[00:00] <ghostsan> k thanks for ur time
[00:03] <Duskao> np
[00:18] <Machtin> is there any way to suspend my computer to ram in.. let's say 2 hours.. like shutdown -h 2h, just with suspending to ram instead of shutting down?
[00:21] <Izinucs> Machtin: probably .. maybe with a "suspend" command.. I'm not sure how that's implemented.
[00:24] <aftertaf> I have to say i love linux
[00:24] <aftertaf> just dist-upgraded my webserver with no need to reboot, everthing just restarts :)
[00:25] <marcosRz> guys, I installed the latest kde and plasma keeps crashing, how do I go back?
[00:25] <aftertaf> via ssh, while apt-build world on my quad Phenom II and a 1800kbs net connection
[00:25] <aftertaf> marcosRz: which kde version exactly do you have ?
[00:26] <marcosRz> 4.4
[00:26] <marcosRz> I want to go back to kde 4.3
[00:26] <aftertaf> RC2 ?
[00:26] <marcosRz> yeah
[00:26] <aftertaf> are you using compiz ?
[00:26] <marcosRz> its just broken, the ppa
[00:26] <marcosRz> no
[00:26] <aftertaf> working on mine,
[00:26] <aftertaf> did you have a broken message when installing?
[00:27] <marcosRz> +-
[00:27] <aftertaf> did you apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade?
[00:27] <marcosRz> and I repared and Installed everything
[00:27] <aftertaf> +-, more or less ?
[00:27] <marcosRz> I had a conflit, and I solved
[00:27] <marcosRz> manually
[00:27] <marcosRz> and did apt-get upgrade
[00:27] <marcosRz> not apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:28] <aftertaf> ok. try apt-get -f install to see if anything unconfigured
[00:28] <aftertaf> then dist-upgrade
[00:28] <aftertaf> see if it brings in anything else. Its fine on mypc, 64bit.
[00:28] <marcosRz> I dont want to dist-upgrade
[00:28] <marcosRz> do I have?
[00:28] <marcosRz> Because I have a bunch of ppa on karmic
[00:28] <aftertaf> but kwin crashes with compiz so i have to use gtk4 decorator
[00:28] <aftertaf> run it and see what it says.
[00:29] <aftertaf> you dont have to accept, you can see what it updates
[00:29] <aftertaf> what it proposes
[00:29] <marcosRz> on my propose I have tod l 0
[00:29] <marcosRz> no new pkgs
[00:29] <marcosRz> just some removals
[00:29] <aftertaf> ok
[00:30] <oconnore_> The latest kubuntu will "pop" my speakers frequently, and will occasionally kill my sound, such that i have to use alsa force-reload to get it back. How could I fix this?
[00:30] <marcosRz> so what do I do?
[00:30] <aftertaf> apt-get -f install  say anything?
[00:30] <marcosRz> nah
[00:30] <aftertaf> so packages installed ok, but still a crash
[00:31] <aftertaf> plasma crashes after how long?
[00:31] <marcosRz> plasma crash after I log  in
[00:31] <marcosRz> I jsut get a black screen
[00:31] <aftertaf> ok.
[00:32] <marcosRz> I even deleted my .kde folder thinking it was a personal config
[00:32] <aftertaf> at that point, drop to console Alt F1, login and do a killall plasma-desktop
[00:32] <aftertaf> see if it triggers a reload
[00:33] <aftertaf> and i gather you cant login graphically in any way to run synaptic?
[00:33] <marcosRz> no
[00:33] <aftertaf> hmmm
[00:34] <marcosRz> hmm
[00:35] <marcosRz> I hate (k)ubuntu upgrades
[00:35] <marcosRz> I mean it was so much easier on arch :(
[00:35] <marcosRz> I allways have problems XD
[00:35] <marcosRz> -___-
[00:35] <aftertaf> weird, i dont have one
[00:35] <aftertaf> look in 'man apt-get'
[00:35] <marcosRz> I allways had problems on upgrading Ubuntu
[00:36] <marcosRz> and never on Arch/gentoo
[00:36] <aftertaf> at the section -t --target-release
[00:36] <marcosRz> ...
[00:36] <aftertaf> true its broken sometimes
[00:36] <marcosRz> sometimes?
[00:36] <aftertaf> lol
[00:36] <marcosRz> I like Kubuntu, but I never had this upgrade problems on other distros :3
[00:36] <marcosRz> I just wish upgrade was better/smoother
[00:36] <aftertaf> you could chroot
[00:37] <aftertaf> and uninstall kde 4.4 packages, then remove ppa and update install
[00:37] <aftertaf> best way to fix
[00:37] <aftertaf> get what i mean?
[00:38] <lnx4ver> marcosRz there must be a way to downgrade with apt
[00:38] <aftertaf> apt-get install *package* -t --target-release
[00:39] <aftertaf> that and dpkg-l, a couple of greps and 2 hours typing
[00:39] <aftertaf> :)
[00:39] <marcosRz> gotta love
[00:39] <aftertaf> yeah
[00:39] <aftertaf> try doing that on windows
[00:39] <marcosRz> I'm going back to other distro
[00:39] <marcosRz> seriously
[00:39] <marcosRz> apt is really a joke
[00:39] <aftertaf> it isnt
[00:39] <aftertaf> broken packages are
[00:39] <marcosRz> compared to pacman/emerge
[00:40] <marcosRz> pacman is so sweet
[00:40] <aftertaf> im rebouilding my system entirely right now with apt-build world
[00:40] <aftertaf> to optimise for my quad
[00:40] <marcosRz> I'll go to gentoo
[00:40] <marcosRz> or back to arch
[00:40] <marcosRz> seriously :(
[00:40] <marcosRz> I cant live with this =3
[00:40] <aftertaf> after its a question of preference /ease of use / etc
[00:40] <FloodBotK3> marcosRz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <aftertaf> but we're all the good guys ;)
[00:41] <marcosRz> sometimes, I've to use *buntu on work
[00:41] <aftertaf> to be fair, the 4.4 is a RC
[00:42] <marcosRz> and I'm a kde fan, so I tought why dont I use Kubuntu
[00:42] <aftertaf> and the packages may have an issue...
[00:42] <aftertaf> but final release will be ok
[00:42] <marcosRz> I like to live on bleeding-edge
[00:42] <aftertaf> :)
[00:42] <aftertaf> me too
[00:42] <marcosRz> thats impossible on ubuntu
[00:42] <aftertaf> i break a lot because of me, not because of my choice of distro
[00:42] <marcosRz> its just not made for that
[00:42] <marcosRz> I've never breaked Arch/Gentoo
[00:42] <aftertaf> i manage to fix almost every time. learning curve
[00:43] <aftertaf> thres good and bad
[00:43] <Fanfare> !kdenlive
[00:43] <goingcrazy> guys maybe you can help me before i go totally insane
[00:43] <aftertaf> :)))
[00:43] <marcosRz> seriously aftertaf it's hard to maintain a bleeding edge on Ubuntu
[00:44] <aftertaf> spill the beans
[00:44] <marcosRz> it's just not made for that
[00:44] <aftertaf> marcosRz: true.
[00:44] <aftertaf> i also killed more a debian that way
[00:44] <aftertaf> due to my lack of knowledge
[00:44] <goingcrazy> this is the second time i installed kubuntu this afternoon and after updating and applying all the patchs when system reboot the screen goes totally black
[00:44] <aftertaf> gentoo has kde 4.x too right?
[00:44] <goingcrazy> i know the system is working but i can't switch to any tty
[00:45] <goingcrazy> where do i should look for booting problems? what are the files to look for?
[00:45] <aftertaf> goingcrazy: can you ssh into it? can you drop to recovery console on boot time?
[00:45] <aftertaf> marcosRz: :p i see your point
[00:45] <marcosRz> aftertaf: so I'm going back to Arch
[00:45] <goingcrazy> aftertaf: didn't tryed, i'm running quassel from a live session
[00:46] <lnx4ver> goingcrazy looks like an Xorg problem to me
[00:46] <goingcrazy> man, i swear i'm going nuts ='(
[00:46] <goingcrazy> lnx4ver: yeah, i think the same i use an ati card i know it's not well supported
[00:46] <marcosRz> aftertaf: getting the arch live cd :3
[00:46] <goingcrazy> where are located xorg log files guys?
[00:46] <aftertaf> :)
[00:47] <lnx4ver> /var/log
[00:47] <aftertaf> marcosRz: how do you downgrade with emerge?
[00:47] <marcosRz> /var/log/Xorg
[00:47] <goingcrazy> lnx4ver: tnx i'll see
[00:47] <marcosRz> aftertaf: never needed
[00:47] <marcosRz> aftertaf: with pacman you have two options
[00:47] <lnx4ver> should be something like Xorg.0.log
[00:47] <aftertaf> yeah but if you 'emerge' a buggy version of something?
[00:48] <marcosRz> aftertaf: never done that xD
[00:48] <marcosRz> aftertaf: only needed to downgrade on arch once, and did with arch back machine
[00:48] <marcosRz> pacman is perfect
[00:49] <goingcrazy> (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 1.4.x.y with x.y >= 99.906
[00:49] <goingcrazy> (WW) fglrx(0): could not detect X server version (query_status=-1)
[00:49] <goingcrazy> (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized.
[00:49] <goingcrazy> (WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
[00:49] <goingcrazy> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[00:49] <FloodBotK3> goingcrazy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <goingcrazy> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[00:49] <aftertaf> must toy with gentoo sometime. arch you recommend?
[00:49] <marcosRz> aftertaf: arch is *perfect* seriously :D
[00:49] <aftertaf> ouh . ATI driver issue
[00:49] <marcosRz> hmm
[00:49] <marcosRz> aftertaf: arch is aimed at advanced users :D but it's cool
[00:50] <goingcrazy> aftertaf: yes, i'll boot again into failsafe then run again drvier instaler
[00:50] <aftertaf> goingcrazy: you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[00:50] <goingcrazy> ok, let's do this, thanx guys, you rules, i'm hanging over, hopefully with another nick xD
[00:50] <lnx4ver> good luck
[00:50] <goingcrazy> aftertaf: let me see
[00:51] <aftertaf> goingcrazy: and can you ssh to the machine or not? maybe not installed
[00:51] <aftertaf> otherwise, you know how to chroot?
[00:51] <goingcrazy> aftertaf: don't know how to do that =(
[00:52] <goingcrazy> xorg.conf seems right, i will recompile graphic card drivers for the new kernel
[00:52] <goingcrazy> best!
[00:52] <aftertaf> with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you can specify the driver maybe to have vesa, which will allow you to have X and fix it comfortably :)
[00:53] <aftertaf> try your recompile and come back whatever the issue
[00:57] <aftertaf> does suck when gfx crashes out of the box
[00:57] <aftertaf> i have that more with ATI than nvidia PCs
[00:58] <Freds> Need like major help with wireless on ubuntu pm me if you can help please :)
[00:58] <acidtoi> guys, you *really* don't know how much i love you'll
[00:58] <aftertaf> argh
[00:58] <aftertaf> post away, noone around man ;)
[00:58] <aftertaf> acidtoi:  :) hehe same goes around
[00:58] <acidtoi> just come to sanity, seems i'm not goingcrazy anymore xDD
[00:59] <acidtoi> THAAAAAANNNNNKKKKKSSSSSSSS
[00:59] <aftertaf> acidtoi: hehe nice one dude
[00:59] <acidtoi> :D
[00:59] <acidtoi> you know, now i have my brand new 24" i can really appreciate kde
[00:59] <aftertaf> you said "xorg.conf seems right, i will recompile graphic card drivers for the new kernel"
[00:59] <acidtoi> and i love it
[01:00] <aftertaf> then you reboored :) you did it yourself man ;)
[01:00] <Freds> i cant get wireless working -.-
[01:00] <acidtoi> aftertaf: hahah yeesssss
[01:00] <RumblePure> updating fresh install of kubuntu... 158 bug fixes X-P
[01:00] <aftertaf> :)
[01:00] <RumblePure> x(
[01:00] <aftertaf> no, it evolves
[01:00] <aftertaf> niceone acidtoi: its niceon bigscreen :)
[01:01] <aftertaf> Freds: which version of kubuntu/kde ?
[01:01] <Freds> ./endlife
[01:01] <aftertaf> RumblePure: 1800kbps, i dont mind :)
[01:01] <aftertaf> lol Freds what does work with wireless? widget show anything?
[01:01] <Freds> basicly
[01:01] <RumblePure> 1800kbps.... dude my wireless connection dies haphazardly! :-/
[01:02] <Freds> i have a clue what your talking about :)
[01:02] <aftertaf> RumblePure:  :/
[01:02] <aftertaf> you have or dont have ?
[01:02] <Freds> i downloaded ubuntu to try somthing new out and i cant even get the wireless started
[01:02] <Freds> thats abot all i know :)
[01:02] <aftertaf> bottom right, on task bar, to left of clock, you have icons
[01:02] <Freds> ive been searching forums for the last 10 hours
[01:03] <aftertaf> one of then is the network plasmoid
[01:03] <Freds> and having to switch os's
[01:03] <Freds> just to test things
[01:03] <aftertaf> when you click on it, what do you see
[01:03] <Freds> my wireless is fine on here
[01:03] <acidtoi> aftertaf: just yesterday i had my old trusty LG square 17" Studioworks, beautiful image you know, running Ubuntu o'course, but know with 24" and KDE being so mature as it is i have entered in a new dimension, literally
[01:04] <aftertaf> Freds: a good thig to do, but different systems have differnt features, and linux dont don things for you, whereas windows does them, badly, and doesnt listen to what you even have to say
[01:04] <acidtoi> i hope to  find some time to start collaborating with kubuntu community
[01:04] <aftertaf> 4th dimension ;)
[01:04] <Freds> well i  tell u how far i got
[01:04] <Freds> ive located my network device
[01:04] <Freds> i foudn out what driver i need
[01:04] <aftertaf> ok, Freds so you're on windows now ? :)
[01:04] <Freds> b43 or somthing
[01:04] <acidtoi> it's evident this is a work of love, i it would be cool to give something back, you know
[01:04] <Freds> yea
[01:04] <aftertaf> :)
[01:04] <Freds> i done soem code to try find this driver
[01:05] <Freds> and it said it couldnt find it
[01:05] <aftertaf> ok. any way of cabling up eth0 ?
[01:05] <aftertaf> what is your wifi card?
[01:05] <Freds> erm 1 sec
[01:06] <aftertaf> :)
[01:06] <aftertaf> acidtoi: such a work of love :)
[01:06] <aftertaf> so much i love using it
[01:06] <aftertaf> and it restores my faith in life after a day forced on XP
[01:06] <aftertaf> at work
[01:07] <Freds> wow i just typed out loads then clicked up arrow key
[01:07] <Freds> ./endlife
[01:07] <aftertaf> :)
[01:08] <Freds> windows says "dell wireless 1397 WLAN mini-card"
[01:08] <acidtoi> aftertaf: haha lol what a nighmare
[01:08] <Freds> but it hink its somethign else
[01:08] <acidtoi> *nightmare
[01:08] <aftertaf> :))
[01:08] <aftertaf> Freds: windows does that
[01:08] <aftertaf> it lies ;)
[01:08] <aftertaf> can you boot up with linux and a cabled conenction?
[01:08] <Freds> na :/
[01:09] <acidtoi> i still use virtualized xp when need copy some DVD9 movies =D
[01:09] <Freds> i liek downloaded this thing
[01:09] <Freds> where i coudl run 2 os's
[01:09] <Freds> but got confused
[01:09] <aftertaf> acidtoi: acidrip not do that?
[01:09] <Freds> so rage quit
[01:09] <Freds> virtualbox or somthing
[01:10] <Freds> see i tryed folowing some guide
[01:10] <aftertaf> Freds: ok, and the linux is installed on the virtualbox?
[01:10] <acidtoi> aftertaf: but that way is time consuming and you need to pay some attention. Actually, CloneDVD + AnyDVD do the trick nice :):):)
[01:10] <aftertaf> pff
[01:10] <aftertaf> do it with mencoder
[01:10] <Freds> i couldnt work out how to actually install it on there
[01:11] <aftertaf> so, where did you install? as dualboot on your PC?
[01:11] <Freds> i have ubunto installled on my computer and expected it would just run it
[01:11] <Freds> yea
[01:11] <aftertaf> ok. most of the time it does
[01:11] <aftertaf> When you were on linux, did you find the Network tool? Did it actually see any Access Points, Did you have a wlan0 interface ?
[01:12] <Freds> The thing under admin - > networking?
[01:12] <aftertaf> yeah
[01:13] <Freds> it waasnt there
[01:13] <aftertaf> did you maage to adda  enw connection?
[01:13] <Freds> the actual "networking" wasnt there
[01:13] <Freds> i tryed looking for it to install it
[01:13] <aftertaf> what wasnt there? the admin > networking tool?
[01:13] <Freds> yea
[01:13] <Freds> i tryed looking for it but couldnt find it anywhere
[01:13] <aftertaf> its not called adim, System Settings
[01:13] <aftertaf>           ^^admin
[01:14] <aftertaf> you have that place, and also on the task bar there is an icon
[01:14] <Freds> right what ill do
[01:14] <Freds> ill have a look
[01:14] <Freds> grab some screenshots
[01:14] <Freds> basicly i entered a code
[01:15] <Freds> the ubunto's cmd thing
[01:15] <Freds> and it didnt say wlan0
[01:15] <Freds> when it was ment to
[01:16] <aftertaf> ifconfig ?
[01:16] <Freds> yes i think thats it
[01:16] <Freds> but i think it was somthing like lsip
[01:16] <Freds> or somthing
[01:16] <aftertaf> if wlan0 is not set up, it wont appear there
[01:16] <aftertaf> nomal
[01:16] <aftertaf> +r
[01:17] <Freds> it foudn my netowrk addapter
[01:17] <Freds> when i done some code
[01:17] <Freds> i rly shoudl write these codes down -.-
[01:17] <aftertaf> only the configured and active network connections are shown in ifconfig
[01:17] <aftertaf> :)
[01:17] <aftertaf> dont worry, its new
[01:17] <Freds> lspci
[01:17] <aftertaf> yep
[01:17] <Freds> thats what i wrote
[01:17] <aftertaf> so if it finds youre good to go
[01:18] <Freds> i take ti thats the bit
[01:18] <Freds> that shouls say wlan0
[01:18] <Freds> ah no
[01:18] <Freds> thats iwconfig
[01:19] <Freds> that should say that
[01:19] <Freds> lo        no wireless extensions.
[01:19] <Freds> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[01:19] <Freds> it only said
[01:19] <Freds> ^
[01:19] <FloodBotK3> Freds: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:19] <Freds> :o
[01:20] <Freds> ive also tryed a code which said this
[01:20] <Freds> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[01:20] <Freds> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[01:25] <aftertaf> iwconfig :/
[01:25] <aftertaf> ok, right
[01:26] <aftertaf> if not in iwconfig then bad :/
[01:26] <aftertaf> you download kubuntu 9.10 ?
[01:26] <Freds> ye
[01:26] <aftertaf> shame you dont remember what pspci said
[01:26] <Freds> litteratly downloaded it today
[01:28] <aftertaf> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4310 USB Controller (rev 01)
[01:28] <aftertaf> something lke that?
[01:28] <aftertaf> 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)  or that
[01:29] <Freds> yea the top one
[01:30] <Freds> bwait
[01:30] <Freds> ill go copyt and paste it all
[01:32] <aftertaf> you need to be able to download with cable connection to fix it
[01:33] <aftertaf> the broadcom people are bad at releasing information on their cards and drivers are lacking
[01:35] <aftertaf> shame, your chipset is screwy on linux :/
[01:36] <aftertaf> you could buy a wireless usb card until the driver is written
[01:36] <aftertaf> which dont help you much tonight
[01:38] <aftertaf> lol
[01:38] <aftertaf> hes gone and im talking away
[01:38] <lnx4ver> lol
[01:50] <aftertaf> :)
[01:51] <aftertaf> bedtime
[01:51] <kaddi> gn8
[01:53] <aftertaf> :D
[01:55] <Freds> acidtoi
[01:55] <Freds> where did the other dude go?
[02:14] <fortini> boa noite
[02:17] <scunizi> is that portugese?
[02:19] <kaddi> I'd think so and the ip resolves to brazil, so i guess yes
[02:19] <acidtoi> scunizi: yep
[02:20] <scunizi> acidtoi: very close to italian and spanish.. interesting.
[02:21] <acidtoi> scunizi: pero claro! los tres tienen raices latinas
[02:21] <scunizi> yep
[02:21] <Krezkey> Hello folks
[02:21] <scunizi> !hello
[02:22] <kaddi> or french for that metter ;)
[02:22] <scunizi> kaddi: errrr
[02:22] <acidtoi> scunizi: in fact, they're all the same adapted to it's own people/territory. When Rome falls, all the troops that where once posted to keep the lands merged with locals and then is how spanish, portuguese, french, italian (toscano?) born
[02:22] <kaddi> matter :p
[02:23] <Krezkey> I lost my wallpaper selection in the desktop settings.Anyone have a idea how to get it back
[02:24] <scunizi> acidtoi: I lived in naples for a couple of years.. napolitano is a weird mix of a lot of languages.. mainly because it was/is a major port town... va bene = ah boo in napolitano
[02:24] <acidtoi> by the way, italianas are the most beautiful women on earth, period, there are beauties everywhere but italian girls and italian food is soooo much the joyness of life :D:D:D:D
[02:25] <Daughain> Until they hit 30 and grow a bigger mustache than I got. :P
[02:25] <scunizi> acidtoi: mos women there .. almost all the food.. for women well Euro/asians are "da kine"
[02:25] <acidtoi> scunizi: yeah and don't forget they were invaded by muslims too, that's way they're dark skinned in contrast with northern italian
[02:25] <scunizi> yep
[02:41] <Krezkey> anyone know how to get the wallpaper selection back in the desktop settings window
[03:14] <Krezkey> anyone know how to get the wallpaper selection back in the list on the desktop setting menu?
[03:45] <xps> anyone know what causes my tarball packages to give me a "configure: creating ./config.status config.status: error: cannot find input file" error when I try and build them from MonoDevelop source?
[04:21] <anthony_> hi there!
[04:21] <anthony_> anybody can help with gui?
[04:22] <anthony_> i have ATI Radeon HD 3870x2 an na workin...any body slove it? or it hopeles?
[04:26] <anthony_> halooo  anybody help please
[04:26] <Guest83742> what up
[04:27] <anthony_> ATI RADEON HD 3870x2 na workin at all or i have a chance?
[04:29] <anthony_> so?
[04:33] <baron86> hello there... I am new to kubuntu and i face two major problems here. The first is with amarok that crashes after 5 seconds and the other is with one of my plasmoids which cannot find the pythonEngine
[04:34] <baron86> I do want to solve the Amarok thing if its possible... Thanx
[04:39] <tim> anyone ever had a part of kde crash while copying a large amount of data?
[04:39] <tim> it was showing me progress in the bottom right hand corner of screen
[04:39] <tim> but isnt anymore, but the hdd is getting fuller, so i know its still copyin
[04:43] <baron86> tim i had problem with a FAT32 formated disc.. is yours FAT32?
[04:47] <Nafri> i'm trying to execute a bin file and getting this error-> tail: cannot open `+309' for reading: No such file or directory
[04:47] <Nafri> any idea?
[04:55] <Izinucs> Nafri: how are you trying to execute it?
[04:56] <Nafri> chmod +x jmf-2_1_1e-linux-i586.bin
[04:56] <Nafri> ./jmf-2_1_1e-linux-i586.bin
[04:56] <lawrence> hi. i am sorta new to kubuntu and kde.  i think i need help
[04:57] <Izinucs> Nafri: does it need root to run? or are you trying to install in userspace?
[04:57] <Nafri> 'm running it as root
[04:58] <lawrence> im using  Kubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 on the  acer aspire one zg5
[04:58] <Izinucs> Nafri: have you tried it with sudo sh ./<filename> ?
[04:59] <Nafri> ummm no... lemme try
[05:00] <lawrence> can i  use the built in webcam. ubuntu netbook karmic used the cheese app, but  i dont see anything like it in kubuntu
[05:00] <Izinucs> Nafri: working?
[05:00] <Nafri> Unpacking...
[05:00] <Nafri> tail: cannot open `+309' for reading: No such file or directory
[05:01] <Izinucs> Nafri: interesting.. is that package available in the repos?
[05:01] <Nafri> actualy it has command "tail +309 $0 > $outname"
[05:02] <Nafri> ok it worked i modified the bin file and inserted -n with tail
[05:03] <Nafri> tail -n +309 $0 > $outname
[05:03] <Izinucs> Nafri: cool.. good luck with it.. :)
[05:03] <Nafri> thx )
[05:03] <Izinucs> sure
[05:05] <lawrence> is there a program  to use  a built in webcam in kubuntu netbook remix?
[05:23] <isaac_> Hello all, I was under the impression a 3rd RC was coming out for SC 4.4. Any news?
[05:26] <isaac_> I found the answer<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:02] <Guest5235> hello
[06:02] <Guest5235> anyone is available to help
[06:04] <Guest5235> is anyone here ???
[06:20] <turtle^s0up> hi, is the Kubuntu plasma indicator widget important? can i remove it and have KDE's notification applet do it's job?
[06:45] <Duskao> can anyone help me install kde-cdemu from kde-apps.org?
[06:45] <Duskao> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+CDEmu+Manager?content=99752
[06:55] <Seaan> Question - I haven't set up a server or anything just wondering about them cuz it is what im going to school for - I was thinking about trying to run kubuntu on an old computer just to mess with and my question is if im running linux for a server and create a user group to log in from other computers... those computers can be windows right?
[06:56] <maco> sure
[06:56] <maco> PuTTY works fine on Windows to SSH in
[06:56] <Seaan> cool
 whats the terminal command to configure wine
[07:19] <rmathews> is there a background process running update?  I need to use apt-get to install something and I can't get the lock ... what can I do before trying to rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
 whats the terminal command to configure wine
[07:25] <eitreach> When I try installing Kubuntu, and the installer is about to start, I get a message about not being able to remove conflicting files. What do I do?
[07:32] <P_ART> halo sory bad english < i nead help , instaled kubuntu , and when i use some programs adn minimized ... where is it i cant find it new in linux can sombody help me
[07:33] <Duskao> P_ART: so after it's minimized it's gone?
[07:33] <P_ART> jes
[07:33] <P_ART> i cant fine nowere
[07:34] <P_ART> yes
[07:35] <Duskao> P_ART: right click and go to panel options then add widgets and tell me which ones have red lines next to them.
[07:36] <Duskao> you have to make sure you have "Task Manager" widget running.
[07:36] <P_ART> sory  im now in win platform whait il reload kubuntu ant connect again
[07:37] <Duskao> ok
[07:43] <Duskao> you there?
[07:46] <eitreach_away> When I try installing Kubuntu, I am greeted with a message about not being able to remove conflicting files as I try to finalize the install. What can I do to fix this?
[07:56] <P_ART> sori but i cant load kubuntu ir black screan so i wil instal new one. maybe you  can tel me that nead to do  that i can sea minimized programs like in win platforms?
[07:57] <P_ART> sori but i cant load kubuntu ir black screan so i wil instal new one. maybe you  can tel me what nead to do  that i can see minimized programs like in win platforms?
[07:57] <P_ART> sory bad english :D
[07:58] <jussi01> P_ART: what is your native language?
[07:58] <P_ART> lithuania
[07:59] <jussi01> !lt | P_ART
[07:59] <P_ART> aisku :D
[08:00] <P_ART> aciu
[08:02] <eitreach_away> When I try to install Kubuntu, I get this message: "The installer needs to remove operating system files from the install target, but was unable to do so. The install cannot continue" - what can I do to resolve this?
[08:05] <bentob0x> where do I get an overview of my computer's ram, cpu, HD, etc ?
[08:07] <tsimpson> bentob0x: KMenu -> System -> KInfoCenter
[08:08] <bentob0x> it's not in there tsimpson
[08:08] <bentob0x> using 9.04
[08:08] <tsimpson> install the package "kinfocenter" then
[08:08] <tsimpson> it should show up then
[08:09] <bentob0x> should be installed by default I believe
[08:09] <bentob0x> its a bit logical to want to know what's in your computer isn't it?
[08:11] <tsimpson> it's probably not  because we have no room for it on the CD
[08:12] <bentob0x> ok I understand that but knowing what's in your computer is, to me, more important that any other optional software you might have on the desktop CD
[08:12] <bentob0x> unless there is a quick/short overview that doesn't use kinfocenter
[08:12] <Duskao> anyone know how I can have my second HD auto mount apon startup?
[08:13] <tsimpson> I'm pretty sure the lshw command is pre-installed
[08:13] <khaije|selen> How's kde in karmic, pretty smooth?
[08:13] <bentob0x> Duskao: see fstab
[08:13] <Duskao> bentob0x: ??? what you mean like man fstab?
[08:14] <rmathews> `/quit
[08:14] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: is it an NTSF hard drive?
[08:14] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: nope, Fat32...
[08:14] <bentob0x> lshw works nice tsimpson, maybe now just a little KDE interface on this would be nice
[08:14] <Duskao> would love to change it, but got too much stuff on it.
[08:14] <bentob0x> Duskao: yes, or google it
[08:14] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: /etc/fstab is the configuration file for your hard drives and partitions
[08:15] <Duskao> mmk
[08:15] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: it should automatically mount it
[08:15] <bentob0x> you can specify in that file what you want to get mounted at boot time etc
[08:15] <tsimpson> !fstab
[08:15] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: look on the leftside of Dolphin
[08:15] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: nope, I have to click on it in dolphin to mount it
[08:15] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: it's there, just not mounted on start up
[08:15] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: everytime?
[08:15] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: every time
[08:16] <bentob0x> yes, you need to specify it in /etc/fstab
[08:16] <Duskao> it's not even showing it there.
[08:17] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:17] <Duskao> you are a wealth of information turtle :D
[08:18] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: we need a UI tool similar to ntfs-config on Gnome Ubuntu for KDE
[08:19] <Duskao> totally
[08:22] <Duskao> ok, so since it's my second HD I would want to put /dev/hda2 /media/data1 vfat defaults,user,exec,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000 0 0
[08:23] <khaije|selen> So what do ppl use to manage wlan connections in karmic? In jaunty I needed to use gnome's networkmanager applet...
[08:26] <turtle^s0up> khaije|selen: a lot of people use wcid
[08:27] <turtle^s0up> khaije|selen: i found it works better than knetworkmanager
[08:28] <khaije|selen> Thx turtle^s0up, ill read up on that
[08:28] <turtle^s0up> np
[08:29] <turtle^s0up> khaije|selen: ops, wrong spelling it's actually "wicd" http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[08:29] <turtle^s0up> sorry
[08:33] <khaije|selen> Np, this has come a long way since I last looked at it
[08:34] <khaije|selen> So I shouldn't bother with nm or netman and just go with this?
[08:34] <turtle^s0up> yes, you can give it a try. it's in the Kubuntu repos
[08:35] <turtle^s0up> khaije|selen: but it will uninstall your current nm like knetworkmanager if you have it installed
[08:36] <khaije|selen> mkay, that's fine w me, ty
[08:38] <turtle^s0up> np
[09:54] <manuelf> alo
[10:32] <nascentmind> hi. I have upgraded from hardy to karmic. now kde crashes on startup after it shows the splash screen. how can i fix this?
[10:34] <petsounds> nascentmind, no plasma-desktop?
[10:34] <nascentmind> petsounds, no. i tried with the new user. still it crashes and goes back to kdm
[10:34] <nascentmind> petsounds, i can run kde apps on gnome though. not sure what's the problem with plasma
[10:36] <amol_> hi..
[10:36] <nascentmind> petsounds, how can i check the logs? i checked .xesession-errors and syslog. cannot find where its crashing.
[10:37] <petsounds> nascentmind, i had the same problem like you before. can you run plasma-desktop manually?
[10:37] <nascentmind> petsounds, how can i do that?
[10:38] <petsounds> nascentmind, type plasma-desktop in konsole
[10:39] <petsounds> and also check for plasma-desktop in ~config/autostart
[10:40] <lup0> Anyone know how I can bind selecting a specific window/software and then some keypresses to one button? For example to be able to bind spotify next song to one keypress
[10:40] <nascentmind> petsounds, awesome i get the tray
[10:41] <nascentmind> petsounds, i am installing kde-workspace-dbg to check what errors i get.
[11:13] <dfaure> do you know where I can find a libssh-dev >= 0.4.0 for karmic?   kio_sftp require sit
[11:21] <tumaix> dfaure: heh, you're looking for a libssh-dev, I'm looking for a unbroke Qt.
[11:21] <tumaix> dfaure: the QtScript that came with 9.10 + kde 4.4 ppa is broken =/
[11:35] <dfaure> tumaix: I compile my own Qt, no such problem ;)
[11:36] <tumaix> dfaure: I will start to do the same
[11:37] <nascentmind> hi. I have upgraded from hardy to karmic. now kde crashes on startup after it shows the splash screen. how can i fix this? I can start plasma desktop manually.
[11:38] <dfaure> nascentmind: look into ~/.xsession-errors (e.g. after ssh'ing from another computer) to find out what's happening
[11:39] <nascentmind> dfaure, tried that last time. not getting anything useful.
[11:39] <dfaure> if you pastebin it, maybe I can find the proble
[11:39] <dfaure> +m
[11:40] <nascentmind> dfaure, after the crash i start up in gnome. does the errors get erased?
[11:40] <dfaure> yes I'm afraid so
[11:40] <nascentmind> i have installed kde-workspace-dbg also. does it log anywhere else?
[11:41] <dfaure> you have to make a copy of the file in a text login,or to start a failsafe session (just an xterm), or to use ssh/sftp
[11:41] <dfaure> -dbg is for debug symbols in gdb, that's unrelated.
[11:41] <nascentmind> it crashes and lands in kdm again. so will it delete the xsession-errors?
[11:41] <sena> i can not upgrade klibc-utils and libklibc on my hardy 8.04 x86
[11:41] <sena> i get kernel panic smth like not syncing
[11:42] <dfaure> nascentmind: no
[11:42] <nascentmind> ok. i have kdm. i login. kde crashes and lands back to kdm. after that should i start a failsafe session?
[11:42] <dfaure> yes
[11:42] <sena> anyone awere of this problem
[11:42] <nascentmind> dfaure, ok will do
[11:43] <sena> lol my kdm does not work too
[11:43] <dfaure> nascentmind: then do  "  cp .xsession.errors kde-errors"
[11:53] <nascentmind> dfaure, i captured the errors. not finding anything suspicious
[11:54] <nascentmind> dfaure, should i paste the errors?
[11:54] <nascentmind> sorry the log.
[11:54] <dfaure> yes (not here; in a pastebin)
[11:55] <nascentmind> dfaure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/366785/
[11:57] <nascentmind> dfaure, anything suspicious?
[11:58] <dfaure> no, looks truncated.
[11:58] <dfaure> maybe use kdebugdialog and enable all output
[11:58] <nascentmind> dfaure, when it crashes and comes to kdm if i open an xterm it overwrites the log.
[11:59] <nascentmind> dfaure, so i am going to the console while it loads and then do a copy.
[11:59] <nascentmind> and then come back to X
[11:59] <dfaure> do that after it comes back to kdm, not while it loads
[11:59] <dfaure> it's the startup of the session (even failsafe, apparently) which overwrites the log.
[11:59] <dfaure> not the crash
[12:00] <nascentmind> ok will do again.
[12:03] <Trouble> My kdm is broken as well! When I login, I'm dumped back to kdm after a second!
[12:09] <nascentmind> dfaure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/366795/
[12:09] <nascentmind> dfaure, still seems like a black box but atleast the crash i captured
[12:10] <dfaure> I wonder if krandr is crashing Xorg....
[12:10] <dfaure> in any case this is definitely Xorg crashing
[12:11] <nascentmind> dfaure, is it because of xgl string or something?
[12:11] <dfaure> no idea
[12:11] <nascentmind> dfaure, how do you know its krandr?
[12:11] <dfaure> there's much XRandROutputs debug just before the xorg crash (which has effects from line 105)
[12:12] <dfaure> ah I say krandr, but it's called kephal nowadays
[12:12] <dfaure> cf line 60
[12:12] <dfaure> try renaming kephald?
[12:13] <nascentmind> dfaure, can i disable it loading?
[12:17] <nascentmind> dfaure, where can i find the daemon?
[12:19] <dfaure> nascentmind: I suppose you have a /usr/bin/kephald ?
[12:20] <nascentmind> dfaure, no its not present there.
[12:20]  * dfaure notes that he came here for a libssh but is going to have to compile it himself ;)
[12:20] <dfaure> nascentmind: /usr/sbin maybe?
[12:20] <dfaure> I don't have it here, self-compiled kde.
[12:21] <nascentmind> nope
[12:21] <dfaure> oh I see, it's a kded module
[12:21] <nascentmind> dfaure, doing a find
[12:21] <dfaure> no, it's /usr/lib/kde4/kded_kephal.so
[12:23] <nascentmind> ok renamed
[12:23] <nascentmind> will restart
[12:30] <nascentmind> dfaure, still crashes.
[12:30] <dfaure> damn.
[12:30] <dfaure> with less output about RandR, right?
[12:31] <nascentmind> yes
[12:31] <nascentmind> shouldn't it be? :)
[12:31] <dfaure> yes; just making sure the renaming worked ;-)
[12:31] <nascentmind> --> could not access kephald, falling back to QDesktopWidget
[12:32] <dfaure> ok. so Xorg crashes for another reason, but I don't know how to find that reason
[12:34] <nascentmind> should i uninstall kdeworkspace?
[12:34] <dfaure> you would have no kde desktop anymore, if you did that
[12:35] <nascentmind> dfaure, hmm. but it wasn't enabled by default when i was installing kubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <dfaure> which package, exactly?
[12:36] <nascentmind> kubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <nascentmind> and the workspace i think is kdebase-workspace
[12:38] <shankly_> hi all, the bios on my pc see a sata hd, but fdisk don't
[12:38] <shankly_> any ideas?
[12:56] <timo> hello
[12:56] <timo> my sound dont work can everybody help me please
[13:09] <Kompany> hi, i want to download the latest chromium build, which map should i open? 	chromium-linux-reliability/         or            chromium-rel-arm/          or           chromium-rel-linux-64/          or          chromium-rel-linux-chromiumos/             or                chromium-rel-linux/       ???
[13:17] <Kolia> Kompany: huh?
[13:17] <Kolia> it's chromium-browser iirc
[13:17] <Kompany> ?
[13:17] <Kolia> you need to add the PPA to get daily build of it
[13:18]  * Kolia wonders if we are talking of the same thing :)
[13:18] <Kompany> but there are like 10 builds per day
[13:37] <dubey> hi all
[13:48] <lyhana8_> hi there, why does kde apps doesn’t support compose key ?
[13:48] <lyhana8_> while gnome ones do.
[13:50] <kaddi> hi, is FF 3.6 coming to karmic or do we need to install PPAs for it?
[13:50] <hateball> It's a new version, and as such will not come to Karmic
[13:51] <kaddi> is there going to be a seperate package like for Firefox 3.5 in jaunty?
[13:51] <ferret_> Hi, I'm having some trouble connecting to a WPA Enterprise wireless network in kubuntu 9.4.  It doesn't seem like it really tries to connect... the box comes up in the corner saying "Connecting to <network>...", but looking in dmesg and iwconfig and such, it's like it isn't actually trying at all
[13:59] <kaddi> hateball: is there a ppa for FF 3.6 then?
[14:00] <hateball> kaddi: mozilla-daily I think
[14:01] <kaddi> thx, i'll have to rethink my longing for 3.6 if it's a daily build. :p
[14:01] <kaddi> thx :)
[14:05] <dubey> i want to install Reliance Netconnection on my laptop
[14:06]  * ferret_ looks in the syslog
[14:06] <ferret_> Getting errors about "connection was not provided by any settings service"
[14:06] <dubey> but gives me error : The PPP daemon has died: pppd options error (exit code = 2)
[14:08] <kaddi> ferret_: I have come to the conclusion that internet works best when you uninstall network-manager and install wicd instead
[14:09] <terran4000> Hey everyone. Does any know why docky is extremely laggy (after a short time) in the new KDE 4.4?
[14:12] <Kompany> whats the best file archiver for linux?
[14:12] <Tm_T> !best
[14:12] <Kompany> it needs to make and open rar and zip
[14:13] <terran4000> Any use docky and have lag problems with it?
[14:13] <terran4000> *any one
[14:13] <Tm_T> Kompany: any archiver works, but in KDE you typically use Ark
[14:13] <Kompany> no sorry
[14:13] <Kompany> tm_T, can Ark make rar files of the same quality as WinRAR?
[14:13] <Kompany> and also open them?
[14:14] <Kompany> and can it also make zip files of the same quality as 7Zip or so?
[14:14] <Kompany> and ofcourse also open them
[14:14] <Tm_T> I have no idea, but it can use rar and 7zip so should
[14:14] <_nix_> hey all, is there a way to disable document history in KDE apps?
[14:54] <Omar87> Hi alll
[14:54] <Omar87> all*
[14:55] <Omar87> I am trying to run kubuntu-firefox installer to install Firefox 3.6, but I keep getting the following error: "RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v7.0 but the PyKDE4.kdecore module requires API v6.0
[14:55] <Omar87> "
[14:55] <Omar87> What should I do?
[15:04] <mudassar> Hello, using samba I have shared a folder, I want to access it from windows XP and OpenSolaris, for the time being can somebody tell me how to do that from OpenSolaris ?
[15:05] <mudassar> I shared it from Kubuntu 9.04
[15:06] <kubian> mudassar: try OpenSolaris IRC
[15:06] <Omar87> kubian: Hi
[15:06] <gonnatry> hi, im gonna try kubuntu, but i have some questions
[15:07] <Omar87> I am trying to run kubuntu-firefox installer to install Firefox 3.6, but I keep getting the following error: "RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v7.0 but the PyKDE4.kdecore module requires API v6.0
[15:07] <Omar87> What should I do?
[15:08] <kubian> Omar87: open konsole and then sudo apt-get install firefox
[15:10] <timo> terran4000:  i have a problem with my sound
[15:10] <timo> terran4000:  ups how are you -.-
[15:12] <mudassar> some post says about giving "your network" in workgroup or give "mshome" .... what does it mean by "your network" ?
[15:12] <mudassar> is it the IP address or what ?
[15:12] <timo> today i have buy nex speakers and when i start my pc  play the pc a melodie
[15:13] <timo> when i go to youtube and play a video  dont come sound
[15:13] <timo> knows evrybody why
[15:13] <kubian> Omar87: when you are done do sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-firefox-installer
[15:14] <timo> do you mean me
[15:14] <bentob0x> what would the reason be for my ALT+F2 little 'run' window to turn into a gnome-style window instead of the KDE 4.3.x window?
[15:17] <timo> i need help with my sound
[15:17] <timo> hello everbody here to help me please
[15:18] <Omar87> kubian: that didn't work. I'm still at 3.5.7
[15:18] <kubian> timo: do you get sound from amarok?
[15:18] <maco> are you using konqueror? it needs an extra plugin to make flash have sound...
[15:18] <timo> no
[15:18] <kubian> Omar87: which kubuntu version you have?
[15:19] <Omar87> kubian: Karmic
[15:19] <timo> only when i start the pc and when i go to system manager and then to multimedia the test sound you know this
[15:19] <kubian> 3.6 has not been backported yet. only in lucid
[15:19] <timo> maco: yes this is my browser
[15:20] <timo> wich extra pligin
[15:20] <kubian> Omar87: if you want 3.6 u need to add mozillateam ppa
[15:20] <timo> maco: is this a paket to instal??
[15:20] <Omar87> kubian: I did that.
[15:20] <maco> yes
[15:20] <maco> im looking for its name
[15:21] <timo> thank you
[15:21] <timo> without sound is not funny
[15:22] <kubian> omar87: so what are the versions coming up when you do sudo aptitude search firefox?
[15:24] <Omar87> kubian: yeah, 3.6 is there.
[15:24] <kubian> is it installed?
[15:24] <kubian> if the first 2 letters are ii
[15:24] <kubian> not pp
[15:24] <kubian> in the first column
[15:25] <Omar87> kubian: I have one 'i' next to Firefox 3.6
[15:26] <kubian> so it means it's installed. do u have other versions installed?
[15:26] <maco> timo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[15:26] <Omar87> kubian: yes, Firefox 3.5
[15:26] <Omar87> 3.5.7
[15:27] <kubian> do sudo apt-get purge firefox-3.5
[15:27] <kubian> also the branding
[15:28] <GP40MC> !ops
[15:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[15:28] <kubian> Omar87: I suggest you do sudo apt-get purge all the firefox that are installed amd then reinstall firefox
[15:28] <gnomefreak> GP40MC: ?
[15:28] <GP40MC> im a big shot
[15:29] <Omar87> kubian: Okay! Done!
[15:29] <timo> i go of this side
[15:30] <kubian> Omar87: also if you are running firefox from your favorite, remove it and then re-add it from the network menu
[15:30] <Omar87> kubian: Thanks very much, :D
[15:30] <timo> but i dont know what to do
[15:30] <kubian> Omar87: no problem..glad to be of help
[15:30] <Omar87> kubian: Yeah, this has been taken care of automatically. :D
[15:30] <Omar87> kubian: Thanks again. ^^
[15:31] <timo> maco:  i dont know what i have to do
[15:31] <timo> maco: please explain me step by step
[15:31] <kubian> timo: do you have sound with other apps?
[15:31] <timo> no onli when i start the pc
[15:32] <kubian> ins systemsettings->multimedia tell me what sound card is available
[15:32] <timo> i think thats the welcome musik
[15:32] <timo> ok one min please
[15:33] <EMD60> Kubuntu likes it up the ass
[15:33] <EMD60> !ops
[15:35] <kubian> timo: do you have amarok?
[15:35] <timo> pule audio\ .and ensoniq  audio pci ens1370 (es1370 dac2\adc)#1
[15:36] <timo> yes but amarock says he dont play anithink
[15:36] <kubian> timo: the ensonic is the first?
[15:36] <timo> no pulse audio is the first
[15:37] <kubian> mahe ensonic the first.  select it and there is a 'defer' button
[15:37] <kubian> make it default
[15:37] <kubian> then there is a 'test ' button
[15:38] <timo> yes the test button play a sound
[15:39] <kubian> ok..i have to ask you.. is this  a pure kubuntu? not  kde install in ubuntu?
[15:39] <timo> what the meaning off default
[15:39] <kubian> default card. it should be the first on the list
[15:39] <timo> where can i see
[15:39] <m0w1> timo: go to the mixer..    just click on the volume.. choose mixer.. and check so the pcm channel is not down at the lowest volume
[15:41] <timo> m0w1: there is all ok
[15:41] <timo> max volume
[15:43] <kubian> ok timo i'll let m)w1 help u
[15:45] <timo> what can i make now
[15:45] <timo> kubian: what can i make now
[15:48] <timo> it is so kompliziert
[15:48] <timo> komplikatet
[15:49] <timo> kubian:  what can i make now
[15:49] <Black^Oprah> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0665/2441_c38e.gif THIS
[15:56] <kaddi_> !intel
[15:57] <Black^Oprah> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-WnrmCHibEc
[16:24]  * ferret_ finds https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/334052 ... guess that means will have to update it to 9.10
[16:32] <jimmy51_> i've got a buddy trying o install kubuntu instead of win7.  during the install when he tries to partition his HDD he keeps getting a ext3 partition creation failed message.   it's a sata 160GB hdd.  is there a known solution for this?  (the drive is good for sure)
[16:34] <rethus> i wonder, firefox has ovver 24o MB memmory-using... why is this so much?
[16:38] <avihay> jimmy51_: you can partition the folders manually using the live cd
[16:41] <jimmy51_> avihay: nope.  he just got it to work by switching from AHCI to safe IDE
[16:42] <acidtoi> after spending all yesterday (sunday) fighting with kubuntu, installing and installing over again, i find it a bit -i'm being ironic- buggy. As i'm not a longitme kde user in fact i don't know which is more buggy, kde4 or kubuntu as a whole.
[16:43] <acidtoi> Finally, i managed to install it and make it work properly here... gosh! no other distro gave me so much headaches never. But, if i like ubuntu userland plus kde i think i must shutup my mouth and start searching on how to make kubuntu run well.
[16:45] <acidtoi> i know kubuntu is officially unsuported, and i think with a little of help from canonical kubuntu could be the very best kde4 distro in the wild.
[16:46] <acidtoi> so, so much so far y love Kubuntu =D
[16:47] <ilumi> yeah, they should use kde4 as default , not gnome
[16:49] <acidtoi> ilumi: he dude, well, you know, i have had somewhat a very bad attitude towards kde4 ever and even more since i fully switched to linux, that's some 1 and half ago, but you know what? I recently buyed a 24" wide monitor and i can now appreciate KDE4 in it's full glory: IT RULES
[16:50] <acidtoi> i still fill kde4 a bit more canned than gnome, you know, lot of things premade and so on. i think gnome has a lot more flexibility, at least my own experience in all this time
[16:50] <acidtoi> and besides, i don't think kde4 can show it's glory on a normal monitor
[16:51] <acidtoi> time to launch, see ya'll :D
[17:43] <acidtoi> i have this issue with latest kubuntu (fully updated+upgraded with standard repositories): every time y reboot KDM special effects are deactivated. In order to don't have to press shit+alt+f12 every time to get composition run i added "kwin --replace" in the autostart section
[17:44] <acidtoi> however i think this is not the best way to achieve this, any help on how to make remember kwin to run composite after reboot? tnx!
[17:51] <lnx4ver> acidtoi maybe you have something wrong in your .kde settings folder
[17:51] <acidtoi> lnx4ver: hi, what i'm supposed to look for?
[17:53] <lnx4ver> acidtoi I don't know exactly and can't help too much on that specific issue since I'm using compiz for my effects but I've seen problem after update in kde coming from my .kde in home directory
[17:54] <iconmefisto> acidtoi: in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc look for the [Compositing] section. you should have Enabled=true in that section
[17:54] <acidtoi> lnx4ver: i've found kwin -kde4 shipping windows manager- config file, kwinrc, and everything looks fine in, since Composition=Yes :P may be something to do with ATI? grr
[17:55] <acidtoi> iconmefisto: hi! yeah already checked it and everything is okay
[17:55] <lnx4ver> acidtoi often when this happen and do not find a solution I just rename my .kde folder and login logout
[17:55] <acidtoi> lnx4ver: ok, will try it
[17:55] <lnx4ver> hum, I doubt it to be an ATI problem
[17:57] <acidtoi> well, to log out
[17:58] <iconmefisto> acidtoi: also check powerdevil settings and make sure no profile is set to turn off compositing
[18:12] <acidtoi> "But that is not a problem: kcontrol is shipped with kubuntu and can be started from the commandline" is that true?
[18:14] <lnx4ver> acidtoi I dont have it
[18:15] <lnx4ver> acidtoi do you mean systemsettings
[18:15] <acidtoi> oh my, shame on me i'm sorry,there should be first:  Most visible hack is the settings manager that shows less options than the original kde control center
[18:15] <iconmefisto> kcontrol is kde3 afaik
[18:15] <acidtoi> lnx4ver: yes!
[18:15] <acidtoi> iconmefisto: ok, good to know =D
[18:31] <nnvara> alo?
[18:32] <nnvara> alguien que hable español?
[18:34] <genii-around> !es
[18:52] <tony32> anyone know how to change clipboard options?
[18:56] <jussi01> tony32: right click on the clipper icon in the tray, then configure klipper
[18:58] <tony32> ok but i don't see an option to save between closed windows
[19:00] <tony32> i exit a program and clipboard for it is not saved
[19:02] <gonnatry> im gonna switch to kubuntu, so i need a replacer for msn, i found emesene, so i wanna try it out on windows, i installed it, but it doesnt start when i click it :S
[19:03] <jussi01> tony32: I dont know if your version has it, but I have an option like that in lucid
[19:03] <jussi01> gonnatry: kopete, amsn
[19:03] <gonnatry> jussi01, i wanna try emesene
[19:04] <daskreech> gonnatry: kmess
[19:04]  * jussi01 doesnt have any knowledge about emesene
[19:04] <gonnatry> whats the best alternative for msn on kubuntu?
[19:04] <EagleScreen> kmess
[19:04] <gonnatry> it doesnt have to come preinstalled, i can install another one
[19:05] <EagleScreen> Kubunto comes with Kopete for MSN and other protocols
[19:05] <EagleScreen> you also have kmess and amsn available to install
[19:06] <gonnatry> why?
[19:06] <EagleScreen> gonnatry: why what?
[19:07] <hrdcore0x1a4> Can anyone help: My network interface wlan0 cant scan
[19:07] <EagleScreen> hrdcore0x1a4: which model?
[19:07] <tony32> i got klipper. that helped. now firefox is the issue. it only wants to paste what's in firefox . i guess that's the extensions fault
[19:08] <fire`lalala> gonnatry: kopete is great ... but it seems, that kmess has a lot of msn specific features kopete lacks
[19:08] <gonnatry> EagleScreen, why should i also have kmess and amsn availabe to install?
[19:08] <fire`lalala> gonnatry: you may choose between kopete, kmess and amsn
[19:08] <mutant> Hello from Ukraine !
[19:08] <jimmy51_> I officially submit my vote for remove the 'K' from the beginning of all of the KDE apps
[19:08] <fire`lalala> depending on what you like best
[19:08] <gonnatry> firelalala, why not not emesene if i may ask?
[19:08] <jimmy51_> as a dyslexic, it's just oKnfusing and Kannoying :)
[19:09] <EagleScreen> also emesene
[19:09] <gonnatry> jimmy51_, i agree that its a bit annoying have K in front of everything
[19:09] <hrdcore0x1a4> Realtek 8172 sorry i was reading other chats
[19:09] <hrdcore0x1a4> I have the native linux drivers installed and it is recong. as wlan0
[19:09] <hrdcore0x1a4> but iwscan returns nothing
[19:10] <mutant> Somebody recomend me please good php/html editor
[19:10] <hrdcore0x1a4> mutant: netbeans
[19:10] <hrdcore0x1a4> mutant: it should be in repos
[19:10] <jimmy51_> gonnatry: yeah it is.  it takes me about 15-20 seconds to find an app, sometimes when i even already know its name
[19:11] <gonnatry> yeah
[19:11] <gonnatry> u need to rename every app lol
[19:11] <hrdcore0x1a4> BTW the 8172 is aka 8192se in windows and ppl recommend using that linux driver from realtek.  That is the driver i installed
[19:11] <mutant> thnx !
[19:11] <hrdcore0x1a4> np
[19:12] <daskreech> hi mutant
[19:12] <daskreech> jimmy51_: so just ate ?
[19:12] <daskreech> or write?
[19:12] <jimmy51_> daskreech: yeah, and i'm full
[19:12] <jimmy51_> :)
 hi
[19:14] <Benkinooby> i am looking for a simple voice chat program, with minimal trafic to chat to africa. skype is too fat. teamspeak needs a server and stuff, which is too much for chatting only once or less a month.
[19:14] <Tm_T> !sip
[19:14] <Benkinooby> i was thinking about mumble, but this needs a server too
[19:14] <poesia> hello
[19:14] <Tm_T> Benkinooby: see what ubottu said
[19:15] <poesia> hola
[19:15] <jimmy51_> daskreech: i thought my joke was hilarious.  (ate... full)
[19:15] <poesia> ¿?
[19:15] <Tm_T> !voip | Benkinooby also this
[19:15] <Benkinooby> Tm_T: i allready opened the link :)
[19:15] <Tm_T> Benkinooby: great (:
[19:16] <Benkinooby> Tm_T: for a list of software i can use google/wikipedia/software-repos. i was asking for experince. for now i use skype, but it takes too much trafic
[19:17] <mutant> hrdcore0x1a4 , help please get netbeans from repository
[19:17] <Tm_T> Benkinooby: true, what I meant that sip and other protocols might be just fine
[19:17] <mutant> how i can get it from there ?
[19:18] <Benkinooby> Tm_T: don't i need software to use a protocol?
[19:19] <Tm_T> Benkinooby: yes, and those factoids tell what possible apps be (:
[19:20] <daskreech> jimmy51_: So did I :)
[19:21] <hrdcore0x1a4> mutant: Is it not there?
[19:25] <Benkinooby> Tm_T: so they are used to call computer->computer or computer->phone ?
[19:25] <Benkinooby> !Ekiga
[19:25] <Tm_T> Benkinooby: computer-computer typically
[19:25] <Benkinooby> !Empathy
[19:26] <Gintulis> konversation used 10o% cpu core, when i used "~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc' default, its ok, bet when i replase this file with my configuration, cpu core load 100%
[19:26] <Benkinooby> Tm_T: do you have any experience about trafic consumpion... i can find 10000 comparisons about protocols and stuff (mainly wikipedia) but about the consumption there are no infos
[19:26] <Benkinooby> at least i can't find
[19:26] <Tm_T> sorry no
[19:31] <aaron__> He everyone i need a lil help installing my sound card drivers realtec alc888
[19:31] <aaron__> when i trype sudo ./install i get an error msg .: 11: Can't open ./version
[19:32] <acidtoi> aaron__: hi
[19:33] <acidtoi> aaron__: look, you need to run that via sh like "sudo sh./install" - without quotes of course
[19:33] <aaron__> sudo: sh./install: command not found
[19:34] <acidtoi> ok
[19:34] <acidtoi> let's do this slowly xD
[19:35] <acidtoi> sudo  sh   ./the program you want to run here
[19:35] <acidtoi> remember in linux there's relevancy between capital and normal letters
[19:36] <aaron__> .: 11: Can't open ./version
[19:36] <aaron__>  same thing
[19:36] <acidtoi> most of time if not allways you can use autocomplete, start typing your command or a file or directory name and push TAB key, try experimenting with it
[19:36] <chuckf> aaron__: does the ./version file exist?
[19:37] <acidtoi> no way, i think i know what's happening
[19:37] <acidtoi> look that install or maybe INSTALL file
[19:37] <aaron__> i trying inatall drivers for my alc 888 card
[19:37] <acidtoi> that's a text file man, containing instructions for running or compile your drivers
[19:38] <acidtoi> open it and search for the executable script/program
[19:38] <acidtoi> that usually shows at the top of the install instructions file
[19:38] <aaron__> alsa-driver-1.0.22-5.14rc2.tar.bz2  install     test.wav.bz2
[19:38] <aaron__> alsa-lib-1.0.22.tar.bz2             Readme.txt
[19:38] <aaron__> this is what i have in my folder
[19:39] <acidtoi> ok, maybe you need to untar the bz2 files
[19:39] <acidtoi> check readme and install for instructions
[19:40] <acidtoi> install for juro, open it in kate/gedit/leafpad/nano whatever you use to edit text files
[19:40] <aaron__> think i figured it out says i need to extract alsa
[19:41] <acidtoi> follow instructions, it should be easy
[19:41] <Draggor> Anyone here use network manager to set up AT&T mobile broadband?
[19:41] <acidtoi> aaron__: check that and let me know
[19:44] <asktoby_> Can anyone recommend a light app for loading MP3s onto a mass-storage MP3 player? Amarok's a bit big.
[19:44] <Tm_T> asktoby_: if those devices can be mounted, cp?
[19:44] <acidtoi> asktoby_: hi, why not just copying them, aka drag and drop?
[19:44] <asktoby_> Sorry, should have said... girlfriend friendly :)
[19:45] <asktoby_> The MP3s are not sorted by folder, but they are all tagged, so I need a database front end
[19:45] <aaron__> thanks acidtoi
[19:45] <acidtoi> asktoby_: did you make it work?
[19:46] <Tm_T> asktoby_: you there's no such thing called "girlfriend friendly"
[19:46] <Benkinooby> asktoby_: drag and drop in filemanager... other nice song-managers are "listen", "exaile"
[19:46] <Draggor> Is there a tutorial somewhere on how to set up a mobile broadband connection in kubuntu?
[19:46] <terran4000> Does anyone know why Docky is extremely laggy after upgrading to KDE 4.4RC?
[19:47] <acidtoi> asktoby_: using Dolphin is plain easy. If files are already tagged you can copy folders from your music directory to your device directory and the device player will read the tags
[19:47] <Benkinooby> asktoby_: audacious is nice too
[19:47] <TheAncientGoat> terran4000: Why are you using docky in KDE 0.o
[19:47] <terran4000> TheAncientGoat: Because it's uber pretty
[19:47] <terran4000> It works 100% perfectly in KDE 4.3.x
[19:47] <TheAncientGoat> Use the FancyTasks plasmoid
[19:48] <Benkinooby> asktoby_: i have a netbook, this is why i also was forced to look for a fast, small but handy music manager
[19:48] <terran4000> FancyTasks .. hm, never heard of it. K. I'll give it a get-go
[19:49] <Benkinooby> asktoby_: the best thing is to get those listen, exaile and audacious via softwaremanager and test them... i don't know how they work with ipod
[19:49] <TheAncientGoat> terran4000: Its in the kubuntu repos
[19:49] <terran4000> TheAncientGoat: oooooo, I was about to ask where to get it. Thanks :)
[19:49] <acidtoi> back in ubuntu i used to LOVE cairo dock, it rocks -better than AWN to me- but now i have my new shiny 24" monitor, i don't see whay i would need to use it :P
[19:50] <TheAncientGoat> terran4000: Fear my psychic powers, bwahaha
[19:50]  * terran4000 hides
[19:52] <terran4000> geh, pesky 4.4rc >_>
[19:52] <terran4000> I knew I shoulda stayed with 4.3
[19:52] <terran4000> It's always fun trying to wrestle linux into doing what you want it to do!
[19:54] <aaron__> crap this isn't going to work just remembered since i have a dual boot with hackintosh i use a usb sound dongle
[19:54] <Draggor> anyone, help with network-manager and 3g?
[19:55] <aaron__> i guess this  will not work on linux
[19:55] <acidtoi> in my short experience with kde i learned just to stay far far far away from anything but final releases or you may end up with a totally screwed up computer :S
[19:55] <acidtoi> aaron__: isn't linux detecting you usb device?
[19:56] <aaron__> the mic is detected
[19:56] <aaron__> nothing else
[19:56] <acidtoi> and when you install the driver? did they install?
[19:57] <aaron__> the drivers for my sound card works fine
[20:00] <aaron__> well something just happened i unplugged it than tried plugging my USB dongle back in & a pop up displayed
[20:00] <aaron__> i ran test music played however my speaker icon still have a X nest to it
[20:00] <acidtoi> aaron__: sorry, gotta go to work, hang again later if you can and we'll try to find a way to make the dongle work :)
[20:01] <acidtoi> see ya!
[20:02] <deck_> hi all
[20:02]  * terran4000 sighs
[20:02] <terran4000> Is there a way to downgrade from 4.4RC2 to 4.3.x?
[20:02] <deck_> hi
[20:02] <Tm_T> terran4000: no easy way
[20:03] <terran4000> blarg, thought at much.
[20:03] <terran4000> guess I'll tough it out till this gets more stable >_>
[20:05] <GinoMan> wait... kwin crashes?
[20:05] <GinoMan> /n/m
[20:06] <GinoMan> stupid pidgin has a scrolling bug
[20:07] <samppa> does anyone know if there is a ppa with some recent qt 4.6.1 build to fix kde crashes when closing a window?
[20:14] <Tm_T> samppa: dunno, but perhaps kubuntu-beta soon, as rc3 is released
[20:15] <Guest57958> how to deny loading of flash? in firefox
[20:15] <TheAncientGoat> Use flashblock?
[20:16] <TheAncientGoat> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433
[20:16] <TheAncientGoat> Guest57958: ^
[20:17] <Guest57958> my firefox load all CPU    my cooler is work very hard
[20:18] <Guest57958> allo!!!!!!
[20:22] <fahadmoideen> hi
[20:30] <gonnatry> is it possible that ur contactlist on msn can get full?
[20:31] <Tm_T> no idea
[20:32] <gonnatry> no1 knows :(
[20:32] <gonnatry> anyway tm_t, can i ask something else?
[20:33] <gonnatry> can u configure the winkey in kubuntu so that winkey+D shows the desktop as in windows? i really like that shortcut in windows tbh
[20:33] <lloowen> Hello! Having problems with my dvd media on my laptop. When I put in a DVD, the only option I have when the media has been recognized is to burn to it using k3b! Why can't I view the content of the DVD?
[20:33] <Tm_T> gonnatry: sure, in systemsettings there is item for konfiguring keyboard shortcuts (:
[20:34] <gonnatry> konfiguring, lmao :D
[20:35] <fat> My K3B is showing an error message:
[20:35] <Tm_T> !dvd
[20:35] <Tm_T> lloowen: ^
[20:35] <fat> http://slexy.org/view/s2TqM3zc44
[20:35] <fat> it has nothing to do w multimedia
[20:36] <Tm_T> fat: it wasn't for you anyway (:
[20:36] <fat> oh
[20:37] <fat> how do I change System locale charset w out system crash?
[20:38] <Benkinooby> what happens to ppas when i am upgrading?
[20:38] <Benkinooby> ppa packages
[20:39] <Tm_T> what you mean?
[20:40] <gonnatry> speaking of ppa's, i dont understand it, will the ppa for chromium update as soon as theres a new version?
[20:40] <Tm_T> gonnatry: as soon as ppa maintainer will update package, yes
[20:41] <gonnatry> and when will it update?
[20:41] <Tm_T> when the ppa maintainer will update, I have no idea how active this particular might be
[20:41] <gonnatry> ok
[20:42] <Benkinooby> Tm_T: what i mean: mumble comes with karmic as version 1.1.8 , i use ppa to get 1.2.1, which will come witch lucid.
[20:42] <gonnatry> there should be a chromium based browser for linux
[20:43] <Mamarok> gonnatry: there is, and that PPA is updated daily
[20:43] <gonnatry> Mamarok, but is chromium stable?
[20:43]  * Mamarok uses it and it works fine
[20:43] <Benkinooby> Tm_T: so will the upgrade disable all ppa packages, in order to avoid conflicts?
[20:43] <Mamarok> gonnatry: no, else it wouldn't be a daily build
[20:43] <Tm_T> Benkinooby: if the upgrade tool is used, yes
[20:44] <przemo_one> hi
[20:44] <Mamarok> but I can use it every day so far, there are sometimes some glitches, but it is one of my work instruments
[20:44] <gonnatry> isnt chromium a sort of beta/alpha for testers who want to help the chromium project so that companies who use the chromium code get feedback?
[20:44] <Ahox> Hi, is there a qt4.6.1 ppa somewhere?
[20:44] <gonnatry> Mamarok, so it is as stable as lets say google chrome?
[20:44] <Mamarok> gonnatry: ? Sorry, I can't follwo
[20:44] <gonnatry> sorry, ill rewrite
[20:46] <gonnatry> i think that the latest trunk builds of chromium as how they call it, are testbrowsers so that companies who use code from the chromiumproject know whats good and whats not, so that they can make a stable browser
[20:46] <przemo_one> hey guys. do we expect firefox3.6 in repository or not?
[20:46] <Tm_T> przemo_one: Karmic repositories? no
[20:47] <przemo_one> Tm_T mozilla daily yes
[20:47] <przemo_one> Tm_T why not?
[20:48] <Tm_T> przemo_one: yes, but that's not part of official repositories I was referring to, and no new versions will be pushed to stable releases unless there's really heavy reason to
[20:48] <gonnatry> Mamarok, ?
[20:48] <przemo_one> Tm_T got it
[20:48] <gonnatry> *test
[20:48]  * gonnatry test
[20:48] <gonnatry> yay
[20:49] <przemo_one> Tm_T there was 3.5 in previous stable release. i think there should be 3.6 in current. not as default update.
[20:52] <gonnatry> Mamarok, u there?
[20:52] <Mamarok> gonnatry: yes, I am here
[20:53] <gonnatry> i think that the latest trunk builds of chromium as how they call it, are testbrowsers so that companies who use code from the chromiumproject know whats good and whats not, so that they can make a stable browser
[20:53] <Mamarok> and no, the daily build is done from the development version by some Ubuntero, that's why it is in a Private Package Archive
[20:53] <gonnatry> awesome :)
[20:53] <gonnatry> Mamarok, u on ubuntu?
[20:53] <gonnatry> or kubuntu?
[20:53] <Mamarok> Kubuntu of course
[20:54] <gonnatry> can u send me a screenie of chromium running plz????
[20:54] <ramon> is it linux? no wine?
[20:54] <gonnatry> no wine required for it ramon :)
[20:54] <Mamarok> gonnatry: why? You can Google and certainly finde some faster than I do a screenshot, alo I have my work data on it so I can't
[20:55] <ramon> but its not in official repository
[20:55] <Mamarok> ramon: what are you talking about?
[20:55] <gonnatry> Mamarok, but i wanna see it with that theme from kubuntu, those 2 arrows and then some space further, the close button
[20:55] <gonnatry> nvm, just answer this, are the tabs in the titlebar?
[20:56] <ramon> Mamarok chronium is it that google browser??
[20:56] <Mamarok> gonnatry: I beg your pardon? You can apply any theme you want, and Chrome doesn't use the window decorations
[20:56] <ramon> nothing good since firefox 3.0 i think btw
[20:56] <gonnatry> chromium uses its own theme? :o
[20:56] <Mamarok> ramon: it is the Free Software part of the Google browser Chrome
[20:57] <Mamarok> gonnatry: there are many different themes
[20:57] <ramon> Mamarok so its a linux browser. my question was is it in repository or not?
[20:58] <Mamarok> ramon: no, it is in a PPA, not in the regular repositories
[20:58] <Mamarok> and it is a daily build, not a stable application
[20:58] <ramon> thanks
[20:58] <Mamarok> so if you need a stable browser you shouldn't use it, it can sometimes break for 24 hours or so
[20:59] <Mamarok> gonnatry: please search for images in Google, there are plenty
[20:59] <gonnatry> but Mamarok, does it use the default Oxygen theme?
[20:59] <gonnatry> i cant find :/
[20:59] <Mamarok> *sigh* you didn't search apparently. Try the search terms Chromium screenshot
[21:00] <miglo> hi all! the cpu frequency scaling does not work anymore since I have installed kubuntu 9.10 64bit. does someone had similar problems?
[21:00] <gonnatry> Mamarok, i tried chromium kubuntu 9.10
[21:00] <gonnatry> sorry
[21:00] <Mamarok> miglo: define "doesn't work" please
[21:00] <gonnatry> i cant find >.<
[21:01] <Mamarok> gonnatry: open your eyes, it is in the Image search for Google, that is so obvious you can't miss it
[21:01] <miglo> Mamarok: both core's are running at full speed
[21:01] <ramon> so there is google chrome for linux. i missed that
[21:01] <ramon> :)
[21:01] <gonnatry> im serious, its not in there
[21:02] <Mamarok> ramon: no, there is not, read again
[21:02] <gonnatry> i dont live in the us btw
[21:02] <Mamarok> gonnatry: that doesn't matter, you should get tons of screenshots if you really used the search terms I told you
[21:02] <ramon> Mamarok Google Chrome Linux Beta (x86_64) yes there is
[21:02] <Mamarok> miglo: and what are your powersave settings?
[21:02] <gonnatry> ok, ill search whole google
[21:03] <Mamarok> *sigh* can we go back to support for Kubuntu, please? This is not a Kindergarten here
[21:03] <miglo> Mamarok: sorry, do you mean the governor? it's set to 'ondemand'
[21:04] <Mamarok> miglo: in the SysTray you have a battery icon, right click on it
[21:04] <miglo> Mamarok: no, there is no battery icon
[21:04] <Mamarok> miglo: else you can change it in the System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Power Management
[21:05] <Mamarok> and set it to dynamic
[21:08] <ramon> yes and I'm downloading google chrome for linux right now
[21:08] <gonnatry> Mamarok, im watching a video, and i see that it doesnt have tabs in the titlebar, is that right?
[21:12] <miglo> Mamarok: the profile is set to 'performance', shall I change it to 'powersave'? both profiles are using the 'dynamic' strategy
[21:12] <Mamarok> gonnatry: the tabs are on top, right below the window border
[21:13] <gonnatry> whats the window border? >.<
[21:13] <Mamarok> miglo: performance uses a full speed usually, if you use powersave it will be dynamic
[21:14] <Mamarok> gonnatry: every application on the desktop is in a window, the border around the graphical interface, again, open your eyes
[21:15] <gonnatry> Mamarok, sorry i dont understand
[21:15] <miglo> Mamarok: hmm, maybe it needs a restart to take effect? I mean the cpu still runs at full speed after I have applied the changes
[21:15] <Mamarok> miglo: it shouldn't, did you check the capabilities in the Power Management?
[21:16] <Mamarok> miglo: if your ACPI is able to use dynamic CPU spee, it should change immediately
[21:18] <miglo> Mamarok: I'm checking the cpu speed through '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq' and a running widget on the desktop. Under the 32 bit version everything was working fine. - strange
[21:18] <miglo> so, never change a running system  :|
[21:18] <Mamarok> miglo: I have a 64bit system here and it works fine
[21:20] <Mamarok> I use Performance when it is plugged in, Dynamic (ondemand) with the battery
[21:20] <lenina> hi, i ripped a dvd with dvd::rip and it turned out, it saved every single chapter as a *.vob-file. can i concatonate them with avimerge or do i have to transcode to avi first ? if so, which tool would you advise ?
[21:20] <alex> hi
[21:21] <alex> why my kde works hard?
[21:21] <lenina> (non-gui tool would be appreciated)
[21:21] <Mamarok> alex: your question is not really precise, could you change that, please?
[21:22] <alex> works very slow
[21:22] <alex> i have kubuntu
[21:22] <soee> when do we get kde 4.4 updates ?
[21:22] <Mamarok> alex: which version of Kubuntu and KDE?
[21:23] <alex> the last
[21:23] <Mamarok> soee: see /topic
[21:23] <alex> i have gnome and kde,
[21:23] <miglo> Mamarok: thanks so far for your help. I'm going to reboot in hope it helps
[21:23] <Mamarok> miglo: fingers crossed
[21:24] <soee> Mamarok: what should i fin there?
[21:24] <Mamarok> alex: which version of Kubuntu and KDE is running on your machine?
[21:24] <alex> the last version
[21:24] <Mamarok> soee: updates are announced there, else see http://kubuntu.org
[21:25] <Mamarok> alex: could I have real numbers please? What does the About dialog of a KDE application say About KDE?
[21:25] <lenina> *push* i ripped a dvd with dvd::rip and it turned out, it saved every single chapter as a *.vob-file. can i concatonate them with avimerge or do i have to transcode to avi first ? if so, which tool would you advise ?
[21:25] <Mamarok> lenina: I don't know, sorry
[21:25] <soee> Mamarok: ok, but i was asking if someone know when we can expect updates for kubuntu, anyway thnx
[21:25] <lenina> :( anyone else ?
[21:26] <Mamarok> soee: when those are ready, anyway, it is not likely that RC3 are packaged, since it is only a test for packagers
[21:27] <Mamarok> since there were problems with the tarbals in RC2
[21:29] <lenina> btw: is there any tool like wgetpaste in ubuntu ?
[21:30] <genii> !info pastebinit | lenina
[21:30] <lenina> alex: wait a moment
[21:31] <lenina> thanks a lot, geniii
[21:33] <genii> lenina: You're welcome
[21:34] <lenina> genii: it doesn't show an id, when i do something like echo "hello world" | pastebinit.. :( just http://pastebin.com
[21:36] <miglo> Mamarok: seems to work now :)
[21:36] <lenina> and doesn't seem to post anything
[21:38] <lenina> strange, it works with cat.. echo should write on stdout, shouldn't it ?
[21:39] <Zuz|Kubuntu> any way to get internet explorer 7 on kubuntu?
[21:39] <lenina> alex: please type (without the quotes): "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /etc/*release | pastebinit"
[21:39] <Mamarok> miglo: nice :)
[21:40] <lenina> alex: and tell what your pastebin-output is (like "pastebin.com/34ak392j")
[21:40] <Mamarok> Zuz|Kubuntu: you are joking, aren't you? And not, not that I know of
[21:40] <lenina> alex: open a konsole and type it there, i forgot ;)
[21:40] <alex> done
[21:41] <lenina> alex: what's your output ?
[21:41] <alex> nothing
[21:41] <alex> don;t appear anything
[21:41] <lenina> alex: there has to be
[21:41] <lenina> alex: where did you type that ?
[21:41] <Mamarok> lenina: a copy and paste to the pastebin widet might be easier
[21:41] <alex> in konsol
[21:41] <alex> konsole
[21:42] <alex> wait
[21:42] <lenina> alex: is there ? ;)
[21:42] <lenina> Mamarok: i don't know any widget, which does that :(
[21:43] <alex> eading state information... Done
[21:43] <alex> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[21:43] <alex>   wine-gecko python-wxgtk2.8 kdepim-groupware snowglobe-data fuseiso9660
[21:43] <alex>   libkopete4 wine libumlib0 winbind libmsn0.1 libmms0 python-wxversion
[21:43] <alex> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[21:43] <FloodBotK2> alex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:43] <alex> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[21:43] <lenina> alex: nicht alles posten, nur die zeile mit pastebin
[21:43] <Mamarok> alex: do *mot* paste this in here, copy it to http://pastebin.ca and give us the link
[21:43] <lenina> oops
[21:44] <Mamarok> lenina: also there is a German channel: #kubuntu-de
[21:44] <lenina> sry for the german
[21:44] <lenina> :D
[21:44] <Mamarok> lenina: the pastebin widget is available sine KDE 4.1
[21:44] <Mamarok> lenina: seriously, there is a German channel, you better do support there rather than in PM
[21:44] <lenina> Mamarok: why ?
[21:45] <alex> done
[21:45] <alex> http://pastebin.ca/1774815
[21:45] <Mamarok> because a support channel is here for everybody, so the others can learn, too
[21:46] <Mamarok> half of the support in PM, half here is very confusing for everybody
[21:46] <Mamarok> I was expecting an answer from alex since quite some time BTW...
[21:46] <lenina> Mamarok: eeerr, i said at 22:44 it was a mistake - i don't know where alex comes from
[21:46] <Zuz|Kubuntu> mamarok, why would i be joking?
[21:46] <alex> ,,,
[21:47] <Mamarok> Zuz|Kubuntu: Internet Explorer needs Windows to run, so no, it can't run in Linux
[21:48] <lenina> alex: try "cat /etc/*release | pastebinit" - it should output a single link
[21:48] <Mamarok> hi JontheEchidna :)
[21:48] <JontheEchidna> hi
[21:48] <alex> what is this lenina?
[21:49] <lenina> alex: it automatically posts your ubuntu-release-file (in which all info about your distribution is) to pastebin
[21:49] <Zuz|Kubuntu> Mamarok, unfortunately there are things that can only be done in IE, there are wine versions of IE6 working on linux, but I wanted to know if there is one with active x working
[21:50] <Mamarok> *sigh* back to work
[21:50] <lenina> Zuz|Kubuntu: i don't thing this way is safe for web design purposes, if you are trying to do that
[21:51] <alex> http://pastebin.ca/1774823
[21:51] <Zuz|Kubuntu> myitlab.com which is something online I have to take at my university requires IE with active x supported and this laptop only has kubuntu, and its the one i use for school and school workd  :)
[21:51] <Zuz|Kubuntu> I dont want to pull my older laptop with windows and use it.
[21:52] <lenina> alex: just type til the quote
[21:52] <alex> sorry
[21:52] <lenina> the command is:
[21:52] <lenina> cat /etc/*release | pastebinit
[21:56] <lenina> alex: does it work ?
[21:56] <alex> done
[21:57] <lenina> ok, do you get an output like "pastebin/3429dasd" or something =
[21:57] <alex> http://pastebin.ca/1774832
[21:59] <lenina> alex: you may put the output in here, if it is only a line :) to paste a pastebin-link is a bit too complicated ^^
[21:59] <alex> http://pastebin.ca/1774832
[21:59] <alex> sorry
[21:59] <alex> alex@alex:~$ cat /etc/*release | pastebinit
[21:59] <alex> http://pastebin.com/f7d09144c
[22:00] <lenina> alex: you don't have to repeat the command, just post the output - but: way to go ;)
[22:01] <lenina> alex: "lspci | pastebinit"
[22:02] <lenina> (explanation: this command will post your hardware data to pastebin)
[22:02] <alex> spci: command not found
[22:03] <Tm_T> alex: lspci (:
[22:03] <lenina> alex: you forgot an l at the beginning
[22:09] <lenina> alex: what is your output ?
[22:11] <albertolempira> hey guys i´ve been using a huawei e1552 with kubuntu, but suddenly it stoped working someone have any idea of what could happened? thanks
[22:13] <lenina> albertolempira: what did actually stop working ? post your errors at pastebin.com
[22:14] <albertolempira> lenina the modem won´t connect anymore, i´ll pastebin my /var/log/messages
[22:15] <lenina> albertolempira: ok, this isn't really my area, but i'll give it a try
[22:16] <albertolempira> lenina http://pastebin.com/m5b2efd76
[22:18] <Zuz|Kubuntu> could anyone tell me how to find the kubuntu version im using?
[22:19] <Zuz|Kubuntu> nm lsb_release -a
[22:19] <lenina> Zuz|Kubuntu: cat /etc/*release :D
[22:20] <lenina> albertolempira: do you have jaunty ?
[22:22] <albertolempira> no, karmic
[22:22] <albertolempira> lenina no, karmic
[22:23] <miglo> Zuz|Kubuntu: 'cat /etc/issue.net'
[22:23] <Zuz|Kubuntu> i got it by just typing lsb_release -a in console  thanks tho
[22:24] <Zuz|Kubuntu> im trying to get Internet explorer and see if active x works
[22:24] <Zuz|Kubuntu> on karmic
[22:24] <lenina> albertolempira: this one might fit to your problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1177021
[22:25] <albertolempira> lenina thanks! i´ll give it a shot
[22:28] <lenina> alex: ?
[22:31] <sxxth> Webchat - hacker.it Azzurra
[22:31] <sxxth> hacker.it Azzurra
[22:57] <think43> hi all
[22:58] <catygory> hi all
[22:58] <new_bember> hi all
[22:58] <new_bember> (-:
[22:58] <_nik_> hi
[22:58] <think43> I just installed kubuntu for the first time, and I was wondering, why did it install two kernels.  Also, it seems to copy over my settings from my previous debian system.  btw my trunk kernel doesn't work
[23:00] <think43> also, what is my su password.  There was no prompt during install to set my root password, so how do I do it?
[23:01] <_nik_> you have no root-passwort
[23:01] <_nik_> for systemconfiguration you use sudo and the password of your account
[23:01] <think43> _nik_: ok, so I never log in as root
[23:02] <think43> _nik_: I never need to.  This is a good idea
[23:02] <_nik_> right
[23:02] <think43> thanks _nik_
[23:03] <think43> kubunu is excellent.  So I read it is commercial, how is that?
[23:04] <think43> yes, this is sublime
[23:04] <think43> I love it
[23:05] <think43> how do I chose some local source.list, cause I am currently using a us place, meanwhile I am in canada
[23:07] <_nik_> you can change it in kpackagekit
[23:07] <think43> _nik_: thanks,
[23:08] <think43> _nik_: do you know about this two kernels installed.  I have ...31 and ..32 kernels, the 32 is trunk, and doesn't work
[23:10] <_nik_> no, I'm sorry
[23:11] <think43> _nik_: I will just delete from grub or something, how do you do that?
[23:12] <_nik_> which version of kubuntu do you have?
[23:13] <think43> I am not sure, how do you determine, uname?  It is the latest cause I downloaded and installed just today
[23:13] <think43> 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubunt
[23:16] <_nik_> that should be 9.10
[23:17] <think43> I am gonna install kooldock, did you try it?
[23:17] <_nik_> no
[23:19] <think43> _nik_: you're not interested in that kind of thing, eye-candy, mac style dock
[23:19] <_nik_> no
[23:20] <_nik_> im satisfied with the oxygen design
[23:20] <terran4000> think43: if you want a good dock thing, I recommend you try Docky
[23:20] <think43> _nik_: how do you get the oxygen design, just change the theme?
[23:21] <think43> terran4000: I will google it, brb
[23:21] <_nik_> exactly
[23:21] <terran4000> another user suggested to me, smoothdock plasmoid
[23:21] <terran4000> smoothdock? slick dock ... something like that
[23:21] <terran4000> or was it funky dock o.O
[23:21] <terran4000> I really can't remember what that plasmoid was
[23:21] <Guest54867> help
[23:21] <terran4000> But whatever it was, docky was way better I believe
[23:21] <Guest54867> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16
[23:21] <Guest54867> e2fsck 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
[23:21] <Guest54867> /dev/sdb1 is mounted.
[23:21] <Guest54867> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[23:21] <Guest54867> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[23:21] <Guest54867> Do you really want to continue (y/n)?
[23:21] <FloodBotK2> Guest54867: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:23] <terran4000> Guest54867: that means that you should not run the check on a partition which is currently active or you are using
[23:31] <lenina> um, where is the application crash log file in ubuntu ?
[23:33] <lenina> there doesn't seem to be a /var/log/apport.log
[23:48] <sithlord48> how is everyone this evening?
[23:49] <sithlord48> does any one know how to enable multi touch tackpad ?
[23:53] <genii> sithlord48: I can't vouch for it, but this looks promising: http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/03/multi-touch-for-anyall-synaptics.html
[23:54] <think43> where is the icon image for a program launcher
[23:54] <sithlord48> genii, have not seen that one before gonna give it a shot.. let u know in a few...
[23:54] <robin0800> sithlord48: there is a touchpad add in that appears in the settings menu can't remember what its called though
[23:56] <genii> think43: Usually somewhere like in /usr/share/icons/name-of-theme-here
[23:57] <think43> genii: thanks
[23:59] <think43> I donk like kooldock
[23:59] <think43> avant-window-navigator is sweet, but it doesn't work well either