[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Jak2000: if you used ssh and sftp, you did NOT use ftp, they are not the same
[08:08] <samuel> i want it to read something else, like just "desktop"
[08:08] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/...ick-on-windows
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: your link got "shortended", can you try that again?
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: there are a few tutorials that match that pattern and some of them are for older versions of ubuntu
[08:09] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[08:10] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: ok, and what is listed on the first menu you see when booting off of it? (what is the first question)
[08:11] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: It's called 'Installer boot menu
[08:12] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: and what are all hte options?
[08:12] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivior: The options are "Run ubuntu from this usb" || "Install ubuntu on a hard disl" || "Test Memory" || "Boot from first hard disk" || "Advanced Options" || "Help"
[08:12] <trippy3199usmoun> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[08:12] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I have selected "Install ubuntu on a hard disl"
[08:13] <trippy3199usmoun> you might need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program
[08:13] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: And after about 6 seconds of scrolling texts, those errors just repeat over and over.
[08:13] <trippy3199usmoun> try dmesg  |  tail or so
[08:14] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: use "run ubuntu from this usb"
[08:14] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: is that the output you got?
[08:14] <trippy3199usmoun> ill paste exactly .. one sec
[08:16] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: use "run", then once you get to the desktop, use the "install" icon on the desktop to do the installation
[08:16] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: Now it ends in a bug I've encountered before. I made a post on the ubuntu forum which describes the stopping point in detail: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986548
[08:16] <trippy3199usmoun> http://pastebin.com/X0crkahV
[08:17] <MacroMan> I've got an annoying problem that I'm not sure anyone can help me with. About once a week, my computer freezes (but the mouse still moves). My comp is on for 9 hrs a day. There is nothing in syslog or any other log that I've looked at. No errors. Just completey unresponsive.
[08:17] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: did you get that same error when trying "run" instead of "install"?
[08:17] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: does it get hot, as in a fan is not working anymore?
[08:17] <MacroMan> There also doesn't seem to be a pattern. I'm usually using a different program when it happens.
[08:17] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: could be cpu fan, psu fan, gfx fan, case fan...
[08:17] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: do you remember what it was formatted to? (fat32, ntfs, ext3, etc?)
[08:18] <MacroMan> tarzeau_: No, it's a relatively new machine, only 3 months old
[08:18] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: new or not, i've seen broken fans in newer machines
[08:18] <MacroMan> Wouldn't that trip a temp alarm?
[08:18] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: or not properly connected cables
[08:18] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: usually but not always
[08:18] <MacroMan> Could be. So your thinking more of a hardware problem?
[08:18] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: Now, the 'Ubuntu' screen came up with the 4 dots underneath, but then the screen froze and it's a giant screen of black and white random bars....
[08:18] <trippy3199usmoun> its an xbox formatted disk.. so probably fat32
[08:18] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: i would consider it, yes
[08:19] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: did you try the nomodeset idea that the responder mentioned in the forum post you linked to?
[08:20] <MacroMan> tarzeau_: Thanks, I'll open my case and see what's going on. Once thing that still bothers me though. Why does the mouse continue to move? It's not like the whole thing is frozen, just my desktop enviroment
[08:20] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: try "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/.... /mnt/"
[08:20] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: graphics card driver problem maybe? nvidia or not nvidia card/drier?
[08:21] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: i guess that's 1204?
[08:22] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I press 'F6' but it doesnt do anything, the screen just flickers. But it opens no promps or ability to 'tick nomodeset'
[08:22] <trippy3199usmoun> darwinSurvivor: mount: special device /dev/disk/by-id/usb-PNY_Tech_USB_2.0_FD_05801105010413481800281-0:0 does not exist
[08:22] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: you need to hit it early in the boot, just keep hitting it over and over again
[08:23] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: check the /dev/ directory and make sure it is still there
[08:23] <Rav3n> I've previously been using ubuntu-desktop, and my pcmia wifi and wired cards were working fine. I recently reinstalled w/ ubuntu-server (11.04, now upgraded to 12.04) and my pcmia cards are not working. When i was using the gui system, I was able to install restricted drivers. Is there any way to install those restricted drivers from command line? I'm currently able to get internet by booting off a livecd and binding and chrooting to my hard drive.
[08:23] <openvoid_> i was thinking shift pressed brings boot menu in grub2
[08:24] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: still there.. everyother file has 0 bytes.. but that file has 9 bytes.. for some reason
[08:24] <DarwinSurvivor> openvoid_: good point
[08:24] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: hold shift while booting until you see a menu asking which kernel to boot, then hit F6
[08:25] <openvoid_> Rav3n, apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras or something same
[08:25] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: the bite size means very little, they are block devices
[08:25] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I got the purple screen with the white 'Ubuntu' letters now and the 5 dots underneath are solid orange for about 2 minutes, nothing moving. Then my screen turns into a serious of black and white bars and squares that appear to be random.
[08:25] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: to rule out a typo, when you get to "/dev/usb-" hit tab and it should auto-complete the name
[08:27] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: the menu will be before the purple screen. if you see the purple screen, you missed the menu
[08:28] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I've tried holding Shift through the whole boot process but no such menu is generated.
[08:29] <trippy3199usmoun> darwinSurvivor: same result
[08:31] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: ok, try "sudo dd if=/dev/the-device-here of=/home/your-username-here/flashbackup.img"
[08:31] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: that should make a backup of the device, you may be able to mount *that* instead
[08:33] <amh345> how is it possible that im still logged into my server via terminal even after i execute sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[08:33] <MacroMan> tarzeau_: Yes, nVidia. I had trouble with the offical driver so I never installed it. Could that be it?
[08:34] <samuel> i wonder if anyone could help me, i'm looking to debrand unity - i know how to alter the launcher but the top panel is still giving me problems
[08:34] <samuel> every time i'm at the desktop it shows "ubuntu desktop" in the top panel
[08:34] <samuel> i want it to read something else, like just "desktop"
[08:34] <DarwinSurvivor> amh345: yes, i've seen that happen before. don't rely on it though!
[08:34] <trippy3199usmoun> darwinSurvivor: no such file or directory?
[08:34] <MacroMan> tarzeau_: Just had the cover off. All fans seem to be running fine and it doesn't seem too hot in there.
[08:34] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: weird
[08:34] <amh345> DarwinSurvivor: what do you mean dont rely on it?
[08:34] <amh345> hah
[08:35] <trippy3199usmoun> darwinSurvivor: ill double check everything real quick....
[08:35] <ferni> amh345: it just stops the server listening and accepting new connections
[08:35] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: and you're sure this is a standard off-the-shelf usb flash drive?
[08:35] <CptK00k> Hi
[08:35] <CptK00k> how DO I ZOOM IN WITH BLUEFISH
[08:35] <trippy3199usmoun> darwinSurvivor: does it matter that its in /dev/disk/by-id/
[08:35] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: not some weird memory card that just happens to have a usb port?
[08:35] <CptK00k> >:(
[08:35] <DarwinSurvivor> !caps
[08:35] <trippy3199usmoun> its a pny 8gb.. pretty common..
[08:35] <amh345> ferni: oh. youre right. heh
[08:36] <CptK00k> oke, how do i zoom in with bluefish
[08:36] <trippy3199usmoun> its about a year old.. and its really common.. its still on shelves...
[08:36] <CptK00k> ?????????????
[08:36] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: ok, just wanted to make sure it wasn't some proprietary xbox thing
[08:36] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | CptK00k
[08:37] <amh345> im trying to set my server to timeout the ssh session if it's idle for x amount of seconds.   i've put this in sshd_config ClientAliveInterval 30  but it doesnt seem to do anything at all.  any ideas?
[08:37] <bhull05> DarwinSurvivor: I keep getting the same issue of the frozen black and white screen. I can't figure out how to get the 'nomodeset' option up though. If you would like to send me a private message and wait until you have others' issues solved, that's fine with me.
[08:37] <CptK00k> So nobody knows how to zoom in with a web editor.
[08:37] <CptK00k> wow
[08:37] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: nope, tho they would do that to us wouldnt they.. i swear they put timers in everything so you have to replace them.. lol..
[08:38] <CptK00k> how tragic
[08:38] <samuel> CptK00k, try with the built in accessability settings if there is no feature within the program
[08:38] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: I've never had to use nomodeset myself, I just know that it has helped quite a few users run 12.04.
[08:39] <CptK00k> :P
[08:39] <CptK00k> you are kidding me right
[08:39] <DarwinSurvivor> bhull05: I probably won't be able to help you more than that forum post did, perhaps somebody else can assist you further
[08:39] <CptK00k> ?
[08:39] <bhull05> Darwin
[08:39] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: you are not the only person in here getting help. please be patient and allow others that were here before you to be helped
[08:39] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: i think it might just write to it to much... every level of everygame.. so every ten minutes its rewriting over what was just saved.. the flash memory isnt like the old school memory in NINTENDO games.. it just isnt built right anymore...
[08:39] <bhull05> Thanks anyway, take it easy.
[08:39] <nRy_> Hi, does anyone know the AMI id for an Ubuntu 12.4 LTS image on Amazon Web Services?
[08:40] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: in the mean time, try holding Ctrl and using the scrollwheel on your mouse, that's a fairly universal scroll shortcut for browsers
[08:40] <amh345> anyone?  ssh ClientAliveInterval does nothing.   how to make it timeout?
[08:40] <samuel> or look under the view menu
[08:40] <CptK00k> i dont need help i need some information about how to zoom in with this shit, yes i tried holding down ctrl mousewheel but it zooooomsss out nomatter what direction
[08:41] <samuel> have you tried ctrl and +
[08:41] <CptK00k> YES i did
[08:41] <chu> CptK00k: Please be careful with the language. Remember to keep it family friendly.
[08:41] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: try scrolling the other way...?
[08:41] <samuel> are you using the latest version of bluefish on the ubuntu repositories?
[08:42] <CptK00k> doesnt work
[08:42] <CptK00k> :RAGE:
[08:42] <samuel> are you using the latest version of bluefish on the ubuntu repositories?
[08:42] <CptK00k> yes
[08:43] <samuel> it might be worth looking for a ppa with the developers latest version, it might be a bug that has already been fixed but hasnt been updated to ubuntu's repositories, are you using 12.04?
[08:43] <CptK00k> argh yes
[08:44] <samuel> check what version you are using, then go to google and type "bluefish ppa"
[08:44] <DarwinSurvivor> !ppa | sam
[08:44] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: any other suggestions.. or am i basically out of options besides the trash can.. just hate to lose over a year of hard work on my favorite games..
[08:44] <samuel> if the version there is lower than your current version, then update
[08:44] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: does the xbox not keep a local copy of the game saves...?
[08:44] <CptK00k> there is no PPA for bluefish
[08:44] <samuel> if the version is the same, then file a bug report
[08:44] <CptK00k> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[08:45] <samuel> there is a ppa for bluefish because my colleague is using it to get the latest version even though he is using oneric
[08:45] <trippy3199usmoun> they need to make a cloud for xbox saves.. you have to pay for online play anyway.. whats it gunna hurt to include a cloud for save games.. damn microsoft.. exactly why i use ubuntu in the first place..
[08:45] <CptK00k> well enlighten me
[08:46] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: i guess it could.. but then you can only play on one xbox period.. or everything you do gets lost..
[08:46] <DarwinSurvivor> samuel: PPA's are not officially supported, they are not supposed to be recommended in the #ubuntu channel
[08:47] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: if there is a local save copy, you could put a new usb drive in and copy to that.
[08:47] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: I don't have an xbox, but on my PS3 all games are saved locally, then you can manually copy them on/off a usb stick for portability
[08:47] <samuel> well in that case i recommend going here https://launchpad.net/bluefish and filing a bug
[08:47] <trippy3199usmoun> there isnt... its all on the usb unfortunatly.. and ps3 is way better... this would be one example of many..
[08:48] <samuel> going direct to the devs of the project will get you a better answer
[08:48] <CptK00k> so you are basicly saying to me that i need to download from a grimey ass PPA instead of the ubuntu directories, in which it clearly is added but doesnt seem to have the most simplistic function of zooming in on some code?
[08:48] <trippy3199usmoun> i have both.. but i have never ever had an issue with my ps3.. and xbox i have had tons of problems with..
[08:48] <CptK00k> FML
[08:48] <samuel> i didnt write it, no point raging at me
[08:48] <samuel> i'm not a ubuntu developer
[08:48] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: samuel is right. bluefish is a fairly obscure browser on ubuntu, so you probably wont' find many people in here that have used it
[08:49] <samuel> i'm trying very hard not to advise you to get a refund
[08:49] <trippy3199usmoun> well except.. my ps3 will not use vga anymore.. after a while it starts to bleed all the colors everywhere.. so i have to use hdmi now..
[08:49] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: their developers should be able to assist you though
[08:49] <CptK00k> Care to give me a alternative?
[08:49] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: ps3's don't have vga as far as I know (rca, hdmi and that 4-plug one dvd players use)
[08:50] <trippy3199usmoun> i mean rca.. im sorry
[08:50] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: there are TONS of browsers. firefox is the default. what features are you looking for (other than zooming)
[08:50] <trippy3199usmoun> red white yellow..
[08:50] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: yep, rca
[08:50] <CptK00k> ITS NOT A BROWSER
[08:51] <CptK00k> ITS A WEB EDITOR
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: there may be more you can do to recover the drive, but at this point I can't think of anything
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: OH, that bluefish!
[08:51] <morsnowski> CptK00k, stop shouting!
[08:51] <CptK00k> Shouting? its a chatroom dude , give me a break
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> CptK00k: hmm, for zooming in there, you'll probably have to go through the menus or something
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> !caps | CptK00k
[08:52] <CptK00k> Uppercasing is not shouting alright
[08:52] <CptK00k> shouting involves sound waves going through your eardrums
[08:52] <cirustus> ok guys im new to ubuntu but have a few questions to ask
[08:52] <chu> Calm down CptK00k.  Remember, people are here to *help* you.
[08:52] <chu> cirustus: Sure, ask away!
[08:53] <cirustus> i have ubuntu 12.04
[08:53] <cirustus> now im trying to connect to my windows share but cant access them
[08:53] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: thank you tho.. you gave me a few ideas ill tinker around with.. i didnt realize it was showing up in my /dev/ so ill see if i can work with that and the bad sector i error i found.. maybe ill be able to get it eventually.. wish my usb had a light on it so i could tell if im even really reading it.. my system knows its pny and its usb 2.0.. so there is hope..
[08:53] <CptK00k> yeah but iam getting pretty p*ssed off, ive spent my whole day fixing stuff instead of making webpages thus money
[08:53] <chu> CptK00k: Yep, understandble.
[08:53] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: one last thing
[08:54] <CptK00k> i can understand that for amateurs it sounds fun to tinker with this and that
[08:54] <cirustus> now ive read the forums and they are saying samba had a re-write done
[08:54] <CptK00k> but time == money
[08:54] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: most usb drives use a separate controller chip to identify it as a usb drive. you can completely mangle the fs itself (write random garbage to every sector) and you should still be able to access it for reformatting.
[08:54] <nvucinic> hi, is there some project in ubuntu to install  printer on multiple computers at once?  i know about cluster ssh and similar stuff, but gui would be prefered....
[08:54] <cirustus> i have a older version of it but its a tar.gz file how do i install it
[08:54] <samuel> CptKook, then i suggest you get over to the launchpad page that i linked you to, submit a bug, then go back to the software center and look for annother ide to make your website
[08:55] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: this makes me think it may not be a bad-sector problem but possibly a hardware problem (loose plug, over-voltaged, etc)
[08:55] <chu> CptK00k: Well, now you're getting offtopic.  I asked you to keep it family-friendly.
[08:56] <theadmin> cirustus: To mount a Windows share, use: mount -t cifs //your_server/your_share some_directory -o user=your_share_username,password=your_share_password
[08:56] <CptK00k> just saying
[08:56] <dr_willis> wife likes that compiz zoom feature now that i showed it to her.. must be her fav feature
[08:56] <CptK00k> I am not always a douche but today i am
[08:56] <cirustus> my share dont have usernames or passwords attached to them
[08:57] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurviver: is it worth sending in for $150 is what it may come down to.. they have the equipment to test that..  there otta be some software i can find thru research that will allow my computer to do some of those tests for me tho..
[08:57] <theadmin> cirustus: Then make it simplier: mount -t cifs //your_server/your_share some_directory
[08:57] <cirustus> and thats using terminal correct
[08:57] <theadmin> cirustus: Yeah, I have no idea how to do it in the GUI (haven't used Unity)
[08:57] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: that $150 (microsoft support?) will be for fixing the xbox (which is probably 100% functional), they probably won't even try to recover the usb drvie
[08:58] <cirustus> ok does that use samba or the smb?
[08:58] <theadmin> cirustus: Err, "samba" and "smb" are the same thing ("smb" is short for "samba")
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> cirustus: smb *is* samba (short name for it)
[08:58] <cirustus> ok lol
[08:58] <dr_willis> the nautilus file manager has samba share support .  smb://serverip_or_name/sharename cirustus
[08:59] <chu> CptK00k: As I said, I understand the frustration. But please, if you want help, be patient and polite. People will be *far* more likely to help you.
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: you might have more luck on some xbox channels or forums, there are probably others that have had this happen that might have suggestions for getting your games back
[08:59] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurviver: i found a USB Flash Drive recovery company that charges 146 for recovery of usb drives.. but im not really wanting to spend 146 for crap i already spend hundreds on in the first place..
[08:59] <cirustus> the only other thing is all my shares are on a nas thats given an ip by dhcp so if a reboot the modem i get new ip address will i have to re mount it everytime i reboot?
[08:59] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: thats accually great advice.. your probably right
[09:00] <DarwinSurvivor> cirustus: set up a static ip on the nas, or get the router to use static-dhcp. NEVER try to set up a nas on dhcp alone!
[09:00] <lpapp> Hi! Is there a script that is run on boot so that I can make sure certain commands, I wish, are executed during the boot ? We have something like /etc/rc.local on Archlinux
[09:00] <morsnowski> cirustus, can't you give it a dedicated IP?
[09:00] <dr_willis> cirustus:  samba is  supposed to handele the names of the server notip. but  it can have issues. I set my router to give static ip addresses to my servers - makes it easier
[09:00] <samuel> trippy3199usmoun, try photorec for recovering data from damaged flash drives
[09:00] <nvucinic> hi, is there some project in ubuntu to install  printer on multiple computers at once?  i know about cluster ssh and similar stuff, but gui would be prefered....
[09:00] <onosendi>  I'm using mate with marco as my WM. How would I go about getting the geometry of a window when it is closed? It's x, y, w, h, etc?
[09:00] <chu> lpapp: have you looked for /etc/rc.local on Ubuntu?
[09:00] <theadmin> lpapp: /etc/rc.local :P It's the good old init thing, it exists almost everywhere
[09:00] <samuel> its great for ripping files off any file system and copying them to a target directory
[09:00] <trippy3199usmoun> samuel: i tried.. but its not recognizing my drive
[09:00] <dr_willis> nvucinic:  its possible the cups web interface/tools may do it. but ive never noticed such a tool/gui
[09:00] <cirustus> well my problem is that its not my nas but my house mates and he wont give it a static ip
[09:01] <lpapp> theadmin: heh true
[09:01] <lpapp> I am dumb and blind ;)
[09:01] <DarwinSurvivor> cirustus: then I offically recommend that you smack him upside the head and tell him to :D
[09:01] <nvucinic> dr_willis: is there something like "local synaptic" where you can install apps on multiple servers ?
[09:01] <samuel> cant you do it by the host name? cirustus
[09:01] <lpapp> good to know it is not something distribution specific
[09:01] <dr_willis> findsmb and smbtree can scan thenetwork and show the name/ips of servers. or nmap the network
[09:02] <trippy3199usmoun> samuel: it just shows my main hard drive.. and any other usb drives i plug in.. but not the one thats being a terd.. i noticed if i plug it into windows 7.. it just loads unloads loads unloads over and over again...
[09:02] <cirustus> i do that anyway be he refuses and if i do it for him i wont be allowed to use the net anymore ect...
[09:02] <dr_willis> nvucinic:  i set up a apt-cach-ng server, then just use ssh/scripts
[09:02] <cirustus> i can try
[09:02] <nvucinic> dr_willis: yeah, i have similar idea :D
[09:02] <theadmin> lpapp: /etc/rc.conf doesn't exist in Ubuntu though :P
[09:02] <DarwinSurvivor> trippy3199usmoun: just had a last thought. try using some rubbing alcohol (99+%) and a q-tip to clean the contacts!
[09:02] <vivien_m> Hello. xrandr (under Ubuntu 12.04) does not see my external monitor (plugged to VGA) while nvidia-settings sees it. How can I solve that?
[09:03] <chu> theadmin: /etc/rc.local though?
[09:03] <CptK00k> xorg.conf
[09:03] <DarwinSurvivor> theadmin: /etc/rc.local not rc.conf
[09:03] <CptK00k> @vivien_m
[09:03] <chu> CptK00k: Thank you :)
[09:03] <vivien_m> CptK00k: I would not like to write the configuration for that particular monitor in xorg.conf
[09:03] <CptK00k> Then Good Luck!
[09:03] <CptK00k> Have a nice day
[09:04] <theadmin> DarwinSurvivor, chu: Please read the conversation more carefully -- He's migrating (or something) from Arch and looks for an alternative to /etc/rc.local (which is still there on Ubuntu, as I did say), however one must be aware that the almighty rc.conf is not there on Ubuntu.
[09:04] <cirustus> no it wont let me use the hostname :(
[09:04] <dr_willis> rc.totallyrocksthehouse  ;)
[09:05] <dr_willis> cirustus:  nmap scan the network, or use findsmb or smbtree to get its ip#
[09:05] <vivien_m> CptK00k: In a previous installation, I had xrandr detecting everything without any action. Is it possible to write a generic xorg.conf so that xrandr detects any external monitor?
[09:05] <trippy3199usmoun> DarwinSurvivor: will do that right now.. another good idea... thank you..
[09:05] <CptK00k> Do you get a whitescreen or just nothing
[09:05] <CptK00k> blackness.....
[09:05] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Nothing. xrandr does not list the external monitor at all.
[09:05] <lpapp> theadmin: rc.local does not quite work
[09:05] <DarwinSurvivor> theadmin: I know, i actually use arch myself.
[09:06] <dr_willis> there is some ubuntu service  i recall thats supposed to help in the finding/maping of servers to their ip for samba
[09:06] <lpapp> theadmin: perhaps because the command is relevant to X ?
[09:06] <vivien_m> CptK00k: I tried in arandr which sees nothing either
[09:06] <lpapp> theadmin: xsetwacom set 12 area<PHONE_NUMBER> 3663 -> it is for calibrating the touchscreen of the toughbook.
[09:06] <dr_willis> lpapp:  rc.local cant do X stuff. ;)
[09:06] <theadmin> lpapp: Uh, yeah, if you want to use X stuff you need to run it from inside X -- try the "Startup Applications" thing
[09:06] <DarwinSurvivor> !init | lpapp is this what you are looking for?
[09:06] <lpapp> dr_willis: exactly. This is why I asked now I remember
[09:06] <lpapp> I tried back then and did not work
[09:06] <lpapp> I just forgot that situation unfortunately.
[09:06] <CptK00k> Does Xrander load?
[09:07] <alFReD-NSH> Anyone got any tool similar to unetbootin for ubuntu?
[09:07] <lpapp> so prolly an .xsessionrc might work way better
[09:07] <theadmin> alFReD-NSH: unetbootin has a Linux version and is actually in the Ubuntu repos.
[09:07] <alFReD-NSH> Wanna put the ubuntu 12.04 iso on usb drive
[09:07] <lpapp> theadmin: start application sounds scary
[09:07] <dr_willis> .xsession would be a totsally custome X setup - it does not for example run your gnoime desktop AnD the .xsession
[09:08] <vivien_m> CptK00k: I do not know what Xrander is. A kernel module? It is not in my kernel module list, apparently.
[09:08] <theadmin> lpapp: Meh I dunno then. ~/.profile ?
[09:08] <lusers> xinitrc / xsession ?
[09:08] <lpapp> dr_willis: so what is the X way DE agnostically ?
[09:08] <alFReD-NSH> theadmin: I tried it and my usb drive is already connected, but it doesn't show it there
[09:08] <dr_willis> lpapp:  put a script in the .config/autostart dir
[09:08] <lpapp> .xinitrc I used earlier
[09:08] <lizzin> i just installed ubuntu(12.04) for the first time. how do i tell it to start up in console mode instead of presenting the X login screen?
[09:08] <lpapp> dr_willis: that looks DE specific
[09:08] <theadmin> alFReD-NSH: Meh fudge it -- sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu-12.04.iso of=/dev/sdz
[09:08] <dr_willis> lpapp:  theres tye system wide x configs/scripts that run befor the DE begins for all users
[09:08] <lpapp> I need an X driven solution so that it is not gonna break with any DEs
[09:08] <CptK00k> How did you install Nvidia drivers?
[09:08] <theadmin> !text | lizzin
[09:09] <lpapp> ok ok
[09:09] <CptK00k> through software manager?
[09:09] <dr_willis> lpapp:  most all the des use the .config/autorun  what de are you using
[09:09] <cirustus> smbtree shows me the name but when i try to use the name to connect it says it cant
[09:09] <CptK00k> vivian?
[09:09] <lpapp> dr_willis: is it standardized ?
[09:09] <vivien_m> CptK00k: aptitude install nvidia-current
[09:09] <dr_willis> cirustus:  so use its ip.
[09:09] <CptK00k> yh dont do that
[09:09] <cirustus> i know the ip address for it and thats the only way i can connect to it
[09:09] <alFReD-NSH> theadmin: /dev/sdz is the usb drive path?
[09:09] <CptK00k> you need to reinstall
[09:09] <dr_willis> lpapp:  for kde/gnome/lubuntu/xfce/ it is
[09:09] <CptK00k> go download the drivers from nvidia
[09:09] <lpapp> dr_willis: IOW, what is wrong with ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession ?
[09:09] <lpapp> dr_willis: those look more standard options.
[09:09] <theadmin> alFReD-NSH: Yesh, but note it's "sdz", not "sdz1" or some such (drive, not partition!)
[09:09] <CptK00k> save them to Downloads
[09:09] <vivien_m> CptK00k: You suggest to install from NVidia sources?
[09:09] <CptK00k> rename them to something like nvidia.run
[09:09] <dr_willis> lpapp:  those get ran INSTEAD of the session you select at  the login screen ,
[09:10] <CptK00k> do CTRL+ALT F2
[09:10] <lizzin> theadmin: thanks
[09:10] <CptK00k> Cd to Downloads
[09:10] <alFReD-NSH> theadmin: actually on mine is /dev/sdb1
[09:10] <dr_willis> lpapp:  the login screen most likely has a 'custom' iutem that runs those..
[09:10] <cirustus> but thats going to the home folder and typing in the address bar
[09:10] <vivien_m> CptK00k: The Ubuntu nvidia package is not reliable?
[09:10] <lpapp> dr_willis: pardon ?
[09:10] <CptK00k> Sh nvidia.run
[09:10] <CptK00k> ohyeah do sudo service lightdm stop first
[09:10] <lpapp> dr_willis: aren't they run for any login session ?
[09:10] <lpapp> or even without that ?
[09:10] <dr_willis> lpapp:  you go to login/lightdm, select unity. .xsession is ignored..
[09:10] <bobweaver> CptK00k,  you forgot to tell hom to stop X
[09:10] <CptK00k> "sudo service ligthdm stop"
[09:10] <theadmin> alFReD-NSH: Make that /dev/sdb then
[09:10] <lizzin> theadmin: where is the default location for the X11 config file? i cant seem to find it in /etc/X11
[09:10] <dr_willis> lpapp:  NO they are not. :)
[09:10] <bobweaver> nm
[09:10] <lpapp> dr_willis: problem is that with autostart, it is not gonna work for the logic screen
[09:10] <lpapp> dr_willis: cannot use touch on the login screen etc either
[09:11] <theadmin> lizzin: It's /etc/X11/xorg.conf (but it does not even exist by default, X autoconfigures most of the time. If you need, you can create one with the sections you need)
[09:11] <vivien_m> CptK00k: I have no lightdm, BTW. I installed from mini.iso
[09:11] <dr_willis> lpapp:  what logic screen? if you want it to run for all users every time on all  possible X setups. you use the  /etc/X init scripts
[09:11] <CptK00k> You cant install nvidia with X server enabled
[09:11] <dr_willis> lpapp:  sounds like you have to go the /etc/ way.
[09:11] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Ok.
[09:11] <lpapp> dr_willis: ok, let me reword: I would like to get touch work as soon as X up
[09:11] <CptK00k> you have ubuntu right? 12.04 LTS?
[09:11] <lpapp> dr_willis: X is definitely up for the login screen already.
[09:11] <CptK00k> then you probably have lightdm
[09:11] <vivien_m> CptK00k: But why is the Ubuntu package not recommended?
[09:12] <dr_willis> lpapp:  ccheck the /etc/ X init stuff then, ;) only way i know of
[09:12] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Yes, 12.04 LTS
[09:12] <lpapp> dr_willis: which file in there ?
[09:12] <ASKidwai> Hello
[09:12] <ASKidwai> The installation could have failed because of an error in the corresponding software package or it was cancelled in an unfriendly way. You have to repair this before you can install or remove any further software.
[09:12] <dr_willis> lpapp:  no idea. id have to explore it. I  bet askubuntu.com has some guides on it
[09:12] <ASKidwai> I get this error, what do I do?
[09:12] <lpapp> perhaps xorg.conf I guess
[09:12] <ASKidwai> Ubuntu 10.04
[09:12] <dr_willis> lpapp:  no.. not xorg.conf that does not run commands
[09:12] <bobweaver> ASKidwai,  sudo apt-get -f install
[09:12] <lpapp> but is really no script running for the X up ? :o
[09:12] <CptK00k> Follow this guide: http://www.moonlitdog.com/nvidia_ubuntu
[09:12] <cirustus> is there a way i can have the ip address auto mounted when i loggin
[09:13] <vivien_m> CptK00k: No, I started from a bare install and them installed the needed packages. I have no display manager.
[09:13] <CptK00k> Vivian
[09:13] <lpapp> dr_willis: sure... but that can be configured how to launch X ...
[09:13] <dr_willis> lpapp:  theres several X init scripts in /etc/ somewhere.
[09:13] <lpapp> dr_willis: let me know one
[09:13] <dr_willis> lpapp:  xorg.conf defines the server layout and other settings. Its possible theres some settings in there that may make it so you dont need those commands
[09:13] <lpapp> dr_willis: yes, there is
[09:13] <dr_willis> lpapp:  im not on a ubuntu box. im on my phone at work. so  i cant.
[09:13] <lpapp> I have checked out the vendor's page
[09:13] <lpapp> but a command run would mean less maintenance
[09:14] <lpapp> even if not the most precise solution for sure.
[09:14] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Ok, but why installing the nvidia drivers again?  Installing from nvidia script must be justified somehow. The Ubuntu package is known to be bad?!
[09:18] <bobweaver> ASKidwai,  not sure to tell you the truth look up that command I would say ?
[09:18]  * ASKidwai was a bit stupid lol
[09:18] <ASKidwai> Yeah, it worked
[09:18] <CptK00k> Why y ask so many questions?
[09:18] <dr_willis> lpapp:  look in /etc/X11 NOTICE A xsessions.d full of scripts? ;)
[09:18] <bobweaver> Great to here ASKidwai
[09:18] <ASKidwai> :D
[09:18] <vmiheet> I have installed llvm package using apt
[09:18] <dr_willis> it pays to expore /etc/
[09:18] <vivien_m> CptK00k: Because I want to understand! possibly to advice people later.
[09:18] <vmiheet> The package has suffixed binaries like llvm-3.0
[09:19] <lizzin> theadmin:  i would like to try xmonad. happen to know of any docs i can read to familiarize myself w/ 12.04 + lightdm  and unity? i really am not sure how all of these are connected. i have xmonad installed and the various install docs say to add 'exec xmonad' to ~/.xinitrc. but that alone is not doing it. what should i look into?
[09:19] <vmiheet> I want to add such suffix in manual build
[09:19] <chu> lizzin: Do you boot to a login screen?
[09:19] <lpapp> dr_willis: I think that is a bad way of doing this
[09:19] <theadmin> lizzin: .xinitrc is onky ran when you do "xinit" manually honestly, if you use a desktop environment you should deal with this desktop environment's startup respectively.
[09:20] <CptK00k> Its because the nvidia drivers are proprietary software and nvidia does things right,
[09:20] <lpapp> dr_willis: somewhat annoying the vendor's configuration util does not have a "store permanently" option.
[09:20] <dr_willis> lpapp:  i think thats the 'designed' way for doing X setup stuff
[09:20] <dr_willis> or the xorg.conf file
[09:20] <lpapp> dr_willis: not according to the vendor's wiki to say the least.
[09:20] <chu> lizzin: There are a few things we can do here: a) Add `xmonad' to the login manager; b) disable the login manager.
[09:20] <vivien_m> CptK00k: nvidia-current-updates will not do the job?
[09:20] <CptK00k> NO!
[09:20] <lpapp> dr_willis: "Of course you can also apply the coordinates statically to the wacom.conf in xorg.conf.d or to the xorg.conf using: "
[09:21] <theadmin> CptK00k: Nvidia doesn't do things right? Tell me about it! ATI drivers require Xorg 1.11, jeebus, took me ages to figure out how to downgrade.
[09:21] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  can wew see a paste of  lspci -nn | grep VGA
[09:21] <bobweaver> we *
[09:21] <lpapp> dr_willis: tbh, /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d did not work for me
[09:21] <lpapp> unsure why
[09:21] <CptK00k> We agree to disagree, i rather have some sort of OpenGl support then them nouveau boyz
[09:21] <vivien_m> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [Quadro NVS 4200M] [10de:1056] (rev a1)
[09:21] <CptK00k> Ghetto Fabolous for sure
[09:21] <vivien_m> bobweaver: just one line
[09:22] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  there is no driver with xorgers or frsh crack for that  ?
[09:22] <bobweaver> vivien_m, do you know what that is ?
[09:22] <vmiheet> I have installed llvm with apt. The llvm binary has suffix like llvm-3.0 I want to add such suffix to the binaries build manually with ./configure && make... Can someone help me?
[09:22] <lpapp> dr_willis: do you know what they mean by the "--xconf" switch ? http://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/xsetwacom/
[09:23] <lpapp> that does not display anything I could just redirect into the xorg.conf...
[09:23] <vivien_m> bobweaver: lspci just shows the card, I believe
[09:23] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[09:23] <CptK00k> lawl i gave you the solution for your problem vivien_m
[09:23] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  Bledding edge one https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[09:23] <CptK00k> what do you want?
[09:23] <CptK00k> more fucks?
[09:23] <jatt> ban
[09:23] <CptK00k> i dont have any
[09:23] <vivien_m> bobweaver: lsmod show nvidia running. nvidia-settings does detect the external monitor
[09:23] <FloodBot1> CptK00k: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:23] <lizzin> chu: i am currently booting to the std 12.04 login screen
[09:24] <chu> lizzin: Yeah, so you ignore the .xinitrc (by going to the login manager).
[09:25] <chu> So, couple of choices: Do you want to *keep* the login manager, and select `xmonad' from there. Or do you want to boot to TTY, login and `xmonad' is launched then?
[09:25] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  can we see a lsomod && apt-cache policy dump nvidia
[09:25] <vmiheet> I have installed llvm with apt. The llvm binary has suffix like llvm-3.0 I want to add such suffix to the binaries build manually with ./configure && make... Can someone help me?
[09:25] <emr> hello, i'm trying add ip address to /etc/network/interfaces, but getting Ignoring unknown interface eth0:1=eth0:1
[09:26] <theadmin> vmiheet: Will need to edit the Makefile and change the compilation output (one way I can think of)
[09:26] <lizzin> chu: preferably the latter. but it would be nice to know how to bring back the login screen at some point if wanted
[09:26] <vmiheet> theadmin: is there a simple option ot pass to ../configure?
[09:27] <chu> lizzin: Alright. Cool beans. Could we continue this in a private query window? (I don't want to clog up the channel)
[09:27] <theadmin> vmiheet: "configure" is a manufacturer-supplied script, and I don't use llvm and never built it from source, so I wouldn't know -- try ./configure --help
[09:27] <vivien_m> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006147/
[09:27] <vivien_m> bobweaver: I added "apt-cache policy dump nvidia-current" too at the end
[09:27] <lizzin> chu: sure
[09:28] <vmiheet> theadmin: Thank you so much, I'll try
[09:28] <bobweaver> vivien_m,  thanks looking now
[09:28] <DarwinSurvivor> vivien_m: c00k has been kicked, he was giving you bad advice (I just got back from a break)
[09:28] <DarwinSurvivor> vivien_m: please do use the drivers that are available in the repositories
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> !nvidia | vivien_m
[09:29] <vivien_m> DarwinSurvivor: Yes, thank you. That was my thinking!
[09:29] <donnaR> hey i just installed ubuntu 11.04 and for some reason my wireless adapter stops transmitting packets, any help?
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> !details | donnaR
[09:29] <donnaR> yeah i just did
[09:30] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: "stops transmitting packets" is a VERY specific conclusion, how did you reach it?
[09:30] <Fuchs> donnaR: details would be: what wireless adapter with what driver, how does that error show itself?
[09:30] <donnaR> run tcpdump
[09:30] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: it's like saying your car's not sending power through the transmission...
[09:30] <donnaR> watchthe packets stop every 2-5mins
[09:31] <donnaR> well i did a quick google search and the problem is common, thought i come here poitn me out a guide
[09:31] <tarzeau_> MacroMan: yeah probably, i'd use the official driver
[09:31] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: do you have any other wireless devices you can test with your router?
[09:34] <donnaR> DarwinSurvivor, well the adapter works fine, i really dont know whats wrong right now i'm using a script that restarts the adapter every 5 min
[09:35] <vivien_m> This is strange that nvidia-settings see the monitor, but not xrandr. :-()
[09:35] <dr_willis> xrandr i think cant be used with nvidia drivers, you use the nvidia tools
[09:36] <dr_willis> but xrandr works with the  opensoured nvidia drivers
[09:36] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Before Ubuntu 12.04, I was using xrandr all time with nvidia proprietary drivers
[09:36] <dr_willis> at least i think thats what ive read i always use the nvidia tools
[09:36] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  i dont recall xrandr ever working for me with nvidia drivers/twinview
[09:36] <dr_willis> unless thers some limited set of functions that work
[09:37] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Maybe I was lucky then. I was working all time perfectly for me.
[09:37] <vivien_m> dr_willis: dual, rotation, etc.
[09:37] <dr_willis> i really havent needed xrandr much,  the rotation i belive does not work if using twinview
[09:37] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Can one write a script with nvidia tools? Like with xrandr?
[09:37] <dr_willis> at least you cant rotate one display, both or nothing
[09:38] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  havent really looked into them in ages.
[09:38] <iceroot_> dr_willis: just fyi if you are interested,  related to my nvidia optimus issue yesterday. nvidia-current is not able to handle optimus-cards so you have to use "bumblebee-nvidia" from a ppa, then everything is working fine
[09:38] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: can you try the adapter in another computer to rule out a hardware problem?
[09:38] <vivien_m> dr_willis: So you have a static configuration?
[09:38] <dr_willis> the nvidia docs on their drivers at one time was very big. :) i read it once years back
[09:38] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  yep. i rarely move/remove monitors.
[09:38] <donnaR> well it works fine under windows
[09:38] <donnaR> so it must be a driver problem
[09:39] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: ok
[09:39] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: what brand + model is it
[09:39] <lpapp> so what is the difference between .xinitrc and .xsessionrc ?
[09:39] <dr_willis> iceroot_:  i dont even recall you mentioniong it was using optimus. :) i stay away from optimus..
[09:39] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Ok. Static configuration is easy. nvidia tools are good for that. But when you can have different external monitors, this is a different story.
[09:40] <dr_willis> lpapp:  i thought .xinitrc has been superceded by .xsession   not seen a .xsessionrc
[09:40] <iceroot_> dr_willis: maybe i forgot to mention it :) optimus is a nice feature i think :)
[09:40] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  twinview changes require a X restart ive seen to work properly. so that may be an issue.
[09:40] <dr_willis> i always use twinview, rarely xinerama
[09:41] <lpapp> dr_willis: Source global environment variables.  This  script  will  source anything  in  $HOME/.xsessionrc  if  the  file  is present.
[09:41] <dr_willis> iceroot_:  the way nvidia has treated the linux world with respect to optimus drivers.. makes me lean towards a laptop with intel video next time
[09:42] <dr_willis> lpapp:  so things like EDITOR=foo go in there?
[09:42] <donnaR> DarwinSurvivor, ah to hell with it i'll put another distro
[09:42] <lpapp> dr_willis: there is even such an xsession stuff in /etc/X11/Xsession.d: 40x11-common_xsessionrc
[09:42] <dr_willis> well sourced means it gets ran. :)
[09:42] <lpapp> dr_willis: nope
[09:42] <lpapp> dr_willis: it is a script
[09:42] <lpapp> so anything that a script can handle
[09:42] <lpapp> including custom command like in my case
[09:42] <Tensotu> how do you untar a .tar.gz file from command line?
[09:42] <iceroot_> dr_willis: the only reason i bought this laptop was diablo 3, so intel VGA is the solution for me :( everything else is of course intel VGA and not nvidia/amd
[09:43] <iceroot_> is not
[09:43] <dr_willis> source fooscript  -: the commands in the script get ran as if you had typed them in  - be sure to not block the exectution of following commands
[09:43] <DarwinSurvivor> donnaR: have you tried the "binary drivers" utility to see if there are any special drivers for it?
[09:43] <dr_willis> iceroot_:  i will pass  on D3. ;)
[09:43] <iceroot_> dr_willis: great misstake :)
[09:43] <lpapp> dr_willis: so you learned today what .xsessionrc is ;)
[09:44] <Tensotu> dr_willis: mooege ftw?
[09:44] <dr_willis> iceroot_:   i will pass on anything by bblizzard for the foreseeable future. due to the companies past practices.
[09:44] <dr_willis> plus i got skyrim to play
[09:44] <vivien_m> Tensotu: tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[09:44] <Tensotu> thank you vivien_m
[09:44] <dr_willis> lpapp:  no idea of anything i would ever need to put in it.
[09:44] <iceroot_> dr_willis: i respekt your opinion, i am doing the same for other company/products
[09:44] <elain> hello,everyone
[09:44] <lpapp> dr_willis: any X configuration...
[09:45] <lpapp> like touch on essentially any device not calibrated well by default ec...
[09:45] <lpapp> etc*, quite wide range tbh ;)
[09:45] <dr_willis> lpapp:  you mean any commands.
[09:45] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Can you rotate in nvidia-settings? I cannot find the option!
[09:45] <lpapp> dr_willis: yes, you can configure X with commands..
[09:45] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  i think you can. ive rarely needed to. and with twinvieew you can rotate both monitors or none.
[09:46] <vivien_m> dr_willis: I deactivated the laptop screen, activate the external monitor. But no rotation option, as far as I can see.
[09:47] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  no idea then. i rarely rotate. ;) except to read comic books
[09:47] <dr_willis> rotateing displays was a big thing for a while it seemed.. but now its not as common. perhaps becuse people are now watching videos instead of reading documents. ;)
[09:47] <vivien_m> dr_willis: Probably Option "RandRRotation" "true" needed in xorg.conf
[09:48] <elain> sd
[09:48] <dr_willis> or playing mame arcade games.. i rotated for that once ages ago
[09:48] <vivien_m> dr_willis: It happens I am still working. ;-) So I prefer the paper shape over the movie shape!
[09:49] <Merwin> Hi. How can I search for all files under a directory which contains some text ? (I can't find how to do this in Nautilus, Ctrl+F only works for file names)
[09:49] <djszapi> dr_willis: .xsessionrc worked oob
[09:49] <dr_willis> vivien_m:  next new feature in monitors will be... Square monitors!
[09:49] <djszapi> dr_willis: do you know if I can remove the top bar on the default 12.04 Ubuntu installation ?
[09:49] <dr_willis> djszapi:  for the login screen or after login?
[09:49] <vivien_m> Where is xorg.conf?
[09:49] <djszapi> I would like to use my application (customer) only with a launcher icon on the desktop
[09:49] <dr_willis> djszapi:  unity needs that too bar
[09:50] <dr_willis> use a differnt window manager if you want more customization
[09:50] <dr_willis> with a siimple panel perhaps
[09:50] <djszapi> dr_willis: after login since it was $HOME/.xsessionrc, but that is fine for now until the vendor replies.
[09:50] <dr_willis> or check out the various koisk type setups
[09:50] <djszapi> you mean "kiosk" ?
[09:51] <djszapi> well, why would Unity need that bar ?
[09:51] <djszapi> if I would not like to see that as a customer ?
[09:51] <dr_willis> djszapi:  now in gdm. there WAS a gdm user that Might have their own .Xsessionrc that would run for gdm when it starts.. but I dont know if lightddm has that. or if the new gdm in 12.04 still has it..
[09:51] <djszapi> I am not saying this should be autohidden, but I would like to be able to turn that off.
[09:51] <dr_willis> djszapi:  the apps menus appear there.
[09:52] <djszapi> dr_willis: I know what that is for ;)
[09:52] <djszapi> dr_willis: I also know what I would like to have.
[09:52] <dr_willis> unity may not be the best window manager for your needs.
[09:52] <djszapi> What is the simplest and fastest way to get a desktop _only_ where I have only one icon for launching the dedicated application.
[09:52] <dr_willis> you could run openbox and a single dock like wbar.
[09:53] <dr_willis> or just set the ap to run and keep reruning when closed
[09:53] <djszapi> dr_willis: that would not hide the top bar.
[09:53] <dr_willis> you dont want to go the 'no window manager route' because that can cause issues with file requestors and other dialogs
[09:54] <dr_willis> djszapi:  you are refering to the unity panel at the top with the cock and stuff? thast would not be there if you are not using unity at all
[09:54] <djszapi> dr_willis: :( I did remove the launcher on the left side. Can that cause any troubles ?
[09:54] <dr_willis> clock ;)
[09:54] <djszapi> :p
[09:54] <dr_willis> djszapi:  the left side panel again. is part of unity
[09:54] <djszapi> dr_willis: ok... rewording: I made that autohide....
[09:55] <dr_willis> use somthing other then unity = no left side or top panels..
[09:55] <dr_willis> unless the wm you are using has somthing similer.
[09:56] <dr_willis> You could use icewm and make its  bottom panel hide, and just have a single app in its menus/quick launch bar
[09:56] <dr_willis> dozens of ways you could do it.
[09:56] <djszapi> dr_willis: again, I did already autohide that.
[09:56] <djszapi> I presume, that can cause no issues.
[09:56] <dr_willis> launcher hideing is common ;)
[09:57] <djszapi> dr_willis: iirc, it was even the default earlier times...
[09:57] <dr_willis> i always set it to nevver hide back then
[09:57] <ggherdov> Hi all. I just "switched user", logged in with the new user, and I have a blank screen. What can I do? apart from don't panicking, which isn't that easy (reboot is not an option). CTRL+ALT+F{1,2,3,...,12} doesn't do anything.
[09:57] <VMERSINTO> what language is k3b written in?
[09:57] <Tensotu> anything wrong with this command? mv -Tf /etc /
[09:57] <djszapi> VMERSINTO: C++/Qt/KDE
[09:58] <VMERSINTO> no way
[09:58] <VMERSINTO> lol
[09:58] <ariana> ggherdov, startx
[09:58] <ariana> :)
[09:58] <dr_willis> Tensotu:  what are you trying to do?
[09:58] <Tensotu> merge that etc with /etc
[09:58] <ggherdov> ariana: if I had a shell. but I don't.
[09:59] <VMERSINTO> djszapi : its a combination of all three?
[09:59] <ggherdov> ariana: blank screen. Keyboard is... ignored.
[09:59] <djszapi> KDE depends on Qt, Qt is a C++ framework...
[09:59] <djszapi> dr_willis: thanks for your help!
[10:00] <dr_willis> djszapi:  simplest way to do your thing may be to use jwm and just define a single launcher app for its panel  you can then autohide
[10:00] <VMERSINTO> djszapi : I am a comp sci student using kubuntu doing c++ right now that why i was kind of shocked when you said that
[10:00] <dr_willis> jwm is also the ligtest wm ive seen
[10:00] <Tensotu> dr_willis: merge that etc with /etc
[10:00] <dr_willis> VMERSINTO:  kde uses QT so whats so shocking
[10:01] <dr_willis> Tensotu:  i alwyas cheat and use 'mc' for tasks like that
[10:01] <VMERSINTO> dr_willis : I havent learned about frameworks yet
[10:01] <Tensotu> mc?
[10:01] <VMERSINTO> dr_willis : I am just seeing where c++ shows up
[10:01] <dr_willis> !info mc
[10:01]  * dr_willis runs away from C++
[10:01] <Tensotu> yea.. no GUI lol
[10:01] <dr_willis> luckly i  dont code.
[10:02] <samuel> i wonder if anyone could help me, i'm looking to debrand unity - i know how to alter the launcher but the top panel is still giving me problems
[10:02] <samuel> every time i'm at the desktop it shows "ubuntu desktop" in the top panel
[10:02] <samuel> i want it to read something else, like just "desktop"
[10:02] <dr_willis> i thought 'ubuntu' was the pcs name/hostname
[10:02] <VMERSINTO> is python more versatile than c++
[10:02] <ggherdov> ariana: EDIT: I was wrong. It is just damn slow. It is swapping like crazy (about 1 GB).
[10:02] <hrw> hi
[10:03] <hrw> does someone produced openvpn client keys using https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html doc?
[10:03] <dr_willis> but python's core is written in.....  so that dosent make sence. ;)
[10:03] <VMERSINTO> dr_willis : I am just confused
[10:04] <dr_willis> VMERSINTO:  ;) yep. i think so.
[10:04] <samuel> unfortunately not, i looked in /etc/hostname and it just reads the name of the pc
[10:04] <samuel> nothing about ubuntu
[10:04] <dr_willis> samuel:  so whats your pcs hostname?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> samuel: that is what the file is for
[10:05] <kouran> hey guys, i am running a 3.2.0-generic ubuntu and need to compile c++ code for our cluster running a 2.6.18 kernel. any1 know how to cross compile this?
[10:05] <samuel> yes, i'm happy with the hostname, i only want to change what it says from the desktop
[10:05] <dr_willis> samuel:  so you rhostname is not 'ubuntu' ?
[10:05] <samuel> yes, thats right
[10:06] <samuel> in 12.04 it appears that when you have no active windows, the top panel reads "ubuntu desktop"
[10:06] <samuel> i want to change it for the purposes of debranding
[10:07] <dr_willis> if nautilus is showing icons on the desktop... i wonder hos you have no active windows... ;)  may have to test thata
[10:07] <samuel> i have previously been using a different distro which came with debranding but it seems that since 11.10 they havnt bothered, which is a problem for me
[10:08] <dr_willis> DeBrandBuntu
[10:08] <samuel> yes i mean apart from the icons, i mean when you first log in, before you have loaded anything it just says "ubuntu desktop" that is obviously a problem if you cannot ship ubuntu vanilla for legal reasons
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> kouran: could grab the liveCD ISO with that  kernel and chroot to it
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> samuel: you can ship vanilla ubuntu
[10:08] <samuel> not with proprietary software preinstalled
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> samuel: thats not vanilla then is it...
[10:09]  * dr_willis head spins..
[10:09] <melvincv> How may I paste long numbers as it is in Libreoffice Calc? Like<PHONE_NUMBER>4829270202
[10:09] <samuel> we have previously been using linux mint, but the changes in their desktop shell means inconsistancies with the interface - unity offers the best for that
[10:09] <samuel> i have tried debrandbuntu but it does not load the 12.04 iso
[10:10]  * dr_willis just made up the name DeBrandbuntu ;)  never  heard of it befor
[10:10] <samuel> besides, this is surely something that is in a config file somewhere, it cant be in compiled code can it??
[10:10] <dr_willis> samuel:  with unity  and gnome - yes it can be compiled in.
[10:10] <kouran> ActionParsnip: my current approach is simmilar, i'm running a vm in background that i use for compilation.  just thought maybe there is a better way in ubuntu.  in gentoo you could have multiple kernel sources alongside each other and tell gcc against which libraries to compile the code. but since those were tool i don't really know how to do that without them.
[10:11] <auronandace> samuel: let me get this straight, you want to remove the branding and make a derivative?
[10:11] <samuel> its more about the desktop shell than it is about the distro, i want to use the unity desktop without falling foul of canonical's no proprietary software rule
[10:12] <auronandace> samuel: what's stopping you?
[10:12] <samuel> "ubuntu desktop"
[10:13] <samuel> apart from that there is no other sign of it, i have even removed the circle of friends logo from the launcher
[10:13] <auronandace> samuel: so am i right in concluding you want to make a derivative of ubuntu?
[10:13] <edwinkcw> Hello, I have a zip file which is zipped under windows. I try unzip it under ubuntu, I found that the file seperator is wrong, which destroy the file hierarchy. How can I solve that?
[10:13] <samuel> derivative distro's are particularily unhelpul when it comes to advice over the configuration of unity, even if its work that they have previously done
[10:13] <dr_willis> edwinkcw:  what file seperator?
[10:14] <auronandace> samuel: so what is the point of debranding unless you want to create a derivative?
[10:14] <edwinkcw> dr_willis: linux uses /, but I view the files in the zip, it uses \
[10:14] <Merwin> How can I search for all files under a directory which contains some text ? (I can't find how to do this in Nautilus, Ctrl+F only works for file names)
[10:14] <samuel> i dont want to change anything about ubuntu except for the branding, but i want to use the unity shell because the interface must be a) free sub menu's and b) work with or without graphics accelleratin and still retain its look
[10:14] <edwinkcw> dr_willis: after unzipping, the file becomes sth like folderA\folderB\a.txt
[10:15] <dr_willis> edwinkcw:  cant say ive ever seen that in a zip. You could always try winzip in wine i guess.
[10:15] <auronandace> samuel: because...
[10:15] <dr_willis> edwinkcw:  or make a vfat filesystem in a file  mount it via loopback and unzip it in there..
[10:15] <dr_willis> edwinkcw:  or try one of the fuse-archive filesystems..
[10:15] <edwinkcw> dr_willis: which is a library called phpexcel, I just download it
[10:16] <dr_willis> i wonder how wine would do it.
[10:16] <samuel> we dont distribute our software like a linux distro, once the alterations are made that make our software workable on the computer, it is kept as an iso or img and then written directly to the hardware and sold like that
[10:16] <dr_willis> im not at home so i cant test any of this edwinkcw  im just thinking of things to try
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> samuel: then that'sfine afaik with the GPL etc
[10:16] <edwinkcw> dr_willis: ok
[10:17] <samuel> when you say derivative, thats like making your own distro, i'm not interested in doing that, i'm only interested in creating a suitable running environment for my software
[10:17] <auronandace> samuel: ah, so you are making a derivative then, since you are redistributing it with hardware
[10:17] <auronandace> samuel: that is beyond the scope of this channel
[10:18] <dr_willis> im not sure why removing ubuntu makes it suddenly ok..
[10:18] <samuel> is there no specific  channel just for unity?
[10:18] <auronandace> dr_willis: i don't think it does
[10:18] <dr_willis> auronandace:  but im not a laywer.. but i bet the people in #GPL may know
[10:18] <samuel> well it means i can use a derivative distro and apply the same fix to it
[10:19] <samuel> the problem is, linux mint have stopped removing the ubuntu branding from unity
[10:19] <VX1> hi, is there some easy way to do multiseat for 12.04 ?
[10:19] <auronandace> samuel: mint doesn't use unity and isn't supported here either
[10:19] <dr_willis> VX1:  from what i hear lightdm supports multiseat. saw some artical onit on  the webupd8 blog site a month or 2 ago
[10:19] <samuel> its in their repo's, and its unmodified
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> samuel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93688/can-i-legally-build-and-sell-desktops-with-ubuntu-pre-installed    I'd contact the OEM services team and check. You may ust be able to fling the proprietary stuff on and be ok.
[10:20] <samuel> its the same unity that you get in ubuntu
[10:20] <auronandace> samuel: then you'd need to ask for help in the mint channel
[10:20] <samuel> i have already tried that
[10:21] <samuel> it seems they dont offer help on all the packages in their own repo's
[10:21] <dr_willis> VX1:  there was some new/cheap multiseat hardware comming out also that aparently works out of the box with redhat, and ubuntu was being worked on next
[10:21] <VX1> well is there an alternative to multiseat ?
[10:21] <dr_willis> VX1:  clarify exactly what you want to do
[10:22] <VX1> well i got a bunch of people coming over tomorrow, so i want to plug a bunch of keyboard/mouse to my comp and have a small lan party
[10:22] <dr_willis> VX1:  no extra monitors?
[10:22] <VX1> ofcourse
[10:23] <dr_willis> you need some way of driveing those monitors..
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> samuel: userful is ok http://userful.com/products/userful-multiseat-linux
[10:24] <dr_willis> were those the guys selling the $50 mmultiseat adaptors..   you just add your own keyboard/mouse ;)
[10:24] <dr_willis> and monitor
[10:24] <sam1967> my alt-tab is no longer working . any ideas ?
[10:25] <dr_willis> i think they even used usb. so you could have a lot on a low end pc
[10:25] <VX1> well i can plug it in directly, gonna get a usb hub though for the k/m so its not too far from the pc
[10:25] <VX1> just want to be able to set it up quickly
[10:25]  * nathan20081 the first time to use irc
[10:27]  * nathan20081 is ubuntu popular in your country?
[10:27] <auronandace> nathan20081: this is a support channel, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:28]  * nathan20081 thanks
[10:28] <auronandace> nathan20081: also irc basics in #freenode (you seem to be using /me a lot)
[10:29] <nathan20081> this is new to me
[10:31] <anggamovic> ?
[10:32] <serdotlin> Hello, I've done compiling kernel 3.4, something went wrong, how do I switch back to kernel 3.2?
[10:40] <branant> serdotlin: Keep compiling until you get it right! ;-)
[10:42] <serdotlin> branant, is there a way to get my default ubuntu kernel 3.2, i know you have to press shift button. But I want kernel 3.2 as a default, please help me!!!
[10:43] <serdotlin> branant: is there a way to get my default ubuntu kernel 3.2, i know you have to press shift button. But I want kernel 3.2 as a default, please help me!!! How  to remove 3.4 from grub menu entry?
[10:43] <branant> serdotlin: Try: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:45] <branant> serdotlin: If I am right, this will get you back the default kernel. Once you are running it, do "sudo apt-get autoremove" and that will remove the other, unused kernels
[10:47] <serdotlin> branant: i'm compiling on my netbook...it was painful...
[10:48] <branant> serdotlin: I know, but it doesn't get any more fun then that!
[10:48] <khmerog_> grrrr...kubuntu doesnt work with my HD 6870 card
[10:49] <khmerog_> depressing..
[10:49] <serdotlin> branant: at login screen, i cannot use the touchpad...after login, resolution was terrible and no mouse cursor and touchpad...
[10:49] <branant> khmerog:  Did you try to install ATI proprietary driver?
[10:50] <branant> serdotlin: Is there a way you can get to the terminal?
[10:51] <khmerog_> no i didnt branant
[10:51] <serdotlin> branant: i'm using kernel 3.2 now...unity is working...sure
[10:51] <khmerog_> do u think that will work?
[10:52] <branant> khmerog_: I am sure it usually works for nVidia cards. I am pretty sure it will work here too
[10:53] <serdotlin> branant: but i have to press shift button to select 3.2...waiting for dist-upgrade now...
[10:53] <serdotlin> branant: which terminal output do you want to see?
[10:53] <branant> serdotlin: uname -a
[10:54] <khmerog_> haha nevermind i figured it out
[10:54] <khmerog_> i just had to change the screen resolution
[10:54] <serdotlin> branant: Linux precise 3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[10:54] <khmerog_> i went to the wrong place to do that
[10:54] <ngomes> hello , im having trouble upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04
[10:55] <branant> serdotlin: ok that's cool, now run sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:55] <ngomes> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[10:55] <ngomes> this is the error
[10:55] <fasta> How do I enable window previews for minimized and non-minimized applications in Unity?
[10:56] <branant> khmerog_: I think you should still install the latest and greatest driver from ATI! ;)
[10:56] <donnaR> hey, does restarting your pc using shutdown cause files to disappear and disk damage?
[10:56] <donnaR> shutdown  the command that is
[10:56] <branant> donnaR: No.
[10:56] <fasta> I enabled the window previews via compiz, but that only shows it for the currently active application (not even applications).
[10:58] <datruth> is there away to enable a proxy system wide?
[10:58] <donnaR> strange it just rm'd my .bashrc twice in a row
[10:58] <donnaR> time for xubuntu i guess
[10:58] <fidel_> donnaR: who is 'it'
[11:00] <serdotlin> branant: look at this screenshot>http://imgur.com/JP8gP
[11:01] <ngomes> hello ?? any help ?
[11:01] <[DeVil-BoY]> tambem quero help
[11:02] <[DeVil-BoY]> ops wrong channel
[11:02] <ngomes> calou br
[11:02] <khmerog_> hi
[11:02] <khmerog_> i am having troubles installing kubuntu
[11:02] <khmerog_> can i ask it here or do they have their own channel?
[11:02] <fidel_> khmerog_: just ask
[11:03] <fidel_> kubuntu is nothing else then ubuntu using KDE ...so go for it ;)
[11:03] <khmerog_> do i make a partition before installing kub?
[11:04] <fidel_> khmerog_: the installer should analyse the situation of your disks and offer several options
[11:04] <khmerog_> when i do, during the installation it wont let me use that partition. instead it gives me a slider to let me choose how much space i want to use for kub BUT it doesnt let me use the drive i just partitioned
[11:04] <fidel_> some tend to be without user-input - some offer manual fiddling
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  yes, use fdisk to that end -- start by typing sudo fdisk -l to get an idea
[11:04] <khmerog_> which is okay but now that drive i just partition is not usuable or i canot even extend it back to the windows 7 drive
[11:05] <legend2440> hello, i am using ubuntu 12.04. can someone tell me where you set behavior for things like when you put in a cd or dvd and you can set options like open or do nothing?
[11:05] <khmerog_> sudo fdisk -1
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l (l stands for list)
[11:06] <fidel_> legend2440: some default applications can be defined using 'System Settings'
[11:06] <jobinar> legend2440,  I use Ubuntu 11.10, i have it in the system settings
[11:06] <legend2440> ok thanks
[11:06] <jobinar> u have an icon there "removable media"
[11:08] <GoodByeMegaton> hello
[11:08] <GoodByeMegaton> where can i adjust a defaults for wpa_supplicant in addiction to network-manager ? i need to set there scan_ssid=1 for all connections
[11:10] <khmerog_> what software do u use to uninstall a linux OS while keeping windows 7? everythime i uninstall (usually just delete the drive linux is on  :P)  i get a boot, grub error
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  use a live cd, it installs the distro neatly alongside your windows installation
[11:11] <fidel_> khmerog_: well basically you wouldnt need grub anymore as well if you jump back to a windows7 only setup
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  to uninstal, just delete the linu parttion
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> linux*
[11:12] <khmerog_> like i said MonkeyDust i have done that many times and each time i get a boot up error MBR or Grub error one of them
[11:12] <serdotlin> somebody show me how to remove kernel 3.4> here the screenshot> http://imgur.com/JP8gP
[11:12] <khmerog_> so there is no app out there that neatly removes any OS
[11:12] <khmerog_> live cd = wubi?
[11:12] <fidel_> khmerog_: in worst case - you'll need to repair the mbr afterwards
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  have you used wubi to install?
[11:13] <fidel_> khmerog_: but it might help to see the actual error you really get
[11:13] <khmerog_> i have used wubi the first time i ever installed Ubuntu yes (11.xx) but ppl here say WUBI is bad bad idea
[11:14] <khmerog_> but now i usually either do the manual installation or use the slider to determine how much space i want to use
[11:14] <khmerog_> i love the slider option but not all distro has it..which is unfortunate
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> khmerog_  wubi is about the worst invention since the atomic bomb, but anyway, to uninstall, just delete it in windows
[11:14] <datruth> Anyone know?
[11:15] <jobinar> datruth, what was ur question? Can u repeat?
[11:15] <khmerog_> lol monkeydust
[11:16] <pfifo> datruth, yes, HTTP_PROXY variable
[11:16] <khmerog_> wubi is very simple to use to install but why is it bad?
[11:16] <khmerog_> or what makes it bad?
[11:16] <jobinar> wubi installs ubuntu "over" windows, that's y i think
[11:17] <pfifo> datruth, but some programs dont respect it (like web browsers)
[11:17] <auronandace> jobinar: inside, not over
[11:17] <datruth> hrmm
[11:17] <Wizard> khmerog_, Wubi creates Ubuntu images as normal files on NTFS.
[11:17] <Wizard> That's why.
[11:17] <datruth> jobinar: wanted to know how to set system wide proxy
[11:17] <datruth> pfifo: where is the HTTP_PROXY var?
[11:17] <jobinar> auronandace, ya, my mistake
[11:17] <Wizard> Wubi is evil ]:->
[11:18] <jobinar> Wizard, does it, really?
[11:18] <jobinar> so how does the execution of programs take place?
[11:18] <jobinar> since linux, i heard, executes only on ext partitions
[11:19] <Wizard> It creates partition image on Windows drive and set's up Grub4DOS.
[11:19] <Wizard> So, The image is being mounted as root during boot, that's all.
[11:19] <Wizard> No magic.
[11:20] <Wizard> But you can't rely on NTFS, since it was implemented mostly by reverse engineering, AFAIK.
[11:20] <kubanc> i have a question about phoca and picasa. Is the authentication key with or without char '#' ?
[11:20] <jobinar> Wizard, but if the files are stored on NTFS partition, how can u execute ur programs on NTFS partition? Does linux support execution on NTFS>
[11:20] <Wizard> jobinar, files aren't stored on NTFS.
[11:21] <Wizard> Whole partition image is.
[11:21] <auronandace> jobinar: wubi makes an image file that is stored on the ntfs partition
[11:21] <Wizard> One, big file with EXT4 or whatever FS.
[11:21] <jobinar> auronandace, then is the image running on NTFS partition?
[11:22] <auronandace> jobinar: think of it as a virtual disk
[11:22] <Wizard> jobinar, However, I still don't recommend using Wubi.
[11:23] <auronandace> jobinar: the image file is stored on ntfs and mounted as a loopback device (afaik)
[11:23] <Wizard> auronandace, Something like that.
[11:23] <shape> Hello, I've just installed a new card ATI HD 3850 and I instaleld the Ati proprietary drivers and the whole system is laggy.  Someone please please help me, I've been trying to fix this for the past 3 hours. :(
[11:23] <jobinar> whats a loopback device, auronandace ?
[11:23] <tuxx-> hi, how can i disable the 'quote-spacebar' windows like behaviour in ubuntu 12.04 ? :)
[11:23] <Wizard> jobinar, a device "emulating" real device.
[11:23] <sentenza> result
[11:23] <auronandace> jobinar: like an iso emulates a cd
[11:23] <lobster3038> hello
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> quote spacebar?
[11:24] <jobinar> then  Wizard is it that u don't recommend emulation?
[11:25] <auronandace> jobinar: wubi is not an emulator
[11:25] <auronandace> jobinar: emulation is better than wubi in my opinion (safer)
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> an iso file is a iso9660 filesystem in a file. ;)  its not emulating a cd.
[11:25] <Wizard> jobinar, No, I recommend normal install, on hard drive partition.
[11:26] <tuxx-> is there any way to disable the feature where you have to hit spacebar before a " shows up in ubuntu 12.04 ? Tried a different keyboard layout, but the feature remains :(
[11:26] <auronandace> jobinar: wubi was always intended as a way to test out ubuntu (never a long term solution)
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> I agree. normal install if you want to use Ubuntu, or test it in virtualbox.
[11:26] <auronandace> Dr_Willis: sorry, bad terminology
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> !info vice
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> :) my favorite emulator is 'vice'
[11:27] <Shaitan|BIG> for emulating what?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Versatile Commodore Emulator - C64, C128, Vic-2-
[11:27] <Wizard> ;]
[11:27] <andyw> hooo the commy
[11:28] <khmerog_> why dont they make the kubuntu installer do partitionauto for u :( like the swap, / , home, /root, etc..
[11:28] <fasta> How do I enable window previews for minimized and non-minimized applications in Unity?
[11:28] <Wizard> Real men use real hardware. Emulation is for.. kids.
[11:28] <Wizard> :>
[11:28] <fasta> I cannot believe it was shipped without this feature/with this bug.
[11:29] <jobinar> Thanks everyone!
[11:29] <fasta> I basically like everything about Unity, except that.
[11:29] <fasta> It completely kills the experience.
[11:29] <erle-> how can i get sound in a application that asks for /dev/dsp?
[11:29] <erle-> aoss does not work
[11:29] <erle-> ubuntu 12.04
[11:29] <Wizard> fasta, Screenshot, or id didn't happen ;]
[11:30] <user2> fasta:  rofl!
[11:30] <fasta> Wizard: I am talking about hover mouse over a launcher icon.
[11:30] <fasta> Wizard: no images are then displayed of all the windows on the current desktop.
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> user2  don't lol and rofl here please
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> i used to enable that on the old gnome i rember fasta  never really noticed it missing. never really cared. ;)
[11:31] <Wizard> fasta, That's right.
[11:31] <fasta> Dr_Willis: if I have 10 terminals open. How do I know which one to pick?
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if that would work with some of the docks if you enabled the feature in compiz ccsm
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  You should know - they are your terminals..
[11:31]  * Dr_Willis uses screen
[11:31] <Wizard> You have to click on the tile, fasta. Than you will see thumbnails.
[11:32] <andyw> no loling or rolfing?
[11:32] <chu> If you have 10 terminals open, you're probably doing something wrong.
[11:32] <tailf> if i want to test out an operating system in a VM, what's the best way to set this from ubuntu?
[11:32] <fasta> Wizard: that's part of the 'it kills the experience'.
[11:32] <Wizard> Ah.
[11:32] <Wizard> Now I get it.
[11:32] <fasta> chu: there are people who manage 90 of them.
[11:32] <chu> There are people doing something wrong.
[11:33] <andyw> chu I often have a load of putty sessions open in windows
[11:33] <fasta> Dr_Willis: Ì also use screen, but how exactly is the work flow then?
[11:33] <Wizard> fasta, Unity-2d has such feature, you click on the icon and it shows thumbnails of this application. Terminal, in your case.
[11:33] <jobinar> Does anyone know what is the maximum no of OS anyone can install on their system, considering he has unlimited disk space?
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  work? whats that? ;P
[11:33] <jobinar> hklj
[11:33] <jobinar> giu
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  oh work.. thats where i sit all day and irc from my cellphone instead of the pc. ;)
[11:34] <halvors> I'm having problems using IPv6 on my computer. It seems to prefer IPv4...
[11:34] <Wizard> jobinar, Infinity.
[11:34] <andyw> jobinar, lots
[11:34] <halvors> Any way to simply enable it?
[11:34] <fasta> Dr_Willis: ... not helpful.
[11:34] <DJones> jobinar: I don't think there is a maximum, it comes down to disk space and being able to create enough partitions
[11:34] <halvors> Why isn't IPv6 enabled by default.
[11:34] <halvors> ?
[11:34] <andyw> because so few places have support for it yet
[11:34] <krababbel> halvors: just enable it
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> fasta:   i doubt if its going to be enablable in unity. the feature was rather buggy in  the old gnome.  I mentioned trying some of the docks out that Might emulate the old gnome panel enough where it might work with them
[11:34] <halvors> How? :)
[11:34] <jobinar> ok
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> most guides are how to disable ipv6 :)
[11:35] <halvors> krababbel: How do i enable it?
[11:35] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and whenever I open Nautalis via the GUI it takes anywhere between 5-10s to open, and the "Opening <dir name>" can hang for up to a little under a minute. When done through the terminal, it opens fine. Anybody know how to fix this? I'm using GNOME Classic.
[11:35] <andyw> classic a classy man
[11:36] <halvors> Dr_Willis: I know. But i want to use IPv6 since i actually have IPv6 connectivity.
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> halvors  it isnt enabled, to avoid a lot of people asking how to disable it
[11:36] <DeltaHeavy> halvors: You want to use IPv6 internally?
[11:36] <andyw> halvors, are you chatting from the future?
[11:36] <khmerog_> nope im having troubles..the best way that worked for me was to partition the drive on windows first and then install kubuntu. anyone else do it this way?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> halvors:  wow. :) thats like having a color printer back in the 1960s ;)
[11:36] <halvors> No gloablly.
[11:36] <halvors> Well, it's 6in4 on my Cisco router :P
[11:36] <DeltaHeavy> khmerog_: No, that way sounds terrible lol
[11:37] <khmerog_> hmm
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> halvors:  check the network manager settings? if it was anywhere. id think it would be there
[11:37] <andyw> halvors, windows mangles partitions
[11:37] <krababbel> it does not!
[11:37] <khmerog_> deltaheavy because if i dont do it that wy. kubuntu will install over my windows 7
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> halvors:  theres a ipv6 settings tab in network manager.
[11:37] <DeltaHeavy> khmerog_: The NTFS drivers for Linux is terrible compared to naitive support
[11:38] <halvors> Dr_Willis: But there is no way to enable it...
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> khmerog_:  i use a gparted live cd and  resize and leave part of the HD unallocated for the linux installer to partion. or i just make the partions from gparted and tell the installer exactly where to install to.
[11:38] <szal> DeltaHeavy: still better than Ext* drivers for Windows
[11:38] <DeltaHeavy> khmerog_: Not if you do it properly. Shrink your NTFS partition in Windows then either set your partition table up manually for *buntu or select "Use exisitng free space"
[11:38] <DeltaHeavy> szal: Agree'd
[11:38] <halvors> My problem is that Ubuntu prefer IPv4 over IPv6, wich makes IPv6 pointless.
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> halvors:  it seems to be enabled here. set to automatic. buti got  no ipv6 router/features to give out any (that i know of)
[11:39] <andyw> Dr_Willis, you use gparted to shrink ntfs FSes?
[11:39] <DeltaHeavy> halvors: IPv6 is meant to be used externally. Ubuntu really wasn't meant to be much more than a desktop OS.
[11:39] <halvors> IPv6 should be enabled by default after World IPv6 Launch.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> andyw:  it can do it. i do find windows7 can resize its own NTFS MUCH faster then gparted does
[11:40] <DeltaHeavy> halvors: Plain false, IPv4 will be used internally for a long time to come. IPv6 is mainly for the actual internet, not your intranet.
[11:40] <andyw> last time i used gparted to resize a NTFS FS a train wreak doesn’t being to descibe the outcome
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> andyw:  and windows 7 can resize the partion while in use.. so i can play farmville  and resize. :) w
[11:40] <halvors> But how to enable it?
[11:40] <halvors> Even Windows 7 prefer IPv6...
[11:40] <DeltaHeavy> Yeah, if you're going to resize a propriary file system use it's proprietary tool to do so for best results
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> andyw:  the reccomended  routine is to scandisk/defrag then use gparted, then rescandisk i belive
[11:41] <andyw> Dr_Willis, really? when did they bring that in. Can it do the system volume?
[11:41] <krababbel> i'd never use gparted for ntfs
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> andyw:  i resized my main partion on a new windows box to install linux while in use. so yes.
[11:41] <krababbel> andyw: system volume resize while oneline works, on win7
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> andyw:  befor win7 - i dont think it could.
[11:41] <DeltaHeavy> halvors: You sure? I doubt it, I've only ever used IPv4 on Windows 7. Also try looking around in /etc/network/ for a configuration file.
[11:41] <melvincv> When the internet connection fails, the ssh session just gets stuck, I do not get my terminal prompt back. Why?
[11:42] <andyw> Thats pretty cool I have done live extensions in windows server but didnt know win7 can shrink the system vol live
[11:42] <DeltaHeavy> melvincv: Try an escape key like "Ctrl + C" or "Ctrl + Z"
[11:43] <melvincv> DeltaHeavy: no go
[11:43] <krababbel> andyw: it can, though windows has no tools to compact the files to get more space
[11:43] <happy> hi i am so happy whit ubuntu 12.04 , i want to know more this OS :)
[11:43] <krababbel> but there are trial versions of defragmenters to do that
[11:43] <andyw> there is a free one as well
[11:43] <andyw> forget the name
[11:44] <c0deMaster> how to detect and block port scanning?
[11:44] <krababbel> I used perfect disk trial
[11:44] <Onkeltem> Would you recommend an app for monitoring traffic consumption by applications?
[11:44] <andyw> c0deMaster,  depends on how your connected to the internet
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> compact the files?  you mean defrag the hd?
[11:45] <DeltaHeavy> c0deMaster: That's more a question for #networking or #security
[11:45] <rildo> Hi ! I would like to talk about shell scripts. What is the channel ?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> rildo  try #bash
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> c0deMaster:  theres services like fail2ban or  others.. but if you have no services listening.. then the scans see nothing.. so they move on.
[11:45] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and whenever I open Nautalis via the GUI it takes anywhere between 5-10s to open, and the "Opening <dir name>" can hang for up to a little under a minute. When done through the terminal, it opens fine. Anybody know how to fix this? I'm using GNOME Classic.
[11:46] <andyw> so is this just a gen chat channel then?
[11:46] <happy> is there an internet maltiplayer in ubuntu
[11:46] <happy> ?
[11:46] <rildo> Thanks MonkeyDust
[11:46] <van9ogh> I don't like unity
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> van9ogh:  so use some of the other desktops
[11:46] <DeltaHeavy> happy: Gaming in Linux is pretty much non-existant compared to Windows. Why I still run Windows mainly.
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> van9ogh  i don't like/use unity
[11:47] <DeltaHeavy> andyw: Support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is gen chat
[11:47] <van9ogh> yes,Mint
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> van9ogh  mint is not supported here
[11:47] <andyw> DeltaHeavy, cool just clarifying
[11:47] <happy> i do not understand what you mean ?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> van9ogh:  theres   kde, gnome-shell, lxde, xfce, and others..
[11:47] <happy> ?
[11:47] <c0deMaster> andyw, for a vps?
[11:47] <auronandace> van9ogh: mint is a distribution, not a desktop
[11:47] <van9ogh> so,meta
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> happy  start here http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/games.html
[11:49] <DeltaHeavy> Who the hell puts a dir like /html/ on their website lol
[11:50] <happy> first of first [[ I NEED TO MAKE MY NAME IN THIS CHAT SHOW TO ME AS A DEFRENT COLOUR]]
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> happy:  no you dont.. its OUR clients that color the nicks.. not yours
[11:50] <bazhang> happy, lose the caps
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> happy:  so check your irc client docs if you cant see your own nick. ;)
[11:51] <happy> okay sorry
[11:51] <bazhang> happy, which irc client
[11:51] <happy> i am so new in this
[11:51] <bazhang> the gateway
[11:52] <bazhang> happy, you might ask in #freenode about the webchat client
[11:52] <DeltaHeavy> happy: Usually if you go to Edit --> Preferences it'll be somewhere there.
[11:52] <happy> thanks :)
[11:53] <DeltaHeavy> I have no idea what client you're using but it's the equivlent to 'Tools --> Options' in Windows.
[11:54] <happy> CTCP ?
[11:54] <happy> what is CTCP ?
[11:55] <bazhang> happy, to check your version irc client ctcp version
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> happy:  time to read up some irc basics sites i belive. ;)
[11:56] <happy> Dr_Willis where would i find that ??
[11:56] <DeltaHeavy> happy: The Googler
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> the Internetz! ;)
[11:57] <van9ogh> 有人会说中文吗
[11:57] <bazhang> van9ogh, #ubuntu-cn
[11:57] <DeltaHeavy> happy: Honestly I wouldn't be too concerned with learning IRC basics other than: 1) Registering   2) Getting around
[11:57] <van9ogh> understand
[11:57] <van9ogh> thx!
[11:58] <shape> Hello, I installed an ATI card and installed the proprietary drivers, and the mouse is laggy and the desktop is laggy as well. Even youtube videos. I searched online with no success. Any suggestions?
[11:58] <happy> i am learning now
[11:58] <happy> i will be back  :)
[11:59] <DeltaHeavy> shape: ATI isn't supported very well in Linux at all. There may not be a fix at all but I'm not certain.
[11:59] <shape> DeltaHeavy, damn, I should've know before I bought it then :(
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> happy  the best way to learn, is by just using it, like we all did and do
[12:01] <shape> DeltaHeavy, should I install the drivers from their site? I heard they can break the system, on multiple forums.
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> it also depends on how new the ati card and how old .:)
[12:01] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Is it a Linux driver?
[12:01] <shape> DeltaHeavy, yes
[12:01] <happy> :( how to change the input languch to arabic in ubuntu ??
[12:02] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Is it reported to break on *buntu or Debian related distros, or distros like Fedora because I know Fedora has major issues with that.
[12:02] <shape> DeltaHeavy, actually on their website, there is none!
[12:02] <DeltaHeavy> shape: What about the stuff you read?
[12:03] <shape> DeltaHeavy, I would have to dig it up again. Also I can;t even install the post-release drivers even!. I get an error from jockey.
[12:05] <shape> DeltaHeavy, would it matter if I had an nvidia card before, and purged the nvidia-current. After which I installed the card? Would it get fixed if I format everything and do a clean install?
[12:05] <DeltaHeavy> shape: What's the error?
[12:05] <shape> DeltaHeavy, one sec.
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> shape:  if you have a spare flash drive you could do a quick instal to it. and try the ati drivers from a new install as a test
[12:05] <DeltaHeavy> shape: A reinstall would fix that but it's probably not needed. I'm not too sure about that though.
[12:06] <happy> :( how to change the input languch to arabic in ubuntu
[12:06] <DeltaHeavy> shape: You could also Google your exact card and the vesion of Ubuntu you're using like this '"<card>" "Ubuntu 12.04"'
[12:06] <shape> Dr_willis: I thought of that, but then I am too noob to know how to delete from Grub the Ubuntu option that would be on the flash after I remove the flash
[12:07] <DeltaHeavy> happy: A lot of these questions can be awnsered very easily with a simple Google query. If you still can't find any awnsers, then ask here. I'd awnser you now but I'd have to Google it.
[12:07] <shape> DeltaHeavy, what would I gain from doing that? you mean forum threads about peopel having problems?
[12:07] <DeltaHeavy> shape: If there were issues with that card running with your version of Ubuntu it'll pop up.
[12:08] <shape> DeltaHeavy, yeah I actually searched for the issues on google, and tried multiple fixes, even changing xorg.conf, but with no luck.
[12:09] <DeltaHeavy> shape: http://xkcd.com/963/
[12:09] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Could people get it working without performing some sort of rediculous amount of work?
[12:10] <khmerog> YAY!! i succesfully installed Kubuntu alongisde Windows 7...i had to partition the drive first in windows and then format it (sda3) then install kubuntu
[12:10] <manixrock> hey, I'm trying to make a linux image using buildroot-2012.05 (latest version right now), but when I run "make busybox-menuconfig" I get "No rule to make target"
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> shape:  it would have its own grub on the usb
[12:10] <DeltaHeavy> khmerog: Format it with Windows in NTFS or in the Kubuntu installer?
[12:11] <manixrock> more specifically I get: make: *** No rule to make target `busybox-menuconfig'.  Stop.
[12:11] <shape> DeltaHeavy, no, from what Ive seen. Ive searched mainly regarding mouse lag and laggy windows which gave a lot of results
[12:11] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: When executing this command what's your present working directory? Have you tried running './configure'?
[12:11] <khmerog> format it with windows in the disk managment
[12:11] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Then that's probably just an issue.
[12:11] <shape> Dr_Willis, So if I have running Ubuntu with Grub on my PC, the Ubuntu that I install on the flashdrive, will install grub on the flash, and once I remove the flash, the second grub wil lbe gone, correct?
[12:11] <khmerog> this was the weirdest linux install i have ever done... ubuntu 1204 is easy, joliOS, Linux Mint, Lubuntu
[12:12] <DeltaHeavy> khmerog: I highly advise against that but if it's working for you enjoy. Don't be surprized if you see the odd corrupted file here and there.
[12:12] <khmerog> but kubuntu not very simple
[12:12] <NCS_One> hi
[12:12] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: I get: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[12:12] <shape> DeltaHeavy, so, from that comic, the more you open xorg.conf, the better?
[12:12] <manixrock> the current directory is the buildroot folder
[12:12] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: What's your present working directory when executing those commands.
[12:12] <DeltaHeavy> shape: The worse
[12:12] <khmerog> well i will use kubuntu for web browsing since my HD 6870 always crashes in windows 7 while watching windows or a website that uses flash
[12:12] <lpapp> Dr_Willis: hm... what is the default "Standard" user ?
[12:12] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: the current directory is the buildroot folder
[12:12] <khmerog> any downloads i do i will save it onto the Windows 7 drive
[12:13] <lpapp> on an Ubuntu 12.04 installation ?
[12:13] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: What's the output of 'pwd'
[12:13] <shape> DeltaHeavy, oh sorry, yes, that's right
[12:13] <NCS_One> I'm doing a script to open a couple of apps and would like to know how can I say to open an app on a different desk?
[12:13] <lpapp> the problem is that my program works, if I run that from command line, but not from the desktop with a launcher icon due to permission issues....
[12:13] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: /home/myusername/Downloads/buildroot-2012.02
[12:13] <DeltaHeavy> shape: It's not safe to say yet, but it wouldn't be surprizing if you're SOL
[12:14] <shape> DeltaHeavy, what's "SOL"
[12:14] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: Can you pastebin the output of 'ls -la'
[12:14] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Shit Out of Luck
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> lpapp:  im not sure what you mean.
[12:15] <DeltaHeavy> lpapp: When you run the program in terminal are you using 'sudo'?
[12:15] <lpapp> Dr_Willis: there is an app requiring access to the serial port, so my package's postinst script puts that user into the "dialout" group
[12:15] <shape> DeltaHeavy, the thing is, ATI has the best AGP cards, that would allow me to run hardware acceleration on this old computer (1.6Ghz sempron), So I can watch 1080p movies. :(
[12:15] <lpapp> DeltaHeavy: nope
[12:15] <shape> Dr_Willis, thanks for the suggestion btw! I will probably end up doing the USB thing
[12:15] <DeltaHeavy> lpapp: Are you framiliar with 'chmod'?
[12:15] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: here - http://pastebin.com/BYpiZ5vX
[12:16] <DeltaHeavy> shape: They also have terrible linux support, and terrible drivers for Windows to begin with.
[12:16] <lpapp> DeltaHeavy: yes, I used that 15 years ago first
[12:16] <lpapp> what has this to do with chmod ?
[12:16] <orgain> moin
[12:16] <shape> DeltaHeavy, yeah, yet there are users who use them. And I thought I would take the chance.
[12:17] <DeltaHeavy> lpapp: If it's a premissions issue are you sure the files you're trying to execute have proper premissions? You probably already checked that though so idk.
[12:17] <lpapp> DeltaHeavy: really no clue what you mean
[12:17] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: I downloaded those files as an archive from here: http://buildroot.uclibc.org/download.html
[12:17] <melvincv> shape: how about the open source ATI driver that's installed by default? What issues does it have?
[12:17] <lpapp> the process does have access to stuff, if it is run with the user created during the installation.
[12:17] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: the link "buildroot-2012.02.tar.gz "
[12:17] <NCS_One> I'm doing a script to open a couple of apps and would like to know how can I say to open an app on a different desk?
[12:18] <shape> melvincv, no issues, but no hardware acceleration. :(
[12:18] <delete> всем привет
[12:18] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: Try './Config.in' './Makefile' and if that doesn't work pastebin 'ls -la configs' or just mess around in there. If there's no target you probably need to run some sort of shell script in here
[12:18] <DeltaHeavy> delete: This is an english channel only.
[12:18] <delete> ok
[12:19] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: the tutorial on this page - http://buildroot.uclibc.org/buildroot.html#custom_busybox - says to run "make busybox-menuconfig"
[12:19] <delete> we are russian cannel
[12:19] <DJones> !ru | delete If you want a russion channel, there is this
[12:19] <NewWorld> NCS_One:  which window manager are you using?
[12:19] <NCS_One> NewWorld: gnome
[12:19] <NewWorld> NCS_One:  ok then sorry I don't know
[12:20] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: And it's saying there's no target? Try going into the root directory of the source files (the folder the .tar.gz gave you) and just run 'make'.
[12:20] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: when I run "sudo ./Config.in" I get: "sudo: ./Config.in: command not found"
[12:20] <ngomes> whitecrow is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[12:20] <ngomes> i got this error after upgrade to 12.04
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> so whitecrow was your main admin user?
[12:21] <shape> DeltaHeavy, hey, thanks for your help btw. I really appreciate it. I will end up installing on the USB, and then probably if it doesn't work, just end up using the opensource drivers. Because the card is good. I can play 1080p in windows with this old processor, so I can still watch movies.
[12:21] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: If you're going to use sudo don't include the './'
[12:21] <ngomes> looks like i've writen sudoers conf from maintainer instead of maintain the old one
[12:21] <ngomes> Dr_Willis, yes
[12:21] <melvincv> How come 'no hardware acceleration' for the ATI radeon open source driver. But I get Ubuntu 3D Unity with it.
[12:21] <DeltaHeavy> shape: Not a problem
[12:22] <ngomes> Dr_Willis, any way to recover , this is a VPS
[12:22] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: when I run "sudo Config.in" I get: "sudo: Config.in: command not found"
[12:22] <melvincv> Where to get info on how popular Ubuntu is atm? Like no. of users?
[12:22] <ngomes> i've read some instructions but looks to be for local computer
[12:23] <KingKatari> is there any other place in ubuntu server 12.04 LTS version that controls the total number of connections into a server besides net.core.somaxconn??????????
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> ngomes:  ive never used a VPS so no idea
[12:24] <lpapp> shouldn't the desktop shortcut run the stuff at the Exec line as the currently logged in user ? If yes, Ubuntu messes up stuff since I only created one account while installing this...
[12:24] <oneksen> hellp
[12:24] <manixrock> DeltaHeavy: running "make" in the buildroot directory throws these errors - http://pastebin.com/09pg1JTR
[12:24] <ngomes> melvincv, distrowatch.com  , maybe
[12:24] <lpapp> yeah, no other users in /home either, just the lost+found folder.
[12:25] <happy> sorry, if i didnt answer anyone, but i really cannt seperate between the members by any colour
[12:25] <ikonia> manixrock: you're missing dependencies
[12:25] <manixrock> ikonia: how do I know which to install?
[12:25] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: Ok now we're getting somewhere. Run 'sudo apt-get install ncurses-devel'
[12:25] <ikonia> manixrock: meet the depencencies
[12:25] <ikonia> manixrock: why are you building this from source ?
[12:25] <manixrock> ok installing now
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> lpapp:  try running 'xterm' and see what user it is.
[12:26] <manixrock> ikonia: I want to make a tiny linux image
[12:26] <happy> and i thing i am using the online freenode , i mean not an installed software
[12:26] <manixrock> ikonia: am I doing it wrong?
[12:26] <ikonia> manixrock: what do you mean, tiny linux image ?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> lpapp:  exactly how are you running this stuff?
[12:26] <lpapp> Dr_Willis: in gnome-terminal
[12:26] <lpapp> and run
[12:27] <ikonia> KingKatari: please don't cross-post your questions between here and #ubuntu-server.
[12:27] <lpapp> xterm exactly runs the same obviously as gnome-terminal
[12:27] <lpapp> I do not really see the problem
[12:27] <DeltaHeavy> manixrock: Do you just want this installed or do you want to compile it from source?
[12:27] <KingKatari> k
[12:27] <manixrock> ikonia: I want to recreate the linux image used in the Javascript PC Emulator - http://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> lpapp:   You run an app from gnome-terminal and it changes users? so if you run xterm from gnome-terminal its now running as what user?
[12:28] <ikonia> manixrock: ok, so this really isn't anything to do with ubuntu
[12:28] <lpapp> Dr_Willis: I think you are overcomplicating this
[12:28] <manixrock> ikonia: I want to re-create (and then modify) this: http://bellard.org/jslinux/vmlinux-2.6.20.bin
[12:28] <lpapp> there is only one user created, stop.
[12:28] <ikonia> manixrock: yeah, I've just read the URL, you're basically creating a linux boot envionment based on the jslinux source/provided data
[12:29] <manixrock> ikonia: yes. am I in the wrong chat room for this?
[12:29] <ikonia> manixrock: yeah, I'd try the guys who build jslinux
[12:29] <ikonia> manixrock: they should be able to walk through issues/problems/questions with you
[12:30] <manixrock> ikonia: it's just a standard busybox built with buildroot as far as I can tell
[12:30] <manixrock> it shouldn't have anything to do with the fact that it's used by the Js emulator
[12:31] <ikonia> manixrock: looks like it sure
[12:31] <manixrock> so basically I just want to learn how to use the buildroot thing
[12:31] <ikonia> manixrock: but that's also nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:31] <lpapp> any ideas guys ?
[12:31] <manixrock> ikonia: where should I ask then?
[12:31] <ikonia> manixrock: no idea, the busy box guys ?
[12:32] <manixrock> doesn't anyone here know how to build a binary linux image?
[12:32] <ikonia> manixrock: sure, but it's an ubuntu support channel,
[12:33] <ikonia> manixrock: hence why trying the busybox guys should be a better approach
[12:33] <manixrock> ikonia: how do I find those guys? :)
[12:33] <ikonia> manixrock: read their website for their contact/support information
[12:33] <manixrock> ok
[12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, how many mount points can Ubuntu have? Like sda, sdb....sdaa...sdaaa, etc
[12:34] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: mount points or partitions
[12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> mount points
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> for external usb devices, for example
[12:35] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: pretty much as many as you want, (I'm sure there is a limit, but it's something crazy like 25,0000)
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  those are device names...
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> WhereIsMySpoon:   and once ya get past sdz it goes to sdaa and sdab i belive ive read somewhere
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon>  yes i know how it works
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> i just wanted to know if there was a limit
[12:36] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: a limit you'll never hit
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> ive seen them at least 8+ characters..
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> mccblk0p#  for sd cards
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, ok
[12:36] <DeltaHeavy> WhereIsMySpoon: There isn't as far as I know. Winblows is the only OS I know if with such a stupid restriction.
[12:36] <ikonia> ooh wait, you mean a limit on the size of the label, or a limit on the number of number of mounts
[12:36] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: it's called "Windows" - please use the proper name
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, well, surely the latter would stem from the former
[12:37] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: no
[12:37] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: no, how long a string is, has nothing to do with how many mount points
[12:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> otherwise you'd get multiple mounts on the same label
[12:37] <DeltaHeavy> Wintendo, Winblow, Internet Exploder
[12:37] <sam1967> my alt-tab is no longer working . any ideas ?
[12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, so what would happen when you reach max string size
[12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> and you tried to mount
[12:38] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: it would just refuse with an error saying "mountpoint name too long" or "volume label too long" something like that
[12:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, ok then
[12:38] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: basically the mount point is the limit of the file/directory name size
[12:38] <ikonia> I think that's 250 chars or something like that
[12:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, does that include the "/media/" before it ?
[12:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> or wherever you mounted it
[12:39] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: no, that would be a path, not a string
[12:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> eh, i didnt mean media
[12:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> i meant /dev/
[12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> but whatever
[12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, so only the "sdxxxx" are counted from the path
[12:40] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: /dev is a device name, not a mount point or a volume label
[12:40] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: you don't need to worry about /dev devices
[12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
[12:40] <khmerog> does fedora use the same programs/software packages as ubuntu and linux mint?
[12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, /dev/sd<whatever> is wha ti was talking about
[12:41] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: yes, you don't need to worry about that, it's managed by udev
[12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> if there was a limit to those labels
[12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, ? surely there must be a limit on that too
[12:41] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: they are not labels, they are device file and outside your control
[12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> ohh
[12:41] <ikonia> khmerog: core components, yes, put together different/versioned different, sure
[12:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok then
[12:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> sorry for the confusion
[12:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> and thanks
[12:42] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: not a problem, it can be confusing
[12:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia,  :D
[12:42] <khmerog> i see
[12:43] <khmerog> basicallt ubuntu, kubuntu, linux mint are all the same but they just look different correct?
[12:43] <pungi-man> with a little difference btw ubuntu and linux mint
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> khmerog:  linux is all about layers :) think of it as layers of legos forming a house. the layers of the foundation may be the same  or close to the same, but the upper layers can be very differnt.
[12:44] <ikonia> khmerog: bottom line -yes, different desktops, it's more complex but that's the bottom line of it
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> the Desktop/Gui is just one of the many layers the user sees..  like the roof and sideing. ;P
[12:45] <khmerog> ahhh!! very nice explanation/example
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> and Ogres are Like Onions...
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> but the cake is a lie.
[12:45]  * Dr_Willis shuts up now.
[12:45] <NewWorld> xD
[12:46] <khmerog> ive been using linux for about 1 year but never got the technical part of it..i just like the visuals or maybe im just bored of windows
[12:46] <khmerog> how about fedora?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> technically the kernel is 'linux' thats like the big green lego you stick all the others onto
[12:46] <khmerog> i see that fedora also has a KDE version
[12:46] <ikonia> khmerog: what about it ?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> kernel is the kernel.. rest of layers are similer or differnt depending on the disrto. ;)
[12:47] <khmerog> fedora and ubuntu/mint uses the same software managers
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> khmerog:  last i looked.. mint uses apt-get/apt just like all deb based  disrtos
[12:47] <khmerog> or do they have their own softwares..example K3B burn is it only for ubuntu or is there veryso
[12:47] <khmerog> ok
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> fedora uses RPM  - whish is very differnt
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> same software - differnt package managers...
[12:48] <khmerog> what really confused me is if i want to get the latest release of a software..i go to there website. but there is like 5 different linux versions
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> khmerog:  stick with the package manager tools..  going to a 'web site' to get software is a windows-type-mindset
[12:49] <NewWorld> khmerog:  Same program and same version of it, just different packages made for different package managers
[12:49] <escott> khmerog, for ubuntu/mint/debian use apt. for redhat/suse use yum but dont download from the web
[12:49] <khmerog> some pages like http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html  is pretty simple but there are others that dont list ubuntu
[12:50] <NewWorld> khmerog:  If it lists others but not Ubuntu, look for a .deb package. Ubuntu can install that
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> sometimes. it can at least. ;)
[12:52] <khmerog> newworld and what app do i use to install the .deb files?
[12:52] <rbrooks> there is many different brands/types of linux...
[12:52] <khmerog> im not good at using terminal yet
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> rbrooks:  differnt 'disrtbutions'
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> !disrto
[12:52] <khmerog> !distros
[12:53] <rbrooks> ok right, but you just have to try some to see
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> distrowatch web site has a decent selection ;)
[12:53] <dkmt> hi~~
[12:54] <pwasek> Does 12.04 have a bug with the smbldap tools.  I notice the configure.pl file is not in the usr/share/docs/smbldap-tools
[12:54] <pwasek> is there a fix for this
[12:54] <pwasek> ?
[12:55] <rbrooks> try them all and download kubuntu, fedora, etc...
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> 'Disrto Of the Month Club'
[12:55] <rbrooks> ooo let me go check that site again
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> then come back to ubuntu... ;)
[12:56] <tuxx-> hi guys, anyone know how i can disable the feature where i have to press spacebar after i've hit a ' or " key before the character actually shows up? :P
[12:56] <rbrooks> linux mint etc...
[12:56] <Sidewinder> Yes, always retutn to ubuntu; it's the friendliest. :)
[12:56] <rbrooks> yes then always back to ubuntu
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> tuxx-:  sounds like some sort of extended character feture. like to make a fancy spanish e with marks bove ie.
[12:57] <tuxx-> Dr_Willis: yeah it does, but i hate it.
[12:57] <tuxx-> Dr_Willis: tried a different keyboard layout (english (USA)), didnt work though
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Im on american english. :) so i dont even thin i have it.
[12:57] <khmerog> so if im using VLC player on kubuntu..and foiund a bug on vlc, well that same bug be on ubuntu and linux mint?
[12:58] <khmerog> and as a developer to fix that bug do they have to fix it for all distros?
[12:58] <khmerog> basically im trying to see if their is a linux os more stable than the other
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> khmerog:   they fix their code.. disrto makers repackage it.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> updates come to us via package manager..
[12:59] <Sidewinder> khmerog, You can chack launchpad.ore to either report the bug or see if there's a work-around/fix for it.
[12:59] <Sidewinder> check, even.
[12:59] <numbie> has anyone compiled zygrib?
[12:59] <Sidewinder> org, even.;; Early still.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> !info zygrib
[13:00] <khmerog> :)
[13:01] <khmerog> distrowatch is a great website :D
[13:01] <numbie> im using lucid and there is only 3.5 , it doesn't fetch the map
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> find a ppa. or use the source i guess.
[13:02] <numbie> i tried to compile but it didnt work
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> first choice would be to find a ppa. ;)
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> but the factits in the repos can make it easier to compile.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get build-deps packagename     'should' pull in all needed dev packages to compile it.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> or was it build-dep
[13:04] <escott> tuxx-, sounds like you have a compose key permanently enabled somehow
[13:04] <Imgdl> Any alternative to BulkImageDownloader,I read soemthing about wget and -l3 but Im totally new to wget usage
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> wget has a few gui front ends also. :)
[13:05] <Imgdl> Hmm google time :D
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search wget
[13:07] <paul83> I noticed that the smbldaptools is missing the configure.pl file in the usr/share/doc/smbldap-tools is this is know bug
[13:07] <Imgdl> Dr_Willis only thing I see that looks like app I need it pwget
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> i use the command line.. rarely for wget
[13:09] <Imgdl> http://www.jensroesner.de/wgetgui/#install   This is just for Windows right? :/
[13:12] <jhona> hola?
[13:14] <ulidtko> hey guys, skype is coredumping on my system, any help?
[13:14] <escott> ulidtko, its closed source there probably isn't much anyone can do
[13:14] <ulidtko> it worked before the upgrade to 12.04
[13:15] <ulidtko> escott: yeah, i understand that
[13:16] <ulidtko> but from various activity in the community (like http://askubuntu.com/q/139279/9061 ) I conclude that it's not a generic problem with skype on ubuntu, but with specifically my system
[13:16] <ulidtko> so i wonder how could i solve that
[13:17] <compdoc> have to go thru the logs and see why how the system sees your devices
[13:18] <numbie> i just cant compile it :/
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> numbie:  and what error do you get when you try?
[13:19] <Imgdl> Any tips how to properly set up wget to use "deeper" search egz. follow links to gallery and dl pics from them
[13:20] <numbie> Dr_Willis,  alot
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Imgdl:  you may want to try some website-mirroring type tool like httrack (i think)
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> !info httrack
[13:20] <numbie> Dr_Willis,  how do i qmake ?
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> !info qmake
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> No idea on qmake. been ages since id  more then just ./configure   make   sudo make install
[13:21] <Imgdl> Dr_Willis that seems awesome,I just hope its all legal :D
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> go copy google to your pc...
[13:24] <Imgdl> duckduckgo seems more fun
[13:25] <Sidewinder> numbie, You might also want to look at this (although it sounds like you have not gotten that far): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[13:26] <numbie> it wont work
[13:26] <UnixLover> Hello
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> you could pastebin the errors and session so we can see numbie  or check the apps homepage for compile instructions
[13:26] <numbie> there isnt really any instructions
[13:26] <numbie> they say i shall qmake
[13:27] <numbie> but it wont work
[13:29] <OerHeks> numbie there should be a read.me in the source
[13:29] <Imgdl> Dr_Willis Thank you httrack is doing what I need,now time to google best settings for my needs. :)
[13:30] <ulidtko> okay, so the problem with Skype was in my handwritten Apparmor profile
[13:30] <ulidtko> I have removed it, then sudo service apparmor reload, and skype works again
[13:30] <numbie> http://www.zygrib.org/#section_linux   for anyone who wants to try
[13:33] <UnixLover> Anybody have experience with truecrypt?
[13:35] <filo> #v01d
[13:35] <huayra> UnixLover, some. What do you need?
[13:37] <UnixLover> Is it possible to install ubuntu with a already encrypted harddrive
[13:37] <UnixLover> Preboot auth
[13:37] <UnixLover> Becouse I cant get ubuntu to recognize my hardrive partititon
[13:37] <UnixLover> Even tho I decrypted it with truecrypt within ubuntu
[13:38] <OerHeks> numbie, i tried, added the key & repo "deb http://doc.hausser.ch/debpackages ubuntu-dha precise" and it is available in synaptic
[13:40] <OerHeks> UnixLover, why would you install ubuntu on a already encrypted hdd ..let ubuntu handle encryption.
[13:40] <josefnpat> UnixLover, check this guy out: https://grepular.com/Protecting_a_Laptop_from_Simple_and_Sophisticated_Attacks
[13:41] <UnixLover> Josef
[13:41] <UnixLover> Bookmarked
[13:41] <UnixLover> Thanks
[13:41] <UnixLover> OerHeks
[13:41] <UnixLover> NL?
[13:41] <FloodBot1> UnixLover: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:41] <OerHeks> yes :-)
[13:42] <UnixLover> Oerheks I wanna do windows dual boot
[13:43] <designbybeck> I forgot what the command was to see how much free space you have on all your HDD drives/usb drives
[13:43] <designbybeck> can anyone refresh my memory ?
[13:44] <UnixLover> Hmmmmm
[13:44] <dontknow> i changed cursor theme as black. but the cursor theme changes black if i go over a link or on any flash video
[13:44] <OerHeks> df -h
[13:44] <designbybeck> there it is!! OerHeks thanks!!
[13:44] <UnixLover> Dontknow
[13:44] <UnixLover> Wich browser are you using
[13:44] <UnixLover> And
[13:44] <dontknow> UnixLover, chromium 18
[13:44] <designbybeck> I was just quizing you OerHeks.... you passed
[13:44] <UnixLover> Sirously why does it matter?
[13:45] <UnixLover> Dontknow?
[13:45] <dontknow> UnixLover, "Sirously why does it matter?" did you asked to me?
[13:45] <UnixLover> Yes.
[13:46] <dontknow> UnixLover, because i want black cursor theme?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> some times not all apps see the new cursor  untill they are restarted, or X is restarted
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> seen it in the past. differnt apps useing differnt cursors
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> I seem to recall kde not having the issue. but the old gnome2 had a similer issue
[13:47] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i restarted of course. the issue is system wide not only in browser
[13:47] <halvors> DeltaHeavy: I'm sure. But it may depend on your IPv6 status. Do you have IPv6 Connectivity?
[13:47] <UnixLover> Did you upgrade yet
[13:48] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, and chromium is still 18 lol
[13:48] <numbie> OerHeks,  mine wont get the gpg
[13:48] <bmoez> QUESTION: what is the best alternative to HandyCofe for ubuntu?
[13:48] <dontknow> OerHeks, you said chromium updates will come, but it is still 18
[13:49] <UnixLover> Dontknow. I know its a stupid suggestion but did you do apt-get update , apt-get upgrade
[13:49] <jcrza> Anyone else use keepass with precise?
[13:49] <dontknow> UnixLover, of course
[13:49] <halvors> Anyone knows how to enable IPv6 in Ubuntu, can only find howto disable it...
[13:49] <MKeigher83> hey all.... i am trying to setup ubuntu to collect snmp data from my network...before i begin...is this possible?
[13:49] <OerHeks> numbie, enter: "  wget http://doc.hausser.ch/debpackages/dha-debpackages.key -O - | sudo apt-key add -  "  and then it ask for your password
[13:49] <dontknow> halvors, it is enabled by default
[13:50] <halvors> Nope. Have IPv6 connectivity, when i lookup google.com i get the A record, not the AAAA...
[13:50] <UnixLover> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6
[13:50] <halvors> I've read that...
[13:50] <tix> why is this happening on my ubuntu vps? http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[13:50] <njin> Hello, terminal and resume from screensaver don't accepting my password, login and tty accept, /etc/sudoers is ok, any hint ?
[13:50] <piezo> tix: what should happen?
[13:50] <jrib> tix: what exactly is your question?
[13:51] <piezo> :) i see only a blog
[13:51] <numbie> OerHeks,  no it doesnt :/
[13:51] <tix> jrib: heh, i just wanted people to visit the URL... i'm testing real-time analytics
[13:51] <tix> like 8 people visited heh
[13:51] <jrib> tix: don't do that.
[13:52] <numbie> well now it worked :/  blah
[13:52] <tix> 6 from the US, 1 from germany, and 1 from ukraine
[13:52] <UnixLover> Lol not risking browser-autopwn xD
[13:52] <piezo> tix: might a reason to kick/ban...dont do that
[13:52] <tix> UnixLover: rofl
[13:52] <dontknow> OerHeks, when will chromium updates come :D ?
[13:52] <MKeigher83> hey all.... i am trying to setup ubuntu to collect snmp data from my network...before i begin...is this possible?
[13:52] <tix> metasploit
[13:52] <UnixLover> Yep
[13:52] <OerHeks> numbie, oke, now update & upgrade
[13:52] <OerHeks> dontknow, dont know, soon.
[13:52] <MKeigher83> is it inbuilt? or what do i need to install to setup it up?
[13:52] <piezo> MKeigher83: with what piece of software?..
[13:53] <piezo> cacti, mrtg, collectd...?
[13:53] <MKeigher83> thats what i want to know.
[13:53] <tix> okay, who came in from boston?
[13:53] <tix> 2 people from boston visited my blog
[13:53] <dontknow> OerHeks, i think you just made it up
[13:53] <MKeigher83> new to snmp and i wanted to know if i could get ubuntu to collect data on my networked devices
[13:53] <compdoc> thats amazing
[13:53] <UnixLover> Mkeigher
[13:53] <jrib> tix: stop discussing it.  It's not about ubuntu support.  And please don't do something like that again
[13:53] <piezo> MKeigher83: maybe collectd or mrtg is a start.
[13:53] <UnixLover> Take a look at Backtrack
[13:53] <tix> jrib: lol
[13:53] <MKeigher83> collect trap
[13:54] <tix> but people clicked
[13:54] <tix> i could have had an exploit pack on there
[13:54] <MKeigher83> backtrack?
[13:54] <MKeigher83> ok
[13:54] <piezo> thx jrib, as i said...
[13:55] <numbie> OerHeks, W: Failed to fetch "the zygrib.deb" Hash Sum mismatch
[13:55] <halvors> Really? Nobody knows how to enable IPv6? Also so Ubuntu prefer that over IPv4?
[13:55] <UnixLover> Halvors. I think there is plenty support online
[13:55] <halvors> Nope...
[13:55] <halvors> Can't find anything.
[13:56] <MKeigher83> whats snmp walk?
[13:56] <piezo> halvors: im online with ipv6 right now speaking to you
[13:56] <halvors> Sure?
[13:56] <MKeigher83> am i on the right track?
[13:56] <piezo> MKeigher83: if you dont know about snmp, read about :) with walk you only can get all data from a mib
[13:56] <halvors> Well, when i surf on Google, doing DNS lookups everything "prefer" IPv4.
[13:56]  * Dr_Willis heard they were waiting for Service pack one for Chromium to come out befor they release updates.......
[13:56] <dontknow> halvors, open network settings, in ipv6 section choose auto
[13:56] <piezo> halvors gai.conf?
[13:56] <MKeigher83> ok
[13:57] <halvors> I can browse IPv6 sites, the problem is that Ubuntu prefer A record over AAAA records...
[13:57] <halvors> gai.conf?
[13:57] <halvors> In /etc?
[13:57] <UnixLover> Any nerdcore lovers on
[13:58] <josefnpat> nerdcore lover?
[13:58] <piezo> halvors: http://pastebin.com/e5kaGA63
[13:58] <piezo> halvors: http://linux.die.net/man/5/gai.conf
[13:58] <josefnpat> UnixLover, I'm a big chiptune fan
[13:58] <UnixLover> What is Chiptune?
[13:58] <halvors> Do i really need to change .conf files for doing this?
[13:59] <halvors> I thought Ubuntu was ahead on Windows with IPv6...
[13:59] <piezo> halvors: try it...dont know if ubuntu prefers it, just using deb :)
[14:01] <josefnpat> UnixLover, what is nerdcore?
[14:01] <josefnpat> UnixLover, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiptune
[14:01] <josefnpat> And for Nerdcore, do you mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerdcore
[14:01] <UnixLover> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnLB8wysMbY
[14:01] <Artemis3> UnixLover, tunes produce by a chip?, such as sid 6581? or perhaps music including said tunes?
[14:02] <josefnpat> UnixLover, does music like that have lasting power?
[14:02] <UnixLover> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvGRNu08B4
[14:02] <UnixLover> I'm going tattoo nerdlife on my arm in a month
[14:03] <UnixLover> So I will never stop loving it atleast
[14:03] <josefnpat> Really?
[14:03] <sepoki> Hi, i have to run m program in all files at the folder how can i do it ? my program usage is "java Test *.html"
[14:03] <josefnpat> "I am the warez loder"?
[14:03] <halvors> Think i figured it out, it's a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1002454?comments=all
[14:03] <UnixLover> Sepoki be more specific
[14:04] <sepoki> i have a lot of files .html
[14:04] <MKeigher83> ok heres a simple question...how do i stop the prompt that always asks me for my user password when i want to intsall things?? NOT in the terminal that is...just the GUI?
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> sepoki:  use the find command, or a bash script
[14:04] <MKeigher83> or if one thing disbales both, then thats fine
[14:04] <sepoki> and i have to execute this program in java using that comando
[14:04] <MKeigher83> im just sick of always typing in ym admin password
[14:04] <UnixLover> Login as user root
[14:04] <UnixLover> MK
[14:04] <MKeigher83> anyway to give my account root privs?
[14:05] <MKeigher83> *workaround
[14:05] <UnixLover> Google
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> if you have sudo rights. then you do have root privs
[14:05] <dontknow> MKeigher83, what do you mean
[14:05] <sepoki> UnixLover, understand it ?
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> the sudoers file can have exceptions. check the sudoer docs/examples
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> then it wont ask for the pass for specific programs
[14:06] <UnixLover> Sepoki no
[14:06] <MKeigher83> well wehen i type sudo apt-get install "whatever" i get asked for my password...thats fine...as im in the terminal
[14:06] <UnixLover> Which program do you want to open the files with
[14:06] <UnixLover> mk
[14:06] <UnixLover> If you do sudo su
[14:06] <MKeigher83> but when i doing other things in the GUI...a box pops up prompting for my password
[14:06] <UnixLover> You get root terminal
[14:07] <sepoki> UnixLover, mine program
[14:07] <MKeigher83> ah ok..well thats fine in the terminal! :)
[14:07] <MKeigher83> what about he GUI?
[14:07] <UnixLover> Well you need to run xorg as admin
[14:07] <dontknow> MKeigher83, what king of changes do you do forexample?
[14:08] <UnixLover> sepoki im thinking
[14:08] <MKeigher83> install things on synaptic.
[14:08] <MKeigher83> go to change some system settings
[14:08] <MKeigher83> i just seem to get prompted a lot
[14:08] <sepoki> and the syntax of usage is java Test blabla.html
[14:08] <MKeigher83> i understand security, just anted to disable tat prompt all the time
[14:08] <dontknow> MKeigher83, it is expected behavior asking password when installing something
[14:08] <UnixLover> Sepoki You know that if you use * as a willdcard
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> system settings would be differnt then installing packages.
[14:09] <BrainFrosty> Any small tools that chops up audio files?
[14:09] <UnixLover> java Test *
[14:09] <sepoki> UnixLover, i already tried but didnt  worked
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> !info sox
[14:09] <UnixLover> What did it say
[14:09] <dontknow> MKeigher83, don't try to change that
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> BrainFrosty:  try sox
[14:09] <BrainFrosty> Nice Dr_Willis
[14:09] <BrainFrosty> thankz
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> sox is a bit old-skool. so it might not support all file formats
[14:09] <dontknow> !info chromium
[14:09] <dontknow> xD
[14:09] <UnixLover> chromium-browser
[14:10] <UnixLover> Is package name
[14:10] <dontknow> !info chromium-browser
[14:10] <duncan-nz> How do disable assisitive technologies? Can't find that setting in Unity
[14:10] <numbie> this pisses me off
[14:10] <dontknow> ubottu, why is it still 18
[14:10] <dontknow> :D
[14:10]  * Dr_Willis heard they were waiting for Service pack one for Chromium to come out befor they release updates.......
[14:10] <sepoki> UnixLover, nothing just execute in one file
[14:11]  * Dr_Willis ducks
[14:11] <UnixLover> Are you in the folder that contains html files
[14:11] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, what service pack, dont kiding around dude :D
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/112432/chromium-19-for-ubuntu
[14:14] <razelda> I keep getting  a signature error when i try to run updates is there a problem with the ubuntu repository ... by the way i tried thought the CLI and the GUI Updater... I'm also getting the same problem thought the software center
[14:14] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i know that link very well :D where does it say something about service pack
[14:15] <sepoki> UnixLover, yeah
[14:17] <sharp15> is there a way to have the live cds display the boot messages during boot?
[14:18] <UnixLover> f6
[14:18] <UnixLover> I thought it was
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> use the advanced options  and use options like 'noquiet nosplash verbose nomodeset'
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> F5 or F6 i dont recall either
[14:19] <sharp15> ok. thanks.
[14:22] <anton> hs
[14:27] <duncan-nz> anyone know how to disable assistive technology in unity?
[14:28] <somersb3> hi. can anyone help me with VPNC I am getting asked for the third password   "Password for VPN"  after i have topped in group and user password
[14:29] <sepoki> why this didnt work "java ParseHTML *.html"
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> sepoki:  the shell expands that to be  java paresehtml  every.html file.html that.html has.html
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> ;) you get the idea.
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> if your app can handle such a list then it would work
[14:31] <sepoki> hum
[14:31] <zatan> hey, how can i remove packgage NAGIOS3 ? I did sudo apt-get remove nagio3 but still in  /etc/
[14:31] <sepoki> it didnt run one-by-one
[14:31] <sepoki> :
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> zatan:  if you mean the settings are there. you should 'purge' not remove
[14:31] <sepoki> ?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> sepoki:  aparently the app cant handle a list of files
[14:32] <sepoki> it doesnt
[14:32] <sepoki> How can i run one-by-one
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> so we are back to using the 'find' command, or some bash construct like i mentioned earlier....
[14:32] <Stramith> Hi
[14:33] <mneptok> sepoki: why not try asking in Java-related channels?
[14:33] <sepoki> mneptok, cause its a shell problem dude
[14:33] <sepoki> i think
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> its a user not knowing how to use the shell problem.
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> Hmm My browers seems broken.
[14:33] <mneptok> sepoki: no, once that first command"java" gets run, the shell is out of it.
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> cant find any find tutorials ;)
[14:35] <Stramith> some women wanting to talk?
[14:35] <mneptok> Stramith: wrong channel.
[14:36] <sepoki> lol
[14:37] <Stramith> mneptok: what would be the channel?
[14:37] <mneptok> Stramith: i don't know.
[14:37] <mneptok> Stramith: but such things are unwelcome here.
[14:38] <Stramith> mneptok: Ok, tku
[14:38] <mneptok> Stramith: de nada
[14:43] <sepoki> Dr_Willis, i didnt find nothing like that
[14:44] <Stramith> .I'm online on the site for ubuntu. how do I figure out the irc network to connect elsewhere?
[14:45] <happy> how can i use bluestack in ubuntu using wine ???
[14:45] <bazhang> happy, check the appdb
[14:45] <bazhang> happy then join #winehq
[14:45] <bazhang> !appdb | happy
[14:48] <fasta> For lots of applications I get: error while loading shared libraries: liblzma.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:48] <fasta> Ubuntu has no /usr/lib which seems to confuse the linker.
[14:48] <fasta> What's the idea behind that?
[14:51] <namoamitabuddha> does vboxvideo support kms?
[14:52] <sharp15> does ubuntu keep the .deb files somewhere on the hard-drive after install?
[14:52] <randomDude> yes sharp15
[14:52] <EliahKagan> @sharp15 yes, it keeps them in /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:53] <namoamitabuddha> until you do apt-get clen.
[14:53] <namoamitabuddha> clean
[14:53] <EliahKagan> @fasta for liblzma.so.2, you probably just have to install the liblzma2 package
[14:53] <EliahKagan> as for /usr/lib/, Ubuntu certainly does have it ...does your Ubuntu system not have /usr/lib ?
[14:53] <EliahKagan> (that would be bad...)
[14:53] <fasta> EliahKagan: and how do I get it?
[14:53] <sharp15> darn.  that won't work.  nevermind.
[14:53] <fasta> EliahKagan:  apt-get install liblzma2 => not found
[14:54] <EliahKagan> @fasta what Ubuntu release are you running?
[14:54] <fasta> EliahKagan: ah, right, it does have it.
[14:54] <fasta> EliahKagan: I mean /usr/lib
[14:54] <fasta> EliahKagan: still no lzma
[14:54] <sharp15> i have a machine with a bad network card that i need to use for something.  was going to copy the .deb files between machines.  problem.  one machine is 64bit the other is 32 bit.
[14:55] <Linux_user> Is this safe setting for UFW? (Windows user here so Im kinda used to a different firewalls) http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1290/201205251648551024x768s.png
[14:55] <fasta> Linux_user: firewalls don't create secure systems.
[14:56] <fasta> Linux_user: correct code and defined security policies create secure systems.
[14:56] <Linux_user> few ports scans dont show any open ports but still
[14:57] <Linux_user> fasta you realize I dont have a clue what you are talking about right?
[14:58] <sharp15> Linux_user: he means choosing well written and properly configured systems will secure something more effectively than a firewall.
[14:58] <escott> Linux_user, (a) you shouldnt need to specify outbound open ports, (b) why are you allowing tcp and udp on 6881, surely bittorrent is tcp only (c) resize your window to keep the posted images family friendly
[14:59] <Lady-Tux> http://pastebin.com/GcYy4Zt3 <-- pls help
[14:59] <Linux_user> Thx escott ,and pardon for that :D
[14:59] <Lady-Tux> ops
[14:59] <Lady-Tux> sorry
[14:59] <Lady-Tux> wrong window
[14:59] <fasta> Linux_user: if that's the case, then perhaps you shouldn't ask how to setup a firewall.
[14:59] <fasta> EliahKagan: is it in multi-verse or whatever it is that Ubuntu calls it?
[15:00] <fasta> ,liblzma2
[15:00] <sharp15> is there a way to have apt create a list of urls/files it wants downloaded to install something so i can do it on another machine using wget or something?
[15:00] <Linux_user> fasta that is your opinion ,nvm escott helped me on that subject.Bye