[11:28] <physicsnick> do it in a konsole in x
[11:28] <physicsnick> then you can switch to tty1 and login as root
[11:28] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Ok jump to terminal 1 and try log in
[11:28] <Genix|linux> anyone get shockwave working on edgy?
[11:28] <intelikey> ubuntu that's a linux console.   (tty1)   there are by default six consoles active on your computer, tty 1-6   the seventh is generally reserved for the X-window system  (xorg)  they are always active you can switch to them and login at anytime (the execption is single user mode) from the linux console you can do system mantainance or repairs,  or just run commands if you like.   (i use console/s exclusively, or almost)
[11:29] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i dont know how to login on a live cd
[11:29] <david_> intelikey: if you do use consoles a lot, make sure you look into framebuffer and get nicer fonts on it
[11:29] <physicsnick> on a live cd isn't the password just blank?
[11:29] <physicsnick> for username type ubuntu and password leave it blank?
[11:29] <DaSkreech> physicsnick: I don't think so
[11:29] <physicsnick> hmph
[11:29] <physicsnick> lemme google it
[11:29] <DaSkreech> physicsnick: Maybe
[11:29] <intelikey> david_ i'll take that into consideration...
[11:29] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: try what physicsnick just said
[11:30] <ubuntu> im logged in as ubuntu
[11:30] <intelikey> david_ maybe i'll ponder it while watching a vidio in tty 2
[11:30] <david_> teehee.
[11:30] <physicsnick> DaSkreech: if that doesn't work, then you can sudo without a password on the livecd, so just make a new user altogether
[11:31] <physicsnick> then you can login as that user on tty1
[11:31] <intelikey> yes the live cd automatically logs you in as ubuntu   use   sudo -i      to switch to root
[11:31] <david_> everyone goes though a phase of thinking wow most things are so much easier in a terminal. I'll do everything like this.
[11:31] <DaSkreech> physicsnick: You can sudp passwd ubuntu and make a new passwd
[11:31] <physicsnick> yep
[11:31] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: on the terminal?
[11:31] <physicsnick> that too
[11:31] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yes
[11:31] <david_> but you grow out of it after a month or two when you realise it doesn't work with everything
[11:31] <david_> terminal based use of the gimp being a prime example
[11:32] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Nice :-) Ok run the command irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[11:32] <DaSkreech> You should get a window
[11:32] <physicsnick> david_: yes, but some things are better done in the console regardless
[11:32] <intelikey> david_ gimp is a pointy/clicky/thingy   i have not need of such.
[11:32] <DaSkreech> type /nick <somename> there if you want to change your name
[11:32] <physicsnick> david_: for example, if you're trying to configure x, then you're better off using irssi in screen. so that if x breaks, or if you need to restart it, you don't need to log out of irc
[11:32] <DaSkreech> then type /join #kubuntu
[11:34] <DaSkreech> kkathman: Whats the http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/kwin/?rev=571711&view=rev About?
[11:34] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You can always jump back to here if you have issues
[11:34] <kkathman> ???
[11:34] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i dont knwo what happened
[11:35] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: what happened?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> kkathman: It's part of the changelog for kde3.5.5
[11:35] <ubuntu> it looked like an irc, but i couldnt type anything or see any others typing
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Doesn't make sense to me
[11:35] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Still logged in there?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Try Pressing Alt+2
[11:35] <ubuntu> yes
[11:35] <DaSkreech> What name did you use?
[11:36] <kkathman> no idea
[11:36] <intelikey> wasn't connected to a server  OR wasn't joined to a channel
[11:36] <ubuntu> i dont know
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Hmm Kwin accepts XShape1.1 now
[11:36] <kkathman> just upgraded.. brb.. re logging into kde
[11:36] <intelikey> use  /server irc.freenode.net
[11:36] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: type /nick and a name you want to use
[11:36] <ubuntu> oh ok, hang on
[11:36] <intelikey> also /join #kubuntu
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Hi kubuntu
[11:37] <kubuntu> DaSkreech: hi, i got it to work
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Ok :)
[11:37] <DaSkreech> You are in Irssi now?
[11:38] <kubuntu> DaSkreech: yes
[11:38] <DaSkreech> Ok Do you want me to explain it a litle more or are you comfortable?
[11:38] <_kkathman> kewl
[11:38] <kkathman> kde 3.5.5 done and done
[11:38] <kubuntu> explain what? *laughs* sorry, im still a fairly new linux user
[11:39] <DaSkreech> kubuntu: WHy you had to use Alt+2 for instance
[11:39] <Genix|linux> anyone know how i can get shockwave running?
[11:39] <DaSkreech> !shockwave
[11:39] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[11:39] <kubuntu> oh, no
[11:39] <Genix|linux> hmm
[11:40] <Genix|linux> !Wine
[11:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:40] <Genix|linux> !atm
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <DaSkreech> kubuntu: Ok So if you like you can reboot and when X fails you can login to Alt+Ctrl+F1 and use irssi to get here and use Alt+Ctrl+F2 to fix your computer :)
[11:40] <jarn> How can I make the clock not use 24-hour time?
[11:41] <DaSkreech> jarn: Righ Click _> Date and tiem Format
[11:41] <DaSkreech> Time
[11:41] <intelikey> set it to a/pm
[11:41] <kubuntu> ok, will do..going to reboot now
[11:41] <jarn> DaSkreech: I found that, but what do I set it to in there? The format?
[11:41] <Genix|linux> DaSkreech: you know if wine works on edgy and/or amd64?
[11:42] <jarn> DaSkreech: Oh wait, found it.
[11:42] <jarn> DaSkreech: Somehow I never noticed that dropdown box and was trying random type combinations. :P
[11:42] <jarn> DaSkreech: Thanks.
[11:42] <DaSkreech> Genix|linux: On Edgy yes. On AMD64 I don't know My very high suspicion would be yes
[11:42] <intelikey> Genix|linux no 64bit wine.   you can use a 32bit chrooted wine on a 64bit system
[11:42] <kkathman> has anyone installed Firefox 2 rc2 ??
[11:43] <kkathman> I guess not :(
[11:43] <kkathman> darn
[11:44] <Genix|linux> intelikey: i'm still a little new to this what is chrooted?
[11:44] <axel> !gnugadu
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnugadu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <intelikey> !chroot
[11:44] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:44] <Genix|linux> ok
[11:44] <Genix|linux> thanks
[11:44] <Genix|linux> i gotta learn to use these channel commands lol
[11:44] <arkady> kkathman: i've tried it
[11:44] <axel> !kadu
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kadu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <intelikey> !bot
[11:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:45] <axel> !temp
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about temp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <max__> DaSkreech: this is ubuntu/kubuntu
[11:45] <axel> !wine
[11:45] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:45] <DaSkreech> max__: Welcome
[11:46] <kkathman> arkady:  im tryingt properly configure mplayer to play embedded video from sites like CNN  or BBC... Had this working under suse with the mplayer plug in, but dont find where thats configred in FF2 rc2
[11:46] <DaSkreech> max__: Whats the error message X throws?>
[11:46] <kkathman> but that was with <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:46] <Novh> is there a similiar function to "calc" in Kubuntu
[11:46] <DaSkreech> Novh: Pres Alt+Space
[11:46] <DaSkreech> Type in what you want to know
[11:46] <Novh> ah, thx
[11:47] <DaSkreech> Novh: If you really want to know there is a app called speedcrunk
[11:47] <DaSkreech> Crunch
[11:47] <max__> DaSkreech:when i boot up i get two fails, RAID arrays and VLM volume groups, i try to do <startx> but it gives me an error, i asked my father and he said it was probably an xorg.conf error
[11:47] <DaSkreech> You can Press Alt+Space and type speed to get it
[11:47] <arkady> kkathman:  idon't know.. i've only tried it, i'm using konqueror and flock
[11:47] <kkathman> arkady:   flock??
[11:47] <tanubis> speedcrunch isn't bad
[11:48] <intelikey> LVM ?
[11:48] <DaSkreech> max__: Probably right. You have RAID now?
[11:48] <arkady> kkathman: yes, www.flock.com
[11:48] <max__> DaSkreech: i do not know what RAID is, im very new to linux
[11:48] <intelikey> no raid
[11:49] <kkathman> arkady:  ahh ok I'll check that out
[11:49] <kkathman> CNN seems to be stubborn about media playing :(
[11:49] <DaSkreech> max__: It's not Linux related perse but I think it's safe to say that you don't have it if you don't know what it is
[11:49] <max__> oh, ok
[11:49] <Novh> what is Katapult?
[11:49] <DaSkreech> When you do startx it gives you na error.. can you give us the error
[11:50] <arkady> kkathman: cnn works fine in konqueror for me
[11:50] <DaSkreech> intelikey: you!!!
[11:50] <max__> uumm, i dont know it offhand
[11:50] <DaSkreech> Novh: An application launcher
[11:50] <kkathman> arkady:  with flock?
[11:50] <DaSkreech> max__: Press Alt+Ctrl+F2 login and run startx
[11:50] <Novh> ah
[11:50] <Novh> cool
[11:50] <max__> ok, just a sec
[11:50] <DaSkreech> intelikey: how do you use pastebin from console?
[11:50] <Novh> well
[11:50] <intelikey> Novh or a machanical device for throwing things
[11:50] <Novh> =p
[11:50] <arkady> kkathman: with konqueror
[11:50] <intelikey> i use gpm
[11:51] <Novh> time to sleep
[11:51] <Novh> cya
[11:51] <kkathman> oh ok
[11:51] <intelikey> DaSkreech so it's same as from a gui for me
[11:51] <kkathman> arkady:  what media player do you have built in?
[11:51] <arkady> kkathman: in konqueror? kmplayer
[11:51] <kkathman> okie doke
[11:52] <kkathman> I'll give that a go
[11:52] <TheHighChild> anyone know of a way to put all my ebooks online and indexed?
[11:52] <intelikey> DaSkreech easiest way will be for him to   startx > errors 2>&1   then dcc you the results
[11:52] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[11:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:52] <intelikey> /dcc send DaSkreech errors
[11:52] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Assuming that DCC can reach me which I doubt :)
[11:52] <Frumpy> in kubuntu, mysql-4.0, i need to have root access to create a database.  sudo does not appear to work.  and there is no root in kubuntu ?
[11:53] <TheHighChild> Frumpy: sudo -i
[11:53] <intelikey> DaSkreech you got the default ports blocked
[11:53] <DaSkreech> intelikey: triple firewalled
[11:53] <max__> DaSkreech: Server error: no screens found     XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":o.o" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 evernts running~
[11:54] <intelikey> max__ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:54] <max__> will try that intelikey, be right back
[11:54] <intelikey> oh "on X server"  i misread as "no screens"
[11:55] <intelikey> nah disreguard last brain fart
[11:56] <DaSkreech> Bye
[11:56] <jonathan__> i hate this....why does printing have to always be so hard
[11:56] <Genix|linux> wow chroot is a little confusing lol
[11:56] <intelikey> hehhe screen scrolled just at the right time.... :)
[11:56] <kkathman> arkady:  forgot that kmplayer is needed rather than just mplayer :)
[11:57] <max__> intelikey: i tried that and i got the same error
[11:57] <intelikey> Genix|linux it is in a very basic way a vertual machine running in your system     a linux emulator running in linux if you will.    (not entirely accurate of course)
[11:57] <intelikey> max__ what did you set for default rezelution ?
[11:58] <Genix|linux> so i just run this chroot and it will open a terminal emulating an i386 linux system?
[11:58] <max__> 1024 by 7somthing
[11:58] <Genix|linux> then i dl wine and compile in this thing?
[11:58] <intelikey> max__ run it again with the switch -plow   appended    and on the monitor section don't choose the simple
[11:59] <max__> i chose advanceed
[11:59] <intelikey> ok and you do know your refresh rate
[11:59] <max__> but i will try that, be right back
[11:59] <max__> no i do not
[11:59] <intelikey> then how did you set it in the advanced settings ?
[12:00] <Genix|linux> intelikey is that right?
[12:00] <max__> it had all the settings already highlighted
[12:00] <max__> ill try again but not advanced, or simple
[12:00] <max__> brb
[12:01] <intelikey> Genix|linux that is the basic idea.  the concept   but as you said it's more complex than that.
[12:01] <Genix|linux> hmm
[12:01] <Genix|linux> ok
[12:01] <Genix|linux> let's hope i can figure this out
[12:01] <Genix|linux> still pretty much a linux n00b
[12:01] <Genix|linux> heh
[12:01] <max__> intelikey: framebuffer, yes or no?
[12:01] <Riddell> topicdiff: koffice 1.6 released
[12:02] <intelikey> no
[12:02] <josh_> !xgl
[12:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:03] <intelikey> i may be substituting advanced for expert in the monitor setup options....    (hmmmmm)
[12:03] <DaSkreech> !koffice
[12:03] <ubotu> Integrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-151.php
[12:04] <kkathman> I kinda tried XGL for a while on SUSE, and the initial effects are "cool" but personally I felt it was a still a bit buggy to use everyday :)
[12:04] <intelikey> are the listing "simple advanced expert" ?   if so max__ needs probably to use advanced
[12:04] <max__> they are like that
[12:04] <intelikey> k then pick advanced
[12:04] <max__> ok,
[12:04] <max__> framebuffer, yes or no?/
[12:05] <intelikey> no
[12:05] <kkathman> thats just my own personal experience with it...other may find it very helpful (the zoom feature is good for people that have failing eyesight, for instance)
[12:06] <intelikey> yeah i tried to install nvidia drivers here.... i couldn't get past the license...
[12:06] <max__> im sorry intelikey its simple, meduim, advanced
[12:06] <intelikey> meduim
[12:07] <max__> still the same error
[12:07] <intelikey> max__ if you say advanced you will have to supply your horizonal sync and vertical refresh rates for your monitor.
[12:07] <max__> i used medium
[12:07] <intelikey> max__ what vidio card ?
[12:08] <max__> im not sure, its an onboard video card
[12:08] <intelikey> lshw
[12:08] <otaku-san> hey lately when I'm going to upgrade these sources come up with an error deb.opera.com etch Release and  security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/(all of the Packs and Sources) and another one
[12:08] <intelikey> or  lshw | less    so you can scroll up and down in it
[12:08] <otaku-san> why?  Did the sources change?
[12:09] <max__> what is lshw?
[12:09] <intelikey> a command.
[12:09] <max__> type it in in a command?
[12:09] <intelikey> max__ type   lshw | less
[12:09] <max__> ok, brb
[12:09] <intelikey> and tell me what vidio card


[14:59] <ricotz> tjaalton, hey, capnproto is not multiarch and while libmir* depends on it is break mesa's multiarch installability
[15:22] <tjaalton> ricotz: ok, it's not owned by pkg-xorg though?
[15:24] <tjaalton> though it could be fixed in ubuntu
[15:24] <tjaalton> a bug report showing the issue would be nice


[09:23] <rmg51> Morning
[11:40] <icey> Ahoy
[12:12] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else


[14:41] <Bytor4232> Hey guys, I just reloaded my laptop, and wanted to know if I should be worried about the load_cycle issue that was out almost a year ago.
[16:11] <Bytor4232> Yup.  Apparently so.
[16:11] <Bytor4232> I applied this fix:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5031046&postcount=3
[16:12] <Bytor4232> I was getting 50 to 100 load cycles every five or 10 minutes.
[16:12] <Bytor4232> Now I'm getting about five or 10 on battery.
[16:12] <Bytor4232> None on AC


[01:14] <pikapika> yo wtf
[01:14] <pikapika> batter manager sometimes makes screen fully black darkness level when I mistakenly scroll too far over it
[01:14] <pikapika> battery
[01:14] <pikapika> is there any way to enforce a "minimum" brightness level?
[09:53] <frad> I upgraded to 20.04 64 bits and now there is no trash icon. What's the default behavior when I delet a file? Does it still go to the trash or does it get automatically erased?
[09:55] <diogenes_> frad, 'Delete' option removes the files for good.
[09:56] <frad> ok, pressing 'supr' nukes the file
[09:58] <frad> is there a default live usb maker packaged with xubuntu?
[10:01] <diogenes_> frad, if the disks is installed you can use it for usb writing.
[10:02]  * diogenes_ is not sure if gnome-disk-utility is there by default.
[10:03] <frad> do you mean   command 'diskd' from deb fdutils (5.5-20060227-8) diogenes_ ?
[10:05] <frad> yup
[10:07] <frad> wait
[10:07] <diogenes_> frad, in menu type: disks
[10:08] <frad> sudo apt install disks
[10:08] <frad> Reading package lists... Done E: Unable to locate package disks
[10:08] <frad> it may be disksd
[10:08] <frad> diskd*
[10:08] <diogenes_> sudo apt install gnome-disk-utility
[10:24] <vimart> It would be better do a fresh installation instead upgrade but you've done it already.
[10:43] <frad> vimart, is it always better to fresh install instead of upgrading?
[10:47] <brainwash> always? no
[10:49] <frad> so how do I choose?
[10:53] <brainwash> depends
[10:53] <brainwash> upgrading is the default route
[10:53] <brainwash> fresh install is a fallback
[10:54] <brainwash> ideally, you first create a backup and do the upgrade
[10:54] <brainwash> if it fails or does not give the expected result, you do a fresh install
[10:54] <brainwash> or revert back to the previous state
[10:55] <frad> got it
[10:55] <brainwash> not having to reinstall all the time is a big selling point of linux distributions after all
[10:55] <frad> brainwash, isn't the same with windows or mac?
[10:56] <brainwash> it is, but quite some people still live in the past :)
[10:56] <brainwash> where you had to reinstall windows 95 every few weeks
[10:57] <frad> ... who uses windows 95 nowadays?
[10:57] <frad> o
[10:57] <frad> sorry
[10:57] <brainwash> not nowadays, but some people still have that old mindset
[10:57] <brainwash> windows = reinstall often
[10:58] <brainwash> windows = many viruses and malware
[10:58] <brainwash> etc.
[10:59] <frad> lol, ok, I wasn't aware of that
[11:00] <vimart> It's kinda difficult to type in on my new Xubuntu 20.04 on my laptop because of Touchpad is there a way to switch it off while typing on keyboard?
[11:03] <brainwash> vimart: you don't have this switch? https://i.stack.imgur.com/pX6It.png
[11:04] <vimart> I looked for something like that in settings, I'll have a lookt at it now
[11:05] <vimart> well it appeared I had to change the device
[11:05] <vimart> to see Touchpad option
[11:05] <vimart> thanks brainwash
[11:05] <brainwash> nice
[13:24] <xu-irc52w> hi
[16:47] <deadrom> hi
[16:50] <deadrom> got adventurous and hooked a 3rd monitor to a radeon HD 7750 (7yrs old) on xubuntu 18.04, so far works but the desktop background in the third leaves window-drag-rubbish. who's my prime suspect, xfce, 18.04 or radeon driver? no big issue, just would like to solve
[20:39] <ejr> hi, so i've just done a fresh xubuntu install. i cannot shutdown or restart the machine, both options are greyed out. Logout isn't.
[20:39] <ejr> When I logout and get into my login manager, I also have no option to shutdown
[21:20] <tripelb> ejr didnt wait 2 mins.
[21:33] <deadrom> maybe found how to shutdown
[22:23] <frad> I have a hdd encrypted with luks. Id like to remove luks but keep the data. Is there an easier way than copying all data and reformatting the hdd?
[22:32] <tomreyn> frad: cryptsetup-reencrypt --decrypt
[22:32] <tomreyn> but certainly you'll want to ensure your backups are ingood shape before any such operations
[22:33] <frad> mmm...
[22:34] <frad> it would be wiser to copy data and nuke, less time wasted
[22:41] <exit70[m]> hey, does xubuntu support i686 from 20.04 and on?
[23:09] <Unit193> exit70[m]: Nope.
[23:10] <exit70[m]> k
[23:13] <Unit193> No Ubuntu flavor can, since the archive just isn't there.
[23:50] <jdwwatts> how do i back up all my files to a usb ?
[23:52] <Bashing-om> jdwwatts: I kinda prefer ' rsync ' for this function.
[23:54] <jdwwatts> I saw that . but didnt try it do downlaod and install it an then it will do the saving of files ?
[23:59] <Bashing-om> jdwwatts: Verry versitile - and comes with a learning curve to be surmounted. Gets the job done ricky Tic.


[09:21] <LjL> no, i meant, having KDE running without having it installed :P
[09:21] <intelikey> if you wanted.....    :)
[09:21] <intelikey> LjL that's it right there.
[09:21] <intelikey> it's running now remove it.
[09:22] <fdoving> try to start a new kmail session then :)
[09:22] <LjL> uhm, well, yeah, i suppose it would probably keep working for a good 5 minutes admittedly...
[09:22] <khirr> guys
[09:22] <intelikey> until you logout you have it running   but then it's not there to restart.
[09:22] <_Shade_> can i install kubuntu from iso image only?
[09:22] <khirr> i have AMD64 procesor, but, i dunno if i should use kubuntu 64 o 32, what should i do?
[09:22] <LjL> _Shade_: with something like VMWare, possibly
[09:23] <LjL> khirr: if you don't know, then i'd say just use 32
[09:23] <intelikey> been over an hour LjL
[09:23] <fdoving> khirr: go for 32.
[09:23] <khirr> but, what is the diference?
[09:23] <_Shade_> LjL: can't I just unpack the image and then point grub to it ?
[09:23] <trappist> khirr: a lot of 32bit-only stuff like flash and win32 codecs won't work in 64bit mode
[09:23] <trappist> without a bit of work
[09:23] <LjL> khirr: that 64 will run a bit faster (reportedly), however there are things (especially some proprietary packages) that won't run
[09:24] <khirr> uhmmm
[09:24] <LjL> _Shade_: uhm, i don't know if Grub is that smart... but i don't think so
[09:24] <khirr> there isnt problem if i use 32 bi version?
[09:24] <LjL> khirr: no
[09:24] <LjL> khirr: 64-bit x86 processors are backwards compatibly with 32-bit
[09:24] <LjL> compatible even
[09:25] <intelikey> what's the differance in 32 bit and 64 bit.... ah one digit of binary code.....    ;/
[09:25] <khirr> i feel that 32 bit version is inestable comprate with 64 bit version
[09:25] <Sourcey> I'm trying to install my wireless drivers, but I get errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26186/
[09:25] <Sourcey> Could anyone help me out?
[09:25] <LjL> khirr: that might be, but i would find it strange...
[09:25] <_Shade_> LjL: it could be. Some distros launches with grub on their livecd
[09:26] <fdoving> _Shade_: you can make grub boot isos,yes.
[09:26] <khirr> tell me some package that wont run on 64 bit version
[09:26] <LjL> _Shade_: yeah, but then it's actually a CD, and not a CD *image* stuffed (with fragmentation and all, perhaps) onto a random (possibly NTFS) filesystem
[09:26] <trappist> khirr: flash, wine, java plugin
[09:26] <khirr> omg
[09:26] <intelikey> after all there are 10 kinds of people in the world.
[09:26] <khirr> but, i cant run flash sice 32 bit verion :(
[09:26] <_Shade_> fdoving: so how can i do it?
[09:27] <intelikey> those that understand binary and those that dont
[09:27] <MuJ> those who know binary and those whot don't?
[09:27] <trappist> intelikey: those who understan
[09:27] <trappist> yeah
[09:27] <LjL> khirr: you can't run the *most recent* windows version of flash, but you *can* run flash 7, from what i've read here before
[09:27] <khirr> :O
[09:27] <khirr> omg
[09:27] <trappist> LjL: not on amd64, without running 32bit firefox
[09:27] <khirr> i killed my OS
[09:27] <khirr> dont run
[09:27] <khirr> :(
[09:28] <LjL> intelikey: nah, there are ..--- kinds of people in the world
[09:28] <fdoving> _Shade_: don't know, but i'm sure i've read about it somewhere.
[09:28] <intelikey> LjL that's what i said
[09:28] <Arlington> !fat
[09:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:28] <LjL> trappist: eh, yeah, that's what i was saying -- that *on 32 bit*, you can run flash, albait an older version than the one you can have on windows
[09:28] <_Shade_> fdoving: me either but i can't find it now
[09:28] <LjL> intelikey: was it?
[09:28] <_Shade_> !grub isos
[09:28] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[09:29] <khirr> ?
[09:29] <intelikey> all in how you read it i guess....
[09:29] <LjL> intelikey, that was not binary (albeit a kind of binary code, yeah) :P
[09:30] <intelikey> moras  ?
[09:30] <intelikey> errr <!sp> morris
[09:31] <LjL> intelikey: for that matter, you could say that there are 49 and 48 kinds of people in the world
[09:31] <intelikey> oh stay out of key codes....
[09:31] <intelikey> yuch
[09:31] <fdoving> _Shade_: maybe you can adopt some of this info: http://wiki.lunar-linux.org/index.php/Installation:No_CD
[09:31] <_Shade_> fdoving: thanks a lot
[09:32] <intelikey> LjL or even   0x02 0x82 && 0x0b 0x8b
[09:33] <LjL> intelikey: exactly
[09:33] <intelikey> like i said  "yuch"
[09:37] <intelikey> i wish kde didn't depend on py
[09:39] <raich> my GL screensavers won't load
[09:39] <nick01> hi Hawkwind :)
[09:39] <trappist> raich: glxinfo | grep rendering
[09:39] <nick01> Hawkwind: do u have mandriva running in vmware now ?
[09:39] <raich> trappist: direct rendering: yes
[09:40] <trappist> raich: when you say "won't load", do you mean xscreensaver doesn't start, or you get like a blank screen, or what?
[09:40] <Hawkwind> nick01: This probably isn't the place to be asking about Mandriva stuff
[09:40] <nick01> Hawkwind: #lfd ?
[09:40] <Hawkwind> nick01: I have it installed in vmware, not running it at the moment
[09:41] <intelikey> hehhe   glxinfo | tac
[09:41] <raich> trappist: when i select them and try to "test", nothing happens ans sometimes when the time has elapsed, the screen sits there, no screensaver
[09:41] <DaSkreech> When did KDe start depending on python?
[09:41] <intelikey> DaSkreech i don't know when.  but it does
[09:41] <DaSkreech> Sure?
[09:43] <raich> do you know how to fix it?
[09:47] <raich> do you know how to fix it?
[09:47] <trappist> raich: no, but I think I saw a bug on malone that fits the description
[09:48] <raich> malone?
[09:49] <fdoving> !bugs
[09:49] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[09:49] <fdoving> !malone
[09:49] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[09:50] <fdoving> raich: malone is the website that manages bugs for ubuntu. it's basically http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[09:50] <raich> ok ty
[09:57] <ubuntu> could someone tell me how I can watch trailers from quicktime using the live cd
[09:57] <ubuntu> can someone please help me
[09:57] <fdoving> !at
[09:57] <fdoving> ehm.
[09:57] <ubotu> at: Delayed job execution and batch processing. In component main, is standard. Version 3.1.9ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:58] <cgeo> is there any way that i can install AIGLX in kubuntu without installing gnome libraries???
[09:58] <fdoving> ubuntu: you need to install codecs.
[09:58] <fdoving> !codecs > ubuntu
[10:04] <felixjet> where can i dl the libsdl-net ? i got it corrupt and now i cant use apt-get
[10:04] <scott_w|lappy> yo, i've got a bit of a problem getting flash to work
[10:04] <scott_w|lappy> simply put, it hates me
[10:04] <fdoving> felixjet: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <scott_w|lappy> i've tried installing the version from adept but that doesn't work
[10:05] <scott_w|lappy> is it just konqueror or is the flash package broken?
[10:05] <SeanTater> scott_w|lappy: did you install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:05] <scott_w|lappy> yes
[10:05] <SeanTater> scott_w|lappy: neither
[10:05] <SeanTater> scott_w|lappy: konqueror needs a but of setup for it to work
[10:05] <felixjet> fdoving: but it dl corrupt
[10:06] <scott_w|lappy> SeanTater: linkage to somewhere?
[10:06] <SeanTater> scott_w|lappy: go to konqueror -> settings -> configure Konqueror -> plugins -> scan for new plugins, then click OK
[10:06] <cgeo> is there any way that i can install AIGLX in kubuntu without installing gnome libraries???
[10:07] <DaSkreech> Yes
[10:07] <DaSkreech> You just can't use it :)
[10:08] <cgeo> hhmmmm yeah i thought of that :) Just wanted to show off a little bit
[10:08] <Buchinho> hi
[10:09] <Buchinho> kann mir jemand den unterschied zwischen einem compiler und einem interpreter sagen?
[10:09] <DaSkreech> !de
[10:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:09] <Buchinho> oh i'm sorry
[10:09] <SeanTater> Buchinho: english!
[10:09] <Buchinho> i know this is off topic
[10:09] <DaSkreech> !o-t
[10:09] <SeanTater> !offtopic
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about o-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:09] <DaSkreech> Damn ;-)
[10:10] <Buchinho> jeeez
[10:10] <SeanTater> Buchinho: tehre is #ubuntu-offoptic too
[10:11] <ubuntu> hello
[10:11] <piccololinux> dato che a scuola abbiamo la rete lan io nn sono riuscito a connettermi alla rete con il portatile help
[10:11] <ubuntu> i have a problem installing kubuntu on my laptop
[10:12] <abattoir> !it
[10:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:12] <abattoir> piccololinux: ^^^^
[10:12] <piccololinux> ok
[10:12] <ubuntu> i have an acer aspire 1692 WLMi
[10:12] <ubuntu> and when i start the cd.. after loading everything i get a black screen.. my screen is turned of
[10:12] <ubuntu> off*
[10:13] <bastiq> what's the name of ati's driver?
[10:13] <ubuntu> my graphics card is an ATI radeon X700
[10:13] <bastiq> the name i should use for it in xorg
[10:13] <abattoir> bastiq: fglrx ?
[10:13] <bastiq> thx! :)
[10:13] <abattoir> ubuntu: have you tried booting in the 'Safe mode' ?
[10:13] <ubuntu> yes
[10:14] <intelikey> !ati
[10:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:14] <ubuntu> it gets stuck at some point when loading..
[10:14] <jhutchins_wk> !codecs
[10:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:15] <ubuntu> it doesnt get to the point where the live cd is fully loaded and i can actuallu try or install ubuntu
[10:15] <ubuntu> so what should i do?
[10:15] <ubuntu> people said i should edit some sort of a configuration file so that it doesnt turn off my screen
[10:16] <ubuntu> how do i do that?
[10:16] <DaSkreech> !editor
[10:16] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[10:16] <abattoir> ubuntu: is only your screen turned off? are you sure?
[10:16] <abattoir> ubuntu: or is it frozen at a particular point?
[10:17] <ubuntu> no turned off completely
[10:17] <ubuntu> cuz when i press the power button afterwards
[10:17] <ubuntu> the screen is turned on
[10:17] <ubuntu> and it starts unloading everythign
[10:17] <ubuntu> everything*
[10:18] <abattoir> ubuntu: ok, you might need to use a special boot parameter when booting the live cd
[10:18] <ubuntu> which is?
[10:19] <abattoir> ubuntu: press F6 in the boot menu
[10:19] <ubuntu> ok
[10:19] <ubuntu> and then?
[10:19] <lupine_85> !ksvtg
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksvtg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <abattoir> ugh, wait, let me type :P
[10:19] <lupine_85> !ksvg
[10:19] <ubotu> ksvg: SVG viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1149 kB, installed size 4028 kB
[10:20] <bluch> !webcam
[10:20] <abattoir> ubuntu: linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false
[10:20] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:21] <ubuntu> and that should solve my problem?
[10:21] <abattoir> ubuntu: i think so
[10:21] <ubuntu> sometimes when i press F6 there's a line of commands already there.. just right that next to it?
[10:22] <abattoir> ubuntu: i dont have a live cd qemu image handy, so am not sure if 'linux' has been changed to 'install'
[10:22] <ubuntu> ok can try install if linux doesnt work
[10:22] <ubuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire1692WLMi?highlight=%28aspire%29
[10:22] <ubuntu> can you check this link please?
[10:22] <ubuntu> it describes my problem
[10:23] <ubuntu> how can i edit whats displayed down there at the bottom of the page
[10:23] <abattoir> ubuntu: you said safe boot doesnt work for you, right?
[10:24] <ubuntu> yes
[10:24] <abattoir> ubuntu: you'd need a launchpad a/c, and then click on Edit at the top of the page
[10:24] <ubuntu> launchpad a/c?
[10:24] <abattoir> launchpad.net
[10:24] <abattoir> http://www.launchpad.net
[10:24] <abattoir> !launchpad
[10:25] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:25] <ubuntu> ok thank you so much
[10:25] <ubuntu> i'll go try that now
[10:25] <ubuntu> the command line you gave me
[10:32] <pike__> what is equivalent of usleep ? i need to make something sleep for like 2000 microseconds..
[10:34] <nico> hi
[10:34] <nico> wie fahr ich meinen rechner nach einer bestimmten zeit runter ?
[10:35] <lupine_85> !de
[10:35] <lupine_85> ?
[10:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:35] <fdoving> pike__: can't you use 'sleep 0.01' and so on?
[10:35] <nebi> can i install driver for dwl-g122 usb wifi in kubuntu?
[10:35] <lupine_85> nebi: revision b1 or c1 ?
[10:35] <nebi> revicion c1
[10:36] <lupine_85> that's an rt73 chip then
[10:36] <lupine_85> see http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[10:36] <nebi> when i can download this driver please?
[10:36] <lupine_85> or update to edgy, which has the drivers out of the box ;)
[10:36] <lupine_85> right now, from there
[10:36] <lupine_85> ever compiled your own kernel module?
[10:38] <nebi> sorry, version  Latest BETA rt2570 driver: v1.1.0-b2
[10:39] <lupine_85> you don't want that
[10:39] <lupine_85> it's the wrong oner
[10:39] <lupine_85> use the rt2x00 driver
[10:39] <lupine_85> rt2570 is the b1 revision of the hardware
[10:41] <bastiq> how do i reconfigure my xorg file?
[10:41] <bastiq> i'm on a ati
[10:42] <cpk2> bastiq: you can edit it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:42] <bastiq> yea, but i think it's beyond manual repair :P
[10:42] <cpk2> or if you want I guess dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not really sure what you are asking
[10:43] <cpk2> as sudo
[10:43] <bastiq> thanks, i'll try it
[10:43] <nebi> ok a have the driver , i cant copilate de driver how?
[10:45] <nebi> i open the console in directory i make install?
[10:45] <lupine_85> first run sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[10:45] <lupine_85> that'll get all the essentiall stuff that you need
[10:45] <lupine_85> in the directory run make && sudo make install
[10:45] <lupine_85> but the make install is probably broken, in which case copy *.ko into /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/extra
[10:46] <intelikey> i read that uuoc one time.  unless it's changed there is an error in the examples.  namely;  `ls *` != *
[10:46] <nebi> ok i install sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[10:47] <lupine_85> using apt-get, yes
[10:47] <nebi> ok installed sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[10:48] <lupine_85> ok, now open a terminal; cd into the directory; run "make"
[10:49] <wildchild> !c++
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <josh_> !mp3
[10:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:50] <nebi> ok all installed with make
[10:50] <bastiq> there is something wrong with mu acpi so i can't update the kernel to match the driver version!
[10:50] <bastiq> i think...
[10:50] <bastiq> damn i'm bright :P
[10:51] <bastiq> and i don't even know what acpi is
[10:51] <zorglu_> too bright for that :)
[10:51] <bastiq> yup, it's too low-tech :P
[10:51] <bastiq> well, anyone got an ida of how to fix it?
[10:52] <zorglu_> well unfortunatly your bright report doesnt make much sense :)
[10:52] <nebi> lupine_85 ?
[10:52] <lupine_85> yep
[10:52] <zorglu_> bastiq: acpi can't prevent you from updating a kernel, nor need a special driker :)
[10:53] <nebi> all make installed
[10:53] <zorglu_> driver
[10:53] <bastiq> Hmm... well. Something is wrong since i can't get the 2.6.17 kernel
[10:53] <lupine_85> ok, and if you run "sudo depmod -a" followed by "sudop modprobe 80211 && sudo modprobe rate_control && sudo modprobe rt73" what happens?
[10:53] <bastiq> and it complains of acpi when i try to update it
[10:55] <bastiq> lupine_85: me?
[10:55] <anders0> I have af major problem installing edgy, is this the right place to ask for help?
[10:55] <lupine_85> erm, s/sudop/sudo/
[10:55] <lupine_85> no, nebi
[10:55] <bastiq> anders0: I guess
[10:55] <anders0> 1. The Desktop cd dosnt work, the display fails and i cant get a commandline
[10:56] <anders0> So i get the alternate cd
[10:56] <|lostbyte|x> !kubuntu+1
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <lupine_85> just #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <lupine_85> kubuntu+1 users in there too
[10:56] <lupine_85> incl. me :)
[10:57] <anders0> and i get 94% through "Select and install software", and it stops at "Configuring language-support-en"
[10:57] <arepie> is it possible for me install ATI driver without an error?
[10:57] <anders0> and its completly frozen, no ctrl+alt+f2
[10:57] <bastiq> anders0: Well, i would just wait for the proper release. I guess there's not too muck to do about it if it's the cd. At least not that i know of
[10:58] <nebi> lupine_85
[10:58] <lupine_85> ?
[10:58] <anders0> seems kind of weird that no one would have noticed in knot1-3 :s
[10:58] <nebi> i have all installed from make?
[10:58] <bastiq> maybe it's your cd thats broken
[10:58] <lupine_85> probably not
[10:58] <bastiq> try to download the iso again and burn it on a slow speed
[10:58] <lupine_85> it's designed for fedora
[10:58] <anders0> and the cd check fails, i tried burning it twice.. once from windows, and once from mac with a new iso
[10:59] <lupine_85> just copy the .ko files into /lib/modules/(your-kernel-here)/extra
[10:59] <anders0> excatly same results
[10:59] <lupine_85> then run sudo depmod -a
[10:59] <jdawiz> can I ask if there is a converter from .3g2 to another format here.  I have been looking but haven't had much luck
[10:59] <lupine_85> make the dir if needed
[10:59] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: Any fluxbuntu+1 users?
[11:00] <lupine_85> probably not ;)
[11:00] <bastiq> anders0: What happens if you install dapper and upgrade it?
[11:00] <anders0> guess i could try finding my old cd
[11:00] <anders0> but that Desktop cd didnt work either, im REALLY unlucky with my linux installs
[11:01] <anders0> no matter what distro :)
[11:01] <josh_> is there a package i can install to ghost a drive to another drive
[11:01] <bastiq> Maybe it's your cd reader or something.
[11:01] <lupine_85> use the alt install CD
[11:01] <anders0> perhaps
[11:01] <jdawiz> g4l worked for me
[11:01] <bastiq> Try with a external cd
[11:01] <bastiq> well, i've gotta go
[11:01] <bastiq> cya
[11:01] <jdawiz> josh_ g4l worked for me
[11:01] <lupine_85> that works with many more hw combinations
[11:03] <josh_> i need a package
[11:03] <josh_> something quick
[11:03] <felixjet> http://package.ubuntu.com
[11:03] <felixjet> wait
[11:03] <jdawiz> you could use the "dd" command
[11:04] <felixjet> http://packages.ubuntu.com **
[11:06] <DaSkreech> josh_: dd if=/dev/hd<partition number> of=/path/to/ghostfile
[11:06] <lupine_85> bs=512
[11:06] <jdawiz> josh_:   http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
[11:06] <josh_> will it make the whole drive ext3
[11:06] <fdoving> josh_: partimage, it's in the repos.
[11:06] <lupine_85> dd is teh r0x0r
[11:09] <arepie> is it possible for me install ATI driver without an error?
[11:10] <jdawiz> fdoving:  thanks didn't know of that one
[11:11] <ukAdamF> Howdy all. I nipped in this morning with a problem about Kubuntu (having installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu) forgetting my dns settings every reboot and having to reset them in system settings each time...
[11:11] <lupine_85> stick them in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:11] <ukAdamF> While no one had an exact idea, I've since solved the issue by placing my dns servers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[11:11] <ukAdamF> lupine_85 : I did, and upon each reboot, they magically vanished ;)
[11:11] <lupine_85> ah.. that could work too :)
[11:11] <lupine_85> hmm. in
[11:12] <lupine_85>  /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:12] <lupine_85> e.g. dns-nameserver some-ip
[11:12] <ukAdamF> doesn't support dns data, someone else thought of that one this morning.
[11:12] <ukAdamF> Was just really a "this is my workaround" in case anyone else comes in with similar problems
[11:13] <scion> hello all
[11:13] <ukAdamF> So thanks for the pointers this morning, and thanks for a great piece of software (if any of the developers are in) :)
[11:15] <DaSkreech> Riddell: That means you :)
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[11:23] <LeeJunFan> wow, busy place tonight.
[11:24] <DaSkreech> :-)
[11:25] <arepie> hello, can i install ATI Radeon driver from ati website?
[11:27] <andre_> hi, anybody knows why some apache stuff was renambed to '.dpkg-new' like in dav_svn.conf.dpkg-new?
[11:28] <agoole> io!
[11:28] <shafqat> quit
[11:28] <agoole> why quit ?
[11:30] <felixjet> XD
[11:30] <felixjet> agoole:  type /quit
[11:30] <felixjet> lol
[11:31] <fdoving> andre_: because during installation you chose to keep the current configuration. the dpkg-new files is just the file that comes with the package by default.
[11:31] <fdoving> andre_: during upgrade, is more correct to say.
[11:32] <agoole> hahaha right
[11:32] <agoole> right
[11:34] <fdoving> gnite.
[11:35] <Max_-> some software needs libatk1.0-0 to run... I loaded libatk1.0-dev ... now it still says I need libatk1.0-1 .. so I searched.. found the deb package.. but I cant Install it, it says I already have newer version... even if I apt-get remove the 1.0-dev one!!.. how can I do???
[11:38] <JacksLivr> iptables is not installed as an init script. in fedora i would type "chkconfg --add iptables" to add it. how do i do this in kubuntu?
[11:39] <apokryphos> JacksLivr: might be worth trying in #ubuntu
[11:41] <dec_> I just installed ubuntu and I am trying to play a dvd movie totem noatun, and movie player will not play it any suggestions
[11:42] <dec_> I just installed ubuntu and I am trying to play a dvd movie totem noatun, and movie player will not play it any suggestions
[11:43] <gpeek> dec_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
 right i understand,  thanks
[11:49] <TheGateKeeper> dec_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[11:58] <thunderstorm> hi@all
[12:02] <holoton1> I am an experimental DJ at an FM radio station, and was looking for some good software that I could use to lay out the tracks for my show, do transitions between them, and play with a few effects here and there; Any suggestions?