[16:50] <hmw> Well... I will try asking the Mate people. Thanks!
[16:51] <daftyitsme> soryy dafty
[16:51] <ricard> dvi-d 18+1pin single
[16:53] <leonic> hello i followed this http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download to install the mate desktop
[16:53] <daftykins> leonic: and?
[16:53] <leonic> but i don't know hot to put it a t work
[16:54] <cfhowlett> leonic, log out.  click the ubuntu icon.  choose mate session.  login
[16:54] <daftykins> leonic: log out and on the login screen, click the ubuntu logo and change the session
[16:54] <daftykins> :D
[16:54] <br0wnie> If anyone is experienced with the Grub Recovery problem with dual boot, I have a support thread going that is what I'd call an "emergency." Hopefully someone can help :x
[16:55] <leonic> well thkans  brb
[16:55] <br0wnie> At the very least it'd be good to know someone looked
[16:55] <daftykins> br0wnie: link it then
[16:55] <br0wnie> Okay I wasn't sure if I could just link or if there were rules, but here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2293214&p=13349467#post13349467
[16:56] <daftykins> br0wnie: oh dear you installed 14.10 today?
[16:56] <br0wnie> Uhh last night, then went to bed after it was installed
[16:56] <br0wnie> It took forever to set up and I had to go to sleep after
[16:56] <daftykins> that version has been dead for months
[16:56] <br0wnie> Well I'm glad my school had me install it
[16:57] <br0wnie> RIP
[16:57] <daftykins> what kind of school is that o0
[16:57] <cfhowlett> timeto change schools.
[16:57] <br0wnie> My college. And the real kicker is this course isn't even required for my degree, but I took it so I could still be fulltime
[16:57] <br0wnie> So am I completely fucked..?
[16:57] <fnuw543> hello! i have a problem with setting spf record for my server. i used TXT record "v=spf1 ip4:[myip4] ip6:[ip6] ~all" (yes, i've replaced [myip4/6] with my IPs:), but google still says that those two ips are not permitted... any suggestion?
[16:57] <br0wnie> Like I can't even boot to Windows or anything
[16:58] <daftykins> don't use that language here, first off
[16:58] <br0wnie> Sorry :x
[16:58]  * cfhowlett walks away
[16:58] <daftykins> was it really 7 and then got upgraded to 8? doesn't look EFI
[16:59] <OerHeks> grub is on sdb, what if you set boot to the 2nd hdd?
[16:59] <floogy> Hi, how can I workaround  "unable to install new version of `./var/cache/apache2/mod_disk_cache': No such file or directory
[16:59] <floogy> "
[16:59] <br0wnie> I should have included more details on the thread itself (the Veracrypt forum post has more details). Basically, I had an internal HD that was my OS (Windows 7 x64) and an external HD. Both were encrypted. Then ~ a year ago I got a SSD and installed 8.1 on it recently (from Windows 7).
[17:00] <br0wnie> I think the old internal HD still has Windows 7 on it. But my SSD is what I run my OS on etc
[17:00] <daftykins> ah yeah sdb is the SSD
[17:00] <br0wnie> Hmm so how do I go about changing that? I've tried changing boot orders as I start up but each one I've tried didn't change anything
[17:00] <floogy> I'm not able to check the filesystem of the virtuozzo/openvz vserver. It seems to be corruptet (reiserfs) Also shutdown -Fr will not initialize reiserfsck on reboot.
[17:01] <br0wnie> I changed the boot order using the f11 spam thing. Is there a better way I should be using?
[17:01] <floogy> From within a rescue system the system will be mounted under /repair on /dev/vzfs, but that device isn't existant (due to virtualization)
[17:02] <daftykins> isn't that the one time boot menu?
[17:02] <daftykins> not a boot order chooser...
[17:02] <floogy> So, I think I have to workaround the package system error that blocks the package system at the moment due to this unremovable directory.
[17:03] <br0wnie> Floogy, what do you mean virtualization? And dafty I did the 1 time boot thing, but I also tried the advanced options where it goes into Boot and I can choose like #1 #2 #3 etc
[17:03] <tgm4883> br0wnie: I agree, sounds like a one time boot menu. YOu should be able to go into the BIOS/UEFI and change it
[17:03] <Guest70129> @daftykins sorry dafty its me again i still cant login to my admin
[17:03] <floogy> br0wnie, it's a vserver with an outdated ubuntu installation. The owner did nothing at all for years on it.
[17:04] <TJ-> fnuw543: If you're operating a mail exchanger (SMTP server), you should ensure the reverse-DNS lookup matches the forward lookup of the MX hostname. Also, For SPF, I would use: "v=spf1 a mx ip4:AA.BB.CC.DD ~all" (only add ip4:AA.BB.CC.DD if that is an additional address on top of the MX record)
[17:04] <br0wnie> When I went into the thing that lets me pick the order, it had them named by the product name (i.e Toshiba xxxxxxx and Crucial xxxxx)
[17:04] <daftykins> Guest70129: i'm still waiting for that paste :(
[17:04] <Guest70129> which one i gave you the pastebinit paste
[17:04] <daftykins> br0wnie: yep
[17:04] <daftykins> Guest70129: i've only seen one still, which was wrong.
[17:04] <tgm4883> br0wnie: when you say things like "the thing that lets me pick the order", it makes me think you shouldn't be changing the boot order
[17:05] <Guest70129> then im not sure on how to do this then
[17:05] <daftykins> Guest70129: i'm at the stage of considering you a troll as i don't believe anyone can be this bad at following instructions :)
[17:05] <floogy> Ok, I need someone who knows the dpkg force options, or some other cheating options to work around this issue.
[17:05] <fnuw543> TJ-: i need mail server just for internal mail - messages for linux users, so I don't have mx records.
[17:05] <tgm4883> daftykins: obviously you've never worked support ;)
[17:05] <br0wnie> Well I only changed that stuff around once everything was messed up. So when I restart, should I hit F2 to access the BIOS? Then is there a menu that lets me choose sdb as first boot?
[17:05] <Guest70129> ive been trying to follow your instructions and it said its an empty file home/g4m30v3r1d3
[17:06] <daftykins> tgm4883: lol, sadly i have. you haven't seen how long this one has been going :(
[17:06] <tgm4883> daftykins: true, I haven't
[17:06] <daftykins> Guest70129: you know it needs to be /home/username right?
[17:06] <wileee> br0wnie, I would ask in ##windows but reloading the windows boot to the sda hd the mbr would be my first start, ubuntu does not show all the normal boot info, however this has encryption....etc.
[17:06] <Guest70129> my username is g4m30v3r1d3
[17:06] <daftykins> Guest70129: double check you're typing ls -al (that's two lowercase L's
[17:06] <TJ-> fnuw543: So you want it for outbound only? That is the definition of a spam source, which explains why Google will block it
[17:07] <tgm4883> why would you name.... no, you know what, nevermind
[17:07] <TJ-> fnuw543: you should relay your outgoing email through your domain's mail server, or your ISPd
[17:07] <br0wnie> Dafty said that sdb is the SSD (which has Windows and Ubuntu on it). Wileee you said to boot to the sda hd? Why is that?
[17:07] <floogy> Maybe I can mount and bind a ramdisk on that folder, to mask/cover that insane folder to get apt-get happy with it, don't know...
[17:07] <daftykins> tgm4883: save yourself! 8D
[17:07] <ricard> then I do leave hdmi cable dvi-d or I restart the vga cable?
[17:07] <br0wnie> Oh man, it really seems like I messed up
[17:07] <daftykins> br0wnie: i'd disconnect the two mechanical 2TBs and see what boots :)
[17:08] <daftykins> because your setup is quite frankly nuts.
[17:08] <floogy> Ok, I'll try that tomorrow
[17:08] <daftykins> encryption to me = lol
[17:08] <yaraju> Hi all! Is this a good place to ask an Ubuntu keyboard layout question?
[17:08] <daftykins> yaraju: yep
[17:08] <linuxgecko> br0wnie:  those are always the lessons you learn best :)  "oh man, i'm never doing THAT again!" :)
[17:08] <tgm4883> TJ-: Whats the original issue, google doesn't block that sort of thing in my experience
[17:09] <yaraju> daftykins: Thanks! When i try layouts besides US, I see 4 letters on each key. I know the left too, are press normally, and press with shift.... what about the right two?
[17:09] <wileee> br0wnie, I would start with hd with the OS having it's boot in the mbr is all.
[17:09] <yaraju> left two, are*
[17:09] <daftykins> someone else better field that one as i know nothing about layouts :)
[17:09] <br0wnie> Dafty, yeah basically it happened from being new to everything. Like I should have wiped out the internal HD so it didnt have an OS on it as well... the encryption and everything was fine until Ubuntu was installed :(
[17:10] <linuxgecko> i didn't recall someone responding directly. what shoudl i apt-get to get a full gui on my server?
[17:10] <fnuw543> TJ-: i have VPS and I wouldn't like to use other services to send mail... what would be the best way to do what I want - just to send mail from server which would be accepted?
[17:10] <br0wnie> I'll disconnect the HD, hopefully something good happens
[17:10] <daftykins> linuxgecko: for which DE?
[17:10] <yaraju> Aah, alright. Thanks daftykins!
[17:10] <br0wnie> I'll hopefully be back soon
[17:10]  * yaraju waits for someone with knowledge with non-US keyboard layouts to show up
[17:10]  * daftykins pats UK layout
[17:10] <linuxgecko> daftykins: i generally like KDE< but i've seen it look like crap on ubuntu before. probably gnome/unity, much as i hate them.
[17:11] <stukandhatingit> i have been typing it just like that im getting to the point of just chucking this os and going back to win 7
[17:11] <yaraju> In specific, I've been trying Swedish, and Indian layouts
[17:11] <tgm4883> fnuw543: when you say it says they aren't permitted, can you pastebin the actual error?
[17:12] <daftykins> linuxgecko: and which version did you install?
[17:12] <yaraju> daftykins: I guess I should have said non-English layouts, and not just non-US layout. :)
[17:12] <daftykins> yaraju: ;)
[17:13] <daftykins> linuxgecko: just "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" would sort you out then for unity
[17:13] <stukandhatingit> ok so my complete problem is that i can only login to my guest acc because my admin acc is stuck in a loop i type my pass and its looped right back to the login
[17:13] <daftykins> stukandhatingit: ok, lets start again...
[17:13] <linuxgecko> daftykins:  15.04 server.  ubuntu-desktop it is..
[17:13] <mcsteve> yaraju: at a guess, I'd say the other two characters on the key are with Alt and maybe Alt+Shift. Could be left/right Alt, specifically. But I'm afraid I've never tried it
[17:14] <fnuw543> tgm4883: http://pastebin.com/HwYpDqXE
[17:14] <tgm4883> stukandhatingit: ok, in the guest account you should be able to open a terminal and su to your admin account. My guess is something crashing
[17:14] <daftykins> stukandhatingit: on TTY1, do you see "username@something:~#" ? (exactly)
[17:14] <br0wnie_> Hey so I hit shutdown, it did the thing where it says "Remove media from tray and close it then press enter." I did that, and rebooted my computer and it went straight to Windows 8.1. There was no boot menu for Ubuntu/Windows.
[17:14] <stukandhatingit> ok first off i want to say i am new to this and i do appreciate the help you are trying to give me
[17:14] <br0wnie_> This is a start, at least lol
[17:14] <daftykins> tgm4883: i'd been trying to get a pastebin of ~ to check for anything owned by root btw
[17:14] <br0wnie_> Internal HD still can't be decrypted.
[17:14] <br0wnie_> But that is ok for now
[17:14] <yaraju> mcsteve: I tried Alt, and Alt+Shift but it didn't work. :( I was wondering if there's any way to check the settings to select/choose the key, since it may not even be set yet
[17:14] <tomodachi> grub-mkconfig gives me cannot find a grub drive for /dev/sdb1  , any suggestions?
[17:15] <br0wnie_> Is there a way for me to completely remove Ubuntu right now? Then hopefully I can install the most recent version instead afterwards.
[17:15] <yaraju> mcsteve: Also, I tried both left and right alt, and also tried super keys.
[17:15] <stukandhatingit> no it says username@username:~$
[17:15] <daftykins> stukandhatingit: that's fine, type this "ls -al | pastebinit"
[17:16] <stukandhatingit> ok one sec brb
[17:16] <tgm4883> fnuw543: ok, and you're not receiving email at your google account then?
[17:16] <tgm4883> fnuw543: or are you just wondering about the error
[17:17] <fnuw543> tgm4883: i am receiving all mail, but just spf is the problem... for example i received some message from yesterday when i set up server (previously i had wrong hostname in my postfix cnf) and rebooted and i looked at headers: google.com: domain of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>designates [my ipv6] as permitted sender
[17:18] <fnuw543> tgm4883: but this is just one message for now; i will try to send another one and look if DNS is maybe updated now
[17:18] <xentity1x> Has anyone tried the dell xps 13 developer edition?
[17:18] <daftykins> xentity1x: #ubuntu-offtopic for more chatty questions
[17:19] <tgm4883> fnuw543: ok, yea it's possible DNS isn't updated. You could query google's DNS servers for your SPF record
[17:19] <hwpplayer1> do you know how to maximize screen resolution in virt manager
[17:19] <xentity1x> daftkins, i thought it was on topic since it ships with ubuntu as default os
[17:19] <br0wnie_> Is there a source for removing Ubuntu? I'll try to follow it :x I know I can Google, but I'm guessing you guys have a 100% verified version
[17:19] <hwpplayer1> i use ubuntu desktop as a vm
[17:19] <daftykins> xentity1x: support questions here, opinions of sold machines - not so much :)
[17:20] <xentity1x> daftykins, okay thanks!
[17:20] <hwpplayer1> i can't create and edit a file
[17:20] <hwpplayer1> for vga settings
[17:20] <mcsteve> yaraju: hmm. Sorry I don't know more. Just some vauge old idea that the right AltGr key is supposed to do stuff in non-US layouts
[17:21] <tgm4883> br0wnie_: how do you repaint a wall?
[17:21] <br0wnie_> Magic?
[17:21] <fnuw543> tgm4883: i think that google have cached my spf entry, because right now I tried to send another mail and there's spf neutral again. will look what's in google's dns servers for my spf entry.
[17:21] <tgm4883> br0wnie_: you paint over the top of the old paint. Similarily, that is how you uninstall an operating system
[17:21] <yaraju> mcsteve: No worries. Thanks for trying! Will try to find a non-English speaker who has Ubuntu.
[17:22] <hwpplayer1> http://tinyurl.com/ngu97n5
[17:22] <br0wnie_> tgm4883 Hmmm but I don't know if I have the partition space for reinstalling it... and somehow there are like 4 extra partitions or something idk its weird
[17:22] <tgm4883> fnuw543: sounds plausible. you could also test one of the online SPF validators. I would have done it already, but you seem keen to keep your domain secret
[17:22] <br0wnie_> Is there a way to get all of the partitions back together so I have more room for Ubuntu again?
[17:23] <daftykins> br0wnie_: your two 2TB mechanical disks, they're solely storage now yes?
[17:23] <ricard> thyaks bay
[17:23] <br0wnie_> daftykins the internal one has a few games on it, but besides that it is storage and such. External is pure storage, no OS on it.
[17:24] <TJ-> br0wnie_: If you install using LVM, you can add multiple existing partitions as Physical Volumes to a single Volume Group, and make use of all the space without needing to move partitions about.
[17:24] <br0wnie_> But I can't access the internal HD because of the encryption (not letting me decrypt for w/e reason)
[17:24] <LonelyDanbo> can someone tell me why my panel shortcut doesn't work, but the command works in the working directory specified if I type it manually?
[17:24] <br0wnie_> And ok TJ- I'll look into that
[17:24] <mcsteve> yaraju: have you tried the localized Ubuntu channels? #ubuntu-se for Swedish, for example
[17:24] <daftykins> br0wnie_: ok so pull all besides the SSD, (disconnect them) then boot up an ubuntu live session of 14.04.3 perhaps, with just the SSD in
[17:24] <yaraju> mcsteve: Awesome idea! Didn't know about them. Will try out! :)
[17:24] <LonelyDanbo> Maybe it has something to do with wine and "env"? env WINEPREFIX=~/.wine_WoW wine Battle.net\ Launcher.exe
[17:25] <guest-8Ao36u> ok so here is the pastebinit url for my problem "http://paste.ubuntu.com/12264667 and i typed it just like ls -al |pastebinit
[17:25] <br0wnie_> daftykins, how do I boot up that version? I only have that install disc that came w/ my book
[17:25] <fnuw543> tgm4883: i tried online spf validators and everywhere i get result as correct. the reason why i don't want to show you my domain is because i don't believe i know everything about servers and stuff, so better to be a little bit more careful, when pasting stuff like that to public conversations ;)
[17:25] <br0wnie_> What is the plan once I have everything removed and boot up to that Ubuntu?
[17:26] <daftykins> br0wnie_: download it and throw it on a flash drive if you have one
[17:26] <daftykins> guest-8Ao36u: nope that's still wrong :(
[17:27] <ariqs> 10:25 < ariqs> I have a wifi dongle that I plug in and then it shows up on iwconfig for a couple seconds, then disappears, then shows up again... etc
[17:27] <ariqs> 10:26 < ariqs> I ran dmesg and I suspect this is the only telling thing: "USB disconnect, device number 21"
[17:27] <ariqs> 10:26 < ariqs> after that it continues, acting like all is fine
[17:27] <ariqs> 10:26 < ariqs> how do I figure out why it's disconnecting?
[17:28] <ariqs> the dongle works fine on my desktop
[17:28] <daftykins> use a different port?
[17:28] <ariqs> tried all the ports, too
[17:28] <guest-8Ao36u> im getting tired of this im doing everything you tell me to do and is there a way that i wont keep getting kicked off guest after i press ctrl+ALT+f7?
[17:29] <daftykins> guest-8Ao36u: tell you what, do "ls /home" and tell me if it shows the username you expect
[17:30] <ariqs> no one has any ideas?
[17:30] <guest-8Ao36u> ok i will try that
[17:30] <br0wnie_> Hey daftykins, I am downloading it now. Do I have to "burn" that .iso to the USB? Or do I literally just leave the file there?
[17:30] <br0wnie_> Typically I've always had to do .iso to USB
[17:31] <daftykins> br0wnie_: use universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com to format the drive and put it on
[17:32] <br0wnie_> Okay, it is my brother's USB since mine is MIA. Will it be able to be turned back to a regular USB after? (I've always been able to do that but wanted to make sure). Should I put his files onto my external HD?
[17:32] <guest-mjXl2l> does not give the username im expecting nor does it give me a username it says root root
[17:34] <daftykins> br0wnie_: yes, might want to copy off whatever is on it in case you get shouted at too :P
[17:35] <SonSteek> good evening all
[17:35] <br0wnie_> lol okay will do
[17:35] <yaraju> mcsteve, daftykins: Alt Gr is the right answer - except I had to press the key twice with Alt Gr pressed down
[17:36] <SonSteek> question: is Steam available on Ubuntu?
[17:36] <mcsteve> yaraju: glad you figured it out! and good to know in case I need to expand my repetoire of multilingual profanities :)
[17:36] <SonSteek> found it Software Centre, but link seems to be broken
[17:37] <OerHeks> SonSteek, enable the partner repo in softwarecenter > sources.
[17:37] <OerHeks> !steam
[17:37] <SonSteek> ty
[17:37] <SonSteek> will do
[17:37] <thiswillkeepchan> ok well dafty no it doesnt give me the username im expecting instesad it says root root
[17:38] <yaraju> mcsteve: Welcome. :) Also, that works for Swedish, but appears to fail for indic scripts. :( Will go hunt for a channel for indic scripts now to figure that out
[17:38] <br0wnie_> daftykins I'm putting the .iso onto the USB now. Seriously thank you for your patience and help so far. Once it is does and I remove the HD's and boot from USB, what do I do next? Do I go to try mode? Or try and install again? I don't know if I have enough room to install
[17:39] <br0wnie_> once it is done*
[17:39] <daftykins> thiswillkeepchan: then it sounds like you don't have an account on there - are you sure you're not typing from a live session? (booted DVD or flash drive)
[17:39] <daftykins> br0wnie_: boot 'try' with just the SSD in yep, then come back here
[17:39] <br0wnie_> kk
[17:39] <thiswillkeepchan> i honestly dont know
[17:40] <thiswillkeepchan> thats y im asking for help
[17:40] <daftykins> thiswillkeepchan: no, you should know whether there's a flash drive or DVD in that you're booted from :)
[17:40] <daftykins> you can't ask us to tell you what's in :D
[17:41] <thiswillkeepchan> oh no im not im booted from ubuntu os right on my laptop and no flashdrive or dvd
[17:43] <daftykins> thiswillkeepchan: ok so "ls /home | pastebinit" lets get a look at that
[17:44] <OerHeks> thiswillkeepchan, guest-8Ao36u , stukandhatingit howcome you all still here ( after supposed change user > root ?)
[17:44] <guest-rGL3Xt> im not booted from a dvd or a flashdrive  now what dafty?
[17:44] <OerHeks> oh next new name ...
[17:47] <tgm4883> someone needs to setup an account on irccloud...
[17:48] <br0wnie> Hey, booted up fine
[17:48] <br0wnie> I'm on the try mode now
[17:48] <guest-rGL3Xt> how do i set up that account on irccloud?
[17:48] <ikonia> guest-rGL3Xt: that is nothing to do with this channel
[17:49] <daftykins> br0wnie: open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[17:49] <guest-rGL3Xt> ok btw this is thiswillkeepchan, guest-8Ao36u , stukandhatingit im on a guest account because im not able to login to my admin because its stuck on a loop
[17:50] <tgm4883> ikonia: to be fair, I didn't mention that he should. But you're right, that question isn't really ubuntu related and.... really points at the level of technical ability for this user
[17:50] <guest-rGL3Xt> so when i go to the tty it logsme out and then i have to log back in
[17:50] <tgm4883> err, did mention
[17:50] <br0wnie> Okay daftykins, should I paste the link here? Or is it info that shouldn't be public?
[17:50] <daftykins> br0wnie: it's fine here
[17:50] <br0wnie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12264980/
[17:51] <daftykins> knowing the size of your Windows partitions is no secret
[17:51] <daftykins> :>
[17:51] <br0wnie> I hadn't looked at the log yet :p
[17:51] <tgm4883> daftykins: always stealing people's bits
[17:51] <br0wnie> Oh nooo  not my bits
[17:51] <daftykins> yep, all of 'em
[17:52] <daftykins> br0wnie: so you could run gparted and delete all the Linux partitions
[17:52] <daftykins> (5,6,7,8)
[17:52] <daftykins> 5 kinda confuses me 'cause it has no FS o0
[17:52] <guest-rGL3Xt> im just trying to get my admin account to let me login then ill be out of your hair
[17:53] <daftykins> guest-rGL3Xt: i'd still like to see "ls /home | pastebinit"
[17:53] <daftykins> guest-rGL3Xt: you may be able to run it from the GUI terminal app
[17:53] <br0wnie> daftykins is that the USB I'm using right now? It is ~8 gigs
[17:53] <br0wnie> I could 100% be wrong though
[17:54] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: I suppose making a new admin account is out of the question?
[17:54] <br0wnie> Wait nvm I see what you mean
[17:54] <br0wnie> The USB is in its own section
[17:54] <guest-rGL3Xt> i could do that if i had help
[17:54] <daftykins> br0wnie: no that's sdb
[17:54] <daftykins> ja
[17:54] <guest-rGL3Xt> because im new to this and im just learning
[17:54] <daftykins> guest-rGL3Xt: had help? what more help than the command do you need?
[17:55] <br0wnie> Yeah. Hmmm idk what it could be?  And if I go and delete all of those partitions you listed, would I be able to reinstall the new version of Ubuntu on 1 partition?
[17:56] <fldka> cma3585 not a 10-9. honky convention, but i'd rather how to dealing when it's Caitlyn Jenner?. 153 left
[17:56] <guest-rGL3Xt> yes
[17:56] <fldka> damn ok. 1187songs dl'd any song ive been unable to find the element. its just these days? i have a swat team. you guys. the tingle on shit. werd. what if we go. vote for mixtapes and country. there we listened to expand its ok. 1187songs dl'd anymore. just look like a flight he like early bluray transit to there it out. meth are just cement. if you. josephneiraa statuatory rape ever had a room
[17:56] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: and you have a terminal open?
[17:56] <fldka> heard was in circuit city and country. there it is, but please dont tell me what kinda music do you in future. great that about 260songs left
[17:57] <br0wnie> Because if I can clean up this mess and still have Ubuntu, that'd be awesome
[17:57] <fldka> damn ok its getting in 2016?
[17:57] <guest-rGL3Xt> i was using the ctrl+alt+f1
[17:57] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: you shouldn't need to do that. Open a terminal in your guest session
[17:57] <daftykins> br0wnie: i'm not 100% what 5 is, might you have had an encrypted partition of 8GB after the Windows C:, as a D: ?
[17:57] <guest-rGL3Xt> ok its open
[17:58] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: ok, what is your admin users name?
[17:58] <guest-rGL3Xt> g4m30v3r1d3
[17:58] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: why is it named so weird?
[17:58] <daftykins> tgm4883: the only thing in /home was apparently 'root' so i don't think there is one - or something is majorly messed up :)
[17:58] <br0wnie> daftykins when I used to have my other HD's plugged in, D: was a "partition" that was encrypted because I guess thats how veracrypt works w/ harddrives. But since that stuff is inplugged, I don't know what could be in D: right now
[17:59] <guest-rGL3Xt> it means gameoveride im sorry  lol
[17:59] <daftykins> br0wnie: ok i don't think it matters - i'd delete all except 1
[18:00] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: no worries, ok do this   "su - g4m30v3r1d3"
[18:00] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: it should prompt for your password
[18:01] <br0wnie> daftykins you said 5,6,7,8 before but never said #2 last time. What about #2? It's 16.2 gb and doesn't have an FS either. Also, what is the command to delete the Linux partitions? You said gpart but I don't know the rest. Once I delete them, will I be able to reinstall fresh Ubuntu?
[18:01] <guest-rGL3Xt> i put in the right pass and it says "guest-rGL3Xt@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$ su - g4m30v3r1d3
[18:01] <guest-rGL3Xt> Password:
[18:01] <guest-rGL3Xt> setgid: Operation not permitted
[18:01] <guest-rGL3Xt> guest-rGL3Xt@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$
[18:01] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: ok, you've got pastebinit installed?
[18:02] <guest-rGL3Xt> i think so is the command sudo apt-get install pastebinit?
[18:02] <daftykins> br0wnie: #2 is an extended partition, it's just like a 'holder' for all the logical drives 5-8
[18:03] <daftykins> guest-rGL3Xt: ooh i know, tell us what "pwd" returns
[18:03] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: yes it is. And do what daftykins asked
[18:03] <guest-rGL3Xt> guest-rGL3Xt@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$ pwd
[18:03] <guest-rGL3Xt> /tmp/guest-rGL3Xt
[18:03] <guest-rGL3Xt> guest-rGL3Xt@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$
[18:03] <br0wnie> daftykins Okay so how do I go about doing this? I'm looking at gparted online, and it says to burn an .iso to a CD. Which I don't have another cd or USB. It also says a package is available, but risks messing with my hard drive/system
[18:04] <daftykins> ah that's only the guest though, nm
[18:04] <daftykins> br0wnie: nah click the dash icon top left (on the vertical sidebar of icons) then type gparted, it'll open a GUI partitioning utility
[18:04] <guest-rGL3Xt> guest-rGL3Xt@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$ sudo
[18:04] <guest-rGL3Xt> sudo: unable to change to root gid: Operation not permitted
[18:04] <guest-rGL3Xt> guest-rGL3Xt@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$ g4m30v3r1d3
[18:04] <guest-rGL3Xt> g4m30v3r1d3: command not found
[18:04] <guest-rGL3Xt> guest-rGL3Xt@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$ su - g4m30v3r1d3
[18:04] <guest-rGL3Xt> Password:
[18:04] <EriC^^> you can't use su from the guest account guest-rGL3Xt
[18:05] <EriC^^> guest-rGL3Xt: you need to use the recovery mode to reset your password
[18:05] <bishops> hello friends, a small detail but bothering to the highest degree and can't really find solutions online: Thunderbird & firefox have the annoying habit of setting my spelling to french (i have french and english installed) and I just wanted to be on english by default. It may be connected to the language support on ubuntu (14.04), anyone has an idea of how to change this?
[18:05] <br0wnie> daftykins so it will be able to delete those partitions? Oh, it must be because I'm running this from my USB right? So it isn't running off the partitions that are being deleted
[18:05] <br0wnie> Neato, what a world
[18:05] <tgm4883> EriC^^: that's a bummer
[18:05] <guest-rGL3Xt> can i just make another admin acc?
[18:05] <guest-rGL3Xt> from guest?
[18:05] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: ok, so it looks like you will need to ctrl+alt+F1 to make the new account
[18:06] <EriC^^> guest-rGL3Xt: nope cause you need privileges for that
[18:06] <guest-rGL3Xt> ok i will write down the instructions then
[18:06] <daftykins> br0wnie: yeah, live sessions are ace
[18:06] <guest-rGL3Xt> damn ok
[18:06] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: so you'll need a few commands, but I'd like to just test making a regular account first then logging in
[18:07] <guest-rGL3Xt> ok
[18:07] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: from the terminal, once logged in do "sudo adduser steve"
[18:07] <tgm4883> it will make you set a password
[18:07] <guest-rGL3Xt> adduser josh ?
[18:07] <br0wnie> daftykins, just to be 100% sure (I have the tool open now). I delete /dev/sda2 right? Because it has sda5, 6, 7, and 8 under it.
[18:07] <tgm4883> guest-rGL3Xt: sure, josh works too ;)
[18:08] <br0wnie> daftykins actually I can't delete sda2 or sda7, they are both locked or something
[18:08] <guest-rGL3Xt> ok brb
[18:08] <daftykins> br0wnie: right click swapoff for the swap one
[18:08] <daftykins> br0wnie: 7 that is
[18:08] <br0wnie> Oooh kk I can delete all of them now
[18:08] <OerHeks> br0wnie, remove the linux partitions first, after that you can remove the extended partition
[18:08] <br0wnie> kk good to know
[18:09] <br0wnie> Once I delete them, will it become free space or something? Will I have to merge it back with the rest of my SSD?
[18:09] <br0wnie> Because I'd like to reinstall ubuntu if it won't mess things up
[18:09] <bromel> #glc.academy
[18:10] <daftykins> br0wnie: it should show as unallocated now
[18:11] <daftykins> br0wnie: you have to hit the green tick to apply the changes (the deletes etc)
[18:11] <br0wnie> daftykins I deleted everything. Yeah I have 15.12 GiB unallocated + 35.84 GiB free space on my SSD
[18:11] <daftykins> br0wnie: can you close and re-open gparted then screenshot with print-screen, then share via imgur.com or similar?
[18:12] <daftykins> alt+print-screen would be even better (active window screenshot only)
[18:13] <Guest63017> ok so that worked i am now logged into josh
[18:14] <Guest63017> how do i make it admin?
[18:14] <Guest63017> im sorry this is taking so long yall
[18:14] <br0wnie> daftykins http://i.imgur.com/C69jfaq.png
[18:14] <tgm4883> Guest63017: sweet. Can you open a terminal and try the su command again "su - adminuser"
[18:15] <Guest63017> josh@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$ su - adminuser
[18:15] <Guest63017> No passwd entry for user 'adminuser'
[18:15] <Guest63017> josh@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$
[18:15] <tgm4883> Guest63017: well yea, I meant the actual username of your admin user
[18:16] <Guest63017> oh lol
[18:16] <Guest63017> oops sorry
[18:17] <Guest63017> josh@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$ su - g4m30v3r1d3
[18:17] <Guest63017> Password:
[18:17] <Guest63017> No directory, logging in with HOME=/
[18:17] <Guest63017> g4m30v3r1d3@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:/$
[18:17] <tgm4883> Guest63017: OK, do "sudo usermod -a -G sudo josh"
[18:17] <ikonia> why is su working without a password
[18:17] <tgm4883> ikonia: it's not?
[18:17] <Guest63017> it doesnt show the password
[18:17] <ikonia> ah, he tpyed tje password
[18:17] <daftykins> br0wnie: looks good, now shutdown - remove the flash drive and check Windows still boots happily before going further
[18:18] <br0wnie> kk brb
[18:18] <Anf> Guten Tag, hätte mal wieder eine kleine frage. Wollte mal gerne wissen. Kann man auf der Ubuntu Hompage irgendwo mal nachschauen, wie es mit Ubuntu und Apple Noteboos aussieht. Wie ist da die Funktionalität, laüft es genau so ab wie mit anderen Herstellern, oder muss man bei Apple und Ubuntu auf manchen Sachen besonders achten?
[18:18] <eraggo> !de |Anf
[18:18] <tgm4883> Guest63017: did you run that usermod command I just posted
[18:19] <Guest63017> g4m30v3r1d3@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:/$ sudo usermod -a -G sudo josh
[18:19] <Guest63017> [sudo] password for g4m30v3r1d3:
[18:19] <Guest63017> g4m30v3r1d3@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:/$
[18:19] <tgm4883> Guest63017: can you also run "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[18:20] <Guest63017> g4m30v3r1d3@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:/$ sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[18:20] <Guest63017> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12265276/
[18:20] <Guest63017> g4m30v3r1d3@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:/$
[18:20] <Anf> Sorry, wrong Channel :) . Thanks ubottu
[18:21] <tgm4883> Guest63017: ok. Just a single drive in this laptop?
[18:21] <Guest63017> yes
[18:21] <br0wnie_> Hey windows booted up fine
[18:21] <tgm4883> Guest63017: ok, logout and then log back in as Josh. You should be an admin now
[18:21] <Guest63017> its a lenovo thinkpad t400s
[18:24] <br0wnie_> daftykins what do I do now? Should I merge that partition w/ my SSD, then make a new one (that is bigger) for Ubuntu?
[18:25] <itsmeagain> i am now the admin ty very much yall
[18:25] <br0wnie_> daftykins I believe all I have to do is "extend volume" for my SSD right? Since the ~15gb is unallocated
[18:26] <tgm4883> itsmeagain: yw. So here is the deal
[18:26] <itsmeagain> im listening
[18:26] <daftykins> br0wnie_: no point regaining the space if you're installing ubuntu beside it still
[18:26] <Gill> Anyone here good with rsyslog?
[18:27] <daftykins> (where it = Windows)
[18:27] <bekks> Gill: Is that a poll?
[18:27] <tgm4883> itsmeagain: somehow your other users home directory is missing. This is a laptop with one drive, so we know the drive isn't bad. You've got a single partition, so we know it's not some weird mounting issue. That leaves either you deleted it, or it was deleted by some program. So, don't do that again
[18:27] <br0wnie_> daftykins yeah but I want to give Ubuntu more room. Am I able to add more to that unallocated space?
[18:27] <Gill> bekks: sorry I am just frustrated figured to see if anyone knows about it before I type out the question
[18:27] <itsmeagain> lol ok ty verymuch
[18:27] <MrSassyPants> did I somehow wreck my installation? http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?753615
[18:27] <tgm4883> itsmeagain: that is why you couldn't login graphically to your other user
[18:27] <tgm4883> itsmeagain: yw
[18:27] <daftykins> br0wnie_: use Windows to resize the C: drive, run diskmgmt.msc and then right click shrink volume
[18:27] <bekks> Gill: So just ask your actual question.
[18:28] <tgm4883> also, itsmeagain looks like it's megan, so I might call you megan now
[18:28] <itsmeagain> can i delete the other user by deluser g4m30v3r1d3?
[18:28] <tgm4883> itsmeagain: yea
[18:28] <br0wnie_> daftykins I'll be able to add the unallocated space to the space that I am shrinking right?
[18:28] <EriC^^> itsmeagain: did you have anything important in your missing home dir?
[18:28] <Gill> OK. I am trying to get SIP phones ot send their syslog to an rsyslog server. This is working but the rsyslog server is not logging the SIP signalling. I know its hitting the server though because I see the info comign in with ngrep. Any ideas?
[18:29] <itsmeagain> ok well my name is josh but oh well you just helped me out so idc what you call me
[18:29] <crucerio> on my acer laptop ubuntu 15.04 frequently looses connection to the built in keyboard, often when I did not update for more than a week...
[18:29] <br0wnie_> daftykins oh boy there is only like 5mb available for shrinking >.> I had this problem for a while last night
[18:29] <daftykins> br0wnie_: think of it as |--|---| -> |-|----|
[18:29]  * tgm4883 sends daftykins a bill for lunch ;)
[18:29] <itsmeagain> only passwords and photos
[18:29] <daftykins> tgm4883: 8D
[18:29] <daftykins> tgm4883: i could give you a packet of crisps
[18:30] <tgm4883> I think I'll head out for a burger, thanks though
[18:30] <daftykins> :)
[18:30] <daftykins> !cookie | tgm4883
[18:30] <nug700> :D got ubuntu 15 to work... must of been a problem with 14
[18:30] <br0wnie_> daftykins so I extended my SSD so that it got that 15gb unallocated. Now I am able to shrink my SSD by that much. Is 15gb enough for ubuntu?
[18:31] <Wug> br0wnie_: 15GB is sufficient for an installation, but doesn't leave much room for adding more software
[18:31] <br0wnie_> daftykins I have ~55gb free space but can only shrink by 15gb sadly
[18:32] <daftykins> br0wnie_: depends what you're going to do with ubuntu really, 3GB is the normal install - plus whatever swap size it creates
[18:32] <Wug> you may have more luck using gparted to resize the partition than you will using windows to do it
[18:32] <Wug> offline methods almost always work better
[18:32] <itsmeagain> ok i will leave now and yall wont have to deal with me til something else breaks lol
[18:32] <itsmeagain> thanks again
[18:32] <br0wnie_> Wug daftykins yeah I'm not sure, the class hasn't really started yet (first assignment is install ubunut and watch a video) so idk if I'll need tons of room
[18:33] <br0wnie_> Wug are you saying boot using the Ubuntu USB, then making a partition from there?
[18:33] <Wug> br0wnie_: the installer uses gparted to manipulate partitions before the install, you should be able to use it to shrink the windows partition
[18:33] <br0wnie_> Ah right I forgot about that part
[18:34] <br0wnie_> Well brb then
[18:34] <crucerio> the laptop keyboard... why does ubuntu(15.04) loose connection to it? Might it be that the config get's damaged or something like that?
[18:34] <daftykins> br0wnie_: i think you'd be better off just running ubuntu under virtualbox atop Windows really ;)
[18:34] <Wug> daftykins: he left
[18:34] <daftykins> ah yes
[18:34] <daftykins> that'll teach me to task switch
[18:35] <Wug> crucerio: im not sure what you mean exactly
[18:35] <daftykins> you really shouldn't have advised that :)
[18:36] <Wug> I was going to tell him to make backups, but he quit before I got it out.
[18:36] <stacks88> whats the best way to take a ubuntu server (14.04), and install / add the GUI components? Basically i want to install desktop features, so that i can use VNC and remote desktop in and access gnome or kde or (it doesnt matter which one, just any would do).. Should I run something like tasksel ? Its beeen awhile since ive used gui, or is there another setup command i should run instead. Just
[18:36] <stacks88> looking for the ideal way
[18:36] <Wug> stacks88: well let me start by saying that vnc is terrible
[18:37] <itsmeagain> SON OF A "josh@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$ deluser g4m30v3r1d3
[18:37] <itsmeagain> /usr/sbin/deluser: Only root may remove a user or group from the system.
[18:37] <itsmeagain> josh@g4m30v3r1d3-ThinkPad-T400s:~$ sudo deluser g4m30v3r1d3
[18:37] <itsmeagain> [sudo] password for josh:
[18:37] <itsmeagain> Removing user `g4m30v3r1d3' ...
[18:37] <itsmeagain> Warning: group `g4m30v3r1d3' has no more members.
[18:37] <daftykins> itsmeagain: don't paste and - that looks normal
[18:37] <Wug> stacks88: I have a lot of luck with just plain old x forwarding
[18:37] <stacks88> Wug: okay, but do you know what is the ideal way to get all the packages installed for gui? I remember awhile back there was tasksel, not sure if thats still the way to do it
[18:38] <crucerio> Wug: well, I installed ubuntu and it worked fine for a week, then the keyboard stopped working when entering the desktop manager... and it only works again when I update the system (using an external keyboard which by the way works fine allways ;)
[18:38] <daftykins> yes tasksel still lists the desktop
[18:38] <mcsteve> stacks88: tasksel should work
[18:38] <Wug> in which case, you can just install whichever gui program you want to use (it will pull in all of the dependencies it needs)
[18:38] <daftykins> but it essentially just does "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[18:38] <itsmeagain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12265446/
[18:38] <stacks88> ah okay cool
[18:38] <daftykins> itsmeagain: just leave it be, it's not doing you any harm
[18:38] <Wug> then just install xming on your windows machines and make sure it's running when you try to start gui programs
[18:38] <Wug> im sure you've done that bit before
[18:39] <itsmeagain> ok
[18:39] <br0wnie> Wug daftykins I just booted from the USB. At the install menu now, do you recommend doing "download updates while installing"?? And the "install this third party software" option?
[18:39] <stacks88> ill check out xming
[18:39] <EriC^^> itsmeagain: type kill -9 3513
[18:39] <Wug> crucerio: no idea. but if it ever works it's probably not a hardware problem
[18:40] <hggdh> itsmeagain: why would you delete the userId you are currently logged in under?
[18:40] <daftykins> br0wnie: just FYI i would not recommend trying to resize the Windows partition further
[18:40] <daftykins> (from the ubuntu installer)
[18:41] <Wug> br0wnie: 15GB is probably fine. if you need more space later you can resize again
[18:41] <br0wnie> daftykins I haven't resized the Windows partition at all. It's still just the main SSD (since I extended it to the 15gb unallocated from earlier).  Just before when there was 15gb unallocated, I couldn't shrink my SSD anymore. So I extended it so that itd get the 15gb unallocated.
[18:42] <br0wnie> So its just 1 partition right now
[18:42] <crucerio> Wug: well, I just found one correspondence, someone had a similar problem in ubuntu 10.04 but his solution too was just updating... which works, yes... until it just doesn't anymore XD^^
[18:42] <br0wnie> With ~55gb free space
[18:42] <br0wnie> Idk how much it'll let me shrink by though
[18:43] <Wug> crucerio: what version of ubuntu are you using? if it's something old, your xorg.conf might be relevant
[18:43] <br0wnie> I mean, do I even need another partition for it? I have the option of "install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8"
[18:43] <Wug> nowadays that file is probably mostly ignored
[18:43] <daftykins> br0wnie: hrmm, maybe do a quick "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[18:43] <crucerio> my version is 15.04
[18:43] <Wug> br0wnie: it needs its own partition, so it will have to create one regardless
[18:44] <br0wnie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12265494/
[18:44] <Wug> crucerio: im not sure then. as far as i know most laptop keyboards are internally connected as usb devices
[18:45] <nug700> I got ubuntu 15 installed on an ssd, however my computer won't boot off it
[18:45] <crucerio> so could I add a script that forces linux to let go the device and virtually replug it?
[18:46] <Wug> crucerio: out of curiosity did you install 15.04 fresh or did you update from an older version
[18:47] <crucerio> Wug: it is fresh
[18:47] <nug700> seriously how is ubuntu having MORE problems than back when I was on 10
[18:47] <Wug> nug700: is your bootloader sane
[18:47] <crucerio> hm does it matter that it's (x)ubuntu?
[18:47] <Wug> crucerio: no idea then :(
[18:48] <Wug> don't they have their own channel?
[18:48] <Wug> maybe ask there
[18:48] <Wug> it might be a weird but common xubuntu specific issue.
[18:48] <jhutchins> crucerio: No, the only difference in the ?ubuntu versions is which desktop they install by default.
[18:48] <Wug> nug700: is your bootloader grub or something else
[18:48] <pbx> nug700, you need to give lots more context. like, have you booted this version successfully from another drive?  what's the hardware? has it run other versions of ubuntu successfully?  what have you tried?
[18:48] <Wug> i know grub, if it's something else you will have to google it
[18:49] <Wug> if you boot to it and it just automatically loads the wrong operating system, that's probably a bootloader thing
[18:49] <derek01> Guess whos back! Its me! Still having issues with nautilus. Really dont want to reintsall, as I know its fixable. Ive read that others have had the issue but their resolutions didnt work. Whenever I move a folder or file from anywhere to anywhere, it crashes nautilus
[18:49] <Wug> it might just be configured not to show the prompt, and it's just auto-booting the first entry in the list (windows)
[18:49] <Wug> I believe grub configures by default the shift key to force the prompt when booting regardless of the setting to hide it
[18:50] <Wug> so, just to eliminate possible obvious problems, you might try holding shift while booting.
[18:50] <jhutchins> derek01: I don't think anyone here has had that problem or heard of it before.  You'll need to search web pages, wikis, and user forums/mailing lists for problems with nautilus.
[18:50] <nug700> I installed ubuntu 15 onto an ssd. All I get is a flashing white underscore
[18:50] <Wug> if you're sure it's not something obvious like that, you could try running update-grub to rescan for operating systems
[18:50] <br0wnie> Hey daftykins here is the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/12265494/ it seems like things are okay? Should I try installing?
[18:51] <jhutchins> Wug: So you want to change the default in /etc/defaults/grub, then run update-grub.
[18:51] <derek01> jhutchins: I found a few related articles, pertaining to the bug, however the fix didnt help. I cant remember if it was you who was helping me the other night or not....so many have tried
[18:51] <daftykins> br0wnie: yep, go for it
[18:51] <jhutchins> Wug: Press shift while booting to dosplay the menu.
[18:51] <Wug> jhutchins: --> nug700
[18:51] <daftykins> br0wnie: ensure you pick sda for the bootloader (GRUB) and i would pick no for updates while installing, doesn't matter though
[18:52] <br0wnie> daftykins I went to the next screen just to see, and it looks like I'd get ~29gb partition for Ubuntu http://i.imgur.com/0PfVPWb.png better than expected
[18:52] <br0wnie> taking the plunge, brb
[18:52] <jhutchins> derek01: You should try a different file manager.
[18:53] <derek01> jhutchins: any suggestions on which to go with first
[18:54] <nug700>  Pressing shift does nothing
[18:54] <nug700>  Pressing shift repeatedly
[18:55] <OerHeks> derek01, "Really dont want to reintsall, as I know its fixable" you added KDE and removed it, and you tried reinstall ubuntu-desktop that should solve issues... so you KNOW it can be fixed? tell me how :-D
[18:56] <jhutchins> nug700: Yeah, I'm not sure who I was responding to, I thought  somebody said they were booting straight to windows.
[18:56] <ioria> nug700, what you had before on that disk ?
[18:56] <Wug> jhutchins: I mentioned that I suspect it was possible
[18:56] <yfcihpoymh> good evening ladies and gentlemen. do you have, out of your head, any idea how to achieve an internal drive to pretend to be an actual removable usb connected drive to the system?
[18:56] <nug700> Windows 7 before
[18:56] <Wug> nug700: describe your system and your install procedures
[18:56] <derek01> OerHeks: Well, it happened before the KDE mishap, and It also happened to me on 14.04, which was solved by upgrading to 14.10. So I guess I shouldnt say i KNOW it can be fixed, but I feel it should be able to be
[18:56] <Wug> and remember, windows' bootloader is a dick
[18:56] <ioria> nug700, bios or uefi ?
[18:57] <Wug> that likes to think it's the only bootloader in the universe
[18:57] <yfcihpoymh> I mean how do I trick the system to think that an internal drive actually is a removable one
[18:57] <bekks> yfcihpoymh: You cant.
[18:57] <Wug> yfcihpoymh: you might be able to do so with a kernel driver or something, but im not sure such a thing exists (so you'd have to write it yourself, which is a whole lot of work.)
[18:58] <derek01> OerHeks: jhutchins: I just got an error code, http://pastebin.com/qkhghBZw
[18:58] <OerHeks> derek01, oh, now you mention upgrade to 14.10 .. what else did you try ?
[18:58] <nug700> I reset my bios last night trying to get ubuntu 14 to install. Today I burned ubuntu 15 on a flash drive,  Which let me install without a hitch.
[18:58] <daftykins> yfcihpoymh: why on earth...
[18:58] <yfcihpoymh> bekks: this is too easy a solution for me :)
[18:59] <crucerio> Wug: well... there are around 50 accounts logged in to the xubuntu channel, but the only one writing is me XD
[18:59] <OerHeks> derek01, you have been told too: starting nautilus from terminal give messages, those are not critical.
[18:59] <Klas5> yo
[18:59] <yfcihpoymh> daftykins: easy to explain. I need liveusb creator to cooperate with an internal sata drive
[18:59] <Wug> crucerio: patience
[18:59] <nug700> I had a 1tb hdd as a data drive for Windows that was installed during the ubuntu installation
[18:59] <ioria> nug700, do you know if your motherboard is uefi or not ?
[18:59] <Klas5> so Im writing a bash macro
[18:59] <nug700>  It is uefi
[18:59] <daftykins> yfcihpoymh: you want to boot and reinstall from a secondary disk, essentially?
[18:59] <lrcaballero>  yfcihpoymh: another option is to purchase an external HDD enclosure capable of USB3 & 2 and just run it externally at boot! Do you understand?
[18:59] <yfcihpoymh> Wug: I hope for something already existing, to be honest
[18:59] <derek01> OerHeks: even the last statement, showing the error, BadWindow?
[18:59] <daftykins> yfcihpoymh: easy, don't use silly creator programs, just 'dd' the ISO onto the disk.
[19:00] <derek01> OerHeks: it only shows that message, after I re-create the scenario
[19:00] <Wug> nug700: not getting a grub prompt when you hold shift when booting indicates that you're not booting to grub
[19:00] <ioria> nug700, did you select uefi -usb before the installation process ?
[19:01] <yfcihpoymh> lrcaballero: clever indeed :) still looking for suggestions with the drive internally connected. i mean, i'm pretty sure it's possible (what isn't with linux?), i just don't know yet how.
[19:01] <jhutchins> yfcihpoymh: What are you really trying to do?  All drives can appear as removable.  I use hotpluggable sata drives for backups.
[19:01] <Wug> if you installed ubuntu to a new disk and left the old disk unchanged, then you might simply be booting to the wrong hard drive
[19:01] <notr00tuser> Hello! :)
[19:01] <daftykins> IRC as root, tut tut
[19:01] <nug700> Ill try again making sure I select uefi usb
[19:01] <Wug> nug700: see if you can get a bios/uefi boot menu and pick the other drive?
[19:01] <jhutchins> nug700: You probably need to reinstall grub to the MBR.
[19:01] <br0wnie_> Hey daftykins and Wug, it installed perfectly fine and works great. Seriously thank you both, I thought I was done for lol. I really appreciate the help
[19:02] <daftykins> br0wnie_: now plug the other disk back in, haha ;)
[19:02] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[19:02] <br0wnie_> daftykins will do :D
[19:02] <yfcihpoymh> daftykins: i need to unfortunately. I need to dump tails (tor live) to internal drive and in order to have persistence i need to use the installer provided, which in turn is a fork of liveusb creator, which in turn doesn't see internal drives but usb and sd card
[19:02] <notr00tuser> I have an uber low spec VPS and was wodering if I can install a lightweight GUI and VNC
[19:02] <ioria> nug700, what you mean with "I had a 1tb hdd as a data drive for Windows that was installed "
[19:02] <Wug> daftykins: you know modern clients will let you put whatever you want in that field and as long as you don't have an ident server running to override it, the ircd will just go with it
[19:02] <ioria> ?
[19:02] <notr00tuser>  vCPU Core
[19:02] <notr00tuser> 128MB RAM
[19:02] <notr00tuser> 500GB Bandwidth @ 1Gbit
[19:02] <notr00tuser> 3GB HDD
[19:02] <notr00tuser> Wooops
[19:03] <Wug> notr00tuser: I don't think you'd want to run a gui on 128MB of ram
[19:03] <Wug> i'd frankly be surprised if the system would even successfully boot to a graphical environment with a recent version of ubuntu
[19:04] <nug700> yea I installed the previous on in bios mode
[19:04] <ioria> nug700, could be a problem if you have Win in msdos and ubuntu in uefi
[19:04] <notr00tuser> Wug:  I can always upgrade the VPS however I was hoping I could run a thing gui for minmial use :P
[19:04] <yfcihpoymh> daftykins: you can indeed dump the hybrid iso to sda, but then the resulting system isn't able to configure persistent volume. but let's not overcomplicate the matter :) i wouldn't wanna bother you with the usecase. I'm just looking for an opportunity to have the internal drive show up as an external one.
[19:04] <daftykins> yfcihpoymh: hmm, why you want this on a hard disk is beyond my understanding
[19:04] <Wug> notr00tuser: you could do what i suggested to br0wnie_ earlier, and use ssh forwarding to run individual applications without a whole desktop environment
[19:05] <Wug> but, im not sure you'd be able to get much on there
[19:05] <ioria> nug700, if you have win with a msdos PT, install ubuntu in legacy mode
[19:05] <Wug> the libraries you'd need to install to make that work alone would use up most of your 3GB disk
[19:05] <notr00tuser> Wug I'm rather new to owning a shell and the whole unix scene can you point me in a direction of a good resource for such a thing?
[19:05] <Wug> here is a pretty good resource
[19:05] <nug700>  What is an msdos PT?
[19:06] <yfcihpoymh> daftykins: good question. I have a dedicated rig for it and after pulling my hair out about a silly acer bios unable to boot from sd card I decided to just dump it to the internal drive instead.
[19:06] <nug700>  Ah partition table
[19:06] <ioria> nug700, msdos / gpt
[19:06] <Wug> and I'd say that as a rule of thumb, for a graphical environment (if you want any semblance of reasonable performance), you will want at least 512MB of ram and 10GB of disk
[19:06] <daftykins> yfcihpoymh: don't own a flash drive?
[19:07] <Wug> you could probably squeeze one onto slightly less if you applied a bunch of tweaks and byte-pinching
[19:07] <Wug> but in general, most of the things you buy a shell account for are non-graphical things
[19:07] <tobbsen> Ahoy. It feels like the shutdown is too fast to let firefox exit gracefully, it always says it crashed after a reboot (Lubuntu 14.04). Is that possible at all?
[19:07] <Wug> (also vnc is a reasonably terrible protocol that performs very poorly on high latency connections)
[19:07] <notr00tuser> Wug, okie doke thanks :)
[19:07] <daftykins> tobbsen: maybe close it first? :P
[19:07] <yfcihpoymh> daftykins: I do. don't wanna have things sticking out from the side though. thus the sd card idea. now, after the acer bios fiasco, it's either selling the damn thing or using the internal drive as a last resort.
[19:07] <notr00tuser> brb
[19:07] <bekks> tobbsen: So close firefox before you shutdown.
[19:08] <barfly> hey, should i enter my personal data when creating certificate for vpn?
[19:08] <barfly> *my real personal data
[19:08] <tobbsen> thats not a good solution, i want it to keep multiple windows open and reopen them later daftykins & bekks
[19:08] <daftykins> tobbsen: yeah, so you choose "keep windows and tabs from last time" then use file -> exit
[19:08] <daftykins> that'll restore all on next run
[19:09] <daftykins> you don't crash it to achieve this :P
[19:09] <bekks> tobbsen: Rhen click on "restore last session" after starting firefox.
[19:09] <yfcihpoymh> daftykins: and ... I'm pretty sure making linux comply with the internal VS usb creator battle is WAY easier than having to deal with the acer bios (modify it) any longer.
[19:09] <Wug> well, if firefox is dumb and just dumps all signals into the crash handling signal handler, then logging off (which sends sigint to processes) would appear to firefox as a flavor of crash
[19:09] <tobbsen> I thought "shutdown" would not crash apps but let them exit gracefully? but thanks for that option daftykins and bekks
[19:09] <daftykins> yfcihpoymh: oh well, too crazy a desire for me i'm afraid.
[19:10] <Guest69> WUG can I pick your brain about a few more things?
[19:10] <Wug> tobbsen: it doesn't really. but it doesn't exactly ask nicely either
[19:10] <Wug> Guest69: sure
[19:10] <yfcihpoymh> daftykins: fair enough :)
[19:10] <Guest69> Wug Can you reccomend a good terminal email app
[19:10] <ki7mt> Ok, this one has me stumped. I'm sure it's simple, but .. In Gedit, can anyone tell me how the Checkmark and X is being displayed as in this this code snippet / text doc: http://ibin.co/2EPErzAHklHM  .. is it a plug-in or something for Gedit?
[19:11] <Wug> Guest69: you mean for ubuntu, or for something like windows
[19:11] <AmazonianDude> I have a question
[19:11] <Wug> I never mess with special applications for that stuff, too much work.
[19:11] <Guest69> Wug for ubuntu
[19:11] <daftykins> AmazonianDude: ask away
[19:11] <Wug> on windows I use putty, and for linux I just use whatever terminal is provided
[19:11] <ioria> Guest69 alpine, mutt
[19:11] <daftykins> Wug: i think the joke was wasted on you re: the 'root' user earlier
[19:11] <Guest69> ioria what is prefferable?
[19:11] <Guest69> I will be using a gmail account
[19:12] <ioria> Guest69 i use alpine
[19:12] <nug700> Seems like it was much easier to install new operating systems 5 years ago.
[19:12] <Wug> daftykins: probably, although the possibility remains that it's simply and old and overused joke and I'm doing my part to kill it
[19:12] <AmazonianDude> daftykins: I have a system running Kubuntu that just will not play any sound. Speakers plugged in correctly etc. aplay -l lists the soundcard correctly and sees it as an Intel ICH5
[19:12] <daftykins> Wug: not since i'm referring to that users' nick :)
[19:12] <ash_work> is SQL_SERVER_ROOT a typical env variable?
[19:13] <ash_work> for bash I mean?
[19:13] <Wug> AmazonianDude: this sounds like a question for #kubuntu
[19:13] <derek01> in looking over my apport error log from nautilus crashing, i see it still stated im on trusty....looking more and more like my dist-upgrade was interupted somehow
[19:13] <daftykins> AmazonianDude: ah no idea on audio issues personally, assuming you've tried the common snd-hda-intel thing
[19:13] <ioria> Guest69 if you are brave, you can think of emacs
[19:13] <Guest69> nug700 I remember installing Windows with floppy disks :P
[19:13] <Guest69> ioria I'm not fussy :P
[19:14] <Guest69> Learning curves are fine
[19:14] <ioria> ^_^
[19:14] <Wug> oh god emacs as a shell
[19:14] <Guest69> The amount of time this takeaway is taking to arrive however is not fine
[19:14] <Wug> please just shoot me now
[19:14] <TJ-> AmazonianDude: common causes: the Mute control is on; the outputs are mixed up ( try connecting speakers/headphones to other physical outputs), master volume is OK but per-output volume is set to 0
[19:15] <AmazonianDude> per output volume?
[19:15] <Wug> AmazonianDude: i have no idea if kubuntu does this but the gnome interface allows you to configure volume per-process
[19:16] <TJ-> AmazonianDude: at the command-line, try "alsamixer" check the controls
[19:16] <TJ-> AmazonianDude: Also, try using 'aplay' at the command-line with an MP3/WAV/whatever file... if that works, you have a Pulseaudio configuration issue
[19:18] <nug700> Woo. Using the uefi installer instead of bios one worked.
[19:18] <nug700> It's boots
[19:19] <ioria> nug700, very good
[19:19] <ioria> nug700, you have two different disks ?
[19:20] <nug700> At the moment just the ssd connected
[19:20] <ioria> nug700, so windows doesn't play ?
[19:21] <nug700>  I want to install a data disk for ubuntu,  then install another ssd to put Windows on
[19:22] <rohan420> Hello everyone!
[19:23] <lrojas> hi all
[19:23] <lrojas> quick question
[19:23] <Rohan_Kanojia> hello
[19:24] <lrojas> if i use ssh keys to access servers, and one of my developers / sys admin leaves, how can i invalidate his keys?
[19:24] <bekks> Remove it from the authorized_keys file.
[19:24] <TJ-> lrojas: remove from authorized_keys
[19:25] <lrojas> TJ-: that's fine if i have to remove it from 1 or 2 servers, but what if i am talking close to a hundred ?
[19:25] <ioria> a script ?
[19:25] <bekks> lrojas: Then you still have to remove the entry from that particular file :)
[19:25] <lrojas> my question is more in general, is there a solution that would let me manage keys in the same way amazon manages keys ?
[19:26] <TJ-> lrojas: Presumably you have some form of configuration management system
[19:26] <lrojas> pressumably
[19:26] <lrojas> i'm really hoping for a sort of "centralized" key manager
[19:27] <bekks> lrojas: USe a configuration management system, and manage the removal of that entry from that file.
[19:27] <lrojas> where i generate the key for a user and the if the user is no longer with us i tell the system to invalidate the keys
[19:27] <bekks> lrojas: "invalidate the keys" is not how ssh keys work.
[19:28] <lrojas> well, somehow amazon manages to make it work like that
[19:28] <ioria> http://www.ssh.com/products/universal-ssh-key-manager
[19:28] <lrojas> without the keys actually being copied to the server
[19:28] <lrojas> ioria: interesting
[19:28] <flow> I am considering using etckeep to backup my /etc folder. However, I don't currently have any private repositories on git. Are there any reasons why I shouldn't make the /etc folder public?
[19:29] <TJ-> lrojas: see e.g.  http://serverfault.com/questions/117072/a-system-for-distributing-ssh-public-keys
[19:31] <Zodowow> Hi, I have a file from which I can no longer remember what it is. Anyways I'm dumping it through cat and hexdump and it appears to be almost all zero's. Now what surprises me is that's it's 30G of it on a NTFS partition
[19:32] <lrojas> thanks all
[19:32] <Zodowow> And the harddisk LED hardly blinks at all, nor does iostat show any reads from the disk device it's on. Any ideas on that? After several minutes the prompt returns so there must be quite a bit of reads
[19:33] <nug700> Having a strange issue where I'm getting a purple screen on startup
[19:33] <TJ-> Zodowow: If the file is mostly zero-pages then it is probably now fully in the page cache
[19:33] <nug700> started after installing a drive that
[19:34] <nug700> I removed it and am still getting the purple screen
[19:34] <Seveas> Zodowow: try 'file your-filename-here'
[19:34] <TJ-> nug700: 'purple screen' is usually the Plymouth 'splash' screen. Ideally, pressing 'Esc' will dismiss it and show the startup messages it hides. However, if in doubt, reboot and use the Recovery mode from Advanced menu
[19:34] <nug700>  Freezes the keyboard too
[19:35] <Zodowow> TJ-: hmm that might be it, it compresses pages?
[19:35] <Zodowow> Seveas: tried that first ;)
[19:35] <TJ-> Zodowow: not even that. If they're zero then every block points to a single page in kernel cache
[19:35] <Zodowow> TJ-: ah dedupe for 0's only? :)
[19:36] <ioria> nug700, start ubuntu than connect the drive ?
[19:36] <TJ-> Zodowow: Yes, since all-zero's is empty. Even if it is real data, it makes no difference since it is correctly represented in the page cache
[19:36] <ki7mt> Ha .. it's Unicode insert ( shift + ctrl +u ) then type the code .. that's pretty cool!! So, so for a checkmark == ( shift + ctrl +u)  < then type 2714> [ Enter]
[19:37] <MrJoestar> Is there a way to show emblems for files and folders in the gtk file chooser? Thanks
[19:39] <nug700> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1odupzivh5mgnra/2015-09-03%2012.37.33.jpg?dl=0
[19:39] <nug700> I get that error in recovery mode
[19:41] <rohan420>  /part
[19:41] <TJ-> nug700: Bad connection to disk drive, or failed drive/controller
[19:41] <ioria> nug700, switch sata
[19:42] <TJ-> nug700: probably the DVD image is corrupt
[19:43] <Zodowow> Any chance of having tar use threaded xz by default?
[19:44] <nug700> Meh was DVD drive
[19:46] <Nils-FR13> #ubuntu-fr
[19:46] <Nils-FR13> bonsoir
[19:47] <Nils-FR13> y a t'il quelqu'un qui puisse m'aider au niveau affichage, j'ai des problèmes avec mes Gnome Panels
[19:47] <Nils-FR13> en particulier ceux que j'ai positionné verticalement, les fenêtre plein écran passent en dessous
[19:49] <stacks88> I ran tasksel and chose Ubuntu GNOME desktop and it installed it. Do I need to "start it up" in a sense, like service gdm start ? because i notice from ps auxw i dont see anything running necessarily
[19:49] <Nils-FR13_> #ubuntu-fr
[19:49] <Nils-FR13_> oups
[19:50] <ioria> !fr
[19:50] <Nils-FR13_> ok, no problem, I made a mistake with Xchat
[19:51] <Nils-FR13_> I don't know how to open 2 chats in the same time, and came from unbuntu-fr, which one I did not want to leave, wish to have both in the same time
[19:53] <Zodowow> Nils-FR13_: /join <channelname usually starts with #>
[19:54] <Nils-FR13> ok, I ask again in english, I have a problem with my vertical Gnome Panels, full screen windows have a part hidden by vertical Gnome Panels, I am using Gnome Flashback
[19:55] <Nils-FR13> this happened after I added a third screen, with a "new" (old) Radeon graphic card
[19:56] <Nils-FR13> how can i check if I am using Compiz or not ?
[19:56] <bekks> Nils-FR13: Which desktop environment do you use?
[19:57] <ikab> hello, I have an ubuntu 14.04.3 server, and I need to install "calendarserver" service (yes I need this), I installed with apt-get but when I want to start the service I get this python exception "xml.sax._exceptions.SAXReaderNotAvailable: No parsers found"
[19:57] <Nils-FR13> I am using Gnome Flashback on U14 LTS
[20:04] <Nils-FR13> bekks,  I am using Gnome Flashback on U14 LTS
[20:04] <bekks> Whats "U14 LTS"?
[20:04] <bekks> Nils-FR13: Do you mean "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS"?
[20:05] <Nils-FR13> bekks, yes I do
[20:05] <Nils-FR13> sorry bekks
[20:06] <bekks> Nils-FR13: Gnome Flashback doesnt use Compiz.
[20:07] <Nils-FR13> bekks, the issue is on my 3 screens, I have one vertical Gnome Panel on each, but, no problem with horizontal Gnome Panel
[20:07] <Nils-FR13> bekks, ok about Compiz, so I don't have to try to setting it up
[20:08] <Nils-FR13> bekks, this issue came with the installation of the second ATI Radeon card + third screen
[20:14] <Nils-FR13> bekks, I found this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1258422
[20:15] <Nils-FR13> ubottu, ? we found it at the same time ?
[20:15] <Nils-FR13> ouarf !
[20:15] <bekks> Nils-FR13: And how is a KDE error ralted to your Gnome Flashback? :)
[20:16] <bekks> *related
[20:17] <Nils-FR13> bekks, I do not understand your question ?, I do not use KDE, what KDE error ?, you talk about the sentence with kscreen (in the given link) ?
[20:17] <bekks> Nils-FR13: Your just posted a bug about KDE.
[20:18] <Nils-FR13> bekk, well, it is just what I found with my research, but I do not use KDE, maybe this will help, I don't know
[20:18] <Nils-FR13> bekk, yes, I did not read the title correctly
[20:19] <Nils-FR13> bekks, maybe this means, that issue does not belong to GnomeFlashback
[20:20] <Nils-FR13> bekks, but the issue is exactly the same for me, it happens, only if panel is at screens' boundaries, it does not happen on external egdes
[20:20] <Guest69> Waited for 1 hour 40 mins for my food to arrive, do I punch the takeaway driver?
[20:20] <Guest86427> i friends
[20:20] <Guest69> hello Guest86427
[20:22] <ibouvousaime> my USB drive became a 8mb drive and cant mount how can I fix it ?
[20:24] <Wug> ibouvousaime: it's possible that it's gone bad. they die after too much use
[20:25] <Wug> the flash's failure mode is to stop being writable
[20:25] <ibouvousaime> ohhh
[20:25] <Wug> you can try getting everything off of it with dd and then using partition recovery tools on the image if there was anything on it you cared about
[20:25] <Guest69> diskdestroyer!
[20:26] <Wug> once you have that you can try dding over the whole thing, if you get write errors the drive is toast
[20:27] <Wug> (keep in mind that dd-ing over the whole contents of the flash drive is a destructive operation and it will need to be reformatted afterwards)
[20:27] <gschanuel> hello
[20:28] <ntz> hello
[20:28] <ntz> I came to tell truth (I'm suse KDE user and I swear, it works like that): http://lamiradadelreplicante.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/montypython_linux.jpg
[20:29] <ntz> :D
[20:29] <gschanuel> have anyone found a way to disable the area where buttons are on touchpads?  Should I install the default version or the newer backport version of stuff?
[20:49] <hecatae> mekhami,  gts 450 and gt610 very similar in spec
[20:49] <tgm4883> victor_: backport probably
[20:49] <hecatae> mekhami,  sent you a private message with the links on the nvidia site
[20:50] <hecatae> mekhami,  as Zodowow  states, a 730 or 740 may be possible for the same money
[20:53] <Zodowow> Probably consume a bit more power, also quite a bit quicker however.
[20:57] <Morpheus> hi
[20:57] <Morpheus> friends
[21:09] <rob__> hey guys is anyone available to help me with a steam/nvidia installation problem im having?
[21:09] <stacks88> i installed xfce4 and am using xrdp to connect remotely.. the system has 512mb of ram and is a virtual machine on a amd 2.8ghz processor. the load average is 3.xx .. is that normal for 512mb and 1 core allocated to the vm?
[21:09] <reisio> nobody can help you till you're more specific
[21:10] <rob__> well i didnt want to just post an error message and seem like a dick haha
[21:10] <rob__> but,
[21:10] <reisio> stacks88: how much ram does the host have?
[21:10] <stacks88> 8 gb
[21:10] <stacks88> but vm is only allocated 512mb
[21:11] <rob__> im trying to install Steam on a brand new OS installation. I was able to install steam and get it running without nvidia graphics drivers, but when i install the drivers, steam no longer runs
[21:11] <rob__> i get the error message:
[21:11] <rob__> Running Steam on ubuntu 14.04 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically [2015-09-03 16:57:44] Startup - updater built Aug 19 2015 11:27:40 Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1440016726) libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[21:12] <reisio> stacks88: what's the problem?
[21:12] <rob__> the real important part of the error message, i believe, is libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found libGL error: failed to load driver: swras
[21:12] <stacks88> was asking about the load being 3.xx on the vm
[21:12] <stacks88> if that was normal
[21:12] <stacks88> after installing xfce and xrdp and just remote desktop'ing in
[21:13] <stacks88> now its about 1.76 so i guess its normal
[21:13] <rob__> does anyone have any idea how to fix my problem?
[21:18] <reisio> rob__: what was the error?
[21:18] <reisio> stacks88: what's it matter what the load is?
[21:18] <stacks88> uh because things are slow? i didnt think the load would get so high
[21:18] <stacks88> with just installing xfce and remote desktopping in
[21:19] <eraggo> rob which nvidia card?
[21:19] <rob__> gtx 970
[21:19] <eraggo> rob__: sec
[21:19] <reisio> stacks88: is it slow not using RDP?
[21:20] <reisio> rob__: what was the error?
[21:20] <eraggo> rob__: since i have exactly same card. Did you add new repos for latest ubuntu version
[21:20] <LightweightOS> Why is ubuntu's default firewall, UFW disabled by default? Isn't it dangerous to not have a firewall enabled on your computer?
[21:21] <reisio> LightweightOS: nope
[21:21] <reisio> it's dangerous to use Windows, firewall or not
[21:21] <rob__> reisio : i messaged it to you in private message
[21:21] <mcsteve> LightweightOS: not really. By default, Ubuntu also doesn't really have any listening services
[21:21] <reisio> Windows is not Unix
[21:21] <rob__> $ steam Running Steam on ubuntu 14.04 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically [2015-09-03 16:57:44] Startup - updater built Aug 19 2015 11:27:40 Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1440016726) libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[21:21] <rob__> but here
[21:21] <rob__> eraggo, i believe so
[21:22] <eraggo> can you check from nvidiacontrolcenter what driver are you running on?
[21:23] <thesilenttype> WagWan
[21:24] <stacks88> reisio by slow im not referring to the remote desktop. im talking about on the system. im also logged in via ssh and cant even type any commands with the load sky rocketing to 23.xx at times.. or just running apt-get install wine
[21:24] <stacks88> seems to have finally settled down to 0.72, guess maybe 512mb of ram is too small
[21:25] <thesilenttype> What's the problem?
[21:25] <reisio> stacks88: this is wht Xfce running?
[21:26] <stacks88> yea
[21:27] <stacks88> i notice running top it says 43.5% cpu for Xvnc so i dunno
[21:29] <Panacea> hey guys, quick question: what ubuntu version are you running?
[21:30] <joesavage> Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm trying to compile some C that includes kernel header files and am having issues chasing around headers. e.g. I try and compile with the include directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic/include', and get the following back: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12267301/. I'm running Ubuntu Server 14.04.3 LTS - could anyone lend a helping hand?
[21:34] <LightweightOS> Is there a way to configure pidgin so that it doesn't download rooms to the roomlist that have less than 10 users? Pidgin will lag and crash from all of the rooms with 1 people in it. Maybe it's a bit off-topic, however I am using pidgin to get to this irc channel.
[21:34] <Jordan_U> joesavage: What are you trying to compile?
[21:34] <joesavage> Jordan_U: A kernel module
[21:34] <Jordan_U> joesavage: What kernel module?  It's hard to get started when I'm still wrestling the header files though.
[21:36] <Jordan_U> joesavage: The problem is most likely that this module was written for a different kernel version. The linux kernel intentionally has no stable internal ABI.
[21:37] <joesavage> Jordan_U: I'd expect a different error in that case though - it appears the problem here is within the header files I'm including, not in my module code
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> LightweightOS  type /j #pidgin
[21:38] <mmejia27> I have a question about setting up iptables to whitelist some IPs to use a SOCKS proxy. I'm using ssh -n -f -N -D <IP_ADDRESS>:$socks_port localhost to create the SOCKS proxy and would like to only allow two IPs to use it. When I apply the following iptable rules, it breaks the proxying (SSH to the box still works). What am I missing?
[21:38] <mmejia27> iptables -A INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j ACCEPT
[21:38] <mmejia27> iptables -A INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j ACCEPT
[21:38] <mmejia27> iptables -A INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS>/0 -j DROP
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> !paste | mmejia27
[21:39] <mmejia27> Thanks!
[21:39] <Jordan_U> joesavage: I still expect that is the problem here. You can try compiling against the kernel version this was written for, though most likely that's an older kernel which would likely cause issues were you to try to use it (and thus we wouldn't support it).
[21:39] <LightweightOS> MonkeyDust: Thank you.
[21:40] <TJ-> joesavage: Did you run the 'prepare', '*config' and 'modules_prepare' target first?
[21:40] <mmejia27> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12267504/
[21:41] <joesavage> TJ-: I haven't done any of those, no
[21:42] <TJ-> joesavage: If you're building a module, those need to be done before yoy can do 'make M=path/to/module'
[21:43] <joesavage> TJ-: I'll look into it now - thanks
[21:43] <TJ-> joesavage: I'd also recommend you look at the DKMS build scripts, since they are there to build an arbitrary module against any installed kernel
[21:43] <untrium> hi, short question. if i connect my lumia (windowsphone) per usb to my ubuntu system, ubuntu asks me if i want to open the device with the shotwell photo viewer, but the command blkid doesnt list the device with a /dev/sdx id
[21:44] <TJ-> joesavage: package 'dkms' which builds modules from /usr/src/<moodule-name>-<version>/
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> !phone | untrium try here
[21:45] <TJ-> untrium: That is probably because the device presents as an MTP device
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> hm
[21:45] <anita_> hola
[21:45] <untrium> TJ-: with win10 i can open the phone like an usb stick
[21:46] <TJ-> untrium: It's application-defined how the application presents the device, but the protocol is likely to be MTP
[21:47] <untrium> TJ-: and what can i do about it? if i try to open it with shotwell it gives me the error  "unable to fetch previews from the camera: could not claim the USB device (-53)"
[21:47] <mekhami> which driver is recommended for the evga gtx 750 ti card?
[21:48] <SpongNoVitch> hi every body
[21:48] <SpongNoVitch> i am mohammed from egypt and i am very new on linux
[21:48] <SpongNoVitch> its my first time to run linux
[21:48] <Jordan_U> untrium: Can you browse its files via nautilus (the file manager)?
[21:48] <nexima> hi all
[21:49] <SpongNoVitch> can i get help using linux in this channel ????
[21:49] <TJ-> untrium: That suggests another application may have taken exclusive control. Most file-system explorers can present an MTP device it shouldn't need Shotwell. Do you also see a "Open File Manager" option on the USB connection notification?
[21:49] <untrium> nope, it is not even realy mounted. it shows up in caja (using ubuntu mate here) but with a camera icon. if i browse into the phone via caja it only shows some hint to open it with shotwell
[21:49] <Jordan_U> SpongNoVitch: If you're using Ubuntu, yes.
[21:50] <SpongNoVitch> i am using backbox 4.3
[21:50] <untrium> TJ-: yes i can choose to open it with caja, but it doesnt show any file only a hint to open it with shotwell
[21:50] <SpongNoVitch> ppl told me its part of ubuntu
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> SpongNoVitch  backbox is not supported here
[21:50] <SpongNoVitch> where can i get help using the backbox ???
[21:51] <SpongNoVitch> is ubuntu better than backbox or what should i use ????
[21:51] <TJ-> untrium: The way it is supposed to work is USB > MTP > GVFS > application
[21:51] <nexima> I have used this command "apt-get remove perl" and relationed services has stopped and doesn't start now. could you help me
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> SpongNoVitch  type /msg alis list blah   to find a channel
[21:51] <untrium> TJ-: wat
[21:51] <Jordan_U> SpongNoVitch: Then no. They have their own support channel #backbox on irc.autistici.org (which is not the network you're currently on).
[21:51] <maszlo> Does anyone know of a good resource that compares what current generation notebooks best work with dual booting windows and ubuntu?
[21:51] <untrium> TJ-: where do i find the MTP devices, in /media/user/ it isnt listed
[21:52] <Jordan_U> SpongNoVitch: You can also try ##linux here on freenode, which is a channel for general GNU/Linux support (all distribution questions welcome there).
[21:52] <maszlo> There are number of dinosaur info on Ubuntu compatibility
[21:52] <TJ-> untrium: No, GVFS (Gnome Virtual File System) has a mount point per-device which may show up if you use 'mount' at the command-line. Look for lines with '.gvfs/' in them
[21:53] <maszlo> I am not a novice. Just in market for new ultrabook. Want to avoid the mistakes I learned buying a bleeding edge Optimus (dual video card) system I did back in 2010
[21:54] <TJ-> untrium: I think if GVFS is involved, the mounts will be under $HOME/.gvfs/
[21:55] <TJ-> untrium: In newer Ubuntu releases, the mounts are at "/run/user/$USER/gvfs"
[21:56] <Jordan_U> maszlo: You can always buy from a company that advertises GNU/linux support and ships with a GNU/Linux distribution. One such company is System76: https://system76.com/laptops
[21:56] <untrium> TJ-: at /run/user/ there is only a folder called 1000, this folder is empty
[21:57] <untrium> TJ-: the .gvfs in the home directory isnt a directory, so i dont really know what to do with it
[21:58] <Na3iL> Hey, who know what's the problem with blender when I add mp4 files it tells me file can not be loaded..
[21:58] <TJ-> untrium: right, 1000 is the USER id not USER name. It's not clear if recent Ubuntu releases are using gvfs-mtp or some more direct access via libmtp. I don't use Gnome so I can't check. Maybe someone else using Unity/Gnome can test it so you can compare
[21:59] <untrium> TJ-: i am on mate, or is this the same in this regard?
[21:59] <maszlo> Jordan_U: is that what you run?
[22:00] <untrium> TJ-: opening the phone via file manager, and opening the properties it says that the permissions of the device could not be determined
[22:00] <reisio> Na3iL: try doing it after running blender from a terminal; might get a more useful error in the term
[22:00] <Na3iL> Okay reisio
[22:01] <untrium> TJ-: if i unmount the device, where should i find it so that i cant mount it again via shell?
[22:02] <TJ-> untrium: It's an MPT device, so you'd need an application that 'talks' MTP and presents the device. There's a package 'mtp-tools' which *may* contain something to do that
[22:03] <Epx998> How do I disable a service from starting at boot-up?
[22:03] <TJ-> untrium: "apt-file list mtp-tools" tells me there several command-line tools in there, and man-pages, for manually manipulating MTP devices
[22:03] <Epx998> in centos its chkconfig, is there something similar in ubuntu?
[22:03] <TJ-> Epx998: what Ubuntu release and init system?
[22:03] <maszlo> Jordan_U: they do not seem to have good spec options then need to deal with buying windows to dual boot.
[22:03] <untrium> TJ-: i am reading the manpages now, thank you
[22:03] <TJ-> Epx998: We've got a mix of SysV-Init, Upstart, and Systemd :p
[22:03] <Epx998> TJ-: 12.04 LTS
[22:04] <TJ-> Epx998: OK so SysV-Init/Upstart. First you need to determine if the service is started from /etc/init.d/ (SysV-Init) or /etc/init/ (Upstart)
[22:05] <TJ-> Epx998: what's the name of the service?
[22:05] <Epx998> pe-puppet
[22:05] <dm_comp> hi, what is a normal temp range for a laptop in C?
[22:06] <Epx998> TJ-, looks like just in /etc/init.d - it doesnt exist in /etc/init
[22:06] <TJ-> Epx998: 'pe-puppet'? Hmmm, can't find that
[22:07] <TJ-> Epx998: OK, then you use "sudo update-rc.d pe-puppet disable"
[22:07] <Epx998> TJ-: let me give that a try
[22:07] <sahnounM91> hi , blender not support mp4 format !, is there a solution ?
[22:08] <TJ-> dm_comp: 35 - 50ish
[22:08] <untrium> TJ-: "unable to open ~/.mtpz-data for reading, MTPZ disabled" what do?
[22:08] <untrium> TJ-: libmtp version 1.1.8
[22:09] <TJ-> untrium: No idea! I rarely use MTP devices
[22:09] <reisio> sahnounM91: ...what?
[22:09] <dm_comp> TJ - what would you consider safe. I'm running a game and it hit 85C was able to get it down to 78
[22:11] <TJ-> untrium: looks like bug 1364741
[22:11] <untrium> TJ-: seems like it isnt a mtp device
[22:12] <TJ-> untrium: Check the specs for the exact model; all the Windows support issues say windowsphone only uses MTP
[22:12] <untrium> TJ-: ok, i have found the launchpad site to this bug. what should i do next? i dont where to navigate
[22:13] <noam_> hey there, VNC question. i'm trying to start a vnc server and i'm having trouble with writing a correct ~/.vnc/xserver. if i do gnome-session & gnome-terminal &; i get a gnome-terminal window on gray background with no window manager
[22:13] <noam_> what's the command to start unity? i've googled that for the past 2 hours
[22:13] <untrium> TJ-: ok my idea that it isnt mtp was only based on the fact that in an online tutorial which uses mtp-detect the samsung phone is found, but when i run the ocmmand it says "no raw devices found"
[22:13] <TJ-> untrium: I'd do "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" whilst plugging the device in; that should give some clues as to what the kernel sees of the device.
[22:13] <reisio> noam_: unity --replace, IIRC
[22:14] <ciurkut> hiho, how do i get current display cfg(i want to make script that would toggle between two confs)
[22:14] <reisio> config?
[22:14] <untrium> TJ-: kern.log gives me usb 1-1  Product name, manufacturer, serial number. three lines - nothing more
[22:15] <I-am-Groot> Hello, Just this morning, my dell latitude e6420 running ubuntu begun to hung up/freeze. And when i happens, nothing seems to work not even closing the lid gets it to respond. My only option is to press and hold the power button till it shuts down.
[22:15] <noam_> reisio, thanks but that gives me a python traceback with "no such file or directory"
[22:15] <I-am-Groot> It has happened 5 times now
[22:16] <I-am-Groot> Any help on that?
[22:16] <reisio> noam_: that sounds like a useful error
[22:18] <noam_> reisio, originates from subprocess.call(["stop", "unity-panel-service"])
[22:18] <TJ-> untrium: Those are important, tell me the numeric vendor and product IDs please
[22:19] <I-am-Groot> Anyone??
[22:19] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: start off by monitoring the CPU and GPU temperatures closely. If they climb just before the hang you've got a cooling issue
[22:19] <untrium> TJ-: Product: Lumia 930 (RM-1045)
[22:20] <untrium> TJ-: Manufacturer: Microsoft
[22:20] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: It may just need the fan/radiator cleaning (blowing out with compressed air)
[22:20] <untrium> also, i checked syslog, and it says the device was not an mtp device
[22:20] <TJ-> untrium: does it show the vendor/device IDs (each are 4-digit hex numbers)
[22:20] <noam_> reisio, is unity --replace supposed to be run by root?
[22:20] <untrium> TJ-: exactly like this guy: 1364741
[22:21] <untrium> TJ-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmtp/+bug/1393587 *
[22:21] <TJ-> untrium: can you show me "pastebinit <( tail -n 200 /var/log/kern.log )" ?
[22:21] <reisio> noam_: no
[22:22] <untrium> TJ-: the vendor device id is only in the syslog idVendor=0421
[22:22] <reisio> noam_: you trying to run unity the DE frontend?
[22:22] <TJ-> untrium: We probably just need to add your device IDs to the udev rules. Newer device IDs wouldn't be known when libmtp was packaged
[22:22] <I-am-Groot> TJ: Okay...But here is the weird part, it only seems to happen when watching a movie
[22:22] <I-am-Groot> with VLC player.
[22:23] <TJ-> untrium: The kernel log should have a line similar to: "New USB device found, idVendor=05c6, idProduct=6765"
[22:23] <noam_> reisio, yes. i'm a bit hazy on the details, it should go in ~/.vnc/xstartup
[22:23] <I-am-Groot> During the latest occurrence, i was watching a movie with VLC and a terminal screen appeared with all these writings.
[22:23] <untrium> TJ-: idVendor=0421, idProduct=06fc
[22:24] <TJ-> untrium: OK, with that we can compose a udev rule just for you :)
[22:24] <untrium> TJ-: :D
[22:24] <untrium> TJ-: what is a udev rule?
[22:25] <TJ-> untrium: what exact lumia model is it?
[22:25] <untrium> TJ- 930
[22:25] <I-am-Groot> TJ: the errors included EFLAGS
[22:25] <TJ-> untrium: 'udevd' is the user-space device daemon. It receives device state-change notifications from the Linux kernel and configures/notifies user-space and applications so the device can be used
[22:25] <reisio> noam_: oh okay, you want something else, then
[22:26] <noam_> reisio, successfully used this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/475023/how-to-make-vnc-server-work-with-ubuntu-desktop-without-xfce/475036#475036, for a gnome desktop
[22:27] <reisio> gj
[22:27] <noam_> at this point i just want to succeed launching unity to say i've succeeded though :)
[22:28] <leo__> gr
[22:28] <untrium> TJ-: ok reading the archlinux wiki about udev, how do we go about adding this rule?
[22:28] <TJ-> untrium: OK, issue this command exactly as I've typed it at the command line. It'll require your sudo password to write a new udev rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[22:28] <TJ-> untrium: echo -e "# Lumia 930 WindowsPhone\n"'ATTR{idVendor}=="0421", ATTR{idProduct}=="06fc", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="660", GROUP="audio", ENV{ID_MTP_DEVICE}="1", ENV{ID_MEDIA_PLAYER}="1"' | sudo tee -a /etc/udev/rules.d/70-libmtp.rules
[22:29] <TJ-> untrium: hopefully you will copy/paste that!
[22:30] <untrium> TJ-: should i disconnect or connect the device while running the command?
[22:31] <TJ-> untrium: Doesn't matter, but re-connect after the rules file is in place so it can be acted on
[22:32] <bet0x> Hello, i have a ATI R290 using Open Source Drivers (default) with 3 Monitors, the LightDM has a issue on boot i do see the wrong resolution on my primary screen and i don't know how to configure it.
[22:32] <TJ-> untrium: With luck, the libmtp version will be able to handle it. If not, it would require a later libmtp
[22:33] <untrium> TJ-: haha, windows says "Unable to mount Lumia 930 (RM 1045) No MTP devices found" :(
[22:33] <bet0x> Also i'm using 15.04
[22:33] <untrium> TJ-: ok i read, libmtp 1.1.9 is out, but wasnt merged into ubuntu yet
[22:34] <TJ-> untrium: If Windows says that too, that is weird.
[22:34] <untrium> TJ-: do i have to wait or can i update it myself without risking to break my system?
[22:34] <untrium> TJ-: No windows gives no problems (dual booting win10 with ubuntumate)
[22:35] <I-am-Groot> TJ: I took a picture of the error after it froze..here is a link   http://imgur.com/4npnuww
[22:36] <I-am-Groot> Its not that clear but thats all i got
[22:37] <TJ-> untrium: Which is it? You just said "windows says "Unable to mount Lumia 930 (RM 1045) No MTP devices found" :"
[22:38] <untrium> TJ-: i meant the windows with the warning message
[22:38] <untrium> TJ-: window*
[22:39] <TJ-> untrium: OH!!! :D
[22:39] <I-am-Groot> Do you still think its a heatup problem?? The cpu fan doesnt speed up or makes noise before the freeze
[22:39] <ciurkut> how do i check if screen is on/off via xrandr?
[22:39] <TJ-> untrium: which Ubuntu release are you using?
[22:40] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: That looks bad. Have you tried booting with an older kernel version from the Advanced menu?
[22:40] <I-am-Groot> TJ: Nope, I havent done anything.
[22:40] <untrium> TJ-: 15.04
[22:41] <I-am-Groot> As i said earlier, i got 4 seasons of teenwolf from a friend and thats all i have been watching.
[22:41] <I-am-Groot> I havent tinkered with the kernel
[22:43] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: I meant, try booting with an older kernel version from the Advanced menu to test if it is the current kernel only, causing the issue
[22:44] <I-am-Groot> OOkay, But how do i do that?? I havent messed with the Advanced menu before.
[22:44] <TJ-> untrium: Even 15.10 (in development) only has 1.1.8-1ubuntu2
[22:44] <untrium> TJ-: what does this mean?
[22:44] <bet0x> Hello, i have a ATI R290 using Open Source Drivers (default) with 3 Monitors, the LightDM has a issue on boot i do see the wrong resolution on my primary screen and i don't know how to configure it. I'm using Ubuntu 15.04
[22:44] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: As soon as the PC starts booting hold down the Shift key until you see the GRUB boot manager's boot menu. Select the "Advanced" sub-menu, then choose to boot one of the older kernel versions listed there, if there is one
[22:45] <I-am-Groot> Okay
[22:45] <TJ-> untrium: That Ubuntu is unlikely to have support for the 930, unless there's something obvious we're missing
[22:45] <sudomarize> if i change a git branch without commiting changes (only adding the modified files), will i lose those changes?
[22:45] <reisio> sudomarize: don't cross post
[22:45] <reisio> sudomarize: go to #git
[22:45] <sudomarize> reisio: i mean't to do it ubuntu, not linux
[22:46] <noam_> reisio, i will want to run unity later in the VNC X server, could you please point me in the right direction for that?
[22:46] <untrium> TJ-: so i have to wait atleast a year? ^^
[22:46] <reisio> noam_: sorry I use tigervnc's X module
[22:47] <untrium> TJ-: how do i delete the udev rule?
[22:47] <reisio> it lets you connect as if you were in front of the box
[22:47] <noam_> okay, i'll look that up then, thanks
[22:47] <reisio> highly recommend it
[22:47] <TJ-> untrium: It looks like a source-code patch as well as the udev rule are required
[22:47] <TJ-> untrium: see http://sourceforge.net/p/libmtp/bugs/1226/
[22:49] <TJ-> untrium: I'd think the 'best' way to fix this would be to patch the current Ubuntu source package with a patch specific to this issue, and maintain it on your PC. If Ubuntu package is updated, you can simply re-do the patch
[22:49] <I-am-Groot> TJ: Just before i try that, there is this information i taught might be useful. When i enter dmesg in terminal, i get these.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12268168/   ... is it normal?
[22:50] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: That's your Uncomplicated FireWall reports
[22:50] <I-am-Groot> OOh Okay
[22:51] <untrium> TJ-: i have to go to bed now, i will come in the following days again online. thank you very much so far :)
[22:51] <I-am-Groot> Then i am going into the boot manager, i would report back
[22:52] <untrium> bye
[22:58] <quietquail> o
[22:59] <I-am-Groot> TJ: So there were two older kernels, so i booted the least older one
[23:00] <I-am-Groot> So am i supposed to try doing whatever i was doing when it froze?
[23:01] <EXIDBot> v
[23:04] <sam_> quit
[23:05] <Jordan_U> I-am-Groot: Yes please.
[23:08] <I-am-Groot> Okay...so far so good
[23:08] <I-am-Groot> No lockups yet
[23:11] <Jordan_U> I-am-Groot: What version of Ubuntu are you using? What is the output of "uname -r"?
[23:11] <Kalimero> sorry for off-topic but how can i re-open a closed chat with a person or at least see trough the log ( he mentioned a program which name i forgot  :( )
[23:11] <Kalimero> in hexchat
[23:19] <OerHeks> Kalimero, not sure hexchat enables logging, check your settings > logging, also a button to open the log folder there
[23:20] <OerHeks> Kalimero, if it was in this channel, maybe in http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/03/ too
[23:20] <Kalimero> OerHeks: thanks found it
[23:21] <Kalimero> OerHeks: under settings -> logging is a open folder button.
[23:22] <Jordan_U> I-am-Groot: ?
[23:23] <I-am-Groot> Jordan_U: Sorry for the late reply. That command returned 3.13.0-36-generic
[23:23] <I-am-Groot> I think that is the kernel i chose from boot manager
[23:25] <Stryker13X> robert
[23:26] <Jordan_U> I-am-Groot: Please pastebin the output of "ls /boot/".
[23:27] <I-am-Groot> ok
[23:28] <I-am-Groot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12268484/
[23:37] <Jordan_U> I-am-Groot: Please pastebin the output of "debsums linux-image-3.13.0-37-generic"
[23:37] <Guest98755> Hello there, For some reason, my battery icon is not showing on Ubuntu 15.04 64 bit.  It's worth knowing if the kernel image that was giving you panics is corrupt (which the debsums command will tell you) but it's also worth doing a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to be sure that you have the latest kernel (and other important packages with security updates you may have been ...
[23:40] <Jordan_U> ... missing).
[23:40] <I-am-Groot> OOkay
[23:41] <Jordan_U> I-am-Groot: Hopefully your panics were due to a bug introduced in an update, then subsequently fixed in an update after that.
[23:41] <I-am-Groot> I havent updated Ubuntu due to insufficient disk space
[23:41] <I-am-Groot> Ha, Good to know
[23:42] <I-am-Groot> I only have 1.3gb of free space left
[23:42] <I-am-Groot> and an update would require more than that
[23:42] <TJ-> Huh? you could fit an entire ubuntu-server install in that :)
[23:42] <I-am-Groot> Reaally?
[23:43] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: remember, when you do a package upgrade the new package over-writes the old, so the amount of additional space used is small
[23:44] <I-am-Groot> i dedicated 24 gb space for ubuntu but it has gotten full and i dont know why
[23:45] <I-am-Groot> My home folder has taken 6.9 gb of the 24gb
[23:45] <I-am-Groot> and i have been wondering where the rest went
[23:45] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: Even for a GUI install, the OS rarely needs more than 8GiB
[23:45] <I-am-Groot> So i was told
[23:46] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: use 'df -h' to check the usage per file-system. Use 'sudo du / --max-depth=2 --summarize' to identify the base directories where most space is used
[23:46] <I-am-Groot> Is there a command i could enter that would sort of return the amount of space folders are occupying?
[23:47] <I-am-Groot> Great
[23:47] <Guest98755> Hello there, For some reason, my battery icon is not showing on Ubuntu 15.04 64 bit. Instead of a battery icon, there's a square with a red "NO" symbol.
[23:47] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: ahhh, drop the '--summarize' argument, it can't be used with max-depth
[23:48] <I-am-Groot> ookay
[23:48] <Guest98755> actually I figured it out sorry to bother you all :)
[23:50] <I-am-Groot> The command is still running, once its done, i will send the link
[23:50] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: This seems to give the best output for an overview, listing biggest sizes last. "sudo du --max-depth=2 -x / | sort -n"
[23:51] <I-am-Groot> oookay
[23:52] <I-am-Groot> TJ: I am running the new command but here is the output from the first command http://paste.ubuntu.com/12268681/
[23:55] <I-am-Groot> TJ: Output http://paste.ubuntu.com/12268698/
[23:57] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: You know that log file you showed me earlier, with all those UFW entries in? Look at /var/log/ it is using 3.7GB ... probably because the logs are so massive. You need to turn down the log verbosity of UFW and clear out some of the older log files
[23:57] <I-am-Groot> Wow! Okay
[23:58] <I-am-Groot> Can you please guide me through it?
[23:58] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: You also have 1,4GB in /root/ !
[23:58] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: /root/.android 769MB ... looks like you've been using Android Studio as root
[23:59] <I-am-Groot> Yea, It wouldnt install as a normal user
[23:59] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: several applications under /opt/ taking 755MB
[23:59] <I-am-Groot> But i would delete it as i gave up learning it
[23:59] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: and the rest is in your home directory