[12:54] <crimsun> puro: what's the output in a Terminal from ``mount |head -1'' ?
[12:54] <hhurtta> anonym001: configure wine to use something like ~/.wine/c_drive as C-drive and then install the program (weaverslave)
[12:55] <hhurtta> using wine
[12:55] <Nyven> I am using a KVM, when I plug a screen directly intot he pc and boot it it works, but when I use the kvm, it doesn't work
[12:55] <hone> I'm having problems booting into my custom kernel on my desktop, it gives me the kernel panic vfs error
[12:55] <hhurtta> even this doesn't guarantee that it will actually work :/
[12:55] <anonym001> ok
[12:55] <TengkSA> ANYONE?
[12:55] <puro> crimsun, do i have to type that in terminal?
[12:55] <Nyven> mwe: after the bios screen, the grub text menu come up and it boot normally...
[12:56] <Myrtti> TengkSA: msconfig?
[12:56] <mwe> Nyven: ok. great
[12:56] <crimsun> puro: well yes, that's why I asked...
[12:56] <TengkSA> THANK YOU!!
[12:56] <Myrtti> np
[12:56] <puro> ok sorry hold on let me check
[12:56] <Nyven> mwe: so it seem the grub might have abug there
[12:57] <TengkSA> what is the site for recovering ubuntu after installing windows
[12:57] <Nyven> mwe: it seems to not be able to detect the correct settings on this KVM with
[12:57] <alexissoft> hi
[12:57] <anonym001> hhurtta, maybee you can say me where i can find the configuration file?
[12:57] <mwe> Nyven: yeah. that'll not be the first grub bug.
[12:57] <apokryphos> TengkSA: /msg ubotu grub
[12:57] <Nyven> mwe: although other machine I have installed worked without any issues...
[12:58] <Nyven> :)
[12:58] <anonym001> or how to find out myself..
[12:58] <mwe> Nyven: really. I heard a lot about grub not being that great
[12:58] <olicat> any ideas what software i can use for creating hd images and moving them using scp/
[12:58] <hhurtta> anonym001: probably in .wine
[12:58] <olicat> i'm trying systemrescue cd, but it doesn't boot for some reason
[12:59] <Nyven> mwe: it does seem a lot better then lilo though
[12:59] <kemik> olicat:  got scp working now?
[12:59] <puro> i typed it in but nothing happens
[12:59] <mwe> Nyven: yeah
[12:59] <olicat> kemik, yeah i had to use scp from outside the network :)
[12:59] <Inf3ctedFx> any phone internet services beside Skype and Gizmo Project?
[12:59] <puro> it says invalid option
[12:59] <kemik> olicat:  yeah.. or use the real port inside the network
[12:59] <puro> mount [head-1]
[12:59] <crimsun> puro: don't type the `s or 's; I use those to indicate a command that you should type in a Terminal
[12:59] <puro> is that it?
[01:00] <crimsun> puro: no, type precisely what I put in the `s and 's
[01:00] <Nyven> mwe: thank you very much for all the help
[01:00] <crimsun> puro: mount |head -1
[01:00] <hhurtta> anonym001: if i recall correctly wine will create a configuration template by itself it doesnt find it
[01:00] <ompaul> crimsun, I find that >>>foo<<< tends to get people to do the right thing :-)
[01:01] <anonym001> hmm
[01:01] <ilba7r> inf2ctedfx look up qnext but you can not use it for pc to phone only audio vedio conf and file sharing
[01:02] <munzir> mwe: no I don't get connect refused but still my maillog shows stat=Service
[01:02] <munzir> unavailable
[01:02] <puro> /dev/hda1 on /type ext (rw,errors=remount-ro) this is what i get
[01:03] <crimsun> puro: ok, now pastebin the output from ``sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda''
[01:03] <IgorVovchanchin> Can someone help me with problem considering compiling sources?
[01:04] <puro> ok one sec
[01:04] <hhurtta> IgorVovchanchin: tell your problem and we'll see :)
[01:04] <IgorVovchanchin> I've done as the manual suggested, and ran ./configure in order to configure the compile, and then simply inputting "make" (as manual suggests), but it keeps yelling me something about "No makefile found", or "No rule to make file" or something
[01:05] <IgorVovchanchin> after running the configures, it says at the bottom of the check list, that c++ compiler cannot make executables, and I've already installed gcc
[01:05] <crimsun> IgorVovchanchin: you need to install 'build-essential'
[01:05] <IgorVovchanchin> ok
[01:06] <puro> o.k i posted it under the name Puro
[01:07] <puro> another thing is my laptop have a built in media card reader and is not working anyway to get that fixed?
[01:07] <IgorVovchanchin> Now it yelled something about "Qt's moc not found"...is that something crucial?
[01:08] <crimsun> puro: ok, so you have 2 GB swap partition
[01:08] <IgorVovchanchin> And it still cannot seem to find the makefile to be made
[01:08] <puro> do i need them?
[01:08] <crimsun> puro: now pastebin the output from ``df -h''
[01:08] <Seveas> !tell IgorVovchanchin about compiling
[01:08] <hhurtta> IgorVovchanchin: you're missing qt:s dev packages
[01:08] <crimsun> puro: the media card reader may be supported; look on the forum
[01:08] <IgorVovchanchin> hhurtta, where do I get them?
[01:08] <Seveas> IgorVovchanchin, read what ubotu sent you
[01:09] <IgorVovchanchin> ok
[01:09] <hhurtta> try synaptic :)
[01:09] <teunnijssen_>  /msg nickserv link teunnijssen teun*zelf
[01:09] <Seveas> teunnijssen_, /msg nickserv set password new_password
[01:09] <puro> ok i posted it-i have searched the forums but i have not found any kind of solution for the media reader
[01:10] <hhurtta> !tell me about compiling
[01:10] <hhurtta> hmm.
[01:10] <hhurtta> !tell hhurtta about compiling
[01:10] <Seveas> hhurtta, /msg ubotu compiling
[01:10] <vik> I've just recovered from a major HD failure, moved my (hopefully not too corrupted) data onto another drive, reinstalled grub, and now the boot process hangs when trying to load modules.
[01:10] <hhurtta> Seveas: ubotu already told me :)
[01:10] <crimsun> puro: 1.8 GB used. That looks just dandy.
[01:12] <puro> ok so ubuntu used only 1.8gb for the entire installation? theres like 8gb missing am i right? since i have a 80gb
[01:12] <nathanj> whats the osx like launch bar for linux called?
[01:12] <wizardjames> puro
[01:12] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone knows what is Linspire?
[01:12] <aftertaf> nathanj:  engage  (e17)
[01:12] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, a crappy linux distro that does not care about security
[01:12] <puro> yes
[01:12] <wizardjames> if u have a 80 gig hdd, only around 75-70 us REAL useable.  i got a 250 gig hdd and i only got 232 gigs useable
[01:13] <Inf3ctedFx> oks Seveas  xD
[01:13] <puro> ok cool thanks alot
[01:13] <puro> now to find how to get my card reader working
[01:13] <puro> and how to run on the light on my wifi button
[01:13] <strider> So who's compiled the new kernel ;)
[01:13] <puro> i have a long way to go
[01:14] <nathanj> aftertaf: what about for gnome?
[01:14] <app> I just ran updatedb, but I still can not locate NTFS files on /media/hda1, why?
[01:14] <wizardjames> !mount nfts
[01:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, wizardjames
[01:14] <wizardjames> blah
[01:15] <selinium> I have been waiting for some updates to show their changes for about a week now, as far as I can see I have nothing strange in my repos.  The change versions look strange as well. 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1  appears on all the upgrades without a change record. All updates regard php.
[01:15] <puro> what is the best wireless network manager for ubuntu?
[01:15] <nathanj> aftertaf: is there a e17 deb soucre?
[01:16] <BockBilbo> !Linspire
[01:16] <ubotu> No idea, BockBilbo
[01:16] <app> wizardjames, my ntfs disk is perfectly browsable and mounted
[01:16] <ompaul> nathanj, >>sudo apt-get source foo<< as long a you have the repos enabled
[01:17] <app> !mount nfs
[01:17] <ubotu> Not a clue, app
[01:17] <ompaul> !nfs
[01:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:17] <Nyven> has anyone had a problem with qpopper , where all messages are duplicated when retrived fro the pop3 account?
[01:17] <nathanj> ompaul: i wanbt a src :)
[01:17] <zorba64> !ntfs
[01:17] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[01:18] <ompaul> nathanj, enable the repos to do so - use syanptic to do it
[01:18] <app> !mount ntfs
[01:18] <ubotu> app: Not a clue
[01:18] <ompaul> app, !ntfs
[01:18] <app> !ntfs
[01:18] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[01:18] <nathanj> ompaul: i am lookinf for a repos address :)
[01:19] <hhurtta> nice flooding, app :)
[01:19] <ompaul> nathanj, it is the same as you have but the source one - read your sources.list deb-src instead of deb at the line for the repo
[01:19] <vik> I've moved ubuntu from one drive to another, though have kept the root partition on hda2 after the move. I've moved the swap from hda3 to hda5, and hda3 is an extended partition. Now I get a kernel panic mentioning hda3 (entire message is pasted on pastebin). ideas?
[01:20] <bgrah> someone here who knows how to use nic with EEPROM to boot over network from an LTSP
[01:20] <Myrtti> which pastebin
[01:20] <vik> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:20] <selinium> Seveas, Can you comment on my package problem, as you know the motu better than me? :)
[01:21] <usuario1> Hola... Hay alguien aqu?
[01:21] <selinium> usuario1, !es
[01:21] <selinium> !es
[01:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:22] <Nyven> Which popper is the best to use with ubunto, i see that qpopper is not one of the default ones...
[01:22] <usuario1> Alguien que hable castellano?
[01:22] <zorba64> vik: can you post your fstab too?
[01:23] <selinium> ajmitch: Can you answer my package problem, being the motu guru that you are? :)
[01:23] <roland> help please.. on my fujitsu-siemens Amilo A-series laptop with ATI IGP 320 motherboard-integrated graphics, when i install Kubuntu (or Ubuntu) 5.10 all goes well until the X server/gdm must start and then the screen goes black and nothing happens.. I cant even kill the x server i must restart the computer.I tried to boot in text-mode recovery and tried to start the x server from the prompt and it said: cannot start x server: missing output drive
[01:23] <roland> so i cant use X
[01:23] <vik> zorba64: umm, in windows right now; that might be tricky - I'm pretty certain there's nothing pointing to any untoward devices
[01:24] <anonym001> hhurtta, i just discoverd the tool winecfg .. but it crashes like wine, too :(
[01:24] <Nyven> roland: I saw some stuff regarding X and laptops on the FAQ on the ubunto help pages
[01:24] <usuario1> Me he equivocado de chat o es que los que hablan castellano estn equivocados?
[01:24] <apokryphos> usuario1: this is quite clearly an English-speaking channel.
[01:24] <ompaul> roland, when the machine boots to the black screen press Ctrl+Alt+F1 at the same time log in there - at the command line type the following command >>>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<< that may help some
[01:25] <ompaul> !es
[01:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:25] <ompaul> usuario1,  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^66
[01:25] <vik> what's the nicest ext2 reader for windows 2000?
[01:25] <selinium> anonym001, hhurtta I used the wiki to install wine, it worked. But i have also used crossover office to install windows apps aswell. But Crossover Office isn't free but you do get a 30 day trail.
[01:25] <usuario1> ubotu, por favor, me podras decir como hago para sar ubuntu-es como chat.
[01:25] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, usuario1
[01:26] <anonym001> selinium, i have done what the wiki says ..
[01:26] <Hendikins> selinium: You can use it for free if you become a CW advocate though, which is nice of them.
[01:26] <ompaul> usuario1,     >>>>>/join #ubuntu-es<<<<<<<<<
[01:27] <selinium> Hendikins, Thanks for the pointer! :)
[01:27] <Hendikins> selinium: I'm a paying customer and an advocate. Just another way my Firefox involvement ties in elsewhere.
[01:28] <zorba64> vik: explore2fs works well
[01:28] <selinium> Hendikins, Cool,  I must admit the only reason I use Crossover is for testing on IE. As soon as everyone is using a sensible browser I will be rid of it! :)
[01:28] <Seveas> !no ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com.
[01:28] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[01:28] <Seveas> It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[01:28] <Seveas> !no ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[01:28] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[01:28] <Hendikins> selinium: heh.
[01:30] <Hendikins> selinium: I do user support for one so-called "sensible" browser. It is a real eye opener :P
[01:31] <selinium> Hendikins, FF is the way to go for me :)
[01:31] <viyyer> I did a apt-dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy using the brezy install CD , my mozilla thuder bird and firefox text rendering has completely borked
[01:31] <policrates> hola
[01:32] <viyyer> s/apt-dist-upgrade/apt-get dist-upgrade breezy
[01:32] <selinium> !es
[01:32] <policrates> alguien sabe si el edubuntu esta en espaol
[01:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:32] <Seveas> policrates, #edubuntu-es
[01:32] <policrates> gracias
[01:33] <vik> zorba64: have pasted fstab to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6592.
[01:33] <lioda> Hi
[01:33] <selinium> Seveas, Maybe change the !es to include the edubuntu one?
[01:33] <apokryphos> selinium: go for it
[01:33] <selinium> apokryphos, I dont know how! :)
[01:34] <lioda> I would like to know if somebody have a problem of refresh with background under Drake PPC ?
[01:34] <selinium> apokryphos, Just looking...
[01:34] <vik> zorba64: but the scary thing is that explore2fs things hda3 is an ext3 partition. I think I used parted to create them.
[01:34] <lioda> And gnome
[01:34] <apokryphos> selinium: /msg ubotu help  ...on how to add factoids. To alter them, simply follow the form   "no, x is somethingelse"
[01:34] <Seveas> !es =~ s/ o #kubuntu-es/, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es/
[01:34] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[01:35] <apokryphos> selinium: don't ruin it for him!
[01:35] <apokryphos> *Seveas
[01:35] <selinium> Seveas, got there first! :)
[01:36] <selinium> As always.... lol
[01:36] <JoeBlow> in case anyone cares, i got wine installed, the problem was, it just wont do it under 64 bit ubuntu
[01:36] <apokryphos> it is possible, but ubuntu packs just weren't built for it
[01:36] <Myrridin> Does anyone had success installing Breezy or dapper on a HP Pavillion AMD64 system using S-ATA disks(more specific, t3260.se model)? For me it does not find S-ATA disks. Even when loading correct S-ATA module.
[01:37] <zorba64> vik: what is hda3 supposed to be...the partition tabls sounds like it might be screwed
[01:37] <anonym001> how to find out which ubuntu version i do have ?
[01:37] <vik> zorba64: hda3 is the extended partition holding hda5 hda6 and hda7
[01:37] <mwe> anonym001: cat /etc/issue
[01:37] <anonym001> ty
[01:37] <Seveas> anonym001, cat /etc/lsb-release
[01:38] <zorba64> vik: does sudo cfdisk give you a table printout?
[01:38] <taomaster> is there a way to auto-install java?
[01:38] <apokryphos> taomaster: /msg ubotu javadebs
[01:38] <zorba64> !java
[01:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:39] <vik> zorba64: gonna have to reboot - is there anything else I should try while in linux-land?
[01:39] <zorba64> vik: sudo cfdisk
[01:40] <amin2> Hi, anyone with Ubutnu+NFS experince?
[01:40] <lowman62> does anyone in here know about gateway profile 2 computers, intel onboard network cards with pci bridges and what you need to do to get them to work with ubuntu?
[01:40] <amin2> I'm using Ubuntu with Fedora Core as NFS server, add faced some probs
[01:40] <lowman62> any help would be appreciated :)
[01:41] <JoeBlow> lowman62: I have had no luck with that, my wife had that as well and it just didnt work, we ended up buying a 10 dollar nic and it worked fine
[01:42] <davidwinter> hi all. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop. My internal CD drive is busted, so I've bought an external CD-drive (USB2). I'm trying to boot the CD, but nothings happening. My Windows install is broke, so I'm just left with 'Error loading operating system' all the time.
[01:42] <davidwinter> Any suggestions?
[01:42] <lowman62> ya that is what i am afraid of...i never bought this thing...would never be so lame...was tossed in my lap...anyways thank you i appreciate the help very much
[01:43] <mwe> davidwinter: but the drive works. it just can't boot? if so use boot floppies
[01:44] <davidwinter> I don't haveafloppy drive on the laptop :(
[01:44] <davidwinter> yeah, the external drive works fine.
[01:44] <mwe> davidwinter: you need a bootable device
[01:44] <davidwinter> in the bios, I have 'removable drives' set as the first boot item
[01:45] <mwe> davidwinter: it's not unusual for usb drives to be unbootable
[01:45] <davidwinter> :( damn.
[01:45] <davidwinter> hmmm...
[01:45] <davidwinter> how about an iPod Nano?
[01:45] <Nyven> I just installed qpopper and I can't connect to port 110
[01:45] <Nyven> it is in the inetd.conf
[01:46] <Nyven> and i have ALL: qpopper in my host.allow...
[01:46] <davidwinter> besides my iPod, I don't have any other devices I can think of to use
[01:46] <Nyven> what i am missing ?
[01:46] <aftertaf> nathanj:  sort of...
[01:46] <davidwinter> unless I buy a bootable usb cd-drive somewhere
[01:46] <aftertaf> nathanj:  for the e thing (like 3 hours later ... ;)   )
[01:47] <mwe> Nyven: maybe a firewall issue?
[01:47] <Nyven> no fw installed yet
[01:47] <Nyven> i am trying to telnet to <IP_ADDRESS> 110
[01:47] <spiekey> hello!
[01:47] <Ng> Nyven: <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:47] <ompaul> !hello
[01:47] <spiekey> is there a way to change a existing debian installation to ubuntu?
[01:47] <ubotu> ompaul: I haven't a clue
[01:47] <Ng> that's not really a valid IP address ;)
[01:48] <Nyven> I also tried <IP_ADDRESS> and the static IP
[01:48] <ompaul> Nyven, <IP_ADDRESS> is your own machine
[01:48] <Nyven> I usually use <IP_ADDRESS> and it works
[01:48] <davidwinter> is it possible that I could install ubuntu over my network?
[01:48] <Nyven> it works is I telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 25
[01:48] <Ng> Nyven: if you can't even connect to port 110 on <IP_ADDRESS> then I would suggest that the pop3 server isn't running on your machine
[01:48] <aftertaf> spiekey:  possibly. change the sources.list to ubuntu & update
[01:49] <JoeBlow> ok i installed wine, now how do it use?
[01:49] <JoeBlow> do i use it*
[01:49] <ompaul> spiekey, what version of debian is it?
[01:49] <aftertaf> lol JoeBlow you read the webpage...
[01:49] <aftertaf> JoeBlow:  better to use linux than windows/wine though!
[01:49] <pi9inE> hi all
[01:49] <pi9inE> may I have question
[01:50] <aftertaf> top of the new year to ya ompaul :]
[01:50] <GoGi> How can I build all the ubuntu packages from source?
[01:50] <ompaul> !ask
[01:50] <wizardjames> i just installed apache and mysql.    now..i am wondering what would be the ftp stuff to look into the files?
[01:50] <mwe> Nyven: is the qpopper daemon running?
[01:50] <ompaul> !tell pi9inE about ask
[01:50] <pi9inE> ok, I got laptop and 2 partions on it
[01:50] <pi9inE> at 1st is WIN XP
[01:50] <Seveas> GoGi, why would you want that?
[01:50] <pi9inE> if I format 2nd one with FAT32
[01:50] <pi9inE> will be possible to
[01:50] <ompaul> pi9inE, put it all on one line please
[01:50] <pi9inE> to install ubuntu there?
[01:50] <spiekey> aftertaf: possibly?
[01:50] <pi9inE> ompaul: i'm sorry
[01:50] <aftertaf> pi9inE:  no! ext 2/3
[01:50] <Seveas> pi9inE, no, ubuntu will not install on fat32
[01:50] <ompaul> aftertaf, same to u
[01:51] <spiekey> ompaul: its sarge
[01:51] <mwe> Nyven: sudo netstat -ntlp to confirm it's running on port 110
[01:51] <pi9inE> Seveas: how then?
[01:51] <Seveas> pi9inE, ext3
[01:51] <EerieShadow> hi and happy new year
[01:51] <Nyven> mwe: not there...
[01:51] <Nyven> mwe: it is in the inetd.conf thought...
[01:51] <mwe> Nyven: then that's the problem. it's not running
[01:51] <pi9inE> Seveas: I'm sorry, I'm noob, can you inform me a lil bit more?
[01:51] <ompaul> spiekey, yeap it should work, dist-upgrade to breezy
[01:52] <spiekey> ompaul: by just changing the sources?
[01:52] <Seveas> pi9inE, ext3 is a filesystem format like fat32, linux uses ext3
[01:52] <ompaul> spiekey, it should
[01:52] <pi9inE> Seveas: ok and will linux create it by itself when I will insert boot CD?
[01:52] <ompaul> spiekey, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:52] <mwe> Nyven: nothing is on port 110 ?
[01:52] <Seveas> pi9inE, yes
[01:52] <EerieShadow> what would a very good project management app be in ubuntu?
[01:52] <pi9inE> Seveas: OK, thanks
[01:52] <chp> excuse me, after I compiled emacs 21.4, why can't I have a X window frame?
[01:53] <apokryphos> does anyone have any idea for why apache would be trying to send packets to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:53] <Nyven> mwe: nope, thing
[01:53] <mwe> EerieShadow: what kind of project?
[01:53] <ompaul> apokryphos, cache
[01:53] <vik> zorba64: (c)fdisk runs fine.
[01:53] <Nyven> mwe: i also can't find an init.d script for inetd
[01:53] <apokryphos> snort considers it "offensive" (and the network I'm on uses snort), so it has bad consequences for me.. i.e. me getting banned
[01:53] <EerieShadow> consulting
[01:53] <Seveas> apokryphos, because you connected to localhost?
[01:53] <GoGi> Seveas: To be able to continue or at least pass ubuntu on after I'm the only survivor of some nuclear war or whatever
[01:53] <Seveas> hehe
[01:53] <mwe> Nyven: qpopper probably provides an /etc/init.d/ script
[01:53] <apokryphos> ompaul: it uses it to build a cache?
[01:53] <Seveas> GoGi, apt-get build-dep $package && apt-get -b source $package
[01:54] <EerieShadow> mwe: for consulting if possible
[01:54] <apokryphos> Seveas: huh? Why would it need to use that? I've just heard that kubuntu/debian sometimes misconfigures lo so apache/sendmail send packs to <IP_ADDRESS>, too
[01:54] <ompaul> apokryphos, are you using it for a proxy or cache or something like that
[01:54] <chp> excuse me, after I compiled emacs 21.4, why can't I have a X window frame????
[01:54] <apokryphos> how can I disable it?
[01:54] <pi9inE> Seveas: and if I will decide later to format my HDD to normal NTFS for windows only, will Windows bootable cd recognize that linux partion?
[01:54] <apokryphos> it'd be nice to run apache here
[01:54] <puro> can somebody please help me with finding out how to have my wifi led on-
[01:54] <apokryphos> ompaul: nope, just a http server.
[01:54] <ompaul> apokryphos, then no idea
[01:54] <wizardjames> after installing apache, how would someone look at my files with ftp?
[01:55] <Seveas> pi9inE, no idea
[01:55] <Seveas> wizardjames, not
[01:55] <Seveas> apache is not an ftp server
[01:55] <flogiston> I installed Xfce and now i don't need gnome anymore. Is there any risk to uninstall the gnome-desktop?
[01:55] <pi9inE> anyone got idea if it will?
[01:55] <wizardjames> well..   what is?
[01:55] <googlah> can somebody please answer a quick question about ndiswrapper?
[01:55] <pi9inE> it's quite important to me, to know
[01:55] <Seveas> flogiston, no
[01:55] <Nyven> mwe: Nope, no qpopper script either, it looks like qpopper only appended an entry to the inetd.conf and that is why the file exists. I will have a look and see it inetd is actually installed.
[01:55] <Seveas> wizardjames, vsftpd
[01:55] <flogiston> Okey then il go fore that.
[01:55] <voicu> Hi, I accidentally chowned /etc/sudoers to another user. Now sudo doesn't work, it says /etc/sudoers should have UID 0. su also doesn't work. Can someone help me, please?
[01:55] <apokryphos> Seveas: any ideas? :)
[01:56] <Seveas> voicu, boot into recovery mode, change it back
[01:56] <ompaul> EerieShadow, there is something called mrproject I have not tried it - supposed to be for gnome on mrproject.codefactory.se
[01:56] <mwe> Nyven: yeah. if not I think it's a bug it's not brougt in as a dependency
[01:56] <voicu> Thanks Seveas
[01:56] <ompaul> EerieShadow, as for good or bad no idea
[01:56] <Nyven> which is better xinetd or plain inetd ?
[01:56] <Seveas> apokryphos, it's due to unaligned electrons in the main conductor of the central MMU
[01:56] <Ng> xinetd is more configurable, but more complpex
[01:56] <EerieShadow> thank you ompaul
[01:56] <Seveas> (/me practices bofh skills)
[01:57] <mwe> Nyven: xinetd imo
[01:57] <ompaul> EerieShadow,  sudo apt-get install mrproject
[01:57] <apokryphos> 8)
[01:57] <EerieShadow> ;-)
[01:57] <ompaul> EerieShadow, i.e. it is build for ubuntu
[01:57] <chp> excuse me, after I compiled emacs 21.4, why can't I have a X window frame????
[01:57] <ompaul> EerieShadow, I need some of that myself :-) thanks for reminding me
[01:58] <ompaul> chp, why not just install it?
[01:58] <Nyven> mmm, looks like qpopper doesn't have inetd as a dependancy so it never gets installed
[01:58] <apokryphos> Seveas: nevermind, know how I could make an iptables rule to block all outgoing traffic to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:58] <chp> I don't have a good access to the internet
[01:58] <Seveas> apokryphos, man iptables :)
[01:58] <ompaul> chp, got the disks?
[01:59] <Pygi> Seveas: what's the issue with iptables?
[01:59] <chp> is there an emacs package in Ubuntu CD?
[01:59] <EerieShadow> ompaul: it requires the Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger
[01:59] <mwe> apokryphos: I'm not sure blocking all trafic to <IP_ADDRESS> is a good idea
[01:59] <EerieShadow> cdrom!
[01:59] <davidwinter> are there ati catalyst drivers for ubuntu
[01:59] <Pygi> david: no, but./....
[01:59] <Pygi> !ati
[01:59] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:00] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[02:00] <apokryphos> mwe: why? I wouldn't want any outgoing traffic on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> -- produces loopback traffic
[02:00] <gimmulf> !apache
[02:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[02:00] <ompaul> EerieShadow, # out the first line in the file with the command >>>sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list<<< save and run >>sudo apt-get update<< then you can do the install  over the internet
[02:00] <apokryphos> man iptables is a nie 1005 page document :P. Nevermind; trusty Ctrl+F.
[02:01] <ompaul> chp, there should be let me look
[02:01] <wizardjames> ok, how do i get this vsftpd thing working now?
[02:01] <chp> thank you
[02:01] <mwe> acidrainy: if you want to break loopback, just bring down the lo interface
[02:01] <Pygi> apokryphos: what's 1005 pages? :) Like 1 hour reading? :)
[02:01] <apokryphos> mwe: admittedly, I'm  not entirely sure if apache would completely function correctly; ideally I'd want to configure this from apache, but that might have to wait.
[02:01] <ompaul> chp,  there is emacs21 - The GNU Emacs editor in main so it is on the CD
[02:02] <Seveas> ompaul, no it's not on the cd
[02:02] <apokryphos> Pygi: who knows. You read it and I'll time you ;-)
[02:02] <chp> should I install with "sudo apt-get install emacs"?
[02:02] <ompaul> chp, sorry appears I am wrong
[02:02] <Seveas> the thing is 40mb, that's far too big for an 'editor' to be on the cd
[02:02] <mwe> apokryphos: I'm not a network geek, but AFAIK many network programs rely on lo
[02:02] <Pygi> apokryphos: hehe :)
[02:02] <ompaul> chp, I would say so, know anyone with broadband and a cd burner?
[02:03] <apokryphos> mwe: yup, I would've thought that if lo was setup correctly (with <IP_ADDRESS> assigned) that I wouldn't have this problem, but hey.
[02:03] <JockeTF> hello
[02:03] <app> Sudo remembers my password for 15 minutes by default, but how can I make that globally available, so that not every new shell or windows asks it again?
[02:03] <damotor> Hello. I'm having trouble with a firewire camcoder: it works perfect in kino but there's no way to make it work in Mercury
[02:03] <ompaul> chp, get them to download it for you
[02:03] <EerieShadow> ompaul: it worked, thanx
[02:03] <Pygi> !sudo
[02:03] <ubotu> [root]  by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[02:03] <chp> download what?
[02:03] <slept> can i download a kernel patched with suspend2 somwhere for amd64, or do i have to build my own ? is there a ubuntu patch for suspend ?
[02:03] <Seveas> app, !tty in the /etc/sudoers Defaults
[02:03] <chp> source code? or .deb?
[02:03] <app> !sudo
[02:03] <ompaul> chp, .deb
[02:03] <voicu> Seveas: it asks me for the root password but it doesn't accept it
[02:03] <chp> Ok, thank you
[02:04] <Pygi> voicu: what seems to be the issues?
[02:04] <Pygi> apokryphos: ok, but can I skip some pages? :)
[02:04] <wizardjames> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket is the error i get when i run vsftpd
[02:04] <apokryphos> Pygi: it's all one page, so no 8)
[02:04] <Seveas> voicu, what asks?
[02:04] <Pygi> apokryphos: well ,I'll skip the parts I know :)
[02:04] <voicu> Seveas: when I boot in recovery mode
[02:05] <Seveas> then enter ypour root password...
[02:05] <voicu> I did
[02:05] <voicu> But I never actually set it
[02:05] <Seveas> if you didn't set it, Ubuntu will not ask for it
[02:06] <voicu> But it does
[02:06] <Seveas> then you have set a root password :)
[02:06] <ompaul> voicu, so you did set it or you used automatiz or something like that
[02:06] <voicu> Isn't there like a default root password?
[02:06] <ompaul> voicu, are you on a live CD?
[02:06] <apokryphos> voicu: /msg ubotu rootsudo
[02:06] <Seveas> voicu, no there isn't
[02:07] <voicu> ompaul: no, i'm not
[02:07] <ompaul> voicu, then there is nothing other than one you or someone else set on that machine
[02:07] <EerieShadow> is there some kind of way to incorporate the project management to the email client (thunderbird prefferably)?
[02:08] <taomaster> do u think maybe they'll have java installed with the next release?
[02:08] <EerieShadow> also is there a project management app that is also online?
[02:08] <aftertaf> taomaster:  legal reasons mean no, probably
[02:08] <Seveas> taomaster, apt-get install j2sdk-1.4
[02:08] <voicu> ompaul: then the root password should be mine, right? That's what I used to type for sudo...
[02:08] <taomaster> i can not install java- i keep getting errors
[02:08] <Seveas> it's there already, in multiverse
[02:08] <Pygi> !java
[02:08] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:08] <EerieShadow> something like CRM ? (I am not sure if it is called that)
[02:08] <Pygi> !javedebs
[02:08] <ubotu> Pygi: Are you smoking crack?
[02:09] <taomaster> hehe
[02:09] <Pygi> !javadebs
[02:09] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:09] <Pygi> ubotu, shut up :/
[02:09] <ubotu> Not a clue, Pygi
[02:09] <ompaul> voicu, yes
[02:09] <ilba7r> voicu do you have the installation cd
[02:09] <encompass> hi everyone
[02:09] <taomaster> i'm just an x-windows retard
[02:09] <gimmulf> How do i make apache2 start on startup instead of apache?
[02:09] <voicu> ilba7r, yes
[02:09] <Seveas> gimmulf, don't install apache :)
[02:10] <ompaul> taomaster, should your name be zenwindows
[02:10] <ompaul> gimmulf, apache is 1.3 by default
[02:10] <encompass> when I have used my account, I log out, and anyone tries to login the can't it never reaches the splash screen of gnome...  I have trying killling the gnome-panel but to no avail... any other ideas?
[02:10] <gimmulf> Seveas:  does it start apache2 by default then? :)
[02:10] <DevGet> Isn't it possible to resize a ntfs partition with gparted?
[02:10] <ilba7r> voicu you might try booting the installation cd at the boot <start> boot type rescue. will take you inrescue mode and then you can access your files. PS do not be scared by the installation steps
[02:10] <utada> hello, i can't seem to make gnome put my display to sleep after a few mins, how do i do it?
[02:10] <ompaul> gimmulf, install apache2 if that is what you want
[02:11] <yosef> Can someone help me figuring out the correct syntex to get filenames in hebrew to appear correctly?
[02:11] <voicu> ilba7r: yeah, good idea, thanks
[02:11] <ilba7r> voicu so basically put it in and at boot prompt type rescue and follow the screen
[02:11] <encompass> utada: you mean, power off your moniter?
[02:11] <ilba7r> :)
[02:11] <app> Thx, Seveas, the parameter to force per-windows password check in sudo is actually !tty_tickets, which is in /etc/sudoers by default in 5.10 and I removed it to guard my precious password for extensive repeats on the keyboard ;-)
[02:11] <utada> not really
[02:11] <utada> i mean make it "sleep"
[02:11] <moo_> can someone tell me how to downgrade to gcc 3.4.5
[02:11] <utada> not turn it off, but put it in sleep mode
[02:11] <utada> where the light is blinking
[02:11] <utada> if you know what i mean
[02:12] <encompass> utada: yeah
[02:12] <utada> power saving mode i guess
[02:12] <yosef> Can someone help me figuring out the correct syntex to get filenames in hebrew to appear correctly?
[02:12] <taomaster> i use suse and have no issues- just really like ubuntu,but having issues installing java
[02:12] <utada> how do i do it?
[02:12] <encompass> utada: system, preferences, screensaver
[02:12] <tRSS> I ripped a lot of tracks from CDs a few weeks back. Now I can't tell which track belongs to which artist, songs, etc. Is there a software out there they can download or determine the song by analyzing the audio itself? I have heard of musicbrainz. Is this the software I am looking for?
[02:12] <encompass> the settings are there
[02:12] <encompass> have you played with that
[02:13] <encompass> tRSS: why didn't you have that in the first place?
[02:13] <moo_> will someone tell me how to downgrade to gcc 3.4.5
[02:13] <lucasvo> is there any php5-pear package in ubuntu?
[02:13] <encompass> tRSS: like, did you not use your interent connection before that?
[02:13] <Pygi> !bug
[02:13] <ubotu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[02:13] <lucasvo> I can't find it in universe
[02:13] <spiekey> where can i get the ubuntu64Bit Server sources?
[02:13] <tRSS> encompass: ? I am lost??
[02:13] <spiekey> the sources.list i mean
[02:13] <app> What do you say about this, my log is full of "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa" and a suggestion to use "setkeycodes".
[02:13] <yosef> Does anyone here have filenames in right-to-left language(e.g. hebrew, arabic)?
[02:14] <moo_> can someone tell me how to downgrade to gcc 3.4.5
[02:14] <vik> I just moved my system from one disk to another after a nasty disk failure. The root partition is the same (hda2), but the swap partition has changed from hda3 to hda5. I've reflected this in fstab (hda3 is now an extended partition). When I boot in recovery mode I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6591
[02:14] <encompass> yosef: sorry no... have you checked the forums for an answer?
[02:14] <JoeBlow> why when i got to view my harddrive, does it tell me You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda3", I did the ubuntu tutorial and it didnt work properly
[02:14] <encompass> when I have used my account, I log out, and anyone tries to login the can't it never reaches the splash screen of gnome...  I have trying killling the gnome-panel but to no avail... any other ideas?
[02:14] <yosef> encompass-> yep. no answers yet...
[02:15] <Nyven> mwe: qpopper is working now . ta again
[02:15] <moo_> can someone tell me how to downgrade to gcc 3.4.5
[02:15] <utada> it disables the display power managment :(
[02:15] <Myrtti> moo_: we heard you the first time
[02:15] <viyyer> how do I change the default distro name.. my apt still assumes that warty as the base distribution
[02:15] <encompass> utada: what?  really? that sucks, have you disables, acpi or apm features in your install?
[02:15] <Myrtti> viyyer: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:16] <utada> not really
[02:16] <viyyer> In debian I use /etc/apt/apt.preferences
[02:16] <utada> it's not disabled actually
[02:16] <viyyer> what is the equivivalent??
[02:16] <utada> i tag it and change the time
[02:16] <utada> but when i exit
[02:16] <BigKahuna> !itunes
[02:16] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, BigKahuna
[02:16] <utada> it untagged again
[02:16] <viyyer> Myrtti, I have left with only breezy packages
[02:16] <ilba7r> moo_ i assume you need to compile with gcc 3.4.5 so why not just install it. It will work this way
[02:16] <BigKahuna> whats the linux equivalent to iTunes?
[02:17] <deltron> BigKahuna: juk maybe
[02:17] <encompass> is there a way to resetup my gdm?
[02:17] <moo_> becouase i dont know how
[02:17] <encompass> without reisntalling of course
[02:17] <deltron> dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:17] <encompass> thanks
[02:17] <deltron> from CLI
[02:17] <BigKahuna> Is anybody using an iPod with linux?
[02:17] <deltron> sudo of course
[02:17] <vik> what files would need to be changed when moving an ubuntu install from one drive to another?
[02:18] <aftertaf> encompass:  or install kdm.
[02:18] <bpuccio> BigKahuna: to purchase music, try sharpmusique, if you want to play music, there's rhythmbox and juk
[02:18] <florian> hi all
[02:18] <ilba7r> moo_ use synaptic to  install build-essentials gcc-3.4.5
[02:18] <utada> how do i put my display into sleep mode?
[02:18] <BigKahuna> bpuccio, juk will detect my Ipod when I connect it?
[02:19] <florian> Is there anybody who has wine 9.4 running on ubuntu?
[02:19] <deltron> !wine
[02:19] <florian> errr. 0.9.4
[02:19] <deltron> ubotu: tell florian about wine
[02:19] <bpuccio> BigKahuna: I have no idea, I don't have an iPod, I use an ogg player made by cowon that is recognized as a USB mass storage device and I just copy my music over that way
[02:20] <moo_> umm how to i get to synaptic
[02:20] <Kindred> BigKahuna, gtkpod is quite popular
[02:21] <aftertaf> moo_:  its in your menu, or you type sudo synaptic in console
[02:21] <ilba7r> moo_ if you are using gnome use the menus. or type in a terminal gksudo synaptic
[02:21] <FiNANCiER> holy hell i had no idea this linux distribution was so popular
[02:21] <aftertaf> FiNANCiER:  learn and weep :]
[02:22] <FiNANCiER> ima visit the site after this game (as i visited it ages and ages ago)
[02:22] <FiNANCiER> how long has it been big? just recently?
[02:22] <FiNANCiER> 3rd top channel on freenode in terms of popularity
[02:22] <encompass> wow
[02:22] <Myrtti> distrowatch.com
[02:23] <aftertaf> hippy new year Myrtti  :]
[02:23] <Myrtti> FiNANCiER: http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity
[02:23] <Myrtti> aftertaf: happy one for you too ;-)
[02:23] <FiNANCiER> thank you
[02:24] <AtomicB_> hey guys, got a quick one - how to install jre on a fresh beezy install?
[02:25] <Pygi> !java
[02:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:25] <Pygi> !javadebs
[02:25] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:25] <AtomicB_> cheers :]
[02:27] <wizardjames> whats a good ftp server?
[02:27] <kemik> wizardjames:  pureftpd i've heard is good
[02:27] <panzer> proftpd
[02:27] <deltron> proftpd is decent
[02:27] <wizardjames> there one with a gui?
[02:28] <Pygi> !ftpserver
[02:28] <ubotu> Pygi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:28] <kemik> gui in linux? :P
[02:28] <Pygi> kemik: LOL
[02:28] <Pygi> james: good server is the one you can maintain :)
[02:29] <aftertaf> u can use webmin for a gui after
[02:29] <SkunkZilla> can someone please help me with my ntfs partitions, ive tried all the stuff on wiki, and I just cant get it to work
[02:29] <Pygi> not webmin :/
[02:29] <panzer> but I have dhcp what I do?
[02:29] <kemik> SkunkZilla:  get what to work? reading from it ?
[02:30] <aftertaf> SkunkZilla:  for accessing it, or for write access ?
[02:30] <wizardjames> blah, i cant get this working..
[02:30] <GreenCult> buenos dias a todos
[02:30] <ilba7r> wizardjames if you just need file sharing there are other ways
[02:30] <aftertaf> buenos dias and !es
[02:30] <aftertaf> !es
[02:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:30] <aftertaf> :)
[02:30] <SkunkZilla> i can access it from the admin disks tools, but the icons on the desktop wont let me
[02:31] <shomon> hi I wonder if any of you would know how to get a bluetooth dongle working on ubuntu? Is there a list somewhere of makes that work, or do they all?
[02:31] <SkunkZilla> kemik: i can access it from the admin disks tools, but the icons on the desktop wont let me
[02:31] <spiekey> where can i get a ubuntu sources.list for 64Bit?
[02:31] <spiekey> i want to upgrade from woody to ubuntu 5.10 64Bit
[02:31] <spiekey> any idea?
[02:32] <Myrtti> woody?
[02:32] <Myrtti> as in debian woody?
[02:32] <SkunkZilla> so how do i access the disks with wine, and from the icons on the desktop?
[02:32] <spiekey> Myrtti: yes
[02:32] <Myrtti> bad idea
[02:32] <Myrtti> try fresh install
[02:32] <morphix> hrm.. ok i installed ubuntu succesfully(obviously) on my usb hdd..
[02:32] <spiekey> Myrtti: impossible
[02:32] <spiekey> Myrtti: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrade-woody
[02:32] <aftertaf> copy /home and /etc for safe keeping then fresh install... better Myrtti ?
[02:32] <ompaul> spiekey, you said sarge
[02:32] <Myrtti> yup
[02:32] <morphix> when i try to access my ntfs windows partitions. i get access denied, no permission
[02:32] <SkunkZilla> can someone please just msg me and help me with my harddrives?
[02:33] <ompaul> !anyone
[02:33] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:33] <morphix> how can i access the other hdds?
[02:33] <spiekey> ompaul: i read that from woody its more stable
[02:33] <spiekey> ompaul: i can choose between woody and sarge :)
[02:33] <Myrtti> I'm off to sofa
[02:33] <Myrtti> -->
[02:33] <Kanye> can somebody please tell me how i can have the led on my mute button working? i was able to fix the led on my wifi im pretty sure is the same step but i dont know how to access my sound cards config file
[02:33] <ompaul> spiekey, download a CD 5.10 and install it save the bother just back up the home directories and the user info from /etc/
[02:34] <ompaul> Myrtti, enjoy
[02:34] <spiekey> ompaul: i have no physical access to the box
[02:34] <shomon> how do you make a bluetooth usb adaptor work on ubuntu?
[02:34] <JoeBlow> how do I log in as root?
[02:34] <spiekey> JoeBlow: sudo su - ?
[02:35] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Log in as use,r type 'sudo -i'
[02:35] <JoeBlow> cafuego: log in as use? what do you mean?
[02:36] <dwhsix> hi all - in nautilus, if I select a file I can right-click and do send to, but only evolution shows up as an option... how would I add thunderbird to that list?
[02:36] <cafuego> JoeBlow: log in as normal user, create a root shell by typing 'sudo -i' in a terminal.
[02:36] <coz> hello all
[02:36] <JoeBlow> cafuego: im trying to change premissions on a harddrive, and it says the root is the owner, so how do i go in as root, on the gui, and change them?
[02:37] <joshi> is there a good guide how to install Unreal Tournament GOTY on linux?
[02:37] <BigKahuna> how to mount FAT32 drive?
[02:37] <cafuego> JoeBlow: What kind of harddrive? Fat? ntfs?
[02:37] <BigKahuna> sudo mount -t vfat?
[02:37] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ntfs
[02:37] <cafuego> JoeBlow: ntfs doesn't support unix permissions, you can't run chown on it.
[02:37] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok thnx
[02:37] <cafuego> JoeBlow: You need to change the mount options in /etc/fstab
[02:38] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Speficially: uid, gid and umask options.
[02:38] <JoeBlow> cafuego: where can i find that? im really new to linux, just trying to get this working for my kid
[02:38] <fr0x> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 5.10, strangely when I download through FTP - After X's minutes my linux stucks and I must restart for fixing this problem
[02:38] <fr0x> Any idea why?
[02:38] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Ok, add 'umask=000' in the options column in /etc/fstab for the NTFS partition.
[02:38] <morphix> hrm
[02:39] <JoeBlow> cafuego: Im really sorry, but where is the options column or better yet, ect/fstab
[02:39] <morphix> JoeBlow: sudo nano /etc/fstab in terminal
[02:39] <morphix> or vim or gedit
[02:39] <morphix> whatever u like best.
[02:40] <ompaul> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[02:40] <cvt|gnuyear> How do i burn video files to dvd for playback?
[02:40] <JoeBlow> morphix: ok i did that
[02:40] <app> t
[02:40] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Now fine the line with the ntfs partition.
[02:40] <cafuego> find
[02:40] <Swearingen> morning
[02:40] <cafuego> JoeBlow: And in the options column, make sure it says: ro,user,umask=000
[02:41] <fr0x> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 5.10, strangely when I download through FTP - After X's minutes my linux stucks and I must restart for fixing this problem - Any clue why it happens?
[02:41] <coz> cvtjnuyear are you using gnomebaker?
[02:41] <Tomcat_> fr0x: Only happens when you're using FTP?
[02:41] <cvt|gnuyear> coz, not yet
[02:41] <coz> fr0x No idea someone here will know
[02:42] <klaym> hey can someone explain me exactly why is Linux (and Ubuntu) practically free of viruses?
[02:42] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok it says /dev/sda3       /media/sda3     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[02:42] <Swearingen> I'm sitting behind a rather idiotic proxy that blocks all ftp
[02:42] <coz> cvtjnuyear well gnomebaker is what you probably wnat to use unless you purchase NeroLinux
[02:42] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Yep. Chnage the 'defaults' to 'ro,user,umask=000'
[02:42] <spiekey> klaym: due to opensource
[02:42] <with> linlin
[02:42] <coz> but I have had problems with NeroLinus on ubuntu
[02:42] <Tomcat_> klaym: Because Linux is only used by a minority of people and the system is better designed than Windows.
[02:42] <coz> nerolinux
[02:42] <Swearingen> is there anyway to get updates w/o using ftp?
[02:42] <FiNANCiER> i sure hope my bridged dial in to dsl using pppoe will be easier under ubuntu, i've had problems with every software pppoe program that was on my knoppix live cd
[02:42] <tsw> anyone know of a simple script which would log my wan link connectivity (maybe by doing traceroute to few servers and seeing where its broken and log the start and end time)?
[02:42] <fr0x> Tomcat, as a matter of fact I have just installed Ubuntu (like a week ago), I did download a few times through the browser, it worked quite well, but it stucks when I use FTP
[02:42] <cafuego> Swearingen: use http
[02:43] <cafuego> Swearingen: Like via apt-get or synaptic.
[02:43] <klaym> spiekey and Tomcat_: thanks for your answes. I'm trying to convince a Windows user to Linux
[02:43] <coz> Swearingen apt-get updates
[02:43] <coz> apt-get upgrade
[02:43] <cafuego> Swearingen: Do _not_ ftp .deb files from the archive sites.
[02:43] <with> i have any problem to chatting
[02:43] <joshi> klaym: less users- less ppl to exploit. And linux users are usually smarter then win users- more careful with security
[02:43] <Tomcat_> klaym: Install a Windows system, connect it to the Internet -> lots of viruses due to open services. Install a Linux, connect it to the Internet -> nothing, because there's just nothing open.
[02:43] <spiekey> klaym: for what purpose? Office work or gaming?
[02:43] <ompaul> coz, so what does that teach you?
[02:43] <Swearingen> cafuego, coz: my mistake, I'm not using ftp I'm using http sources but I'm still not getting updates
[02:43] <Tomcat_> fr0x: Same app for FTP all the time? What app?
[02:44] <allison_1984> fr0x: I' having the same problem, browser' s getting real slow too !
[02:44] <cafuego> Swearingen: try ftp sources instead? :-)
[02:44] <fr0x> Right allison_1984 !
[02:44] <fr0x> Tomcat,
[02:44] <spiekey> klaym: my tip: install a dual boot system, and dont do a full switch to linux. the user will be disapointed.
[02:44] <allison_1984> Is it opera ?
[02:44] <klaym> We're just talking about computing in general, actually
[02:44] <spiekey> do it step by step
[02:44] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok, now it says, /dev/sda3       /media/sda3     ntfs    ro,user,umask=000        0       0
[02:44] <fr0x> It is not an application, *.rar that include images (JPG's)
[02:44] <allison_1984> ok
[02:44] <FiNANCiER> anyone using software pppoe to connect to their dsl service in ubuntu?
[02:44] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Perfect. ctrl-x; save; unmount, remount.
[02:44] <cvt|gnuyear> i can only find dvd burning apps that burn data disks.
[02:45] <klaym> spiekey: will be disapointed of Ubuntu after he's used Windows? Why do you think so?
[02:45] <cafuego> cvt|gnuyear: Just a moment...
[02:45] <ompaul> spiekey, dual boot people don't boot linux mostly - unless they installed Linux themselves
[02:45] <Swearingen> cafeugo, coz: I keep getting 403 forbidden when trying to update
[02:45] <Swearingen> synaptic or apt
[02:45] <spiekey> klaym: my experience. They miss a lot of features wich linux doesnt has or need. linux is just "diffrent" not worse.
[02:45] <Tomcat_> klaym: He will be disappointed because the stuff he did on Windows, the methods he used for his work, the way he interacted with his PC will be different.
[02:46] <Tomcat_> klaym: Exactly what spiekey just said. :)
[02:46] <spiekey> :)
[02:46] <allison_1984> ompaul: I have dual boot but haven't touched windows in ages.......
[02:46] <cafuego> Swearingen: That's an HTTP error, not an ftp one, no? Does the proxy require authentication?
[02:46] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok, i guess i have to umount through terminal, how do i do that?
[02:46] <fr0x> Tomcat, I could use browser (download it through the browser) - unfortunately when I download it through the browser (firefox) it is being very slow, and when it downloads through FTP (until it gets stuck) I get very high result.
[02:46] <app> How do I change colour of my own messages in X-chat? The Setting / Preferences... is not clear to me, and #xchat is not very active, X-Chat manual is useless..
[02:46] <cafuego> cvt|gnuyear: See if you can find an app called 'DVDStyler'.
[02:46] <ompaul> allison_1984, who installed it?
[02:46] <Swearingen> cafeugo, coz: the weird thing is I can web browse to the archive locations
[02:46] <allison_1984> ompaul: just keeping it for mixing music
[02:46] <Tomcat_> fr0x: You always say "when it downloads through FTP"... FTP is just a protocol, what application are you using?
[02:46] <klaym> maybe so. but they'll appreciate the extra bucks they don't need for buying office -type programs, firewall, antivirus, etc
[02:46] <klaym> :)
[02:46] <tuhl> is there an initrd available for booting from USB-Disks?
[02:46] <allison_1984> ompaul: myself :)
[02:46] <cafuego> JoeBlow: 'sudo umount /media/sda3'
[02:46] <Swearingen> cafuego: it doesn't require auth anywhere else
[02:46] <Tomcat_> klaym: There's enough free stuff on Windows too. :)
[02:47] <fr0x> Tomcat, I just "ftp" through the terminal
[02:47] <cafuego> JoeBlow: remount it via 'mount /media/sda3'
[02:47] <site> can i have the full performance of windows with vmware?
[02:47] <ompaul> allison_1984, my point exactly, hand someone a choice and they take default which is not good for them
[02:47] <Tomcat_> site: I doubt it.
[02:47] <spiekey> site: no way
[02:47] <slept> site: use qemu its free
[02:47] <cafuego> Swearingen: Try a different mirror site
[02:47] <allison_1984> ompaul: I could not be too bothered to install the drivers too
[02:47] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok, i did that, and remounted it, and it still doesnt let me
[02:47] <htrujillo> site: i said 80% of performance
[02:47] <spiekey> site: xen gets very close to it, but only for linux emulations
[02:47] <Swearingen> cafuego: is there a list of good mirrors maintained somewhere?
[02:47] <slept> site: with kqemu it works at nice speed
[02:47] <Tomcat_> fr0x: And did you try something else than the terminal FTP? Like FTP in your browser or using Nautilus?
[02:47] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Can't read files off it?
[02:48] <JoeBlow> cafuego: doesnt see any files
[02:48] <site> kqemu
[02:48] <site> and is it easy to use?
[02:48] <fr0x> Tomcat, I will try that. You recommand on Nautilus? It comes by default or I shall apt-get it?
[02:48] <with> iccho_grand
[02:48] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Ok. Type 'id'. What is the user id (number) for the user that needs access?
[02:48] <site> and hoy many % performance does kqemu have?
[02:48] <JoeBlow> cafuego: I dunno,how do i find out?
[02:49] <cafuego> JoeBlow: type 'id'
[02:49] <cafuego> JoeBlow: The first number you see... probably 1000
[02:49] <JoeBlow> yea
[02:49] <Tomcat_> fr0x: Nautilus is installed by default. Just type ftp://<username>:<password>@<ftp address> and you're done. If it crashes there it's really weird.
[02:49] <JoeBlow> cafuego:yea 1000
[02:49] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Ok, edit /etc/fstab again.
[02:49] <cafuego> JoeBlow: change that option field to 'ro,user,umask=000,uid=1000'
[02:50] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Then unmount and remount.
[02:50] <fr0x> Tomcat, What other FTP program you can suggest me to use?
[02:50] <fr0x> A good one
[02:50] <slept> site: the hompage tells between  50 and 100%
[02:50] <site> thats a huge difference
[02:50] <Tomcat_> fr0x: lftp (console)... firefox will work too but is not good...
[02:51] <Tomcat_> fr0x: It's not that you should switch to another program, you should just try one FTP download that you did with the ftp console app with some other app, so we can see if it's the app that crashes you or the Internet transfer.
[02:51] <pi9inE> i can't burn my DVD .iso downloaded as boot DVD :(((
[02:51] <pi9inE> what's the problem please, help me out
[02:51] <pi9inE> i've burned over 10 DVD for nothing
[02:51] <slept> site: but in any case its worth a try , just apt-get and quick image creation  there are images for bsd aswell wich you can try
[02:52] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok i did cntrl x to save, now do i just x the window?
[02:52] <cafuego> pi9inE: Did you check the ISO md5sum>
[02:52] <cafuego> JoeBlow: yep
[02:52] <pi9inE> cafuego: you mean in nero?
[02:52] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok but when i go back into the options, it says defaults again
[02:53] <cafuego> pi9inE: I mean did you check the md5sum of the downloaded file against the provided checksum?
[02:53] <cvt|gnuyear> cafuego, i found this http://dvdstyler.sourceforge.net/downloads.html so i dl'ed the .deb and did sudo apt-get install <file name>
[02:53] <cafuego> JoeBlow: grrr.
[02:53] <cafuego> cvt|gnuyear: 'sudo dpkg -i <filename>'
[02:53] <cvt|gnuyear> ok
[02:53] <stan_> does anyone know how to discover a modem?  (I'm giving my old PC away in 15 mins & cant get the modem working for the new owner)
[02:53] <cafuego> cvt|gnuyear: Note that *may* not work
[02:53] <pi9inE> cafuego: where to check it? i've downloaded an original one from official web
[02:53] <cvt|gnuyear> np
[02:53] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Re-edit, then ctrl-O maybe.
[02:53] <site> slept, , the bsd image is free?
[02:54] <JoeBlow> cafuego: got it, thanks so much
[02:54] <cafuego> JoeBlow: no worries
[02:54] <htrujillo> yeah... how can i check the md5sum?
[02:54] <qsrv> hi
[02:54] <deFrysk> md5sum <file>
[02:55] <htrujillo> thanks
[02:55] <qsrv> is anyone using scilab under  breezy?
[02:55] <site> hm, why cant i install drivers in xp with vmware? :S
[02:55] <qsrv> it fails to start, reports font problems
[02:55] <Pheinox> hello there
[02:55] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok whats the command to go back into those options?
[02:55] <pi9inE> deFrysk: how to check?
[02:55] <cafuego> JoeBlow: 'sudo nano /etc/fstab'
[02:55] <slept> site: which hardware do you think an emulation uses ?
[02:56] <JoeBlow> cafuego: thanks you so much
[02:56] <site> slept, i dont know
[02:56] <site> the same i guess
[02:56] <Pheinox> I use the ubuntu version 5.04 liveCD , now i have problems with totem and xmms to play files , how can i remedy this ?
[02:56] <deFrysk> pi9inE, compare it to the given md5 sum from dowload
[02:57] <site> what does it use slept ?
[02:57] <slept> site: no it has its own harware as far as i know , did you see the vmware graphics in xserver config :)
[02:57] <pi9inE> nvm, my GF is here, talk to you later... thanks
[02:57] <Swearingen> cafuego: so this is getting frustrating.  I've tried two mirror sites now w/ the same 403 results but I can browse and dl packages via Firefox w/o issue
[02:57] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: Do you save your home dir using the LiveCD?
[02:57] <site> thats shit, so i cant use my videocard ?
[02:58] <stoneage> is it possible to change the ugly icon from the "unlock screen" at gnome ?
[02:58] <Pheinox> Tomcat_, the files that i want to listen and watch at is on a win xp systen running ntfs , and no i cannot save anything on tha harddisk still i have 1G ran to use
[02:59] <Pheinox> i have the partition of the xp with the files mounted
[02:59] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[02:59] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: Has playing these files on the LiveCD ever worked?
[02:59] <Tomcat_> C-O-L-T: Please disable your awaymessage.
[02:59] <slept> site: vmware does that for you , I think . But did you ask in #vmware?
[02:59] <Pheinox> its jsut that totem doesnt work , and when installing xmms its not working either , its seems like it is missing decoders
[03:00] <site> no gonna do now
[03:00] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: Well, the LiveCD only comes with Ogg Vorbis and some Mpeg-Support.
[03:00] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: You'll have to follow the Ubuntu 5.04 instructions for multimedia then... like installing totem-xine, w32codecs and the like.
[03:01] <Pheinox> Tomcat_, ic , how can I get access to more decoders ? I mean i tried to use the package manager and still its not working ... are there any way to get the stuff needed ?
[03:01] <Pheinox> Tomcat_, hmm where do you f9ind those instructions ?
[03:02] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: I'm wondering about that too... I know where they are for 5.10, but not 5.04.
[03:02] <Tomcat_> !w32codecs
[03:02] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:02] <Tomcat_> Mh...
[03:02] <Tomcat_> !mp3
[03:02] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:02] <Tomcat_> You could try the things on that site.
[03:02] <Tomcat_> But it's written for 5.10.
[03:03] <dabaR__> just download the same referred pacjkages.
[03:03] <dabaR__> In the worst case, search for only package names, and do not include versions, and you will be able to find something.
[03:03] <dabaR__> are you having diff. with movies, or music>?
[03:04] <Pheinox> hmm , I wonder why those decoders arent available per default
[03:04] <Tomcat_> dabaR_: He's trying to play MP3 and movies on a LiveCD
[03:04] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: Because there are license problems
[03:04] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: Most codecs are not allowed to be distributed with Linux, and so Ubuntu can't provide them by default.
[03:04] <dabaR__> what movies? what is the extension, or is it a dvd?
[03:04] <Pheinox> hmm
[03:04] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: If you live in the USA I believe you're breaking a whole bunch of laws downloading that stuff. ;)
[03:05] <Pheinox> i dont live in the usa
[03:05] <Pheinox> so thats making no sense =)
[03:05] <dabaR__> Pheinox: you will for sure need to enable universe and multiverse. Are you using Synaptic?
[03:05] <chocozenn> hi..??
[03:05] <Pheinox> dabaR_, i think its called synaptic =)
[03:06] <dabaR__> Pheinox: go check.
[03:06] <Pheinox> but the instructions whos apt-get ( debian package management )
[03:06] <dabaR__> what instructions? go open synaptic.
[03:06] <Pheinox> i still think ubntu live cd should have as knoppix support for all codecs
[03:06] <pogs> what is this
[03:06] <iccho_grand> hi....?
[03:06] <dabaR__> Pheinox: we are glad you are the 1000000th person with taht idea.
[03:07] <AIV> I decided to try and get off of windows, yes, I am trying to kick it cold turkey, last night I had the shakes and all
[03:07] <iccho_grand> joint
[03:07] <dabaR__> Pheinox: now, do you want it enabled, or not really?
[03:07] <Pheinox> dabaR_, =) hehe time to get democratical ?
[03:07] <pogs>  cannot lived with ubuntu
[03:07] <Pheinox> im trying to check the instructions there
[03:07] <dabaR__> Pheinox: democracy has proven to be a ryule of the mob. OK, then good luck, I gotta run.
[03:08] <esoteric> hey guys looking for some advice... i have a dell with dual Xeons in it... and im running breezy.... is there a precompiled kernel optimised for dual xeons?
[03:08] <AIV> anyhow, one thing is, now that I have 5.10 up and running, I get lock ups at random times that I can only get out of by restarting with the power button
[03:08] <Kanye> what is the tterminal command to download automatix?
[03:08] <stark-johan> on my windows machine I used putty to ssh to my linux computers, do I need a program to do this from ubuntu?
[03:09] <AIV> if it were windows, I might check the event log, so how do I begin troubleshooting in Ubuntu?
[03:09] <AIV> is there a log file somewhere that would tell me app is hanging?
[03:09] <kemik> syslog
[03:09] <spiekey> can i upgrade from ubuntu 32bit to ubbuntu 64bit?
[03:10] <dabaR__> AIV: do you know that you can get to a console with "alt+ctrl+f3" and then get back to the window part with "alt+ctrl+f7"? Do you know that alt+ctrl+backspace restart your window environment?
[03:10] <morphix> back again :) just added res's in xorg
[03:10] <cvt|gnuyear> cafuego, i can't install dvdstyler because it depends on newer versions of files that aren't in synaptic
[03:10] <AIV> dabaR_, no, didn't know that, thank you
[03:11] <morphix> what do i need to download to play mp3, avi, mpg, etc, etc? like what codecs, etc
[03:11] <Kindred> !restricted
[03:11] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:11] <dabaR__> AIV: try that, when it freezes, that way you know what is freezing up, whether it is the whole comptuer, or just the x-window-system.
[03:12] <Kindred> morphix, check out that site.
[03:12] <esoteric> !xeon
[03:12] <ubotu> esoteric: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:12] <AIV> dabaR_, thanks for that valuable info
[03:12] <site> you cant use your videocard with vmware :(
[03:12] <site> thats not cool
[03:13] <fr0x> Tomcat, amazing, I can download it through the browser (ftp://<username>:<Password>@Address)
[03:13] <app> Still no Skype for Ubuntu?
[03:13] <fr0x> Though I get very bad result, 2.8kb/sec
[03:13] <fr0x> While I download from this server at 150kb/sec
[03:13] <bugz_> anybody can suggest a good pci-express vga-card for both ubuntu and fedora?
[03:13] <fr0x> I used to get this from my fbsd box + windows
[03:13] <morphix> thanks Kindred
[03:13] <Manifold> Guys, how do I take my HD icons off the desktop?
[03:15] <Suprano> i have a audioplayer started with wine.. but when i press the play button the application terminates
[03:15] <Pheinox> hmm perhaps a script for the live CD's should be there to change the stuff fir synaptic to multiverse etc
[03:15] <Manifold> What audio player, Suprano?
[03:15] <Suprano> foobar2000
[03:15] <Manifold> Good choice.
[03:15] <Manifold> :]
[03:15] <Suprano> hehe
[03:15] <FiNANCiER> that's the best music player on the planet
[03:16] <FiNANCiER> who wouldnt want leet playlists
[03:16] <Manifold> Did you follow the guide, Suprano?
[03:16] <Manifold> There's a guide to setup fb2k on the forums.
[03:16] <Manifold> For linux.
[03:16] <Suprano> oh
[03:16] <Suprano> let's see :D
[03:16] <morphix> is there a 'media library' plugin for xmms?
[03:16] <Manifold> :]
[03:16] <bugz_> anybody can suggest a good pci-express vga-card for both ubuntu and fedora?
[03:17] <Manifold> Guys, how do I take my HD icons off the desktop?
[03:18] <UbuntuMike> The panel at the top of the screen can have show and hide bars, is there a way to change the colour of those show/hide bars?
[03:18] <cvt|gnuyear> wishlist: wireless internet, dvd video burning, hl2, doom 3
[03:19] <site> u dont have hl2, doom3?
[03:19] <Manifold> Guys, how do I take my HD icons off the desktop?
[03:19] <cvt|gnuyear> site, not for ubuntu
[03:19] <dabaR__> Manifold: you asked a minute ago
[03:19] <Manifold> Sorry.
[03:19] <dabaR__> Manifold: apps>sys tools>config editor>nautilus>desktop>show drives or so.
[03:19] <site> ah i see
[03:19] <AIV> also, what app is out there for ubuntu that is like VMWARE for windows?
[03:20] <Pheinox> wine
[03:20] <dabaR__> AIV: the truth is out there
[03:20] <Pheinox> vmware ?
[03:20] <Pheinox> ?=)
[03:20] <site> vmware for linux
[03:20] <site> im using it now
[03:20] <Tomcat_> AIV: qemu
[03:20] <saik0> AIV, also qemu
[03:20] <site> and im not satisfied
[03:20] <dabaR__> !windows
[03:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[03:20] <site> i cant use my videocard at full performance
[03:20] <Manifold> !alternative
[03:21] <ubotu> somebody said alternative was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[03:21] <d5rt> AIV: you might check out umls and vservers as well (if you only want to host linux virtual machines)
[03:21] <d5rt> probably not possible yet w/plain vanilla ubuntu, but...
[03:23] <AIV> d5rt, I'll be running windows xp in my virtual machine
[03:23] <rix> h
[03:25] <app> I have trouble installing the skyp*.deb from Skype.com for Breezy. Is it supposed to work?
[03:25] <site> AIV, and how do you like XP in ur virtual mAchine?
[03:26] <poningru> !tell app about skype
[03:26] <mumanddad> !.deb
[03:26] <ubotu> mumanddad: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:26] <mumanddad> !deb
[03:26] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:27] <AIV> site, I'm not sure what you mean?  I need to run XP in a virtual machine so that I can support it
[03:27] <site> yea, me 2
[03:28] <app> The Breezy  default Firefox downloads stuff to /tmp but lies  in the download dialog, that it downloads to Desktop"!!!
[03:28] <site> but i want xp @ full performance
[03:28] <site> and that does not work
[03:28] <Manifold> !windows
[03:28] <ubotu> well, windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[03:28] <app> !skype
[03:28] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:28] <Manifold> !lindows
[03:28] <ubotu> No idea, Manifold
[03:28] <Manifold> !xandros
[03:28] <ubotu> Manifold: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:28] <Seveas> Manifold, stop.
[03:29] <Raskall> what is the correct way to measure the actual transfer rate of a harddrive? I have a SATA-150 disk and controller that should have a transfer rate of 150 MB/s, but I only get about 60 with "hdparm -tT /dev/sda"
[03:30] <Suprano> hmm what do i have to change to let more then 1 app use the sound output? (alsa)
[03:32] <bea_> hello
[03:32] <tech9iner> G'Day bea_
[03:32] <AIV> has anyone in here run windows xp pro in qemu?  if so, what is the best place for instructions
[03:33] <ompaul> #windows perhaps
[03:33] <bea_> thanks
[03:33] <app> OK, I installed the static binary skype. CAn I get my contact list somehow, not to manually re-create it?
[03:34] <Hendikins> If you've got a .skype from another machine, you can use it
[03:34] <mumanddad> it does save them on server
[03:35] <Kanye> i just downloaded automatix and i installed laptop wi-fi how can i access the program to see what networks i have avaibable
[03:35] <morphix> i cant here any sound at all.. would i need to install drivers??
[03:35] <morphix> btw i am using optical out
[03:39] <app> "Centralized contacts" is supposed to work on "most recent" version of Skype? Looks like it does mean 1.2 that's available for Linux.
[03:39] <app> I mean does not mean
[03:40] <Markbb-> !ati
[03:40] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:41] <joshi> one question- im trying to install UT:
[03:41] <joshi> joshi@joshi:~/Desktop$ ./ut-install-436.run
[03:41] <joshi> Verifying archive integrity...OK
[03:41] <joshi> Uncompressing Unreal Tournament version 436 Linux installtrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...]
[03:41] <joshi> what i need to do?
[03:41] <site> UT?
[03:41] <site> 2004?
[03:41] <joshi> goty
[03:41] <site> linux edition?
[03:41] <joshi> yea
[03:41] <Suprano> yea
[03:41] <site> well i dont know much about linux
[03:42] <joshi> :P
[03:42] <site> but i can tell its not good for playin games
[03:42] <joshi> probably
[03:42] <joshi> but im bored from mahjong allready :/
[03:42] <site> lol
[03:43] <site> i can understand that
[03:43] <Ng> joshi: that looks like the installer script is buggy :/
[03:43] <Markbb-> ppracer / tuxracer ftw!
[03:43] <Ng> joshi: tried Enemy Territory? free 3d shooter from the quake people
[03:43] <joshi> i dont like enemy oterritory... :(
[03:43] <joshi> tryed to get it to work just for testing and it worked
[03:44] <bjorn_> or how about jake! .. or jquake or whatever it was called
[03:44] <Suprano> what do i have to change to let more then 1 app use the sound output? (alsa)
[03:45] <joshi> thnx for the hint Ng - ill go look for some other place where to donwload the script
[03:45] <Ng> n
[03:45] <Ng> p
[03:45] <Ng> bah ;)
[03:45] <snk00sj> hi guys
[03:46] <snk00sj> i have a very strange problem
[03:46] <Kindred> joshi, might be worth looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-18348.html
[03:46] <snk00sj> i created a launcher on my desktop to link to a directory listing
[03:46] <TengkSA> Hi All .. how do you mount hard drives
[03:46] <snk00sj> tengska : it's on the wiki
[03:46] <lowman62> they should have chester cheetah as the installer mascot for winblows98 cuz it is just so darn cheezy :D
[03:46] <TengkSA> how do u access the wiki snk00sj
[03:46] <snk00sj> but when i move the SAME launcher (it works on the desktop) to a panel drawer, it doesn't work anymore
[03:46] <snk00sj> google : ubuntu wiki
[03:47] <snk00sj> then search "howto mount"
[03:47] <jack_> hello! I have installed ubuntu, but it is very unstable. The X server crashes appearently randomly and many times the whole system just hangs so badly that MUST reboot! Is this a known problem?
[03:47] <snk00sj> jack check the logs
[03:47] <snk00sj> /var/log
[03:47] <spiekey> memtest?
[03:47] <snk00sj> yeah thats the first thing you should try
[03:47] <jack_> spiekey, bought new memory
[03:47] <spiekey> so?
[03:47] <snk00sj> if you installed the grub bootloader you can launch a memtest from there
[03:48] <snk00sj> so there you got the problem :)
[03:48] <snk00sj> new memory is not always error free :)
[03:48] <jack_> spiekey, so nothing.. I booted and bang! Hangs bigtime//
[03:48] <snk00sj> jack run a memtest to start
[03:48] <joshi> Kindered Ng it really seemed to be a mistake of the script... downloaded from other place and it worked :)
[03:48] <site> what is better for games, cedega or winer?
[03:48] <joshi> thnx
[03:48] <site> and is it wisely to install both?
[03:48] <jack_> snk00sj, No but I tried with 4 different memory sticks!
[03:49] <Kindred> joshi, great :)
[03:49] <Ng> joshi: cool
[03:49] <Ng> site: cedega is probably better for many games
[03:49] <spacey_ki> jack_ just memtest, its already on your system. just be sure.
[03:49] <Ng> site: you can easily install both, cedega will keep itself quite well contained
[03:49] <site> ok cool ng, but i dont see cedega in my synaptic list?
[03:49] <snk00sj> is anyone using a panel drawer here ?
[03:50] <ccooke_> site: cedega is commercial software - you'll have to pay for it.
[03:50] <Ng> site: unfortunately cedega is a non-free fork of wine, you have to pay to get it :/
[03:50] <Ng> I think it's $15
[03:50] <snk00sj> wine should do the job just fine no ?
[03:50] <site> damn
[03:50] <Ng> depends on the game/application
[03:50] <Ng> try it in wine first though :)
[03:50] <site> u know some place where i can get it free?
[03:51] <Ng> no and this isn't really a good place to ask that ;)
[03:51] <jack_> spacey_ki, memtest - (what arguments)
[03:51] <snk00sj> please anyone, help me out here :)
[03:51] <spiekey> jack_: boot from your installation cd and type in "memtest"
[03:51] <kemik> jack-:  reboot and run it
[03:51] <mwe> cedega cvs is free of charge
[03:51] <site> hehe
[03:51] <snk00sj> just test if for me if its a common gnome problem
[03:51] <Ng> mwe: good point
[03:51] <snk00sj> then i'll report it to gnome bugtracking
[03:53] <bob_> Hi all
[03:53] <brasko> I was wondering if anyone knew how to get sound working in ubuntu with xmms
[03:53] <kemik> brasko:  choose the apropriate plugin for sound output ?
[03:54] <kemik> brasko:  and got mp3 support (gstreamer0.8-mad (or maby a newer version))
[03:54] <brasko> I have the SB Live! EMU10k1 card
[03:54] <brasko> I used to have it working in debian
[03:54] <brasko> Should I be using /dev/dsp?
[03:55] <brasko> or is there a different setup on ubuntu?
[03:55] <spacey_ki> brasko, do you system sounds work?
[03:55] <brasko> I know this card is supported nicely in ALSA
[03:55] <brasko> I''m not quite sure how to test if the systems sound works
[03:56] <spacey_ki> brasko, select eSound output plugin
[03:56] <brasko> OK, I'll try that
[03:56] <brasko> I did 'ps -ef|grep esd', and didn't see anything
[03:56] <brasko> The thing is, the card I have supports hardware mixing, so I don't think I need a sound daemon
[03:56] <spacey_ki> brasko, also recommend using a bit more recent mediaplayer. :) xmms is quite ugly & old
[03:56] <brasko> but probably a lot has changed
[03:56] <spacey_ki> brasko, then alsa should work
[03:56] <psusi> I use alsa, not esd
[03:57] <brasko> hmmm, is alsa setup by default on ubuntu?
[03:57] <spacey_ki> ofcourse
[03:57] <brasko> or is it a kernel thing know adays?
[03:57] <psusi> open the sound config pannel thing and switch to alsa and hit the test button
[03:57] <brasko> I was using an old version of debian, and had to set it up manually.
[03:57] <spacey_ki> alsa should work out of the box
[03:57] <brasko> BTW, I love ubuntu!
[03:57] <brasko> haha, I recently switched, and everything has been so easy to use, I forget I'm on linux
[03:57] <AIV> when I installed 5.10, I let partitioner auto partition, so how do I view my partition structure?
[03:57] <olicat> does anyone know if i can create an image of an entire hard disk?
[04:00] <ccooke_> olicat: Yes, you can.
[04:00] <ccooke_> olicat: there are several methods of doing it - any linux install will be able to do a simple, low-level image. There is software around that will do more advanced things, but much of it is commercial.
[04:01] <brasko> OK, silly me
[04:01] <brasko> oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Permission denied'
[04:01] <brasko> do i have to run xmms as root?
[04:01] <brasko> or should I add my user to a group?
[04:01] <slept> no add your user to audio
[04:01] <GnarlyBob> ok, so the latest knoppix boots and starts up flawlessly with the default settings in my BIOS, and without passing *any* params to the kernel... but a Ubuntu cd won't even finish booting unless I tweak some BIOS settings and tell the kernel to disable acpi
[04:01] <kemik> brasko:  shouldnt run anything as root
[04:01] <brasko> Yeah, I figured. Thanks.
[04:01] <nagyv> Hello! I use kubuntu 5.10, and my pcmcia card does not work. It was working in the past days, but now the Network Settings panel can not recognize it, athough it is found by lspci. Could someone help me?
[04:01] <ccooke_> olicat: However, if you do: 'dd if=/dev/hda of=/path/to/disk_image bs=1024k' (make sure the disk image is on a different disk!) it'll work.
[04:01] <brasko> Is there a GUI tool in ubuntu for changing group permissions? or should I modify the file myself?
[04:01] <ccooke_> (the bs=1024k will speed up the transfer)
[04:02] <kemik> brasko:  system-admin-user&groups
[04:03] <ermo> Does anyone know of a way to salavage a mail in progress in an Xorg session running amok?
[04:04] <ermo> I can log in via ssh
[04:04] <olicat> ccooke_, what if there's only one disk in the machine? ie how can i specify a different disk?
[04:04] <brasko> hhmmm, I have to log out of my X session, don't I?
[04:04] <brasko> to get the new permissions?
[04:05] <brasko> brb
[04:05] <fizzle> how would i go about displaying the temperature of my proc/mobo?
[04:06] <ccooke_> olicat: you have a problem, there. See, if you try to copy a disk to itself, it won't fit. If you have half the disk free, you can compress the output, though?
[04:06] <cvt|gnuyear> fizzle, maybe gkrellm.
[04:06] <ccooke_> olicat: to compress, use this:
[04:07] <ermo> any evolution gurus present who know some commandline magic to save a draft in a running session where the Xorg server is running amok and won't respond?
[04:07] <Jack-Ho> hey, how can i restore my iptabels setting?
[04:07] <Jack-Ho> s
[04:07] <ccooke_> olicat: dd if=/dev/hda bs=900k | bzip2 -v > disk_image.bz2
[04:08] <xester> good day
[04:08] <seanmc> channels
[04:08] <seanmc> #channes
[04:08] <Jack-Ho> hey, how can i restore my iptabels settings?
[04:08] <seanmc> #channels
[04:09] <fizzle> how would i go about displaying the temperature of my proc/mobo?
[04:09] <fizzle> and gkrellm doesnt work
[04:09] <ccooke_> Jack-Ho: You can save the settings with iptables-save > filename
[04:10] <thoreauputic> fizzle:  lm-sensors
[04:10] <Jack-Ho> no
[04:10] <ermo> fizzle, do you have i2c and lm-sensors configured properly?
[04:10] <ccooke_> Jack-Ho: to restore, iptables-restore < filename
[04:10] <Jack-Ho> sec
[04:10] <thoreauputic> fizzle: gkrellm won't work without sensors to read
[04:10] <Jack-Ho> nice
[04:10] <Jack-Ho> thanks!
[04:10] <thoreauputic> for that purpose anyway
[04:10] <fizzle> where do i get the sensors from
[04:10] <thoreauputic> !info lm-sensors
[04:11] <fizzle> !lm-sensors
[04:11] <ubotu> fizzle: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:11] <thoreauputic> hmm hang on
[04:11] <fizzle> k
[04:11] <jono> anyone have problems booting the root partition in second stage install on dapper fight 2?
[04:11] <brasko> hmm, looks like that helped
[04:11] <brasko> I got a sound on startup
[04:11] <thoreauputic> fizzle: try apt-cache search sensors
[04:11] <brasko> is that gnome?
[04:11] <Jowi> hi everyone
[04:11] <dura> Anyone run a VIA K8T800 here?
[04:12] <dura> (motherboard)
[04:12] <fizzle> the temperature sensors are installed
[04:12] <fizzle> now what? -.-
[04:12] <Jack-Ho> ccooke, how much time its takes?
[04:12] <slept> are there special repos for amd64 ?
[04:12] <jono> damn dapper won't boot
[04:12] <dura> fizzle, There is a nice howto for sensors
[04:12] <ermo> fizzle, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=howto+lm-sensors
[04:12] <thoreauputic> fizzle: there's a wiki howto on lm-sensors I think
[04:12] <dura> slept, yes
[04:12] <morphix> how do i get perl scripts to work in x-chat
[04:12] <morphix> ?
[04:12] <dura> thoreauputic, There is
[04:12] <thoreauputic> ah - forums then :)
[04:13] <ermo> thoreauputic, :)
[04:13] <fizzle> ok ty
[04:13] <ermo> fizzle, for future reference you might consider searching the forums and the wiki before asking here ;)
[04:14] <Suprano> i can't play music with amarok. it says: The gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files. You may want to choose a different engine from the Configure Dialog, or examine the installation of the multimedia-framework that the current engine uses. You may find useful information in the FAQ section of the amaroK HandBook.
[04:14] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: it's instant. It's also an effectively atomic change
[04:14] <Ng> Suprano: you need the gstreamer0.8-mad package from universe
[04:14] <nagyv> Hello! I use kubuntu 5.10, and my pcmcia card does not work. It was working in the past days, but now the Network Settings panel can not recognize it, athough it is found by lspci. Could someone help me?
[04:14] <Jack-Ho> ccooke, unn, i wana restore it to the defult
[04:14] <Jack-Ho> i dont have any filr
[04:14] <midas> hi all
[04:14] <Jack-Ho> e
[04:14] <Jack-Ho> :
[04:14] <thoreauputic> ubotu is wrong - the package lm-sensors *does* exist - just saw it in apt-cache search :|
[04:14] <ubotu> thoreauputic: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:14] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: iptables -F ; iptables -t nat -F ; iptables -t mangle -F
[04:15] <midas> can somebody tell me how to install java ??
[04:15] <thoreauputic> ubotu evidently :)
[04:15] <ubotu> thoreauputic: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:15] <Jack-Ho> in sudo?
[04:15] <thoreauputic> !botsnack
[04:15] <ubotu> :)
[04:15] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: unless you've been playing around a lot, that'll flush (empty) the iptables config
[04:15] <Suprano> Ng: amarok-gstreamer - GStreamer engine for the amaroK audio player
[04:15] <Suprano>   ?
[04:15] <brasko> OK, so, now I'm not getting permission denied for the audio group
[04:15] <Ng> Suprano: no, take a look at teh RestrictedFormats wiki page
[04:15] <Jowi> ubotu, tell midas about java
[04:15] <Jack-Ho> ccooke, in sudo?
[04:15] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: you need to run each of those three commands under sudo. Make sure this won't break your networking, though.
[04:15] <brasko> and I can cat /dev/dsp
[04:15] <Jack-Ho> ccooke, brake my net?
[04:16] <Jack-Ho> waht do you mean?
[04:16] <ermo> any evolution gurus present who know some commandline magic to save a draft in a running session where the Xorg server is running amok and won't respond?
[04:16] <Suprano> ok
[04:16] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: well, if you're connecting to the internet through this system, it may be doing something like NAT. Turn that off and any computer trying to connect *through* the firewall you're changing will suddenly stop working.
[04:19] <olicat> ccooke, thanks for the input
[04:20] <Suprano> hmm Ng, the cmd apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad doesn't work .. do i need additional sources ?
[04:20] <Suprano> (as root)
[04:20] <Jowi> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:20] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[04:20] <Jowi> Suprano: add universe to the repos
[04:21] <vmware> #italia
[04:21] <vmware> ciao
[04:22] <Jack-Ho> ccooke, iptables v1.3.1: Unknown arg `-t'
[04:22] <Jack-Ho>  :|
[04:22] <Jack-Ho> never mid
[04:22] <AIV> I have a qemu question, is anyone in here good with qemu?
[04:22] <Suprano> ok
[04:22] <thoreauputic> psusi: :)
[04:22] <thoreauputic> psusi: I'm training bogofilter
[04:22] <ermo> psusi, yes, the 7z compression scheme is 'rather' efficient ;)
[04:23] <Jack-Ho> :\
[04:23] <thoreauputic> psusi: I will, however archive  them appropriately after bogofilter does its stuff
[04:23] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: look at the three commands again
[04:23] <vmware> hi
[04:23] <ccooke> bah.
[04:24] <jo_> good afternoon. could some one help me with apache & php not parsing the php files?
[04:24] <Seveas> jo_, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[04:25] <snk00sj-> httpd.conf
[04:25] <Seveas> and restart apache
[04:25] <Suprano> is there a way to shu off the lock so i can use more then 1 apt-get command at the same time ?
[04:25] <Seveas> that's all
[04:25] <Seveas> Suprano, no
[04:25] <jo_> I'm using php4
[04:25] <Seveas> jo_, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[04:25] <Jowi> Suprano: no
[04:25] <Seveas> and restart apache
[04:25] <Seveas> Suprano, the lock is there for a reason...
[04:25] <Suprano> hrm
[04:25] <Suprano> ok
[04:25] <psusi> for text like email, 7zip in ppmd mode works much faster than lzma mode... and compresses about as well
[04:25] <jo_> I did it all and ven created simlinks to mods-enabled
[04:26] <Seveas> jo_, if the symlinks in mods-enabled are there, you just need to restert aapche
[04:26] <brasko> when I open xmms I get
[04:26] <brasko> libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:26] <brasko> has anyone seen that before?
[04:26] <jo_> Which i did. /etc/init.d/apache2 restart whith no success :(
[04:27] <Seveas> jo_, ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[04:27] <Myrtti> try httpd restart
[04:27] <GenghisKhan> brasko: how did you install xmms
[04:27] <Seveas> output on the pastebin
[04:27] <brasko> through the package managaer
[04:27] <brasko> synaptic
[04:27] <jo_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 36 2006-01-04 15:12 cgi.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/cgi.load
[04:27] <jo_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 37 2006-01-04 15:08 php4.conf -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf
[04:27] <jo_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 37 2006-01-04 15:09 php4.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.load
[04:27] <jo_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 40 2005-11-21 11:40 userdir.conf -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf
[04:27] <jo_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 40 2005-11-21 11:40 userdir.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.load
[04:28] <brasko> I was wondering, does anyone use freeNX, and get sound through it?
[04:28] <Pheinox> thanks for your time
[04:28] <Pheinox> totem now works ok
[04:28] <brasko> I installed freeNX cause everyone here was raving about it. It's really great.
[04:28] <GenghisKhan> brasko: you need to install libmikmod for xmms to work
[04:28] <brasko> wierd
[04:28] <brasko> I guess synaptic should know about that, eh?
[04:29] <Seveas> since when is pastebin too difficult...
[04:29] <Pheinox> still im thinking of making a script to automate install of complement decoders for totem/mplayer/xmms/etc
[04:29] <Seveas> don't
[04:29] <luk3> hey does anyone knows if ubuntu 5.10 works in a 64 bits machine?
[04:29] <Seveas> use a pacjage, not a script
[04:29] <luk3> also...
[04:29] <brasko> SHould I install libmikmod2 or libmikmod2-dev
[04:29] <Seveas> (hint: ubuntu-multimedia-gnome from my repo ;))
[04:29] <GenghisKhan> brasko: libmikmod2
[04:30] <Seveas> luk3, sure
[04:30] <jo_>   sorry connection dropped
[04:30] <Pheinox> Seveas, what is pacjage ?
[04:30] <Seveas> package*
[04:30] <brasko> GenghisKhan: should I create a bug report for the xmms package?
[04:30] <luk3> i gotta a problem with my optical mouse
[04:30] <luk3> it's freezing after logging in..
[04:30] <GenghisKhan> brasko: it has libmikmod2 marked as recommend
[04:30] <blue-frog> Pheinox, automatix has done it already, you can also copy all the info on the wiki and put that in a script..
[04:30] <jo_> Seveas: I'm using kubuntu which I think is not an issue
[04:30] <thoreauputic> jo_: actually seveas kicked you out for pasting
[04:31] <luk3> i am fresh at linux systems so.....
[04:31] <Seveas> jo_, pasting into the channel is an issue
[04:31] <GenghisKhan> if it won't boot without it installed you should fill in a bug report
[04:31] <Seveas> NEVER do that
[04:31] <Pheinox> Seveas, i call from packages still i dont want to do it by hand... so using a script calling apt-get and change the universe and multiverse stuff is simpler just having a script doing it iall
[04:31] <jo_> Ok as you asked for an ls :)
[04:31] <brasko> GenghisKhan: Thanks! that fixed the problem.
[04:31] <Seveas> Pheinox, such scripts break thing
[04:31] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I've never, in my life, had such efficeint help with linux.
[04:31] <Seveas> look at the automatix and easybreezy disasters
[04:31] <brasko> GenghisKhan: So, it appears to be running, but I don't hear anything (I'm remote)
[04:31] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[04:31] <ubotu> I guess automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[04:32] <brasko> So, I suppose freeNX doesn't forward sound? I don't know.
[04:32] <GenghisKhan> brasko: of course! when that happens, use packages.ubuntu.com to find the package wich has the file you lack
[04:32] <Pheinox> blue-frog, I see ... im just using ubundu's liveCD when i want to run on other machines that i dont ow
[04:32] <Seveas> those are such scripts and they triggered massive amounts of reinstalls already
[04:32] <Seveas> brasko, it does
[04:32] <GenghisKhan> brasko: then you'll need to setup remote sound
[04:32] <Pheinox> Seveas, what would it break
[04:32] <nagyv> Hello!I use Ubuntu 5.10 with KDE, and have a pcmcia problem. It is recognized by the system, but I can not enable it. Although it was working in the past days without any problems. Have can I try to enable it from the console?
[04:32] <brasko> I clicked on the button. The wierd thing is, I had sound when gnome started.
[04:32] <Seveas> Pheinox, quite a lot
[04:32] <brasko> And it appears that xmms is working, but I don't hear anything
[04:32] <Pheinox> Seveas, ui cant see how that would brak a liveCD run
[04:33] <thoreauputic> brasko: change the output plugin to esound
[04:33] <GenghisKhan> brasko: configure xmms to use gnome's sound daemon
[04:33] <aTypical> Hello.  Did anyone here using Dapper experience a locale issue when doing a dist-upgrade?  If so, can you tell me how you fixed it?
[04:33] <Pheinox> having the sript on my own maching at home etc and remotely accessing it from a live CD to enable totem to play all files etc
[04:33] <Suprano> yuhu amarok plays music :))
[04:33] <Pheinox> just to bypass some wierd license philosophy
[04:33] <Suprano> is wmv decoded too?
[04:33] <brasko> OK, I'll try that, but I really didn't enjoy using the sound daemon's
[04:34] <brasko> which is why I bought the sound card that I have, to get hardware mixing
[04:34] <GenghisKhan> brasko: you'll need sound daemon for remote sound
[04:34] <jo_> Seveas: Any idea?
[04:34] <GenghisKhan> brasko: btw which card did you bought?
[04:35] <brasko> GenghisKhan: Wow, switching to esound definatly made me get sound.
[04:35] <flogiston> Is gnome-terminal and xfterm4 the same?
[04:35] <brasko> GenghisKhan: That's crazy!
[04:36] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I don't understand why.
[04:36] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I bought the SB Live! EMU10k1 card
[04:36] <GenghisKhan> brasko: because esound does the remote sound thing and /dev/dsp not
[04:36] <thoreauputic> flogiston: appears to be
[04:36] <meepy> How do I compile my C code, when I try the "gcc -o test.c" it i get "No files" or soemthing? :/
[04:36] <GenghisKhan> meepy: gcc test.c -o test
[04:36] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I see. Well, it's very impressive.
[04:36] <thoreauputic> flogiston: if it's any different I can't see the difference :)
[04:36] <gnomefreak> for missing packages during update to fix isnt the command apt-get upgrade --fix missing?
[04:36] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I can't really believe it.
[04:37] <psusi> gcc -o output_file_name input.c
[04:37] <kemik> meepy:  -o defines the name of the binary
[04:37] <Ng> brasko: weird, I have a Live and I don't need to use esd or anything to get sound (in fact I positively choose not to because like you I don't like sound servers)
[04:37] <Manifold> Guys, I can't figure out how to remove the HD icons from my desktop.
[04:37] <flogiston> Becaus i have xfce4-utils installed and i just uninstalled gnome-terminal and i can't start xfterm4 from run.
[04:37] <Ng> Manifold: there's a gconf key you can set for that...
[04:37] <meepy> se
[04:37] <meepy> c
[04:37] <kemik> Manifold:  unmount ;)
[04:37] <gnomefreak> Manifold, right click it send to wastebasket
[04:37] <Manifold> Noo.
[04:37] <brasko> Ng: I remote right now. I'm using freeNX.
[04:37] <Manifold> It doesn't let me, gnomefreak
[04:38] <Manifold> I browse to the Desktop folder and it aint there.
[04:38] <brasko> Ng: So, I'm at work, and can listen to the sound I'm playing at home via xmms
[04:38] <Suprano> how can i let more then 1 app use the sound uotput ?
[04:38] <Ng> Manifold: Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor, then browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and untick volumes_visible
[04:38] <Ng> brasko: ahh, yes you'll need a sound server for that ;)
[04:38] <brasko> FreeNX is absolutly amazing.
[04:39] <GenghisKhan> vnc & remote X is enough for me
[04:39] <Manifold> Thanks Ng.
[04:39] <brasko> Ng: I don't know, coming from user older systems, it took me *forever* to setup the sound, so that multiple apps could use it. Buying that card was the cheapest/quickest solutoin back then.
[04:39] <Jowi> Suprano: in gnome you tell the apps to use esd, in kde it should be arts ( right? )
[04:39] <Ng> brasko: it still is
[04:40] <Ng> brasko: it's surprising that roughly a decade after the emu10k1 first came out in a soundcard that most others haven't started hardware mixing yet ;/
[04:40] <_ian_> hi which ubuntu application is like an organizer?
[04:40] <Ng> _ian_: Evolution can handle contacts, calenders and todo lists?
[04:40] <Seveas> _ian_, evolution
[04:40] <kemik> _ian_:  evolution perhaps?
[04:40] <Suprano> Jowi, i use alsa
[04:40] <Seveas> Ng, kemik, :)
[04:40] <GenghisKhan> brasko: i have a intel card and i setup dmix and all the apps with alsa share the sound now
[04:41] <kemik> i blame lag!
[04:41] <kemik> :>
[04:41] <Suprano> Jowi,  amarok says: alsa device default is already used by an other program
[04:41] <flogiston> Where do  configure xterm?
[04:41] <Suprano> so i have to use esd ??
[04:41] <Suprano> instead of alsa ?
[04:41] <Jowi> Suprano: me too. but alsa only support hardware mixing if your soundcard can do it itself. esd and arts do software mixing if you need it but your card does not support it in hardware.
[04:41] <gnomefreak> ok cant figure this out :(( i tried apt-get --fix missing but it didnt work :((
[04:42] <Suprano> i thought my soundcard can do it.. ac97 onboard..
[04:42] <Jowi> Suprano: at least that's what i've understood from it all
[04:42] <joshi> Is Unreal Tournament GOTY on 2 cds?
[04:43] <GenghisKhan> Suprano: mine is ac97 also and cannot
[04:43] <jo_> Anyone has any idea on how to get php files parsed?
[04:43] <GenghisKhan> Suprano: you can setup dmix
[04:43] <_ian_> hmmm....like a journal?
[04:43] <_ian_> anyways ill try it thanks
[04:44] <Suprano> dmix, a software mixer ?
[04:44] <GenghisKhan> Suprano: dmix is alsa's superfast software mixer
[04:45] <meepy> Is there any libs I need for when compiling C code? (Sorry total newbie)
[04:45] <GenghisKhan> meepy: libc. install build-essential
[04:45] <thoreauputic> meepy:  install build-essential  for a start
[04:45] <thoreauputic> ;)
[04:45] <meepy> Thanks, I give it a try
[04:45] <Suprano> GenghisKhan, can you give me a hint where i can find this?
[04:45] <morphix> any video i play in totem.. is in fast motion
[04:45] <Jowi> dmix not found in the repos
[04:46] <morphix> any reasons why?
[04:46] <thoreauputic> dmix isn't a package
[04:46] <GenghisKhan> Suprano: one sec, let me look for it
[04:46] <thoreauputic> it's part of alsa
[04:46] <Suprano> ok
[04:46] <Jowi> ah. is dmix activated by default?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> well that was no help :((
[04:46] <GenghisKhan> Jowi: no
[04:46] <AtomicB_> anyone have any experince getting twin view working on an Nvidia card? (using a 6800GT)
[04:47] <Jowi> how can it be set up? alsactl has no reference of it
[04:47] <GenghisKhan> Suprano: have a look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Jowi: no, you use a ~/.asoundrc file or an /etc/  file
[04:47] <Jowi> thoreauputic: ah, alright
[04:47] <flogiston> Whats the terminal of you choice?
[04:47] <aTypical> gnome-terminal. :-)
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Jowi:  /usr/share/doc/libasound2/examples/asound.conf_dmix
[04:48] <GenghisKhan> flogiston: yakuake
[04:48] <Jowi> cheers thoreauputic
[04:48] <flogiston> I like to find one thats light configureble and has transparancy.
[04:48] <gnomefreak> what is synaptics smart upgrade
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Jowi: from memory that's a good starting point
[04:49] <thoreauputic> flogiston: aterm, Eterm, urxvt
[04:49] <Jowi> thoreauputic: yep, that basicly covers it :)
[04:49] <brasko> OK, well it is definatly working.
[04:49] <riccardo> Hi. I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.12-10. But it doesn't boot. I get "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS". Solution?
[04:49] <brasko> For some reason, when I start the sound though, I can't stop it.
[04:49] <thoreauputic> flogiston: to get transparency you ude the -tr option
[04:49] <thoreauputic> *use
[04:49] <brasko> xmms becomes unresponsive, and even when I kill it, it keeps playing
[04:49] <brasko> Probably freeNX just stinks for this sort of thing?
[04:50] <GenghisKhan> brasko: dunno. test other player maybe
[04:50] <brasko> GenghisKhan: haha, I don't even know any. Do you have an example of a good one?
[04:51] <meepy> thoreauputic: I got it installed, still got some errors, can't I get like all the libs? Hehe
[04:51] <GenghisKhan> brasko: of course. mplayer :-)
[04:51] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I've been using xmms for so long, and I use winamp on windows.
[04:51] <thoreauputic> meepy: it depends what you are compiling really
[04:51] <brasko> GenghisKhan: ouch, not installed by default.
[04:52] <thoreauputic> meepy: you might want to install xlibs-dev and a few others
[04:52] <GenghisKhan> brasko: just joking. mplayer has no gui
[04:52] <jo_> Can someone give an help please?
[04:52] <diesel> Anyone know how to get mms (streaming video) to play within firefox?
[04:52] <GenghisKhan> brasko: well, gmplayer, but is a gui for playing videos
[04:52] <GenghisKhan> brasko: if you want a real player use amarok
[04:52] <meepy> thoreauputic: got it already, okay, thanks anyway
[04:52] <brasko> GenghisKhan: OK, I'll look at it
[04:53] <AtomicB_> anyone have any experince getting twin view working on an Nvidia card? (using a 6800GT) sorry, but getting bored of having a garbled second display :D
[04:53] <thoreauputic> meepy: if the compiler complains about libs, look for -dev lib ( eg libfoo-dev)
[04:54] <Jowi> thoreauputic, Suprano : simply copied the example file to ~/.asound and it works flawlessly.
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Jowi: yup that's more or less what I did too :)
[04:54] <brasko> GenghisKhan: amarok is for KDE, I'd have to install tons of stuff I think
[04:54] <GenghisKhan> brasko: gnome has a similar player called rythmbox
[04:55] <thoreauputic> brasko: amarok is a very nice player indeed - it's worth the KDE libs download
[04:55] <Jowi> diesel: I installed realplayer from real.com
[04:55] <flogiston> yakuake seems nice.
[04:56] <thoreauputic> brasko: but other players are lighter on resources
[04:56] <flogiston> But i can't write in it and it crashes when adding reomiving tabs
[04:56] <GenghisKhan> flogiston: i have no problems with it
[04:56] <orhs> hey guys i need som help with this "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card"
[04:57] <GenghisKhan> flogiston: maybe you have not installed konsole. it uses a konsole kpart
[04:57] <flogiston> Ok maybe it's because i'm not running KDE.
[04:57] <gnomefreak> flogiston, thats a good reason :)
[04:58] <Stork> how can i write an iso to a disk in ubuntu
[04:58] <Suprano> ahm
[04:58] <orhs> when i acces the network configurator i see the card but it takes long time to activate and when i close network configurator and re-open it the card is no longer active
[04:58] <flogiston> Whats kpart?
[04:58] <Ng> Stork: right click on it and choose Write To Disc
[04:58] <slept> how do I specify amd64 for sources.list ? is there a 64bit irc channel ?
[04:58] <Ng> slept: you don't, apt chooses the architecture itself
[04:58] <gnomefreak> flogiston, kpart is a partionign tool like gparted i think
[04:59] <GenghisKhan> flogiston: kpart is a kde system to embed one app into another. for example, both konqui and akregator use khtml so you can use the to render html
[04:59] <brasko> Thansk guys. See you later.
[04:59] <flogiston> Ahaa.
[05:00] <davidwinter_> hey all. are there nVidia drivers available for ubuntu? I'd like to play a game (Enemy Territory).
[05:00] <flogiston> Where can i find the config file for yakauke?
[05:00] <Suprano> Jowi, i have a 0 [nForce2        ] : NFORCE - NVidia nForce2
[05:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell davidwinter_ about nvidia
[05:00] <Suprano> Jowi,  so hardware mixing should be possible..
[05:00] <davidwinter_> thanks gnomefreak
[05:00] <davidwinter_> :)
[05:00] <gnomefreak> yw david
[05:01] <Suprano> Jowi, i want to use my digital output..
[05:01] <Manifold> Why can't I select sound drivers in Rhythmbox?
[05:01] <slept> ng so how apt know what to download ?
[05:01] <Jowi> Suprano: ok. well. i'm no soundcard expert :)
[05:01] <Suprano> i need one ;)
[05:01] <orhs> i bought this "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" it takes long time to activate and when i close the networking application (system, adm, networking) and re-open it the card is no longer activated.
[05:02] <Ng> slept: I'm not entirely sure, but I assume it is set when its compiled. I am picking up that you want to use apt to install the 64bit version over the 32bit version - if so, don't ;)
[05:03] <Jowi> Suprano: did the .asoundrc file not work for you?
[05:03] <Suprano> no
[05:03] <Jowi> :(
[05:03] <Suprano> .. maybee because i have digital sound..
[05:03] <Suprano> GenghisKhan, i getting crazy.. i have no idea what to do.. i just know i have a 0 [nForce2        ] : NFORCE - NVidia nForce2
[05:03] <Suprano>  card and i want more then 1 program playing sound. I turned asla on some where and i created a configurationfile in which i told asla to use the digital output..
[05:05] <slept> Ng: no i was looking at the sources.list and i was wondering how the available 64 bit things get chosen
[05:05] <Ng> slept: by having a 64bit apt I believe
[05:05] <orhs> hey guys can i have som help plz? i see my wifi card in the networking section but even when its activated it dosen't work(the card deactivates itself when i re-open the networking application)
[05:05] <davidwinter_> how do I know if I'm running the 386 or 686 kernel?
[05:06] <slept> davidwinter_: uname -r
[05:06] <davidwinter_> 2.6.12-10-386
[05:06] <davidwinter_> 386 then ;) thanks slept
[05:07] <gnomefreak> days like today i miss breezy
[05:07] <slept> Ng: thanks
[05:08] <pa_l> #mysql
[05:08] <tRSS> is there an app out there that would tell me the name and artist of the song by analyzing the music/sound itself?
[05:08] <pa_l> hi is there any between syntax for mysql?
[05:09] <Ng> pa_l: mysql.com has extensive documentation with syntax and examples
[05:09] <morphix> tRSS: that would be some pretty high-tech stuff
[05:10] <Jowi> tRSS: the closest you will probably find is the cdplayer that downloads the cd song info from an internet database.
[05:10] <stark-johan> Is it possible to install debian binary packages (deb-files) if there is no synaptic package to install? I saw somebody posting a debian package at the forums as an alternative but I want to be sure before I try to install it.
[05:10] <deep> i have a problem with all my media players
[05:10] <pi9inE> Hi all! I'm back again. So I've downloaded DVD .iso offical one from offical web.  Always same problem. Yesterday I had this problem with CD .iso. Please, help me out, I wanna install and try Linux.
[05:10] <Jowi> stark-johan: "sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb"
[05:10] <deep> they dont play any format... could anybody tell me what to do
[05:10] <tRSS> morphix: I have heard of musixbrainz or something like that, but I am not sure if that will do? I have alot of track 1 (syntax) songs and I have lost the original CDs to know the artist info
[05:11] <slept> !mp3
[05:11] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:11] <cyphase> deep, you probably have to install gstreamer and all it's plugins
[05:11] <stark-johan> Jowi > yep, I got that but is it a "dumb" way to install or are the debian packages for any program usable with ubuntu?
[05:12] <blue-frog> pi9inE, install from hdd. look in the wiki to find out how
[05:12] <Jowi> stark-johan: from my experience "most" debian packages work if you have the correct dependencies for it as well. that is, if the deb is fairly recent it probably work fine. but that's an unofficial answer from me :)
[05:12] <Ng> stark-johan: you should be very careful using third party .deb's - if it's not from the ubuntu repositories then it may well not work
[05:12] <pi9inE> blue-forg: thanks, I'll try. btw. I've cleaned my 2nd partition of HDD, now is there 23,6Gb would be this enough?
[05:13] <blue-frog> pi9inE, y
[05:13] <pi9inE> blue-frog: thanks dude
[05:13] <Jowi> stark-johan: the ubunto repos has a vast amount of software already. best/safe bet is to use them first of all
[05:14] <ILF_> anyone know a working .deb / repo for k9copy? marillat's doesn't work in breezy :(
[05:15] <Jowi> stark-johan: if I don't find it in the repos, and it doesn't work well with the deb, I usually find the sources and take it from there.
[05:15] <stark-johan> Ng, Jowi > As an example the latest version of ScummVM available via synaptic is 0.7.1 but at the official homepage of ScummVM they have newer debian packages. Is compiling from source better than a debian package?
[05:15] <Badm4n> anyone know the packaged ( the good one ) for bug management like as http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/other/eventum/ or http://flyspray.rocks.cc/
[05:15] <joshi> is there some program that burns mdf/mds files on cd's for linux?
[05:16] <ForceAbuser> i got a hda3 partiton, wich i formattd as fat32, i see it on my desktop, and i could acces it, now yesterday somebody told me to enable write rights on it or so, how do i do this?
[05:16] <Jowi> stark-johan: no idea about that specific one.
[05:16] <stark-johan> Jowi > But in general?
[05:17] <Ng> stark-johan: compiling from source may be better - you just need to accept and realise that if you're going to experiment with these things, they might break ;)
[05:17] <Kibou> joshi: no
[05:18] <Jowi> stark-johan: there is no "in general" for that. compiling from source is most a safe bet, but I use unofficial debs as well since i am lazy and my system is only a hobby one
[05:18] <Jowi> Ng is right about that one
[05:18] <Suprano> grmllinux just crashed
[05:18] <Suprano> but now the sound works O_o
[05:18] <deep> got another problem... why the heck doesnt my pc save my dns server i have to change it every 20 minutes or somethin
[05:18] <Ng> the only other thing worth keeping in mind is that third party debs make dist-upgrading harder, so you might want to remove them before you upgrade when dapper releases
[05:19] <stark-johan> Jowi, Ng > I don't mind experimenting as long as I don't risk to screw my system up completely.... but should an installation go wrong or not work. How can I uninstall after a "make install" or/and "dpkg -i"?
[05:19] <Badm4n> anyone know the packaged ( the good one ) for bug management like as http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/other/eventum/ or http://flyspray.rocks.cc/
[05:19] <Suprano> but still only 1 app can use the sound
[05:19] <Ng> stark-johan: dpkg -r or make uninstall usually
[05:19] <joshi> Kibou thnx
[05:19] <Jowi> stark-johan: apt-get remove packagename or use synaptic. after you install it with dpkg -i it will show up in the list
[05:19] <Ng> stark-johan: if you don't start replacing core system libraries/applications you ought to be fine really, especially if you're building them yourself
[05:20] <psusi> Badm4n: I use mantis
[05:20] <stark-johan> The debian pkg's show up in synaptic? Cool, I had no idea.
[05:20] <Jowi> stark-johan: if you do compile from source, remember to keep that directory so you can uninstall it.
[05:20] <Badm4n> url ?
[05:20] <Ng> stark-johan: in the Local or Obsolete section
[05:21] <Badm4n> so i can check the demo
[05:21] <rance> I need to ask a question about a new kubuntu install, yea I know, that damn kde :-) well this has to do with scanner recognition...sudo scanimage -L can detect my scanner, but scanimage -L cant, so why cant a regular user use a scanner?
[05:22] <bakpao> www.mantisbt.org
[05:22] <stark-johan> Jowi, Ng > Thanks for all the tips. I'll try them out right away.
[05:22] <Jowi> stark-johan: you're welcome
[05:23] <stark-johan> One last qeustion, what kind of sources shoul I use in case there are alternatives? (tar.bz2, tar.gz, zip, rpm)
[05:23] <Jowi> rance: is the user in the scanner group?
[05:23] <Manifold> I've asked this before, but which directory are programs installed to?
[05:23] <deep> got another problem... why the heck doesnt my pc save my dns server i have to change it every 20 minutes or somethin
[05:23] <rance> Jowi, no, didnt know there was a scanner group
[05:24] <rance> but I know how to fix it if that is the problem
[05:24] <Jowi> stark-johan: doesn't matter. tar.gz/bz2/zip are safe
[05:24] <stark-johan> Ok, thanks again.
[05:24] <ForceAbuser> "6.12.
[05:24] <ForceAbuser> How do I change files/folders permissions?
[05:24] <ForceAbuser> Right click the file or folder. Select the Properties option. Select the Permissions tab. For the Owner, Group and Others check/uncheck the Read, Write, Execute options to set or unset permissions."
[05:24] <Jowi> rance: cat /etc/group, edit as needed
[05:24] <pi9inE> blue-frog: I can't find how to install from HDD, sorry :( can you help me please?
[05:25] <Badm4n> hmmm
[05:25] <ForceAbuser> only i see the crosses in grey (non editable)(oops, that should be one line....,)
[05:26] <rance> deep: what dns server are you using?
[05:26] <Badm4n> mantis <--- is this fit on bug management for software/aplication bug tracking ?
[05:26] <Manifold> I've asked this before, but which directory are programs installed to?
[05:26] <deep> its sthing in egypt
[05:26] <psusi> Badm4n: yes... it's a bug tracking package
[05:26] <Rubin> Manifold: its complex, but try /usr/bin/
[05:26] <Manifold> Thank you.
[05:27] <Rubin> also, dpkg -L packagename <-- shows you all the files that package installed
[05:27] <deep> rance. its some server in egypt
[05:27] <pawdro> hi, im trying to run gdm as a root: but i get error: gdm_config_parse:Authdir /var/lib/gdm deos not exist. Aborting.
[05:27] <pawdro> what to do?
[05:27] <rance> manifold, most non-X programs are in /usr/bin admin (root) only are in /usr/sbin or /sbin X related stuff goes in /usr/xorg/bin
[05:28] <pawdro> to fix it
[05:28] <rance> just look around till you find it
[05:28] <Rubin> pawdro: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:28] <Nomikos> having issues installing Ubuntu on a powerbook, installer gives error that it can't find the cd rom, even though it booted from it.. no floppy drive. is a network install doable?
[05:29] <rance> deep: you mean you dont control your own dns server, or do you mean that you are running your own dns server for a network and its losing connection to the master dns
[05:29] <Nomikos> seems to be a known debian installer issue, something with SATA drivers being loaded in the wrong order
[05:30] <Rubin> Nomikos: you may have to make a custom install cd with a kernel which doesnt do it, or maybe a boot paramiter could fix it somehow?
[05:30] <pawdro> and nothing happened
[05:31] <pawdro> the same error: gdm_config_parse
[05:31] <bakpao> !id
[05:31] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[05:31] <Jowi> pawdro: try to reinstall gdm
[05:31] <Rubin> pawdro: did you install gdm with apt?
[05:32] <pawdro> Rubin: by default instalator
[05:32] <Badm4n> is mantis like http://flyspray.rocks.cc/ or http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/other/eventum/ ?
[05:32] <Rubin> pawdro: like jowi says, try re-installing; apt-get remove --purge gdm; apt-get install gdm
[05:32] <deep> rrance, what happens is that everytime i log in... i have to write the dns server again in the ethernet connection winow(meaning i write this every time <IP_ADDRESS>  and the alternative dns server too )
[05:33] <Rubin> deep: sounds like its being overwritten by the DHCP client
[05:33] <deep> Rubin: what could i do
[05:33] <Rubin> deep: theres a way to tell it not to, but im afraid i dont remember what it is, sorry :/
[05:33] <Jowi> deep: sudo network-admin and enter the DNS manually solve it?
[05:34] <Jowi> hmmm, forgot a "does" in that sentence :)
[05:34] <rance> ok, yea, that is your network configuration somehow, DHCP can send gateway, nameserver, and even hostname if configured to do so, but the client needs to be able to use only what it needs
[05:34] <pawdro> Rubin: the same problem
[05:35] <Nomikos> hmm.. can I boot from CD, then install from network? if so, do I need a custom CD? and how do I get one :-)
[05:35] <rance> I'd double check the network setup and make sure your custom dns is not overwritten by dhcp
[05:35] <pawdro> but when i want to log as a normal user i cant, but get: Unable to cd to "/home/user"
[05:36] <Jowi> pawdro: did you by any chance re-install the system without formatting the /home/ partition? if so, the users id numbers may be messed up...
[05:36] <deep> rance: do wanna tell me that if i am using dhcp it would overwrite my dns server .. so all i have to do is cancel dns server and do it manually
[05:37] <jose> hhhhh
[05:37] <}MatriX{> hello
[05:37] <}MatriX{> ubuntu
[05:37] <pawdro> no way Jowi
[05:38] <rance> no deep, do a man on your dhcp client and look at the command options
[05:38] <rance> then edit your network setup script to only get the options you want
[05:38] <Jowi> pawdro: ok, just a shot in the dark.
[05:38] <rance> then the rest will remain the same
[05:38] <jahshua--> hey anyone here use Limewire with Ubuntu  ?
[05:38] <Suprano> Jowi, how to use the spdif output with esd ???
[05:39] <davidwinter2> hey all. I got my nvidia drivers working, but no sound is working in Enemy Territory game. Though it's working in gnome, like when I click on things etc...
[05:39] <davidwinter2> do I need to install special sound drivers for games? :/
[05:39] <monzie> hi all
[05:39] <}MatriX{> anyone
[05:39] <gnomefreak> damnit
[05:39] <}MatriX{> knows
[05:39] <Suprano> davidwinter2, maybee esd helps you .. system -> prefs -> multimediasys
[05:40] <Jowi> Suprano: don't know, I don't use esd at all
[05:40] <pawdro> Jowi: i assume that i have to reinstall whole system
[05:40] <}MatriX{> hMm
[05:40] <}MatriX{> anyone
[05:40] <}MatriX{> knows
[05:40] <}MatriX{> vmware
[05:40] <Suprano> hrm
[05:40] <Jowi> pawdro: i doubt it
[05:40] <Rubin> davidwinter2: either configure the game to use the 'esound' daemon to play sounds, or configure gnome to let go of the sound device when its not being used, so that the game can use it
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ahhh its fixed
[05:40] <Jowi> pawdro: maybe the gdm config files is not overwritten when gdm is re-installed...?
[05:41] <davidwinter2> Rubin, do I do that in the Multimedia Systems Selector?
[05:41] <Rubin> pawdro: did you do it with --purge?
[05:41] <pawdro> Jowi: yes
[05:41] <davidwinter2> Suprano, I'm in there
[05:41] <}MatriX{> hMM
[05:41] <pawdro> as it was mentioned
[05:41] <Rubin> davidwinter2: no
[05:41] <Suprano> davidwinter2, that was just a hint, i have trouble myself getting this running
[05:42] <davidwinter2> Suprano, ah I see
[05:42] <jahshua--> hey anyone here use Limewire with Ubuntu  ?
[05:42] <Jowi> pawdro: does any other work, like xdm, wdm, kdm ?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> jahshua--,  i recall a wiki page about it.
[05:42] <DShepherd> jahshua--: sure
[05:43] <geoffTheFish> has anybody managed to get a usb microphone working?
[05:43] <pawdro> i only have gnome
[05:43] <pawdro> Jowi: i cant even lag as a normal user
[05:43] <pawdro> :/
[05:43] <davidwinter2> Rubin, can't see a setting in the game to use 'esound' so I'll need to configure gnome... is there a preference window for that?
[05:44] <monzie> i need help with desktop environments..
[05:44] <Rubin> davidwinter2: hmm i cant find where, maybe it was from the previous ubuntu release and its gone somewhere else
[05:44] <Jowi> pawdro: what is the exact error?
[05:44] <monzie> should i used GNOME or KDE?
[05:44] <jahshua--> GNOME
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  use them both - then decide what you like.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  i mix and match gnome and kde apps on whatever desktop i use
[05:44] <monzie> hmm Dr_Willis ..
[05:45] <pawdro> Jowi: if i want to log as a "user" i get Unable to cd "/home/user"
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> its not a "one or the other" type of thing.
[05:45] <Jowi> monzie: don't listen to them. this is the most important decision in your life. use ice-wm so you don't end up in the desktop war!!!
[05:45] <monzie> but doesn't using both make them slow?? Dr_Willis
[05:45] <jahshua--> i cant find limewire when i search synaptic and i have all the repos open
[05:45] <jahshua--> :/
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  not really.
[05:45] <jahshua--> can anyone help me out
[05:45] <pawdro> Jowi: if i want to start gdm (as a root ofcourse) i get: gdm_config_parse: Authdir /var/lib/gdm does not exist. Aborting.
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> jahshua--,  check the wiki in the  p2p section yet?
[05:46] <monzie> i have seen that KDE apps take a lot of time to load in GNOME and vice-versa Dr_Willis
[05:46] <pawdro> Jowi: the same with /etc/init.d/gdm
[05:46] <Rubin> pawdro: sounds like your install got borked somehow
[05:46] <monzie> Hey Jowi , what about XFCE?
[05:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tha's because KDE apps take a long time to load ;)
[05:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> GO GNOME
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  yes. both of them have several 'support' programs that run in the background.
[05:46] <pawdro> Rubin: but the system was used by this user
[05:46] <jahshua--> Dr_Willis do you have a link, i dont know which wiki you are referring to :/
[05:46] <Jowi> pawdro: it seems like gdm is not installed
[05:46] <Rubin> pawdro: could be a permissions problem
[05:46] <pawdro> Rubin: and sometime ago something's broken as you see
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> XFCE4 for example can preload the gnome and kde services - so you dont novice it.
[05:47] <Rubin> pawdro: ls -ld /home/username
[05:47] <Rubin> is it there?
[05:47] <monzie> and KDE apps look horrible in GNOME and vice versa Dr_Willis too!
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> jahshua--,  go to the wiki page  and use the search feature
[05:47] <pawdro> Rubin: i gave 777 to /home/eser
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  set your themes corectly
[05:47] <Jowi> monzie: actually, xfce4, gnome, kde, icewm, fluxbox, sawfish are all good. just different
[05:47] <Rubin> pawdro: i dont deal in binary file permissions, sorry :)
[05:47] <jahshua--> Dr_Willis which wiki page ?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> I  got mine set - where i can barely tell if an app is gnome or kde.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> jahshua--,  the one in the Topic perhaps.. THE ubuntu wiki page.
[05:48] <pawdro> Rubin and i did it recursively
[05:48] <AtomicB_> woah.. anyone else had problems using the nvidia driver? I just tried it and just get a blank screen :(
[05:48] <Rubin> pawdro: whats 777?
[05:48] <Suprano> how to turn esd to digital output? (i know that it is device 2..)
[05:48] <jahshua--> Dr_Willis aah great thanks !
[05:48] <monzie> enlightenment Dr_Willis ? how about that.. i am actually a CDE user on solaris..
[05:48] <Jowi> monzie: i use a combination of Oroborus + fbpanel myself and I replaced gdm with slim. And use rox-filer. it is now a wickedly fast desktop
[05:48] <pawdro> chmod 777 /home/user
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  dont use Enlightment. if you like CDE - check out 'XFCE'
[05:49] <monzie> oroborus Jowi ? what is that?
[05:49] <Rubin> pawdro: yeah but i dont deal in numeric permission codes as a matter of principle. whats 777 in user/group/other read/write/execute
[05:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Dr_Willis: People like CDE?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> PuMpErNiCkLe,  it takes all kinds. :P
[05:49] <Ng> people *have* to use CDE, nobody *likes* it ;)
[05:49] <monzie> no , sometimes they have to use it with solaris PuMpErNiCkLe
[05:49] <Jowi> monzie: oroborus is a windowmanager, not super good but very fast and very configurable.
[05:49] <pawdro> rwx
[05:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ah,yes... Solaris...
[05:49] <pawdro> Rubin all for all ;]
[05:49] <Rubin> pawdro: for everyone? heh ok
[05:50] <Se7h> hi
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> I had that FreeSolaris on a box for all of 1 day :P
[05:50] <Rubin> pawdro: and the directory is there?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> i installed other window managers to it.
[05:50] <Blippe> how do i completely remove gnome/"ubuntu" after a kde/"kubuntu" install?
[05:50] <monzie> I am shifting my college browsing center to linux. I want a "standard" desktop environment with all apps
[05:50] <pawdro> Rubin: yes :)
[05:50] <bugz_> anybody can suggest a good pci-express vga-card for Linux?
[05:50] <Rubin> Blippe: its rather hard :/
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Blippe,  its proberly not worth doing either.
[05:50] <Blippe> Excellent!
[05:50] <monzie> i am on solaris 8 now
[05:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: Most anything by nVidia is good.
[05:50] <ForceAbuser> could someone please tell me how to gain write rights on my HDA3?
[05:50] <mwe> Rubin: it's not that hard
[05:50] <monzie> its rock solid
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> bugz_,  depends on your budget.. stick with Nvidia
[05:50] <Rubin> mwe: whats the secret?
[05:51] <monzie> mount hda3 first ForceAbuser
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> ForceAbuser,  is that a windows partion?
[05:51] <monzie> then sudo 777 /mount-point ForceAbuser
[05:51] <pawdro> Rubin: i install now kde, and see if that change anything
[05:51] <monzie> not a good idea though..
[05:51] <ForceAbuser> its mounted (i can see it on my desktop) and its fat32
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  HUH?
[05:51] <bugz_> PuMpErNiCkLe: Dr_Willis: i have GeForce 6600 LE, but when installing ubuntu5.10 or fedora4... i got a bad screen output
[05:52] <monzie> sorry, sudo chmod 777 <mount-point>
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> ForceAbuser,  theres a wiki/page just for that 'issue'
[05:52] <Rubin> bugz_: get the binary nvidia driver (see starter guide)
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  normally you dont chmod the mount point that way for Vfat/ntfs partitions.. (or you cant)
[05:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: You may have to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings'
[05:52] <mwe> Rubin: sudo apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common then sudo debfoster
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> the permissions for vfat/ntfs are set when its mounted. using  the umask=  options in most cases
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[05:52] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[05:53] <stark-johan> The ubuntu logo next to a package in synaptic does mean that the package is not supported according to the swedish translation, is that really correct? Almost every installed package has the logo next to it.
[05:53] <monzie> why not.. is there a problem with that... i found that solves a lot of problems with Ubuntu Dr_Willis
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> that wiki page has details.
[05:53] <Rubin> mwe: cool
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  as far as i know - that shouldent work at all.
[05:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> stark-johan: I think it means it's recommended/supported.
[05:53] <monzie> that works Dr_Willis
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> i dont have any vfat/ntfs to try however at the moment. :P
[05:53] <monzie> unmount your drive
[05:53] <monzie> chmod it
[05:53] <mwe> Rubin: maybe you need to remove ubuntu-desktop before running debfoster as well. but I don't think you have to
[05:54] <monzie> and then an ordinary user can make changes to the fat32 filesystem
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  you are chmoding the mountpoint dir.. the permissions on it should have no affect  when you mount somthing to it.
[05:54] <Rubin> mwe: it should be removed when you remove the other 2, since it depends on them
[05:54] <stark-johan> Pumpernickle > So, the absolute opposite to what the icon explanation box says in the swedish translation.
[05:54] <monzie> yes i know, but in ubuntu it alllows you to modify the contents of your drive then
[05:54] <mwe> Rubin: yeah. right
[05:54] <Markbb-> can someone ban Andrew_ please :<
[05:55] <monzie> otherwise it wont even allow you to create a god damn folder Dr_Willis
[05:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> stark-johan: Probably a translation error :)
[05:55] <Jowi> stark-johan: that does not sound good.
[05:55] <monzie> just try it and see Dr_Willis
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  im thinking the ubuntu auto-mounting stuff is getting in there some where monzie  - ive seen people try that befor and it dident work.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  got none of those partitions on my machines.  Its possible the ubuntu automounting stuff is some how reading the permissions of the mounting dir.
[05:56] <stark-johan> Jowi > How can I contact the translators? I've notices a few other slight errors in the translation to swedish.
[05:56] <Jowi> stark-johan: ingen aning / no idea :)
[05:57] <Markbb-> ty Seveas
[05:57] <TengkSA> Seveas,  wassup!
[05:57] <stark-johan> Jowi > Ok :-)
[05:57] <Jowi> i miss andrew_ :(
[05:57] <TengkSA> Seveas,  everything's up and running again..
[05:57] <monzie> i am a linux newbie, but using linux for eight years now Dr_Willis
[05:57] <TengkSA> Seveas, but i had to start fresh with both windows and ubuntu
[05:58] <Seveas> TengkSA, too bad :/
[05:58] <Seveas> but good that it's up and running again
[05:58] <TengkSA> What program do you recommend for a JAVA IDE / COMPILER
[05:58] <Seveas> eclipse
[05:58] <monzie> eclip is SLOW Seveas
[05:59] <Vernon_> TengkSA: see netbeans ide, also
[05:59] <ForceAbuser> i've read on the wiki that i "just" have to check the "write" box, but its grey :(, my guess i have to become root, but how? (also in the wiki?)
[05:59] <mwe> monzie: java is slow
[05:59] <Vernon_> TengkSA: is slightly buggy but very userfriendly
[05:59] <Seveas> monzie, I hardly ever use it, mu favourite IDE is vim, but I can't inflict that pain on newbies :)
[05:59] <bugz_> Dr_Willis: PuMpErNiCkLe: Rubin: i cant install both distro. in fedora4... anaconda give me "NVIDIA Unknown (Generic)" and when loading the graphical installer my screen is not good. (same in ubuntu)
[05:59] <monzie> ForceAbuser, "sudo nautilus --nodeskop --browser "
[05:59] <Jowi> btw, why is sawfish linked with evolution-data-server and gnome-terminal!?
[05:59] <monzie> should do ti
[05:59] <monzie> it
[05:59] <bakpao> eclipse s so slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[05:59] <Seveas> monzie, NO
[05:59] <Seveas> never sudo nautilus
[06:00] <Seveas> if you insist on running nautilus as root: gksudo nautilus
[06:00] <monzie> what Seveas , did not get you. sorry
[06:00] <mwe> eclipse is not that slow on my machine
[06:00] <mwe> eclipse is great
[06:00] <Seveas> monzie, GUI apps should be started with gksudo or kdesu, NOT with sudo
[06:00] <bakpao> i have only 700 Mhz and its really so slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[06:00] <TengkSA> Seveas,  do i download eclipse sdk?
[06:01] <mwe> it takes a long time to start it. but after that it's not slow
[06:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: What kind of monitor do you have?
[06:01] <monzie> why Seveas ? will you tell me? i dont know.. but it works
[06:01] <Seveas> TengkSA, sudo apt-get install eclipse-sdk
[06:01] <[Neo_xx] > whats wrong in this line??  $ sudo gedito rc
[06:01] <Vernon_> it eats 180mb on my machine -.-