[09:04] <robdeman> what exactly is a 2.6.15-23-amd64-server ?
[09:05] <robdeman> is it 64 bits?
[09:05] <mindstate> having trouble autoloading certain modules, i tried adding to /etc/modules, but still no luck..any help?
[09:06] <pbureau> mindstate, you did a modprobe -i driver , then modprobe -m ?
[09:07] <lgc> robdeman, indeed. I suppose that's what you get from 'uname -a'.
[09:07] <SDBolts21n56> hi all, noob here. what replaces inittab in ubuntu?
[09:07] <mindstate> pbureau: no, to get it to work i do a couple of modprobes and a couple of insmod's ..its a usb webcam
[09:07] <Cryoniq> !mp3
[09:07] <saftsack> my firefox is terminating itself without opening a window :( (ubuntu 64bit 6.10)
[09:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <mindstate> pbureau: i want it so my cam just works, without having to run commands
[09:09] <CSWookie> What is the command to make ubuntu rediscover it's X display settings?
[09:09] <SDBolts21n56> hi all, noob here. what replaces inittab in ubuntu?
[09:10] <mindstate> CSWookie: to reconfigure X u can type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[09:10] <mindstate> CSWookie: if thats wut u meant
[09:10] <D4wN> What is the command for know the version to use ( edgy, dapper or breeezy )
[09:10] <D4wN> please
[09:10] <Pici> !version | D4wN
[09:10] <ubotu> D4wN: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[09:10] <pbureau> mindstate, I not really sure once it is in /etc/modules they should load up on boot, if the usb device is reconized on boot that is
[09:11] <D4wN> Thx !
[09:11] <SDBolts21n56> CSWookie, are you sure it is not type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:12] <Myk0> how do i check my hd and partitions in a shell?
[09:12] <D4wN> it's dapper ;)
[09:12] <CSWookie> t may well be.  I've never had to do it before.
[09:12] <saftsack> anyone?
[09:12] <CSWookie> Hmm.
[09:12] <Cryoniq> !gstreamer
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <SDBolts21n56> what replaces inittab in ubuntu?
[09:13] <Cryoniq> hmm
[09:13] <pbureau> Cryoniq, its a package in apt-get
[09:13] <mindstate> Myk0: cat /proc/partitions
[09:13] <CSWookie> So, when I restart X, it says it's trying to autocoinfigure, and then moniter goes back to saying input not supported.
[09:13] <goban> whats a really good (with nice gui) thing like quicken, and for making CSS? trying to get my dad to switch to ubuntu
[09:13] <D4wN> Do you know if I can play Lineage II in linux ???
[09:14] <Cryoniq> Can someone explain to me what Gstreamer actually is? Is it a player, or a library and functions that has its basic foundation upon plugins for codecs etc?
[09:14] <Cryoniq> D4wN: probably not..
[09:14] <pbureau> goban,  I dont think you will find a 'comparable' Quicken software in linux, you could try to make it run under WINE, but I dont know how it would work/react.
[09:14] <SDBolts21n56> mindstate,  are you sure it is not type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:14] <D4wN> Cryoniq: and with Wine ?
[09:14] <Cryoniq> D4wN: I tried Rappelz under Wine and Cedega and their anti hack program starting with it just hates it
[09:14] <eduedix> how come openoffice is totally 64M in ubuntu ? how do devs compile the packages?
[09:14] <mindstate> SDBolts21n56: Yes youre right, my mistake :) lol
[09:14] <pbureau> Cryoniq, if you go to synaptic (system-admin) and do a search for it, you will get a description of what it is/does
[09:15] <mjr> Cryoniq, a library architecture and a collection of libraries for codecs and media manipulation, recording and playback
[09:15] <D4wN> Cryoniq: Thank you. But, do you speak french ?
[09:15] <SDBolts21n56> what replaces inittab in ubuntu?
[09:15] <Cryoniq> D4wN: and Rapellz is very similiar to Lineage2 as a software.. but.. I havent tried with LineageII so you should try it at least :)
[09:15] <D4wN> Cryoniq: Ok
[09:15] <Cryoniq> mjr: thanks :) What players use it? VLC?
[09:16] <delight> I'm using an edgy with mysql5 server ... does someone know where to set mysql to use unicode instead of latin1 ?
[09:16] <Cryoniq> mjr: ah here.. reading that Mplayer does not use the framework.. hmm..
[09:16] <bronze> hi all. only near ubuntu package I can find for "fslint" is a "deb" package.  Does anyone know if that would be compatible/usable with apt-get install ?
[09:16] <Cryoniq> maybe movie player etc does then..
[09:17] <medic30420> delight, that is done table by table if needed, else you may have to recompile it :(
[09:17] <Cryoniq> oh well.. guess I wont "die" to try installing plugins etc and try if it works ^^
[09:17] <D4wN> Cryoniq: what is Rapellz ?
[09:17] <D4wN> Cryoniq: a game ?
[09:18] <CyberSnooP> Does anyone know what could cause crappy font display in wxWidgets software like this: http://bram.vleur.nl/tijdelijk/aangifte2006
[09:18] <delight> medic30420: thanks, wondering why on a completly set to unicode system that is set to latin1 ... maybe that is something for a bugreport on launchpad ?
[09:18] <CSWookie> Weird.  The monitor displayed the start and end splash screens when I rebooted, but it won't display X proper.
[09:19] <SDBolts21n56> I can not find the inittab in ubuntu, was it replace by somthing else?
[09:19] <maddler> hmmm... could anyone try writing something starting with "zic*"?
[09:19] <D4wN> Are they a chanel fr ?
[09:19] <erUSUL> !fr
[09:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:19] <maddler> I get: zicorp2004013002901928
[09:19] <D4wN> Thcnaks ;)
[09:19] <maddler> wops...
[09:19] <D4wN> thanks *
[09:19] <maddler> wrong chan!
[09:19] <maddler> :D
[09:20] <D4wN> :help
[09:20] <D4wN> !help
[09:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:20] <bronze> !fslint
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fslint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <piratepenguin> can you easily encrypt single files on ubuntu?
[09:21] <Ralthanor> My system does not recognize my USB hard drive.  I think I can get it to mount if it would only recognize it.  Any ideas?
[09:21] <SDBolts21n56> I can not find the inittab in ubuntu, was it replace by somthing else?
[09:21] <chrisjs169> I just upgraded to Feisty, but I think it partially killed my GUI.  startx dies after saying 'Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module.  Please ensure there is a supported NVIDIA GPU in this system, and that the NVIDIA device files have been created properly. [...] '
[09:22] <bronze> piratepenguin: PGP
[09:22] <Pici> piratepenguin: gpg
[09:23] <Echoes> z
[09:23] <Echoes> Edgy is the latest ubuntu? i need to upgrade from breezy. is it enough to change sources.list and do apt-get distro-upgrade?
[09:23] <delight> medic30420: can i set utf8 only table-wise or is there a way to tell mysql that a whole db-instance is utf8 .. something lie "create database foo character set uf8;"
[09:24] <piratepenguin> bronze, Pici, I can use GPG (since today XD ), I'm wondering if there are plans to integrate this with the OS, e.g. with nautilus
[09:24] <thekidrio> appleheads what what
[09:24] <thekidrio> mt heh
[09:24] <Myk0> anyone running PPC ubuntu here?
[09:24] <dyrne> chrisjs169: sudo sed -i 's/nvidia/vesa/' work?
[09:24] <dyrne> chrisjs169: er sed -i '' /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:25] <chrisjs169> dyrne: yeah
[09:26] <chrisjs169> dyrne: I got it working, the dist-upgrade had written a new xorg file, and replacing it worked....for now
[09:27] <dyrne> chrisjs169: the nvidia-glx package though is that working or not? just curious
[09:27] <bronze> dunno
[09:28] <chrisjs169> dyrne: not sure, hold on
[09:28] <chrisjs169> dyrne - I'm not sure how I'd go about figuring that out...
[09:29] <Reliant> In /proc/cpuinfo, I have an AMD Sempron 3400+, but it's only showing 1000 Mhz (the 3400+ should be 1800-2000 Mhz, depending on the model)
[09:29] <Ralthanor> My system does not recognize my USB hard drive.  I think I can get it to mount if it would only recognize it.  Any ideas?
[09:30] <zool2005> Good evening all
[09:30] <kupesoft> How come when I plug from the NIC on my laptop to the NIC on my router without a hub/switcher nothing happens but, if I put a hub/switcher in between everything works well?
[09:30] <Khem> what can I use for graphical display of CVS tree ?
[09:30] <zool2005> I have a hardware question.... can I put a SATA drive in my box alongside an IDE drive?
[09:31] <yellow> zool2005, yes
[09:31] <yellow> as long as you have the cable / slot /power / shelf for it
[09:31] <enr1x> hi guys! i have just installed ubuntu onto an acer laptop and, when using the headphones, the sound is still directed to the builtin speakers. What is the problem?
[09:31] <bronze> zool2005: but you have to get an exception from the local IDE union hall.
[09:31] <zool2005> bronze, !!
[09:31] <enr1x> i have already looked in google but the question seems to not to have been answered
[09:32] <bronze> :-D
[09:32] <enr1x> thanks in advance :)
[09:32] <yellow> hehe bronze
[09:32] <yellow> i forgot about the union hall
[09:32] <yellow> ^^!
[09:32] <enr1x> bad kernel module?
[09:32] <zool2005> yellow, the box won't mind if I'm running XP on the IDE drive?
[09:33] <bruenig> the box always minds
[09:33] <zool2005> bruenig, point taken!
[09:33] <yellow> zool2005, :O i thought you're running ubuntu
[09:33] <zool2005> yellow, I am but I need more capacity
[09:33] <enr1x> anyone knows what the solutinon can be?
[09:33] <yellow> the almighty xp will come down and zap you
[09:33] <enr1x> i am already experienced in installing/urnning linux
[09:33] <Echoes> Edgy is the latest ubuntu? i need to upgrade from breezy. is it enough to change sources.list and do apt-get distro-upgrade?
[09:34] <bruenig> Echoes, fresh install probably is best, if you go the upgrade route, you will need to go to dapper and then again to edgy
[09:34] <zool2005> yellow, at the moment I have two IDE drives but I want to upgrade one
[09:34] <bruenig> but there will be almost certain breakage
[09:34] <enr1x> please?
[09:34] <yellow> zool2005, as long as your motherboard support it
[09:34] <bruenig> !patience
[09:35] <zool2005> yellow, thanks
[09:35] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:35] <spinster> Hello, i running linux ubuntu and when i play some sound mp3 i have error: Audio codec 'MPEG 1layer 3.....
[09:36] <spinster> can somebody help me to i can listen mp3 too a ?
[09:36] <bruenig> !quicktime | spinster
[09:36] <ubotu> spinster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:36] <spinster> bruenig: can you help me ?
[09:36] <Echoes> bruenig, i'm on 5.10 breezy. what exact upgrade do i need?
[09:36] <bruenig> spinster, do what ubotu said
[09:37] <bruenig> Echoes, get the edgy iso and fresh install
[09:37] <ardchoille> lgc: Still there?
[09:37] <Echoes> bruenig, fresh install?? is it really neccessary?
[09:37] <spinster> bruenig: i dont now good english can you give me a wget and to i apt-get install the codesc pls ?
[09:37] <bruenig> !upgrade | Echoes
[09:37] <ubotu> Echoes: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:38] <Echoes> bruenig, ok, i'll read
[09:38] <spinster> bruenig: pls
[09:38] <bruenig> spinster, get the gstreamer ones
[09:38] <spinster> what to get ?
[09:38] <bruenig> spinster, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[09:39] <spinster> bruenig: ok
[09:39] <Echoes> what kernel does 6.10 have?
[09:40] <spinster> in terminal i type sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll and now what i need to do ?
[09:40] <spinster> bruenig:
[09:40] <spinster> pls.
[09:40] <bruenig> spinster, the whole command
[09:41] <spinster> in term to i type sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[09:41] <spinster> ??
[09:41] <bruenig> spinster, yep
[09:41] <spinster> ok
[09:42] <spinster> bruenig: after that ?
[09:43] <spinster> its 100%
[09:43] <spinster> Setting up libglade0 (0.17-5) ...
[09:43] <spinster> Setting up libxine-extracodecs (1.1.1+ubuntu1-2) ...
[09:43] <spinster> Setting up ogle (0.9.2-2.2) ...
[09:43] <spinster> Setting up ogle-gui (0.9.2-2) ...
[09:43] <spinster> done you see.
[09:43] <spinster> aha
[09:43] <spinster> thanks
[09:43] <spinster> i see i listen mp3 :)
[09:43] <spinster> ty ALL !
[09:44] <CSWookie> I have a pretty new monitor, and I can't use it. :-(
[09:45] <Echoes> what kernel does 6.10 have?
[09:45] <bruenig> 2.6.17
[09:46] <kestaz> bruenig, how to get newer kernel ?
[09:46] <bruenig> !kernel
[09:46] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:46] <kestaz> bruenig, i don't want to compile custom..
[09:46] <eXistenZ> Is it possible to change the highligting colors of bash?
[09:46] <bruenig> kestaz, then you don't get a newer one
[09:47] <heatman> !Nvidia
[09:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <Linkmasta23> hi peoples
[09:48] <Linkmasta23> im new here
[09:48] <babo> does anyone know how to access virtual mailboxes from the commandline / pine ?
[09:48] <farruinn> babo: what's a virtual mailbox?
[09:49] <x3nu__> hey
[09:49] <Linkmasta23> who reccomends ubuntu for me? im thinking of getting it
[09:49] <x3nu__> i got an quick question
[09:50] <x3nu__> how to set up keyboard so i can write "at" and other third level caracters
[09:50] <fredl> where can you request things to be packaged for Ubuntu?
[09:50] <farruinn> Linkmasta23: that's a decision you need to make for yourself. it depends on a lot of things
[09:50] <thekidrio> fredl you can rebuild your own ubuntu packages eh
[09:50] <thekidrio> ubuntu is nice and easy, get the live cd and check it out
[09:50] <farruinn> fredl: get in touch with the MOTU folks maybe (#ubuntu-motu)
[09:50] <fredl> thekidrio, ehr...
[09:51] <thekidrio> i even got it working on my old sparc ultra 5 heh
[09:51] <kestaz> bruenig, i can just install feisty kernel ;p
[09:51] <fredl> thanks farruinn.
[09:51] <x3nu__> i tried on the configuration menu but it keeps telling me that something is wrong the x serv
[09:51] <thekidrio> hrmm what is your hardware?
[09:51] <x3nu__> mine ?
[09:52] <thekidrio> yeah for the xerv
[09:52] <thekidrio> xserv
[09:52] <thekidrio> your vid hard ware
[09:52] <assasukasse> hi everyone
[09:52] <x3nu__> ati x700
[09:52] <thekidrio> hrmm that ati should work fine
[09:52] <Linkmasta23> would ubuntu work on 130 mb ram, 800mhz procceser, and a soon to upgrade 8 mb of hardrive space?
[09:53] <assasukasse> i have a question: i have a test computer on which edgy is installed, it has a 6 Gb root partition, now i wanted to try feisty but i cant upgrade since says there is not enough space in /archives what can i do?
[09:53] <thekidrio> 130 megs.... tough one
[09:53] <x3nu__> everything is running fine, mom gonna copy the error message
[09:53] <assasukasse> should i wait for final then use the cd to upgrade?
[09:53] <thekidrio> look at minix or damn small linux
[09:53] <farruinn> Linkmasta23: it would "run" but you'd probably want more ram
[09:53] <SDBolts21n56> I can not find the inittab in ubuntu, was it replace by somthing else?
[09:53] <Wodger> very slowly would be my guess
[09:53] <SDBolts21n56> I can not find the inittab in ubuntu, was it replace by somthing else?
[09:53] <rambo3> Linkmasta23, ask ubptu about lightweight
[09:53] <thekidrio> my ubuntu runs fine on my p3 900
[09:53] <Linkmasta23> yeah im getting more ram
[09:53] <adaran> anyone know how to get 5.1 sound working on alsa?
[09:53] <thekidrio> but i have 30 gig hd and 512 ram
[09:54] <x3nu__> Fehler beim Aktivieren der XKB-Konfiguration.  means fault in activating xkb-configuration
[09:54] <Wooksta> can anyone point me in the direction of a tutorial which tells me how to enable printer sharing for my local network via ubuntu?
[09:54] <Linkmasta23> so i think it might be good dont ya think?
[09:54] <jmm0906> I need a driver for my Philips Sp300nc webcamera ...can anyone help me? i cant find it on phips.com
[09:54] <farruinn> SDBolts21n56: you don'th ave it at /etc/inittab?
[09:55] <eternaljoy> anyone here use broadband from Optus in Australia?
[09:55] <Echoes> how do i recome all X11 stuff from ubuntu? i want only console
[09:55] <jmm0906> philips.com
[09:55] <SDBolts21n56> farruinn, is it a hide file?
[09:55] <SDBolts21n56> because i do see it
[09:55] <SDBolts21n56> dont see it
[09:55] <thekidrio> apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop echoes
[09:55] <Cyrus25801> can some one help me with a wine problem
[09:55] <thekidrio> but if you want just console
[09:55] <Echoes> thekidrio, thanks
[09:55] <thekidrio> i would install a lamp server
[09:55] <thekidrio> get the server install CD's
[09:56] <thekidrio> no X on those ones
[09:56] <farruinn> thekidrio: why the heck would he want to run amp?
[09:56] <thekidrio> a bit cleaner install then removing desktop from normal install
[09:56] <thekidrio> lamp
[09:56] <Echoes> thekidrio, i don't have the time to reinstall now
[09:56] <thekidrio> linux + apache + mysql + php,perl,python not amp heh
[09:56] <Cyrus25801> with winecfg i'm trying to specify a program but it keeps telling me "err:commdlg:IShellBrowserImpl_BrowseObject could not browse to folder
[09:56] <Cyrus25801> "
[09:56] <thekidrio> echoes, yeah then that should work
[09:56] <thekidrio> you can also just disable it
[09:56] <farruinn> thekidrio: I know what it is. You don't need that for just console use though
[09:57] <thekidrio> no just the lamp install disk, sorry heh
[09:57] <thekidrio> mean server install disk not lamp
[09:57] <farruinn> thekidrio: isn't there a server disk and a minimal disk? separate?
[09:57] <farruinn> SDBolts21n56: it's not hidden, it'd be /etc/.foo then. I dont' know what the deal is.
[09:57] <thekidrio> not sure about minimal disk probably though heh
[09:58] <thekidrio> just finished setting up 4 lamp servers, so i have it on the brain
[09:58] <SDBolts21n56> farruinn, i tried to find it but nothing
[09:58] <farruinn> SDBolts21n56: what are you trying to do?
[09:58] <jmm0906> I need a driver for my Philips Sp300nc webcamera ...can anyone help me? i cant find it on philips.com
[09:59] <bruenig> !webcam | jmm0906
[09:59] <SDBolts21n56> farruinn,  chagne the defualt run level
[09:59] <ubotu> jmm0906: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:59] <jmm0906> thank you
[09:59] <bruenig> !thanks | jmm0906
[09:59] <ubotu> jmm0906: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:00] <Echoes> lol
[10:00] <thekidrio> heh
[10:00] <Cyrus25801> can some one help me with a wine problem. with winecfg i'm trying to specify a program but it keeps telling me "err:commdlg:IShellBrowserImpl_BrowseObject could not browse to folder"
[10:01] <farruinn> SDBolts21n56: what are you trying to accomplish by that? debian/ubuntu have done away with the idea of runlevels for the most part.
[10:01] <epimer> hi guys
[10:01] <bruenig> !hi | epimer
[10:01] <ubotu> epimer: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:01] <Echoes> thekidrio, ubuntu-desktop is not installed yet still xorg* packages are
[10:01] <Echoes> Echoes, why?
[10:01] <epimer> i'm not sure, but i think i may have hosed my python stuff
[10:02] <epimer> i've had problems with exaile and beryl since installing python2.5
[10:02] <SDBolts21n56> farruinn, so there is no way to change run levels?
[10:02] <heatman> ive was installing beryl when my pc froze. i then rebooted and finished the install in a non gui state. now when i try to log in ubuntu, i ge the following error: Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly... does anyone know what to do to fix that?
[10:02] <Echoes> bruenig, lol, typo :)
[10:02] <heatman> ive was installing beryl when my pc froze. i then rebooted and finished the install in a non gui state. now when i try to log in ubuntu, i ge the following error: Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly... does anyone know what to do to fix that?
[10:02] <farruinn> SDBolts21n56: I'm sure if you wrote your own inittab from scratch it'd work, but I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish by this.
[10:02] <heatman> oops sry for saying it twice
[10:02] <epimer> so now, running exaile with "python /usr/bin/exaile" and "python2.5 /usr/bin/exaile" fails with the error that it cannot find gobject, but "python2.4 ...." works fine
[10:02] <epimer> any idea what i;ve done?
[10:03] <bruenig> epimer, just go back to 2.4
[10:03] <variant> the wow starts now..
[10:03] <SDBolts21n56> farruinn, i need to be at rl 3 for this app i am using
[10:03] <bruenig> the wow started 5 years ago..
[10:03] <Cyrus25801> heatman: if you backed up you xorgconf file restor it and trying installing it again. that's the onlt thing i can think of
[10:04] <epimer> bruenig, i removed 2.5 in synaptic, but still trying to open exaile only works if i specify 2.4
[10:04] <epimer> i.e. "python /usr/bin/exaile" and just plain "exaile" return the cannot find module gobect error
[10:04] <CheshireViking> is there a way I can copy copy my Ubuntu installation which is on hdb1 to hdb4? I want to install a second copy of Ubuntu for testing purposes so that I don't cripple my working copy?
[10:05] <ompaul> CheshireViking, why not just install on hdb4 it will work and your boot manager will be happy
[10:05] <thekidrio> echoes, hrmm couple things do apt-get remove xorg
[10:05] <jmm0906> hmm... nothing on philips sp300nc webcamera. damn ..isnt there someone here who uses or knows somebody who kows about someone else using it ? :P ..help me out mates
[10:05] <bruenig> epimer, you can just setup the menu to run whatever the python 2.4 specified command is
[10:06] <thekidrio> and/or echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:06] <epimer> bruenig, i'm sorry, i don't understand what you mean
[10:06] <thekidrio> that will disable it from launching anyway
[10:06] <anirban> How to install nvidia driver on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[10:06] <bruenig> epimer, nevermind, you can symlink all the 2.5 stuff
[10:06] <thekidrio> umm anirban, get automatix2
[10:07] <farruinn> SDBolts21n56: Ok, that's still not telling me anything, but if you're interested I've pasted my inittab here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4623/
[10:07] <Echoes> i'm distro upgrading without the ubuntu-desktop package? is it ok?
[10:07] <thekidrio> easiest way to install em
[10:07] <bruenig> !automatix | thekidrio
[10:07] <ubotu> thekidrio: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:07] <thekidrio> yeah echoes thats cool
[10:07] <anirban> what is it thekidrio
[10:07] <Echoes> Echoes, is it safe?
[10:07] <bruenig> !nv | anirban
[10:07] <ubotu> anirban: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:07] <thekidrio> hrmm seems it causes problems, but it allows automatic installation of some useful stuff
[10:07] <SDBolts21n56> farruinn, thanks
[10:08] <thekidrio> i have not had any isues with it though
[10:08] <Cyrus25801> anirban: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[10:08] <Echoes> i don't want to upgrade all those kde* and gnome*
[10:08] <CheshireViking> ompaul: thats the other option, however I'd prefer to keep my original grub settings without creating a new grub on hdb4 in case the system on hdb4 (which will only be used for testing and might get trashed), because I've got a couple of other linux installations on hdb3 &hdb6 as well as windows on hda1 i suppose i could reinstall grub back to hdb1
[10:09] <thekidrio> echoes, hrmm yeah it might, what install media did you use? regular install cd?
[10:09] <Echoes> thekidrio, yes.
[10:10] <anirban> ubotu I tried the BinaryDriverHowto
[10:10] <anirban> but did not work
[10:10] <ompaul> CheshireViking, so make something else the primary booting engine - a perhap if you have a floppy that is removed when you running the system and not playing with grub
[10:10] <Echoes> thekidrio, what about this "Make sure that you have ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, or edubuntu-desktop installed (depending on which distribution you are using). This is VITAL for apt to perform the upgrade successfully. "
[10:10] <farruinn> anirban: ubotu is a bot
[10:10] <anirban> actually the driver was working before the system upgrade
[10:10] <anirban> okay
[10:10] <heatman> !GDM
[10:10] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 1687 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[10:10] <Echoes> thekidrio, is there an ubuntu-server package?
[10:11] <thekidrio> hrmm, lets see there is ubuntu-minimal
[10:11] <farruinn> Echoes: you only need those installed if you want the upgrade to upgrade your desktop successfully
[10:11] <Echoes> farruinn, ah, good, i don't need the desktop stuff
[10:12] <blom> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/allpackages  doesn't seem to list pam at all... does anyone know if it has 0.99 ?  (ie. does pam_keyring work yet)
[10:12] <Cyrus25801> anirban: well try to install the driver again. i think something might have gone wrong with your up grade. never have upgraded so wouldn't be able to help you there
[10:12] <heatman> is there a command to downgrade distro to original stage?
[10:13] <farruinn> heatman: like from edgy -> dapper?
[10:13] <CheshireViking> ompaul: I'll have alook & see what I can do, if I can, i'll try a straight copy, if not, I'll do a fresh install on hdb4, thanks for the suggestion anyway
[10:13] <Cyrus25801> anirban: and i gave you a link for the latest driver page not the binary driver howto
[10:13] <ompaul> farruinn, going backwards is not supported - that is called fresh install
[10:13] <PPAAUULL> It MintLinux like a flavour of ubuntu?
[10:14] <PPAAUULL> is*
[10:14] <farruinn> ompaul: I know, just trying to figure out what heatman's talking about ;)
[10:14] <heatman> farruinn: nah from edgy to edgy... meaning every update or install will be deleted
[10:14] <CSWookie> Is there a way for me to see what X settings ubuntu uses for it's startup and shutdown screens?
[10:14] <anirban> I am trying that
[10:14] <CSWookie> My monitor displays those fine, so I'd be happy to just crib them over.
[10:15] <Cyrus25801> anirban: every time you upgrade you need to reinstall driver read on the link i gave you
[10:15] <CSWookie> Since it can't seem to display X once it gets started.
[10:15] <ompaul> heatman, too hard to make work - you install extra stuff you can find yourself with a mess - if it is from outside the standard repos you have no real chance if you value your time - reinstall and get it right ;-)
[10:16] <Cyrus25801> can some one help me with a wine problem. with winecfg i'm trying to specify a program but it keeps telling me "err:commdlg:IShellBrowserImpl_BrowseObject could not browse to folder"
[10:16] <babwe>  Im trying t setup  xchat with this http://fish.sekure.us/ but its failing t find the xfish.so on 64 bit pc
[10:16] <heatman> ompaul: was afraid that you gonna say that!
[10:16] <ompaul> heatman, well now you know what you knew but would not admit ;-)
[10:16] <Crazytales2> Can someone help me with an X problem? I've just upgraded the NVIDIA drivers through Update Manager. Now I can't get X at all and I get some error about the kernel module not matching the X module.
[10:16] <heatman> ompaul: hehe!
[10:17] <Crazytales2> ompaul: I prefer smaller channels, but not so small that nobody ever says anything.
[10:17] <Crazytales2> I like channels with about 50-100 members.
[10:17] <Cyrus25801> ompaul: could you help me with the problem i mentioned above.
[10:18] <heatman> is there a good way to install beryl... followed the instruction on its site (the one specificly for ubuntu) and that the source of my problems with Xserver
[10:18] <Cyrus25801> anirban: how r things looking?
[10:18] <ompaul> heatman, go to #ubuntu-beryl
[10:18] <heatman> ompaul: ty bud
[10:19] <Cyrus25801> heatman: if you get it right maybe you can help me
[10:19] <ompaul> Cyrus25801, don't know anything about wine - however that looks like a permission issue
[10:19] <adaptr> !pam
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <Crazytales2> !fixres
[10:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:20] <Cyrus25801> ompaul: i know so i tried running the command with sudo but that didn't work either. but thanx
[10:20] <ompaul> Crazytales2, so are these native nvidia drivers or the nvidious ones from nvidia?
[10:20] <Crazytales2> The binary ones ompaul
[10:20] <ompaul> !nvidia | Crazytales2
[10:20] <ubotu> Crazytales2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:20] <babwe> anyone pls assist cant get xchat t work with fish on a 64-bit pc runnung Ubuntu
[10:21] <Crazytales2> ompaul: yeah, being a Gnewsense friend
[10:21] <crazy_penguin> Good night to all!
[10:22] <Cyrus25801> does anyone here know anything about wine. having problems with dvd shrink
[10:22] <ompaul> babwe, is that by any chance a 32bit application?
[10:23] <babwe> maybe fish is
[10:23] <babwe> not xchat
[10:23] <Echoes> what is the point of having ubuntu-desktop packages??
[10:23] <thekidrio> basic funtctionality for a workstation
[10:23] <blom> to drag down other packages
[10:23] <flyinghippo> Hello.
[10:23] <ompaul> Echoes, to make it easy to intall a workstation - gdm kdm and some reasonable stuff
[10:23] <Echoes> it's annoying for advanced users
[10:23] <thekidrio> haha
[10:23] <flyinghippo> Are there any free DVD encoders for Ubuntu/Linux?
[10:23] <flyinghippo> *decoders
[10:24] <ompaul> Echoes, so then you know how to work beyone that
[10:24] <thekidrio> its annoying for a server, but i like it for my laptop
[10:24] <thekidrio> keeps my battery running a lot longer
[10:24] <Echoes> it's ok for desktops
[10:24] <Echoes> it makes sense
[10:24] <thekidrio> yah
[10:24] <Kasio> Hey guys
[10:24] <babwe> flyinghippo decode t what
[10:24] <thekidrio> they do have a server install though echoes with no desktop stuff installed
[10:24] <Kasio> Would an installation of Ubuntu help my booting issue ( cant get to choose between BackTrack and Windows XP)
[10:25] <Kasio> So I thought installing Ubuntu will fix it so I get to choose between WIndows and Ubuntu (of course removing Backtrack)
[10:25] <Cyrus25801> flyinghippo: check the fourms. u can use k9copy but there are other packages you need to install as well
[10:25] <indigoparrot> hey all, can anyone help me.  There's a bug in Kopete to do with webcams, and i've found a bug fix, i'm just not sure how to compile it.
[10:25] <flyinghippo> Thank you, Cyrus.
[10:25] <Echoes> thekidrio, i would like that server install, can i convert the existing ubuntu-desktop to it?
[10:25] <Cyrus25801> flyinghippo: do you want to rip (backup) your dvd's
[10:25] <flyinghippo> No, I wish to view them.
[10:26] <thekidrio> yeah you can, ummm lemme find the lamp install line
[10:26] <thekidrio> that is if you want a lamp server
[10:26] <thekidrio> if you just want one or two of those you can just grab those
[10:26] <Echoes> thekidrio, no lamp, just samba
[10:26] <Cyrus25801> flyinghippo: i had the same prob last week. let me see if i can find something for you. install xine so long
[10:26] <indigoparrot> can anyone help me with compiling Kopete, or should i try in a KDE channel?
[10:26] <thekidrio> ahh ok
[10:26] <adaptr> indigoparrot: why would you need to compile it ?
[10:27] <Echoes> indigoparrot, why would you like to do that??
[10:27] <adaptr> inidnm, I saw it.. what do the people in #kubuntu say ?
[10:27] <indigoparrot> adaptr: i want to add a bug work-around.  It doesn't work properly with my webcam and I've found a section of code i have to add/edit in an existing source file
[10:27] <flyinghippo> Cyrus25801: I will try that, thanks.
[10:27] <Echoes> indigoparrot, just install the package
[10:27] <indigoparrot> Echoes: i can't, i need to edit the source, then compile
[10:28] <rippawallet> hey
[10:28] <rippawallet> i need a lil bit of help
[10:28] <mistform> internet keeps timing out unless I'm hardwired
[10:28] <Echoes> indigoparrot, then it should be easy, just make sure you have kde*-dev packages installed
[10:28] <rippawallet> can i have help please? :)
[10:28] <indigoparrot> Echoes & adaptr: the fix is here - http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140528
[10:28] <rippawallet> ok
[10:28] <rippawallet> someone
[10:28] <rippawallet> lol
[10:28] <mistform> rippawallet, ask your question and be patient. not everyone you see in the userlist is at their keyboard right now
[10:28] <Echoes> indigoparrot, better yet, download ubuntu's kopete source package and modify
[10:28] <rippawallet> ok sorry
[10:28] <rippawallet> well,
[10:29] <adaptr> indigoparrot: get kopete source package, patch it, compile it ? If you don't have KDE headers now, you need to get all kdelibs-dev that kopete needs - which may be quite a few...
[10:29] <indigoparrot> Echoes: what package name would i be looking for? Kopete-sources?
[10:29] <Cyrus25801> flyinghippo: here is a link i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs?highlight=%28dvd%29
[10:29] <adaptr> again asking why you're in #u and not #ku ?
[10:29] <rippawallet> while installing xUbuntu off the live CD, when mounting the partitions, it says no root system file, when i mounted one of them as /
[10:29] <Echoes> indigoparrot, apt-get source kopete AFAIR
[10:29] <Cyrus25801> flyinghippo: and thank you for saying thanx
[10:29] <Abst> I was wondering what is a good command-line IRC client, excluding irssi
[10:29] <adaptr> !bicthx
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bicthx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <adaptr> heh
[10:30] <adaptr> !bitchx
[10:30] <thekidrio> samba is pretty easy, to get going lets see its uhh sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[10:30] <indigoparrot> adaptr: i'm running Ubuntu, but i can't get the webcam to work on aMSN either :(
[10:30] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1507 kB, installed size 6516 kB
[10:30] <adaptr> damn silly bot
[10:30] <rippawallet> while installing xUbuntu off the live CD, when mounting the partitions, it says no root system file, when i mounted one of them as /
[10:30] <rippawallet> mistform: :)?
[10:30] <adaptr> indigoparrot: skype on wine seems to work according to some...
[10:30] <mistform> rippawallet, I'm not as experienced as many of the guys in here, and I dont' know exactly what your problem is...
[10:30] <thekidrio> echoes, full instructions http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Samba_Server_for_files.2Ffolders_sharing_service
[10:31] <rippawallet> ok
[10:31] <indigoparrot> adaptr: ideally, i don't want to have to play with wine, i'd like to have it all kosher linux
[10:31] <Abst> !es | adaptr
[10:31] <ubotu> adaptr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:31] <mistform> rippawallet, but I've had some problems like that with a fresh install, I just reinstalled and everything worked fine
[10:31] <Cyrus25801> flyinghippo: here is a link i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs?highlight=%28dvd%29
[10:31] <rippawallet> Hmm.
[10:31] <mistform> I've had error with root fileystem, unable to read drive format, etc
[10:31] <rippawallet> i see
[10:31] <mistform> my hard drive is so messed up right now
[10:31] <rippawallet> lol
[10:31] <flyinghippo> Thanks again, Cyrus25801.
[10:31] <mistform> I have 18gb of the 40gb formatted to my main partition
[10:31] <mistform> the rest is unusable
[10:32] <mistform> it won't format and keeps generating errors
[10:32] <rippawallet> hm
[10:32] <mistform> it would always fail formatting at 46-48%
[10:32] <rippawallet> ok
[10:32] <Cyrus25801> flyinghippo, no prob
[10:32] <mistform> rippawallet, have you asked in ##LInux?
[10:33] <mistform> ##linux ****
[10:33] <stephans> hello
[10:33] <stephans> does it work now?
[10:33] <stephans> can anyone see me?
[10:33] <rippawallet> mistform: ill try now
[10:33] <Crazytales2> Hi stephans
[10:33] <rippawallet> yeah is ee you
[10:33] <Abst> stephans: we cant see you
[10:33] <Cyrus25801> stephans, no where r u
[10:33] <jamesbrose> I am unable to install beryl, everytime I start it it crashes X. Can anybody help? (running edgy 6.10)
[10:33] <anirban> I tried the link Cyrus25801
[10:33] <stephans> What happened? What is this new niserv identify stuff?
[10:34] <anirban> but did not work
[10:34] <indigoparrot> Echoes: now i've run the apt-get, where do i find the source packages?
[10:34] <anirban> X server refues to start
[10:34] <ompaul> jamesbrose,, go to #ubuntu-beryl
[10:34] <stephans> OK -- never mind...
[10:34] <anirban> I can not even modprobe nvidia
[10:34] <Echoes> indigoparrot, in the current dir
[10:34] <indigoparrot> ok, cheers
[10:34] <stephans> does anyone know anythin about dhcp
[10:34] <stephans> ?
[10:34] <Abst> nope
[10:34] <stephans> hmmmm?
[10:34] <Abst> sorry
[10:34] <Abst> no one does
[10:34] <thekidrio> whats the question stephens
[10:34] <otroean> Hi. My volume icon in the newest ubuntu version says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found". But it plays the sound before i log in...
[10:35] <anirban> getting error Unknown symbol in module
[10:35] <Cyrus25801> anirban: if you followed and it didn't work you will have to ask the experts
[10:35] <Echoes> indigoparrot, then after modifying the src compile the new package
[10:35] <anirban> okay
[10:35] <MonsieurBon> hello
[10:35] <Random_Transit> hey, if i use LVM to merge partitions that already have data on them, will that data get wiped?
[10:35] <Cyrus25801> Bonjour
[10:35] <nexousNET> Anyone setup a WPC54G v.2 on ubuntu 6.06 successfully?
[10:35] <stephans> thekidrio, OK i want ot have 2 server and have them work together...
[10:35] <Cyrus25801> i think
[10:35] <MonsieurBon> does anybody know how to display a terminal (or any other) window on each of the four desktops?
[10:35] <MonsieurBon> with devilspie?
[10:35] <thekidrio> like ns1 and ns2?
[10:36] <mluser-work> Hello, I just installed vmware-player, and every time I run aptitude it tries to reconfigure the vmware setup script
[10:36] <stephans> thekidrio, load balance each other and failover
[10:36] <thekidrio> right-o you are using bind?
[10:36] <Random_Transit> mluser-work, i had that same problem
[10:36] <thekidrio> err are you using bind stephans?
[10:36] <mluser-work> Random_Transit: How did you solve it?
[10:36] <stephans> thekidrio, in the windows infrastructure you can have several dhcp servers....
[10:37] <mluser-work> Random_Transit: I cant even uninstall it now :(
[10:37] <thekidrio> yeah you can in linux :)
[10:37] <thekidrio> err sorry i was thinking dns haha
[10:37] <stephans> yes i have bind
[10:37] <mistform> dns :O
[10:37] <mistform> lol
[10:37] <thekidrio> haha yeah, dhcp failover... hrmm
[10:37] <Faugn> MonsieurBon: yes, I have this rule for mplayer: (if (is (application_name) "MPlayer") (begin (pin) (undecorate) ) )
[10:37] <jetsaredim> anyone have experience with cisco vpn
[10:37] <thekidrio> i am not sure about that actually
[10:37] <Cyrus25801> MonsieurBon: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie?highlight=%28devilspie%29 and http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie
[10:37] <thekidrio> i would be shocked if you could not
[10:37] <indigoparrot> Echoes: ok, assume i'm some kind of useless ape, what commands do i need to run to compile it now?
[10:37] <Faugn> leave the undecorate and keep the pin
[10:38] <thekidrio> lemm read something one moment
[10:38] <MonsieurBon> Faugn: an then it shows on every desktop you have?
[10:38] <Faugn> yep
[10:38] <Echoes> indigoparrot, i don't remember, read the manual, man apt-get
[10:38] <indigoparrot> ok
[10:38] <Faugn> MonsieurBon: I put it in ~/.devilspie/mplayer.ds
[10:38] <Random_Transit> mluser-work, yeah....it's a bitch to get rid of...i had to apt-get remove it and then remove everything referring to it from /etc and then grep /var for anything relating to it and zap that too
[10:39] <Random_Transit> question, if i use LVM to merge partitions that already have data on them, will that data get wiped?
[10:39] <imbecile> is there anything that tells when updates are rolled out that is not on my pc?? I got a suspicious 9 updates last night i want to verify
[10:40] <jetsaredim> I seem to be having problems with cicso vpn - it keeps replacing the vpn's resolv.conf with the original one
[10:40] <jetsaredim> anyone seen that before?
[10:40] <MonsieurBon> Faugn: wow, that really does it, can you explain why?
[10:40] <Faugn> MonsieurBon: ?
[10:41] <Faugn> I just followed the documentation/examples
[10:42] <imbecile> is there anything that tells when updates are rolled out that is not on my pc?? I got a suspicious 9 updates last night i want to verify
[10:42] <kane77> hi
[10:42] <MonsieurBon> Faugn: I did not get that from the examples. Muss I missunderstood pin
[10:42] <rippawallet> :)
[10:42] <MonsieurBon> Faugn: s/muss/but
[10:42] <Faugn> ok
[10:43] <thekidrio> stephans: www.madboa.com/geek/dhcp-failover
[10:43] <MonsieurBon> Faugn: thx and cu
[10:43] <kane77> anybody knows of a program (script) that would scan the ftp for files (changes) and then export it into file (which would then be parsed into mysql database.. but I can do that in php...)??
[10:44] <Echoes> indigoparrot, so, have you found the command?
[10:44] <indigoparrot> Echoes: i have run configure
[10:44] <farski> If I'm setting up a file server using NFS and WebDAV, and I want authentication for both to be the same, do I use LDAP or something else?
[10:44] <Echoes> indigoparrot, don't! compile the package not the source
[10:44] <indigoparrot> echoes: it gave an error, saying it can't find the X libraries
[10:45] <Echoes> indigoparrot, wait
[10:45] <Fanskapet> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[10:45] <Fanskapet> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:45] <Fanskapet> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[10:45] <Fanskapet> OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic
[10:45] <Fanskapet> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)
[10:45] <indigoparrot> echoes: oh ok
[10:45] <Fanskapet> anyone know how to solve that problem?
[10:45] <kane77> !paste | Fanskapet
[10:45] <ubotu> Fanskapet: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:45] <Fanskapet> I only get the Xlib problem booting the XGL session
[10:45] <Fanskapet> I know what pastebin is.
[10:45] <Fanskapet> although it's pretty useless to use pastebin for 4 rows
[10:46] <Fanskapet> 6 even
[10:46] <Fanskapet> 5
[10:46] <Fanskapet> bleh
[10:46] <Echoes> indigoparrot, run "sudo dpkg-buildpackage" in the src directory
[10:46] <indigoparrot> ty
[10:46] <kane77> the rule is if its >3 then >> pastebin :D
[10:46] <Fanskapet> anyway
[10:46] <Fanskapet> anyone have solved this problem?
[10:46] <thekidrio> fanskapet, that was a bot heh
[10:46] <Random_Transit> question, if i use LVM to merge partitions that already have data on them, will that data get wiped?
[10:47] <Echoes> indigoparrot, that's the right way to recompile the package after modification
[10:47] <indigoparrot> echoes: thanks :)
[10:47] <Echoes> indigoparrot, does it work? i'm talking out of memory
[10:48] <indigoparrot> echoes: on the phone at the mo, will try in a minute
[10:50] <indigoparrot> echoes: "cannot open debian/changelog to find format: no such file or directory..." etc error :(
[10:50] <Echoes> indigoparrot, do you run as root, sudo?
[10:50] <stephans> thekidrio: thank you for the link.
[10:50] <Echoes> Echoes, you must be in the package directory
[10:51] <Echoes> indigoparrot, , you must be in the package directory
[10:51] <indigoparrot> echoes: i'm an idiot, running in the correct directory i got this error - "Build dependencies..."
[10:52] <farski> If I'm setting up a file server using NFS and WebDAV, and I want authentication for both to be the same, do I use LDAP or something else?
[10:52] <xelados> :window close 2
[10:52] <POVaddct> xelados: using irssi? :)
[10:52] <indigoparrot> echoes: "...dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied: aborting (used -d flag to override.)"
[10:52] <xelados> POVaddct: indeed :p
[10:52] <grogoreo> hi
[10:53] <POVaddct> xelados: i think /window close can be abbreviated by /wc
[10:55] <indigoparrot> Echoes: "cdbs docbook-to-man kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.5.0) libgadu-dev libslp-dev automake1.9 libglib2.0-dev" - those were the unmet build dependencies
[10:55] <Random_Transit> !lvm
[10:55] <Random_Transit> !lvm | Random_Transit
[10:55] <Random_Transit> !LVM
[10:55] <Random_Transit> bleh
[10:55] <thekidrio> heh
[10:55] <thekidrio> i am not sure about losing the data random
[10:55] <ompaul> !enter
[10:55] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:55] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:57] <imbecile> is there anything that tells when updates are rolled out that is not on my pc?? I got a suspicious 9 updates last night i want to verify
[10:58] <Echoess> indigoparrot, i suggest you to play a little with dpkg-buildpackage, read the manual, it's useful knowledge :)
[10:59] <eyelasers> imbecile, can you clarify that?
[10:59] <genii> the man page for dpkg generally is extremely enlightening
[11:00] <j1p> Is there any editor that has syntax highlighting for MIPS? Or an easy way to do it in gedit?
[11:01] <Cryoniq> Hmm anyone know what is needed to play .mkv video files (matroska)?
[11:02] <Cryoniq> wooha netsplit galore...
[11:02] <Crazytales2> whoaaaaaa
[11:02] <Echoess> wtf is netsplit?
[11:02] <rippawallet> netsplit
[11:02] <rippawallet> :D
[11:02] <xelados> How do I make Fluxbox start when Xorg starts without using GNOME or KDE? I tried putting 'exec startfluxbox' in my ~/.xinitrc, but didn't have any luck. Could I get a push in the right direction?
[11:03] <Crazytales2> Echoess: it's when a server loses itc connection with the network
[11:03] <Crazytales2> thus isolating all users connected to the server
[11:03] <Echoess> xelados, cnfigure *dm accordingly
[11:03] <cpk1> nothing beats spam like a netsplit
[11:03] <thekidrio> heh
[11:03] <xelados> I don't have a DM installed.
[11:03] <Echoess> Crazytales2, thanks for enlightenment :)
[11:03] <Faugn> xelados: which session do you choose on startup?
[11:03] <Crazytales2> np
[11:03] <Cryoniq> true.. reminds me of good old days back in the 90's
[11:03] <Faugn> did you give execution right to the file?
[11:04] <Cryoniq> ahum.. guess my question was missed.. :)
[11:04] <xelados> Faugn: I'm not sure. How do I check? I'm on a server installation, so no DM.
[11:04] <Cryoniq> Hmm anyone know what is needed to play .mkv video files (matroska)?
[11:04] <Faugn> xelados: chmod +x ~/.xinitrc
[11:04] <Cryoniq> !mkv
[11:04] <Echoess> xelados, then ~/.xinitrc should work
[11:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:04] <dyrne> xelados: that should work.
[11:04] <ompaul> Echoes, when irc servers can't keep in sync they split and rejoin
[11:04] <Faugn> xelados: and try again
[11:04] <nexousNET> Hi
[11:04] <Faugn> also, what do you have on the first line?
[11:04] <imbecile> anybody on dapper get like 15 updates lastnight?
[11:04] <nexousNET> Anyone successfully setup a wpc54g v.2 on ubuntu 6.06?
[11:05] <xelados> Faugn: ~/.xinitrc's contents are nothing but 'exec startfluxbox'
[11:05] <eyelasers> lol, netsplit
[11:05] <genii> xelados If you make some entry to .xinitrc .xinit or .Xsession or so on to run something, put a & after the name.
[11:05] <Cryoniq> wpc54g.. what is that?
[11:05] <Faugn> xelados: add: #! /bin/sh
[11:05] <nexousNET> Cryoniq: a linksys wireless adapter.
[11:05] <eyelasers> imbecile, dunno, I'm not living in the past, lol
[11:05] <j1p> Is there any editor that has syntax highlighting for MIPS? Or an easy way to do it in gedit?
[11:05] <xelados> Faugn: Will do.
[11:05] <Faugn> as the first line, + execution rights
[11:05] <Cryoniq> Ah :) I suspected it was but had to ask :)
[11:05] <Faugn> jip: MIPS?
[11:05] <zerooninja> okay
[11:05] <Echoess> xelados, don't but the & on the last item
[11:06] <zerooninja> i need help with this
[11:06] <imbecile> eyelasers,  your not living with lts either ;P
[11:06] <zerooninja> i lag when playing CS
[11:06] <j1p> Faugn, Assembly language for embedded devices
[11:06] <zerooninja> and with windows i don;t
[11:06] <zerooninja> i don't know if i have drivers for my video card
[11:06] <eyelasers> imbecile, who needs support? this is linux! we support ourselves!
[11:06] <zerooninja> then leave eyelasers -__-
[11:06] <Faugn> j1p: there is probably a syntax file for VIM somewhere
[11:06] <thekidrio> haha i had to get LTS to convince my boss to switch to ubuntu heh
[11:07] <imbecile> ouch.. hehe
[11:07] <rippawallet> NNNEEETTTTSSPPPLLIITTT
[11:07] <xelados> Still only loads X...
[11:07] <zerooninja> where would i get my video card drivers?
[11:07] <zerooninja> cuz they ones on my cd only support windows =(
[11:07] <thekidrio> whats your video card?
[11:07] <xelados> I added in the /bin/sh line and chmodded the xinitrc for +x across the board
[11:07] <zerooninja> ati
[11:07] <thekidrio> !ati
[11:07] <dyrne> zerooninja: youll have to write your own shouldnt take too long :)
[11:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:07] <Faugn> xelados: how do you start X?
[11:07] <zerooninja> radean X300 se
[11:08] <Faugn> xelados: use the command startx
[11:08] <xelados> Faugn: I type in "Xorg"
[11:08] <Faugn> not directly X, or Xorg
[11:08] <xelados> 'startx' doesn't work
[11:08] <thekidrio> !ati | zerooninja
[11:08] <ubotu> zerooninja: please see above
[11:08] <zerooninja> k
[11:08] <xelados> 'command not found' for startx
[11:08] <xelados> Which is weird
[11:08] <Faugn> xelados: it should now that the rights/contents are OK
[11:08] <mc2003> Anyone heard about the kernel corrupt I/O error on torrents?
[11:08] <thekidrio> ubotu an eggdrop?
[11:08] <zerooninja> and dyrne that isn't really funny....
[11:08] <ubotu> an: very fast anagram generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-3 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 84 kB
[11:08] <Faugn> xelados: any error message?
[11:08] <rpc> how do you become another user as root?
[11:09] <rpc> i forgot the damn command lol
[11:09] <thekidrio> ubotu eggdrop?
[11:09] <xelados> Faugn: From 'startx'? None. bash just acts as if it doesn't exist.
[11:09] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[11:09] <Faugn> rpc: sudo -u user -i
[11:09] <thekidrio> ubotu ubotu?
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotu? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <xelados> 'locate startx' returns an empty set, too
[11:09] <rpc> Faugn thank you, so sudo as root to become another user?
[11:09] <thekidrio> poor bot
[11:09] <Faugn> yep
[11:09] <thekidrio> not self aware
[11:09] <rpc> i thought sudo was just for non-root users
[11:09] <imbecile> ubotu pancakes?
[11:09] <rpc> tricky :)
[11:09] <imbecile> hehe
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pancakes? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <thekidrio> haha
[11:09] <imbecile> im hungry
[11:09] <mc2003> Cool
[11:10] <rpc> ubotu: botsnack
[11:10] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:10] <Faugn> xelados: do you have the xinit package installed?
[11:10] <genii> !botsnack | imbecile
[11:10] <ubotu> imbecile: please see above
[11:10] <thekidrio> ubotu pancakes are all exciting at first, but by the end you are sick of htem.
[11:10] <rpc> lmao genii
[11:10] <xelados> Let me check.
[11:10] <Crazytales2> ubotu ubotu
[11:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:10] <zerooninja> hey guyz wats ubuntu?? is it linux x86 or linux x86_64
[11:10] <zerooninja> ?
[11:10] <zerooninja> i have edgy
[11:10] <ompaul> zerooninja, both
[11:10] <xelados> Faugn: Hah, nope. Installing now.
[11:10] <Crazytales2> zerooninja: therer are versions available for both archs
[11:10] <zerooninja> so should i just see which one works
[11:11] <zerooninja> lol xD
[11:11] <genii> rpc :)
[11:11] <ompaul> zerooninja, do you plan on doing multimedia stuff?
[11:11] <notgod> hello.
[11:11] <zerooninja> yea kinda i animate ALOT
[11:12] <mc2003> thats a netsplit i suppose?
[11:12] <genii> zerooninja: The default kernel is a plain vanilla type for any i386 box. You can install a more specific kernel later if you like eg: 686 or so
[11:12] <zerooninja> waiting for money so i can get a tablet
[11:12] <zerooninja> wait wat?!
[11:12] <ompaul> zerooninja, multimedia is better on 32bit atm
[11:12] <zerooninja> explain more to me genjj
[11:12] <zerooninja> yea
[11:12] <zerooninja> i downloaded that one
[11:13] <zerooninja> =) i have a amd anthlon 64 tho =P
[11:13] <zerooninja> anyways thanks guyz
[11:13] <xelados> Sweet. Fluxbox loads now. Two last questions and I'll be set:
[11:13] <zerooninja> i'll let you all know if it works, i just went to the ati site, thinking they wouldn't have linux drivers but they proved me wrong =)
[11:13] <xelados> 1) How can I get X to start when I log in, or will I need to login to bash and type 'startx' every time?
[11:14] <xelados> 2) Why doesn't Ctrl+Alt+F# work to get to the ttys? :(
[11:14] <Faugn> xelados: you could install a graphical login manager
[11:15] <genii> zerooninja: If you have an AMD 64 bit based cpu then the i386 kernel works fine. the amd64 distribution still has some odd problems that are being worked out. But anyhow, the i386/586/686 based kernels will still run along great on an AMD
[11:15] <Thug-N-Me> will azureus be installed without java ?
[11:15] <Faugn> xelados: a lightweight one like xdm for example
[11:15] <mikefoo> Hey guys I have ntpd running but my time still drifts off, what am I doing wrong?
[11:15] <Thug-N-Me> i mean if i dont have java installed can i still install azureus ?
[11:15] <mikefoo> time still gets out of sync with time servers
[11:15] <xelados> Faugn: Is it tied to a DE like gdm or kdm?
[11:15] <genii> mikefoo If your system is overclocked that can explain it
[11:15] <eyelasers> Thug-N-Me: no
[11:16] <Faugn> xelados: nope
[11:16] <mikefoo> genii: it isn't
[11:16] <Faugn> it's ugly, but light
[11:16] <Thug-N-Me> eyelasers then how do you explain this ? >>> azureus exec: 40: java: not found
[11:16] <eyelasers> Thug-N-Me try ktorrent :-)
[11:16] <Faugn> :D
[11:16] <adaptr> xelados: update-rc.d xdm defaults will start a graphical login manager on boot
[11:16] <Thug-N-Me> eyelasers i use gnome
[11:16] <menace_> can anyone point me in the direction of the tutorial on how to enable mp3/mpg/etc.. support?
[11:16] <notgod> Okay, I am a FreeBSD user, and I am felling in love with ubuntu.  Great work, and I am really enjoying it...
[11:16] <adaptr> !multimedia
[11:16] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:16] <menace_> thank you
[11:16] <xelados> Faugn: Alright, cool. Thanks a lot. You saved me a lot of headaches. :)
[11:16] <notgod> but the networking on this laptop is completely maddening.
[11:16] <eyelasers> Thug-N-Me - the dependencies system currently allows azureus to be installed against gcj, but it doesn't work
[11:16] <zerooninja> genjj where would i get the kernals?!
[11:16] <menace_> !mp3
[11:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:16] <Faugn> xelados: for the VT problem, do you have the DontVTSwitch option in your xorg.conf?
[11:17] <eyelasers> Thug-N-Me - or your system's just b0rk3d
[11:17] <zerooninja> cuz liek it LAGGING A WHOLE LOT ON COUNTER STRIKE AND STUFF
[11:17] <xelados> I'm not sure, let me check.
[11:17] <eyelasers> zerooninja - kernels? maybe kernel.org?
[11:17] <Thug-N-Me> eyelasers well this is stupid ... if azureus wouldnt run without java ... and i dont have java installed why did it pass the install depends
[11:17] <zerooninja> lol
[11:17] <Thug-N-Me> eyelasers hell yeah i think " ubuntu its broken "
[11:17] <zerooninja> no
[11:18] <genii> mikefoo Other than some european 50hz weirdness vs 60hz north american cycle powering the clock, I don't know. I've seen time acceleration on european systems that were put on a north american poer supply for instance
[11:18] <notgod> I use both wireless and wired networks, and it seems I can only get one or the other to work -- not both.
[11:18] <xelados> Faugn: vim didn't find "Dont" in its search, so I presume it's not there.
[11:18] <notgod> For example, I had wireless working last night, came into work, plugged in the wired network, and it didn't work.
[11:19] <Thug-N-Me> notgod wanna connect with both ? at the same time ?
[11:19] <xelados> Faugn: I have to go to work now though; if you could /msg me the tips I'd be grateful.
[11:19] <notgod> so I had to go to System -> Administration -> Networking and enable the wired network...
[11:19] <Faugn> xelados: ok, it default to off, so I have no other idea
[11:19] <notgod> which broke wireless.  :)
[11:19] <genii> mikefoo conceivable your cmos battery is dying
[11:19] <notgod> (i.e. I no longer get the option to enable wireless in NetworkManager)
[11:20] <pbureau> notgood are you using network-manager-gnome ?
[11:21] <notgod> Thug-N-Me: not connected at the same time, but both configured to work (e.g. not having to go through a half hour process to set up wireless to ahve it break in 10 seconds when I need to get the machine on a wired connection)
[11:21] <notgod> pbureau: yes
[11:21] <notgod> pbureau: I need WPA for my home network.
[11:21] <pbureau> notgod, what chipset you god on that wifi card ?
[11:21] <pbureau> got
[11:21] <daviey> Hi, anybody here access a wireless network that requires TTLS auth?
[11:22] <notgod> pbureau: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1470 DualBand WLAN (rev 02) (according to lspci)
[11:22] <notgod> pbureau: using the ndiswrapper
[11:22] <zerooninja> guyz how do i fix lag in games
[11:22] <zerooninja> like counter strike 1.6
[11:22] <zerooninja> openGL
[11:22] <pbureau> notgod, iwlist <cardid> scanning give you what (ie: ifconfig reports my card as being ra0 so iwlist ra0 scanning)
[11:22] <eyelasers> zerooninja, lots of ways - define lag
[11:23] <notgod> pbureau: it's eth1
[11:23] <zerooninja> when i see someone on my screen
[11:23] <pbureau> notgod,  and ifconfig sees an eth1 ?
[11:23] <eyelasers> zerooninja - do you have a high ping response, i.e. high latency? do you have a low framerate, i.e. choppy?
[11:23] <zerooninja> it starts to jerk a bit
[11:23] <zerooninja> no no jigh ping
[11:23] <zerooninja> hogh*
[11:23] <notgod> pbureau: nope -- unless I ifconfig -a
[11:23] <zerooninja> like i used to get 120 fps with windows
[11:23] <j1p> does anyone know a good editor for mips source code that isn't vi or emacs, I want something with a little bit of syntax highlighting
[11:23] <zerooninja> and now i get 40-70
[11:24] <zerooninja> with linux
[11:24] <zerooninja> ....
[11:24] <notgod> eth1      No scan results
[11:24] <eyelasers> zerooninja, that's choppy? lol - my graphics card sucks :-\
[11:24] <zerooninja> dude
[11:24] <eyelasers> zerooninja, what model card do you have?
[11:24] <zerooninja> something is up with the OS
[11:24] <zerooninja> ati readean X300
[11:24] <zerooninja> SE
[11:24] <pbureau> notgod, okay lets take is a step back if you enter - lswh -class network -  what does it say your card is and what driver is it using (we can take this to #helpya if you like for cut/paste
[11:24] <notgod> pbureau: but I usually dont get any networks fromt his location.
[11:24] <zerooninja> PCI-E
[11:25] <eyelasers> zerooninja, same card as me, lol - you need fglrx to use it right - the open drivers have bad 3-d and also don't work well with shared mem atis
[11:25] <zerooninja> wait urs visiontek?
[11:25] <eternaljoy> eyelasers: how are they after the surgery?
[11:25] <notgod> pbureau: thanks for the help.  Can't seem to find lswh
[11:25] <notgod> bash: lswh: command not found
[11:25] <pbureau> notgod, humm.. sudo ?
[11:26] <eyelasers> eternaljoy - actually, http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Eyelasers.jpg (I think)
[11:26] <eternaljoy> eyelasers: :>)
[11:26] <jrib> notgod: it's lshw
[11:26] <pbureau> opps I am beiung dislectix..lol
[11:26] <zerooninja> eyelasers
[11:26] <zerooninja> how can i fix this lag
[11:26] <notgod> lisdexic, right.  :)  says the wireless interface is disabled.
[11:26] <eyelasers> zerooninja - what drivers are you using?
[11:27] <zerooninja> so far
[11:27] <zerooninja> none that i know of
[11:27] <pbureau> notgod, then the driver = line is empty right ?
[11:27] <zerooninja> (first time with linux)
[11:27] <eyelasers> zerooninja, ok - do you know how to use a terminal?
[11:27] <notgod> pbureau: driver=ndiswrapper
[11:27] <zerooninja> lol yes
[11:27] <notgod> pbureau: I have the 1.8 ndis wrapper in there, and it seems to load on bootup ok.
[11:27] <pbureau> notgod, humm
[11:27] <zerooninja> heere dude oepn a side dialouge
[11:28] <zerooninja> so we dun take up chat space
[11:28] <pbureau> notgod, modprobe -i <driver name> should tell you its loaded already
[11:28] <notgod> pbureau: I also have "blacklist bcm43xx" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:29] <Cryoniq> hmm anyone had trouble playing .mkv video files on Ubuntu 6.10? Installed plugin for Gstreamer that had it in it, but when starting movie player resize bigger and it is black and no sound. If I move window I can quickly see video and it flicker back to pitch black again =/
[11:29] <pbureau> notgod,  /join #helpya for a minute lets check stuff out
[11:29] <notgod> pbureau: does the gnome applet, in some way, interfere with the networking control panel?  A lot of the help pages say stuff about clearing out /etc/network/interfaces
[11:30] <hackeron> hey, is it possible to move from 32bit ubuntu to 64bit ubuntu without reinstalling?
[11:30] <wdnvg> hi , im trying to install from livecd..gparted is messing with me , in that it wont let me use / as ext3 and /home as xfs without saying: xfs may not be used on the filesystem containing /boot, but actually I told gparted to use EXT3 as /, so is this some osbcure bug ? ;))
[11:31] <ferret_0567> Hello
[11:32] <ferret_0567> !lirc
[11:32] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[11:32] <ferret_0567> How do I get lirc to work on Edgy?
[11:32] <Linkmasta23> hi pplz
[11:32] <ferret_0567> My laptop has a integrated infrared port so I figured I would try it out
[11:33] <Linkmasta23> is transfer from microsoft to ubuntu easy?
[11:33] <nexousNET> There's no way to actually 'restore' default settings is there in ubuntu
[11:33] <Faugn> nexousNET: depends, settings for what?
[11:34] <nexousNET> Faugn: Well, I've made a lot of changes and added multiple things, that I want completely restored to stock.
[11:34] <jrib> nexousNET: define "things"
[11:34] <Faugn> yes, but what?
[11:34] <ferret_0567> I found a guide
[11:34] <Linkmasta23> can anyone hear me?
[11:34] <ferret_0567> Ubuntu Community Docs are great! : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Edgy?highlight=%28LIRC%29
[11:34] <nexousNET> Nvm, I'm just gonna upgrade it to 6.10
[11:35] <jrib> Linkmasta23: no, but I can read what you type :)
[11:35] <webmaren> my openoffice.org won't start up
[11:35] <Linkmasta23> :P
[11:35] <Linkmasta23> lol
[11:35] <jrib> webmaren: any interesting output when you try to open it from a terminal?
[11:35] <nexousNET> hmm, now to find my 6.10 cd
[11:35] <mrintegrity> anyone know java here please?
[11:35] <Tatster> Hi.  Has anyone tried using 2X terminal server from ubuntu?
[11:36] <jrib> mrintegrity: try ##java
[11:36] <mrintegrity> jrib: yeah thanks
[11:36] <nexousNET> I have a 500gb hd, but I still store things on disks, wtf?
[11:36] <compengi> how to create a network between linux and windows machine?
[11:36] <compengi> sorry linux and linux machine
[11:37] <Faugn> compengi: to share some file?
[11:37] <Faugn> *files
[11:37] <compengi> yes
[11:37] <Faugn> you can use a variety of things, like NFS/SAMBA/...
[11:37] <mistform> compengi, it's called "hard copies" lol
[11:38] <compengi> lol
[11:38] <webmaren> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4638/
[11:38] <terapicodave> hmm strange, edgy's livecd doesn't give me a command line when x fails to start but dapper does, any ideas why that would be?
[11:39] <Linkmasta23> is the transition between windows and ubuntu easy?
[11:39] <terapicodave> Linkmasta23 easy is a relative term
[11:39] <Faugn> Linkmasta23: depends...
[11:39] <shatrat> Linkmasta23, it depends on what you do with your computer.
[11:39] <bruenig> Linkmasta23, depends on you
[11:40] <terapicodave> Linkmasta23 do you ever use notepad or cmd?
[11:40] <jenda> any tips as to how to measure the bandwidth used by IRC?
[11:40] <Tatster> Linkmasta23:  I'm currently about 7 days into switching over to Ubuntu.  So far so good!
[11:40] <Linkmasta23> i have a good knowledge in computers and already use some opensource softwar.
[11:40] <webmaren> jenda: shut off all apps, measure bandwidth. turn on irc, measure bandwidth. mathematics
[11:40] <bruenig> I just dove into it formatted the whole drive, probably not the best advice, but doing that forces you to get it really quick.
[11:41] <bruenig> or I suppose fail miserably and never come back
[11:41] <webmaren> bye guys
[11:41] <terapicodave> Linkmasta23 just try it out, you'll learn how to fix the probs you run into
[11:41] <Tatster> Linkmasta23: you could always try a LiveCD and see how you like it
[11:41] <eltopo> hello
[11:41] <Tatster> That's what I did
[11:42] <Linkmasta23> yeah live cds arent too great (tried slax linux before)
[11:42] <localverb> guys ....I really need your help......I am using headphones but the mic doesn't work....how can I get it working? thanks in advance
[11:42] <jenda> If I could only tell webmaren that I'm simply not gonna shut down IRC.
[11:42] <Faugn> jenda: maybe use iptraf
[11:42] <bruenig> not as a permanent OS but as a try it out and see, it is pretty great
[11:42] <localverb> I am using Edgy
[11:42] <terapicodave> the greatest feature in that new other os is that it lets you shrink partitions to install edgy ;)
[11:43] <Faugn> localverb: did you check the level?
[11:43] <localverb> yes
[11:43] <terapicodave> i'm just about fully switched over to edgy, only run the other in a vm
[11:43] <jenda> Faugn: thx, will check.
[11:43] <localverb> but it doesn't seem to work
[11:43] <localverb> although it works on windows
[11:43] <Faugn> localverb: I have micboost setting on my card, did you check that?
[11:44] <localverb> How to do that?
[11:44] <eltopo> interest
[11:44] <Faugn> using alsamixer in a terminal
[11:44] <Tatster> terapicodave:  I'm also trying to get a VM running with 2X terminal server to publish a couple of legacy apps.  Just having a few probs getting it running!
[11:44] <localverb> Faugn: I am new to ubuntu
[11:45] <Faugn> check gstreamer-properties too, to see if it's configured to use the right input source
[11:45] <localverb> ok I'll check it now
[11:46] <localverb> Faugn: where to find gstream-properties?
[11:47] <Faugn> type gstreamer-properties in a terminal
[11:47] <localverb> Faugn: ok :)
[11:47] <Faugn> or somewhere in the preference menu
[11:47] <Faugn> don't remember which item (it changed in feisty)
[11:48] <m_billybob> hmm, is THIS thing on, now ?
[11:48] <notgod> pbureau is the best.  :)
[11:48] <Crescendo> I'd like to see how long I can keep Ubuntu running on a failing HDD - what commands can I run to be sure filesystem integrity is green?
[11:49] <Faugn> Crescendo: badblocks
[11:49] <m_billybob> has this network always been nickserv, or is this recent ?
[11:49] <localverb> Faugn: Default input plugin ALSA ....This appeared in a window after typing the command in the terminal
[11:49] <Belgain> quick question: how can i track down samba streaming performance problems? When trying to stream mp3s to my laptop from another machine, I get pauses every minute or so of music
[11:50] <Belgain> i don't have the same problem if i play files locally
[11:50] <Faugn> localverb: ok, and did you try alsamixer to check for any mic related setting?
[11:50] <m_billybob> Belgain: first off, whats you throughput speed ?
[11:50] <m_billybob> your*
[11:50] <m_billybob> and line speed to boot
[11:50] <Faugn> Crescendo: and use smartmontools
[11:50] <Belgain> it's on a "b" wifi connection
[11:50] <Belgain> so should be around 5MBps i guess
[11:50] <Belgain> certainly plenty for mp3
[11:51] <m_billybob> have you tuned samba yet ?
[11:51] <frogzoo> Crescendo: you can use fsck, but that only checks the directories, you should install smartmontools which will reveal the whole ugly story
[11:51] <Belgain> nope
[11:51] <pbureau> lol notgod
[11:51] <m_billybob> Belgain: then i would sugest google -> Samba tuning
[11:51] <mistform> damnit.... where am I supposed to go to install a KDE theme?
[11:52] <bruenig> !theme
[11:52] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:52] <localverb> Faugn: Yeah it's full but same problem
[11:52] <bruenig> !changethemes
[11:52] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[11:52] <Faugn> localverb: and nothing to boost the input?
[11:53] <m_billybob> Belgain: as an example, i recently tuned Samba, on a GbE connection, and raised my speeds by about 5x faster
[11:53] <Faugn> it's not muted? ;)
[11:53] <Belgain> a quick file copy test shows that samba throughput between the two machines is over 400 kilobytes per second
[11:53] <Moniker42> anyone know of a good wysiwyg web editor for ubuntu?
[11:53] <m_billybob> that is pretty slow
[11:53] <Belgain> which is confortably an order of magnitude faster than mp3 bandwidth
[11:53] <m_billybob> Belgain: what log level are you using ?
[11:53] <Belgain> ?
[11:53] <Belgain> samba log level?
[11:53] <m_billybob> in smb.conf, what is the log level set to ?
[11:54] <frogzoo> Belgain: but latency for sound is also a big issue
[11:54] <m_billybob> nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:54] <bruenig> !info nvu
[11:54] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB
[11:54] <frogzoo> Belgain: try bumping up the buffer on your mp3 client if you can
[11:55] <Belgain> tried that - doesn't help
[11:55] <mistform> it was in preferences
[11:55] <m_billybob> anyhow log level set higher than log level 2 usually seriously degrades Samba performance
[11:55] <mistform> the Login Window setting...
[11:55] <Belgain> log level is 0
[11:55] <m_billybob> its documented
[11:55] <terapicodave> what mp3 client?
[11:55] <m_billybob> ssend / read buffer sizes ?
[11:56] <localverb> Faugn: sorry ...I didn't see your reply quickly......I've boosted it to the max ...but same problem
[11:56] <Faugn> no more ideas, sorry!
[11:56] <m_billybob> Belgain: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/appb_01.html
[11:57] <Belgain> oh hang on... i can't seem to find a log level parameter in smb.conf..... i've posted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4642/
[11:57] <Belgain> that's the client smb.conf file
[11:57] <frogzoo> m_billybob: gxine at least lets you increase the read buffer
[11:59] <m_billybob> Belgain: that looks like a stock smb.conf
[12:00] <m_billybob> help on a second, let me fire up the ole edgy box, and ill take a gander
[12:00] <m_billybob> hold on a sec*
[12:00] <obstfliege> Do ypu use HDD/System encryption?
[12:00] <Belgain> ok, i'm using rhythmbox and banshee and neither have a setting for read buffer size... i must have been misremembering when i said i'd changed them
[12:00] <Belgain> thanks!


[04:48] <mup> Bug #1982718 opened: Supporting to customize http_proxy in yum.conf for centos deployment <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1982718>


[18:16] <quitte> Hi. I'm trying to get the accelerometer working on my cheap tablet/netbook. It is working, but the y-axis is flipped. There is a possibility to declare a mount matrix describing the chips orientation as far as I can tell. But I haven't figured out how to provide this information, yet.
[18:18] <quitte> it's in drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c
[18:19] <quitte> I assume that I just need to figure out the proper data structure and its name to add my mount matrix to. (before trying to read that matrix from DSDT)


[17:53] <neonum6_> hi! I'm trying to install ubuntu tv on a 12.04 beta 2 Ubuntu
[17:53] <neonum6_> I'm doing the same things written in the ubuntu wiki
[17:54] <neonum6_> and I can't do a "cmake ."
[17:55] <neonum6_> it says me: packages unity-core-4.0 and nux-core-1.0 not found
[17:55] <neonum6_> how can I solve this?
[18:07] <neonum6_> can anybody help me?
[18:09] <tgm4883> neonum6_, what instructions did you follow?
[18:10] <neonum6_> I'm following this istruction: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing
[18:11] <neonum6_> "cmake ." is the problem
[18:12] <neonum6_> Notes in that page says that it was only tested on 11.10...so I have to install 11.10 to test UbuntuTV?


[00:48] <plebian> hello
[01:26] <pjotter> hi everybody
[01:55] <craigbass76> pjotter, howdy
[01:57] <pjotter> Hi craigbass76
[01:57] <craigbass76> Something broke, or were you just saying hello to everyone?
[01:57] <pjotter> No everything fine
[01:58] <craigbass76> Cool
[01:58] <pjotter> I'm working on the graphic for the slideshow for 16.04
[01:58] <craigbass76> When's 16.04 due out?  Is that LTS?
[01:59] <pjotter> April 2016. And yes that's a LTS
[02:01] <craigbass76> I keep being on the fence about whether I like xubuntu or mint better...  This is the second or third time I've have xub 14 on my laptop
[02:01] <craigbass76> Giving ubuntu studio a drive this time
[02:02] <pjotter> I've not really tried mint. I take it you use the xfce version of mint?
[02:02] <craigbass76> No, it's got a cinnamon desktop that's a lot like xfce/gnome2
[02:03] <craigbass76> but I think it's essestially  hacked up gnome3
[02:03] <pjotter> Ah, ok. I think there's also an Xfce version
[02:04] <craigbass76> So what's this slideshow graphic you're talking about?  Something that plays during install?
[02:04] <pjotter> Yes, that thing. It still needs a picture of the little critter they're going to use for this version
[02:05] <pjotter> "Xenial Xerus". It's an african ground squirrel
[02:18] <craigbass76> What happens after Z, they just starting over again?
[02:19] <pjotter> Z will be the ultimate version.
[02:19] <pjotter> I have no idea :)
[02:27] <dylan> Help
[02:27] <dylan> My xubuntu wont boot
[02:28] <pjotter> Does it show any message?
[02:32] <dylan> Its a blackscreen
[02:32] <dylan> Nvidia thing how do i fix
[02:33] <dylan> Like im had trouble with this its annoying me so if you can somehow he
[02:33] <dylan> P
[02:34] <pjotter> Is it a laptop?
[02:34] <dylan> Its a macbook pro
[02:34] <dylan> 2010 7,1
[02:36] <pjotter> Unfortunately, I don't really know what to do. But I have had the same thing with an Eee PC. It randomly boots to black screen and the whole thing just hangs. What I do then is: remove the battery and let it run on power supply and then reboot. It will then reboot fine and I can put the battery back in.
[02:37] <dylan> Bro
[02:37] <dylan> Its a omg nvidia driver issue
[02:37] <dylan> Sheesh no one can help why did i uninstall mac os x and run a peice of os that no one helps with
[03:06] <craigbass76> dylan, Does it bot form the livecd?
[03:06] <craigbass76> boot from... :P
[03:07] <craigbass76> I'm asking because I think there's a file you can just copy over from the livecd's /etc do your installed copy
[03:07] <craigbass76> But someone else will have to chime in.  It might not even be xubuntu specific, so if nobody in here can help someone in #ubuntu might be able to.
[03:11] <dylan> Bro listen
[03:12] <dylan> Just please dont bother
[03:12] <dylan> Im really stressed out
[03:29] <pjotter> Have you tried booting in recovery mode?
[03:42] <dylan> pjotter:
[05:05] <misterx> hi there
[05:07] <robotics> hi
[05:08] <misterx> i'm running xubuntu trusty (LTS) and recently switched from leafpad to mousepad as my default plaintext-editor. anytime i open a file that is not encoded in unicode but ISO (happens…), i have to manually switch to the correct encoding. is there any possibility to have that automated (like in eg leafpad b/c it never asked me…)
[05:39] <craigbass76> misterx, what's Geany do?  I have to use Windows at work, so I got used to that editor, being cross platform.
[05:40] <misterx> craigbass76: currently seeing if gedit works for me; geany is a bit "overloaded" for my tastes… ;)
[05:41] <misterx> i was more searching for the correct checkbox/dialogue/preferences-file than for alternatives, though ;-)
[05:41] <misterx> (but thanks anyway)
[08:35] <QVIKti455> What's the downside to using Xubuntu instead of Unity?
[10:17] <dixie7z_> QVIKti455, Unity is DE of Ubuntu... Xfce is DE of Xubuntu.. Xfce is more lightweight so it makes it faster... Also you can change the look to suit your needs... Menu... Panels... Launchers... I don't know about any downside :)
[10:18] <QVIKti455> Is it maybe less easy for a beginner?
[10:18] <QVIKti455> Missing some GUI parts?
[10:19] <mrkramps> actually Xfce makes use of a more classical concept of desktop compared to unity
[10:19] <mrkramps> might make it even easier vor beginners
[10:19] <dixie7z_> true
[10:21] <mrkramps> and I do not know of GUI parts missing
[10:22] <Terry4> QVIKti455: Unity is copied from OSX, so it is easier for Apple users.
[10:22] <QVIKti455> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LhQ46SaRmI <-- there's a comment here that says Mint 17.2 XFCE is full of bugs.
[10:23] <Terry4> QVIKti455: XFCE is easier for Windows users
[10:23] <mrkramps> QVIKti455, mint != ubuntu
[10:23] <QVIKti455> Mint is XFCE is based on Xubuntu LTS.
[10:24] <mrkramps> QVIKti455, _based_
[10:24] <mrkramps> and that's all
[10:24] <QVIKti455> Do you recommend Xubuntu 14.04?
[10:25] <mrkramps> yes
[10:26] <dixie7z_> yes... just try it... installation will take 10-15minutes... but don't stop on... uf, i don't like it very much and quit... because you can change pretty much everything
[10:26] <Terry4> i dont think there is a big difference from Xubuntu & Mint XFCE.   Mint just adds some more features
[10:26] <QVIKti455> Right, Mint XFCE should be at least as good as Xubuntu LTS.
[10:28] <Terry4> Mint makes it easier to upgrade kernel, adds color to Terminal, easier to add/see PPA's, etc
[10:29] <QVIKti455> You notice a meaningful difference in snappiness using Xubuntu over Kubuntu?
[10:29] <Terry4> Mint makes "apt" easier also:   http://www.howtogeek.com/234583/simplify-command-line-package-management-with-apt-instead-of-apt-get/
[10:30] <Terry4> QVIKti455: yes, kDE is much slower than XFCE.  LXDE is even faster than XFCE.
[10:31] <QVIKti455> Another user complaining about Mint stability: " I used 17.2 and 2 weeks later I switched back due to big amount of crashes and freezes."
[10:31] <Terry4> QVIKti455: link?  which DE were they using?
[10:31] <QVIKti455> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrPSDRjQzWk
[10:32] <QVIKti455> Cinnamon I presume. But the user before this one was using XFCE.
[10:32] <QVIKti455> I'll find https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LhQ46SaRmI
[10:32] <Terry4> QVIKti455: Cinnamon is slower and more complicated than XFCE
[10:32] <QVIKti455> Here's the user complaining about XFCE 17.2.
[10:33] <QVIKti455> "It is full of bugs. shut down reboot takes forever. When its start the battery icon is missing from the bar (ramdomly) and Icons looks different. I3 gt9200m prop drivers installed. it is not stable for me. I HATE IT ! reinsatall it twice from 2 different dvd's with checksum verified."
[10:36] <Terry4> QVIKti455: that is a known issue in Xubuntu as well, power-manager.:   http://xubuntu.org/news/14-10-release/
[10:36] <Terry4> Note: Upgraders from Trusty will not see the new xfce4-power-manager panel plugin by default, but instead stick to indicator-power. This can easily be resolved by uninstalling indicator-power and adding the “Power Manager Plugin” to the panel.
[10:36] <Terry4> easily fixed
[10:42] <QVIKti455> 3 months ago posted: "wow not just me. I have an i5, gtx 660, and 8 gigs of ram yet cinnamon lags and crashes and is pretty terrible..."
[10:43] <QVIKti455> "I would be using Cinnamon instead of MATE on this computer if it could handle it, but it's old and locked up A LOT"
[10:43] <flocculant> QVIKti455: there are bugs in all of them, if you're going to wander around the internet watching videos looking for something perfect - you won't
[10:44] <QVIKti455> I won't what?
[10:44] <flocculant> QVIKti455: what you need to do is download and check out if YOU are affected by the same things
[10:44] <flocculant> you won't find something perfect
[10:45] <QVIKti455> I am a Windows user wanting to migrate to Linux. But Windows has been rock-solid for me. I'd like to see the Linux teams band together on something as "just works" as Windows is.
[10:45] <Terry4> QVIKti455: XFCE is better than cinnamon.  i'm not sure about MATE, but it looks fine
[10:46] <Terry4> QVIKti455: have u tried Xubuntu, Linux Mint XFCE?
[10:46] <QVIKti455> Terry4: What makes you say it's better? Lighter and more stable?
[10:46] <flocculant> QVIKti455:  really - just try it
[10:47] <flocculant> QVIKti455: and if YOU get issues then ask for support for those things
[10:47] <Terry4> QVIKti455: Cinnamon, unity, GNOME--- they all add "eye candy"  shadows/transparency/ transitions/animations/compiz  etc.    which i dont like cuz it slows computer down, and it adds complexity
[10:48] <Terry4> QVIKti455: XFCE, MATE, LXDE   are more streamlined.  so they are faster, and *usually* more stable (but nothing is perfect)
[10:49] <QVIKti455> The MATE seems better supported than XFCE on the Linux Mint side. They're at 17.3 MATE, 17.2 XFCE. And the XFCE isn't shown on the main DL page.
[10:49] <Terry4> and if u like "eyecandy" u can also add it to XFCE, MATE, LXDE.   but they dont "force" it on u
[10:49] <QVIKti455> I don't care about eye candy.
[10:50] <QVIKti455> I just need to get my work done.
[10:50] <QVIKti455> I'll try Xubuntu and Linux Mint 17.3 MATE.
[10:50] <Terry4> QVIKti455: i like XFCE the best, it has been around a long time, and was the default in Debain until recently.  it still is default in many "no nonsense" distros
[10:50] <QVIKti455> Xubuntu LTS is what you recommend, yes?
[10:51] <Terry4> LTS yes
[10:51] <QVIKti455> You're using the LTS yourself?
[10:51] <Terry4> try Linux Mint XFCE also. yes i use LTS, more programs are made for it
[10:52] <flocculant> I wouldn't - I would install 15.10, then upgrade to 16.04 when that is out - then set which version to upgrade to as LTS
[10:52] <Terry4> MATE does not have "adjustable aero-snap" where u can snap the window the left with ur mouse, to fill 50% of the screen and then readjust to 30-80%
[10:53] <Terry4> windows invented that in "Aero"
[10:53] <Terry4> XFCE does have aero-snap
[10:55] <Reduser667> Back. I forgot what name I was using.
[10:55] <Reduser667> Why doesn't Linux Mint show XFCE on its main DL page? Why are they trying to push it back out of the way?
[10:56] <Reduser667> flocculant, Why would you go with 15.10 instead of LTS?
[10:58] <flocculant> why install something 2 years old instead of something that is going to upgrade to the next LTS is out in 4 months
[10:59] <Reduser667> Everyone just always suggesteed that LTS is the one to use. The others are buggy and prone to crashing.
[11:00] <Reduser667> In 4 months the 15.10 will easily upgrade itself to the LTS?
[11:00] <flocculant> do as you wish - in the time it's taken to discuss this I could have downloaded the image and tried it
[11:00] <Reduser667> What do you say to that Terry?
[11:00] <Reduser667> I can try a distro for 10 minutes
[11:01] <Reduser667> but I can't know how it really behaves over a 2 month period
[11:01] <Reduser667> That's why I have to read and see what other users are experiencing.
[11:01] <flocculant> yep - anyway I'm off
[11:01] <Reduser667> This is going on my productivity workstation
[11:01] <Reduser667> I need a workhorse.
[11:02] <flocculant> the S in LTS is for support NOT stable
[11:03] <Reduser667> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxmpUKhIZRE <-- Ubuntu Mate 15.10. It looks good.
[11:06] <Reduser667> "I dumped Linux mint mate for Ubuntu mate and love it"
[11:08] <Reduser667> But this man says this: "...I am running now Ubuntu Unity 15.10 (rocksolid) on my main machine and Manjaro on my laptop."
[11:08] <Reduser667> He doesn't like Ubuntu Mate.
[11:11] <Terry4> Reduser667: press TAB to autocomplete usernames in IRC.  u can also do tab-complete in Terminal
[11:11] <Reduser667> What do you think of Manjaro XFCE?
[11:11] <Terry4> Reduser667:  i use LTS, because more software is written for it, that is why.
[11:12] <Reduser667> You mean some software won't run if you don't use LTS?
[11:14] <Reduser667> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvF5dzNz4GY
[11:14] <Reduser667> This man loves it. Says it's "done to perfection."
 Reduser667
[11:20] <Reduser667> Am I missing anything in Ubuntu that is in Mint?
[11:20] <Terry4> linux mint is ONLY LTS, so no choice there :)
[11:21] <Terry4> Reduser667: there are a lot of little nice things in mint:  colorized terminal, right-clicking actions in Nemo, thunar, easy to update kernel
[11:23] <Reduser667> I presume the Ubuntu kernel updates when you upgrade to a new LTS?
[11:23] <bekks> Yes.
[11:23] <Terry4> Reduser667:  ubuntu updates kernel too. but in mint u can easily update to newer one if u want.
[11:24] <Terry4> Reduser667:  do u use aero-snap? that would help narrow ur choices
[11:24] <Reduser667> I don't.
[11:24] <bekks> The same applies for Ubuntu. You can easily upgrade to newer kernels.
[11:25] <Terry4> bekks: not as easily though
[11:25] <Reduser667> Basically I adapt to any interface. I am not partial to any particular interface. But I like ease of use, being light on resources, and being very stable.
[11:25] <bekks> Terry4: Same as easily. Been there, done that.
[11:27] <Terry4> Reduser667:   try Linux Mint XFCE , it will updated to 17.3 very soon anyway   http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=194
[11:27] <Terry4> bekks: how?
[11:27] <bekks> Terry4: apt install ...
[11:27] <bekks> Terry4: Please dont advertise Mint in here, This is Ubuntu support.
[11:28] <Terry4> bekks:  clicking on a GUI is simpler than , apt install ...
[11:29] <bekks> Wow. There are guis for the package manager in Ubuntu too.
[11:29] <bekks> Did you even know that?
[11:29] <knome> did anyone have an unanswered support question here?
[11:30] <Reduser667> You mean Mint has no more GUI parts than Ubuntu has?
[11:30] <Terry4> Reduser667: MATE and XFCE are similar, try them both.   i just personally like XFCE cuz of aero-snap
[11:31] <knome> mint might have some GUI applications that aren't in the ubuntu repositories, but since mint is based heavily on ubuntu, it isn't really that different
[11:31] <bekks> MATE isnt similar to XFCE. It is similar to the dead-end Gnome2
[11:31] <Terry4> Reduser667: eventually Ubunu will have a GUI to upgrade the kernel, but for now , it doesnt
[11:31] <bekks> IT does.
[11:32] <Reduser667> MATE has an excellent development team: http://mate-desktop.org/team/ <-- for your part, bekks, why do you prefer Xubuntu over Ubuntu MATE?
[11:32] <knome> Terry4, you can upgrade the kernel with any package manager
[11:32] <Terry4> bekks: i mean with one click
[11:32] <bekks> It is calles update-manager, synaptic, etc. etc. etc.
[11:32] <bekks> Terry4: If you dont know about what Ubuntu provides, please dont tell people it doesnt. :P
[11:33] <knome> if nobody has a support question and only want to talk about different DE's, please move to #xubuntu-offtopic, which is the channel for that kind of discussion
[11:33] <Reduser667> I went over to #xubuntu-offtopic
[11:35] <Terry4> bekks: please tell me where u can one-click install new kernel in ubuntu, like this:   http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2014/07/update-manager-more-kernel-info/
[11:35] <Terry4> Linux Mint, just makes it easier
[11:35] <knome> Terry4, please.
[11:35] <knome> Terry4, i've told you to move to another channel, so you've been noticed
[11:36] <roninn> moi
[11:36] <roninn> do you know if it's possible to control volume from the cmd line
[11:37] <Terry4> that is the beauty of FOSS, project can improve on eachother, there is no hate here , i am trying to help
[11:38] <bekks> Terry4: You are not helping, you are just advertising Mint. So please move it to the channel you've been told.
[11:38] <bekks> roninn: Yes you can. Using amixer e.g.
[11:41] <roninn> thanks
[12:06] <dixie7z_> roninn, alsamixer
[12:22] <roninn> then I only need a remote software for clementine and ssh connection from phone to my desktop
[12:22] <roninn> but since linux supports ssh as default (unlike windows) i only need something to remote control clementine
[12:22] <roninn> if there's nothing out, I guess I need to study more programming
[12:23] <roninn> oh there is an app for android
[17:13] <scrabcakes> My soundcard doesn't seem to be loading, only HDMI is loaded. Any ideas?
[17:58] <puff> Every now and then emacs opens its xwindow a little too tall, so the message buffer is below the bottom edge of the screen.  Usually when it does this I can just use F10 to maximize it and it adjusts the height to match the screen, but sometimes, as today, it does not.  And it doesn't seem to want to let me adjust the vertical size.  It will let me drag the window size horizontally, but apparently not vertically.
[21:06] <iamabeginner> Hi ! I have a questio regarding encryption home folder and swap...
[21:06] <iamabeginner> 1. when i install xubuntu on my pc and choose encrypt home folder it will encrypt the home and swap folder or only the home folder?
[21:07] <bekks> Only your home.
[21:07] <bekks> Otherwise it would tell you "encrypt home and swap".
[21:07] <iamabeginner> 2. if I increase the size of the home folder.. the encryption will still work for the new size of the home folder or no?
[21:07] <bekks> Depends on how you expand your home folder.
[21:08] <iamabeginner> bekks.. thanks...
[21:08] <iamabeginner> it was 30Go at th beginning and now it i 70Go
[21:09] <bekks> So how did ypu expand it?
[21:09] <iamabeginner> using gparted...
[21:10] <iamabeginner> on a usb stick
[21:10] <iamabeginner> gparted live...
[21:13] <iamabeginner> abit complicated to explain but in summary.. sda5 is my home folder... sda6 my data folder ( a folder I want common for 2 linux distros) and sda7 unallocated space...
[21:14] <iamabeginner> so i expanded sda6 with 40Go more, resized it after with his normal size, and expanded the home folder from 30 to 70Go...
[21:18] <iamabeginner> bekks:  how does it sound??
[21:20] <bekks> So you just expanded the partition, and did nothing else?
[21:21] <bekks> iamabeginner: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[21:21] <iamabeginner> nothing else
[21:22] <iamabeginner> rebooted the system after and that's al
[21:24] <iamabeginner> with the link you sent me it looks like the home folder with the new size is not anymore encrypted...
[21:26] <iamabeginner> i will need to have a look carefully...
[21:27] <iamabeginner> 2 other questions... i use xubuntu 14.04lts... we use fstab to mount partition automatically or another command??
[21:29] <iamabeginner> last question.. I have a data folder that I use for 2 linux distros... if I want to encryp this partition which command will I use??
[22:16] <xubuntu77w> hello every one
[22:16] <xubuntu77w> have got a problem
[22:16] <xubuntu77w> with my xubuntu
[22:17] <bekks> xubuntu77w: So ask right away, without pressing enter :)
[22:17] <xubuntu77w> can't get on the gui
[22:17] <xubuntu77w> i'm on the console mode, since i don't know xubuntu well i did the startx command but it failed
[22:18] <xubuntu77w> is there another command for xubuntu to get the gui ?
[22:21] <xubuntu77w> nobody ?
[22:24] <xubuntu77w> hum ok
[22:28] <knome> failed in what way?
[22:28] <knome> did it output anything?
[22:29] <knome> and how did you end up in the console?


[23:11] <sk11p3r> Hi!
[23:12] <sk11p3r> This channel is to talk about Ubuntu generaly?
[23:15] <sarnold> it's normally used only for specific meetings
[23:15] <sarnold> people tend to ignore it unless there's a meeting going on that they're interested in
[23:15] <sarnold> #ubuntu gets a lot more traffic
[23:24] <sk11p3r> thanks


[00:57] <mmikowski> sgmoore: Can you give me edit rights to https://invent.kde.org/teams/distribution-kubuntu/to-do-24.04/-/work_items/10? I can't edit the tasks to help out!
 Sorry, with early rise comes early sleep haha. If I can sort out how. I wouldn't think it would lock it to me.. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> sgmoore: Can you give me edit rights to https://invent.kde.org/teams/distribution-kubuntu/to-do-24.04/-/work_items/10? I can't edit the tasks to help out!)
[12:02] <mmikowski> Sgmoore that is riding early. Arraybolt3 was able to set access rights.
[12:02] <mmikowski> *rising. Sorry, autocorrect.
[12:02] <mmikowski> The thrive is done.
[12:03] <mmikowski> *throbber.
[12:04] <mmikowski> See the post on the ticket. Not sure how to create a MR, but the changes are in the branch provided.
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 alright LTS upgrade path should be fixed. Now to find the bug with duplicate sources..


[15:56] <netritious> how's it going?
[16:45] <Ubik> alright
[16:46] <Ubik> considering litigation against cyberanger
[16:59] <netritious> Hello Ubik, what did cyberanger do?
[17:00] <Ubik> Not being here. :P
[17:00] <Ubik> (And apparently not having something push to him when we mention him.)
[17:00] <netritious> oh lol
[17:00] <Ubik> You'd think when you talk about suing the guy, he'd respond in some way, shape, or form.
[17:02] <netritious> eh life happens I guess.
[17:02] <netritious> so how's life trating you Ubik?
[17:03] <Ubik> okay for the most part, you?
[17:03] <netritious> I'm alive lol
[17:04] <netritious> yeah it's ok. fam is good
[17:06] <netritious> still using Ubuntu?
[17:08] <Ubik> nah
[17:08] <Ubik> well, not on my desktop... MacOS at this point, Debian for all my servers
[17:08] <Ubik> although I think there's 1 or 2 stray Ubuntu servers out there
[17:10] <netritious> just seems LXD via snap has fewer problems on ubuntu.
[17:11] <netritious> which if you think about it kind of makes sense s they are both produced by canonical
[17:11] <netritious> *as
[17:13] <Ubik> yeah
[17:13] <Ubik> problem I ran into with snap was I couldn't modify anything inside it
[17:14] <netritious> same
[17:14] <netritious> i think that's the point though
[17:15] <netritious> also in the next LTS release the only way to get LXD is via snap
[17:15] <Ubik> Well, how do you modify your URL rewrite configs for Nextcloud when trying to edit it (as root, nonetheless) renders "Permission denied" ?
[17:15] <Ubik> That's when I switched the box to Debian and just installed NC manually.
[17:15] <Ubik> (wasn't much more trouble to do it manually, and I seem to have more control over it)
[17:16] <netritious> i have a stack in production that is 16.04 with LXD v2 via apt. works great for almost three years now
[17:17] <netritious> fortuantely or unfortuantely? someone elses headache now lol
[17:17] <Ubik> lol
[17:18] <Ubik> That was the only experience I had with snap... so for all I know it could be a good product, I just haven't messed with it outside of that one bad experience.
[17:20] <netritious> i setup k8 via snap. was fairly painless
[17:20] <netritious> trying to say I don't have much more experience than you with snap
[17:20] <Ubik> ah