[11:47] <sexcopter8000m> !uodatedb
[11:47] <ubotu> sexcopter8000m: Are you smoking crack?
[11:47] <sexcopter8000m> oops
[11:47] <sexcopter8000m> !updatedb
[11:47] <ubotu> Wish i knew, sexcopter8000m
[11:47] <moko> ok here I'm back
[11:48] <sexcopter8000m> hmm
[11:48] <bob2> man updatedb.
[11:48] <moko> falling down...
[11:48] <sexcopter8000m> k
[11:48] <hussam> moko: it won't work in konversation as well
[11:48] <hussam> what's updatedb ?
[11:49] <bob2> "man updatedb" will tell you
[11:49] <moko> ok hussan, I will ask adunanza admins for infos, tnx :)
[11:49] <Will_> Nothing like that first cup of coffee of a morning
[11:49] <sexcopter8000m> ok, so it basically is some index for searching
[11:50] <bob2> yes
[11:50] <sexcopter8000m> hmm, just ran it and it only accessed the drive with ubuntu on it
[11:50] <hussam> is updatedb on by default?
[11:50] <sexcopter8000m> i can tell, the sound is very different
[11:50] <bob2> yes
[11:51] <sexcopter8000m> so i wonder what's accessing the other drive - the one with windows on
[11:51] <salapoliisi> great, how can i configure network in unix?
[11:51] <sexcopter8000m> if i were leet i could probably look at some clever logs or something, but well, iono :P
[11:51] <bob2> there's no general unix way
[11:51] <bob2> in debian-based linux systems, /etc/network/interfaces
[11:51] <salapoliisi> bob2: is there "easy way"
[11:52] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, is your windows partition mounted at startup?
[11:52] <bob2> editing that file is pretty easy
[11:52] <sexcopter8000m> yes
[11:52] <salapoliisi> bob2: okay, i'll try that
[11:52] <bob2> so would be using whatever is in system -> administration -> networking
[11:52] <gyaresu> then updatedb would be scanning that partition if you manually ran the command now.
[11:52] <moko> have to go, thanks everyone for help :)
[11:52] <moko> see ya
[11:52] <rob^> pfft wheres that g0rden fella when you need him from yesterday? its bug squashing time
[11:52] <mattb__> Seveas: What am I meant to have installed?
[11:53] <sexcopter8000m> so why didn't it scan windows just now (when i manually ran it)?
[11:53] <mattb__> I have been having python problems with blenders python scripting system as well
[11:53] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, did you run it as root?
[11:53] <sexcopter8000m> yes, sudo
[11:54] <sexcopter8000m> 'tis only way to work it (as i found out :P)
[11:54] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, doesn't matter. it would have. 0_o
[11:54] <mattb__> says that it also cannot import modules....
[11:54] <qt2> err... strange...
[11:54] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, unless that partition isn't mounted at the moment.
[11:54] <hussam> this updatedb thing, do I run it manually, schedule or what?
[11:54] <qt2> when i do a  glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" i get "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." a lot.... <.<;
[11:54] <sexcopter8000m> if i just type updatedb, i get "fatal error: updatedb: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!"
[11:55] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, yeah. not as root. right?
[11:55] <qt2> sexcopter8000m, err, try 'sudo updatedb'
[11:55] <qt2> and enter your root password.
[11:55] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, so it IS indexing the mounted windows dir.
[11:56] <bob2> hussam: anacron runs it
[11:56] <siimo> root password?
[11:56] <siimo> user password.
[11:56] <sexcopter8000m> gyaresu, wtf? when i run it with sudo, it accesses my new harddrive, which is quieter, but not my windows one, which is noticably clunkier sounding
[11:56] <hussam> bob2: where does it store the index databases?
[11:57] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, reboot | drop to another terminal (CTL+ALT+F2) |run 'top'
[11:57] <qt2> slomo, err... *blinks* to use sudo to run commands that need root?
[11:57] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, see whats going on.
[11:57] <bob2> hussam: /var/lib/slocate/
[11:58] <Computer__Guru> Seveas: The corresponding program to convert between about 30 different video formats, including vcd, divx, dvd, etc is avidemux. which can be built into a .deb from sources, then installed :D requires an outside apt-source though
[11:58] <hussam> bob2: so it is scheduled by anacron? how do I know if it has ran on my system before?
[11:59] <eno> so how do I do it in qtparrted?  I don't think it wants to repartition while the drive is mounted or something
[11:59] <sanitario> does anyone know of an easy way of configuring a mail server for several domains and virtual users?
[11:59] <gyaresu> eno, are you asking me?
[11:59] <sanitario> easy as in like web or gui interface...
[12:00] <hussam> bob2: is it scheduled by default or do I have to schedule it myself?
[12:00] <eno> whoever I guess
[12:00] <eno> if you dont mind :S
[12:00] <gyaresu> sanitario, webmin
[12:00] <craz3d> How can I enable my Optical S/PDIF audio out?
[12:00] <qt2> err, how do i get a version of the x server with GL support?
[12:00] <bob2> hussam: it will run by default
[12:00] <sanitario> gyaresu: any other ideas?
[12:01] <gyaresu> sanitario, you need more?
[12:01] <bob2> sanitario: http://kirb.insanegenius.net/postfix.html
[12:01] <bob2> sanitario: tho that is of course massive overkill
[12:01] <bob2> qt2: it has nothing to do with your version of the X server
[12:01] <sanitario> gyaresu: I'm not sure, just that I didn't really like webmin last time I used it
[12:01] <sanitario> bob2: thx, will check it out
[12:02] <qt2> bob2, it does if my x server doesnt have GLX support.
[12:02] <bob2> qt2: tell us what video card you have
[12:02] <gyaresu> sanitario, no easier interface that i know of. not unless you buy it.
[12:02] <bob2> qt2: no, that also has nothing to do with the X server
[12:02] <qt2> bob2, geforce 4 mx440.
[12:02] <bob2> (in the sense that you mean)
[12:02] <bob2> qt2: so, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:03] <qt2> bob2, hm, i see.
[12:03] <craz3d> Anyone know how to enable Optical Audio?
[12:03] <sexcopter8000m> hehe, can you say "oops"?
[12:03] <eno> ok I have to go to work, I will ask agian this aft
[12:03] <hussam> bob2: should the folder /var/lib/slocate/ be only accessible by root?
[12:03] <gyaresu> sanitario, problem is not setting that stuff up. it's maintaining it. things break.
[12:04] <sanitario> gyaresu: well, yeah, but for now, it's just setting it up ;D
[12:04] <sexcopter8000m> i just pressed ctrl alt f2 to see what would happen, and it logs out and closes gnome.... and i don't know the command to start it back up!
[12:04] <sanitario> can't wait till hula is production ready
[12:04] <bob2> craz3d: highly card-specific
[12:05] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, CTL+ALT+F7
[12:05] <bob2> hussam: the default permisssions are fine
[12:05] <feugan3333> I've changed some options in my kernel and recompiled, I've placed my kernel image in /boot. But I don't understand what to do with the initrd option in grub. Can I use exactly the same initrd option?
[12:05] <sexcopter8000m> what, that starts it up again?
[12:05] <craz3d> It's onboard (NF2 Ultra 400 chipset)
[12:05] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, each F Key from 1 to 7 usually is a terminal.
[12:05] <bob2> craz3d: then go google and find out if it works at all
[12:05] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, F7 being the one X runs on.
[12:05] <hussam> bob2: currently it is only accessible by root.
[12:05] <sexcopter8000m> ah ok, what about 1?
[12:05] <craz3d> bob2; I've been googling it for a few hours.
[12:06] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, Has all the boot up info. hard to type commands on.
[12:06] <sexcopter8000m> ok
[12:06] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, ++ my habit.
[12:07] <bob2> hussam: yes, you use locate to access it
[12:07] <sexcopter8000m> well, it hasn't accessed yet, so i'm thinking it might be a daily scan or sommat. why it didn't seem to scan the windows partitions is a mystery but i'm not that bothered in the end
[12:07] <sexcopter8000m> thanks for the help =)
[12:07] <hussam> bob2: ok thanks.
[12:07] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, wellcome.
[12:07] <craz3d> bob2: Figures, as soon as I drop into a help channel, I'm told to get the 'unified nForce2 driver'.
[12:08] <mattb__> I have reinstalled python 2.4 via synaptic and I believe it failed...
[12:08] <pasv> Hello.
[12:09] <pasv> I'm having troubles getting alsa working. Or sound rather for mplayer and xmms
[12:09] <sexcopter8000m> buuuut, i can bring up a new question: when rebooting ('cos i didn't know how to bring X back up), it said / has been mounted 30 times without being checked, and forced a check. a) should i check it periodically myself, and how? b) will there be a log somewhere to see if it all was ok?
[12:09] <pasv> gnome's sound seems to work flawlessly though
[12:09] <hanasaki> anyone have the flash firefox 1.0.4 plugn woring?
[12:09] <hanasaki> i just get grey boxes
[12:09] <Computer__Guru> Encoding in Progress, music to mine eyes
[12:09] <phanter> hello, how can I find a filesystem connected via smb in nautilus (if, for example, i want to save something on it). I cannot find it in /media
[12:09] <Computer__Guru> we're makin DVD's baby
[12:09] <deFrysk> hanasaki, 1.04 ?
[12:10] <hanasaki> yes
[12:10] <bob2> phanter: nautilus doesn't mount it
[12:10] <gyaresu> phanter, you need to mount them.
[12:10] <deFrysk> from ?
[12:10] <hanasaki> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050608 Firefox/1.0.4 (Ubuntu package 1.0.4)
[12:10] <hanasaki> hmm 1.0.4
[12:10] <phanter> how can i do this?
[12:10] <hanasaki> man mount
[12:10] <phanter> bob2, gyaresu, how can i do this?
[12:11] <gyaresu> phanter, you are currently only browsing to them. you should go to wiki.ubuntu.com or for the quick "how to" ubuntuguide.com
[12:11] <salapoliisi> during the ubuntu installation, is there a way to see if my network card is really found or not?
[12:11] <deFrysk> hanasaki, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:11] <gyaresu> phanter, ubuntuguide.org sorry
[12:11] <hanasaki> did that
[12:12] <pasv> Err everytime mplayer or another app tries to access the sound it just freezes
[12:12] <pasv> :(
[12:12] <gyaresu> sexcopter8000m, you must have a fat or ext2 partition (both are non-journaling)
[12:12] <bob2> pasv: so, tell them to use esd
[12:12] <bob2> pasv: e.g. mplayer -vo xv -ao esd foo.avi
[12:13] <salapoliisi> i know there's a such a thing as alsa and esd, but what is osd?
[12:13] <bob2> phanter: sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //ipofserver//sharename /mnt/
[12:13] <bob2> salapoliisi: "esd"
[12:13] <hanasaki> heh,,.. unstilled and reinstaleld and it works go figure.. thanks DeFi
[12:13] <pasv> oooo ty
[12:13] <hanasaki> deFrysk:
[12:13] <salapoliisi> bob2: so it's alternative esd?
[12:13] <lesshaste>  how do you unblock someone in gaim?
[12:14] <siimo> lesshaste, tools > privacy
[12:14] <Arsenio_Lupin> i've a problem with kmail and address book (kubuntu) someone can help me?
[12:14] <deFrysk> hanasaki, where did you get 1.4 from ?
[12:14] <pasv> bob2: it just tells me end of file
[12:14] <pasv> :\
[12:14] <gyaresu> bob2, the sudo command is a bit messy eh?
[12:14] <pasv> doesnt play the audio
[12:14] <Burgundavia> Arsenio_Lupin, you might want to try in #kubuntu
[12:14] <pasv> says no sound
[12:14] <bob2> salapoliisi: I don't understand you.  if you're asking about "esd", not "osd", then it's a sound server, and is more or less obsoleted by dmix
[12:14] <deFrysk> afaIk hoary is 1.02
[12:14] <gyaresu> bob2, with the mount n such.
[12:14] <bob2> pasv: pkill esd ; mplayer -ao oss foo.avi
[12:14] <feugan3333> Anybody know anything about initrd?
[12:14] <Arsenio_Lupin> Burgundavia: i've tried, but no answer
[12:14] <deFrysk> 1.0.4 i mean
[12:14] <bob2> gyaresu: no, not messy at all
[12:14] <bob2> feugan3333: best to just ask your question
[12:14] <hanasaki> backports
[12:15] <gyaresu> bob2, mapping the server to /mnt i mean
[12:15] <bob2> gyaresu: ? you're mounting a share.
[12:15] <deFrysk> hanasaki, try flashplayer-mozilla
[12:15] <Arsenio_Lupin> there is none
[12:15] <feugan3333> bob2: I did :-) I'll paste it again.
[12:15] <hanasaki> its working now
[12:15] <salapoliisi> bob2: could it be oss then?
[12:15] <hanasaki> heh,,.. unstilled and reinstaleld and it works go figure.. thanks DeFi
[12:15] <bob2> salapoliisi: could what be oss?
[12:15] <gyaresu> bob2, i just meant like /mnt/foo not just /mnt
[12:16] <bob2> gyaresu: I don't understand what you're saying, but you can mount it anywhere that you want
[12:16] <salapoliisi> bob2: there's something like that in the multimedia panel where i select if i use either alsa or esd
[12:16] <gyaresu> bob2, the n00bs will mount it straight onto /mnt (duzzenmatter)
[12:16] <hitler01> 12
[12:16] <bob2> salapoliisi: I don't know what the "multimedia panel" is
[12:17] <feugan3333> bob2: I basically uderstand why an initrd image is created, but not sure if I should create another initrd image for my newly compiled kernel or can I reuse the old image?
[12:17] <gyaresu> salapoliisi, bob2 sys >> prefs >> multimedia
[12:17] <bob2> feugan3333: if you're compiling your own kernel, you should just compile it so you don't need an initrd at all
[12:17] <bob2> feugan3333: ie compile in your ide/scsi controller driver, and your root filesystem module, instead of as mouldes
[12:17] <salapoliisi> gyaresu: yeah something like that
[12:17] <bob2> feugan3333: and, no, in general, you can't use the same initrd between different kernels
[12:17] <pasv> Where does esd start from?
[12:18] <bob2> pasv: gnome starts it
[12:18] <bob2> (ie gnome-session)
[12:18] <pasv> Hmm thanks bob2
[12:18] <pasv> Ah right.
[12:18] <pasv> Hmm I think i got rid of it ^^
[12:19] <feugan3333> bob2: Thanks, I don't thinks I have the knowledge to compiler scsi drivers into the kernel, but I'll take a look. What is the easiest option for a kernel newbie, using mkinitrd or compiling scsi drivers into the kernel?
[12:20] <bob2> feugan3333: simplest is not compiling it at all
[12:20] <bob1> bob2
[12:20] <pasv> Now I have but one more problem that I need to solve.
[12:20] <pasv> I have integrated wireless in this laptop I've recently bought and I'm wondering how I could turn it on.
[12:20] <bob2> feugan3333: why are you building a new one?  in general, if an ubuntu kernel is missing something you need, it's a bug.
[12:20] <bob2> depends entirely on the wireless chipset
[12:21] <bob1> wifi good
[12:21] <pasv> Celeron M. Um it's broad range
[12:21] <bob2> that's not useful
[12:21] <pasv> on a different system I used ipw2200
[12:21] <bob2> is it a Centrino laptop?
[12:21] <pasv> Negative
[12:21] <pasv> celeron
[12:21] <hyphenated> pasv: so on ubuntu, use ipw2200
[12:21] <feugan3333> bob2: got 2GB of ram and need to change kernel option to see this ram, It only sees 986MB
[12:21] <pasv> It's a package?
[12:21] <pasv> :|
[12:21] <bob2> feugan3333: no you don't
[12:21] <bob2> pasv: no, it's not
[12:21] <feugan3333> bob2: ???
[12:22] <bob2> pasv: if it's indeed a mini-pci ipw2200 card, the driver will have been loaded during the install
[12:22] <feugan3333> bob2: what should it do then?
[12:22] <bob2> pasv: paste the output of "lspci | grep Network" to #flood
[12:22] <bob2> feugan3333: what cpu do you have?
[12:22] <hyphenated> pasv: in a shell, type in dmesg | grep ipw
[12:22] <hyphenated> if that gives you a few lines, then it probably loaded it
[12:22] <feugan3333> bob2: amd64
[12:23] <bob2> feugan3333: er...you're running the i386 port of ubuntu on that?
[12:23] <pasv> hyphenated: No lines.
[12:24] <hilkiah> hi
[12:24] <feugan3333> bob2: yeah, having toooo many problems with amd64 version
[12:24] <pasv> bob2: I pasted the output of lspci
[12:24] <hilkiah> i'm a nw ubuntu convert (from fedora)
[12:24] <bob2> feugan3333: problems with Free software?
[12:24] <hilkiah> and have jut installed 5.04
[12:24] <bob2> feugan3333: anyway, sudo aptitude install linux-k7
[12:24] <hilkiah> but the system gets VERY slow (xorg utitlizing a high cpu %)
[12:24] <hilkiah> anyone ever experienced this????
[12:25] <bob2> pasv: is it too late/hard to exchange the laptop?
[12:25] <bob2> pasv: if so, you'll need to use ndiswrapper.
[12:25] <hilkiah> i found a temp solution (Option NoAccel yes) for my ati driver
[12:26] <pasv> I believe I'll use the ndiswrapper this laptop has worked flawlessly except for the wifi.
[12:26] <pasv> :|
[12:26] <feugan3333> bob2: thanks for your help, I gota go. I'm not sure I understand, but if your still online later I'd like to talk more about it.
[12:27] <yonil> im trying to run a game and i get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" --- ive googled and found installing 3d-graphic card driver should resolve the problem, but im on a laptop, which i guess means no 3d card.. what can i do?
[12:27] <pasv> I could always buy a pcmia card and use it for wireless right?
[12:28] <bob2> feugan3333: installing that kernel will give you highmem support, without recompiling
[12:28] <bob2> pasv: sure
[12:28] <bob2> yonil: don't assume, find out what vide ocard you have
[12:29] <pasv> Err I tried loading the ipw2200 module and insmod gave me the error Unknown symbol in module
[12:29] <pasv> :(
[12:29] <hyphenated> pasv: you should use modprobe to load modules, not insmod
[12:30] <pasv> Now how do I create a wireless device? like wlan0?
[12:30] <pasv> or should it have appeared already
[12:31] <hyphenated> pasv: if it loaded correctly, then you should be able to see it in iwconfig
[12:31] <pasv> lo eth0 and sit0 (whats that?) all give the result: no wireless extention
[12:32] <ColonelKernel> I made the ubuntu wallpaper blue so I could use a blue theme, looks so nice
[12:32] <pasv> I believe this is a rather new notebook as I cant find any documentation on it pertaining to linux.
[12:32] <pasv> Nice
[12:32] <pasv> ColonelKernel: dcc ?
[12:32] <pasv> or post?
[12:32] <pasv> :)
[12:32] <ColonelKernel> Ill post it somewhere  - where can I post it?
[12:33] <pasv> imgbucket?
[12:33] <pasv> oh
[12:33] <pasv> 4chan.org
[12:33] <pasv> underwall papers.
[12:33] <Jowi> ColonelKernel, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:33] <martigan> anyone can help me xdmcp? I got a black screen with a mouse pointer when logging in, nothing more :(
[12:33] <ColonelKernel> Jowi, no
[12:33] <yonil> bob2, its called Intel 855GM, i think it supports 3d, but i cant install the nvidia drivers or the same which usually solves that problem ... any ideas?
[12:33] <fruitybumlover> hey guys, is there anyway i can write 2 my windows partion in ubuntu???
[12:34] <ColonelKernel> hmph
[12:35] <pasv> martigan: what window manager are you trying to run?
[12:35] <fruitybumlover> forgto 2 add that its ntfs
[12:35] <martigan> pasv, gnome
[12:35] <pasv> Did is show any signs of gdm (the login manager)?
[12:35] <ColonelKernel> pasv, im not finding it on there
[12:35] <pasv> ColonelKernel: wha?
[12:36] <martigan> pasv: no just a black screen with a cursor (cross). firewall has to be proberly configured
[12:36] <ColonelKernel> wallpapers on that site
[12:36] <pasv> Press alt+ctrl+f1
[12:36] <pasv> then login as your user.
[12:36] <fruitybumlover> Any1  is there anyway i can write 2 my windows ntfs partion in ubuntu???
[12:36] <pasv> fruitybumlover: I'd like to know that as well
[12:36] <pasv> I believe there is an option in the kernel
[12:37] <pasv> BUT
[12:37] <pasv> I've heard that when you write to the ntfs it'll corrupt files
[12:37] <pasv> You can do this through samba or something I dont remember
[12:37] <pasv> <-- 4am
[12:37] <fruitybumlover> or is there a way for me 2 change the permissions??
[12:38] <Upayavira> fruitybumlover: you should have a FAT32 partition that both OSes use to share data. Treat NTFS as read only from Linux
[12:38] <pasv> ColonelKernel: Try 4chan?
[12:38] <ColonelKernel> pasv, no wallpapers section there
[12:38] <pasv> Yes there is in the first iframe click proceed
[12:38] <martigan> brb
[12:38] <pasv> then click on wall papers/general.
[12:39] <pasv> Is it really safe to resize a ntfs partition
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> you are smoking rocks
[12:39] <pasv> ??
[12:39] <pasv> 4chan.org ?
[12:39] <salapoliisi_> 4chan <3
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> http://www.4chan.org/
[12:39] <pasv> ColonelKernel: yeah
[12:39] <pasv> scroll down
[12:39] <pasv> then hit proceed
[12:40] <pasv> salapoliisi_: nekkid pics of j00r mum ftw
[12:40] <pasv> ^^;; jk
[12:40] <fruitybumlover> ok then the other alternativie is bein able 2 read linux partitions in windows, i know that Explore2fs can do that but im usin riserfs and not ext2 or 3.... So is there a way 2 change my files system 2 ext 3 without re-installin ubuntu??
[12:40] <salapoliisi_> pasv: well you have to admit that she's hot if you are wankig for her
[12:40] <pasv> lol
[12:41] <Nermal> fruitybumlover, no
[12:41] <Blaamann> How do I restart services in Ubuntu ? e.g sshd or apache2
[12:41] <Nermal>  /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:41] <fruitybumlover> is there another app like Explore2fs that will read riserfs in windows??
[12:41] <pasv> Blaamann: same goes with sshd
[12:41] <Nermal> fruitybumlover, google
[12:41] <salapoliisi_> Blaamann: you can also kill them and then open again
[12:41] <Jowi> Blaamann, /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[12:41] <Nermal> though that isn't nice
[12:41] <fruitybumlover> i have tried and only came up with risertools but that dowsn work 4 x64 windows:S
[12:41] <pasv> sshd*
[12:41] <pasv> :D
[12:42] <Nermal> salapoliisi_, stop with the shite advice
[12:42] <fruitybumlover> doesnt*
[12:42] <Nermal> fruitybumlover, then no ?
[12:42] <Blaamann> Thanks, I was looking for "/sbin/services".
[12:42] <pasv> oh nvm
[12:42] <salapoliisi_> Nermal: why is that shit advice?
[12:42] <pasv> lol
[12:42] <pasv> :D
[12:42] <pasv> usually sshd
[12:42] <fruitybumlover> okie dokie then.... cheers Nermal
[12:42] <Nermal> salapoliisi_, because killing services isn't as clean as using the service scripts
[12:43] <salapoliisi_> Nermal: what's the cause of that?
[12:43] <Nermal> can leave lock files open, not shut down databases cleanly etc
[12:43] <salapoliisi_> okay
[12:43] <Nermal> salapoliisi_, ok then, kill -9 a postgresql server
[12:43] <Nermal> any enjoy
[12:43] <Nermal> and*
[12:43] <salapoliisi_> it's kinda hard while im installing ubuntu right now
[12:43] <Nermal> *waves hands in rage*
[12:43] <pasv> How is it that you do net mounts?
[12:43] <Nermal> n00bs everywhere.. stuck to my shoes, in my hair, in my eyes
[12:44] <Nermal> pasv, nfs ?
[12:44] <Nermal> or smb ?
[12:44] <pasv> ah I dont want to bother with smb so nfs
[12:44] <salapoliisi_> Nermal: if you don't like them why are you helping them?
[12:44] <Nermal> pasv, then mount <ip>/<server>:/path/to/exported/mountpoint /local/mountpoint
[12:45] <Nermal> ie: mount server1:/home/foo /mnt/homefoo
[12:45] <ColonelKernel> ok I got the blue ubuntu wallpaper up
[12:45] <salapoliisi_> is it possible to make ubuntu work as a wlan server
[12:45] <Nermal> you can also add -o nolock if you don't want locking
[12:45] <pasv> ok
[12:45] <ColonelKernel> http://cgi.4chan.org/wg/imgboard.html
[12:45] <Nermal> salapoliisi_, I imagine so
[12:45] <ColonelKernel> im looking for the animated gif of that cat pouncing on the baby
[12:46] <salapoliisi_> :D
[12:46] <ColonelKernel> I want that real bad and I cant find it anywhere
[12:46] <pasv> Nermal: How do you set that up on the server side?
[12:46] <Nermal> ColonelKernel, nice
[12:46] <Nermal> pasv, install the nfs server stuff, edit /etc/exports and start the nfs server
[12:46] <ColonelKernel> I found one that they replaced the cat with patrick duffies head
[12:46] <pasv> or k
[12:46] <hilkiah> can anyone tell me how i can update my ati driver/??
[12:46] <hilkiah> pls?
[12:47] <Nermal> hilkiah, may be something in the wiki re ati drivers
[12:47] <ColonelKernel> you guys like the blue ubuntu wallpaper?
[12:47] <Nermal> !ati
[12:47] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:47] <qt2> er... is there a way to install alsaconf in hoary? o.O;
[12:47] <ColonelKernel> It looks good on my system with a blue theme
[12:47] <Nermal> ColonelKernel, yah :)
[12:47] <hilkiah> wil check there
[12:47] <Nermal> though I currently have a picture of saturn on my desktop
[12:47] <ColonelKernel> nice, tis good to contribute
[12:47] <qt2> i could really make use of it, because the last thing not working on the other system is the sound.
[12:47] <Nermal> http://nermal.org/gallery/albums/5/55.jpg :)
[12:48] <pasv> Nermal: isn't nfs insecure though?
[12:48] <pasv> :(
[12:48] <Nermal> pasv, erm.. depends what you mean by secure
[12:48] <pasv> I mean cant anyone on my network just mount that export?
[12:48] <Nermal> data isn't encrypted iirc
[12:48] <salapoliisi_> Nermal: what's that icon theme?
[12:48] <Nermal> you could use sftp if you want it encryped - nautilus supports browsing it
[12:48] <Nermal> salapoliisi_, erm.. just some gant icons
[12:48] <salapoliisi_> okay
[12:49] <Nermal> salapoliisi_, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=7214
[12:49] <Nermal> ported they are called "umicons"
[12:50] <Blaamann> I would also love to get gaim 1.40  (it supports ICQ file transfers!), any Ubuntu/debian packages around ?
[12:50] <Nermal> pasv, permissions wise it's reasonable.. as long as you have root_squash enabled
[12:50] <MyComputer> Blaamann it's rather trivial to compile it yourself
[12:50] <Nermal> it's also stateless and uses udp under linux normally not tcp
[12:51] <pasv> ah
[12:51] <pasv> Because I'd like to mount it for my anime dir
[12:51] <pasv> :)
[12:51] <Blaamann> MyComputer: No tricky dependencies ?
[12:51] <pasv> think it'd be ok to just run vids off a nfs mount?
[12:52] <pasv> probably increase the -cache for mplayer or something
[12:52] <MyComputer> Blaamann Gaim is easy to compile
[12:52] <Nermal> pasv, nfs will maintain permissions via file owner UID
[12:52] <Nermal> which in turn is mapped to the username
[12:52] <Nermal> man nfs should give you some more info
[12:52] <mumbles> qt2
[12:52] <Blaamann> Ok, I will try and put a prefix so it is easy to remove.
[12:52] <pasv> Im reading that atm
[12:52] <pasv> :)
[12:53] <mumbles> i have sound problems as well
[12:53] <Nermal> Blaamann, you can uninstall with sudo make uninstall :)
[12:53] <Nermal> lemme look for ubuntu packages though
[12:53] <mumbles> but mines becouse my internal sound on my motherbord isent supported yet
[12:53] <mumbles> intel desktop D915PGN
[12:54] <ex-parrot> seeing as gnomedesktop is down, does anyone have the latest starterbar version (0.31.3 or higher) handy?
[12:55] <ex-parrot> the currently available release doesn't run due to python-xdg incompatability
[12:56] <ex-parrot> I'm talking about gdesklets here
[12:56] <Nermal> ex-parrot, tried #gdesklets on irc.gnome.org ? :)
[12:56] <ex-parrot> aha!
[12:56] <Nermal> author sits in there as well as some other people
[12:56] <ex-parrot> just for the record, everybody, Nermal is awesome.
[12:57] <Nermal> aw
[12:57] <ex-parrot> thanks :P
[12:57] <Nermal> I have my moments
[12:57] <Nermal> when I'm not spinning plates or pulling my hair out
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> hey guys...  I just found the weirdest file in my home directory.  It's bright red.  How the heck did this get here?  lrwxrwxrwx   1 nick nick       43 2005-05-31 23:49 .#crap -> nick@localhost.localdomain.10779:1117598672
[12:57] <qt2> anyone?
[12:58] <salapoliisi_> Nermal: what is that weather and cpu called in your desktop?
[12:58] <qt2> is there a way to install alsaconf in hoary?
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> qt2: I don't know
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> why not google it?
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/63/2005/05/3/323621
[01:00] <tiglionabbit> does that help?
[01:00] <tiglionabbit> hehe, now, any theories on how that red file got there?
[01:00] <Nermal> salapoliisi_, erm.. that's a gdesklet.. but the site is dead atm due to gnomedesktop.org exploding
[01:00] <Nermal> tiglionabbit, a red file means an invalid symlink
[01:01] <qt2> i have googled it, and nope, it doesnt help.
[01:01] <salapoliisi_> Nermal: okay, i might like to use that myself :)
[01:01] <Nermal> means it's a symlink pointing to a file that doesn't exist
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> Nermal: thanks.  I don't think I even know the command to create such a file though, so how could it have gotten there?
[01:01] <Nermal> I imagine you ran something from irc or something involving the channel #crap
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> from irc?
[01:02] <tiglionabbit> I use irssi
[01:02] <Nermal> well yeah.. using /exec
[01:02] <tiglionabbit> really
[01:02] <bRadArmPitt> I look for Nvu 1.0 for Ubuntu Hoary but cannot find, do I install "Tarball built on Linspire 5.0 (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.5" on Nvud ownloadpage?
[01:03] <tiglionabbit> I have another red file that appears to be a normal zip though
[01:03] <mirak> does anyone uses toolchain here ?
[01:04] <ColonelKernel> does anyone know where I can get a copy of that animated gif of that cat pouncing on that baby that was all ove the net a few years ago?
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> lol, ColonelKernel, that is such a linux question, I'm sure we'll know the answer to that
[01:05] <reka> ColonelKernel: it sounds rather sadistic :-/
[01:05] <salapoliisi_> sounds fishy
[01:05] <salapoliisi_> and i don't like fish
[01:06] <bRadArmPitt> I look for Nvu 1.0 for Ubuntu Hoary but cannot find, do I install "Tarball built on Linspire 5.0 (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.5" on Nvud ownloadpage?
[01:06] <Nermal> ColonelKernel, images.google.com ?
[01:06] <Nermal> !nvui
[01:06] <ubotu> No idea, Nermal
[01:06] <Nermal> !nvu
[01:06] <ubotu> hmm... nvu is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor/ http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.""
[01:06] <bRadArmPitt> how to install thank you i read that
[01:06] <Nermal> bRadArmPitt, see the ubuntulinux.org link
[01:07] <ColonelKernel> Nermal, thats what I thought but im having no luck
[01:07] <catfox> anyone know a command to just return the time?
[01:08] <catfox> "date" gives me date + time etc
[01:08] <Nermal> catfox, man date
[01:08] <bRadArmPitt> can that tarball work on nvu site
[01:09] <Nermal> bRadArmPitt, yeah
[01:09] <bRadArmPitt> i use that and it will work really on ubuntu linux?
[01:09] <Nermal> yes
[01:09] <martigan> bRadArmPitt,  nvu is in my synaptic
[01:09] <Nermal> !show nvu
[01:09] <ubotu> I don't know, Nermal
[01:09] <bRadArmPitt> martigan version 1.0 is in there?
[01:09] <Nermal> hmm
[01:09] <Elch|VS|Network> hi
[01:10] <Nermal> !info nvu
 Package 'nvu' does not exist.
[01:10] <Nermal> hmm :|
[01:10] <martigan> nope 0.99 sorry
[01:10] <badnews> hi there....
[01:10] <bRadArmPitt> martigan that is the problem
[01:10] <rasputnik> catfox: date takes loads of arguments, read the manpage
[01:10] <bRadArmPitt> martigan i trying the 1.0 download from nvu site because it is not on ubuntu downloads
[01:11] <badnews> have an issue with firefox plugins.... can smn help me?
[01:11] <Nermal> badnews, maybe.. or #mozilla
[01:12] <bRadArmPitt> !info nvu
[01:13] <badnews> no, its ubuntu related. what is the *recommended* way to install ff plugins? a regular user cannot install plugins at all, since he has no write permissions outside his home. sudo firefox installs the plugins for root. Of course I can do a console install of flash etc - but what is the *official* way to do it?
[01:13] <martigan> badnews, hold on i got a solution i think
[01:13] <qt2> i dont get this damn thing...
[01:14] <twilight> hello there, i'm on breezy. i've this error after a Xorg upgrade: Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exists, 0) and the same for module "mouse" and for module "keyboard". Any idea?
[01:14] <bRadArmPitt> there is an Xorg upgrade?
[01:14] <bRadArmPitt> what are the new features
[01:15] <Nermal> probably not much
[01:15] <Jowi> twilight, please see the topic
[01:15] <twilight> Jowi: ok...
[01:15] <bRadArmPitt> !info gramps
[01:15] <ubotu> gramps: (Genealogical Research and Analysis Management Program), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.8-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 6161 kB, Installed size: 14128 kB
[01:15] <martigan> badnews, type about:config in firefox url box, change the general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4 you can now install pugins and themes
[01:16] <Nermal> twilight, I'm on breezy and haven't seen that error
[01:16] <Nermal> tried running xorgconf again ?
[01:16] <martigan> firefox is 1.0.4 they just seem to forget to update that setting or something
[01:16] <twilight> yes Nermal
[01:16] <bRadArmPitt> firefox is 1.0.5
[01:16] <yonil> bob2, its called Intel 855GM, i think it supports 3d, but i cant install the nvidia drivers or the same which usually solves that problem ... any ideas?
[01:16] <badnews> about: says its 1.0.4.... trying....
[01:17] <Nermal> badnews, I can install plugins as user
[01:17] <twilight> Nermal: i've done an upgrade 1 hour ago
[01:17] <martigan> atleats my plugins work perfectly  trough this setting ;)
[01:17] <Nermal> twilight, I won't be upgrading then :)
[01:17] <twilight> Nermal: :)
[01:17] <Nermal> twilight, hmm.. maybe some paths have changed
[01:17] <Nermal> nv should be there :|
[01:18] <twilight> Nermal: he sets the pathModule to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules, i believe is ok
[01:18] <Nermal> and are the modules in there ?
[01:19] <hussam> anybody here's tried xfce 4.2.2?
[01:19] <mumbles> right brake from tideyin gup room
[01:19] <mumbles> any ideas on how to get my sound working ?
[01:19] <twilight> Nermal: one second, i prepare a page and put in that some info
[01:19] <mumbles> intel desktop D915PGN
[01:19] <mumbles> apparetnley some people have managed to get it working
[01:21] <twilight> Nermal: first, my Xorg.0.log: slorenzo.ath.cx/Xorg.0.log
[01:22] <badnews> ff plugins: changed subVendor to 1.0.4. install fails with "completing plugin finder service - java runtime environment - not available" so I have to do a manual install...
[01:22] <mirak> nobody uses toolchain ?
[01:23] <Shorty`> where does one get fspot from?
[01:23] <Nermal> erm..
[01:23] <Nermal> !info f-spot
[01:23] <ubotu> f-spot: (personal photo management application), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.12-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 519 kB, Installed size: 1940 kB
[01:23] <Nermal> sudo apt-get install f-spot :)
[01:24] <Shorty`> E: Couldn't find package f-spot
[01:24] <Shorty`> weird
[01:24] <Shorty`> *checks repositories*
[01:24] <bRadArmPitt> !info xmame
[01:24] <Nermal> it's in universe apparently
[01:24] <Shorty`> could be a 64bit thing?
[01:24] <twilight> Nermal: ls /usr/X11R6/lib/modules : slorenzo.ath.cx/ls_modules
[01:24] <Nermal> erm.. might might be
[01:24] <Nermal> depends if mono is available for 64 bit I guess
[01:24] <Shorty`> I'm thinking so
[01:24] <bRadArmPitt> !info squid
[01:24] <ubotu> squid: (Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache)), section web, is optional. Version: 2.5.8-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 722 kB, Installed size: 2072 kB
[01:25] <hussam> I have a question. I compiled/installed xfce 4.2.2 using gui installer. I enabled composite. but I got no shadows. I know xorg.conf is configured correctly because I get shadows in kde 3.4.1. any ideas?
[01:25] <Shorty`> seems to be.. weird
[01:25] <Nermal> twilight, hmmm.. is nv in any of the subdirs ?
[01:25] <twilight> Nermal: you can tell me in exact name?
[01:26] <Shorty`> does ubuntu have a beast similar to packages.debian.org ?
[01:26] <twilight> Nermal: so i'll looking for it in the system
[01:26] <Nermal> /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nv_drv.o
[01:26] <bRadArmPitt> packages.ubuntu.com
[01:26] <Shorty`> ahah
[01:26] <Nermal> is where it is on my hoary box
[01:26] <Shorty`> I was about to try that
[01:26] <Shorty`> ahaha
[01:26] <twilight> Nermal: thanks
[01:26] <Nermal> thats the "nv" bit :)
[01:27] <Shorty`> gah
[01:27] <Shorty`> nothing for 64bit
[01:27] <twilight> i haven't the directory "drivers" o_O
[01:27] <reka> mumbles: i suggest you ask crimsun when he's active.  he's the resident sound guru
[01:27] <bRadArmPitt> why do you say nothing for 64 bit why do people say that cannot you run the 32 bit version?
[01:27] <mumbles> ok will do
[01:27] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know what wireless belkin cards work?
[01:28] <mumbles> my processer is a 64bit one
[01:28] <twilight> i've found many packages of driver for Xorg, i'm going to install it
[01:28] <bRadArmPitt> your 64 bit cpu can run 32 bit programs though correct?
[01:29] <dylan_> yes it can 64bit is backwards compat.
[01:29] <Shorty`> bRadArmPitt, my point is that was the reason I couldn't download it
[01:30] <bRadArmPitt> so by saying there is nothing for 64 bit, when there is 32 bit, is that not incorrect?
[01:30] <dylan_> does anybody know if Breezy is any good?
[01:30] <pluffsy> do you have any guesses on when  the next stable ubuntu will be released?
[01:30] <bRadArmPitt> dylan_ says it is backwards compat
[01:31] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know what wireless belkin cards work?
[01:31] <Dorward> pluffsy: From the very first page of the Wiki: #
[01:31] <Dorward> BreezyBadger - Version 5.10. Next release, scheduled for October 2005.
[01:33] <bRadArmPitt> why is badger breezy?
[01:33] <qt2> wtf...
[01:34] <pluffsy> ah thanks
[01:35] <yonil> im trying to compile a driver and it says im missing the kernel modules.. what should i do ?
[01:35] <qt2> bRadArmPitt, because it was jealous that he hedgehox was hoary?
[01:36] <gustavo> hey, i just installed ubuntu
[01:36] <gustavo> what should i do now?
[01:36] <gustavo> coz nothing is working
[01:37] <reka> gustavo: such as?
[01:37] <gustavo> music player for example
[01:37] <gustavo> and, whats my root password?
[01:37] <reka> !tell gustavo about restricted
[01:37] <reka> !tell gustavo about rootsudo
[01:38] <ThE_CeltiC> !tell ThE_CeltiC about rootsudo
[01:39] <ThE_CeltiC> i have the same problem :)
[01:39] <reka> ThE_CeltiC: you can /msg ubotu <term> if you want to try other ones out :)
[01:39] <gustavo> and what about the repositories?
[01:40] <ThE_CeltiC> reka: tks ;)
[01:40] <reka> !tell gustavo about repositories
[01:40] <Garrison> Anyone know how to solve this: WARNING!!! The mixer channels for the ALSA driver are muted by default!!! (when make-installing alsa)
[01:40] <reka> :)
[01:40] <emanuelez> rubyonrails
[01:40] <bigfoot1> Hello everyone. Today, I was so happy to discover the program that will allow us to make free PC to phone calls. Voipbuster.com has it. But it only has a windows version. IS there  an equivalent program for ubuntu? Thanks so much! I'm so excited if this is possible for us at Ubuntu!
[01:40] <Dorward> Garrison: Run a mixer and unmute them.
[01:40] <ficoc> does anyone use "X-Lite" ? i have a problem with the audio wizard
[01:41] <bRadArmPitt> I like ubuntuguide
[01:41] <Garrison> I ran 'nvmixer' and unmuted everything, but its not working..
[01:41] <gustavo> when i do the sudo apt-setup it crashes
[01:42] <gustavo> y?
[01:42] <yonil> im trying to install a driver, and it cant seem to find my kernel source ... although i have linux-source installed ... any ideas?
[01:42] <reka> Garrison: alsamixer
[01:42] <Garrison> kernel-headers?
[01:42] <reka> gustavo: apt-setup?
[01:42] <ColonelKernel> yonil, install kernel-headers
[01:43] <Garrison> reka: doesn't run
[01:43] <bigfoot1> how do we do a terminal search for stuff in the repo's?
[01:43] <Garrison> reka: no such device
[01:43] <chase> does anyone know where i can get a copy of genmenu? its not in the apt repositorys and i cant connect to gtk.no to download it?
[01:43] <yonil> ColonelKernel, i'll try
[01:43] <Jowi> I'm getting: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status. Anyone knows why that would happen? (gcc 3.3)
[01:44] <gustavo> reka, apt-setup, coz my apt has ubuntu cd as repositories source
[01:44] <gustavo> reka, i wanna change to ftp
[01:44] <Garrison> how would i remove a module from loading at boot time? (ie. dont load the nvaudio stuff when booting)
[01:44] <monteiro> Garrison : chmod -x /etc/init.d/module_you_don't_want
[01:44] <reka> gustavo: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:45] <yonil> ColonelKernel, as i thought, i already have them ... and linux-image, and everything ..
[01:45] <ColonelKernel> yonil, thats very odd
[01:46] <yonil> ColonelKernel, i know, this is what it says: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/build:  No such file or directory
[01:46] <yonil> i have that folder, but not the build folder in it ..
[01:46] <tuxme> tell me how to make my ubuntu boot up have a graphic but not text like it does now
[01:46] <reka> gustavo: then you can either comment out the CD source by inserting a # character at the start of it's line, or change the whole file to the sample one found here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:46] <bigfoot1> Does anybody have "kiax" installed? I downloaded Kiax.deb from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131960. How do i install it?
[01:46] <martigan> anyone know how to get Mercury to work in hoary?
[01:46] <ColonelKernel> what happens if you just make one
[01:46] <gustavo> reka, i must find brazilian repositories for ubuntu T_T
[01:46] <yonil> ColonelKernel, i'll try ..
[01:46] <reka> gustavo: after you've saved the edited file, close it and run sudo apt-get update
[01:47] <reka> gustavo: what's the brazilian domain name? e.g. australian one is au
[01:47] <gustavo> reka, br i gues
[01:47] <bigfoot1> anybody here heard of the program called voipbuster (voipbuster.com)? it allows windows users to make free pc to phone calls
[01:47] <yonil> ColonelKernel, nope, its looking for files over there ..
[01:47] <reka> then change the lines inserting br at the start
[01:48] <gustavo> reka, btw, my fstab doesnt display my windows partition
[01:48] <reka> gustavo: example: change "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse" to "deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse"
[01:49] <gustavo> hmmm thx a lot
[01:49] <reka> gustavo: to auto-mount your windows partition: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[01:49] <gustavo> reka, and what about the fstab, do u have a sample line of how to recognize windows partition?
[01:49] <gustavo> thank u^^
[01:50] <gustavo> reka, whats this gst-register thing?
[01:50] <tuxme> gustavo gstreamer?
[01:51] <gustavo> well my audio programs arent working
[01:51] <gustavo> it tells me to use gst-register
[01:51] <reka> gustavo: what program?
[01:51] <Jowi> gustavo, gst-register tells gstreamer what decoders are available
[01:51] <ThE_CeltiC> how can i configure a usb mouse?
[01:52] <ateves> is there a way to increase the width of the gnome panel icons? so that i could use icons that are twice as wide as high
[01:52] <Jowi> gustavo, totem and rhythmbox use gstreamer
[01:52] <gustavo> those two programs arent working
[01:52] <Jowi> gustavo, so you are missing codecs probably. what media files are you trying to play?
[01:53] <gustavo> none, i just tried to open the program
[01:53] <khurtiz2> is there a faq somewhere for installing apache/php/mysql under ubuntu? i'm guessing they're already installed, just haven't figured out where yet ...
[01:53] <Jowi> gustavo, and what exact error do you get?
[01:54] <ThE_CeltiC> how can i configure a usb mouse?
[01:54] <gustavo> "did u ran gst-register?"
[01:54] <gustavo> that error
[01:55] <Jowi> gustavo, so open a terminal and type: gst-register-0.8
[01:55] <Garrison> how can i forcefully unmute anything alsa?
[01:55] <reka> khurtiz2: ubotu comes up with this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PHPDevelopmentHowTo/
[01:55] <bigfoot1> anyone: can you tell me how to install a .deb file?
[01:56] <Dorward> bigfoot1:man dpkg
[01:56] <gustavo> Jowi,  still get the error
[01:56] <reka> Garrison: try: apps > sound/video > vol control
[01:56] <Garrison> alien -d whatever_.deb
[01:56] <bigfoot1> Garrison, you talking to me?
[01:56] <adwait> hello ppl
[01:56] <reka> Garrison: then file > change device , then select the alsa one and check if the levels are muted for it
[01:56] <Jowi> gustavo, are you trying to play mp3 or ogg or what?
[01:57] <Garrison> bigfoot1, yes, sorry, i messed it up, it's actually dpkg -i package_name.deb
[01:57] <khurtiz2> thanks reka
[01:57] <gustavo> im just trying to open the program T_T
[01:57] <bigfoot1> Garrison, thanks!
[01:57] <gustavo> i better download xmms
[01:57] <reka> gustavo: you didn't read the restricted formats page did you?
[01:57] <Garrison> reka: there's only one device, and it's my nVidia OSS Mixer
[01:58] <Garrison> I installed that damned nvidia unified driver cr*p, and I want to get it off my system.
[01:58] <reka> gustavo: you need to install seperate codecs if you want to use totem or rythmbox.  xmms or bmp come with their own.  just make sure to change the ouput plugn to esound in preferences
[01:58] <Garrison> I'm trying to install alsa, and get it working.
[01:58] <gustavo> reka, ok, doing that now
[01:58] <ThE_CeltiC> how can i configure a usb mouse? anyone!??
[01:58] <bigfoot1> does anybody here use dselect to install .debs?
[01:59] <reka> Garrison: : this works for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[01:59] <Garrison> bigfoot1, why? whats the problem with dpkg?
[01:59] <reka> Garrison: but use at your own risk i guess
[02:00] <bigfoot1> Garrison, i just went to [man dpkg]  and it mentioned that dselect is a frontend for dpkg. And I just prefer front end stuff. That's all. I'm a newbie so i have no idea what this is all about, and i prefer gui over terminal. But to answer your question, there's no problem with dpkg.
[02:01] <tuxme> !info splashy
[02:02] <tuxme> what is splashy
[02:02] <tuxme> they say in kubuntu channel to use splashy for graphical boot but what is it
[02:02] <virgule> tuxme: google know it all ;)
[02:03] <bigfoot1> garrison, Dorward: i ran the the dpkg command. I got this error: dpkg: error processing jeff/kiax.deb (--install):
[02:03] <bigfoot1>  cannot access archive: Not a directory
[02:03] <bigfoot1> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:03] <bigfoot1> oh never mind.
[02:03] <bigfoot1> i fixed it.
[02:04] <bigfoot1> I got this "dependency error". What must i do: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kiax:
[02:04] <bigfoot1>  kiax depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however:
[02:04] <bigfoot1>   Version of libqt3c102-mt on system is 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3.
[02:04] <LinuxNewbie> hello there
[02:04] <LinuxNewbie>  i just need some information about network
[02:04] <ColonelKernel> looks like part of freenode ust went down
[02:04] <adwait> LinuxNewbie: like...........?
[02:05] <LinuxNewbie> ok here it is
[02:05] <ThE_CeltiC> my usb mouse don`t work! what can i do ?
[02:05] <bigfoot1> how can i get a newer version of n libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4)? I need it for kiax.
[02:05] <adwait> bigfoot1: u can apt-get it....
[02:05] <bigfoot1> correction: how can i get a newer version of  libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4)? I need it for kiax.
[02:05] <bigfoot1> adwait, how?
[02:05] <Garrison> sudo apt-get install libqt[TAB, and choose one]
[02:05] <martigan> anyone know how to get Mercury to work in hoary?
[02:05] <adwait> sudo apt-get install <whatever>
[02:06] <LinuxNewbie> the thing is i got this on my mind, is it possible for a person to stay on a network eventhough he is far awy, like 50 miles
[02:06] <feugan3333> lol
[02:06] <bigfoot1> Garrison, adwait, will apt-get have this version? I thought ubuntu automatically updates our systems. Please clarify.
[02:06] <adwait> LinuxNewbie: tht really depends on wht ur using to logon to the network.......u can be on the network from another planet provided u have the right methods/means
[02:06] <LinuxNewbie> like you have a pc, and you can connect to another PC
[02:07] <Garrison> bigfoot1, it might, or rather, I'd think it would.  have to apt-get upgrade'd yet?
[02:07] <adwait> bigfoot1: it updates ur system if u run sudo apt-get upgrade.......otherwise it doesnt
[02:07] <LinuxNewbie> ah?
[02:07] <Garrison> bigfoot1; have you**
[02:07] <LinuxNewbie> is that like intranet
[02:07] <adwait> bigfoot1: try running the command.......if apt-get doesnt hv a new version, it will tell u so
[02:07] <bigfoot1> so i should run sudo apt-get upgrade regularly to make sure all my files are current?
[02:07] <feugan3333> LinuxNewbie: you mean use the remote pc as if it was in front of you?
[02:07] <Garrison> bigfoot1; bingo
[02:07] <LinuxNewbie> nope
[02:08] <bigfoot1> Garrison, why doesn't ubuntu do it automatically?
[02:08] <LinuxNewbie> like they are in the same netowrk by very far away
[02:08] <LinuxNewbie> like in a lan
[02:08] <LinuxNewbie> but very far
[02:08] <LinuxNewbie> is that possible?
[02:08] <Garrison> bigfoot1; Too much like windoze I guess.
[02:08] <adwait> LinuxNewbie: wht do u think the internet is?
[02:08] <bigfoot1> Garrison, i ran sudo apt-get upgrade, but kiax still has that same unmet dependency.
[02:08] <gustavo> xmms working ! ^
[02:09] <Garrison> bigfoot1; what is kiax?
[02:09] <feugan3333> LinuxNewbie: there are problems with security, that why VPN's were invented. And yes it's possible
[02:09] <Whistler> gustavo congrats
[02:09] <LinuxNewbie> but you have to have a ISP for the internet to join the network
[02:09] <adwait> bigfoot1: tht means a newer version not available with apt-get...i can install from deb, if u can find it
[02:09] <Jowi> LinuxNewbie, I think you are looking for a VPN solution
[02:09] <LinuxNewbie> can they stay connected without the use of internet
[02:10] <LinuxNewbie> VPN can do that?
[02:10] <Jowi> LinuxNewbie, the internet is of course needed
[02:10] <bigfoot1> Garrison, kiax is a  voip program that, connected to the voipbuster.com network, will allow us linux users to make free PC to phone calls!
[02:10] <adwait> LinuxNewbie: right.....well for tht long a distance, u could either connect the two comps over the internet.......or, u could install a dial in server on one pc, and then dial in from the other pc
[02:10] <reka> gustavo: fyi, the beep-media-player interface is prettier... if that matters to you.
[02:10] <feugan3333> LinuxNewbie: your not making any sense
[02:10] <bigfoot1> adwait, thanks. but what do you mean yuo can install from deb, if i can find it? What is "it"? kiax.deb?
[02:10] <feugan3333> LinuxNewbie: you said you wanted to use the internet
[02:11] <ex-parrot> it would seem that installing compositing and xcompmgr has actually _improved_ window rendering on my system
[02:11] <LinuxNewbie> nope i dont want to use the internet
[02:11] <LinuxNewbie> just stay connected without the use of internet
[02:11] <adwait> bigfoot1: umm...google it, u might find the deb file for it..
[02:11] <gustavo> reka, thank u, i will take a look
[02:11] <feugan3333> LinuxNewbie: If you don't want to use the internet, you connect the computers with a private network
[02:11] <adwait> bigfoot1: google the name of the dependencies.....chances are u can find the dependencie frm the same place u downloaded the app
[02:11] <LinuxNewbie> yes kinda like that
[02:12] <gustavo> reka, prettieness is fundamental :P
[02:12] <Jowi> LinuxNewbie, if you do not want to use internet you will have to make your own network for example with 2 dial-up modems. but that is a use of good money for a crap service
[02:12] <LinuxNewbie> so VPN is the next best thing?
[02:12] <adwait> LinuxNewbie: like i said, run a dial in server on one machine.......and then dial in to tht machine frm the othr.......tht could work out to be expensive though
[02:12] <Jowi> LinuxNewbie, yes. VPN is what you want.
[02:12] <bigfoot1> adwait, i have already found this deb file (http://kiax.sourceforge.net/), but this kiax program needs the  libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4).
[02:13] <LinuxNewbie> is VPN very secured?
[02:13] <Jowi> LinuxNewbie, VPN connects two local networks to eachother as if they were in the same network. VPN is very secure.
[02:13] <feugan3333> LinuxNewbie: Yes very secure
[02:13] <LinuxNewbie> even though they are very far away from each other?
[02:13] <adwait> bigfoot1: http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/libqt3c102-mt
[02:13] <feugan3333> LinuxNewbie: err, if setup correctly
[02:13] <Jowi> LinuxNewbie, have a look at cisco's homepage for more info or wikipedia
[02:14] <bigfoot1> adwait, thanks, but what do i do with that url?
[02:14] <Jowi> LinuxNewbie, VPN acts like if your computer in the USA was beside the computer in Europe
[02:14] <adwait> go there......select ur architecture, download the *.deb file
[02:14] <LinuxNewbie> thnx alot men
[02:14] <Jowi> Check wikipedia or cisco's homepage
[02:14] <LinuxNewbie> atleast i have some idea
[02:14] <adwait> bigfoot1: thn install the deb file, and then try installing the app tht u were originally trying to install
[02:15] <LinuxNewbie> ill try to research on VPN on google
[02:15] <LinuxNewbie> thnx alot guys
[02:15] <bigfoot1> adwait, if i understand correctly, the app IS the deb file.
[02:16] <salapoliisi_> can i change my 386 kernel to 686 with just apt-get?
[02:16] <adwait> bigfoot1: uuh no u dont understand...........whn it says it needs something (the dependencie), that means it needs a library, or another application installed........so u download tht other application or library (which again is a deb file) and then u install tht app u were installing.........got it?
[02:17] <bigfoot1> adwait, i understand.
[02:17] <adwait> :)
[02:17] <martigan> salapoliisi_, yes
[02:17] <gustavo> so far i like ubuntu.... but eaht a weird name.....
[02:17] <adwait> gustavo: ubuntu = humanity in some african language
[02:18] <adwait> !ubuntu
[02:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'.
[02:18] <bigfoot1> adwait, just wondering why doesn't ubuntu repo have the latest version of libqt3c102-mt ?
[02:18] <gustavo> yeah
[02:18] <gustavo> but still thats weird
[02:18] <yonil> how can i quit X ?
[02:18] <adwait> bigfoot1: umm...no idea.......maybe u should run sudo apt-get update, tht downloads the fresh list of available apps on apt-get
[02:18] <martigan> salapoliisi_, afte rthe install of 686 you can select in from grub, boot it and remove 386 with apt-get remove
[02:18] <ThE_CeltiC>  /dev/mouse No such file?  wtf !!??
[02:19] <bigfoot1> adwait, i don't know my computer's "architecture". my pc is a normal one.
[02:19] <ex-parrot> gustavo, how is it weirder than gentoo or yopper ?
[02:19] <adwait> yonil: sudo init 1 ........or press ctrl+shift+F1
[02:19] <cavediver> Hi. I have no luck finding a quicktime plugin for Firefox? Is there one availible ?
[02:19] <adwait> bigfoot1: i386
[02:19] <twilight> Nermal: all is changed. Now there are packages as xserver-xorg-driver and xserver-xorg-input, and you must choose the right packages..cool :)
[02:19] <reka> gustavo: this your 1st linux distro?
[02:19] <bigfoot1> adwait, thanks.
[02:19] <twilight> Nermal: but i've problems again..... ;|
[02:19] <adwait> bigfoot1: : np :)
[02:19] <gustavo> reka, i used knoppix before
[02:20] <gustavo> reka, acctually kurumim, a brazilian knoppix
[02:20] <gustavo> reka, but i had problems with japanese environment there
[02:20] <reka> cavediver: mozilla-mplayer
[02:20] <cyphase> hey everyone
[02:21] <reka> gustavo: you needed a jap environ?
[02:21] <ColonelKernel> Jewish AMerican Princess?
[02:21] <gustavo> reka, yeah.... right now im trying to figure out which input method use on ubuntu
[02:22] <cavediver> reka: which repos do I need to add for that ?
[02:22] <adwait> cavediver: u can download from plugin.mozilla.org
[02:22] <reka> !info mozilla-mplayer
[02:22] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 2.70-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 300 kB
[02:22] <adwait> uh addins.mozilla.org
[02:22] <bigfoot1> adwait, i tried installing this lib...deb file, I got this error: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libqt3c102-mt:
[02:22] <bigfoot1>  libqt3c102-mt depends on libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0); however:
[02:22] <bigfoot1>   Version of libfontconfig1 on system is 2.2.3-4ubuntu7.
[02:22] <reka> cavediver: multiverse.  alternatively, use adwait's suggestion
[02:23] <cavediver> adwait: it's not availible it sais
[02:23] <adwait> bigfoot1: uuuuh........
[02:23] <bigfoot1> adwait, i guess this means i must get libfontconfig1, right?
[02:23] <adwait> bigfoot1: if it syas tht it needs, download it......
[02:24] <cavediver> adwait: https://pfs.mozilla.org/plugins/    quicktima , not avail.
[02:24] <Garrison> I installed nforce audio drivers from nvidia.com, they worked, then broke, now i'm trying to revert back to original drivers, but I can't get my system to see any soundcards. If it does, it's just the OSS device that the nvidia installer .. installed.
[02:24] <bigfoot1> adwait, gotcha. but i wonder if there's an easier way. Something like the smart Synaptic...
[02:24] <adwait> cavediver: no quicktime............mediaconnector
[02:24] <Garrison> **nothing works as far as sound anyway.
[02:24] <adwait> bigfoot1: apt-get is the smart way........but it seems the version u want isnt available
[02:25] <bigfoot1> adwait, so we must do it "manually".
[02:25] <adwait> bigfoot1: right....
[02:25] <adwait> bigfoot1: makes u realise the value of apt-get ;)
[02:25] <bigfoot1> adwait, now i see! 8-)
[02:25] <tuxme> which is more better aptitude or synaptic?
[02:26] <cavediver> adwait: hmm ok
[02:26] <ed1t> synaptic
[02:26] <adwait> tuxme: dunno abt better........but synaptic is more integrated with ubuntu
[02:26] <ed1t> they both same...ones a console bases and ones GUI
[02:26] <Nermal> twilight, ?
[02:26] <cavediver> adwait: mediaconnector, cant find that
[02:26] <reka> tuxme: imho, there is no "better". use whatever you find is best
[02:26] <Garrison> anyone know how to fix my audio problem, because i'm feeling like I might be forced to reinstall
[02:27] <salapoliisi_> is there any good reason why to upgrade kernel 386 to 686, will my computer actually get faster or something like that?
[02:27] <Nermal> Garrison, uninstall the nvidia stuff ?
[02:27] <reka> Garrison: before you do, i'd ask crimsun when he's active.  he's the resident sound guru.
[02:27] <gustavo> whats the command line for the file manager on ubuntu?
[02:27] <adwait> cavediver: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=446
[02:27] <reka> gustavo: nautilus
[02:27] <adwait> cavediver: sorry i messed up the name :)
[02:27] <Nermal> salapoliisi_, if you have more than 896 mb of ram to get support for memory over that
[02:27] <cavediver> adwait: thanks
[02:27] <Nermal> salapoliisi_, may be a little quicker as well
[02:27] <adwait> cavediver: np
[02:27] <Garrison> reka; when does he come on?
[02:28] <Nermal> he's on now
[02:28] <Garrison> Nermal; yes, remove anything even half-related to nvidia-audio from my system (short of pulling the chip off the mobo)
[02:28] <Nermal> n00bs.. everywhere
[02:28] <gustavo> how do i see how much space left i have on my ubuntu partition?
[02:28] <adwait> :D
[02:28] <Nermal> sticking to my shoes again
[02:28] <Toba> how well will ubuntu handle it if I plug in my fat16 128 MB flashdrive?
[02:28] <Toba> will it be able to read my files?
[02:28] <Nermal> gustavo, df -h
[02:28] <gustavo> i promisse tomorrow i will not ask about those things XD
[02:28] <Nermal> Toba, sure
[02:28] <adwait> lol
[02:28] <Nermal> just plug it in
[02:28] <adwait> gustavo: try df
[02:28] <martigan> Nermal, you know how to enable ndiswrapper under 686 by a change? thats stops me from using that kernel :(
[02:29] <cavediver> adwait: what, it can't be installed ! I have 1.0.4 and it sais I need to have 1.0 -> 1.0+
[02:29] <cavediver> Weird
[02:29] <gustavo> thanks
[02:29] <Nermal> martigan, erm.,. ndiswrapper working fine for me under a 686 kernel
[02:29] <reka> Garrison: looks like he's working
[02:29] <adwait> cavediver: thts odd.....it installed fine on my end......wht error does it give?
[02:29] <martigan> i have to recompile it somehow, 386 version doesnt work here
[02:30] <Nermal> martigan, what's wrong with apt-get install linux-image-686 ndiswrapper ?
[02:30] <jouka> hey all
[02:30] <Garrison> reka, any idea how to simply 'revert' ?
[02:30] <jouka> can someone help me to install ident?
[02:30] <cavediver> adwait: could not be installed because it's not compatible with this version of firefox, will only work with 1.0 > 1.0+
[02:30] <adwait> cavediver: 1.0.4 = 1.0+
[02:31] <Nermal> cavediver, installed through apt ?
[02:31] <cavediver> yes that's what i find weird :=9
[02:31] <reka> Garrison: not really, i'm afraid.  did you try the HOWTO i linked to?
[02:31] <cavediver> Nermal: no through the xpi
[02:31] <adwait> Nermal: no he is doing it thru addons.mozilla.org
[02:31] <Nermal> cavediver, I mean firefox
[02:31] <martigan> nermal hmm cant find that package does it say, wat source is it coming from then :S ?
[02:31] <CarinArr> i'm using kdevelop3 for my development stuff.. which seems to work okay, just i would like to customise the fonts and stuff.. do i need to install kubuntu to do with in ubuntu or what do i need to do?
[02:31] <Garrison> reka; did everything it said, word for word, and the volume control still lists the OSS device that the nforce drivers created
[02:31] <Nermal> !info ndiswrapper
[02:32] <Nermal> !info linux-image-686
[02:32] <ubotu> linux-image-686: (Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:32] <Nermal> hmm
[02:32] <Nermal> where is ndiswrapper ?
[02:32] <reka> Garrison: again, if you're patient enough, i'd wait for crimsun to drop in
[02:32] <bimberi> jouka: there's a package called "ident2"
[02:32] <Nermal> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[02:32] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: (Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.12+1.0rc2-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 108 kB
[02:32] <Nermal> :D
[02:32] <ColonelKernel> oidentd
[02:32] <reka> Garrison: i can't really help any further.  sorry
[02:32] <Nermal> martigan, ^^
[02:33] <Garrison> reka; the lack of my mp3s is driving me to tears.
[02:33] <martigan> hmm
[02:33] <Nermal> martigan, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 ndiswrapper-utils
[02:33] <feugan3333> Anyone had some experience with custimizing their kernel and using initrd. I can't find any good documentation on initrd.
[02:33] <Nermal> should sort you out
[02:33] <reka> Garrison: i can imagine.
[02:33] <jouka> thanks
[02:33] <Nermal> just get rid of the old version of ndiswrapper first if you have one installed
[02:33] <reka> Garrison: maybe search the wiki for some sound topics
[02:33] <cavediver> adwait: now it works
[02:33] <Nermal> feugan3333, man initrd ?
[02:33] <bimberi> jouka: in fact, a search in synaptic finds a number of different ident daemons
[02:33] <martigan> Nermal, i am going to give it a shot bbl
[02:34] <Garrison> reka: i will, any idea when he becomes active? (home from work)
[02:34] <jouka> bimberi, what to choose then?
[02:34] <Ninwa> Does anybody know if the gnome "trashcan" is a directory I can access without using the interface?
[02:34] <bimberi> jouka: sorry - i can't help there
[02:34] <Nermal> Ninwa, ~/.Trash
[02:34] <feugan3333> Nermal: yes i've seen that, but what do they expect as version. I specify the path to my kernel image but that does not work.
[02:34] <Ninwa> Nermal, Ah hah, Thank you.
[02:35] <jouka> ok, thanks
[02:35] <bigfoot1> adwait, got 2 lib...debs and the kiax deb installed.
[02:35] <bimberi> jouka: yw :)
[02:35] <bigfoot1> adwait, but now i get this error when i run kiax:Error message:cannot initialize iaxclient! Exitting application. Possible reason: Device initialization failed.
[02:35] <ed1t> is there any player like itunes for like ubuntu, have like organized music library and stuff
[02:36] <Nermal> ed1t, rhythmbox
[02:36] <Nermal> or muine
[02:36] <reka> Garrison: hard for me to say..i'm in aus so i can't really match up the times i log on.
[02:36] <reka> with his
[02:36] <ed1t> thx Nakkel
[02:36] <ed1t> err
[02:36] <ed1t> Nermal
[02:36] <Nermal> :)
[02:36] <feugan3333> Nermal: sorry I'm taking about mkinitrd , which is what I need to use. Right?
[02:36] <Nermal> yeah
[02:37] <Garrison> reka: k, thanks
[02:37] <ed1t> Nermal is it under ubuntu repositories?
[02:37] <Nermal> feugan3333, version is kernel version surely
[02:37] <Nermal> ed1t, yah
[02:37] <Nermal> !info rhythmbox
[02:37] <ed1t> k
[02:37] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-7ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 1517 kB, Installed size: 4268 kB
[02:37] <ed1t> hmmm
[02:37] <Nermal> !info muine
[02:37] <ubotu> muine: (Simple playlist based music player), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.2-5ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 246 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB
[02:37] <Nermal> rhythmbox might be better for you
[02:38] <Nermal> should be installed by default I thought
[02:38] <ed1t> Nermal do i need any kind of codec/packages or anything to play mp3?
[02:38] <bimberi> ed1t: RhythmBox usually installed by default - Applications -> Sound & Video -> Music Player
[02:38] <Nermal> you might need to install libmad to get mp3 support
[02:38] <bigfoot1> adwait, i figured it out. I need to install this iaxclient too.
[02:38] <ed1t> hmm
[02:38] <ed1t> brb switching to ubuntu
[02:38] <Nermal> ed1t, one sec
[02:38] <acid2> lol
[02:39] <Nermal> nm.. I'm charging him by the minute
[02:39] <reka> Nermal, ed1t: gstreamer0.8-mad iirc
[02:39] <bimberi> lol
[02:39] <Nermal> reka, aye
[02:39] <Nermal> reka, waiting for him to return
[02:39] <bimberi> reka: yes - that's the one
[02:39] <Nermal> or gstreamer0.8-all
[02:39] <CzarAlex> I have ubuntu installed on a 4 gig hd (set as master on IDE 1) I have a 15 gig hd formatted with NTFS with some old windows files (set as slave on IDE 1) How do I encorporate that HD in to my file system?
[02:40] <kennef> (while you wait for him to return ;) )
[02:40] <Nermal> CzarAlex, mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hdb1 ?
[02:40] <Nermal> to format it
[02:40] <Nermal> or mkfs.ext3
[02:40] <Nermal> etc
[02:40] <Nermal> then mount it
[02:40] <Nermal> and plonk it in your /etc/fstab
[02:40] <bigfoot1> i went to http://iaxclient.sourceforge.net/, but i don't know how to get the iaxclient file(s). Can anyone help?
[02:41] <CzarAlex> Nermal, lemme check that out. Those commands are all new to me.
[02:41] <Nermal> bigfoot1, http://sourceforge.net/projects/iaxclient/
[02:41] <Nermal> bigfoot1, oops.. no files :|
[02:41] <Nermal> cvs ?
[02:42] <bigfoot1> Nermal, no files. what can we do?
[02:42] <Nermal> bigfoot1, check it out from cvs I guess
[02:42] <bigfoot1> what does that mean?
[02:42] <martigan> Nermal, your the man. uname -r -> 2.6.10-5-686 nad wireless is still working :D thanks
[02:42] <Nermal> well.. get the files from the cvs server
[02:42] <martigan> and
[02:42] <Nermal> martigan, :D
[02:42] <ed1t> it says i need a plugin
[02:43] <martigan> ;)
[02:43] <Nermal> ed1t, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:43] <Nermal> for mp3s
[02:43] <Nermal> or gstreamer0.8-all for all of the plugins
[02:43] <CzarAlex> Nermal, how do i know if i should use mkfs.reiserfs or mkfs.ext3?
[02:44] <Nermal> or mkfs.xfs :)
[02:44] <Nermal> or ext2
[02:44] <Nermal> ahem
[02:44] <Nermal> umm.. depends on what filesystem you want :)
[02:44] <CzarAlex> the same as the other drive is fine with me.
[02:44] <Nermal> reiserfs is good for lots of smallish files and is generally quicker than ext3.. ext3 tends to be a tad more stable
[02:44] <Nermal> CzarAlex, do df -T
[02:45] <bigfoot1> nermai, i'm on the CVS page of the iaxclient website. but the programming lingo is beyond me. Could you help?
[02:45] <Nermal> to see what formats your other partitions are
[02:45] <Nermal> bigfoot1, install cvs first
[02:45] <Nermal> then do
[02:45] <CzarAlex> ext3
[02:45] <bigfoot1> how do i install cvs?
[02:45] <Nermal> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/iaxclient login
[02:45] <Nermal> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/iaxclient co -P iaxclient
[02:45] <Nermal> !info cvs
[02:45] <ubotu> cvs: (Concurrent Versions System), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.12.9-9 (hoary), Packaged size: 1400 kB, Installed size: 3024 kB
[02:46] <Nermal> so sudo apt-get install cvs
[02:46] <Toba> hmmm this is odd
[02:46] <CzarAlex> Nermal,  so I want to: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[02:46] <Toba> I plugged in my flashdrive and it won't let me delete things in the root of it
[02:46] <Nermal> CzarAlex, yes.. that will format it.. you will need to put a sudo before that to do it as root
[02:46] <CzarAlex> understoof.
[02:46] <CzarAlex> d
[02:46] <Toba>  /media/FLASH/ is accessible... but I can't delete /media/FLASH/my_documents.zip
[02:46] <Nermal> you will lose all data! yadda yadda
[02:47] <Toba> but I *can* edit the file /media/FLASH/owner.txt
[02:47] <Nermal> Toba, flash drive write protected ?
[02:47] <Toba> what is up with that?
[02:47] <Nermal> umm
[02:47] <Nermal> permissions are ballsed
[02:47] <bigfoot1> nermal, which of the 2 cvs commands you wrote above should I use?
[02:47] <Toba> Nermal: it seems so
[02:47] <Toba> what I wonder is why and how to fix it
[02:47] <Nermal> bigfoot1, both..just hit enter after the first to log in with no password
[02:47] <Eko> hi
[02:47] <Nermal> Toba, sudo chown yourusername /media/FLASH/* ?
[02:48] <Nermal> Eko, from worcestershire ?
[02:48] <Eko> yeah
[02:48] <Nermal> cool :) I'm from Malvern :)
[02:48] <ed1t> Nermal, i installed the gstreamer plugins but it still gives me the same error
[02:48] <CzarAlex> Nermal, what do I refer to this new drive as when using the mount command?
[02:48] <InHell^19m> hey ppl  how can i get to know the kernel version from console?
[02:48] <Nermal> ed1t, hmm.. restarted rhythmbox ?
[02:49] <jcoxon> InHell^19m, uname -r
[02:49] <Nermal> CzarAlex, mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/mountpoint
[02:49] <bigfoot1> Nermal, ok. i did the first command, and hit enter when it asks for password. Now, nothing is happening. SHoud i just wait?
[02:49] <Toba> hm
[02:49] <Toba> no luck
[02:49] <ed1t> ahh it needed a restart
[02:49] <Toba> stil doesn't work
[02:49] <Eko> ive installed Ubuntu but when i boot it says i have some name resolution error, it continues fine until i get to the logon screen i think and all i can see is flashing squares?? any idea what this is?
[02:49] <Nermal> where mountpoint is a dir you created in /mnt with mkdir
[02:49] <ed1t> thx again Nermal
[02:49] <InHell^19m> thanks
[02:49] <Nermal> Toba, sudo chmod 644 /media/FLASH/* ?
[02:49] <CzarAlex> Nermal, hmm. I didnt create any dir's yet.
[02:49] <Nermal> CzarAlex, create one now :)
[02:49] <CzarAlex> heh  ok
[02:49] <Nermal> call it what you want
[02:50] <Nermal> convention is to plonk it in /mnt
[02:50] <bigfoot1> Nermal, oh it finished now. I got this error: cvs login: warning: failed to open /home/me/.cvspass for reading: No such file or directory
[02:50] <Toba> it says it's a read-only filesystem
[02:50] <Nermal> bigfoot1, that's fine.. notice how you said "I get this error" and cvs is saying "warning"
[02:50] <rasputnik> Toba: what's it mounted as?
[02:50] <Nermal> Toba, mount -o remount,rw /media/FLASH ?
[02:50] <bigfoot1> Nermal, sorry. you're right. It wasn't called an error.
[02:50] <Toba> it's in /media/
[02:50] <Nermal> bigfoot1, :)
[02:51] <rasputnik> Toba: sorry, I meant what fstype
[02:51] <Toba> oh
[02:51] <Toba> it's fat16
[02:51] <Toba> that'd be a problem right?
[02:51] <ColonelKernel> vfat
[02:51] <Toba> since it doesn't do permissions
[02:51] <Nermal> well.. it should be ok
[02:51] <Toba> but it isn't
[02:51] <Nermal> what does mount say it's mounted as?
[02:51] <rasputnik> Toba: not a problem really, but it won't do permissions as you say. there's an option to mount somewhere to set 'virtual' perms
[02:52] <Toba> ah
[02:52] <Nermal> fat16 uses msdos module not vfat iirc
[02:52] <Nermal> vfat = fat32
[02:52] <Toba> do I have to mount it for that to work?
[02:52] <CzarAlex> Nermal, strange. it only used 4gigs of the 15 possible.
[02:52] <Nermal> CzarAlex, ermm...
[02:52] <bigfoot1> Nermal, ok, i finished the second cvs command. is there another step?
[02:52] <Nermal> you sure that's not your main drive ?
[02:52] <rasputnik> Toba: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/31/2004/06/4/189734
[02:52] <Nermal> bigfoot1, it should have downloaded some files
[02:52] <Nermal> and plonked them in a new dir
[02:53] <bigfoot1> Nermal, yes it downloaded many files.
[02:53] <Nermal> bigfoot1, there are going to be a lot of steps.. you're going to have to build it and install it :|
[02:53] <zukalk> !rule 1
[02:53] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[02:53] <Nermal> cd into the dir and try ./configure
[02:53] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: you cd into the directory and then read the 'install' file
[02:53] <bigfoot1> Nermal, okay, how do i build?
[02:53] <CzarAlex> i make a dir in /mnt called torrents and then ran the mount command
[02:53] <bigfoot1> okay.
[02:53] <Nermal> CzarAlex, and does /dev/hdb1 appear in df -h ?
[02:53] <CzarAlex> Nermal,  yes
[02:53] <CzarAlex> wait
[02:54] <CzarAlex> yes it does.
[02:54] <CzarAlex> as 4gigs
[02:54] <Nermal> hmm..
[02:54] <Nermal> only one partition on the drive ?
[02:54] <CzarAlex> oooh... wait. come to think of it. there were two. windows partitions though. didnt think that would make a difference.
[02:54] <twilight> Nermal: i've solved :)
[02:54] <anu> can any one help on spalsh
[02:55] <Nermal> CzarAlex, second partition would be /dev/hdb2
[02:55] <CzarAlex> can I merge the two?
[02:55] <Nermal> you can combine them by nuking the partitions and creating a new big one with fdisk
[02:55] <Nermal> or cfdisk
[02:55] <Nermal> CzarAlex, tell you what
[02:55] <Nermal> sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:55] <Nermal> !gparted
[02:55] <ubotu> Nermal: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:55] <Nermal> !info gparted
[02:55] <ubotu> gparted: (partition editor for GNOME), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.8+cvs2005022001-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 303 kB, Installed size: 1152 kB
[02:55] <Nermal> :)
[02:55] <CzarAlex> oo nice! thank you.
[02:56] <Nermal> partition magic like graphical tool for you :)
[02:56] <Nermal> I think you should be able to toodle around easily, maybe even merge them :)
[02:56] <bigfoot1> i found the readme file in the iaxclient directory (from CVS). it says: BUILDING THE LIBRARY: From the "lib" directory:Linux: type "make" using standard gnu make/gcc. "   My question is, Am I okay with this "standard" make?
[02:56] <reka> anu: spalsh?
[02:56] <CzarAlex> yeah doofy me needs graphical :\
[02:57] <Nermal> CzarAlex, nah.. I've nuked wrong partitions by accident with fdisk.. much better to see what you are doing :)
[02:57] <Nermal> I even wrote the changes to disk :|
[02:57] <Nermal> and that was before I started drinking
[02:57] <Nermal> bigfoot1, sure.. if it's installed
[02:57] <anu> reka: splash is like a graphical appearance instead of comands that u see
[02:58] <Nermal> anu, ask a specific question
[02:58] <rasputnik> anu: you want a grub splash screen
[02:58] <reka> anu: were you tuxme?
[02:58] <bigfoot1> Nermal, what do you mean? do you mean it will be installed by this "make" command. Or that i should use "make" only if it has already been installed?
[02:58] <wrtpeeps> hi, i am having problems logging into the root account so i can get software. I'm new to linux/ubuntu.
[02:58] <anu> reka: yes
[02:58] <reka> anu: i've forgotten what your original question was, but i think the good folk at #kubuntu were talking about setting a splash image for GRUB.
[02:58] <wrtpeeps> i type su - , but i don't know the password
[02:58] <rasputnik> wrtpeeps: don't. use sudo
[02:58] <anu> reka: all how to install it
[02:58] <reka> anu: rasputnik seems to know bout that.
[02:58] <wrtpeeps> rasputnik, sorry?
[02:58] <reka> anu: i have no clue
[02:58] <rasputnik> wrtpeeps: use 'sudo some command you run as root'
[02:59] <wrtpeeps> ah
[02:59] <rasputnik> wrtpeeps: and give it your password when it asks
[02:59] <reka> !tell wrtpeeps about rootsudo
[02:59] <anu> reka : thnkz
[02:59] <wrtpeeps> so, for example, 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:59] <wrtpeeps> ahhh
[02:59] <wrtpeeps> wonderful
[02:59] <rasputnik> wrtpeeps: yup. like osx
[02:59] <reka> wrtpeeps: yep.  read the wiki page for more info
[02:59] <Nermal> bigfoot1, "make" is a program that needs to be installed before you can build software with it
[03:00] <wrtpeeps> rasputnik, thank you very much :D
[03:00] <anu> rasputnik : can you help in installin splash image for GRUB
[03:00] <rasputnik> anu: what have you tried? search google  or the forums, it's straightforward
[03:00] <wrtpeeps> ok, 1 more question, how do i modify my GRUB to include my windows installation
[03:00] <CzarAlex> Nermal, that new partition i formatted and mounted doesnt show up in the device list in gparted
[03:00] <rasputnik> wrtpeeps: did it not to that for you?
[03:01] <reka> wrtpeeps: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:01] <Nermal> CzarAlex, does the actual disk ?
[03:01] <wrtpeeps> rasputnik, hmm, maybe it did, i haven't checked.
[03:01] <Garrison> reka: do you think a reinstall would fix the problem? (overwrite, not format)
[03:01] <wrtpeeps> Anyway, thank you everybody
[03:01] <wrtpeeps> bye
[03:01] <reka> Garrison: did you have sound before you installed the nvidia stuff?
[03:01] <CzarAlex> no. the only disc that shows up is the boot one
[03:01] <anu> i hv tried ubuntu form
[03:02] <Nermal> CzarAlex, erm,... you selected the right disk in the drop down list at the top right ?
[03:02] <Garrison> reka: Yes, that's the annoying part, I installed the nforce drivers in attempt to get my fibre-optic s/pdif to work.  Im such a baby :) Found it. (the drive...not the diaper)
[03:03] <Nermal> CzarAlex, :)
[03:03] <bigfoot1> Nermal, i ran make, and it worked. so i think i already have make installed.
[03:03] <Garrison> Nermal, reka: Maybe rebuilding/reinstalling the nvidia drivers (to un-break them), then doing a --uninstall ?
[03:03] <reka> nalioth: feel rested? :)
[03:03] <Nermal> bigfoot1, cool
[03:03] <bigfoot1> Nermal, rasputnik , after running this make command, what's the next step.
[03:03] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:03] <ColonelKernel> if I have a pentium 4 2.6 HT is it wrth 200 bucks to upgrade to a amd64 3000 setup?
[03:04] <nalioth> reka: not really, i was training for my new job up until 6 hours ago
[03:04] <anu> rasputnik : can tell me how to configure splash from starting
[03:04] <rasputnik> ColonelKernel: is it maxxing out the CPU?
[03:04] <rasputnik> anu: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/
[03:04] <Nermal> right.. bbl.. got to head into bosses office
[03:04] <rasputnik> first link on google for 'splash grub'
[03:05] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: sudo make install
[03:05] <ColonelKernel> rasputnik, games I guess
[03:05] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: should put stuff into /usr/local/
[03:05] <nalioth> reka: so really havent had much sleep
[03:05] <Garrison> Nermal: the nforce installer gave me: ERROR: Unable to remove kernel module 'nvsound'
[03:05] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, how do i know the name of the file to install?
[03:05] <ColonelKernel> right now Ill be keeping my agp video card but later on ill get a new mobo and u/g to a pci-e card
[03:05] <ColonelKernel> and mobo
[03:06] <rasputnik> ColonelKernel: in my experience disk is always the bottleneck, not the cpu
[03:06] <krishna2> what is this ubuntu
[03:06] <zukalk> !ubuntu
[03:06] <ubotu> well, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'.
[03:06] <reka> nalioth: well, at least you're keepng busy. :)
[03:06] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: you don't need to, it's in the makefile. just type 'sudo make install'
[03:06] <ColonelKernel> rasputnik, i was thinking more like the 1600mhz fsb and wide open pipelines to things
[03:06] <wza> how make ubuntu boot with commandline only? changing runtimelevel doesn't seem to work
[03:06] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, gotcha.
[03:06] <nalioth> reka: a little too busy, atm
[03:06] <rasputnik> ColonelKernel: oooooh that's nice :)
[03:07] <ColonelKernel> yeah look at this deal on tigerdirect, I really want it
[03:07] <ColonelKernel> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1205783&sku=MBM-SK8T800-3000
[03:07] <ColonelKernel> Ive had very good experiences w chaintech mobo's
[03:07] <ColonelKernel> cheap but fast
[03:08] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, i get this error: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop." Should i be in a particular directory?
[03:08] <tahorg> hi
[03:08] <rasputnik> ColonelKernel: cpu and mobo for 170 bucks? thats' what, 80 quid in real money? wow
[03:08] <calc> wza: easiest way is to uninstall gdm
[03:08] <krishna2> any body wants to help me with my web server
[03:08] <ColonelKernel> rasputnik, thats a pretty good deal methinks
[03:08] <tahorg> who is packaging X in breezy ?
[03:08] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: yeah, you should be in the source tree you got from cvs
[03:09] <calc> tahorg: look in the changelog
[03:09] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, "source tree"?
[03:09] <wza> calc: no further configuration needed?
[03:09] <rasputnik> krishna2: what's the problem
[03:09] <calc> wza: not after you do that, that is the package that starts X server
[03:09] <reka> wza: or you could alternatively install rcconf and then just disable gdm apparently
[03:09] <krishna2> just a little help
[03:09] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: directory of source code? the stuff you checked out with  cvs
[03:09] <tahorg> xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
[03:09] <krishna2> it is best to use windows with cygwin all packages
[03:09] <tahorg> that IS SO UGLY
[03:10] <CzarAlex> Nermal, create this new drive as primary or extended partition (Does primary mean itll replace my main drive that ubuntu is located on?)
[03:10] <krishna2> no
[03:10] <krishna2> iot is the best
[03:10] <krishna2> it
[03:10] <calc> or just disable gdm using update-rc.d
[03:10] <krishna2> 6:39:30 PM: <krishna2> it is best to use windows with cygwin all packages
[03:10] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, okay, in the "/iaxclient" folder, we have 3 folders: CVS, lib, and simpleclient.
[03:11] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: is this where you ran 'make' from earlier
[03:11] <rasputnik> krishna2: what are you on about?
[03:11] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, i ran make from iaxclient/lib
[03:12] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, but from from iaxclient/lib, i also get that error
[03:12] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: ok. is there a Makefile in the top folder? ( the iavclient one)?
[03:12] <bigfoot1> in top folder, there are 2 files: copying.lib and readme.
[03:13] <krishna2> rasputnik windows with cygwin
[03:13] <krishna2> do you know cygwin?
[03:13] <wza> calc: making the command look like 'update-rc.d -n ...' ?
[03:13] <Garrison> reka: What's the make *config for the curses config? (building kernel)
[03:13] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, i found the makefile. it's in /lib. But the letter M of Makefile is capitalized. Shoudl i make it a small "m"?
[03:14] <rasputnik> krishna2: no. try asking on a cygwin channel?
[03:14] <krishna2> ok
[03:14] <krishna2> i just gave a comment
[03:14] <linukso> Garrison: make menuconfig
[03:14] <nalioth> reka needs to refer Garrison to the many good howtos out on the www, cuz kernel building is a little over the top for in here
[03:14] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: no, that's fine. there isn't a Makefile in the top level then? maybe cos it's cvs
[03:14] <krishna2> have you installed make?
[03:15] <bigfoot1> krishna2, yes i believe i have "make" installed.
[03:15] <reka> nalioth: well that makes me feel a little less incompetent. :)
[03:15] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, no, there isn't a makefile in top level folder. what should we do now?
[03:15] <nalioth> reka: don't worry, i'm always incompetent
[03:15] <krishna2> why no eggdrops here?
[03:15] <nalioth> just not incontinent
[03:16] <nalioth> krishna2: what kind of eggdrop?
[03:16] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: what's in the simpleclient folder ? any binaries?
[03:16] <tanki> hi
[03:16] <krishna2> nalioth any eggdrop
[03:16] <krishna2> eggdrop bot
[03:16] <Dorward> krishna2: why should there be?
[03:17] <yonil> how can i run xfree86 instead of x.org ?
[03:17] <nalioth> !info eggdrop
[03:17] <Seveas> krishna2, bots are not allowed in here
[03:17] <ubotu> eggdrop: (Advanced IRC Robot), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 1.6.17-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 459 kB, Installed size: 1144 kB
[03:17] <nalioth> krishna2: except for that one
[03:17] <Seveas> only ubotu is
[03:17] <tanki> uboto is more than a bot i think, he has personality
[03:17] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, no binaries in the /simpleclient folder. there are only more subfolders: CVS, iax2slin, iaxcomm, iaxphone, testcall, tkphone  (etc etc).
[03:17] <reka> yonil: why would you want to?
[03:17] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: shit :/
[03:18] <yonil> reka, some issues i have with a driver which xfree might solve ..
[03:18] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, can't we do something with the makefile in /lib?
[03:18] <devios> anyone know how to set up a PDF printer in ubuntu?
[03:19] <tanki> devios, is that a printer that only prints PDF files?
[03:19] <devios> tanki: yes
[03:19] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: a makefile has a list of 'targets' to do things like build, install the source code. If theres' no 'install' target you have to manually put the libraries into the system yourself. that's a pain
[03:19] <tanki> are they cheaper than regular printers?
[03:19] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: check those folders in simpleclient. I'd imagine there is a binary in each of them
[03:19] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, but there is a makefile! it's in iaxclient/lib folder. can't we work with that?
[03:19] <devios> tanki: I am trying to print to a pdf file instead of paper
[03:20] <devios> tanki: an electronic pdf file
[03:20] <nalioth> tanki: what he wants is the option to "print to PDF" instead of to a HP DeskJet
[03:20] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: not if it has no install target, no. and if it did, then 'make install' in that folder would have worked
[03:20] <Fadly> what you say!!!!!
[03:20] <tanki> oh i see
[03:20] <krishna2> what do i do with a dns?
[03:20] <reka> tanki: no in the literal sense. :)  you use one to output any document to a pdf file. iirc
[03:20] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, so what should we do now? I only need iaxclient because another program (kiax) needs it.
[03:20] <reka> *not in the literal sense
[03:21] <tanki> reka, like converting * -> pdf?
[03:21] <krishna2> what do i do with a dns?
[03:21] <devios> I was able to set up a pdf printer, but it doesn't print correctly.  It turns most of the text on the web page I am trying to print into garbage, but some of the images are working correctly.
[03:21] <reka> tanki: think so
[03:21] <tanki> krishna2, you resolve things
[03:21] <krishna2> what does that mean?
[03:22] <Dorward> krishna2: You put in hostnames and get ip addresses out. (And vice versa)
[03:22] <tanki> krishna2, it means resolving numeric ip addresses to hostnames and vice versa
[03:22] <krishna2>  brb
[03:22] <krishna2> oh
[03:22] <krishna2> ok
[03:23] <nalioth> delire the spanish dancer has arrived
[03:23] <tanki> i think we should get rid of dns and just all have one huge /etc/hosts file with every host on the internet hehe
[03:23] <tanki> it's so much easier
[03:23] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: you'd have to copy the library files somewhere by hand, then tell kiav where to load them from. it's non-trivial
[03:23] <tanki> of course the file in question would probably be a gig or two large but hey.. the price of evolution
[03:23] <delire> nalioth: it's all cucarachachacha here..
[03:23] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, "non-trivial" means difficult?
[03:24] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: if you feel adventurous you could 1) make an /opt/lib folder 2) copy the .sos into that 3) add it to /etc/ld.so.conf, 4) run ldconfig
[03:24] <oga7876> hey all... i'm just intalling ubuntu on my laptop atm and i have 2 partitions set up at 10G each 1 for linux, 1 for winxp i'm not sure which one i should erase from looking at partitioning screen in ubuntu installer. fat32 has a lighting arrow ntfs has nothing... which needs to go?
[03:24] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: that will set up the system so it can find libraries in /opt/lib. then try install kiav.
[03:24] <rasputnik> *ing
[03:24] <mumbles> oga7876 you might need a swap
[03:25] <devios> because I do not have a working PDF printer, I have to save webpages as webpages, download them to a Winblows machine, and PDF them there
[03:25] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, so maybe the official website of iaxclient doesn't have the deb. But do you think we can find it elsewhere? maybe in unofficial repos? or somewhere in the internet? what do you think?
[03:25] <dbtsai> hi~~
[03:25] <rasputnik> devios: kword can print pdfs. not sure if that helps you though
[03:25] <oga7876>  mumbles.... i have no problems letting it autoformat the remaing space when i clear either the fat32 or the ntfs but i need to know which one to get rid of
[03:25] <oga7876> i'd think it was the fat32
[03:25] <oga7876> (cos xp uses ntfs to the best of my knowledge)
[03:25] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: worth a shot. is kiav a deb then?
[03:26] <dbtsai> Is anyone knowing that how to sleep on ibook?
[03:26] <tanki> oga, just make sure before you do anything you backup anything you want saved in windows
[03:26] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, what's kiav?do you mean xiav?
[03:26] <oga7876> but.... fat32 has lightning arrow thing on it which suggests it has a bootable partition on it
[03:26] <delire> http://elastico.net/copyfight is a festival we are setting up with many public Ubuntu machines. there is a running question as to whether anyone has had any issues with the odd USB storage device (including cameras) not automatically mounting (due to "bad device descriptor" or odd device mapping etc or whatever)??? these machines are public terminals to be used as workbenches.
[03:26] <nbx909> dbtsai, why did you put linux on a mac?
[03:26] <rasputnik> oga7876: are they the same size?
[03:26] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, sorry, not xiav either.
[03:26] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: sorry yeah
[03:26] <oga7876> both same size
[03:26] <oga7876> yeah
[03:26] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: whatever you're client is called
[03:26] <dbtsai> due to mac osx's chinese fonts is not clear
[03:26] <nbx909> how do you stream music in linux?
[03:27] <dbtsai> so I decide to use linux and use MOL~~
[03:27] <tanki> nbx909, open xmms and then turn up your volume really loud and piss off your neighbor
[03:27] <rasputnik> oga7876: maybe bot into windows and right-click->properties on the drive to be sure. think that tells you the fstype
[03:27] <tanki> :)
[03:27] <delire> nbx909: ffmpeg
[03:27] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, here's the thing. I have this voip program called kiax. And i've already gotten the deb for this. But it needs iaxclient. It's this iaxclient that doesnt' have a deb. It's this iaxclient where we were messing around with CVS and sudo make install, etc.
[03:27] <nbx909> delire, that doesn't have a gui does it?
[03:27] <delire> nbx909: there are many clients for this, even icecast/darkice et al
[03:28] <Garrison> Anyone: I'm using kernel 2.6.10-5-k7, where (and what) source do I need to build from?
[03:28] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: yeah gotcha. I was just giving general 'how to build from source' advice. i have'nt used any of the stuff above.
[03:28] <dbtsai> I use kernel 2.6.11-1-powerpc with hoary
[03:28] <delire> nbx909: check out monopod
[03:28] <tanki> heck even some linux sound daemons have remote capability yet i've never heard of someone using it
[03:28] <nbx909> delire, ok
[03:28] <rasputnik> bigfoot1: seems odd that there would be a package for a program but not for the libraries it needs?
[03:28] <delire> nbx909: though that's podcasting really.
[03:28] <nbx909> arg
[03:29] <nbx909> delire, i want something like winamo
[03:29] <nbx909> winamp*
[03:29] <sinferno> will i have problems if i install winex and i have cedega installed?
[03:29] <dbtsai> nbx909: Do you know kow to slave this problem??
[03:29] <tanki> i have to admit, linux has too many daemonified programs.. i mean like take the font server in x for example.. who here is has ever had the need to setup a font server to share fonts?
[03:29] <nbx909> kow?
[03:29] <zukalk> slave?
[03:29] <tanki> lol
[03:29] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, yeah, odd, isn't it? but do you think we can get the iaxclient deb somewhere else?
[03:29] <nbx909> slave?
[03:29] <Dorward> tanki: X doesn't have to use a font server, it is quite happy to read them off the filesystem.
[03:29] <tanki> hey brad, i have this cool font i got last night, connect to my font server!
[03:29] <highvoltage> nbx909: apt-get install xmms
[03:29] <dylan_> when is breezy supposed to be available?
[03:30] <dbtsai> sorry...slove~~
[03:30] <zukalk> !breezy
[03:30] <Dorward> tanki: But when you have lots of workstations, its nice to have a central location on the network to store the fonts.
[03:30] <delire> nbx909: can't xmms stream? i'm sure there are plugins
[03:30] <dylan_> !breezy
[03:30] <dylan_> ?
[03:30] <dbtsai> slove this sleep problem
[03:30] <nbx909> highvoltage, i have it and i use it to listen to my mp3s... is there a way to stream using it?
[03:30] <oga7876> who would have thought winxp installed fat32
[03:30] <mumbles> !ubnutuguide
[03:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, mumbles
[03:30] <tanki> Dorward, oh i know it doesn't have to use one, but it has one nevertheless.. it just seems like something only a very few people would use, which makes me wonder why they include it
[03:30] <nbx909> delire, how do you install plug-ins?
[03:31] <ptlo> ivoks! :)
[03:31] <tanki> i mean i vaguly remember identifying it once as running when i was auditing my system and closing unnecessary ports and it was runner
[03:31] <tanki> like, why would they enable that by default hehe
[03:31] <ivoks> ptlo: hi!
[03:31] <delire> nbx909: you copy them to your xmms plugins folder or install them via apt.
[03:31] <nbx909> ok
[03:31] <MoRpHe0> wenassss
[03:31] <nbx909> let me find it
[03:32] <nbx909> is xmms in /var/xmms or /home/name/.xmms ?
[03:32] <nbx909> er not var
[03:32] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, i think i have good news! i searched "iaxclient deb" and found http://lists.debian.org/debian-wnpp/2004/09/msg00233.html. someone debianized the iaxclient files.   That's not a useful combination!
[03:34] <Eko> i get a tempory failure in name resolution every time i boot up Ubuntu whats causing this and how can i solve it
[03:34] <nbx909> i even used to it stream video in windows before
[03:35] <nbx909> ok thanks
[03:35] <tanki> eko, what's it trying to resolve?
[03:35] <delire> nbx909: np
[03:35] <nalioth> Eko: what is the name of your box?
[03:35] <reka> EnsignRedshirt: hehe.  no it isn't :)
[03:35] <delire> has anyone here had an issue with a USB storage device not automounting on Hoary?
[03:35] <kaktos> could someone give a source.list with brazilian repositories?
[03:35] <Eko> dont know what its trying to resolve?
[03:36] <nalioth> Eko: what is the name of your box?
[03:36] <tanki> you can just link your name to localhost (which is also one of the ways we used to block/break web ads)
[03:36] <delire> nalioth: seen this? http://usefulinc.com/edd/blog/contents/2005/06/17-monopod/read
[03:36] <devios> rasputnik: can't openoffice print to pdf too?
[03:36] <oga7876> hehe... i've been playing with ubuntu for 6 months on and off on my pc and now its installing the base system on my laptop... all these programs/packages that i've had to fuck around with over the past 6 months flashing past really quickly
[03:36] <delire> nalioth: a great little app. very tidy.
[03:37] <kaktos> i need a repositories list plz
[03:37] <tanki> oga, you'll go nuts if you try to keep track of them all :)
[03:37] <delire> devios: yes it does export pdf
[03:37] <tanki> oga, what you should do is just install everything and remove what you dont like afterwards
[03:37] <oga7876> nah... just the ones i've recognised
[03:37] <oga7876> fair enough
[03:37] <reka> EnsignRedshirt: you could change the controls in theme details....but then it isn't really "pure" simple is it?
[03:37] <ed1t> suse sucks
[03:37] <nalioth> delire so i see, but i guess i'm boring and not "with it"
[03:37] <oga7876> but every time i'm afraid i'll break it... i know its' easy to fix but it's a hassle
[03:37] <tanki> oga, yeah i know what you mean, sometimes i stroll /bin and /usr/bin and i get a tear in my eye.. so many memories
[03:38] <kaktos> i need a repositories list plz!!!!!!!!!!
[03:38] <zAo^> how can I play DVDs?
[03:38] <zAo^> kaktos, tried www.ubuntuguide.org??
[03:38] <oga7876> i don't mind breaking it again and again the first time i try to get something working
[03:38] <oga7876> but i don't want to break it afterwards again
[03:38] <delire> nalioth: you mean 'podcasting'? i didn't really 'get it' until i tried. it's not a bad medium, if you could call it that.
[03:38] <Garrison> Oh thats just charming, I've spent 2 hours trying to remove the nforce audio OSS thing, yet, it still works. It's still putting out.. SOB
[03:38] <reka> kaktos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:38] <nalioth> delire: i dont seem to have the time to listen to stuff
[03:39] <reka> kaktos: jsut prepend the urls with br
[03:39] <ed1t> nalioth, i got xp, ubuntu and suse installed, but since suse is the last distro i installed, the grub loader is from suse, if i format suse's partition, will i be able to get the grub loader for ubuntu?
[03:39] <EnsignRedshirt> reka: I'll do some experimenting with that.  Strange that the problem only appears in firefox.
[03:39] <tanki> oga, it's better to break something right after a fresh install than it is 6 months later when you have everything customized
[03:39] <reka> kaktos: e.g. br.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:39] <zAo^> ed1t, did you share the /boot?
[03:39] <oga7876> true that
[03:39] <ed1t> i dont remember now
[03:39] <nalioth> ed1t: just edit your grubs menu.lst in suse and add the info for the ubuntu partition
[03:39] <osity> does anyone have raid1 knowledge in ubuntu ....??
[03:40] <zAo^> sorry osity
[03:40] <tanki> the first time i ran linux, at around 4am the hard drive started to cycle i thought i was being hacked into so i re-installed
[03:40] <kaktos> reka, ill try
[03:40] <oga7876> btw.. has anybody every had a problem with the screen flashing on and off during install on an asus laptop......
[03:40] <nalioth> tanki: those are just the midnight elves, hard at work
[03:40] <Garrison> reka, and idea how to set the terminal font?
[03:40] <oga7876> i've got it hooked to a monitor instead atm
[03:40] <reka> tanki: it was probably updating the slocate database :)
[03:40] <oga7876> but the colours are all wack
[03:40] <delire> zAo^: install libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 et al
[03:40] <zAo^> oga7876, I had that on my laptop (not Asus though)
[03:40] <reka> Garrison: edit > current profile
[03:40] <oga7876> wierd
[03:40] <tanki> oh now you tell me, where were you 6 years ago!
[03:40] <tanki> when i needed this little bit of info
[03:41] <reka> Garrison: that's if you're using gnome-terminal
[03:41] <tanki> :)
[03:41] <Garrison> .. I meant the boot-terminal
[03:41] <zAo^> delire, libdvdrss2 is not in the Breezy repo. I installed the hoary one, still cant play DVDs
[03:41] <bigfoot1> rasputnik, if this debianized version of iaxclient works for me, how do all the things i did with the CVS files?
[03:41] <ed1t> nalioth, yea but i am gonna format suse's paritition, so wats the point of editing menu.lst from suse?
[03:41] <delire> zAo^: 'mplayer dvd://' to be sure.
[03:41] <ed1t> i can access ubuntu from suse's grub loader
[03:41] <reka> Garrison: boot-terminal?  do you mean console? like where you're not in X?
[03:41] <zAo^> delire, no codec..
[03:41] <dylan_> how do i use fakeroot -i to install LimeWire?
[03:41] <tanki> does ubuntu use grub as the bootloader or lilo?
[03:42] <Garrison> reka; yes
[03:42] <Garrison> reka: ie. CTRL+ALT+F1
[03:42] <reka> Garrison: you need set vga in grub's menu.lst
[03:42] <reka> *need to set
[03:42] <nalioth> ed1t: after you are done wiping suse, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows   and get your grub/ubuntu back
[03:42] <Seveas> tanki, grub by default
[03:42] <xenox> hi
[03:42] <reka> Garrison: Seveas can help you out with that
[03:42] <oga7876> hey zao^ with the flashing... did it go away after?
[03:42] <tanki> Seveas, yeah it seems grub is the default for everyone these days.. is lilo still included?
[03:42] <zeenix> hello
[03:43] <Seveas> tanki, yes
[03:43] <zAo^> lo zeenix
[03:43] <dylan_> how do i install the limewire rpm to the correct folders?
[03:43] <zAo^> oga7876, yes. After the install and reboot it was gone.
[03:43] <zeenix> how do i scp to a ubuntu system as root?
[03:43] <oga7876> kthnx
[03:43] <bigfoot1> how do i search the repos in terminal? what command?
[03:43] <zeenix> there is no 'root' user in ubuntu, right?
[03:43] <tahorg> grub is so better than lilo. I wonder why so many people still use lilo
[03:43] <nalioth> dylan_: rpms are not hte best solution, but it should install where it is supposed to
[03:43] <rg58sma> hii
[03:43] <Seveas> zeenix, you will have to enable root ssh logins
[03:43] <rg58sma> good morning
[03:44] <Seveas> bigfoot1, apt-cache search
[03:44] <reka> bigfoot1: apt-cache search <keywords>
[03:44] <kaktos> how should i edit my sources.list
[03:44] <tanki> Seveas, i still fancy lilo but i'm an old dog hehe
[03:44] <kaktos> ?
[03:44] <rg58sma> hiii
[03:44] <Seveas> kaktos, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:44] <Eko> when i boot into Ubuntu i cant see anything and the screen is just amde up of flashing squares cant access the console through ctrl-alt-f1 either, any ideas?
[03:44] <kaktos> i mean, what should i pu there?
[03:44] <rg58sma> i need a program to sinchronizing audio and video
[03:45] <kaktos> im on brazil, which repositories should i include?
[03:45] <zAo^> Eko, tried failsafe bootup?
[03:45] <Seveas> kaktos: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:45] <reka> kaktos: i already told you
[03:45] <nalioth> reka: help Eko with VESA, please
[03:45] <bigfoot1> according to http://lists.debian.org/debian-wnpp/2004/09/msg00233.html, iaxclient is available for apt-get from mentors.debian.com. I've already added mentors.debian.com to my sources. list, but it doesn't seem to be in the repository. Can anyone help?
[03:45] <tanki> Seveas, i remember once a hacker friend of mine had his video card die overnight and he had to retrieve a phone number from a contact list on his computer (the computer wasn't networked) and he used lilo and blindy beeped out the phone number with just shell script heh
[03:46] <Seveas> tanki, lol :)
[03:46] <tanki> i still even remember the code because i've told this story so many times
[03:46] <kaktos> reka, should i insert that link on the sources.list?
[03:46] <reka> kaktos: yes, just prepend the urls with br. to use the brazilian mirrors.
[03:47] <delire> Seveas: sorry to pester, how would you say the USB storage device automounting is in Hoary? we are setting up many public terminals with Hoary here for a festival, in barcelona. we need to know whether we can expect the odd issue.
[03:47] <kaktos> hmmm so i have a greater problem
[03:47] <reka> kaktos: e.g. http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/*
[03:47] <kaktos> coz the amsn isnt in those repositories
[03:47] <Seveas> delire, very good
[03:48] <Seveas> I personall never encounterd problems with it
[03:48] <delire> Seveas: great news.
[03:48] <zAo^> delire, my external USB hdd does automount
[03:48] <reka> Eko: you could try editing the grub boot line by pressing 'e' at the grub menu and then add vga=ask to the end of the line
[03:48] <tanki> delire, what kind of festival?
[03:48] <Seveas> delire, problems do arise sometimes when using non-standard kernels
[03:48] <delire> Seveas: i have three USB storage devices here and all have worked fine.
[03:48] <Eko> ok i will try that
[03:48] <reka> Eko: you can then try the different framebuffers to hopefully get something that works
[03:48] <Eko> hmm ok
[03:49] <nalioth> delire: i think it depends on brand of usb stick and/or "operator headspace"
[03:49] <Garrison> Seveas: do you know of a list of terminal font sizes? (ie. 0x31b, etc)
[03:49] <Eko> brb :) hopefully something will work
[03:49] <delire> Seveas: a few months ago there were people here with problems in this area, that may have been warty albeit.
[03:49] <Seveas> Garrison, sorry I don't understand waht you mean
[03:50] <osity> can someone that has software raid setup please message me
[03:50] <delire> tanki: a copyleft licensing and copyleft music/software festival
[03:50] <EnsignRedshirt> reka: I switched the theme controls, and firefox now looks fine.  Thanks for the suggestion!
[03:50] <kaktos> i need a wider list of repositories
[03:50] <Garrison> Seveas: a while back I found a page with a table, showing rows and columns. and what the hex-code was for it.
[03:50] <Seveas> Garrison, ah
[03:50] <tanki> sounds exciting delire, will there be alcohol served?
[03:50] <reka> Garrison: that's what i'm googling for :)
[03:50] <kaktos> those in the souce.list in my ubuntu dun have almost anything i need =/
[03:50] <Seveas> I don't know of such a thing, but am interested :)
[03:50] <tanki> free music, free beer :P
[03:50] <delire> tanki: why of course, GPL beer ;)
[03:51] <Garrison> reka: I found it a while ago, set it to the highest, then pulled my 6800GT-OC out, put in a Ti4600, and now it errors on boot.
[03:51] <kaktos> would someone send me the source.list?
[03:51] <Seveas> Garrison, reka google gave me this: http://www.antlinux.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[03:51] <reka> Garrison: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer_Support
[03:51] <Seveas> kaktos: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:51] <kaktos> is there any problem if i dun use the one from my country?
[03:52] <tanki> delire, now all we need are GPL'd girls and I would be there :)
[03:52] <osity> is anyone running raid 1 in here?
[03:52] <kaktos> Seveas, that page couldnt be found
[03:52] <reka> Seveas: eek you're fast :)
[03:52] <tanki> i'll be the one dancing the salsa with a fine looking blonde in one hand and a stuffed penguin in the other
[03:52] <osity> it's raid 1 in heeere ...so take of all your clothes!
[03:52] <delire> tanki: hmm.. i don't know if i want anyone else freely distributing my girlfriend, making changes and distributing those modifications again.
[03:52] <chroot_> Hi!
[03:52] <chroot_> Wie bekomme ich grub von der hdd und ausm MBR?
[03:52] <IFRFLYR> Anyone know of a good WINDOWS based WEP cracker?
[03:52] <reka> Garrison: in my experience, the 1024x768 is the best
[03:53] <Garrison> Seveas, reka: That's the exact page I had found before.
[03:53] <Garrison> reka: thanks!
[03:53] <zeenix> Seveas, thanks, but any idea how do it do it?
[03:53] <reka> Garrison: but, i couldn't work out how to get around the 60Hz refresh rate
[03:53] <chroot_> how to get rid of grub in MBR and on hdd
[03:53] <Nermal> back
[03:53] <chroot_> sry .. german :D
[03:53] <reka> Garrison: which i can't stand
[03:53] <osity> IFRFLYR: i know a good whole wheat cracker.....
[03:53] <Nermal> please flood me with your ambigous questions
[03:53] <tanki> delire, good point :)
[03:53] <IFRFLYR> Mmm!
[03:53] <tanki> Nermal, the meaning of life?? go!
[03:53] <[koji] > IFRFLYR: Make sure you're not in Florida :P
[03:53] <Garrison> reka: I run a Dell 1800FP, I really dont notice it either way.  (A good LCD I hope)
[03:55] <tanki> but they're really bright
[03:55] <reka> zAo^: well if you know how to change the console refresh rate, by all means share. :)
[03:55] <osity> are there any other channels that have ubuntu help?
[03:55] <reka> Garrison: well, it was a hp desktop.  don't know what that tells you :)
[03:55] <NoHope> osity, I know in spanish #ubuntu-es
[03:55] <reka> osity: there are ubuntu mirrors for other countries
[03:55] <reka> osity: and there's #kubuntu
[03:56] <tanki> would a monitor have that option in it's own internal menu settings?
[03:56] <osity> reka: whats kubuntu
[03:56] <tanki> osity, ubuntu molested by kde?
[03:56] <daniels> hi guys.  breezy's X is MAD BROKEN right now.  if you value your sanity, do not upgrade.  at all.
[03:56] <tanki> :)
[03:56] <Garrison> reka: store-bought shit blows anyway.  (With the exception of a few Dell laptops, Gateways, and AlienWare)
[03:56] <Seveas> Garrison, reka https://www.redhat.com/archives/shrike-list/2003-December/msg00080.html
[03:56] <reka> hehe. mad broken
[03:57] <tanki> daniels, if breezy is so bad why did they make such a cute name for it!
[03:57] <oga7876> does anybody know if it is possible/ how hard it is to install freebsd on the same partition as ubuntu?
[03:57] <qt2> tanki, to make up for the whore-y name of the hedgehog? ;)
[03:57] <daniels> breezy isn't bad, it's just that its X packages are ... fun right now.
[03:57] <qt2> bad pun... ;)
[03:57] <zeenix> anyone know how do i enable the root ssh login?
[03:57] <mumbles> Garrison what laptop would you recomend for a 700 pound price ?
[03:58] <delire> qt2: very poor, very very poor..
[03:58] <Seveas> daniels, what caused it?
[03:58] <tanki> daniels, i suppose some people think it's fun trying to eat soup with a knife too :)
[03:58] <qt2> delire, indeed indeed.
[03:58] <Garrison> reka: any idea how to make the penguin appear in the terminal? (at the top)
[03:58] <tanki> qt2, lol
[03:58] <martigan> anyone knows in what file you can edit the steps for cpu scaling ? :S
[03:58] <reka> Seveas: nice, thanks
[03:58] <chroot_> Hi!
[03:58] <qt2> delire, better than not acknowleging it at all.
[03:58] <Garrison> mumbles: whats that in $$?
[03:58] <NoHope> hi
[03:58] <Garrison> mumbles: estimate is fine
[03:58] <chroot_> how to uninstall grub from hdd?
[03:58] <mumbles> erm dunno
[03:58] <daniels> Seveas: me being stupid
[03:58] <Seveas> chroot_, what do you want in the boot sector?
[03:58] <daniels> Seveas: as usual
[03:58] <delire> qt2: perhaps ;)
[03:58] <Seveas> daniels, hehe
[03:59] <mumbles> 	 1,231.49 USD
[03:59] <tanki> i have to admit, linux has hurt my self-esteem
[03:59] <chroot_> Seveas: i want to uninstall grub from the hard disk
[03:59] <mumbles> from xe.com
[03:59] <reka> Garrison: i don't know if ths is what you're looking for, but maybe search around for "splash image"
[03:59] <chroot_> howtodo that?
[03:59] <Seveas> chroot_, ok, but then you have to put something else in the boot sector
[03:59] <Garrison> mumbles: gb-pounds?
[03:59] <Seveas> like lilo or the windows boot loader
[03:59] <chroot_> Seveas: using grub unto gentoo
[03:59] <zeenix> Seveas, ?
[03:59] <mumbles> 700
[03:59] <Seveas> zeenix..?
[04:00] <osity> kubuntu is a dead channel
[04:00] <Garrison> mumbles: 1,231.67 US-$
[04:00] <chroot_> i only wany to get rid of grub from this hdd .. on gentoo there is grub already installed
[04:00] <tanki> if windows goes bad it gets angry and abuses you.. but if linux goes bad it stays happy and just makes you feel bad about yourself... it's like worse than a mother-in-law at times
 anyone know how do i enable the root ssh login?
[04:00] <Garrison> mumbles: you could get something REALLY nice for that price.
[04:00] <Seveas> chroot_, then remove the grub package
[04:00] <chroot_> who>
[04:00] <mumbles> yeh pitry i havent got it yet :P
[04:00] <chroot_> how>?
[04:00] <action09> zeenix  in /etc/sshd_config  PermitRootLogin yes
[04:00] <zeenix> Seveas, that would be something in pam configs?
[04:00] <qt2> mumbles, er, go get the cheapest laptop option at alienware.com ;)
[04:00] <chroot_> Seveas:  how to remove that?
[04:00] <mumbles> want to start saving up for one
[04:00] <zeenix> ah
[04:00] <action09> zeenix  and /etc/init.d/sshd reload
[04:00] <Seveas> zeenix, look at what action09 said. You need to enable the root password too
[04:00] <Seveas> chroot_, aptitude purge grub
[04:01] <pepsix> hrm
[04:01] <tanki> zeenix, nah pam i think is intended to control local auth
[04:01] <mumbles> also want one that will allow me to use ubuntu on it
[04:01] <osity> qt2: fujitsu notebooks at www.silicondirect.com  cheap canadian site
[04:01] <pepsix> someone said xorg -35 was bad.. but i never even saw it in the repository
[04:01] <qt2> Garrison, you want to have a background image for your console?
[04:01] <chroot_> bash: aptitude: command not found
[04:01] <chroot_> Seveas: ??
[04:01] <pepsix> im guessing -36 fixed the problem
[04:01] <Seveas> pepsix, it's only for breezy
[04:01] <qt2> osity, eh?
[04:01] <kaktos> when i ran apt-get update it gives me errors....
[04:01] <chroot_> oh mom
[04:01] <osity> qt2: ya
[04:01] <pepsix> Seveas, i know ;)
[04:01] <Seveas> chroot_, sudo apt-get remove --purge grub
[04:01] <qt2> osity, what about it?
[04:01] <osity> qt2: do you know raid 1?
[04:01] <Garrison> qt2, not background, but rather on the top-left (or sometimes right) there's a little penguin.
[04:01] <tanki> zeenix, like for example say you wanted to increase the amount of characters used to login to your linux box, you would hack pam
[04:02] <mirak> there is a problem with toolchain, to compile a cross gcc, I have this problem, either on powerpc or i386 !
[04:02] <mumbles> also need a site that ships to uk
[04:02] <qt2> Garrison, err, its in the foreground?
[04:02] <qt2> osity, why do you ask
[04:02] <Seveas> mirak, try #ubuntu-toolchain
[04:02] <qt2> ?
[04:02] <Garrison> qt2, yeah, kinda... Um.. Let me see if I can find a good screen-shot somewhere
[04:02] <osity> qt2: cuz i need help setting it up
[04:02] <Seveas> that channel is quite quiet so you might have to wait a while for an answer
[04:02] <delire> Seveas: wasn't aware this channel existed
[04:03] <tanki> be careful around the quiet ones
[04:03] <tanki> they're the most likely to snap at any moment
[04:03] <Seveas> :)
[04:03] <mumbles> this one is nice and active..
[04:03] <mumbles> and good help from evyeone
[04:03] <tanki> a penguin is nice but imagine it charging at you at 50mph
[04:03] <Garrison> qt2: here: http://www.a-yu.com/pub/boot.jpg
[04:03] <ashok> can somebody help me
[04:04] <Garrison> ashok: if we can.
[04:04] <ashok> i am unable to open movie files
[04:04] <Seveas> ashok: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[04:04] <Garrison> ashok: what type of movie?
[04:04] <delire> ashok: you need the w32codecs
[04:04] <zeenix> Seveas, just `sudo passwd` did the trick
[04:04] <tanki> ashok, what are you using to open them
[04:04] <Garrison> ashok: sudo apt-get install xine
[04:04] <ashok> i am using totem
[04:05] <Garrison> ashok: or gxine
[04:05] <ashok> its .dat files
[04:05] <mumbles> just found out why my room smelt so bad
[04:05] <Garrison> ashok: ... an imcompleted Kazaa (or of that type) download?
[04:05] <qt2> you were in it? :o
[04:05] <Seveas> mumbles, you have to take a shower..?
[04:05] <qt2> lol
[04:05] <tanki> mumbles, my cat sneezed when it sniffed my computer chair once
[04:05] <tanki> i took that as a sign
[04:06] <ashok> thanks for the tips guys, i will try xine
[04:06] <mumbles> no had a 1/4 full can of fullers london pride wedged between 2 folders
[04:06] <tanki> by the way, 3 hours until the space launch!
[04:06] <ashok> i have installed the w32codecs
[04:06] <Garrison> ashok: that wont be all you need, it's just a good player. Loads... Shit-loads better then totem
[04:06] <londonboi2k3> Afternoon guys
[04:06] <tanki> what's a fuller
[04:07] <mumbles> beer maker
[04:07] <ashok> oki, so xine should do the trick ?
[04:07] <mumbles> forog tohow to spell it
[04:07] <reka> there's a few brits in here today
[04:07] <Garrison> ashok: do you have multi-verse in your rep. list?
[04:07] <mumbles> yeh but onley one with realy badd typos and spelling
[04:07] <tanki> ashok, if you have the w32codecs installed, then xine or mplayer or any capable linux video player should play them
[04:08] <haven_> Was wondering if anybody can offer help with interuser mail
[04:08] <ashok> garrison, sorry , wats multi-verse ?
[04:08] <mumbles> unless your sound isent reconlised buy ubuntu yet
[04:08] <londonboi2k3> Apt is just upgrading to Breezy, doing this by ssh from work, hope nothing breaks too much :)
[04:08] <delire> ashok: they are not innately included as they are proprietary, non-free software
[04:08] <tanki> ashok, just make sure what you're trying to play is a video fil eheh
[04:08] <ashok> and wats rep list ?
[04:08] <Seveas> londonboi2k3, X will break
[04:08] <osity> raid 1 setup help please
[04:08] <Seveas> londonboi2k3, X is massively broken right now
[04:08] <mumbles> opss :p
[04:08] <el_kato> is there a program like "netlimiter" for linux?
[04:08] <ashok> yes, its video file.. i am able to play it in windows
[04:08] <londonboi2k3> hmm, really, any way round that?
[04:09] <delire> londonboi2k3: usually an upgrade to openssh-server will restart sshd, but this barely leaves you without a connection. x may break though.
[04:09] <Seveas> londonboi2k3, yes :)
[04:09] <tanki> would i be beat up if i say ubuntu is cooler than debian?
[04:09] <pepsix> X always breaks when you install breezy
[04:09] <Seveas> don't use breezy :)
[04:09] <delire> s/barely/rarely
[04:09] <qt2> Garrison, only happens on bootup?
[04:09] <pepsix> its fun
[04:09] <reka> tanki: not in here.
[04:09] <acid2> www.mplayerhq.hu
[04:09] <reka> tanki: #debian on the other hand :)
[04:09] <Garrison> qt2: it's always in the actual console
[04:09] <acid2> Garrison, its all there
[04:09] <londonboi2k3> lol, well it will be fun, i need to reinstall that pc anyway, so just want to see what happens :)
[04:09] <tanki> reka, i was hunting for linux related posters to decorate my computer room and i found some funny ones
[04:09] <ashok> garrison, i did install w32codecs
[04:10] <acid2> ashok, put them in the right place?
[04:10] <qt2> Garrison, i was thinking it might be linuxlogo but...
[04:10] <tanki> reka, http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/debian.jpg
[04:10] <Eko> none of the vga options change anything, how do i change the buffers?
[04:11] <blmartin777> how do I change the theme for root?
[04:11] <tanki> http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/ubuntu.jpg
[04:11] <blmartin777> in gnome
[04:11] <Seveas> Eko, the vga options only change the conxoles...
[04:11] <gluon> any suggestions for a movie player, other than totem and/or vlc?
[04:11] <Seveas> consoles...
[04:11] <Seveas> and only when rebooting
[04:11] <zeenix> thanks guys
[04:11] <tanki> gluon, mplayer and xine come to mine
[04:11] <qt2> Garrison, are you using a framebuffer console?
[04:11] <tanki> s/mine/mind
[04:11] <Eko> hmm
[04:11] <haven_> anybody help with interuser mail?
[04:11] <gluon> tanki, mplayer is great but i'd like to have a gtk2 frontend
[04:12] <tanki> hmm i dont know about gtk2 but i think xine has gxine
[04:12] <qt2> gluon, i thought there was a gtk frontend written for mplayer...
[04:12] <tanki> might be a gtk+ frontend tho
[04:13] <gluon> koke, i'll check those out... thank you both
[04:13] <tanki> http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/slackware.jpg haha
[04:13] <tanki> so funny, so true
[04:13] <delire> gluon: gmplayer
[04:14] <delire> gluon: if compiling: './configure --enable-gui'
[04:14] <mirak> Seveas lol thanks, what a surprise
[04:14] <tanki> reka, well in general if you measure a distro based on the people in the channel, i think ubuntu beats out debian
[04:15] <Garrison> qt2: brb, I'm going to see if it did anything.
[04:15] <hmrocha> Hello
[04:15] <reka> tanki: hehe.  you shouldn't always trust majority numbers
[04:15] <delire> tanki: you can't measure a distro's popularity based on users in an IRC channel, or distrowatch.org.
[04:15] <hmrocha> I'd like to ssh to a machine without being asked for a password
[04:15] <reka> tanki: look how many people are using windows. :)
[04:16] <luzbelito> hi i cant burn dvd with k3b cd kreator. pls help. it says unknow error 255, looking in web and no solution yet.,
[04:16] <Seveas> hmrocha, use ssh keys, ssh-agent and ssh-add
[04:16] <delire> tanki: have you looked at #windows? ;)
[04:16] <hmrocha> I executed the ssh-keygen -t rsa on this computer
[04:16] <tanki> delire, yeah but i'm more likely to try ubuntu than debian because i feel like i'm being embraced here, on a technical and spiritual level
[04:16] <Seveas> or (shiver) passwordless ssh keys
[04:16] <delire> tanki: you're not wrong there. ubuntu has a better community of users, yes.
[04:16] <tanki> it needs more blondes tho
[04:17] <tanki> you can never have enough blondes.. i suggest we try to recruit airline stewartesses
[04:17] <qt2> tanki, err... theres over 250 more people in #debian than here...
[04:17] <hmrocha> Seveas, i've connected to the machine i want and inserted my public key into authorized_keys
[04:17] <tanki> we'll get them hooked on linux's wifi support
[04:17] <luzbelito> anyone can helo me to burn dvd?
[04:17] <qt2> tanki, and either way... #gentoo beats them both. ;)
[04:18] <tanki> i haven't been in their channel
[04:18] <qt2> luzbelito, get k3b from synaptic.
[04:18] <cemil> anyone, who has AMD64bit Ubuntu?
[04:18] <qt2> Garrison, see if what did anything...? <.<;
[04:18] <Poromies> cemil: yes o/
[04:18] <Eko> can anyone help me, all i see is coloured squares on the login screen and even when i try to access the console its just shows grey squares??
[04:18] <tanki> Poromies, do you have the fx-51 amd chip
[04:18] <Garrison> qt2: that was a no go: passed an undefined mode number, press <enter> for a list, or press space to continue
[04:19] <Poromies> no, i have Turion
[04:19] <Garrison> I tried the vga= line, but it didn't do anything.
[04:19] <reka> delire: #windows: population 8
[04:19] <Poromies> its that new mobile model
[04:19] <qt2> Garrison, ...err... who told you to try that? :P
[04:19] <reka> :)
[04:19] <tanki> Poromies, oh no it's one of the first amd 64bit chips to come out.. desktop
[04:19] <reka> delire: thought there would be more people with problems in there...
[04:19] <Garrison> qt2: I did: vga=0x164
[04:19] <xbalanque> hi all, I wanted to have gnome load an .Xmodmap file during initialization of the session, do you know of a way to do this ? I remembered it opened a dialog window asking that once, but I was not able to access that window again :(
[04:19] <smite> hi - what's a quick way to tell if a linux box has usb 1.1 or 2.0?
[04:20] <reka> qt2: i did
[04:20] <qt2> reka, ahhh.. :P
[04:20] <reka> qt2: he wanted to "change the font"
[04:20] <reka> qt2: i thought that was what he wanted.
[04:20] <tanki> smite, i dont know but you can check the logs, in /var/log/
[04:20] <tanki> maybe it's there
[04:20] <qt2> reka, err... he wants to remove an image from the console.... :o
[04:21] <qt2> Garrison, are you using a framebuffer console?
[04:21] <Garrison> qt2, reka: That is what I want. But it's being all bitchy about it. I'll suffer without my little penguin for now, I just hate that 300x200 font
[04:21] <smite> tanki: ok... hm or maybe dmesg
[04:21] <Garrison> qt2: how do I tell?
[04:21] <reka> qt2: err..looks like he wants to fix his font first
[04:21] <tanki> dmesg is nice but it's only a small buffer, so your usb stuff might have already been scrolled out
[04:21] <qt2> reka, ah... XD
[04:21] <tanki> so it's better to check the written ones, i think dmesg even has its own log
[04:21] <smite> tanki: what log file should i check?
[04:22] <qt2> reka, sorry, all i saw him mention was the penguin... :P
[04:22] <reka> qt2: he's using ctrl+alt+f1 to get into console iirc
[04:22] <osity> software raid help needed!@
[04:22] <smite> none of them look particularly relevant
[04:22] <tanki> smite, offhand i'd say whichever log syslogd sends kernel.* priority messages too
[04:22] <reka> qt2: is that a framebuffer console?
[04:22] <Garrison> reka: it's the console used when booting.
[04:22] <reka> Garrison: oh, so you disabled gdm?
[04:22] <tanki> smite, basically what gets sent to /var/log is whatever is listed in /etc/syslog.conf
[04:22] <Garrison> reka: before gdm is loaded, when its mounting, when it's initializing modules, etc.
[04:23] <Garrison> reka: there's a way you can set that font by appending vga=0x*** to the kernel line in boot.lst
[04:23] <tanki> i'm just guessing about kernel though, i'm not sure what usb would be catagorized under, maybe daemon too
[04:23] <reka> Garrison: yeah...changing the vga mode should affect the text you see at that time
[04:23] <reka> Garathor: so that didn't work?
[04:23] <smite> /var/log/messages
[04:23] <delire> reka: hehe windows has no community. 100's of 1000's of people right now with problems, none of which will be heard.
[04:24] <reka> delire: i'm guesing most of them don't know what IRC is anyway.
[04:24] <Fumoffu> bonjour :)
[04:24] <delire> reka: similarly when various surveys are done on the relative security of linux vs windows, the number of known bugs are counted. m$ does not publish their bugs/vulnerabilities unless absolutely necessary. hence linux appears to be less secure at a cursory count. we all know that's not true albeit.
[04:24] <tanki> yeah but i wouldn't be critical of those people either
[04:24] <Garrison> reka: my NFORCE PROBLEM FIXED ITSELF!! WOOHOOO!!!
[04:25] <haven_> Can anyone help with telling GDM to drop to the console?
[04:25] <tanki> afterall, does your mom know how to re-build her automobile's engine?
[04:25] <tanki> does that make her stupid
[04:25] <reka> Garrison: sound fixed?  i thought you were doing fonts now. :)
[04:25] <Garrison> reka: that's just it, I was screwing with fonts, rebooted, then that nvidia shit dissapeared.
[04:25] <reka> Garrison: heh
[04:25] <dylan_> is there any type of software that will enlarge the size of a file?
[04:25] <tanki> believe it or not there are people out there that just want their computer to perform task A and task B and aren't concerned about the technical side of it
[04:26] <sJaM> enlarge the size of a file ?
[04:26] <Discipulus> What up PEOPLE?
[04:26] <tanki> until something goes wrong.. in which case they offer a caffeinated beverage to their company's computer guy or geeky friend to fix it
[04:26] <delire> dylan_: hehe just write a whole bunch of 0's in there.
[04:26] <reka> Garrison: i'd still be wondering wtf happened though :)
[04:26] <haven_> Can anyone help with telling GDM to drop to the console?
[04:26] <mumbles> (tanki) believe it or not there are people out there that just want their computer to perform task A and task B and aren't concerned about the technical side of it --- wtf thats what makes it fun
[04:27] <sJaM> for what purpose you want to have it enlarged ?
[04:27] <Garrison> reka: Ubuntu has taught me not to dwell on details.
[04:27] <sJaM> dylan_,  for what purpose you want to have it enlarged ?
[04:27] <Garrison> reka: "dont ask, dont tell, just accept and be happy"
[04:28] <luzbelito> qt2: i get k3b, installed it but it can't burn dvd: returns error 225 and stops
[04:28] <reka> Garrison: so you're a "bash the tv on the side" type of person? :D
[04:28] <Garrison> reka: I've kicked a $2000 machine out the 2nd floor window because Windows wouldn't enable directdraw.
[04:29] <Discipulus> Garrison, heh
[04:29] <sJaM> ?
[04:29] <reka> Garrison: i'm a "f*** it, reinstall time" person unfortunately. :)
[04:29] <Discipulus> Garrison, you paid for it?
[04:29] <londonboi2k3> guys, just a question, I have created a dyndns script to update my ip address, how where do i need to put it to load on reboot, say as the last thing before X to start?
[04:29] <Garrison> All: Yeah, but I made a better system.
[04:29] <hondje> I love expensing
[04:29] <Garrison> Then went LuBix
[04:29] <Discipulus> heh
[04:29] <tanki> mumbles, all i know is i had a humble experience when i ran into an automechanic friend of mine and he started talking shop with me.. i was so lost
[04:29] <tanki> but he was just as lost when i talk computers
[04:29] <delire> londonboi2k3: use /etc/init.d and then update-rc.d (read manpages about the latter)
[04:30] <londonboi2k3> dellire: Thanks :)