[04:46] <micahg> hrm, are we going another release without libav9...
[06:15] <FourDollars> Who could review my fix at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pristine-tar/+bug/1101939 ?
[06:24] <FourDollars> woops, I should open another bug report.
[07:20] <freeflying> hi there, intended to upload a package, was rejected, seems my dev membership expired again without any notice
[11:50] <siretart> micahg: :-(
[11:51] <siretart> micahg: maybe we can go for libav10 in saucy+1 then
[11:51] <Laney> We /could/ still try for it now
[11:52] <Laney> but I checked out the state of the transition in Debian and it doesn't look so far along
[11:52] <Laney> so I'm not sure that's a wise idea at this point
[11:56] <siretart> Laney: maybe we could stage it in https://launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/libav9-saucy - I've tried that already for raring here: https://launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/libav9-raring
[11:56] <Laney> siretart: I think what's needed is people coming up with patches
[11:57] <siretart> indeed
[11:57] <Laney> I guess most of the Debian analysis will apply here too
[16:39] <ockham> could anyone pls upload gourmet 0.16.1 to saucy before FF?
[16:40] <ockham> packing is in ubuntu branch of github.com/thinkle/gourmet
[16:40] <ockham> *packaging
[16:41] <ockham> FF's at 8 pm UTC?
[16:44] <ockham> anyone? typing ftom my cell phone, battery almost empty
[16:46] <jtaylor> ockham: you can get a easy ffe for a while after ffe
[16:46] <jtaylor> 0.16.1 looks like bugfix?
[16:46] <jtaylor> that can also be done without one
[16:49] <jtaylor> hm I wonder if he still got that reply :/
[17:20] <ockham> i'm back. anyone willing to sponsor gourmet for me?
[17:21] <jtaylor> ockham: your upstream?, updating CHANGES would be nice
[17:22] <ockham> yeah. forgot about that this time. sorry, kinda embarrassing.
[17:23] <jtaylor> it would be good if it could be resynchronized with debian
[17:23] <jtaylor> seems the debian maintainer is responsive
[17:24] <ockham> i know. i've been trying to get the debian maintainer to adopt at least some of my changes
[17:24] <ockham> but he's kinda stubborn
[17:25] <ockham> see my related debian bug reports, past and present
[17:25] <jtaylor> k, so what changed in 16.1?
[17:26] <ockham> i've summed them up in the release notes at github
[17:27] <ockham> damn, leaving this wifi area soon. FF at 8 pm utc? can i talk to you later?
[17:27] <jtaylor> ockham: looks like bugfix only?
[17:27] <asomething> ockham, if you file a bug and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors, that will get it on the radar. since it looks like a bug fix release, it will still be ok after FF
[17:27] <jtaylor> those can be added after the ff
[17:28] <jtaylor> tumbleweed: you sponsored it last, want dibs?
[17:28] <ockham> okay. good to hear.
[17:28] <ockham> i contacted tumbleweed yesterday, but no reply yet
[17:28] <jtaylor> also new features can be added after ff if they have a good reason, the reason must be better the later it is
[17:28] <ockham> ok
[17:29] <ockham> thought i had to hurry, but in this case...
[17:31] <ockham> ok, thx everybody & bye for now.
[20:48] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: you're welcome to take it. I'm rather snowed under right now
[20:54] <Noskcaj> Are there any packages that have to et merged before the freeze? I've got nothing to do for the next hour
[21:41] <jtaylor> wtf its uds again?
[21:41] <jtaylor> second one I missed because I didn't even know its happening
[21:49] <Noskcaj> cjwatson, Do you mind if i attempt to merge debhelper?
[21:56] <TheLordOfTime> how can i force `debuild -S` to use a specific gpg key?  It says that it can't find a gpg privkey however there *is* one on the system.  I cant access my normal devscripts file but i would like to make the key be specified persistently so i don't have to provide it all the time.
[21:59] <jtaylor> thoe requirements seem mutually exclusive
[22:00] <jtaylor> an alias would work assuming you can modify your bashrc
[22:01] <jtaylor> but I wouldn'T see how you can do that but not the devscripts
[22:04] <TheLordOfTime> jtaylor, let me rephrase that.
[22:04] <TheLordOfTime> what do i need to put into devscripts to make it work?
[22:04] <TheLordOfTime> because on THIS system i don't have a devscripts file yet
[22:04] <TheLordOfTime> in my normal build system i do
[22:04] <jtaylor> DEBSIGN_KEYID=
[22:04] <TheLordOfTime> (but that system's not accessible so i need the format of what to enter)
[22:05] <TheLordOfTime> jtaylor, that worked, thanks
[22:07] <Noskcaj> cjwatson, I've merged debhelper at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/debhelper/saucy/+merge/183042 . Can you take a look?
[22:07] <Noskcaj> I'll be online but away, so if you need to contact me, please email me
[22:42] <cjwatson> Noskcaj: I don't think it's appropriate to merge debhelper at this point in the release cycle
[22:43] <cjwatson> At all
[22:43] <cjwatson> In general after Debian import freeze I don't think people should be focusing on merges - but debhelper in particular should be left alone unless there's a clear reason to merge it


[00:10] <x409> Did mythbuntu got all the feature of mythtv, I need to record 4 channel 24h/24 7day a week on my main server, and I have 6 Windows client over the network who need to acces to the video
[00:11] <x409> did it fits my need ?
[00:11] <tgm4883> x409, these 4 channels, are they security cameras?
[00:11] <tgm4883> (or other types of cameras)
[00:11] <x409> no, tv
[00:12] <tgm4883> x409, I suppose you could use it for that, although I'm not 100% sure the point that you are trying to do
[00:12] <tgm4883> there may be a much simpiler way to do it
[00:12] <tgm4883> maybe VLC+streaming?
[00:13] <x409> this is for radio station
[00:13] <x409> I need to record tv channel
[00:13] <x409> and the day after, they need to extract audio from the video to be play on air
[00:13] <x409> but, they need the video to know where is the good quote
[00:14] <tgm4883> why do you need to record 4 streams for 24 hours
[00:14] <x409> to record all the local news channel
[00:15] <x409> I will buy 4 tv tuner, this is not a problem, like Hauppauge PVR-150
[00:16] <x409> and i don't need a good resolution, something like 340x340 is OK
[00:16] <x409> the only thing i need is a full audio, no skipping frame
[00:18] <tgm4883> x409, you have 1 radio station?
[00:18] <x409> yes, in fact 2
[00:19] <tgm4883> are you just putting the raw audio feed onto the radio?
[00:20] <x409> the client listend the video, and record the audio with Adobe Audition and put it in the radio system
[00:22] <tgm4883> x409, IMO, this sounds convoluted. But I suppose you could create 4 manual schedules to record 24 hours of stream and run it each day
[00:23] <dmfrey> tgm4883, did you get to try out the latest version of the app?
[00:24] <tgm4883> dmfrey, I tried it a bit, but I haven't tested it too much
[00:24] <dmfrey> much faster interface
[00:24] <x409> tgm4883, ok
[00:24] <tgm4883> IIRC, there are some things that still don't work too well until everything gets loaded
[00:24] <tgm4883> dmfrey, IIRC, going into recorded programs, works, but if you try to drill down you have to wait a bunch
[00:25] <x409> tgm4883, so there is no build in option in mythtv to record one channel 24 hours by day, 7 day a week ?
[00:25] <dmfrey> ok
[00:25] <dmfrey> but it at least tells you it is downloading and to try back in a bit, right?
[00:25] <tgm4883> x409, it would be a manual schedule. But again, that isn't a very good use for a DVR
[00:25] <tgm4883> dmfrey, yea
[00:26] <dmfrey> ok, good
[00:26] <dmfrey> the thing people were complaining about was that you couldn't do anything while all the data was downloading
[00:26] <tgm4883> yea, which is bad
[00:27] <tgm4883> now you can at least do some things, but I'm wondering if there isn't a better way to do that. Honestly I haven't looked at the code though (and haven't written java since college)
[00:27] <dmfrey> it used to download, parse and load the db
[00:27] <tgm4883> Providing a fast enough backend is present, I don't see why this can't fly
[00:28] <dmfrey> now it just downloads and stores the json in the external storage cache
[00:28] <tgm4883> how much data are we exactly downloading on startup?
[00:28] <dmfrey> then loads the json into an internal cache for use while using the screens
[00:29] <dmfrey> they load into the cache really fast, then subsequent hits in the cache are almost instantaneous
[00:29] <dmfrey> right now, it loads everything
[00:29] <dmfrey> as the day changes, it will load the next days program guide
[00:30] <dmfrey> the upcoming only gets updated once a day, based on the last modified timestamp of the json file in the fs
[00:30] <dmfrey> the recorded programs gets updated after the last modified date on the recorded json is an hour old
[00:31] <dmfrey> you can always refresh manually the upcoming and recorded
[00:31] <dmfrey> it was asked to let you set the number of days of program guide you want to download
[00:31] <dmfrey> so will probably add that to the preferences
[00:32] <tgm4883> rather than download everything, would it be terrible to request it when needed?
[00:32] <tgm4883> well, a smaller amount
[00:33] <dmfrey> but, i agree, a fast enough backend should produce the data fast, but, what I have been finding, is that it takes a bit longer time to generate the data and transfer it over the wire
[00:33] <dmfrey> could do that, or just move the loading of the program guide to program guide screen, the recorded to the recording screen, etc.
[00:33] <dmfrey> also limit the days to download
[00:34] <dmfrey> my thought behind this way was to make it as much like a frontend as possible
[00:35] <dmfrey> once .26 is out, will be able to take advantage of etag to check if the network resource changed or not
[00:35] <dmfrey> as well as gzip compression
[00:35] <tgm4883> dmfrey, IMO, it might be better to only grab X hours of the guide. Keep that as minimal as possible. And work with upstream to flesh out the API
[00:36] <tgm4883> so when searching upcoming recordings or for a new schedule, it queries the backend for just that data
[00:38] <dmfrey> i will have to look into it
[00:39] <tgm4883> dmfrey, ok, just installed it on my wife's S3
[00:39] <dmfrey> luckily the recorded and upcoming are really quick
[00:39] <dmfrey> cool, not sure if I heard of anyone running it on one of them
[00:40] <tgm4883> I'm in that state where I can't see any of my episodes
[00:40] <tgm4883> I can see the shows, but can't drill down
[00:40] <tgm4883> oh, and it hangs while it downloads banners
[00:40] <dmfrey> yeah, shouldn't take too long, right?
[00:41] <tgm4883> well that banner part doesn't. maybe 10 seconds
[00:41] <tgm4883> which is kinda a long time
[00:41] <tgm4883> but it's a bit weird to wait this long for episode info
[00:42] <tgm4883> I also have an enhancement request that will really help out first installs
[00:42] <tgm4883> you want that in a bug report or here?
[00:43] <tgm4883> oh there's some oddity too
[00:43] <dmfrey> you can tell me about it, but it should go on github
[00:43] <dmfrey> i can add it
[00:43] <tgm4883> ok
[00:44] <tgm4883> if I click on Home, and I don't have a home configured (or even if it can't reach it) it should automatically kick off a scan and add a found backend
[00:44] <dmfrey> i think with the banners, I will kick off a download and the next time you come into it display them then
[00:44] <dmfrey> that should speed up the interface
[00:44] <dmfrey> oh, that's a good idea
[00:45] <tgm4883> so while this "please try again later" thing is progress. I'm still seeing it almost 10 minutes after opening this
[00:46] <tgm4883> with no indication that anything is actually happening
[00:47] <tgm4883> banners in landscape mode look funny because they don't span the width of the screen
[00:48] <tgm4883> dmfrey, so if you plan on keeping the downloading of everything, you need some sort of progress bar
[00:48] <dmfrey> ok
[00:49] <tgm4883> at this point, I have no idea whats going on and might have uninstalled this by now
[00:49] <tgm4883> it's kinda unresponsive, but I'll wait until it's finished loading everything to see if that is causing it
[00:51] <dmfrey> i wonder if it just didn't update local cache
[00:51] <dmfrey> it is probably done with recordings and upcoming
[00:51] <tgm4883> dmfrey, oh, it at least tells me that it was retreiving recording rules
[00:53] <tgm4883> if you can grab when the guide data ends, then you should make it so I can't progress past that point
[00:54] <tgm4883> i think it tells me that it's loading right nwo
[00:54] <tgm4883> also, I can't swipe left past midnight
[00:55] <dmfrey> i was thinking about that...that ViewPager would have 288 fragments in it then, if you download all 12 days of data available to the guide
[00:55] <tgm4883> either way, so I can't swipe to the next/previious day
[00:56] <dmfrey> there are buttons for next and previous day at the top of each page
[00:56] <tgm4883> dmfrey, yea I know there are buttons, but it's intuitive for me to just swipe to the right if it's 11:30PM
[00:57] <tgm4883> swipe to the right should just load next day
[00:57] <tgm4883> *If it would take me to 12:00 AM
[00:57] <tgm4883> not always :)
[00:57] <tgm4883> 20 minutes later, still can't watch recordings :/
[00:58] <dmfrey> can you look int /mnt/sdcard/Android/org.mytht/cache/programs on the fs?
[00:59] <tgm4883> hmm, maybe
[00:59] <tgm4883> is there a minimal files I can get to just use adb to get there?
[00:59] <tgm4883> otherwise I'll need to download something on the phone
[01:00] <dmfrey> astro should be able to do it
[01:01] <tgm4883> wait, it just loaded it
[01:01] <dmfrey> otherwise, you could do just the android sdk
[01:01] <tgm4883> it might be because I hit the refresh button a few minutes ago
[01:01] <dmfrey> don't need eclipse to do that, although the make a view that makes it easy
[01:05] <tgm4883> the two folders in the cache dir are program and programGuide
[01:06] <dmfrey> yes
[01:07] <dmfrey> oops, i said programs above
[01:08] <tgm4883> there is a bunch of things in the program folder
[01:09] <dmfrey> ok, so the cache isn't updating, so the files downloaded, but the cache wasn't notified
[01:09] <tgm4883> well it is now I think
[01:10] <tgm4883> I believe I have full functionality in the app now
[01:10] <tgm4883> although it's still sluggish
[01:12] <tgm4883> dmfrey, also, it would be nice if I could do something with the recordings other than watch them
[01:12] <tgm4883> such as delete/get info, etc
[01:12] <dmfrey> we are getting there
[01:12] <dmfrey> :)
[01:13] <dmfrey> i actually want, when you click on it, to go to a details view, then you can play, delete, etc.
[01:13] <dmfrey> see all the artwork
[01:13] <dmfrey> that kind of stuff
[01:14] <tgm4883> dmfrey, are you keeping aspect ratio on the banners?
[01:14] <tgm4883> IDK if it's just me, but they look odd on my nexus 7
[01:15] <dmfrey> the latest code has that fixed
[01:15] <dmfrey> they were too large for some displays at native resolution
[01:15] <tgm4883> also, should probably do something to check resolution and do h/w based on that
[01:15] <tgm4883> I think i'm on 9/22
[01:16] <tgm4883> although the about screen doesn't tell me ;)
[01:16] <dmfrey> yeah, there is code out there in git that fixed that
[01:17] <dmfrey> also, added all the dashboard artwork, and changed name of the app to MythTV Android Frontend
[01:17] <dmfrey> code is going to be moving to a MythTV Clients organization under MythTV
[01:17] <tgm4883> heh
[01:17] <tgm4883> I just saw the attempt at widescreen tablet support :)
[01:18] <tgm4883> gives me this very thin list of show titles on the right
[01:18] <dmfrey> yeah, that was a problem
[01:19] <dmfrey> i reverted all that back since some people had some issues with it
[01:19] <tgm4883> dmfrey, just a thought, rather than the previous/next dual pane approach, what if you threw up the coverart on the left pane
[01:19] <tgm4883> it would be skinnier leaving more space for show info
[01:20] <tgm4883> which brings me to.. Adding season/episode if available to the episodes
[01:21] <dmfrey> could you mock that up and send it to me?
[01:21] <dmfrey> what do you mean?
[01:21] <tgm4883> heh
[01:21] <tgm4883> which part
[01:21] <tgm4883> the left pane, or right pane
[01:21] <dmfrey> your idea of what the two panes together should look like
[01:22] <dmfrey> what do you mean about the "Adding season/episode if available to the episodes"?
[01:22] <tgm4883> sec
[01:24] <tgm4883> dmfrey, so I'm going to try to explain this rather than mock it up as it's kinda done
[01:25] <dmfrey> ok
[01:25] <tgm4883> so when listing episodes, list them as "Title - SXXEXX"
[01:25] <tgm4883> and possibly sort them by season/episode
[01:25] <tgm4883> currently they are just listed by episode title
[01:25] <dmfrey> it is currently set to sort them by season/episode
[01:25] <tgm4883> awesome
[01:25] <dmfrey> however, i am finding that the services api is not always populating it
[01:26] <dmfrey> so that is blank
[01:26] <tgm4883> dmfrey, well it might not always be available?
[01:26] <dmfrey> right
[01:26] <tgm4883> so blank is fine if that is the case
[01:26] <tgm4883> as for the other pane
[01:26] <tgm4883> do you happen to use a current mythbuntu pane?
[01:26] <tgm4883> mythbuntu theme?
[01:29] <dmfrey> no, i currently have the steppe theme installed
[01:29] <dmfrey> oh, wait, i know what you mean
[01:31] <dmfrey> that would be really nice for a tablet
[01:31] <tgm4883> yea
[01:32] <dmfrey> i struggle with some of the ui stuff, but I will see if Tom can produce a view for tablets that resembles that
[01:33] <tgm4883> awesome
[01:33] <tgm4883> keep up the good work. I'll keep testing when you need me to :)
[01:36] <dmfrey> thanks, and please post your ideas to the github
[01:36] <dmfrey> issues list
[01:36] <dmfrey> these were great
[01:36] <dmfrey> i added the notifications while we were talking
[01:37] <dmfrey> :)
[01:37] <dmfrey> so next release will have them
[03:01] <rhpot1991> dmfrey: mxplayer is streaming fine on my n7
[03:01] <rhpot1991> kinda choppy though
[03:02] <dmfrey> that's good
[03:03] <dmfrey> i wonder why it is choppy
[03:03] <dmfrey> just added notifications to the download services
[03:03] <rhpot1991> kinda reminds me of how it skips in the native player
[03:04] <rhpot1991> testing some now
[03:04] <dmfrey> so people will know they are doing something
[03:04] <dmfrey> hmm, sure it is using mx player?
[03:04] <rhpot1991> upping to 720p seems better
[03:04] <rhpot1991> still a little blocky though
[03:05] <rhpot1991> did you take the code out that makes it automagically go back to the recording screen?
[03:05] <rhpot1991> mine is welcoming me back to a white screen now
[03:05] <rhpot1991> and I have to hit an extra back
[03:05] <dmfrey> yeah, while back
[03:05] <dmfrey> we might e able to put that back in now
[03:05] <rhpot1991> never got to the bottom of why that broke your phone?
[03:06] <dmfrey> no
[03:06] <dmfrey> that might have been the internal player
[03:06] <dmfrey> feel free to add that back in there
[03:06] <dmfrey> i will try it out
[03:06] <dmfrey> test it
[03:06] <dmfrey> on this phone
[03:07] <rhpot1991> hmmm native player looks about the same on here now
[03:08] <rhpot1991> new icons are looking nice too btw
[03:09] <dmfrey> yeah, i really like them
[03:09] <dmfrey> is the interface fast?
[03:10] <rhpot1991> besides the initial load of recordings I haven't had to wait
[03:11] <rhpot1991> hmmm didn't like it when I bumped the video bitrate for internal player
[03:14] <rhpot1991> dmfrey: can the recording rules save yet?
[03:14] <rhpot1991> I'm guessing no?
[03:14] <dmfrey> no
[03:14] <dmfrey> can only make active or inactive
[03:14] <dmfrey> tom is still working on that interface
[03:15] <dmfrey> i can't quite seem to get the ui layout stuff to line up just right
[03:15] <rhpot1991> I see some text overlap
[03:15] <dmfrey> where at?
[03:15] <rhpot1991> recording rules
[03:15] <rhpot1991> here I'll email
[03:17] <rhpot1991> in your gmail
[03:17] <dmfrey> ah, see that, thanks
[03:17] <dmfrey> that on the nexus?
[03:17] <rhpot1991> on n7
[03:18] <dmfrey> ok, thanks
[03:18] <rhpot1991> I don't have latest on my gn don't think
[03:18] <rhpot1991> I'll push it on there tomorrow and verify
[03:18] <dmfrey> ok
[03:18] <dmfrey> be sure to pull so you get the new stuff i did tonight
[03:18] <rhpot1991> dmfrey: I think we are ready for the market in a beta capacity
[03:19] <rhpot1991> interface and playback are both working well currently
[03:20] <rhpot1991> just sent you one more, notice the really large row
[03:20] <dmfrey> i think so too
[03:20] <dmfrey> hmm, i wonder why that is doing that
[03:20] <rhpot1991> not sure
[03:21] <rhpot1991> all my other upcomings are fine
[03:21] <rhpot1991> long text?
[03:21] <rhpot1991> loosk like it pushed the other stuff off screen
[03:21] <rhpot1991> maybe it tried to roll them or somethingt
[03:23] <rhpot1991> dmfrey: looks like channels in the guide are sorted by tuner or source first before channel number
[03:23] <rhpot1991> my locals are showing up before my cable card ones
[03:23] <rhpot1991> by design?
[03:26] <dmfrey> couldn't sort by number
[03:26] <dmfrey> since they usually have a _ in them
[05:10] <bre> Hi guys, I need help with setting up a tv tuner could anyone be of assistance?
[23:16] <zcutlip> Hello, I'm having basically this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/1005224 and was wondering if there's any news or known workarounds?  There was a fair amount of discussion of it on the list in the april/may timeframe but not as much recently
[23:16] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #1005224 “Video frame buffering failed too many times” : Bugs : “mythtv” package : Ubuntu
[23:18] <zcutlip> Weirdly it only affects one of my 2 HD-PVRs, only live tv, and regardless whether the other is in use.
[23:18] <zcutlip> both HD-PVRs have been updated to the latest firmware. 0x1e, I believe
[23:19] <zcutlip> I'm running Mythbuntu 12.04 and and tracking Mythbuntu's 0.25-fixes
[23:55] <Patrickdk> oh, that issue is easy to fix :)
[23:56] <Patrickdk> just rewring a few seconds
[23:56] <Patrickdk> rewind


[15:52] <PaulW2U> Added a few more articles and written summaries but sill around nine to do
[15:53] <PaulW2U> It seems it was just me and CG this week for whatever reason
[15:54] <PaulW2U> jose, I'm not sure I have the time or the energy to finish the summaries this week
[15:55] <PaulW2U> Perhaps bullet point blogosphere?
[16:37] <jose> PaulW2U: I'm gonna take a look at it in a while, no worries


[18:55] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: The time has come...
[18:56] <OvenWerks> It looks like it is time to change the config file format
[18:56] <OvenWerks> The xml lib looks easier to use. Th json format looks cleaner to read
[19:03] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I am adding a data base of all the devices in a system to the config file so that people can hide them set rate/buffer/nperiods/i/o per device. With the whole set of loop devices we saw, I think the lines will be too long to do a list of space separated devices names
[19:05] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Yeah, the existing config file keeps crashing if it's formatted incorrectly, so I agree.
[19:05] <OvenWerks> I did not know that. I have not had that happen here
[19:06] <OvenWerks> Or is that old to new...
[19:22] <OvenWerks> All of the examples are too simple, they do not explain adding nodes.
[19:31] <Eickmeyer[m]> Nah, it's people in Fedora mostly. Simply deleting .config/autojack fixes it.
[19:48] <OvenWerks> I may make a small utility that takes autojackrc in and puts out autojack.json if the first exists and the second not. Autojack can run it on startup if it find old and not new.
[19:48] <OvenWerks> That way studio-controls and autojack can be clean, one format only.
[19:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> That might work.
[22:51] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: this is going to be a rather large change :P
[23:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Are we looking at a 3.0 bump?
[23:33] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: it is no wonder setting up json looked so hard. What they don't tell you is it is basically a python dict.
[23:33] <OvenWerks> I was going for a 2.1
[23:34] <OvenWerks> so If I create a python dict to hold all of my config options... one command savs it that way
[23:39] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Ooo! nice.


[18:39] <muaazc> bottazzini, i just installed ubuntu today, im new to it... but i got nvidia
[18:40] <skinkitten> How do I change the boot-order on startup? is it f2?
[18:40] <hspcd> bottazzini: It is provided.  I downloaded it.  It addresses stability issues and needs to be installed.  I tried using a FreeDOS live CD but the exe from HP won't run in DOS mode.
[18:41] <Myrkur> MonkeyDust: nvmd I was just looking at the wrong disk, I thought i mounted /dev/sda5 but it was /dev/sda6 that I wanted...
[18:42] <bottazzini> muaazc, press windows(super) key on your with your ubuntu
[18:42] <bottazzini> muaazc, type additional drivers
[18:42] <bottazzini> and choose what video drive you want to use
[18:42] <bottazzini> then you will be able to use a second monitor =)
[18:43] <muaazc> ok thanks alot , bottazzini
[18:45] <skinkitten> so I changed the boot order to be the bootable usb - the screen is now - Missing parameter in configuration file. Keyword: path \n gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image \n boot: - it repeats those last two lines over & over
[18:46] <skinkitten> is the bootable usb bugged?
[18:46] <deadmund> Am I using the correct syntax?  Can I do sudo apt-file search "*java-8*" to get packages with paths containing "java-8" ?
[18:49] <Pici> deadmund: You don't need sudo for that, nor do you need the wildcards.  But make sure you've run sudo apt-file update recently.
[18:49] <squinty> deadmund:  or you can also use the search facilities at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:49] <jbouron> Hi, how can fix wrong button colors with some theme ? For example with Siva Flat the window background is black and the buttons white O.O
[18:50] <Gugg> join
[18:50] <deadmund> Pici, for me, apt-file search java-8-oracle returns nothing, but I have a file on my machine:  /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle/jre/bin/java
[18:50] <jbouron> exit
[18:50] <deadmund> Pici, And I did update.  Any ideas why it isn't working?
[18:51] <jbouron> anyone ?
[18:53] <Pici> deadmund: Probably because that was not installed by apt directly.  I believe that oracle java gets downloaded/installed by a post-install process of the Ubuntu package.
[18:53] <deadmund> Pici, interesting... thanks
[18:53] <_7krumper> fdvfd
[18:57] <navid> Anyone know the solution to this python error on my ubuntu server ImportError: No module named 'sqlalchemy', google isnt being too helpful
[18:58] <Pici> Navid: install python-sqlalchemy via apt, or just the sqlalchemy package from pip if you are working in a venv.
[18:59] <Navid> Already have python-sqlalchemy through apt.
[18:59] <Navid> How would I go abouts doing it through pip
[19:00] <jbouron> anyone for button color issue ? Plz.  How can i fix this?
[19:01] <Navid> I did it via pip, Requirement already up-to-date: SQLAlchemy in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages   was the returned string. Maybe its cause I have python 2.7 installed?
[19:08] <roothorick> any tricks for speeding up boot time? My laptop seems to spend most of its time between the firmware handing off to GRUB and the kernel calling init. What can I do to shorten that timeframe?
[19:09] <_7krumper> blu
[19:10] <_7krumper> ***
[19:16] <_7krumper> -
[19:16] <_7krumper> _
[19:16] <FLeiXiuS> I have a 24" monitor connected via HDMI to a AMD 5870.  My resolution is 1080p but it looks as if its 640x380. Any ideas?
[19:16] <_7krumper> -
[19:16] <_7krumper> -_
[19:17] <_7krumper> -
[19:17] <FLeiXiuS> :-P
[19:17] <_Trullo> resolution should be 1900x1200
[19:17] <k1l> FLeiXiuS: any adapters?
[19:17] <_Trullo> 1920x1200 that is
[19:17] <FLeiXiuS> _Trullo, yes.  It is.
[19:17] <flipsidecreation> hello, has anyone else have issues with 14.10 and H.264 video glitching / artifacting?
[19:17] <FLeiXiuS> k1l, Adapters - nope just HDMI
[19:18] <k1l> FLeiXiuS: the ubuntu fglrx package installed?
[19:18] <FLeiXiuS> k1l, Yep.  Tried that initially.  Then installed the omega drivers from amd
[19:18] <jbouron> FLeiXiuS: I experienced this bug earlier. Check forums for solution I don't remember it sorry
[19:19] <k1l> well, we cant know what the website drivers do or dont.
[19:19] <chulis> I have a big problem i have installed xubuntu64 on my new laptop amd a6-6310 with 4gb and almost every day it falls down my old laptop has lubuntu32 and never fall down and my answer is if i install lubuntu32 on my new laptop it will be all right? excuse for my english
[19:19] <FLeiXiuS> jbouron, It's not overscan/underscan related.  Driving me nuts..do you remember any clues as to what it was
[19:19] <FLeiXiuS> k1l, Agreed thats why I'm back on the provided fglrx packages
[19:19] <jbouron> FLeiXiuS: When you try to change resolution you only have 640*800, that's it ?
[19:20] <FLeiXiuS> jbouron, No it lists all supported and its currently set to 1920x1200
[19:21] <jbouron> FLeiXiuS: So it's not the same as mine, sorry I would like to help you more :(
[19:21] <FLeiXiuS> xrandr has it set correctly as well.  Just everything is ridiculously large.
[19:21] <FLeiXiuS> Looks like something is scaling it up.  Not sure what
[19:22] <k1l> FLeiXiuS: so what drivers are actually in use there?
[19:22] <k1l> FLeiXiuS: did it work with the clean ubuntu fglrx?
[19:22] <FLeiXiuS> k1l, It hasnt worked since i switched to hdmi
[19:22] <FLeiXiuS> k1l, But I'm using 2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2
[19:24] <k1l> FLeiXiuS: no change when you set it in the amd conrtl settings thingy? catalyst or what its called?
[19:24] <FLeiXiuS> k1l, Nope - no modifications made.  Only changes made were new video card using hdmi.
[19:24] <FLeiXiuS> Went from a 6800 to a 5800
[19:25] <FLeiXiuS> I had performed a complete reinstall to validate the drivers were at least sane/compiled correctly
[19:31] <chulis> I have a big problem i have installed xubuntu64 on my new laptop amd a6-6310 with 4gb and almost every day it falls down my old laptop has lubuntu32 and never fall down and my answer is if i install lubuntu32 on my new laptop it will be all right? excuse for my english
[19:31] <lucidguy> Anyone know there stuff with CUPS/printers in general?
[19:33] <skinkitten> FINALLY! I can sudo things again.
[19:33] <Sacrelicious> Hey all, I'm having some issues with a couple games recognizing my gamepad for some reason, even though linux does recognize it. Is there any software available that will allow me to bind gamepad keys to keyboard keys? I recall using a few of these with windows in the past.
[19:33] <wifimisery> hello I am in need of help with Ubuntu
[19:33] <skinkitten> what is a good irc client for ubuntu?
[19:33] <wifimisery> Does anybody know how to fix broken WiFi?
[19:34] <mitt> skinkitten: xchat
[19:34] <TheEternalAbyss_> does digital ocean offer a paid support service or something?
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> skinkitten  try a few, then use the one you like most
[19:34] <k1l> TheEternalAbyss_: best is to ask them, and i think yes :)
[19:34] <wifimisery> I have posted on Ask Ubuntu but not able to get help. I really need my WiFi to work, is there anyone who can help me?
[19:34] <k1l> skinkitten: start with hexchat.
[19:34] <mitt> wifimisery: describe the problem
[19:35] <jbouron> Sacrelicious: do the controller works with some games or not at all
[19:35] <wifimisery> Hi Mitt, thank you. Unfortunately I can't describe much, I just can't connect to wifi... can I link to my Ask Ubuntu question, there's details on the device in use there...
[19:36] <mitt> wifimisery: then send us the link
[19:36] <divBy0> hi, does anyone know of a program that will give process information through a gui like maybe by moving a cursor over a window you can get the process name?
[19:36] <wifimisery> http://askubuntu.com/questions/575216/wifi-suddenly-cant-connect
[19:38] <k1l> wifimisery: what router is it?
[19:38] <Gregory>  /join #devandclick
[19:39] <mitt> divBy0: not sure about exactly what you want but gnome-system-monitor is very easy to use and the processes there are described, it's included by default in Ubuntu
[19:39] <divByz0> im just looking for a way to find the name of a process through gui so i can kill it in top
[19:39] <wifimisery> Hi Kll, how do I get the info needed about the router? The router came from my internet company which is SaskTel... my tablet and other laptops are able to connect to the WiFi though...
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> divBy0  system monitor
[19:39] <divByz0> ok thanks monkeydust and mitt
[19:40] <divByz0> how does one register their nick in freenode?
[19:40] <mitt> wifimisery: do you know the name of your wireless card? probably drivers in kernel are not included
[19:40] <mitt> wifimisery: install lshw if you don't know
[19:41] <k1l> wifimisery: long story short: i had the same issue with my nexus4 android smartphone since using the cm12 nightlies form january 18th. all other devices had no issues. i deleted the entry for my nexus4s mac adress in the router settings. that solved it. router is a avm fritzbox
[19:41] <k1l> !register | divByz0
[19:41] <divByz0> k thanks all
[19:43] <divBy0> !register | divBy0
[19:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> okay, my repeat-key functionality just stopped working out of nowhere.
[19:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> weird. opening the settings screen said it was still turned on.
[19:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> so i toggled it twice and that seems to have fixed it.
[19:47]  * NoImNotNineVolt scratches head and moves on
[19:52] <pjHarv> #libgdx
[19:54] <Fweddy> so is adding someone to the sudo group essentially the same as "giving them root access"
[19:54] <k1l> Fweddy: yes
[19:56] <pjHarv> .
[19:56] <Fweddy> ok. is there a different commonly used way or is this how it is typically done?
[19:56] <skinkitten> How do I unzip a zip from the terminal to a directory?
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> Fweddy  use sudo visudo
[19:56] <k1l> Fweddy: its the ubuntu way. since ubuntu doesnt handle root-access with the root-account but with the sudo command
[19:57] <k1l> !unzip | skinkitten
[19:57] <Fweddy> ok thanks
[19:57] <skinkitten> !extract | skinkitten
[19:57] <k1l> Fweddy: is there an issue or is this just a question in general
[19:57] <Lachezar> Hey all. Is it possible to use a Bluetooth headset to my Xubuntu laptop? Lenovo T530?
[19:57] <Fweddy> k1l: just a general question
[19:57] <k1l> !zip | skinkitten
[19:58] <k1l> skinkitten: at the bottom of that page cli usage is mentioned
[19:59] <Fweddy> k1l: Is it ok to assume that a newly created user that isn't added to any groups will only be able to browse the file system but not change anything?
[19:59] <pbx> Fweddy, no
[20:00] <Lachezar> Whatever I try I get 'Stream setup failed'
[20:00] <skinkitten> k1l, how can I understand the letters for untar e.g. tar jxwfuz29rewf <filename>
[20:00] <Fweddy> pbx: what can they change?
[20:00] <k1l> Fweddy: that depends on the file permissions set to the files and folders. if they are set to "everyone can do everything" like 777 then no. if they are set quite strict he even cant read them, like the auth.log etc.
[20:00] <NoImNotNineVolt> skinkitten: man tar
[20:00] <pbx> Fweddy, anything that's world-writeable
[20:01] <Fweddy> k1l: howabout on a fresh ubuntu install. are the permissions locked down a fair bit?
[20:01] <k1l> Fweddy: so most important system settings should be set as "only sudo can write" and yes, then your assumption is right.
[20:02] <Fweddy> so unless they were explicitly changed to 777 or the like. ok cool
[20:02] <k1l> skinkitten: i cant remember the letters myself and need to look them up every time.
[20:02] <k1l> skinkitten: see http://xkcd.com/1168/  :)
[20:03] <k1l> Fweddy: yes. there are some very wrong howtos and "tips" which suggest to just change the permissions to 777 all the time. but they spoil that security system.
[20:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> k1l: skinkitten: `tar -xzvf something.tar.gz` to extract. s/x/c/ to create instead of extract, or something like that :P
[20:04] <Fweddy> k1l: noted
[20:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> -xzvf covers 99% of usage. when's the last time you created a tarball? :P
[20:04] <skinkitten> k1l, :) How about unzipping a zip to a directory? is there a way to grep the files in the direction I want to push it
[20:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> don't bother.
[20:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> put the tarball in a directory by itself. tar -xzvf it. then mv as needed after.
[20:06] <k1l> skinkitten: unzip file.zip -d destination_folder
[20:06] <k1l> where destination_folder looks like /path/to/a/place/
[20:06] <skinkitten> k1l, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8107886/create-folder-for-zip-file-and-extract-to-it
[20:06] <skinkitten> :)
[20:07] <chulis> I have a big problem i have installed xubuntu64 on my new laptop amd a6-6310 with 4gb and almost every day it falls down my old laptop has lubuntu32 and never fall down and my answer is if i install lubuntu32 on my new laptop it will be all right? excuse for my english
[20:08] <bprompt> chulis:    sure, though I"d rather install lubuntu 64bits though
[20:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> chulis: if you're dealing with two different laptops, it might be a hardware problem. if it's a hardware problem, changing the os might not help.
[20:09] <chulis> with lubuntu64 will be better?
[20:10] <chulis> the laptop es new a i think it has be ok
[20:10] <chulis> it has amd radeon r4 graphic
[20:11] <bprompt> chulis:    it'd be lighter, I assume an amd a6, is just an Acer aspire with amd cpu... so is likely either a dual-core cpu, or a 64bit single-core, so I'd go with the 64bit of Lubuntu
[20:11] <chulis> its acer aspire e16 amd cuad core
[20:11] <bprompt> and those acer aspire are usually low on ram, only 1 ram bank IIRC, that can be maxed out at 4gbs
[20:12] <chulis> amd a6-6310
[20:12] <chulis> it has 4gb ram and 8 swap
[20:13] <Swft> so I have compiled a binary on my SSH server and now I need it. how can I get it? it doesn't have a web frontend so unfortunately, im stuck
[20:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> Swft: scp
[20:13] <chulis> so its better to change my distro?
[20:13] <Swft> NoImNotNineVolt, whats that?
[20:13] <bprompt> chulis:    then your "fall down" or slow down, is likely due to the ram footprint of xubuntu....Lubuntu is meant to be lighter, but I'd go with the 64bit, though apps can take advantage of the cycle processing
[20:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> Swft: ssh + cp
[20:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> if you can ssh, you can copy.
[20:14] <Swft> NoImNotNineVolt; the SSH server is different
[20:14] <Swft> NoImNotNineVolt; i mean, i didnt compile that binary on my OWN system
[20:14] <chulis> ok thanks il try with lub64
[20:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> perhaps i misunderstood.
[20:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> you want to get a file from host A to host B.
[20:14] <Swft> yes, that's right
[20:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> does host A run an ssh server?
[20:14] <Swft> yes.
[20:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> what OS does host B run?
[20:15] <Swft> linux
[20:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> okay, on host b:
[20:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> scp username_on_host_A@host_A:/path/to/file/on/host/A/filename.ext ./
[20:16] <Swft> NoImNotNineVolt; then?
[20:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's it.
[20:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> that copies the file from Host A to the current working directory on host B.
[20:17] <k1l> !scp | Swft
[20:17] <Swft> let me try
[20:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> for more information on scp, type into a console: man scp
[20:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's like cp. but it works with remote files over ssh.
[20:18] <sssss_> anyone here us xchat?
[20:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> god no. not since a long time ago.
[20:18] <k1l> sssss_: some do. but you can switch to hexchat which is the successor of xchat
[20:18]  * Lachezar had to install pulseaudio module for bluetooth
[20:19] <Swft> k1l; do you use irssi?
[20:19] <sssss_> I'm trying to find some chat text (years old), but I can't remember the network, or even the name of the room. But I know the scrollback log would appear if I could only remember and enter the right place. Does anyone know where XChat stores scrollback logs? It would be awfully handy to find previous rooms, dates, and the text. What type of file would it be?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> Swft  i use irssi
[20:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> ah, that's a good question.
[20:20] <k1l> sssss_: its stored in the .xchat folder in the users home
[20:20] <sssss_> im using it on windows, though.
[20:21] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | sssss_
[20:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> heh
[20:21] <k1l> sssss_: well, then ask the windows guys or better the xchat guys.
[20:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> sssss_: try the windows equivalent of the home directory?
[20:22] <sssss_> i assume the actual file used to store the logs is the same on any platform
[20:22] <bottazzini> sssss_, on linux would be ~/.xchat2/log or something like this
[20:22] <sssss_> okay, let me hunt
[20:22] <bottazzini> maybe on windows would be something near this
[20:23] <k1l> sssss_: i answered you the ubuntu related storage. for other OSs please ask their support or ask xchat guys. thanks
[20:24] <sssss_> does xchat have its own irc channel?
[20:24] <bottazzini> Does anyone know here if ubuntu will start using systemd instead of upstart?
[20:24] <NoImNotNineVolt> yes.
[20:24] <NoImNotNineVolt> bottazzini: yes.
[20:24] <bottazzini> when NoImNotNineVolt
[20:24] <bottazzini> ?
[20:25] <k1l> bottazzini: target is 16.04 as standard. but it will be installable from 15.04 on
[20:25] <k1l> !alis | sssss_
[20:25] <bottazzini> kl1 nice :)
[20:26] <sssss_> oh wow, thanks guys!
[20:26] <sssss_> in application data I found the entire folder, laballed scrollback, and it has everything neatly in folders with txts of all previous logs
[20:26] <sssss_> thank you for leading me where to find it
[20:27] <bottazzini> ;)
[20:29] <Ali_linux> Hi!Is there any proxy app for Ubuntu 14.10 ?
[20:30] <bottazzini> Ali_linux, redsocks or tsocks maybe?
[20:30] <bekks> Ali_linux: what exactly are you trying to do?
[20:30] <mucus> where can i find builds of ubuntu phone?
[20:31] <SchrodingersScat> !phone | mucus
[20:31] <Ali_linux> I want to go Facebook! Facebook is blocked in our country.
[20:31] <substormic> 1
[20:32] <bottazzini> Ali_linux, i'm curious
[20:32] <NoImNotNineVolt> Ali_linux: and nothing of value was lost.
[20:32] <bottazzini> where are you from ?
[20:32] <Ali_linux> I'm Iranian.
[20:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> greetings, persian friend :)
[20:33] <bekks> Ali_linux: So you need to use a proxy server which is located outside of Iran. At that point a "proxy app" on your local computer will not help you.
[20:33] <sssss_> good day
[20:34] <bottazzini> Ali_linux, have you tried Tor project?
[20:34] <Ali_linux> But,Tor Project site is blocked too!
[20:39] <Ali_linux> Guys!I didn't find any Tor download link!all of them are blocked.What can I do?
[20:40] <bbbbb> Ali_linux: use a proxy or something
[20:40] <bbbbb> or make a free shell and wget it there then scp it from your desktop
[20:40] <bbbbb> /j #bshellz
[20:41] <Ali_linux> Thanks!
[20:41] <bbbbb> no problem!
[20:42] <Ali_linux> I found a download link that was not blocked.
[20:42] <bbbbb> cool
[20:43] <Ali_linux> Bye!
[20:49] <Jul13n> msg NickServ REGISTER jeouzan<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:49] <mucus> nice
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> change your password!
[20:50] <mucus> all of them
[20:50] <xangua>  Not nice😈
[20:50] <Jordan_U> JustSighDudes: You should always communicate with nickserv in the server window so there is no chance of accidentally sending your password to a channel.
[20:51] <bottazzini> lol
[20:51] <Jordan_U> JustSighDudes: Sorry, tab completion failed since jul13n left :)
[20:58] <marcelo> Hey, Is wine really that effective?
[20:58] <hwill2> i'm really disappointed with how deliberately sloppy sound is in ubuntu. the help docs online aren't helpful. my sound card is detected and the channels are unmuted but i still get no sound
[20:58] <bbbbb> marcelo: i guess it depends on what you're using it for
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> !wine | marcelo find out
[20:58] <bbbbb> marcelo: never used it though
[20:58] <xangua> marcelo: depends, check wine appdb
[20:59] <marcelo> ubottu? is that like a bot or something?
[20:59] <NoImNotNineVolt> hwill2: don't worry, the guy that brought you pulseaudio is the same guy that's bringing us systemd.
[20:59] <marcelo> yep, bot it is
[21:00] <mucus> damn
[21:00] <mucus> ubottu is really down on itself
[21:00] <hwill2> how do i just get my damn sound working?
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> hwill2  by not using profane language
[21:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> hwill2: you're experiencing an isolated issue, it seems.
[21:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> i hate ubuntu with a passion, but i've never had problems with audio.
[21:01] <mucus> you hate ubuntu with a passion?
[21:01] <mucus> what is there to hate?
[21:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> mucus: beyond the scope of an irc rant.
[21:01] <marcelo> linux - where there's a bunch of stuff to learn
[21:02] <mucus> ubuntu is a great place for plebs (like me) to get their feet wet in linux
[21:02] <NoImNotNineVolt> perhaps.
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> marcelo  learn ubuntu like you learned windows or mac: by using it
[21:02] <bbbbb> is there any way to get the sound working close to how good it works in windows?
[21:02] <mucus> don't suggest arch as a first linux os
[21:02] <SchrodingersScat> it's also offtopic here
[21:02] <bbbbb> it feels way way louder in windows and more ambient
[21:02] <NoImNotNineVolt> slackware 3.4 was my first linux.
[21:03] <marcelo> I have learned ubuntu, and I fell in love with the terminal
[21:03] <k1l> bbbbb: on my machine it works as it should work (llike on windows)
[21:03] <bbbbb> k1l: did you do anything special to get it that way?
[21:03] <bbbbb> it's night and day difference for me
[21:04] <k1l> bbbbb: no. but you can adjust the volume in the soundsettings in the top bar.
[21:04] <k1l> even an own volume level for each program.
[21:05] <bbbbb> k1l: yes at the highest level it's still around 50% of windows level, and going over 100% in ubuntu makes it distort
[21:06] <k1l> bbbbb: then maybe the manufacturer doesnt ship linux firmware/drivers so they need to reversenegeneer that. which is not 100% like windows of course where they get the drivers.
[21:06] <marcelo> I'm the kind of person that doesn't want to see Microsoft thriving, now with that hololens thingy...
[21:07] <bbbbb> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> bbbbb  in other words: ask the hardware manufacturers to support linux
[21:07] <marcelo> 'ask'
[21:10] <bbbbb> MonkeyDust: it appears to be under the certified systems of ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/8086%3A1e20/ , maybe there's more to it, a fix etc.?
[21:14] <bbbbb> anybody have experience with this? http://tuxdiary.com/2013/08/07/fix-low-volume/
[21:15] <k1l> bbbbb: open "alsamixer" in terminal and adjust the volumes?
[21:16] <bbbbb> k1l: let me try alsa
[21:17] <bbbbb> k1l: it's the same, i set it to 100% but it makes no difference
[21:18] <Jordan_U> bbbbb: Which mixer channel did you set to 100%? What mixer channels are listed?
[21:18] <bbbbb> Master
[21:18] <k1l> bbbbb: i have the same onboard audio and it works.
[21:18] <k1l> dont go up with master that high.
[21:19] <Jordan_U> bbbbb: Only one channel was listed?
[21:19] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: Master Headphone Speaker PCM ..
[21:19] <k1l> i have master at 12, headphone and pcm at 100.
[21:19] <jasonfungsing> anyone tried to install ubuntu on MS surface pro 3?
[21:19] <k1l> like i said make sure the programs in the sound settings are not too low.
[21:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> is that anything like trying to install a honda b16a into a ferrari?
[21:20] <Jordan_U> bbbbb: What are the levels of headphone, speaker, and PCM?
[21:20] <bbbbb> k1l: in sound settings the music player is set to 100%
[21:20] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: 100 100 100
[21:21] <Ziber> I have a file that's space delimited that I'm using awk to pull stuff out of. One of the fields is quoted. And it's more than one words in quotes. How would I deal with that field?
[21:21] <Jordan_U> bbbbb: Did you scroll to the right to ensure that there weren't any mixer channels beyone those 4?
[21:22] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: yes there are channels Mic Mic Boost S/PDIF Beep Auto Mut ( Enabled) Internal Loopback ( Disabled )
[21:24] <Jordan_U> bbbbb: Please put quotes around all of the multi word channel names, or commas to delimite then, to be more clear.
[21:25] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: yes there are channels "Mic" "Mic Boost" "S/PDIF" "Beep" "Auto Mut" ( Enabled) "Internal" "Loopback" ( Disabled )
[21:26] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: it also says Chip: Intel PantherPoint HDMI
[21:27] <Jordan_U> bbbbb: Are you using HDMI audio?
[21:28] <bbbbb> not that i know of, just regular mp3's
[21:28] <niko> /60
[21:28] <daftykins> this is the part we learn we're plugged into a TV
[21:28] <daftykins> ;)
[21:28] <bbbbb> daftykins: it was plugged in earlier, but it's always low on the volume
[21:29] <daftykins> you might want to reboot, sounds like it's stuck on the wrong device. or select the right device in settings / the mixer
[21:29] <Jordan_U> bbbbb: I'm not asking about what applications are playing. Are you connected to a monitor with built in speakers via an hdmi cable, and no other separate audio cables?
[21:30] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: no, i'm not
[21:30] <bbbbb> daftykins: it's always low on the volume, fresh reboots too
[21:30] <Jordan_U> bbbbb: OK. How are your speakers connected to your computer?
[21:30] <bbbbb> it's the laptop's speakers, dolby advanced audio
[21:31] <daftykins> that's just a marketing label.
[21:31] <bbbbb> oh, ok :D
[21:32] <DarthShader2> hey guys, need help with setting up a fresh kubuntu box. I have an nvidia gtx 750 with latest drivers, driving 2 monitors.
[21:33] <daftykins> DarthShader2: what's the problem then?
[21:33] <DarthShader2> The first monitor, a 1080p panel, is working fine. The 1440p Catleap is "not working"(tm)
[21:33] <daftykins> what cable type is being used with it?
[21:33] <DarthShader2> DVI-D
[21:33] <daftykins> and what does "not working" mean?
[21:33] <daftykins> wrong resolution or nothing at all?
[21:33] <DarthShader2> Setup known to work under Windows, btw.
[21:33] <DarthShader2> Nothing at all.
[21:34] <daftykins> dual link cable?
[21:34] <DarthShader2> In nvidia-settings, it's supposed to be driven at 800x600
[21:34] <DarthShader2> Yes, dual-link.
[21:34] <daftykins> what driver are you using? version # wise
[21:34] <DarthShader2> 340
[21:34] <daftykins> manual website download?
[21:34] <DarthShader2> Nope, got it from a repo, let me find which one.
[21:34] <daftykins> DarthShader2: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:34] <daftykins> xorg edgers probably.
[21:35] <daftykins> doesn't matter
[21:35] <DarthShader2> yep, that's the one
[21:35] <Jordan_U> bbbbb: Try disabling "auto mut". (though to be honest, I don't know what that feature is supposed to do).
[21:35] <DarthShader2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9825201/
[21:36] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: no dice
[21:36] <daftykins> DarthShader2: which display is the NEC?
[21:36] <DarthShader2> That's the 1080p one.
[21:37] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: can i revert any effects of running this script http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa.git;a=blob_plain;f=hda-analyzer/run.py
[21:37] <daftykins> figured, ok apparently your other one is giving a false EDID
[21:37] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: it says to run as root, and mentions 'critical unforseen issues'
[21:37] <DarthShader2> daftykins: The catleap doesn't have much in terms of brains; it was labeled "DUAL-DVI" under windows
[21:38] <daftykins> DarthShader2: some cheap korean job?
[21:38] <DarthShader2> daftykins: yep.
[21:39] <DarthShader2> daftykins Also happened to be the only 120Hz-capable 1440p IPS at time of purchase.
[21:39] <daftykins> DarthShader2: if you're reading along with the log file yourself, you can see it's very unhappy with that display
[21:39] <daftykins> DarthShader2: what input cable types does it support? only DVI?
[21:39] <DarthShader2> daftykins: yes, only DVI
[21:39] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: i've added the option to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as per site instructions
[21:39] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: can i load it without restarting?
[21:41] <daftykins> DarthShader2: how is the NEC connected?
[21:41] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: let me try restarting
[21:41] <DarthShader2> daftykins: Also DVI.
[21:42] <daftykins> DarthShader2: alright, have you at any point tried booting with just the catleap plugged into either of those on its' own? so leave the NEC off
[21:42] <DarthShader2> daftykins: I can try, but haven't yet.
[21:42] <themapplz> hey can someone tell me how i can make it so i can ssh to server.domain.com on my lan?
[21:42] <daftykins> DarthShader2: ok give it a whirl
[21:42] <DarthShader2> daftykins: Sure. Will be back in a moment.
[21:42] <daftykins> themapplz: instead of by IP?
[21:42] <themapplz> i have to write the lan ip
[21:42] <themapplz> yes
[21:43] <daftykins> themapplz: either fix your DNS, or edit your hosts file to point to that IP.
[21:43] <daftykins> but it may break things using a LAN IP :D
[21:43] <themapplz> it works fine from outside but i want my full.domain.com to work inside my lan as well
[21:43] <daftykins> when behind NAT it's safer to just deal with it
[21:44] <daftykins> yeah that sounds like your router's fault, probably.
[21:44] <themapplz> hmm
[21:44] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: daftykins it still says panther HDMI after rebooting, could that be it?
[21:44] <themapplz> yeah so i have to configure my router to route full.domain.com internally?
[21:45] <daftykins> no.
[21:45] <daftykins> make up a nickname and add it to your hosts file so that "nickname" = LAN IP
[21:45] <themapplz> ah ok
[21:46] <daftykins> just don't use the hostname else it'll break things :>
[21:47] <themapplz> but in my config file, can i have multiple HostNames for 1 Host ?
[21:49] <daftykins> themapplz: why?
[21:50] <DarthShader2> daftykins: No dice. When booting, the BIOS and then the KUBUNTU logo showed up, but then the screen went black. I waited for a few minutes to make sure. When shutting down, the screen flashed some text before powering off with the PC.
[21:50] <daftykins> DarthShader2: for both DVI ports? is the DVI cable for that one noticably thicker than for the other display?
[21:52] <DarthShader2> daftykins: I unplugged unplugging the 1080p NEC, so no. I'm using the thickest DVI cable I have for the Catleap, because otherwise it glitches and won't go above 90Hz (under Windows).
[21:52] <DarthShader2> *tried unplugged
[21:52] <daftykins> what do you mean no?
[21:53] <Noah___> How do I find my encryption key for my home folder. I accidentally closed the window that would have given me the key.
[21:53] <daftykins> DarthShader2: so you didn't try the catleap on both ports?
[21:53] <DarthShader2> "for both DVI ports?"
 The other port is known to sometimes glitch a little with the catleap, but I can try.
[21:55] <DarthShader2> Should I?
[21:55] <bbbbb> can someone help me out with this error? http://pastebin.com/Bx82fJQW
[21:56] <bbbbb> this is what i'm trying to run http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa.git;a=blob_plain;f=hda-analyzer/hda_analyzer.py
[21:56] <daftykins> DarthShader2: it'd be good for the sake of completeness, after that you can play with xrandr to see if it reads anything from it, as per http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
 xrandr says it supports 800x600 only
[21:58] <daftykins> DarthShader2: check this out - http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club/2110#post_16887233
[21:59] <daftykins> DarthShader2: have just the catleap connected then try that config, if it works out you can adapt it to allow your other display too.
[22:00] <skirlet> hey all! can someone tell me how to load music (mp3s or whatnot) to my android. i am running ubuntu 14
[22:00] <DarthShader2> daftykins: thanks, will try
[22:00] <skirlet> thank you!!!!!!!
[22:00] <noah_> how do I find the encryption key to my home folder (asking again because I got disconnected)
[22:00] <k1l> skirlet: connect with usb cable and open the filemanager nautilus?
[22:01] <DarthShader2> daftykins: is it normal that I don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[22:01] <skirlet> thank you! and like where do i put it on the droid? and what music app plays it??
[22:02] <daftykins> DarthShader2: yes
[22:02] <jhutchins> noah_: You don't.  That's the whole point of encryption.
[22:02] <k1l> skirlet: put it in folders as you want. for android apps better ask in #android
[22:02] <skirlet> ahhhhh
[22:02] <jbouron> skirlet: depends on your phone I think
[22:02] <noah_> jhutchins: but I never set it up I think it gave me a random one
[22:02] <skirlet> k thanks!! i'll keep on it!
[22:04] <daftykins> DarthShader2: more on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2038997
[22:05] <noah_> jhutchins: hello?
[22:06] <jhutchins> noah_: If there were a way to recover the key then anybody could "recover" it and the encryption wouldn't be worth while.
[22:07] <noah_> jhutchins: then what command did it run at the beginning? I set this up before and it said "we gave you a random key. enter your password to see it." I did. I had to set it up again and accidentally closed that window this time.
[22:07] <bbbbb> noah_: i think there's a way to unwrap the passphrase or something if you type your user's password, look on google for it
[22:08] <noah_> bbbbb: um... yeah. that's why i'm here. I have tried google.
[22:11] <crocmax> ciao
[22:12] <crocmax> *list
[22:12] <crocmax> !list
[22:15] <bbbbb> noah_: sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /path/to/dir
[22:16] <bbbbb> noah_: it will ask if you know your user's login say yes
[22:16] <DarthShader2> daftykins: just got both of my monitors working. Just one question, why is everything (e.g. text in my IRC client and taskbar) so tiny now?
[22:16] <bbbbb> noah_: for reference http://askubuntu.com/questions/120206/encrypted-home-forgotten-password-but-no-passphrase
[22:16] <DarthShader2> daftykins: BTW thanks for helping!
[22:16] <noah_> bbbbb: tried that. I realize now it's the mount passphrase i'm missing
[22:17] <bbbbb> noah_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Mount_Passphrase
[22:17] <bbbbb> noah_: i know, but using that you can recover your encrypted dir with the user's password without the mount passphrase
[22:17] <daftykins> DarthShader2: DPI most likely. if you run... actually i don't have a clue what controls there are in kubuntu, but since you have two displays i'm not sure how changing that will cope with two different screens
[22:18] <noah_> bbbbb: tried that. got Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed [-5]
[22:18] <bbbbb> then get your files, anyways check the second link it should have info about recovering the mount passphrase
[22:18] <daftykins> DarthShader2: no problem, note that i found those results by googling your display brand though.
[22:18] <DarthShader2> daftykins: I'm fine with one DPI for both screens, as long as the text is big enough. Will try looking for it.
[22:19] <noah_> bbbbb: tried that. got Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed [-5]
[22:20] <bbbbb> noah_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed
[22:24] <jhutchins> bbbbb: I'm seeing a pattern here...
[22:24] <DarthShader2> daftykins: figured out DPI, it was in "application appearance". Thanks again for the help.
[22:24] <daftykins> np!
[22:24] <jbouron> Does anyone knows why I can't change my mouse sensitivity ? Xubuntu 10.14
[22:25] <jbouron> Max or Min sens. are the same.
[22:25] <Ben64> jbouron: there is no 10.14, type "lsb_release -d" on the terminal and tell us the output
[22:25] <noah_> jhutchins: bbbbb it appears, somehow, wrapped-pasphrase was deleted. Oh well. hopefully I'll never have recover the data.
[22:26] <jbouron> Ben64: 14.10 sorry
[22:26] <jbouron> littlebit tired tonight ^^
[22:27] <DarthShader2> daftykins: I know this is probably going to be asking a lot, but do you have any idea on how to make the xorg.conf only be "valid" when my catleap is detected? I'm running kubuntu from a USB stick.
[22:28] <daftykins> DarthShader2: hot pluggable when you attach it only sometimes? not gonna happen :)
[22:28] <DarthShader2> daftykins: Ah okay then.
[22:29] <bbbbb> it appears that installing paman allows the volume to be increased without much distortion, but it's still feels like the dark ages compared to windows
[22:29] <daftykins> you'd have to substitute the xorg.conf and restart X each time
[22:30] <bbbbb> it says alsa is controlling the sound, is pulse better?
[22:31] <Jordan_U> bbbbb: pulseaudio runs on top of alsa.
[22:38] <bbbbb> Jordan_U: is there anything other than alsa i can try?
[22:39] <daftykins> you should be on pulse as default if it's normal ubuntu
[22:39] <TrivialGravitas> I'm having trouble installing wine due to a conflict with nvidia drivers
[22:40] <TrivialGravitas> nvidia-libopencl1-331 conflicts with libopencli, which WINE insists on
[22:40] <bparker> I always have lots of problems with pulse audio and hdmi devices so I usually have to uninstall it
[22:40] <TrivialGravitas> I assume WINE will work with the Nvidia compatible version, but can't get it to install that way
[22:41] <daftykins> TrivialGravitas: i've seen tonnes of articles online purely in passing, explaining how to avoid these conflicts
[22:41] <daftykins> may be worth looking at some
[22:41] <bparker> TrivialGravitas: I'm using wine with nvidia-331
[22:41] <TrivialGravitas> bparker: the problem is just getting the package manager to do it
[22:42] <bbbbb> bparker: are you suggesting i remove pulse? and the volume might increase, i'm using laptop speakers
[22:43] <TrivialGravitas> nevermind, the problem is Aptitude has gone to seed, Apt works fine
[22:43] <daftykins> yeah aptitude isn't recommended.
[22:43] <bparker> TrivialGravitas: libopencl1 isn't even a package
[22:44] <bparker> there is only ocl-icd-libopencl1 and nvidia-libopencl1-331
[22:44] <TrivialGravitas> I've been using Aptitude for 7 years :(
[22:44] <bbbbb> bparker: how are you removing pulse? it asks to remove others as well
[22:44] <daftykins> removing pulse isn't the wisest of moves :P
[22:44] <TrivialGravitas> was working great in 12.04, but I guess bit rot has taken hold as apt got better
[22:45] <bparker> I haven't used aptitude in about 15 years
[22:45] <NegativeFlare> If you're having trouble using programs that want direct access to /dev/dsp, use padsp or pasuspender
[22:45] <TrivialGravitas> I've usually ripped pulse out as soon as I fresh install, this is the first time it hasn't caused problems.
[22:45] <bparker> bbbbb: apt-get remove pulseaudio IIRC
[22:45] <bparker> not that I recommend it.
[22:45] <bbbbb> how do i remove it?
[22:46] <bparker> because I have no idea what other issues it might cause
[22:46] <bparker> but EWORKSFORME
[22:46] <bparker> not that I do much with my system
[22:46] <bbbbb> it says indicator-sound and others will also be removed, including ubuntu-desktop
[22:46] <bbbbb> *shrugs*
[22:46] <bparker> bbbbb: I don't have ubuntu-desktop installed, but I have xubuntu-desktop installed
[22:46] <k1l> removing pulseaudio is not an easy solution.
[22:47] <bparker> k1l: give several reasons why </philip j fry>
[22:48] <k1l> bparker: the whole (gnome) desktop set on pulseaudio. and besides its stage last years when it was really rubbish and more of a alpha stage its very settled now and is meant to "just work"
[22:49] <bbbbb> ok, i removed it
[22:52] <Faryshta> hi, if i a add .css files onthe AppAsset::$css array, it should include the files on the layout?
[22:53] <daftykins> Faryshta: not a dev channel :)
[22:56] <bbbbb> nope, no dice
[22:58] <k1l> bbbbb:  removing pulseaudio is not a good solution, imho. i think your windows has some equalizer settings inside the drivers to make the build-in speakers sound "better"
[22:59] <bbbbb> k1l: it's not only better, it's way way louder and clean too
[23:00] <k1l> like i said, i think its a drivers/firmware thing. you could search for your exact laptop model if its a known issue and what people did then
[23:02] <bbbbb> k1l: ok, thanks.
[23:05] <bbbbb> is there any way to have anything i add in modprobe.d take effect without restarting?
[23:07] <daftykins> sudo modprobe module_name_here
[23:08] <bbbbb> any idea what name i should use for alsa?
[23:10] <daftykins> no and i'm not really into audio setups so can't help you there
[23:11] <bbbbb> no problem, thanks anyways
[23:11] <bbbbb> this seems to do the job /sbin/alsa force-reload , i'm trying some options fingers crossed
[23:12] <bbbbb> it seems hp laptops have a history of low volume on ubuntu and people update the bios sometimes, the docs are pretty outdated so i dont know if it still applies though
[23:13] <jb0nd38372> Anyone here running Ubuntu on a motherboard with an AMD chipset? Preferably with the SB900 chipset.
[23:13] <daftykins> might be better to just say what's going on, jb0nd38372 - that's about as specific as you can get :P
[23:14] <jb0nd38372> daftykins, Not a good idea to start off with a specific question?
[23:15] <daftykins> that wasn't really a support question :)
[23:15] <daftykins> the likelihood fo someone running that hardware is really low
[23:17] <jb0nd38372> daftykins, well I guess I can rephrase it then. I was just trying to find a specific type of person with that chipset since nobody else could help since my problem is confined to that chipset
[23:18] <daftykins> why don't you say what's going on?
[23:20] <ki7rw> this aideinit sure takes a long time to do its thing
[23:23] <welly> Hello all. Having strange things occurring when creating a symbolic link. if I do (as an admin user) ln -nfs /home/test/production/releases/2015-01-23 /home/test/public_html it works fine however running su - test -c "ln -nfs /home/test/production/releases/2015-01-23 /home/test/public_html" to create the symbolic link as a user results in a directory public_html being created and the symbolic link underneath it. It's really odd
[23:24] <bparker> welly: probably because /home/test/public_html already existed when you ran as the test user, so it traversed the directory/symlink and created the link inside there
[23:24] <welly> bparker, no doesn't exist. I've deleted it first
[23:25] <welly> this is the strangest thing because it was working yesterday
[23:26] <bparker> strange
[23:26] <bparker> never heard of that
[23:26] <welly> although I did make a change to how my site was being deployed in jenkins, the actual deploy script hasn't changed much at all
[23:26] <welly> yeah, likewise. it's weird
[23:27] <welly> hmm.. alright when I get the script to run it as the admin user, it's creating the directory and not a symbolic link.
[23:27] <welly> i am stumped by this
[23:28] <jb0nd38372> I'm running 2 Corsair SSD's currently in Windows 7, Raid 0 and getting 900/mb read - 750mb write performance. I want to install ubuntu to that Raid setup that has been configured in bios. Grub will not install even though the rest of the install completes without problems. Any idea why?
[23:28] <bekks> jb0nd38372: Which hardware raid controller do you use?
[23:28] <bparker> define 'will not install'
[23:29] <jb0nd38372> bekks, Just the motherboard's BIOS program to configure the raid setup, the MB is an Asus M5a97 r2.0 (Chipset AMD SB9500)
[23:29] <victor_> hi everyone
[23:30] <jb0nd38372> bekks, or rather the program that loads right after the bios post (Contrl - H) enters the program
[23:30] <bparker> hi
[23:31] <victor_> so... what are people talking about here
[23:31] <compdoc> you
[23:31] <bekks> jb0nd38372: That controller is a software raid controller. You cannot use it as a hardware raid controller.
[23:31] <k1l> victor_: technical ubuntu support. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[23:31] <jb0nd38372> bekks, so I need to destroy the raid in bios and DMRaid in ubuntu?
[23:32] <bekks> jb0nd38372: Correct.
[23:32] <victor_> okay 'linux'
[23:32] <jb0nd38372> bekks, you think i'll still see the increased performance i'm seeing now?
[23:33] <bekks> jb0nd38372: I havent used AMD chipsets for a decade, myself. I cant tell you anything about performance, just about technical facts :)
[23:33] <bekks> jb0nd38372: And that "increased performance" heavily depends on the method used for measureing.
[23:34] <jb0nd38372> bekks, well thank you anyway. My primary reason is for the speed increase more than having the space consolidated. I guess the only way to tell is to do it. Can you recommend any good disk benchmarking software I can test with?
[23:36] <bekks> jb0nd38372: I recommend a strong knowledge on how disk benchmarks works, for using and interpreting dd, iostat, bonnie, bonnie++, vdbench, iometer, and all the other tools out there.
[23:37] <bbbbb> does anybody have any experience using nautilus-actions-config-tool ? i'm trying to add a shortcut that adds and plays a song with no luck yet
[23:37] <bekks> jb0nd38372: Basically: there is no single benchmark that can be "just used" and will return valuable results.
[23:37] <victor_> no no single idea
[23:38] <bekks> victor_: single idea on what?
[23:38] <kaste> Hi I am trying to develop something with ncursesw and while I have all the libraries and headers I don't seem to have manpages. What am I doing wrong? I can't find a package that contains the man pages.
[23:44] <kaste> nvm I found it
[23:45] <welly> I bet there is something weird about this bloody cpanel that is causing this. It keeps creating a public_html, public_html/cgi-bin folder
[23:46] <bbbbb> welly: if you dont use su - it will work
[23:46] <bbbbb> it's probably cause it's using a login shell it's running some scripts
[23:46] <welly> ah right
[23:46] <welly> yeah
[23:46] <NForystek> anybody know the update resource location line for the older version 3 of MonoDevelop for Ubuntu software packages?  I found it originally at http://www.monodevelop.com/ originally, in a browser it was just a graphic for the whole page, nothing else...
[23:46] <welly> probably
[23:46] <NForystek> plz msg me
[23:46] <welly> stupid cpanel
[23:47] <NForystek> no I'm seriouz, originally
[23:49] <NForystek> I achieved photographic equality in namespaces controls and forms in a start new project template for .NET framework 2.0 and SharpDevelop in XP and Xubuntu
[23:50] <NForystek> it's sharpdevelop that requires .NET framework 4.0, but I could just drop it over and open it and compile it the same vs versa..
[23:51] <NForystek> oh, and it didn't require command lines to get it as a icon to install from the software package browser, I'm not huge in linux
[23:52] <Jordan_U> jb0nd38372: 1: While you *can* install Ubuntu on top of FakeRAID, I agree with bekks in that you shouldn't. Both FakeRAID and linux software RAID use the CPU to handle the RAID (your "RAID hardware" doesn't have any CPU or memory, just BIOS option ROMS that only run at boot, hence the "Fake" in FakeRAID). Linux's software RAID formats are Free, and many more people have worked on their performance and stability than any ...
[23:52] <k1l> NForystek: i still dont know what you need help with for ubuntu now exactly
[23:52] <Jordan_U> ... FakeRAID code. So I would expect linux software RAID to outperform FakeRAID, in speed and stability.
[23:52] <jb0nd38372> bekks, Have you ever used HD Tune for Windows?
[23:53] <NForystek> It is a a line where you go to the software updater, you can put it in as a resource to get packages... this one specifically had a v3 of MonoDevelop
[23:53] <k1l> NForystek: so you look for a PPA for monodevelop?
[23:53] <NForystek> what's a PPA?
[23:54] <k1l> a 3rd party repository maintained by not-ubuntu to provide other packages or other package versions than the official ubuntu ones
[23:55] <k1l> NForystek: so you want monodevelop version 3 for ubuntu? for what ubuntu?
[23:55] <NForystek> yes that would be correct, and this one wasn't setup by Monodevelop.com I don't think, they linked it.. and it just put the icon to get it right in..  I need some help.
[23:56] <fiatjaf> I can't download anything from archive.ubuntu.com (nor us.archive.ubuntu.com nor br.archive. ubuntu.com). I can access these servers through the browser, but my traceroutes timeout. what is happening?
[23:56] <fiatjaf> traceroute: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9826706/
[23:57] <k1l> fiatjaf: do you use a proxy or vpn in the browser?
[23:57] <fiatjaf> k11: no, nothing
[23:57] <jb0nd38372> Jordan_U, If I don't run raid, do you have any ideas on how i might increase i/o access? on a single SSD? From what I've gathered, single drive bootup on Win7 is 22 seconds (from the time you see the initial Windows logo) running under the bios fake raid  it gets cut down to 16 seconds. I'm not doing anything that demands a 6 second increase in speed, I just like squeezing all the performance I can out of my hardware safely.
[23:58] <NForystek> I spent a day making a project between my sharpdevelop on XP and monodevelop on Xubuntu and got them to work and load in each other flawless, for a .NET 2.0 project whcih I like most because VS.net 2015 is massive stuff.. specially when I like XP better, more slap stick easy..
[23:58] <fiatjaf> I'm in brazil, but see traceroute for br.archive.ubuntu.com: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9826755/
[23:59] <NForystek> but it was like this 4th party pimp where the resource in a browser was just a full page image..
[23:59] <fiatjaf> traceroute to fr.archive.ubuntu.com: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9826762/


[18:35] <mhall119> wow! yay! http://zareason.com/shop/Invenire-1220.html
[18:46] <maxolasersquad> mhall119: ++
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[21:02] <dantalizing> nice mhall119


[03:56] <desrt> attente: home?
[11:04] <robru> Sweetshark, ping?
[16:00] <qengho> $ dmesg
[16:00] <qengho> *** glibc detected *** dmesg: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x089aa878 ***
[16:00] <qengho> Rock.
[16:03] <desrt> qengho: something funky in LD_LIBRARY_PATH or LD_PRELOAD?
[16:06] <qengho> both empty
[16:06] <qengho> Or unset, rather.


[07:01] <nova_> I installed Kubuntu updates the other day on my VMWare install and from what I can tell now VMWare tools doesn't work with kernel >3.10.  The virtual network adapter doesn't work now.  I booted to kernel 3.5, the only other version I have still, but I can recompile vmware tools without the headers.  I can't install the headers because I don't have networking.  Is there anything I can do to work my way out of this situatio
[07:01] <nova_> n and at least salvage some files if nothing else?
[07:02] <nova_> I asked in the regular support channel and waited a day but no one has responded at all.
[10:12] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:56] <shadeslayer_> yofel: entirely possible that I missed a thing or two in 2
[21:05] <valorie> o/ from home
[21:06] <valorie> dropped Scarlett to the train station a couple of hours ago; she should be nearly home
[21:06] <valorie> she didn't have time to fix my testing laptop though :(
[21:07] <valorie> Akademy was so great, and meeting with all the Kub. folks