[00:21] <JanC> ☺
[00:22]  * JanC has an all-day release party tomorrow (or today really, as it's past midnight here)
[00:22] <JanC> not much time for nursing hangovers  ;)
[03:59] <nigelb> oh, well, maco's back :)
[04:00] <maco> yes
[04:00] <nigelb> I did wonder whom to poke to make +r
[04:02] <maco> i checked freenode's faqs to find out if it was +r or +R i wanted :P
[04:02] <nigelb> I forget what +R does, keeps them from joining and +r keeps them from talking?
[04:03]  * nigelb thinks he got them the other way aruound
[04:03] <maco> no
[04:03] <maco> backward
[04:03] <nigelb> note to self: small is powerful in frenode
[12:18] <elky> have we seen life from the graner camp yet?
[12:19] <nigelb> elky: dont think so
[12:23] <elky> no dents since she was heading over, and no failbook activity since friday
[12:23] <Pendulum> I didn't see her before I left yesterday
[12:25] <nigelb> elky: calm before the storm starts
[12:26] <nigelb> anyway she'll be online tonight whereever she is, uwn
[12:26] <elky> sure. I was hoping she could be around for the opening of voting, since I've been holding off in hopes of someone responding with their waiver
[12:55] <akgraner> elky, hey!
[12:55] <akgraner> :-)
[12:55] <elky> \o/
[12:56] <akgraner> made it home about 8 hours ago
[12:56] <elky> sleep and smothering kids with hugs had priority? :)
[12:56] <akgraner> :-)
[12:57] <akgraner> yeppers - found out my daughter placed 3rd overall in her 1st wrestling competition :-) and my son has decided to play trumpet and not trombone next year all that good stuffs
[12:57] <Pendulum> ooh... congrats to your daughter!
[13:00] <akgraner> Pendulum, thanks I'll tell her
[13:15]  * AlanBell takes hint and sends a mail
[13:18] <elky> AlanBell, well it's not your waiver that i'm worried about. But, he's had 24hrs to respond, and a baby chewing a mouse in front of a debinstall isn't a huge loss
[13:19] <AlanBell> I see. cute, but misses the "using" part of the brief
[13:21] <elky> yeah, there's a few ambiguous ones in the mix
[13:21] <elky> http://elkbuntu.net/ubuntuwomen/ <-- you can vote now
[13:22] <elky> please blog/twee/denti/book
[13:22] <akgraner> woo hoo!!!
[13:23] <elky> akgraner, you want dibs on planet or should I?
[13:23] <akgraner> elky, you can - I'll blog later today - :-)
[13:23] <akgraner> since it was your idea
[13:24] <akgraner> :-)
[13:24] <elky> meh, you just wanna steal my text, i knows it :P
[13:24] <akgraner> ok  - well there is that  too :-P
[13:24] <akgraner> hehe
[13:24] <akgraner> gotta get uwn out - I'll dent and tweet  - then work up a post laters
[13:25] <akgraner> elky, thanks for all your hard work on this!
[13:25] <elky> blog will be in a bit, just thought to make a grid of the pics
[13:25] <elky> there's a nice even 30 of them, very doable
[13:28] <akgraner> :-) awesome
[13:30] <IdleOne> Great pics, all of them. but I thought it was meant to be from ages 2-12? and also showing the child using Ubuntu?
[13:30] <darkrose> some of those pic's are diabetes inducingly cute
[13:31] <IdleOne> Anyway I voted on the one I felt showed the girl actually "using" the computer.
[13:32] <elky> IdleOne, you should have seen the duplicates i left out. one guy submitted about 20 of the one child, each with a minute change to the monitor
[13:32] <elky> some of the dupes had kids not even touching the computer
[13:33] <IdleOne> there are a couple in thee where you see the kid using a laptop but don't see the screen
[13:33] <IdleOne> there*
[13:36] <elky> IdleOne, right, so i'm to call the parents liars. sounds useful.
[13:36] <IdleOne> No! that is not what i am saying
[13:37] <elky> i realise they don't all *scream* ubuntu
[13:37] <maco> hard to see a kid's face and the screen unless they pose so i suspect a back-of-a-head is gonna win :P
[13:37] <elky> but it's up to the audience now
[13:38] <elky> there's a few really good ones in there. like the little pink clad blondie with the tiara next to the monitor
[13:38] <IdleOne> my personal favorite is Photo #, can I say?
[13:38] <elky> yep
[13:39] <IdleOne> #1
[13:39] <IdleOne> the look on her face to me just says. I am thinking about what i am doing here.
[13:40] <elky> how is she "the one" that has the girl using the computer? there's a few with the same amount of interaction in there
[13:41] <IdleOne> Not sure what makes that pic "the one" is to me :)
[13:41] <elky> 27 and 28 are my favourites
[13:42] <elky> the baby one where the parent has written "dear kernel please don't panic" is just lols
[13:42] <IdleOne> hehe yup I liked that one also
[13:42] <IdleOne> 28 is also very nice
[13:43] <elky> 28 is a sign that her brother will make a good photographer
[13:45] <maco> yes
[13:45] <maco> that is a very nicely done photo
[13:45] <IdleOne> Well whichever submission wins it is awesome that so many people got involved
[13:45] <elky> yeah
[13:46] <elky> i'm still grumpy at the dude who sent in a pic of his daughter with 2 friends in their pjs. a waiver for his kid, no waiver for the other kids.
[13:46] <elky> just... argh
[13:47] <elky> I just don't understand people like that.
[13:48] <elky> is there some tool I can feed 30 photos to and have it make a grid of them? this is tedious...
[13:49] <IdleOne> like a collage?
[13:50] <elky> yeah
[13:50] <IdleOne> Picasa for linux does it
[13:50] <IdleOne> probably others too
[13:51] <elky> as in, it'll make the images in to one single one?
[13:56] <maco> fotowall according to apt-cache search
[13:56] <maco> i mean, thats a package name for making collages
[14:00] <IdleOne> elky: yes
[14:00] <elky> E: Couldn't find package fotowall
[14:00] <elky> i'm not on lucid though, is it a newish package?
[14:04] <darkrose> looks like it's on getdeb
[14:07] <elky> eww
[14:07] <IdleOne> elky: it is in Universe
[14:08] <IdleOne> Lucid not sure about karmic
[14:08] <darkrose> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fotowall
[14:08] <darkrose> just lucid by the looks of it
 Package fotowall does not exist in karmic
[14:08] <elky> IdleOne, i'm on karmic, i found lucid frustrating enough on the netbook where the window controls favour overflowing windows. i'm not in a hurry to be infuriated for my entire work day yet
[14:09] <maco> can try grabbing it from archive.ubuntu.com and see if itll install anyway
[14:09] <elky> true
[14:11] <elky> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-network (>= 4:4.6.0)
[14:11] <elky> not so :(
[14:11] <IdleOne> I got shot in the forehead at paintball yesterday :/
[14:12] <IdleOne> wrong channel
[14:12] <darkrose> elky: online tool? http://www.photovisi.com/
[14:12] <elky> maco, want to make me a collage with http://elkbuntu.net/ubuntuwomen/pics/thumbs/thumbs.tar.gz plzkthx? :)
[14:13] <elky> ooh that might just work darkrose
[14:13] <darkrose> :)
[14:14] <elky> classy, it filters .JPG out.
[14:14] <elky> thats just special
[14:15] <maco> elky: how big?
[14:15] <elky> maco, not much bigger than 500px wide if possible
[14:16] <elky> otherwise blog will complain
[14:16] <maco> :( it acts in inches and centimeters
[14:16] <elky> i can resize, just make it a reasonable size
[14:17] <elky> (and what the...?)
[14:17] <maco> its thinking of print media
[14:17] <maco> 96dpi...500px...ill tell it 5 inches
[14:19] <maco> this program is great if you want to control placement/rotation just like on real paper, but it has no automated "just make 'em all fit, ok?!?!?!" mode
[14:20] <elky> yeah, see this is what i want. apparently "metapixel" should do the same thing, but it consistently responds with the --help output no matter what I give it
[14:20] <elky> (it's non-gooey)
[14:22] <maco> yes i just tried the same thing
[14:33] <elky> http://www.shapecollage.com/online/?cid=f8t5i13c is the closest i have got so far, but it's a bit haphazard
[14:37] <maco> ya know, lemme see what digikam can do
[14:39] <elky> i thought fspot could do stuff, but it's... useless :(
[14:39] <maco> boo
[14:39] <maco> kipi plugins cant do this so neither digikam nor gwenview is useful for it
[14:41] <elky> fiiiiiine, i'll install rainbow borg on my 'puter :(
[14:41] <elky> mean technology
[14:42] <elky> if freaking javascript can do this stuff, how come real software cant? :(
[14:43] <IdleOne> rainbow borg?
[14:43] <elky> google
[14:43] <IdleOne> oh
[14:44] <IdleOne> I use a very unscientific way of chosing what apps I use
[14:44] <IdleOne> if it works for me I use it
[14:44] <IdleOne> not always FOSS but it is what it is
[14:44] <elky> well, we were trying to figure what matched that criteria
[14:45] <nigelb> oh yay, akgraner is back :)
[14:45] <elky> nigelb, go help  her with UWN :P
[14:45] <darkrose> elky, still need that collage?
[14:46] <nigelb> elky: I've done some blog post she can re-tweet
[14:46] <nigelb> re-post
[14:48] <akgraner> as long as it falls between the 9th and the 15 for this edition :-)
[14:48] <elky> ok. i'm officially sold on picasa.
[14:48] <maco> hehe
[14:48] <IdleOne> elky: :)
[14:48] <IdleOne> it works
[14:48] <elky> i mean after it gave my hdd a coronary scouring out every single image file it contains, i have a mosaic in like 5 seconds
[14:49] <IdleOne> that is all I have to say about it
[14:49] <nigelb> wait, picasa for linux is out?
[14:49] <IdleOne> been out
[14:49] <nigelb> last time I had to something, I booted into windows to get it done and booted back
[14:50] <elky> nigelb, mum has been using it for years, so yeah
[14:50] <nigelb> I like photo of the girl with the blue T
[14:50] <maco> they "ported" it...it depends on wine :P
[14:50] <nigelb> she's so serious
[14:51] <elky> nigelb, yeah, it's hard to prove she's using ubuntu though. she's one of the ones idleone was annoyed at
[14:51] <IdleOne> lol I was not annoyed
[14:52] <IdleOne> I was just saying in a non challant way that "I" thought the use of Ubuntu had to be evident
[14:52] <nigelb> well, to be honest we can't judge that without an lsb_release
[14:53] <nigelb> because any linux distro can be made to look like ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu
[14:53] <elky> yeah, exactly
[14:54] <elky> and to be honest this is about getting ubuntu[-women] visible. If a mac fanboi want's to sell hir soul to do so, then I'm not going to stop them :P
[14:54] <nigelb> elky: +1 :)
[14:55] <nigelb> awww, #25 looks even cuter
[14:57]  * nigelb finished voted and confirmed.
[15:01] <elky> ooookay... this is lol: http://www.geekosophical.net/?p=486
[15:01] <elky> (look at the post id)
[15:02] <nigelb> um, whats special about 486?
[15:02] <nigelb> oooh, intel 486
[15:03] <nigelb> my first computer was a 386 with win 95
[15:04] <elky> nigelb, yah, the geeky number factor
[15:04] <nigelb> elky: :)
[15:09] <nigelb> ooh, uds pics are up :)
[15:09] <nigelb> http://www.flickr.com/photos/54757453@N00/
[15:11] <nigelb> I think amber was in the 'we're not going to take it'song.  Awesome :)
[15:17] <Pendulum> the poster was
[15:18] <elky> akgraner, did we decide a date to end the voting, can you remember? 28th is the announcing. Do we want a whole 10 days? If we ask jane for her fave and second fave, then we can really close it 27th. what do you think?
[15:18] <akgraner> 27th 2359 UTC  sounds good to me
[15:19] <elky> coolies
[15:20] <elky> front page of wiki and front page of competition wiki namespace updated
[15:43] <elky> oh cute, someone is really bad at hiding their recidivist voting
[15:44] <elky> hint: if your full name is in all the addresses and they're all from the same IP, i'm going to notice
[15:49] <AlanBell> a single absolute favourite is a bit harsh :-)
[15:49] <elky> AlanBell, for you, yeah :P
[15:50] <elky> which means you only +1 the girls and dont fave anyone else
[15:50] <elky> but meh
[15:53] <AlanBell> meh indeed, I voted for all those I liked (and felt met the brief)
[16:23] <czajkowski> aloha
[17:09] <elky> Hmm... what linux video editing stuff lets you add text?
[17:10] <nigelb> elky: hardway kdenlive but interace is confusing
[17:10] <nigelb> harder way, do the text part on gimp
[17:10] <elky> i had a poke ad kdenlive
[17:11] <elky> i have the montage part, but i cant find the text in it
[17:11] <elky> i want the text to do stuff, like move
[17:11] <elky> separate from the photo
[17:11] <elky> because i like to make things harder.
[17:11] <nigelb> can you set it as transparent and make that picture to move?
[17:12] <elky> I was kind of hoping to avoid adding another 30 image files to the equation
[17:13]  * nigelb doesn't have much idea :(
[17:13] <nigelb> most of my editing I've done in adobe premiere
[17:14] <nigelb> elky: oh, wait, you're making a video for the competition?
[17:15] <elky> Yeah, for a voting reminder in a few days
[17:15] <nigelb> hm, my crazy ideas seem to be not *that* crazy.. hehe
[17:16] <elky> kdenlive does make it really easy to montage photos though, for real
[17:16] <darkrose> could you just make an animation in gimp?
[17:16] <elky> but it kept erroring out saving ogg
[17:16] <elky> darkrose, i could, but it'd ruin the photo quality of the pics
[17:16] <nigelb> elky: try one of the proprietary files and then convert tht to ogg?
[17:17] <elky> And take an eternity
[17:17] <elky> nigelb, yeah, i did. but it still doesn't fix the text issue
[17:17] <nigelb> well, better than nothing :D
[17:17] <darkrose> k, I just have a gimp adiction :)
[17:17] <elky> darkrose, oh, i understand. you and akk can go off in your gimp addiction corner when she next shows up :P
[17:17] <nigelb> haha
[17:17] <darkrose> hehe ok
[17:17] <elky> shes in -women now, actually
[17:18] <nigelb> whatever you talk about, there's always somone who knows exactly what you're talking about :D
[17:32] <elky> someone needs to find me 2:19 of appropriate CC music to steal for this
[17:41] <nigelb> elky: um, ask akgraner to play something on the guitar for you? :D
[17:41] <nigelb> elky: this might help http://creativecommons.org/legalmusicforvideos
[17:41] <akgraner> what kind of music - I'll ask Becca to play and record something
[17:42] <elky> akgraner, something that fits with the video
[17:42] <elky> really have no idea what
[17:42] <AlanBell> twisted sister?
[17:42] <nigelb> http://dig.ccmixter.org/music_for_film_and_video
[17:42] <AlanBell> perhaps not
[17:42] <nigelb> elky: ^
[17:42] <darkrose> something from freeloops do the job?
[17:43] <nigelb> wow, the music on that site is pretty cool
[17:43] <nigelb> elky: Try out 'See you later' from the site I liked above
[17:44] <akgraner> I'll pop back in  - in a few back to UWN :-)
[17:45] <nigelb> oops, should have written amber instead of her nick. iForgot
[17:46] <akgraner> hehe
[17:46] <akgraner> :-) no worries
[17:48] <elky> nigelb, hmm, stuff on there is a bit... um... not of relevant generation to the kids?
[17:48] <elky> was kinda hoping for something a bit happy and cute
[17:48] <nigelb> elky: we'll have to go through every song
[17:48] <elky> yeah
[17:48] <czajkowski> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_75rGr5vENs :D I'm loving this song
[17:49] <nigelb> czajkowski: I listen to it every day
[17:50] <darkrose> "happy and cute" now I've that Barny song in my head :(
[17:50] <nigelb> elky: http://dig.ccmixter.org/music_for_film_and_video?offset=20 'silence awaits' ?
[17:50] <nigelb> nooo
[17:50] <nigelb> that too ends up as slightly rock :/
[17:51] <Pendulum> nigelb: we (as in czajkowski and I) listened to it more than that. just about every morning she put it on after getting up
[17:51] <nigelb> Pendulum: same here
[17:51] <nigelb> also whenever I was bored during sessions
[17:51] <elky> freaky mdz head
[17:51] <nigelb> when I was sleepy, I was listening to jono and jorge singing titanic
[17:51] <elky> that's all i can think now. freaky mdz head THAT MOVES
[17:51] <czajkowski> Pendulum: great way to wake up :)
[17:52] <nigelb> elky: haha
[17:52] <nigelb> czajkowski: no need of alarm
[17:52] <czajkowski> nigelb: nope myself and Pendulum woke up without alarm
[17:53] <nigelb> czajkowski: even on the day after allstars?
[17:53] <nigelb> well, you may not have slept at all, that doesn't count
[17:53] <elky> nigelb, well you got the sweet bit, but it's a bit sad sounding
[17:53] <darkrose> http://www.archive.org/details/ChildrenSongsVol1 ?
[17:53] <czajkowski> nigelb: nope woke at 6:15am
[17:54] <czajkowski> alarm was set fpr 6:45
[17:54] <nigelb> czajkowski: WOW!
[17:56] <nigelb> elky: http://www.jamendo.com/en/?p=tags is better
[17:56] <Pendulum> czajkowski: true to form my body knew what time it was and I was up at 6 this morning without an alarm
[17:56] <czajkowski> Pendulum: aye likewise
[17:56] <nigelb> elky: it lets you select what type of music you want, YMMV though
[17:57] <nigelb> elky: http://www.jamendo.com/en/?m=player&url=album%2F37705 I like :)
[17:59] <nigelb> http://www.jamendo.com/en/?m=player&url=album%2F44759 - this sounds good too
[17:59]  * nigelb really goes to sleep
[19:40] <elky> There were 58 voters registered and 46 vote sets were validated by email tokens. <-- already ... compared to last time --> There were 70 voters registered and 55 vote sets were validated by email tokens.
[20:08] <pleia2> nice :)
[20:08] <pleia2> people like pictures
[20:12] <elky> a lot quicker than reading a heap of text, yeah
[20:24] <czajkowski> pleia2: you made it back :D
[20:30] <pleia2> czajkowski: thanks! you too
[20:30] <czajkowski> aye
[20:30] <czajkowski> been chilling all day long
[20:30] <pleia2> had a flight delay and then a nervous wait through standby on a connecting flight since I missed mine, but all is well
[20:30] <pleia2> darn ash clouds :)
[20:31] <czajkowski> aye
[20:32] <czajkowski> our airports are all shut again
[21:53] <elky> in 6.5hrs we have now exceeded the IWD voters.