[02:07] <daniellimws> heesen: you online?
[02:43] <heesen> yes
[02:48] <daniellimws> heesen: I saw your pull request, wanna give you some advice so that you don't need to wait another day (or possibly through the weekend) for your task
[02:49] <daniellimws> heesen: it's better if you run the tests before you push, because now your build is red on travis
[02:51] <heesen> ok
[03:05] <daniellimws> heesen: also, when adding a new test case, you should create a new function, with a name that describes the test
[03:29] <tsimonq2> m4sk1n: Apologies, I don't have the energy to do a review of your task tonight. I'll try my best to get it back to you tomorrow evening.
[07:44] <Shivangi> Hi
[07:44] <Shivangi> Is anyone online here
[07:44] <Shivangi> ??
[07:46] <daniellimws> Hi
[08:22] <daniellimws> hi Accelerator
[08:22] <Accelerator> hi daniellimws
[08:23] <Accelerator> daniellimws: you are taking a leave right?
[08:23] <daniellimws> Accelerator: yea sadly won't be able to work on anything for a week
[08:23] <daniellimws> maybe will queue up some tutorial tasks
[08:34] <Accelerator> daniellimws: Sorry if i missed anything..but my internet connection is not that good and i need to keep refreshing the page
[08:39] <daniellimws> Accelerator: oh was just saying that sadly I won't be able to work on anything for a week
[08:39] <daniellimws> maybe I'll queue up some tutorial tasks
[08:40] <Accelerator> daniellimws: Yeah u said yesterday that u were going to take a leave for a week
[08:42] <daniellimws> Accelerator: yea
[08:47] <Accelerator> daniellimws: Sorry again...but yeah u can take a leave and de-stress...u can still catch up and the mentors would have already added new tasks by then
[08:48] <daniellimws> well technically, it's just that I'm going overseas without a computer :V
[08:49] <Accelerator> Oh that could be a little problematic....and you won't even be able to stay in touch with the IRC..
[08:50] <daniellimws> phone will do
[08:51] <Accelerator> Ok....But yes i still believe you can catch up after a week
[08:56] <Accelerator_> daniellimws: I believe you will still be on the leaderboard after you come back lol
[08:57] <daniellimws> I do hope so
[09:14] <daniellimws> Accelerator: what task are you working on now?
[09:15] <Accelerator> daniellimws: You won't believe me but i'm still searching for an intersting one XD
[09:15] <Accelerator> *interesting
[09:15] <daniellimws> oh maybe you can look at the autopkgtests one haha
[09:16] <daniellimws> I'm working on that and sure triggers my brain cells
[09:16] <Accelerator> i'm thinking of taking up a package and publish one XD....heard that the task u are talking about is like hacking google XD
[09:17] <daniellimws> er wat lol
[09:18] <Accelerator> what i meant is that it's very difficult lol
[09:19] <daniellimws> oh yea it sure is
[09:23] <Accelerator> You are leaving today daniellimws?
[09:23] <daniellimws> nope 2 days later
[09:24] <Accelerator> So going to do everything u can in those 2 days lol?
[09:26] <daniellimws> nah it's fine if I do less tasks
[09:26] <daniellimws> I hope the quality compensates for the quantity
[09:26] <Accelerator> Yes the faq says quality>quantity
[09:40] <qazi> hi kyrofa
[09:42] <qazi> kyrofa: I am refering to my snap. please reinstall it as  i added one script in the metadeta. please note that you are using --show-all which is incorrect, you have to use --show_all
[09:44] <qazi> mentors, I am refering to my snap. please reinstall it as  i added one script in the metadeta. please note that you are using --show-all which is incorrect, you have to use --show_all
[09:46] <Accelerator> qazi: The time zones are different...please wait as the mentors may be asleep at this particular time
[09:57] <qazi> kyrofa
[10:02] <qazi> hi
[10:02] <qazi> how many tasks have you guys completed
[12:02] <riamo> hi
[12:02] <m4sk1n> hi
[12:03] <riamo> your no of completed tasks? :p
[12:04] <m4sk1n> not many…
[12:04] <riamo> 'number'
[12:11] <m4sk1n> :D
[12:12] <Accelerator> happy aren't u? lol
[12:15] <m4sk1n> Maybe I prefer not to say about it?
[12:16] <Accelerator> Yeah me too haha
[12:19] <m4sk1n> at least we are on the leaderboard
[12:44] <daniellimws> lol everyone that comes in just asks about the nummber of completed tasks
[12:44] <daniellimws> maybe we can configure the bot to respond to that with "quality > quantity"
[12:46] <m4sk1n> great task idea
[12:47] <Accelerator_> daniellimws: That's a good idea...maybe we can ask the mentors to add more features to the bots lol
[12:52] <omairqazi> hi guys
[12:54] <omairqazi> hi popey
[12:55] <omairqazi> hi elopio
[12:56] <omairqazi> hi heesen__
[12:57] <omairqazi> hi +elopio
[12:57] <heesen__> hi
[12:58] <heesen__> omairqazi,do you need any help
[12:58] <omairqazi> can you check if the problem has resolved
[12:58] <omairqazi> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-omairqazi-instantnews/3278
[13:00] <heesen_> ok will do
[13:01] <heesen_> could you please send me the task link
[13:02] <heesen_> omairqazi, could you please send me the task link
[13:03] <Accelerator_> heesen_: He is not online
[13:05] <heesen__> ok
[13:26] <m4sk1n> are the current bots written in python?
[13:29] <Accelerator_> I think  Supybots are built using python
[14:03] <daniellimws> heber, are you able to run the tests consistently? because no matter what I try, it is not 100% consistent
[14:04] <daniellimws> sometimes it gives me more than expected amount of items, sometimes it returns no items, while sometimes it gets stuck
[14:04] <daniellimws> not sure if it is a network issue on my side
[14:09] <Aayush> Mr.men
[14:14] <Aayush> Mr.Mentor I want to download Ubuntu 17.10 but the download is not available
[14:14] <daniellimws> which link are you looking at
[14:14] <daniellimws> Aayush
[14:16] <Aayush> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:17] <daniellimws> Aayush: um it says its discouraged but if you don't care, try this http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/ubuntu-17.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:18] <Aayush> So can I do 16.04.03
[14:18] <daniellimws> that's also fine
[14:18] <daniellimws> but which task are you looking at
[14:18] <Aayush> Cause I like my laptop
[14:18] <daniellimws> depends on the task I suppose
[14:18] <Aayush> The task says to download 17.10
[14:19] <Aayush> But if it is not recommended
[14:19] <m4sk1n> my laptop is on the list of affected by this problem, but I don’t have this problem
[14:19] <m4sk1n> even with 18.04
[14:20] <daniellimws> wow so fast
[14:20] <daniellimws> I'm still using 17
[14:21] <Aayush> Cause I have to download under parent supervision
[14:21] <daniellimws> if so, I suggest you use a vm
[14:21] <daniellimws> virtualbox
[14:22] <daniellimws> because the task is asking for 17.10
[14:22] <Aayush> Can u pls send me the link
[14:22] <Aayush> And the requirements for 17.10
[14:23] <daniellimws> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[14:23] <daniellimws> I don't know what requirements are there
[14:23] <Aayush> Thank you
[14:26] <Aayush> http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/ubuntu-17.10-desktop-amd64.iso This link isn’t working
[14:28] <daniellimws> what's wrong
[14:28] <daniellimws> releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/
[14:28] <daniellimws> https://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/
[14:30] <Accelerator_> What's wrong?
[14:30] <Aayush> It doesn’t load
[14:30] <daniellimws> Does the second url work?
[14:30] <Aayush> No
[14:31] <daniellimws> Can you specify the error?
[14:32] <Aayush> Can’t establish secure connection tothe server
[14:32] <Aayush> To the
[14:32] <Accelerator> releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/ubuntu-17.10-desktop-amd64.iso....this one is working though
[14:33] <daniellimws> Could it be a network issue on your side?
[14:34] <Accelerator> Yeah it seems to working here.
[14:34] <Accelerator> *be
[14:37] <Aayush> Sir if you allow can I just download 16.04.03
[14:37] <Aayush> Because it would be easier
[14:38] <daniellimws> It's not about me allowing, because I'm not a mentor :)
[14:40] <Aayush> How can I talk to the mentor
[14:41] <daniellimws> you can leave a comment in the task
[14:41] <daniellimws> in the code in webstie
[14:42] <Accelerator> Well we don't know if your request will be accepted because your task does specify ubuntu 17.10
[14:42] <Aayush> How should I leave a comment on the task
[14:44] <daniellimws> er, did you claim the task
[14:44] <Accelerator> Just scroll down your page and you should see "Write your comment"
[14:45] <Aayush> But I didn’t claim the task
[14:46] <Accelerator> Well then you can't leave a comment
[16:05] <Guest63459> Your mentor Alan Pope and Martin winepress are not reviewing my work it's bean a long time more than 24hrs.. and I need to complete tasks as fast as I can.
[16:06] <Guest63459> I am Daniel Livingston
[16:06] <Guest63459> Plz
[16:06] <Guest63459> Help me
[16:07] <Guest63459> Your mentor Alan Pope and Martin winepress are not reviewing my work it's bean a long time more than 24hrs.. and I need to complete tasks as fast as I can.
[16:07] <Guest63459> Plz help me
[16:10] <Guest63459> Your mentor Alan Pope and Martin winepress are not reviewing my work it's bean a long time more than 24hrs.. and I need to complete tasks as fast as I can.
[16:11] <Guest63459> Your mentor Alan Pope and Martin winepress are not reviewing my work it's bean a long time more than 24hrs.. and I need to complete tasks as fast as I can.
[16:11] <Guest63459> Your mentor Alan Pope and Martin winepress are not reviewing my work it's bean a long time more than 24hrs.. and I need to complete tasks as fast as I can.
[16:11] <Guest63459> Your mentor Alan Pope and Martin winepress are not reviewing my work it's bean a long time more than 24hrs.. and I need to complete tasks as fast as I can.
[16:11] <daniellimws> um
[16:13] <Accelerator> nothing i can do
[16:13] <daniellimws> interesting person
[16:14] <Accelerator> very interesting
[16:14] <daniellimws> popey ^^
[16:14] <Accelerator> He didn't even get the names right
[16:14] <popey> o/
[16:14] <daniellimws> the guy up there seems to be pretty frustrated
[16:15] <Accelerator> Maybe he started late?
[16:15] <popey> looking
[16:15] <popey> just got emails
[16:16] <popey> https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5327438894596096/
[16:16] <popey> the task is empty
[16:17] <daniellimws> He didn't submit anything?
[16:17] <Accelerator> what was the fuss about then?
[16:17] <popey> yeah, replied to the mail
[16:18] <popey> huh
[16:18] <popey> the website now shows content!
[16:18] <Accelerator> Network problem?
[18:21]  * Accelerator is going to sleep
[19:21] <wxl> so what are we planning on doing about this installing 17.10 task in light of the fact that the download is gone due to bios bug? we should disable it or change it to another version, maybe xenial. or maybe say vm only. thoughts, popey ?
[20:24] <popey> wxl: good point. We should disable until fixed, right?
[20:24] <popey> We can re enable it later.
[20:24] <wxl> popey: i could see several ways of resolving it, but as is certainly doesn't work.
[20:24] <wxl> popey: we do have students working on it, though, so maybe we just revise it to be VM only
[20:24] <wxl> popey: ..until fixed
[20:27] <popey> I would just disable temporarily
[20:36] <popey> i have set https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/6213665139195904/ to zero tasks
[20:36] <popey> so those already on it are okay, but no new ones should be created.
[20:36] <popey> Good spot wxl !
[22:31] <wxl> popey: thanks popey. i'll try to remember to keep an eye on that when it's back. i've been following the bug pretty closely.


[00:13] <keithzg> geri: Honestly, it doesn't much matter. Primary is fine.
[00:14] <keithzg> geri: That's just a leftover from the old DOS partition format, where it only understood a certain number of partitions, so after a certain point the rest had to all be under one big "extended" partition so that the older components within Windows didn't throw a fit.
[00:15]  * keithzg has just used GPT as the partition table lately anyways, and any OS that can't understand it can just go cry in a corner :P
[00:15] <geri> keithzg: ok
[02:50] <Johnny_Linux> ocala ?
[02:50] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[02:50] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[03:14] <dj_segfault> Hi>  I'm having a problem with my kubuntu 12.04 desktop system that just started last night.  I have a TV hooked up as a second monitor, and that's worked for a long time.  But starting last night, I can lauch things into the second screen and interact with my mouse, but the keyboard input goes to whatever app is active on the first screen!!!  Has anyone else seen that before?
[03:15] <dj_segfault> Unfortunately my research keeps coming up with problems with two screens using Unity, which I'm not using.
[03:32] <Pewp> Hello, look for a little help. I generally always use the kubuntu backports, beta and other ppas for KDE stuff
[03:32] <Pewp> On this newer install I just noticed that the ppas are not being seen or something
[03:33] <Pewp> Though I have added them using the add repository tool, and updated
[03:34] <Pewp> Packages that are in backports that should be showing up just plain aren't. And i dont get and upgrades from those 4 ppas
[08:21] <vitimiti> hi o/
[08:56] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[08:59] <Klaus_Dieter> I am running 13.04 on my laptopt. since the laste kernel upgrade from 3.8.0-27 to 3.8.0-29 the system frequently and randomly freezes. a freeze can be triggered by rebooting the machine however. when using 3.8.0-27 this does not happen. The system does still respond to sysrq but other than that I do not know how I can collect more data hence filing a bugreport at this point does not make sense yet. How can I obtain more dat
[09:09] <tsimpson> Klaus_Dieter: you can start by running "apport-bug linux", that should collect system information and create a new bug report for you
[09:10] <tsimpson> if more information is needed you can just attach it to the bug report later
[09:10] <ubsafder> i need to restart network without rebooting /etc/init.d/networking restart says depreceated on my ubuntu what are the current way of doing ?
[09:11] <tsimpson> ubsafder: "sudo service networking restart" or "sudo restart networking" for short
[09:14] <tsimpson> ubsafder: "sudo service networking restart" or "sudo restart networking" for short
[09:35] <marcuspbaird> hey is darkwing in here
[09:57] <Klaus_Dieter> in the meantime I would like to make 3.8.0-27 the default kernel again
[10:32] <Riddell> ** testers needed for beta 1 candidates, join us in #kubuntu-devel to help
[10:35] <alvin_> Will Saucy have a new (and working) version of Choqok? I miss that program.
[10:38] <marcuspbaird> I might be keen
[10:38] <marcuspbaird> have you got a iso
[10:38] <marcuspbaird> is darkwing around at all
[10:50] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:05] <dundee> Hello
[11:06] <dundee> Why does my kde plasma widget move to the right after logout? KDE 4.11 ubuntu 13.04
[11:08] <BluesKaj> dundee:  which widget , the "K" menu ?
[11:09] <dundee> BluesKaj: Pager Widget and Quick Access. I place them to the right of Task Manager Widget and after log out they keep moving to the left.
[11:09] <dundee> BluesKaj: Pager Widget and Quick Access. I place them to the left of Task Manager Widget and after log out they keep moving to the right.
[11:10] <mias> i'm using kubuntu 13.10, when connected to a VPN (openvpn) with the network manager, I cannot connect anymore to konversation; is this a known issue, and how can i fix it? Thanks
[11:10] <dundee> BluesKaj:  They move from left to right of the task manager widget
[11:13] <BluesKaj> dundee:  definitely odd behaviour , perhaps the deskyop theme is faulty
[11:14] <dundee> BluesKaj: I thought so too so I used a different theme and same behaviour. I might just remove the settings folder and see.
[11:15] <BluesKaj> mias:  perhaps your vpn started blocking IRC ..depends on the country/host
[11:16] <BluesKaj> dundee:  that's abit drastic
[11:18] <dundee> BluesKaj: I know but I have been fighting with it for more than 2 hours now.
[11:19] <BluesKaj> dundee:  how many task managers inb the panel?
[11:20] <dundee> BluesKaj: I have only one
[11:25] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[11:37] <BluesKaj> dundee, do you have save previous session enabled in system settings>startup&shutdown>session management , "restore previous session ", and the setting keeps reverting to it if it was closed when your settings were still on thye right side of the panel , try "Start with an empty session"
[11:39] <BluesKaj> move the pager etc to where you want them first  before rebooting , of course
[11:58] <ima> Hey I am Ivan
[11:58] <ima> Is there somebody who can help me with my kubuntu
[11:58] <hateball> !anyone
[11:58] <ima> I cant do a login
[12:42] <bariho> how is kubuntu related to canonical exactly? who controls kubuntu's development?
[12:43] <yossarianuk> kubuntu just uses the ubuntu base
[12:44] <Unit193> Repos and infrastructure too.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> bariho, kubuntu dev is now supported by Blue Systems , who hired 2 (I think) devs from Canonical to work on Kubuntu and other projects the company is developing
[12:46] <BluesKaj> bariho, http://www.blue-systems.de/
[12:47] <Pici> The work that the Canonical and general Ubuntu devs put into the base infrastructure of Ubuntu benefits Kubuntu and the rest of the official flavors as well.
[12:52] <bariho> k, thanks for the info
[13:24] <damian_> hi :)
[15:20] <automan> Hi!
[15:20] <automan> Olá!
[15:21] <automan> Sou iniciante no kde. Quais sites devo começar a ler? Obrigado
[15:26] <tsimpson> !br | automan
[17:22] <dabauer> can't update, update manager is broken
[17:29] <lordievader> dabauer: Could you be a bit more specific, do you get errors?
[17:30] <dabauer> I ran sudo apt-get install -f, and it ran OK but it retured an error, 1 I think
[17:31] <dabauer> whenever I run update manager it returns an error
[17:33] <yuriy> Hello
[17:33] <yuriy> i can't find skype or dropbox on the system tray
[17:34] <yuriy> how to resilve such pb?
[17:34] <lordievader> dabauer: What error?
[17:34] <dabauer> error 1
[17:35] <lordievader> dabauer: Hmm, try opening a terminal and running "sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:35] <dabauer> error code 1, broken pipe
[17:36] <lordievader> dabauer: Do you get the same error when you issue "sudo apt-get update" alone?
[17:37] <dabauer> it ran OK, but the upgrade didn't run
[17:37] <lordievader> dabauer: True, now try "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:37] <dabauer> hang on a secode
[17:38] <dabauer> it's looking for acroread
[17:38] <dabauer> acroread-bin
[17:39] <dabauer> it says acroread-bin is not installed
[17:40] <lordievader> dabauer: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[17:40] <lordievader> !paste
[17:44] <dabauer> !pastebinit
[17:45] <dabauer> I pasted my output to http://paste.ubuntu.com, and it said to run apt-get install -f
[17:45] <dabauer> I ran that and I got the same error message
[17:46] <lordievader> dabauer: Can you give me a link to the paste?
[17:46] <dabauer> I didn't get a URL back from paste.ununtu.com
[17:47] <lordievader> dabauer: Its in the adress bar ;)
[17:47] <dabauer> paste.ubuntu.com/606384/plain
[17:48] <lordievader> I get a not found on that one.
[17:48] <dabauer> that's what's in my address bar
[17:49] <lordievader> Simply copy the output to the input field of paste.ubuntu.com, hit paste and copy the url.
[17:49] <dabauer> paste.ubuntu.com/606384
[17:50] <lordievader> I have the feeling you are missing a number (might be wrong), still getting the not found.
[17:51] <dabauer> I'll copy from my address bar
[17:51] <dabauer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6063484/
[17:51] <dabauer> I didn't see the extra 4
[17:52] <lordievader> Ah broken packages, you've tried the "sudo apt-get -f install" right? Did you get errors?
[17:53] <dabauer> I got acroraead: acroread-bin not installed
[17:53] <lordievader> dabauer: Is this something you want installed btw?
[17:53] <dabauer> where do I get acroread???
[17:55] <lordievader> Guess not, acroread is probably Acrobat Reader... Lets try fixing your system: sudo apt-get purge acroread
[17:56] <dabauer> that worked OK
[17:56] <lordievader> Now try "sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade" again.
[17:57] <dabauer> the update worked, upgrade looks like it is working
[17:58] <lordievader> dabauer: Ok, great ;)
[18:01] <dabauer> worked just fine!!!
[18:01] <dabauer> everything is udated!
[18:02] <dabauer> now I know how to update manually
[18:03] <lordievader> :D
[19:02] <st3ve> hola
[19:03] <st3ve> i just got a new dell laptop (secure boot, efi, etc), and would like to install kubuntu 13.04 on it. i tried booting it with secureboot enabled (the system default), and that didn't work. i disabled secureboot and left efi enabled, and it failed on "grub install-dummy". i've now disabled both secureboot and efi and am trying to install again...
[19:03] <st3ve> BUT, my question is...  am i missing out on anything by doing this?
[19:04] <st3ve> is everything still going to work the same with legacy boot (no efi, no secureboot)?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> st3ve:  not absolutely sure , but i thought efi-mode is the required setting to install inux safely
[19:08] <BluesKaj> don't think the grub version really matters
[19:13] <reagle> howdy, long time Kubuntu user he just returned to using my netbook after a year. After updates and all (13.04) I can't find the battery applet...?!?
[19:13] <reagle> what package is the widget/plasmoid in, what is it called?
[19:14] <Avihay> reagle: try right clicking the sys-tray->systray settings
[19:14] <Avihay> in display subsection extra-items, see if you have a battery indicator
[19:15] <reagle> ah, that looks useful
[19:16] <Avihay> it's called Battery monitor. I might have installed something for it, because the applet just took too much panel space
[19:18] <reagle> I have enhance, however, I have to click the > button to see it since there's a lot of stuff in my systray... and all it shoes me is that I'm off AC, no time left
[19:18] <reagle> i.e., enhanced battery moniter
[19:21] <reagle> also, is this something I could stick on my dashboard for when the screen is locked?
[19:22] <Avihay> well, you can right-click systray->systray settings, and under entrys, sett the battery mon from auto to always
[19:22] <reagle> ah, okay, i never lucked at those settings muched; what about getting a sense of how much battery is left?
[19:23] <Avihay> reagle: you can also try to install  plasma-widgets-workspace , I think it has the plasmoid, though the new locker screen doesn't support that
[19:28] <reagle> Avihay: I have plasma-widgets-workspace, but haven't been able to find a battery widget when on the dashboard/lock screen
[19:29] <reagle> Avihay: do you have something in your systray that shows how much battery is left though? That's what I reall need -- not if I have it plugged in or not
[19:29] <Avihay> try searching for one from the GetHotNewStuff menu?
[19:29] <Avihay> yes, I do, the battery monitor
[19:30] <Avihay> if I'm on power it disappears to the arrow thing , and if I'm dis/charging it appears on the systray
[19:32] <reagle> got you, the enhanced one was actually showing less than the non-enhanced
[19:33] <reagle> thanks for your help!
[19:46] <st3ve> hmm. so i've got kubuntu installed, but muon update doesn't want to run. i click the "install updates" button and it says "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided."
[19:46] <st3ve> how do i provide proper authorization?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> st3ve:  usually it's a password
[19:47] <st3ve> right.. it's not asking me for a password
[19:48] <BluesKaj> try the terminal , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-getupgrade
[19:48] <BluesKaj> correction ;sudo apt-getupgrade
[19:48] <st3ve> i've manually done that..  are you saying that i will never be able to use the gui updater? or that, after installing the updates, it'll start working properly?
[19:49] <st3ve> (it's downloading 354 packages right now.. i'm on my other laptop, waiting for it to finish)
[19:49] <BluesKaj> heh my kb battery seems to be atingup ..uhoh
[19:50] <BluesKaj> most likely once it's upgraded muon will work ok , unless you have some special rules setup in kwallet
[19:51] <st3ve> everything is basic, stock, default
[19:51] <st3ve> i actually try to minimize the # of funny customizations i make to my systems, so i dno't have to remember what i've done when it's time to reinstall or replace some hardware ;)
[19:52] <BluesKaj> ok , once apt is finished then try muon again ...autoupdater might have been running
[19:53] <st3ve> okie doke
[19:54] <BluesKaj> yeah , this pc is just a media server for our TV room , nothing special in terms of software ...all that xbmc stuff is for the birds IMO
[19:54] <st3ve> is muon a total replacement for synaptic? i.e. i'd never have to install or use synaptic to get all the same access to everything?
[19:56] <BluesKaj> yes, I used synaptic up until 6months ago because muon is finally stable and mature enough to be used as a reference for info on apps  ...I usually use the terminal for installing stuff , but sometimes it's good what's related and needs to be considered
[19:57] <BluesKaj> good to know what's related
[19:59] <st3ve> well, it's not just for me, i install linux on non-techie people's computers too and i definitely want to make sure the gui option is viable for them
[20:00] <BluesKaj> yes , understandable for sure
[20:02] <BluesKaj> my friends are are quite technical in respects, but most are deathly afraid of linux
[20:04] <BluesKaj> linux is the boogeyman to anyone who's taken MS courses
[20:07] <st3ve> ok, after running apt-get upgrade manually, and rebooting, now it's working as expected
[20:07] <st3ve> it asked me for a password, etc
[20:07] <st3ve> now i can install firefox and thunderbird and so on
[20:08] <BluesKaj> st3ve:  cool :)
[20:08] <st3ve> should i file a bug report on that?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> that's your call , but it seems the bugfix may have down the pipe with upgrades
[20:10] <BluesKaj> ok , battery change in order here
[20:42] <bjrohan> Help please, For some reason Text is not showing on mysytem
[20:43] <bjrohan> In this text edit bar it is empty squares, when I hit enter it appears correctly
[20:43] <BluesKaj> bjrohan:  where on your system ?
[20:43] <bjrohan> All over
[20:43] <bjrohan> KDE bar, all text is fine
[20:43] <bjrohan> in xChat for instance, the mneu bar text is okay, all other text is bad
[20:43] <BluesKaj> update and upgrade your packages
[20:43] <bjrohan> I just did, nothing updated
[20:44] <bjrohan> Looks like windows text?
[20:44] <monkeyjuice> dist-upgrade?
[20:44] <bjrohan> KDE "start" button menus is fine
[20:44] <BluesKaj> try the terminal , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:45] <bjrohan> terminal text is okay doing htat now
[20:45] <BluesKaj> then as monkeyjuice suggested , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:45] <monkeyjuice> hey BluesKaj turned into a nice day
[20:45] <BluesKaj> yeah monkeyjuice , nice here too
[20:45] <bjrohan> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:46] <bjrohan> :-(\
[20:47] <BluesKaj> bjrohan:  check your software sources in muon settings check them all except for the cdrom
[20:48] <bjrohan> ok
[20:48] <BluesKaj> enable them rather
[20:49] <monkeyjuice> bjrohan:  is this a fresh install ?
[20:54] <bjrohan> monkeyjuice, no I didn't even do an update when I retarted and had this hapen
[20:54] <bjrohan> restarted
[20:54] <bjrohan> I marked all packages sans CDrom dichecked for update, nada
[20:55] <BluesKaj> well, enuff for one day ...later
[20:55] <monkeyjuice> bjrohan:  are there other users on this system . check to see if its there also?
[20:55] <bjrohan> Nope, justme
[20:56] <bjrohan> No other users on thisone
[20:56] <monkeyjuice> maybe make a user to test it ...
[20:56] <bjrohan> create a new user?
[20:56] <bjrohan> will do
[20:57] <monkeyjuice> yap and login to see if it changes
[20:57] <bjrohan> login as guest then instead?
[20:57] <monkeyjuice> ya try it
[20:57] <bjrohan> BRB
[21:01] <bjrohan> guest account everything is okay monkeyjuice
[21:02] <monkeyjuice> so your user account is doing it for some reason
[21:02] <monkeyjuice> hmmm
[21:03] <monkeyjuice> could make a new user and move to that ive had to do that before if you cant figure it out
[21:03] <monkeyjuice> im not sure how to help with this
[21:03] <monkeyjuice> or ask in #ubuntu there more active right now
[21:03] <bjrohan> Thanks monkeyjuice
[21:03] <bjrohan> will do
[21:03] <monkeyjuice> hope ya get it bjrohan
[21:04] <bjrohan> would appear something is awry in the fnts, would it be the fons in my user dir, or global?
[21:04] <bjrohan> probably my home folder
[21:04] <monkeyjuice> ya i remember some problem with fonts but along time ago
[21:04] <monkeyjuice> think it was gnome tho
[21:05] <monkeyjuice> you said guest is fine right?
[21:05] <bjrohan> yes
[21:05] <monkeyjuice> so seems its your user to me
[21:05] <bjrohan> yep
[21:06] <bjrohan> now to figure out what, almost like a font was removed
[21:06] <monkeyjuice> and you changed nothing ?
[21:06] <bjrohan> Not in any settings or in the fonts folder
[21:06] <bjrohan> I added a few little progrmas
[21:06] <monkeyjuice> wonder if they changed fonts or something
[21:08] <bjrohan> I just wnet to appearnace, and changes all the fonts to Times Roman, no diff
[21:09] <monkeyjuice> hmmm not sure how to find this sorry
[21:10] <bjrohan> What part of the systme is the text that appaers in the text editor bar in tthe IRC program, and the name listing on the right?
[21:10] <bjrohan> those are the ones messed up
[21:10] <bjrohan> Not the window title
[21:10] <bjrohan> not the menu bar
[21:11] <bjrohan> Although only n xchat in Firefox  only the window title is okay, menus and all are fubar
[21:12] <monkeyjuice> i dont know
[21:13] <bjrohan> no problem
[21:13] <bjrohan> I had added Conky manager, which added fonts, my guess is this is te culprit
[21:14] <KpycNuK> Can you describe your problem? (just copyPase if you could :3)
[21:15] <bjrohan> KpycNuK,  My fonts are messed up in Kubuntu,  Some appear okay (system) others appear as blank boxes
[21:16] <bjrohan> KpycNuK,  for instance all fonts in taskbar are fine, as well as the KDE menu fonts
[21:16] <bjrohan> I am using Chat right now, where I enter text is all blank boxes, however the text in the convo window is fine
[21:16] <bjrohan> the name lise and room list are blank boxes, window title is fine, as well as the xchat menu bar is legible
[21:16] <bjrohan> name list
[21:17] <bjrohan> In firefox only the window tiel bar is legible everything else is giberish, even text in the browser main window
[21:17] <bjrohan> Dolhin, all text is fine
[21:17] <bjrohan> Dolphin
[21:19] <KpycNuK> Can you show some screenshots? I'm going to smoke and read some russian resources about this problem :3
[21:20] <bjrohan> would like to but can't use browser in this account to paste it to pastebin etc
[21:25] <bjrohan> I opened every font that came with conky manager they all opened just fine and showed text
[21:25] <bjrohan> or a symbol
[21:29] <bjrohan> In kmail everyting is fine, in Thunderbird, everything is not
[21:30] <bjrohan> In rekonq, everyting loosk fine, in FireFox, Chrome, and Chromium, they do not
[21:30] <bjrohan> looks like the standard KDE itmes are all okay
[21:41] <KpycNuK> what about new user in the system?
[21:42] <KpycNuK> Suppose you tried
[21:44] <KpycNuK> And what's happened when you are switching to another terminal? (Ctrl+Alt+F1). Is everything ok there? (I think yes.)
[21:52] <bjrohan> KpycNuK,  here is a screenshot http://tinypic.com/r/35198co/5
[21:53] <bjrohan> where do I find the Guset account files?
[21:53] <bjrohan> I want to copy over the guest account font folder
[21:53] <bjrohan> after backing up my current .font folder
[22:04] <bjrohan_> I changed the name of the .font dir in my home folder, and rebooted, I still have font issu
[22:04] <bjrohan_> ues
[22:05] <bjrohan_> does thes mean my global font is fubr?
[22:05] <bjrohan_> My gurst account all works fine
[22:05] <bjrohan_> guest


[00:27] <bluesabre> Dang.
[00:27] <bluesabre> Some good words about Xubuntu Minimal: https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/30/xubuntu_2404_snapless_ubuntu/


[00:27] <Takyoji> How do you release a SWAP partition from being used?
[00:27] <kermit> Takyoji: swapoff
[00:40] <Takyoji> Apparently there was two seperate SWAP partitions...
[21:21]  * Obsidian1723 For anyone who does not know, CompTIA made all certifications expire and to need renewing in 3 years time. In a reversal of the decision due to uproar, it is now only for certifications that are obtained AFTER December 31st, 2010 that will fall under this new, no-longer-lifetime-certification policy.
[21:22]  * Obsidian1723 So in short, if you want a lifetime cert from CompTIA, you have until the end of THIS year, to pass and do it.
[21:33] <tonyyarusso> Good to know.
[21:33] <Obsidian1723> :D
[21:33] <tonyyarusso> Although the idea of a lifetime certification is downright laughable
[21:33] <Obsidian1723> Why?
[21:33] <Obsidian1723> Masters, Bachelors, those are lifetime.
[21:33] <tonyyarusso> Because people forget.
[21:33] <Obsidian1723> Doctorates
[21:34] <Obsidian1723> Ministrial Creditials, also lifetime.
[21:35] <Obsidian1723> I think lifetime certs are cool, but you need to continue learning.... not have go renew for stuff you have already passed. What if you had to go renew your high school diploma, would you like that say ever 5 years?
[21:35] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, but those a) took a lot more work to get in the first place, b) are more likely to be actively practiced continuously, c) are impractical to re-do, since they're an entire program and not just a test, and d) are less likely to be looked at in hiring for successive jobs after the first few.
[21:35] <Obsidian1723> I'd be like: Dude, I'm 43 fucking years old..  I'm actually too busying DOING it, to STUDY it.
[21:36] <tonyyarusso> If you *know* it, as the cert. claims you do, you don't need to study.
[21:36] <Obsidian1723> I dont want to STUDY hostory, I want to CREATE history.
[21:36] <tonyyarusso> Just walk in, take test, walk out.  30 minutes of your time spent every few years is hardly significant.
[21:36] <Obsidian1723> Tony, what certs do you hold?
[21:37] <tonyyarusso> Obsidian1723: LPIC-1, Novell
[21:37] <tonyyarusso> Obsidian1723: oh, and Windows XP admin
[21:39] <tonyyarusso> Not too bad really.  I used the O'Reilly book for most of my studying, which was well-written for that.
[21:40] <tonyyarusso> The main trip-up there is that the book is for the old test, so the sections on newer stuff like CUPS and X.org developments were a little harder.
[21:41] <Obsidian1723> I stil lsay a deal is a deal... As for a) they took longer, which is the only reason they took more work. b) Not all knowlege gained in school is used daily. I never use the fact that Colbus "discovered" America - other than as an example like this. c) You can "test out" on grades in school. d) true.
[21:41] <Obsidian1723> I should go take it... that one I know I could pass without studying.
[21:41] <tonyyarusso> um, learning about Columbus would not happen in college :P
[21:41] <tonyyarusso> or at least I sure hope not
[21:41] <tonyyarusso> you also can't test out of courses in college in most cases
[21:41] <Obsidian1723> I was referring to grade/jr/high school.
[21:42] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, but elementary and secondary school has no bearing on a Masters degree, which is what you brought up.
[21:42] <Obsidian1723> If they require time, lab work, true, but if it's just a test....
[21:43] <Obsidian1723> Tony, have to learn how to read and write before you can get a Masters.  It has bearing.
[21:43] <tonyyarusso> A high school diploma isn't an actual honor you hold; it merely allows you to go on to the next step.
[21:43] <Obsidian1723> The same could be said true about an AA or BA degree.
[21:43] <tonyyarusso> Yes, it's part of the *process* of getting from birth to a Masters degree, but nobody is going to look at your Masters degree and say "oh good, they know cursive".  That's not what it's for.
[21:44] <Obsidian1723> There is always the "next step". CCENT > CCNA > CCNP > CCIE
[21:44] <Obsidian1723> I'm just saying it all plays a part.
[21:45] <tonyyarusso> The issue here is what the actual certificate SAYS to an employer, which is strictly the last step you completed.  In the case of a Masters, that last step matters.  If your last step is 9th grade, nobody cares about that.
[21:45] <tonyyarusso> You're looking at it from the applicant's perspective, but the real issue is the reviewer's perspective.
[21:46] <Obsidian1723> They only care about the end result, which is technically wrong. I mean, so as long as you have the paper, you know what you are doing? No way.
[21:46] <tonyyarusso> If someone walks in with a resume that says they got a Linux+ certification 40 years ago, as a hiring manager the conclusion I could reasonably draw from that about their knowledge and skills would be nothing whatsoever.
[21:46] <Obsidian1723> I wouldn't trade my 32 years experience in computing for all the letters in the alphabet after my name and on papers.
[21:46]  * tonyyarusso sighs at the logic fail
[21:47] <tonyyarusso> Yes, experience is important.
[21:47] <Obsidian1723> no logic fail..
[21:47] <tonyyarusso> That doesn't make lifetime certifications less dumb.
[21:47] <tonyyarusso> Separate categories.  Limit the scope creep for the discussion.
[21:47] <Obsidian1723> Then BAs should expire too, high school diploma,s etc
[21:48] <tonyyarusso> see above
[21:49] <tonyyarusso> A technical certification is in no way comparable in scope to a college degree.
[21:49] <Obsidian1723> Well, if they give lifetime, then they should be lifetime... not change the rules, that's all.
[21:50] <tonyyarusso> It's not changing the rules - it's having rules that are appropriate for each level of training.
[21:50] <Obsidian1723> No, it's more focused, less broad then a college degree, but then again, unless I am disecting frogs that some how make it into a server, I don't need to know biology :)
[21:50] <Obsidian1723> Tony, it's changing the rules. Look..the deal is, you pass the cert, its for life. Period.  That's changing the rules, is it not?
[21:51] <tonyyarusso> The very fact that I can renew my certification in the span of about an hour should be a clue to the difference here.
[21:51] <Obsidian1723> I can renew mine too that way, but thats not the point....
[21:51] <tonyyarusso> I'm *NOT* talking about CompTIA changing their policy right now.  I'm talking about whether anyone should have ever offered lifetime certification in the first place.
[21:51] <Obsidian1723> The point is the changing of the deal. What if you make a salary of $75k a year and one day they decide to change it to $50k?
[21:52] <tonyyarusso> and your employer could in fact do that, and then you could quit.
[21:52] <Obsidian1723> "what do you have ? A+?" <-- that is a different topic. I'm syaing, don't change the rules. You are saying that they shouldn't be lifetime in the first place.
[21:53] <Obsidian1723> grr
[21:53] <Obsidian1723> "'m *NOT* talking about CompTIA changing their policy right now.  I'm talking about whether anyone should have ever offered lifetime certification in the first place." <-- that is a different topic. I'm syaing, don't change the rules. You are saying that they shouldn't be lifetime in the first place.
[21:53] <Obsidian1723> time to trash this keyboard.
[21:53] <tonyyarusso> So, you were arguing with me about something I never said?
[21:54] <Obsidian1723> Not arguing at all.
[21:54] <_diablo> lolz at chat log.
[21:54] <tonyyarusso> quick, everyone turn on _diablo !
[21:55] <Obsidian1723> Whether they should be lifetime, that's debatable. I think that be it an IT cert or a college degree, both require continued education and experience.
[21:55] <Obsidian1723> I think they should be lifetime, and you need to look at what the person has done since then.
[21:56] <tonyyarusso> and I think you don't understand the purpose of certification :)
[21:56] <Obsidian1723> Sure I do.
[21:57] <Obsidian1723> to make money for the certifiers :D
[21:57] <tonyyarusso> heh
[21:58] <Obsidian1723> You get much use out of the certs you do have?
[21:59] <tonyyarusso> I guess some - I put them on a resume and got an interview, so yes.
[21:59] <tonyyarusso> Haven't had any of them for very long - just over a year for the oldest.
[22:03] <Obsidian1723> ah right on...
[22:03] <Obsidian1723> I just got a few recently myself, even though I've been at this forever and a day, just never took the time until recently...


[04:50] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to hook up a tv to a cable box though a vcr/dvd player using a coax cable and get a clear picture? I have it hooked from a cable box then to a vcr/dvd that is not plugged into power and then to the tv. And it has been up this way since it was installed
[05:29] <Shadow__X> LLKCKfan: are you trying to record?
[05:29] <Shadow__X> LLKCKfan: i am a little confused as to what you are trying to do
[05:35] <LLKCKfan> I am trying to watch tv
[05:39] <Shadow__X> so is the problem the way you have it hooked up the picture isnt clear?
[05:39] <Shadow__X> why dont you directly hook up the tv to the cable box
[05:42] <LLKCKfan> I use the VCR/DVD player


[00:11]  * skaet --> EOW, TGIF.
[20:30] <ogasawara> when an archive admin has a moment, could I get the linux-backports-modules-3.2.0-18.1 package approved in the New queue.  Also, it needs to be promoted to main.
[22:06] <infinity> ogasawara: Done.
[22:08] <infinity> ogasawara: Why do we get no LBM love for ports kernels, out of curiosity?  You'd think compat-wireless could prove equally useful on ppc/arm?


[00:10] <apachelogger> wow
[00:10] <apachelogger> really bad thunder :(
[00:10]  * apachelogger is scared
[00:30] <Quintasan> damn
[00:30] <Quintasan> goin to bed
[00:30] <Quintasan> night
[01:06] <txwikinger> How do I create a dependency in a cmake file?
[01:11] <tsimpson> try with add_dependencies
[01:12] <tsimpson> http://www.cmake.org/cmake/help/cmake-2-8-docs.html#command:add_dependencies
[01:12] <tsimpson> I think that is what you want
[01:13] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: do you have an opinion on how bug 583526 should be approached, from an SRU standpoint?
[01:35] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Is kubuntu_09_use_ft_glyph_embolden_to_fake_bold something that can be upstreamed?
[01:35] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: that's causing the regression, so very no
[01:36] <ScottK> Right, but assuming it's fixed.
[01:36] <ScottK> And does the nex patch fix this one or make it not fix the original problem?
[01:36] <JontheEchidna> If the rendering of chinese charaters could be fixed, I'm sure that upstream would appreciate it
[01:37] <JontheEchidna> From the looks of it, the next one is untested with what the first one was trying to fix
[01:37] <JontheEchidna> I wonder if we could get freeflying to look at it, since I think he's the origin of the other patch
[01:37] <ScottK> I guess my approach would be test the new one to verify it works and doesn't cause regression.
[01:37] <ScottK> That's a good idea.
[02:40] <JontheEchidna> amichair: I have it! KWindowSystem::forceActiveWindow(widget->winId());
[02:45] <JontheEchidna> amichair: works, too
[02:46] <CIA-92> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/daemon/hookevent/hookgui.cpp Use KWindowSystem::forceActiveWindow() to bring the hook dialog to the front
[05:22] <freeflying> ScottK: kubuntu_09_use_ft_glyph_embolden_to_fake_bold and the other one should be push to upstream
[05:23] <ScottK> freeflying: Both together?
[05:23] <freeflying> ScottK: yes
[05:23] <ScottK> freeflying: Thanks.
[05:24] <freeflying> ScottK: np
[09:51] <Quintasan> \o
[10:00] <tsdgeos> lo guys
[10:01] <tsdgeos> something is weird with latest updates
[10:01] <tsdgeos> wants to install cmake-data and uninstall all other cmake-* packages
[10:01] <tsdgeos> which is not good
[10:15] <Riddell> tsdgeos: in 10.04?
[10:15] <Riddell> tsdgeos: do you have backports enabled?
[10:16] <Riddell> tsdgeos: looks like it's compiled on i386 but not amd64 so the data and main package will be out of sync
[10:16] <tsdgeos> Riddell: yes, yes
[10:17] <Riddell> NCommander: could you pimp the build of https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cmake/2.8.1-4~lucid1/+build/1761994
[10:21] <Riddell> tsdgeos: here's my build of the packages for amd64 http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/cmake/
[10:22] <tsdgeos> oki!
[10:22] <NCommander> Riddell: bumped
[10:26] <Quintasan> Riddell: I have a package for KTorrent 4.0 in case we are interested
[10:28] <Riddell> Quintasan: I'm sure we care
[10:28] <Riddell> Quintasan: but I'm about to go out, put it somewhere (PPA, revu, whatever) and ping people until someone takes a look
[10:31] <Quintasan> apachelogger: if you have some time please take a look at new package for KTorrent -> https://launchpad.net/~quintasan/+archive/ppa
[10:31]  * apachelogger is all busy with not going mad over u1
[10:32] <apachelogger> how to get file state info: dbus query loads of unreltaed data -> parse useful one -> if (local && server && strcmp (local, server) == 0) -> do stuff
[10:32] <apachelogger> that sort of makes me sad :(
[10:38] <valorie> [13:41] <debfx> the vlc phonon backend doesn't support artist/title metadata for streams :(
[10:38] <valorie> it works for last.fm streams
[10:38] <valorie> np:
[10:41] <debfx> valorie: it doesn't work for some online radio stations using http
[10:41] <valorie> we've gotten reports like that in #amarok
[10:41] <debfx> I had a look at the gstreamer backend, it contains a workaround to parse the NowPlaying metadata into artist and title
[10:41] <valorie> seems to depend on the stream
[10:43] <valorie> I don't know if I've ever tried the gstreamer backend
[10:44] <valorie> maybe in the ancient past, when I couldn't have told you what a backend was
[10:47] <debfx> I think it's shoutcast that doesn't work
[10:47] <tsdgeos> yeah
[10:48] <tsdgeos> migth well be
[10:48] <tsdgeos> the thing is that there is no spec for shoutcast, or at least there was not last time i looked (like 2 years ago)
[10:48] <tsdgeos> so all you do is look what others do and copy it :D
[10:53] <valorie> kubotu: np
[10:53] <kubotu> valorie hasn't played anything recently
[10:53] <valorie> you lie!
[10:53]  * valorie is listening to Prelude 12/21 by AFI on DECEMBERUNDERGROUND [Amarok2]
[11:30] <apachelogger> iThread, uThread, wiiThread
[11:30] <apachelogger> QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread.
[11:30] <apachelogger> (Parent is UbuntuOne::SyncDaemon(0xa24e560), parent's thread is QThread(0x9f54df0), current thread is UpdateItemStatesThread(0xa4f3298)
[11:39] <apachelogger> time to roll out a qpointer and do fancy thread magic
[12:08] <apachelogger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/ubuntuone-dolphin1.ogv
[12:13] <Quintasan> apachelogger: wtf, why so pink?
[12:13] <apachelogger> !fluffy!
[12:13] <apachelogger> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fluffy/124142040948771?ref=ts
[12:30] <Quintasan> kubotu: np
[12:30] <kubotu> Quintasan listened to "Kie nai Omoi" by Haga Keita 7 minutes ago; -- see http://www.last.fm/user/Quintasan for more
[12:47] <apachelogger> hm
[12:47] <apachelogger> Total Estimated Cost to Develop                           = $ 70,442
[12:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: I am highly underpaid in gsoc ;)
[12:54] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: so that's ~2,000 sloc?
[12:54] <apachelogger> Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC)                = 2,491
[12:54] <apachelogger> http://pastebin.ca/1873799
[12:55] <JontheEchidna> This is k-n-h: http://paste.ubuntu.com/441322/
[12:57] <JontheEchidna> which we both did for free :D
[13:08] <CIA-92> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* (28 files in 9 dirs) merge KIO (really fileview) branch
[13:09] <CIA-92> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* CMakeLists.txt Change project name
[13:23] <CIA-92> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/auth/ (AuthHandler.cpp CMakeLists.txt) get rid of python linking and use binary instead
[13:25] <CIA-92> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/auth/CMakeLists.txt don't pointlessly link against qca
[13:41] <CIA-92> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (auth/CMakeLists.txt kcmodule/ubuntuone.desktop) Fix category
[13:54] <CIA-92> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/auth/ (5 files) Implement an authdenied signal-slot chain
[13:55]  * apachelogger thinks about releasing either tp or alpha
[13:55] <apachelogger> more like alpha really
[14:03] <debfx> 0.01 alpha 1? ;)
[14:12] <CIA-92> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/auth/ (AuthHandler.cpp AuthHandler.h) Delete m_accessToken after fail or success
[14:13] <apachelogger> debfx: 0.0.0 alpha1 :P
[14:19] <debfx> apachelogger: in that case it should be alpha0 :D
[14:19] <apachelogger> debfx: wouldnt it be no alpha then?
[14:20] <debfx> ScottK: could you do me a favor and push virtualbox-ose 3.2.0 to lucid-backports?
[14:20] <debfx> apachelogger: pre-alpha release
[14:20] <apachelogger> which would make it a tp I suppose
[14:20] <apachelogger> this is too confusing
[14:21] <apachelogger> Nightrose: miss release manager, what version should I be using?
[14:21] <debfx> well 0.0.0 isn't a valid version anyway except if you starting counting at 0
[14:24] <apachelogger> we do that, dont we?
[14:44] <CIA-92> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (5 files in 5 dirs) Krazy++
[16:41] <ScottK> debfx: What's the bug #?
[16:42] <ScottK> apachelogger: 0.0.0~alpha1 and you can be below zero.
[16:56] <debfx> ScottK: bug #587278
[16:59] <ScottK> debfx: Someone needs to say in the bug that the unmodified package builds, installs, and runs.
[17:02] <debfx> ScottK: and that someone can be me?
[17:02] <ScottK> debfx: Yes.
[17:20] <debfx> ScottK: done
[18:15] <bulldog98> debfx: the rekonq package, would be clever to split it into two parts (-data package)?
[18:15] <bulldog98> and add an -dbg package, because it’s going to be default in maverick
[18:26] <shadeslayer> Riddell: heh guess what,the 32 bit package for kdegames has kajongg but the 64 bit version does not have it
[18:28] <shadeslayer> for both lucid and maverick
[18:28] <shadeslayer> how is that even possible? :P
[18:41] <debfx> bulldog98: the package in debian already has a -dbg package, once 0.5.0 is released I will sync it to ubuntu
[18:42] <debfx> bulldog98: the binary package is only about 500kb, that's not worth splitting up
[18:42] <bulldog98> ok debfx then I’ll do it the same way in the rekonq daily ppa
[18:43]  * bulldog98 changes the debian files
[18:43] <shadeslayer> debfx: btw any idea about my issue?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> with kdegames
[18:45] <debfx> shadeslayer: what issue?
[18:46] <shadeslayer> debfx: kajongg in kdegames builds with 32 build but not 64 bit build
[18:46] <debfx> o_O
[18:46] <shadeslayer> like it appears under 32 bit binaries but not under 64 bit binaries
[18:46] <shadeslayer> debfx: check it out in ninja ppa
[18:48] <debfx> shadeslayer: kajongg is an arch all package
[18:49] <shadeslayer> debfx: ah...
[18:49] <shadeslayer> thats why... i was preplexed in the beginning
[18:49] <shadeslayer> *perplexed
[18:59] <bulldog98> could it be that kontact has libkontactinterface4 as missing dependence?
[19:01] <bulldog98> Riddell: do you need help with KDE SC 4.4.4 packaging?
[19:07]  * bulldog98 is interested in packaging KDE SC 4.4.4 for lucid
[19:12] <shadeslayer> debfx: btw who authourizes access to ktown? anyone who already has access or just Riddell
[19:17] <debfx> shadeslayer: no idea
[19:17] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:17] <shadeslayer> debfx: thanks :)
[19:18] <debfx> ^^
[19:18] <shadeslayer> debfx: btw any ideas how long will 4.4.80 take?
[19:18] <shadeslayer> to be packaged fully and released
[19:19] <debfx> shadeslayer: don't ask me, I'm just the new guy :p
[19:19] <shadeslayer> as far as i can see we still need to complete kdemultimedia,kdesk and plasma addons
[19:19] <shadeslayer> debfx: same here :P
[19:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: mail sent to kdegames-devel ml about library naming issue ;)
[19:46] <Riddell> evening
[19:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hey :)
[19:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i hope you saw my kdegames comment... about renaming the source
[19:50] <Riddell> what was it renamed to?
[19:50] <shadeslayer> renamed to 4.4.80a ... youll have to rename it when you upload
[19:51] <Riddell> fair enough
[19:51] <shadeslayer> the original tarball is still in the ppa :P
[19:51] <Riddell> silly PPA
[19:51] <bulldog98> Riddell: I would be interested in packaging kde sc 4.4.4 for lucid
[19:51] <Riddell> hi bulldog98, lovely
[19:52] <Riddell> bulldog98: my task for the evening is to keep working on 4.5 beta but if you want to start 4.4.4 that's great
[19:52] <Riddell> bulldog98: first thing is to make a wiki page
[19:52]  * bulldog98 asks himself how he can do so
[19:52] <Riddell> like this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[19:52] <Riddell> probably call it https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/4.4.4
[19:52]  * bulldog98 gets the answer
[19:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw mail to kdegames-devel also sent
[19:53] <Riddell> we'll only be building for lucid
[19:53] <Riddell> and everything above oxygen-icons can go, shouldn't be any new versions of them for 4.4.4
[19:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: he doesnt have ktown access though ;)
[19:54] <Riddell> that'll be the next stage, give me a public ssh key and we can fix that
[19:54] <bulldog98> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~bulldog98
[19:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: any idea when 4.5 will be finished for lucid+maverick?
[19:57] <Riddell> bulldog98: any prefered one of the threee there? :)
[19:58] <bulldog98> Riddell: the last one
[19:58] <bulldog98> cause my main PC doesn’t start KDE at the moment
[20:00] <Riddell> bulldog98: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:00] <Riddell> tars in stable/4.4.4/src
[20:01] <Riddell> start with kdelibs presumably, turn it into gzipped, rename to kde4libs, grab packaging from https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa/+index?start=50&batch=50
[20:01] <Riddell> build it
[20:01] <Riddell> ccache advised
[20:01] <Riddell> check for any new files and whatnot (shouldn't be any)
[20:02] <Riddell> let me know when it's built and we'll work out where to put it
[20:06] <bulldog98> Riddell: does pbuilder also works?
[20:09] <shadeslayer> Riddell: please merge https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdegames/ubuntu/+merge/26371
[20:09] <bulldog98> Riddell: in the wiki page do I have to write my real name or nickname into the name colum?
[20:10] <Riddell> bulldog98: yes but pbuilder finishes then deletes itself so you can't check for new files after the build is done, also you'd need to fiddle around getting 4.4.4 dependencies installed in it when building
[20:10] <Riddell> bulldog98: so I tend to use a simple debootstrap chroot
[20:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell++\
[20:11] <Riddell> bulldog98: anything we can identify you by, given the number of Jonathan's in kubuntu your nick is probably more helpful :)
[20:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer: looking
[20:12]  * shadeslayer finally gets the hang of bzr
[20:12] <shadeslayer> its much much easier that git imo
[20:13]  * bulldog98 likes git
[20:14] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: start using bzr ( which youll need for 4.4.4 ) and then youll see the diff.
[20:14] <shadeslayer> :P
[20:15] <Riddell> we won't use bzr for 4.4.4
[20:15] <Riddell> just grab the packaging from 4.4.3
[20:15] <Riddell> we don't have version branches of our packaging
[20:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ah.. because we have 4.4.80 in bzr now?
[20:15] <Riddell> right
[20:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw any idea how difficult will it be to learn plasma coding? i know some C++
[20:18] <Riddell> shadeslayer: probably want to learn general qt programming first, then KDE programming, then plasma programming
[20:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hmm.. i was already onto Qt...
[20:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: does plasma also have slots and signals ?
[20:19] <Riddell> yes
[20:19] <shadeslayer> ok
[20:20] <ScottK> debfx: Approved.  Now you just need someone like Riddell to execute the backport.
[20:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I guess investigating Qt's graphicsview would be a good start too
[20:21] <ScottK> Riddell: Would you please do that backport in 550880?  It's been waiting quite a while.
[20:21] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I've not done any plasma programming myself though so I don't necessarily know the pre-requisites for doing it, asking in #plasma probably a good idea
[20:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you mean http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/widgets-and-layouts.html
[20:21]  * Riddell wonders what simutrans-pak64 is
[20:22] <shadeslayer> for !info simutrans-pak64
[20:22] <shadeslayer> !info simutrans-pak64
[20:22] <bulldog98> Riddell: for geting the debian folder I normaly only need to download the diff file, am I right?
[20:22] <Riddell> shadeslayer: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/graphicsview.html (plasma is based on graphicsview so I'm guessing that's a useful qt module to know about)
[20:23] <debfx> ScottK: thanks!
[20:23] <Riddell> bulldog98: that'll get it in diff format which isn't ideal.  I'd dget the .dsc which will download the diff and the .orig then dpkg-source -x foo.dsc to extract it
[20:23] <ScottK> Riddell: I'm pretty sure debfx would be happy if you did 587278 too.
[20:23] <ScottK> debfx: No problem.
[20:23] <Riddell> making people happy is a good thing to do
[20:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: thanks for the info :_
[20:24] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:26] <shadeslayer> lol... chromium scores 142 at http://html5test.com/ whereas rekonq scores... 143 \o/
[20:27] <Riddell> score!
[20:27] <Riddell> hmm, no sebas on the channel, guess we won't be seeing him around here any more
[20:27] <ScottK> Chromium's main attribute is speed.
[20:27] <shadeslayer> thats with Qt 4.7, with 4.6 its a measly 80
[20:27] <ScottK> Riddell: I chatted with him.  He said he wouldn't disappear entirely.
[20:27] <shadeslayer> ScottK: and html5 video support in youtube
[20:28] <shadeslayer> rekonq+html5 == crash and burn
[20:28] <ScottK> Nice.
[20:29] <shadeslayer> from kde bug 240007
[20:29] <Riddell> requested backports done
[20:29] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[20:29] <ScottK> Sput: FYI, chromium opens a new window faster than quassel previews the url.
[20:29] <shadeslayer> hehe.. ubottu doesnt show the . in 4.7 :P
[20:30]  * debfx is happy now :D
[20:31] <Sput> what's up with sebas?
[20:32] <Riddell> he got bought by suse
[20:33] <Sput> aah, was he using kubuntu before? thought he was in here for being upstream, like I am :)
[20:33] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hehe :P
[20:33] <ScottK> A bit of both in his case.
[20:34]  * Riddell wonders how much it would cost to get Sput to convert to kubuntu :)
[20:34] <shadeslayer> Any ideas if the k/ubuntu installer supports GPT tables?
[20:34] <Sput> Riddell: won't be happening, my few encounters with it weren't too happy
[20:35] <shadeslayer> Sput: what are you running now?
[20:35] <Sput> also, I must face the fact that I am just not compatible to binary distros :)
[20:35] <Sput> Gentoo, since about 10 years
[20:35] <Sput> and every time I tried something else, I came back
[20:35] <shadeslayer> Sput: must be some secret love potion gentoo brews...
[20:35] <ScottK> Riddell: We ought to get barry to work on him.  He's a gentoo refugee.
[20:35] <shadeslayer> im thinking of dual booting arch myself :P
[20:35] <bulldog98> Riddell: how does „a simple debootstrap chroot“ works?
[20:36] <Sput> shadeslayer: that, or it's just that it works, maintenance is pretty comfy, it has a decent package manager and rolling releases :)
[20:36] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[20:36] <Sput> (this second-to-last point is where arch fails for me)
[20:36] <Sput> ah. how's chances that I can upgrade a pre-release intrepid version (some beta) to Lucid?
[20:37] <Sput> my mom prolly comes visiting me next week, and her laptop hasn't seen internet since shortly before the intrepid release
[20:37] <shadeslayer> Sput: hmm.. well ill probably be building KDE directly from trunk on arch
[20:37] <Sput> shadeslayer: see, I have a package manager that does that for me.
[20:37] <Sput> building software manually is so 1998
[20:37] <shadeslayer> Sput: well theres chakra as well on arch...
[20:38] <Sput> shadeslayer: yeah, tried it :) it was the best binary distro I've tried yet (my dad got it on his computer), but it just doesn't cut it for me
[20:38] <Sput> also, didn't the chakra maintainer get killed?
[20:39] <shadeslayer> one of them yes
[20:39] <shadeslayer> Sput: didnt get killed.. caught some disease of sorts
[20:39] <shadeslayer> Sput: http://chakra-project.org/news/index.php?/archives/54-Sad-news-we-lost-one-of-our-own.html
[20:39] <ScottK> Sput: If you update intrepid first (it's still available on old-releases.ubuntu.com), upgrade intrepid -> karmic and then karmic -> lucid it should work out.
[20:39] <Sput> well, he died
[20:40] <Sput> ScottK: hmm, can I tell that to the distro upgrade thingy? not very familiar with how that kind of stuff works on *buntu
[20:41] <ScottK> Sput: I'll be glad to help you out with it.
[20:42] <Sput> ScottK: let's hope I'll catch you when my mom comes visiting me then :)
[20:42] <shadeslayer> Sput: or you could just do a clean install :P
[20:42] <shadeslayer> takes 15 mins..
[20:42] <Sput> (her place doesn't have internet (yes I know), that's why I can only do it when she comes visiting me, which happens very rarely
[20:42] <Sput> shadeslayer: chances are that the new install won't be kubuntu then, though
[20:42] <shadeslayer> Sput: lol
[20:43] <Sput> do translations for KDE work in Lucid all right?
[20:43] <ScottK> Not perfect, but I understand pretty decent.
[20:43] <ScottK> Definitely better than Intrepid.
[20:43] <Riddell> find unless you're lithuanian
[20:43] <shadeslayer> nothing is perfect.... not even SSBSC...
[20:43] <Riddell> and really and language that can't decide how many plural forms it has is going to get confused :)
[20:44] <Sput> Riddell: German would be ok :)
[20:44] <Sput> Intrepid was not very pretty in that regard
[20:44] <ScottK> True, but if we hadn't used Rosetta, Lithuanian would be fine.
[20:44] <Sput> it was that famous "we broke all the translations" release, iirc
[20:44] <shadeslayer> btw seems that lucid wont start on my Intel P3 desktop :P
[20:44] <Sput> then again, considering the fact that my mom still runs it, overall it must have been quite stable
[20:45] <ScottK> For KDE 4.1, I think it was really good.
[20:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw is the merge fine? im going to delete all packaging related folders from my HD now...
[20:46] <Riddell> shadeslayer: sorry getting distracted, will get to it in a minute
[20:47] <shadeslayer> np
[20:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh and just wanted to ask that if someone gets selected for UDS,how much of the trip is sponsored?
[20:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: if you're selected for sponsorship it all gets sponsored (well not if you clear out the hotel mini bar)
[20:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: haha
[20:50] <Riddell> anyone can come to UDS if they pay their way
[20:50] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:52] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh btw i checked the build log for kdegames,and it showed some .pyc files being installed
[20:52] <shadeslayer> the .install files had no .pyc files...
[20:52] <Riddell> shadeslayer: in the PPA build?
[20:52] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes
[20:53] <Riddell> no .pyc files in kajongg_4.4.80a-0ubuntu1~ppa3_all.deb
[20:54] <Riddell> you asked why  kajongg didn't get built on amd64, it's because it's an arch all package which only gets built once (on i386)
[20:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah that was cleared by debfx
[20:54] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: check  https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/1762212/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.kdegames_4:4.4.80a-0ubuntu1~ppa3_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[20:55] <shadeslayer> and search for .pyc
[20:56] <Riddell> -- Installing: /build/buildd/kdegames-4.4.80a/debian/tmp/usr/share/kde4/apps/kajongg/client.pyc
[20:56] <Riddell> that's installing it into debian/tmp
[20:56] <Riddell> where everything gets installed
[20:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: so that doesnt go into packaging?
[20:56] <Riddell> then dh_install uses the .install files to put what we want into the packages
[20:57] <shadeslayer> ok.. was just a bit concerned :)
[20:57] <Riddell> and since we didn't put .pyc into the .install files they don't get packaged
[20:57] <shadeslayer> why didnt we put them in btw?
[20:57] <Riddell> .pyc files are compiled python which is specific to a paticular build of python
[20:58] <Riddell> so it would break if python changed
[20:58] <shadeslayer> ok
[20:58] <Riddell> and python apps can be run fine from .py files so just use that
[20:59] <Riddell> there are ways of generating .pyc files at package install time which get updated whenever python gets updated
[20:59] <Riddell> but that's fiddly when we have our .py files not installed as normal python modules
[20:59] <Riddell> shadeslayer: merge looks good except there's a few debian/stamp-* files which shouldn't be there
[20:59] <Riddell> I'll remove those and merge
[20:59] <shadeslayer> ok..
[21:00] <shadeslayer> i wonder where those came from... maybe dh_clean didnt clean them out
[21:03] <shadeslayer> anyways.. gtg.. bye all
[21:33] <bulldog98> Riddell: what to do if I’m already usin maverick?
[21:33] <Riddell> bulldog98: make a lucid chroot
[21:35] <bulldog98> Riddell: I’m doing that
[21:35] <bulldog98> but
[21:36] <bulldog98> Riddell: done
[21:37] <Riddell> but?
[21:37] <bulldog98> Riddell: typo
[21:37] <bulldog98> sorry
[21:51] <apachelogger> well then
[21:51] <apachelogger> monkey man \o/
[21:52] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSuEMJ_48YE&a=rM6OE8YBXII&playnext_from=ML
[21:55] <Riddell> without looking I'm guessing that's eurovision
[22:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: guess again ^^
[22:01] <Riddell> ok 4.5 beta installs and mostly runs on maverick, uploading
[22:01] <Riddell> oh apachelogger, could you teach me how to upload kde-l10n?
[22:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide
[22:02] <apachelogger> if any questions arise, please ask :)
[22:02] <Riddell> lovely
[22:07] <lex79> you're uploading, but about ABI issue?
[22:08] <Riddell> lex79: what ABI issue?
[22:08] <lex79> kdepim 4.4 doesn't work with 4.5
[22:09] <lex79> JontheEchidna knows better
[22:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: is there any reason one would want to use KRun instead of QDesktopServices to open a http url?
[22:10] <Riddell> lex79: hmm, release team list suggested it should work fine
[22:11] <Riddell> lex79: however I'm expecting kolabsys to send us a packager soon and sort out kdepim to their high standards
[22:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: I'm afraid I don't know
[22:11]  * apachelogger scrolls up his channel buffer and asks in the other devel channel then :)
[22:11] <lex79> ok
[22:24] <CIA-92> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/kcmodule/ (CMakeLists.txt Module.cpp Module.h) * Comment out not-implemented junk * Make Urls work
[22:51] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you hear more from the kolab folks after UDS?
[22:53] <Riddell> ScottK: had a business lunch with padams (ooh, pizza), he seemed impressed by your contacts with the server team
[22:54] <Riddell> he said he'd be sending a packager our way to work with ninjas soon (as well as packaging enterprise branches)
[22:55] <txwikinger> Riddell: I have experimented with the kdevelop package. I can't reproduce the issue even with 4 cpus building in parallel
[22:56] <Riddell> txwikinger: :(
[22:56] <txwikinger> but it seems to be a race issue... the sequence of when things are in the logs is different on my build system compared with launchpad
[22:56] <txwikinger> I also have not found a way yet, to force sequential build on launchpad
[22:57] <txwikinger> Do you know anybody that is more expert in that
[22:57]  * apachelogger goes all patchy on upstream
[22:57] <Riddell> not really, worth asking kdevelop devs I guess
[22:58] <txwikinger> well.. I rather thought some people who are make experts
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: libkutils was split in to separate libraries improperly
[23:05] <JontheEchidna> applications built against 4.4 will either not run at all or crash when a config dialog is opened
[23:05] <Riddell> yeah so lots of rebuilds needed probably
[23:05] <Riddell> acceptable for maverick, troublesome for lucid
[23:12] <debfx> txwikinger: setting DEB_BUILD_PARALLEL to an empty string didn't work?
[23:12] <txwikinger> debfx: no difference
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: I'm more worried about universe + lucid backports
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> so yeah. troublesome
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> :)
[23:13] <Riddell> did you contact ervin?
[23:14] <txwikinger> debfx...the odd thing is even I can build with more cpus on my system and it does not get out of sync like that
[23:19] <apachelogger> Nightrose: !
[23:19] <Nightrose> apachelogger: !
[23:19] <apachelogger> *hug*
[23:20] <Nightrose> *hug*
[23:20] <Nightrose> :)
[23:21] <apachelogger> holy french fries!
[23:21] <apachelogger> there is a bug
[23:21] <apachelogger> omg
[23:22] <Nightrose> ohnoes
[23:23] <apachelogger> brrrr
[23:23] <bulldog98> Riddell: what goes to Uploaders: ?
[23:23]  * apachelogger takes a note and moves along since it is a rather unimportant one
[23:24] <Riddell> bulldog98: leave it at whatever debian has, we don't use that field
[23:24] <bulldog98> Riddell: ok
[23:24] <bulldog98> never seen that before
[23:26]  * apachelogger is glad to say that ubuntuone authing is working in most cases, that you can break your deamon with one click, that he has an mostly implemented ubuntuone serverside API, that dolphin is able to display status information regarding ubuntuone and that there is a plasmoid that is buggy as hell and only can be used to look fancy ^^
[23:27] <bulldog98> Riddell: what’s with .NEWS-files?
[23:27] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: no, it slipped my mind
[23:27] <apachelogger> Nightrose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy58DfwUrqM
[23:27] <debfx> txwikinger: so custom_include_paths.h is generated too late?
[23:27] <txwikinger> yes
[23:27] <bulldog98> apachelogger: when will an alpha be in your PPA?
[23:28] <apachelogger> one day
[23:28] <bulldog98> apachelogger: cool
[23:28]  * apachelogger actually notes that syncdaemon needs manual patching for the time being
[23:29] <Nightrose> apachelogger: wth? :D
[23:29] <JontheEchidna> Riddell<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:29] <apachelogger> Nightrose: you have been hijacked it seems
[23:29] <Nightrose> thiefes!
[23:30] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: yes
[23:30] <Riddell> uploading 4.5 beta to maverick!
[23:30] <ScottK> apachelogger: Isn't looks fancy, but buggy as hell considered complete for plasma things?
[23:31] <apachelogger> yes :P
[23:31] <txwikinger> I always have this; make[1]: warning: -jN forced in submake: disabling jobserver mode.
[23:32] <bulldog98> Riddell: what comand to run if I want to test if the debian files work?
[23:32] <txwikinger> soyuz does not
[23:32] <txwikinger> even i see aall the cores running on the build
[23:33]  * apachelogger pokes DarkwingDuck
[23:33] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375ENQbru8s
[23:37] <amichair> JontheEchidna: You rock!
[23:43] <apachelogger> +1
[23:43] <JontheEchidna> :D
[23:44] <Riddell> hmm?
[23:46] <JontheEchidna> Oh, last night I figured out how to solve an issue we had run in to with kubuntu-notification-helper and the hook dialog not coming to the front when activated
[23:47] <Riddell> bulldog98: never heard of a .NEWS file
[23:48] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you fix the init yet :P
[23:48] <bulldog98> Riddell: in the debian folder there are .NEWS files but there stands something about expirimental -> belong to Debian
[23:49] <bulldog98> Riddell: sort of mini changelog for single packages
[23:49] <Riddell> ignore it
[23:49] <bulldog98> Riddell: it was going to do so
[23:54] <debfx> txwikinger: have you managed to get kdevelop build non-parallel on your system?
[23:54] <CIA-92> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/daemon/ (notificationhelpermodule.cpp notificationhelpermodule.h) Break out initialization into an init() function. In the constructor, set a singleshot timer for 5 seconds to run this function, so that the module can load quickly and block things less
[23:54] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: ^ six minutes :D
[23:54] <txwikinger> debfx: parallel and sequential.. I never get errors on my build system
[23:55] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: that also removed the need for some singleshots further down
[23:56] <Riddell> root@wido:/root/kde-l10n/kde-l10n-common# debian/build-l10n.sh
[23:56] <Riddell> Do you REALLY REALLY want to mess with the current build dir? (y/n)
[23:56] <Riddell> apachelogger: what does that mean?
[23:56] <debfx> txwikinger: yeah it works for me too
[23:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: there is already ./build/
[23:57] <Sput> hmmmmpf. rekonq's session management is unusable if it doesn't have a session stored on crash :>
[23:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: if you got all tars already you can run the script with -ncd (IIRC)
[23:57] <txwikinger> debfx: I start to tend to say it is soyuz that needs to be fixed, not kdevelop
[23:57] <apachelogger> which will then not-clean-directory ^^
[23:57] <Sput> also, Germany won the Eurovision Song Contest
[23:57] <apachelogger> or rather it will, but not the tars
[23:57] <txwikinger> Riddell: should I submit a bug against soyuz?
[23:58] <Riddell> txwikinger: it's unlikely to be a bug in soyuz
[23:58] <Riddell> more a quirk
[23:58] <txwikinger> rofl
[23:58] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: \o/
[23:58] <txwikinger> tell me soyuz never has bugs
[23:58] <debfx> txwikinger: have you managed to get it built sequential on soyuz?
[23:58] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I still think singleshooting with timer 0 would be sufficient though
[23:59] <txwikinger> debfx: no.. I have not found a way to make soyuz work sequential
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: so kded intializes modules in a serial fashion, moving to the next after the constructor of the last is finished?
[23:59] <debfx> and on your system?


[00:00] <valorie> Guest17981: also, you might want to register with freenode so you have a nick
[00:00] <valorie> !register
[00:02] <Guest17981> Thanks mparillo, valorie
[01:09] <mbrideau> hi
[01:37] <user|39189> hi, how works hibernate on kubuntu 16.04 ? /etc/pm/sleep.d/ scripts don't work. Must I use systemd?
[03:16] <tlcasey100> cannot install kdegames or ksiesen
[03:26] <Arcaire> Hi, what's the app within KDE that handles what app to open a link in?
[03:26] <Arcaire> e.g., if i click an imgur image link (.png) it opens in gwenview
[03:27] <Arcaire> pdf opens in okular, etc. I just want web links to open in chrome and not try and be 'helpful'.
[04:27] <valorie> Arcaire: you set that in systemsettings
[11:08] <sponge> Hello
[11:09] <Smurphy> So - who upgraded to latest kubuntu? Any issues?
[11:09] <sponge> I was looking for a gui for the firewall in kubuntu. I understand that kde-kcm should be the gui. But after installing it, I can't find the firewall preferences anywhere. Can anyone help?
[11:10] <sponge> (using kubuntu 16.04)
[11:11] <hateball> Smurphy: I went from 16.04+PPA to 16.10 yesterday, smooth sailing
[11:30] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[11:34] <Smurphy> hateball: Thx for the info.
[11:34] <Smurphy> I'll prolly upgrade my KUbuntu when plasma 5.8 will be available in the PPA's for it.
[11:38] <Aussie_matt_ubu> is kde 1 gonna be brought to kubuntu?
[11:45] <sponge> Smurphy, plasma 5.8 will be available for which version of kubuntu?
[11:59] <Smurphy> 16.10 prolly.
[12:01] <soee> it will be also in 16.04
[12:01] <soee> devs just need some time to test it enough
[12:01] <Smurphy> soee: Not sure about this, as the entire QT needs to be backported too.
[12:01] <soee> acheronuk: ^ can you confirm my workds ? :D
[12:01] <soee> *words
[12:05] <acheronuk> Smurphy: backporting Qt for the backports ppa is not a problem. making sure that doesn't break the installability of some packages that currently depend on the previosu version's ABI is slightly tricky part. but we more or less know what need to be done for that
[12:06] <Smurphy> nice :)
[12:07] <acheronuk> KDE devs are also keen to see 5.8 in Xenial LTS and have tentatively offered help
[12:09] <acheronuk> 1st step is to get 5.8 into the 17.04 development version, and that has not even opened yet
[12:09] <user|64009> I have just upgraded Kbuntu and discovered that kbackup has disappeared. Is there any easy way to reinstall it or, failing that, what is the best replacement?
[12:30] <sponge> soee, Really? Plasma 5.8 will eventually arrive to 16.04?!
[12:31] <soee> sponge: yes
[12:31] <sponge> cool!
[12:32] <sponge> Is there a gui for firewall in kubuntu?
[12:33] <sponge> I tried installing kde-kcm but I can't find a firewall entry in the networking in system settings.
[12:35] <soee> i'm not sure
[12:35] <soee> http://i.imgur.com/sJmjO14.png when typing "firewall" in search field, it highlights Network section
[12:36] <sponge> soee, Yes, but there's nothing there that relates to firewall. Do you have firewall's settings there?
[12:37] <soee> nope :)
[12:39] <sponge> hehe
[12:41] <sponge> also, is it possible to add a gtalk account to telepathy? I only see a google account with hangouts etc.. I wanted to add an xmpp-gtalk account
[12:42] <soee> i would avoid using kde telepathy
[12:43] <soee> it is unmaintained since 2 years i think
[12:44] <sponge> Hmmmm
[12:44] <sponge> Maybe I'm mistaken but, is telepathy the integrated messenger on plasma's taskbar?
[12:47] <Smurphy> sponge: It is. Yes.
[12:48] <sponge> OK, thanks
[12:49] <sponge> Hmmm It seems plasma is crashing every time I'm accessing widgets in the panel
[12:52] <soee> 16.04 or 16.10 ?
[12:52] <sponge> 16.04
[12:52] <soee> with backports installed ?
[12:53] <sponge> I haven't installed such a thing intentionally, so I guess no.
[12:53] <soee> sponge: this is ppa with Plasma 5.6
[12:54] <soee> sponge: apt-cache policy plasma-desktop
[12:54] <soee> type this command and tell me what installed version it shows for you
[12:57] <sponge> I get this:
[12:57] <sponge> plasma-desktop
[12:57] <sponge>   Installed 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1
[12:57] <sponge>   Candidate 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1
[12:57] <sponge> 	Version table:
[12:57] <sponge>  *** 4:5.5.5-ubuntu1 500
[12:58] <soee> sponge: than please use backports ppa
[12:58] <soee> !backports
[12:58] <soee> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[12:59] <soee> sponge: run the 2 command mentioned there:
[12:59] <soee> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[12:59] <soee> sudo apt-get update
[12:59] <soee> sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:59] <soee> this will upgrade your Plasma do 5.6.x
[13:01] <sponge> Oh, I see
[13:01] <sponge> just a sec, I'll try that
[13:01] <soee> :)
[13:07] <sponge> soee, will the full-upgrade only upgrade plasma or also kubuntu to 16.10?
[13:08] <soee> sponge: if you are on 16.04 and did not marked option to upgrade to non LTS versions than it wont upgrade to 16.10
[13:09] <sponge> cool
[13:09] <soee> backports ppa contains just some updated packages
[13:09] <soee> it will never trigger upgrade to newer release
[13:12] <sponge> ok
[13:14] <sponge> After restarting the pc, it seems that all the windows/apps that were open are still open. Is this a common behavior?
[13:15] <soee> is you have session configured to bring back previous one :)
[13:15] <_thelion_> hi there. I want to upgrade (16.04 --> 16.10). I changed the Release upgrade from LTS to normal release. I restarted Discover and it shows me, that there is a upgrade. I clicked it, entered my sudo-Password, but ... nothing happens ...
[13:15] <soee> System Settings -> Startup & Shutdown -> Desktop Session
[13:16] <soee> _thelion_: are you sure it is not downloading packages ?
[13:16] <soee> _thelion_: also try to open Konsole and type: sudo apt update & sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:17] <_thelion_> i don't know - Discover shows no activity. the screen "16.10 introductory notes" haven't been shown ...
[13:18] <sponge> soee, Thanks! I guess I should become more familiar with the system settings or read the documentation in http://docs.kubuntu.org/
[13:18] <soee> :-)
[13:18] <_thelion_> i tried it with the Konsole - nothing to  upgrade.
[13:19] <marco-parillo> soee: I always used &&.
[13:19] <sponge> hmmm after upgrading, plasma crashed and didn't come back. I'm left with only the Konsole. Is there a way to restart the pc from Konsole?
[13:20] <_thelion_> my Desktop is running with Kubuntu - my Laptop with Ubuntu: and on my laptop i'm running the upgrade.
[13:20] <soee> sponge: try to start plasmashell
[13:20] <soee> does krunner works ? LAT + F2 ?
[13:20] <acheronuk> _thelion_: 'sudo apt install ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt' then try again
[13:21] <sponge> hehe cool! it worked. I'll now restart the pc and see how it's doing
[13:22] <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1633692
[13:22] <_thelion_> acheronuk: but this will install Ubuntu instead od Kubuntu?
[13:23] <_thelion_> *of
[13:23] <acheronuk> _thelion_: no, it won't
[13:24] <_thelion_> acheronuk: yeah, you are right - now the upgrade is working. :)
[13:24] <_thelion_> Thanks a lot!
[13:25] <acheronuk> _thelion_: no problem :)
[13:26] <_thelion_> does anybody has an idea what went wrong?
[13:27] <_thelion_> *have
[13:33] <acheronuk> _thelion_: I posted the link to the bug for that above
[13:35] <_thelion_> Thanks.
[13:36] <acheronuk> _thelion_: were you following? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[13:47] <_thelion_> yeah, i was following that.
[13:47] <acheronuk> _thelion_: I have now added a note on what to do if you hit that bug
[13:57] <Mrokii> Hello. I've tried to reinstall digikam5 after upgrading to 16.10 via some ppa, but I got a message about an unresolvable dependency: "Depends: libmarblewidget-qt5-23 (>=4:15.12.0) but it is not installable". Is there any way to solve this issue?
[14:05] <acheronuk> what ppa?
[14:05] <sponge> Is it possible to minimize apps to the system tray? I trying for example to minimize pidgin to system tray (mimicking it's behavior on unity/xubuntu/windows)
[14:15] <soee> sponge: pidgin shoudl do that
[14:15] <soee> maybe check its configuration
[14:16] <tuor> Hi, does the kde wallet support automatic unlock on login?
[14:17] <acheronuk> think it may close to the tray, but minimise?
[14:18] <Mrokii> acheronuk: ppa:philip5/extra
[14:19] <soee> tuor: i think yes
[14:20] <acheronuk> Mrokii: there is no yakkety series for that ppa, so anything in it will have been built against the Xenial version of marble with has that older library packagename
[14:22] <tuor> soee, thx.
[14:31] <sponge> soee, You're right. It's something in the settings of pidgin.
[14:38] <mrabhi> hi
[14:38] <Mrokii> acheronuk: Any chance to install that missing library manually?
[14:47] <Meodudlye> Hi all. I've just updated to 16.10, and I have a very annoying problem with the keyboard input: for some KDE apps (krunner,  konsole for instance), the input is not taken into account at all, so I can't for instance type anything in krunner, of the characters are not displayed, as in konsole where accentuated characters are not displayed, when an x
[14:47] <Meodudlye> term shows them perfectly. Any idea what that might be?
[14:47] <mrabhi> Please help with this https://paste.ubuntu.com/23338930/
[14:47] <mrabhi> I can't use my machine I need to some work quickly.
[14:49] <tuor> Hi, how does Kubuntu work?: Is it one program for mail, calendar, contacts, or is one backend with multiple frontends?
[14:50] <mrabhi> any kubuntu-devs who can help?
[14:50] <mrabhi> I am stuck with this.
[14:52] <viewer|9424> Hey, all. First time here, looking for Kubuntu help, am I just to toss my problem up here for discussion?
[14:52] <jimarvan> mrabhi: that seems a nasty issue :O
[14:53] <mrabhi> jimarvan, I knw :). any guesses?
[14:53] <jimarvan> :/ nothing good
[14:54] <jimarvan> only one question, is that partition an ntfs one?
[14:55] <jimarvan> Mrokii: probably the maintaner of this ppa is aware of the dependency issue and will update it soon
[14:56] <mrabhi> jimarvan, the windo
[14:57] <mrabhi> sry 1 min
[14:57] <jimarvan> mrabhi: I hope this helps, try this old page http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[14:58] <jimarvan> should deal with your problem hopefully...
[14:58] <jimarvan> RawEffect: visit http://www.kde.org
[14:58] <jimarvan> it will answer your question
[14:58] <jimarvan> aaaaaaaaaand I am gooooooooooone :D
[15:17] <RawEffect> I have Kubuntu installed on an encrypted hard drive. Up until today, I'd have to enter my encryption password twice, once for the main partition, and once for the encrypted swap partition. Today I only entered the password once, and I'm being presented with the initramfs prompt. fdisk -l tells me partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. Tried
[15:17] <RawEffect>  booting off a live USB, which worked, but now trying to do anything with the hard drive seems like it wouldn't work eith the LUKS partition.
[15:18] <RawEffect> I've been using Kubuntu for years, but it's never buggered up before so I'm effectively a n00b, so I present myself to you, on one knee, hat-in-hand
[15:22] <mrabhi> RawEffect, similar issue. Did you upgrade?
[15:23] <Meodudlye> How is it possible that my KDE apps react differently to the same keyboard input ? krunner does not allow me to type anything (I've just upgrade to kubuntu 16.10), konsole does not understand dead keys (when xterm does) and kmail allows me to reply all by pressing A, but then, I can't enter any text in the email window.
[15:23] <mrabhi> My issue-  please check this https://paste.ubuntu.com/23339093/
[15:25] <RawEffect> Ironically, I did. Last night. At 2am. This morning I went to go check the weather, and ran into my problem. Then, I realized, that I'd actually upgraded my other laptop, not the problematic one. Seems like one laptop had a sympathy crash for the other. :P
[15:26] <RawEffect> My kaput laptop did not get an upgrade, is a 32-bit install that has remained largely untouched since. Not even sure what version it is, though I'm pretty sure it's a 15.x
[15:26] <BluesKaj_> !EOL
[15:27] <mrabhi> BluesKaj_, hey man. Any guesses on my issue?
[15:27] <RawEffect> EOL aside, I can't upgrade with my partition table being all wonky
[15:27] <BluesKaj_> mrabhi, just got here, dunno what your issue is
[15:28] <mrabhi> BluesKaj_, please check this https://paste.ubuntu.com/23339093/
[15:28] <BluesKaj_> RawEffect, wonky, as in?
[15:29] <RawEffect> Just realized you popped in after I complained.
[15:32] <RawEffect> I have Kubuntu installed on an encrypted hard drive. Up until today, I'd have to enter my encryption password twice, once for the main partition, and once for the encrypted swap partition. Today I only entered the password once, and I'm being presented with the initramfs prompt. fdisk -l tells me partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. Tried
[15:32] <RawEffect>  booting off a live USB, which worked, but now trying to do anything with the hard drive seems like it wouldn't work with the LUKS partition.
[15:32] <mrabhi> any ideas guys?
[15:33] <BluesKaj_> so what is happening, mrabhi ...not an expeert om EFIboot/partitions btw
[15:35] <mrabhi> BluesKaj_, kde doesn't start
[15:36] <BluesKaj_> no desktop after login or?
[15:38] <mrabhi> kubuntu boot screen then shell no kde loading screen
[15:38] <sithlord48> mrabhi:  that is incorrect according to your screen shot something seams wrong with your fstab and systemd can not find the partitions needed to boot re read yoru screenshot again marco-parillo
[15:38] <sithlord48> mrabhi:  ^^
[15:38] <mrabhi> what is marco-parillo
[15:38] <sithlord48> typed mar <tab> instead of mra<tab>
[15:39] <sithlord48> anyway let it fail again see if in the matience mode you can run mount -a
[15:42] <mrabhi> sithlord48, mount -a works without error and does nothing
[15:42] <sithlord48> now run mount are you disks all mounted?
[15:43] <mrabhi> seems so
[15:44] <sithlord48> do you have broken or unconfigured packages? if so you want to fix that dpkg --configure -a
[15:44] <sithlord48> was your initramfs not made correctly .. you might what to regenerate just incase see here : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/update-initramfs.8.html
[15:45] <mrabhi> the swap is not mounted
[15:45] <sithlord48> ok
[15:45] <sithlord48> swapon <device>
[15:46] <mrabhi> sithlord48, the error says something about swap http://imgur.com/gallery/AqKOQ
[15:47] <sithlord48> what does it say about swap..  can't mount like all your other devices.. did u run mount -a and it returned with no error . then checked it what was mounted with mount
[15:48] <jakelinux|99357> Hello!! I can not update the ubuntu 14:04 to 16:04.
[15:48] <jakelinux|99357> every time I do the process command starts, but for that reason:
[15:48] <mrabhi> sithlord48, i did  swapon /dev/sda7
[15:48] <sithlord48> mrabhi:  does mount now show mounted swap?
[15:49] <jakelinux|99357> W:Falhou ao buscar http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum incorreto
[15:49] <jakelinux|99357> , W:Falhou ao buscar
[15:49] <mrabhi> sithlord48, no
[15:49] <jakelinux|99357> http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages  Hash Sum incorreto
[15:49] <sithlord48> mrabhi:  have you run update-initramfs -u ? try that reboot
[15:49] <jakelinux|99357> W:Falhou ao buscar http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum incorreto
[15:49] <jakelinux|99357> W:Falhou ao buscar http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/main/binary-i386/Packages  Hash Sum incorreto
[15:49] <jakelinux|99357> , E:Falhou o download de alguns ficheiros de índice. Foram ignorados ou os antigos foram usados em seu lugar.
[15:49] <sithlord48> jakelinux|99357:  plese use pastebinfor long stuff liek that
[15:50] <mrabhi> sithlord48, ok trying right now.
[15:50] <mrabhi> sithlord48, it shows possible missing firmware
[15:50] <BluesKaj_> jakelinux|99357, English please
[15:50] <sithlord48> mrabhi: yeah that is most likely for the failsafe boot
[15:51] <sithlord48> mrabhi:  you can safely ingore that
[15:51] <mrabhi> so reboot?
[15:51] <sithlord48> yes
[15:51] <sithlord48> ho BluesKaj_ hows it going buddy
[15:51] <sithlord48> hi ** my typing is horrible today :(
[15:51] <BluesKaj_> hey sithlord48 , ok here, and you?
[15:52] <jakelinux|99357> excuse me. but I had to post as well.
[15:52] <jakelinux|99357> I'm from Brasil!
[15:53] <mrabhi> sithlord48, same error again :(
[15:53] <sithlord48> BluesKaj_:  good and even better when i figure out what made this machine tank over the weekend.. (suspects heat issues)
[15:54] <sithlord48> mrabhi:  so you can again run mount -a and paste me the out put of mount after that
[15:54] <Mrokii> jimarvan: He indeed is, as it seems. I have contacted him, he's already updated the ppa, but as of now, not all necessary files are visible (I assume it's just a matter of waiting a short while now).
[15:54] <jakelinux|99357> the update does not continue. Can someone help me?
[15:55] <BluesKaj_> sithlord48, upgrade to 16.10 YY?
[15:55] <BluesKaj_> jakelinux|99357, those url posts were  404 heere
[15:55] <sithlord48> nope not even kubutu machine (arch)
[15:57] <mrabhi> sithlord48, please check point 5 https://paste.ubuntu.com/23339263/
[15:58] <sithlord48> what is the usb stick?
[15:58] <mrabhi> sithlord48, just usb-drive I use for copying output from the machine.
[15:59] <sithlord48> ok
[15:59] <sithlord48> what happens when you try to manually mount the partitions?
[16:00] <mrabhi> sithlord48, like which?
[16:01] <jakelinux|99357> please. anyone ever seen this my problem?
[16:01] <mrabhi> jakelinux|99357, post problem in english
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> jakelinux|99357, your URL posts don't work here, the page is not found
[16:04] <jakelinux|99357> some packages have not been met and the end is written this: Hash Sum incorrect
[16:05] <mrabhi> sithlord48, sry not sure what you meant. Do you want me to mount any partition?
[16:10] <jakelinux|99357> it is how I fix it?
[16:12] <mrabhi> sithlord48, u there?
[16:12] <sithlord48> mrabhi:  your problem ones
[16:14] <linuxtech> hey
[16:14] <RawEffect> Yeah, I should've known better than to assume IRC would be a help. Cheers all!
[16:17] <jimarvan> see ya peeps :D
[16:17] <jimarvan> <3 kubuntu irc ;)
[16:17] <mrabhi> sithlord48,I booted in recovery, select resume normal boot. And it works from there. But now I boot again without recovery same error.
[16:17] <sithlord48> is your disc failing?
[16:18] <sithlord48> if its taking loger to get online it might explain why resume works and normal does not
[16:18] <mrabhi> sithlord48, which disc?
[16:18] <sithlord48> your hard disk
[16:19] <mrabhi> sithlord48, this was not a problem before 16.10 though. How can I check?
[16:20] <sithlord48> fsck
[16:20] <BluesKaj_> RawEffect, perhaps the linux chat might help with luks etc, they're good at encryption issues there
[16:20] <sithlord48> at least check the partitions for errors
[16:21] <hippybear> or lopsa
[16:21] <hippybear> those are some smart cookies
[16:21] <mrabhi> sithlord48, from recovery?
[16:21] <sithlord48> sure
[16:22] <jakelinux|99357> someone had problems with the upgrade of 14:04 to 16:04?
[16:22] <sithlord48> jakelinux|99357:  how are you upgrading?
[16:23] <sithlord48> jakelinux|99357:  try do-release-upgrade  in a termainal you may get better errors to help
[16:24] <hippybear> truth
[16:25] <BluesKaj_> jakelinux|99357, can you drop to a VT/TTY shell (ctl+alt +F2), then login and do: sudo dpkg --configure -a , then, sudo apt -f install
[16:25] <hippybear> I dislike the muon discover and upgrade system. It isnt the best for debugging when somthing goes haywire
[16:26] <BluesKaj_> hippybear, I still use the original muon for package reference info, the new discover gui is for new users
[16:26] <BluesKaj_> IMO
[16:27] <hippybear> pkg reference info?
[16:27] <hippybear> like apt-cache?
[16:28] <BluesKaj_> yes , I installl packages in the cli, muon tells me what the package names are if i need to know exactly
[16:29] <hippybear> that works, I just use the cache to search for it
[16:29] <BluesKaj_>  well, it's good to know the repos and rependencies as well
[16:30] <BluesKaj_> dependencies even
[16:30] <BluesKaj_> it's an old habit :-)
[16:30] <hippybear> I tend to not really be that informed. I just search for it and install -f if I have an issue
[16:32] <mrabhi> is 5.8 coming to 16.10?
[16:33] <hippybear> I believe its already in 16.04?
[16:33] <jakelinux|99357> My software channels are correct. the problem is when you start the update, it starts looking for new xenial software channels.
[16:35] <hippybear> heh actually not even in 16.10
[16:35] <hippybear> Plasma 5.7.5
[16:39] <acheronuk> mrabhi: it is the aim to backport it once we have it in the 17.04 development version
[17:23] <paranoidabhi> hi this is mrabhi from before
[17:24] <paranoidabhi> sithlord48, on fsck I get http://imgur.com/gKo4dQA
[17:27] <paranoidabhi> please help if possible
[17:51] <onca> I have  this mildlyinfuriating problem with google-chrome which I use to watch netflix on a virtualbox's virtualmachine, it seems that google gets corrupted everytime I reboot or update.
[22:32] <ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh> seem to be having an issue connecting to the internet on Kubuntu. Wifi works great on Windows and Linux Mint, but not on Kubuntu. I have tried 16.04, 16.10, and 14.04. Has anyone else had a similar issue, or know how to solve it?
[22:36] <valorie> does it work when you plug into ethernet?
[22:36]  * valorie has had no such problems on any of those releases
[22:37] <ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh> Yes, but the ethernet port is broken so I have to pull on the cord to get it to work, which damages it.
[22:37]  * ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh wishes I was Valorie.
[22:37] <ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh> *he
[22:38] <valorie> do you have a keyboard key that turns it off and on?
[22:38] <valorie> that was my difficulty with my travel computer long ago
[22:38] <valorie> it seemed to be off by default
[22:38] <ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh> No. I have checked carefully.
[22:39] <valorie> it only ever had kubuntu on it so I never tried it with anything else, but once I switched the hardware switch on a few times it seemed to stay on
[22:39] <ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh> Might the stupid Broadcom wireless card do that?
[22:39] <valorie> when you click on the symbol, is the "airplane" icon checked or colored in?
[22:40] <ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh> No, but there is nothing beneath the airplane.
[22:40] <valorie> because some people reported awhile ago that that kept happening without them doing it
[22:40] <valorie> hmmm
[22:40] <valorie> once mine was hosed, not sure why, and I resorted to using nmcli in the commandline
[22:41] <valorie> it sucks, it's hard to use, but it does seem to work
[22:41] <ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh> ok
[22:41] <ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh> I will try that.
[22:50] <ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh> It didn't work, but I will keep trying. Thank you Valorie!
[22:51] <Not_a_Robot> Do you know guys how to use different Firefox instances for every activity?
[22:51] <Not_a_Robot> I want to have different firefox sessions
[22:51] <valorie> ndtyhnxsrthnxsrh: you have to poll your devices, etc.
[22:52] <valorie> it takes many steps before they actually turn on with that *d****** tool
[22:52] <valorie> like trying to train a cat
[22:56] <Not_a_Robot> how can I create/open an activity, please?
[22:58] <odium> I am getting strange problems with google-chrome on a virtualmachine, It seems to be continually becomming corrupted by something. I only use this vm for netflix