[04:22] <linner> you?
[04:22] <vladuz976> ZBlach: if you like windows, yeah. use that
[04:22] <ZBlach> vladuz976, don
[04:22] <aieee> but it more faster than the oder software dat i've used cesarin
[04:22] <ZBlach> vladuz976, don't like win, but it works and has great tech support
[04:22] <d33p> in which apt source for ubuntu should the package w32codecs be?
[04:22] <Lord_Athur> hi
[04:23] <cesarin> aieee, whats faster?
[04:23] <vladuz976> ZBlach: which you pay for
[04:23] <aieee>  much faster in connection
[04:23] <concept10> d33p, dont believe that the w32codecs package is in the repos anymore.
[04:23] <cesarin> aa ic
[04:23] <aieee>  coz im using dial up connection
[04:23] <cesarin> concept10, its on a bitorrent site lately
[04:23] <d33p> concept10, so how do I watch files with those codecs?
[04:23] <ZBlach> vladuz976, 4x copies of XP Pro, 2x XP Home, 2x ME, 1x 2000, 2x 98 & 8 shares. MSFT is mine~! ^_^
[04:24] <cesarin> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ <-- for the win32 codecs
[04:24] <cesarin> and I think its on themultiverse repository too
[04:24] <aieee>  how can i add  some friends here in ubutu cesarin?
[04:24] <tga> w32codecs
[04:24] <cesarin> aieee, add like in what?
[04:25] <Pmancgv> xopa People
[04:25] <tga> ZBlach, win has great tech support? what are you smoking?
[04:26] <Pmancgv> How are you
[04:26] <cesarin> windows great support? what a bad joke :P
[04:26] <aieee> like in yahoo chat  how can i invite my friends ?
[04:26] <BiggieSmalls> does anyone know if there is a wayto get the nvidia glx drivers to work in breezy?
[04:26] <DonL> must go play with my recently recovered system. Bye for now
[04:26] <cesarin> if you install patch, garantee ends.. if you dont install patches, garantee ends.. :P
[04:27] <NeoChaosX> Is there anybody who doesn't get the Ubuntu logo on their menu or menu bar after today's artwork update?
[04:27] <concept10> Anyone know a official statement on why the w32codecs were removed?
[04:27] <cesarin> well I think DM must be in windoze now, I think ill go to windoze too, so I can play some CS source, until I fix the goodamn cedega :P
[04:27] <aieee>  wer can i find it
[04:27] <cesarin> NeoChaosX, never had a ubuntu logo on the menu o_O
[04:27] <ZBlach> tga, I call them, and they fix it. thats great tech support
[04:28] <ZBlach> unlike getting jerked around by linksys or rogers
[04:28] <NeoChaosX> Cesarin: there's a thread in ubuntu forums about it
[04:28] <Lord_Athur> Hi
[04:28] <cesarin> NeoChaosX, but always had it since I installed breezy, so I dont think its a problem for me
[04:28] <NeoChaosX> the new artwork updates supposedly change the gnome foot to the ubuntu logo on the gnome menus
[04:28] <NeoChaosX> Odd
[04:28] <csthepoet> I need sound!! ahhhhh
[04:28] <csthepoet> someone help me!!
[04:28] <ZBlach> csthepoet, alsamixer
[04:28] <csthepoet> hahaha
[04:28] <cesarin> well anyway im gone
[04:28] <aieee> cesarin may i know ur age ?
[04:29] <csthepoet> ZBlach, i tried that
[04:29] <cesarin> aieee,  dude, you're asking for ASL :P
[04:29] <ZBlach> csthepoet, i guess your're screwed
[04:29] <cesarin> that trick wont work for me ;)
[04:29] <ZBlach> ;)
[04:29] <cesarin> I love ZBlach's way of helping.. its so.... inspiring ;)
[04:29] <csthepoet> ZBlach, really? why? it doesn't find my sound card
[04:29] <aieee> coz i don t know u
[04:29] <aieee>  dats y i m asking
[04:29] <ZBlach> does it find it?
[04:30] <ZBlach> System > Admin > Device Manager
[04:30] <cesarin> csthepoet, you did even check if your hardware was supported?
[04:30] <cesarin> anyway later guys, im gone!!
[04:30] <csthepoet> cesarin, i don't know
[04:30] <ZBlach> csthepoet, i'm guessing an audigy2?
[04:30] <csthepoet> i just installed ubuntu out of the blue to try it out
[04:31] <Licker> whats the command to open and give editing rights to myself to edit Sources.list
[04:31] <Licker> ?
[04:31] <csthepoet> ZBlach, what is that
[04:31] <ZBlach> csthepoet, its a sound card >_>
[04:31] <BiggieSmalls> does anyone know if there is a wayto get the nvidia glx drivers to work in breezy?
[04:31] <NeoChaosX> Licker: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <_jason> Licker:  sudo gedit sources.lst
[04:31] <csthepoet> ZBlach, actually i dont know what my sound card it
[04:31] <ZBlach> csthepoet ...
[04:31] <ZBlach> ok
[04:31] <aieee> guys how long  ur using this ubuntu????
[04:31] <csthepoet> ZBlach, i own a toshiba satelite laptop
[04:32] <ZBlach> aieee, using ubuntu? a month. using it well? dunno yet
[04:32] <Licker> thanx neo-Jason
[04:32] <karen> HELLO---- everytime I minimize something it does not go into my panel, it just disappears. Why am i not able to send it to sit at the bottom of my rest panel?
[04:33] <ZBlach> karen, depending on the prog, it may minimize to an icon at the top
[04:33] <csthepoet> ZBlach, i'm looking it up now
[04:34] <karen_> actually it does't minimize anywhere it just goes off to  the bottom right of my screen
[04:34] <karen_> how can i fix that
[04:35] <misfit-puppy> but now I'm a puppy grrrrrr
[04:35] <ZBlach> i like to kick puppies
[04:35] <misfit-puppy> ZBlach: really?
[04:35] <ZBlach> but not in the IRC like manner of thinking
[04:35] <misfit-puppy> how cruel!
[04:35] <misfit-puppy> lol
[04:36] <misfit-puppy> ZBlach: just bbq them
[04:36] <ZBlach> i'm just evil. >:)
[04:36] <ZBlach> a bbq'd puppy is not the same as a hot dog
[04:36] <misfit-puppy> pretty slick little distro here, now if only the kid down the street would get off his drum set for the nite.
[04:36] <misfit-puppy> god
[04:36] <ZBlach> gotta nuke puppies for that
[04:37] <csthepoet> ZBlach, Realtek ALC250 sound is my sound card
[04:37] <aieee> ah oki tnx ZB
[04:37] <aieee>  ZB i dont hav any idea how to use this ubuntu
[04:37] <aieee> ZB how can i change the color of my font?
[04:37] <ZBlach> is it supported?
[04:37] <aieee> i just click one of this an d here i am in this room
[04:37] <ZBlach> aieee, in what?
[04:37] <csthepoet> ZBlach, i don't know how do i find out
[04:37] <ZBlach> ubout, tell csthepoet about supported soundcards
[04:37] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell csthepoet about supported soundcards
[04:38] <kyle_> so, I just installed Ubuntu, and it won't let me go above 1024x768, and everything's flickering :(
[04:38] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell csthepoet about soundcards
[04:38] <kyle_> GeForce 6800, for the record
[04:38] <jxpx> karen_
[04:38] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell csthepoet about sound
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> ZBlach, stop
[04:38] <misfit-puppy> heh
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> por favor
[04:38] <ZBlach> nomasteryoda|w, sorry. the last few things didn't work
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> hehe
[04:38] <ZBlach> oh and, ubotu, tell nomasteryoda|w about #ubuntu-es
[04:38] <atripathi> while fixing my display I deleted xorg files ........ still my display is running on lower resolution as earlier. I thought that either X will crash or regenerate xorg files but none happened
[04:38] <BiggieSmalls> does anyone know if there is a wayto get the nvidia glx drivers to work in breezy?
[04:39] <jxpx> Karen_
[04:39] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell me about recursion
[04:39] <atripathi> is there any way to get the xorg.conf files again ?
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> muchas gracias.... me no speaka espanol
[04:39] <durt> atripathi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> just playing with ya
[04:39] <ZBlach> ubotu, recursion is tell ubotu about recursion
[04:39] <ubotu> okay, ZBlach
[04:39] <atripathi> that crashes X
[04:39] <kyle_> hey... it all stopped shimmering
[04:40] <kyle_> yay
[04:40] <MadpilotPPC> ZBlach, that's an evil thing to tell the bot... but funny ;)
[04:40] <durt> run that outside of x then
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> atripathi, try ... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:40] <misfit-puppy> !tell ZBlach about ubunut
[04:40] <ZBlach> !seen ubunut
[04:40] <ubotu> ZBlach: i haven't seen 'ubunut'
[04:40] <misfit-puppy> heh
[04:40] <atripathi> nomasteryoda: I tried but it crashes my X
[04:41] <atripathi> it adds some wrong configurations I guess
[04:41] <durt> atripathi, then answer the questions differently
[04:41] <atripathi> i am gonna do it for the last time now......if it crashes out again....I will reinstall
[04:42] <atripathi> I hope it gets fixed in new release
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> crud
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> i think he needed more help...
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> oh well, he'll be back
[04:43] <ubunut> I [heart]  ubuntu ^_^~~~
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> ubunut? lol
[04:43] <ZBlach> wow. what was that?
[04:43] <ZBlach> !seen ubunut
[04:43] <ubotu> ubunut<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 27s ago, saying: 'I [heart]  ubuntu ^_^~~~'.
[04:43] <ZBlach> wow. the legend is true
[04:44] <kyle_> so
[04:44] <kyle_> not to expose my noobness, but what do I do with a .run
[04:45] <kyle_> that is, a friend of mine is wondering how to install his vid drivers...
[04:45] <MadpilotPPC> kyle_, double-click on it, usually. A .run of what, though?
[04:45] <kyle_> Nvidia drivers... says NVIDIA-blah-blah-blah-pkg2.run
[04:45] <god-zero> kyle_: sudo ./nameoffole.run to install
[04:45] <kyle_> double-clicking brings up the text editor complaining
[04:46] <kyle_> cool, thanks God
[04:46] <kyle_> (err... lol)
[04:46] <durt> kyle_ its easier to use the nvidia-glx package
[04:46] <jxpx> ?? java
[04:46] <kyle_> durt, how do I go about that?
[04:47] <dm> OMg guys im about to wipe my hard drive... this is so annoying, i cant get back to windows . Can ANYONE Help me, i already tried to  edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and it didnt do shit.
[04:47] <dm> im utterly disturbed with how hard it is to do a simple task in ubuntu
[04:47] <durt> kyle_: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:47] <none_> use a windows boot disk
[04:47] <csthepoet> ZBlach, hey my sound card is combatible
[04:48] <n00bster> is there a program like irfanview for linux /
[04:48] <n00bster> is there a program like irfanview for linux ?
[04:48] <procrastinationn> what is pub_key ?
[04:48] <kyle_> durt: you are my hero. thanks
[04:48] <MadpilotPPC> n00bster, gThumb - it's included by default in Ubuntu, I think
[04:48] <csthepoet> ZBlach, i went to that site you gave me and i did all the things it said to check compatibility and it tells me how to make it work but it's too much for me
[04:48] <dm> i dont have  awindows boot disk, except the instal disk, but WHY CANT I GET TO WINDOWS, i have Grub 1.5 but i cant enter the setup like i did earlier this morning.. Can anyone help me
[04:49] <n00bster> thank you, i'll rtay it ..
[04:49] <MadpilotPPC> n00bster, or EyeOfGnome, which I know is included but which isn't as good as gThumb
[04:49] <procrastinationn> i need some advice
[04:49] <durt> eog isnt as good as gthumb? ...
[04:50] <dm> OMg guys im about to wipe my hard drive... this is so annoying, i cant get back to windows . Can ANYONE Help me, i already tried to  edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and it didnt do shit.
[04:50] <procrastinationn> can anyone help me
[04:50] <none_> dm, so download one
[04:50] <MadpilotPPC> durt, not IMO... gThumb is faster and has far more features...
[04:50] <n00bster> ok, i'll tray the first one, first . ty
[04:50] <wweasel> Hey guys, I need help with my WiFi. It acts odd. I get good connection but it takes forever to load pages. Sometimes works nicely, sometimes about 30 seconds, sometimes just ping timeout. Works fine in windows, works fine wired. ideas?
[04:50] <none_> why not just stick with linux?
[04:50] <durt> eog is some much simpler though
[04:50] <procrastinationn> grub automatically detected my windows
[04:50] <BiggieSmalls> anyone here get the nvidia drivers or nvidia-glx to work in breezy?
[04:50] <jmg> hmm
[04:50] <boxerboy29> what is ubuntu's grafical installer called?
[04:51] <dm> none_ why would i need a boot disk, Isnt there a setting in GRUB to be able to choose which boot menu to access
[04:51] <none_> dm, yes
[04:51] <boxerboy29> the update installer
[04:51] <n00bster> hmm, trayed it, it's not ecsectlly like irfan, it's have no simple editing capabilities
[04:51] <none_> title Windows 2000 SP4
[04:51] <none_> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[04:51] <none_> chainloader +1
[04:51] <none_> something like that
[04:51] <dm> none_ how do i set that up
[04:51] <Licker> is there a way to BURN Iso files in linux?
[04:51] <none_> it should already be in the grub conf file
[04:52] <none_> Licker, k3b is good
[04:52] <n00bster> to make long story short, i need a simple Graphic Editor, (like ..MSpainr)
[04:52] <none_> cdrecord
[04:52] <csthepoet> can anyone help me fix my sound
[04:52] <n00bster> Mspaint*
[04:52] <god-zero> Licker: right click the iso's icon
[04:52] <procrastinationn> ok when sudo apt-get update it fails saying i dont have the pub_key
[04:52] <thoreauputic> Licker: just right-click the file in the file manager, choose burn... simple
[04:52] <none_> n00bster, xv is relatively simple
[04:53] <johnathan> hello every one
[04:53] <n00bster> is it in thr packeg manager ?
[04:53] <dm> ill try that, ill be back
[04:53] <csthepoet> i have no sound! ahhh
[04:53] <csthepoet> haha
[04:53] <csthepoet> can anyone help me with my sound
[04:53] <none_> n00bster, i don't think so
[04:53] <sheepy> wats wrong with it?
[04:53] <procrastinationn> i need help getting mp3s to play
[04:53] <BiggieSmalls> can anyone help me with my videocard?
[04:54] <Licker> oh allright
[04:54] <Licker> thanx guys
[04:54] <sheepy> www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:54] <sunandrain> install mplayer to player mp3s
[04:54] <procrastinationn> thats it
[04:54] <sheepy> look at media codecs
[04:54] <MadpilotPPC> !tell procrastinationn about mp3
[04:54] <MadpilotPPC> !tell sheepy about ubuntuguide
[04:54] <procrastinationn> i tried installing the codecs but something fails the pub_key is needed it says
[04:55] <n00bster> issent eny other simple photo editor, insted of the compli\cated gimp
[04:55] <karen_> HELP PLEASE---- trying to get things to minimize to the bottom of my tool bar. For some reason they disappear whenever i minimize anything.
[04:55] <robbkidd> Anyone using Ubuntu for TeX/LaTeX document generation?
[04:55] <_jason> Does anyone here use d4x with flashgot in firefox?
[04:55] <procrastinationn> karen that happended to me
[04:55] <MadpilotPPC> n00bster, gThumb will do resizing, rotations and stuff like that
[04:55] <BiggieSmalls> can anyone help me with my videocard?
[04:56] <none_> n00bster, try xpaint as well
[04:56] <_jason> robbkidd:  I just isntalled tetex but haven't had a chance to make any tex documents
[04:56] <none_> xpaint is exactly what you need
[04:56] <thoreauputic> karen_: right click the tool bar, in the list of applets look for "window list" and add it
[04:56] <procrastinationn> how do i open up universe
[04:56] <none_> uncomment the universe line in sources.list
[04:56] <MadpilotPPC> !repos
[04:56] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:56] <karen_> PRO---- how did you fix it?
[04:56] <durt> whats the point of learning tex when you can use texmacs? just wondering
[04:56] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, see ubotu above ^^^
[04:56] <none_> gpaint
[04:56] <none_> also
[04:56] <esac> has anybody here used gensplash/splashutils ?
[04:57] <procrastinationn> none what do you me
[04:57] <durt> and mtpaint
[04:57] <god-zero> n00bster: gpaint, kolourpaint, krita.................
[04:57] <thoreauputic> karen_: see my suggestion above
[04:57] <sheepy> !faq
[04:57] <ubotu> faq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[04:57] <n00bster> ok, i will.
[04:57] <n00bster> :}
[04:57] <sheepy> is anyone here on breezy right now
[04:57] <sheepy> ???
[04:57] <none_> yes
[04:57] <esac> me !
[04:57] <procrastinationn> none what do you mean
[04:58] <sheepy> any problems lately?
[04:58] <none_> procrastinationn, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:58] <durt> xpaint looks good
[04:58] <sheepy> i was thinking about upgrading this afternoon
[04:58] <karen_> Thor------no window list
[04:58] <procrastinationn> i know that but you said uncomment something
[04:58] <none_> procrastinationn, type this: sudo echo " deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe" >>/etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <none_> make sure you use >>
[04:59] <MadpilotPPC> !tell procrastinationn about repos
[04:59] <none_> change breezy to hoary
[04:59] <none_> depending on what you are using
[04:59] <navyn> hey guys
[04:59] <procrastinationn> none permission denied
[04:59] <none_> use sudo
[04:59] <navyn> are the backports up yet?
[04:59] <thoreauputic> karen_: choose "add to panel" and scroll down
[05:00] <none_> procrastinationn, are you using breezy or hoary?
[05:00] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, see the msg ubotu just sent you, it's got all the details on adding repositories
[05:00] <procrastinationn> hoary
[05:00] <ericz> !tell ericz about repos
[05:00] <none_> change breezy in that line to hoary
[05:00] <csthepoet> i just installed ubuntu on my toshiba laptop but i have no sound, i've tried the whole alsamixer but it doesn't pick up my sound card can anyone help me on that
[05:00] <none_> then do it
[05:00] <sheepy> !repos
[05:00] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:00] <none_>  sudo echo " deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe" >>/etc/apt/sources.list
[05:00] <none_> that
[05:00] <none_> don't forget >>
[05:01] <ericz> none_ what does that do?
[05:01] <none_> then sudo apt-get update
[05:01] <sheepy> is compiling packages from source available in ubuntu?
[05:01] <MadpilotPPC> sheepy, of course. But there's a staggering amount of stuff in the repos already...
[05:01] <robbkidd> "sudo echo"?  ... Ha!  Loved their remake of Funky Town.
[05:01] <thoreauputic> sheepy: of course
[05:01] <none_> ericz, it add the line in quotation marks to sources.list
[05:01] <sheepy> yeah, i just noticed the source repos today
[05:01] <procrastinationn> still getting denied
[05:02] <n00bster> OK, xpaint did the trick for me :{ ty all
[05:02] <ericz> what good is that line in sources.list tohugh? does it install breezy or something?
[05:02] <none_> you aren't using sudo then
[05:02] <karen_> ahhhh--- thanks so much Thoreauputic--- it was driving me nuts. you're a smarty!!!
[05:02] <procrastinationn> i am
[05:02] <MadpilotPPC> !sudo
[05:02] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:02] <johnson> !tell johnson about w32codecs
[05:02] <thoreauputic> karen_: I had the same thing happen to me about a year ago ;)
[05:02] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, have you read the Sudo howto - the rootsudo page ubotu's got above?
[05:02] <none_> ericz, it makes apt get the package index for the universe repositories
[05:02] <procrastinationn> no
[05:02] <robbkidd> sudo is your friend.
[05:03] <robbkidd> Do not taunt happy, fun sudo.
[05:03] <Strog> or a good aquaintance at least
[05:03] <karen_> well i'm new to all this and it gets too complicated for me.  It seems everyone is so much younger than myself and knows so much more than i do.
[05:03] <procrastinationn> why am i getting denied
[05:04] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, which password are you trying to use w/ sudo?
[05:04] <Strog> karen_: You learn a little here and there and put it together. It's a progressive thing
[05:04] <Strog> :)
[05:04] <procrastinationn> it dont ask for a password
[05:04] <thoreauputic> karen_: you'll learn stuff - and not all of us were so young when we started ;)
[05:04] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, are you using a regular terminal or a root term? (don't use a root terminal...)
[05:04] <karen_> how old are you mr. thoreauputic?
[05:05] <thoreauputic> karen_: 53 :)
[05:05] <karen_> ahhh
[05:05] <procrastinationn> i think im using reg not sure only had linux for a week
[05:06] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, close the terminal you're using, and go Applications --> System Tools --> Terminal (just to make sure you're not in a Root Term by accident...)
[05:06] <procrastinationn> i only use windows for xbox tunnelling
[05:06] <karen_> here i was thinking this chatroom was full of kiddies
[05:06] <none_> karen, it is not so hard
[05:06] <karen_> i say we have a computer party and everyone come show me what the hell i'm doing
[05:06] <karen_> haha
[05:06] <CarlFK> hey karen
[05:07] <none_> once you understand the underlying principles it will become easy
[05:07] <MadpilotPPC> karen, you pick up bits and pieces, and before you know it you're giving bad advice to the *real* newbies here on #ubuntu...
[05:07] <procrastinationn> dont have a terminal in systemtools
[05:07] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, should be 2nd from the bottom of the System Tools menu, at least in Hoary
[05:07] <karen_> Carl----- you are the first invited to the computer party
[05:07] <karen_> well so far i've gotten good advice
[05:08] <CarlFK> heh - will there be food?
[05:08] <hondje> That's because I've been afk
[05:08] <procrastinationn> negative
[05:08] <karen_> Carl--- do you work any other way?
[05:08] <procrastinationn> no terminal
[05:08] <CarlFK> just making sure
[05:08] <Toma-> how can i stop ubuntu from loading the ipv6 module?
[05:08] <procrastinationn> im running 5.10 ubuntu
[05:08] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, in Applications menu - System Tools? Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:08] <none_> karen, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxkernel/
[05:09] <karen_> Carl--- glad you showed me this chatroom stuff-- these people talk me through something new every day
[05:09] <hondje> Toma-: You can blacklist it, I think
[05:09] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, ah, OK. I know some stuff has changed in 5.10 - I'm still running 5.04 (Hoary) here
[05:09] <karen_> none-- what is that and will it blow up my computer?
[05:09] <procrastinationn> cant i just go to sources list and uncomment it
[05:10] <dallas_> I am looking for some help installing ubuntu on my laptop?
[05:11] <Toma-> blacklist u say?
[05:11] <procrastinationn> yo none brb
[05:11] <Wimpie> need some help with case preservation and vfat filesystem : I want to 'touch XXX' and create a file 'XXX' and not 'xxx' ?
[05:11] <hondje> does vfat recognize cases?
[05:11] <none_> karen, it's a book on the linux kernel
[05:12] <durt> this is not the place for that wimpie ;)
[05:12] <none_> if you understand how the kernel functions then you understand the entire system
[05:12] <Wimpie> yes and no : some files have capitals others don't. I just want to understand how to create these mixed filenames
[05:13] <Wimpie> durt : probably, but I am basically looking for linux users with experience
[05:13] <procrastinationn> none im back
[05:13] <thoreauputic> hondje: no
[05:13] <hondje> whew, glad I'm not crazy :)
[05:13] <hondje> Well, I am, but yeah
[05:13] <CarlFK> karen_ - whats the deal with minimizing windows to the bar?
[05:13] <none_> Wimpie ??
[05:13] <procrastinationn> ok i just want to open the universe and get mp3 play back
[05:14] <Wimpie> well if I do 'ls' I get files all small some mixed and some upper
[05:14] <karen> Carl--- everything was disappearing---- now i can minimize and come back to it.  Your friends here talked me through it.
[05:14] <Wimpie> these files were created under XP
[05:14] <none_> yes?
[05:14] <Wimpie> and I wonder HOW i can create these files under LINUX
[05:14] <CarlFK> karen - well talk me though it, cuz I never noticed that they disapeared like that, and now I am bothered ;)
[05:15] <none_> what sort of files?
[05:15] <red_blood> hello people! how i can use my TV OUT? i have a Nvidia Gforce 4 mx 440 128 mb TV out... thanks
[05:15] <Toma--> how do u stop modules from loading? namely vesafb and ipv6?
[05:15] <ericz> none, i added that repository thing wth the command you gave earlier... what good does it do me?
[05:15] <Wimpie> any files (data and dirs)
[05:15] <karen> Carl -- did you ever read up on my camera?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Toma--: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[05:15] <durt> toma, have you blacklisted it?
[05:15] <red_blood> !tv
[05:15] <ubotu> red_blood: Are you smoking crack?
[05:15] <Toma--> ahh hotplug
[05:15] <Toma--> thanks
[05:15] <none_> ericz, run apt-get update.. now you can use apt-get to install many more applications
[05:15] <red_blood> !tvout
[05:15] <ubotu> red_blood: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:16] <ericz> i did run apt-get update
[05:16] <ericz> nothing seemed different
[05:16] <CarlFK> karen - um... no.   I knew there was some stuff I needed to do.  Ill give it a shot right now
[05:16] <procrastinationn> none
[05:16] <none_> it is
[05:16] <hondje> red_blood: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaTVOut
[05:16] <none_> procrastinationn, type sudo bash
[05:16] <n00bster> i have download somthind from amule  and it says that it's save win a certain path..
[05:17] <procrastinationn> when i follow the ubuntu guide to installing codecs it gives me and error
[05:17] <n00bster> now the path is accessible fron terminal but not from GileBrowser, whay/
[05:17] <esac> yay, i got gensplash working with a custom theme in ubuntu !
[05:17] <hondje> procrastinationn: use the wiki
[05:17] <none_> what is the error
[05:17] <n00bster> FileBrowser*
[05:17] <hondje> !tell procrastinationn about restricted
[05:17] <sri> so who do I talk to about bluetooth support for ubuntu?
[05:17] <karen> Carl-- i know you've been busy.  Just let me know if you learn anything.
[05:17] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, don't use ubuntuguide...
[05:17] <MadpilotPPC> !+ubuntuguide
[05:17] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[05:17] <procrastinationn> ok
[05:17] <ericz> actually 4 of my repositories show up as 404... mirrormax or something
[05:17] <MadpilotPPC> !wiki
[05:18] <jsubl2> karen did you try just plugging the camera in and seeing if you get a new icon on the desktop
[05:18] <procrastinationn> my bad i meant ubuntu wiki.org
[05:18] <none_> ericz, you need to remove them from /etc/apt/sources.list in that case
[05:18] <csthepoet> can anyone tell me here what modprode is?
[05:18] <ericz> they worked just the other day though, it's odd
[05:18] <esac> does anybody have any cool gensplash/fbsplash themes that i can use (nothing gentoo specific, although the one in the live cd is really cool)
[05:18] <MrGardenHoseMan> is there a tutorial on how to set up a static ip?
[05:18] <none_> csthepoet, a module loader
[05:18] <jsubl2> karen plug in and turn it on of course
[05:18] <procrastinationn> now im in root
[05:18] <procrastinationn> sudo bash puts me in root
[05:18] <hondje> csthepoet: modules are linux talk for what are commonly called drivers in windows
[05:18] <hondje> while CUPS is a driver
[05:18] <csthepoet> none_,  and how would i do that to do snd-intel8x0
[05:18] <none_> procrastinationn,  echo " deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe" >>/etc/apt/sources.list
[05:18] <none_> try that
[05:18] <MadpilotPPC> ericz, I think there's been some changes with the backports - mirrormax may have gone away...
[05:19] <csthepoet> haha
[05:19] <none_> csthepoet, sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[05:19] <csthepoet> sorry if i make no sense
[05:19] <ericz> the site still exists, i went to it n firefox... the directories like "hoary" and stuff are all empty though...
[05:19] <procrastinationn> none i think it worked what did i do ?
[05:19] <karen> Jsub---- Carl (also in room) he tried numerous things to get my camera to work--- give him some suggestions.
[05:19] <none_> procrastinationn, you added the line to sources.list
[05:19] <none_> now run apt-get update
[05:19] <csthepoet> none_, thanks
[05:19] <procrastinationn> ok
[05:19] <none_> then you should be able to download the packages for mp3 decoding
[05:20] <none_> that work, csthepoet ?
[05:20] <n00bster> How Can I Make All Hidden Files In "Home" Visible ?
[05:20] <hondje> n00bster: if you're using nautilus, ctrl-H. In a terminal, ls -a
[05:20] <none_> n00bster, there's usually an option for that
[05:20] <thoreauputic> n00bster: hit ctrl-h
[05:20] <csthepoet> none_, i typed that in but nothing happend
[05:20] <procrastinationn> im still getting an error
[05:20] <none_> did it go back to the command line?
[05:20] <none_> what error, procrastinationn ?
[05:20] <n00bster> ok, i'll tray it ..
[05:21] <procrastinationn> can i paste it
[05:21] <MadpilotPPC> !+paste
[05:21] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:21] <none_> csthepoet.. lsmod|grep intel
[05:21] <n00bster> ahaaaaa Eureka ! got it :}
[05:21] <hondje> anyone find the latest kernel for breezy to barf up buffer errors for hdds?
[05:22] <csthepoet> none_, ok it's in there a bunch of times
[05:22] <ericz> i just commented [in gedit]  out the mirrormax backport repositories or whatever that were giving me 404
[05:22] <procrastinationn> none it says i need a pub_key
[05:22] <none_> those are all the intel drivers then
[05:22] <none_> look for the one you just loaded
[05:22] <none_> procrastinationn, use the main site
[05:23] <procrastinationn> i am
[05:23] <procrastinationn> ubuntu.org
[05:23] <csthepoet> none_, see i was in the linux room asking for help for my sound and the guy there told me to do that
[05:23] <n00bster> so Ctl+H did the trick. Is THere A list of shortcuts for Nautilus oe enything els ?
[05:23] <none_> procrastinationn, then i'm not sure
[05:23] <csthepoet> none_, how exactly does that help for my sound>
[05:23] <procrastinationn> lol
[05:23] <yaaar> word
[05:23] <procrastinationn> well thnx for helpin
[05:23] <hondje> http://live.gnome.org/PowerUserTools
[05:23] <none_> i have never seen that error
[05:24] <none_> csthepoet, it loads the intel i8x0 sound driver
[05:24] <procrastinationn> right after its done reading the packages it fails
[05:24] <csthepoet> none_, oh ok
[05:24] <none_> i'd have to see the actual error
[05:24] <csthepoet> none_, thanks
[05:24] <none_> good luck
[05:24] <procrastinationn> i dont know how to use the paste ish
[05:24] <none_> it's simple
[05:24] <none_> paste it and give the url
[05:25] <csthepoet> none_, my sound still doesn't work ahh
[05:25] <Toma--> well i blacklisted those modules and restarted. still getting loaded
[05:25] <none_> csthepoet, alsamixer
[05:25] <none_> make sure the volume is up
[05:25] <csthepoet> none_, maybe you would know does are ATI sound cards compatible with ubuntu>?
[05:25] <none_> cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp
[05:25] <csthepoet> none_, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:25] <Toma--> should i remove the aliases in /etc/modprobe.d ?
[05:26] <durt> toma-- have you tried "rmmod ipv6"?
[05:26] <none_> csthepoet, ATI releases drivers for linux, so probably
[05:26] <none_> dunno for sure
[05:26] <thoreauputic> milisdad: not a good move to IRC as root
[05:26] <Toma--> durt: i could but thats too mess and id have to make a startup scipt :(
[05:26] <Toma--> *messy
[05:27] <none_> csthepoet, well, i don't think ATI uses the i8x0 chipset
[05:27] <procrastinationn> how do i get out of root in my terminal
[05:27] <none_> not the driver you need
[05:27] <Toma--> procrastinationn: exit
[05:27] <none_> lspci -v
[05:27] <none_> look to see what device you have
[05:27] <procrastinationn> kool
[05:27] <durt> making a startup script isnt hard or messy toma
[05:27] <jsubl2> White Sox 3, Indians 2
[05:27] <csthepoet> none_, yea?
[05:27] <s3rp3nt> I just recently came into posession of an AS/400, What should i run on it?
[05:27] <Toma--> durt: it also says its in use
[05:27] <csthepoet> none_, so that was no good then huh?
[05:28] <durt> oh
[05:28] <none_> nope
[05:28] <none_> not good
[05:28] <csthepoet> hmm
[05:28] <none_> but if you paste the exact name of your card i can find out what module you need to load
[05:28] <geneo93> s3rp3nt:  depends on what model it is
[05:28] <s3rp3nt> 4904
[05:28] <csthepoet> none_, if i tell you the exact sound card i have do you think you would know how to help me?
[05:28] <glyn> Anyone know why I can't connect to Nicotine?
[05:28] <s3rp3nt> quad alphas
[05:28] <csthepoet> haha i didnt' catch that
[05:28] <none_> yes
[05:28] <csthepoet> sorry
[05:28] <csthepoet> haha
[05:29] <none_> it's cool
[05:29] <procrastinationn> what does it mean by signatures couldnt be verrified because of no pub key
[05:29] <hondje> Debian should run on that
[05:29] <geneo93> s3rp3nt:  i think all that will run on that is ibms aix
[05:29] <csthepoet>  ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audi o Controller
[05:29] <none_> procrastinationn, apt can't verify the index files
[05:29] <s3rp3nt> Or anyone know anyone who would like to buy it?
[05:29] <none_> so you can't trust them
[05:29] <procrastinationn> well that is the error
[05:30] <none_> there should be another reference to audio, csthepoet
[05:30] <hondje> ebay it ;)
[05:30] <durt> toma: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html
[05:30] <durt> darn it
[05:30] <geneo93> s3rp3nt:  that has a pci side and server side ??
[05:31] <none_> csthepoet, modprobe ac97
[05:31] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a way for me to set my firewall to be off automatically when i boot up?
[05:31] <ripgut> hey guys is there anyway one can open network tools via the terminal in ubuntu?
[05:31] <glyn> Anyone know why I can't connect to Nicotine?
[05:31] <none_> modprobe snd_ac97 modprobe snd_ac97_codec
[05:31] <none_> try those too
[05:31] <none_> use sudo
[05:32] <s3rp3nt> yes, believe so... it wont be in my apartment until tomorrow though.. then i can tell you everything about it
[05:32] <ripgut> guys?
[05:32] <procrastinationn> so none sorry to bug you,how make it so it will verrify
[05:32] <pl_ice> any one tried to play game thief 3 ?
[05:32] <Fr0Gs> in samba is there a way to get a samba password without changing it
[05:32] <none_> procrastinationn, i'm not sure what that error means, so i am clueless
[05:32] <procrastinationn> ok ill stop buggin ya
[05:32] <Fr0Gs> with samba is there a way to get a samba password without changing it
[05:32] <Fr0Gs> ?
[05:33] <geneo93> ibm just released a version of linux for some newer AS400's afaik
[05:33] <csthepoet> none_, ok done
[05:34] <s3rp3nt> i was given the server 2 terminals a dozen dat tapes and twin dat drivers plus monitor and keyboard.
[05:34] <thoreauputic> hi linner :)
[05:34] <none_> not try running alsamixer
[05:34] <hondje> can't go wrong just calling IBM, they've alway been quite friendly in my experience
[05:34] <none_> now that is
[05:34] <ripgut> guys?
[05:34] <none_> ?
[05:34] <odd-> ??
[05:34] <can8dn> 2 quick questions: AMD64 + ATI X800XL supported???
[05:34] <none_> ???
[05:34] <odd-> ????
[05:34] <none_> ?????
[05:34] <ripgut> my friends ubuntu machine wont let him open network tools so he can choose his wifinic card
[05:34] <csthepoet> hahaha
[05:34] <odd-> ??????
[05:34] <geneo93> last i heard it was to cost around 12,000 dollars
[05:34] <ripgut> what can he do
[05:35] <s3rp3nt> wonder if they'll just buy the f*r back
[05:35] <csthepoet> are those for me?
[05:35] <csthepoet> haha
[05:35] <odd-> No.
[05:35] <odd-> We're trying to outpwn eachother.
[05:35] <odd-> Hey none_
[05:35] <odd-> great ?'s.
[05:35] <none_> did alsamixer run csthepoet ?
[05:35] <odd-> ;)
[05:35] <none_> you too
[05:35] <geneo93> s3rp3nt:  i doubt it its quite old
[05:35] <can8dn> does ubuntu support amd64 and the ati x800xl?
[05:35] <csthepoet> none_, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:36] <none_> modprobe mixer
[05:36] <s3rp3nt> can8dn yes
[05:36] <none_> modprobe snd
[05:36] <thoreauputic> can8dn: amd64 yes, no idea about the ati
[05:36] <ripgut> hello?
[05:36] <none_> modprobe snd_mixer
[05:36] <none_> try those then run it again
[05:36] <ripgut> can anyone answer my question?
[05:37] <none_> csthepoet, if those don't work then i am out of ideas
[05:37] <csthepoet> none_, it says mixer not found
[05:37] <none_> ok well, skip that and try modprobe snd
[05:37] <RexKwonDo> I am trying to get Epiphany to launch XMMS whenever I select a link for a m3u playlist.  Epiphany just keeps launching mPlayer.  Any suggestions?
[05:37] <can8dn> guess the only thing to do is to download it and try it eh?
[05:37] <csthepoet> none_, modprobe snd mixer?
[05:37] <none_> just modprobe snd
[05:37] <durt> well, ripgut, why cant you run the network tools thing?
[05:37] <s3rp3nt> ripgut: what version?
[05:37] <cav> Is there a more support oriented channel for new users?
[05:37] <ripgut> it just closes when he tried to open it
[05:38] <ripgut> like it wants to open, but can't
[05:38] <thoreauputic> cav: what's you issue? This is the support channel
[05:38] <csthepoet> none_, same error
[05:38] <ripgut> how can he get ubuntu to select the wlan0 card?
[05:38] <none_> try modprobe soundcore
[05:38] <thoreauputic> cav: just ask - if someone can help they will
[05:38] <ripgut> its on l0 right now
[05:38] <none_> now i really have run out of ideas
[05:38] <ripgut> lo*
[05:39] <cav> I'm just actually using it for the first time so I'm sure I'll run into lots of issues.
[05:39] <none_> ripgut, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:39] <thoreauputic> cav: ah OK - well lots of people here can help
[05:39] <ripgut> thanks
[05:39] <thoreauputic> cav: welcome to Ubuntu :)
[05:39] <s3rp3nt> search on google or linux.com for a wireless linux tutorial will show how to configure wifi with command line tools including setting security keys
[05:40] <csthepoet> none_, ahh same error
[05:40] <MadpilotPPC> !+wifi
[05:40] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:40] <none_> csthepoet, you may have an unsupported card in that case
[05:40] <none_> or you may need to get the driver from ATI directly
[05:40] <geneo93> s3rp3nt:  i've worked on some 5270's in the past
[05:41] <none_> ubuntu loads all of the modules to see which work when it is installed
[05:41] <csthepoet> none_, this sucks
[05:41] <pluffsy> hi
[05:41] <none_> yeah
[05:41] <csthepoet> none_, do you another good distributor for laptops
[05:41] <none_> not really
[05:42] <none_> i don't have one
[05:42] <s3rp3nt> geneo93: what all languages are programmable on this thing? i know rpg, but what about c/c++/objc?
[05:42] <none_> however, some companies sell laptops designed for linux
[05:42] <none_> you'd have to search google
[05:42] <csthepoet> everything of ubuntu is perfect just that one flaw
[05:42] <csthepoet> i used fedora before ubuntu and it was really unstable
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> i'm having trouble with the firewall =\
[05:43] <odd-> I like ubuntu, it's satisfiable.
[05:43] <csthepoet> yes very
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a way to set it to not turn on when i boot up?
[05:43] <none_> well, not many companies are willing to work with linux kernel developers
[05:43] <pluffsy> I reeeally wanna like linux and ubuntu but it's sure giving me a hard time. I have tried installing ubuntu 5.04 a couple times on my powerbook and I just can't get it to work. Gnome has random problems, like nautilus more or less always not working. If I run xfce evolution doesn't work, and xfce doesn't have gui for the most basic settings. and now when I try KDE the colors are so messed up I can't even write code because it's so hard to read t
[05:43] <pluffsy> ext :(
[05:43] <geneo93> i dunno if c++ will even compile on those
[05:43] <odd-> Does anyone use hoary?
[05:43] <durt> what firewall, pickel_weasel?
[05:43] <RexKwonDo> I am trying to get Epiphany to launch XMMS whenever I select a link for a m3u playlist.  Epiphany just keeps launching mPlayer.  Any suggestions?
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> whatever default thing comes with ubuntu
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> the one built into the kernel >.>
[05:44] <s3rp3nt> whats wrong with the firewall?
[05:44] <none_> linux on laptops is problematic
[05:44] <Pickle_Weasel> i want it off
[05:44] <palcoy> i use hoary
[05:44] <Pickle_Weasel> i mean, i have it off now, but i want it to not turn on when i reboot
[05:45] <pluffsy> any ideas why the colors are mangled in kde? it seems like very dark colors but not black are replaced with random colors.'
[05:45] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: erm - it won't - unless you installed a firewall tool or something
[05:45] <durt> how did you turn it off Pickle_weasel?
[05:45] <Pickle_Weasel> well, i installed firestarter
[05:45] <Pickle_Weasel> and i turned it off through that
[05:45] <Pickle_Weasel> quite simple, but a bit of a hassle to keep doing that every time i boot
[05:45] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: Ubuntu doesn't run any servers by default ( not internet facing ones anyway)
[05:46] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[05:46] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: any reason you needed firestarter?
[05:46] <csthepoet> none_, thanks alot for your help
[05:46] <pluffsy> pretty please. any help is greatly needed.
[05:46] <Pickle_Weasel> to turn it off..
[05:46] <none_> np.. hopefully you'll get it to work
[05:46] <csthepoet> none_, it was very nice of you
[05:46] <none_> sound is important :)
[05:46] <Pickle_Weasel> the firewall is automatically on =\
[05:46] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: ar you running servers (apache, ssh etc?)
[05:46] <thoreauputic> *are
[05:47] <Pickle_Weasel> no, no i'm not
[05:47] <none_> pluffsy, linux does not do well on some laptops
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: then you don't need firestarter
[05:47] <Pickle_Weasel> but it's blocking little things that annoy me, such as azerus, or Gaim
[05:47] <none_> you may have to wait a year or two and try again
[05:47] <pluffsy> ;(
[05:47] <ruf> anybody knows an easy way to mount NTSF parts in Ubuntu via LiveCd?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: firestarter doesn't block gaim
[05:48] <none_> ruf, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdX /mnt
[05:48] <Pickle_Weasel> firestarter is not a program..it's just a front end for the built in firewall
[05:48] <Pickle_Weasel> it IS a program, i mean
[05:48] <MadpilotPPC> pluffsy, Breezy has been doing interesting things with laptop functionality - the Ubuntu project has actually sent out about 2 dozen laptops for testing...
[05:48] <Pickle_Weasel> but it's not a firewall
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel:  sudo apt-get remove --purge firestarter
[05:48] <ruf> i must be root, right?
[05:48] <Pickle_Weasel> no thank you
[05:48] <none_> Pickle_Weasel, AFAIK ubuntu does not come with a firewall
[05:48] <MadpilotPPC> ruf, use sudo rather than root
[05:48] <none_> ruf, sudo
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: I don't think you understand
[05:48] <ruf> cool mans! Thank you
[05:49] <Pickle_Weasel> ubotu: rumour has it, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel.
[05:49] <ubotu> Pickle_Weasel: I think you lost me on that one
[05:49] <Pickle_Weasel> ^
[05:49] <Pickle_Weasel> shush, bot
[05:49] <pluffsy> MadpilotPPC, alright. sounds good. but you think that will do anything for my powerbook g3 or is that just x86 laptops that are affected?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: firstarter writes an iptables script - sounds like you don't need it
[05:49] <ruf> anybody knows one portuguese IRC channel for ubuntu discuss?
[05:49] <MadpilotPPC> pluffsy, there are a couple of Apple laptops in the testing program...
[05:49] <none_> Pickle_Weasel, every distrobution does not come with a firewall
[05:49] <pluffsy> what makes laptops so special? it seems like there is always trouoble with laptops and linux
[05:49] <csthepoet> none_, i found a page that might help me
[05:49] <ruf> my english is BAD! :D
[05:49] <none_> Pickle_Weasel, iptables -F
[05:49] <durt> !portuguese
[05:49] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:49] <Pickle_Weasel> i don't know how to explain my problem
[05:49] <csthepoet> none_, http://tuxmobil.org/asus_l4500r.html
[05:50] <MadpilotPPC> pluffsy, more odd hardware config stuff than desktops, I guess
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: it just sounds like you don't need firestarter
[05:50] <csthepoet> none_, they are talking about using someting called ALSA
[05:50] <csthepoet> none_, have you heard of that before?
[05:50] <ruf> thank you all again! The anwsers come VERY FAST here! :)
[05:50] <Earthen> I installed the Ati driver for my system and it works well, but now none of my video players will work? any one know why?
[05:50] <trigger_ph> hello
[05:50] <vbgunz> I vote the searhorse documentation amongst the worse :(
[05:51] <none_> csthepoet, that is the linux sound system
[05:51] <Pickle_Weasel> ok what would be the easiest way to turn off the firewall and keep it off
[05:51] <trigger_ph> Has anyone tried creating a launcher for a bash script?
[05:51] <s3rp3nt> package for kubuntu?
[05:51] <MadpilotPPC> pluffsy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[05:51] <s3rp3nt> ermm, what is the package for kubuntu?
[05:51] <csthepoet> none_, ok can that help me with my sound problem?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: sudo apt-get remove --purge firestarter && sudo iptables -F
[05:52] <pluffsy> hmm just opening and closing the gamma settings in kde actually solved the problem with kde colors. atleast temporary.
[05:52] <none_> csthepoet, ubuntu uses ALSA by default.
[05:52] <vbgunz> anyone here use seahorse? Isn't it supposed to integrate with Nautilus? I am trying to sign plenty of files and it looks like I have no choice but to command line them all... Any alternatives?
[05:52] <Pickle_Weasel> iptables -F will keep it off for good?
[05:52] <none_> your problem is that the sound device is not being created
[05:52] <silasj> hello all
[05:52] <none_> Pickle_Weasel, there are no iptables entries to begin with
[05:52] <csthepoet> none_, hmm so that pretty much means no eh?
[05:52] <none_> yeah
[05:52] <none_> you need to know what module to use
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: only if you remove firestarter - it has a start up script that needs to be purged
[05:53] <csthepoet> none_, yep it's not my day haha
[05:53] <none_> or if there even is one
[05:53] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: cat /etc/init.d/firestarter
[05:53] <silasj> hey guys, gnome system monitor never puts color on swap session... maybe swap is not working well, some tip to get more information?
[05:53] <none_> silasj, how much ram do you have?
[05:53] <csthepoet> none_, you know about the new version of ubuntu coming out?
[05:53] <silasj> none_, 512
[05:53] <RexKwonDo> I am trying to get Epiphany to launch XMMS whenever I select a link for a m3u playlist.  Epiphany just keeps launching mPlayer.  Any suggestions?
[05:54] <none_> silasj, that is enough that swap won't often be written
[05:54] <csthepoet> none_, you think that it might work with that one?'
[05:54] <none_> csthepoet, possibly
[05:54] <none_> the kernel is only 2 releases away from the one in hoary
[05:54] <csthepoet> none_, ok i'll wait til then to completely leave ubuntu then
[05:54] <silasj> none_, so is swap off for default?
[05:54] <none_> support between the two releases is kind of unlikely, but it's worth a try
[05:54] <none_> silasj, no
[05:54] <csthepoet> none_, yea i just really like ubuntu
[05:54] <none_> it will be used if you have no more physical ram
[05:55] <none_> ubuntu is a nice distro
[05:55] <csthepoet> none_, well thanks alot again
[05:55] <none_> probably the best for most people
[05:55] <none_> np
[05:55] <none_> good luck
[05:55] <silasj> every time ram is full, the computer stops... it seems not using swap...
[05:55] <csthepoet> none_, i'm heading out goodnight or good day wherever you are haha
[05:55] <vbgunz> anyone know how to integrate seahorse into Nautilus?
[05:55] <none_> same to you
[05:55] <csthepoet> Florida here btw
[05:55] <csthepoet> bye
[05:55] <Earthen> anyone know why i can't play video after installing ati drivers
[05:55] <none_> bye
[05:56] <none_> silasj, type "free" in a terminal
[05:56] <trigger_ph> anyone? i tried to make a launcher for a bash script but it doesn't run as expected..i get no visible output
[05:56] <none_> look at the swap size
[05:56] <esac> has anybody installed zimbra ?
[05:56] <silasj> none_, swap 0 0 0
[05:56] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: you probably need the launcher to specify "run in terminal"
[05:56] <none_> trigger_ph, paste the script on the site in the topic and give us the url
[05:57] <pluffsy> btw. under kde what shall I select to get a working keyboard? there is nothing called Macintosh like there are under gnome. Now I have microsoft something selected, most keys work but not the pipe character which I kinda need to write code :p
[05:57] <none_> silasj, then you don't have a swap partition
[05:57] <none_> which is bad
[05:57] <none_> do you have any unallocated space on your drive?
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack): / trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox / dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> need help.
[05:57] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: or make the command for instance " gnome-terminal -e <yourdcript> "
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have no firefox!
[05:58] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: s/dcript/script
[05:58] <s3rp3nt> last question and ill leave everyone alone... I have a server that is being put on a 10Mbs Fiber connection on monday... Who do i need to contact to offer a mirror?
[05:58] <none_> BROKEN_LADDER, use apt-get to install  firefox
[05:58] <silasj> none_, strange... I'm sure I did one in the install... how can I make a new one?
[05:58] <none_> silasj, you need some unallocated space
[05:58] <none_> then mkswap /dev/hdXX swapon
[05:58] <none_> then mkswap /dev/hdXX; swapon
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> none_ yeah, i did.
[05:59] <silasj> none_, cool thx.
[05:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> none_  i had firefox, but i did an apt-get update/upgrade, and now i don't.
[05:59] <none_> you need to allocate the space first with fdisk
[05:59] <Earthen> BROKEN_LADDER, I had that problem solved it by going and manuly deleting them file and them reinstall firfox again
[05:59] <none_> BROKEN_LADDER, apt-get --purge remove mozilla-firefox
[05:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have it but it doesn't start.
[05:59] <none_> then install it again
[06:00] <silasj> none_, swapon asks for arguments.
[06:00] <none_> silasj, add the partition to /etc/fstab
[06:00] <Earthen> BROKEN_LADDER, If it's like mine then you can probably start if from a console as root
[06:00] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, what does the last one do? s/dcript/script ?
[06:00] <silasj> none_, uhm right.
[06:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> hmm..this is doing something..
[06:00] <thoreauputic> silasj: sudo swapon -a will do it if it's in /etc/fstab
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh..it works again.
[06:01] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: oh sorry I was correcting my typo :)
[06:01] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, ah..ok
[06:01] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: gnome-terminal -e <name of scipt >
[06:01] <thoreauputic> ha another one...
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm back in action baby! yeahhhh
[06:01] <none_> silasj, cfdisk
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> none_ thx
[06:01] <none_> :D
[06:02] <Earthen> none_, I didn't know about that purge command, could of use that last week :)
[06:02] <silasj> none_, I have one swap partition.
[06:02] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, i'm assuming if gnome-terminal is used as an argument for the command, the "run in terminal" check box must be unchecked..
[06:02] <none_> what is it's entry under /dev ?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: you can make any command run in a terminal by saying " xterm -e command" or whatever
[06:03] <none_> Earthen, it's very useful
[06:03] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: probably - haven't tried it
[06:03] <none_> having a bunch of config files laying around is annoying
[06:03] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: I ususally jsut say " aterm -e <mycommand> "
[06:03] <Earthen> none_, I will have to try and keep that in mind
[06:03] <thoreauputic> works for any terminal
[06:03] <none_> silasj, /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0
[06:04] <none_> that is what you want in /etc/fstab
[06:04] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, the script actually calls /usr/local/java/bin/java foo.jar
[06:04] <none_> change hda5 to whatever partition you made as swap
[06:04] <Earthen> none_, half the problem in linux I find is not knowing the commands, live and learn!
[06:04] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic: and it works fine if i run that from the terminal. i just need a launcher on the desktop to do the same..
[06:04] <silasj> none_, right.
[06:04] <none_> it takes a few years to get comfortable with all the different tools, that is for sure
[06:05] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: should work then, as discussed - try it and see
[06:05] <dallas_> can someone give me a hand installing ubuntu on my laptop?
[06:05] <silasj> none_, swap on now! Thx!!!
[06:05] <none_> radical
[06:05] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: would it not be ... java -jar foo.jar ? (I'm not a java person)
[06:06] <dallas_> anyone?
[06:06] <none_> what's the problem?
[06:06] <Travis|H> does Colony 5 use glitz to accelerate cairo?
[06:07] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, the docs tell me to just do a java foo.jar. i'm not a java person too. hehe. anyway, it still doesn't launch the app. it does open a terminal though and closes it immediately thereafter
[06:07] <esac> what do the people on deviantart use to make cool looking wallpapers ? surely it can't just be gimp or photoshop (although some of them are so bad im sure they just use mspaint)
[06:07] <none_> that's what they use
[06:07] <none_> photoshop mostly
[06:07] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: would it not be easier to just make a symlink to that path or add it to your path ?
[06:07] <fmasi> Hi I use an Hoary for 32bits but i have a amd64 I like to know if when i compile my kernel i nead to do it as 64bits or as 32 since all softwers are 32.
[06:08] <none_> fmasi, install the amd64 kernel
[06:08] <dallas_> anyone? ubuntu? laptop? no worky....
[06:08] <none_> actually..
[06:08] <none_> fmasi, get the ubuntu amd64 port
[06:08] <MadpilotPPC> trigger_ph, "java -jar <foo>.jar"
[06:09] <thoreauputic> MadpilotPPC: that's what I thought too
[06:09] <none_> fmasi, you don't want to compile a 64bit kernel with a 32bit userland
[06:09] <Jacko115> does anyone know how to start a program in a specific desktop
[06:09] <fmasi> none_ what is the amd64 port (i not a native english)
[06:09] <none_> really, amd64 support is mostly pointless unless you need >4 gigs of ram
[06:09] <MadpilotPPC> thoreauputic, although there is no such thing as Java for LInux-PPC, so I can't actually double-check that on this machine... :(
[06:09] <fmasi> none_ is every thing is in 3 i can still compile as 64
[06:09] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, oh..so an absolute path to the script in the command text box won't work? anyway, i'll try the symlink and see if it does..
[06:10] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: an absolute path should work, yes
[06:10] <Earthen> I need help with totem and mplayer
[06:10] <none_> fmasi, there are a few version of ubuntu: x86, amd64, PPC and maybe another
[06:10] <none_> you need the amd64 port
[06:10] <Jacko115> what problems are you hacing Earthen?
[06:11] <none_> however, it is unnecessary unless you are doing floating point math or encoding of some sort
[06:11] <Earthen> Jacko115, I installed the ATI driver and it killed my video playes, 3d run fine though
[06:11] <fmasi> none_ what i pepole told me is that the thing whith ubuntu 64 is that i dont have as menny softwers thats why i usa a 32
[06:11] <Earthen> Jacko115, they just don't start anymore
[06:11] <fmasi> none_ so i should usa the 32bits kernel ?
[06:11] <F-GT> anyone decent with grub that can give me a hand ?
[06:11] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: you didn't leave out the -e before your command. I hope?
[06:12] <dallas_> anyone?? ubuntu installation problems
[06:12] <none_> fmasi, yes, especially if you want to play media encoded in a proprietary format
[06:12] <none_> and if you want games
[06:12] <F-GT> have 2 drives .. ubuntu + windows .. installed windows first then ubuntu on a separate drive each
[06:12] <none_> 3d games
[06:12] <F-GT> if i disable the windows drive .. grub fails to load
[06:12] <MadpilotPPC> dallas_, more details in your question would probably get you more help...
[06:12] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: oh - did you give the right pathe to your foo.jar?
[06:12] <fmasi> none_ so i realy should usa a 32 bits kernel whith a 32 bits softwer
[06:12] <F-GT> obviously it's referencing to the windows drive which I want to change
[06:13] <dallas_> I am not getting any display on my screen after the inital splash when I start the install
[06:13] <F-GT> each time i redo grub it does the same thing .. doesnt change a thing
[06:13] <none_> F-GT, man grub
[06:13] <Earthen> Jacko115: do you have some idea's maybe?
[06:13] <none_> fmasi, yes
[06:13] <b3nw> has anyone ever been able to play a .mvk file?
[06:13] <F-GT> already read grub documentation
[06:13] <fmasi> none_ ok thx
[06:13] <none_> man grub-install
[06:13] <geneo93> mvk will work in mplayer
[06:14] <vbgunz> how do I remove context menu items? I have a bunch of menu items from "right-clicking and opening with"... how do clear this?
[06:14] <none_> you need the matroska codecs b3nw
[06:14] <b3nw> i installed
[06:14] <b3nw> still don't work
[06:14] <none_> what about mplayer?
[06:15] <b3nw> with gstreamer i get nothing
[06:15] <b3nw> with xine i get sound
[06:15] <b3nw> with mplayer I get video
[06:15] <b3nw> its a fun game ^_^
[06:15] <grigora> hi, I just deleted a partition which I thought about installing Windows 2000 on and somehow that screwed up my grub. this drive has a Windoze XP on it and I used to be able to dual-boot from grub, now I am not sure whether I should install grub on MBR or will that screw up WindowsXP boot? thanks for any help
[06:15] <none_> mplayer -vo esd filename
[06:15] <b3nw> vlc is also useless ;)
[06:15] <none_> try that
[06:15] <none_> er
[06:15] <b3nw> sec
[06:15] <none_> mplayer -ao esd filename
[06:15] <none_> that
[06:15] <vbgunz> please, anyone know why seahorse is not integrated with Nautilus? this is really sucking harcore, please help!
[06:15] <b3nw> sadly i had to boot back into windows to watch
[06:15] <b3nw> lemme go back
[06:15] <none_> ok
[06:17] <grigora> oh yes, and after I deleted the Win2000 partition which was /dev/hda5, my Linux root partition which used to be /dev/hda6 took its place becoming /dev/hda5 and I adjusted my /etc/fstab and menu.lst files accordingly, still no luck
[06:17] <none_> grigora, grub will look for windows
[06:17] <grigora> none_: what do you mean?
[06:17] <none_> install it MBR; if it doesn't show up automatically then you can edit grub.conf
[06:18] <vbgunz> I removed those right click menu options... Someone please tell me how to integrate Seahorse with Nautilus?
[06:18] <thoreauputic> none_: /boot/grub/menu.lst in ubuntu
[06:18] <grigora> none_: but will installing GRUB on MBR in any way screw up the Windoze XP boot?
[06:18] <dallas_> Anyone? I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[06:18] <cav> Where should I go to find a guide about installing programs, specifically MPlayer?
[06:18] <none_> menu.lst is created from grub.conf
[06:18] <DaSkreech> is there still an Ubuntu calendar?
[06:19] <thoreauputic> none_: the file to edit is the one I mentioned
[06:19] <agent32> how do u install things in the OS
[06:19] <none_> ok then
[06:19] <none_> grigora, refer to thoreauputic
[06:19] <none_> GregAsche, no
[06:19] <none_> er
[06:19] <none_> grigora, it won't screw it up
[06:19] <b3nw> none_ - sound but definantly not the right sound, just a high piched noise
[06:20] <bobulor> greetings and salutations
[06:20] <none_> weird
[06:20] <none_> well..
[06:20] <none_> kilall -15 esd
[06:20] <thoreauputic> none_: if you do "locate grub.conf " you'll see that file doesn't exist in Debian/Ubuntu (it's a Red Hat ism)
[06:20] <MadpilotPPC> DaSkreech, not current, but the old wallpapers are still in the repos
[06:20] <none_> then run mplayer again
[06:20] <DaSkreech> MadpilotPPC: There hasn't been a new pic since april?
[06:20] <grigora> thoreauputic: thanks, I know the file to edit, but I am not sure what's wrong with it
[06:20] <none_> hmm, sure isn't.. i'm used to gentoo, i guess
[06:20] <b3nw> none_ now no sound at all
[06:21] <dallas_> Anyone? I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[06:21] <bobulor> does anyone here know a thing or two about Cedega?
[06:21] <none_> don't do -ao esd
[06:21] <thoreauputic> grigora: right - I was just telling none_ about it :)
[06:21] <b3nw> same sound
[06:21] <grigora> thoreauputic: the partition numbering was shifter by one (hda6 became hda5) and I edited menu.lst accordingly, but it stopped loading
[06:21] <delp> is there any program on linux you can watch wmv on?
[06:21] <none_> seems like you don't have the write codecs..
[06:21] <MadpilotPPC> DaSkreech, I don't think so. I did hear something about it possibly restarting, though...
[06:21] <none_> so it's just garbage
[06:22] <none_> don't know though
[06:22] <vbgunz> anybody? any idea? how to integrate Seahorse with Nautilus? Seahorse has the whackest documentation ever...*but* it seems pretty good overall... Anyone any ideas? How to integrate Seahorse with Nautilus?
[06:22] <b3nw> hmm ;\
[06:22] <thoreauputic> grigora: yes, so I understood you to mean
[06:22] <MadpilotPPC> delp, yes.
[06:22] <delp> what is it?
[06:22] <DaSkreech> MadpilotPPC: Ok thats fine then I jsut thought something was wrong with my setup
[06:22] <MadpilotPPC> !tell delp about restricted
[06:22] <none_> come to think of it, i had some problems playing matroska  files awhile back
[06:22] <none_> i don't think i ever got them to work
[06:22] <tritium> dallas_, what "display issue" are you experiencing, which led you to try vga=771?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> grigora: /dev/hda5 seems an unusual place to successfully have a windows partition though
[06:23] <dallas_> tritium, I get no display, that is the issue :)
[06:23] <grigora> thoreauputic: it almost seems like the partition I deleted (hda5) had grub installed on it ... since deleting it, screwed up everything ... but I can't figure out how GRUB would load at startup ...
[06:23] <trigger_ph_> arghh..i think my conn fizzed
[06:23] <none_> grub isn't installed on a partition
[06:23] <tritium> dallas_, you don't see a single screen of the installer?
[06:23] <grigora> thoreauputic: I created that partition to install Win2000 but later didn't have a need for it, so I deleted it
[06:23] <thoreauputic> grigora: do you know what's in your mbr?
[06:23] <dallas_> tritum, just the splash screen
[06:24] <none_> not by default anyway
[06:24] <grigora> thoreauputic: no I don't ... I am guessing because GRUB would load on startup that that's what is on my MBR, but I am not sure
[06:24] <thoreauputic> grigora: it would be the first 512 bytes of /dev/hda IIRC
[06:25] <thoreauputic> grigora: when you boot do you see any grub messages? errors?
[06:25] <thoreauputic> grigora: if not it probably isn't there on the MBR
[06:26] <none_> in which case you need to use grub-instal
[06:26] <grigora> thoreauputic: yes, I do see grub loading, then error 15
[06:26] <Jacko115> Earthen you could see if vids work in another program like xine...
[06:26] <thoreauputic> grigora: ah, OK it *is* on the MBR then
[06:26] <dallas_> tritum, the last thing I see is loading initrd.gz................ okay, ready, then nothing but I can still hear the cd spinning.
[06:26] <Earthen> Jacko115: xine mm I hav eto install it
[06:26] <F-GT> none_ so why does grub install still look at the windows drive ?
[06:26] <F-GT> do i need to remove the stage1, 2 & 3 ?
[06:26] <grigora> thoreauputic: great!!! so why changing the partition numbering screws up everything?
[06:27] <none_> F-GT, ???
[06:27] <grigora> thoreauputic: how should I go about repairing it?
[06:27] <tritium> dallas_, I'll be back...
[06:27] <F-GT> well if i do a grub install on /dev/hda it still doesnt boot
[06:27] <thoreauputic> grigora: not sure - it's possible to get grub to find your bootable partitions though
[06:27] <F-GT> without having the windows drive connected
[06:27] <F-GT> which is hdb
[06:27] <Earthen> Jacko115: mplayer give me an error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo)device
[06:27] <adjacent> im getting an error with python about not finding the web module. even though its been installed from the repos
[06:27] <none_> grub goes by whatever is in menu.1st and whatever you set as root= when running grub-install
[06:27] <thoreauputic> grigora: I forget the exact way, but you use the grub command line feature
[06:28] <adjacent> should python -m web present output?
[06:28] <F-GT> hmmm will check
[06:28] <thoreauputic> none_: grub can also find  stuff for you from its shell
[06:28] <none_> F-GT, maybe you have two installations of grub
[06:28] <grigora> thoreauputic: do you have any idea what's causing the problem ... I don't need an exact command
[06:28] <F-GT> nope
[06:28] <F-GT> i did a fixmbr on the windows drive .. it boots by itself
[06:28] <thoreauputic> grigora: no, sorry - I might have a link to a grub howto here if you wait a minute
[06:29] <bobulor> !tell Bobulor about drivers
[06:29] <none_> Earthen, mplayer -vo help for available outputs
[06:29] <none_> F-GT, not sure then
[06:29] <F-GT> yet grub seems to bork itself every time i install it back on the ubuntu drive
[06:29] <F-GT> but if i hook the windows drive up .. it boots fine
[06:29] <grigora> thoreauputic: no problem, what about using the Ubuntu CD? does it have repair functionality?
[06:29] <shaoqi> anyone know what can i use to open .rar files?
[06:29] <none_> shaoqi, unrar
[06:29] <noangel_magz> hello
[06:29] <grigora> shaoqi: try unrar
[06:30] <shaoqi> none, grigora. thanks:0
[06:30] <none_> grigora, no repair functionality beyond grub itself
[06:30] <noangel_magz> hello to all
[06:30] <none_> you can use it to boot the installed system
[06:30] <thoreauputic> grigora:  http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3340051  << good article
[06:31] <Earthen> none_: ok
[06:31] <F-GT> actually grub gets to stage 1.5 and hangs without the windows drive connected
[06:31] <F-GT> so it looks at the windows drive for some reason
[06:31] <none_> some of the video outputs require you to be root
[06:31] <thoreauputic> grigora: sge tells you how to use grub to find root / kernel partitions etc
[06:31] <Earthen> none_: how do I enable some of that stuff
[06:32] <thoreauputic> grigora: sorry that should have said "she"
[06:32] <none_> Earthen, mplayer -vo whatever filename
[06:32] <none_> go through them if you are having trouble playing videos
[06:32] <xuniluser> HELP: when i used mkisofs in a newly installed ubuntu, it worked. Then when i updated my ubuntu, mkisofs tells me that there is an input/output error. What should i do?
[06:33] <bobulor> !tell Bobulor about Cedega
[06:33] <shaoqi> i've install unrar, but i can't find it anywhere.
[06:33] <shaoqi> anyone can help? thansk
[06:33] <paulproteus> shaoqi: It's in /usr/bin/unrar
[06:35] <shaoqi> i want to use it to open rar files, i tried using open using other applications, but unrar is not in the list.
[06:35] <none_> shaoqi, do you have the universe repositories?
[06:35] <paulproteus> shaoqi: It's not a GUI program.
[06:35] <paulproteus> It's a command-line program.
[06:35] <none_> apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:35] <none_> unrar x file.rar
[06:35] <shaoqi> oh it's not a GUI program
[06:36] <shaoqi> is there any gui program for opening rar files?
[06:36] <geneo93> fileroller
[06:37] <Pickle_Weasel> where can i set my monitor to turn off after a certain time? >.>
[06:37] <geneo93> but you stillneed unrar
[06:37] <Dexter> Hello, everyone
[06:37] <Dexter> ;)
[06:38] <mmartino> hey dex
[06:38] <adjacent> how do i send ^Q to a terminal window to unlock it in gnome? it prompts to close the app...
[06:40] <Dexter> hi, mmartiono
[06:40] <shaoqi> i tried opening an unrar file using the command line, but the process failed. any reasons why?
[06:40] <bobulor> Every time I quit World of Warcraft, the computer freezes and I have to force my way into command line or do a force restart on the machine to get it working again. Does anyone know how this problem might be solved?
[06:41] <dallas_> mmmmmm world of warcraft
[06:41] <none_> shaoqi, the GPL unrar sucks
[06:41] <none_> install unrar-nonfree
[06:41] <playdohchum> hi
[06:41] <playdohchum> i need help with ubuntu
[06:41] <playdohchum> why is the resolution so big
[06:41] <shaoqi> none_, it's (unrar-nonfree) not available for me.
[06:41] <MadpilotPPC> !+fixres
[06:41] <ubotu> I guess fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:41] <MadpilotPPC> playdohchum, see the link above ^^^
[06:41] <none_> !repos
[06:41] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:42] <none_> shaoqi .. ^^^]
[06:42] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, it's in Multiverse repo
[06:42] <jmg> bug in ppp/pptp in breezy?
[06:42] <playdohchum> uh
[06:42] <none_> ahh
[06:43] <playdohchum> is it because i'm using the live version?
[06:43] <none_> sorry shaoqi
[06:43] <none_> playdohchum, yes
[06:43] <MadpilotPPC> playdohchum, you can fix it in the LiveCD, but you'll have to fix it again every time you reboot, AFAIK
[06:43] <jmg> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x08057568 ***
[06:43] <playdohchum> okay, thanks
[06:43] <playdohchum> #ubuntu
[06:44] <none_> jmg, got gdb?
[06:44] <shaoqi> madpilotppc, what is multiverse repo?
[06:44] <dallas_> Anyone? I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[06:44] <Belutz_zzz> multiverse, non-free, not supported
[06:44] <shaoqi> then how can i get unrar-nonfree from there?
[06:45] <playdohchum> jason
[06:45] <playdohchum> i no understando
[06:45] <none_> apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:45] <procrastinationn> should i install 5.04 and remove 5.10 ???
[06:45] <none_> !repos
[06:45] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:45] <jmg> help
[06:45] <Belutz> just do apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:45] <jmg> none_: heh
[06:45] <MadpilotPPC> !tell shaoqi about repositories
[06:45] <AngryParsley> why are there so many updates for stuff I don't need?
[06:46] <iamsobored00566> WAZZUP
[06:46] <none_> jmg, that's a library error.. improperly compiled program
[06:46] <AngryParsley> like the x server drivers for cirrus logic boards or somethng
[06:46] <playdohchum> WAZZUP
[06:46] <MadpilotPPC> Belutz, if you don't have the right repos installed, apt-get won't work any better than Synaptic...
[06:46] <AngryParsley> in fact the graphics drivers for every chipset but ati
[06:46] <B_166-ER-X> What IS the grey moving live under the nick list in X-chat ??
[06:46] <shaoqi> Package unrar-nonfree is not available
[06:46] <dell500> how do i set gnome to be the default window manager?
[06:46] <none_> B_166-ER-X, away
[06:46] <AngryParsley> B_166-ER-X: lag meter
[06:46] <B_166-ER-X> he
[06:46] <B_166-ER-X> ok, and away lag meter then
[06:46] <none_> oh, under it
[06:46] <playdohchum> i don't understand anything on the website
[06:46] <none_> nope not away
[06:47] <jmg> jmg: its pppd
[06:47] <AngryParsley> I was right
[06:47] <B_166-ER-X> oky
[06:47] <jmg> er none_: this is breezy
[06:47] <B_166-ER-X> nice thx
[06:47] <MadpilotPPC> playdohchum, which website?
[06:47] <none_> can you reproduce the error?
[06:47] <jmg> none_: is this bug fixed in latest?
[06:47] <jmg> none_: every time i run pptp
[06:47] <playdohchum> the one you gave me
[06:47] <none_> do you know how to use gdb?
[06:48] <playdohchum> why is the font red
[06:48] <jmg> none_: gdb wont backtrace
[06:48] <geneo93> none_:  i couldn't get pppd to work either
[06:48] <NsOmNiAc> under ubuntu is there a text based way to recofigure the video card for X ?
[06:48] <MadpilotPPC> playdohchum, xchat turns the font red when a line starts w/ your nick
[06:48] <none_> well, i don't have dial up
[06:48] <none_> i'd report it if you can't find it on the buglist
[06:48] <jmg> none_ kvpnc
[06:48] <playdohchum> ...huh
[06:49] <none_> that's a potential security flaw
[06:49] <iamsobored00566> yoyoyo
[06:49] <Jacko115> does anyone know how to start a program in a specific desktop?
[06:49] <iamsobored00566> i like to play yoyo
[06:49] <dallas_> Anyone? I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[06:49] <playdohchum> bye. thanks?
[06:50] <shaoqi> erm. so how do i get unrar-nonfree?
[06:50] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, it's in the Multiverse repository, you just need to enable it first
[06:50] <none_> i thought breezy came with debugging compiled in the main software
[06:50] <bobulor> none_, how do i install unrar-nonfree?
[06:51] <none_> guess not
[06:51] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:51] <Travis|H> ok, so i am up and running .. one thing i notice .. when i drag a window around over another window .. it sort of leaves this trail or something .. like the old style mouse cursors people used where it would leave a tail that would show where the mouse was ........ what is that about
[06:51] <none_> jmg, kvpnc?
[06:51] <shaoqi> madpilotppc, then how do i enable it? i went to that site already. where does it tells me how to do it?
[06:51] <thoreauputic> !info unrar-nonfree
[06:51] <crimsun> none_, no. It follows Debian Policy in that regard.
[06:51] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[06:51] <blueyed> Which script generates the original /etc/network/interfaces file on install? I want to regenerate it.
[06:52] <brett> After some wrestling, I got Ubuntu/hoary to recognise my audio. Sadly, i can't log in with X, after the audio halts abruptly. Is there a way of removing sound from the login until I can repair that?
[06:52] <crimsun> none_, the only exceptions being the -dbg packages
[06:52] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, do you have Synaptic running?
[06:52] <jmg> none_: checking in bugzilla
[06:52] <k-boon> hmm, I'm really considering switching to Ubuntu, but I'm not sure about the whole license issue with it being based in South Africa in all.   South Africa isn't Communist, for starters...
[06:53] <jmg> k-boon: south africa is communist?
[06:53] <k-boon> that's what my friend said
[06:53] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, follow the screenshots on that page, then
[06:53] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, your friend is on drugs, right?
[06:53] <k-boon> he's a computer science major
[06:53] <MadpilotPPC> so he's a CompSci major on drugs, then
[06:53] <brett> ...Butapparently not a law major :)
[06:54] <none_> that's pretty irrelevant considering the GPL
[06:54] <shaoqi> madpilotppc, i already have community maintained (universe) checked..
[06:54] <k-boon> what?
[06:54] <thoreauputic> k-boon: apart from which ubuntu is actually based in the Isle of Man
[06:54] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, Multiverse is a seperate repo to Universe
[06:54] <blueyed> found it: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/generate-interfaces.pl.gz
[06:54] <thoreauputic> cannical anyway
[06:54] <thoreauputic> *canonical
[06:54] <k-boon> hmm the Isle of Man?
[06:55] <bored2k> What's the shutdown command issued when I click on the panel shutdown icon ?
[06:55] <bobulor> none_, how do i install unrar-nonfree (in newb terms please in case you already said something and I missed it)
[06:55] <k-boon> where's that?
[06:55] <geneo93> shaoqi:  did you do apt-get update
[06:55] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, in the Irish Sea - it's part of the UK...
[06:55] <none_> bobulor, one sec
[06:55] <thoreauputic> k-boon: look up an atlas, man
[06:55] <MadpilotPPC> and no, it's not Communist either
[06:55] <none_> bobulor, are you using hoary?
[06:55] <shaoqi> geneo93, i reloaded in synaptic
[06:55] <k-boon> please don't be mad at me, I am just asking questions as I am curious and I need to know these things
[06:56] <geneo93> do a search in synaptic then shaoqi
[06:56] <thoreauputic> k-boon: no-one's mad at you - amazed would be more like it
[06:56] <shaoqi> geneo93, it's not there.
[06:56] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, the license that Ubuntu is released under means that *anyone* can look at the software code - it's called the GPL. Human-readable summary here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/GPL/2.0/
[06:56] <none_> bobulor, sudo echo " deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:56] <none_> apt-get update
[06:57] <glDaher> hi, this is begining to kill me off slowly... my /etc/resolv.conf file is changed to point to my modem as the only nameserver ... using pppoe ...
[06:57] <glDaher> I checked my dhclient.conf file with no luck
[06:57] <none_> how did you manage to get on here then, glDaher ?
[06:58] <k-boon> MadpilotPPC: I've read about Linus Torvolds, is he the maker of Ubuntu? Is Ubuntu linux like Redhat?
[06:58] <bobulor> none_, I think I'm using Hoary, not sure
[06:58] <latem> that i've heard so many great things about ubuntu linux, but i cannot download it due to the communist south africa =/
[06:58] <latem> i will be deported.
[06:58] <none_> bobulor, well try what i just said
[06:58] <glDaher> none_: I manually edit the file every 10 minutes... been like that for a month :(
[06:58] <yaaar> you're a weird guy, latem
[06:58] <geneo93> shaoqi:  check the /etc/apt/sources.ist and make sure its not commented out
[06:58] <none_> glDaher, you can specify nameservers in dhclient.conf
[06:59] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, it's a bit more complex than that, but the core of Ubuntu is like the core of Redhat, and that core was invented by Torvalds...
[06:59] <glDaher> none_: I even tried chattr =i  ... but needs ext2
[06:59] <shaoqi> geneo93, which line are you referring to?
[06:59] <latem> yaa: the package management doesnt fit into my countries "legal guidelines"
[06:59] <glDaher> none_: yeah, that's what I did, still not working
[06:59] <thoreauputic> k-boon: http://ubuntu.com and read all about it - also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[06:59] <glDaher> wanna have a look at my dhglient.conf ?
[06:59] <bobulor> does anyone know how to copy and paste stuff out of X-chat?
[06:59] <latem> THE CORE OF REDHAT?
[06:59] <none_> bobulor, highlight the text you want.. it's copied
[06:59] <none_> shift+insert to paste
[06:59] <Earthen> none_: hey thanks I got MPlayer working now
[06:59] <k-boon> Oh wait, like Fedora's Core?
[06:59] <crimsun> latem, stop trolling. Now.
[06:59] <latem> the linux kernel was invented by linus
[06:59] <none_> Earthen, cool
[07:00] <latem> not the core of redhat
[07:00] <geneo93> the multiuniverse line
[07:00] <none_> glDaher, ok
[07:00] <thoreauputic> k-boon: the kernel is linux
[07:00] <jmg> how do i check out something from sid apt instead of main? apt-get source ppp/sid ?
[07:00] <Earthen> none_: I guess i need to do the same kinda trick for totem also?
[07:00] <k-boon> hmm
[07:00] <none_> sid is debian jmg
[07:00] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, FedoraCore is another version of Linux
[07:00] <dallas_> Anyone? I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[07:00] <none_> Earthen, yes
[07:00] <k-boon> ok, so it's a core, but not a similar core, Like BSD?
[07:00] <none_> mplayer is the best out there
[07:01] <latem> redhat package management is soooooo buggy though.
[07:01] <none_> also. ~/.mplayer/config
[07:01] <none_> if you add: vo=whatever
[07:01] <none_> to it
[07:01] <latem> i've read that at mircrosft.com
[07:01] <none_> then it will use that output all the time
[07:01] <jmg> none_ yes i need to get the source for it from sid
[07:01] <k-boon> My friend said that BSD had a core, and a better mascott than linux, and he said that it is more "uptime"
[07:01] <latem> i was thinking about microsoft linux
[07:01] <thoreauputic> k-boon: BSD has a different kernel and other differences
[07:01] <k-boon> hmm
[07:01] <Earthen> none_: yeah I changes the mplayer.conf fig file
[07:01] <k-boon> but why doesn't it support USB?
[07:01] <latem> k-boon, you should try the microsoft linux!
[07:01] <none_> ah, ok
[07:01] <thoreauputic> k-boon: your friend should take his medication
[07:01] <F-GT> grrrrr @ grub
[07:01] <MadpilotPPC> latem, you're trolling again...
[07:02] <bobulor> none_, i copied the command into terminal, it said "bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[07:02] <bobulor> "
[07:02] <latem> whats that mean?
[07:02] <latem> trolling?
[07:02] <geneo93> BSD is a long way from desktop use
[07:02] <Earthen> No1Viking: that will not effect totem though
[07:02] <glDaher> none_: here my dhclient.conf http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ppywnd81.html
[07:02] <none_> bobulor, you can't run the file
[07:02] <latem> tell me and i'll stop, i dont know what that means.
[07:02] <thoreauputic> latem: warning time
[07:02] <none_> bobulor, edit it however you want
[07:02] <No1Viking> Earthen: huh?
[07:02] <dallas_> I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[07:02] <none_> with whatever you want, thati s
[07:03] <bobulor> none_, i have no skill in linux, I dont want to go messing with files. Besides, how will editing a file in any manner I please solve the problem?
[07:03] <k-boon> geneo93: yes, but he said that it's core has more uptime, unfortunately it does not have much USB support and does not support video cards
[07:03] <Earthen> No1Viking: sorry typing to fast i was talking to none_
[07:03] <jmg> none_: rebuilding package
[07:03] <jmg> pppd
[07:04] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, uptime just means "how long has it been since this machine has been rebooted" - it's only really an issue for servers
[07:04] <none_> glDaher, put the prepend in alias {}
[07:04] <No1Viking> Earthen: OK! :)
[07:04] <geneo93> uptime dont really mean much if you cant use it
[07:04] <glDaher> none_: ok
[07:04] <k-boon> why doesn't it support video cards like Linux Core then?
[07:04] <none_> also, add a ; to the end of those
[07:04] <none_> try that first
[07:05] <geneo93> because its a server based thing
[07:05] <thoreauputic> k-boon: BSD is kind of off-topic here really
[07:05] <k-boon> hmm, I'm sorry
[07:05] <k-boon> english is not my first language
[07:05] <none_> bobulor, editing the file will let you use the multiverse repository.. that is what you need to install unrar-nonfree
[07:06] <geneo93> free-bsd net-bsd and a few others do but not as good as linux
[07:06] <k-boon> please don't be mad, I am just trying to understand what my friend tell me
[07:06] <bobulor> none_, how do i edit the file and what do I edit?
[07:06] <dallas_> I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[07:06] <none_> !repos
[07:06] <k-boon> I do lots of things with usb, and the support is not good
[07:06] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:06] <geneo93> your friend dont know to much then
[07:06] <none_> i gotta go
[07:06] <none_> later
[07:06] <none_> bobulor, read that
[07:06] <k-boon> he said firewire might cause my motherboard to fry if used in Unix
[07:07] <thoreauputic> k-boon: don't listen to him
[07:07] <k-boon> where can I download the ubuntu (unix) with the good firewire driver?
[07:07] <geneo93> this is not unix
[07:07] <k-boon> what?
[07:07] <k-boon> ah shit
[07:07] <k-boon> `night gents
[07:08] <xuniluser> HELP: when i used mkisofs in a newly installed ubuntu, it worked. Then when i updated my ubuntu, mkisofs tells me that there is an input/output error. What should i do?
[07:08] <k-boon> lol
[07:08] <k-boon> it's all in good fun
[07:08] <none_> linux is unix ;)
[07:08] <k-boon> aw
[07:08] <geneo93> go fun with mandriva or debian
[07:08] <P229> wow
[07:08] <k-boon> alright
[07:09] <k-boon> thought I'd liven it up in here
[07:09] <k-boon> you guys are good people
[07:09] <MadpilotPPC> gah... we get enough odd questions here without people inventing new ones...
[07:09] <jmg> problem with pptp guys
[07:09] <k-boon> keep it up
[07:09] <jmg> Non-zero Async Control Character Maps are not
[07:09] <jmg> supported!
[07:09] <alpha-romeo> hi folks
[07:09] <alpha-romeo> i just started off with ubunto
[07:09] <P229> yeah, don't take advantage of the community!
[07:09] <deFrysk> ubuntu*
[07:10] <alpha-romeo> i want to know how 2 configure DNS setting
[07:10] <alpha-romeo> Network tools doest show any DNS tab
[07:11] <alpha-romeo> I am migrating from RH ....
[07:11] <yaaar> alpha-romeo: vi /etc/resolv.conf
[07:12] <CarlFK> alpha-romeo - there is a place for DNS ips inthe network gui - I saw it a few weeks ago
[07:12] <dallas_> I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[07:13] <MadpilotPPC> dallas_, have you searched the Ubuntu forums?
[07:13] <dallas_> MadpilotPPC, I looked there, it is a realy weird video card in a fairly rare laptop
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> A collectable! :P
[07:14] <MadpilotPPC> dallas_, you may be SOL, then, but ask Google as well...
[07:15] <dallas_> MadpilotPPC, is there anyway I could add the drivers to the install disc?
[07:15] <bobulor> .away
[07:16] <MadpilotPPC> dallas_, no idea, sorry
[07:17] <dallas_> MadpilotPPC, I have a suse 8.2 disto here that installs fine anything newer then that won't install. Same issue every time black screen after the splash
[07:17] <MadpilotPPC> dallas_, you should probably start a thread on the U forums, that's a better place for more in-depth discussions than here...
[07:18] <dallas_> MadpilotPPC, okay, thanks.
[07:18] <mmartino> has anyone installed qemu with kqemu?
[07:18] <Travis|H> when i drag windows around (especially when i drag them over a firefox window) they leave a sort of "trail" (repeated image that looks to be a glitch), .. anyone else have this happen or know why it happens?
[07:18] <thoreauputic> mmartino: not with kqemu - did you see the howto on the wiki?
[07:19] <thoreauputic> !qemu
[07:19] <ubotu> I heard qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Travis|H: sounds like a bad driver for your vid card perhaps
[07:20] <mmartino> thoreauputic Yeah I saw it but it didn't work
[07:20] <mmartino> thoreauputic I keep getting an error when running make
[07:20] <thoreauputic> mmartino: I played with it and got it working, but without the kqemu acceleration
[07:21] <mmartino> thoreauputic thats the problem I am having... kqemu will not install
[07:21] <mmartino> thoreauputic it can't find the module
[07:21] <thoreauputic> mmartino: hmm - can't help, sorry - I just used the standard packages
[07:22] <mmartino> ok thanks
[07:22] <Travis|H> ah here we go i managed to actually capture it in a screenshot ... http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/776/screenshot2wx.jpg <-- notice the glitching graphics of the window i am dragging.
[07:22] <thoreauputic> mmartino: did you install kernel source and / or headers?
[07:23] <thoreauputic> mmartino: I seem to vaguely remember the web site has a howto as well
[07:23] <mmartino> thoreauputic Yeah... I have checked several times
[07:24] <Travis|H> any ideas what might cause that kind of draw corruption?
[07:24] <mmartino> thoreauputic This is the Error I get......Warning: could not find /home/mmartino/qemu-0.7.2/kqemu/.kqemu-mod.o.cmd for /home/mmartino/qemu-0.7.2/kqemu/kqemu-mod.o
[07:24] <Tiggs> hello
[07:24] <Travis|H> when i stop dragging the window around it looks perfectly normal, and it doesn't really look nearly that bad when it does glitch the screenshot just caught it in a bad moment it seems :)
[07:25] <redbench> hello
[07:25] <Travis|H> reminds me of the old effect people would use on their mouse cursor that left a trail on it
[07:25] <Travis|H> =/
[07:25] <mmartino> I checked and the file is there... Permissions are right... I just don't get it
[07:25] <Tiggs> can ubuntu play dvds?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> Travis|H: woah - that's bizarre...
[07:25] <Travis|H> thoreauputic: agreed :)
[07:26] <geneo93> hehe typhoon longwang ,what a name
[07:26] <MadpilotPPC> Travis|H, I've seen black lines when maximizing/minimizing windows - at least on this old G4 - but nothing quite as funky as what you're getting...
[07:26] <hjack> I have a question..............I'd rather ask in a pm
[07:27] <hjack> for security reasons
[07:27] <thoreauputic> hjack: why?
[07:27] <thoreauputic> hmm
[07:27] <Travis|H> yea i also get the black lines when min/max but that looks like its by design
[07:27] <hjack> notice thoreauputic?
[07:27] <procrastinationn> none you here?
[07:28] <thoreauputic> hjack: how can anyone know if they can answer you when you won't say what it's about?
[07:29] <Travis|H> i'm going to try turning on "RenderAccel" "true" in my xorg.conf file and see if that helps at all
[07:29] <hjack> Did you get that?
[07:29] <Travis|H> be back after the reboot
[07:29] <glDaher> none_: I'm the guy with dhclient.conf problem... what you gave me didn't fix the problem... but playing with the config, I realized that I have simi-colon missing on the prepend lines...
[07:29] <crimsun> Travis|H, that's actually more likely to cause graphic artifacts
[07:29] <Tiggs> what do i need to add to get dvd playback?
[07:29] <glDaher> none_: really thanks for you trying to help!
[07:29] <none_> glDaher, i said that ;)
[07:29] <P229> hjack: what's the difference if you ask in the channel or if you /msg some random person?
[07:30] <P229> Tiggs: install xine and libdvdcss
[07:30] <Travis|H> hmm really
[07:30] <Travis|H> crimsun .. what would you suggest then?
[07:30] <glDaher> none_: yeah, reading the logs, you did, but GAIM crashed for me just a second later
[07:30] <glDaher> none_: so thanks you BIG TIME!
[07:30] <crimsun> Travis|H, disabling each XAA option successively
[07:30] <none_> ah, well at least it is working now
[07:30] <none_> :)
[07:30] <hjack> That way I am asking a single person instead of broadcasting it to group of people.  There are ppl who seem genuinely interested and helping and I feel a little more comfortable asking them
[07:31] <Travis|H> XAA option ...
[07:31] <Travis|H> where would i disable those at?
[07:31] <crimsun> Travis|H, driver section
[07:31] <hjack> p229
[07:31] <hjack> would you help?
[07:31] <P229> hjack: I'm genuinely interested in helping, but I (and many others) find /msg's annoying as heck
[07:31] <_pir> helo. I'm using auto-apt while compiling, it ask me if I want to d/l "libgtk-perl" I press Y, and libgtk-perl is downloaded, but then I get the same question, over and over...
[07:31] <hjack> how about notice then?
[07:31] <procrastinationn> help E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[07:31] <P229> hjack: channel
[07:32] <hjack> *sigh*
[07:32] <hjack> no
[07:32] <Tiggs> dvdcss isnt in the synaptic
[07:32] <Travis|H> hmm I don't even have a Section "Driver"
[07:32] <hjack> But thank you
[07:32] <crimsun> hjack, sanitise the sensitive information and ask the broad question
[07:32] <hjack> I can't
[07:32] <hjack> It is not possible
[07:32] <crimsun> ...not...possible?
[07:33] <hjack> exactly
[07:33] <crimsun> even'n' mike
[07:33] <Travis|H> well i'm gonna try rebooting anywho .. we'll see
[07:33] <tritium> hi crimsun
[07:34] <P229> hjack: ok
[07:34] <crimsun> hjack, any security-critical situation can be abstracted into a broader description with the sensitive information sanitised.
[07:34] <thoreauputic> hjack: if it's as sensitive as that, thenIRC seems an odd place to ask about it
[07:34] <FlyingSquirrel32> Ok folks I'm having trouble installing ubuntu on a SATA drive... any suggestions? Looks like I'm not the only one.
[07:34] <P229> hjack: google works, I guess :)
[07:34] <grigora> thoreauputic: root (hd0,4); setup (hd0) - did the trick
[07:34] <crimsun> hjack, but like thoreauputic stated, if it's that critical, drive to the DC and ask your admin.
[07:34] <MadpilotPPC> FlyingSquirrel32, it worked perfectly on my home machine...
[07:34] <grigora> thoreauputic: thanks again
[07:34] <thoreauputic> grigora: aha! :)
[07:34] <hjack> Fine, I don't know my root password and wasn't asked for one during install and was wondering (as I sit here and broadcast this) if there is a default password?
[07:35] <MadpilotPPC> !root
[07:35] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:35] <grigora> does anyone know the version of Postgresql available for Ubuntu?
[07:35] <thoreauputic> !root
[07:35] <MadpilotPPC> hjack, see ubotu's post above, please
[07:35] <FlyingSquirrel32> I tried using a breezy disk, but as soon as it detects the hardware the CDROM stops working... Already switched that...
[07:35] <hjack> okay
[07:35] <hjack> Thank you
[07:35] <Tiggs> root accoutn is disabled by default
[07:35] <hjack> You understand why I would be reluctant to broadcast that though?
[07:36] <Tiggs> you need to sudo passwd root *supersecretpassword* to enable it
[07:36] <helpme> hey anyone knows about freerock gnome? is it a gnome theme? or a diff gnome?
[07:36] <P229> hjack: no
[07:36] <geneo93> duh
[07:36] <FlyingSquirrel32> When I try with the Hoary disk, it progresses, but the partioning is SUPER slow 1% an hour for a 120GB disk.
[07:36] <MadpilotPPC> hjack, it's one of the more common questions here, actually...
[07:36] <ugo> does anyone know the package names of the system manpages?
[07:36] <ugo> i cannot seem to do a man pthreads
[07:36] <helpme> hey anyone knows about freerock gnome? is it a gnome theme? or a diff gnome?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> hjack: really it means you didn't read the install dialogues carefully
[07:36] <hjack> If there was a defualt password someone could have easily connected and had access to this box and changed it or whatever....................disabled by default huh?
[07:37] <hjack> Of course not
[07:37] <FlyingSquirrel32> I tried setting the BIOS to treat the SATA drive as RAID, but that doesn't seem to have helped either
[07:37] <geneo93> hjack:  if you want a root passwd just do sudo passwd root
[07:37] <P229> hjack: well, iirc, ubuntu does not have sshd enabled by default, so no, they couldn't
[07:38] <_pir> any one knows how should I use the auto-apt? to ./configure?
[07:38] <ugo> help help help!!!!!!!!
[07:38] <ugo> when i do man ptheads i get nothing
[07:38] <ugo> !!!!!!! help help help pleh pleh pleh !!!!!!!
[07:38] <ubotu> ugo: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:38] <MadpilotPPC> FlyingSquirrel32, I think I've got my home box BIOS set to boot from SCSI or something odd..
[07:39] <_pir> any one knows how should I use the auto-apt? to ./configure?
[07:39] <MadpilotPPC> FlyingSquirrel32, that's with the SATA drive as the only HDD in the system
[07:39] <thoreauputic> ugo: if you want to ask a quaetion don't spam the channel please
[07:39] <hjack> Thank you for your help
[07:39] <froilan> hello room
[07:40] <FlyingSquirrel32> MadpilotPPC: Yeah, when the Hoary disk was partioning it called it a SCSI disk. and I also have a single drive.
[07:40] <P229> what a night in here
[07:40] <_pir> any one knows how should I use the auto-apt? to ./configure?
[07:40] <MadpilotPPC> FlyingSquirrel32, that's some oddball legacy thing, but it does seem to work w/ SATA drives
[07:41] <geneo93> man apt
[07:41] <F-GT> grub is bs .. formatting and starting again
[07:41] <grigora> does anyone know how to look up what version of a specific software is supported by Ubuntu? thanks
[07:42] <tritium> grigora, apt-cache policy <packagename> is one way
[07:42] <tritium> There are others
[07:42] <FlyingSquirrel32> MadpilotPPC: That's not too helpful :/
[07:42] <FlyingSquirrel32> MadpilotPPC: not that it's your fault of course
[07:42] <thoreauputic> grigora: apt-cache search <program> ; apt-cache policy <programname>
[07:43] <grigora> tritium: thoreauputic: thanks
[07:43] <alexandros> can someone help me, I just install xawtv on unbuntu and I am getting the following error. Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct
[07:43] <alexandros> [sis_alloc.c:210] : Failure to allocate back buffer. Is there a way to work around this?
[07:43] <loku> hello... what is the terminal server spec with 5 client?
[07:43] <MadpilotPPC> FlyingSquirrel32, if I were home I could reboot that machine and check my BIOS settings, but I'm not, so... but SCSI worked for me
[07:43] <MadpilotPPC> grigora, you can also check packages.ubuntu.com
[07:44] <_pir> I used  auto-apt (auto-apt run ./configure) while compiling, it ask me if I want to d/l "libgtk-perl" I press Y, and libgtk-perl is downloaded, but then I get the same question, over and over...Y?
[07:45] <crimsun> ugo, sudo aptitude install glibc-doc && man pthread_create
[07:45] <grigora> thoreauputic: not to start a flame war, but I am trying to decide whether to install Debian or Ubuntu on a server machine, I have heard that Ubuntu is more up-to-date then Debian, but it looks like that's true only for Desktop apps, but not something like Postgres. Am I correct? Or am I missing something? thanks
[07:46] <grigora> then -> than
[07:46] <jayren> can anyone help me with wine
[07:46] <ugo> thanks crismun
[07:46] <ugo> perhaps i can suggest those packages get installe by default....
[07:47] <thoreauputic> grigora: no flame war - we are pro-Debian here anyway pretty much
[07:47] <ugo> its the case on most lin*xes
[07:47] <thoreauputic> grigora: I don't personally have an answer though
[07:47] <helpme> can i add whatever repos i want and install some standard debs from them?
[07:47] <tga> hmm suddenly gthumb doesn't display.. well.. thumbnails anymore
[07:47] <helpme> standard & popular apps i mean..like opera etc.
[07:47] <thoreauputic> ugo: sorry about the +q but you looked like you were about to go postal :)
[07:48] <tga> opera is standard?
[07:48] <crimsun> ugo, a desktop distro doesn't need development libs and documentation installed by default.
[07:48] <helpme> what packages will i need to install to easily compile kde apps?
[07:48] <grigora> thoreauputic: I see
[07:48] <crimsun> ugo, however, feel free to raise the issue on -user
[07:48] <graig> hello.
[07:49] <SuperLag> Any PPC users around?
[07:49] <helpme> what is PPC? mac?
[07:49] <graig> ppc is bascially the mac cpu.
[07:49] <SuperLag> yep
[07:49] <graig> power pc.
[07:49] <SuperLag> or Genesi
[07:49] <graig> what channel am i in? omg.
[07:49] <SuperLag> but it's still a PowerPC CPU
[07:50] <crimsun> graig, there are people of all experience levels in this channel. Be respectful.
[07:50] <helpme> lol.....the remark was funny btw
[07:50] <MadpilotPPC> helpme, Opera is easy to install from opera.com/download - they've got a Ubuntu .deb file
[07:50] <graig> how do i figure out what channel i am in? it seriously has been a long time since i have used irc.
[07:51] <thoreauputic> graig: erm - your client should tell you
[07:51] <helpme> just curious....will the standard deb work? (not the ubuntu deb for opera)
[07:51] <MadpilotPPC> SuperLag, I'm using a G4 right now, but it's not my own machine, and I'm not really familiar with them - there are some serious PPC users around here, though
[07:51] <thoreauputic> graig: what client are you using?
[07:51] <graig> xchat.
[07:51] <helpme>  just curious....will the standard deb work? (not the ubuntu deb for opera)
[07:51] <tga> mm this wallpaper goes well with Human Brown: http://www.disconti.nu/peacock/public/local/backgrounds/BkgAugBagara.jpg
[07:52] <MadpilotPPC> helpme, why not choose Opera's Ubuntu deb?
[07:52] <thoreauputic> graig: then it says right there on the channel tab...
[07:52] <helpme> im just curious to know.....definietly will use ubuntu's deb
[07:52] <vbgunz> anyone know how to apply the seahorse nautilus extension? I believe this might be it "http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/seahorse/plugins/nautilus-ext/seahorse-nautilus.c?rev=1.4" any help is greatly apprciated!
[07:52] <graig> i dont think i see a channel tab.
[07:53] <Tiggs> i followed the ubuntu readme and it says to add some backports and i copied them exactly and it gave me errors that those directories didnt exist
[07:53] <thoreauputic> graig: :| then type /topic
[07:53] <Tiggs> im trying to get the libdvdcss now
[07:53] <graig> ok. thanks.
[07:53] <helpme> Tiggs: i had the same prob
[07:53] <SuperLag> MadpilotPPC: I'm just wondering if anyone else has done what I'm considering trying.  I have OS X on an external Firewire drive and it has a free partition on it.  I can also connect a spare Firewire 30GB drive as a slave off the first one.
[07:53] <P229> graig: you're in #ubuntu
[07:53] <levander> Amaranth isn't in here with yall talking about libdvdcss is he?
[07:53] <god-zero> Anybody here code in python? (newb questions)
[07:53] <graig> ok.
[07:53] <thoreauputic> graig: or mouse over the topic in xchat
[07:53] <levander> god-zero: i do
[07:54] <graig> ok. thanks.
[07:54] <MadpilotPPC> helpme, the current version of Opera (8.5) is very slick, and has a lot of improvements over previous releases of 8.x for Ubuntu
[07:54] <SuperLag> MadpilotPPC: I'm wondering if I can install Yaboot on the install partition, and use OpenFirmware to boot it with...
[07:54] <holycow> heh
[07:54] <jayr3n> hello
[07:54] <holycow> leafpad makes a great replacement for gedit
[07:54] <helpme> i followed the ubuntu readme and it says to add some backports and i copied them exactly and it gave me errors that those directories didnt exist
[07:54] <holycow> very very quick startup
[07:54] <MadpilotPPC> SuperLag, no idea, but I do know that this G4 is a triple-boot - the owner of it has OS9, OSX and Ubuntu on it
[07:54] <levander> Anybody know if writing to dvd's is any better in Breezy?
[07:55] <god-zero> levander: I'm just now reading up on it.. it seems program objects can be modified (self modifing code).. does that meen it cannot be compiled into native binary?
[07:55] <levander> god-zero: know, it can be compiled into binary
[07:55] <god-zero> levander: I haven't had any probs writing to dvd-r, +r or +rw
[07:55] <levander> god-zero: but what you're reading about is a big deal, dynamic typing completely changes the way of thinking from more traditional statically typed languages
[07:56] <grigora> what emule client is available for Ubuntu. I just tried installing amule and xmule, but both borked saying they depend on glic6 which is called something else, etc, any ideas? thanks
[07:56] <levander> god-zero: did you have problems under hoary?
[07:56] <god-zero> didn't have a dvd drive then
[07:56] <god-zero> well r/rw antways
[07:56] <levander> god-zero: what type of dvd player?
[07:56] <god-zero> sony 800a
[07:56] <levander> god-zero: I've got a Pioneer DVR-109
[07:56] <earthen_> I just installed a new copy of ubuntu (hoary) and after doing a update my mouse willl not work at startup, i have to unplug and replug to get it to work?
[07:57] <levander> god-zero: at the risk of being sacrilege in a heavily python channel, i'd seriously look into learning ruby instead of python
[07:57] <levander> earthen_: does it work after you re-plug it in?
[07:57] <mwaba> Does anyone know when the final version of the the new ubuntu will come out?
[07:57] <graig> ahhhh i found all the channels :)
[07:57] <earthen_> levander: yes works fine after i replug it
[07:57] <holycow> god-zero, learn / check out both and pick the one that you like
[07:57] <holycow> :)
[07:58] <god-zero> ruby: I may look into it.. what are the bennies?
[07:58] <graig> wow this has just about everything ;)
[07:58] <levander> mwaba: you can probably find that easily in the wiki, but it's usually safe to install a new ubuntu release weeks before it's officially released (if you don't have any uber-sensitive data especially)
[07:58] <holycow> god-zero, none, juts anotehr object oriented scripting language.  perhaps you will like the syntax
[07:58] <earthen_> lev it seems to work during bootup, it lights up when the hotplug and started then dies just before the login screen
[07:58] <levander> god-zero: I basically just think python is starting to show it's age and some of the features are getting dust around the corners
[07:59] <glyn> Anyone know why I can't connect to Nicotine?
[07:59] <mwaba> I see.. so, i can go ahead and install it now?
[07:59] <levander> god-zero: but, really, the advantages aren't in the languages itself
[07:59] <mwaba> I won't have any major problems?
[07:59] <levander> god-zero: ruby is about to support good native multi-threading, and rails for web development.
[07:59] <levander> earthen_: is your mouse hooked up to your computer through any type of ps/2 to usb adapter?
[07:59] <god-zero> I heard of ruby on rails as java done right or some such. Never really knew how to discern because I don't program java either
[08:00] <mercurus> quick question: I want to find out what ACPI events I have on my desktop, without activating the associated actions ... what's the best way of doing this ?
[08:00] <graig> ubuntu breezy comes out the 15th i think
[08:00] <levander> mwaba: you need to ask people who have tried it, ubuntuforums.org would be a good place to look into it if there's no one here
[08:00] <mwaba> But i can install it now and i won't have any major problems?
[08:00] <mwaba> I see.
[08:00] <earthen_> levander: no it is pluged right in the back of the computer, it's USB
[08:00] <vbgunz> anyone know of a good file diff program for Ubuntu?
[08:00] <mwaba> Okie, I'll try that.
[08:00] <graig> mwaba, i had problems about a week ago when i tried to upgrade to breezy.
[08:01] <levander> god-zero: they prolly just call it java done right because java is used for server-side web development.  There's nothing java specific about rails.
[08:01] <graig> its still going to be unstable till the 15th, so you might have problems.
[08:01] <levander> earthen_: I'd try a different mouse then, the mouse isn't being initially correctly on boot
[08:01] <god-zero> is ruby a vm languge/
[08:01] <glyn> can someone help me get Nicotine to work pleas?
[08:01] <tga> god-zero, ruby is an interpreted language
[08:01] <mwaba> So, you can update from one version to another without having to install the whole system again?
[08:01] <earthen_> levander: it worked fine before the update
[08:01] <levander> vbgunz: there's diff on the command line
[08:02] <vbgunz> levander whats the command ?
[08:02] <graig> yes, but it updates everything you have installed.
[08:02] <god-zero> breezy changes by the hour
[08:02] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: what's wrong with "diff" ?
[08:02] <grigora> what's everyone using for an eMule client?
[08:02] <levander> earthen_: well, you can try to find out which kernel module handles the usb mouse and play with it if you want
[08:02] <levander> vbgunz: diff is the command line
[08:02] <vbgunz> I never tried looking for it thoreauputic... Thank you levander!
[08:02] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: man diff ;-)
[08:02] <vbgunz> thanks!
[08:02] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:02] <levander> vbgunz: there's a popular gui one for gnome called ediff or emerge or something like that
[08:02] <graig> there is a command you can run to upgrade, once you change the repository links in a file.
[08:02] <earthen_> levander: playing with the kernel is a little scary to me :)
[08:03] <glyn> is there a channel or a site I could get help with Nicotine or with installing a better p2p program for Ubuntu?
[08:03] <vbgunz> levander: yeah that would be cool too
[08:03] <vbgunz> I'll check it!
[08:03] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: there's also an xdiff program for xfce4 IIRC
[08:03] <mwaba> By the way, how do you update to the new Gnome version? i tried the normal way but it didn't work.
[08:03] <levander> vbgunz: it was on arstechnica for awhile back under there linux.ars article or something like that, that may help you find it
[08:03] <tga> mwaba, you can change your apt sources, update and dist-upgrade
[08:03] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: sorry :( not familiar with xfce4 IIRC...
[08:03] <tga> mwaba, to get from one version to the other
[08:04] <levander> earthen_: well, if you want to learn about it, i think that's where you start.  Otherwise, try a different mouse.
[08:04] <grigora> vbgunz: not sure what the conversation is about, but you can always do diffs in Emacs which allows you to merge to conflicting versions of a file through Emerge
[08:04] <vbgunz> checking synaptic for that ediff and other now
[08:04] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: apt-cache search xxdiff
[08:05] <vbgunz> grigora: thanks!
[08:05] <levander> thoreauputic: xxdiff is the name of that popular gui diff tool?  I just can't remember the name of it
[08:05] <earthen_> levander: really i wouldn't know where to start looking in the kernel, just find it strange that it would stop working like that
[08:05] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: what is the ccdiff?
[08:05] <vbgunz> xxdiff siorry
[08:05] <grigora> vbgunz: sure
[08:05] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: no idea
[08:05] <glyn> can someone help me get Nicotine working?  I've been asking in here for an hour and no one has helped me
[08:05] <thoreauputic> ah
[08:05] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: :P
[08:06] <levander> earthen_: you don't start looking inside the kernel, you start by googling, there's something called a kernel module that probably handles the mouse.  You find the name of that module, and you look for instructions on how to diagnose it, reconfigure it etc.
[08:06] <levander> glyn: sorry, I don't even know what Nicotine is, well other than the drug...
[08:06] <levander> glyn: you've searched ubuntuforums.org?
[08:07] <graig> ill try installing nicotine.
[08:07] <vbgunz> one second fellas, doing an update on the system!
[08:07] <glyn> I'll try that
[08:07] <earthen_> levander:  ok thanks I did some googling on it but i will look some more and see whhat else i can find out
[08:08] <GhostFreeman> Where do I go to get Xvid support
[08:08] <levander> earthen_: i'd give you more information if i had it
[08:08] <mwaba> So, hoe does one update to the newest version of Gnome?
[08:08] <Tiggs> yay i got it working
[08:08] <earthen_> levander: thanks
[08:08] <Tiggs> how else was having problems withj dvd?
[08:08] <Tiggs> who
[08:08] <MadpilotPPC> mwaba, the next release of Ubuntu - Breezy, due Oct 13th - will have the latest version of Gnome in it
[08:09] <vbgunz> anyone here use Seahorse?
[08:10] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: do you know how to apply this page? http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/seahorse/plugins/nautilus-ext/seahorse-nautilus.c?rev=1.4
[08:10] <earthen_> levander: I see in the Xorg.conf file it says my mouse is ps/2 maybe that has something to do with it
[08:10] <levander> earthen_: yeah
[08:10] <levander> earthen_: lemme check mine
[08:10] <vbgunz> I am trying to get the Seahorse Nautilus extension... It's proving to be a bit more difficult than I'd like it to be...
[08:11] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: I've never used seahorse, sorry
[08:11] <earthen_> levander: what type of mouse you have
[08:11] <levander> earthen_: usb
[08:12] <earthen_> levander: mine USB Logitech Opt mouse
[08:12] <levander> earthen: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2686
[08:12] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: is there a general principal in applying a *.c file found on the Internet? Supposedly that link is to a Seahorse Nautilus extension written in I believe C. Anyhow when I click on the link to download all of the code actually appears in my browser as text. I assume, there might be a trick to applying that code. If so what are the general steps if you can share it with me?
[08:12] <levander> earthen_: yours is almost positively usb
[08:12] <ugo> ?
[08:13] <graig> a soulseek client.
[08:13] <levander> earthen_: you might try what's in mine, but make sure to do a backup of what's in yours now
[08:13] <earthen_> levander: your has the same thing that mine has
[08:13] <levander> graig: what's soulseek?
[08:13] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: if it's in C you would need to compile it I guess
[08:13] <graig> ugo, and i think soulseek is somekind of P2p network.
[08:13] <earthen_> levander: :(
[08:13] <vbgunz> yeah, I was afraid of that...
[08:14] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> really
[08:14] <earthen_> levander: Back to google i guess
[08:14] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: thank you, thought I ask...
[08:14] <levander> earthen_: dunno, keep looking, still sounds to me like a kernel module problem if re-connecting the mouse makes it work
[08:14] <levander> earthen_: yep! good luck!
[08:14] <vbgunz> Seahorse-Nautilus Extension.c
[08:14] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> i'm P2P network...i am GOD now!
[08:14] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> bow to me vermin!
[08:14] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: are you sure it hasn't been packaged?
[08:14] <mwaba> One last question, i can install the latest version of ubnutu now and update to the new verison on the 13'th without having to remove the whole old system?
[08:14] <crispynix> N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e: go smoke yourself ;)
[08:15] <thoreauputic> mwaba: you can
[08:15] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> say: crispynix....i like my fries crispy
[08:15] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: I am looking for it but thats all I found... The Seahorse Nautilus extension is not found in Synaptic or any other place... I am going nuts and only found that C file...
[08:15] <levander> is there a nicotine package in breezy?
[08:15] <levander> mwaba: yes
[08:15] <graig> theres, a nicotine package in hoary.
[08:15] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> say: run along and get me some vermin
[08:16] <graig> i just downloaded it a few minutes ago.
[08:16] <mwaba> Okie! thanks for that
[08:16] <levander> graig: but it sounds like people are having problems with it, does it work okay?
[08:16] <thoreauputic> N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e: OK that's enough now
[08:16] <graig> i haven't got it to work, im trying to get it to work right now.
[08:17] <levander> graig: soulseek is better than the gnutella or kazaa networks?  the content is better and easier to find?
[08:17] <god-zero> N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e: I'm god
[08:17] <graig> no idea lavender
[08:17] <levander> graig: so why you installing it?
[08:17] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> say: god-zero....right....
[08:17] <graig> curious :)  how do i send tells?
[08:18] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> say: god-zero where are your godly powers vermin...
[08:18] <thoreauputic> N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e: god-zero  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <iiiears> Heya!  :)    "Newb takes a wild leap of faith into the linux pool and attempts installing Half-Life 2 / Cedega. - nearly drowns.   Film at Eleven....."       -  lol
[08:21] <ColonelKernel> HOORAY! theres a new kernel!!!
[08:22] <iiiears> "Salutes new kernel" - what vers #?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> tritium: no you were right - I had already +q ed him and then removed it before - he had it coming
[08:23] <graig> hmm, i cant get nicotine working on hoary.
[08:23] <graig> oh well.
[08:24] <god-zero> ColonelKernel: You meen 2.6.12-9? Were there troubles with -8?
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> naw im talkin vanilla
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> 2.6.14-rc3
[08:26] <pussfeller> those krazy kernel kats are at it again
[08:26] <god-zero> I'm just happy inotify is working
[08:27] <god-zero> Is there a reason they don't chase the kernel closer?
[08:28] <levander> graig: you tried nicotine yet?
[08:29] <crispynix> Bowel: I approve of your name.
[08:29] <Bowel> crispynix, Ok, thanks!
[08:31] <graig> levander, no i haven't got it working.
[08:31] <Bowel> When booting up 2.6.12-9-k7 I get "FATAL: Module jfs not found" and / doesn't get mounted. 2.6.10-5-k7 works like a charm. Any ideas?
[08:32] <none_-> Bowel, install the modules for that kernel
[08:32] <Bowel> none_-, I'm using ubuntu's pre-compiled kernels (they contain jfs).
[08:34] <none_-> if root is not mounted then the module doesn't exist
[08:34] <none_-> go back to using 2.6.10
[08:35] <Bowel> Hm, so what do you suggest that I should do? I can see that it exists in the filesystem at least (jfs.ko).
[08:35] <Bowel> Yea. Like that solves the problem. :P
[08:36] <n00b> hallo? anyone here?
[08:36] <none_-> that sounds like a bug
[08:37] <n00b> need help... trying to install
[08:37] <Zealot> anyone here?
[08:37] <n00b> I'm not here
[08:37] <Bowel> I'll report it then, been trying boot 2.6.12 for 5 versions now.
[08:37] <Zealot> can someone help me with rythmbox?
[08:37] <Zealot> it says it wont open any files because they are all audio streams
[08:37] <crispynix> Bowel: You could always compile a kernel yourself, deep within the bowels of your abode.
[08:38] <n00b> Trying to install from the CD for the first time, and I'm getting a "Kernel panic - not syncing : Fatal exception in interrupt"
[08:38] <crispynix> sorry, can't resist being punny
[08:38] <Bowel> crispynix, Heh. :)
[08:38] <Bowel> I've heard it before. ;)
[08:38] <ccooke> Woah! 123 packages to update in Breezy since I went to sleep
[08:38] <n00b> I dunno what to do
[08:39] <god-zero> n00b: bad burn. Try burning it again, possably at a slower speed
[08:39] <tritium> Bowel, it's an ubuntu kernel?  Does it have an initrd.img corresponding to that version?
[08:39] <Bowel> tritium, Sure it does. That's the odd thing.
[08:39] <n00b> god-zero: this is straight from the envelope
[08:39] <tritium> indeed
[08:39] <Bowel> tritium, I can't see any big changes comparing the configs between the kernels either. Both has jfs as module.
[08:40] <deFrysk> glyn, make sure u hav a download dir and stuff set up and a unique username/passwd
[08:40] <n00b> I just ordered the free distro and am trying to install it for the first time
[08:40] <Zealot> anyone know why rythmbox says all my mp3s are audio streams and cant be played?
[08:40] <aftertaf> kaffeine does that for me too...
[08:40] <thoreauputic> Zealot: do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?
[08:40] <tritium> Bowel, not sure what that's about
[08:40] <god-zero> n00b: A pressed disc? There should be a "make a boot floppy" option on the disc. Toss it in the drive and look for flppy instrutions
[08:40] <Bowel> ccc_, Isn't it wonderful to have something to waste the bandwith with. :P
[08:40] <aftertaf> yo thoreauputic :)
[08:41] <thoreauputic> hi aftertaf :)
[08:41] <god-zero> n00b: while in your current os
[08:41] <Zealot> thoreauputic, no where do i get that?!
[08:41] <n00b> god-zero: so, does that mean I should load from the live CD to create a boot disk?
[08:42] <Bowel> tritium, Nod. Been trying to ask that question here a few times now and noone else seems to have the same problem by searching the net. I'll try to report it. Thanks anyway!
[08:42] <crispynix> Zealot: apt-get install it
[08:42] <thoreauputic> Zealot: from synaptic - read the URL the bot is about to send you
[08:42] <n00b> my current OS (on this machine) is XP
[08:42] <tritium> Bowel, good luck, and sorry for your troubles
[08:42] <thoreauputic> !tell Zealot about restricted
[08:42] <Bowel> tritium, Heh. My bowel troubles? :)
[08:42] <jmg> whats the "right way" for me to submit a source diff to malone?
[08:42] <jmg> i have modified the source tree from apt-get source and my built package fixes the bug im filing, what next?
[08:42] <tritium> heh, those too, if you have them, but I meant the jfs ones ;)
[08:43] <thoreauputic> !tell Zealot about repos
[08:43] <god-zero> n00b: No... right now.. (don't reboot) insert the cd... browse the file structure for a .txt or htlm explaning how to make & use a boot floppy.
[08:43] <jmg> theres a way for dpkg or dpkg-source or something to make a diff automatically right?
[08:43] <Bowel> jmg, diff -Nru ?
[08:44] <MadpilotPPC> Is there a way to get FF to stop displaying that silly "Additional Plugins Are Required..." bar? I know there's no Flash on this system, FF can stop reminding me...
[08:44] <Bowel> MadpilotPPC, Isn't there a noflashgot plugin or something I believe.
[08:44] <Bowel> MadpilotPPC, Extension I meant, try looking at addons.mozilla.org.
[08:44] <n00b> god-zero: I'm looking it up on the Live CD right now. Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try
[08:45] <Zealot> thoreauputic, thanks so much!
[08:45] <thoreauputic> Zealot: no worries :) enjoy1
[08:45] <MadpilotPPC> Bowel, you mean I've got to get another plugin just to stop FF from being irritating? Blah... off to check, though... thanks
[08:45] <cat> !doc
[08:45] <aftertaf> noflash :) might work....
[08:45] <ubotu> [doc]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read
[08:45] <Bowel> MadpilotPPC, I have no idea. I just recall that I've seen it. ;)
[08:46] <thoreauputic> MadpilotPPC: there's a flashblock extension as well :)
[08:46] <ColonelKernel> I wanted to know if you can use the -j3 option with make-kpkg
[08:46] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: firefox used to have a libnullplugin.so in the plugins folder that caused dialogs to pop up for missing plugins... I don't see it there with my inst though.
[08:46] <ColonelKernel> as in make -j3
[08:46] <thoreauputic> MadpilotPPC: heh - extensions to block plugins - it is kinda funny ;)
[08:46] <earthen_> levander: hey
[08:47] <MadpilotPPC> thoreauputic, it's damned annoying... I still can't figure out why FF impresses ppl so much... :(
[08:48] <andrew__> Hey
[08:48] <andrew__> Can anyone help me?
[08:48] <crimsun> no idea, what're your issues?
[08:48] <andrew__> Um, I'm just having some video troubles
[08:48] <cat> yeah ask away
[08:48] <cat> such as?
[08:48] <andrew__> Like, it seems like nothing is hardware accelerated
[08:48] <andrew__> Like that penguin racing game lags a lot
[08:49] <andrew__> and I know my video card should run it easily
[08:49] <MadpilotPPC> andrew__, do you have 3d drivers installed? (they aren't by default...)
[08:49] <andrew__> Haha, I'm going to guess no
[08:49] <thoreauputic> andrew__: it might help togive some details like what vid card you have
[08:49] <tritium> andrew__, which video chip?
[08:49] <cat> andrew__: yeah when i play that game it lags alot, also
[08:49] <robitaille> MadpilotPPC,  on the other side,  I fail to see why some people really love opera :)
[08:49] <andrew__> nvidia to go
[08:49] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[08:49] <deFrysk> andrew__, good choice :)
[08:49] <andrew__> I don't know exactly the specs
[08:49] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:50] <thoreauputic> andrew__: read the bot's URL
[08:50] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[08:50] <andrew__> Okay
[08:50] <MadpilotPPC> blast - the FlashBlock plugin won't work on this G4 w/ this version of FF... blasted thing...
[08:50] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: open up about:config and toggle 'plugin.default_plugin_disabled' to False.  That should eliminate the missing plugin notifications.
[08:50] <crispynix> er
[08:50] <crispynix> sorry, set it to True
[08:51] <cat> hey is there any pdf on ubuntu so i can read/
[08:51] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul_ :)
[08:51] <cat> everything on !doc
[08:51] <ompaul_> morning
[08:51] <thoreauputic> cat: sure - xpdf or evince on breezy
[08:51] <deFrysk> cat if you use breezy, get evince
[08:51] <earthen_> levander: you still here?
[08:51] <deFrysk> evince rules
[08:51] <cat> any docs, of ubuntu, on PDF
[08:51] <ompaul_> wtf wheres me nick
[08:52] <auk> evince _rules_
[08:52] <auk> firefox _rules_
[08:52] <auk> gnome _rules_
[08:52] <auk> sorry good people
[08:52] <MadpilotPPC> crispynix, that gets rid of the blank Flash-should-be-here boxes, but not the irritating yellow banner, it looks like...
[08:52] <ompaul> here is it
[08:52] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: does /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libnullplugin.so exist?
[08:53] <andrew__> Thanks guys
[08:53] <cat> debian/doc has lots of pdf on there documentation
[08:53] <cat> does ubuntu two? or not
[08:53] <aftertaf> squid wont install, and i cant remove it either, it halts all apt-get processes. how can i really get rid of it?
[08:53] <ompaul> here it is even
[08:53] <andrew__> Umm, sound isn't coming through either
[08:53] <andrew__> lol
[08:53] <andrew__> I mean, I have a startup sound
[08:53] <andrew__> and sound events when I click on menus, etc..
[08:53] <andrew__> But in the games I've played, no sound for some reason
[08:54] <thoreauputic> cat: reading pdf isn't a problem - if you click a pdf it should open a viewer for you
[08:54] <MadpilotPPC> crispynix, I appear not to have a /usr/lib/firefox at all... huh?
[08:54] <none_-> mozilla-firefox
[08:54] <cat> thoreauputic: i know but i want docs on pdf, like debian docs does ubuntu has?
[08:55] <cat> or no?
[08:55] <aftertaf> anyone help with a dpkg problem?
[08:55] <crispynix> none_-: ubuntu's package is called firefox now (well, in breezy); debian's is mozilla-firefox
[08:55] <MadpilotPPC> cat, not really. wiki.ubuntu.com/ instead
[08:55] <thoreauputic> cat: I don't understand, sorry
[08:55] <crispynix> none_-: same path though?
[08:55] <none_-> for me it is
[08:55] <cat> oh ok
[08:55] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: ok, check for /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libnullplugin.so
[08:56] <aftertaf> dkpg halting on a post installation script error. now i cant remove or finish the install :/
[08:56] <none_-> try apt-get -f install
[08:56] <aftertaf> none_-: i did. same pb ....
[08:56] <none_-> i'm surprised they work
[08:56] <ColonelKernel> is there any way to put make options into make-kpkg?
[08:57] <MadpilotPPC> crispynix, OK, found the /mozilla-firefox/plugins directory - and there's nothing there at all
[08:57] <Whistler> hello
[08:57] <crispynix> yep, and better than the ubuntu ones IME (font weirdness with ubuntu's)
[08:57] <Whistler> how do i set my screen to 24bit?
[08:57] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: feh, ok. nevermind.
[08:57] <Whistler> cause i played game using cedega and now the screen colors ar blank
[08:57] <MadpilotPPC> crispynix, thanks, though... /me continues to be unimpressed with the flippin' Fox...
[08:57] <none_-> try opera
[08:58] <aftertaf>  sudo dpkg --force-remove squid    is invalid :/
[08:58] <Whistler> ?
[08:58] <MadpilotPPC> Does anyone know which Opera package I'd use on a PPC-Linux Hoary install?
[08:58] <none_-> opera has ubuntu packages on their site
[08:58] <tritium> they're just links to debian packages
[08:59] <MadpilotPPC> none_-, not for PPC-Linux, they don't... I'm guessing the static deb will work - will any of the Debian ones?
[08:59] <none_-> i don't think PPC is supportd by opera
[08:59] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: you could try Konqueror ;)
[08:59] <MadpilotPPC> none_-, It is, but Ubuntu-PPC isn't, specifically.
[09:00] <none_-> oh..
[09:00] <none_-> konqueror is pretty good
[09:00] <liable> meh, i seem to have fucked my usb key with cfdisk, cant mount the damn thing now..
[09:00] <crispynix> newer versions, anyways. the konq with 3.3.x and below kinda sucked.
[09:00] <ColonelKernel> anyone? is there any way to put make options into make-kpkg?
[09:00] <cat> ColonelKernel: u can with #
[09:01] <ColonelKernel> cat - what is #
[09:01] <cat> # is a comment
[09:01] <arwate> where do I report problems with my breezy installation?