[13:57] <airtonix_> ikonia: couldn't the function change the $PATH?
[13:57] <ikonia> airtonix_: what function ?
[13:57] <opti> I cant seem to blacklist it either
[13:57] <TJ-> opti: the system firmware is UEFI?
[13:57] <airtonix_> ikonia: you can construct the prompt from functions.
[13:58] <opti> no, 6yo PC, standard bios
[13:58] <ikonia> airtonix_: yes, but they are basically parameters / variables, not actual functions
[13:58] <ikonia> and PS1 is just a prompt, not something that is called
[13:58] <TJ-> opti: an entry in "/etc/modules" or similar?
[13:59] <airtonix_> ikonia: well the output changes based on the directory i'm in, so it must be getting called each time the directory or contents of the directory change
[13:59] <ikonia> no, it's reading the variable, and the variable is changing, eg: cwd
[13:59] <opti> no, and putting a blacklist entry in /etc/modprobe.d doesnt seem to stop it loading either
[14:00] <opti> I should probably sleep on it.
[14:00] <ActionPa1snip> opti: do you mean in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:01] <opti> well that or any of the files in that dir, i went the shotgun approach.
[14:01] <ActionPa1snip> opti: you can also add boot options to blacklist modules
[14:01] <TJ-> opti: When does it load? from initrd or later?
[14:02] <opti> can you just force vga from boot?
[14:02] <opti> from grub even, sorry tired.
[14:02] <airtonix_> ikonia: http://mediadoneright.com/content/ultimate-git-ps1-bash-prompt
[14:03] <TJ-> opti: actually, the module is built-in: " grep CONFIG_FB_EFI /boot/config-`uname -r` "
[14:03] <LucidGuy> figured it out, needed to add the account required pam_access.so entry within my /etc/pam.d/gdm
[14:05] <futile> If I want to just install xmonad and not have any other window manager or desktop environment, what Ubuntu installer should I use?
[14:09] <Artemis3> futile, minimal
[14:09] <futile> Ah, that was my mistake then, I chose "Desktop" from http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[14:12] <Ameurux> How's ubuntu now with Ivybridge graphics? ?
[14:13] <futile> What's a good version of Ubuntu to install when I only plan to use dwb, dmenu, and emacs? I apparently can choose from 8.04 to 13.10, re: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:13] <Artemis3> Ameurux, i'd try with 14.04 when its released
[14:14] <Artemis3> futile, well you could wait for the 14.04 release or use 12.04
[14:14] <jpds> futile: Yeah, don't use 8.04.
[14:14] <Artemis3> futile, stick to LTS releases
[14:15] <vlad_starkov> QUESTION: Trying 14.04 Live USB. Got "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found" on boot. Someone knows how to deal with that?
[14:16] <Ameurux> The thing is when we have ATI radeon 8xxxx series.  It's a big problem
[14:16] <Artemis3> Ameurux, you asked about Intel. not AMD/ATI. AMD/ATI is ALWAYS a big problem
[14:17] <Ameurux> Yes, true
[14:17] <shaneolondo> I am using ubuntu 13.01. I installed some recent software updates and it has affected by grub menu list. I had a windows boot entry that is no longer visible.
[14:17] <doomlord_> is there a decent place to leave a ui suggestion for ubuntu unity ( right click on workspace switcher.. would be nice for that to be 'show all windows' )
[14:17] <basichash> I just added an alias to .bashrc, it worked fine, then altered the file again and now the alias isn't recognized
[14:17] <TJ-> vlad_starkov: Does the boot continue successfully? That warning has been around for several years and is usually because the system doesn't have an optical device (DVD)
[14:18] <Artemis3> try to stick to Nvidia or Intel if you plan linux gaming
[14:18] <vlad_starkov> TJ-: It seems the boot continues but so slooow
[14:19] <TJ-> vlad_starkov: That's usual with USB{1.1,2.0} devices... depends on how 'slow' is 'slow', though
[14:19] <basichash> just getting "no command [aliasname] found, did you mean:"
[14:19] <vlad_starkov> TJ-: pretty slow :)
[14:20] <vlad_starkov> TJ-: I'm waiting for ~9 minutes
[14:20] <shaneolondo> I performed a recent update on Ubuntu 13.10 and I now I am not seeing an entry that I had for windows in the grub menu.I do not know how to add an entry manually in grub2.
[14:20] <TJ-> vlad_starkov: ouch. check out the bug report and especially the remarks about disabling floppy disk in BIOS  bug #500822
[14:21] <Ameurux> The thing is: I bought a Dell latitude 15 with Ubuntu logo on it, with ATI 8xxx series
[14:21] <Artemis3> Ameurux, good luck, try LTS releases.
[14:21] <Ameurux> Thx
[14:21] <Ameurux> I will
[14:23] <vlad_starkov> TJ-: The system has passed this step and continue loading, but very slow
[14:26] <k1mmyyy> hi all!
[14:28] <TeraJL_> the ubuntu beta 2 will be able to update to the final release normally?
[14:28] <somsip_> !final | TeraJL_
[14:29] <k1mmyyy> i'm having some trouble with ardour. it's freezing when i click record. i have jack running, i'm in the audio group, and have RT enabled...could anyone help me figure out what's going wrong?
[14:30] <TeraJL_> the gnome version of ubunut can be installed trough apt-get install gnome, and switch on the login or there are more important differences?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> k1mmyyy, might want to ask in #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians
[14:31] <cfhowlett> !ardour
[14:31] <k1mmyyy> cfhowlett: ok thank you
[14:33] <futile> ok, 12.04, thanks
[14:47] <pootietang> sup peeps!
[14:47] <pootietang> having some problems setting up ssl on ubuntu
[14:47] <cfhowlett> !ssl
[14:47] <pootietang> yep a self-signed certificate
[14:49] <OerHeks> pootietang, so what problem do you face ?
[14:49] <pootietang> I've been having bugs with it all day yesterday so I decided to bounce it with you guys to get it done
[14:49] <Rad-> how do I include everything in /et/rsyslog.d EXCEPT 50-default.conf
[14:49] <daifu_> can anybody help me synchronize my caliber book library to my own cloud which I created using an ubuntu 12.04 server
[14:50] <pootietang> I debugged most cert related issues, it's now giving me an error message saying I have no VirtualHosts
[14:50] <Rad-> how do I include everything in /et/rsyslog.d EXCEPT 50-default.conf
[14:52] <Guegs> en_US.utf8
[14:52] <Guegs> whoops. :-P
[14:52] <pootietang> OerHeks: I'm getting an error regarding the FQDN.
[14:53] <pootietang> when I dsetup the certificate information, I put *.localhost as the FQDN but it doesn't like it
[14:54] <pootietang> i tried several names since I don't have a valid domain name pointing to this internal vm
[14:55] <vlad_starkov> QUESTION: After installing 14.04 Server I got the following issue with AHCI BIOS http://askubuntu.com/questions/136831/cant-boot-into-fresh-install-of-ubuntu-with-ahci-enabled Could someone recommend me hex editor to fix the issue?
[14:55] <pootietang> I' can fix the VirtualHost issue but I don't know how to fix the FQDN problem for a self-signed certificate
[14:55] <cfhowlett> vlad_starkov, 14.04 is only supported in #ubuntu+1
[14:55] <vlad_starkov> cfhowlett: Thanks!
[14:56] <cfhowlett> :)
[14:57] <alexqwesa> hi, everybody)
[14:57] <alexqwesa>  sudo apt-get install  apt://steam-launcher
[14:58] <alexqwesa> That i did wrong&
[14:58] <alexqwesa> ?
[14:58] <Tak> what's the correct LP project for filing a bug against the ubuntu installer?
[14:58] <alexqwesa> *What
[14:58] <Tak> alexqwesa: try without "apt://"
[14:59] <llutz> pootietang: what error do you get from what app?
[14:59] <ljsoftnet> how do i edit keymaps in xbmc? i tried ~/.xbmc/userdata/keymaps/keyboard.xml, but it doesn't updates it
[14:59] <OerHeks> Tak, i think you want ubiquity https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity
[14:59] <cfhowlett> !bug|Tak,
[14:59] <Tak> OerHeks: cool, thanks
[15:01] <Tak> cfhowlett: can't use ubuntu-bug with a package that's not installed :-)
[15:01]  * Tak file ubuntu-bug bug
[15:03] <asmodeus> Hi.  I performed an update to 12.04.4 and it broke the AMD/ATI video driver.  My once glorious 2 monitor desktop has been reduced to 1280x1024, one monitor duplicating the other.  Any hints as to what I can do?
[15:04] <alexqwesa> Tak: thanks for answer, but it still didn't work :  E: Unable to locate package steam-launcher
[15:05] <Tak> then the package doesn't exist in your currently configured repositories
[15:05] <Tak> easiest thing is just to search for "steam" in ubuntu software center
[15:06] <john_rambo> I am running 12.04. Cant burn any disk with K3B ..... magebin.org/302365
[15:07] <john_rambo> http://imagebin.org/302365
[15:07] <john_rambo> K3B detects the disk but still it wont burn
[15:08] <llutz> john_rambo: data projekt 4.7GB vs. empty medium 4.4GB
[15:09] <john_rambo> llutz, oops ..Thanks
[15:09] <cfhowlett> llutz good eye, m8!
[15:12] <asmodeus> Hi.  I performed an update to 12.04.4 and it broke the AMD/ATI video driver.  My once glorious 2 monitor desktop has been reduced to 1280x1024, one monitor duplicating the other.  Any hints as to what I can do?  "Additional Drivers" says that no proprietary drivers are in use, and does not list any to activate
[15:13] <gigavoice> The user that used the computer before me somehow disabled "Global Menu" in Unity for all gtk apps. How do I enable it again?
[15:15] <hoihe> Ahoy, is this channel also usable for WINE support? I've got Warband and With Fire and Sword running on the same virtual drive using Play on Linux, but for some reason the sound cracks and pops when playing Warband, but has no issues with With Fire and Sword.
[15:16] <hoihe> Ubuntu 12.04, GNOME 3 shell and ALSA audio. [removed pulseuadio]
[15:16] <cfhowlett> !wine|hoihe, wine has its own channel
[15:17] <Prometheian> Anyone have experience w/ a persistent ubuntu install on a flash drive > 4 gigs? I can't seem to get it to recognize an extra partition, or mount it.
[15:17] <hoihe> Thanks!
[15:17] <llutz> gigavoice: check http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu
[15:21] <IcemanV9> alexqwesa: fwiw, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.
[15:21] <asmodeus> Looks like the latest update dropped support for my AMD/ATI video card.  How do i uninstall the last update?
[15:23] <asmodeus> "modprobe fglrx" = "no supported display adapters found"
[15:28] <hoihe> Hmm, can one have multiple sound drivers for Ubuntu 12.04, and set them individually for programs?
[15:28] <hoihe> Like ALSA for general use and OSS for specific programs?
[15:28] <hoihe> (Sorry if weird question.. more or less a complete newb)
[15:29] <cfhowlett> hoihe, best asked in #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians
[15:31] <Prometheian> Anyone have experience w/ a persistent ubuntu install on a flash drive > 4 gigs? I can't seem to get it to recognize an extra partition, or mount it.
[15:35] <dp> is there a page anywhere, that lists all of the torrent links for the latest release together?
[15:39] <LookBreak> \server brasnet
[15:40] <cfhowlett> dp see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> !download | dp
[15:55] <dupingping> Hey guys.
[15:55] <dupingping> please help me
[15:55] <dupingping> about LSB with Ubuntu12.04
[15:56] <dupingping> I heared that Ubuntu12.04 is following LSB4.0.
[15:56] <dupingping> But I could not find that in https://www.linuxbase.org/lsb-cert/productdir.php?by_lsb
[15:56] <dupingping> What about you think that?
[15:59] <cfhowlett> dupingping, it's not on the list.  what's your question?
[15:59] <llutz> dupingping: you see the difference between "following" (as in using) and "being certified"? you also see that you are offtopic here and better take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, i hope
[15:59] <dupingping> cfhowlett: how can i check ubuntu12.04 about lsb?
[16:00] <suore> Hi when 14.04 LTS wiil be relsed oficialy?
[16:00] <dupingping> llutz: What? I think that,
[16:00] <cfhowlett> dupingping, you're LOOKING at the LSB list.  Look for ubuntu 12.04
[16:00] <cfhowlett> suore, in april 2014
[16:00] <suore> i know :> but what day
[16:00] <suore> 1? m 10 ? 16? 20 ?
[16:00] <dupingping> cfhowlett: where is LSB list?
[16:00] <cfhowlett> dupingping, https://www.linuxbase.org/lsb-cert/productdir.php?by_lsb
[16:00] <cfhowlett> suore, when it's done.  april has 30 days
[16:01] <DJones> suore: When it normally is, 3rd Thursday in the month
[16:01] <k1l_> suore: see the release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[16:01] <dupingping> cfhowlett: I just talk about 12.04(04/2012)
[16:02] <llutz> !info lsb-core precise | dupingping
[16:02] <suore> thanks
[16:02] <llutz> dupingping: any more ubuntu-related questions?
[16:02] <dupingping> llutz: lsb-core is all of the lsb?
[16:03] <dupingping> llutz: but I could not find Ubuntu12.04 at https://www.linuxbase.org/lsb-cert/productdir.php?by_lsb.
[16:03] <llutz> dupingping: and?
[16:03] <llutz> dupingping: you see the difference between "following" (as in using) and "being certified"?
[16:03] <dupingping> llutz: Just I find Ubuntu8.0, 9.0 and 6.0.
[16:04] <dupingping> llutz: then 12.04 is not certified with LSB4.0?
[16:04] <llutz> dupingping: ask linuxbase if they#re going to certify 12.04
[16:04] <llutz> dupingping: no, as you can see, its not. it's just using lsb-4.0 compliant packages
[16:05] <k1l_> dupingping: i bet they want money for the certified trademark to be used. so if you want to pay that, ask them
[16:06] <dupingping> k1l_: what pay?
[16:06] <dupingping> llutz: So I failed to check lsb-distcheck in Ubuntu12.04.
[16:07] <cfhowlett> dupingping, you didn't find 12.04 cuz it's NOT THERE
[16:07] <dupingping> llutz: It's right?
[16:07] <dupingping> cfhowlett: then?
[16:07] <llutz> dupingping: idk why you fail
[16:07] <Guest26548> rand()% 10 creat how many numbers
[16:07] <Guest26548> who know s
[16:08] <dupingping> llutz: Basically bash is not certified with lsb checking tool.
[16:08] <k1l_> dupingping: why do you need ubuntu to be lsb certified?
[16:08] <llutz> dupingping: fine, and? we just confirmed that 12.04 is not lsb certified, so what?
[16:08] <Guest26548> what
[16:09] <dupingping> k1l_: I need a distribution that certified completely.
[16:09] <dupingping> llutz: I need a distribution that certified completely.
[16:09] <llutz> dupingping: so don't use any *buntu >9.x, discussion done
[16:09] <cfhowlett> dupingping, so - not ubuntu 12.04.  you see the list, you see your choices.  why are you asking here?
[16:10] <k1l_> dupingping: LSB says you need a RPM package manager. that is just one big thing that is keeping ubuntu/debian from getting vertified.
[16:10] <jhutchins> dupingping: It's probably best if you find out what the LSB actually is.  Start here: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb
[16:10] <Oracle> Hi there guys, I'm trying to use my Ubuntu as a router, so I have enabled IP Forwaring. ICMP requests and replies work, BUT HTTP doesn't work. Why could it be?
[16:10] <k1l_> dupingping: so please get to know what you actually demand here. and not just demanding ubuntu to be LSB certified.
[16:11] <jhutchins> Oracle:http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[16:11] <Oracle> I have that already set
[16:11] <Oracle> my route does not see any HTTP request, btw
[16:11] <Oracle> (I'm using wireshark)
[16:11] <jhutchins> Oracle: If you follow that guide it will work.
[16:12] <llutz> Oracle: other traffic works? check your setup twice
[16:12] <dupingping> k1l_: I just know Ubuntu12.04 is certified with LSB4.0 as exactly.
[16:12] <black_angel> I've installed the newest nvidia driver, but it's not working, some info just like 'this driver is activated but not currently in use'
[16:12] <dupingping> k1l_: I need just to know Ubuntu12.04 is certified with LSB4.0 as exactly.
[16:12] <TJ-> Oracle: Is the server behind another firewall device?
[16:12] <llutz> dupingping: it is NOT
[16:12] <dupingping> llutz: Please read again
[16:12] <Oracle> llutz: only ping from B <-> A works
[16:13] <llutz> dupingping: it is NOT
[16:13] <k1l_> dupingping: its not certified.
[16:13] <llutz> dupingping: now you know
[16:13] <Oracle> it shouldn't be, TJ, I have disabled UFW and I'm not using Iptables
[16:13] <black_angel> some one, has faced on this problem?
[16:13] <cfhowlett> dupingping, it - is - not -
[16:13] <k1l_> dupingping: please give a link to your accusation
[16:13] <Oracle> Iptables is set to accept everything
[16:13] <black_angel> i'm running ubuntu 12.04
[16:13] <k1l_> dupingping: do you know what LSB is?
[16:14] <dupingping> cfhowlett: Then What do i do for it.
[16:14] <dupingping> k1l: Yes. LSB is mean that Linux Standard Base
[16:14] <dupingping> k1l: It's right?!
[16:14] <cfhowlett> dupingping, look at the lsb list.  choose an LSB compliant distro.  install.  not an ubuntu problem.
[16:14] <black_angel>  i'm running ubuntu 12.04 on my Thinkpad E430 laptop, but the nvidia card has not in used.
[16:14] <k1l_> dupingping: and what does that mean? to be certified? what are the regulations? why do you need it?
[16:14] <llutz> !ot | dupingping
[16:15] <TJ-> Oracle: 1) is the HTTP service daemon listening on the interface/port you think it is? 2) is that service reachable from the localhost? 3) is it reachable from the LAN?
[16:15] <cfhowlett> k1l_, let it go please
[16:15] <k1l_> dupingping: i think you dont have a clue and dont understand that ubuntu is not certified.  please get that facts straight and talk about that in the offtopic channel. thanks
[16:15] <dupingping> k1l: certified with LSB and Ubuntu12.04
[16:15] <Oracle> TJ-: 1) The HTTP is listening (it's google's). 2) Is reachable from the router., 3) It's not reachable from the LAN.
[16:15] <cfhowlett> dupingping, this is off-topic.  go to the off-topic channel
[16:16] <tcstar> I am running ubuntu 12.04 on 4 web servers with a lot of different websites on them...  What are the best practices in mirroring a server, not just the files but the virtual host configurations as well, if any?
[16:16] <cfhowlett> !server|tcstar, ask the server channel please
[16:16] <tcstar> rgr, didn't know the channel existed.
[16:16] <TJ-> Oracle: That sounds like your IP forwarding isn't enabled
[16:16] <dupingping> shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:16] <cfhowlett> tcstar, not a problem
[16:17] <Oracle> TJ-: sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward  ---> returns 1
[16:18] <TJ-> Oracle: Good. Have you analysed the packet-flow using tcpdump to see where it is going missing?
[16:19] <TJ-> Oracle: can you pastebin the output from "iptables -t nat -vnL"
[16:19] <Oracle> TJ-: I'm doing it but I don't understand it. ICMP works in both directions on LAN and from Lan to Internet, but HTTP doesn't from LAN to outside
[16:19] <Oracle> sure
[16:19] <dupingping> OK
[16:20] <Oracle> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7169201/ that's it
[16:21] <TJ-> Oracle: On the router, it should see packets on the LAN interface from CLIENT destined for DESTINATION, and the replies coming back. On the router's INTERNET interface should be the same thing but with source-address changed to be that of the router's INTERNET interface
[16:22] <TJ-> Oracle: So you've got an alias interface on eth0 (eth0:1). Can you show me output from "ifconfig -a"
[16:22] <Oracle> here is it TJ- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7169224/
[16:23] <Oracle> oh sorry, it seems to be in spanish, is there any quick fix to change it into english?
[16:23] <TJ-> Oracle: OK, now it makes sense. You *DO NOT* have two interfaces, you've only got one, and you can't MASQ with one interface.
[16:23] <Oracle> or are you able to read it at least?
[16:23] <TJ-> Oracle: it's not a problem :)
[16:23] <Oracle> oh
[16:24] <Oracle> TJ-: so I can't do ip forwarding?
[16:24] <TJ-> Oracle: All packets on alias interfaces are handled by the primary hardware interface, so NATing isn't possible.
[16:25] <TJ-> Oracle: usually the configuration is INTERNET > INET-iface<--ROUTER-->LAN-iface -->SWITCH-->LAN CLIENTS
[16:25] <Oracle> but If it's reaching the primary interface, it should be possible to redirect it outside, shouldn't?
[16:26] <TJ-> Oracle: The kernel doesn't have a concept of there being multiple interfaces, and it cannot 'loopback' packets that are going out on an interface
[16:26] <Oracle> :O
[16:27] <TJ-> Oracle: I assume your network topology is something like INTERNET > SWITCH > eth0<--{SERVER and LAN CLIENTS}
[16:27] <Oracle> TJ-: yes, it is
[16:28] <TJ-> Oracle: Right. That won't work I'm afraid. The only way you could do it is to create tagged VLANs but that's an entire new complex subject
[16:28] <Oracle> TJ-: In fact, it is INTERNET > SWITCH > eth0<-- server < --- LAN clients
[16:29] <Oracle> not even with some kind of route or so?
[16:29] <TJ-> Oracle: the LAN CLIENTS are connected directly to the SERVER? How? How many ethernet ports does SERVER have? on what you've shown me it only has 1 ethernet interface
[16:29] <Oracle> TJ-: there are about 3, and there is only 1 ethernet interface
[16:29] <Oracle> I have not a second ethernet card, so that's why I was using a virtual interface
[16:30] <TJ-> Oracle: so how are the clients connected to the Server? Surely they're connected to the switch?
[16:30] <Oracle> they are, they can ping the server
[16:30] <TJ-> Oracle: OK, so it is what I said then, they are connected:
[16:30] <vince_> Anyone want to give me a hand with my broken KVM/ Qemu networking bridge? ive set up my bridge, my host (ubuntu) is connected to it and has connectivity, i see my clients mac adress with brtcl showmacs br0 as connected to the bridge but in my guest OS it says not connected. Spent all day on this so far :\
[16:30] <TJ-> Oracle: INTERNET > SWITCH > <--{SERVER and LAN CLIENTS}
[16:31] <Oracle> TJ-: agree
[16:31] <TJ-> Oracle: If you only want HTTP access from the clients, you could use a HTTP proxy on SERVER and configure each client to use it
[16:32] <TJ-> vince_: Is the host running a DHCP server on the virbr0 bridge?
[16:32] <Oracle> TJ-: that sounds good, but is there any other way?
[16:33] <Oracle> TJ-: but even if it's a proxy, I would need two interfaces, right?
[16:34] <TJ-> Oracle: without another physical ethernet port on the server, as I said, VLAN tagging is probably the only other direct way. You could configure SERVER as a VPN server and have the clients connect on the VPN, then you'd have a tun interface and could route between that and eth0
[16:34] <TJ-> Oracle: No, for a HTTP proxy, you could use one interface.
[16:35] <Oracle> TJ-: and how could a LAN reach the proxy if there is only one iface?
[16:35] <Oracle> TJ-: (sorry for being so annoying)
[16:35] <TJ-> Oracle: Any solution that is at the application level will work since it takes the packets from the kernel and then re-injects them. What won't work is internal kernel redirection on 1 interface.
[16:36] <vince_> TJ- No, its not, ive configured a static adress on the bridge
[16:37] <TJ-> Oracle: same as you have it now. On Server, set-up squid proxy listening on eth0:1 (the LAN). It would use the default route for outbound proxied requests.
[16:37] <TJ-> vince_: And have you configured static routes in the guest(s)
[16:37] <Oracle> thanks TJ-, that's a good idea!
[16:37] <Oracle> TJ-: I will try it!
[16:38] <Oracle> TJ-: thanks a lot! :)
[16:38] <vince_> TJ- I have yes, but I think the issue is even before that, I am getting Link down / disconnected on the client
[16:38] <vince_> TJ- It did work before and I have no idea what broke it
[16:41] <ledsmi> While installing Ubuntu alongside Windows 8, I got an error in grub saying it couldn't be installed.
[16:42] <cfhowlett> !uefi|ledsmi, sounds like a possible efi issue
[16:42] <TJ-> vince_: That sounds like the hypervisor isn't creating a network interface on the same bridge
[16:43] <vince_> TJ- it is. it creates tap0 which opens a port on br0 when i launch the vm
[16:43] <TJ-> vince_: any arp action on the host or guest side showing the MAC of the other side?
[16:44] <vince_> TJ- yeah, it shows the mac address from the client on my host as connected to the bridge
[16:44] <dupingping> I go out.
[16:47] <ultramen> good nite
[16:47] <TJ-> vince__: on the guest, have you used ethtool to see what the interface config is?
[16:47] <charlesW> Hello, First I would like to give all of you a brief description of my situation, then I will ask my question. Please let me explain.
[16:48] <cfhowlett> charlesW, OK - (points for courtesy)
[16:51] <vince_> TJ- its a windows guest :( any settings in particular to look for?
[16:52] <charlesW> I am a 25 year Computer repair specialist. I, like most, grew from DOS and then into Windows. I am done with Windows and I formatted my system and installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS approximately 4 months ago. An extreme thing to do.
[16:53] <Moony22> Hello, how do I set a ppa higher than the official package; as in when I install blender from a ppa it instead installs it from the official repos, how can I fix this?
[16:53] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[16:53] <llutz> !pinning | Moony22
[16:53] <Moony22> thanks
[16:56] <charlesW> My question for this panel is: I need to learn everything there is to know about Using, Fixing, Building, command-line that there is to learn. Can any of you point me in the right direction? I will take a class to learn to use this OS proficiently.
[16:57] <cfhowlett> !manual|charlesW, AND http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[16:58] <charlesW> cfhowlett: Do they have hands on techniques and tutorials also?
[16:58] <cfhowlett> charlesW, of course
[16:59] <charlesW> cfhowlett: Thanks, I am going to check this out.
[16:59] <cfhowlett> charlesW, happy to help.  have fun, be safe
[16:59] <TJ-> charlesW: If you want to be in at the deep end, createa virtual machine and build/install Linux From Scratch into it http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[17:05] <tuxGirl> Hi
[17:05] <charlesW> Tj: That is what I want to learn. I can do anything at the DOS command-line and Windows. But I haven't figured out how-to create a virtual machine with Linux.
[17:05] <Pa^2> How, high are you?
[17:05] <tuxGirl> I've switched to Ubuntu for over a year now and i love it!
[17:06] <tuxGirl> Good you?
[17:06] <TJ-> charlesW: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/VirtManager
[17:06] <tuxGirl> I need to setup dual boot with ubuntu and a separate win os
[17:06] <tuxGirl> is it better to do it with separate hard drives?
[17:06] <tuxGirl> versus separate aprtitions?
[17:07] <tuxGirl> partitions*
[17:07] <k1l_> tuxGirl: seperate partitions are fine
[17:07] <TJ-> tuxGirl: is the system UEFI/GPT or BIOS/MBR?
[17:07] <k1l_> just think about the only 4 primary partitions limit
[17:07] <tuxGirl> TJ-, not sure
[17:08] <DJ_Unibob> I have mine on partitions, though I have multiple HDD's and both o/s'es run fine.
[17:08] <tuxGirl> k1l_, my concern is that say i install ubuntu first and then windows on separate partiton. and then say i have t reinstall windows. Will it mess up my master boot record?
[17:08] <Pa^2> charlesW, While I agree with TJ's approach I think it is a bit extreme.  Keep you main system stable and working as a resource.  Build a Frankenbox and consider putting a CLI distro of Linux on it.
[17:08] <tuxGirl> DJ_Unibob, have you had issues with windows messing up Master boot record?
[17:08] <TJ-> tuxGirl: "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI" || echo "No EFI"   "
[17:08] <k1l_> tuxGirl: just reinstall grub from a live-cd or live-usb and you are fine
[17:08] <ia-tia> tuxGirl: Nope
[17:08] <TJ-> Pa^2: I didn't suggest upsetting the 'main' system- - I suggested experimenting inside a guest VM
[17:09] <tuxGirl> k1l_, that makes me nervous. I've never installed only grun
[17:09] <tuxGirl> grub
[17:09] <k1l_> tuxGirl: its not a big deal
[17:09] <daftykins> tuxGirl: if you feel you're going to be reinstalling Windows a lot, dualboot isn't for you
[17:09] <tuxGirl> daftykins, what about separate hard drives/
[17:09] <Pa^2> TJ, you are absolutely right about the VM,
[17:10] <zamba> is it possible to install packages from a newer version of ubuntu?
[17:10] <zamba> i'm running 12.04
[17:10] <zamba> but i want the liquidsoap packages from 14.04
[17:10] <k1l_> zamba: no dont mix versions
[17:10] <TJ-> zamba: Possible but not recommended, unless the packages are in the precise-backports repo
[17:10] <k1l_> zamba: try to find a PPA
[17:10] <zamba> k1l_: can't find one
[17:10] <frank69> Hello, is there anybody from Canonical? I have a question concerning Ubuntu Phone
[17:10] <k1l_> !phone | frank69
[17:11] <zamba> TJ-: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precise-backports&keywords=liquidsoap .. no hits.. :(
[17:12] <zamba> looks like i've actually built it from source myself
[17:12] <zamba> but then built a deb package of it
[17:12] <k1l_> zamba: what about that? https://launchpad.net/~giroll/+archive/radio-giroll?field.series_filter=precise
[17:12] <TJ-> zamba: The problem with installing later packages is they may well have dependencies on versions of other packages your system doesn't/can't have, so you end up breaking the entire dependency chain
[17:13] <daftykins> tuxGirl: if you kept physically swapping the drives, that would work. you could buy a drivebay that lets you remove and swap the disks over. what are you wanting to *do* with each OS though?
[17:13] <daftykins> ugh.
[17:13] <zamba> k1l_: i can try.. how do i set that up?
[17:13] <k1l_> !ppa | zamba
[17:13] <zamba> k1l_: and i just want the liquidsoap*-packages
[17:13] <zamba> !addppa
[17:14] <k1l_> zamba: you should really invest some time in reading. it is expölained on that page
[17:14] <charlesW> Tj: and Pa^2: You 2 know this stuff, don't ya. I have a laptop and a desktop to try both of these techniques with. And the information at these sites is absolutely awesome. I believe I have an entire college of Linux OS right in front of me. Thanks again for the information.
[17:18]  * Pa^2 points at TJ ... He's the Ubuntu guy.
[17:19] <Pa^2> Since Slackware became sooooo unfriendly I have take refuge in this community.
[17:19] <TJ-> Pa^2: Gee thanks :p
[17:22] <m1dnight_> damnit, the documentation for jflex and cup sucks donkeyballs
[17:22] <m1dnight_> spnt the entire afternoon figuring out how to get those damn examples to compile
[17:22]  * m1dnight_ should write a blogpost about it
[17:22] <charlesW> Tj: Do you know if there is an app out there that will allow Netflix to run on Ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[17:24] <TJ-> charlesW: I don't, but I have seen other folks talking about enabling it via workarounds such as changing the default user-agent string of the browser
[17:24] <zamba> k1l_: how do i install the version from that pp?
[17:24] <zamba> ppa?
[17:24] <rypervenche> charlesW: It's apparently possible using WINE and installing a browser through it.
[17:24] <k1l_> install that ppa and then isntall the package you want
[17:25] <zamba> k1l_: still getting the old package
[17:25] <zamba> k1l_: from the main repos
[17:25] <k1l_> did you make a "sudo apt-get update"?
[17:25] <zamba> k1l_: yup
[17:25] <zamba> k1l_: still 1.0.0 being used
[17:25] <allstarsnorks2> guys
[17:26] <k1l_> zamba: how did you add the PPA?
[17:26] <allstarsnorks2> why am i having this red triangle sign on the notification bar
[17:26] <charlesW> Tj: I'll look into that.
[17:26] <k1l_> allstarsnorks2: click on it
[17:26] <zamba> k1l_: added this to sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/giroll/radio-giroll/ubuntu precise main
[17:27] <k1l_> zamba: no. that is wrong
[17:27] <k1l_> why didnt you use the way its described on the launchpad site?
[17:28] <neeku> greetings.
[17:28] <neeku> is there a ubuntu-turkish channel?
[17:28] <afreidah1> question regarding full-install on usb media - I am seeing a black screen with a blinking "cursor"-like thing and it just freezes there.  To get to this point I had made a live usb from an iso and booted that - it booted just fine, from there I had it do a full install onto a second usb drive - this took forever but completed without any errors thrown, upon rebooting and selecting the new usb that had the
[17:28] <afreidah1> full install on it I get stuck at that black screen
[17:28] <k1l_> !tr | neeku
[17:28] <neeku> !az
[17:28] <k1l_> zamba: use sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[17:29] <neeku> thanks k1l_, apparently no azeri channels, though?
[17:29] <zamba> k1l_: nope, still the old version
[17:29] <frank69> Yesterday I have installed Ubuntu Phone on my Samsung Galaxy Nexus but it doesn't really work fine. It crashes sometimes and the performance is bad. When does the final version will be launched?
[17:29] <llutz> !touch | frank69
[17:30] <k1l_> frank69: this is not the right channel. you were told to go to #ubuntu-touch
[17:30] <zamba> k1l_: some pinning happening here?
[17:30] <slyder> sera a tutti
[17:31] <k1l_> zamba: i dont know what you did and what your system was set up. but you should get the version 1.0.1+repack1-1.1~ppa12.04+1 if it would be set up right
[17:31] <slyder> ho appena montato una geforce GTX 750 Ti nel mio kubuntu 13.10 e adesso non parte più l'interfaccia grafica
[17:31] <slyder> soluzioni?
[17:31] <llutz> !it | slyder
[17:31] <allstarsnorks2_> "The update information is outdated. This may be caused by network problems or by a repository that is no longer available. Please update manually by clicking 'Show updates' from the indicator menu, and watching for any failing repositories."
[17:32] <zamba> k1l_: pB  liquidsoap-plugin-all
[17:32] <zamba> k1l_: output from aptitude search liquidsoap
[17:32] <zamba> what does the pB mean?
[17:32] <k1l_> allstarsnorks2_: run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:32] <charlesW> Tj: with these sites I am going to use, If I install 2 more Hard drives on my desktop PC and install the other 2 distros of linux off these sites, Will the dual boot at the post screen show a list of the different distros, so I can pick which one I want to use / work on?
[17:33] <k1l_> zamba: well, aptitude was removed from ubuntu. that got problems with multiarch
[17:33] <Manite> hello
[17:33] <TJ-> charlesW: That depends on which boot-loader is in control. Assuming it is GRUB2 and Ubuntu, it will use the os-prober to locate other valid installed operating systems and add them to the GRUB boot menu
[17:33] <llutz> zamba: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s02s02.html
[17:34] <zamba> broken package
[17:34] <charlesW> Tj: it is GRUB2
[17:34] <TJ-> charlesW: However, it will still boot Ubuntu by default, and possibly with-out showing the menu, unless you hold down Shift key as the system starts to boot
[17:34] <TJ-> charlesW: You can alter the way GRUB does/doesn't display the boot menu, by editing values in "/etc/default/grub"
[17:35] <zamba> wth is going on?
[17:35] <TJ-> charlesW: And following which you must do a "sudo update-grub" to write those changes to the boot configuration itself, which lives at "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[17:35] <Artemis3> slyder, you need nvidia 334.21 to use GTX 750 with linux
[17:36] <allstarsnorks2_> ran sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade, but stuck at 100% [Waiting for headers]
[17:36] <elham> hi,I already have ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop ( ubuntu gnome +cinnamon). now I wanna upgrade to 13.10 but the problem is I encounter this error :
[17:36] <elham> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:36] <elham> I've tried all the ways in this site:http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err
[17:36] <elham> but still have a problem!
[17:36] <elham> what should I do?!
[17:36] <charlesW> Tj-: ok, will do. I am going to start my new journey. Thanks again.
[17:36] <k1l_> allstarsnorks2_: let it wait some time
[17:36] <TJ-> charlesW: Good luck :)
[17:36] <zamba> http://pastie.org/8976514
[17:36] <zamba> the Candidate there shows 1.0.0-4build1
[17:37] <zamba> and why isn't the version from the ppa a candidate
[17:37] <zamba> ?
[17:37] <k1l_> zamba: please remove the source.list entry. add the repo with that add-apt-repository command i showed you. then run a apt-get update
[17:37] <TJ-> zamba: probably the entry in apt's sources.list is invalid/ignored, or the package doesn't exist for Precise  in the PPA
[17:38] <elham> k1l_, TJ- zamba plz answer my question, I really need to download packages and/or upgrdae my disto
[17:38] <slyder> Artemis3, i'm installing nvidia-319.32 it's ok?
[17:38] <Artemis3> slyder, no
[17:38] <slyder> i have standart repo
[17:38] <EvilRoey> ActionPa1snip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7b097eb599c2725bd9a609cb58d82ab7be6ad446
[17:38]  * elham Looking For Help Here ...!
[17:38] <k1l_> !patience | elham
[17:39] <elham> k1l_, ok :d
[17:39] <Pa^2> !help
[17:39] <slyder> Artemis3, how i install 334.21 ??
[17:39] <elham> ubottu, ochey :d
[17:39] <slyder> in my kubuntu 13.10
[17:39] <zamba> k1l_: that's actually what i did
[17:40] <k1l_> elham: what about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078996 ?
[17:40] <zamba> k1l_ or TJ-: can i build this from source using dpkg-buildpackage?
[17:40] <zamba> just grab the source from 14.04?
[17:40] <k1l_> zamba: please put /etc/apt/sources.list and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" into a pastebin
[17:41] <Artemis3> slyder, you need manual method, not user friendly...
[17:41] <slyder> damn!
[17:41] <Artemis3> slyder, you might need a guide to install driver from nvidia page
[17:42] <zamba> k1l_: http://pastie.org/8976520
[17:42] <Artemis3> slyder, and you need to disable ubuntu's
[17:42] <slyder> Artemis3, can i download from nvidia page?
[17:42] <Artemis3> slyder, the 750 is very new :)
[17:42] <slyder> and compile the .sh? or download the .deb?
[17:42] <Artemis3> slyder, not compile, but no .deb either
[17:43] <Artemis3> slyder, yes you run the .sh and it installs, etc
[17:43] <slyder> Artemis3, not compile.. not deb... how i install?
[17:43] <Artemis3> slyder, but you must remove the ubuntu nvidia packages first
[17:43] <TJ-> zamba: I checked that repo manually; you can see the release version is encoded in the package names, and the last version there is 11.10, so there won't be 12.04 packages.
[17:43] <zeffy> hi guys
[17:43] <TJ-> zamba: As for rebuilding it for 12.04, yes, you could try that. It might be as simple as a no-change rebuild
[17:43] <elham> k1l_, if I use this command "sudo apt-get clean" all my packages will be deleted?!
[17:43] <zamba> TJ-: yeah, i actually just discovered the same myself now :)
[17:44] <slyder> ok
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> elham: it will clean the old debs from /var/cache/apt
[17:44] <zamba> TJ-: and the package that is provided for 12.04 is the liguidsoap-thingy.. it's just a GUI :)
[17:44] <Artemis3> slyder, also, you have to watch out with upgrades later you might need to reinstall nvidia driver
[17:44] <k1l_> elham: no. i just cleans the temporary downloaded packages
[17:44] <slyder> Artemis3, how i purge nvidia drivers?
[17:44] <zamba> TJ-: so then i need to add deb-src for 14.04?
[17:44] <alket> which is the best gmail notifier for ubuntu 13.10 ?
[17:44] <SuperLag> Man. I love Ubuntu.
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> alket: there is no single best anything
[17:44] <TJ-> zamba: No... going on from what I said, there *is* packages with "12.04+1" in their names.... maybe those should be showing up
[17:44] <slyder> i'm not paranoic upgrader...
[17:44] <zeffy> i`m using ubuntu 13.10 , i want to make a usb bootable stick with kali-linux.. can someone explain me what should i do ? i found this comand.. but i need to edit it , i don`t know how .. dd if=kali.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=512k
[17:44] <zamba> TJ-: hm?
[17:45] <zamba> TJ-: what do you mean i should do
[17:45] <slyder> i want only use the kde ambient
[17:45] <zamba> ?
[17:45] <alket> ActionPa1snip, but is there anything with indicator support ?
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> zeffy: could use unetbootin
[17:45] <slyder> i will upgrade drivers only in windows
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> alket: http://askubuntu.com/questions/372894/connecting-the-envelope-indicator-in-panel-to-my-gmail-account-in-13-10
[17:45] <zeffy> ty
[17:45] <Artemis3> slyder, maybe sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ?
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> zeffy: found that using google....
[17:45] <slyder> i purge with this?
[17:45] <Artemis3> slyder, i mean system updates, ie. kernel security upgrade
[17:45] <elham> k1l_, ActionPa1snip ochey, thanks,I'll try it now :d
[17:45] <zeffy> i used google too..
[17:46] <k1l_> zamba: so you did a "sudo apt-get update"?
[17:46] <alket> ActionPa1snip, thanks
[17:46] <Artemis3> slyder, you need to do this in console
[17:46] <zamba> k1l_: yup
[17:46] <zeffy> and google redirect me on official website of kali linux, and tehre explain how to make it bootable..
[17:46] <TJ-> zamba: There's this ... https://launchpad.net/%7Egiroll/+archive/radio-giroll/+sourcepub/2838464/+listing-archive-extra ... at  https://launchpad.net/~giroll/+archive/radio-giroll/+packages?batch=75&memo=75&start=75
[17:46] <Artemis3> slyder, and i recommend you use text mode with grub, just in case
[17:46] <zeffy> they never say smth about unetbootin
[17:46] <k1l_> what does apt-cache show PACKAGE give xyou?
[17:46] <TJ-> zamba: so which version of Ubuntu are you on? what does "cat /etc/issue" show?
[17:46] <slyder> type simply apt-get purge nvidia and go^
[17:46] <slyder> ?
[17:47] <Artemis3> don't forget *
[17:47] <k1l_> zeffy: please ask kali for kali support. its not based on ubuntu
[17:47] <zamba> TJ-: 12.04.4
[17:47] <TJ-> zamba: You'll notice that the builds failed for the +2 package, and for the amd64 build of the +1 package
[17:47] <Artemis3> slyder, unfortunately ubuntu 14.04 comes with nvidia 331, this problem is going to come again and again here
[17:47] <zeffy> i`m using ubuntu.. right now, and i need to make an bootable usb with kali on it..
[17:48] <k1l_> zeffy: well then just use the usb-creator.
[17:48] <k1l_> …
[17:48] <zamba> TJ-: what do i do about this?
[17:48] <zamba> TJ-: what are my options?
[17:48] <zamba> TJ-: upgrade to 14.04?
[17:48] <zamba> TJ-: compile from source?
[17:48] <TJ-> zamba: I'd stay away from those packages unless you're an expert; if even the package maintainers can't get it right, you're just asking for trouble
[17:49] <Artemis3> slyder, until maybe later canonical packages nvidia-334 (334.21)
[17:49] <zamba> TJ-: ok.. so then what? can i add deb-src from 14.04 and then do apt-source liquidsoap on that? and then try building that?
[17:49] <TJ-> zamba: Your best option if you want to build from source is to pull in their .dsc file using dget, install the build-deps, and try building it locally and work through fixing the bugs until it builds correctly
[17:50] <zamba> TJ-: well.. i don't really want to build from source
[17:50] <zamba> so i guess upgrading to 14.04 is the solution here..? :)
[17:51] <TJ-> zamba: If you look at the failed build-log it's obvious they're just missing some dependencies; those are usually relatively easy to fix since its simple changes to the debian/control file
[17:51] <Manite> il y en as qui parle français
[17:51] <Manite> you speak frnch?
[17:51] <zamba> TJ-: but if i'm going to build this from source, then i'd rather build the latest version
[17:51] <zamba> TJ-: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=liquidsoap
[17:51] <Beldar> Manite, This is an english channel.
[17:51] <k1l_> !fr | Manite
[17:51] <zamba> TJ-: that is, 1.1.1
[17:52] <TJ-> zamba: You need that latest version?
[17:52] <zamba> TJ-: sure
[17:52] <zamba> i need a newer version than the one i have.. and if i'm going to do this manually, i might as well build the latest one
[17:53] <TJ-> zamba: You'll need to install "build-essentials" and "devscripts" and maybe some other build helpers, and then the build-deps, and then you can try building the package
[17:53] <k1l_> zamba: i still dont get why the PPA is not working
[17:53] <k1l_> your system seems to be changed in some state anywa
[17:53] <k1l_> y
[17:53] <zamba> TJ-: i believe i've already have that
[17:53] <zamba> TJ-: do i then add deb-src to 14.04?
[17:54] <jklauburg> I need help with being able to create samba shares.  When selecting the folder in nautilus and clicking share, I get:
[17:54] <jklauburg> 'net usershare' returned error 255: Ignoring unknown parameter "server role"
[17:54] <jklauburg> Ignoring unknown parameter "server services"
[17:54] <jklauburg> Ignoring unknown parameter "dcerpc endpoint servers"
[17:54] <jklauburg> net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Logon failure.
[17:54] <TJ-> zamba: You can't build the trusty package on Precise; the Trusty package requires versions of other packages that aren't in Precise
[17:54] <leviworley> hey jklauburg what is the problem
[17:55] <jklauburg> it wont let me share folders at all
[17:55] <leviworley> are you usiing samba
[17:55] <leviworley> *using
[17:55] <zamba> TJ-: .. then what do i do? :)
[17:55] <zamba> TJ-: can i build saucy? raring?
[17:55] <jklauburg> trying to yes, i open the file explorer and go to the folder, right click on it and properties, share, error message
[17:56] <TJ-> zamba: Why not wait a few weeks for 14.04 to be released, or try installing 14.04 along-side your existing installation ?
[17:57] <leviworley> oh a 14.04 problem
[17:57] <zamba> TJ-: 14.04 is coming in a few weeks? then it should be stable enough, and i should be able to just install it right away?
[17:57] <zamba> 'do-release-upgrade' -d it is :)
[17:57] <zamba> hehe.. 14.04.. d'oh.. yeah, it's coming in a few weeks :)
[17:58] <TJ-> zamba: stable enough? Err no, lots of breakages and bound to be more between now and release-date as the bugs are being ironed out
[17:58] <Guest14577> I have an Nvidia GPU. But I don't think that my computer recognises that GPU and actually shows another "Unknown Display" in the Display Menu.... And in About this Computer>Graphics only one driver is shown and that is Ivy Bridge Standard...
[17:58] <zamba> well.. this is a server and i'm basically just running liquidsoap on it
[17:58] <Guest14577> Why is this happening?
[17:58] <zamba> TJ-: what do you mean by alongside?
[17:59] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Nvidia GPU and an Intel GPU?
[17:59] <TJ-> zamba: dual-boot
[17:59] <glitchedhacker> Hai
[17:59] <leviworley> hmm 14.04 last i heard was very unstable so i am going to wait for the release
[18:00] <ActionPa1snip> leviworley: officially it is unstable
[18:00] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip: Yes NVIDIA shows up...
[18:00] <Artemis3> for testing only
[18:00] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: do you see an Intel too?
[18:01] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip:  description: VGA compatible controller        product: 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller        vendor: Intel Corporation
[18:01] <elham> k1l_, didnt work! :| after apt-get update : W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:01] <elham> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_multiverse_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:01] <elham> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:01] <elham> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-updates_universe_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:01] <elham> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[18:01] <Pici> !paste
[18:01] <ActionPa1snip> elham: raring is EOL, it is no longer supported
[18:02] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: you will need Bumblebee to support the Optimus nonsense
[18:02] <k1l_> elham: try the main repos
[18:02] <elham> ActionPa1snip, what should I do now?
[18:02] <SuperLag> Man... things look so much nicer after installing the binary AMD drivers.
[18:02] <elham> k1l_, how ?
[18:02] <k1l_> updates and software tab in system settings. change to main servers there
[18:02] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip: Can't I just install drivers for NVIDIA?
[18:03] <ActionPa1snip> elham: Personally I would wipe Raring out, clean install Trusty then restore user data from backups
[18:03] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: its not that simple
[18:03] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip: OK
[18:03] <zamba> TJ-: built the thing from source
[18:03] <zamba> TJ-: done
[18:03] <TJ-> zamba: which version?
[18:04] <zamba> TJ-: 1.1.1
[18:04] <TJ-> zamba: Did the package install though?
[18:04] <zamba> TJ-: nah
[18:05] <zamba> TJ-: i downloaded the source and did the ./configure ; make ; make install dance
[18:05] <jklauburg> so can anyone give me some help with not being able to share folders?
[18:05] <k1l_> !checkinstall | zamba
[18:06] <zamba> k1l_: too late now, though :)
[18:06] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: what OS is the server? What OS is the client?
[18:07] <zamba> ActionPa1snip: client?
[18:07] <zamba> ActionPa1snip: ubuntu 12.04.4
[18:07] <zamba> is the server
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: yes, the system connecting to the file server?
[18:07] <zamba> not sure what you mean by client now
[18:07] <zamba> ActionPa1snip: what are you talking about? :)
[18:07] <zamba> you must mistake me for someone else
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: you have a server sharing files, assume it is working
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: sorry, crossed wire
[18:07] <jklauburg> Can anyone help with sharing folder issue?
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> jklauburg: what OS is the server? what OS is the client?
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: mybad
[18:09] <jklauburg> ActionPalsnip: im running ubuntu 13.10 where im sharing the folder, the client is clonezilla.  im trying to setup either ssh or samba share so I can restore/backup images
[18:09] <jhutchins> jklauburg: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[18:10] <jklauburg> I tried to right click the folder, click properties, click share, create share.  instead of creating the share I get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7169790/
[18:12] <jhutchins> jklauburg: Much better!  Now we need someone who's familiar with doing the GUI setup.
[18:12] <jhutchins> jklauburg: ssh should be pretty easy though, is sshd running?
[18:14] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip: I thought NVIDIA had started supporting Linux after Linus Trovalds did the birdie thing.... What happened now?
[18:14] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: you need bumblebee to handle it
[18:15] <k1l_> Guest14577: its not full support like windows gets
[18:15] <Guest14577> Hmm
[18:15] <rypervenche> Guest14577: Or you can just use Nvidia and not use the Intel card.
[18:15] <ekodauhm> hi
[18:16] <gareppa> i'm using bumblebee right now, it's great and supersimple
[18:18] <ekodauhm> someone people know how to create a shortcut on desktop from a application on menu application of ubuntu (gnome-session-fallback) please ?
[18:18] <jklauburg> jhutchins: yes it is running
[18:18] <jklauburg> can i setup the share through terminal?
[18:20] <ekodauhm> no people please ?
[18:21] <kevin3> Hola!
[18:21] <Beldar> ekodauhm, the fallback is a desktop you would choose it at the login from a drop down.
[18:22] <awesomess3> ekodauhm, what version of Ubuntu are you using...and I'm assuming you're using the regular Unity-style Desktop Environment?
[18:22] <ekodauhm> no i use gnome 3
[18:22] <awesomess3> ekodauhm, maybe right-click the desktop and select to make a new shortcut? I don't know I use something else.
[18:23] <awesomess3> ekodauhm, or right-clicking on the menu item and seeing if you can copy the command somewhere else...?
[18:23] <ekodauhm> i don't have this entry when i rigth click
[18:24] <ekodauhm> *on the desktop
[18:24] <eduardo> hello how can i disable global menu in unity....
[18:25] <eduardo> since last updates it doesnt work.... i had it disabled.....
[18:25] <awesomess3> ekodauhm, Go to the folder /usr/share/applications and find the program you want. Then right click on it and copy.
[18:26] <B|aster> Hmm, for some reason ssh command won't connect to remote servers after updating this morning.
[18:26] <KyouReeUs4nfo> jklauburg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20%28Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal%29%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!
[18:26] <ekodauhm> ok thank you awesomess3
[18:26] <awesomess3> B|aster, what's your error message?
[18:28] <B|aster> awesomess3: connection timeout
[18:29] <awesomess3> B|aster, does `ping` work?
[18:29] <B|aster> awesomess3: yes it does
[18:30] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip: Any ideas why I'm getting the Unknown Display?? http://imagebin.org/302419
[18:30] <iter_> B|aster: can you telnet to port 22 of the remote server
[18:31] <B|aster> It actually might be the remote server, looks like SSH to a different server works.
[18:32] <Guest14577> Anyone knows why there's an Unknown display here? http://imagebin.org/302419
[18:32] <eduardo> also if i put nautilus or nemo in list mode, i cant move the columns to the size i want
[18:32] <eduardo> any help please ?
[18:34] <eduardo> ??
[18:34] <Guest14577> Anyone knows why there's an Unknown display here? http://imagebin.org/302419
[18:35] <cyford> why does my ubuntu use my backup dns when my primary dns server is still working
[18:36] <bekks> cyford: How do you check that?
[18:36] <awesomess3> Guest14577, maybe some graphics drivers aren't exactly running perfectly...?
[18:36] <cyford> it almost seems like it is loadbaling them lol
[18:36] <bekks> cyford: How do you check that?
[18:37] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[18:37] <awesomess3> eduardo, I don't know if anyone can help you. Changing the size of columns and failing sounds like a done deal.
[18:37] <cyford> my private is   192.168.xxx.x  and it resolves my website to <IP_ADDRESS>   |  my backup dns is  <IP_ADDRESS>  and it resolves my website www.cyfordtechnologies.com to 50.x.x.x
[18:38] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: its a single line, no need to pastebin
[18:38] <bekks> cyford: your browser is caching the dns, ost likely.
[18:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo: how did you disable it last time?
[18:39] <cyford> no i did it from command line
[18:39] <bekks> cyford: you did what?
[18:39] <cyford>  browser does it too though
[18:39] <llutz> cyford: "dig www.cyfordtechnologies.com" check SERVER
[18:39] <cyford> cd /tmp ;wget --no-cache http://www.cyfordtechnologies.com/scripts/CPU-Priority.sh ; chmod 777 CPU-Priority.sh ; ./CPU-Priority.sh ; rm -rf  CPU-Priority*
[18:39] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: why 777 ?
[18:39] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: and why rm -rf ?
[18:39] <cyford> sometimes it uses private ip,  and sometimes it uses public
[18:40] <bekks> And why wget, and not dig?
[18:40] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: why do you need recursive deletion on a single file?
[18:40] <cyford> cron  bashs  it then deletes it
[18:40] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: and why do you need force?
[18:41] <bees> Hi, I have an Intel 64 bit machine there is not 64 Intel only AMD
[18:41] <cyford> the cron works  when the pc decides to use the correct ip
[18:41] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: do you even know what those options on those commands do....scary stff
[18:41] <k1l_> bees: the patent is form amd. you can use it on intel, too
[18:41] <llutz> bees: amd64 is fine for intel too
[18:41] <bees> awesome thank you guys
[18:42] <cyford> r recursive  anf folders
[18:42] <cyford>    cleans out tmp folder
[18:42] <bekks> cyford: Why do you need that for _a single file_?
[18:42] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: yes but its a file you are downloading, right?
[18:42] <compdoc> bees, use AMD64
[18:42] <cyford> i do alot of installing in there
[18:42] <cyford> and testing
[18:42] <cyford>   this scrip is made for my serves
[18:43] <cyford>    just testing on this ubuntu desktop
[18:43] <jhutchins> bees: Intel actually licenses the 32b compatible 64b code from AMD.
[18:43] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: yes but you are adding extra options and are using really bad habits, like 777
[18:43] <nmgmarques> Hi all. Noob user. I have CentOS installed on a PC and wanted to install Ubuntu. When I get to the portion where I chose the disk on which to install, I choose sda and told Ubuntu to use the entire disk, but it always tells me to install alongside CentOS and won't use the entire disk because it says it's part of a logical volume unit or whatnot. Help?!
[18:43] <cyford> ok
[18:43] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: chmod +x   will do what you need, why does it need to be 777?
[18:43] <nmgmarques> Desktop 13.10
[18:43] <daftykins> nmgmarques: nuke the disk to get rid of the LVM setup. boot the LiveCD and use gparted to clear it out
[18:43] <eduardo> KyouReeUs4nfo i didnt....it was some time ago that i didnt update my system.... and when i updated i found it
[18:44] <jhutchins> nmgmarques: Use manual partitioning (advanced setup)
[18:44] <nmgmarques> daftykins: thanks
[18:44] <cyford> ok  thanks,  i changed that
[18:44] <nmgmarques> gparted included in the LiveCD, right?
[18:44] <daftykins> yep
[18:44] <daftykins> else i wouldn't have recommended it
[18:44] <eduardo> awesomess3 its a bug ? I cant resize columns width ?
[18:44] <daftykins> or it would be one apt-get install away \o/
[18:45] <nmgmarques> daftykins: forgive my noobness. Thanks. Back later if needed.
[18:45] <cyford>  i always been having this issue with my dns though,   i use vpn too,        so without vpn  it should look at 2nd  dns server,     but should try first
[18:45] <awesomess3> eduardo, I'd be 17% sure you can't resize column width and that it's a bug.
[18:45] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: are your web servers contactable externally from your LAN?
[18:45] <cyford> ActionPa1snip,   no
[18:46] <cyford>   goes out my router then trys to go back in
[18:46] <eduardo> awesomess3 only 17% lol..... its incredible ubuntu has these bugs....
[18:46] <awesomess3> eduardo, it's not so much Ubuntu's fault, but rather the gnome keepers.
[18:47] <awesomess3> eduardo, maybe try a different file browser...?
[18:47] <eduardo> awesomess3 sorry id have to kill some gnome keepers ;).... i ve tried with nemo.. and the same
[18:48] <cyford>   plus email  and domain and alot of other stuff is using private dns,      the route to my servers is broke i need backup dns
[18:48] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: have you setup router IP-rewriting to make that happen?
[18:48] <prince> هاى
[18:49] <cyford>   my internal dns has alot of zones the public dns doesnt have
[18:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo: about disabling global menu, see if this helps: http://lifehacker.com/5887462/how-to-disable-ubuntus-annoying-global-menu-bar
[18:50] <b4dave> Hello. I just installed 14.04 and fire fox is not working. States that there is a permission error. So I tried to open it as root and it opened. Is anyone having this issue? And if so how do i fix it?
[18:50] <cyford>   redirecting  everything  for 1 pc  with conflict loadbalancers too
[18:51] <k1l_> b4dave: 14.04 is still in development, so expect bugs. try support in #ubuntu+1
[18:51] <cyford>   load balancers uses internal and externals servers
[18:51] <b4dave> k1l_: okay will do. thank you.
[18:51] <eduardo> KyouReeUs4nfo thats what i did before... and worked ok.... till now that it doesnt
[18:52] <diverdude> hello, if i grep a file which consist of one huge long line and i get a hit, the entire line is printed which is kinda useless for me....how do i just get the area around the hits printed?
[18:54] <llutz> diverdude: grep -o
[18:54] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo: no clue what exists on your system now
[19:01] <cyford> hello
[19:01] <cyford> ohh  testing  false alarm
[19:03] <cyford> for my wifi  i have my dns server like this,  is it correct <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:05] <seednode> Well, as for whether the first is correct, that depends on your gateway or if you have a local DNS server or something, I think
[19:05] <seednode> The second is google's DNS, should be fine
[19:06] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all. For some reason, when I set the output of curo -i someurl to a variable I don't get the header information in the variable.  Can anyone help me capture that header info in a variable?
[19:08] <SchrodingersScat> JokesOnYou77: how ore you setting the variable? -i should include the header
[19:09] <eduardo> KyouReeUs4nfo thanks...hope anyone can help... very annoying for me at least....
[19:09] <Topogigio361> Si potrebbero avere informazioni riguardo a (Ubuntu) ,o distribuzioni linux da qualcuno che parli italiano?
[19:09] <k1l_> !it | Topogigio361
[19:10] <cyford> yes it works
[19:10] <cyford>   just keeps rotating  back an forth as to which is being used..
[19:10] <cyford>   in pings and everything
[19:10] <Topogigio361> Thanx
[19:11] <JokesOnYou77> RESPONSE=$(curl -i http://example.com)
[19:11] <JokesOnYou77> SchrodingersScat, echo $RESPONSE only gives the html
[19:15] <SchrodingersScat> JokesOnYou77: hmm, it does seem to give something different, cuts off the date, exprise, etc. not sure why
[19:17] <SchrodingersScat> JokesOnYou77: nvm, and then it worked. : response=$(curl -i http://www.google.com) ; echo "$response" | more
[19:18] <JokesOnYou77> SchrodingersScat, AH HA!!! I was being silly, I forgot the quotes!
[19:18] <JokesOnYou77> Thank you so much
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> JokesOnYou77: great
[19:20] <JokesOnYou77> One more question, is there anyway I can but line breaks in long command calls in scripts?   Worth it?
[19:24] <YokoBR> i mean, i want to install ubuntu on it.
[19:25] <YokoBR> samsung rv415 laptop.
[19:25] <daftykins> well i'd bet you'd have more luck than putting ubuntu on the xbox :P
[19:25] <YokoBR> daftykins ahahhaha
[19:25] <daftykins> but you're going to want to google that model / its' components to check support
[19:26] <guymandude> Is anyone familiar with iRedmail I'm trying to decide to use LDAP or MySQL and want to find out other opinions. We are going to hosting email for multiple domains and want the user to control their said domain.
[19:27] <guymandude> and only their domain
[19:29] <Achirura> hey everyone
[19:29] <guymandude> Hey!
[19:29] <linagee> final beta!
[19:31] <DJones> linagee: You may want tio join #ubuntu+1 if you want to talk about 14.04
[19:31] <Achirura> i have a question about raspberry pi, currently i've installed ubuntu 12.04 to my samsung netbook nc110. problem is its a bit icky at graphics (because of compiz i guess) is raspberry pi results more effective?
[19:31] <guymandude> whehew! pi!
[19:32] <linagee> DJones: ah. everything I say would be slightly unstable in here. :)
[19:32] <guymandude> Achiura, the pi isn't much better.
[19:33] <guymandude> You could buy a Parallela board
[19:33] <Achirura> thank you @Guymandude
[19:34] <guymandude> np :)
[19:34] <Beldar> Achirura, Here you just use the nick no @ you can tab complete nicks.
[19:34] <guymandude> hahahaha! lol Beldar I love the nick!
[19:35] <applepi> Hi all..  I absolutely cannot seem to get SSL working properly on my ubuntu arm build..  however i set it up i cannot wget an https (cannot verify certificate)..  I've tried following every thing online I can find and nothing is helping..  is there any definitive "this is what you need on ubuntu for ssl to work" somewhere?
[19:36] <SchrodingersScat> applepi: are you sure the site you are trying to reach has a certificate that wget can verify?
[19:36] <bazhang> applepi, tried #ubuntu-arm ?
[19:36] <applepi> SchrodingersScat: google.com, right now
[19:37] <Beldar> guymandude, Frank Zappa has a song Coneheads, it's my favorite. ;)
[19:37] <guymandude> Love Zapp!
[19:37] <guymandude> Zappa!
[19:38] <guymandude> My tweezers gleaming in the moonlight!
[19:38] <MayDay__> So I am trying to get ubuntu to run on a old lap top of mine ( a friend conviced to try but no way I'm changing over my desktop without trying it out 1st) and the download went fine. Also the login screen is fine. But once I log in all I get is black boxs on my screen. Can anyone help pls ty <3
[19:39] <applepi> bazhang: I will attempt there as well.  I am still open to input here though.
[19:40] <guymandude> ouch!
[19:40] <guymandude> MayDay__Is your video supported?
[19:41] <guymandude> wait, black boxes?
[19:42] <MayDay__> yes the default back ground is visible and so is the cusor. but I get black boxes. Like is some sort of video card problem?
[19:43] <guymandude> MayDay, I am probably wrong but you might be started in a different desktop, there are multiple desktops , I don't remember the hotkey to switch but you can find out.
[19:44] <MayDay__> Multiple desktops?
[19:44] <jpedroza2k> I have a Dell XPS 17 with the nvidia optimus graphics. It has 2 video out ports (display port and hdmi) and I wanted to know if  Ubuntu has support for Optimus graphics before I went and installed it.
[19:45] <guymandude> One of my legs is longer than the other both my feets too long, They all steps aside as I commit my social suicide. lol
[19:45] <bekks> !optimus
[19:48] <DJones> guymandude: Thats all well and good, but for comments like that, tou might be better joining #ubuntu-offtopic rather than making them in a support only channel
[19:49] <nikolaaa1> Hello.
[19:49] <nikolaaa1> I am using Ubuntu 13.10, and im having a problem wich is in hdd.
[19:49] <nikolaaa1> How do i install applications in different hard drive, since my hard drive is very low on space?
[19:50] <nikolaaa1> Anyone?
[19:50] <jhutchins> nikolaaa1: Move one of your partitions to the new drive.
[19:50] <nikolaaa1> How
[19:51] <jhutchins>   /usr or /home are sometimes good choices.
[19:51] <nikolaaa1> I know how to do it in windows, but not on ubuntu
[19:51] <jhutchins> nikolaaa1: Different OS, different way of dealing with space problems.
[19:51] <nikolaaa1> ugh
[19:51] <llutz> !home | nikolaaa1
[19:53] <nikolaaa1> I Just mounted the partition
[19:53] <nikolaaa1> This will work, right?
[19:55] <KyouReeUs4nfo> applepi: I wonder if reinstalling ca-certificates package will help
[19:56] <guymandude> Sorry DJones had a moment
[19:57] <guymandude> DJones, Still waiting for an answer to my question I posted about 30 min ago
[19:57] <daftykins> guymandude: rudeness will get you nowhere
[19:58] <guymandude> I'm not being rude, sorry if it comes across like that
[19:59] <daftykins> nobody knows the answer, perhaps find somewhere relevant to the product you want to use rather than just the OS you want to use it on
[19:59] <guymandude> I was explaining my Zappa moment.
[19:59] <llutz> guymandude: this is a support channel for ubuntu, for polls and opinions please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:59] <guymandude> daftykins, thanx
[20:01] <KyouReeUs4nfo> guymandude: http://www.iredmail.org/install_iredmail_on_ubuntu.html
[20:05] <JZTech101> .
[20:05] <Scrik> Hi
[20:06] <JZTech101> anyone here familiar with dual booting ubuntu touch on Nexus 7 2013?
[20:06] <k1l_> !touch | JZTech101
[20:07] <JZTech101> no I know. I need help becuase its getting stuck on the clockwork recovery screen when running the script
[20:07] <JZTech101> :/
[20:07] <xar-> what's that old adage, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do something?
[20:08] <nikolaaa1> Ubuntu sucks fuck, done
[20:08] <Scrik> Anyone here ever used Pycharm before?
[20:10] <evanm11> I tried to compile postres from source and deleted but now when I download the postgres package. 1. It installs but returns a seg fault when I try to connect.  Any suggestions?
[20:11] <Prometheian> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a windows machine for dual boot but I keep getting this error: "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu." How do I go about fixing this? I have /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. 1 and 2 are NTFS, 1 is Windows 7 (Loader) and 2 is unnamed.
[20:12] <Scrik> Prometheian: Go back and manipulate the partition manually
[20:12] <joe-w-bimedina_> are you there
[20:13] <Prometheian> Hitting back gives option of replacing windows or doing "something else"
[20:13] <Prometheian> I'm afraid of losing my windows data on the partition window.
[20:14] <joe-w-bimedina_> I was hoping to talk about using 1 function for all vector types
[20:14] <Pici> joe-w-bimedina_: This is #ubuntu, are you sure you're asking in the right channel?
[20:15] <k1l_> Prometheian: first: do a backup
[20:15] <DJones> joe-w-bimedina_: I suspect you're joining the wrong IRC channel, #ubuntu is for the Ubuntu operating system support
[20:16] <pimpim> Hello =D
[20:17] <Beldar> Prometheian, Can you do the backup of windows to be covered? You would resize windows from it's Disk manager leaving a unallocated space for ubuntu
[20:17] <Scrik> Hello pimpim
[20:17] <Prometheian> No easy way to backup, I'll have to check to see if there's good data anywhere.
[20:18] <rww> In general, you should be backing up important data before doing anything like installing Ubuntu :\
[20:18] <k1l_> Prometheian: and i personally recommend to let windows self shrink the windows partitions. see in their disk utily tools for that opion
[20:18] <Beldar> Prometheian, All windows has at the least a one time image/clone option.
[20:18] <Prometheian> I'll try that. :) ty
[20:18] <rww> No process is ever 100% guaranteed flawless.
[20:18] <Prometheian> Issue is having a place to backup to.
[20:18] <Prometheian> :P
[20:18] <k1l_> data without backup is unimportant data.
[20:19] <Prometheian> Ehh, where I work you never know.
[20:19] <Beldar> Prometheian, Ah, well all it will take is a big loss for you to get one, you might do this before that happens. ;)
[20:19] <Prometheian> Legacy data upon legacy datas.
[20:19] <k1l_> your hardware of hdd could break tonight. so backup is not only important for installs
[20:20] <Prometheian> I work for a startup that's budded off of a larger company.  I'm working w/ one of those older laptops.
[20:20] <Lester_> OK here's my problem..... See this first http://imagebin.org/302419 . Now the unkown display is disabled but during the Ubuntu login screen my laptop behaves as though the Unknown display still exists,i.e., my cursor/pointer can go way way way to the right. Why is this happening? Oh yes... my laptop has an NVIDIA GPU and the inbuilt intel 4000 graphics.
[20:20] <Prometheian> I think the newer stuff has backups, and my system can be pulled back from the cloud.
[20:20] <rww> my solution to that sort of thing is to have the user email me saying there's no important data on it before I do it ;)
[20:20] <Prometheian> I am the "user" in this case ^^
[20:20] <yeats> Prometheian: in that case, you should back up (just in case) and install ubuntu without dual booting (IMHO)
[20:21] <Prometheian> I run a piece of software on the windows side occasionally for our regression testing so kinda wanna keep it around.
[20:21] <Prometheian> That software has backups, but just having the additional system is useful.
[20:22] <yeats> Prometheian: run Windows in a VM on the new Ubuntu install
[20:22] <Prometheian> Oh that just sounds awful. :P
[20:22] <Prometheian> But checking data now, might just format the whole thing to be done w/ it.
[20:24] <Beldar> Prometheian, Dualbooting is rather easy once you know how.
[20:25] <tiblock> Hi. I have ubuntu 12 server and "apt-get upgrade" says that he can upgrade nginx. Where i can see changelog to see why there is new version in ubuntu?
[20:26] <Prometheian> Just checked w/ co-worker, I'm green to format. :D
[20:26] <llutz> tiblock: apt-get changelog packagename
[20:27] <tiblock> llutz, that was easy. Thank you.
[20:27] <Beldar> Prometheian, Heh, that makes life easier, wipe it and install.
[20:27] <Beldar> or install over
[20:28] <Prometheian> install over!
[20:29] <Prometheian> My only issue w/ Ubuntu is that the close buttons are on the left.
[20:30] <k1l_> Prometheian: there is a setting in unity-tweak-tool for that
[20:31] <DJones> !controls | Prometheian I'm not sure how valid this is now, could well be out of date,
[20:32] <Prometheian> ah ha...
[20:32] <Prometheian> I'll try to get what I want out of unity tweak tool
[20:33] <DJones> Prometheian: Go with k1l_' suggestion first rather than the bots link
[20:33] <Beldar> Prometheian, You can change that in the dconf-editor
[20:33] <Prometheian> I'll come asking once it's done installing :D
[20:33] <Beldar> gconf if 12.04
[20:33] <Prometheian> is 12.04
[20:34] <k1l_> !away > Thorium220
[20:35] <Beldar> Prometheian, Good, gconf will change the side the buttons are on, be sure to use others nicks when responding to them, nicks can be tab completed.
[20:35] <Prometheian> what?
[20:36] <Beldar> !who | Prometheian
[20:36] <Prometheian> Ah. kk will do :)
[20:36] <Prometheian> beldar
[20:36] <Prometheian> :P
[20:36] <Beldar> Prometheian, Notice this post to you starts with your nick.
[20:36] <Prometheian> yeh
[20:36] <Beldar> yeah thats it
[20:37] <maujhsn> Currently watching a vid that using h264  video codec & pcm_s16le audio codec want to convert to mp4 using same audio...Whats the ffmpeg command?
[20:38] <Beldar> Prometheian, On occasion more than one is trying to help, it just keeps things tight and related.
[20:38] <BrosephNamath> Is there any specific log I can check for random hard locks? And if so, what should I be looking for
[20:39] <bazhang> maujhsn, try in ##ffmpeg
[20:39] <BrosephNamath> Is there any specific log I can check for random hard locks? And if so, what should I be looking for
[20:40] <maujhsn> bazhang Yeah right sorry! :)
[20:40] <Beldar> BrosephNamath, We see you, the channel ask for 10min post repeats.
[20:40] <BrosephNamath> Sorry, my apologies
[20:40] <Beldar> no biggie
[20:41] <KyouReeUs4nfo> BrosephNamath: what are hard locks? You mean lock files?
[20:41] <BrosephNamath> the device locking up, becoming unresponsive
[20:42] <MayDay__> hmmm still black boxes... hotkeys seem to work and i can change my background lol
[20:42] <KyouReeUs4nfo> BrosephNamath: Does dmesg show relevant logs?
[20:42] <Beldar> BrosephNamath, How much memory do you have, and could it be swapping?
[20:43] <BrosephNamath> It seems to be at random times, I also just let the device sit by itself while making sure no CPU/RAM intensive processes were running
[20:44] <jpedroza2k> BrosephNamath, I have been getting that a lot in the last few weeks (or at least something similar) and then a crash in Chrome.
[20:45] <BrosephNamath> I'm leaning towards failing RAM modules
[20:45] <plm> Hi all
[20:45] <artkayek> hi
[20:45] <plm> I'm running ubuntu 13.10 and I would like to change between six terminals in a quickly way, the ALT+TAB is not a good for that.. Any sugestion?
[20:45] <BrosephNamath> HACK ALL OF THE THINGS
[20:45] <KyouReeUs4nfo> BrosephNamath: what kernel are you running?
[20:45] <BrosephNamath> 12.04
[20:45] <plm> I would like for terminal to do like as I do for the four Desktops using CTRL+ALT+ARROW, see?
[20:45] <BrosephNamath> sorry
[20:46] <plm> liek as in workspaces, but for the temrinals
[20:46] <artkayek> plm > You want shortcut keys to your erminals
[20:46] <plm> artkayek: how I do that shortcuts?
[20:46] <artkayek> I'm not sure I have the answer, but I think I can give you some links
[20:47] <BrosephNamath> I'm actually running a custom kernel
[20:47] <artkayek> What DE are you running?
[20:47] <BrosephNamath> So I'm gonna have a word with maintainer to see what the deal is
[20:47] <k1l_> BrosephNamath: then use a plain ubuntu with a supported kernel.
[20:47] <plm> artkayek: DE?
[20:47] <artkayek> Gnome , unity, xfce, kde , lkde ?
[20:47] <plm> artkayek: unity
[20:47] <BrosephNamath> k1l_ | Definitely not a supported kernel haha
[20:47] <artkayek> I'll start some searches but I'm not familiar with unity :)
[20:49] <artkayek> plm > Have you read http://askubuntu.com/questions/65263/shortcut-to-select-a-terminal-window
[20:49] <BrosephNamath> I just want to know if there
[20:49] <BrosephNamath> is a kern log, or sys log I can browse through to see what may have caused the lockups
[20:50] <k1l_> BrosephNamath: depends on your ubuntu. and i am not really thinking you are running an ubuntu at all
[20:51] <BrosephNamath> I am, just a highly modified version of it
[20:51] <k1l_> so please ask the "highly modifier" to help you out in that case.
[20:51] <artkayek> plm > ?
[20:52] <BrosephNamath> well, lets just say I had 12.04
[20:52] <bazhang> BrosephNamath, aurora OS
[20:52] <rww> BrosephNamath: Let's not.
[20:53] <k1l_> BrosephNamath: pelase ask aurora OS support. thank you for sticking with the guidelines
[20:53] <rww> BrosephNamath: #ubuntu supports Ubuntu. Derivatives of Ubuntu make changes to it that we don't know about, so we don't support them, just like #debian doesn't support Ubuntu users. Contact your distribution for support.
[20:53] <BrosephNamath> rww: O
[20:54] <BrosephNamath> if a normal Ubuntu system was freezing up randomly, what logs would I check to troubleshoot the cause
[20:55] <artkayek> Hmm did Brosephwhatshisname just get booted?
[20:56] <kostkon> artkayek, y twice
[20:56] <artkayek> Okay, new to this. Thx.
[21:00] <Guest67635> I'm on the ubuntu live CD, trying to resize my partitions - how do i go about adding an "unallocated partition" to my linux ext4 partition
[21:00] <MayDay__> Ok still cant get this thing to run haha. Running 12.04 lts. downloaded fine. log in screen is perfect but once i log in i am still getting black boxs. they move around at random when i click.
[21:00] <Guest67635> MayDay__: sounds a lot like a bad driver or a horrible video card
[21:01] <Guest67635> try using another video card driver
[21:01] <MayDay__> i assume its a driver issue but cant mess with the drivers because i cant get anything to open lol
[21:01] <Guest67635> hm
[21:01] <artkayek> Guest67635 : where does the unallocated partition come from?
[21:01] <Guest67635> artkayek: my windows parition
[21:01] <Guest67635> i resized it
[21:01] <artkayek> Using gparted? How did you resize it?
[21:02] <Guest67635> yes
[21:02] <Guest67635> using gparted
[21:02] <Guest67635> it says the operation is still going
[21:02] <Guest67635> but i don't hear my harddisk working hard or anything :P
[21:03] <artkayek> What do you mean by "still going"? From my experience and memory (the latter may be wron) gparted should allow you to drag-and-drop sizes of the partition when on the same disk.
[21:03] <artkayek> Do you know if you have a LVM?
[21:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> MayDay_: Did you login to Openbox ?
[21:04] <Guest67635> artkayek: LVM?
[21:04] <artkayek> Logical Volume Manager...
[21:05] <MayDay__> i just installed using wubi. did a standard install. No problems now im here
[21:05] <tasslehoff> Can you normally upgrade directly from one LTS release to another?
[21:05] <bekks> tasslehoff: yes.
[21:06] <Guest67635> artkayek: by still going i meant it's still shrinking my windows partition, no i doubt i have an LVM i don't really know what that is
[21:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> MayDay_: Well, welcome :)
[21:06] <tasslehoff> bekks: great. I think my server deserves the upgrade come 14.04 :)
[21:06] <MayDay__> Well thank you but its not going all that well :P
[21:06] <artkayek> Okay, so gparted is currently shrinking your windows partition , probably NTFS?
[21:06] <bekks> tasslehoff: 12.04 is supported until 2017, so dont hurry :)
[21:06] <Guest67635> yes
[21:07] <Guest67635> the UI shows it as an unallocated piece though, as if i can change it while the operation is going
[21:07] <artkayek> Well I believe you have to wait until it's ready
[21:07] <MayDay__> maybe i should just reinstall?
[21:07] <artkayek> It's what I do.
[21:07] <Guest67635> hmm
[21:07] <Guest67635> what would i do afterward?
[21:08] <plm> artkayek: I'm using temrinator, very good
[21:08] <KyouReeUs4nfo> MayDay_: why?
[21:08] <Guest67635> i tried rezising my linux partition but it wont let me expand it
[21:08] <plm> *terminator
[21:08] <Lester_> umm
[21:08] <Guest67635> maybe it will after it's done i don't know
[21:08] <tasslehoff> bekks: I won't. happy with everything except I need a new version of plex media server, and the repos for 12.04 seems to be done with updating
[21:09] <Lester_> OK here's my problem..... See this first http://imagebin.org/302419 . Now the unkown display is disabled in the settings but during the Ubuntu login screen my laptop behaves as though the Unknown display still exists,i.e., my cursor/pointer can go way way way to the right. Why is this happening? Oh yes... my laptop has an NVIDIA GPU and the inbuilt Intel 4000 graphics.
[21:09] <Lester_> Why is this happening??
[21:09] <artkayek> The disk is currently resizing itself , moving files across the disk. When it's ready you should be able to use the freed space and assign it to another partition. Gparted lets you do that easely by drag-and-dropping the arrow-like graphical representation of the partition. Let me google an example.
[21:10] <Guest67635> artkayek: ok
[21:11] <Guest67635> thank god i don't have to do this in the terminal -.- would have given up and formatted everything by now haha
[21:11] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Check this link : : /dev/sda6 is selected , you should be able to click on the left-or-right borders of it and drag-and-drop it size : http://i.imgur.com/xNm3q.png
[21:12] <artkayek> 22:13 < Guest67635> artkayek: ok
[21:12] <Guest67635> artkayek: ok yeah that's what i thought, going to have to wait for it to finish then i guess
[21:12] <Lester_> Umm anyone???
[21:13] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Yes you cannot re-assign the underlying magnetized sectors etc to a new partition untill gparted has made sure none of your Windows files are on it (it is moving all of them to some corner of your dis)
[21:13] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Lester_:http://www.thetechrepo.com/main-articles/502-how-to-change-the-primary-monitor-in-ubuntu-or-other-linux-distributions
[21:14] <artkayek> disk*
[21:14] <Guest67635> artkayek: yeah
[21:14] <Lester_> KyouReeUs4nfo: Thanks!!
[21:14] <Guest67635> artkayek: this is going to take awhile too, i never defragmented my windows partition haha
[21:14] <danopia> Lester_: disable the one that you don't want primary
[21:14] <danopia> then enable again
[21:15] <danopia> that change should be lasting
[21:15] <danopia> the xrandr one will reset each time you detach and re-attach the monitor
[21:15] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Check out the middle and last part of this tutorial : http://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/
[21:16] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Hope this helps
[21:17] <Lester_> danopia: Will this also take care of the trouble during Login?
[21:17] <danopia> no idea
[21:17] <Guest67635> artkayek: ok, i'll let you know how it's going when i'm able to try, thanks :P
[21:20] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Great problem-solving approach by asking why 5 times:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Whys
[21:20] <artkayek> Guest67635 : I'll try to be here for you :) But this should be really straight-forward
[21:21] <Lester_> I feel that Ubuntu drans a lot of my laptop's battery than Win7? Is it just me or do I have t do some tweaking?? Is there some power settings profiles that I have to set up??
[21:21] <Lester_> *drains
[21:22] <seednode> There are some tweaks you can do to improve battery life
[21:22] <michaelaguiar> how can I figure out what vpn service is running on an ubuntu box?
[21:22] <artkayek> KyouReeUs4nfo : Kruger-Dunning ;)
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Lester_: Intel processor ?
[21:23] <Lester_> Bashing-om: Yes
[21:24] <seednode> michaelaguiar, maybe with "ps aux | grep vpn" or something similar?
[21:24] <artkayek> KyouReeUs4nfo : Joking , off course :)
[21:24] <KyouReeUs4nfo> artkayek: applies to everyone
[21:24] <artkayek> KyouReeUs4nfo : I'm probably the #1 patient :)
[21:24] <michaelaguiar> seednode: all I get is: 1001     26146  0.0  0.0   9388   932 pts/0    S+   14:24   0:00 grep --color=auto vpn — no matter what I type
[21:24] <KyouReeUs4nfo> artkayek: it is necessary
[21:25] <seednode> michaelaguiar, was just a random guess
[21:25] <michaelaguiar> cool
[21:25] <seednode> but it's only returning itself every time, so no dice
[21:26] <Lester_> I also see that the air coming out of the vent is quite hotter than normal. And the palmrest just at the right of the Touchpad is quite hot...
[21:26] <Bashing-om> Lester_: Consider, as a maybe only ! i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 -> see:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks <- .
[21:26] <guest_59275> Could someone explain what he means by "in nautilus just rt cl and remove"? It's at the bottom of the page at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1896756
[21:26] <Lester_> Bashing-om: This may also be due to that fact that I am running the open source (Nouveau) drivers for my GPU...
[21:27] <seednode> guest_59275, he's saying right-click and select remove
[21:27] <seednode> But that's not an answer that makes sense
[21:27] <seednode> Just clarifying for yoyu
[21:27] <SuperLag> If you're going to install the Nvidia BLOB driver, which package should you be installing?
[21:27] <SuperLag> (versus just sticking with nouveau)
[21:28] <Bashing-om> Lester_: In many cases with the later releases, the open source driver performs better. Lots of info required for additional advise.
[21:28] <guest_59275> seednode: Ha, thanks!
[21:28] <Bashing-om> Lester_: Intel supports thier hardware very well in linux !
[21:29] <seednode> guest_59275, I only use thunar, so can't really help with the actual questions though
[21:30] <Lester_> Bashing-om: I have NVIDIA GT630 as well as intel 4000 graphics. Should I install proprietary drivers or Bumblebee??
[21:31] <Beldar> SuperLag, What release are you running?
[21:31] <Lester_> oops
[21:31] <guest_59275> seednode: No problem. I have an old 8.04 install that I can't upgrade right now and it would be helpful if I could add a folder to the "places" menu. But when I drag it there, it always creates/adds "bookmarks" and goes below that. I wanted it under "places" directly, but it's not a big deal, a couple extra clicks. Don't worry about it. Thanks for the help.
[21:32] <Beldar> guest_59275, 8.04 is eol and not supported.
[21:32] <SuperLag> Beldar: 14.04
[21:32] <seednode> He did say don't worry about it any more, at the end
[21:32] <seednode> so I think he's saying he'll deal with it
[21:33] <SuperLag> Beldar: and before you (or anyone else, for that matter) refer me to #ubuntu+1... I'm in that channel already, and have asked that question. :)
[21:33] <Bashing-om> Lester_: with switchable grahics, there is a great debate as to what is better, BumbleBEE, Nvidia-Prime, Open Source -> (13.10 ->https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics ).
[21:33] <Beldar> seednode, Okat then it is of topic.
[21:33] <seednode> Beldar, he was literally just responding to me helping him, it's fine
[21:33] <k1l_> SuperLag: you know 14.04 has BETA labled all over it. with red warning signs etc?
[21:34] <guest_59275> Thanks to all for helping.
[21:41] <terminator-ce> oi
[21:46] <SuperLag> k1l_: yep, and not worried about it. Been using it for weeks, without issue.
[21:47] <k1l_> SuperLag: then you know for weeks, that the channel for that is #ubuntu+1
[21:47] <Artemis3> SuperLag, packages starting win nvidia in their name
[21:48] <Artemis3> with
[21:51] <jrk> hello?
[21:52] <jrk> clear
[21:52] <fibz_> K
[21:53] <jrk> so I'm pretty new to ubuntu, even more so to irc. Can you see what I'm typing?
[21:53] <DJones> jrk: Yes the channel can see what you're typing
[21:54] <jrk> Ahh cool, thank you
[21:55] <KyouReeUs4nfo> SuperLag: Try proprietary driver if unhappy with performance of current nvidia open-source driver
[21:56] <mediawork> hi
[21:56] <ekodauhm> hi
[21:56] <mediawork> ok Im freaking out, something bad with the filesystem I think, not sure how I can find out though.
[21:57] <fibz_> can you provide more details?
[21:57] <mediawork> sometime, my /tmp/ folder hangs up completely , turns to "read only filesystem"
[21:57] <fibz_> check the SMART logs and make sure the hard drive isnt dieing
[21:58] <mediawork> fibz_, under /var/*
[21:58] <mediawork> ?
[21:59] <nekonoko> Anyone knows if there is going to be better support for switchable graphics in the next version of Ubuntu?
[21:59] <TJ-> mediawork: Is /tmp/ a separate file-system on persistent storage, or is it a tmpfs ?
[21:59] <mediawork> TJ-,  it is part of sda1  "/"
[21:59] <mediawork> not tmpfs.
[22:00] <TJ-> mediawork: OK. To check the drive health "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[22:00] <mediawork> TJ-,  this has happened before, and ubuntu did diskchecks on reboot, fixing it automatically
[22:00] <Bashing-om> nekonoko: see: -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics <- .
[22:00] <fibz_> http://www.howtoforge.com/checking-hard-disk-sanity-with-smartmontools-debian-ubuntu  mediawork
[22:01] <fibz_> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/TocDoc#Tutorials
[22:02] <TJ-> mediawork: If /tmp/ is in the root file-system, and that is remounted read-only because of errors, then you should look in "/var/log/kern.log" for any sign of I/O errors
[22:03] <mediawork> TJ-,  thanks - ok smart says SMART Disabled. Use option -s with argument 'on' to enable it.
[22:03] <TJ-> mediawork: "sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sda" then repeat the "-a" test
[22:04] <mediawork> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
[22:05] <TJ-> mediawork: That's helpful. So... has the remount read-only just happened, or was it some time ago? We need to pin down the time-period to help you find any related warnings/errors in the log files
[22:06] <mediawork> TJ-,  it just did... at the same time my firefox crashed.
[22:06] <mediawork> TJ-,    ill look at the kernel log now
[22:07] <TJ-> mediawork: Great! OK, can you start a terminal shell and then do "sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit" and give us the URL of the pastebin it provides?
[22:08] <adac> guys what is the keyboard key "C" on my tv remote?
[22:08] <clue_h> 1
[22:09] <mediawork> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7170963/
[22:09] <mediawork> or this one
[22:09] <mediawork> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7170967/
[22:11] <mediawork> TJ-,  those times are strange.... 08:12 this is not my system time currently
[22:12] <TJ-> mediawork: Hmmm, if /var/ is on the root-filesystem too, then it can't be written to.
[22:12] <mediawork> TJ-,   but my computer has been running since this morning, maybe 0812 is when it hung up the root
[22:13] <mediawork> TJ-,    I should have put /var/ on its own partition.
[22:15] <TJ-> mediawork: Try "sudo mount -o remount,rw /"
[22:15] <TJ-> mediawork: That should at least give you a read-write FS if it isn't broken.
[22:15] <TJ-> mediawork: It would be best to reboot though, and let the file-system checker run
[22:15] <mediawork> TJ-,   but is it an ok idea.
[22:16] <mediawork> TJ-,  should I have ubuntu reboot and do diskchecks first?
[22:16] <TJ-> mediawork: Yes, that would be best
[22:16] <mediawork> right
[22:16] <KyouReeUs4nfo> What kind of errors should have to occur for mounting the filesystem as readonly filesystem? Referring to errors=remount-ro in fstab.
[22:17] <jdm> are the X.org AMD video wrappers faster than the propiertary AMD drivers?
[22:17] <mediawork> KyouReeUs4nfo,  right, I have that too...
[22:17] <mediawork> KyouReeUs4nfo,   I wonder what errors
[22:18] <TJ-> KyouReeUs4nfo: I/O errors, mainly
[22:18] <sudormrf> would anyone care to take a look at my script and help me figure out why it isn't working correctly?
[22:18] <TJ-> sudormrf: What have you broke now? :P
[22:18] <TJ-> sudormrf: go on :)
[22:18] <KyouReeUs4nfo> TJ-: I wouldn't know until it happens to me I guess.
[22:18] <sudormrf> TJ-, hehe.  let me pastebin it
[22:19] <mediawork> KyouReeUs4nfo,   which are hardware problems?  or kernel bugs?
[22:19] <sudormrf> doh.  I think I know why
[22:19] <sudormrf> hang on
[22:19]  * TJ- waves a magic wand over sudormrf's scripts and they start working :)
[22:20] <Guest67635> I think I can grab an overnight flight to Italy, drink a nice gallong of expresso coffee, grab a flight back to NA and STILL this gparted partition resizing will not be done.
[22:20] <sudormrf> TJ-, you are a magic man.  or woman.  I don't know which gender you are, but if my reasoning is right, this should be good :D
[22:20] <mediawork> TJ-,  btw,  could you also look at my smartctl output just to be sure,...   http://paste.ubuntu.com/7171015/
[22:20] <mediawork> TJ-,   some RAW values are on Pre-fail...
[22:21] <mediawork> TJ-,   and kinda high compared to the thresholds...
[22:21] <sudormrf> ok, let me run again
[22:21] <mediawork> TJ-,  or maybe im not reading that table correctly
[22:22] <midnightmagic> Hi! I am trying to manually link gtk+-1.2 into a test program. I am on Ubuntu 12.04. I have ia32-libs installed. When I run: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -D_REENTRANT   test.c -L/usr/lib -lgtk -lglib -lX11 -lm -lgdk -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -lglib; I get the following output (among others): /usr/lib/libgdk.so: undefined reference to `XShmDetach'. But! objdump -tT
[22:22] <sudormrf> TJ-, also, the reason I keep breaking stuff is so I can learn your magic powers :P
[22:22] <midnightmagic> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6.4.0 |grep -i ShmDetach:<PHONE_NUMBER>0088c0 g    DF .text<PHONE_NUMBER>0000bb  Base        XShmDetach
[22:22] <midnightmagic> What's the magic incantation to get it to link against Xext properly?
[22:22] <TJ-> mediawork: The one to watch is "Reallocated_Sector_Ct" and that's 0 so I'd say for 10000 power-on hours that is great!
[22:22] <TJ-> sudormrf: :D
[22:22] <harushimo> can anyone suggest an good ide for python? I'm using ninja but it keeps crashing on me
[22:23] <TJ-> mediawork: unfortunately, the way the drive's SMART values are stored in raw form, and their adjusted values, work, one doesn't correlate easily to the other! Blame a committee that designed them for that
[22:23] <mediawork> TJ-,  right... however, maybe there is something wrong with the reallocation code on my disk... so it doesnt reallocate, and using rubbish faulty sectors anyway
[22:23] <harushimo> I'm using ubuntu
[22:23] <TJ-> mediawork: If you find errrors being spat out by the kernel saying I/O error, failed to reallocate sector... then possibly.
[22:23] <osolus_> on a fresh installation of kubuntu, I upgraded thinking the wifi would work better and now I can't log in and it's supposed to login automaticallly..
[22:24] <OerHeks> !ide
[22:24] <lotuspsychje> harushimo: software centre got IDE section, maybe there?
[22:24] <harushimo> I want a good IDE for python in ubuntu. I'm currently using ninja but it keeps crashing on me
[22:24] <mediawork> TJ-,  maybe I can read the serial number of my disk and check if it has known problems somewhere?
[22:24] <harushimo> does it
[22:24] <harushimo> I didn't know that
[22:24] <midnightmagic> harushimo: Komodo maybe?
[22:24] <TJ-> mediawork: reboot, let it do the fsck.
[22:24] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Hi, this has been a few phonecalls :)
[22:24] <harushimo> I can stick with vim
[22:24] <mediawork> TJ-,  i thought sector reallocation by the disk was virtual... the kernel wouldnt even notice
[22:24] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Resizing disks can be tedious indeed
[22:25] <harushimo> I need to get more familiar integrated development environment
[22:25] <mediawork> TJ-,  if all is good
[22:25] <sudormrf> TJ-, ok, my idea didn't work.
[22:25] <sudormrf> let me paste the script
[22:25] <TJ-> mediawork: If you have space on that device for another file-system, or could temporarily plug in a spare USB flash device, you could create a separate /var/ file-system so you can capture the logs even when rootfs goes read-only
[22:25] <lotuspsychje> harushimo: check software centre for the dev section
[22:25] <harushimo> i am. thank you
[22:25] <TJ-> mediawork: It can go both ways, but if the kernel spots a problem it can ask the drive to reallocate.
[22:25] <artkayek> Guest67635 : I usually go out for a drink when I'm resizing a laptop. When its a SDD its not the same thing off course
[22:26] <artkayek> SS*
[22:26] <artkayek> SSD*
[22:26] <mediawork> TJ-,   ok... mind you... I should mention this...   a couple of months ago, similar thing happened... after two attempts to fix the filesystem... I lost recently edited data on my /home
[22:26] <mediawork> TJ-,  it was completely gone.
[22:26] <TJ-> mediawork: Is /home/ in the same file-system as rootfs ?
[22:26] <mediawork> TJ-,  and only folders I had been working on for a couple of days
[22:27] <jjavaholic> numlock LED light keeps turning off and high CPU usage
[22:27] <mediawork> TJ-,  no.
[22:27] <TJ-> mediawork: That sounds like the FS lost the journal of pending commits
[22:27] <mediawork> TJ-,   it is same disk separate partition
[22:27] <mediawork> TJ-,  ext4!
[22:27] <sudormrf> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7171057/  the script works fine if I execute it.  The tmp file is created if I execute it or not.  the temp file has the correct information in it, however when I receive the email it is missing the "body".  Thoughts?
[22:27] <TJ-> mediawork: But /home/ is on the same physical disk... OK... well it could be a disk error, it could be cable error, a controller error, or a memory module sticky-bit error
[22:28] <TJ-> mediawork: You won't know until you can capture the kernel log showing what is happening to force the rootfs to be remounted
[22:28] <mediawork> TJ-,  ok thanks!
[22:28] <mediawork> TJ-,   so, what the kernel did in my case... it remounted... then tried to log why...
[22:28] <mediawork> TJ-,  instead of log what happened, then remount
[22:28] <sudormrf> TJ-, I thought it was a permissions thing on the tmp folder, but that turned out to be wrong
[22:29] <TJ-> mediawork: It can't log if the file-system the log is on has problems :)
[22:29] <TJ-> mediawork: hence why I recommend providing a separate file-system on another device as a temporary measure until it happens again
[22:30] <mediawork> TJ-,  yeah,.... hear my system admins at work tell me to do that before :S
[22:30] <mediawork> TJ-,  now I will
[22:30] <TJ-> sudormrf: how about doing what I do... having the script echo the commands it is about to run to a log-file so you can also check how the env vars were expanded?
[22:30] <OerHeks> sudormrf, maybe a typo in line #5 echo "Transmission finished downloading "\$TR_TORRENT_NAME\" on $TR_TIME_LOCALTIME" >>$TMPFILE
[22:30] <sudormrf> TJ-, I just tweaked the script to write to a txt file instead.  just in case ssmtp was freaking out on the tmp file.  testing it again.
[22:30] <mediawork> TJ-,  ok ,, going to reboot ... thanks for the pointers and looking at my logs..
[22:31] <sudormrf> OerHeks, if it is a typo wouldn't the tmpfile that it creates not have any valuable data?
[22:31] <sudormrf> TJ-, will try that in a sec.
[22:32] <TJ-> sudormrf: I think I see your problem.
[22:32] <sudormrf> OerHeks, what I mean is, in the TMPFILE it generates you see all the correct information.  when I get the email the subject line is filled in.  it's just the body that is blank
[22:32] <sudormrf> TJ-, oh?
[22:32] <TJ-> sudormrf: Email body must be separated from the HEADERS by at least ONE empty line
[22:33] <sudormrf> TJ-, hmm. how do I insert a break?
[22:33] <TJ-> sudormrf: "echo" between lines 4 and 5
[22:33] <sudormrf> TJ-, ok.  let me give that a go.
[22:33] <TJ-> sudormrf: "echo >> $TMPFILE" to be precise
[22:33] <sudormrf> TJ-, k.  thanks.  let me try it.
[22:34] <TJ-> sudormrf: I bet if you look at the raw source of the emails you've received, you'll see the line beginning "Tranmission..." in the headers
[22:34] <sudormrf> TJ-, I would be you are right :)
[22:37] <ghostnik11> hi i need help getting my bluetooth to work
[22:37] <ghostnik11> i am running ubuntu 13.04 and my computer is a lenovo ideapad s400
[22:37] <adac> I added a move to the path were all movies reside, however it is not shown in the menu point movies. How can I add it there? Do I have to make another scan and where is this done?
[22:38] <sudormrf> TJ-, that did the trick :D
[22:38] <TJ-> sudormrf: :)
[22:38] <sudormrf> TJ-, magic wand strikes again!
[22:41] <ghostnik11> please help i don't have much internet time left
[22:41] <sudormrf> TJ-, almost done with this project.  I think I have learned more about linux in the last year than I have in the last 7 lol
[22:41] <ghostnik11> how can i get my internal bluetooth to work in ubuntu 13.04, my computer is lenovo s400
[22:42] <TJ-> sudormrf: Yeah, you can never learn it all either... there's always more
[22:42] <Beldar> ghostnik11, 13.04 is end of life.
[22:42] <KyouReeUs4nfo> TJ- : how to go about adding filesystem on another device? like install ubuntu on it from scratch?
[22:42] <sudormrf> TJ-, and that is awesome :).  I love it.  The more I learn about it the more I want to do with it.  Which in turn leads me to breaking more things, fixing them and learning more.  LOL
[22:42] <ghostnik11> Beldar, i am in school in a different country and won't be able to download the new ubuntu, i have to work with what i have for now
[22:43] <TJ-> ghost64: First, identify how the BT module is presented - USB, PCI, or other, then ensure it's rfkill is not active, and the adapter should show up with "hcitool dev"
[22:43] <ghostnik11> Beldar, is there anyway i can get it to work, i just downloaded the linux-firmwar nofree
[22:43] <TJ-> sudormrf: Don't break mine :p
[22:43] <sudormrf> TJ-, haha.  I can't promise anything :P
[22:44] <Beldar> ghostnik11, No idea on the bluetooth, never use it.
[22:44] <ghostnik11> TJ-, it gives me a blank when i run hcitool
[22:45] <ghostnik11> TJ-, says its not soft or hard blocked
[22:45] <ghostnik11> thats what the rkill command said
[22:45] <TJ-> ghostnik11: OK... are you sure the laptop does have a BT device installed? I've seen many times people trying to do this and then finding out that there is no BT device installed, despite what the laptop specifications say
[22:45] <TJ-> ghostnik11: OK, so rfkill can see it?
[22:45] <ghostnik11> TJ-, it had one when i had windows 8
[22:45] <TJ-> ghostnik11: does rfkill show it as "hci0" ?
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 0: ideapad_wlan: Wireless LAN
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Hard blocked: no
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 1: ideapad_bluetooth: Bluetooth
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Hard blocked: no
[22:46] <unopaste`> ghostnik11 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 2: phy0: Wireless LAN
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Hard blocked: no
[22:46] <unopaste`> ghostnik11 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:46] <PreSSion> hello guys! here a silly question, I have got docx text with hyperlinks, but these don't work on ubuntu for the absolute path rute on windows is different,... is there some way to do a path for hyperlink compatible for any OS?
[22:47] <adriano> hi
[22:47] <TJ-> ghostnik11: This might help you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/239827/how-do-i-enable-bluetooth-on-my-lenovo-ideapad-z580
[22:51] <PreSSion> hello guys! here a silly question, I have got docx text with hyperlinks, but these don't work on ubuntu for the absolute path rute on windows is different,... is there some way to do a path for hyperlink compatible for any OS?
[22:53] <awesomess3> PreSSion, the only way I can think of is through relative paths, for example, myfile.html, ../a_dir/whatever.html, a_dir/b_dir/whatever.html
[22:53] <PreSSion> yes, i know and i tried, but LO don't let me do it
[22:53] <PreSSion> thanks anyway!
[22:54] <PreSSion> and that wouldn't help, cuz the relative path in windows is diferent :(
[22:54] <PreSSion> thanks
[22:56] <TJ-> PreSSion: Will this help?  http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/3888/is-it-possible-to-link-images-relatively-to-document/
[22:57] <PreSSion> i going to see... thanks!
[22:59] <Sashmo_> anyone in here have luck playing with USB 3g/LTE modems and linux?  I'm having a hard time getting the device to assign a IP from the ISP via the modem
[23:00] <TJ-> Sashmo_: what device is it? how is it presenting (GSM serial, or CDC Ether) ?
[23:00] <Sashmo_> its a sierra wireless usb
[23:01] <Sashmo_> not sure if its cdc or gsm serial
[23:02] <TJ-> Sashmo_: Does Network manager list it as a WWAN or Wired interface maybe?
[23:02] <Sashmo_> drviers are intsalled, and I can access the network manager to set it up, and I can even make a connection to it via the GUI, but no connection out, looks like there is no IP address being assigned to the interface
[23:02] <Sashmo_> it shows as mobile broadband
[23:03] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Sashmo_: is the bill paid? just curious.
[23:03] <TJ-> Sashmo_: OK, that'll be a serial device most likely. You've configured the PC to get an IP via DHCP? It is likely the APN settings are causing a problem. Who is the mobile service provider?
[23:03] <Sashmo_> apn is correct.... double checked it
[23:04] <Sashmo_> and when I add the dhcp option in /etc/network/interfaces, I loose all my network settings and loose the device in the network manager
[23:04] <sudormrf> TJ-, last question for now.  do you know if there is a way to run multiple scripts after completion in transmission?  I have it running one, but suppose I wanted it to run two or three?.  I know I could combine the three into one, but having the separate makes my OCD feel better.
[23:05] <ikonia> why are you messing with the interfaces file if you are using network manager ?
[23:05] <TJ-> Sashmo_: That's to be expected - NM won't manage an interface you manually configure
[23:05] <TJ-> sudormrf: Have one that calls the others?
[23:05] <sudormrf> TJ-, oh.  clever.  ok.  that will work :D
[23:06] <TJ-> sudormrf: If you look in the "/etc/" directory, you'll see many sub-dirs ending in ".d/" ... we use those as stores for lots of scripts/configs we want to run based on the same trigger, e.g. "/etc/udev/rules.d/"
[23:07] <jon1> Does anyone know how to disable workspace in ubuntu?
[23:07] <Doxin> uwsgi just shows "Python application not found" in browser, no error logged at all. what's the next step in debugging?
[23:07] <jon1> 12.04
[23:07] <sudormrf> TJ-, these scripts are in a different directory, but thank you for the tip.  I will look in there for examples :D.
[23:07] <KyouReeUs4nfo> jon1: you may need to configure openbox for that
[23:08] <ggh> I have a pc running and have been able to ssh into it. I installed fail2ban and denyhosts and then wasn't able to ssh anymore so I uninstalled both and restarted the pc but I still can't ssh in
[23:09] <sudormrf> Time to test it again.  I really wish I could find a smaller linux ISO torrent lol.  grabbing the arch ISO.  527mb.  was hoping I could find a torrent file for puppy linux.  I couldn't.  tried TCL too.  boo :).
[23:09] <jon1> dam, is there a command to bring all the windows to the current workspace?
[23:09] <TJ-> sudormrf: You could use the same scheme, and then in your control script do something like "for script in /path/to/my/scripts.d/; do source $script; done"
[23:09] <PreSSion> mmm, althought the option is activate, this still failling
[23:10] <PreSSion> I have got docx text with hyperlinks, but these don't work on ubuntu for the absolute path rute on windows is different,... is there some way to do a path for hyperlink compatible for any OS? I activate the relative option box, but this still fail
[23:11] <sudormrf> TJ-, oooh. fancy.  right now I just added "sh ./scriptname.sh" since it is executing from the same folder.
[23:13] <KyouReeUs4nfo> jon1:not sure but if you press ALT+F2, you can see what commands are available to you.
[23:15] <sudormrf> TJ-, well that didn't work.  just changed it to exec "/path/to/script.sh" see if that works.
[23:15] <weblordpepe> holy crap
[23:16] <weblordpepe> 1562 nicks
[23:16] <jpds> weblordpepe: Peanuts.
[23:16] <weblordpepe> how is the ubuntu community these days?
[23:17] <jpds> weblordpepe: How is the weather outside?
[23:17] <weblordpepe> i've been off-planet for quite a while now.
[23:17] <jpds> weblordpepe: That's basically what you're asking. ;-)
[23:17] <weblordpepe> good good. im on planet debian-based-mint now.
[23:17] <sudormrf> that worked
[23:17] <sudormrf> :D
[23:18]  * weblordpepe hands out cracked copies of ubuntu warez on cdrom
[23:19] <bazhang> !ot | weblordpepe
[23:19] <sudormrf> oh my.  I am going to join the OT channel haha
[23:21] <daftykins> it's no saner there
[23:21] <daftykins> believe me
[23:22] <sudormrf> daftykins, AHAHHA seriously? I was hoping for complete insanity :D
[23:23] <daftykins> oh then DEFINITELY go there
[23:23] <sudormrf> daftykins, :D
[23:24] <treats> Hi all.  Attempting to create 'alternate keyboard profiles' that I can switch in an out of rapidly.  It's for an advanced keyboard settings while playing browser games
[23:24] <treats> any pointers in the right direction?
[23:26] <KyouReeUs4nfo> treats: keyboard-switching-hotkey may be your answer
[23:27] <KyouReeUs4nfo> treats: http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Keyboard-Layout-in-Ubuntu (check out step 5)
[23:27] <Guest92040> Всем привет!
[23:27] <PreSSion> excume, is it posible put a script in LO, and when i click on it, the script open a file (sry for my "engrish")
[23:27] <Beldar> !ru | Guest92040
[23:33] <KyouReeUs4nfo> PreSSion: L0?
[23:33] <PreSSion> libreoffcie
[23:34] <KyouReeUs4nfo> PreSSion: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Scripting
[23:35] <PreSSion> thanks man! i will see... the scripting will work in any OS?
[23:35] <CarlFK> # dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/session/idle-delay uint32=0  ...   error.. VALUE       The value to write (in GVariant format)
[23:35] <PreSSion> i guess no
[23:35] <PreSSion> xd
[23:35] <CarlFK> anyone know what GVariant format is?
[23:36] <midnightmagic> Hey fwiw, my linking solution turned out to be (after compiling with -c): gcc -g -o out test.o -lgtk -lgdk -lglib -lm  -Wl,--no-as-needed,-lXext -lX11 -lXi
[23:39] <WJB> I have an TBS®2910 Matrix ARM mini PC Quad Core Processor using linaro Ubuntu 11.10, has anyone got flash player for youtube and such working on it?
[23:40] <rww> Adobe Flash was only released on Linux for x86, if I recall correctly.
[23:43] <ZeuZ> Question: If I use Ubuntu on a macbook pro 5.2, without using Bootcamp, can I use any of the graphic cards?
[23:43] <ZeuZ> or do I have to go through a reboot cycle?
[23:46] <dhaval2712> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76328 So I have this terrible issue and the other channels seem sort of dead...
[23:49] <jasabella> what's the difference between telling a server to listen to your server's hostname and your server's ip address?
[23:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo> PreSSion: how you use the script is up to you. LibreOffice supports specific set of scripting-languages only from what I gather.
[23:51] <jasabella> i notice it says servername.local instead
[23:51] <josvuk> how to print out which release I am using from the cli? uname doesn't prints me the release name
[23:51] <dhaval2712> So anyway the bug I posted... anybody have ANY idea?
[23:52] <beandog> josvuk: lsb_release -a
[23:52] <Bashing-om> jo -> lsb_realease -a <- is one way,
[23:53] <beandog> or cat /etc/lsb-release
[23:55] <KyouReeUs4nfo> josvuk: cat /etc/issue is another way