[17:14] <ikonia> robbie: ok, so at the moment there is no "fix" for it, it looks like a fix will be released
[17:14] <dee_> I already have a flashdrive ready, I just want to backup my home folder first
[17:14] <ikonia> robbie: so sit tight and wait for the fix to be pushed out
[17:14] <sima> I wonder. Will my 8600GT continue to work if I upgrade from (X)Ubuntu 13.10 64bit to 14.04 LTS?  I actually read that before coming here but it is nice to see t again. Notice that that problem is for raids? in the thread there, someone suggests changing <dump> and <pass> for raid partitions to 0 1 from 0 0 ... and another thread suggest that it worked for them. But I don't have any raid
[17:16] <ikonia> robbie: it's not just raid
[17:17] <ikonia> robbie: tht's why I keep saying there are "many" bug reports for it
[17:17] <ikonia> rather than just one that suggests just one situation
[17:17] <SRI_nazi> hey if i create a seprate partion for home dir in my ubuntu system will it automatically mount at the startup
[17:17] <Jordan_U> robbie: Do you use LVM or btrfs?
[17:17] <robbie> ikonia: the bug report Joran_U gave me was a problem specific to raids
[17:17] <robbie> Jordan_U: LVM
[17:17] <Jordan_U> robbie: That is the issue then.
[17:18] <ikonia> robbie: this is why I didn't link you to 1 bug - and keep saying "there are MULTIPLE" bugs for it
[17:18] <ikonia> robbie: because there are various situations that can trigger it
[17:18] <NF19> having install  issues with ubuntu - can install from dvd but on reboot get verifying DMI pool data failure insert system disc
[17:18] <alaing> I'm running ubuntu server on a spare machine at home
[17:19] <robbie> Jordan_U: okay. looking at comment #5 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1274320/comments/5 ¥ do you think that this might work for LVM as well as raids ¥ like changing UUID entries that way?
[17:19] <NF19> I just inserted a windows 7 disc and it launced ubuntu
[17:19] <alaing> i'm having problems with permission with a CMS that I'm using
[17:19] <suore> Hi
[17:19] <NF19> primary bios boot device is the HDD
[17:19] <suore> i have preoblem with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:19] <NF19> any pointers?
[17:19] <alaing> I know my apache server is using user www-data and user group www-data
[17:19] <suore> i have blur effect
[17:19] <suore> ..
[17:19] <NightTrojan> @suore Welcome
[17:19] <alaing> I've just noticed that my /var/www is displaying my username for both owner and group
[17:19] <robbie> Jordan_U: there is another page elsewhere where someone points out that the solution in comment#5 worked for them. thats why I ask
[17:19] <alaing> is this correct?
[17:19] <gareppa> yeah, uppgrading messed up my apache installation too, i'll have to figure it out...
[17:19] <alaing> shouldn't it be www-data?
[17:20] <ikonia> alaing: change it
[17:20] <Jordan_U> robbie: I don't see how that could have an effect either way.
[17:20] <alaing> I've noticed the /var/www/ files and folders mainly have my username:group and some have root:root
[17:20] <suore> i have global blur  effect i usualy all is not readable i uplaoding video
[17:20] <alaing> drwxrwxrwx+ 20 thelaings thelaings  4096 Apr 18 20:50 www
[17:20] <Jordan_U> robbie: Do you realize that the error message doesn't actually prevent booting?
[17:20] <suore> i hope its recorded corectly
[17:21] <robbie> Jordan_U: yeah. Honestly I dont use Linux much anymore, Im doing this for my dad. He sees the error message and wants it fixed.
[17:22] <suore> and i have 2 times nvidia-settings xD
[17:22] <NightTrojan> @suore you don't think it's because you have 2 settings for Nvidia do you?
[17:23] <dee_> I'm booted off of a Ubuntu flashdrive right now and I'm trying to copy the home directory of my broken Ubuntu install. When I copy and paste is says "permission denied!"
[17:23] <OerHeks> dee copy to where ?
[17:23] <NightTrojan> @dee_ don't copy it then?
[17:23] <suore> NightTrojan, nope at dashboard i have 2x NVIDIA X Server Settings
[17:23] <OerHeks> dee_, we need more information to give any answer
[17:23] <dee_> @OerHeks to my other HDD that I have Windows installed on
[17:23] <Jordan_U> robbie: If you add the following to /boot/grub/custom.cfg (create it if it doesn't already exist) it should "disable" recordfail and stop the error, but this is entirely untested: function recordfail { true; } #Suggested as a work around by Jordan_U in #ubuntu, remove once the bug is properly fixed.
[17:23] <suore> but only 1x its installl nvidia-settings -.-
[17:24] <dee_> @OerHeks what other information
[17:24] <NightTrojan> @suore I recommend reinstalling
[17:24] <suore> NightTrojan, reinstalling of what?
[17:24] <NF19> think I've found my problem boot repair says that  'The boot files of [The OS now in use - Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them.' how would I resolve this?
[17:24] <OerHeks> dee_, doe you see files in your windows partition? is it encrypted ?
[17:24] <NF19> I'm booted into ubuntu now
[17:25] <robbie> Jordan_U: that is condensing Quesar's idea right? I was just looking at that. thank you
[17:26] <suore> what about bluring after install of nvidia drivers?
[17:26] <ikonia> robbie: your best option is to just wait for a fix to be pushed out
[17:26] <Beldar> NF19, Post a link from the bootinfo summary generated by using the bootrepair app.
[17:26] <Discordian_> So Ubuntu 14.04 didn't recognize my A10 APU so after installation it went to low-graphics mode and I wasn't able to pick options or chose anything, the solution was to go to the terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) and install fglrx
[17:26] <dee_> OerHeks, neither partition is encypted. From what I read the /home folder has a special permission of 000 but don't know how to get past that
[17:26] <NF19> Beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7285477/
[17:26] <ikonia> robbie: you may end up doing damage putting work arounds in
[17:27] <Jordan_U> robbie: Someone else may have had the idea also. I haven't looked at the bug report recently and came up with this fix on my own. The nicw thing about it is that (unlike modifying anything in /etc/grub.d/) it shouldn't cause any problems with upgrades.
[17:27] <NightTrojan> @suore drivers!
[17:28] <Beldar> NF19, Is the sda HD the first read in the bios?
[17:28] <NF19> yeah
[17:28] <robbie> ikonia, Jordan_U: thank you both
[17:28] <OerHeks> dee_, dont copy your /home/* but  cd /home/<username>/ and copy *
[17:28] <NF19> even when I try F12 to bring up primary boot menu and select sda drive it still doesn't work - only way to boot in seems to be to put any disc in the usb disc drive I have
[17:29] <NF19> however I'm wanting to move this PC back into the cupboard (away from monitors - managed via rdp) once setup so this won't be possible
[17:29] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | NF19
[17:30] <OerHeks> NF19 my bios has 2 entrys to set when i want to boot, hdd order and bootdevice, check hdd order
[17:30] <NF19> HDD order also good
[17:30] <Beldar> Jordan_U, here is nf19's boot info, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7285477/
[17:30] <NF19> the drive I want is the first in there - I'll check out boot info
[17:30] <dee_> OerHeks, I get "omitting directory ‘/media/xubuntu/792f6b37-35dc-44ba-af56-da31fbb82871/home/’"
[17:31] <OerHeks> dee_, that looks like your iso, not writable
[17:31] <kristenbb> which package is in charge of the placement of the window controls (minimize, maximize, close...) ?
[17:32] <dee_> OekHeks, thats where my flashdrive mounted the HDD with the broken Linux build on it
[17:34] <dee_> OekHeks, I typed " omitting directory ‘/media/xubuntu/792f6b37-35dc-44ba-af56-da31fbb82871/home/’ "
[17:34] <NF19> by the looks on it I think I need to seperate out my boot partition - this means nothing to me though
[17:34] <dee_> OekHeks "cp /media/xubuntu/792f6b37-35dc-44ba-af56-da31fbb82871/home/dee /media/xubuntu/COMPAQ/Backup" *
[17:34] <NF19> message from boot repair (The boot files of [The OS now in use - Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them. You may want to retry after creating a /boot partition (EXT4, >200MB, start of the disk). This can be performed via tools such as gParted. Then select this partition via the [Separate /boot partition:] option of [Boot Repair]. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition))
[17:35] <Jordan_U> NF19: That actually doesn't seem like it would help to me, at least with the symptoms you've described.
[17:36] <ovrflw0x> how can I get "ubuntu 14.04" like "exact" font redering under 'Arch Linux'? in browsers in thunderbird etc etc
[17:36] <NF19> right, any other things you think I should try? All this was caused by a power outage yesterday (have tested all HDD's in another PC) decided to clean install as I've been having some issues with certain packages wanted to tidy upo a bit :(
[17:36] <NF19> been trying to figure this out since this morning
[17:37] <mastercaster> hi, I installed eclipse
[17:37] <excalibr> what's with the grub screen in 14.04? i see black background with small purple screen in the front of it
[17:38] <suore> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5wek1typ31xiv1o/212.mkv download video - bluring problem :(
[17:38] <suore> how o repair
[17:39] <Jordan_U> NF19: Which of your drives are internal?
[17:40] <NF19> all
[17:40] <dee_> OekHek, nevermind the installer allowed me to keep my personal files so I don't have to worry about that
[17:40] <NF19> so SDA. SDB. SDC
[17:40] <mastercaster> hi, I installed eclipse  on ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i dont know how to update it. if i start it normally I dont have rights to update and if I start it as root I cannot update. Also I can only install the Android Dev Kit as root (obviously) but then if i start eclipse as a  normal user, I cannot start the android dev perspective. Can someone advise me please how this is supposed to work out?
[17:40] <NF19> only usb-cd drive is external
[17:41] <Jordan_U> NF19: I wonder if your BIOS is simply not waiting long enough for your drives to spin up.
[17:41] <NF19> off to go eat - I'll pick up any responses shortly.
[17:41] <NF19> BIOS detects the drives does an IDE scan and shows the 3
[17:42] <tonesfrommars> Hi all, trying to upgrade from 12LTS to 14LTS, got 'could not calculate upgrade' error. Found this is in dist.upgrade/main.log: 2014-04-19 10:32:31,775 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' Any tips on how to proceed?
[17:43] <Beldar> tonesfrommars, The lts upgrade is in july to start with.
[17:43] <dcmg> hey how can i change the key mapping of my keyboard temporarily ?
[17:44] <tonesfrommars> haha, ok. thnx Beldar
[17:44] <dcmg> we not keymapping, i need to make a German umlaut
[17:44] <dcmg> well *
[17:44] <nikomo> Anyone here have any personal all-in-one device recommendations that work great in Ubuntu? I know HP has good support, but specific recommendations would be great. The printer part also needs to be laser, not inkjet.
[17:45] <nikomo> I'm moving my parents to Ubuntu on their secondary computer
[17:45] <xangua> !printer | nikomo
[17:45] <nikomo> Aware of that, but personal recommendations always trump catch-all wiki pages, if anyone has recommendations.
[17:46] <Chuo> !paste
[17:46] <one23> Is it hard to cleani
[17:47] <cha0z> hello, does the upgrade to 14.04 will affect my full encrypted ubuntu setup?
[17:47] <one23> Is it hard to clean up after Playonlinux?
[17:48] <Chuo> Hey guys I installes gksu to open nautilus as sudo but it gives me an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7285625/ and no idea why the output says dropbox
[17:48] <Tuplad> about to do a clean install, only saving /home and /media ... running ubuntu 12 LTS, is there anything I should backup in / ?
[17:48] <sevauk2> test
[17:48] <DX099> hello, has anyone encountered nm-connection-editor bug where it SIGSEGV whenever you try to import an openvpn config file ?
[17:51] <basketball> how do you uninstall a program from terminal
[17:51] <basketball> never mind
[17:51] <deekej> sudo apt-get remove <program-name>
[17:52] <Judas-> how do I tell which version of ubuntu I'm running from a terminal?
[17:52] <gustavo> Hi
[17:52] <gustavo> Hi
[17:52] <DX099> Judas-, lsb_release -rd
[17:53] <basketball> Judas-,  lsb_release -a
[17:53] <j4son> Judas-: cat /etc/lsb-release
[17:53] <j4son> also works
[17:53] <Judas-> ah, natty - thanks :)
[17:53] <gustavo> Hi, I just installed Xubuntu 14.04
[17:53] <rbf> exit
[17:54] <deekej> personally, I'm using: cat /etc/*-release
[17:54] <ndandut> hello sir , can i question?
[17:54] <Fetentone> #ubuntu-it-chat
[17:54] <rbf> quit
[17:55] <kdsebastian> hi guys
[17:55] <kdsebastian> i need help
[17:56] <ndandut> my notebook processor suport 64 bit , but my ram just 2gb. then when i download ubuntu chose 64bit or 32 bit?
[17:56] <fenomen> pizdec kakoj-to
[17:56] <fenomen> russians here?
[17:56] <Judas-> ndandut: I would pick 64 bit
[17:56] <kdsebastian> did anybody tried to install bootrepair by yannubuntu ppa
[17:56] <luca> hello
[17:57] <ndandut> Judas-: my processor amd c-60 , then chose 64bit sir?
[17:58] <Beldar> kdsebastian, Many have what is the issue?
[17:58] <Judas-> ndandut: correct - you should only pick 32 bit if your processor doesn't support it or that you need 32 bit for some compatibility software reason
[17:58] <kdsebastian> i did try to install it using terminal on my freshly installed ubuntu 14.04 but error showing unable to find the app
[17:58] <Beldar> kdsebastian, Did you add the ppa, run a update than try to install?
[17:59] <Beldar> kdsebastian, Notice when I speak to you I start with your nick, nicks can be tab completed.
[17:59] <xangua> kdsebastian: the repositody you mention doesn't have packages candidates for 14.04 https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair
[17:59] <ndandut> Judas-: many thanks sir
[17:59] <ndandut> Judas-: im wrong download 32 bit :(
[18:00] <NF19> Hi, I'm back
[18:01] <NF19> Jordan_U: Not sure whatelse to try beyond what boot repair recommended?
[18:02] <Jordan_U> NF19: Can you be at a grub shell and on IRC at the same time (with another machine)?
[18:03] <NF19> nope - I'm using the ethernet/monitor cable from my other PC
[18:04] <kristenbb> which package is in charge of the placement of the window controls (minimize, maximize, close...) ?
[18:05] <popcan> hey can i get some help with my xubuntu desktop environment locking me out of my ubuntu
[18:05] <sixwheeledbeast> hmm, on a similar topic. how can I move minimise/maximise/close? seems apps/metacity is missing in gconf-editor
[18:07] <Jordan_U> NF19: Does just having the external CD drive plugged in with a CD allow Ubuntu to boot, or do you actually need to tell the BIOS to try to boot from CD?
[18:08] <os_> osiù
[18:08] <popcan> i installed xubuntu desktop environment from ubuntu and switched to the xubuntu desktop environment but when i installed ubuntu i set it to auto log in so when i try to swich back to ubuntu it goes strait back to xubuntu
[18:08] <wolfslord_> I was trying to upgrade from Saucy to Trusty and power went out. Now I can't access the release upgrade tool. How shoul I proceed?
[18:08] <NF19> Jordan_U: with  a CD in it seems to allow ubuntu to boot
[18:08] <Beldar> popcan, The channel help is based in a detailed description of the issue.
[18:08] <minimec> sixwheeledbeast: Happy to see that it works now. ;)
[18:08] <NF19> without instruction
[18:09] <Jordan_U> NF19: Is the CD drive first in the boot order?
[18:09] <NF19> nope
[18:10] <NF19> choice of 3 devices all set to HDD
[18:10] <NF19> HDD 1 is SDA drive
[18:10] <kristenbb> which package is in charge of the placement of the window controls (minimize, maximize, close...) ?
[18:10] <xangua> wolfslord_: I would backup and reinstall
[18:10] <Beldar> kristenbb, what release is this?
[18:10] <kristenbb> Beldar: 14.04
[18:11] <vandorius> anyone knows if ubuntu one is installed in ubuntu studio 14,04?
[18:11] <Jordan_U> Vampire0: Ubuntu One is being discontinued.
[18:11] <wolfslord_> xangua: How can I backup? Never did it.
[18:11] <Vampire0> Jordan_U, so?
[18:13] <kristenbb> Beldar: how does it relate to my question ?
[18:14] <popcan>  i installed xubuntu desktop environment from ubuntu and switched to the xubuntu desktop environment but when i installed ubuntu i set it to auto log in so when i try to swich back to ubuntu it goes strait back to xubuntu
[18:14] <Beldar> kristenbb, dconf-editor I believe I can't find exactly where, we have seen a bug here in changing form left to right the buttons.
[18:14] <kristenbb> Beldar: yes, I filed in a bug, but I am asked what package it belongs to
[18:14] <Beldar> popcan, auto login goes to the last desktop run.
[18:14] <k1l_> kristenbb: file it against unity-tweak-tool if that setting in that tool does not work
[18:15] <kristenbb> Beldar: will it get less attention though ?
[18:15] <lalalala> ?
[18:15] <kristenbb> Beldar: sorry, wrong person
[18:15] <Beldar> heh cool.
[18:15] <kristenbb> k1l_: will it get less attention though ?
[18:15] <NF19> Jordan_U: I'm going to give the boot repair recommendation a try as I can't find anything else to try. If it fails I'll pop back on in a bit.
[18:15] <popcan> beldar it goes strait to xubuntu i want to go back to ubuntu
[18:16] <jcstarken> good morning I can not add a repository in software manager +add button is not clickable
[18:16] <k1l_> kristenbb: its not about attention. this is not a casting show. file the bug to that package which didnt act right
[18:16] <Beldar> popcan, turn of auto log, boot to ubuntu and turn it on.
[18:16] <k1l_> kristenbb: if the unity-tweak-tool developer fixes the setting you are fine, or?
[18:17] <phao> I've installed bunblebee. How do I check which drivers are active?
[18:17] <popcan> beldar how do i turn off auto login from xubuntu
[18:17] <kristenbb> k1l_: yes sure, but if the developer of that tool just has a GUI interface, it's not his fault if the underlying mechanism doesn't work
[18:17] <Beldar> popcan, How, and in what desktop did you turn it on?
[18:17] <popcan> ubuntu
[18:17] <k1l_> kristenbb: then he will tell that in the bug system and will redirect it
[18:18] <popcan> beldar when i installed ubuntu it asked me if i wanted to auto login instead of password
[18:18] <kristenbb> ok
[18:18] <popcan> beldar thats when i made it auto log in
[18:20] <Beldar> popcan, Not sure here, be really careful as to the info you post, your second post reads the opposite of what you say now, as the autolog started in ubuntu.
[18:21] <fballem> good afternoon all.
[18:21] <leuApodo2> hi
[18:21] <leuApodo2> anyone there?
[18:21] <fballem> yup
[18:21] <leurian> yes im here
[18:22] <popcan> beldar i said that i turned ON auto log in from ubuntu BUT i switched to xubuntu desktop environment , sooo now when i try to go back to ubuntu it auto logs me into xubuntu
[18:24] <Beldar> popcan, I can't help you, in the end.
[18:24] <Beldar> someone will though who can
[18:25] <popcan> can someone help me switch to ubuntu desktop environment isntead of xubuntu desktop environment
[18:25] <jcstarken> if you have them both installed you can pick the one you want when you login
[18:26] <popcan> it wont let me
[18:26] <jcstarken> do you have it to auto login
[18:26] <popcan> jcstarken there is a login username called other that lets me switch to ubuntu but my password is supposedly wrong for that one
[18:27] <popcan> jcstarken yes i do have it on auto login
[18:27] <fballem> jcstarken - I read earlier in the thread that popcan did enable auto-login
[18:28] <Beldar> autolgin defaults to the last desktop run, it wont go to ubuntu from xubuntu simple problem
[18:28] <jcstarken> well will have to go into the accounts with admin rights and change  the login in option
[18:28] <Beldar> or xubuntu to ubuntu,
[18:29] <popcan> how do i getr admin rights
[18:29] <popcan> ?
[18:29] <StephenS> sudo ...
[18:29] <StephenS> or su -
[18:29] <StephenS> you need to have perms in sudoers though popcan
[18:30] <jcstarken> if you are doing it from gui then you just have to know the admin password
[18:30] <k1l_> StephenS: no, not su
[18:30] <k1l_> popcan: where do you need admin rights?
[18:30] <popcan> shouldnt i have made the admin password or is it a default password
[18:30] <fballem> Applications->System->Users and Groups
[18:30] <Beldar> popcan, Logout of xubuntu, log into ubuntu, open users, unlock the lock top right and turn off the autologin.
[18:30] <StephenS> if he wants root then yes su
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> popcan  your password doesnt change with the DE
[18:31] <k1l_> popcan: your user already got admin rights
[18:31] <popcan> beldar you are not helping at all please understand the problem first
[18:31] <deekej> if you need to run program under elevated privileges, which has GUI, you can launch it with: gksudo <program-name>
[18:31] <xMopxShell> hey, how would i install a driver for a nvidia 9000 series video card?
[18:31] <k1l_> !sudo | StephenS
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> popcan  logout, switch, login
[18:31] <StephenS> ...
[18:31] <k1l_> StephenS: there is no root on ubuntu. EOD
[18:31] <popcan> monkeydust it wont let me log in to the one that lets me switch it
[18:31] <popcan> it says the password is incorrect
[18:31] <fballem> everyone - there is a gui option within Xubuntu that popcan can use.
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> popcan  what happens when you try?
[18:32] <jcstarken> that is what I was trying to tell him
[18:32] <k1l_> popcan: the password for the nickname is the same on all desktops on on machine
[18:32] <deekej> no root on ubuntu??? o.O
[18:32] <fballem> popcan - couple of questions, if I may
[18:32] <StephenS> k1l_: as user there is no root, but you can gain root perms with sudo
[18:32] <popcan> k1l_ it says otherwise
[18:32] <k1l_> deekej: its login is disabled.
[18:32] <fballem> 1/ You setup Ubuntu first, correct?
[18:32] <popcan> correct
[18:32] <StephenS> and you can sudo into another uses by su - username, and if username is in sudoers with perms: ALL then thats basically user with root perms.
[18:32] <k1l_> StephenS: yes. but please read about sudo. you gave false commands.
[18:33] <fballem> 2/ You know the password that you used when you first setup Ubuntu, correct?
[18:33] <tex83> Recommend a bitcoin miner?
[18:33] <tex83> program, tha tis
[18:33] <popcan> correct
[18:33] <popcan> i know the password
[18:33] <deekej> k1l_: ah, i see (I'm not using pure ubuntu, therefore I didn't know...)
[18:33] <fballem> 3/ You are currently logged into Xubuntu, correct?
[18:33] <popcan> correct
[18:34] <fballem> 4/ Can you locate the following: Applications->System->Users and Groups in the menus.
[18:34] <mjs86> hi, anyone else unable to launch steam on 14.04?
[18:35] <popcan> fballem i casnt find applications but when i find system there is no users
[18:36] <fballem> popcan, Xubuntu has menu options on the top panel - one of the options is Applications.
[18:36] <Beldar> !anyone > mjs86
[18:36] <Beldar> !ask > mjs86
[18:36] <popcan> fballem yes im there
[18:36] <fballem> if you select Applications, you will have another menu - that menu will include System
[18:36] <leuApodo2> hi
[18:37] <fballem> if you select System, you will have another set of options, including Users and Groups.
[18:37] <fballem> select Users and Groups, and you should have a list of users, including yourself.
[18:37] <fballem> please let me know if that is correct.
[18:37] <leurian> how are you?
[18:37] <popcan> all i see after that is task manager and cpu usage ect
[18:38] <fballem> popcan, are you setup on launchpad?
[18:38] <popcan> no
[18:38] <popcan> this is just a desktop environment
[18:38] <sevauk2> test
[18:38] <fballem> do you have a web browser?
[18:39] <popcan> yes
[18:39] <Janusz> Hello. How can I update 14.04 to 14.10?
[18:39] <popcan> i downloaded chromium
[18:39] <Beldar> Janusz, There is not a 14.10
[18:39] <fballem> go to launchpad.net and register. When you have done that, send me a private message in launchpad (my username is the same there as it is here)
[18:39] <Janusz> Beldar, but I would like to test pre-release
[18:40] <fballem> launchpad.net is one of the support channels for ubuntu.
[18:40] <fballem> Janusz - looking to break stuff again?
[18:40] <Beldar> Janusz, you have 6 months to do that.
[18:41] <Janusz> fballem, when there will be an option to test 14.10?
[18:41] <fballem> when they build it. I think if you are on the daily build, you will get it when it's done. I think they usually wait about a week or two before switching versions.
[18:42] <xangua> Janusz: ubuntu 14.04 just cam out, calm down
[18:42] <Janusz> xangua, in past there was an option to test even very early build of upcoming release
[18:43] <minimec> Janusz: I think they take a 2 weeks break before they merge the debian experimental branch and start over again.
[18:43] <fballem> popcorn, are you still there.
[18:43] <popcan> yes
[18:43] <popcan> im logged into launchpad
[18:43] <popcan> were do i go now
[18:44] <Janusz> minimec, So, You think that in beginning of May there may be an option to test 14.10, or it will take place later?
[18:44] <popcan> fballem
[18:44] <fballem> yes
[18:44] <popcan> ^^^^^
[18:44] <fballem> sorry, my launchpad name is flavelle.ballem
[18:44] <OerHeks> Janusz, best thing to do is joining #ubuntu+1, this channel is for next release support
[18:45] <popcan> were do i go to start a privet massage
[18:45] <fballem> there is an option to search for a user. Once you find me, there is an option to contact this user.
[18:45] <fballem> have you registered on launchpad?
[18:45] <Janusz> OerHeks, constructive advice. TU
[18:45] <minimec> Janusz: That is exactly what I think. ;)
[18:46] <phao> I've installed bunblebee. How do I check which drivers are active?
[18:46] <OerHeks> there is no !14.10 factoid yet.
[18:47] <popcan> i sent it fballem
[18:47] <minimec> Janusz: You can always check the release schedule here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule
[18:48] <Janusz> minimec, constructive advice. TU
[18:48] <ztane> how to get the damned trayicons whitelisted on trusty?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> 14.10 does not even have a name yet
[18:49] <popcan> fballem
[18:49] <tieinv> g!0@r#D$oN
[18:50] <gustavo> Hi
[18:50] <gustavo> I have installed Xubuntu 14.04 Trusty Turd
[18:50] <gustavo> And it runs good!!!
[18:51] <Judas-> hmm, I just dist-upgraded a maverick (1865.02) ubuntu all the way up to 12.04 LTS and now it says there are no never versions, but according to topic here there's a 14.04 version too?
[18:51] <xMopxShell> hey guys, i have 3 screens powered by 2 video cards. i can't drag windows from the 2 screens to the third??
[18:54] <minimec> xMopxShell: Are they all visible in the 'Display' GUI? what does xrandr give you as output in a terminal?
[18:54] <gustavo> Hi
[18:54] <gustavo> is any one there???
[18:54] <gareppa> lol
[18:54] <DJones> gustavo: Please use the correct name
[18:54] <chkif> hi
[18:54] <fballem> popcan - check your e-mail.
[18:54] <basketballl> how do i set up google public dns from gui settings
[18:54] <xMopxShell> minimec: display gui or nvidia settings?
[18:55] <Slart> Judas-: yes, there is a 14.04 LTS version out.. not sure why you're not seeing it.. you've updated all the repos and such?
[18:55] <minimec> xMopxShell: In your case nvidia settings, if you use the nvidia restricted driver.
[18:55] <xMopxShell> yeah, theyre all visible. ill get xrandr output..
[18:56] <minimec> xMopxShell: So xrandr wount give you some info either I guess.
[18:56] <xMopxShell> minimec: http://pastebin.com/KmhzGGt2
[18:57] <alberbeltz> hey
[18:57] <alberbeltz> hey¿
[18:57] <jastich> hey
[18:57] <alberbeltz> where are u from?
[18:57] <jastich> Milwaukee, USA
[18:57] <phao> hey... how do I find out if a particular application is running on top of my intel video card or my nvidia video cad?
[18:57] <phao> card*
[18:58] <kupo_> Where to get 14.04 PPA's?
[18:58] <kupo_> Or do trustys still work
[18:58] <ztane> phao: if you have the optimus then most probably intel :P
[18:58] <minimec> xMopxShell: I guess that's the internal GPU of your (probably) Intel i3/5/7 CPU.
[18:58] <donc3> Hi!
[18:58] <kupo_> saucy i mean
[18:59] <donc3> I have installed ubuntu 14.04, a clean installation
[18:59] <xMopxShell> minimec: i have the internal GPU from my CPU disabled via the bios.
[18:59] <donc3> but my usb 3.0 doesn't work on this port. only in the usb 2.0 port
[18:59] <Judas-> slart: I think so - it is hitting de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu according to the sources.list
[18:59] <fballem> Popcorn - are you still here?
[18:59] <donc3> could you help me??
[18:59] <k1l_> kupo_: ask the ppa maintainer to upload 14.04 packages to their ppa
[18:59] <DJones> kupo_: You'#ll get them from the same place you got the earlier release's, but, whoever created the ppa you used may not have got round to making one for 14.04 or may have abandoned their project
[19:00] <kupo_> so eventually they'll  just show up in launchpad most likely?
[19:01] <phao> ztane, lshw shows both drivers...
[19:01] <Slart> Judas-: well.. not sure what to suggest then.. sorry
[19:01] <phao> ztane, how do make an app run with the nvidia card?
[19:01] <Judas-> maybe I should try change precise to whatever 14.04 is called manually
[19:02] <donc3> nobody know about my problem??
[19:02] <k1l_> !ppa | kupo_ see the list there for PPAs
[19:02] <OSaddict> Anyone know of any Linux games with very intense, high-powered 3d graphics?
[19:02] <kupo_> ok. thanks
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> Judas-  sudo do-release-upgrade -d    works, but it takes at least 2 hours and you must stay present to confirm some changes
[19:02] <OSaddict> My friend says Linux is not capable of such things.
[19:02] <xMopxShell> minecraft
[19:02] <xMopxShell> lol
[19:02] <OSaddict> And I want to prove him wrong.
[19:02] <basketball> when i boot my laptop it boots to a black command line that says ttyl
[19:03] <ztane> phao: i had the optimus chipset, it basically never uses nvidia unless you do tricks
[19:03] <minimec> xMopxShell: Ok... Somehow two monitors DVI-I-2 and DVI-I-3 are seen and handled by xrandr, but not the third one.
[19:03] <fballem> 0Saddict - do you use Steam in Windows?
[19:03] <OSaddict> Yes.
[19:03] <liquidee> you can kill your comp with minecraft plus all those texture packs and mods
[19:03] <xMopxShell> minimec: i dont even know what that means :)
[19:03] <OSaddict> Besides minecraft.
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> OSaddict  there's also #ubuntu-steam
[19:03] <xMopxShell> OSaddict: tf2
[19:03] <fballem> many of those games have been ported to Steam in Linux - which does run in Ubuntu.
[19:03] <Slart> OSaddict: there's left 4 dead 2, Metro 2033... not sure what else
[19:03] <liquidee> l4d2
[19:03] <minimec> xMopxShell: They should show up in the 'Display' GUI (not nvidia-settings)
[19:04] <liquidee> do you want to stress test your hardware or what
[19:04] <basketballl> anyone
[19:04] <Judas-> MonkeyDust: ok trying with the -d option then - here goes nothing.. :)
[19:04] <xMopxShell> minimec: i dont think i even have that
[19:04] <Slart> OSaddict: not that I'd call that top of the line graphics.. but still
[19:04] <Slart> OSaddict: or you can run that benchmark.. with the floating islands.. can't remember the name at the moment
[19:04] <OSaddict> Something along the lines of BF4
[19:04] <ooxi> hi how can i change the sidebar in nautilus (14.04) from places to tree like it was possible in 12.04?
[19:04] <fballem> 0Saddict - do a google search for Steam and Linux.
[19:04] <fballem> you will get some more information there.
[19:05] <xMopxShell> minimec: ive got nvidia settings and arandr
[19:05] <liquidee> its heaven benchmark
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> Judas-  let me know if it works for you too
[19:05] <fballem> popcorn
[19:05] <minimec> xMopxShell: Check the system settings... -> gnome-control-center in unity or gnome-shell
[19:05] <donc3> this is what it shows me the output of dmesg | grep usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/7286114/
[19:05] <fballem> are you still here?
[19:05] <liquidee> OSaddict: i dont think you will get something like this working on linux well
[19:05] <xMopxShell> minimec: i have nothing related to unity or gnome.
[19:06] <Slart> OSaddict: this was the benchmark I was looking for http://unigine.com/products/heaven/
[19:06] <Judas-> MonkeyDust: so far it seems to have started the upgrade
[19:07] <minimec> xMopxShell: We are talking about the default system settings gui of a gnome based desktop manager. You should have that. It's installed per default.
[19:07] <OSaddict> I've got a high-powered comp. I just want to demonstrate some intense 3d gaming on Linux.
[19:07] <xMopxShell> minimec: ive removed it to use the LXDE window manager.
[19:07] <fballem> 0Saddict - best to checkout Steam for Linux and go from there.
[19:08] <xMopxShell> arandr "is" the default monitor gui.
[19:08] <Slart> OSaddict: yup, agree with fballem.. go with steam
[19:08] <fballem> 0Saddict - what type of graphics card do you have in your system?
[19:09] <okay19> I just upgraded to 14.04, and it appears that GRUB was broken. I get dropped into the rescue prompt with the message "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found."
[19:10] <leuApodo2> hi
[19:10] <hhh_> when i turn on my laptop it boots to a black terminal that says tty1
[19:10] <kupo_> sudo launchpad-getkeys doesnt work in 14.04 yet it seems.
[19:11] <minimec> xMopxShell: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions#Which_tool_is_used_for_configuring_screen_resolution_in_LXDE.3F
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> !games | OSaddict
[19:11] <minimec> xMopxShell: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXRandr
[19:11] <xMopxShell> minimec: Lxrandr only supports mirroring. which is why i have arandr.
[19:12] <xMopxShell> minimec: which looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/5XQYjO8.png
[19:12] <minimec> xMopxShell: So you configured your xrandr for two screens only and were successfull at least for these two...
[19:14] <xMopxShell> minimec: lxrander lists only the 2 screens that arandr shows as well.
[19:14] <Pushy> hi guys
[19:14] <xMopxShell> minimec: i think the 3rd screen is in a separate x session…?
[19:14] <Pushy> ubuntu on SSD works nice
[19:14] <Pushy> very fast.
[19:14] <Pushy> i got the samsung evo 240GB...fast shlt
[19:14] <phao> Hi. I've installed bumblebee and when I try to "optrun firefox" I get http://pastie.org/9093946 ... any clues on how I fix it? I can post more info of course... but idk what to post. This is ubuntu 14.04
[19:15] <minimec> xMopxShell: You would then have to login seperately to that session
[19:15] <Pushy> hi phao
[19:15] <phao> Pushy, heya
[19:15] <xMopxShell> minimec: thats not an option. it should work as a normal screen.
[19:15] <Pushy> okie
[19:16] <Pushy> hey guys, any improvement on 14.04?
[19:16] <xMopxShell> minimec: i can move my cursor to the other screen. but not windows, and theres not another way to login?
[19:16] <Pushy> i've been updating it but i have no  idea why so
[19:17] <kostkon> Pushy, http://www.techdrivein.com/2014/04/15-ubuntu-1404-lts-new-features-changes.html
[19:17] <leuApodo2> hi
[19:17]  * leuApodo2 jumps
[19:17] <Pushy> kostkon, come on man, all improvement on sound wall paper , background and shlt like that/
[19:18] <Pushy> you got to be kidding me
[19:18] <kostkon> Pushy, don't use it then
[19:18] <Pushy> kostkon, more like the look.
[19:18] <Pushy> hmm
[19:18]  * leuApodo2 everything ok?
[19:18] <okay19> I just upgraded to 14.04, and it appears that GRUB was broken. I get dropped into the rescue prompt with the message "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found."
[19:18] <Pushy> who care about the appearance...so basically nothing really new
[19:18] <hhh_> is there a way to make a live cd where when i install buuntu it automatically installs my apps liek dropbox and gimp runs commands like to add b43 driver
[19:19] <minimec> xMopxShell: Do you have the restricted nvidia driver installed? I you removed that once? Check /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log once to see what driver you use. The opensource driver would be 'nouveau' for a nvidia card.
[19:19] <sharefree> is new linux low on ram
[19:19] <kupo_> there is more new than ou think
[19:19] <kupo_> i don't use unity though. xubuntu master race
[19:19] <Pushy> kostkon, they should improve technical shlt...not just the appearance
[19:19] <xMopxShell> minimec: would nouveau be the one that's enabled by default?
[19:20] <minimec> xMopxShell: for nvidia yes.
[19:20] <xMopxShell> minimec: that one did not allow me to use the 3rd screen entirely.
[19:20] <minimec> xMopxShell: I guess you are using it at leaast for the GPU with the 'working monitors'
[19:21] <kostkon> Pushy, they did, e.g. http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/04/docker-in-ubuntu-ubuntu-in-docker.html
[19:21] <xMopxShell> minimec: if i remove the nvidia restricted driver, the 3d screen doesn't power on.
[19:22] <OSaddict> Alright, Left 4 Dead 2, it is!
[19:22] <leurian> hi all
[19:22] <leurian> leurian how are you?
[19:22] <Judas-> MonkeyDust: "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process"
[19:22] <minimec> xMopxShell: Maybe you have to activate it in arandr.
[19:22] <xMopxShell> minimec: how? it's not listed.
[19:23] <Senza> Hey
[19:23] <OSaddict> I read somewhere that some of the Linux Steam games use a native port of DirectX. Is that true?
[19:23] <leurian> leurian hi all
[19:23] <Senza> Guys, iḿ new to Linux.. Anyone has any tips for me?
[19:23] <volkan> Hey, After restart by brightness level is not the previous value. How can I fix this problem?
[19:23] <kostkon> OSaddict, no. They use opengl
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> Judas-  yes, i guess it's harmless, fonts or so
[19:24] <okay19> Senza: Learn basic terminal commands. You'll get some stuff done faster in the terminal than with a GUI.
[19:24] <Slart> volkan: is this on a laptop?
[19:24] <Senza> Do you have a good website or something to learn the basics? :)
[19:25] <OSaddict> Senza: Don't be afraid of the command line.
[19:25] <MHodge> The command line if your friend. :)
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> Senza  click here and there, see what's where, what it does, how it's called etc
[19:25] <Judas-> MonkeyDust: besides this it seems to be running some form of 14.04 LTS now :)
[19:25] <Judas-> and yes, seemed to be mostly something latex thai stuff and such
[19:25] <okay19> Senza: I don't. But google "linux terminal basics" to find some helpful pages.
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> Judas-  yes, rings a bell ;)
[19:25] <OSaddict> Senza: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html
[19:26] <Senza> Thanks guys, i'm looking forward to my new adventures in Linux
[19:26] <Pushy> how to install .bundle ?
[19:26] <minimec> xMopxShell: So the 2nd GPU is not well supported by randr. Other way would be to run them all with the restricted driver, but I have no experience with two GPU's. I have a dual monitor setup with a Intel i5 internal GPU.
[19:26] <Pushy> with commandline ?
[19:26] <bekks> Pushy: Whats ".bundle"?
[19:26] <OSaddict> Senza: And Linux software is handled in packages. Some packages depend on others, which depend on others.
[19:26] <xMopxShell> minimec: how is it that an 8 year old, very common GPU, isn't supported?
[19:27] <Senza> Yeah i knew about that, was also planning on setting up a test-network whitin Linux Red Hat servers (Domain Controller, File Server and stuff)
[19:27] <Senza> I'm studieing System engineer and i feel ashamed that i know NOTHING about Linux...
[19:27] <willwh> xMopxShell: probably due to poor driver support for a gpu
[19:27] <minimec> xMopxShell: You're right. That should work.
[19:27] <isaacdownlow> is there any easy way to get notify-send to respect timeout values? I'm aware that notify-osd has deliberately decided to ignore such timeouts, but I really need the ability to change display timeouts!
[19:28] <kostkon> isaacdownlow, notify-osd ignores them yeah
[19:28] <kostkon> isaacdownlow, by design
[19:28] <Maked_One> So my Hardrive has been chugging away for awhile now and I have nothing but this IRC open [was doing it before IRC also] any idea of a GUI i can use to tell me what's causing it?
[19:29] <isaacdownlow> kostkon: is there any notify-osd alternative that I could plug notify-send into for special cases? I don't think it's a good idea to completely get rid of notify-osd (I'm assuming it's been well designed for most stuff), but I'd like to be able to pop a notification with a timeout in a very specific case
[19:29] <OSaddict> xMopxShell: Do you use nVidia?
[19:29] <xMopxShell> OSaddict: yes, both cards
[19:29] <kostkon> isaacdownlow, there are some, search in the repos
[19:30] <xMopxShell> right now im trying removing nouveau entirely
[19:30] <hhh_> is there a way to make a live cd where when i install buuntu it automatically installs my apps liek dropbox and gimp runs commands like to add b43 driver
[19:30] <minimec> xMopxShell: DOn't do that!
[19:30] <OSaddict> xMopxShell: nVidia is a nightmare on Linux. Very hit-and-miss. You should try both the open-source drivers and nVidia's own drivers.
[19:30] <rypervenche> xMopxShell: If your nvidia drivers screw up, nouveau is what you will use while you're troubleshooting it.
[19:31] <fr00p> hi
[19:31] <xMopxShell> ah. how should i use the restricted driver for all present gpus/
[19:31] <fr00p> is it possible to install pidgin-otr?
[19:31] <xMopxShell> ?*
[19:31] <okay19> I've been having an issue with GRUB since I updated. I get the rescue prompt on boot.
[19:32] <OSaddict> okay19: Boot up your live CD and run: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[19:32] <sharefree> is new ubuntu highly optimized ?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> sharefree  meaning?
[19:32] <trism> isaacdownlow: the notification daemon needs to own org.freedesktop.Notifications on dbus so you can't really have two running at a time
[19:33] <Beldar> OSaddict, That will not work, and you do not know it is sda.
[19:33] <okay19> OSaddict: I'm using EFI, and grub-install refuses to run.
[19:33] <okay19> OSaddict: But it actually is sda.
[19:33] <AStorm> xMopxShell, what does that mean?
[19:33] <OSaddict> okay19: Assuming that your hard disk is called sda. If you've got a legacy IDE drive, it's hda.
[19:33] <AStorm> there are restricted drivers only for AMD and Nvidia GPUs (and some other rare ones)
[19:34] <xMopxShell> AStorm: minimec suggested running both cards with the restricted driver, instead of nouveau.
[19:34] <AStorm> most machines now have an additional iGPU
[19:34] <AStorm> which cards?
[19:34] <xMopxShell> 9400 GS and GTX 560 Ti
[19:34] <macscam1> i cant enter #ubuntu+1 because it's invite only ... can anyone help with the issue of changing volume in 14.10 skipps the audio
[19:34] <xMopxShell> both nvidia.
[19:34] <AStorm> 9400 GS won't work with new nvidia-driver I think
[19:34] <Multbrelch> Hi all. Problem in 14.04 64Bit on HP EliteBook 2170p: The brightness toggle does not work. This didn't work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136133&p=12606489#post12606489
[19:34] <AStorm> but it's worth a shot
[19:34] <xMopxShell> what does that mean?
[19:34] <AStorm> it's *old*
[19:35] <okay19> OSaddict: I can use a live CD to get a GRUB command line, and then use the configfile command to load the boot menu.
[19:35] <OSaddict> okay19: try this: grub-install /dev/sda --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --recheck --debug
[19:35] <xMopxShell> AStorm: installing nvidia-331 is the only way ive gotten the 9400GS to even power on it's monitor
[19:35] <sharefree> MonkeyDust, meaning ubuntu can bear old shitty hardware now
[19:35] <orogor> hi
[19:35] <okay19> OSaddict: What does the --debug switch do?
[19:36] <Pushy> bombshell
[19:36] <orogor> is it just me or the ubuntu mirror are overloaded ?
[19:36] <isaacdownlow> trism: bah humbug
[19:36] <zsw__> helllo i have lost my password and i have tryed all tactacs exept one. and i need someones help with that.
[19:36] <OerHeks> orogor, yes, mirrors are smokin' due the new release
[19:36] <Multbrelch> Any idea? under 13.10 it worked out of the box
[19:36] <minimec>  xMopxShell the 9400GS is only supported with the nouveau driver, while the GTX560 only seems to work with the restricted driver right now, as it looks. bad situation...
[19:36] <bekks> !password | zsw__
[19:37] <OSaddict> I use it all the time, in case sth goes wrong, I might be able to work out the problem.
[19:37] <xMopxShell> minimec: windows and OSX have no problem using both. Why not ubuntu?
[19:37] <kostkon> message is a fake
[19:37] <volkan> Transmission does not download anything. Does anyone have the same problem?
[19:37] <orogor> nobody switched to apt-p2p  ?
[19:37] <vik1> i cant make update in update manager
[19:37] <zsw__> i have allredy tryed that multipul times
[19:37] <Pushy> donation
[19:37] <OerHeks> volkan, depends on the source of your download
[19:37] <kostkon> Pushy, it's fake
[19:37] <vik1> i click install update . and it keeps waiting . dosent download anything
[19:38] <minimec> xMopxShell: Blame nvidia for it. If that company would share the knowledge with the community, they would run... ;)
[19:38] <OerHeks> volkan, and location ( some ISP block torrents)
[19:38] <volkan> OerHeks, I tried different sources.
[19:38] <dw1> does canonical run freenode?  didnt know
[19:38] <aslaen> Hello, I'm having trouble with cobbler on ubuntu 12.04. I am running into bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cobbler/+bug/1000219
[19:38] <xMopxShell> minimec:  so it sounds like it's impossible to use both cards under ubuntu?
[19:38] <bekks> dw1: It doesnt.
[19:38] <DalekSec> dw1: It's a fake.
[19:38] <Pushy> if my hard drive copy at write rate of 75MegaByte/s  what would it be in Mega Bits?
[19:38] <MHodge> Just for reference, what's your ISP?
[19:38] <dw1> bekks: ah k
[19:38] <AStorm> dw1, that's just a notice, anyone can send it
[19:38] <dw1> DalekSec: yea figured that, just wondered if it was semi accurate
[19:39] <Pushy> anyone is going for a spin?
[19:39] <Multbrelch> I try this now: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450437/ubuntu-14-04-brightness-problem-in-hp-hybrid-laptop see you later
[19:39] <AStorm> dw1, the K-line right afterwards is a dead giveaway (all puns intended)
[19:39] <OSaddict> volkan: Torrents vary in speed. I took me 4 hours jut to download the crunchbang iso!
[19:39] <dw1> AStorm: yeah
[19:39] <aslaen> I've already tried changing $suite to precise, but I get this error "mirror does not have any suite symlinks"
[19:39] <aslaen> I also get release precise not found.
[19:39] <aslaen> Can anyone help me out?
[19:40] <macscam1> anybody know how to make a custom folder icon? like i have an image, need to get it to icon format
[19:40] <zsw__> so what i did is i downloaded ubuntu 14.04 just now and someone told me if i delete the hash for my pass that i could axscces my account without a pass
[19:40] <OSaddict> macscam1: You mean for a specific folder?
[19:40] <dougstew33>  G
[19:41] <macscam1> OSaddict yea
[19:41] <dw1> zsw__: is your home folder encrypted?
[19:42] <dw1> zsw__: if not, just boot into repair prompt and run passwd <user> as root
[19:42] <zsw__> multbrech, nice jesture but no
[19:42] <dw1> zsw__: or ctrl-alt-f1 from login screen, alt-f7 to get back
[19:42] <OSaddict> macscam1: Just click the big folder icon in "Properties"
[19:42] <dw1> zsw__: if you can login there......
[19:43] <minimec> xMopxShell: That I cannot tell you for sure, as I don't have experience with nvidia anymore. I used to have one but right now I stick with my internal GPU. And if you activated the internal Intel GPU and used it with the GTX560?
[19:43] <OSaddict> macscam1: PNG format is the one that's always used. IDK if others would work also.
[19:43] <zsw__> really,dwl i have no idea
[19:43] <macscam1> OSaddict surprisingly simple thanks
[19:44] <zsw__> give me a sec
[19:44] <phao> if I run an application with optirun, it'll necessarily use my nvidia driver, right?
[19:44] <ntviet18> hi
[19:44] <xMopxShell> minimec: id rather not, the internal GPU isn't set up for windows / OSX on the same hardware, and i'd rather not need to change plugs every time i boot to a different partition.
[19:45] <minimec> xMopxShell: I see...
[19:45] <xMopxShell> minimec: thanks for the help so far though. i think ubuntu just wont work for me at present.
[19:46] <OSaddict> xMopxShell: Try a different version.
[19:46] <xMopxShell> OSaddict: of the nvidia driver?
[19:46] <minimec> xMopxShell: You could search on the internet whether there is some experimental support of the gtx560 with the nouveau driver. That might be a solution. I guess the official 14.04 only ships a stable driver, not an experimental one.
[19:46] <OSaddict> I've had computers that couldn't run 13.10, but could run 12.04.
[19:47] <babyswizz> any proper documentation on the ubuntu terminal commands anywhere?
[19:47] <xMopxShell> OSaddict: ah. i think that would only have to do with what is enabled on the distro by default…
[19:47] <rypervenche> babyswizz: Are you new to Linux?
[19:49] <babyswizz> rypervenche: yes I am and I am trying to use the Unix programmer's manual but I think there are some difference in the command described there
[19:49] <tim_> hi
[19:49] <rypervenche> babyswizz: I've always found this useful: http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[19:50] <OSaddict> babyswizz: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html is a good one also.
[19:50] <tim_> hi guys
[19:50] <tim_>
[19:51] <Guest84117> hi
[19:51] <tim_> how are u guys
[19:51] <Guest84117> <<- fine
[19:51] <tim_> first time with irssi
[19:52] <Multbrelch> I'm back - help: I triedd "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"" but it didn't help. I removed the line in grub and NOW unity is not working. What shall I do?
[19:52] <babyswizz> thanks guys
[19:53] <zsw_> im back
[19:53] <tim_> how i get a list of all channels
[19:53] <tim_>
[19:53] <kostkon> !alis | tim_
[19:53] <zsw_> hello
[19:53] <qin> Multbrelch: how have you edited grub entry?
[19:54] <Multbrelch> qin, yes
[19:54] <qin> how?
[19:54] <Multbrelch> and then update-grup
[19:54] <Multbrelch> how? with nano ...
[19:54] <tim_> !alis
[19:54] <Jorky> helou
[19:54] <Jorky> faggots
[19:55] <qin> Multbrelch: you can edit grub from boot to and you should have line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= with some values
[19:55] <zsw_> if i use ubuntu 14.04iso can i delete password hash somehow?
[19:56] <Multbrelch> qin, mom
[19:56] <bekks> zsw_: usermod
[19:56] <zsw_> bekks, ???
[19:56] <bekks> zsw_: thats the tool do disable the user account which effectively deletes the password hash
[19:57] <zsw_> good but how,bekks
[19:57] <a7i3n> In 14.04 Canonical has apparently forked gnome-settings-daemon to somethiing else. Any idea what it might be?
[19:57] <bekks> zsw_: "thats the tool do disable the user account which effectively deletes the password hash".
[19:57] <CosmoX> ..
[19:58] <kostkon> a7i3n, http://iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-developers-registered-unity-control-center-launchpad-fork-gnome-control-center-so-we-can
[19:58] <trism> a7i3n: unity-settings-daemon
[19:58] <zsw_> what,how,and most of all where,bekks
[19:58] <bekks> zsw_: What exactly are you trying to do, and why?
[19:58] <hhh_> is there a way to make a live cd where when i install buuntu it automatically installs my apps liek dropbox and gimp runs commands like to add b43 driver
[19:58] <Multbrelch> qin, yes I have now: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash "
[19:58] <Multbrelch> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[19:58] <Multbrelch>
[19:58] <a7i3n> Thanks for the help all you folks
[19:58] <zsw_> i lost my account password
[19:59] <TheVampist> I'm having some issues with my Y500 dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu.
[19:59] <kostkon> zsw_, are you trying to reset/recover your password?
[19:59] <Multbrelch> qin, in directory "/etc/default"
[19:59] <zsw_> recover
[19:59] <kostkon> zsw_, not possible but you can reset it
[19:59] <Multbrelch> Why is Unity not working now? .... ??
[20:00] <kostkon> zsw_, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[20:00] <zsw_> how?
[20:00] <kostkon> zsw_, easy to follow how-to ^^
[20:00] <ultimo> ciao
[20:00] <liquidee> zsw_: you can boot from live cd and change /etc/passwd
[20:00] <ultimo> !list
[20:00] <liquidee> zsw_: but i guess the link is better
[20:00] <zsw_> i have tryed that method several times and the live disk was what i was talking about
[20:01] <Multbrelch> qin, remember: before I have changed the line to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[20:01] <Multbrelch> with following update-grub
[20:01] <zsw_> how would i boot from live disk ,bekks
[20:02] <bekks> zsw_: Insert it, boot it.
[20:02] <zsw_> i no have disk but i alredy download iso
[20:02] <sixwheeledbeast> ah, found it kristenbb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right-or-left
[20:02] <bekks> zsw_: Then burn that iso to a disk.
[20:02] <liquidee> zsw_: you got a pendrive to use?
[20:03] <zsw_> can i use stick?
[20:03] <liquidee> zsw_: you can use UNetBootin which will download the iso for you and install it to the usb stick
[20:03] <liquidee> zsw_: which you can then boot
[20:03] <zsw_> ok walk me through it?
[20:03] <bekks> !usb | zsw
[20:03] <qin> Multbrelch: well you can change to "noquiet nosplash" to see err, you can do it via grub menu (hold shift and press e to edit)
[20:03] <zsw_> please. i linux noob :)
[20:04] <Multbrelch> qin, thx for your kind help. - Ive seen that under 13.10 I have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[20:04] <Multbrelch> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="persistent"
[20:04] <a7i3n> Anyone have an idea how I could load the unity keybindings to my i3wm settings? Current string does not work: exec --no-startup-id unity-settings-daemon
[20:04] <Multbrelch> I try this now, cu later
[20:04] <liquidee> zsw_: follow the instructions in the link that ubottu gave you first
[20:05] <liquidee> zsw_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:06] <minimec> a7i3n: There is a tool calles xbindkeys that would allow you to setup all the shortcuts you want. just start it when using i3wm.
[20:08] <adam_____> trying to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04.. erroring out. where can I see the logs of what went wrong?
[20:08] <keevitaja> if i need to reinstall my windows will it overwrite grup?
[20:08] <keevitaja> grub(
[20:08] <qin> keevitaja: yes
[20:09] <qin> !grub
[20:10] <Multbrelch> qin, it didn't work. Unity is not working, no side bar etc. Here is my grub file: http://www.pasteall.org/50946
[20:10] <Multbrelch> latest grub file
[20:10] <Beldar> keevitaja, Grub is easy to deal with, you can image/clone a working windows install and just reload it if needed.
[20:10] <adam_____> getting a lot of "Err http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/universe Translation-en_CA                                             "
[20:11] <adam_____> "[20:12] <qin> Multbrelch: you could adduser sometestuser and see "his" unity works, also vendor flag may need to be removed.
[20:13] <qin> not sure how backlight would affect unity tho.
[20:14] <Multbrelch> u ask me, qin .... :-) ALL THIS IS QUITE STRANGE
[20:14] <Multbrelch> I will try in 15min
[20:17] <yakc> let's say I have 4 horizontal workspaces and i want to switch between them with on key shortcut. is it possible to make it switch back to the first after 4th or do I need to make another key to go back on it. I know you can use arrow keys but I'm just curious.
[20:17] <yakc> one key not on key
[20:19] <Multbrelch> qin, what do u mean by "vendor flag"?
[20:20] <qin> Multbrelch: "acpi_backlight=vendor" unless it does its work it is only think which may affect something
[20:22] <Multbrelch> qin, I tried with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" only but after update-grub Unity does not show the side bar etc.
[20:23] <minimec>  yakc: It is possible to switch through all desktops and go from 4 -> 1. I don't remember if you can use ubuntu-tweak or if you need the compiz-config-settings-manager. One key shortcut should be possible too, but you might 'loose' the <ctrl><alt>arrow shortcut...
[20:24] <yakc> okay, i'll take another look then. thank you
[20:26] <qin> Multbrelch: there is kinda new help page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[20:26] <sixwheeledbeast> I find it easier using the scroll wheel in the desktop switcher
[20:27] <Multbrelch> qin, yep I found that too but how do I get Unity back first, with default values from installation?
[20:28] <wafflejock_> Multbrelch: should probably search distro specific but something like this should work http://askubuntu.com/questions/95458/how-do-i-reinstall-unity
[20:29] <kostkon> Multbrelch, also try this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:29] <wafflejock_> Multbrelch: do a lsb_release -a to get your exact distro
[20:30] <nosmelc> I'm trying to mount a Windows file share.  It works if I just edit fstab, but I want to make it work with my log in user name and password by using libpam_mount.  Any ideas what's wrong?  I used the MountWindowsSharesPermanently guide
[20:30] <wafflejock_> oh huh I actually commented on that SO post :P
[20:30] <Multbrelch> wafflejock_, and kostkon I will try, thanks for your advices
[20:31] <Multbrelch> I will let you know later
[20:32] <holstein> nosmelc: you just want persistent samba mounting.. try gigolo
[20:35] <ximal> Hello. I am in need of assistance installing xfce please ? What do I type in terminal to install the desktop environment xtfce ?
[20:36] <adam_____> Still can't upgrade to 14.04.. anyone care to help me?
[20:36] <zsw_> i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error
[20:37] <dioioib> I'm going to install 14.04 in a VM first before I do an install on my hardware.
[20:37] <dioioib> adam____: are you setting up server or desktop
[20:37] <adam_____> desktop
[20:37] <adam_____> want to upgrade this laptop from 13.10 to 14.04
[20:37] <dioioib> are you having issues?
[20:37] <zsw_> i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error
[20:37] <adam_____> yup
[20:37] <xangua> ximal: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:37] <qin> ximal: And what Ubuntu do you run?
[20:38] <adam_____> getting "[20:38] <ximal> I just installed the latest version
[20:38] <dioioib> is that using the ubuntu package manager?
[20:38] <adam_____> this is using "sudo do-release-upgrade" from command line
[20:38] <zsw_> hello?
[20:38] <ximal> i am running the default version qin
[20:38] <adam_____> either way it doesn't work
[20:39] <k1l_> adam_____: what does it say before that line?
[20:39] <adam_____> have to run it again
[20:39] <adam_____> 1 sec
[20:39] <qin> ximal: Much more sensible is to download Xubuntu and try/install it, or as xangua shown you, you can migrate
[20:39] <ximal> i just set the terminal ... i don't have the time to spend redownloading... not worried.. take but a few moments
[20:39] <adam_____> it goes through getting all the sources
[20:40] <adam_____> errs on all the en_CA translations
[20:40] <adam_____> as expected
[20:40] <adam_____> Canadian english is fine to default to just en
[20:40] <adam_____> for localization
[20:40] <dioioib> another canuck? sweet. :)
[20:40] <zsw_> anyone there?
[20:40] <adam_____> yup
[20:41] <adam_____> it says "could not calculate the upgrade"
[20:41] <adam_____> "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."
[20:42] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1TdrGSx0
[20:42] <zsw_>  i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error
[20:42] <adam_____> I'm thinking it's unofficial packages.. how can I get a list of those and disable them for the upgrade then re-enable them?
[20:43] <zsw_>  i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error
[20:43] <k1l_> adam_____: please show "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a pastebin
[20:44] <adam_____> could this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/202730/how-to-fix-the-unable-to-calculate-upgrade-issue-when-upgrading-from-12-04-to
[20:44] <dioioib> k1l_: are you thinking he just doesn't have the repo in his list?
[20:44] <k1l_> dioioib: maybe he got some 3rd party repo there
[20:45] <zsw_>  i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error
[20:45] <mrjester> I am looking for the 14.04 alternative install images.  Are they just not available yet or has something changed?
[20:45] <k1l_> adam_____: after that please show "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[20:45] <k1l_> mrjester: there are no alternate anymore. use the minimal
[20:45] <dioioib> mrjester: what platform?
[20:45] <mrjester> x64  Trying to do an OEM install.
[20:46] <dioioib> wasn't that like in 12 they removes PPC.
[20:46] <zsw_>  i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error. anyone
[20:46] <newvista> I'm unable to update using synaptic package manager, says failed to reach ubuntu server. Anyone else having this problem?
[20:47] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/otRf3Hxy
[20:47] <mrjester> k1l_: Thanks.
[20:47] <adam_____> had to grep out the commented out lines
[20:47] <MHodge> newvista, have you tried reconnecting to the internet just to check?
[20:47] <adam_____> k1l_: does that help?
[20:48] <newvista> firefox is working fine. anything else to try?
[20:48] <MHodge> Did Synaptic come packaged?
[20:48] <k1l_> adam_____: no the other command please. that will list the PPAs
[20:49] <MHodge> Or did you download it?
[20:49] <k1l_> MHodge: synaptic is not in the ubuntu standard install anymore. but you can install it if you want
[20:49] <MHodge> Oh, in that case, you can try reinstalling. :)
[20:49] <Simplecpm> Hey, my copy of 14.04 will not let me open apt links from the Ubuntu website.  Am I missing something?
[20:50] <johnja> I had some sort of hardware failure during upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 leaving my computer in such a state that I don't have a desktop environment.  Unfortunately, I also don't have working network either.  eth0 seems to be missing.  How should I go about getting eth0 back?
[20:50] <Simplecpm> It just gives me an empty application choice list.
[20:50] <dioioib> johnja: can you run starx in terminal
[20:50] <MHodge> Simplecpm, were you able to choose a program to use?
[20:51] <Simplecpm> I was not.
[20:51] <Simplecpm> I'm not sure how to get to the application center from the browse menu.
[20:51] <Guest11067> Hi. I've set up an encrypted swap partition but it is reported as inactive.
[20:51] <barrett> is there a way to check the temperature of your motherboard chipset from the terminal?  without adding physical sensors?
[20:51] <k1l_> dioioib: startx will mess with .xautority file permissions
[20:52] <k1l_> dioioib: use the lightdm instead
[20:52] <dioioib> oh yeah unity right
[20:52] <k1l_> barrett: see lm_sensors
[20:52] <dioioib> I am still running gnome on 13.
[20:52] <johnja> dioioib: I have a login screen at low resulution.  When I put in my password the login doesn't happen.  X is running, but I can't get to a desktop.
[20:52] <k1l_> dioioib: no, ubuntu is meant to start the desktop with a *dm (lightdm in ubuntus case).
[20:52] <dioioib> as k1l_ said you might need to run with lightdm and reintall it
[20:52] <MHodge> johnja, I don't know if this was asked, but what version is installed on your pc?
[20:53] <dioioib> MHodge: he said it was an upgrade to 14.04
[20:54] <johnja> MHodge:  I don't have a proper version of Ubuntu at this time.  I had a crash during the upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04.
[20:54] <xtjacob> I have a quick question about UEFI. I am trying to install a dual-boot with windows 8.1, and I'm not sure how to do the partitioning. Do I have to create my own /boot/efi partition, or does it use the efi partition windows created?
[20:55] <k1l_> johnja: then go into a konsole (ctrl+alt+f1) and run " sudo apt-get update " then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:56] <s7x> hey guys, wondering how to get wine to see my usb snd card so guitar rig works on wine. any ideas?
[20:56] <Beldar> !uefi > xtjacob
[20:57] <johnja> k1l_: Part of the problem is that I have no network connection at this time.  eth0 seems to have gone missing.
[20:57] <xtjacob> ubottu: I'll give it a look!
[20:58] <kostkon> s7x, what's your problem exactly
[20:58] <s7x> when i load up guitar rig in wine i cant select my usb device as input so basically it doesnt work
[20:59] <s7x> pulseaudio is my only option
[21:00] <xtjacob> ubottu: so it says I have to set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition. How do I do that? When I try to edit my EFI partition, I can't set the mountpoint
[21:00] <kostkon> s7x, so do it. install pavucontrol and seen if guitar rig appears in recording
[21:01] <xtjacob> so it says I have to set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition. How do I do that? When I try to edit my EFI partition, I can't set the mountpoint
[21:03] <s7x> I see in recording tab, guitar rig stream #6
[21:03] <kostkon> s7x, can you select a device for it?
[21:04] <s7x> kostkon, not sure what you mean...in the device tab?
[21:04] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/eUPeO6Ic
[21:04] <s7x> input device tab i mean
[21:04] <adam_____> k1l_:
[21:05] <k1l_> adam_____: that is a lot of 3rd party repos
[21:05] <adam_____> yup
[21:06] <k1l_> adam_____: the chances are high that some PPA causes that error (like its mentioned in that askubuntu thread)
[21:06] <adam_____> for example, I need latest 2.9.x GIMP for 16-bit colour chanel
[21:06] <johnja> apt-get is complaining about unmet dependencies and apt-get -f install refused to fix them, but aptitude looks like it is working though.  I might be okay.
[21:07] <adam_____> k1l_: so, here's thing. How do I disable most of them or exclude them from upgrade and then re add them?
[21:07] <ewooy> is there a way to tell where is command running from? I want to replace firefox with nightly, so I thought about replacing symlink somewhere (dont know where yet) :D
[21:07] <dioioib> ewooy: use who
[21:08] <kostkon> s7x, in recording i mean.
[21:08] <dioioib> only works if the command is currently running though
[21:08] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | adam_____
[21:08] <ewooy> dioioib: how would who help me? Isn't this showing only who is logged in?
[21:08] <k1l_> !ppapurge | adam_____
[21:09] <dioioib> ewooy: yes then you can check ps -A
[21:09] <s7x> kostkon, yes i can, i can select the device (right now tried using jackd) and it shows that its responsive
[21:09] <adam_____> ok.. I'll give that a go
[21:09] <dioioib> with that user
[21:09] <OerHeks> so many ppa's, i hope for you that ppapurge can handle it
[21:09] <adam_____> would that stop those programs from working?
[21:09] <localg0d> What is the url for the xubuntu iso please ? i cannot find it at ubuntu.com
[21:09] <adam_____> or just leave them out from the updates?
[21:10] <k1l_> adam_____: that will revert to official ubuntu versions
[21:10] <OerHeks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[21:10] <localg0d> and why has ubuntu decided to make it so hard to choose whether or not you want the xubuntu or educational iso etc ?
[21:10] <adam_____> hmm
[21:10] <k1l_> you could readd them afterwards
[21:10] <demo_> hello, where can i ask questions about linux installing?:D
[21:10] <dioioib> ewooy: or you might want to run this if the command is not running $ history
[21:10] <xangua> localg0d: xubuntu.orgedubuntu.org google.com
[21:10] <OerHeks> localg0d, xubuntu.com ?
[21:11] <k1l_> adam_____: the problem is that those modified packages can make the upgrade to stop
[21:11] <adam_____> ok.. say gimp as an example
[21:11] <ewooy> dioioib: Command is not running, when I type firefox into terminal I want to know where is it ran from
[21:11] <dioioib> ewooy: that will only show your user though
[21:12] <dioioib> ewooy: oh you just want to find the dir. just use $ find firefox
[21:12] <adam_____> that's easy because I can just install from downloaded executable until they update the developer ppa that has the version I need
[21:12] <localg0d> i tried xubuntu.com but thank you xangua
[21:12] <adam_____> I would like to clean it up anyway. how do I remove one of the ppas?
[21:12] <ewooy> dioioib: thanks
[21:12] <adam_____> same command?
[21:12] <localg0d> the other link with the url OerHeks shared worked fairly well
[21:12] <xangua> !ppa-purge | adam_____
[21:13] <dioioib> ewooy: just make sure you do recursive search from root.
[21:13] <localg0d> I did the sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop on the other system already and it is running as we speak.. already done downloading and installing
[21:13] <Flannel> ewooy: `which firefox` will tell you the path of 'firefox'.
[21:13] <dioioib> like find . firefox
[21:13] <adam_____> what I would really like to see is which ppa it choked on when doing the upgrade
[21:13] <s7x> Hello, I am trying to get Guitar rig to work under wine. It loads up just fine, but I cannot seem to select any other input device other than pulseaudio which doesnt channel into Guitar rig and work..so I need to fix this from a wine standpoint? I tried installed jackd server but still can only select pulseaudio in wine as the audio device (sound card)
[21:13] <Flannel> ewooy: If you want to use a different version that you installed, add it to your /usr/local/bin, and that'll be founf before the package version.
[21:14] <Pushy> what is LTS stand for?
[21:14] <szymon_g> hi
[21:14] <geirha> dioioib: not quite
[21:14] <k1l_> !lts | Pushy
[21:14] <Pushy> Ubuntu LTS = Ubuntu Life Too Short?
[21:14] <dioioib> geirha: find . firefox | grep firefox works fine fore me
[21:14] <Flannel> dioioib: `which firefox` is what he's looking for.
[21:14] <geirha> dioioib: that's silly
[21:15] <ewooy> Flannel: thanks!
[21:15] <dioioib> unless there are 2 versions of firefox on his system.
[21:15] <geirha> ''type firefox'' is better
[21:15] <dioioib> i've never used type
[21:15] <k1l_> Pushy: do you have a technical ubuntu support issue?
[21:15] <geirha> run ''help type'' to read about it
[21:15] <dioioib> doing that now
[21:16] <Flannel> dioioib: No, his question was "what's being run when I type 'firefox'" not "where are firefox(es) on my system"
[21:16] <Raziel-CZ> Helloo Linux World, I am the Novice :)
[21:16] <Pushy> k1l_, can microsoft 2010 install in ubuntu?
[21:16] <geirha> dioioib: Anyway, as for find, it would be  find . -name firefox   to look for a file named firefox from the current directory
[21:16] <demo_> hello, ive done today my first linux install and ive got some problems. it worked fine at first, then ive installed the upgrades popping up. now it hangs when booting up. can anyone help?
[21:17] <geirha> Flannel: And which does not answer that; type does
[21:17] <dioioib> geirha: why in the world would you need to use find for something in the current directory
[21:17] <dioioib> in that case you would know where it was
[21:17] <geirha> dioioib: are you kidding me?
[21:17] <Raziel-CZ> Nějaký Čech tu asi není, což?
[21:17] <k1l_> Pushy: last chance: do you have a technical ubuntu support issue?
[21:17] <bekks> !cz | Raziel-CZ
[21:17] <k1l_> !cz | Raziel-CZ
[21:17] <geirha> dioioib: well, with recurssion, obviously
[21:17] <Raziel-CZ> bekks, kl_: thx
[21:18] <Flannel> geirha: It does answer that.  Stop talking nonsense.
[21:18] <dioioib> that is not much different then using grep to find all files with the tag firefox including any scripts.
[21:18] <Raziel-CZ> !cz
[21:18] <geirha> Flannel: If firefox was an alias or function, type would say so, which would not
[21:19] <localg0d> xangua: do you mind telling me how i might change the bootlist to boot windows first ? for some reason i cannot find that setting in the administrative settings section..
[21:19] <dioioib> geirha: sounds like type is the way to go then
[21:19] <geirha> type is a shell builtin, which is a pointless and badly written shell script
[21:19] <dioioib> geirha: does it have a shorter run cycle. I can't use it on my current system
[21:19] <LostMyMind> If I were to format my partition, then install 13.03, install some 3rd party software, then update to 14.04, would my 3rd party software still be there?
[21:19] <bekks> LostMyMind: 13.04 is EOL. Do not install it anymore.
[21:20] <bekks> LostMyMind: In addition, you would have to upgrade to 13.10 first, before you can upgrade to 14.04
[21:20] <geirha> dioioib: shorter run cycle?
[21:20] <k1l_> LostMyMind: why dont you start with 14.04 in first place?
[21:20] <dioioib> geirha: well using find . firefox | grep Firefox takes a long time to run. hence it's run cycle
[21:21] <minimec> LostMyMind: ... and yes 3rd party software would still be present, but the repositories fpr updates would be disabled
[21:22] <qin> dioioib: find is useless for it, use locate to have some flying expirience in terminal, and why would you have 2 versions of same browser installed, and how did you managed to do it?
[21:22] <LostMyMind> well, I'm new to linux. The 3rd party software has a PPA for 13.03, but not for 14.04. It's one peice of software that is must-have for me. They have a downloadable file for manual installation, but apperently it's hard to install since certain dependancies aren't available on 14.04
[21:23] <bekks> LostMyMind: Chances are good it wont run on 14.04 then. And 13.04 (not 13.03) is EOL - so you are out of luck actually.
[21:23] <dioioib> qin: a I didn't install it. 2 if you compile from source you could. And find with a pipe to a grep works for finding almost anything in your system
[21:23] <qin> LostMyMind: and what piece of software is it?
[21:23] <k1l_> LostMyMind: that is not usable on 14.04 anyway
[21:24] <k1l_> LostMyMind: which program is that?
[21:24] <LostMyMind> Playstation3 media Server
[21:24] <k1l_> ah, you again
[21:24] <qin> dioioib: compile from source is bad idea, mozzilla will overwrite itself, unless you change installation paths
[21:24] <SofS> qin: firefox is easy to have on multiple versions, either the tarball or compiling, and each is pretty much standalone, however they have to be launched directly from their own folders
[21:25] <qin> dioioib: find with exec makes sense with pipe little less
[21:25] <dioioib> qin: I know. I am just giving you examples here.
[21:25] <geirha> dioioib: piping find to grep just shows that you don't know how to use the find command. But don't fret, it *is* a very complicated command.
[21:25] <localg0d> can anyone tell me how i get away from the default desktop settings ? turn off all the transitional effects etc ?
[21:26] <geirha> dioioib: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind
[21:26] <orogor> localg0d, basically ... use another desktop
[21:26] <qin> SofS: linky, since last time almost broken keyboard installing old fox ;)
[21:26] <orogor> lxdeskip or whatever
[21:27] <localg0d> I install xubuntu but unfortunately when I selected xfce it will not run that desktop .. it runs the same looking desktop
[21:27] <orogor> :/
[21:27] <LostMyMind> I got it to install on my last distro, but that was linuxlite which was based on 13.03. Then randomly the whole system froze up. I had to push and hold power to turn it off. When I turned it back on, grub was gone. Wouldn't load anything. I reinstalled via dvd for 14.04, and now everything works again. But now I'm finding problems with ps3 media server, and flash on firefox.
[21:27] <orogor> can t choose another thing at the session login ?
[21:27] <Chuo> Hey guys, I can't open libreoffice because it says I don't have access rights to ~/.config/libreoffice/4 How do I go about fixing it?
[21:28] <k1l_> LostMyMind: talk to that PPA maintainer to make a package for 14.04
[21:28] <orogor> Chuo,  that s weirdo
[21:28] <zzz_> Can anyone offer any advice on wireless for 14.04? My PCIe card (Ralink RT5392 using stock rt2860.bin) has stopped connecting to my home WPA2 network. It will connect to the network unsecured, and I've tried my phone as a hotspot and connected unsecured and with WPA2 there. I can scan for networks fine. Yesterday night I had Internet fine again, today it's back to no connectivity.
[21:28] <SofS> qui: well, it really only works if each is in its own folder, mixing with systemwide settings/folders would be sad
[21:29] <LostMyMind> I'm not going to look for the individual topic again, but basically he wrote on his forum that there is a certain dependancy that isn't on 14.04. So the installation will be harder. Me being new to linux I couldn't even figure out how to install a tar.gz
[21:30] <dioioib> geirha: the whole name search portion of find is really nice. thanks.
[21:30] <amed> i have a problem with automounting of a partition ext4
[21:30] <adam_____> I'm not sure why the distro update doesn't have an option to ignore the optional sources I've included if their dependencies can't be satisfied
[21:31] <qin> SofS: Sad is a bad word to discribe it. ;) Well for a moment using separate vbox for every ff ;)
[21:31] <adam_____> I'd like to have to rebuild that myself if I really want to use it
[21:31] <Chuo> how do I change the permissions to ~/.config/libreoffice$ using terminal
[21:31] <AP-> yi
[21:31] <AP-> hi
[21:32] <AP-> is it a file
[21:32] <AP-> or a directory SI
[21:32] <k1l_> adam_____: that is the usual way. but what the installed packages cause is up to the packages.
[21:32] <AP-> r
[21:32] <AP-> sory for typos
[21:32] <AP-> im a lil drunk
[21:32] <AP-> and thinkk i screwed a rabit
[21:33] <amed> this is my /etc/fstab http://pastebin.com/HiUsdrJJ
[21:33] <k1l_> AP-: dont drink and irc. :)  if you want to chat talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:33] <SofS> qin: would not different profiles do the job instead of a full vbox?
[21:33] <minimec> Chuo: example 'chmod 660 ~/.config/libreoffice'
[21:33] <johnja> AP-: please leave the animals alone.
[21:34] <adam_____> k1l_: so what you're saying is that the installed packackages may have changed the systems files? or what is part of the official distribution?
[21:34] <LostMyMind> what would ubuntu-offtopic talk about? Sounds like a catch 22
[21:34] <Chuo> minimec: are those the permissions it needs 660?
[21:34] <k1l_> adam_____: yes
[21:34] <k1l_> !ot | LostMyMind
[21:35] <adam_____> ok.. so when I disable all the extras in sources, is there a way to revert the distro-affecting files (who cares if the stuff I added stops working)?
[21:35] <minimec> Chuo: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/introduction_to_linux/linux_The_chmod_command.html
[21:36] <qin> SofS: I dont know, ff is no bigge right now. No worries about it.
[21:36] <OerHeks> adam_____, ppapurge
[21:36] <Michael87> Hey I am getting ready to begin a youtube channel. I am looking for a quallity webcam program. I love cheese but all its outputs are only webm and not mp4. is it recommended to record in webm and if so is there a way to increase the bitrates? I can go up to 720p on it but the output always has a bit of compression in the picture
[21:37] <bray90820> So i am trying to install ubuntu on my mac i can boot from 13.10 usb drive i made but i cant from 14.04-mac
[21:37] <amed> somebody?
[21:38] <qin> Michael87: vlc?
[21:38] <bray90820> eventho i can boot 14.04-mac on my pc
[21:38] <Chuo> minimec: the problem is I don't know what permissions it needs and don't even know why is blocked, I only installed base and it wouldn't run, I have the feeling that if I uninstall it it won't change the permissions.
[21:38] <bray90820> ubuntu-mac
[21:38] <Michael87> qin, vlc? never thought about tryying that thanks
[21:38] <amed> bray90820, i have fedora 20 in my Mac
[21:38] <sharto> what differences in performance can i expect when enabling unity 8 and mir?
[21:38] <k1l_> sharto: it is a preview.
[21:39] <amed> i need help with auto mount a partition ext4, somebody?
[21:39] <Bray90820> fedore guy do you have any experience with ubuntu on a mac
[21:39] <minimec> Chuo: 'mv ~/.config/libreoffice ~/.config/libreoffice-bak' would rename it (backup). Launching libreoffice would then create a new one with the according rights you need.
[21:40] <amed> Bray90820, use a ubuntu iso for mac
[21:40] <dioioib> bray90820: what are you looking for?
[21:40] <Michael87> qin, thank you for the advice. its a start wither or not vlc is the best choice
[21:40] <sharto> k1l_: so it doesn't actually install unity 8 and mir?
[21:41] <minimec> Chuo: 660 should do, I guess...
[21:41] <Bray90820> Well i made two usb installs one of 13.10 and one of 14,04 mac edition i can't seem to boot the 13.10 boot fine on my mac but 14.04 won't boot
[21:41] <Bray90820> 14.04 boots on my pc tho
[21:41] <k1l_> sharto: it does. but its like a trailer comparing to a full movie
[21:42] <Chuo> minimec: 660 didn't work. How do I delete the folder? is not rm is it
[21:42] <k1l_> sharto: please read the whole new and not just the headlines
[21:42] <rww> e.g. the Unity 8 desktop UI is not finalized yet, so it's very tablet-y right now
[21:42] <dioioib> bray90820: so these are both bootable usb keys or HDs?
[21:42] <sharto> k1l_: okay.. :[
[21:42] <amed> Bray90820, mmm use https://scottlinux.com/2011/06/14/how-to-dual-boot-os-x-and-linux/
[21:42] <qin> Michael87: probably not best, but its all rounder and well documented and tested
[21:42] <sharto> k1l_: thank you
[21:42] <Bray90820> dioioib: usb keys
[21:43] <audictive> rtorrent
[21:43] <dioioib> bray90820: and how are you booting them now
[21:43] <Bray90820> Well on my mac i am holding down option key when i boot
[21:44] <minimec> Chuo: 'mv' is better as it does rename the folder and you have a backup. 'rm' would indeed delete the file. 'chmod 777' would give full acces to everyone...
[21:44] <dioioib> bray90820: for 14.04 how is the key formated?
[21:44] <amed> C or D key to boot
[21:44] <minimec> Chuo: Wait! 'chmod -R 660 ~/.config/libreoffice.
[21:45] <Chuo> minimec: yeah but it doesn't matter because libre should create again, rm didn't work though
[21:45] <Bray90820> dioioib: do you mean partition type
[21:45] <dioioib> yes
[21:45] <Bray90820> dioioib: fat 32
[21:46] <minimec> Chuo: '-R' apply changes to all the files in the folder. As I told you... 'mv' is always better.
[21:46] <s7x> Hello, I am trying to get Guitar rig to work under wine. It loads up just fine, but I cannot seem to select any other input device other than pulseaudio which doesnt channel into Guitar rig and work..so I need to fix this from a wine standpoint? I tried installed jackd server but still can only select pulseaudio in wine as the audio device (sound card)
[21:46] <dioioib> bray90820: the only thing I could suggest trying are remake your key or try a boot manager like this http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[21:47] <Bray90820> dioioib: this is teh second time i am making the key
[21:47] <dioioib> what program did you use?
[21:47] <dioioib> I had someone in here the other day that ran into an issue using one of the programs that auto makes your usb keys
[21:48] <Chuo> minimec: I used rm -r -f, it opens now
[21:48] <Chuo> minimec: thanks
[21:48] <minimec> Chuo: No problem ;)
[21:48] <Bray90820> dioioib: first i tried the one that came with ubuntu and then i tried Universal USB Installer on windows
[21:50] <Brutus> Hi I got a new computer with ubuntu. i had 13.10 but couldn't get my network to work. i went out and got an intel card but that doesn't work either. no ip address. I now upgraded to 14.04 and I got an IP address. I can ping but I get around 12000ms to google com and 56% packet loss. The site itself won't load. I tested the computer with windows and that works just fine.
[21:50] <Brutus> just ubuntu doesn't work
[21:50] <dioioib> bray90820: let me go over my chat logs. brbr
[21:50] <Brutus> other computers work just fine, also on that cable
[21:51] <Brutus> http://users.ninthfloor.org/~brutus/faillog.txt
[21:52] <Brutus> http://users.ninthfloor.org/~brutus/dmesg.txt
[21:52] <Brutus> http://users.ninthfloor.org/~brutus/syslog.txt
[21:52] <Bray90820> dioioib: could it be that i am using the mac iso of 14.04
[21:54] <dioioib> to make your key? Well if you have tried both programs to burn the ISO at this point that would be the only difference between what you did and what he did.
[21:55] <Bray90820> dioioib: so should i just use the desktop version on my mac
[21:55] <dioioib> what version were you trying cloud or server?
[21:56] <Bray90820> dioioib: sorry i misspoke i am using the desktop version what i was asking is if i should use the non mac version
[21:56] <OerHeks> it depends on your apple machine, check the mactel pages > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[21:57] <dioioib> bray90820: do you know where to get your mac version code?
[21:58] <Bray90820> dioioib: do you mean like 8,1 or whatever
[21:58] <dioioib> ye
[21:58] <dioioib> s
[21:58] <Bray90820> I will find it hang on
[22:00] <FreeWin> hi ppl
[22:01] <adam_____> having so many packages, I'd like to know which ones are making the upgrade to 14.04 choke
[22:01] <Bray90820> dioioib: It's 8,1
[22:01] <adam_____> this was not such a big headache going from 13.04 to 13.10.. grrrr
[22:01] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, I'm having trouble using my mic
[22:01] <OerHeks> adam_____, backup your data and fresh install will be the fastest option, i guess
[22:02] <Scriptonaut> Could somebody help me get ubuntu to recognize it?
[22:02] <adam_____> ugh..
[22:02] <FreeWin> i have problems with live usb 14.04.4
[22:02] <dioioib> bray90820: the support matrix says there really isn't a version that best supports your hardware.
[22:02] <Scriptonaut> it's just one of those little audio jack mics, not usb
[22:02] <FreeWin> 12.04.4
[22:02] <FreeWin> my bad :)
[22:02] <Bray90820> dioioib: so does that mean i shouldn't install ubuntu on it?
[22:02] <adam_____> too many things installed to just blast the whole machine
[22:02] <OerHeks> adam_____, we warn especially for PPA's, as these things can happen
[22:03] <adam_____> I would expect that with windows
[22:03] <qin> adam_____: one more reason to nuke it ;)
[22:03] <OerHeks> Don't blaim ubuntu.,
[22:03] <adam_____> I don't have windows
[22:03] <dioioib> bray90820: well if you do you might run into the odd issue with hardware. Just try your live boot and see what you can and can't do before you install it.
[22:03] <FreeWin> 12.04.3 and 12.04.2 live usb works great but not 12.04.4
[22:03] <adam_____> I'm not dual booting
[22:03] <Brutus> OerHeks: I'm blaming ubuntu that my netowrk isn't workin but if I install windows on it it works out of the box
[22:03] <cknox> hmmmm
[22:03] <Brutus> it's like a reversed world on my pc
[22:03] <Brutus> :S
[22:04] <Bray90820> dioioib: Well on 12.04 i could do pretty much everything
[22:04] <OerHeks> Brutus, wired or wireless?
[22:04] <Brutus> wired
[22:05] <dioioib> bray90820: then you might want to stick with that version for now.
[22:05] <Brutus> i reinstalled with 14.04 now (was on 13.10 with no wired) and I finally get an ip
[22:05] <qin> Bray90820: 12.04 is still supported... and 14.04 just came up, good habit to give it dry run before deploying
[22:05] <Brutus> when I ping google: 46% packetloss, time 12037ms
[22:05] <Bray90820> dioioib: Well i could just install 13.10 and upgrade to 14.04 but won't me the mac iso
[22:05] <Brutus> everything else is working fine, windows on that same box works fine
[22:06] <Brutus> I'm getting so annoyed with this :S
[22:06] <cknox> so apparently I can change the IP address on my router and not get disconnected?
[22:06] <dioioib> bray90820: looks like 13.04 is supported.
[22:06] <bekks> dioioib: 13.04 is EOL.
[22:06] <Brutus> OerHeks: enig idee?
[22:06] <dioioib> bekks: that sucks
[22:07] <dioioib> no listing for 13.10
[22:07] <Bray90820> dioioib: are you telling me not to upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10
[22:07] <dioioib> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[22:07] <Brutus> OerHeks: I posted the dmesg, syslog and faillog a few minutes ago
[22:07] <OerHeks> Brutus so it works?
[22:07] <minimec> Brutus: is that a wired network or wifi. Internal device or USB?
[22:07] <Brutus> no it doesn't
[22:07] <Brutus> i can't do anything
[22:07] <Brutus> minimec: pci intel gt1000 pro card
[22:08] <dioioib> bray90820: I am saying that I wouldn't right now. qin's advice would be what I would do. Try it on live CD/DVD/USB and see if it works well before installing.
[22:08] <qin> Brutus: does ping <IP_ADDRESS> works any better?
[22:08] <Brutus> i get an ip, i can ping (with half of the packages being lost, huuuuuge ping) but can't reach anything
[22:08] <OerHeks> Brutus, ah that problematic intel 1000 NIC
[22:08] <Brutus> qin: already tried, same problem
[22:08] <dioioib> but seeing as it doesn't even boot on your mac I think I would avoid it.
[22:08] <Brutus> OerHeks: getting the same problems with the internal card
[22:08] <Brutus> actually, not even getting an ip on that
[22:08] <Brutus> :S
[22:08] <minimec> Brutus: Can you give me the complete line of lspci for that card?
[22:08] <Brutus> minimec: i'm sorry?
[22:08] <Bray90820> dioioib: i can't really boot a live usb of ubuntu 14.04
[22:09] <Brutus> oh wait that's a command
[22:09] <dioioib> bray90820: do you have CD/DVD?
[22:09] <Bray90820> dioioib: the download is over 700MB and i don't have any free dvds
[22:10] <Brutus> http://pastebin.com/esySLgyP
[22:10] <Brutus> minimec: that's the lspci
[22:11] <Bray90820> dioioib: i will just use 13.10 and upgrade to 14,04 if it doesn't work for me i will just remove it
[22:11] <dioioib> bray90820: that sounds like a plan.
[22:11] <Brutus> livecd gives the same problems for me
[22:12] <Brutus> 13.10 no ip address, nothing at all. 14.04 an ip address, just can't do anything with it
[22:12] <Bray90820> dioioib: what even is the difference between the mac and non mac iso
[22:12] <dioioib> bray90820: have you thought about installing it to a VM?
[22:12] <Brutus> manually set <IP_ADDRESS> as dns, doesn't work, huge package loss, huge latency
[22:13] <dioioib> bray90820: not much just some low level hardware and drivers mostly. There are limitations on bootable partitions that the OS sees too. you need special bootloaders to run on mac as well. With ufi booting things are supose to be easier though.
[22:13] <jaksi> hi
[22:14] <Bray90820> dioioib: A vm a possibility but it just emulates the hardware from osx so it won't really tell me if something like bluetooth works or not
[22:14] <Brutus> minimec: any idea?
[22:14] <dioioib> bray90820: yeah that was the problem for me to I needed hardware access for some electronics work.
[22:14] <jaksi> I've got a small problem with ubuntu 14.04: sometimes the sound gets a little distorted for a few seconds
[22:15] <jaksi> I don't exactly know what's "triggering" it
[22:15] <jaksi> it occurs every few minutes
[22:17] <minimec> Brutus: Well I see that that special card is making problems for years now. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1003512 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/309211
[22:18] <Brutus> well 100mbit would be an upgrade at this moment :S
[22:18] <roy_> Hi, was upgrading ubuntu on server by ssh an the terminal froze, I managed to ssh back into the server but it was half way through a upgrade how do I get it to carry on with the server upgrade?
[22:19] <minimec> Brutus: Some suggested to use a driver provided by Intel, but that was some years ago. I guess by now the linux kernel uses the best available module. You may be able to tune the card settings in a file in /etc/modprobe.d/82541PI.conf
[22:19] <kostkon> roy_: apt-get dist-upgrade?
[22:20] <Brutus> minimec: that file doesn't exist
[22:21] <holstein> Brutus: you would need to create it, if you need it
[22:21] <holstein> and you shouldnt
[22:21] <Brutus> oh
[22:21] <holstein> Brutus: the kernel module is likely the "best" option
[22:21] <Brutus> holstein: i don't understand that last sentence
[22:21] <holstein> Brutus: then, you would read about, and learn to tune from there, such as that file referenced
[22:21] <cknox> I suppose I shouldn't change the IP address while I'm rsyncing stuff to the server should I?
[22:22] <Brutus> cknox: no you shouldn't
[22:22] <minimec> Brutus: I know. If there are some config options for the driver, you would have to place these options there.
[22:22] <holstein> Brutus: the driver that is *already* in the kernel.. likely the "best", minimec is suggesting
[22:23] <Brutus> ok this starts making less sense to me
[22:24] <euryale> guys need help for installing amd apu driver in ubuntu.
[22:25] <euryale> i want to install the proprietary drivers for it.
[22:25] <holstein> euryale: want or need? how are the open ones? they are usually "best"
[22:25] <holstein> !ati | euryale
[22:25] <crocket> I want to upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10, but is the upgrade going to break PPA packages?
[22:26] <roy_> kostkon: wont let me, says its locked
[22:26] <crocket> PPA packages include graphic card driver.
[22:26] <holstein> crocket: ppa's are not supported officially so, yes
[22:26] <holstein> crocket: likely
[22:26] <crocket> hell
[22:26] <holstein> crocket: you upgrade, then add what you want/need back
[22:27] <crocket> I guess I want to upgrade after ensuring PPA packages don't break.
[22:27] <euryale> @holstein. i don't it seen kind of not laggy, the is not fluid?
[22:27] <euryale> what i mean was, the animation for window spread is not fluid, but it's not laggy.
[22:27] <holstein> euryale: the proprietaru one could be worse.. dont expect it to fix anything
[22:27] <holstein> euryale: try it and see
[22:27] <minimec> Brutus: Some suggested to load the driver like this "modprobe e1000 AutoNeg=0x28"
[22:27] <euryale> ok
[22:31] <minimec> Brutus: Try the following command ...
[22:31] <minimec> Brutus: echo "options e1000 TxIntDelay=0 TxAbsIntDelay=10 RxIntDelay=0 RxAbsIntDelay=10 InterruptThrottleRate=0 SmartPowerDownEnable=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/e1000.conf
[22:31] <Brutus> minimec: that last one did something. i can now after the modprobe reach my internal network!
[22:31] <Brutus> website of my router just loaded
[22:31] <minimec> Brutus: That creates a config file with some settings that might work...
[22:32] <minimec> Brutus: Source in german... at the end http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/netzwerkgeschwindigkeit-instabil-nur-rmmod-mod/
[22:32] <atlasblade> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuqxj5YTA8
[22:33] <logy> anyone knows which channel is for kali linux? (its not kali or backtrack)
[22:34] <crocket> huh
[22:34] <crocket> Does ubuntu come with vdpau support?
[22:35] <Brutus> ok i tried that minimec. my german is a bit rusty though
[22:35] <Brutus> took a while but google was loaded. progress has been made!
[22:36] <crocket> Does ubuntu 14.04 come with vdpau support for nouveau?
[22:36] <Brutus> i did the line but it doesn't appear to have effect or should I do a reboot?
[22:36] <minimec> Brutus: Now reboot or simply unload/load the driver without any option. Maybe check that the e1000.conf file was created in /etc/modprobe.
[22:36] <adam_____> starting to see that libmono and anything that depends on it may be something to remove before upgrading to 14.04
[22:37] <Brutus> i'll just reboot, just as fast
[22:37] <qin> logy: #kali-linux
[22:38] <binBlob> Hi, I have some problems with perf : Failed to find path of kernel module. I did figure out that I need to set some soft links ... but from where ?
[22:39] <binBlob> I have installed the kernel sources and the debug packages
[22:39] <Brutus> minimec: did a reboot but didn't work. can't reach my internal network anymore either
[22:42] <minimec> Brutus: So delete that e1000.conf file again or try just to put 'options AutoNeg=0x28' in there instead of the 'junk' we have in there.
[22:43] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HzaDizjO
[22:43] <adam_____> anything in here that looks fishy?
[22:43] <adam_____> I still can't upgrade to 14.04
[22:44] <adam_____> there is an nvidea in there
[22:44] <adam_____> but I thought that would be disabled by disabling 3rd party sources on the update
[22:45] <Brutus> minimec: done, reboot and still the same
[22:45] <minimec> Brutus: ... or add that option to the other options?
[22:45] <adam_____> there is an nvidea in there
[22:45] <Brutus> takes a while before I can pin ganything
[22:45] <Brutus> can do that as well
[22:45] <Brutus> one moment
[22:45] <adam_____> Bray90820: is that you, Tim?
[22:46] <Bray90820> adam_____: what did i do?
[22:46] <adam_____> lol.. nothing
[22:46] <Bray90820> adam_____: why did you ping me
[22:47] <adam_____> just wondering if it's you
[22:47] <xangua> adam_____: did you run ppa-purge against all third party repository you have as you were told?
[22:47] <adam_____> you were trying trusty earlier
[22:47] <Bray90820> adam_____: If what is me
[22:47] <trism> adam_____: you might want to purge cinnamon, that's gone in 14.04, could be breaking on newer libs
[22:47] <minimec> Brutus: Well I guess that is all I can do for you. You know the mechanism now, how to put some driver options for a driver. Maybe search the for other options like 'e1000 /etc/modrobe.d/ options'. Arch and gentoo forums are a good source besides the ubuntu forums.
[22:48] <adam_____> Bray90820: wondering if you're Tim Bray
[22:48] <Bray90820> My name is Aaron
[22:48] <adam_____> trism: that's my next try
[22:48] <OerHeks> xangua, he had so many ppa's, i wonder if ppapurge could handle that, reverse to original packages
[22:48] <Bray90820> adam_____: my name is Aaron not Tim
[22:49] <Brutus> would it help buying a better network card?
[22:49] <adam_____> Bray90820: no worries.. thought it would be an odd coincidence if it was
[22:49] <cnnx> I would like ubuntu users to check out my site http://www.freemysql.org if you are new to linux and databases.
[22:49] <Bray90820> Ok
[22:50] <cnnx> ubuntu is what i usually recommend to new linux users
[22:50] <adam_____> ...zapping cinnamon
[22:51] <adam_____> ouch
[22:51] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MKoiPfkn
[22:51] <cnnx> adam_____: what service is that?
[22:51] <adam_____> cinamon doesn't want to go
[22:51] <minimec> Brutus: it surely does, but verify linux support :)
[22:51] <Brutus> i will
[22:51] <Brutus> thanks for the help minimec
[22:51] <adam_____> cnnx: ?
[22:52] <minimec> Brutus: No problem.
[22:53] <tannerstirrat> hey all
[22:54] <johnja> aptitude was able to make my interrupted upgrade from Ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 complete.  There seem to be some missing parts.  I no longer have a Gnome session (I can deal with that later) but I have no network connection.
[22:55] <johnja> I have been using the onboard wired ethernet provided by my (possibly broken) ASRock 990FX Extreme3 as eth0.  I now don't seem to have an eth0.  Is this a software issue or a hardware issue?
[22:56] <Tunix> johnja: what sais "lspci"?
[22:56] <Tunix> does your nic appear there?
[22:57] <tylerburtonca> So I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and cannot get it to auto-login my account. I've noticed that if I create a second, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?
[22:58] <johnja> lspci finishes off by telling me I have Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57781 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
[22:58] <Tunix> ok, hardware is responding, try something like "ifconfig eth0 up"
[22:58] <Tunix> as root
[22:58] <SKELETR0N> why does watching videos or css3 animations in firefox peg my cpu usage at 100%
[22:59] <johnja> eth0 ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[22:59] <johnja> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[22:59] <Tunix> strange
[23:00] <adam_____> cinamon was the problem
[23:00] <sig357> Does anyone know the status of Cinnamon for 14.04?
[23:00] <adam_____> if you want an easy upgrade to 14.04, get rid of cinamon
[23:00] <toothe> Hi, how do I upgrade my installation of python and python-twisted?
[23:00] <adam_____> thanks for the help everyone
[23:01] <sig357> I apologize if came late to an already discussed topic.
[23:01] <sig357> I did a clean instal
[23:01] <SKELETR0N> i tried to do the update but it said i had apt-get open and it couldnt continue.. on a fresh boot :\
[23:01] <Tunix> johnja: does "lsmod | grep tg3" output something?
[23:01] <adam_____> got rid of kde dependent stuff just in case and it zapped a whole bunch of stuff
[23:01] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DHU9VFJT
[23:02] <adam_____> got rid of my digicam and hugin :/
[23:02] <causative> hey i just gotta say compiz annotations are pretty neat
[23:02] <toothe> how do I upgrade the version of python and twisted installed on my box?
[23:02] <johnja> Tunix: yes
[23:02] <causative> you can just draw on the screen anywhere, put notes or reminders for yourself
[23:02] <johnja> tg3             166442  0
[23:03] <johnja> ptp                    18933  1 tg3
[23:03] <causative> I only wish the eraser was a clean eraser instead of a spraycan eraser
[23:03] <Tunix> johnja: does "dmesg | grep -i tg3" output something?
[23:04] <minimec> johnja: Did you try software&updates GUI and check for additional drivers. There seem to be a driver provided by Broadcom... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2020496.html
[23:04] <Scar3cr0w> and why no 256 color capable terminal as default yet?
[23:05] <toothe> how do I upgrade twisted? I'm still using a very dated version.
[23:05] <Tunix> minimec: is Broadcom still that secretive regarding their specs?
[23:06] <johnja> minimec: no, I'm currently without any network connectivity on this machine.
[23:06] <minimec> Tunix: Let's say it like this. I never understood why they use a bradcom chip in the raspberry pi... ;)
[23:07] <tylerburtonca> anyone had any luck getting autologin to work with the primary account (the one setup during installation)?
[23:07] <johnja> minimec: if I don't neet network for that, please give me instructions in as much detail as possible.  I'm in an xubuntu desktop and not used to it.
[23:07] <Tunix> it could be worse...realtek anyone? ;) (those nics work on linux, though)
[23:07] <causative> I'm using compiz annotations to just draw on my screen which terminal windows are what
[23:07] <causative> so I can find them again easily
[23:07] <minimec> johnja: You may be able to do the check even without network connection. You would at least know, if there is a driver available...
[23:08] <adam_____> ok.. doing the upgrade
[23:08] <adam_____> I'll add my missing stuff again after
[23:08] <lasindi> Hi all, I just upgraded to 14.04 and the launch bar doesn't display the number of windows correctly. For example, if I start Firefox and then open a new window (for two total windows), there is only one white "tick" mark to the left of the firefox icon. If I then click on the firefox icon the two windows are shown and two ticks appear. If I select a window for focus and then close it, the two ticks are still there. Anyone else have this problem or a know
[23:08] <lasindi>  a solution?
[23:09] <OerHeks> toothe, ubuntu 14.04 got 13.2.0 http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/python-twisted looks pretty recent
[23:09] <toothe> heh, I'm there right now :-)
[23:09] <toothe> I guess I don't know how to translate that into an apt-get command.
[23:10] <tylerburtonca> So I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and cannot get it to auto-login my account. I've noticed that if I create a second account, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary (first created) account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?
[23:10] <OerHeks> toothe, compared with http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/Downloads
[23:10] <johnja> minimec:  I would like to try it, but don't understand how to do it.
[23:10]  * Tunix is sipping from his third cocktail, is actually quite fun following this channel :P
[23:10] <ziew> hi, how to check if my laptop is 64 or 32bit - to know which version of linux to install?
[23:10] <adam_____> ugh.. this download will take 1 day and 17 hours
[23:11] <adam_____> is there a better way to get this upgrade done faster?
[23:11] <Michael87> so I did a strait distro upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 with plans to do a clean install later. For the most part it runs fine but since upgrade its frozen on me like 5 times today. is this 14.04 itself or becuase I did the distro upgrade?
[23:11] <bekks> adam_____: essentially no.
[23:11] <tylerburtonca> ziew, do you know which CPU model you have?
[23:11] <Tunix> adam_____: try using a mirror near you?
[23:11] <adam_____> wow.. pretty crazy
[23:11] <minimec> johnja: Go to the system settings -> Software&updates. Check the additional drivers tab...
[23:11] <Tunix> adam_____: or upgrade your downlink ;)
[23:11] <adam_____> Tunix: in hawaii right now
[23:11] <ziew> tylerburtonca: dont know that (my laptop is ~3years old)
[23:12] <adam_____> at the mercy of the router here at the condo :)
[23:12] <OerHeks> adam_____, type less, save bandwith
[23:12] <tylerburtonca> ziew, based on the age you very likely have a 64-bit processor. Which OS do you currently have installed?
[23:12] <zube> I just downloaded the latest ubuntu.  Haven't used Ubuntu for a while, and can not for the life of me work out how to get a terminal open
[23:12] <adam_____> har har
[23:12] <zube> anyone know?
[23:12] <tylerburtonca> zube, Ctrl+Alt+T
[23:12] <ziew> tylerburtonca: kubuntu 14.04 32bit
[23:12] <leuApodo2> hi everyone
[23:12] <leurian> hi all
[23:13] <zube> thanks tylerburtonca
[23:13] <ziew> tylerburtonca: but it runs quite slow so i startet to think why...
[23:13] <Tunix> zube: Ctrl-T
[23:13] <johnja> minimec:  This only lists display drivers, nothing for ethernet.
[23:13] <Tunix> oops cttl-alt-t is, thanks tylerburtonca
[23:14] <drakeymcd> Hey if anybody is nice enough to help me with an issue can you please help me? im trying to boot Ubuntu from GRUB 2.0 but i honestly dont know what to do xD
[23:14] <tylerburtonca> ziew, apparently if you run "grep flags /proc/cpuinfo" without quotes and it says "lm" (long mode) that is an indicator of 64bit CPU
[23:15] <ziew> tylerburtonca: it says "lm" amongst others, "tm" is also there
[23:15] <adam_____> "do-release-upgrade" or "do-release-upgrade -d"?
[23:15] <Michael87> I just now did the hotcorner option that I get with unity tweak tool and it stuck in the spreadsheet window.   How much RAM does your system have?
[23:16] <ziew> tylerburtonca: 4GB od RAM
[23:16] <minimec> johnja: So nothing available for your Card... The broadcom site might help for a driver. I guess I cannot help you further. http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netlink_k57.php
[23:17] <ziew> tylerburtonca: will 64 kubuntu 14.04. work faster than 32bit?
[23:17] <Michael87> so I did a strait distro upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 with plans to do a clean install later. For the most part it runs fine but since upgrade its frozen on me like 5 times today. is this 14.04 itself or becuase I did the distro upgrade?
[23:17] <minimec> johnja: There is indeed a tg3 driver for linux...
[23:18] <Tunix> Due to force of habit I have upgraded all my boxes via "apt-get dist-upgrade". Don't know what "do-release-upgrade" does better...
[23:19] <adam_____> did it without the developer option
[23:19] <Drummit> Hey all....having trouble installing conky-manager.  Terminal says it cant be found?  I tried the conky irc, but is dead...
[23:19] <tylerburtonca> ziew, its hard to say. Depending on the CPU chip 64bit *can* be faster but its not a sure thing. Also something to keep in mind is that running 64bit programs will use slightly more memory and may require more trips to RAM as a result (its very technical but I'm trying to make it as simple as possible). Long-story short YMMV
[23:19] <Leo_Verto> how do I install mono on 14.04?
[23:19] <adam_____> It'll do it's thing over the next 2 days I guess
[23:20] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: best to build it
[23:20] <Leo_Verto> mkay
[23:20] <Leo_Verto> thanks, I'll try that then
[23:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Tunix: do-release-upgrade upgrades Ubuntu to the next version.
[23:20] <Leo_Verto> assuming I'm able to resolve this dual-boot situation
[23:20] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: mono is always updating stuff, so better to be able to work off the source for it
[23:21] <Tunix> SonikkuAmerica: so does apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:21] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: why do you need dual boot? I'm running Windows in virtualbox with no issues
[23:21] <SonikkuAmerica> !dist-upgrade | Tunix, I beg to differ
[23:21] <Leo_Verto> adam_____, I installed Windows first and use both OSes actively
[23:21] <tylerburtonca> Leo_Verto, you may also be able to just install mono-runtime and have it pull in the rest for you. Not sure which version ships with 14.04 though
[23:21] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: I use both as well
[23:22] <Tunix> that bot is wrong...14.04 it is ;)
[23:22] <adam_____> ubuntu is much better as base os
[23:22] <adam_____> had it the other way around before
[23:22] <tylerburtonca> Anyone able to get auto-login to work. I've noticed that if I create a second account, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary (first created during install) account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?
[23:22] <adam_____> folder shares work well, etc
[23:22] <adam_____> pass-through USB, etc
[23:23] <Leo_Verto> would you recommend virtualbox over vmware?
[23:23] <Tunix> i think i have to inspect do-release-upgrade's source to detect any REAL differences
[23:23] <adam_____> yes
[23:23] <minimec> Leo_Verto: I tend to vmware
[23:23] <ziew> tylerburtonca: i think i'll try to install 64bit ubuntu and figure out which one runs better
[23:23] <adam_____> I support free stuff and opensource if possible
[23:23] <adam_____> was meaning to switch to the linux one anyway
[23:24] <adam_____> for the last 2 years this set up has been golden
[23:24]  * Tunix looked at the unity-greeter source and cringed
[23:24] <ziew> btw. how to enable java in chromium? (i've installed java-7 already and it works with firefox, but not with chromium)
[23:24] <adam_____> the amount of reboots that windows forces, it's better for it to be in the vm
[23:25] <adam_____> it's really good to have both running
[23:25] <adam_____> I usually move over to ubuntu side to do git commands
[23:25] <adam_____> way quicker
[23:25] <adam_____> so best of both worlds if running side by side. Long deserted the dual boot thing
[23:26] <Leo_Verto> I used to have a dual-boot installation before, kinda broke my graphic drivers back then and used only win with linux in vms for a while
[23:26] <adam_____> although I'm actively moving to where I'm not using Windows at all
[23:26] <Leo_Verto> but 14.04 has made some pretty cool changes which made me go back to ubuntu again
[23:27] <Leo_Verto> Ubuntu One gone, automatic TRIM support and all those handy unity changes
[23:28] <jamesmcveity> I'm wondering if full disk encryption/LVM is best practice? I'm just trying to figure out what is most common.  I'm installing on a laptop.  Need to be able to share files with others.
[23:28] <adam_____> TRIM is just a cron job now :)
[23:28] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: think about the fact that you don't need to defrag
[23:29] <adam_____> I also like xubuntu
[23:29] <Leo_Verto> I got my SSD only recently
[23:29] <Tunix> Ubuntu One was way too slow anyway
[23:29] <Leo_Verto> but this setup is pretty nice, except for that orphaned mint installation I found today
[23:29] <minimec> jamesmcveity: There was an article on www.phoronix.com recently. Full encryption is much better than only encryption of the /home partition. Much better performance.
[23:29] <tylerburtonca> ziew, good luck!
[23:29] <adam_____> used xubuntu on one of my other machines.. very nice although didn't have some of the window stapping shortcuts I wanted
[23:30] <tylerburtonca> jamesmcveity, what do you by "share files with others"?
[23:30] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: I highly recommend trying an all ubuntu install with Windows quaranteened to a VM
[23:30] <Tunix> adam_____: you can configure that pretty well
[23:30] <johnja> I decided to assume my 2 month old ASRock POS motherboard is dead and plugged in an old PCIe ethernet card.  This seems to work just fine.  What package do I need to install to get gnome back?
[23:30] <adam_____> you can snapshot, turn off network
[23:30] <Leo_Verto> adam_____, will probably do that the next time Windows requires a reinstallation
[23:31] <adam_____> really good for running iffy software
[23:31] <adam_____> windows is full of viruses
[23:31] <adam_____> speed boost is great too
[23:31] <adam_____> linux flies on modern hardware
[23:31] <ziew> tylerburtonca: thank you
[23:31] <jamesmcveity> tylerburtonca: I just what to make sure that if I create a file on an encrypted drive that the data will be editable on another user's system.
[23:32] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: I've never looked back.. being free of windows as the ultimate OS is amazing
[23:32] <AnthonyUK> Hi people, I was wondering should I stick with 12.04 for the while until more how to's come out as I'm finding it a struggle to get things working like vnc and shared folders with windows
[23:32] <Drummit> no advice on conky manager not installing?
[23:32] <jamesmcveity> minimec: Thanks. I'm tracking the article down.
[23:32] <euryale> guys i want to record my desktop as video, what software do u recommend for ubuntu?
[23:32] <Tunix> windows 8.x runs pretty smooth, too, but that metro stuff is awkward
[23:33] <OerHeks> !info recordmydesktop
[23:33] <Drummit> eurryale: simple screen recorder, vokoscreen, record my desktop
[23:33] <euryale> ok thank ubottu, will try.
[23:33] <tylerburtonca> jamesmcveity, once you've logged in and 'unlocked' the encryption its smart enough to know that any file you copy away from your PC (to a USB stick or whatever) should be copied without the encryption so you shouldn't have any trouble there
[23:33] <adam_____> Tunix: no deal.. giving up an OpenSource platform for no gains (in my view)
[23:34] <euryale> oh is this a command line program?
[23:35] <jamesmcveity> tylerburtonca: Thanks. I've always overlooked the option and I've been having troubling finding novice level info on why and how it works.
[23:35] <minimec> jamesmcveity: I am just digging it again. Just have a look on page 4 of the article for example ... ;) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1404_encryption&num=4
[23:36] <tylerburtonca> jamesmcveity, the easiest way, if perhaps not the most correct way, to think about it is that anything you configure to be encrypted when you configure the encryption will stay encrypted, but anything else (i.e. an external drive, an e-mail attachment, etc.) won't be
[23:36] <hesiodo> brand new trusty!
[23:36] <leurian_> hi everyonee!!
[23:37] <adam_____> hi
[23:37] <leurian> helo l!
[23:37] <Tunix> adam_____: i develop for windows during work time, for linux during free time
[23:37] <Drummit> hello
[23:37] <adam_____> Tunix: yep.. same
[23:37] <jamesmcveity> minimec: Great! thanks.
[23:37] <adam_____> but changing that asap
[23:37] <tylerburtonca> minimec, yeah that was a good article unfortunately for my home server I ended up just doing home directory encryption because I wanted it to autologin... which kind of defeats the purpose of encryption in the first place but whatever haha
[23:37] <adam_____> hence my vm for windows
[23:37] <adam_____> total PITA for how heavy the dev env is
[23:38] <minimec> tylerburtonca: It definitely does ;)
[23:38] <adam_____> #golang is a great gateway away from .net to linux
[23:38] <tylerburtonca> minimec, hey at least I get the swap encryption which I think gets a new key every boot
[23:38] <jamesmcveity> tylerburtonca, If you set a password for the disk encryption, is it also necessary to have the user login option as well?
[23:39] <adam_____> with intellij CE and golang plugin, it's the same experience as in VS
[23:39] <adam_____> but all on Linux
[23:39] <tylerburtonca> jamesmcveity, entirely up to you. At that point you have some options based on how you prefer things to be :)
[23:40] <mkeer> I just installed Ubuntu on a Thinkpad T540p. Facing many issues: Touchpad barely works (kind of shaky, can't right click or middle click)... Doesn't stay connected to wifi or can't connect to it. The boot selection menu doesn't let me boot into windows (I need to change BIOS options to switch back and forth)...
[23:40] <snadge> i just got kicked out of ubuntu-release-party and ubuntu+1 ... its like.. once a new ubuntu comes out.. theres all this love.. then no love :p
[23:40] <jamesmcveity> tylerburtonca, thanks.  Much appreciated.
[23:40] <tylerburtonca> jamesmcveity, np
[23:40] <k1l_> snadge: you will get used to it :)
[23:40] <jamesmcveity> minimec, thanks again.
[23:41] <glumetu> hello can i have back wine1.4 ?
[23:41] <minimec> tylerburtonca: I do not encrypt until now, but after having read the article... I might...
[23:41] <minimec> jamesmcveity: No problem.
[23:41] <crocket> I failed to upgrade ubuntu because PPA packages overrode ubuntu packages.
[23:41] <crocket> damn
[23:41] <k1l_> glumetu: install wine1.4 package
[23:41] <snadge> so the period of time between a stable release.. and the next release announce.. there's all these ubuntu addicts.. who are cast out onto the street.. homeless, with nowhere to go
[23:41] <snadge> :P
[23:42] <k1l_> snadge: we got #ubuntu-offtopic for that :)
[23:42] <Tunix> ppas and upgrades...fun...all night...
[23:42] <crocket> Should I manually install ubuntu 14.10 and reinstall packages?
[23:42] <edgardo> Hola Gente soy nuevo alguno habla español. soy de Argentina
[23:42] <k1l_> !ar | edgardo
[23:42] <adam_____> crocket: just dealt with that today
[23:42] <xtjacob> Does anyone have experience with bad packet loss on a ralink 5390? I'm running 14.04.
[23:42] <adam_____> need a hand?
[23:42] <crocket> adam_____, How did you do it?
[23:43] <adam_____> you can see the log
[23:43] <k1l_> crocket: use ppapurge to get rid of that ppas and packages. that will reinstall the oroginal ubuntu pakcages
[23:43] <tux_> good evening people so who is using 14.04 lts
[23:43] <k1l_> !ppapurge | crocket
[23:43] <k1l_> tux_: a lot of users are. but better ask a real support question :)
[23:44] <tylerburtonca> minimec, the performance impact is so little I don't see why not. Also on SSDs where the drive controller does automatic wear leveling if you ever don't use encryption you can't be 100% sure that you'll ever be able to override that old data.
[23:45] <Tunix> is the code name of 14.10 already out?
[23:45] <k1l_> Tunix: not that i am aware of
[23:46] <minimec> tylerburtonca: As I told you... I might ;) You're absolutely right... I have a Intel 240GB msata SSD in my Lenovo x230...
[23:46]  * Tunix favors Unuoccupied Unicorn
[23:46] <MHodge> Would anyone know what causes Ubuntu 14.04 to crash after waking?
[23:46] <k1l_> MHodge: best is to see the logs and not to guess :)
[23:47] <glumetu> k1l when i do apt-get install wine1.4 it installs 1.6
[23:47] <adam_____> crocket: i did it without ppa purge
[23:47] <SonikkuAmerica> glumetu: Umm... that's a good thing.
[23:47] <glumetu> it should be but it doesn;t work for me
[23:47] <SonikkuAmerica> !info wine
[23:47] <MHodge> I'll do that. :)
[23:47] <SonikkuAmerica> glumetu: And why not?
[23:48] <crocket> adam_____, How?
[23:48] <k1l_> glumetu: well yes, just saw it redirects to wine 1.6 in trustsy
[23:48] <minimec> MHodge: You might be able to check that yourself. Try to disable bluetooth & wifi for a try and then suspend. The two are often the source of problems. Also some USB devices like DVB cards might be the cause...
[23:48] <adam_____> crocket: do the install with "sudo do-release-update"
[23:48] <glumetu> let's say they did sommeting with connection and 1.6 doesn't let my app connect to internet
[23:48] <adam_____> it will error out after a bit
[23:49] <adam_____> press 'x' to exit
[23:49] <darkangel> how does 1 host a website with ubuntu 14.04
[23:49] <glumetu> i would like to stick with the old realy stable wine1.4
[23:49] <MHodge> I disable wifi and unfortunately I lost the drivers for my bluetooth. :(
[23:49] <AnthonyUK> anyone know of a guide/how to for shared folders on windows that will work in 14.04?
[23:49] <adam_____> then paste the output of "grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log" using pastebin
[23:50] <adam_____> We'll take a look and see if you have any fishy stuff installed
[23:50] <adam_____> we'll "sudo apt-get remove" them
[23:50] <crocket> adam_____, I have overriden graphics driver and some system packages.
[23:50] <crocket> adam_____, I think ppa-purge would be faster.
[23:50] <adam_____> ok
[23:51] <adam_____> then do that.. for me it was cinnamon
[23:51] <adam_____> if you don't purge and just remove, when you reinstall, the settings should still be there
[23:52] <adam_____> anyway.. it seemed ppa-purge wasn't enough for me
[23:52] <k1l_> well, cinnamon is put out of the debian and ubuntu repos.
[23:53] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l_: Cinnamon is gone? For good?
[23:53] <adam_____> there was a few others I removed
[23:53] <nf7> Could someone help me? I follow this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx , but my stick doesn't appear in the list of bootable devices when I boot my Mac. It will work on a regular PC though. And I am using the 14.04+Mac version of the iso.
[23:53] <adam_____> did a chunk of them by gettingrid of kde
[23:54] <trism> SonikkuAmerica: not for good it was moved to debian unstable, might see it in 14.10
[23:54] <k1l_> SonikkuAmerica: yep. mate is now in the repos, iirc
[23:54] <adam_____> need to reinstall a few things now
[23:54]  * minimec just wants to share his happiness with you. Playing and chatting on a Toshiba ac100 KitKat/14.04 dual boot. Thats an ARM/Tegra2 device with 512MB RAM! e17 is running really well. Cool little baby. OK... It's offtopic ;)
[23:54] <euryale> hi guys!
[23:54] <basketball> can i get google desktop version in ubuntu
[23:55] <euryale> installed the amd 13.4 driver in ubuntu
[23:55] <Tunix> minimec: grats
[23:55] <euryale> i got an error log. but havent read that because it needed to reboot, and so i did, but now can't login to gui.
[23:55] <glumetu> congratulation ubuntu team .. verry fast boot time
[23:55] <nf7> Can anyone help me with my Mac installation problem?
[23:55]  * adam_____ happy about never buying into the Apple hype
[23:55] <Tunix> e17 is strange though
[23:56] <tylerburtonca> Anyone able to get auto-login to work? I've noticed that if I create a second account, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary (first created during install) account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?
[23:56] <minimec> Tunix: The 'linux community' is just great. We use uboot instead of android fastboot now and I can use 3.14 or even 3.15 kernels on ubuntu. Android is stillon 3.1...
[23:56] <euryale> @Holstein. Can u help me remove the proprietary driver for amd?
[23:57] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, was the Auto Login enabled when you installed the OS?
[23:57] <minimec> euryale: sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[23:57] <glumetu> euryale you can do that from software center
[23:58] <euryale> im currently at tty, i have no access to desktop since intalling the amd driver.
[23:58] <minimec> euryale: maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' afterwards.
[23:58] <k1l_> euryale: did you try nomodeset?
[23:58] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, I don't believe I ever had the option
[23:58] <Tunix> fglrx brings up bad memories...
[23:58] <euryale> no i havent tried nomodeset.
[23:59] <euryale> maybe i'll just remove it to be safe, i don't want to reinstall ubuntu again.
[23:59] <MHodge> tylerburtonca: It should have been on the same page when you set up your computer name and password before installing.
[23:59] <minimec> I would even go further... AMD brings up bad memories...
[23:59] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, hmm well either way its installed now but the option is not there for that one particular account in Settings > Users
[23:59] <euryale> @minimec. after purging fglrx it will go back to default drivers?
[23:59] <minimec> euryale: Yes.