[22:01] <jrgifford> Oh sweet, hashcat is open source now.
[22:01] <jrgifford> https://hashcat.net/forum/thread-4880.html i somehow managed to miss that lol
[22:01] <jenni> [ hashcat and oclHashcat have gone open source ] - https://j.mp/1mmGEEz


[07:23] <yofel> Thomas Anderson (thomasanderson) wants to be a member of Kubuntu Ninjas - Yellow belts (kubuntu-ninjas-yellow-belts)
[07:23] <yofel> does anyone know him?
[08:36] <ejay> Hi. I installed plasma 5.6.4 from backports on kubuntu 16.04. Kdeinit5 keeps crashing like there is no tomorrow. Why? How to diagnose whats wrong?
[09:58] <clivejo> shadeslayer: are you working on apps 16.04.1 in Neon?
[09:59] <shadeslayer> not exactly ...
[09:59] <clivejo> oh
[09:59] <shadeslayer> I needed it for other things
[09:59] <shadeslayer> and the easiest way for me to get it done was to just update Neon's branches
[09:59] <clivejo> what you need it for?
[10:00] <shadeslayer> Debian rebuilds
[10:01] <clivejo> I see you put in a request to package lastest libdrumstick
[10:01] <shadeslayer> yeah
[10:01] <clivejo> Im trying to figure out why korganizer keeps crashing
[10:02] <shadeslayer> you stalker
[10:02] <shadeslayer> :P
[10:02] <clivejo> LOL I need it packaged too!
[10:02] <shadeslayer> xD
[10:02] <clivejo> for that weird package Ive never seen before
[10:02] <clivejo> have no idea what its does!
[10:03] <clivejo> Im assuming its a music thingie-ma-jig
[10:03] <shadeslayer> I'll just update it in a repo for myself
[10:03] <clivejo> any ideas on what KCalCore::ICalTimeZoneData::ICalTimeZoneData (this=0x5623445a0ce0, rhs=..., tz=..., earliest=...) at /build/kcalcore-yvIebH/kcalcore-16.04.1/src/icaltimezones.cpp:708
[10:03] <clivejo> means?
[10:04] <shadeslayer> that you need to poke bugs.kde.org ?
[10:04] <shadeslayer> looks like a crash in the ICalTimeZoneData ctor
[10:04] <clivejo> kontact seem to think its broken ABI
[10:04] <shadeslayer> wouldn't that be a different crash?
[10:05] <clivejo> no idea :/
[10:05] <shadeslayer> does KDE PIM gurantee ABI?
[10:05] <clivejo> shadeslayer: I was trying that myself, but not sure where the files should be installed - https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/yakkety/+build/9783082
[10:06] <clivejo> havent had time to go back and look at the properly
[10:06] <shadeslayer> I can take a poke later
[10:12] <clivejo> at least kmail is working again in 16.04.1
[10:13] <clivejo> doesnt seem to be stalling and taking forever to open emails
[10:14] <soee> :)
[10:17] <clivejo> how do I list all bugs for a certain product on bugs.kde?
[10:17] <soee> https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi
[10:25] <clivejo> yofel: about?
[10:28] <clivejo> need some guidance on kdeconnect
[10:41] <acheron88> clivejo: supposed fix to the bug I reported the other day https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-desktop.git&a=commitdiff&h=8a9772d8673a58583317b4906a9352d6bf44a8e2&hp=d8197688122e6b3787283ef59fa5ddd3c518662b
[10:42] <clivejo> will it be in the next release?
[10:43] <acheron88> it's in branch 5.6, so presumably will be in any 5.6.5
[10:45] <acheron88> 5.6.5 - Tue 2016-06-14  'Bug fixes and new translations only from Plasma/5.6 branch - only if needed'
[10:45] <clivejo> have you applied the patch yourself?
[10:45] <clivejo> test if it works?
[10:45] <acheron88> nope. only just seen it
[10:46] <acheron88> I will apply later today and test
[10:46] <clivejo> are you on YY or XX?
[10:46] <acheron88> XX on main machines, and YY in a VM
[10:47] <soee> valorie, ovidiuflorin could you post news about 5.6.4 in backports?
[11:21] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:04] <acheron88> clivejo: testing locally on XX, that patch/commit seems to do the trick
[17:59] <clivejo> acheron_uk: are you acheron88?
[18:03] <acheron_uk> yes, sorry
[18:09] <clivejo> hi :)
[18:09] <clivejo> what part of the UK you in?
[18:11] <acheron_uk> SW, more or less
[18:11] <clivejo> getting good weather?
[18:11] <acheron_uk> Has been great today
[18:11]  * clivejo nods
[18:11]  * clivejo just had a BBQ
[18:12] <acheron_uk> nice. may do that later in the week or w/e if things hold
[18:14] <clivejo> is that kickoff bug only in FW5.22?
[18:17] <acheron_uk> seems that way. I tested in arch with FW5.21 and no prob, then updated to FW5.22 from their testing repo while plasma stayed the same, and up popped the bug.
[18:18] <acheron_uk> fix is in plasma desktop, but looks like was just exposed by change in FWs
[18:42] <clivejo> can anyone else confirm this crash in korganizer?
[19:34] <valorie> hi folks, trying to figure out what needs testing in YY?
[19:34] <valorie> or I guess I can try backports in XX on my travel computer
[19:45] <valorie> btw, I finally restarted this laptop after days, and the only odd thing I'm noticing is that my screen color is oddly changing like every half minute or so
[19:46] <valorie> I think redshift has gone bipolar or so
[19:50] <clivejo> that is odd
[20:01] <valorie> once I turned it off in the widget the color shifts stopped, so it isn't plasma, the drivers, etc.
[20:01] <valorie> sad, because I really like/need redshift
[20:13] <valorie> backports is now installing on the travel laptop, but I suppose by now all the kinks have been worked out
[20:13] <clivejo> nope
[20:14] <clivejo> there always be bugs!
[20:15] <valorie> I was thinking that dropbox wouldn't start, but no, it was just still syncing
[20:16] <valorie> of course it's a rather lean lil box
[20:16] <clivejo> is it any snappier?
[20:16] <valorie> hard to say, it's pretty slow
[20:16] <clivejo> I find 5.6 bit quicker
[20:16] <acheron_uk> krunner ate my memory earlier today. not sure what caused that
[20:17] <clivejo> login, opening apps etc seems a little faster
[20:17] <valorie> perhaps
[20:17] <valorie> I basically only use it to test between trips
[20:17] <valorie> oh, I woke with a crown from one of my molars in my mouth this morning
[20:18] <valorie> need to leave to the dentist to have that looked at/replaced/repaired
[20:18] <clivejo> valorie: did you see yofel's question this morning?
[20:18] <valorie> ttyl
[20:18] <clivejo> Thomas Anderson (thomasanderson) wants to be a member of Kubuntu Ninjas - Yellow belts (kubuntu-ninjas-yellow-belts)
[20:18] <clivejo> anyone know him?
[20:19] <valorie> I have never heard of him
[20:19] <valorie> I can write to him and explain that he needs to come in here and help.....
[20:19] <valorie> after the dentist
[20:21] <clivejo> ok, be good :)
[20:21] <yofel> o/
[20:22] <clivejo> acheron_uk: do you have a LP account?
[20:22] <acheron_uk> yes, set a fresh one up today
[20:23] <clivejo> what is it?
[20:23] <acheron_uk> https://launchpad.net/~acheron
[20:23] <clivejo> nice
[20:24] <clivejo> will you patch plasma-desktop?
[20:25] <acheron_uk> already done it here locally
[20:25] <clivejo> I mean for everybody
[20:25] <acheron_uk> can make a ppa and upload to that?
[20:26] <clivejo> do you use git?
[20:27] <acheron_uk> sometimes, but really only for grabbing code, rather than changing or committing
[20:27] <clivejo> do you know where we keep the packaging?
[20:28] <acheron_uk> not on debian git any more?
[20:29] <clivejo> correct, we moved to Launchpad
[20:29] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git
[20:30] <acheron_uk> got it
[20:30] <clivejo> if you clone plasma-desktop
[20:32] <clivejo> checkout kubuntu_xenial_backports
[20:33] <acheron_uk> yep
[20:33] <clivejo> do you know how to create a patch and put it into the packaging?
[20:34] <acheron_uk> did it earlier with the package via quilt and making the edit myself
[20:34] <clivejo> if you look in debian/patches/upstream_include_cmath_c++_fix.diff
[20:34] <acheron_uk> assume in just the packaging only you copy in the patch and add to the series file
[20:35] <clivejo> its an example of a patch we are applying
[20:35] <clivejo> yup
[20:35] <clivejo> and add a note in the changelog
[20:36] <acheron_uk> yep, I looked at that one earler when I was modifying the package as a whole
[20:36] <clivejo> you should also close the Launchpad bug from the changelog as well
[20:37]  * clivejo wonders was it ever reported :/
[20:37] <acheron_uk> is there a LP bug?
[20:37] <acheron_uk> I didn't
[20:37] <clivejo> LOL probably not!
[20:37] <acheron_uk> as I knew it was kde upstream
[20:38] <clivejo> you could refer to the KDE bug you got the patch from
[20:38] <clivejo> just make a brief note of what the patch does, makes it easier for the next person to know it needs to be removed in the next release
[20:39] <acheron_uk> this is what I did earlier
[20:39] <acheron_uk> 2 secs
[20:40] <acheron_uk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665468/
[20:41] <clivejo> looks good
[20:41] <clivejo> what did you call the file?
[20:41] <clivejo> the patch
[20:41] <acheron_uk> just 'fix_kicker_recent_documents.diff'
[20:42] <clivejo> can you put upstream_fix_kicker_recent_documents.diff
[20:42] <acheron_uk> yes
[20:42] <clivejo> just allows us to see at a glance that its came from upstream and can be removed the next staging we do :)
[20:43] <acheron_uk> done
[20:43] <clivejo> and you change it in the series files too
[20:44] <clivejo> can I see your changelog entry?
[20:44] <acheron_uk> gimme a sec
[20:48] <acheron_uk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665626/ as I was only doing it for me
[20:51] <clivejo> !info plasma-desktop
[20:53] <clivejo> I would add a bit more detail about the patch
[20:53] <clivejo> its name mainly
[20:54] <acheron_uk> git doesn't match the backports? https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_xenial_backports
[20:55] <acheron_uk> at least the ppa changelog and versions anyway
[20:55] <clivejo> yeah
[20:55] <clivejo> backports is basically a PPA
[20:56] <clivejo> so we dont care too much about the version numbers
[20:56] <clivejo> the main archive on the other hand is different!
[20:57] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop
[20:57] <clivejo> version 4:5.6.4-0ubuntu1 is in proposed
[20:58] <clivejo> so for yakkety archive changelog we would have to make a new version ubuntu2
[20:58] <acheron_uk> I get that.
[20:59] <acheron_uk> Just looking to do a ppa version on xenial, then surely CL should follow on from the one in ppa rather than the archive version in YY?
[21:00] <clivejo> from my point of view, we usually work on devel then backport it
[21:00] <clivejo> that tends to be our workflow
[21:00] <acheron_uk> unless you just don't care and treat each a a separate backport?
[21:01] <acheron_uk> ah... as I was typing, you obviously do
[21:01] <acheron_uk> that is fine
[21:07] <acheron_uk> so now have http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665949/
[21:07] <clivejo> ah I modified its a bit for you :P#
[21:08] <acheron_uk> no probs
[21:08] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/commit/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=517d50e0fb280940f3372918771fcb77b8715c27
[21:09] <acheron_uk> fair enough in yy :)
[21:10] <acheron_uk> XX to match then
[21:11] <clivejo> so its building in the staging PPA - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.name_filter=plasma-desktop&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=yakkety
[21:11] <acheron_uk> cool
[21:13] <acheron_uk> seems I've acquired a yellow belt while I wasn't looking :)
[21:13] <clivejo> indeed !
[21:17]  * acheron_uk watches build in LP. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
[21:17] <clivejo> yeah, this is the boring bit!
[21:17] <clivejo> waiting forever for it to publish
[21:17] <acheron_uk> burger will take ages to publish as well, I bet
[21:19] <acheron_uk> pretty straight forward
[21:20] <clivejo> yeah, you got all the basics, just need to learn how to apply it :)
[21:21] <acheron_uk> as said, I tinker and rebuild stuff for myself
[21:21] <acheron_uk> just a case of adapting to a more formal way
[21:21] <clivejo> where did you learn how to package?
[21:22] <acheron_uk> myself, just wanting to modify some things the way I wanted them
[21:23] <acheron_uk> used to do the same a bit on mandrake/mandriva with rpms
[21:24] <clivejo> I wouldnt know where to start in Mandrake
[21:24] <clivejo> I have a little bit of a spite against Mandrake though!
[21:24] <acheron_uk> rmp spec files are *fun*
[21:24] <acheron_uk> why?
[21:25] <clivejo> it was the first ever distro I ever tried, I got a box set
[21:25] <clivejo> and it blew up my new monitor
[21:25] <clivejo> by jacking up the refresh rate!
[21:25] <clivejo> I was as sick as a dog over that
[21:26] <clivejo> the monitor was like £600 at the time
[21:26] <acheron_uk> ouch!
[21:27] <clivejo> have you heard of kubuntu-automation ?
[21:27] <acheron_uk> mandrake was the first I tried as well I think. got a copy/cds from uni
[21:27] <acheron_uk> heard of it? yes. maybe clicked a link? yes. recall what on earth it was? not so sure
[21:28] <clivejo> from what I remember this was like 20 floppy discs!
[21:28] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/
[21:29] <clivejo> this is what we call KA, an attempt to lighten the load and automate the packaging process
[21:29] <acheron_uk> hah! yes I seen that.
[21:30] <clivejo> once Id pushed your patch/changelog to Launchpad I used git-buildpackage-ppa
[21:30] <clivejo> that automatically goes off and downloads the source code, packages it all up, ready for upload to LP
[21:31] <acheron_uk> nice
[21:31] <clivejo> yes, its got some nice tools for making things a bit easier
[21:32] <clivejo> do-all goes into every folder in your current directory and runs the command you give it
[21:32] <acheron_uk> with the number of packages in kde imagine pretty essential
[21:33] <clivejo> git-clone-all will go grab all the packaging from Launchpad
[21:34] <clivejo> have you a KDE ID?
[21:34] <acheron_uk> that readme is a tad short!
[21:34] <clivejo> LOL yup
[21:34] <clivejo> unfortuately documentation is a bit lacking
[21:34] <acheron_uk> KDE ID in what sense?
[21:35] <acheron_uk> just have bug.kde account
[21:36] <clivejo> can you access this - https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging
[21:36] <clivejo> with your KDE ID
[21:38] <acheron_uk> page is not even loading here ATM
[21:38] <clivejo> arrrr
[21:38] <acheron_uk> 502 Bad Gateway
[21:38] <clivejo> Bad Gateway
[21:38] <clivejo> well thats useful!!
[21:39] <clivejo> well that *was* an attempt to better document it!
[21:40] <acheron_uk> I look another day if it'll let me in
[21:41]  * clivejo kicks KDE Notes and LP
[21:41] <acheron_uk> I presume? https://identity.kde.org/index.php?r=site/login
[21:42] <clivejo> yes
[21:42] <clivejo> but that page will ask you for it
[21:42] <clivejo> well it should!
[21:45] <acheron_uk> can't log inot the main identity site, so presuming a bugs.kde account is not enough
[21:46] <clivejo> soee_: ping
[21:48] <soee_> clivejo: pong
[22:13] <acheron_uk> YY published, VM updated, rebooted, and bug 'seems' fixed
[22:17] <clivejo> LOL, Im still downloading
[22:18] <acheron_uk> XX updated as well, but I'd already 'fixed' it, so should in effect be a no change package replacement
[22:19] <acheron_uk> not slow broadband here, but no fibre yet either
[22:24] <clivejo> acheron_uk: yup, thats fixes for me too :)
[22:24] <clivejo> Id like a couple more testers before moving to backports
[22:25] <clivejo> anyone up for it?
[22:26] <acheron_uk> would be wise. had a couple of crashes with krunner today that I'm reasonably sure are just coincidence, but you never know.
[22:27] <clivejo> thats the problem, things are interlinked
[22:27] <clivejo> fixing one thing could break something else!
[22:28] <acheron_uk> indeed
[22:29] <acheron_uk> right. gotta give up for this evening. zzzzzz
[22:29] <clivejo> yeah, its getting late
[22:29] <acheron_uk> thanks for the small 'tour'
[22:30] <clivejo> no problem
[22:30] <clivejo> hope we see more of you :)
[22:31] <acheron_uk> I'll pop back in tomorrow, and looks like I've all but booked a place in that 'dojo' later in week :P
[22:32] <acheron_uk> night
[22:32] <clivejo> night night


[00:18] <niemeyer> Okay, some great code reviewed, and now it's really time for bed.
[00:18] <niemeyer> Night all
[09:51] <ivoks> idea: does it make sense to use micro for example?
[10:17] <niemeyer> ivoks: You mean the micro instance type?
[10:17] <ivoks> yes
[10:17] <ivoks> for bootstrap
[10:17] <niemeyer> ivoks: It's too small
[10:17] <niemeyer> ivoks: Well.. maybe for bootstrap it's not
[10:17] <niemeyer> ivoks: But in general it's too slugish
[10:17] <niemeyer> sluggish
[10:18] <ivoks> i know
[10:18] <niemeyer> ivoks: We actually used it across the board until very recently
[10:18] <ivoks> but for learning and playing with ensemble...
[10:18] <niemeyer> ivoks: But we had complaints about it being extremely unpredictable in terms of performance
[10:18] <ivoks> amazone gives two micro instances for free for 1 year
[10:19] <niemeyer> ivoks: So we gave up on the idea to avoid burning the project image just because the instance is unreliably slow
[10:19] <ivoks> for someone that wants to try and play with ensemble (no production), those would be enough
[10:19] <ivoks> ok
[10:20] <niemeyer> ivoks: Yeah, it's a bit of a pity, but there's a reason why they give it for free :-)
[10:23] <ivoks> i know :)
[11:25] <_mup_> ensemble/expose-provision-machines r267 committed by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:25] <_mup_> Add test re assigning a machine to a service unit with opened ports, opens ports on that machine
[14:55]  * hazmat waits for the coffee to kick in
[16:13] <niemeyer> hazmat: ping
[16:14] <hazmat> niemeyer, pong
[16:14] <niemeyer> hazmat: Yo
[16:14] <niemeyer> hazmat: All good there?
[16:14] <hazmat> just chatting with bcsaller about the config-set branch and orchestra
[16:14] <hazmat> niemeyer, all good.. wimbledon on in the background
[16:14] <hazmat> niemeyer, working on security doc, and upstart today
[16:14] <niemeyer> hazmat: Ah, awesome
[16:15] <hazmat> niemeyer, ready for the meeting anytime
[16:15] <niemeyer> hazmat: How's the image stuff?
[16:15] <hazmat> niemeyer, in review
[16:15] <niemeyer> hazmat++
[16:15] <bcsaller> hazmat: I expect to have a draft doc of the co-located services proposal out soon too, so you can hear our thinking on that
[16:15] <hazmat> niemeyer, looking good, start time for the bootstrap node is a little longer, but the rest seems quite workable
[16:15] <niemeyer> hazmat: Can I trow something else on your table without you falling down?
[16:15] <niemeyer> throw even
[16:15] <hazmat> niemeyer, shoot, we'll see if it sticks ;-)
[16:16] <niemeyer> hazmat: Juan had difficulties with peer relations
[16:16] <niemeyer> hazmat: It's my understanding that they were supposed to work already, is that right?
[16:16] <hazmat> niemeyer, hmm.. how so.. i've been using them a little for the mongodb stuff, but we don't have many formulas that use them
[16:16] <bcsaller> hazmat: the peer events didn't seem to fire, we haven't looked into it yet
[16:16] <hazmat> actually any
[16:16] <hazmat> hmm
[16:16] <niemeyer> hazmat: Hah, sweet
[16:16] <hazmat> niemeyer, i'll dig into that
[16:16] <niemeyer> hazmat: So it's likely something minor
[16:16] <niemeyer> hazmat: Let me send you his formula
[16:16] <hazmat> niemeyer, which formula .. thanks
[16:17] <hazmat> i can prioritize that, its probably a minor one
[16:18] <niemeyer> hazmat: Should be in your inbox
[16:20] <hazmat> niemeyer, not seeing it yet
[16:21] <hazmat> niemeyer, got it
[16:21] <niemeyer> hazmat: Sweet
[16:22] <hazmat> niemeyer, no attachment though
[16:22] <niemeyer> hazmat: Meeting in 1:40.. will try to dial you in a little earlier
[16:22] <niemeyer> hazmat: The branch is there
[16:22] <hazmat> niemeyer, ah right.. regular phone or skype?
[16:22] <niemeyer> hazmat: What phone number should I dial?
[16:22] <hazmat> niemeyer, in priv msg
[16:23] <niemeyer> hazmat: Thanks
[16:39] <hazmat> negronjl, so the problem with the tomcat formula is that its using relative addressing to files
[16:39] <hazmat> 2011-06-29 11:38:28,105 unit:tomcat6/1: hook.output ERROR: sed: can't read /usr/lib/ensemble/txzookeeper/../templates/tomcat-server-xml-top.tmpl: No such file or directory
[16:39] <hazmat> hth
[16:39] <hazmat> that output is from the debug-log which is very useful for debugging problems..  as is the debug-hooks cmd
[16:40] <hazmat> negronjl, there's a branch in review to ensure that formula hooks are always executed from the formula dir
[16:40] <hazmat> but it hasn't landed, atm the hook PWD isn't something that can be relied on by hooks
[16:40] <hazmat> and addressing paths from there should be absolute
[16:40] <hazmat> negronjl, i guess in this case your trying to get to some formula included config?
[16:41] <hazmat> negronjl, which will become more easier once bug 761015 is fixed
[16:41] <_mup_> Bug #761015: FORMULA_DIR should be available to hooks <Ensemble:In Progress by hazmat> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/761015 >
[16:41]  * hazmat grabs some food
[18:06] <niemeyer> hazmat: ping?
[18:06] <hazmat> niemeyer, pong
[18:06] <niemeyer> hazmat: Ring.. ring.. ring..
[18:06] <niemeyer> hazmat: Ring.. ring.. ring..
[18:06] <hazmat> niemeyer, no ring here
[18:06] <hazmat> niemeyer, phone or skype?
[18:06] <niemeyer> hazmat: We just talked to your answering machine
[18:07] <hazmat> niemeyer, hmm.. my phone is low let me plug-in and see if works better
[18:07] <niemeyer> hazmat: Again
[18:19] <hazmat> niemeyer, bcsaller, jimbaker, anyone.. i dropped.. pls callback
[18:20] <niemeyer> hazmat: Calling
[18:20] <hazmat> niemeyer, thanks
[19:05] <hazmat> niemeyer, bcsaller, jimbaker, anyone.. i dropped again.. pls callback
[19:05] <niemeyer>  hazmat Calling
[19:16] <hazmat> niemeyer, bcsaller, jimbaker, anyone.. argh! i dropped again.. pls callback
[19:17]  * hazmat kicks his phone company where the light don't shine
[19:19] <hazmat> niemeyer, bcsaller, jimbaker, anyone.. argh! i dropped again.. it might be time to give up..
[20:03] <hazmat> niemeyer, i've been curious while looking at zeromq go bindings, how the general problem of thread local resources is handled in go, since there isn't any easy way of distinguishing thread from a goroutine (ie their mapped m to  n to threads)
[20:04] <hazmat> seems like its also relevant in the context of gui apps where typically only one thread is managing interacting with the gui run loop
[20:06] <hazmat> the only thing variant i've seen for this seems a bit like overkill (runtime.LockOSThread etc)
[20:07] <niemeyer> hazmat: We have exactly the same problem with zk
[20:07] <niemeyer> hazmat: It's handled by giving it its own thread
[20:07] <niemeyer> hazmat: But the zeromq Go author wasn't very clever at that
[20:08] <niemeyer> hazmat: Which means it will blow up on people's face
[20:08] <hazmat> indeed, it looks experimental at best
[20:08] <hazmat> interestingly the erlang for (zeromq) version does much the same (separate thread allocation)
[20:08] <hazmat> niemeyer, thanks, i'll take a look at the gozk impl for ideas
[20:09] <niemeyer> hazmat: Haven't seen that, but it's the only option that makes sense.. goroutines with free threading is a feature which we shouldn't undermine


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 I'm planning on buying an audio interface, which one would work best on Ubuntu Studio?
[06:38] <OvenWerks> Go_Diego_Go: That is hard to know. There is the the matter of cost of course but also features required/wished for.
[06:39] <OvenWerks> Go_Diego_Go: For most people, a USB audio device makes the most sense.
[06:40] <OvenWerks> There are PCIe devices around but they tend to be more costly.
[06:42] <OvenWerks> There is also the network set of devices with dante, aes67 and AVB devices.
[06:44] <OvenWerks> In general, if the USB device just  work on a mac (with no drivers) then it is USB 2.0 compliant and will work with Linux too.
[06:46] <OvenWerks> often if there is an onboard mixer of some sort, alsa will not be able to control it
 I see, so if I get a Focusrite Scarlett or a PreSonus, I should be good to go?
[06:48] <OvenWerks> One thing to look out for is the USB mic. There have been a number of people who have bought a USB mic with the thought of using the onboard audio as the output... I would suggest not as one or the other would require sample rate conversion.
[06:48] <OvenWerks> I have heard that the presonous is picky about which kind of USB port is used
[06:49] <OvenWerks> It tends to work best with a dedicated PCIe USB port
[06:50] <OvenWerks> the focusrite does have an internal mixer, but recent kernels should have a controller for that worked in.
 I guess PreSonus is out, I want something ready to go from scratch.
[06:57] <OvenWerks> Go_Diego_Go: https://discourse.ardour.org/t/audio-interfaces-under-linux/87896/86 might be of interest.
[06:58] <OvenWerks> in particular roll down the page to the bottom
[06:59] <OvenWerks> there are a number of posts by Mikael Hartzell which list different audio devices he seems to have tested in Linux.
 Awesome, thank you! That's what I needes.
[07:00]  * OvenWerks is off to bed
 Nights! Thanks!
 I was installing "bionic" when my internet was cut at a crucial moment  … --> it informed me that I should inspect  … /var/log/syslog as I brought up the terminal navigated to the file and my laptop decided to reboot ... The problem is it will only give me the diagnostic screen. (I ran the diagnostic -- all clear) the grub won't load
[11:49] <studiobot> and I can't access the command line at all. It keeps cycling back to the same screen. Is anyone able to help with my issue?
[14:15] <trapo> AYUDA instale ubuntu studio 19.04 y no puedo encontrar el zoomde escritorio en el administrador de configuración; o que aplicación puedo descargar de la tienda me ayudan porfa
[14:16] <Eickmeyer> !es | trapo
[14:32] <trapo> AYUDA instale ubuntu studio 19.04 y no puedo encontrar el zoom de escritorio en el administrador de configuración; o que aplicación puedo descargar de la tienda me ayudan porfa
[14:32] <Eickmeyer> !es | trapo
[15:00] <trapo> AYUDA instale ubuntu studio 19.04 y no puedo encontrar el zoom de escritorio en el administrador de configuración; o que aplicación puedo descargar de la tienda me ayudan porfa
[15:01] <Eickmeyer> !es | trapo No hablo español