[19:43] <Benkinooby> hi i messed with my system clock and now it falls out of sync, despite me resetting it several times a day. my hardware (=bios) clock is OK and in snyc. what can cause this behaviour?
[19:43] <zykotick9> computa_mike: fyi divx/avi is garbage - horrible container and codec that has no business on modern systems... (personal opinion only!)
[19:43] <NewWorld> computa_mike:  I think MP4 is a media file container , and DivX is a codec. That's the difference
[19:45] <davidrsmorris> :zykotick9: I'm back, tried changing the menu.  Looks like it's not loading that file.
[19:45] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: if there are ANY issues - it won't load.  did you make ANY other changes?
[19:45] <jase33> ncdu says im only using 5.5g of space. but file system properties says out of 128TB i have 5.4gb free?
[19:45] <computa_mike> zykotick9:  A quick followup - I'm running 12:04, trying to convert an MP4 to an AVI file with DIVx encoding - trying to avconv to do the conversion, but it's moaning that it doesn't recognise libxvid. have I made a typo there?
[19:46] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: No, is there any way to get some kind of debug information on it?
[19:46] <davidrsmorris> Can I run it in my own lua interpreter?
[19:46] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: "awesome -k"
[19:46] <zenguy_vm> jase did you type in: ncdu /
[19:46] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9:  can I run that with awesome up?
[19:46] <jase33> yes
[19:46] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: ya
[19:46] <jase33> it showed the largest folder as 3.0g
[19:46] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: it just checks config file syntax, and reports any errors
[19:47] <computa_mike> zykotick9: avconv -y -i "/media/ITunes/HungerGames/THG.mp4" -f avi -r 29.97 -vcodec libxvid -vtag xvid -s 640x480 -aspect 4:3 -maxrate 1800kb -b 1500kb -qmin 3 -qmax 5 -bufsize 4096 -mbd 2 -bf 2 -flags +4mv -trellis -aic -cmp 2 -subcmp 2 -g 300 -acodec libmp3lame -ar 48000 -ab 128kb -ac 2 "/media/ITunes/HungerGames/DIVX/THG.avi
[19:47] <zykotick9> computa_mike: good luck with that.  avi... i'm done.
[19:47] <E3D3> Does anyone knows what "crt viewing" exactly means ?
[19:47] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: It says config file syntax ok.  Of course, it didn't tell me which one.
[19:48] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: "awesome -c /path/to/rc.lua -k"
[19:48] <NewWorld> E3D3:  what's the context+
[19:48] <NewWorld> ?
[19:48] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: does that have to be absolute path?
[19:49] <computa_mike> zykotick9: never mind...  I've decided that I just don't know enough.. time to read up
[19:49] <E3D3> NewWorld, "whatis more" --> file perusal filter for crt viewing
[19:49] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: relative would work as well (as long as either are correct)
[19:49] <mernilio> Hi friends! Sad to say, but im banned from #ubuntu-offtopic :-(
[19:49] <davidrsmorris> mhm.  It's not the syntax, then.
[19:49] <mernilio> One should think its higher in roof in off-topic than here?
[19:50] <jase33> im just gonna reinstall ubuntu...issue seems wack...thanks for the help y'all
[19:50] <zachP> NewWorld: Thanks for that. I wish they had that back in windows98 :D
[19:50] <DJones> mernilio: You need to take it up with ops in the channel then, join #ubuntu-ops to discuss it
[19:50] <E3D3> NewWorld, Sorry. The shell-command 'whatis more' gave me that sentence. I know 'more' or 'less' but want to understand also this.
[19:50] <NewWorld> E3D3:  :o that's arcane. My guess is that CRT is cathode ray tube (the old-style, fat monitors). And more is a very very old program and is making reference to that? haha idk
[19:50] <nooo> Can someone help me figure out why my Ubuntu server is not handing out IP addresses?
[19:50] <mernilio> Btw.. it was an asian guy who banned me.. he didnt like the idea about penis size .. Western / asian guys..
[19:51] <mernilio> :-)
[19:51] <NewWorld> zachP:  np)) had what in w98? :)
[19:51] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: does calling awesome from a child of awesome restart awesome?  Can I restart awesome with the -c arg that way?
[19:51] <NewWorld> nooo:  What do you mean "hand out"?
[19:52] <nooo> the server doesn't seem to be either receiving the requests or sending the responses for DHCP leases
[19:52] <E3D3> NewWorld, I was afraid for it. It was the only hint Googling gave me. I thank you very much for helping. Hope you don't mind if I repeat this question until I find someone who know.
[19:52] <NewWorld> ok)
[19:53] <NewWorld> nooo:  I'm a big noob in networking stuff, but isn't it the router that assigns IPs to connected machines?
[19:54] <Benkinooby> NewWorld, that depends on the setup
[19:54] <nooo> the ubuntu server in this case is the router
[19:54] <NewWorld> now I know that's possible))
[19:54] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: oh, my $XDG_CONFIG_HOME seems to be empty.  Could that be a problem?
[19:55] <zachP> NewWorld: One little problem I am confident you can solve :) I need to edit /etc/fstab but it doesn't seem to let me because it is read-only...But everything is read-only because of an error while mounting...because of the file error (thanks to me). Any ideas?
[19:55] <davidrsmorris> zachP: can you boot into a livecd?
[19:55] <NewWorld> zachP:  I remember with `mount` you can give it something like "-o remount,rw" to remount it as read-writable. it's in the manual
[19:56] <zachP> Okay thanks
[19:56] <douglas> oi
[19:57] <zachP> Davidmorris: I suppose
[19:57] <davidrsmorris> zachP: NewWorld's solution will be faster.  You won't have to reboot twice.
[19:57] <enoyzal> Is there any way to get hdmi sound to work its missing from alsamixer
[19:58] <zachP> Okay
[19:58] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  hey, what is your problem with awesome? maybe I can help; I use it
[19:58] <Benxyzzy> You can start a command with a space to prevent it being recorded in bash's history. Is it stored anywhere else, or can I be safe there's no record of the command anywhere on the system?
[19:58] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I can't get it to read my rc.lua in my home directory$XDG_CONFIG_HOME.
[19:59] <davidrsmorris> sorry, hypervigilant clipboard.
[19:59] <Labil> Hmm. I'm trying to a run a .sh script with screen & I get : Sorry, could not find a PTY.
[19:59] <nooo> Here is my current iptables config and a brief decription of the problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129486/ I could use some help with tracking down the cause
[19:59] <Labil> I googled and found a solutation that I had to "# mount devpts /dev/pts -t devpts -o mode=620" but now screen just auto terminates
[20:00] <paolooo> hi @all, can you please tell me about this partition: http://imm.io/zg9k ? Is that fine? I would like to create another partition - like "drive d:" in win...
[20:00] <mshadle> i'm having problems with /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70proxy.conf not being honored if $http_proxy environment variable is set. does anyone know how to make sure apt-get overrides the proxy ENV variable?
[20:00] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Check what it says in ~/.cache/awesome/stderr
[20:01] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: no file there.
[20:02] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  is this the awesome that you compiled on top of the Ubuntu repository Awesome pkg?
[20:02] <codepoet> Hi! n00b here. I updated my grub recently and now my Windows is not booting. Ubuntu is working fine. Can anyone help??
[20:02] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: this is just the package.
[20:02] <NewWorld> Labil:  screen as in GNU screen? That's not a program that executes shell scripts.
[20:03] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Your rc.lua is in ~/.config/awesome/   right?
[20:03] <codepoet>  Hi! n00b here. I updated my grub recently and now my Windows is not booting. Ubuntu is working fine. Can anyone help??
[20:03] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: yup.  and awesome -k says the syntax is OK.
[20:04] <Labil> NewWorld, Um screen as in the application where I can run it in the background or however you would express it... :P
[20:04] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  What makes you think that it's not running rc.lua ?
[20:04] <arwa1> hello
[20:04] <arwa1> i'm new here
[20:04] <Labil> The .sh files looks like this '#!/bin/sh
[20:04] <Labil> screen java -Xincgc -Xmg4G -jar craftbukkit-dev.jar
[20:05] <NewWorld> Labil:  Yeah, so you start screen and you get multiple terminals. Then put in the command and it crashes?
[20:05] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I changed the label "debian" to "apps" on the menu and restarted awesome.  The menu text didn't change.
[20:05] <Labil> It happens when i ./start.sh
[20:05] <Labil> And screen +x says theres nothing to attach to
[20:06] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris: Could you pastebin that section.... maybe I could spot something wrong with it?
[20:06] <arwa1> anyone has an idea how to hack from ubuntu?
[20:06] <Labil> I think that's considered off-topic arwa1 :p
[20:06] <zachP> NewWorld: Okay, almost there, when I try to remount, it mentions an "unrecognized mount option" which is part of the line I entered incorrectly in /etc/fstab. It mentions "jqfmt=vfsv" which is supposed to be "jqfmt=vfs0". Any way to call it with the 0 from command line?
[20:08] <NewWorld> zachP:  What even is "jqfmt=vfsv" is? what does it mean?
[20:09] <zachP> NewWOrld: standby I will look at the tutorial
[20:09] <gr33n7007h> Is it best to stay with 10.04 or upgrade to 12.04?
[20:09] <NewWorld> Labil:  If I run "screen xterm" for example it also doesn't start. Why do you need "screen" in that shell script?
[20:10] <arwa1> I'm using 12.04 it's great
[20:10] <Labil> Also, another thing.. I was sitting in WinSCP and putty at the same time, and I realised i capitalized a folder name I was in 'Folder' i renamed it in (winscp) to lowercase 'folder' however I kept navigating and -wget'in some files in putty, when i restarted putty I realised the capitalized folder was gone and all its contents, where did they end up? :D
[20:10] <zachP> It is in a line that has to do with the program "quota" which is supposed to be installed (couldn't install cause software sources fail to be fetched...soo many probs) which is written in /etc/fstab having to do with the partitions. Your guess is good as mine, I am a complete newb.
[20:10] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: http://pastebin.com/ZN4AKMTT I think it is in order.
[20:10] <Labil> NewWorld, To run it in the background
[20:10] <Labil> I only have remote access, so I can do other stuff aswell
[20:10] <gr33n7007h> arwa1, Is it buggy?
[20:11] <nooo> Could someone here help me figure out why my linux router is not assigning IP addresses? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129503/
[20:11] <Labil> And I need to be able to read the console log it generates and perform commands at times
[20:11] <E3D3> NewWorld, I'm Dutch & just learned that crt is a common English abbreviation. Thanks again for helping while I was silly. That's why the other channels kept quiet ! Bye.
[20:11] <NewWorld> E3D3:  So what does it actually mean?
[20:12] <Guest2559> part
[20:12] <E3D3> Someone from #bash confirmed 'our' guess.
[20:13] <E3D3> NewWorld, UNIX is filled with fossiles ;)
[20:13] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  super-silly question, but did you reload awesome?
[20:13] <NewWorld> E3D3:  so is it cathode ray tube?
[20:13] <E3D3> Yep
[20:13] <NewWorld> ok)
[20:13] <minimec> nooo: Dumb question: Is the 'ufw' firewall service running on your system? Could that give you some conflicts?
[20:14] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: Yup.  And have rebooted a few times since making changes elsewhere (adding Delightful widgets).
[20:14] <zachP> NewWorld: Here is a pastebin for you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129512/
[20:15] <Labil> ls
[20:15] <Labil> oops wrong monitor
[20:15] <nooo> what's ufw?
[20:15] <NewWorld> Labil:  You can run stuff in background by appending "& disown %" this way, iirc even if you close the that terminal it will continue running.
[20:15] <Labil> NewWorld, But can I resume it via putty?
[20:15] <minimec> nooo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[20:16] <nooo> Looks like it's installed, but I never enabled it.
[20:16] <E3D3> NewWorld, I also like "man - an interface to the -->on-line<-- reference manuals". Here 'on-line' = 'opposed to printed'. Are those manuals written by monks ?
[20:16] <minimec> nooo: the ufw service is started by default in ubuntu I think.
[20:16] <nooo> I just ran the ufw disable command, still not assigning leases
[20:17] <minimec> nooo: terminal: sudo service ufw status
[20:17] <nooo> Status: inactive
[20:17] <minimec> nooo: ok
[20:17] <NewWorld> E3D3:  hahahah, maybe back then online meant on the harddisk as opposed to on paper? xD
[20:17] <zachP> lol
[20:18] <zachP> NewWorld: Here is what I was talking about in a pastebin, but I must go now, thanks for the help PM if you have any ideas based on it, thanks very much: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129512/
[20:18] <minimec> nooo: I have to agree that I don't deal with iptables. So I would not be able to check your pastebin...
[20:18] <promet> Heya, I'm trying to setup a Postfix/Dovecot server, I'm running on an alternate port, is there a way to stop Postfix from spitting out port 25 connection errors,so I can clean up mail.log a little bit for troubleshooting?
[20:19] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I just tried it. In rc.lua go to the bit where it says "table.insert(menu_items, { "awesome", my ............" that's where you have to add/change the debian menu item
[20:19] <Labil> Nvm it was a java error not screen
[20:19] <nooo> I'm attempting to reset iptables now to not block anything
[20:19] <NewWorld> zachP:  I'll look at it and PM if I know, see you))
[20:19] <zachP> NewWorld: Thanks a million!
[20:19] <minimec> nooo: good idea
[20:20] <E3D3> NewWorld, Without trying to troll, I really think this kind of ancient bullshit should disappear from the start of essential stuf (like 'man man'). How can millions of happy penguins ignore such  bad start ?
[20:20] <domtron> NewWorld: hay just got my cli working again, i just had to run autoremove. thanks for all the help :)
[20:20] <NewWorld> great))
[20:21] <sambagirl> what is realserver? does it use multiple ports?
[20:21] <sambagirl> is that from real.com?
[20:21] <Dr_willis> NewWorld,  i recall many computer 'labs' in the 80's  that had HUGE printed books of the 'man' pages..
[20:21] <CynepCupon> can someone please tell me what the xf86 video driver is?
[20:22] <Dr_willis> NewWorld,  i used to IRC on a 'green bar' printing terminal.. picture a Dot matrix printer with a keyboard..no actual screen. ;)
[20:22] <nooo> hmmmm
[20:22] <nooo> still nothing
[20:22] <minimec> nooo: Found this on google about the iptables reset. Also see 'comment 1'. http://insanelabs.com/linux/linux-reset-iptables-firewall-rules/
[20:22] <NewWorld> E3D3:  Dr_willis : to me ancient referencs like that are historical. To willis - they are nostalgic xD
[20:22] <emjayess> hi all - doing some accidental sysadmin work on a server I inherited, and trying to identify some characteristics of the box...
[20:23] <hirsty> heya all
[20:23] <hirsty> ive found that my ralink adapter has a dat file with connection information in
[20:23] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: hm, so your rc.lua seems to look a lot different from mine.  Did you use the ubuntu package too?
[20:24] <hirsty> could i have some help setting it up please? not sure if thats the issue
[20:24] <nooo> Yep, reset manually and used that script, still not coming through
[20:24] <emjayess> cat /etc/*-release indicates it to be a ubuntu 10.04 instance, but is it normal for lucid to have the following output from cat /proc/version??
[20:24] <emjayess> Linux version 2.6.18-274.3.1.el5.028stab094.3 (root@rhel5-build-x64) (gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-46)) #1 SMP Thu Sep 22 13:24:07 MSD 2011
[20:24] <ThinkT510> emjayess: no
[20:25] <nooo> minimec, I think it's safe to assume at this point that iptables is not blocking the requests at this point. Perhaps it's something with the dhcp server?
[20:25] <emjayess> ThinkT510: I thought that was odd
[20:26] <marsfligth> how to create a link to a folder that if i delete the link the folder remain untouched? i mean the same behavior as MS link (*.lnk)
[20:26] <minimec> nooo: Are these cards configured via /etc/network/interfaces or via the network-manager?
[20:26] <Dr_willis> marsfligth,  a soft link works that way.
[20:26] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  ooops, sorry. That bit is not part of the default config, I'll look into this some more
[20:26] <nooo> Looks like neither?
[20:27] <nooo> ah
[20:27] <openvoid> marsfligth, ln -s folder link
[20:27] <nooo> etc/network/interfaces
[20:27] <minimec> nooo: Could you pastebin that one?
[20:29] <paolooo> hi @all, anyone can help me about my partition http://imm.io/zg9k Is that a correct paritioning?
[20:29] <nooo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:29] <nooo> oops
[20:29] <nooo> lol
[20:29] <nooo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129536/
[20:30] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Hmm yeah, can'tn see anything wrong. Did you try starting awesome with "-c" and pointing to the rc.lua? Otherwise you should try asking at #awesome on the OFTC IRC
[20:31] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I use a display manager, it's a session, I don't call it myself.  And I'm pretty sure if I killed X it would restart.
[20:31] <ThinkT510> paolooo: it works but i don't know why you would want them that big
[20:31] <hirsty> anyone got the 3060 chipset working on ubuntu 12.04LTS (64 bit)???
[20:31] <emjayess> ThinkT510: I have dpkg and apt-get installed, i'm perplexed as to why /proc/version woud hint at red hat...
[20:31] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: can I restart it with added args somehow?
[20:31] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  stop the lightdm service and it wont restart.
[20:32] <emjayess> tho i've only (practically) ever administered ubuntu boxes,
[20:32] <hirsty> if so would love a walkthrough :(
[20:32] <ThinkT510> emjayess: i have no idea, this a server?
[20:32] <emjayess> yeah
[20:32] <mrgenixus> hi.  Is there a version or configuration of ubuntu that will install its own updates?
[20:32] <emjayess> one i'm about to retire :)
[20:32] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris: which display manager?
[20:32] <paolooo> @ThinkT510, thanks for the reply. That's my HD size. I'm planning to partition it, d: and e:
[20:32] <mrgenixus> I just need the critical ones, and a way to install a trigger that reboots the system at midnight if a kernel update was installed
[20:32] <livingdaylight> hi
[20:32] <emjayess> but, first i need to do some migrations and trying to admin the firewall, without messing it up
[20:33] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: The one that ships with ubuntu, I assume that's GDM still.
[20:33] <ThinkT510> paolooo: do you need a 200+gb root partition?
[20:33] <livingdaylight> I installed 'anarchism' from Synaptic but can't find it. How can I see where it was installed to?
[20:33] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  sec lemme try something
[20:34] <hirsty> could do with help asap :D will give any debug info required
[20:34] <mrgenixus> lightdm is the new Display Manager, by default ( davidrsmorris / NewWorld )
[20:35] <paolooo> @ThinkT510, hehehe, I'm new to ubuntu os, that's why I don't if I have correct partitioning. Can you please give an advice. Thank you.
[20:36] <ThinkT510> paolooo: how many OS's are you going to have on the disk?
[20:36] <paolooo> ThinkT510: just ubuntu
[20:36] <minimec> nooo: I guess the interfaces file is correct. Yet again I probably cannot help you with the dhcp3 server. Sorry.
[20:36] <ThinkT510> paolooo: any reason you have a swap partition inside an extended?
[20:36] <mrgenixus> well, have a good one
[20:36] <nooo> :<
[20:36] <lun0> Q3 TIME, plaga.upexia.nl
[20:37] <nooo> Im trying to run a tcpdump now to try to get a better idea of why its not working
[20:37] <CynepCupon> what does a swap partition do?
[20:37] <paolooo> ThinkT510: no, I just followed the installation tutorial in youtube.
[20:37] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  yeh killing Awm throws you out of X :P Just to make sure it's using ~/rc.lua , can you make a change to that becomes visible?
[20:37] <ThinkT510> paolooo: well it must be a bad tutorial if it suggests that layout
[20:38] <paolooo> ThinkT510: wew, yeah! she said it should be the twice of my RAM.
[20:39] <ThinkT510> paolooo: thats not the issue, why is it in an extended partition?
[20:39] <marsfligth> Dr_willis: and openvoid: Thanks for helping
[20:40] <paolooo> ThinkT510: I'm not really sure. :(
[20:40] <paolooo> ThinkT510: Should delete it?
[20:40] <nooo> my router is receiving the requests, I can see them with tcpdump, and it's sending the replies I think
[20:41] <minimec> nooo: How does this define the network range? range "<IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>;" Are these ips correct?
[20:41] <nooo> yes they are in the same subnet <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>/18)
[20:41] <ThinkT510> paolooo: its doing no harm, it just doesn't make any sense
[20:42] <CynepCupon> how can i tell if my graphics card is MUXed or MUXless?
[20:42] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: well, I successfully killed X, but I still can't call awesome.  It can't open the display.
[20:42] <paolooo> ThinkT510: ah I see, but I can remove it in the future right? using gparted?
[20:42] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Is that a new problem? Awesome won't start now?
[20:43] <ThinkT510> paolooo: you'd need to recreate the swap partition afterward but yeah
[20:43] <paolooo> ThinkT510: ah ok
[20:44] <livingdaylight> I installed 'anarchism' from Synaptic but can't find it. How can I see where it was installed to?
[20:44] <paolooo> ThinkT510: so what do you suggest now? Should I delete it? /sda1 and /sda5
[20:44] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: if it is a cli app it wouldn't show in the menus
[20:45] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: well, it's supposed to start by lightdm, so I'm going to reboot to get it up again.  But the thing is, $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is empty, and referred to in the awesome man, so I wonder if that's the problem.
[20:45] <nooo> ok, strange
[20:45] <ThinkT510> paolooo: up to you
[20:45] <nooo> I added a fixed address in the dhcpd.conf file and it worked for that machine
[20:45] <nooo> so why isn't it picking them from the range? O_o
[20:45] <paolooo> ThinkT510: but I just can't. delete option is disabled.
[20:46] <ThinkT510> paolooo: you have to delete the partition inside first
[20:46] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, is there a clever command which would tell me where on my system synaptic installed it?
[20:46] <minimec> nooo: Well at least you are 'isolating' the problem. I would call that a success...
[20:46] <ThinkT510> paolooo: to do that you need to swapoff if it is in use
[20:46] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, how would I launch it? is the other question. It didn't say that it was an app
[20:46] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  That's a really good idea. Define that var in /etc/profile
[20:46] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: i think you are thinking of windows layout
[20:47] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  define AND export
[20:47] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: type it from a terminal
[20:47] <nooo> minimec, indeed!
[20:47] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, command not found
[20:48] <Dr_willis> XDG_CONFIG_HOME would default to the users HOME directory i would think. or ~/.config
[20:48] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: how did you install it?
[20:48] <paolooo> ThinkT510: yes, I just deleted the partition: http://imm.io/zgrt
[20:48] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, synaptic
[20:48] <ThinkT510> !info anarchism
[20:48] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  and then reboot and it should be defined globally
[20:49] <minimec> noo if you use 'simple ranges' like this (for a change) "range <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>;"
[20:49] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, if you open synaptic and search, you'll find 'anarchism' It looks like info, so, don't know why its in synaptic. I was curious though, and installed it
[20:49] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: what is it meant to do?
[20:50] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, provide information?
[20:50] <minimec> nooo: see here... http://nwlinux.com/how-to-configure-dhcp3-server-in-ubuntu-server/
[20:50] <ghano> oran
[20:50] <minimec> nooo: in firefox <ctrl>f "This block will define" as search term...
[20:50] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: check if it has a man page
[20:51] <ghano> machicola
[20:51] <livingdaylight> man anarchism
[20:51] <nooo> minimec, thanks, the only new thing I see there is the 'allow unknown-clients'
[20:51] <nooo> looking that up now
[20:51] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, livingdaylight@voyager:~$ man anarchism No manual entry for anarchism
[20:52] <vbendeb> guys, anyone knows what
[20:52] <vbendeb> 's the deal with intermittent etherenet connectivity in 11.10?
[20:52] <Dr_willis> why not fire up synaptic and look at what files  the anarchism package installed.. if its some sort of books - the /usr/share/docs/ dir may be where its at
[20:53] <Dr_willis> samba-doc package also just installs a lot of books to one of the docs directories.
[20:53] <vbendeb> I experience 50% or so packet loss even pinging the local router
[20:53] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: Just made those changes, I'll reboot now
[20:54] <tomreyn> livingdaylight: i think the implementation is still missing, therE's only a set of documents so far.
[20:54] <livingdaylight> tomreyn, and where are they? I used commands 'locate' and 'which' but got nothing. I don't know where synaptic installed these docs to
[20:55] <tomreyn> dpkg -L anarchism
[20:55] <tomreyn> lists all files of this package
[20:57] <hjubal> What is the syntax to save the password value in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/XXX ?
[20:57] <subman> I don't seem to be able to get a folder to be writable from another computer over the network.  I have enabled sharing and can read files from the folder, but I cannot write to it.  Is there some hidden setting that I'm missing?
[20:57] <emjayess> ThinkT510: advice from #rhel indicates it to be an ubuntu vps virtualized (via openvz) over a custom rhel kernel (so, administer as ubuntu)
[20:57] <CynepCupon> is it possible that openSUSE will be better for gaming on a laptop?
[20:58] <sprink> in aptitude, when I do a search, how can I search for exactly "ruby", and not "ruby-blah blah"
[20:58] <sprink> There's like a billion ruby packages, but I just want to look at the information for the "ruby" package
[20:58] <sprink> is there some way to tell aptitude to be exact?
[20:59] <livingdaylight> tomreyn, thank you. I knew there had to be a command which shows where synaptic installed what it installed
[20:59] <livingdaylight> tomreyn, what does the -L mean?
[21:00] <zelesnikar101> need help! my touchpad is not working in 12.04 its an elantech touchpad! it is detected and has driver but it does not respond to any input!
[21:00] <tomreyn> livingdaylight: I guess it stands for "list", but the man page may tell you, or --help
[21:00] <zelesnikar101> any suggestions?
[21:01] <livingdaylight> tomreyn, how did you know to use dpkg -L ?
[21:01] <zelesnikar101> i used apt-get install
[21:02] <tomreyn> sprink: i'm not using apritude these days, i have the feeling it's deprecated, but if i recall correctly, it uses regular expression syntax for the search.
[21:02] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: my awesome came back up after the reboot... with nothing different at all.  And I remembered to export that variable, it's visible from my term.
[21:02] <tomreyn> sprink: meaning that ^ruby$ or ruby$ _may_ get you what you are looking for
[21:03] <tomreyn> livingdaylight: i've used dpkg for a while. it's a basic debian / ubuntu utility.
[21:03] <sprink> tomreyn: perfect. thank you
[21:03] <sprink> that worked
[21:04] <NewWorld> XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/home/danb/.config , XDG_CACHE_HOME=/home/danb/.cache . Like that? Dunno if no cache dir is what's breaking it. But whenever something in my rc.lua is messed up, awesome throws me back to the default RC
[21:04] <tomreyn> livingdaylight: and if you run "man dpkg" or "dpkg --help",  which works with most commands, you'll see what options are supported
[21:04] <livingdaylight> tomreyn, thx
[21:05] <tomreyn> sprink + livingdaylight: you're welcome
[21:05] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Check msg ^^ . Also, can yo umake a visible change in ~/rc.lua and reload to see if that rc.lua is the one that's used or not?
[21:05] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: the menu change and delightful widgets would have popped up.
[21:06] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  so it seems that it's using /etc/xdg/awesome/rc.lua instead?
[21:06] <xrq> I have a monitor (catleap yamakasi Q270), with 2560x1440 @100mhz. ubuntu can't detect *any* resolution, how do I force this settingt?
[21:07] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I feel like making a visible change to /etc/xdg/awesome/rc.lua to test that theory.
[21:08] <emjayess> so, a follow up question to anyone who might have been paying attention? if i have an ubuntu vps virtualized via openvz on a rhel host, will i be able to admin iptables like I'm used to? or shouldnt' I even try
[21:09] <brophat> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:markus-tisof/rt3090 returns cannot access PPA please check internet connection
[21:09] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: It indeed is still loading the global one.
[21:11] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I've had a thought. Check `ps -elf | grep awesome` and see what user runs it? maybe root?
[21:13] <pmdz> Hi all. My 64bit installation of Ubuntu can see only 3.2GB of RAM out of 4GB. Graphic cards is Intel HD3000. Any ideas why?
[21:13] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I think it'll just be easier to change the global file.  Noone else uses this system.
[21:13] <davidrsmorris> And I have other wms and am keeping a backup.
[21:13] <DJones> pmdz: Shared graphics with the Intel card?
[21:14] <DJones> !atemyram | pmdz This may have some pointers as well,
[21:14] <tomreyn> pmdz: either what DJones said or you installed a 32 bit variant
[21:14] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I was gonna suggest that, but check if you have an stderr / stdout file like I do in ~/.cache/awesome
[21:14] <pmdz> pmd@daftbook:~$ uname -a
[21:14] <pmdz> Linux daftbook 3.2.0-29-generic #46+kamal5~DellXPS-Ubuntu SMP Sun Jul 29 18:49:08 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:15] <tomreyn> pmdz: okay that indeed looks like 64 bit
[21:15] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  see you are missing those and the rest of the files in directories ~/.config/awesome and ~/.cache/awesome
[21:16] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: Well, that broke it.  But the syntax is fine.
[21:17] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  what broke?
[21:17] <davidrsmorris> Moving my rc.lua to the global one broke awesome.  SO I think I'll copy the backup back there.
[21:18] <tomreyn> pmdz: that's a custom built kernel image, based on ubuntu's generic one, right? have you tried to run the original ubuntu one?
[21:19] <tomreyn> pmdz: and finally, how do you "see" your RAM?
[21:19] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I'm really curious, could you check which user owns process awesome? root?
[21:19] <vbendeb1> guys, anyone knows what's the deal with intermittent IP connectivity on Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:19] <vbendeb1> It looses 50% of the ping packets or so even when pinging the local gateway
[21:20] <vbendeb1> the same machine over the same interface is perfectly fine when running Windows...
[21:20] <blz> Hello, I'm looking for an open source network music player.  I have an XBMC box setup in one room and I'd like to access the *music only* in another room.  Any suggestions?
[21:20] <DJones> pmdz: Try running this command to see how much memory is being used by the graphics card, mine says AGP aperture is 256M and when I check memory, I see 3.7 out of 4gb which makes sense -> dmesg | grep AGP
[21:21] <blz> It should go without saying that it should run on ubuntu ;-)
[21:21] <pmdz> tomreyn: I tried stock kernel, same situation. free -m, top, htop - every tool is reportin 3.2GB
[21:21] <zelesnikar101> need help! my touchpad is not working in 12.04 its an elantech touchpad! it is detected and has driver but it does not respond to any input!
[21:21] <pmdz> DJones: agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe0000000
[21:22] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: dmorris  13832  0.1  0.2 158552  8772 ?        Ss   17:19   0:00 awesome
[21:22] <louiemat> What is the best way to file share between to ubuntu machines?
[21:22] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I think it knows it would fail, and so loads the global one -- I had to use the unity wm to fix that.
[21:23] <tomreyn> pmdz: does this report the same meory usage by your intel GPU? sudo lspci -knnv | grep -A10 VGA
[21:23] <anonbit> hey there folks, was wondering if I could get some help with an issue I started having after updating to 12. Immediately after updating all of my active torrents stopped and I started getting a "Tracker gave HTTP response code 0 (No Response)
[21:23] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I agree. Whenever I loaded a broken rc.lua it used the default one. Probably those delicious widgets :P
[21:23] <tomreyn> pmdz: maybe opst that output and also that of 'free -m'
[21:23] <tomreyn> *post
[21:24] <CynepCupon> is it ok to upgrade to kernel 3.4.7????
[21:24] <tomreyn> ...on a pastebin, not here
[21:24] <NewWorld> louiemat:  To just send files over? Or have a shared hard drives? So it would be like accessing a normal folder - just over a network?
[21:24] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I'll try commenting out those widgets then adding them one by one if it loads.
[21:24] <pmdz> tomreyn: http://pastebin.com/Di7FTjkG
[21:25] <louiemat> Shared hard drives accessed like normal folders.
[21:25] <zorael> How can I regenerate /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin?
[21:25] <DJones> pmdz: Try "sudo lshw" you should get something like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/171881/only-3-2gb-ram-out-of-4gb-usable-on-64bit-installation-dell-xps-13
[21:26] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Btw so you get dirs like ~/.cache/awesome , here is a list of my XDG vars that were there automatically since yours seem to be missing. Maybe you can adapt them: http://pastebin.com/ddPaiwr3
[21:26] <zorael> (nevermind, dist-upgrade fixed it)
[21:26] <louiemat> NewWorld: Share hard drives accessed like normal folders.
[21:26] <NewWorld> louiemat:  samba
[21:26] <pmdz> DJones, actually question that you pasted is posted by me
[21:26] <louiemat> NewWorld: Thanks very much!
[21:26] <NewWorld> np)
[21:27] <DJones> pmdz: Ah, didn't notice that that, my 4gb system gives the same response to lshw but I see 3.7gb available
[21:27] <Sinusoidal> How do I upgrade my mono runtime to 2.8? The software center has an older version
[21:27] <pmdz> DJones, trust me, I will not digg around for answer If I will se 3.7 GB :) but I think 800GB reserved by system is way too much
[21:29] <CynepCupon> is it recommended to keep kernel 3.2?
[21:29] <DJones> pmdz: Just saw in another thread, somebody with same issue on a dell inspiron was using an old bios which had a wrong memory map, causing the bios to only recognise 3.2Gb of the installed 4gb
[21:29] <CynepCupon> or can i upgrade to 3.4.7?
[21:29] <tomreyn> DJones: THIS OTHER THREAD WAS POSTED BY THE SAME PERSON ;)
[21:29] <pmdz> DJones, my bios is newest available and reporting 4096 MB of RAM
[21:30] <tomreyn> whoops sorry about the caps
[21:30] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I'm gonna also undo the change to my /etc/profile... that's sure to mess something up.
[21:30] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  They point to the right place? What would they mess up?
[21:31] <DJones> pmdz: Seems odd, I'd be tempted to try a livecd of another distro to see if it can be narrowed down to ubuntu or hardware
[21:31] <tomreyn> pmdz: your output looks fine, i have no explanation other than a kernel issue. have you reviewed the logs?
[21:31] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I guess I'm just being superstitious.
[21:31] <tomreyn> pmdz: yes, try grml or similar
[21:32] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I think logically, if anything else after /etc/profile want to set that var it will just supersede it
[21:33] <pmdz> tomreyn, nope, I wasn't reviewing the logs, I'm too newbie to read them. I can post dmesg output if you wish to read it.
[21:34] <pmdz> tomreyn, DJones: thank you guys for helping. I will try some live distros, and depending on result the next step will depend on results. Hope to see explanation fast since Ubuntu will support my laptop officially in close future (Dell XPS 13, see project sputnik)
[21:34] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: yup, and it looks like it was my delightful widgets.  Thanks, I'll be looking through those very carefully.
[21:35] <pmdz> tomreyn, DJones: omg, what a mess I wrote. Hope you get the point :) thanks again
[21:35] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  why did this problem take so long to fix? XD
[21:35] <tomreyn> pmdz: /var/log/kern.log is what yuou should look into, not so much dmesg in this case
[21:36] <tomreyn> pmdz: but, yes, try another distro's live cd first, just to see whether it's generic
[21:36] <hjubal> Why if I select "Wireless --> security" different from "None" then "Save" button get disabled?
[21:37] <tomreyn> pmdz: try ones with very different kernel versions, and if you can reproduce it on all of them, try on a different OS, too. e.g. there's windows live CD's (based on Bart PE) which could work for this, too.
[21:39] <theadmin> Anybody know if Muon (in Kubuntu) grants access to everything that the Gnome version's Software Center does?
[21:39] <cypher-neo> theadmin: Yes, it does
[21:40] <shadaloo> hi
[21:40] <theadmin> cypher-neo: Including the paid stuff? Because that's what interests me, I see no "Paid applications" group
[21:40] <shadaloo> my ubuntu distro upgrade froze during install and the sytem doesn't start anymore
[21:40] <cypher-neo> theadmin: The only things that are not included in Muon are the paid advertising packages that USC pushes on every page.
[21:40] <shadaloo> is there a key shortcut for recovery console?
[21:40] <shadaloo> my screen just goes blank during startup
[21:41] <Alycat> Could somebody help me access the internet please?
[21:41] <cypher-neo> theadmin: And why would there be a paid section? Kubuntu is no longer supported by Canonical.
[21:41] <klj613> with 'screen'. how do i delete a session/screen.
[21:41] <cypher-neo> theadmin: You can install the USC on Kubuntu though if you need to.
[21:41] <BluesKaj> shadaloo, hold the left shift down right afte the bios scrn
[21:41] <theadmin> shadaloo: AFter your BIOS POST, hold Left Shift, there is a "Recovery mode" entry in the Grub menu which'll appear
[21:41] <theadmin> cypher-neo: Thanks, that's all I needed to know
[21:41] <shadaloo> theadmin righteous
[21:41] <tomreyn> shadaloo: hold down shift during boot, then from the menu select the recovery option
[21:42] <tomreyn> oops i'm late
[21:42] <minimec> shadaloo: can you start the system with the old kernel? --> press left "shift" button after the bios boot screen of your computer.
[21:42] <Alycat> *I am on my Windows 7 laptop. I need help getting the internet on my desktop, which I just installed Ubuntu on.
[21:42] <BluesKaj> I guess the left shift is unanimous then :)
[21:43] <cipi> hi
[21:43] <hjubal> klj613, just logout the console
[21:43] <devtekalpha> I think you need to look up what internal wificard your laptop has and find the linux driver
[21:43] <cipi> do you speak freanch plese
[21:43] <Alycat> There is no wifi card. I'm on a LAN network.
[21:43] <BluesKaj> !fr | cipi
[21:44] <klj613> lol. thanks.
[21:44] <cipi> lol
[21:45] <Alycat> Okay, this is unhelpful. Is there a phone number I can call to get personalized service?
[21:45] <BluesKaj> cipi, lol?
[21:45] <tomreyn> yes there's commercial support available from canonical
[21:45] <tomreyn> amongst other
[21:45] <BluesKaj> !volunteers
[21:46] <Alycat> I was unaware that these are volunteers. Pardon me for being frustrated. Thank you for you help!
[21:47] <klj613> on 'screen -list' the list is ugly, is there anyway to set title for each screen session? i've stried ctrl+a A but doesnt affect the list
[21:49] <pleclerc38> hi
[21:49] <pleclerc38> je peut avoir de laide svp
[21:49] <theadmin> So, I heard Aptitude on Ubuntu is pretty much broken when working with multiarch, is that so?
[21:49] <theadmin> !fr | pleclerc38
[21:49] <hirsty> Good evening gurus my wireless i have finally got running :D
[21:49] <pleclerc38> !fr
[21:50] <theadmin> hirsty: Congratulations, anything else we can help with?
[21:50] <hirsty> now another problem..........my Microsoft wireless mouse keeps freezing after a while -_-
[21:50] <hirsty> Microsoft Wireless Mouse 1000
[21:51] <hirsty> however, my wireless keyboard on the same transceiver seems to work fine regardless
[21:51] <theadmin> hirsty: Have you tried removing the accursed Microsoft logo? (just kidding, don't mess with your mouse lol)
[21:51] <hirsty> im assuming ubuntu cant wake it from a sleep state or something
[21:52] <theadmin> hirsty: Actually I have experienced random mouse freezes in Ubuntu even with wired devices, but that was ages ago (10.04)
[21:52] <ozpy> Hello. I run ubuntu 12.10. Unity does not start when I initialize. I have to go to the terminal and run it from there
[21:52] <hirsty> well this happens like 10 minutes in and the only fix ive found so far is a reboot.....and yea...thats annoying
[21:53] <ascheel> LVM question.  Is it possible to add a 3TB partition to an LVM pv?
[21:53] <tomreyn> ozpy: Ubuntu 12.10 is not released, yet.
[21:53] <minimec> ozpy: Try #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 questions
[21:54] <ozpy> thanks
[21:55] <tomreyn> hirsty: try plugging the transceiver into another usb port, like on the back of your PC if it's a desktop, or the other side of your notebook if it is one. this can help.
[21:55] <theadmin> ascheel: I'm not sure, but I honestly don't see why not, as long as that size does not exceed your filesystem's limits. And I have no idea what the limits are.
[21:55] <tomreyn> hirsty: also consider using the PS connector of the transceiver, this almost always helps in such cases.
[21:56] <manas_b> hi. I am having difficulty with getting a microphone to work. is there somewhere that i can check if the microphone is muted?
[21:56] <theadmin> hirsty: Are you on a laptop (notebook)? If so, do you have a touchpad? If so, try disabling it. Somehow, this helped with the mouse problems I had back on 10.04
[21:56] <ascheel> theadmin: the confusion is that you can't label a partition as lvm if it's >2tb.  I think i can still add a GPT partition to an LVM pv, though.
[21:56] <NewWorld> manas_b:  try `alsamixer`
[21:56] <hirsty> no i am on a custom built desktop
[21:57] <theadmin> manas_b: Run "alsamixer" on the terminal, look for things that say "MM". Scroll to them with arrows, press "m" and then hold the up arrow. Mics seem to be muted by default.
[21:57] <hirsty> and have tried turning the mouse off and on changing usb port whilst still logged in
[21:57] <hirsty> and as it stands i do not have a ps2 to usb converter
[21:57] <hirsty> is there a more permenant fix that you know of?
[21:57] <manas_b> NewWorld: theadmin: I will try that
[21:59] <manas_b> i have changed the three things under "capture" to full volume. i am still not able to record voice in sound recorder
[21:59] <tomreyn> hirsty: not off the top of my head. look into power management. or try a newer kernel version.
[22:00] <NewWorld> manas_b:  In Capture (F4) try changing input source to your mic
[22:00] <brophat> supposedly 12.04 fixed the rt3090 chipset problems yet my connections runs slow and sometimes disconnects
[22:00] <tomreyn> hirsty: also what theadmin said about turning off touchpad is worth a try
[22:01] <NewWorld> manas_b:  And makes sure that Capture sliders are activated (with spacebar)
[22:01] <hirsty> its a PC
[22:01] <manas_b> how do i do that, NewWorld?
[22:01] <tomreyn> hirsty: oh right :)
[22:01] <brophat> and the network manager says the driver being used is rt2800pci
[22:01] <NewWorld> manas_b:  for Input Source slider Up/Down
[22:01] <hirsty> and there it goes again :/
[22:02] <moment> hey guys how do i find out what package manager is installed on linux
[22:02] <tomreyn> hirsty: is this a new development? has this happened before?
[22:02] <hirsty> hmm?
[22:02] <tomreyn> moment: if you're on ubuntu then your package manager is dpkg
[22:02] <hirsty> its been happening since i installed
[22:03] <tomreyn> hirsty: i'm wondering whether this happens with other ubntu / other linux distro / other OS versions, too
[22:03] <Rpley> dpkg, oh course
[22:04] <zorael> Anyone using fcitx? I can't make sense of some of the settings
[22:04] <tomreyn> hirsty: ...with the same hardware / firmware configuration
[22:04] <hydrox24> hirsty: does the mouse still appear (or does the receiver) in the output of lsusb?
[22:04] <manas_b> NewWorld: I changed where it says capture to be 'Mic'. I am using sound recorder to test, still no voice.
[22:04] <CynepCupon> how can i tell if i have a MUXed or MUX-less video card?
[22:05] <NewWorld> manas_b: what kind of mic is it? USB? Internal laptop mic?
[22:05] <manas_b> NewWorld: it is a simple mic, it attaches to the microphone jack on the back of my computer
[22:06] <zachP> Thanks for the help all, night
[22:06] <NewWorld> manas_b:  Could you take a screenshot of your alsamixer in the Capture view?
[22:08] <manas_b> NewWorld: http://manas-0.no-ip.org/png/alsamixer.png
[22:08] <klj613> i ssh with -X. can open chromium (as its not already open) but firefox is. anychance i can open up a pre-existing browser? so i can look at tabs etc. (i assume this is a no but want to make sure).
[22:10] <manas_b> I have used this mic on another computer and I believe it is fully functional
[22:11] <NewWorld> manas_b:  hmmmm sorry I'm out of ideas on how to troubleshoot this
[22:11] <manas_b> i appreciate the help
[22:12] <xrq`> I'm trying to set up a new monitor. right before the login screen the monitor goes black.  I've tried a manual setting for GRUB_GFXMODE in /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/00_header but still no luck.  how do I get my monitor working?
[22:15] <xrq`> !monitor
[22:16] <claque> monitor
[22:16] <claque> !monitor
[22:16] <claque> what
[22:16] <tomreyn> CynepCupon: you'd need to ask your hardware vendor to know for sure. But you can also just try whether Ubuntu detected that you have a MUXed one. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[22:22] <HaltingState> I cannot watch movies in full screen and i cant prevent the screen from being maximized
[22:22] <HaltingState> the launcher is going over the movie in full screen and its resizing the window when i defocus
[22:25] <hydrox24> HaltingState: are you talking about youtube?
[22:26] <HaltingState> OMFG I hate Unity!!! I am watching video in mplayer and i set it to a size and then it is resizing it maximize when i defocus
[22:26] <HaltingState> and this happens in other apps too; like sublime
[22:26] <HaltingState> and i cant play video in fullscreen either in mplayer because unity sidebar pops out
[22:26] <HaltingState> i went in CCSM and i disabled everything and UNITY is still resizing my windows; this is unusable
[22:28] <klj613> penis
[22:29] <brophat> I did an apt-get update and it W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/markus-tisoft/rt3090/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[22:30] <Dr_willis> as a test. try making a new user and see if the issue also affects them HaltingState
[22:30] <Dr_willis> brophat,  that ppa seems to be down, or has been removed
[22:30] <spectrumfever> hello
[22:30] <HaltingState> Dr_willis, how do i create a new user
[22:30] <Dr_willis> sudo adduser billgates
[22:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:30] <tomreyn> brophat: you have configured a PPA which is not/no longer working
[22:31] <brophat> how do I find out if it is just temp down or perm down?
[22:31] <Dr_willis> look at the ppa's homepage perhaps.
[22:31] <spectrumfever> have a little problem with gens and kega fusion on the newest ubuntu. I get no menus at all with it. Here is a screenshot i took. http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg576/preston1975/Screenshotfrom2012-08-04232241.png
[22:32] <torched_platypi> am I connected to this right?
[22:32] <spectrumfever> I hope someone can help as its doing my head in lol
[22:32] <Dr_willis> spectrumfever,  you could try disabling the global menu with spefific apps. I forget the exact way to do it. but the webupd8 site i recall showed how. You export a variable befor you run the app via the cli.
[22:32] <torched_platypi> oh hi. excellent, I think I got my IRC working.
[22:32] <addon> how can i have all the priveleges on a specific folder on an account?
[22:32] <manas_b> hello torched_platypi
[22:33] <torched_platypi> hi. I am glad I managed to get IRC working.
[22:33] <manas_b> irc can be difficult
[22:33] <tomreyn> spectrumfever: start here: https://launchpad.net/~markus-tisoft
[22:33] <n2deep> On 12.04, How do I stop the update-manager GUI from trying to upgrade a package I need to hold back at a specific version?
[22:33] <tomreyn> spectrumfever: it doesn't seem to exist anymore, though
[22:33] <spectrumfever> ok thank you
[22:34] <torched_platypi> yeah. took me a sec to figure out servers vs. channels
[22:34] <spectrumfever> damn
[22:34] <cipi> re
[22:34] <cipi> slt
[22:34] <cipi> sa va
[22:34] <brophat> tomreyn that is too bad cause that was supposed to be the fix for my crapy hardly working rt3090 wifi network chipset
[22:34] <cipi> and you
[22:34] <spectrumfever> some distros i can run these emulators but in others i get this all the time
[22:34] <Dr_willis> export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=    && appname
[22:34] <cipi> what are you doing ?
[22:34] <Dr_willis> would set the global menu off for that specific app.
[22:34] <spectrumfever> ah ok i will try that now
[22:34] <Dr_willis> APPMENU_DISPLAY_BOTH=1 digikam
[22:35] <addon> how can i have all the priveleges for a specific folder on an account?
[22:35] <Dr_willis> might also work.. :)
[22:35] <manas_b> do you use ubuntu torched_platypi
[22:35] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/67767/how-do-you-disable-the-global-menu-in-digikam
[22:35] <torched_platypi> i dual boot it with windows7
[22:35] <tomreyn> spectrumfever: brophat: https://launchpad.net/~markus-tisoft/+archive/rt3090/
[22:35] <tomreyn> << was blind
[22:35] <n2deep> Dr_willis: does that go in my ~/.bashrc file??
[22:36] <manas_b> nice setup
[22:36] <tomreyn> spectrumfever: brophat: it's no longer supported, though
[22:36] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu/133005#133005
[22:36] <Dr_willis> n2deep,  you can test it from a shell.
[22:36] <brophat> tomreyn how is it possible that the rt3090 chipset is supported by the manufacturer but does not work in ubuntu?
[22:37] <Dr_willis> brophat,  bug in the kernel i would imagine.
[22:37] <brophat> tomreyn ralink supplies the sourcecode
[22:37] <n2deep> Dr_willis: thank you, I will look at that.
[22:38] <n2deep> Dr_willis: the udev update that just went out is broken, so I'm trying to hold that back without having to remebre to uncheck the box everytime.
[22:39] <n2deep> its kind of a big deal, udev. I hope there is a patch soon.
[22:39] <brophat> Dr_willis wouldn't I be able to get the driver for the rt3090 in the software center?
[22:39] <medeman> Hey there!
[22:39] <addon> hi how can i have all the priveleges for a specific folder on an account?
[22:39] <medeman> I have a problem with the trackpad in an ASUS EEEPC
[22:40] <Dr_willis> !permissions | addon
[22:40] <medeman> The X101H model of the EeePC
[22:40] <medeman> The cursor is going around randomly sometimes.
[22:41] <addon> Dr_willis:thanks
[22:41] <tomreyn> brophat: it's supported, the code is even mainline, i.e. no need to install any drivers.
[22:41] <medeman> That problem first happened with 11.10 after a few weeks, then I thought that it might be fixed in 12.04, so I upgraded to that version. The problem was gone. However, now the problem started again...
[22:41] <medeman> Any ideas how to fix that?
[22:42] <brophat> tomreyn then why does my wifi work like junk?
[22:42] <tomreyn> brophat: the kernel module is rt2800pci. you do need the firmware blob, though.
[22:42] <tomreyn> brophat: have a look at this, might help you: https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800pci
[22:42] <brophat> tomreyn my wifi manager is showing rt2800pci is the driver being used
[22:43] <tomreyn> brophat: do you have the firmware installed?
[22:43] <brophat> tomreyn I never installed any firmware no
[22:43] <brophat> tomreyn how do I do that?
[22:44] <medeman> Anyone?
[22:46] <brophat> tomreyn what is it called that I need to do? get the firmware for the rt3090 chipset?
[22:46] <zh> When I run $PATH the output ends with "No such file or directory." Is that in reference to the last path in the list? If so, I have this path, what's going wrong?
[22:47] <Dr_willis> zh,  run? $PATH is a system variable..
[22:47] <Dr_willis> echo $PATH
[22:47] <medeman> No one to help me?
[22:47] <iza> ja
[22:47] <iza> siema
[22:47] <tomreyn> brophat: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[22:48] <zh> Dr_willis: Thanks. Lesson learned. :)
[22:48] <brophat> tomreyn and then reboot and I am done?
[22:48] <medeman> Guys,
[22:48] <tomreyn> brophat: you shouldn't need to reboot, but this should work, yes
[22:48] <medeman> I need help^^
[22:49] <iza> hey
[22:49] <tomreyn> brophat: i'm assuming you're on ubuntu 12.04 all along btw.
[22:49] <iza> how about that ?
[22:49] <brophat> tomreyn yes haha :)
[22:50] <brophat> tomreyn so after that command a reboot and I am done?
[22:50] <iza> gan ce gal
[22:50] <iza> hey merval
[22:50] <medeman> Guess I'll ask again tomorrow then
[22:51] <tomreyn> brophat: it's worth a try. i don't have any experience with this driver since i tend to buy hardware which is well supported on linux
[22:52] <n2deep> The correct way to tell the update-manager GUI to keep a package at a specific version forever is to open synaptic package manager and select the package, then from the menu choose, "lock version"
[22:52] <brophat> tomreyn I would pay a thousand bucks for the book you got that tells you the well supported hardware
[22:52] <n2deep> update-manager will honor what you force in synaptic. Which is really nice!!
[22:53] <HaltingState> Dr_willis, i fixed it; you have to disable snapping windows and the other one in ccsm
[22:54] <HaltingState> place windows and snapping windows
[22:54] <tomreyn> brophat: find 5 others like you and pass half the money in advance and i'll write it. ;-)
[22:54] <brophat> tomreyn what I don't understand is that command seems to be installing all non free firmware. so how does that new firmware for my rt3090 know to go to my card?
[22:54] <Dr_willis> HaltingState,  cant say ive had any issues with snapping windows. ;)
[22:54] <tomreyn> brophat: alternatively you could save your money and just look on the web.
[22:55] <brophat> tomreyn looking on the web does not save money because of the opportunity cost
[22:55] <brophat> the 300 hours it takes to make ubuntu work, it turns out to cost the same as windows bwahahaha
[22:55] <merval> 300 hours?
[22:55] <Yvan256> Test
[22:55] <brophat> tomreyn ok i am gonna reboot
[22:56] <brophat> merval i been trying to get this rt3090 to work for a long time
[22:56] <Yvan256> Hello, I need help to burn a bootable Ubuntu ISO from Mac OS X. Can anyone tell me how?
[22:56] <tomreyn> brophat: so this firmware package installs several different firmwares to your hard disk. when the kernel driver starts up it looks whether this firmware is present. if it is, it uses it. if it is not, it may try to do things as well as it can.
[22:58] <tomreyn> Yvan256: this sounds like an OS X question to me. I would assume you'd insert the blank cdrom / dvd, a cd logo would display on your launcher, and you could drag and drop the iso image to it. but that's just a guess, i hardly know OS X, and this is #ubuntu ;)
[22:59] <tomreyn> i bet there is something like #osx
[22:59] <merval> brophat I had that same kind of issue with a broadcom card on my laptop a few years ago, recent versions of ubuntu find it no problem now
[22:59] <tomreyn> merval: try again, he was gone
[22:59] <devtekalpha> Im trying to install a torrent client called transmission but i get error: dpkg dependency problem prevents configuration.... Transmission deoends on transmission-gtk(+/=2.61-0ubuntu1) does this mean if i install gtk 3 it will work?
[23:00] <merval> brophat I had that same kind of issue with a broadcom card on my laptop a few years ago, recent versions of ubuntu find it no problem now
 brophat: so this firmware package installs several different firmwares to your hard disk. when the kernel driver starts up it looks whether this firmware is present. if it is, it uses it. if it is not, it may try to do things as well as it can.
[23:00] <Yvan256> Okay then, Ubuntu question... is there any media server program compatible with iTunes? ex: have a Ubuntu server that can serve files to an AppleTV, etc.
[23:01] <merval> RhythmBox is the best thing I've seen to iTunes.
[23:01] <Yvan256> not looking for DRM-compatibility, only the media server/client side of things
[23:01] <Yvan256> I'd rather install Ubuntu on my mother's laptop then subject her to Vista once again
[23:02] <tomreyn> Yvan256: i did that, and it works well for both of us for some years now.
[23:02] <brophat> tomreyn well my wifi is still wroking crappy
[23:02] <brophat> tomreyn you sure firmware for my rt3090 was in that list of firmware that I downloaded?
[23:03] <tomreyn> brophat: i'm not
[23:04] <Yvan256> tomreyn: you did what that works well?
[23:04] <kantian> devtep: you might consider 'Deluge' as an alternate torrent clinet
[23:05] <dpupp> Hi, Im running ubuntu 12.04 and I am having issues running my bluetooth Targus mouse.  It shows as connected but it is not pairing. I was wondering what I can do to trouble shoot this?
[23:05] <kantian> jianfi hi
[23:05] <tomreyn> brophat: sorry, wrong package. i'll look into it.
[23:06] <tomreyn> Yvan256: install ubuntu on my mom's laptop
[23:06] <tomreyn> and remotely support her from time to time
[23:06] <Yvan256> tomreyn: ah ok, thanks
[23:06] <Yvan256> why is the ISO 700MB when a regular CD-R is only 650MB?
[23:08] <Yvan256> All I have to burn the ISO is either 650MB CD-Rs or 4.7GB DVD-Rs. Will it work anyway?
[23:08] <tomreyn> brophat: the package you need is just linux-firmware, not linux-firmware-nonfree.
[23:08] <tomreyn> brophat: but i assume you already have the linux-firmware package installed
[23:09] <brophat> tomreyn cool bro so what is the command I use?
[23:09] <brophat> tomreyn it is ok i installed the non free maybe now some other stuff will work better bwahahaha
[23:10] <tomreyn> brophat: ro see if you already have it:  dpkg -l linux-firmware | tail -n1
[23:10] <brophat> I get ii  linux-firmware                         1.79                                       Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
[23:11] <brophat> tomreyn does that mean I have it?
[23:11] <tomreyn> brophat: it's already installed.
[23:11] <brophat> tomreyn so is that it? wifi is working as best it can on linux?
[23:13] <JohnTeddy> Is there an explanation anywhere why the partitions are the way they are by default on Ubuntu?
[23:13] <JohnTeddy> eg, swap, boot, /home, etc
[23:14] <Vlan> sorry guys, how do i show grub at the startup to choose recovey mode? ESC doesnt work...
[23:14] <brophat> tomreyn can you recommend a good pcie or mini pcie wifi network card for ubuntu
[23:14] <gvo> vlan hold left shift key down.
[23:14] <Vlan> gvo: thank you i will try that now
[23:15] <brophat> anybody can you recommend a decent not too expensive pcie or mini pcie wifi network card  that definitely is well supported by ubuntu?
[23:16] <tomreyn> brophat: not off the top off my hat. i didn't need to buy one lately, and now you'd probably want a proper 802.11n one.
[23:16] <davidrsmorris> Hey, anyone still here who uses Awesome?  I'm looking for debug information.
[23:16] <merval> brophat I've not had much experience with wireless on ubuntu. I have a USB 54g wireless I use from time to time but it just works when I plug it in.
[23:18] <brophat> merval i was looking for a specific make and model
[23:18] <Vlan> gvo: unfortunately i just get a prompt for half a second ad then it loads the desktop
[23:18] <Vlan> i'm using 12.04
[23:18] <brophat> tomreyn yeah for sure 802.11 n, and another twist now with ubuntu is you gotta worry bout 32bit or 64bit
[23:18] <merval> brophat have you checked the Supported hardware help page?
[23:18] <tomreyn> brophat: start by finding a good driver and chipset. then look for products including this chipset. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers#Linux
[23:19] <gvo> Vlan Don't just press it, hold it down
[23:19] <brophat> merval that hardware page will say someting works even if it barely works
[23:19] <brophat> tomreyn yeah easier said than done
[23:19] <Vlan> gvo: i've hold it down for like 2 minutes, is it possible that i have no grub installed?
[23:20] <tomreyn> brophat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWireless
[23:20] <tomreyn> brophat: and for your current hardware: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WirelessTroubleshootingProcedure
[23:20] <brophat> tomreyn been there done that
[23:21] <tomreyn> brophat: all of it?
[23:21] <brophat> tomreyn i think the elephant in the room is that lets face it, hardware manufacturers don't support linux, therefor, we are toast
[23:21] <gvo> vlan If you saw it come up for a half second it's there. I have never had that problem.
[23:21] <merval> brophat I feel your pain man.. I was in your shoes about 3 years ago.
[23:21] <tomreyn> brophat: nah that's wrong
[23:22] <merval> it's not that were toast.
[23:22] <merval> Dev's will write drivers for hardware. it just takes time
[23:22] <brophat> merval i think we all need to form a circle, get on our knees and just realize hardware manufacturers don't support linux. game over
[23:22] <DethSone> my Ubuntu just randomly logged itself out, but un-like all the other times it keeps logging itself out, it wasn't under any full-screen graphics environment, is there some sorta log I can access?
[23:23] <davidrsmorris> Or we could picket hardware driver writers with bricks as signs.
[23:23] <merval> it's no upto the hardware mfg though brophat. People can write drivers for hardware.
[23:23] <brophat> I think what linux needs to do is have specific linux hardware, and if yu want to use linux then you gotta buy this hardware, much like apple does
[23:23] <brophat> I think linux should adopt the apple model
[23:23] <tomreyn> lol
[23:23] <merval> brophat, 90% of apple hardware is designed by apple to run apple. that's why it works so well.
[23:23] <gvo> brophat: fud
[23:23] <Yvan256> thanks for the help, gotta run
[23:23] <Qualia> So while using 'mv' utility, how do I type my current folder ?
[23:23] <brophat> merval exactly and that is what linux should do
[23:24] <tomreyn> Qualia: .
[23:24] <merval> Mac OS X = Spin off of neXT OS = Spin off of BSD = Type of Unix
[23:24] <brophat> but of course you can always try your own hardware, but however, have official linux hardware
[23:24] <davidrsmorris> Qualia: you shouldn't need to.  If you type without beginning with a /, it will be a relative path, and each folder contains a folder called ".." which is its parent.
[23:26] <brophat> ok, at least be better at listing what hardware definitely works
[23:26] <Qualia> davidrsmorris, yeah but moving a file from my home folder to the current folder, it doesnt work
[23:26] <Qualia> mv ~/myfile.c <current folder>
[23:27] <brophat> cause as it is now if a network cared is supposed to provide speeds of 10 mb/s and linux gets you 1 bit/s it will go down as supported bahahahahaha
[23:27] <merval> something I always dislike about Operating Systems is the fact that some of them are designed for people who want stuff to just work. While you have other operating systems that can be tweaked and hacked and made to do whatever you want them to do but you get people who want them to simply work trying to use it and then you end up with frustration and people walking away from such an amazing operating system.
[23:27] <davidrsmorris> Qualia: mv ~/myfile.c myMovedFile.c
[23:27] <Qualia> i should type the name again ?
[23:27] <Qualia> :(
[23:28] <brophat> merval the only reason I have not walked away from linux is because where I am going to go?
[23:28] <davidrsmorris> qualia: when using mv, you always have to type out the full filename for the target (destination).  You can use that to rename files, too.
[23:28] <gvo> Qualia: . is the current folder/directory.
[23:28] <Qualia> great
[23:29] <Qualia> dot!
[23:29] <gvo> Yes
[23:29] <merval> brophat do what I did for my wife. Buy a used Mac
[23:29] <Qualia> i appreciate your help guys, have a nice day
[23:29] <gvo> mv /home/xxx/afile.c .
[23:29] <davidrsmorris> Um, so does anyone here play around with window managers?
[23:29] <hutch6072> hello... umm sad so say it but a got a SUPER noob question for you guys
[23:30] <merval> hucth6072 what's up?
[23:30] <merval> hutch*
[23:30] <brophat> merval I am just saying that linux should do  much better job at making a list of supported harware. and when it claims it is supported it should meet a high standard. even if it comes down to only one mother board, on wifi card, etc.....
[23:30] <hutch6072> I want to get ride of windows but.... the only last problem iam am having is seeing the HD I have hooked to my router
[23:30] <tomreyn> brophat, merval could you please take it to a more suitable place, such as #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[23:30] <hutch6072> i am beyond a noob to the unix life and need a crazy amount of help
[23:30] <hutch6072> lol....
[23:31] <brophat> tomreyn did not know that room existed thanks I am gonna check it out
[23:31] <manas_b> help there is plenty of
[23:31] <roninn> force you use must
[23:31] <davidrsmorris> I'm trying to figure out why awesome rejects my ~/.config/awesome/rc.lua, does anyone know what files to check?
[23:31] <gvo> brophat Linux isn't one person/group/company etc.  Your comments are out of line
[23:31] <merval> hutch6072 You have a hard drive hooked to your router and want to see it in ubuntu?
[23:31] <davidrsmorris> hutch6072, check out linux phrasebook, it helped move me along.
[23:31] <hutch6072> yes sir i do
[23:32] <davidrsmorris> And what is the HD?
[23:32] <hutch6072> I have given about 10 attempts to this situation I am trying to deal with.... but no fix will work
[23:32] <merval> hutch6072 is the hard driving acting a backup for your network?
[23:33] <davidrsmorris> hutch6072: you mean a network attached storage?
[23:33] <theforgewright> Hello! Having an issue installing Ubuntu on a laptop with a broken monitor. I can't get it to swap to the external.
[23:33] <Vlan> gvu: sorry, how do i check if i have grub installed?
[23:33] <hutch6072> no its an active drive... I download my movies and music straight to it than use them from all other devices such as my cell and tablet
[23:33] <theforgewright> The install itself went well, but now booting it up it seems it's defaulted to the laptop monitor and is ignoring the HDMI one
[23:33] <merval> theforgewright: generally laptops have built in display changers, I believe FN + F2 is the standard
[23:34] <theforgewright> FN+f4 does nothing, it seems
[23:34] <theforgewright> That's the display changer on this laptop
[23:34] <davidrsmorris> hutch6072: so you mean it stands alone, or you're trying to share a drive?
[23:34] <tomreyn> Vlan: do you mean the grub package or the boot sector?
[23:34] <merval> hutch6072: When you are in windows does the drive mount into windows like a network drive?
[23:35] <merval> theforgewright: can you see anything on the montior you have? or is it fubar
[23:35] <hutch6072> the drive is hard lined into my router my windows laptop, droid, and tablet can get into it easy.... but not my laptop with ubuntu 12.04
[23:35] <hutch6072> I have it set as a mapped drive
[23:35] <theforgewright> It's fubar, backlight's dead. I can kinda make out shapes with the aid of a flashlight, but I can't see the mouse or anything detailed.
[23:35] <davidrsmorris> Hmm, might want to try samba if you can use it with windows.
[23:35] <merval> hutch6072: mapped drive is windows speak for network drive
[23:35] <tomreyn> theforgewright: chances are it doesn't activate the external monitor by default but you need to do it manually (using software and configurations)
[23:36] <hutch6072> it took no effort at all but with ubuntu... kinda wannna smash my screen
[23:36] <tomreyn> theforgewright: are you into the linux shell, i.e. working with a temrinal?
[23:36] <tomreyn> *terminal
[23:36] <hutch6072> I hate windows.... but for some small time user it seems easyer... *is that a word?
[23:36] <merval> hutch6072: have you tried searching for network drives?
[23:36] <theforgewright> I'm fine working with the terminal
[23:37] <merval> hutch6072: the word your looking for is easier
[23:37] <theforgewright> If the monitor was set as a secondary, working at all, I know how to get xrandr to set things straight
[23:37] <tomreyn> theforgewright: do you know which video card you have ther eon this laptop?
[23:37] <theforgewright> 9800 GTS mobile
[23:37] <merval> hutch6072: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:37] <tomreyn> theforgewright: okay, xrandr would be my plan, too
[23:37] <davidrsmorris> hutch6072: if you're comfortable using the terminal, you might be looking at smbclient and other samba stuff.  It uses the same protocol as windows network drives.
[23:38] <hutch6072> iam using 12.04
[23:38] <theforgewright> I would do that blind even if I could get through the initial install configuration screens XD
[23:38] <tomreyn> theforgewright: do you have an integrated grpahics chipset, too?
[23:38] <merval> hutch6072: give me a minute
[23:38] <hutch6072> and I hate to say it but the terminal is something that is still new to me.... iam use to dos but lets be honest... not that hard to use dos
[23:38] <Ologn> When resizing a terminal, a little widget or whatever would pop up and tell you what the new size is.  They did away with that, but I know there is a way to reenable it.  I forget how though.
[23:39] <theforgewright> No, this is a laptop. That is the integrated. Gaming motherboard.
[23:39] <Ologn> Does anyone know?  The little info popup that tells you the new window dimensions when you resize a terminal?  How to enable that?  I know it can be done.
[23:39] <hutch6072> is there some kind of an app thats well "idiot proof" that would work for this?
[23:40] <tomreyn> theforgewright: are you using the nouveau (open source) or (proprietary) nvidia drivers?
[23:40] <merval> hutch6072: I don't know that there is
[23:40] <ekaj> Does Natty not have 1920*1080 resolution?
[23:41] <tomreyn> theforgewright: and which "initial install configuration screen" are you referring to?
[23:41] <theforgewright> Whatever's on Ubuntu to start with. I'm on a fresh install, looking at a set of black screens.
[23:41] <theforgewright> Damned if I know. Screen's black.
[23:41] <hutch6072> so how in the world does one mount a network drive with ubuntu? linix and have thought of a easy solution for this problem
[23:41] <theforgewright> I assume setting username and the like. Might be a login screen.
[23:41] <merval> hutch6072: are you able to access the hard drive on your router through a web browser?
[23:41] <theforgewright> Could be a big clown dancing the macarena =P
[23:42] <hutch6072> yes jsut a simple ip web address
[23:42] <merval> hutch6072: give this a try. http://linhost.info/2012/05/mount-a-network-share-in-linux-ubuntu/
[23:42] <tomreyn> theforgewright: okay, sorry i didn't think much there ;-)
[23:42] <hutch6072> but the connection rate is epic in it slowness
[23:42] <tomreyn> theforgewright: how did you install in the first place then?
[23:42] <Ologn> Oh I think I figured it out
[23:42] <hutch6072> ill try that site, thank you for the help!
[23:42] <merval> You're welcome
[23:42] <theforgewright> The install worked fine, I assume it just sends the display to all the screens for that
[23:42] <theforgewright> Once installed? Nothing
[23:43] <theforgewright> It defaults to the laptop screen and I'm screwed
[23:44] <tomreyn> theforgewright: does it output to both screens during boot?
[23:44] <theforgewright> No
[23:44] <wolfe_> I need some help with bluetooth mouse. It was working, and after building some patched wifi drivers, the bluetooth mouse stopped working. Im not sure where to start looking.
[23:44] <theforgewright> I'm gonna fiddle with it real quick, might take a sec to respond
[23:45] <hutch6072> lol... I wish that there was a local class (workshop) I could goto in person for ubuntu...
[23:45] <tomreyn> theforgewright: i'd say reinstall using the alternative installer, and make sure you install an ssh server on it in the end, and test that you can connect to it fine.
[23:45] <merval> hutch6072: yeah. I hear ya. when I was starting with ubuntu I read forums until my eyes bled lol (not literally)
[23:45] <wolfe_> Is there a way to reset all/any bluetooth settings to original settings?
[23:46] <hutch6072> lol.... Merval: how long have you been at this game?
[23:46] <theforgewright> So configure it remotely?
[23:46] <merval> hutch6072: 2004~
[23:46] <wolfe_> Hutch6072, an awesome way to learn is watch plenty youtube videos.
[23:46] <hutch6072> wow
[23:46] <hutch6072> youtube is the best ;)
[23:47] <merval> hutch6072: only been using Ubuntu since 2005 though
[23:47] <tomreyn> theforgewright: tat'd be my suggestion. so you can change configuration back and forth easily and can always see what's going on.
[23:47] <hutch6072> Merval: did you use windows before linux?
[23:47] <Sassy_Mushroom> I am new to all of this. I just got my Raspberry Pi and was wondering if Thunderbird will work on it. Anyone know?
[23:47] <tomreyn> theforgewright: otherwise it'll just be annoying.
[23:47] <theforgewright> Sounds like a plan, I'll have to spend some time and learn what I'm doing there
[23:47] <merval> hutch6072: Yeah. about 9 years or so. I still use it at work though
[23:48] <gvo> Sassy_Mushroom: Thunderbird might be a bit large.
[23:48] <theforgewright> I'm gonna pound my head against it for a little more before I reinstall, maybe try xrandr blind again
[23:48] <Sassy_Mushroom> Is there a lighter email client that will work?
[23:48] <hutch6072> Merval: so for ease of use... (simple network media/ headless pc to do simple movie downloading and such) would u pref Ubuntu or Windows?
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> Sassy_Mushroom, what OS is it using?
[23:49] <merval> theforgewright: too bad you can't get SSH running on that thing and just do all your config remotely
[23:49] <Sassy_Mushroom> Raspbian.
[23:49] <tomreyn> theforgewright: so when the alternative installer is done and wants to reboot, cacel and get back to that main menu where all the installation steps are listed. on the very bottom you should see an option to run a shell.
[23:49] <merval> hutch6072: Ubuntu. I have one doing just that :-P
[23:49] <wolfe_> Is there an equivalent key shortcut to ALT+TAB to switch among open windows?
[23:49] <theforgewright> kk
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> Sassy_Mushroom, you might try ##linux this is ubuntu
[23:50] <hutch6072> Marval: so you have mapped a netword hardrive to you Ubuntu sysytem?
[23:50] <Vlan> does somebody know if it is possible to recovery the root password w/out grub?
[23:50] <Sassy_Mushroom> wilee-nilee, Okay.
[23:50] <Eitan> hey gents, having issues with a new virtual IP i set up from my host. ive done this before, but for some reason i cant get apache2 to recognize it. i added it to /etc/init.d/interfaces and added all the right info and restarted the interfaces
[23:50] <merval> hutch6072: yeah. a couple of times but never through a router
[23:50] <tomreyn> theforgewright: i think it also provides instrcutions on how to access the location where it has installed ubuntu to. you will probably have to chroot to that and install the openssh package there manually
[23:50] <Chamunks> is there some way i can temporarily set my right click to toggle instead of click in ubuntu?
[23:50] <tomreyn> theforgewright: openssh-server, that is.
[23:50] <Eitan> and its in ifconfig. but i cant get the site to load with that IP... having issues troubleshooting it
[23:50] <merval> usually It's a windows machine or a server using Samba or NFS
[23:50] <hutch6072> Marval: through what than?
[23:50] <theforgewright> Right, okay.
[23:51] <gvo> vlan you can boot a live disk, mount the drive and use chroot, maybe
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> Sassy_Mushroom, it is debian based they might help as well #debian
[23:51] <merval> hutch6072: usually It's a windows machine or a server using Samba or NFS
[23:51] <wolfe_> is there a way to uninstall bluetooth and reinstall it on ubuntu 12.04??
[23:52] <theforgewright> Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
[23:52] <pointexta> ...looking for experienced exaile&exfalso users...
[23:52] <hutch6072> Merval: Do you use usenet by chance? I DL allot of movies/music
[23:53] <Degorth> hello
[23:53] <Vlan> gvo: yes, i have a recovery disk, could you please link me a tutorial to do this?
[23:53] <gvo> vlan however by default ubuntu doesnt have a root password.
[23:53] <merval> hutch6072: I don't
[23:53] <HaltingState> Dr_willis, I did unity --reset and the problem is back
[23:53] <Vlan> gvo: i setted up a server, told it not to prompt me for pwd, and then after 4 months i forgot it!
[23:53] <HaltingState> it occurs in Sublime Text and Blender and deminizes windows when you switch tabs without application
[23:53] <Degorth> how do I close Ubuntu's X Server to install Nvidia drivers?
[23:54] <HaltingState> i disabled it in ccsm but then it causes other more horrible issues
[23:54] <hutch6072> Merval: I hate it and iam sad to say.... but it just seems like so much that I do reqs. me to use windows.... I want to leave windows but iam used to what it is that I do...
[23:55] <merval> hutch6072: I had that same trouble with migrating from windows
[23:55] <gvo> vlan I don't know of one.  boot the live disk,  sudo -s , mount the disk on /mnt  chroot /mnt passwd root
[23:56] <merval> hutch6072: if you use a lot of windows software Wine would be a good thing to have on hand
[23:56] <Vlan> gvo: k tnx, i'll try that
[23:56] <hutch6072> Merval: Just seems odd that something that is so easy to do in Windows and is some commen is such a pain in the ass in Ubuntu
[23:57] <gvo> vlan hope that makes sense
[23:57] <hutch6072> Merval: I hear of this prog allot as of late
[23:57] <Degorth> how do you close ubuntu's X Server
[23:57] <merval> mounting network drives in and of itself is pretty easy
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> dualboot, it is okay to have windows on your computer. :)
[23:58] <Vlan> gvo: hope that'll teach me to use a password that i will actually remember
[23:58] <pointexta> newbe needs help with exaile & exfalso plugin
[23:58] <gvo> Degorth: Ubuntu?
[23:58] <pointexta> !!
[23:58] <hutch6072> Merval: but my issue still lays in connecting my Ubuntu laptop with my network HD
[23:58] <Degorth> gvo: yes, I've tried to do it but I get a blank screen
[23:59] <gvo> Degorth: Recommend you go to System/Administration/Hardware drivers instead.
[23:59] <merval> hutch6072: I hear ya. I'm at work give me a moment I've got a call


[01:21] <h00k> Hi friends.
[01:21] <h00k> Cheesehead: doooo it
[13:11] <h00k> Who else has the smoke over by them...?
[13:19] <mikeputnam> h00k: appleton does
[13:19] <mikeputnam> what is that?
[13:19] <mikeputnam> forest fires?
[13:20] <h00k> Yeah, Minnesota is so inconsiderate :(
[13:20] <h00k> http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=dlh&storyid=72987&source=0
[13:20] <mikeputnam> oh ho
[13:20] <h00k> It's bad in Rhinelander, Minocqua, and Arbor Vitae
[13:20] <h00k> Smoke, I mean
[13:24] <mikeputnam> luckily it wasn't some gigantic marijuana plantatio n going up in smoke
[13:24] <mikeputnam> all us wisconsinites would be jonesin for pizza
[13:25] <h00k> Hah, no kidding. If it was that recent bust in the Chequamegon Natl Forest where they found that huge planting...
[13:25] <h00k> er, if the fire was there
[13:26] <h00k> You know, if we get a release party or two for Oneiric, I think we may have enough activities and things to be an Official LoCo
[13:28] <mikeputnam> DavidLevin: welcome
[13:28] <h00k> DavidLevin: hi!
[13:37] <h00k> it's really bothering me, I feel like a wuss (the smoke), and I am now indoors
[13:39] <mikeputnam> i can't smell it inside the building
[13:39] <h00k> I can't either, it's probably residual from before
[13:54] <mikeputnam> creosote up da nose
[14:04] <h00k> I would, if I weren't at work.
[16:36] <h00k> I'm cold.