[16:40] <coz_> lakotajames,  maybe  "badblocks"  or  "fsck"
[16:40] <Blackout> how
[16:41] <whatvn> what messenger?
[16:41] <Blackout> lo de chatear tio
[16:42] <lakotajames> flintwingel:I tried to check it in GParted, which I assume uses fsck, and it told me I should probably run scandisk.  It's a fat16 sdcard.
[16:42] <Ultimate_darknes> !msn > Blackout
[16:42] <Blackout> ke me dejeis en paz
[16:43] <felix_> lol
[16:43] <felix_> what a nerd
[16:43] <heatmzzr> is there a way to format my winblows C: drive and preserve the bootloader so I dont have to reinstall linux?
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:  would be best to put it in a windows box and scan it.
[16:43] <heatmzzr> can I format c from linux
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> heatmzzr:  formating wont erase the mbr.
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> heatmzzr:  sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/DEVICENAME (be carefull)
[16:44] <r3dux> heatmzzr, copy the MBR somewhere, it's the first 168 bytes of the drive or so (look it up - 168 might be incorrect)
[16:44] <miarf> what's the best course of action to get a creative x-fi card kickin' in 9.04?
[16:44] <lakotajames> Dr_Willis:  Well, I don't have a windows box on hand right now.  Just reformatting it should fix it, right?  From GParted?
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:  or via command line.. yes.. proberly should.
[16:45] <r3dux> miarf,  I don't think X-Fi works under linux... Or it didn't when I looked it up when I got mine 2 years back
[16:45] <flintwingel> lakotajames: i think gparted means for you to put the sdcardf in a windows pc. You could also use fsck -t msdos
[16:45] <ealing> ?
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> x-fi has some support now.. but no idea how good it is.. Creative really dropped the ball on that one...
[16:46] <lakotajames> Dr_Willis:  Would fat32 be less likely to asplode and turn read-only like fat16 did?
[16:46] <miarf> oh
[16:46] <flintwingel> lakotajames: or fsck -t vfat depening on how your card is formatted
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:  i doubt if it matters
[16:46] <Slart> miarf, r3dux I think there are OSS drivers.. I might have heard something about an alsa driver too.. you'd have to check creatives website for info
[16:46] <Rovanion> Could someone help me figure out why kdenlive crashes on launch?
[16:46] <miarf> thank you for the tips
[16:46] <r3dux> Creative don't care about linux, and we shouldn't care about them IMHO. Bunch of [Expletive-Here]'s
[16:47] <emigdio> ola
[16:47] <strombom> is it possible to download an alternative version of an application using apt-get ?
[16:47] <whatvn> tired!
[16:47] <emigdio> tego problemas con mi conexion de internet en mi xubunto
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> !pin | strombom
[16:48] <strombom> thx
[16:48] <miarf> r3dux: although, it does seem that they have released gpl code for x-fi
[16:48] <miarf> (or something)
[16:48] <miarf> so maybe we'll see better support in the future
[16:48] <r3dux> strombom, also, you can pick a particular version of a package through synaptic and the Versions tab
[16:48] <jie> hello,I am new here
[16:48] <strombom> i dont have X
[16:48] <mike-daer> is banshee the closest thing to amarok for gnome?
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> creative needs to do somthing.. I normally buy a new sound card to replace the onboard.. but with their x-fi record.. ive not even bothered for the last 3 machines.
[16:49] <linjian> hello
[16:49] <felix_> !bulder
[16:49] <jie> hello
[16:49] <felix_> !builder
[16:49] <r3dux> miarf? Orly? Well, it's a start - I've ditched my X-Fi card now so too little too late, but anything's welcome.
[16:49] <linjian> i am peter,i am a newer
[16:49] <miarf> it's a shame, this x-fi is a smashing piece of equipment when i boot to winxp
[16:49] <ealing> help
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> !ask | ealing
[16:49] <oshua86> When I try to connect to my ssh server, it takes a long time to prompt me for a password, does anyone has any idea why?
[16:50] <r3dux> miarf - It IS a really nice bit of kit, just a shame that it's windows or nothing to really use it
[16:50] <miarf> r3dux: exactly
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> oshua86:  ive noticed that on occasion also.. you culd try 'ssh -vv remotebox . or set up the keys stuff where you dont need the passwords
[16:50] <miarf> oh well, it's probably time to give their early beta drivers a try
[16:51] <r3dux> I've got an external soundblaster 16 card I use in linux because I wanted a optical input/output (TOSlink) for recording guitar stuff from an effects pedal, even that's a pain in the arse and it's basically a SB16 w/ a couple of ports :)
[16:52] <oshua86> Dr_Willis, This is the output of the -vvv the last part is where it seems to take a while to move from http://paste.ubuntu.com/178050/
[16:52] <ealing> Good Night ,EveryOne
[16:52] <r3dux> Actually, I think it's more the Intel HDA that's a pain in the arse. ALC889 chipset. It loves playing up, and needing ALSA 1.0.18, and special .conf settins etc =/ Boo/Hiss
[16:52] <gartral> how do i change my System's host name?
[16:53] <Slart> gartral: I think there is a "hostname" command
[16:53] <ealing> I didn't know
[16:53] <Slart> gartral: man hostname would tell you more about it
[16:53] <r3dux> What's your current hostname?
[16:53] <r3dux> man hostame
[16:53] <r3dux> No manual entry for hostame
[16:53] <r3dux> OR not...
[16:53] <mike-daer> is there a reason why opera isnt in synaptics?
[16:53] <flintwingel> oshua86: it may be because the server is doing reverse dns - try adding "UseDNS no" to the sshd_config file on the server & restart sshd
[16:54] <Slart> r3dux: works on my system here
[16:54] <Rovanion> Could someone help me with kdenlive?
[16:54] <r3dux> typo... soz =)
[16:54] <r3dux> man HOSTNAME not hostame
[16:54] <b0hne> hi, i got an intel hda sound device. i checked the chipset i had a look into /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz choose the module which should be for my card and added some different option to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf. i have no sound. i have to mention that i want to have sound via optical connection. i checked alsamixer and everything is on full level, and i checked different options in audio settings. not
[16:54] <b0hne> hing happens. anyone knows where i could have a look at?
[16:54] <Rovanion> It doesnt run
[16:54] <Raex93> Hey. I need help again. I cant get my speakers to work.
[16:55] <Aliasa> when i installed ubuntu on my notebook,i use 15 gb,,,but naw i want more,,..can i ?
[16:55] <mike-daer> try typing 'alsomixer' in the term and going thru all of the volume settings, make sure theyre not muted
[16:55] <mike-daer> that happens to me everytime i upgrade
[16:55] <Raex93> okay
[16:55] <tw3ak> hello guys anyone running an amd64 system and having kernel errors after last night's updates?
[16:56] <Jugger> Hello everyone, I just installed Ubuntu and only problem i am having is i cant get nVidia X Server to recognize im using a LCD monitor not a CRT monitor.
[16:56] <tw3ak> my cdrom  serial dev quit working
[16:56] <Aliasa>  when i installed ubuntu on my notebook,i use 15 gb,,,but naw i want more,,..can i ?
[16:56] <r3dux> Bohne, you'll be lucky to get any optical out of a HDA-Intel. Make sure you have the latest Alsa (1.0.19 as of speaking) - but even then, I doubt it
[16:56] <oshua86> flintwingel, that did it, its fast now. Do you think there is a security risk in not using reverse DNS?
[16:57] <b0hne> damn it. thanks r3dux
[16:57] <r3dux> Bohne, have you tried "auto", "default", "6stack-dig", etc etc to try to find a version that works? You can look up the options avail for HDA-Intel, I just don't know them off the top of my head...
[16:57] <Raex93> i typed in alsomixer and it doesnt work
[16:57] <b0hne> raex93, alsamixer
[16:57] <Raex93> not found, it says
[16:57] <Raex93> oh
[16:58] <flintwingel> oshua86: I can't think of any risks - if anything its probably safer - you can spoof DNS requests, its harder to spoof IP addresses
[16:58] <mike-daer> alsamixer
[16:58] <bbbb> i want to share a file in samba can you help me?
[16:58] <Jugger> Anyone happen to know if there is any bugs the prevent my nVidia 8800GT from noticing my LCD screen?
[16:58] <r3dux> gnome-alsamixer
[16:58] <b0hne> r3dux is coax or any other connection known to work?
[16:58] <r3dux> No hitting M for mute/unmute...
[16:58] <oshua86> flintwingel, ok, thank you so much
[16:59] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: Need more info .. how big is the disk .. do you have avail space .. is there another O/S .. etc
[16:59] <Raex93> How cna i tell? all of the bars have some white, green, and red in them
[16:59] <r3dux> I have no idea, sorry b0hne --- my HDA-Intel ALC889 works for laptop speakers, and I use this cheap-ass external SB16 with optical/in/out to push stuff to speakers or record
[16:59] <Aliasa> yes i have windows
[16:59] <Aliasa> i have 160 gb..15
[16:59] <mike-daer> press the m button, that unmutes/mutes
[16:59] <Aliasa> gb in ubuntu
[17:00] <r3dux> Celebrates Creative's Linux support of their soundcards with a cigarette...
[17:00] <r3dux> Yum :)
[17:00] <Aliasa> i have avaible space in wundows about 46 gb
[17:00] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: and is all the rest of the space allocated to Win?  Or is there free space?
[17:00] <Aliasa> and 7gb in ubuntu
[17:00] <flintwingel> Jugger: I have an nVidia 8800 and have had no problems - what is the output of xrandr
[17:00] <Aliasa> yes in windows i have 45 free space
[17:00] <heatmzzr> Dr_Willis: it doesnt matter that linux drive is /dev/sdb and winblows is dev/sda does it? as it relates to me formatting winblows??
[17:00] <Raex93> i hit M and do i want the MM or the 00?
[17:01] <vadi01> okay in ubuntu build-essential ... has it been replaced ?
[17:01] <miarf> hm, i seem to be unable to find opera for ubuntu 9.04 in add/remove or with synaptics
[17:01] <mike-daer> OO
[17:01] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: ah, Ok, well you can boot your Ubuntu CD as Live, run gparted and create a new partition in the free space.  make if filetype linux, then reboot the machine
[17:01] <mike-daer> and put all the bars up to the top
[17:01] <Aliasa> ok
[17:01] <Aliasa> thanks
[17:02] <Jugger> flintwingel: I honestly dont know what that means, but i cant get X Server to notice im using a LCD monitor it says im using a CRT.
[17:02] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: format the new partition use mk2fs and then mount
[17:02] <Rovanion> Is there anyone here who got kdenlive working?
[17:02] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: you may need to readup on mke2fs , but it's not hard.
[17:02] <Aliasa> ok
[17:02] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: I hate to say the 'Gentoo' word here, but they have excellent docs on doing this very thing ...
[17:03] <Who> Rovanion: My roommate has
[17:03] <flintwingel> Jugger: Menu->Preferences->Display... does it show you your monitor correctly?
[17:03] <Who> Rovanion: He just installed it :S
[17:03] <JohnTeddy> On a default ubuntu install, what is the quickest way to find my external ip without installing anything?
[17:03] <Rovanion> Who, is he using kubuntu?
[17:03] <Who> JohnTeddy: Go to whatismyip.com works :P
[17:03] <Who> Rovanion: no - Ubuntu
[17:03] <vladimirboyd> John: firefox
[17:04] <Jugger> flintwingel: No that just says Unknown.
[17:04] <Rovanion> Who: 8.10 or 9.4?
[17:04] <r3dux> I changed my NAS mounting from sbbfs to cifs today because, apparently, smbfs is depracated... Still works, don't know why I bothered...
[17:04] <Who> Rovanion: 9.04
[17:04] <JohnTeddy> Who: I'm on server ubuntu
[17:04] <r3dux> "smbfs"
[17:04] <JohnTeddy> Who: command line
[17:04] <Raex93> Still no sound.
[17:04] <Rovanion> Who, okey. I
[17:05] <mike-daer> do u use onboard?
[17:05] <Rovanion> Im still on 8.10
[17:05] <Who> JohnTeddy: well, you _could_ use wget and something like grep? but there must be a better way :P
[17:05] <r3dux> Raex - which soundcard?
[17:05] <flintwingel> Jugger: are you using the nvidia or open source drivers?
[17:05] <Who> Rovanion: Oh, sorry - probably can't help - he didn't have it on 8.10.
[17:05] <Jugger> flintwingel: nVidia 180 driver
[17:06] <Rovanion> What a shame because it seems to be the enly working video editing app for linux except of Blender
[17:07] <r3dux> Plugged in HDMI the other day to watch an avi on screen - lovely picture, zero sound. Worked first time in Vista. =/
[17:07] <clyde> Hello, I'm trying to play videos.  i have tried avi, mv4 and mov and all of them just shut vlc down after about 2 seconds of it being opened without playing any of the video.  any ideas?
[17:07] <Raex93> Im on a HP Mini 1030. Not exactly of the sound card. Ill look that up.
[17:07] <Who> JohnTeddy: if you do find one, maybe let me know here :). Also http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/browse is bound to have it somewhere
[17:07] <flintwingel> Jugger: do you have a Nvidia settings entry in either the Preferences or System ?
[17:07] <crom09> Hello, recently installed ubuntu. Does the windows button in my keyboard do something?
[17:07] <Who> Rovanion: I have to say he does complain that it crashes quite a bit
[17:07] <Who> crom09: Yes,
[17:07] <r3dux> Jugger > System | Adminstration | NVIDIA X Server Settings
[17:07] <Jugger> flintwingel: Yes NVIDIA X Server Settings
[17:07] <b0hne> r3dux, sorry for delay. so it will be best to check out for a good working soundcard to have my optical device feeded :D btw my ati sound over hdmi didnt even work in vista ;)
[17:07] <crom09> who: what?
[17:08] <Who> chrom09: you can also use it for other useful new shortcut keys. If you're running compiz and have the 'expo' plugin on then it will zoom out
[17:08] <Jugger> It only shows CRT Monitor and i cant chane it.
[17:08] <ziroday> Rovanion: error messages?
[17:08] <stuar>  Help please !!! Compile the Kernel <IP_ADDRESS>: scripts/kconfig/conf.c: In function ‘conf_askvalue’
[17:08] <Jugger> change even
[17:08] <Who> chrom09: try holding the win key and scrolling
[17:08] <Rovanion> Who: Blender is so stable that you could push Taipei 101 on it without it crashing but I dont have the time getting into it
[17:08] <ziroday> stuar: we can't help you with kernel compiles here
[17:08] <flintwingel> Jugger: what monitor do you have?
[17:09] <Who> chrom09: also, if you install something like Gnome-do (which I strongly recommend!) then it uses <win>+<space> to start it
[17:09] <r3dux> B0hne - I just got a cheap external USB soundcard so I could feed to output of my guitar pedal into it optically... your mileage my vary ;)
[17:09] <Jugger> flintwingel: Hannspree HF229HPB 22" LCD
[17:09] <crom09> who: I0m not running compiz (have some problems if I enable the propietary drivers of my card)
[17:09] <Rovanion> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m1b03e94d
[17:09] <Who> chrom09: It is often called 'Super' or 'Meta' on Linux, for obvious reasons ;)
[17:09] <r3dux> "feed the"
[17:09] <crom09> who: so right now, it isn't doing anything at all...
[17:09] <ziroday> Rovanion: sudo apt-get remove kdenlive ; sudo apt-get install kdenlive
[17:09] <crom09> oh
[17:10] <Rovanion> ziroday: Why do I want to reinstall it?
[17:10] <Who> chrom09: I don't know, there are likely applications that _do_ use it. I don't think I use any except Compiz and Gnome-do
[17:10] <ziroday> Rovanion: it appears you are missing a dependancy
[17:10] <Who> chrom09: I also use it for setting shortcut keys of my own, because it is not so often used
[17:10] <crom09> who: so ther'es no harm in making it open the "start menu" like in windows
[17:10] <gaotian> does someone now what is the command to setup LAMP ?
[17:10] <ziroday> gaotian: which part?
[17:11] <Raex93> Anyone who wants to guide me step by step through fixing this, please PM me.
[17:11] <ziroday> !pm | Raex93
[17:11] <r3dux> gaotian, sudo apt-get install apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2 && sudo apt-get install mysql
[17:11] <Who> chrom09: well, I _think_ that if you do that you might loose the ability to make it a modifier key, but I am not sure about that, maybe have a little test
[17:11] <crom09> ok
[17:11] <r3dux> gaotian, sudo apt-get install php5 && sudo apt-get install apache2 && sudo apt-get install mysql
[17:11] <r3dux> grr...
[17:11] <gaotian> does the order matter ?
[17:12] <Rovanion> ziroday: Well it didnt change anything.
[17:12] <Who> chrom09: good luck :)
[17:12] <r3dux> Not really, you'll have to tie them together yourself - but it's not hard
[17:12] <Who> chrom09: also, if you install gnome-do you'll never want to use the 'start menu' again ;)
[17:12] <Raex93> I have an HDA Intel Sound Card
[17:12] <eb4bgr> hi to all.  I want help about Ubuntu 9.04 boot
[17:12] <flintwingel> Jugger: all I can suggest is you run through the xserver initialisation again -  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:13] <ziroday> Rovanion: you did install kdenlive from the repo's?
[17:13] <FlightlessDuck> I have to ask u guys a question
[17:13] <Rovanion> ziroday: Yep, directly via Synaptics
[17:13] <Jugger> flintwingel: im going to try that now and c what happens
[17:14] <ziroday> Rovanion: okay, do sudo aptitude remove kdenlive, then sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get autoclean, then sudo updatedb and then mlocate kdenlive and pastebin the results please
[17:14] <crom09> Who: ok, just configured to behave like windows. I'll watch out for any problems.
[17:14] <r3dux> gaotian, if you're going to be doing mysql stuff with php, get PHPMyAdmin as well..
[17:14] <FlightlessDuck> Is it better to have a crappy new computer with horrible specs, or a few years older computer with okay specs?
[17:14] <r3dux> It'll make life easier.
[17:14] <david_> I've got a lenovo x301, and I need to disable the 'trackpad double click' ability (tap_time = 0) but there's no trackpad / input reference in the xorg.conf, how can I set it?
[17:14] <gaotian> r3dux, how to get that ?
[17:14] <ziroday> FlightlessDuck: its all subjective
[17:14] <crom09> Who: and I'll have a look at gnome-do (heard of it once, but not tried it yet).
[17:14] <Rovanion> ziroday: Will try, thanks
[17:15] <crom09> thx
[17:15] <crom09> bye
[17:15] <eb4bgr> hi to all.  I want help about Ubuntu 9.04 boot
[17:15] <FlightlessDuck> yeah, right now I have a choice though...
[17:15] <r3dux> gaotian, apt-get, or try "getdeb.com"
[17:15] <ziroday> david_: that's handled in hal now, you'll have to fiddle with a fdi file
[17:15] <gaotian> ok
[17:15] <r3dux> or google phpmyadmin
[17:15] <gaotian> many thx to r3dux
[17:15] <Who> chrom09: It's always that kind of thing that bites me later - I spend ages trying to work out why my new shortcut key doesn't work)
[17:15] <Raex93> I need help with my sound. I cant hear anything at all.
[17:15] <Slart> FlightlessDuck: if you define "crappy" and "a few" we might be in a better position to help you.. you could also just give us the specs
[17:15]  * david_ hms. Doh @ ziroday. I'll google and see what I can come up with, thanks for the pointer!
[17:16] <ziroday> david_: err one sec :)
[17:16] <r3dux> Raex93, try this: http://r3dux.org/?p=500
[17:16] <FlightlessDuck> well the new computer has 512 ram, not sure processer, and a 20 gig hd, old has a 60 gig hd 1 gig of ram and once again, not sure of the procceser
[17:17] <FlightlessDuck> but the older 1 is 5 years old
[17:17] <casperrr> How to make the rythmbox to understand a .cue files&
[17:18] <Rovanion> ziroday: This is the output I get: http://pastebin.com/m2c987f5a
[17:18] <FlightlessDuck> I'm most likely gonna go woth the older computer, just wanted to get ur opinion
[17:18] <ziroday> Rovanion: okay, rm the first two folders/files
[17:18] <r3dux> FlightlessDuck, this isn't a what-should-i-do-with-a-box channel.... I have no idea what you should do with your box, or which to use - perhaps a hardware channel might?
[17:18] <Slart> FlightlessDuck: the new computer has a 20GB hard drive
[17:18] <ziroday> Rovanion: and then try an reinstall
[17:18] <Rovanion> ziroday: Will do
[17:18] <Slart> FlightlessDuck: ? that doesn't really sound like a new computer.. unless it's a SSD
[17:19] <FlightlessDuck> okay, idk
[17:19] <david_> Some days I hate linux. This is one of 'em. :)
[17:19] <Slart> FlightlessDuck: even the cheapest store built computers come with at 200GB+ Hard drives
[17:20] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi Ubuntuistoj!
[17:20] <william> hi
[17:20] <sisif> Hello guys. Quick question: which one is better ALSA or PulseAudio ?
[17:21] <Tyler> sisif: pulseaudio requires alsa
[17:21] <Tyler> it's a layer on top
[17:21] <r3dux> Try getting rid of pulseaudio....
[17:21] <Slart> sisif: they are not comparable
[17:21] <miarf> is there a way to install opera from synaptics
[17:21] <miarf> or add/remove
[17:21] <Slart> !opera
[17:21] <miarf> thanks
[17:21] <mdude>     /server irc.efnet.net
[17:21] <sisif> Tyler , Slart , can you explain to me a bit more ?
[17:22] <Mohammad[B]> where is keyboard's layout settings save in Ubuntu ? i must clean it ... please help me
[17:22] <dronix> ubuntu is awesome!
[17:22] <Slart> sisif: alsa is the system that actually talks to the hardware.. pulseaudio talks to alsa and moves sound streams around, controls volume etc..
[17:22] <Tyler> sisif: ALSA is the audio layer. Pulseaudio is a layer on top that applications can send streams to for mixing, etc.
[17:22] <r3dux> Pulseaudio is great in theory, bad in implementation --- I move to alsa as much as I can so my sound doesn't stutter, skip or fall over.
[17:22] <Slart> sisif: pulseaudio is like a dj, alsa is like the sound system he uses.. you can use pulseaudio without alsa, afaik
[17:22] <Tyler> sisif: in general, plain ALSA is better than ALSA+Pulseaudio
[17:22] <Slart> sisif: sorry.. can't
[17:22] <Tyler> Slart: um, how??
[17:23] <Tyler> yeah, it's impossible
[17:23] <Rovanion> ziroday: It all works good until the application itself launches. The preconfig works good. But I still get the crash
[17:23] <ziroday> Rovanion: bleh, then I have no idea sorry
[17:23] <quibbler> miarf-> http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
[17:23] <Tyler> most people use alsa without pulseaudio, but those who do use pulseaudio must use alsa as well
[17:23] <MalfermitaKodo> I tried to install a bitmap font I created with gbdfed, but the tutorials I found were outdated, misleading or both. Why does the font not appear in the list?
[17:23] <r3dux> wow - Slart/Tyler --- wish I'd heard all that before I spend a dozen hours researching and experimenting just to get sound to play cleanly -- no joke - accurate & succinct description.
[17:23] <Rovanion> ziroday: Thanks for your time, I appriciate it
[17:24] <ziroday> Rovanion: I'm just sorry we didn't get it resolved. #kubuntu may be able help you further
[17:24] <david_> pulseaudio is garbage
[17:24]  * Phoenix87 re
[17:24] <david_> it's a bit better in the later versions, but earlier ones made me want to slit my wrists.
[17:24] <sisif> Ok, then in other words, which one is better to use? ALSA + Pulse or just ALSA? I`m asking this because since upgrading to 9.04 I`m experiencing issues with sound. Like, sound skips. VERY annoying.
[17:25] <david_> Toss pulseaudio
[17:25] <Slart> r3dux: pulseaudio actually works nicely for me... but there are lots of people out there with pulseaudio-problems... although I think many of those are alsa-related too
[17:25] <xcdfgkjhgcv> sisif: apt-get remove pulseaudio* fixed it for me
[17:25] <david_> install esound. :p
[17:25] <miarf> ah, opera isn't available as repository
[17:25] <david_> Yeah, same -- pulseaudio stutters like a bitch here.
[17:25] <david_> Which reminds me, have to remove it on my new laptop.
[17:25] <r3dux> sisif > http://r3dux.org/?p=500
[17:25] <r3dux> sisif > tsched=0
[17:25] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Pulseaudio is poopoo.
[17:25] <Slart> sisif: if pulseaudio works for you.. use it.. but don't spend days and weeks on fixing it if it doesn't do it's job
[17:25] <ziroday> xcdfgkjhgcv: thats not very helpful
[17:25] <Slart> sisif: it's simply not worth it
[17:26] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Most people don't even need Pulseaudio.
[17:26] <david_> esound > *! :D
[17:27] <sisif> r3dux: thank you.
[17:27] <ubuntu> good morning
[17:27] <sisif> So .. better just stick with plain ALSA, as I see it.
[17:27] <GeorgeJ> Good day!
[17:27] <bookmark> :D
[17:28] <FrankOKJP> Good morning
[17:28] <baobao> is wubi slower than ubuntu?
[17:28] <archman> Is there any way I can mount a Panasonic Lumix LS80 digicam in Jaunty?
[17:28] <FrankOKJP> how are you all doing?
[17:28] <bookmark> does anyone know how to tokenize the output of: dpkg -l?
[17:28] <baobao> if yes, how much slower
[17:28] <gordonjcp> archman: set it to usb storage mode rather than camera mode
[17:28] <erUSUL> bookmark: tokenize ?
[17:29] <FrankOKJP> can someone tell me why I can create a dir from my php code?
[17:29] <Milos_SD> Hi to all. How can I edit uname command so it displays my CPU info with uname -p (and uname -a). It displays unknown now?
[17:29] <Raex93> I found out what the problem is. The speakers on my computer just dont work with ubuntu. They havent fixed it yet either.
[17:29] <FrankOKJP> I am getting permission denied
[17:29] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: why, or how?
[17:29] <FrankOKJP> here is my code
[17:29] <FrankOKJP> <?php
[17:29] <FrankOKJP>  mkdir("testing",0777,true);
[17:29] <FrankOKJP>  ?>
[17:29] <FloodBot3> FrankOKJP: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <Slart> Raex93: the speakers don't work?? what kind of high-tech space age speakers are these?
[17:30] <bookmark> or rather de-tokenize, you see dpkg -l outputs a list of packages that are all preceeded with "ii" but i need the packages listed with only space seperating them.
[17:30] <erUSUL> Milos_SD: use "uname -m" ?
[17:30] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: don't paste stuff into the channel
[17:30] <archman> gordonjcp, I did activated it...
[17:30] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: how are you running that code?
[17:30] <r3dux> Raex93, they CAN work, it's just a pain in the arse to GET your soundcard to worl.
[17:30] <r3dux> "work"
[17:30] <gordonjcp> archman: okay, and what happens when you plug the camera in?
[17:30] <erUSUL> !clone | bookmark i guess you are trying to do this
[17:30] <Raex93> They are actually the built in speakers on the HP mini 1030
[17:30] <Raex93> And the soundcard works because the audio port works
[17:30] <FrankOKJP> I am running it from my public_html folder
[17:30] <Milos_SD> erUSUL, uname -m displays "x86_64"
[17:30] <GeorgeJ> I'm currently having some connection issues with my pppoe connection. It worked just fine on 8.10 but since I upgraded to 9.04, I've been getting timeouts while browsing for some reason. Anyone with some knowledge about this issue? The pppd version in 8.10 is 2.4.4, it got upgraded to 2.4.5 in 9.04.
[17:31] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: okay
[17:31] <FrankOKJP> using an explorer
[17:31] <erUSUL> Milos_SD: it is not what you want ?
[17:31] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: so your public_html directory is owned by you
[17:31] <r3dux> Raex93? No sound? Config fix req'd.
[17:31] <Milos_SD> erUSUL, no... I want this: Linux myhost 2.6.29-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat May 9 12:47:43 UTC 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[17:31] <archman> gordonjcp, nothing, except something in dmesg, which I cannot tell you now (camera not here) except if I find some logs of yesterday when I tried it. Can I?
[17:31] <Slart> Raex93: hmm.. sounds like a soundcard problem.. but anyways.. I thought they were special digital speakers or something
[17:31] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: and presumably it's only writable by you
[17:31] <gordonjcp> archman: sure, pastebin it though
[17:31] <FrankOKJP> yes
[17:31] <Milos_SD> erUSUL, that last one... AMD ....
[17:31] <archman> gordonjcp, how to find it?
[17:31] <erUSUL> Milos_SD: i see
[17:31] <FrankOKJP> since I am the owner
[17:31] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: okay, then ask yourself if the web server is likely to be able to write to it
[17:32] <FrankOKJP> I can read write
[17:32] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: who is the webserver running as?
[17:32] <FrankOKJP> that is my question
[17:32] <gordonjcp> archman: /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[17:32] <FrankOKJP> as root
[17:32] <archman> thanks!
[17:32] <oladejo_> yu
[17:32] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: more likely as www-data
[17:32] <FrankOKJP> yes
[17:32] <r3dux> asound list to get a list of sound output options, pick ya card analog or digital if it has both and speakers expect a specific one of the two..
[17:32] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: can www-data write in your public_html directory?
[17:32] <r3dux> I HATE linux sound. It's rubbish.
[17:33] <FrankOKJP> that I don't know
[17:33] <FrankOKJP> how can I check it
[17:33] <sebsebseb> r3dux: for some of us it's like Windows, just works, no problem
[17:33] <FrankOKJP> ?
[17:33] <r3dux> sebastien, but for a very large percentage it just doesn't. Big problem.
[17:33] <GeorgeJ> su www-data, go to your public_html folder and try creating a new file there
[17:33] <simplexio> have to say that after pulseaudio come, there has been alot more problems
[17:33] <bookmark> ubottu: i uh.... it says i have 1222 packages installed or does it mean installed on the server or something?  I was not aware that I have that many packages installed.
[17:34] <r3dux> I boot exclusively into linux and make it work, but not everyone's a software engineer.
[17:34] <sebsebseb> r3dux: that's, becuse of of hardware manufactures that do not support Linux properly or at all
[17:34] <erUSUL> bookmark: ubottu is a bot i called
[17:34] <Slart> bookmark: the default install consists of many packages
[17:34] <archman> gordonjcp, http://paste.ubuntu.com/178083/
[17:34] <sebsebseb> r3dux: also there are loads of sound thingey to choose from,  ALSA,  OSS, Pulseaudio, etc
[17:34] <bookmark> can anyone sell debian?
[17:34] <MalfermitaKodo> That is STRANGE, after adding the quux directory to the server's font path it no longer even tells me that the font rejistanian exists...
[17:34] <gordonjcp> archman: weird
[17:35] <r3dux> I agree, sebastien  - they don't help, so it's left to the ALSA folk to get it up and running. Fact is though that without significant config modification, I get zero sound out of the box.
[17:35] <FrankOKJP> I can create a file in my public_html
[17:35] <proq> mzz: do you remember the process that loads the gtk theme?  maybe I'll use that instead (but it's been two y
[17:35] <gordonjcp> archman: I don't really know where to start with that, it looks like it's not even associating to the USB controller
[17:35] <archman> gordonjcp, i didn't mount in /media and /mnt and also no autorun
[17:35] <maniel> is there any gui for dkms?
[17:35] <proq> oops, ignore that
[17:35] <linduxed> is there a commandline tool that prints a pictures info, like pixelwidth and stuff like that?
[17:35] <simplexio> r3dux: thats your problem if you by windows only hardware
[17:35] <bookmark> buy
[17:35] <sebsebseb> bookmark: your off topic here, but  go to http://www.gnu.org  go to philosphey section and read the article about selling freesoftware, that should answer your question
[17:35] <Guest63936> can someone help me compile a psptoolchain in dapper drake
[17:35] <linduxed> just the basic stuff
[17:35] <GeorgeJ> Anyone else having problems with their pppoe conectivity as of 9.04?
[17:35] <Slart> bookmark: sell debian? this is #ubuntu.. debian has it's own channel.. you'll have to check the license agreement
[17:35] <bookmark> whoos i thought i was in debian
[17:36] <gordonjcp> archman: it would probably come up as /dev/sdb1 or something similar
[17:36] <r3dux> sebastien, ALSA should eat OSS, and PulseAudio should get its shit together and work. When that happens, we'll be okay... Give it 10 years.
[17:36] <simplexio> r3dux: last 5 or more years alsa has worked everytime on my hw.. only one giving problems is pulseaudio now and then
[17:36] <MalfermitaKodo> linduxed: imagemagick(sp) might be worth a google
[17:36] <bookmark> how the hell did i get here
[17:36] <Guest63936> can someone help me compile a psptoolchain in dapper drake
[17:36] <Guest63936> can someone please help me compile a psptoolchain in dapper drake
[17:36] <r3dux> Guest45171, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:36] <simplexio> Guest63936: donr repeat..
[17:37] <dayo> i'm looking for a tool that let's me send a popup msg to all systems on my lan, e.g. "Rebooting proxy in 5 minutes. Please stand by."  any ideas?
[17:37] <simplexio> and another nick to ignore list
[17:37] <sebsebseb> r3dux: pulseaudio and Ubuntu 8.04 yes issues, but it's not so bad now as far as I know
[17:37] <r3dux> Guest45171, configure && make && sudo make install
[17:37] <Guest63936> ok
[17:37] <maniel> i think all those remove/build/install an looking in /var/lib/dkms for module version is little bit time taking, so i'd like to have gui [or at least tui] for that
[17:37] <Guest63936> its a toolchain
[17:38] <Guest63936> and im not familiar with ubuntu
[17:38] <Jugger> Alright so in Unistalled the NVIDIA Drivers and Reinstalled them and im still at the same problem i cant change my display off CRT to my LCD.
[17:38] <r3dux> sebastien, 9.04 - Still lots of pulseaudio/asla issues you need to fix with config tweaks. No kidding.
[17:38] <mzz> proq: gnome-settings-daemon
[17:38] <rohdef> how do I get audacious to play cd?
[17:38] <Milos_SD> so, is there a way to get CPU information (name) with uname -a ? How can I edit /bin/uname file?
[17:38] <bookmark> why didn't you just install with your lcd connected to beginwith Jugger?
[17:38] <sebsebseb> r3dux: ok that's enough for this channel, plenty of others on this network, where you can whine about Linux sound
[17:38] <r3dux> Guest45171, then perhaps you're trying for too much with your first stab at linux... happy reading ;)
[17:39] <sebsebseb> !ot | r3dux
[17:39] <casperrr> How to make the rythmbox to understand a .cue files?
[17:39] <Guest63936> how do i get a built in wacom talblet to work
[17:39] <Slart> Milos_SD: cpu information can be found by doing this "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[17:39] <Jugger> bookmark i did. i only have this monitor.
[17:39] <Guest63936> how do i get a built in wacom tablet to work
[17:39] <Slart> Milos_SD: not sure why you'd want to edit the uname binary
[17:39] <rohdef_> ok xorg crashed, I'll ask again
[17:39] <r3dux> sebastien, I'm not whining as much as saying No, it DOESN'T work first time. Which is what you're saying is your experience - mine differs.
[17:40] <rohdef_> how do I get audacious to play an audio cd?
[17:40] <r3dux> There's a difference.
[17:40] <Milos_SD> Slart, I told you why... I want to get cpu name with uname -a command, as it is on Arch Linux.
[17:40] <Persi> how do I find and remove the script that launches Conky?
[17:40] <sebsebseb> r3dux: well your not getting help for your issues either,  or helping others with such issues, and so off topic
[17:40] <Persi> already removed it from startup settings list
[17:40] <bookmark> r3dux .cda is just .wav with a differet header maybe that will help you somehow
[17:40] <Guest63936> can someone help me install windows xp in grub
[17:40] <GeorgeJ> Milos_SD: what does your uname -a output now?
[17:41] <sebsebseb> Guest63936: I expect so, but why?
[17:41] <Jugger> flintwingel: you still there?
[17:41] <simplexio> r3dux: and like i said. its your problem- buy hw thats is supported your OS
[17:41] <r3dux> sebastien, fair enough.
[17:41] <sebsebseb> indeed at what  simplexio said
[17:41] <Milos_SD> GeorgeJ, Linux c2d-desktop 2.6.30-rc6-core2duo #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat May 16 22:12:45 CEST 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:41] <Persi> please?
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> Guest63936:  the default menu.lst has an example to boot windows near the top of the file, commented out
[17:41] <bookmark> r3dux why not just rip the cd to your harddrive
[17:41] <r3dux> ?
[17:41] <bookmark> rip it to wav
[17:41] <Guest63936> i meant the cd with an externel cdrom
[17:42] <Slart> Milos_SD: are you sure that's the cpu name? and not part of the kernel name?
[17:42] <r3dux> I don't have any problems ripping anything, why are you mentioning this to me? Just use GRiP and Lame..
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> Guest63936:  not sure what you mean...
[17:42] <Guest63936> as in installing it
[17:42] <Milos_SD> Slart, no it is not kernel name... this is my friends uname -a output on ArchLinux: Linux myhost 2.6.29-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat May 9 12:47:43 UTC 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Guest63936:  you mean making the system boot the external cdrom drive to install xp?
[17:43] <Guest63936> yes
[17:43] <bookmark> i'm sorry meant rohdef
[17:43] <sebsebseb> Guest63936: you have Windows on the computer, and Grub just detects it, or you set Grub up to
[17:43] <Slart> Milos_SD: you could try uname -p.. I just get "unknown" but perhaps it works on some systems
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Guest63936:  im not sure thats even doable..
[17:43] <bookmark> sorry r3dux i meant rohdef
[17:43] <Milos_SD> Slart, that AMD etc output should be uname -m ... And I get unknown with that :(
[17:43] <Guest63936> ok thnks anyway
[17:43] <bookmark> damn nick completion
[17:43] <Guest63936> now on to my tablet pc problem
[17:43] <r3dux> isn't uname -r the one to get your version and architecture?
[17:43] <Milos_SD> Slart, yes, uname -p...
[17:44] <sebsebseb> Guest63936: you just boot a  CD on the computer, as long a BIOS is set up to boot from CD
[17:44] <Guest63936>  i can get the digitizer working
[17:44] <Milos_SD> Slart, but I also get "unknown" on all my ubuntu systems :(
[17:44] <sebsebseb> Guest63936: as long as BIOS above
[17:44] <sebsebseb> r3dux: only the kernel your using
[17:44] <r3dux> ah... true
[17:44] <erUSUL> Milos_SD: « grep "model name"  /proc/cpuinfo | cut -d: -f2 | uniq  » has the same effect here
[17:45] <roy_hobbs> I'm having trouble with a Hardy Heron.  If I do "$ sudo ethtool -s eth0 wol g", the 'g' doesn't appear to hold after I suspend.
[17:45] <roy_hobbs> Every time I bring it back up, the 'g' is missing.  Needless to say, WOL is not wor king.
[17:45] <sebsebseb> what's WOR?
[17:45] <sebsebseb> WOL
[17:45] <roy_hobbs> wake on lan
[17:45] <r3dux> And I almost understand what the hell that means...
[17:45] <sebsebseb> roy_hobbs: oh ok
[17:46] <kdub> what is the 'legal' name of ubuntu. eg, google is Google, Inc. but i doubt Ubuntu is an 'inc.'
[17:46] <sebsebseb> !Canonical |  kdub
[17:46] <GeorgeJ> Milos_SD: I am not 100% sure about this, but I think the data uname outputs is read from the kernel and is set at compile time.
[17:46] <r3dux> You're suspending an ethernet port with wake on lan, wireless g... only your syntax for ethtool is incorrect?
[17:46] <Slart> kdub: ubuntu is a distro.. the company behind ubuntu si called canonical
[17:46] <GeorgeJ> I'm currently having some connection issues with my pppoe connection. It worked just fine on 8.10 but since I upgraded to 9.04, I've been getting timeouts while browsing for some reason. Anyone with some knowledge about this issue? The pppd version in 8.10 is 2.4.4, it got upgraded to 2.4.5 in 9.04.
[17:46] <kdub> Slart: well, i know that, but i bet that there is a legal incorporation of some sort somewhere
[17:47] <roy_hobbs> r3dux: no i'm not.. this is a wired lan card
[17:47] <kdub> even charities have legal organizational filings
[17:47] <roy_hobbs> r3dux: the 'g' has nothing to do with abgn wireless networks
[17:47] <mh_> hi
[17:47] <r3dux> roy_hobbs, what does it have to do with then?
[17:47] <Slart> kdub: yes... but they have money flowing around, invoices and such.. does your toaster have a legal name? your car? your operating system?
[17:47] <sebsebseb> mh_: hi
[17:47] <gordonjcp> kdub: what's the legal company name of a Ford Escort?
[17:48] <Mooch> Curious of the future versions of Ubuntu will still support dial up?
[17:48] <roy_hobbs> r3dux: 'g' is the flag that represents wake on magic packet in ethtool
[17:48] <Slart> kdub: they have probably registered a trademark and such though
[17:48] <sebsebseb> !dialup | Mooch
[17:48] <Sh3r1ff> gordonjcp: general motors ;)
[17:48] <MalfermitaKodo> re there any recent tutorials on how I can install PCF or BDF fonts? The tutorials I found were really deprecated and did not deal with Xorg yet.
[17:48] <MalfermitaKodo> *Are
[17:48] <dekushrub> Does anyone know how to network a printer?
[17:48] <mh_> if nothing is added in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  is it the right place to change display settings?
[17:48] <gordonjcp> Sh3r1ff: wow, are they still around?
[17:48] <sebsebseb> !cups |  dekushrub
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> dekushrub:  get printer going locally.. use the cups admin tool/page to make it shared to the network.
[17:49] <Slart> kdub: you can get some info here http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[17:49] <kdub> gordonjcp: i dont understand what you're trying to prove with that q
[17:49] <Mooch> no what I mean is will the future versions of Ubuntu support dial up?
[17:49] <root_> how do i upgrade
[17:49] <sebsebseb> Mooch: I expect so, since the current ones do
[17:49] <Slart> !upgrade | root_
[17:49] <Sh3r1ff> gordonjcp: for what i know, they still do, don't know for how long though ;)
[17:49] <root_> is  ubuntu 9.04
[17:49] <axisys> why does it show two cpus ? http://pastebin.com/d45621736 .. i have only one
[17:49] <sebsebseb> Mooch: dialup support won't be going bye bye any time soon
[17:50] <losher> Mooch: plenty of people still on dialup around the world....
[17:50] <r3dux> GeorgeJ, I had wireless dropouts with stcok 9.04 until I installed the backports with sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty         discussed on http://r3dux.org/?p=513
[17:50] <gpled> what controls where the pid file for dhcp gets put?
[17:50] <r3dux> -stcok +stock
[17:50] <MalfermitaKodo> axisys: DualCore?
[17:50] <kdub> ok, so its a product from canonical ltd, is its legal standing as a project
[17:50] <axisys> MalfermitaKodo: thats a pentium 4
[17:50] <sebsebseb> kdub: sure they have the legal rights and all that for it
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> !java
[17:51] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: You think it might affect wired connections aswell?
[17:51] <Mooch> sebsebseb: The reason I say it because Intrepid makes a little difficult to get a dialer to dial out
[17:51] <chemikalz> what is a great music player to point my music folder on my windows partition to, rhthm box used to work but now it does not even play mp3's
[17:51] <axisys> MalfermitaKodo: model name    : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
[17:51] <MalfermitaKodo> Sorry, after the 486 I stopped paying attention to every novelty
[17:51] <MalfermitaKodo> So I would not know what features it has
[17:51] <r3dux> GeorgeJ - honestly? I wouldn't really think so... but I couldn't rule it out.
[17:51] <GeorgeJ> Also, this only affects my pppoe connection, if i use a regular connection, there is no issue.
[17:51] <Sh3r1ff> kdub: collecting info to sue canonical? ;)
[17:52] <pollmann> this is great, I haven't used an IRC client for at least a half decade
[17:52] <MalfermitaKodo> chemikalz: mp3blaster?
[17:52] <boss_mc> chemikalz, look at mpd
[17:52] <TX-Dan> noob question! I think it's the "chown" command... but what is the command to change the owner name on all files in a folder? "man" wasn't much help
[17:52] <r3dux> Or 5 years, as it's also known.
[17:52] <losher> axisys: some of the later pentiums had hyperthreading, where they faked looking like two cpus, check your cpu model number
[17:52] <sebsebseb> kdub: ever read the GPL?  most software in Ubuntu will be lisensed under the GPL
[17:52] <chemikalz> thanks which to look at ?
[17:52] <boss_mc> TX-Dan, chown -R
[17:52] <Pici> TX-Dan: chown -r (for recursive)
[17:52] <JessicaParker> hi can anyone assist - i have java not enabled on a site appearing however java -version on terminal prompt seems to work ok - is there any way in which I  need to enable this in mozilla ? thanks
[17:52] <Sh3r1ff> TX-Dan: chown ;)
[17:52] <erUSUL> TX-Dan: chown -R and yes -R comes in the man
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> TX-Dan:  use a pattern and -r for recursive
[17:52] <chemikalz> MalfermitaKodo: does it also play FLAC etc
[17:52] <TX-Dan> thanks guys!
[17:53] <r3dux> I haven't had a cigarette for 600 E-1 minutes, so lets..
[17:53] <MalfermitaKodo> chemikalz: it plays oggs but I haven't tried to feed it FLACs yet
[17:54] <JessicaParker> hi does anyone know how to enable java on mozilla ?
[17:54] <chemikalz> why is rhythm player not working anymore
[17:54] <JessicaParker> i have it on the terminal version
[17:54] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: nstall sun-java6-plugin
[17:54] <mrwes> r3dux, or 5% of a century
[17:54] <mrwes> heh
[17:54] <kdub> Sh3r1ff, sebsebseb i was just curious about it
[17:54] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: I'm considering this to be a problem with the ipv6 module, quite a few people had problems with it, but I understand it is compiled into the kernel, is there any chance I can, maybe, disable it at boot?
[17:54] <chemikalz> what is term cmd to get mpd i get confused by packages
[17:54] <Pici> chemikalz: sudo apt-get install mpd
[17:54] <erUSUL> !ipv6 | GeorgeJ
[17:55] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: Rythombox heh,  I used to use that before, Banshee became good :)
[17:55] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: java -version retunrs java version "1.6.0_10"
[17:55] <JessicaParker>
[17:55] <chemikalz> thanks pici
[17:55] <chemikalz> seb yes it is very bad
[17:55] <chemikalz> rhythm playetr
[17:55] <GeorgeJ> erUSUL: nothing on my version of ubuntu, wich is 9.04
[17:55] <boss_mc> JessicaParker, go to about:plugins in firefox and make sure there's a java plugin listed
[17:55] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: so ? install the package i just told you? or install ubuntu-restricted-extras that install tghat package and a lot others
[17:55] <tuhoojabotti> trying to install dual-boot with xp, I select the option in the partition manager. -> it tries to use my 500GB drive, but I want to install to my 74GB free on my 160GB drive :S
[17:55] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: well in that case give this one a try :)   Banshee
[17:55] <erUSUL> GeorgeJ: ?
[17:56] <chemikalz> can i sudo get banshee
[17:56] <MalfermitaKodo> tuhoojabotti: have you selected that harddrive when partitioning?
[17:56] <tuhoojabotti> MalfermitaKodo: how is the question
[17:56] <JessicaParker> boss_mc: it is there JAVE (TM) plug-in 1.6.0 - i recently did an update of lots of components and now things dont work
[17:56] <chemikalz> yes i can
[17:56] <r3dux> tuhoojabotti, install to hdb not hda
[17:56] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: of course   sudo apt-get install Banshee    I  assume your on 9.04 or 8.10    8.04 probably still has an old rubbish version
[17:56] <GeorgeJ> erUSUL: the page the bot just directed me to has no instructions on how to disable ipv6 on 9.04
[17:56] <chemikalz> did it, im on 9.04
[17:57] <tuhoojabotti> it only allows me to select drive when use whole drive is selected?
[17:57] <MalfermitaKodo> tuhoojabotti: you can at some point select which harddrive to use for Ubuntu... afaik
[17:57] <JessicaParker> boss_mc: these problems seem to be similar to windows problems...........I moved onto Linux as I assumed it was more stable.......
[17:57] <tuhoojabotti> it's weird
[17:57] <erUSUL> GeorgeJ: it is the same as in any other version... blacklist the ipv6 module
[17:57] <chemikalz> rythm box ran fine in hardy heron
[17:57] <pollmann> question for you all, I'm the tech guy at a school.  Really new to linux.  I purchased 4 Asus eee PC 4G.  Hated the native OS so I installed Ubuntu and followed the instructions to get the Kernel that works best with the eee pc's.  I'd love to be able to use our server (2003) to allow the students to login with their windows username.  I discovered the activedirectoryhowto on the wiki. ...
[17:57] <pollmann> ...Unfortunately it states that I need ubuntu server to connect to AD.  Is there a way that I can connect to AD with Ubuntu Desktop, or is there an easy way to configure the server to have a x windows environment?
[17:57] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: I was talking about Banshee
[17:57] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: again just « sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin »
[17:57] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: anyway you can play videos as well with Banshee
[17:57] <chemikalz> seb yes i know i dl'ed it
[17:57] <chemikalz> banshee
[17:57] <chemikalz> thanks im going to try it now
[17:57] <tuhoojabotti> when I tried to install on free space, it didn't create the loader but loads xp everytime
[17:58] <GeorgeJ> erUSUL: Ah, i guess there's no problem in trying but does it work with modules compiled into the kernel? Several people reported that mehtod as not working.
[17:58] <pollmann> I've currently got server installed on my test eee box, but before I blow away another, I'd like to ask those that know more than I.
[17:58] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: I think it's better to give people commands without that weird character icon to show where the command is
[17:58] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: ,because people can get confussed and put in the weird character
[17:58] <mrwes> Rhthymbox plays fine in Jaunty
[17:58] <unnamedplayer_> Okie....ANYBODY ABLE TO GIVE A HAND?
[17:58] <r3dux> tuhoojabotti, you should be able to select any drive, and create any partitions you want. If you already have partitions, make sure it's okay to blank them to install linux, and again hdb0 will be the first partition on your second drive, hdb1 will be the 2nd partition on your 2nd drive etc
[17:58] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: well i use a weird caracter to avoid people putting the carater on comman line
[17:58] <jefinc> I am having troubles playing 2 audio streams at the same time; i.e.: firefox and rhythm, I have installed alsa-oss
[17:59] <chemikalz> importing my music collection into banshee currently
[17:59] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: am doing it closed down mozilla
[17:59] <billw> new to linux-trying to load my zune player but amrock wont do anything with it
[17:59] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: well some might just copy  the command including the character, and then it won't work
[17:59] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: ok done shall I open Mozilla again ?
[17:59] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: if i use "" most people will include it. i've been her for years helping people and know what i'm talking about
[17:59] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: yes; restart firefox
[17:59] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: ah ok, well I am just saying :)
[17:59] <mrwes> erUSUL, same with telling them to use yourusername :)
[17:59] <unnamedplayer_> I need help reverting back to open source graphics drivers
[18:00] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, be more specific
[18:00] <r3dux> Linux is ready for the desktop. This year. If only....
[18:00] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: no problem... i make sure i type an space between « and the command so people can confortably c&p...
[18:00] <chemikalz> hmm something happend to my music drivers
[18:00] <sebsebseb> r3dux: it is ready for average non technical computer users, as long as they have someone that knows it, helping them
[18:00] <chemikalz> sound i mean
[18:00] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I installed proprietary drivers that don't work for my hardware.
[18:00] <lazermouse> hi there
[18:00] <boss_mc> which ones?
[18:00] <mh_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     - doesn't do anything. Seems that I need to change the sources.list ?  (i'm on hardy)
[18:00] <tuhoojabotti> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/installingjaunty09.png -> when I choose intalls them by side, it selects my 500GB drive and I can't find a way to change it to use 160GB one which has 74GB unpartitied space.
[18:00] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, which ones?
[18:00] <r3dux> sebastien, there's the problem....
[18:01] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, ATI. I'm currently runing Ubuntu off the liveCD
[18:01] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: still problem with the site ? "pleasease enable JavaScript in order to log in."
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Java is not javascript...
[18:01] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: JavaScript it is not the same as java
[18:01] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I can mount my harddrive.
[18:01] <r3dux> I love linux. I just can't get my gf to use it, because she just wants things to work, and windows mostly does.
[18:01] <sebsebseb> r3dux: and non technical users that are wanting to learn,  could install it :)  and do some stuff with it
[18:01] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: check firefox settings
[18:01] <lazermouse> how do i install alice ( www.alice.org ) on ubuntu 8.10
[18:01] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: blame the hardware manufacturers...
[18:01] <billw> can someone help me connect my zune to ubuntu 8.10?
[18:01] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, if you installed them in the livecd, then rebooting will fix it
[18:01] <ltcabral> what command can i use to download a file from a CVS? i have the repository, the directory and the file name
[18:01] <sebsebseb> r3dux: at the end of the day installing Ubuntu is way easier than installing  Windows XP
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> r3dux:  untill they dont work...  then its ... well.. i wont start..
[18:01] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: im clearing all the cookies in firefox.........this should not happen when items are updated.
[18:01] <lazermouse> i mean 9.04
[18:01] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, or are you using it repair another installation?
[18:02] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: Edit > Preferences > Content
[18:02] <r3dux> We need open source hardware. GOOD open source hardware.
[18:02] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: there you can enable JavaScript if you disabled it by mistake
[18:02] <GeorgeJ> mm
[18:02] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, When I booted it after installation of the proprietary driver, I had black screen. I rebooted with liveCD and all was fine.
[18:02] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: checked - enable javascript ticked , enable java ticked
[18:02] <boss_mc> ah I see, are you on that computer now?
[18:03] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: and still you get the error ?
[18:03] <unnamedplayer_> I am.
[18:03] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: In a world ruled by big corporations, there will be no such things. Its a conspiracy, you see..
[18:03] <sebsebseb> r3dux: well  there is some for servers, but desktops nah
[18:03] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: yes - is there any known sites I can check  - it may be the site having problems ?
[18:03] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, yeah
[18:03] <boss_mc> hmmm, easiest way is to boot into recovery mode (won't load the drivers, drops to a shell) then change your xorg.conf to not have Driver "fglrx" in it
[18:04] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, ^
[18:04] <r3dux> It'll happen - we're on the right track and on our way.
[18:04] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: gmail ? pretty much every site on internet nowadays uses JavaScript
[18:04] <r3dux> Microsoft will fold
[18:04] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, And how do I go about doing that?
[18:04] <r3dux> In time.
[18:04] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, actually, you can do it from the liveCD if you can mount the HD
[18:04] <billw> i am having issues with my zune, i have ubuntu 8.10 and the zune does not show in amarok ... is there a way to fix this ?
[18:04] <GeorgeJ> Yeah, and Apple will start selling more.
[18:04] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, HD mounted...now what?
[18:04] <GeorgeJ> Wich gets us exactly back where we started.
[18:05] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, navigate to /etc/X11/ on that drive
[18:05] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ and r3dux     well  Canoncial is a company and they are behind Ubuntu, but if they were to have most of the market, they probably woudn't screw us over like Microsoft,  because Canoncail are an opensource and freesoftware company.   oh and those that think  it would be better if Apple had most of the market, probably not quite
[18:05] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, backup the xorg.conf there (sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak)
[18:05] <r3dux> Actually, maybe MS will never fold, but just keep people in the Open Source community keeping pace - which might not be a bad thing
[18:05] <TX-Dan> ok, I'm confused... would the syntax be "chown -R user /dir" ...?
[18:05] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, directory open
[18:05] <erUSUL> TX-Dan: tes
[18:06] <erUSUL> TX-Dan: yes
[18:06] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, backed up xorg.conf?
[18:06] <lazermouse> people have frozen in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:06] <TX-Dan> chown: cannot access `/dir': No such file or directory
[18:06] <sebsebseb> lazermouse: r3dux should be going there really
[18:06] <GeorgeJ> The problem with opensource is the financial part. The part wich motivates most people nowadays. It's not completely dead but not as rich as closed source software makers.
[18:06] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, would it be "xorg.conf.20090508151249"?
[18:07] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, should be one called just xorg.conf
[18:07] <r3dux> Why don't hardware manufacturers talk to linux people? They talk to Microsoft and make everything work out of the box? What am I missing so they don't talk to Sun or Novell or Cannonical?
[18:07] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, no numbers/letters after
[18:07] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, there is that as well
[18:07] <sebsebseb> !ot | r3dux
[18:07] <r3dux> Offtopic, eh?
[18:07] <r3dux> Oh well.
[18:07] <r3dux> Night al.
[18:07] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, that's the one that it's using, so back it up (although, as it doesn't work at the moment... not much point)
[18:07] <sebsebseb> r3dux: Hardare Manufactures have been locked into Microsoft since the 90's
[18:07] <r3dux> Night "all".
[18:07] <lazermouse> sebsebseb: :D Usually there would be a bit of banter in there allright
[18:08] <TX-Dan> erUSUL, getting "chown: cannot access `/dir': No such file or directory" Any ideas?
[18:08] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: Its the market
[18:08] <sebsebseb> r3dux: just like most computer users have
[18:08] <boss_mc> night r3dux
[18:08] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, so open it, save it under a different name?
[18:08] <r3dux> nn - thanks for your time, and your patience.
[18:08] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: The ratio of linux users / windows users tends to window's favor
[18:08] <boss_mc> are you using the terminal or the file manager (you should be in the terminal)
[18:08] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, are you using the terminal or the file manager (you should be in the terminal)
[18:08] <chemfun>  lets try this again
[18:08] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ: he is gone now, so I guess we can get things more on topic here again
[18:09] <Damo86> hey
[18:09] <Damo86> where can i get irc op help
[18:09] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I'm in file manager, but I don't know how to navigate to that drive in terminal
[18:09] <chemfun> question for you all, I'm the tech guy at a school.  Really new to linux.  I purchased 4 Asus eee PC 4G.  Hated the native OS so I installed Ubuntu and followed the instructions to get the Kernel that works best with the eee pc's.  I'd love to be able to use our server (2003) to allow the students to login with their windows username.  I discovered the activedirectoryhowto on the wiki. ...
[18:09] <chemfun> ...Unfortunately it states that I need ubuntu server to connect to AD.  Is there a way that I can connect to AD with Ubuntu Desktop, or is there an easy way to configure the server to have a x windows environment?
[18:09] <chemfun> I've currently got server installed on my test eee box, but before I blow away another, I'd like to ask those that know more than I.
[18:09] <sebsebseb> Damo86: for what?
[18:09] <Damo86> nickname isue
[18:09] <sebsebseb> Dam0: #freenode
[18:09] <Dam0> nickserv identify fuzzyhall21
[18:10] <sebsebseb> join the channel I just mentioned
[18:10] <System404> hey guys amarok wont play any of my music
[18:10] <joaopinto> chemfun, ubuntu server is not a specific version, is just a regular minimal ubuntu, with a set of server packages on the cd
[18:10] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, look at the top of the filemanager, that should tell you where it's mounted
[18:10] <System404> rythmbox works fine but i wanted to use amarok for its equaliser feature but it wont play anything why is this
[18:11] <joaopinto> chemfun, whatever you need froom "ubuntu server" is available the repositories
[18:11] <sebsebseb> System404: amarok I really don't get why it's so popular.   Rythombox is ok, and Banshee :)  as of  8.10     8.04 probably still has old rubbish version
[18:11] <sebsebseb> System404: try #kubuntu
[18:11] <leoncino240> salve
[18:11] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, It says 248.7 GB Media, etc x11
[18:11] <chemfun> that's VERY helpful
[18:11] <System404> i do like rythmbox sebsebseb but it has no equaliser i wanted amarok for its equaliser feature
[18:12] <boss_mc> ok, open a terminal and type cd /media and press enter
[18:12] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, ok, open a terminal and type cd /media and press enter
[18:12] <sebsebseb> System404: well Banshee has an  equaliser :)
[18:12] <alberto2000> iphone question: anyone knows how to play mp3s (which i transfered to iphone via ssh) with standard ipod application?
[18:12] <chemfun> Do you know of a wiki to turn the desktop version into a GUI that will be able to talk to my server 2003 AD?
[18:12] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, bash: cd: media: No such file or directory
[18:12] <System404> banshee ill try giving that a go cheers sebsebseb
[18:12] <sebsebseb> System404: no problem
[18:12] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, cd /media
[18:12] <leoncino240> ciaoo
[18:12] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, the slash is important
[18:12] <sebsebseb> System404: Amarok and Rythombox  no thanks,  Banshee :)
[18:13] <simplexio> System404: you can define systemwide equalizer with alsa but it isnt that easy
[18:13] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk, worked that time
[18:13] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, now ls should give you a list of the mounted drives
[18:13] <System404> downloading banshee now
[18:13] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, that's LS (but lower case)
[18:13] <sebsebseb> System404: what's an equalizer anyway, and I just  saw the option in menu in Banshee before I said it had one
[18:13]  * kdub 's gsoc project is a ffmpeg equalizer project
[18:13] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, it says disk
[18:13] <kdub> so should trickle down to rhythmbox eventually
[18:13] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, ok, cd disc/etc/X11
[18:13] <System404> just control over base and treble and such fings
[18:14] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, ok, cd disk/etc/X11
[18:14] <System404> bass*
[18:14] <alberto2000> anyone knows about iphone and ubuntu??
[18:14] <sebsebseb> System404: the music should sound a bit differnet with that feature on?
[18:14] <System404> yeah thats the idea
[18:14] <System404> give it more treble or more base to better suite the song
[18:14] <sebsebseb> System404: yeah I think I used to do that sometimes on my old stereo, before the CD player broke or whatever
[18:14] <sebsebseb> alberto2000: not much, but you won't get much luck with an Iphone and Ubuntu
[18:14] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk
[18:15] <sebsebseb> alberto2000: well you probably got to configure it
[18:15] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, ls will give you all the files in the folder
[18:15] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk
[18:15] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, back up the xorg.conf (sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak)
[18:15] <WinterWeaver> why does evolution sometimes show there is 1 unread email in my inbox, but there is absolutely none >.<
[18:15] <pappunaachnahisa> how do i see which process is using my bandwidth?
[18:16] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk.
[18:16] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, done
[18:16] <sebsebseb> System404: hope you like Banshee :)
[18:16] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, now gksudo gedit xorg.conf
[18:16] <g0wda> how do i see which process is using my bandwidth?
[18:16] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, will open it in a text editor
[18:17] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, opened
[18:17] <System404> sebsebseb i told banshee where my media was stored but it aint coming up
[18:17] <sebsebseb> System404: yeah import it in from the folder
[18:17] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, now somewhere in there should be the line Driver "fglrx" (in the device section)
[18:17] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, remove it
[18:18] <System404> cancel no i told it in preferances where my library was then hit rescan library and bam my music from my ntfs windows partition is now accesable walla
[18:18] <sebsebseb> System404: ok good, and humm music on a Windows partition why?
[18:18] <GeorgeJ> I'm currently having some connection issues with my pppoe connection. It worked just fine on 8.10 but since I upgraded to 9.04, I've been getting timeouts while browsing for some reason. Anyone with some knowledge about this issue? The pppd version in 8.10 is 2.4.4, it got upgraded to 2.4.5 in 9.04.
[18:18] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, no mention of fglrx in it
[18:18] <Dam086> uptime[1w 1d 6h 59m 41s]
[18:18] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, which method did you use to install the drivers?
[18:18] <System404> because windows is my main os im new to linux so just playing around with it for now all my media is stored on my windows partition
[18:19] <whatvn> Dam086: your lappy :-p
[18:19] <acp_> hi I just installed 9.04 during the installation I selected automatically log me in,now that i have installed it how can set it up to ask me a password to log in? im using 9.04 remix
[18:19] <Scunizi> is there a channel for the netbook remix?
[18:19] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, hold one second. Phone
 how do u know?
[18:19] <whatvn> Dam086: I guess :-)
[18:19] <sebsebseb> System404: ah ok
[18:19] <juxbox> does ubuntu support ATI cards out of the box?
[18:19] <Dam086> lol
[18:19] <Scunizi> juxbox: most
[18:20] <Dam086> os[Linux 2.6.28-11-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "jaunty" 9.04] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5500  @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 37.1% free] disk[Total: 105.5GB, 90.9% free] video[nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7900 GS] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[18:20] <boss_mc> juxbox, only later cards will have full 3D support
[18:20] <juxbox> Scunizi: what about kubuntu?
[18:20] <boss_mc> juxbox, smae
[18:20] <Scunizi> juxbox: same
[18:20] <boss_mc> *same
[18:20] <sebsebseb> juxbox: Kubuntu is  just  Ubuntu, but with KDE instead of Gnome
[18:20] <joaopinto> juxbox, yes, but not with the proprietary driver, that requires an user action
[18:20] <Scunizi> juxbox: it has to do with ati drivers not ubuntu or kubuntu
[18:20] <juxbox> ScarEye: well 3 days ago i got kubuntu, and it couldn't support my ati card then x crashed
[18:21] <Vovk> Anyone know which servers/channels I can go to in order to discuss Source based linux distros?
[18:21] <whatvn> juxbox: check if driver installed correctly
[18:21] <joaopinto> Vovk, #linux ?
[18:21] <sebsebseb> Vovk: that's  ##linux  two ##
[18:21] <aliases112> Hello room.
[18:21] <Dam086> Vovk>: #linuxx
[18:21] <joaopinto> juxbox, have you tried to install the restricted driver?
[18:22] <juxbox> whatvn: how can i make sure it's installed properly?
[18:22] <acp_> Scunizi: may be you could help me, how can I configure my ubuntu remix to ask for password first time login?
[18:22] <whatvn> juxbox: lspci , see if your card name appears
[18:22] <mh_> if nothing is added in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  is it the right place to change display settings?
[18:23] <aliases112> Is there a antivirus solution of choice for jaunty?
[18:23] <whatvn> aliases112: clamav
[18:23] <sebsebseb> !virus | aliases112
[18:24] <linduxed> is there a page that describes what the "ls -l" columns mean?
[18:24] <aliases112> thanks whatvn, ubottu!
[18:24] <mh_> aliases112, install noscript for firefox, thats enough
[18:24] <sebsebseb> !thanks | aliases112
[18:24] <mrwes> linduxed, man ls?
[18:24] <sebsebseb> aliases112: I triggered the bot for that page
[18:24] <linduxed> mrwes: it doesnt say a thing
[18:24] <olmari> Anyone able to help me with PXE and ubuntu live?
[18:25] <sebsebseb> aliases112: Linux virus scanners basically only scan for Windows viruses, and  a Linux distro can't get infected by a Windows virus
[18:25] <mrwes> linduxed, did ya google it?
[18:25] <mh_> olmari, you have to ask your question, not for help
[18:25] <whatvn> sebsebseb: but virus written for both, or just for Linux
[18:26] <linduxed> mrwes: yeah, cant find anything sensible
[18:26] <olmari> I have tried to get an server of mine to be PXE boot, and I am succeeded to some point... Jaunty live starts to boos up, but jams into "eth0:link up"
[18:26] <olmari> boot*
[18:26] <sebsebseb> whatvn: only a few viruses in the past have been written for Linux distros, but they stayed in the lab,  there may have been one that went wild years ago, but that won't infect modern distros
[18:26] <sebsebseb> whatvn: also to get a virus installed, you got to install it yourself
[18:26] <olmari> I have followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
[18:26] <sebsebseb> whatvn: or have your computer broken in to, but ther aren't really any viruses as has already been said
[18:27] <turt3l> hello all
[18:27] <Fly-rainning> :)
[18:27] <whatvn> sebsebseb: no virus found != no virus
[18:27] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, back
[18:28] <sebsebseb> whatvn: remind m what != means?
[18:28] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I used the ati 9.5 from the d/l page and thought I make driver packages specific to my distro
[18:28] <whatvn> sebsebseb: I meant *not mean* :-p
[18:28] <mrwes> linduxed, http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uls.htm << read that
[18:28] <sebsebseb> whatvn: you don't need to worry about viruses,  read that link the bot gave,  and you should have a firewall whatever OS your on,   and you should be a bit more concerned about running bad commands when using a Linux distro
[18:28] <olmari> So the question is that what am I doing wrong, I think...
[18:28] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, unfortunately my hardware is too old for that
[18:29] <sebsebseb> whatvn: commands that could delete your system,   sadly sometimes there are such people who think it is funny to give out such commands here, but the ops tend to pick up on that and boot them
[18:29] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, did you use http://wiki.cchtml.com?
[18:29] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, ummm....no.
[18:29] <linduxed> mrwes: thx a heap
[18:30] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, so you ran the program, hit create distribution specific packages and then installed them all?
[18:30] <mrwes> linduxed, sure -- pretty good explanation on ls
[18:30] <whatvn> sebsebseb: I'm not a Linux expert, but I have been using Linux for 4 years. i think I know what to do
[18:30] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, yeah exactly
[18:30] <sebsebseb> whatvn: why were you asking about antivirus then?
[18:30] <boss_mc> and you didn't edit your xorg.conf?
[18:30] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, and you didn't edit your xorg.conf?
[18:30] <whatvn> sebsebseb: I didn't ask
[18:31] <mrwes> whatvn, isn't everyone an expert after two years?
[18:31] <mrwes> heh
[18:31] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, as far as I know no.
[18:31] <GeorgeJ> sebastien: Are you implying that linux is not affected by viruses?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> whatvn: ah ha that was the other guy
[18:31] <boss_mc> GeorgeJ, pretty much
[18:31] <kdub> hostile channel today...
[18:31] <sebsebseb> aliases112: read the stuff above that I said to whatvn
[18:32] <mattgyver> Where are alias stored at?
[18:32] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, can you pastebin me you xorg.conf please?
[18:32] <shiznebit> viruses, linux, where ?
[18:32] <boss_mc> !pastebin | unnamedplayer_
[18:32] <whatvn> sebsebseb: but i keep my idea we do need antivirus, that why people keep writing av for Linux
[18:32] <mattgyver> !alias
[18:32] <olmari> So... as said live jaunty starts to boot up trough network, vmlinuz and initrd.gz loads fine... then there comes that basic linux initialisation text for awhile, until there reads "eth0: link up" and it sits there forever
[18:32] <kdub> mattgyver: ~/.bashrc are the aliases ran upon starting a terminal. entering any alias command will affect that terminal immediately
[18:32] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, where do I enter that command?
[18:32] <GeorgeJ> Well, you are pretty wrong, the only reason other systems, like Windows for example, have more viruses is because it has more users, wich makes it more suitable for a virus target.
[18:32] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ: a virus could be written for a Linux distro, but   the user would have to install it themselves and know what they are doing, or  get there computer broken in to, which again is not so likely when running a Linux distro,  even if no firewall
[18:33] <mattgyver> thank you kdub
[18:33] <olmari> I don't know what I have done wrong :-/
[18:33] <GeorgeJ> sebastien: Not realy
[18:33] <sebsebseb> whatvn: antivuris software for Linux that scans for Windows viruses that don't infect Linux distro yeah
[18:33]  * shiznebit remembers the tutroial to install a virus
[18:33] <sebsebseb> !virus
[18:33] <hatter243> Is it possible to boot into single user mode (root shell) without this "recovery menu" thing? It doesn't appear to like my keyboard and fills the screen with "^[[B"
[18:33] <whatvn> GeorgeJ: who?
[18:34] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, go to paste.ubuntu.com and upload your xorg.conf then give me the URL you are given on the next page
[18:34] <mattgyver> kdub, can you configure .bashrc to be stored elsewhere, IE on a SDcard USB drive and loaded from there?
[18:34] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk one sec
[18:34] <sebsebseb> shiznebit: there was a script someone could make or whatever that would delete contents of home,  but that dosan't really count as a virus
[18:34] <GeorgeJ> sebastien: Same goes for other OSs, linux can be broken into aswell remotely, also the users are the faulty components in getting viruses, not the OS
[18:34] <whatvn> sebsebseb: I don't talk with a bot, you don't want to understand what i said
[18:34] <GeorgeJ> Its basicaly a matter of targeting
[18:34] <kdub> mattgyver: the command 'source /path/to/new/bashrc' will do the same thing
[18:35] <whatvn> GeorgeJ: right!
[18:35] <chemikalz> i have my alsa mixer selected and i cant hear any music
[18:35] <chemikalz> iv tried 2 players now
[18:35] <kdub> you can also configure your terminal program probably
[18:35] <shiznebit> sebsebseb: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html
[18:35] <shiznebit> :D
[18:35] <Fexs> Hi 1517 Users =D
[18:35] <shiznebit> nobody do that please
[18:36] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ: targetting and Windows never bing designed to be properly secure in the first place
[18:36] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/178129/
[18:36] <chemikalz> sebsebseb: can you help me with banshee the program you suggested? I have alsa mixer selected, this is a new problem, i was listening to music in RB yesterday
[18:36] <sebsebseb> most Linux distros have been designed to be pretty secure from the begining,  with Windows, security was a bolt on
[18:36] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, wow, short, can you do the same with /var/log/Xorg.0.log please?
[18:36] <GeorgeJ> I dont understand why people have this conception about viruses, there is no OS that is immune to malware. Nor there will ever be as long as there are users operating them. And, yes, i do agree, holes in security are fixed fasters on open source OSes, but that doesn't mean there were never there, also that requires the user to upgrade, in most cases.
[18:36] <GeorgeJ> sebastien: There are many fields to security.
[18:37] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, It's not in that directory
[18:37] <chemikalz> i have penetration test software, but really all u need on linux is firewall, and maybe av
[18:37] <kdub> furthermore, there's more under-the-hood transparency that lets a good administrator see what programs are doing in lunx
[18:37] <zek> I am trying to install stage.  i am building from source using cmake  .   I get a ton of errors during the make part of the build.  some of the errors are:   libstage.so.3.0.1: undefined reference to `Fl_Button::Fl_Button(int, int, int, int, char const*)'
[18:37] <zek> libstage.so.3.0.1: undefined reference to `Fl_File_Chooser::Fl_File_Chooser(char const*, char const*, int, char const*)'
[18:37] <zek> libstage.so.3.0.1: undefined reference to `Fl_Window::resize(int, int, int, int)'
[18:37] <zek> libstage.so.3.0.1: undefined reference to `fl_choice(char const*, char const*, char const*, char const*, ...)'
[18:37] <kdub> s/lunx/linux
[18:37] <FloodBot1> zek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, wait different directory
[18:37] <zek> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[18:37] <zek> make[2]: *** [libstage/stage] Error 1
[18:37] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ: I never said that any OS was 100% immune from malware
[18:37] <boss_mc> zek you need libfltk1.0-dev
[18:37] <whatvn> sebsebseb: av scan for not only virus, you know?
[18:38] <sebsebseb> whatvn: Linux spyware ha ha I doubt it
[18:38] <martin____> i have problems with my soundblaster audigy SE in kubuntu 9.04
[18:38] <alakoo> I can't get my microphone working argh
[18:38] <martin____> the drivers are not loaded
[18:38] <kdub> zek: it looks to me like you may be building against an out-of-date object
[18:38] <shiznebit> the first to do anything is to find exploits
[18:38] <grawity> sebsebseb: Unix spyware _does_ exist. (Though it's really rare.)
[18:38] <whatvn> sebsebseb: you think we only have virus and spyware :-p
[18:38] <GeorgeJ> I know this for sure, windows has better memory management, it takes a lot more effort to read the ram asigned to an application than with other OSs, i know this applies to Macs, but i've no clues if this also aplies to modern linux kernels aswell
[18:38] <zek> boss_mc: i just build fltk,  so i need the dev package?  sorry about the flood thing  didnt mean to do that
[18:38] <martin____> seems that some kernel update fked up something
[18:38] <sebsebseb> whatvn: of course not, I know about rootkits
[18:38] <sebsebseb> whatvn: and backdoors
[18:39] <martin____> module is CA0160
[18:39] <shiznebit> the thing is the devs are so aware that even if someone finds any exploit, they wont have much time to do anything
[18:39] <tank-man> lol
[18:39] <kdub> GeorgeJ: is that an anecdotal claim?
[18:39] <sebsebseb> I think all this virus stuff is
[18:39] <sebsebseb> !ot
[18:39] <boss_mc> zek, sorry, I wasn't thinking, you need to add a dependency of the library to the cmake (I don't know how though :-:))
[18:39] <zek> kdub: what does that mean?  i got the verson the install guide says to get
[18:39] <GeorgeJ> Yeah thats the only thing, its rare, because it has no point. Why target an OS with users that are pretty handy with computers and can avoid geting infected easily when you got a LOT more Windows users?
[18:39] <whatvn> sebsebseb: tell me why they keep writing av just to scan for windows virus?
[18:39] <martin____> FATAL: Module CA0160 not found.
[18:39] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/178132/
[18:40] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ: most Windows users run it with an admin account all the time, that's the main reason there is such much malware written for it
[18:40] <tank-man> "I know this for sure" how do you know this for sure if you don't have the windows source to examine
[18:40] <chimera4u> what is the python development package called in Ubuntu?
[18:40] <martin____> oh, sry FATAL: Module CA0106 not found
[18:40] <ManDay> Hi there guys. I want a program (xterm / gnome-terminal) to run upon login into x. is  it enought to put the according command "gnome-terminal" into the .bashrc ?
[18:40] <zek> How do i add a dependency of the library  to cmake?
[18:40] <kdub> zek: what's happening is the linker can't find the symbol the source references. this can mean its out of date, or not there at all
[18:40] <raylu> whatvn: it scans for all kinds of virii... it just so happens that those make up the great majority of them
[18:40] <Pici> chimera4u: python-dev
[18:40] <zek> kdub:  how should i fix that?
[18:40] <GeorgeJ> There are, and will always be, even if minuscule, bugs that can exploited, even in linux software, gateways for viruses and worms to get in, and you don't need any user interaction for them to settle in
[18:40] <juxbox> so anybody here uses ATI cards?
[18:41] <chimera4u> Pici: that worked thanks
[18:41] <whatvn> raylu: you're absolutely right
[18:41] <sebsebseb> !ot | malwarediscussion
[18:41] <Tasbuntu> Hello, I need help with my Sound configuration xD; I'm running Jaunty on a Macbook 5,1, and recently the  community documentation introduced an excerpt on how to enable full stereo sound(before, only the right speaker worked) However, in following those instructions I seem to have killed all my sound! And not just in Ubuntu either, it also happens when I boot up my computer into rEFIt
[18:41] <iceroot> ManDay: try gnome-terinal -e "your command"
[18:41] <unnamedplayer_> juxbox, Lose the ATI It's causing me nothing but probs right now
[18:41] <boss_mc> juxbox, I used to until ATI dropped support for my card...
[18:41] <martin____> btw, can i completely remove ubuntu kernels?
[18:41] <kdub> zek: 'do linking correctly' :)
[18:41] <martin____> all of them?
[18:41] <iceroot> ManDay: dnt know if it is working with bashrc
[18:41] <Fexs> Fexs - Any1 got a Spread Ubutun Button for website?
[18:41] <iceroot> Fexs: ubuntu.com
[18:41] <kdub> martin____: yes, as long as you drop another linux kernel in
[18:41] <ManDay> i know iceroot. i need to know where to put it because im not sure whether putting it into bashrc will run it proplery
[18:41] <ManDay> but ill try
[18:41] <ManDay> thanks
[18:42] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: do you have a R500 ATI card or less ?
[18:42] <zek> kdub: what?
[18:42] <juxbox> well mine is brand new ATI
[18:42] <martin____> kdub: k, ty, ill build one myself, the genkernel breaks too often (how i hate taht)
[18:42] <whatvn> sebsebseb: you better talking with bot than with people, i think
[18:42] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, It seems that X is using the open source Radeon driver (as you want it to...)
[18:42] <unnamedplayer_> shiznebit, it's older I know that much
[18:42] <zek> the results from cmake i think shows all the libraries are found
[18:42] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, so I'm not sure what is causing a black screen
[18:42] <shiznebit> all R500 and less cards are unsupported by the Radeon Driver
[18:42] <kdub> zek: without the exact setup you have, i cant really help you much further
[18:43] <sebsebseb> whatvn: malware on Linux discussion,  I have been part of them, quite a few times
[18:43] <Fexs> Ty iceroot,i couldnt find any there, ill make a custom =/
[18:43] <sebsebseb> whatvn: and it's the kind of thing I expect newbies to be going on about loads, not more experienced users
[18:43] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, can I See what files were on my desktop?
[18:43] <kdub> martin____: i have a vanilla kernel to develop with, but i keep the ubuntu kernel on my machine and use that 85% of the time
[18:43] <whatvn> sebsebseb: up to you!
[18:43] <sebsebseb> whatvn: ,because they are worried that they will get a virus or whatever,  when us more experienced users know, that's pretty unlikely at this time with any Linux distro
[18:43] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, they'll be on the mounter HD under /home/<yourname>/Desktop
[18:44] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk I'll show you what package names I installed
[18:44] <zek> does anyone know how to make sure the right libraries are linked?
[18:44] <boss_mc> ldd binaryname
[18:44] <Fzang> Hi there. Does anyone know how to or have tried to rename the "filesystem" partition?
[18:44] <ManDay> ermm stupid question whats the ubuntu icon in front of a package name indicating in synaptic??
[18:44] <martin____> kdub: btw, do you know a cmd which spits out all the modules which can be loaded?
[18:44] <Fzang> I'd imagine it's just a nickname
[18:45] <ztechnokid> sup
[18:45] <whatvn> sebsebseb: soon or later, we all need antivirus for Linux. so why not tell our users install av now? huh?
[18:45] <ianto> ManDay: That it is a supported app by Canonical
[18:45] <ManDay> ah great thanks
[18:45] <shiznebit> whatvn: your spaming
[18:45] <sebsebseb> whatvn: ,because those av programs are pretty pointless at the moment, because they only/mainly  scan for  Windows viruses
[18:45] <Pici> !offtopic | whatvn
[18:45] <kdub> martin____: they exist in /lib/modules and end in ko. 'find /lib/modules | grep ko$'
[18:45] <martin____> kdub: thanks
[18:46] <sebsebseb> Pici: thank you :)
[18:46] <kn100> plus linux's user/root system makes getting a virus that does any damage HARD
[18:46] <whatvn> shiznebit: that is what you think. I stop now, I said we need av for linux and I'm spaming? :-p.
[18:46] <bin1010> hey guys, I have to nic cards connected to the internet.  If one goes down I just want it to failover to the other.  Right now if the first one is not up or just can't get to that part of the internet...whatever....i currently have to wait a period of time before it failovers to the other....Is there a way to speed this up?
[18:46] <whatvn> bye all!
[18:47] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, "fglrx-amdcccle_8.612-)unbuntu1_i386.deb", "fglrx-kernel-source_8.162-0ubntu1_i386.deb", "fglrx-modaliases_8.612-0ubuntu1_i396.deb", "libamdxvba1_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" and "xorg-driver-fglrx_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"
[18:47] <Fexs> Bye Wahtvn
[18:47] <sebsebseb> good the  malware discussion can end now :)
[18:47] <wiijii> Any suggestions for removing 'Unsupported Hardware' watermark with fglrx drivers?
[18:47] <zek> libstage.so.3.0.1: undefined reference to `Fl_Text_Buffer::~Fl_Text_Buffer()'  do you guys know what library im missing?
[18:47] <simplexio> kn100: there is no virus in wild for linux currently that im aware. thoght there are alot stupid commands that you can use to destroy system when using root user
[18:47] <JohnWittle> Does APT have its own support channel? My database is unusually large.
[18:47] <martin____> kdub: aaaah, broken :P http://rafb.net/p/QCYnyj51.html
[18:47] <boss_mc> zek, that's libfltk
[18:48] <Pici> zek: Whats wrong with install stage out of the repos?
[18:48] <olmari> So... no one know anything about PXE live booting? ;)
[18:48] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, "fglrx-amdcccle_8.612-)unbuntu1_i386.deb", "fglrx-kernel-source_8.162-0ubntu1_i386.deb", "fglrx-modaliases_8.612-0ubuntu1_i396.deb", "libamdxvba1_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" and "xorg-driver-fglrx_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"
[18:48] <wiijii> Anyone?
[18:48] <kn100> simplexio but the need of root is almost nulk
[18:48] <kn100> nil
[18:48] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, yeah, did you have it working before you installed them?
[18:48] <zek> Pici: because it requires player and i need a newer build than is in the repository
[18:48] <Chr|s> !anyone | wiijii
[18:48] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me where and how to adjust the main-menu so the items for "shutdown" etc dont appear in it anymore?!
[18:48] <wiijii> 'Unsupported Hardware' AMD watermark removal?
[18:48] <kn100> specially in ubuntu since root account is disabled
[18:48] <kdub> martin____: what exactly are you trying to do with your kernel?
[18:48] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: you gots to purge all those packages
[18:48] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, Yeah the open source worked display wise, I was having choppy results though in Nexuiz and tried to fix it with the proprietary drivers
[18:49] <Pici> zek: If you're still installing the build dependencies out of the repositories you can do: sudo apt-get build-dep stage
[18:49] <Chr|s> ManDay: System > Preferences > Main Menu
[18:49] <unnamedplayer_> shiznebit, How do I purge them only running off the livdCD?
[18:49] <martin____> martin____: modprobing the module for my card which isnt loaded any more: sudo modprobe snd-ca0106
[18:49] <unnamedplayer_> shiznebit, liveCD*
[18:49] <Hekos> hey, im searching for some kind of backup utility..  i want my home folder to be saved + the dpkg list.. so that i must only save the /home and all programs would be installed from cd or repo ...
[18:49] <ManDay> Chr|s, I don't see options for everything there
[18:50] <IndyGunFreak> !backup | Hekos
[18:50] <boss_mc> shiznebit, but he's not got a graphical interface... and rescue mode does not have apt-get by default
[18:50] <ManDay> Chr|s, there is nothing to remove the shutdown button etc is there?
[18:50] <kdub> martin____: ubuntu kernel, or vanilla?
[18:50] <noel_> i'm a ubuntu noob and I am trying to create a custom liveCD using remastersys.  had success doing that, but I would like to change the default wallpaper, desktop shortcuts, etc.  how do I change these?  I read something about modifying /etc/skel but all i have there is an Examples link
[18:50] <zek> Pici: what does build-dep do?
[18:50] <Hekos> good enough :3
[18:50] <martin____> martin____: newest genkernel
[18:50] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: in your grub menu enter in to the 2nd option
[18:50] <martin____> martin____: ubuntu
[18:50] <Pici> zek: Installs all the build dependencies for that package.
[18:50] <boss_mc> zek, installs all packages needed to build the package
[18:50] <Chr|s> ManDay: you talking about the panel or the menu?
[18:50] <martin____> kdub: 2.6.28-11-generic
[18:51] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: i believe there should be a command prompt way to enter through there
[18:51] <zek> in the repository,  player is called robot-player.  wont that cause problems with paths and such
[18:51] <unnamedplayer_> shiznebit, I get near blank screen when I boot though.
[18:51] <shiznebit> in grub too ?
[18:51] <ManDay> Well the menu. No matter whether I choose "Main Menu" or "Menu Bar" the Properties Dialog doesnt offer anything to fully customize it,  Chr|s
[18:51] <unnamedplayer_> shiznebit, yeah
[18:51] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, he means before ubuntu boots, when grub appears on the screen (press esc if prompted)
[18:51] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I don't get that
[18:52] <Pici> zek: It shouldnt, build-dep generally installs -dev packages
[18:52] <shiznebit> thats a problem
[18:52] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, that suggests a broken mbr
[18:52] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, pardon?
[18:52] <zek> Pici: so it shouldnt harm my player build.  cause i really dont want to deal with that
[18:52] <kdub> martin____: obviously the module is not built for the kernel...
[18:52] <Chr|s> ManDay: What do you exactly want to do? Their is nothing in the gnome menu to remove the shut down button
[18:52] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I've got perfect picture running the livecd
[18:52] <kdub> martin____: not built for _that_ specific kernel
[18:53] <Pici> zek: The build dependences for a package are not the same as the actual dependencies for a package.
[18:53] <Chr|s> ManDay: If your talking about the Top Panel to the far right, you just right click and remove
[18:53] <martin____> kdub: hm, ye im filing a bug
[18:53] <zek> Pici: ok thanks
[18:53] <vigo> Is there a Force Quit widget, icon that can be used on 8.04.2?
[18:53] <ManDay> I see Chr|s and thats what bothers me.  Same for the "Menu bar". I cant remove the shortcut to "Places" from it?
[18:53] <ManDay> !
[18:53] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, yeah, but if you're not even getting to the grub screen, that sugests that the drive is not booting properly at all, and it's not a graphical issue...
[18:53] <sebsebseb> vigo: maybe and if not you can add something similar I thik to the panel
[18:53] <sebsebseb> vigo: well yeah a quit button
[18:53] <Pici> vigo: If there isnt, you can make your own launcher for xkill, which is the program that the 'widget' runs
[18:54] <sebsebseb> vigo: shut down button
[18:54] <sebsebseb> vigo: oh app closing nevermind
[18:54] <sp0ckk> How come I've done a dist-upgrade, yet every application still seems like old version. VLC for example, isn't at the latest release. I've installed 8.10, but I thought a dist-upgrade brought you upto date and onto the latest release, including repos etc?
[18:54] <vigo> Thank you all kindly.
[18:54] <Chr|s> ManDay: I'm not entirely sure, if you make a custom menu yes I think, but why would you want to remove Places?
[18:54] <zek> Pici: i still get the same errors
[18:55] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I may be talking out my ass here....isn't there someway I can either uninstall those packages using the liveCD or maybe delte references to them?
[18:55] <vigo> I use to have one, but I forgot what dpkg or offset it was.
[18:55] <ManDay> Simply because I want a custom menu. And I dont want a link to "places" in there
[18:55] <olmari> Okay... anyone know where could I ask help about PXE booting not working? :)
[18:55] <Pici> zek: I don't know what to tell you then.  The source package that you have should tell you what its dependencies are, perhaps in the README or INSTALL files
[18:55] <ManDay> I dunno whats the point of the custom menu if you can hardly configure it besides the subentries
[18:55] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, I'm saying that you might have a more serious problem than those packages
[18:55] <ManDay> , Chr|s
[18:55] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, grub should always be shown on boot
[18:56] <noel_> i'm a ubuntu noob and I am trying to create a custom liveCD using remastersys.  had success doing that, but I would like to change the default wallpaper, desktop shortcuts, etc.  how do I change these?  I read something about modifying /etc/skel but all i have there is an Examples link
[18:56] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, that has nothing to do with drivers/ubuntu/linux etc
[18:56] <zek> Pici: i have the dependencies installed.  i dont think they are linking correctly or something.
[18:56] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, give me one second here. I'll see what I can see.
[18:56] <ranf> !info vlc
[18:56] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, coming to think of it, I may not have seen the initial boot sequence
[18:56] <Conchaman> eyyyy
[18:56] <Conchaman> k pachaaaa
[18:56] <Pici> zek: Its also possible that the source has new dependencies compared to the version from the repositories
[18:56] <ManDay> oh crap... never and I say NEVER consider to put a "gnome-terminal" into your .bashrc
[18:56] <pschorf> is there a way to enable remote desktop sharing from the terminal?
[18:56] <ManDay> thats NOT what you want
[18:57] <freeanshu> noel: can u tell me where to get remastersys?
[18:57] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, brb
[18:57] <sebsebseb> !language | ManDay
[18:57] <ManDay> can anyone tell me where to place a command for execution upon startup?!
[18:57] <martin____> kdub: it broke too often so i just built my own -.-
[18:57] <freeanshu> noel: I am also trying to do the same thing
[18:57] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: o_O
[18:57] <zek> Pici: i went to the stage install guide and get the stuff it told me to
[18:57] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, hey wait if I do get it...what can I do?
[18:58] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, if you get it, chose the option labelled recovery mode (probably the second one) that will give you a command line
[18:58] <noel_> freeanshu: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys  look at the comments for the right repo
[18:58] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk then what? (I'm writting it down)
[18:58] <freeanshu> noel: thanks a ton
[18:58] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, in which you can do dpkg --purge all-those-packages-you-listed-above
[18:58] <noel_> u can also just install UCK that is easy to use, but even with that i dont know how to customize
[18:59] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, although the packages will be called fgrlx-amdcccle
[18:59] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, not fglrxamdcccle-21.5.-ubuntu.etc
[18:59] <pschorf> is there a way to enable remote desktop sharing from the terminal?
[18:59] <boss_mc> have you no other computer?
[18:59] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_:  you can then do sudo apt-get purge *_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[19:00] <ubuntiana> ubuntu.it
[19:00] <shiznebit> that should get rid of all of them
[19:00] <noel_> freeanshu:  let me know if u figure out the customization part, i would recommend UCK if all u want to do is add packages
[19:00] <boss_mc> shiznebit, really? they were installed with gdebi so apt-get knows nothing about them, and the package name does not contain any of the characters you wrote...
[19:00] <Chr|s> ManDay: hmm I see.. That is odd, i'm not sure to tell you the truth, their has to be some way, idle in here, maybe someone else could help you.
[19:01] <ManDay> ok thanks Chr|s
[19:01] <shiznebit> boss_mc: you might be right
[19:01] <ubuntiana> #ubuntuit
[19:01] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu-it
[19:01] <grawity> ubuntiana: /join #ubuntu-it
[19:01] <Chr|s> !it | ubuntiana
[19:01] <shiznebit> boss_mc: i had the same problem but dont remember which way i used to get rid of them
[19:01] <whatsinaname> I have SSH installed, but i can not connect unless my headless box is logged in as a user.  I thought I could ssh in with out having a user logged in.  Please help. thanks
[19:02] <martin____> kdub: how are the vanilla sources called?
[19:02] <shiznebit> boss_mc: if anything it'll save alot of typing
[19:02] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I do what to do "sudo apt-get purge"? (No insult meant by asking for second opinion just getting two sources of info)
[19:02] <freeanshu> noel: i need to do a bit more
[19:02] <freeanshu> noel: i changed the boot splash
[19:02] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: no insult take, im no ubuntu god
[19:02] <noel_> freeanshu: how u do that?
[19:03] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, no offence taken, if you installed the packages by double clicking on them, I'd use dpkg --purge <names> to remove them
[19:03] <freeanshu> noel: few more stuffs with GRUB
[19:03] <freeanshu> noel: there are lot of sites telling that
[19:03] <shiznebit> boss_mc: would dpkg --purge *_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb   work ?
[19:04] <freeanshu> noel: download the source code and see
[19:04] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, So the package installed "fglrx-amdcccle_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" won't be under that name?
[19:04] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, shiznebit, the numbers after the _ are the version numbers, not the name of the package
[19:04] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, shiznebit, the package name is everything up to the _
[19:04] <freeanshu> noel:http://ubuntusatanic.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=21&page=1
[19:05] <freeanshu> noel: is one of them
[19:05] <shiznebit> boss_mc: oh gotchya
[19:05] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, shiznebit, so to remove the package you don't use the version (except possibly in weird scenarios that I can't think of...)
[19:05] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, So, sorry if this sounds stupid, but I'd use "dpkg --purge fglrx-amdcccle"?
[19:05] <martin____> how do i install the vanilla kernel?
[19:05] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, give the man a biscuit, he's got it!
[19:06] <sebsebseb> martin____: why would you want to?  and I think 9.04's kernel is based on it or something
[19:06] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, in other words, yep :)
[19:06] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, Okie, now let's see if I get grub. bbias
[19:06] <ZeroBeholder> a fish biscuit?
[19:06] <martin____> sebsebseb: because the normal kernel isnt woking
[19:06] <ZeroBeholder> sorry. nevermind
[19:06] <whatsinaname> How can I SSH to headless box with out having a user account logged in?
[19:06] <guntbert> whatsinaname: that looks strange, do you have both computers at hand?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> martin____: you can get a ppa for a later kernel
[19:06] <whatsinaname> yes
[19:06] <boss_mc> ZeroBeholder, nice interjection...
[19:06] <grawity> whatsinaname: What do you mean "without having a user account"?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> martin____: that would probably be better than compiling your own kernel
[19:06] <martin____> sebsebseb: ah ok, thats what im doing right now
[19:06] <shiznebit> which the ubuntu devs set it so you couldn't bork your system if you installed those packages
[19:07] <guntbert> whatsinaname: ah, you said headless, so how do you get " a user logged in" ?
[19:07] <sebsebseb> martin____: ok
[19:07] <vigo> sebsebseb and Pici: found it, right click a panel, + Add to Panel, is a list of such stuff, one is Force Quit.
[19:07] <whatsinaname> grawity my headless box would auto login my account .  I am just now making it headless.
[19:07] <pschorf> is there a way to enable remote desktop sharing from the terminal?
[19:07] <sebsebseb> vigo: yes that's what I said, that you could probably add something like that
[19:07] <RedSocrates> martin____: Out of curiosity, what issues are you having with the 'normal' Ubuntu kernel?
[19:07] <Pici> vigo: Oh. I didn't realize you didn't know how to add a panel applet, sorry.
[19:07] <ZeroBeholder> I'm mostly lurking to read what other people are doing.  I'm a noob.  It's not the best way to learn, but a lot of stuff flies by and some of it is good.
[19:08] <martin____> RedSocrates: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ports-meta/+bug/379494
[19:08] <chaos2fu> hii everybody...does anyone knows what the windowskey is written like when i configure the shortcommands lika <ctrl> and <alt>??
[19:08] <Airion> hi, I've got a problem with my external harddisk, I can mount it, I see how much disk space is left, but i can't see any files... does anyboday have an idea? thx!
[19:08] <boss_mc> chaos2fu, <meta>
[19:08] <vigo> I forget stuff, I had it before, just forgot how to re-enable it.
[19:08] <whatsinaname> grawity I can use putty to ssh into it if it is logged into account, but if I turn of the autologin (leaving box just at login prompt) I can not ssh from another box. connection times out.
[19:08] <grawity> boss_mc: I thought meta == alt?
[19:08] <Pici> whatsinaname: There is no reason for a user to be logged in locally if you are ssh-ing in.
[19:08] <guntbert> ZeroBeholder: its a good way to learn, but please keep your comments/questions on topic
[19:08] <zek> for people who know how to use cmake.  during the make process i get a line that says "Linking CXX shared library libstage.so" in red.  does that mean that it didnt work?
[19:08] <RedSocrates> martin___: Oh, I see.  Thanks.  Was curious because I also had issues with the normal Ubuntu kernel, but they were different ones
[19:08] <vigo> I still thank you kindly. :-)
[19:08] <grawity> whatsinaname: Ah, you mean "not logged in to the GUI"?
[19:09] <sebsebseb> vigo: ok :)
[19:09] <boss_mc> grawity, chaos2fu, hmmmm, could be <super>
[19:09] <grawity> boss_mc: That could be, yes.
[19:09] <whatsinaname> grawity yes, sorry if I am not making sense, kind of new to headless
[19:09] <Jamed> chaos2fu: i'm not sure but i think it's <super>
[19:09] <adityag> i want to replace "aerosmith" with "ar" for every occurence of it in every files(*.php, *.css , *.tpl) & folders, any help will be appreciated!!
[19:10] <zek> what do i do to make sure all my libraries are linked and referenced?
[19:11] <chaos2fu> Thanks jamed and boss_mc for ya help...it was right, super is the thing!
[19:11] <boss_mc> kl
[19:11] <adityag> i want to replace "aerosmith" with "ar" for every occurence of it in every files(*.php, *.css , *.tpl) & folders, any help will be appreciated!!
[19:11] <whatsinaname> grawity I am using 9.04 desktop, and installed webmin.  I didn't want webmin to start at boot so I was going to ssh to box, and start it.  that is when I found problem of not being able to ssh in.
[19:12] <whatsinaname> grawity I am just configuring the box, so I still have monitor connected to it for trouble shooting purposes.  after I get ssh working with out gui logged in it is going in the basement.
[19:12] <guntbert> !webmin | whatsinaname
[19:12] <grawity> whatsinaname: And what part of ssh is not working?
[19:12] <panfist> !ebox
[19:12] <GeorgeJ> whatsinaname: I'm sorry, could you explain your problem again? How does your ssh not work?
[19:13] <mouka> Hi all
[19:13] <whatsinaname> I have SSH installed, but i can not connect unless my headless box is logged in as a user.  I thought I could ssh in with out having a user logged in.
[19:13] <mouka> I am trying to compile ogre 3d from source
[19:13] <whatsinaname> I have SSH installed, but i can not connect unless my headless box is logged in as a user.  I thought I could ssh in with out having a user logged in. (to the GUI)
[19:13] <mouka> but when I try bootstrapping, I get the following error
[19:13] <mouka> anybody can help?
[19:13] <mouka> http://pastebin.com/d1ff943c8
[19:14] <grawity> whatsinaname: Do you have a password set for your account?
[19:14] <grawity> whatsinaname: I think sshd refuses empty passwords
[19:14] <whatsinaname> yes
[19:14] <chaos2fu> hii everyone again! i have a problem with my codecs on ubuntu..when i play movies (avi, divx and so on) the picture is "broken"...its hard to explain, its not lagging but the picture change att different times...anybody got a solution?
[19:14] <whatsinaname> grawity yes I have password set.
[19:15] <grawity> whatsinaname: Can you login to the console? (Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch to the second console, for example. GUI is on Ctrl-Alt-F7)
[19:15] <felix_> !logs
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> chaos2fu: have you installed video drivers?
[19:15] <ManDay> can anyone tell me where to place a command for execution upon startup?!
[19:16] <xplorer> which version u r using
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[19:16] <whatsinaname> grawity yes I just tried now and I can
[19:16] <ManDay> thanks
[19:16] <mrwes> chaos2fu, do you have visual effects enabled?
[19:17] <grawity> whatsinaname: Hmm. Can you open a terminal, and type: sudo tail -f /var/log/{auth.log,syslog}
[19:17] <grawity> whatsinaname: Then try to SSH and see if any new entries appeared in the terminal.
[19:18] <chaos2fu> yes, i have installed video drivers... and no i dont have any visuals effects enabled...im running the ubuntu netbook remix on my acer aspire one and the ubuntu is designed to work on these kind of computers...;-)
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> chaos2fu: linux is designed for all computers
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> chaos2fu: its the config that makes it different
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> chaos2fu: try without visual effects,see if its better
[19:20] <mouka> anybody know how to install properly ogre 3d from source?
[19:21] <mouka> I followed several tutorials, but I keep getting the following error
[19:21] <mouka> http://pastebin.com/d1ff943c8
[19:21] <whatsinaname> grawity ok I am now getting "failed password for invalid user     which is strange because I am logged in with that user on the gui
[19:21] <grawity> whatsinaname: So GUI logins work, console works, SSH doesn't?
[19:22] <chaos2fu> Actionparsnip: sorry man, my fault! i meant that this remix is designed for example acer aspire one among some other netbooks with drivers and that kind of stuff.  By visual effects u mean the one for the whole operating system?
[19:23] <whatsinaname> grawity: correct  access denied.  I must have ssh screwed up somewhere
[19:24] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: OMG IT WORKED
[19:24] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING AWESOME
[19:24] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, language....
[19:24] <UnnamedPlayer> Pardon my language, I got excited
[19:25] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, but still, good to hear it
[19:25] <whatsinaname> excited is good.
[19:25] <ThomasHC1> crash9
[19:25] <whatsinaname> especially when fixing something
[19:25] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: what was the last command?
[19:25] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, the dpkg one?
[19:25] <UnnamedPlayer> The one after purge
[19:25] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, there wasn't one...
[19:26] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: The other person that was helping suggested it
[19:26] <boss_mc> the apt-get one?
[19:26] <boss_mc> it's for installing from the repositories
[19:26] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: If that was the one I asked a second opinion about
[19:26] <boss_mc> but you made the packages yourself so it wouldn't have helped
[19:27] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: sweet man. Hey...any chance if I tried the 9.3 it might work?
[19:27] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, what card, and what version of Ubuntu?
[19:28] <UnnamedPlayer> I forget the command to check which card
[19:28] <whatsinaname> hmm just got webmin running and now people say ebox?  more homework for me.
[19:28] <vigo> lspci or something
[19:28] <UnnamedPlayer> I'm running Jaunty
[19:28] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, lspci
[19:28] <boss_mc> under Jaunty 9.3 won't work
[19:29] <fubada> hey anyone got PS3 ubuntu going
[19:29] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: Which line tells me?
[19:29] <fubada> how come i can only allocate 10gb to PS3 or 10gb to Linux, why is it so limited
[19:29] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, you can't use 9.3 or lower on jaunty due to a new version of X
[19:30] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: Which for some reason was what I was looking for. I started looking for 1.5
[19:30] <vigo> fubada: That is the storage cap on a PS3, I think
[19:30] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: I was directed to ATI d/l page in a round-about way
[19:31] <Slart> whatsinaname: webmin isn't compatible with ubuntu, or so I've heard
[19:31] <Slart> whatsinaname: I still use it to setup my firewall and it works nicely.. but you might want to think before trying any other options in webmin
[19:31] <Tyler> Slart: webmin works fine with ubuntu
[19:31] <whatsinaname> sigh, oh well I will try ebox,  it is always fun to tinker with new stuff (even if webmin was new to me)
[19:31] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, haha, well, I hear it is possible to downgrade to X version 1.5 and use fglrx 9.3 but I guess it would be a traicky manouver
[19:31] <Slart> whatsinaname: ebox is hopeless, imho
[19:31] <Slart> !webmin | Tyler
[19:31] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: Something I'd be willing to try...if not just to learn
[19:32] <Slart> Tyler: apparently the people behind ubuntu doesn't think so
[19:32] <Tyler> Slart: oh, which versions of ubuntu? I have it working fine with 8.04 LTS
[19:32] <Slart> Tyler: as I said.. I haven't run into any issues so far.. but I'm really just using a subset of all the functions
[19:32] <Slart> Tyler: I've seen it mentioned at least a couple of versions back
[19:32] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, it's out of my league then, try googling for downgrade X in jaunty
[19:33] <Tyler> hmm
[19:33] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: thanx
[19:34] <Bjarke1987> Hello
[19:35] <Speckz> Anyone here use WUBI http://wubi-installer.org on Windows 7 yet?
[19:36] <djh816> hey guys, i'm trying to get a broadcom BCM4212 pci  modem working with no luck
[19:36] <djh816> could anybody help me out?
[19:36] <rogue780_> is there a way to get a list of all processes currently accessing the network/binding a port?
[19:36] <kdub> martin____: what do you mean, 'how are the vanilla sources called?'
[19:36] <Pici> rogue780_: sudo lsof
[19:36] <whatsinaname> oh well have to go, grawity thanks for tryin to help.  I will get it figured out sometime, right now its to nice outside to sit here :)
[19:36] <martin____> kdub: yes, but im finsihed with my kernil :)
[19:37] <sebsebseb> Speckz: no and I woudn't even recommend Wubi
[19:37] <sebsebseb> Speckz: as well as plenty of others that come here
[19:37] <Slart> rogue780_: try... lsof -i :portnumber
[19:37] <Slart> rogue780_: not sure if you should put a sudo in front of that or not
[19:37] <shiznebit> UnnamedPlayer: just wait untill the drivers get upgraded
[19:37] <Speckz> sebsebseb, Ok, thank you!
[19:37] <sebsebseb> Speckz: it's better to do real partitions :)
[19:38] <lws> Can somebody help me figure out how to load ath_pci at startup?
[19:38] <lws> No matter what I do, it won't load.  Which is annoying because it is acting as my access point
[19:39] <Speckz> sebsebseb, yes, I know, but for someone who wants to try ubuntu without partitions and whatnot I figured I'd ask to see if it works with W7.
[19:39] <shiznebit> UnnamedPlayer: because it might become a hassle undoing everything once you go down to X 1.5
[19:40] <sebsebseb> Speckz: it probably works, but  there are various reasons why Wubi isn't that good
[19:40] <sebsebseb> Speckz: also if you do a virtual machine you can try Ubuntu inside Windows 7, but really  Windows 7 inside Ubuntu would be better
[19:41] <sebsebseb> Speckz: people can get weird wubi issues also
[19:42] <outofthemadness> is there a way to get the source of a package in the repositories with a makefile and a configure script(ie, not through synaptic)
[19:42] <tanner2007> hey guys, i installed windows 7 and now grub got over written so i cant access ubuntu, now i try to boot from cd to do some instructions to restore it, but all i get is "cannot display this video mode" and idk even know how or if i can acess termnial
[19:42] <boss_mc> outofthemadness, aptitude source packagename
[19:43] <Speckz> sebsebseb, Right, ok. Thanks for the info.
[19:43] <djh816> tanner2007, did you try this one or following a different set of instructions? http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[19:43] <sebsebseb> Speckz: no problem
[19:43] <simplexio> tanner2007: alt+ctrl+f1
[19:44] <tanner2007> djh816 not that guide but a guide, but i cant acces terminal, maybe im doing it worng, what shortcuts open terminal
[19:45] <jdu> tanner2007: alt+f2,  type  gnome-terminal , <enter>
[19:46] <tanner2007> pressing it, nothings happen just says cannot display in thsi vidoe mode
[19:47] <mib_am0tnx> Hi, I have a question about un-installing Ubuntu.... long story short, I have a disk image of my previous XP installation, on a separate hard drive.... Can I just pop in the Ghost CD and reimage this hard drive (there are no partitions other than Ubuntu, I think), and it will bring me back to where I was?
[19:47] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: why you want to get rid of Ubuntu?
[19:47] <tanner2007> so anyone>
[19:48] <mib_am0tnx> Well, I just was testing it out today... but I really need a reputable internet filter with the ability to have a whitelist account and a filtered account
[19:48] <Airion> hi there! I've got a problem with my external harddrive: I can mount it, I see how much space is left, but i can't see any files... does anyboday has an idea what to do? thx!
[19:48] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: that kind of thing can be set up in a Linux distro as well
[19:48] <mib_am0tnx> I wasn't able to find an "easy" solution.... although, I'm not that familiar with Ubuntu, so....
[19:48] <mib_am0tnx> sebsesbseb: what do you mean?
[19:48] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: you can set up Internet filters and so on
[19:48] <fractur3d> mib_am0tnx: i'm sure there is a nice front end to squid proxy somewhere
[19:49] <fractur3d> mib_am0tnx: that will get your internet filtering for you
[19:49] <sebsebseb> Airion: maybe the problem is simpalley that you didn't unmount it in Windows
[19:49] <sebsebseb> Airion: and so  it still thinks  it's running and so Ubuntu can't just open and use it
[19:49] <mib_am0tnx> fractur3d: So, being a Linux newbie.... I was hoping to kind of learn and switch from Windows, but it's getting complicated really fast.... :) Plus, I'm on a workgroup, so I think that complicates things a little.
[19:49] <sysdoc> Anyone using the Ubuntu RT kernel from PPA for Alessio Igor Bogani and does it work with nvidia drivers? I had a real bad experience with the standard kernel from the ubuntu repos.
[19:50] <fractur3d> mib_am0tnx: yea...i can sympathize...you should be able to just reimage and be back in windows before you finish your lunch
[19:50] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: don't give up
[19:51] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: most of the Internet runs on Linux :)
[19:51] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: quite a few companies and so on are going Linux
[19:51] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: on there networks etc
[19:51] <mib_am0tnx> sebsebseb: I know, that's why I wanted to switch! Yet, I need a solution, like, now.
[19:51] <mbs> hi
[19:51] <Airion> sebsebseb: no, i had that problem earlyer and got a message that i can't mount, but no i can mount perfectly, in can go into the folder and see in dolphin how much space is left
[19:51] <mbs> hi
[19:51] <mbs> hi
[19:51] <mbs> hi
[19:51] <FloodBot1> mbs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <mib_am0tnx> fractur3d: I'm considering it, but I'm still hoping
[19:51] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: try finding one in ##linux
[19:51] <bit_o> *me
[19:51] <tanner2007> screw it.
[19:52] <mib_am0tnx> sebsebseb: that's another IRC channel?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: yes
[19:52] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: and a general Linux one
[19:52] <pancho> hola
[19:52] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: humm
[19:52] <sebsebseb> !patience | tanner2007
[19:52] <pancho> tengo inconvenientes con linux debian
[19:53] <cougardn> hi, my computer does not start any more, not even Grub. (all I see after the first screen where I can choose boot device and bios is a blinking cursor. I can not acess the bios, CTR-ALT-ENTF does not work either) any help?
[19:53] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: what was your issue again?
[19:53] <mib_am0tnx> sebsebseb: OK, thanks! If I don't find anything, can I just stick in the ghost CD and reimage? Just point the destination to my main drive? There are no partitions except those that Ubuntu generates, if any
[19:53] <Myrtti> !es | pancho
[19:53] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: yes I assume so, but  you want to get away from Windows :)
[19:53] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: and I know what you want to do can be done, I just don't have the details
[19:53] <mib_am0tnx> sebsebseb: OK, great - thanks!
[19:53] <tanner2007> sebsebseb: grub got over written, and if i boot and try out ubuntu form live cd to try to fix it as said in the guide all i get is cannt dispaly this vdieo mode and cant acces terminal or anything
[19:53] <ubuntu_> yo yo
[19:54] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: now there will be a bit of a learning curve for what you want to do,  you will have to use commands and such probably
[19:54] <cougardn> btw, I have a dualboot system with windows, last system I just shut down (without errors) was Ubuntu
[19:54] <outofthemadness> does anyone know how I might fix my rather unique python problem? I accidentally overwrote the default python install ith stackless and now my sys.path is all screwed up, among other things. Synaptic thinks the version of python installed is the version in the repos, but
[19:54] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: ,but  if you don't give up, the results should be rather good :)
[19:54] <bookmark> what are contrib and non-free called on ubuntu?
[19:54] <Slart> outofthemadness: try doing a reinstall.. apt-get install --reinstall
[19:54] <enzotib> ls -l /media/
[19:54] <cougardn> outofthemadness: remove completely and reinstall?
[19:55] <Slart> bookmark: universe.. and multiverse I think
[19:55] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: oh some odd issue, instead of a standard Grub went bye bye issue
[19:55] <cougardn> !closed-source
[19:55] <Slart> !repos | bookmark
[19:55] <cougardn> !non-free
[19:55] <cougardn> k..
[19:55] <Slart> !search free
[19:55] <outofthemadness> I've tried reinstalling, and it had no effect, and I am pretty sure removing completely would work, however it would remove 2 gigs of programs, among them the ones that control the wifi card in this laptop
[19:55] <tanner2007> =/
[19:55] <bit_o> l
[19:56] <Slart> outofthemadness: have you tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall --purge python ?
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: is Ubuntu's partition still there?
[19:56] <cougardn> anyone who remembers my problem? After 1-2 minutes it now started. What happned in the meantime?
[19:56] <outofthemadness> Slart: I haven't yet, let me give that a shot
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: I assume so, and if so you should be able to access on Live CD and all that
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: oh your error is when you try to access on LIve CD?
[19:57] <alain> bonjour
[19:57] <x_link> Hi!
[19:57] <tanner2007> it is, but i cant access it if the pc wont display, i went throu this before when instlalling it and fixed it but cant fix it if its booting not writting to the partition
[19:57] <x_link> I'm new with GNOME.
[19:57] <x_link> Where can I turn off my bluetooth?
[19:57] <cougardn> x_link: so just ask
[19:57] <tanner2007> once it boots up from live cd i get this "cannot display this video mode"
[19:57] <cougardn> x_link: do you use an EEE-pc?
[19:57] <x_link> cougardn: Nope
[19:58] <Slart> x_link: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop might work
[19:58] <cougardn> x_link: to bad, I knew it for eees
[19:59] <cougardn> Between Bios-choise/mem tests and Grub I'm waiting very long, seeing a blinking cursor. whats wrong? (thats new and I didnt change anything!)
[19:59] <outofthemadness> Slart: No luck. But I finally had the epiphany about what was causing my problem because of your suggestion
[20:00] <Slart> outofthemadness: ah.. nice that I was helpful in some way =)
[20:00] <slg> was wondering why ubuntu does not offer a step by step configuration program for installation, so you can select or disable all this mostly not needed programs,services etc. cmon ubuntu is becoming more and more like windump, if you are wondering just running debian and have about 50% more efficiency ....
[20:01] <Slart> slg: you can install the minimal install.. that will let you chose what to install
[20:01] <slg> i must say i am really disappointed with 9.04
[20:01] <cougardn> sig, take a minimal install and get the packages you want. i can even give you a tutorial
[20:01] <x_link> Slart: But the bluetooth-light is still on.
[20:02] <steph291> hi !
[20:02] <aramisbear> Good afternoon all, I'm new here but I'm trying to figure out how to switch the video driver from the command prompt in Jaunty
[20:02] <cougardn> cougardn: or you search for it yourself at lifehacker.com
[20:02] <steph291> need help !
[20:02] <aramisbear> haven't been able to find any good resource on google
[20:02] <Slart> x_link: that stops the software in ubuntu.. I don't think it kills the hardware
[20:02] <cougardn> x_link: but bluetooth stopped working?
[20:03] <steph291> I lost my /dev/video0, but lspci show my capture device ?!?
[20:03] <slg> how about a graphical version witch takes you step by step through the installation.. like have you got a printer installed, do you need three schedulers ? etc,,,
[20:04] <cougardn> Between Bios-choice/mem tests and Grub I'm waiting very long (seeing a blinking cursor). whats wrong? (thats new and I didnt change anything!)
[20:04] <Slart> slg: it's probably a design decision.. it might be easier to support one homogenous install base..but I'm really just guessing.. I have no idea why they do things the way they are doing them.. this might be better discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:04] <deuonderer> hi guys,i've a problem: after i installed the fgrlx drivers by using hardware driver,i reboot and my video resolution seems absurd. That's the screenshot http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6471/schermatal.png..any help?
[20:05] <steph291> so if I start a capture software, it's complaining about /dev/video0 missing
[20:05] <slg> just good to know i am not alone with my opinion, sure will have a look at #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:05] <axisys> i have a IP is continuosly trying to login , may be with a DDoS tool .. how do I block that IP ?
[20:06] <mib_am0tnx> sebsebseb: so I just reimage, basically, and don't worry about partitions?
[20:06] <AlexStacey> hi, i've got a new dell laptop and i'm trying to set up a dual-boot (vista/ubuntu) - i've got to the final stage of the ubuntu installation and trying to work out where to install the boot loader
[20:07] <AlexStacey> should i install it on the vista(loader) partition?
[20:07] <JKemp> The drive your duall booting on...
[20:07] <JKemp> Not a partition...
[20:08] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: yeah just delete the partitions, or use Ghost
[20:08] <AlexStacey> JKemp: the actual drive /dev/sda rather than a partition?
[20:08] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: that should do it
[20:08] <steph291> :\
[20:08] <JKemp> @ALEX yep
[20:08] <ricardoromao> hello, someone knows how to config the shaperd ?
[20:09] <deuonderer> hi guys,i've a problem: after i installed the fgrlx drivers by using hardware driver,i reboot and my video resolution seems absurd. That's the screenshot http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6471/schermatal.png..any help?
[20:09] <aramisbear> I've got a touch screen system that I'm trying to get configured, but I need to switch the video driver that Jaunty is trying to use by default so that In can get it installed in the first place
[20:09] <aramisbear> any ideas?
[20:11] <Lilarcor> axisys: use iplist
[20:11] <Wunderbar> need help with configure make make install stuff guys...
[20:11] <Wunderbar> plz :)
[20:11] <steph291> black hole
[20:11] <Wunderbar> black hole?
[20:11] <Slart> Wunderbar: mm.. I'll help you.. if you promise one thing.
[20:12] <Wunderbar> yah
[20:12] <Slart> Wunderbar: never ever use "plz" in this channel again.. =)
[20:12] <Wunderbar> okies, apologies
[20:12] <Slart> Wunderbar: no worries.. just a personal pet peeve =)
[20:12] <Slart> Wunderbar: what are you trying to compile
[20:12] <Wunderbar> so I've only ever done it once before and I can't remember how
[20:13] <Wunderbar> it's an emulator
[20:13] <Wunderbar> the folder is on my desktop
[20:13] <|amadeus|> Moin
[20:13] <Slart> Wunderbar: it might differ a little from program to program.. but the most common way is to start with the command ./configure
[20:13] <Wunderbar> done- I tried to add the folder name but to no avail
[20:13] <Slart> Wunderbar: it will check that you have all the libraries you need, that the compiler is setup etc etc
[20:14] <Slart> Wunderbar: you tried to add the folder name?
[20:14] <tanner2007> Guys i ned to delete a folder off an sd card but giving me cannot delete due to premissions
[20:14] <ericP> how do i tell ubunto (synaptics?) to go ahead and use proprietary [video] drivers?
[20:14] <axisys> Lilarcor: iplist ? which package ?
[20:14] <Lilarcor> axisys: I think it's called iplist
[20:14] <ericP> the non-proprietary vid drivers don't come back from suspend
[20:14] <Slart> ericP: try using the hardware drivers thingy.. in system, administration
[20:15] <axisys> Lilarcor: apt-cache search iplist did not find it
[20:15] <MeXTuX> I have the Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) chipset and am trying to build the driver from source. When i try to patch the ipw3945 source got this message: missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch. Can't find file to patch at input line 3. Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? Any idea about what I am doing wrong?? :(
[20:15] <outofthemadness> does anyone know why the sys.path for /usr/bin/python2.6 and /usr/local/bin/python2.6 wouldn't agree?
[20:15] <Lilarcor> axisys: http://iplist.sourceforge.net/
[20:16] <bookmark> uh is there such a thing as software glx?
[20:17] <ericP> Slart, almsot there, but it doesn't seem to find the driver. "Activate" says "Downloading and installing driver 0%" for a while, then comes back
[20:17] <Slart> bookmark: have you looked at MESA?
[20:17] <bookmark> because i have a glx screen saver working in ubuntu live cd which really surprises me
[20:17] <Jptoob> can someone can help me with backtrack?
[20:17] <axisys> Lilarcor: i see I have to update the apt sources file .. doh! thanks
[20:17] <tanner2007> i also cant create an arcive says the specfified location is not suported
[20:17] <Lilarcor> axisys: you're welcome
[20:17] <Wunderbar> is it possible to make install a zip file?
[20:17] <Slart> ericP: hmm..that's odd..
[20:17] <bookmark> oh well i dunno
[20:18] <Slart> Wunderbar: nope.. you'll have to unpack it
[20:18] <Wunderbar> have done
[20:18] <Mack> how do u use php-cli in 9.04?
[20:18] <Mack> i can't get it to work
[20:18] <Wunderbar> can't see anything here that would correspond with the instructions in the readme
[20:18] <Wunderbar> this is really, really, really odd
[20:18] <Slart> Wunderbar: do you have an url?
[20:19] <Wunderbar> for the readme? no
[20:19] <ericP> Slart, $(sudo jockey-gtk) had same effect
[20:19] <arooni-mobile> i am having issues with getting ubuntu to initiate the xine audio drivers
[20:19] <Slart> ericP: mm.. that is the hardware drivers thingy.. that's the command to run it
[20:19] <Slart> Wunderbar: I meant for the source package?
[20:20] <rootytooty> i cant run kismet in backtrack but i can browse the net.....any help?
[20:20] <djnel> I'm using jaunty and Nvidea drivers 180.44 and cant seem to get any open gl games working.... anyone mind helping an entry level linux user?
[20:22] <bookmark> how can i tell if i have hardware acceleration?
[20:22] <bookmark> odd question
[20:22] <bookmark> 3d that is
[20:22] <ericP> Slart, seems to time out waiting for a socket connected to /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[20:22]  * felix_ try
[20:22] <bookmark> fps i guess
[20:23] <bookmark> i mean i'm watching some pretty cool glx screen savers but i dunno if its hardware or not
[20:23] <Slart> ericP: it seems like a very "windowsy" solution but have you tried rebooting and trying again?
[20:23] <boss_mc> bookmark, see if glxgears runs
[20:23] <bookmark> yep
[20:23] <slg> hello again guess they did not like me in offtopic channel :P
[20:23] <boss_mc> bookmark, run glxinfo | grep direct
[20:23] <bookmark> ha i didn't even know it was installed i kept searching for an installation candidate