[00:04] <Roasted> How does Kubuntu 10.10 fair on standard netbook hardware? Meaning single core atom 1.6ghz etc?
[00:04] <james147> Roasted: works fine on my eee pc :)
[00:05] <Roasted> james147, good deal. I havent used kubuntu since kde 4.2, which was still kind of.. well let's not go there. Willing to give it another shot though :P
[00:05] <james147> kde has improved ALLOT since 4.2
[00:05] <Roasted> doing the liveusb thing now, just waiting for it to complete
[00:06] <Roasted> yeah, but at the time so many people talked up 4.2 to be amazing, when it uh. wasn't. at all.
[00:06] <Roasted> has me semi skeptical :P
[00:06] <james147> Roasted: ^^ i mean when compaired to kde 4.2, 4.5 is allot better
[00:06] <Roasted> is 4.5 on 10.10?
[00:06] <Roasted> or are you using a PPA?
[00:06] <james147> yes
[00:06] <Roasted> good deal
[00:06] <Roasted> 4.6 is the new guy then?
[00:07] <james147> 4.6rc2 is in a ppa as well
[00:07] <Roasted> ah k.
[00:07] <Roasted> yeah I'm curious. I made an image backup of Ubuntu 10.10 just in case with clonezilla. Never know :P
[00:07] <Roasted> since this netbook is a screw around toy I figured I would utilize it to see what other netbook distros out there fair well.
[00:07] <Roasted> I just tried jolicloud but the whole cloud thing is pretty laughable in my opinion, but it was such a nice interface though.
[00:07]  * james147 notes that you can install kubuntu-desktop inside ubuntu and efficivly have both on one partition
[00:08] <Roasted> been there, done that
[00:08] <Roasted> maaaaaaajor mess.
[00:08] <Roasted> much easier to just have two independent partitions, one ubuntu, one kubuntu, that share the same home directory.
[00:11] <Roasted> seems as if kubuntu has frozen in the process of booting it up in a live environment. not a good start...
[00:14] <Roasted> froze again...
[00:20] <Roasted> formatted the flash drive, installed kubuntu 10.10 onto flash drive again, third time attempting boot - froze again
[00:20] <Roasted> such a shame I can't even try kubuntu on a netbook. IT won't fricken boot.
[00:23] <Roasted> well, I tried kubuntu. you failed me again. Bye guys. :(
[00:24] <isaias> hi, kubuntu 10.10 has a good Dock?
[00:25] <james147> isaias: what do you mean by dock?
[00:25] <isaias> like the avant windows navigator that i used to have in ubuntu
[00:26] <james147> isaias: dont use ubuntu so i dont know what that is...
[00:26] <bhargava> Hi can some one help use the ctags plugin that comes with kate
[00:27] <bhargava> it does create the tags file but does not load the tags in the tags tab in the ctags window
[00:49] <Goliath> hola
[00:49] <Goliath>  i exracted a 7z archive withe right click extract here option. Can i be sure it was extracted without errors?
[00:59] <rtdos> is there a way to open windows' *.url files in firefox that are located on a network drive? everytime i try to open them with firefox, firefox wants to download them.
[01:03] <Ash-Fox> rtdos, I think theres a handler for that included in crossover from codeweavers
[01:42] <rtdos> codeweavers?
[01:43] <randomperson8356> hello?
[01:43] <james147> hello randomperson8356
[01:44] <randomperson8356> how do i find different networks to connect to?
[01:45] <james147> wireless?
[01:45] <randomperson8356> no chat networks
[01:45] <randomperson8356> pretty new to irc and linux
[01:45] <james147> not sure about networks :) would need to look on google for irc networks...
[01:45] <randomperson8356> ok thanks
[01:46] <james147> randomperson8356: /list   however will list all channels on the network
[01:46] <james147> ^^
[01:46]  * james147 should have started with that one
[02:16] <Pomeroy> Hi guys
[02:16] <james147> Hello Pomeroy
[02:16] <Pomeroy> I typed "init 5" in command.exe, and it looks to me like it's broken my colour capsules or something, any ideas?
[02:17] <james147> command.exe?
[02:17] <Pomeroy> Somebody on 4chan told me to do it.
[02:17] <Pomeroy> Maybe it was terminal.ini...I'm not exactly sure.
[02:17] <james147> dont listen to anyone on 4chan...
[02:21]  * james147 is disappointed in quality trolls today....
[02:22] <KimLaroux> lol!
[03:00]  * rtdos laughs ex-hub-er-ently
[03:06] <Daskreech> rtdos: aspell?
[04:49] <egossett> join ubuntu-us
[04:49] <Daskreech> Never!!
[05:19] <juankrlos> i need help for to limit cpu frequency in kubuntu 10.04
[05:24] <Daskreech> BIOS?
[05:26] <james147> juankrlos: why limit it?
[05:28] <setuid> How do I stop users from being listed in kdm?
[05:28] <setuid> I've tried dozens of themes, but it always shows a list, even though I've unchecked "Show list" in the KDM config screen under the "Users" tab
[05:28] <juankrlos> because the temperature is  high (sometimes)
[05:29] <yofel> you can use cpufreq-selector to set governor and frequency
[05:30] <yofel> (needs to be done seperately for every core)
[05:30] <setuid> yofel, s/separately/independently/
[05:30] <yofel> er, right
[05:31] <yofel> though I think cpufreq-set can also do all at once, but I never tried that
[05:32]  * james147 suggest looking into getting better cooling ^^
[05:32] <james147> (as well)
[05:32] <yofel> won't help if it's a notebook ;) (though yes, that too if possible)
[05:32]  * setuid uses a little script to overclock the fan on his Thinkpads
[05:32] <james147> yofel: yeah :(  ...
[05:33] <setuid> # head -2 /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
[05:33] <setuid> status:         enabled
[05:33] <setuid> speed:          5068
[05:33] <james147> yofel: still worth a look, nothing worst then underclocking your computer
[05:33] <james147> (well, except maby it melting ... )
[05:33] <setuid> undervolting your laptop on the other hand, has HUGE advantages
[05:34] <yofel> setuid: how would you do that? (if there's no bios setting)
[05:34] <setuid> yofel, I do it on all of my Thinkpads... it's straightforward
[05:34] <setuid> Some info here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Pentium_M_undervolting_and_underclocking
[05:35] <setuid> There's probably others for other laptop models as well (assuming Intel and/or AMD cpus, of course)
[05:35] <setuid> Not sure about netbooks, ATOM processors and the link
[05:35] <setuid> s/link/likes
[05:35] <james147> though atoms have a decent power consumption so there is les sof an advantage :)
[05:36] <setuid> Right, and that's where the other tricks come into play (disable usb wakeup, etc.)
[05:36] <setuid> powertop can help there
[05:36] <yofel> yeah, but you can't really underclock atoms, that's pretty much shutting them down
[05:36] <setuid> underclock != undervolt
[05:36] <setuid> They're very different
[05:37] <yofel> I know, undervolt might be possible
[05:37] <setuid> You can run your CPU at 5V, 2.4Ghz, or 3.8V, 2.4Ghz
[05:37] <yofel> and powertop *is* useful
[05:37]  * setuid fights with kdm, and refuses to give up
[05:37] <yofel> the kdm kcm doesn't work for that?
[05:38] <setuid> it's ignoring most of what I choose for settings, they appear selected/checked or unselected/unchecked in the config, so they SHOULD be working, but they're not
[05:38] <setuid> Could be an Ubuntu 11.04 buglet, one of about 3 dozen I've found and documented in the last 8 hours
[05:39] <juankrlos> :) oki, cpufreq-selector
[05:43]  * setuid is an idiot... why would I be looking in the 'Users' tab for user-specific configuration options, of COURSE it's in the "Convenience" tab, where it's completely unrelated... *smacks forehead*
[05:44] <setuid> woop, found a bug there too... damn
[05:45] <setuid> If you pass a username and incorrect password, it recycles the login dialog, but now the username is cached there
[08:56] <anihilat> hey, anyone know something how to handel with k3b wodim error while burning ISO on CD ?
[09:10] <iulian> hi all
[09:14] <antonio_> ciao
[09:18] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i have an IP camera which i can access through its' web interface and configure it to save still images when motion is detected to an ftp server etc. I have been able to get a video preview through vlc by accessing the camera's ip like this: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/videostream.cgi . The video stream is compressed in MJPEG according to vlc video properties menu. I want to save that video stream to a hd but i don't know how. Can
[09:18] <naftilos76> anyone help?
[09:22] <valorie> naftilos76: you might find more knowledgeable people in #videolan , which is the VLC channel
[09:22] <naftilos76> valorie: thanks
[09:29] <valorie> good luck!
[09:40] <dennister> hey there, anyone awake?
[09:41] <james147> dennister: there are many people awake
[09:43] <dennister> wonderful...middle of night here and I'm frustrated like there's no tomorrow :) 2 problems: my geforce 210 card and network dying too often
[09:44] <dennister> last night all of a sudden xorg didn't work, and while I did install proprietary drivers for this card once before, I can't find how to do it anymore?
[09:45] <james147> dennister: run "hardware driver" (or launch jockey-kde from terminal) that is the best way to install them
[09:46] <dennister> nor can I find the link I used before  by googling...
[09:46] <valorie> dennister: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_210_us.html ?
[09:46] <dennister> valorie: ty
[09:46] <valorie> oh, sorry
[09:46] <valorie> james147 is much more knowledgeable than I am
[09:47] <dennister> james147: i think your advice is for a newer version than mine...I'm using hardy
[09:47] <james147> why are you useing hardy?
[09:47] <dennister> james147: do you have all night? long story
[09:48] <james147> its almost 10am here :p
[09:48] <dennister> heheh...4:48 am here, and if I start on the hardy-v-newer versions I'll never get anything else done
[09:49] <james147> well, i cant help you with that version, its far to old for me to remember what it was like
[09:50] <dennister> james147: k, gotcha, thx for your willingness
[09:50] <dennister> anyone elseknow how do i install newer proprietary nvidia drivers for this geforce 210 card on hardy?
[09:51] <dennister> 800 x 600 resolution isn't going to cut it here
[10:02] <dennister> !nvidia
[10:07] <dennister> anyone know how to actually run the nvidia....run file?
[10:08] <james147> ./nameoffile.run
[10:08] <james147> ^^ might need sudo
[10:08] <james147> probally does
[10:08]  * james147 also think you have to stop X first
[10:08] <dennister> yes...to install anything
[10:08] <dennister> that's right...now it's coming back to me...I think
[10:09] <dennister> bbs
[10:25] <chiiiiiz> hello
[10:25] <chiiiiiz> small problem: when logging in, the plasma desktop waits for my kwallet password to display the desktop. I think it appeared after an update..
[10:26] <chiiiiiz> Before, I only needed the kwallet password for Kontact or Amarok...
[10:26] <chiiiiiz> any idea?
[10:26] <james147> chiiiiiz: do you have any widgets taht might store a password?
[10:26] <chiiiiiz> Hi, James14
[10:27] <rork> chiiiiiz: any drives automatically mounting?
[10:28] <chiiiiiz> I have on the desktop the Trash, a widget that displays the free space available for my mount points and disks, the Google Translator, the Plasmacon terminal, and 2 folderviews
[10:29] <chiiiiiz> Yes, I modified my fstab a long time ago, long before the problem appeared...
[10:29] <chiiiiiz> Everytyhing was configured like it is now long before this problem appeared...
[10:31] <chiiiiiz> some network mountpoints use the cifs filesystem, since the folder to be mounted are on a W2003 Server machine.
[10:33] <chiiiiiz> On the right click on Plasma there is a command I do not understand... Between "Execute a command" and "lock/unlock the plamoids"... In french it is called "Agencements", arrangements in english
[10:34] <chiiiiiz> I have 3 of them, not named... that I do not know about... maybe this locks Plasma somewhere... Where can I remove them, what is their use?
[10:37] <valorie> chiiiiiz: maybe those are the Activities?
[10:38] <valorie> that's new, you can organize your different desktops into different activities
[10:38] <chiiiiiz> I guess so. What is their use? I never used them, but I may have browsed into them, and changed things that require the password.
[10:38] <valorie> News is the only one that comes to mind
[10:39] <chiiiiiz> I have 3 of them... but I do not see the use. How can I remove them?
[10:39] <valorie> so you could group activities that you normally do, all together
[10:39] <valorie> I just ignore them, until i put them to use
[10:39] <valorie> how are they in the way of anything?
[10:39] <chiiiiiz> I must add, I am most used to work under Gnome... KDE is quite recen,t for me...
[10:39] <valorie> sorry, I don't know anything about gnome
[10:39] <chiiiiiz> Sorry, I did not understand your last post?
[10:40] <valorie> drives me nuts to have to work in it
[10:40] <valorie> lol
[10:40] <valorie> why get rid of them? what harm are they doing?
[10:40] <hammer> anyone who nows a console tool to display current joystick positions!?
[10:40] <chiiiiiz> No, that okay, just to add that KDE is not my cup of tea so far... lost of things I still do not know about it...
[10:41] <valorie> it isn't for everyone, that's true
[10:41] <valorie> everyone should use what they like
[10:41] <chiiiiiz> ah, I thought maybe these"Activities" require a kwallet password... and explain the fact that I have this password asked before Plasma starts, which recent... and annoying
[10:41] <valorie> no, I don't think so
[10:42] <valorie> they might be lockable, such as a Business activity, which you would want passworded
[10:42] <valorie> or Banking
[10:42] <chiiiiiz> and so thought I may have to erase them in order to retrieve my former desktop conf... and no password before I start Kontact or Amarok
[10:42] <valorie> well, the reason you want a pw for Amarok is to access the web services
[10:43] <valorie> such as Last.fm, Magnatunes, etc.
[10:43] <valorie> if you don't use any web services, then you need no pw
[10:51] <chiiiiiz> agreed... I use them, and a mysql database also.
[10:53] <valorie> oh, an external db?
[10:53] <valorie> then yes, you have to give a PW one way or another
[10:53] <valorie> I prefer kwallet, since it's just once instead of over and over
[11:01] <chiiiiiz> I understand that Amarok, or Kontact may need the Kwallet passwd, but I still do not see why Plasma required it... Thanks anyway
[11:10] <valorie> chiiiiiz: it isn't that plasma requires it, but security
[11:11] <valorie> I believe you can set up your login to be without password, although I don't know how to do that
[11:11] <valorie> and since I have a laptop, I wouldn't do it
[11:11] <valorie> but that's up to you
[11:22] <JohnFlux> I did a normal apt-get upgrade   and now I have screen corruption etc
[11:22] <JohnFlux> It's mostly minor, but for example the colors in the toolbox thing in the bottom right are all wrong
[11:25] <chiiiiiz> understood... but I won't. THanks
[11:31] <iulian_> maybe something on sytem settings there you can change password and other options
[11:49] <davour> I have a problem adding contacts to my address book in kmail, since I have more than one std.vcf file. Akonadi tray applet say so, kmail say so. Looking in the .kde/share/apps/kabc  I claim it isn't so. Any idea how to make all parts agree?
[11:58] <ecinx> how do i play an AVI file from the web?
[11:58] <ecinx> http://cslibrary.stanford.edu/104/
[12:03] <mndo> ecinx, mplayer http://www.cs.stanford.edu/cslibrary/PointerFunPreview.avi
[12:05] <ecinx> ok, thanks.. how do i pause apt-get dist-upgrade so i can download mplayer?
[12:05] <ecinx> is it safe to do ctrl -c?
[12:06] <t3rminat0r> how may I copy an already pre-configured eclipse from one other box to my machine?
[12:06] <t3rminat0r> [it came already with a distribution]
[12:13] <davour> ecinx: You wait
[12:13] <ecinx> ok
[12:20] <mndo> ecinx, unless you're still downloading it's better to wait
[12:21] <mndo> ecinx, but you don't really need mplayer, you can use kaffeine or totem or whatever media player you use
[12:21] <ecinx> it opened with totem but no video, like a codec issue i guess
[12:23] <mndo> ecinx, you can use vlc or do an apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:31] <ecinx> thanks mndo, i have to go now
[12:31] <mndo> ecinx, sure, no problem
[12:36] <metRo_> hi
[12:36] <metRo_> with the last update
[12:36] <metRo_> my device notifier never stop showing networks folders
[12:36] <metRo_> how can i stop it!?
[12:44] <metRo_> anyone?!
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:08] <dsemblano> Hi folks, anyone has experienced all maximized windows go bellow the panel? Behave like Visibility - Windows go bellow. Using KDE 4.6 RC2
[13:08] <dsemblano> if so, is there any workaround?
[13:25] <pucko-``> why are mounted disks added as /media/disk-1 instead of /media/<label> ? this is very confusing when I occasionaly access different disks in different order. Anyone know how to change this behavior?
[13:26] <stealthc> is there a way to probe for the mount folder generically in linux?
[13:26] <stealthc> I need something cleaner than this: sudo blkid -o list | awk "/SubWeb/"' { print $4 }' | cut -d'/' -f2
[13:27] <pucko-> good question.
[13:54] <Kolia> anyone knows if it's possible to set a picture as desktop background from gwenview?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Kolia, open desktop settings by right clicking on the desktop and choosing it in the dialog box then plasma desktop settings will open, then choose the open tab , then choose the path to the file you want
[13:58] <Kolia> BluesKaj: thanks, I know this way, but i wonder about doing it from gwenview
[13:58] <Kolia> BluesKaj: usecase: i'm watching a nice diaporama and suddenly find a good pic and want to use it as background
[13:58] <Kolia> (and too lazy to minimize, check the name of pic, open the dialo from desktop..) :)
[13:58] <BluesKaj> gwenview is merely the vehicle to open those files
[13:59] <Kolia> a right-click on a pic from gwenview slideshow -> set as background picture would be nice for me though :p
[14:02] <bullium_> Running kubuntu 10.04 and the panel crashed but I still have programs running and can issue an ALT+F2 to run apps and have a terminal open. How can I start the panel back up without restarting X?
[14:03] <Kolia> bullium_: try plasma-desktop from krunner
[14:04] <bullium_> Kolia: awesome! that did it...I've been using gnome to long :)
[14:05] <Kolia> bullium_: :))
[14:06] <bullium_> Kolia: KDE simply handles multiple monitors better than gnome right now; not to mention it's prettier and works well with docky :)
[14:07] <Kolia> really? you find it better with multiple monitors?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> gnome is ok , but they are having transition to gnome 3 probs due to a lack of attention to the the existing desktop's probs
[14:08] <Kolia> i've been happy with it but only because of the nvidia tool to handle the screen settings. I found the handling of multiple screens in KDE generally tricky.
[14:08] <Kolia> but maybe it changed lately
[14:09] <BluesKaj> gnome works better with some graphics cards than others , kde seems to work better with nvidia than ati atm
[14:09] <Kolia> yeah that's what i found, but even with nvidia, the native kde tool for monitor settings didn't work well
[14:10] <Kolia> (for me)
[14:10] <bullium_> Kolia: well I used the nvidia tool for in gnome...but I decided to try KDE by installing the kde4-destkop package. So maybe some of my nvidia configs bleed over, but I was able to do more with multiple monitors with kcmshell4
[14:12] <BluesKaj> well. rather than multiple monitors i just use my plasma tv as a monitor
[14:12] <Kolia> good news then
[14:12] <Kolia> BluesKaj: resolution is ok?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> this pc is our media server as well
[14:13] <BluesKaj> nvidia dvi to hdmi
[14:13] <bullium_> Kolia: thanks for the help
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Kolia, yes, 1920x1080
[14:13] <Kolia> bullium_: np
[14:13] <Kolia> BluesKaj: how big is the screen?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> not too large , 42"
[14:15] <Kolia> lol
[14:16] <BluesKaj> I'm about 3M away from the scrn, the fonts have to be above 12 or so ...chromium browser toolbar and bookmark fonts don't link to kde settings tho, so I'm forced to use FF
[14:18] <BluesKaj> using wireless KG and mouse from my easychair
[14:18] <BluesKaj> er KB
[14:18] <Kolia> BluesKaj: stop, i hate you already
[14:19] <Kolia> i'm sitting on a nice chair, but in front of a netbook
[14:19] <Kolia> :p
[14:19] <BluesKaj> well, I'm an old retired guy ,
[15:08] <JohnFlux> I have drawing corruption..  was there a recent update that caused this?
[15:10] <jhohn> There was a xorg update recently
[15:23] <vinmail> hi
[16:55] <pulaski> Hello, I have an amd64 box on which I run kubuntu 10.10 and kde 4.5.95. The default amarok package is 2.3.90. When I run amarok it does not recognize and will not play an audio cd from my drive. Has anyone else had this experience and offer a comment?
[17:49] <Peace-> :)
[18:01] <kurumin> #amapá
[18:03] <kurumin> ola td bem com vcs
 vc é do amapá é?
[18:08] <Mamarok> !en | kurumin
[18:38] <ubuntu_> hi , can tell me somone who i can use divx webstreams in kubuntu 10.10 ?
[18:39] <ubuntu_> hello somone here ?
[18:40] <ubuntu_> huhu
[18:41] <Peace-> ubuntu_:
[18:41] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:41] <Peace-> what did you mean ?
[18:41] <Peace-> webstrem ?
[18:41] <ubuntu_> yes divx webstream
[18:42] <Peace-> which browser?
[18:42] <ubuntu_> firefox
[18:42] <Peace-> i guess you have to install mozzilla-mplayer
[18:42] <ubuntu_> yes but , no plugins like ffmpeg ,
[18:43] <Peace-> ubuntu_: wait a moment i fnd out the packages
[18:43] <ubuntu_> do i need this plugins ?
[18:43] <ubuntu_> ok
[18:43] <ubuntu_> thanks
[18:43] <Peace-> ubuntu_: have you medibuntu ?
[18:43] <ubuntu_> i don know this , i have kubunto 10.10
[18:43] <ubuntu_> 64 bit
[18:43] <Peace-> ubuntu_: medibuntu are repository for codecs...
[18:44] <Peace-> without that the most of videos doesn't work well because you have not all codecs...
[18:44] <DarthFrog> !medibuntu
[18:44] <ubuntu_> yes thats my problem , i think i schould install this
[18:44] <Peace-> ubuntu_: so read the documentation about medibuntu
[18:45] <Peace-> ubuntu_: basically you have to copy and paste two command line
[18:45] <Peace-> on konsole
[18:45] <ubuntu_> yes i do this
[18:45] <ubuntu_> do you know the commands ?
[18:46] <Peace-> ubuntu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding the Repository
[18:46] <ubuntu_> i have installed the mplayer for firefox , but i think the player dosent find the divx codec
[18:46] <Peace-> sudo wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[18:46] <Peace-> sudo apt-get --yes install app-install-data-medibuntu apport-hooks-medibuntu
[18:46] <ubuntu_> ok i will read it , thanks for your quick help , sorry for the bad englisch iam german
[18:46] <ubuntu_> :-)
[18:47] <Peace-> ubuntu_: ... so
[18:47] <Peace-> !de | ubuntu_
[18:47] <DarthFrog> Peace-: Geshundheit!
[18:47] <Peace-> DarthFrog: lol
[18:47] <ubuntu_> Dankeschön
[18:47] <Peace-> DarthFrog: xD nope man i am italian
[18:47] <DarthFrog> Peace-:  I was making a joke about your wget gibberish. :-)
[18:47] <ubuntu_> in the worldwar we was friends :-)
[18:47] <Peace-> i didn't like remember that...
[18:48] <ubuntu_> yes its better
[18:48] <Peace-> stupid wars for stupid peple
[18:48] <DarthFrog> Peace-:  In English, we say that after someone sneezes. :-)
[18:48] <Peace-> DarthFrog: i know something about german language
[18:48] <Peace-> anyway
[18:49] <Peace-> !offtopic
[18:49] <Peace-> xD
[18:49] <ubuntu_> an what you know ??
[18:49] <Peace-> !offtopic | ubuntu_
[18:49] <ubuntu_> i have seen , i am a irc noob
[18:51] <ubuntu_> ok i musste reboot see you later thx
[19:06] <bhargava> Hi can someone help me installing themes in kubuntu
[19:06] <james147> bhargava: themes for what?
[19:06] <bhargava> Is there a theme manager where I can just browse for themes and install what I like
[19:06] <bhargava> desktop themes
[19:07] <james147> bhargava: easiest way is to: System settings > workspace appearence > Desktop themes > Get new themes
[19:09] <bhargava> @james147: there is no workspace appearence option in the system settings, only appearence and there is no desktop themes option in that (Using kubuntu 10.04)
[19:10] <james147> bhargava: what version of kubuntu/kde?
[19:10] <bhargava> @james147: using kubuntu 10.04
[19:11]  * james147 cant remember what system settings looked like back then.... tis so old now
[19:12] <bhargava> @james147: kde version is 4.4.5 Qt: 4.6.2
[19:13] <james147> bhargava: well ^^ as far as i can remember the dialog is about the same in 4.4, though I have no clue where it is in that version :)
[19:14] <bhargava> @james147: Thanks for your time. I'll look for it
[19:14] <james147> although, if i recall... it dident work as well in the past, 4.5, and 4.6 had it working much better, you might want to consider upgrading (there are many other bug fixes and they are much more responsive as well)
[19:16] <bhargava> @james147: Sure, but for now I'll look around a bit for the option, look if it works and then install the new versions if required. The bugs have not bothered me till now so...
[19:17] <james147> its not only bugs, but i found 4.5 much more resposive, and so nicer to use in general
[19:18] <bhargava> james147: Oh is that then I would definitely give it a try
[19:18] <Peace-> james147: to me 4.5 nope
[19:19] <Peace-> james147: 4.4.2 for me was the best
[19:19] <Peace-> speed i mean
[19:19] <james147> Peace-: heh, each version just keeps getting faster for me :S
[19:20] <james147> Peace-: how much ram do you ahve?
[19:20]  * BluesKaj can't tell the diff , kde 4 has been fast for me perios :)
[19:20] <BluesKaj> er period
[19:20]  * DarthFrog even liked KDE 4.0. :-)
[19:20] <Peace-> james147: 1 gb
[19:21] <Peace-> james147: xD yea shame on me
[19:21] <james147> :) 1gig should be enough, though i tend to have at leat 2,
[19:22] <james147> Peace-: what graphics card?
[19:22] <Peace-> hahaha intel 945gm
[19:22] <Peace-> shame on me 2 xD
[19:22] <james147> :d my net books has that one... or a similar one... cant remember the numebrs, and it runs fine :D
[19:23] <Peace-> yea infact it runs fine
[19:23]  * Peace- on 11.04 no :(
[19:23] <james147> :D ... thats what you get on alpha though
[19:23] <Peace-> xD
[19:23] <james147> ^^ the installer crashed for me the last time i tryed it (in a vm though)
[19:24]  * Peace- (use alternate always)
[19:31] <YuraDoc> Hello. I go one pb. After some work in kununtu I got grub rescue
[19:31] <YuraDoc> and message "grub rescue"
[19:32] <YuraDoc> what i need to do to get in Xes again
[19:35] <james147> !grub2
[19:35] <YuraDoc> I launch kubuntu through wmware
[19:36] <YuraDoc> is it possible to restore?
[19:39] <YuraDoc> i had set set prefix=(hdX,Y)/boot/grub
[19:40] <YuraDoc> then insmod (hdX,Y)/boot/grub/linux.mod
[19:40] <YuraDoc> it wrote me no such disk
[19:59] <moussa> slt
[19:59] <moussa> aidez moi
[20:00] <moussa> jariv pa a telecharger chrome sur kubuntu
[20:03] <genii-around> !fr | moussa
[20:06] <moussa> merci
[20:06] <moussa> bonsoir
[20:06] <moussa> where can i download chrom for kubuntu
[20:06] <moussa> ?
[20:07] <james147> moussa: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[20:08] <DarthFrog> moussa:  sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[20:08] <Snowhog> moussa: Or http://distrowatch.com/
[20:08] <james147> heh
[20:26] <moussa> !
[20:35] <jsaw> hi
[20:36] <james147> hello jsaw
[20:36] <jsaw> hi james147 :)
[20:36] <jsaw> I'm lost once again: I'd like to file a bug report on launchpad about the pager behavior, package is plasma-desktop, but does not seem to exist...????
[20:37] <jsaw> james147: thanks for the pointer.  I ended up in #kontact and got some quite useful hints
[20:37] <james147> jsaw: why not https://bugs.kde.org/ ?
[20:38] <jsaw> hmmm, ...
[20:39] <jsaw> james147: I'm still used to my work style when I was working on the T2-Project...
[20:39] <james147> btw, whats wrong with its behaviour?
[20:40] <jsaw> james147: (ppl informed me about problems with the packages I maintained, then, I contacted the devs...)
[20:41] <jsaw> pager doesn't like '1 row', it displays it correctly as one row, but key bindings (Next/Prev) do not
[20:42] <jsaw> for shortcuts it behaves as n rows, where n is the number of virtual desktops...
[20:43] <jsaw> (to be more exact, it works when changing the configuration, but after next start this '1 versus n rows' appears)
[21:35] <bhargava> james147: do I compile kde 4.5/4.6 from source or is it available in the repositories
[21:36] <bhargava> does someone use kate for C development here
[21:36] <james147> bhargava: on 10.04 its avaible in the backs ports repo (if i remember correctly) "ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports"  (kde 4.5 that is)
[21:36] <james147> bhargava: 4.6rc wont be added to 10.04, but is in the beta ppa for 10.10
[21:37]  * james147 suggest upgrading to 10.10 ...
[21:37] <bhargava> james147: I just read somewhere that backports usually have software still in test state.... So does it cause any problems
[21:38] <james147> backports has stable programs of a newer major version, beta has prerelease software in it
[21:40] <FloridaGuy> i right click on a panel icon...click icon settings....change the icon...to want i want...but it dosent change
[21:40] <moses> what program does KDE use to config networks?
[21:41] <james147> moses: "network-manager"   << you can control it through the network managment widget
[21:41] <FloridaGuy> moses: system settings.... and you will see network settings in there
[21:41] <moses> it didnt open
[21:41] <moses> im trying to run it from the CLI
[21:41] <moses> any ideas
[21:42] <bhargava> james147: Thanks for the answer. Also where can I get info regarding the kate editor. I have a problem using the CTags plugin that came along with Kate editor.
[21:43] <james147> moses: there was a commandline version, but as far as i know it required X anyway ... :p
[21:43] <moses> i have x installed
[21:43] <moses> im just trying to run it so it pops up
[21:43] <james147> moses: pops up?
[21:43] <moses> yea like on my blank desktop
[21:43] <james147> bhargava: you could try assking in #kde
[21:44] <james147> moses: if you have plasma-desktop running, then add the entwork managemnt widget to the deskop or panel
[21:44] <Rioting_Pacifist> do word documents support a <hr> or what is the best way to put lines into a text document (i'm using abiword but can switch to libre/etc if required)
[21:44] <moses> i cant
[21:44] <moses> i can only run the programs
[21:45] <moses> whats the widgit program name?
[21:45] <FloridaGuy> moses: the wiget is on your panel
[21:46] <moses> i have a different wm running
[21:46] <james147> moses: alt+f2: Network managment    i think will launch the widget in a window... though i think it might only work with kde 4.6 or possibally 4.5
[21:46] <FloridaGuy> mine looks like a network cable plug
[21:46] <moses> hmm
[21:46] <james147> moses: do you have plasma-desktop running?
[21:46] <moses> nope different WM
[21:46] <moses> but i want to run KDE stuff
[21:46] <james147> moses: its not a window manager...
[21:47] <moses> basically all i have is a black background and a terminal open
[21:47] <FloridaGuy> alt f2 brings up run screen or search witch ever it is
[21:47] <james147> why are you not running plasma-desktop? and if you dont want to then i suggest using the gnome applet (nm-applet)
[21:48] <yofel> or knetworkmanager (install network-manager-kde)
[21:49] <yofel> but I think both knm and nm-applet require some kind of panel running (or systray/notification area rather)
[21:49] <moses> hmmm
[21:50] <moses> so theres no straight up program?
[21:50] <yofel> moses: you can always use wpa_supplicant from the command line for wireless connections
[21:50] <yofel> read the documentation on how to use it
[22:09] <Darothane> hey guys, I'm trying to get java installed under ubuntu 10.04 x64 but i can't find the package name anywhere to install, can anyone help?
[22:11] <james147> openjdk-jre  i think
[22:12] <Darothane> couldn't find it :(
[22:12] <Darothane> thanks for trying though
[22:13] <yofel> Darothane: openjdk-6-jre
[22:13] <yofel> Darothane: and icedtea6-plugin for the webbrowser plugin
[22:13]  * Darothane loves yofel
[22:36] <komputes> Where does kmail store its contacts?
[22:37] <Snowhog> komputes: What version of Kubuntu and KDE are you running?
[22:38] <komputes> Snowhog: before nepomuk and the database thing. Just looking where in my home dir kmail is looking/storing the contacts
[22:39] <Snowhog> komputes: ~/.local/share/contacts/
[22:39] <komputes> Snowhog: cheers
[22:41] <komputes> Snowhog: nope, anywhere else you can think of?
[22:41] <komputes> i see an akonadi folder in share, don't see a contacts folder in my backup which was before nepomuk tried to update it
[22:42] <komputes> btw, kaddressbook cant see the contacts but kmail can
[22:45] <komputes> Snowhog: my backup is from 8.04, where were contacts located back then?
[22:46] <Snowhog> komputes: Open Kmail. Click on Contacts. In the pane that shows the contacts, right-click on the folder and click on folder properties.
[22:47] <komputes> ~/.strigi/clucene_8o2.cfs is about 34MB this may be it...
[22:47] <komputes> ok i will so as you say
[22:49] <komputes> Snowhog: Click on Contacts <- don't see this, I have to write an email and click "Select..."
[22:50] <komputes> Snowhog: opening kaddressbook is buggy - show no contacts at all, but all my contacts can be seen in the "Select..." window
[22:51] <Snowhog> komputes:  $HOME/Mail contains your actual mail messages. $HOME/.kde/share/config/kmailrc and $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ contain your KMail account and filter information. $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf contains the addressbook entries.
[22:51] <komputes> Snowhog: looking, fingers crossed
[22:54] <komputes> Snowhog: thanks, I think they have been found. Lifesaver that's what you are!
[22:54] <komputes> heres lots of 'em
[22:54] <komputes> theres*
[22:54] <Snowhog> komputes: :)
[23:13] <PasNox> hello i'm looking for how i can use squashfs with lzma support in kubuntu 10.10 ?
[23:13] <PasNox> any idea ?
[23:13] <PasNox> it seem squashfs tools of kubuntu only has zlib support
[23:38] <nicklas_> hello
[23:38] <james147> Hello nicklas_
[23:39] <nicklas_> you know if there is some way to get pulse in wine? not the oss way
[23:40] <james147> try asking #winehq
[23:40] <nicklas_> ty, done that
[23:41] <nicklas_> will kde 4.6 hit the kubuntu updates repos or backports when its released in 2 days?
[23:43] <yofel> in backports
[23:43] <nicklas_> hm ok, then i will probably have to reconfigure alot
[23:43] <nicklas_> there are alot of new functions, phew
[23:44] <nicklas_> like kwallet will be removed in favor for some other app, dont remember the name
[23:44] <nicklas_> ive just gotten it as i want, have to empty my home and reconfigure again, argh
[23:46]  * james147 dident think kwallet was being replaced in 4.6...
[23:47] <nicklas_> james147: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.6-beta1.php/ and http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.6_Feature_Plan
[23:48] <nicklas_> ksecretserviced
[23:49] <yofel> hm, I don't think that made it for 4.6 - or I didn't notice it
[23:49] <Spaztic_One> should kubuntu be running a little sluggishly on a 2 ghz dual core with 3 gb of ram?
[23:49] <james147> nicklas_: no mention of it in the first one
[23:49] <james147> and the second still says in progress, suggesting it wont make it
[23:49] <nicklas_> james147: yeah, your probably right
[23:50] <james147> ^^ also i still seem to ahve kwallet, on the rc2
[23:50] <nicklas_> james147: ok
[23:50] <yofel> Spaztic_One: define 'sluggish' - is it still sluggish without compositing on?
[23:50] <james147> although, that means it will probally be ready and polished for 4.7 :D
[23:50] <yofel> I have kwallet too 4.6.0
[23:51]  * james147 is looking forward to seeing if the new system will be better then kwallet though :D
[23:51] <nicklas_> how can you be running 4.6.0 when its not released?
[23:51] <james147> ^^ when it finaly comes
[23:51] <james147> nicklas_: rc2
[23:51] <Spaztic_One> yofel: Don't know what compositing is. Gnome (ubuntu) runs fine though.
[23:51] <james147> its in the beta repos
[23:51] <yofel> nicklas_: I'm a packager, so I already have the tars
[23:52] <james147> (if i remember correctly)
[23:52] <yofel> Spaztic_One: go to systemsettings -> desktop effects and turn them off
[23:53] <Spaztic_One> yofel: one moment, switching back to kde
[23:53] <nicklas_> but composoting shouldnt be sluggish with those specs that he has?
[23:54] <yofel> depends on graphics card / driver in that case
[23:54] <james147> ^^ could be if the processing is done on the cpu
[23:54] <nicklas_> yeah
[23:54] <yofel> but 'sluggissh' is very vagure
[23:54] <nicklas_> what card do you have spaz ?
[23:54] <yofel> *vague
[23:54] <james147> yeah ^^ and very subjective
[23:54] <james147> he quit
[23:55] <nicklas_> ah, have join/leave and status change deactivated
[23:57] <bartek> hej
[23:58] <nicklas_> bartek: swedish?
[23:59] <yofel> polish from the hostmask
[23:59] <bartek> pl
[23:59] <nicklas_> hej is swedish for hi
[23:59] <yofel> good to know ^
[23:59] <yofel> ^^
[23:59] <Spaztic_One> yofel: Hey, back, and I checked. Compositing is off.


[07:16] <zetheroo> finitoo is spamming me in the #ubuntu channel ... "free shows .... " etc ... :P
[07:23] <ikonia> lets see
[07:24] <zetheroo> it was in personal chat window .. not in the main ..
[07:24] <ikonia> yeah, I got it from my test drone account
[07:24] <ikonia> all sorted
[07:25] <zetheroo> thanks ;)
 Hey! One Spammer is here! Kick Out She : user : cutegirl99
[10:32] <k1l_> can someone confirm?
[10:33] <ikonia> nothing in my test account
[10:33] <ikonia> however there are notes on cutegirl previously
[10:33] <ikonia> (not cutegirl99 though)
[10:34] <MasterPiece> Hi, one Spammer bot is in #ubuntu with "cutegirl99" account
[10:34] <ikonia> we are looking at it at the moment
[10:37] <MasterPiece> Are you know what is the message in Spam?
[10:37] <ikonia> not at the moment
[10:37] <ikonia> but it doesn't really matter
[10:38] <MasterPiece> ok, Can I left here?
[10:39] <ikonia> cool
[10:39] <ikonia> thanks for your help
[10:42] <MasterPiece> YW
[18:56] <genii> When this crap starts it usually goes on all day
[19:48] <genii> I wonder if cyberdine will actually go to -ot
[19:48] <Jordan_U> I think they will. Let's see how good my crystal ball is.
[19:49] <Jordan_U> :)
[19:49] <genii> Good call
[20:39] <Pici> can anyone make sense of IRBIS?
[20:40] <bazhang> he's speaking multiple languages
[20:40] <Pici> Is he making sense in any of them?
[20:41] <Ajkthx> wait, what's going on?
[20:45] <Pici> Ajkthx: I am an operator.  Is there something that we can help you with?
[20:46] <Ajkthx> i was told to come back in 24 hours yesterday after i read the guidelines and whatnot to get unbanned from ubuntu
[20:46] <Ajkthx> so im here, 24 hours later
[20:51] <Ajkthx> ...
[20:52] <Pici> Sorry, my ban log access is not working at the moment.
[20:52] <Ajkthx> so am i permabanned?
[20:53] <Pici> I'm looking for another op to take a look at this for you.
[20:53] <genii> Ajkthx: I have reviewed the logs of that day and believe that you can probably be unbanned now. Please remember that the main #ubuntu channel is for support of Ubuntu only and not other distributions.
[20:53] <Ajkthx> k
[20:54] <genii> Ajkthx: Try to enter again perhaps 2-3 minutes
[20:54] <Ajkthx> okay. it still says im unbanned right now
[20:55] <Ajkthx> banned*
[20:55] <Ajkthx> sorry
[20:57] <genii> Ajkthx: Work took me away for a bit. You should be able to enter now.
[20:58] <Ajkthx> ah, thanks
[20:58] <genii> @comment 64419 Reviewed, ban lifted.
[21:20] <Ajkthx> genii
[21:20] <Ajkthx> im unbanned from the channel but it looks like i'm not allowed to speak
[21:22] <ikonia> I see the proble,
[21:22] <ikonia> problem
[21:22] <ikonia> one moment please.
[21:25] <ikonia> Ajkthx: you should be fine now
[21:25] <Ajkthx> it still says i can't send to channel
[21:26] <ikonia> you've left the channel
[21:26] <ikonia> join the channel and try
[21:26] <Ajkthx> im in the channel
[21:26] <ikonia> ok, you're back now and it still says you can't send to the channel ?
[21:26] <Ajkthx>  Set by phunyguy!~vortex@unaffiliated/phunyguy on Fri Sep 05 21:41:30 2014
 test
[21:26] <Ajkthx> #ubuntu Cannot send to channel
 ikonia, show off :D
[21:26] <ikonia> one moment
[21:27] <ikonia> try now ?
[21:27] <Ajkthx> did you see it
[21:27] <ikonia> my fault
[21:27] <ikonia> yes
[21:28] <Ajkthx> thank you
[21:28] <ikonia> no problem
[21:30] <ikonia> Ajkthx: if you're all working and fine now, would you mind /parting this channel incase others need help please ?
[21:31] <phunyguy> erm?
[21:31] <phunyguy> oh he pasted a bunch of junk
[21:31] <ikonia> where ?
[21:31] <phunyguy> [17:26:44] <Ajkthx>  Set by phunyguy!~vortex@unaffiliated/phunyguy on Fri Sep 05 21:41:30 2014
[21:31] <phunyguy> I set the topic I guess
[21:31] <phunyguy> he just grabbed that in the paste
[21:31] <ikonia> where did he paste that ?
[21:31] <phunyguy> about 10-15 lines ago..
[21:32] <phunyguy> in here
[21:32] <phunyguy> was just wondering why I got highlighted
[21:32] <phunyguy> sorry, didn't mean to confuse
[21:32] <ikonia> no problem
[21:34] <genii> @comment 64310 Will not unban.
[21:34] <genii> @comment 64312 Will not unban.
[21:34] <genii> @comment 64314 Will not unban.
[21:35] <genii> It's from all that !ops nonsense the other day


[00:14] <Khronos> is there a way to enable the dhcp daemon on only one interface?
[00:16] <vano> Just installed debian-server with tomcat, however the app server doesnt seem to be serving pages, even the examples which are already installed do not work (they are rendered as plain text). This is an untweaked brand new installation. Any ideas?
[00:16] <vano> sorry, I meant ubuntu-server, not debian.
[00:20] <VK7HSE> Khronos: in your /etc/default directory there is a file called dhcp3-server in this is where you define what interfaces you want your dhcp server to serve on ;-)
[00:29] <roy_hobbs> I'm trying to install some drivers.  I encounter this during "make install" Makefile:98: *** Linux kernel source not configured - missing version.h.  Stop.
[01:00] <Khronos> thanks VK7HSE
[01:00] <Khronos> added that
[01:06] <kansan> how often do folks here run mysql backups?
[01:06] <kansan> specially if they are incremental
[01:14] <sommer> kansan: I run daily fulls, but my databases aren't that big
[01:17] <kansan> how often
[01:17] <kansan> oh daily
[01:17] <andol> same here
[01:18] <andol> no big databases in my case either thought. nothing bigger than a few hundred megabytes.
[01:22] <evarlast> daily
[01:29] <isaacsm> daily mysql backups on several large production dbs
[02:46] <kansan> can someone tell me why mysql wont shut down?  there is no output in /var/log/syslog;  /var/log/mysql/ ....  ubuntu hardy
[02:48] <mathiaz> kansan: try /var/log/daemon.log
[02:50] <kansan> MatBoy, theres stuff about mysql there
[02:50] <kansan> but nothinga bout why it failed
[02:51] <kansan> is it weird that i would have two mysqlld_safe's  :  http://pastie.org/387877
[03:13] <MatBoy> kansan: ?
[03:13] <MatBoy> I love you too !
[03:13] <kansan> MatBoy, ;p
[03:13] <MatBoy> kansan: ok, we need to make love now
[03:14] <MatBoy> actually I want to sleep ;)
[03:18] <MatBoy> kansan: sorry, next time better ;)
[03:52] <Kkoala> hi i need help with an install
[03:55] <Rafael_> i have software raid on ubuntu server, i have test it multiple ways and it works beatifull. something very strange i have notice: very often the raid goes into degrade mode and one of the drive disapers, i thoight was a physical problem wth the drive, i have test all the 3 drives with Western Digital softare and drive are fine, is this a now issue with software raid
[07:03] <|Sigma|> hello
[07:07] <|Sigma|> anyone interested in giving me a hand? I have a strange problem... wireless card refuses to get an ipv4 address, but it manages to get an ipv6 easily enough
[07:12] <twb> "get an IP address" meaning via DHCP?
[07:12] <|Sigma|> correct
[07:12] <twb> Is this really a question for -server?
[07:12] <|Sigma|> well, I AM running server edition
[07:12] <twb> "server edition" is backed by the same package archive; the main difference is the default package list.
[07:13] <twb> Is NetworkManager running?  Does /etc/network/interfaces refer to the wireless interface?
[07:13] <twb> If "yes" to the latter question, does it refer to "inet6" instead of "inet"?
[07:13] <|Sigma|> no GUI, hence no network manager. /etc/network/interface does refer to wlan
[07:13] <|Sigma|> and give me a sec for the last one
[07:14] <twb> NetworkManager has no GUI.
[07:14] <|Sigma|> no, it refers to "inet'"
[07:14] <|Sigma|> huh
[07:14] <|Sigma|> well, I don't have it installed, at least >_>
[07:14] <twb> The applet is a separate, wrapper program that interacts with NM via the dbus protocol.
[07:15] <twb> aptitude search network-manager should tell you if it's installed, just to double-check.
[07:15] <twb> IME most of the network problems on Ubuntu are caused by that bloody piece of shit.
[07:17] <|Sigma|> not installed, just checked again
[07:17] <|Sigma|> give me a second, I just disabled ipv6 globally (I hope)... dunno why I didn't think of that earlier
[07:18] <|Sigma|> I've been fighting this beast for about 5 hours, just missing the IP now... I'm happy it can scan
[07:20] <twb> |Sigma|: OK, what happens if you manually run "dhclient foo0", where foo0 is the interface name
[07:23] <|Sigma|> fails miserably after a couple tries
[07:23] <twb> OK, next I would check the DHCP server.
[07:23] <twb> After that, I would try wireshark/tshark sniffing of the packets.
[07:23] <|Sigma|> well, all other computers on my network are getting their IPs perfectly fine
[07:24] <|Sigma|> so DHCP server not a problem
[07:24] <twb> |Sigma|: are they getting their IPs over wifi, or ethernet?
[07:25] <|Sigma|> wifi
[07:25] <twb> OK, time to start packet sniffing.
[07:25] <|Sigma|> time to look for a good sniffer that runs on mac, then
[07:26] <ScottK> tdpdump should work.
[07:26] <|Sigma|> thanks, I'll try it out
[07:26] <twb> tcpdump pisses me off, compared to tshark
[07:27] <twb> YMMV, of course.
[07:27] <|Sigma|> I might give static DHCP a try first though
[07:28] <|Sigma|> *sigh* no go, time to look up that sniffer
[08:02]  * |Sigma| feels really really stupid
[08:08] <|Sigma|> so, the only thing it picks up is a LOT of SSDP protocol connections from the router
[08:45] <kraut> moin
[09:04] <twb> |Sigma|: did you work out what the problem was?
[09:04] <|Sigma|> looks like the router isn't answering ARP request
[09:05] <|Sigma|> the NIC keeps on spamming who-has messages
[09:05] <|Sigma|> but I don't get it
[09:05] <|Sigma|> since all my other computers work fine
[09:05] <mario_> Hello!
[09:05] <|Sigma|> hi
[09:05] <mario_> i have added the line "<IP_ADDRESS> www.foobar.de foobar.de" to my /etc/hosts
[09:06] <mario_> but if i ping www.foobar.de i still get a official ip.
[09:06] <mario_> it works with foobar.de (then i get <IP_ADDRESS>)
[09:06] <mario_> any idea if ubuntu it caching the dns stuff somewhere?
[09:07] <|Sigma|> mario_: how are you accessing the domain? web browser?
[09:08] <|Sigma|> clear out the browser;s domain if yes
[09:08] <|Sigma|> if no.... no clue >_
[09:08] <|Sigma|> >_>
[09:08] <mario_> command line ping :)
[09:08] <|Sigma|> er, I mean, browser's cache
[09:08] <|Sigma|> heh
[09:09] <|Sigma|> sorry man, no clue.... it shouldn't :p
[09:09] <mario_> well, why use the browser if its not even workign correctly on my console? :)
[09:09] <mario_> hehe, thanks anyway
[09:09] <|Sigma|> restart?
[09:09] <mario_> already done, but now i feel like a windows users.  I wish my problem was that easy <_<
[09:14] <mario_> what have you got?
[09:14] <|Sigma|> mario_: by the way, google says restarting the networking daemon clears the cache... so technically your reboot DID clear it up :p
[09:14] <|Sigma|> a wireless NIC that refuses to get an IP address
[09:15] <|Sigma|> I've come a long way though... at the beginning it refused to show up in the system at all
[09:37] <nobse> hi
[09:38]  * |Sigma| waves
[09:46] <soren> |Sigma|: Does the dhcp server show anything in the logs?
[09:47] <|Sigma|> soren: the log shows ARP requests get no answer :s
[09:47] <dayo2> where is the init script for logrotate in 8.04?
[09:47] <soren> dayo2: There is none?
[09:47] <soren> it runs from cron.
[09:48] <soren> |Sigma|: So it's statically configured?
[09:48] <dayo2> soren: i've edited /etc/logrotate.conf   do i need to restart cron or something?
[09:48] <soren> dayo2: No.
[09:48] <dayo2> soren: ok, thanks :-)
[09:49] <|Sigma|> soren: no, pure DHCP. I did try static though, and no go
[09:49] <soren> |Sigma|: arp is used to map ip's to mac addresses.
[09:49] <soren> |Sigma|: If it doesn't have an IP yet (since it's trying to get one via dhcp), how does ARP factor into it?
[09:50] <|Sigma|> no clue, yet it shows up in the logs
[09:50] <soren> What does?
[09:50] <|Sigma|> HAH
[09:50] <|Sigma|> IT WORKS
[09:50] <soren> Exactly what are the arp requests you see?
[09:50] <|Sigma|> so stupid
[09:51] <|Sigma|> soren: it was doing who-has requests that never got answered
[09:51] <|Sigma|> you remember earlier when I was complaining that all I could get were IPv6 IPs?
[09:51] <|Sigma|> well, I disabled IPv6 globally...
[09:52] <|Sigma|> I just re-enabled it, and everything decided to work
[09:52] <|Sigma|> no clue what the hell I did to fix it
[09:52] <|Sigma|> but I'm glad it works
[09:52] <|Sigma|> signal is incredibly low though
[09:53] <|Sigma|> but speed doesn't seem hindered :D
[09:53] <dayo2> this is a sample of my /var/log/kern.log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/117586/   can someone explain to me how to read that?
[09:55] <|Sigma|> soren: sorry for having been such a pain. I created my own problem... but I did learn how to sniff packets, and i thank you for that :p
[09:55] <soren> Heh :)
[09:56]  * |Sigma| is outta here. 9 hours straight fixing a friggin NIC....
[09:56] <|Sigma|> ciao!
[10:04] <ivoks> is it only me or...
[10:04] <ivoks> checking for gcc...4.2.4
[10:04] <ivoks> checking for kernel gcc version...4.2.3
[10:04] <ivoks> this doesn't look right
[12:34] <dmacnutt> anyone have any web resources for "Best Practices" in terms of server setup and hardening?
[12:50] <kinnaz> anyone has used ACL with OCFS2 ?
[13:02] <sergevn> hi, maybe i cant ask my question here.
[13:02] <sergevn> I have a bash script that calls a java-jar application, it exits with an error.
[13:02] <sergevn> so i 2> /dev/null the bash script
[13:03] <sergevn> probleem is cron doesnt, is it possible to fix this?
[13:07] <ivoks> cron does what you tell it to do
[13:07] <sergevn> hi ivoks
[13:07] <ivoks> so if you put shell_script 2> /dev/null, it won't give you error output
[13:07] <ivoks> cron only mails you output of the command
[13:08] <ivoks> so, it's up to you to redirect output of that command to /dev/null
[13:08] <sergevn> ah than i have to create a shell script, for the shellscript
[13:08] <ivoks> ?
[13:09] <ivoks> put in cron:
[13:09] <ivoks> * * * my_shell_script 2> /dev/null
[13:09] <sergevn> ah ok, i put it in /etc/cron.hourly :)
[13:09] <ivoks> then make sure that script doesn't provide output
[13:10] <ivoks> if that script calls java file
[13:10] <sergevn> #!/bin/bash
[13:10] <sergevn> sudo -u serge java -jar ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.jar -p ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.properties 2> /dev/null
[13:10] <ivoks> redirect output of java program to /dev/null
[13:10] <sergevn> yeah ive done that, still error from cron
[13:10] <ivoks> sudo -u serge "java -jar blablabla 2>/dev/null"
[13:11] <ivoks> otherwise you are redirecting sudo's stderr
[13:11] <sergevn> aah ok :)
[13:11] <sergevn> now seeing the logic :)
[13:15] <UndertakerX2> can some one give me more info on the error "bind failed: EACCES"?
[13:16] <sergevn> ivoks: now it expects the commented command phrase as one single command
[13:17] <sergevn> ivoks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117635/
[13:20] <ivoks> does /root//src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.jar exist?
[13:20] <sergevn> root?
[13:20] <sergevn> it's invoked by the user serge right?
[13:20] <ivoks> but enviroment is from root
[13:20] <ivoks> sudo -i -u user
[13:21] <ivoks> so, like this:
[13:21] <ivoks> sudo -i -u serge -c "java -jar ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.jar -p ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.properties 2> /dev/null"
[13:21] <ivoks> man sudo can help you
[13:22] <ivoks> er... no:)
[13:23] <ivoks> sudo -i -u serge java -jar ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.jar -p ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.properties 2> /dev/null
[13:23] <ivoks> this should work
[13:27] <sergevn> lol now the command isnt executed at all :D
[13:28] <ivoks> how do you know?
[13:29] <sergevn> because the function of the script doesnt work :)
[13:29] <sergevn> it is supposed to leech email from outlookwebaccess and forward it, takes some seconds, now none, and mail doesnt arrive :)
[13:30] <ivoks> shy do you use sudo anyway?
[13:30] <sergevn> hmm /usr/bin/java: /usr/bin/java: cannot execute binary file
[13:31] <sergevn> because i dont want the script to run as root :)
[13:31] <sergevn> but now ill use crontab instead of cron.hourly
[13:31] <ivoks> then edit users' crontab
[13:31] <ivoks> crontab -e
[13:31] <ivoks> 00 * * * java -jar ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.jar -p ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.properties 2> /dev/null
[13:32] <sergevn> where does 00 stand for?
[13:32] <sergevn> every minute?
[13:32] <ivoks> no
[13:33] <ivoks> at 00 minutes
[13:33] <ivoks> * - every hour
[13:33] <ivoks> * * * - every day
[13:33] <ivoks> * * * * * - every minute
[13:33] <ivoks> 0 * * * * - every hour
[13:35] <sergevn> thanks
[13:49] <tgbryano_> im using hardy server on a 16 processor server and its only showing 8 cpus and an error in the logs saying max processors reached, how can i get it to see all the cpus?
[13:50] <ivoks> which kernel do you use?
[13:50] <tgbryano_> 2.6.24-16-server
[13:51] <ivoks> right...
[13:51] <ivoks> max. number of supported cpu in hardy is 8
[13:52] <ivoks> in intrepid it is 64
[13:52] <tgbryano_> darn, is there a kernel available to resolve this?, i was looking to stay with hardy as its lts..
[13:52] <ivoks> well, you could rebuild kernel
[13:52] <ivoks> and set this option to higher
[13:53] <tgbryano_> whens the next lts out? is it april?
[13:53] <ivoks> april next year
[13:53] <ivoks> every 2 years
[13:53] <ivoks> let me ask kernel team if there are plans to support >8 in hardy
[13:53] <tgbryano_> ok thanks, i think i will have to go with intrepid, should be able to do a dist-update to the next lts without much problem
[13:54] <tgbryano_> ok thanks
[13:54] <ivoks> not dist-upgrade
[13:54] <ivoks> do-release-upgrade
[13:54] <ivoks> that will do everything for you to jump from 8.10 to 9.04 then to 9.10 and finally to next-lts 10.04
[13:55] <ivoks> newsflash...
[13:55] <ivoks> 64bit hardy supports 64cpu
[13:56] <tgbryano_> what about the 32 bit?
[13:57] <tgbryano_> they are reluctant to use 64 bit as we are using 32 bit oracle..
[13:57] <ivoks> 8
[13:57] <ivoks> 64bit version supports 32bit apps
[13:57] <ivoks> just put linux32 in front :)
[13:58] <tgbryano_> will it be unstable? im trying to move our servers over to ubuntu, we use oracle 9i at the moment
[13:58] <ivoks> i never used 32bit oracle on 64bit arch
[13:59] <ivoks> i've used firefox only :)
[14:01] <tgbryano_> lol oh well i will find out
[14:02] <ivoks> tgbryano_: let me know how it goes
[14:03] <tgbryano_> will do, thanks for your help
[14:03] <ivoks> i have oracle on one server too, and would like to move to 64bit :)
[14:43] <dmacnutt> anyone have any web resources for "Best Practices" in terms of server setup and hardening?
[14:49] <UndertakerX2> can some one give me more info on the error "bind failed: EACCES"?
[15:17] <andylockran> UndertakerX2: what was thecommand you ran to generate the error ?
[15:20] <soren> UndertakerX2: It's usally due to attempting to bind to a <1024 port as non-root.
[15:20] <andylockran> soren: yeah, was going to check the command then recommend running 'sudo '
[16:06] <melter> i used to get firewall messages like "IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= ..." in /var/log/messages, but they're no longer there. is there some setting that will put them back?
[16:06] <soren> melter: ufw logging on
[16:07] <melter> soren: i don't use ufw, i have my own iptables script
[16:08] <melter> i'm using 8.04, btw
[16:09] <melter> i just tested my firewall, and it seems to work
[16:09] <melter> it's stopping traffic, it's just not logging it anymore
[16:11] <ivoks> check you script then
[16:12] <ivoks> your
[16:13] <melter> ivoks: what do i look for? is there some iptables argument?
[16:14] <ivoks> -j LOG
[16:14] <melter> i can't remember making any changes other than adding the occasional ip
[16:15] <melter> ok, i'll look, thanks
[16:17] <melter> ivoks: thanks! that line was uncommented for some reason
[16:18] <ivoks> bye all
[16:27] <andol> exit
[17:17] <bdmurray> kirkland: yeah for developer doc search!
[17:19] <Blah78> Hi, I have a quick question, maybe someone can help me out: I'm trying to install a minimal xorg server, just xorg-core, xorg-input-kbd and xorg-video-vesa but apt will always try to install every single xorg package it knows. Is there any way to avoid this and install just those three packages and the real dependencies? btw I'm coming from gentoo, and I know I shouldn't install X on a...
[17:19] <Blah78> ...server, but this is not for a server exactly ;)
[17:27] <andyfailran> 5/5
[17:27] <kirkland> bdmurray: :-)  \o/
[17:36] <lmr> dendrobates: Hey Rick
[17:36] <dendrobates> lmr: hi
[17:36] <lmr> dendrobates: How's it going? :)
[17:36] <dendrobates> lmr: good, and you.
[18:26] <slicslak> i just setup ubuntu in vmware2.  from a totally different linux box, i ssh into the new one, but i can't rsync.  the rsync error:  ubuntuhostname: Connection refused
[18:26] <slicslak> usually rsync just works when ssh does.  any ideas?
[18:27] <Deeps> specifiy -e ssh when you run rsync?
[18:27] <sommer> kirkland: is there supposed to be an ecryptfs kernel module for jaunty?
[18:29] <slicslak> Deeps, yep thanks.  odd.  normally that's default isn't it?
[18:31] <Deeps> slicslak: dunno, might be an ubuntu default? i dont use just ubuntu though, so i've always specified
[18:31] <slicslak> right
[18:32] <slicslak> i think i'm on a centos client.  not really used to RH.  i'll have to remember to specify that now.
[18:54] <mrcoodles>  hello everyone, i just installed ubuntu server 8.10 as a guest os on vmware, under windows vista - and i have no clue how to give it internet access. can anyone help ?
[18:55] <ivoks> that really doesn't depend on guest, but on host
[18:56] <ivoks> by default, ubuntu server installation will look for dhcp server to get an IP
[18:56] <ivoks> if there's no dhcp server, it will ask user to give information about ip
[18:56] <ivoks> if you have't typed ip address and stuff like that, then your vmware has a dhcp server (which is normal and default)
[18:57] <ivoks> now, why your guest os (in this case ubuntu) can't access internet is really a question for vmware and/or host operating system
[18:58] <mrcoodles> it usually works on desktoplinuxes. my host os connection is via pppoe; im a bit confused as to what im supposed to add to the /etc/network/interfaces file.
[18:59] <ivoks> well, what's there now?
[19:00] <mrcoodles> there's two lines for the loopback interfaces, which is working
[19:00] <mrcoodles> and somethign labeled The primary network interface
[19:00] <mrcoodles> auto eth0
[19:00] <mrcoodles> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[19:00] <mrcoodles> and i have no clue what they mean.
[19:03] <ivoks> this means that:
[19:03] <ivoks> a) eth0 interface will be up on boot
[19:03] <ivoks> b) it will look at dhcp server for address
[19:03] <kirkland> sommer: it's built in
[19:08] <sommer> kirkland: ah
[19:08] <kirkland> sommer: part of the faster boot time work
[19:09] <sommer> kirkland: I get this error when trying to do a mount -t ecryptfs /srv /srv  http://paste.ubuntu.com/117781/
[19:10] <sommer> kirkland: and was wondering if it was because of the module not being there
[19:10] <kirkland> sommer: interesting, open a bug, would you?
[19:11] <sommer> kirkland: sure, I get a similar, but different, error when trying the ecryptfs-setup-private utility as well
[19:12] <sommer> kirkland: I'll post the output of both in the bug, thanks
[19:12] <kirkland> sommer: i was just rolling out the -70 release right now
[19:12] <kirkland> sommer: i'd like to get these fixed in that one
[19:12] <mrcoodles> anyone has some additional clues about my vmware network thingie ?
[19:13] <ivoks> mrcoodles: well, have you tested if guest can access internet, if yes, how?
[19:14] <mrcoodles> ivoks well, pinging google.
[19:14] <ivoks> bad test
[19:15] <ivoks> try nslookup www.google.com
[19:15] <ivoks> if that works, you have link
[19:15] <mrcoodles> dns not working either.
[19:15] <ivoks> ok, so now you know at least dns doesn't work
[19:15] <ivoks> try this
[19:15] <ivoks> mtr <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:16] <mrcoodles> oops silly, me , i pinged the ip and that worked.
[19:16] <mrcoodles> so seems like just the dns is missing.
[19:16] <ivoks> so, dns is in /etc/resolv.conf
[19:16] <ivoks> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[19:16] <ivoks> to see what's your DNS
[19:16] <ivoks> your DNS is being provided by DHCP
[19:17] <mrcoodles> its <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:17] <ivoks> that's from vmware
[19:20] <mrcoodles> uhm, probably.
[19:21] <sommer> yay for ivoks and email :)
[19:23] <kees> ivoks: oh, we should totally compile postfix PIE if we've got dovecot that way.
[19:23] <ivoks> pie?
[19:24]  * ivoks confused :)
[19:24] <kees> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/BuiltPIE
[19:24] <ivoks> security stuff?
[19:24] <kees> ivoks: yeah
[19:24] <ivoks> kees: i'll leave that to you :)
[19:24] <kees> :)
[19:25] <lamont> kees: woot
[19:25] <kees> lamont: should be the same as we did for bind9
[19:25] <kees> oh..er
[19:26] <kees> nevermind!
[19:26] <kees> already done.  hahah
[19:26]  * kees goes to find some coffee
[19:26] <lamont> was postfix not done, then?
[19:26] <kees> I thought it hadn't been done, but it was on the list for intrepid.  I opened up the debian/rules and saw "export DEB_BUILD_HARDENING=1" :P
[19:27] <kees> right.  back to other work now
[19:29] <lamont> \o/
[19:31] <lamont> kees: let's put packit in ship-seed. :-p
[19:33] <kirkland> sommer: hmm, i was about to ecryptfs-setup-private just fine in a fresh jaunty
[19:33] <kirkland> sommer: can you tell me more about your error?
[19:35] <sommer> kirkland: sure, what should I look for
[19:35] <sommer> kirkland: I was testing it inside a kvm, if that matters
[19:35] <kirkland> sommer: me too
[19:35] <vimpulse> lllama:  go ahead and describe the long version whenever you're ready.  :)
[19:35] <kirkland> sommer: can you pastebin the dialog (sans passwords)
[19:35] <kirkland> sommer: and error messages?
[19:37] <sommer> kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117789/
[19:38] <kees> lamont: heh.  I've been trying to keep IDS out of main.  :)
[19:38] <mrcoodles> @ivoks i modified the nameserver from the local address vmware one to the one in windows. it works. im unbelievably happy.
[19:38] <kees> lamont: oh, not IDS, just an injector.
[19:38] <kees> lamont: how does packit compare to nemesis ?
[19:39] <kirkland> sommer: ls -alF $HOME
[19:40] <mrcoodles> ehm, can i get ubuntu server a gui ?
[19:40] <sommer> kirkland: ya, forgot to remove the previous Private folder here's a better paste with errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117791/
[19:40] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  yes, sudo aptitude install xorg-server, but why do you want one?
[19:40] <vimpulse> mrcoodles: oops i meant sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[19:40] <vimpulse> i think
[19:41] <mrcoodles> because it took me half an hour to figure out how to use vi.
[19:41] <sommer> kirkland: ls output http://paste.ubuntu.com/117792/
[19:41] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  then you should use nano :)
[19:41] <kirkland> sommer: dude
[19:41] <kirkland> sommer: why does root own Private and .Private
[19:41] <kirkland> sommer: did you "sudo" it at some point?
[19:41] <sommer> kirkland: nope
[19:42] <kirkland> sommer: okay, root should *not* own it
[19:42] <sommer> kirkland: should I scrap those and start over?
[19:42] <kirkland> sommer: could you sanitize your environment like so:
[19:42] <kirkland> sommer: sudo adduser foo
[19:42] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: can i ehm search by description or smth with that aptitude thingie ?
[19:42] <kirkland> sommer: then ssh foo@localhost
[19:42] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  yes.  sudo aptitude
[19:43] <kirkland> sommer: then ecryptfs-setup-private as foo
[19:43] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  will bring up the aptitude TUI.
[19:43] <sommer> kirkland: sure one sec
[19:44] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  but there are better options, like apt-cache search, which searches descriptions as well.  or www.freshmeat.net, which lists more packages than aptitude.  But do you know why you should never compile software yourself when possible and use aptitude instead?
[19:44] <sommer> kirkland: hrmm, it worked fine
[19:44] <sommer> kirkland: must have been something I did
[19:44] <kirkland> sommer: your other setup is unclean
[19:44] <kirkland> sommer: root should not own any of those files in your homedir
[19:45] <kirkland> sommer: that can easily happen if you sudo something you didn't need to sudo
[19:45] <kirkland> sommer: such as ecryptfs-setup-private
[19:45] <kirkland> sommer: sudo ecryptfs-setup-private would create the exact situation you have there
[19:45] <kirkland> well, it could
[19:45] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: because it's easier, lol ?
[19:46] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  yeah :)
[19:46] <sommer> kirkland: gotcha, I must have used sudo after trying the mount -t ecryptfs command
[19:46] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: ok, how do i highlight the search button on top, lol
[19:46] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  most stuff at freshmeat is also available in aptitude, you just have to apt-cache search and find out the package name.
[19:46] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  i don't remember.
[19:46] <vimpulse> you are probably new to Ubuntu.  I recommend you take out a good book about Ubuntu from your local library or buy one from www.abebooks.com btw.
[19:47] <kirkland> sommer: i am also having trouble with the mount -t ecryptfs command
[19:47] <kirkland> sommer: i'm debugging that now
[19:47] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  btw I am currently using vista so I can't check for you :(  anyone?
[19:47] <kirkland> sommer: that's a major bug
[19:47] <vimpulse> at least /me has cygwin
[19:47] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: me too.
[19:47] <kees> we should add molly-guard to the server seed.  :)
[19:47] <sommer> kirkland: ah cool... well cool in the sense that I didn't mess that up :)
[19:48] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  for the aptitude help, you press Control+T then move to the help menu I think.  for the manual:  cd /usr/share/doc/aptitude*
[19:49] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  ask again in 2 min if you don't figure out how to do what you want.
[19:49] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: oh great. now. how did you know this
[19:49] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  good memory thank god :)
[19:49] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  btw I made a mistake.  To install a GUI, do not xserver-xorg.  Instead, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[19:50] <vimpulse> *mrcoodles:  btw I made a mistake.  To install a GUI, do not install xserver-xorg.  Instead, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[19:51] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: ill probably run into trouble trying to do that. link to cool readables for noobs ? like a tutorial , anything but an 800-page book.
[19:51] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  the GUI comes with the "Add/Remove..." tool and the "synaptic" tool both of which are much nicer GUIs than aptitude's TUI.
[19:51] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  I dunno about alternatives books.  I don't read entire books, I just use them as references.  anyone know an answer to mrcoodles's question?
[19:51] <vimpulse> *alternatives to books
[20:02] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  ask in #ubuntu
[20:03] <vimpulse> lllama:  or, use a GUI tool, see if it succeeds, if it does then copy its output into a cron job command line
[20:05] <lllama> vimpulse: this is where I've got to: http://pastebin.com/d7cf3e4f8
[20:06] <lllama> inodes all different.
[20:06] <lllama> Same on CentOS.
[20:08] <vimpulse> lllama:  you wrote "Short version - we'd prefer certain data not to sit on a particular server for too long, so we're going to pull it off and wipe the machine each day. The snapshots will be used so that users can access an accurate copy of what they were doing."  What is the long version?
[20:09] <lllama> vimpulse: Longer. Just trust me that it has to happen that way.
[20:10] <vimpulse> I trust, but verify :)
[20:10] <vimpulse> so?
[20:11] <lllama> I'll tell you if I get it working.
[20:22] <phreestyle-work> question for the server gurus out there....is there a way I can move my eBox firewall configuration to Webmin?
[20:43] <phreestyle-work> is anyone even here?
[20:51] <Deeps> !webmin | phreestyle-work
[20:51] <phreestyle-work> Deeps: eBox DOES NOT WORK FOR ME!
[20:52] <Deeps> phreestyle-work: shout all you want, it wont change the fact that webmin isn't supported!
[20:52] <phreestyle-work> Webmin is working perfectly fine for me
[20:53] <phreestyle-work> eBox is the problem....I have made changes to the configuration files because eBox doesn't have the options I need...so whenever I make a change to ebox, it wants to overwrite my changes
[20:54] <phreestyle-work> Deeps: either eBox needs to stop trying to overwrite my files, or I need to stop using it
[20:54] <Deeps> phreestyle-work: file a bug on launchpad?
[20:54] <antdedyet> read the documentation?
[20:54] <phreestyle-work> Deeps: it's not a bug though.
[20:55] <Deeps> phreestyle-work: then i'm out of ideas, maybe the webmin guys can help you?
[20:55] <phreestyle-work> it's the way eBox works....if I make a change to a dansgaurdian config file, eBox wants to overwrite that file with its own settings if I make any changes inside eBox
[20:56] <antdedyet> write a patch?
[20:56] <antdedyet> so that one can include external, unaffected gui files
[20:57] <antdedyet> or find a more elegant approach.
[20:58] <phreestyle-work> well, here's the thing....I can edit everything I need in webmin....except for the eBox firewall settings. If I can disable ebox and use webmin's firewall interface, I don't need ebox anymore....which is fine
[20:58] <Deeps> sounds like a good idea
[20:59] <phreestyle-work> and I don't know how to write a patch....seems like a waste of time since everything but one small peice is taken care of
[21:36] <lamont> kees: haven't played with nemesis...  packit I'm a bit more biased about, given who the debian maintainer is...
[21:46] <kansan> is there some way of testing how fast a drive's I/O is?  and telling me if its good/bad?
[22:06] <jmarsden|work> kansan: Run iozone or bonnie benchmarks?  Or even just use hdparm -t -T /dev/sda  or whatever?  There is no way for the software to tell you what is "good or bad", you need to compare results with other drives and systems...
[22:37] <Doonz> hey guys, if im using software raid (mdadm) and i pull out a failed drive and put a new one in what do i have to do so that drive is seen?


[01:29] <Daekdroom> Oooh. Firefox 39 and Linux 4.0 are in the wily-proposed repos
[01:29] <Daekdroom> Too bad I didn't notice that while smallfoot- was here.
[08:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:26] <hyper_ch> hi BluesKaj
[12:26] <BluesKaj> hey hyper_ch
[12:26] <hyper_ch> what's up?
[12:27] <hyper_ch> I'm melting... it's lik 36° outside
[12:30] <BluesKaj> whoa, too hot
[12:31] <lordievader> That is.. Switzerland?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> rainy and 18 here
[12:32] <lordievader> 24 here.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> it's only 8:33 in the morning here
[12:38] <hyper_ch> you all have it so good
[16:55] <hyper_ch> in 5.10, how do I stop akonadi?
[16:56] <holstein> i would try http://ubuntuku.org/16/how-to-disable-nepomuk-akonadi/
[17:52] <lordievader> hyper_ch: You could disable it somewhere in the menu, couldn't you?
[17:52] <hyper_ch> not in 15.10 :(
[17:52] <hyper_ch> at least haven't found it yet
[17:53] <hyper_ch> but akonadictl should still work
[17:54] <lordievader> Hmm, let me spin up my Wily machine.
[17:54] <lordievader> Hmm, perhaps I should disable the grub menu. Bit pointless without a keyboard.
[17:54] <hyper_ch> no need to
[17:55] <lordievader> Yes there is. This introduces a delay of 30 seconds.
[17:55] <lordievader> It could (almost) fully boot in that time.
[17:56] <lordievader> Ah, right. Lightdm was broken.
[17:56] <hyper_ch> works fine here
[17:57] <lordievader> hyper_ch: Systemd refuses to enable lightdm since it is still a sysv init script or something. Haven't really looked at it.
[17:57] <hyper_ch> kubuntu boots fine and it uses lightdm IIRC
[17:58] <lordievader> Kubuntu uses sddm by default.
[17:58] <lordievader> Sddm does have an systemd service file.
[17:58] <hyper_ch> kdm, lightdm, sddm.... is there really a difference?
[18:00] <lordievader> Yes.
[18:00] <hyper_ch> that's what they want to make you believe
[18:00] <hyper_ch> even the ancient romans knew: Divide et impera!
[18:00] <lordievader> Anyways, Baloo can be disabled from the systemsettings.
[18:00] <lordievader> hyper_ch: No, I see the differences...
[18:00] <hyper_ch> I wonder how Baloo came into this discussion
[18:01] <lordievader> Baloo is the step after Nepomuk.
[18:01] <lordievader> And Akonadi and Nepomuk are usually mentioned together.
[18:01] <hyper_ch> I'm still in the #strigi channel if you remmeber
[18:02] <lordievader> Should I?
[18:05] <lordievader> Hmm, seems I do not have akonadi installed, anways configure through: kcmshell4 kcm_akonadi
[19:19] <hyper_ch> cool air is breezing in from the outside... yey
[19:51] <hyper_ch> kernel 4 in the repo :)


[00:02] <Ampelbein> pace_t_zulu: in the glib i would suppose
[00:02] <pace_t_zulu> Ampelbein: thank you
[00:27] <pace_t_zulu> Ampelbein:  how do i test the package using pbuilder
[00:27] <pace_t_zulu> i followed the instructions to build
[00:28] <pace_t_zulu> what is unclear is how to test the newly built package
[00:46] <Ampelbein> pace_t_zulu: sorry, was offline for a moment. you can install the package created by pbuilder with 'sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/pbuilder/result/<packagename>'
[00:55] <pace_t_zulu> Ampelbein: to be clear, pbuilder is just for building clean debs...
[00:56] <Ampelbein> pace_t_zulu: right. it provides a clean build environment so you can check if the build-depends specified are correct. and it does not pollute your working system with unnecessary -dev packages.
[00:56] <pace_t_zulu> cool
[00:57] <pace_t_zulu> but it doesn't provide a safe testing environment
[00:57] <geofft> for that, for something on the order of gnome-panel, you want a VM or a live CD
[00:59] <Ampelbein> pace_t_zulu: what geofft says. i use virtualbox for testing such intrusive changes.
[00:59] <Ampelbein> pace_t_zulu: you can define snapshots so you can always revert to a clean state.
[00:59] <pace_t_zulu> yeah... i am coming to realize that
[00:59] <pace_t_zulu> i am running ubuntu in vmware fusion
[01:00] <pace_t_zulu> on a mac pro
[01:00] <SuperLag> I just wanted to tell you guys that Jaunty ROCKS. Thanks for your work.
[01:02] <pace_t_zulu> lesson learned about taking snapshots... i my have done a bit of damage... i think i can clean it up though
[01:33]  * calc bets he will be sick within the next day or two :-\
[01:33]  * calc hopes whenever it inevitably happens that he will be well before he has to leave for barcelona
[01:36] <pace_t_zulu> Ampelbein: thank you for your help... i am heading home from work... maybe see you later
[01:51] <cavedon> hi, what is the correct procedure to request a package removal from universe?
[01:52] <cavedon> (package superseeded by another one: i.e. changed name)
[01:52] <cavedon> fire a bug a subscribe ubuntu-archive?
[01:52] <cavedon> ...and subscribe...
[01:55] <DktrKranz> cavedon, file a bug with every detail needed to analize the request and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors
[01:55] <cavedon> DktrKranz: tnx!
[01:56] <DktrKranz> :)
[03:18] <TurtlePie> how do I decrypt my key to sign the CoC
[03:18] <TurtlePie> i am stuck :(
[05:30] <pwnguin> when was the "leadership code of conduct" written?
[05:31] <jdong> what is the leadership code of conduct.
[05:31] <jdong> wow that question looks bad for me to be asking :-/
[05:31] <pwnguin> hah
[05:31] <pwnguin> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct
[05:34] <jdong> cool, never noticed that
[05:34] <pwnguin> me either!
[05:34] <pwnguin> i was just looking up attribution on the normal CoC for some silly reason, and noticed this new thing
[05:35] <pwnguin> apparently archive.org found it may 2007
[05:36] <jdong> shame on me then :)
[05:36] <pwnguin> im not sure it was ever met with any fanfare
[05:37] <ScottK> I'm fairly certain I don't do so well on 'show more civility'.
[08:33] <mdke> pwnguin: 10 November 2006 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LeadershipCodeofConduct?action=info
[13:09] <geser> doko: do you know why python-distutils.mk from cdbs (karmic) renames dist-packages to site-packages?
[14:12] <calc> looks like we need to do a boost1.37 transition for karmic, 1.35 is requested for removal from Debian
[14:39] <lesshaste> hi.. my X restarted again spontaneously with this log http://pastebin.com/f4d283a92
[14:39] <lesshaste>  I thought i  had installed debug symbols.. what can I do to get a better backtrace for next time?
[14:44] <ScottK> calc: Debian is targetting 1.38 for squeeze.  Maybe go straight to that?
[14:45] <lesshaste> I have installed xserver-xorg-core-dbg  for example so I am mystified
[14:45] <calc> ScottK: ah yea probably a good idea
[14:46] <calc> ScottK: i just noticed the request for removal of 1.35 i didn't realize there was a 1.38 already
[14:47] <lesshaste> anyone got any ideas?
[14:58] <ScottK> calc: Not sure if it's through New yet.
[14:58]  * ScottK hasn't looked
[14:59] <calc> ok
[14:59] <calc> yea boost1.38 has been in debian for about a month
[15:01] <calc> do packages get removed semi-automatically from Ubuntu after being removed from Debian... except for cases where they are 0ubuntuX ?
[15:01] <calc> or how does that happen?
[15:01] <martijn933> lesshaste: you know https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing ?
[15:02] <lesshaste> martijn933: ah maybe I am missing the debug symbols specific to my driver you mean?
[15:04] <lesshaste> martijn933: which xserver-xorg-video-<name> do I need for the fglrx driver?
[15:05] <lesshaste> ah.. it's none of those right?
[15:09] <martijn933> sorry, can't help you any further on this
[15:09] <martijn933> just gave you the link in case you had not seen it
[15:14] <lesshaste> martijn933: ok thanks.. the top tip is to change to the open source driver of course
[15:14] <lesshaste> which I will do as soon as I can
[15:19] <lamont> I wonder how I tell the gimp to come up with the same window size as it had the last time, instead of the apparently new with jaunty "ZOMG YOU MUST WANT ME TO FILL THE SCREEN" belief
[15:40] <Riddell> pitti or asac: bug 369918 MIR is blocking KDE merges, able to take a look?
[15:41] <Riddell> I don't know if it even needs a MIR since as far as I can make out the code is also in cmake anyway
[15:42] <rickyb> Can anyone help me with an Ubuntu 9.04 display related problem - "Display Preferences" does not give me the correct refresh rate values
[15:42] <soren> rickyb: xmlrpc-c also includes a server implemention, doesn't it?
[15:44] <soren> Err...
[15:44] <soren> Riddell: xmlrpc-c also includes a server implemention, doesn't it?
[15:44] <rickyb> good question
[15:44] <soren> rickyb: Sorry, not fo you :)
[15:44] <rickyb> lol
[15:49] <Riddell> soren: I'm not sure on that, I havn't even worked out why cmake needs it
[15:57] <Chipzz> Riddell: it would also fix an other problem which I filed a bug for :)
[15:57] <Chipzz> (unrelated to kde though :P)
[15:58] <Riddell> Chipzz: moving it to main?
[15:58] <Chipzz> no :)
[15:58] <Chipzz> but it would be a side-effect I suppose :)
[15:59] <Chipzz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtorrent/+bug/173850
[15:59] <Chipzz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmlrpc-c/+bug/173848
[15:59] <Chipzz> filed allmost 1.5 years ago *ugh*
[16:41] <kirkland> cjwatson: hi there, i have a couple of ssh implementation questions for you ...
[16:41] <kirkland> cjwatson: thinking about encrypted-home and ssh public key authentication
[16:42] <kirkland> cjwatson: currently, we can't mount the home directory until the user enters their login passphrase through pam
[16:42] <kirkland> cjwatson: since the wrapped-passphrase file is symmetrically encrypted with the login passphrase itself
[16:43] <kirkland> cjwatson: however, i'd like to support something like a wrapped-passphrase.ssh
[16:43] <kirkland> cjwatson: which would instead be wrapped with an ssh private key
[16:44] <kirkland> cjwatson: so a user ssh'ing in via public key authentication, if the homedir is not mounted, would need to have pam_ssh pass pam_ecryptfs the incoming private key
[16:45] <kirkland> cjwatson: pam_ecryptfs would use that key to try and mount $HOME
[16:45] <kirkland> cjwatson: if that works, then kick back to pam_ssh, and let it check authorized_keys
[16:45] <kirkland> cjwatson: if that succeeds, PAM_SUCCESS or whatever
[16:46] <kirkland> cjwatson: if that fails, then we'd need to unmount $HOME first, and then PAM_FAILURE
[16:46] <kirkland> cjwatson: can you offer any thoughts/insight on this idea?
[16:49] <kirkland> slangasek: you might have some insight too...  See the last 10 minutes of cjwatson-directed messages :-)
[17:02] <asac> Riddell: looking
[17:03] <asac> Riddell: you say it was in cmake ... the dir mentioned in MIR isnt in cmake from jaunty
[17:03] <asac> oh sorry
[17:06] <asac> Riddell: do we need all binary packages in main?
[17:24] <dMoberg> How do I make my own gnome-panel applets?
[17:24] <dMoberg> I want the tmeperature from this site: http://www.frryd.se to show in the panel :)
[17:26] <Riddell> asac: no, just the library
[17:26] <Riddell> libxmlrpc-c3-dev and libxmlrpc-c3
[17:39] <asac> Riddell: lib*abyss does server sockets
[17:40] <Riddell> asac: what's that?
[17:40] <Riddell> I don't see abyss mentioned in xmlrpc-c
[17:41] <asac> Riddell: not sure. i would feel more comfortable if we could put the server libs to a separate binary package
[17:41] <asac> Riddell: libxmlrpc-c3
[17:41] <asac> err
[17:41] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/162353/
[17:41] <asac> Riddell: ^^
[17:42] <Riddell> mm, I see /usr/lib/libxmlrpc_abyss.so.3.6.15
[17:42] <asac> yeah
[17:42] <asac> and there is also server*so
[17:42] <asac> and stuff
[17:42] <mnemo> dMoberg: "mkdir code ; cd code ; apt-get source gnome-panel ; cd gnome-panel-2.26.0/applets/fish ; gedit fish.c" but there is probably really nice step by step tutorials if you google for it, plus you can probably do in some nicer language like for example Vala
[17:43] <Riddell> asac: I wonder if it would be easier to juse go bck to using the xmlrpc from within cmake
[17:43] <asac> Riddell: running ldd on those suggests that they could be sorted to a separate lib. not sure what cmake would need from those
[17:43] <asac> Riddell: hmm
[17:43] <asac> Riddell: in general having the code in one place is worthwhile. but i think that such high-level server lib code needs security review
[17:46] <asac> Riddell: does the cmake code still exist?
[17:47] <asac> or was it removed upstream?
[17:48] <Riddell> asac: it's still in cmake
[17:48] <asac> Riddell: so just a drop of build depends and a change of a configure flag ? ... if so, i would think its better to do that
[17:49] <Riddell> asac: I think so, trying that now
[18:08] <Riddell> asac: uploaded without that as a build-dep
[18:08] <asac> Riddell: good
[18:53] <Riddell> asac: hmm, I screwed up
[18:53] <Riddell> asac: it doesn't compile without xmlrpc-c
[18:53] <Riddell> that's what I get for compiling two things at the same time
[18:54] <Riddell> I can separate out the libraries it doesn't use though
[18:54] <Riddell> -lxmlrpc -lxmlrpc_util -lxmlrpc_xmlparse -lxmlrpc_xmltok is what it needs
[18:54] <asac> Riddell: yeah. that would make me feel comfortable ... e.g. moving server, abyss stuff to a separate pkg
[19:49] <rom> hi
[19:49] <rom> will this critical bug fixed soon : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/346691
[19:49] <rom> it makes jaunty final worse than an alpha1 release
[20:07] <slangasek> kirkland: what exactly do you mean by "pass pam_ecryptfs the incoming private key"?  I'm not sure how to map that statement to what ssh actually does...
[20:12] <calc> anyone around that can sync some packages for me... please? :-)
[20:15] <mdz> slangasek: I'm not seeing xserver-xorg-video-intel binaries in -proposed, despite your comment on 359392 (only source)
[20:16] <slangasek> mdz: the comment is the generic template generated by the sru-accept script, it doesn't take into account that all the SRU builds are currently backlogged because of the karmic archive opening :(
[20:16] <slangasek> mdz: if you're in a position to bump the build scores, that would be welcome
[20:16] <infinity> slangasek: What needs abusing?
[20:17] <slangasek> infinity: xserver-xorg-video-intel, linux, compiz in jaunty-proposed could use build scores bumped
[20:17] <infinity> slangasek: On it.
[20:17] <slangasek> cheers
[20:17] <mdz> I'll leave it to infinity
[20:19] <mdz> slangasek: will that wait for a publisher cycle, or does it come right out ppa-style?
[20:20] <slangasek> mdz: binary availability? subject to the publisher cycle
[20:20] <infinity> mdz: Of course, you can snag it from the librarian immediately, if you're in a hurry.
[20:22] <mdz> infinity: I will, though I'm hoping to get it to the huddled masses ASAP
[20:22] <bryce> thanks guys
[20:22] <mdz> the subscriber list on that bug is as long as my arm
[20:22] <infinity> mdz: They will, sadly, be huddling for another hour and a half or so. :/
[20:23] <infinity> (Oh how I miss 30 minute cron.dailies...)
[20:23] <mdz> infinity: does launchpad's 'estimated build time' mean much of anything at all?
[20:23] <mdz> 'estimated build start' I mean
[20:23] <infinity> mdz: It's based on queue order and stuff that it feels you're stuck behind.
[20:24] <infinity> mdz: Which arch/package has you unhappy?
[20:24] <mdz> infinity: they're both building now
[20:24] <infinity> mdz: I may have accidentally queued a "linux" before the video driver on one arch...
[20:24] <mdz> they just said "estimated build start: 1 minute" for about 10 minutes
[20:24] <mdz> oh, my mistake, i386 is building but not amd64 (the one I need)
[20:25] <mdz> it says "estimated build start: 0 seconds ago"
[20:25] <mdz> ah, now it's started
[20:25] <infinity> mdz: Oh, yeah.  The code that estimates that has no clue whatsoever about the fact that buildd-manager takes its sweet time scanning the buildds. :/
[20:26] <infinity> mdz: Things have improved drastically since the old slave-scanner, but "drastic improvement" over "30 minutes to iterate over all the buildds when they're not all idle" isn't saying much.
[20:29] <infinity> mdz: Should be built and uploaded now, FWIW.
[20:30] <mdz> slangasek: binaries awaiting acceptance
[20:30] <slangasek> mdz: ok - that should be entirely automatic, just needs a publisher cycle
[20:31] <infinity> Hahaha.  I get an OOPS trying to load that bug.  How many "me toos" does it have?
[20:31] <infinity> Oh, there we go.
[20:32] <mdz> infinity: there's no link to the librarian entry at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.6.3-0ubuntu9.1/+build/982845
[20:32] <mdz> maybe that doesn't work for -proposed?
[20:32] <infinity> It claims they want to be accepted.  That's... Odd.
[20:33] <slangasek> hmm, indeed
[20:33] <slangasek> looks like a UI bug, though
[20:33] <infinity> They're definitely not in the queue though.
[20:33] <infinity> UI bug indeed.
[20:33] <infinity> Annoying.
[20:33] <mdz> could one of you file it?  I'm not sure I can describe the problem fully
[20:34] <LaserJock> man, Jaunty's only been out like a week and there's 68 .debs in -proposed
[20:34] <slangasek> mdz: yep
[20:35] <mdz> thanks
[20:35] <mdz> LaserJock: I count *1*68
[20:36] <LaserJock> well, I meant I had 68 updates
[20:36] <LaserJock> should have been clearer
[20:36] <LaserJock> but still, that's quite a lot of fixing in a week
[20:41] <slangasek> mdz: bug #370529
[20:42] <mdz> slangasek: thanks.  I'm pretty sure I've run into this before without knowing what was going on.
[20:43] <infinity> slangasek: Yeah, it's definitely related to the bug fix you noted.
[20:43] <infinity> slangasek: "RF 7590. Ensures that builds have a package upload in the 'DONE' state before providing links to the binary package publishing record"
[20:43] <slangasek> ah, doh
[20:43] <infinity> slangasek: And the builds aren't "DONE" until the publisher queues them for on-disk publication.
[20:43] <slangasek> indeed
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