[08:48] <Funraiser> ok this time lol
[08:48] <concept10> Pischenberg: did you try to reinstall?
[08:48] <Tron|BoRG> i think i pasted something like 50 lines haha
[08:48] <Pischenberg> no i've only ubuntu
[08:49] <Pischenberg> yes concept10
[08:49] <Pischenberg> 4 times
[08:49] <Tron|BoRG> lol
[08:49] <concept10> have you ever installed another distro
[08:49] <IIIEars> Nice link - Thank You.
[08:49] <danko123456> Pischenberg: no worries, I was just checking:) anyhow, did you check the md5sum of the download?
[08:49] <k31th> anyone know any decent free news servers ?
[08:49] <danko123456> reburn it onto the cd?
[08:50] <zkruw> i get this error, k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqtmcop.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:50] <zkruw>  anyone know wich packege to reinstall?
[08:50] <Pischenberg> no danko123456
[08:50] <danko123456> is usenet non free? I bnever newsgroup...
[08:50] <Funraiser> danko123456, yes but to access it...
[08:50] <Pischenberg> i've the hdd on secondary ide channel
[08:50] <danko123456> Pischenberg: that may well be a reasonable thing to do...dont ask me how, cause I dont know how to check it...
[08:50] <Funraiser> my isp gives me access to NGs (i mean to all of them hehe)
[08:50] <neighborlee> what part of my system do I edit to make 'umount' work via the drives eject button ?
[08:51] <concept10> zkruw: look for libqtmcop in synaptic - install qt-development packages also
[08:51] <danko123456> Funraiser: I meant as I typed, so it is free, but you have to access it somehow?
[08:51] <pppoe_dude>  where do i find the source of the kernel?
[08:51] <danko123456> neighborlee: the kernel:-p
[08:51] <Florob> neighborlee: if that's possible at all probably ACPI or the kernel
[08:52] <concept10> neighborlee: what are u trying to do, eject your cd rom?
[08:52] <danko123456> pppoe_dude: you want the source of the kernel? which one? what made you think you want it, tell me that and maybe I can tell you,.
[08:52] <concept10> neighborlee: with the button?
[08:52] <Funraiser> well there are services that give u access to NGs with a huge download, it's like 10 dollars per month
[08:52] <Funraiser> but u still need an isp
[08:52] <[Phaedrus] > so i guess Netscape isnt dead afterall... still alive and kicking
[08:52] <Funraiser> kicking?
[08:53] <Funraiser> alive yes
[08:53] <teknoprep> is anyone else having a problem here with kopete and msn messenger
[08:53] <danko123456> Funraiser: so, I cant get to the usenet just if I wanted to like right now?
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> danko123456, lol, i need to check if i can control CPU scaling from USERSPACE
[08:53] <Lafitte-> teknoprep, what problem ?
[08:53] <Jeezis> how do you set the superuser password in ubuntu?
[08:53] <[Phaedrus] > heh..
[08:53] <Jeezis> sudo passwd root?
[08:53] <teknoprep> Lafitte-, not being able to log in
[08:54] <danko123456> jeezis, search the wiki for "ootsudo"
[08:54] <teknoprep> Lafitte-, keeps saying wrong password
[08:54] <danko123456> rootsudo
[08:54] <[Phaedrus] > Funraiser: did you try the new netscape browser?
[08:54] <Jeezis> danko123456: thanks :)
[08:54] <pppoe_dude> and one article says i need to do a "grep CPUFREQ /usr/src/linux-2.6.x/.config"
[08:54] <danko123456> [Phaedrus] : you saying its nice?
[08:54] <pppoe_dude> exceot i can;t find that
[08:54] <danko123456> welcome
[08:54] <Funraiser> danko123456, it depends of your ISP, all of them give u access to "normal" NGs, but some ISPs don't give u access to the NGs where u can find binaries
[08:54] <[Phaedrus] > i am not saying anything... i havent tried it yet
[08:54] <Lafitte-> teknoprep, no   hrmm    no problem here
[08:54] <danko123456> ah...whats your ISP?
[08:55] <Funraiser> [Phaedrus] , no, i like it free, is netscape free, seriously i don't know
[08:55] <danko123456> ah. ok, well, what do you think you expect from the "new" netscape?
[08:55] <neighborlee> concept10, yes like suse , mandriva and several other distros do
[08:55] <Funraiser> danko123456, ISP internet service provider
[08:55] <danko123456> gtk integraqtion?
[08:55] <[Phaedrus] > i am just wondering how they managed to incorporate the rendering engine of Firefox and IE (without MS getting at them)
[08:56] <danko123456> Funraiser: ha, who is yours...whats your...
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> i need help!!! where can i find something equivalent to " /usr/src/linux-2.6.x/.config"?? my usr directory doesnt have that
[08:56] <Funraiser> danko123456, mine is the best in France called Free, best because it's the only one that allows connections to binary NGs...
[08:56] <Funraiser> :-)
[08:56] <danko123456> :)
[08:56] <haffe> pppoe_dude, You need kernel sources for taht.
[08:56] <danko123456> pppoe_dude: did you search synaptic?
[08:57] <concept10> neighborlee: I have eject mapped to a button on my keyboard, the button on the drive doesnt work sometimes
[08:57] <Funraiser> for 30 euros a month, a 5 mega connection with access to binaries...how cool is that,
[08:57] <[Phaedrus] > Funraiser: i think its free... it seems people have tried it already
[08:57] <neighborlee> concept10, how is this accomplished ?
[08:57] <danko123456> linux-source-2.6.10, and 2.6.11 are in my synaptic...
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> well the only thing i need to do is to enable userspace to control cpu scaling... will i have to recompile the kernel for that??
[08:57] <gangalee> How do I find C header files?
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> argh
[08:58] <trondd> gangalee: apt-get install *-dev ... :)
[08:58] <concept10> neighborlee: in gnome, goto keyboard shortcuts and look for eject.  my keyboard has some extra multimedia keys I have volume and etc mapped out
[08:59] <neighborlee> speaking of source...there is no source matching 2.6.10-5-386.not linux-tree or kernel-source or anything so where are we suppose to get it ?
[08:59] <danko123456> locate *.h
[08:59] <gangalee> trondd: I've already installed it, I'm trying to answer VMWare questions
[08:59] <danko123456> neighborlee: I would not get it myself, you asked wehre you would map the eject button on your cdrom drive.
[08:59] <trondd> gangalee: /usr/include
[08:59] <danko123456> neighborlee: lemme ask you this...
[09:00] <danko123456> is it really easier for you to push the buton on the box, then to right click and eject on the desktop?
[09:00] <digip1mp> wow - the default desktop sharing (VNC) in Ubuntu is horrible when compared to Remote Desktop for WindowsXP - I'm not trying to troll here.   Is there a faster solution?
[09:00] <pppoe_dude> digip1mp, you cant compare them
[09:00] <pppoe_dude> digip1mp, two different things
[09:00] <danko123456> digip1mp: yeah, go in feront of your computer, and use it.
[09:01] <gangalee> /usr/include doesn't seem to contain kernel header files
[09:01] <danko123456> digip1mp: please explain the need for a remote desktop access, from another desktop computer.
[09:01] <Florob> neighborlee, interesteds: Is hotplug not handling this, i somehow was under the impression if  the device is not busy it would unmount and eject it on button press.
[09:01] <danko123456> digip1mp: I can see the need for ftp...or that remote file access.
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> well i'm out for a smoke
[09:01] <Lafitte-> digip1mp, mine is super fast   even faster then xp
[09:01] <danko123456> If it is mounted, you need to eject.
[09:02] <trondd> digip1mp: tsclient supports other protocols than vnc. X over ssh could be an alt.
[09:02] <zenrox> yep
[09:03] <concept10> neighborlee: did it work for you
[09:03] <digip1mp> pppoe_dude: I understand that they are different; let me put it to you this way: I want to control my home system from work - right now it runs WinXP (for gaming), but it dual-boots Ubuntu for not gaming.  When I use RDesktop to control my home computer, it's very snappy and makes me happy.  When I use VNC on a 10/100 network here at work to control a computer on the other side of my desk...
[09:03] <digip1mp> ...for testing Ubuntu, it's draggy and makes me sad.  Is there a Linux solution that will make me happy?
[09:03] <laslo> how can i get a firestarter firewall icon on my systemtray
[09:03] <neighborlee> concept10, sorry got busy with PM
[09:03] <neighborlee> concept10, checking
[09:03] <trondd> digip1mp: X over ssh
[09:04] <concept10> laslo: check prefrences
[09:04] <digip1mp> trondd: but that's not desktop sharing, like I want
[09:04] <laslo> thank you
[09:04] <bkw-laptop> I would like to try gdesklets with my fresh ubuntu install, are there any page that explain the steps?
[09:04] <neighborlee> Florob, nope not in ubuntu its not set as that type of default behavior although i'm surprised considering their ease of use philosophy
[09:04] <tahorg> digip1mp: tried vino ?
[09:04] <trondd> digip1mp: okey.
[09:05] <digip1mp> tahorg: no - is it faster?
[09:05] <tahorg> don't know
[09:05] <neighborlee> danko123456, tons easier and usability wise its smart ( who has 85% market share afterall and how do they do it ?<G>)
[09:05] <La_PaRCa> hey, anyone out there running warty that wants to send me File_Roller_Component.server?
[09:06] <danko123456> neighborlee: I am not sure what that refers to, can you reiterate?
[09:06] <neighborlee> concept10, under sound > eject ???? ( I see no other eject mentioned)
[09:07] <Funraiser> did u hear that: Balmer said that Google has 5 years left of existence
[09:07] <concept10> neighborlee: yes
[09:07] <neighborlee> danko123456, tons easier and usability wise ( user interface design) its smart ( who has 85% market share afterall and how do they do it ?<G>)
[09:07] <La_PaRCa> anyone?
[09:07] <Funraiser> nope
[09:07] <neighborlee> concept10, alright ..trying then
[09:07] <lotusleaf> Funraiser, the former iraqi intelligence guy had some funny things to say too
[09:07] <Funraiser> lol
[09:08] <danko123456> digip1mp: your putting it that way makes me sad:)
[09:08] <Funraiser> man this guy was good
[09:08] <danko123456> neighborlee: which, the eject button on the drive??
[09:09] <neighborlee> danko123456, yes
[09:09] <digip1mp> danko123456: trust me - I'd love to kick Gates and Balmer square in the nutz... If only they made CS : Source for Linux
[09:09] <danko123456> neighborlee: if so, then I am gonna make a digi photo for you, to see why I think right click eject is easier.
[09:09] <Funraiser> errr...CS works with cedega
[09:09] <digip1mp> Funraiser: it's slooooooooooooooow.
[09:09] <danko123456> digip1mp: I mean, your issue is lack of knowledge, I hope you find it...
[09:10] <lotusleaf> I defecated on my windows cd
[09:10] <Funraiser> CS and cedega at http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Counter-Strike:_Source
[09:10] <danko123456> digip1mp: I never yet logged into my computer through a graphical login remotely...and I do not see a need for soemthing like that. THat is all.
[09:10] <neighborlee> concept10, ok that worked although its a weird workaround and in 'sound' makes no sense...they need to move that elsewhere to make the option more visible maybe...but anyway I dont see why 'eject' can't be assigned to the 'button' on drive like some of the other distros do as its very user friendly and afterall that is market we are after...unless the devs feel somehow its bad design???
[09:10] <danko123456> now, neighborlee, let me make that photo....
[09:10] <Funraiser> digip1mp, maybe it's your system, cose it's known to work without problems...
[09:11] <anto9us> lotusleaf: you could probably sell that as modern art
[09:11] <mod^> how can I find out the size of my harddrive? :p I want to find out how large hd my shell provider has :D
[09:11] <Shufla> hello :D
[09:11] <stuNNed> hmm human icons set is a bit buggy it seems
[09:11] <lotusleaf> anto9us, nope, I gave it to Jesus, and he broke it, gave thanks, and installed Linux
[09:11] <HappyFool> mod^: try df -H
[09:11] <neighborlee> danko123456, dont bother.....its more work and  not intuitive at all...suse, mandriva, xandros,linspire all would disagree 100%
[09:11] <stuNNed> lotusleaf: please refrain from talking about fecal matter in #ubuntu.
[09:12] <Funraiser> CS and cedega: May crash randomly when using ATI XFree86 4.3 8.825 drivers. Backleveling to previous 3.14.6 drivers appear to correct the issue [tested w/MDK10.1, x.Org 6.7, ATI Radeon 9600XT] .
[09:12] <lotusleaf> stuNNed, please refrain from talking about fecal matter in #ubuntu
[09:12] <neighborlee> danko123456, ie: sometimes you might have to press 'show desktop' just to GET to the icon..how is that intuitive or 'faster' than just pushing 'eject';-))
[09:12] <stuNNed> lotusleaf: :P
[09:12] <concept10> neighborlee: I dont understand it either - its in sound because of CDs - sometimes my button works, sometimes not.  I think it has something to do with ow the drive is mounted
[09:12] <lotusleaf> stuNNed, :P
[09:13] <danko123456> right, neighborlee. again it is a thing I do not use much...like remote graphical login.
[09:13] <mod^> 404Gb
[09:13] <stuNNed> lotusleaf: stop it right now!
[09:13] <concept10> neighborlee: drag the icon to the panel
[09:13] <neighborlee> danko123456, gotcha
[09:13] <lotusleaf> stuNNed, stop it right now!
[09:13] <neighborlee> concept10, how now that is a bit better and I did not realize that could be done..
[09:13] <Lafitte-> heheh     neighborlee   you are funny
[09:14] <neighborlee> concept10, not working
[09:14] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, how so please elaborate
[09:14] <concept10> what icon is it?
[09:14] <neighborlee> concept10, the only desktop icon I have atm..which is contents of cdrom
[09:14] <danko123456> neighborlee: sometimes the cd is mounted, you dont wanna allow just pressing buttons...anyhow, I took it as a given...
[09:15] <Lafitte-> neighborlee,  umm     your need is about the same as wanting to remove your car tires without taking off the lug nuts     just funny to me
[09:15] <danko123456> let me shuit down, connect my cdrom(thats how much I use it...) and see what I can show you...
[09:15] <concept10> which panel are you trying to drag it to?  drag it to the one with applications menu
[09:15] <danko123456> My coimputer is under my desk, that is the thing...I dont even press any buttons on the bx...
[09:15] <danko123456> thats what I was gfonna take a picture off:)
[09:15] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, as I said its not funny when several of the 'mainstream' distros do it the same way as well as  a OS that has 85% market share..you see now ? ;-))
[09:16] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, you are funny
[09:16] <danko123456> neighborlee: the os that has half the world infected with spyware?
[09:16] <gangalee> anyone installed vmware 5?
[09:16] <Funraiser> everybody is funny then, that's good
[09:16] <Lafitte-> neighborlee,   no  they all require you to unmount the volume to eject
[09:16] <concept10> neighborlee: its not just the distro
[09:16] <neighborlee> danko123456, so your saying this could be a security threat ?
[09:16] <neighborlee> danko123456, talk to suse and mandriva and linspire and xandros about it then ;-)....oh ,,and knoppix too ;-)
[09:17] <danko123456> neighborlee: I am saying, my dvd rw doesnt ehject in windows without the contect menu:)
[09:17] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, bullshit
[09:17] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, sorry you dont know what your talking about..
[09:17] <pppoe_dude> how do i install a .deb package? i'm new to ubuntu
[09:17] <Funraiser> bullshit is  longhorn stuff
[09:17] <jelkner> Anyone know anything about pythoncard on 5.04?
[09:17] <lotusleaf> turdhorn is what I prefer to call it
[09:17] <Lafitte-> neighborlee,  howver you feel good about yourself dude
[09:17] <danko123456> look at my post, to find evidece of Lafitte-s theory...
[09:17] <danko123456> pppoe_dude: dpkg -i package
[09:18] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, its not how I feel its how several mainstream distros also feel...get a grip ;-)
[09:18] <IIIEars> is "alien" used to install .deb packages?
[09:18] <pppoe_dude> danko123456 thanks
[09:18] <goldfish> IIIEars: no
[09:18] <danko123456> welcome
[09:18] <concept10> neighborlee: you can make a launcher to eject the drive and put it on your panel.  the command is eject
[09:18] <danko123456> neighborlee: now seriously...
[09:18] <jelkner> pythoncard anyone?
[09:18] <goldfish> IIIEars: it converts from .rpm to .deb
[09:18] <npiv_> As much as longhorn will probly suck I always look forward to new windows versions, they just so pretty :)
[09:18] <Lafitte-> neighborlee,  i was laughing because its funny   i ddnt tell you to not to pursue your dreams
[09:18] <goldfish> IIIEars: dpkg -i, installs .deb files
[09:18] <Lafitte-> neighborlee,  another words  relax
[09:18] <Funraiser> npiv, just a pun, bullshit, longhorn...
[09:18] <danko123456> neighborlee: I am positive of myu dvdrw not ejecting without the eject selection ftrom the context menu when you right click on it, this is in windows...
[09:18] <HappyFool> neighborlee: you might find that if the CD *cannot* be unmounted, it will not be ejected on other systems. This would be reasonable behaviour, IMO
[09:19] <concept10> npiv: how do you know it will suck
[09:19] <IIIEars> goldfish - you couldn't make that any easier. - that is really simple
[09:19] <neighborlee> danko123456, sorry but you are wrong...try again and report back l8r
[09:19] <Funraiser> concept10, lol
[09:19] <goldfish> IIIEars: Yep.
[09:19] <jelkner> pythoncard is broken on hoary, yes?
[09:19] <danko123456> neighborlee: I am telling you for sure, 100%, nmy partuicular dvd, Ive had it b4 linux, I swear:)
[09:19] <neighborlee> HappyFool, no i'm saying on other distros this is exactcly how it works...just like it does in windows...thas all ;-)
[09:20] <concept10> some people get linux working on thier computer and turn into fanboys
[09:20] <npiv_> concept10, the fact they backed off on the new filesystem was pretty dissapointing, and in a preview I saw it basically means more wizards and friendly animated little characters, But its too soon to tell, Like i said im looking forward to it
[09:20] <neighborlee> danko123456, then you have a weird drive
[09:20] <lotusleaf> concept10, or realists
[09:20] <danko123456> neighborlee: if what futureshop(best buy if youre american) sells is weird...
[09:21] <Funraiser> i don't get the point of paying for an OS today...
[09:21] <danko123456> it is just how some are made, when mounted, you can not just eject with the button, its not a biggie, and maybe even there are several qways around it, as some ppl said.
[09:21] <concept10> npiv_: just because they have wizards means it sucks? you can turn that off you know.  BTW, im not a MS zealot
[09:21] <danko123456> a ms zealot, :)
[09:21] <neighborlee> danko123456, if you can't eject your CD with eject button then yes thats uncommon...i'm just laying the logic before you saying not only does windows do it ( I dont use it much I just KNOW from experience as do others) but SEVERAL other distros have this same functionality..'because' its smart interface design plain and simple end of story ;-)
[09:22] <concept10> neighborlee: youre making tooooooooooo much fuss about the eject button my friend
[09:22] <Lafitte-> neighborlee, what distro allows you to do that ?
[09:22] <npiv_> concept10, No like i said its too soon to tell (I backed off my previous statement) , regarding wizards though, try ctrl-f on win xp. Its ridiculous the amount of options and crap you need to go through before oyu can start searching
[09:22] <Funraiser> wars are been fought for less than that
[09:22] <neighborlee> concept10, no i'm just discussing the merits as others are with me..if they ask I have the freedom to respond I believe
[09:23] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, suse, mandrake ( now mandriva), knoppix, xandros, linspire to name a few <G>
[09:23] <IIIEars> neighborlee - I know what you mean - the interesting thing about linux is that it is open source and with a little effort you can transfer that function to Ubuntu and share it with others.
[09:23] <Lafitte-> neighborlee,  i would go use one of those  and join there channel  and find another pointless argumnt for them
[09:24] <Funraiser> if u both agree on the fact that u disagree, that's good enough
[09:24] <concept10> npiv_: I hate the search in windows too...but you have to realize they make the OS like that so it could be easy for non-techies
[09:24] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, I choose ubuntu because I find it meets my need and philosophy..all of this is simply over wish to use eject like the other ones do as I find it desireable/easier
[09:24] <neighborlee> IIIEars, yes that is why I was asking
[09:24] <danko123456> hah:)
[09:24] <neighborlee> IIIEars, because I had no idea where to start trying to achieve that functionality ;-)
[09:24] <concept10> npiv_: i absolutely HATE search in windows, it is toooooo slow
[09:25] <danko123456> yeah, its not very good.
[09:25] <danko123456> I like how in Linux you have the cli alternative, so it can all be faster.
[09:25] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, slander will get you nowhere in this channel
[09:25] <Funraiser> with google desktop is fast even on windows
[09:25] <IIIEars> what distro includes it? - can i take a look?
[09:25] <npiv_> concept10 - of course, And its great, Im a part time VS developer (probly shouldnt say that here :)) . I just think the powertools arent all that, microsoft could implement a more friendly tech enviroment too, kill the dog ;)
[09:25] <Lafitte-> neighborlee,  slander ???   you need to get an education
[09:25] <Lafitte-> or go read what slander means    rofl
[09:25] <npiv_> concept10 - at least present the option
[09:25] <Lafitte-> i didnt slander you at all
[09:25] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, stop being childdish or face being kicked or banned
[09:26] <concept10> come on guys
[09:26] <Lafitte-> stfu
[09:26] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, I have the right to discuss without being attacked
[09:26] <danko123456> ok, lets drop it start over:)
[09:26] <IIIEars> lol
[09:26] <neighborlee> Lafitte-, stfu ?
[09:26] <danko123456> what do you mean attacked?
[09:26] <Lafitte-> very simple
[09:26] <danko123456> :)
[09:26] <npiv_> Lafitte-, , La fit is throwing a fit muahahha
[09:26] <danko123456> its just words?
[09:26] <gangalee> yeah, let's drop it, and talk about kernel header files
[09:26] <Lafitte-> hahaha
[09:26] <gangalee> in Hoary
[09:26] <danko123456> one guy told you, gangalee? looked in the usr/something dir?
[09:26] <npiv_> gangalee, eww your not invited to my birthday party ;)
[09:26] <gangalee> like how do I install them...
[09:26] <anto9us> gangalee: I like your style :)
[09:26] <Anubis> well BSOD trying ot play Civ3
[09:27] <Funraiser> stfu (shut the fuck up)
[09:27] <gangalee> I don't think it's been fully installed
[09:27] <Anubis> Guess I will have to learn Freeciv
[09:27] <Funraiser> just explaining!
[09:27] <neighborlee> Funraiser, stop it or face ban or kick
[09:27] <gangalee> npiv_: Gangalee will crash your party
[09:27] <npiv_> neighborlee, you gonna kick him ?
[09:27] <Lafitte-> neighborlee,  you cant ban or kick anyone
[09:27] <HappyFool> gangalee: try linux-headers-386
[09:27] <danko123456> gangalee: for what? are you isntalling anything?
[09:27] <HappyFool> (assuming you're running a 386 kernel)
[09:27] <danko123456> or do as he said.
[09:27] <gangalee> I'm trying to install VMWare wkstation 5
[09:28] <HappyFool> gangalee: that should install enough for the compilation of kernel modules
[09:28] <gangalee> so apt-get install linux-headers-386 ?
[09:28] <Funraiser> neighborlee, err...i was just explaining...calm down
[09:28] <HappyFool> gangalee: that should work. are you running a 386 kernel? try 'uname -r' to find out
[09:28] <lotusleaf> "Ubuntu Linux 5.10 Colony 1 Released" http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10622&limit=no
[09:29] <Nermal> woo fixed
[09:29] <lotusleaf> Nermal ;)
[09:29] <Nermal> that was fun
[09:29] <Lafitte-> Funraiser,   grin
[09:29] <stuNNed> hi Nermal
[09:29] <Nermal> lo lotusleaf
[09:29] <Nermal> lo stuNNed @_
[09:29] <Nermal> :)
[09:29] <gangalee> HappyFool: 2.6.10-5-386
[09:30] <npiv_> neighborlee, your not being very neighborly ;)
[09:30] <stuNNed> Nermal: hehe :)
[09:30] <HappyFool> gangalee: then linux-headers-386 is what you want
[09:30] <gangalee> HappyFool: thanks
[09:31] <anto9us> gangalee: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:31] <gangalee> so where does it install? the kernel headers?
[09:31] <bkw-laptop> Is it possible to disable the squares that appear everytime I minimize a window in gnome?
[09:31] <HappyFool> except that linux-headers-386 will automatically upgrade with your image
[09:32] <Lafitte-> bkw-laptop,  you can remove the panel i believe is you want
[09:32] <danko123456> what squares??
[09:32] <Funraiser> btw slander was appropriate since it means: to defame ,or to  to harm the reputation of by libel (merriam webster)
[09:32] <anto9us> yeah, what squares exactly?
[09:32] <jared> how do I download a streaming file (exg: mms://foo.wma)?
[09:32] <bkw-laptop> gnome make squares that follows every window during the minimization
[09:32] <HappyFool> presumably the taskbar (by default at the bottom)
[09:32] <REBELinBLUE> hey
[09:33] <Dittohead> Does 5.04 support nForce (2 400 ultra) SATA?
[09:33] <REBELinBLUE> anyone mind giving me a hand with hotplug?
[09:33] <anto9us> Funraiser: actually, no, being in IRC and published/broadcast it would be libel
[09:33] <tahorg> jared: mmsrip, not in ubuntu
[09:33] <bkw-laptop> danko123456, anto9us: Was that any clearer?
[09:33] <HappyFool> bkw-laptop: you mean the bar at the bottom
[09:33] <tahorg> jared: google for it
[09:33] <dockane> which identd is recommended  ?
[09:33] <HappyFool> ?
[09:33] <IIIEars> It looks like the CD eject button will be supported in the next release  (tho you might try installing it now..) http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/utils/eject
[09:33] <afroman> hi everyone
[09:33] <jared> tahorg, thanks.
[09:33] <anto9us> bkw-laptop: you mean the animation?
[09:33] <afroman> I'm in big trouble
[09:33] <bkw-laptop> anto9us, yes.
[09:34] <neighborlee> IIIEars, nice..
[09:34] <afroman> can you plz help me resizing my screen?
[09:34] <anto9us> bkw-laptop: have you tried browsing the options in gnome preferences?
[09:34] <danko123456> bkw-laptop: like the animation that inmitates a frame of a window being minimized? or the taskbar representation of windows?
[09:35] <gangalee> finally got it- /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/
[09:35] <npiv_> afroman, system -> preferences -> screen resolution not have the option for you ?
[09:35] <danko123456> afroman: just take an axe, and hack it into the right size:)
[09:35] <bkw-laptop> danko123456, the animation of windows being minimized
[09:35] <Lafitte-> IIIEars,  would be the same apt-get install eject ?
[09:35] <gangalee> that screen resolution tool didn't work for me at all
[09:35] <danko123456> bkw-laptop: disable?
[09:35] <afroman> npiv_ done that but the thing is it won't change from 640x480
[09:35] <gangalee> had to change my xorg.conf
[09:36] <jared> tahorg, mimms is on ubuntu, I'm gonna try it.
[09:36] <HappyFool> i have eject in hoary. i don't think this is anything new
[09:36] <npiv_> afroman, there are no other options ? or it doesnt change when you select another option ?
[09:36] <danko123456> I should leave the channel, the ideas ppl have about customizing their computer are getting on my nervs:)
[09:36] <tahorg> jared: is it ?
[09:36] <danko123456> maybe its cause I cant find my smokes.
[09:36] <tahorg> jared: which repository ?
[09:36] <tahorg> ahh mimms
[09:36] <HappyFool> eject contains /usr/bin/eject and /usr/bin/volname, which have been around for years
[09:36] <Funraiser> danko123456, the xmms skins are nice...
[09:36] <anto9us> bkw-laptop: there's an option in Configuration Editor on the Applications | System Tools menu
[09:36] <afroman> npiv_ it doesn't have any other resolution but 640x480
[09:37] <FBJ> a little help pls... downloaded a packed file - unpacked as executable. Doubleclick works on Mandriva - but not on Ubuntu
[09:37] <aseed> hi all. how do i sync things on my palm and evolution?
[09:37] <danko123456> anto9us: whats it under?
[09:37] <aseed> appointments, tasks etc
[09:37] <jared> tahorg, I think universe under networking. How can I tell in synaptic?
[09:37] <anto9us> bkw-laptop: it's under /desktop/interface
[09:37] <danko123456> fbj, name of file.
[09:37] <Lafitte-> aseed,  you can it being seen mby linux already
[09:37] <neighborlee> IIIEars, I h ad looked before on website and apparantly missed it, so thanks for verification on this matter
[09:37] <npiv_> afroman, you need to configure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf then - Perhaps you can rerun the conf tool though one sec
[09:37] <tahorg> jared: ok I found it
[09:37] <FBJ> altme - a messenger type program
[09:37] <tahorg> jared: I thougt you were talking about mmsrip
[09:38] <npiv_> anyone know how to rerun the resolution sizes menu given during installation
[09:38] <aseed> Lafitte-, what?
[09:38] <neighborlee> npiv, by discussing facts and defending myself upon attack ?
[09:38] <danko123456> neighborlee: so works out it really is gonna work?
[09:38] <Lafitte-> aseed,  ack   let me retype that   can you see the device in linux already
[09:38] <npiv_> neighborlee, what did I do ?
[09:38] <neighborlee> npiv_ neighborlee, your not being very neighborly ;)
[09:38] <npiv_> ah yes
[09:38] <aseed> Lafitte-, yeah gnome-bluetooth shows the device
[09:38] <bkw-laptop> anto9us, I unchecked enable animations
[09:38] <neighborlee> danko123456, yes indeed!!!
[09:38] <npiv_> funny joke :)
[09:38] <HappyFool> neighborlee: have you tried installing the setcd package? (in hoary universe) It mentions controlling CD properties like auto-locking
[09:38] <bkw-laptop> anto9us, I think gnome need restart also
[09:38] <anto9us> bkw-laptop: did it work?
[09:38] <Lafitte-> aseed,  check for the conduits now
[09:39] <Lafitte-> aseed,   those are usually set off  by default  so you need to turn them on
[09:39] <neighborlee> HappyFool, no for now keyboard mapping will be sufficient but thank you for the reference
[09:39] <danko123456> npiv: you can manually edit the file, and put in the refresh rates? in it...
[09:39] <aseed> Lafitte-, where do I turn them on?
[09:39] <jared> tahorg, seems to be working...
[09:39] <Lafitte-> aseed, should be in the palm settings
[09:40] <bkw-laptop> anto9us, lemme restart gnome. thanks for your help so far.
[09:40] <Lafitte-> aseed,  system prefs  palm devices i think
[09:40] <danko123456> neighborlee: :)
[09:40] <Lafitte-> aseed,   no her eit is
[09:40] <npiv_> afroman, Ill help you with it manually, you there ?
[09:40] <Lafitte-> aseed,   in evolution
[09:40] <aseed> yeah
[09:40] <Lafitte-> aseed, tools palm settings  then conduits
[09:41] <Lafitte-> aseed,  then sync the palm again
[09:41] <aseed> Lafitte-, urgh, cant believe i missed that in evo
[09:42] <Lafitte-> aseed,   hehe   yeah   i had issues  with mine
[09:42] <aseed> it's looking for /dev/pilot tho, what will the bluetooth device be?
[09:42] <Lafitte-> aseed,  has to add my model to the palm script  by hand
[09:42] <HappyFool> is it just me, or are the repositories often a bit screwed wrt package files having incorrect MD5 ?
[09:42] <Lafitte-> aseed,  i use usb     so im not sure   ill google for it for you    hold a sec
[09:43] <danko123456> why would something like auto mounting of a digital camera device stop working?(except for me constantly installing, and uninstalliong things on my comp?
[09:43] <aseed> Lafitte-, you don't have to, i'll have a look if you like :)
[09:43] <danko123456> KarlosII: what?
[09:43] <Lafitte-> aseed,   you look also   tellme if you find it
[09:43] <danko123456> KarlosII: a tv channel?
[09:43] <psychonate> what exactly is the mplayer-custom package?
[09:43] <KarlosII> yes it has all our live parlimentary sessions
[09:44] <KarlosII> fed government
[09:44] <danko123456> not on my tv it dont...
[09:44] <KarlosII> maybe not :)
[09:44] <danko123456> cpac channel?
[09:44] <danko123456> what are they lying bouit now?
[09:45] <FBJ> Any pointers as to how to run an executable file on Ubuntu... It works fine with doubleclicking on Mandriva (pls) ?
[09:45] <HappyFool> FBJ: do you know how to start a terminal?
[09:45] <danko123456> FBJ: what is the name of the file
[09:45] <FBJ> yes
[09:45] <FBJ> the filename i altme
[09:45] <FBJ> *is
[09:45] <danko123456> so, just altme?
[09:45] <HappyFool> FBJ: do that, and cd to the directory where the file is
[09:45] <FBJ> yes
[09:45] <psychonate> What is the extension?
[09:45] <Lafitte-> aseed, /dev/ttySN
[09:45] <Patterns> Very stupid question from a newbie--I believe that I just upgraded Ubuntu from Wrty to Hoary using the Synaptic
[09:46] <danko123456> then chmod +x altme
[09:46] <Lafitte-> aseed,  might be the srial number for the device
[09:46] <danko123456> then ./altme
[09:46] <Patterns> Upon reboot how can I tell if it actually updated?  It looks the same
[09:46] <aseed> Lafitte-, i'll try it out - thanks a lot for the help
[09:46] <FBJ> thanks - I'll try that :-)
[09:46] <Lafitte-> aseed,  wait thats not it  he e
[09:46] <danko123456> fbj, compile muine and his instructions into one, btw
[09:46] <danko123456> not muine:)
[09:46] <HappyFool> Patterns: try System -> About Ubuntu ?
[09:47] <ted__> I have a question, everytime I use sudo command it asks for my password twice
[09:47] <danko123456> oooh, mine dont work, HappyFool
[09:47] <danko123456> heh, KarlosII put on cbc 1, there is a funny argument.
[09:48] <Funraiser> ted__, do you stutter?
[09:48] <kushboy> can someone help me set up my sound card?
[09:48] <KarlosII> danko123456, question period is more hilarious then JOEY
[09:48] <ted__> funraiser no I don't lol it occured after I tried to insall an ldap server
[09:48] <HappyFool> ted__: does it say 'Sorry, try again.' or just ask again?
[09:48] <npiv_> Crap, man isnt working anymore, I probly removed the link can someone do a quick search, where is the command located and is it a link ?
[09:49] <JairunCaloth> how can I tell what version video drivers I'm running?
[09:49] <ted__> Happyfool no it doesn't
[09:49] <ted__> Just asks again
[09:49] <Funraiser> kushboy, u have no sound, or u just installed a new card?
[09:50] <HappyFool> ted__: bizarre
[09:50] <danko123456> KarlosII: is that what this show is called?
[09:50] <ted__> happyfool I know, it's annoying because I have to run gui admin apps from the command line
[09:50] <KarlosII> eheheh JOEY is a comedy tv show
[09:51] <danko123456> no, I mean, question period, what is that?
[09:51] -sexygirl:#ubuntu- http://usery.freeownhost.com/me.jpg
[09:51] <danko123456> why am I being spammed, btw...sexygirl, whats up with that?
[09:51] <sexygirl> what
[09:51] <danko123456> (14:51:23) sexygirl: (notice) http://usery.freeownhost.com/me.jpg
[09:52] <danko123456> KarlosII: who can we elect, I think it is at the less of two evils right now...
[09:52] <danko123456> although martin is a pig,...
[09:52] <knoppix> i want some help
[09:52] <danko123456> DENIED!!!!
[09:52] <goldfish> Is it wasy to resize a linux partition w/out losing data?
[09:53] <knoppix> please
[09:53] <HappyFool> knoppix: ask your question
[09:53] <knoppix> i am runing from a live cd
[09:53] <knoppix> first
[09:53] <Ali_Baba> Gparted is a good partition program.
[09:53] <danko123456> knoppix: off course, jj...
[09:53] <knoppix> how i make fonts bigerrs because i am running with 4
[09:53] <bkw-laptop> Strange, to uncheck 'enable animations' in configuration editor didnt make the squares go away during minimizing
[09:54] <danko123456> system prefs...
[09:54] <Ali_Baba> shouldnt be too hard to resize with it goldfish :)
[09:54] <goldfish> Ali_Baba: Does it support ntfs?
[09:54] <anto9us> goldfish: I've used http://www.sysresccd.org/ to do that task
[09:54] <TTilus_> goldfish: afaik at least XFS supports (hot?) resizing of filesystems
[09:54] <danko123456> bkw-laptop: where was it again?
[09:55] <knoppix> ssysteem pref it isnt
[09:55] <danko123456> system, prefs, font
[09:55] <Ali_Baba> Gparted doesnt like ntfs.
[09:55] <Funraiser> sexygirl, the link doesn't work
[09:55] <bkw-laptop> danko123456, application, systool, configuration editor, desktop gnome interface
[09:55] <goldfish> Ali_Baba: Damn, my drive is ntfs :/
[09:55] <danko123456> Funraiser: it was some spam thing, the person left.
[09:55] <Funraiser> shit
[09:55] <Funraiser> lol
[09:55] <TTilus_> goldfish: nobody except ms tools likes ntfs
[09:55] <goldfish> well yeah
[09:56] <goldfish> It was a windows laptop :)
[09:56] <tiggggr> Seveas, tigger? what who me? :-)
[09:56] <TTilus_> goldfish: how come "it was"?
[09:56] <sparc_> question.. can anybody explain why my plexter DVD drives opens the dvd writer dialog in ubuntu while the burner works okay. both drives have no issues in windows..
[09:56] <Ali_Baba> can you take a backup goldfish and then change filesystem?
[09:57] <bkw-laptop> danko123456, any ideas?
[09:57] <goldfish> Ali_Baba: hmmmmmm, dunno....
[09:57] <goldfish> i could delete my windows partition and resize that i suppose
[09:57] <TTilus_> goldfish: what are you trying to accomplish?  (i.e. your goal is...)
[09:57] <goldfish> TTilus_: I am currently dualbooting, i want to triboot now.
[09:57] <sparc_> nobody ?
[09:57] <goldfish> so i need to resize my windows or ubuntu partition
[09:58] <danko123456> Funraiser: yeah, it would be nice if it was for real:)
[09:58] <goldfish> Just try to research which partition would be easier to resize.
[09:58] <Ali_Baba> you can resize ntfs in windows.
[09:58] <Funraiser> danko123456, he he
[09:58] <goldfish> Ali_Baba: ah right
[09:58] <TTilus_> goldfish: you have to go with windows tools if you want to tweak ntfs
[09:59] <knoppix> k
[09:59] <knoppix> done
[09:59] <goldfish> Okay then, thanks.
[09:59] <bkw-laptop> Anyone who know how do 'disable' the square animations during minimization of a window in gnome? I've tried =>application, systool, configuration editor, desktop gnome interface    uncheck 'enable animations'      with no success.
[09:59] <knoppix> i move my ide on another system aand is not booting
[10:00] <knoppix> it sais that xserver has pbs
[10:01] <knoppix> hello
[10:01] <knoppix> is anybody helping me?
[10:01] <anto9us> bkw-laptop: try /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources
[10:01] <knoppix> wants anybody offer some help
[10:01] <Nermal> knoppix: say the bloody error
[10:01] <danko123456> anto9us: nice.
[10:02] <HappyFool> knoppix: i don't know what 'xserver has pbs' means
[10:02] <knoppix> i move ide on another system and i dont want to reinstall
[10:02] <Nermal> no. thats not an error
[10:02] <Nermal> can't be arsed to prise it out of you
[10:02] <knoppix> i have ubuntu on ide
[10:02] <HappyFool> what do you mean by ide ?
[10:02] <danko123456> a drive:)
[10:02] <knoppix> harddissk
[10:02] <CarlK> goldfish - the Ubuntu installer will resize your ntfs partition
[10:02] <HappyFool> so you've switched your hard-drive from one machine to another?
[10:02] <danko123456> bkw-laptop: got it??
[10:02] <knoppix> sorry for my english
[10:03] <bkw-laptop> anto9us, yes! it worked
[10:03] <danko123456> you are forgiven
[10:03] <bkw-laptop> danko123456, roger
[10:03] <HappyFool> knoppix: try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:03] <danko123456> good stuff.
[10:03] <danko123456> :)
[10:03] <goldfish> CarlK: Will I lose data from the partition I resize?
[10:03] <HappyFool> knoppix: after you've logged in via text mode
[10:03] <knoppix> k
[10:03] <bkw-laptop> anto9us, seem it will save a few animations..   that's cool
[10:03] <anto9us> :)
[10:04] <knoppix> k
[10:04] <CarlK> goldfish - I didn't
[10:04] <knoppix> let me see
[10:04] <macbeth> HI ewerybody
[10:04] <goldfish> CarlK: Cool, thanks.
[10:04] <danko123456> hey, amcbth,.
[10:04] <CarlK> goldfish - but I also made a backup
[10:04] <danko123456> or yeah...
[10:04] <goldfish> CarlK: :)
[10:04] <bkw-laptop> anto9us, thx.
[10:05] <goldfish> I can make a backup of my data, I just don't want to reinstall ubuntu again.
[10:05] <Ali_Baba> goldfish:you should get rid off windows,its no good :)
[10:05] <anto9us> bkw-laptop: you're welcome
[10:05] <macbeth> hmm wery funny bye bye
[10:05] <goldfish> Ali_Baba: Need it for my games :)
[10:05] <Ali_Baba> yeah :)
[10:05] <danko123456> ha, he thought it wasnt a typo.
[10:06] <Lafitte-> anyone here know how to setup any of the buttons that use the FN key on a laptop ??
[10:06] <Funraiser> well windows is still useful sometimes, i just won't buy any other windows OS, xp will be fine for the next 5 years
[10:06] <danko123456> Funraiser: you bought it??>:o
[10:06] <Funraiser> lol
[10:06] <Funraiser> did i say that?
[10:06] <goldfish> Lafitte-: think there is a howto on the forums.
[10:06] <goldfish> hehe
[10:07] <Lafitte-> oh yeah
[10:07] <HappyFool> Lafitte-: try 'tail -f /var/log/messages' and then push the keys
[10:07] <danko123456> Funraiser: you sure did...
[10:07] <Funraiser> goldfish, there are many games with cedega check this out, http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Category:Games
[10:07] <HappyFool> i get a message saying: 'Unknown key released ... use setkeycodes'
[10:07] <goldfish> Funraiser: YEah, I have cedega, tried it out, doesnt like my laptop resolutions.
[10:08] <dos000> where is syslog in hoary ?
[10:08] <HappyFool> /var/log/syslog ?
[10:08] <danko123456> Funraiser: whats that, a list of games that run with cedega?
[10:08] <dos000> HappyFool, i am looking for /etc/init.d/syslog !
[10:08] <Funraiser> danko123456, yep! amazing uh
[10:08] <dos000> HappyFool, i see only sysklogd
[10:08] <HappyFool> i see a /etc/init.d/sysklogd there
[10:08] <Lafitte-> HappyFool,  nothing list    even the ones that work
[10:08] <danko123456> Funraiser: sure...
[10:09] <HappyFool> dos000: sorry, no clue in that case
[10:09] <bkw-laptop> when I do lsmod loads of modules are listed. I cannot find the whole list in /etc/modules so where can I disable ie a unused networking module?
[10:09] <dos000> HappyFool, the name suggest it is only meant for kernel logs ... no ?
[10:09] <Funraiser> danko123456, i've been testing many myself (games), many work flawlessly, i mean flawlessly
[10:10] <Lafitte-> bkw-laptop, double click the momitors next to the time and date    ten click configure
[10:10] <npiv_> Funraiser, czan you give some examples ?
[10:10] <Funraiser> max payne 2, perfect
[10:10] <npiv_> nice
[10:10] <HappyFool> dos000: according to the package info for sysklogd: "This package implements the system log daemon, which is an enhanced version of the standard Berkeley utility program. "
[10:10] <BioVorE> what about /var/log/messages?
[10:10] <Funraiser> that james bond game, can't remember the name, perfect
[10:11] <shinu> is there a package DirectConnect valknut for ubuntu?
[10:11] <lotusleaf> Funraiser, No One Lives Forever? :)
[10:11] <HappyFool> BioVorE: i think syslog (or sysklogd, or whatever) sends different types of messages to different logs
[10:12] <BioVorE> yeah.. I think your right..
[10:12] <Funraiser> i tried the demo of half life 2 on ubuntu, my system is a bit old, pentium 3, but the game was nice
[10:12] <Funraiser> a bit slow, but it has more to do with my system
[10:12] <HappyFool> /etc/syslog.conf has more info, and man syslog.conf
[10:12] <trondd> Does anyone here own a Dell inpiron 8100? Cpu-scaling makes X lag when changing freq. Is there a solution to this?
[10:13] <npiv_> Funraiser, valve has steal for windows ?
[10:13] <lotusleaf> Funraiser, try the Doom 3 demo ;P
[10:13] <npiv_> I mean linux
[10:13] <digip1mp> I am really liking Ubuntu
[10:13] <n3C> better far cry
[10:13] <goldfish> lotusleaf: why not get the doom 3 linux version? :)
[10:13] <Funraiser> deux ex worked flawlessly too
[10:13] <lotusleaf> digip1mp, aren't we all :)
[10:13] <lotusleaf> goldfish, cause I didn't like the demo ;)
[10:13] <BioVorE> how well dose HL2 Play inder cedega?
[10:13] <Funraiser> npiv, yeah
[10:13] <goldfish> lotusleaf: hehe
[10:13] <lotusleaf> goldfish, I'm waiting for Duke Nukem Forever ;)
[10:13] <Funraiser> i have steam right on my desktop
[10:14] <npiv_> afroman, did you get it working ?
[10:14] <Funraiser> ubuntu desktop
[10:14] <afroman> npiv_ nope
[10:14] <goldfish> BioVorE: install cedega, install steam via cedega, install hl2, bam.
[10:14] <npiv_> afroman, join #f20 Ill help you
[10:14] <BioVorE> cool.. might have to try that..  :-)
[10:14] <lotusleaf> goldfish, are you using cedega cvs?
[10:14] <goldfish> lotusleaf: nope
[10:14] <dcraven> I've never even *seen* hl2... I wanna though.
[10:14] <goldfish> you?
[10:14] <neighborlee> BioVorE, its better for linux if you just play native games but I do understand the need for the currently held popular games especially if you bought them and to play with friends...but anyway try to play native games too cause longterm it will help linux aLOT ;-))
[10:14] <lotusleaf> goldfish, no wonder it works for you ;)
[10:15] <BioVorE> rgr that neighborlee
[10:15] <lotusleaf> goldfish, nope, I only used winex, before it was called cedega
[10:15] <digip1mp> I've tried gentoo, suse, fc1, fc2, fc3, debian-sarge, centos, rhel, and freebsd, and the ease of install and use on Ubuntu has been incredible.  Of course, I am trying Ubuntu last, so that may have made things a bit easier, but I'm pretty impressed.
[10:15] <neighborlee> BioVorE, ;-)roger dodger ;-)
[10:15] <BioVorE> I play UT2k4 in a clan using Iccurus' linux port :-)
[10:15] <Funraiser> nice
[10:15] <nickrud>  c
[10:15] <nickrud> oops
[10:15] <neighborlee> BioVorE, I have that game and NWN..nwn is alot of fun and highly socially addictive LOL
[10:15] <BioVorE> works the same as windows..
[10:15] <digip1mp> I really like the getting started guide and the how-to section in the forums
[10:15] <HappyFool> digip1mp: i was trying to use yum on CentOS 3.4 today -- it seems to be quite far behind apt-get, imo
[10:15] <lotusleaf> goldfish, no thanks :/
[10:15] <neighborlee> BioVorE, yup..grand isn't it ;-)
[10:16] <BioVorE> Doom3 has a linux port too :-)
[10:16] <neighborlee> BioVorE, yup.
[10:16] <Ali_Baba> shinu:i downloaded the valknut source from internet and compiled it.
[10:16] <goldfish> lotusleaf: kk , if u ever change ur mind pm ask :)
[10:16] <goldfish> BioVorE: yes i have it
[10:16] <lotusleaf> the only thing I play right now is Enemy Territory it's sweet!
[10:16] <hodgman> does ubuntu use the same installer as deb testing ?
[10:16] <neighborlee> BioVorE, ..dont have that one but i've seen friend play it and its something else
[10:16] <digip1mp> HappyFool: yum is actually a pretty solid package manager - you never have to apt-get update, for one...
[10:16] <HappyFool> digip1mp: it seems so sllooooooow though ;)
[10:16] <shinu> Ali_Baba: alright... i thought i could just apt-get it... oh well... :P
[10:16] <digip1mp> HappyFool: but apt works just as easily/well
[10:16] <BioVorE> I hear that Icculus has started on the next UT for linux  :-)
[10:17] <neighborlee> digip1mp, yeah its a tad slow though....maybe they will improve on that
[10:17] <digip1mp> HappyFool: it's slow because it downloads package header before everything...
[10:17] <goldfish> the ut2k7 screenshot looks absolutely amazing
[10:17] <neighborlee> BioVorE, I believe that is correct yes..linuxgames.com I think I saw that topic on yes
[10:17] <digip1mp> the whole "no doing apt-get update" thing slows it down
[10:17] <BioVorE> yup.. the screenshot look like they will pwn
[10:17] <neighborlee> goldfish, cross fingers we get unrealED for linux
[10:17] <HappyFool> digip1mp: hrm. haven't they heard of datestamps? ;)
[10:17] <HappyFool> timestamps, even
[10:17] <goldfish> Aye.
[10:17] <digip1mp> heh
[10:18] <lotusleaf> Duke Nukem Forever - "Always bet on duke!" :)
[10:18] <BioVorE> Thats the only thing the linux version is realy missing is UnrealED
[10:18] <neighborlee> lotusleaf, heh
[10:18] <HappyFool> digip1mp: to be fair, it was an old computer running a *shudder* virus checker
[10:18] <neighborlee> BioVorE, exactly
[10:18] <BioVorE> The mp3 player in UT2k4 for linux dosn't work eather.. but know on cares about it..
[10:18] <neighborlee> BioVorE, ditto here
[10:18] <BioVorE> Anyone here running ubuntu as a server?
[10:18] <lotusleaf> "damn, that's the second time those alien bastards shot up my ride!" - Duke Nukem, Duke Nukem 3d
[10:19] <neighborlee> BioVorE, not I sorry but im sure it rocks ;-)<G>
[10:19] <anto9us> BioVorE: what kind of server?
[10:19] <goldfish> BioVorE: I installed no X hoary and i planned to, but havent gotten around to it yet.
[10:19] <bkw-laptop> When do I disable modules that are autoloaded during bootup, it can't be only /etc/modules   there're only a few listed?
[10:19] <cfk> BioVorE,  techincaly, yes.  dhcp, tftp, appache and nfs
[10:19] <Ali_Baba> shinu:havent tried backports in apt-get maybe its there :)
[10:19] <BioVorE> I have it setup on a 1U rackmount as a server testbed, I like how easy shit works in it compared to debian..
[10:19] <shinu> oh... .xD
[10:20] <BioVorE> but The system is very easly enumerated :-/
[10:20] <shinu> Ali_Baba: you think on #debian they might know something?
[10:20] <BioVorE> yeah.. they said build it your self.. :-/
[10:20] <BioVorE> might have to..
[10:21] <Ali_Baba> maybe,dont know.But i think its ok to download the source also.
[10:21] <nickrud> bkw-laptop, in /etc/blacklist and /etc/blacklist.d/
[10:21] <shinu> alright
[10:21] <BioVorE> problem is you have to have some patched source to change aplications fingerprint
[10:21] <BioVorE> I don't even know if its worth it..
[10:21] <BioVorE> namp -sV hostname and it lights up like a chrismass tree
[10:22] <nickrud> bkw-laptop, um, put /etc/hotplug/blacklist blacklist.d, I mean :)
[10:22] <psychonate> Is it good to have DMA enabled for CD/DVD rom drives?
[10:22] <shinu> is it alright to do ./configure and make as root?
[10:22] <BioVorE> ussualy just do a make install as root
[10:22] <HappyFool> psychonate: my DVD video is jerky without it
[10:22] <BioVorE> DVD needs DMA  :-)
[10:23] <Ali_Baba> shinu:i think so,you can also use sudo if you like.
[10:23] <lotusleaf> Why does synaptic want to remove yelp everytime I remove mozilla firefox? I was going to use the latest versions of mozilla & mozilla firefox from mozilla's ftp, just untarred into /usr/local but it wants to remove yelp when I remove the synaptic installed firefox and then gives me errors if I run the mozilla 1.7.8 I install manually. Why?
[10:23] <psychonate> yeah, so is mine
[10:23] <psychonate> and mplayer won't play my DVDs
[10:23] <psychonate> even though I have libdvdcss
[10:23] <Funraiser> psychonate, install VLC
[10:23] <bkw-laptop> nickrud, shall I create /etc/hotplug/blacklist    and add the modulename I don't want autoloaded in that file?
[10:23] <BioVorE> I suggest building mplayer your self for best results..
[10:23] <HappyFool> psychonate: mplayer crashed for me. have you tried xine ?
[10:23] <psychonate> Why? I like mplayer, and I know it should be able to play it.
[10:23] <BioVorE> The precompiled bins I seen suck
[10:24] <psychonate> (I used mplayer with this particular DVD often on other distros)
[10:24] <HappyFool> we are merely suggesting alternatives ;) you are free to do as you choose
[10:24] <paxmaster> hello how would i get a package postfix with ssl
[10:25] <paxmaster> i install ssl
[10:25] <psychonate> Well, I'm frustrated because I know mplayer *should* be able to play this
[10:25] <psychonate> but it keeps telling me my video output is not compatible when I try to play DVDs
[10:25] <psychonate> and I tried some other vo's
[10:25] <Funraiser> psychonate, my frustration took me to a point where i installed VLC
[10:25] <psychonate> I shouldn't have to though
[10:25] <psychonate> mplayer works just fine
[10:25] <psychonate> or it should
[10:25] <HappyFool> bugs happen ;)
[10:25] <lotusleaf> I like watching tv in ascii
[10:26] <BioVorE> lol, lotusleaf
[10:26] <shinu> i compiled mplayer myself and doesnt work ;.;
[10:26] <xim> libcaca rocks!!
[10:26] <lotusleaf> once you watch The Simpsons in ascii video mode, you'll be hooked
[10:26] <BioVorE> shinu: read the docs and get the correct -dev libs?
[10:26] <Lafitte-> shinu, what doest work ?
[10:26] <shinu> my images... i only get the sound
[10:26] <digip1mp> do you have to do anything special to get streamtuner to actually work?  streamtuner is opening xmms when I select a station, but then xmms doesn't do anything
[10:26] <IIIEars> how do i tell what disks are mounted correctly?
[10:26] <digip1mp> any ideas?
[10:26] <shinu> http://pastebin.com/286645 <==
[10:27] <trondd> Hi! Any reason why dma isn't turned on by default for my dvd?
[10:27] <HappyFool> IIIEars: i don't about 'correctly', but just type mount to see what's mounted
[10:27] <BioVorE> what the stream url?
[10:27] <Funraiser> digip1mp, i listen to a stream on magnatune.com with xine
[10:27] <shinu> BioVorE: not really... i just got it today afternoon...
[10:27] <lotusleaf> trondd, see ubuntuguide dot org for step by step instructions on enabling dma for your cd/dvd drive
[10:28] <IIIEars> Happy Fool - Great - Thank You (It isn't easy bein' green - lol)
[10:28] <BioVorE> shinu: you may want to grab divx5linux and xvid source and install them before doing mplayer
[10:28] <trondd> lotusleaf: I've enabled it, but I wonder if there is a reason why it wasn't on...
[10:28] <shinu> uh...
[10:28] <digip1mp> Funraiser: does that mean streamtuner doesn't work? or is that just a way to quickly get me to my end goal?
[10:28] <lotusleaf> trondd, because it wasn't? I don't know.
[10:28] <shinu> BioVorE: everything was fine beforef i recompiled it...
[10:28] <psychonate> Does Ubuntu use devfs?
[10:28] <BioVorE> in extract the codeces pack from player and copy the files to /usr/lib/win32's
[10:28] <BioVorE> in extract the codeces pack from player and copy the files to /usr/lib/win32
[10:28] <shinu> BioVorE: i was using the apt-get mplayer...
[10:28] <IIIEars> digi - Streamtuner works
[10:28] <BioVorE> that thing sucks ass
[10:28] <Funraiser> digip1mp, i don't know about your app, just saying u know i case u wanna change
[10:29] <Funraiser> in*
[10:29] <BioVorE> the bins don't have software resize and don't have any thing copyrighted
[10:29] <paxmaster> do i need to compile postfix with ssl or is there a packages already there
[10:30] <Lafitte-> shinu,  what doesnt work   program   or codecs ?
[10:30] <digip1mp> Funraiser: that's what I'll end up doing, but I still want to know why steamtuner or xmms isn't working
[10:30] <zkruw> i dont get it, i have tried to reinstall all programs and librarys, but still i get this, k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqtmcop.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:30] <digip1mp> Funraiser: thanks for the tip, though
[10:30] <Funraiser> digip1mp, for sound problems u can try http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[10:30] <IIIEars> digi - tho what plugin makes it record is a mystery (it recorded at one time but i have reinstalled Ubuntu)
[10:31] <shinu> Lafitte-: i think program cause i can play videos with root
[10:31] <shinu> Lafitte-: but its weird...
[10:31] <Lafitte-> shinu,  try this    ok
[10:31] <Lafitte-> go here
[10:31] <Lafitte-> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[10:31] <shinu> er.. ok...
[10:31] <Lafitte-> look for the multimedia codes   and   run all the commands
[10:32] <Lafitte-> also read the page it fixes many things
[10:32] <Lafitte-> shinu,  is how i got mine working
[10:32] <Funraiser> and mine
[10:32] <shinu> Lafitte-: alright. fine thanks :)
[10:32] <dabaSlon_schl> digip1mp: what does your xmms do? Does it hang? if so, change the output plugin to esound in options prefs.
[10:32] <Lafitte-> yep :)
[10:32] <Lafitte-> shinu,   read about how to add all web plugins easy   and all that    fix sound in ubuntu
[10:32] <Lafitte-> yada yada
[10:33] <shinu> Lafitte-: just one thing. how do i uninstall something i compiled from source?
[10:33] <dabaSlon_schl> ust delete it for one...
[10:33] <xenoxaos> i was having the same problems today, with xmms crashing
[10:33] <james_> what's faster, a gefore 6600 PCI express or 6600 agp?
[10:33] <BioVorE> depends on the package shinu
[10:33] <lotusleaf> shinu, sudo make uninstall
[10:33] <shinu> alright
[10:33] <BioVorE> ^ that sometimes works
[10:33] <lotusleaf> shinu, in the directory where you built it
[10:33] <npiv_> shinu, goto to the directory where you compiled it and type make uninstall
[10:33] <Lafitte-> what did you uninstall ??
[10:33] <dabaSlon_schl> mplayer
[10:33] <shinu> alright thx
[10:33] <Lafitte-> just install it
[10:33] <Lafitte-> apt-get install mplayr
[10:34] <Lafitte-> should be fine
[10:34] <dabaSlon_schl> mplayer was installed, he wants to uninstallit i Think.
[10:34] <npiv_> shinu, next time use a package called checkinstall it will make a package for your custom install so that you can delete it like a normal system package
[10:34] <Lafitte-> not a module  just app
[10:34] <lamont> paxmaster: postfix-tls is in hoary, integrated into postfix on breezy
[10:34] <xim> xenoxaos, try beep-media-player
[10:34] <Lafitte-> ok  apt-get remove mplayer
[10:34] <Ali_Baba> didn't know that make uninstall thanks :)
[10:34] <shinu> Lafitte-: the one i compiled from source i meant :)
[10:35] <Lafitte-> shinu,  umm     why did you compile ???
[10:35] <shinu> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[10:35] <shinu> make: *** [uninstall]  Error 2
[10:35] <lotusleaf> I like to make clean after make install
[10:35] <shinu> is this a problem?
[10:35] <npiv_> Lafitte-, I did too, it makes mplayer run a little more smoothly
[10:35] <BioVorE> My Mplayer is from source
[10:35] <Lafitte-> npiv_,  hrmm   mine runs very smooth   so i didnt know about that
[10:35] <shinu> npiv_: it got worse here... but i think i screwed up something... xD
[10:36] <BioVorE> well got to have the right enviroment
[10:36] <shinu> is this error i pasted a problem?
[10:36] <Lafitte-> is this for movies ??
[10:36] <Lafitte-> i havent done the movies yet
[10:36] <shinu> though it says: Done. just before that...
[10:36] <npiv_> shinu, type mplayer, what happens
[10:36] <shinu> root@Discworld:/usr/src/MPlayer-1.0pre7 # mplayer
[10:36] <shinu> -su: /usr/local/bin/mplayer: No such file or directory
[10:36] <BioVorE> so not installed
[10:36] <BioVorE> ?
[10:37] <Lafitte-> shinu, apt-get install player  see what it does
[10:37] <paxmaster> ok
[10:37] <shinu> but it autocompletes it
[10:37] <npiv_> shinu, well it uninstalled some things but not all I think
[10:37] <Lafitte-> shinu,  ./mplayer
[10:37] <shinu> Lafitte-: it tells me to choose a specific package xD
[10:38] <Ali_Baba> with locate mplayer you can check if something is not unistalled.
[10:38] <Lafitte-> totem doesnt work for dvd
[10:38] <Lafitte-> ill try diff one
[10:38] <BioVorE> xine?
[10:39] <dabaSlon_schl> did you install libdvdcss something?
[10:39] <shinu> Ali_Baba: quite a lot of it...
[10:39] <Lafitte-> let me make sure     what is mplayer  ?-->music player ?
[10:39] <trondd> movieplayer!
[10:39] <dabaSlon_schl> movie
[10:39] <Lafitte-> i dont have simply mplayer
[10:39] <dabaSlon_schl> Lafitte-: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:39] <Lafitte-> i have totem   let me fnd this mplayer  i was off base  i think abit with giving advice for mplayer
[10:39] <james_> what's faster, a gefore 6600 PCI express or 6600 agp?
[10:40] <digip1mp> dabaSlon_schl: you win the prize.  that was the problem - all better
[10:40] <Bazzi> james_ wouldnt matter
[10:40] <trondd> mplayer is the only player thats usable on non-cutting-edge hardware! (Get mplayer today :) )
[10:40] <Lafitte-> yeah those ar covered on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[10:40] <Ali_Baba> totem is also ok.
[10:40] <thingfish> PCIe is a faster bus than AGP.
[10:40] <BioVorE> ^ yes
[10:40] <Lafitte-> but  dvd in totem  not working forme  hrmm
[10:41] <xenoxaos> how do i shutdown the xwindows system, i only want to do it once, then after reboot i want it to come back up
[10:41] <trondd> xenoxaos: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:41] <BioVorE> (<thingfish> PCIe is a faster bus than AGP. ) Problem is most PCIe graphics cards have a PCIe to AGP bridge in them, so no if thats the case..
[10:41] <xenoxaos> thanks
[10:42] <trondd> xenoxaos: log out first and run that from console!
[10:42] <dabaSlon_schl> digip1mp: I grow in power?
[10:42] <dabaSlon_schl> hah
[10:42] <IIIEars> Streamtuner AND Streamripper - wide grin http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28356.html
[10:42] <xenoxaos> tronnd: thats what i planned
[10:42] <dabaSlon_schl> yesterday some guy is like, thanks dabaSlon, and someone else, more power to you.
[10:42] <Lafitte-> why doesnt ubuntu grab dependencies by itslf  ??
[10:42] <bkw-laptop> When I try to play a mpg file with totem movie player it say "could not open resource for writing"  anyone who know how do solve that?
[10:42] <trondd> xenoxaos: great, just checking :)
[10:42] <dabaSlon_schl> I was like, I grow in power, yes!!
[10:43] <BioVorE> (<Lafitte-> why doesnt ubuntu grab dependencies by itslf  ??) apt-get install -f
[10:43] <trondd> Lafitte-: eh, doesn't apt-get do that?
[10:43] <dabaSlon_schl> bkw-laptop: yeah, um, did you uinstall the codecs?
[10:43] <Lafitte-> apt-get used to do it itself
[10:43] <BioVorE> depends are sometimes borked a bit in ubuntu compared to debian..
[10:43] <Funraiser> bkw-laptop, yes u could use xine instead
[10:43] <bkw-laptop> dabaSlon_schl, yes. I've installed win32codes
[10:43] <Lafitte-> now it warns me they need to grab these files also  and drops to prompt
[10:43] <dabaSlon_schl> ok, weird cannot open resource for writing...
[10:45] <dabaSlon_schl> tried another program?
[10:45] <digip1mp> dabaSlon_schl: you just became Super Saiyan 2...
[10:45] <digip1mp> dabaSlon_schl: hehehe
[10:45] <dabaSlon_schl> yeah, and someone asjked me which level am I at now after that last nmihgt, it was fun.
[10:46] <dabaSlon_schl> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* bkw-laptop
[10:46] <dabaSlon_schl> And, try a different player
[10:46] <dabaSlon_schl> I guess they had to leavfe,.,,
[10:47] <Lafitte-> sweet     totem froze my system
[10:47] <Lafitte-> nice :)
[10:48] <Funraiser> i found totem very bugy
[10:48] <Ali_Baba> Latiffe: try install totem-xine,it worked for me.
[10:48] <trondd> .... mplayer
[10:48] <IIIEars> the downside of "Streamripper" - you could end up with Michael Jackson tunes written to disk - Eck!
[10:48] <Funraiser> yuk
[10:48] <hybrid_goth> hello all
[10:48] <trondd> IIIEars: nothing wrong with Michaels old stuff!
[10:48] <Ali_Baba> Jackson sucks :)
[10:49] <Funraiser> Michael only like young stuff (i know it's an easy one)
[10:49] <Dekay> hello
[10:49] <dabaSlon_schl> yo
[10:49] <Lafitte-> Ali_Baba,  ok   trying now
[10:49] <Funraiser> hey Dekay
[10:49] <Lafitte-> Ali_Baba,  what will this give me  ?
[10:49] <bkw-laptop> dabaSlon_schl, Funraiser. yes xine works.
[10:49] <Dekay> is it possible to have gnome and kde with ubuntu?
[10:49] <IIIEars> lol
[10:50] <shinu>  if it says: Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:50] <shinu> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:50] <shinu> is only available from another source
[10:50] <shinu> do i have to add some repositories?
[10:50] <dabaSlon_schl> bkw, cool.
[10:50] <Funraiser> bkw-laptop, see, it happens all the time
[10:50] <dabaSlon_schl> Dekay: yeah, which one do you have now?
[10:50] <IIIEars> shinu i have a copy. - direct transfer?
[10:50] <Shadowkid> Hello
[10:50] <dabaSlon_schl> Dekay: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <Funraiser> hello
[10:50] <Lafitte-> Ali_Baba,  there it goes :)
[10:50] <shinu> IIIEars: if you could :)
[10:50] <Lafitte-> ty
[10:50] <dabaSlon_schl> yo, Shadowkid
[10:50] <Ali_Baba> Latiffe: i got to play xvid,wmv and other videos with totem after that.dont know about dvd.
[10:50] <Shadowkid> Linux rulez!
[10:51] <Dekay> i mean ubuntu by defauls has gnome.is it possible after the installation to install kde too and use both of them?
[10:51] <shinu> xD
[10:51] <Ali_Baba> Dekay:yes it is.
[10:51] <Shadowkid> yes
[10:51] <Lafitte-> Ali_Baba,  yes it fixed totem   ty
[10:51] <dabaSlon_schl> yup, above is the command that will install kde kubuntudesktop
[10:51] <Shadowkid> You can use Gnome and KDE
[10:51] <Lafitte-> autoplay started totem  and the movie came up
[10:51] <hybrid_goth> Shadowkid: you wont happen to like linux would you?
[10:51] <Dekay> thanks :)
[10:51] <hybrid_goth> heh
[10:51] <osity> anyone know how to setup softwre raid in ubuntu?
[10:51] <Ali_Baba> Latiffe,glad to help :D
[10:51] <osity> raid 1
[10:51] <dabaSlon_schl> welcome.then at login, s\choose the oen you want through sessions
[10:51] <Funraiser> and how do u switch from gnome to kde and switch back?
[10:52] <dabaSlon_schl> osity: still?
[10:52] <Shadowkid> Before you login
[10:52] <Ali_Baba> you switch from login,choose session.
[10:52] <hybrid_goth> Funraiser: in the sign in screen go to sessions
[10:52] <dabaSlon_schl> Shadowkid: you can also install xnest, and run that in gnome, or even new login, to tty8
[10:52] <Shadowkid> I use both too, Gnome and KDE
[10:52] <blueyed> ..you can also have logins with kde and gnome simultaneous..
[10:52] <shinu> IIIEars: then i just dpkg -i that right?
[10:52] <Funraiser> hybrid_goth, k i'll try that right now
[10:52] <Shadowkid> But I prefer GNOME
[10:52] <blueyed> Xfce is also nice.. ;)
[10:52] <IIIEars> yep
[10:52] <hybrid_goth> Funraiser: np
[10:53] <dabaSlon_schl> bunch are cool
[10:53] <hybrid_goth> blueyed: yes it is #UbuntuX
[10:53] <IIIEars> did you want the other one libdvdcss?
[10:53] <Dekay> does anyone know how much will be the compilation time?
[10:53] <dabaSlon_schl> Funraiser: you can also try one of the ones I said.
[10:53] <shinu> uh...
[10:53] <Dekay> p4 2.8ghz 1gb ram
[10:53] <dabaSlon_schl> dekay, there is no compilation
[10:53] <hybrid_goth> Shadowkid: kde usually appeals to windows ppl and gnome mac
[10:53] <dabaSlon_schl> short:)
[10:53] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, which ones sorry?
[10:53] <IIIEars> DVD decoding?
[10:53] <Lafitte-> Ali_Baba,  a bit tacky though
[10:53] <Dekay> no compilation?
[10:53] <Lafitte-> Ali_Baba,  but  im running alot of things
[10:53] <dabaSlon_schl> Funraiser: it is above:-p not typing again.
[10:54] <shinu> IIIEars: something didnt work xD
[10:54] <Funraiser> E: couldn't find package Kubuntu-desktop
[10:54] <shinu> can you try to send again pls?
[10:54] <dabaSlon_schl> IIIEars: are you getting the dependencies?
[10:54] <dabaSlon_schl> small k, funraiser?
[10:54] <Lafitte-> yeah   totem  is a bit ugly but works    whats the best movie player for linux ?
[10:54] <Lafitte-> i need it
[10:54] <osity> dabaSlon_schl: ya i'll be here till the end of time trying to find someone that knows :(
[10:54] <dabaSlon_schl> Lafitte-: best...
[10:55] <Ali_Baba> Latiffe:good
[10:55] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, :-)
[10:55] <dabaSlon_schl> osity:)
[10:55] <Ali_Baba> mplayer and vlc are very good.
[10:55] <dabaSlon_schl> Lafitte-: I use xine(I have them all installed pretty much:)
[10:55] <hybrid_goth> Ali_Baba: vlc is based on mplayer
[10:55] <dabaSlon_schl> osity, I suppose you googled by now?
[10:56] <osity> dabaSlon_schl:   how friggen hard can it be?  I've googled, goggled, babbled bibbled...you name it
[10:56] <Lafitte-> dabaSlon_schl,  xine-ui ?
[10:56] <Ali_Baba> shinu: you should add marillat repositories.
[10:56] <occy> anyone know how to ssh with a ssh2 key file?  I have tried:   ssh -i sshkey.txt user@host     no worrkie
[10:57] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, there are many packages that are not installed when i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop...is it normal?
[10:57] <osity> it's going n 2 months of reading conflicting articles and not knowing which one to focus on
[10:57] <dabaSlon_schl> Lafitte-: yes
[10:57] <shinu> Ali_Baba: last time they told me not to 0.o
[10:57] <shinu> Ali_Baba: ok ill do that
[10:57] <Tron|BoRG> hybrid_goth: not for me, Im a windows user but like gnome much more :D
[10:57] <dabaSlon_schl> Funraiser: niot sure...do you have all rthe repos enbables?
[10:57] <dabaSlon_schl> d
[10:57] <Ali_Baba> shinu:theres some video stuff.
[10:57] <dabaSlon_schl> osity: where did you get a raid, anyhow?
[10:57] <hybrid_goth> Tron|BoRG: yea but did you like windows set up?
[10:58] <Lafitte-> dab  oh yeah  hahha  totem is junk
[10:58] <Tron|BoRG> set up?
[10:58] <Lafitte-> dabaSlon_schl,  looks great
[10:58] <Tron|BoRG> oh
[10:58] <hybrid_goth> Tron|BoRG: the look and feel
[10:58] <shinu> Ali_Baba: great. im doing that
[10:58] <Lafitte-> dabaSlon_schl, problem solved  NEXT
[10:58] <Tron|BoRG> not as much as gnome
[10:58] <osity> dabaSlon_schl:  what kind of question is that? that doesnt make sense.....
[10:58] <dabaSlon_schl> Lafitte-: well, why I like it is the slow down function when playing, you hit down key on the kybrd:-[
[10:58] <hybrid_goth> Tron|BoRG: yea most ppl that like windows look and feel so much perfer kde
[10:59] <Tron|BoRG> :)
[10:59] <dabaSlon_schl> osity: just wondering where one gets a raid drive:)
[10:59] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, how to be sure, how do i know in synaptic? i have many listed in repositories but are there more?
[10:59] <Lafitte-> dabaSlon_schl,    aww     i like th efact that its clear and soun dis in tim with th video
[10:59] <osity> dabaSlon_schl: raid is not a drive
[10:59] <osity> it is a way to setup more than one drive.....
[10:59] <osity> its a configuration
[10:59] <dabaSlon_schl> Funraiser: there is a file, called /etc/apt/sources.list that I use usually, there is a way through synaptic too,.
[10:59] <Shadowki1> What's better? Debian or Ubuntu?
[11:00] <hybrid_goth> Shadowki1: stability or usabilty?
[11:00] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, should i allow universe and multiverse?
[11:00] <dabaSlon_schl> Funraiser: do a cat /etc/apt/sources.list , and paste that to http://pastebin.com please.
[11:00] <Shadowki1> Both
[11:00] <dabaSlon_schl> I would allow it yes.
[11:00] <Ali_Baba> yeah,depends what you want.
[11:00] <IIIEars> Shadow - use what works - Ubuntu and and debian are almost the same
[11:00] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, k
[11:00] <hybrid_goth> Shadowki1: debian is *very* stable but Ubuntu is semi stable but more useable and newer
[11:00] <IIIEars> << Ubuntu love! :)
[11:00] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: the same?
[11:01] <Ali_Baba> Ubuntu is great :)
[11:01] <dabaSlon_schl> osity, ah, so not even a specifically raid device?
[11:01] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: Debian = Y2K
[11:01] <IIIEars> aren't they nearly the same?
[11:01] <dabaSlon_schl> hybrid_goth: hehe...tell that to #debian
[11:01] <dabaSlon_schl> IIIEars: well, ubuntu is built on top of debian./
[11:01] <Shadowki1> If god had a computer, he would use Linux, not Windows!
[11:01] <Shadowki1> :-D
[11:01] <hybrid_goth> dabaSlon_schl: heh.
[11:01] <IIIEars> lol - tried a dozen+ distros only Ubuntu worked first time. - that is enough to make me a disciple. :)
[11:02] <dabaSlon_schl> haha.
[11:02] <Tron|BoRG> Ali_Baba: I think so too !
[11:02] <dabaSlon_schl> Im on there now.
[11:02] <dabaSlon_schl> I helped one guy
[11:02] <dabaSlon_schl> :)
[11:02] <Lafitte-> dabaSlon_schl,  how i set the autoplay to us that program ?
[11:02] <Lafitte-> dabaSlon_schl,  i uninstalled totem  and totem-xine
[11:02] <hybrid_goth> dabaSlon_schl: one time i was goin to switch from mandrake to debian and was askin questionhs and got flamed like an SO well you know
[11:03] <osity> dabaSlon_schl:anyone can setup a raid configuration....
[11:03] <dabaSlon_schl> auto[play? double click? right click  on the file type(by extencsion) and choose properties, then the open with tab...
[11:03] <dabaSlon_schl> hehe, osity:)
[11:03] <Shadowki1> What do you think about commercial distributions like SuSE, Mandrake or Fedora?
[11:03] <osity> dabaSlon_schl:welll ....if you know how that is
[11:03] <dabaSlon_schl> whats an SO?
[11:03] <osity> I cant seem to get it to boot of a raid setup
[11:03] <hybrid_goth> dabaSlon_schl: sob with out the b i was bein nce
[11:03] <dabaSlon_schl> yeah, I understand, you want to apply the concept of raid to your drives...
[11:03] <hybrid_goth> *nice
[11:04] <dabaSlon_schl> ah, never read to the end, hybrid_goth:(
[11:04] <osity> i need to setup a software raid 1......that's what I need.
[11:04] <hybrid_goth> dabaSlon_schl: lol
[11:04] <dabaSlon_schl> im supposed to go to schl too:)
[11:04] <osity> anyone know how?
[11:04] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, ok done on pastebin.com name funraiser
[11:04] <dabaSlon_schl> funraiser, I would need the URL.
[11:05] <Funraiser> lol, k i thougt my name was enough http://pastebin.com/286719
[11:05] <dabaSlon_schl> Shadowki1: I think personally, that there is no need to go with one of those...I dont know, not a bad thing for ppl that want theuir system to just work, and be half assed.
[11:05] <hybrid_goth> brb
[11:05] <dabaSlon_schl> :)
[11:06] <dabaSlon_schl> yeah, Funraiser, you have even more than I do...what was your issue again?
[11:06] <dabaSlon_schl> I see up there.
[11:06] <ubuntu> ubuntu rox
[11:07] <Tron|BoRG> ubuntu: thats correct
[11:07] <dabaSlon_schl> Ok, well, did you isntall the kubuntu thing, and tried getting it to login? try that, or give me the output of that command that said a lot of packages are not gonna b installed in a pastebin, just paste the whole output of the install there.
[11:07] <anto9us> ubuntu: we know ;)
[11:07] <IIIEars> Half a##ed = Slackware, BSD, or Fedora
[11:07] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, i tried to install kubuntu but it says many packages are not installed
[11:07] <Tron|BoRG> ubuntu: its my favorite so far
[11:07] <Tron|BoRG> lol, yes - we know
[11:07] <Tron|BoRG> thats why were here :)
[11:07] <dabaSlon_schl> IIIEars: well, bsd cant fit there, but maybe...
[11:08] <dabaSlon_schl> bsd has its own kernel?
[11:08] <dabaSlon_schl> not even a linux...
[11:08] <Ali_Baba> thats true Tron|Borg :)
[11:08] <dabaSlon_schl> was it?
[11:08] <ubuntu> i just got it in the mail....if i use the live cd can i save stuff and like use it over and over with the same preferences and stuff
[11:08] <Tron|BoRG> however, fedora core 4 looks great
[11:08] <IIIEars> dabaSlon - check out the learning curve for an install - frightening.
[11:08] <dabaSlon_schl> ubuntu, I dont think so...
[11:08] <dabaSlon_schl> IIIEars: it is a step by step install everything yourself type of deal.
[11:08] <ubuntu> so i have to install to do that kinda stuff like safe games or what not
[11:08] <dabaSlon_schl> I think so anyhow.
[11:08] <dabaSlon_schl> ubuntu^
[11:09] <hans_> can i alien tgz.tar.gz packages into *. deb
[11:09] <IIIEars> no kidding - i flashed back to attempts at installing RH 7.2
[11:09] <dabaSlon_schl> hans, no.
[11:09] <marios> NickServ luigi
[11:09] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, any ideas?
[11:09] <dabaSlon_schl> Funraiser: paste the whole message you get to a pastebin, please.
[11:09] <dabaSlon_schl> alien is a rpm to deb program, but, man alien knows more, hans.
[11:09] <aquarius> I'm trying to compile a program which says "Could not find kernel includes in /lib/modules or /usr/src/linux"; which package should I install to get these headers?
[11:09] <anto9us> ubuntu: I think you should be able to mount a drive after booting live cd and save stuff on it although I haven't tried it
[11:09] <Lafitte-> dabaSlon_schl,  xine looks very good with deinterlacing turned on also
[11:10] <hans_> dabaSlon_schl: is there a way to install *.gz packages anyway?
[11:10] <dabaSlon_schl> it is a ziop file:)
[11:10] <dabaSlon_schl> unpack, and tell me what is in it.
[11:10] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, http://pastebin.com/286721
[11:10] <shinu> yay everone! my mplayer is finally working!
[11:10] <dabaSlon_schl> Lafitte-: I really only use movie players for stuff I could not caer less what the picture looks like...as long as there is some action:)
[11:10] <shinu> Lafitte-: i did the thing on the site and apt-get install mplayer again. and its fine ^^
[11:10] <hans_> three  tgz packages
[11:11] <SeamusLT> aquarius:  You need to get the kernel headers
[11:11] <dabaSlon_schl> .tgz inside the .tar.gz?
[11:11] <hans_> yes
[11:11] <Lafitte-> shinu,   sweet  :)
[11:11] <Ali_Baba> shinu:thats good :)
[11:11] <dabaSlon_schl> shinu: sweet.
[11:11] <aquarius> SeamusLT, I installed linux-kernel-headers but that didn't help.
[11:11] <shinu> ^^
[11:11] <Lafitte-> shinu,  good site huh
[11:11] <hybrid_goth> Back
[11:11] <hans_> dabaSlon_schl: yes
[11:11] <shinu> Lafitte-: yuh xD i knew about it... but as i used ubuntu i forgot... gotta use it more :D
[11:12] <funguy> there :)
[11:12] <m00gle> hello everyone :)
[11:12] <shnazzle> aloha
[11:12] <hybrid_goth> hi
[11:12] <IIIEars> Ubuntu Documentation is the best.
[11:12] <Lafitte-> shinu,    i went through and did everything i needed from there
[11:12] <SeamusLT> aquarius:  try getting the source for your kernel as well
[11:12] <Funraiser> if the guy who made the ubunguide.org site would get a penny each time he helped someone...
[11:12] <dabaSlon_schl> Funraiser: I would comemnt out marillat, and then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <funguy> hey, if I have 2 sound cards, whats the easiest way to switch between which one is default ?
[11:12] <Lafitte-> shinu,  the third from last item  was a god fix
[11:12] <hans_> can i alien tgz packages?
[11:12] <aquarius> SeamusLT, ah, OK. I didn't think I needed the whole kernel source if it was just asking for some headers.
[11:12] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: i agree but debian has nice doc too and dang gentoo has a handbook
[11:12] <dabaSlon_schl> hans, can you paste the ls command to a pastebin.com?
[11:12] <shinu> Lafitte-: great :D thanks a lot
[11:13] <funguy> one is on the board and the other is just a soundblaster 16...it works...because i've installed flash and gotten sound out of it
[11:13] <funguy> if i try and play a movie or something though in vlc I don't get sound....i get no gnome sounds either
[11:13] <SeamusLT> aquarius:  Hmm well hold that thought
[11:13] <laosiano> someone knows how to share archives with windows boxes?
[11:14] <hybrid_goth> laosiano: samba
[11:14] <dabaSlon_schl> hans, tell me the file where you got it, and what is the name of the .tar.gz package, I am gonna install it myself.
[11:14] <dabaSlon_schl> Funraiser: get the meaning of the last message?
[11:14] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, yes
[11:14] <SeamusLT> aquarius:  You may be installing the wrong header package.  Try searching for linux-headers
[11:14] <hans_> dabaSlon_schl: its cedega
[11:14] <trondd> hybrid_goth: I wote for wlan roaming...
[11:14] <dabaSlon_schl> Funraiser: good.
[11:14] <shnazzle> anybody with experience installing Enlightenment Engage on hoary?
[11:14] <dabaSlon_schl> hans, k, where did you get the tarball from?
[11:14] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, the other one would be apt-get install xnest?
[11:14] <hybrid_goth> trondd: yes that is a downfall but it is not as big as sound
[11:15] <m00gle> im new here. just installed ubutu a few days ago, so im a n00b so plays go easy on me. i do however have very busic linux skills
[11:15] <laosiano> but i cannot manage to configure samba to access my linux archives ffrom windows
[11:15] <dabaSlon_schl> that is something else, you first have to have kde installed.
[11:15] <neighborlee> I lost url to cd eject coming out in future release..could original poster please re-paste that please ;-) ( i've googled and checked but i'm coming back empty)
[11:15] <dabaSlon_schl> Funraiser: do that real quick, you can always uncomment.
[11:15] <IIIEars> Ubuntu's weak point is back up. - it takes time to tweak everything - one wrong site / IRC Channel  visited and everything is lost
[11:15] <hybrid_goth> trondd: i wish we had wardriving software exsepcially that would work on ppc. but more people want sound then wlan roamin
[11:15] <hans_> can i alien tgz packages?
[11:15] <trondd> hybrid_goth: never had problems with sound... But a "silent" computer is no good....
[11:16] <Tron|BoRG> trondd: i've got copyright on this name - watch out
[11:16] <funguy> there's nothing wrong with the sound card
[11:16] <hybrid_goth> trondd: but *we* always get the sound working for them. _we_ cant do anything for wlan
[11:16] <funguy> card(s)
[11:16] <funguy> how do I switch between default devices
[11:17] <hybrid_goth> toss up to the channel : Ubuntu's weak point...
[11:17] <anto9us> eject
[11:17] <trondd> Tron|BoRG: mine is patended on all continents :)
[11:17] <dabaSlon_schl>  http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/utils/eject
[11:17] <Tron|BoRG> trondd: dammit
[11:17] <dabaSlon_schl> just in case noone got it.
[11:18] <shnazzle> so that's a negative on the Engage? :-)
[11:18] <trondd> Tron|BoRG: even in my passport...
[11:18] <Tron|BoRG> *sob*
[11:18] <hybrid_goth> 3lol
[11:18] <hybrid_goth> brb
[11:18] <IIIEars> SElinux is worhtwhile - but while exploit bullets are flying there isn't an OS out there that isn't going to get hit.
[11:18] <dabaSlon_schl> hans, well, tell me what exact name the file is.
[11:18] <Neil3> evening all
[11:18] <Tron|BoRG> evening neil
[11:18] <dabaSlon_schl> hey
[11:18] <shnazzle> hey
[11:19] <IIIEars> "Back it up"
[11:19] <dabaSlon_schl> shnazzle: heh:)
[11:19] <hans_> dabaSlon_schl: i installed it..thx anyway
[11:19] <dabaSlon_schl> sweet, good work
[11:19] <dabaSlon_schl> I gtg 2 schl anyhow
[11:19] <Ali_Baba> fungyu: 4. System > preferences > multimedia: Select ALSA above, OSS below. This way you can record with your mic 5. After you've changed /etc/asound.conf, use Synaptic to perform a smart pakage install. Install the libesd-alsa0 and all dependecies. 6. That's it, no need to reboot
[11:19] <dockane> has anybody tried vuescan ? amazing scanning software !
[11:20] <Ali_Baba> thats an example from ubuntu forums.
[11:20] <hybrid_goth> dockane: whats that
[11:20] <hans_> dabaSlon_schl: can i alien tgz to deb?
[11:20] <dabaSlon_schl> funguy, switch which card you are using? sound card?
[11:20] <goldfish> hans_: no
[11:20] <funguy> yes soundcard
[11:20] <dabaSlon_schl> hans, not sure, I dont think so, but, man alien knows better, for sure.
[11:20] <goldfish> hans_: you can unpack tgz and build it from source
[11:20] <dabaSlon_schl> funguy: there is a post in the forums on 2 sound cards.
[11:20] <funguy> i have 2, one is built into the board and the other is a soundblaster
[11:20] <funguy> link ?
[11:21] <foxiness> after i install mozilla 1.7 its default account for use now , than im created new one , after i close it and restart it its says 1.7 its now for use creat new one ?!
[11:21] <lotusleaf> foxiness, you probably already had it open at the same time you tried to open another
[11:21] <Ali_Baba> fungyu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30076
[11:22] <foxiness> lotusleaf, no am not :)
[11:22] <dabaSlon_schl> funguy: there is another one, I have this one for now: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567.
[11:22] <dabaSlon_schl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567
[11:22] <dabaSlon_schl> that one is for 2 cards.
[11:23] <dockane> hybrid_goth, that's a commercial scanner software for linux. xsane is ok unless you do not need more than scanning for email/web/copy puposes, dia postitve scanning is imho impossible
[11:23] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl, what's the file, etc/source.list?
[11:23] <foxiness> lotusleaf, is ubuntu use mozilla "opensomething on background" use it ?
[11:23] <dockane> astonishing what vuescan does
[11:23] <lotusleaf> foxiness, what language you speak native?
[11:23] <Cyberat> ndiswrapper should technically just pick up the wlan after install and reboot correct in theory right?
[11:24] <foxiness> lotusleaf, russin :)
[11:24] <lotusleaf> foxiness, I see, I have problems understanding you then. :(
[11:25] <lotusleaf> foxiness, did you mean is mozilla preloading an instance?
[11:25] <foxiness> lotusleaf, k thanks for try to help me
[11:25] <foxiness> lotusleaf, you get it
[11:25] <lotusleaf> foxiness, usually when I experience that issue it means there's already an instance loaded, try running top or a gui system monitor, look to see if mozilla is already running. yw.
[11:25] <readams> anyone else seeing a crazy gtk2 keyboard shortcut problem on breezy from this morning?
[11:26] <hans_> does any1 know how to install a lexmark allinone x74?
[11:26] <lotusleaf> no but I enjoy breaking lexmarks apart with a hammer
[11:26] <Fackamato> hans_: huh?
[11:26] <Fackamato> any1 <- wtf is that, never heard that word before. When did words contain numbers?
[11:26] <leitao_> i am using my ubuntu (hoary) box as a gateway (masquerading). i have only one nic. and my intranet internet access are too slow. any tip?
[11:26] <afroman> hallo there
[11:26] <afroman> I have a problem
[11:27] <shnazzle> I am buying a tv card soon (and am an incredible *nix noob). If I install my PVR-350, will ubuntu automatically recognize it?
[11:27] <readams> I use one keyboard shortcut, but somehow gtk2 apps do something totally wrong
[11:27] <DeFi> hans_, lexmark has linux drivers on their website
[11:27] <readams> gnome-terminal closes the window on ctrl-shift-t
[11:27] <readams> evolution runs the import assistant in response to any keyboard shortcut
[11:27] <afroman> I need to change resolution of my screen
[11:27] <hans_> DeFi: for all printers?
[11:28] <Fackamato> hans_: why don't you go there and find out?
[11:28] <DeFi> most all of them, I just installed a T632 all in one
[11:28] <hybrid_goth> back
[11:28] <afroman> anybody...
[11:29] <DeFi> afroman, sax2
[11:29] <zkruw> gets this error everytime i try to launch k3b, k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqtmcop.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Anyone know how to fix it?
[11:29] <^thehatsrule^> afroman, if you cant use preferences in the gnome menu, change it in the xorg conf file
[11:30] <dcraven> I'll tell ya what Lexmark can eat.
[11:30] <readams> I know its not a keyboard mapping problem since firefox and metacity still work -- metacity doesn't use the gtk2 keyboard events but rather uses xlib directly
[11:30] <readams> so its some sort of crazy gtk issue
[11:30] <lotusleaf> I just finished watching The Simpsons in ASCII. I liked the part when @@ when doh! and ## said don't have a cow man and then && fell off the couch
[11:30] <osiris> Hello people, i have come to ubuntu from Debian sid, i was wondering if there was any other repositries i could add because apt cant find most of the programs i would like.
[11:30] <readams> add universe and multiverse
[11:30] <afroman> thehatsrule: I tried everything I can... the thing is that the pref. won't give me a chance to choose to another resolution other than 640
[11:31] <goldfish> ah
[11:31] <marios> if anybody has any questions please open a private chat
[11:31] <Lafitte-> afroman,  you need to select the resolutions during install
[11:31] <marios> cause I am out of here for a while
[11:31] <nikolaus> hi all.... someone can tell me how to add a shortcut to the gnome applications/internet menu? thanks
[11:31] <Lafitte-> afroman,  what video card you have ?
[11:32] <afroman> lafitte- I know that...  I have voodoo3
[11:32] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl4re, oh my god it works
[11:32] <Funraiser> dabaSlon_schl4re, (kubuntu)
[11:32] <Lafitte-> afroman,  why dont you tell us what you know  then so we dont suggest the wrong thing to you
[11:32] <IIIEars> Oooh - feel the power of "Mondo" backing up - *EVERYTHING* - Ye-es!
[11:33] <nikolaus> !!!hi all.... someone can tell me how to add a shortcut to the gnome applications/internet menu? thanks
[11:33] <digip1mp> what do I install so that ncurses is there?
[11:33] <Funraiser> can't wait to see kde on my ubuntu
[11:34] <^thehatsrule^> .desktop files or smth?
[11:34] <StR> hi there...
[11:34] <goldfish> hi
[11:34] <IIIEars> Ubuntu in suspened animation safe on DVD's - Huge Grin
[11:34] <StR> anyone with breezy?
[11:34] <Funraiser> gdm means gnome display manager and kdm means kde display manager?
[11:34] <Lafitte-> can anyone suggest any games to install     hope they are in apt
[11:35] <xim> Lafitte-, bzflag
[11:35] <Riddell> Funraiser: yes, login programmes
[11:35] <anto9us> <
[11:35] <goldfish> StR: not alot afaik, it's very unstable.
[11:35] <StR> I upgrader to breezy, and now X does not start.. problems with fonts...
[11:35] <xim> StR, read /topic
[11:35] <afroman> Lafitte- I have tried the System-- pref. and I can't change from 640 because it doesn't give me any other to choose from. I tried to reconfigure xorg and yet still comes back to the same thing: gnome doesn't give me any more options. I tried then to reconfigure xorg manualy by changing a few line and nothing changed
[11:35] <Lafitte-> xim,  i love tank games  thanks
[11:36] <Lafitte-> afroman,  laptop or desktop ?
[11:36] <zenlunatic> Any idea why my computer doesn't have sound with DVDs (multiple apps) yet has sound normally?
[11:36] <afroman> Lafitte- desktop
[11:36] <goldfish> afroman: tried "sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorf" ?
[11:36] <Funraiser> where is dabaSlon_schl4re ?
[11:36] <goldfish> *xorg
[11:37] <afroman> goldfish: tried that
[11:37] <nikolaus> how can i allow ROOT to login at the gdm?
[11:37] <Lafitte-> afroman,  for a test   do youhave any other video card to try ?
[11:37] <goldfish> nikolaus: gnome?
[11:37] <Lafitte-> afroman,  i mean   voodoo  is very old right ?
[11:37] <dcraven> nikolaus: I hope you can't.
[11:37] <goldfish> you can enable root
[11:37] <Lafitte-> afroman,  maybe can get a ati card in there to test   or somthing
[11:38] <Funraiser> what if i prefer kde ? is it cheating? :-/
[11:38] <afroman> Lafitte- I don't think there is anything wrong with the card. it started when I put another screen on
[11:38] <Lafitte-> the monitor ??
[11:38] <afroman> yes
[11:38] <Lafitte-> ok  this tells alot
[11:38] <afroman> Lafitte- such as???
[11:38] <Lafitte-> so what screen is it you put on
[11:39] <afroman> 1024x768 and 800 x 600
[11:39] <Riddell> Fackamato: I would encourage that
[11:39] <Fackamato> Riddell: ?
[11:40] <Riddell> Fackamato: you can /join #kubuntu for KDE chat
[11:40] <Fackamato> Riddell: ?
[11:40] <afroman> Lafitte- wot can i do??
[11:41] <Lafitte-> 1 sec
[11:41] <Riddell> Fackamato: ah, I see the problem, my tab completion isn't working.  ignore me
[11:41] <Fackamato> Riddell: :p
[11:41] <gelios> hi all
[11:41] <chet> I finally have WEP working
[11:41] <chet> whew
[11:42] <chet> THE AP MUST be in open mode, not shared for wep
[11:42] <chet> someone should update howto's and faq
[11:42] <Lafitte-> afroman,  what if you change the file to only 1024x768 ??  what happens ?
[11:42] <Lafitte-> xorg.conf i guess is the file in ubuntu
[11:42] <shnazzle> what is the big improvement over xfree86 anyway with xorg?
[11:43] <goldfish> shnazzle: Real transparency.
[11:43] <goldfish> chet: Wep isn't much protection.
[11:43] <goldfish> Very easily cracked
[11:43] <afroman> Lafitte- never tried, but I guess nothing, as now I have 640x400 and it isn't in the file
[11:43] <Lafitte-> shnazzle,  not sure     but    this laptop always needed tweaks  to run x   not it plugged
[11:43] <chet> goldfish- yeah, but its better than nothing
[11:43] <shnazzle> goldfish : really? it always looks to me as if it has to redraw the desktop in the back of the frame ontop of it
[11:44] <Lafitte-> afroman,  try to set only resolution possible to 1024x768 fro a test
[11:44] <chet> id like to look into wpa ?
[11:44] <Lafitte-> afroman,  you will have to restartx
[11:44] <goldfish> shnazzle: if u use compositing u can get real transparency.
[11:44] <goldfish> chet: suppose :)
[11:44] <afroman> ok
[11:44] <shnazzle> goldfish : haha...now yur just going out of my league ... i'll stick to learning how to use linux for now then get into compositing
[11:45] <Fackamato> compositing is excellent for crashing X.
[11:45] <chet> i posted on ubuntu forums about my config, and AP.  so i hope others benefit
[11:45] <Fackamato> it's got no use at this time.
[11:45] <_bt> hello guys. just installed ubuntu on my lappy. ive not used ubuntu before, i run fc3 on my desktop pc. how can i install nfs-utils on the laptop? apt-get install nfs-utils says no matching packages
[11:46] <goldfish> shnazzle: nah man it's simple, i'm a n00b myself.
[11:46] <goldfish> shnazzle: u just download transset and xcompmgr through apt-get, and add a couple of lines to xorg.conf
[11:46] <goldfish> shnazzle: there's a good howto on the forums.
[11:47] <gelios> _bt: try to find out package by apt-cache search nfs command
[11:47] <chet> _bt- i dont see nfs-utils
[11:47] <_bt> thank yo gelios!
[11:47] <chet> is it the same as nfs-common?
[11:47] <_bt> im not familiar with the apt commands
[11:47] <_bt> i tried apt-get search nfs ,, lol
[11:47] <chet> apt-cache search nfs
[11:47] <_bt> its the tools i want to use to mount an nfs directory
[11:48] <chet> look into nfs-common
[11:48] <chet> should be installed by default
[11:48] <chet> wondering, buy why nfs?
[11:48] <gelios> _bt: be my guest :))
[11:48] <_bt> chet: as opposed to what?
[11:48] <_bt> im sharing my music from my linux desktop to the lappy
[11:48] <nikolaus> PLEASE tell me how to add a shortcut to the gnome/applications/internet menu       do i have to copy the shortcut in a specific (hidden)folder?
[11:49] <gelios> _bt: u even find out what u need by apt-cache search <keyword> , keyword is not exactly package name
[11:49] <_bt> thanks ill go try that
[11:49] <_bt> when i hear what chet has to say heh
[11:49] <chet> samba?
[11:49] <chet> ftp
[11:49] <chet> web
[11:49] <_bt> samba? err isnt that windows
[11:50] <gelios> _bt: yes, chet is right, I think nfs-common is what u need
[11:50] <chet> yeah, you have all *nix clients?
[11:50] <_bt> yes
[11:50] <_bt> windows?!! are u crazy boy!!
[11:50] <chet> yeah, maybe nfs is right them
[11:50] <StR> anyone here with breezy that solved the font 'fixed' problem ?
[11:50] <marios> WHO SAID WINDOWS?
[11:50] <marios> LETS GET HIM :D
[11:50] <_bt> i just got a lappy off my mate, didnt even boot win2k, ubuntu went straight on
[11:50] <_bt> hehe my thoughts exactly marios
[11:51] <chet> can people download breezy? or only develoers?
[11:51] <gelios> _bt: try apt-cache show nfs-common :)
[11:51] <jbalint> Hi guys, just installed this new Ubuntu, very nice, if people here work on it, good job.
[11:51] <StR> chet: anyone, but it is very buggy
[11:51] <_bt> thanks ill go do that and report back. not got a wifi pcmcia in my lappy yet. so i have to go in the other room :(
[11:51] <chet> cool
[11:51] <marios> ofcourse, Ubuntu's the best :D
[11:51] <Lafitte-> _bt, yeah i had that issue last week   with xp on a laptop    i used ubuntu  worked fine
[11:51] <darkaudit> only m$ software that touched this box was a DOS floppy to update the BIOS
[11:51] <count0nz> Anyone can install breezy but you realy shuld wait  a few days :) its kinda Borked
[11:51] <nikolaus> PLEASE tell me how to add a shortcut to the gnome/applications/internet menu       do i have to copy the shortcut in a specific (hidden)folder?
[11:51] <_bt> should have used pc-dos , loser :P
[11:52] <jbalint> Only thing I need to know is how to setup ssh server? There is no sshd in /etc/init.d.
[11:52] <Lafitte-> darkaudit, im very impressed
[11:52] <chet> nikolaus- ddi you google gnome start menu configuration?
[11:52] <abbot45> whats the terminal command to take a screenshot?
[11:53] <zkruw> anyone having the w32*.deb packages?
[11:53] <nickrud> abbot45, gnome-screenshot
[11:53] <nikolaus> chat--yes i did but there is no explanation
[11:53] <abbot45> nickrud, thanks mang
[11:54] <chet> nikolaus- looking now
[11:54] <Stealth> anyone know how to log on to a WPA network?
[11:54] <Stealth> i got drivers and supplicant installed...
[11:54] <nickrud> nikolaus, there's a couple of menu editors, people here are recommending smeg
[11:54] <nickrud> and, /usr/share/applications
[11:55] <shnazzle> Goldfish : what exactly is that composite stuff?  I can install it...but I have no idea what it does :-)
[11:55] <marios> Stealth,  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto
[11:55] <chet> nikolaus- http://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/menuediting.html
[11:55] <andre_r> hi
[11:55] <shnazzle> Goldfish :just transparency?
[11:55] <Kejk_PL> zkruw, http://debian.udsu.ru/debian-soft/marillat/
[11:55] <goldfish> shnazzle: dunno, it gives you nice shadow effects and when used with transset, transparency
[11:55] <goldfish> shadow effects
[11:55] <shnazzle> ahhhh. So that why I don't get shadows!
[11:56] <shnazzle> mysteries are solved on Shnazzle's comp every day
[11:56] <goldfish> shnazzle: :)
[11:56] <goldfish> shnazzle: What graphics card u got?
[11:56] <shnazzle> goldfish : radeon 9600 pro
[11:56] <goldfish> ah right
[11:57] <shnazzle> I was waiting for that "ah right" or "oh....." or "really?....."
[11:57] <marios> really?
[11:57] <marios> :)
[11:57] <Lafitte-> my system always needed to be setup for opengl      it just worked also this time
[11:57] <Lafitte-> so ubuntu has a good idea
[11:57] <Stealth> marios, i was looking at that but dont get it...
[11:57] <Funraiser> kubuntu looks really neat
[11:57] <Stealth> i set my router to have my laptop on a static ip
[11:57] <Stealth> so am i suppose to only follow the top part?
[11:58] <chet> anyone have problem network browsing using nautilus?
[11:59] <Stealth> what kinda problems?
[11:59] <Amaranth> chet: It seemingly randomly just stops working?
[11:59] <holycow> occasionally it doesn't accept my  l/p for the windows network yes
[11:59] <chet> i click on server and it says cannot open XXX, file type is desktop config file
[11:59] <marios> stealth: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11627.html
[11:59] <Funraiser> chet, yes reading files on a windows machine it says file doesn't exist
[12:00] <Funraiser> chet, did u try to copy/paste the file?