[22:04] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, indeed, it is getting rather late here, I have will have to logou within an hour or so.
[22:04] <hipo> Gentoo64, yeh i copy and pasted
[22:04] <Gentoo64> hipo: do it in terminal using tabs to complete. its more reliable
[22:04] <Gentoo64> it might be a different name
[22:04] <MyNickIsLongerTh> Tohuw: is that the same as Appmenu indicator?
[22:04] <Tohuw> th__: no, that is not what I typed. I said no gnome-taskbar. It has been replaced entirely by Unity's functions
[22:04] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: ok, good night. I have no further need for you. It'll be a while before I finish the LiveCD test.
[22:04] <hipo> gento064, hipo@sheila:~$ gksudo gedit /etc/chromium/default
[22:04] <Shirakawasuna> Gentoo64: no luck
[22:04] <tigranes> Hi! I just upgraded to 11.10 and can't seem to make the launcher "Never" hide. CompizConfig shows "Hide Launcher" setting set to "Never", but the launcher still hides whenever a window gets close.
[22:05] <mingdao_home> shucks, buckwheat
[22:05] <th__> Tohuw, aha. and what are they called?
[22:05] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: not sure. do you have a /usr/bin/xdg-open?
[22:05] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, "I have no further need for you" sounds a bit harsh, but still...Good Luck
[22:05] <Shirakawasuna> Gentoo64: yes
[22:05] <ironhalik> join #debian
[22:05] <ironhalik> soz
[22:05] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: I was playing ;-)
[22:05] <nicofs> I'd still appreciate any help with my wifi...
[22:05] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: sudo nano it and near the bottom where it says BROWSER, remove firefox
[22:05] <satanaa> I 1 issue, every time my screen goes to "pause" I have to reboot to get back to the desktop, anyone know what I have to do to fix it?
[22:05] <Tohuw> MyNickIsLongerTh: Yes. See http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/does-unity-support-disabling-the-global-application-menu
[22:06] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, Playing EvilGenius, are we now?
[22:06] <gnubie> Shirakawasuna, 11.10 try clicking system settings, then system indo, default progs
[22:06] <MyNickIsLongerTh> Tohuw: thank you :)
[22:06] <IsmAvatar> You should see me on a good day
[22:06] <yagoo> satanaa, sounds like u have sleep/powersaving freezing issues..
[22:06] <Tohuw> th__: indicators. There are multiple packages for some. Others are a result of the application employing the correct interface guidelines  to use the indicator space.
[22:06] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, that would be something indeed. Well, I enjoyed our chat and I wish you the best of luck.
[22:06] <Tohuw> I'm assisting a friend who has a Wacom Bamboo tablet in 11.10. It mostly works, but in GIMP it seems to randomly draw lines across the screen. Like, she will draw a straight line, it will draw two lines all the way from the  upper left of the canvas for no apparent reason, in addition to whatever she drew. Her settings in GIMP and wacomcpl are correct as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom Any insights?
[22:07] <gwb> my Launcher won't pop out when an app is maximized.  Can I change that?
[22:07] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: you too. Good night
[22:07] <Shirakawasuna> Gentoo64: no luck again
[22:07] <robin0800> tigranes, yes think that's broken could not resize either you can use confity which does work
[22:07] <Shirakawasuna> Gentoo64: it still opens in firefox
[22:07] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: it should work...
[22:07] <Gentoo64> :s
[22:07] <th__> Tohuw, tahnks
[22:07] <gnubie> Shirakawasuna, 11.10 try clicking system settings, then system indo, default progs
[22:07] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: is it thunderbird you're using?
[22:07] <yagoo> nicofs, i already told u what to try.. did u even try it?
[22:07] <gnubie> Shirakawasuna, 11.10 try clicking system settings, then system info, default progs
[22:07] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: it might have specific settings im not sure
[22:07] <Tohuw> gwb: http://peterpants.blogspot.com/2011/04/ubuntu-1104-unity-how-to-disable-unity.html
[22:08] <Gentoo64> brb
[22:08] <TehAndrew> so, for how long are you going to wait before giving me at least some response? i guess i'll ask my questions again... i recently installed ubuntu 11.10 (i've got an AMD graphics card) and i have issues with catalyst as i'm enabling vsync, the windows moves really choppy. however, i don't want choppy windows (and when i say choppy i mean that they lag when i move them across the screen)
[22:08] <Shirakawasuna> gnubie: I'm running xubuntu, but I have the equivalent option set to 'google-chrome' in xfce's settings
[22:08] <Tohuw> !patience| TehAndrew
[22:08] <nicofs> yagoo, you told me, it's something between me and the router - and that i should use encryption... or did you mean something else...?
[22:08] <gnubie> Shirakawasuna, ahh sorry
[22:08] <yagoo> TehAndrew, I don't seen any question in there.
[22:09] <yagoo> TehAndrew, probably i'll wait forever for a real question.
[22:09] <Tohuw> TehAndrew: how did you install catalyst?
[22:09] <TehAndrew> well, can't you figure out what i mean from that explanation?
[22:09] <TehAndrew> Tohuw: yes i've installed the one from ati.com
[22:09] <Tohuw> TehAndrew: problem one.
[22:09] <akira__> hey want to trade your Wifi problem with my "i can't install any software, have a nice day" problem?
[22:09] <TehAndrew> anyways the question was; how do i enable vsync without having choppy windows
[22:09] <Tohuw> TehAndrew: install the package jockey ("Hardware Drivers") suggests to you.
[22:09] <TehAndrew> Tohuw: alright
[22:10] <Tohuw> TehAndrew: AMD's linux packages have been and likely always will be terribly implemented.
[22:10] <robin0800> TehAndrew, think that is in compiz settings
[22:11] <TehAndrew> robin0800: i have tried disabling vsync in there, but that disables it in catalyst too..
[22:11] <MyNickIsLongerTh> Another question: When I enter the virtual desktop, I'm presented with 4 desktops.  If I click one, it shows that one at about 90% scale, and I have to click on it again to enter it.  Why is it doing this, and is there a way to make it just switch to the correct desktop?
[22:11] <robin0800> TehAndrew, are you certain vsync is your problem?
[22:11] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, they're called workspaces.. try not to say "virtual" desktop.. it can be very misleading
[22:12] <TehAndrew> robin0800: i am, because natty narwhal had the same issue
[22:12] <TehAndrew> robin0800: but for some reason it worked there
[22:12] <TehAndrew> restarting to see if the one in "Hardware Drivers" made any difference
[22:12] <pooky> can anyone recommend a stand alone tray application that autohides?
[22:12] <ubuntu_> hey
[22:12] <ubuntu_> i have a question...can me somebody help? When I install xubuntu 10.10...can i then update to ubuntu 11.10?
[22:12] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yahoo: ?  The name virtual desktop dates back to the Sun window manager.  What makes it confusing?
[22:13] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, vmware /virtual box..
[22:13] <bazhang> ubuntu_, with 11.04 in between
[22:13] <akira__> is brasero the only burning utility thats automatically installed? and can it burn iso images? and if so will it actually burn? as the reviews are not too good
[22:13] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, virtualization is the big thing these days..
[22:13] <robin0800> TehAndrew, you didn't say that...... well that's called a regression bug you should file it
[22:13] <Gentoo64> akira__: yes it does isos. its good
[22:13] <phiscibe> theoraticaly you can upgrade ubuntu_ but its is OFTEN easier to do a clean install
[22:14] <Gentoo64> akira__: theres a few burners but you might as well use brasero with gnome
[22:14] <virusz> need help with usb dongle
[22:14] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yahoo: ok, so is there a way to get more than 4 workspaces, spaces, or desktops (whatever you wish to call them), and to get ubuntu to jump into the workspace  I click on instead of showing me that weird preview?
[22:14] <phiscibe> ive been wathing all the bugs with this release, lots of frutration, ive made a blog for the ones ive ran into with some fixes http://kubuntu-experince.blogspot.com/
[22:14] <akira__> ok- is there any recommendation for downloading a different version of ubuntu as this 11.1 isn't working out for me?  and brasero with gnome? what does that mean?
[22:14] <alejandro__> Hey
[22:14] <Gentoo64> akira__: just fits in with gnome basically
[22:15] <akira__> im not sure what gnome is
[22:15] <akira__> :P
[22:15] <Gentoo64> akira__: ubuntu 10.10 is a decent one
[22:15] <joar> does anyone know how to make the terminal go forward/backward a word with CTRL+LARROW/RARROW? I had the functionality but it disappeared for some unknown reason.
[22:15] <akira__> ok ty
[22:15] <new-ubuntu> o, new version.. no screen savers ?
[22:15] <joar> now it just inserts ;5D
[22:15] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, don't say I'm calling them this. This is what gnome and kde call them.. Workspaces.. I'm not making up the vocabulary .. so don't argue with me onthis thanks..
[22:15] <Nazosan> Guess I have another question, but this one is probably a lot more Xubuntu specific (#Xubuntu seems to be dead atm).  How can I get my resolution and mouse settings on the login screen?  Atm it's using some ridiculously low 4:3 resolution stretched out across my 16:9 monitor and the default mouse settings don't get along well with the DPI increase I'm using.
[22:16] <alejandro__> Just wanted to spread the word that if people are having issues with mouse not doing mouse clicks it is because Unity does not like Xmodmap tweaks. Mostly left handed guys will have this issue.
[22:16] <armence> Hello all. I am trying to configure xmonad+gnome2 on ubuntu 11.10 and I cannot get it to work. I get an error: "xmonad failed to load" (or something similar) whenever I try to login... Can I get some help with the configuration?
[22:16] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yagoo: whatever you wish to call them is fine.  I'm not asking about vocabulary.  I'm asking about how to alter their behavior.
[22:17] <ben_q> hey guys, I just updated to 11.10 and am using the new unity desktop for the first time. unfortunately the launcher on the left and the menu top right disappeared and are still gone after a restart
[22:17] <th__> if a quide tells me to do a command like this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:geod/ppa-geod. what is the address for that repo?
[22:17] <new-ubuntu> 11.10, can I change it to classic?, can i set wallpaper, can i disable guest.., can i assign goups to users?
[22:17] <ben_q> also my hotkeys to switch to other desktops are gone
[22:17] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, Gnome desktop is Ubuntu's default desktop.  If you say virtual desktop.. fine.. just don't tell others to follow your own vocabulary because i'm not.
[22:17] <new-ubuntu> sorry not set wallpaper, i mean screen saver
[22:17] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, you're still very new to linux I see.. So learn from the others. Thanks.
[22:17] <Gentoo64> new-ubuntu: you can do all of those. not sure about classic in 11.10
[22:17] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yahoo: I've been running Linux since 1994.
[22:17] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yahoo, that is
[22:18] <alejandro__> Someone experiencing window management laziness in 11.10?
[22:18] <TheAndrew> back, thanks a lot (it worked with the ones from "Hardware Drivers")
[22:18] <Nazosan> No.  My Xfce4 runs very smoothly.  d-:
[22:18] <new-ubuntu> Gentoo64: screensaver, try it...
[22:18] <alejandro__> Okay. Someone experiencing window management laziness in Unity in Ubuntu 11.10?
[22:18] <th__> if a quide tells me to do a command like this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:geod/ppa-geod. what is the address for that repo?
[22:18] <virusz> usb dongle cant be detected in 11.10
[22:18]  * Nazosan whistles innocently
[22:18] <akira__> ok new question- is there a way to download ubuntu 10.10? anywhere? all i see on the site is 11.10
[22:18] <TheAndrew> now i have another problem though; as i'm running an extended desktop (with 2 screens) i have two top panels, can i get rid of the one on the my secondary monitor?
[22:19] <Gentoo64> new-ubuntu: if its a bug theres prob a lod of fixes in the works as its just bee nreleased
[22:19] <Nazosan> Window laziness sounds like one of the flashy effects to me though.
[22:19] <nicofs> yagoo, still there? if using encryption wasn't your advice, then your advice didn't get to me...
[22:19] <MyNickIsLongerTh> ok, so let me try the question again.  Is there a way to get Ubuntu to switch directly to the desktop, workspace, space, or whatever you wish to call it in the workspace manager, rather than showing a 90% preview first?
[22:19] <Dougie187> Has anyone had any issues of full screen wine apps making unity fall behind all windows?
[22:19] <new-ubuntu> Gentoo64: no menu for it
[22:19] <alejandro__> It's a bit annoying...
[22:20] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, you're new to Linux. I doubt u use linux since 1994.
[22:20] <yagoo> lol
[22:20] <Nazosan> As I recall, there's a tweak utility for all the effects being used.  You could probably turn off individual effects.
[22:20] <Nazosan> I played around with all that back when they first started using those effects, but ultimately just ended up disabling the whole thing even back then.
[22:20] <alejandro__> Nazosan: Didn't see it in the control panel...
[22:20] <luca> dear friends I can't see videos avi
[22:21] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: youre on xubuntu though arent you?
[22:21] <luca> this only on ubuntu 11.10
[22:21] <Nazosan> Sorry, I can't remember anything specific.  It has been a long time now (as I recall I had an AGP X850XT-PE)
[22:21] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, i have unix guys 20 years in the unix business saying they know everything.. and get pissed off at the linux learning curve.. saying how linux should be like unix.. so i pretty much know where u come from..
[22:21] <Nazosan> I am Gentoo64
[22:21] <bazhang> luca, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:21] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yahoo: umm.  OK.  That's your choice.
[22:21] <luca> because on ubuntu 11.04 I could see them
[22:21] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: thats different to unity
[22:21] <Nazosan> I'm talking about way back when they first did that there was such a program at least
[22:21] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yagoo: Ummm...OK.
[22:21] <Nazosan> I think it wasn't even "Unity" back then but something else.
[22:22] <Nazosan> Surely Unity has such a configuration though?
[22:22] <alejandro__> Just wanted to spread the word that if people are having issues with mouse not doing mouse clicks it is because Unity does not like Xmodmap tweaks. Mostly left handed guys will have this issue.
[22:22] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, you did not use Linux since 1994. I don't have to pretend everything you say sounds smart.
[22:22] <Grievre> How do I report bugs/misinformation on help.ubuntu.org?
[22:22] <yagoo> eh
[22:22] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yagoo: I've not claimed to know everything.  I've asked a question.  Do you know the answer?  If not, it's not productive to guess how long I've been using what OS or what I know about Linux
[22:22] <bazhang> yagoo, please stop with that. MyNickIsLongerTh you too
[22:22] <luca> bazhang: these packages are already installed
[22:22] <Grievre> Specifically: The instructions for building USB installers are somewhat incorrect
[22:22] <onryo> hiexpo, on one of my machines I am running Ubuntu 10.10 I never upgraded it since I am a Gnome fan. Since I have 3x24" screens and code a lot I need this environment. Does the new Ubuntu fully let you use Gnome with panels etc?
[22:23] <luca> I see a green screen
[22:23]  * alejandro__ likes Unity/Ubuntu 11.10.
[22:23] <luca> I installed also the drivers
[22:23] <Nazosan> Anyway, all that stuff aside, does anyone know how to at least change the resolution of the login screen?
[22:23] <luca> alejandro_: can u see the avi??
[22:23] <Nazosan> *In Xubuntu, sorry
[22:23] <alejandro__> It needs some further working though.
[22:24] <yagoo> Nazosan, that may be in a gdm.conf file or perhaps in /etc/default/ (i can find u the link-- it's easy to do this)
[22:24] <alejandro__> luca: How do you open the avi?
[22:24] <onryo> bazhang Hi, on one of my machines I am running Ubuntu 10.10 I never upgraded it since I am a Gnome fan. Since I have 3x24" screens and code a lot I need this environment. Does the new Ubuntu fully let you use Gnome with panels etc?
[22:24] <Nazosan> Ok, let me take a quick look
[22:24] <a271828> Hi -- how to get latest okular in Ubuntu 10.10?
[22:24] <jatt> onryo: no
[22:24] <Nazosan> I guess it wouldn't be gdm though
[22:24] <luca> with riproduttore multimediale
[22:24] <jatt> onryo: the new gnome is completely different, don't expect it to behave as gnome 2 (with its panels, applets, etc).
[22:24] <luca> alejandro_: how can u open them??
[22:25] <Mike9863> With GNOME Shell, how can I disable the setting where the edges of windows stick to each other a bit when I move them?
[22:25] <alejandro__> luca: what does does the riproduttore multimediale say?
[22:25] <alejandro__> Nevermind the spare does.
[22:25] <Nazosan> Sorry, I'd rather ask a Xubuntu specific question in #Xubuntu, but...  -.-
[22:25] <luca> mediaplayer
[22:25] <archhelpplz> hi
[22:26] <Nazosan> I'm not seeing anything obvious in /etc/defaults so far
[22:26] <alejandro__> luca: What is the error message?
[22:26] <onryo> jatt kind of sad. I must say I am liking Debian wheezy more and more. Really a lot of work to migrate my main to Arch Linux or some other flavor =/
[22:26] <paladinlaw> is there a way to manually removing nvidia drivers from additional drivers without accessing additional drivers
[22:26] <luca> There isn't the error i see the screen green
[22:26] <luca> I caanot se the videos
[22:26] <jatt> onryo: don't give up so quickly :). Yesterday I almost gave up, but know I installed xfce and its working great
[22:26] <luca> cannot
[22:26] <Shirakawasuna> a271828: that might be difficult, as KDE has done a significant version bump since 10.10. In order, try this: 1) Installing the oneiric package for it (deb at packages.ubuntu.com). 2) Compiling it from source (get the source at packages.ubuntu.com). 3) Find a way to upgrade KDE within 10.10, or 4) Update from 10.10 to 11.04, then 11.10 (or reinstall directly with 11.10).
[22:26] <jatt> onryo: so 11.10 is not that bad
[22:27] <archhelpplz> please help me - i have notebook with integrated ati hd4200 card but when i installed proprierary driver the system going to be very slow - i disabled VSync feature
[22:27] <alejandro__> Someone help luca. I am lost.
[22:27] <archhelpplz> but compiz still slow!!!
[22:27] <alejandro__> jatt: 11.10 nice
[22:27] <archhelpplz> its unusable
[22:27] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: remove hte prop driver
[22:27] <luca> everyone can see avi video??
[22:27] <yagoo> Nazosan, i did this long long ago.. gimme a sec
[22:27] <archhelpplz> but then notebook going to off in 2h not in 4,5
[22:27] <new-ubuntu> looks like 11.10 has a lot less OS options
[22:27] <alejandro__> burp
[22:27] <archhelpplz> there power problem
[22:28] <Corgan1> On 11.10, I've pulled out Unity and Unity 2D and installed Gnome-Shell in its stead. I'm noticing a considerable amount of desktop effects employed which are causing performance deterioration in apps and UI. The old visual effects dialogue is gone, so the option to turn off/modify them is gone. Is modifying this as simple as pulling out Compiz, or is there any easy switch for this?
[22:28] <Nazosan> Alright, thanks yagoo
[22:28] <onryo> jatt xfce is really nice and light. I won't install anything that is not pure FOSS. Even for my graphics card. I'll give Ubuntu a spin and see what I think of the upgrade. Thanks for the feedback.
[22:28] <Gentoo64> Corgan1: use another distro
[22:28] <luca> I tried to install gnome shell too
[22:28] <Gentoo64> why install ubuntu then pull out core stuff
[22:28] <luca> maybe this was the error??
[22:29] <yagoo> Nazosan, (i did this *very long ago..i will have to look into 11.10 the way it's sparked)
[22:29] <archhelpplz> any ideas with unity3d and ati?
[22:29] <jiffe1> is there something special I have to do networking wise when considering upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 ?
[22:29] <jiffe1> I just gave it a shot with a test machine and I can't get the network to come up anymore
[22:29] <Stereocaulon> Well, it's getting late here... good day or night everyone. I'm off to bed.
[22:29] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: remove the proprietary driver
[22:29] <Gentoo64> and itll be fast again
[22:29] <jiffe1> its looking for something in /run/network which doesn't exist
[22:30] <Corgan1> Gentoo64: Because I prefer Canonical's managment of it's repositories, and most software developers are rallying around Debian/Ubuntu distros for software dispersement. And there are times where I don't feel like recompiling software.
[22:30] <th__> how i can export a public key from gpg?
[22:30] <Gentoo64> Corgan1: just saying unity etc is core part of it. there are distros with gnome 3 as default and you wont have to mess about
[22:30] <archhelpplz> but how to increase battery life?
[22:31] <dark_eye> archhelpplz: install jupiter
[22:31] <Corgan1> Gentoo64: I don't really want to debate about that. Obviously that's an option. That doesn't answer my question.
[22:31] <Corgan1> Less criticism and more help, please.
[22:31] <yagoo> Nakkel, lightdm replaces gdm--> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM  .. so eventually either u or me can race to the test! :)
[22:32] <Gentoo64> Corgan1: just trying to help. ubuntu is delicate
[22:32] <archhelpplz> it works with ATI?
[22:32] <onryo> Corgan1 have you tried Debian (Wheezy) I might be forced to go down that road for the same reasons. LMDE (Mint) is not bad imho. If you are a programmer and want a blob free FOSS distro I would look at Debian or Arch Linux.
[22:33] <Gentoo64> blob free?
[22:33] <paladinlaw> how do i run with vesa instead of nvidia???
[22:33] <Gentoo64> paladinlaw: why would you want vesa?
[22:33] <robinsch> when I installed ubuntu, ubuntu-backports was checked in update manager. I think it shouldn't be default. Can lead to issues
[22:33] <master> Hello group
[22:33] <Corgan1> onryo: It's coming down, at this point, to what I can do within Ubuntu. I've done one system restore. I need to be productive at this point. The system is useable, but slow. I can't be totally offline any longer.
[22:33] <rickup> I just upgraded today and I am still using gnome classic no effects but I have an AT 3200 that gets recognixes at some other cadr
[22:33] <paladinlaw> Gentoo64, so i can uninstall a nvidia driver that makes me get black screen
[22:34] <Gentoo64> paladinlaw: cant you access the additional driver bit?
[22:34] <onryo> Gentoo64, the kernel of Ubuntu has tons of compiled firmware divers that are not open source. They are known as "blobs".
[22:34] <rickup> so panels are gone ?
[22:34] <Gentoo64> onryo: i know
[22:34] <paladinlaw> Gentoo64, i cant access anything.. im currently running livecd
[22:35] <robinsch> anyone else has oneiric-backports checked bby default on Software Sources -> Updates tab?
[22:35] <Satanaa> Hey, whenever my screen goes to "standby" ( pause screen ) i cant get back to the desktop, i have to restart.. can anyone help me fix this unity wank?
[22:35] <robinsch> i think that can lead to issues
[22:35] <robinsch> on fresh 11.10 install
[22:35] <deebee> !language | Satanaa
[22:35] <gwb> gwb I can't see compiz settings in system settings
[22:35] <master> Any driver gurus in the room?
[22:35] <onryo> Satanaa, try this Ctrl+Alt+print screen+b
[22:35] <yrushi> hello, is there a way to make NuCalc 2.0 work with wine?
[22:36] <Satanaa> deebee, after this long im allowed to use that word :P
[22:36] <onryo> Satanaa, that will reboot your machine.
[22:36] <paladinlaw> how do i run with vesa instead of nvidia???
[22:36] <deebee> Satanaa: no you're not :)
[22:36] <rickup> Satanaa, thats why I am using gnome classic with no effects - otherwise I cant dwith users and as it is I can shut down the machine, it hangs
[22:36] <Satanaa> onryo no i have to restart the machine to get back to the desktop
[22:36] <Satanaa> deebee nah just write a long hatemail to unity devs :P
[22:36] <Titmouse> Hey, how can I switch the titlebar button layout to the left? My in use theme is does have then on the left but doesn't in 11.10. Also there set to be on the left in Ubuntu tweak but still their on the right.
[22:36] <tanzhaeschen> hello, I just installed ubuntu oneiric And my touchpad seems to be reacting very sluggishly. It is fine under windows, so I am sure it is not a hardware problem
[22:36] <Satanaa> my machine is more or less unusable, and i will need to move away from ubuntu, if i cant fix it
[22:37] <Nazosan> BTW, if the person with the sound troubles earlier is still around, I found out how to change the default soundcard PulseAudio uses.
[22:37] <master> I have a ubuntu in a VM that exposes an ensoniq-1371 card.. but the hardware is not recognized or loaded
[22:37] <archhelpplz> what to do with ATI???
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> is there still a gconf-editor in oneiric?
[22:37] <Gentoo64> i might have to try 11.10 in a vm. sounds like a laugh
[22:37] <master> Any clues?
[22:37] <yrushi> hello, I need to run Nucalc 2.0 under wine. does anyone know how to do this?
[22:37] <Satanaa> MonkeyDust install it with apt-get
[22:37] <onryo> Satanaa, Try Ctrl+Alt+F7
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> Satanaa: i use an alternative fork, just informing
[22:37] <dark_eye> Gentoo64: What can you except from old kernel version which ubuntu uses?
[22:38] <master> lsmod shows it loaded.. but alsa complains about no cards or drivers
[22:38] <gwb> gwb I'm getting a flood of errors from apt-get when I try to install flashplugin-downloader
[22:38] <Corgan1> onryo & Gentoo64: It's getting to the point where Ubuntu might be pushing me away. That's frustrating to deal with, as I really adored it for so long. i'm just trying to give it one last try--trying to fix these graphical issues.
[22:38] <paladinlaw> how do i run with vesa instead of nvidia??? can i just change it from nvidia to vesa in xorg.conf_
[22:38] <jmcantrell> where is the information on the current desktop wallpaper stored?
[22:38] <Satanaa> onryo ?
[22:39] <gwb> gwb it eventually gives up with a message about too many redirections
[22:39] <onryo> paladinlaw, easy. Don't install the Nvidia drivers.
[22:39] <tanzhaeschen> anyone know, what the problem with the touchpad could be? As far as I know, it is an elantech touchpad.
[22:39] <Satanaa> onryo want me to change TTY ?
[22:39] <paladinlaw> onryo, too late... need vesa now to uninstall it
[22:39] <PShop2> guys help
[22:39] <PShop2> My Ubuntu screen is too big
[22:39] <PShop2> how do I fix it?
[22:39] <SetiAmon> Hmm it seems Oss4 doesn't work on 11.10.This is a problem as I have always had nothing but staticy distortion with pulseaudio/alsa.
[22:39] <PShop2> the icons are huge compared to a normal desktop?
[22:39] <Gentoo64> Corgan1: I wasn't trying to putt you off ubuntu. just saying you might find another distro better if you want plain gnome 3 rather than tweaking about removing stuff when ubuntu breaks so easy, by default
[22:39] <archhelpplz> when first update will come?
[22:39] <archhelpplz> ubuntu 11.10
[22:39] <PShop2> I tried fixing the resolution with my graphics card manager
[22:39] <PShop2> no avail?
[22:39] <SetiAmon> has anyone here overcome staticy distorted sound with pulse?like echos and such ? I turned pcm down etc
[22:40] <master> All this Soundcard snafu started when I upgraded to Natty narwhal
[22:40] <PShop2> Using Ubuntu 11.10
[22:40] <Satanaa> I might just give up and move to Crunch Bang
[22:40] <master> It worked perfectly before that
[22:40] <Corgan1> Gentoo64: What are your recommendations?
[22:40] <Nazosan> PulseAudio seems to work fine here
[22:40] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: check pcm level
[22:40] <Gentoo64> maybe its above normal
[22:40] <Gentoo64> above 100
[22:40] <luca> I'm uninstalling gnome shell
[22:40] <Nazosan> Both on my onboard SPU and now, thankfully on my Alien DAC
[22:40] <onryo> Satannaa you want to use the last windows manager in your list. I have 6 desktops so in my case it is F7 to get back to my UI. I don't know how many desktops you have but it the Fx would be the last one for you.
[22:40] <Titmouse> My button layout prior to updating to 11.10 appears on the right. Even though my theme is set to the left and in ubuntu tweak it's also set to the left yet they still appear on the right (except in chrome then they do appear on the left)?
[22:40] <Gentoo64> Corgan1: fedora comes with gnome3
[22:40] <master> I think it's missing kernel support
[22:40] <Satanaa> anyways i need a toast.. if i quit its cuz ubuntu forces me to restart
[22:41] <Corgan1> Gentoo64: Again, part of the reason I'm in Ubuntu territory is the repository handling and the debian under structure.
[22:41] <tanzhaeschen> please anyone? my touchpad reacts so sluggishly, that it is almost unusable
[22:41] <Shirakawasuna> is gnome 3 still unsupported?
[22:41] <SetiAmon> Gentoo64:  yeah i did the pcm down etc.even way down its still the same
[22:41] <onryo> master, you should see under /usr/src the source code
[22:41] <archhelpplz> My sincerest apologies over the confusion with this, it was a good
[22:41] <archhelpplz> fix, but breaks of the ABI breaks there was some confusion caused. The
[22:41] <archhelpplz> non-ABI breaking fix will be in the next SRU.
[22:41] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: not sure. i use plain alsa never had static noise
[22:41] <deebee> tanzhaeschen: Has it always been that way, or have you done anything recently that may have caused it?
[22:41] <luca> 11.10 is based on gnome 3 but i installed gnome shell
[22:41] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:42] <luca> now i'm uninstalling gnome shell
[22:42] <SetiAmon> Gentoo how do i use the plain alsa driver?
[22:42] <nicofs> Can someone help me debug my wifi connection? I am connected, there is reception - but the internet is not stable... for a short period i can ping google in about 40ms and then without reason it shoots up to beyond 3000ms and then back and so on... i just don't know what's wrong...
[22:42] <tim_irssi> hi all, I just upgraded to 11.10, but after I login the sidebar on the left removes itself and doesn't come back... any idea how to fix that?
[22:42] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: just saying, i never needed oss
[22:42] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: do you use windows? does it do it on that?
[22:42] <Nazosan> Hmm...  I just tried OSS and it didn't work in DeadBeef at least.
[22:42] <master> No source code or anyelse in /usr/src
[22:42] <tanzhaeschen> deebee: It is a new Laptop. I just installed Ubuntu.
[22:43] <SetiAmon> I completly wiped windows off
[22:43] <jmcantrell> where is the information on the current desktop wallpaper stored?
[22:43] <hagus> What is does ubuntu rename the apache httpd binary to?
[22:43] <deebee> tanzhaeschen: What's the make/model?
[22:43] <master> Just Kconfig and Makefile
[22:43] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: maybe its hardware? i have no clue
[22:43] <SetiAmon> no windows it never did it,and oss4 worked flawlessly but now on 11.10 oss4 doesn't work
[22:43] <hagus> What does ubuntu rename the apache httpd binary to?
[22:43] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: prob removed from kernel
[22:43] <onryo> Corgan1, I totally agree. Ubuntu has become the new trendy Mac. Looks like it was made for a tablet. Maybe not the best distro for a so called power user =/
[22:43] <Satanaa> ah i got back before it went bonkers
[22:43] <SetiAmon> its X-FI it has sound out of the box but its staticy cracking and has echos
[22:43] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: again im not sure
[22:43] <Nazosan> Interestingly, if I select OSS as an output I get nothing.
[22:43]  * Nazosan never uses OSS though
[22:43] <Gentoo64> oss is old
[22:43] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:44] <hagus> What does ubuntu rename the httpd binary to?
[22:44] <tanzhaeschen> deebee: The Laptop is a Samsung NP-RC730. The Touchpad is an elantech touchpad. On the same Model (but different laptop) it works perfectly under gentoo.
[22:44] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:44] <SetiAmon> oss4 not oss3
[22:44] <Nazosan> Yeah, isn't OSS officialy depreciated?
[22:44] <hagus> What does ubuntu call the httpd binary?
[22:44] <master> I've tried every option on the Ubuntu soundcardproblem wiki page
[22:44] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:44] <jmcantrell> where is the information on the current desktop wallpaper stored?
[22:44] <SetiAmon> yeha
[22:44] <SetiAmon> i went threw the faqs also
[22:45] <onryo> master, your using PA (Pulse Audio) I am guessing? What is the problem you are having?
[22:45] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: in the kernel its marked as deprecated
[22:45] <robin0800> jmcantrell, you can find it in dconf
[22:45] <Satanaa> ubuntu devs need to have normal machines.. then they can sit with the issues too and they dont release something as undone as this
[22:45] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:45] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:46] <master> No sound cards found
[22:46] <Nazosan> Their machines are special?
[22:46] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: whats sru?
[22:46] <SetiAmon> sound hasn't worked right since jaunty on my system
[22:46] <master> No drivers detected
[22:46] <jmcantrell> robin0800: dconf? is that similar to gconf?
[22:46] <archhelpplz> i dunno, like blah blah update
[22:46] <onryo> master what sound card do you use?
[22:46] <master> lspci shows a sound card
[22:46] <archhelpplz> waiting for bugfix
[22:46] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: you keep spamming it yet you dono what it is lol
[22:46] <archhelpplz> maintainer told that it will included in SRU
[22:46] <master> Ensoniq 1371 - soundblaster compatible
[22:46] <PShop2> Why do my graphics look huge?
[22:46] <tanzhaeschen> deebee: do you have any hints?
[22:46] <Gentoo64> PShop2: change res?
[22:47] <Gentoo64> PShop2: or do you mean console?
[22:47] <robin0800> jmcantrell, yes gconf settings are being migrated to dconf
[22:47]  * Nazosan hopes yagoo didn't get lost in the Internet
[22:47] <iandalton> I was upgrading to 11.10, and someone came by and tried to use the PC, and froze it. Now I can only boot in Recovery Mode. How can I fix it?
[22:47] <deebee> tanzhaeschen: no, just looking to see if it's an issue that's been mentioned before
[22:47] <PShop2> change res
[22:47] <jmcantrell> robin0800: i see. how do i access dconf?
[22:47] <dassie> The task bar on the left side of the screen not always showing when you press your cursor against it...is that a bug or am I doing something wrong? Oneiric btw...
[22:48] <robin0800> jmcantrell, all the new unity stuff is in dconf
[22:48] <Gentoo64> im giving 11.10 a go in vm now
[22:48] <master> I modprobed the card and it shows in lsmod ... but it's like it's not really there
[22:48] <onryo> master what do you see if you try this cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:48] <yeats> dassie: I've seen that too - appears to be intermittent
[22:48] <Nazosan> Oh, btw, robin0800, the official program to configure settings like which soundcard is default in PulseAudio is "pavucontrol"
[22:48] <archhelpplz> i hate almost all linux distributions
[22:48] <nicofs> Is there a tool to monitor Wifi signal strength?
[22:49] <master> --no soundcards--
[22:49] <dassie> yeats: thought so...same on my end. was natty this buggy when it first came out? I can't remember
[22:49] <archhelpplz> no soundcards noone dono wtf is SRU and when i will come
[22:49] <onryo> master OK well we know that. What card are you using?
[22:49] <archhelpplz> going to ms store then
[22:49] <master> Ensoniq 1371
[22:49] <yeats> dassie: I didn't use Unity in Natty so I don't know ;-)
[22:49] <robin0800> jmcantrell, you have to install it as you do gconf now days
[22:50] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: because your probably a fresh win user. youll learn
[22:50] <master> I have done modprobe snd-ens1371 but no modules appear
[22:50] <dancr> Hello guys. I have a Toshiba A665. I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10.  The touchpad worked fine, but now after a reboot its dead. I tried some solutions on the web and none work. Particularly, I installed synaptics, and it doesnt recognize my touchpad. I also went to setting and the mouse and touchpad only shows a tab for the mouse, not the touchpad. Any suggestions?
[22:50] <dassie> yeats: well it's not working about 80% of the time here =/
[22:50] <enter> jmcantrell : you can install dconf-tools
[22:50] <Raven187> question: what is wrong with banshee? take long time to queue from a server, and locks up after playing a few songs from queue. never used to do this .
[22:50] <enter> and then run dconf-editor
[22:51] <archhelpplz> i use linux on servers, i code in vim. but linux ends for me when X starts
[22:51] <onryo> master OK if I remember back in the day that card did have some issues.
[22:51] <Nazosan> I don't suppose anyone else might have any clues as to how to set the resolution of the login screen in Xubuntu?
[22:51] <tanzhaeschen> deebee: it is just, that I have to press reallz hard on the pad for it to recognize anz movement
[22:51] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: linux, or ubuntu 11.10?
[22:51] <master> It worked well in Mearcat
[22:51] <archhelpplz> i am a bit stupid and i bought hardware w/o lookin in supported hardware list
[22:51] <archhelpplz> linux
[22:51] <jmcantrell> robin0800, enter: do you know where in dconf, the wallpaper info is stored. dconf-editor does not appear to have a search feature
[22:51] <master> I never had a problem til I upgraded to Natty
[22:51] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: ive never had x problems
[22:51] <yagoo> Nakkel, this doesn't have it-- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM .. I'm suspecting u can set the resolution with the old X resources.. or use the "Default" in xorg.conf
[22:52] <dancr> any suggestions? this is driving me crazy hehehe
[22:52] <archhelpplz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/763005
[22:52] <archhelpplz> i've disable vsync
[22:52] <archhelpplz> and it stil SLOW
[22:52] <yagoo> Nazosan, i meant.. ^
[22:52] <onryo> master do you see anything if you try lsmod | grep Ensoniq
[22:52] <master> I did a find in /lib/modules/$(uname -r) for "*1371*" and nothing was returned
[22:52] <archhelpplz> five years ago the situation was better then now! it's regress
[22:53] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: vsync wont help the speed. better enabed for desktop imo
[22:53] <Nazosan> I don't even want to think of messing with the old X resources -.-  I'll see what I can figure out from that page
[22:53] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: what gpu and driver?
[22:53] <master> Nope
[22:53] <archhelpplz> HD 4200
[22:53] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: did you try uninstalling the prop driver?
[22:53] <Gentoo64> you said it worked fine wthout it
[22:53] <onryo> masen, seems like you are going to have to compile the diver then. Weird that Ubuntu of all distros would not have that firmware.
[22:53] <archhelpplz> but my battery life decreased in twice!
[22:53] <troii> hey
[22:53] <robin0800> jmcantrell, org/gnome/background
[22:53] <archhelpplz> yep
[22:53] <yagoo> Nazosan, it's basically 1 line u have to change somewher.. u can try the 'default' in xorg.conf
[22:53] <archhelpplz> i've uninstalled
[22:53] <troii> will ubuntu 64x run onmy laptop?
[22:53] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: and its still bad?
[22:53] <Raven187> guess i'll try another channel
[22:54] <troii> i mean x64
[22:54] <archhelpplz> not, it works good
[22:54] <Gentoo64> troii: if it has 64 bit cpu yes
[22:54] <archhelpplz> but VERY BIG power problems
[22:54] <Nazosan> the problem is, there isn't such a line in my xorg.conf.  In fact, there's hardly anything in there.
[22:54] <troii> hmm
[22:54] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: whats the matter then?
[22:54] <troii> how to check that?
[22:54] <evan_> Hi all, I've install ubuntu on a 200gb partition (/dev/sda3) yet ubuntu is limited to only 20gb - i think i selected this in the installation, how can i change it so that ubuntu uses all 200gb of the partition? Here is the output of "df -h":
[22:54] <evan_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:54] <evan_> /dev/loop0             19G   18G  138M 100% /
[22:54] <evan_> udev                  1.4G  4.0K  1.4G   1% /dev
[22:54] <evan_> tmpfs                 551M  860K  550M   1% /run
[22:54] <FloodBot1> evan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: its prob the kernel power stuff
[22:54] <evan_> none                  5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[22:54] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: has got worse with more recent kernels
[22:54] <archhelpplz> bug in compiz / X.. in 10.04 LTS compiz is ok
[22:54] <phiscibe> Naz, X doesn't use xorg.conf like it used to
[22:54] <troii> Gentoo64 how to check that pls?
[22:55] <Gentoo64> troii: is it a proper laptop? modern? whats it called?
[22:55] <phiscibe> its a stub, it read several .conf files at startup and makes its own mind up
[22:55] <Nazosan> I figured as much phiscibe, lol
[22:55] <phiscibe> yup
[22:55] <troii> acer extensa 5220
[22:55] <Nazosan> it's getting a bit messy to change simple things these days though
[22:55] <yeats> troii: what OS are you running?
[22:55] <phiscibe> yeah but we love
[22:55] <phiscibe> it
[22:55] <osmosis> Im getting a total fail when installing 11.10 on my Samsung Series 9.  Any ideas?
[22:55] <Nazosan> who is "we"?
[22:55] <Gentoo64> troii: id use 32 bit for that one
[22:55] <jmcantrell> is crontab still the preferred way to schedule things?
[22:56] <troii> 2.99 gb ram, im running xp atm ,but i want to switch
[22:56] <Nazosan> Anyway, I guess I have to figure out what configuration file it's actually using or something
[22:56] <troii> ok
[22:56] <yagoo> Nazosan, if u do -->lighdm --help -- u'll see that unity-greeter may be used..
[22:56] <phiscibe> use geeks...nerds, that love computers like a girlfriend or a boy fired, why do you think we put up with distro upgrades?  its a love affair and we are crazy
[22:56] <phiscibe> us
[22:56] <yagoo> Nazosan, i can't find any documentation --(there's no documentation for this greeter)
[22:56] <Nazosan> No Unity here at least
[22:56] <phiscibe> the greeter changed
[22:57] <yagoo> Nazosan, do u have /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf ?
[22:57] <Nazosan> No, but this is Xubuntu
[22:57] <troii> thanks bye
[22:57] <robin0800> Nazosan, you can still put it in xorg.conf it will read it
[22:57] <phiscibe> ive been tracking common bugs, got ablog  look at the lins for teh relase notes http://kubuntu-experince.blogspot.com/
[22:57] <yagoo> Nazosan, well um.. u should of said Xubuntu.. i don't know what xubuntu is using.
[22:57] <enter> can anyone help me to sign in on ubuntu one under proxy network
[22:58] <Nazosan> robin0800, maybe, but I haven't a clue what to actually put in.  Manually configuring resolutions in the X configurations was never my forte
[22:58]  * Nazosan DID say Xubuntu -.-
[22:58] <enter> I am trying everything but still no luck
[22:58] <Mike9863> With GNOME Shell, how can I disable the setting where the edges of windows stick to each other a bit when I move them?
[22:58] <phiscibe> if u got unity and kubuntu u got something strange, kubuntu uses plasma desktop
[22:59] <Takyoji[laptop]> Would the kernel ever panic from system overheating?
[22:59] <Nazosan> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf says my greeter is "lightdm-gtk-greeter"
[22:59] <phiscibe> it could from heat Takyoji[laptop] or possible show taint messages in log
[22:59] <Nazosan> the configuration for lightdm-gtk-greeter doesn't seem to have a configuration setting though
[22:59] <deebee> Takyoji[laptop]: overheating could cause issues which in turn might cause a kernel panic, yes
[23:00] <phiscibe> get a tempature monitor and let it run and log for awhile
[23:00] <Nazosan> (rather it doesn't have a setting for resolution)
[23:00] <Takyoji[laptop]> it says 'not tainted' as an aside
[23:00] <yagoo> Nazosan, u can make a default xorg.conf file (X -configure)  , do a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf (like mv xorg.conf xorg.con_bak0), then copy ~/xorg.org.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:00] <yagoo> Nazosan, u dont need to restart X yet.. u can pastebin so i can tell u where to place the default line
[23:01] <Fishscene> Hello all. I'm having GREAT difficulty getting vmware tools to install/work in 11.10.
[23:01] <master> I run ubuntu in a windows vmware box
[23:01] <Nazosan> well, I can't run X -configure while X is running
[23:01] <Takyoji[laptop]> BUG: Warning at kernel/panic.c:137/panic() (Not tainted)
[23:01] <Fishscene> Issues are: VMware tools CD won't mount (or mounts temporarily, then unmounts), and the networking stack keeps crashing
[23:01] <yagoo> Takyoji[laptop], some processor chips have built-in protection so that when they overheat they command a system shutdown
[23:02] <yagoo> Nazosan, try X -- :1 -configure , or X :1 -configure
[23:02] <yeats> Fishscene: probably should ask in #vmware
[23:02] <Nazosan> as for pasting, there's not much to paste.  It has a "screen" section that just defines the default depth for the default screen and tells it to load a glx module
[23:02] <master> Fishscene, yeah. I had to log in as root for the autoloader to work
[23:02] <master> automounter
[23:02] <yagoo> Nazosan, pastebin the newly generated xorg.conf.new
[23:02] <robin0800> Nazosan, think resolutions are now xrandr now
[23:03] <Nazosan> It informed me that it couldn't load the module "vmwgfx" or FireGL's DRM library and failed to produce a new xorg.conf
[23:03]  * yagoo wants to ask on behalf of Nazosan, a way to set resolution for the login greeter
[23:03] <SinnerNyx> can I place routes directly in /etc/network/interfaces?
[23:03] <dibs> Im upgrading and am at the "Remove obsolete packages" screen. Should I remove them or will I risk things breaking?
[23:04] <yagoo> Nazosan, what about in your user x session, can you get a good resolution?
[23:04] <yeats> dibs: it should be safe
[23:04] <Takyoji[laptop]> Symptoms are: system boots/runs, then a kernel panic, then the VGA display slowly gets distorted for like 10 seconds, then it just completely shuts down.
[23:04] <robinsch> anyone else get error when they try to launch gnome control center?
[23:04] <Nazosan> Well, in the user session I was able to run the configuration and set it to native.  It just didn't apply it to the login screen.
[23:04] <robinsch> gnome-control-center users-account
[23:04] <Nazosan> so it's using a per-user setting basically.
[23:04] <robinsch> does that work for anyone?
[23:04] <yeats> Takyoji[laptop]: check /var/log/syslog for any messages preceding the panic
[23:04] <master> Routes on multicard machines are really hard to get to setup permanently
[23:04] <Takyoji[laptop]> I've even had inelligible text at the BIOS screen, with things being offset, or wrong
[23:04] <Nazosan> Why on earth you'd want a per-user resolution setting _by default_ is beyond me.  (I can think of a rare few cases it might be good, but it shouldn't be default IMO)
[23:05] <dibs> yeats: almost there
[23:05] <yeats> Takyoji[laptop]: then that's almost certainly a hardware problem, not OS-related
[23:05] <Nazosan> Anyway, I'm guessing that nothing short of actually closing down X will do for this test.
[23:06] <Takyoji[laptop]> as I've been thinking; hence I resorted to asking if the kernel panics upon overheating
[23:06] <hanasaki> trying to login with gnome3 on 11.10 but it keeps going back to unity
[23:06] <robinsch> how can I get alt+tab to work properly?
[23:06] <Takyoji[laptop]> and syslog isn't available in this case; it's CentOS-based, I know it's the wrong place to ask in a way. xP
[23:06] <yeats> dibs: great!  took less time than you thought ;-)
[23:07] <coolnick> hi, my network connection do not work properly
[23:07] <robinsch> it won't show byobu terminal in alt + tab
[23:07] <coolnick> I am in ubuntu 11.10
[23:07] <dibs> yeats: yeah totally, Just hoping it goes smoothly. I lost everything when upgrading to natty and was not impressed.
[23:07] <robinsch> very annoying
[23:07] <Nazosan> Hmm...  what's the best console chat client?  I used to use BitchX, but it seems like it's officially considered to be outdated and exploitable or something?
[23:07] <yagoo> Nazosan, irssi
[23:07] <Nazosan> Ok, I'll just stick that in a screen
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> Nazosan: irssi rules
[23:08] <Fishscene> Quite frankly, I'm disappointed with the lack of documentation of the problem I'm having.
[23:08] <yagoo> Nazosan, gu can also see a list of alternatives- > google "list of irc site:wikipedia.org"
[23:08] <dibs> yeats: Yay! restart. See you guys on the other side!
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> Nazosan: use buyobu, it's an extension of screen
[23:08] <yeats> Takyoji[laptop]: definitely the wrong place to ask, but still almost certainly not OS-related anyway
[23:08] <Nazosan> I already do MonkeyDust.  I love it.
[23:08] <coolnick> I have the ranlink rt5390  network card
[23:08] <Nazosan> Love it to death.  Especially how it can set itself to run when you log in so everything is in a screen.
[23:08] <Nazosan> anyway, brb
[23:09] <robinsch> What does this mean?
[23:09] <robinsch> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:  msr-tools libaio1 seabios cpu-checker vgabios
[23:09] <phiscibe> ircII or something like that isok
[23:09] <phiscibe> or consule
[23:09] <coolnick> i have no idea what to do
[23:09] <phiscibe> for consolue
[23:09] <robinsch> HELP
[23:10] <yeats> robinsch: it means that those packages were installed for a package that has gotten removed - 'sudo apt-get autoremove' will get rid of them
[23:10] <phiscibe> that is not a error robin, just a message telling they are safe to unistall
[23:11] <robinsch> ok
[23:11] <Nazosan> Looks like irssi will work fine.
[23:12] <Nazosan> now here's a question...  How do I actually kill X?  Since it uses a service for the login screen...
[23:12] <robinsch> I installed Virtual Machine Manager thinking that it was like vmware but it wasn't
[23:12] <robinsch> disappointed
[23:12] <Fishscene> What's the name of the linux firewall?
[23:12] <Fishscene> I need to remove that god-forsaken peace of crap
[23:13] <luca> is it possible to install gnome core without gdm??
[23:13] <mingdao_home> Fishscene: iptables
[23:13] <Fishscene> ok thanks
[23:13] <yeats> !ufw | Fishscene
[23:13] <luca> some experts suggest to install gnome shell instead of unity
[23:13] <yeats> !gnome3 | luca
[23:13] <Fishscene> ok thanks guys. Sorry. I'm a bit frustrated that I'm locked out of my server files.
[23:14] <luca> Ubuntu 11.10 is not Natty!!!
[23:14] <yeats> luca: correct
[23:14] <Onlyodin> When was 11.10 released?
[23:14] <coolnick> is it oneric?
[23:14] <robin0800> Nazosan, its in keyboard and then options to set ctr+alt+delete
[23:14] <luca> can u understand my question?
[23:14] <SetiAmon> a few days ago
[23:14] <SetiAmon> but everythings broke
[23:14] <deebee> SinnerNyx: Fishscene: Am I understanding correctly? You can't install VMware Tools because the disk won't mount, and you can't download them because the network won't work?
[23:14] <lilrubyprog> Hey
[23:14] <master> I think 11.05 is natty
[23:14] <master> 11.04
[23:15] <SetiAmon> !sound
[23:15] <Dyrcona> 11.10 is Oneiric. I just got the upgrade today.
[23:15] <yeats> luca: read what ubottu send more carefully
[23:15] <Nazosan> Er, what?  ctrl+alt+delete would just reboot.  You mean backspace?  The problem is, it will just restart.
[23:15] <yeats> s/send/sent/
[23:15] <coolnick> i am having problems with the wirelees network
[23:15] <coolnick> what do i do?
[23:15] <SinnerNyx> deebee, nope. i dont know what's happening :p
[23:15] <Fishscene> deebee: The network in 11.10 crashes at random, a filesystem check is triggered every time I boot, and I can NOT get in remotely with SSH, despite removing IPTables and not having ufw installed.
[23:15] <Nazosan> Hmm..  Thena gain, even ctrl+alt+backspace seems to do nothing
[23:15] <luca> I've already installed gnome-shell package
[23:16] <deebee> SinnerNyx: Sorry, meant for Fishscene.
[23:16] <Fishscene> oh, I forgot to mention, it can't connect to the network or something like that for 60 seconds, which adds to the boot time.
[23:16] <master> I think the xserver disables all interface but loop
[23:16] <jgcampbell300> can anyone point me to a good guide to install ubuntu server , apache, dns, php, cgi, ispconfig 3 etc...
[23:16] <yeats> luca: I do not understand what you were asking then
[23:16] <phiscibe> coolnick, ive been catalaloging bugs an a blog, how fun..,.http://kubuntu-experince.blogspot.com/  but there is one bug listed there about dbus and it effects networking
[23:16] <jgcampbell300> i been googleing this for hours getting no where
[23:16] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: ctl+alt+del will first kill X
[23:16] <bazhang> phiscibe, no advertising here
[23:16] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: try it :-)
[23:16] <Nazosan> alright, I'll try that.    No reboot, but no killed X either
[23:17] <visionvi1us> g_evening
[23:17] <luca> the question was: is it possible to install gnome core package without
[23:17] <luca> gdm?
[23:17] <phiscibe> there is new scheme for where var and run go and if it gets messed up in the upgrade dbus might not run connreclty and thenrefore network manger dies
[23:17] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: here it gives me a logout dialog box
[23:17] <richthegeek> hi - I just installed 11.10 (from fresh, not an upgrade) and Unity will *not* log in
[23:17] <master> I'm using unity and xdm
[23:17] <Nazosan> Well, I'm trying to kill the service used for the login screen since it uses X
[23:17] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: I'm not a normal Ubuntu user, but other distros cause that to kill X
[23:18] <deebee> Fishscene: and this is all on Ubuntu within a VM?
[23:18] <tdebat> Hi I'm running 11.10 on VirtualBox. When I start an application I can see the title bar but there is no window. So I can see the Firefox menu bar but not a Firefox browser window. Any thoughts on what I need to change to be able to see the window?
[23:18] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: well, I'm not  a DE user, either
[23:18] <Fishscene> deebee: Yes.
[23:18] <phiscibe> rich, i have nice list of know problems and solutions but i cant show it too you soory
[23:18] <qin> luca: you can disable gdm, or remove
[23:18] <Nazosan> once logged in maybe ctrl+alt+delete does that, but on the login screen it does nothing
[23:18] <deebee> Fishscene: had it been working previously, or is it a fresh install that's always been broken?
[23:18] <luca> if you remove gdm you have to remove also gnome-core package
[23:18] <phiscibe> been building the list for days, o well
[23:18] <visionvi1us> somebody got an idea why my adhoc wifi network is just working without encryption?
[23:18] <Fishscene> Everything was working perfectly fine until I upgraded to 11.10.
[23:18] <master> Ctrl-Alt-F1 takes you to a terminal .. at least it should
[23:19] <Nazosan> I may have to reboot and force it to init level 2 or something.  Anyone know the "cheat code" for Ubuntu doing that?
[23:19] <akira__> phiscibe want another bug report for your blog?
[23:19] <richthegeek> phiscibe: what?
[23:19] <yeats> luca: so I guess that answers your question
[23:19] <qin> luca: I ment from upstart.
[23:19] <Fishscene> Everything seemed to be fine, so I committed the VM, but it seems I messed up big time.
[23:19] <keith_linux123> Hey , is their away to link the unity search into google
[23:19] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT START + SELECT
[23:19] <phiscibe> akira__:  u are a destoryer of unixezzz
[23:19] <Nazosan> -.-
[23:19] <luca> qin: how?
[23:19] <osmosis> ubuntu 11.10 wont install on this laptop, so i guess Im going to have to sell the laptop
[23:19] <bazhang> Gentoo64, thats not helpful
[23:19] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: ctl+alt+f1 will give you another console; ctl+alt+f7 will bring you back
[23:19] <Nazosan> Hey, it wasn't _MY_ idea for them to start calling boot parameters "cheat codes" -.-
[23:19] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: I don't understand exactly where you are and what you want to do
[23:20] <Nazosan> mingdao_home: that's all well and good, but I need to kill X
[23:20] <akira__> x.x NIN great destroyer
[23:20] <luca> yeats: it's not answer my question because i don't know if it's better only unity only gnome shell or both
[23:20] <master> Ctrl-Alt-F1 ... login as root and kill X
[23:20] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: go to another console, issue "ps aux | grep X" and kill the pid
[23:20] <qin> luca: sudo service gdm stop; (to stop) then start xserver and gnome by startx or xinit
[23:20] <richthegeek> phiscibe: you mentioned a list of known issues - if you have such a list just link it instead of being sarcy
[23:20] <bazhang> mingdao_home, thats not the correct way
[23:20] <robin0800> Nazosan, its not set by default you have to set it
[23:20] <SetiAmon> Is there more update place i can get help
[23:20] <Gentoo64> osmosis: what?
[23:21] <Nazosan> haven't ever tried that have you mingdao_home?
[23:21] <SetiAmon> all the sound faqs are useless
[23:21] <mingdao_home> bazhang: then tell Nazosan the correct way
[23:21] <Nazosan> the problem is, they use a service now that will restart if killed
[23:21] <yeats> luca: you will only learn which you prefer by trying each one - which is not really a support issue
[23:21] <luca> qin: luca@luca-Satellite-A200:~$ sudo service gdm stop
[23:21] <luca> [sudo] password for luca:
[23:21] <luca> stop: Unknown instance:
[23:21] <qin> luca: to remove rc.update -f gdm remove|disable (you may find better method)
[23:21] <master> The sound faqs are outdated and missing important info
[23:21] <deebee> Fishscene: so what's your priority? Getting ssh access working?
[23:21] <SetiAmon> I need to get either pulse audio working right or get oss4 to work right
[23:21] <bazhang> mingdao_home, please dont comment if you are not sure
[23:21] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: I haven't ever needed to kill X and compile the magic sysrq in my kernel for when "all else fails:
[23:21] <mingdao_home> bazhang: kill mine, and comment if you knonw
[23:21] <qin> luca: Is it Oneiric? There is no more gdm
[23:21] <osmosis> Gentoo64, I have a samsung series 9 laptop.  Ive tried doing a clean install of Ubuntu 11.10, full erase of HD.  Every time, after install completes I try to boot up, and it looks like a bootloader fail.
[23:21] <mingdao_home> bazhang: it WILL kill X
[23:21] <phiscibe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/709040/  jsut a raw copy of the text
[23:22] <Fishscene> deebee: Priority 1: get ssh working so I can SFTP in and grab data off.
[23:22] <luca> yes it's Oneiric
[23:22] <Nazosan> Well, if anyone remembers how to get it to start "in text mode" (eg runlevel 2) that would work great
[23:22] <osmosis> Gentoo64, i never see grub, and I just see the screen flash over and over again
[23:22] <Nazosan> I haven't had to do that with a real linux distro in a long time
[23:22] <luca> qin: I installed gdm package
[23:22] <qin> luca: There is lighdm
[23:22] <Gentoo64> osmosis: selling the laptop is a bit extreme. try older ubuntu maybe?
[23:22] <osmosis> Gentoo64, might have to do with this laptop support EFI , but I have no ideas on what to troubleshoot next.
[23:22] <Fishscene> I can't SFTP from the server TO my house because that's rejecting ssh connections (ubuntu 11.10)
[23:22] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: Ubuntu is not a *real* Linux distro ... it's been hacked and patched and doesn't work like a *real* Linux distro
[23:22] <luca> qin: if u want to install gome-core u must install also gdm
[23:22] <deebee> Fishscene: Ok, have you done any network troubleshooting? E.g, pinging the VM?
[23:23] <richthegeek> phiscibe: thanks .. I suspect it's to with my graphics card (Radeon 6850) not being supported
[23:23] <Gentoo64> mingdao_home: seen you somehwere before lol
[23:23] <deebee> Fishscene: or pinging hosts from within the VM
[23:23] <Nazosan> mingdao_home: "real" as in not a live rescue disc distro like Knoppix.
[23:23] <qin> luca: ps aux | grep dm
[23:23] <dark_eye> mingdao_home: yeah it's just a debian patched and hacked
[23:23] <robin0800> mingdao_home, so does ctr+alt+delete if its set
[23:23] <phiscibe> without more error messages hard say
[23:23] <Fishscene> deebee: Good question. Seems I can't ping from the VM to anywhere.
[23:23] <mingdao_home> robin0800: if it was a *real* Linux distro it would be set
[23:23] <phiscibe> maybe you and look at the kernel log
[23:23] <mingdao_home> but it's a Windoze refugee landing pad
[23:23] <Nazosan> It may be set once you log in
[23:23] <Fishscene> apparently the network has completely shut down for it. Let me revert my VM
[23:23] <deebee> Fishscene: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig?
[23:23] <sam555> hello all
[23:23] <bazhang> !ot > mingdao_home
[23:24] <Nazosan> just not on the login creen
[23:24] <deebee> Fishscene: ok
[23:24] <sam555> what is the command to see when the computer has restarted?
[23:24] <sam555> the shell command
[23:24] <luca> qin: I know there is also lightdm
[23:24] <robin0800> mingdao_home, its easy enough to set though
[23:24] <Fishscene> deebee: I only have a local adapter. No network adapter
[23:24] <carnau> Hi, I have a separate home for my documents, and I'm installing ubuntu 11.04. I maked the partitions and I don't format my home partition. If I encrypt my home from the menu, It will be formated?
[23:24] <Gentoo64> Fishscene: you running ubuntu in vbox?
[23:24] <qin> luca: What do you intend to do?
[23:24] <deebee> Fishscene: ok, well revert the VM and let me know what happens
[23:24] <Nazosan> wasn't there a way to change runlevels on the fly?
[23:24] <deebee> Fishscene: I'm guessing you don't have a snapshot pre-upgrade anymore? :)
[23:24] <luca> qin: I want to see avi as in the previous version
[23:25] <luca> qin: here I cannot see avi
[23:25] <Fishscene> deebee: If I can get my files off, I can revert to pre-upgrade
[23:25] <joao> I can't find the solution for
[23:25] <joao> E: The value 'stable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[23:25] <qin> luca: avi as of file extention
[23:25] <phiscibe> use the manual option not the guided and itshould be safe, there is a known bug where if you have a swap file the install ignores it and makes another
[23:25] <phiscibe> swap partition that is
[23:25] <master> So has anyone tried to use Ensoniq 1371 drivers?
[23:25] <joao> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[23:25] <joao> bug
[23:25] <zouzou> hi
[23:25] <luca> qin: Yes I cannot see avi videos
[23:25] <Fishscene> deebee: Retrieving files now  \:D/
[23:25] <joao> it has been reported
[23:26] <qin> luca: Have you installe restricted?
[23:26] <deebee> Fishscene: glad it's working for you :)
[23:26] <qin> *d
[23:26] <joao> saw something saying synaptic has been dropped? can't be...right?
[23:26] <phiscibe> joao: are you sure that is not a typo in your sources.list?
[23:26] <phiscibe> dropped our nearly dropped
[23:26] <zouzou> can someone please answer me if there is a way i could see the dvd or usb stick i insert in  my laptop on the desktop again on ubuntu 11.10 like it did in 11.04 and even before?
[23:26] <Fishscene> deebee: Sometimes I need someone to slap me into "think through" mode. Thanks!
[23:26] <deebee> Fishscene: you can actually mount VMware disk images to read files from them in a lot of situations. Worth knowing for the future if you didn't already
[23:26] <joao> phiscibe, you mean stable?
[23:26] <luca> qin: restricted extra u mean? there isn't restricted
[23:26] <deebee> Fishscene: we all do it from time to time :)
[23:27] <zouzou> anyone please?
[23:27] <Fishscene> deebee: Also, I discovered I can have multiple snapshots now, so when I said I had committed the VM, I thought I was overwriting my old snapshots.
[23:27] <Gentoo64> zouzou: go in the file manager?
[23:27] <Gentoo64> or is that not an option
[23:27] <akira__> what do i do if my installed packages have unmet dependencies?
[23:27] <deebee> Fishscene: snapshots are your friend, especially when it comes to major system changes :)
[23:28] <beto> hello, don't know if this is the right place to look for a newbie to look forhelp, can't change resolution on  ubuntu 11.10
[23:28] <zouzou> when i put in a dvd iit shows on the taskbar to the left. i want it to also show on the desktop
[23:28] <madbovine> guys quick question...is thunderbird integrated into gnome 3.2 at all?
[23:28] <Fishscene> Yea. I'm just used to this version only having 1 snapshot, which is why I'm super careful with upgrading :P
[23:28] <phiscibe> what happens when u insert the usb and check for messages? zouzou?  like dmesg |tail
[23:28] <joao> can anyone send me their sources.list for oneiric please?
[23:28] <beto> i've googled and rad for 2 straigh hours, still no way :(
[23:29] <luca> madbovine: thunderbird works very good with gnome 3.2
[23:29] <Gentoo64> damn maybe 11.10 is optimized for virtualbox just tried it a second ago and all works 100% smooth
[23:29] <zouzou> nothing
[23:29] <zouzou> it can't read the usb
[23:29] <robin0800> beto, its now in xrandr
[23:29] <luca> Gentoo64: I cannot see avi videos can u see?
[23:29] <zouzou> but i'll fix that later
[23:29] <Gentoo64> luca: didnt try that
[23:29] <zouzou> now i wanna fix my dvd problem
[23:29] <phiscibe> Thunderbird is included as the default email client. This now includes menu and launcher integration via Unity.
[23:29] <master> So how can I get ubuntu to load hardware found in lspci?
[23:29] <luca> Gentoo64: try now please I can't see them
[23:29] <svens-> Gentoo64, there are multiple vbox issues on 11.10
[23:30] <akira__> error broken count > 0 -
[23:30] <akira__> ?
[23:30] <Gentoo64> luca: its gone now
[23:30] <Satanaa> Everytime my box goes to "screensaver" and make a movement, it just shows a black screen, and i have no way to get to the desktop than to reboot.. can anyone PLEASE help me?
[23:30] <phiscibe> oh sorry message overload
[23:30] <beto> I've tried, but first problems comes: "1024x768_75.00"  81.80  1024 1080 1192 1360  768 769 772 802  -HSync +Vsync
[23:30] <Gentoo64> Satanaa: disable screensaver
[23:30] <qin> luca: 1 sofware sources, enable all, 2 install restricted extas, 3 do not wreck your system that soon.
[23:30] <Satanaa> Gentoo64 i have tried
[23:30] <Satanaa> no go
[23:31] <Gentoo64> Satanaa: try power options (or similar) and disable screen blanking?
[23:31] <Satanaa> Ubuntu is known for ignoring users setups ;)
[23:31] <Satanaa> same
[23:31] <beto> sorry should be "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default"
[23:31] <phiscibe> Satanaa:  i have seen 50 ppl with this bug at the errors invovling blank screen dead network dbus locked pid
[23:32] <Satanaa> phiscibe and how did they fix it?
[23:32] <Gentoo64> they need to sort it out its supposed to be a user friendly distro
[23:32] <Gentoo64> all itll do is put ppl off linux
[23:33] <phiscibe> igot links to the fixes and causes but ive been prohibited from sharing cause i put it on a blog i made over nite and its advertising, go readd the realease notes its here too
[23:33] <phiscibe> well not realy
[23:33] <Satanaa> Gentoo64 if you ask me, gentoo is more userfriendly when all fails
[23:33] <phiscibe> it despribes teh problem but nothe symptons
[23:33] <share> how can I play a .f4v file?
[23:33] <phiscibe> its the problem with the new /var /run directories....most likley
[23:33] <Satanaa> phiscibe did they use a hp mini 1000 too by any chance?
[23:34] <akira__> does 11.1 require you to install wine 1.2.2?
[23:34] <Gentoo64> akira__: nothing requires wine
[23:34] <akira__> well ive been trying to install wine for 48hours- and still 0 luck :(
[23:34] <Satanaa> i think akira__ means if you only can install 1.2.2
[23:34] <akira__> yea
[23:34] <Satanaa> akira__ go to the winehq website and get the repo from there
[23:35] <danslo> building wine is a bith =) just get an updated PPA
[23:35] <robinsch> do i have to install the restricted extra to make flash work?
[23:35] <danslo> s/bith/bitch/
[23:35] <Satanaa> err d-d will come after you :P
[23:35] <Gentoo64> ^ swearing and recommending a ppa. thats a double ban right there
[23:36] <danslo> Gentoo64: hahahaha
[23:36] <akira__> i  got a red dot on the top of my screen with a white ---- that says my installed packages have unmet dependencies
[23:36] <yeats> robinsch: no, but the ubuntu-restricted-extras package should include flash
[23:37] <robinsch> yeats: i know chromium browser has built-in flash right?
[23:37] <Gentoo64> robinsch: no
[23:37] <Gentoo64> chrome has
[23:37] <Nazosan> Well, I can't even figure out how to get it to start in "text mode"
[23:37] <robinsch> ah
[23:38] <Nazosan> in fact, apparently runlevel 2 is "graphical mode" now
[23:38] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: why do you want text mode?
[23:38] <qin> Nazosan: shift at boot and e to edit and replace splash with text and ctrl-x to boot and happy
[23:38] <danslo> Nazosan: sudo service lightdm stop
[23:38] <Nazosan> because I need X to not be running long enough to run that one command
[23:38] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: dont ctrl alt f2 do it?
[23:39] <Nazosan> ah, that was perfect danslo
[23:39] <taowa> !cloak
[23:39] <master> No it looks like module snd_ens1371 is no longer included in ubuntu!!!
[23:39] <Nazosan> weird I couldn't find it in the list, but it didn't help that "services --status-all" wouldn't output properly through less/etc
[23:39] <danslo> Nazosan: yeah.. had the same problem today :) then it struck me they changed from gdm to lightdm
[23:39] <Nazosan> All for nothing though
[23:40] <Nazosan> X -configure doesn't work
[23:40] <Phail_Quail> Is there a petition somewhere that I can sign to help prevent Ubuntu, which used to be a really neat OS, from traveling further down the fail path it seems to be on? (i.e. Unity, et al)
[23:40] <Nazosan> Phail_Quail: just run Xubuntu
[23:40] <master> Does anybody know how to get snd-ens1371 to build for my kernel?
[23:40] <qin> !nounity Phail_Quail
[23:40] <slinkeey> Hello
[23:40] <crash1hd> what happened to the Sticky Notes program in ubuntu 11.10?
[23:40] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: its still ubuntu
[23:40] <Nazosan> No Unity et al
[23:40] <Gentoo64> crash1hd: search for tomboy
[23:41] <Phail_Quail> It is not just Unity - this is the first Ubuntu that doesn't recognize my monitor, my mouse, or my keyboard out-of-the-box. All previous issues worked flawlessly.
[23:41] <slinkeey> In ubuntu 11.40 I have been fighting with a slow nautilus problem...  I have googled it
[23:41] <crash1hd> Gentoo64, yeah but thats not the same
[23:41] <Gentoo64> tomboy notes wasnt it?
[23:41] <slinkeey> Nautilus also stops responding
[23:41] <phiscibe> Nazosan: aint it Xorg-conf nowadays?
[23:41] <Nazosan> Ok, so robin0800, I finally got it to where I could kill X to run X -cofigure and it just says "number of created screens does not match number of devices.  Configuration failed."  No new xorg.conf file.
[23:41] <crash1hd> tomboy notes keeps the notes inside a window Sticky Notes used to just show the notes like post its
[23:41] <Nazosan> phiscibe: I'll try that then
[23:42] <Gentoo64> crash1hd: try a search for notes then
[23:42] <Nazosan> no command found
[23:42] <slinkeey> when I press the[X] to close nautilus it says that it is not responding.
[23:42] <danslo> Phail_Quail: I kinda agree with you... they seem to be slowly moving towards completely emulating OSX... it started with unity, now nautilus looks almost completely like OSX finder... maybe it is time to move back to debian and just install gnome3
[23:42] <phiscibe> maybe Xorg --configure
[23:42] <phiscibe> man Xorg
[23:42] <Gentoo64> slinkeey: try killall nautilus
[23:42] <phiscibe> the caps matter
[23:42] <Nazosan> unrecognized option --configure, lol
[23:42] <crash1hd> Gentoo64, yeah thats why i am asking as its no longer in the sotware center
[23:42] <phiscibe> but u gotta be out of X
[23:42] <vasi> I don't seem to be able to add/remove items in the Nautilus sidebar....when i right-click "Remove" and "Rename" are grayed out....any idea how to deal?
[23:42] <slinkeey> That is what I do
[23:42] <Gentoo64> crash1hd: ah not sure then
[23:43] <phiscibe> one -
[23:43] <vasi> phiscibe, i think it's "Xorg -configure" with one dash
[23:43] <phiscibe> -configure
[23:43] <qin> Phail_Quail: it is !notunity, i really like buzz and new, but bsd folks prefer late '90s
[23:43] <crash1hd> Gentoo64, no problem :)
[23:43] <luca> Why i can't see video avi with ubuntu 11.10??? Someone can help me
[23:43] <Nazosan> why do so many things fail to output in a way that works with things like more/less/etc?
[23:43] <phiscibe> is dbus dead
[23:43] <Nazosan> ok, Xorg -configure gives me the same error that X -configure did
[23:43] <slinkeey> Gentoo64  that is what I do to kill it, but next time I use it it still acts up
[23:43] <phiscibe> you have to but OUT of X
[23:43] <Nazosan> I am out of X
[23:43] <Phail_Quail> danslo: Is that what we're going to have to do? I've been with Ubuntu since 8.04 and now Ubuntu is completely unrecognizable. Why does Ubuntu feel the need to emulate OSX and Windows when it was already head-and-shoulders above those two? Does it really have nothing else to contribute to the software community these days?
[23:43] <phiscibe> and mabye sudo
[23:43] <yellow> submarine
[23:43] <Nazosan> lightdm is stopped
[23:44] <phiscibe> what the error
[23:44] <Nazosan> sudo su
[23:44] <MaGiK> DONT
[23:44] <MaGiK> ^^
[23:44] <phiscibe> is GDM stopped
[23:44] <bazhang> yellow, stop that
[23:44] <MaGiK> sudo -i
[23:44] <Gentoo64> Phail_Quail: look at windows 8
[23:44] <Guest39133> Hi, I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10 earlier today. Everything works fine apart from it seems svery half an hour or so the internet stops working. The wireless is still connected, I can ping the router. I can log into the router via the web interface. So it would appear it's just that my internet ius down. But if I reconnect to the wirelss router the internet works instantly. So it looks like the tr
[23:44] <Gentoo64> theyre all going the same way
[23:44] <bazhang> Phail_Quail, thats not a support issue
[23:44] <Nazosan> Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.
[23:44] <osmosis> Phail_Quail,  i just installed 11.10, and am loving the new interface.  So much better.
[23:45] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: su wont work
[23:45] <phiscibe> ive seen that
[23:45] <Varazir> Do I need to have grub when I PXE boot ?
[23:45] <Guest39133> the trouble is with the OS?... (I have had mint 10 and ubuntu 10.10 running fine within the last few days with no newtowrk trouble)
[23:45] <Phail_Quail> bazhang: It most certainly is! Ubuntu went from a perfectly functional OS to a broken copy-cat OS. I'm voicing my concern over my favorite OS. Why doesn't my monitor, mouse, or keyboard work out-of-the-box like all other Ubuntu releases?
[23:45] <Success> why cant i talk
[23:45] <Nazosan> sudo just runs things as root
[23:45] <Gentoo64> Phail_Quail: monitor?
[23:45] <Nazosan> therefore sudo su does the same thing
[23:45] <MaGiK> Nazosan, sudo su can f*** the computer better use sudo -i =)
[23:45] <Gentoo64> lol
[23:45] <bazhang> Phail_Quail, this is support only. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic ; suggestions to brainstorm
[23:46] <Nazosan> anyway, if I sudo X -configure as a user instead, I get the same error.
[23:46] <Varazir> grub keeps nagging that it can't find devices
[23:46] <Flannel> Phail_Quail: Whether that's correct or not, #ubuntu-offtopic would be the place for grievances.  This channel is just for technical support.  Thnks.
[23:46] <phiscibe> Naz do u have multi monitors, if so i got a crude idea of what happened
[23:46] <Nazosan> I do have multiple monitors
[23:46] <vimojnguoi_> #ubuntu-vn
[23:46] <Nazosan> shall I disconnect one?
[23:46] <ederico> hello everyone, I updated from Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. Does anybody know if and how I could revert to the previous ALT-TAB window switcher? I don't like the fact that know when I use that I get to switch through all windows, rather than just the ones on the workspace I'm on (I prefer the latter)
[23:46] <phiscibe> ok crap this will htake a bit of xplaing
[23:46] <Fishscene> Guest39133: I am also having much difficulty with 11.10 and networking. Are you running it in a VM?
[23:46] <Nazosan> Lol, sorry.
[23:46] <Gentoo64> Fishscene: virtualbox?
[23:47] <Guest39133> Fishscene: no Its not ina  VM
[23:47] <Nazosan> I don't mind disconnecting one, but I have to make the configuration work when it's reconnected later
[23:47] <Success> hello anyone hear me?
[23:47] <Fishscene> Gentoo64: VMware ESXi 4.x
[23:47] <Gentoo64> Success: yes
[23:47] <deebee> Success: yes, we can
[23:47] <Guest39133> sucess: yes
[23:47] <simple_user> !md5
[23:47] <Phail_Quail> They only discuss silly things in #Ubuntu-offtopic. I went in there one night and they were discussing fried chicken. I'm not trying to troll; I'm genuinely curious why Ubuntu can't be Ubuntu anymore! What's the deal guys?
[23:47] <Gentoo64> Fishscene: ok. dont know about that
[23:47] <Mony> Success, no, we cant, please call again
[23:47] <Flannel> Phail_Quail: That question is for #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.  If you bring it up there, that will be the topic.  Discussions like that aren't for this channel.
[23:48] <Success> ok 2 things. I have sattelite tv plugin in computer i used to watch with windows media center, anything like that for ubuntu , is must have or im screwed and stuck with winfail and a good html editor
[23:48] <Varazir> When I upgraded my ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 I got errors on  linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic
[23:48] <Nazosan> phiscibe: hold on just a moment.  I started without the vga= parameter just in case and I'm going absolutely batty with this ancient 80x25 interface.  I'm going to reboot again back to a higher resolution console.
[23:48] <Gentoo64> Phail_Quail: they try to make the ui more modern and user friendly to attract more people i guess.
[23:48] <qin> !notunity | Phail_Quail, you can have it like you like
[23:48] <Varazir> and friendly-recovery  memtest86+ ubuntu-standard grub-pc linux-image-generic linux-generic
[23:49] <Goen> Hi everybody! i just added a new line to my crontab... its supposed to play a mp3-file every 1Minute (using mplayer).. it starts to do it every 1min BUT interrupts after 1sec. of playing the file.. does anyone know why this happens?
[23:49] <phiscibe> im typing what is, short story new way xrandr handles stuff, and multi monitors and diplsay moes
[23:49] <phiscibe> modes
[23:49] <slinkeey> I am going to reinstall nautilus and hope for the best... Wish me luck! :)
[23:49] <phiscibe> let me pull my thoughts toghter
[23:49] <Gentoo64> slinkeey: prob wont do anything at all
[23:49] <Gentoo64> but good luck
[23:50] <Success> alls i want lamp w/ apache mysql php/perl/python/cgis
[23:50] <Success> also i want*
[23:50] <Nazosan> whew.  SO much better
[23:50] <Flannel> Success: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP walks you through setting that up.  Read it through, come back here if you have questions or run into problems.
[23:51] <Success> any responses with the tv thing, its most important
[23:51] <slinkeey> gentooxe64, wh do you think it acts up?
[23:51] <Phail_Quail> I voice my grievances in #Ubuntu-offtopic and I'm told that "I phail", and I am asked why this was sent there
[23:51] <Guest39133> Hi, I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10 earlier today. Everything works fine apart from it seems svery half an hour or so the internet stops working. The wireless is still connected, I can ping the router. I can log into the router via the web interface. So it would appear it's just that my internet ius down. But if I reconnect to the wirelss router the internet works instantly. So is it an os problem?
[23:51] <Nazosan> Ok, was I supposed to do to get it to generate an xorg.conf with multiple monitors?
[23:51] <deebee> Success: I don't do home theater on Linux myself, but maybe look into MythTV?
[23:52] <Zelda> is there an application that will allow me to throttle down the cpu and power?
[23:52] <Zelda> running 11.10
[23:52] <ushar> Has anyone here leveraged VT-d to play games in a VM? If so, please tell me about your experience. How was the performance?
[23:52] <Guest39133> ...it seems strange to me anyway ( I have had ubuntu 11.04 and 10.10 installed and working fine within the past few days)
[23:52] <timothy> yes zelda irs alled xfce
[23:52] <Nazosan> PowerNow and Cool'n'Quiet are built into the kernel now aren't they?  My CPU is currently running at its minimum of 800MHz
[23:52] <Success> zelda: i want overclocking stuff too count me in
[23:52] <Fishscene> Guest39133: The next time it goes out, type in terminal: "ifconfig" and send the output to pastebin.
[23:53] <Zelda> irs alled? " its called?
[23:53] <Phail_Quail> Way to kick me
[23:54] <Zelda> xfce thats a desktop environment right? What does that do that ubuntu one doesnt?
[23:54] <Guest39133> oh it just went out just now, and I reconnected..and its working again
[23:54] <Flannel> Phail_Quail: This channel is for technical support, not a soapbox for your whining.  About Ubuntu, or about #ubuntu-offtopic.  There's 1600 people in this channel, please help keep it ontopic.
[23:54] <Nazosan> Zelda: cat /proc/cpuinfo.  I'll bet your CPU isn't running full speed
[23:54] <Zelda> errr unity.
[23:54] <Guest39133> Fishscene: yes I'll do it next time it does..probably within the next 5 minutes..
[23:54] <Zelda> my fan is running high.
[23:55] <Nazosan> Hmm...  Well, my relatively new-ish CPU has Cool'n'Quiet 3 and works fine so far in Xubuntu at least.  It's running 800MHz and I can't hear the fan
[23:55] <Guest39133> Fishscene: bare in mind though that it does seem it is connected to the router still when the internet is not working..
[23:55] <Zelda> Nazosan: cool and quiet is probably what Im talkin about.
[23:55] <zacarias> My Firefox 3.6.23 is crashing. Help!
[23:55] <Zelda> Im running an older cpu. t8400 DC
[23:55] <Nazosan> AMD has "Cool'n'Quiet" and Intel has "PowerNow."  They're ultimately basically the same thing.
[23:55] <Fishscene> Guest39133: Correct. However, if there is a configuration error (as I suspect in this case), it is possible to talk to all of the devices on your network, but NOTHING on the internet
[23:56] <kandinski> something wrong happened to my fonts on upgrade to Oneiric. The terminal looks like crap, the spacing between characters in the terminal is all wonky, any fix?
[23:56] <pfadi> kolleges
[23:56] <deebee> Guest39133: if you leave a ping running to an external host (eg google.com), does it drop out when the internet supposedly stops working?
[23:56] <kandinski> deebee: yeah, it will
[23:56] <Guest39133> deebee: I'll do it now and see
[23:56] <Nazosan> You're using a laptop?
[23:56] <Zelda> Nazosan: yeah, thanks. this cpu fan is running high. how do I throttle it down?
[23:56] <Varazir> Can I remove grub if I PXE boot my system ?
[23:56] <Success> i cant find
[23:56] <Success> whats mythbuntu
[23:56] <deebee> kandinski: Did I miss something?
[23:56] <crimscx> hey guys whats a good channel just to relax in
[23:56] <Barnabas> Guest39133 do a continous ping to the router too
[23:57] <Barnabas> in another terminal window
[23:57] <phiscibe> Nazosan: What I think has happened is the way mutiple displays in twin view now works is with metamodes.  For some new reason, xorg makes ONE display, think of a big rectangle to encompess both moniors.  Think of a big rectangle.  The resolution of that rectangle has to be big enough so that both displays fit in side.
[23:57] <Success> oh i just want the tv part do i have to reinstall
[23:57] <kandinski> deebee, I was answering to your question. Ping will stop if you cut your network, yes.
[23:57] <jrib> !ot | crimscx
[23:57] <Paladinlaw> hi, im trying to logout but im getting "out of range" on my monitor.
[23:57] <Goen> Hi everybody! i just added a new line to my crontab... its supposed to play a mp3-file every 1Minute (using mplayer).. it starts to do it every 1min BUT interrupts after 1sec. of playing the file.. does anyone know why this happens?
[23:57] <Nazosan> Normally with PowerNow and Cool'n'Quiet, the CPU fan is scaled based on the processor temperature (which in turn is based on how much work it's doing)
[23:57] <Success> or can i install mythbuntu over ubuntu
[23:57] <crimscx> thanks jrib
[23:57] <deebee> kandinski: I wasn't asking a question, I'm helping someone
[23:57] <Guest39133> Barnabas: ok, doing it
[23:57] <phiscibe>  had to get back to a basic xorg, I cant remeber the hoops I jumped threw but you must restart in this process the whole machine.  When you can get it to but with one monitor you have to set the twin view option with a meta mode big enough for both screens.
[23:57] <Zelda> yeah but it doesnt change even idling.
[23:57] <Success> like how i once installed kde on ubuntu
[23:57] <Nazosan> phiscibe: let me say this:  I want to leave that monitor hooked up, but I am 100% ok with linux not using it.
[23:57] <bazhang> !info mythbuntu-desktop | Success
[23:57] <Zelda> the fan is constantly running high
[23:57] <phiscibe> You must use xrandr to add modelines.   You may want to use cvt to generate the modelines
[23:57] <parcs> how seamless are distro upgrades?
[23:57] <Success> i have 64
[23:58] <Nazosan> so if it disables the monitor entirely I'm ok
[23:58] <bazhang> Success, install it, then choose from login window
[23:58] <Nazosan> is it able to do that?
[23:58] <Barnabas> Guest39133 if windows gets ping timeout = net card / driver issue - if only one window gets timeout - probably a router - ISP issue
[23:58] <phiscibe> its sounds rought but not to bad
[23:58] <Paladinlaw> hi, im trying to logout but im getting "out of range" on my monitor.
[23:58] <Barnabas> both windows
[23:58] <Nazosan> Zelda, if you were on a PC I'd say you had PowerNow/Cool'n'Quiet disabled in the BIOS.  But are you on a laptop?  It may be running loud just because laptops are so ridiculously hot.
[23:59] <Fishscene> Paladinlaw: That means the frequency (refresh rate) is too high/low or the resolution is too high/low for your monitor
[23:59] <Success> it doesnt show up in ubuntu software center
[23:59] <hicham> i just installed cairo dock on my ubuntu 11.04
[23:59] <Success> oh there we go
[23:59] <zacarias> My Firefox 3.6.23 is crashing without any apparent reason. Any help?
[23:59] <Success> ew cairo dock is only cool with panels
[23:59] <Paladinlaw> Fishscene: hmm worked great before
[23:59] <phiscibe> xrandr -q
[23:59] <Success> plus awn is better
[23:59] <phiscibe> will give you soem basics
[23:59] <Zelda> Nazosan: its possible but in Win 7 I can turn the cpu down and power down which in turn makes the fan run quieter.. who knows
[23:59] <hicham> and i log out and in again but its gone do i need to add it to start up applications?
[23:59] <Nazosan> phiscibe: is there any easier way to do this?  I really don't want to deal with that modeline stuff again...  I never got the hang of that years ago and don't want to mess with it again now


[03:14] <s10gopal> jsalisbury, apw 4.13.0-38-generic #43~lp1745646ThreeRevert fixed the bug
[11:59] <jsalisbury> s10gopal, that's good news.  So multiple commits are at fault here.  That kernel had 3 reverted, so I have to review them to narrow it down further.  I'll post another kereel in a bit.
[12:00] <s10gopal> jsalisbury, :) it will be fixed on ubuntu 18.04 ?
[12:00] <jsalisbury> s10gopal, eventually. Still more work to do first.
[13:53] <ntd> anyone alive? both hwe-16.04 and -edge are broken for thousands
[13:53] <TJ-> ntd: bug report reference?
[13:53] <ntd> and if you publish 18.04 with current kernel you're in for a nasty surprise
[13:54] <ntd> lemme dig em up, red hat/centos went through these issues a while back
[13:54] <TJ-> ntd: we're not seeing any reports in #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu
[13:55] <ntd> it's not like i haven't tried to mention these issues
[13:55] <ntd> i was referred to this channel which has been dead at every visit
[13:55] <ntd> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1549042
[13:55] <ubot5`> bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1549042 in xorg-x11-drv-intel "Kernels 4.15.x are not booting on docking" [High,Closed: errata]
[13:55] <TJ-> ntd: that's not an Ubuntu bug report
[13:56] <ntd> broad strokes, every => haswell thinkpad user with a dock won't be able to boot
[13:56] <ntd> still applies to your kernel
[13:56] <ntd> and between 4.13.0-37 and -38 networkmanager no longer works for wired interfaces for the same users
[13:58] <ntd> TJ-, they fixed it, you haven't. who can i talk to about this?
[14:00] <TJ-> ntd: we need an Ubuntu bug report and the evidence from logs and so forth
[14:01] <ntd> you have a redhat bugreq with three duplicates with logs and such
[14:02] <ntd> and since the system won't boot, how are users supposed to provide relevant logs?
[14:07] <ntd> TJ-, any such system won't boot and there will be no screen output
[14:11] <TJ-> ntd: we're already carrying the patch
[14:12] <ntd> as of version?
[14:13] <TJ-> it's in master-next
[14:14] <ntd> ok, which version number will this be? current is 4.15.0-13
[14:15] <TJ-> It'll be the next release
[14:16] <ntd> k, thanks
[14:17] <ntd> i saw BB beta2 yday, fixed kernel?
[14:24] <ntd> TJ-, now, for 4.13.0-38 breaking networkmanager for wired NICs?
[14:29] <TJ-> !bug | btd
[14:29] <ubot5`> btd: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[14:29] <TJ-> oops, typo!
[19:22] <jjohansen> sforshee: I still don't have upstream sha1s for the apparmor bug fix pull, should I wait a few hours, or pull a patchset together without the upstream shas1
[19:26] <sforshee> jjohansen: are they in a maintainer tree? Even if not we can apply them as sauce though.
[19:27] <jjohansen> sforshee: yes, and the pull-request is upstream, its just waiting for them to be merged. I know we can do them as sauce, its just nice to have upstream shas
[19:28] <jjohansen> but it is getting very late
[19:28] <sforshee> jjohansen: you can cherry pick them from the maintainer tree and make the provenance say "cherry picked from commit xxx <git-url>", we do that quite frequently
[19:29] <jjohansen> yeah I'll do that
[19:29] <sforshee> plenty of examples if you run git log
[19:29] <TJ-> will ubuntu-bionic/master-next make it's way to  xenial hwe-edge packages?
[19:29] <sforshee> TJ-: yes, around the same time it makes it's way into bionic
[19:29] <sforshee> so if it's in the current -proposed kernel that should be fairly soon
[19:30] <sforshee> if not a bit longer
[19:30] <TJ-> sforshee: thanks. That clears up my last check vis-a-vis ntd's 'bug report' earlier today about the docking station 4.15 bug
[19:31] <sforshee> TJ-: yeah that one is not in -proposed I think. We'll likely spin a new kernel for -proposed before much longer, with the kernel freeze being tomorrow and all
[19:31] <TJ-> iirc the commit is currently at HEAD in master-next, or was a few hours ago
[19:31] <sforshee> not anymore, we've shoved a lot of stuff on today
[19:31] <TJ-> I start early :)
[19:31] <sforshee> the last minute rush before kernel freeze
[22:14] <jjohansen> sforshee: sent
[22:14] <sforshee> jjohansen: thanks


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[21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4294 Diff missing
[22:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4285 Diff missing (groovy/grep). Proposed pocket (groovy/diffutils, groovy/fakeroot). Release pocket (groovy/devscripts, groovy/findutils). UNAPPROVED queue (groovy/python-apt, groovy/sed)
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4285 Diff missing (groovy/grep). Proposed pocket (groovy/fakeroot). Release pocket (groovy/devscripts, groovy/diffutils, groovy/findutils). UNAPPROVED queue (groovy/python-apt, groovy/sed)