[08:04] <trollboy> if I click on trollboy on the top right of the menu bar, I get a chat option... I click it and get empathy not pidgin.  I prefer pidgin over empathy.  Pidgin is failing to flash on msg now, and as there's no indicator in the systray anymore, I'm missing msg's
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Gothicsatan: what is this message centre?
[08:04] <Blue1> piyushmishra: what's up?
[08:04] <lazaro> ActionParsnip yeah software sources says maverick everywhere
[08:04] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: HEY!
[08:04] <NowhereBoy> bye all
[08:04] <lazaro> ActionParsnip thank u brother, see ya
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Lazaro: then you are on maverick and this channel is no longer your source of support
[08:05] <Docteh> trollboy: i suspect the menu bar thing is hard coded for empathy or don't run it, but the notifications not showing up is a problem
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: yo yo yo
[08:05] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: nice to meet you again, oh great master
[08:05] <p1oooop> LOL
[08:05] <piyushmishra> p1oooop ,Blue1: Coding for enjoystudies
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: I'm just a user like you dude
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Hehe
[08:05] <Gothicsatan> ActionParsnip: In Ubunto Lucid, there is a message center (kinda, it's what i call it) that kinda groups up facebook, all ur IM's and email to 1 icon in the 'system tray'
[08:05] <nmvictor> i cant seem to find info regariding the key for gnome2-globalmenu in launchpad, can anyone please help me with that
[08:05] <spezticle> could someone link me to a default /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl file?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Gothicsatan: yeah pidgin hides in there sometimes
[08:06] <p1oooop> trollboy: hmm, you mean innotify is no longer doing anything pidgin?
[08:06] <elnur> I've installed ruby1.9.1 and to use I have to run ruby1.9.1. How can I run it as just ruby? Must I make a simlink by myself or there is a less hackish way?
[08:06] <p1oooop> trollboy: I believe there is a plugin for innotify. install the plugin pack for pidgin from the repositories
[08:06] <elnur> s/simlink/symlink
[08:06] <Docteh> !alternatives
[08:06] <Gothicsatan> ActionParsnip: he wants to change to Pidgeon, not sure how to do that.. they both seem the same to me
[08:06] <trollboy> well previously, pidgin had a little icon in the top that flashed on msg.. now all systray support in pidgin is gone
[08:06] <Docteh> elnur: try that
[08:07] <elnur> Docteh, just a sec
[08:07] <Gothicsatan> cause Lucid has it all combined
[08:07] <p1oooop> trollboy: you mean like innotify or something? like if a song changes in rhythmbox?
[08:07] <Gothicsatan> email/IM/facebook(and the like)
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Gothicsatan: cool :)
[08:07] <trollboy> like my xchat..
[08:08] <p1oooop> bye oh great master
[08:08] <Gothicsatan> it's sortal like that p1oooop
[08:08] <Gothicsatan> sorta*
[08:08] <trollboy> right now its got a icon next to the network icon and on the other side of it is quick synergy
[08:08] <trollboy> and its great
[08:08] <owner> anything that I can change fan control with?
[08:08] <trollboy> if you guys say my name, the icon flashes and I'm happy
[08:08] <mcl0vin> how can i access where firefox keeps its bookmarks from cli please
[08:08] <trollboy> but pidgin has no such icon anymore
[08:08]  * owner bricky
[08:08] <trollboy> nor does it flash on the bottom app list
[08:09] <p1oooop> I have no problem with pidgin, except the occasional crash, and that's only because I enabled a few unstable plugins
[08:09] <Gothicsatan> trollboy Empathy is Pidgeon..
[08:09] <Gothicsatan> sorta
[08:09] <trollboy> Gothicsatan, no.. its not
[08:09] <nmvictor> is their a way to tweak the metacity compositor?
[08:09] <trollboy> I don't like empathy, there's a difference
[08:09] <nmvictor> !info metacity
[08:09] <Blue1> nytol
[08:09] <Gothicsatan> trollboy: i used to like pidgeon better, now i'm suck with empathy cause it just works with everything..
[08:10] <Gothicsatan> trollboy: usage over visuals
[08:10] <elnur> Docteh, I tried `sudo update-alternatives --config ruby` and it told me, "update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for ruby."
[08:10] <NeonLightning> thune3: out of ideas?
[08:10] <trollboy> yeah, that's the thing Gothicsatan
[08:10] <p1oooop> trollboy: me neither, but I'm not sure about the flash thing... I have an audio alert instead...
[08:10] <trollboy> I don't want to have ubuntu decide what im client I use
[08:10] <p1oooop> easier that way
[08:10] <Docteh> elnur: odd
[08:10] <p1oooop> trollboy: did you remove empathy yet?
[08:11] <trollboy> yaeh
[08:11] <Gothicsatan> i've spent alot of time on google, using ubuntu lucid 10.04 and i have all my messengers/email working just fine
[08:11] <nmvictor> i want to change my GDM theme in Lucid, is that possible?
[08:11] <trollboy> now the chat clients thing does nothing
[08:11] <trollboy> I'm searching pidgin plugins
[08:11] <p1oooop> trollboy: oh mu...
[08:11] <p1oooop> my
[08:11] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: theme support has changed drastically from Hardry to Lucid
[08:11] <p1oooop> I'd rathe have innotify notify me...
[08:12] <p1oooop> there is a plugin to do that.
[08:12] <mokul> anyone use gmail video chat in browser?
[08:12] <nmvictor> Gothicsatan: so its not possible to do that
[08:12] <elnur> Docteh, seems like I have to hack it with a symlink, right?
[08:12] <p1oooop> mokul: does it work?
[08:12] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: u can.. but don't expect much support yet..
[08:12] <Docteh> elnur: yea, change the symlink in /etc/alternatives
[08:12] <farciarz84> hi, I shared my folder in the network, how it can be accesibble from the other comupters?
[08:12] <nmvictor> Gothicsatan: how can i
[08:12] <thune3> NeonLightning: i have ideas, and i'm looking but it's not coming fast
[08:13] <mokul> i cant do that so i m asking "anyone use gmail video chat in browser?"
[08:13] <aLemmer> Facairz84: You could use a simple VPN like Hamachi.
[08:13] <p1oooop> farciarz84: it's accessible through the network... places > network
[08:13] <elnur> Docteh, you know, there is NO alternatives for ruby ;)
[08:13] <elnur> Docteh, so, there is no symlink in /etc/alternatives
[08:13] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: System>Preferences>Apperance
[08:13] <p1oooop> farciarz84: it's also accessible through windows machines ;)
[08:13] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: that's how i change it..
[08:13] <Docteh> ohhhhh
[08:14] <farciarz84> p1oooop: sorry, but there is only windows-network without my machine
[08:14] <NeonLightning> thune3: no worries(its already quarter after 3 in the morning here so i'm not likely to sleep tonight anyway)
[08:14] <Docteh> so you get ruby1.9.1 and it doesn't try and take over ruby, thats odd
[08:14] <nmvictor> Gothicsatan: i meant GDM theme, the login manager...
[08:14] <farciarz84> p1oooop: can it be accessible trough ip adress?
[08:14] <p1oooop> farciarz84: I prefer hostname
[08:14] <farciarz84> p1oooop: whatever
[08:14] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: they removed alot of that from the lucid build
[08:14] <Docteh> thats interesting
[08:14] <p1oooop> farciarz84: //(host hame)/(share)
[08:14] <Gothicsatan> ditto NeonLightning
[08:14] <farciarz84> p1oooop: thx
[08:15] <p1oooop> farciarz84: no prob.
[08:15] <nmvictor> Gothicsatan: too bad
[08:15] <Docteh> elnur: i guess it makes sense, last time i installed ruby it didn't even make a ruby -> ruby1.8 symlink ;)
[08:15] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: i know, i loved that customization..
[08:15] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: i had found something online about how to modify it, made my OS not want to boot, so i sugguest not doing that
[08:16] <nmvictor> Gothicsatan: thanks
[08:16] <grimly> having a problem with gnome scheduler
[08:16] <farciarz84> p1oooop: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: Mountpoint Already registered
[08:16] <p1oooop> grimly: fire away
[08:16] <nmvictor> Gothicsatan: i had enough of reinstalling, dont wanna do that again
[08:17] <elnur> Docteh, it's just this way: ubuntu (debian) uses ruby1.8 as the current version, so, if you install a package called just ruby, it will install ruby1.8 and calling `ruby` will work
[08:17] <p1oooop> farciarz84: hmm, seems like you already mounted it
[08:17] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: lucid don't wannna let u customize it like u could before.. but u still have a certain lvl..
[08:17] <farciarz84> p1oooop: can you tell me how I can access the directory from windows?/
[08:17] <p1oooop> farciarz84: go to your /home/(your name)/.gvfs/ folder and see if it's there
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:18] <p1oooop> farciarz84: yeah, map network drive...
[08:18] <Gothicsatan> farciarz84: mount the windows partition..
[08:18] <lefantomedlopera> Hello
[08:18] <nmvictor> Gothicsatan: whats that
[08:18] <gusl> hello all, I'm struggling with installing LaTeX. I get "updmap-sys failed".
[08:18] <lefantomedlopera> what is the syntax to mount /dev/sda1 to /media/sda1 :?:
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> !hi | lefantomedlopera
[08:19] <farciarz84> p1oooop: no it is not there '(..)/.gvfs'
[08:19] <farciarz84> it's empty
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> lefantomedlopera: sudo mkdir /media/sda1; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /meda/sda1
[08:19] <p1oooop> farciarz84: so, your .gvfs folder is empty?
[08:19] <farciarz84> p1oooop: but the folder has double arrows
[08:19] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: i've made custom graphics for toolbars and window backgrounds.. been workin on new scrips for window borders, but that's more of a hobby for me, nothing offically supported
[08:19] <grimly> ploooop, when i just finished installing gnome-scheduler from the terminal and when i try to lauch scheduled tasks from system tools it doesnt start
[08:19] <farciarz84> the shared folder
[08:20] <farciarz84> p1oooop: .gvfs is empty
[08:20] <p1oooop> farciarz84: huh, I guess you didn't mount it...
[08:20] <lefantomedlopera> okay
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> grimly: launch it from terminal to get intelligent output
[08:20] <farciarz84> p1oooop: should I?
[08:20] <p1oooop> farciarz84: hmm...
[08:20] <lefantomedlopera> we have to make mkdir
[08:20] <nmvictor> Gothicsatan: id love that, is their a way i can have you as a friend on this channel?
[08:21] <Gothicsatan> mount loop
[08:21] <Gothicsatan> mkdir /mnt/iso
[08:21] <RondoRaven> I'm running into this error too much lately: The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but lsb-header is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> lefantomedlopera: yes it is not mounts job to make mount points
[08:21] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: i only design for myself..
[08:21] <grimly> ActionParsnip, what should i type? scheduled tasks??? it doesnt work
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> grimly: type: gnome-s ,then press tab a couple of times
[08:22] <Gothicsatan> nmvictor: soz
[08:22]  * nucc1 wonders what hplip is possibly downloading that is taking forever to finish installing
[08:22] <lefantomedlopera> but if we umount automated monted media, t automaticaly delet the folder /media/disk
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> grimly: trying to guess commands is silly. Tab will allow you to autocomple or see what's available
[08:23] <lefantomedlopera> idem for media mounted my nautilus
[08:23] <RondoRaven> am I having a problem with insserv or do I need to patch lsb-header somehow?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> lefantomedlopera: yes the gnome-mount-manager or somesuch doing its job
[08:24] <wavez> what's a good torrent client available for ubuntu?
[08:24] <grimly> ActionParsnip, ok
[08:24] <wavez> I'm a fan of uTorrent. I don't know if it's available for ubuntu
[08:24] <RondoRaven> waves: I like transmission
[08:24] <lefantomedlopera> but if I make sudo umount /media/disk-monted-by-nautilus
[08:24] <p1oooop> farciarz84: places > connect to server > (service type: windows share; server: (your server); share: (your share name)
[08:24] <p1oooop> hello xfact_
[08:24] <Gothicsatan> transmission = utorrent
[08:24] <lefantomedlopera> only umount make the unmount job? and the delet of the disk folder?
[08:25] <zen0> wavez: it will be soon
[08:25] <xfact_> Hello p1oooop
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> lefantomedlopera: if the partition is ntfs, use this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[08:25] <zen0> utorrent is getting ported to linux soon
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | Waves
[08:25] <p1oooop> lefantomedlopera: I don't think it deletes the folder...
[08:25] <grimly> ActionParsnip, gnome-s doesnt work but when i press tab i have a list of file
[08:25] <wavez> zen0, cool, can't wait :)
[08:26] <wavez> looks like transmission is already installed :)
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Grimly: yes, read the list. One will be the command you need
[08:26] <lefantomedlopera> if the folder isn't mounted by terminal, umount by terminal delet the folder :/
[08:26] <SirMoo> Anyone know of WinAMP works well using Wine on here? :/ Or is there another mp3 player that has an auto lyrics plugin?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Wavez: why do you like utorrent?
[08:26] <grimly> ActionParsnip, ok
[08:26] <Gothicsatan> Transmission works good, make sure u got it configured to ur Inet connection
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> !winamp | sirmoo
[08:26] <Gothicsatan> and ports and whatnot
[08:26] <trupheenix> hi i'm trying to use sshfs and i keep getting this error read: connection reset by peer.
[08:26] <lolren> there is a uttorent port for linux i forgot his name...
[08:26] <p1oooop> lefantomedlopera: hmm, well then there should be a command to stop that
[08:26] <trupheenix> i'm trying to connect to an amazon ec2 instance with a pem file
[08:27] <p1oooop> lefantomedlopera: dunno actually, I just always remade the folder..
[08:27] <lefantomedlopera> so I thought nautilus used sudo mount --option ....
[08:27] <MikeChelen> are there any pdf viewers that are meant for use with ebooks and support bookmarks?
[08:28] <wavez> ActionParsnip, I like the graphical representations, details that are shown, and UI
[08:28] <SirMoo> ActionParsnip, I realize that it's a windows thing. Thats why I mentioned wine... However, does this audacious have a lyrics plugin?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Wavez: transmission has a good ui
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Sirmoo: I believe so. You'd have to check the audacious site to be double sure
[08:29] <p1oooop> ^^ I agree
[08:29] <Gothicsatan> MikeChelen: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS come built-in with PDF Viewer
[08:29] <p1oooop> err, I agreed with ActionParsnip
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Waves: it also has a web ui like utorrent can too
[08:29] <p1oooop> transmission also has a web interface :_)
[08:29] <MikeChelen> Gothicsatan, evince doesn't have many ebook reader features, such as bookmarking pages
[08:29] <p1oooop> oops, forgot to look at screen, sorry
[08:29] <grimly> ActionParsnip, gnome-schedule i ve found it but still not working
[08:30] <p1oooop> grimly: for some reason, it doesn't work...
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Waves: some smartphones even have apps to connect to the web interface for remote goodness from your phone (android has transdroid which rocks)
[08:30] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, use ssh-add key.pem
[08:30] <Gothicsatan> MikeChelen: have you checked the Software Center?
[08:30] <grimly> ploooop, what am i suppose to do?
[08:30] <p1oooop> grimly: dunno why though...
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Grimly: what is output when you run it
[08:30] <MikeChelen> Gothicsatan, looking through there now, only found okular to try so far
[08:31] <p1oooop> grimly: I haven't found the answer to that one, but I'll let you know if I find something
[08:31] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, ok wait i'll tell u what command i'm using
[08:31] <xerox1> i get /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). error when i write on terminal sudo update-grub2. im on live cd now (ubuntu 10.04) im trying to install grub2 again because windows has deleted it after format. can you please help me ?
[08:31] <grimly> ActionParsnip, nohing happen the windows act like it wanna start something but nothing
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Grimly: no output in the terminal at all?
[08:31] <grimly> ActionParsnip, nothing
[08:31] <p1oooop> trupheenix: hmm, wrong command?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Weird
[08:32] <grimly> ploooop, cool
[08:32] <MikeChelen> Gothicsatan, okular seems to be better, thanks :)
[08:32] <p1oooop> trupheenix: I remember running something... forgot what it was though, sorry
[08:32] <grimly> ActionParsnip, yeah really strange i was trying to do this http://www.simplehelp.net/2010/05/31/how-to-set-a-rotating-picture-of-the-earth-as-your-wallpaper-in-ubuntu/
[08:32] <Wexi> so, anyone have any ideas how to get /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default ton run at reboot/shutdown on Lucid?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Grimly: incidentally I did something similar the other day :)
[08:33] <p1oooop> Wexi: I know how to get it to run in the beginning...
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Grimly: I use gnome-schedule to cron the script to analyse the hour
[08:33] <shay27> Hello , I am using Evolution for mail , until last night everything was great , and now when i clicking on the Evolution icon i get the new account wizard , it seems my account setting gone somehow .. does it mean all my stored data gone ? how can i restore my data ? why this thing happen ?
[08:34] <grimly> ActionParsnip, but when i try to run gnome-schedule nothing happens
[08:34] <laomao> morning
[08:34] <p1oooop> shay27: did you have any hardrive errors while booting?
[08:34] <Gothicsatan> update to smtp protocols ?
[08:34] <trupheenix> plooop MikeChelen still get a read:connection reset by peer
[08:34] <Wexi> p1oooop: what's the use of that?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> grimly: could just use cron as is
[08:35] <p1oooop> Wexi: I know, right
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> !cron | grimly
[08:35] <Gothicsatan> trupheenix: router port settings
[08:35] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, use ssh-add -l to check if it was added properly, might want to temporarily remove other ssh keys
[08:35] <grimly> ubottu. thanx
[08:35] <p1oooop> lol
[08:35] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, could also try ssh -i key.pem user@host
[08:35] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, that works
[08:35] <bricky> I installed a broadcom driver in synaptic and it does not do anything, why? :)
[08:35] <shay27> p1oooop: i think so , before a day when i turn on the computer i see the hardrive scanning process and i pressed skip (but the computer didn't crashed at any point (before the scanning , so i assumed its regular scanning from time to time)
[08:36] <no-name> unable to mount CD-R Disc -- Error mounting: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only -- mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
[08:36]  * no-name clueless
[08:36] <gus_> hello
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Bricky: if you run: sudo iwlist scan ,do you see access points?
[08:36] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, great, it can be picky when more than one key get used
[08:36] <Gothicsatan> no-name: please use pastebin
[08:36] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, no there is only one key atm
[08:37] <bricky> ActionParsnip: :( nope
[08:37] <RondoRaven> !rtirq
[08:37] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, hmm well thats weird
[08:37] <no-name> Gothicsatan: sorry, will do next time
[08:37] <DJ_HaMsTa> how does one use twonky ?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Bricky: then its probably not installed right
[08:37] <p1oooop> shay27: hmm... maybe you wanna scan it yourself... just to be sure nothing is wrong?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | bricky
[08:37] <grimly> thanx guyz see you later
[08:37] <RondoRaven> !irq
[08:37] <Gothicsatan> no-name google mounting ISO
[08:37] <p1oooop> shay27: and, I also believe that your account information is stored in your home folder...
[08:38] <bricky> ActionParsnip: ok
[08:38] <p1oooop> shay27: but, I am not sure what folder.
[08:38] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, this is amazon EC2 running a ubuntu server
[08:38] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, would u know anything ?
[08:38] <no-name> Gothicsatan, it is a real disc
[08:38] <Gothicsatan> no-name is it a windows install disc?
[08:38] <no-name> Gothicsatan: yeah
[08:39] <shay27> p1oooop: its in .evolution , but the question how can i restore it ?
[08:39] <Gothicsatan> no-name do you have wine installed?
[08:39] <Gothicsatan> no-name or simalar?
[08:39] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, my experience was that multiple keys could cause authentication denials
[08:39] <no-name> no, i'll install it now
[08:39] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, did ssh -i work?
[08:39] <fcuk112> ubuntu doesn't seem to remember my visual effects setting between reboots - it goes back to none?
[08:39] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, yea ssh -i works
[08:39] <no-name> (is new ubuntu install :)
[08:39] <Wexi> or, does anyone know how to edit gnomes shutdown option in the menu
[08:39] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, it's only sshfs which seems not to play well
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Fcuk112: what video card?
[08:40] <Gothicsatan> no-name: open a terminal window, and type in 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[08:40] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, is it a different protocol?
[08:40] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, but ssh-add -l only shows the one, correct key?
[08:40] <Wexi> for example in such way that it first performs a logout and then shuts down the computer
[08:40] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, yes
[08:40] <fcuk112> ActionParsnip: ati 4670
[08:40] <Gothicsatan> no-name: once that has finished type 'wine <path to .exe file>
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Fcuk112: try adding an item in startup items to run: compiz --replace ,should be ok then
[08:40] <no-name> Gothicsatan: no matter. I'm just getting it through ubuntu software centre
[08:41] <Gothicsatan> no-name: same difference, lol
[08:41] <no-name> hehe
[08:41] <fcuk112> ActionParsnip: thanks will try that!
[08:41] <no-name> ok
[08:41] <Gothicsatan> no-name: i just like to see what's install, and if there are errors, i know where/what/how to fix
[08:41] <no-name> ok
[08:41] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, same protocol, they should both work the same way
[08:41] <trupheenix> MikeChelen,
[08:41] <no-name> it is a windows os install, not software /for/ windows
[08:41] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, :(
[08:41] <p1oooop> shay27: ./evolution, .gconf/apps/evolution/, and .gnome2_private/evolution
[08:41] <no-name> for virtualbox
[08:42] <Gothicsatan> i run windows apps with wine all the time.. just beware.. u will have to configure each
[08:42] <no-name> ok
[08:43] <Gothicsatan> no-name: if u plan on gaming and stuff. you will need winetricks
[08:43] <no-name> ok
[08:43] <no-name> thank you Gothicsatan
[08:43] <Gothicsatan> no-name: nps
[08:43] <iceroot> can you gave the the url from the firefox startpage? (the ubuntu startpage for 10.04 using google) cant remember the adress
[08:45] <Salah> any ideas how to install minimal gnome desktop? I am currently using only a command line system
[08:45] <zen0> install ubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <zen0> :)
[08:45] <xerox1> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?) i get this error when im writing on live cd ubuntu 10.04 terminal sudo update-grub2. can someone please help me ?
[08:46] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, ah i see the problem. probably sftp isn't enabled in the sshd
[08:46] <Jordan_U> xerox1: Follow this guide (you can ignore the grub-install command if you really only want update-grub / grub-mkconfig): grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[08:47] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, -i might work with sshfs too
[08:48] <farciarz84> p1oooop: I've already check that but with hostname this is not possible, with ip address I see also some error, but I can see the folders
[08:48] <nucc1> anybody know what "bits per plane" mean in printer options?
[08:48] <egtux> hello i am using ubuntu 10.04 after last system upgrade , the empathy give network error for msn ,yahoo and hotmail account
[08:49] <greezmunkey> http://mylinuxweb.com/2010/06/09/att-security-breach-exposes-114000-ipad-3g-customer-e-mails-report/
[08:50] <xerox1> Jordan_U: it is very difficult. is there any command to re-install the grub automatically (i know where the linux has installed)
[08:51] <chatur> i have an ubuntu 10.04 with ATI radeon 7500 .i haven installed any drivers for my graphics card as of now
[08:52] <Jordan_U> xerox1: No, it can only be done automatically from the booted system (which has all of the information needed to install already saved/accessable)
[08:53] <chatur> i have an ubuntu 10.04 with ATI radeon 7500 .i haven installed any drivers for my graphics card as of now.whenever i watch some movies in fullscreen the entire screen seems choppy.how so i set it right
[08:53] <Jordan_U> xerox1: You can use Super GRUB2 Disk to boot your system automatically though, if you have an extra CD / Flash drive
[08:53] <frallzor> hello   Having some issues when trying to follow this guide  http://www.rantakokko.net/tapani/blog/2009/04/29/lg-l1730sf-touch-screen-display-in-ubuntu-linux-804-hardy-heron/    Cant get the touch to use the correct driver, no matter what
[08:53] <llutz> greezmunkey: the word "linux" in the url doesn't make it on-topic here
[08:53] <anyoneofus> i get a error when i type: "apt-get remove clamav" http://paste.ubuntu.com/447633/
[08:53] <anyoneofus> someone help me
[08:54] <mtx_init> anyoneofus: you must first stop the daemon
[08:54] <mtx_init> give me a minute
[08:54] <mtx_init> type this
[08:54] <mtx_init> sudo /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam stop
[08:54] <mtx_init> then try to remove
[08:55] <Gothicsatan|AFK> chatur: install the plugins for the media player
[08:56] <anyoneofus> mtx_init: http://paste.ubuntu.com/447634/
[08:56] <anyoneofus> it's not work
[08:56] <mtx_init> do this
[08:56] <mtx_init> sudo apt-get install clamav
[08:56] <mtx_init> then stop it
[08:56] <mtx_init> then remove
[08:57] <greezmunkey> llutz: I try not to go off t too much, interesting "computer" related story though...I know...no excuses :)
[08:57] <anyoneofus> mtx_init: hix, i can't install clamav
[08:57] <llutz> greezmunkey: #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[08:57] <Gothicsatan|AFK> sudo apt-get purge clamav
[08:58] <Gothicsatan|AFK> sudo apt-get --purge clamav
[08:58] <xerox1> Jordan_U: i dont think that i can. anyway. thank you! i will wait for other answers...
[08:59] <Gothicsatan|AFK> wb owner/dwar
[08:59] <lefantomedlopera> Hello I'm on lxdx: how can I do to mount the media and to write on this media without to be root?
[08:59] <anyoneofus> mtx_init: they aren't work
[08:59] <Gothicsatan|AFK> bricky*
[09:00] <bricky> Gothicsatan: Thanks :)
[09:00] <Gothicsatan|AFK> lefantomedlopera sudo
[09:00] <Galerien> /
[09:00] <anyoneofus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/447637/
[09:00] <lefantomedlopera> but i don't want to make sudo pcman to edit the file on the media
[09:00] <bricky> this is weird, I dont know what happened but somethings seriously messed now :P
[09:01] <Gothicsatan|AFK> yw bricky
[09:01] <mtx_init> is it started anyoneofus?
[09:01] <bricky> I cant use any shortcut keys, my X is messed too
[09:01] <bricky> Gothicsatan: yw?
[09:01] <lefantomedlopera> and I want that the owner of the media is " lefantomedlopera " and not " root "
[09:01] <Gothicsatan|AFK> your welcome*
[09:01] <bricky> Thanks dude, you scerwed me?
[09:01] <Gothicsatan|AFK> lol, no, unless ur a female that's hot :P
[09:01] <bricky> Gothicsatan: lol
[09:02] <mtx_init> anyoneofus: do this
[09:02] <Flannel> Gothicsatan|AFK: That's not appropriate at all.
[09:02] <mtx_init> /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam force-reload
[09:02] <mtx_init> sudo
[09:02] <anyoneofus> mtx_init: yep :D
[09:02] <bricky> Gothicsatan: someone screwed me man I think you did it
[09:02] <bricky> since I was stupid enough to log on here as owner
[09:02] <Gothicsatan|AFK> Flannel: i know lol
[09:02] <mtx_init> then try to stop iot, anyoneofus
[09:02] <Type-O> brian, what happend?
[09:02] <Gothicsatan|AFK> i plead the 5th
[09:02] <bricky> Gothicsatan: put it back to how it was!
[09:03] <Gothicsatan|AFK> oh uhh uhh. /me kicks the computer
[09:03] <Gothicsatan|AFK> i hope that helped lol
[09:03] <bricky> Gothicsatan: your a piece of crap dude, It cost me money to fix this
[09:03] <Gothicsatan|AFK> bill me
[09:03] <xerox1> can someone help me please to install my grub2 :(
[09:03] <Gothicsatan|AFK> lol
[09:03] <bricky> Gothicsatan blow me
[09:03] <lefantomedlopera> I don't want this about my usb kay! http://nsa15.casimages.com/img/2010/06/10/100610100419958694.png
[09:03] <Flannel> bricky, Gothicsatan|AFK: please stop.
[09:04] <Gothicsatan|AFK> Flannel: k, soz
[09:04] <bricky> Gothicsatan: where you live
[09:04] <Crshman> Is there a CLI version of the "find fastest mirror" feature for ubuntu server?
[09:04] <Flannel> bricky: What's the issue?
[09:04] <Gothicsatan|AFK> bricky: not appropriate for this channel
[09:04] <bricky> Flannel: he just rooted me and screwed up my OS by the looks of it..
[09:04] <bricky> =(
[09:04] <Flannel> bricky: What makes you think that?
[09:05] <Gothicsatan|AFK> Flannel: cause i'm the devil lol
[09:05] <Type-O> bricky, are you behind a router?
[09:05] <bricky> Flannel: he randomly said 'wb' and I said my system was screwed and he followed it up with a 'Yw'
[09:05] <Jordan_U> xerox1: This won't help for updating the grub.cfg (which is what update-grub does), but for re-installing grub to the boot sector you can do "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda" (not /dev/sda1) where your Ubuntu partition is mounted to /mnt
[09:05] <bricky> Type-O: no
[09:05] <Flannel> bricky: Alright, so apart from that, what is messed up with your system?
[09:05] <bricky> Type-O maybe It was dumb of me to log on as owner.
[09:06] <bricky> Flannel: my close buttons are gone, half my X is missing, no shortcut keys are available
[09:06] <Type-O> brian, you mean root?
[09:06] <Type-O> bricky, *
[09:06] <Flannel> bricky: And what were you doing last when this happened?
[09:06] <mtx_init> anyoneofus: Hows it going?
[09:06] <bricky> Flannel: I was just trying to install my broadcom driver, then before reboot
[09:07] <bricky> it claimed to be looking for ongoing or unsaved changes
[09:07] <Gothicsatan> bricky: what was wrong with the old one?
[09:07] <chatur> i have a ati radeon 7500 graphics with ubuntu 10.04.i dont have any graphics driver installed as of now as its not available.but whenever i try to watch some movies in full screen,the whole screen seems unclear.how do i solve this issue?
[09:07] <xerox1> Jordan_U: i did something but i dont know if it is worked. i will restrt now my computer. if it is not worked i will come back. thank you!
[09:07] <bricky> Gothicsatan: nothing, but thanks for helping me out man, lol
[09:07] <Type-O> do you have telnetd running?
[09:07] <bricky> Gothicsatan: im gonna get you back one way or another,
[09:08] <bricky> Type-O probably do
[09:08] <Gothicsatan> chatur: there's a fixx
[09:08] <Type-O> check
[09:08] <Flannel> bricky: Did you install openssh server?
[09:08] <Gothicsatan> bricky: lol, thanks for the warning
[09:08] <chatur> Gothicsatan:how can i do that.
[09:08] <bricky> Flannel: I did get the recent updates so most likely but not directly
[09:08] <indus> chatur, maybe its a settings problem, try using vlc
[09:08] <Gothicsatan> chatur: System> Administration > Hardware Drivers
[09:09] <Gothicsatan> chatur: Install the ATI Propriatary drivers.
[09:09] <Flannel> bricky: It won't be installed without you doing so.  So, I think it's highly unlikely that anything happened other than things breaking.
[09:09] <bricky> Flannel: it just seems odd he would say those words in that order, lol
[09:09] <Flannel> bricky: does `ps aux | grep sshd` return anything (anything other than the grep line itself)
[09:10] <bricky> Flannel: oh yeah, I cant use terminal either.
[09:10] <Type-O> bricky, I suggest setting up iptables with firestarter if you don't have a hardware firewall/nat
[09:10] <bricky> ah there we go
[09:10] <jo-erlend> bricky, you said thanks, and then Gothicsatan said you're welcome.
[09:10] <bricky> its working again
[09:10] <Gothicsatan> chatur: it will have a button to "activate" the drivers.
[09:10] <indus> chatur, you dont need any drivers, your card uses the open source driver , do you see something in admin>hardware drivers?
[09:10] <Gothicsatan> jo-erlend mis-tell?
[09:10] <bricky> I sugest im going to sell this laptop and buy a new one tomorrow
[09:10] <jo-erlend> Gothicsatan?
[09:11] <Gothicsatan> bricky: i'll buy for 20 bucks :P
[09:11] <chatur> Indus,Gothicsatan:i have vlc installed in my system already.and admin>hardware drivers does not show up any drivers which can be enabled
[09:11] <bricky> but thanks Flannel
[09:11] <Type-O> bricky, how much?
[09:11] <Gothicsatan> jo-erlend: that's me
[09:11] <Flannel> Gothicsatan, bricky: drop it.
[09:11] <Flannel> or take it elsewhere.
[09:11] <indus> chatur, yes because there isnt any driver available for your card, and you are already using the open source driver
[09:11] <bricky> Type-O you dont want this one unless you want to re-seal the heatsinks
[09:11] <indus> chatur, in vlc, have you set the video filter options ?
[09:11] <Type-O> ouch?
[09:12] <indus> chatur, and output xv etc
[09:12] <bricky> its got a good screen, keyboard, etc, lol thats about it tho
[09:12] <Type-O> I'll stick with mine ^_^
[09:12] <Gothicsatan> chatur: VLC has nothing to do with your video drivers..
[09:13] <bricky> im buying a new one but this is just out rageous whats happening here
[09:13] <Gothicsatan> chatur: AMD/ATI supports linux.. u can either use the built in software to install the drivers, or download straight from AMD
[09:14] <Flannel> bricky: There's no way your heatsinks became unseated from someone in this channel.  Please drop the subject, thanks.
[09:14] <Gothicsatan> quote: <chatur> i have a ati radeon 7500 graphics with ubuntu 10.04.i dont have any graphics driver installed
[09:14] <trupheenix> MikeChelen, it works! :) i removed the .ssh/known_hosts entry
[09:14] <Gothicsatan> install the drivers
[09:15] <crdlb> Gothicsatan: chatur: there is no driver to install for such and old GPU
[09:15] <crdlb> the preinstalled radeon driver is all there is
[09:15] <Gothicsatan> crdlb: a 7800? i think hes confused between nvidia and ATI
[09:16] <Gothicsatan> i have an ATI Radeon 4200HD Mobility, and i had the option
[09:16] <firekraag> lspci | grep -i vga
[09:16] <Gothicsatan> go to the ATI site, and download the driver
[09:16] <crdlb> Gothicsatan: a radeon 7500 is very old
[09:17] <chatur> crdlb,Gothicsatin,indus:if graphic driver isnt the problem.then how can i modify the settings in VLC
[09:17] <chatur> ?
[09:17] <Galerien> crdlb: so is the Nvidia 7500...
[09:17] <Gothicsatan> crdlb: true... so the default driver should take care of it, but they should still have something
[09:17] <SailorReality> i tried downloading Ubuntu windows installer but it keeps saying 'cant download metafile and therefore ISO abort download'
[09:17] <Galerien> chatur: tool ==> preferences
[09:17] <Gothicsatan> chatur: what galerien said
[09:17] <Galerien> ^^
[09:18] <crdlb> Gothicsatan: there never was a proprietary driver for the 7500
[09:18] <crdlb> not even when it was new
[09:18] <Gothicsatan> crdlb: u sure?
[09:18] <zfmf> hi i have a new harddisk, i try to install ubuntu, parted -l show that the new harddisk partition is a lvm , can i install ubuntu on this, the installer show on point 4 nothing, must i create the partition with live cd
[09:18] <{g}> Hello Ubuntu! When I telnet to another computer, my terminal title switches to me@othermachine. But when I exit telnet, it doesnt switch back. Any idea why? I have to say that new terminals only display "terminal" in the title. Maybe thats related?
[09:19] <rocket16> People, I once asked a question, on how to reduce excessive memory consumption in Pidgin. My Pidgin took 120 MB RAM, and I didn't find any way to solve this. Even by reinstalling this, I couldn't get a fix. Now, I found one. If anybody has this problem, use sudo apt-get purge pidgin to remove it completely, and then reinstall it. Now, remove the .purplr folder in your folder, and you're done. Now Pidgin takes only 11 MB RAM, :D Thought it might help peop
[09:19] <crdlb> Gothicsatan: they originally supported 8500 and up, then only 9500 and up, and now only HD **** cards
[09:19] <rocket16> * .purple
[09:19] <Gothicsatan> crdlb: figures.
[09:20] <crdlb> chatur: do you have desktop effects (compiz) on? turning that off might improve video performance
[09:20] <vishaltelangre> rocket16, I liked empathy in lucid than pidgin which was in my prev jaunty
[09:20] <chatur> crdlb,gothicsatan,indus:Thanks guys...i tried the settings you ve told.....its working perfectly.
[09:21] <SailorReality> http://wubi-installer.org/ why cant it download the metalink and thereofre the ISO
[09:21] <Gothicsatan> chatur: Your welcome.. enjoy some movies now..
[09:21] <Gothicsatan> chatur: :)
[09:21] <frischis09> !by
[09:21] <frischis09> !list
[09:21] <chatur> much i better than before...i ve to test it out in some other movies as well.
[09:22] <Gothicsatan> chatur.. did u download from the ati site?
[09:22] <crdlb> chatur: do you mean setting the output to 'xv' fixed it?
[09:22] <chatur> ya
[09:22] <Galerien> chatur: for me the best setting is GNU/Linux framebuffer
[09:22] <SailorReality> hello
[09:22] <manishe> hi guys. anybody knows, did i can use grep and cat inside tar, zip archives?
[09:22] <crdlb> chatur: that should have been the default :/
[09:22] <Gothicsatan> lol, specify,. so many replies
[09:22] <Gothicsatan> might help someone who's back-quiet
[09:23] <rocket16> vishaltelangre: Well, depends on choice. Empathy in lucid has a nice theme, of Adium. Telepathy control and Adium themes might beautify Empathy, but IRC features are really basic there. Also, Pidgin can be themed like Adium too, :)
[09:23] <Gothicsatan> wb bricky ;)
[09:23] <kiamo> hello :)
[09:23] <bricky> Gothicsatan :)
[09:23] <SailorReality> fags
[09:23] <rocket16> Hi kiamo, welcome to Ubunutu IRC
[09:23] <Gothicsatan> :/
[09:23] <bricky> thank you sir
[09:23] <Gothicsatan> yw
[09:24] <SailorReality> kjfdajkafdjfd
[09:24] <SailorReality> jfds
[09:24] <SailorReality> jf
[09:24] <SailorReality> ffjfsf
[09:24] <SailorReality> f
[09:24] <SailorReality> f
[09:24] <bricky> now on to business :P
[09:24] <FloodBot2> SailorReality: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:24] <kiamo> how do I determine what version of grub I have installed?  I tried grub-setup --version, and it says 1.98, however I don't have a menu.lst file which makes me think it is version 2...
[09:24] <rocket16> SailorReality: Please don't flood, this is a support area.
[09:24] <SailorReality> rocket16 can i plz get support for my windows installer
[09:24] <manishe> kiamo: 1.98 is a newest version
[09:24] <SailorReality> of ubuntu
[09:24] <vishaltelangre> rocket16, yeah, it's unable to open new private message pane/window there... But nice!
[09:25] <vishaltelangre> rocket16, prev comment is about *IRC in empathy
[09:25] <kiamo> manishe, oh ok.  I thought there was a version 2
[09:25] <rocket16> SailorReality: Sure,
[09:25] <rocket16> vishaltelangre: Yes, :)
[09:25] <SailorReality> rocket16: it says 'cant download metalink and therefore ISO download aborted'
[09:25] <manishe> kiamo: 1.98 is a beta of 2
[09:25] <bricky> Gothicsatan: turns out it was in recovery mode , lol =(
[09:26] <kiamo> manishe, I dont get a grub menu when starting up, how do I enable that and add my windows partition to it?
[09:26] <Gothicsatan> bricky: how'd u manage that?
[09:26] <manishe> anybody knows, did i can use grep and cat inside tar, zip archives?
[09:26] <Jordan_U> manishe: No, it is not. Just like 0.97 (the last release of grub legacy) was not a beta
[09:26] <rocket16> SailorReality: I see, better to download an ISO image of Ubuntu, and then burn it to a CD, and install from it. It will be better, error-free and easy.
[09:26] <manishe> Jordan_U: I see
[09:26] <bricky> *sigh, another lesson learned the hard way :)
[09:26] <vishaltelangre> kiamo, fix it using ubuntu's live cd...
[09:26] <rocket16> vishaltelangre: Here is a Screenshot of how Pidgin can be made to look like Adium/Empathy http://imagebin.org/98910
[09:26] <vishaltelangre> kiamo, grub or grub2?
[09:27] <Gothicsatan> rocket16: i installed my Ubuntu from an SD card
[09:27] <SailorReality> rocket16: I tried making a DVD of it but I downloaded the CD versin idk if that matters, but it never showed up on the DVD
[09:27] <kiamo> vishaltelangre, 1.98 lol
[09:27] <Gothicsatan> rocket16: runs great
[09:27] <rocket16> Gothicsatan: Ah, great. I once decided t try, but then decided to make an USB Installer, as it is somewhat faster than CD in installation.
[09:27] <bricky> Gothicsatan: if I only knew how lol
[09:28] <Gothicsatan> rocket16: google up 'Unetbootin'
[09:28] <rocket16> Gothicsatan: I tried that already, :) And have made it too.
[09:28] <Gothicsatan> rocket16: will take an ISO of ubuntu and make it a bootable SD/USB
[09:28] <vishaltelangre> kiamo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[09:28] <Gothicsatan> bricky: doh
[09:28] <kiamo> vishaltelangre, aha! thanks I'll take a look
[09:28] <rocket16> Gothicsatan: Yes, I did use Unetbootin to make USB installer, :)
[09:28] <MikeChelen> trupheenix, ah great, nice catch :)
[09:29] <Jordan_U> kiamo: "sudo update-grub" should detect your windows install and add a menu entry for it
[09:29] <duxbuz> is there a way to see make menuconfig options for my current kernel, to see the difference between my ubuntu machine and another running a different kernel?
[09:29] <chatur> Indus,Gothicsatan:i tried changing those settings...Improve the quality at all.
[09:29] <rocket16> Jordan_U: Sorry, but won't that be sudo apt-get update grub2?
[09:29] <rocket16> Jordan_U: Sorry , I meant, sudo update-grub2
[09:29] <chatur> Gothicsatan,Indus:i tried changing those settings...Improve the quality at all.
[09:30] <Gothicsatan> chatur: i'm not really 'up to par' on the older cards, so maybe someone else may be able to help you more, sorry :/
[09:30] <vishaltelangre> rocket16, great it supports opening a side pane, can I configure my empathy as like your pidgin so as I chat on IRC from there?
[09:30] <Jordan_U> rocket16: update-grub2 just calls update-grub (try running "cat $(which update-grub2)"
[09:30] <chatur> k thank you
[09:31] <irvken> if I use Konqueror as an sftp client, it constantly keeps asking me for the password as I drill down directories, but I don't get that when I ssh into the same remote machine, this happens on a couple of remote machines, is it a bug in Konqueror or do I have to set something up differently
[09:31] <garylieberman> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu and it's not working. If anyone isn't busy, I could use some help.
[09:31] <Jordan_U> !ask | garylieberman
[09:31] <rocket16> Jordan_U: Thanks, :)
[09:31] <kiamo> Jordan_U, yay it did :)
[09:31] <kiamo> thanks
[09:31] <Gothicsatan> irvken: download filezilla, it's a great FTP Client with native linux support, and has all encryption types
[09:31] <Jordan_U> kiamo: You're welcome.
[09:32] <Jordan_U> rocket16: You're welcome.
[09:32] <Ascavasaion> How do I change my ident... so that a /whois Ascavasaion shows soemthing like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:32] <rocket16> garylieberman: So, what's the error?
[09:32] <rocket16> Jordan_U: :)
[09:32] <Nordiques> k
[09:32] <garylieberman> Well I installed Ubuntu and it told me to restart. Now it's just giving me a purple screen and a mouse. I can move the mouse, it doesn't seem to be crashing or freezing, but I can't do anything. This is on a seperate laptop from the one I am using to type this, obviously.
[09:33] <vishaltelangre> Gothicsatan, Nautilus itself allows FTP support, just open File > connect to server menu
[09:33] <kiamo2> Jordan_U, I just rebooted my laptop and grub menu appeared with windows choice, but then I get error: no such device: fc...blah
[09:33] <kiamo2> hd1,1 cannot get c/h/s values
[09:34] <Gothicsatan> vishaltelangre: Filezilla is alot easier to maintain FTP servers, and dont' require u to input the password multiple times, like he was having a problem with.. i <3 that prog
[09:34] <rocket16> garylieberman: I see, does this happen everytime?
[09:34] <garylieberman> I have only restarted once, it requires me to hard shut down.
[09:34] <vishaltelangre> Gothicsatan, I use both! LOL! :P
[09:34] <garylieberman> so I would prefer to not have to restart much.
[09:34] <Gothicsatan> vishaltelangre: lol
[09:34] <VagueDustin> hi all
[09:35] <garylieberman> It appears to be running the OS, as the screen just went black due to inactivity and lit up again when I moved the mouse.
[09:35] <garylieberman> There just isn't anything on the desktop.
[09:35] <rocket16> garylieberman: No problem, try it again, and it will work. In case it doesn't, press Ctrl+Alt+F2, and login to shell there, and type: killall -user username      (username is your username there)
[09:35] <vishaltelangre> garylieberman, no panels also?
[09:35] <garylieberman> no panels as well yes. But thanks, I'll restart.
[09:36] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: did you try to install another WM?
[09:36] <rocket16> garylieberman: That happens because some applets fail to load sometimes, this will fix them up. After you login, reset the panels:
[09:36] <rocket16> !resetpanel | garylieberman
[09:36] <FireCrotch> irvken: there is a "Remember password" checkbox when you login via SFTP in Konqueror, I believe.  There should be, at least.
[09:37] <SailorReality> do DVD Isos different from CD ISos
[09:37] <huyngochoang1> DVD iso contains more package than CDs
[09:37] <kiamo2> does anyone know what "error: no such device. error: hd1,1 cannot get C/H/S values." means when I try and boot windows from grub menu?
[09:37] <FireCrotch> SailorReality: The DVD isos contain a whole bunch of translations for Ubuntu. Other than that, they're mostly the same
[09:37] <huyngochoang1> but the core package is the same in two of them
[09:37] <garylieberman> Excuse me if this seems rude, but everyone seems to be giving me different advice. I'm in the ctrl+alt+F2 menu now.
[09:38] <garylieberman> should I try everything suggested or just one?
[09:38] <SailorReality> FireCrotch: I downloaded the CD Iso but i only had a DVD and then i tried to burn it to the DVD but it wouldnt work
[09:38] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: did you try to install another WM?
[09:38] <irvken> FireCrotch, yeah, doesn't matter how many times I tick it, I still get prompted for the password, Filezilla, which I had installed does work better, but I prefer the Konqueror interface, c'est la vie
[09:38] <Jordan_U> kiamo2: Try asking in #grub
[09:38] <kiamo2> Jordan_U, good call :)
[09:38] <vishaltelangre> !resetpanel | garylieberman
[09:39] <garylieberman> what is a WM exactly?
[09:39] <Gothicsatan> Windows Manager
[09:39] <vishaltelangre> garylieberman, just do this from single user (command line) mode, to return to GUI press ctrl+alt+F7
[09:40] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: instead of Gnome or KDE, u installed Enlightenment or fluxbox
[09:41] <SailorReality> is installing hard
[09:41] <Jordan_U> kiamo2: It's a slow channel, but if you wait long enough (sometimes hours) you'll almost always get a good answer.
[09:41] <SailorReality> wut do u have 2 do
[09:41] <garylieberman> I don't think I have a way of installing those. My OS appears to consist of nothing but a purple screen and a mouse right now. Let me try resetting first.
[09:42] <FireCrotch> SailorReality: What do you mean by "it doesn't work"? The disc doesnt get burned? You can't boot from the disc after successfully creating it?
[09:42] <vishaltelangre> garylieberman, ctrl+alt+f1 then try above command by ubottu
[09:42] <huyngochoang1> I lost my Me Menu. How can I get it again in the top panel
[09:42] <huyngochoang1> ?
[09:42] <Gothicsatan> huyngochoang1: ..
[09:43] <Gothicsatan> huyngochoang1: right click and add to panel..
[09:43] <vishaltelangre> huyngochoang1, add to panel > main menu
[09:43] <Gothicsatan> that ^
[09:43] <FireCrotch> irvken: Try putting at least the username into the SFTP url, like this<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:43] <garylieberman> It asked me for my login. I entered my login, and it encountered some sort of error
[09:44] <Gothicsatan> irvken: if it's an FTPES, i've noticed Konquerer dont like to accept the certificates, filezilla will however
[09:44] <vishaltelangre> garylieberman, login: <ur username> | password: <ur passwd>
[09:44] <garylieberman> now it's repeating the same script over and over, consisting of but not limited to 'failed command: READ DMA' and 'error: {UNC}
[09:44] <garylieberman> It's not giving me that option. It's just telling me error, over and over again.
[09:45] <garylieberman> After I entered my username.
[09:45] <SailorReality> FireCrotch: well i burned it to the DVD and then I went to my drive and cicked on it and it was empty
[09:45] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: sounds like a Hard Drive issue
[09:45] <vishaltelangre> garylieberman, Oh...!
[09:45] <garylieberman> I used this same hard drive to run Windows earlier today
[09:45] <FireCrotch> SailorReality: What program are you using to burn the disc?
[09:45] <garylieberman> I just now formatted it.
[09:46] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: my hard drive has bad sectors, i had to format over and over again to find the bad ones, then format around them to make it work.. if it's a bad hard drive..
[09:46] <vishaltelangre> SailorReality, I think you forgotten to write your data to DVD! lol! :P
[09:47] <SailorReality> Im using NAruto
[09:47] <SailorReality> i mean Nero
[09:47] <vishaltelangre> SailorReality, use brasero to create images and write them to CD/DVD..
[09:47] <SailorReality> vishalelagre: i clicked burn data to DVD and it went through the proces
[09:47] <antu> wow
[09:47] <vishaltelangre> SailorReality, nero? on ubuntu or windows?
[09:47] <garylieberman> How do you locate a bad sector and format around them?
[09:47] <SailorReality> windows
[09:48] <vishaltelangre> SailorReality, .iso image?
[09:48] <SailorReality> yea
[09:48] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: mostly guess and check, if it freezes and messes up, ur not far enough
[09:49] <eorland> oh
[09:49] <garylieberman> I was able to enter my username and password successfully before.
[09:49] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: i had to format my 500gig drive from the end, and leave the first 100gigs empty/unformatted for it to work
[09:49] <FireCrotch> SailorReality: I have had that problem before (although I was burning from within Ubuntu).  It's most likely cheap, crappy discs.
[09:50] <vishaltelangre> SailorReality, possibly you check: write image to disc > record or write | I'm having very less knowledge in nero handling, sorry! :(
[09:50] <SailorReality> ok thanks
[09:50] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: but that was me, and my case.. it may not be like that for u.. twas only a suggestion.. if u know that your hard drive has sustained dmg... then u have to go with it and do what u can
[09:50] <garylieberman> well, is there anything else I can try?
[09:51] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: you can try to format using either the first or last half of the drive, and go from there..
[09:51] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: trial and error
[09:51] <kraut> moin
[09:52] <garylieberman> are you sure it's a hard drive problem?
[09:52] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: DRM error sounds Hard Drive to me..
[09:52] <garylieberman> I had this same problem on my current laptop when I tried installing Ubuntu alongside Windows.
[09:52] <beejeebus> mysql-server package on lucid seems to be borked?
[09:52] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: u can also google the 'Ultimate boot CD' and run tests to see where ur system is failing
[09:53] <FireCrotch> beejeebus: what's "borked" about it?
[09:53] <garylieberman> It doesn't say DRM error
[09:53] <garylieberman> it says failed command: read DMA
[09:53] <beejeebus> doesn't start
[09:53] <LuciusMare> Hi, i've got a fresh install of 10.04, but firefox just flashes and segfaults - any ideas?
[09:53] <beejeebus> sorry, gathering more useful info now
[09:53] <Gothicsatan> Luciusmare: u need to update
[09:54] <beejeebus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/+bug/551130
[09:55] <Gothicsatan> Luciusmare: might need to uninstall the current firefox version, and use a package manager to re-install latest version
[09:55] <nucc1> is Wine able to access usb devices?
[09:55] <beejeebus> http://pastebin.com/NRvWwnwj
[09:55] <Gothicsatan> nucc1: u don't need wine for that
[09:55] <beejeebus> the upgrade process is stuck at that point
[09:55] <donaldkelly> Hallo there. I recently installed 10.04LTS on my MacBook Pro, however the issue I'm having is getting WiFi to work, I've tried manually extracting files from the Broadcom B43 driver, and copying them to /lib/firmware, but I still have no luck in getting it working.
[09:56] <Gothicsatan> donny?
[09:56] <LuciusMare> Gothicsatan: i'll try that, thanks
[09:57] <beejeebus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/+bug/551097
[09:57] <Gothicsatan> donaldelly: are there any 'hot keys' that enable the wifi? or motherboard settings?
[09:59] <donaldkelly> Gothicsatan: There aren't any 'hotkeys' to enable/disable the radio, I'm not sure about motherboard settings, seeing with a Mac you don't get much control over that
[09:59] <beejeebus> awesome, i'm going to have to kill -9 :-(
[09:59] <garylieberman> Okay, I tried the earlier suggestion that included 'killall gnome-panel'
[09:59] <garylieberman> I got the response 'gnome-panel: no process found'
[10:00] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: yeah, i'm not very 'up to par' with mac's but i had issues with my gateway, it's got a hot key that i had to fix for the onboard to work.. are u running multiple network adapters?
[10:00] <Sandking> hi
[10:00] <Sandking> does anyone know a free service for tomboy notes sync?
[10:01] <donaldkelly> Gothicsatan: I had a pc with a hotkey for it, so I'm aware what of meant, I'm not running any other network interfaces besides the broadcom wifi chip, and the standard ethernet connection. When I boot from my DVD, it shows the broadcom driver, with fwcutter, but if I try and activate it, It fails.
[10:01] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: what version of Ubuntu?
[10:02] <popey> Sandking: uhm, Ubuntu one?
[10:02] <donaldkelly> Gothicsatan: I'm running 10.04LTS, off a DVD I was sent through the mail.
[10:02] <popey> Sandking: I sync my tomboy notes on Windows, OSX and Ubuntu to Ubuntu One.
[10:02] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: so ur running a live dvd or instal?
[10:03] <inertial> how do i edit the shortcuts in ubuntu netbook edition?
[10:03] <Sandking> popey: i saw that i can do that with dropbox, but i'll check ubuntu one
[10:03] <inertial> ie if i need to add some command line args to them
[10:03] <garylieberman> Okay, I tried everything suggested here. I still have no panel, no nothing. Just a mouse and a purple screen. Help?
[10:03] <popey> Sandking: you can't sync notes in the same way with dropbox
[10:03] <donaldkelly> Gothicsatan: I have an actual install on a second partition.
[10:03] <popey> Sandking: tomboy uses the snowy server protocol developed by the tomboy people, dropbox does not
[10:03] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: sounds like X isn't even starting
[10:04] <garylieberman> what does that mean?
[10:04] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: hmm
[10:04] <Sandking> popey: http://techie-buzz.com/how-to/synchronizing-tomboy-with-dropbox.html
[10:04] <Sandking> it seems like it works
[10:04] <popey> Sandking: yup, that's just file syncing, not recommended by the tomboy developers
[10:04] <popey> Sandking: it does, I have used it, but it goes horribly wrong in some situations
[10:05] <popey> Sandking: especially when a note is edited in two places
[10:05] <Sandking> popey: thanks for pointing that out
[10:05] <popey> Sandking: np
[10:05] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: what happens when u type into a terminal 'ifconfig'
[10:05] <inertial> anyone know how to edit the command line of desktop shortcuts in ubuntu netbook edition??
[10:06] <Sandking> popey: can i use ubuntu one on windows machine?
[10:06] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: iwconfig*
[10:06] <popey> Sandking: for syncing tomboy notes, yes
[10:06] <popey> Sandking: i sync my tomboy notes on windows, osx and ubuntu
[10:06] <donaldkelly> Gothicsatan: I can dual boot into my install and find out. :p
[10:07] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: need to see if linux even see's ur network adapter\
[10:07] <Sandking> popey: i'm looking at this ubuntu one and to be honest aside 2 gb of sync memory and tomboy notes - is there anything worth looking at?
[10:07] <popey> Sandking: it's music store
[10:07] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: iwconfig pulls up the wireless connections, if they are connected.. and whatnot
[10:07] <donaldkelly> Gothicsatan: I'll boot in and see what it says and report back. back in 5.
[10:07] <popey> Sandking: they're adding features with each release of Ubuntu.
[10:07] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: k
[10:08] <Sandking> popey: it looks like it has a lot of potential when in sync with os
[10:09] <garylieberman> I just restart for the 4th time. Still no panel or anything. I tried all advice here.
[10:09] <BiggFREE> Hi
[10:09] <Sandking> popey: is there some address book / web pages marking there by any chance? :]
[10:09] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: longshot, but hit 'ALT+F2' and type in "gnome-panel"
[10:10] <guzu> hello all
[10:10] <garylieberman> I'm guessing you mean ctrl alt F2?
[10:10] <guzu> can ubuntu scan from canon imagerunner 2018 over network?
[10:10] <Gothicsatan> no
[10:10] <Gothicsatan> alt+f2
[10:10] <Gothicsatan> should pull up the 'run' command
[10:10] <llutz> guzu: does xsane support that scanner? if "yes", yes
[10:11] <donaldkelly> Gothicsatan: lo, eth0 and pan0 all return "no wireless extensions"
[10:11] <garylieberman> Alt F2 does nothing.
[10:11] <X-Sleepy-X> is it adviced to have ufw running?
[10:12] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: then it's something with the macbook hardware.. might wanna hit google for a bit, see what u pull up.. search for "Ubuntu +Macbook (ur network driver)
[10:12] <tPl0ch> Where do I find sambashares by default
[10:12] <tPl0ch> ?
[10:12] <donaldkelly> Gothicsatan: i'll try google and then the Apple sub-forum in the ubuntu forums.
[10:12] <tPl0ch> I mounted a smb share via the file browser
[10:12] <tPl0ch> but I can't find it using the shell
[10:12] <Gothicsatan> garylieberman: i'm lost, sorry :/
[10:13] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: sorry couldn't be much more help :/
[10:13] <guzu> llutz: i don't "see" the scanner in scanimage -L
[10:14] <Gothicsatan> donaldkelly: but that's not to say someone else in this chat can't help ya.. never give up. :)
[10:14] <garylieberman> Why never give up exactly? Windows is a much easier OS and there are far fewer errors.
[10:15] <llutz> garylieberman: why don't you use it then?
[10:15] <bz>
[10:15] <garylieberman> I wanted to give Ubuntu a try, I heard a lot of good things about it.
[10:15] <bz>
[10:15] <Gothicsatan> i run linux cause i like it.. if i wanted 'easy mode' i'd spend 300 bucks on software that's "sorta good"
[10:15] <Gothicsatan> ubuntu is awesome, community is nice, and support isn't lacking.
[10:15] <Gothicsatan> and is always improving
[10:16] <garylieberman> well, no offense but support seems to lack here
[10:16] <bz> tfe                                  fgfywetu86iotyy
[10:16] <garylieberman> I presented a problem and got shrugging shoulders.
[10:16] <Gothicsatan> for your problem.. with what we have to go off of..
[10:16] <SirMoo> You're asking for support at 4am in central USA
[10:16] <donaldkelly> Gothicsatan: http://www.backports.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401290&page=2 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/395630 seems to be the most likely fix. i'm going to hope it works. hah
[10:17] <SirMoo> Meaning you'll get support from a specific portion of the worl.d.
[10:17] <Gothicsatan> we don't have exact probs.. to me, sound like ur X isn't even booting.. and i know u don't wanna hear this.. but maybe u got a bad burn of the disc
[10:17] <llutz> garylieberman: you realize that all guys helping here are volunteers?
[10:17] <guzu> garylieberman: history teaches us that you can't have both have freedom and easy in the same time
[10:17] <guzu> garylieberman: what is your problem
[10:17] <Gothicsatan> highfive to llutz; guzu
[10:17] <garylieberman> I'm not accusing anyone of anything here. I was simply pointing out a flaw in his argument. He said support isn't lacking, I found it lacking.
[10:17] <atjehcyber> humf
[10:17] <atjehcyber> hallow
[10:18] <garylieberman> I don't have anything against Ubuntu except for the fact that it won't work.
[10:18] <Gothicsatan> well, ur in an IRC, with live ppl
[10:18] <donaldkelly> brb!
[10:18] <Gothicsatan> get that with windows?
[10:18] <Gothicsatan> and like above said, we're volenteering
[10:18] <Gothicsatan> trying to just help
[10:18] <garylieberman> Well, with windows I enter the problem into Chrome and I get an immediate answer with exactly what I need to do. And it always works.
[10:19] <garylieberman> I don't mean to offend anyone here. I'm very gratious for your help.
[10:19] <dariusz> siema
[10:19] <dariusz> :::::)
[10:19] <dariusz> what
[10:19] <dariusz> hello
[10:19] <Gothicsatan> none taken, but u have to remember, none of us get paid to do this, we're just here to help those with less knowledge
[10:19] <Gothicsatan> and help inform
[10:19] <Gothicsatan> best we can*
[10:20] <garylieberman> Yes, and I admire that. It's one of the reasons I wanted to try Linux in the first place.
[10:20] <garylieberman> I'll try this again tomorrow at a better time. Thanks for your help.
[10:20] <Gothicsatan> and linux is mostly built around your computer, so if there's something wrong with your computer, it might not always be the same workaround
[10:20] <atjehcyber> hai all
[10:20] <SirMoo> Try a time when europe and the US are both on...
[10:21] <atjehcyber> Gothicsatan, what up...
[10:21] <FireCrotch> garylieberman: I scrolled up and saw your problem. Maybe I can help.
[10:21] <atjehcyber> Gary, ...
[10:21] <qk> what??
[10:21] <atjehcyber> .
[10:21] <Gothicsatan> atjehcyber: hi?
[10:21] <atjehcyber> nice...
[10:22] <atjehcyber> am new used ubuntu
[10:22] <Gothicsatan> i think he logged
[10:22] <atjehcyber> can you help me Gothicsatan
[10:22] <Gothicsatan> atjehcyber: maybe.. maybe not.. what's up?
[10:22] <FireCrotch> Oh, wonderful... I try to help the poor guy and he leaves. :(
[10:22] <Sandking> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/828706/AAA.JPG great - looks like ubuntu doesn't have answer for this one :]
[10:22] <Gothicsatan> ya know :/
[10:22] <atjehcyber> am inters with backtrack tool, can i install it on ubuntu,
[10:22] <atjehcyber> can i get a deb. ?
[10:23] <llutz> atjehcyber: what tool? most are in the repos
[10:23] <Gothicsatan> u want the wep testing stuff?
[10:23] <Gothicsatan> atjehcyber: google aircrack-nt
[10:23] <Gothicsatan> aircrack-ng
[10:23] <llutz> ng
[10:23] <Gothicsatan> that's what u want
[10:24] <Gothicsatan> they only support hardy ubuntu.. but i have it on lucid, and it works
[10:24] <Sam_Fisher> Poor garyL he will delete Ubuntu and turn back to the dark side
[10:24] <Gothicsatan> his loss
[10:24] <Sam_Fisher> We lost another
[10:24] <llutz> Sam_Fisher: if it works for him, fine
[10:24] <Gothicsatan> sooner or later he'll learn
[10:25] <Gothicsatan> agreed. ^^
[10:25] <FireCrotch> Sam_Fisher: He said he would be back later, fortunately.
[10:25] <Sam_Fisher> Gothicsatan, Hope he comes back
[10:25] <Gothicsatan> Sam_Fisher: Ditto
[10:25] <FireCrotch> It seems that he has another computer he can use in the meantime
[10:25] <greenjon> He'll be less frustrated if he does come back :)
[10:25] <Gothicsatan> yeah.. a phailbox
[10:25] <Gothicsatan> i mean.. windows
[10:26] <Sam_Fisher> I feel for him I just did a reinstall of Lucid after how long since it came out? I was never happy with the Upgrade method and won't do it again
[10:26] <Gothicsatan> i never upgrade, i always fresh install
[10:26] <Gothicsatan> NAT ftwq
[10:26] <Gothicsatan> -q
[10:26] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: I know what you mean...
[10:27] <Galerien> btw, how many partition can you have inside an extended one?
[10:27] <FireCrotch> I actually just finished installing Ubuntu Studio today to replace Kubuntu (which had been upgraded to 10.04)
[10:28] <Gothicsatan> i started with Kubuntu Lucid, and had alot of probs, went to Ubuntu Lucid and all was great
[10:28] <Sam_Fisher> The biggest thing I disliked was it had all my mistakes and attempts still there with the nice new 10.04.
[10:28] <FireCrotch> Galerien: That's a good question... one that I don't have an answer for
[10:28] <llutz> Galerien: there was a restriction to 15 (63 on IDE) partitions, not sure if it still is
[10:29] <guzu> Galerien: during rh9 days, 11. now should be more
[10:29] <Sam_Fisher> hey that sneaky X X guy is changing his name! to hide. LOL
[10:29] <greenjon> Sam_Fisher: Exactly. Haven't taken the time to do a fresh install on this netbook, but I did do a fresh on on my desktop. Seems a lot better :)
[10:29] <greenjon> *one on
[10:29] <Sam_Fisher> It was worth a try I like to learn
[10:29] <FireCrotch> Galerien: From what I'm reading, it seems that its only limited by the size of the disk
[10:29] <phretor> hi, is nspluginwrapper the only alternative for running the Adobe Reader Plugin on Firefox?
[10:29] <erUSUL> llutz: Galerien in msdos partitions tables still holds... if you use gpt there are other limits.
[10:29] <greenjon> Same. You never know until you do it too
[10:30] <llutz> erUSUL: i meant msdos-partitions, no idea about gpt
[10:30] <chuzz> anyone know why 'Synaptic Package Manager' won't run? I click System -> Sysnaptic Package Manage  and it asks for a password which I enter correctly, then nothing... :(
[10:30] <Sam_Fisher> I had Nvidia problems and Broadcom and finally the wired part would only work for one minute
[10:31] <Sam_Fisher> chuzz, wrong PW for sure
[10:31] <erUSUL> chuzz: can you launch it fom terminal ? « gksudo synaptic »
[10:31] <FireCrotch> chuzz: try running it from the command line
[10:31] <Galerien> Ok, because I have a 1.5 TB hard drive and i'll have to install windows xp and 7, ubuntu and fedora (we have a complicated family :) ), so that's already 5 partitions, with swap 6....
[10:31] <chuzz> Sam_Fisher: if I type wrong password it tells me
[10:31] <FireCrotch> Galerien: Oh, that'll be no problem. Well, aside from the usual Windows problems
[10:31] <greenjon> Sam_Fisher: Ouch. I've heard Nvidia's a real pain to get working at times. Either it works or it doesn't type stuff. I got lucky and my Nvidia is fine so far
[10:31] <Sam_Fisher> Galerien, have you considered VM for some?
[10:31]  * chuzz suspects he has to logged in as the *first* user added to the system
[10:31] <bricky> hi, does anything extract a .inf from a .exe file?
[10:32] <bricky> =p
[10:32] <FireCrotch> bricky: You can try cabextract
[10:32] <nill> Hello
[10:32] <guzu> try cabextract , zip , rar etc
[10:32] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: I have, and my sister and partents told me something like "no way in hell" ;)
[10:32] <nill> i got a problem
[10:32] <Sam_Fisher> greenjon, It worked fine since April then random things started breaking
[10:32] <pip> There is
[10:32] <Galerien> parents*
[10:33] <bricky> FireCrotch ty
[10:33] <Galerien> FireCrotch: yeah, I know what i'll have to face, don't worry
[10:33] <greenjon> Sam_Fisher: Without you having made any noticeable changes to the system?
[10:33] <Sam_Fisher> Galerien, I know I have to set the systems up here so no one can tell which they are using.
[10:34] <nill> Im using a 3G modem. and still its working as a 2G modem. I cant find selection option  for  3G or 2G. please help me
[10:34] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: like windows xp = windows 7 = linux???
[10:34] <Sam_Fisher> greenjon, well come on! Maybe a few ;-)  I trimmed the list of options at boot up to one.
[10:34] <chuzz> Sam_Fisher: my bad.. you were right. Wrong password. I was thinking it wanted the root password...
[10:34] <pip> Hi, how to transfer files within Empathy ?
[10:34] <greenjon> Sam_Fisher: Haha. Never hurts to add a couple ;P
[10:34] <pip> It seems that function is not available
[10:34] <sburjan> anyone know how can I extrect information from a windows .exe ? my guess is that it's a SFX file actually
[10:34] <greenjon> at times lol
[10:34] <Sam_Fisher> Galerien, I just make sure FF has matching bookmarks and extensions and Photos all point to one folder etc
[10:35] <nill> before we did that. But now i dont remember
[10:35] <mfraz74> how do I make FF come to the front when clicking on a link?
[10:35] <Sam_Fisher> Galerien, have you had that many systems booting?
[10:35] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: I do that too, All my windows and linux folders point to the same onces
[10:36] <Sam_Fisher> Galerien, I had 3 and it was hell! After that mess I went to 3 hard drives 1 system each and it's better
[10:36] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: I've had 3 linux (ubuntu fedora and solaris) and windows 2000
[10:36] <FireCrotch> sburjan: an SFX file is a self-extracting type of archive, I believe. You'll probably have the most success running it with Wine
[10:36] <greenjon> chuzz: Glad it wasn't a huge problem. :)
[10:36] <llutz> Solaris != linux ;)
[10:37] <Guest37485> test
[10:37] <Gothicsatan> test is good?
[10:37] <wildbat> test failed!
[10:37] <Sam_Fisher> Galerien, Are you going to let Grub2 do your booting and how does your family know to choose?
[10:38] <sburjan> FireCrotch : it;'s the office 2010 instlall, and It's only ONE executable file. And I getsome error, and in order to fix that error, I have to unpack the .exe and edit some files
[10:38] <Gothicsatan> sburjan: ur not using open office?
[10:38] <Sam_Fisher> hacking
[10:38] <FireCrotch> sburjan: you may have some success with cabextract then
[10:38] <Sam_Fisher> cracking
[10:38] <Gothicsatan> openoffice ftw
[10:38] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: I just put their names... My parents use xp, sister 7, an my brother use whatever he wants (gaming = 7, something else = fedora)
[10:38] <Galerien> and I'm with ubuntu
[10:39] <Galerien> llutz: yeah ok sorry ;)
[10:39] <Sam_Fisher> Galerien, Grub2 booting?
[10:39] <sburjan> I have to test the plugin of my company with Office 2010
[10:40] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: well, if it can do that for me, yes, if not... I've already configured grub....
[10:40] <Gothicsatan> just save to a default file.. 2010 will open anything prior to it, and openoffice will save into those formats
[10:40] <Sam_Fisher> Galerien, you should tell your parents XP is not supported any more and go to 7 it's faster and safer.
[10:41] <Sam_Fisher> Galerien, get a copy of SuperGrub Hybrib so if (when) your boot gets hosed up you can boot anything you want until you can fix it and it will help you fix it.
[10:41] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: I did, but my faster doesn't care about it as long he has firefox, word 2000 and winamp...
[10:41] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: I have like 5 supergrub cds !
[10:42] <red2kic> Galerien: In the future, decline giving your father Windows support when he need it. Until he upgrade. ;o
[10:42] <Galerien> (i burn one every time I need one because I can't find the other 4...)
[10:43] <Sam_Fisher> Galerien, have you tried Hybrid? I have it in the desktop drive because of some boot error in Win7 that I can't fix yet. It just pops up and says locate any OS? Why yes thank you!
[10:43] <Galerien> red2kic: If I do that he will format and reinstall... he already did when I was in the uk...
[10:43] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: no, didn't...
[10:43] <Sam_Fisher> red2kic, you got the right idea.
[10:43] <Gothicsatan> his loss?
[10:44] <bricky> arg, can I install the driver in wine? lol
[10:44] <bricky> and than do something to make linux recognize it
[10:44] <FireCrotch> bricky: What are you trying to do here? I assume you're trying to get a wireless card driver to work with ndiswrapper?
[10:44] <bricky> i installed the .inf on windows wireless drivers and it said hardware found:no :)
[10:44] <red2kic> Galerien: Meh. If he think he's better off with that OS, let him go. :'(
[10:44] <bricky> ndiswrapper.. yes that rings a bell
[10:45] <atjehcyber> hi
[10:45] <atjehcyber> aef_, what up
[10:45] <atjehcyber> aflynn, what up
[10:45] <atjehcyber> ... nice day
[10:45] <Galerien> red2kic: yeah, and for what he needs, I think he is... you know, it's hard for him to change, 70 yo
[10:45] <FireCrotch> bricky: I suggest using the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:45] <Sam_Fisher> should I enable backports?
[10:45] <atjehcyber> ...
[10:46] <red2kic> Sam_Fisher: You should not have to.
[10:46] <bricky> FireCrotch: that was the page I was looking for ty
[10:46] <atjehcyber> bricky, can i help
[10:46] <atjehcyber> ?
[10:47] <seema_ic> Hello there
[10:47] <stanley_robertso> hi seema_ic
[10:47] <Sam_Fisher> what software do you add after a fresh install for general computing. I grabbed Xchat, Pidgin, wifi radar
[10:47] <Gothicsatan> hiya
[10:47] <atjehcyber> hallo seema_ic
[10:47] <atjehcyber> hiya Gothicsatan
[10:47] <red2kic> ubottu: tell seema_ic about hi
[10:47] <chuzz> Sam_Fisher: weechat!
[10:47] <Sam_Fisher> seema_ic, hola, howdy,
[10:47] <atjehcyber> ...
[10:47] <bricky> atjehcyber: Im not sure, your more than welcome to
[10:47] <red2kic> Sam_Fisher: geany
[10:47] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: wine?
[10:47] <Gothicsatan> atjehcyber: ?
[10:47] <FireCrotch> Sam_Fisher: For general computing, Ubuntu pretty much comes with everything anyone would need. Except flash
[10:48] <stanley_robertso> Any ubuntu developer online ?
[10:48] <stanley_robertso> i mean who contributes to ubuntu development
[10:48] <Gothicsatan> everyone is a developer :)
[10:48] <Gothicsatan> what's up?
[10:48] <atjehcyber> .
[10:48] <seema_ic> I need help installing Yahoo Messenger with webcam and voice chat support. I'm using latest Ubuntu 10.04
[10:48] <atjehcyber> not thin Gothicsatan
[10:49] <Galerien> seema_ic: I guess that pidgin support it
[10:49] <Gothicsatan> seema_ic google it, there are plugins for empathy/pidgeon
[10:49] <Gothicsatan> in the ubuntu software center there is a package for 30 most used plugins
[10:49] <Gothicsatan> that should take care of it
[10:50] <Galerien> Sam_Fisher: google chrome / opera...
[10:52] <seema_ic> I've pidgin and empathy and their plugin..they don't support webcam..I'm specifically looking for Yahoo Messenger to be running with its features..
[10:52] <Gothicsatan> anyone play Anarchy Online?
[10:52] <Gothicsatan> afk googling..
[10:53] <foxmulder881> seema_ic; Y-Messenger runs on Windows, not Linux.
[10:53] <Gothicsatan> which messenger do you use in Ubuntu?
[10:53] <Gothicsatan> Empathy or Pidgeon?
[10:53] <Stijndg> emesene
[10:53] <seema_ic> Pidgin, amsn
[10:53] <seema_ic> empathy
[10:53] <dartt> can anyone recommend gud music player apart from rhythmbox...its sucky
[10:53] <Gothicsatan> xmms
[10:54] <Gothicsatan> afk
[10:54] <seema_ic> some people have manage to run Yahoo Messenger with all its features using Wine
[10:55] <foxmulder881> seema_ic; why bother when you have native clients readily available to you in the repos.
[10:55] <bricky> well I tried to install it and it says it's installed
[10:56] <vlt> Hello. I have some JPEG files with wrong EXIF-Data (date 2054-01-01). When I try to modify the date in f-spot the program crashes. Any idea how to correct the date?
[10:56] <llutz> vlt: use exiv2
[10:56] <Hagge2> Does anyone know how to enable the powerbutton (so I can shutdown my computer cleanly) in Ubuntu 10.04 Server?
[10:56] <seema_ic> Tell me the native one..who can communicate with other yahoo contacts with webcam and voice chat?
[10:56] <vlt> llutz: Thanks
[10:56] <bricky> which is good I did it right at least
[10:57] <foxmulder881> Hagge2; what's wrong with the "halt" command?
[10:57] <Gothicsatan> seema_ic: empathy should support webcam/live call
[10:57] <Gothicsatan> oob
[10:57] <bricky> with command line using ndiswrapper AND with wireless windows driver
[10:57] <atjehcyber> hai... my amarok can't musik
[10:57] <atjehcyber> any budy can help me..
[10:57] <Hagge2> foxmulder881: I have no montior or keyboard attached to the computer/server, and sometimes want to turn it off
[10:57] <atjehcyber> am used ubuntu 10.04
[10:57] <Gothicsatan> yeah.. rythmbox ftw
[10:58] <seema_ic> r u sure? can Empathy connect with other yahoo contacts and do webcam and voice chat?
[10:58] <foxmulder881> Hagge2; putty into it.
[10:58] <greenjon> seema_ic: Maybe try gyachi... http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/howto-linux-ubuntu-gyachi-yahoo.html
[10:58] <bricky> also it told me to do apt-get autoremove, will that help?
[10:58] <Gothicsatan> seema_ic: it might not be empathy, but the drivers needed to run the hardware
[10:59] <Hagge2> foxmulder881: no, I want to use my powerbutton as I used to do before I installed Ubuntu 10.04, someone have disabled the function and I want to know how to enable it again
[10:59] <Gothicsatan> bricky: apt-get autoremove get's rid of un-needed software
[11:00] <foxmulder881> Hagge2; suit yourself. Sorry, but I can't help you with that mate.
[11:00] <seema_ic> Jaunty and Intrepid packages are not there..???
[11:00] <seema_ic> what should I do on this page?
[11:00] <Gothicsatan> hagge2: System>Preferences>Power Management
[11:00] <seema_ic> shud I intall the flashcam?
[11:01] <Gothicsatan> hagge2: general tab
[11:01] <Hagge2> Gothicsatan: I have no X.org installed, it is "Ubuntu 10.04 Server"
[11:01] <MilindMK> Hello All
[11:02] <Gothicsatan> Hagge2: can't help with server, sorry :(
[11:02] <greenjon> seema_ic: Let me look it over
[11:02] <MilindMK> I am facing problem with bluetooth dongle
[11:02] <MilindMK> its not detecting
[11:02] <seema_ic> ok..thanks..I really appreciate you help
[11:02] <greenjon> seema_ic: Not sure if it works in 10.04 anymore
[11:02] <greenjon> seema_ic: Np.
[11:02] <Gothicsatan> MilindMK: who makes the dongle?
[11:03] <MilindMK> lsusb shows following
[11:03] <MilindMK> Bus 006 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[11:03] <seema_ic> Is there any way..as I'm running an Internet Cafe. Without yahoo it is incomplete
[11:03] <Hagge2> Gothicsatan: Some developer have changed the default action (to do nothing) for the serverinstallation, and I waant  to know where to change it back to normal operation
[11:03] <MilindMK> it was working yesterday when i was trying to configure phone remote control
[11:03] <Gothicsatan> Hagge2: i have no experiance with linux serves.. just front end.
[11:03] <MilindMK> but i configured manything but it didn't worked
[11:04] <greenjon> seema_ic: Not gyachi after all. Search google a bit for alternatives
[11:04] <MilindMK> but now bluetooth stopped working too
[11:04] <Gothicsatan> MilindMK: chances are it is still working.. just not showing u
[11:04] <greenjon> and I'll do the same
[11:04] <Hagge2> Gothicsatan: ok, thanks anyway
[11:04] <Gothicsatan> Hagge2: sorry.. best of luck to  u
[11:04] <MilindMK> i have tried to detect it but it didn't
[11:04] <MilindMK> i am not able to pair my system with phone
[11:05] <Gothicsatan> MilindMK: if the device is showing on the bus.. it's there.. the app that ur used to seeing isn't booting up..
[11:05] <MilindMK> Gothicsatan: hmm...any thing i need to doo?
[11:05] <Gothicsatan> MilindMK: System>Preferences>Bluetooth?
[11:06] <MilindMK> it shows all disabled
[11:06] <seema_ic> I came here after lot of googling..I was hoping to find a way out here
[11:07] <MilindMK> dmesg shows following error:
[11:07] <mfraz74> seema_ic: does kopete do webcam with yahoo?
[11:07] <MilindMK> [11:07] <MilindMK> [ 9885.200802] btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb e0ef4900 failed to resubmit (19)
[11:07] <MilindMK> [ 9885.200813] btusb_bulk_complete: hci0 urb e0ef4780 failed to resubmit (19)
[11:07] <MilindMK> [ 9885.201800] btusb_bulk_complete: hci0 urb e0ef4d80 failed to resubmit (19)
[11:07] <FloodBot2> MilindMK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:07] <MilindMK> [ 9885.201946] btusb_send_frame: hci0 urb f34bfa80 submission failed
[11:07] <seema_ic> Nope
[11:07] <Gothicsatan> PASTEBIN!
[11:08] <greenjon> seema_ic: I know what ya mean. Sometimes takes a lot of googling. I may have found an option or two. Just give me a bit to look them over, k?
[11:08] <MilindMK> Gothicsatan: please check http://paste.ubuntu.com/447696/
[11:08] <seema_ic> Great Man..take your time..I'm also looking
[11:08] <MilindMK> for dmesg
[11:09] <Gothicsatan> MilindMK: it reads like the device isn't reading right through the usb.. have u tried different ports?
[11:10] <MilindMK> yes
[11:10] <Gothicsatan> almost 1500 ppl in chat. 10 tops chatting :/
[11:10] <Gothicsatan> and all give same error MilindMK?
[11:11] <MilindMK> yeah
[11:11] <MilindMK> just the code e0ef4900 is different every time
[11:12] <Gothicsatan> man, i'm at a loss, i have a cheap o Bluetooth adapter that just worked when i plugged it in..
[11:12] <Gothicsatan> that code is like it's que in how the information is processed
[11:12] <greenjon> seema_ic: http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/ <---- Try that. It seems like the only option besides kopete, pidgin, and empathy. Best I can do for you without ever trying one for yahoo
[11:12] <Wexi> anyone know how to edit the indicator-session commands?
[11:13] <lieb> Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to fix the laggy flash plugin(nonfree). It doesn't lag in fullscreen but only in windowed mode, it makes browsing youtube or streetfire quite the unpleasant experience, Distro:10.04, cpu:amd3200+,gpu:radeonx850xt (non fglrx)
[11:13] <seema_ic> Thanks Man..I'm looking into it..I just need this issue to be resolved. Yahoo Messenger on Ubuntu is quite a Challenge.
[11:14] <Gothicsatan> lieb: 64 or 32 bit?
[11:14] <lieb> 32 bit
[11:14] <greenjon> seema_ic: Ya, it looks like it's going to be quite the challenge indeed. Just try not to give up!
[11:14] <Gothicsatan> Adobe has a .deb file
[11:14] <lieb> and I did read up a lot on it before coming here
[11:14] <Promethes> anyone experience slow performance of nvidia in Lucid?
[11:14] <Gothicsatan> i had ALOT of probs with flash, and if u have any remnants of any other type of flash in your system.. they will collide and cause problems
[11:15] <greenjon> seema_ic: It seems there were a couple different variations of that client, but the link I gave you is the most recent I could find of the variations. I really hope it works for you
[11:15] <Gothicsatan> Promethes: install ur video driver
[11:15] <Promethes> in mine scrolling in ff/chrome/nautilus/rhythmbox is terribly slow, like 386
[11:15] <lieb> Clean 10.04 install, I did the wordpress checklist and I also have the latest flash plugin, and my video card works superbly on everything else including emulating games with WINE
[11:15] <Ou42> FWIW - i'd still call myself a noob... and i haven't posted to the forums, but i did get around the laptop rebooting instead of shutting down w/ acpi_osi="Linux" in grub
[11:15] <Promethes> Gothicsatan: i have propertiary driver installed, i have GTX 275
[11:16] <MilindMK> Gothicsatan: ohh it just detected.... waiting to detect my phone... fingures crossed
[11:16] <kale> how do i list the files in a package?
[11:16] <llutz> kale: dpkg -L package
[11:16] <lieb> I wish I could install the proprietary drivers in hopes that it would fix it, but I can't remember when flash worked correctly for me, this is why I keep switching back to winbloze
[11:16] <Gothicsatan> Promethes: i heard there were problems with that series cards.. but i could be wrong, dosent Nvidia have a native linux driver on thier site u can use?
[11:17] <Promethes> nvidia performance was way better in 9.10, 9.04, in 10.4 is total crap
[11:17] <Gothicsatan> i'm running ATI.. so kinda at a loss, the last nvidia i had was a 9800 and it ran sweet
[11:18] <greenjon> i have the 8800 and it seems to run okay... *shrug*
[11:18] <lieb> heck even my old geforce4 mx is supported by proprietary drivers
[11:18] <Gothicsatan> i have a 4200 HD Mobility and i game all the time with it, nps (unless it uses my Hard Drive.. that's shot)
[11:18] <HypothesisFrog> does anyone have any clue why the brightness feature on totem doesn't work now I've installed Lucid Lynx? ATI Radeon X1600 video card.
[11:19] <Gothicsatan> ATI has settings in the driver for that
[11:19] <seema_ic> Ok. I've already done this thing..it's complex..don't know what to expect installing PPA?
[11:19] <dbdavid> all latest linux  distros don't work well with atheros wireless card in  ath5k driver.dmesg  keeps saying:no probe response for ap,disconnectioning in few seconds  each connection established
[11:19] <dbdavid> what's wrong?
[11:20] <greenjon> seema:_ic: Hmmm... Gimme a bit
[11:20] <lieb> so I guess i'm screwed since i'm using xorg-video-radeon, sigh, I just thought maybe there was a workaround, and the flash optimization thing won't work
[11:21] <Gothicsatan> i had problems with my video driver.. using the built in Ubuntu installer didn't give me the performance i was expecting..
[11:21] <lieb> It's funny how my whole computer slow down to a crawl when watching 480p/720p but if I download it to my pc it plays great, hell I even watched district 9 in 720p the other day.
[11:21] <Gothicsatan> i had to remove/purge and manually remove remnants of the driver, and install from the download from AMD's sit
[11:21] <Gothicsatan> site to get what i waednt
[11:21] <Gothicsatan> wanted*
[11:21] <lieb>  <Gothicsatan> me neither, I mean it works good, but it could be better
[11:21] <Gothicsatan> (stupid touchpad)
[11:22] <lieb> what ati r u running?
[11:22] <Gothicsatan> lieb: maybe it's not the video driver, but the internet streaming
[11:22] <Gothicsatan> ATI Mobility 4200 HD
[11:22] <monitor110> im trying to add additional ip's to my server..can somebody check (http://pastebin.com/XRQMqihQ) to see if my /etc/resolv.conf is correct?
[11:22] <greenjon> seema_ic: I guess you do have to install that
[11:22] <Promethes> i heard that ati drivers also have many issues on linux
[11:23] <lieb> nah , connection is fine, I can tell it's the flash that ain't using hardware acceleration correctly, like I said in fullscreen it's fluid even the flash controls are more responsive
[11:23] <Gothicsatan> i had ALOT of issues using the one from the "hardware drivers" menu..
[11:23] <seema_ic> Let me go through this once again..quite a learning curve
[11:23] <lieb> in windowed mode, not so much
[11:23] <greenjon> seema_ic: I remember seeing that person's name before and I believe they're the one that manages gyachi
[11:23] <Gothicsatan> once i removed all those, and installed the ,deb packaged from AMD, it ran alot better..
[11:23] <Gothicsatan> not sure why
[11:23] <lieb> everyone else seem to have the opposite problem
[11:23] <kiamo> how do I run a wine program from the command line?  wine [program name]  right?
[11:24] <greenjon> seema_ic: Take your time. I'm trying to help, but I can't be much since I've never used that program before so can't vouch for it
[11:24] <Oyster> kiamo, yep
[11:24] <Promethes> so is there today a graphic card that works well with lunux/ubuntu? In desktop and in opengl 3d?
[11:24] <greenjon> Just seems like it's the only other alternative for you
[11:24] <lieb> Gothicsatan mine doesn't even show up in the hardware drivers menu, from what i've read the x850 isn't supported anymore
[11:24] <Gothicsatan> yes kiamo.. wine <path to exe>
[11:24] <carl0s-> Any idea why the dns resolver seems to be broken? the resolv.conf points to the correct DNS server, but I can't ping or browse to "server.ourdomain.local", yet an "nslookup server.ourdomain.local" works fine. It's as though the system is using a different DNS server to the one in /etc/resolv.conf. I have the same problem on another Lucid system
[11:24] <Gothicsatan> lieb: doh
[11:24] <lieb> the 4200hd IS supported but mine , bleh
[11:25] <lieb> it really sucks, so much for giving a 2nd life to an old pc
[11:25] <daniel_> whats up ppl
[11:25] <carl0s-> oh it's OK I got it. I think it might be appending a bad suffix
[11:25] <daniel_> what is this?
[11:25] <seema_ic> It's new for me also..I wish these big companies like Yahoo can offer some to Linux users also
[11:25] <Gothicsatan> it works, just don't expect much?
[11:25] <erUSUL> monitor110: well seems ok... dunno if auto can have more than one iface specified ...
[11:25] <Gothicsatan> seema_ic: that's too much work for them
[11:26] <daniel_> well they have a thing u can use to have all ur messangers in 1
[11:26] <greenjon> seema:_ic: No kidding. Exactly what Gothicsatan said lol
[11:26] <greenjon> beat me to it
[11:26] <seema_ic> but worth it if you can connect with people sitting on Linux
[11:26] <daniel_> yea
[11:26] <nisus> haloo
[11:26] <sagarsde> hi
[11:26] <Gothicsatan> lol
[11:27] <lieb> I'm not expecting much, but it sucks when everything was working fine in previous versions and now it's not, I mean this is silly I can play 720p flv files , so why not in firefox/opera/chrome/konqueror
[11:27] <carl0s-> No it's definitely broken. "ping server" comes back with "response from server.company.local". "ping server.company.local" fails to find server.company.local
[11:27] <Gothicsatan> u can always downgrade to a prior version
[11:27] <carl0s-> Does the glibc resolver have a bug with .local fqdns ?
[11:27] <lieb> I cant even play 480p, I have to stick to 360p and even then in windowed mode it lags way too much
[11:28] <Gothicsatan> new code + old compter = gonna have probs
[11:28] <lieb> in fullscreen it's smooth as hell, even without buffering the entire video
[11:28] <Gothicsatan> cause it renders differently
[11:28] <lieb> oh for sure, but everything else is fine, and I'm just mad at ati for dropping the card
[11:28] <Gothicsatan> full screen apps take precidence
[11:28] <Gothicsatan> umm
[11:29] <Gothicsatan> dual core proc?
[11:29] <lieb> not even close, lol
[11:29] <monitor110> erUSUL - just saw your msg. thanks. i guess I don't need the additional gateway...im only supposed to specifiy it once
[11:29] <Gothicsatan> lol
[11:29] <Galerien> lieb: witch one?
[11:29] <lieb> it's not even multithreaded
[11:29] <Darkstar> irc.p2p-network.net
[11:29] <lieb> gpu:Radeon X850xt CPU: Amd3200+ 32 bit
[11:29] <lieb> clocked at 2.2ghz
[11:30] <Galerien> lieb: X**** are dropped? arf
[11:30] <lieb> that's what I read, anything below a x1200 or some crap
[11:30] <lieb> I think only the HD series is supported by fglrx now
[11:31] <sagarsde> whois xxx
[11:31] <lieb> THis is making me lean towards a nvidia for my next video card, shrugs
[11:31] <Gothicsatan> i'm stuck between the 2..
[11:32] <Gothicsatan> ati does have support atm.. and it runs my games.. but i've always loved Nvidia
[11:32] <Gothicsatan> so.. eh..
[11:32] <Galerien> lieb: one of my friend modified a x800 with ceramic passive coolers and nearly double it's power (under windows)... that was a nice card
[11:32] <Galerien> Gothicsatan: sometime you can't choose your card...
[11:32] <lieb> Both are good, I've had both , but most of my cards have been ati's, they had their ups and downs
[11:33] <sagarsde> Hi all How to use whois
[11:33] <greenjon> seema_ic: How's that coming along?
[11:33] <lieb> yeah, I like how I can overclock my x850 easily, but I'd need upgraded cooling for sure
[11:33] <Galerien>   /whois sagarsde
[11:33] <sagarsde> thank you Galerien
[11:34] <Galerien> sagarsde: pas de soucis, l'breton
[11:34] <Gothicsatan> no sense in overlocking anymore when the cards are getting cheaper
[11:34] <lieb> On one hand Nvidia has physx, but on the other hand ati has, well, amd's support
[11:34] <Gothicsatan> lol, yeah, and Nvidia has more gaming support (in windows)
[11:35] <sagarsde> I cant understand what u(Galerien) have written
[11:35] <lieb> for sureLet's f**k with everyone and buy matroxes
[11:35] <lieb> we'll crash the gpu market
[11:35] <Gothicsatan> lol
[11:35] <Gothicsatan> yeah, i can see the kiddies sayin that to mommie
[11:35] <lieb> I even had a matrox in my young days, and also a 3dfx
[11:35] <Gothicsatan> :P
[11:35] <Galerien> lieb: and is cheaper and most cards are more powerfull than their "equivalent" in nVidia
[11:36] <seema_ic> still digging..
[11:36] <lieb> Galerien c'est sur!
[11:36] <Galerien> sagarsde: sorry, your whois says "pratchett.freenode.net :Rennes, France", I just guessed you were French
[11:36] <sagarsde> No I am Indian
[11:36] <RiotingPacifist> my network manager won't find any wifi networks and knetwormanager says Network Management is disabled, how can i either fix this or get enough info to make a meaningful bug report
[11:37] <sagarsde> Galerien: No I am from India
[11:37] <duffydack> ah the old matrox complete with destruction derby.. with 'smoke' FX lol
[11:37] <Gothicsatan> RiotingPacifist: type into a terminal "NetworkManager"
[11:37] <lieb> I had a matrox millenium 16 mb or something similar
[11:37] <Gup> What can I try when kill -9 isnt killing?
[11:37] <Gothicsatan> then try
[11:37] <sagarsde> Galerien: /whois ... is not showing anything
[11:38] <clipp_14> i use opendns but i can not go to google ? can someone please help me ?
[11:38] <guzu> sagarsde: leave no space before /whois
[11:38] <greenjon> seema_ic: Alright. I'm sorry if that doesn't work for you. I was having trouble sleeping and so figured I'd hop on here to try and help, but my brain is about ready for bed. I'll try and stay up a little longer to try and help :)
[11:38] <greenjon> 3:38 a.m. here hehe
[11:38] <RiotingPacifist> Gothicsatan: NetworkManager is running, but nm-tool shows no wifi and knetworkmanager says the same thing
[11:39] <Galerien> lieb: but before I upgraded to the 10.04 RC, my ati card was quite good, I could play games like wow with full details, 1440x900 and 40 fps (HD3650) I think it's getting better
[11:39] <Gothicsatan> RiotingPacifist: laptop?
[11:39] <Galerien> lieb: let's keep it english, so that other can understand ;)
[11:39] <RiotingPacifist> yeah dell studio 15 something
[11:39] <sagarsde> guzu: I have typed "/whois guzu"; Am I wrong to type? or where else I have to type?
[11:39] <Mrokii> Is there a way (via a Nautlis-plugin) to add something to the toolbar of each folder-window?
[11:40] <lieb> hey you started it
[11:40] <guzu> sagarsde: no quotes, right?
[11:40] <Galerien> sagarsde: you need to look at "freenode" not "ubuntu"
[11:40] <lieb> why do I always get put in my place for saying 1 sentence
[11:40] <sagarsde> guzu: yes that I have used
[11:40] <sagarsde> guzu: I mean I used it coorrectly
[11:40] <guzu> sagarsde: that's strange, /whois sagarsde worked fine for me
[11:40] <Gothicsatan> RiotingPacifist, do you have a network button.. that disable the network adapter?
[11:41] <Gothicsatan> RiotingPacifist, do you have multiple wireless adapters?
[11:41] <red2kic> sagarsde: Look in other tab/tree.
[11:41] <lieb> Galerien this almost makes you wanna switch back to 9.04 or 9.10 eh?
[11:41] <sagarsde> guzu: I am using ubuntu
[11:42] <Gothicsatan> i'd hope so sagarsde lol, ur in a ubuntu irc
[11:42] <Galerien> lieb: no, the problem was that I tried the RC, otherwise it would have worked fine
[11:42] <RiotingPacifist> Gothicsatan: the network adapter is on (im connected using iwconfig now, but when i was trying to use nm i did check, by toggling and checking dmesg (Is there a better way to check)), no just 1 card an intel one (iwlagn)
[11:42] <sagarsde> guzu: Thank u, finaly I get it
[11:42] <lieb> oh yeah? I thought the rc would have been good as it's not a beta
[11:42] <Galerien> lieb: but I need to keep this one because I've got important work and weird apache setttings, and if I lose it i'm dead
[11:42] <guzu> sagarsde: great :)
[11:43] <Gothicsatan> RiotingPacifist, disabling and enabling the network adapter with the built in laptop button is known to cause problems
[11:43] <RiotingPacifist> Gothicsatan: oh and it was working fine till i rebooted this morning and got into a failed hibernate..resume thingy
[11:43] <lieb> Galerien time for backup!, I shouldn't talk, I also should do backups and I never do it
[11:43] <Gothicsatan> RiotingPacifist, might have been a stuck driver.. linux likes to remember what u were doing
[11:43] <seema_ic> Thanks for your efforts..you should sleep..thanks again
[11:43] <lieb> I recently lost a 120gb hard drive that had years worth of electronic music on it including my own vinyl rips
[11:44] <clipp_14> can someone help me please. i can not go with openDNS to google and gmail :(
[11:44] <guzu> quite a loss
[11:44] <lieb> I can still fix it, but I need to find an exact clone of my drive, hell i'm not paying hundreds of dollars for a data recovery service
[11:44] <RiotingPacifist> Gothicsatan: I didn't disable until i'd run into the problems, i reloaded (a few times) it and it's now working using the same driver, i'm pretty confident its something messed up in networkmanager
[11:44] <Gothicsatan> it's only data guzu
[11:44] <greenjon> seema_ic: No need to thank me. Just trying to help where I can even if I'll be learning at the same time as you haha
[11:44] <Gothicsatan> :)
[11:44] <Galerien> lieb: it was good, but graphic stuff is always tricky (and one of my friend did it too and broke his installation, and had an Nvidia)
[11:44] <tibrox> I have lucid and winXP installed.  Each time I reboot from xp my gru breaks and I have to go in with a live disk to fix this.  Is there any permanent fix available?
[11:44] <tibrox> *grub
[11:45] <guzu> Gothicsatan: yes, but ripping vinyl is no asy task, and is certainly time eating
[11:45] <Gothicsatan> guzu very true
[11:45] <lieb> tibrox bad block on hard drive maybe?
[11:45] <SirMoo> Tibrox. I had a similar issue with Vista.
[11:45] <SirMoo> Are you booting using the windows loader or the ubuntu one?
[11:45] <lieb> right where the mbr is
[11:45] <Gothicsatan> RiotingPacifist, with mine, if i hit that button, i have to shutdown, and then it work the way it should
[11:45] <SirMoo> Which one do you select the boot with?
[11:45] <tibrox> lieb, nothing wrong with my disk afaik
[11:46] <Galerien> lieb: yeah well, I have four external hard drives with all important stuff stored in all four of them, plus my phone and a USB key in my parents vault
[11:46] <tibrox> SirMoo, how did you fix it?
[11:46] <lieb> alright, you never know, I also dual boot (lucid and xp) and have no issues
[11:46] <clipp_14>  i can not go with openDNS to google and gmail. please help me!
[11:46] <guzu> Gothicsatan: enable/disable networking is not good?
[11:46] <lieb> Galerien : nice! if I was rich i'd get a tape backup device
[11:46] <tibrox> SirMoo, grub2 loader
[11:46] <SirMoo> I don't remember. When it boots and it asks you which to load Ubuntu or Windows... is it a windows screen or ubuntu boot screen?
[11:46] <RiotingPacifist> Gothicsatan: i rebooted and left it off for a few minutes, and tried 2 different kernels, I don't think it's a problem with the driver
[11:46] <sagarsde> Thank u guys, I have to go
[11:46] <sagarsde> bye
[11:46] <lieb> in the meantime i'll just build myself a raid setup
[11:46] <Gothicsatan> guzu with laptops that have a button to enable/disble the network adapters, is known to cause problems
[11:46] <guzu> bye
[11:47] <SirMoo> Try using the windows boot loader?
[11:47] <seema_ic> yeah..I guess we all need to learn to grow..isn't
[11:47] <skar> hi, i'm running lucid for server x64 and cron isn't starting automtically on boot. anyway to fix it?
[11:47] <Gothicsatan> RiotingPacifist, u can always locate the driver, and re-install it
[11:48] <greenjon> seema_ic: That's the beauty of going from Windows to Ubuntu and just life in general. We need to take the opportunities to learn when given the chance. :P
[11:48] <Gothicsatan> RiotingPacifist, if that's what you think the problem is.. but if u were using that button, that's just bad news. i went through that cause i have 2 wireless network adapters (one for injections, one for monitor)
[11:48] <tibrox> I've had grub2 issues with dual booting windows since karmic :(
[11:49] <SirMoo> ._. I think if you switch from which ever screen lets you select wich you're going to boot too, it should fix the issue.
[11:49] <lieb> I had booting issues with karmic as well, it would take 20-25 seconds just to show the grub menu
[11:49] <lieb> luckily lucid lynx seemed to have fixed that for me
[11:50] <tibrox> lieb, in karmic - grub2 would freeze.  In lucid - i get the error of invalid boot disk
[11:50] <opti> after installing the proprietry nvidia drivers, I cant set my CRT higher than 1024x768
[11:50] <opti> actually, before I installed them even :p
[11:50] <tibrox> SirMoo, I don't even het the grub menu
[11:51] <tibrox> *get
[11:51] <RiotingPacifist> Gothicsatan: I only used the button after the problem started. btw you can usually capture and inject on the same card these days, just use airmon to create a virtual monitor interface tied to the correct freq (i know it works for iwlagn and atheros, not sure about others)
[11:51] <Gothicsatan> opti, have you tried configuring the settings using the driver itself?  maybe ur refresh rate is too high and limits the resoluton
[11:51] <lieb> tibrox : that's bad, I hate to repeat myself but do a thorough hard drive check, sometime you may even be aware that you have a bad drive, happened to me
[11:51] <Gothicsatan> RiotingPacifist, my builtin don't support injection
[11:51] <opti> what, like the nvidia applet for changing the res?
[11:52] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, I have a gpg encrypted text file. Is there any tool that I can use to decrypt the text file into memory, edit it, and save it again encrypted. I could use gpg to decrypt it into plain text, edit that and then encrypt it again, but I am wondering if there is a way to do that on the fly
[11:52] <Gothicsatan> Yes.. lower the refresh rate to 60, and raise the resolution
[11:53] <xylander> #ubuntu.pl
[11:53] <srynkiewicz> hi
[11:53] <Thrm> SmokeyD: use a ramdisk. make sure your swap is encrypted or nonexistent.
[11:53] <RiotingPacifist> SmokeyD: you could extract it to a ramdisk (like /dev/shm, i think), but there may be a tool to do what you want anyway
[11:54] <RiotingPacifist> Thrm: if smokeyD uses a ramdisk he doesn't need to worry about it being swapped out AFAIK only tmpfs gets swapped, ramfs stays in ram
[11:54] <SmokeyD> RiotingPacifist: that is actually a good idea, but I just found a gnupg plugin for vi that lets me transparently edit gpg encrypted files
[11:54] <opti> ok, i think i found the problem, has very generic monitor config in xorg.conf
[11:55] <Thrm> RiotingPacifist: but he'll use an editor on the file, no?
[11:55] <domedagen> xfce self-destructed. If I burn 9.10 to a DVD and install it from there will my files remain intact?
[11:55] <jovaro> I can only start Lucid in failsafeX mode, if I try to boot in the regular way, the computer crashes. What can I do to find the problem?
[11:55] <SmokeyD> Thrm: that indeed is something to worry about
[11:55] <SmokeyD> Thrm: thanks for the tip
[11:55] <Gothicsatan> at 1024x768 with CRT's most drivers like to set the refresh rate to 75.. which is to high for the higher resolutions
[11:55] <RiotingPacifist> Thrm: good point
[11:56] <lieb> You guys must know that, how to access my ext4 partition (with extent) from winbloze, I heard I can virtualize my actual ubuntu OS to make it happen, but how does virtual box SEE the ext4 to begin with
[11:56] <SmokeyD> Thrm: is the performance of an encrypted swapfile noticably worse than an unencrypted one?
[11:56] <Gothicsatan> why on earth would u want to do that?
[11:56] <Gothicsatan> lol
[11:57] <lieb> because it's phun! emphasis on the ph
[11:57] <SmokeyD> Gothicsatan: was that in response to my question?
[11:57] <Gothicsatan> like ph4il
[11:57] <Gothicsatan> lol
[11:57] <lieb> in case I forget files and I absolutely CANNOT boot in ubuntu at the time being
[11:57] <Gothicsatan> SmokeyD no, sorry, was to someone else
[11:57] <lieb> lol
[11:57] <arand> domedagen: If you have a separate /home and choose to use the partition but not format it, it will, otherwise you could use the liveCD to more all your files to a temporary storing place (usb?) of some kind
[11:57] <lieb> pretty much
[11:57] <SmokeyD> :)
[11:57] <SmokeyD> ok
[11:57] <RiotingPacifist> SmokeyD: on small loads, i've never noticed it and when i'm using a lot of swap my computer was slow anyway, so IMHO there is no noticable difference
[11:57] <Gothicsatan> boot a live CD :P
[11:57] <lieb> I like to try stuff, I hate to say it but I need windows
[11:58] <vargadanis> hello all! how can i install a source package in 10.04? apt-get source packagename?
[11:58] <Gothicsatan> naa.. it's like smoking, break urself from the habit and enjoy the good life
[11:58] <RiotingPacifist> lieb: http://ext2read.blogspot.com/2010/04/ext2read-22-released-now-with-lvm2-and.html
[11:58] <lieb> boot from a live cd, but I mean if I want to access my actual ubuntu partition from windows
[11:58] <lieb> ext2read doesnt work with extent on does it?
[11:58] <domedagen> xfce self-destructed. If I burn 9.10 to a DVD and install it from there will my files remain intact?
[11:58] <Gothicsatan> vargadanis u don't install from source, u compile
[11:58] <lieb> I would hate to have to reformat just to run ext2read
[11:59] <vargadanis> Gothicsatan, yeah I got that.. However i want to see the ubuntu source of a package
[11:59] <Gothicsatan> vargadanis, no idea :/
[11:59] <RiotingPacifist> vargadanis: to get the source you run that command and it puts the files into a subdir of your current dir, to build it you need to use build-dep and add a -b to the source command
[12:00] <lieb>  <RiotingPacifist> that's funny, I googled the program like yesterday and saw no mention of ext4 support, I only read on other websites that it worked with the extend disabled
[12:00] <Gothicsatan> domedagen it will format.. u'll lose saved data unless it's backed up
[12:00] <vargadanis> RiotingPacifist, thank you...
[12:00] <domedagen> Gothicsatan: TY
[12:00] <vargadanis> RiotingPacifist, as well I get this error: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[12:00] <vargadanis> RiotingPacifist, does that mean I am missing some configuration?
[12:00] <arand> domedagen: I did answer ↑ ... do you have a separate /home?
[12:01] <Gothicsatan> the file your trying to install vargadanis is looking for dependancies that aren't listed in ur sources list
[12:01] <domedagen> arand: Missed that
[12:01] <Gothicsatan> is what that says*
[12:01] <RiotingPacifist> vargadanis: yes you have to add source URIs to your source list, either use the GUI to enable this or add entries to your /etc/apt/sources that look like deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security multiverse
[12:01] <jovaro> I can only start Lucid in failsafeX mode, booting in the normal mode results in a crash right before the login screen would appear. How can I identify the problem? I figured that it could be a Blank Screen issue as on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen . But since the computer crashes instead of just giving a blank screen, I am not sure...
[12:02] <vargadanis> RiotingPacifist, wow.. ok, for some reason I ignored deb-src thing
[12:02] <RiotingPacifist> vargadanis: all thi is going from manuals i've read, i usually use PPAs or howtos if i really need to build from source
[12:02] <vargadanis> RiotingPacifist, that has solved the problem
[12:02] <Gothicsatan> jovaro it's prolly a video issue
[12:03] <domedagen> arand: Don't have such fancy things. My situation looks like this. I can't log in the normal way, I can't start xfce, I can't log in as SU. Is there a way to repair
[12:03] <jovaro> Gothicsatan, I figures as much, but what to do about it?
[12:03] <vargadanis> RiotingPacifist, well I need a module for PHP that isn't supported and I would like to get it right with the current PHP version
[12:03] <Gothicsatan> u have to boot to terminal, remove-re-install the correct driver
[12:03] <vargadanis> RiotingPacifist, thank you for your help, been very helpful
[12:03] <Gothicsatan> should give u an option
[12:03] <arand> domedagen: Does "recovery mode" in the boot menu help?
[12:04] <RiotingPacifist> vargadanis: np, check-install might be usefull for what you want too
[12:04] <domedagen> There is a recovery mode?
[12:04] <arand> domedagen: (Hold down shift on boot to get the boot menu)
[12:04] <domedagen> Let me try
[12:04] <vargadanis> RiotingPacifist, check-install? ok... I'll google it
[12:05] <Gothicsatan> okay, i need coffee now.. brb
[12:05] <RiotingPacifist> erm checkinstall even :CheckInstall keeps track of all the files created or modified by your installation script ("make install" "make install_modules", "setup", etc), builds a standard binary package and installs it in your system giving you the ability to uninstall it with your distribution's standard package management utilities.
[12:07] <robust> ko hieu ji het
[12:08] <vargadanis> RiotingPacifist, ohh very very nice
[12:08] <robust> help me
[12:08] <lieb>  <robust> what's the question
[12:08] <lieb> we don't speak, whatever that is
[12:09] <machine__> Hello ..
[12:10] <delgan> hi there. I'm having a little trouble starting root in ubuntu. i had a mess with the display settings a while ago and its showing the desktop wallpaper but thats as far as it gets...
[12:10] <delgan> i can log into a normal user
[12:10] <robust> i don't undertand english
[12:10] <domedagen> arand: Recovery mode was not to be found
[12:10] <lieb> robust , well isn't that quite the dilemma, do you speak french?
[12:11] <delgan> is there anyway i can restore the settings. bit of a nub at linux im afraid.
[12:11] <robust> i am vietnamese
[12:11] <Thrm> SmokeyD: one more thing. the file editor could still leak the data to random places. for example, to fix vi: TMPDIR=/ramdisk vi /ramdisk/my.txt
[12:11] <lieb> oh you'se trolling
[12:11] <domedagen> Is there any other distro that uses xubuntu's wireless connection program?
[12:12] <lieb> you're not supposed to log in as root
[12:12] <lieb> if you can log in user mode, thenonly use root for terminal commands
[12:12] <delgan> like i said... bit of newbie.
[12:12] <sllide> how do i convert a bin file to a img file?
[12:12] <lieb> that's fine, it just l;eaves your machine vulnerable
[12:12] <bazhang> robust, /join #ubuntu-vn
[12:12] <delgan> kk
[12:13] <robust> hi
[12:13] <dbdavid> robust,do you play with satellite receiver hacking?
[12:13] <delgan> is there any reason i would need to log into root then?
[12:13] <lieb> I mean it's vulnerable if you log in as root
[12:13] <delgan> i wont fix it if it doesnt matter
[12:13] <bazhang> !ot > dbdavid
[12:13] <lieb> unless you do heavy server stuff, I don't think so, and even then in a console you tend to use "sudo"
[12:13] <bazhang> dbdavid, that is offtopic here
[12:14] <lieb>  dbdavid nice stereotyping
[12:14] <robust> co ai biet tieng viet ko vay
[12:14] <dbdavid> lie,everything can be much different from theory in practice
[12:14] <SmokeyD> Thrm: hmm, that is a good one as well. I think I'll ask the vi people if they have any more suggestions on where data could be leaked
[12:14] <zetheroo> anyone have a clue as to why Lucid will not load on a Thinkpad X31 ?
[12:14] <zfmf> i cant install whois , whats the right command? apt-get install whois?
[12:14] <bazhang> robust, english here ; /join #ubuntu-vn
[12:14] <bazhang> lieb, that is not necessary
[12:15] <dbdavid> log as root never undermined my box though
[12:15] <robust> hinh nhu minh bi lac vao the gioi ubuntu tu khi nao ma ko biet roi
[12:15] <bazhang> zfmf, just /whois in your client
[12:15] <lieb> yeah but if that his only issue, it's pretty much a non-issue no?
[12:15] <nmvictor> i get this message during boot up: [/build/buildd/linux2.6.32/drivers/rtc/htcosys.c : unable to open rtc device], whats up and how do i fix it?
[12:15] <Galerien> there is nearly never any obligation to be root, sudo is ok most of the time
[12:16] <lieb> dbdavid, I know, me too
[12:16] <lieb>  <Galerien> spot on!
[12:16] <bazhang> sudo -i for a root shell if you must
[12:16] <Galerien> I only had to use sudo -i twice, with advanced packages configurations
[12:16] <Galerien> lieb: "spot on" ?
[12:16] <dbdavid> bazhang,why my atheros keeps disconnecting in few seconds after associated with ap?
[12:16] <lieb>  <Galerien> meaning that's where I was getting at
[12:16] <lieb> [07:15] <Galerien> there is nearly never any obligation to be root, sudo is ok most of the time
[12:17] <Galerien> lieb: ok, good then
[12:17] <lieb> :P
[12:17] <lieb> don't worry i'm not here to be a smart ass
[12:17] <delgan> well it's probably my fault. i was messing with the monitor settings cos I used a really old monitor and it couldn't auto detect the settings
[12:17] <Galerien> and what the hell are you doing up this early in canada?
[12:17] <dbdavid> I love root much more than sodu ,su..etc
[12:17] <robust> are you install kde on ubuntu
[12:17] <dbdavid> lol
[12:17] <delgan> so i messed with the xconf file
[12:17] <bazhang> robust, install the package kubuntu-desktop
[12:17] <Galerien> robust: sudo tasksel
[12:17] <lieb> Galerien, slept in yesterday afternoon, and didn't go to bed yet, sigh
[12:18] <robust> ok
[12:18] <robust> what else
[12:18] <Galerien> and then chose kubuntu-desktop,
[12:18] <dbdavid> bazhang,what's wrong with my system?
[12:18] <delgan> it works now though... just can't start root
[12:18] <Galerien> press <spacebar> and then enter
[12:18] <Galerien> reboot, your are done
[12:18] <bazhang> robust, that is it, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:18] <delgan> anyway. Thanks for your help peeps :)
[12:19] <robust> thanks
[12:20] <greenjon> seema_ic: how's that coming along? haven't heard from you in a little while
[12:21] <dbdavid> hey,so many guys left?
[12:21] <vaughan> Hey all. Anybody runing ubuntu on an Aspire One 532H netbook?
[12:21] <dbdavid> vaughan,what's wrong
[12:22] <Guest9893> ive googled and found a bug, but the SD card reader doesnt work... It shows in dmesg when inserting a card, but its not mounted
[12:22] <Guest9893> Wondered if anybody had conquered this one yet
[12:22] <lieb> Well , think it's about time to hit the old dusty trail.
[12:22] <lieb> good night(or day)
[12:22] <Galerien> lieb: I've been at work for 5 hours now, grrr
[12:23] <Galerien> (but good night)
[12:23] <lieb> if only I could FIND work
[12:23] <lieb> damn stupid economy
[12:23] <Gothicsatan> i agree with lieb
[12:23] <Gothicsatan> IF only lol
[12:23] <greenjon> lieb: right there with ya. have a good day (night)
[12:23] <domedagen>  Is there any other distro that uses xubuntu's wireless connection program?
[12:23] <Gulopine> anybody know where's a good place to ask questions about ubuntugis?
[12:23] <Galerien> That's another problem yeah... (but i'm not getting paid, it's an internship :s)
[12:24] <lieb> I mean im willing to work, but I get absolutely no interviews, and the one I was supposed to get last week, the guy tells me to call the next morning, then I call and he tells me he gave the job to someone else
[12:24] <lieb> I was... fuming
[12:24] <Gothicsatan> my payment is helping atm
[12:24]  * lieb says cya!
[12:24] <Galerien> cya
[12:24]  * Gothicsatan waves
[12:25] <jatt> this stupid clock applet keeps freezing. date says it's 13:24 but the clock applet says it is 13:04
[12:25] <jatt> it worked until 13:04 then it freezed
[12:25] <nmvictor> i think i have a security issue, i fire up my iBook, type Linux single at the yaboot prompt then im taken to a menu where i have an option to drop down to root prompt which i do and their i am with access to the entire system. what if i wasnt the owner of this iBook, is their anything i couldnt do with a root access without a password?
[12:25] <djuggler> I'm trying to get railo installed on 8.04 and am following this guide http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_remove_a_plug-in%3F  It mentions putting railo in /usr/local/tomcat/lib/ but tomcat5.5 doesn't have such a directory. Does it really matter?
[12:25] <vargadanis> for a Daemon process, what is the UID and GID?
[12:26] <erUSUL> nmvictor: physical access == all bets are off // (only solution is full disk encryption)
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> nmvictor:  use the password feature of the bootloader so you couldent get into 'single' mode if you want to be extr secure
[12:26] <Galerien> last time one of my friend gave me a clock applet, it was a random() time and date every 20 minutes, he wanted to make that like H2G2...
[12:26] <robust> do you know shell ?
[12:26] <jatt> this clock applet sucks big time
[12:26] <Galerien> robust: where is a shell there is a way
[12:26] <jatt> and it freezes on two different laptops
[12:27] <Galerien> jatt: so don't use it ;)
[12:27] <jatt> alternatives_
[12:27] <Galerien> jatt: did  you tried cairo-dock ?
[12:27] <jatt> no, can be docked in the panel?
[12:27] <sllide> what /dev thing are usb's connected to?
[12:28] <sllide> i think i'm asking it very unclear lol
[12:28] <Galerien> jatt: it's like the apple bottom bar, and they have a good clock applet
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> sllide:  it can depend on the kind of usb device
[12:28] <bobthemilkman> sllide: It depends on what usb device it is. Check dmesg | tail
[12:28] <Gothicsatan> sllide, my usb devices are usually sdb1.. USUALLY, but it may be different
[12:28] <bobthemilkman> sdb1 is the first partition of the second hard drive. it might be a usb device...
[12:29] <Gothicsatan> for me sda1 is my HD
[12:29] <Gothicsatan> sdb1 is the next stoarge device that's not cd
[12:29] <Kauzmik1dr> AWN is real nice too..looks just like apples bar as well
[12:29] <Gothicsatan> for me*
[12:29] <robust> Tell me about shell programming management student list
[12:30] <nmvictor> erUSUL: Dr_Willis i know i have that option of disk encryption which i regret having avoided and as for the bootloader password im gonna look into that, but why have that anyway.cant something be done about it.if i had a friend who knows all about linux commands but is strongly attached to windows, how will he ever believe that Linux is secure if he ever stumbled on that, i even thought it was restricted to system access..like just administration yet i
[12:30] <robust> bye .!!! @};-
[12:31] <bobthemilkman> nmvictor: linux has never been secure to physical access...
[12:31] <Gothicsatan> if ur that worried about ppl loggin into ur comp, pw protect the bios
[12:31] <bobthemilkman> Full disk encryption is the only way to do so.
[12:31] <bobthemilkman> Gothicsatan: BIOSes can be flashed.
[12:31] <Galerien> bobthemilkman: no software system has and will ever be...
[12:31] <erUSUL> nmvictor: this is brought up regularily. once someone has phisical access to a computer nothing works except full disk encryption is a facvt of live. do you think that's different with a windows laptop or a Mac ?
[12:32] <Gothicsatan> bobthemilkman, true, but takes more time
[12:32] <erUSUL> fact of life*
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> nmvictor:  with physical access to a machine - there basically isent much a person cant do. I can do a similer trick with most windows machines
[12:32] <Gothicsatan> bobthemilkman, less likely they will try
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> nmvictor:  every so often the idea to 'default password protect grub' comes up -  its yet another password for people to forget basically so it never gets used,.
[12:32] <bobthemilkman> Gothicsatan: Which, from a security standpoint, is about as good as putting a key under the mat instead of in the keyhole.
[12:32] <Galerien> on windows xp, if you boot has recovery mode, you can enter has an administrator without password
[12:32] <Gothicsatan> bobthemilkman, lol, yeah
[12:32] <Diverdude> How do i install fortran g95 compiler on ubuntu?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> nmvictor:  with a live cd -  even a password protected grub can be bypassed
[12:33] <bobthemilkman> In security, you don't assume that someone won't do something because it's inconvenient. You assume someone won't do something *only* because they can't.
[12:33] <piszczekd> m
[12:34] <Gothicsatan> brb
[12:34] <wildbat> well~ there is no prefect security anyway ~
[12:34] <tefal> Hi, there !
[12:35] <bobthemilkman> wildbat: Says you!
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> Power off. stick machine in a Vault.. bury vault..
[12:35] <Galerien> about security : http://www.journaldugeek.com/files/2010/06/collegehumor.636b9ebe0aff78a197ffca7a04d5f171-540x405.jpg
[12:36] <erUSUL> Diverdude: sudo aptitude install gfortran  ?
[12:36] <tefal> For a few days, I can't print anymore, getting a "/usr/lib/cups/backend/dnssd failed" error, what's this ?
[12:37] <wildbat> Galerien, lol i love this chart
[12:38] <nmvictor> bobthemilkman: @ erUSUL might not be different in windows and mac, i know its worse their @ Dr_Willis , so whats so secure abot the grub password if that can be bypassed, @all >> my question is cant something be don about it? I bet the menu that took me to that promp is a linux based thing, not a computers stuff.so whoever came up with the menu, cant they extend a password prompt to match the sudoers password, atleast that'd be secure to say the least
[12:38] <Galerien> Dr_Willis: do you know how the French army hide their datas? In the walls of their underground bases
[12:39] <Gothicsatan> hiya 1500 ppl
[12:39] <Gothicsatan> Anyone play Anarchy Online?
[12:40] <erUSUL> nmvictor: well with a grub password you need more work ( livecd/supergrubdisk ) if you also lock bios with a password and only permit hd boot then you force the attacker to do more work ( clear cmos memory / reset bios defaults / take out the disk to another computer)
[12:40] <erUSUL> nmvictor: is all a trade off
[12:40] <Galerien> erUSUL: did you know that MSI wants to abandon bios?
[12:41] <erUSUL> Galerien: read about it, efi is still a bios ( modern one but still bios/firmware )
[12:42] <dbdavid> bazhang,could you kindly tell me what's regpair ?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> Still havent seen a  pc other then apples that use EFI.. or do the ARM based ones use efi yet?
[12:42] <dbdavid> what's the disadvantage of bios?
[12:42] <Galerien> erUSUL: it's a firmware, not a bios, and uses C, not assembly
[12:43] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: arm systems use its own thing ( and probablñy each arm system uses something different than the rest)
[12:43] <Galerien> dbdavid: err, some problem with huge hard drives as I recal
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> dbdavid:  its  normal 'bios' system is old old and old.. and been  tweaked/patched/hacked.. and is starting to  be a barrier to new designs.
[12:43] <Galerien> about msi : http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/6/8/exclusive-msi-bios-will-be-dead-three-years/
[12:43] <erUSUL> dbdavid: it is a 30 years old thing full of kludges/workaraunds that can not be extended further ?
[12:45] <aruntomar> is there any documentation on how to configure ubuntu 10.04 for multiseat configuration?
[12:45] <dholbach> Packaging Training Session in 15m in #ubuntu-classroom: Operation Cleansweep and the Patch Reviewers Team!
[12:46] <motaro> hello everybody, need some assistance here with wireless connectivity
[12:47] <erUSUL> !details | motaro
[12:47]  * erUSUL mourns the bot
[12:48] <erUSUL> motaro: give us more details or we will be unable to help. hardware; ubuntu version; specific errors ....
[12:48] <motaro> dmesg shows: b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode5.fw" not found
[12:48] <SlimG> Does network-manager lack support for 802.1Q (VLAN)?
[12:48] <erUSUL> motaro: sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> aruntomar:  I recall seeing a wiki page on that topic
[12:48] <erUSUL> motaro: while connected to internet via wired
[12:48] <erUSUL> motaro: that will install the missing firmware files
[12:48] <ghoulsblade> heya, i want to setup a raid, i made the partitions already, is there a good guide on how to exactly call mkfs.ext4 with options for raid ?
[12:48] <motaro> cool I'll try that
[12:49] <erUSUL> motaro: once installed do « sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43 »
[12:49] <ghoulsblade> (raid5 that is)
[12:49] <wildbat> !raid | ghoulsblade
[12:49] <erUSUL> ghoulsblade: is mdadm to assemble the raid. then you do mkfs in the resulting /dev/md* device
[12:50] <sjltaylor> Has anyone had VimMate working for Ubuntu Lucid? I installed it using gem but when run it says "Module Gtk2 is required"
[12:50] <erUSUL> ghoulsblade: i think that the disks utility has support to aseemble raids graphically
[12:50] <erUSUL> ghoulsblade: System>Admin...>Disk utility
[12:51] <aruntomar> Dr_Willis, the one's i saw is for 9.04
[12:51] <erUSUL> ghoulsblade: never tried it myself so " caveat emptor " :)
[12:51] <ghoulsblade> hmm, i got the raid running already, but had some weird problems, so my guess was i did something wrong during  formatting
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> aruntomar:  i recall some comercial company with tools for that and a free 2 seat version.. thats about all i rember. Ive not looked into it for ages
[12:52] <ghoulsblade> thanks for the pointers, i'll take a look at it
[12:52] <wessel> Is there an XOR operator in openoffice ?
[12:53] <pepper_haze> what happend to ubottu?
[12:53] <nogo> the bot?
[12:53] <pepper_haze> yeah
[12:53] <nogo> should we care?
[12:53] <iceroot> !bot
[12:53] <iceroot> pepper_haze: she is dead at the moment
[12:53] <Galerien> nogo: it's easier to give some link with ubotu
[12:54] <pepper_haze> When is ubottu going to be back up?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Some days it seems 60% of the questions asked.. are allready answered in one or more ubotu Factoids. :)
[12:55] <nogo> and the internet can answer all questions
[12:56] <erUSUL> !cookie
[12:56] <Pici> erUSUL: Please wait a bit for ubottu to sync up. ;)
[12:56] <pepper_haze> !botattack
[12:56] <erUSUL> Pici: i will
[12:57]  * erUSUL cresses fingers behind its back
[12:57] <greenjon> ok 5 a.m. off to bed now. good day all :)
[12:58] <SlimG> Is there a nice way to avoid starting network-manager at boot without removing the packages?
[12:59] <Pici> !test
[13:01] <aruntomar> SlimG, update-rc.d -f network-manager remove
[13:03]  * Dr_Willis wonders if network-manager is ran by upstart now a days,.,.
[13:03] <j0rd> is there a way to see/configure my wifi power settings for my laptop. I have a feeling, it's using "ondemand" performance and it messing up my wifi connections. I want to give it full juice
[13:03] <SlimG> aruntomar: Doesn't seem to be quite good enough -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3389670&postcount=6
[13:04] <j0rd> i'm using intel 4965 agn pci-e card
[13:04] <Dr_Willis>  SlimG  its handled by upstart in 10.04 the update-rc.d command dont work with services launched from /etc/init
[13:04] <qgel> hi, does anyone have an idea why i cant connect to google.com but to its IP?
[13:04] <qgel> i.e. in firefox
[13:04] <j0rd> qgel: because myabe google doesn't want you using the ip?
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> SlimG:  if you want to disable a service ran from /etc/init rename the  /etc/init/whatever.conf file to somthing like /etc/init/whatever.DONTSTART
[13:05] <qgel> no, i CAN connect using the ip, but not the domain
[13:05] <j0rd> qgel: bcause you DNS is not working. set your DNS to <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:05] <indus> qgel, check your dns addresses
[13:05] <nogo> don't use google's dns
[13:05] <qgel> if it wasnt working ping would not give me the right ip, would it?
[13:05] <nogo> you will be redirect to hk
[13:06] <nogo> redirected
[13:06] <nogo> chinese are watching you
[13:06] <juro> hi, I am experiencing problems with (it seems) PulseAudio, whenever I use sound (Skype, Rythmbox, etc), I get error messages regaring ratelimit.c - any help is appreciated!
[13:06] <qgel> indus: im using openDNS ( <IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:07] <nogo> in my case, the google dns is not faster
[13:07] <BigGreenCanoe> good morning, can anyone give a pointer to any upgrade issues from 9.10 to 10.4?  Speciifcally with older wireless cards.
[13:07] <xro_> hi, i have a .bin file and the key. I have to decrypt it... i think that is a simple xor... what can i use to unxor the file?
[13:07] <indus> whats wrong with your isp dns