[00:01] <slawko> uBUXUBu - i think that "assing" wasn't a coincidece :D
[00:01] <uBUXUBu> hehe it was my poor attempt at typing fast
[00:02] <uBUXUBu> i have a desktop in the basement that ima refurb
[00:02] <uBUXUBu> has xp pro in it now
[00:06] <uBUXUBu> does that mean unity is not on the table?
[00:13] <Walex> uBUXUBu: depends on the graphics card.
[00:14] <uBUXUBu> it has a radeon x1300 pro in it with 256mb dedicated
[00:15] <uBUXUBu> buy ill prolly toss either a 2600 xt or a lil 7470 in it
[00:15] <uBUXUBu> i meant 7570
[00:21] <uBUXUBu> how does kubuntu run on a pentium IV, 3.4HT ?
[01:11] <uBUXUBu> is that gonna be enough?
[02:41] <valorie> uBUXUBu: why not burn an ISO on a thumbdrive, and try it out?
[03:00] <uBUXUBu> i was told it runs slow that way
[03:01] <uBUXUBu> which would drive me insane
[03:02] <valorie> uBUXUBu: I'm just suggesting to test it out on the box first
[03:02] <valorie> if everything works ok, then install from the thumbdrive
[03:22] <uBUXUBu> was kinda hopin kubuntu would do unity
[03:22] <Unit193> uBUXUBu: Use Ubuntu?
[03:22] <uBUXUBu> i am
[03:22] <Unit193> So you have Unity, simple.
[03:23] <uBUXUBu> we were talkin about another machine i have in the basement
[03:23] <Unit193> Kubuntu is the KDE version on a Ubuntu base, Unity is another DE, it really doesn't make sense.
[03:23] <uBUXUBu> ok
[03:23] <uBUXUBu> makes sence to me
[03:24] <uBUXUBu> kde with the square icons on the sode panel and that cool search bar!
[03:24] <uBUXUBu> side*
[03:24] <valorie> plain ubuntu is Unity
[03:24] <valorie> we are KDE
[03:24] <valorie> so no, by definition we will never use unity
[03:26] <uBUXUBu> i always make k3b my burner even in my ubuntu desktops
[03:26] <uBUXUBu> nice piece of work by kubuntu
[03:28] <valorie> well, by KDE community, yes
[03:28] <valorie> one of those great pieces of software that Just Works
[03:29] <uBUXUBu> yeah sure does
[03:29] <uBUXUBu> is the kde toreent better too or the same?
[03:29] <uBUXUBu> torrent*
[03:29] <valorie> not sure, I've not used anything but ktorrent for years
[03:30] <uBUXUBu> ahh so they do have thier own
[03:30] <uBUXUBu> ima try that one
[03:30] <valorie> there is a Qt one I think, but I've not tried it
[03:30] <valorie> I used a standalone one years ago, but probably before I started using kubuntu
[03:31] <valorie> uBUXUBu: you know you can have both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed
[03:31] <valorie> or use unity with KDE applications
[03:31] <valorie> it's all up to you, and it all works together
[03:32] <valorie> this isn't religion, it's tools to help you get stuff accomplished
[03:39] <uBUXUBu> quiet here
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> "Let us go out this evening for pleasure. The night is still young."
[04:50] <ek> Hrm. Still having issues with my NIC. Download can hit gig-e top speeds no problem. But, upload is generally 10MB/s but periodically jumps to 20MB/s.
[04:51] <ek> 1/10 to 1/5 max speed is ridiculous.
[04:52] <ek> Worked fine 2 weeks ago. I'm assuming an update b0rk3d this.
[05:01] <ek> Ah. I see this was already reported and fixed in the 14.04 release... Jesus. I gotta use beta to fix an issue that was working fine?
[05:01] <ek> WTF?
[05:08] <ek> Well, hell. Lemme get the 14.04 ISO ready for PXE boot and give it a try, I guess.
[05:17] <binali> Hi. Plaease, help me)
[05:17] <binali> Sorry...\
[05:17] <binali> Please!*
[05:17] <binali> How to install OpenOffice on Kubuntu 13?
[05:18] <valorie> kubuntu 13?
[05:18] <valorie> you mean 13.10?
[05:18] <binali> Yeas!
[05:18] <binali> Yes!
[05:20] <valorie> binali: openoffice is now called libreoffice
[05:20] <ek> binali: sudo apt-get install openoffice
[05:20] <ek> ?
[05:20] <valorie> do you use cli?
[05:20] <ek> Ermm.. sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[05:21] <ek> You'll want to go with Libre.
[05:21] <binali> Yes, i use CLI
[05:21] <valorie> if so, sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[05:21] <valorie> ok
[05:21] <binali> I dont like LibreOffice((
[05:21] <valorie> otherwise, just do a search in muon
[05:21] <valorie> oh
[05:21] <valorie> have you tried calligra?
[05:21] <ek> binali: Out of curiosity, why don't you like Libre?
[05:22] <ek> It supports way more file-types.
[05:22] <valorie> it looks like OOo isn't packaged for the ubuntu community
[05:23] <valorie> perhaps there is a ppa
[05:23] <ek> It's not. OOo is dead.
[05:23] <valorie> !openoffice
[05:23] <valorie> heh
[05:23] <valorie> ek: that's what I have heard too
[05:23] <valorie> there was an effort to keep it alive, but the workers all went with libreoffice
[05:23] <ek> OOo has been dead for qutie some time.
[05:24] <ek> Yep.
[05:24] <binali> I'm dead))
[05:24] <ek> binali: Do you have a reason you're using OOo as opposed to LOo?
[05:25] <ek> binali: You do know that LibreOffice is the newer, supported version of OpenOffice, right?
[05:26] <binali> I agree with you)
[05:27] <binali> But i before used only OpenOffice)
[05:27] <valorie> ek, it walked like a zombie for awhile, which was confusing
[05:27] <ek> Anyhow, gotta reboot and try 14.04 for to see if it fixes my gig-e speed issues... Ridiculous!
[05:27] <valorie> good luck
[05:28] <ek> binali: You won't notice a difference. Same interface, same options, etc..
[05:28] <ek> Exact same project. Just supported and continued.
[05:28] <binali> People, thank you!)
[05:28] <valorie> :-)
[05:28] <ek> valorie: Thanks! :)
[05:28] <ek> Bbiab.
[05:33] <binali> People, it's my KMenu with OpenOffice http://gifok.net/image/KNfL but it's don't working)
[05:36] <valorie> binali: openoffice isn't packaged for *buntu
[05:36] <valorie> please use Calligra or LibreOffice
[05:36] <binali> =))))
[05:37] <binali> Okay, now i install LibreOffice)
[05:38] <valorie> good deal
[05:42] <binali> Thanks for all))
[05:43] <valorie> have fun!
[05:48] <binali> =))
[09:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:24] <ussher_> hi
[09:24] <lordievader> Hey ussher_, how are you doing?
[09:26] <ussher_> nothings every going as quickly as i like, but thats usual.  so good i guess.  you?
[09:26] <lordievader> Doing good :)
[11:14] <LinuxKilledMe> Greetings #Kubuntu. Ive just joined the adventure. I have experienced some vsync problems so i look for it in google.  It only pop On when i press the alimentation button. So straight after, it stop. (logic). Any hints ?
[12:14] <roberto_> ci
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:59] <aramis> exit
[13:59] <aramis> oups
[14:06] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[15:14] <baizon> hi, i have a problem with my brightness adjustment. If i press the FN+F6 key the brightness lvl jump by 40% instead of 10%. Any idea how to fix it?
[15:35] <jozef1> hallo! ik ben hier nieuw, heb al enkele jaren versleten met ubuntu, en ben hier om ook Kubuntu te experementeren.
[15:36] <jozef1> lijkt me wel een leuke distro! al is het even zoeken naar de gebruikte software??
[15:37] <Erthe> #kubuntu-de
[15:41] <vmuser> Hi, is there any fix for panels on multi-monitor setups?
[16:28] <linux> .
[16:37] <netQT> Hello. I have an issue with my touchpad and wifi. They are not working after update was interupted. What can I do to fix them? For touchpad it says that it is not detected
[16:46] <netQT> do I need to reinstall synaptic to fix the touchpad?
[17:04] <RiotingPacifist> I've just upgraded across several versions and while most stuff works, my polkit (i think) is all messed up is there a guide for polkit troubleshooting?
[17:04] <RiotingPacifist> !polkit
[18:01] <soee_> someone on 14.04 already
[18:01] <soee_> ?
[18:01] <Pici> soee: Probably some folks in #ubuntu+1
[18:02] <soee> i doubt i find there atm someone who is using Amarok :)
[18:18] <hyper_ch> hmmm, for some reason I have problems with video playback... and I get very high loads on the system for no apparent reason
[18:18] <hyper_ch> how could I start trouble shooting that?
[18:25] <vimar> Hi
[18:25] <vimar> Anybody knows how to make more dekstops in kubuntu?
[18:25] <vimar> Im lost in this new kde
[18:26] <hyper_ch> more desktops?
[18:30] <vimar> hyper_ch: yeah, more dekstops
[18:31] <hyper_ch> you mean virtual desktops?
[18:32] <vimar> hyper_ch: I mean dekstops that you could change with your scroll mouse in other versions
[18:32] <vimar> or with F1, F2 etc
[18:32] <hyper_ch> so you mean virtual desktops?
[18:37] <vimar> Perhaps Virtual dekstops, I want for example work on Web Browser on Dekstop1 and Irssi on Dekstop3.
[19:02] <MarkDavies> Hi
[19:02] <kkkkk> hi all,  i am using KDE 4.11.3 on ubuntu 12.04 LTS, it is working smoothley but a few questions
[19:02] <MarkDavies> How can I stop the internet from the system terminal?
[19:02] <kkkkk>  want to add some entries on right click desktop, to create new> add some custom entry like presentations etc
[19:02] <kkkkk> how to do that in  KDE
[19:02] <kkkkk> in GNOME, i just need to add that file in templates and that's it. but in KDE how to add a entry to right click context menu on desktop
[19:04] <kkkkk> MarkDavies: which internet you are using right now, wifi, wired
[19:04] <MarkDavies> wifi
[19:06] <kkkkk> what is output of sudo rfkill list
[19:06] <kkkkk> turn off your respective device
[19:06] <MarkDavies> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN;         Soft blocked: no;        Hard blocked: no
[19:07] <MarkDavies> kkkkk: how?
[19:09] <kkkkk> sudo rfkill block 0
[19:09] <kkkkk> wifi will be disconnected
[19:09] <kkkkk> and off
[19:11] <MarkDavies> OK
[19:11] <MarkDavies> thx, it works
[19:12] <kkkkk> to revert, sudo rfkill unblock 0
[19:12] <MarkDavies> but is there a way to actually disconnect the internet (regardless of interface)?
[19:13] <kkkkk> yes, there are but i don't know
[19:22] <progers> Hello
[19:25] <progers> I want to compile Teeworlds using bam release but the term is saying https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8116984  i know that he wants to use the freetype, but i have freetype installed on my system http://iceimg.com/fgUKIU_v/snapshot4 what can i do to fix that?
[19:26] <MarkDavies> I've introduced my password being asked about it by sudo and now it does not ask me about it again. How can I fix it?
[19:42] <SonikkuAmerica> MarkDavies: Kill the terminal window you used (don't gracefully close it), or log out and back in.
[19:43] <SonikkuAmerica> MarkDavies: The idea behind sudo remembering your password for a while is for the benefit of running multiple commands with root privileges in succession.
[20:16] <MarkDavies> SonikkuAmerica: thanks
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> yw
[20:18] <MarkDavies> I'm in /var/log. why doesn't cat dpkg.log | split work?
[23:40] <j355d85> hi


[01:38] <mup> PR snapcraft#3493 opened: cli: rename experimental login environment variable <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3493>
[06:01] <mborzecki> morning
[07:03] <pstolowski> morning
[07:04] <mvo> good morning pstolowski
[07:08] <zyga> good morning
[07:12] <mborzecki> mvo: zyga: pstolowski morning guys
[07:12] <zyga> :-)
[07:12] <zyga> I wonder what the ZFS investigation turns out
[07:16] <pstolowski> mvo: did you ping colin-king about zfs-linux or should i?
[07:17] <mvo> good morning mborzecki and zyga !
[07:17] <mvo> pstolowski: go ahead, I did not see him on irc yesterday so I did not ping him
[07:17] <zyga> hej mvo
[07:17] <pstolowski> mvo: yeah me neither, will try todaty
[07:17] <pstolowski> *today
[07:17] <zyga> I will fire up my machine, just need to find a power cable
[07:18] <mvo> pstolowski: thanks!
[07:31] <zyga> ok, my zfs box is up
[08:54] <pstolowski> xnox: hi, fyi https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10113
[08:54] <mup> PR #10113: systemd: wait for zfs mounts <Bug> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10113>
[08:56] <pstolowski> mvo: re yesterday's point about implicit dependency of snaps units on fs-local.target, i don't see it with systemctl list-dependencies <snap-unit>
[09:00] <pstolowski> oh well, the gpg unit test error keeps delivering...
[09:00] <pstolowski> didn't Ian look at it?
[09:58] <mup> PR snapd#10116 opened: gadget: be more flexible with kernel content resolving <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10116>
[11:00] <mborzecki> re
[11:03] <mup> PR snapd#10096 closed: gadget: add support for kernel command line provided by the gadget <Skip spread> <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10096>
[11:13] <diddledan> if /tmp/.X11-unix isn't a directory snap-confine moans: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/LVMtW7q0/
[11:14] <diddledan> or maybe that's snapd..? someone moans.
[11:14] <diddledan> (looking at X11 support for WSL2's native gui capabilities)
[11:14] <diddledan> I've updated LP#1922262
[11:19]  * ogra hands diddledan a pair of earplugs against the moaning ...
[11:19]  * diddledan inserts one into each nostrill
[11:20]  * ogra tikles diddledan to see where they shoot at
[11:20] <ogra> *tickles
[11:20] <diddledan> hahaha
[11:44] <mup> PR snapcraft#3493 closed: cli: rename experimental login environment variable <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3493>
[12:30] <pedronis> pstolowski: hi, I looked at https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10053 again
[12:30] <mup> PR #10053: o/snapstate: helper for getting snaps affected by refresh, define new hook <Needs Samuele review> <Refresh control> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10053>
[12:33] <pstolowski> pedronis: thanks!
[12:42] <pedronis> thank you
[13:11] <zyga> diddledan that's expected sadly
[13:11] <zyga> what is it for you?
[13:13] <diddledan> zyga: the .X11-unix dir on WSL2 is at /mnt/wslg/.X11-unix - they symlink that to /tmp/.X11-unix (it's all in the bug report)
[13:13] <zyga> oh
[13:13] <zyga> interesting
[13:13] <zyga> oh well
[13:13] <zyga> then it's hard to make that work
[13:14] <diddledan> I tried a bind mount, but the snapd bind mount from there results in an empty directory inside the snap world
[13:14] <diddledan> i.e. snapd /tmp/.X11-unix bind-> host /tmp/.X11-unix bind-> /mnt/wslg/.X11-unix
[13:15] <diddledan> seems that a bind mount of a path that is already bind-mounted from elsewhere doesn't propagate that bind mount chain
[13:15] <diddledan> it binds to the underlying directory, not the bind mounted view
[13:49] <zyga> diddledan propagation is a separate topic
[13:49] <zyga> diddledan if you remove the symlink and bind mount it instead: mount --bind /mnt/wslg/.X11-unix /tmp/.X11-unix
[13:49] <zyga> and _then_ start a snap app
[13:49] <zyga> that should work
[13:53] <ijohnson> mvo: the PR you mentioned in the SU that you want reviews for is #10116 right ?
[13:53] <mup> Bug #10116: qgis: new changes from Debian require merging <Ubuntu:Fix Released by cjwatson> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/10116>
[13:53] <mup> PR #10116: gadget: be more flexible with kernel content resolving <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10116>
[13:54] <diddledan> zyga: no, because it it bind mounted again, which is why I'm talking about propagation
[13:54] <zyga> diddledan, it's not bind mounted on the host
[13:54] <zyga> I was suggesting to bind mount it on the host
[13:55] <zyga> then once /tmp/.X11-unix is a real directory, not a symlink
[13:55] <diddledan> that's precisely what I'm telling you won't (does not - I tried it) work
[13:55] <zyga> then that is explicitly (not propagated) bind mounted on snap startup
[13:55] <zyga> what happened when you tried?
[13:55] <diddledan> inside the snap the folder is empty
[13:57] <zyga> can you provide /proc/mountinfo from the host
[13:57] <zyga> and then from snap run --shell
[13:59] <diddledan> there is no /proc/mountinfo
[13:59] <diddledan> there's a /proc/mounts
[14:13] <zyga> diddledan sorry, I meant /proc/self/mountinfo
[14:13] <zyga> it's a per-process view
[14:15] <diddledan> ergh. now it's not failing the same way
[14:16] <diddledan> it's actually able to see X now
[14:16] <diddledan> I hate heisenbugs
[14:17] <diddledan> I wonder how I got it to break before? oh well, you were right, a bind mount seems to fix it
[14:19] <zyga> you had a bind mount after the mount namespace was constructed
[14:19] <zyga> so it was not propagating into it
[14:20] <mvo> ijohnson correct, thanks!
[14:22] <ijohnson> got it, will take a look
[14:59] <mup> PR snapcraft#3494 opened: tests: use candidate for autopkgtests <do-not-merge> <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3494>
[15:15]  * cachio lunch
[15:16] <pedronis> ijohnson: I approved https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10061  you can chat with Alex to see if there's any blocker
[15:16] <mup> PR #10061: interfaces/pwm: add PWM interface <Needs Samuele review> <Created by woodrow-shen> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10061>
[15:16] <ijohnson> pedronis: ack sounds good
[15:20] <mborzecki> and it's snowing again, 3rd time today
[15:51] <zyga> mborzecki yeah
[15:51] <zyga> same here :)
[15:51] <zyga> huge snowflakes
[16:14] <mup> PR snapd#9171 closed: [RFC] config: "virtual" configuration for timezone <Needs Samuele review> <Run nested> <⛔ Blocked> <Created by mvo5> <Closed by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9171>
[18:13]  * cachio afk
[18:28] <mup> Issue classic-snap#34 opened: Classic Dimension for Ubuntu Core 20 <Created by howardcochran> <https://github.com/snapcore/classic-snap/issues/34>
[19:03] <mup> Issue classic-snap#34 closed: Classic Dimension for Ubuntu Core 20 <Created by howardcochran> <Closed by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/classic-snap/issues/34>
[19:45] <mup> PR snapcraft#3495 opened: conda v2 plugin: support for more architectures <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3495>
[23:31] <mup> PR snapd#10117 opened: cmd/snap-bootstrap/initramfs-mounts: write active boot-flags to /run  <Simple 😃> <UC20> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10117>
[23:36] <mup> PR snapd#10118 opened: boot/flags.go: add RunModeRootfs() <Simple 😃> <UC20> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10118>