[00:02] <directhex> where's the right place to moan if a package hasn't been correctly added to the archive?
[00:16] <nhandler> Is it ok to fix a bug in a package when you are doing a merge?
[00:23] <directhex> if it's a bug in the debian package, then you should try to get the bug fixed by the DD behind it
[00:24] <directhex> generally speaking though, differences between the debian package and ubuntu packages (like bugs, really) would be the point in merges versus a sync
[00:25] <nhandler> directhex, the package already needs a merge. I'm just wondering if it is ok to fix an additional bug at the same time
[01:32] <ryanakca> Should I create a knmap-base to fix "I: knmap: arch-dep-package-has-big-usr-share 1596kB 82%" ? http://paste.debian.net/5703/ lists the files in knmap
[04:40] <LaserJock> cody-somerville, ScottK2 : congrats on MOTU SRU, good luck.
[04:40] <cody-somerville> LaserJock, thank you :)
[04:41] <crimsun> yay, finally I get to subscribe the sponsors and let someone else upload
[04:41] <crimsun> or ignore, but that's no longer my prerogative ;)
[04:41] <LaserJock> crimsun: you expired?
[04:41] <crimsun> yep, completely.
[04:42] <LaserJock> crimsun: hmm, congrats, if that makes any sense
[04:42] <crimsun> yeah, it doesn't really change anything.
[04:42] <LaserJock> I was too chicken to expire from everything
[04:43] <LaserJock> I'm hanging onto my hard-won upload rights for now ;-)
[04:44] <crimsun> :-)
[04:44] <cody-somerville> wow....
[04:44] <cody-somerville> did devel-discuss explode this evening?
[04:45] <LaserJock> hehe
[04:45] <LaserJock> welcome to a "Poisonous People" test case
[04:46] <ScottK2> LaserJock: I'm not sure congratulations is the right sentiment, but thanks.  It'll be "Fun".
[04:47] <LaserJock> ScottK2: it's really not bad
[04:47] <LaserJock> hopefully my script on qa.ubuntuwire.com/sru will help you guys
[04:47] <ScottK2> LaserJock: I looked at it and it does look like it's much better than looking at a stack of subscribed bugs.  Thanks.
[04:48] <crimsun> mmm, mailing list spam
[04:58]  * ScottK-laptop cheers for the power outage being over ...
[05:12] <crimsun> those storms hit bge?
[05:15] <ScottK-laptop> Yes.  There was a line down several blocks from here that I know from experience feeds our neighborhood.
[05:16] <crimsun> urg
[05:17] <ScottK-laptop> Yes.  When the power line is laying on the street, the odds of the lights coming back on real soon are low.  As it was, I think were were out for ~3 hours, which isn't bad considering what it was.
[05:18] <crimsun> still, pretty bad given the current weather
[05:18] <crimsun> not looking forward to the next couple days
[05:36] <chillywilly> what handles automounting things in gnome for ubuntu?
[05:37] <chillywilly> why do my IDE drives show up as scsi devices?
[05:38] <ScottK> chillywilly: This isn't a support channel, but the answer is that what you're thinking means it's a scsi device doesn't mean that at all.
[05:39] <chillywilly> I know this is not a support channel but ubuntu does things differently than anything a stock debian system does and frankly I have no idea how it does things anymore ;P
[05:39] <chillywilly> so I was curious
[05:40] <crimsun> chillywilly: libata.  The conversion began some releases ago.
[05:40] <chillywilly> ok
[05:40] <chillywilly> that explains it then
[05:40] <chillywilly> I knew it was some other subsystem that debian must not be using
[06:02] <ScottK> chillywilly: It's a standard Linux kernel thing.  If Debian isn't doing it, they're the ones that are non-standard (I'm sure Lenny has this too).
[06:03] <chillywilly> just not used to dealing with the "new" way...I'm a little behind the times I guess
[08:22]  * siretart admires ScottK's enegy to actually read and followup to u-d-discuss
[08:55]  * wgrant is disappointed at -devel-discuss' disintegration.
[09:18] <siretart> true
[09:44] <Burgundavia> siretart: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-February/msg00129.html
[09:44] <Burgundavia> same gut
[09:44] <Burgundavia> guy, rather
[09:45] <RAOF> Was that the one which ended with "I've got a textbox, so I'm pretty much done for a note-taking-app?"
[09:45] <RAOF> Heh, yes it was.
[09:45] <wgrant> Burgundavia: That's on -devel-discuss now as well.
[09:47] <Burgundavia> yep
[09:47] <Burgundavia> personally, I am not really keen on people taking Ubuntu and adding non-free software, but then again, dell is doing it
[09:48] <wgrant> Right, and the Netbook Remix seems to be a very directed, OEM-restricted, embedded version.
[09:49] <wgrant> And it's not part of Ubuntu, so the complaints about non-free stuff in Ubuntu are completely wrong.
[09:50] <wgrant> My main gripe is the lack of a freely encoded copy of that video, and that's pretty minor.
[09:50] <Burgundavia> that is not something that only Canonical is guilty of doing
[09:50] <Burgundavia> in fact, we in the FOSS community are really bad about not providing OGG theora
[09:51] <siretart> Burgundavia: "I've never written a program before so I also need some help. Also I need a place to put it on the web."
[09:51] <Burgundavia> ah, yes, classic
[09:51] <siretart> Burgundavia: that guy is cute..
[09:51] <wgrant> siretart: It's a great thread.
[09:51] <wgrant> I've read most of it.
[09:52] <siretart> I hope I didn't
[09:52] <wgrant> Paraphrasing one of the replies to the "I've got a textbox" bit: "Yes, that's like 5 lines of Python"
[09:53] <Burgundavia> I could write that
[09:54] <Burgundavia> codecs are such a nasty little bit of work, because it is such a massive catch 22
[09:54] <wgrant> They are nasty, but why is it a catch 22?
[09:56] <Burgundavia> if you add them, you basically need to have binary-only, ala fluendo
[09:56] <Burgundavia> which is non-free
[09:56] <Burgundavia> if you don't, you lose functionality
[09:56] <Burgundavia> to me, as long as the iso somebody downloads is mostly free, that is fine. Pre-installed stsuff is a different ball of wax
[09:57] <Treenaks> Isn't that what the automagic codec installer thing is supposed to handle?
[09:58] <Burgundavia> doesn't solve the dvd issue, and sort of
[09:58] <wgrant> The correct solution is to dispose of the patents and/or use free formats... but the former is hard.
[09:58] <Burgundavia> the licensed fluendo codecs have access to teh specs, and thus are actually good
[09:59] <Treenaks> Burgundavia: except that they're sometimes written by morons, so IPv6 + Fluendo MMS bits = no worky
[09:59] <Burgundavia> I cannot help that occasionally people screw up
[09:59] <Treenaks> (s/morons/people who aren't up to date on ipv6 bits/)
[10:01] <Burgundavia> there is a lot of free stuff that likely doesn't handle ipv6 very well
[10:01] <Treenaks> Burgundavia: yes, but I can fix those
[10:01] <Treenaks> Burgundavia: usually
[10:01] <Burgundavia> yes, the fluendo codecs, like all non-free software, cannot be fixed by people like you
[10:02] <Burgundavia> ETHISISNOTASHOCK
[10:02] <Treenaks> Burgundavia: I know it's well-known, that doesn't make it good :)
[10:02] <directhex> where's the right place to moan if a package hasn't been correctly added to the archive?
[10:02] <Treenaks> s/good/a good thing
[10:02] <wgrant> directhex: 'correctly'?
[10:03] <directhex> wgrant, a missing architecture
[10:03] <wgrant> directhex: Meaning it hasn't built yet?
[10:04] <directhex> wgrant, it's built, as per https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono/1.9.1+dfsg-1ubuntu1/+build/627107
[10:04] <wgrant> Architectures don't go missing unless they are simply waiting to be built, or there is a problem with the package on that architecture.
[10:04] <wgrant> directhex: Looks like it's probably in NEW, but I'll check.
[10:05] <wgrant> Yeah, look at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono/1.9.1+dfsg-1ubuntu1
[10:05] <wgrant> #   intrepid i386   Successfully built  (NEW)
[10:06] <directhex> wgrant, it's causing failed builds for mono-dependent packages on non-x86 arches
[10:06] <wgrant> directhex: Right, they'll need to be given-back afterwards.
[10:06] <wgrant> This is perfectly normal behaviour.
[10:14] <directhex> hm, it might not be the first time this kind of behaviour's happened, but it causes very odd behaviour for one arch to act differently to others, due to treating all the arch-indep stuff (which is where the NEW stuff will have appeared) the same as the arch-specific stuff.
[10:15] <wgrant> directhex: It's not odd behaviour. It's well-known, fairly common, easily recognisable behaviour
[10:16] <wgrant> Odd behaviour is when the same sort of thing happens, but due to Soyuz eating binaries. Which is less common.
[11:30] <Nightrose> ~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[A
[11:30] <Nightrose> sorry
[12:47] <Lantash> [Question] I'm currently working on the distribution mechanisms of the application LottaNZB I contribute to. Both the setup.py and the deb package installation work almost perfectly now, but there's one thing I don't figure out:
[12:47] <Lantash> The installation of the MIME icon. Currently our MIME icons are installed into /usr/share/icons/hicolor/*/mimetypes/application-x-nzb.png. 'gtk-update-icon-cache -q -f -t /usr/share/icons/hicolor' is run after the installation. Now the problem: All applications (such as Firefox and the file browser of LottaNZB) except Nautilus seem to use this icon for NZB files. Installling the icon to /usr/share/icons/gnome did the trick but I gue
[12:47] <Lantash> Thanks in advance!
[14:15] <rzr> Jazzva: ok got your email :)
[14:17] <Jazzva> rzr: Cool. Sorry for that :)
[14:17] <rzr> no pb
[14:18] <rzr> was my sf.net email bouncing ?
[14:18] <Jazzva> I don't think so, since you received the e-mail :)
[14:18] <rzr> ok
[14:18] <rzr> because most I use this email in most of my debian work
[14:19] <rzr> and i know sf is not reliable at all
[14:20] <Jazzva> It worked this time ;)
[14:30] <w-h-s> can I include font files that come from the same website but in different licenses in same package?
[14:32] <RainCT> w-h-s: yes, but you have to list all licenses in debian/copyright
[14:32] <w-h-s> RainCT# thanks
[14:33] <RainCT> yw
[15:00] <Lantash> Doesn't anyone know an answer to my problem I explained about two hours ago in this channel?
[15:00] <Lantash> http://pastie.org/211041
[15:00] <Lantash> I'd be grateful!
[17:33] <devfil> a MOTU can sponsor a sync?
[19:25] <nhandler> Hello nxvl
[19:26] <nhandler> Hello zachs
[19:26] <zachs> hey...
[19:27] <amikrop> So, are these instructions working? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm
[19:30] <nhandler> I know that you should normally wait until your sponsors think you are read before applying to become a MOTU. However, when should you apply to be an Ubuntu Contributing Developer?
[19:35] <amarillion> Hey, I'm trying to create multiple pbuilders according to the guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[19:35] <amarillion> But it's not working. For some reason it's ignoring my .pbuilderrc
[19:35] <amarillion> For example, if I do
[19:36] <amarillion> DIST=blah sudo pbuilder create
[19:36] <amarillion> it works normally, but I expect it to print         "Unknown distribution: blah"
[19:36] <amarillion> any ideas?
[19:42] <Kopfgeldjaeger> try to put your stuff in /etc/pbuilderrc
[19:47] <amarillion> Kopfgeldjaeger, no luck, it's still ignoring it
[19:49] <amarillion> I'll send an email to the list
[20:05] <amarillion> OK this is weird.
[20:05] <amarillion> When I run /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-loadconfig directly, it works
[20:06] <amarillion> but not if I run it indirectly through pbuilder
[20:31]  * nhandler is away: BRB
[20:32]  * nhandler is away: BRB
[20:38] <amikrop> Are there any similar instructions for Intrepid (or even for Hardy)? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm
[20:45] <nhandler> So, does anyone here have an answer to the question I asked earlier about when a persion should apply to be an Ubuntu Contributing Developer?
[20:47] <RainCT> nhandler: basically when you feel that you are ready and/or some MOTUs recommend you to do so
[20:48] <nhandler> RainCT, from my understanding, an Ubuntu Contributing Developer is pretty much the same as an Ubuntu Member. Do they gain any new privileges? If not, what do you need to be ready for?
[20:49] <RainCT> nhandler: some visible contributions that you can show and other people that will speak in favour of you
[20:49] <RainCT> basically
[20:50] <RainCT> nhandler: and no, beside the privilegies that Ubuntu Membership gives (@ubuntu.com e-mail redirect, possibility to be on planet.ubuntu.com and permission to print business cards)
[20:51] <RainCT> (at least not at the moment, they is/has been discussion about giving other privilegies)
[20:52] <nhandler> RainCT, so pretty much, as long as you have contributed, and have people that will speak in favor of you, you should apply?
[20:54] <RainCT> yeh
[22:36] <jono> Hobbsee: ping
[22:42]  * nhandler is away: Away


[12:59] <pavlushka> Hey Naeil, how is it going?
[13:00] <Naeil> o/ pavlushka fine ty what about you?
[13:01] <pavlushka> I am good Naeil :)
[13:02] <Naeil> cool! :D


[07:29] <sakhi_> mooning
[07:45]  * nlsthzn-work waves
[07:49] <superfly> hi all
[07:51] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: hey
[08:42] <DraZoro> Good morning everyone !
[11:29] <inetpro> how do I know whether a ubuntu server needs a restart after an update?
[11:39] <nlsthzn-work> inetpro: install a gui and you will see the shutdown button will be red :p
[11:39] <inetpro> nlsthzn-work: haha
[11:50] <Vhata> $ tail -n1 /etc/motd
[11:50] <Vhata> *** System restart required ***
[11:51] <inetpro> Vhata: did they have this even in 8.04 Hardy?
[11:51] <Vhata> probably not
[11:52] <Vhata> but your question isn't really a real question
[11:52] <Vhata> servers don't need restarts.
[11:52] <Vhata> you reboot a linux machine for (a) a new kernel, and (b) new hardware
[11:53] <inetpro> Vhata: hmm...
[11:53] <Vhata> so if your update installed a new kernel, and you want to start running it, then you should reboot (and you can work this out with `dpkg -l | grep linux-image` and `uname -a`)
[11:55] <drubin> inetpro:
[11:56] <inetpro> Vhata: thanks
[11:56] <inetpro> drubin: .
[11:56] <drubin> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1012637.html   and look for /var/run/reboot-required
[11:56] <drubin> inetpro: ^ sorry stupid copy and paste
[11:56] <inetpro> drubin: I just read that, thanks
[12:00] <Vhata> drubin: Ubuntu are taking all the fun out of server admin!
[12:03] <drubin> Vhata: No they are giving you time for ibid
[12:03] <drubin> ;-p
[12:09] <tumbleweed> of course /var/run might go away in a year or two. /run seems to be picking up momentum fast
[12:10] <cocooncrash> srsly?
[12:11] <tumbleweed> well, it'll probably be there by the next LTS
[12:11] <tumbleweed> /var/run makes things complicated because it isn't ready yet in initramfs / before /var is mounted
[12:14] <tumbleweed> actually what am I saying it'll still be there, but some more important bits will have switched to using /run instead
[12:28] <cocooncrash> tumbleweed: Hrm, fair enough
[12:58] <Kilos> hiya superfly and all ya other peeps
[12:58] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[12:58]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[12:58] <Kilos> nlsthzn-work, ping
[13:01] <superfly> heya Kilos
[13:01] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: pong
[13:02] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[13:02] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn-work i got my boets saudi stc modem here and wondered if you or anyone else knows how i can change the firmware to use here in sa
[13:02] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[13:02] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[13:03] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: hmmm... is it locked to the service provider?
[13:04] <Kilos> nl i dont even know how to look for that but cant get it to work here
[13:04] <Kilos> boet had it at vodacom peeps and they just said no ways and sold him another modem
[13:05] <Kilos> when i plug it in it flashes like trying to connect but thats as far as it gets
[13:05] <Kilos> maverick sees itr as a usb modem
[13:07] <Kilos> it says TCT mobile CE0700 inside and the imei number is here too
[13:09] <nlsthzn-work> is it 3G? (I have no clue how you would go about doing anything with it to be honest)
[13:14] <Kilos> something to do with flashing the sofware and installing the right stuff. but i need expert advice so i dont mess it up completely
[13:14] <Kilos> yip its 3g hsdpa
[13:14] <Kilos> must be similar to flashing a cellfone
[13:15] <Kilos> but you need the right firmware available beforehand and need to know how to do it
[13:16] <Kilos> im scared to just try on my own and maybe duff it for good
[13:17] <superfly> Kilos: did you plug it in and then type in "lsusb"?
[13:17] <Kilos> no superfly i dunno about that. can i do it with my cellphone still connected
[13:18] <Kilos> is that list usb devices
[13:19] <Kilos> in my network manager it shows as a modem but cant connect
[13:21] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: thing is you need a sim card in there with recharge on... and it has been set to use a different provider so you are right... you need to "jail" break it... I am sure there must be one of those dodgy small cell phone shops that can do it for R50.00... and seeing as your not in SaudI I guess no laws will be broken :p
[13:22] <Kilos> boet has tried local cellphone shops
[13:23] <Kilos> i am sure it can be done . i did a cellc fone when i first started but cant go googling now with data so low
[13:24] <Kilos> if i member right it was an aus company that i googled by saying unlock or unblock motorolla fone
[13:25] <Kilos> but with a fone you can type in the unblock code
[13:25] <Kilos> modem got no keyboard
[13:25] <Kilos> hehe
[13:26] <Kilos> i have tried it with this sim outa my fone but it wont connect even after setting up network manager for voda
[13:26] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: I am pretty sure it will have the same steps as flashing your PC's bios... and the same dangers :)
[13:27] <Kilos> lol yeah thats why i dont wanna try it without advice
[13:28] <Kilos> modems arent cheap
[13:29] <Cybrisbob> Afternoon ubuntu lovers
[13:29] <Kilos> lo Cybrisbob
[13:29] <superfly> Kilos: put it in, type "lsusb" and look for a device that looks like a modem if you look at the output, then take the device id (something like "0ac0:f30c") and google it
[13:29] <Cybrisbob> So where is the ubuntu natty launch party in Stellenbosch, never heard of the venue
[13:29] <Kilos> ok ty superfly  will try that. see ya later then
[13:30] <Cybrisbob> afk
[13:33] <Cybrisbob> welcome Robert
[13:34] <Cybrisbob> Ok happy easter to all enjoy the long weekend, I am off to break glusterfs
[13:34] <Cybrisbob> cheers
[13:37] <Kilos> would this be it superfly ?
[13:37] <Kilos> Bus 001 Device 017: ID 1bbb:0000 T & A Mobile Phones
[13:37] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: looks right
[13:38] <Kilos> ok now i just google the id or must i add something else as well
[13:38] <Kilos> i sukkel with googling
[13:39] <Kilos> never know what to actually google
[13:40] <nlsthzn-work> I'm not sure... I wouldn't have thought of that way to find info... I would have searched for "unlock tct ce0700" or something similar
[13:40] <Kilos> ok i will try
[13:44] <superfly> Maaz: google for usb modem 1bbb:0000
[13:44] <Maaz> superfly: "USB_ModeSwitch ~ View topic - correlation between /dev/ttyUSB* and ..." http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?t=310&sid=9847374dd024e427c3f6e01b8d928b3e :: "10.04 - How do I get a 3G USB modem to work? - Ask Ubuntu - Stack ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/3084/how-do-i-get-a-3g-usb-modem-to-work :: "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS & Alcatel x200" http://forum.sakis3g.org/smf/index.php?topic=39.0 :: "Sakis3G configuration
[13:46] <nlsthzn-work> looks like a very genericaly used device with more specialized instructions flashed to it...
[13:46] <superfly> do you really need to flash it?
[13:46] <superfly> why all the talk about flashing it?
[13:47] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: it has been locked to work on a specific network... and it needs *something* to "unlock: it... maybe the terminology is wrong...
[13:47] <nlsthzn-work> but the idea remains the same :p
[13:48] <superfly> nlsthzn-work: has it actually been locked, or is that just speculation?
[13:50] <Kilos> dunno superfly . boet tried getting it to work here but cell shops say cant be done
[13:50] <Kilos> maybe i am missing somethin
[13:51] <Kilos> it shows in lsusb and network manager but wont connect. just keeps flashing
[13:51] <superfly> Kilos: run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and watch for error messages when you try to connect
[13:52] <Kilos> ok will try that
[13:52] <Kilos> be back as soon as its done
[13:53] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: most vendors lock their devices where there is more than one supplier in the same country... either that or there is some compatibility issues with the sims maybe... but yes, I am speculating here...
[13:54] <superfly> nlsthzn-work: yeah... I'm just saying, do your investigation, don't rely on hearsay
[13:54] <superfly> and don't rely on a cellphone shop, cause they just want to make money off you ;-)
[13:55] <Kilos> yeah they already sold him another one
[13:55] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: sure... but if you see a something looking like a horse with black and white stripes chances are its a zebra ;)
[13:55] <superfly> nlsthzn-work: unless it's been painted ;-)
[13:55] <nlsthzn-work> only in south africa :p
[14:08] <Kilos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/596936/
[14:08] <Kilos> does that make sense to you superfly
 GSM modem enable failed: (32) Network personalization PIN required
[14:09] <Kilos> yeah but where you get that from superfly . boet says he didnt put a pin in
[14:10] <superfly> Kilos: it's asking for a "Network personalization PIN" - whatever that is
[14:10] <Kilos> is that the saudi network pin or a voda one
[14:11] <Kilos> i got no pin on my sim
[14:11] <superfly> Kilos: not sure, probably  the Saudi
[14:11] <Kilos> right so that is what i need to unlock then but dunno how to get into a modem
[14:13] <Kilos> i have found this. but dunno what to use
[14:13] <Kilos> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/how+to+unlock+stc+usb+modem/
[14:14] <Kilos> also another one with password stuff but dunno how to get into the modem even
[14:14] <superfly> Kilos: pffft that's just a search engine honeypot page
[14:14] <Kilos> http://www.sauditechview.com/en/stc-afaq-dsl-shamil-modem-passwords.html
[14:14] <superfly> it's mean to catch people who type the wrong thing in
[14:14] <Kilos> honeypot page??
[14:14] <Kilos> hehe
[14:15] <superfly> Kilos: yes, can you see how it's just a bunch of adverts?
[14:15] <superfly> and nothing that actually relates to what you were searching for?
[14:15] <Kilos> and the second one?
[14:15] <superfly> it killed my browser
[14:16] <Kilos> aw
[14:16] <Kilos> no adds on there but info i dunno how to use
[14:17] <Kilos> which one killed your browser superfly
[14:17] <superfly> Kilos: no, that page is about routers, not usb modems
[14:17] <Kilos> i use epiphany
[14:17] <Kilos> eish
[14:19] <superfly> Kilos: if you can see what device it is (like /dev/ttyUSB0) then you can try running wvdialconf
[14:20] <Kilos> without sudo?
[14:20] <superfly> actually, you don't even need to know the modem
[14:20] <superfly> Kilos: quite possibly
[14:21] <Kilos> is there something i need to know before i go offline and connect the modem again
[14:21] <superfly> Kilos: not that I can think of
[14:22] <Kilos> ok ty i go see whats there
[14:22] <Kilos> bbl
[14:36] <Kilos> does this help superfly
[14:36] <Kilos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/596957/
[14:37] <Kilos> it found a modem there seems like
[14:39] <Kilos> sorry to be a nuisance
[14:48] <inetpro> Kilos: /etc/wvdial.conf<Warn>: Can't write '/etc/wvdial.conf.tmp6348': Permission denied
[14:48] <inetpro> line 43
[14:48] <Kilos> hiya inetpro so must i chown the thing hehe
[14:49] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[14:49] <Kilos> how do i get it to work then ?
[14:50] <inetpro> Kilos: I didn't follow the conversation was that output from wvdialconf?
[14:50] <Kilos> yip
[14:50] <inetpro> are you a member of the dialout group?
[14:50] <Kilos> trying to get a stc modem to work in sa on vodacom
[14:50] <Kilos> who are they
[14:50] <inetpro> Kilos: groups
[14:50] <Kilos> the modem comes from saudi
[14:51] <Kilos> who are the dialout groups?
[14:52] <Kilos> i will become a member if it makes the modem work
[14:52] <inetpro> Kilos: try with sudo
[14:52] <Kilos> i am lost here this is like a doctor doing a gearbox overall on an automaitic valiant
[14:53] <Kilos> oh
[14:53] <inetpro> Kilos: google is your friend
[14:53] <Kilos> will try that and see what happens
[14:53] <inetpro> :-)
[14:53] <Kilos> google kills my data which is very low inetpro
[14:53] <Kilos> i have tried
[14:53] <inetpro> eish
[14:54] <inetpro> Kilos: why you wanting to change your modem?
[14:54] <Kilos> i googled spanne already for this but get nothing i understand
[14:55] <Kilos> i use a cell but can use the modem if i get it working here then the cell can do smses etc
[14:56] <inetpro> ahh
[14:56] <inetpro> Kilos: what is the make and model of the modem?
[14:56] <Kilos> it is a stc on the outside but tct in the inside
[14:57] <inetpro> hmm... maybe I should read above
[14:58] <Kilos> lol
[14:58] <inetpro> Kilos: sadly I can not help right now
[14:58] <Kilos> i dont mind telling you again
[14:58] <Kilos> np
[14:58] <Kilos> i will try with sudo
[14:58] <Kilos> be back later
[15:00] <nuvolari_> o/
[15:17] <eklikeubuntu> Halo?
[15:17] <eklikeubuntu> Is this a South African chat?
[15:18] <eklikeubuntu> exit
[15:19] <Kilos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/596974/
[15:19] <Kilos> looks like it be a bit happier with sudo but still wont connect
[15:19] <Kilos> grrr
[15:42] <nuvolari_> :/
[15:42] <Kilos> lo nuvolari_
[15:42] <nuvolari_> lo oom Kilos
[15:42] <Kilos> hoekom altyd die stert
[15:42] <nuvolari_> I wonder what happened :?
[15:43] <nuvolari> like so oom?
[15:43] <Kilos> thats better
[15:43] <nuvolari> :P
[15:43] <Kilos> what you know about getting a tct usb modem to work
[15:43] <nuvolari> tct?
[15:44] <Kilos> comes from saudi and i cant get it to work with vodacom
[15:44] <Kilos> yeah modem make tct and service provider is stc
[15:44] <nuvolari> hmm, if it's foreight I'm afraid I can't understand it :P
[15:44] <Kilos> lol
[15:51] <afrodeity> no nukes
[15:52] <Kilos> lo afrodeity
[15:56] <afrodeity> hi kilos
[15:57] <afrodeity> u don't perhaps know which file to delete to reset amarok 2.4 db?
[15:59] <tumbleweed> froztbyte, Symmetria: debian.mirror.ac.za is still out of sync
[16:00] <afrodeity> simulated reboot
[16:01] <afrodeity> good friday 2moro, time to build a new kernel
[16:20] <afrodeity> reddit went down
[17:30] <Kilos> superfly, if this modem keeps looking for the stc network pin  will installing new firmware clear what it is looking for
[17:31] <Kilos> or how would i get to see and change it/ delete so it doesnt look for a pin
[17:39] <Kilos> should i try follow these instructions
[17:39] <Kilos> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576997
[17:40] <Kilos> lo rverrips
[17:40] <rverrips> Yo-yo, Kilo'


[01:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lubuntu-default-settings (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.54.2 => 0.54.3] (no packageset)
[06:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (eoan-proposed/main) [2.04-1ubuntu3 => 2.04-1ubuntu3] (core)
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libinput (bionic-proposed/main) [1.10.4-1 => 1.10.4-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (desktop-core)
[06:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (eoan-proposed/main) [2.04-1ubuntu3 => 2.04-1ubuntu3] (core)
[07:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oem-osp1 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-1016.18]
[07:39] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, you tested python3 tests against itself, and it failed... can we hint it for some days to let e.g. ncurses migrate or is somebody going to fix testsuites?
[07:41] <LocutusOfBorg> AssertionError: 'Ubuntu' != 'Fedora'
[07:41] <LocutusOfBorg> I agree that Ubuntu is not Fedora, yes python, thanks for telling that to me :)
[07:49] <LocutusOfBorg> actually that test failed since the begin... meh
[07:56] <LocutusOfBorg> looks like an ssl-related failure...
[08:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1038.40] (kernel)
[08:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: backport-iwlwifi-dkms (eoan-proposed/primary) [7906-0ubuntu1]
[08:38] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: I'm looking at that one today, will try to resolve it one way or the other
[09:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oem [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1048.55] (kernel)
[09:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (disco-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1012.12] (core, kernel)
[09:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (disco-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1013.13] (core, kernel)
[10:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1038.40]
[10:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure [amd64] (disco-proposed) [5.0.0-1013.13]
[10:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oem [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1048.55]
[10:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (disco-proposed) [5.0.0-1012.12]
[11:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [2.04-1ubuntu3]
[11:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [arm64] (eoan-proposed) [2.04-1ubuntu3]
[11:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dkms (xenial-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu11.7 => <IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu11.8] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[12:02] <ginggs> would someone please 'force-badtest python-sparse/0.2.0-1/i386' ? - it has regressed in release
[12:02] <ginggs> also please 'force-badtest satpy/0.16.1-1'
[13:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dkms [source] (xenial-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu11.8]
[13:31] <LocutusOfBorg> can anybody please process https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flower/+bug/1838213 ?
[14:01] <LocutusOfBorg> and also, arthemis changed from arch:any to arch:all, please drop NBS proposed "missing build on arm64: artemis (from 17.0.1+dfsg-1)£"
[14:24] <LocutusOfBorg> reverse-depends should take care of debian/tests/control too, because otherwise lots of python2 dropped packages will have testsuite failures, e.g. python-ceilometerclient
[14:24] <LocutusOfBorg> it migrates because the old python2 package is still in the archive?
[14:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added dpf-plugins to ubuntustudio in eoan
[14:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added ubuntustudio-menu-add to ubuntustudio in eoan
[14:34] <ahasenack> tjaalton: hi there
[14:34] <ahasenack> tjaalton: thoughts on sssd 2.2?
[14:34] <ahasenack> they jumped from 1.16 to 2.0, 2.1 and now 2.2?
[14:34] <ahasenack> ops, wrong channel
[14:34] <ahasenack> -> #ubuntu-devel
[15:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (bionic-proposed/main) [2:12.0.6-0ubuntu2 => 2:12.0.6-0ubuntu3] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[15:19] <coreycb> sil2100: infinity: hi there, by any chance can we fast-track neutron 2:12.0.6-0ubuntu3 into bionic-proposed and bionic-updates (with testing of course)? it fixes a regression in 2:12.0.6-0ubuntu1 and 2:12.0.6-0ubuntu2.
[15:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mutter [source] (disco-proposed) [3.32.2+git20190711-2ubuntu1~19.04.1]
[15:48] <sil2100> coreycb: hey! I can take a look at the neutron upload
[15:48] <coreycb> sil2100: thanks!
[15:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron [source] (bionic-proposed) [2:12.0.6-0ubuntu3]
[15:58] <sil2100> coreycb: ok, accepted - since this is basically a -updates regression and a reintroduction of a patch invalidly dropped, let's think about getting this out faster
[15:58] <sil2100> coreycb: can you also run some sanity-tests on the package, besides the required bug verification that the reporter will perform?
[15:58] <coreycb> sil2100: thanks. yes i can do that, no problem.
[15:59] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: looks to me like a fixed python3.7 is in -proposed now
[16:00] <sil2100> vorlon: I uploaded the same fix for 3.8 some hour ago
[16:01] <sil2100> The packages are still building
[16:01] <vorlon> sil2100: huzzah, thanks
[16:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinder (disco-proposed/main) [2:14.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 2:14.0.1-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[16:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (disco-proposed/main) [3:15.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 3:15.1.0-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[17:07] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, if you have spare time (sigh, I know you are all overbusy), please process the last 4 bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[17:07] <LocutusOfBorg> they should be all good, I checked reverse-deps and other stuff
[17:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nova (bionic-proposed/main) [2:17.0.10-0ubuntu2 => 2:17.0.11-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[17:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (bionic-proposed/main) [2:12.0.6-0ubuntu3 => 2:12.1.0-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[17:43] <LocutusOfBorg>  I think passing from "neutral" to "failure" is wrong, in dh-cargo context. if some new package was "bd-uninstallable" doesn't mean it should be good when build deps are in place
[17:43] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, ^^ do you agree?  e.g. http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/r/rust-doc-comment/eoan/amd64
[21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit (disco-backports/universe) [198-1~ubuntu19.04.1 => 199-1~ubuntu19.04.1] (no packageset)
[21:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cockpit [source] (disco-backports) [199-1~ubuntu19.04.1]
[21:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit (bionic-backports/universe) [198-1~ubuntu18.04.1 => 199-1~ubuntu18.04.1] (no packageset)
[21:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cockpit [source] (bionic-backports) [199-1~ubuntu18.04.1]
[22:41] <bdmurray> LocutusOfBorg: E117 is about "indentation" - notice the n before the first d.
[23:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: logwatch (bionic-proposed/main) [7.4.3+git20161207-2ubuntu1 => 7.4.3+git20161207-2ubuntu1.1] (ubuntu-server)


[00:09] <timberwolf> I used wine to run EVE Online and when I closed it the cursor locked up and when I logged out and back in the cursor worked until I entered my account, however if I log in with a different user I can use my cursor.
[00:09] <timberwolf> Any ideas?
[00:18] <timberwolf> anyone?
[00:18] <TheLordOfTime> patience.
[00:19] <timberwolf> is a virtue?
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> and advised given you're right around new years
[00:20] <timberwolf> I waited 10 minutes before speaking again.
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> i'm just saying
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> it can take a LONg time for responses around new years.
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> give it a day or two, and many'll return ;)
[00:26] <timberwolf> ok
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> but you usually get a response within an hour or two, but... *shrugs*
[00:27] <timberwolf> I have been at the computer for hours and I will be here hours more
[00:28] <timberwolf> you saying patients fits your nick
[01:33] <selite> What is the keyboard shortcut for the terminal in Kubuntu?
[01:33] <selite> :)
[02:29] <cjae> is anyone else having issues with the time being set to the wrong time?
[02:30] <cjae> when I issue a date the date is correct in terminal
[02:32] <monkeyjuice> what time is it
[03:10] <Linkmaster> 12.10amd64 install is hanging on "copying installation logs... 93%" I don't know how old the download is, it's rather new though, a couple weeks at most. It installed just fine an hour or so ago, I'm wondering why it's not working now.
[03:12] <Linkmaster> I don't want to kill the install, that'll be annoying, but it's been hanging for about 30 mins..
[03:29] <kotTon_kaNdiy> hello..how can i find other chat rooms?
[03:31] <nafg> kotTon_kaNdiy: Google
[03:31] <kotTon_kaNdiy> okk thank you
[03:31] <nafg> kotTon_kaNdiy: What do you need?
[03:31] <kotTon_kaNdiy> i wanted to find other chatrooms
[03:31] <Unit193> !alis | kotTon_kaNdiy
[03:39] <kotTon_kaNdiy> i need help
[03:43] <kotTon_kaNdiy> how can i access other rooms?
[04:48] <Basil1x> 12.10 on a Toshiba L755.  the sound works for a bit, then craps out.  everything insists sound is working, but there is no sound.  bog standard install.  HDMI port is unaffected, is internal speakers only that don't work.  Any help would be appreciated.
[05:07] <phunyguy_t430s> o.O why does rekonq have the NFL website icon where the Facebook icon should be on the tab and in the address bar?  weird...
[05:11] <Basil1x> anyone here know how to fix kubuntu having an issue seeing a sound card?
[05:12] <Basil1x> sound stops after awhile, but thinks it's still working.
[05:17] <hruion> hi
[05:18] <Basil1x> Hello
[05:18] <hruion> en
[05:19] <hruion> my english is poor
[05:19] <hruion> dinn`er to go
[05:20] <hruion> bye
[05:21] <phunyguy_t430s> figured it out.  ~/.kde/cache-{hostname}/favicons has the png stored, so I killed the one labeled www.facebook.com.png - which indeed was the NFL logo for someodd reason.
[05:22] <Basil1x> mebbe facebook 'Like'd NFL?
[05:32] <Dutchman> Basil1x, is the HDMI and system speakers two different devices in the "System Settings > Multimedia > Phonon" setup?
[05:33] <Basil1x> Must be, without the HDMI plugged in, all I see is the internal speakers.  I believe both are controlled by the sound card though.
[05:34] <Dutchman> Are you on the computer now? Can you check?
[05:36] <Basil1x> just a moment... checking now
[05:37] <Basil1x> they seem to be one device
[05:38] <Basil1x> dammit
[05:39] <Dutchman> Hmm... odd. Sometimes I've seen the sound do like you describe when there's two devices, can't say why with just one though.
[05:44] <hruion> i'm back
[07:28] <user94202> I'm having a problem with screensavers not working in kde. I set them to random.  Any ideas?
[07:41] <shadeslayer> user94202: did you install screensavers?
[07:43] <shadeslayer> you probably want to install kscreensaver
[07:49] <user94202> shadeslayer:  Yes i fixed the problem by installing kscreensaver.  Now i see them.
[07:50] <user94202> Next problem:  File associations for .wav and .mp3 to open VLC media player, but they keep opening Audacity.
[07:51] <user94202> I want VLC to start when I click a .wav or .mp3
[07:52] <shadeslayer> did you set vlc to a higher priority ?
[07:52] <shadeslayer> it's in System Settings > File associations
[07:52] <user94202> yes i did. But it keeps defaulting back to audacity as the priority.
[07:52] <shadeslayer> hm
[07:53] <shadeslayer> user94202: can you close your file browser and run kbuildsycoca4 and then try opening the file?
[07:53] <user94202> ok..justa moment
[07:57] <user94202> no, kbuildsycoca4 didn't help.  Still opens Audacity.    Can i set the default media player for ALL audio to VLC?
[07:58] <user94202> Actually, set the global setting for media to VLC
[07:58] <shadeslayer> via File Associations, sure, but I don't know of a global setting to do it
[07:59] <user94202> When I select "audio" in the file associations, it won't allow me to set anything.  I have to set each individual audio file's associations.
[08:00] <shadeslayer> yeah
[08:00] <shadeslayer> can you pastebin your ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[08:00] <user94202> ok
[08:01] <shadeslayer> I added this to [Added Associations] in mine :
[08:01] <shadeslayer> audio/*=vlc.desktop
[08:01] <shadeslayer> and it seems to work
[08:02] <shadeslayer> heh, nvm, vlc was already taking mp3 mimetypes
[08:04] <user94202> yes, i might need to arrange the priority of that file.
[08:04] <user94202> put vlc first..checking..
[08:06] <user94202> I notice that audacity was first on the list, so i put VLC..  Testing .wav.
[08:06] <shadeslayer> cool
[08:07] <shadeslayer> that shoul ideally work
[08:08] <shadeslayer> user94202: you probably have to run kbuildsycoca4 once you dedit that file
[08:18] <user94202> <still testing....
[08:18] <shadeslayer> ok
[08:19] <user94202> no. That didn't work either.  I'll pastebin that file you wanted.
[08:23] <user94202> mongrel thing. Now Reqonk isn't working
[08:23] <user94202> Going to reboot.  Clear this mess. Back soon
[08:34] <user94202> I set VLC as default media player, yet it loads Audacity.
[08:35] <user94202> Here's my ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[08:35] <user94202> http://pastebin.com/6skaGCvx
[08:36] <Wizard> user94202: When does it load Audacity?
[08:36] <Wizard> When clicking on a file?
[08:36] <user94202> yes.. when i click on a .wav file it loads audacity. I want VLC
[08:37] <user94202> in fact i'd like to remove audacity completely from the file associations
[08:37] <user94202> except with audacity's own filetype.
[08:38] <user94202> I just want VLC as the default media player for audio and video.
[08:44] <user94202> OK...i think i got VLC as default.
[08:45] <user94202> I right click the .wav file  >>  properities >> edit filetype >>  VLC
[08:46] <user94202> I suppose i do that to each media file i want to use VLC with.
[08:46] <brent> recently apt-get updated and uprade kubuntu raring. now touchpad settings crash. anyone know how to fix?
[08:48] <user94202> Fixed :-)   Clicking .wav opens VLC.
[08:49] <brent> tried downgrade of kde-config-touchpad. didnt help. anyone?
[08:50] <shadeslayer> brent: looking
[08:50] <shadeslayer> probably it's not ported to python3 or sth
[08:50] <brent> thanks.
[08:51] <brent> oh, i added unity desktop and cinnamon recently. and after update noticed touchpad settings crash in kde
[08:52] <shadeslayer> unrealted, I have the crash on plain kubuntu raring myself
[08:53] <brent> oh well thanks for your time so far.. usually the folks here help sort this stuff out...
[08:54] <brent> OH! i have a seperate synaptics management in the menu uder utilities. the settings launch fine!!
[08:55] <brent> puts a touchpad icon in the sys tray and gives access too settings..
[08:58] <brent> I saw the bug report for the kshell4 touch pad settings crash or whatever.. after original install it crashed. then updated and it worked. and after another update it crashes again...
[09:20] <shadeslayer> brent: https://github.com/lunaryorn/synaptiks/issues
[09:20] <shadeslayer> you can report a bug there :)
[12:19] <eakky> hello
[12:21] <eakky> I wanted to make a website about kubuntu Thailand. Created or not
[12:22] <eakky> see Ubuntu's Club (ubuntu Thailand) is a member of Ubuntu Loco.
[12:32] <gabin> smth is going to happen on ubuntu site
[13:13] <Guest1717> salve ubuntu 12.10 non mi rileva l'hardware della scheda di memoria sd da2gb
[13:18] <ovidiu-florin> hello, I have a problem with making an ad-hoc connection. I'm connected to the internet using an USB modem, and I've made a wifi shared connection. I was able to connect to this wifi connection from a windows 7 machine but I have no internet access on it. Any thoughts on this? What can I test? What can I try?
[13:29] <phoenix_firebrd> Guest1717 | !it
[13:29] <phoenix_firebrd> !it | Guest1717
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:31] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: hi
[13:31] <susundberg> _o/
[13:32] <BluesKaj> hi phoenix_firebrd
[13:55] <alberto> giorno
[13:55] <alberto> !list
[15:47] <DarthFrog>  /msg ubottu !alis
[17:09] <AMDAthlon> will kubuntu 12.10 get KDE 4.9.5 from the PPA eventually?
[17:16] <shadeslayer> that's the plan I think
[17:17] <TheLordOfTime> he left.
[17:25] <tommykruse> I have a bash script, /etc/network/if-down.d/test that isn't getting executed when I disconnect from my wifi connection from the Network Manager. What could be the cause of this? What program is in charge of executing if-down.d scripts?
[18:07] <mindspin> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:10] <man> hello
[19:03] <bruno_> ubuntu 12.10 non riesce a rilevare l'hardware della scheda di memoria sd da 2gb
[19:17] <Guest36282> Ciao
[19:18] <rsd> It seems that KDE does not support CUPS with authentication, is that right?  Kubuntu 12.10 + ppa
[19:18] <Ab3L> hi
[19:25] <Ab3L> i have a problem with the clock on the pannel. if you click on it, you'll get space with a calendar of the month on the left and a description on the right. My problem is that the size of the description is too small. Do you know how to make it bigger?
[19:31] <tsimpson> Ab3L: hover over the top right corner of the calendar that pops up, you should then be able to click and drag to adjust its size
[19:32] <Ab3L> oh, yes! it was so simple!
[19:34] <user123456> hey, does kubuntu also have amazon spyware installed or can I safely switch to it?
[19:35] <Ab3L> thank you tsimpson. (i don't know why it haven't worked before. i may have to change the batteries of my mouse...)
[19:35] <tsimpson> user123456: the answer is "no", though neither does ubuntu
[19:36] <tsimpson> Ab3L: it's not that obvious you can do it, but it is the most intuitive way when you think about it
[19:36] <user123456> are you on amazon's payroll?
[19:38] <tsimpson> user123456: no
[19:38] <user123456> just kidding.. but does it also have amazon-shopping-lense installed
[19:38] <tsimpson> no, Kubuntu doesn't have that
[19:38] <user123456> or records any user information by default?
[19:38] <user123456> ok, thank you
[19:39] <Ab3L> sure, i'd tried to enlarge the plasmoid with the mouse (as natural), but it didn't work. i think that's because i've to charge the batteries of the mouse, so that it can handle a long click.
[19:39] <Ab3L> that's the problem with wireless mouses.
[19:40] <Ab3L> the only feature i miss from windows, is an application that shows me the level of the charge of the batteries of my cordless mouse.
[19:40] <Ab3L> :)
[19:41] <shadeslayer> user123456: depends, iirc krunner tries to learn when you type stuff into it
[19:41] <shadeslayer> but it doesn't send any info out to the internet
[20:02] <twing> When will the 4.9.5 version of KDE in Kubuntu 12.10?
[20:03] <twing> When will the 4.9.5 version of KDE in Kubuntu 12.10?
[20:08] <gabin> ubuntu phone!
[22:05] <anunaki> hi
[22:06] <anunaki> just installed kubuntu live and shows no bluetooth adapter?
[22:06] <anunaki> is this common
[22:24] <Guest10535>  i got bluetoth
[23:35] <eth7up> I just installed kubuntu for my parents, it's loading ssb for the wireless card but wlan0 doesn't exist ifconfig -a shows only eth0 and lo0 same with iwconfig
[23:35] <eth7up> 3rd party drivers were enabled
[23:35] <eth7up> lspci -k shows ssb loaded for the wireless card


[01:50] <nathan> What's good?
[01:51] <skaperen> hello, i connected here using the web client from the forum software but many things seem wrong like the screen layout is the wrong size so i need to scroll up to get to the input area
[01:54] <skaperen> the forum software is hosed, too ... i tried to post a question but it would not post.  then i tried to cancel ... the window went dark and stayed that way
[01:55] <skaperen> when i try to view any topic it tries to resume the post i canceled
[08:25] <q_> هلا
[08:25] <q_> بوه عرب
[08:26] <q_> يا عربان
[09:12] <ubuntu-mate> Hello
[09:12] <ubuntu-mate> Im talking from a live USB, because GRUB disappeared from the dual boot UEFI
[09:12] <ubuntu-mate> Anybody knows how to reinstall GRUB from the Live_
[09:12] <ubuntu-mate> ?
[12:04] <Nesh> Would anyone know what it is that causes PlayOnLinux virtual shorcuts to appear as generic 4-leaf clovers rather than their usual custom appearance?
[12:04] <alkisg> Upload a screenshot so that we check
[12:05] <alkisg> Maybe they're .desktop shortcuts that they don't have their execute bit set
[12:05] <alkisg> And if they're on the desktop, an `ls -lha ~/Desktop` would help too
[14:37] <lucas-arg> hello all...
[14:37] <lucas-arg> wanted to know if 16.04 has lastest version of mate desktop?
[14:57] <alkisg> No, it's the latest long term release
[16:30] <mate|67560> Hey.
[17:30] <raspberry> Hello!
[19:49] <lucas-arg> is this channel active at all?
[20:00] <Akuli> lucas-arg, yes
[20:01] <Akuli> it's active, but response times can be long as you can see :)
[20:02] <lucas-arg> ok :D
[21:20] <lucas-arg> have to say that wanted to try this desktop for a while, its quite nice to revive gnome2 taste, but seriously... need to use some moderm theme like numix or arc by default... its so ugly the default one...


[12:13] <DarwinSurvivor> khoover: most routers (linksys) at least offer support for at least 1 ddns service, so check there first.
[12:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Most ddns services also provide their own update software, so check with them (dyndns is pretty good).
[12:14] <khoover> yes, but then it costs money most of the time. or at least, all of the ones my router supports cost money
[12:26] <DarwinSurvivor> then try ddns, they offer 1 domain for free per account
[12:26] <DarwinSurvivor> sorry "dyndns"
[12:27] <DarwinSurvivor> oh, my bad, they don't offer that anymore (my account must have been grand-fathered)
[12:28] <DarwinSurvivor> no-ip.com is fairly popular though and still has their free entry-level service (which includes everything you would need)
[12:28] <DarwinSurvivor> the paid ones are for e-mail hosting, etc
[13:35] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:55] <BluesKaj> nvidia 7600gt on nvidia-current driver after the libc upgrade is running fine here
[15:55] <BluesKaj> kubnuntu 12.04 , kde 4.8
[15:56] <BluesKaj> oops wrong chan
[21:47] <BotenAnna> i finally got dual boot to work but i wiped everything to do it
[21:47] <BotenAnna> in case anyone is curious


[22:57] <iandalton> mohd: that's still covered by the shortcut keys setup, AFAIK
[22:57] <Guest59487> i dont kno iandalton all i kno is it does what i need
[22:57] <SATop> how to disable paid software in ubuntu software center  ?
[22:57] <Stereocaulon> DigiDaz_, multimedia is very Network-intensive, unless you are talking about background rendering. Pixel-graphics are poorly suited for such an environment.
[22:57] <mohd> iandalton: i wasn't aware of that .. where should i look?
[22:58] <iandalton> mohd: as that bug report says, dconf
[22:58] <SATop> why are there no categories for free and paid software in ubuntu software center ?
[22:58] <Guest59487> im a newbie to ubuntu desktop i can use centos easy on a server or debain or ubuntu server but as a OS for myself on computer im new to it
[22:58] <iandalton> Guest59487: well if you don't know what features you're looking for, how can you choose one IRC client over another? X-Chat is nice for newbies.
[22:59] <Guest59487> i want one that has admin /server features on it iandalton
[22:59] <Guest59487> sorry looking for one that that has *
[22:59] <Stereocaulon> Guest59487, X-chat has some capabilities for that, but they are a bit cumbersome and far from complete.
[23:00] <iandalton> Guest59487: it probably has that
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest59487: install the desktop OS and use it, there is enough admin on there todo what you need
[23:00] <Guest59487> ty Stereocaulon
[23:00] <Guest59487> okies ActionParsnip
[23:00] <Stereocaulon> Guest59487, np
[23:00] <dpb_> SATop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47997/is-it-possible-to-remove-the-commercial-programs-section-from-the-software-cente
[23:01] <SATop> dpb i have a look
[23:02] <Guest59487> decided ill use irssi
[23:03] <SATop> dpb that is way to much work for me it should be a default option even google play market has separate categories
[23:03] <mohd> Stereocaulon: do you know the link for the bug that sary reported?
[23:03] <Stereocaulon> mohd, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/995185
[23:04] <Stereocaulon> Heading off to bed now. Thanks for the nice atmosphere everyone :-)
[23:05] <iandalton> Stereocaulon: didn't you post that link before?
[23:05] <iandalton> and it turned out mohd was the submitter?
[23:05] <mohd> Stereocaulon: thank you
[23:05] <dpb_> SATop: you can file bugs/feature requests against ubuntu-software-center.  https://launchpad.net/software-center.  Sorry, I'm not a developer on that project or anything.
[23:05] <iandalton> oh nvm
[23:06] <Stereocaulon> iandalton,  mohd, yes I did, didn't I. Must be getting too late for me...Yawn, off to bed...
[23:07] <nintet> ok, now i get network farts which make anything on the internet or local lan unreachable... network recovers in about 3 or 4 minutes
[23:07] <nintet> is that a new fact of life in 12.04?
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> nintet: try disabling ipv6 if you don't use it
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> nintet: when the network drops, run:  dmesg | tail      the output may help
[23:09] <mohd> i run dconf-editor .. looking at org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings and org.gnome.mutter.keybindings .. i don't see what is that got got to do with the multimedia keys!
[23:09] <nintet> well there are no ipv6 routers here, so i just ste the method to "ignore" correct?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> nintet: no, it will still be attempted to be used, disabling it can help
[23:11] <jubei_> I'd like to know if its possible to have an indicator applet for xchat on ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-shell, classic, no effects?
[23:12] <jubei_> rephrase: I'd like to know if anyone has a working indicator applet for xchat on ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-shell, classic, no effects? or similar solution.
[23:13] <xangua> !info xchat-gnome-indicator | jubei_
[23:15] <jubei_> xangua, thanks, if only i substituted "gnome shell" for "indicator applet" in my google searches!
[23:16] <mohd> the keys are located on the top in front of the hardware power switch  ..http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/11009.jpg
[23:19] <cristian> hi
[23:20] <mohd> hey
[23:21] <IntuitiveNipple> mohd: Have you tried 'toshset' with it?  http://schwieters.org/toshset/
[23:24] <mohd> IntuitiveNipple: hi there , no i haven't .. i'll look into it.
[23:24] <mohd> thank you :)
[23:27] <IntuitiveNipple> mohd: I'm watching your bug report too ... I may re-open it this week and we can progress your issue there. I have found other users of the M100 report previous versions of Ubuntu work with the M100.
[23:27] <linuxuz3r> so quiet in here
[23:27] <linuxuz3r> lol
[23:27] <PhotoJim> I'm not being offered an upgrade to precise (12.04LTS) from lucid (10.04LTS).  if I tell Update Manager to show all upgrade versions, it wants to upgrade to 10.10 but I'd rather do an LTS-to-LTS upgrade.  am I missing something.
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> PhotoJim: youo won't until 12.04.1 is out
[23:28] <PhotoJim> ActionParsnip: oh, okay.  so this is normal behaviour. :)
[23:28] <xangua> PhotoJim: open the preferences from the update manager and change the preferences to upgrade to only LTS versions
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> PhotoJim: indeed, you can force the upgrade if you want
[23:28] <Daekdroom> PhotoJim, It is still possible to do the upgrade (although there's a reason it's not offered)
[23:29] <xangua> ActionParsnip: didn't knew one had to wait to upgrade from lts to lts
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> xangua: yeah its to check all is ok with the upgrade and stuff
[23:29] <PhotoJim> Daekdroom: it's not critical.  it's a netbook and the data stick I use when I travel to the US (on T-Mobile US) isn't supported.  but I can still do EDGE and it's not bad.  I can be patient if there are issues.
[23:29] <IntuitiveNipple> PhotoJim: From the Precise release notes "It is recommended that users running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS wait for the 12.04.1 LTS point release, scheduled for July, before upgrading. (988941)"  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure-1.Upgrades
[23:30] <PhotoJim> IntuitiveNipple: Much appreciated.
[23:30] <PhotoJim> Daekdroom: thanks for the info.
[23:31] <mohd> IntuitiveNipple: thank you very much i appreciate it .. am new to all of this , but am learning and i can get use to it.
[23:31] <Rand1> Hey Folks, I just installed ubuntu for the first time on this computer.  The audio doesnt work.  I tried installing pulse audio, but I'm a noob and I'm worried i might make things worse than better.
[23:31] <Taev> my upgrade to natty narwhale locked up about 3/4ths of the way through the actual install process, how can I resume the upgrade?
[23:32] <IntuitiveNipple> mohd: I think your bug will be with "linux" but let me sort that out
[23:32] <Taev> the new kernel wont boot, and booting under "previous linux versions" has no graphics configuration
[23:32] <themoebius> I had a server stop responding so I rebooted it and now mdstat shows the raid doing a resync. But all devices status is up and working fine. The volume seems to be writeable. Is it safe to continue using it as normal?
[23:32] <klaatu1> Anyone here familiar with not borking EFI booting for Macs?  I found an article with scary notes (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChathttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChathttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat), but the disk image listed doesn't seem to have a cognate for 12.04.
[23:33] <klaatu1> Taev: can you log in at all, even command line?
[23:33] <Taev> yeah
[23:33] <Taev> i just cant launch kdm/gdm
[23:33] <yell0w> how can i recover some .txt files that i just /bin/rm ?
[23:34] <klaatu1> I think there was an apt-get resume command that might help you out.
[23:34] <Taev> well id be deeply grateful since my system is pretty useless at the moment
[23:35] <IntuitiveNipple> themoebius: mdadm man-page says its okay to use during a resync
[23:35] <yell0w> how can i recover some .txt files that i just /bin/rm ?
[23:35] <totesmuhgoats> yell0w: what filesystem?
[23:35] <yell0w> totesmuhgoats: ext4
[23:35] <totesmuhgoats> first make sure you are not writing anything to that filesystem
[23:35] <Taev> i tried apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:36] <klaatu1> No luck?
[23:36] <Taev> and it seems to have continued from the right point
[23:36] <yell0w> totesmuhgoats: and ?
[23:36] <Taev> ty
[23:36] <klaatu1> Blind leading the blind!
[23:36] <kaizoku> What is with packages like "head" and "xserver-xorg-video-cyrix". Aptitude reports them as "State: not a real package", but other packages depend on them and they exist in `apt-cache pkgnames` output
[23:36] <klaatu1> ;->
[23:36] <totesmuhgoats> yell0w: been a while since i did this, looking it up now
[23:37] <totesmuhgoats> yell0w: there is a tool you can use called extundelete apparently, but i've never used it
[23:37] <klaatu1> No takers on EFI and dual-booting Macs, though?
[23:37] <yell0w> totesmuhgoats: thank you. i looked up scalpel and foremost but they recover pics, etc... not txt files :(
[23:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Taev: Have you tried sudo do-release-upgrade (it should/might pick up where things went wrong) ?
[23:37] <totesmuhgoats> but it looks much simpler than what I went through back when I had to do it
[23:37] <Taev> nah i did su  then apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:37] <ucstaa> how old is the mac? the old EFI mac minis had a lot of problems dual booting
[23:37] <Taev> and it worked perfectly
[23:37] <Taev> but ty
[23:38] <klaatu1> It's a mid-2009 13" MBP
[23:38] <klaatu1> Relatively simple; one graphics card.
[23:38] <IntuitiveNipple> kaizoku: They are "virtual" packages, do not contain anything
[23:38] <kaizoku> they aren't virtual packages though
[23:39] <kaizoku> apache2 is a virtual package
[23:39] <kaizoku> but `aptitude show apache2` still gives info
[23:39] <kaizoku> and it tells you what packages provide apache2
[23:39] <kaizoku> and an actual .deb exists for virtual packages
[23:40] <IntuitiveNipple> yell0w: Have you tried "photorec" ? Despite its name it recovers text files
[23:40] <kaizoku> no such package exists for head or xserver-xorg-cyrix
[23:40] <yell0w> IntuitiveNipple: really ?
[23:40] <yell0w> IntuitiveNipple: hold on then
[23:40] <rypervenche> photorec is what you want
[23:40] <rypervenche> yell0w: It will fine a crapton of text files and without the names probably.
[23:40] <IntuitiveNipple> yell0w: It is part of the testdisk suite
[23:41] <PLAYFUN> Hey, what can i use to run a OS in a OS?
[23:41] <rypervenche> yell0w: I would immediately stop using the disk and start using a live CD.
[23:41] <Taev> virtual box
[23:41] <totesmuhgoats> PLAYFUN: virtual machine software, qemu or virtualbox are free
[23:41] <[LinuxFan]> ubuntu 10.04 virtual terminal set green fonts
[23:41] <Taev> VMware
[23:41] <totesmuhgoats> there are non free ones like vmware
[23:41] <kaizoku> qemu
[23:41] <wylde> !virtualbox | PLAYFUN
[23:42] <wylde> !kvm | PLAYFUN  also see:
[23:43] <yell0w> rypervenche: it's in /home
[23:43] <rypervenche> yell0w: Doesn't matter.
[23:43] <yell0w> rypervenche: erhm how to do make photorec look for whatever's deleted in a folder ?
[23:43] <PLAYFUN> YES it in the Ubuntu software center
[23:43] <AeSix> Dual monitor help needed - primary PCIe Radeon 6xxx; secondary PCI nVidia (old 32 MB card) - no idea where to even begin looking again, google for the last half hour has resulted in complaints, calls for help and solutions that don't apply :S
[23:43] <rypervenche> yell0w: You can't. You have to search for all of the text files on the disk
[23:43] <rypervenche> yell0w: Then you'll have to sort through them all.
[23:44] <yell0w> rypervenche: @_@ that'd be a LOT of text files
[23:44] <rypervenche> yell0w: If you know what's in it, you can grep through all of the recovered txt files.
[23:44] <yell0w> darn
[23:44] <rypervenche> yell0w: rm is a powerful tool. You should make sure you know what you are doing before using it.
 YES it in the Ubuntu software center
 YES it in the Ubuntu software center
[23:44] <yell0w> rypervenche: i know i know i forgot where i was
[23:44] <yell0w> :~(
[23:44] <zykotic10> AeSix: i've heard that nvidia and ati proprietary drivers don't like being installed on the same system, good luck.
[23:45] <klaatu1> So, one more try: nobody familiar with how to keep the installer from overwriting my EFI partition and borking a 2009 MacBookPro?
[23:45] <wylde> PLAYFUN: ?  Thank you though.
[23:45] <KrizOne> Hi guys, im running unbuntu server and ive just installed vnc4server, is anyone able to tell me where the config file is?  During the install process, I hit 'skip' while copying files, at about the file 39 out of 95. However, the install process continued without problems. Now I want to finish installing those missing packages, and I go to the Ubuntu Manager, and after the scan of the same cd I used to install, I'm told that some untrusted packages are to be installed. I'm given no 'choice' of going ahead anyw
[23:49] <virhilo> there is a way to import password from another keyring ?:)
[23:49] <virhilo> have some passwords in my old hdd - want to merge them somehow
[23:49] <pakattack> Ummm....so I was running the commands from http://paste.ubuntu.com/974643/ and I get errors for the command in line 15
[23:49] <pakattack> I need help
[23:50] <pakattack> Anyone?
[23:50] <Taev> ok for some reason my install wont run a graphics manager at boot, what does natty use as a default
[23:51] <Taev> gdm or kdm?
[23:51] <DarwinSurvivor> pakattack: nobody is going to be able to troubleshoot an error they haven't read.
[23:51] <pakattack> Ummm....so I was running the commands from http://paste.ubuntu.com/974643/ and I get errors for the command in line 15
[23:51] <wylde> !patience | pakattack
[23:52] <Guest46832> is it possible to play games like gta on ubuntu using wine?
[23:52] <renode> is the gparted iso compatable for liveusb?
[23:53] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest46832: use http://appdb.winehq.org/ to check for game compatibility in wine
[23:53] <Guest46832> thanks
[23:53] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest46832: I've seen screencaps for san andreas and I *think* vice city, but check the site for details
[23:54] <Guest46832> doesnt say anything about gta
[23:54] <Guest46832> i've been wanting to play san andreas
[23:54] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest46832: search by FULL name "grand theft auto"
[23:54] <wylde> pakattack: we would need to see the error as well as the command to be able to help you.
[23:55] <DarwinSurvivor> pakattack: for command line issues, please post a pastebin of the ENTIRE terminal session (with commands and errors as they appeared to you)
[23:55] <pakattack> The command is line 15 here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/974643/
[23:56] <Guest46832> ah, yes. it does support it, awesome!
[23:56] <wylde> Taev: it's gdm, unless you're using kubuntu, then it's kdm.
[23:56] <Taev> ty
[23:56] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest46832: make sure you read through the notes, some games work better than others and some need "tweaking" to get working.
[23:56] <Guest46832> alright thanks
[23:57] <wylde> pakattack: ...and the error? .. I did say we need the error didn't I?
[23:57] <pakattack> I can't pastebin my computer is messed up to the point where if I try to do something in terminal trhough ubuntu I get a black screen with white text. I can't even use any programs cuz then I get an error report
[23:58] <DarwinSurvivor> pakattack: judging by that script, you are trying to fix a broken package manager, am I correct?
[23:58] <Guest46832> also, i am new to ubuntu how do i learn how to install stuff using the terminal easy?
[23:58] <DarwinSurvivor> !bash | Guest46832
[23:59] <wylde> !manual | Guest46832 :)
[23:59] <DarwinSurvivor> !apt | Guest46832
[23:59] <Guest46832> thanks
[23:59] <pakattack> As far as the error, I get a whole bunch of W: Failed to fetch (some url) could not resolve (someurl)." Then at the end I get "W: some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead"
[23:59] <wylde> pakattack: you added third party ppa's right?
[23:59] <DarwinSurvivor> pakattack: what is the *root* problem you are trying to resolve (this script is obviously trying to fix SOMETHING). and where did you get the script from?