[02:01] <Seveas> l
[02:01] <Akbar> text?
[02:02] <Akbar> you mean fonts?
[02:02] <dbzdeath> has anyone here actually successfully debootstrapped ubuntu?
[02:02] <digis_> pirast, u should try configing gtk1 fonts, but better use beep-media-player and vlc or totem
[02:02] <pirast> akbar: yes, I mean the fonts
[02:02] <Akbar> those are gtk1 fonts
[02:02] <digis_> U can change fonts in .gtkrc
[02:03] <pirast> How to change gtk1 fonts?
[02:03] <Akbar> what you should do is try to configure your gtk1 fonts through ~/.gtkrc or a app called 'switch'
[02:03] <Akbar> :P
[02:03] <pirast> ok
[02:03] <pirast> thx
[02:03] <Akbar> gtk-theme-switch - GTK+ theme switching utility
[02:04] <dooglus> I'm running KDE.  Whenever I try to start a terminal window, I see "KDE seems to be already running on this display" and then the terminal window closes itself.  WTF?
[02:04] <twibbler> help please ... with rt2400 wireless card ..
[02:06] <Zealot^> quick question: why can't totem play any files at all? mp3, mpg, etc. --- it says i need the plugins
[02:06] <Seveas> !tell Zealot^ about restricted
[02:07] <pirast> !tell pirast about restricted
[02:07] <pirast> just a test :-)
[02:07] <dbzdeath> !tell dbzdeath about restricted
[02:07] <dbzdeath> ha cool
[02:07] <pirast> aaahhh nice
[02:07] <Seveas> !play
[02:07] <ubotu> All work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg
[02:07] <Zealot^> thanks Seveas, i'm reading now
[02:07] <dbzdeath> haha!
[02:08] <pirast> lol
[02:08] <chez> hey, is there an easy way to install the java plugin for firefox?
[02:08] <Akbar> :P
[02:08] <ubuntuguy> anyone: how does the release of debian "sarge" affect ubuntu?
[02:08] <pirast> nice, a chatbot
[02:08] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, not too much, why?
[02:08] <aleksi> chez: ubuntuguide.org tells you how
[02:08] <dbzdeath> ubuntuguy: ... it doesn't?
[02:08] <_nereos> chez:  $ apt-cache show java-package
[02:08] <Seveas> ububtuguide is bad...
[02:09] <Akbar> use http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ :P
[02:09] <Seveas> chez, read wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and specifically the text in bold at the top
[02:09] <chez> ubuntu guides command don't work for that
[02:09] <Seveas> and follow that link
[02:09] <pirast> !tell nvidia
[02:09] <Seveas> pirast, don't play with it
[02:10] <pirast> ok :-)
[02:10] <ubuntuguy> so ubuntu doesn't take very much from debian anymore?
[02:10] <LordBurrito> G'day all.  Is it my imagination, or does "ifup" not behave as advertised?  It appears to be bringing up interfaces not listed in the "auto" stanza?
[02:10] <dbzdeath> bloody hell vmware needs ia32-libs ... i didn't know
[02:10] <VincentMX> why don't ubuntu have netinstall like debian? it would make downloading images faster.
[02:10] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, au contraire
[02:10] <Seveas> VincentMX, it has...
[02:10] <VincentMX> ok
[02:10] <ubuntuguy> seveas: explain?
[02:11] <bimberi> !debian
[02:11] <Seveas> ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[02:11] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[02:11] <chez> _nereos, Package: java-package Version: 0.23~5.04ubp1 Priority: optional Section: contrib/misc
[02:11] <ubuntuguy> so how can the release of sarge not have much of an impact on ubuntu?
[02:12] <Seveas> chez, disable backports...
[02:12] <dbzdeath> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_0.5ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib32/libGL.so.1', which is also in package nvidia-glx does anyone know why i get that error?
[02:13] <VincentMX> hi
[02:13] <chez> Seveas, what then?
[02:13] <dbzdeath> ubuntuguy: because sarge has been around a long time before it was "released"
[02:13] <bimberi> ubuntuguy: what impact do you feel it should have?
[02:14] <kent> I have a python-script that tries to run #!/bin/env python,  but it complains about lack of /bin/env.  Which package is it in?
[02:14] <ubuntuguy> dbzdeath: ahh... ok now I understand. thanks
[02:14] <_nereos> chez:  apt-get update ;-)
[02:14] <kent> sorry, found it. It was in /usr/bin/env
[02:14] <dbzdeath> that and debian is quite different from ubuntu... for example ubuntu has a amd64 release thats marked stable... debian doesn't
[02:15] <dooglus> I'm running KDE.  Whenever I try to start a terminal window, I see "KDE seems to be already running on this display" and then the terminal window closes itself.  WTF?
[02:17] <chez> _nereos, what now?
[02:18] <dbzdeath> um... why is there a package glibc-doc when there is no glibc pacakge..
[02:18] <_nereos> chez:  Try to install the package via apt-get / synaptic
[02:19] <chez> _nereos, nope still can't find package
[02:20] <Seveas> dbzdeath, libc6
[02:21] <dbzdeath> Seveas: sure its the same thing?
[02:21] <digis_> is there any way to install software with synaptic, just using options from shell?
[02:23] <Seveas> dbzdeath, 100%
[02:24] <Zealot^> Seveas: i installed the gstreamer plugins using synaptic; they were downloaded successfully. when i try to open a .mdw file i get the same error. any thoughts?
[02:25] <Zealot^> Seveas: the error is "the stream is of a different type than handled by this element"
[02:25] <Kromonos> when xorg and xfree86 are the same, why upgrading to xorg?
[02:25] <dbzdeath> .... i have no idea what i did but vmware seems to magically be working properly... at least sofar
[02:25] <manu_>  hello.. i just installed ubuntu on a pc pentium 3, but he didn t recognize my network card.. what can i do ???
[02:25] <dbzdeath> *sp far
[02:25] <dbzdeath> *so far
[02:25] <dbzdeath> stupid typing
[02:27] <manu_>  i have an other possibility.. i have a sinus 111 wireless usb adapter
[02:27] <sdschulze> Hi; are there any plans about including software suspend?
[02:27] <dbzdeath> sdschulze: isn't that something in the kernel?
[02:27] <manu_>  but i don t know how to make it work ??
[02:27] <sdschulze> dbzdeath: It is.
[02:27] <dbzdeath> sdschulze: build your own kernel?
[02:28] <manu_> some one knows how to install a usb wireless adapter on my ubuntu
[02:28] <manu_> ?
[02:28] <sdschulze> dbzdeath: I know how to do that, but I was asking whether there are plans about setting that option for the default packages.
[02:28] <dbzdeath> ah i see
[02:29] <Seveas> sdschulze, it's been included since hoary
[02:30] <sdschulze> Seveas: It has?  Sorry, I'm upgrading from Warthy right now, and 2.6.8-5 doesn't seem to have it.
[02:30] <sdschulze> thanks
[02:30] <Seveas> sdschulze, hoary has 2.6.10-5
[02:31] <dbzdeath> YAY! vmware is working... but i'll bet that now nvidia-glx is screwed
[02:31] <manu_> some one knows how to install a usb wireless adapter on my ubuntu
[02:31] <manu_> ?
[02:31] <Zhukov> Hello there
[02:31] <Zhukov> manu_, conceptronic?
[02:31] <Seveas> install linux-686 (intel) linux-k7 (amd) or linux-ppc (mac) to keep your kernel current
[02:31] <manu_> no sinus
[02:31] <Zhukov> c54ru something?
[02:31] <Zhukov> :S
[02:31] <manu_> sinus 111 data
[02:31] <Zhukov> im afraid i may have bad news for you
[02:32] <Zhukov> usb wireless dongles arent very kind with linux
[02:32] <dbzdeath> Seveas: is it me or is the latest kernel seem to conflict with nvidia-glx? i had to install 2.6.10-5 to get both to run
[02:32] <manu_> yes
[02:32] (dbzdeath/#ubuntu) woah
[02:32] (manu_/#ubuntu) you have an idear how to detect the network card manualy
[02:32] (manu_/#ubuntu) ?
[02:33] <Zhukov_> :D
[02:33] <manu_> :)
[02:33] <Albaraha> manu_, did you try lspci?
[02:33] <Seveas> split splat
[02:33] <Seveas> netsplit
[02:34] <manu_> how ?
[02:34] <Zhukov_> conse
[02:34] <Zhukov_> ole
[02:34] <dbzdeath> in case you missed it...
[02:34] <Seveas> dbzdeath, the latest kernel IS 2.6.10-5
[02:34] <dbzdeath> [20:32]  <dbzdeath> Seveas: is it me or is the latest kernel seem to conflict with nvidia-glx? i had to install 2.6.10-5 to get both to run
[02:34] <Albaraha> it's a command, manu_
[02:34] <manu_> :)
[02:34] <Zhukov_> manu_, try lsusb instead (isnt the dongle usb?)
[02:35] <ThePyromaniac> does anyone know why when i install ubuntu and kubuntu on the same pc, same versions and same settings, ubuntu reads "Buffer I/O Error on device HDC"?
[02:36] <Zhukov_> ThePyromaniac, how did you installed them exactly?
[02:36] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, take the cd out before rebooting :)
[02:36] <manu_> and after
[02:36] <manu_> ?
[02:36] <manu_> i have a fritz network card in it
[02:36] <Zhukov_> is the dongle displayed?
[02:36] <ThePyromaniac> indeed, i take out the cd then it asks me to put it back in
[02:36] <manu_> but i couldn t recognize it
[02:36] <manu_> so i trying with usb wlan adapter
[02:37] <ThePyromaniac> it says it cant install some packages. most get thru ok, but some random ones don't work
[02:37] <Zhukov_> ThePyromaniac, try install them without the cd
[02:37] <ThePyromaniac> how can i install without the cd?
[02:38] <El_Che> hi,
[02:38] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, do you have an installed system and are you trying to install extra packages or is this during installation of Ubuntu?
[02:38] <Albaraha> manu_, is it a pci network card?
[02:38] <El_Che> I just discovered there is a HP iso from ubuntu. Do i need to reinstall my system or are the extra packages and setting apt-gettable
[02:39] <Zhukov_> ThePyromaniac, sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list and add a # to the line of the cd (the first i think), then go to ubuntuguide.org and read the part about enabling extra repositories
[02:39] <dbzdeath> Seveas: hm... root@Administrator:/opt # apt-cache search linux-image | grep 2.6.11 linux-image-2.6.11-1-amd64-generic - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 on x86_64.
[02:39] <Zhukov_> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[02:39] <ThePyromaniac> it has installed weird, it gives me command line and i can do sudo commands and stuff
[02:39] <Seveas> those are test builds, unsupported and located in universe
[02:39] <Seveas> moreover: known to be broken
[02:39] <manu_> yes
[02:39] <dbzdeath> Seveas: ah!
[02:39] <dbzdeath> thanks
[02:40] <manu_> pci v2.0 isdn
[02:40] <Albaraha> what do you get with this command:
[02:40] <Albaraha> dmesg | grep -i ether
[02:40] <ThePyromaniac> Zhukov_: that i will try, its almost finished installing kubuntu as a test ^^
[02:40] <Seveas> dbzdeath, so let me rephrse it: the latest *stable* kernel *package in ubuntu* IS 2.6.10-5
[02:40] <Zhukov_> ThePyromaniac, kubuntu isnt wort it :D im afraid
[02:41] <ThePyromaniac> i don't like kubuntu, that's why i have this problem :( i started with it then wanted to install ubuntu. spent 3 days trying
[02:41] <manu_> can t regognize it
[02:41] <ThePyromaniac> i have just reinstalled kub to see if it was hardware or software
[02:41] <dbzdeath> Seveas: yeah i figured :)
[02:41] <haakonn> isn't kubuntu the exact same as ubuntu, just with additional kde packages?
[02:42] <Zhukov_> ThePyromaniac, you can just install ubuntu and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[02:42] <ThePyromaniac> KDE instead of GNOME, changes alot
[02:42] <Zhukov_> and then you can chose wich one to use
[02:42] <haakonn> ThePyromaniac: from kubuntu, just install ubuntu-desktop, and you'll have an ubuntu system :)
[02:42] <ThePyromaniac> so if i have kubuntu installed, i can sudo apt-get install ubuntu? :D
[02:42] <ThePyromaniac> yay
[02:42] <john_> help
[02:42] <Zhukov_> Damn, im i the only one with problems with the backports?
[02:42] <ThePyromaniac> thanks guys, hope this works
[02:44] <john_> can someone tell where to how to download
[02:44] <Ng> john_: what are you trying to download?
[02:44] <Mez> Zhukov_, whats your problem?
[02:45] <john_> video player
[02:45] <Ng> john_: could you give a little more detail? like, what you're trying to do?
[02:46] <Ng> but ubuntu does include a video player (totem)
[02:46] <webtoe> john_: like what sort of video file you want to play
[02:47] <john_> Yes I want to first learn how to download things
[02:47] <webtoe> john_: to install programs?
[02:47] <youngcoder> is there a GUI that will allow me to quickly switch back and forth between different language inputs?
[02:48] <webtoe> yonugcoder: there's a gnome applet which will
[02:48] <youngcoder> i need to be able to type in russian but have no idea how to set it up
[02:48] <youngcoder> webtoe, what is it?
[02:48] <Zhukov_> Mez, broken dependencies
[02:48] <Seveas> john_, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:48] <webtoe> youngcoder: actually, it is just for keyboard input? the keyboard input applet
[02:48] <El_Che> I just discovered there is a HP iso from ubuntu. Do i need to reinstall my system or are the extra packages and setting apt-gettable
[02:48] <bz0b> hey guys
[02:49] <bz0b> does anyone recommend toshiba notebooks for linux?
[02:49] <youngcoder> webtoe, yes.. sort of like windows will allow you to change your imput to a different language in the Regional Settings
[02:49] <john_> I 'am new to linux you can put what I know in eye drop
[02:49] <webtoe> youngcoder: right click on the gnome panel at the top of the screen and select 'add to panel'
[02:49] <bilbo> How can I access my Windows partition from within Linux
[02:49] <g0su> hola
[02:49] <webtoe> youngcoder: then choose the keyboard indicator selection
[02:50] <dbee> Hi guys, newbie question here ... I'm hooking ubuntu up to dyndns as per unofficial guide ... the script has created a ipcheck.err file somewhere that I have to delete ... unfortunately I can't find it ... I've tried 'whereis ipcheck.err', also 'find ipcheck.err' and 'ls -all directory' ... anybody got a suggestion ?
[02:50] <Seveas> bilbo: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[02:50] <bz0b> bilbo, google ubuntu faq, an it should be the first link
[02:50] <Seveas> dbee, sudo updatedb
[02:50] <bz0b> and look through that
[02:50] <youngcoder> webtoe, thank you very much
[02:50] <Seveas> [wait a while]
[02:50] <bz0b> hey Seveas
[02:50] <Seveas> slocate ipcheck.err
[02:51] <dbee> Seveas: updatedb ??? would that work ??
[02:51] <webtoe> dbee: and to use the find command type find / -name ipcheck.err but it will take aggggges
[02:51] <Seveas> dbee, that updates the slocate database :)
[02:51] <bz0b> Seveas, in your opinion, do toshiba notebooks make good linux notebooks? as where as compatibilty wise, i already know the atheros wireless card it comes with would be, but in general?
[02:52] <Seveas> bz0b, wouldn't know
[02:52] <Ng> bz0b: www.linux-laptop.net is a good place to investigate compatibility
[02:52] <webtoe> bz0b: it all depends on what's inside each particular laptop. check google
[02:52] <bz0b> Ng thanks
[02:52] <dbee> Seveas webtoe: nice one guys ... I'll try those now :-)
[02:53] <koka> anyone get skype installed on amd64 ubuntu system?
[02:53] <phen> bz0b: check www.tux-mobile.org
[02:53] <bz0b> k
[02:53] <phen> or the wiki on ubuntu.com
[02:53] <bz0b> k
[02:53] <webtoe> koka: i think peopel were saying yesterday that there might be probelms on amd64
[02:53] <Ng> not problems as such
[02:53] <koka> thanks
[02:53] <webtoe> koka: though i could be wrong. have you tried google?
[02:53] <Ng> it works fine on amd64
[02:53] <bz0b> phen, sure its not tuxmobil.org?
[02:54] <Ng> there are just some things that don't work in 64bit because they are 32bit
[02:54] <phen> well try it :)
[02:54] <webtoe> Ng: i only vaguely remember the conversation, wasn't paying attentino :P
[02:54] <john_> ng  where should I look to learn todownload doc's gide what
[02:54] <bz0b> I did
[02:54] <bz0b> and it didnt work
[02:54] <phen> then without -
[02:54] <phen> it is mobilE
[02:54] <phen> the e at the end
[02:54] <Ng> webtoe: s'ok, it'd be pretty hard to keep track of everything said in here at some times :)
[02:55] <Ng> john_: I'm not quite sure what you mean?
[02:55] <Ng> john_: if you're looking for general linux docs/guides, www.tldp.org has lots
[02:56] <Zhukov> hey anyone have the package?
[02:57] <john_> Ng I didn't get book with this dic lost
[02:58] <john_> I've been xp user
[02:59] <Whistler> good for you
[02:59] <Whistler> :)
[02:59] <ThePyromaniac> if i run apt-get install ubuntu should i run remove kubuntu after? or shud i purge? i forget how
[02:59] <TraceGreen> Hello, i want to a light file manager for copying and deleting files , any ideas?
[02:59] <Zhukov> TraceGreen, xffm
[02:59] <webtoe> TraceGreen: this for the command line or for GUI?
[03:00] <survivor> Is there anything close to Windows' Explorer for ubuntu? Like, with a tree view?
[03:00] <webtoe> survivor: nautilus has a tree view
[03:00] <Zhukov> ThePyromaniac, if you aint gonna use kubuntu remove it after
[03:00] <TraceGreen> Zhukov, I want a gui tool
[03:00] <Zhukov> survivor, nautilus
[03:00] <survivor> I couldn't find it then
[03:00] <Zhukov> TraceGreen, xffm
[03:00] <ThePyromaniac> would it be like dual boot then if i leave kubuntu there? or would it just be wasted space i cant log into?
[03:00] <Seveas> survivor, you can make nautilus use browser mode
[03:00] <Zhukov> Did anyone found a package called transcode???Please!
[03:00] <Seveas> open the nautilus preferences and go to the 'behaviour' tab
[03:00] <webtoe> survivor: in nautilus go to edit > preferences and on the second tab select browser mode
[03:01] <Seveas> Zhukov, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:01] <survivor> I'll try it, thanks!
[03:01] <webtoe> survivor: and once nautilus is in browser mode on the left hand side there's a drop down menu where you can select tree
[03:01] <taw> how can i make mails sent by postfix not be considered spam ;-p ?
[03:02] <Seveas> by not advertising viagra in them...
[03:02] <taw> it might have to do something with the HELO/EHLO request, it probably doesn't know my fqdn
[03:02] <youngcoder> bah i cant find a driver for my printer
[03:02] <Seveas> taw, edit /etc/mailname
[03:02] <Seveas> make sure it has your hostname in it
[03:02] <taw> (it worked in debian's exim, week ago)
[03:02] <Kromonos> ok, xorg is running but my resulution ist still 640x480 and I cannot scale it up :( apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work. What else can I do?
[03:03] <Seveas> Kromonos: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:03] <Zhukov> Seveas, you go to heaven for this
[03:03] <youngcoder> anyone use a Lexmark P6250?
[03:05] <bilbo> Seveas: thanks - very helpful piece of code!
[03:05] <taw> nice, it seems to work
[03:06] <Chrustinho> does anybody run Gajim 0.8 successfully with Ubuntu?
[03:07] <grint> Chrustinho: : i use gajim 0.8 on hoary amd64 withou problems
[03:07] <Chrustinho> grint: did you compiled it by yourself or used a package?
[03:08] <grint> Chrustinho: i compile it
[03:08] <Chrustinho> grint: ok, i search a package for Ubuntu :)
[03:09] <youngcoder> anyone use a Lexmark P6250 printer?
[03:10] <ixiz> does Ubuntu don't have the 'import' command?
[03:10] <ixiz> How do I get that?
[03:10] <vertz> i got a minor problem, my norwegian charatures dont work properly, i see them as they should be, but for others they look like weird chars.. whats wrong?
[03:10] <webtoe> youngcoder: i doni't think anyone does use that printer. have you looked at www.linux-printing.org
[03:11] <webtoe> ixiz: what do you mean by import command? import what?
[03:11] <youngcoder> webtoe, yes i have looked everywhere
[03:11] <vertz> ixiz: import comes with imagemagick
[03:11] <ixiz> yes I ment that import to make screenshots :)
[03:12] <vertz> install imagemagick
[03:12] <vertz> : >
[03:12] <ixiz> another problem I have is, when I try to do sudo apt-get install irssi
[03:12] <ixiz> I get E: Package irssi has no installation candidate
[03:13] <Seveas> ixiz, enable network downloads...
[03:13] <Seveas> !info irssi
[03:13] <Seveas> !info irssi-text
[03:13] <ubotu> irssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 779 kB, Installed size: 2520 kB
[03:13] <ixiz> network downloads?
[03:13] <youngcoder> this is very annoying
[03:13] <Seveas> right, the package is called issi-text :)
[03:13] <youngcoder> i bought the one printer that doesnt have a linux driver
[03:13] <ixiz> so I should apt-get install irssi-text ?
[03:13] <Seveas> yes
[03:13] <thoreauputic> Seveas: is it OK to pm you briefly re: our conversation yesterday?
[03:14] <Seveas> thoreauputic, very briefly - am about to leave :)
[03:14] <thoreauputic> OK
[03:14] <Zhukov> Thanks Seveas
[03:15] <janne__> hi all!
[03:15] <webtoe> sorry youngcoder. linuxprinting.org appears down to me but google doesn't turn anything up.
[03:15] <janne__> help me in this: Where goes my installed progs when i use wine?
[03:16] <Zhukov> janne__, /home/username/.wine
[03:16] <janne__> i see....i check
[03:16] <Zhukov> there is something there like fake c or fake windows
[03:17] <codomaniac> !autoconf
[03:17] <ubotu> codomaniac: Syntax error in line 1
[03:18] <can-o-worms> when i do make menuconfig the setting from the current kernel are being read from somewhere... can someone tell me how to stop that
[03:18] <can-o-worms> ?
[03:18] <codomaniac> !ubotu
[03:18] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:18] <codomaniac> !aclocal
[03:18] <ubotu> codomaniac: No idea
[03:18] <webtoe> !info aclocal
[03:19] <codomaniac> !info aclocal
[03:20] <Ng> can-o-worms: in the top level of the kernel source check for a .config file and move it out of the way
[03:20] <codomaniac> webtoe, you there ?
[03:20] <Ng> codomaniac: what are you trying to find out?
[03:20] <webtoe> yeah
[03:20] <Ng> ignore ubotu, it's stupid ;)
[03:20] <webtoe> what you looking for?
[03:20] <webtoe> info is usd to look up packages
[03:20] <codomaniac> heh it is like emacs M-X doctor program :) ?
[03:20] <webtoe> lol
[03:20] <webtoe> how are you feeling.....
[03:20] <janne__> i dont have director like .wine....but program is working....strange
[03:21] <webtoe> :P
[03:21] <codomaniac> hmm i am doing CVS install of E17 ;)
[03:21] <codomaniac> did CVS download
[03:21] <janne__> cd ./.wine
[03:21] <{Seb}> what is going on with backports?
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> can anyone lend a hand with my DHCP server config? it says "No subnet declaration for eth1 (<IP_ADDRESS>). Not configured to listen on any interfaces!", but i don't see where to add one in
[03:21] <can-o-worms> Ng: i can do that... but i downloaded the source from kernel.org, but it still managed to find all this crap from somewhere
[03:21] <codomaniac> now acc to the INSTALL there in the dir I am supposed to ./autogen.sh
[03:21] <{Seb}> no new packages? no posts being answered on forums
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> i havent had this problem b efore :|
[03:21] <codomaniac> but when i run that i get this error ./autogen.sh: line 8: aclocal: command not found
[03:21] <Ng> can-o-worms: that's quite odd, I don't think it should be doing that
[03:22] <codomaniac> why is that any idea webtoe ?
[03:22] <codomaniac> Ng, also noticed my problem ?
[03:22] <webtoe> codomaniac: hmmm that's strange. aclocal is to do with language settings etc.
[03:22] <Ng> codomaniac: you need to install the automake package
[03:22] <Zhukov> anyone uses pan here?
[03:22] <codomaniac> umm. okay
[03:22] <webtoe> codomanias: Ng is right me thinks....s/he always is....
[03:22] <Ng> codomaniac: or possibly automake1.4
[03:23] <Ng> webtoe: I am not always right ;)
[03:23] <can-o-worms> Ng: it did it again, i moved .config, but it still knows
[03:23] <webtoe> :P
[03:23] <codomaniac> will do an apt-get install automake :) ng ?
[03:23] <Ng> codomaniac: should be ok :)
[03:24] <codomaniac> aclocal is part of that ? Ng ?
[03:24] <Ng> can-o-worms: hmm, I'm just wondering if it's the default config and looks like the ubuntu one
[03:24] <Ng> codomaniac: yes
[03:24] <codomaniac> ah fine.
[03:25] <can-o-worms> Ng: not a chance, i have some pretty specific stuff set up in the graphics support section for a matrox card
[03:25] <webtoe> Ng: I don't suppose you have any good ideas for learning to program C? resources etc.? under linux...
[03:25] <Subson1x> hi. someone wants to help me with www.ubuntux.org?
[03:26] <Ng> webtoe: firstly you need the K&R book, then something like Anjuta to develop in. There are some developing gnome applications books too, so maybe the K&R C reference, a Teach Yourself C type book and a linuxy related C book?
[03:26] <Frederick> guys I got a P4 1.6 Ghz but only 64mb ram can I install ubuntu? how much swap do you recommend? thx in advance
[03:26] <can-o-worms> webtoe: or just learn perl
[03:26] <Ng> can-o-worms: that's really odd. There is a feature in new kernels to expose the running config in /proc/config.gz or something like that, but I don't think the vanilla kernel source is supposed to look for it
[03:27] <g0su> please one question, for change clock to UTF -> local?
[03:27] <webtoe> Ng: i've looked at perl and its fun to a point but it bugs me. And I have one or two C books (i.e. basic C programming) but looking for specific linux/gnome
[03:27] <Ng> can-o-worms: you could dig around in arch/i386/ and find a more default config
[03:27] <Subson1x> Frederick: it will run, but very slowly because of constant swapping. 512mb swap at least, better 1gb
[03:27] <Frederick> Subson1x, thx a lot
[03:28] <Ng> webtoe: I'd say that perl/python will get you to writing applications quicker, but I can understand wanting to learn C, it's a nice language :)
[03:28] <Subson1x> Frederick: does it run with the live-cd?
[03:29] <webtoe> Ng: the main reasons is a.) a lot of stuff under linux is still programmed in C/C++ and b.) doing a Msci computer science and think it would be useful
[03:29] <Subson1x> does someone want to blog his/her experiences made with ubuntu? /msg me
[03:29] <dbee> Hi, should you expect to encounter problems connecting dyndns to a computer behind a home router ??? or am I barking up the wrong tree here <woof><woof> ?
[03:30] <codomaniac> now what is libtoolize part of Ng ?
[03:30] <janne__> how it can be true that i see driver c: when im using wine?
[03:30] <janne__> i mean when im installing game....?
[03:30] <Subson1x> dbee: should be no problem
[03:31] <Zhukov> janne__, thet c drive ios the fake windows or fake c folder under .wine
[03:31] <janne__> and: How can i start programs in that drive c:?
[03:31] <Zhukov> gotcha?
[03:31] <Zhukov> :D
[03:31] <peterretief> cant get my mouse to work (serial port geflunkt)
[03:31] <can-o-worms> Subson1x: sure man.... here is my blog -> P.I.T.A
[03:31] <janne__> Where is that fake drive?
[03:31] <Ng> codomaniac: libtool1.4 I think
[03:31] <Subson1x> can-o-worms: url?
[03:32] <Zhukov> janne__, under your home folder, .wine
[03:32] <can-o-worms> Subson1x: that's it man... ubuntu is a pita
[03:32] <codomaniac> thanks Ng :)
[03:32] <Subson1x> can-o-worms: and why is that? sorry i don't understand :)
[03:33] <webtoe> codomaniac: you can use dpkg --search to look which package provides a file (i think)
[03:33] <webtoe> PITA = pain in the ass/arse
[03:33] <clem_yeats> nice :))
[03:34] <webtoe> right i got to go away for a couple of minutes, be back soon
[03:34] <Ng> codomaniac: take a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ you can search for the filenames to find out what package something is in :)
[03:35] <codomaniac> hmm thanks
[03:35] <dbee> Subson1x: I run the dyndns_update script and don't get any errors, the ipcheck.dat file seems fine - but when I point the browser to the url I get a www.myhostname.homeunix.com cannot be found. Is it a problem at their end ?? or mine ???
[03:36] <Subson1x> dbee: try ping www.myhostname.homeunix.com and compare to your current ip
[03:36] <zer0> ~/.wine/drive_c
[03:36] <Subson1x> then you know if it was updated correctly
[03:36] <zer0> i installed mirc there
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> ewwww...
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:36] <Subson1x> zer0: take KVIrc, runs native :)
[03:36] <zer0> mirc has great scripting
[03:37] <benson> Question: I quickly learn that even if you have write permissions to a NTFS drive, you cant write to it in linux (I did it out of habit) but I have my NTFS mounted with Read only now, so say i did the same thing again, i got the read only error, so its different than the messege I got last time, I just want to make sure I didn't just screw it up
[03:38] <janne__> thanks for all those helps....now i actually find those files....using command: cd ~/.wine/drive_c
[03:40] <Subson1x> benson: that should be alright, you can't write now because linux blocked it because of your r-o mount
[03:40] <benson> also, I came in here yesterday, cuz I could mount my NTFS drive, but i didnt have permissions,  I was just doing mount -r -t NTFS blah blah blah, and some guy gave me a line of sudo mount blah -o and then my name and like GUI-and stuff, anyone know that command so I can write it down for future reference
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> zer0,  that statement is one of some debate.
[03:41] <benson> all i did was i was listening to mp3z and tried to change the ID file and it said read only error, and I was like OH DUH, i just want to make sure its not likely a problem
[03:41] <benson> I dont think Ubuntu is exactly the easiest linux to start learning with :-)
[03:42] <benson> my cousin uses linux and I was asking him all these question and hes like dude with Mandrake i dont have to do any of that
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> benson,  the design goal is sort of to becomne a disrto that anyone could use with no learning. :P
[03:42] <dbee> Subson1x: I pinged the url but got no answer ... I double checked the account details at dyndns ... it's definitely a dynamic dns account set up at that URL. I don't really know what to do now ... I've updated the sh and the db
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> then gain - each disrto has its own strengths and weaknesses.
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> Ive had to do things with mandrake. that i dont ever have to touch in Ubuntu.
[03:43] <benson> believe me, i dont mind screwing up my hard drive and having to reboot because of some mistake I make, thats the best way to learn these things, point is, I have to know Linux, and multiple distros, so I might as well get started learning
[03:43] <medamaybe> does anyone know how I can set up (something in ubuntu) so I can use http://computername, instead of http://computer-ip  ?
[03:43] <Ng> benson: the wiki has information about mounting ntfs drives
[03:43] <benson> but does anyone know that command line I mentioned?  I know it was like Sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/blah r-o? GID-benson something like that
[03:44] <smykes> I'm trying to get Alexandria installed in my classroom, it just kind of sits there when I try to search for a book
[03:44] <jockel__> what does "backports" mean in detail ? are "backports" the plain debian packages ?
[03:44] <benson> yeah ive looked and followed it, but i didnt see that command I had to come here for help cuz it mounted I just had no permissions to view it
[03:44] <Ng> jockel__: backports are packages of programs that were released after the current ubuntu release
[03:44] <Ng> jockel__: so newer versions of things in hoary, mostly
[03:44] <jockel__> Ng, thanks
[03:45] <jockel__> sorry for ask this question at all as i just found it in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:45] <Ng> finding the wiki is always good :)
[03:45] <benson> anyone ever fooled with the 3D desktop?
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> medamaybe,  you could edit the hosts file - thats the simplest way.. unless the pcs are using dhcp.
[03:46] <medamaybe> they're not using dhcp,  where can I find the hosts file?
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> benson, ages ago i twiddled with it - it seemed to be more of a college-project then a usable tool at the time.
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> medamaybe,  in /etc :P with all the other config files
[03:46] <medamaybe> lol
[03:46] <medamaybe> sorry  :(
[03:46] <medamaybe> thanks
[03:47] <benson> yeah, it kinda just looks cool, but evenutally i think it would grow old
[03:47] <dbee> Hi, I'm trying to get dyndns to work with my ubuntu ... I've registered and ran the dyndns_update script with no errors, but when I try to ping my chosen URL, I get no reply ... anybody got any ideas ?
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> benson,  yea - it was neat eye candy. but really i dont see it adding much to real usability.
[03:48] <benson> but thats one thing I really think is cool about linux is the additional workspaces,
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> benson,  in this day and age - seems people rarely use the 'multi-desktop' features much less all this 3d stuff.
[03:48] <benson> i think its a good idea atleast
[03:48] <din> ummmm
[03:48] <din> i use my 8 desktops religously
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> the idea of multi-workspaces has been around for years.  :P
[03:49] <din> well no
[03:49] <Lefungus> hello
[03:49] <din> heh
[03:49] <Gadjet> i rarely use multidesktops... higher res is the solution i use :)
[03:49] <benson> you know, you got a huge file copying or something and dont want to see it on your screen or something, u know
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> I got the same feature under windows..
[03:49] <Zhukov> survivor, multiple desktop are heaven :D
[03:49] <Lefungus> I'm on breezy, new to apt-get, I'm trying to find the name of xorg headers package
[03:49] <benson> i dont know mine was on 1280 and it was just too small for me to see comforatably
[03:49] <Lefungus> anyone has a clue ?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Multi Monitor support - is finially getting decent at least!
[03:49] <benson> lefungus wouldnt it be listen in the package manager?
[03:49] <din> my desk is 2560x1024 and most days i have at least half my workspaces filled
[03:50] <survivor> Multi monitoring = heaven
[03:50] <benson> what size moniter you have, din
[03:50] <saiguran> have anyone used octave, python, gnuplot to plot geographical/climatic systems on a map using three variable e.g longitude, latitude and temperature/rainfall/wind/etc?
[03:50] <din> benson: dual head, 2 19" monitors
[03:50] <survivor> But I never thought multiple desktops were intuitive
[03:50] <Gadjet> ohh, multi monitoring is great
[03:50] <Gadjet> at work, we've got 3 lcd's
[03:50] <Gadjet> it sucks coming home to my lonely 1 CRT :(
[03:50] <benson> mines 17" i cant really see if mines 1280,
[03:50] <survivor> It's like, I click somewhere in the main panel to get to a specific desktop, then on the task bar to get to a window and then every app has it's own tabbing system
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> often - i find the window managers are too brain dead to make multi-monitors that usable.. but they have all gotten better. :P
[03:51] <survivor> way too deep of a hierarchy for me
[03:51] <din> Gadjet: i feel your pain
[03:51] <medamaybe> after I edit the hosts file, do I have to restart/reload anything?
[03:51] <din> except i only have 1 lcd at home
[03:51] <din> medamaybe: no
[03:51] <survivor> Dr: Yep, I needed a freeware tool to get two task bars even on Windows
[03:51] <medamaybe> hm..that's easy
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> survivor,  i spend hrs on ever new windows install - to get it into a usable system . :P
[03:52] <LokeDK> I'm using a clearlooks theme, but synaptic and the update manager has the "default" theme .. old fashion.. what's wrong?
[03:52] <survivor> How often do you do that? :D
[03:52] <survivor> I installed Win2K three years ago
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> survivor,  depends on how engertic the wife is with downloading crud-ware. :P
[03:52] <survivor> and didn't even bother to keep it clean
[03:52] <din> my wife uses linux
[03:52] <din> well she really has no choice in the matter
[03:53] <din> heh
[03:53] <deprave> my cat uses linux
[03:53] <din> <-- linux sys admin
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> my wife just HAS to get into the XXX yahoo rooms. :P I got no choice in the matter.
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:53] <Xappe> LokeDK: that's because you run them as root
[03:53] <spola> is that where you met?
[03:53] <Unified> hi
[03:53] <deprave> din: my cat just rolled his eyes.
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> nah - i got my wife off of. Russianbrides.com
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:53] <spola> rofl >:)
[03:54] <din> deprave: did he chase them too? :p
[03:54] <LokeDK> XandriX, It does that as standard doesn't it?
[03:54] <Unified> i've installed breezy colony 3, but when I boot for the first time after installation it gives me an oops with hw_random: RNG not detected and freezes. what can i do?
[03:54] <deprave> i hear india is outsourcing their linux outsourcing staffs to a farm of chimpanzees
[03:54] <Zhukov> DAMN!! MY CAT RIPPED MY MOUSE CORD!
[03:54] <Gadjet> anyone had any problems with upgrading the kernel to 2.6.12-6 (SMP) on hp lpr1000 (uses megaraid scsi) i'm currently running breezy dev ? (i just get the generic error of not being able to pivot_root, 'no such file or directory dev/console')
[03:54] <medamaybe> Dr_Willis,  what if the computers ARE using dhcp? is it possible to make http://computername  work then?
[03:55] <Lefungus> benson, well, I don't find it
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> medamaybe,  not sure then. run your own dns server perhaps..
[03:55] <Lefungus> trying to search with "xorg headers"
[03:55] <Zhukov> no wonder it wanst working
[03:55] <medamaybe> well, all the computers are connected to a server
[03:55] <medamaybe> win2k
[03:56] <medamaybe> and from all the windows PCs I can type:  http://computername  and it works, but in ubuntu it didn't work
[03:56] <din> medamaybe: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_a_Dynamic_DNS_with_an_Updating_Daemon
[03:56] <din> that may help you
[03:56] <Zhukov> buaaa im mouseless
[03:56] <benson> /dev/hda6 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro) [/]
[03:56] <benson>    Does that mean there are Errors?
[03:56] <medamaybe> thaanks din, I'll take a look
[03:56] <din> although it's gentoo, it has very useful info
[03:57] <Xappe> LokeDK: so maybe if you change the system wide theme setting they will show up looking as the rest of your desktop, but now i'm only guessing :)
[03:57] <LokeDK> Xappe, How do I do that?
[03:58] <Xappe> LokeDK: i'm not sure...have never bothered trying that myself
[03:58] <bytefoo> sup :|
[03:58] <bytefoo> is there a lean and mean guide around for ubuntu :|
[03:58] <LokeDK> oh okay
[03:59] <ajd> nooby question :P, I just have linux installed on my comp and i want to format it (not with installation after) and I was sure you lovely people could tell me how :P
[04:00] <spola> !ubuntuguide
[04:00] <ubotu> spola: Syntax error in line 1
[04:00] <din> lol
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> heh
[04:00] <bytefoo> nah, lean and mean guide
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> ajd,  what are you going to do with it afterwards? want a totally new/clean hard drive?
[04:01] <LokeDK> Something is wrong with xchat.. is crashes when i choose "Load Plugin or Script.." from menu..
[04:01] <spola> it gives a link to a better one (or should)
[04:01] <ajd> yeah
[04:01] <mjbunink> Well... not exactly
[04:01] <bytefoo> so i can get rid of all these useless services that are on by default
[04:01] <bytefoo> and making it pokey :o
[04:01] <Gadjet> fdisk is fun :)
[04:01] <bytefoo> !ubuntuguide
[04:01] <ubotu> bytefoo: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:01] <bytefoo> :/
[04:01] <din> !ubuntuguide
[04:01] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, din
[04:01] <spola> damn bot not being able to guess what we want even if it's soooo obvious
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> ajd,  use a live cd and the fdisk, or qt_parted or similer disk partining tools to delete all the partitions.
[04:02] <bytefoo> i gotta make it speedy :-/
[04:02] <bytefoo> like arch or vector :|
[04:02] <ajd> ok thanks :)
[04:02] <mjbunink> I'm having trouble playing mp3's (I know I'm not the only one), but installed all the codecs specified in ubuntuguide. Still no go (could not determine type of stream). Any thoughts on that one?
[04:02] <ajd> cya
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> mjbunink,  check the wikis yet? they tend to be more up-to-date
[04:03] <d2dchat> hey, im having problems with my wireless card
[04:03] <d2dchat> lspci shows that its there
[04:03] <CarlFK> where are some hints on how to setup vsFTP so that all local users can read/write to /home/ftp (other than 777)
[04:04] <d2dchat> and i had it working
[04:04] <janne__> hi all gain!
[04:04] <d2dchat> but it doesnt show up in iwconfig
[04:04] <mof> hi
[04:04] <CarlFK> d2dchat - dmesg|less - see if the driver is trying to load
[04:04] <d2dchat> how do i do that?
[04:04] <din> bahahaha my boss just came in and gave me a qmail beer cuzzi
[04:04] <CarlFK> d2dchat - or lsmod to see if the driver is loaded
[04:05] <d2dchat> then what?
[04:05] <mjbunink> Dr_Willis, Hmmm... not yet. good suggestion. will try. Btw. Ubuntu is (feels) way snappier than Mdk or FC!
[04:05] <janne__> 1 prob: how i can move folder with one blank spot between names: like this : Matrix Games ?
[04:05] <spola> ubotu wiki UbotuUsage
[04:05] <d2dchat> if it isnt, install the driver and if it is?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> mjbunink,  lol :P
[04:05] <CarlFK> d2dchat - then tell us what you find
[04:05] <d2dchat> k
[04:05] <d2dchat> brb
[04:05] <d2dchat> :)
[04:05] <Zhukov> janne__, go to the folder that contaisn taht folder
[04:05] <janne__> yes? and?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> janne__,  with bash you mean?
[04:06] <janne__> bash?
[04:06] <Zhukov> and do mv Matr(and it tab)   the console auto completes
[04:06] <slist> hello guys, im having problems with my graphics card, i buyed a better one than before (it was msi  6600 pci-e) and what i bought is asus 6600 pci-e GT... anyways i can't get it work in 3d mode, i tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg and install nvidia drivers again, but it won't work, is there something i should do to get rid of those old drivers or something, it seems that my system is locked up or something
[04:06] <mof> janne__, '...'
[04:06] <Subson1x> re
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> the shell :P
[04:06] <janne__> i try
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> mv 'foo bar' 'foobar'
[04:06] <Zhukov> lol
[04:07] <CarlFK> janne__ - how are you currently trying to move it?
[04:07] <CarlFK> janne__ (this will help figure out what flavor of anwer to give)
[04:10] <janne__> Thanks very much for helping me....now i can play Steel Panthers....
[04:11] <janne__> i learn a lot today...
[04:11] <www-ubuntux-org> :)
[04:11] <mof> learning by playing ??
[04:11] <janne__> Ubuntu rules!
[04:11] <janne__> Bye!
[04:11] <youngcoder> does anyone know anything concerning a driver compatibility with Lexmark P6250 printer?
[04:12] <mof> youngcoder, try turboprint if in doubt
[04:12] <youngcoder> got a link?
[04:13] <mof> search it by yourself
[04:13] <mof> at google
[04:14] <sproingie> turboprint is canon, epson, and hp only, no?
[04:14] <youngcoder> i did
[04:14] <mof> http://freshmeat.net/projects/turboprint/
[04:14] <youngcoder> i was wondering if someone had compiled something
[04:14] <sproingie> hell their drivers on windows barely work
[04:15] <filip_> i have now run ubuntu for 2 weeks and now wonder how can ubuntu be that good? i meen i can have and internte browser, musicplayer, gaim valknut xchat synaptic and an game nnd my computer is running whitout problem. In Win2k i cant have an webbbrowser, winamp, MSN running whitout problem.
[04:15] <CarlFK> "search it by yourself" = "yes" + "arch it by ourself" ;)
[04:15] <sproingie> filip_: welcome to linux
[04:15] <survivor> You have a poor Win2K then, though.
[04:16] <JzE> Hey.... Is there boot floppies for Ubuntu?
[04:16] <sproingie> tho i must say that browser+winamp+msn isn't exactly high load
[04:16] <mof> sproingie, sorry, you'r right
[04:16] <CarlFK> JzE - kinda... SBM
[04:16] <filip_> thanx, how long does i need to wait for my cd from shipit ? I live in Sweden
[04:16] <slist> hmm, now i got glxgears work, but it can make only 600fps, it should do over 4000, any tips?
[04:16] <CarlFK> JzE - you have a CD but it won't boot, right?
[04:16] <JzE> CarlFK: Umm... What's that? I need floppies because my old comp won't boot cd's
[04:17] <mof> maybe lexmark offers drivers
[04:17] <JzE> CarlFK: Yep
[04:17] <d2dchat> i did lsmod and it gave me a bunch of things but i didnt see anything about wireless
[04:17] <www-ubuntux-org> filip_: a few weeks i think
[04:17] <spola> i saw this thing in my bash_profile about adding ~/bin to the PATH if it exists, but it's not added ... what could cause this?
[04:17] <d2dchat> or at least i dont think i did
[04:17] <filip_> ok
[04:17] <CarlFK> JzE - look on the ubuntu wiki (i forgot the url.. duh) for SBM (smart boot manager) it is a floppy that will boot a CD
[04:18] <JzE> CarlFK: ok.. thanks :)
[04:18] <lexmark> does anyone know if there are yahoo messenger clients that works with ubuntu?
[04:18] <Zhukov> lexmark, gaim
[04:18] <slist> gaim?
[04:18] <slist> bitlbee also
[04:18] <CarlFK> JzE - if you find it, post the link here.. I have something to add to it
[04:19] <slist> it's a messenger "software" for irc-clients
[04:19] <zer0> slist what does it say when you type  glxinfo | grep renderer
[04:19] <JzE> CarlFK: ok
[04:19] <slist> zer0: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[04:19] <zer0> oh you have no hardware acceleration
[04:19] <zer0> what graphisc card ?
[04:19] <lexmark> gaim? is that available in package manager?
[04:20] <slist> asus 6600 gt pci-e
[04:20] <www-ubuntux-org> lexmark: for sure
[04:20] <JzE> CarlFK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto?highlight=%28boot%29%7C%28smart%29%7C%28manager%29
[04:20] <survivor> It's included in ubuntu's standard installation
[04:20] <slist> lexmark: it's installed by default
[04:20] <spola> lexmark, should be installed by default (so yes)
[04:20] <JzE> CarlFK: Is it that?
[04:20] <noodle> is there a way to "alternate" the default os from windows to ubuntu automatically between reboots?
[04:21] <Zhukov> noodle, no
[04:21] <CarlFK> JzE - yup
[04:21] <osfameron> heh, that's a cute idea though :-)
[04:21] <lexmark> thanx
[04:21] <noodle> doh
[04:21] <slist> zer0: i said my problem earlier, i can't get this new card drivers work i did have msi 6600 non-gt version, and i bought 6600 gt, now it won't work in 3d mode, do you have any advice in this?
[04:21] <spola> it's prolly doable to specify what should boot next from within ubuntu, but not from windows
[04:22] <CarlFK> JzE - when you boot from sbm floppy, you may think you need to install it to the HD - you can, but you dont need to.  somewhere is a "boot from CD" option
[04:22] <mof> slist, install nvidia driver
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. wonder if the google messenger thing will get a linux port also.
[04:22] <bytefoo> did skype get a port?
[04:22] <pybe> noodle, i have seen somthing you can do in grub for this i thought. Have you googled?
[04:22] <JzE> CarlFK: Ok.. I try it
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> actually its all open spec. isent it?
[04:22] <deprave> it does, it's called gaim
[04:22] <noodle> pybe: well no wasn't sure what to google for
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> gaim works with the new google chat?
[04:22] <slist> mof: i have done that many times, won't help
[04:22] <zer0> slist is there a linux driver on asus' website ?
[04:22] <bytefoo> Dr_Willis, it is just jabber
[04:22] <deprave> yes it does, just set it as a jabber protocol
[04:23] <spola> Dr_Willis, i think so (i heard it used yapster)
[04:23] <spola> or yabber, LOL
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> bytefoo,  cool. :P heh - ive not any 'friends' to talk to. so it just shows my gmail info.
[04:23] <pybe> noodle, you want it to keep booting windows if thats what was manually chosen for example?
[04:23] <bytefoo> ye
[04:23] <mof> slist, did you edit your xorg.conf ?
[04:24] <noodle> pybe: if i'm in linux and i reboot, i want grub to default to windows on the next boot, and vice versa if i'm on windows :)
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> google is getting some very handy tools out.  Picisa2 - saved my wife a lot of time.
[04:24] <deprave> what's picasa?
[04:24] <slist> mof: yes
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> grub has a feature where it can rember what you last selected.
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> deprave,  google's image browser/thumbnail/database program.
[04:24] <www-ubuntux-org> k3wl
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> deprave,  no linux port yet however. :( that i know of.
[04:24] <deprave> for unix?
[04:24] <deprave> oh
[04:25] <www-ubuntux-org> that's bad
[04:25] <slist> zer0: i can only find windows driver
[04:25] <mof> with comment the lines with 'GLcore' and 'dri'
[04:25] <noodle> Dr_Willis: can it set it to boot the last !selected?
[04:25] <Zhukov> Dr_Willis, but i think what is want is something like, now windows, now linux, now windows, now linux
[04:25] <noodle> yep that's what i want
[04:25] <noodle> :)
[04:25] <Zhukov> :)
[04:26] <bytefoo> i wonder if gensplash is available
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> it rembers the last item you booted to noodle .   any other way would be odd. ;p what if you had 100 entries.. :P you may be able to MAke your grub menus change the default for the next boot. not sure how..
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> I find that it alwyas defaults to the WRONG os whatever i do.
[04:26] <noodle> back to google i guess :|
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> i just set the timeout to be somthing real long. like 60 sec.. so i can be sure to catch it and tell it what to boot to
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> i find it hard to belive that you KNOW you want to go from Linux/windows/linux/windows regullary. :P
[04:27] <noodle> my entire motivation for doing this is because i want to go to the fridge between reboots without waiting to select the os > <
[04:28] <sproingie> well one usually reboots linux when they want to go to windows
[04:28] <sproingie> and when one reboots windows, they're disgusted enough with it to do linux for a while
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> actually i think theres a way you can shutdown linux, and tell it what os to reboot to.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> seen that in some disrtos.. Not sure how they did it however.
[04:28] <humppa_cz> hi. i've got problems with binutils (same as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37516), but apt-get update; apt-get upgrade doesn't help me.. :( which version of binutils is in repository just now?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> must of been some tweaking of the grub.conf right befor it reboots.
[04:28] <sproingie> Dr_Willis: it's not hard to set the next boot from linux
[04:28] <dental> ciao
[04:29] <humppa_cz> ..i've got binutils 2.15-5ubuntu2.2
[04:29] <sproingie> Dr_Willis: good luck doing it from windows.  i don't know if grub even reads fat
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> then again - on my current machine - i got 2 hard drives. I hit F11 for the bios boot menu to pick my hd to boot. :P
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> so none of this is even testable by me right now.
[04:30] <sproingie> Dr_Willis: you could put /boot on a fat partition, or do something with colinux on windows.  either hack seems a little bit of a steep price
[04:30] <slist> Dr_Willis: i'd like to have that function in my old machine, which runs smootwall right now
[04:30] <sproingie> probably easier to just hack grub
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> heh - have a mini disrto just to handle the boot loader. :P
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> been there done that!
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> GrubLinux :P no that wasent the name...
[04:31] <www-ubuntux-org> what is the best RSS news feed aggregator for gnome?
[04:31] <CarlFK> there is a free ext2 fs driver for win
[04:31] <www-ubuntux-org> it should be capable of RSS and Atom
[04:31] <mjbunink> Dr_Willis, thanx for the advice. With some comman thinking I could have thought of the wiki's myself, but no, I had to grep in /etc and plough through libs. It actually works now! Thanks for pointing me in the right drection instead of flaming. I think i'm going to enjoy this distro.
[04:31] <slist> smoothwall is awesome but i'd like to install few more stuff in it, like ftp server
[04:31] <spola> www: i drag the rss links to my firefox bookmarks so they expand into the newsstories they contain, works great
[04:32] <www-ubuntux-org> spola: hmm i like firefox, but the rss thing isn't perfect in there :(
[04:33] <www-ubuntux-org> it should regularly visit these blogs and inform me about news
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> mjbunink,  glad i could help... i just cant rember what i helped you do....... :)
[04:33] <CarlFK> http://www.fs-driver.org  "s Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access)."
[04:33] <Lefungus> where is the same thing for reiserfs ?
[04:34] <CarlFK> Lefungus - in the future ;)
[04:34] <www-ubuntux-org> i don't think it exists
[04:34] <www-ubuntux-org> btw. reiserFS or ext3? what to prefer?
[04:34] <Lefungus> anyway, it's cool
[04:34] <CarlFK> indeed
[04:34] <Lefungus> it means vfat can die peacefully at last
[04:34] <bytefoo> i think it depends :-/
[04:34] <CarlFK> www-ubuntux-org - whatever is the default ;)
[04:34] <slist> can you tell me more about reiserFS?
[04:35] <pybe> noodle, i dont have ubuntu here at the mo, is there an app called rebootin installed or in apt-cache search
[04:35] <bytefoo> like reiser is really fast as i understand it, but not so good for laptops since it accesses the ahrddrive way too much :X
[04:35] <www-ubuntux-org> CarlFK: i think there are more tools supportings ext3 than reiserFS
[04:35] <noodle> pybe checking
[04:35] <bytefoo> because always updating the inodes
[04:35] <noodle> no :(
[04:36] <www-ubuntux-org> bytefoo: good to know
[04:36] <bytefoo> i *think*
[04:36] <bytefoo> don't quote me :-X
[04:36] <www-ubuntux-org> ext3 is default in ubuntu, i guesS?
[04:36] <bytefoo> i use ext3 :-/
[04:36] <derek_> Hi there i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to enable DMA from boot on my dvdrom drive
[04:36] <pybe> noodle: search for it it allows you to specify an os to reboot into 1 time only from linux
[04:36] <_frank_> derek: edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[04:37] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com for whoever wanted to search the repos
[04:37] <noodle> ok
[04:37] <pybe> noodle:  or there is this that might do it for you: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=756404
[04:37] <humppa_cz_> hi. i've got problems with binutils (same as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37516), but apt-get update; apt-get upgrade doesn't help me.. :( which version of binutils is in repository just now?
[04:37] <hando> hi there
[04:38] <filip_> what is the easiest way to setup an ftp server in ubuntu?
[04:38] <daSein> can anyone help
[04:38] <Subson1x> http://www.ubuntux.org/poll :)
[04:38] <mjbunink> Dr_Willis, mp3 codecs, am enjoying muine in full effect at the very moment
[04:38] <saintFrance> how do i make my desktop all pretty and stuff? like ive seen some crazy desktops
[04:38] <derek_> ok got that file open
[04:39] <pybe> filip_ apt-get install vsftpd then nano /etc/vsftpd.conf then /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart all don
[04:39] <slist> filip_: with aptitude install proftp
[04:39] <galathalion> help me please..
[04:39] <yuckyz> hi
[04:39] <CarlFK> filip_ - apt-get install vsftpd
[04:39] <galathalion> :<
[04:39] <daSein> has ubuntu linux installation menus like mandriva or suse? or is it as all previous debians?
[04:39] <slist> filip_: or im not sure is it the easiest, but least it it's not the hardest
[04:39] <Seveas> daSein, like debians, but less questions
[04:40] <slist> is there a support for anonymous accounts in vsftpd?
[04:40] <Subson1x> not graphical yet
[04:40] <mjr> daSein, I'm not sure what you mean by installation menus; Ubuntu install uses debian-installer, but much streamlined
[04:40] <yuckyz> i read the support and my 3com nic isnt supported by ubuntu, can the driver used in fedora or whitebox of that 3com nic work in ubuntu too?
[04:40] <daSein> i mean does it auto install grafical desktops or have you got to 'di it yourself'
[04:40] <Subson1x> but installation is very fast and works, that's the main point
[04:40] <daSein> do it
[04:40] <mof> saintFrance, http://www.directupload.net/show/d/428/9ZJOT8rv.jpg like this
[04:40] <mjr> daSein, Gnome is automatically installed
[04:40] <Seveas> daSein, by default it installs a desktop
[04:40] <daSein> excellent
[04:40] <filip_> pybe: should i restard my computer?
[04:40] <mjr> (or KDE, if installing from a Kubuntu CD)
[04:40] <daSein> i tried to install woody
[04:40] <Seveas> either gnome or kde, depending on whether you have an ubuntu cd or kubuntu
[04:41] <slist> filip_: leave that for windows users
[04:41] <pybe> filip_ no
[04:41] <daSein> and cound not manage to install X
[04:41] <daSein> could
[04:41] <filip_> slist: ha!
[04:41] <CarlFK> pybe - know of any example vsftp configs?
[04:41] <yuckyz> my first time to see linux that my lancard or nic cant be detected by ubuntu but can be detected by fedora or whitebox or openbsd. any help pls?
[04:41] <daSein> thanks people
[04:41] <Nermal> is there an easy way to get a service started at boot ? something like insserv in suse or rc-update in gentoo ?
[04:42] <derek_> frank ive got that file open what do i need to edit, sorry only been using linux for a week
[04:42] <daSein> i hope next time we'll talk i had already installed this distro!
[04:42] <bytefoo> goooooo breezy!
[04:42] <Subson1x> kubuntu doesn't make sense imho, because you can install KDE with ubuntu as well
[04:42] <daSein> i saw gnome desktop
[04:42] <daSein> on a friends laptop
[04:42] <mof> Nermal, update-rc.d name defaults
[04:42] <CarlFK> subterrific - you can, but with ku you don't need to ;)
[04:42] <Nermal> mof, cheers
[04:42] <daSein> beautiful
[04:42] <juri> hey, decided to give the official kernel a go for the first time, and ran into some problems i'm having trouble solving as i'm not familiar with initrd, lvm or even udev very much
[04:43] <yuckyz> what i love of ubuntu is tht it can run gaim-vv without any problem making me use webcam of yahoo messenger hehhehehe
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Seveas: ok I seem to have gnupg signing mail, and I exported public key to two servers - is that all I need to do to sign email?
[04:43] <juri> it tells me, while trying to boot, that /dev/cdrom: open failed: No medium find, Unable to find volume group 306 and 306 does not exist
[04:43] <filip_> pybe: what should i restart?
[04:43] <Seveas> thoreauputic, yup
[04:43] <juri> i found some hits with google, but nothing very helpful
[04:43] <spola> yuckyz, you have a webcam that works with ubuntu? what's it called?
[04:43] <jbailey> juri: This is breezy, riht?
[04:43] <juri> yes
[04:43] <jbailey> juri: Which CD did you install from?
[04:43] <juri> just apt-get dist-upgraded
[04:43] <slist> Subson1x: what if you don't want to download kde or you can't download it because your installing it to machine which has slow internet connection for an example
[04:43] <jbailey> juri: When was this?
[04:44] <yuckyz> spola yes use gaim-vv
[04:44] <juri> i don't think i've reinstalled this box since debian 0.93 or something like that :-)
[04:44] <CarlFK> filip_ - no.  the only time you need to restart is when you upgrade the kernel
[04:44] <juri> jbailey, er, yesterday or the day before
[04:44] <filip_> carlFK: okej
[04:44] <jbailey> juri: That problem ought to have been fixed as of yesterday afternoon. =)
[04:44] <marco__> hi to all ! I have some question about ppc ubuntu
[04:44] <juri> oh, great
[04:44] <yuckyz> creative webcam can work with gaim-vv
[04:44] <spola> yuckyz, lol, i was referring to the hardware :p i'm dead afraid im gonna buy a webcam and it's not gunna work
[04:44] <juri> will have to try it the next time i reboot
[04:44] <spola> oh, thx
[04:44] <Subson1x> go and vote for ubuntu :) http://www.ubuntux.org/poll
[04:44] <twibbler> on gstreamer getiing this error Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture' can anybody help please ..
[04:44] <juri> thanks :-)
[04:44] <jbailey> juri: The trick now is to upgrade your initramfs-tools to 0.23, and then regenerated the initramfs.
[04:44] <noodle> pybe: grub-reboot will do it i think, :)
[04:45] <Timmu_> Hello
[04:45] <pybe> CarlFK:  the one in /etc/ is a basic sample just need to tweak a bit for you.
[04:45] <somedude_> ive got a folder namne: "-=Cartoons=-" and i cant rename it or move it???
[04:45] <jbailey> juri: You can either do that through apt-get --reinstall the kernel, or just mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-7-686 2.6.10-7-686  (Substituting the appropriate version for your setup)
[04:45] <Timmu_> Anyone using Avaks Roadrunner 10 Pci network card in ubuntu
[04:45] <yuckyz> and i find it so difficult to install  gaim-vv in whitebos or fedora :((
[04:45] <juri> ok, thank you!
[04:45] <somedude_> i get this error:  mv -\=Cartoons\=- Cartoons
[04:45] <somedude_> mv: invalid option -- =
[04:45] <somedude_> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[04:45] <pybe> filip_:  you will need to restart the service if you edit the config file so it picks up the new sttings
[04:46] <monkey89> somedude_, try mv -- "-=Cartoons-=" Cartoons
[04:46] <monkey89> or whatever it is
[04:46] <mof>  mv -r '-\=Cartoons\=-' Cartoons
[04:46] <CarlFK> pybe - I am tying to setup anonymous: read from pub/, write to incoming, and the local shell users have full read/write to both
[04:46] <jbailey> juri: No prob.  Please ping me if you have further problems.
[04:46] <pybe> filip_:  thats the command #: /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[04:46] <pybe> CarlFK:  one sec
[04:46] <somedude_> mv: invalid option -- r
[04:46] <filip_> pybe: it works, how can i edit so they download from another directory, not /home/ftp
[04:47] <mof> -R
[04:47] <CarlFK> mof what is the -R for?
[04:47] <somedude_> mof still the same
[04:47] <monkey89> somedude_, so try what I said. it works.
[04:47] <CarlFK> if the dir starts with a - you need mv --  "-=Cartoons-=" Cartoons
[04:47] <mof> somedude_, only one '-'
[04:47] <Timmu_> Someone who use Roadrunner 10 pci network card pm me /msg Timmu_
[04:48] <monkey89> no, two
[04:48] <CarlFK> do i hear 3?
[04:48] <monkey89> hehe
[04:48] <CarlFK> I say you need 3....
[04:48] <somedude_> yaaay monkey89, u rule! :)
[04:48] <monkey89> :)
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Seveas: pastebin info in /msg
[04:48] <somedude_> any chance in u explaining what i just did? ;)
[04:48] <CarlFK> 2 for the -- and one for the -
[04:48] <monkey89> for reference, the -- (at least as far as I know) shuts off the command line
[04:48] <pybe> filip_ man vsftpd.conf
[04:49] <monkey89> otherwise, mv considered the - to be a command line option and bonked out
[04:49] <CarlFK> I think -- is a bash thing?
[04:49] <pybe> CarlFK: you just need to allow anonymous and also chroot
[04:49] <monkey89> might be... i dont know
[04:49] <somedude_> ok, thanks monkey89!! and mof, thanks for trying! :)
[04:49] <somedude_> (no pun intended!)
[04:50] <galathalion> could anyone help me?
[04:50] <monkey89> (there's a pun there?)
[04:50] <damsko> what i have to do to play .wma files in bmp
[04:50] <Gadjet> doesn't \- work too?
[04:50] <Gadjet> or ./-filename
[04:50] <monkey89> i think ./ might
[04:51] <marco__> some body have ubuntu on ibook g3 500 mhz ?
[04:51] <Seveas> CarlFK, -- is a gnu getopt thing
[04:51] <Timmu_> where i can find Drivers For newest ubuntu ? some website or something
[04:51] <Seveas> means that any arguments after that are not command line option
[04:51] <Seveas> s
[04:51] <CarlFK> Seveas - explains why man mv didn't mention it.  thanks.
[04:51] <Subson1x> Timmu_: see http://www.ubuntux.org/forum/1
[04:52] <Seveas> Subson1x, stop spamming your site
[04:52] <Timmu_> i hate this win xp... so slow
[04:52] <Thunder000> Where can I find the breezy kernel ?
[04:52] <Seveas> Thunder000, /boot/vmlinuz-*
[04:52] <somedude_> monkey89, well.. mof didnt solve it and well.. hmm.. nevermind! :)
[04:52] <filip_> pybe: where can i find an log of the server
[04:52] <filip_> ?
[04:52] <monkey89> not much of a play on words is all I'm saying :)
[04:53] <mof> somedude, without -r
[04:53] <Thunder000> Seveas: I mean I want to get the breezy kernel package... either via apt-get or website downlad
[04:53] <damsko> what i have to do to play .wma files in bmp?
[04:53] <mof>  mv '-\=Cartoons\=-' Cartoons
[04:53] <somedude_> too late mof :(
[04:54] <monkey89> mv '-=Cartoons=-' Cartoons
[04:54] <monkey89> mv: invalid option -- =
[04:54] <monkey89> :)
[04:54] <galathalion> im a girl help me.. :S
[04:54] <monkey89> brb
[04:54] <mof> monkey89, '...'
[04:54] <Seveas> Thunder000, running a breezy kernel on hoary is a very bad idea...
[04:55] <somedude_> heres one for u mof: "find . -type f ! -iname *.jpg" <-- this works but i want to ad more options to it *.jpeg for example do i have to pipe it?
[04:55] <Seveas> galathalion, we can't help you with the fact you're a girl...
[04:55] <_frank_> galathalion: ask your question, if someone can help, they will
[04:55] <galathalion> i new that would help
[04:55] <yuckyz> where can i download a driver for my 3com nic?
[04:56] <Thunder000> Seveas: I did an upgrade to breezy.. and i need the newer kernel
[04:56] <Seveas> yuckyz, 3com cards should work out of the bocs...
[04:56] <Seveas> Thunder000, in that case you can simply install linux-686 (intel cpu) linux-k7 (amd) or linux-ppc (mac)
[04:56] <galathalion> im trying to watch a dvd on my laptop.. ut it doesnt go any well.. its bumpy
[04:56] <_frank_> !dma
[04:56] <galathalion> anyone know what to do?
[04:56] <Seveas> galathalion, enable dma on your dvd player
[04:56] <Seveas> !tell galathalion about dma
[04:56] <mof> somedude_, write a script
[04:56] <galathalion> Seveas: how do you do that?
[04:57] <iap> hallo
[04:57] <Seveas> galathalion, ubotu just sent you some info
[04:57] <Thunder000> Seveas: linux-686 is the name of the kernel package ?
[04:57] <iap> for one time, i have a big problem. My ubuntu just hangs after gdm login
[04:57] <yuckyz> Seveas no it didnt i even tried using live cd and still the same, only in ubuntu that that nic wasnt detected
[04:57] <iap> I suspect some dns problem
[04:57] <somedude_> mof, haha.. ok.. i thought i could add multiple queries..but thanks! :)
[04:57] <Seveas> Thunder000, yes
[04:57] <iap> I mean some localhost issue and so on.
[04:57] <Seveas> yuckyz, very odd, does ifconfig list it
[04:58] <iap> have you any ideas? that network-admin really pissed me off.
[04:58] <n1xt3r> quit
[04:58] <Timmu_> ftp://ftp.a-link.com/old/rr10/ << i found roadrunner 10 drivers but they are 4 redhat 7.1 :/ so old kernel..
[04:58] <yuckyz> nope only loopback or lo Seveas
[04:58] <pybe> iap: whats in your /etc/hosts file
[04:58] <Ng> yuckyz: what about "ifconfig -a"
[04:58] <galathalion> Seveas: cant u just tell me how to do it? im in a middle of a friggin family movie-night
[04:58] <iap> pybe: I'll se, a moment
[04:58] <Seveas> galathalion, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[04:58] <yuckyz> and i even checked the device management the nic wasnt there nor in the dmesg command
[04:59] <Timmu_> i go in ubuntu now.. i try get that working :/
[04:59] <Seveas> galathalion, but that only lasts until you reboot -- read what ubotu sent you if you want to make it permanent
[04:59] <galathalion> Seveas: thats it?
[04:59] <Thunder000> Seveas: which kernel version is this ? linux-686 ?
[04:59] <yuckyz> i havent tried ifconfig -a but only ifconfig and i assume it should be able to display the nic if recognized
[04:59] <iap> pybe: coming back from that pc, after 4 minuts it logged in.
[04:59] <Seveas> galathalion, yes
[04:59] <galathalion> Seveas: ok.. thank you. ill see if it works. :D
[04:59] <Seveas> Thunder000, on breezy it's 2.6.12-something
[04:59] <iapx8088> pybe
[04:59] <pybe> h
[05:00] <iapx8088> do you want a cat, o prefer from network-admin
[05:00] <pybe> whats the localhost line
[05:00] <galathalion> Seveas: i love you
[05:00] <Thunder000> Seveas: is there a command or something that shows me the version of the kernel of linux-686 ?
[05:00] <Seveas> Thunder000, apt-cache depends linux-686
[05:00] <iapx8088> pybe:cat /etc/hosts
[05:00] <iapx8088> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost deviantmind
[05:01] <Seveas> the linux-686 package always depends on the most recent kernel package
[05:01] <pybe> iapx8088: thats ok
[05:01] <_frank_> Thunder000: uname -a
[05:01] <Thunder000> I see
[05:01] <Seveas> that's why it's a good thing to have it installed
[05:01] <monkey89> somedude_, find -name *.jpg -o -name *.jpeg
[05:01] <Ng> Thunder000: packages.ubuntu.com will let you explore the current repositories
[05:01] <lexmark> is the best way to uninstall gaim is through the synaptic package manager?
[05:01] <pybe> iapx8088: whats in /etc/resolv.conf
[05:01] <iapx8088> pybe: this habit started a) when I did the update last night b)I had to quarrel with network-admin.
[05:01] <Seveas> lexmark, yes
[05:02] <somedude_> aaaaaah.. yes.. thanks! !:)
[05:02] <Seveas> monkey89, -name *.jp*g :)
[05:02] <Thunder000> ok
[05:02] <pybe> iapx8088: what was updated lastnight
[05:02] <yuckyz> Seveas will the driver used in other linux distro work in ubuntu?
[05:02] <iapx8088> pybe, I'll show you, but I'm wondering if networking-admin is changing those under my *ss. Libpcre was updated.
[05:02] <monkey89> hehe, that works too, but you would get .jpBLAHBLAHg as well... not that that ever happens
[05:02] <Seveas> yuckyz, you might need to simply modprobe it
[05:02] <frogtone25> hello
[05:03] <frogtone25> i have a problem
[05:03] <iapx8088> pybe, a pastebin is one the way
[05:03] <derek_> excellent thanks frank thats sorted
[05:03] <Ng> frogtone25: ask your question :)
[05:03] <frogtone25> does anybody know why the hoary extras server is down
[05:03] <iapx8088> pybe, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1636
[05:03] <frogtone25> im trying to download java
[05:03] <yuckyz> Seveas havent used modprobe and forgot what tht would do, by the way what is the command to detect the devices in fedora it is kudzu i guess, what about in ubuntu?
[05:03] <lexmark> I tried that, I get this msg "the chosen action will affect other packages- the following has to be removed.  Ubuntu-desktop"
[05:03] <dwixs> gdsgfsdfgsdg
[05:03] <frogtone25> and it wont let me download it
[05:04] <Seveas> yuckyz, modprobe loads the driver
[05:04] <monkey89> ack... mailnotification can't do gmail
[05:04] <yuckyz> ic
[05:04] <Seveas> can you put the output of lspci on the pastebin please
[05:04] <Ng> frogtone25: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ has a java package, no idea what it's like though
[05:04] <yuckyz> do you think when booting the modprobe is being ran?
[05:04] <Ng> frogtone25: I used the java-package instructions in the wiki
[05:04] <monkey89> ooh, there it goes
[05:05] <yuckyz> Seveas sorry that box isnt in here. ill paste it tomorrow
[05:05] <Seveas> Ng, it's a java-package package
[05:05] <Ng> Seveas: fair enough, it's just impossible to tell atm because world+dog are offering java packages :/
[05:05] <decaf> frogtone25: you can download original binary (.bin) from Sun and build your package with make-jpg (from java-package)
[05:05] <frogtone25> how do you do that
[05:05] <frogtone25> make-jpg
[05:05] <Thunder000> which kernel is most fit for Intel Pentium M 740 Processor (Centrino)? linux-386 or linux-686 ?
[05:06] <Ng> frogtone25: the java page in the ubuntu.com wiki explains it
[05:06] <lexmark> I get this msg when I try to remove gaim "the chosen action will affect other packages- the following has to be removed.  Ubuntu-desktop"
[05:06] <lexmark> can anyone help?
[05:06] <dwixs> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:06] <iapx8088> Thunder000, I believe linux-386
[05:06] <Ng> lexmark: gaim is part of the ubuntu desktop
[05:06] <Burgundavia> lexmark, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package
[05:06] <iapx8088> ops
[05:06] <iapx8088> Thunder000, the contrary
[05:06] <thoreauputic> blech.. lunchpad is excruciatingly slow...
[05:06] <spola> lexmark, it doesn't matter
[05:06] <Burgundavia> lexmark, you can remove ti safely, but it makes upgrades a nightmare
[05:06] <thoreauputic> *launchpad
[05:06] <damsko> what i have to do to play .wma files in bmp?
[05:07] <Thunder000> iapx8088: you mean linux-686 ?
[05:07] <decaf> frogtone25: fakeroot make-jpkg sunjava.bin
[05:07] <iapx8088> Thunder000, yes
[05:07] <frogtone25> java isnt on the saveas page
[05:07] <Seveas> it is
[05:07] <Ng> frogtone25: scroll down to "sun-j2re"
[05:07] <Thunder000> ok. thanks
[05:07] <iapx8088> Thunder000, I'm using right now -386 with no probs.
[05:07] <Seveas> frogtone25, sun-jre-something
[05:07] <spola> damsko, i figure you'd have to install w32codecs, or (much much better) find a way to convert wma to ogg
[05:07] <Seveas> frogtone25, I sent you a username/password for it in private message
[05:08] <lexmark> ok, I just downloaded the Gaim autopackage 1.5.0 from the Gaim website... thats why I am trying to uninstall the older Gaim that I have
[05:08] <Thunder000> iapx8088: what is your system ?
[05:08] <iapx8088> Thunder000, a centrino dothan 1.7
[05:09] <lexmark> I have to uninstall the older Gaim before I can install the newer one from the gaim website right?
[05:09] <Ng> probably
[05:09] <phen> lex right
[05:09] <maverick> folk, clicking the gnome help icon gives me this error - "cannot launch icon, failed to execute child process "help" (no such directory or file) "
[05:09] <chris^> Hi Guys
[05:09] <maverick> pls help
[05:09] <Seveas> autopackage packages are evil...
[05:09] <Ng> lexmark: unless you really have/want to, I'd leave it alone though ;)
[05:09] <phen> but this one works
[05:09] <phen> :)
[05:09] <damsko> spola, ok thanks
[05:10] <lexmark> you mean the autopackage works phen?
[05:10] <chris^> On my Test-PC is running Breezy.. but here is something Broken -> http://pastebin.com/346920 -> Anyone know how 2 fix this? i found nothing with google or on ubuntuforums.org.. i know its developeing, but i want, that my test-pc is running :P
[05:11] <phen> yes
[05:11] <Juhaz> Thunder000, iapx8088, both should work okay, but centrino is i686, so it may be bit faster
[05:11] <lexmark> cool
[05:11] <lexmark> thanx
[05:12] <frogtone25> hey seveas does it matter if i download stand java or the the sdk package
[05:12] <Seveas> frogtone25, if you want to compile you need the sdk, otherwise just the jre
[05:12] <frogtone25> ok
[05:13] <Thunder000> Juhaz: thanks
[05:13] <frogtone25> Seveas:  thanks
[05:14] <slist> any idea why gaim send files so slow?
[05:14] <CarlFK> dern it... what is the command to add a user to a group?
[05:14] <Ng> CarlFK: sudo adduser username groupname
[05:14] <CarlFK> I have fogotten this 3 times in the last 6 mopnths
[05:14] <Seveas> slist, because the files are sent via the microsoft server...
[05:14] <Seveas> CarlFK, adduser user group
[05:14] <CarlFK> Ng - right.  I knew it was "odd"
[05:14] <CarlFK> thanks Ng and Seveas
[05:15] <Thunder000> Breezy installer didn't find my DVDRW ... So i installed Debian Sarge netinstall minimal .. and then upgraded to Breezy .. now upgrading the kernel... hope everthing goes fine
[05:15] <slist> Seveas: so it always sends something like 5kB/s?
[05:15] <Seveas> if you're lucky :)
[05:16] <Thunder000> I'm just giving it a try
[05:16] <Thunder000> so far so good
[05:16] <PDani> hi
[05:16] <slist> Seveas: can you recommend some way to send my files to friends, im behind a router in this machine so it's kind of hard
[05:17] <Seveas> slist, e-mail :)
[05:17] <frogtone25> thank you Seveas
[05:17] <PDani> when will be the gaim >=1.4 in hoary?
[05:17] <frogtone25> i have java
[05:17] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  current breezy doesn't work with nvidia?  I have work in 10 minutes so I must leave now, heh.
[05:17] <frogtone25> thank you so much
[05:17] <monkey89> PDani, probably not.  hoary's released, so its security fixes
[05:17] <monkey89> use breezy if you want 1.5 :)
[05:17] <PDani> thx
[05:17] <monkey89> it might be in backports, i dont know the deal with that
[05:17] <noodle> is there a better vnc viewer than "vncviewer"?
[05:18] <monkey89> noodle, rdesktop
[05:18] <noodle> ok
[05:19] <monkey89> noodle, wait, my bad.  there's a frontend to it - tsclient
[05:19] <monkey89> it should come with ubuntu
[05:19] <noodle> ok
[05:20] <zenrox> ya ts client is easy to use
[05:20] <monkey89> i always mix them up
[05:20] <frans-th> anyone can help me to make ubuntu brand renamed
[05:20] <noodle> is there a better vnc server than gnome remote desktop?
[05:20] <somedude_> goto go, thanks all for your help! :)
[05:20] <frans-th> our goverment agree to make ubuntu become national desktop, formally
[05:20] <frans-th> but of course must use indonesian name
[05:20] <frans-th> we will use pigeon name
[05:20] <frans-th> can help?
[05:21] <monkey89> noodle, you might be interested in nxserver, which is a lot faster (but needs a different client)
[05:22] <noodle> monkey89: hmm ok
[05:22] <Seveas> nx is awesome
[05:22] <Seveas> freenx is the open source variant
[05:22] <DVSoftware> one quick question
[05:22] <uthini> hey ppl
[05:22] <noodle> would it work mac to linux and vice versa though?
[05:22] <monkey89> Seveas, eh?  where
[05:23] <Seveas> noodle, don't know about mac actually, check nomachine.com
[05:23] <Seveas> monkey89, it's diabled now ;)
[05:23] <monkey89> i stopped using nx because i couldn't find the client, iirc
[05:23] <DVSoftware> i'm running firefox in 32bit chroot here
[05:23] <monkey89> i mean, what web client
[05:23] <DVSoftware> can somebody tell me name of the java package
[05:23] <Seveas> monkey89, they released the 'nx web companion' a fw weeks ago
[05:23] <monkey89> ah
[05:23] <maverick> folk, clicking the gnome help icon gives me this error - "cannot launch icon, failed to execute child process "help" (no such directory or file) " pls help me
[05:23] <uthini> !windowsdrives
[05:23] <Seveas> it's on nomachines download page
[05:23] <ubotu> I guess windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[05:23] <monkey89> awesome, thanks much
[05:23] <kiwikio> join # ubuntu-fr
[05:24] <_frank_> DVSoftware: sun-j2re1.5
[05:24] <DVSoftware> tnx
[05:24] <_frank_> DVSoftware: install that in the chroot?
[05:24] <vontrapp> DVSoftware: this might help: http://von.fugal.net/blog/2004/10/04#java-debian
[05:24] <DVSoftware> i know that :)
[05:25] <DVSoftware> errm
[05:25] <DVSoftware> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[05:25] <_frank_> DVSoftware: its in backports
[05:25] <DVSoftware> ahh
[05:25] <Seveas> DVSoftware, debs can be found at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:25] <_frank_> DVSoftware: hoary-extras I think
[05:25] <Seveas> backports no longer has it
[05:25] <_frank_> what?
[05:25] <monkey89> Seveas, can you use the web companion with freenx?
[05:25] <Seveas> vontrapp, that guide is on serious crack
[05:25] <Seveas> it's exactly the way NOT to install java..
[05:25] <Seveas> monkey89, yes
[05:26] <monkey89> awesome... i remember now, the reason i didn't use nx was because the client needed to be installed, and i don't have admin privs on my school comps
[05:26] <PDani> is it safe to install the libc6 from breezy with all of the other packages from hoary?
[05:26] <monkey89> this is great, vnc is slooow
[05:26] <Seveas> PDani, NO!
[05:26] <Ng> PDani: if you need to ask, you don't want to replace libc ;)
[05:26] <vontrapp> Seveas: it is if you want the newest sun vm
[05:26] <Seveas> vontrapp, no way
[05:26] <Ng> vontrapp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[05:27] <Ng> random unpackaged alternatives are a nightmare waiting to happen
[05:27] <_frank_> Seveas: its true, backports doesn't have java anymore. Why is that?
[05:27] <Seveas> _frank_, ENOCLUE
[05:27] <DVSoftware> Seveas, can i get user id and pass please :)
[05:27] <janne__> Hi all!
[05:27] <Seveas> DVSoftware, of course :)
[05:27] <Seveas>  /msg me the desired user/pass
[05:27] <janne__> How can remove programs in wine?
[05:28] <janne__> can i just delete folder
[05:28] <DVSoftware> janne__, yes
[05:28] <janne__> k....
[05:28] <janne__> does it leave behind scrap files....?
[05:28] <vontrapp> ok, so whenever i upgrade firefox to 1.0.6, the middle click load url feature stops working
[05:28] <vontrapp> anyone else experience this?
[05:28] <Seveas> vontrapp, which 1.0.6 do you use?
[05:29] <vontrapp> 1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1
[05:29] <bilbo> hi: does anyone know if it is possible to turn my laptop with a wireless network card into a wireless access point?
[05:29] <Seveas> bilbo, it is
[05:29] <vontrapp> bilbo: depends on the wireless card
[05:29] <Seveas> put your card in maste mode (and install a dhcp server if wanted)
[05:30] <vontrapp> but yes, if it has master mode, that will do it
[05:30] <bilbo> is there any site with a recipe for that?
[05:30] <mcrawfor> hey folks, when trying to compile various things, I get the message:
[05:30] <mcrawfor> error: You must have pthreads to compile
[05:31] <mcrawfor> does anyone know what dev library I should get from apt to address this?
[05:31] <lexmark> does unbuntu see fat32 partitions?
[05:31] <kiwikio> yes
[05:31] <DVSoftware> little offtopic question, but does anyone knows some invision power board lyrics addon?
[05:31] <_frank_> Seveas: how did you build your java package? what should we say to new users to do to get java installed easily?
[05:31] <Seveas> mcrawfor, build-essential should do it
[05:31] <survivor> lexmark, yes, there are scripts floating around for it to see both FAT32 and NTFS partitions
[05:31] <Seveas> lexmark: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[05:31] <lexmark> thats what I thought
[05:31] <Seveas> _frank_, my packages are pure java-package packages
[05:32] <mcrawfor> Seveas: I'll give that a shot, apt-getting some other software right now
[05:32] <lexmark> just another question.... why are ppl still using windows when OS like unbuntu are available?
[05:32] <lexmark> lol
[05:32] <Seveas> _frank_, but most new users don't understand java-package or want to do the hassle :)
[05:32] <DVSoftware> lexmark, 'cos they're stupid :D
[05:32] <mcrawfor> Seveas: wonderful, that did it... well, got to the next library i need ;)
[05:32] <Seveas> lexmark, why is bush still president of the US ;)
[05:32] <mcrawfor> I love new installs
[05:33] <mjbunink> Gaming ofcourse. It doesn't matter if that locks up
[05:33] <ubuntuguy> installing Java is easy: just download the bin file, run it, and set your path correctly
[05:33] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, that's the bad way of doing it...
[05:33] <Ng> ubuntuguy: having it in a proper package is better
[05:33] <DVSoftware> mjbunink, i play games on my ubuntu box
[05:33] <lexmark> yeah, thats what I thought... only reason I installed unbuntu is to learn some linux.. didnt expect this to be this easy
[05:33] <Seveas> lexmark, disappointed? ;)
[05:33] <Seveas> try gentoo if you want to have a hard time ;)
[05:34] <lexmark> of course I have not mastered command line parameters yet
[05:34] <Ng> or turn X off :)
[05:34] <lexmark> but I think most ppl can handle Linux
[05:34] <lexmark> or unbuntu
[05:34] <uthini> erm Seveas, how is it possible, that yesterday i managed to mount and read a drive, but today, after i formatted the system drive (not the drive i'm trying to read) i cannot find any data on the drive? i know i messed up the partitiontable, is it possible to correct the partition table, or will that scramble the data on the drive?
[05:34] <mjbunink> DVSoftware, what? Solitaire? pingu? xbill? ;)
[05:34] <PDani> how can i build gaim with apt-get from breezy with hoary deps?
[05:34] <ubuntuguy> seveas: why is that bad? what's wrong with it?
[05:34] <PDani> with apt-get or some dpkg tools
[05:34] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, it does not integrate cleanly in your system, making removing/upgrading tough
[05:35] <Seveas> believe me, I tried it :)
[05:35] <survivor> lexmark: Sure, they can handle it. But they can't handle being disconnected from all their loved software.
[05:35] <Seveas> and don't even think about having 2 java versions installed :D
[05:35] <uthini> i'm having issues with apt-get, its not finding headers
[05:35] <Ng> Seveas: you can have loads of java vms installed, I have at least 3 :)
[05:35] <survivor> (Like me.)
[05:35] <uthini> and if i leave it running, when i come back my system is very very quite
[05:35] <deFrysk> ubuntuguy, debfiles wont recognise the java you installed so it can couse problems during install of some package
[05:35] <Seveas> uthini, please elaborate a bit more about the disk problem, output of fdisk -l and the name of the failing drive would help
[05:36] <Seveas> Ng, with debfiles it's easy indeed :)
[05:36] <DVSoftware> mjbunink, cedega can run a lot of windows games
[05:36] <vontrapp> that's why you set the alternatives and install the dummy-virtual-machine
[05:36] <Ng> Seveas: absolutely, I would always recommend that way if at all possible :)
[05:36] <survivor> I tried converting to Linux once, together with my whole family. Setting up Linux wasn't even hard back then.
[05:36] <Seveas> vontrapp, bull
[05:36] <ubuntuguy> seveas: incorrect, in this case. All the files are in one directory. You want to remove java just rm that dir. as far as integration is concerned, setting the path is the only thing that needs to be done, with a deb package or without.
[05:36] <Seveas> don't do the hassle if there's a *clean* way of doing it
[05:36] <survivor> But it's what comes afterwards that matters...
[05:36] <mjbunink> cedega? Don't you mean wine?
[05:36] <Seveas> ubotu, incorrect :)
[05:36] <ubotu> Seveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:36] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, incorrect :)
[05:37] <Seveas> java installers install stuff in /etc and /usr/share too
[05:37] <ubuntuguy> seveas: how so?
[05:37] <Seveas> java installers install stuff in /etc and /usr/share too <-- that's how
[05:37] <mjbunink> DVSoftware, a quick google later I see I have to apologise ;)
[05:37] <uthini> Seveas, /dev/hdb1   *           1       10011    80413326    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:37] <uthini> but Seveas, there are sub partitions.
[05:38] <mjbunink> DVSoftware, does it work well for you?
[05:38] <ubuntuguy> seveas: I don't think that's true with the bin file, but I will check. Thanks for the info.
[05:38] <DVSoftware> mjbunink, well, i've played a lot of games
[05:38] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, it's true :)
[05:38] <janne__> how i can remove directory full of files....?
[05:38] <deFrysk> janne__, rm -rf
[05:38] <DVSoftware> far cry, hl2, nfsu1/2, flatout, wc3, starcraft, wow, anarchy online, settlers 5...
[05:38] <uthini> Seveas, i dl'ed sleuth recovery, but i don't have enough disk space to create an image of the drive
[05:38] <janne__> oh...thanks!
[05:39] <deFrysk> janne__, rm -rf <directory>
[05:39] <deFrysk> to be more specific
[05:39] <uthini> DVSoftware, did u play nfsu2 on linux?
[05:39] <DVSoftware> yep
[05:39] <_frank_> Seveas: the backport problems are only temporary I think. you still can download manually at http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ the hoary-extras packages
[05:39] <uthini> DVSoftware, i'm having troubles with it, can you help me please?
[05:39] <DVSoftware> uthini, you need cedega and installer from loki
[05:39] <vontrapp> Seveas: i don't recall the jdk installer putting anything anywhere except the directory i ran it in, but it _has_ been a long time
[05:39] <janne__> Thanks very much deFrysk....job done =)
[05:40] <uthini> DVSoftware, it's installed already, but it won't run
[05:40] <DVSoftware> then you need no-cd patch
[05:40] <uthini> DVSoftware, r u certain? it doesn't mention the CD issue, should i get the no-cd patch regardless? it just freezes @ the splash screen
[05:41] <PDani> does the dpkg-buildpackage apply the patches on the source?
[05:41] <DVSoftware> uthini, try with no cd patch
[05:41] <janne__> bye!
[05:41] <DVSoftware> it worked flawlessly here (with no cd patch)
[05:42] <vontrapp> i take it nobody has the middle click problem with firefox? i was hoping someone might know how to fix it
[05:43] <deFrysk> vontrapp, middleclick in firefox open link in net tab for me
[05:43] <Ng> vontrapp: it still works fine for me after upgrading. maybe disable the option and re-enable it? or try a new firefox user profile?
[05:43] <thoreauputic> can anyone confirm that https://launchpad.net/ is currently b0rked ?
[05:43] <slist> how can i burn iso dvd file with nautilus?
[05:43] <deFrysk> did I type that ?
[05:43] <monkey89> slist, right click the iso, "burn image"
[05:44] <Ng> thoreauputic: it loads here
[05:44] <uthini> DVSoftware, i think my computer is biased against me :P
[05:44] <deFrysk> vontrapp, middleklick in firefox opens link in new tab for me
[05:44] <slist> monkey89: haha thanks :D
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Ng: :/
[05:44] <vontrapp> no, not middle clicking a link, but middle click (pasting) the clipboard to the content to load the url in the clipboard
[05:44] <PDani>   libgnutls11-dev: Depends: libgnutls11 (= 1.0.16-13) but 1.0.16-13ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[05:44] <DVSoftware> uthini, did you tried no cd?
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Ng: I just get an error message
[05:44] <blackpearl> i need help... i dont have any user in sudoers group
[05:44] <uthini> DVSoftware, i'm in south africa, you gotta give it time to download
[05:44] <blackpearl> pls help me
[05:44] <PDani> any idea?
[05:44] <Ng> thoreauputic: what kind of error?
[05:44] <blackpearl> how do i log in as sudo
[05:45] <blackpearl> root
[05:45] <Ng> blackpearl: boot into rescue mode and you get a root shell
[05:45] <deFrysk> ! sudo
[05:45] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:45] <DVSoftware> uthini, 56k?
[05:45] <vontrapp> blackpearl: it should have added the first user you created during install to the sudoers group
[05:45] <thoreauputic> aha! it just loaded on the umpteenth try
[05:45] <uthini> DVSoftware, 128K
[05:45] <Ng> thoreauputic: :)
[05:45] <blackpearl> yes, but i changed that my mistake
[05:45] <DVSoftware> well i have 64k in serbia :)
[05:45] <blackpearl> how do i enable it now ?
[05:45] <DVSoftware> here in czech republic
[05:45] <Subson1x> are there any good ubuntu blogs out there? my rss feed needs fresh ubuntu information :)
[05:46] <DVSoftware> i have 100mbits
[05:46] <vontrapp> blackpearl: do the rescue thing suggested then
[05:46] <blackpearl> after going into rescue mode, how shld i proceed ?
[05:47] <mjbunink> Q for any Ubuntu developer present: What was the reason for making dbl-click the top border of a window (un)max a window? Why not stay with the roll-up?
[05:47] <vontrapp> adduser <user> <admin>
[05:47] <jacob> Can anybondy help? I can't find winbind in the package list for Unbuntu 5.04, also apt-get install winbind gets me package not found error.  Is there another name for winbind?
[05:47] <frans-th> anyone have try canon scanner in ubuntu, ?? anyone know how to setup TWAIn in linux?
[05:47] <deFrysk> vontrapp, pasting works fine here
[05:47] <Ng> blackpearl: "adduser username admin" where "username" is the user you want to have sudo access
[05:47] <blackpearl> okie thanks
[05:47] <medamaybe> can anyone tell me where I can change the " default application"  for a certain filetype?
[05:48] <Ng> medamaybe: right click on the file, choose properties and it's the "open with" tab
[05:48] <medamaybe> Ng, ok, but what if I want to change it for a lot of filetypes?
[05:49] <medamaybe> I mean...I saw a list somewhere, just can't remember where I saw it
[05:49] <vontrapp> well, there's the mailcap, not sure how many programs use it anymore
[05:49] <lexmark> I just ran the script that detects fat32 and ntfs..but when I go to "computer" I only see file system that lists the unbuntu files
[05:49] <DrSpin> !repositories
[05:49] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:50] <lexmark> I should be able to see at least fat32 files
[05:50] <lexmark> might be going to the wrong place, is it under "computer"
[05:50] <Ng> medamaybe: afair they are stored as gconf keys
[05:51] <spiral> hi
[05:52] <monkey89> does anyone know where to get libXp.so.6 on breezy
[05:53] <Ng> monkey89: according to packages.ubuntu.com you want libxp6
[05:53] <monkey89> not in the breezy repos, afaik
[05:54] <m0rphx> hi
[05:54] <Ng> monkey89: no idea then, packages.ubuntu.com is clearly wrong
[05:54] <salkin> mjbunink: system-preferences-windows titlebar action will let you change from maximize to roll-up
[05:54] <m0rphx> is rhythmbox crashing for someone else on breezy?
[05:54] <monkey89> no, i think its right for hoary
[05:54] <monkey89> but maybe it's part of the x11 split
[05:54] <frogtone25> i have a question
[05:55] <frogtone25> whats the name of that theme for ubuntu that looks like mac os x
[05:55] <frogtone25> you can get it from synaptic
[05:55] <Subson1x> Kroller
[05:55] <salkin> m0rphx: I talked someone through a breezy install the other night and his rhythmbox also would vanish
[05:55] <namElEz> help i installed ubuntu+grub it said it will boot to ubuntu now but it booted to windows wtf?
[05:55] <DrSpin> are there any working hoary-extras or hoary-backports servers -- Apt just IGN mirrormax and PLANETMIRROR
[05:55] <spola> yeah i had the same thing, segfaults with rythmbox
[05:56] <spola> it had something to do with an invalid ogg file i think, cuz when i deleted it eevrything was AOK
[05:57] <namElEz> no one help?
[05:57] <PDani> where can i find ubuntu breezy-to-hoary backports?
[05:57] <vontrapp> namElEz: does it give you multiple options when you boot?
[05:57] <namElEz> no strait to windows
[05:57] <namElEz> just like always
[05:57] <vontrapp> did you get a grub screen at all?
[05:57] <namElEz> no
[05:58] <m0rphx> spola: mine crashes right on startup
[05:58] <spola> namElEz, did you (re)install windows after installing ubuntu?
[05:58] <namElEz> why the hell would i done that
[05:58] <spola> m0rphx, try opening it in a terminal and see what happens
[05:58] <vontrapp> when you installed grub did you install it to the MBR or just to the partition?
[05:58] <DrSpin> APT-get update will "IGN" both the planetmirror and mirrormax haroy-extras and hoary-backports -- any clue why or how I can fix it??
[05:58] <namElEz> i dunno it just asked do i want to install it
[05:58] <namElEz> i pressed yes it said it was safe
[05:59] <m0rphx> spola: crashes right after [0x80f6b38]  [rb_shell_construct]  rb-shell.c:822 (17:58:46): Constructing shell
[05:59] <marcin> hi all
[05:59] <monkey89> k, this will probably break something but im installing it from the hoary package
[05:59] <salkin> m0rphx: my rbox will come up. No audio files on this machine to test with though. Breezy current
[05:59] <marcin> I got a question - I need to fix some broken ntfs partition
[05:59] <namElEz> i have windows on sata drive and ubuntu on ide does it mater
[05:59] <DrSpin> !java
[05:59] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:00] <marcin> and I would like to scan this hdd and find bad blocks or something
[06:00] <vontrapp> namElEz: yeah, it's probably booting off the sata drive first, and grub would be on the ide
[06:00] <marcin> is there any linux tool to scan hdd with ntfs partition?
[06:00] <namElEz> so i need to change bootdrive on bios?
[06:00] <Subson1x> are there any good ubuntu blogs out there?
[06:00] <salkin> Subson1x: planet.ubuntu.com
[06:00] <spola> m0rphx, well that's a bit beyond me ... try temporarely moving you configuration to a seperate location and restarting it, if that doesn't fix it i'd file a bug
[06:00] <vontrapp> namElEz: if you can do that, then yes
[06:00] <namElEz> i go and try
[06:01] <m0rphx> spola: yep, tried that. still crashes
[06:01] <vontrapp> does hoary have alsa 1.0.9 yet?
[06:02] <m0rphx> volvoguy: yes
[06:02] <m0rphx> aeh, s/volvoguy/vontrapp/
[06:03] <franco64> greats to everyone
[06:03] <spola> m0rphx, file a bug :)
[06:03] <vontrapp> m0rphx: awesome
[06:03] <thehil>  If sum and size are int value, does (float)sum/(float)size calculate their quotient?
[06:03] <franco64> my first couple of weeks with the ubuntu distro
[06:03] <franco64> not bad
[06:04] <m0rphx> spola: I looked at the changelog right now, I think it's already fixed in cvs
[06:04] <m0rphx> franco64: that's cool
[06:05] <franco64> well i am still a little novice on the linux  at the moment and a friend of mine said top try this
[06:06] <franco64> i had the fedora discs but i do not want another redhat linux type
[06:07] <franco64> i think it's better to get to the dirty stuff and learn the coding method of installation
[06:07] <bytefoo> ooooh
[06:07] <bytefoo> i hit ctrl+c while doing a dist-upgrade >_<
[06:07] <bytefoo> that's not gonna be good :X
[06:07] <vontrapp> bytefoo: i think you should be fine if you just run it again
[06:08] <bytefoo> says dpkg is locked :-/
[06:08] <m0rphx> try dpkg --configure -a
[06:08] <m0rphx> or something like that
[06:09] <franco64>  can anyone help me getting clamav showing as a app on the applications option
[06:09] <franco64> i have it installed and works fine in the back ground
[06:09] <janne__> how can i make short cuts to files....like game what im playing in root and using wine to open it?
[06:11] <spola> hmm i downloaded a file and i don't know what it is, when i file it it says "data"
[06:12] <janne__> can someone help me to make shortcut? To wine game....
[06:12] <Winux> Hello
[06:12] <Winux> Can anybody help me?
[06:13] <andydavid> hola mundo
[06:13] <Winux> Does anybody know how to create a second user?
[06:13] <franco64> well u can use the ln -s command to make a symlink
[06:14] <franco64> if u want any info on ubuntu i would recommand going to http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[06:14] <franco64> Winux: has what u want
[06:15] <qt2> err, is thre a way to restore the default permissions of a certain directory?
[06:15] <ivoks> qt2: which one?
[06:15] <qt2> someone at my house somehow managed to chmod my /etc dir... <.<;
[06:15] <franco64> janne__ u see my commant on creating a symlink
[06:15] <andydavid> nadie habla espanol aqui
[06:15] <ivoks> qt2: chown root:root /etc
[06:15] <ivoks> qt2: chmod 755 /etc
[06:16] <qt2> thanks ;)
[06:16] <qt2> ivoks, is that recursive?
[06:16] <ivoks> qt2: no
[06:16] <Masterkong> what's the best music and movie players for linux?
[06:17] <qt2> because i'm pretty sure the command used was chown -R
[06:17] <ivoks> heh
[06:17] <ivoks> reinstall :)
[06:18] <mae> Masterkong, the most tried and true ones would be either mplayer or xine .. youll also need libdvdread3 and libdvdcss for playing dvd's and the win32 codecs to play various non-free codecs
[06:18] <Malin`> does ubuntu have php installed by default?
[06:18] <ivoks> no
[06:18] <mae> no
[06:18] <mae> php sucks
[06:18] <mae> :)
[06:18] <Malin`> thx
[06:18] <ivoks> python rulz
[06:18] <mae> python s'ok
[06:18] <frisbeboy> faster than php?
[06:18] <DrSpin> Sun's Java download page is hosed
[06:19] <mae> frisbeboy, speed really isn't the issue, the issue is that php is not good for large projects it gets really sloppy
[06:19] <f_newton> Seveas, are you around?
[06:19] <Subson1x> mae: what is better? JSP`
[06:19] <frisbeboy> mae: what do you mean?
[06:19] <DrSpin> mae: any coded program gets sloppy --
[06:19] <Xenguy> better for what?
[06:19] <DrSpin> look at Xfree86
[06:19] <DrSpin> ;)
[06:20] <haakonn> sloppy? it's more that the code becomes hard to maintain :)
[06:20] <f_newton> how about thoreauputic ?
[06:20] <frisbeboy> aaa mm
[06:20] <mae> Subson1x, JSP is O.K. python is pretty good, ruby on rails is good, they use fully object oriented languages.. (well python.. almost)
[06:20] <salkin> Subson1x: common lisp
[06:20] <f_newton> !partitioning
[06:20] <ubotu> f_newton: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:20] <namElEz> it started ubuntu
[06:20] <f_newton> I need to partition a dual boot box...\
[06:20] <cobb> Hello, I thought usermod -G added groups to a user. Next time I will remember to include previous groups the user was member of. At least groups needed for sudo. Ok, thanks
[06:21] <namElEz> but it when it tried to read cd it complained about I/O error on hda
[06:21] <namElEz> then some package handling program started
[06:21] <Subson1x> mae: but JSP only if you make use of netbeans, the plain JSP is similar to PHP, isn't it?
[06:21] <salkin> Subson1x: check out http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/
[06:21] <f_newton> I am sure how to do that with the partitioner available with ubuntu
[06:21] <mae> Off i go to have some all-bran cereal to make me more regular
[06:21] <namElEz> and i acccidently exited it
[06:21] <f_newton> !dual boot
[06:21] <ubotu> f_newton: What?
[06:22] <namElEz> how do i get ubuntu to graphic interface
[06:22] <f_newton> !installation
[06:22] <ubotu> f_newton: No idea
[06:22] <f_newton> yeah
[06:22] <f_newton> great
[06:22] <thenuke> namElEz: startx
[06:22] <namElEz> didnt work
[06:22] <mae> Subson1x, err, netbeans is an IDE.. plain JSP still uses Java which is object oriented, PHP is a "quick and dirty" abominiation/combination of perl/c syntax with less features
[06:22] <namElEz> so the installation didnt complete
[06:22] <thenuke> reboot
[06:22] <DrSpin> namElEz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <Subson1x> mae: i meant javabeans, sorry
[06:23] <namElEz> but how can i complete installation
[06:23] <franco64> namElez; what did u install KDE or Gnome
[06:23] <DrSpin> namElEz: are you in the installer now?
[06:23] <namElEz> no im in windows
[06:23] <mae> Subson1x, hehe well still even without the beans, java is still a bit better than php, but you can't beat php for quick and dirty stuff
[06:23] <f_newton> DrSpin, do you know where i can find out how to dual boot a win/ubuntu box?
[06:23] <DrSpin> namElEz: when you boot to linux it just comes up to a prompt ?
[06:23] <mae> but long-term maintainability, it sucks :)
[06:23] <DrSpin> f_newton: yes wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:23] <f_newton> thanks
[06:23] <Subson1x> mae: but i thought the new version of php is fully object orientated?
[06:24] <DrSpin> f_newton: np
[06:24] <salkin> Subson1x: oriented
[06:24] <cobb> can someone please run id and tell me which groups their primary (sudo-able) account is a member off?
[06:24] <namElEz> when i booted 1st time to ubuntu it asked for ubuntu cd i put it in and press enter. it said something about I/O errors on hda and put me in some packga handling program
[06:24] <mae> Subson1x, I am not sure about the new version.. version 6? .. well it might be but if it is, it is just _now_ achieving that :)
[06:24] <Subson1x> mae: hehe, ok :)
[06:25] <uthini> DVSoftware, it worked, the no CD patch, kinda dumb tho, i buy the game ligitimately now i gotta crack it :) its like Maya, maya is easier to crack than to license LOL
[06:25] <namElEz> i accidentaly quited it i didnt know what to do with it
[06:25] <DrSpin> adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin cole musicfiles
[06:25] <ivoks> who's for a game of njam?
[06:25] <sdfg> Hi everybody.. I need some help :) trying to install 5.04 on a brand new PC (with serial ATA), and it hangs for ever on the "configuring main archive" screen... heeeeelp :(
[06:25] <DrSpin> sudo nano -w /etc/suders
[06:25] <DrSpin> and put your username in there
[06:25] <salkin> cobb:  groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(my username)
[06:25] <cobb> uthini: Easier to crack by yourself or by others? hehe ;-)
[06:25] <cobb> salkin: Thank you a bunch
[06:25] <ivoks> no one?
[06:25] <ivoks> :(
[06:25] <salkin> cobb: np
[06:26] <funkyHat> can i make screen start up automatically when i open a terminal/log into a terminal?
[06:26] <uthini> lol cobb, its easier to use a cracked version than to license the software properly, found that out at college
[06:26] <namElEz> so theres no solution for me?
[06:26] <mae> Subson1x, don't get me wrong, theres some good stuff written in php, like that forum i forgot its name.. but i am not a glutton for punishment like that :)
[06:26] <sdfg> so is it possible to install 5.04 on a 80GB serail ATA system ?
[06:26] <DrSpin> namElEz: saving you some heartache -- I would just restart the installer...
[06:26] <sdfg> serial ATA
[06:26] <funkyHat> i'm guessing i add something to ~/.bashrc but i don't understand the layout of it
[06:26] <ivoks> namElEz: your CD is dirty
[06:26] <namElEz> so i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[06:26] <mae> phpbb
[06:26] <DrSpin> namElEz: if it doesn't work -- syre
[06:27] <Subson1x> mae: phpbb is one big security hole :)
[06:27] <Subson1x> vbulletin is good, but commercial
[06:27] <namElEz> damn this sucks
[06:27] <funkyHat> Subson1x, what about phpbb with php safe mode enabled?
[06:28] <sdfg> please anyboy. any idea why my ubuntu install hangs forever ????????
[06:28] <unk^lap> I LOVE UBUNTU :D
[06:28] <Subson1x> funkyHat: depends on the provider, most users have no influence on that
[06:28] <tronica> same here
[06:28] <sdfg> so do I, that's why I'm trying to install it
[06:28] <mae> sdfg, try this on the boot prompt: "linux pci=noacpi noapic nolapic"
[06:28] <funkyHat> can anyone aswer my question about screen? ^
[06:29] <sdfg> mae.. thanks a million.. will try this
[06:29] <namElEz> do i need to delete ubuntu partitons before reinstalling?
[06:29] <_frank_> DrSpin: you still there?
[06:29] <_[MUPPETS] Gonzo> format them, this should be enough :)
[06:29] <_frank_> Seveas: the backport problems are only temporary I think. you still can download manually at http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ the hoary-extras packages
[06:30] <DrSpin> _frank_: ???
[06:30] <_frank_> DrSpin: you can download java there
[06:30] <namElEz> how do i format them lol windows cant format them to ext3 or swap
[06:30] <sdfg> mae do you think it has something to do with serial ATA ? looks like he found the disk correctly
[06:30] <_frank_> DrSpin: and install with dpkg
[06:31] <mae> sdfg, i don't know, it depends where it freezes on install
[06:31] <mae> sdfg, did that line not help?
[06:31] <DrSpin> _frank_: as soon as I read manual download I was on it :)
[06:31] <funkyHat> namElEz, you can do it in the installer
[06:31] <DrSpin> _frank_: thanks
[06:31] <DrSpin> because the SUN download page won't load -- it just sits there  LOL
[06:31] <namElEz> ohh ill try with other dvd drive then
[06:31] <_frank_> DrSpin: its annoying when things that should work don't!
[06:32] <DrSpin> namElEz: WinXP works VERY well with EXT2FSD -- +RW and has a mkefs -j utility :)
[06:32] <mr>
[06:33] <DrSpin> mr: That guy says some astounding things :S LOL
[06:33] <monkey89> ah, gnome games 2.11 is SO nice
[06:34] <monkey89> minesweeper is easier, solitaire is fixed up
[06:34] <monkey89> considering that i spend 90% of my time there, its nice :)
[06:34] <benjamin1254> my browser keeps on shutting down on me
[06:35] <benjamin1254> i open it and it quits on me few min later
[06:35] <monkey89> benjamin1254, try running it in a terminal to see what it crashes on
[06:35] <benjamin1254> how?
[06:35] <monkey89> benjamin1254, Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal, then "firefox"
[06:35] <c0rrupt_> lmao
[06:35] <monkey89> then if/when it crashes, there will probably be an error message in the terminal window
[06:35] <DrSpin> hooray for JAVA
[06:36] <_jeff> funkyHat: I don't know if you got the last thing I said since my internet connection went down
[06:36] <benjamin1254> terminal termintated for an unknown reason when i started it up
[06:36] <DrSpin> !audio
[06:36] <ubotu> DrSpin: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:36] <DrSpin> !burn
[06:36] <ubotu> DrSpin: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:36] <funkyHat> _jeff, looks like i didn't
[06:36] <DrSpin> !audioCD
[06:36] <ubotu> DrSpin: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:36] <Seveas> DrSchlauf, don't play with it
[06:36] <Seveas> DrSpin*
[06:36] <_jeff> Don't put it in .bashrc, since screen starts up bash
[06:36] <\dev\goat> hooray for super fast page transitions in deerpark alpha 2 !~
[06:36] <monkey89> benjamin1254, sounds like you have some bigger problem if terminal doesn't run... i dont know
[06:36] <DrSpin> what does #ubuntu reccomend to burn audio CD's for MP3, OGG, AAC
[06:37] <monkey89> DrSpin, serpentine?
[06:37] <h08817> i have a problem starting linux
[06:37] <DrSpin> never even heard of it
[06:37] <Seveas> graveman/gnomebaker/k3b
[06:37] <monkey89> it comes w/ breezy, don't know about hoary
[06:37] <_jeff> And infinite recursion isn't fun.
[06:37] <h08817> i have ubuntu
[06:37] <Seveas> and for breezy: serpentine
[06:37] <_jeff>  If you're using the gnome terminal, go to file and create a new profile.
[06:37] <adriyel__> _jeff GNU's Not Unix :P
[06:37] <_frank_> DrSpin: java worked?
[06:37] <DrSpin> gnomebaker doesn't work -- libao "do you have write permissions" so I chmoded it but doesn't fix it
[06:37] <DrSpin> _frank_: yup
[06:37] <monkey89> Seveas, btw, i tried getting nxplugin - when I try running the applet on this computer, it dies :(
[06:37] <DrSpin> java-version
[06:38] <monkey89> and nxclient hard locks trying to connect to localhost
[06:38] <DrSpin> java version "1.5.0_04"
[06:38] <monkey89> i have to check it out downstairs
[06:38] <Seveas> monkey89, talk to me later about that, have to go dogwalking now
[06:38] <monkey89> ok, bye
[06:38] <h08817> i get a t3-fs error ext3_find_entry: reading directory #655393 0[fail] 1
[06:38] <sdfg> mae.. stragely it freezes on the "preparring main archive for install" line (or something like that) (french translation...)
[06:38] <h08817> then it tells me to run fsck manually
[06:38] <_frank_> DrSpin: great maybe now I should upgrade mine, don't know what has changed since _02 though
[06:38] <h08817> what does it mean?
[06:38] <shamus> I just downloaded and isntalled a bittorrent .deb, how do I run the program?
[06:38] <monkey89> shamus, dpkg -i whatever.deb
[06:39] <monkey89> hope its legal :)
[06:39] <mae> sdfg, which cd are you using?
[06:39] <h08817> do u think reinstalling ubuntu will fix my problem?
[06:39] <sdfg> mae ISO install CD 5.04
[06:39] <shamus> monkey89, I've already installed it, i want to run the program itself
[06:39] <monkey89> shamus, depends on what the .deb is, see what files it installed in synaptic
[06:39] <_frank_> shamus: what bt client is it?
[06:39] <mae> hrmm
[06:39] <sdfg> mae it worked no problem on my old PC.. seems like this new hardware makes trouble
[06:40] <DrSpin> oooh Graveman is MUCH nicer than last time I used it
[06:40] <shamus> _frank_, bittorrent; it was the only one I could find for linux, besides Azureus.. which for some reason won't run
[06:40] <h08817> any developers in here right now?
[06:40] <mae> sdfg, what chipset?
[06:41] <storr> QUESTION - How do I export the address book from Evolution? /usr/lib/2.2/evolution-addressbook-export --format=csv does not work and Openoffice data source 'addressbook' displays blank valuses. tnks!
[06:42] <h08817> i can't even get into ubuntu
[06:42] <DekaPink> Does gunzip delete the file it was extracting from after it finishes extracting? :3
[06:42] <nightswim> DekaPink: yes
[06:42] <h08817> i could yesterday but now i can't
[06:42] <_frank_> shamus: azureus works for me. Also bittornado is in synaptic
[06:42] <reagent> hi
[06:42] <monkey89> doesn't ubuntu come with a torrent client on hoary
[06:42] <DrSpin> LOL
[06:43] <DrSpin> "cannot open input file (NULL)
[06:43] <reagent> I must be stupid, but I can't find the ubuntu netinstall images...
[06:43] <h08817> monkey89: yes
[06:43] <DrSpin> k3b i is
[06:43] <SymGeosis> Is anybody else having problems installing flash, lame, Sun JRE or mjpegtools from the repos? apt-cache can't find them nor can synaptic.
[06:43] <DrSpin> does k3b still require root permissions to work??
[06:43] <monkey89> SymGeosis, did you add multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:43] <SymGeosis> monkey89, I have.
[06:43] <monkey89> SymGeosis, and ran apt-get update?  apologies if this is obvious
[06:44] <DrSpin> SymGeosis: the backports and extras servers are having problems ---
[06:44] <SymGeosis> monkey89 yes. (it is but I don't mind as you're trying to help)
[06:44] <monkey89> different thing, you shouldnt need that for at least flash/lame
[06:44] <SymGeosis> DrSpin, I see. Thanks.
[06:44] <monkey89> SymGeosis, flashplayer-mozilla doesn't exist?
[06:44] <DrSpin> SymGeosis: you can get em from the mirrormax server as a downloaded .deb and then install with dpkg -i FILE.deb
[06:45] <franco64> symgeosis: have u added the extra repo
[06:45] <Malin`> how can i uninstall a program i installed from .tar.gz file?
[06:45] <SymGeosis> monkey89, Negative. I imported the sources.lst first from my other Ubuntu box and then Ubuntuguide which includes mirrormax, neither of them work.
[06:45] <DrSpin> is there a program that will burn cd's without ROOT privelages -- this is getting rediculous
[06:45] <SymGeosis> franco64, Affirmative.
[06:45] <monkey89> Malin`: if it was a ./configure/make/make install, a make uninstall or maybe deinstall from the directory should work
[06:45] <Jhair> would an installation from netinstall images only be successful if you can connect to a DHCP server?
[06:45] <SymGeosis> I even added the new official backport server.
[06:45] <h08817> what is fsck
[06:45] <alex_> hey what can I use to listen to a oggvorbis stream
[06:46] <Malin`> thanks monkey89
[06:46] <DrSpin> SymGeosis: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/
[06:46] <Subson1x> h08817: a filesystem check
[06:46] <Subson1x> man fsck
[06:46] <monkey89> SymGeosis, that's very odd then... I'm on breezy, so I don't know if it's a hoary specific problem, but i have flash no problem here.  sorry
[06:46] <h08817> Subson1x: well i have a problem and i can't get into ubuntu
[06:46] <SymGeosis> I got this after a clean install. I used the same sources list that I had before so it's really strange.
[06:46] <alex_> anyone has an idea or should I install XMs ?
[06:47] <franco64> strange becuase i run apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and it works fine for me
[06:47] <franco64> have all those apps that u mention working on my system
[06:47] <reagent> can anyone tell me where I can find the ubuntu netinstall images?
[06:47] <SymGeosis> I even copied exactly what ubuntuguide has which has worked before in the past so I don't know what's up.
[06:48] <sdfg> mae via vt6307
[06:48] <h08817> Subson1x: i get a t3-fs error ext3_find_entry: reading directory #655393 0[fail] 1
[06:48] <h08817> Subson1x: then it says run fsck manually and it crashes
[06:48] <franco64> u might have to recompile some programs
[06:49] <Belutz> !fonts
[06:49] <ubotu> I heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[06:49] <clubwins> bojour
[06:49] <Belutz> thx ubotu
[06:49] <Subson1x> h08817: boot with a rescue cd and start fsck manually
[06:50] <h08817> Subson1x: with the cd which i installed ubuntu?
[06:50] <benjamin1254> hey this is wha i get in root terminal for when firefox dies out
[06:50] <benjamin1254> *** loading the extensions datasource
[06:50] <benjamin1254> *** loading the extensions datasource
[06:50] <benjamin1254> Segmentation fault
[06:50] <monkey89> segfault=bad
[06:50] <monkey89> as to why its happening... hmm
[06:50] <openBack> hi, I copied all of /usr to another partition, and am using that as /usr now, but I'm wondering what the best way to delete the file in the original /usr is
[06:50] <catfox> does anyone know if oggenc has any option to speed up encoding? it's quite slow compared to lame with "preset fast standard" option
[06:51] <shamus> How can I make a .torrent file ?
[06:51] <DrSpin> lmfao -- k3b is the ONLY burning application that will work without root privelages
[06:51] <benjamin1254> shamus why would u need 2?
[06:51] <mae> sdfg, hrmm.. well look at the help on bootup and see what else they reccomend for crashing or maybe via chipsets
[06:51] <DrSpin> that blows my mind
[06:51] <mae> i think its like f5 or something
[06:51] <decaf> shamus: use azureus for all bittorrent needs
[06:52] <DrSpin> oh and t freezes mid burn :/
[06:53] <franco64> i would love to use azureus but it will not work for me
[06:53] <benjamin1254> mokey i have been through ebay and paypal alot and everytime it  crashes it gets even worse w/ java and javascript turned on... i need thoes cuz some of thoes sites need it to work... it cutss out alot in the midst of a search
[06:53] <Fish-Face> Is it possible to tell apt that a broken package isn't?
[06:54] <storr> Question - Evolution Addressbook. Howto export the data. Any ideas?
[06:54] <mae> sdfg, did you check the integrity of your cd?
[06:54] <jepeltw> hello all. I'm trying to install ndiswrapper 1.2 from source. I installed the kernel-source-2.6.10 package and linked /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10, but make reports that the directory does not contain the kernel source
[06:54] <mc_flurry> iros todos a tomar por culo i'm spanish
[06:55] <shamus> decaf, I installed Azureus but I'm getting an error when trying to run it, unknown source over and over in the terminal. I get the spalsh screen and that's it
[06:55] <reagent> well now I understand why so many people are asking ubuntu questions in #debian... being simply ignored is not very nice...
[06:56] <c0rrupt_> how can you run something in a terminal in a daemon type mode even though its not daemonized
[06:56] <monkey89> reagent - maybe no one knows?
[06:56] <benjamin1254> mokey i have been through ebay and paypal alot and everytime it  crashes it gets even worse w/ java and javascript turned on... i need thoes cuz some of thoes sites need it to work... it cutss out alot in the midst of a search
[06:56] <monkey89> what's your question again
[06:56] <c0rrupt_> so it returns to the prompt with the process still running in the backround
[06:56] <reagent> monkey89: so how do you install ubuntu then...
[06:56] <reagent> monkey89: I'm looking for the netinstall images...
[06:56] <openBack> c0rrupt_: add & to the end of the command
[06:57] <JBE> I'm trying to install Sylpheed-Claws-1.0.4 from Universe.
[06:57] <decaf> shamus: can you paste it to #flood or pastebin ?
[06:57] <monkey89> reagent, ftp://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[06:57] <monkey89> nothing a quick google can
[06:57] <monkey89> can't fix
[06:57] <JBE>  However, when I type 'sudo apt-get install -f sylpheed-claws=1.0.4-1 libc6>=2.3.4-1 sylpheed-claws-i18n=1.0.4-1' the only message is "E: Broken packages"
[06:57] <monkey89> reagent, and a howto here http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[06:57] <Determinist> reagent, being lazy doesnt give you the right to criticize. people here do what they do because they want to. no one owes you anything.
[06:58] <reagent> monkey89: great, thank you
[06:58] <monkey89> no problem
[06:58] <c0rrupt_> thanks!
[06:58] <reagent> Determinist: I googled for it
[06:58] <shamus> !paste
[06:58] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:58] <monkey89> "ubuntu netinstall", first result
[06:58] <monkey89> hehe
[06:58] <DrSpin> unmaskIRQ -- CD burning works much better
[06:58] <Determinist> i rest my case.
[06:58] <monkey89> just replace warty with hoary on the page
[06:59] <openBack> hi, I copied all of /usr to another partition, and am using that as /usr now, but I'm wondering what the best way to delete the file in the original /usr is
[06:59] <reagent> monkey89: well ok ubuntu netinstall image not first result
[06:59] <monkey89> the fourth one :)
[06:59] <monkey89> im just kidding around, but googling for a while generally helps
[06:59] <shamus> decaf, here's a big chunk of the errors http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1637
[07:00] <Tortel> how do i log in as the root user?
[07:00] <Tortel> :P
[07:00] <benjamin1254> mokey i have been through ebay and paypal alot and everytime it  crashes it gets even worse w/ java and javascript turned on... i need thoes cuz some of thoes sites need it to work... it cutss out alot in the midst of a search
[07:00] <monkey89> Tortel: any reason why sudo doesn't work
[07:00] <reagent> monkey89: well I got 504 results for ubuntu netinstall image so I guessed there were no netinstall images at all...
[07:00] <cyprinus> how to extract .bin file?
[07:00] <Tortel> sudo?
[07:00] <Tortel> sorry, im new with linux
[07:01] <monkey89> Tortel, sure.  if you want to run a command as root, prefix it with "sudo"
[07:01] <Tortel> oh
[07:01] <monkey89> then just enter your password and it runs as root
[07:01] <monkey89> part of the ubuntu philosophy is not to need the root user
[07:01] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Tortel about sudo
[07:01] <monkey89> !sudo
[07:01] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:01] <monkey89> :)
[07:01] <cyprinus> can anyone advise me? 'bout .bin's?
[07:02] <monkey89> .bin's are usually self-executables.  chmod +x whatever.bin, ./whatever.bin
[07:02] <_frank_> shamus: how did you install azureus and java?
[07:02] <cyprinus> thx
[07:03] <Determinist> anyone here ever tried NX?
[07:03] <Determinist> is it any better than VNC?
[07:03] <reagent> monkey89: The link to the ftp archive is for netboot, not netinstall
[07:03] <franco64> _frank_: for java i use the following apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[07:03] <alex_> excuse me but I am not sure where you specifiy the mountpoint in the conf file or in the source client ?
[07:03] <monkey89> Determinist, much better, but it needs a client installed (not just running vncview)
[07:03] <qt2> err, is thre a way to restore the default permissions of everything recursivly in my /etc directory?
[07:03] <mae> Determinist, for low bandwidth-connections definitely, yes
[07:04] <monkey89> reagent, oh... but the howto mentions netinstall, doesn't it?
[07:04] <spola> painless p2p in ubuntu, is it possible yet?
[07:04] <thoreauputic> Seveas: OK nothing I do seems capable of convincing launchpad that I have signed the CoC - despite following directions.  Of course no doubt *I'm* at fault :/
[07:04] <shamus> _frank_, apt-get to install java and followed azureus' instructioons, I believe all they said was untar, cd and run ./azureus .. which is what i'm doing
[07:04] <Determinist> mae, for a connection with 16kbps upload?
[07:04] <monkey89> reagent, by netinstall... do you mean doing stuff like that, or do you just want it to install packages from the repositories instead of the cdrom?
[07:04] <medamaybe> how do I kill a crashed process (xmms is crashing :/)
[07:04] <Determinist> that's bytes, not bits :)
[07:04] <reagent> monkey89: yes, but I think it means netboot :). Anyway I'll look at the files and maybe it's even possible to pack them together on a cdrom
[07:04] <mae> Determinist, Kb or KB
[07:04] <monkey89> Determinist, well, vs. VNC, yes
[07:04] <mae> oh ya, no problem
[07:04] <mae> it can do good overa  modem connection
[07:05] <Determinist> medamaybe, ps ax | grep <name of program> then killall name of program
[07:05] <reagent> monkey89: yeah I want to install ubuntu from an online repo using a small iso image to boot
[07:05] <monkey89> reagent, if thats all you need to do, whats wrong with doing a standard install and then doing apt-get upgrade
[07:05] <spola> medamaybe, "killall xmms", or "xkill"
[07:05] <adjacent> how do i set my system up to automount USB flash drives?
[07:05] <medamaybe> thanks
[07:05] <redguy> !e17
[07:05] <ubotu> redguy: What?
[07:05] <Determinist> mae, KB.
[07:05] <reagent> monkey89: I don't have a CD and it would take me 2 hourse to download the image
[07:05] <Determinist> monkey89, thanks mate.
[07:05] <_frank_> shamus: you can install azureus with synaptics. If you're on amd64, you need to download the right version from the website
[07:05] <reagent> hours*
[07:05] <monkey89> reagent, and probably just as long to download the updated files? :)
[07:05] <Determinist> monkey89, any idea if the listening port is configurable? i only have port 443 open for outgoing traffic at work
[07:05] <monkey89> then how do you intend to boot from an iso
[07:05] <reagent> monkey89: no we have a local mirror
[07:05] <monkey89> Determinist, nx server runs through ssh
[07:06] <Determinist> monkey89, i see
[07:06] <franco64> shamus: what linux distro version of azureus did u download
[07:06] <Subson1x> is there a good howto somewhere to compile the kernel with ubuntu?
[07:07] <shamus> franco64, the linux gtk version
[07:07] <spekkie> Can anyone tell me a way to install mono 1.1.7 && devel tools through synaptic/apt-get without needing these ignored repositories?
[07:07] <shamus> _frank_, i searched synaptic for azureus, but it didn't find anything
[07:08] <monkey89> reagent, ok.  i can't say im sure how to make a custom CD... but perhaps looking somewhere (google/ubuntu forums) for install cd creation scripts might help
[07:08] <spola> if only there was a website where we could find documents published on the internet so we could find stuff outselves instead of endlessly asking the #ubuntu dewdz
[07:08] <reagent> monkey89: ok, thank you anyway for your efforts
[07:08] <Subson1x> spola: check out www.ubuntux.org
[07:08] <_frank_> shamus: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:08] <problematic> i need to download the jre plugin for ubuntu
[07:08] <problematic> i'd like to ask what to pick
[07:08] <Malin`> spola, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryDocumentation
[07:08] <monkey89> sun-j2re1.4 seems to work on mine
[07:09] <shamus> _frank_, hoary, x86
[07:09] <monkey89> er, without the sun-
[07:09] <monkey89> j2re1.3
[07:09] <problematic> linux amd64 or linux amd64rpm?
[07:09] <monkey89> j2re1.34
[07:09] <monkey89> arr
[07:09] <adriyel__> mmm...amd64 :)
[07:09] <adriyel__> !name
[07:09] <ubotu> adriyel__: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:09] <spola> that was a rethorical question :p (i was talking about googling)
[07:09] <_frank_> shamus: azureus is in backports, I suggest you install azureus that way
[07:09] <problematic> i've already finished the installation for that but it still won't work :P
[07:09] <shamus> _frank_, sorry, but what is backports?
[07:10] <problematic> weird... plus my firefox always hangs after a while
[07:10] <_frank_> !backports
[07:10] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[07:10] <adriyel__> problematic, are you using the 64-bit?
[07:10] <problematic> currently installed, yeah :)
[07:10] <JBE> Hi all I can see Sylpheed Claws 1.0.4-1 here:  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/sylpheed-claws/
[07:10] <adriyel__> problematic, I have an AMD3500
[07:10] <moomooboy> hello
[07:10] <problematic> oh that...
[07:10] <Determinist> i gotta admit, working with a 19" TFT monitor can really change your habbits. had a 15" TFT for 2 years since yesterday ... just a different ballgame.
[07:10] <adriyel__> problematic, I've already encountered, debugged, and solved this problem
[07:10] <JBE> I have  universe in my sources.lst
[07:10] <h08817> well i guess i gotta do a lovely reinstall of ubuntu just what i am looking forward too
[07:11] <problematic> i'm on a lower processor thingy
[07:11] <problematic> :">
[07:11] <namElEz> ubuntu wont finalize installation on 1st it cant read cd and throws me to aptitude
[07:11] <adriyel__> problematic, you need to move the libflash plugin in your firefox directory out of there, its not 64-bit clean
[07:11] <problematic> amd duron 900mhz
[07:11] <adriyel__> problematic, until you do, Firefox will crash everytime you run into flash
[07:11] <moomooboy> can someone explain to me.. why ubuntu is only 1 CD.. while other distros are like 3-4 CD's?
[07:11] <JBE> If I so a "sudo apt-get install sylpheed-claws=1.0.4-1 sylpheed-claws-i18n=1.0.4-1" it tells me that version 1.0.4-1 cannot be found.  Anyone know why?
[07:11] <adriyel__> problematic, I thought you said you had 64bit?
[07:11] <adriyel__> wtf?
[07:11] <monkey89> moomooboy, not a large install.  you're expected to get packages you like from the repositories
[07:11] <spekkie> there is a problem with the hoary-extras repos
[07:12] <spekkie> i was told earlier on
[07:12] <_frank_> moomooboy: you download the rest
[07:12] <monkey89> while things like fedora come with all the needed software on the CD
[07:12] <Determinist> moomooboy, better handling of packages, no unneeded devel packages. it's a user oriented linux distro
[07:12] <survivor> moomoo: Because ubuntu only comes with one app per task, not all of them.