[10:52] <jeramy> And I agree with the HTML mail.  Yuck.  :P
[10:52] <Anubis> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[10:53] <mcphail> Phoenix[SPH] : how does it do with PGP?
[10:53] <blk> Grev: it'll be 2.10 when it's out, for now they're at the rc's so don't expect big changes, but some smaller bugfixes and roundups.. go check out the roadmap on gnome.org
[10:53] <Phoenix[SPH] > snowblink: do you know more about this tool? how does it behave when you delete a message on the server? (webmail)
[10:53] <Martok> Hey, I was messing around with TerminatorX and it killed my sound. How do I get it back?
[10:53] <tritium> can't wait for the upcoming update to sound-juicer!  sound profiles!
[10:53] <Martok> (the sound)
[10:53] <snowblink> Phoenix[SPH] : I haven't tried it I'm afraid, but it is available in uni/multiverse
[10:54] <Grev> blk: Thanks, I tried Hoary before, but the network applet had some major bugs with my wireless card
[10:54] <darkkyo> LinuxJones, i search a netlimiter under ubuntu for limit the banwith of misc application
[10:54] <Phoenix[SPH] > jeramy: so it takes too lakes of the 4 you have there to cover switzerland....:)
[10:55] <LinuxJones> darkkyo, I think the Squid Proxy Server can do that
[10:55] <jeramy> Phoenix[SPH] , the two smaller ones.  ;)
[10:55] <snowblink> Phoenix[SPH] : it claims: Synchronize your mail two to four times faster than with other tools or other mail readers' internal IMAP support.
[10:55] <Phoenix[SPH] > best are mails with at text part "if you don't see this mail go to http://foo" ....
[10:55] <darkkyo> it is installed by default on ubuntu?
[10:55] <LinuxJones> darkkyo, no
[10:55] <jaza> how do i exec a file called libdivxdecore.so
[10:55] <jaza> ?
[10:55] <Martok> Darn it... I really don't feel like reinstalling Ubuntu again.
[10:55] <jaza> or install wtvr
[10:55] <blk> Grev: i've got a wireless card but haven't used it yet..using ubuntu (hoary) since yesterday maybe i'll stumble upon it ;)
[10:56] <LinuxJones> Martok, what's wrong ?
[10:56] <jaza> help??
[10:56] <Phoenix[SPH] > jeramy: hehe :)
[10:56] <jaza> plz
[10:56] <tritium> I'm never bringing my laptop to the business school again.  If I hear "value added" one more time...
[10:56] <Martok> LinuxJones: I was messing around with TerminatorX and it killed my sound.
[10:56] <Deft> jaza, what are you trying to do?
[10:56] <jeramy> Phoenix[SPH] , Of course, they're shared with the US.
[10:56] <LinuxJones> Martok, what is terminatorx ?
[10:56] <mcphail> jaza: you don't "exec" a library
[10:56] <Martok> I tested the sound to see if it worked with Knoppix, so atleast I know my card still works.
[10:56] <jeramy> LinuxJones, go to terminatorx.cx
[10:56] <jaza> i need to know how to install a file called libdivxdecore.so
[10:57] <Martok> TerminatorX is a file scratch program.
[10:57] <jaza> what do i do with the library?
[10:57] <Martok> It's dj software.
[10:57] <Phoenix[SPH] > snowblink: the problem is, when I delete something on the server it has to reflect on the workstation, and vis-versa... I can't imagine a bigger nightmare than an IMAP folder out of sync....
[10:57] <Deft> jaza, that's availible from some repositories, the wiki has a list
[10:57] <jaza> everytime i run the install.sh it says hat file wasnt found in usr/local/lib
[10:57] <LinuxJones> Martok, did you re-boot into Ubuntu ?
[10:58] <jaza> how do i installl divx or something that plays them
[10:58] <jeramy> jaza, you're trying to install wtvr, and it's giving you that error?
[10:58] <Phoenix[SPH] > jaza: thats a library
[10:58] <jaza> ya
[10:58] <Martok> Yeah, I even uninstalled TerminatorX and rebooted and that didn't help.
[10:58] <Phoenix[SPH] > not binary meant for execution....
[10:58] <LinuxJones> Martok, are you running hoary ?
[10:58] <Martok> No, Warty
[10:58] <snowblink> Phoenix[SPH] : Heh. I try to keep my mailboxes smaller than 1000 messages so it's not too slow.
[10:58] <jaza> then how do i install divx...
[10:58] <Phoenix[SPH] > though there are geeks that do some nasty things I suppose with some core libraries this way....
[10:58] <LinuxJones> Martok, what kind of sound card do you have ?
[10:59] <website> jaza, do you wanna play a divx?
[10:59] <Martok> An Sis 900 or something like that.
[10:59] <jaza> yers
[10:59] <jaza> i wanna play divx
[10:59] <jaza> how??????/
[10:59] <Martok> Or Sis 712 or something.
[10:59] <mcphail> jaza: www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:59] <LinuxJones> Martok, do you know if you were using alsa or oss drivers ?
[10:59] <jaza> and
[10:59] <jaza> ?
[10:59] <jaza> not on there i looked
[11:00] <jeramy> jaza, install mplayer from ftp.nerim.net
[11:00] <Martok> I think I was using OSS.
[11:00] <mcphail> follow instructions for installing codecs
[11:00] <website> jaza, use totem player
[11:00] <Phoenix[SPH] > snowblink: me too, but mailinglists are easily 5 times that size....
[11:00] <Martok> But I was still able to use alsamixer and stuff.
[11:00] <Martok> I'm using OSS.
[11:00] <website> jaza, you need gstreamer0.8-mad package
[11:00] <Deft> jaza, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:01] <LinuxJones> Martok, double check your mixer settings, if they seem ok check gstreamer-properties and test using alsa and oss for sound output
[11:01] <snowblink> Phoenix[SPH] : ~D -(this month) ;)
[11:01] <blk> is there a PPC-specific chan. for ubuntu?
[11:01] <Martok> Whoa... WTF they're all the way down!
[11:01] <Martok> All of em!
[11:01] <LinuxJones> heh
[11:01] <Martok> I wonder why that happened?!
[11:02] <Phoenix[SPH] > Martok: you might have to unmute them....
[11:02] <Martok> I was just using tX and then all of a sudden it stopped
[11:02] <LinuxJones> Martok, I guess your mixer settings got Terminated :D
[11:02] <jeramy> lol
[11:02] <jeramy> ouch
[11:02] <Martok> It's not that they're not mute, they're all the way down.
[11:02] <Martok> LinuxJones: LOL.
[11:03] <Martok> Thanks guys.
[11:03] <jeramy> website, I can't get Totem to play _anything_
[11:03] <Phoenix[SPH] > what do you folks from ca pay for insurances?
[11:04] <SymbolicLink> Anyone know of a way to batch-convert wma to mp3?
[11:04] <LinuxJones> Phoenix[SPH] , what type of insurance ?
[11:04] <Phoenix[SPH] > SymbolicLink: ffmpeg might work...
[11:05] <Phoenix[SPH] > LinuxJones: car, health, hmmm... how are alle these called in english...
[11:05] <jeramy> Phoenix[SPH] , ugh.  My car insurance is $120/month, and house is roughly $50-$60/month?
[11:06] <jeramy> I have no health insurance, other than what my company provides -- stuff like semi-private room in hospitals.
[11:06] <LinuxJones> Phoenix[SPH] , there ar eno premiums for health, but car & home insurance depends on their estimated value I suspect
[11:06] <Phoenix[SPH] > jeramy: I paid about 2400$ per year for my camaro, full insurace (meaning, I can dump it agains the wall and get the money it was the second before) - but I was on 40% of bonus/malus
[11:06] <djcb> evo currently crashes with a floating point exception on amd64
[11:06] <jeramy> Oh, and prescriptions and eye exams and such stuff are not free.
[11:06] <djcb> any updates on that?
[11:06] <sniperd> Anyone have a working Audigy 2 on 4.10?
[11:07] <Tux-Rox> Phoenix[SPH] , I am paying US$60 a month for auto insurance and no health insurance. The US doesn't have social medicine.... :-(
[11:07] <Phoenix[SPH] > LinuxJones: A 3,8 Targa Camaro is about 25'000 US$
[11:07] <Phoenix[SPH] > And sold for about 43'000 CHF
[11:07] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  No way, not now they arent...
[11:07] <LinuxJones> Phoenix[SPH] , I have a 2000 Mazda Protege 5-Speed and pay about 900.00 for full coverage
[11:08] <jeramy> My wife's 1995 rustbucket Ford Escort which she never drives costs $85/month
[11:08] <jeramy> no collision
[11:08] <snowblink> Is it just me, or is lugradio down?
[11:08] <LinuxJones> jeramy, Fords are poison
[11:09] <jeramy> LinuxJones, you bet.  :)
[11:09] <LinuxJones> heh
[11:09] <jeramy> We got it for free from my parents
[11:09] <Phoenix[SPH] > jeramy: in switzerland you have to have a health insurance, but you have additional accident insurace when you are empoyed... but you have to pay at least 130CHF per month in switzerland for health insurance
[11:09] <sniperd> Anyone running an audigy 2?
[11:10] <jeramy> no universal health care in Switzerland?  I'm surprised.
[11:10] <Tux-Rox> Phoenix[SPH] , So I guess you don't have social health insurance as I thought.
[11:10] <Tux-Rox> Ya me too.
[11:10] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: *new* ones? what price have you seen and where?
[11:10] <dud> free medical care in norway <3
[11:10] <dud> and dental upuntill 21 of age
[11:11] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  2002 was the last year for the camaro, So there arent 'New ones' anymore...
[11:11] <Phoenix[SPH] > jeramy: I assume the state covers it if you can't pay it...
[11:12] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  But you can get a LS1 for 15-20k in pretty good condition with not many miles
[11:12] <Phoenix[SPH] > jeramy: hey, we are not russia back in the 40's - you can have health care with all the bells and whistles....
[11:12] <jeramy> No, there is no having to pay for it.  (well, except through taxes)
[11:13] <jeramy> There isn't the option here to pay extra for treatment, unless you go to the US.
[11:13] <wasabi> Hello. I am trying to get a NFS volume exported and I am getting an error on the client. What log can I watch on the server to see it?
[11:13] <SymbolicLink> QM!
[11:14] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: the first time the care gets on the road "1. Einloesung" counts - until then the care is counted as new and you get the full manufacturars warrenty  - so if I buy a camaro in 2008 that had not been on the street before I would have a 3 year warrenty even then
[11:14] <LinuxJones> wasabi, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NFSServerHOWTOUbuntu/view?searchterm=nfs
[11:15] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  True, but good luck finding a brand new car thats been sitting on a lot for 6 years
[11:15] <jeramy> Did anyone else notice that you have to start up Samba manually in Hoary?  There used to be a GUI option in network-admin to enable it...
[11:15] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: did I mention that it costs about 640.- to be allowed to drive a camaro in switzerland per year
[11:15] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: where are you from?
[11:15] <goldfish> sorry, i was asking ealier about how i could change my screen resoltion, i was told to do this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. but it has nothing about resolutions in there.
[11:15] <goldfish> ?
[11:15] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  las vegas nevada, usa
[11:15] <goldfish> like, ubuntu wont go full screen
[11:16] <goldfish> it did on the live cd
[11:16] <goldfish> but not the install
[11:16] <goldfish> Any ideas?
[11:16] <siimo> is there an alternate site for mplayer?
[11:16] <Deft> goldfish, can you change resolution in gnome?
[11:16] <Phoenix[SPH] > jeramy: so depending on the medical service you get depends on the employer?
[11:16] <jeramy> All cars in Canada are $75 for the year to register, provided you pass the emissions tests.
[11:16] <siimo> Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  USER failed, server said: Sorry, only two connections per IP address are allowed   keeps happening
[11:16] <goldfish> Deft: Well, yeah but the max resoltion there is 1450 x 1050
[11:16] <wasabi> LinuxJones, i need the log file
[11:16] <jeramy> Phoenix[SPH] , no, you just don't pay for doctors and hospitals.
[11:16] <wasabi> The client is getting an error... but I dont know WHY
[11:17] <jeramy> Show your health card, and away you go.
[11:17] <Deft> goldfish, LCD?
[11:17] <goldfish> Deft: i want it to go to 1680 x 1050
[11:17] <jaza> how do i play mpeg and divx movies?
[11:17] <sniperd> goldfish damn thats huge,
[11:17] <LinuxJones> jaza, you need the w32codec package
[11:17] <goldfish> well, it;s my screen size :)
[11:17] <jaza> got it
[11:18] <jaza> jonages
[11:18] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: well, you have to count at least 7000.- US$ plus to the price you see in the the gm website for switzerland....
[11:18] <sniperd> oh i see
[11:18] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  dont ever get the 3.8
[11:18] <jeramy> jaza, I use mplayer, since I can't get totem to play anything.  Did you get it?
[11:18] <sniperd> if you cant get the V8 just get somethin else, it wouldnt be as fun
[11:19] <jaza> where
[11:19] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: but I got for my 98 Camaro about 12000 CHF, that's 10'000 US$ - and it has 65'000km, 55'000miles I guess
[11:19] <jaza> jaremy where is mplayer
[11:19] <bluefoxicy> hey question
[11:19] <LinuxJones> jaza, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:19] <bluefoxicy> htf do you set up a splash screened boot process with bootsplash or fbsplash
[11:19] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  Oh thats not bad at all
[11:19] <jeramy> jaza, Did you add the marillat sources?
[11:19] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  Are they a bit rare over there?
[11:20] <jeramy> (as seen in ubuntuguide.org)
[11:20] <jaza> ?
[11:20] <jaza> marillat?
[11:20] <LinuxJones> wasabi, I'm not running nfs but it should be in the /var directory possibly in a portmap log file
[11:20] <goldfish> Anyone got any ideas?
[11:20] <Phoenix[SPH] > jeramy: I pay that every other year to let my care assure that it's in fit condition.... and they don't do the emission test, that you have to do on your own... but dunno what that costs (I made mine during service time)
[11:20] <jeramy> Go to ubuntuguide.org, hit "/" and then type in marillat
[11:20] <jeramy> assuming you're using Firefox
[11:21] <jaza> cant be loaded...
[11:21] <Deft> goldfish, you could try running "sudo xresprobe dummy" and see if it will see the other screen modes
[11:21] <jaza> jeramy didnt work
[11:22] <jeramy> Phoenix[SPH] , here once you pay for a safety, you never have to again, unless you change ownership.
[11:22] <jaza> anyone plz send me a link to a apt get or something to play divx and avi ...
[11:22] <goldfish> Deft: coolio, i shall try that
[11:22] <jeramy> jaza, try the testing one.
[11:22] <jaza> ja
[11:22] <jeramy> and then apt-get update
[11:22] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: 1 LITER of normale 95 benzin is 1,42 CHF... in switzerland... 1.80CHF in germany - I assume you pay peanuts for your gas....
[11:22] <jeramy> or synaptic Reload
[11:22] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: so I didn't dare to buy a 5,8
[11:22] <LinuxJones> jaza, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:23] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  hehe, I see what your saying :), we pay 1.80 a gallon though...
[11:23] <jeramy> Phoenix[SPH] , gasoline here is about 90 cents/L for premium.
[11:23] <jaza> been there hasd nothing but 0gg no idea how to install
[11:23] <jaza> if its not a .run file i cant lol
[11:23] <jaza> or sh
[11:23] <goldfish> id:
[11:23] <goldfish> res:
[11:23] <goldfish> freq:
[11:23] <jeramy> Ok, so you're at a console?
[11:23] <sonne> what can I do if ununtu does not find the soundcard ?
[11:23] <goldfish> Deft: That's what i get from that?
[11:23] <LinuxJones> jaza, read down :D
[11:23] <goldfish> sonne: U on a laptop?
[11:23] <sonne> no
[11:23] <sonne> desktop
[11:23] <goldfish> k
[11:24] <goldfish> dell?
[11:24] <sonne> aldi medion
[11:24] <goldfish> ah right, sorry
[11:24] <Deft> goldfish, not so helpful... have you looked through your x config?
[11:24] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: well, you don't see them as often as Opel Astra's and other european car's ... but now and then... especially if you own one you notice them.... but you don't have to hunt them, there are some occasions during the year to get a camaro...
[11:24] <goldfish> Deft: jeez, em... first time linux user here :/
[11:24] <jeramy> jaza, I don't know what you meant.
[11:24] <Deft> goldfish, ok, you using warty?
[11:24] <jeramy> Do you have a terminal open?
[11:24] <goldfish> Deft: I am.
[11:25] <wasabi> okay. I am unable to mount. Portmap refuses to allow a connection.
[11:25] <wasabi> But, I have fixed /etc/default/portmap
[11:25] <jeramy> jaza, or are you using Synaptic?
[11:25] <wasabi> ahhhh
[11:25] <Deft> goldfish, open a console, and run "less /etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
[11:26] <LinuxJones> wasabi, you modify the config file. Ubuntu listens only to localhost when you install any services
[11:26] <Phoenix[SPH] > jeramy: premium is 98 octan gas?
[11:26] <jeramy> ooh.  4 degrees C.  balmy.  ;)
[11:26] <jaza> k i have sound no video...
[11:26] <wasabi> LinuxJones, I just said "I fixed /etc/default/portmap".
[11:26] <jeramy> No, 94.  They don't sell 98 here.
[11:26] <jeramy> Or 92.
[11:26] <LinuxJones> wasabi, sorry watching tv
[11:26] <goldfish> Deft: yeppa, the file is there now
[11:26] <jeramy> I mean, some places only go as high as 92.
[11:26] <LinuxJones> did you re-start portmap service ?
[11:26] <jeramy> Regular is 87.
[11:27] <Deft> goldfish, a couple of thing to look for: the Driver in the Device section; and anything in the Monitor section
[11:27] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  European countries count the octane of the gas diffrent
[11:27] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  so your octane isnt comparable to ours
[11:27] <jeramy> jaza, what are you using to watch?
[11:27] <sonne> so what if alsa does not find the device ? is there anything I can do
[11:27] <jaza> someone please help i tried playing a movie in totem, i get audi no video
[11:27] <zenrox> help
[11:28] <zenrox> i jsut bought a new vidcard and kband mouse and warty wont start up
[11:28] <goldfish> Deft: hrmm... In the monitor section, it has a list of modes, each one has "1680x1050" in them.
[11:28] <jeramy> sniperd, I didn't know that.  Everything else is different, so why not octane, eh?  ;)
[11:28] <zenrox> it hangs on hotplug
[11:28] <apokryphos> When trying to run 3ddesktop, it tells me "Please configure hardware acceleration". Any idea how I would do that?
[11:28] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: gosh! Why oh why - at least europeans and americans have the same ELF format...
[11:29] <Deft> goldfish, can't remember if you said; is this an LCD?
[11:29] <sniperd> jeramy hehe yep
[11:29] <goldfish> emm...
[11:29] <goldfish> Deft: lol, it's a laptop
[11:29] <jeramy> apokryphos, it means you don't have DRI enabled... :(
[11:29] <jaza> can someone help me
[11:29] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, you need to install either the nvidia or ati binary drivers for your videocard
[11:29] <sniperd> Phoenix[SPH]  lol, The worlds still far from being standardized though :)
[11:29] <jeramy> apokryphos, what video card do you have?
[11:29] <kbrooks> Hi.
[11:29] <goldfish> Deft: Dunno if it's lcd, sorry :)
[11:29] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, hi
[11:30] <apokryphos> jeramy: video card? Do you mean Graphics card? Yeah, I've got an Nvidia. 64MB.
[11:30] <kbrooks> What's up/
[11:30] <zenrox> i have a nvida fx5200
[11:30] <kbrooks> s/\//\?//
[11:30] <zenrox> and warty wont boot
[11:30] <jeramy> nvidia what?
[11:30] <Deft> goldfish, does the driver match what you'd expect?
[11:30] <Phoenix[SPH] > sniperd: far? like to the moon and back on foot... yeah... I can picture it....
[11:30] <apokryphos> jeramy: nvidia Geforce2 mx-400
[11:31] <goldfish> Deft: aye, it does. "nv" I have anVidia card so I presume that is right.
[11:31] <LinuxJones> zenrox, I hav the same card
[11:31] <Panzerboy> yay!
[11:31] <zenrox> but i dont thank thats why warty wont boot
[11:31] <Panzerboy> i'm upgrading to hoary
[11:31] <Panzerboy> :)
[11:31] <kbrooks> me too.
[11:31] <jeramy> apokryphos, that was my first guess.. :)  I don't have a nvidia card, so I won't be much help, but I can start you off.
[11:31] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  it hangs on starting hotplug
[11:31] <apokryphos> jeramy: cool
[11:32] <kbrooks> zenrox, i want to enjoy the benefit of newer packages. ;)
[11:32] <jaza> wow xmms sux.
[11:32] <Anubis> gdesklets
[11:32] <jaza> cant open files wtf
[11:32] <kbrooks> er
[11:32] <l__________l> bonjour
[11:32] <Anubis> anyone using the older version in stable?
[11:32] <LinuxJones> zenrox, shut down did you have a usb mouse before your new one or ps/2 ?
[11:32] <kbrooks> Panzerboy, *****
[11:32] <apokryphos> zenrox: not Ubuntu live? ;)
[11:32] <l__________l> parle pas francais ?
[11:32] <Phoenix[SPH] > jaza: try "Beep Media Player"
[11:32] <Deft> goldfish, yes, that's right...
[11:32] <jaza> kbrooks, u know any codecs or anythin that i can play divx and mpeg vids??
[11:32] <Panzerboy> is it possible to make the weel mouse work in firefox like it works in windows?
[11:32] <kbrooks> jaza: dont ask me
[11:33] <apokryphos> jaza: mplayer
[11:33] <Phoenix[SPH] > jaza: but xmms is not that sucky... it's a gtk1 app... that's what sucks most...
[11:33] <Panzerboy> like, when you press it, it appears that little round thingy whith arrows
[11:33] <zenrox> ubuntu live warty kernal panics
[11:33] <zenrox> on me
[11:33] <snowblink> Anubis: 0.26.2 on warty
[11:33] <jaza> how do i start mplayer
[11:33] <l__________l> qui parle francais "ptin"
[11:33] <jaza> where the hell are the icons in apps
[11:33] <jaza> omg :(
[11:33] <Phoenix[SPH] > Can this french guy, please choose a name as nick... please!
[11:33] <Deft> goldfish, you could try changing the driver to vesa (using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 is probably the best way) and then restarting X
[11:33] <l__________l> non
[11:33] <apokryphos> jaza: If you've got it installed, just Run Command > mplayer
[11:34] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  i just reinstalled warty (then upgrade to hoary) so i dint have to reconfigure xorg.conf
[11:34] <Phoenix[SPH] > Well, then I have no reason to speak french...
[11:34] <goldfish> Deft: k, i'll try that, thanks for your patience
[11:34] <jaza> says command not found
[11:34] <l__________l> ???
[11:34] <goldfish> Being a n00b sucks :)
[11:34] <zenrox> still had to configure it to get my vid card worken but thats ok
[11:34] <LinuxJones> zenrox, your running Hoary + GF 5200MX ?
[11:34] <jaza> where do i get mplayer
[11:34] <snowblink> goldfish: what errors do you get when it tries the higher res?
[11:34] <jeramy> apokryphos, or not.  :(  You should have the nvidia driver in restricted modules.
[11:34] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  knoppix at the moment ,trying to get ubuntu warty to boot
[11:34] <apokryphos> jaza: you don't have it installed. You can use synaptic for it. Do you ahve that installed?
[11:34] <l__________l> scue toi mek
[11:35] <goldfish> snowblink: I don't get errors, the max res available is not big enough
[11:35] <LinuxJones> zenrox, I went back to Warty this afternoon after struggling with that combo for a day and a half :(
[11:35] <zenrox> gf fx5200 pci
[11:35] <jaza> yes i got synaptic
[11:35] <jeramy> apokryphos, I could Google for it, but there's probably someone on here with a nvidia video card...
[11:35] <apokryphos> jaza: What am I talking about... it comes with Ubuntu :D
[11:35] <Phoenix[SPH] > la vie est dure sans confiture....
[11:35] <LinuxJones> zenrox, did you install the nvidia drivers on Warty ?
[11:35] <snowblink> goldfish: check your /var/log/XFree*
[11:35] <apokryphos> jeramy: Don't worry about it; I appreciate your help, really :). I'll do some research.
[11:35] <zenrox> i cant get warty to boot to do that
[11:35] <zenrox> LinuxJones,
[11:36] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  it hangs on starting Hotplug
[11:36] <LinuxJones> zenrox, was your old mouse usb or ps/2 ?
[11:36] <jeramy> oui oui.  Je l'ai mang hier soir
[11:36] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  usb just like this one
[11:36] <zenrox> but that shouldent matter
[11:36] <apokryphos> je deteste le francais =) (I was always quite bad at it)
[11:36] <zenrox> casue i just reinstalled warty
[11:36] <apokryphos> Beautiful language though ;)
[11:37] <zenrox> with new kb and mouse hooked up
[11:37] <LinuxJones> zenrox, can you re-seat or swap your old video card back in and try firing it up again ?
[11:37] <Phoenix[SPH] > jeramy: hey, that was the best sentance I was able to produce in french ;)
[11:37] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  the old vid card is built in
[11:37] <kbrooks> should you upgrade if you are upgrading to hoary
[11:37] <zenrox> i845g/gl
[11:37] <LinuxJones> zenrox, did you disable it in system bios ?
[11:38] <cozman> I've been struggling with the live CD lately, I am unable to get online, it seems to recognize my ethernet card but it isn't connecting
[11:38] <zenrox> cant emachine dont have that option
[11:38] <jeramy> I'm not exactly a francophone myself... :)
[11:38] <jeramy> anyway, gtg
[11:38] <cozman> if anyone can help I'd be very thankful
[11:38] <kbrooks> 'apt-get upgrade'
[11:38] <apokryphos> What package should be installed to install JAVA Virtual Machine? I see a lot of packages there... and the j2re ones seem to be for Debian.
[11:38] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  knoppix works just fine
[11:38] <apokryphos> (using Hoary)
[11:38] <zenrox> using it at the moment
[11:38] <jeramy> ciao
[11:38] <LinuxJones> zenrox, if it's built in video you can disable it somewhere in bios I would image. Maybe you just need to have a good look around.
[11:39] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  allreday did
[11:39] <zenrox> not thare
[11:39] <randabis> apokryphos, dunno, I always just used the bin from sun's site
[11:39] <LinuxJones> zenrox, knoppix is not the same as Warty
[11:39] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  i know
[11:39] <LinuxJones> zenrox, try pulling the new card out and try booting in again
[11:39] <zenrox> LinuxJones ok will do
[11:39] <zenrox> ill be back if it dont work
[11:39] <apokryphos> randabis: Alrighty; will do. Just a shame that the repositories there are included...
[11:40] <LinuxJones> zenrox, come back anyway :)
[11:42] <geppy> I've just patched and built a new kernel, and put it in /boot.  How do I need to reconfigure GRUB to recognize it?
[11:43] <geppy> Do I need to run 'grub-install /dev/hda4'?
[11:43] <geppy> ermm.... 3
[11:43] <geppy>  /dev/hda3 is my root directory
[11:43] <kbrooks> rub grub
[11:43] <kbrooks> run
[11:44] <snowblink> geppy: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:44] <geppy> Oh, alright.
[11:44] <geppy> That's all?
[11:44] <Phoenix[SPH] > Does anybody know what this read line in xchat is supposed to mean?
[11:44] <geppy> I'm quite familiar with how to do that.  =)
[11:45] <Phoenix[SPH] > red, not read
[11:45] <geppy> I've only copied the bzImage;  do I need to do something with initrd.img?
[11:46] <Phoenix[SPH] > greppy: it's similar to lilo... you just have not to rerun it every time....
[11:46] <randabis> you could have made your life easier by installing kernel-package
[11:46] <TheMuso> geppy: Why didn't you make it the debian way? A lot easier.
[11:46] <randabis> you could have just generated a kernel image deb file
[11:46] <geppy> randabis:  True, but I'm looking to learn.  =)
[11:46] <randabis> :)
[11:46] <cozman> does Ubuntu have any quirks when it comes to installing it's own bootloader, I'm familiar with dual booting with other distros, is there anything special about Ubuntu
[11:46] <randabis> ok
[11:46] <TheMuso> Fair enough.
[11:46] <Phoenix[SPH] > geppy: I'm no initrd master, but I suppose you'll have to rebuild that one - or leave it... depending on your new kernel configuration.
[11:47] <mcphail> cozman: has been pretty standard to me
[11:47] <geppy> Phoenix[SPH] :  Much thanks.
[11:47] <randabis> geppy you'll want to make a new initrd
[11:47] <geppy> randabis:  When I built the kernel, would that have been built, as well?
[11:47] <geppy> I really don't know what it is.
[11:47] <randabis> geppy, no, usually it isn't built unless you tell it to build one
[11:47] <snowblink> geppy: mkinitrd
[11:47] <TheMuso> geppy: No
[11:48] <Phoenix[SPH] > randabis: does this really work? I mean - I'm using linux for 6 years and never entrusted any script to copy the file to the right place, insert it into lilo/grub and run lilo....
[11:48] <apokryphos> anyone else having problems with installing kynaptic via apt?
[11:48] <geppy> snowblink: In the kernel build tree?
[11:48] <TheMuso> Phoenix[SPH] : Yes.
[11:48] <randabis> Phoenix[SPH] , I generally edit my grub config myself to add the new kernel
[11:48] <TheMuso> Phoenix[SPH] : After doing my own kernels on Slackware for so long, kernel package is a life saver.
[11:49] <Phoenix[SPH] > geppy: no, you have to run the "makeinitrd" or how it might be called... but IMHO is the initrd only needed when you A: have module support and B: have made necessary drivers to boot as modules....
[11:50] <randabis> mkinitrd
[11:50] <geppy> Phoenix[SPH] :  Ah, alright.
[11:50] <snowblink> geppy: Are you using ext3?
[11:50] <jaza> any way to speed up internet?? it seems to load slower than windows
[11:50] <Phoenix[SPH] > TheMuso: well, the I have to give it a shop sometime....
[11:50] <mcphail> I think you need initrd for ReiserFS (and ? Ext3)
[11:50] <geppy> ext3 for root, reiser for my music and stuff.
[11:50] <snowblink> mcphail: yup ext3 needs it
[11:51] <snowblink> geppy: then you should create one
[11:51] <Phoenix[SPH] > randabis: ... I'm lagging .... I saw your post after I wrote mine...
[11:51] <geppy> snowblink:  Alright.
[11:51] <TheMuso> Don't forget that you have to have your disk controller code in the kernel as well if you don't want an initrd.
[11:51] <TheMuso> jaza: How are you connected?
[11:51] <jaduncan> just started running Hoary now, just wanted to say thanks for the great job
[11:51] <jaduncan> this is finally enough that I want to move from unstable
[11:52] <geppy> Well, I'm rebooting. =)
[11:52] <Phoenix[SPH] > jaza: your internet is as fast as it was, no matter what os or cpu speed you have - but you might give some details ....
[11:52] <jaza> o i c
[11:52] <jaza> how do i hide a folder i made
[11:52] <jaza> so i can go to view hidden to see only
[11:52] <TheMuso> geppy: Hope you still have your old kernel set up./
[11:52] <geppy> Phoenix[SPH] :  Perhaps he is referring to Firefox defaulting to IPv6?
[11:53] <jaza> any way?
[11:53] <Phoenix[SPH] > oh, I forgot why I'm here - is anybody using hoary with cups? is this admin restriction meant to be released or a teporary matter?
[11:53] <bitfoo> add a . to the foldername
[11:53] <bitfoo> so .secretfolder
[11:53] <jaza> thnx
[11:53] <bitfoo> :|
[11:53] <jaza> LOL
[11:53] <MLimburg> i've tried gentoo twice, fedora three times, mandrake 10.1 and debian .. in two days .. it's driving me crazy ..
[11:53] <randabis> I have hoary with cups, but haven't bothered setting cups up
[11:54] <kulaki> hi, how to check which package a program belongs to?
[11:54] <Phoenix[SPH] > geppy: well - does ubuntu have ipv6 support by default in the kernel?
[11:54] <holotone> VERY new linux user here, just had one quick question.. Where does Ubuntu live store my settings, as in any changes I've made to the default setup, and long are they active for?
[11:54] <TheMuso> kulaki: dpkg --search progname
[11:54] <Phoenix[SPH] > jaza "mv myfolder .myfolder"
[11:54] <kulaki> thanks TheMuzo
[11:55] <holotone> they've got to be stored in RAM, I would imagine, but doesn't that clear at reboot?
[11:55] <TheMuso> holotone: Yes. I am not aware of any way to save your settings from the live CD, but whatever you change gets lost at reboot unless you do save them somewhere.
[11:56] <holotone> It gives me the option at shutdown to save my settings, so that doesn't do anything then?
[11:56] <TheMuso> That option is only for the GNOME desktop. That doesn't mean anything.
[11:56] <dud> you can save it on say, a usb stick
[11:56] <dud> or other removable storage
[11:57] <TheMuso> The save settings check box at the logout screen is the choice of whether you want to save your current GNOME desktop layout, etc.
[11:57] <holotone> is there any easy way to do that? I've got a memory key, and all I really wanted saved are my desktop settings, and my email settings for evolution
[11:57] <holotone> is there a quick way to do it that it will grab the settings off the USB @ boot?
[11:58] <raydogg_> anyone ever run pearpc in ubuntu ?
[11:58] <Phoenix[SPH] > holotone: I assume you'll have to copy your home folder onto the stick...
[11:58] <raydogg_> i get an error that says it can't find xopendisplay in -lx11
[11:58] <jaza> anywhere i can get custom icons for my desktop?
[11:59] <TheMuso> geppy: How did it go?
[11:59] <Phoenix[SPH] > holotone: and when you boot, to remount the stick so it's used for home partition.... that should go... it's a lilttle work but doable...
[11:59] <smsmasters> how do i set write permissions to my apache www folder
[11:59] <smsmasters> it wont let me
[11:59] <snowblink> jaza: art.gnome.org
[11:59] <holotone> Ok then, when I get off work, I'll come back by and get a little bit of help with that, if it's possible.
[11:59] <geppy> modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[11:59] <geppy> Kernel panic
[11:59] <geppy> =)


[01:56] <MrMobius> I have systemd-networkd running on ubuntu server but NetworkManager is also running. do I need to disable it? I occasionally start up XFCE over RDP but otherwise don't run a DE
[02:08] <Bashing-om> MrMobius: I do run systemd-networkd // systemctl status NetworkManager >> Loaded: masked (Reason: Unit NetworkManager.service is masked.) ; Active: inactive (dead).
[03:16] <bray90820> join #crontab
[03:16] <bray90820> oops
[03:19] <bray90820> So if I run bash /root/Backup.sh from the terminal the script works fine to backup my data but when run from sudo crontab -e I get an empty folder
[03:19] <bray90820> Why
[03:21] <tomreyn> because your script makes assumptions about the environment which only apply in the former case.
[03:21] <bray90820> I figured it out nevermind
[03:34] <cry0xen> where should i ask about snap related issue? os archlinux
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> cry0xen: snap info snapname to see
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> cry0xen: the developer will there show you if its canonical/launchpad or the maintainers contact page
[03:36] <cry0xen> i am having trouble installing snap itself. I tried to reinstall snap however I Failed. installed it using aur and asking you here after 3 hours of google search and trial. heres a screenshot of status https://litter.catbox.moe/frmdbt.png
[03:57] <arraybolt3> cry0xen: This is probably a question for #archlinux, no?
[03:57] <arraybolt3> Ubuntu and Snap aren't the same thing, Snap is a separate project that Ubuntu happens to leverage. If Arch Linux supports Snap, then they're the ones who will know how it works on their OS.
[07:12] <bray90820> Why is it that if I enter "ssh user@server" in the terminal it doesn't ask me for a password but it does from a bash script
[07:34] <ravage> It should not if you run the script bash script from the same terminal
[07:35] <ravage> If you are still doing cons: because your script makes assumptions about the environment which only apply in the former case.
[07:39] <bray90820> Not running a cron
[07:41] <bray90820> which is what I don't get
[07:41] <bray90820> ravage:
[07:41] <bray90820> Ok so it looks like the SSH keys were copied over correctly everything is working nowe
[07:41] <bray90820> *Now
[09:48] <bobdobbs`> I think my ubuntu machine has bluetooth. If I go to the settings, I can see a 'bluetooth' section. In that section I see a message saying "Vising as [hostname] and available for bluetooth transfers..." Does this mean that I can connect my ubuntu machine to a bluetooth headset?
[09:48] <bobdobbs`> Asking cos my gf is going to sleep and I want to listen to music without disturbing her
[10:05] <bobdobbs`> k, I found an article that described the bluetooth cli console, and I figured out how to scan. A scan is not showing my headphones.
[10:05] <bobdobbs`> How exactly do I persuade linux to find my bluetooth headset?
[10:12] <amosbird-> Hello! In centos there is /etc/profile.d/colorls.sh which adds convenient "ll" bash alias. Is there some package in ubuntu that provides this alais ?
[10:20] <jailbreak> Hi all
[10:33] <tomreyn> bobdobbs`: i can't really support with BT debugging, but generally, to connect / pair a BT device, you would need to initiate this (usually with the press of a button) on the device you want to connect.
[10:34] <tomreyn> search the web on "how to pair [product name / model of the BT device]"
[11:57] <bm> Kinda weird question, but are there "hidden" keyboard shortcuts in Ubuntu?
[11:57] <bm> For example, when I press Super+D, all my windows disappear, but there is nothing assigned to that combination in Settings. The shortcut for hiding windows isn't Super+D, it's Ctrl+Super+D.
[11:57] <bm> What exactly is responsible for that? It must be a Ubuntu-specific thing, because nothing like that happens in GNOME Debian.
[12:05] <Paris> maybe your window manager
[12:05] <Paris> on top of the desktop, like openbox shortcut versus....underlying qt stuff
[12:05] <Paris> oh you're using the desfault Ubuntu  desktop env maybe.
[12:17] <hleneto> bm, maybe see GNOME keyboard settings and see gnome-tweaks .
[12:21] <bm> don't see anything that would catch my eye there
[13:22] <wingarmac> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu server 22.04, and I need aid about routing. I wonder if a server can work with a single ethernet interface on multiple subnets with a single adapter using the tables. But I think I mess things up with the internet connection comming into a loop. Can someone help ?
[13:26] <wingarmac> ubserv is on main IP <IP_ADDRESS> (also <IP_ADDRESS> isc dhcp for br0 <IP_ADDRESS> made of 4 other NICs) on router <IP_ADDRESS> - ubcynt is on <IP_ADDRESS> (also tftp server with virtual IP <IP_ADDRESS>). I've also made VLANs on the router for other subnets (VLAN20 <IP_ADDRESS> - VLAN30 <IP_ADDRESS> - VLAN100 <IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:27] <wingarmac> From the router I can ping all the virtuial IPs of the respective server on the correct subnet, but can't from ubserv and ubcynt to these subnets.
[13:29] <wingarmac> Can someone lead me on the right path ?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:08] <jailbreak> BluesKaj: hi. how can we help? *laughs*
[14:14] <BluesKaj> jailbreak, you can help by testing 'buntu 20.24 Noble and reporting any bugs, like I do :-)
[14:16] <BluesKaj> err 24.04 ... my age is showing with these mistakes
[14:38] <Idrogeno> Hi All... Running 22.04, startup takes quite a long time with "A start job is running for wait for network to be configured" ticking away.  Wired connection, dhcp--no issues booting on windows.   What might it be?
[14:42] <Idrogeno> Okay, Google found the answer--just needed to disable the wait online service.  Not sure why it was hanging, but its all better
[15:03] <tobiasz> polska?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> !polish
[15:21] <jailbreak> BluesKaj: Ubuntu 24.04 is too far away. So no.
[15:23] <leftyfb> jailbreak: https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:30] <BluesKaj> so far so good on Kubuntu Noble 24.04..only one bug filed on my part and that was solved in a few hrs after reporting.
[15:30] <jailbreak> leftyfb: and? what am I meant to do with that?
[15:31] <leftyfb> jailbreak: you can test it out and help Ubuntu by filing bugs
[15:31] <leftyfb> jailbreak: you asked how you can help, that is a good way to help
[15:31] <jailbreak> No I never.
[15:32] <leftyfb> [09:08:47] <jailbreak> BluesKaj: hi. how can we help? *laughs*
[15:32] <jailbreak> Yes. Doesn't state I want to test a new release.
[15:33] <jailbreak> I was being sarcastic, fyi.  So..
[15:33] <leftyfb> jailbreak: then lets not act pedantic please. There's nothing wrong with people joining and saying hello, even daily. Let it go.
[15:33] <jailbreak> Lmao
[15:34] <jailbreak> There's #offtopic for "hi all" not needed daily in a goddamn support channel.
[15:35] <leftyfb> jailbreak: get over it. Or feel free to complain in #ubuntu-ops
[15:35] <jailbreak> Lmao
[15:36] <BluesKaj> jailbreak, install debian and hangout at the #debian chat, you'll fit right in there
[15:36] <jailbreak> No.
[15:37] <jailbreak> Guess I'll just ignore and report you to ops. Bye.
[15:38]  * BluesKaj shakes with fear
[15:45] <jailbreak> Reported :) hopefully ops do something about you BluesKaj...
[15:48] <fuzzy> ?server irc.abjects.net
[15:49] <BluesKaj> jailbreak, good luck with that :-)
[16:39] <Kartagis> hi. I'm getting several 500s when I invoke the command apt-cache policy docker-ce. what does that mean?
[16:40] <Kartagis> nvm, it's already in the guide.
[16:43] <k4k0> hm
[16:50] <Eamonn> Anyone know the way out of the catch 22: can't upgrade packages because your distro is old
[16:51] <Eamonn> But can't upgrade your distro because your packages are old?
[16:51] <Eamonn> I could just reinstall, it's just a pi, but I'm lazy and want to do it without going to the machine and unplugging it
[16:53] <kc2bez> Eamonn: have a look at this wiki page about EOL releases and upgrades - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[16:53] <leftyfb> Eamonn: it's a pi, you are MUCH better off just getting another sd card and flashing a new image
[16:54] <kc2bez> FWIW I agree with leftyfb
[16:59] <Eamonn> Realistically reflashsing the ssd is better, but I can ssh in from my phone whereas physically accessing it turns it from a 'now' project into a 'some day' project :)
[17:01] <jailbreak> Some day it is then.
[17:01] <Eamonn> so all of my sources are ports.ubuntu.com
[17:02] <leftyfb> Eamonn: it takes about 5 minutes to flash the sd card. The task was suggested 7 minutes ago
[17:03] <leftyfb> Eamonn: btw, there are ways to setup a newly flashed ubuntu sd card to allow ssh on first boot
[19:29] <bobdobbs`> tomreyn: The headphones side of thing is easy. I just hit a button and it opens to pairing. The issue is that the ubuntu machine can't see the headphones
[19:34] <tomreyn> bobdobbs`: so that's where it goes into BT debugging and i'm no longer of use.
[19:36] <jeremy31> bobdobbs`: post URL from terminal for> (lsusb; sudo dmesg| egrep -i 'blue|firm')|nc termbin.com 9999
[20:15] <imi> hi, in jammy if I right click "copy to..." a large file from trashbin to a location the actual copy operation hangs the system until it finished right when you accepted the copy location in the dialog box. how do I report this issue?
[20:16] <bobdobbs`> jeremy31:  `dmesg| egrep -i'blue|firm'` returns no output
[20:17] <leftyfb> imi: why would you do that? Maybe pick "restore from trash" first and then copy or move it elsewhere
[20:17] <jeremy31> bobdobbs`:    (lsusb; sudo dmesg| egrep -i 'blue|firm')|nc termbin.com 9999
[20:18] <bobdobbs`> that command returns a help output for nc
[20:18] <jeremy31> bobdobbs`: The whole thing is one command, don't split it up
[20:18] <jeremy31> everything from ( to 9999
[20:18] <bobdobbs`> I just copypasted it
[20:19] <jeremy31> bobdobbs`: lsusb|nc termbin.com 9999
[20:20] <bobdobbs`> https://termbin.com/gmb9
[20:21] <jeremy31> bobdobbs`: shouldn't be any problems with that bluetooth device in Ubuntu
[20:21] <imi> leftleg_: well I would do that for let's say monkey testing purposes. but actually it doesn't matter if it's wise or not, I might have better alternatives, but we don't develop softwares solely for programmers, but for grandmas and grandpas as well. so what really matters is that I (my grandpa) can navigate my (his) system into a state when it's believable for ~30 seconds to me (both of us) that the system had crashed. that's a bug
[20:21] <imi> that needs to be fixed. Either by disbling the "copy to..." option in the trash bin or otherwise. until then, this is a bug
[20:21] <leftyfb> !bug | imi
[20:22] <imi> is it a bug in nautilus?
[20:23] <leftyfb> imi: I would start there. If there's a more appropriate package to file against, the devs will usually reassign it as needed
[20:23] <imi> ok thanks


 @KMyers @Ivoriesablaze I think I'm going to switch to a rolling backpack or briefcase
 I have been tempted to go with a rolling backpack but I downsized a bit
 BTW. If you want something painful, look for the Verge's example on how to build a computer. It is a pure cringefest
 They took down the official video but there are plenty of reaction videos that are entertaining
 Mirror - https://youtu.be/a1Wn1bA4NuI
 @Ivoriesablaze / @ahoneybun / @AdamOutler and @govatent should get a kick of it
 Out of it
 An Allen wrench?
 He calls the zip ties tweezers and he must think that wireless anti-static wrist straps exist
 I remember when I was that dumb
 Did he just call the io shield a brace?
 Watch the entire video. The installation of the thermal paste should trigger all of us
 @Ivoriesablaze, Yes.  And he uses League of Legons to show off the performance... A game that requires a single core processor and integtated GPU to run.
 ... did he just ADD thermal paste saying the pre-applied paste on the cooler wasn't enough?????
 I've wiped clean and added a FRACTION of that to SERVERS. And they're still humming along!
 @Ivoriesablaze, Yup... And applied about 4x as much as they should have
 The power supply part is cringy
 And dangerous
 He also installs both sticks of RAM in the same bank - forget about dual channel
 I didn't even think about that, good point
 He also does not seem to know about PCIe Lanes. You typically install the GPU in the top because it is normally the only 16x PCIe Slot - not to keep the SSD cool
 And calling the case the frame the entire tiney
 Time*
 Not even a chassis, a frame
 No wonder they took this video down
 Gah, that CPU part.... Yeesh
 He also tells you to install the power supply onto the rubber pads to prevent a short circuit.  … A) Those rubber pads are to minimize sound, not prevent electrical conductivity … B) By using metal screws, it would defeat that all together. The power supply is designed to be conductive for a reason, it grounds the case to prevent electrical failures
 He also points the vent of the power supply at the motherboard
 Wait, what?
 Yes. Look at the power supply
 I couldnt get a good look at it
 My favorite parts were the "tweezers" (zip ties),  you will need a Swiss army knife, hopefully with a screw driver, and the Live Strong wrist "antistatic" wrist band.
 You shouldn't be using a pocket knife, you should be using a screw driver.
 Yeah, also the case SHOULD be grounded.
[17:31] <maxolasersquad> I feel bad for the dude in the video.    If you spread it, it creates air pockets which resist the thermal conducivity.
 The heat sink spreads it properly with it's own weight.
 @maxolasersquad, No, he deserves whatever ridicule he gets. If he does not know how to build a computer, he should not have done it
 Or he should at least research what he was saying. Some of those instructions are beyond stupid - they are dangerous
 Using the wrong screws on the liquid cooling could cause water to leak onto the motherboard
 The Power Supply could cause overheating
[17:41] <maxolasersquad> It's one thing to not know what you are doing, it's another for a someone to put together an entire production behind your demonstration of your ignorance. The Verge's production and publishing arm should not have let it get as far as actually hitting the Internet.
[17:42] <maxolasersquad> He's not the only one that made gross errors of negligence, just the face of it for everyone involved.
 @maxolasersquad, The only time I would release something like that is on April Fools day
[17:42] <maxolasersquad> Haha
 @AdamOutler, Did you also notice that he only installed 3 of the mounting screws for the CPU heatsink?


[00:00] <SiDi> i dont even know what ark linux is
[00:00] <SiDi> the last kde distro i wanted to try appeared to have an EULA
[00:00] <SiDi> i didnt read it, i deleted the iso and vm virtual disk immediately
[00:01] <Viper550> http://arklinux.org/ RPM-based, but uses APT
[00:01] <Viper550> base install is pretty much kdebase and such on a disk
[00:04] <Viper550> we have few gtk components in our repos
[00:09] <BHSPitMonkey> Viper550, *why* rpm-based?
[00:09] <BHSPitMonkey> You better have a good reason.
[00:09] <Viper550> bero thinks its easier to make RPM packages
[00:09] <BHSPitMonkey> wtf
[00:10] <Viper550> but hey we have apt
[00:10] <BHSPitMonkey> I know it's exciting and all, but is there a real point to spinning off a new distro?
[00:11] <BHSPitMonkey> You're just contributing to FOSS pollution
[00:11] <Viper550> I didn't start it...I'm just plotting out for KDE 4
[00:12] <BHSPitMonkey> Oh, and by the way... This is an Ubuntu channel :)
[00:12] <Viper550> I know...but, first release of Ark predated Kubuntu's first by a few months
[00:13] <Viper550> *a month
[00:15] <Viper550> we were kinda thinking of having 2 main themes, a dark and light idea
[00:18] <kwwii> re
[00:19] <SiDi> kwwii: not gone bed ?
[00:19] <kwwii> SiDi: I am a kde member since it began, official and all
[00:19] <kwwii> SiDi: nope, they just closed the bar :p
[00:19] <SiDi> ahahah
[00:19] <kwwii> SiDi: ie. I am responsible for oxygen and such
[00:19] <kwwii> crystal before that, etc
[00:19] <SiDi> how do u find time for ubuntu stuff then ? :P
[00:20] <kwwii> lol, since ubuntu I don't have much time for it anymore
[00:20] <kwwii> I worked at suse for 7 years before this
[00:20] <kwwii> an d my first 1.5 years at canonical were working on kubuntu
[00:20] <Viper550> so I had this idea, two styles; a sort of "calm before the storm" theme, and a theme of "the" storm
[00:20] <SiDi> kwwii: how old are you ? :P
[00:21] <kwwii> old, I have been working for linux for 11 years and before that I owned 3 restaurants, and before that I wwas a civil engineer designing toxic waste landfills
[00:21] <kwwii> but I am only 38 :)
[00:24] <SiDi> wow :p
[00:25] <SiDi> btw, i refreshed xfwm themes for dust, dust sand and new wave
[00:26] <SiDi> got an impression one too but it definately needs polishing
[00:26] <SiDi> any chance we get these in community-themes ?
[01:03] <Viper550> SiDi, http://bayimg.com/image/eaponaabp.jpg
[01:07] <SiDi> nice wallpaper
[01:07] <Viper550> might not be the actual wallpaper, but the colors are pretty sure
[01:11] <SiDi> night
[08:46] <shadeslayer> hi
[08:46] <shadeslayer> can anyone help me create a icon theme similar to the one here : http://gaia.customize.org/
[08:47] <shadeslayer> just point me to a tool which does everything for me ;) i just feed it the icons and it creates a theme
[08:54] <ryanprior> shadeslayer: You'll want to look at existing icon themes and the freedesktop.org standard for icon themes. There is no plug-and-play program right now, but we do have build scripts for icon themes that makes things significantly easier.
[08:54] <ryanprior> shadeslayer: You'll have to learn a little bit of hacking, but it's totally doable.
[08:54] <shadeslayer> ryanprior: yeah....i can manage basic things like a custom gtkrc
[08:56] <ryanprior> shadeslayer: If you're interested in building a theme, I would suggest first getting involved in our effort to build the Breathe icon set. It's in progress and we welcome new contributors. You can learn how the Breathe build system works and how a theme is put together, and then you'll have the mojo necessary to build your own.
[08:56] <shadeslayer> ok...can i join next  month after the 20th....exams on right now
[08:58] <ryanprior> shadeslayer: If you'd like to get updates in the mean-time feel free to join our mailing list.
[08:58] <shadeslayer> ryanprior: ok , link please :)
[08:59] <ryanprior> shadeslayer: read topic. ;-)
[08:59] <shadeslayer> ryanprior: k subscribing...
[09:01] <shadeslayer> thanks
[13:13] <macvr> anyone familiar with the breathe icon theme present here?
[13:26] <macvr> anyone here?
[13:27] <thorwil> halfway
[13:28] <macvr> thorwil: i have noticed that there are no icons for the apps section?
[13:29] <macvr> could i submit for the nm applet? or submissions are not involved for apps?
[13:30] <thorwil> macvr, i guess you could. but breathe is in freeze for a release, currently
[13:31] <macvr> i dont mind if it is added later... but i just need to send it via the mailing list? since i'm not in bzr
[13:32] <thorwil> submissions should go on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
[13:34] <macvr> oh ok... i was worried if i was allowed to add there... thanx :)
[17:15] <ubuntu> hey there :)
[17:55] <SiDi> hi
[17:56] <savvas> SiDi: did you get that last screenshot yesterday? :P
[18:02] <SiDi> yes
[18:02] <SiDi> thanks for that
[18:02] <SiDi> i'll have to work more on impression anyways, but got no time now :p
[18:05] <ubunoob33> how can I help?
[18:05] <ubunoob33> I am a GIMP artist
[18:06] <ubunoob33> with spare time and will to help
[18:06] <ubunoob33> in exchange I onluy want more experience and maybe help with new techniques
[18:06] <ubunoob33> .maybe more in inkscape and blender
[18:07] <SiDi> hm
[18:07] <SiDi> you can make wallpapers for karmic
[18:07] <ubunoob33> okay
[18:08] <SiDi> we also are looking for great photos for an extra wallpapers package
[18:08] <ubunoob33> what shall be the mainly collor theme?
[18:08] <SiDi> theres also the Breathe icon theme
[18:08] <SiDi> anything, ubunoob33
[18:08] <ubunoob33> okay
[18:08] <SiDi> work with what you have i nmind
[18:08] <ubunoob33> okay
[18:08] <SiDi> theres no "official" recommandation yet
[18:08] <ubunoob33> I remember that old cartoon
[18:08] <ubunoob33> of the koala
[18:08] <ubunoob33> maybe I'll do that
[18:08] <ubunoob33> in tones of grey
[18:08] <SiDi> never heard of such a cartoon :p
[18:08] <ubunoob33> wait
[18:09] <ubunoob33> lemme see if I can get it from tube
[18:09] <ubunoob33> can't remember the name of it, but think was hannah barbera
[18:09] <ubunoob33> I was a kid
[18:10] <ubunoob33> kwicky koala
[18:10] <ubunoob33> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ue_oMB5d0k
[18:12] <thorwil> ubunoob33, stay clear of copyright trouble, please ;)
[18:12] <ubunoob33> okay okay :D
[18:12] <ubunoob33> don't worry
[18:12] <ubunoob33> and besides, now that I see this
[18:12] <thorwil> ubunoob33, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds
[18:13] <ubunoob33> I see the koala wasn't grey, after all
[18:13] <thorwil> but also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/MeditatingKoala
[18:13] <thorwil> have to go, dinner, bbl
[18:13] <ubunoob33> have a nice dinner, thorwil
[18:48] <thorwil> thanks, it was :)
[21:36] <Viper550> okay...what sizes do you make the default wallpapers nowadays?
[21:52] <dashua[A90]> SiDi: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/14867/screenshot_EpEFp2.png
[21:52] <dashua[A90]> New Mini 9 :)
[21:55] <SiDi> gz :D
[21:55] <SiDi> didnt install UNR yet ?
[21:55] <dashua[A90]> Yeah
[21:55] <dashua[A90]> I don't really like it.
[21:56] <dashua[A90]> This install is UNR
[21:56] <SiDi> so not customized ? :/
[21:56] <dashua[A90]> I can't run Compiz and UNR at the same time, so UNR goes.
[21:56] <SiDi> it looks like default ubuntu
[21:56] <dashua[A90]> Yeah
[21:56] <dashua[A90]> UNR just has a few extra packages
[21:57] <dashua[A90]> netbook-remix, desktop-switcher, go-home, netbook-launcher and a few others
[21:57] <dashua[A90]> Maximus
[21:58] <dashua[A90]> You can switch between the two
[21:58] <dashua[A90]> I just installed kernel 2.6.30rc6 and its running like a champ
[22:00] <SiDi> good
[22:00] <SiDi> im with my bro btw
[22:00] <SiDi> cant talk :p
[22:00] <dashua[A90]> pz
[22:39] <Viper550> workin' on a BG for that Ark Linux "storm" motif http://imagebin.ca/img/AGGxrVY.png
[23:10] <Viper550> SiDi, http://imagebin.ca/img/hHj61bX.jpg