[21:50] <DasEi> g__: so we can try with latest alsa then
[21:51] <mert_74> DasEi:  Zattoo does not support Linux platforms anymore writes here : http://zattoo.com/en/help
[21:51] <rohan> hello
[21:51] <dave> when i boot grub doesn't show up
[21:51] <g__> DasEi: compile and manual build?
[21:51] <dave> what would this be probably?
[21:51] <campee> anyone have any idea why i can browse my samba shares locally but not from a remote system? ubuntu still doesn't come with a firewall, right?
[21:51] <g__> campee: it has iptables iirc
[21:51] <DasEi> mert_74: it does, running in background here
[21:51] <rohan> how do I connect my machine to ubuntu one ?? i'm on 10.04 LTS
[21:52] <guntbert> mdpatrick: go to system/preferences/remote desktop, unselect "you must confirm..."
[21:52] <velko> distant2, what do you mean by "i have to install patch"?
[21:52] <mert_74> DasEi: today it works but it will not work maybe 1 mounth.. but thank you!...
[21:52] <bastidrazor> !ubuntuone | rohan
[21:52] <campee> g__: yeah but it does nothing by default and i just verified that that's the case on my system
[21:52] <guntbert> mdpatrick: but enable some other security measure
[21:52] <DasEi> g__: yes, see : http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/
[21:52] <distant2> velko: like i said, i'm using ubuntu 10.10 LIVE, maybe that's why?
[21:52] <tca_> does anyone know how i can get the grub menu to show up when i boot?
[21:52] <distant2> velko: are you saying that linux comes auto with patch?
[21:52] <tca_> right now it just starts  ubuntu without showing me the menu
[21:53] <mdpatrick> guntbert: OK, I have password setup. What other security measure should I enable? BTW thanks for not being too snarky. Totally overlooked that. Oops. hehe.
[21:53] <rohan> ubottu and bastidrazor thanks
[21:53] <guntbert> tca_: press left <shift> while booting
[21:53] <mdpatrick> guntbert: SSH key? wouldnt know how to do that but if you point me in the right direction to figure it out... hehe/
[21:53] <velko> distant2, i got that you are using livecd. but i don't understand the rest of your statement
[21:53] <tca_> guntbert, is there a setting somewhere so i dont have to do that?
[21:54] <guntbert> mdpatrick: no problem :) no I suggested to at least select "must enter this passwrd..."
[21:54] <noob-tux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/533622/ how can i remove this?
[21:54] <mert_74> DasEi: also i click to "download for linux" . now it writes join to wait list .. ?!
[21:54] <bastidrazor> mdpatrick: if you want to go the ssh key route:: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[21:54] <DasEi> mert_74: there also is miro, but that din't was comfortable to me, though stations might be there for you (germany here)
[21:55] <g__> DasEi: Need to get 450MB of archives
[21:55] <g__> i think not!
[21:55] <distant2> velko: i'm trying to install a sagem USB modem. at some point, needing to patch the installation/driver, it needs to recognize the package/program/whatever "patch" so that it can patch the installation, idk if u understand
[21:55] <DasEi> mert_74: did you subsribe and verified by email
[21:55] <DasEi> ?
[21:55] <g__> DasEi: following monespaceperso
[21:55] <guntbert> tca_: yes, edit (with root permissions) /etc/default/grub and comment out the line starting with GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[21:55] <Sheet> Has anyone here ever had a folder with  bunch of files in it(VIDEO FORMAT) called, " VIDEO_TS " ?
[21:55] <tca_> thx guntbert
[21:55] <g__> Sheet: it's a dvd rip
[21:55] <PeterNL> Sheet: that's from a regular video DVD
[21:55] <noob-tux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/533622/ how can i remove this?
[21:56] <Sheet> oh, well, this is not a copyrighted DVD I must state
[21:56] <DasEi> mert_74: if your account is working, can send you the deb, no problem
[21:56] <tca_> i set disable_os_prober to false and thought that would have done it ::/
[21:56] <mert_74> DasEi: miro is not a onlive tv watcher. with miro i can just wacth moveies, videos, tv shows and other thinks. but not online tv watch :(
[21:56] <Sheet> am wondering though if there is a program on Linux that can burn this to dvd.
[21:56] <PeterNL> Sheet: any decent media player should be able to, play it
[21:56] <Sheet> play it, am looking to burn it
[21:56] <PeterNL> Sheet: just copy the directory to a dvd
[21:56] <mert_74> DasEi: yes i give my email...
[21:56] <phoul> Hey folks, i installed somethin that brought in a new version of nautilus-extensions1, im trying to downgrade it and i cant figure out how, completely removing it tries to remove almost all of gnome
[21:56] <bastidrazor> Sheet: devede can
[21:56] <DasEi> mert_74: but you can also watch zattoo in browser
[21:56] <Sheet> devede won't
[21:56] <phoul> how do i go about downgrading it back to the ubuntu released one
[21:56] <noob-tux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/533622/ how can i remove this?
[21:56] <PeterNL> Sheet: ubuntu can do it out of the box.
[21:57] <DasEi> mert_74: either as own installed app or via browser
[21:57] <Sheet> What's the command, i don't know how to use the terminal. lol
[21:57] <Sheet> If you could
[21:57] <PeterNL> Sheet: you won't need the terminal
[21:57] <Sheet> o?
[21:57] <mert_74> DasEi: ah yes. but i realy need a prgram like tunapie. :( it woruld be very nice.
[21:57] <DasEi> Sheet: burn what to dvd ?
[21:57] <Sheet> the VIDEO_TS folder
[21:57] <DasEi> !winedb | mert_74
[21:58] <PeterNL> But I don't know what the default burning program is in the latest ubuntu versions...
[21:58] <Sheet> it has other files in it too that won't rtun with deevde
[21:58] <Sheet> run
[21:58] <DasEi> !winehq | mert_74
[21:58] <Jordan_U> noob-tux: Those files are only "suspicious", not neccisarily malware. I would use "debsums" to confirm that each of those files comes from a trusted package (and is unaltered).
[21:58] <Sheet> but are part of the dd
[21:58] <phoul> anyone know?
[21:58] <Sheet> I can't use Wine, it doesn't work
[21:58] <mert_74> DasEi: ah don't tell me wine :)
[21:58] <phoul> I basically need to be able to remove this thing without it trying to remove a bunch of other stuff so i can reinstall the version that should be there
[21:58] <Sheet> It's taken more craps on me than any other program
[21:58] <DasEi> mert_74: would be interested in feedback;; why ?
[21:58] <PeterNL> Sheet: you just need to copy the files. You shouldn't have to care about the fact it is a video :)
[21:58] <Sheet> just copy it to dvd?
[21:59] <mert_74> DasEi sorry what do you mean feedback ?
[21:59] <Sheet> like data dvd?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> Sheet: If you made an image using dd, just burn that image.
[21:59] <bastidrazor> Sheet: devede can create an iso out of those files to be burnt.
[21:59] <Sheet> It won't work on devede, some of the files on there devede will not convert to
[21:59] <connermcd> I'm having trouble getting a script to run on startup... I have put it in /etc/init.d and run sudo update-rc.d <script> defaults
[21:59] <PeterNL> Sheet: yes, like a data dvd
[21:59] <Sheet> oh
[21:59] <phoul> is there a way to downgrade applications using apt
[21:59] <Sheet> I hope it works
[22:00] <DasEi> mert_74: good you wrong, tunapie is a linux app, o'course, was on the wrong way
[22:00] <DasEi> got
[22:00] <DasEi> hehe
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Sheet: "dd if=/dev/sr0 of=file.iso" gives you an iso image you can burn with brasero/wodym/ any other burning program.
[22:00] <velko> phoul, use lower level package manager "dpkg --remove package" and reinstall the desired version. dpkg won't go after dependencies
[22:00] <connermcd> I'm having trouble getting a script to run on startup... I have put it in /etc/init.d and run sudo update-rc.d <script> defaults
[22:00] <Sheet> I can't convert it to an ISO is what i'm saying Jordan_U
[22:00] <Sheet> ...
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Sheet: If you made the image with dd then it already *is* an iso.
[22:01] <g__> if i have a partition incorrectly reporting free space (less than it should) should i reformat it?
[22:01] <dupondje-> Somebody is using evolution with LDAP ?
[22:01] <Sheet> I can't, once again make it with Devede
[22:01] <phoul> velko: that doesnt work
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Sheet: How exactly did you use dd?
[22:01] <phoul> it says dependency problems prevent removal lol
[22:01] <Sheet> I didn't.......
[22:01] <Sheet> not with this.
[22:01] <ubuntuser> yoohoo.. i have a 16gb kinston datatraveler dt100 that is new  and i saved some files on it but now linux and windows recognizes it but has no partition table..
[22:02] <mert_74> DasEi: i did not say that tunapie is not a linux program. already i use it ... tunapie is very good program ... i just give it an example. i need a program like tunapie but not for radios ofcorse for tv ...
[22:02] <ChogyDan> phoul: add --force-depends to the command
[22:02] <connermcd> I'm having trouble getting a script to run on startup... I have put it in /etc/init.d and run sudo update-rc.d <script> defaults
[22:02] <ChogyDan> phoul: then sudo apt-get install -f to reinstall it
[22:03] <Jordan_U> Sheet: Ahh, when you said "part of the dd" I thought you were talking about the utility "dd", not just a misspelling of "dvd" :)
[22:03] <ChogyDan> connermcd: how about upstart?
[22:03] <Sheet> oh no
[22:03] <Scunizi> Sheet: is this a ripped DVD you're trying to burn with Devede?  If so you might rip with handbreak instead and then burn with devede.. if it's something other than a DVD rip then use k3b to burn the image
[22:03] <phoul> thanks ChogyDan is there a way to sanity check the system after to make sure i didnt just break everything
[22:03] <Sheet> I'm not sure
[22:03] <Sheet> it's disk one of 4 Scunizi
[22:04] <connermcd> ChogyDan can you give me an example
[22:04] <Scunizi> Sheet: 1 of 4 what? dvd's?
[22:04] <Sheet> Yes
[22:04] <Sheet> It has a folder with multiple files
[22:04] <Sheet> only 3 types
[22:04] <mert_74> DasEi: they send me e-mail. they don't send me any deb package or something... :( ohh we need open-source program ...
[22:04] <GS_> I got a noobish question about software installation when you guys get a minute
[22:04] <Kyuusai-San> hello, anyone know of a mail client that can forward in ubuntu
[22:04] <ChogyDan> phoul: I guess so, the apt-get install -f command is already a sanity check
[22:04] <DasEi> mert_74: will do in short, pm me
[22:04] <Sheet> the videos wil work but not the writing part which is the most importiant of the screen play backround I THINK.
[22:04] <Kyuusai-San> dont say evolution or thunderbird cause they dont work
[22:04] <Kyuusai-San> for forwarding
[22:04] <ChogyDan> connermcd: what do you want the script to start, after startup?
[22:04] <Jordan_U> Sheet: Try just burning a data DVD containing the VIDEO_TS (and any other files/directories).
[22:04] <Scunizi> Sheet: the best ripper I've seen is handbreak.. you can get it at handbreak.fr .
[22:05] <velko> GS_, just ask your question. if anybody can will answer
[22:05] <connermcd> ChogyDan sure
[22:05] <Sheet> Scunizi,
[22:05] <Sheet> Seems like a site with a bunch of ads
[22:06] <g__> adblock+ ;)
[22:06] <Sheet> BUP, IFO, VOB are the file types.
[22:06] <Kyuusai-San> Sheet
[22:06] <Kyuusai-San> http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
[22:06] <Scunizi> Sheet: this one?  http://handbrake.fr/
[22:06] <ubuntuser> i have a 16gb kinston datatraveler dt100 that is new  and i saved some files on it but now linux and windows recognizes it but has no partition table..  i don't care abuot the info on the drive but just wast the drive to function properly
[22:06] <GS_> right-o. so I installed the DNS query tool from the Ubuntu Software Center, and it doesn't put an icon in the applications menu. I tried to put one in manually in the menu editor, but I can't find it in there. I don't know how to make an entry manually, and the website that made the software was of absolutely no help
[22:07] <Sheet> http://handbreak.fr/
[22:07] <Sheet> i was there
[22:07] <dekroning> Adobe AIR application ask for root privileges when updating them, even though they are in my home directory, anyone know a way around request for root password by adobe air installer?
[22:07] <Sheet> thanks
[22:07] <ChogyDan> connermcd: what is the command you want to run?
[22:07] <coz_> Sheet,   also if you instaall ubuntutweak it comes with a handbrake ppa
[22:07] <connermcd> ChogyDan a script.... let's called it script.sh
[22:07] <coz_> Sheet,   or    https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
[22:07] <Sheet> It won't work with Ubuntu version 10.04
[22:07] <Kyuusai-San> hello, anyone know of a mail client that can auto forward in ubuntu
[22:07] <Sheet> ?
[22:07] <Sheet> It won't work with Ubuntu version 10.04?
[22:07] <Scunizi> coz_: cool.. didn't know there was a ppa :)
[22:08] <distant2> the ubuntu UI is very large (icons and text), how is it possible to reduce its size?
[22:08] <ubuntuser> how can i restore my flash drive to function properly
[22:08] <connermcd> Kyuusai-San why not auto forward server side?
[22:08] <coz_> Scunizi,   yeah :)  but I prefer the ubuntutweak one  for easy installation
[22:08] <Jordan_U> noob-tux: First run "dpkg -S /path/to/file" to find out what package the file came from. Then run "debsums packagename" to confirm that all of the files in that package are unaltered.
[22:08] <GS_> I'm using the Gnome session on Ubutnu 10.04 netbook if that helps
[22:08] <ChogyDan> connermcd: place this in a /etc/init/some_file.conf          http://pastebin.com/qgQ7J96V
[22:08] <distant2> (there is no possibility to increase resolution 1300*700 something) so i'm looking for a system setting
[22:09] <opc0de> hello how to know the default arguments of gcc on ubuntu ? please
[22:09] <ikonia> opc0de: what do you mean
[22:09] <Scunizi> distant2: do all you're upgrades first.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... then go to System>Admin>Hardware Drivers and see if there is a driver waiting to be activated for your video card.
[22:09] <Sheet> coz_, all 7 packages from https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa ?
[22:09] <connermcd> ChogyDan ok, and then ?
[22:09] <ubuntuser> does anyone have any idea
[22:09] <Kyuusai-San> connermcd i cant do it server side as even though i have access to the email server its a debian mail server and our support company set it up and if i want to ask thell ask to charge for it cba
[22:09] <Jordan_U> distant2: System > Preferences > Appearance. Fonts tab. Details button. Resoltion (to change the DPI).
[22:09] <coz_> Sheet,  checking hold on
[22:09] <Kyuusai-San> just want it to forward from the client workstation
[22:10] <opc0de> ikonia ubuntu has set arguments of gcc in default how to know it ?
[22:10] <Unresolved> hii
[22:10] <ikonia> opc0de: there are no default arguments, you pass the arguments you need
[22:10] <coz_> Sheet,   here that link s hows  only one package
[22:10] <opc0de> no ikonia
[22:10] <ChogyDan> connermcd: then the script will run at startup
[22:10] <opc0de> for exemple -fstack-protector is set in default
[22:10] <Unresolved> is it normal for firestarter to open 5 firefox
[22:10] <coz_> Sheet,   or you could install ubuntutweak   http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[22:10] <connermcd> ChogyDan I don't need to update-rc.d?
[22:10] <Unresolved> like 5 connections are on it
[22:10] <ikonia> opc0de: thats SSP which is set in a patch
[22:11] <opc0de> yes but it's in default
[22:11] <ikonia> opc0de: yes, because it's a patch, so you need to override it
[22:11] <Unresolved> how much connections in defualt ?
[22:11] <Unresolved> huh
[22:11] <Jordan_U> distant2: Though like Scunizi I would check if System > Adminstration > Hardware Drivers can get you a better resolution first.
[22:11] <opc0de> ... how to know the default argument of gcc set by the patch ?
[22:11] <ChogyDan> connermcd: yeah, I wasn't trying to fix your problem, I was just telling you how I did it
[22:12] <Sheet> installing now coz
[22:12] <ikonia> opc0de: check the spec file
[22:12] <opc0de> where ?
[22:12] <Sheet> now what do I do?
[22:12] <ikonia> opc0de: in the source package spec file
[22:12] <stnick5> Okay, so the other day I managed to fix the problem I had been getting with my Ubuntu and Windows 7 laptop. I was having trouble accessing the Windows 7 shares on the Ubuntu laptop, and I fixed it by uninstalling Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Messenger, which is how many people have fixed the problem according to what I found on Google. Today, it has randomly stopped working. I Thought it might be to do with the Games for Windows Live update that instal
[22:12] <stnick5> led through Windows Update, so I uninstalled it. But it's not made any difference. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
[22:13] <Sheet> Installed it coz_ what do i do now?
[22:13] <stnick5> The only other changes I've made to each laptop is by installing Mozilla Thunderbird and folding@home on both laptops
[22:13] <Sheet> thanks for your help btw
[22:13] <opc0de> can you tell me more sorry i'm from gentoo, where i can see the "spec file" ?
[22:13] <connermcd> ChogyDan what if the script has args? exec /path/script.sh start
[22:13] <connermcd> ChogyDan will that work?
[22:13] <coz_> Sheet,  you installed ubuntutweak?
[22:13] <Sheet> yes
[22:14] <Jordan_U> stnick5: If nobody here answers try #samba.
[22:14] <jhutchins_lt> Is there a way to get the bot to show the current kernels?
[22:14] <ikonia> opc0de: you don't set the spec file, it patches GCC at build time, you need to override the defaults, ubuntu doesn't work like gentoo with a defaults file
[22:14] <coz_> Sheet,  ok go to applications/system tools and open ubuntu tweak
[22:14] <vvanker> can someone help with network shares please?
[22:14] <stnick5> Jordan_U: thanks
[22:14] <Sheet> yup
[22:14] <ChogyDan> connermcd: yeah, here is my original, args and all: http://pastebin.com/NCkVeqKQ
[22:14] <PeterNL> What does this mean? "[timestamp] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s! [apache2:PID]"
[22:14] <Jordan_U> stnick5: You're welcome.
[22:14] <Sheet> now what coz_
[22:14] <coz_> Sheet,   then in the left column click the  "Source Center"
[22:14] <connermcd> ChogyDan I will try that... thanks
[22:15] <karthick87> I am using ubuntu 10.04.I want only security updates...What should i do then?
[22:15] <Sheet> coz_,  done
[22:15] <coz_> Sheet,   it will want to update packages  and then when that is done  click th "Unlock" button
[22:15] <opc0de> yes but i need to know the options of gcc set by the patch for disable it but where i can know what is this *options*
[22:15] <Faustus> anyone get the: "The script 'Default' exited with error code: 127" in pana? (amarok 1.4)
[22:15] <coz_> Sheet,  then scroll down until you see  HandBrake snapshots
[22:15] <coz_> Sheet,   tick the box to it's left
[22:15] <Unresolved> when i click Firefox my firestarter opens like 5 connections .... is THIS normal ???
[22:15] <Sheet> yup
[22:15] <vvanker> yep
[22:16] <coz_> Sheet,  of rather click the handbrake ubuntu packagesrs ppa
[22:16] <osteenbergen> Hi
[22:16] <GS_> never mind guys, I had to trial-and-error it until I figured out the terminal command to launch it. Problem solved!
[22:16] <coz_> Sheet,   then click quit and  open a terminal  or synaptic package manager
[22:16] <coz_> Sheet,   if terminal do   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    when that is finished do   sudo apt-get install handbrake
[22:16] <vvanker> *me needs networking help!*
[22:16] <mun24> anybody using asterisk here
[22:17] <osteenbergen> vvanker whats wrong?
[22:17] <ShawnRisk> hi
[22:17] <Kage[Work]> Does anyone know if it's possible to dput a .deb with no .changes file?
[22:17] <vvanker> i install firestarter an shares dont show - I uninstall shares show in ubuntu but not on local net
[22:17] <Kage[Work]> Or rather, a way to spoof a .changes file from a preexisting .deb?
[22:18] <vvanker> samba is installed and .cfg is ok
[22:18] <labuser> im looking for a program for ubuntu similar to peerguardian for windows. any suggestions?
[22:18] <Scunizi> labuser: for online protection?
[22:18] <mun24> op
[22:18] <vvanker> this happened after I moved the box and plugged it into the router
[22:19] <labuser> scunizi: yes
[22:19] <Sheet> coz_, Package handbrake is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:19] <Sheet> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:19] <Sheet> is only available from another source
[22:19] <Sheet> E: Package handbrake has no installation candidate
[22:19] <vvanker> as opposed to using the parralell cabel
[22:19] <FloodBot4> Sheet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <ShawnRisk> testing
[22:19] <coz_> Sheet,  did you first do  sudo apt-get update?
[22:19] <Sheet> yeh, i think i did something wrongfirst
[22:19] <Sheet> after i left checked the box
[22:19] <jo__> hey everyone, how can I run a script alongside a program by clicking the icon of the program? What command do I have to give in the gnome menu thingy for example thunderbird %u something something
[22:19] <Sheet> on handbrake, i cliked refreshed nd installed some crap
[22:20] <kish_> how can i download a source package, compile it and install it ?
[22:20] <osteenbergen> vvanker and firestarter did work with the previous setup?
[22:20] <Sheet> than i did what you told me
[22:20] <vvanker> iptables --flush - no result
[22:20] <coz_> Sheet, well  the refresh shouldnt have done anything
[22:20] <Scunizi> labuser: dansguardian is one but good for only one computer unless it's setup as the machine everyone else goes through to get to the internet.  OpenDNS.com also offers filtering with the only requirement that you change the DNS server references in your router.. and possibly on each windows machine if you have any.
[22:20] <vvanker> yeah - I just moved from direct paralell cabel to plugging it into router...
[22:20] <coz_> Sheet,   go back into ubuntutweak  into source center and make sure you ticked the  handbrake ubuntu packagess ppa
[22:20] <Dim3n> Hola ?
[22:20] <dekroning> is there away to turn of the security dialog asking in Ubuntu ?
[22:21] <Sheet> oh
[22:21] <osteenbergen> and you changed the rules in firestarter now the IPs have changed?
[22:21] <Sheet> i didn't even check that box
[22:21] <Scunizi> dekroning: ? you mean when it asks for a password?
[22:21] <Sheet> coz_, i didn't even check thatbox
[22:21] <dekroning> Scunizi: yes
[22:21] <Sheet> that box
[22:21] <Unresolved> every time i load a PAGE
[22:21] <Scunizi> dekroning: on boot or all the time?
[22:21] <Unresolved> i see 3 IP in firestarters
[22:21] <dekroning> Scunizi: i know it's a really bad idea
[22:21] <Unresolved> always the same
[22:21] <dekroning> Scunizi: all the time
[22:21] <Unresolved> i think i have spyware
[22:21] <coz_> Sheet,  hold on I am getting same error
[22:21] <vvanker> I uninstalled "gnome-network manager" "network manager" "firestarter"...
[22:22] <vvanker> and re0installed - no joy
[22:22] <Scunizi> dekroning: probably but I've never done it.. it's basically booting into admin mode
[22:22] <dekroning> Scunizi: yes indeed that is something i need, booting ubuntu into admin mode
[22:22] <osteenbergen> so firestarter is running default setup? or didn't you use the purge option while removing?
[22:23] <OneSoulLegion> Would anyone have experience getting Ubuntu server installed on an eeebox?
[22:23] <stnick5> Do I need to register with nickserv before I can talk in #samba?
[22:23] <stnick5> Dunno if anyone's hearing me in there or if I'm talking to myself
[22:23] <coz_> Sheet,  ok instead open synaptic pakcage manager and hit Search and type in  handbrake
[22:23] <vvanker> complete removal + .cfg files > reinstalled
[22:23] <connermcd> ChogyDan that didn't work for me... I must be doing something wrong
[22:23] <tecnico> winXperts: 7
[22:23] <osteenbergen> mkay
[22:23] <coz_> Sheet,  there you want to install handbrake-common and handbrake-gtk
[22:23] <Scunizi> dekroning: if you don't mind not having a gui then just use the rescue kernel on the grub menu.. it's root by default. other than that I'm not the one to guide you.
[22:23] <coz_> Sheet,  if you want the cli also tick that for installation
[22:23] <labuser> Scunizi: thanks that was very helpful.
[22:24] <connermcd> ChogyDan I have a file called /etc/init.d/test.conf with your start on started tty1 and exec /path/file.sh start
[22:24] <ChogyDan> connermcd: hmmm, is the conf file +x, that might be it
[22:24] <connermcd> ChogyDan the test.conf has 755 permissions -rwxr-xr-x
[22:24] <ChogyDan> connermcd: oh, and I think it is /etc/init/
[22:24] <dekroning> Scunizi: I actually need GUI, reason I need this admin mode, is because i'm on a touchscreen system, and I don't want Adobe AIR ask for Administartor password reach time my adobe air application needs an update
[22:24] <Sheet> coz_, I don't see it on the list
[22:24] <Scunizi> labuser: no problem.. I use opendns because I can control the Pr0n, instant messaging, social sites etc..
[22:24] <coz_> Sheet,  are you in synaptic?
[22:24] <PeterNL> What does this mean? "[timestamp] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s! [apache2:PID]"
[22:25] <vvanker> Firestarter doesnt seem to be doing anything - it's not "blocking" connections
[22:25] <connermcd> ChogyDan ok I'll try that... thanks
[22:25] <Sheet> coz_, synaptic ?
[22:25] <jo__> hey, what command do I have to use to start 2 programs when clicking on a gnome icon
[22:25] <dms_> hello )))
[22:25] <coz_> Sheet,  yes system/administration/synaptic pakcage manager
[22:25] <coz_> Sheet, unless you are using KDE
[22:26] <Sheet> i now have that open
[22:26] <coz_> Sheet, did that open?
[22:26] <Sheet> yes
[22:26] <Scunizi> jo__: I like that question.. perhaps <program 1> && <program 2>
[22:26] <coz_> Sheet,  ok hit the Search button and type in   handbrake
[22:26] <mccoy> I'm a bit of a noob, but I just installed gnustep via sudo apt-get install gnustep "gnustep*" "libgnustep*" and I can't seem to start the program
[22:26] <coz_> Sheet,   you can install all three packages that show up
[22:26] <Sheet> highlight all 3 ?
[22:26] <jo__> Scunizi: tried that, failed.
[22:27] <Sheet> now how do i install?
[22:27] <coz_> Sheet,  click the package and mark for installation
[22:27] <Sheet> done
[22:27] <coz_> Sheet, ok now hit the Apply button
[22:27] <vvanker> anyone point me to networking and shares commands?
[22:27] <Scunizi> jo__: perhaps <program 1> & && <program 2> &  .. you could try it from alt+f2
[22:27] <osteenbergen> looking for it, long time ago :)
[22:27] <Scunizi> !samba | wank
[22:28] <Sheet> ok thanks coz_ will let you know when they're done
[22:28] <distant2> Jordan_U: thanks, changing DPI is what i needed. it's great.
[22:28] <coz_> Sheet,  ok
[22:28] <Jordan_U> distant2: You're welcome.
[22:28] <Scunizi> vvanker: see ubottu link above.. your nick looks like it starts with a w and not 2 v's
[22:28] <vvanker> samba is installed and .cfg is set up
[22:29] <Scunizi> vvanker: user mode or share mode?
[22:29] <dekroning> Can root login to Gnome perhaps
[22:29] <dekroning> ?
[22:29] <Jordan_U> jo__: I would create a script which did what you want, and point the launcher to that script.
[22:29] <vvanker> share - for testing
[22:29] <vvanker> was working in user mode
[22:29] <OneSoulLegion> Anyone know how to get Ubuntu Server to install properly from a USB?
[22:30] <jo__> Jordan_U good idea!
[22:30] <osteenbergen> vvanker: check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190542 maybe your solution ;)
[22:30] <Scunizi> vvanker: samba's been a pain for me in the last 2 releases.. always something.. perhaps in #samba they can give better guidance
[22:30] <vvanker> kk
[22:30] <Scunizi> OneSoulLegion: define "Properly"
[22:30] <mccoy> can anyone recommend a objective c ide?
[22:30] <Sheet> coz_, complete
[22:30] <OneSoulLegion> As in, having the installer not complain about a missing cd-rom drive?
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> OneSoulLegion:  i was thinking the server edition couldent be put on a usb flash drive with unetbootin.
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[22:31] <Scunizi> vvanker: sorry
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> OneSoulLegion:  but i do recall one guy doing it in here.. but i dont know what tool he used to make the usb.
[22:31] <DasEi> Dr_Willis: can
[22:31] <distant2> Jordan_U: what about icons size, that doesn't change with the font size. they still big
[22:31] <vvanker> thanks ;)
[22:31] <Jordan_U> OneSoulLegion: Are you using unetbootin or Ubuntu's "Startup Disk Creator"?
[22:31] <OneSoulLegion> Dr_Willis: That seems the be the case, certainly... but the machine I need it on doesn't have a cdrom.
[22:31] <SlackRat> everything since jaunty installed on a flash usb..........
[22:31] <osteenbergen> mccoy, Eclipse with plugins used to work fine
[22:31] <SlackRat> for me anyways
[22:32] <OneSoulLegion> I've tried unetbootin and the usb creator that's in the image.
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> OneSoulLegion:   It may be that its just Unetbootin that cant handle it properly.
[22:32] <distant2> Jordan_U: my native resolution is 1366*768 and ubuntu is set on that. i don't think i can go beyond that resolution.
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> OneSoulLegion:  theres making a grub2 setup on usb that boots that iso that might work. or some other tools at the pendrivelinux website that might work,.
[22:32] <Jordan_U> OneSoulLegion: While not ideal, you can contine with the install despite that error (it will just download all the packages from the internet during install).
[22:33] <OneSoulLegion> Jordan_U: I'd try that, but it also can't find the network adapters...
[22:33] <tarvid> Any reason Quicktime (mov) files render about 5 seconds per frame and mpg files do much better?
[22:33] <OneSoulLegion> Dr_Willis: I'll try to dig around the site a bit more.
[22:33] <DasEi> OneSoulLegion: I'm pretty sure it works, else use alternate (I just did lucid that way) and get the server-kernel later, if needed
[22:34] <mccoy> I've never tried this but I've heard of people using sudo dd if=(location of iso) of=(location of usb mounted)
[22:34] <Sheet> coz_, complete
[22:35] <OneSoulLegion> DasEi: I'll look into doing it that way.
[22:35] <DasEi> mccoy: that won't boot (grub,kaspar)
[22:35] <Travis-42> can anyone point me to a good bluetooth troubleshooting doc? I can't get it to work in 10.04 or 10.10!
[22:35] <coz_> Sheet, ok now open applications / sound and video and handbrake should be there
[22:35] <DasEi> mccoy: you can have the iso on cd and do a kickstart install
[22:35] <coz_> Sheet,   see it?
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> OneSoulLegion:  theres #ubuntu-server (or was it #ubuntuserver) channekl also.
[22:36] <Sheet> yes
[22:36] <Sheet> thank you co
[22:36] <Sheet> coz_,
[22:36] <OneSoulLegion> Dr_Willis: Ah, thanks. I'll have a look in there.
[22:36] <vvanker> I need to work on this server now: If I set IP to manual and remove the gateway will this block the machine from the www???
[22:36] <coz_> Sheet,  no problem
[22:36] <Sheet> i gotta write this down of how to work this
[22:36] <FloodBot4> Sheet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <Sheet> how to install
[22:36] <jo__> what does the '%u' mean afther the command in the gnome-menu, for example thunderbird %u
[22:36] <PeterNL> I think it stands for URL
[22:36] <distant2> Jordan_U: preferences of file management, for icon size! found it.
[22:37] <distant2> with ubuntu, i think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. ^^
[22:37] <GeO`> hey there
[22:37] <PeterNL> In the acse of thuderbird, expect something like mailto:some@address.com?subject=someSubject&body=someText
[22:37] <coz_> Sheet,   it is already installed just click the shortcut in the menu and it should open
[22:37] <PeterNL> case*
[22:37] <Sir_Konrad> distant2, hope you love Ubuntu. ;)
[22:37] <GeO`> I got an issue, consider I'm a newbie with ubuntu
[22:38] <DasEi> GeO`: so ?
[22:38] <GeO`> my / partition is 70% filled up. I do a /service apache2 restart    and it frees a lot of space, and it's then just 30% filled
[22:38] <odd11to67> has anyone had any issues installing 10.10 involving their monitor? i run the install from the boot menu but the screen goes blank?
[22:38] <odd11to67> any direction would be helpful
[22:38] <GeO`> how come ?
[22:38] <Travis-42> I can't seem to enable bluetooth under 10.10 (I also tried 10.04). it works under Vista, XP, and seemed to work under 9.04. any ideas?
[22:39] <mun24> I have asterisk process running and it process files in /var/run/asterisk folder, I am unable to connect to these process files, getting this error Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?)
[22:39] <mun24> any clue
[22:39] <mun24> it could be permission issue
[22:39] <DasEi> GeO`: strange, which size has has your root (df -h in terminal) ?
[22:39] <GeO`> 9.7G (the used partition)
[22:39] <GeO`> mounted on /
[22:39] <NetScr1be> trying to make a USB startup disk but the tool complains there is no free space
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> NetScr1be:  be sure you select the sda1 partition (or whatver) in the list. not the 'sda' partition.
[22:41] <Travis-42> anyone ever bought canonical's personal desktop support? I'm desperate.
[22:41] <DasEi> NetScr1be: which tool ? size of usb ?
[22:41] <lidbjork> Anyone besides me getting "Network error" when connecting to ICQ with Empathy? Is there a way to fix that?
[22:41] <GeO`> DasEi I ran that before and after a restart : du -hms /* | sort -nr | head
[22:41] <DasEi> GeO`: any massive databse on apache ?
[22:41] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, is the bluetooth driver installed?
[22:42] <DasEi> GeO`: any massive database* on apache ?
[22:42] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, as far as I know. what package should I need?
[22:42] <GeO`> DasEi : yes, ~800MB. The result of the command is there http://nopaste.info/bb415f712d.html
[22:42] <osteenbergen> System>Administration>Additional drivers
[22:42] <osteenbergen> it should list bluetooth if it needs a driver
[22:42] <NetScr1be> tool: usb-creator-gtk USB actually 2GB SD Card
[22:42] <GeO`> note that the result is the same before AND after
[22:42] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, no bluetooth is listed there
[22:42] <GeO`> tho a lot of space has been freed
[22:42] <GeO`> so it's driving me crazy :)
[22:42] <NetScr1be> Dr_Willis, I did that thanx
[22:43] <DasEi> NetScr1be: trash emptied after deletion ?
[22:43] <NetScr1be> formatted the card with the tool still no space
[22:43] <NetScr1be> whatdeletion?
[22:43] <NetScr1be> what deletion?
[22:43] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, okee and under System>Preferences>Bluetooth you checked the show bluetooth icon?
[22:44] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, yes. the bluetooth icon is showing.
[22:44] <DasEi> NetScr1be: I thought of if you just delete files from the usb, space is still "filled" unless you rm it (empty trash) well formatting should do the trick, try again with gparted
[22:44] <osteenbergen> and what status does it show?
[22:45] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, it is greyed out. in the preferences it says "bluetooth is disabled". click on "turn on bluetooth" does nothing
[22:45] <NetScr1be> deleted partition via fdisk
[22:46] <DasEi> NetScr1be: and setup new fs with mkfs ?
[22:46] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, l will check my pc on how to find out.. brb
[22:46] <DasEi> !who | NetScr1be
[22:47] <NetScr1be> DasEi, no using a gui tool (usb-creator-gtk) because short for time
[22:48] <NetScr1be> DasEi, installing gparted now
[22:48] <DasEi> and then use unetbootin
[22:49] <p3rror> is there anyone who have a wireless-n centrino 1000 card
[22:50] <p3rror> i can not make this working on my box
[22:50] <GeO`> DasEi you got an idea about my problem ?
[22:51] <odd11to67> quit
[22:51] <DasEi> GeO`: not really, if all data is stored on the system, and you got least a 1GB free on / that should work
[22:51] <NetScr1be> DasEi, smae thing usb-creator-gtk claims there is no free space
[22:51] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, what does the command "hciconfig -a" return?
[22:52] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, it returns nothing
[22:52] <DasEi> NetScr1be: worked for me, but I'm using unetbootin for a long time, give it a try, quite similar
[22:52] <GeO`> DasEi well at the end of they day 100% of the space is taken
[22:52] <amellenico> Ciao a tutti
[22:52] <NetScr1be> DasEi, OK
[22:52] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, okee then it is a driver problem. What kind of bluetooth device do you have?
[22:53] <DasEi> GeO`: acces from elsewhere ? writeaccess ?
[22:54] <GeO`> I don't get what you mean sorry
[22:54] <Matrixoracle> got a question about nvidia drivers and getting decent gfx on world of wearcraft running thru wine
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> !appdb
[22:54] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, it's a Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Module
[22:54] <DasEi> GeO`: apache is a webserver, and if it fills up, apart from logs, can mean there is something/one writing to it
[22:55] <GeO`> but why this does not appear on the nopaste I gave you ?
[22:55] <GeO`> and also what would be this data and why are they gone when I restart apache
[22:56] <DasEi> GeO`: the paste just shows some output of missing files
[22:57] <NetScr1be> DasEi, unetbootin working now
[22:57] <NetScr1be> DasEi, <sigh>
[22:57] <GeO`> DasEi "1950    /var " is what all the apache stuff takes, isn't it ?
[22:57] <NetScr1be> DasEi, will open a bug on usb-creator-gtk
[22:58] <DasEi> NetScr1be: boot 'em all ;)
[22:58] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, does "lsusb| grep Bluetooth" show a device?
[22:58] <NetScr1be> DasEi, :)
[22:58] <DasEi> NetScr1be: logs mainly
[22:58] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, it says: Bus 003 Device 008: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
[23:00] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, okee thats something :) I got the same chip
[23:00] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, heh :-)
[23:00] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, but no Bluetooth HCI device?
[23:01] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, nope, hciconfig won't find anything
[23:01] <maximumHAX> what package updates my menus automatically in blackbox ? I have chromium-browser installed which does not show in my menu, if i edit menu file myself it will be there for a bit them get removed? is there a way to tell the menu app to keep it? or can I disable the app all together?
[23:02] <markrtoon> o
[23:03] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, try "rfkill list"
[23:04] <symbolic> Hello, I'm trying to use APTonCD to install packages (openbox etc.) on a server which is not connected to the internet yet. Using a DVD-RW to do it, but when "sudo apt-cdrom add"-ing the DVD-RW on the machine, it complains that it cannot find packages, because it isn't a debian disk or the wrong architecture... Is it the fact that it is a DVD-RW? Thanks
[23:04] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, comes up with "dell-bluetooth: Bluetooth" "soft blocked: no" "hard blocked: no"
[23:05] <Dwade09> hey guys if i format my hard drive and make part of it ntfs, for windows how do i get the windows xp partition to show up in grub menu or for that matter get the grub menu to show up at all?
[23:06] <markrtoon> Hmm...
[23:06] <LoganJRuff> symbolic, I am unfamiliar with this issue - but DVD's and CD's are formatted to hold media differently, so I'd assume that might be the issue.
[23:06] <markrtoon> Basically, you're just trying to add a entry to the grub bootloader?
[23:06] <markrtoon> That's actually a quick easy google away.
[23:07] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, try "sudo service bluetooth status"
[23:07] <symbolic> @Logan, APTonCD allows you to select either CD or DVD to create the ISO, so i assume its possible to use DVD, is DVD-R architecture different from DVD-RW?
[23:07] <Dwade09> thanks markrtoon i will look it up i didnt know what it was actually called.
[23:07] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, "bluetooth is not running"
[23:07] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, now try "sudo service bluetooth start"
[23:08] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, displays no messages, and the previous status command says the same things
[23:09] <LoganJRuff> symbolic, I am reading on this issue now using Google. DVD-R's and DVD-RW's are formatted to hold media similarly, with the difference being that - by default - RW's don't close on default so you can add more media later. This has created a known issue in stereos (CD's), etc. Do you have a DVD-R? That would definately be the safer option.
[23:09] <Hellz_Bellz> hello, ssh isnt lettimg me tunnel
[23:09] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, no message is correct.. but does either the applet or preference application shows that it is working?
[23:09] <Hellz_Bellz> i use the -L option and it just gives me the help text
[23:09] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, nope. stays the same
[23:10] <Dwade09> markrtoon,  is this the link i would follow? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[23:10] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, then we need to check the log files...
[23:10] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, System>Administration>Log file viewer
[23:11] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, and then the deamon.log
[23:11] <osteenbergen> daemon.log*
[23:11] <symbolic> Logan, Not at this time, but I will try that tomorrow. When I put the DVD-RW in this machine (the one i am writing you on), ubuntu recognizes it as a dvd with pacakges, that's why im confused it didn't work on the server
[23:11] <markrtoon> Wait, you want to boot into ubuntu first, or windows?
[23:12] <markrtoon> Dwade09 Wait, you want to boot into ubuntu first, or windows?
[23:12] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, it should list some bluetooth information on the bottom of the log
[23:12] <bastidrazor> symbolic: possibly, you're using 32bit debs when they should be 64 or vice versa
[23:12] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, in daemon.log I see nothing about bluetooth at the bottom, in the last 30 minutes only messages from networkmanager and dhclient
[23:13] <Dwade09> markrtoon,  nono, i want it to let me choose what to boot into, see i dont have windows installed there for no need for grub, if i install windows behind ubuntu i would need grub so is that a guide to follow to get my grub up?
[23:13] <symbolic> bastidrazor: aah, yes, let me check, good point
[23:13] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, run the start command again and in the left pane some files should turn bold that something happend
[23:14] <symbolic> what is a quick command i can use to see if the machine i am on has 64bit or 32bit ubuntu installed
[23:14] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, the only one that turns bold is auth.log about me using sudo
[23:15] <blackshirt> symbolic: uname -a
[23:15] <osteenbergen> Travis, great :|
[23:15] <markrtoon> Dwade09, AH! Now I get it, you can just install windows alongside ubuntu, and then you'll need to get a software called "EASYBCD" It runs in windows, that way you can add a boot entry in the windows bootloader, and you don't even have to mess with grub.
[23:15] <goltoof> symbolic:   uname -a
[23:15] <bastidrazor> symbolic: uname -a .. look for x86_64  .. if you see that you're on 64bit if not then you are using 32bit
[23:16] <Dwade09> markrtoon,  i do not want to mess with easybsd i know about easybsd.
[23:16] <shawnboy> anyone know how to modify the OS title of the root Linux partition (handled by Grub 2 10_linux file)?
[23:16] <amellenico> Ciao a tutti
[23:16] <Guest30685> can someone help me and tell me what I'm doing wrong in compiling this autoclicker? http://xautoclick.sourceforge.net/documentation.html is what I'm using to help me compile it.
[23:16] <shawnboy> I want it to say "Lucid Lynx" or "Maverick Meerkat" instead of Ubuntu Linux 2.6.32-25
[23:17] <markrtoon> Hmm...Ok, then that guide should help ya out, just one question, why no easy bcd?
[23:17] <symbolic> thanks, i686, so 32bit, server is also 32 bit, so that's not it...
[23:20] <symbolic> bastidrazor et al: some background... basically i am creating this "APTonCD" dvd-rw on a 32 bit machine that has internet, picking packages from that system which i need on the server, then burning it and trying to load it as a repository on the server
[23:21] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, last hope try "sudo hciconfig hci0 reset"
[23:21] <jhutchins_lt> Where can I find what versions of the kernel are current or available?
[23:21] <Guest30685> can someone help me and tell me what I'm doing wrong in compiling this autoclicker? http://xautoclick.sourceforge.net/documentation.html is what I'm using to help me compile it.
[23:21] <d3vi1d06> yay installing ubuntu on a headless acer with 512kb of ram. wish me luck
[23:21] <ikonia> jhutchins_lt: the kernels are in the repo
[23:22] <jhutchins_lt> ikonia: So browse to what URL?
[23:22] <osteenbergen> Travis-42, and then "hcitool dev" to see if it appeared
[23:22] <pietro10> !jack
[23:22] <Diverdude> If i want to set readaccess for everybody on a folder and all its files,do i then do cd thefolder    and then    chmod 777 .  ?
[23:22] <ikonia> jhutchins_lt: open the package manager and search for "linux-image" it will show the packages
[23:22] <pietro10> ok...
[23:22] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, it doesn't reappear and it says "Can't get device info: No such device".
[23:22] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, oh well :/ thanks for your help
[23:24] <shcherbak> Diverdude: yer 777, but you would rather want add specific group (better security)
[23:25] <Travis-42> osteenbergen, I'm going to try some other things. thanks for your help
[23:25] <brentoids> I currently reboot my machine everytime my wifi card stops working.  I've played with drivers, but no luck.  Is there an easier method to simulate a reboot of the networking modules?
[23:25] <jhutchins_lt> ikonia: Yes, but the packages it shows will be for the distribution I'm actually running, not for ubuntu.
[23:26] <ikonia> jhutchins_lt: what version of ubuntu do you wish to run ?
[23:27] <aeon-ltd> brentoids: unload and reload them? maybe
[23:27] <pietro10_> ok I got cdisconnected; the last thing I got was what I said
[23:27] <pietro10_> I got some software synthesizers from the Ubuntu Software Center but they all need JACK to run. What's the proper way to set that up?
[23:27] <brentoids> aeon-ltd: do you know how i can figure out which ones to unload/reload?
[23:30] <ikonia> !info linux-image-jaunty
[23:30] <ikonia> !info linux-image-#jaunty
[23:30] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[23:30] <ikonia> !info linux-image#jaunty
[23:31] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Which java pkg should i install?  I'm running eclipse on Ubuntu 10.04
[23:32] <pietro10_> so do I just install jack and it should magically work?
[23:36] <Jordan_U> lamstyle: shawnboy
[23:36] <Jordan_U> Sorry, mistyped.
[23:36] <ikonia> !info linux-image jaunty | jhutchins_lt
[23:36] <jhutchins_lt> ikonia: thx.
[23:36] <alessandro_> ciao
[23:36] <dutchgirl> i'm in need of assistance. I'm trying to get my ssh working again both boxes are 10.10. i cannot get the 2nd box to allow me to connect. as soon as it connects it kicks me off. can someone please help me.
[23:37] <shcherbak> dutchgirl: firewall?
[23:37] <dutchgirl> not that i know of unless its internal
[23:37] <pietro10_> dutchgirl: how does it fail?
[23:37] <dutchgirl> i just finished installing
[23:37] <dutchgirl> mythbuntu prior to the reinstall the ssh worked great
[23:38] <dutchgirl> no, not so much
[23:38] <pietro10_> or rather
[23:38] <dutchgirl> connection closed connection to host <IP_ADDRESS> was closed
[23:38] <pietro10_> WHY DOES JACK WANT ME TO REMOVE PORTAUDIO
[23:38] <songer> pietro10_: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[23:38] <pietro10_> seriously, I'm sick of seeing that
[23:39] <pietro10_> ...
[23:39] <pietro10_> unless jack can't work with portaudio? if that's the case than it's stupid
[23:39] <ikonia> pietro10_: I don't need to see your caps lock rant
[23:39] <pietro10_> (my software uses portaudio)
[23:39] <dutchgirl> thats all it says
[23:39] <shcherbak> dutchgirl: can you run shh -vvvvvv <failing connection> and post it somewhere?
[23:39] <pietro10_> bah, you can't say anything on freenode without people forgetting your original question...
[23:40] <dutchgirl> so, to remedy the situation i accidently deleatd the ssh info file in the folder to hope to start over
[23:40] <dutchgirl> and now im lost
[23:40] <AR_> how do i make ubuntu not be slow as dongs
[23:40] <dutchgirl> ive tried searching on how to recreate and no luck
[23:40] <LeGrand_22Qc> for the SSH problem, I got the same trouble. My solution : Re-install from synaptic and then re-install (apt://openssh-server) ... then rebot...  ^^
[23:41] <LeGrand_22Qc> oups unistal
[23:41] <ikonia> AR_: you can start by explaining your question in a clear manner
[23:41] <shcherbak> dutchgirl: what file?
[23:41] <dutchgirl> so remove ssh reinstall then reboot right?
[23:41] <LeGrand_22Qc> don't "re-install" * Kick it
[23:41] <LeGrand_22Qc> and then re-install
[23:41] <dutchgirl> how do i kick it?
[23:41] <AR_> ikonia, for instance, sometimes loading a website in a new tab in firefox takes forever, firefox starts to hang, etc
[23:42] <ikonia> AR_: is it just firefox, or other applications too ?
[23:42] <AR_> ikonia, sometimes xchat also is pretty slow
[23:42] <AR_> firefox is slowest though
[23:42] <ikonia> AR_: any non-internet applications ?
[23:42] <AR_> it isnt internet related
[23:43] <ikonia> how do you know ?
[23:43] <osteenbergen> -h
[23:43] <AR_> ikonia, because i know my internet
[23:43] <ohir> AR_: you may try to use adblock + noscript plugins. Turn on your ABE to block access to rogue sites
[23:43] <AR_> it isnt the loading of the site that takes long
[23:43] <AR_> it is switching tabs and stuff too
[23:43] <ikonia> AR_: how do you know ?
[23:43] <AR_> because i fucking tried
[23:43] <ikonia> AR_: drop the language
[23:44] <AR_> yes mom
[23:44] <ikonia> AR_: you tried what ?, hence why I'm asking what non-internet applications are lagging
[23:44] <AR_> the whole system lags
[23:44] <ohir> AR_: how many GiG of RAM you have, how many tabs you open at once?
[23:44] <ikonia> AR_: that's not wha tyou said at the start
[23:45] <bluethundr> is there an automatic account management tool in ubuntu that is similar to auth-config under red hat that would allow automatic configuration of pam to do ldap lookups for it's information?
[23:46] <AR_> ohir, 500mb
[23:46] <AR_> pentium 4
[23:47] <Aer> Hi, I was wondering if anyone here Can give me a hand im still new to this and havent had to do this yet but, im unsure of how to compile or whatever it is i need to do for a tar.gz program i have downloaded to get it installed
[23:47] <vincenzino> hello i've installed VirtualBox (not OSE) on maverick, but all usb devices grey, so i can't access to them
[23:47] <Aer> is there anyone who could walk me through or point me in the right direction to get started please :)
[23:48] <Jordan_U> Aer: In most cases you don't want to install from a tar.gz. What are you trying to install specifically?
[23:48] <Aer> i downloaded qBittorent
[23:48] <Aer> it says its the source tarball on the download page
[23:49] <Aer> but i have no idea what to do with it :(
[23:49] <ohir> AR_: thats not a lot
[23:50] <ohir> AR_: and its a cause of your system being sluggish
[23:50] <ohir> AR_: you may either upgrade with next 512M of RAM or switch to much lighter xubuntu flavor
[23:51] <Aer> anyone mind giving me a hand with installing a source tarball program please ?
[23:51] <shcherbak> AR_: what version are you running?
[23:51] <ohir> AR_: for now you just should be careful how many apps (and ff tabs) you open at once
[23:51] <Aer> its my first time im not so sure what to do
[23:52] <ikonia> Aer: what do you want to install?
[23:52] <AR_> shcherbak, 10.10
[23:52] <cwillu_at_work> AR_, might try chromium, but if you're running short on ram (which you probably are with 512mb), you're going to be tight
[23:52] <ohir> Aer: after unpacking tarball you should find in created dir file named INSTALL or README
[23:52] <Aer> qbittorrent
[23:52] <ohir> Aer: there are detailed instructions how to configure/compile
[23:52] <ikonia> Aer: that's in the ubuntu repos
[23:53] <Aer> i followed the readme but i ran into some errors
[23:53] <cwillu_at_work> AR_, if you keep lots of tabs open, take a look at the "bartab" firefox extension.  It unloads tabs you haven't looked at in a while in a transparent way, which will help
[23:53] <Aer> the one in the ubuntu repos is outdated
[23:53] <ikonia> !info qbittorrent
[23:53] <Aer> i wanted the up to date one so i downloaded it from the website
[23:53] <ikonia> Aer: it's fine, the one in the repos works fine
[23:53] <ohir> Aer: tar -ztf tarball.tgz | less will show you whats inside tarball
[23:53] <ikonia> Aer: what's in the up to date version thats not in the ubuntu one
[23:53] <Aer> i just prefer the software i use to be up to date :/
[23:53] <jacknibb> hello. i need someones undivided attn. it's about wireless usb adapter
[23:53] <ohir> Aer: tar -zxf tarball.tgz will unpack it
[23:53] <ikonia> Aer: what's in the later version that you need or want
[23:53] <MrDudle> jacknibb: you won't get undivided attention unless you pay for it :P
[23:53] <shcherbak> Aer: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-tarballs/ all in limited to 4 commands (if smooth) or dependency issues (thats why we use .deb)
[23:53] <boch> good night, can someone help me, i cant run any kind of binary that is not installed from the reps, neither run script this way: ./script.sh. I have to run them like this: bash script.sh. Neither tab completes my binaries or scripts, like it does not detects them as executables (it is not a permission issue, also tried everything)
[23:54] <jacknibb> any help will do
[23:54] <Aer> im not sure but like i said i just prefer the software i use to be up to date, they wouldnt make a new version if there was nothing better in it e.g. bug fix or better ui etc
[23:54] <ste> ciao
[23:54] <tucemiux> boch, chmod +x script.sh
[23:54] <ste> |list
[23:54] <ikonia> Aer: then you have no idea what you're saying if you want a later version for no rason
[23:54] <ikonia> reason
[23:54] <Aer> well its not for no reason really... they make upates for reasons ?
[23:54] <Aer> not cus they are bored
[23:55] <jacknibb> gotta start high. my internal wireless card went out. so i bought a wireless usb adapter, but don't know how to install it
[23:55] <shcherbak> AR_: You have very low spec for 10.10 (ram) use lighter software (links2 irrsi)
[23:55] <ikonia> Aer: I strongly suggest using the ubuntu version, it's stable and compiled for you, plus you won't have the pain of QT lib dependencies
[23:55] <ikonia> Aer: the updates could be for distros like redhat, which as your not using, won't matter as an example
[23:55] <ikonia> Aer: the people who package for ubuntu put time into using the best version for your distro, I suggest you trust them
[23:55] <AR_> shcherbak, that's ridiculous for a linux system
[23:55] <jacknibb> any ideas
[23:55] <d3vi1d06> aer: new versions could be beta, and unstable
[23:56] <ohir> Aer: brand new version of software can contain brand new bugs. So its wise to wait until more experienced users will find and report them ;)
[23:56] <AR_> i thought 10.10 was going to save ubuntu
[23:56] <AR_> i guess not
[23:56] <Aer> hmm but i was told in this chat before that the software in my "ubuntu software centre" never gets updated only when i upgrade my Ubuntu to the new distro then my software will be updated with it
[23:56] <MrDudle> uh that sounds wrong Aer
[23:56] <ohir> Aer: someone lied to you
[23:56] <ikonia> Aer: the version that is latest, may be incmpatible with ubuntu deps, so again, trust the packages, you've said you have no need for th later version beyond "you want it"
[23:56] <Percius> Can someone please explain to me exactly what happened with LIRC, and the new kernel. My device is detected by the new kernel, but I don't know how to program universal remote codes for it.
[23:56] <MrDudle> very very wrong
[23:56] <Aer> hmm ok
[23:56] <ohir> Aer: every day there are updated versions of software
[23:57] <Aer> quick question then if you dont mind ?
[23:57] <shcherbak> AR_: nope, just for some applications, i run ubuntu on weaker machines just fine
[23:57] <MrDudle> don't ask to ask just ask
[23:57] <ikonia> Aer: please.
[23:57] <Aer> becuase im confused about the software for ubuntu with these versions :s
[23:57] <jacknibb> how do i install the new wireless usb adapter
[23:57] <Spaztic_One> Hey, I need assistance connecting my 10.10.laptop with my winxp desktop via ethernet cable
[23:57] <MrDudle> aehow so?
[23:57] <MrDudle> Aer: how so*
[23:57] <ikonia> Aer: here to help, so go for it
[23:57] <LeGrand_22Qc> jackcr, I install many "usb wirless card", and allway, without reboot, Ubuntu detect the card and show my wirless netwrk... Check if you blacklisted some driver when you install your internal card or if you have NDiswarper installed :)
[23:57] <Aer> when i load up the ubuntu software centre
[23:58] <Aer> and if i install programs from there, will the programs i installed from there be updated with my update manager when new stable versions are released ?
[23:58] <jacknibb> but how
[23:58] <ikonia> Aer: when the ubuntu developers package updates/later versions, they will get updated on your system
[23:58] <jacknibb> my internal wireless just don't work, so i bought the usb
[23:58] <Aer> so i dont need to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 10.10 to get newer software lists ?
[23:58] <Aer> *versions
[23:59] <goltoof> any way to get more visuals for mplayer?
[23:59] <ikonia> Aer: depends, some versions will not be back ported, others will, it's very much package dependant
[23:59] <ikonia> dependent
[23:59] <jacknibb> and where is this blacklist u mentioned


[08:38] <arunpyasi> Hi cjwatson, All amd64 builders are down :(
[08:38] <arunpyasi> Any updates on that ?
[09:26] <arunpyasi> Hello, anyone around please ?
[10:59] <cjwatson> arunpyasi: I see you've asked this both here and in #canonical-sysadmin.  Answered there
[10:59] <cjwatson> Would rather you didn't try to page me directly on a Saturday though :-/
[11:02] <arunpyasi> cjwatson, :D thanks for the info :D
[11:19] <cjwatson> Fixed


[15:08] <_Xurxo_> Hello :)
[15:09] <_Xurxo_> Is this the correct channel to launch a question about Kubuntu Jaunty and problems with xorg?
[15:09] <Myrtti> no, that would be #kubuntu
[15:09] <_Xurxo_> thanks ;)
[19:01] <LjL> ugh
[19:01]  * LjL looks at #Ubuntu-pr and #Ubuntu-puertorico and their access lists
[19:01] <LjL> ugh.
[19:02] <Pici> ugh
[19:03] <LjL> besides, i kinda suspect that #ubuntu-puertorico was made because the +F person of #ubuntu-pr ceased being around
[19:06] <Pici> ugh ugh ugh
[19:22] <niko> what the matter with the access list
[19:24] <LjL> niko: are you kidding? :P there's a dozen of failed attempts to create operators by hostmasks
[19:27] <LjL> niko: someone who wants to gain operator access maliciously can do it in no time, with that horrbile AL
[19:32] <niko> yes i joking :)


[07:15] <sid> @schedule New_York
[07:15] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/New_York: 10 Feb 16:00: Ubuntu Canada | 11 Feb 17:00: LoCo Teams | 12 Feb 15:00: Screencast Team | 13 Feb 07:00: Community Council | 13 Feb 11:00: Forum Council | 13 Feb 15:00: Technical Board
[07:21] <lfittl> @schedule vienna
[07:21] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Vienna: 10 Feb 22:00: Ubuntu Canada | 11 Feb 23:00: LoCo Teams | 12 Feb 21:00: Screencast Team | 13 Feb 13:00: Community Council | 13 Feb 17:00: Forum Council | 13 Feb 21:00: Technical Board
[09:39] <P235> hi
[09:40] <lophyte> hey folks
[09:40] <lophyte> we'll be starting in about 20 minutes I assume :)
[09:40] <P235> am I here at the right time?
[09:40] <P235> ah, okay
[09:40] <P235> what is the meeting for?
[09:41] <lophyte> pending me washing the kitchen floor and Burgundavia showing up
[09:41] <lophyte> just general discussion, mostly
[09:41] <lophyte> I'll post the agenda on the wiki, one sec
[09:41] <P235> sounds good.  I'm new so any guidance is welcome.
[09:43] <Skapi_> hallos! I'm new as well
[09:43] <lophyte> for the most part, we're going to be talking about ubuntu.ca, as well as discussing the creation of new local subgroups
[09:43] <stgraber> @schedule Zurich
[09:43] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Zurich: 10 Feb 22:00: Ubuntu Canada | 11 Feb 23:00: LoCo Teams | 12 Feb 21:00: Screencast Team | 13 Feb 13:00: Community Council | 13 Feb 17:00: Forum Council | 13 Feb 21:00: Technical Board
[09:44] <P235> okay
[09:44] <P235> P235
[09:46] <P235> does anyone have any useful online linux learning resources?  I'm always looking to expand my bookmarks.
[09:48] <lophyte> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings
[09:48] <lophyte> today's agenda
[09:48] <lophyte> note that the agenda is open
[09:48] <lophyte> so if you have things you'd like to say, questions you'd like to ask, etc. they can be added
[09:49] <P235> I see
[09:54] <P235> darn...looks like I'm going to miss out on the meeting
[09:54] <lophyte> why?
[09:54] <P235> i have to run an unexpected errand.
[09:55] <lophyte> ah.. well, notes will be posted on the wiki and on the mailing list, and logs can be found at the URL above
[09:55] <P235> sounds good.  Good to meet you lophyte
[09:56] <P235> How often does the group have meetings?
[09:58] <lophyte> P235: we're gonna try to make them monthly
[09:59] <P235> Aw...so much for my good timing.  I'll sign up for the mailing list then.  Have a good day everyone.
[09:59] <lophyte> you too :)
[10:01] <lophyte> who's here for the ubuntu canada meeting?
[10:02] <Skapi_> I am :)
[10:03] <lophyte> hehe, only you? :P
[10:03] <futz48> the other 86 people are here by accident ;-)
[10:04] <lophyte> anyone else?
[10:07] <futz48> wow! pretty interesting meeting...
[10:07] <lophyte> indeed
[10:07] <futz48> don't all talk at once
[10:08] <despot32> yeah that could be hard to follow
[10:08] <lophyte> I'm waiting for more people to show up before beginning
[10:08] <futz48> k
[10:08] <lophyte> most importantly the ubuntu canada leader
[10:09] <futz48> I'm new to this group thing - what is the purpose of local groups?
[10:09] <despot32> to group locally
[10:09] <futz48> or whatever they're called
[10:09] <lophyte> local community teams more or less serve the purpose of local advocacy and support
[10:09] <futz48> clubs, like?
[10:09] <futz48> oh, ok
[10:09] <lophyte> and in most countries they also work on localization/translations
[10:10] <lophyte> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams for more info :)
[10:10] <despot32> i do not think i can join. i am not sufficiently loco :(
[10:10] <lophyte> lol
[10:10] <futz48> so we should, like, translate, eh? ya hoser :-D
[10:10] <lophyte> haha
[10:11] <lophyte> "You reallywant to close Firefox, eh?"
[10:11] <lophyte> that'd be pretty funny
[10:11] <futz48> hehehe
[10:11] <futz48> "This might take a while.
 I'm currently leading the Toronto subgroup of Ubuntu Canada
[10:19] <lophyte> hey jamon
[10:19] <lophyte> welcome
[10:19] <jamonation> hi
[10:19] <jamonation> just starting?
[10:19] <lophyte> yup
[10:19] <Skapi_> I'm Skapi, hailing from Richmond, BC
[10:19] <lophyte> Corey hasn't shown up
[10:19] <futz48> futz from Ladner, BC
[10:19] <lophyte> welcome guys :)
[10:20] <despot32> alex, waterloo ontario
[10:20] <darkenergy> I'm Blaine.   Occasionally join in the Toronto meetings...
[10:20] <lophyte> ahh.. hey Blaine :)
[10:20] <darkenergy> :D
[10:20] <jamonation> jamon, usu. found working in cahoots with lophyte
[10:20] <lophyte> hehe
[10:20] <lophyte> welcome  everyone
[10:21] <jamonation> there a link to the agenda for this meeting on the wiki?
[10:21] <lophyte> yup
[10:21] <lophyte> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings
[10:21] <jamonation> ty
[10:21] <lophyte> before we begin, does anyone have any questions about the meeting or the team?
[10:21] <despot32> i do. where is the coffee
[10:22] <lophyte> haha
[10:22] <lophyte> I bet in your kitchen
[10:22] <futz48> in the grinder hopper
[10:22] <despot32> yeah it is, but it's like 2 days old. screw that
[10:22] <lophyte> lol
[10:22] <darkenergy> I've got tea.
[10:23] <lophyte> no questions from anyone?
[10:23] <despot32> no legitimate questions
[10:23] <darkenergy> onward with the question about the Cdn site?
[10:23] <futz48> yer gonna have to lead on
[10:23] <lophyte> sounds good
[10:24] <lophyte> Ubuntu Canada was recently approved by the Ubuntu Community Council as an *official* local community team
[10:24] <lophyte> as such, this gives us access to a few benefits
[10:24] <lophyte> one being that we get a shipment of 500 CDs for every release
[10:24] <lophyte> another being that we have access to Canonical web hosting
[10:24] <jamonation> shell access?
[10:24] <lophyte> I'm not sure what sort of access we have to it
[10:25] <lophyte> I just know that we can host our site on Canonical's servers
[10:25] <despot32> how local exactly can communities get?
[10:25] <despot32> cause i mean, Canada's quite the community
[10:25] <darkenergy> lol
[10:25] <despot32> can we do Ubuntu Siberia next?
[10:26] <lophyte> its suggested that you have a LoCo for a country, and then subgroups of it
[10:26] <lophyte> so, there is an ubuntu-us with subgroups (such as ubuntu-chicago) of it
[10:26] <darkenergy> does the site need to be moved?   is the current hosting a problem?
[10:26] <despot32> oh, okay. that makes sense.
[10:26] <lophyte> its currently hosted on an old box in Burgundavia's basement
[10:26] <jamonation> makes distributing 500cds difficult...
[10:26] <darkenergy> ie. does it have limited bandwidth, transfer caps etc
[10:26] <darkenergy> ah
[10:26] <lophyte> Burgundavia being the leader of ubuntu canada ;)
[10:27] <lophyte> so it'd be preferable to move it to Canonical's servers
[10:27] <jamonation> so there is a question as to moving it? why wouldn't we?
[10:27] <jamonation> faster, more reliable
[10:27] <darkenergy> righto
[10:27] <lophyte> no, that's not the question.. we are moving it
[10:27] <jamonation> good
[10:27] <lophyte> the question thats put forth to the Canadian community.. what would you like to see
[10:27] <ReK_`laptop`> hello all, sorry im late
[10:27] <lophyte> what would you like to see on ubuntu.ca/ubuntu-ca.org*
[10:27] <jamonation> the CMS is the question then
[10:28] <darkenergy> oh, lets figure out what before how
[10:28] <lophyte> yup.. Brian Burger, the current webmaster, wants to put a CMS on it so that community members can volunteer as editors and news posters
[10:28] <jamonation> well, looks like ubuntu australia is using drupal
[10:28] <lophyte> also suggested was a "Planet Ubuntu Canada," which is basically a news aggregator which pulls content from Canadian members' blogs
[10:29] <jamonation> waht are other LoCo teams using? planet aggregation?
[10:29] <despot32> i like that idea.
[10:29] <darkenergy> and are their going to be subsections for locals groups?
[10:29] <lophyte> darkenergy: most likely... Brian mentioned having a ubuntu.ca/toronto for example
[10:29] <lophyte> or toronto.ubuntu.ca depending on what kind of access we get to DNS
[10:30] <jamonation> would that mean changes to mailman or is that hosted elsewhere?
[10:30] <despot32> if you can get wildcard dns enabled you could just use a rewrite to map that
[10:30] <lophyte> jamonation: mailman is hosted by Canonical already
[10:30] <lophyte> lists.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <jamonation> it would be nice to have an archive of emails on the site, with comments enabled
[10:30] <darkenergy> probably just as easy to organize the subgroups in the CMS
[10:30] <jamonation> sorta like gmane, but integrated into whatever other CMS we use
[10:31] <lophyte> ReK_`laptop`: btw, welcome... our agenda is here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings
[10:31] <ReK_`laptop`> thanks
[10:31] <lophyte> jamonation: good idea
[10:31] <jamonation> are the 2 or 3 people that volunteered to help with the site present?
[10:31] <lophyte> kind of like a forum-style interface to the mailing list
[10:31] <jamonation> yeah
[10:31] <lophyte> I don't think so
[10:32] <ReK_`laptop`> im one of them
[10:32] <jamonation> i think drupal has a mailman module too ;)
[10:32] <lophyte> ah
[10:32] <lophyte> I know that when we launched ubuntutoronto.org on Drupal, Corey had issues with it.. we'll have to talk to him
[10:32] <ReK_> but i cant start for another week or so, deadlines creeping up :(
[10:32] <darkenergy> what does Cory  like?
[10:32] <jamonation> anything python?
[10:32] <lophyte> I'm not sure
[10:33] <jamonation> well, whatever we choose, I can help with the theming
[10:33] <lophyte> I'll be posting notes from the meeting on the wiki and the mailing list, so Corey can respond to these questions
[10:34] <lophyte> ReK_: no worries.. we still need to move it over to Canonical hosting first anyhow
[10:34] <ReK_> what about phpbb? it has built-in groups, easily moddable and there are already cms mods out for it
[10:34] <despot32> i liked phpbb when i used it on one of my sites
[10:34] <lophyte> the issue I see with phpbb is that it wouldn't integrate with the mailing list
[10:34] <ReK_> how do we want it to intergrate? i might be able to work on that
[10:34] <darkenergy> and its got a history of security probs
[10:35] <lophyte> the majority of our discussion traffic is on the mailing list.. if we wanted to create a forum, it would ideally work with the list
[10:35] <jamonation> http://drupal.org/project/listhandler
[10:35] <lophyte> jamonation: checking..
[10:35] <lophyte> Drupal fanboy ;)
[10:35] <jamonation> indeed
[10:35] <lophyte> jamonation: looks like what we need..
[10:36] <darkenergy> so, I'm not personally convinced that drupal is the greatest choice if you want to get non-technical editors involved
[10:36] <jamonation> why not?
[10:36] <lophyte> drupal's content posting is quite intuitive
[10:36] <darkenergy> ok.   /runs for exit
[10:36] <jamonation> there is also a wysiwyg javascript editor
[10:37] <jamonation> no no, it's a valid concern
[10:37] <lophyte> darkenergy: ubuntutoronto.org runs on Drupal, and Kim has posted on it many times
[10:37] <darkenergy> LOL
[10:37] <lophyte> its almost his personal blog ;)
[10:37] <ReK_> about mailing list on phpbb: http://www.mail2forum.com
[10:37] <jamonation> how many of us have a personal blog or site?
[10:37] <lophyte> ReK_: checking...
[10:37] <ReK_> already done, with 2 way comunication between the list and the forum
[10:38] <lophyte> I know as a fact that people have requested we set up a forum
[10:38] <jamonation> if most of us have a site already, aggregating into a planet would be best no?
[10:38] <ReK_> yeah
[10:38] <lophyte> jamonation: yup.. but we also want ubuntu canada specific content as well, not just aggregated blogs
[10:39] <jamonation> right, so here again, drupal, bear with me:
[10:39] <jamonation> forum, integrated and installed in drupal by default
[10:39] <ReK_> we could get the planet to only read blog posts with the ubunu-ca tag?
[10:39] <ReK_> or ubuntu* might be better
[10:40] <darkenergy> if you're using venus its got good filters
[10:40] <jamonation> aggregation, module is included in core, allows the admin to choose whatever feed, in multiple formats
[10:40] <jamonation> content posting, done, mailing list integration, doable
[10:40] <lophyte> well, before we start arguing what CMS is going to be used, let's focus on what features we want
[10:40] <jamonation> I'll make a list on the wiki page?
[10:41] <ReK_> so far im seeing news post, mailing list, basic forums and planet-style post aggregation
[10:41] <ReK_> although the latter could be seperated out of the cms easily
[10:41] <jamonation> same goes for the forum
[10:42] <jamonation> though a single sign on auth mechanism is preferable
[10:42] <jamonation> what about wiki? just use the main ubuntu wiki?
[10:42] <ReK_> if we can use the forum to make news posts by using user groups/hidden forums, it would be extremely simplistic for editors
[10:43] <lophyte> yup...
[10:43] <jamonation> hey one sec. lets take a step back...
[10:43] <lophyte> any and all wiki needs are met by the existing wiki
[10:43] <jamonation> what are we trying to do with the site? we have it, but why? what is it's purpose?
[10:43] <jamonation> if we start there, the CMS and feature will follow
[10:43] <lophyte> a community portal, I would say
[10:43] <ReK_> news, a place to gather and talk
[10:43] <ReK_> what he said, basically :P
[10:44] <lophyte> it would serve the news function it currently serves
[10:44] <jamonation> ok, so a portal to events, thoughts, howtos, mailing list?
[10:44] <lophyte> yup
[10:44] <jamonation> right
[10:44] <ReK_> I could see other features n the future, like a downloads section, media gallery
[10:44] <lophyte> a photo gallery was also suggested
[10:44] <jamonation> photos/videos/podcasts?
[10:45] <lophyte> videos could be hosted on youtube or ubuntuvideo.com and linked to from ubuntu.ca
[10:45] <despot32> yeah
[10:45] <despot32> this sounds quite complicated
[10:45] <lophyte> how so?
[10:45] <ReK_> if were going for a gallery, id suggest this: http://gallery.menalto.com/
[10:45] <ReK_> we use it for the dystopia pr gallery
[10:46] <despot32> i mean, will people have use for all these features? sounds like a lot
[10:46] <darkenergy> I think you probably want to find out what Canonical will supply before selecting packages
[10:46] <lophyte> agreed
[10:46] <darkenergy> ditto
[10:46] <jamonation> i think they'll do whatever runs on the lamp stack
[10:46] <lophyte> despot32: news and forums isn't complicated
[10:46] <despot32> no, not at all
[10:46] <lophyte> other features can be added later, if needed
[10:46] <despot32> but videos?
[10:46] <jamonation> there's a gallery plugin for drupal :)
[10:46] <ReK_> and everything else is gravy that you dopnt have to go to if you dont want
[10:46] <despot32> i mean are we gonna make ubuntu films?
[10:46] <darkenergy> yeah, but you need community first.   if you supply empty space it won't be all that inviting
[10:47] <lophyte> despot32: Ubuntu Toronto is planning to :)
[10:47] <lophyte> but
[10:47] <ReK_> well, see, this is why i said i could see these features later
[10:47] <lophyte> let's get back to the point...
[10:47] <lophyte> we've got:
[10:47] <lophyte> 1) news
[10:47] <lophyte> 2) mailing list-integated forums
[10:47] <lophyte> 3) news aggregator
[10:47] <lophyte> I think this is a good place to start
[10:47] <despot32> those 3 sound good
[10:48] <jamonation> yeah
[10:48] <despot32> brb...
[10:48] <lophyte> anything further can be added later, if needed
[10:48] <jamonation> apart from mailing list, I think pretty much any CMS will suffice
[10:48] <lophyte> I agree
[10:48] <lophyte> I'd suggest Drupal as well
[10:49] <lophyte> we'll see  what Brian and Corey think
[10:49] <ReK_> im still partial to phpbb, it can do everything but news aggregation and is more user-friendly for the editors
[10:49] <jamonation> anyone else?
[10:49] <jamonation> ReK_: but for admin it is a royal PITA
[10:49] <ReK_> no
[10:50] <lophyte> phpbb isn't a CMS though...
[10:50] <ReK_> it can be modded into one
[10:50] <lophyte> that creates work
[10:50] <jamonation> why not go with CMS to begin with then?
[10:50] <lophyte> someone has to mod it
[10:50] <ReK_> i will, i have before
[10:51] <lophyte> rather than modding something that isn't a CMS.. why not go with a CMS to start
[10:51] <darkenergy> agree
[10:51] <jamonation> anyone used typo3 or other enterprise CMSes?
[10:51] <jamonation> plone?
[10:51] <lophyte> whether its Drupal or not isn't a concern at the moment
[10:52] <darkenergy> I used typo2.   it was ok but you have to be happy with ruby hacking
[10:52] <darkenergy> plone, sucks from what I know
[10:52] <jamonation> hmm, wait a sec., forums can go on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=183
[10:52] <jamonation> which is the LoCo team portion of the forums
[10:53] <darkenergy> nice
[10:53] <lophyte> it could, but is it a good idea to duplicate discussions?
[10:53] <jamonation> it would do ubuntu more good to have them there too
[10:53] <darkenergy> integrated search if its colo'd
[10:54] <jamonation> it also has integrated rss, so we could aggregate that onto ubuntu.ca
[10:54] <lophyte> I wonder if there's a way to integrate ubunuforums with the mailing lists
[10:54] <jamonation> and to have all locos centralized would boost their profile to new users, since forums are usu. their first stop
[10:54] <darkenergy> and less admin too
[10:54] <jamonation> there are plugins for posting to mailing lists form a cms
[10:55] <jamonation> even wordpress has one for mailman
[10:55] <lophyte> indeed.. but I mean ubuntuforums+mailman
[10:55] <jamonation> ubuntuforums->ubuntu.ca CMS->mailman
[10:55] <jamonation> through rss
[10:55] <lophyte> ah, perhaps
[10:55] <lophyte> not sure if it would work the other way though
[10:56] <ReK_> that would be somewhat of a hackjob, we'd have to hide the 'news posts' coming from the forums
[10:56] <ReK_> and it wouldnt be 2wayu
[10:56] <lophyte> I was hoping that we could set it up so that the forums and the mailing lists would essentially be one in the same
[10:57] <lophyte> but I don't think its a huge issue to have it separate
[10:57] <ReK_> the way I saw was one sub forum would be the mailing list, fully 2 way. the other forums wouldnt, however, otherwise the list wouldnt know where to put new threads
[10:57] <jamonation> well, we know what we want, so lets put it on the wiki and more on to the next item on the agenda
[10:57] <despot32> ok back, sorry. headache.
[10:57] <jamonation> wait for Corey and Brian and then charge ahead
[10:58] <lophyte> good call
[10:58] <lophyte> the next item is regarding Ubuntu Canada subgroups
[10:58] <lophyte> currently, as far as I know, the only one that exists is in Toronto
[10:58] <lophyte> there's been talk of people wanting to start one in New Brunswick and Winnipeg, but I've heard nothing about them so far
[10:59] <ReK_> vancouver too
[10:59] <lophyte> how far is Victoria from Vancouver?
[10:59] <darkenergy> a boat ride
[10:59] <ReK_> a ferry ride
[10:59] <despot32> victoria's on an island
[11:00] <lophyte> ah
[11:00] <lophyte> yeah i knew it was on the island
[11:00] <jamonation> they might as well be 2 distinct groups
[11:00] <ReK_> say, 2-3 hours
[11:01] <lophyte> for the most part, I'd like to encourage everyone to try and start a subgroup in their area..
[11:01] <lophyte> its incredibly rewarding to meet with other Ubuntu users and do advocacy projects together
[11:01] <lophyte> it doesn't take too much time to start one.. choose a location, a date, and a time, and post it everywhere you can think of
[11:02] <ReK_> btw: ubuntuforums.com uses vbulletin, and i can find no mailing list plugin for it, so we would have to do it through rss
[11:02] <lophyte> noted
[11:02] <jamonation> failing that, or lacking critical mass, how about integrating with a local LUG?
[11:02] <Fujitsu> ReK_: ubuntuforums used to have a mail gateway set up to a number of Ubuntu lists.
[11:02] <lophyte> that works as well
[11:03] <ReK_> did they change forum software recently?
[11:03] <lophyte> if you feel you don't have the time or energy to start up a local subgroup, talk with your local LUG to set up an Ubuntu special interest group
[11:03] <Fujitsu> No.
[11:04] <lophyte> is anyone here interested in starting a local subgroup in their city or town?
[11:04] <ReK_> im interested in joining one in vancouver, and id help out, but i dont think i can take the full load until summer at least :(
[11:05] <jamonation> do you go to vanlug meets?
[11:05] <ReK_> im heading to the next one, havent gone before though
[11:06] <jamonation> they'll likely be pretty technical
[11:06] <ReK_> that fine
[11:06] <jamonation> but you could start by posting on upcoming.org and various places that you'd like to meet other ubuntu users at the meeting?
[11:06] <lophyte> craigslist works too
[11:06] <jamonation> yeah
[11:06] <ReK_> hmm, true
[11:06] <lophyte> or even on the ubuntu-ca mailing list
[11:07] <lophyte> just a post that says "would anyone like to meet?"
[11:07] <jamonation> as a start at least, maybe someone there would help out
[11:07] <despot32> at the next KWLUG someone's going to be giving a presentation on using drupal. i might attend, if only to be a smartass. lol
[11:07] <lophyte> lol
[11:07] <lophyte> despot32: you should start an ubuntu-kw ;)
[11:07] <despot32> where would i get members?
[11:08] <lophyte> uh
[11:08] <lophyte> U of W?
[11:08] <jamonation> another good spot for starting a sub group would be local college and university campuses
[11:08] <despot32> it's very rarely that i run into someone who uses linux let alone ubuntu
[11:08] <ReK_> Fujitsu: "There was once an add-on at vBulletin.org but I believe it was abandoned."
[11:08] <lophyte> despot32: I bet if you posted on the mailing list, you'd find some folks
[11:08] <Fujitsu> ReK_: Ah, terrific.
[11:08] <despot32> Microsoft's hands are heavily in the CS programs so they're all very Windows-centric
[11:09] <despot32> what mailing list? lol
[11:09] <lophyte><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:09] <despot32> ah
[11:09] <jamonation> not engineering and physics dept's
[11:09] <lophyte> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ca
[11:09] <despot32> most people i talk to infer that since i use linux i must be homosexual
[11:09] <jamonation> plus most campus SACs would give free meeting space
[11:10] <darkenergy> jeez
[11:10] <lophyte> despot32: perhaps post on the KWLUG mailing list that you'd like to start an Ubuntu group? that might work as well.
[11:10] <despot32> that might
[11:10] <despot32> i think i will go to a kwlug meeting first though and see what the community is like
[11:11] <jamonation> anyone else want to start a local chapter?
[11:11] <despot32> oh hey, your friend Evan is doing the demo.
[11:11] <lophyte> LOL
[11:11] <lophyte> really?
[11:11] <jamonation> roadtrip!
[11:11] <despot32> yes
[11:11] <lophyte> jamonation: let's do a roadtrip to KW ;)
[11:11] <jamonation> yeah, exactly
[11:11] <lophyte> though I invited Evan to the next toronto meeting
[11:12] <jamonation> that's inter-SIG awareness for you
[11:12] <lophyte> despot32: you might find that the KWLUG is extremely techincal.. TLUG is like that
[11:12] <lophyte> technical, rather
[11:14] <lophyte> I think that's it for today
[11:14] <despot32> the latest legit post on their online forums was almost 4 months ago
[11:14] <lophyte> hah
[11:15] <lophyte> perhaps the mailing list is more active
[11:15] <lophyte> anyway.. let's wrap it up
[11:15] <lophyte> anyone have any questions or comments?
[11:15] <darkenergy> Dave, are you going to talk to Corey and Brian about CmS and what is available from Canonical?
[11:16] <darkenergy> and how does that get moved forward?
[11:16] <lophyte> yup, I will
[11:16] <despot32> if they will give you php and mysql databases, you should be good to go
[11:16] <lophyte> I'll post the meeting notes to the mailing list, and I'm sure a discussion about it will continue from there
[11:16] <jamonation> don't forget to put them on the wiki too
[11:16] <lophyte> that too
[11:17] <darkenergy> k
[11:17] <lophyte> we're going to make these meetings monthly
[11:17] <lophyte> so we should be meeting again in a months time :)
[11:17] <jamonation> put it on the fridge then
[11:17] <ReK_> heh, theres another feature for the site: a google calander
[11:17] <lophyte> the meetings? they are
[11:17] <jamonation> oh good
[11:18] <lophyte> well thats it for today then.. if anyone would like to stick around and discuss, you're welcome to hop into #ubuntu-ca
[11:18] <jamonation> later then
[11:18] <despot32> im out biatchs
[11:18] <lophyte> thanks to everyone who showed up
[11:18] <lophyte> and have a good da
[11:19] <lophyte> +y
[11:19] <darkenergy> ciao
[11:19] <lophyte> see ya :)


[07:02] <newhoa[m]> bluesabre: Thanks for checking on that issue and the tagging I appreciate it. I added the chromium browser to it as well since I realized that is also now a snap and has the same issue. Hope I did it right, I am unfortunately not really familiar with launchpad.
[07:04] <newhoa[m]> If adding chromium was not the right thing to do let me know and I can remove it. Not sure if it can be addressed by the individual snap package or needs to be addressed at the snapd level.


[00:21] <Caesar> Keybuk: in an Upstart world, what's most appropriate for something like Puppet to use to manipulate services?
[00:21] <Caesar> service, or invoke-rc.d?
[00:22] <ion> start for starting, stop for stopping, status for querying status.
[00:23] <ion> Or alternatively initctl start, initctl stop, initctl status (which do the same thing).
[00:24] <Caesar> ion: that won't help for a system that has hybrid Upstart and legacy init scripts
[00:24] <Caesar> But yes, for a fully Upstart world, I can see that being the case
[00:26] <Caesar> Oh nice, they seem to work with non-upstart jobs as well
[01:23] <Keybuk> http://news.opensuse.org/2010/03/25/opensuse-11-3-milestone-4-release/
[01:30]  * Keybuk laughs at libnih on OBS
[01:30] <Keybuk> "It duplicates much of glib for no (really) good reason."
[01:30] <Keybuk> that's, seriously, the package description
[01:45] <ion> Haha
[03:09] <sadmac2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobject
[03:09] <sadmac2> ^^ I love it when wikipedians find subtle ways to inject their opinion (see image)
[03:09] <ion> Hehe
[18:56] <corecode_> hey
[18:57] <corecode_> i'm wondering what the correct way is to start upstart jobs from a debian postinst hook
[18:57] <corecode_> i'm using "start mytask", but that hangs
[18:58] <ion> Let dh_installinit handle it.
[18:58] <corecode_> i'm on maemo, there is no dh_installinit that can deal with upstart
[18:59] <corecode_> at least as far as i can tell
[18:59] <ion> I’d suggest cherrypicking the change from Ubuntu.
[18:59] <corecode_> not really under my control :/
[19:00] <ion> Patches attached to bug trackers tend to be effective.
[19:01] <corecode_> i wouldn't even know where to look
[19:01] <corecode_> so, until such a change is in place, how would i start an upstart job?
[19:06] <ion> Ubuntu’s installinit adds ‘start JOB || :’ to postinst. The hang you’re encountering needs to be debugged, though. Probably an issue with some ‘start on’ relation blocking.
[19:09] <corecode_> oh meh.  there is a "dh_installupstart" which is undocumented
[19:11] <corecode_> i just have "start on startup"
[19:15] <ion> And there’s no other job that has e.g. ‘start on starting YOURJOB and SOMETHINGELSE’?
[19:15] <corecode_> no
[19:15] <corecode_> i think it also got started
[19:15] <corecode_> just start never returned
[19:23] <corecode_> very strange.
[19:24] <corecode_> start is running
[19:41] <corecode_> so, it will start it
[19:41] <corecode_> just it won't return


 Hey guys my online accounts is not working. … The Google drive sync
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 Can you login to google drive or gmail from a web browser ?
 @Bentota, Online accounts makes it very produy for me. … It sits in the file manager does makes moving things around easier
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[12:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
 @Bentota, It is
[14:30] <user|41535> Is it possible to assign different shortcuts for each language keyboard in Kubuntu similar to what is possible in Windows?
[14:31] <user|41535> The following post explains what I mean. Though the post is about Mint, but well, if another Linux distribution is capable of this option, then I guess I will move to it.
[14:31] <user|41535> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/638605/how-to-assign-ctrl-number-for-changing-to-a-specific-language-layout-in-linux
[17:33] <user_20213> Hi, I read that Kubuntu is driven by community, does it mean Canonical won't check the publish on Ubuntu repositories?
[17:34] <user_20213> Because Kubuntu still uses Ubuntu repos
[17:34] <user_20213> I'm wonder about the relation and security between them
[17:46] <tomreyn> user_20213: hi. kubuntu is an official ubuntu flavour, driven by an active community. all official ubuntu flavours build on the packages in the "main" apt repositoriy which Canonical manages for ubuntu, and the security team ensures security patches for.
[17:48] <tomreyn> packages which are not in 'main', which usually means flavour specific packages such as the kubuntu graphical desktop, may not receive patches from the ubuntu security team, but the kubuntu community (or other communities, depending on the package).
[17:51] <tomreyn> See also "What software is supported by the Ubuntu Security team?" at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Standard_Support
[17:58] <tomreyn> factually, though, the Ubuntu Security Team does not rarely fix security issues present in the 'universe' compoent, and in kubuntu / KDE specific packages, too
[17:59] <user_20213> tomreyn: thanks
[18:00] <user_20213> so will security team audit the KDE? not fixing, just auditing for any virus...
[18:00] <user_20213> sorry, security problems
[18:01] <tomreyn> i wouldn'T expect them to audit kde packages, but you'd better ask this in #ubuntu-hardened
[18:01] <user_20213> Thanks, I'll do
[18:44] <viewer|0> hello... have version 20.10, trying to screen share, cant find in settings menu
[18:44] <viewer|0> does anyone know how it can be done?
[19:35] <u0_a125> hey
[19:35] <u0_a125> I'm on my phone
[20:10] <pirate> hello
[20:11] <tomreyn> rimd2r: you're using a very outdated irc proxy software there, i would recommend upgrading to something recent and supported. consider znc, for example.
[20:12] <tomreyn> hi pirate, do you have any kubuntu questions?
[20:12] <pirate> is it possible to get the latest kde version on kubuntu?
[20:13] <pirate> the backports thing only updates to 5.19
[20:15] <tomreyn> !latest | pirate
[20:15] <tomreyn> this also applies to Kubuntu
[20:17] <tomreyn> i.e. if you want something newer than what you have, either use backports,, or upgrade to a newer kubuntu release - but this may not provide the very, very latest also. which, to me, is a feature.
[20:19] <pirate> originally i was an ubuntu user then i installed the kubuntu-desktop package to try kde because gnome was getting really boring, so would it be any difference if i installed the package kde-full? will it be the up to date kde or still 5.19?
[20:20] <tomreyn> it wont change the version
[20:21] <pirate> thank you for clearing that out, tomreyn
[20:23] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[20:26] <pirate> another question, does kde 5.18.5 or 5.19 support wayland? or is it only on the newer versions?
[21:24] <mparillo> I would not try wayland at all on 5.18 or 19. If you do not have Nvidia, you can probably put up with the little things on 5.21