[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70503 in ttf-bitstream-vera (main) "Bitstream Vera Sans does not print  correctly with Canon driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70503
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70504 in compiz (universe) "Compiz garbles screen, only partially accelerated, takes down machine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70504
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70505 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crash, both 6.06 and 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70505
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70506 in jokosher (universe) "Crashes when selecting audio" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70506
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70507 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Xubuntu installer does not detect 3com 3c509 ISA ethernet card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70507
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70508 in w3m (main) "[edgy]  w3m no longer displays inline jpegs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70508
[12:26] <secretlondon> we probably want to look out for dupes of #70278 - it looks like a recent (Friday) security patch has broken digicam
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69220 in openoffice.org (main) "edgy -oo crash when try to access format-page-page" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69220
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70509 in bluez-utils (main) "bluetooth starts before dbus but should afterwards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70509
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70510 in nautilus (main) "High CPU usage when nautilus is "closed"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70510
[12:38] <secretlondon> pepsiman: like bug 70278?
[12:38] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70278 in imlib2 "Changes to imlib2 in recent security update causes digikam breakage" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70278
[12:43] <secretlondon> keescook: you should look at bug 70278 as I think you made the patch on Fri which has caused this problem (according to the reports we are getting in)
[12:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70278 in imlib2 "Changes to imlib2 in recent security update causes digikam breakage" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70278
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70512 in Ubuntu "List of available application is out of date..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70512
[01:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70513 in rhythmbox (main) "Error when editing ID3 tags" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70513
[01:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70514 in gamin (main) "USB Cable modem disconnects randomly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70514
[01:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70515 in control-center (main) "gnome-sound-properties freezes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70515
[01:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70516 in firefox-themes-ubuntu (main) "Address Bar lock icon vanishes on mouse over" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70516
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70517 in openoffice.org (main) "hyphenation not installed by default on ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70517
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70520 in nautilus (main) ""Open with" behaviour by file type does not work as expected with zip archives renamed, such as rosegarden or xournal files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70520
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70521 in xbindkeys-config (universe) "crash when 'get key' button is clicked and .xbindkeysrc does not exist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70521
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70522 in armagetron (universe) "The game crash when I try to start a LAN game" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70522
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68895 in openoffice.org (main) "Synergy crashes OpenOffice" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68895
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70523 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "ACX111/ACX100 based WLAN Card (DWL-G650+) wont connect to AP with wep key in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70523
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70525 in gsynaptics (universe) "gsynaptics-init won't load settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70525
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70529 in ktorrent (main) "Two patches from upstream SVN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70529
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70530 in bluefish (universe) "Bluefish crashes when trying to save a file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70530
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70531 in Ubuntu "hibernate button stops working after hibernation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70531
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69499 in eclipse (universe) "Startup options cause eclipse to crash when "subclipse" is used" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69499
[03:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70532 in spca5xx (universe) "Newer Logitech Quickcams not properly detected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70532
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70533 in evolution-exchange (main) "crash after login to gdm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70533
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70534 in grip (universe) "Unmet dependency on vorbis-tools" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70534
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70535 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus copy to USB hard drive crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70535
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70536 in gitweb (universe) "gitweb doesn't handle utf8 in /etc/passwd names" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70536
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70537 in powernowd (main) "System Randomly Locks X " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70537
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70538 in firefox (main) "I tried to insert a link in my online Blog editor on twoday.net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70538
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70539 in xorg-driver-synaptics (main) "Erratic touch pad cursor movement" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70539
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70540 in Ubuntu "Failure to refresh window contents in Totem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70540
[06:59] <cge> I'm thinking that I should close /join #ubuntu-devel
[06:59] <cge> oops
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70541 in firefox (main) "crash after 'Bookmark this Page' tab clicked" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70541
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70542 in ubiquity (main) "kubuntu installer crashed on powerbook g4 PPC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70542
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70543 in Ubuntu "Hibernate uSplash Problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70543
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70544 in banshee (universe) "Ipod properties crashes Banshee" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70544
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70545 in Ubuntu "character in MS comic sans cut to narow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70545
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70546 in xorg-server (main) "X Resolution switch keys no longer work in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70546
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70547 in Ubuntu "the kubuntu 6.10 installer won't use existing ext3 partitions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70547
[09:05] <FliesLikeALap> I just found an upstream bug in debian's rsync package that also exists in ubuntu.  I reported the bug to debian, but should I report it in ubuntu too?
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70548 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Core 2 Duo CPU halts on boot with stock edgy generic kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70548
[09:06] <crimsun> sure. Please link Debian's.
[09:07] <FliesLikeALap> I will once it is posted, it is in the submit queue at the moment
[09:07] <FliesLikeALap> thanks crimsun
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70550 in kdegraphics (main) "Flipping the image and subsequent print cause bad printout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70550
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70551 in Ubuntu "Cannot boot to RAID1 /boot after successful Edgy install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70551
[09:50] <cge> Who on earth uses a raid1 /boot? Is that even possible?
[09:53] <sfllaw> pygi: Pong.
[09:53] <pygi> sfllaw: yay, got time? :)
[09:53] <Jozo-> cge: I have /boot in / (software raid1) many debian/ubuntu machines.
[09:53] <pygi> sfllaw: and sorry for bothering too much :)
[09:53] <sfllaw> pygi: Yes.
[09:53] <pygi> sfllaw: oki, you know what I need then
[09:53] <cge> Jozo-: I didn't know grub could handle that.
[09:54] <sfllaw> pygi: Did you have some bugs I could look at.
[09:55] <sfllaw> pygi: Also, have you read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToApproachBugs page?
[09:55] <pygi> sfllaw: I have, yes
[09:55] <pygi> sfllaw: here's one bug :P
[09:55] <pygi> https://launchpad.net/products/bonfire/+bug/50573
[09:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 50573 in bonfire "Drag and drop doesn't work" [Low,Fix committed]
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70552 in tkcvs (universe) "tkcvs does not accept cvs status info containing date with tz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70552
[10:00] <sfllaw> Hmm.  It would be good to have more experience triaging Ubuntu bugs.  Have you joined BugSquad yet?
[10:00] <sfllaw> That may be a good first step.
[10:00] <sfllaw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[10:00] <sfllaw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[10:03] <cbx33> guys, how come apt-get remove nvidia-glx wants to remove my entire xorg set of pacakges along with ubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <pygi> sfllaw: I have more bugs triaged, not just that one :) But yes, I've applied for BugSquad as well
[10:03] <cge> sfllaw: What exactly does joining bugsquad do?
[10:04] <sfllaw> cge: Joining the BugSquad is about getting involved with resolving bugs in some way.
[10:04] <cge> sfllaw: Yes, but I can do that without joining bugsquad.
[10:04] <cge> As I am doing right now.
[10:04] <sfllaw> cge: Are you talking about the technical mechanism?
[10:04] <sfllaw> Or the social one?
[10:04] <cge> sfllaw: The technical
[10:04] <pygi> sfllaw: I'm interested in having the power to change importance, etc.
[10:04] <pygi> because I'd really like to have 0 open bugs about anything burning related for feisty
[10:05] <sfllaw> pygi: Oh good.
[10:05] <sfllaw> pygi: Did you read the page on the meanings of Importance.  They are slightly non-obvious.
[10:06] <pygi> sfllaw: ofcourse, I've known that for ages :P
[10:06] <sfllaw> cge: There is no technical advantage.  Nor disadvantage.  Joining BugSquad is really more of belonging to a team.
[10:06] <sfllaw> pygi: We keep on changing them though.  To keep you on your toes.  ;)
[10:06] <pygi> sfllaw: o joy :)
[10:06] <pygi> But critical will never mean trivial I hope :P
[10:07] <sfllaw> True.
[10:07] <cge> sfllaw: I would actually be interested in joining. I used to triage a bunch of bugs on bugs.gnome.org around 6 years ago (I was in the competition for most bugs closed in one week). But I'm more interested now in triaging a bug and then trying to work out the cause enough so that a developer or myself can write a patch to fix it.
[10:07] <sfllaw> cge: That's exactly what we need!
[10:07] <sfllaw> pygi: Don't forget to assign yourself to a bug when you're asking for information.
[10:07] <sfllaw> And then give it away again.
[10:07] <sfllaw> When you're done.
[10:08] <cbx33> can someone else confirm that apt-get remove nvidia-glx is asking to remove ubuntu-desktop and all the xorg pacakges?
[10:08] <pygi> sfllaw: I know that, I'm not here for 5 seconds ^_^
[10:08] <sfllaw> pygi: OK, I just didn't see any assigned bugs.
[10:08] <cge> sfllaw: Oh, we are supposed to do that, rather than just subscribe?
[10:08] <pygi> sfllaw: ubuntu-burning team :)
[10:08] <sfllaw> cge: Yes, it's sort of new.
[10:08] <pygi> sfllaw: and I fix all bugs I assign to myself ;)
[10:09] <sfllaw> pygi: Ah, so you're just fast at triaging.  :)
[10:09] <sfllaw> pygi: OK, I think we can welcome you onboard.
[10:09] <sfllaw> pygi: Are you also going to apply for upload privileges?
[10:09] <pygi> sfllaw: I could have done that ages ago, problem is I must get my keys signed first
[10:09] <sfllaw> Ah.
[10:10] <cbx33> hehe
[10:10] <pygi> sfllaw: the MTV was good chance, but exams got in the way :(
[10:10] <pygi> sfllaw: was even sponsored :(
[10:10] <sfllaw> Oh man.
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70553 in openoffice.org (main) "gnome vfs integration bug?!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70553
[10:10] <cge> sfllaw: What is the process for joining?
[10:10] <sfllaw> cge: BugSquad?
[10:11] <cge> sfllaw: yes
[10:11] <sfllaw> cge: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[10:11] <sfllaw> cge: Ubuntu QA merely requires that you prove you're not going to make more work for the rest of us.  :)
[10:11] <cbx33> heh
[10:12] <sfllaw> It is time to take advantage of this hotel thing and take a bath.
[10:12] <cge> sfllaw: How do I go about showing that? :)
[10:12] <sfllaw> cge: Typically I take a look at some bugs you're in the process of triaging.
[10:12] <sfllaw> If you are literate, nice, and reasonable, then that's good enough.
[10:13] <sfllaw> Also, I ask to make sure people have read some Wiki pages.  They all say they do, but people also say they plug in their computers.
[10:13] <sfllaw> :)
[10:13] <cbx33> sfllaw: man don't I know that's the truth
[10:13] <cge> sfllaw: The wiki pages are rather terse compared to the pages for GNOME.
[10:13] <sfllaw> cge: It's true.
[10:14] <sfllaw> cge: We sort of want two types of documentation, perhaps?
[10:14] <sfllaw> One should be shorter but friendlier about how to get started.
[10:14] <cge> sfllaw: I mean, the pages for GNOME bugsquad.
[10:14] <pygi> sfllaw: thanks once again, I'm happy to work with you :)
[10:14] <sfllaw> pygi: Cool.
[10:15] <crimsun> we all love sfllaw :)
[10:15] <cbx33> hey crimsun
[10:15] <pygi> crimsun: hehe :)
[10:15] <cge> Should bug #63862 be rejected as a defaults change request?
[10:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63862 in xorg "wacom entries appear even when not having a tablet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63862
[10:16] <cbx33> heh that bug stings photoshop under wine ;)
[10:16] <cge> It sounds like the problem is actually an intentional decision on the part of the Xorg maintainers.
[10:18] <cge> But I'm not sure how concerned we are about closing things as Rejected like that. On b.g.o we used to close them as rejected and tell others to just reopen it if our reasoning was wrong.
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70554 in evolution (main) "Edgy: "Pipe to program" in Message Filters displays File Open dialog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70554
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70555 in gftp (main) "Crash when downloading folders of files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70555
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70556 in coreutils (main) ""core dumped" when copying a huge file to an udf device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70556
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70557 in ttf-indic-fonts (main) "bug in java apps" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70557
[11:39] <cge> For bugs which have been fixed upstream and are now fixed in Edgy due to new upstream versions, do I mark them as rejected, or fix released?
[11:39] <crimsun> the latter.
[11:39] <cge> thanks
[11:47] <cge> Hmm... bug 63172 has been confirmed, but it should be rejected, should it not?
[11:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63172 in vim "Better vimrc default" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63172
[11:50] <palski> cge: why it should be rejected?
[11:50] <crimsun> it's a valid wishlist bug.
[11:51] <cge> crimsun, palski: Oh. Yet according to the wiki, requests for changes in defaults should be directed to the mailing lists.
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70558 in evolution (main) "Evolution calculates wrong time from email header" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70558
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70559 in debianutils (main) "which -a does not give aliases (Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70559
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70560 in amule (universe) "amule crashes when closing search tabs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70560
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70561 in xubuntu-meta (main) "Xubuntu Desktop CD needs more than 128 MB RAM to boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70561
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70562 in Ubuntu "[Edgy]  Xubuntu Boot splash is barely visible and shifted up by third of screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70562
[12:47] <cge> If something is fixed in Feisty, I can close it, right?
[12:47] <Hobbsee> cge: yes
[12:48] <Hobbsee> cge: but how do you know it's fixed in feisty?
[12:48] <palski> would fix committed be better because feisty is not released yet?
[12:48] <cge> Hobbsee: It was fixed upstream.
[12:48] <cge> and feisty has the new version
[12:49] <cge> palski: Good question - I'm not sure.
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70563 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70563
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70564 in lyx (universe) "german menues have problems with umlauts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70564
[12:56] <palski> T hink there should be more detailed instruction howo to handle bugs, or is there? At least I havent found one
[12:57] <palski> *I think
[12:57] <Hobbsee> cge: cool.  fix released, then
[12:57] <Hobbsee> palski: fix committed is when there's a patch in svn, or something like that
[12:58] <palski> Hobbsee: ok, thanks for clarifying that
[12:58] <Hobbsee> or when somethings' waiting to build
[12:59] <Hobbsee> anyway, the links in the topic should help
[01:02] <cge> Hobbsee: It is finding the right link that is hard. The information is a bit spread out.
[01:03] <cge> By the way, I believe bug #62980 is the intended behaviour of vi, is it not? When I asked about this on -devel a few people told me that is was.
[01:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62980 in vim "Arrow keys are incorrectly mapped in vim" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62980
[01:03] <Hobbsee> cge: indeed.    and yes, it is
[01:04] <Hobbsee> they need to install vim if they want the full vi
[01:04] <Hobbsee> (which they're not distributing on cd anymore)
[01:04] <cge> Hobbsee: No, that isn't the problem there. It is compatible vs. nocompatible.
[01:04] <cge> Hobbsee: On the cd, vim starts compatible, and vi starts nocompatible.
[01:05] <Hobbsee> cge: ahh, was that it
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69478 in grub (main) "Grub software raid wrong install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69478
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70566 in ubiquity (main) "When spanish session finish (reboot or shutdown) an english message appeared" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70566
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70567 in glibc (main) "Post-installation grammar needs translating properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70567
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70568 in ubiquity (main) "Graphical installer (gnome session) sounds have a high volume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70568
[01:06] <cge> Hobbsee: So actually the bug is that when the full version of vim is installed, nocompatible is set when running vi.
[01:06] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:07] <cge> Hobbsee: So now I could file the bug report "Arrow keys work when running vi: When in insert mode in vi, using the arrow keys moves the cursor, instead of inserting garbled text."
[01:07] <cge> :)
[01:10] <Hobbsee> cge: indeed
[01:10] <Hobbsee> which there's probably arleady one of :P
[01:11] <cge> Hobbsee: Actually, there isn't yet.
[01:11] <Hobbsee> surprising
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69426 in Ubuntu "after hibernate wireless doesn't work" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69426
[01:19] <Hobbsee> way cool.  i've discovered the most on-crack suggestion all day.
[01:19] <Hobbsee> cge: :P
[01:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68960 in vim (main) "Vim locks up while editing a specific file (file attached)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68960
[01:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70569 in vim (main) "Vim variants other than vim-tiny source /etc/vim/vimrc instead of /etc/vim/vimrc.tiny when invoked as vi (ie, Arrow keys not broken when running vi)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70569
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70570 in anjuta (universe) "Anjuta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70570
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70571 in Ubuntu "OOo fails to open without removing default language packs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70571
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70572 in ubiquity (main) "Error creating filesystem at Install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70572
[01:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70573 in control-center (main) "gnome-settings-daemon asks an incomprehensible question" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70573
[01:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70574 in thunar (main) "property for trash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70574
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70576 in evince (main) "Duplex printing permanently disabled in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70576
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70577 in rezound (universe) "rezound crashes in Edgy when trying to record sound" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70577
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70575 in notification-daemon (main) "notification-daemon crashed after resume from suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70575
[02:09] <cge> When I mark a bug as fix released, should I clear the assignment?
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70578 in constraint (universe) "dpkg: error processing python-constraint (--configure):" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70578
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70579 in Ubuntu "Random crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70579
[02:15] <cge> If there is an old bug, and I can't reproduce it in the latest version, should I mark it as needinfo (asking the reporter to try again), fix released, or rejected?
[02:16] <DarkMageZ> was there enough info in the first place to replicate on the old ubuntu? if so then just ask for a retest. if not then needinfo and ask again. i think :)
[02:17] <Hobbsee> cge: probably fix released.  they can always reopen it if they stil have teh problem
[02:17] <Hobbsee> how old?
[02:17] <cge> May
[02:18] <cge> In vim in a Dapper installation, during the time when vim was having some upgrade problems.
[02:18] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[02:18] <Hobbsee> ahh okay.  probably mark it fix released
[02:19] <cge> It would be a rather apparent bug, so I would expect another report if it was still happening. I'll close it as fix released and tell the reporter to reopen if they still have the problem.
[02:19] <Hobbsee> sounds good
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70580 in update-manager (main) "Repositories dialog crashes (no distribution tamplate)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70580
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70581 in Ubuntu "Consoles locked out and screen show complete garbage." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70581
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70582 in ktorrent (main) "Max ratio doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70582
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69304 in hibernate (universe) "Hibernate distroy swap" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69304
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70583 in Ubuntu "kernel panic on an apt-get update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70583
[02:55] <cge> What should I do with bugs like script addition requests (bug 35084 and bug 35084) and configuration change requests (bug 6500 and bug 63172 and bug 58004)?
[02:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 35084 in vim "Syntax highlighting vor cmake is missing" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/35084
[02:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 6500 in vim "Syntax Highlighting Should be On by Default in vim-perl" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6500
[02:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63172 in vim "Better vimrc default" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63172
[02:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58004 in vim "vim should open files at the previous cursor position" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58004
[02:57] <Hobbsee> cge: well, they're marked as wishlists.  in the last case at least, the maintainer has already said no.  well, a dev anyway
[02:58] <Hobbsee> cge: i'd suspect the answer is "leave them, at least for the moment"
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70584 in nautilus (main) "Changing permissions or ownership of files in the desktop require restart of nautilus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70584
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70585 in control-center (main) "App doesn't recognise "~/" shortcut for /home/user/" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70585
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70587 in gksu (main) "Error during upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70587
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70588 in openoffice.org (main) "Crash in Openoffice presentation when deleting topic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70588
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70586 in blender (universe) "Sequencer crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70586
[03:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70589 in ivman (universe) "daemon mounts all mountable media regardless of user interaction" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70589
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70590 in samba (main) "Shares do not get unshared but user is unaware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70590
[03:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70593 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus will not open ftp sites with the address starting "www."" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70593
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70592 in apport (main) "Update manager reported errors (and failed to upgrade firefox)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70592
[03:52] <bddebian> Boo
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70594 in kdepim (main) "clicking on icon in tray (korgac) does not open korganizer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70594
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70595 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crash restart cycle with bad recent documents" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70595
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70596 in libapt-front (main) "apt-index-watcher's cpu usage is very annoying" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70596
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70597 in Ubuntu "Installer won't install if there are 2047 MiB of free space" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70597
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70598 in zsnes (multiverse) "Zsnes looks at /dev/js0 instead of /dev/input/js0 for joystick" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70598
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70600 in zsnes (multiverse) "Zsnes needs a menu entry / .desktop file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70600
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70599 in Ubuntu "Laptop overheating in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70599
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70601 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "reset ide controller on resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70601
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70602 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Dual-core Thinkpad fails to suspend with cpu governor active" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70602
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70603 in Ubuntu "3ware raid not working on amd64 with more than 3G of ram" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70603
[05:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70604 in mono (main) "I was browsing and got totally disconnected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70604
[05:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70605 in gimp (main) "Gimp not updating graphic on screen after rotate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70605
[05:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70606 in tetex-src (universe) "tetex has been abandoned upstream since May 2006" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70606
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70608 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70608
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70610 in tar (main) "Unable to uncompress .Z files without a "compress" binary" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70610
[05:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70609 in xinit (main) "duplicate startup files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70609
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70611 in banshee (universe) "After using for a few hours, Banshee 0.11.1 consumes ~70% CPU" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70611
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70612 in firefox (main) "mozillas fail to use certificates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70612
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70616 in gedit (main) "gedit can't save a file on a sshfs mount" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70616
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69457 in obby (universe) "Avahi warning when launching gobby" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69457
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70618 in gnome-session (main) "Unable to login after session crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70618
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70620 in Ubuntu "alacarte" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70620
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70621 in gnome-keyring (main) "system hang and then crash report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70621
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70622 in scim-pinyin (main) "no smart pinyin method in the input method list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70622
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69528 in gnome-bluetooth (main) "Cannot connect with bluetooth" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69528
[07:06] <jStefan> how could I help speed up processing of bug 59138 (it's two months old now)
[07:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59138 in amule "amule crashes when I close a tab" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59138
[07:13] <pygi> jStefan: if it's not aMule bug ...
[07:14] <jStefan> pygi, it's still an open bug that crashes amule :(
[07:14] <pygi> jStefan: true ...
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70624 in beagle (main) "Beagle-crawl-system just not working (and breaking yelp!)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70624
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70626 in util-linux (main) "swap space disappears after forced disk check." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70626
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70625 in kid (universe) "Installation throws syntax errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70625
[07:44] <palski> jStefan: you could fix it?
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69241 in apport (main) "report a bug broken (edgy)" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69241
[07:50] <palski> hmm I could not find it from upstream (wxwidgets) bug tracking system, it should be forwarded
[07:52] <palski> jStefan: do you want to do it? I could do it too if you dont want to...
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70627 in tz-brasil (universe) "tz-brasil cronspams me when I travel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70627
[08:01] <jStefan> palski, i want to fix it, but i dont know how :(
[08:02] <jStefan> palski, at least I want to find a more specific diagnostic
[08:05] <palski> ok
[08:09] <jStefan> palski, about the fwding, go ahead i dont mind
[08:18] <palski> jStefan: ok, done that, good luck with bughunting :)
[08:18] <jStefan> :S
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70629 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox crashs when importing music" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70629
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69058 in tz-brasil (universe) "Does not accept Brazil/East as a valid timezone" [Undecided,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69058
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70630 in firefox (main) "Firefox wrong icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70630
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70631 in ffmpeg (universe) "crash when ffmeg transform an avi file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70631
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70632 in ubiquity (main) "Installer fails if date is too far into the past" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70632
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70633 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash unanticipated " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70633
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70634 in python2.4 (main) "Incorrect output from logging module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70634
[09:33] <gnomefreak> bug 70601
[09:33] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70601 in linux-source-2.6.17 "reset ide controller on resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70601
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70635 in gnucash (universe) "gnucash gives error when started by session manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70635
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70636 in Ubuntu "crash in terminal when sudo command and AT enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70636
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70637 in bug-buddy (main) "BugBuddy should not run if the system is swapping" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70637
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70638 in ubiquity (main) "installer crush with grub" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70638
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70639 in wxwidgets2.6 (universe) "wxPython headers are missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70639
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70640 in ircii-pana (universe) "bitchx does NOT depend on mysql" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70640
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70641 in update-manager (main) "Dist-upgrade failed pkg ubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70641
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70642 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crash (down in flames)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70642
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70643 in evolution (main) "'Request Read Receipt' does not work at all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70643
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70644 in evolution (main) "hangs " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70644
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70645 in firefox (main) "firefox 2.0 crashes with flash nonfree package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70645
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70646 in mc (universe) "UBUNTU 6.10 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70646
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70647 in Ubuntu "Upgrade to 6.10 dies on ivman" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70647
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70648 in ubuntu-artwork (main) "GIMP color chooser broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70648
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70649 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird crashes after finishing the creation of an email account" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70649
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70650 in network-manager (main) "gtk-icon-cache problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70650
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70651 in mono (main) "Mono is likely patent encumbered" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70651
[10:51] <crimsun> sigh.
[10:52] <crimsun> that's a fairly useless bug.
[10:53] <pygi> crimsun: :P
[10:53] <pygi> crimsun: bug #70650 can be fixed trivially tho
[10:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70650 in network-manager "gtk-icon-cache problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70650
[10:54] <giskard> pygi: why cdbs doesn't add it automagically?
[10:54] <pygi> giskard: dunno, haven't seen package
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70652 in apport (main) "Incorrect capitalization in window titles" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70652
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70653 in gobby (universe) "Crash when reconnecting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70653
[10:58] <crimsun> hmm
[10:58] <crimsun> binary-install/network-manager-gnome::
[10:58] <crimsun>         dh_iconcache
[10:58] <crimsun> is in debian/rules, however
[10:58] <giskard> yes
[10:58] <pygi> crimsun: weird ... not executed by any chance?
[10:59] <crimsun> and I can't reproduce that bug (70650) here
[10:59] <crimsun> as much as I dislike n-m-g, it seems to work
[11:00] <crimsun> from a fresh boot of 6.10 desktop cd
[11:00] <dsas> hmm, any objections to me rejecting bug 70651 ?
[11:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70651 in mono "Mono is likely patent encumbered" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70651
[11:01] <pygi> crimsun: I could reproduce it really
[11:01] <dsas> Don't want to be seen as making some sort of "political" statement on behalf of ubuntu
[11:01] <crimsun> dsas: I'd mark it More Info and lower the Importance to Low
[11:02] <crimsun> (that's the nice way of saying "uh, roit")
[11:02] <pygi> dsas: assign yourself when asking for more info :)
[11:03] <dsas> I thought I saw some thread on ubuntu-bugs saying *not* to assign to yourself when asking for more info?
[11:03] <pygi> oh?!
[11:03] <pygi> ok, don't then
[11:04] <dsas> I could be worng.
[11:04] <dsas> wrong even
[11:09] <dsas> hmm, yeah there was an email at the end of October - carthik and john vivrito both reccomended against it.
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68883 in dash (main) "Autocompletion implementation is incomplete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68883
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70654 in irda-utils (main) "Include new release 0.9.18/Instalation with non-enabled IrDA chip" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70654
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70655 in texmacs (universe) "script assumes that /bin/sh is bash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70655
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70656 in firefox (main) "Opened a tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70656


[01:47] <koell> lol
[05:45] <AndChat|197561> Hello there
[05:45] <Noskcaj> hey AndChat|197561
[05:46] <AndChat|197561> Ve got some problems installing lubuntu 13.10 on my worstation in my college
[05:46] <AndChat|197561> Have windows xp and free space for lubuntu on my dev sda
[05:46] <Noskcaj> ok
[05:47] <AndChat|197561> But i can't get access to my dev sda through live
[05:48] <AndChat|197561> It shows only dev sdb (my flash usb) and just dev sda
[05:48] <Noskcaj> strange
[05:48] <AndChat|197561> But there are not any partition
[05:48] <AndChat|197561> But lsblk dev sda shows everything normal
[05:48] <Noskcaj> Is the hard drive partitioned?
[05:48] <AndChat|197561> Yeap
[05:49] <Noskcaj> If there's only one, it will just be called sda
[05:50] <AndChat|197561> Nope, i also have windows xp on it
[05:50] <Noskcaj> ok. Do you want to install them side-by-side or just lubuntu?
[05:50] <AndChat|197561> But it doesn't shows my partitions
[05:50] <AndChat|197561> Side by side
[05:51] <Noskcaj> That is weird.
[05:52] <Noskcaj> You could try 14.04's release candidate
[05:53] <Noskcaj> it will come out in two days, so it's pretty much stable
[05:53] <Noskcaj> someone in #ubuntu might also be able to help you
[05:54] <JohnDoe_71Rus> some one can test hostapd in RC lubuntu?
[05:55] <JohnDoe_71Rus> one week ago it don't work. use hostapd from 13.10
[06:00] <Noskcaj> JohnDoe_71Rus, One moment
[06:09] <AndChat|197561> Noskcaj, look http://imgur.com/s6iozpc
[06:10] <Noskcaj> AndChat|197561, That is strange
[06:10] <Noskcaj> Like i said above, it might be fixed in 14.04
[06:11] <Noskcaj> Actually, is it mounted yet?
[06:11] <Noskcaj> and what's the ! for in gparted?
[06:11] <JohnDoe_71Rus> the disk base oк dynamic logical?
[06:12] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://www.disk-partition.com/dynamic-disk/dynmaic-disk-and-dynamic-volume.html
[06:13] <Noskcaj> JohnDoe_71Rus, No idea what's wrong with hostapd sorry. But the version in 14.04 is a lot newer
[06:13] <Noskcaj> so it could work
[06:14] <AndChat|197561> Noskcaj, it says that my sda is unallocated
[06:15] <Noskcaj> AndChat|197561, No idea then, sorry.
[06:15] <AndChat|197561> :(
[06:15] <Noskcaj> 14.04 might have it fixed though
[06:15] <Noskcaj> You could try that
[06:17] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Noskcaj: i get this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1289047
[06:31] <AndChat|197561> Noskcaj, i can partition sda with cfdisk
[06:31] <AndChat|197561> Noskcaj, is there any way to install lubuntu usind terminal?
[06:31] <AndChat|197561> Like in archlinux
[06:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> AndChat|197561: alternative cd
[06:33] <Noskcaj> yep
[06:34] <AndChat|197561> What?
[06:35] <Noskcaj> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/20140414/trusty-alternate-amd64.iso
[06:35] <Noskcaj> A cli installer
[11:48] <Roxxor> Hello, I upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04. The network-manager is not showing anymore. I have the notification area activated in the panel, and nm-applet in terminal does not lead to anything :/ Can somebody help me? Thank you :)
[11:49] <Roxxor> Also for a newly created user, therefore with standard setting, the network-manager does not appear
[12:30] <raiden> hello
[17:03] <K350> I've lubuntu 13.04. There are never any updates when I do apt-get upgrade anymore. Why is that and what can I do about it?
[17:04] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: Because 13.04 is dead.
[17:04] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: Get Lubuntu 13.10
[17:06] <K350> SonikkuAmerica: oh, uff..then I've to make a new install...and configure it the way I want it...*rolls eyes*...that'll take for ever..oh well...what to do...
[17:07] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: You don't have to do that!!
[17:07] <SonikkuAmerica> There are ways to do release upgrades without screwing around with your configuration!
[17:08] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: You can use [ do-release-upgrade ] from the terminal, or you can run the Software Updater and it will tell you a new release is available.
[17:09] <SonikkuAmerica> !upgrade
[17:12] <K350> SonikkuAmerica: I tried that a couple of years ago. But then it screwwed up my system. Well that was then..maybe it works better now?
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: I'd say it's much more solid now, but you can upgrade via a 13.10 !Live image as well. Just select "Upgrade Ubuntu 13.04 to Ubuntu 13.10" at the third screen.
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: (Unless you have UEFI)
[17:14] <K350> Should I wait fo r14.04 instead?
[17:14] <K350> And upgrade from 13.04 direct to 14.04?
[17:14] <SonikkuAmerica> That isn't possible. However, if you get 13.10 now, you can upgrade to 14.04 at release time (this Thursday) without needing another !Live image.
[17:15] <K350> so if I run the upgrade from the command line from 13.04 to 13.10 then I've to do it again from 13.10 to 14.04..right?
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes. Run it now, and in a few days after 14.04 comes out, run it again - or any time between Thursday and July.
[17:18] <K350> Okay. is it safe to keep some configuration files in /etc..I mean not repalcing them?
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: If you use do-release-upgrade or the Software Updater, you'll be given the choice to keep or replace conflicting configuration files.
[17:21] <K350> SonikkuAmerica: yes, but is it safe to keep them?
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: That is for you to find out, but not for us to know. If you know what config files you want to keep, keep 'em. Otherwise, replace 'em.
[17:23] <K350> SonikkuAmerica: okay, thanks! :-)
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Happy upgrading!
[17:23] <K350> thanks. happy eastern! :-)
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> -n
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> You too!
[21:32] <evanvarvell> .. test..
[21:38] <ianorlin> your client is working now do you need any support
[23:38] <Ahmuck> hi hi
[23:38] <Ahmuck> hi hi
[23:39] <Ahmuck> i am using a spanish system (language) but need spanish and english spell check system wide.  is there a way to set the system up to do spanish and english spellcheck?
[23:40] <holstein> maybe you can just combing both into one custom one, and use it
[23:40] <holstein> combine*
[23:40] <Ahmuck> combine?  you mean combine the spell checkers?
[23:41] <holstein> Ahmuck: whats spell check? just a database of words, correct?
[23:41] <holstein> you can add to that base, if you like
[23:41] <holstein> so, why not just make a new one that contains both the english words from the english one, and spanish from the spanish one?
[23:42] <holstein> call it your own custom one.. id say, the issue could be that, many things may pass as correctly spelled in one langauge, and be an error in another
[23:42] <holstein> i cant imagine why you would need a document going that goes back and forth like that
[23:43] <holstein> i would just do one, then do the other... otherwise, you may have false positives, or just mistakes that pass un-noticed
[23:43] <Ahmuck> i can do that however the system checks for spanish only
[23:43] <Ahmuck> a document that would do that is conversational spanish for education
[23:44] <holstein> still, it shouldnt be both at the same time, correct?
[23:44] <Ahmuck> gnucash allows me to start with LANG & LANGUAGE variables, however, i can't seem to find that option with libreoffice
[23:45] <holstein> Ahmuck: id ask in ubuntu, since lubuntu doesnt ship with it
[23:45] <Ahmuck> holstein: yes, that would be correct.  a nice feature would be an option to highlight and then select the language for language correction
[23:45] <holstein> Ahmuck: or, try a libreoffice specific support
[23:45] <Ahmuck> holstein: the problem i'm having however is not just with libreoffice
[23:45] <Ahmuck> for example, chatzilla, thunderbird, osmo, etc.
[23:45] <holstein> Ahmuck: a large custom database with both is what you are asking for
[23:46] <holstein> i would just make my own, if thats what i wanted
[23:46] <Ahmuck> not really.  i'm asking for an option to start a desired program in a specific language
[23:47] <Ahmuck> whatever it may be
[23:47] <holstein> Ahmuck: i read, system wide spanish and english spell checking
[23:47] <holstein> Ahmuck: ive just seen you ask a few times, otherwise, i wouldnt bother commenting
[23:47] <Ahmuck> yes, it does not stop there, that is the simple explanation
[23:47] <holstein> Ahmuck: you should try main ubuntu since its not lubuntu or lxde specific
[23:47] <Ahmuck> for example, in gnucash the country code makes a difference in the type of accounts offered
[23:47] <Ahmuck> in other programs the country code makes a difference in the help options offered
[23:48] <Ahmuck> so if i want to do this i would have to select preferences, support of languages and change for every program i do which would require a logout, login, etc.
[23:49] <holstein> or, just select the custom one one time, that contains both languages
[23:50] <Ahmuck> getting help in ubuntu is near impossible because of their size (large) and it may be impossible here because of lubuntu's size (small) or unable to code a solution for those who use dual language systems
[23:50] <holstein> or, have 2 users setup.. or custom flags for the applications.. etc
[23:50] <Ahmuck> ya, i've thought of the 2 users setup, but then you have to share files, folders, etc.
[23:52] <Ahmuck> i was hoping someone else had encountered the problem and that perhaps i've missed the solution in the documentation
[23:53] <holstein> sure, and someone ight have in the main ubuntu community
[23:53] <holstein> in here, you are the only spanish speaking person i ever encounter on any regular basis
[23:54] <holstein> occasionally someone will pop in and we give the !es bot link, and they leave.. i dont think *anyone* here is more knowlegable about spanish and english in lubuntu than you
[23:54] <Ahmuck> is there a spanish lubuntu channel?
[23:54] <holstein> occasionally someone will pop in and we give the !es bot link, and they leave.. i dont think *anyone* here is more knowlegable about spanish and english in lubuntu than you
[23:54] <holstein> !es
[23:55] <Ahmuck> the bot link is broke
[23:55] <holstein> but, the main ubuntu channel, thats where you would *maybe* actually encounter a user that is either like you, or looking for exactly the same as you, or has already found it
[23:55] <Ahmuck> need to be #ubuntu-es ?
[23:55] <holstein> Ahmuck: whats the question, friend?
[23:55] <Ahmuck> er, #ubuntu-es ;
[23:56] <holstein> Ahmuck: i just sent you text in that channel
[23:56] <holstein> Ahmuck: what is "broke" about what, specifically?
[23:57] <holstein> Ahmuck: i would also ask in the very large libreoffice community
[23:58] <Ahmuck> ok.  so my lubuntu system is in LANG=es_MX LANGUAGE=es_MX
[23:58] <Ahmuck> i can start gnucash with the variables LANG=en_US and LANGUAGE=en_US
[23:58] <holstein> Ahmuck: what is broken?
[23:58] <holstein> Ahmuck: what about the bot link is broken?
[23:59] <Ahmuck> setting system variables on the fly for certian programs
[23:59] <Ahmuck> oh, ok
[23:59] <Ahmuck> i thought you meant with the language and country was set up and operating
[23:59] <Ahmuck> ok, so the link you gave me i clicked on #ubuntu; and it opened up channel #ubuntu; rather than #ubuntu


[06:15] <Myrtti> morn
[06:47] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:05] <dwatkins> o/ wotcher
[07:33] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[07:37] <brobostigon> is it possible to create a wifi hotspot on my phone, that is undetectable on the mobile network side of the system?
[08:11] <MartijnVdS> I think the only thing they can use to detect it is the user-agent of the browser?
[08:12] <MartijnVdS> which is not allowed in .nl (yay net neutrality rules)
[08:12] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: I put a Vodafone payg sim in a "mifi"-like device (which is basically the same) and it's still working fine
[08:13] <brobostigon> so for example. they cant detect from where the packets have came from, ie not the phone itself, ?
[08:14] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: only by looking inside the packets -- maybe MTU, and certainly HTTP User-Agent
[08:15] <MartijnVdS> also, the amount of data use over time is different for phones vs pcs
[08:15] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: well you work for a telephone company, you should probably know. so if i tether my tablet, it will still show as normal android, that wouldnt make any difference.
[08:15] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: I work for an internet company, the mobile network isn't "ours"
[08:15] <MartijnVdS> All we do is "You've used >4GB; down to 64kbps with you!"
[08:15] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: ah, ok sorry.
[08:16] <brobostigon> ouchie.
[08:17] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: and like I said, Dutch ISPs (including mobile internet) aren't allowed to allow/disallow traffic, or even QoS it without good (i.e. acute congestion) reasons
[08:17] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: interesting, i dont know what the situation is here to be honest.
[08:18] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: with the dirt filter proposals, probably much worse :(
[08:18] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: oh dear :(
[08:19] <MartijnVdS> The only people trying that idea here are from the strict christian party
[08:19] <MartijnVdS> i.e. nuts
[08:19] <MartijnVdS> ("God didn't want us to watch porn" "Don't watch it then" "But it tempts us.")
[08:20] <brobostigon> like the right wing american side of it, who are also very strict christians.
[08:20] <brobostigon> lol.
[08:20] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: look up the Dutch Reformed church
[08:21] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: sounds dodgy from the name already.
[08:22] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_Political_Party
[08:22] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: their website blanks out on Sundays
[08:22] <brobostigon> lol.
[08:23] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt_(Netherlands)
[08:26] <brobostigon> sounds like the one in america, just not as bad, where i am a humanist would probably be lynched.
[08:26] <brobostigon> i as a *
[08:29] <Myrtti> I'm waiting for an English writeup on the decision the High Court of Finland made today about child porn censorship and freedom of speech
[08:37] <Myrtti> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapsiporno.info
[08:40] <dwatkins> so, another failure of a government to implement a ban on things that should be banned whilst allowing people to see things they have every right to see?
[08:42] <Myrtti> something like that
[08:43] <Myrtti> in essence the decision is that blocking is ok, and censorship is ok too, and sucks to be you, shush.
[08:43] <Myrtti> they might go and appeal to the European Human Rights court
[08:44] <brobostigon> like cameron's new impossible to implement pet project.
[08:44] <dwatkins> brobostigon: exactly what I was thinking
[08:45] <brobostigon> dwatkins: it seems either of two possiblities, either he hasnt taken advice and has no clue on the subject, or just has plain no clue.
[08:45] <brobostigon> or he did get advice, and choose to ignore it.
[08:46] <Myrtti> I vote for the latter
[08:46] <brobostigon> agreed.
[08:46] <Myrtti> because WHY WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN
[08:46] <dwatkins> brobostigon: the fact he made people go in and destroy the Guardian's hard drives demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of how computers and networks work.
[08:46] <dwatkins> so perhaps both
[08:47] <dwatkins> Seeing as he's the person in charge, he probably has easy access to people who do understand, but chooses (out of ignorance, perhaps) to ignore them.
[08:47] <brobostigon> Myrtti: as MartijnVdS said earlier, such things get said in the biblebelt in the us, like he said does in the netherlands.
[08:48] <Myrtti> I doubt he as a politician made the direct order to have someone distroy the harddrives
[08:48] <brobostigon> dwatkins: or he is just plain dim?
[08:48] <Myrtti> just waved his hand in exasperation and said "Why can't anyone make them to shut up"
[08:48] <Myrtti> and someone took the initiative
[08:49] <dwatkins> brobostigon: I think all of this demonstrates that, at least in terms of his understanding of technology, you are right
[08:49] <Myrtti> he as a politician is probably well aware of the implications of him ordering someone to do it
[08:49] <Myrtti> so they've got someone else who is not elected to their position to blame if things go totally pearshaped
[08:50] <brobostigon> dwatkins: agreed yes, it reminds me of several jokes recently in private eye that demonstrate it very well.
[08:50] <brobostigon> a civil servant probably, yes.
[08:51] <Myrtti> I've seen this movie so many times played out in the parliaments of different countries, I know Cameron isn't going to get and hasn't gotten any kind of blame for it
[08:52] <popey> Morning
[08:53] <dwatkins> Myrtti: sadly, yes - it just demonstrates that most of the people who make the decisions fail to understand technology
[08:55] <Myrtti> and to be honest, I'm not even sure that in this particular case Cameron is to be blamed in any way - I'm not convinced the politicians in the end had anything to do with it. In the end - atleast in Finland - most of the executive civil servants stay in their jobs no matter who's elected politically
[08:56] <popey> bigcalm: hows the flashing going?
[08:57] <Myrtti> it's either politicians silent agreement on letting civil servants do their job, ignorance on what are their jobs, or in the other end of the spectrum making clear statements on what they're not allowed to due because freedom of speech etc.
[08:57] <Myrtti> and making policies on which law outruns the other
[08:57] <Myrtti> sorry, getting ranty
[08:58] <dwatkins> Myrtti: I assume there are people lobbying to make laws like the one about banning certain websites in the UK, they probably don't understand the technology is prone to failure
[08:59] <Myrtti> yeah, Pirate Bay is blocked by some ISP's in both Finland and UK, and bypassing it is so simple even a 5yo can do it
[08:59] <popey> hasstephenelopbeenfiredyet.com
[09:14]  * popey tickles bigcalm
[09:20] <bigcalm> Good morning peep :)
[09:26] <popey> :D
[09:27] <bigcalm> +s
[09:27] <bigcalm> Terribly lax of me
[09:27] <bigcalm> My attention is elsewhere right now
[09:31] <popey> outrage
[09:31] <bigcalm> :P
[09:39] <bigcalm> phablet-flash cdimage-touch -b
[09:39]  * bigcalm goes for breakfast
[09:46] <popey> bigcalm: be brave, get the latest image with "phablet-flash cdimage-touch -b --pending" :D
[09:51] <bigcalm> Too late
[09:52] <popey> heh
[09:52] <popey> the --pending image hasn't been fully tested, so best not to really
[09:54] <bigcalm> This is going to take a lot of getting used to
[09:54] <bigcalm> Keyboard has appeared and I'm not sure how to get rid of it
[09:55] <bigcalm> Ah, swipe down
 Wow, the phone lags horribly with 2 apps running
 Can I close apps?
[10:04] <bigcalm> None of the UI is intuitive :(
[10:05]  * dwatkins felt this way about Unity :-/
[10:05] <bigcalm> But then, neither is iOS. To me at least
[10:05] <dwatkins> does Ubuntu phone have a home button?
[10:06] <popey> it doesn't rely on hardware buttons
[10:06] <bigcalm> No. swipe the left hand edge to get the launcher and tap the ubuntu logo to get the "home"
[10:06] <popey> bigcalm: patience
[10:06] <dwatkins> how many buttons does it expect there to be? This will define what an Ubuntu phone is, like the way an iPhone has one, and most Android phones have 4 on screen, or in hardware with older models.
[10:06] <bigcalm> popey: lacking :)
[10:06] <popey> dwatkins: none
[10:07] <dwatkins> popey: how many are there normally?
[10:07] <popey> dwatkins: volume and power, that's all
[10:07] <popey> we expect none
[10:07] <popey> dunno how else to say it
[10:07] <dwatkins> I mean on screen, like with recent Android
[10:07] <popey>  figlet none
[10:07] <popey> ☻
[10:07] <dwatkins> hehe, fair enough
[10:08] <popey> swipe from left to pull in launcher, pull fully in from left to go to "home"
[10:08] <popey> pull from right to switch running applications
[10:08] <popey> pull from bottom to reveal toolbar
[10:08] <popey> pull from top to reveal indicators
[10:08] <popey> that's it, there are four edges you can swipe from, and that's it
[10:09] <popey> bigcalm: sometimes there's a runaway process which causes lag, not multiple apps
[10:09]  * mgdm invents an octagonal tablet to have more edges
[10:09] <popey> heh
[10:09] <popey> bigcalm: adb shell, run top. see what's eating cpu
[10:09] <popey> my money is on ueventd
[10:09] <bigcalm> popey: okay, ta
[10:10] <bigcalm> mgdm: I'm surprised that BSG didn't have those
[10:10] <mgdm> heh
[10:31]  * bigcalm shakes fist at weird lack of booting
[10:32] <bigcalm> Had to go in via the boot loader screen
[15:11] <SuperEngineer> Doctor Who at the Proms time folks
[15:11] <daftykins> yaaaawn
[15:13] <SuperEngineer> :( boohiss2u
[15:14] <dwatkins> SuperEngineer: which one?
[15:14]  * bigcalm has returned!
[15:16] <dwatkins> SuperEngineer: this one's great - "What happened to your hair?!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON5uV83k6wE
[15:18] <SuperEngineer> nope
[16:24] <DJones> Damm, watching Doctor Who at the Proms, why do I want to see a line of Cybermen doing Riverdance
[16:32] <penguin42> DJones: That's what would have happened if the Cyberman had taken over Ireland
[16:54] <moreati> I sense an unscraped barrel here, how about daleks on ice?
[16:56] <DJones> Daleks can fly so I don't think that would work too well, maybe paint them red and have the Red Dalek Arrows
[16:56] <zleap> lol
[16:57] <DJones> Maybe not something for the tv series, but could be quite funny for Comic Relief
[16:59] <zleap> suggest it
[16:59] <zleap> i am sure they are up for ideas
[17:00] <DJones> Was just looking to see if they had a contact email address
[17:02] <popey> i went to the BFI on Saturday to see two episodes of Dr Who
[17:02] <popey> and there was a panel discussion about 9th doctor.
[17:03] <popey> was fun
[17:08] <SuperEngineer> My Christmas gift wish.. Dr. Who lands in an episode of Big Bang Theory ;)
[22:03] <ali1234> Azelphur: http://hackaday.com/2013/03/18/hack-removes-firmware-crippling-from-nvidia-graphics-card/
[22:03] <ali1234> isn't that the problem you had?
[22:06] <Azelphur> ali1234: yup
[22:06] <ali1234> specifically he turned a GTX690 into a quadro card to make triple monitor work
[22:07] <Azelphur> nvidia = assholes, tl;dr
[22:07] <ali1234> well, get your soldering iron out
[22:07] <Azelphur> I unfortunately do not have a 690
[22:07] <Azelphur> I'm probably going to the greener AMD pastures for everything, fed up with Intel and nvidia firmware crippling.
[22:08] <ali1234> yeah but with AMD you just have to suffer constant driver bugs instead
[22:08] <Azelphur> yea, I'm hoping the situation is usable now
[22:09] <ali1234> do you still have all those 5870 cards?
[22:09] <Azelphur> nope
[22:10] <ali1234> what are they equivalent to, in terms of gaming? any idea?
[22:12] <Azelphur> ali1234: not too sure, probably an older nvidia card like a 4 series
[22:12]  * Azelphur shrugs
[22:12] <ali1234> but a good one though?
[22:12] <ali1234> like 480?
[22:12] <Azelphur> think so, probably best to look up the benchmarks
[22:40]  * AlanBell is runing xmir again
[22:40] <daftykins> it lives?
[22:41] <AlanBell> seems to work, not tried dual screen yet, will do tomorrow
[22:41] <AlanBell> apparently it basically functions with dual screen which is very impressive
[22:42] <AlanBell> heh, the input always on thing is *nasty*
[22:42] <AlanBell> switch to a vtty and stuff you type there is also typed in X
[22:44] <AlanBell> suspend and resume works
[22:45] <daftykins> ;/
[23:07] <penguin42> AlanBell: How about something like x11vnc or anything else that shares the screen ?


[05:23] <mazal> Mornings all
[05:23] <mazal> Morning maaz
[05:23] <mazal> maaz morning
[05:23] <Maaz> Howzit mazal
[05:23] <mazal> maaz you slow today
[05:23] <Maaz> mazal: Sorry...
[05:34] <mazal> Môre oom
[05:34] <Kilos> Môre mazal en ander ook
[05:51] <Kilos> hi Cryterion tahaan theblazehen skokkk dlPhreak ambo inetpro nuvolari etc
[05:51] <Cryterion> morning
[06:03] <paddatrapper> Morning everyone
[06:12] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:37] <anton_may> good mornings all
[06:47] <Kilos> hi anton_may
[06:47] <Kilos> busy outside so slow to answer, sorry
[06:47] <Kilos> ohi superfly you arrived
[06:48] <superfly> Kilos: good evening Kilos
[06:48] <superfly> yes, I am here.
[06:56] <anton_may> lol np
[07:15] <Kilos> hi urbanslug
[07:15] <mazal> Looks like this will be the first month I will need to top-up in more than a year
[07:16] <mazal> Thank goodness top-ups roll over
[07:16] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:16] <mazal> 20gig gone
[07:16] <Kilos> ouch
[07:16] <mazal> Those 2 upgrades that did it
[07:16] <mazal> Well most of it anyway
[07:17] <mazal> And 1 downgrade
[07:17] <mazal> And then updating the downgrade
[07:17] <mazal> Wow what an complicated month it was lol
[07:18] <mazal> Btw , anybody know of a weather widget that works on K 16.04 ?
[08:39] <pavlushka-> Hello every one!
[11:43] <magespawn> good afternoon
[11:43] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[12:18] <theblazehen> hey guys
[12:25] <magespawn> hi theblazehen
[12:26] <chesedo> afternoon all
[12:26] <Kilos> hi theblazehen chesedo magespawn
[12:27] <theblazehen> hey Kilos magespawn chesedo
[12:28] <chesedo> Maaz: tell kulelu88 Sorry, had an exam today so have been scarce... should be better by Tuesday
[12:28] <Maaz> chesedo: Righto, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode
[12:28] <chesedo> Kilos: we might have a new guy joining the channel soon...
[12:29] <Kilos> cool
[12:30] <chesedo> yea, might just have to push him a bit on monday (forgot to mention that he should check the ZA channel)
[12:30] <Kilos> new peeps always welcome
[12:32] <chesedo> yip, anyway just wanted to check if he popped in...
[12:32] <Kilos> lol
[12:32] <Kilos> rev him
[12:32]  * chesedo will propably be back on Tuesday
[13:27] <Kilos> hi monde
[13:28] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[13:30] <Kilos> chesedo ^^
[13:30] <Kilos> ?
[13:31] <Kilos> tahaan why so quiet
[13:31] <Kilos> you forgot how to use irc already?
[14:20] <magespawn> home time, chat later alll
[16:34] <theblazehen> If bar ones worked, I wonder if you could stack them to get a (24 + $numberOfBarOnes) hour day?
[16:43] <kulelu88> s
[16:43] <kulelu88> this SASL auth doesn't work :/
[16:43] <Kilos> ai!
[16:44] <Kilos> did you put the right password in
[16:45] <kulelu88> sdasd
[17:22] <Kilos> kulelu88 sdasd?
[17:23] <kulelu88> testing to see what my IP is. SASL doesn't work for me
[17:24] <Kilos> weird
[17:24] <Kilos> are you sure you entered the correct freenode password
[17:25] <Kilos> it must work man
[17:26] <kulelu88> when I use the /MSG option, that works
[17:26] <kulelu88> SASL doesn't
[17:26] <kulelu88> but i'm not the SSL-backed server now
[17:26] <kulelu88> *I'm on the
[17:28] <Kilos> ask one of the clever guys that uses hexchat
[17:28] <Kilos> theblazehen have you caught up yet?
[17:31] <magespawn> good evening
[17:31] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[17:31] <theblazehen> Kilos: Things aren't broken anymore (I think) but got way further behind :(
[17:31] <Kilos> you using hexchat or iirc
[17:32] <theblazehen> hey squish102
[17:32] <Kilos> squish102 o/
[17:32] <Kilos> have you stopped travelling yet?
[17:32] <Kilos> or have i got you mixed with someone else
[18:05] <inetpro> goeie more
[18:06] <Kilos> more inetpro
[18:06] <inetpro> Kilos: kom nou man, help vir daai oom van jou met die dondervoel
[18:06] <Kilos> hoe gaan dit
[18:06] <inetpro> ek het mos al mooi vir jou verduidelik
[18:07] <Kilos> ai! ek gebruik ctrl+ om dit groter te maak
[18:07] <magespawn> that was funny, had to metally translate that to understand
[18:07] <Kilos> lol
[18:07] <magespawn> mentally*
[18:08] <Kilos> inetpro help kulelu88 to get his ssl working
[18:08] <Kilos> im too dof
[18:08] <Kilos> he is supposed to be teaching and helping me
[18:09] <Kilos> imo it must work unless you have the wrong password
[18:09] <inetpro> kulelu88: what seems to be the problem sir?
[18:09] <Kilos> and not port 7070 or the other ssl port
[18:09] <kulelu88> nothing really. SASL doesn't work, that's all
[18:09] <kulelu88> not SSL, SASL :)
[18:10] <Kilos> ya that
[18:12] <kilos-> i think this one is working but dunno how to check
[18:13] <Kilos> oh my it says failed
[18:13] <Kilos> maybe because i have 2 clients open
[18:20] <inetpro> kulelu88: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/hexchat
[18:21] <magespawn> inetpro: can you use that to authenticate to nickserv?
[18:21] <inetpro> magespawn: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl
[18:22] <Kilos> hehe this gut and his links
[18:22] <Kilos> guy
[18:24] <inetpro> why should I explain it if it is there already?
[18:25] <Kilos> because you are cuter
[18:25] <Kilos> and some peeps are data strapped
[18:26] <Kilos> im surprised you didnt tell him man hexchat
[18:26] <Kilos> the buntu wiki is still under attack
[18:27] <Kilos> what could anyone gain from that
[18:28] <inetpro> who says they're under attack?
[18:29] <Kilos> have you tried editing pages
[18:29] <Kilos> last i heard only members can do it
[18:30] <inetpro> that doesn't mean it is under attack
[18:30] <Kilos> first they made it only etherpad users
[18:30] <Kilos> then that was used to get in with
[18:30] <Kilos> and also of course
[18:31] <Kilos> when the powers discuss wys to block the spammers must mean something
[18:31] <inetpro> that sounds like an assumption
[18:31] <Kilos> nope
[18:32] <Kilos>  we'd like ~xubuntu-team to be added to people who can edit the ubuntu wiki - our teams is a moderated one and is risk-free to include
[18:33] <Kilos> you even getting me to read the info on channels you lurk on
[18:33] <inetpro> that is an administrative restriction oom Kilos
[18:33] <Kilos> fly is late
[18:33] <Kilos> sigh
[18:33] <inetpro> makes sense to do that in order to restrict spammers
[18:34] <Kilos> an applicant for membership also complained
[18:34] <inetpro> now all we need is for you and other official members to rephrase the above message ans talk to the powers that be
[18:34] <Kilos> he said how do i apply for membership which requires my wiki page and i cant make one
[18:35] <Kilos> huh?
[18:35] <Kilos> what above message
[18:35] <inetpro> e.g., "we'd like ubuntuza-team to be added to people who can edit the ubuntu wiki..."
[18:35] <Kilos> oh
[18:35] <Kilos> oh y
[18:35] <magespawn> Kilos: it was not man sasl, just for a change
[18:35] <Kilos> my
[18:35] <Kilos> lol
[18:36] <Kilos> ya he saves man info for me
[18:36] <magespawn> ty inetpro
[18:36] <Kilos> sjoe maybe he is here to torture me
[18:36] <inetpro> ai!
[18:36]  * Kilos sniggers
[18:38] <inetpro> magespawn: you're welcome
[18:40] <Kilos> magespawn how come he never gives you a hard time
[18:40] <Kilos> conspiracy
[18:40] <Kilos> hi pavlushka-
[18:41] <magespawn> not too sure really, luck? if it is not itchy dont scratch it
[18:41] <Kilos> hahahaha
[18:41] <pavlushka-> Hello Kilos!
[18:42] <Kilos> pavlushka- send some bangalorie curry man
[18:42] <Kilos> and some hot weather
[18:43]  * magespawn had a awesome prawn/calamari/chicken curry with basmati rice today
[18:43] <Kilos> eish
[18:43] <Kilos> mouth watering
[18:43] <magespawn> second best thing about that curry R30
[18:43] <pavlushka-> Kilos, Sure, whenever it is possible
[18:44] <Kilos> prefer seafood unspiced and uncurried magespawn
[18:44] <Kilos> seafood too lekker just with salt
[18:51]  * mazal peeks in
[18:51] <Kilos> hehe
[18:51] <mazal> How's everyone this evening
[18:51] <Kilos> the whole internet thing has done you good
[18:54] <Kilos> uh oh
[18:56] <Sxuza> hey guys
[18:56] <Sxuza> anyone here using an LTE modem ?
[19:03] <paddatrapper> Sxuza: I'm actually about to start looking into getting one
[19:04] <Sxuza> ok paddatrapper
[19:05] <paddatrapper> Sxuza: Why do you ask?
[19:06] <Sxuza> im having problems with my xboxone gaming
[19:06] <paddatrapper> Ah. What kind of issues?
[19:08] <inetpro> Sxuza: I use a LTE router
[19:09] <inetpro> see http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/575591-The-Huawei-B593-LTE-discussion-thread
[19:09]  * inetpro is very happy with the B593s-601
[19:18] <kulelu88> gaming on LTE? yeah, it won't work for many reasons
[19:27] <Kilos> ai! now he leaves without explaining
[19:32] <magespawn> hey back
[19:33] <magespawn> ssl and sasl setup
[19:33] <magespawn> that irrsi link on freenode.net is out of date
[19:33] <magespawn> you no longer have to download that script
[19:34] <magespawn> irssi has sasl support built in, so that script is disabled automatically
[19:35] <inetpro> magespawn: are you using irssi?
[19:36] <inetpro> what happened to your quassel server?
[19:36] <magespawn> that has been gone for some while, since i closed the shop
[19:37] <magespawn> almost 3 years now
[19:37] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:39] <Kilos> let me try quick if it works on my hexchat before i sleep
[19:39] <Kilos> wbb
[19:41] <Kilos> nope says failed
[19:43] <inetpro> it talks to you?
[19:45] <Kilos> lol
[19:45] <Kilos> wait
[19:46] <Kilos> Capabilities supported: account-notify extended-join identify-msg multi-prefix sasl
[19:47] <Kilos> so is it working now?
[19:47] <Kilos> how does one check inetpro ?
[19:47] <inetpro> what do I know, I don't use hexchat
[19:48] <inetpro> sounds way too complicated for me
[19:48] <Kilos> i read while the freenode thing is still running, before it said it failed  but i dont see that this time
[19:48] <Kilos> sasl man not hexchat
[19:49] <Kilos> how does one check if you secure thing is working
[19:49] <Kilos> inetpro answer you using up my sleep time
[19:49] <inetpro> 736f756e64732077617920746f6f20636f6d706c69636174656420666f72206d65
[19:49] <Kilos> huh
[19:50] <Kilos> did you fall asleep on the keyboard
[19:51] <inetpro> String To HexaDecimal, "sounds way too complicated for me" = 736f756e64732077617920746f6f20636f6d706c69636174656420666f72206d65
[19:51] <Kilos> ai!
[19:51] <Kilos> see magespawn
[19:52] <inetpro> I can't chat in hex
[19:52] <Kilos> and i didnt scratch where is wasnt itchy either
[19:52] <Kilos> man
[19:52] <Kilos> ai!
[19:52] <Kilos> how does one check if the sasl is working
[19:54] <Kilos> Capabilities requested: account-notify extended-join identify-msg multi-prefix
[19:54] <Kilos> * Capabilities acknowledged: account-notify extended-join identify-msg multi-prefix
[19:56] <Kilos> Maaz tell kulelu88 choose server password in login method
[19:56] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode
[19:59] <Kilos> ok night all. sleep tight, see you tomorrow
[19:59] <inetpro> goeienag oom
[19:59] <Kilos> that includes you inetpro
[19:59] <Kilos> hehe
[19:59] <inetpro> lol
[20:01] <inetpro> don't want to see what he says about using binarychat
[20:14] <magespawn> lol that would be funny
[20:14] <magespawn> not sure if he go the referance there
[20:14] <magespawn> s/go/got
[20:15] <magespawn> also missed the last capabilites acknowledged i think


[05:19] <Kilos> morning everyone
[08:07] <dholbach> good morning
[08:09] <Kilos> morning dholbach
[08:09] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[08:18] <MooDoo> morning
[08:18] <Kilos> hi MooDoo
[08:19] <MooDoo> :)