[14:22] <ikonia> m_: that's most likley an intel card, which has good support out of the box, what issues are you seeing with it
[14:22] <ikonia> m_: could you pastebin the output of "lspci" please so we can see what video card your using if you're not sure
[14:22] <irv> what's a good utility for making a lot of copies of a cd
[14:23] <popey> irv: wodim
[14:23] <ikonia> irv: any of the CD burning tools will save the settings and you can just keep going
[14:23] <michaelfavia> ikonia, in what way? any discrete video card performs better with third party drivers like i said.
[14:23] <popey> michaelfavia: thats flat out not true for all video cards
[14:23] <topof> ikonia: how to open
[14:23] <ikonia> michaelfavia: he's using an intel card, there are no propriatary drivers,
[14:23] <ikonia> topof: do you know how to open a terminal
[14:23] <michaelfavia> ikonia, and its not a discrete gpu
[14:23] <Anarchy7> hey guys do you know a host system which can get my file with url upload and then I can get it back with wget?
[14:24] <ikonia> michaelfavia: discrete gpu ?
[14:24] <antonio_> why do you think that mysql installation stops at "Configuring mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.54-1ubuntu4)..."
[14:24] <m_> Ubuntu is my new way, and i don't know about pastebin and...other
[14:24] <ikonia> m_: that's fine
[14:24] <ikonia> !pastebin | michaelfavia
[14:24] <topof> did earlier forgot now
[14:24] <popey> michaelfavia: he has an 1001HA which has Intel video chip
[14:24] <ikonia> oops sorry michaelfavia
[14:24] <ikonia> !pastebin | m_
[14:24] <ikonia> m_: if you use that URL you can paste text in it, that you can share with the channel
[14:25] <michaelfavia> its an integrated gpu.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_processing_unit
[14:25] <michaelfavia> you know what ill let you guys handle it. good luck im going to work.
[14:25] <popey> michaelfavia: its an intel GPU which has no proprietary driver.
[14:25] <ikonia> michaelfavia: yes, so randomly suggesting "popriatary" drivers is flat out wrong.
[14:25] <topof> ikonia:amanda@amandas-netbook:~$ df -h Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1             7.0G  6.3G  310M  96% / none                  236M  648K  235M   1% /dev none                  243M  192K  242M   1% /dev/shm none                  243M  216K  242M   1% /var/run none                  243M     0  243M   0% /var/lock amanda@amandas-netbook:~$
[14:25] <ikonia> topof: please use a patebin as I asked
[14:26] <topof> sry dont know pastebin
[14:26] <ikonia> topof: from that, you have an OS drive of 6GB, and you are only using 310Meg
[14:26] <ikonia> topof: you have over 5GB of 6GB spare
[14:26] <ikonia> topof: pastebin.com
[14:26] <topof> keeps warning there is only 300mb left
[14:26] <ikonia> topof: where ?
[14:26] <topof> in a popup window
[14:27] <ikonia> topof: oh wait, maybe the formatting is off
[14:27] <ikonia> topof: could you please put that in a pastebin
[14:27] <auronandace> ikonia: doesn't it say the drive is 7gb and he is using 6.3gb?
[14:27] <topof> explain pastebin please
[14:27] <ikonia> auronandace: yes, I think the formatting is off
[14:27] <ikonia> topof: open that URL that I gave you and copy the text into it
[14:27] <auronandace> !paste | topof
[14:27] <bilygates> @ikonia topof i believe it says 310MB free, 6.3GB used
[14:28] <sc30317> hey all, I am trying to startup apache2,and it gives me the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/694488/
[14:28] <Pharmakon> Does any helpfulperson know how I can change my 'grid' in compiz to be 8 squares (4 on each screen) instead of 4 over two screens?
[14:28] <sc30317> anyone have any idea?
[14:28] <ikonia> bilygates: yes, I think the formatting was just out of line for me
[14:28] <ikonia> sc30317: it's already running
[14:28] <ikonia> sc30317: or some other webserver is running on port 80
[14:28] <bilygates> @sc30317 there's another process using that port, possibly another instance of apache
[14:29] <topof> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694491/
[14:29] <sc30317> bilygates, ikonia I don't think there is anything else running on that port
[14:29] <ikonia> sc30317: there is
[14:29] <ikonia> sc30317: see if it responds
[14:29] <ikonia> sc30317: telnet localhost 80
[14:29] <sc30317> sudo netstat -lnp | grep '<IP_ADDRESS>:80'
[14:29] <sc30317>  shows nothing
[14:29] <ikonia> topof: ok, so you are using 60
[14:29] <ikonia> sc30317: that's not how you use netstat
[14:29] <ikonia> topof: sorry 6GB
[14:30] <topof> thought it was a fresh i nstall
[14:30] <adi11> hello. anyone can help me with boot freezing on hp dv6700 with ubuntu 11.04. just after choosing ubuntu on grub page all i see is the purple screen. it hangs on there. thanks
[14:30] <bilygates> @sc30317 sudo netstat -lpn | grep :80
[14:30] <sc30317> ikonia, then why does it say  capgemini@Capgemini-HP:~$ service apache2 status
[14:30] <sc30317> Apache2 is NOT running.
[14:30] <llutz> sc30317: sudo lsof -i :80
[14:30] <macer1> join #meetingology
[14:30] <ikonia> sc30317: do the test I suggested
[14:30] <macer1> oops
[14:30] <sc30317> ikonia, got it
[14:30] <sc30317> aolserver?
[14:30] <ikonia> sc30317: there you go
[14:30] <ikonia> sc30317: that's what's running on port 80
[14:31] <macer1> my error trying to do /join :D
[14:31] <sc30317> ikonia, thanks!
[14:31] <sc30317> got it working
[14:31] <bilygates> no idea aol had an open source server o.0
[14:31] <ikonia> topof: I'd suggest looking in your home directory, and looking int he package manager to see what packages you have installed and removing any software you dont' want/need
[14:32] <adi11> help needed with ubuntu 11.04 on a hp dv6700 ... it freezes after the grub page..
[14:33] <adi11> thank u anyone
[14:33] <s093294>  /join #qt
[14:33] <bilygates> @topof i recommend you use baobab to see what's eating up space
[14:34] <m_>  1
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[14:34] <m_>  5
[14:34] <FloodBot1> m_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:34] <m_>  6
[14:34] <ikonia> m_: please don't flood the channel like that
[14:35] <zouky> O
[14:40] <lanlife> How to solve BT5R1 Chinese garbled text mode??????????
[14:44] <Fawzib> question: what packages i need in 11.10 other than unity-2d/lightdm/light-themes to have a minimal desktop
[14:44] <popey> Fawzib: thats a question for #ubuntu+1
[14:44] <Fawzib> ah ok
[14:44] <Pharmakon> Does anybody know how to set up Compiz so I can snap windows to the middle of the screen on a dual-screen layout?
[14:44] <popey> Pharmakon: that works for me by default
[14:44] <topof> ikonia done the baobab and home is 2 gig
[14:44] <Pharmakon> popey: not for me!
[14:45] <popey> Pharmakon: nvidia twinview?
[14:45] <Pharmakon> popey: I have Nvidia drivers installed
[14:45] <Pharmakon> popey: It might work without them installed, I don't know
[14:45] <Pharmakon> popey: Yes
[14:45] <popey> Pharmakon: yeah, worked or me on nvidia twinview, sorry
[14:46] <Pharmakon> popey: Are you running 11.04?
[14:46] <popey> Pharmakon: i was, yes
[14:46] <Pharmakon> popey: What version of the NVidia drivers?
[14:47] <popey> Pharmakon: no idea, i dont use it now, it was whatever was in 11.04
[14:47] <Pharmakon> popey: Ok
[14:47] <ikonia> topof: thats a lot of data in /home, what's in /home ?
[14:47] <Pharmakon> popey: that is weird
[14:47] <Pharmakon> popey: There must be something different
[14:48] <idefix> I'd just like to know.. whenever I use hotmail and PidgIn together the latter says it isn't possible, why is that?
[14:48] <bilygates> @pharmakon i have twinview too on 11.04 and snap is working between monitors :s
[14:48] <Delemas> Uhm this should be obvious but I can't seem to find it. Lucid Lynx is based on which Debian release?
[14:49] <Pharmakon> bilygates: snap is working, but what if you want to snap to the edge on the middle of the screen?
[14:49] <Pharmakon> bilygates: ***middle of the desktop*** i mean
[14:49] <bilygates> that seems to work too
[14:49] <jack_^> How is the 11.10 beta? im thinking about re-isntalling and throwing it on there and updating through RC to gold. thoughts?
[14:49] <popey> Pharmakon: oh hang on, against the right edge of the left screen and against the left edge of the right screen?
[14:50] <topof> thanks ikonia
[14:50] <popey> Pharmakon: because that's what works for me
[14:50] <bilygates> i think he means in the middle, between the two monitors
[14:50] <Pharmakon> popey: yes!
[14:50] <Pharmakon> popey: that is not working, I want to do that.
[14:50]  * popey shrugs
[14:50] <popey> sorry
[14:50] <Pharmakon> I want to snap against the right edge of the left screen and the left edge of the right screen.
[14:50] <bilygates> but are you sure it's working on the other margins?
[14:50] <Pharmakon> Like in **scoff*** windows 7
[14:51] <bilygates> maybe it's completely disabled?
[14:51] <ikonia> Pharmakon: I'm not sure that will work as twinview see it as one screen
[14:51] <Pharmakon> bilygates: It certainly is working on the right hand side of the right screen and the left hand side of the left screen.
[14:51] <Pharmakon> bilygates: takes some wrangling
[14:51] <ikonia> Pharmakon: xinerama is 2 screens merged, twinview is 1 screen
[14:51] <ikonia> Pharmakon: maybe one of the guys bilygates popey can confirm if that worked
[14:51] <bilygates> @ikonia it's working for me using twinview
[14:51] <Pharmakon> I press ctrl-alt-6(keypad) twice to get it on the right hand side of the right screen
[14:51] <bilygates> altought i'm using gnome classic, it that makes any difference
[14:52] <ikonia> bilygates: so you can snap to the inside edge of both monitors ?
[14:52] <popey> yup, working here too
[14:52] <bilygates> @ikonia yup, the windows get 'glued' to the middle of de desktop, between the two monitors
[14:52] <ikonia> bilygates: no, not between
[14:52] <ikonia> bilygates: the edge of either the left/right monitor, on the inside
[14:52] <Pharmakon> ikonia: xinerama?
[14:53] <ikonia> Pharmakon: don't worry about that, just see if bilygates and popey confirm it's working
[14:53] <Pharmakon> bilygates: I am using unity
[14:53] <popey> 15:52:04 < popey> yup, working here too
[14:53] <bilygates> @ikonia yes, that's what i meant, my english sucks :d
[14:53] <bilygates> maybe it's a unity-thing?
[14:53] <Pharmakon> bilygates: I think so
[14:53] <ikonia> popey: sorry missed that
[14:53] <ikonia> popey: plus there seemed to be some confusion as to the middle of the screen and the inside boarders of the two screens.
[14:53] <bilygates> popey, are you using unity or gnome-classic?
[14:53] <popey> it was under unity
[14:53] <popey> i am not right this moment
[14:54] <Pharmakon> Ok so in the compiz settings file there is way of changing some of the settings for the 'grid' which the windows snap to.
[14:54] <Pharmakon> but I don't see anyway of configuring edges.
[14:54] <Pharmakon> should I try this '
[14:54] <Pharmakon> '
[14:55] <Pharmakon> 'xinerama' thing?
[14:55] <ikonia> Pharmakon: no no
[14:55] <Pharmakon> ikonia: ok
[14:55] <dj_beirut> hi.. i am having problems with changing permissions to a folder with owner "nobody" and group "nogroup" i have root access.
[14:55] <ikonia> Pharmakon: I shouldn't have mentioned that, I didn't mean to add confusion to the mix
[14:55] <ikonia> dj_beirut: what's the issue ?
[14:55] <Pharmakon> ikonia: ok
[14:55] <Pharmakon> any ideas?
[14:56] <dj_beirut> ikonia i can't change the owner so i can move delete or edit it.
[14:56] <ikonia> Pharmakon: I don't have a box to test on at the moment, so will struggle to prgoress
[14:56] <ikonia> dj_beirut: what command are you using
[14:56] <dj_beirut> chown
[14:56] <dj_beirut> chown -R
[14:56] <ikonia> dj_beirut: please show me the exact command
[14:56] <bilygates> @pharmakon are you using wobbly windows?
[14:56] <ikonia> dj_beirut: please show me the exact command
[14:57] <Pharmakon> @bilygates Nope
[14:57] <dj_beirut> sudo chown -R myusername /media/test/TV/Suits/
[14:57] <Pharmakon> @bilygates you mean when I drag do they 'wobble'? then nope
[14:57] <ikonia> dj_beirut: and what is the error ?
[14:57] <abrie> !list
[14:57] <dj_beirut> Operation not permitted
[14:57] <ikonia> dj_beirut: what file system is on the disk /media/test/TV/Suits
[14:58] <bilygates> @pharmakon ok, that extension overrides snap, that's why i asked
[14:58] <dj_beirut> nfs i think.. it's a nas disk
[14:58] <Pharmakon> @bilygates do you know any other extensions that might overide snap that I can double check against?
[14:58] <ikonia> dj_beirut: worth checking as that maybe the issue,
[14:58] <Trashi> hi guys. i have a lenovo thinkpad sl510 with an integrated 7in1 cardreader. if i put in a sd or xd card nothing happens. could someone try to help please?
[14:58] <bilygates> @pharmakon nope, but if snapping windows is enabled in ccsm then it should work :s
[14:59] <dj_beirut> it is: /media/test type nfs
[14:59] <bilygates> @pharmakon you can't enable both snapping windows and wobbly windows afaik
[15:00] <ikonia> dj_beirut: so the permissions are controled from the server, and by the mount statement used to mount it
[15:00] <hypertyper> I'm writing a script and I need to detect whether a laptop is on battery or mains. How do I detect that? Thanks
[15:00] <Greyster> just a noob testing
[15:00] <Pharmakon> @bilygates Snapping  is enabled and wobbly windows is disabled
[15:00] <llutz> hypertyper: acpi -V    maybe
[15:01] <dj_beirut> ikonia: so what can i do about it? i don't have problems deleting or addind files to the rest of the files!
[15:01] <ikonia> llutz: that's an interesting method,
[15:01] <idefix> my housemate is dutch and doesn't like to be called 'dude', what do I call him?
[15:01] <ikonia> idefix: that's nothing to do with ubuntu - which is what this channel is about
[15:01] <idefix> sorry wrong channel
[15:01] <llutz> ikonia: not elegant, but...
[15:01] <bilygates> @hypertyper this might help you http://www.basicallytech.com/blog/index.php?/archives/110-Colour-coded-battery-charge-level-and-status-in-your-bash-prompt.html
[15:01] <ikonia> dj_beirut: rest of the files ?
[15:01] <ikonia> llutz: very intersting
[15:02] <MMlosh> Hi!  Is it normal&tolerated for QTopia to create  /.config directory  (in the root dir!) and hide stuff there?
[15:02] <hypertyper> thanks, I'm off to investigate
[15:02] <dj_beirut> ikonia the other files and directories in the /media/test
[15:02] <ikonia> dj_beirut: can you show me the output of "ls -la /media/test" please.
[15:03] <ikonia> dj_beirut: (use a pastebin please)
[15:03] <i-was-fedora>  hi , i have a problem dealing with some of my (iso) file types over my (hard disk) ... i don't know what happened , but now they are read as (data) by the file utility ....not able to mount them or extract files from them .. any suggestions ??
[15:03] <dj_beirut> ikonia http://pastebin.com/4eC3DyTZ
[15:04] <llutz> hypertyper: grep charging /proc/acpi/battery/BAT?/state
[15:05] <ikonia> dj_beirut: so if you do this exact command "sudo chown dj_beirut:dj_beirut /media/test/Music"
[15:05] <ikonia> dj_beirut: what do you get from that exact command
[15:06] <dj_beirut> ikonia i get the same damn thing! :/
[15:06] <ikonia> dj_beirut: what about "sudo touch /media/test/test_file"
[15:07] <dj_beirut> no error
[15:07] <dj_beirut> i got a file called test_file
[15:07] <hypertyper> bilygates and llutz, thanks for your help, I should have something to work with now
[15:07] <ikonia> dj_beirut: can you show me the output of ls -la /media/test/test_file
[15:08] <dj_beirut> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 0 2011-09-21 17:07 /media/test/test_file
[15:08] <ikonia> dj_beirut: ok, the fact that the file is owned by the same user when you made it as root, suggests the server (nfs server) is locking the ownership, which is possible with NFS
[15:08] <ikonia> dj_beirut: the owner needs to be set either a.) on the server b.) the mount options, if your setup permits it
[15:09] <dj_beirut> ikonia you mean in fstab where i am mounting this?
[15:09] <ikonia> dj_beirut: it's more likley it's locked on the server
[15:09] <ikonia> dj_beirut: it's doubtful that will work, but possible
[15:09] <dj_beirut> i have access to that too..'
[15:12] <club_> hi everybody
[15:14] <dj_beirut> ikonia now i added the desktop i am using as a root priviliged host to the nfs settings on the server
[15:16] <acalvo> o
[15:20] <drgeb> I am getting this error while running any idea what it means ? "symbol lookup error: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii"
[15:23] <MMlosh> Oh forget about my  extraneous  (Root dir!) /.config/Trolltech.conf .. it is probably a bug in kubuntu instalator I used
[15:24] <pythonsnake> What is the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade ?
[15:25] <irv> brasero doesn't seem to be burning multiple copies of my iso. it's failing to eject the cd, then the burn another copy window just sits there. although the blank cd is showing up in OS
[15:26] <tsousa> i have an installation of ubuntu 11.04. i installed the latests upgrades but know 5 in 5 minutos my wireless goes down
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> pythonsnake: upgrade is al your software, dist-upgrade is your os
[15:26] <tsousa> what seems to be the problem?
[15:26] <pythonsnake> MonkeyDust: if I dist-upgrade my Lucid, it'll become 11.04 ?
[15:26] <Flannel> pythonsnake: upgrade makes all the packages you currently have move to the latest version if possible.  dist-upgrade makes all the packages move to the latest version, even if that means installing new packages.
[15:27] <ApolloSmile> hello
[15:27] <pythonsnake> ah ok
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> pythonsnake: after L comes M, Maverick, 11.04 is N, Natty
[15:27] <pythonsnake> thanks
[15:28] <pythonsnake> and O, Oneiric
[15:28] <pythonsnake> :)
[15:28] <pythonsnake> The following packages have been kept back:
[15:28] <pythonsnake> oops
[15:29] <ApolloSmile> I am 100% new to ubuntu just installed it i needed to know how to tell ubunto to read my ntfs partitions however this harddrive has 2 seperate partitions and it reads the second one witch is ntfs but the main one with my files dont show how to i make it show the other partition on ubunto please be specific as posible as this is new to me
[15:29] <pythonsnake> I have added docky dev ppa but it won't upgrade: The following packages have been kept back: Docky
[15:29] <pythonsnake> What's wrong ?
[15:29] <Oneiros> xoda exla ra vqnat unda viswavlo me wavedi :D
[15:29] <MMlosh> Hi! Do you know where is the __K__Ubuntu bugtracker.. if that thing exists at all?
[15:30] <Polah> Does install Ubuntu to a USB drive work the same as installing to an internal drive?
[15:31] <Lithos84> !ntfs | ApolloSmile
[15:31] <ikonia> Polah: it does, but the boot loader is a tricky thing to manage in that situation
[15:31] <Polah> ikonia: How so?
[15:31] <ikonia> Polah: well, where are you going to put the boot loader ?
[15:32] <Polah> ikonia: On the USB drive
[15:32] <ApolloSmile> reDING IT
[15:32] <ApolloSmile> thanks
[15:32] <compdoc> a usb memory stick, or ausb external hard drive?
[15:32] <ikonia> Polah: ok, so that means each time you want to use it you'll have to override your motherboard and tell it to boot from the USB drive, is that possible on your machine ?
[15:33] <Polah> ikonia: Well, USB is set to be selected for boot first. I can also choose which device to boot from temporarily as well
[15:33] <ikonia> Polah: that should be easier to manage
[15:34] <Polah> ikonia: So in that case can I just configure GRUB as I would normally?
[15:34] <ikonia> Polah: as long as it's on the usb boot loader, and your OS is self contained on the boot loader
[15:35] <ikonia> Polah: sorry, I phrased that bad, as long as the boot loader is onthe USB drive and the OS is self contained fully on the USB, that should be managable
[15:35] <kasi> how can I mount a .cdr file in ubuntu?
[15:35] <Polah> ikonia: Ah good. Also, would it be possible for me to tell GRUB to boot from an ISO on my system arbitrarily, to install on this USB drive, without have to edit my grub config file?
[15:35] <Maniakes> has anyone used samba with encrypted partitions?
[15:36] <CosmicVoyager> Hey. How do you cd to highest directory in terminal?
[15:36] <KirinDave> CosmicVoyager, cd /
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> CosmicVoyager: cd /
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> KirinDave was faster :)
[15:36] <KirinDave> CosmicVoyager, But you prooooobably want cd ~
[15:36] <CosmicVoyager> thanks i was hitting cd.. a zillion times
[15:36] <KirinDave> Also do consider pushd and popd
[15:36] <Maniakes> Kasi..  have you explored the mount command?
[15:37] <lukasz_> hello
[15:38] <ApolloSmile> so i need fuse now were to get fuse hehehe
[15:39] <kasi> Maniakes, I'll have to, I hoped that there would be a gui
[15:39] <Maniakes> have you tried just double clicking on the file?
[15:40] <ApolloSmile> unbunto software center shows to many fuse apps
[15:40] <ApolloSmile> idk witch one right one
[15:40] <Meluha> Hello ppl. i cant find the ubuntu unity plugin in ccsm. am using natty
[15:40] <Meluha> any clue?
[15:41] <Meluha> it isnt present in the desktop tab
[15:41] <pythonsnake> insyall it properly
[15:41] <ikonia> pythonsnake: how do you know it's not installed correctly ?
[15:42] <pythonsnake> because it's not present in ccsm
[15:42] <ikonia> does that mean for certain it's not installed correctly ?
[15:42] <Meluha> install what ccsm again?
[15:42] <Lithos84> ApolloSmile: In a terminal, type (without quotes) "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[15:42] <ApolloSmile> ty
[15:44] <pythonsnake> ikonia: maybe you can give another suggestion ?
[15:44] <pythonsnake> i don't know
[15:44] <ikonia> pythonsnake: I would have liked a little more information before offering random advice,
[15:44] <ApolloSmile> this did not work in terminal sudp apt-get install ntfs-3g
[15:44] <ApolloSmile> opp
[15:44] <ApolloSmile> wrong letter
[15:44] <ikonia> pythonsnake: I'll let you progress it through
[15:44] <pythonsnake> ikonia: why..
[15:44] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you offered the advice, so see it through
[15:45] <pythonsnake> ..
[15:46] <pythonsnake> Meluha: how did you install the plugin
[15:46] <Maniakes> like the nick, IamTrying
[15:46] <ApolloSmile> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[15:46] <ApolloSmile> mount: only root can mount /dev/sda2 on /media/sda2
[15:46] <Meluha> @ pythonsnake... i havent
[15:46] <Guest79410> hi! if i want to make sure PATH and JAVA_HOME is correct, is it correct to just enter code into ~/.bash_profile ?
[15:46] <IamTrying> Maniakes, universal true :)
[15:46] <Meluha> im not able to find info
[15:47] <Guest79410> i guess something is wrong since the path is not updated as I log in
[15:47] <Guest79410> im using export PATH=.... and similarly for JAVA_HOME
[15:47] <dnivra> Guest79410: ~/.bashrc
[15:47] <Guest79410> dnivra, oh, so .bash_profile is not executed?
[15:47] <Lithos84> ApolloSmile: type "sudo" before "mount".
[15:47] <Guest79410> upon login...
[15:47] <Pharmakon> Does anybody know how I can get compiz to recognize that I have two screens. currently pop-up error messages are split between screens.
[15:48] <pythonsnake> Meluha: reinstall Unity
[15:48] <dnivra> Guest79410: i don't think there is a file called ~/.bash_profile. least I don't have it. anyway ~/.bashrc is the file you want :).
[15:48] <Anarchy7> I have a server and an FTP server, how can I transfer a file from my server to my ftp server?
[15:48] <Guest79410> ok thanks! ill try it
[15:48] <ikonia> pythonsnake: whoaaa
[15:48] <ikonia> re-install Unity as a compiz plugin is not installed ?
[15:48] <i-was-fedora> dnivra: u mean ~/.profile ??
[15:49] <Meluha> exaclt how do i reinstall unity?
[15:49] <ApolloSmile> i was trying to use the storage device maniger
[15:49] <Guest79410> btw, does it matter where in the file i type in the code?
[15:49] <pythonsnake> ikonia: yeah, maybe it's that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1636558
[15:49] <idefix> I was just going to say that I wasn't supposed to say that then they kicked me from offtopic
[15:49] <Meluha> i just reinstalled unity-2d
[15:49] <Meluha> but it didnt work
[15:49] <ApolloSmile> i messed up something on it and now the one that it did see is unmounted
[15:49] <ApolloSmile> lol
[15:49] <kasi> I can mount the cdr file with the loop mount, however, I would have to specify a mount directory. Is there a more convenient way to mount a file under /media?
[15:49] <ikonia> pythonsnake: even if it was, there is no need to re-install all of unity
[15:50] <GreekFreak> Hello. I have purchased a laptop with the Radeon HD 6470M graphics card that is not supported. If I install the proprietry drivers, some programs don't work.  Any suggestions?
[15:50] <pythonsnake> ikonia: what do you suggests? ...
[15:51] <ikonia> GreekFreak: the cards that aren't supported rarley work
[15:51] <pythonsnake> suggest*
[15:51] <dnivra> i-was-fedora: no. that file isn't read if .bashrc exists
[15:51] <ikonia> pythonsnake: either a.) installing the plugin b.) re-installing the package that contains the plugin
[15:51] <dnivra> oh no I mean ~/.bash_profile.
[15:51] <pythonsnake> what is the package ?
[15:51] <GreekFreak> ikonia: I'm new to Linux, but I was under the impression that something would exist somewhere. I can't exactly return the laptop.
[15:51] <dnivra> like I said i-was-fedora ~/.bashrc does what Guest79410. I've done it anyway so am quite sure it works.
[15:52] <ikonia> GreekFreak: if the cards not supported, then no, $something won't exist
[15:52] <idefix> how do you talk to someone who's not in this channel?
[15:52] <ikonia> GreekFreak: the ATI cards are quite specifc in their support
[15:52] <ApolloSmile> hehe maby i should use ubunto on my server machine instead
[15:52] <i-was-fedora> dnivra: i don't remeber , but that's not 100% right ... bashrc related to (tty emulator)  .. pts , and profile realted to (tty) themself ..  something like that ;)
[15:52] <ApolloSmile> i installed the ati driver and it now isent as smooth desktop as it was
[15:53] <ApolloSmile> i have an ati 5670
[15:53] <GreekFreak> ikonia: is there somewhere I can find out when they will support it?
[15:53] <pythonsnake> idefix: /query foobar
[15:53] <ikonia> GreekFreak: you can contact ATI ?
[15:53] <GreekFreak> ikonia: lol
[15:54] <ikonia> GreekFreak: that was a serious suggestion
[15:54] <pythonsnake> lol
[15:54] <dnivra> i-was-fedora: i am not too sure about profile :). i know bashrc does work just like you said: tty and pts.
[15:54] <GreekFreak> ikonia: I'll have to wait for the States to wake up then
[15:54] <ikonia> GreekFreak: probably yes, but sending the email asap is worth while as it will take a few days at least to get a response, if you do get any
[15:55] <GreekFreak> ikonia: thank you
[15:55] <jacob__> hi again, does anyone know how to update java (JDK) version? i have the 1.7 binaries at /usr/local/java , but 'which java' results in /usr/bin/java
[15:56] <jacob__> if i want to fix this do i have to do something more than just updating PATH and JAVA_HOME?
[15:56] <ikonia> jacob__: either update your path or look at /etc/alternatives
[15:57] <ApolloSmile> will this work in ubuntu AMD Catalyst™ 11.8 Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver
[15:58] <ApolloSmile> the linux driver
[15:58] <jacob__> ikonia, i guess the problem is that i cant remove /usr/bin from my path, and that takes precedence over the correct path
[15:58] <antonio_> does somebody knows a chan where people can help with php issues?
[15:58] <pythonsnake> antonio_: #php
[15:58] <ApolloSmile> #php
[15:58] <ApolloSmile> lololol
[15:58] <ikonia> jacob__: you don't remove /usr/bin from your path, you change the order and put /usr/local/bin first
[15:58] <ikonia> it's ##php
[15:58] <ikonia> not #php
[15:58] <jacob__> oh, duh, thx :)
[15:58] <antonio_> pythonsnake, it says that requires an invitation
[15:59] <pythonsnake> antonio_: ##php
[15:59] <ikonia> antonio_: the channel is ##php, not #php
[15:59] <antonio_> ok, now it says "##php :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
[15:59] <antonio_> i need to register into freenode?
[15:59] <pythonsnake> antonio_: /msg nickserv register mypass
[15:59] <antonio_> ok
[15:59] <pythonsnake> antonio_: /msg nickserv identify mypass
[16:00] <oizo> Question: I've got a new laptop, but some special keys aren't working (vol. up/down, play-pause and stop) how can i get these to work or assign them to something (system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts doesnt work)
[16:00] <pythonsnake> doesn't #php redirect to ##php ?
[16:00] <ikonia> !register | antonio_
[16:00] <pythonsnake> oizo: maybe acpi
[16:00] <jacob__> is there a way to execute .bashrc without logging out?
[16:00] <pythonsnake> yes
[16:00] <pythonsnake> source .bashrc
[16:00] <sauerbraten> what's the best place to go when you have a non-working card driver, but know which driver is used on windows? I'm talking about http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/us/en/DriversDownloads/drivers_show_4322.html
[16:00] <ikonia> jacob__:  .bashrc thats it
[16:00] <pythonsnake> !acpi | oizo
[16:00] <ikonia> jacob__: you execute it, it's just a script
[16:00] <oizo> pythonsnake: acpi how?
[16:01] <pythonsnake> ikonia: no, it's source .bashrc
[16:01] <jokinfeyman> thanks, it works :)
[16:01] <pythonsnake> I'm wrong ?
[16:01] <sauerbraten> oh. *card reader I mean
[16:01] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you can do .bashrc or . .bashrc it's the same thing
[16:01] <sauerbraten> what's the best place to go when you have a non-working card reader but know which driver is used on windows? I'm talking about http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/us/en/DriversDownloads/drivers_show_4322.html
[16:02] <ikonia> sauerbraten: there is no where to go, other than the vendor to ask them to make a compatible kernel module
[16:02] <jacob__> .bashrc results in "command not found"
[16:02] <pythonsnake> ikonia: "source ~/.bashrc"
[16:02] <pythonsnake> jacob__: "source ~/.bashrc
[16:02] <jacob__> ./.bashrc results in "Permission denied"
[16:02] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you've said that 3 times, and I understand what your saying
[16:02] <sysadamin> jacob__: ". .bashrc"
[16:02] <pythonsnake> jacob__: "source ~/.bashrc"
[16:02] <jacob__> pythonsnake, thx, *trying
[16:02] <ikonia> jacob__: . .bashrc
[16:02] <inphernal> Hi all, having some video troubles. I boot into 11.04 and am stuck in 1024x768 resolution, and the failsafeX UI. Monitor settings say "Monitor: Unknown", and I cannot set anything. The laptop used to work fine. It has a Intel Mobile 4 chipset.
[16:03] <jacob__> ikonia, pythonsnake , thx, both worked
[16:03] <pythonsnake> jacob__: you're welcome
[16:03] <ork0> "Permission denied (13)" when I transfer files over bluetooth to my android phone. What do I do?
[16:03] <jacob__> yeah, i have jdk 1.7 :)
[16:04] <jacob__> i never got these paths working before, thx a lot, cya!
[16:04] <pythonsnake> oizo: The Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[16:05] <inphernal> Hi all, having some video troubles. I boot into 11.04 and am stuck in 1024x768 resolution, and the failsafeX UI. Monitor settings say "Monitor: Unknown", and I cannot set anything. The laptop used to work fine. It has a Intel Mobile 4 chipset.
[16:05] <pythonsnake> inphernal: stop flooding
[16:05] <pythonsnake> one time is enough
[16:06] <oizo> pythonsnake: i'lll have a look at that and get back, thanks
[16:07] <pythonsnake> oizo: np
[16:07] <SpiderFred> hi how do you call that network authenctication where you can connect to wifi but than can connect to only one site where you login and can use internet?
[16:08] <HoNgOuRu> How do I create a launcher with this command ??? "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype"
[16:08] <HoNgOuRu> without quotes at the terminal
[16:09] <prasenjeetp> not sure if this is the right place to ask ... any pointers about the choice between ubuntu and mint ?
[16:09] <HoNgOuRu> How do I create a launcher with this command ??? "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype"  without quotes
[16:09] <prasenjeetp> as a desktop for programmers
[16:09] <HoNgOuRu> what to put in the command?
[16:09] <macer1> prasenjeetp, do you like unity?
[16:09] <HoNgOuRu> I do
[16:09] <HoNgOuRu> a lot, but it needs fixes
[16:10] <prasenjeetp> macer1: am afraid i have no idea what unity is
[16:10] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: arch
[16:10]  * prasenjeetp goes looking
[16:10] <ork0> "Permission denied (13)" when I transfer files over bluetooth to my android phone. What do I do?
[16:10] <HoNgOuRu> How do I create a launcher with this command ??? "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype"  without quotes
[16:10] <pythonsnake> HoNgOuRu: stop.
[16:10] <Pici> HoNgOuRu: Please stop repeating so often.
[16:10] <ikonia> pythonsnake: please don't offer random nonsense advice
[16:10] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[16:10] <macer1> prasenjeetp: OK this is new interface of future releases of ubuntu. Mint comes with classic gnome2 desktop, and codec pack(which you can install from ubuntu repos)
[16:11] <pythonsnake> ikonia: ?
[16:11] <macer1> Mint is based on Ubuntu AFAIK
[16:11] <ikonia> pythonsnake: suggesting arch
[16:11] <bilygates> mint also has a new version which is based on debian
[16:11] <pythonsnake> why not arch ?
[16:11] <Pici> HoNgOuRu: Launchers cannot take commands with arguments, so just put your entire command into a script and you can run that script using the launchaer.
[16:11] <inphernal> Hi all, having some video troubles. I boot into 11.04 and am stuck in 1024x768 resolution, and the failsafeX UI. Monitor settings say "Monitor: Unknown", and I cannot set anything. The laptop used to work fine. It has a Intel Mobile 4 chipset.
[16:11] <ikonia> pythonsnake: that wasn't his question, please don't randomly push that to people
[16:11] <HoNgOuRu> Pici, I want to assign a key to run that command
[16:11] <HoNgOuRu> oh !
[16:12] <HoNgOuRu> I can do the script thing, yeah, thank u
[16:12] <pythonsnake> ikonia: ok
[16:12] <Pici> HoNgOuRu: Okay, so put that command into a file, set it as executable, and assign your key to run the script :)
[16:12] <bilygates> @prasenjeetp i'm a programmer and ubuntu suits me nicely, but i'm pretty sure mint would do too
[16:12] <HoNgOuRu> Pici, yeah thanks
[16:12] <prasenjeetp> macer1:  yes, mint is based on ubuntu too ... we have been using mint for over a year now but considering between ubuntu and mint now that we are planning to do fresh installs/upgrades
[16:13] <macer1> prasenjeetp, if you don't hate unity, I think it is better to install Ubuntu ;)
[16:13] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: Maybe Ubuntu Lucid ?
[16:13] <prasenjeetp> macer1:  hmm, let me understand the statement :-)
[16:14] <pythonsnake> macer1: ubuntu != unity
[16:14] <bilygates> you can always dump unity and install gnome3
[16:14] <bilygates> or maybe gnome2 if anyone ports it
[16:15] <pythonsnake> bilygates: or use lucid
[16:15] <bilygates> yeah, if you don't care for updates, use lucid by all means
[16:16] <ikonia> bilygates: luicd will get more updates than any other current ubuntu distro
[16:16] <pythonsnake> ikonia: "will" ?
[16:16] <ikonia> pythonsnake: yes,
[16:17] <pythonsnake> when exctly ?
[16:17] <ikonia> pythonsnake: as updates are needed
[16:17] <bilygates> well yes, it's LTS, but aren't the majority of updates only bugfixes?
[16:17] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: pythonsnake bilygates : where do i get to see more about these variations
[16:18] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: ubuntu.com
[16:18] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: linuxmint.com
[16:18] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: am on the site and still looking for all these unity ... lucid etc (found unity already)
[16:19] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: unity is a desktop, not a release.
[16:19] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: the ones on the website will be 10.04 and 11.04
[16:19] <Ograws> hello
[16:20] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: yeah, i think i have installed unity on ubuntu (is that the right way to say it) on some PCs
[16:20] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: unity is available by default in 11.04
[16:20] <prasenjeetp> wonder what other choices exist and where i can find them (and some comparision)
[16:20] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: it is part of the 11.04 "natty" release.
[16:20] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: yeah, that explains how i got it :-)
[16:21] <Ograws> I need help with wireless adapter usb on ubuntu 10.10
[16:21] <ApolloSmile> Will ubunto boot on another machine without issues? like drive swap
[16:22] <ikonia> ApolloSmile: depends on the hardware, mostly yes
[16:22] <ApolloSmile> ok
[16:22] <ApolloSmile> the hardware im sure is supported
[16:22] <ikonia> ApolloSmile: not quite that simple
[16:22] <ikonia> ApolloSmile: but it should mostly work and just need a few tweaks
[16:22] <ApolloSmile> probably best i do a reinstall on the machine
[16:23] <mneptok> ApolloSmile: a machine with BIOS versus a machine with EFI/UEFI will cause issues, for sure.
[16:23] <ApolloSmile> unless
[16:23] <ApolloSmile> someone can remote support me
[16:23] <ApolloSmile> in mounting my other drives and getting proper drivers
[16:23] <ikonia> ApolloSmile: you shouldn't need "drivers" unless your video card is significantly different or you have a closed source product in the new machine
[16:23] <ApolloSmile> my desktop used to run smoothly
[16:23] <dr_willis> ApolloSmile:  ive swapped hd's befor with very few issues.
[16:24] <ApolloSmile> now when i install the ati driver it slow
[16:24] <Maarten> note to self: do not put a mount --bind to some folder in /etcfstab without actually mounting the drive it needs first, or your headless server will get stuck on startup waiting to mount something.... :D
[16:25] <prasenjeetp> ok, next would be to try and find out whats the best way to install ubuntu on 60 computers, they have no DVD drives and i would prefer to install them all IDENTICAL with a few other stuff (webmin, LAMP etc)
[16:25] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: you know webmin is not supported or recommended on ubuntu yes ?
[16:26] <ApolloSmile> 60 computers omg
[16:26] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: no, i wasnt aware :-(
[16:26] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: I would look at either kickstart for a re-occuring build with changes, or an image based software such as clonezilla to just keep cloning the drives
[16:27] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: why isnt webmin supported ? any article to read ?
[16:27] <SpiderFred> hi how do you call that network authenctication where you can connect to wifi but than can connect to only one site where you login and can use internet?
[16:27] <dr_willis> !webmin | prasenjeetp
[16:27] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: it's a project filled with security issues, and the way ubuntu lays out certain config files is incompatible
[16:27] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: also, Webmin is a security nightmare.
[16:27] <prasenjeetp> ApolloSmile: yeah, we want to standardize things
[16:28] <ikonia> SpiderFred: 2 factor ?
[16:28] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: so, any other suggestions ... want people to be able to do stuff like create virtual domains, databases etc
[16:28] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: is these for peoples desktops, or for something like a web hosting business ?
[16:28] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: I'm asking as the purpose will define the tools
[16:28] <prasenjeetp> mneptok: this is within the office LAN ... does the security become a concern there too
[16:29] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: yes
[16:29] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: even more so. as someone with malicious intent already has some degree of access.
[16:29] <SpiderFred> ikonia: no I mean just one authentication through webclient to use internet
[16:29] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: its for individual desktops for programmers but they each use their computers as development servers
[16:29] <ApolloSmile> hahah ubuntu is using the easy window snap as windows 7 wonders
[16:29] <ApolloSmile> lol
[16:29] <renc> renc
[16:29] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: then they should be using tools such as mysql's database tools
[16:30] <param> hi
[16:30] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: or depending on their systems administrators to manage things like the configs
[16:30] <param> i need help[
[16:30] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: developers do not need webmin, they need sudo. and build the tools and data needed into your kickstart image (i.e. pre-add the local user accounts to the "mysql" group)
[16:30] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: sadly, most do not have any insight .. they come from windows background ... i am fighting it hard to get them all to linux
[16:31] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: the mysql tools are gui driven, so should be quite normal to them
[16:31] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: Webmin will cause you and your users headaches within a few months. if not weeks.
[16:31] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: mysql on windows is the same tools/config as mysql on linux
[16:31] <mneptok> ikonia: some are, like Workbench.
[16:31] <prasenjeetp> ok
[16:31] <ikonia> mneptok: which is the tools I suggested
[16:32] <Maarten> prasenjeetp: not to be the devil's advocate here..... but would it not be easier to keep them on Windows if they can be productive there? I know we sysadmins always want to convert people, but it isn't always in the best interest of busines.
[16:32] <prasenjeetp> any input on apache management
[16:32] <prasenjeetp> like creating virtual hosts etc
[16:32] <SavageWolf> Uh, how would I reinstall a package so it is purged and redownloaded without removing any of it's dependencies?
[16:32] <ikonia> Maarten: it's a valid point.
[16:33] <prasenjeetp> Maarten: the license costs for each desktop is huge ... we are finding it hard to handle ... also, once its streamlined, i think people get used to linux too
[16:33] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: if a DBA cares about what OS they use, they're not a very good DBA. ;) SQL syntax is SQL syntax, and any text editor can write it. it's the distance between the power-on button and getting to that comfy editor that you need to worry about.
[16:34] <SchalaZeal> I'm rather curious how my DHCP internet works automatically in Ubuntu yet when I tried Gentoo or Arch Linux it didn't.
[16:34] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: one option is to setup 4 virtual domains as part of the build you deploy and limt them to that
[16:34] <SchalaZeal> Ubuntu has no /etc/rc.conf after all
[16:34] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: I assume you mean apache domains
[16:34] <prasenjeetp> mneptok: true ... but there is always a mental block that i have to handle delicately
[16:34] <ikonia> SchalaZeal: it's controlled by gnome in network manager on the desktop
[16:34] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: thats right, apache virtualhosts
[16:34] <SchalaZeal> ah
[16:34] <SchalaZeal> thanks
[16:34] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: setup 4 as part of the default build
[16:35] <prasenjeetp> ok
[16:35] <Maarten> yeah there is the license cost, true..... but that amounts to about 3 hours of a web developer's salary, perhaps once a year if you have a MS subscription..... Just saying, as much as I love linux, (I have mixed environment here as well), it isn't always the best solution if you have a large group of windows-minded people.
[16:35] <mang0> In AWN is there a way to magnify on hover, like on mac osx dock? I've only managed to get a really really small magnification, and only the icon I'm mousing over....
[16:36] <pythonsnake> mang0: no
[16:36] <tado> hey. does someone want to save my ipod classic from flying out the window? it has given me endless trouble with ubuntu, and now doesn't mount any longer...
[16:36] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: or, identify the most Windows-entrenched staff, and get them VMs in Virtualbox under Ubuntu. let them transition gradually.
[16:37] <prasenjeetp> mneptok: Maarten they have got used to linux now ... we have been using mint for over one year now
[16:37] <prasenjeetp> just that we always had webmin (on mint)
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> mang0: docky does afaik, and cairodock may too
[16:37] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: just try it !
[16:37] <synackfin> how do I remove all the desktop packages to get to a minimal "ubuntu server" state? (ubuntu desktop currently installed)
[16:37] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: if your comfortable with it, use it, just be aware of the issues and risks it causes
[16:37] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: true
[16:37] <Maarten> hmmm... now I have this thin client, and I am re-purposing it as a small linux server, was thinking of putting a webcam on it and using it as a poor man's security system.... any software recommendations?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> synackfin: uninstall xorg and the rest will be marked for removal
[16:38] <llutz> synackfin: easier to start from 0 with minimal.iso
[16:38] <Maarten> prasenjeetp: Ah, if they are already used to linux,no prob :)
[16:38] <mneptok> Maarten: PM?
[16:38] <mang0> ActionParsnip: cairodock does do it, but It's quite cpu intense (for my machine!) Will try docky. Thanks :D
[16:38] <prasenjeetp> pythonsnake: try what ?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> mang0: also simdock does it too (super lightweight)
[16:38] <synackfin> ActionParnsip: `apt-get purge xorg` only removes two packages: xorg and ubuntu-desktop
[16:38] <mang0> ActionParsnip: simdock sounds good, will look into it.
[16:39] <Maarten> mneptok: Googling "PM" but not getting a clear answer. Is that a abbreviation for something?
[16:39] <synackfin> ActionParsnip: I want to remove -everything- non-server related, gnome, wifi tools, etc
[16:39] <mneptok> Maarten: "may i private message?"
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> synackfin: sudo apt-get --purge remove xorg libgn*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[16:39] <Maarten> mneptok: hahaha! of course ;)
[16:40] <Maarten> sorry not awake yet, I thought you meant a software package
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> synackfin: also uninstall xserver-xorg and xserver-common
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> synackfin: I'd suggest you do this in root recovery mode so you don'tget any weirdness uninstalling an app which is running
[16:42] <hypertyper> I'm trying to incorporate a script and get an error message. I'm trying to extract a string and compare it to another. pastebin.com/AS6xwrWT
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> hypertyper: wouldn't it be:  BATTERY=`cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1`
[16:44] <llutz> hypertyper: BATSTATE=$( awk '/charging state/{ print $3 }')
[16:44]  * prasenjeetp busy trying to make sense of clonezilla mentioned by ikonia
[16:44] <hypertyper> no, that bit is working, the path is corredct
[16:45] <llutz> hypertyper: BATSTATE=$( awk '/charging state/{ print $3 }') $BATTERY/state
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> hypertyper: your if statement is a bit off too. Change it to:              if ["$BATSTATE" = "discharging"]; then
[16:45] <madalin> i have a vlan (eth1.10) which is linked to eth1. I'm trying to deny outgoing traffic. How could i do that ?
[16:46] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: ...
[16:46] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: try the distros
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> http://pastebin.com/TavjNxRP  hypertyper
[16:47] <prasenjeetp> pythonsnake: what about them ... sorry, am not sure i understood
[16:48] <madalin> i have a vlan (eth1.10) which is linked to eth1. I'm trying to deny outgoing traffic. How could i do that ?
[16:48] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: try them one by one and see what you like !!
[16:49] <prasenjeetp> pythonsnake: i understand now ... frankly, since we need to have something uniform for all, am just trying to get some input from you guys that are in the know already
[16:49] <mang0> How do I quit awn dock?
[16:49] <mang0> got it
[16:50] <oizo> Question: I've got a new laptop, but some special keys aren't working (vol. up/down, play-pause and stop) tried "xev" but there is no reaction to pressing the buttons ... help?
[16:50] <pythonsnake> mang0: try docky
[16:50] <antnash> HEy guys. Can anyone tell me how I can get my new wireless mini keyboard/touchpad to work? It's an Ortek PKB-1700, being mistaken for a WKB-2000
[16:50] <pythonsnake> gnome-do
[16:50] <haus1> I had an issue with Brasero not seeing my DVD/CD drives to burn a disk?   I found & installed GnomeBaker it's working perfectly, anyone ever see this ?
[16:50] <pythonsnake> oizo: ...
[16:50] <mang0> pythonsnake: I will :)
[16:50] <pythonsnake> oizo: ACPI.
[16:50] <pythonsnake> have you looked on it ?
[16:50] <pythonsnake> mang0: killall avant-window-navigator
[16:50] <llutz> hypertyper: better to use $() than backticks, and grep isn't needed if using awk:   BATSTATE=$( awk '/charging state/ { print $3 }' $BATTERY/state)
[16:51] <mang0> pythonsnake: Yeah, found the quit button though :)
[16:51] <oizo> pythonsnake: Yeah, i looked at it, but couldn't figure out what actually to do.
[16:51] <urlin2u> haus1, yes brasero should see them if you open it rather then use the prompt to burn.
[16:51] <mang0> ew simdock is horrible
[16:52] <haus1> I did that, but "baker" seemed to work fine ...
[16:53] <pythonsnake> mang0: true
[16:53] <urlin2u> haus1, I use ether for that reason, you can also go to the plugins in brasero and turn off the md5sum make
[16:53] <Zerpy> Hey guys, I don't know if this is the right channel, but I'm sitting here with ubuntu, running apache2, and want to setup ftp, so I can connect to the server, any got a tip?
[16:53] <urlin2u> either
[16:54] <hypertyper> llutz, I've tried what you posted and it just sat there and did nothing
[16:54] <designbybeck> anyone know what the setting is in Compiz to "Shade" a window... like ctrl + scroll wheel to roll up and down on the title bar?
[16:54] <hypertyper> I've new to linux so have never used awk or grep
[16:54] <llutz> hypertyper: 3rd version should do, 1st/2nd had errors, sry
[16:54] <madalin> i have a vlan (eth1.10) which is linked to eth1. I'm trying to deny outgoing traffic. How could i do that ?
[16:54] <hypertyper> kk I'll try again
[16:55] <Tracker2> join #ubuntu-es
[16:55] <Tracker2> join # ubuntu-es
[16:55] <cache_surplus> when i goto network icon on ubuntu, i get this response - Could Not Display "network:///"  now, i can access my freebsd server no problem in gnome desktop by typing in smb://x.x.x.x/shares     it mounts fine, and is displayed, so forth, but the network icon under Places doesnt show up and produces the error above and also: http://ScrnSht.com/lyjjyj
[16:56] <llutz> Tracker2: /join #ubuntu-es
[16:56] <cache_surplus> suggestions? links? howtos? thanks
[16:56] <genu> hey, I'm kind of new to tomcat. I'm trying to deply an applycation on the server, but I get a message "FAIL - Application at contacts path /[my app] could not be starated" Where can I find the logs so I can see what went wrong? can I get some help?
[16:56] <Pici> genu: #tomcat would be a better place to ask.
[16:57] <genu> @Pici I didn't nobody seems to be around... :/
[16:57] <tbruff13> can some one help me i am trying to add vinux repos to my system and now one is in the vinux channel that can help me
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> hypertyper: http://paste.ubuntu.com/694599/    just made a neat version :)
[16:58] <llutz> ActionParsnip: baaah "sudo cat /proc...."
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: do you have the ppa:   link
[16:58] <slayer> installed Ubuntu server, ran updates, now the server wont access the internet, what is strange is I can ssh in, resolvve dns but I can't get out, any ideas?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> llutz: true
[16:58]  * o0splitpaw0o is frustrated
[16:58] <designbybeck> anyone know what the setting is in Compiz to "Shade" a window... like ctrl + scroll wheel to roll up and down on the title bar??
[16:58] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: no that is what i need a ppa i do have one though
[16:58] <B0g4r7_> Anyone wanna help me with svn?  I can't seen to make the SVNListParentPath dirctive work.  I just receive a 403 error when I expect to see a directory listing.
[16:59] <B0g4r7_> slayer, perhaps your default route is missing or incorrect.
[16:59] <slayer> nope, i can ping my router
[16:59] <Corey> Bananoblado: 403 is a permissions error.
[16:59] <Corey> Er, that was to B0g4r7_
[16:59] <B0g4r7_> slayer, ping it from outside the local network?  What about sshing to it from outside?
[16:59] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/index.php?title=How_Do_I_Add_the_Vinux_Repositories_to_my_Ubuntu_system%3F
[17:00] <tbruff13> this page might work
[17:00] <Bananoblado> Good evening everyone!
[17:00] <pythonsnake> hi,
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:00] <Bananoblado> How are you?
[17:00] <DBordello> I am having gdm do a timedlogin to automatically login a user.  However, I can't seem to figure out how to set the default session.  Any ideas what configuration file to look in?
[17:00] <slayer> B0g4r7_:  I am accessing it from outside the network, and I can ping accros the firewall to another connected network, just no internet outside the box
[17:01] <pythonsnake> Bananoblado: We don't care. #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:01] <Bananoblado> Care of what?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: add the line:    http://ppa.launchpad.net/vinux/vinux-lucid/ubuntu lucid main       change lucid to your release (the PPA has all the way up to Oneiric). Save the new file, close gedit then run:
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys EF2AFDCF
[17:01] <B0g4r7_> slayer, what are you testing with that says 'no internet'?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: I literally copied and pasted 90% of that from the page YOU gave
[17:01] <B0g4r7_> like, what program?
[17:01] <IdleOne> pythonsnake: Please be a little nicer when redirecting people to other channels.
[17:02] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: i know i tried this i did not work
[17:02] <w30> designbybeck, I can set mine by going to system preferences windows
[17:02] <slayer> B0g4r7_:   im trying to wget, apt-get, ssh anything
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: what errors do you get?
[17:02] <hypertyper> ActionParnsip: that is neat, sudo isn't needed.. however, when I try to compare the output of what you posted to a string I get the same old error message [charged command not found
[17:02] <designbybeck> Ahh, thanks w30  i'll try that out
[17:02] <pythonsnake> IdleOne: ok
[17:02] <tbruff13> ok i have to re do it to see
[17:03] <pythonsnake> Bananoblado: Hey ! This is support channel. For offtopic stuff, see #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: you need to add the word 'deb' to the start of the line, so it will look like this:   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/vinux/vinux-lucid/ubuntu oneiric main
[17:03] <IdleOne> pythonsnake: 100% better. thank you.
[17:03] <tbruff13> oh ok
[17:03] <pythonsnake> IdleOne: no problem.
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: you should contact the maintainers of the wiki so they change that
[17:04] <GreekFreak> Hi. How can I find out what the version numbers of the kernel and mesa will be in Oneiric? I need a specific version and above, but I'd rather let ubuntu upgrade tehm for me as opposed to experimenting
[17:04] <artek90> hi
[17:04] <w30> designbybeck, I can set mine by going to system preferences windows or in a terminal gnome-window-properties
[17:04] <tbruff13> i will
[17:04] <artek90> how are you
[17:04] <Pici> GreekFreak: ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:04] <artek90> ?
[17:04] <designbybeck> ah shucks w30 ... That turns off double clicking for maximizing, i still wanted that on as well
[17:04] <tbruff13> let me try it first
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: obviously, use YOUR release name, I'm using Oneiric here
[17:05] <Pici> GreekFreak: That is the Oneiric Channel.
[17:05] <tbruff13> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/vinux/vinux-lucid/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[17:05] <mang0> pythonsnake: Have installed docky. However, it seems to be quite cpu intensive. Takes a second to appear on mouseover, and a second to dissappear too....
[17:05] <Milossh> hello, I can't connect to vpn. this is the tail from syslog
[17:05] <Milossh> NetworkManager[712]: <info> VPN service 'openvpn' disappeared
[17:05] <tbruff13> i gotta go
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: does the PPA support 64bit too?
[17:05] <GreekFreak> Pici: thank you
[17:05] <tbruff13> i figured it out
[17:06] <llutz> hypertyper:what about?: grep Discharging /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state || echo "on mains"
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> actually, there is no natty folder http://ppa.launchpad.net/vinux/vinux-lucid/ubuntu/dists/ HA
[17:06] <hypertyper> llutz, I can echo the state correctly but I'm trying to write a script which checks the status then makes decisions based on it
[17:06] <pythonsnake> mang0: your cpu is slow !
[17:06] <pythonsnake> Can we have GNOME 2 in Oneiric ?
[17:06] <syrinx_priest> Hi all... trying to change the boot order of grub in 11.04.  I've tried both Startup Manager and manually editing the grub file under etc, no luck.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> pythonsnake: thats fine, ubuntu doesn't need mega speed to run well
[17:07] <syrinx_priest> Not boot order... I'm trying to change which OS boots by default
[17:07] <mang0> pythonsnake: Indeed, my cpu is retarded...I really REALLY Need a new computer but I've not got any money :/
[17:07] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: it's docky, not ubuntu
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> pythonsnake: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric chat and support
[17:07] <syrinx_priest> Anyone had any luck with this?
[17:07] <Zerpy> Nooooes.. "dk.archive.ubuntu.com" is down so can't install using apt-get install :S
[17:07] <pythonsnake> Zerpy: change repo
[17:07] <Zerpy> How I do that? :P
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> pythonsnake: it still releates to Oneiric though, right?
[17:08] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: no?
[17:08] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: mang0 told me docky is slow for him
[17:08] <blsh0p> ok google chrome an inch of the bottom screen is cut off
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> (18:06:52) pythonsnake: Can we have GNOME 2 in Oneiric ?     Is this not what you were asking, or is this a new question
[17:08] <deke111> Hi all - running 10.04 - kernel has been updated many times, wondering if its OK to delete previous kernels in /boot directory and edit them out of grub.
[17:08] <blsh0p> even if i maximize the page how to i fix that cut off?
[17:08] <GreekFreak> How safe is it to upgrade your linux kernel?
[17:09] <Zerpy> pythonsnake: I found it :D ty
[17:09] <mang0> pythonsnake: Indeed it is.... :/
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> deke111: use ubuntu-tweak to delete old kernels
[17:09] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: asking
[17:09] <unk> hey can anyone tell me how to check HOW MANY MEMBERS are in a channel??
[17:09] <hot2trot> what is a good virtualization software to run windows? NOT wine
[17:09] <mang0> 1594 unk
[17:09] <pythonsnake> GreekFreak: 100 % safe and 100% unsafe
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> unk: type /n
[17:09] <hypertyper> ok so the problem is that I don't know how to compare the string in a variable to another string... I'll google some more...
[17:09] <pythonsnake> unk: ...
[17:09] <pythonsnake> unk: it's not related to ubuntu
[17:10] <pythonsnake> ask in #{irc server/client|
[17:10] <Milossh> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1334268
[17:10] <GreekFreak> pythonsnake: lol. basically I want to know if it will cause me problems with Ubuntu updates
[17:10] <unk> pythonsnake: i have to ask somewhere then tell me where should i go
[17:10] <deke111> thanks MonkeyDust - I'll try that.
[17:10] <urlin2u> deke111, I use ubuntu tweak to remove kernels or synaptic, grub2 will just need a sudo upfate-grub
[17:10] <urlin2u> uodate-grub
[17:10] <urlin2u> update-grub
[17:10] <w30> deke111, do it with synaptic and then Ubuntu will edit grub for you, just find the kernel numbers you don't use after search kernel
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> hot2trot: virtualbox or vmware or qemu maybe, you'll need a windows license and install media, there is also cedega and crossover office which run like wine but are paid for
[17:11] <pythonsnake> unk: /help
[17:11] <pythonsnake> GreekFreak: safe
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> unk: I'm a member :)
[17:11] <pythonsnake> hmm ?
[17:11] <pythonsnake> why the floodbot opping
[17:11] <hot2trot> ActionParsnip: thank you
[17:12] <GreekFreak> pythonsnake: awesome. It will update again correctly then, if it sees I need a higher kernel version? (Sorry, I'm new to Ubunut(
[17:13] <pythonsnake> GreekFreak: add linux kernel to ignore list ?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> deke111: if you run:  uname -a  you can see the CURRENT kernel, if you run:   dpkg -l | egrep 'linux-image--2|linux-image-3'     you can see the INSTALLED kernels. You can use software centre to uninstall the INSTALLED kernels but do NOT remove the RUNNING kernel. You don't need some 3rd party nonesense
[17:13] <pythonsnake> you can have multiple kernel
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> deke111: this will get you ~120Mb per kernel in space and Grub will be cleared up for you
[17:14] <GreekFreak> pythonsnake: you answered inadvertedly ;) I don't want to ignore the updates, but I don't want it to downgrade it either.
[17:14] <pythonsnake> GreekFreak: maybe a ppa, dunno
[17:14] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, You don't need some 3rd party nonesense  lol dude
[17:16] <GreekFreak> pythonsnake: thanks for your help.
[17:16] <ikonia> GreekFreak: updating your kernel is not safe
[17:17] <ikonia> GreekFreak: it is very very strongly not advised
[17:17] <deke111> ActionParsnip: thanks - I have 12 uninstalled kernels - guess I have some houscleaning to do.
[17:17] <pythonsnake> ikonia: o.O
[17:17] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, your command brought up no kernels here as well.
[17:18] <Pici> GreekFreak, ikonia: Unless its via updates that come in through the repositories.
[17:18] <GreekFreak> ikonia, pici: I'll wait for the updates then. I was looking to do it manually for some graphics card drivers
[17:18] <ikonia> Pici: correct, which as the update GreekFreak wants is from a later distro, not safe
[17:20] <adi11> hi all. i need help with a freezing hp pavillion dv 6700 after fresh install of 11.04. right after choosing ubuntu on grub page all i see is the purple screen. forced to ctrl+alt+del.
[17:20] <urlin2u> dpkg -l | egrep 'linux-image--2|linux-image-2' it was lucis ActionParsnip
[17:20] <urlin2u> lucid*
[17:20] <madalin> can dhcp lease an ip FOREVER ?
[17:21] <teenboy> reinstall
[17:21] <adi11> anyone can help with this issue? this laptop have a nvidia card,amd cpu and i am on <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:22] <Polah> How can I set up my system to automatically sync one or more directories on a USB drive with directories on my hard drive?
[17:22] <ikonia> Polah: a chap the other day used a very nice rsync script as a udev event trigger
[17:22] <teenboy> Use alternate distr
[17:22] <ikonia> Polah: so when his hard disk was plugged in, the udev event triggered a sync, it was a nice solution
[17:23] <Polah> ikonia: I thought I could use rsync but I've never used it so I don't know it's capabilities. I guess I'll have a look around for how to do it
[17:25] <hypertyper> ActionParsnip, llutz: what I was doing wrong was the string comparison... wrong brackets and whitespacing. I've got a working version now: paste.ubuntu.com/694619
[17:25] <hypertyper> that was harder than it should have been..
[17:28] <Polah> ikonia: Alright, I found an application named unison which uses rsync to sync files. How can I set a script up to run when the drive is plugged into my system?
[17:28] <i0x71> hey, im trying to authenticate against AD with ldap, can someone point me in the right way
[17:28] <llutz> hypertyper: finally ... :D
[17:29] <llutz> Polah: use an udev-rule
[17:29] <ikonia> Polah: why do you need an application, why not just use rsync ?
[17:29] <Putr> hi! I just got a ubuntu vps. Is there a good app that would help me track memory/cpu usage (and possibly other statistics). Possibly with a web interface?
[17:30] <Polah> ikonia: I could, but I figure I'll see how it goes with this first
[17:30] <ohuanca> holas
[17:30] <ohuanca> hello world
[17:30] <llutz> Polah: take this as an example http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=989780
[17:30] <ikonia> Polah: why add a layer of complexity.
[17:30] <cormyn> Putr, you could try something like nagios for monitoring
[17:30] <ikonia> Polah: why add a script that calls an application that calls rsync, when you can just call rsync
[17:31] <Putr> cormyn: thanks, i'll check that
[17:31] <Pici> Putr: munin is nice if you like graphs.
[17:31] <Corollax> I've been having upstream internet problems, but network manager doesn't tell me when I get disconnected from the external network (I can still reach the LAN). How do I fix this?
[17:31] <Putr> Pici: i like graphs :)
[17:31] <cormyn> Putr: no problem
[17:31] <Putr> is nagios in the repo and free?
[17:32] <cormyn> quick question: anyone know of an easy way to detect if a laptop has an extra monitor plugged in on boot to toggle between which xorg.conf file to load for single screen vs dual screen mode?
[17:32] <lovre> im connected to LAN with other computers that use Windows, but when i go to network/samba, i dont see any of them, i just get the message: Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall. But i dont know of any firewall installed. Any idea?
[17:32] <cormyn> Putr: yes, it's totally free and nagios3 should be in apt
[17:32] <cormyn> Putr: you can also write your own plugins for things to monitor, their documentation is very good
[17:33] <Putr> cormyn: so nagios is a service with a web frontend?
[17:33] <Corollax> I've been having upstream internet problems, but network manager doesn't tell me when I get disconnected from the external network (I can still reach the LAN). How do I fix this?
[17:33] <Putr> or how is the gui done=
[17:33] <jasonm_> Putr: yes, web front end for nagios
[17:34] <Putr> awsome. Let me get that installed :)
[17:34] <Putr> and last thing. How do i change the language of the server from the command line? I have a german server that's in german.  I can do most things .. but it annoying
[17:34] <ab847> Hi. I am running 11.04 with an Intel Mobile 4 chipset, and cannot change my resolution or boot with Unity. Monitors window says "Monitor: unknown" and no setting can be changed
[17:34] <jasonm_> Nagios is extremely configurable and a powerful monitoring tool
[17:35] <cormyn> Putr: Nagios is Perl-based, but it's pretty easy to install and maintain. I recommend a tool like "nconf" to configure nagios though, as manually tweaking the configuration can be tricky
[17:35] <majdekalel> helllllllllo
[17:35] <cormyn> Putr: not sure if nconf is in the main apt repo, but it uses php/mysql to manage your hosts, services, etc., and is WAY more intuitive for setting up Nagios: http://www.nconf.org/dokuwiki/doku.php
[17:35] <Putr> corymn: never heard of nconf b4. What does it do?
[17:36] <cache_surplus> cormyn: install yes, configure no
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ab847: are you fully updated?
[17:36] <cpglsn> hi everybody
[17:36] <Corollax> I've been having upstream internet problems, but network manager doesn't tell me when I get disconnected from the external network (I can still reach the LAN). How do I fix this?
[17:36] <majdekalel> how can i configure cgi-bin folder in ubuntu ??? im using apache2 ??????
[17:36] <cormyn> cache_surplus: yes, that's why I said it's easy to install and maintain, not configure :o)
[17:37] <cpglsn> can you please help me ? i'm trying to add 1 line with sudoers:     prof ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown -h now       but visudo continue to tell me there's an error ... do you see it ?
[17:37] <cache_surplus> cormyn: sounded like it was easy in totality lol
[17:37] <ikonia> cpglsn: get rid of -h now
[17:37] <cache_surplus> im actually working on an acidbase today
[17:37] <cpglsn> prof exist and is a parte of admin group
[17:37] <cache_surplus> and nagios3
[17:37] <cache_surplus> box
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: I believe you only add the command, you don't add the switched
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> *switches
[17:38] <Putr> cormyn: well it requested a password :)
[17:38] <ikonia> cpglsn: the admin group doesn't matter, as your calling you by name
[17:38] <cormyn> cache_surplus: I've been using nagios since back in 2000/2001 when it was called netsaint, believe me, I know it's a PITA to configure, heheh
[17:38] <cache_surplus> yep me too
[17:38] <cache_surplus> agrees
[17:38] <kasi> I've an additional drive in my computer. Is there a gui tool for partitioning the drive, or do I have to use fdisk?
[17:38] <cache_surplus> thats why we get paid the big bucks ;)
[17:38] <ab847> ActionParnip: Yes
[17:38] <cormyn> Putr: read the docs for nagios, it'll tell you all of that stuff
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> kasi: gparted
[17:38] <cpglsn> prof ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown    same problem
[17:38] <synackfin> how do I make ubuntu text-based? (instead of bringing up X11/gdm)
[17:38] <ab847> ActionParsnip: Yes
[17:38] <kasi> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:39] <cormyn> cache_surplus: amen to that ;o)
[17:39] <cpglsn> ActionParsnip: switched ?
[17:39] <cache_surplus> wow i havent heard that term in a long time, NetSaint...
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: note the correction on the next line
[17:39] <Putr> cormyn what about cacti ... any easyer?
[17:39] <cache_surplus> or Satan for that matter
[17:39] <ikonia> cpglsn: delete the line and exit visudo - make sure it's not erroring without that line
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> ab847: I suggest you read:  gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:39] <cormyn> Putr: I haven't used cacti, but as I understand it, cacti does more graphing based on what tools like nagios find for you
[17:40] <cache_surplus> cacti is nice, so is cricket
[17:40] <cpglsn> ikonia: did it, but when i put it again the error stay
[17:40] <cormyn> cache_surplus: Satan was the original author/maintainer, that's why it's a #$*& to configure
[17:40] <cache_surplus> all the same to me, they monitor and nag you about your services/box is down
[17:40] <cache_surplus> i have a copy of it somewhere on my tar box
[17:40] <cpglsn> ActionParsnip: sorry, but i still don't understand "you don't add the switches"
[17:40] <ikonia> cpglsn: but when you exit without that line, it saves correctly ?
[17:40] <cpglsn> ikonia: yes
[17:40] <cache_surplus> i still use the perl script to view snort logs with
[17:40] <ikonia> cpglsn: are you using spaces or tabs ?
[17:41] <cpglsn> ikonia: spaces
[17:41] <ikonia> cpglsn: it's a tab
[17:41] <cpglsn> ikonia: between line elements ?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: you are adding the ability for a command to not need password in sudo, the command is the binary 'shutdown'  the switches ar '-h now'  which you do not need to add in the sudoers file
[17:41] <ab847> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/wW8Fur2k
[17:41] <ikonia> cpglsn: correct
[17:41] <ikonia> cpglsn: (not sure it makes a difference, but all my rules have tabs)
[17:41] <cpglsn> ActionParsnip: oh ok, thanks
[17:42] <cpglsn> ikonia: now i try
[17:42] <kasi> Ubuntu is installed on sdb, but the computer tries to boot from sda. How can I install grub on sda to then boot sdb? I can boot by going into the bios boot selector each time and then select the second drive.
[17:42] <cpglsn> ikonia: same error
[17:42] <ikonia> cpglsn: I've just tested it on my machine and it works fine
[17:43] <cpglsn> the problem is that, the same line in different positions sometimes change the result (error or not)
[17:43] <cpglsn> this is strange
[17:43] <ikonia> oco2: testuser        ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown -h now
[17:43] <ikonia> oops
[17:43] <ikonia> cpglsn: testuser        ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown -h now
[17:44] <ikonia> that just worked fine for me
[17:44] <Polah> I'm look at the rsync man page and there's the -u option for update, but it also lists -append, --inplace and --append-verify, are all of these options used with -u or are they similar options which I would have to specify separately?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> ab847: open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory    maybe a thing
[17:44] <cpglsn> ikonia: now i but at the biginning of the file, but it ask for a password
[17:45] <ab847> ActionParsnip: What can I do about that?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers   actually shows how you can add this...
[17:45] <ikonia> Polah: the man page explains the differences
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> ab847: use the web to find out
[17:46] <ikonia> cpglsn: can't explain that, I've just moved mine to the top of the file and it's fine
[17:46] <cpglsn> ActionParsnip: you roks !
[17:46] <Polah> ikonia: yes, but they're all listed under -u, there's -u update then just beneath that --append and so on with no shorter version. Is -u only short for --update, or --update --inplace --append --append-verify?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: suprised you didn't check that first
[17:46] <ikonia> Polah: -u is only short for update
[17:46] <cpglsn> ikonia: ActionParsnip the problem was that, installing joe, it autoset itself as default editor, and, as i can see, joe is not good with sudoers
[17:46] <ikonia> Polah: also be aware of #rsync
[17:46] <Polah> ikonia: Alright thanks
[17:49] <th0r> cpglsn: you have to use visudo to edit the sudoers file
[17:49] <cpglsn> th0r: i know =)
[17:49] <o0splitpaw0o> !Virtualbox
[17:49] <cpglsn> ikonia: ActionParsnip now everything works well. Thanks a lot for help
[17:51] <ab847> ActionParsnip: I found a recommendation to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, which doesn't seem to do anything, and --reinstall xserver-xorg which says "Invalid operation xserver-xorg". I have done both of these before though, and neither did anything to help. Can you think of anything else to try?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: np bro
[17:51] <cpglsn> =)
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ab847: you may need an xorg.conf file to specify the driver if udev is not doing its job.
[17:53] <ab847> ActionParsnip: I've generated one, and tried filling it in, but it doesn't seem to have any effect. The result seems to be the same with the xorg.conf or without
[17:53] <pk___> i dont have proxy in my .bashrc , i removed my /etc/environment...but still when i open a new terminal the $http_proxy is set
[17:54] <pk___> please help me i want to get rid of this proxy
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> pk___: did you set it in the GUI app?
[17:56] <pk___> ActionParsnip: yeah
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> ab847: search the web, you'll find sample files, if your system has a make and model, try searching for that in conjustion with xorg.conf
[17:56] <t-minus> test
[17:56] <mbeierl> does anyone else have significant display issues when running under unity?  For example, vmware player keeps "tearing
[17:56] <pk___> ActionParsnip: but i dont have access to gui right now
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> pk___: do you have SSH access?
[17:56] <mbeierl> tearing itself off its window border and attempting to display its contents elsewhere
[17:56] <pk___> ActionParsnip: yeah
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> pk___: connect with:  ssh -X -C username@host    then you can run the command which launches the app and it will appear on your client X server (I assume the client is Linux based with running x server)
[17:58] <pk___> ActionParsnip: why do we want to launch this gui?
[17:59] <nullp0inter> sed -i 's@dbname='abox1029@dbname='rgonet@g' *.php I am using this sed to replace the strings, but it is not switching the strings. What could be the problem? i am verifying this by doing 'grep dbname| grep abox'
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> pk___: so you can undo the setting as you set the proxy in the GUI, the setting may be stored in gconf someplace or another place. Its a simple case of undoing what was done
[18:00] <Guest12849> i have 64-bit ubuntu and i made bash script that goes other directory, but when the script ends im still at my root home folder and not under home subdirectory
[18:00] <pk___> ActionParsnip: ohh you mean this app will run on my computer with this comamnd?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> pk___: yes, you will be using X forwarding
[18:01] <Pici> nullp0inter: Your quoting characters are probably messing things up.  You may need to escape the ones inside your sed expression.
[18:02] <nullp0inter> Pici, i tried using \ to escape them but the switch still doesnt happen
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: never had an issue with unity
[18:02] <Pici> nullp0inter: Try replacing the outer quotes with doublequotes.
[18:02] <nullp0inter> pici tried that already as well
[18:02] <nullp0inter> Pici, no go
[18:02] <Pici> nullp0inter: let me try something here.. one moment
[18:03] <ab847> ActionParsnip: Looking around a bit more; someone has the same problem but in OpenSUSE and he said he fixed it by recreating /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf. I do not have /xorg.conf.d/, is this different in Ubuntu or do I have to create this?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest12849: so the script has a line like:   cd ~/Downloads    and when it ends, you aren't in that folder
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> ab847: create it, see what happens
[18:03] <Guest12849> ActionParsnip,  YES! why? always it has work but not anymore :/
[18:04] <Pici> nullp0inter: sed -i "s@dbname='abox1029@dbname='rgonet@g" works for me.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest12849: let me test
[18:04] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: unfortunately, this is becoming unusable.  I've tried with both radeon and ati proprietary fglrx (which makes things even worse) and no luck
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: tried with ubuntu classic?
[18:05] <nullp0inter> Pici, that worked for me...but how is that different from what i had?
[18:05] <Guest12849> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/694650/
[18:05] <nullp0inter> pici i see the diff, i didnt try double quote non escaped single quotes
[18:06] <fatek> k/
[18:06] <ab847> ActionParsnip: What is the command? I tried gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf which worked to make xorg.conf but isn't allowing it now
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest12849: yeah same, not sure why. I'd ask in #bash. Maybe the change dir only exists in the scope of the script
[18:07] <Guest12849> ActionParsnip, i have made script where is 93 line of code. it has worked before but after this "bug" it hasnt worked :/
[18:08] <Guest12849> ActionParsnip, hmm anyway now it doesnt work and it has been working earlier
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest12849: i'd ask in #bash
[18:08] <Guest12849> ActionParsnip,  good :)
[18:08] <sobersabre> hi.
[18:09] <sobersabre> I've changed my partition table a bit too much. need help to run the laptop from a CD.
[18:09] <petar> how do i get openoffice back on ubuntu 10.10?
[18:09] <Guest12849> ab847,  if you are at terminal use sudo and if you are at GUI use gksu :)
[18:09] <sobersabre> got the CDs of: ubuntu 11.04[amd64] and gparted live CD[i386]
[18:10] <sobersabre> tried booting, neither started, - the laptop tried to boot from the hdd, with grub rescue> prompt.
[18:10] <petar> how do i get openoffice back on ubuntu 11.04? (sorry, wrong version)
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> sobersabre: what video chip do you use?
[18:11] <h00k> petar: LibreOffice is the updated version of OpenOffice you will find in 11.04.
[18:11] <ab847> Guest12849: Still says the same thing. I try to save, says file cannot be found
[18:11] <h00k> petar: LibreOffice is more up-to-date and compatable with other formats
[18:11] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: not recently.  New linux install and haven't gone back to classic yet...  might have to
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> sobersabre: gparted is on the ubuntu liveCD, so you don't need gparted liveCD
[18:12] <petar> h00k, i need openoffice for a somewhat complicated reason..
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> h00k: its a fork, not an update
[18:13] <Guest12849> ab847,  use terminal/console
[18:13] <Maarten> probably old news but..... say you only have that old 128 Mb USB flash drive available, your CD drive just broke down, and you really want to install ubuntu..... Use this: http://netbootcd.tuxfamily.org/ - a ISO file of 10 Mb that can be extracted to a USB drive as well, will connect to ethernet (wired only), and then download the distro and version of your choice, and start installing it. Really neat :) - just thought I would share, I used it to
[18:13] <Maarten> put Ubuntu on a beefed up thin client. :)
[18:13] <h00k> ActionParsnip: it's a fork that received updates quicker than OpenOffice (it was forlorn at the time), yeah.
[18:13] <Guest12849> ab847, and sudo command
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> h00k: quicker updates doesn't mean its an update
[18:14] <Lithos84> petar: You can install OpenOffice.org in 11.04.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> petar: you can go to the openoffice site and grab the debs for openoffice, uninstall libreoffice and install the debs, it will not be updated in the normal way as Canonical's repos do not have the openoffice packages
[18:14] <Sk|p> hi guys.. i was wondering if anyone was successfully enabled voice/video calls on pidgin .. im running ubuntu natty..
[18:15] <Lithos84> petar: OpenOffice.org is available on the repositories.
[18:15] <ab847> Guest12849: Did that, same problem. I will BRB
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> so it is
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> !info openoffice.org-gtk
[18:16] <Sk|p> been searching around but no success.. everything has been installed and plug-in was enabled but still the options are grayed out.. tnx in advance..
[18:17] <petar> well that one depends on libreoffice-gtk..
[18:17] <petar> thanks anyway, i'll re-check if the defaults really are a problem..
[18:18] <RenatoSilva> petar: welcome to the openoffice.org+libreoffice+broffice spaghetti  :)
[18:18] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, it's only a transitionnal package used for upgrades (to switch from openoffice to libreoffice)
[18:18] <ab847> Deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf and xorg.conf.failsafe cause I read those would override other setting and rebooted but that didn't help.
[18:18] <RenatoSilva> petar: missed your question but why not use libreoffice
[18:19] <Guest12849> ab847,  cat /etc/issue
[18:19] <ab847> Guest12849: Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l
[18:19] <RenatoSilva> how to map keys of my awesome MS keyboard to launch applications? example: the message key launching pidgin
[18:19] <Guest12849> ab847,  hmm you should even have those files....
[18:20] <petar> RenatoSilva: our libreoffice users experienced some issues with files on smb shares.. locking issues.. NT_STATUS_FILE_LOCK_CONFLICT.. and it seems like the folks at openoffice.org know about it and were able to release a fix..
[18:20] <mordof> lostson: you around?
[18:20] <ab847> Guest12849: xorg.conf I made myself, following instructions I've found online which suggested it, the .failsafe has been there
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: I see, I don't use it.I use Abiword + Gnumeric as I don't use the other apps so I save a tonne of space :)
[18:21] <Guest12849> ab847,  what is your original problem?
[18:21] <fatek> #ubuntu
[18:21] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, so do I ;)
[18:21] <subone> how do i symlink more than one file at a time? like ln -s somefile.* -t somepath
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> subone: you'd need a small bash loop command
[18:22] <subone> i thought i might
[18:22] <Hamled> I don't suppose it would be possible for me to see the list of installed packages on my machine sorted by install/update date?
[18:23] <RenatoSilva> Sk|p: from #pidgin's topic: "Voice/Video (VV) on XMPP only (not on Windows)"
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Hamled: read through /var/log/dpkg.log
[18:23] <hagus> Is this the channel to ask how to remove postgresql.
[18:23] <Hamled> thanks, will check that out
[18:24] <ab847> Guest12849: I'm using 11.04 on a Toshiba C655 with an Intel Mobile 4 chipset. I had problems being able to boot only into failsafeX mode, but created the xorg.conf file and have been able ot boot normally since, whether I have the file or not. However, I am stuck at 1024x768 resolution, and the Monitors screen says "Monitor: Unknown" and does not allow me to change anything. Also, this normal boot does not use Unity as it did at first
[18:24] <ab847> fine, minus Unity
[18:24] <hagus> I installed postgresql on ubuntu but when I came to sudo apt-get remove postgresql - it told me that there was a file missing and stopped  :(
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> ab847: have you tried the Oneiric liveCD to test if that is ok?
[18:25] <nieros> resolution is usually a driver issue more than it it an OS config, but if it's not calling the video drivers...
[18:25] <hagus> Basically, I want to know in general terms how to go about removing a package/programme that has become corrupted?
[18:26] <Guest12849> ab847,  damn :/ write  lspci| grep VGA' to terminal
[18:26] <hagus> Is there a way of deleting postgresql from my ubuntu?
[18:26] <ab847> ActionParsnip: No I have not. I have a really slow connection at home, but I can download it at school and try
[18:26] <Guest12849> ab847,   lspci| grep VGA
[18:26] <synackfin> how to I make ubuntu text-based? (don't start up splash screen, don't run X, don't run gdm)
[18:26] <glebihan> hagus, there isn't really a general rule on how to do that, it depends on what the error is. Could you pastebin the error message ?
[18:27] <llutz> !nox | synackfin
[18:27] <ab847> Guest12849: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[18:27] <Error404NotFound> 'cp -rf dir1 dir2' copies dir1 as dir2, if we run second time it would put dir1 under dir2 but i want dir1 to always replace dir2
[18:27] <subone> thanks ActionParsnip
[18:27] <hagus> ok, glebihan.
[18:27] <Guest12849> damn i have to leave now i will come back with tsaknorris name
[18:27] <Guest12849> bb
[18:28] <KomiaPoika> hi
[18:28] <ab847> I've been suggested to just go back to 10.10, but was hoping I could find a solution to keep 11.04
[18:28] <KomiaPoika> how do you display physical RAM info in ubuntu? (without the hd swap space)
[18:29] <ikonia> KomiaPoika: free
[18:29] <KomiaPoika> ikonia: so if free says i have 2959652 total Mem means I have 3GB of physical ram?
[18:30] <hagus> glebihan: http://www.pastie.org/2569804
[18:30] <ikonia> KomiaPoika: pretty much yes
[18:30] <ikonia> KomiaPoika: (didn't the maths outside of my head, but that looks right)
[18:31] <glebihan> hagus, you're not using the right command
[18:31] <hagus> I tried remove, I tried purge and I tried autoremove
[18:31] <glebihan> hagus, it should be "sudo apt-get remove postgresql" (or "sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove postgresql" if you want to also remove packages that are no longer needed)
[18:32] <hagus> auto-remove rather than autoremove?
[18:32] <hagus> m
[18:32]  * hagus goes and tries it
[18:32] <glebihan> hagus, if you already tried remove it won't wrok
[18:33] <glebihan> hagus, try "sudo apt-get install -f" first
[18:33] <hagus> OK
[18:33] <McFly___80> I instaled pure-ftpd and I need to set some startup options for the deamon. Where can I find posible configuration options? I'm used to a conf file in gentoo, but on ubunto I need to make files for each directive in /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/
[18:33] <ikonia> McFly___80: the proftp site details the options available
[18:34] <ubun> hey guys... plaease help i deleted somthing on my machine and now it wont boot up. last thing i did was removed some things i thought were the video driver, but apparantly it was important. how can i fix it.
[18:34] <McFly___80> ikonia: It's pureftp, and it does not state what to call the files exactly. I'm just guessing right now
[18:35] <mordof> ubun: what does it tell you when it can't boot up?
[18:35] <ikonia> McFly___80: sorry, I miss-read, what do you mean "call the files"
[18:35] <hagus> Tried but it still gives me the same kind of error messages, glebihan.
[18:35] <Pici> McFly___80: It doesn't matter what they're called, they're just separated like that to make it easy to manage.
[18:35] <McFly___80> ikonia: What o name the files
[18:35] <llutz> McFly___80: doesn't it have an /etc/default/pureftp file to change
[18:35] <setiamon> Ok
[18:35] <setiamon> I have a issue
[18:35] <setiamon> i installed ubuntu
[18:35] <ikonia> McFly___80: how did you install it ?
[18:35] <Cube``> hey guys, i'm looking for a tablet where you can actually write/draw on, aka pressure sensitivity and such. it should be small (10-13'') and have a decent battery life (5h+). price doesnt matter. is there anything like that? the biggest problem is finding something that has a real TABLET screen, not a fake 'omigod i can use my finger to move the cursor!!!11' PR stunt
[18:35] <glebihan> hagus, ok then try "sudo apt-get remove postgresql-common postgresql-8.4 postgresql"
[18:36] <ubun> mordof: nothing it just sits there with a black screen only says something when i restart it. (normal shutdown text)
[18:36] <McFly___80> Pici: they need to be named the directive names and contain "yse" "no" etc
[18:36] <Pici> ikonia, llutz: Hes talking about things like /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/NoAnonymous and /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/UnixAuthentication
[18:36] <ikonia> Cube``: that's n othing to do with this channel, try ##hardware
[18:36] <setiamon> but when booting it says "no videomode active" every time.I foundout i had to hit alt-f7 (just randomly recalling from years ago when i used linux) and then i get the login screen etc.anyone know how to fix this?
[18:36] <Cube``> ikonia: and it's supposed to run ubuntu, of course.
[18:36] <McFly___80> ikonia: apt-get
[18:36] <mordof> ubun: have you tried alt+f1 to drop to TTY?
[18:36] <hagus> that worked, glebihan
[18:36] <ikonia> Cube``: again, nothing to do with ubuntu, find the hardware on the hardware compatabilty list,
[18:36] <llutz> Pici:sry i just read  " ..add startup options for the deamon..."
[18:37] <McFly___80> Pici: yes, exactly, where can I find possible values
[18:37] <glebihan> hagus, nice :)
[18:37] <ubun> mordof: ok that went to the tty. but now what?
[18:37] <ubun> install gnome?
[18:37] <mordof> ubun: try typing startx
[18:37] <mordof> and see what happens
[18:37] <hagus> Have now removed the rest of it.  THANKS glebihan :)
[18:37] <ubun> ok
[18:37] <glebihan> hagus, you're welcome
[18:38] <McFly___80> Pici ikonia: I need to have the -j option on, but I can find out what to name the file to make it work
[18:38] <ikonia> McFly___80: that's passed in the master config file, or the init script
[18:38] <llutz> McFly___80: vim /etc/default/pure-ftpd-common
[18:39] <McFly___80> ikonia: there is no master conf file
[18:39] <ubun> mordof: it says welcome to ubuntu 11.04. then the warnings
[18:39] <mordof> ubun: what warnings?
[18:39] <ikonia> McFly___80: there should be,
[18:39] <McFly___80> ikonia: no, the directives are split up in directive files
[18:39] <setiamon> hey
[18:39] <setiamon> is there a way i can switch back to Gnome Classic
[18:39] <ubun> mordof: the warranty stuff. this comes withi no WARANTY or whatever
[18:40] <setiamon> I think this new "unity" launcher kinda sucks frankly
[18:40] <setiamon> I can't navigate it well.doesn't display good with dual monitors
[18:40] <mordof> :\
[18:40] <setiamon> Anyone able to help me out
[18:40] <ikonia> McFly___80: I don't have a box to show you the exact file on, what are the files listed in /etc/pureftp
[18:40] <mordof> ubun: did it not give you any error at all when trying to use startx?
[18:40] <Pici> McFly___80: Take a look at the manpage for pure-ftpd-wrapper, that lists all the strings.
[18:40] <synackfin> obottu: thanks, I'll try that
[18:41] <ubun> mordof: no but let me double check
[18:41] <ikonia> Pici: is it launched through a wrapper on ubuntu
[18:41] <ubun> mordof: wait.
[18:41] <h00k> !classic | setiamon
[18:41] <glebihan> !classic | setiamon
[18:41] <McFly___80> Pici: Thanks! Strange place to hide them though
[18:41] <Pici> ikonia: I'd assume so.
[18:42] <Pici> McFly___80: I agree, it is weird.
[18:42] <McFly___80> ikonia: solved
[18:42] <setiamon> Thanks ubottu.Is it my imagination or does Unity suck?
[18:42] <ikonia> McFly___80: so I see
[18:42] <ubun> mordof: it says usr/bin/x: not found then it gives up
[18:42] <mordof> setiamon: keep in mind that 11.10 is due to remove classic
[18:42] <mordof> setiamon: and it'll be replaced with Unity 2D
[18:43] <coleix> Hey guys, im getting a message when booting. Something about cripsawp/mapper press s to omit or m to manually recover, or something arounds those lines
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> setiamon: Unity is controversial, let's keep it to that
[18:43] <synackfin> obottu: btw, the link you provided doesn't work:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[18:44] <pythonsnake> synackfin: .....
[18:44] <Pici> !bot | synackfin
[18:44] <edgar> anybody write spanish there , tanks for advanced
[18:44] <mordof> ubun: ok. that's a starting point.. I don't really know how to help - but that will improve your odds for getting help in here if you include that error in your question
[18:44] <pythonsnake> synackfin: ubottu is a bot
[18:44] <Pici> !es | edgar
[18:44] <setiamon> Mordff:hmm well i just find nothing but graphical problems with my nvidia.
[18:44] <setiamon> BRB rebooting
[18:44] <rhizmoe> how can i prevent firefox from requiring a reboot when it hangs?
[18:45] <edgar> gracias puedo escribir en ingles pero me resulta mas rapido en español
[18:45] <F3ro> so, if I have a question u guy scan help?
[18:45] <coleix> no one has an idea what that crypswap/mapper thing can be?
[18:45] <mordof> rhizmoe: let it sit for a while, if it doesn't fix itself - close and re open it
[18:45] <mordof> rhizmoe: you can't do anything if it locks up in an infinite loop
[18:45] <ubun> ok so can anyone help me. i have a black screen on startup. in tty get"usr/bin/x not found." what can i do to fix it?\
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> !ask| F3ro
[18:46] <rhizmoe> mordof: it's happened before and i've left it for days
[18:46] <usr13> rhizmoe: memtest  #Test your RAM
[18:46] <rhizmoe> mordof: there is no "close and reopen" without rebooting. firefox_bin stuck on sync_page on exit "Uninterruptible."
[18:46] <rhizmoe> usr13: lolno
[18:47] <mordof> rhizmoe: terminal - pkill firefox
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> rhizmoe: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[18:47] <usr13> mordof: rhizmoe I though it required a reboot?
[18:47] <rhizmoe> pkill is different than, say, kill -9 pid?
[18:47] <hagus> Is there a  command to fix dpkg  errors such as the following?
[18:47] <hagus> dpkg: error processing postgresql (--configure):  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[18:47] <rhizmoe> usr13: you're out of your element donny
[18:47] <mordof> rhizmoe: no, it's the same
[18:48] <usr13> rhizmoe: Is'nt that what you just said?
[18:48] <Toph2> why, when I do Ctrl-alt-backspace, nothing happens?
[18:48] <mordof> rhizmoe: i just use pkill because it does it by the process name instead of PID
[18:48] <rhizmoe> mordof: well that doesn't work either.
[18:48] <usr13> rhizmoe: What is a donny?
[18:48] <rhizmoe> mordof: sure. killall too
[18:48] <mordof> rhizmoe: right.. different variations
[18:48] <rhizmoe> usr13: movie quote, nevermind
[18:48] <wubw0b> !ops
[18:49] <mordof> rhizmoe: you're saying when firefox locks up on you - no matter what sort of kill process you use on it, it won't kill it...
[18:49] <usr13> rhizmoe: You were not explaining your issue properly.  Did you try to kill the process?
[18:49] <rhizmoe> mordof: on some hangs. it doesn't close dirty everytime, but occasionally it does.
[18:49] <hagus> Although I have successfully removed postgresql using glebihan's advice, when I try to reinstall it, I find that there is still some residual information that does not allow it to install properly.
[18:50] <mordof> rhizmoe: pkill should close an app that's in a complete lockup and not responding at all..
[18:50] <pythonsnake> ikonia: ban wubw0b ?
[18:50] <pythonsnake> lol :D
[18:50] <ikonia> pythonsnake: what ?
[18:50] <mordof> rhizmoe: if that doesn't work, you have some serious OS problems
[18:50] <rhizmoe> mordof: not zombies
[18:50] <mordof> o.O
[18:50] <pythonsnake> ikonia: nothing
[18:50] <F3ro> tyvm, so, how do I extract a compressed file, for instance, "debt-tslptd2.r00" ?
[18:50] <usr13> rhizmoe: Does the system lockup?    Dunno what his IRC name is, but is there a user here called Daniel Holbach?  I want to speak with him, assuming I can find him :)
[18:52] <rhizmoe> usr13: scroll up
[18:52] <coleix> Hey guys at boot im getting a message that says something about crypswap/mapper not present or somethin and press s to omit or press m to recover manually, because of this it takes longet to boot, anyway to solve this
[18:52] <usr13> rhizmoe:  Did you try pkill firefox?
[18:52] <rhizmoe> usr13: i think you're lagged
[18:52] <JuJuBee> Can someone lend a hand with routing issue?  http://pastebin.com/1BisU3qJ
[18:53] <usr13> rhizmoe: What does lagged mean?
[18:53] <mordof> usr13: you're asking him questions we went over a bit ago
[18:53] <rhizmoe> usr13: it's an irc thing. you seem to not have received my last 10 minutes of comments
[18:53] <glebihan> hagus, could you pastebin the error message again ?
[18:53] <oCean> BarkingFish: this is ubuntu technical support only
[18:54] <BarkingFish> oCean, I'm aware of that. I figured that the person I wanted might be here.
[18:54] <usr13> mordof: I asked him questions he could have answered with a simple yes or no.   Ok, I'm done with rhizome and his attitude.
[18:54] <Pici> BarkingFish: Hes usually in #ubuntu-community-team
[18:54] <BarkingFish> thanks Pici :)
[18:56] <BunnyLust> hey
[18:56] <hagus> http://www.pastie.org/2569948 glebihan
[18:56] <BunnyLust> updated from 9.10 to 10.04
[18:56] <BunnyLust> now I don't have sound
[18:56] <BunnyLust> where do I start to look for solutions?
[18:56] <F3ro> try 11+
[18:56] <BunnyLust> 11+?
[18:57] <scarleo> BunnyLust: I think you should probably add your user to audio group, logout and in again
[18:57] <BunnyLust> ok is that something that I can google how to do? :P
[18:58] <F3ro> yeah 11.04 is available now...
[18:58] <BunnyLust> don't want to bug you if it's obvious >.>
[18:58] <BunnyLust> oh
[18:58] <scarleo> BunnyLust: System Settings Users and Groups
[18:58] <BunnyLust> I want to upgrade to 11
[18:58] <glebihan> hagus, could you try "sudo apt-get install postgresql-common" and pastebin the output ?
[18:58] <BunnyLust> but I see no option for it
[18:58] <BunnyLust> scarleo: I'll try that now, thanks
[18:58] <usr13> BunnyLust: Run alsamixer first, and see if there are channels muted or turned down. And see if the correct audio device is quoted in upper left.
[18:59] <BunnyLust> alsamixer shows everything normally
[18:59] <usr13> BunnyLust: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp   #See if you get errors or if you hear the noise, (Ctrl-c to stop it)
[18:59] <BunnyLust> ok logging out
[18:59] <hagus> looks much the same as before, glebihan.  http://www.pastie.org/2569968
[19:00] <tuzlo> how does one set up a printer to be shared across a home network in Ubuntu?
[19:00] <BunnyLust> usr13: no errors, no noise
[19:01] <synackfin> how do I boot to console instead of boot to X ?
[19:01] <usr13> BunnyLust: CHeck to see if the speakers are plugged into correct port, or just switch ports and see if you get sound from another.
[19:01] <BunnyLust> speakers are internal - laptop
[19:01] <BunnyLust> scarleo: I did that, no joy
[19:01] <usr13> BunnyLust: Do you have external switch or volume control?
[19:02] <h00k> !text | synackfin
[19:02] <glebihan> hagus, looks like you have some faulty configuration files, maybe you could try "sudo apt-get purge postgresql postgresql-common postgresql-8.4" and then try to install again
[19:02] <BunnyLust> usr13: no, I don't think it's a hardware issue
[19:02] <BunnyLust> let me try some headphones
[19:02] <BunnyLust> nope, doesn't work with headphones, either
[19:02] <tyler_d> I am trying to get "atftpd" to start and cannot; not for lack of trying, anyone successful with this daemon?
[19:02] <BunnyLust> it happened right after the update, so I think it's related to that
[19:02] <mordof> ubun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1351375
[19:03] <F3ro> yeah prolly just a driver issue
[19:03] <BunnyLust> cool
[19:03] <usr13> BunnyLust: but if you ran  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  and got no error, and alsamixer shows correct device and nothing is muted or turned down, it appears the software is working as it should.
[19:03] <mordof> ubun: i'm not sure if that's your problem
[19:03] <BunnyLust> how should I go about fixing the driver if that is the issue?
[19:03] <scarleo> BunnyLust: Ok, could you try sudo modprobe -a snd_hda_intel
[19:03] <BunnyLust> usr13: it appears it's working, aside from it not playing anything :)
[19:04] <BluesKaj> BunnyLust, another thing , in alsamixer make sure none of the control boxes have Ms in them , use the M key to unmute
[19:04] <usr13> BunnyLust: Do have earphones?
[19:04] <BunnyLust> yes, I just tried them
[19:04] <BunnyLust> they don't work either
[19:04] <BunnyLust> scarleo: doesn't print anything
[19:04] <scarleo> BunnyLust: It shouldnt
[19:04] <scarleo> Does you sound work now?
[19:04] <usr13> BunnyLust: Yes, did you look for the M  or   MM  at the bottom of any of those channels?
[19:04] <BunnyLust> oh god I'm an idiot
[19:05] <BunnyLust> there were MM
[19:05] <F3ro> does anyone know of a way to mount an .iso file and play it?
[19:05] <BunnyLust> works now
[19:05] <tuzlo> how does one set up a printer to be shared across a home network in Ubuntu? Ubuntu detected and printed from it easily, I want to share it amongst other computers now
[19:05] <usr13> BunnyLust: There you go....
[19:05] <ubun> mordof: ill try that thanks
[19:05] <BunnyLust> thanks guys, orryabout the trouble :P
[19:05] <F3ro> hah! awesome!
[19:05] <hagus> glebihan, I did as you asked and then I reinstalled common http://www.pastie.org/2569988
[19:05] <usr13> F3ro: use the loop option.
[19:05] <F3ro> loop option?
[19:05] <hagus> So that looks different from what I was getting before anyway.
[19:06] <glebihan> hagus, looks like it worked
[19:06] <usr13> F3ro: mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /home/somebody/foobar.iso /mnt/cdrom
[19:06] <BunnyLust> I have some more questions if you guys don't mind
[19:06] <hagus> I take it that the rebuilding of dictionaries was a good sign.
[19:06] <BunnyLust> how would I go about using dual screens?
[19:06] <glebihan> hagus, try installing the postgresql package and see how it goes
[19:07] <BunnyLust> I've tried stuff before, but no good results
[19:07] <japro> hi, so apparently i'm to stupid to get to a console session
[19:07] <usr13> japro: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[19:07] <tuzlo> do I need Samba to share a printer?
[19:07]  * BluesKaj cdurses alsamixer default mute settings ...always a problem...wonder why the devs in all their wisdom would choose mute as a default setting. I'm constantly amazed at the negligence in this matter
[19:08] <usr13> tuzlo: With a MS Windows machine?  Yes.  With another Linux PC  no.
[19:08] <tuzlo> crap I hate Samba and windows
[19:08] <scarleo> BunnyLust: Whats your GPU?
[19:08] <hagus> glebihan: http://www.pastie.org/2570004 - I think it worked!
[19:08] <BunnyLust> Ati Radeon
[19:09] <mrstibbons> hi
[19:09] <BunnyLust> also I'd like to try XGL or something, but I don't have my heart set on it
[19:09] <glebihan> hagus, yep, it did
[19:09] <scarleo> BunnyLust: Sorry, no experience with that, just nvidia
[19:09] <usr13> tuzlo: Sorry, we can't fix your emotions.  :)
[19:09] <japro> usr13, hmm, ok what i actually want is shut down X
[19:09] <tuzlo> should I install samba or smbfs
[19:09] <BunnyLust> no worries, thanks anyway
[19:09] <hagus> Thank for all your help, glebihan :)
[19:09] <qin> japro: sudo service gdm stop
[19:09] <glebihan> hagus, you're welcome :)
[19:09] <Dan48p> Hi I am having trouble installing Ubuntu as a dual boot.  The installer does not recognize my windows 7 installation and says there is no operating system on the drive.  I
[19:09] <usr13> japro: sudo service gdm stop
[19:10] <japro> usr13, qin, thx
[19:10] <usr13> Dan48p: How many drives do you have in it?
[19:10] <mrstibbons> my girlfriend is running ubuntu 10.04 netbook edition and her internal microphone is not working in skype. funny thing is that i can hear her music and sound effect. sounds for me like the wrong signal is sended to skype and i am wondering where i can "rewire" it?
[19:10] <scarleo> Dan48p: It is correct, W7 is just a bad excuse for an OS ;)
[19:10] <Dan48p> user829385, just one
[19:11] <cvance> Hello, I was working with a company that had a really nice vnc access portal. Each workstation was running a little daemon. When the machine was on, it would connect to a central management server, and when IT wanted to remotely control a workstation, they would log into a web portal on the lan, and it would have a listing of all active computers on the network.
[19:11] <cvance> Does anyone know of a open source software which kinda does the same thing?
[19:12] <usr13> cvance: Well, you could just have launchers for each system  on your network.
[19:12] <cvance> usr13: can you elaborate a little bit more please?
[19:12] <Dan48p> scarleo, i have done this before and have not had any problems.  i usually shrink the windows partition from within windows and then the ubuntu installer allows me to install in the unallocated space.  This time however it does not recognize that anything is on the disk.  The same thing happens with debian and xubuntu installers.
[19:13] <qin> cvance: Machines can "register" on website using curl (any language would be ok).
[19:14] <scarleo> Dan48p: I know, I was just kidding, I've done it too although it was a long time ago. Not sure about how to fix your problem
[19:14] <usr13> cvance: Well, there are a number of ways you can do it, but if you have everyone on static IPs it would be easy to have launchers for each system, just hame them appropriately and click on the one you want and a VNC window just pops up.
[19:15] <cvance> usr13, yeah, I have static ip's assigned, I just being lazy and seeing if anyone knows of some neatly prepared package that does what i'm looking for.
[19:15] <usr13> cvance: I just use tightvnc  and   x11vnc
[19:15] <cvance> If not, no sweat, I can just run the servers and connect because I assigned static ips
[19:16] <cvance> I forgot what my last employer used, but it was kinda neat but very expensive.
[19:16] <F3ro> user13, it didn't work...
[19:16] <cvance> tightvnc or realvnc or ultravnc?
[19:16] <cvance> what do you guys like?
[19:17] <F3ro> is there a video player that wil play an iso straight fromthe hdd without making a disk?
[19:17] <usr13> cvance: I prefer just using IP addresses.  When I do Ctrl-F2 the run box comes up and when I type vn it autocompeltes to vncviewer 192.168.1.   and I just type in the last number or two and I'm there.
[19:17] <BluesKaj> F3ro, vlc
[19:17] <F3ro> vlc will do that?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:17] <F3ro> kewl, i will try it, tyvm
[19:17] <cvance> ah, i forgot to mention that I am running windows on the workstations
[19:18] <usr13> cvance: But if you like names instead of numbers, just fill in the hosts file with them and they can be c1, c2, c3, c4   etc.
[19:18] <scarleo> mrstibbons: install pavucontrol, on input pull right channel down to 0, untick allow skype to automatically adjust my volume settings in Skype settings
[19:18] <usr13> cvance: Doesn't matter.
[19:18] <cvance> I have the machines on my dns server, resolution is not a problem.
[19:18] <cvance> more like, I'm looking for suggestions. They would all work fine I think, but wanted a little opinion or two.
[19:18] <usr13> cvance: So just create launchers for each.
[19:19] <mrstibbons> scarleo, thanks
[19:19] <netman86> ubuntu using 100% cpu (process syslogd) after a recent upgrade. Is this a common issue?
[19:19] <usr13> cvance: Again, there are a number of ways to make it convenient and easy, just depends on how you like to do it, (and if you will always access them from the same PC or not).
[19:19] <bagels> where is my calibre program installed? I can't find the plugins folder
[19:20] <japro> so i tried to install cuda drivers on 11.04
[19:20] <usr13> netman86: Most likely not.
[19:20] <qin> bagels: dpkg -l calibre
[19:21] <qin> bagels: Also (may help): man calibre
[19:21] <japro> apparently removing nvidia-current wasn't enough
[19:21] <plouffe> I've had this behavior for a while now. My windows randomly switch focus. E.g. I am reading in the browser and suddenly a pdf pops to the foreground without me even touching the mouse or keyboard. Any ideas what's causing this?
[19:21] <scarleo> bagels: or: sudo updatedb && locate calibre
[19:21] <Hacker> ola
[19:21] <netman86> plouffe- are your hads over the keyboard?
[19:21] <plouffe> no
[19:21] <macer1> does sabdfl come on #ubuntu sometimes?
[19:21] <netman86> then I'm out of ideas
[19:21] <usr13> plouffe: Does this happen at any particular time of day?
[19:22] <plouffe> usr13, not aware of it, why?
[19:22] <usr13> plouffe: Do you have mischevious (teen-aged) childeren, or friends?
[19:22] <plouffe> usr13, I think it happens at any time
[19:22] <plouffe> usr13, no one else uses this computer
[19:23] <usr13> plouffe: One explanation is a cron job.  Look at crontab -l
[19:23] <qin> macer1: sabdfl has blog, if this help.
[19:23] <bagels> qin, scarleo, all I get is a list of files, or not the info I need.  There seems to be just a huge pile of folders.
[19:23] <plouffe> I made a cronjob for switching my wallpaper. But I've had this longer than the switching windows
[19:23] <macer1> qin: yes I know that
[19:23] <usr13> plouffe: Is it the same pdf file each time?
[19:24] <scarleo> bagels: ok, do locate calibre | grep plugin
[19:24] <plouffe> usr13, no, any windows, could be I'm reading a pdf and it pops up totem
[19:24] <scarleo> bagels: you were looking for the plugin folder, right?
[19:24] <bagels> scarleo, yes
[19:24] <aLeSD> hi all
[19:25] <aLeSD> I am cosing a software .. how to make it included in ubuntu repo ?
[19:25] <bagels> aha, there it is
[19:25] <bagels> tyvm
[19:25] <aLeSD> here I am
[19:25] <usr13> plouffe: What application comes up?  (I thought you said that a pdf file was being displayed on the screen.)
[19:25] <bagels> ^ scarleo
[19:25] <ubun> mordof: thank you so much. i fixed it. that link help solve part of it. then i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and bingo it worked thank you so much. (very valuable time saved)
[19:25] <scarleo> bagels: np
[19:25] <plouffe> usr13, it was an example. Basically randomly a window pops to the foreground
[19:25] <mordof> ubun: you're quite welcome :) i'm glad i could help ^-^
[19:26] <usr13> plouffe: That is not what you said at first.  You said that "a pdf pops to the foreground"
[19:26] <plouffe> usr13, I said "for example"
[19:31] <frhodes_> anyone know how to make w3m display images?
[19:32] <h00k> frhodes_: it doesn't, it's a text-based browser
[19:33] <warmax26> so i need some help
[19:33] <zebastianortis> problem i logged into linux and the wireless isnt working
[19:34] <io> frhodes_: it supports images on certain Terminals. h00k
[19:34] <zebastianortis> even if i plug it directly
[19:34] <io> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W3m, ask me no more
[19:34] <zebastianortis> the led light that indicates signal reading is red which should be blue
[19:34] <zebastianortis> if i press on the button itdoesnt change either
[19:34] <various> Whats better? running pvcreate on a partition "/dev/sda1" or on a whole disk "/dev/sda"?  Does anyone know?  And why?
[19:35] <ironhalik> Hmm, could someone tell me, why natty lost half it configs, themes and small things like theme notifiers after a casual reboot? :>
[19:35] <warmax26> so i installed ubuntu to my windows pc and i deleted the reg entry for wubi
[19:35] <warmax26> and now i want to uninstall it
[19:36] <warmax26> but im getting an error message saying that i need a disk in drive 1
[19:36] <h00k> frhodes_: apparently you can try w3m-img
[19:36] <warmax26> does anyone know what i can do?
[19:37] <SetiAmon> So what compiz doesn't come with ubuntu anymore?
[19:37] <Kaco> evening
[19:37] <Darkenvy> I have zip archives of daily backups. Is there a compression that will save the original + changes? (incrementally?)
[19:37] <xangua> SetiAmon: it does
[19:37] <F3ro> did u make a backup of ur windows hdd before you installed, ubuntu?
[19:37] <Kaco> Darkenvy: switch to macosx ;-)
[19:37] <warmax26> ummm
[19:37] <warmax26> maybe
[19:37] <Darkenvy> zip/rar simply throw everything into a file
[19:37] <SetiAmon> Xangua:were?
[19:37] <Darkenvy> kaco, I run osx, windows and linux.
[19:38] <Darkenvy> kaco my backups are of my game server
[19:38] <F3ro> u could just rstore ur backup and try again, or not...
[19:38] <warmax26> but if i try intalling wubi again will it recognize that its installed and that it needs to uninstall a previous version?
[19:38] <various> Darkenvy, look into rshapshot
[19:38] <warmax26> or does it need the reg entry to be able to do that
[19:38] <Kaco> Darkenvy, yeah i was joking, because that is what Time Machine does in macosx :)
[19:39] <F3ro> if u made a backup, it would still be there...
[19:39] <h00k> Darkenvy: consider checking out Deja Dup
[19:39] <Darkenvy> various this doesnt help because I already have the 400GB of abckup data to consolidate
[19:39] <h00k> !backup | Darkenvy
[19:40] <Darkenvy> hook dont call ubottu
[19:40] <Darkenvy> I already have the backup files!
[19:40] <various> lol
[19:40] <warmax26> im running windows now tho
[19:40] <Darkenvy> I am purging old information. I mean the game folder only increases by 4MB/day
[19:40] <warmax26> i need to uninstall ubuntu from my comp
[19:40] <F3ro> oic
[19:40] <various> Whats better? running pvcreate on a partition "/dev/sda1" or on a whole disk "/dev/sda"?  Does anyone know?  And why?
[19:41] <Darkenvy> thus, I should be able to only compress the first backup of the month and have the other 29 backups be only 4MB each
[19:41] <h00k> Darkenvy: yeah, you should check out duplicity or deja-dup, those backup systems will do differentials as well as encryption if you want
[19:41] <leeping> ls
[19:41] <leeping> oh sorry! :)
[19:41] <hook`> Darkenvy: ill call ubottu any time i want
[19:41] <Darkenvy> but those programs will only starting today. not consolidate my current files?
[19:41] <F3ro> do u not have ur ubuntu disk?
[19:41] <Darkenvy> thats obviously a different nick :P " hook' "
[19:42] <h00k> Darkenvy: correct
[19:42] <Darkenvy> :P
[19:42] <h00k> Darkenvy: or you could write your own rsync/tar.gz cronjob or something
[19:42] <Darkenvy> look im not interested in starting something new
[19:42] <Darkenvy> Im loooking for a compression tool to consolidate existing backups :S
[19:42] <BluesKaj> too many hooks spoil the fish'
[19:43] <Darkenvy> all these programs make new files from archives changing now :S
[19:43] <F3ro> tar won't do that?
[19:43] <Darkenvy> I think I tried tar
[19:44] <h00k> Darkenvy: check out the man page of tar, there's a differential flag
[19:44] <Darkenvy> and it didnt say 'hey both these files are only 4MB different! perhaps I should consoludate'
[19:44] <Darkenvy> do you know the flag h00k?
[19:45] <h00k> Darkenvy: -d will do diff, -A will append, -u will update
[19:45] <h00k> Darkenvy: check out the man page, you may find something there if that helps
[19:45] <Darkenvy> so ide probably: create tar with first file. add new file to tar with -d ?
[19:46] <F3ro> -r will append
[19:46] <Darkenvy> append isnt what needs to be done
[19:47] <Darkenvy> append would change the file to the new state
[19:47] <netman86> so we've got this ubuntu netbook recently updated from 9.x or 10.x to 11.04, and now whenever the rsyslog service starts it immediately eats as much available cpu cycles (all cores) as it can. Any thoughts?
[19:49] <h00k> Darkenvy: curiousity, would it be bad to start over with something like duplicity or dejadup?
[19:49] <h00k> Darkenvy: or you have some reason not to?
[19:49] <jams_> werd
[19:49] <Darkenvy> I have 8 months of abckups
[19:49] <h00k> Darkenvy: gotcha.
[19:49] <Darkenvy> I need to consoludate and keep these files (yes I go back t them sometimes)
[19:50] <Darkenvy> im reading the man of tar and -d seems like it only 'checks' for differences
[19:51] <Odaym> there's a problem with my sound..it just disappears sometimes, and I don't have the volume control icon on my panel ever since I purged pulseaudio, thinking it was causing this abrupt interruption in sound at random intervals
[19:51] <Odaym> I fell back on ALSA, but still the same problem
[19:51] <Odaym> and, there's no volume control applet in the gnome-applets either
[19:51] <Odaym> but I can access the sound from System > Preferences > Sound
[19:52] <Odaym> I press on Test Speakers and that application (for sound) crashes
[19:52] <Odaym> how primitive
[19:52] <Odaym> how...inferior
[19:55] <htpc> sup all
[19:55] <htpc> quick question
[19:55] <htpc> bluetooth + Plantronics Voyager Pro+
[19:55] <bagels> Can someone do me a favor?
[19:56] <PyDon> hi
[19:56] <PyDon> me too :)
[19:56] <aLeSD> hi
[19:56] <htpc> skype doesn't recognize device
[19:56] <aLeSD> how could I create a deb package from source code ?
[19:56] <PyDon> can anyone help me? how many bytes are 1 Kilobyte on CentOS?
[19:56] <htpc> using blueman
[19:56] <PyDon> or on Ubuntu
[19:56] <Pici> Aethec: Take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[19:57] <Pici> PyDon: The same number of bytes that are in any kilobyte.
[19:57] <io> aLeSD: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[19:57] <Pici> aLeSD: sorry, that was for you: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[19:57] <PyDon> so what value exactly?
[19:57] <io> :-)
[19:57] <llutz> PyDon: per definition a kilobyte is 1000 byte, kibibyte = 1024 byte
[19:57] <htpc> any clue ?
[19:57] <PyDon> llutz: yes, same on linux?
[19:57] <PyDon> i know windows fails here
[19:57] <Odaym> this is a better source, aLeSD : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=create+deb+package+from+source
[19:58] <llutz> PyDon: should be same
[19:58] <Pici> Odaym: No it isn't, and lgmtfy is not appreciated here.
[19:58] <PyDon> llutz: ok, great, thx
[19:58] <iceroot> PyDon: its always the same, the only problem is that some programs are showing KByte but mean KiByte
[19:59] <htpc> ?
[19:59] <PyDon> iceroot: yes..
[19:59] <PyDon> how would you handle this platform independent?
[19:59] <aLeSD> thanks
[19:59] <iceroot> PyDon: just use the standard
[19:59] <iceroot> PyDon: thats a reason a standard exist
[19:59] <htpc> aaaa this shit annoys me so bad
[20:00] <Pici> htpc: Please mind your language here.
[20:00] <Eddie> I just upgraded to natty, anyone know how I can ditch this whole new launcher etc and get my old panels / virtual desktops etc back?
[20:00] <pythonsnake> htpc: or you'll be banned.
[20:00] <htpc> my bad /b/ro
[20:00] <Pici> !classic | Eddie
[20:00] <pythonsnake> Eddie: yes
[20:00] <pythonsnake> Eddie: at login screen
[20:00] <iceroot> PyDon: but a file is not bigger on linux than on windows or the other way (but there are differences when using different filesystems)
[20:00] <htpc> im just so angry when things don't work as they're desinged t
[20:00] <PyDon> sure...
[20:00] <iceroot> PyDon: or different block-sizes
[20:00] <Eddie> Thanks folks, feels a little too netbookish for my taste
[20:00] <PyDon> yeap
[20:01] <lloowen_> Hello all. I have a live cd of Kubuntu 10.04. Is there a way I can install this using the cli only? I don't have a monitor for my pc just an old TV so the graphical install does not work. If I can install it using the cli, then I can install nvidia and hey presto! I cannot get the nvidia driver to work on the latest kubuntu or xubuntu :(
[20:01] <PyDon> I just wonder if I display the amount of used memory on windows and Linux
[20:01] <PyDon> the windows app show the same as linux, but on both systems the mean something diffferent
[20:01] <htpc> k
[20:01] <htpc> im out for a sec
[20:01] <htpc> reboot
[20:01] <pythonsnake> lloowen_: search for cli kubuntu installer
[20:02] <PyDon> so if there is " 3.5 GB" in memory.. the most people might think that their computer runs out of memory
[20:02] <PyDon> even there are real 500 MB left
[20:02] <warmax26> i have a question
[20:02] <iceroot> !ram | PyDon
[20:02] <pythonsnake> !ask | warmax26
[20:02] <warmax26> if i delete the ubuntu folder that contains ubuntu on my windows 7 computer will that get rid of ubuntu?
[20:03] <pythonsnake> sure
[20:03] <PyDon> iceroot: yes, for sure, i Know
[20:03] <PyDon> -K + k
[20:03] <PyDon> just for users
[20:03] <warmax26> wait so if i just delete the folder it will be gone?
[20:03] <pythonsnake> warmax26: the question is stupid - will you delete ubuntu if you delete ubuntu ?
[20:03] <pythonsnake> warmax26: delete root = no more ubuntu
[20:04] <warmax26> ok
[20:04] <iceroot> warmax26: maybe the wubi-bootloader still exists, i dont know wubi very well
[20:04] <zykotick9> warmax26, you probably want to use the Uninstall tool to get rid of bootloader etc.
[20:04] <iceroot> warmax26: if you are talking about wubu
[20:04] <warmax26> i deleted the reg entry
[20:04] <iceroot> wubi
[20:04] <warmax26> so wubi doesnt know its there
[20:04] <warmax26> and i cant use the unintaller because theres no reg entry
[20:05] <warmax26> i get an error saying that i need to insert disk
[20:05] <warmax26> so where do i go to get rid of the bootloader
[20:05] <pythonsnake> warmax26: hmm.
[20:05] <pythonsnake> rm -rf /boot
[20:06] <Myrtti> er, no
[20:06] <zykotick9> warmax26, ask in ##windows how to reinstall the MS bootloader
[20:06] <warmax26> ok
[20:06] <StuhrM> sweet
[20:07] <Pici> warmax26: It should just be as easy as removing the entry from the Windows bootloader, but I forget where that menu is these days.
[20:07] <warmax26> yea
[20:07] <warmax26> if i knew i could do it
[20:07] <pythonsnake> no one here use google ? :/
[20:08] <warmax26> lol
[20:08] <Pici> pythonsnake: This is a support channel, we're here to solve support questions, not point people to a search engine.
[20:09] <pythonsnake> at least search a bit before asking
[20:09] <warmax26> problem is
[20:09] <warmax26> my problem is unique
[20:10] <llutz> everbodies problem is ...
[20:10] <warmax26> not always
[20:10] <synackfin> how do I get dpkg to display the time the package was installed?
[20:10] <unk> @unknown_huk: hey
[20:11] <unknown_huk> @unk: hey
[20:11] <zykotick9> synackfin, see if the package is listed in No video cards found..
[20:11] <zykotick9> synackfin, sorry paste fail there - check /var/log/dpkg.log
[20:11] <WinDu1965> hello, i installed Ubuntu 10.04 on a HP Elitebook 6930p, but on playing video, i get a audio error, "failed to initialize audio device"  need some help with this please
[20:11] <SetiAmon> is there a reason ubuntu software center keeps coming up as a grey box
[20:11] <synackfin> zykotick9: thanks
[20:12] <complexity> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
[20:12] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: whay app ?
[20:12] <complexity> anyone have any ideas how to get that video card working better
[20:12] <complexity> i can't even get in full screen
[20:12] <pythonsnake> !details | WinDu1965
[20:12] <neverblue> i would like to copy the contents of PCs/Macs HDs to a network location, can I do that with a Live Ubuntu USB stick ? is there an easier method ?
[20:13] <SetiAmon> Complexity:activate restricted drivers
[20:13] <japro> so the program i'm trying to run fails to open "libcudart.so.4" which is in /usr/local/cuda/lib
[20:13] <complexity> SetiAmon, how so?
[20:13] <japro> so i added that to LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[20:14] <japro> but it still doesn't find it
[20:14] <japro> do i have to set some right's so it can use the lib?
[20:14] <SetiAmon> System,admin,drivers
[20:14] <complexity> everything has changed so much
[20:14] <SetiAmon> System,administration,drivers
[20:14] <SetiAmon> I should say
[20:14] <complexity> i think i checked that already and had nothing
[20:14] <SetiAmon> so far i think ubuntu is a regression
[20:14] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake , with any app, tried vlc, dragonplayer, XMBC
[20:15] <complexity> SetiAmon, no proprietary drivers are in use on this system, and I can't enable them
[20:15] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: mplayer ?
[20:15] <pythonsnake> wait..
[20:15] <pythonsnake> try aslamixer
[20:15] <ScatterBrain>  I just updated my laptop with the newest Kernel - came in as a software update.  When I rebooted, EVERYTHING is slower now.  Booting, Starting Gnome everything except for typing is slower.  Anyone know of a problem with the newest kernel?
[20:16] <htpc> sup all
[20:16] <sphearion> anyone here familiar with Tesseract-ocr?
[20:16] <htpc> did anybody got Plantronics Voyager Plus working with Skype ?
[20:17] <SetiAmon> Complexity:what graphics card?nividia?
[20:17] <SetiAmon> so far i think ubuntu has been regressing since jaunty
[20:17] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: what is your audio card?
[20:17] <ikonia> SetiAmon: you've said that, do you need technal support or are you just going to keep repeating that
[20:17] <complexity> SetiAmon, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
[20:18] <Jcook_5xData> complexity, this may help you http://janvandevoort.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/ubuntu-9-10-with-vga-intel-82845gglbrookdale-gge/
[20:18] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake, hang on, need to check this
[20:18] <SetiAmon> sorry been up for more then 24 stright.Didn't realize i said it once
[20:18] <SetiAmon> thought i was just thinking it
[20:18] <SetiAmon> at least i got my graphics issues resolved.now i got to fix the sound.sound plays then echos/static/distortions
[20:19] <solderman> just testing new package and apps
[20:19] <BarkingFish> SetiAmon, You'll probably think a lot more clearly if you go and get some sleep :)  Nobody works well under pressure, especially when they're tired!
[20:19] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake: a ADI SoundMAX AD1984A
[20:20] <SetiAmon> I'm On afterburn right now.
[20:20] <SetiAmon> its how i learn best
[20:20] <SetiAmon> So sound plays,but then there is a hanging on,like distortion/echo effect that echo's on for awhile.anyone know how i can fix this
[20:20] <SetiAmon> X-FI soundcard
[20:20] <warmax26> allright
[20:20] <monkd> hi, I installed postfix + dovecot. I can receive emails but not send them. i got 250-starttls and 250-auth plain login when I ran telnet localhost 25, ehlo localhost
[20:20] <warmax26> so the ##windows ppl helped me out
[20:20] <monkd> what's the problem?
[20:21] <Myrtti> warmax26: awesome
[20:21] <Pici> warmax26: good to hear
[20:21] <netman86> does anyone know offhand what $klogpath is in /etc/rsyslog.conf?
[20:21] <warmax26> i deleted the entry from the bootloader
[20:21] <neverblue> if you run Ubuntu in VMware, can you install the tools ?
[20:22] <Jcook_5xData> monkd, what ISP you on?
[20:22] <monkd> Jcook_5xData: sonera in finland
[20:22] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: maybe module?
[20:23] <Jcook_5xData> monkd, more then likely you ISP is blocking smtp port
[20:23] <monkd> Jcook_5xData: so I should change the p25 to something else?
[20:23] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake: how do you mean
[20:23] <new2net> my ISP blocking stuff.... better not be
[20:23] <Jcook_5xData> monkd, try this http://bookmarks.honewatson.com/2008/04/20/postfix-gmail-smtp-relay/
[20:24] <Jcook_5xData> I have to because comcast block that port
[20:24] <sam555> hello all!
[20:25] <sam555> trying to find better instructions then here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN on how to actually use openvpn
[20:25] <sam555> it stops at creating the client
[20:27] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: do you have asla driver?
[20:29] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake: dont know
[20:29] <Ziber> I'm running into a problem with apparmor, despite having uninstalled it its still complaining about not letting bind write to its master zone files
[20:30] <Ziber> http://paste.ziber.org/64467
[20:30] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake: have bien looking on the net found a page ons this, with a solution    sudo echo "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[20:30] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: it worked ?
[20:31] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake: nope, -bash: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf: Permission denied
[20:32] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: try with su
[20:32] <cpglsn> hi again, i'm in remote with ssh. Can you tell me the package name of nvidia drivers ?
[20:32] <pythonsnake> su
[20:32] <pythonsnake> put your pass
[20:32] <pythonsnake> and echo foobar
[20:33] <Ziber> I'm running into a problem with apparmor, despite having uninstalled it its still complaining about not letting bind write to its master zone files. Error: http://paste.ziber.org/64467
[20:33] <WinDu1965> ikonia ???
[20:33] <edbian> cpglsn: there are many: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=all&suite=natty&section=all
[20:34] <Ziber> I'm on ubuntu 11.04, server.