[00:30] <zus> hello i have a few things ive been trying to get fixed that simply arent working right... first.. i keep getting an authorization dialog box asking for unser name ad password. wich is already filled in. then i hit save password and ok.... after some time it pops up again.!!! 2 days i've been trying to figure this out. also ...
[00:31] <zus> gpgp keys i saved my folder from my ubuntu when i decided to use kubuntu 2 days ago...when i do kdesudo kate /home/username/.gnupg/gpg.conf to  check  for a "line" there is nothing in there. im tryin to import my pgp key ring into kmail can some one please help
[00:48] <yofel> zus: this channel is for help on filing/triaging bugs on launchpad, please use #ubuntu for stable release support and #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[00:51] <zus> yofel,  thanks,
[03:56] <OkThen> So i'm on 10.04 and going on some websites makes me automatically log out
[03:56] <OkThen> What's up with that?
[03:58] <OkThen> Any clue?
[03:58] <greg-g> Do you have an example, OkThen ?
[03:59] <OkThen> Hold on
[04:01] <OkThen> Ok
[04:01] <greg-g> hah, sorry
[04:01] <OkThen> Happens when I go on http://gnome-look.org/
[04:01] <greg-g> what browser are you using, OkThen ?
[04:01] <OkThen> Also happened on sdb.drshnaps.com
[04:01] <OkThen> Firefox
[04:02] <greg-g> I'm using Firefox 3.6 and it doesn't do that fo rme
[04:02] <greg-g> what is that site, before I go to open it?
[04:02] <greg-g> the last one you provided a link to
[04:02] <OkThen> Which one
[04:02] <OkThen> Oh
[04:02] <OkThen> Like sprite pictures for games and stuff
[04:03] <greg-g> that one also loads fine and does not log me out
[04:03] <OkThen> Are you on 10.04?
[04:03] <greg-g> does this also happen in other browsers? What extensions do you have installed? Any new extensions lately?
[04:03] <greg-g> yes
[04:04] <OkThen> Only real thing I installed for firefox is Adblock
[04:04] <greg-g> interesting
[04:05] <sbeattie> Doh, sounds like X is crashing for OkThen...
[04:05] <OkThen> Woops
[04:07] <OkThen> Sorry was checking if it was a specific category in Gnome-Look or all of it
[04:07] <OkThen> It's all of it
[04:08] <greg-g> any ideas sbeattie ?
[04:08] <sbeattie> OkThen: you're getting logged out to the gdm login?
[04:09] <OkThen> Yea
[04:09] <sbeattie> Possibly X is crashing, if that's the case.
[04:09] <hggdh> try with a brand new ffox profile, just in case
[04:09] <hggdh> er
[04:10] <micahg> we have a few bugs on where firefox seems to cause X to crash, but no conclusions so far
[04:10] <hggdh> look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old -- see if there is a message, near the end, stating X received a SIGQUIT
[04:11] <hggdh> I have been having something like that, every so often, but I have been unable to trace it back to a specifc action or progamme
[04:12] <mccolgan> Good evening, I'm looking to join this bugsquad, and in the last step I'm supposed to be sending an email to the mail list.
[04:12] <greg-g> micahg: really, weird
[04:12] <mccolgan> I need to include my id and whether or not I read the guide.
[04:12] <mccolgan> Is there anything else I should include? what's the proper protocol? Should I put an introduction?
[04:12] <hggdh> mccolgan: I think I have just approved you...
[04:13] <hggdh> mcgolst-gmail?
[04:13] <mccolgan> yes
[04:13] <hggdh> welcome in, then :-)
[04:13] <mccolgan> Thank you!
[04:21] <dawnview> what does it mean to "join" the bug squad? how is that different from just reporting bugs?
[04:24] <micahg> dawnview: bugsquad helps to triage bugs
[04:28] <hggdh> but there is no real difference, it is more like you now officially belong to a group that does what you were doing before
[04:38] <dawnview> i see. i guess i don't currently triage bugs, so that's perhaps the main difference.
[04:54] <mccolgan> I'm checking out this bug and there's kinda two parts to it, one looks like a wishlist and the other part I have reproduced how should I handle this?
[05:09] <bbordwell> I have an upstream bug filed with GNOME and they are asking for a stacktrace, is this the same thing as a backtrace?
[05:13] <mccolgan> yes
[05:14] <bbordwell> mccolgan, Thank you.
[05:20] <hoctopus> the command     sudo init 1 is not switching x windows off to the command line. it locks up during the shut down process
[05:28] <bbordwell> mccolgan, how can you get a backtrace on a problem that is not a crash or a freeze?
[05:29] <bbordwell> I attached the process, recreated the bug, but then I can not do anything in gdb, so i tried exiting normaly bug then gdb told me there was no stack
[05:30] <mccolgan> bbordwell, I'm not sure to be honest, I'm kind of new to that, I simply knew the terminology was the same
[05:30] <bbordwell> mccolgan, okay thanks. this is my first attempt at getting a backtrace
[05:32] <bbordwell> ahh ctrl+c
[05:33] <mccolgan> bbordwell, thanks, good to know
[05:35] <mccolgan> bbordwell, according to the man page, gdb can be passed 'bt' to show a backtrace
[05:35] <mccolgan> or is that not what youre looking for
[05:38] <bbordwell> mccolgan, I accomplished a backtrace. after you attach a proccess gdb stops it so you can no longer do anything in that program. I typed continue so i could recreate the bug. You then press ctr+c to send gdb an interupt signal
[05:42] <mccolgan> bbordwell, ah okay thanks
[05:48] <hggdh> yes, this is how you get it. Just please be sure to have all symbols resolved
[05:49] <bbordwell> hggdh, I am not sure what you mean?
[05:50] <hggdh> if you see a lot of ??, then you are missing the debug symbols packages
[05:50] <hggdh> usually, the most important are the first few lines -- say, 10
[05:57] <bbordwell> hggdh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/403637/
[05:57] <bbordwell> would you mind telling me if i need to do anything or if that is alright?
[07:22] <hoctopus> In System-> Administration->Network Tools -> port scan   it runs continuously applied to a firewalled system leaving the person running the scan unaware of if all ports are scanned or of scan is still going on
[07:35] <hoctopus> In System -> Administration->System Testing    there is no cancel button when System Testing is first opened by mistake
[08:01] <giantpune> hello.  i have got a weird issue with ubuntu 9.10 AMD.  the system froze and i had to hold the power button to turt it off.  when i restart it,  i cannot get my usb serial device which usually shows up as /dev/ttyUSB0 to work
[08:04] <giantpune> the device works fine when i connect it to windows running in vmware.  but when i disconnect it from the vmware pc, it does not show up as ttyUSB0 in ubuntu
[08:16] <giantpune> ive found the device at /dev/bus/usb/004/010.  is there any way to force it to be /dev/ttyUSB0 like it was before the crash?
[10:44] <shrini1> team: we are doing a bugjam in kanchipuram, india now
[10:44] <shrini1> :-)
[10:44] <shrini1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/EasyTasks
[10:44] <thekorn> shrini1: very cool, have fun
[10:45] <shrini1> thekorn: thanks
[10:45] <shrini1> training on LP is going on now
[10:52] <bbordwell> what exactly is a bugjam?
[10:52] <thekorn> bbordwell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[10:53] <thekorn> see the FAQ on this page
[10:55] <bencrisford> shrini1: Nice!  Enjoy yourselves =)
[10:55] <shrini1> bencrisford: thanks a lot
[11:34] <bencrisford> is anyone around?  i need some help.. :S
[11:34] <bencrisford> with this bug in marble : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kdeedu/+bug/537944
[11:34] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 537944 in marble (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "douarnenez (France) is in a wrong place (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[11:34] <bencrisford> i have spoken to a marble dev
[11:35] <bencrisford> who has kde-bug-tracker'd it
[11:35] <bencrisford> i did an also affects for kdeedu
[11:35] <bencrisford> is there a way of linking the lp report to the kde one?
[11:35] <bencrisford> is it as simple as adding the url to the remote watch "bit" of the also affects?
[11:36] <nigelb> generally, we encourage kde bug reports to be reported directly to kde and not in LP
[11:36] <bencrisford> it isnt really a kde bug report
[11:36] <bencrisford> well obviously it is
[11:36] <bencrisford> but it affects edubuntu, which is why i think it should stay on launchpad
[11:37] <bencrisford> i found it through the edubugs, which are what i generally focus on
[11:37] <nigelb> do you know the kde bug number?
[11:37] <bencrisford> 232450 nigelb
[11:37] <nigelb> kde bug 232450
[11:37] <ubot4`> KDE bug 232450 in general "Douarnenez (France) [and possibly other places to] is in a wrong place" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232450
[11:37] <bencrisford> yes
[11:39] <nigelb> bencrisford, um, its a game?
[11:40] <bencrisford> no
[11:40] <bencrisford> an educational package
[11:40] <bencrisford> like google earth
[11:40] <nigelb> ah, ok.  would you like to submit a patch for it then?
[11:41] <bencrisford> patch would be difficult
[11:41] <bencrisford> well
[11:41] <bencrisford> not overly complex
[11:42] <bencrisford> but marble have a GSoC person working on new co-ordinates anyway
[11:42] <bencrisford> so it is assigned to him on kbugs
[11:42] <nigelb> ah, ok
[11:42] <nigelb> does kde have a git or svn for the code?
[11:43] <bencrisford> apt-get source works fine for the souce package if thats what you're after?
[11:43] <bencrisford> im asking about the svn for you though ;)
[11:44] <nigelb> apt-get does not tend to get me latest upstream code
[11:44] <bencrisford> aah
[11:44] <bencrisford> ah*
[11:45] <bencrisford> nigelb: if i click the down arrow on the also affects, and add the url of the kbug, will that link them?
[11:45] <nigelb> yes, I have already linked them for you :)
[11:45] <bencrisford> oh ok, ty
[11:45] <bencrisford> nigelb: there is an svn
[11:46] <nigelb> bencrisford, oh, great.  I'll to get a patch it.  that should fix it sooner
[11:46] <bencrisford> nigelb: l,
[11:46] <bencrisford> ok* dont know what happend there
[11:46] <nigelb> :D
[11:46] <bencrisford> in the source, if you go to /data/placemarks that seems to have all the information
[11:46] <bencrisford> there might be other stuff that needs changing though
[11:47] <nigelb> that would be the responsibility of the person to whom the task is assigned :D
[11:47] <bencrisford> yeah ;), but in case you were interested :P
[11:47] <nigelb> since you've mentioned it to me, I'll just try to get a patch to make his/her life easier
[11:48] <bencrisford> nigelb: :)
[11:48] <bencrisford> the problem seems to be that a negative sign was left off the co-ordinates
[11:48] <nigelb> I'll try to poke the kubuntu folks to get it into lucid
[11:48] <nigelb> oh, so you mean more negatives might have been left out?
[11:48] <bencrisford> for someone who knows the source its a five minute job
[11:48] <bencrisford> nigelb: is possible
[11:49] <nigelb> ouch ouch
[11:49] <bencrisford> which is why the guy im talking to on #marble assigned it to the fella doing the new co-ordinates
[11:49] <nigelb> ah
[11:49] <bencrisford> but i reckon it was just someone adding all the cities, getting tired and making a simple human error?
[11:49] <nigelb> indeed, probable
[11:49] <nigelb> but I thought it might be automaticized
[11:50] <bencrisford> hmm
[11:50] <nigelb> if it was, then we might have a bigger problem
[11:50] <bencrisford> well, its lucky the fella who reported it noticed
[11:50] <nigelb> yup
[11:50] <bencrisford> id say that if there was anymore errors, they'd be in western europe, else they would have probably been noticed
[11:51] <nigelb> I'll try to get him a patch for this one and leave the rest up to them :)
[11:51] <bencrisford> the french error was small because the city in question is so close to the prime meridian line
[11:51] <nigelb> in that case this might be a small human error
[11:51] <bencrisford> in most places the town would be miles and miles and miles out of where it should be
[11:52] <bencrisford> and i think people would notice if moscow suddenly turned up in washington
[11:52] <nigelb> yeah :D
[11:52] <bencrisford> if there was other errors, they have prolly been fixed
[11:54] <bencrisford> nigelb: its lucky it was noticed before lucid final release :/
[11:54] <nigelb> yes indeed
[11:55] <bencrisford> and its lucky i came across the bug
[11:55] <bencrisford> edubugs are normally sitting around for ages before anyone triages them
[11:55] <bencrisford> edubuntu bugs are really neglected
[11:55] <nigelb> seriously?
[11:57] <bencrisford> nigelb: they can be, obviously they are ubuntu bugs also, but nearly all the edubugs (http://tinyurl.com/EduBugs) are new and open
[11:58] <bencrisford> some have been there for months, or worse...
[11:58] <nigelb> bencrisford, the problem probably is that not everyone runs it to test them out
[11:58] <bencrisford> nigelb: yeah, but that cant be helped..  because there isnt that many people working on marketing either
[11:59] <bencrisford> well, it might be a bit better now, i only came back to ubuntu yesterday after a few months of absence
[11:59] <bencrisford> but when i was around before, we were starting to re-structure/kick-start edubuntu again
[11:59] <bencrisford> it is *alot* better now, but we really need more people
[12:00] <nigelb> wish I could help, my hands are too much tied with ubuntu per se
[12:01] <bencrisford> nigelb: i understand
[12:01] <bencrisford> its a busy time right now :D
[12:02] <nigelb> oh yes
[12:12] <BUGabundo> m0rning
[12:13] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: hey buddy :) its been a while
[12:14]  * bencrisford hopes BUGabundo remembers him...
[12:14] <BUGabundo> not really
[12:14] <BUGabundo> I have terrible memory
[12:14] <BUGabundo> sorry
[12:14] <BUGabundo> shrug
[12:14] <bencrisford> haha, its ok ;)
[12:15] <BUGabundo> feel free to remind me
[12:15] <BUGabundo> I'll get there eventually
[12:15] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: dont really know what to say :P
[12:15] <BUGabundo> ahah
[12:15] <BUGabundo> ok then
[12:15] <bencrisford> ive been around in the bug squad for a year or two..
[12:15] <bencrisford> we know each other from IRC
[12:15] <bencrisford> i think i have you on identi.ca but i cant say i ever go on it
[12:15] <BUGabundo> like just about everyone in here
[12:16] <BUGabundo> eheh
[12:16] <bencrisford> yeah :P
[12:16] <BUGabundo> µbloggingis fun
[12:16] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo o/
[12:16] <BUGabundo> key kklimonda
[12:16] <bencrisford> kklimonda: hi
[12:16] <kklimonda> good afternoon all the rest of you buggers!
[12:16] <BUGabundo> time to debug gwibber :\
[12:16] <nigelb> lol, thats an odde choice of term kklimonda :D
[12:17] <BUGabundo> error: (28, 'Operation timed out after 15000 milliseconds with 0 bytes received')
[12:17] <BUGabundo> Gwibber Dispatcher: ERROR    Failed to communicate with https://brainbird.net/api/statuses/friends_timeline.json?count=200
[12:17] <BUGabundo> Gwibber Dispatcher: ERROR    Failed to parse the response, error was: No JSON object could be decoded
[12:17] <BUGabundo> bah... its dead again
[12:17] <kklimonda> nigelb: ;)
[12:17] <kklimonda> nigelb: I'm going to blame the good weather for that
[12:18] <BUGabundo> nigelb: let me put it this way: kklimonda is hungry, and thinking of food
[12:18] <BUGabundo> err of hamburgers, I mean
[12:18] <nigelb> lol
[12:19] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: i do have you on identica ;)
[12:20] <yofel> any ideas how to debug shadow? (# passwd test -> passwd: System error \n passwd: password unchanged)
[12:20] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: which one of my caresmatica profiles?
[12:20] <yofel> morgen BUGabundo
[12:20] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: mr bean..?
[12:20] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: FYI you should (remote) sub to http://mi.BUGabundo.net
[12:20] <BUGabundo> well that is the old one :p
[12:21] <bencrisford> oh
[12:21] <bencrisford> well ive been absent from ubuntu for a few months
[12:21] <BUGabundo> yofel: Bom dia for you too.. can't help much with shadow. I remember someone having trouble with it last cycle
[12:21] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: what happened to you ?
[12:22] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: computer messed up, friend suggested installing arch..  i am very ashamed of myself...  but arch was crap compared to 'buntu, and i missed you all so much :P
[12:23] <bencrisford> so i came back :D
[12:23] <bencrisford> installed yesterday ;), beta 1
[12:23] <BUGabundo> yeah, one of the strongest reasons for us to keep using Ubuntu : Community
[12:23] <bencrisford> i just love contributing
[12:24] <bencrisford> ubuntu is the best distro for contrbuting, cos you see your work, and you know it makes a difference
[12:24] <bencrisford> and everyones so supportive and friendly ;)
[12:43] <kklimonda> is there a good documentation on writing bug patterns and pushing them to the main branch?
[12:46] <nigelb> there was one on the apport page
[12:46] <nigelb> lemme get it for you
[12:48] <nigelb> kklimonda, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo#Bug%20patterns
[12:49] <kklimonda> thanks
[12:49] <kklimonda> heh, this much I know :)
[12:50] <kklimonda> what I don't know is how to push them back - should I create my own branch and request a merge?
[12:51] <nigelb> you have commit access
[12:51] <nigelb> you can just checkout and do a commit
[12:55] <kklimonda> oh to hell with that - what can I break by just pushing one small change!
[12:56] <kklimonda> only those who don't do anything make no mistakes etc.
[12:56]  * kklimonda closes eyes and pushes big red button
[14:19] <WoAnerges> hi guys!
[14:19] <WoAnerges> have VAIO with "ATI mobility radeon HD 4570" and Intel Core2 DUO T6600 @ 2.2GHz.
[14:19] <WoAnerges> can't install ubuntu 10.04 normally. problems with video appearance.
[14:19] <WoAnerges> need help.
[14:19] <WoAnerges> i know - the image in attachment - it looks like video card owerheat, but it's not an owerheat of vc processor. i am sure about that, because i had a vc that was damaged by owerheating. this is not that case.
[14:19] <WoAnerges> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=151676&d=1269750326
[14:38] <bencrisford> WoAnerges: hi
[14:38] <WoAnerges> hi!
[14:39] <bencrisford> i appreciate that you need help, but im afraid this isn't a support channel
[14:39] <WoAnerges> :(
[14:39] <bencrisford> i would help you but im pretty busy atm :/
[14:39] <WoAnerges> i understand
[14:39] <bencrisford> try #ubuntu
[14:39] <WoAnerges> they don want me to help! ;(
[14:39] <WoAnerges> mommy
[14:39] <WoAnerges> #ubuntu send me to #ubuntu+1 channel
[14:40] <bencrisford> WoAnerges: hmm
[14:40] <WoAnerges> but there no one who could say something
[14:40] <bencrisford> have you posted on the forums?
[14:40] <WoAnerges> so i here and itś something like a last resort
[14:40] <WoAnerges> yes!
[14:40] <WoAnerges> not even a single reply
[14:40] <bencrisford> well, erm lets stop spamming the chanel, ill talk to you in private ;)
[14:40] <WoAnerges> and on ubuntu questions too
[15:15] <nigelb> bencrisford, patch ready for marble :) sorry I took too long :)
[15:18] <bencrisford> nigelb: not at all!  im impressed and grateful that you managed to find the time so quickly
[15:34] <chrisccoulson> BlackZ, we're not assigning desktop bugs to the desktop-bugs team any more ;)
[15:35] <nigelb> chrisccoulson, yeah?
[15:35] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it was talked about on IRC a few days ago
[15:35] <nigelb> oh great :)
[15:36] <chrisccoulson> there's not really any benefit of doing it, so we're not going to anymore
[15:36] <nigelb> I never assigned.  I always forgot
[15:40] <yofel> chrisccoulson: really? nice, one less thing to think about :)
[15:54] <lfaraone> If printing via a socket or hplip to a particular printer results in black lines where there is no content appearing on the page, that's a bug in CUPS, right?
[16:14] <poindexter> System ->Administration->Login Screen set to failsafe terminal seems to have no path back to GNOME. Tried startx and tried init 1 thru init 6 but after reboot still can get only failsafe terninal rather than desktop. Any help to recover would be appreciated too.
[16:23] <kklimonda> you can still change it from gdm, after you select the user and before you type your password (and this channel isn't right one for support questions)
[18:31] <varunthacker> i would like to be a part of the bug squad and in the process learn.the wiki entry on how to request a mentor says to sign the code of conduct.where do we sign it online.it says on this link. but where https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1
[18:33] <mrand> varunthacker: you sign it on your machine with gpg and then upload it, I believe.
[18:34] <yofel_> varunthacker: https://help.launchpad.net/Signing%20the%20Ubuntu%20Code%20of%20Conduct
[18:35] <varunthacker> yofel_, thanks a lot
[18:48] <Sioux-33> anyone here?
[18:48] <Damascene> yeah
[18:49] <Sioux-33> im trying to report bug in ubuntu 9.10 kernel <IP_ADDRESS>generic or pae or <IP_ADDRESS> pae no mousse cursor just <IP_ADDRESS>generic is working fine i tried from terminal ubuntu-bug but is asking for package and i dont know what i should put after ubuntu-bug?
[18:52] <yofel_> Sioux-33: use 'linux' as the package name for kernel bugs, and please make sure you're running one of the non-working kernels while you report the bug
[18:53] <Sioux-33> yup how do u want me to run <IP_ADDRESS> if there is no mousse cursor?
[18:53] <Sioux-33> :)
[18:53] <Sioux-33> i use <IP_ADDRESS> at the moment
[18:54] <Sioux-33> i got installed <IP_ADDRESS> generic and <IP_ADDRESS> pae and <IP_ADDRESS> pae and <IP_ADDRESS> and just in the last one mousse cursor is working
[18:54] <Sioux-33> i mean in <IP_ADDRESS> generic
[18:54] <nonix4b> Sioux-33: ctrl-alt-f1 for console is one way to do that... will also give you w3m as the browser to use.
[18:54] <yofel_> Sioux-33: boot into 21, go to a tty with ctrl+alt+f1, login and run 'apport-cli linux' and select to save the report
[18:55] <Sioux-33> ok i will manage it tnx
[18:55] <yofel_> copy the report somewhere safe, reboot into your working kernel and file the bug from there
[18:55] <yofel_> gone...
[18:55] <nonix4b> too late... hope he guesses that?
[18:57] <yofel_> does karmic purge /tmp on reboot?
[18:58] <acicula> unless that behaviour got changed recently, yes
[18:58] <acicula> think thats also in the lsb? spec, /tmp is purged on boot /var/tmp is not
[18:59] <yofel_> heh
[19:00] <yofel_> maybe we should choose a different default storage place for apport-cli reports...
[19:01]  * nonix4b looks at /var/tmp and notices that it actually contains a total of one subdir... kdecache-username. But yes, tmpfs is kinda volatile.
[19:06] <nikolajsheller1> I have just installed Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 beta 1 on a Mac Mini. Install went well, but subsequent boot fails. All I can see is a nice boot screen with 4 dots under the ubuntu logo. CTRL-SHIFT-F1 does not work, nor  CTRL-SHIFT-DELETE. Pressing the power button causes the machine to shut down (APCI probably). Not sure how to proceed with this. How can I get useful information about the cause of the boot hang?
[19:07] <yofel_> nikolajsheller1: lucid support is in #ubuntu+1 please, this channel is for bug filing/triaging help
[19:11] <nonix4> Any hints on debugging #537158 (firefox infinite loop)? Got it happening again, changed to console and wondering which kind of poking it with gdb would get useful information out...
[19:13] <micahg> nonix4: how about a full backtrace?
[19:14] <yofel_> bug 537158
[19:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 537158 in firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) "Firefox infinite loop, cursor changing between pointer and hand (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/537158
[19:14] <nonix4> micahg: has a link to 40+ of them
[19:15] <nonix4> have it SIGSTOP'd atm so could do further things with it as well
[19:17] <micahg> nonix4: does the xorg log say anything?
[19:18] <yofel_> hm, wasn't there a way to connect strace to a running process?
[19:20] <micahg> yofel_: yes
[19:21] <nonix4> micahg: not much there besides logs of input devices getting reattached on ctrl-alt-fX and some related config/dbus warnings. Today ff was running on :2 (backtraces 30-49), earlier on :0.
[19:21] <micahg> nonix4: yofel had a good idea, what does strace show?
[19:22] <nonix4> sure... full strace or ideas on what to limit it to?
 new bug if u want to look at it Bug #550396
[19:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 550396 in linux (Ubuntu) "ubuntu 9.10 kernel <IP_ADDRESS>generic and pae cursor bug (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550396
[19:23] <micahg> nonix4: try to attach as full and see what it's doing right when it jumps back and forth
[19:24] <Guest69053> hey, I found this weird bug and Im not sure how to report it. basically I was testing the translations and it game me the option to change the directory names(which is cool), however it does not update the shortcut to the desktop in the places menu, leaving a dead link you cant edit
[19:27] <nonix4b> ran strace with -ff and -o... one file is big, rest are tiny
[19:29] <mccolgan> Anybody else get the window to stretch when writing long messages in empathy on irc chats?
[19:30] <yofel_> mccolgan: sounds familiar I think....
[19:31] <mccolgan> I searched for bugs in empathy but I didn't find it, I figure someone must have reported it by now
[19:33] <nonix4> micahg: strace output at http://www.hut.fi/u/iheino/ff/ as well, that is for bit over one second (strace makes it flip cursor state slower)
[19:33] <yofel_> mccolgan: bug 433651?
[19:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 433651 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "no text wrap when typing in the message entry (affects: 10) (dups: 1)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/433651
[19:33] <mccolgan> yofell_: yup thats the one, thanks
[19:34] <mccolgan> yofel_: thanks
[19:38] <hggdh> can anyone open a terminal (in Gnome) and run 'gksu <whatever>' -- then give a bad passphrase
[19:38] <mccolgan> GNOME_SUDO_PASSSorry, try again.
[19:38] <mccolgan> sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts
[19:38] <mccolgan> I only entered it once
[19:40] <mccolgan> hggdh: It said that I had 3 attempts and exited even though I only had one attempt.
[19:42] <hggdh> good, you just confirmed a bug... now to get the attention of the desktop folks ;-)
[19:43] <hggdh> mccolgan: thank you
[19:43] <mccolgan> hggdh: Happy to help! :D
[19:45] <hggdh> for the record this is bug 540732
[19:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 540732 in gksu (Ubuntu) "Incorrect password does not give error (affects: 2) (dups: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540732
[19:48] <Damascene> is there any known bug that if you click on disk in folders view in netbook launcher nothing will happen?
[19:50] <acicula> yofel_: does it store apport-cli in /tmp/ ?
[19:53] <mccolgan> Damascene: what is netbook launcher?
[19:53] <yofel_> acicula: it does here, when I tried it I got /tmp/apport.bash.ucUepZ.apport (Lucid)
[19:54] <Damascene> it's the thing you see after you install netbook edition
[19:54] <Damascene> like a special desktop to ease the use of the pc
[19:55] <mccolgan> Ah, I had that on this netbook yesterday, but I didn't try that
[19:55] <Michiel2> hey, I found this weird bug and Im not sure how to report it. basically I was testing the translations and it game me the option to change the directory names(which is cool), however it does not update the shortcut to the desktop in the places menu, leaving a dead link you cant edit, any ideas?
[19:56] <acicula> yofel_: why would that be undesirable?
[19:56] <acicula> (i dont know) hence im asking
[19:57] <yofel_> acicula: well, I just thought that people might wonder why they lost the file after a reboot if /tmp gets purged, I'm not exactly against the current situation
[19:57] <Damascene> mccolgan, do you have lucid or karmic
[19:58] <mccolgan> Damascene: lucid. I had netbook edition on here then I decided to put desktop edition on here
[19:58] <Damascene> can you help confirming this problem?
[19:59] <mccolgan> Damascene: Sorry, I won't be able to as I installed desktop version over the netbook edition.
[19:59] <Damascene> you still can use it I think
[20:00] <Damascene> just logout and chose the netbook edition. that if you didn't delete it
[20:00] <mccolgan> But I did delete it
[20:01] <Damascene> np
[20:12] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: now I recall
[20:12] <BUGabundo> I sponserd you for membershio
[20:12] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: to bug control?
[21:22] <Damascene> I want to file a bug, what do you call this http://imagebin.org/90665
[21:22] <BUGabundo> Damascene: mind taking a screenshot in LANG=C
[21:22] <BUGabundo> I can't even begin to guess what that is
[21:23] <Damascene> it's a problem in the font or something
[21:24] <Damascene> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5486341/images/screen-shots/open-office.png normal not ubuntu
[21:24] <arand> Damascene: "font not displayed correctly on inacive window tabs" maybe?
[21:25] <arand> Damascene: Does the theme used have anything to do with it?
[21:25] <Damascene> it's only in openoffice
[21:25] <Damascene> sorry I didn't mention that
[21:25] <Damascene> and Lucid
[21:30] <mccolgan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/550074 Isn't this bug a duplicate of something mentioned earlier in this chat?
[21:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 550074 in sudo (Ubuntu) "GKsudo fails with incorrect password (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[21:30] <mccolgan> I can't find the bug that was mentioned earlier in this thread that I believe is the same as this one
[21:39] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/550481
[21:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 550481 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "font not displayed correctly on inacive window tabs in openoffice (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[21:42] <jibel> mccolgan, it's an old but still existing bug. I think bug 298217 is the same.
[21:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 298217 in gksu (Ubuntu) "Password dialog gives up with no indication after one failed attempt (affects: 4) (dups: 2)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298217
[21:43] <mccolgan> jibel: thank you, I'll mark it as duplicate
[21:44] <jibel> mccolgan, thanks
[21:50] <rlameiro> hello friends
[21:50] <rlameiro> I have a doub if I should file something as a bug or not
[21:50] <rlameiro> the problem is that it was solved only by rebooting, and to reproduce it i will need to make a fresh install
[21:51] <rlameiro> i can give the details and the process , but i can test it again...
[21:51] <mccolgan> riameiro: what seem(ed) to be the problem
[21:52] <rlameiro> i wanted to install a resticted driver for th broadcom wireless driver
[21:52] <rlameiro> but it just gave me this error
[21:52] <rlameiro>  SystemError: installArchives() failed
[21:52] <rlameiro> after that I went on to #ubuntu-dev
[21:53] <rlameiro> and i tried the text version and it gave me the same problem
[21:53] <rlameiro> problem is thatr the error didnt pointed to anything and there are no log file to know what was wrong, after a reboot it worked
[21:54] <rlameiro> this happend on a fresh install of ubuntustufio beta1
[21:54] <rlameiro> *ubuntustudio
[21:54] <rlameiro> so what can i make to file a bug that is understandable and helpfull?
[21:57] <mccolgan> I'd say if you can get as many details of the circumstance as possible (exactly what you were doing), what you were expecting, and as many details aboout the system as you can, that it should have to do
[21:59] <rlameiro> mccolgan, is there some tool to give a the details of  my system to attach to the bug?
[22:00] <micahg> rlameiro: ubuntu-bug
[22:00] <rlameiro> thanks micahg
[22:01] <mccolgan> micahg: Here's a bunch of info that might help you out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[22:23] <rlameiro> mccolgan,
[22:23] <rlameiro> !bug #550503
[22:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 550503 in jockey (Ubuntu) "at first boot, Jockey cant activate the broadcom driver (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550503
[22:23] <rlameiro> what do you think about it?
[22:23] <yofel_> isn't that long known? (you first need to refresh the package cache?)
[22:24] <rlameiro> i didn't knew about it
[22:24] <rlameiro> but firstcommers shouldnt know that they need to refresh the package cache..
[22:25] <mccolgan> rlameiro, whether it is known or not, you did pretty good describing and giving enough information
[22:25] <yofel_> valid bug indeed, but there should already exist one about that I think...
[22:25] <mccolgan> at least in my opinion
[22:25] <rlameiro> thanks mccolgan i think this is my first bug rport in the real sense :D
[22:26] <mccolgan> thumbs up keep at it
[22:26] <rlameiro> no, I filed one about bazaar soem time ago
[22:26] <rlameiro> well
[22:26] <yofel_> the description is good, no worries
[22:26] <rlameiro> will keep checking for bugs :D
[23:36] <markel> hola
[23:39] <Michalxo> hello!
[23:39] <Michalxo> how can I fill new bug?
[23:39] <Michalxo> I am unalbe to start liveCD 10.04 on my other laptop
[23:40] <Michalxo> I am not interested in trying alternate cd.. as I don't want to isntall it
[23:42] <mccolgan> ok, can you get more details about this bug? where does it fail? what kind of laptop do you have? does the cd work on a different computer? etc
[23:42] <Michalxo> thanks
[23:42] <Michalxo> so it's Amilo li1718 laptop
[23:43] <Michalxo> I am trying i386 image built yesterday 27.3.2010 image
[23:43] <Michalxo> when booting menu should appear (TRY/ INSTALL choices) whole screen becomes overwritten by lines and whole booting process stops
[23:44] <Michalxo> I think it can be something with acpi/apic (not sure which one), but with plymouth(?) I am unable to choose how to boot :-(
[23:44] <Michalxo> I think it's fault on radeon x200 (m) card
[23:46] <Michalxo> yeah, cd works on my laptop (this one) correctly
[23:46] <mccolgan> I see. Try to gather as many details as you can and go  ahead and put it in a bug report
[23:47] <Michalxo> and how can I report "blank" bug?
[23:47] <Michalxo> since LP was changed I report only by ubuntu-bug system...
[23:48] <Michalxo> btw, can I report this bug from that "corrupted" machine via 9.10..?
[23:49] <mccolgan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/ you can report it by going here and at the top right click 'report a bug'
[23:50] <Michalxo> ok, i'll make it tomorrow, thanks for info mccolgan ! gn guys!
[23:51] <mccolgan> No problem, good luck


[05:21] <cpaelzer> good morning
[06:23] <pitti> infinity: ugh, there was more? thanks!
[06:23] <pitti> good morning
[06:33] <juliank> pitti: I am in the process of building a process for future APT SRUs via a PPA (release -dput> PPA -copy-package-> archive), and was wondering what it takes to get autopkgtests running on the PPA (if that is possible). I'm not sure how useful that would be, but it certainly would not hurt...
[06:35] <RAOF> Urgh. It's really annoying to review SRUs from PPAs :(
[06:35] <pitti> that ^
[06:36] <pitti> juliank: we can run autopkgtests on PPAs and do it all the time
[06:36] <pitti> juliank: for the CI train in particular
[06:36] <pitti> juliank: the problem isn't running the tests, but presenting them -- you would need to set up a britney instance for the PPA to get something similar to https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/ticket-979/landing-065-xenial/excuses.html
[06:37] <pitti> juliank: by default the machinery just gives you the raw results like in https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial-pitti-ppa?format=plain
[06:37] <pitti> and have to trigger the tests manually
[06:38] <juliank> RAOF: The PPA basically acts as the APT 1.2 upstream repository once APT 1.3 hits unstable. Currently we basically sync from unstable to xenial, that then changes to 1.2 PPA->xenial
[06:38] <RAOF> juliank: It's perfectly sensible to do that, it's just that our tooling for reviewing sync-from SRUs is bad.
[06:38] <juliank> (Yes, we did not really sync so far due to some minor technical issues, but that's the plan)
[06:39] <pitti> juliank: but, I think we can make this easier -- i. e. I could envision a small CLI program which downloads all the results for a PPA and gives you a package | pass/fail | URL table
[06:39] <RAOF> And when I say “bad”, what I really mean is “nonexistent”.
[06:39] <pitti> RAOF: well, not *that* bad -- sru-review --no-diff
[06:39] <pitti> RAOF: and having to click two or three times to the PPA to get the diff from there
[06:39] <juliank> RAOF: Well, there will be nice detailed SRU bug reports...
[06:39] <RAOF> pitti: True, assuming LP has managed to generate a diff against the right version...
[06:40] <pitti> juliank: the trickier part is to create a CLI program which *triggers* the tests for all rdepends of your PPA -- this really should use britney
[06:40] <pitti> RAOF: heh, true that
[06:40] <pitti> I often see that with silos, they often have the wrong one
[06:40] <juliank> pitti: True.
[06:42] <juliank> The next APT SRU will be far too large again, as it's 3 versions in 1. (1.2.13, 1.2.14, 1.2.15), because of regressions in yakkety sort of preventing me from pushing the earlier ones.
[06:42] <juliank> Although I suppose I could SRU 1.2.14 first and then do the 1.2.15 afterwards
[06:43] <juliank> 1.2.15 is like 3 bug fixes; one of which is a buffer overflow, one is a null pointer dereferencing, and the other I have not looked at yet....
[06:44] <mitya57> slangasek, hi, looks like your python-imagesize universe -> main override didn't actually work…
[06:44] <mitya57> According to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-imagesize/0.7.1-1/+publishinghistory it got moved to universe again
[06:44] <mitya57> Can you please check that?
[06:44] <pitti> juliank: when we moved the CI train to autopkgtests, I actually made it reasonably easy to set up your own britney, and there's documentation about it now
[06:45] <pitti> juliank: so if you want to be the guinea pig, we could do a first manual run on your PPA, then improve the tools along :)
[06:47] <juliank> pitti: Well, the 1.2 PPA is empty right now, as I don't have 1.3 in unstable yet. But we can play with https://launchpad.net/~deity/+archive/ubuntu/sid in the meantime.
[06:47] <juliank> Which is our daily built PPA
[06:48] <juliank> I think I'm going to drop the actual 1.2 PPA and make it a "stable" PPA, then I can upload different versions for different release series sensibly.
[06:49] <juliank> On the other hand, maybe someone on an older release wants to try a newer apt.
[06:49] <juliank> Difficult choices...
[07:52] <infinity> juliank: I'd rather 1.2.15, than two rapid fire SRUs.
[07:54] <juliank> infinity: aye, aye
[10:12] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Still apparently no recent images in https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/ - do you know what's up there?
[10:16] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: I've been looking at it this morning, I think we've just had a string of poor luck with builders dying for no apparent reason; there's a build appearing now: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/20160705/
[10:16] <cjwatson> Ah, brilliant.
[10:41] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Hm.  No arm64-uefi1.img?
[10:43] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: Something shonky must have happened with the sync; it's there on the source.
[10:43] <Odd_Bloke> (And also the amd64-disk1.img should not be 84M :p)
[10:44] <Odd_Bloke> Oh, that's fixed now, so perhaps it'll show up in a minute or two.
[10:44] <pitti> well, it would be *nice* if it was 84MB :)
[10:50] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: It's now there. :)
[11:02] <caribou> xnox: I'm working on fixing LP: #1570775 which implies adding the crashkernel= mechanics into kdump-tools
[11:02] <caribou> xnox: want me to remove the equivalent code from s390-tools ?
[11:03] <caribou> xnox: i.e. the bits that add/modify crashkernel= in /etc/zipl.conf
[11:11] <hjd> Hi, could someone please retry apache-directory-server and proguard on Yakkety? They are marked as build failures, but I was able to build both successfully. Might have been resolved as time has passed. Thanks i advance :)
[11:12] <pitti> hjd: done
[12:21] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Current arm64 uefi1.img LGTM from the point of view of having initrd.img as a symlink etc.; do you have a way of conveniently test-booting a few arches?
[12:43] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: We do in yakkety, I'm looking at porting that back to xenial now.
[12:43] <techsayan> Hi, I am facing issues while apt-get update, how to get rid of these error? But somehow apt-get upgrade runs successfully. I am using ubuntu 15.04. Here is the log file -> http://pastebin.com/vxvCC64V
[12:44] <techsayan> I have tried this solution but no use -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/135932/apt-get-update-failure-to-fetch-cant-connect-to-any-sources
[12:45] <xnox> caribou, sure
[12:49] <jtaylor> techsayan: 15.04 is not supported anymore you should upgrade
[12:55] <dobey> techsayan: 15.04 is end of life
[13:01] <rbasak> techsayan: http://askubuntu.com/a/91821/7808, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[13:05] <techsayan> jtaylor: dobey: rbasak: So there is no way out for this?
[13:06] <jtaylor> yes, upgrade
[13:07] <cjwatson> techsayan: rbasak just gave you two links that explain a way out
[13:08] <rbasak> There's no point "updating" but staying on 15.04, since there are no more updates available.
[13:11] <dobey> techsayan: really you need to upgrade to 16.04, as even 15.10 will be end of life in a couple weeks
[13:28] <semiosis> Odd_Bloke: i tested the new xenial vagrant box from cloud-images today, but it doesnt include my changes.  how's that going?
[13:29] <pitti> cjwatson: just in case you happen to look at germanium, there's a loooong-running ddeb-retriever which re-downloads stuff since mid-April (to clean up after a few ddebs which had a HTML error contents)
[13:32] <cjwatson> pitti: Ah, thanks, glad you sorted that out
[13:33] <pitti> cjwatson: yesterday I collected the bits from the last month, and today for some longer history, just in case
[13:33] <Odd_Bloke> semiosis: It'll need to be SRU'd back in to xenial, so it needs to land in yakkety first.
[13:34] <Odd_Bloke> semiosis: But we have an unrelated yakkety build failure at the moment, so we're working on fixing that first.
[13:34] <semiosis> Odd_Bloke: ok.  thanks for the update
[14:35] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: We're seeing http://paste.ubuntu.com/18546366/ as the console log for the arm64 image.
[14:35] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: (Worth noting we've never booted one of these in ScalingStack before, so we might be doing something stupid unrelated to image issues :)
[14:35] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: I was going to say, may be worth trying the previous one as a control
[15:47] <Unit193> Okaaaay, new lsb-releases (9.20160110ubuntu0.1) dropped python2 support, as an SRU to xenial.  That doesn't seem cool, moreso since it broke backportpackage.
[16:03] <rbasak> Unit193: bug 1596638.
[16:03] <rbasak> I think slangasek said he'd try to take a look today, but if you can do it, please feel free.
[16:04] <Unit193> ...I have no idea how I missed that bug, but alright.  I'm not a core dev.
[16:05] <mdeslaur> infinity: meeting?
[16:06] <doko> mdeslaur, he's here at DebConf, probably already at the bar =)
[16:06] <mdeslaur> ah :)
[16:06] <mdeslaur> doko: thanks
[17:47] <slangasek> mitya57: the python-imagesize override worked fine, and then someone reverted it
[17:49] <slangasek> unfortunately there's no audit log of who does the component changes
[18:24] <mitya57> slangasek, ok, thanks for re-promoting. As soon as I get the list of failed autopkgtests for sphinx, I'll look at them.
[18:27] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Incidentally I'm partly also interested in ensuring that my change hasn't somehow broken other architectures, so non-arm64 tests would be good too.  I've asked IS to try the LP builder case with the new cloud images.
[18:42] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: Your arm64 console log is somehow magically powerpc?
[19:58] <slangasek> nacc: php-monolog has turned up on my radar as a TIL merge, the only remaining change is nocheck/stage1 build profiles; can you forward that to Debian please?
[19:58] <slangasek> nacc: (and dropping the delta in the meantime)
[19:58] <nacc> slangasek: ack, will do!
[20:20] <nacc> slangasek: sent
[20:36] <slangasek> cjwatson, infinity: either of you recall the status of build-arch standardization in Debian?  seems we have a package that builds ok in Debian but FTBFS in Launchpad (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ganglia/3.6.0-6.1ubuntu1/+build/10423092, Debian bug #821985)
[20:37] <slangasek> looks like "now mandatory" and perhaps the dpkg hacks have been phased out
[20:41] <cjwatson> slangasek: I bet this is a change in dpkg 1.18.8; the successful Debian build was with 1.18.7
[20:43] <cjwatson> slangasek: the changelog entry is confusingly written, but as I read the change (git commit ad94a98cf614e1c4129f8611080232d69d210a0a) it affects builds of any source package that has both Architecture: all and non-all binaries in debian/control
[22:25] <nacc> cyphermox: is sg3-utils stuck in -proposed because we also need to merge up partman-multipath and multipath-tools?
[22:50] <nacc> slangasek: weird issue i'm hitting with the php7.0 SRU. I just added -proposed in a container to see if I can reproduce LP: #1598489. But I get this rather confusing policy output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18587507/ and apt wants to remove fpm (and I wonder if that's what broke that setup)
[22:51] <nacc> bah, nevermind! configuration issue on my end!
[23:05] <slangasek> nacc: do you have -proposed enabled in your sources for main but not universe?
[23:14] <nacc> slangasek: yeah that was the problem :)


[00:04] <JontheEchidna> grr, my audio is unmuting whenever a flash applet wants to output sound :/
[00:21] <Riddell> awsomeness, amarok compiled
[00:34]  * apachelogger is so looking forward to qt modularization
[00:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did I mention that neon fails to build?
[00:46] <yofel> apachelogger: which neon, our neon?
[00:47] <yofel> which reminds me that I might as well disable the failing recipes..
[01:04] <Riddell> yofel: is neon going to be in a state to publicise it soon do you think?
[01:04] <yofel> Riddell: considering that launchpad is in no state to auto-build kdelibs kdebase and kdepim, I doubt that
[01:05] <yofel> bzr needs more memory to fetch the branches than the buildds actually have
[01:05] <maco> hahaha
[01:05] <maco> thats awesome
[01:06] <yofel> bug 676657 - the "FIX" is just great
[01:06] <maco> do the buildds have itty bitty ram, or is bzr that hungry?
[01:06] <yofel> maco: bzr needing >500MiB is actually not that unusual
[01:06] <maco> O_O
[01:07] <JontheEchidna> typical pythorn
[01:07] <kubotu_> trying to hack my pvr.....sort of , but typical linux probs with drivers and unstable videp capture apps
[01:07] <Riddell> hmm, kubotu_ is in line for a kicking again
[01:07] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1205017 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/FilterWidget.h Get rid of an unused KLineEdit pointer in the FilterWidget header
[01:07] <yofel> maco: try to check out https://code.launchpad.net/~maxb/kdebase/trunk for example, have fun
[01:08] <maco> yofel: no thanks itd take me a week
[01:08] <maco> maybe if i was on a connection that stall every time i so much as *think* about youtube...
[01:08] <kubotu_> no, i was doing the work
[01:09] <yofel> I'm just drawing up a wiki page that shows the status of every recipe, I'm loosing track of them..
[01:09] <JontheEchidna> kubotu_: which is the best distro?
[01:09] <kubotu_> no still on the disks, things don't go right/something probably crashes. i think it is the invasion of konsole zombies
[01:09] <jjesse> maco sounds like my hotel connection
[01:09] <JontheEchidna> haha
[01:09] <Riddell> right, that does it
[01:10] <kubotu_> Riddell: you hurt my feelings
[01:10] <maco> jjesse: 3g dongle....and for some reason at&t and t-mo dont use the same darned frequencies
[01:10] <Riddell> bah!
[01:10] <maco> Riddell: are you failing at banning?
[01:10] <kubotu_> Riddell: die!
[01:10] <maco> Riddell: oh wait i know
[01:10] <maco> use /quote remove
[01:10] <maco> insead of /kick
[01:10] <maco> scripts that auto-rejoin on /kick often fail if you /quote remove
[01:11] <maco> (really its not as bad as staling if i think of youtube..just.... takes an hour to buffer a youtube video)
[01:11] <yofel> kubotu_: be gone!
[01:11] <kubotu_> [muon] jmthomas * 1202840 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationDetailsView/ (ApplicationDetailsWidget.cpp ApplicationDetailsWidget.h) Layouting tweaks. It'd be cool to once I find the init script yet?
[01:12] <maco> why is kubotu doing CIAbot's job?
[01:12] <yofel> apachelogger: ...
[01:14] <Riddell> hmm, now I want to kick ubottu for msg'ing me each time I kick kubotu
[01:14] <maco> hhaha
[01:15] <JontheEchidna> maco: that's not a real commit message. the second commit message sentence is gibberish that its markov chain put together
[01:55] <tsimpson> Riddell: I can fix that for you (tell ubottu not to /msg you)
[02:16] <yofel> for everyone that's interested: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/RecipeStatus
[02:16]  * yofel is off to bed
[02:49] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck i'm changing some statuses on some bugs and also made some comments for you to follow up on RE: kubuntu-docs
[02:49] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: Okay.
[02:49] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: you can subscribe me to any as well...
[02:50] <jjesse> will do
[03:09] <valorie> DarkwingDuck: you never told me about the "little project" you had in mind?
[03:21] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck what project is this?
[03:21] <DarkwingDuck> Gimme a few.
[03:26] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck: looks like i cleaned up the currentl reported bugs
[03:28] <jjesse> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs
[03:32] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, My inbox jsut got flooded :P:P
[03:32] <DarkwingDuck> thanks jjesse
[03:32] <DarkwingDuck> I'm running ER sysadmin stuff right now... dropped server
[03:33] <DarkwingDuck> Well, rather, it was shut off when a process did mass scanning
[03:33] <valorie> that doesn't sound good.....
[03:33] <valorie> I'm not in a hurry; whenever you have some time
[04:20] <ScottK> Riddell: No need to add python-all-dev on kdeedu.  doko did his own work around https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/2.6.6-6ubuntu3 so retrying the kdeedu we have a bit later should work.
[05:25] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: From http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60411517/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.kdebase-workspace_4:4.5.85-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz I see:
[05:26] <ScottK> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:26] <ScottK>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libpolkit-qt-1-1_0.99.0-0ubuntu2_armel.deb
[05:26] <ScottK> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:26] <ScottK> apt-get failed.
[05:26] <ScottK> Help.
[05:40] <ScottK> Can't replicate it in a chroot.
[05:40]  * ScottK will just mash retry and see what happens.
[05:50] <ScottK> apachelogger and JontheEchidna: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/2157482886 - Might be useful to review the C++ bits and see how they relate to our style guide?
[08:28] <apachelogger> ScottK: about as different as it gets
[08:28] <apachelogger> from a quick look th eonly similarities are class naming and member vars
[09:01] <hrw> morning
[09:02] <hrw> anyone know how to disable ~/.xsession-errors in other way then "ln -sf /dev/null ~/.xsession-erros"? kde gave me 19GB file (on 60GB ssd)
[09:56] <ulysses> Riddell: I put the patch into debian/patches, added to debian/patches/series, run debuild -S, what's next? there's nothing useful for debdiff
[10:07] <allee> quick summary: upgrade 10.10 to 4.5.85: ssh-agent not started; plasma-panel bg dark, hardly readable http://imagebin.ca/view/Byi-zXV.html;  Application icons in panel don't work (in k-menu they work)
[10:17] <ulysses> allee: If you disable the Blur effect the panel background should be normal
[10:17]  * allee tries ...
[10:29] <allee> heh, not easy to find 'blur' in german.  No blur + no window transparency (otherwise black plasmoid text over black konsole bg is no good ;)
[10:29] <allee> ulysses: thx. So it's know upstream already. Good
[10:30] <allee> and thx
[10:30] <ulysses> I found it hard too, in translated
[10:31] <allee> ulysses: yeah.  Switching system setting lang to en does not help as the modules are still in desktop default (german here)
[10:32] <allee> mhmm, that a (upstream) bug too :(
[10:36] <markey> Riddell: apachelogger:
[10:36] <markey> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Possible-root-vulnerability-in-Exim-internet-mailer-1150631.html
[10:36] <markey> it might affect Ubuntu
[10:46] <Riddell> ulysses: you need to add a changelog entry with dch
[10:47] <Riddell> hrw: try running kdebugdialog and turning off everything
[10:48] <hrw> thx
[10:54] <ghostcube> hmmm anyone having probs with the maverick beta ppa?
[10:55] <markey> ghostcube: works great here
[10:55] <ghostcube> hmm, i couldnt get it upadted yesterday maybe its fixed now :)
[10:55] <ghostcube> thx markey will check later
[11:07] <allee> Bugfix: fix bashism in startkde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541830/   Diff contains string 'kubuntu' so I assume at least one hunk is kubuntu specific
[11:07] <allee> I'll create a launchpad bug ...
[11:15] <allee> ^^ bug #688518
[11:17] <Riddell> allee: hmm, does that need a SRU?
[11:18] <allee> Riddell: lemme check is a 'standard' maverick has == too ...
[11:19] <Riddell> I expect so
[11:19] <Riddell> apachelogger: how do I connect to ScottK's arm machine?
[11:19] <ulysses> Riddell: I added a changelog entry
[11:21] <Riddell> ulysses: then run debuild -S to make the source package
[11:21] <Riddell> then run debdiff against an untouched version of the old source package
[11:25] <apachelogger> eh
[11:25] <apachelogger> oh
[11:25] <apachelogger> ah
[11:25] <apachelogger> ok
[11:25]  * apachelogger goes crazy
[11:25] <apachelogger> es2 seems to work in qt
[11:25] <apachelogger> but not in plasma-mobile/qgraphicsview :O
[11:31] <apachelogger> ohm
[11:31] <apachelogger> actually it seems limited to plasma-mobile or qml
[11:31] <apachelogger> the hello_es2 example seems to use a graphicsscene and that works...
[11:37] <ulysses> Riddell: I have qt4-x11_4.7.1-0ubuntu5_source.build and qt4-x11_4.7.1-0ubuntu5_source.changes, but no -0ubuntu4_ to compare
[11:50] <allee> Riddell:  bug is already in maverick kdebase-runtime-bin 4%3a4.5.1-0ubuntu8.  So 1.==:  passing forcing netbook mode (test is in 'or' branch) as arg1 to startkde does not work.  I assume more a developer /debug feature.   2.==:  as soon as/usr/share/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/share/autostart/plasma-mobile.desktop exits, KDEDIRS is always set to use mobile defaults.  With the fix KDEDIR is only set if startkde is called with mobile as arg1.
[11:51] <allee> So IMHO only extended (devel) feature are not working.  Not worth a SRU on it's own.  Better wait until something important is found and let bashism fix slip in then
[11:52] <allee> But the mobile and netbook users/devs have a different POV what is important
[11:52]  * apachelogger does not follow
[11:52] <Riddell> ulysses: so download it :)
[11:53] <ulysses> Riddell: I uploaded the source.changes to PPA, it is built already:(
[12:01] <apachelogger> this opengl business is the suck
[12:04] <Riddell> ulysses: which PPA?
[12:05] <ulysses> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~ulysses/+archive/testing?field.series_filter=natty
[12:05] <Riddell> ulysses: lovely thanks
[12:06] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you get access sorted out?
[12:08] <Riddell> ScottK: yes thanks.  aren't you away?
[12:09] <ScottK> Riddell: I am.  Mostly.
[12:09] <Riddell> you just can't stay away from us :)
[12:10] <ScottK> BTW, I have the fix for amarok on arm.
[12:11] <Riddell> you do?  didn't I upload that?
[12:11] <ScottK> Did you?
[12:11] <ScottK> I thought you were doing koffice?
[12:12] <Riddell> I am
[12:12] <ScottK> You did.
[12:12] <Riddell> I uploaded the arm fix for amarok last night, but something else went wrong https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.3.90-0ubuntu2
[12:12] <ScottK> It failed for a different reason.  I just retried it.
[12:13] <ScottK> (kde4libs was uninstallable on arm when you uploaded)
[12:24] <Riddell> ulysses: qt uploaded, thanks for the patch
[12:26]  * apachelogger thinks plasma-mobile is at fault
[12:26] <apachelogger> <3 time waste
[12:27] <apachelogger> animatedtiles with qglwidget as viewport works
[12:27] <apachelogger> native qglwidget works
[12:27] <apachelogger> qmlviewer with qglwidget as viewport works
[12:27] <apachelogger> only plasma-mobile goes all smartass and fails
[12:27] <apachelogger> ...
[12:27] <apachelogger> go figure
[12:33] <apachelogger> maybe one needs to recompile it
[12:33]  * apachelogger would find that odd though
[12:37] <Riddell> allee: kdebase-workspace uploaded with bashism removed, thanks
[12:38] <ulysses> Riddell: yww
[13:00] <markey> apachelogger: file dialog in VLC still takes about 1 minute to open
[13:00] <markey> something is really borked there...
[13:01] <apachelogger> supposedly you shoudl talk to the KDE about it
[13:01] <Riddell> the kde file dialogue takes a long time to open in 4.6, something to do with the hal replacements
[13:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: fixed in beta2 for me
[13:02] <apachelogger> at least in native kde apps
[13:03] <Riddell> it still spins up the CD driver here
[13:03] <Riddell> not that the kde file dialogue has ever been fast though
[13:49] <skamster> hello all
[13:50] <Riddell> hi skamster
[13:50] <skamster> i like to do a fetch item (akonadi) with pykde.. but this always terminates my application.. :(
[13:51] <skamster> i don't know where the failure is.. tokoe from the akonadi-channel meaned, this could be a binding-problem
[13:51] <skamster> http://pastebin.com/2y4uZCTc
[13:59] <Riddell> skamster: you have a general Exception catch there which is generally a dangerous thing to do in python
[13:59] <Riddell> since it'll catch any error, including the ones you weren't expecting
[13:59] <Riddell> stripping down your code to the bits that matter
[13:59] <skamster> ah, sorry, i forgott to tell that.. there is no exception, no error-message, nothing
[13:59] <Riddell> I get http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/KpwKnXHN
[14:00] <skamster> that's just for testing
[14:00] <Riddell> which gives me
[14:00] <Riddell>     self.itemfetch.setFetchScope(akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchScope.fullPayload())
[14:00] <Riddell> TypeError: ItemFetchScope.fullPayload(): first argument of unbound method must have type 'ItemFetchScope'
[14:01] <skamster> Riddell: strange thing.. i just came till self.itemfetch = akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchJob(self.co.root())
[14:01] <skamster> there it does terminate
[14:02] <skamster> print "3" isn't executed on my pc
[14:03] <Riddell> skamster: the other obvious error I see if you're using a QApplication but then are using KDE classes
[14:03] <Riddell> that will cause breakage
[14:03] <Riddell> you need to use a KApplication
[14:04] <skamster> ah, ok :)
[14:05] <Riddell> you can use e.g. this as a template https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Python/PyKDE_WebKit_Tutorial/webkit4.py
[14:11] <\sh> apachelogger: I need your professional experience regarding Ruby ;)
[14:12] <\sh> ah forget it..I think I found the solution to my problem
[14:13] <skamster> Riddell: many thanks.. could i use the qmainwindow anyway? or have it to be a qwidget?
[14:13] <Riddell> skamster: qmainwindow is fine, using qt classes the a KApplications is fine.  using KDE classes with a Qt application is not
[14:14] <skamster> ok, thanks :)
[14:20] <skamster> mh, on the init-part of the gui came this message: QWidget: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice
[14:20] <skamster> :s
[14:27] <skamster> Riddell: do you know a way to create a simple qwidget in qtdesigner? or a tutorial? would be very usefull..
[14:36] <skamster> with qtdesigner and pyuic4 i always got this method: def setupUi(self, Form):
[14:36] <skamster> on this line, my programm crashed since i like to do it with kapplication..
[14:37] <skamster> i've never used the form-argument in my qt-app
[14:37] <skamster> got someone a idea what i could give as a argument?
[14:42] <AndIrc___> hello everybody
[14:47] <rbelem> hey guys
[14:48] <rbelem> my son is about to born
[14:50] <rbelem> Riddell, sabdfl, ScottK, apachelogger, ^^^
[14:50] <rbelem> \o/
[14:50] <allee> rbelem: congrats!
[14:50] <sabdfl> rbelem: congrats!
[14:51] <rbelem> i'm at hospital right now
[14:51] <rbelem> my wife is waiting for her doctor
[14:52] <rbelem> agateau, ^
[14:52] <rbelem> persia, ^
[14:52] <allee> rbelem: ah, so things start to get interesting :)
[14:53] <allee> My best wishes for the next hours
[14:53] <rbelem> allee, :D
[14:53] <allee> rbelem: 1st baby?
[14:53] <rbelem> yup :D
[14:53] <rbelem> thank you allee :D
[14:53] <allee> cool!
[14:54] <JontheEchidna> rbelem: gratz!
[14:55] <Riddell> rbelem: ooh!
[14:55]  * rbelem wants to hug everybody
[14:58]  * allee feels the hug and hugs back
[14:58] <Riddell> skamster: qtdesigner files act the same with a QApplication or a KApplication
[14:58] <Riddell> rbelem: can I suggest kubunto or kubunta for a name?
[14:59] <Riddell> actually that might not be good, ku means something rude in Portugese I seen to remember
[14:59] <rbelem> ehehhe
[15:00] <rbelem> Riddell, his name will be Daniel. My wife decided. i had no choice :)
[15:01] <rbelem> my battery is too low
[15:01] <rbelem> i need a power source
[15:02] <rbelem> oh! the doctor just arrived :D
[15:02] <rbelem> \o/
[15:02] <Riddell> what news what news?!
[15:03] <rbelem> :D
[15:03] <Riddell> what news what news?!
[15:05] <skamster> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/887TDbDt
[15:05] <skamster> i try it this way..
[15:05] <skamster> AttributeError: 'standalone' object has no attribute 'setObjectName'
[15:08] <Riddell> skamster: standalone needs to be a QWidget
[15:08] <Riddell> try replacing object with QWidget
[15:12] <skamster> RuntimeError: underlying C/C++ object has been deleted
[15:12] <skamster> this came on form.setobjectname()
[15:15] <rbelem> the surgery is starting
[15:19] <Riddell> rbelem: shouldn't you be holding her hand or something?
[15:19] <Riddell> skamster: trying setting standalone to be a KMainWindow
[15:21] <skamster> i've got the same message :s
[15:25] <skamster> ah, now i've got it..
[15:25] <skamster> many thanks :)
[15:25] <skamster> KMainWindow.__init__(self, parent)
[15:26] <skamster> this line was missing
[15:34] <Riddell> skamster: ah hah
[15:35] <skamster> ..and now also the akonadi-exceptions appeared :D
[15:40] <Riddell> skamster: if it's the same error "TypeError: ItemFetchScope.fullPayload(): first argument of unbound method must have type 'ItemFetchScope'
[15:40] <Riddell> then you need to add the necessary argument to fullPayload()
[15:44] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1205252 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (7 files in 5 dirs) Move sleep suppression and canExit handling fully into MuonMainWindow for less code duplication between MuonMainWindow derivatives
[15:49] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1205254 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 3 dirs) ... and since we reimplement MuonMainWindow::workerEvent(), we'll need to call it in our reimplementations if we want suspend suppression
[15:52] <skamster> Riddell: the akonadi-part works for now, except the signal
[15:52] <skamster> self.connect(self.itemfetch, SIGNAL("result()"), self.itemFetched)
[15:52] <skamster> if i make a SIGNAL("result(result)"
[15:53] <skamster> then i became that: TypeError: type 'result' is not supported as a slot argument type
[15:53] <skamster> else, the method is never used..
[15:54] <Riddell> skamster: where are the API docs for itemfetch's class?
[15:55] <skamster> http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.ItemFetchJob.html#itemsReceived
[15:55] <skamster> i tried both signals..
[15:55] <skamster> itemsReceived and result.. result is to find in the exampe
[15:55] <skamster> *example
[15:56] <skamster> the result is the same on both signals
[15:57] <Riddell> so try   SIGNAL("itemsReceived([Akonadi.Item])")
[15:57] <skamster> TypeError: type '[Akonadi.Item]' is not supported as a slot argument type
[15:58] <Riddell> try  SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List &items)")
[15:59] <skamster> TypeError: type 'Akonadi::Item::List&items' is not supported as a slot argument type
[15:59] <tsimpson> you dont use variable names, only types
[15:59] <skamster> mh, but isn't the slot the third argument anyway?
[16:00] <tsimpson> just take out the "items" part
[16:00] <Riddell> tsimpson:   SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List)")  ?
[16:01] <skamster>         self.connect(self.itemfetch,  SIGNAL("itemsReceived(Akonadi::Item::List)"), self.itemFetched)
[16:01] <skamster> this "works"
[16:01] <tsimpson> SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List&)")
[16:01] <skamster> the method isn't used, but it don't crash..
[16:01] <tsimpson> the const and & get stripped by Qt internally anyway
[16:07] <skamster> tsimpson: thanks :) this part work's now.. i just receive nothing.. :(
[16:11] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1205259 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[16:11] <CIA-24> Add the option of whether or not to pass the --dont-reload flag to
[16:11] <CIA-24> software-properties-kde so that muon-installer can choose not to, since it
[16:11] <skamster> self.itemfetch = akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchJob(akonadi.Akonadi.Collection().root())
[16:11] <skamster> self.itemfetch.fetchScope().fetchFullPayload()
[16:11] <skamster> self.itemfetch.doStart()
[16:11] <skamster> this and the connector is the akonadi-code..
[16:12] <skamster> if someone know what's wrong with that, i like to know it :)
[16:12] <skamster> i've try to do it like in the example
[16:14] <tsimpson> all I can see that's different is that you're instantiating an Akonadi.Collection and calling root(), but root() is static
[16:14] <tsimpson> that shouldn't effect anything though
[16:17] <skamster> mmh, but i do also a fetchfullpayload and a doStart.. this is the example.. http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.ItemFetchJob.html
[16:17] <skamster> what should i do to get it work?
[16:17] <skamster> root() is ok in a first step to get all items
[16:18] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1205261 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Qt strips "const &" from signal/slot connections, so don't put them there in the first place for a very minor optimization
[16:26] <ulysses> Riddell: I just upgraded, the patch solved the problem
[16:26] <Riddell> ulysses: awooga
[16:27] <ulysses> qt 4.7.2 will contain the fix so we don't need the patch than
[16:40] <tsimpson> skamster: when I run it, the job has an error (so obviously itemsReceived is never emitted), try connecting to SIGNAL("result(KJob*)") and check for error
[16:41] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: Dragon Player wants to install some video codecs, but QApt Batch is waiting for authorization for a while, but nothing happens
[16:42] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: could be related to the polkit updates. there has been some breakage. I was right about to step away for lunch, though
[16:42] <JontheEchidna> bbiab
[16:53] <skamster> mh, with that i don't became a error but a empty array..
[16:55] <tsimpson> then I guess there is no data...
[16:56] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Any ideas on http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60430957/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.kdebase-workspace_4:4.5.85-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz - It's failed for three retries now.
[16:58] <ScottK> I'm going to try installing all the build deps now and see if there's some conflict that's not in the buildlog
[17:00] <tsimpson> both libpolkit-qt-1-0 and libpolkit-qt-1-1 are being installed
[17:01] <tsimpson> that seems to be the problem there
[17:03] <ScottK> Ah.
[17:03] <ScottK> Thanks.
[17:04] <ScottK> So something needs a rebuild.  I should be able to sort that.
[17:06] <skamster> self.connect(self.collectfetch,  SIGNAL("collectionsReceived(Akonadi.Collection.List&)"), self.collectionFetched)
[17:06] <skamster> http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.CollectionFetchJob.html
[17:07] <skamster> tsimpson: do you see a problem there? it's the same message like before.. (Akonadi.Collection.List& seems to be wrong)
[17:07] <tsimpson> you need to use C++/Qt type names, rather than python ones
[17:08] <tsimpson> ie: Akonadi::Collection::List
[17:09] <skamster> yes, i saw it right now :)
[17:09] <skamster> thanks and sorry.. i think i know now how to handle..
[17:11] <ScottK> vim being installable on armel is a huge help.
[17:13] <billstei> Anyone using KDevelop 4.1.x via the Kubuntu Backports and Kubuntu Beta Backports ppa's ?
[17:14] <ulysses> why the hell I have Synaptic and not KPackageKit? o.O
[17:26] <billstei> Riddell: FWIW - Kate 4.5.85 is not compatible with KDevelop 4.1.1 (which refuses to run), but I just tested KDevelop 4.1.60 which runs okay.
[17:27] <ScottK> We need newer kdevplatform and kdevelop
[17:28] <skamster> ehm, could someone tell me, how i came from a collection to its content?
[17:28] <skamster> as i understand, collections are like folders, right?
[17:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ScottK so this is a snapshot of my book, read what it says just before the image : http://imagebin.ca/view/Z9Czi1c.html : :P
[17:30] <tsimpson> skamster: looks like it can be a directory, or a server. so I guess you should inspect the url()
[17:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you too ^^
[17:31] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It's not completely wrong at least.
[17:31] <skamster> ah, ehm, no, i've got a collection with the right content (as .name() said)
[17:31] <skamster> i just need to access the items
[17:31] <shadeslayer> well .... it says that the developer is Linux Treads ... how is not wrong? :P
[17:32] <shadeslayer> completely wrong i mean
[17:32] <ScottK> He was a student when he started it.
[17:32] <shadeslayer> oh .. your referring to the part where it says Unix Like?
[17:32] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[17:32] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: 0ubuntu3 should fix that
[17:32] <shadeslayer> still got the name wrong
[17:32] <ScottK> And it can be reasonably described as Unix alike....
[17:32] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Thanks.
[17:33] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[17:33] <shadeslayer> anyways .. back to studying .... :(
[17:33] <tsimpson> skamster: why can't you do that from the URL? (if it's a file:// url)
[17:35] <skamster> mmh, is this a clean way? of course i could parse again the file, but aren't there objects for that in akonadi?
[17:35] <tsimpson> I can't see anything in Collection that would provide any "real" access
[17:36] <CIA-24> [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* debian/changelog Rebuild for new polkit-qt-1 ABI break
[17:48] <ScottK> agateau: re default sizes blog post, it might be nice to have one talking about netbooks and don't assume too much screen real estate is available (recalling your kopete fix).
[18:03] <skamster> ehm, is it possible to use KABC::Addressee in pykde?
[18:03] <skamster> i searched in google but found nothing except c++- and pykde3-examples
[18:19] <apachelogger> Riddell: you did not run the hooks I suppose?
[18:19] <apachelogger> arm box is at load 5.90
[18:20] <ScottK> It seems to sustain throughput pretty well up to ~4.
[18:21] <apachelogger> yeah, that is me :P
[18:22]  * apachelogger applies magic everywhere he goes
[18:22] <apachelogger> making things more responsive
[18:23] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: silly
[18:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: I noticed it wasn't the Make manual he was spending his time with either.
[18:27] <apachelogger> ScottK: one would imagine that he had better things to do than giggle about crappy books
[18:27] <apachelogger> apparently not...
[18:27]  * apachelogger kills the arm box
[18:28]  * apachelogger blames that all on Riddell
[18:28]  * ScottK is starting to suspect he's actively working to remain at minion level indefinitely.
[18:29] <ScottK> It might just be the folly of youth though.
[18:42] <ScottK> nixternal: Can haz powerpc?
[18:45] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:46] <_Groo_> could anyone test kstars in 4.6 beta 2?
[18:46] <_Groo_> with my current nvidia, the window is borked, it doesnt render correctly
[18:48] <yofel> confirmed, I get garbage
[18:49] <_Groo_> yofel: :P k im not crazy then :D
[18:49] <yofel> _Groo_: http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/kstars.png
[18:49] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah almost exactly
[18:49] <_Groo_> yofel: i cleaned the configs, etc, its not local.. its rendering problem
[18:49] <yofel> nope, I never used it before
[18:54] <ScottK> _Groo_ and yofel: Do you have compositing enabled?
[18:54] <yofel> yes
[18:54] <ScottK> How does it look without composting?
[18:54] <ScottK> Meh.
[18:54] <ScottK> Spelling is so hard.
[18:54] <yofel> differently... borked
[18:56] <ScottK> Then I'd file a bug on kdeedu at b.k.o with screen shots of both.
[19:27] <_Groo_> could anyone confirm that phonon xine is broken in beta2?
[19:29] <_Groo_> im upgrading to latest ubuntu audio team pulseaudio build so i can see if vlc phonon stops crashing with latest stable pulse
[19:29] <_Groo_> for now, only gstreamer works.. yack...
[19:34] <_Groo_> yofel: ping
[19:35] <apachelogger> Tm_T: did kopete ever consider using libpurple?
[19:35] <yofel> _Groo_: how do I check?
[19:35] <apachelogger> _Groo_: we do not care about xine
[19:35] <apachelogger> gstreamer is default
[19:35] <apachelogger> gstreamer must be obeyed
[19:35] <apachelogger> that is until someone cares to package the new phonon vlc
[19:35] <apachelogger> for which I have been asking since its release
[19:35] <apachelogger> yet there is no package
[19:36] <_Groo_> yofel: you install phonon-xine and switch to it.. i made it work.. but he is behaving strangely
[19:36] <apachelogger> <--- one unhappy upstream riight there
[19:36] <apachelogger> _Groo_: phonon xine is unmaintained
[19:36] <apachelogger> and will be retired upstream soonish
[19:36] <_Groo_> apachelogger: there isnt? for natty you mena?
[19:36] <yofel> hm, I have xine as preferred backend here, but using pulseaudio
[19:36] <_Groo_> apachelogger: well vlc is STILL crashing on exit :P so i cant use it ¬¬
[19:36] <apachelogger> yeah
[19:36] <apachelogger> fix it
[19:36] <apachelogger> told ya
[19:36] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah me too xine + pulseaudio
[19:37]  * yofel switches to gstreamer
[19:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i got the latest code from pulseaudio! with the patches you mentioned! stil crashes!!!
[19:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: tolda ya :D
[19:37] <apachelogger> told ya to talk to coling
[19:37]  * apachelogger does not give a rats ass about how pulse is incapable to do proper threading
[19:38] <_Groo_> apachelogger: couldnt find coling :P
[19:38] <_Groo_> apachelogger: and you are part of the team!
[19:38] <_Groo_> and btw
[19:38] <_Groo_> isnt pulse the default for natty? in kubuntu?
[19:38] <yofel> it is
[19:38] <apachelogger> part of what team?
[19:39] <_Groo_> and vlc isnt going to be the default phonon in kubuntu in natty?
[19:39] <yofel> _Groo_: default for maverick too actually
[19:39] <apachelogger> no
[19:39] <apachelogger> never
[19:39] <apachelogger> ever
[19:39] <_Groo_> apachelogger: phonon-vlc
[19:39] <apachelogger> not gonna happen
[19:39] <apachelogger> _Groo_: so?
[19:39] <apachelogger> the bug is not in vlc
[19:39] <apachelogger> not in phonon-vlc
[19:39] <apachelogger> not in phonon
[19:39] <apachelogger> == I am not part of the  team that creates crap software
[19:39] <_Groo_> apachelogger: who do you think they gonna believe easier? me or you?
[19:40] <_Groo_> apachelogger: its like the damn digikam guy, digikam is still crashing in beta 2, i added the dump to the bug, and he just ignores me and says its fixed.. but hes saying its fixed since 4.6 alpha!
[19:40] <apachelogger> well
[19:41] <apachelogger> should I believe you then?
[19:41] <apachelogger> I mean
[19:41] <apachelogger> coling says the patches I pointed you at fixed the issue
[19:41] <apachelogger> yet you say they dont
[19:41] <apachelogger> ...
[19:41] <apachelogger> whom do I believe :P
[19:41] <apachelogger> a not official minion or a pulsehaxx0r :P
[19:41] <_Groo_> apachelogger: exactly
[19:41] <apachelogger> ../../../include/QtOpenGL/../../src/opengl/qgl.h:69: fatal error: GLES2/gl2.h: No such file or
[19:41] <apachelogger> so
[19:41] <apachelogger> should I ever meet someone from TI
[19:42] <apachelogger> I will probably have to punch him real hard for doing proprietary drivers
[19:42] <apachelogger> like
[19:42] <apachelogger> srsly
[19:42] <_Groo_> ehehehe
[20:00] <Quintasan> \o
[20:05] <apachelogger> oh this is so full of shit
[20:16] <Tm_T> apachelogger: libpurple? yes, at the time all agreed we didn't want to rewrite our protocol stuff, if my failing memory serves right
[20:16] <ulysses> nice, Dragon Player give me a crash window after I close it
[20:18] <_Groo_> ulysses: using vlc backend?
[20:18] <_Groo_> ulysses: with pulse audio?
[20:20] <ulysses> _Groo_: nope, with phonon-backend-xine, and without pulseaudio I think (I upgraded Lucid -> Maverick ->Natty)
[20:21] <_Groo_> ulysses: could you try vlc with pulse in natty? and see if it crashes too?
[20:24] <ulysses> _Groo_: with phonon-backend-vlc Dragon player don't even show the video itself, only its sound
[20:25] <_Groo_> ulysses: yeah it used to with same code in 4.5... dont know whats broken
[20:25] <_Groo_> ulysses: does it crash on exit?
[20:25] <ulysses> _Groo_: yes:(
[20:25] <_Groo_> can you paste the pulseaudio version in antty you are using?
[20:26] <_Groo_> 0.9.2 final?
[20:26] <ulysses> 0.9.22-0ubuntu3
[20:27] <_Groo_> same as mine
[20:27] <_Groo_> bug apachelogger ;)
[20:28] <_Groo_> ulysses: btw can you do me a favor? do you have digikam installed?
[20:31] <ulysses> _Groo_: not yet
[20:32] <_Groo_> ulysses: after you install it, see if it crashes when you go to menu -> settings
[20:32] <ulysses> _Groo_: I'll do
[20:33] <_Groo_> ulysses: if it does, open a bug in bugs.kde.org, digikam ppl dont believe me :P
[20:33] <ulysses> )
[20:33] <ulysses> :)
[20:33]  * _Groo_ thinks neither apachelogger
[20:34] <_Groo_> [17:41] <apachelogger> whom do I believe :P [17:41] <apachelogger> a not official minion or a pulsehaxx0r :P
[20:35]  * _Groo_ is so unapreciated :P
[20:35] <ulysses> evillogger
[20:36] <apachelogger> ...
[20:36] <apachelogger> whats the backtrace
[20:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: of digikam?
[20:37] <apachelogger> yes
[20:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: let me get the bug
[20:37] <_Groo_> bug 254283
[20:37] <_Groo_> huu not launch
[20:37] <_Groo_> kde
[20:37] <ulysses> _Groo_: it doesn't crash for me
[20:37] <_Groo_> stupid bot
[20:37] <_Groo_> ulysses: 32 or 64 bits?
[20:37] <ulysses> _Groo_: 32 bit
[20:38] <_Groo_> ulysses: its a 64 bits but aparently
[20:38] <_Groo_> bug*
[20:38] <_Groo_> kde bug 254283
[20:38] <_Groo_> better :D
[20:38] <_Groo_> apachelogger: last entries, from me, have updated traces for 4.5 and 4.6
[20:40] <apachelogger> what is your kipi version?
[20:41] <apachelogger> erhm
[20:41] <apachelogger> libkipi
[20:41] <apachelogger> also are kipi-plugins installed?
[20:42] <_Groo_> apachelogger: libkipi8                                                             4:4.5.85-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 and yes
[20:43] <_Groo_> apachelogger: huuu wait, kipi-plugins is still linked to libkipi7
[20:43] <_Groo_> gonna rebuild with 8 and see what happens
[20:50] <_Groo_> building
[21:06] <apachelogger> great
[21:06] <apachelogger> now it is filling up the memory
[21:06]  * apachelogger kills Riddell's build
[21:06] <apachelogger> if I got in
[21:12] <_Groo_> apachelogger: with recompiled digikam + kipi it worked :)
[21:12] <_Groo_> finally :D
[21:12] <apachelogger> we all know what to do then...
[21:13]  * Tm_T hides
[21:13] <allee-k> _Groo_: sound like a binary incompatible change in 4.6, doesn't it?
[21:14] <CIA-24> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1205319 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.h API documentation updates, including making note of which functions are asynchronous and have signals to report events/data.
[21:17] <_Groo_> going home, seeya guys later
[21:30] <apachelogger> allee-k: apparenlty it did not
[21:30] <apachelogger> allee-k: well, actually it really does not ;)
[21:31] <apachelogger> it just happens that one version of the lib is fixed and the old one is not and we currently use the old one ^^
[21:40] <Messanger>  world leaders setting you all up right now to get microchipped by RFID microchips with identity/healthcare/credit information into their new world order why they are folding the economy , their solution to the problem they are causing is the RFID microchip  http://www.scribd.com/doc/44997148/The-Mark-of-the-Beast    Romans 10:13 all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
[21:43] <allee-k> apachelogger: ah, so double-broken bin compat to be  binary compatible again.  Good :)
[21:44] <apachelogger> I do not follow
[21:45] <apachelogger> kipi7 & kipi8 are not abi compatbile
[21:45] <apachelogger> thus the difference in version?
[21:47] <apachelogger> jussi: we has gotten the spam it seems
[21:55] <yofel> apachelogger: btw, about my icecc issue before: it seems that to icecc it seems that a running boinc client is a valid reason NOT to use a system (even if it's niced) - so my fault
[22:01] <allee-k> apachelogger: ups. then you're right of course.
[22:39] <valorie> any news from rbelem?
[22:52] <nixternal> ScottK: firing the ppc up, did you shut it down?
[22:54] <nixternal> ScottK: it is fired up for you
[22:55]  * nixternal heads out for the evening
[23:44] <apachelogger> guess what
[23:45] <apachelogger> I am in a fun mood
[23:45] <apachelogger> again
[23:45] <apachelogger> nixternal, ScottK: you surely could do some mad WoL thing
[23:50] <valorie> it's friday night, apachelogger!
[23:50] <valorie> time for fun!
[23:55] <apachelogger> yus yus
[23:55] <apachelogger> also I have a bit of a PITA from the opengles stuff on the n900