[04:11] <Kyral> nalioth: it will give all the kernel-source packages
[04:11] <paulproteus|lapt> phreak97: That should fix many common failures.
[04:11] <daki> nalioth:freetype.  But, I kept libfreetype6 installed, and they conflict I guess
[04:11] <Wammy> kernel-source-2.4.27, 2.6.10,2.6.11
[04:11] <phreak97> it uninstalled alot of crap, it uninstalled gimp and evance, those are what i've found
[04:11] <phreak97> ok, ill do that
[04:12] <nalioth> daki: what is the matter with ubuntu's freetype and freetype2?
[04:13] <haasteem> hi, i am in the process of upgradading from hoary to breezy
[04:13] <daki> nalioth:Well, I noticed the fonts looked better with bci compiled versions of this.  I'm still a little confused about the whole bci thing, but I know the fonts just look better
[04:13] <Wammy> nalioth, i get: kernel-source-2.4.27, 2.6.10,2.6.11
[04:13] <haasteem> i downloaded all through synaptic from the repositories
[04:13] <haasteem> and installed
[04:13] <nalioth> Wammy: you need the last one you posted
[04:13] <pashaw> Wammy,   linux-source
[04:13] <haasteem> rebooted, and now i have a problem with X
[04:14] <Kyral> haasteem: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:14] <daki> nalioth:Well, if I need to just download each .deb individually, that's cool, I just thought there was a way to have apt ignore this error
[04:14] <nalioth> daki: the ubuntu freetype and freetype2 aren't to your liking?
[04:14] <haasteem> it says: fatal server error: could not open default font'fixed'
[04:14] <Wammy> ok there we go
[04:14] <haasteem> what is the problem? and how can i solve it?
[04:14] <pashaw> Wammy,   sorry was getting left over pie
[04:14] <phreak97> should ubuntu-base be installed?
[04:15] <Kyral> phreak97: YES
[04:15] <m0biu5> so, have there been many ipod questions lately?
[04:15] <pashaw> m0biu5,  no they all work :P       yes
[04:15] <phreak97> lol
[04:15] <daki> nalioth:They are good.  But lately my picky side has taken over, so If another distro has nicer fonts, I get all obsessive.
[04:15] <phreak97> ubuntu desktop wasnt installed either
[04:15] <m0biu5> pashaw im afraid I have one as well =/
[04:16] <Kyral> phreak97: install ubuntu-desktop
[04:16] <phreak97> but i wasnt having many problems
[04:16] <nalioth> daki: my advice to you, is to build those packages from source
[04:16] <phreak97> i couldnt using the arrow keys in a game, but thats about it
[04:16] <humbled_smartass> ok...lol im almost done reinstalling
[04:17] <humbled_smartass> no more sudo chmod until i know what i can and cant chmod...
[04:17] <phreak97> humbled_smartass,  i know the feeling
[04:17] <m0biu5> pashaw, do you know how I can mount the ipod so its writable?
[04:17] <borisattva> has anyone experienced rhythmbox crashing when trying to import LAN directories?
[04:17] <humbled_smartass> lol phreak... i doubt it
[04:17] <haasteem> by the way, i tried to solve it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... didn't work
[04:17] <cafuego> m0biu5: Traditionally you just plug it in.
[04:17] <phreak97> i did chmod 755 /
[04:18] <Kyral> haasteem: apt-cache search for font fixed
[04:18] <humbled_smartass> unless you have chmodd 774 your entire /usr directory
[04:18] <phreak97> i needed a reinstall after that
[04:18] <humbled_smartass> 744
[04:18] <phreak97> whats 744?
[04:18] <daki> nalioth: hmmm. You mean download the source from ubuntu, or could I download the latest source.  And if I can get the latest source the library has, wouldn't I still have problems with conflicting packages
[04:18] <Kyral> lol
[04:18] <pashaw> phreak97,  a mistake
[04:18] <nalioth> phreak97: leave chmod alone, please
[04:18] <humbled_smartass> root all access everyone else read
[04:18] <phreak97> lol
[04:18] <m0biu5> cafuego, I have the 5G ipod, so im not sure its like the rest
[04:18] <humbled_smartass> yeah i know nal
[04:18] <Kyral> he boned himself lol
[04:18] <humbled_smartass> i wont be doing that again
[04:18] <cafuego> m0biu5: it is.
[04:18] <m0biu5> cafuego, it says it cant write the database for the files =/
[04:18] <humbled_smartass> hence the name "humbled"
[04:18] <nalioth> daki: you can get the source from whatever distro's ftp site that has attracted your attention, and build it under ubuntu
[04:19] <haasteem> kyral: ok, and then?
[04:19] <humbled_smartass> no more sudo for me
[04:19] <humbled_smartass> lol
[04:19] <Kyral> haasteem: install the package?
[04:19] <nalioth> humbled_smartass: sudo is ok, just think before you use it
[04:19] <haasteem> kyral: ok
[04:19] <humbled_smartass> well... cept for apt-get and to chmod my /home directory
[04:19] <haasteem> will try
[04:19] <daki> nalioth: Okay, I'll look into that.  Thanks for your help
[04:19] <UFO> have enyone got the tv-out working on ati
[04:19] <nalioth> daki: any ???s, just come on back
[04:20] <m0biu5> cafuego, wish it worked =/
[04:20] <humbled_smartass> i can chmod /home right?
[04:20] <pashaw> humbled_smartass,   dont chmod anything
[04:20] <dabaR> phreak97: http://zernike.uwinnipeg.ca/~s_liao/Courses/2941/Week05.pdf
[04:20] <cafuego> humbled_smartass: You don't need to chmod /home
[04:20] <Kyral> damn I dunno the package
[04:20] <burnhamd> i have a question
[04:20] <poimen> someone here kwons were I can lern to write gtk programas
[04:20] <burnhamd> i installed kde and now the boot screen shows kubuntu can i change that
[04:21] <humbled_smartass> well i am gonna need to have read write access to create folders and move files and all that jive without having to do a sudo everytime first
[04:21] <Kyral> poimen: a book lol
[04:21] <electroweak> hi pashaw....
[04:21] <pashaw> electroweak,  hello
[04:21] <poimen> very funny
[04:21] <poimen> I mean something like in the net
[04:21] <Wammy> pashaw, now i imagine that since this used the current kernel to compile, if i update the kernel the driver will need to be recompiled right?
[04:21] <Kyral> poimen: Learning a language is no small task
[04:21] <electroweak> i wrote down the error report how can i deliver it to you
[04:21] <poimen> I kwon :(
[04:21] <electroweak> or should i submit somewhere else
[04:21] <Dwayne> burnhamd, which screen are you trying to change?
[04:21] <cafuego> !paste
[04:21] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:21] <pashaw> Wammy,   yes
[04:21] <poimen> but I must satrt soon
[04:22] <poimen> before the collage put me all the visual basic stuff in my mind
[04:22] <cafuego> Kyral: gtk is not a language
[04:22] <Wammy> pashaw, after i compile it how do i add it?
[04:22] <pashaw> Wammy,   first it working   then worry about another kernel
[04:22] <phreak97> whats this pdf for?
[04:22] <Kyral> cafuego: yah you are right. More like a crapload of bindiings to OTHER langs
[04:23] <pashaw> Wammy,   i didnt read it all but they   compile the module  against the kernel right    it will load itself  when its setup
[04:23] <dabaR> phreak97: bottom of it explains permissions
[04:23] <phreak97> holy shit this mustard is stong
[04:23] <xenex> i need help with my wireless card, it is a netgear wg511v2 (made in china version) and its not working
[04:23] <humbled_smartass> ok... someone made ubuntu tell me about some things that i no longer have bookmarked since i had to reinstall... i need to know how to mount ntfs drives, how to add to my sources.lst (whatever directory thats in), and how to add xine with all the restricted and freesource codecs
[04:23] <xenex> i have ndiswrapper but i dont know what to do
[04:24] <Kyral> humbled_smartass: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:24] <cyphase> why would i get this message when i play DVD's..
[04:24] <cyphase> The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[04:24] <cyphase> i'm playing it in totem
[04:24] <phreak97> ok
[04:24] <humbled_smartass> apt... thats what i was missing
[04:24] <Kyral> humbled_smartass: the Wiki is your guide
[04:24] <cyphase> and i installed libdvdcss according to the wiki
[04:24] <pashaw> Kyral,   dont teach him terminal commands  he is dangerous
[04:24] <Kyral> pashaw: lol
[04:24] <dabaR> consult the manual at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:24] <Wammy> pashaw, you mean: install -m 644 iteraid.ko /lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/scsi/ ?
[04:24] <xenex> dabaR, i got the lights blinking but it just wont connect to my network
[04:24] <humbled_smartass> yeah... someone made ubuntu tell me where to find that info in the wiki though
[04:24] <Kyral> pashaw: People learn by completely FUBARing thier systems :D
[04:24] <pashaw> !tell humbled_smartass about repositories
[04:25] <humbled_smartass> yeah
[04:25] <humbled_smartass> thats it
[04:25] <phreak97> is it actually possible to set up a wifi usb dongle as an access point?
[04:25] <dabaR> ya, on bluetooth
[04:25] <pashaw> !tell humbled_smartass about ntfs
[04:25] <pashaw> !tell humbled_smartass about restrictedformats
[04:25] <phreak97> dabaR,  i need 802.11b
[04:25] <pashaw> Wammy,   i didnt read it all follow what they did to fix it
[04:26] <flodine> anyone running pek here
[04:26] <alvanson> ...who's the infobot in here?
[04:26] <cafuego> phreak97: Only if the driver supports it. You *can* always run a network in ad-hoc mode.
[04:26] <Kyral> alvanson: ubotu
[04:26] <cafuego> !ubotu
[04:26] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[04:26] <alvanson> yay
[04:27] <phreak97> cafuego, i dunno if that works, i want to get my ds online
[04:27] <cafuego> ds?
[04:27] <cafuego> The citroen from the seventies?
[04:27] <phreak97> nintendo ds
[04:27] <dabaR> cafuego: ya, the citroen
[04:27] <tuv> i was just reading about the "HDD LED always on for SATA drives" bug and found out that it is not going to be fixed in breezy.. could someone explain why given that there is a solution?
[04:28] <cafuego> tuv: Irrelevant code change may affect system stability?
[04:28] <dabaR> tuv: what do you think?
[04:28] <Madpilot> tuv: my HDD LED never comes on at all w/ my SATA drives...
[04:29] <cafuego> Madpilot: Get tuv to update your bios
[04:29] <phreak97> i've plugged in the dongle, where do i look for it to see if it works under linux?
[04:29] <dabaR> cafuego: haha
[04:29] <electroweak> pashaw what should i do with my error report now
[04:30] <tuv> the bug is documented in bugzilla.ubuntu and it has a link to a kernel patch that solves it. it says it is going to be solved in drapper but not in breezy. breezy solution is to recompile your kernel after applying the patch yourself.. why couldn't this be done to breezy's kernel packages?
[04:30] <pashaw> !tell electroweak about pastebin
[04:30] <dabaR> tuv: they are stable
[04:30] <tuv> the bug is documented in bugzilla.ubuntu and it has a
[04:31] <dabaR> tuv: check out when they come into debian
[04:31] <cafuego> tuv: It's not a security fix, and as such has no business being in breezy.
[04:31] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[04:31] <cafuego> tuv: ONLY security fixes are allowed in. Not arbitrary functionality.
[04:31] <dabaR> tuv: its like a branch.
[04:31] <pashaw> tuv,   you cant be sure it wont break something else   thus they decided not to use it
[04:32] <dabaR> hi
[04:32] <junlp3r> !<install php4>
[04:32] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, junlp3r
[04:32] <krystoff> hi there i'm trying to compile a soft and i have this error ...
[04:32] <krystoff> error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:32] <krystoff> what am i missing please ?
[04:33] <sethk> krystoff, usually that means you don't have write permissions somewhere
[04:33] <cafuego> krystoff: experience?
[04:33] <sethk> krystoff, it can mean that the compiler is incorrectly installed
[04:33] <krystoff> ok do i need to configure as root ???
[04:33] <cafuego> krystoff: You need 'build-essential'. Also check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[04:33] <ara> hi. Just installed my brand new Ubuntu system. now could someone tell how to set the root password please?
[04:33] <cafuego> krystoff: No, don't run it as root.
[04:34] <krystoff> ok i think so
[04:34] <cafuego> ara: You don't need one. use 'sudo' after logging in as user./
[04:34] <xenex> what do i use to extract drivers from a exe
[04:34] <krystoff> i missed build-essentials
[04:34] <dabaR> I installed a samba domain, registered a computer on it, XP, and fixed my dhcp issue...
[04:34] <xenex> what do i use to extract drivers from a exe?
[04:34] <sethk> ara, sudo passwd
[04:34] <cafuego> xenex: unzip
[04:34] <dabaR> I had both interfaces to 192,168.0.1
[04:34] <xenex> unzip name.exe?
[04:34] <cafuego> dabaR: Hahaha :-)
[04:34] <krystoff> yes it's ok now
[04:34] <krystoff> thanks :)
[04:35] <dabaR> it was really silly, and I can not imagine how it happened
[04:35] <krystoff> oups
[04:35] <krystoff> no
[04:35] <tuv> my tty consoles are much smaller than the screen and last few lines are invisible.. looks like a frame buffer thing but i don't know how to fix it
[04:35] <ara> how do i use 'sudo'? i just need to find out what my root password is
[04:35] <cafuego> krystoff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[04:35] <krystoff> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:35] <ElitePete> !kde
[04:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[04:35] <dabaR> I only discovered cause I decided to use my patch cable to transfer some files, and I could not ping the othetr IP.
[04:35] <cafuego> ara: just type any command that needs to run as root and put 'sudo' in front of it. Use your OWN password.
[04:35] <dabaR> but once I saw it...
[04:35] <cafuego> !+compiling
[04:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[04:35] <dabaR> I was even at one point contemplating goign into windows to print some files.
[04:36] <Doomhammer> can someone tell me what the command to generate a config file for xorg is ?
[04:36] <cafuego> !xcfg
[04:36] <ubotu> xcfg is probably to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:36] <ara> any koss kesh here?
[04:36] <Doomhammer> thanks cafuego, the installer apparently fuxored the config :O it's displaying nothing but gibberish
[04:36] <ITSa341> Hello and Good Evening everyone
[04:36] <dabaR> how hard can it be to install an epson all in one for printing?
[04:37] <cafuego> dabaR: all-in-ones are notorious for being prorietary and crap
[04:37] <tuv> Doomhammer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:37] <xenex> how do i get files from a .exe???
[04:37] <ITSa341> <-- set up a Lexmark all-in-one in linspire   it was a pain
[04:37] <electroweak> pashaw i posted but posted under your name by accident i`m sorry
[04:37] <dabaR> cafuego: ya, and I bought one at some point...on some boxing day sale...
[04:37] <cafuego> xenex: if it's a self-extracting zip, use 'unzip'. if not, use WIndows.
[04:37] <cyphase> How do I make totem-xine play DVD's?
[04:37] <xenex> cafuego, ...i need the files on ubuntu not windows
[04:38] <cyphase> i installed libdvdcss like it says in the wiki
[04:38] <xenex> cafuego, and i dont have windows
[04:38] <cyphase> hmm
[04:38] <cyphase> i'll try that one
[04:38] <cafuego> xenex: Why did you download a windows executable then? Linux doesn't run those.
[04:38] <cyphase> thanx dabar
[04:38] <pashaw> electroweak,  just use the link to your pastebin  about X error
[04:38] <xenex> cafuego, I KNOW THAT! i need the exe for wireless card drivers
[04:38] <pashaw> electroweak,   ack  sorry
[04:38] <cafuego> xenex: Well then, like I said, use unzip or find a windows machine.
[04:38] <pashaw> electroweak,   give use the link to your X error
[04:38] <navarone> sheesh
[04:39] <cyphase> uhh, http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy didn't work
[04:39] <cyphase> can't find the DNS for it
[04:39] <cafuego> Yes, it's MY fault you bought incomparible hardware without first checking.
[04:40] <navarone> cafuego...he left...lol
[04:40] <tuv> how do i fix the console size (much smaller than the screen) for a geforce vga card?
[04:40] <cafuego> navarone: I know, just felt I should make my point ;-)
[04:40] <navarone> cafuego...he confused me as well
[04:40] <dabaR> haha
[04:40] <humbled_smartass> ok quick question... is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/ down?
[04:40] <navarone> cafuego...maybe he thinks he can use the windows drivers in linux...<shrug>
[04:41] <ITSa341> <-- has been confused for a week now
[04:41] <humbled_smartass> because i cant connect to get the winmac_fstab file
[04:41] <cafuego> navarone: No, he said he knew it wouldn't run...
[04:41] <Inf3ctedFx> what's up ITSa341
[04:41] <dabaR> i uninstalled the desktop.
[04:41] <dabaR> I mean, not all files.
[04:41] <navarone> cafuego> then he probably went back to sit under his bridge
[04:41] <ITSa341> Ahh, not much right now. Taking a break I got most of the hassles worked out now.
[04:41] <cafuego> tuv: try passing 'vga=791' in ther boot loader.
[04:42] <Inf3ctedFx> oks lol
[04:42] <cafuego> tuv: That SHOULD give you a 1024x768 console, I think.
[04:42] <humbled_smartass> anyone know where i can get winmac_fstab script from?
[04:42] <phreak97> someone tell me how i'd set up an access point from a wifi lan card?
[04:42] <ITSa341> still need AOL to work and I know it can be done. I had it working fine under Linspire.
[04:42] <phreak97> i mean, set up the card as an access point
[04:42] <cafuego> phreak97: Load the right driver.
[04:42] <Wammy> pashaw, hrm, having some issues compiling, care to look?
[04:42] <humbled_smartass> winmac_fstab?? anyone?
[04:43] <tuv> cafuego: i'll try that.. thanks
[04:43] <phreak97> cafuego,  no chance itll be plug and play?
[04:43] <kaminix> What's a good program to switch gtk-themes? I installed gtk-theme-switcher, but it just switched it's own theme, Gnome and stuff is still the same (using Fluxbox)
[04:43] <navarone> humbled google...but I think it is on ubuntulinux website
[04:43] <cafuego> phreak97: Not unless hostap just runs on it.
[04:43] <wastrel> yes please
[04:43] <humbled_smartass> this one? http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/ down?
[04:43] <wastrel> ?? breezy
[04:43] <wastrel> breezy?
[04:43] <nalioth> humbled_smartass: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6241
[04:43] <ara> okay. having little problem installing yahoo mesenger on my ubunto
[04:43] <cafuego> phreak97: ALternatively like I said: ad-hoc mode. (You can set that with iwconfig)
[04:44] <ara> would it work on ubunto?
[04:44] <nalioth> Seveas has moved his files and not provided a forwarding URL
[04:44] <cafuego> phreak97: ad-hoc is a many-to-many wifi network.
[04:44] <humbled_smartass> crap...
[04:44] <ITSa341> ara   don't use Yahoo, use Gaim
[04:44] <wastrel> <3 gaim
[04:44] <humbled_smartass> so where do i get the winmac_fstab from now?
[04:44] <ElitePete> how do i setup a network between my two ubuntu machines?
[04:44] <tuv> the screensaver always asks for password, how can i disable that? i don't want to be asked for password to get out of the screensaver
[04:44] <ITSa341> Gaim will connect with your yahoo name and let you chat etc with Yahoo
[04:44] <humbled_smartass> id try adding it but it seems to change everytime i have to do it
[04:44] <ara> the sudo that you told me isn't working. it still asks for a password
[04:45] <cafuego> ara: It wants YOUR password.
[04:45] <humbled_smartass> one person had me set up ro, fmask000,dmask???? , another guy had me just do a nls=utf-8,umask0222 and that seemed to work..
[04:45] <nalioth> humbled_smartass: i just told you
[04:45] <nalioth> humbled_smartass: scroll up
[04:45] <cafuego> humbled_smartass: http://www.lab4games.net/zz85/blog/2005/07/15/auto-mounting/
[04:45] <burnhamd> will ubuntu be able to print to the printer that i have conected to a airport exress for my mac
[04:46] <ara> i did put my password, nothing happened
[04:46] <cafuego> burnhamd: In theory: yes.
[04:46] <burnhamd> does it work with bonjour and printing through it
[04:46] <cafuego> burnhamd: No, not via bonjour. You'd probably need to use ipp.
[04:46] <ElitePete> somone please tell me how to setup filesharing between two ubuntu pcs?
[04:46] <ITSa341> ara  what are you trying to do? and what is the exact error message it gives?
[04:46] <burnhamd> cafuego: so how would i go about doing it
[04:47] <electroweak> pashaw can you see it now?
[04:47] <ElitePete> !network
[04:47] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[04:47] <humbled_smartass> and what is that nal? i mean i know its a script... but what do i do with that... just make a new file... paste that.. save the file and then run it by doing a ./????
[04:47] <Doomhammer> okay, that's why xorg was borked... nv driver doesn't work with PCI-Express nvidia cards
[04:47] <ElitePete> !filesharing
[04:47] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, ElitePete
[04:47] <Doomhammer> vesa works fine though :S
[04:47] <cafuego> burnhamd: Admin -> Prining; Add an ipp printer, make sure you know the IP address the access point is using.
[04:47] <ElitePete> used to be people would help me in this channel
[04:47] <junlp3r> ubotu tell <junlp3r> about <install php>
[04:47] <tuv> ElitePete: System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[04:48] <phreak97> anyone know if theres a google desktop type of program for linux?
[04:48] <nalioth> ElitePete: if nobody knows the answer, do you want us to make stuff up?
[04:48] <ElitePete> tuv, thanks
[04:48] <burnhamd> cafuego: ok thanks
[04:48] <Davey> ElitePete: check the forums
[04:48] <ElitePete> Davey, idid.
[04:48] <cafuego> phreak97: 'beagle'.
[04:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell junlp3r about lamp
[04:48] <Madpilot> !tell junlp3r about php
[04:48] <tuv> phreak97: there is one
[04:48] <wastrel> where's a link about upgrading to breezy?
[04:48] <phreak97> can i get that off synaptic?
[04:48] <_TomB> can you slow the speed of the touch pad/mouse in ubuntu?
[04:48] <cafuego> phreak97: Indeed.
[04:48] <GhostFreeman> Is it safe to remove my boot/grub.conf?
[04:48] <cafuego> !info beagle
[04:48] <burnhamd> phreak97: try looking at beagle
[04:48] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 836 kB, Installed size: 3100 kB
[04:48] <GhostFreeman> does Grub actually need it?
[04:48] <Madpilot> wastrel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:48] <ara> trying to install realplayer here. i type  'sudo RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[04:48] <ara> ' in the command prompt but nothing happense
[04:48] <cafuego> phreak97: You'll need to enable the universe repository.
[04:49] <yokolesey> #turkiye
[04:49] <ITSa341> Ara   can I IM you?
[04:49] <cafuego> _TomB: Prefs -> Mouse
[04:49] <wastrel> Madpilot:  I <3 U
[04:49] <ara> sure
[04:49] <phreak97> cafuego, done ages ago
[04:49] <_TomB> using fluxbox
[04:49] <yokolesey> s.a
[04:49] <cafuego> !find realplayer
[04:49] <_TomB> with no gnome
[04:49] <ubotu> realplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[04:49] <yokolesey> naslsnz arkadaslar
[04:49] <yokolesey> turkyeden br varsa bana selam yazmas
[04:49] <yokolesey> yeterl
[04:49] <cafuego> ara: 'sudo apt-get install realplayer'
[04:49] <GhostFreeman> Is it safe to remove my grub.conf and be able to boot into various OSes?
[04:49] <yokolesey> valla ubuntu ya gecdk ama
[04:49] <yokolesey> solemes ayp
[04:50] <yokolesey> b bok anlamadm aq
[04:50] <dapimp53> quick question about the packages on Ubuntu
[04:50] <cafuego> !tr
[04:50] <ubotu> Not a clue, cafuego
[04:50] <cafuego> yokolesey: Stop it.
[04:50] <yokolesey> stop
[04:50] <cafuego> yokolesey: /join #turkiye
[04:50] <yokolesey> ok
[04:50] <yokolesey> merci
[04:50] <yokolesey> :D
[04:50] <GhostFreeman> Is it safe to remove my grub.conf and be able to boot into various OSes?
[04:50] <cafuego> ara: There is no need to run separately downloaded files that the apt package system can't track.
[04:50] <humbled_smartass> ok nal... do i need to do something special to make that thing run?
[04:51] <ara> cafuego, nothing happens when i type that command
[04:51] <cafuego> GhostFreeman: As long as you have /boot/grub/menu.lst, yes.
[04:51] <paulproteus|lapt> GhostFreeman: your /boot/grub/menu.lst is essential.
[04:51] <yokolesey> :D
[04:51] <nalioth> humbled_smartass: read it in a text editor and use the <tab> key on my nick
[04:51] <ITSa341> ara https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:51] <cafuego> ara: SOMETHIGN will happen, surely.
[04:51] <GhostFreeman> so if I formatted my Linux part away, I would be f**ked
[04:51] <cafuego> ara: It will either give you an error or some other message.
[04:51] <ITSa341> scrool down to real player and follow it. it works, I just did it a few minutes ago
[04:51] <cafuego> GhostFreeman: Yes
[04:51] <ITSa341> scroll**
[04:51] <ElitePete> i have shared a folder on this pc, how do i view it from the other computer?
[04:51] <sethk> GhostFreeman, I assume you mean change your grub.conf, not remove it
[04:52] <ara> it gives me no messeage and nothing seems to happense. and it skips to a new line
[04:52] <yokolesey> is not she
[04:52] <GhostFreeman> no, I mean format my entire Linux part
[04:52] <GhostFreeman> I wouldn't be able to boot back into Windows
[04:52] <sethk> ElitePete, mount it on the other box
[04:52] <cafuego> GhostFreeman: Not wothout a rescue disk to fix the MBR, no.
[04:52] <wastrel> mmm dist-upgrade over wifi
[04:52] <cyphase> can someone point me to a guide to install DVD support on Ubuntu that works?
[04:52] <cyphase> because the one on the wiki doesn't
[04:52] <wastrel> i should plug in should't i
[04:52] <ElitePete> sethk, explain please? :-)
[04:52] <ITSa341> ARA  try this it works easy the first time.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:52] <GhostFreeman> Will the Windows XP CD restore the MBR?
[04:52] <ITSa341> <-- just did it
[04:53] <cafuego> GhostFreeman: it should have that option, yes.
[04:53] <sethk> ElitePete, you said you want to use a shared drive on another machine.  so you mount the drive on the other machine.
[04:53] <tuv> phreak97: check out beagle
[04:53] <GhostFreeman> if not, can I install WinGrub and be safe with it?
[04:53] <yokolesey> amd video codec problem
[04:53] <ElitePete> sethk, i just want to share 1 folder from this machine to the other? how do i mount the folder
[04:53] <sethk> ElitePete, in unix you don't share a folder, that's windows terminology and technology
[04:53] <navarone> GhostFreeman, win xp cd can restore mbr  "fixmbr" is the command I think
[04:53] <ElitePete> sethk, ok.. how do i get my files.
[04:54] <GhostFreeman> ok
[04:54] <psusi> sethk, of course you can share a folder in linux
[04:54] <yokolesey> help me
[04:54] <sethk> ElitePete, if both machines are *nix machines, you mount on the other machine, usually like this:  mount -t nfs ....
[04:54] <sethk> psusi, no, you export an NFS file system
[04:54] <psusi> ElitePete, install samba
[04:54] <ElitePete> psusi, samba is on both machines
[04:54] <eobanb> lol.
[04:54] <sethk> psusi, that's quite different from what happens in windows when you share a folder
[04:54] <psusi> sethk, NFS stands for Non Functional System... it's a pile of crap...
[04:54] <electroweak> anybody can help me about xserver problem after installation it`s shutting itself down
[04:54] <sethk> psusi, it's and extremely reliable system
[04:54] <eobanb> on the other hand NFS can handle permissions properly
[04:54] <sethk> psusi, been in use for well over 25 years.  The TCP version is rock solid
[04:55] <eobanb> can we NOT start a flamewar here
[04:55] <ElitePete> i still don't know what to do..
[04:55] <sethk> psusi, that's v3.  Even v2 is just fine
[04:55] <psusi> it's not reliable or secure at all... it utterly trusts the client machine when it says what uid is calling
[04:55] <sethk> ElitePete, man nfs
[04:55] <ElitePete> please stop fighting and help me.
[04:55] <humbled_smartass> ok...
[04:55] <sethk> psusi, if you need more security there are other options
[04:55] <electroweak> anybody can help me about xserver problem after installation it`s shutting itself down
[04:55] <wastrel> just scp it
[04:55] <psusi> ElitePete, install smaba, and set up a share
[04:55] <ElitePete> samba is installed
[04:55] <yokolesey> amd 64 video codec problem
[04:55] <yokolesey> :(
[04:55] <holy_cow> isn't nfs up to version 4 now?
[04:55] <burnhamd> linux should move to the world of bonjour\ahavi to handle al the network mounting and finding and leave everything else behinde for home stuff
[04:55] <sethk> ElitePete, are you talking about viewing the files on a windows machine?
[04:55] <navarone> humbled_smartass, were you able to find win_mac?
[04:56] <sethk> holy_cow, yes, there is v4 now
[04:56] <psusi> sethk, and then there's the little problem where the kernel likes to block the process in a non killable state if the connection to the server lags/dies
[04:56] <GhostFreeman> thanks again all
[04:56] <ElitePete> sethk, they are both ubuntu machines, i have a folder im sharing here, i want to see it from the other machine. simple..?
[04:56] <humbled_smartass> earlier today i managed to change what my windows manager called my partitions... i know i changed the mount point on the fstab... then remounted... but thats all i remember about the whole process... doing just those 2 things didn't work this time... what am i missing?
[04:56] <PinusTurdvalds> sshfs owns j00!
[04:56] <sethk> psusi, as I said, there are other options, but for the vast majority of cases NFS is just fine
[04:56] <yokolesey> I love you XP
[04:56] <tuv> holy_cow: nfs v4 is not in production yet
[04:56] <regeya_> sshfs...
[04:56] <sethk> eliphas_, then samba has nothing whatsoever to do with it.
[04:56] <humbled_smartass> yeah nalioth showed me where to find it navar
[04:56] <sethk> sorry eliphas_
[04:56] <regeya_> when I was using kde, fish was awesome
[04:56] <sethk> ElitePete, then samba has nothing whatsoever to do with it.
[04:56] <holy_cow> tuv, it is supposed to have security enhancements, correct?
[04:56] <dapimp53> In Ubuntu 5.10 and I have a netgear wireless modem that uses a wpa-psk key. The key is a word. I cannot get my wireless connection to work. Any ideas?
[04:57] <navarone> humbled...okay...I ahve used it twice since installing ubuntu...worked like a charm for me
[04:57] <psusi> sethk, I have yet to see an NFS setup that was simple or elegant... though admitedly, I have not used it in some years
[04:57] <dapimp53> wireless router not modem
[04:57] <tuv> does one really need sshfs in a private LAN?
[04:57] <electroweak> i need help guys please
[04:57] <electroweak> i need help guys please
[04:57] <electroweak> anybody can help me about xserver problem after installation it`s shutting itself down
[04:57] <ElitePete> says share with "smb'
[04:57] <regeya_> very annoying nick...bless you nalioth
[04:57] <ElitePete> isn't that samba ?
[04:57] <psusi> ElitePete, yes
[04:57] <tuv> holy_cow: it is very featurefull.. some say it's even comparable to AFS
[04:57] <ElitePete> psusi, so how do i view this folder from the other machine
[04:57] <regeya_> electoweak repeating won't get you help quicker and don't ask to ask just ask electoweak repeating won't get you help quicker and don't ask to ask just ask
[04:57] <ITSa341> ara   you still with us??
[04:57] <electroweak> sorry
[04:58] <sethk> ElitePete, you mount it.  Why aren't you paying attention?
[04:58] <ara> yes, can't get anything to work
[04:58] <ElitePete> sethk, i am, i donot know how to mount it
[04:58] <Davey> ElitePete: try Places > Connect to Server
[04:58] <electroweak> i`ve been trying to get help about three days but i`ll wait sorry again
[04:58] <ITSa341> did you go to the link I sent you and try it EXACTLY as they show?
[04:58] <ElitePete> Davey, i did, then what do i put in?
[04:58] <sethk> ElitePete, with the mount command
[04:58] <humbled_smartass> woot woot
[04:58] <psusi> AFS or CODA look nice... if you want to set up a large network with one unified filesystem... I like samba because it's simple to set up a basic shared folder that other machines can use... without NIS or kerberos or anything else complex
[04:58] <humbled_smartass> i figured it out again :)
[04:58] <humbled_smartass> hey i might get this linux thing back the way i had it by the end of the night
[04:58] <psusi> ElitePete, places->network servers
[04:59] <Davey> ElitePete: choose Windows Share, put in the IP of the machine sharing, the share nameand another info you want, or just click "Browse Network" :)
[04:59] <Davey> ElitePete: yes, or what psusi said (which is where Browse Network leads)
[04:59] <ara> this is my yahoo ID:  a1r9a83
[04:59] <Wammy> im getting this error:  WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10-386/Module.symvers
[04:59] <Wammy>            is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[04:59] <Wammy>
[04:59] <psusi> you can mount it... or you can just browse to it in nautilus using gnome-vfs
[04:59] <Wammy> how do i fix it?
[04:59] <tuv> actually i find nfs the easiest to set up and it's pretty fast too
[04:59] <ElitePete> Davey, when i click browse network all i have is windows network with nothing in it
[04:59] <regeya> in all seriousness, is there an equivalent to fish in nautilus?
[05:00] <pashaw> electroweak,  i have some ideas    (company stopped over)
[05:00] <electroweak> tell me please
[05:00] <pashaw> electroweak,    what video card you using
[05:00] <nalioth> Wammy: please dont paste in here, use a pastebin
[05:00] <psusi> tuv, can you set it up to share a single folder read/write with a password?  without setting up NIS or kerberos?
[05:00] <humbled_smartass> what is the chmod letter command for read/write/exec?
[05:00] <humbled_smartass> rwx?
[05:00] <Wammy> nalioth, sorry.
[05:00] <pashaw> !tell Wammy about pastebin
[05:00] <nalioth> humbled_smartass: chmod +x winmac_fstab
[05:00] <dapimp53> Is there a trick in putting in the wpa-psk key in the default network administration
[05:00] <ElitePete> !networking
[05:00] <ubotu> Wish i knew, ElitePete
[05:01] <Wammy> pashaw, could you help me out?
[05:01] <tuv> psusi: i don't want passwords in my local network, so i didn't try that
[05:01] <humbled_smartass> nah nal... past that... back to the chmoding my account folder
[05:01] <regeya> ah...nevermind, I see that nautilus handles ssh connections just fine
[05:01] <regeya> whoops...spoke too soon
[05:01] <humbled_smartass> not /home... but the /home/josh directory
[05:02] <coz> hello all
[05:02] <psusi> tuv, what about read/write access in such a way that it doesn't just use the uid from the user on the other machine, which likely does not exist or is a different user on this one?
[05:02] <mister_roboto> humbled_smartass: yes, that's right r = read, w = write, x = execute (or search for directories)
[05:02] <owner989> hi
[05:02] <tuv> psusi: user squashing!
[05:02] <pashaw> Wammy, is that your only error?
[05:02] <psusi> tuv, that just turns root into nobody
[05:02] <Wammy> pashaw, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6254
[05:02] <kadaj> how to install wine?
[05:02] <tuv> psusi: that is root squashing
[05:02] <owner989> i have a question
[05:02] <humbled_smartass> mister... so i will do a chmod +rwx -R /home/josh/*
[05:03] <psusi> which is fine for public read only exports.... but not much else
[05:03] <humbled_smartass> will that read write and exec for all users?
[05:03] <dapimp53> ElitePete, any idea?
[05:03] <owner989> if i want to install another linux distro on a separate partition can i use the same swap partition as ubuntu for it
[05:03] <nalioth> humbled_smartass: you are heading for trouble. dont chmod any folders
[05:03] <ElitePete> dapimp53, ?
[05:03] <pashaw> electroweak,   did you see my question
[05:03] <dapimp53> my networking problem
[05:03] <ElitePete> dapimp53, i didn't see it.
[05:03] <electroweak> i missed i guess
[05:03] <dapimp53> you typed !networking but it didnt owrk
[05:03] <dapimp53> work
[05:03] <kadaj> how to install wine?
[05:04] <ITSa341> kadaj, use <Applications> <add more applications> then file advanced and search for wine
[05:04] <ElitePete> dapimp53, i know it didn't work
[05:04] <ITSa341> select the appropriate packages and go
[05:04] <mister_roboto> humbled_smartass: in general, it's not a good idea to blindly recurse through like that, and you generally want to set the permissions per user/group/other, not the same for everything
[05:04] <sethk> humbled_smartass, the command would be:  chmod a+rwx     but are you sure you want to do that to your home directory?  It isn't advisable
[05:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kadaj about wine
[05:04] <noway> In case someone remembers my problem with the desktop being too big for the screen (which mean I had to move the mouse to the sides to see it all) I solved it now by installing the proprietary ATI drivers.
[05:04] <sethk> humbled_smartass, make another directory somewhere for sharing.
[05:04] <dapimp53> so you dont know
[05:04] <nalioth> humbled_smartass: you are gonna end up where you were before, if you keep chmodding dirs
[05:04] <ElitePete> dapimp53, repeat your question
[05:04] <sethk> humbled_smartass, and put the users who need to share into the same group, and enable rw for the group instead of for world
[05:05] <sethk> humbled_smartass, and listen to nalioth.
[05:05] <psusi> wtf?
[05:05] <dapimp53> In Ubuntu 5.10 and I have a netgear wireless modem that uses a wpa-psk key. The key is a word. I cannot get my wireless connection to work. Any ideas?
[05:05] <coz> you can use automatix to install wine
[05:05] <mister_roboto> u+rwx,go+rw
[05:05] <nalioth> !automatix
[05:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT! For a safe alternative, see easyubuntu (http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/ )
[05:05] <psusi> anyone else notice if you compose a new email in thunderbird, type the first few letters of the address, let the auto complete pop up, then hit alt-tab, you can't tab out?
[05:05] <electroweak> pashaw do you mean "company stopped over"?
[05:05] <sethk> dapimp53, I haven't seen the newer key type working with linux yet.
[05:05] <psusi> untill you clear the auto complete?
[05:05] <nalioth> coz: please don't advise that here
[05:05] <sorush20> dapimp53: you can ping the router?
[05:06] <coz> nalioth is there a real reason for your concern?
[05:06] <sethk> psusi, yes, but I gave up on thunderbird a few weeks ago
[05:06] <psusi> sethk, oh?  why?  and what do you use now?
[05:06] <dapimp53> yes
[05:06] <nalioth> coz: yes, the dozens of machines that have been broken by automatix
[05:06] <coz> then there are hardware issues initially with ubuntu not automatix
[05:06] <sethk> psusi, I noticed that when mailboxes in IMAP got to be large, >5000 messages or so, it goes into an endless loop trying to process them.
[05:07] <psusi> I used kmail at one point a few years ago... it was real nice... I've been thinking of going back to it, but I like thunderbird... especially it's junk mail filter
[05:07] <nalioth> coz: and it's very irresponsible use of command syntax
[05:07] <pashaw> Wammy, follow this and use your card inplace of the ndiswrapper
[05:07] <tuv> dapimp53: what's your wireless adapter?
[05:07] <pashaw> Wammy,   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104539&highlight=compile+source
[05:07] <sethk> psusi, I've been using sylpheed, although I had to code the server side IMAP mail filtering myself
[05:07] <psusi> sethk, ohh... I use pop3...
[05:07] <pashaw> electroweak,   what video card are you using
[05:07] <tuv> dapimp53: are you using wpa_supplicant for wpa?
[05:07] <kadaj> how to install wine?
[05:07] <Wammy> ok, lets see
[05:07] <nalioth> kadaj: ubotu sent you some info in a private message
[05:07] <navarone> kadaj> sudo apt-get install wine
[05:07] <sethk> psusi, I haven't seen that sort of problem with tbird and pop
[05:07] <tuv> kadaj: sudo apt-get install wine
[05:07] <coz> I see I have never had a problem with it on any machine as of yet
[05:07] <electroweak> pashaw ati radeon xpress 200m
[05:07] <dapimp53> I dont have wpa_supplicant
[05:07] <sorush20> dapimp53: you can't ping anything elseright?
[05:08] <dapimp53> no I cant
[05:08] <mister_roboto> humbled_smartass: usually you want to separate permissions something like "chmod u+rwx,go=rx" on directories, u=rw,o=r on files, that sort of thing
[05:08] <psusi> sethk, me neither... I decided to archive and compress some mail today... my mail folder went from like 300 megs down to 50... and another 30 megs of 7zip files... hehe
[05:08] <sorush20> dapimp53: have you tried to turn the encryption off?
[05:08] <pashaw> electroweak,    your on it now right in windows
[05:08] <dapimp53> yeah it works fine that way
[05:08] <electroweak> pashaw right im on XP now
[05:09] <psusi> my most important requirement of a mail reader is that it be able to handle a 50 mb mailbox with 10,000 messages in it
[05:09] <ITSa341> Anyone here use AOL on Ubuntu?
[05:09] <coz> I don't use aol on anything
[05:09] <navarone> psusi> you're really Santa Claus aren't you..? :)
[05:09] <nalioth> ITSa341: is that even possible?
[05:09] <psusi> another thing I like about thunderbird is it's handling of s/mime... I love x.509 certificates
[05:10] <psusi> navarone, ?
[05:10] <kadaj> not works
[05:10] <sorush20> dapimp53: try going to the #netwroking channel
[05:10] <navarone> psusi...alot of mail..
[05:10] <ITSa341> nalioth  I did it with Linspire just fine
[05:10] <sorush20> dapimp53: sorry can't think of anyother way
[05:10] <nalioth> ITSa341: very interesting
[05:10] <tuv> dapimp53: to use wpa on linux you have to install wpasupplicant
[05:10] <psusi> navarone, heh... naw... I'm only on a half dozen medium to low traffic mailing lists these days... had to unsubscribe from a few high traffic ones because I kept going over quota on my pop account
[05:11] <dapimp53> I will give that a shot
[05:11] <ITSa341> naolioth  I used crossover office in Linspire but it doesn't work right with crossover in ubuntu
[05:11] <ITSa341> installs but won't start
[05:11] <nalioth> ITSa341: ah, so that's how. well, i dont know much about Xover
[05:11] <ITSa341> well, starts to start but never completely loads
[05:12] <ITSa341> tried wine also
[05:12] <tuv> dapimp53: and your wireless adapter and its driver have to support wpa
[05:12] <dapimp53> is there somewhere I can go to read about wpasupplicant
[05:12] <dapimp53> and how to set it up
[05:12] <tuv> dapimp53: that's why i asked you about your wireless card/adapter
[05:13] <ITSa341> nalioth  AOL had an alpha version of a linux AOL but MS found out and put the squeeze on them till they dropped it.
[05:13] <dapimp53> tuv: how do I pull up that info
[05:13] <ITSa341> they blocked the client :-(
[05:13] <tuv> dapimp53: lspci
[05:14] <dapimp53> tuv: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg
[05:14] <tuv> dapimp53: good news..
[05:14] <tuv> dapimp53: madwifi is your driver and it does support wpa
[05:14] <pashaw> electroweak,    use the recovery kernel again, login and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   for video  select ati and try to startx,  then try vesa if it fails again
[05:15] <poningru> ITSa341: any connection to Uni of Florida?
[05:15] <poningru> cause we had an ITSA day
[05:15] <pashaw> electroweak,          sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:15] <ITSa341> ITSa341 = Single father raising 2 boys....a 3 for 1 package deal
[05:16] <electroweak> pashaw yesterday i got the same advise but when i run the command said no such directory
[05:16] <electroweak> but i`ll try again
[05:16] <pashaw> electroweak,   1 sec
[05:16] <electroweak> ok
[05:16] <navarone> ITSa341, well I am sure you have multitasking down to a science...lol
[05:16] <ITSa341> hehehe
[05:16] <pashaw> electroweak,   did you try and reinstall yet?
[05:16] <ITSa341> not to bad now but they were 5 and 7 when my wife ran away with her crack dealer
[05:17] <electroweak> pashaw yes i reinstalled again today same result
[05:17] <dapimp53> tuv: cool. Where can I get some information about how to set it up and where to get it
[05:17] <dapimp53> I dont see it in the packages
[05:17] <pashaw> electroweak,   if you already tried this stuff something is likely messedup
[05:17] <Shadyman> ITSa341: How come the crack dealers always get the chicks?
[05:17] <Wammy> pashaw, i get the howto untill it gets to the ndsiwrapper part, if the code i have wont compile, wont that be kinda pointles?
[05:17] <ITSa341> lol  he can have her
[05:17] <tuv> dapimp53: did you try google: ubuntu madwifi wpa supplicant
[05:18] <electroweak> pashaw should i change the cd
[05:18] <pashaw> Wammy,   did you get the new driver from the company site  the newest one?
[05:18] <Wammy> yeah
[05:18] <Wammy> the newest one
[05:18] <gerald-volt> How do I load up my Xdefault settings
[05:18] <pashaw> electroweak,   if your having directory errors also  something else is messedup besides the X server
[05:18] <calc> i found a website that can consistently crash firefox
[05:18] <cdubya> how in the world can you change the kweather applet to read in fahrenheit?
[05:18] <cdubya> uhg
[05:18] <cdubya> ugh
[05:19] <electroweak> pashaw i used standart installation may be i should change my cd
[05:19] <navarone> cdubya> right click "configure"?
[05:19] <Sturgeon> What else could be wrong besides locale if i don't get vowels with acute accents properly displayed in terminals?
[05:19] <pashaw> Wammy,   thats why i avoid anything  not  supported within the kernel  i use promise cards alot
[05:19] <Sturgeon> my locale is UTF-8 and i read that it should suffice
[05:19] <cdubya> navarone, been there.....didn't see any way to do it.
[05:19] <cdubya> options are very limited
[05:19] <Shadyman> Sturgeon: Keyboard set?
[05:19] <Sturgeon> but still i dont see accents
[05:19] <cdubya> and it's driving me nuts.
[05:19] <Sturgeon> no, i can type them, but i can't see other people's
[05:20] <Sturgeon> or from files
[05:20] <navarone> cdubya> I dunno then...don't use kde...or even gdesklets for that matter
[05:20] <pashaw> electroweak,   i would  if youve tried reinstalling and these tests something else is goofed
[05:20] <cdubya> heh
[05:20] <Wammy> pashaw, twas a gift :/
[05:20] <Sturgeon> if you type an accent, i'll see some weird symbol instead of it
[05:20] <Sturgeon> but i can type one:
[05:20] <Shadyman> Does the ubuntu wpa_supplicant not come with wpa_gui?
[05:20] <HrdwrBoB> Sturgeon: that's not UTF8
[05:20] <HrdwrBoB> er yes, it is
[05:20] <Sturgeon> my locale says UTF8
[05:21] <HrdwrBoB> never mind me, I'm entirely insane
[05:21] <Sturgeon> :(
[05:21] <pashaw> Wammy,   nice gift  but as you read already not exactly linux friendly
[05:21] <Shadyman> HrdwrBoB: Welcome to the club :D
[05:21] <navarone> Sturgeon you can take a look in Configuration Editor...maybe able to set character encoding for terminal
[05:21] <electroweak> pashaw i`m gonna find other distro CD thanks so much for help
[05:21] <pashaw> electroweak,   good luck  really
[05:21] <electroweak> thanks
[05:22] <Wammy> pashaw, the errors have some stuff about missing files
[05:22] <Wammy> but the files are there...
[05:22] <pashaw> electroweak,  i test all my systems with knoppix CD if that works any debian should
[05:23] <electroweak> pashaw i have knoppix live DVD i tried before it seems working
[05:23] <Sturgeon> navarone: the terminal has an option to choose the character encoding, and it says UTF-8 too
[05:23] <navarone> Sturgeon does it say UTF-8,current?
[05:24] <electroweak> pashaw i also tried SUSE before there was no problem in installation but i couldn`t get internet working
[05:24] <ElitePete> can anyone help, i have firestarter configured to open port 6881-6889 in azureus but the nat/firewall test just hangs, ?
[05:24] <Sturgeon> navarone: "Current Locale (UTF-8)"
[05:24] <navarone> Sturgeon is that in Configuration editor?
[05:24] <navarone> Sturgeon...for gnome-terminal?
[05:24] <cdubya> woo hoo.
[05:24] <cdubya> that was it
[05:25] <Sturgeon> navarone: I can't see the values of entries in the configuration editor for gnome-terminal. They all say "<schema>"
[05:25] <navarone> Sturgeon...in apps/gnome-terminal
[05:26] <navarone> apps/gnome-terminal/global to be exact
[05:26] <Sturgeon> oh
[05:26] <Sturgeon> yeah, it says "UTF-8", ISO-8859-15
[05:26] <cimon> Is there a path to upgrade ubuntu from 5.04 to 5.10 via the web, without burning it on a cd?
[05:27] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[05:27] <pashaw> Wammy,   this error /usr/src/it8212/src/2.6.x/hosts.h:1:2: warning: #warning "This file is obsolete, please use <scsi/scsi_host.h> instead"
[05:27] <navarone> hjmm...mine says UTF-8,current
[05:27] <ElitePete> can anyone help, i have firestarter configured to open port 6881-6889 in azureus but the nat/firewall test just hangs, ?
[05:27] <cimon> HrdwrBoB:  ?
[05:27] <HrdwrBoB> cimon: change the distribution in synaptic from hoary to breezy
[05:27] <HrdwrBoB> then update all packages
[05:27] <cimon> cool.
[05:27] <cimon> that is fantastic.
[05:28] <cimon> kudos to ubuntu, you rock.
[05:28] <navarone> Sturgeon...have you created any new profiles for use in termianl?
[05:29] <Sturgeon> i only changed the background color
[05:29] <Sturgeon> but it was bogus before that
[05:29] <navarone> Sturgeon, so you are still using default profile?
[05:29] <Sturgeon> yes
[05:30] <tclhal> Hi, I just installed breezy.  After installing updates and rebooting my resolution was reduced to 640x480.  There are no backup files of xorg.conf so I'm wondering what might have changed.
[05:30] <Sturgeon> this is weird, everybody says they have no problems with spanish characters but i'm having a hard time :(
[05:30] <ITSa341> tclhal  look at your xorg.conf under screens section
[05:31] <odat> tclhal, what type of video card do you have?
[05:31] <tclhal> Intel 82865G integrated graphics device
[05:31] <tclhal> i810
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> I'm trying to make wvdial essentially check periodically and then connect once the line is free and there is a dial tone.  How can I configure this?
[05:32] <navarone> sturgeon...have you installed any other font sets that would give the accented characters?
[05:32] <odat> tclhal, then open up the terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"   without the quotes
[05:32] <Sturgeon> hmm i don't know
[05:32] <tclhal> odat- thanks I'll try that
[05:33] <navarone> Sturgeon, are you trying to use special characters?
[05:33] <Sturgeon> i did the default install for breezy badger, and then installed some codecs and the usual stuff for video, audio, etc
[05:33] <Sturgeon> what do you mean?
[05:34] <Sturgeon> I am trying to read them properly when I chat in spanish :\
[05:34] <navarone> Sturgeon, go to Applications/access/Character map and see if you have Latin characterset
[05:34] <Sturgeon> oh ok
[05:34] <randabis> ...
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Alternatively, does anyone know whether wvdial will continue trying indefinitely on failure to connect, or stop after a certain number of tries, and how can I change that number?
[05:36] <Sturgeon> navarone: yeah, it's there
[05:36] <pashaw> cd /lib/modules
[05:36] <pashaw> accckk
[05:36] <navarone> Sturgeon...do the characters display properly in terminal...or just gibberish? Characters like  and
[05:37] <Sturgeon> I see a rhombus and a quotation mark there
[05:37] <Sturgeon> if i type it myself, then i see it:  and  are "a with acute accent" and "e with acute accent"
[05:37] <navarone> hmm...
[05:37] <Sturgeon> isnt that weird? :(
[05:38] <Shadyman> Hey guys... What's this mean?
[05:38] <HrdwrBoB> Sturgeon: I see A with a ~ and A with a .. hat then an upside down exclamation mark
[05:38] <navarone> hmm...I didn't see tyhe characters you typed properly either...weird
[05:38] <HrdwrBoB> the second is the same, only followed by a copyright symbol
[05:38] <Sturgeon> oh
[05:38] <Sturgeon> then this is not only a problem of mine!
[05:39] <navarone> I saw what Bob saw
[05:39] <flungu> does anyone know how to install rpm files?
[05:39] <HrdwrBoB> though I have now switched from putty to a gnome term
[05:39] <HrdwrBoB> and I only see an a with a ~
[05:39] <Shadyman> GnomeUI-Warning: Authentication rejected: None of the auth protocols specified are supported and host-based auth failed.
[05:39] <HrdwrBoB> followed by the character
[05:39] <HrdwrBoB> flungu: the simple answer is you can't
[05:39] <Shadyman> when I try to gksudo gnome-terminal
[05:39] <Sturgeon> well, then none of us see the proper characters when other people type them
[05:39] <Sturgeon> :S
[05:39] <dapimp53> tuv: it has worked! thanks for the help
[05:40] <flungu> i donwloaded jre 1.5 for linux but i don't know how to install rpms
[05:40] <HrdwrBoB> !java
[05:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:40] <HrdwrBoB> !javadebs
[05:40] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[05:41] <HrdwrBoB> flungu: there you go
[05:41] <navarone> flungu...get .debs not rpms
[05:41] <flungu> thank you, i'll look into that
[05:42] <gerald-volt> how do I source my .Xdefaults to Xsession
[05:43] <cafuego> flungu: You downloaded the wrong file.
[05:44] <cafuego> flungu: The .bin (not .rpm.bin) can be converted to .deb
[05:44] <flungu> i donwnloaded this one sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0update05_i386.deb now, but how do i install it?
[05:44] <Hobbsee> !deb
[05:44] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[05:44] <paulproteus|lapt> dpkg -i file.deb
[05:44] <flungu> ok
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> Having an issue here with hibernate/suspend to disk on a ThinkPad T43 laptop.  /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh and /etc/acpi/ibm-hibernate.sh work just fine, but the Fn-F12 shortcut doesn't work quite right.  Any ideas why/how to fix it?
[05:45] <navarone> Sturgeon...the ISO number you mentioned earlier was for Western encoding...try changing it to UTF-8 in termianl options and see if that makes a diff
[05:45] <odat> flungu, just install the java in synaptic  1.5 is in the next release of ubuntu  1.4.1 does just fine for now
[05:45] <Sturgeon> navarone: it *is* in UTF-8
[05:45] <ITSa341> tony   thinkpad fan here. How does it run with ubuntu on it?
[05:45] <HrdwrBoB> ITSa341: excellently.
[05:45] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: did you edit /etc/default/acpi-support ?
[05:46] <Sturgeon> navarone: i have also the option of western encoding because i tried that to see if something improved, but the active one is the UTF-8
[05:46] <ITSa341> I have 3 thinkpad 600es I have been thinking of putting ubuntu on them all if I can work all the little bugs out of it and make it do what I really need it to.
[05:46] <Sturgeon> i assume you mean Terminal -> set character encoding ->
[05:46] <navarone> yes...okay
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, I uncommented ACPI_SLEEP=true, that's all.
[05:46] <openbysource> there are many packages which are not in the ubuntu cd's which get's shipped down. how do i get them ?
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, ACPI_HIBERNATE=true already was.
[05:47] <navarone> openbysource, after install you can install additional pakages thru Synpatic
[05:47] <ITSa341> open start with <applications> <add more>
[05:47] <openbysource> but it says i don't have those packages on the cd's
[05:48] <ITSa341> it will pull them from repositories on the web
[05:48] <navarone> no...you install them after you install System and use Synaptic package manager to install others from online
[05:48] <openbysource> yeah can you give me url's of any one of them
[05:48] <navarone> !repo
[05:48] <ubotu> navarone: What?
[05:48] <navarone> hmm
[05:48] <ITSa341> use add programs or synaptic package manager
[05:49] <navarone> !repositories
[05:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:49] <navarone> bingo
[05:49] <openbysource> thanks
[05:49] <navarone> np
[05:49] <rockinchado> is it possible to create new users from a terminal
[05:49] <ITSa341> nav  you been around this a while eh?
[05:49] <openbysource> rockinchado: yeah
[05:49] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ThinkpadT43-1871 ?
[05:50] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: if so, have you contacted Matt?
[05:50] <navarone> ITSa341, I just learn from the best
[05:50] <rockinchado> openbysource, you know how?
[05:50] <openbysource> yeah
[05:50] <rockinchado> openbysource, can you tell me  lol
[05:50] <openbysource> just type in the command "useradd <username>"
[05:50] <Comrade_Vladimir> anyone here have a olympus mp3 player here?
[05:50] <ITSa341> nav  that's why I'm here trying to find out who is here a lot and who knows what's going on
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, No, and no.  Thanks for the link.  (Any other suggestions beyond that while I look?)
[05:50] <rockinchado> aight thanks
[05:50] <ITSa341> bookmarking links
[05:50] <tclhal> I think the problem was that my monitor was not being detected correctly.  Once I changed the monitor section in xorg.conf by hand I was able to use a better default setting.
[05:50] <ITSa341> etc
[05:50] <Hobbsee> openbysource: and then how do you add them to the sudo'ers list?
[05:51] <openbysource> it's simple just run the sudo command as root user
[05:51] <navarone> ITSa341, it won't take you long...almost 600 peeps and only a handful actually speak most times...lol
[05:51] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: thinkwiki.org
[05:52] <ITSa341> nav, I've been using Linux for firewalls and routers for years. I also used Linspire for years. I have some of my clients using linspire exclusively but never really got into it till now.
[05:53] <crimsun> ITSa341: the 600Es have issues with sound, you need to use snd-cs4236. Make sure Quick Boot is /disabled/ in BIOS and that you use APM instead of ACPI (boot with acpi=off)
[05:53] <ITSa341> I've tried them all...well at least the well known ones
[05:53] <ITSa341> I install xebian on xBoxes with 300gb drives all the time
[05:53] <openbysource> to add a user into the sudoers list type the command "visudo"
[05:54] <Comrade_Vladimir> what channel should i go to to get advice on a mp3 player?
[05:54] <ITSa341> crimson   yup, I have tried it on a 600 for a few days but didn't have time to learn it. and needed the 600 for work
[05:54] <ITSa341> tried Linspire on that one
[05:54] <Shadyman> !restrictedformats
[05:54] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:54] <hydroksyde> Comrade_Vladimir, #linux maybe
[05:54] <ITSa341> had to buy a floppy drive to do it
[05:54] <hydroksyde> can't you get it workinh in ubunut?
[05:55] <fmasi> how can i get libqt3c102-mt
[05:55] <Shadyman> How come I get "Authentication Rejected" when I try to run gksudo gnome-terminal?
[05:55] <burnhamd> somehow rhytmbox got messed up in dapper and I removed it now when I want to add it back it says it needs libdbus 1-1 but libdbus1-2 is required by many of my packages is there anyway around this
[05:55] <hydroksyde> Comrade_Vladimir, most MP3 players should automatically mount as mass storage devices in ubuntu
[05:55] <Comrade_Vladimir> hydroksyde whys that thats for linux ?
[05:55] <ITSa341> I bought this eMachines m5305 just for this learning time.
[05:55] <hydroksyde> Comrade_Vladimir, do you want to buy an MP3 player, or get it to work in linux?
[05:56] <burnhamd> any idea about libdbus and rhythmbox
[05:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> hydroksyde1. i dont need help on mounting 2. im on windows (i no i didnt feel like linux for a minute)
[05:56] <ITSa341> this thing runs HOT in ubuntu.
[05:56] <gerald-volt> how do I startup my .Xdefaults automatically?
[05:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> hydroksyde no i need to know if some one has a certain one so i can get adbvice on it
[05:57] <Inf3ctedFx> danm.. does anyone knows how can I use xchat to access more than one channel b4 I connect?
[05:57] <cimon> HrdwrBoB: Do I have to manually edit some config file to change the distribution that synaptic will upgrade to?
[05:57] <hydroksyde> Comrade_Vladimir, I see... you could try #electronics and #music
[05:57] <rukk> Inf3ctedFx, ctrl+t for a new network tab.
[05:57] <Comrade_Vladimir> hydroksyde ill try and get back to u
[05:58] <Inf3ctedFx> no rukk  I know that is b4 I get connect to access auto
[05:58] <rukk> *blink* what?
[05:58] <mrk> err
[05:58] <mrk> hello guys
[05:59] <mrk> any one of you 574 other people available?
[05:59] <Inf3ctedFx> I got it lol
[05:59] <Shadyman> mrk: Nope.
[05:59] <mrk> damn.
[05:59] <rukk> mrk: only if your hot and female ;s
[05:59] <ITSa341> lol
[06:00] <mrk> yep
[06:00] <mrk> O am
[06:00] <mrk> I am*
[06:00] <paulproteus|lapt> !work
[06:00] <ubotu> paulproteus|lapt: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:00] <mrk> evidenced by the "mr" in mah name
[06:00] <rukk> indeed ;)
[06:00] <chenxian> hello
[06:00] <mrk> yepyep
[06:00] <mrk> hi
[06:00] <rukk> so what may I do for you, ms. mrk? :D
[06:00] <mrk> lol
[06:00] <mrk> ok
[06:00] <mrk> I've been using windows xp corporate for some time now
[06:01] <mrk> my friend said I should use linux
[06:01] <mrk> etc
[06:01] <mrk> and it got to my getting ubuntu
[06:01] <mrk> and such
[06:01] <mrk> right now
[06:01] <ITSa341> cool
[06:01] <mrk> I just got it installed for the first time
[06:01] <mrk> and uh
[06:01] <rukk> and you want to be talked into it or something?
[06:01] <rukk> oh
[06:01] <ITSa341> <-- just starting also
[06:01] <rukk> very good
[06:01] <mrk> I'm trying to set up my wireless intertrons
[06:01] <rukk> ooh boy
[06:01] <rukk> is your wireless chipset supported natively?
[06:01] <mrk> krazykit said it wasn't hard
[06:01] <mrk> nope
[06:02] <mrk> ndiswrapper, y helo thar
[06:02] <mrk> so
[06:02] <mrk> kk gave me the file
[06:02] <mrk> I opened up one of them "terminals"
[06:02] <Wilf> o rly?
[06:02] <mrk> and typed
[06:02] <mrk> uh
[06:02] <mrk> sudo dpkg -i filename
[06:02] <mrk> after I found out that 'Desktop' was case sensitive
[06:02] <mrk> it started to depackage
[06:02] <ITSa341> hehehe
[06:02] <mrk> and it said it couldn't
[06:02] <ITSa341> takes some getting used to case sensitive
[06:02] <mrk> because it was dependant on another file
[06:03] <paulproteus|lapt> mrk: Good.  Now apt-get -f install
[06:03] <mrk> which was another version of ndiswrapper
[06:03] <mrk> apparently
[06:03] <paulproteus|lapt> mrk: Where did you get this deb?
[06:03] <paulproteus|lapt> !ndiswrapper
[06:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:03] <paulproteus|lapt> mrk: Are you following that?
[06:03] <mrk> I need ndiswrapper 1.5
[06:03] <mrk> I have that
[06:03] <mrk> but I'm confused
[06:03] <mrk> well
[06:03] <mrk> I was
[06:03] <mrk> lemme look again
[06:03] <cafuego> !return
[06:03] <ubotu> cafuego: No idea
[06:03] <Shadyman> when I try to gksudo gnome-terminal
[06:04] <cafuego> !enter
[06:04] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[06:04] <Shadyman> Fuego!
[06:04] <mrk> I see.
[06:04] <Sturgeon> :(
[06:05] <mrk> oky then.
[06:05] <kestas> does anyone know how you can enable use of the execute disable bit on ubuntu?
[06:05] <mrk> so I see that guide, paulproteus|lapt, but it doesn't help much, as I can't even get ndiswrapper "depackaged" or whatever
[06:06] <^Ocen^> okay, So I just did a dist-upgrade from Breezy to dapper  everything went well cept my Audio is now borken
[06:06] <mrk> and I can't exactly /get/ that damned ndiswrapper1.5 file, since I can't use the intertron on the compy I'm trying to work with ubuntu on
[06:06] <Shadyman> ^Ocen^: Be glad that's all that's broken :)
[06:07] <^Ocen^> Shadyman: well, that and automount of my USB devices seems to be broken to
[06:07] <Shadyman> ^Ocen^: Expect a lot of things to be broken on Dapper, it's not released yet, after all
[06:07] <ITSa341> mrk  no cd burner?
[06:07] <DShepherd> I cant get firefox or yelp to work. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6244 <-- can anyone shed any light on that matter
[06:07] <mrk> and it's also annoying that this comp I'm on right now is pos windows me, and I have to reboot to even get it to recognize my damned thumbdrive
[06:07] <mrk> I have on
[06:07] <^Ocen^> Shadyman: well whats the best way to keep my system upto date ?
[06:07] <mrk> e, but wouldn't the thumbdrive be easier
[06:08] <mrk> except for the damn... crappieness ofwinme
[06:08] <^Ocen^> like Breezy has firefox 1.0 or somethin, vs dapper has 1.5
[06:08] <ITSa341> burn the file to cd from the win machine and get networking working first so adding needed support packages gets easier
[06:08] <Shadyman> !firefox15
[06:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[06:09] <^Ocen^> sigh, So i basicaly have to sit there and manual install everything thats not broken...
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> Where are startup scripts?
[06:09] <yh> heh
[06:09] <mrk> but ITSa341, how would I get networking working if I can't get ndiswrapper to work?
[06:09] <yh> convenience comes at a price
[06:09] <ITSa341> not necessarily but that is the only Idea I had
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> Does Ubuntu Breezy have SoftwareSuspend2 in the kernel?
[06:10] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: yes.
[06:11] <ITSa341> mrk I have no idea how to fix it was just giving you an idea on how to get the download you mentioned.
[06:11] <cimon> Um, I read the manual of synaptic. Did I understand that I already have breezy, if I have always used smart upgrade?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> Would resume=/dev/sda7 and resume2=swap:/dev/sda7 be conflicting as kernel boot parameters?
[06:11] <cimon> *Did I understand correctly?
[06:11] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: you don't really need to specify either
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> cimon, That's how I understand it too.
[06:12] <maskd> anyone else here with fglrx drivers that have flickering problems when opengl applications are used in ubuntu?
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Oh?  How come?  (Pages have told me to.)
[06:12] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: because our swsup does Neat Things.
[06:12] <cimon> hmm. what package do I need to install for it to plug and play recognize my HP PSC 1510?
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Ah.
[06:13] <ITSa341> maskd  I cant get fglrx drivers to work at all  :-(
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> cimon, Have you checked the printer setup utility?
[06:13] <maskd> i followed this guide: http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Ubuntu_ATI_proprietary_display_driver_installation_through_APT
[06:13] <mrk> guys, is the last file the one I'm looking for?
[06:13] <mrk> http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/
[06:13] <maskd> it works
[06:13] <swim> hey folks anyone happen to know the name of the  deb that contains: XML::Parser perl module
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> cimon, I was able to set up an HP PSC 1310 no problem.
[06:13] <cimon> tonyyarusso: yeah, but the list does not include 1510 :-/
[06:14] <cimon> foomatic otoh, says I used the wrong root password :(
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> cimon, What happens if you try 1310 and see if it works anyway?
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> cimon, (No idea if that would work or not.)
[06:14] <cimon> I'll try that...
[06:14] <nalioth> cimon: there is no root account
[06:15] <maskd> if you used expert ther eis
[06:15] <cimon> should I just put a blank for foomatic?
[06:15] <Shadyman> say uh
[06:15] <_SD_Keo> Hello, I can't get my mic working in teamspeak =\
[06:15] <cafuego> Yay, my podsocks have arrived :-)
[06:15] <Shadyman> Why was my authentication rejected for gksudo?
[06:15] <maskd> _SD_Keo: does the mic work in any other apps?
[06:15] <ElitePete> jre 1.42 sucs
[06:15] <ElitePete> sucks*
[06:16] <_SD_Keo> maskd, it worked in skype
[06:16] <cafuego> mrk: Note that you'll want the updated v1.5 kernel module too.
[06:16] <_SD_Keo> maskd, I can hear my friends talking
[06:17] <maskd> mm well i dont know how to fix it, im just trying to help someone else figure it out
[06:19] <Moodles> i have a tnt2 with tv-out, how do I enable the tvout?
[06:20] <_SD_Keo> Alright who can help me
[06:22] <openbysource> what is the prob? _SD_Keo
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> Can someone help me interpret files in /etc/acpi/events?
[06:22] <flungu> synaptic  gives me "W: Couldn't stat source package list" for every repository website, it says that it couldn't find such a directory, but the were all working fine yesterday, does anyone know how to fix this ?
[06:22] <_SD_Keo> openbysource, I can't get my microphone working in teamspeak
[06:22] <Shadyman> flungu: Do an apt-get update
[06:23] <openbysource> ok r u using gnome
[06:23] <_SD_Keo> yes
[06:23] <flungu> ok, let me see
[06:23] <openbysource> have u gone into the alsa-mixer and set your microphone there
[06:23] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to edit the resolution of gnome via text files?  I can't get into X to run the resolution changer.  I changed it to a size that makes X hange
[06:24] <flungu> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:24] <flungu> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:24] <flungu> , i get this error
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> How can I find out the value of a key as referenced with HKEY in a file/script?
[06:24] <ilba7r> flungu close synaptic first
[06:24] <_SD_Keo> openbysource, I can use the mic fine, teamspeak won't register it.
[06:24] <flungu> it's closed
[06:24] <openbysource> ok then that's the software problem ! (guess)
[06:24] <cafuego> flungu: use sudo in front of the command
[06:24] <ilba7r> flungu did you type sudo apt-get update
[06:25] <slonocode> how do i get a terminal where i dont have to type sudo all the time?
[06:25] <Shadyman> slonocode: gksudo gnome-terminal
[06:25] <bur[n] er`> slonocode: gksudo xterm
[06:25] <cafuego> slonocode: run 'sudo -i' once
[06:25] <openbysource> sorry i can't help you out with teamspeak as i don't know the software
[06:25] <slonocode> ty
[06:25] <misterGTG> how dows ubuntu compare to gentoo
[06:25] <maskd> when you install with the 'expert' command, you get root dont you
[06:25] <flungu> ok, it's working thanks cafuego and ilba7r
[06:25] <Shadyman> Fuego!
[06:25] <cafuego> misterGTG: favourably.
[06:26] <Shadyman> misterGTG: I don't use Gentoo because the guys in their chatroom yelled at me :P
[06:26] <Madpilot> what's the cli to get hddtemp to report on my drive SDA1
[06:26] <Madpilot> ?
[06:26] <cafuego> Madpilot: sudo hddtemp /dev/sda
[06:26] <openbysource> can we not login as root in ubuntu
[06:26] <bur[n] er`> can anyone help me fix my gnome resolution problem?  Xfce, GDM, KDE, they all work... but as soon as I log into gnome, it wants to change the resolution and it hangs X
[06:26] <cafuego> openbysource: No.
[06:26] <Shadyman> misterGTG: Folks aren't as condescending here ;)
[06:26] <openbysource> yes we can
[06:26] <cafuego> !tell openbysource -about rootsudo
[06:27] <Madpilot> cafuego: thanks, cool - just messing around
[06:27] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell openbysource about rootsudo
[06:27] <Madpilot> openbysource: use sudo
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> My issue is that on resume from suspend to disk, the system comes up, far enough that I see the password prompt to reaccess my X session, and then it goes down again.  After that, starting it again works.
[06:27] <openbysource> but we can login as root in a terminal in ubuntu
[06:27] <cafuego> openbysource: Just because we can doesn't mean we should, or that it's a good idea.
[06:27] <openbysource> ok
[06:27] <Shadyman> I don't knwo what i did to fix my gtsudo authentication problems, but I think it involved getting rid of "evolution".
[06:28] <Shadyman> gksudo*
[06:29] <hunteraz> hello all
[06:29] <Shadyman> hunteraz: Hi :D
[06:29] <hunteraz> anyone use Steam under ubuntu?
[06:29] <cimon> well, using the setting HP PSC 1310 instead of 1510 was surprisingly poor. I am getting dozens of pages of digital gibberish.
[06:29] <hunteraz> i mean running CounterStrike Source?
[06:29] <openbysource> hunteraz: hi
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> I do have something funny-looking from # tail /var/log/acpid, but I don't understand it.
[06:29] <Shadyman> cimon: Is there a driver for the HP 1610?
[06:29] <hunteraz> hehe im busy updating waiting for it to install :)
[06:30] <cimon> might be.
[06:30] <reymund> hello fluxbox users
[06:30] <Shadyman> cimon: The 1610 is the direct successor of the 1510, might have more luck there.
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> cimon, Otherwise, I'll bet dapper is including the 1510 (didn't it come out since October?), so you may have to look under development repos for something.
[06:31] <LoneWolf071> how do i cahnge the font sizew, not for just KDE, but all programs, likexchat and gaim in KDE??
[06:31] <Shadyman> tonyyarusso: 1510's been out for a while, but sure :)
[06:32] <angel12> hey guys, im trying to install ndiswrapper, and i go into the directory (i downloaded from sourceforge) and type make, but i get an error
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> Shadyman, All right.  I hadn't seen them until last week, so that's just me.
[06:32] <Shadyman> tonyyarusso: I work at a big-box store ;)
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> Can someone interpret the output from tail /var/log/acpi at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6255 for me?
[06:32] <angel12> make[2] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[06:32] <angel12>  is the error i get
[06:32] <Shadyman> angel12: Don't bother compiling for yourself. Get it from the package manager
[06:33] <Shadyman> angel12: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:33] <cimon> tonyyarusso, Shadyman: the next ones are 1600 (without the ten) and 2110
[06:34] <angel12> Shadyman, thats how ive always done it, i have build essential
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> cimon, I'd try 1600 first.
[06:34] <Shadyman> cimon: Never seen a 1600 before.
[06:34] <nalioth> angel12: install gcc-3.4
[06:35] <Shadyman> angel12: Weird, because build-essential should give it to you.
[06:35] <angel12> nalioth, i have gcc 4, how would i install gcc-3.4?
[06:35] <nalioth> angel12: same way you install anything else
[06:35] <angel12> no wait i have it too
[06:35] <nalioth> angel12: you can have as many gcc versions as you like installed at one time
[06:35] <Davey> Shadyman: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_1510
[06:36] <kestas> does anyone know how you can enable use of the execute disable bit on ubuntu?
[06:36] <Shadyman> Davey: I'm not the one with the HP printer :)
[06:36] <angel12> nalioth, i thought i had it, i guess during the upgrade from hoary to breezy it was lost
[06:36] <Davey> oh, oops
[06:36] <Davey> cimon: see that link - and this one, http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/
[06:36] <crouton> howdy folks
[06:36] <Shadyman> Davey: It's cimon
[06:36] <Shadyman> yeah :)
[06:37] <crouton> Anybody know if it's possible to 'share' two video cards with the same X session?
[06:37] <crouton> It appears that two video cards run two separate X sessions, which is totally freaking me out.
[06:37] <DShepherd> I cant get firefox or yelp to work. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6244 <-- can anyone shed any light on that matter
[06:38] <flungu> where can i a list of extra repository sites to add to sources.list?
[06:38] <Hobbsee> !repos
[06:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:39] <flungu> merci
[06:39] <reymund> hello all.  i installed fluxbox and it worked!  problem is i clicked on a menu option that said anti-alias.  since then the menu items are so small i cannot read them. i removed fluxbox then reinstalled it again, but no luck. any suggestion to get it to display a readable menu?
[06:39] <cimon> Davey: I have been there
[06:40] <maskd> is there a way to have 2 open GUI sessions?
[06:40] <maskd> with the F keys?
[06:40] <navarone> reymund, when you unibnstalled first did you do complete removal?
[06:40] <Wilf> yeah
[06:40] <nalioth> maskd: applications > system tools > new login
[06:41] <slonocode> anyone have ivtv drivers running?  and can tell me whats in their /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware directory?
[06:41] <Wilf> press the Fopennewgui key
[06:41] <longfeather> hello, have a question re: LVM on root (/) and adding a disk to extend the diskspace...  I am having a problem - can anyone help?
[06:41] <nalioth> maskd: consoles f7 and f8 will be your guis
[06:41] <writer> Hi all! I have question. I install KNote. Now Knote allways stay on Desktop. How remove KNote from start?
[06:41] <reymund> no i just did mark for removal
[06:41] <maskd> ok, wicked thanks
[06:41] <crouton> longfeather, what's the question
[06:41] <navarone> writer...whjen you log out make sure knotes is closed and save session
[06:42] <writer> navarone: thanks, I will try
[06:42] <longfeather> crouton, I added a 160GB disk to the root partition (ext3) but cannot extend the filesystem to include the extra space
[06:43] <navarone> writer make sure you check all desktops...lol
[06:43] <crouton> longfeather, did you add the disk to the volume group first?
[06:43] <hunteraz> longfeather, where did you mount the space too?
[06:43] <hunteraz> err nvm, hehe?
[06:43] <ilba7r> reymund opne the directory ./fluxbox in your home directory edit hte file init search for antialias and set it to false
[06:43] <longfeather> crouton, yes
[06:43] <crouton> longfeather, then you added it to the logical volume?
[06:44] <cyphase> Dapper isn't going to be to earth-shattering, right?
[06:44] <cyphase> :)
[06:44] <Steil> dapper is pretty nice
[06:44] <Steil> so far anyways
[06:44] <cyphase> argh
[06:44] <cyphase> i keep forgetting
[06:44] <cyphase> to burn the live cd
[06:44] <Steil> breezy felt a bit slow
[06:44] <writer> navarone: OK. Do you know where is the Desktop tune in txt file?
[06:45] <cyphase> but Dapper is more about polishing Ubuntu up then adding a lot of new stuff i think
[06:45] <navarone> tune in?
[06:45] <Steil> dapper boots quicker and it feels more responsive except for the panel which lags with the icons every once in a while
[06:45] <navarone> writer no idea
[06:45] <cheatersrealm> what tool do I use to add init scripts to the default runlevel?
[06:45] <jdmpike> anyone in here use qdvdauthor?
[06:45] <writer> OK
[06:45] <crouton> rc-update?
[06:45] <longfeather> crouton, yes, added it to the logical volume
[06:46] <cheatersrealm> crouton: doesn't exist?
[06:46] <cyphase> Dapper+1 on the other hand is the beginning of a new "release cycle", or whatever the term was
[06:46] <crouton> cheatersrealm, maybe update-rc?
[06:46] <cyphase> still, i can't wait for dapper :D
[06:46] <reymund> ilba7r... i did that, i even deleted the directory before doing a reinstall.  still the menu items are so small to be readable.
[06:46] <cheatersrealm> crouton: : update-rc.d
[06:46] <jdmpike> cyphase, has a date been set for dapper?
[06:46] <cheatersrealm> crouton: : thanks
[06:46] <jdmpike> cyphase, should be in april right?
[06:46] <crouton> longfeather, I think at this point you would have to umount the filesystem in order to extend it to use the newly added space.
[06:46] <slonocode> anyone running ivtv drivers?
[06:46] <noway> I'm trying to install ZSNES and I get this http://pastebin.com/481203 - what's wrong? I'm doing it like it says in "Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide"
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> !releasecycle
[06:47] <ubotu> I don't know, tonyyarusso
[06:47] <ilba7r> reymund there is a recommended font with fluxbox can not remember it look for it at the fluxbox website
[06:47] <cyphase> jdmpike, no, but considering previous release, it should be the second week of april
[06:47] <cyphase> maybe 3rd
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> cyphase, Seriously, what does that mean?
[06:47] <longfeather> crouton, that's the real issue, I can't figure how to doe that as the root partition is in LVM
[06:47] <cyphase> tonyyarusso, lemme look up the wiki article
[06:47] <crouton> longfeather, does it have to be the root partition?  maybe make it a separate partition/mount point.
[06:48] <_SD_Keo> OK I need to get my microphone in teamspeak, it's not picking it up, and I can hear the loopback in my headphones.
[06:48] <crouton> longfeather, otherwise I'd say you may have to boot to single-user, or rescue, or possibly off a LiveCD in order to accomplish what you're trying to do.
[06:48] <longfeather> crouton, note that I chose to create a LVM partition from the initial install of ubuntu breezy
[06:49] <flungu> why do i get this when i try to use gedit from the terminal "(gedit:10961): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:49] <flungu> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."
[06:49] <crouton> anybody using LVM on / ?
[06:49] <ilba7r> reymund did you try to install another theme?
[06:50] <ilba7r> reymund ok the recommended font is artwiz fonts
[06:50] <Steil> mmmm
[06:51] <Steil> amaroK is nice
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> How long does it take for a spec suggested through Launchpad to be reviewed?
[06:51] <maskd> im using rhythmbox, i like it cuz its fairly simple
[06:51] <openbysource> can anybody tell me where to get mp3 support for amaroK
[06:51] <crouton> longfeather, maybe do a google search?
[06:51] <longfeather> crouton, did that, have come here due to lack of answers, spent 4 hours so far
[06:51] <_SD_Keo> Ok, my mic isn't being picked up at all..
[06:52] <crouton> hmm
[06:52] <Madpilot> !tell openbysource about mp3
[06:52] <navarone> maskd me too...plus you can burn direct thru pls files
[06:53] <mordie2> hi all, stupid question coming: what's a good IRC client for ubuntu but not Xchat?
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> How can I check my public IP address?
[06:53] <longfeather> crouton, have ubuntu installed on the same machine, different hd, and cannot extend the fs that way either... I am stumped
[06:53] <navarone> mordie x based or command line?
[06:53] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: your whois
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee, How's that?
[06:54] <crouton> longfeather, because they're both LVM on / ?
[06:54] <mordie2> navarone: gnome based
[06:54] <maskd> gaim is pretty good
[06:54] <Hobbsee>  [Whois]  tonyyarusso is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Anthony Yarusso)
[06:54] <maskd> im using it atm
[06:54] <maskd> mordie2
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee, How about from outside of IRC?
[06:54] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: google for a website that shows you your IP
[06:54] <cyphase> tonyyarusso, http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=660
[06:55] <reymund> ilba7r. . . maybe i could try that font if i could get into fluxbox with a readable menu.  or is there a way to tell fluxbox to use that font from a console?  i'm new to linux and so far gnome/kde are what i have been into.  i was to use fluxbox for the speed benefit over the 2...
[06:55] <cyphase> second question on the page
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee, There aren't any command line tools or something for that?
[06:55] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: http://www.whatismyip.com/
[06:55] <navarone> mordie2, ...hmmm...I've only used xchat-gtk and Bx and irssi a few times
[06:55] <cyphase> not on the wiki i guess :)
[06:55] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: ah, ifconfig should, i guess
[06:55] <mordie2> hmm didn't realise giam had irc ...*wonders off look at it*
[06:55] <crouton> longfeather: I'm looking about, maybe I can get an answer for ya
[06:55] <StyXman> reymund: you could also try xfce, but that's just a thought
[06:56] <maskd> mordie2: gaim 2.0 does i know that
[06:56] <cyphase> ifconfig will only work if your connected directly to the net, not through a home router
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee, It seemed that ifconfig gave different results when using DSL, reporting the IP as considered by the router, not the outside world.
[06:56] <Hobbsee> i dont know, sorry
[06:56] <navarone> mordie2, you could use chatzilla as well...but I think you'd be happier with xchat over chatzilla
[06:56] <crouton> longfeather: This isn't exactly on topic but it covers a lot of the same ground: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/upgraderoottolvm.html
[06:57] <cyphase> tonyyarusso, your on dialup, right?
[06:57] <ilba7r> reymund all i did was to install the font and restart fluxbox. check also gkrellm it will give you a lot of hardware status and cool icons. Also light weight. I did not like the default theme so i installed some others
[06:57] <mordie2> navarone: does anyone of them support Xdcc sending? that you know off?
[06:58] <navarone> tonyyarusso, try "netstat" in terminal  I think -a will list active
[06:58] <cyphase> tonyyarusso, did you see the link?
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> cyphase, This week I am.  At school I'm not.
[06:58] <cyphase> oh
[06:58] <navarone> mordie2, I dunno about that...I don't even use servers in chat myself
[06:58] <longfeather> crouton, no, history: migrated from winxp (bluescreen, wouldn't boot) which was installed on hda, added hdd (slave on 2nd IDE channel) and installed ubuntu with regular ext3 partitions, got comfy and then wiped hda and installed ubuntu with / as LVM, added 3rd hd (hdg, 2nd ide channel on PCI IDE card) and added to hda LVM.  Note I can boot into the first ubuntu regular ext3 install on hdd
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> cyphase, Yes.
[06:59] <mordie2> navarone err i meant recieving files ....I'll try it laterz :)
[06:59] <crouton> longfeather: But you're stuck at having to unmount the root partition in order to extend the filesystem to use the extra space.
[07:00] <longfeather> crouton, thx, have already looked at that link and nogo so far
[07:00] <longfeather> crouton, correct, I am caught in a catch-22
[07:00] <crouton> longfeather: That appears to be about the only way to do it short of a LiveCD, that I can think of.  You need the LVM tools.
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> navarone, Interesting.  Sort of works, but a more concise solution would be better.
[07:01] <noway> I'm trying to install ZSNES and I get this http://pastebin.com/481203 - what's wrong? I'm doing it like it says in "Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide"
[07:01] <crouton> longfeather: What gets me is that *nobody* has posted about this issue anywhere.  LVM isn't that new, somebody has to have done something like this before.
[07:01] <maskd> noway: it seems that the file isnt a gzip file
[07:02] <longfeather> crouton, that's what I thought too when I chose LVM on /... lol
[07:02] <noway> maskd: So, what do I do then?
[07:02] <maskd> where did you get the file from, it could just be another file type renamed
[07:02] <navarone> tonyyarusso, try a website like www.grc.com  it is a site that tests your firewall...it should at some point tell you the ip address it is probing...ie your address
[07:03] <navarone> tonyyarusso, you go to the Shieldsup section
[07:03] <noway> maskd: I got it from http://www.zsnes.com/
[07:03] <longfeather> crouton: note that I have access to the LVM tools when I boot into by orignal install of ubuntu
[07:03] <maskd> noway: ah...
[07:03] <crouton> huh
[07:04] <ordinary> dangit
[07:04] <crouton> longfeather: That might work, but you'd have to 'import' the VGs and LVs into your alternate Ubuntu.
[07:04] <DShepherd> ok.. I solved my firefox and yelp problems... thanks you guys anyways..
[07:05] <Madpilot> noway: if you're following "ubuntuguide.org", it's out of date & not recommended...
[07:05] <ordinary> i wanted to talk to the great shunryu suzuki...
[07:05] <Madpilot> !tell noway about ubuntuguide
[07:05] <ordinary> :D
[07:05] <ordinary> ShunryuSuzuki!
[07:05] <ShunryuSuzuki> ?!!
[07:05] <ordinary> one enlightenment please
[07:06] <ShunryuSuzuki> get in line
[07:06] <noway> Madpilot, Well I tried looking in the official one too but I didn't really find anything
[07:06] <longfeather> crouton: I assume the huh is for me: history: migrated from winxp (bluescreen, wouldn't boot) which was installed on hda, added hdd (slave on 2nd IDE channel) and installed ubuntu with regular ext3 partitions, got comfy and then wiped hda and installed ubuntu with / as LVM, added 3rd hd (hdg, 2nd ide channel on PCI IDE card) and added to hda LVM.  Note I can boot into the first ubuntu regular ext3 install on hdd
[07:06] <crouton> longfeather: yeah, i read all that
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> So once I've installed laptop-mode-tools, how do I run it?
[07:07] <Madpilot> noway: ZSNES is in Ubuntu's repositories, you can install it w/ Synaptic
[07:09] <jdmpike> where is libgnomeui-2.0?
[07:09] <noway> Madpilot, Hm, I only find visualboyadvance when searching and I've enabled all repositories.
[07:09] <ElitePete> can anyone help me with poor sound quality on ubuntu?
[07:09] <ordinary> Great Roshi Suzuki, can you assist me in getting my wireless internet working?
[07:09] <Madpilot> noway: you must not have the Multiverse enabled - zsnes is in Multiverse
[07:10] <maskd> noway: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fz%2Fzsnes%2Fzsnes_1.400-1ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=b9c484c637c05d65204300e7771a3fc7&arch=i386&type=main
[07:10] <maskd> or download it there and dpkg -i
[07:10] <garry> Poor sound quality?? Hissing? Low volume? Muddy? need more info..
[07:10] <noway> Madpilot, Ah, that's right, multiverse wasn't even in the list
[07:11] <crouton> longfeather: Looks like the alternate linux boot is going to be the best bet.
[07:11] <angel12> is anyone else having problems with gaim? i try to connect to aim and msn, and it wont connect
[07:11] <Madpilot> !repos
[07:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:11] <maskd> what version angel12?
[07:12] <Madpilot> noway: info with ubotu above, if you need it ^^^
[07:12] <angel12> i tried stock 1.5 and i even built 2.0
[07:12] <maskd> could be DNS
[07:12] <maskd> or do websites workl
[07:12] <angel12> web works
[07:12] <maskd> ah
[07:13] <longfeather> crouton: gonna try a livecd boot first and cross my fingers
[07:13] <crouton> longfeather: worth a shot
[07:13] <angel12> now with 2.0 if i try to sign on my msn it crashes, so i think i will reinstall 1.5
[07:13] <maskd> does icq work?
[07:13] <maskd> or irc
[07:13] <angel12> i am on irc :)
[07:13] <angel12> and i dont have icq
[07:13] <cafuego> !rule 1
[07:13] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[07:14] <noway> Madpilot, maskd, Thanks!
[07:14] <Madpilot> noway: np
[07:14] <z0rz> I just installed bitlbee with apt-get but it won't let me run it as a user .. it says "ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/."
[07:14] <maskd> that is strange angel12, you could try web messenger or amsn or something
[07:14] <z0rz> anyone know how I can run bitlbee as a user?
[07:14] <maskd> noway: no worries
[07:14] <angel12> maskd, are you using it then?
[07:14] <ElitePete> can somone please help me with poor sound quality on my other pc? (running ubuntu)
[07:14] <maskd> yeah im using both irc and msn with gaim 2.0
[07:14] <garry> Live CD's are no guarantee  that the distro will work. I had one  I ran a live cd,  and then I tried to install it. The distro ate my computer for luinch.
[07:14] <angel12> maskd, wierd...
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> Completely random: What's the suggestion of the day of a cool program to check out / show a friend?
[07:15] <crouton> garry: did it taste like a reuben?
[07:15] <maskd> angel12: yeah it is strange, does aim crash it oo?
[07:15] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: Scribus?
[07:15] <z0rz> tonyyarusso: hamachi and synergy
[07:15] <z0rz> so f**king sweet programs
[07:15] <crouton> links?
[07:15] <longfeather> tonnyarusso: celestia
[07:15] <z0rz> google.com
[07:16] <navarone> tonyyarusso, off tyhe top of my head...LMMS at sourceforge...music sequencer editor thingy. You have to compile though
[07:16] <crouton> aw
[07:16] <angel12> maskd, it doesnt connect, it sits for a while. then i get an error on it, about not being able to reach server, im on 64bit if that would make a diff
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> Oh, and a brief explanation of what they are, Madpilot, z0rz, crouton, longfeather, navarone.
[07:16] <crouton> I was going to suggest VMWare Workstation/Player. :)
[07:17] <z0rz> Synergy: allows you to use 1 mouse and keyboard acrost multimonitors without any hardware devices (Kinda like dual displays except on multiple operating systems)
[07:17] <longfeather> tonyyarussao: celestia: http://www.shatters.net/celestia/ (google is my friend)
[07:17] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: Scribus is a desktop publishing (DTP) app, very powerful
[07:17] <crouton> z0rz: ah, i saw that.  didn't see much use for it at the time...
[07:17] <reymund> thanks for all your suggestions.  i'll try to do complete removal.
[07:17] <haasteem> hi, could someone give me a reason why synaptic still says i can upgrade 616 packages, while i just upgraded to breezy?
[07:17] <navarone> http://lmms.sourceforge.net/  <--- interesting if you want to try. But again you have to compile and stuff. I've not had any success compiling myself...lol
[07:17] <z0rz> Hamachi: allows you to securely connect through a router (without punching holes) in it to other computers
[07:17] <maskd> angel12: sorry but i cant suggest anything other than just re-installing and using 1.5 and see if that works
[07:17] <ara> what is a .run file? how do in make it work?
[07:17] <z0rz> basically it makes you're own lan between you're friends and everything.. and it's amazingly fast
[07:18] <crouton> z0rz: Oooooooooh.  GotoMyPC?
[07:18] <angel12> maskd, just tried it, not workin, i wonder whats wrong :(
[07:18] <z0rz> crouton .. Do you have more than one computer?
[07:18] <z0rz> No nothing like GotoMyPC
[07:18] <crouton> z0rz: Several, but I have a KVM switch. ;)
[07:18] <maskd> does http://webmessenger.msn.com work?
[07:18] <longfeather> ara: chmod u+x filenaname.bin
[07:18] <z0rz> Do you have a laptop?
[07:18] <longfeather> ara: then run the file
[07:18] <crouton> z0rz: Yes.
[07:18] <ara> ok
[07:18] <navarone> celestia is available in repos as well
[07:18] <angel12> maskd, i doubt it would, i dont have java for 64bit
[07:19] <maskd> angel12: it doesnt use java
[07:19] <crouton> oh.
[07:19] <z0rz> well you could just set you're laptop down on your desk beside your keyboard.. run synergy on it and your computer that has your kb plugged into it.. and simply move your mouse from one screen to the next
[07:19] <crouton> secure VLAN P2P.
[07:19] <maskd> it uses javascript/dhtml
[07:19] <z0rz> pasically crouton .. except no worries about if you have administration access to the router to punch holes in it
[07:19] <angel12> maskd, firefox isnt supported
[07:19] <z0rz> it's also nice for college gamers/nerds
[07:19] <crouton> z0rz: because it's client-side.  That's why i was thinking GotoMyPC.
[07:20] <z0rz> well the computer that has the kb/mouse plugged into it.. runs the server
[07:20] <z0rz> and all the others run the client to connect to the computer w/ kb/mse
[07:20] <crouton> z0rz: 3rd-party server to bootstrap communication, then off you go direct
[07:20] <z0rz> oh we're talking about hamachi now
[07:20] <alekz> hi i've installed telnetd, how can i start service ?
[07:20] <crouton> z0rz: :)
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> Thanks everybody.  I'm having a Windows user over tomorrow and I want some toys to show off.
[07:20] <z0rz> I don't know why I switched back to hamachi in my head
[07:21] <navarone> lol
[07:21] <flipperwilson> for hamachi, can you do remote desktop/vnc over it?
[07:21] <z0rz> yup
[07:21] <z0rz> rdc works perfect.. and no worries about unsecure passwords/security holes in RDC .. it's all encrytped
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> Oh, I know what would be sweet.  Learn how to use TightVNC in the next 12 hours, and access my computer from the one down the hall.
[07:22] <garry> Well, apparrently, I can't reply to tells until I "Register" What am I to register and how?
[07:22] <haasteem> i upgraded to breezy and noticed that with right-click on the desktop i can't open a terminal anymore. is that the way it's supposed to be?
[07:22] <crouton> VNC is very nice
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> (How tricky is VNC anyway?)
[07:22] <flipperwilson> in yer experience, has it (hamachi) been happy behind firewalls?
[07:22] <z0rz> tonyyarusso I like UltraVNC personally.. it has file sharing built in
[07:22] <z0rz> VNC is really easy espcially acrost the same network
[07:22] <z0rz> apt-get install vncserver
[07:22] <ElitePete> can somone please help me with poor sound quality on my other pc? (running ubuntu)
[07:22] <DShepherd> haasteem: not on my breezy it isnt
[07:22] <alekz> hi i've installed telnetd, how can i start service ???
[07:22] <z0rz> or is it vnc-server?
[07:22] <garry> brb
[07:23] <crouton> absurdly easy.  but it'd be even easier if somebody figured a way to marry ZeroConf and VNC.
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> z0rz, I'd have to do it from two separate dial-up connections since I'm at home.  :(
[07:23] <haasteem> DShepherd: hmmm.... do you know a way to get it back there?
[07:23] <z0rz> wow!
[07:23] <z0rz> yeah it'd still be easy
[07:23] <z0rz> but slow
[07:23] <DShepherd> haasteem: nope....
[07:23] <z0rz> anyways.. does anyone use bitlbee?
[07:23] <flipperwilson> i'd much rather get freenx working than vnc
[07:24] <haasteem> i also noticed that in the applications>systems tools menu, open terminal is gone, just open root terminal is there...
[07:24] <zakame> hi all! :D
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> haasteem, Check Accessories.
[07:25] <crouton> haasteem: Terminal is under Applications/Accessories now
[07:25] <zakame> what's a good tool to mass convert xcf -> jpg pictures?
[07:25] <haasteem> tonyyarusso: thanks
[07:25] <haasteem> got it
[07:25] <pilgrim> How do I install xine in ubuntu 5.10?
[07:26] <ilba7r> haasteem for the terminal it is an extra package let me check the name for you
[07:26] <brenner> pilgrim: install the xine-ui package
[07:26] <cimon> HMM. the HP printer driver site doesn't list 1510 among their supported printers. Looks like I am screwed...
[07:26] <navarone> okay...i am gone...cya folks
[07:26] <pilgrim> brenner, E: Package xine-ui has no installation candidate
[07:26] <haasteem> ilba7r: thanks
[07:27] <ilba7r> haasteem nautilus-open-terminal
[07:27] <brenner> pilgrim: you need to enable the universe repo
[07:27] <brenner> ubotu: tell pilgrim about repos
[07:27] <ElitePete> WOw, something from the forums actually helped me for once
[07:27] <ElitePete> PCM = the devi
[07:27] <DShepherd> lol
[07:27] <ElitePete> l
[07:27] <haasteem> ilba7r: alright, thanks, Il going to install it right away
[07:27] <pilgrim> brenner, thanks.
[07:27] <haasteem> ilba7r: it's a bit strange that i lost it with upgrading, no?
[07:28] <ilba7r> haasteem might be the name changed
[07:28] <brenner> pilgrim: yw
[07:28] <ilba7r> lol for me send to do not appear at all
[07:29] <haasteem> ilba7r: right
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> Celestia's a wee bit resource intensive it seems.
[07:30] <nalioth> brenner: you in here causing trouble?
[07:30] <z0rz> I just apt-get install bitlbee but for some reason when I run it it says "ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/."
[07:30] <haasteem> ilba7r: that doesn't seem to do the trick...
[07:30] <brenner> nalioth: yessum
[07:30] <nalioth> brenner: figgered as much
[07:31] <ilba7r> haasteem do not know why
[07:31] <ilba7r> haasteem one question what is your window manager are you using the default gnome
[07:32] <haasteem> ilba7r: yes, i am
[07:32] <haasteem> gnome 2.12.1
[07:32] <SOMNIVM> #blackholiday
[07:32] <ilba7r> might be you need to restart nautilus for it to work
[07:33] <ilba7r> so just log out and in or type in a terminal killall nautilus
[07:33] <utiti> greetings all. Just installed ubuntu 5.10, looks great, but encountered 1 problem: installer doesn't ask for root pword. So what is the default root pwd in ubuntu (so I could change it)?
[07:33] <haasteem> ilba7r: right
[07:33] <haasteem> ilba7r: let me try that right away
[07:33] <ilba7r> ok
[07:34] <ilba7r> ubotu tell utiti about root
[07:35] <ubunoo> d\
[07:35] <ubunoo> !mac
[07:35] <ubotu> No idea, ubunoo
[07:35] <nalioth> ubotu: have a mac question? ask it
[07:35] <ubotu> nalioth: I don't know
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> More ideas of fun toys to show a Windows user what you can get for free?
[07:35] <nalioth> ubunoo: if you have a mac question, ask it
[07:36] <Inf3ctedFx> ppl when a script start with #!/bin/sh how can I execute it?
[07:36] <ilba7r> tonyyarusso you know about enlightenment for sure right
[07:36] <nalioth> Inf3ctedFx: from a terminal   ./filename
[07:36] <ubunoo> nalioth: ok thanks:)
[07:36] <Inf3ctedFx> oks
[07:36] <ubunoo> nalioth: what is the mac fs?
[07:36] <Inf3ctedFx> nalioth:  I have the code so is just copy the code into a file the exec the file?
[07:37] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: how about what you DON'T need?   What's so exciting about that?
[07:37] <mrkoje> Inf3ctedFx,  you will first have to chmod 0755 thesript.sh
[07:37] <ubunoo> !HFS
[07:37] <ubotu> ubunoo: Wish i knew
[07:37] <utiti> ilba7r: thx for tip on root...
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Already mentioned.  A lot!
[07:37] <Inf3ctedFx> ok thx
[07:37] <mrkoje> Inf3ctedFx,  then you can run it like this  ./thescript
[07:37] <garryFre>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[07:37] <brenner> pilgrim: actually, if you're running gnome, gxine might be nicer for you
[07:37] <Inf3ctedFx> here is the script:  --> http://attrition.org/tools/src/ros
[07:37] <ilba7r> tonnyyarusso yo used DR17 right
[07:38] <pilgrim> brenner, cool.
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r, What?
[07:38] <haasteem> ilba7r: it worked
[07:38] <z0rz> How can I grep more than one phrase without doing "cat file.conf | grep phrase1 | grep phrase2"
[07:38] <ubunoo> any one know about the mac filesystem?
[07:38] <garryFre> #
[07:38] <garryFre>     /msg nickserv set email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:38] <ilba7r> tonnyyarusso englightnemnt DR17
[07:38] <crouton> you don't want to double pipe anyways, z0rz
[07:38] <ilba7r> haasteem great my friend enjoy
[07:38] <Badm4n> anyone can tellme/teach me howto: step by step to have a our own rc.local @ ubuntu 5.10
[07:38] <flipperwilson> tony - i have shown a few buds amarok - a single media player that has wiki/browser capabilities with lyrics in another pane is pretty cool
[07:38] <z0rz> ok .. so how do I do it?
[07:39] <haasteem> :)
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r, What's that do?
[07:39] <ubunoo> nalioth: is HFS the current mac file system?
[07:39] <ilba7r> tonnyyarusso it is an eye candy window manager
[07:39] <haasteem> i have a few other small problems...
[07:39] <nalioth> ubunoo: hfs+(something) (the 10.4 brings something 'extra' to hfs+)
[07:40] <ilba7r> tonnyyarusso inot in the repos though for it is still in development
[07:40] <ubunoo> nalioth: can you write to it?
[07:40] <nalioth> ubunoo: you can mount your drives temporarily by using 'hfs+'
[07:40] <nalioth> ubunoo: yes you can write to it, but i would only do it temporarily
[07:40] <ubunoo> ok see
[07:40] <ubunoo> ok
[07:40] <ubunoo> um
[07:40] <ilba7r> haasteem ask your question if someone know the answar will sure reply
[07:40] <haasteem> one other thing: i had system monitor in the panel, it won't work anymore...
[07:40] <z0rz> I tried "cat poop | grep -e phrase1 -e phrase2 but that didn't do what I wanted.. it grepped everything with phrase1 OR phrase2 i want only phrase1 AND phrase2
[07:40] <haasteem> ilba7r: true
[07:41] <ubunoo> nalioth: can you make a hfs file system?
[07:41] <nalioth> ubunoo: if you have hfstools installed
[07:41] <haasteem> so, how do i get that back to work again?
[07:41] <garry>  /msg nickserv link garryfre Slogger
[07:41] <ara> what's the best media player for my ubuntu linux?
[07:41] <ilba7r> haasteem your best bet is to remove it and re add it again
[07:42] <ubunoo> nalioth: and my main question was about spotlight
[07:42] <nalioth> garry: i suggest you change your password(s)
[07:42] <nalioth> ubunoo: what about it?
[07:42] <UncleD> Is there an X11 dev package that includes libxpm for ubuntu?
[07:42] <ubunoo> nalioth: is that an upcoming replacement to HFS?
[07:42] <haasteem> ilba7r: tried that... no luck
[07:42] <eclair> ara: depends on you. there's lots to check out like totem-xine etc
[07:42] <garry> I would prefer that this program didn't go publishing my passwords. :(
[07:42] <ubunoo> nalioth: that has not be releasted yet
[07:42] <brenner> UncleD: packages.ubuntu.com has a file search feature
[07:42] <nalioth> ubunoo: spotlight is completely different from a filesystem. join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please as we are.
[07:42] <UncleD> brenner: i'm getting this error when install php5
[07:42] <UncleD> configure: error: libXpm.(a|so) not found.
[07:43] <ara> i already have the totem , but it won't play wmv files?
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[08:01] (maskd/#ubuntu) i hope in dapper that during installation we'll have a choice on which applications to install with the base system
[08:02] (UncleD/#ubuntu) cafuego: Well, i've worked through a bunch of errors and properly installed libpng,libjpeg,libfreetype6-dev,curl,libxpm-dev
[08:02] (UncleD/#ubuntu) but now i get a new error
[08:02] (gerald-volt/#ubuntu) no
[08:02] (gerald-volt/#ubuntu) gome-printer-setup thing was already installed
[08:02] (garry/#ubuntu) Not that I'm slamming slack. Its fun.
[08:02] (cafuego/#ubuntu) UncleD: No, why are you compiling it at all?
[08:02] (UncleD/#ubuntu) because i dont know how to use apt-get to build it using
[08:02] (z0rz/#ubuntu) anyone?
[08:02] (UncleD/#ubuntu) gd
[08:02] (UncleD/#ubuntu) Now brenner is suggesting something called build-dep
[08:03] (gerald-volt/#ubuntu) howo do I find out what command to open openoffice?
[08:03] (cafuego/#ubuntu) UncleD: gd comes as prepackaged php5 add-on. Also no compiling required.
[08:03] (UncleD/#ubuntu) but i don't know how to get URI's for my sources.lst
[08:03] (cafuego/#ubuntu) UncleD: sudo apt-get install php5 php5-gd
[08:03] (UncleD/#ubuntu) cafuego: it doesn't seem to be working. my drupal installation was telling me it wasn't working
[08:03] (UncleD/#ubuntu) cafeugo: i did that already
[08:03] (ilba7r/#ubuntu) gerald-volt oowriter2 for the writer oocalc2 for the spread sheet
[08:03] (UncleD/#ubuntu) my drupal install said it php5-gd wasn't enabled.
[08:03] (cafuego/#ubuntu) UncleD: Then you probably need to enable it in the php.ini file.
[08:03] <nalioth> UncleD: they exist already, all you have to do is enable them
[08:04] <UncleD> I went into php.ini and there was nothing in there to uncomment
[08:04] <cafuego> UncleD: Just because drupal isn't clever doesn't mean wrecking Ubuntu is a good idea ;-)
[08:04] <UncleD> :P
[08:04] <cafuego> UncleD: You will if you persist on building php by hand.
[08:04] <gerald-volt> hhmm
[08:04] <UncleD> so far my ubuntu seems ok..
[08:04] <gerald-volt> somehow the openoffice doesn't look the same as the open office I used when I was using gnome
[08:04] <cafuego> UncleD: Running apache2? With php4 (default?) or php5?
[08:05] <LeeColleton> my breezy system keeps getting Buffer I/O errors when accessing a Firewire disk.   This nickname is owned by someone else
[08:05] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[08:05] <UncleD> tony: not without some data recovery tools
[08:05] <cafuego> UncleD: Is that even in Ubuntu?
[08:05] <cafuego> !info lighttpd
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> UncleD, Mrph.
[08:05] <Helfax> Has anyone had an arp problem with Breezy and wireless?
[08:05] <ilba7r> gerald-volt for the rest ls /usr/bin/oo*
[08:05] <cafuego> No, it's not.
[08:05] <UncleD> cafuego: I installed lighttpd w/ fast-cgi.
[08:05] <gerald-volt> thanks
[08:06] <UncleD> I don't wish to use apache.
[08:06] <cafuego> UncleD: .. from source
[08:06] <Helfax> Other clients on the network won't add Ubuntu to the arp table.
[08:06] <cafuego> UncleD: Did you at least put it in /usr/local ?
[08:06] <UncleD> lighttpd is working fine
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> Can someone please give me the four files from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11?
[08:06] <UncleD> it's in /usr/local/sbin/lighttpd
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> Maybe that would work?
[08:06] <UncleD> and /usr/local/etc/lighttpd.conf
[08:07] <UncleD> yes, i installed lighttpd from src
[08:07] <Badm4n> anyone can tellme/teach me howto: step by step to have a our own rc.local @ ubuntu 5.10
[08:07] <cafuego> Well, then I can't help you, as you're not asking Ubuntu related questions.
[08:07] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone here knows C ?
[08:08] <hume> hi.... suddenly my java programs won't work, and it seems as the sun java that i installed have been replaced by gij - anyone recognizes this?
[08:08] <garry> Lots of us probably know C
[08:08] <Inf3ctedFx> ok i'm trying to compiling a program but I dont know If i'm doing it right
[08:08] <Inf3ctedFx> I'm having an errors
[08:09] <UncleD> try gcc -o file file.c
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> Or tell me any other way of restoring those files.  (locale, rgb.txt, xkb, xserver)
[08:09] <Inf3ctedFx> what I'm doing is gcc -O fie file.c
[08:09] <Inf3ctedFx> yes, thats what I'm doing
[08:09] <UncleD> you may be missing required libraries or header files
[08:09] <UncleD> or the program just doesn't compile properly
[08:09] <ilba7r> hume java is a symbolic link to your java exec. make another link that point to your sunjava exec
[08:09] <Inf3ctedFx> look this is what I'm getting:  --> warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit
[08:09] <brenner> tonyyarusso: sending it to you now
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> brenner: Thanks.
[08:10] <hume> ilba7r, that won't ruin somthing that gij does then? I installed sun java with java-tools and dpkg
[08:10] <Inf3ctedFx> UncleD:  can I show u the code? so u can tell me what is wrong?
[08:11] <brenner> actually, they were links.  it seems like i'm giving you the actual folders
[08:11] <brenner> and i'm not sure if that's what you need
[08:12] <ilba7r> hume i installed sun java directly. you can rename your old link and see how it go. I am confident it will not cause troubles but just in case you will have your old symbolic link
[08:12] <Inf3ctedFx> here is the code --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6256
[08:12] <UncleD> inf3ctedFx, i'm not a C debugger, sorry.
[08:12] <Inf3ctedFx> oks UncleD  thats ok
[08:13] <UncleD> brenner: what change in php.ini do i need to make to enable php5-gd
[08:13] <UncleD> php5-gd is already the newest version.
[08:13] <UncleD> yet not working..
[08:14] <brenner> UncleD: i'm not sure to be honest.  i was just helping you compile...i've got no clue about php.  i do't want to break your system
[08:14] <brenner> *don't
[08:14] <UncleD> hrmph
[08:14] <guanaco_> I installed "KLIK" and when I open the web browser to install software, I get error "Klik is not a register protocol"??? please help
[08:14] <UncleD> brenner: where can I get build-dep URI's from
[08:15] <Helfax> Anyone know the apt line for breezy backports?
[08:15] <brenner> ubotu: tell UncleD about repos
[08:15] <brenner> UncleD: there's 2 pastebin links there
[08:16] <brenner> choose the relevant one
[08:16] <Badm4n> anyone can tellme/teach me howto: step by step to have a our own rc.local @ ubuntu 5.10
[08:17] <cafuego> UncleD: You need to install php5-cgi and edit /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini. make sure it says 'extension=gd.so'
[08:17] <ara> what does this error mean? " status database area is locked by another process"
[08:18] <brenner> ara: telling us what command you were using might be helpful
[08:18] <ara> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:19] <cafuego> ara: Make sure apt-get or synaptic aren't running.
[08:19] <ara> synaphtic was running
[08:20] <humbraro> Can anybody here supply a command that will forcibly boot a logged on user?
[08:20] <ara> ok, it works now
[08:20] <cafuego> humbraro: kill thier login shell.
[08:20] <humbraro> something to the effect of kill -9 user?
[08:20] <UncleD> cafuego: ea, mine says 'extension=gd.so' already..
[08:21] <UncleD> cafuego: php5-cgi already installed too.
[08:21] <humbraro> cafuego: will that work if their logged in from X?  I didn't see a bash shell with their username
[08:21] <duckdown> Can someone tell me which desktop manager has the absolute most eye candy?  Lots of animations and transparencies, etc?
[08:22] <cafuego> humbraro: kill their 'x-session-manager' process
[08:22] <humbraro> duckdown: check out E17
[08:22] <humbraro> cafuego: thanks
[08:22] <duckdown> humbraro, cool I'll check it out
[08:22] <humbraro> duckdown: its not as intuitive as kde or gnome though
[08:23] <duckdown> I want something really flashy for this laptop :)
[08:23] <humbraro> !3dwm
[08:23] <ubotu> humbraro: Syntax error in line 1
[08:24] <UncleD> brenner: solved my next few errors. packages.ubuntu.com is a major help so far.
[08:24] <crimsun> humbraro: preface with info
[08:24] <humbraro> ! info 3dwm
[08:24] <ubotu> humbraro: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:24] <humbraro> hehe
[08:24] <crimsun> no whitespace between ! and info
[08:25] <humbraro> !info 3dwm
[08:26] <matrex> hello
[08:26] <matrex> anyone here?
[08:26] <brenner> UncleD: glad i could help in some way
[08:26] <garry> nope, nobody is here.
[08:26] <matrex> danm
[08:26] <matrex> im installing ubunto tonite on my power mac g4
[08:26] <matrex> any advice?
[08:27] <garry> How many hard drives on that mac?
[08:27] <matrex> 1
[08:27] <matrex> yeah
[08:27] <matrex> how do you make the comp have 2 OS's
[08:27] <matrex> thats what i came in here for
[08:28] <dsaa> hello everybody?
[08:28] <matrex> is there an option
[08:28] <garry> Is the first partition NTFS?
[08:28] <evil-doer> he has a mac
[08:29] <evil-doer> oh, the other guy
[08:29] <{SDP}Esprite> it doesn't have any partitions :O
[08:29] <garry> Oh, doh, I'm so dense sometimes. Hehe.
[08:29] <Fanskapet> hmmm
[08:29] <{SDP}Esprite> the HD has no partitions and has been formated clean I guess <.<
[08:29] <matrex> wait. can someone help me real fast
[08:30] <{SDP}Esprite> someone gave it to me and I'm trying to do something with it on an older comp
[08:30] <{SDP}Esprite> ok I'll wait :P
[08:30] <matrex> i havent formatted clean
[08:30] <matrex> do i need to
[08:30] <garry> well when you said Ubuntu would be the primary OS, that implied that you had another. So Ubuntu is to be the only OS?
[08:30] <matrex> no
[08:30] <matrex> its the primary
[08:32] <{SDP}Esprite> hey xenex
[08:32] <xenex> hi
[08:32] <brenner> matrex: you might be able to use the same instructions here (Resizing Partitions Using the Ubuntu Installer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[08:32] <ara> is there a link for a binginner that i can review? for a very beginner i mean!!!
[08:33] <matrex> ya
[08:33] <matrex> im on mac though brenner
[08:34] <cafuego> The Mac does have partitions.
[08:34] <matrex> ya ot does
[08:34] <nalioth_zZz> matrex: you'll be fine. parted resizes hfs+ just fine (ignore the warnings)
[08:34] <matrex> cafuego are you a girl?
[08:35] <matrex> plz say no
[08:35] <cafuego> matrex: Why would that matter?
[08:35] <matrex> cuz i went out with a girl, whos SN was confuego
[08:35] <matrex> and thatd be fuckin scarry if you were her
[08:35] <nalioth_zZz> matrex: please respect us with your language choices
[08:35] <garry> You need partitions for your OS's, and the swap partition unless you choose to use a swap file. So, you will need at least 2 partitions.
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> Why is a fontPath stopping tightvncserver from running?!?
[08:36] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Coz you didn't tell it where to find its fonts. It assumes the location where the fonts USED to live, not where they live now.
[08:36] <matrex> ok
[08:36] <matrex> its detecting harddrive
[08:37] <matrex> am i on the right path?
[08:37] <cafuego> matrex: Yes.
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, But I tried telling it where the fonts are, and it didn't like that either.
[08:37] <matrex> thks
[08:37] <evil-doer> im getting a gateway laptop this week. anyone know if ubuntu would be a good choice to work with it?
[08:37] <cafuego> matrex: nalioth has successfully resized an HFS+ partition to make space for Ubuntu, he can talk you through.
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, It seems my fonts live at /usr/share/fonts/
[08:38] <duckdown> Hmm E17 has to be gotten from the CVS repository it says, but I haven't a clue how to use CVS..  How do I access the repository
[08:38] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Not /usr/share/X11/fonts ?
[08:38] <nalioth_zZz> duckdown: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment
[08:38] <duckdown> thanks
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Uh, there seem to be fonts there too.
[08:39] <ElitePete> evil-doer, would be a great choice!
[08:39] <cdubya> how do you setup the default DVD handler on KDE? I know how to do it on gnome, but can't seem to find it on kde.
[08:40] <{SDP}Esprite> <.< so uh anyone know what would be causing segmentation faults and a repedative "killed" message to come up in the middle of ubuntu install?"
[08:40] <matrex> um friend MB
[08:40] <matrex> maybe
[08:40] <cdubya> bad ram?
[08:41] <maskd> get an ubuntu cd and type memtest at the boot: prompt to check for ram probs
[08:41] <matrex> no that wouldnt be RAM
[08:41] <evil-doer> ElitePete, seems to be the most popular distro at the moment. theres no better choices for laptops or anything eh?
[08:42] <ElitePete> evil-doer, ubuntu is the best distro :-)
[08:42] <[1] Bill> I'm trying to install mysql-server-4.1 on breezy, but it says its impossible to install because mysql-common-4.1 and libdbi-perl are not installable.  Any ideas why?
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, It doesn't seem to like that either.  Could not open default font 'fixed'.
[08:44] <matrex> ok it just went to an orange screen is that right?
[08:44] <GhostXz> Hi, i decided to use Blackbox as my wm, but when ever i backspace too much in a termnial, my internal pc speaker beeps AND a sound plays from my speakers, is it posable to fix this?
[08:45] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/
[08:45] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: See /etc/X11/xorg.conf for other font dirs.
[08:45] <cafuego> Remote vmware-player
[08:45] <matrex> ok
[08:45] <matrex> it just booted off of cd
[08:46] <matrex> it didnt give me a chance to install or whatever
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, I think (key word there) I got it working by putting symlinks where it was looking.
[08:46] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Doesn't it have an editable /etc/vnc.conf?
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, There is that.  Does TightVNC use the generic one?  I was trying to do it in the script.
[08:48] <nadia007> where can I add repositories in ubuntu using terminal?
[08:48] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Check the first few lines of the wrapper, it should mention it.
[08:48] <cafuego> nadia007: $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, I got "New 'X' desktop is anthonyyarusso:1
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> "  Does that mean it worked?
[08:49] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: it ought to, yes
[08:49] <dsaa> Serial KB and Mouse couldn't be detected by ubuntu/edubuntu/kubuntu here in Celeron 533Mhz, 128MB computer that I handled. Anybody who has the solution for this? These are computers in one of the National High Schools here in the Philippines.
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Okay, now how do I connect to it?
[08:50] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: via a vnc viewer
[08:50] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: <viewerapp> <hostname>:<viewport>
[08:51] <nadia007> cafuego, perfect.. thanks
[08:51] <matrex> what the heck
[08:51] <matrex> it wont let me install
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Would I use the public IP as the hostname?
[08:51] <matrex> it just went striaght to a screen
[08:51] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: If you're connecting from outside, yes
[08:51] <cafuego> matrex: Don;'t use the LiveCD. use the InstallCD>
[08:51] <matrex> ok, where can i get that?
[08:51] <cafuego> matrex: www.ubuntu.com -> Download
[08:52] <evil-doer> is the 64 bit version not recommended?
[08:52] <matrex> thats proably a porn site cafuego
[08:52] <evil-doer> for newbs
[08:52] <cafuego> matrex: yes, it is.
[08:52] <Badm4n> anyone can help me to tell me / teach me about step by step HOWTO create our own rc.local @ ubuntu 5.10
[08:52] <cafuego> evil-doer: Well, that depends.
[08:53] <cafuego> evil-doer: Are you likely to want flash and java, as well as avi video support?
[08:53] <matrex> cafuego: seriously were can i get it
[08:53] <evil-doer> probably
[08:53] <cafuego> evil-doer: Then use the 32bit one.
[08:53] <garry> Sorry Badm4n, I have no idea what you are talking about.
[08:53] <evil-doer> my laptop will be turion 64
[08:53] <cafuego> evil-doer: Ubuntu64 isn't quite right for standard desktop use.
[08:53] <evil-doer> anything 64 doesnt seem to be
[08:54] <evil-doer> ms windows included
[08:54] <cafuego> evil-doer: Well, it runs fine, it's just those 3 applicatiosn that don't work. Mainly becuase they rely on closed-source 32bit stuff.
[08:54] <Badm4n> i mean how to create rc.local@ubuntu 5.10
[08:54] <cafuego> !rc.local
[08:54] <ubotu> cafuego: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:55] <cafuego> ubotu: yes
[08:55] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, cafuego?
[08:55] <cdubya> heh
[08:55] <Badm4n> ?
[08:55] <cafuego> !yes =~ s/thought/thunk/
[08:55] <ubotu> cafuego: OK
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Claims to be unable to open the display.
[08:55] <hume> i got too much space in my kde menus - anyone knows how to manage this? seems the menu icons are too large. can I set icon size somewhere in KDE, or set the dots per inch resolution for the whole desktop?
[08:55] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Does it have any kind of NAT in between?
[08:55] <Badm4n> !rc.local
[08:55] <ubotu> Badm4n: Syntax error in line 1
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, A what?
[08:56] <Badm4n> ?
[08:56] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: NAT modem/router/appliance
[08:56] <evil-doer> well im gonna go try this live cd on this system for now. ill probably be around this week to bug everyone tho
[08:56] <matrex> cafuego: how do i make it an install CD instead of a LiveCD
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, For test purposes I tried doing it from the same machine.
[08:56] <cafuego> matrex: You need to download the complete install cd.
[08:56] <cdubya> tony, NAT = network address translation
[08:57] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Oh, just use the hostname as seen at the prompt then
[08:57] <garry> the iso and then burn it to a cd.
[08:57] <matrex> cafuego: i think i got it
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Although in the future it might, so it would be good to know the workaround for that.
[08:57] <matrex> its gonna take 2 hours?
[08:57] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: "port forwarding"
[08:57] <matrex> geez
[08:58] <garry> Ye on Dialup Matrex? If not, two hours seems a lot, try bittorrent or another mirror.
[08:58] <cafuego> Ye!
[08:58] <matrex> ok
[08:58] <[1] Bill> Ok, different question: What does it mean when it says mysql-common-4.1 is not available but is refered to by another package?
[08:58] <cafuego> 2 hours seems fine for 700MB
[08:58] <humbraro> !bugs
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, So would tightvncconnect -display 1 anthonyyarusso
[08:58] <tonyyarusso>  seem right to you?
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> (Gives tightvncconnect: unable to open display "1"
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> )
[09:00] <brenner> [1] Bill: exactly what it says: it means you don't have the repo that contains the package enabled but other packages reference it
[09:00] <_boris_> [1] Bill,  I think it says that one package needs mysql-common-4.1 to be installed, but the mysql package is nowhere to be found
[09:00] <delltony> can someone please help. i some how messed up my ntldr in windows cause when i try to boot to windows with grub i get the dreaded ntldr error. I'm wanting to reinstall windows but afraid it will mess up my ubuntu partition. how do i go abot doing this so i can have both working in harmony again?
[09:01] <delltony> how do i reinstall grub if needed?
[09:01] <[1] Bill> Well, Yes but that doesn't make much sense, why would the client and server be in one repo and the common in a 100% different one, that isn't in a default install?
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> delltony, Take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:02] <brenner> [1] Bill: what are you trying to install?
[09:02] <[1] Bill> mysql-server 4.1
[09:03] <[1] Bill> however I can't install mysql-client 4.1 either
[09:04] <brenner> so when you try and install mysql-server-4.1 you get that error?
[09:04] <[1] Bill> right.
[09:05] <[1] Bill> libdbi-perl is also not installable
[09:05] <_boris_> [1] Bill, I think the bug is that you have some repo disabled
[09:05] <brenner> have you enabled the universe repo?
[09:05] <[1] Bill> I took the # off the two universe repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Any response to above?
[09:06] <[1] Bill> Ah, found it.  Had the universal one, but not the upgrade one
[09:07] <_boris_> [1] Bill, does it work now ?
[09:07] <[1] Bill> seems to
[09:07] <delltony> thanks tonyyarusso one thing i'm curious about is looking at the wiki my menu.lst looks fine, but see i resized my linux partition and resized my windows partition and then this is where the problem came in
[09:08] <delltony> so i'm wondering is it not pointing to the right place like hd0,0 or whatever  how would i check?
[09:08] <[1] Bill> Thanks though.
[09:08] <pilgrim> delltony, you need to check /etc/fstab
[09:08] <truetenacity> ello
[09:08] <garry> It would be /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 the numbers corresponding to your partition.
[09:08] <Badm4n> anyone can help me to tell me / teach me about step by step HOWTO create our own rc.local @ ubuntu 5.10
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> delltony, You can check your partitions with fdisk and in your fstab, you might want to try auto-redetecting for grub in case that works.
[09:09] <delltony> ok how do i do autoredetecting?
[09:09] <lig> I am a noob.  How do I get ssh access to a server (ubuntu on client not server)?  On windows I would use putty.   I did last night. Ubuntu was not detecting my monitor. I ended up writing the screen section and sync rates and resolutions by hand.
[09:11] <delltony> well can i join your club :p
[09:11] <lig> well I'll be damned :D
[09:11] <lig> thanks
[09:11] <pilgrim> yw
[09:11] <delltony> so tonyyarusso how do you do a auto-redetecting in grub?
[09:12] <garry> Usuallly, but that mapping stuff grub uses can be tricky, and confusing. I've seen it cross map things. That's why I prefer lilo.
[09:12] <garry> you should be able to do a man grub and get that info.
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> delltony, Assuming / and /boot are mounted, /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda
[09:13] <delltony> well i'm using the linux partition on the computer right now so they wold be mounted
[09:13] <delltony> do i need to boot this pc on a live cd and workk that way?
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> Not if you can still boot into Linux.  If you had already overwritten the MBR with a Windows install, then you would.
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> delltony, ^
[09:14] <delltony> ok
[09:14] <evil-doer> dont think i have sound tho
[09:14] <garry> Might be worth a try, I think YOu are going to have to google for a program that can restore your mbr, and then install grub to the linux partition if that can be done and use boot.ini to control your  booting choices.