-a, what does this mean? I cant quit picocom
[08:43] <chelz> Athyria: make sure you're actually deleting the old partitions, ubuntu adds entries to the grub menu for other OSes it finds