[16:33] <ZeH> im changing some settings in grub how do i save it? each time i reboot they have disapeared
[16:33] <nuxil> ZeH,  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.1st
[16:33] <Strangelet> I am having issues with SKIM, for some reason or another, it cannot detect any of my input languages (English and simplified Chinese). When I left-click the icon, I only find a blank box. Why is this??
[16:34] <nuxil> edit and save
[16:34] <ZeH> nuxil ok will try
[16:36] <pushax> If anyone hasn't got Java working in Hardy Heron then here's a solution. ; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/173966
[16:37] <Jucato> pushax: might want to share that with #ubuntu+1 too (unless that's where you got it from
[16:38] <pushax> I tried to get java working for a week.  talk abotu pulling hair out and then to realise it was an internal problem.
[16:39] <ZeH> nuxil thx it worked
[16:39] <nuxil> np
[16:40] <Abdulz> for dictd what is the name of the database that contains the words and definitions ?
[16:45] <storbeck> Abdulz, How is your question related to needing help with Kubuntu?
[16:45] <Abdulz> storbeck kubuntu can isntall dcitonary like dictd
[16:45] <Abdulz> storbeck iam a kubuntu user.
[16:47] <jussi01> is there a way to record from tvtime?
[16:48] <nuxil> Abdulz, /etc/dictionaries-common/words perhaps ?
[16:48] <nuxil> jussi01, pvr card ?
[16:50] <jussi01> nuxil: I guess, (not knowing what pvr is) but lspci lists: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture
[16:50] <jussi01> tvtime works nicely, just want to record
[16:50] <nuxil> then its not pvr
[16:51] <nuxil> jussi01, afik you cant rec wit tvtime.. try zapping instead
[16:51] <jussi01> nuxil: its a normal tv input card, you can choose channels through normal tv input, or you can plug a digibox or dvd in via svideo or rca
[16:52] <nuxil> i know what card type it is.. i had one of thouse a time back.
[16:53] <nuxil> i cant remember how i did what you want. its been years since i did it..
[16:54] <nuxil> do you want to rec tv or from input ?
[16:54] <Abdulz> nuxil ok
[16:56] <Strangelet> How do I find the configuration files for most apps.?
[16:56] <jawee> Strangelet: most of your user config files are in your home directory as hidden directories
[16:57] <jawee> Strangelet: do "ls -a ~" sans quotes to see the hidden files and directories too
[16:57] <nuxil> Strangelet, ,  depends on what you mean by most apps. ~/.kde and /etc
[17:00] <administrateur> #ubuntu-fr
[17:00] <nuxil> + /join
[17:04] <noaXess_kubuntu> ihave allways my sound isue.. only theheadphone jack work.. the internal notebook speaker won't.. alsamixer seams working fine.. aplay -l lists my sound card: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC883 Analog/Digital
[17:09] <Seldaek> where can I get a roadmap for ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[17:10] <nuxil> try a gas station :p
[17:11] <nuxil> or look on the hp
[17:11] <Seldaek> well I am
[17:11] <Seldaek> but it's full of commercial bullshit and not so much technical info
[17:13] <jhutchins> Seldaek: What sort of a roadmap are you looking for?
[17:14] <Seldaek> next versions and expected release dates
[17:15] <jhutchins> I'm sure there's stuff about that on the wiki.
[17:15] <jhutchins> In fact, I think I've seen it referred to as a roadmap.
[17:15] <Seldaek> well it's a common programming/tech term
[17:15] <jhutchins> Release dates tend to be April/October
[17:16] <Seldaek> you're right
[17:16] <JoshOvki> Are there any video converters for kubuntu, i have a new mp4 player and all films need to be converted to a smaller size.
[17:16] <Seldaek> found it on wiki/Releases
[17:17] <SlimeyPete> JoshOvki: try looking for a kde frontend for mencoder
[17:17] <nuxil> JoshOvki, transcode
[17:17] <voyager_> hola ayuda...
[17:17] <cuznt> i am getting sound through my input line but not my browser in kubuntu gutsy
[17:17] <voyager_> alguien me ayudaria
[17:17] <voyager_> +por una pequeña duda
[17:18] <voyager_> una vez cambiada la lista de repositorios que tengo que hjacer para que la reconozca???
[17:18] <nuxil> engluish please
[17:18] <nuxil> *english
[17:18] <voyager_> ok ciao
[17:18] <JoshOvki> thanks SlimeyPete 7 nuxil
[17:18] <nuxil> ciao
[17:18] <JoshOvki> *&
[17:18] <Seldaek> jhutchins: well I guess I'll wait for the april release before installing, kubuntu comes at the same time as ubuntu I suppose?
[17:19] <voyager_> help please
[17:19] <voyager_> channel kubuntu espanish please
[17:20] <nuxil> !es'
[17:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es' - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:20] <voyager_> channel kubuntu spanish please
[17:20] <nuxil> !es
[17:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:22] <jhutchins> Seldaek: Yes, but I don't get why wait.
[17:23] <icheyne> hi all - I'm getting really frustrated because whenever I logout, my PCM volume mixer setting keeps resetting itself to a really quiet volume. How do I keep it high permanently?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> icheyne, have you set the vol ctrls in alsamixer ?
[17:27] <icheyne> no I haven't
[17:27] <icheyne> I can do it in alsamixer
[17:27] <icheyne> but how do I make it remember that?
[17:27] <icheyne> hang on I'll try
[17:28] <nuxil> icheyne, i have had same problem
[17:28] <nuxil> only way i could fix it was like this
[17:28] <nuxil> run this command
[17:28] <nuxil> echo -e '#!/bin/bash\ndcop kmix Mixer0 setMasterVolume 100' > ~/.kde/Autostart/setvolume
[17:28] <icheyne> awesome
[17:28] <icheyne> I'll try now
[17:28] <icheyne> thanks
[17:29] <nuxil> wait
[17:29] <nuxil> also chmod 755 /.kde/Autostart/setvolume
[17:29] <nuxil> then try
[17:29] <ZeH> found some info on a forum and he says i should type "sudo gedit ......" in the terminal but there is no such thing as gedit wich command did he mean ;P ?
[17:29] <icheyne> what is the \ndcop bit about
[17:29] <icheyne> ZeH: in Kubuntu try sudo kedit
[17:29] <nuxil> it sets the volume trough dcop service
[17:29] <ZeH> icheyne ok
[17:29] <icheyne> thanks nuxil
[17:29] <icheyne> I'll try now
[17:30] <BluesKaj> nuxil, i like your command but setting the volume to 100 is much too high , just around 71% is below clipping
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> ZeH: its "kdesudo kate"
[17:30] <ZeH> icheyne didnt work either
[17:30] <icheyne> won't that command just set the
[17:30] <ZeH> nosrednaekim ok will try
[17:30] <icheyne> master volume high - not just the PCM?
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> ZeH: if you are on fiesty or previous, it will be "kdesu kate"
[17:30] <nuxil> you want both?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> ZeH, gedit is the editor for the gnome desktop , kate is the editor for kde (kubuntu)
[17:31] <icheyne> ZeH: yes it should have been "kdesu kate" or "kdesu kwrite"
[17:31] <Flare183> d_mitry: see?
[17:31] <ZeH> nosrednaekim ok kdesu kate worked
[17:31] <ZeH> thx
[17:31] <icheyne> nuxil: just PCM really
[17:31] <nuxil> ok
[17:32] <icheyne> would the command be? "echo -e '#!/bin/bash\ndcop kmix Mixer0 setPCMVolume 100' > ~/.kde/Autostart/setvolume"
[17:32] <d_mitry> Flare183, see what? :P
[17:32] <Flare183> !autostart | d_mitry
[17:32] <ubotu> d_mitry: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[17:32] <Flare183> that
[17:32] <d_mitry> oh, k. thanks.
[17:32] <d_mitry> it's not a program, but one command.
[17:33] <Flare183> d_mitry: exactly
[17:33] <BluesKaj> icheyne, also opening alsamixer in the terminal, setting the ctrls , then under session choose quit instead of just exiting on X
[17:34] <icheyne> BluesKaj: thanks I'll try that too :)
[17:34] <BluesKaj> icheyne, have you set the sound system up in system settings
[17:34] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:35] <icheyne> BluesKaj: just checking
[17:35] <Maxim000> there are no bootlog in /var/log. Just /var/log/boot with one string "(Nothing has been logged yet.)" How can I enable bootlogging?
[17:35] <sigma_1234> what exactly changed in hardy 6? looks the same to me except for the kde version updates
[17:35] <icheyne> BluesKaj: there's not much to setup?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> icheyne, hardware
[17:35] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: there should be a compiz config tool int here somewhere
[17:36] <icheyne> BluesKaj: there aren't too many settings I can tweak?
[17:36] <icheyne> BluesKaj: even in the hardware section
[17:36] <sigma_1234> i thought that came in a few alphas back. because i remember seeing a screenshot of it
[17:37] <nuxil> icheyne,
[17:37] <sigma_1234> icheyne: whats the problem with your sound?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> icheyne, choose the hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply. Also if you want to set the custom sampling rate, and quality
[17:38] <nuxil> open kmix and tell me what row. pcm is on. from left to right
[17:38] <nuxil> i guess its number 3
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: it was never on the actual CD
[17:39] <nuxil> icheyne, do you understand my question
[17:39] <icheyne> yes I do
[17:39] <icheyne> I'm just checking it out now
[17:39] <icheyne> thanksf or the attention guys
[17:39] <icheyne> :)
[17:39] <sigma_1234> oh well then again i didnt look for it. it just downloads compiz and installs it hey?
[17:40] <nuxil> icheyne,  echo -e '#!/bin/bash\ndcop kmix Mixer0 setVolume 2 100' > "the file"
[17:40] <nuxil> thats if its number 3 from left tio right
[17:40] <icheyne> gotcha
[17:40] <icheyne> thanks guys
[17:40] <icheyne> :)
[17:40] <icheyne> PCM is number 6
[17:40] <nuxil> replace 2 with 5
[17:41] <icheyne> gotcha
[17:41] <icheyne> thanks nuxil
[17:41] <icheyne> :)
[17:41] <nuxil> then try
[17:41] <luis> helo
[17:41] <icheyne> I'm doing that now and I'll restart
[17:41] <nuxil> hey
[17:41] <nuxil> remember to chmod 755 "the file"
[17:41] <icheyne> thanks I did
[17:41] <icheyne> :)
[17:41] <icheyne> laters...
[17:41] <nuxil> cya
[17:42] <BluesKaj> nuxil, using the cli is very effective, but using the GUI is much easier for ppl to remmeber who don't save the commands in a text file for future reference
[17:43] <sigma_1234> very true
[17:44] <nuxil> BluesKaj, true. but the command i gave him was piped to a file. as a script.
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: yup, thats the general idea
[17:45] <nuxil> BluesKaj, but people should also get used to use cli " espesialy in a *nix* envoierment
[17:46] <sigma_1234> i dont get the point. i mean honestly was it brain surgery to install compiz manually. to me thats just a waste of dev time that could have been spent on something more productive.
[17:46] <BluesKaj> I agree nuxil , but mostppl learning curve is obvious when they con't find alsa :)
[17:46] <BluesKaj> er cant
[17:47] <sigma_1234> nuxil: true but if you want people to convert its a good idea not to throw them in the deep end. cli isnt for most people
[17:47] <nuxil> :)
[17:47] <nuxil> most ppl use windows :p
[17:48] <sigma_1234> yes hence if you want them to convert
[17:49] <sigma_1234> you need to do it the gui way
[17:50] <nuxil> yea.. most ppl are gui whores
[17:50] <coreymon77> what are we talking about?
[17:50] <sigma_1234> cli vs gui
[17:51] <coreymon77> i use both
[17:51] <Maxim000> how to log boot?
[17:51] <JoshOvki> i use both
[17:51] <coreymon77> the most gui whorish thing you can do is to use adet
[17:51] <nuxil> Maxim000, run dmesg
[17:51] <coreymon77> adept*
[17:51] <coreymon77> actually
[17:51] <coreymon77> i take that back
[17:52] <BluesKaj> calling ppl whores who like to use a gui isn't called for , nuxil
[17:52] <coreymon77> the MOST gui whorish thing possible is to use knetworkmanager instead of iwconfig
[17:52] <sigma_1234> im a manual package installer myself. i just feel that adept complicates the whole matter
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: eh, people wanted so we did it.
[17:52]  * JoshOvki looks at the floor due to coreymon77 's comment
, I need to log some error during boot
[17:52] <nuxil> Maxim000, look in /var/log
[17:53] <coreymon77> JoshOvki: wow, im impressed, you actually managed to get knetworkmanager to work?
[17:53] <Maxim000> there r one file boot. it's empty
[17:53] <coreymon77> JoshOvki: now thats talent
[17:53] <JoshOvki> but in my defence im often moving around, and when i can click a wifi network and connect i will
[17:54] <Maxim000> Just /var/log/boot with one string "(Nothing has been logged yet.)"
[17:54] <sigma_1234> well knetworkmanager works with wired networks. its wireless that its hopeless at
[17:54] <Strangelet> Where are the configuration files for applications typcally found?
[17:54] <artur__> How to make a serial mouse works in the kubuntu. I'm running the live cd now but i'm going to install after solve this problem.
, in /home/user/.appname
[17:54] <JoshOvki> ive never had a problem with knetworkmanager  i just keep my network/interfaces  file empty
[17:55] <Strangelet> ahh!
[17:55] <Strangelet> Maxim000, well, I am searching for the config of skim, I can only find scim. What should I do?
[17:55] <sigma_1234> artur_: can you not just use a usb one?
[17:56] <feistel> hi
[17:56] <sigma_1234> keep the file empty hey. i should try that
[17:56] <BluesKaj> !hi | feistel
[17:56] <feistel> I have problems with Flash in Konqueror/Firefox on Kubuntu Dapper Drake
[17:56] <ubotu> feistel: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[17:56] <nuxil> Maxim000, try look in /var/log/kern.log
[17:56] <coreymon77> JoshOvki: meh, im a firm follower of iwconfig
[17:56] <feistel> I have my Kubuntu box up to date
[17:57] <artur__> sigma_1234: it's an old pc. i tried to run (live cd mode) the xubuntu, ubuntu and so on, and the serial mouse didn't work.
[17:57] <Maxim000> this is fschk errors...
[17:57] <Strangelet> feistel: There is a conflict between flash and qt or something of the sort
[17:57] <Strangelet> feistel: what I did was downgrade my flash
[17:57] <Strangelet> feistel: no noticeable effects at the moment. ;)
[17:57] <feistel> Strangelet, yes, how I can downgrade ?
[17:57] <Maxim000> i need bootlog
[17:57] <Strangelet> feistel: I will provide you with a link, please wait. :)
[17:57] <JoshOvki> coreymon77: im a firm beliver in clicking stuff. apart from updates and installing packages. i always do them in command line for some reason
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Strangelet, on dapper drake ?
[17:58] <Strangelet> BluesKaj: Excuse me?
[17:58] <Strangelet> feistel: http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14266&sliceId=1
[17:58] <acee1234>  what is the proper driver setup for an ati x1400 with compiz ive reformatted 3 times this month by suggestion of /ubuntu and /compiz-fusion fglrx messes up video playback and freezes the computer at logoff
[17:58] <Strangelet> feistel: Download Flash Player 9
[17:58] <sigma_1234> artur_: well if you won't lose any data just install xubuntu and see if the mouse works
[17:58] <daphex> just a question, it's possible to desactive PowerMizer on nv8600GT @ 8.04 ?
[17:59] <BluesKaj> Strangelet, feistel is on dapper
[17:59] <Strangelet> BluesKaj: Oh! i THINK it should be fine
[17:59] <nuxil> Maxim000, if its halts on boot up and its a fsck error on / it wount write a log as it has no disk to write to.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> ok, let's hope so
[18:00] <Strangelet> feistel: Unfortunately, I must go soon, if you need help installing, just ask anyone here
[18:00] <nuxil> Maxim000, run fsck manualy
[18:00] <Maxim000> errors on vfat partitions
[18:00] <nuxil> dude. linux wount repair a vfat disk
[18:00] <Maxim000> I just want 2 log my boot... :'(
[18:00] <eviljames> I must be going crazy here, but I can't open port 6000 under kubuntu?  /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc no longer has the -nolisten tcp option, xhost + (no access control) was set.. Anybody remember which step I missed?
[18:00] <feistel> Strangelet, ok thanks!
[18:01] <Maxim000> nuxil, I know
[18:03] <nuxil> Maxim000, no info in any of this files? /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/kern.log
[18:03] <Maxim000> no
[18:03] <nuxil> strange
[18:04] <BluesKaj> feistel, in the terminal : cd  ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[18:06] <nuxil> Maxim000, comment out the disk in /etc/fstab and mount it manualy on next boot up
[18:06] <nuxil> then cp the error or pipe mount output to a file
[18:07] <Maxim000> fsck runs when mount?
[18:07] <Maxim000> manually
[18:07] <BluesKaj> feistel, better still, check out this site : http://www.debianadmin.com/install-flash-player-9-update-in-ubuntu.html
[18:07] <Maxim000> So, I can't log my boot? 4 future
[18:10] <nuxil> run fsck.vfat on it. fsck is for linux filesystem unless you spesify the filesystem by -t vfat
[18:17] <Maxim000> hm... There are no bootlogd in /bin, /sbin. lol
[18:17] <nuxil> ?
[18:19] <nuxil> its /etc/init.d/bootlogd and its a script
[18:19] <Maxim000>  /etc/init.d/bootlogd script has strings PATH=/sbin:/bin DAEMON=/sbin/bootlogd
[18:21] <brewmaster> what dev packages do i have to install to have glib/gprintf.h, gdk/gdkx.h, gtk/gtk.h, dbus/dbus-glib.h, respectively?
[18:21] <brewmaster> I'm trying to compile kmplayer 0.10
[18:21] <brewmaster> ./configure gives no errors, yet I get errors for all those files, sigh
[18:23] <eviljames> I must be going crazy here, but I can't open port 6000 under kubuntu?  /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc no longer has the -nolisten tcp option, xhost + (no access control) was set..  And it's missing on my system
[18:32] <daphex> just a question, it's possible to desactive PowerMizer on nv8600GT @ 8.04 ?
[18:33] <daphex> desactivate oups sorry
[18:33] <nuxil> Maxim000, non have it. unless they compiled it from source or are using some pak from other distro
[18:34] <JoshOvki> 2 mins till hardy is downloaded:D
[18:34] <Maxim000> The program 'bootlogd' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[18:34] <Maxim000> sudo apt-get install sysvinit
[18:34] <JoshOvki> ...
[18:34] <JoshOvki> Maxim000 doesnt that tell you all you need?
[18:34] <JoshOvki> or am i missing something
[18:36] <nosrednaekim> I don't think you want sysvinit
[18:36] <nosrednaekim> that can screw up a TON of stuff
[18:37] <Maxim000> yes
[18:41] <JoshOvki> having konverstaion open while upgrading from gutsy to hardy shouldnt mess anything up should it?
[18:42] <Maxim000> :)
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> JoshOvki: noope
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> JoshOvki: maybe it'll enable to get out the last dying message from a sick computer ;)
[18:46] <JoshOvki> good :)
[18:46] <JoshOvki> lol, wouldnt surprise me
[18:51] <swatto> whats the shortcut key to bring up terminal please?
[18:53] <nuxil> alt tab ? or alt F2 and type konsole
[18:56] <MaskOfSanity> hiho
[18:57] <MaskOfSanity> whats a good tool to make a image file from a graces cd
[18:58] <nuxil> whats a graces cd ?
[18:58] <MaskOfSanity> grazed cd
[18:58] <MaskOfSanity> or clawed
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> uhh whats that?
[18:58] <MaskOfSanity> zerkratzt?
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> you mean scratched?
[18:58] <nuxil> ?
[18:59] <nuxil> k3b ?
[18:59] <nuxil> !k3b
[18:59] <MaskOfSanity> OK
[18:59] <MaskOfSanity> i will try
[19:00] <nuxil> err,, no sorry,, k3b is a burning prog..
[19:00] <nuxil> i misunderstood
[19:00] <nuxil> by image file you mean iso ?
[19:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> um
[19:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> k3b should do an iso
[19:01] <MaskOfSanity> yeah i mean an iso
[19:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> k3b will do it :)
[19:01] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[19:01] <nuxil> Daisuke_Ido, yea it should be able to do that
[19:01] <voyager_> hi  i need a program similar to gimp please
[19:02] <nuxil> whats wrong with gimp
[19:02] <voyager_> i cant install
[19:02] <nuxil> why not
[19:02] <JoshOvki> i was about to say what about gimp? :P
[19:02] <voyager_> i dont know    (the archiv has broken)
[19:03] <MaskOfSanity> whats the error code 16 in k3b
[19:03] <JoshOvki> is there a hardy kubuntu channel or is it stick around here?
[19:04] <BluesKaj> you can still make an image file with k3b by using the copy cd option and choosing "only create image" , then on the image tab choose the folder that you want to write the file to.
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> JoshOvki: #ubuntu+1
[19:04] <jhutchins> !hardy | JoshOvki
[19:04] <ubotu> JoshOvki: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:04] <voyager_> one name of  the program similar to gimp please
[19:04] <voyager_> quickly
[19:05] <JoshOvki> nosrednaekim jhutchins :  thats for ubuntu tho, not kubuntu
[19:05] <Maxim000__> photoshop? :))
[19:05] <voyager_> to linux??
[19:05] <voyager_> jejeç
[19:05] <Maxim000__> wine?
[19:05] <nuxil> JoshOvki, they both uses the same base system
[19:05] <JoshOvki> alright
[19:05] <GaryR> how burn I the CD right? (I burn it in Nero as Data-CD and don't unpackes the iso file and I can't ship the cd, because I need the alternate cd)
[19:05] <voyager_> only for linux please i dont know other programs
[19:06] <nuxil> !k3b
[19:06] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[19:06] <amews_aj> Hi, is it correct that kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE ?
[19:06] <amews_aj> or are there other differences?
, there no
[19:06] <Maxim000__> picasa, maybe
[19:06] <voyager_> ok thanks
[19:08] <voyager_> thanks Maxim000__
[19:08] <GaryR> mmm I don't need a burning program for kubuntu. I need advice to burn the cd, to install kubuntu^^'
[19:09] <Gary> win 7
[19:10] <zimon> GaryR: nero has a option for burning an iso to disc
[19:12] <amews_aj> Hi, is it correct that kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE ??
[19:12] <GaryR> @zimon: I try this already, but the CD don't boot at startup.... (the live cd runs, but freezed by press on starting and install)
[19:13] <zimon> GaryR: have you checked the iso?
[19:14] <nuxil> amews_aj, yes
[19:14] <amews_aj> nuxil: Are they both stable, and can you install the same on it ?
[19:14] <nuxil> yes
[19:14] <amews_aj> k
[19:14] <GaryR> no, how big should the file size be? By me it is 697mb
[19:15] <nuxil> amews_aj,  you can even have gnome and kde on same system
[19:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> Garythat's about right, but...
[19:15] <amews_aj> nuxil: I read that some had trouble installing kde on ubuntu
[19:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> !md5 | GaryR
[19:15] <ubotu> GaryR: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[19:15] <GaryR> thx
[19:15] <nuxil> amews_aj, there should not be any problems
[19:15] <amews_aj> nuxil: k
[19:16] <nuxil> but
[19:16] <nuxil> if you want kde you dl kubuntu not ubuntu
[19:16] <nuxil> saves you for a download after install.
[19:16] <amews_aj> Btw, does beryl works in the latest version of vmware for win ?
[19:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> nuxil: it works both ways, especially if you might want gnome at some point
[19:17] <brewmaster> anyone know how to view videos from nba.com with konqueror?
[19:17] <eviljames> amews_aj: I didn't think beryl/compiz worked at all under vmware
[19:17] <nuxil> Daisuke_Ido, i know that
[19:17] <brewmaster> I can watch them fine with FF (either totem-mozilla or with media player connectivity plugin)
[19:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> nuxil: sorry, that should have been pointed at amews_aj :)
[19:17] <nuxil> :)
[19:18] <amews_aj> eviljames: But isn't there experimental 3d acc. in the latest vmware?
[19:18] <eviljames> amews_aj: Sounds like I need to update my vmware..
[19:19] <amews_aj> eviljames: I think it is only for the mac edition :(
[19:19] <eviljames> I did see a video of linux under vmware on macos I think with 3d acceleration
[19:19] <amews_aj> vmware fusion
[19:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm waiting for virtualbox to get 3d working...  with hardware virtualization, there shouldn't be any reason it wouldn't work
[19:21] <eviljames> hrmm.. Why won't X listen on port 6000?
[19:25] <RytmenPinnen> Hi, I for some reason cannot play back DVD's even tho I've got all the restricted extras
[19:25] <RytmenPinnen> on kubuntu 7.10
[19:27] <neothecat> i just installed the latest kde4 on kubuntu.  has anyone had problems with:  changing wallpapers, getting blank screen and with trying to change tab names in konsole?
[19:33] <RytmenPinnen> nm
[19:33] <BluesKaj> RytmenPinnen, install libdvdcss2
[19:34] <RytmenPinnen> yes, I got it :P I thought I allready had it installed but no no.. :)
[19:34] <jhutchins> JoshOvki: #ubuntu+1 is for both.
[19:34] <jhutchins> JoshOvki: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde desktop instead of gnome; the main project is ubuntu.
[19:35] <Y-Town> What do most of you prefer thunderbird or evolution?
[19:35] <jhutchins> Y-Town: Yech.
[19:35] <jhutchins> Y-Town: kmail
[19:35] <Y-Town> jhutchinsI missed one  :o)
[19:35] <jhutchins> Y-Town: evolution is a mess.
[19:36] <jhutchins> I'd run pine in console before I loaded that bloat.
[19:36] <Y-Town> jhutchins whats a mess about it? does it crash alot or something?
[19:36] <jhutchins> Y-Town: Do you have it installed?
[19:36] <Y-Town> jhutchinsyea... but I havent reaaly used email much yet
[19:38] <jhutchins> Y-Town: Ok, do a clean boot without starting it.  Look at the processes running.  Then start it, and look at all the new garbage.  Then quit it - still lots of garbage.  Log out - garbage still there!
[19:38] <Y-Town> jhutchins: I have it installed nut have not played with any emial much on linux... It does work to send/receive but thats really all I know
[19:39] <Y-Town> jhutchins: Ahhhhh
[19:39] <jhutchins> Y-Town: Really, what matters to you is how well it meets your needs, but I like kmail better.
[19:39] <jhutchins> Y-Town: I'm generally more of a kde than gnome person.
[19:40] <Y-Town> jhutchins: I have not even looked at kmail to be honest in a long time.
[19:44] <warren_> hi
[19:44] <Y-Town> jhutchins:  Thanks for the input..  I am looking into it now
[19:44] <warren_> gdebi-kde can't install any deb, someone has the same problem?
[19:44] <jussi01> warren_: does it give you an error?
[19:44] <warren_> it shuts down quietly
[19:44] <jussi01> warren_: are you familiar with the command line at all?
[19:45] <warren_> yeah
[19:45] <warren_> but i don't like to install debs in commandline :)
[19:45] <jussi01> warren_: could you try installing a deb with: sudo dpkg -i debname
[19:45] <warren_> i did it like that
[19:45] <jussi01> warren_: I want to see the output and an error if it thorows one
[19:46] <warren_> it's strange
[19:46] <jhutchins> !info sonatat
[19:46] <jhutchins> !info sonata
[19:46] <jussi01> warren_: and it installed?
[19:46] <warren_> because when you launch it by double licking on a deb when installing it shuts down
[19:46] <jussi01> jhutchins: bot is laggy/dead
[19:46] <warren_> when you launch the installation with gdebi-kde in commandline you can seee the install windows but it doesnt do anything
[19:46] <warren_> OSError: [Errno 12] Ne peut allouer de la mémoire
[19:46] <warren_> it is in french
[19:47] <jussi01> what does that mean in english?
[19:47] <warren_> Cannot allocate memory
[19:47] <engin> slm
[19:47] <jussi01> hrm, have you tried purging and reinstalling gdebi-kde?
[19:47] <warren_> yeah
[19:47] <jussi01> engin: ??
[19:48] <engin> araniza yeni katildim. yeniyim.. simdilik bir sorum olacak. en iyi msn programi. linux icin.
[19:48] <jussi01> warren_: Im not sure how to fix that one, save a reinstall, I dont just recomend tthem at a drop of a hat. Please file a bug about it.
[19:48] <warren_> So when launching gdebi-kde graphically it shuts down, when launching it in commandline not, it doesn't install (0%) with this error
[19:49] <jussi01> engin: what language is that?
[19:49] <warren_> there is already a report
[19:49] <jussi01> !bug > warren_
[19:49] <warren_> but nobody cares
[19:49] <engin> turkish
[19:49] <jussi01> !tr
[19:49] <engin> yes
[19:49] <jussi01> gah, bot dead
[19:49] <warren_> ^^
[19:49] <jussi01> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde
[19:49] <engin> cok cok tsk ler
[19:50] <jussi01> warren_: whats the bug number?
[19:50] <warren_> euh
[19:50] <warren_> w8 :)
[19:51] <warren_> my internet is slow :p
[19:54] <ubotu> Package sonatat does not exist in gutsy
[19:54] <ubotu> sonata (source: sonata): GTK+ client for the Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-1 (gutsy), package size 217 kB, installed size 844 kB
[19:54] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[19:55] <warren_> well there's not really a bug like my issue
[19:55] <warren_> ow yes here:
[19:56] <warren_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/156031
[19:56] <life> Hey guys
[19:56] <jussi01> hi
[19:57] <life> I got a quick problem for you guys... kubuntu boots normally but when I try to use knetworkmanager to select a point to connect to (and enter hex wep), it freezes the entire system
[19:57] <life> freezes near 28% or so at "configuring device"
[19:57] <JoshOvki> life: are you using ndiswrapper?
[19:58] <life> JoshOvki: yep.
[19:58] <life> JoshOvki: the device is recognized alright but just freezes when associating I guess
[19:59] <JoshOvki> life: i had a simular problem a while ago with it. I belive it turned out to be that the MAC address was set to 00:00:00:00  i found a patched madwifi what my wifi
[19:59] <ZeH> on a ubuntu forum they say i should use "sudo ndiswrapper ....." but that doesnt exist in kubuntu whats the right one ?
[20:00] <life> JoshOvki: Hmmm, what's strange is it was working fine just the other day.
[20:00] <JoshOvki> life: that is odd then. i know very little about ndiswrapper, i got away from it as soon as i could. i had major problems with my Athros card
[20:01] <life> JoshOvki: Hmmm, does this madwifi work well?
[20:01] <JoshOvki> life: yes extremaly well, depending if your card is supported
[20:01] <kimmo_77> hey
[20:02] <jussi01> hei kimmo_77
[20:02] <JoshOvki> life: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[20:02] <life> JoshOvki: Ah. I think I have an Atheros chipset
[20:02] <kimmo_77> no moro...mistäs löytyy kanava jossa voi fiksummat jeesaa?
[20:02] <jussi01> !en  | kimmo_77
[20:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en   - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:03] <JoshOvki> life: What chipset?
[20:03] <jussi01> kimmo_77: english only in here
[20:03] <JoshOvki> (as in version)
[20:03] <kimmo_77> sorry
[20:03] <jussi01> kimmo_77: #kubuntu-fi if youd like finnish :)
[20:03] <life> JoshOvki: Not too sure. Is there some way to check?
[20:03] <kimmo_77> So is there any channel where I could get help for Linux related problems?
[20:03] <kimmo_77> Ok, thanks Jussi
[20:04] <jussi01> kimmo_77: here, or -fi depending on lnaguage :)
[20:04] <JoshOvki> life: Ummmm probly, im not sure how thoough
[20:04] <jussi01> lspci should give you the revision
[20:04] <life> Oooh, madwifi doesn't support USB cards, which is what I have :
[20:04] <life> :/
[20:04] <JoshOvki> darn
[20:05] <jussi01> oh :(
[20:05] <kimmo_77> nice. Quick question, anyone can answer. How I can get Compiz-Fusion to works on HP nx6126 laptop?
[20:05] <administrateur> #ubuntu-fr
[20:06] <jussi01> kimmo_77: which graphics card ?
[20:06] <jussi01> kimmo_77: you may also want to check out #compiz-fusion its more specialized for that :)
[20:06] <kimmo_77> ATI radeon 200M
[20:07] <jussi01> kimmo_77: yeah, go ask in #compiz-fusion ;)
[20:07] <kimmo_77> Ok, dam this is quite hard. I thinking and I will chance from win to Linux, but that should be up and running till monday when I get back to work :)
[20:07] <kimmo_77> thanks I try there
[20:11] <babeck> Does anyone know how to restart plasma?  I've noticed that with 4.0.2 when I change wallpaper my deskop becomes white.
[20:11] <JoshOvki> run   sudo kill plasma && plasma
[20:12] <JoshOvki> bebeck, there is a bit about it
[20:12] <selckin> pkill maybe, but not kill
[20:12] <JoshOvki> babeck: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198937
[20:13] <JoshOvki> sorry    killall plasma && plasma
[20:14] <majnoon> is there a chan for kde4 ??
[20:15] <JoshOvki> #kubuntu-kde4
[20:15] <babeck> thanks, this seems to work: pkill plasma && plasma
[20:17] <Regital> hey... could i get some help
[20:17] <Regital> i need to set up a wireless internet on my kubuntu gutsy
[20:17] <Regital> my wireless card is RaLink RT2500
[20:25] <Regital> anyone?
[20:26] <jussi01> Regital: those ralinks are a pain in the rear, but they do work most of the time.
[20:26] <jussi01> !wireless
[20:27] <Regital> yeah?
[20:27] <Regital> no osaakko auttaa asiassa?
[20:28] <jussi01> english, please Regital :)
[20:28] <JoTrocken> hi, I can´t change system language anymore - after installing iceweasel from debian sources the original "german" was deleted. There is still a drop-down menu with the right entry, but I neighter can select "German" nor delete "English (US)"
[20:28] <jussi01> if you want to chat in finnish, please use #kubuntu-fi
[20:29] <jussi01> JoTrocken: you may get more help in #kubuntu-de for that issue
[20:30] <JoTrocken> already tried, but anybody knows about it
[20:34] <Regital> jussi01
[20:34] <Regital> ok so we can talk here then
[20:35] <jussi01> yes..
[20:35] <Regital> ok
[20:35] <Regital> yeah... so i told you my problem, can you help?
[20:36] <jussi01> Regital: have a look here: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:36] <jussi01> I need to take the dog out
[20:37] <Regital> ok
[20:38] <administrateur> #ubuntu-de
[20:41] <davidm_> Howto update 6.06 to 7.10 via cli
[20:42] <davidm_> !upgrade
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade
[20:44] <jussi01> ding dong the bot is ultra lagged...
[20:45] <Arwen> argh, WINE compilation is EPIC SLOWNESS.
[20:45] <Arwen> I just wish "make" came with a progress bar..
[20:47] <SSJ_GZ> Arwen: Ask the wine devs to switch to CMake ;)
[20:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:48] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:49] <coreymon77> oh
[20:49] <coreymon77> whos having the wifi issues?
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> Regital:
[20:50] <Regital> yes
[20:50] <ZeH> puh
[20:50] <Regital> coreymon77: why? can you help
[20:51] <Regital> cause i'm tired of going through all those websites
[20:51] <coreymon77> im usually good at wifi
[20:51] <coreymon77> Regital: ill do my best
[20:51] <Regital> ok
[20:51] <coreymon77> Regital: whats the mater
[20:52] <Regital> i have kubuntu gutsy, and my wifi card is ralink RT2500
[20:52] <coreymon77> hey!
[20:52] <Regital> i don't know how to get it to work
[20:52] <coreymon77> i used to have that card
[20:52] <coreymon77> very easy
[20:52] <Regital> really?
[20:52] <coreymon77> yup
[20:52] <coreymon77> single command should do it
[20:53] <coreymon77> Regital: is your network encrypted
[20:53] <Regital> indeed it is
[20:53] <coreymon77> Regital: wep?
[20:53] <Regital> umm... i'm pretty sure yeah
[20:53] <coreymon77> Regital: is it a jumble of letters and numbers or is it a passphrase
[20:53] <Regital> passphrase
[20:54] <coreymon77> Regital: as in a word?
[20:54] <Regital> yeah
[20:54] <Regital> well... name and 2 numbers
[20:54] <coreymon77> Regital: i think that is wpa, if im not mistaken
[20:54] <Regital> ok
[20:54] <jussi01> !overshare
[20:54] <ubotu> Um thanks... We *really* did not need to know that...
[20:54] <coreymon77> jussi01: am i right?
[20:54] <jussi01> coreymon77: no. you can have wep passphrase
[20:55] <coreymon77> oh
[20:55] <coreymon77> so lets try wep first
[20:55] <life> Is there some way to start kwallet manually?
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> life: kwalletmanager is what tab gives me
[20:55] <Regital> wep it is then
[20:55] <ZeH> going from windows to linux wasnt the easiest thing :P
[20:55] <life> nosrednaekim: Ah, so run kwalletmanager?
[20:55] <coreymon77> Regital: type iwconfig into console and pastebin the results for me okay?
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> yp
[20:55] <life> nosrednaekim, thanks!
[20:56] <Regital> well im on my laptop right now and my linux is on my desktop
[20:56] <coreymon77> Regital: do you have access to the desktop?
[20:56] <coreymon77> Regital: does it have internet at all?
[20:56] <Regital> no
[20:56] <Regital> the desktop doesn't have internet
[20:57] <Regital> i prolly should've told that earlier
[20:57] <coreymon77> Regital: okay, well, type iwconfig into console and tell me if ra0, ra1 etc is listed
[20:57] <Regital> no ra's at all
[20:57] <coreymon77> okay, lets assume that its ra0 then
[20:58] <Regital> ok
[20:59] <Regital> what's next?
[20:59] <coreymon77> Regital: okay, type this into console on the desktop
[20:59] <jmichaelx> ok, i have often used kaffeine to play movies, and i often watch movies that are subtitled. in the past kaffeine has asked me to select which subtitles to use, and all went well. now it askes me to select, and then tells me it can't find the subtitles. any suggestions?
[20:59] <coreymon77> Regital: sudo iwconfig ra0 essid [youressid] key [wepkey]
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: maybe there aren't any?
[21:00] <jmichaelx> this was in KDE 3.5.8, so i upgraded to 3.5.9, but the problem remains.
[21:00] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : i think i just mentioned that they had always played fine. they are there.
[21:00] <jmichaelx> if they weren't there, it would not give me the list to selct from to begin with
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: but are you sure this particular movie has subtitles?
[21:00] <jmichaelx> select*
[21:01] <Regital> coreymon77: it says SET failed on device ra0 ; No such device
[21:01] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : yes, it has subtitles. they are there in plain site. i can open them in kate.
[21:01] <coreymon77> hmm
[21:01] <coreymon77> Regital: try this, lscpi
[21:01] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : like i said, it worked fine the last time i watched it
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: weird... what happens when you right lick on the movie while its playing at open subtitles that way?
[21:01] <coreymon77> Regital: tell me if your ralink card appears anywhere
[21:02] <Regital> it does
[21:02] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : it does not let me do that
[21:02] <coreymon77> okay
[21:02] <coreymon77> lets figure something out, open up system prefs
[21:02] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : by the way, the movie plays fine with the subtitles in mplayer, but not in kaffeine
[21:03] <coreymon77> Regital: and click on network settings
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: oh! hrm
[21:03] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : my guess that this is just one more kubuntu gutsy bug that has cropped up
[21:03] <jmichaelx> hrm?
[21:03] <Regital> coreymon: where is that?
[21:03] <coreymon77> Regital: where is what
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: I would suppose so ^_^
[21:04] <jmichaelx> for me gutsy has just been a struggle with one bug after another
[21:04] <khussein> Is there a way to enable internal mic in Dell D830?
[21:04] <jmichaelx> i have been a big k/ubuntu fan, but i finally switched my desktop to fedora 8, but not this laptop
[21:04] <coreymon77> Regital: system prefs or network settings
[21:04] <jmichaelx> sigh
[21:04] <Regital> coreymon77: heh.... system pref
[21:04] <Regital> i hate being a noob
[21:05] <coreymon77> Regital: kmenu, system pregerences
[21:05] <coreymon77> Regital: preferences*
[21:05] <coreymon77> Regital: i mean, system settings
[21:05] <Regital> ok
[21:05] <Regital> coreymon77: ok im in network settings
[21:06] <jmichaelx> by the way, what is the deal with the new kaffeine in the repos,  without a corresponding upgrade for kaffeine-xine?
[21:06] <coreymon77> Regital: is there a card listed there
[21:06] <Regital> yeah
[21:06] <Regital> 2
[21:06] <coreymon77> Regital: what are they
[21:06] <jmichaelx> is this a medibuntu issue, or a canonical issue?
[21:06] <Regital> eth0 and wlan0
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: is that the cause?
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: no idea,though I did hear of it
[21:06] <coreymon77> Regital: oh, its wlan0 now
[21:07] <coreymon77> thats odd
[21:07] <coreymon77> Regital: okay then
[21:07] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : no, it isn't. i didn't upgrade to the new kaffeine
[21:07] <coreymon77> Regital: try this one
[21:07] <jmichaelx> i have no idea why the newer kaffeine is even there. it's ridiculous.
[21:07] <coreymon77> Regital: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid [youressid] key [wepkey]
[21:09] <Regital> coreymon77: it says Error for wireless request "Set Encode"
[21:09] <jmichaelx> lol, i just upgraded to KDE 3.5.9 to see if it would fix this kaffeine problem, and now my bash history has been wiped
[21:09] <jmichaelx> good grief
[21:09] <Regital> Invalid argument "password"
[21:09] <Regital> webkey w/e
[21:10] <coreymon77> Regital: oy
[21:10] <coreymon77> Regital: tou do know, that you have to replace [youressid] with your network name and [wepkey] with your wireless password
[21:10] <jmichaelx> Regital: make sure you put quotation marks around your essid in that command coreymon77gave you
[21:10] <coreymon77> without the []'s
[21:10] <Regital> yeah
[21:10] <Regital> i know
[21:11] <coreymon77> Regital: you know what, screw this, lets do it graphically
[21:11] <Regital> lol ok
[21:11] <coreymon77> Regital: go back to network settings
[21:11] <Regital> ok
[21:12] <coreymon77> Regital: look at the bottom of the window, do you see an administrator mode button, click on that button and then enter your password
[21:12] <Regital> done
[21:13] <coreymon77> Regital: click on wlan0 and press configure
[21:13] <Regital> done
[21:13] <coreymon77> Regital: first things first, do you want to use dhcp or do you want a static ip
[21:14] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i am not trying to bud in, but did you guys compile the serialmonkey ralink drivers and blacklist the ubuntu drivers?
[21:14] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: this is a gutsy system, should that already be done
[21:14] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: shouldnt*
[21:15] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: that was for feisty
[21:15] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: as far as i know the gutsy ralink drivers workk very poorly for most people
[21:15] <jmichaelx> no, feisty worled fine. look at the forums.
[21:15] <jmichaelx> worked*
[21:15] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: im gonna give this a shot, then ill do that
[21:15] <jmichaelx> i had no issues with rt2500 infeisty on 2 different machines. the gutsy ralink drivers have been useless for me.
[21:16] <coreymon77> Regital: so, do you want automatic dhcp or a static ip?
[21:16] <Regital> ok... =p either dhcp or static goes for me, unless there's major down sides on either one
[21:16] <coreymon77> Regital: aka, do you plan on forwarding any ports?
[21:16] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: ok, i will leave you alone then. if nothing else works, i would defintely suggest the serialmonekey drivers. he'll be far happier.
[21:16] <Regital> lol forwarding any ports?
[21:17] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: as i said, thanks for the suggestion, let me just try this, then ill give your thing a shot
[21:17] <jmichaelx> np, wish you both luck
[21:17] <coreymon77> Regital: you have no clue what im talking about right?
[21:17] <Regital> about forwarding ports?
[21:17] <Regital> no
[21:17] <Regital> so i don't think i will then eh?
[21:17] <coreymon77> Regital: okay then, lets stick with dhcp
[21:17] <Regital> ok
[21:17] <coreymon77> Regital: so, in the configure window, choose automatic
[21:18] <Regital> ok
[21:18] <eviljames> So I have set xorg to start without the -nolisten tcp option, and ran xhost + for no access control, but X does not listen on port 6000... what gives?
[21:18] <Nakkel> coreymon77: Regital is a bit computer illiterate at the moment. Moving from Windows and like. Also I once allready talked him through how to config his card manually, didnt help then.
[21:18] <coreymon77> Nakkel: thanks for the tip
[21:18] <coreymon77> Regital: am i going too quickly for you
[21:18] <Regital> oh no
[21:19] <coreymon77> Regital: okay, click the box that says activate when the computer starts so that there is a x in it
[21:19] <Regital> o
[21:19] <Regital> k
[21:20] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: i am assuming, since his key is a passphrase, that if it is wep, it is ascii right?
[21:20] <coreymon77> Nakkel: you can answer that too
[21:20] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i think so.
[21:20] <coreymon77> okay then
[21:21] <coreymon77> Regital: so, in the lower section of the configure window, next to essid, type your network name and next to wep key, type your passphrase
[21:21] <Regital> done
[21:21] <jmichaelx> Nakkel: i have had a miserable time in gutsy with anything wireless. the only way i have been able to use rt2500 based cards has been to compile the serialmonkey drivers, and then either use the commandline or RutilT to connect.
[21:21] <khussein> Can someone help me enable USB in VirtualBox?
[21:22] <jmichaelx> using rt2500, you need to remove network manager.
[21:22] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: thats why when my rt2500 died, i made sure i got a new card that works well, i have an atheros card now, it works pergectly
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> khussein: you need the non-opensource version you know.
[21:22] <Regital> coreymon77: so i leave it as ASCII?
[21:22] <coreymon77> Regital: choose ascii as the key type
[21:23] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: yeah, atheros usually works in most distros, if it is the right atheros. the other option is intel.
[21:23] <khussein> nosrednaekim: Isn't this the version that I can get through aptitude?
[21:23] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: this is the perfect atheros, its also a better card
[21:23] <Regital> done
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> khussein: not unless you added the virtualbox repository
[21:23] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: the card is the Airlink101 AWLH4030 wireless g card, its the best card ive ever had
[21:23] <coreymon77> Regital: now click okay
[21:23] <jmichaelx> gutsy was a dramatic step backwards in regards to wireless, not to mentionseveral other ways
[21:23] <Regital> done
[21:24] <khussein> Ahuh .. is this the only way?
[21:24] <khussein> I mean to enable the USB?
[21:24] <coreymon77> Regital: now, go to routes
[21:24] <jmichaelx> corey, i have 2 atheros PCMCIA cards, and they are nice. unfortunately, my laptop has no PCMCIA port
[21:25] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: this is a pci card
[21:25] <Regital> coreymon77: where would that be? =p
[21:25] <coreymon77> Regital: up at the top of the window, there is a tap that says routes on it
[21:25] <Regital> the routes
[21:25] <Regital> oh
[21:25] <coreymon77> Regital: are you still in network settings?
[21:25] <Regital> yeah
[21:26] <coreymon77> Regital: are you on the routes tab
[21:26] <Regital> coreymon77 indeed
[21:26] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: is Regital's card PCI or mini-PCI... or something else?
[21:26] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: the rt2500 is a pci card
[21:27] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: he is on a desktop
[21:27] <coreymon77> Regital: now, on the right side, there is a pulldown menu next to device, click on that and choose wlan0
[21:27] <Regital> done
[21:28] <jmichaelx> he may have luck then. i have an ancient AMD K6-2 desktop with an rt2500 PCI card that is working fine. the rt2500based mini-PCI would never work well in gutsy in my laptop.
[21:28] <coreymon77> Regital: in ip address, put the ip address of your router
[21:28] <coreymon77> Regital: im assuming you know what that is (its usually <IP_ADDRESS>)
[21:28] <Regital> how do i find the ip address
[21:28] <Regital> ok
[21:28] <coreymon77> try this
[21:28] <coreymon77> is your laptop connected to the same router
[21:29] <Regital> wirelessly yes
[21:29] <coreymon77> Regital: what os is your laptop running?
[21:29] <Regital> windows
[21:30] <coreymon77> okay, click on the wifi icon in the windows taskbar
[21:30] <coreymon77> Regital: it should bring you into the little wifi status window
[21:31] <coreymon77> Regital: right?
[21:31] <Regital> hold on a sec
[21:32] <Nakkel> coreymon77: Just make him punch "ipconfig /all" on Windows CLI. ;)
[21:32] <coreymon77> Regital: it should bring up the wireless connection status window
[21:32] <coreymon77> Nakkel: this works too
[21:32] <coreymon77> Regital: you there?
[21:32] <jmichaelx> i really wish i could get subtitles to work in kaffeine again, lol. this is so ridiculous. i just copied the file with the movie over to my fedora box, and it works fine.
[21:33] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: i assure you, most people dont have as many problem as you do, you just seem to have some bad luck
[21:34] <coreymon77> Regital: so, did you open the window on your windows laptop
[21:35] <coreymon77> seems we've lost him
[21:36] <ZeH> does cedega work with kubuntu amd64 ?
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: he probably hit the wrong thing in there ;)
[21:36] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: you have obviously not taken a peak at the forums.
[21:37] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: try looking at the threads regarding rt2500 in the forums...
[21:37] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: i used to have an rt2500, i have spent hours and hours on that card, so i know what im doing with it
[21:38] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: let me try what i am trying, then ill give your suggestion a shot
[21:38] <gilles> I see the other pc on my network but I don't view the share folders. What can I do ?
[21:39] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i was not questioning that, i was only pointing out that many, many people have had a number of serious issues with gutsy
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> !samba
[21:39] <gilles> yes
[21:39] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: i know, many many people, but not all, i dont want to get any more complicated then i have to for him
[21:39] <jmichaelx> but it is often like that with computers and OS's
[21:40] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: so im trying it the easier way, then, if that doesnt work, we will go through compiling the other driver
[21:41] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: he also doesnt have any internet on his desktop, so downloading and compiling a new driver would prove to be a little difficult
[21:41] <coreymon77> Regital: are you still there?
[21:41] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i understand, with your experience with that chipset, you'll get his going with time.
[21:41] <coreymon77> thanks
[21:42] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[21:42] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: before i got my atheros card, i used to spend hours, sometimes days (back with the broadcom chips) getting wireless working
[21:42] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: :P
[21:42] <jmichaelx> i should have taken my own advice about the forums.. seems a lot of people have the same issues with subtitles right now. the last libxineupdate broke subtitles.
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: hehe :)
[21:43] <fat-head> ive installed kubuntu and when trying to update kubuntu with adept manager it downloads the files but when it installs them it gets to 53% of the files but then it crashes and give an error that some files might be corrupt and have caused a break. this has happened 2 times i had to wash my hard drive after the first time and then reinstalled kubuntu again but now i have the same problem
[21:43] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i have been through the same stuff. i always had luck getting broadcom going, and i thought that feisty was the best for wireless that i had seen.
[21:43] <coreymon77> fat-head: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:44] <jmichaelx> i tried to help alocal guy get bcm43xx working the other day at a coffee shp, but could never get it to work. it was the first time i had tried in gutsy.
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: try running, from the command line "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:45] <fat-head> *** qt_plugins_3.3rc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: doesn't matter... hti enter
[21:45] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: when i had the broadcom chip cards, that was back in the days of ndiswrapper, the days of 5.10 and dapper, and this was a bcmw5050, or something like that
[21:45] <jmichaelx> ok, i have another kaffeine question... i just read where one guy claims that upgrading to  the new kaffeine fixed his subtitle problem... but for me, if i upgrade to the new kaffeine, it removes libxine entireley, and i can play practically nothing
[21:46] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: so let me tell ya, it was a plain in the bloody arse
[21:46] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: lol
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: are you sure you have the latest package lists?
[21:46] <fat-head> does that mean next time i reinstall kubuntu i have to run sudo spkg --configure -a first then use adept ?
[21:46] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : if i am missing something, i have no idea what it could be
[21:46] <coreymon77> Regital: where did you go?
[21:47] <gilles> I see the other pc on my network but I don't view the share folders. What can I do ?
[21:47] <fat-head> what did " sudo dpkg --configure -a " do ?
[21:48] <fat-head> ?
[21:48] <coreymon77> fat-head: fixed it?
[21:48] <fat-head> no
[21:49] <fat-head> i only managed to install 53% of the files adept downloaded then it crashed
[21:49] <fat-head> now that i refreshed adept the other half havent installed
[21:49] <fat-head> and wont install
[21:50] <fat-head> argh!! and i thought switching from ubuntu to kubuntu would be as easy as everyone told me
[21:50] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: run "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:50] <coreymon77> fat-head: dont use adept, this isnt time for graphical methoids
[21:51] <coreymon77> fat-head: something like this usually requires command line actions
[21:51] <fat-head>  when u first installed kubuntu did u update everything with adept right away ?
[21:51] <fat-head> or did u use apt-get
[21:52] <fat-head> is using apt-get safe? arnt i supposed to use the one given " adept manager "
[21:52] <fat-head> ?
[21:52] <coreymon77> fat-head: adept is apt-get
[21:52] <fat-head> lol
[21:52] <fat-head> k
[21:52] <coreymon77> fat-head: adept just slaps a graphical interface on top
[21:53] <fat-head> so adept is synaptic too ?
[21:53] <coreymon77> fat-head: synaptic does the same thing, it just slaps a graphical interface on top of apt-get
[21:53] <fat-head> kk
[21:53] <fat-head> but its strange i didnt get breakage when i used apt-get or synaptic with gnome ubuntu
[21:54] <coreymon77> fat-head: that has nothing to do with it
[21:55] <coreymon77> fat-head: there is obviously a package that has a bug it in
[21:55] <jmichaelx> hmm, apparently there is no fix at this time for the subtitle problem. people are having otherproblems with kaffeine/xine right now, too
[21:55] <fat-head> thats the problem it just closed and showed the error it didnt let me see
[21:55]  * raid kills bugs
[21:55] <coreymon77> fat-head: the fact that you were using synaptic isnt the issue
[21:55] <coreymon77> cuznt: lol
[21:55] <fat-head> k i understand
[21:56] <fat-head> but how do i find out which file caused the breakage so i can uncheck it next time ?
[21:56] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: you wanna handle this one
[21:56] <Vantskruv> I've never liked Kaffeine, it feels quite buggy
[21:56] <Vantskruv> I tip a go for KPlayer which I like very much
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: sure....
[21:57] <root______> què es esto?
[21:57] <coreymon77> !es | root______
[21:57] <ubotu> root______: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:57] <coreymon77> ha! i win!
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: did you run "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> !don'trunansroot
[21:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about don'trunansroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:57] <fat-head> yeh i enabled extra repo's and ran update and upgrade after
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: which extra repos?
[21:58] <fat-head> but the files i downloaded in adept that didnt install it wont recognise them
[21:58] <fat-head> all of them
[21:58] <fat-head> previously i had the default enabled
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> including "unsupported updates:?
[21:58] <fat-head> not previously
[21:58] <fat-head> only now
[21:59] <fat-head> k its finished downloading and installing the unsupported updates lol no problem there but i had a problem with the official updates
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: so everything is ok now?
[22:00] <fat-head> i think im gonna have to wash my hd again and reinstall kubuntu and hope ill be able to install everything with just apt-get and not get any errors
[22:00] <fat-head> nah
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: wait wait.... what ereor is apt-get upgrade giving you?
[22:01] <fat-head> out of the 158 files it said i needed to update before it only managed to install around 70 the rest broke after adept crashing now it wont recognise them
[22:01] <fat-head> not apt-get
[22:01] <fat-head> it was adept which gave me error
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: so apt-get returns no errors?
[22:02] <fat-head> no
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> then everything is fixed.
[22:02] <fat-head> how do i find out what happened with adept
[22:02] <fat-head> ?
[22:03] <fat-head> or if i have broken downloads
[22:03] <dave11> how do you clear the cache in konqueror?
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: you don't want to know....adpet is just plain buggy:) just use apt-get from now on.
[22:03] <fat-head> lol
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> or synaptic
[22:03] <fat-head> kk thnx man u help cool my hot head i was about to smash this comp to bits
[22:06] <und3va> i could use some help regarding the changing of ttl on ubuntu, anyone ?
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> ttl?
[22:07] <und3va> time to live
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> whats that?
[22:09] <dave11> release date?
[22:09] <NickPresta> dave11, for what?
[22:09] <und3va> it is used in the ip header to record the time for a packet on the network
[22:09] <dave11> guess the next ubuntu release
[22:09] <NickPresta> !hardy | dave11
[22:10] <dave11> not me, und asked
[22:10] <und3va> can anyone help me with the ttl?
[22:10] <NickPresta> dave11, ah okay. sorry :)
[22:10] <dave11> lol, np
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> und3va: fraid not.... usually when I don't even know what something is, I don't have a clue how to change/fix it:)
[22:11] <NickPresta> und3va, does ttl have an official support forum or channel? You would probably get better results there
[22:11] <und3va> thanks
[22:26] <khussein> Kubuntu detected my wireless and it was working fine untill I installed VirtualBox. Now the wlan0 isn't detected. Can someone help me fix this problem?
[22:27] <bmk789> could anyone explain why one of my built in NICs which is a marvell yukon wouldnt even show up under lspci?
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: yukons aren't supported wekk at ALL IIRC
[22:29] <inaety> how can i give permission to k3b to open discs when wrtiting cd's.   after i start burning a cd it gives me an error it has no permssion to open the disc
[22:29] <bmk789> the yukon in my laptop worked without any problems
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: might be a differnt revision... in any case, the correct driver is the sky2 drivers, look'em up.
[22:30] <khussein> Kubuntu detected my wireless and it was working fine untill I installed VirtualBox. Now the wlan0 isn't detected. Can someone help me fix this problem?
[22:30] <bmk789> nosrednaekim: ive tried loading the sky2 module at boot, nothing
[22:31] <nosrednaekim> khussein: wlan is probably still around, but the vmware net module is probably blocking it
[22:31] <khussein> nosrednaekim: how can I fix that?
[22:31] <nosrednaekim> khussein: do you need networking for virtulabox?
[22:32] <khussein> Yes
[22:32] <khussein> I installed the not open source one  and the USB works now
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> khussein: ask in #vbox ... they probably know how to fix that
[22:34] <khussein> nosrednaekim: I looked into menu.list (the new one that is added by virtualbox), there are two versions of the kernel. 2.6.24-11-386 and 2.6.24-11-generic. The default now is the 386. When I try the generic the wireless works
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> khussein: that is hardy....
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> !hardy
[22:35] <khussein> Yes, I know
[22:35] <ubotu> dave11: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> dave11? wth?
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> ok... I have to go guys.... good luck
[22:36] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:37] <khussein> nosrednaekim: thanks for helping
[22:38] <icewaterman> anyone using ati's binary driver with tvtime?
[22:38] <icewaterman> i get this error: xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[22:39] <bobwhoops> hi all, I'm running kubuntu on a pretty slow machine, and some things are ridiculously sluggish. Are there any "low hanging fruit" I can disable to make things speed up?
[22:41] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, you can disable transparency, large bubble tooltips
[22:41] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, how slow is the machine?
[22:42] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: the actual ghz is pretty good (2.8), but it's kinda misleading since the cache is practically non-existant and there's a built-in intel graphics
[22:43] <moope1> hullo, ubuntu is taking ages to load on boot. It seems to spend a long time looking for resume images. Any one know how to fix?
[22:43] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, still, it should be fine for the most part. Perhaps it is a RAM problem?
[22:43] <moope1> I mean kubuntu....
[22:43] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: no problems on my previous distro
[22:44] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, hmm. Strange.
[22:44] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: where do I disable transperancy?
[22:46] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, K Menu > System Settings > Window Behavior > Translucency. Similarly, you can try disabling GUI effects (System Settings > Appearance > Style > Effects)
[22:47] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: translucency was disabled by default, and I've already turned off the GUI effects. No change
[22:47] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, are there any applications specifically or does KDE and the whole system feel sluggish?
[22:47] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: it's only for some things though. mostly it runs snappy, but things like adept are ridiculously slow
[22:47] <NickPresta> moope1, perhaps this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422875
[22:49] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, Adept runs snappy for me (less than 3 seconds to start up) see if something like 'sudo apt-get install` takes a long time to run.
[22:50] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: no, running it from the CLI is fine. It's just things like clicking on something in adept can take 10+ seconds
[22:51] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, oh. I have no idea what the problem could be. Sorry. Perhaps ask again later.
[22:53] <katja> does kubuntu @ kubuntu.org have KDE4 per default?
[22:54] <bobwhoops> katja: hardy heron (which is still in alpha) will ship with both 3.4 and 4.0
[22:55] <ZeH> where does programs install for example wine
[22:55] <NickPresta> katja, in Gutsy, no. You have to add a repo. line to get 4.0. In Hardy, you have 4.0 available to you by default (along with 3.5)
[22:55] <katja> okay, but I can install kde4 in gutsy, right?
[22:55] <NickPresta> !kde4 | katja
[22:55] <NickPresta> ZeH, most programs install to /usr/bin
[22:55] <ZeH> oki
[22:56] <catia_> alguem aki pode me ajudar com java? =D
[22:56] <NickPresta> !es | catia_
[22:56] <bobwhoops> ZeH: you could always run the command "which wine" for example
[22:57] <darrenor64> /usr/bin/zinfandel
[22:58] <ZeH> bobwhoops ok
[22:58] <ZeH> first time im using linux but have managed pretty well now :D
[22:59] <bobwhoops> ZeH: why do you want to know where it is anyway? it usually doesn't matter
[22:59] <ZeH> ye but i installed a program and didnt make any shortcuts
[22:59] <ZeH> bit hard to start it then :)
[23:02] <catia> como me registro aki?
 Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:04] <catia> !es | catia
[23:15] <ubuntu_> IM ABOUT TO RM -RF /
[23:19] <foibles> what bit torrent program do you guys use?
[23:20] <catia__> como me registro??
[23:22] <JESUSfreak> hello
[23:29] <ubotu> katja: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:29] <ubotu> catia_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:29] <michael__> hey folks
[23:29] <ibou> is it possible to lose quality on my audio files by making a compressed image of my hard drive ("ghost") ?
[23:30] <michael__> I just built a quad core system, which would be the best version to use? 32 or 64 bit version?
[23:31] <killermach> where are the compiz settings?
[23:32] <tom_>
[23:32] <killermach> found it.. ccsm
[23:34] <killermach> hmm.. I used beryl for months,it seems to have more options/features than compiz
[23:34] <killermach> how do I rotate the compiz cube?
[23:35] <kral> turk yokmu
[23:36] <michael__> never mind
[23:36] <michael__> going for the 32
[23:36] <adz21c> michael__: either is good, I think for none servers 64bit doesnt have much to offer (unless u got more ram than 32bit works with)
[23:36] <kral> ak ubuntuya sattiz bizi d
[23:36] <adz21c> michael__: although i use 64bit and i have no issues. If your in doubt/novice i would say stick with 32
[23:37] <michael__> kubuntu seems to work with AMD chip when dealing with 64 bit
[23:37] <adz21c> it does for intel too
[23:37] <michael__> I chose Intell (first time in 10 - 15 years) for the Quad core
[23:38] <adz21c> yea, i usually stick to amd, but at the time of my pc upgrade i got more for my money with intel :-)
[23:38] <michael__> Intel spanked AMD with the Quad core
[23:38] <JESUSfreak_> hey which one is more efficent amd or intel?
[23:39] <adz21c> depends what u mean by efficient
[23:39] <michael__> you might as well draw a line through the middle of the room and tell the crowd to pick a side
[23:39] <adz21c> not exactly an easy question to answer
[23:39] <michael__> not easily done
[23:39] <JESUSfreak_> if i want to run a vista on my pc which processor should i use
[23:39] <adz21c> either
[23:40] <michael__> neither
[23:40] <michael__> lol
[23:40] <adz21c> lol
[23:40] <JESUSfreak_> do both have the same technology
[23:41] <adz21c> not in every respect
[23:41] <michael__> both have there version of the same tech.
[23:41] <gtt> anyone got a quick tip on a command that'll delete only empty directories?
[23:43] <JESUSfreak_> ok are any of you professional programmers?
[23:43] <JESUSfreak_> i mean like full time
[23:43] <adz21c> JESUSfreak_ making my way there ...
[23:43] <rgreening> I have my BSC in Comp Sci, but don't program professionally :P
[23:43] <adz21c> JESUSfreak_ 3 months and yea
[23:43] <rgreening> Im into networking
[23:44] <adz21c> i am in Soft Eng. :-)
[23:44] <JESUSfreak_> i was wondering can you get a decent job with an associates degree?
[23:45] <adz21c> couldn't say i don't know anyone who has done an associates degree
[23:46] <michael__> I would have had one, but I quit to make more money
[23:46] <michael__> lol
[23:46] <michael__> so I guess its 'to each his won'
[23:46] <michael__> own
[23:46] <adz21c> since it says its apparently called a "foundation degree" in the uk then i lied lol
[23:47] <adz21c> i do know someone and they got an ok job, but i think they were doing the work part time will doing a top up to Bsc
[23:47] <gtt> JESUSfreak -> with 10 years of networking experience and a fresh associate's with honors in CIT I've had trouble finding anything competitive with my current position.
[23:47] <sputnick> salut
[23:47] <Seldaek> I was wondering, if I install kubuntu, then want a dual boot with winxp, is it easy to restore grub or whatever boot loader after windows puts his crap over it ?
[23:47] <gtt> oh, and I'm Network+ and a Zend Certified Engineer.
[23:47] <adz21c> Seldaek: Yes, CD does it
[23:48] <Seldaek> dvd as well I suppose ;)
[23:48] <adz21c> Seldaek: can't remember the ins and outs of it but when i did it a while back it wasn't a chore
[23:48] <adz21c> Seldaek: you'd hope so :-)
[23:48] <wswindell> how do i use the dpkg
[23:48] <sputnick> ya des utilisateurs de pidgin/myspaceim ici ? comment on fait pour creer un compte IM ?
[23:48] <wswindell> in konsole
[23:48] <michael__> speaking of boot loader...
[23:48] <Seldaek> adz21c: thanks, what does the dvd have compared to the cd btw ? just a shitload of packages ?
[23:48] <sputnick> sorry, English channel
[23:48] <adz21c> wswindell: what you trying to acheive?
[23:48] <gtt> (anyone wanna hire a PHP programmer with a strong background in Object-Oriented Design and 10 years of network experience but little professional programming experience)
[23:48] <sputnick> hi thete
[23:48] <sputnick> hi there
[23:48] <adz21c> Seldaek: i don't know i never used DVD but i would assume so yea
[23:48] <wswindell> install REALbasic from my desktop through console
[23:49] <michael__> how can you switch the order of OS's (say.. windows & linux)
[23:49] <adz21c> wswindell: you should just need to right click and use GDebi
[23:49] <sputnick> what is the way to create a new account for pidgin/myspaceim ?
[23:49] <wswindell> my GDebi will not run properly
[23:49] <adz21c> michael__: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:49] <gtt> michael__: edit GRUB's configuration
[23:49] <michael__> Linux always lists first, and a customer of mine wants windows to be listed 1st
[23:49] <Seldaek> adz21c: okay thanks, well I'll kill xp and we'll see about reinstalling it later then
[23:50] <michael__> oh great ok
[23:50] <michael__> thanks
[23:50] <adz21c> Seldaek: good luck :-)
[23:50] <gtt> !grub
[23:50] <wswindell> should it be sudo dpkg /home/desktop/ FILENAME
[23:50] <adz21c> wswindell: use -i switch
[23:50] <wswindell> whats that
[23:50] <adz21c> wswindell: otherwise yea your there
[23:51] <adz21c> wswindell: dpkg -i /your/hile
[23:51] <wswindell> thanx
[23:51] <JESUSfreak_> hey i was trying to install an xp pro on this pc but after it copies the files and reboots it ends up with a blue screen saying there is something wrong with the driver
[23:51] <JESUSfreak_> hey i was trying to install an xp pro on this pc but after it copies the files and reboots it ends up with a blue screen saying there is something wrong with the driver
[23:52] <gtt> do we support windows here?
[23:52] <adz21c> JESUSfreak_ unlikely u will get much of a response in a linux room
[23:52] <coreymon77> JESUSfreak_: umm, this is the kubuntu linux channel
[23:52] <JESUSfreak_> ok
[23:52] <JESUSfreak_> sry
[23:54] <ZeH> that made me laugh :)
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> Hay all - My isp switched, now i seem to be having connection issues. im wanting to ping google.com every 5 min or so, and logg if im connected, or not  to see if the isp is goofing me up.
[23:54] <wswindell> adz21c: tell me the command for a file called REALbasicLinux.deb
[23:55] <Red_Tear> diskordia
[23:55] <adz21c> wswindell: cd to its directory then put dpkg -i REALbasicLinux.deb
[23:55] <Red_Tear> 4 ever
[23:55] <wswindell> how
[23:56] <michael__> ok 32 bit downloaded
[23:56] <adz21c> wswindell: cd [path to directory]
[23:56] <michael__> here goes the instal see you on the other side
[23:56] <adz21c> :-)
[23:56] <Red_Tear> i am on the other side
[23:56] <Red_Tear> break on through
[23:56] <michael__> lol
[23:56] <ZeH> michael__ 64 bit pwns 32 bit :P
[23:56] <adz21c> lol
[23:56] <Red_Tear> for discordia
[23:57] <charwood> I just installed Hardy Heron Alpha 6 on my new notebook.  I'm trying to get wireless to work.  It has the Intel 3945 card in it.  I am using the ilw3945 and iwlwifie_mac80211 modules and it seems to be working-ish.  KWifiManager sometimes sees my access point and sometimes doesn't.  (It's 2 feet away).  But it won't connect.
[23:57] <michael__> what?
[23:57] <Red_Tear> there is just chaos in the world
[23:57] <wswindell> should i type in home or desktop
[23:57] <ZeH> michael__ nvm go ahead and comeback on the bright side
[23:57] <adz21c> wswindell: i don't know, where is the file?
[23:57] <Red_Tear> allways look on the bright side of death
[23:57] <wswindell> my desktop
[23:57] <michael__> ha later
[23:58] <adz21c> wswindell: dpkg -i /home/[user]/Desktop/REALbasicLinux.deb
[23:58] <adz21c> wswindell: replace user with username


[01:37] <abrotman10> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[01:37] <abrotman10> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[01:37] <abrotman10> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[01:37] <abrotman10> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[01:37] <abrotman10> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[02:50] <Evel-Knievel0> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[02:50] <Evel-Knievel0> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[02:50] <Evel-Knievel0> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[02:50] <Evel-Knievel0> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[02:52] <rubdos14> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[02:52] <rubdos14> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[02:52] <rubdos14> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[02:52] <rubdos14> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[02:52] <rubdos14> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[04:18] <promote> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[04:18] <promote> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[04:18] <promote> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[04:18] <promote> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[04:18] <promote> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[04:37] <ms78218> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[04:37] <ms78218> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[04:37] <ms78218> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[04:37] <ms78218> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[04:37] <ms78218> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[04:46] <ultrabong> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[05:17] <hammond> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[05:17] <hammond> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[05:18] <hammond> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[05:18] <hammond> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[06:20] <Nietzsche7> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[06:20] <Nietzsche7> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:20] <Nietzsche7> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[06:20] <Nietzsche7> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[06:20] <Nietzsche7> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[07:45] <Razesdark> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[07:45] <Razesdark> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[07:45] <Razesdark> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[07:45] <Razesdark> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[07:45] <Razesdark> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[08:11] <basic`3> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:11] <basic`3> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[08:11] <basic`3> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[08:11] <basic`3> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[08:11] <basic`3> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[09:02] <n-st11> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[09:02] <n-st11> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[09:02] <n-st11> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[09:02] <n-st11> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[09:02] <n-st11> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[09:54] <SiLuman9> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[09:54] <SiLuman9> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[09:54] <SiLuman9> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[09:54] <SiLuman9> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[09:54] <SiLuman9> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[11:12] <Rune_K10> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[11:12] <Rune_K10> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[11:12] <Rune_K10> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[11:12] <Rune_K10> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[11:12] <Rune_K10> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[11:21] <ktr> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[11:21] <ktr> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[11:21] <ktr> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[11:21] <ktr> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[11:21] <ktr> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[12:54] <Mikaela-> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[12:54] <Mikaela-> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[12:55] <Guest11076> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[12:55] <Guest11076> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[12:55] <Guest11076> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[12:59] <ByronJohnson15> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[12:59] <ByronJohnson15> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[12:59] <ByronJohnson15> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[12:59] <ByronJohnson15> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[12:59] <ByronJohnson15> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[13:11] <r00tobo4> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[13:11] <r00tobo4> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[13:11] <r00tobo4> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[13:11] <r00tobo4> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[13:11] <r00tobo4> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[14:14] <lynxis24> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[14:14] <lynxis24> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[14:14] <lynxis24> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[14:14] <lynxis24> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[14:15] <lynxis24> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[14:17] <ManyRaptors15> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[14:17] <ManyRaptors15> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[14:18] <ManyRaptors15> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[14:18] <ManyRaptors15> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[14:18] <ManyRaptors15> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[15:42] <smaudet> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[15:42] <smaudet> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[15:42] <smaudet> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[15:42] <smaudet> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[15:42] <smaudet> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[15:54] <Guest95115> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[15:54] <Guest95115> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[15:54] <Guest95115> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[15:54] <Guest95115> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[15:54] <Guest95115> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:09] <pierte> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:15] <HollyW00d5> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:15] <HollyW00d5> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:15] <HollyW00d5> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:15] <HollyW00d5> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:15] <HollyW00d5> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:38] <grit25> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:38] <grit25> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:38] <grit25> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:38] <grit25> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:38] <grit25> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[17:00] <Selavi6> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[17:00] <Selavi6> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[17:00] <Selavi6> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[17:00] <Selavi6> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[17:00] <Selavi6> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[20:12] <KindOne14> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[20:12] <KindOne14> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[20:12] <KindOne14> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[20:12] <KindOne14> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[20:12] <KindOne14> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[22:02] <xeroks11> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[22:03] <xeroks11> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[22:03] <xeroks11> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[22:03] <xeroks11> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[22:03] <xeroks11> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[22:47] <lutoma16> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[22:47] <lutoma16> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[22:47] <lutoma16> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[22:47] <lutoma16> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[22:47] <lutoma16> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[23:44] <GeekDude8> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[23:44] <GeekDude8> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[23:44] <GeekDude8> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[23:44] <GeekDude8> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936