[06:17] <pvl> sin2gen sound recorder wont even load now bc it says i have the wrong settings
[06:17] <navaburo> jjf, and freenode has many servers providing a stable network... it essentally cannot have downtime as a whole
[06:17] <jjf> LucianIndy & navarro, thx, I'll try that.  But I don't know if Freenode would allow 6 different connections from the same IP ??
[06:17] <dragon1711> system sounds ore coming out of modem speaker
[06:17] <kkathman> I usually have to reboot several times to get it to work
[06:17] <sin2gen2> pvl:  i am not sure then
[06:17] <navaburo> jjf, freenode is rather tolerant unless you are botting. but just to be sure check #freenode
[06:18] <sin2gen2> pvl:  i was thinking your capture or mic boost settings were low
[06:18] <jjf> navaburo, thanks
[06:18] <kkathman> btw Im using a SB Live card
[06:18] <pvl> sin2gen, ill keep fiddling with that
[06:18] <squarebottle> Jordan_U and sin2gen2: I literally just finished getting this ubuntu box set up exactly how I want it, shortcut keys and all. But... meh.  And really, when is the last time a linux system crashed on you, anyway? Me and my luck. Any ideas before I concede here?
[06:18] <navaburo> dragon1711, ooo, how bizar
[06:18] <dragon1711> lsmod |egrep '(snd)|(Module)'                  shows that modem is coming first and then comes sound
[06:19] <byonix> hi, i don't how to use my webcam & modem, how to use them?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis_> !webcam
[06:19] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:19] <sh3l1> my computer froze, while i was bittorrenting something and now azureus crashes when i try to open it, how do i clear all of the data about downloading files?
[06:20] <dragon1711> how can I delete modem
[06:20] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, I still think that it is recoverable but if you do decide to re-install keep your home folder and list of applications, that way all of your user specific preferences will still be there and all of the applications you have installed ( you may want to keep your sources.list also so that you can be sure that the packages are available )
[06:20] <Dr_Willis_> dragon1711:  if you dont need the modem module, you could blacklist it.
[06:20] <Jordan_U> !cloning | squarebottle
[06:20] <ubotu> squarebottle: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[06:20] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  fire up the install CD, mount the drive and copy the contents of the install CD's /var/lib/dpkg to your drive, reboot, and rerun apt-get update in your environment?
[06:20] <sh3l1> !justask | ubotu
[06:20] <ubotu> ubotu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:21] <dragon1711> disabled module = "..." ?
[06:21] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: If you still think it's recoverable, than hopefully that won't be necessary, eh? What do you suggest from here?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> sin2gen2, what sin2gen2 said but I would add to copy your sources.list to the live session and run apt-get update from the liveCD so the list of available packages will be the same
[06:22] <dragon1711> who needs the modem when you are on 100 mb/sec fiber  line :)
[06:22] <Dr_Willis_> dragon1711:  im not even clear on why the modem is even an issue with you.
[06:22] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  Jordan_U : right, bring over your sources.list
[06:22] <dragon1711> how do I blacklist this nice modem
[06:23] <Dr_Willis_> !blacklist
[06:23] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[06:23] <squarebottle> !cloning
[06:23] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[06:23] <sh3l1> my computer froze, while i was bittorrenting something and now azureus crashes when i try to open it, how do i clear all of the data about downloading files?
[06:23] <squarebottle> !automate
[06:23] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[06:23] <Jordan_U> sin2gen2, And I would try doing it only with /var/lib/dpkg/available first and not all of /var/lib/dpkg ( back up everything in /var/lib/dpkg/ first either way )
[06:24] <akakato_> */identify
[06:24] <Dr_Willis_> sh3l1:  may want to check the azureus channel, and perhaos its homepage/forums for the proper way to recover from the crash.
[06:24] <squarebottle> Jordan_U and sin2gen2: Alright then. Thanks for your help
[06:24] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  what does synaptic do? crash?
[06:24] <dragon1711> thnx for help guys, I will try it and brb with the result
[06:24] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, np
[06:24] <squarebottle> sin2gen2: It doesn't crash, it just fails
[06:24] <squarebottle> fails to install stuff.
[06:24] <kyncani> squarebottle: you(ve emptied the available file, apt-get update and apt-get install -f and it still does not work ?
[06:24] <riotkittie> arrrrrrrgh.
[06:24] <squarebottle> kyncani: Correct
[06:25] <kyncani> squarebottle: what's the error message when apt-get updating or -f installing now ?
[06:25] <sh3l1> dr_willis_:thanks
[06:25] <DerangedDingo> Hey everyone, sorry to just jump in, but I'm have an annoying problem. When I use Compiz as my window manager, as of yesterday, click to focus stopped working even though it's enabled in Gconf-editor. Windows don't come above the other ones unless i select the title bar and move it around. Does anyone have an idea what went wrong? All I can think of are some GTK1.2 libs I installed as XMMS dependencies (that I removed today in a futile att
[06:25] <netcatc> hello folks
[06:25] <squarebottle> kyncani: Neither of those give an output with errors. However, here's the output when I try to install something. http://pastebin.com/d573d3b9a
[06:25] <netcatc> help me with it, configure: error: Qt () (library qt-mt) not found
[06:25] <riotkittie> DerangedDingo : try #ubuntu-effects
[06:26] <Dr_Willis_> !find qt-mt
[06:26] <kyncani> squarebottle: the available file must exist, even if empty
[06:26] <ubotu> Package/file qt-mt does not exist in feisty
[06:26] <Dr_Willis_> hmm..
[06:26] <Dr_Willis_> !find mt-dev
[06:26] <ubotu> Found: libqt3-mt-dev
[06:26] <kyncani> squarebottle: sudo echo >/var/lib/dpkg/available
[06:26] <squarebottle> kyncani: Well, it exists.  I have a Netgear MA111 usb adapter. There are directions for breezy/dapper, and i followed them, though i'm not sure if they apply to feisty, tho i cant imagine that they dont
[06:28] <MTecknology> I used 'tar cf pos.tar *' to create an archive then wget to transfer it. I'm now trying to use 'tar -xv pos.tar' to uncompress it. If I do ls while it's uncompressing pos.tar shows up in red, and i don't see any folder it should be getting extracted to... am i missing something?
[06:28] <navaburo> riotkittie, it may *just work*
[06:29] <riotkittie> i have also tried building myself, per the directions on netgear's site but   i kept on getting errors, and compiling has never been my strong point
[06:29] <Rockinghorse> Rockinghorse is gone...but he'll be baack...
[06:29] <kyncani> squarebottle: mmh, i really don't know ..
[06:29] <navaburo> riotkittie, what does iwconfig say with the device plugged in
[06:29] <squarebottle> kyncani: This mean anything to you? "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)"
[06:29] <riotkittie> navaburo: if it *just worked*, i'd have not spent the majority of time in xp since getting this computer :P
[06:30] <riotkittie> err. hold on. i'll reboot and find out
[06:30] <kyncani> squarebottle: if you want, i can send you my available file so you can replace yours and try again ?
[06:30] <netcatc> Dr_willis, I tried, I dont get
[06:30] <navaburo> riotkittie, mine took me by suprise, and i fiddled around with building drivers for half and hour before realizing that it was working fine all along... but maybe that was just me
[06:31] <squarebottle> kyncani: That'd be great. Thanks. Pastebin?
[06:31] <kyncani> squarebottle: here you go: http://y.lesaint.free.fr/post/available
[06:31] <navets> I need help, I am trying to run compiz-fusion and i dont get any titlebars. I tried emerald theme manager and i get the same problem
[06:31] <byonix> hi, i don't how to use my webcam & modem, how to use them?
[06:32] <kyncani> squarebottle: the file has perms 644
[06:32] <netcatc> Dr_willis, do you have some idea?
[06:32] <squarebottle> kyncani: Still doesn't work after using your file
[06:32] <kyncani> squarebottle: same error message ?
[06:33] <squarebottle> kyncani: Yeah. Same everything.
[06:34] <squarebottle> I wish I could just "apt-get apt-get" lol
[06:35] <kyncani> squarebottle: well, i don't know ...
[06:35] <squarebottle> Woah woah
[06:35] <squarebottle> Actually, it gave a little bit more
[06:35] <squarebottle> E: gftp-gtk: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[06:35] <squarebottle> E: gftp: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:35] <squarebottle> So it's mutated into a dependency issue now?   Similar to the "bridge" option in Windows XP.
[06:37] <squarebottle> "No process killed"
[06:38] <kyncani> squarebottle: rm the damn /var/cache/apt/archives/lock lock file
[06:38] <travis> hey guys
[06:38] <travis> can i get a hand
[06:38] <travis> lol
[06:38] <sin2gen2> accura2k:  maybe in network-manager-gnome
[06:38] <travis> as in help
[06:38] <d4rkmonkey> oh
[06:39] <d4rkmonkey> what do you need travis ?
[06:39] <travis> i wann install liek flash player
[06:39] <travis> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[06:39] <riotkittie> travis: depends. what do you need help with?
[06:39] <riotkittie> travis: what about it?
[06:39] <riotkittie> oh
[06:39] <travis> and how to dirrect to the install on my desktop from the terminal
[06:39] <squarebottle> kyncani: http://pastebin.com/d2de5bd2d
[06:39] <riotkittie> travis: why not just install from the repos?   in a term sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:39] <cafuego> travis: there is no Linux version of Shockwave.
[06:40] <squarebottle> !shockwave
[06:40] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[06:40] <travis> ok il try
[06:40] <cafuego> travis: Oh sorry, flash. Yeah, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:40] <riotkittie> oh. i thought he wanted flash.
[06:40] <cafuego> riotkittie: yeah, the url had me fooled
[06:40] <travis> awsome guys
[06:40] <travis> im typin it up now
[06:41] <kyncani> squarebottle: apt-get -f install --reinstall menu
[06:41] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  and apt-get install -f doesn't fix that?
[06:41] <riotkittie> cafuego: :P
[06:41] <navets> I need help, I am trying to run compiz-fusion and i dont get any titlebars. I tried emerald theme manager and i get the same problem
[06:41] <kyncani> squarebottle: then remove the ftp package
[06:41] <riotkittie> navets: does "emerald --replace" in a term, w/o quotes do anything?
[06:41] <travis> ya i brand new to ubuntu
[06:42] <travis> first day man
[06:42] <riotkittie> i tried compiz-fusion and it was a pain. then again, my video card is lame, too.
[06:42] <poningru> !effects  navets
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects  navets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <poningru> !effects | navets
[06:42] <ubotu> navets: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[06:42] <squarebottle> kyncani: http://pastebin.com/d137293a1
[06:42] <riotkittie> travis: ah. welcome aboard :D or something.  it can be confusing and ungodly frustrating at first but ubuntu's awesome, in terms of user friendliness and a helpful community
[06:43] <sin2gen2> !wine
[06:43] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:43] <travis> thabk you guys soo much
[06:43] <travis> thank*
[06:43] <kyncani> squarebottle: :)  well, apt-get clean, then redo the apt-get -f install ... line
[06:43] <navets> riotkittie: ill try quotes
[06:43] <navets> riotkittie: i mean sorry, i tried without quotes
[06:44] <navets> riotkittie: it doesnt work, the only way i can get compiz to even work is with compiz --replace -c emerald &
[06:44] <kyncani> squarebottle: that's some crazy apt/dpkg mess :)
[06:44] <riotkittie> navets: that sucks. i tried to get compiz-fusion running on my initial feisty install, and by the end of the night, all i wanted to do was drink :|
[06:45] <squarebottle> kyncani- Still no good.
[06:45] <riotkittie> brb. going to post @ the forums :|
[06:46] <kyncani> squarebottle: error message ?
[06:46] <squarebottle> kyncani: Yeah, yeah it is. And you know what? This is my fault in a way. I'd read something from an Ubuntu dev about how automatix was dangerous, and I wasn't going to use it... until I realized that I wanted the latest azureues, and wanted it installed nice and easy. And then I got tempted to get Adobe Reader with automatix, and it was during THAT install that my computer crashed. Arooooo on me.
[06:47] <travis> RK i did in a term sudo......flashplugin-non free i got an error saying e: could<nt find pakage flash pluginnonfree
[06:47] <squarebottle> Let that be a lesson to everybody.
[06:47] <kyncani> automatix ...
[06:47] <witless> hi.  i have a 280mb avi file that's a clip only 2 minutes long.  how can i compress this down?
[06:47] <squarebottle> kyncani: Automatix, automatix, automatix.
[06:48] <kyncani> squarebottle: well, once you've automatixed, i think the best thing to do is reinstall from scratch anyway
[06:48] <taran> whey .. anyone awake to give me a pointer, regarding vga issue? :)
[06:48] <squarebottle> kyncani: lol
[06:48] <Nunzio> Whats the icon size for the toolbar at top?
[06:49] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Now it's all clear :)
[06:49] <squarebottle> kyncani: The better way to go is probably to just find and add a repository that has the current version of azureus.
[06:49] <kyncani> squarebottle: the best thing to do is to stick with official repos i believe
[06:49] <travis> whast a repos?
[06:49] <anarchris> witless: reincode it in virtualdub, it either uses a very bad codec or is incredibly high quality :)
[06:50] <kyncani> repository | travis
[06:50] <squarebottle> kyncani: The best thing to do is use the most current stable product in my opinion. Ubuntu doesn't really do a good job keeping up with that.
[06:50] <travis> is that like and exe in windows?
[06:50] <squarebottle> kyncani: Not that I really fault them for having a hard time keeping up with everything out there.
[06:50] <riotkittie> !automatix
[06:50] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[06:50] <kyncani> squarebottle: same goes with ubuntu, you may want to stick with official packages
[06:50] <Jordan_U> !repository | travis
[06:50] <exlibris> Hello good people! Can anyone point me to what packages I need for compiling?
[06:50] <ubotu> travis: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:50] <travis> thanls
[06:50] <travis> thanls
[06:51] <squarebottle> Why is it that automatix is so.. dangerous? I mean, doesn't it just use apt-get itself?
[06:51] <Jordan_U> travis, A repository is where Synaptic / apt get their applications ( packages )
[06:51] <travis> oooo ok
[06:51] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, For some things yes, but not for all
[06:51] <TBZ-> !ati
[06:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:51] <heartofgold> hi. is it safe to upgrade from CD from dapper-> feisty? (or is it even doable?)
[06:51] <kyncani> !automatix >squarebottle
[06:51] <kyncani> squarebottle: a worthwile read
[06:52] <riotkittie> heartofgold: afaik, you need to use distr-upgrade
[06:52] <Jordan_U> heartofgold, You need to upgrade to Edgy first
[06:52] <bam_> hello all
[06:52] <taran> I have a 40gb USB disk, that im using to boot Ubuntu on .. Now, i installed it on this box with an ATI card, but the purpose of the disk is to have it with me to be able to have my installation on any box capable of booting from an USB device. The problem is that it has installed ATI drivers, and wont start X on other graphics card. I dont need any 3D accelleration, just standard SVGA 1024x768 setup, any idea how to revert the ATI drivers t
[06:52] <riotkittie> oh wait. if i have a wlan0, should i have a wlan0:ava ?
[06:52] <heartofgold> hmm
[06:53] <squarebottle> kyncani: That was the thing I glanced over in the first place. It's funny that such a big and developed product could be so... meh. It's frustrating. Somebody should tell Michael Dell to stop touting it.
[06:53] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, And anything that Automatix does install with apt could just be installed with synaptic / apt anyways, so what is the point?
[06:53] <bam_> anyone want to shed some light on a problem i have with dcc send and rc.firewall 2.4 stronger    i  cant seem to get this to work.
[06:54] <thedash> hey, would there be an easy way to have my desktop background set to a random image from a specified folder [and that changed daily or so]  ?
[06:54] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Basically, it has the convenience of an updated repository. For instance, it has the latest azureues.
[06:54] <travis> Another question do i need any kind of virus scaner ?
[06:55] <meshuggahwhateve> man i wish wine would work with war rock
[06:55] <kyncani> travis: nope
[06:55] <travis> awsome
[06:55] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Yes, but then why not just add the repository it uses ( for most things it uses mediubuntu which is practically official )
[06:55] <kyncani> travis: just keep your system up to date
[06:55] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: That's probably the way to go then
[06:55] <travis> im running 5.04
[06:55] <travis> how can i update
[06:56] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | travis
[06:56] <ubotu> travis: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:56] <travis> thz
[06:56] <Jordan_U> np
[06:56] <kyncani> squarebottle: do you trust this repo enough not to break your box ? is this new version worth the "hassle"
[06:57] <squarebottle> kyncani: When a major project says they have a stable release, yes.
[06:57] <riotkittie> Microsoft has been claiming to have stable releases since at least the mid 90s. case closed.
[06:57] <kyncani> squarebottle: azureus is major enough for you that you're willing to use an external repo ?
[06:57] <squarebottle> riotkittie: Touche, hehe
[06:57] <squarebottle> riotkittie: +5000 points to you
[06:58] <riotkittie> :D
[06:58] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, A stable release of software packaged by an idiot can do a surprising amount of harm
[06:58] <riotkittie> so sad. i have to scurry back into xp if i cant get my wireless running
[06:59] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Even if the software itself is perfectly sound
[06:59] <Jordan_U> riotkittie, What chipset?
[06:59] <kyncani> squarebottle: and external repos won't always handle major upgrades (feisty -> gutsy) gracefully
[06:59] <squarebottle> kyncani: There's a certain philosophy or lifestyle or whatever you want to call it that enjoys living on the bleeding edge, and is willing to sacrifice some stability to do so. I wouldn't call myself an extremist of this stance by any means, but I do like to have the most current version of whatever I use. It's a hobby in a way.
[06:59] <travis> MY FLASH PLAYER WORKED
[07:00] <travis> u guys are great and ubuntu pretty sweet so far
[07:00] <travis> cant wait to update
[07:00] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, There are distributions which don't have distinct releases, archlinux is a great example
[07:00] <kyncani> squarebottle: well, i used debian sid not one year ago, using the latest software and breaking your box gets old at some point
[07:00] <squarebottle> kyncani: In way, I'd say that's as much a weakness of Ubuntu as it is of the other repositories.
[07:01] <macogw> squarebottle: debian testing might be good for you
[07:01] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, They just have rolling updates so it doesn't take long for a stable release to show up in the official repositories
[07:01] <riotkittie> Jordan_U: MA111
[07:01] <macogw> squarebottle: not really often bad breaks, but still much newer than anything stable
[07:01] <kyncani> macogw: yeah, but when it breaks, it can remain broken for some time
[07:02] <travis> help i have a dell and i cant use my built in wireless card how would i counfigure it i also have the application on cd from dell but in not sure i can install then ni ubuntu but also i haventtryed yet
[07:02] <macogw> kyncani: oo didnt think about that.  i havent actually used lenny yet
[07:02] <squarebottle> Heh. Well, I myself come from Gentoo actually. I actually ended up working for Sabayon for a while as their art coordinator. They were surprisingly good at keeping the portage database, well, keeping it generally awesome.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, What do you expect them to do about broken poorly maintained repositories breaking upgrades?
[07:02] <kyncani> macogw: i have used debian testing at some time.
[07:02] <macogw> travis: what wireless card is it? broadcom?
[07:02] <travis> i bielive so
[07:02] <travis> man ur good
[07:03] <macogw> travis: dell does a lot of broadcom
[07:03] <travis> ya
[07:03] <squarebottle> squarebottle: Whether or not they've boxed thsemself into a corner by doing things a certain way or not -- that is, whether or not I expect them to be able to do anything about it -- doesn't mean that the problem doesn't exist for them.
[07:03] <squarebottle> Er.
[07:03] <macogw> travis: is it the 43xx or 1390?
[07:03] <Jordan_U> travis, Have you tried bcm43xx-fwcutter ?
[07:03] <squarebottle> Ha.
[07:03] <kyncani> macogw: when they start, say, propagating major software like gnome, gnome can stay broken for a month or two ...
[07:03] <squarebottle> Well, you know who that was to.
[07:03] <travis> its inspiron 1300
[07:03] <macogw> kyncani: oh ouch
[07:03] <macogw> travis: no the wireless card
[07:03] <travis> im not sure
[07:03] <macogw> travis: do "lspci" in the terminal and look for it
[07:03] <travis> id have to check
[07:03] <macogw> travis: but dont paste the big output here
[07:03] <travis> im trying ur trm now
[07:03] <travis> lol
[07:04] <Jordan_U> travis, Can you pastebin the output of "lspci | grep Broadcom" ?
[07:04] <squarebottle> Personally, I'm still a big fan of the way portage does things. I'm just... well, you all know about the Gentoo developers. Working with them... and the Sabayon devs weren't different... That's why I ended up leaving for Ubuntu.
[07:04] <travis> deal
[07:04] <kyncani> macogw: whereas using ubuntu the transition will happen entirely in the dev version and will be finished when you upgrade to the next big thing
[07:04] <travis>  its huge
[07:04] <macogw> kyncani: even if you use ubuntu's unstable, the breaks are fixed within days
[07:05] <riotkittie> yay for fixage.
[07:05] <travis> whats this mean in a term |
[07:05] <travis> cuz i did<nt add it
[07:05] <travis> donno how
[07:05] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Try Arch
[07:06] <squarebottle> What's Arch based on?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, pacman
[07:06] <kyncani> macogw: i have not used it, but i highly doubt gutsy has not been broken badly in the first two months following feisty's release
[07:06] <Jordan_U> macogw, Not so much with things in universe unfortunately
[07:06] <kyncani> macogw: (just guessing here)
[07:07] <riotkittie> travis: its a pipe. it sends one command to another. in your case, it well search the output of the first command for the term in the second
[07:07] <macogw> travis: its a pipe. it sends the output of the first command (lspci...lists pci devices) to the input of the 2nd (grep Broadcom....searches for the word Broadcom and prints out lines containing it)
[07:07] <riotkittie> and give you only those results
[07:07] <squarebottle> So that makes it a Slackware based distro then, if I'm not mistaken. Hmmmm. Hmmdy hmm hmm. I don't remember being a terribly huge fan of Slackware actually (I know, I know, gasp gasp gasp I'm a heretic)
[07:07] <travis> ok how do i add that using my keyboard( really stupid question
[07:07] <macogw> kyncani: feisty's big breaks were cd burning for a bit and beryl for a week
[07:07] <squarebottle> I'll give Arch a shot though
[07:08] <macogw> kyncani: i used it from alpha 2 (in january) onward
[07:08] <squarebottle> Thanks for the recommendation
[07:08] <riotkittie> travis: depends on your keyboard. may be over your \ key
[07:08] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, No, it's not based on slackware
[07:08] <riotkittie> and you just shift to get it
[07:08] <macogw> travis: above enter, usually
[07:08] <travis> great
[07:08] <riotkittie> slack <3
[07:08] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Really? But I thought-- no, no I'm thinking of slaptget, hardy har har.
[07:09] <riotkittie> heretic!  :x
[07:09] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, http://www.archlinux.org/
[07:09] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: ALready there, thanks. But now I'm curious. Where have I heard of pacman before, aside from the hungry little cheese wheel? I know it was a package manager... hmm...
[07:09] <kyncani> macogw: well, anyway, having used debian testing at some point made it very clear to me that the sole purpose to debian testing was to roll out a stable version and not to keep testing itself stable
[07:10] <travis> hey guys i get nothign when i enter lspci | grep broadcom
[07:10] <travis> its just bring s me to a ew comamnd line
[07:10] <macogw> travis: then its not broadcom
[07:10] <travis> ol have to findout later
[07:10] <macogw> travis: just do lspci and read through it yourself to see if you see somehting about wifi or networking
[07:10] <travis> ok
[07:11] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Perhaps you are thinking of Frugalware ?
[07:11] <travis> lspci | grep Broadcom
[07:11] <travis> ooops
[07:11] <travis> Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (re v 02)
[07:11] <travis> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4319 (rev 02)
[07:11] <travis> thats it right ?
[07:12] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Didn't know Frugalware used pacman. Aroo. This is going to bug me now. I suppose it's possible that I heard it in reference to none other than Arch Linux, heh heh.
[07:12] <riotkittie> ok. time to yank my cable, put it back in the fonera, and let forth with a flow of terribly unladylike words when i still cant connect to my wireless network. i'll be back. likely weeping at my keyboard.  good times, good times.
[07:12] <HorizonXP> hey, how do I get my MX700 bluetooth working on Ubuntu?
[07:12] <HorizonXP> !bluetooth
[07:12] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:12] <squarebottle> Alright, well, anyway, I'm off to get this box up and running again. Thanks for all your help everybody, and thanks for the little chat afterward too. :D
[07:13] <kyncani> :)
[07:13] <Jordan_U> travis, I think that with a 4401 you need to use NDISwrapper :(
[07:14] <travis> witch means
[07:14] <travis> sorry im pretty noob
[07:15] <Jordan_U> travis, It isn't supported with native Linux drivers but you may be able to use the windows drivers with a tool called NDISwrapper
[07:15] <travis> o ok
[07:15] <Matir> bcm 4401 is wired and should be supported by b44 driver, I thought
[07:15] <travis> hey thanks so much guys tonight il be back tomorow lovin this ubuntu i was try to to a dual boot but i migh tnow whant to
[07:16] <Jordan_U> travis, Wait, I might be an idiot...
[07:16] <travis> sorry i try to type too fast
[07:16] <travis> ok
[07:17] <macogw> Jordan_U: his lspci said 4319.  that's 43xx
[07:17] <macogw> Jordan_U: you're looking at the wired one
[07:17] <Jordan_U> macogw, I realized that, that is why I said I was an idiot ^^ :)
[07:18] <travis> so i guess this is the main support for ubuntu like a 1-800 number but online and u guys are techs or programmers
[07:18] <macogw> travis: download this http://macoafi.googlepages.com/firmware.tar.gz
[07:18] <travis> ok
[07:18] <Jordan_U> macogw, It is still not fully supported by the bcm43xx drivers
[07:18] <travis> i have it
[07:18] <macogw> Jordan_U: before you say fwcutter, the firmware source from which fwcutter downloads is a 404
[07:18] <Jordan_U> macogw, Are you sure that is the latest firmware, and why not have him install fwcutter instead?
[07:19] <netcatc> I don't get install -f in libqt3-mt-dev
[07:19] <Jordan_U> macogw, Too late :)
[07:19] <netcatc> dependent
[07:19] <netcatc>  xlibmesa-gl-dev
[07:19] <macogw> Jordan_U: that is the firmware that fwcutter downloads though :)
[07:19] <macogw> travis: is it on your desktop?
[07:19] <Jordan_U> macogw, I have the latest firmware as is installed by fwcutter from Feisty on my website
[07:19] <travis> yes
[07:20] <macogw> Jordan_U: thats what that tar is.  its the firmware from my computer from feisty using fwcutter
[07:20] <macogw> travis: cd Desktop
[07:20] <Jordan_U> macogw, Great minds ;)
[07:20] <macogw> travis: tar -xf firmware.tar.gz
[07:20] <travis> in a term ?
[07:20] <macogw> travis: yes
[07:20] <travis> can i copy pas in a tern
[07:20] <travis> no right
[07:20] <travis> i tryed
[07:20] <macogw> travis: of course you can
[07:21] <macogw> its ctrl shift v in the term though
[07:21] <Jordan_U> travis, Be sure to do the "cd Desktop" part
[07:21] <travis> ive tryed
[07:21] <travis> o ok
[07:21] <macogw> travis: you can do the right click copy & paste way too
[07:21] <macogw> travis:  or the highlight to copy and middle (or both buttons if you have a 2 button mouse) click to paste
[07:21] <alobaidi> hello all i am from kuwait and i hope to learn english and linux opreting system would any one add me?
[07:21] <alobaidi><EMAIL_ADDRESS>or in chat room
[07:21] <alobaidi> thank for all
[07:21] <travis> said no sush file or directory
[07:21] <travis> yupp
[07:22] <macogw> travis: did you capitalize the D in Desktop?
[07:22] <travis> nop
[07:22] <macogw> travis: you have to
[07:22] <travis> heyy
[07:22] <DerangedDingo> travis: the command line is case sensitive
[07:22] <travis> ur good man
[07:22] <travis> you bet
[07:22] <macogw> ok so anyway, you got to the Desktop now, right?
[07:23] <travis>  tar -xf firmware.tar.gz
[07:23] <macogw> and did "tar -xv firmware.tar.gz"?
[07:23] <macogw> eyah
[07:23] <travis> nvm
[07:23] <macogw> *yeah
[07:23] <macogw> ack!
[07:23] <macogw> i mean xf sorry
[07:23] <travis> travis@ubuntu:~/Desktop$  tar -xf firmware.tar.gz
[07:23] <travis> tar: firmware.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[07:23] <travis> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[07:23] <travis> cant i double clik it on my desktop
[07:24] <travis> ooo
[07:24] <macogw> travis: type "ls" and see if something's weird about it
[07:24] <travis> i expanded it
[07:24] <macogw> oh you already unzipped it?
[07:24] <macogw> ok
[07:24] <travis> yes
[07:24] <macogw> well anyway then
[07:24] <macogw> cd firmware
[07:24] <travis> k
[07:24] <macogw> sudo cp *.fw /lib/firmware/
[07:24] <Gokee2_temp> I added a server in places and now it won`t go away!
[07:25] <macogw> i shouldve said untarred, not unzipped...
[07:25] <Gokee2_temp> Right clicking just opens the place
[07:25] <WX9J> how can I increase my desktops to 4 like other versions of Linux ?
[07:25] <Gokee2_temp> I can`t seem to find any way to edit it or get rid of it
[07:25] <macogw> WX9J: right click the workspace switcher and go to preferences
[07:25] <travis> udo cp *.fw /lib/firmware
[07:25] <travis> sry
[07:25] <travis> cp: `/lib/firmware/': specified destination directory does not exist
[07:25] <travis> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[07:25] <travis> travis@ubuntu:~/Desktop/firmware$
[07:25] <travis> thats it
[07:25] <macogw> travis: sudo mkdir /lib/firmware
[07:26] <WX9J> macogw: thanks that was something I should have thought of
[07:26] <travis> now what
[07:26] <travis> it worked
[07:26] <travis> i get a new command line
[07:26] <m0u5e> whats the command to capture pressing keys?
[07:26] <macogw> travis: now do the cp line again
[07:27] <HorizonXP> hey, anyone know how to get logitech bluetooth working?
[07:27] <macogw> m0u5e: xev
[07:27] <travis> ??? sorry
[07:27] <m0u5e> macogw: thx :)
[07:27] <macogw> travis: redo that "sudo cp *.fw /lib/firmware/" bit
[07:27] <travis> o ok
[07:27] <macogw> travis: the folder /lib/firmware/ didnt exist, so you just had to make it
[07:27] <travis> lol
[07:27] <travis> i could
[07:27] <travis> i get another command line
[07:28] <macogw> travis: if it doesnt output anything, thats good.  it means no errors
[07:28] <travis> awsome
[07:28] <macogw> travis: cd /lib/firmware
[07:28] <macogw> travis: sudo chown root:root: *.fw
[07:28] <travis> on my desktop its named firmware so can i take out hte lib
[07:29] <Yuiop_Laptop> whats the filename that i can edit so there is no graphical startup
[07:29] <macogw> travis: no no
[07:29] <Yuiop_Laptop> init.d?
[07:29] <travis> ok
[07:29] <macogw> travis: you copied the stuff to /lib/firmware  thats where the driver looks for the firmware
[07:29] <MasterShrek> Yuiop_Laptop, chmod 644 /etc/init.d/gdm
[07:29] <MasterShrek> sudo ^
[07:29] <travis> i did no errors
[07:29] <macogw> travis: you have to make the firmware files that you just copied to /lib/firmware/ belong to root though, instead of to you
[07:29] <Yuiop_Laptop> k
[07:29] <Yuiop_Laptop> thanks
[07:29] <MasterShrek> Yuiop_Laptop, if you want it back chmod 744
[07:29] <binaryacid> mhm.. im having a bit trouble changing my resolution to 1400x900 which is the max my monitor supports, is there some way to specify the resolution manually, an alternative to system -> preferences, since the 1400x900 resolution isnt showing up there?
[07:30] <MasterShrek> binaryacid, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:30] <macogw> travis: so if you're in /lib/firmware and do "ls -l" it shows root as owner and group on all the .fw files
[07:30] <travis> travis@ubuntu:/lib/firmware$ sudo chown root:root: *.fw
[07:30] <travis> chown: `root:root:': invalid group
[07:30] <travis> travis@ubuntu:/lib/firmware$
[07:30] <MasterShrek> binaryacid, back it up first though
[07:30] <Jordan_U> !resolution | binaryacid
[07:30] <ubotu> binaryacid: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:30] <macogw> travis: no : after the second root
[07:30] <Lecxjo> hello
[07:30] <MasterShrek> travis, forget the group, just put root
[07:30] <macogw> travis: sorry, i screw up and type it like that rather often it seems :-/ i need to break that habit
[07:30] <AR> hi
[07:31] <Montaro> hes doing root:root: not root:root
[07:31] <travis> lol
[07:31] <macogw> Montaro: yeah i typed it wrong
[07:31] <Yuiop_Laptop> MasterShrek: i dont have that file actually
[07:31] <MasterShrek> lol
[07:31] <Yuiop_Laptop> im on kubuntu
[07:31] <Yuiop_Laptop> lol
[07:31] <Montaro> ah
[07:31] <magnetron> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-0e3051713171cb5d1bf49dc2dc7bea24eb9ed83e binaryacid
[07:31] <Lecxjo> hi i just installed feisty fawn
[07:31] <Lecxjo> and i havent a clue as to why there is no sound :(
[07:31] <AR> !windows
[07:31] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:31] <AR> LMAO!
[07:31] <MasterShrek> Yuiop_Laptop, locate xorg.conf
[07:31] <Montaro> haha gotta love that msg ;)
[07:31] <AR> so its true :p
[07:31] <Yuiop_Laptop> is it there?
[07:31] <magnetron> !sound | Lecxjo
[07:31] <ubotu> Lecxjo: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:31] <travis> just put root in the command line ?
[07:31] <MasterShrek> type that: 'locate xorg.conf'
[07:32] <macogw> travis: no
[07:32] <Fezzler> Having trouble removing a file or dir named "SUPER.<>".  Keep getting error "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'" ???
[07:32] <Yuiop_Laptop> its in my x config?
[07:32] <Yuiop_Laptop> wtf?
[07:32] <macogw> travis: he meant "sudo chown root *.fw" but the problem was i typed root:root: instead of root:root and so it got confused
[07:32] <Montaro> Fezzler: try rm SUPER.*
[07:32] <travis> lol o ok
[07:32] <travis> sry guys
[07:32] <magnetron> !enter
[07:32] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:32] <MasterShrek> Yuiop_Laptop, you can speficy a resolution in there, at the bottom of the file
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Yuiop_Laptop, It doesn't matter that you are using Kubuntu, you still should have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf make sure you capitalized the X in X11
[07:33] <WindsofTime> **Help: I can get my terminal to work but when I create start-up buttons that require me to check-off the box that says "Use In Terminal".. Anytime I click on that Button the screen Goes black and it logs me out of Xubuntu (Feisty).. How do I fix it where it wont log me out when the start buttons use Terminal!!!
[07:33] <Noah> Hay peeps
[07:33] <macogw> travis: nah it was my fault.  i type that : at the end rather often, and i didnt realize i went and did it again
[07:33] <travis> hey well its working
[07:33] <Noah> anyone need file sharing my site went live today boostshare.com
[07:33] <travis> no errors
[07:33] <Yuiop_Laptop> Jordan_U: i know that but im not looking for that i dont want a graphical startup
[07:33] <Yuiop_Laptop> and i cant remember what file it is to edit
[07:33] <macogw> travis: ok it should work now.  might need to reboot though
[07:33] <WindsofTime> Noah, Advertising isn't allowed :(
[07:33] <Fezzler> Montaro: That did it!  what does "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'" mean in plain language?
[07:34] <Noah> Ok sorry thanks for the free plug anyway
[07:34] <RadiantFire> you should have put something on a new line
[07:34] <RadiantFire> instead of continueing
[07:34] <Montaro> Fezzler: its probably just an error because bash was trying to interpret the < and > as something other than a filename
[07:34] <macogw> Fezzler: means it couldnt read what you typed because some special character was in there
[07:34] <Jordan_U> Yuiop_Laptop, You want to use a tool like bum to prevent kdm from starting automatically at boot, if I understand your question correctly
[07:34] <travis> c me its the (not sure if you know) but i use like then fn + f2 to turn on my wireless
[07:34] <Montaro> Fezzler: you probably could have also put it in quotes ""
[07:34] <Noah> Has Ubuntu caught up to Windows yet
[07:34] <Noah> ??????
[07:34] <orbisvicis> should i chose flumotion, icecast, or streamcast ?
[07:34] <Montaro> or escaped it.. dunno dont use bash :P
[07:34] <macogw> Noah: its better and has been for a while :)
[07:34] <Noah> Or even PC Linux OS
[07:34] <Yuiop_Laptop> ok ill try bum
[07:34] <travis> should i reboot and c what happens
[07:35] <macogw> travis: yeah
[07:35] <travis> ok ttyl in a bit
 **Help: I can get my terminal to work but when I create start-up buttons that require me to check-off the box that says "Use In Terminal".. Anytime I click on that Button the screen Goes black and it logs me out of Xubuntu (Feisty).. How do I fix it where it wont log me out when the start buttons use Terminal!!!
[07:35] <magnetron> Noah: Ubuntu's better.
[07:35] <Yuiop_Laptop> Jordan_U: basically you know the thing that comes up that says ubuntu and has the progress bar when you start your system... i want to see whats goign on not that graphical screen
[07:35] <Jordan_U> Noah, In some ways it surpassed it in its first release, in other ways it is still "behind", depends on what you want to do, and it always will
[07:36] <Jordan_U> !better | Noah
[07:36] <ubotu> Noah: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:36] <Fezzler> I connected my old Tandy Model 102 to my Ubuntu PC tonight via a USB-to-Serial cable.  The 102 has a disk OS that lists files in Ubuntu directory specified by bootstapper call desklink on the PC.
[07:36] <Noah> Mac OSX buitl on FREE BSD that what you people need
[07:36] <macogw> Noah: ew
[07:36] <Fezzler> All worked great in terms of listing files and copying files from Tandy to Ubuntu but files did not want to go other way??
[07:37] <Jordan_U> Yuiop_Laptop, Ahh, then you need to remove the "splash" kernel parameter from grub
[07:37] <magnetron> WindsofTime: what kind of buttons is it? on the gnome panel?
[07:37] <macogw> Noah: i use a mac every day at work and i find more reasons all the time to HATE APPLE
[07:37] <WindsofTime> magnetron yes
[07:37] <WindsofTime> On the panels
[07:37] <WindsofTime> :)
[07:37] <Dr_willis_> macogw,  i agree with that 200$
[07:37] <Fezzler> Also, files copies from Tandy 102 arrived in Ubuntu with "Root" permission.  Not good.
[07:37] <macogw> dr_willis_: that ke is over the 5
[07:37] <macogw> *key
[07:38] <travis> hey
[07:38] <travis> im back
[07:38] <Noah> Ok when Ubuntu and that thwate guy catch up to windows Ill use unbuntu
[07:38] <cafuego> what
[07:38] <magnetron> WindsofTime: if you right click on the panel, there is already a logout button to add. don't use a terminal script for the logout feature, it wont work
[07:38] <WindsofTime> Last time I had trouble starting up Terminal, but that was fixed by I think installing a new one or reinstalling it.. But now whenever I try to get the GNOME Panel buttons to work with Terminal it does it
[07:38] <Noah> Ok when Ubuntu and that thwate guy catch up to windows Ill use ubuntu
[07:38] <macogw> travis: does wireless work?
[07:38] <travis> umm no go when i wann start up my card liek fn+f2
[07:38] <magnetron> Noah: ever tried it?
[07:38] <macogw> Noah: its ahead, IMO
[07:38] <WindsofTime> magnetron It isn't Logout that I am trying to do
[07:38] <cafuego> !repeat > Noah
[07:38] <macogw> Noah: i cant get a virus using this
[07:38] <macogw> Noah: i can get pretty much any software i want for free
[07:38] <WindsofTime> magnetron I am trying to make 2 buttons that will run 2 different scripts
[07:38] <Noah> Well my unbias opinion is that its still behind
[07:38] <magnetron> WindsofTime: shutdown is also availiable via right click
[07:38] <Dr_willis_> Noah,   sure.. unbiased.. sure.. whattever.. use what you want.. we dont care.
[07:39] <travis> wait in my network connection i have lo and etho
[07:39] <macogw> Noah: any OS that makes it that easy to get a virus, is a piece of shit
[07:39] <bam_> i am new to unbuntu about 2 weeks now that I have been using this distro.  Its well made and I find that I like it.  Well I have xchat, rc.firewall-2.4-stronger installed .the thing is that I cant seem to beable to use the dcc send in xchat. if the " ip_conntrack_irc, " and the "ip_nat_irc" load  my dcc send should work ?
[07:39] <Noah> even behind PC LINUX OS
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Noah, That is a logical fallacy, no two OS's will ever have feature parity
[07:39] <macogw> travis: lo is loopback
[07:39] <macogw> travis: eth0 is wired
[07:39] <macogw> travis: eth1 should be wireless
[07:39] <Noah> As soon as I booted PC Linux OS
[07:39] <erikrocha> Hi! :D
[07:39] <travis> hes not there
[07:39] <Dr_willis_> this is one of those 'lot of talking, very little being said, debates'
[07:39] <travis> c i need whats calle quickset
[07:39] <travis> to turn on my wireless card
[07:40] <magnetron> Noah: this is the Ubuntu support channel. any other topic is offtopic
[07:40] <macogw> travis: ok i dont know why.  someone else can answer why the wireless card is playing invisible
[07:40] <orbisvicis> WindsofTime, is it the program you are trying to run? Sometimes the start menu requires you make a script 'wrapper' for the application before itll run
[07:40] <WindsofTime> magnetron, Please listen, I am not trying to create a button to Shutdown or anything to turning off my Computer.. I am creating 2 buttons that will do 2 different scripts (One to start up a server another to start up a Bot for IRC).. Well when I do them I need them to work via Terminal (So I check the box "Use In Terminal")... When I click on them, the screen goes black and it logs me out of Xubuntu.. THATS NOT WHAT I AM TRYING TO
[07:40] <WindsofTime> ACCOMPLISH
[07:40] <Noah> As soon as I booted PC Linux OS it wanted me to connect to the net the first thing you need to do when you set up a new OS
[07:40] <macogw> Noah: uh ok....so what?
[07:40] <cafuego> Noah: This isn't the #PCLinuxOS channel.
[07:40] <faileas> so?
[07:40] <magnetron> WindsofTime: then you made something wrong in your script
[07:41] <WindsofTime> No the script is fine
[07:41] <WindsofTime> Its the terminal
[07:41] <travis> hmmm...........
[07:41] <WindsofTime> How do I completely Fix the terminal
[07:41] <magnetron> WindsofTime: i am sure, it's nothing wrong with your terminal
[07:41] <faileas> hmm
[07:41] <binaryacid> does the gflrx support the 9200?
[07:41] <Noah> "/join PCLinuxOS"
[07:41] <WindsofTime> the command sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start
[07:41] <WindsofTime> can work if I manually go to terminal
[07:41] <WindsofTime> and type it
[07:41] <WindsofTime> I want to create a button
[07:41] <WindsofTime> that does all that for me
[07:41] <WindsofTime> BUT!
[07:41] <WindsofTime> When I do, and I click on it
[07:41] <WindsofTime> the screen goes black and logs me out
[07:42] <magnetron> !enter | WindsofTime
[07:42] <ubotu> WindsofTime: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:42] <WindsofTime> The script is fine, Terminal is being buggy
[07:42] <WindsofTime> Well I have been...and its gotten me to this point
[07:42] <WindsofTime> so I pace myself
[07:42] <cafuego> WindsofTime: Right click the desktop, choose "Create Launcher..." and browse to your script in the command field.
[07:42] <travis> hey guys im gonna fiddle with this tomorow
[07:42] <WindsofTime> ugh
[07:42] <travis> its 2 in the mornin here
[07:42] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I don't know why you are getting logged off but try using gksudo instead of sudo, then you won't need to run in a terminal
[07:42] <cafuego> A a pretty icon, done.
[07:42] <macogw> travis: 18 minutes til
[07:42] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U you sure?
[07:42] <travis> lol
[07:43] <travis> where are you ?
[07:43] <magnetron> WindsofTime: yep
[07:43] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, About what?
[07:43] <macogw> binaryacid: no, fglrx is for new cards.  the radeon 9200 uses the open source (and better) radeon driver
[07:43] <cafuego> WindsofTime: Starting a terminal does not quit X. If it does, you sdhould file a bug report, not tell us about it without showing us the script.
[07:43] <magnetron> !offtopic | travis
[07:43] <ubotu> travis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:43] <WindsofTime> cafuego i showed the script
[07:43] <WindsofTime> ...
[07:43] <travis> lol okkkkkkkkkkk
[07:43] <travis> thanks guys
[07:43] <travis> good night
[07:43] <cafuego> WindsofTime: Oh sorry... must have pasted it when I wa soff in the other room.
[07:44] <Dr_willis_> script was one line.command wasent it? just started lampp?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Can you open the terminal manually?
[07:44] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U it works!
[07:44] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U yes
[07:44] <WindsofTime> Jordan want me to explain a few days ago?
[07:44] <Dr_willis_> sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start , would want the sudopassword entered..  you dont want to use 'sudo' use gksudo or some other  one
[07:44] <WindsofTime> it relates to this
[07:44] <Dr_willis_> I think.
[07:45] <cafuego> Not that I want to whine, but why would you install a 3rd party LAMP stack on Ubuntu?
[07:45] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I am not sure what you mean but I am curios so sure I guess :)
[07:45] <Jordan_U> * curious
[07:45] <Dr_willis_> cafuego,  i cant understand why he needs to launch it from an icon ether. rc.local would be a better bet
[07:45] <WindsofTime> A few days ago (when I first got linux) I couldn't untar a file so I uninstalled Xarchiver and then reinstalled it...Well when i did that (it removed xbuntudesktop then replaced it)..Thanks to that I wasn't able to go to terminal via Accessories>Terminal or it would go black-screen and log me off
[07:46] <cafuego> Dr_willis_: Just add a normal init script, trivially done.
[07:46] <WindsofTime> Then I came here and told the problem
[07:46] <magnetron> macgywer LAMP
[07:46] <WindsofTime> Someone named (forgot name) had me fix the problem by basically removing the faulty Terminal and replacing it with a new one.. this fixed the problem of going manually
[07:46] <cafuego> WindsofTime: You're aware that all the lampp components are available (prepackaged) in Ubuntu, right?
[07:46] <macogw> WindsofTime: oh youre the one using xterm instead
[07:46] <WindsofTime> but When I create buttons now It uses the faulty terminal that logs me out
[07:47] <WindsofTime> I would like to rid myself of that terminal
[07:47] <macogw> uninstall it
[07:47] <WindsofTime> ...BTW I already tried a reformat and reinstall of ubuntu linux.. The terminal remains faulty
[07:47] <Dr_willis_> could be his 'alternatives' is not installed/set properly for the terminal
[07:47] <macogw> the crap terminal, i man
[07:47] <macogw> *mean
[07:47] <macogw> ohh good idea
[07:47] <WindsofTime> I know what you mean
[07:47] <macogw> install galternatives
[07:47] <Jordan_U> macogw, What terminal emulator does Xubuntu use by default?
[07:48] <macogw> and set the terminal emulator to xterm
[07:48] <Dr_willis_> Jordan_U,  "Terminal" i belive is the name
[07:48] <macogw> Jordan_U: no idea
[07:48] <WindsofTime> I think I made a bug on my own computer o.o
[07:48] <orbisvicis> WindsofTime, you using gnome (not xfce). & dont have i810 chipset ?
[07:48] <cafuego> WindsofTime: "/usr/bin/gksudo /opt/lampp/lammp start" in a standard launcher should do exactly what you want, without any need for terminals.
[07:48] <Dr_willis_> Terminal 0.2.6
[07:48] <Dr_willis_> !info Terminal
[07:48] <ubotu> Package terminal does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:48] <Dr_willis_> Hmm
[07:48] <cafuego> WindsofTime: The only problem I can foresee is if there is a bug in the /opt/lampp/lammp script.
[07:48] <orbisvicis> !gnome-terminal
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-terminal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <macogw> !info gnome-terminal
[07:48] <ubotu> gnome-terminal: The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 185 kB, installed size 432 kB
[07:49] <kitzilla> argh.
[07:49] <WindsofTime> cafuego, It isn't faulty if I am able to go manually into (the working) terminal and enter that.. and it does what its suppose to
[07:49] <Dr_willis_> what 'terminal' program is working? xterm? rxvt? gnome-terminal?
[07:49] <WindsofTime> when I create a (shortcut if you will) button the panels its using the faulty terminal
[07:49] <bullgard4> English help wanted: On a 85-key laptop computer keyboard there is a key in the lowest row between the keys 'Alt Gr' and 'Ctrl'. What is its proper English name? Is it 'shortcut menu key'?
[07:49] <WindsofTime> um
[07:49] <WindsofTime> I dont know
[07:49] <WindsofTime> ah!
[07:49] <WindsofTime> Dr_willis_
[07:49] <WindsofTime> The fellow before had me install xterm
[07:49] <george2002> hello somebody podria to say to me as it repairs east error        /etc/x11/x is not executable givin up xinitconnection refused(errno 111):unable to conectto x serverxinit:no such progress(errno3):Server error
[07:50] <WindsofTime> to replace the old default of Xubuntu terminal
[07:50] <macogw> WindsofTime: sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
[07:50] <cafuego> WindsofTime: Can you pastebin the contents of the "<button>.desktop" file that was created when you made the button?
[07:50] <macogw> WindsofTime: set it to use xterm as default instead of the xfce one
[07:50] <Dr_willis_> i perfer rxvt to xterm. :) , theres also eterm, and others
[07:50] <WindsofTime> macogw will that work for the buttons as well?
[07:50] <macogw> WindsofTime: i think so
[07:51] <macogw> WindsofTime: itll make xterm the default terminal emulator for everything
[07:51] <WindsofTime> alright
[07:51] <Dr_willis_> my system seems to be using        *+        5    /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper
[07:51] <Dr_willis_>      , as its 'default' xfce terminal
[07:51] <WindsofTime> **Goes to perform the said actions**
[07:51] <WindsofTime> I will let you know how it turns out
[07:51] <orbisvicis> !flumotion
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flumotion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <slapfaceware> i prefer aterm
[07:52] <macogw> dr_willis_ yeah gnome uses gnome-terminal.wrapper
[07:52] <orbisvicis> !info flumotion
[07:52] <ubotu> flumotion: Fluendo Streaming Server - manager, worker and admin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1 (feisty), package size 529 kB, installed size 3100 kB
[07:52] <WindsofTime>           1    /usr/bin/xterm
[07:52] <WindsofTime>           2    /usr/bin/uxterm
[07:52] <WindsofTime>           3    /usr/bin/koi8rxterm
[07:52] <WindsofTime>           4    /usr/bin/lxterm
[07:52] <WindsofTime> *+        5    /usr/bin/gnome-terminal.wrapper
[07:52] <WindsofTime>           6    /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper
[07:52] <WindsofTime> Which Do I choose?
[07:52] <Blue89> does anybody here have a mobility radeon m6ly gfx card? I need a favor
[07:52] <Dr_willis_> WindsofTime,  'think' :)  use #1
[07:53] <Blue89> I used ot use ubuntu, but I like gentoo package manager, so I switched
[07:53] <Dr_willis_> or try it.. if it fails.. try another
[07:53] <WindsofTime> lol
[07:53] <Blue89> but I am not getting the same 3D anymore
[07:53] <WindsofTime> ok thanx
[07:53] <Dr_willis_> Blue89,  i dumped gentoo because of its package manager. :)
[07:53] <macogw> WindsofTime: #1 is the one youre using
[07:53] <Dr_willis_> hes using #5 = the *+ is the selected/default.
[07:53] <Blue89> I was hoping somebody with my gfx card could pastebin their autoloaded modules file and xorg.conf file
[07:53] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I am curious how xfce4terminal is causing X to crash, and I personally don't like just working around a problem instead of solving it, so do you mind doing some debuging?
[07:54] <WindsofTime> Well Jordan_U if I knew what made this problem occured
[07:54] <WindsofTime> I would gladly tell you
[07:54] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, You should also file a bug
[07:54] <Blue89> Dr_willis, it has it's setbacks.. a bit of a double-edged sword
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> Blue89: what card?
[07:54] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I have some things to try to help figure that out :)
[07:54] <Dr_willis_> try running  /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper   and see if that works. should spawn a new terminal
[07:54] <WindsofTime> All I know is that when I uninstalled and reinstalled Xarchiver Synaptic also uninstalled and reinstalled Xubuntu Desktop
[07:54] <Blue89> "mobility radeon M6LY"
[07:54] <macogw> Jordan_U: so do what? cat `xfce-terminal` >> term-crash.txt ?
[07:54] <Dr_willis_> Blue89,  yep. more of a Double Edged Hammer. :)
[07:54] <WindsofTime> Which I think would have done that
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> M6LY ??
[07:55] <Blue89> yeah
[07:55] <Blue89> it's a laptop
[07:55] <Jordan_U> macogw, Yes, though with screen and I am not sure why you are using cat
[07:55] <Blue89> odd gfx card
[07:55] <riotkittie> argh
[07:55] <macogw> Jordan_U: because i meant echo :)
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> I have mobility radeon on my laptop, but its X1400.
[07:55] <WindsofTime> BWhahaha
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> Blue89: what laptop?
[07:55] <WindsofTime> That was the faulty terminal
[07:56] <Blue89> but I know from experience it should be going faster, there must be a tweak ubuntu uses I have not done
[07:56] <WindsofTime> When I randomly logout thats the terminal closing me =\
[07:56] <riotkittie> hm. should i try using network-manager-gnome over network-manager?
[07:56] <Blue89> it's a toshiba satellite, s-103 IIRC
[07:56] <Jordan_U> macogw, Still not necessary but at least makes sense that way :)
[07:56] <WindsofTime> Btw does PrintScreen copy DOS looking text when the screen goes black??
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> Blue89: are you on 7.04?
[07:56] <macogw> Jordan_U: you dont need anything at the start?
[07:56] <riotkittie> i was able to type in the names of my networks, and pick up signals, but i couldnt connect under the open or secure  :|
[07:56] <Blue89> not anymore
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> oh?
[07:56] <Blue89> don't take this personally, I switched to gentoo
[07:57] <faileas> WindsofTime: i don't think so. aybe you could pipe it to a text file?
[07:57] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, In a run dialog run "xterm"
[07:57] <Jordan_U> macogw, Nope, just "command >> file"
[07:57] <WindsofTime> Cross your fingers I switched Terminals
[07:57] <Blue89> I just want to know what your distro is doing differently for my card
[07:57] <macogw> Jordan_U: i guess that makes sense
[07:57] <Jordan_U> macogw, Or "command tee file" as I like to do :)
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> Blue89: gentoo has great support in #gentoo, and they have one of the best wikis out there.
[07:57] <macogw> Jordan_U: tee?
[07:57] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U keep in mind I am still quite new to Linux so I do not know all the terms or procedures that would be required to know what you speak of most of the time =\
[07:57] <Jordan_U> macogw, Erm... "command | tee file"
[07:57] <macogw> portage was too slow for me
[07:58] <WindsofTime> If I logout it means the 2nd terminal is faulty as well
[07:58] <DARKGuy> Hey! can somebody help me set up my wireless card to work as a "bridge" for connecting my laptop to the internet through it? in Windows I assign SSID, password and all and I see my wireless network in the laptop and can use the internet if I share the ethernet connection. Is this possible on Ubuntu? and if so, how?
[07:58] <Blue89> you're missing the point, I have to use my brain for that, when I can just borrow a file from your distro if somebody has my gfx card
[07:58] <Blue89> it's the same x server
[07:58] <Blue89> lol
[07:58] <macogw> Blue89: use an ubuntu live cd and copy the xorg.conf to your hard drive
[07:59] <riotkittie> or ask on the forums.
[07:59] <WindsofTime> =
[07:59] <WindsofTime> That didnt work
[07:59] <bobgill> How can I browse windows shares in the terminal? I can see them just fine in Nautilus
[07:59] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  i like the fusesmb tool
[07:59] <Dr_willis_> !info fusesmb
[07:59] <ubotu> fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 140 kB
[08:00] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  that way i make a "network' directory that has the whole lan and all the samba shares on it.
[08:00] <Blue89> bobgill, they are mounted somewhere. I would look in /mnt or maybe ~/mnt for them (but like I said, I don't use ubuntu anymore)
[08:00] <Jordan_U> macogw, It outputs to stout and writes to a file whatever is piped to it
[08:00] <bullgard4> English help wanted: On a 85-key laptop computer keyboard there is a key in the lowest row between the keys 'Alt Gr' and 'Ctrl'. What is its proper English name? Is it 'shortcut menu key'?
[08:00] <Dr_willis_>  Nautilus just 'scans' and shows the shares.it dosent mount them as far as i know.
[08:00] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: Ok I just installed it, how would I browse to windows box ?
[08:01] <DARKGuy> Hey! can somebody help me set up my wireless card to work as a "bridge" for connecting my laptop to the internet through it? in Windows I assign SSID, password and all and I see my wireless network in the laptop and can use the internet if I share the ethernet connection. Is this possible on Ubuntu? and if so, how?
[08:01] <Jordan_U> macogw, It outputs to stout and writes to a file whatever is piped to it
[08:01] <Jordan_U> macogw, It's nice for commands where you want the output saved but also need to be interactive
[08:01] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, You can open a "working" terminal now, correct?
[08:01] <Blue89> bullgard4, people usually call that the super key IIRC
[08:01] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  you will need to make a smbfuse config file, then run the command  fusesmb DirectoryName
[08:01] <Blue89> no wait, it's meta isn't it... nevermind X-D
[08:01] <macogw> bullgard4: menu key
[08:01] <WindsofTime> T_T....None of them are working
[08:02] <macogw> bullgard4: at least, thats what i call it
[08:02] <WindsofTime> Sorry Jordan_U It logged me out agian the moment you said something
[08:02] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: Ok how do I make that?
[08:02] <macogw> bullgard4: super key = the windows / sun / tux key
[08:02] <Dr_willis_> bobgill, start with the fusesmb man pages :)   man fusesmb /usr/share/man/man5/fusesmb.conf.5.gz
[08:02] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, You can open a "working" terminal now, correct? ( repeating what I said )
[08:02] <faileas> there's a tux key?
[08:02] <Blue89> I wish my laptop had a tux key instead of a windows key
[08:02] <macogw> faileas: from some companies, yes
[08:02] <WindsofTime> I can manually open a terminal
[08:02] <WindsofTime> yes
[08:02] <faileas> my laptop dosen't have a winkey ;)
[08:02] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  /usr/share/doc/fusesmb/examples/fusesmb.conf.ex, for an example, and the fusesmb web site has info also. its a simple config file
[08:02] <Blue89> faileas, high five
[08:03] <faileas> thinkpad ;)
[08:03] <WindsofTime> I cannot for some reason have anything run OFF of the terminal or it will forve a Logoff on me =\
[08:03] <WindsofTime> *force
[08:03] <PoofDaddy> How do I find out how much space is left on my hard disk?  I'm using Edgy.
[08:03] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Yes I can manually run a Terminal via Accessories>Terminal
[08:03] <macogw> PoofDaddy: df -h
[08:03] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: Ok so I just put it in ~/.smb/ right ?
[08:04] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  yep. and the permissions got to be corr3ct on it
[08:04] <bullgard4> Blue89: macogw , Blue89 : You two people call it differently. I would like to know how Ubuntu calls this key in English 'officially'.
[08:04] <riotkittie> in whose English?
[08:04] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Ok, open one and run "screen" then hit return and you should be back to a normal shell ( command prompt )
[08:04] <Blue89> yeah, which is why I shut up, I forget
[08:04] <macogw> bullgard4: well see, in Ubuntu you can set which key does what, so that's a bit of a problem
[08:04] <WindsofTime> T_T
[08:04] <bullgard4> riotkittie: Ubuntu's
[08:05] <WindsofTime> Im about to throw this computer out
[08:05] <Dr_willis_> PoofDaddy,  My Fave [08:05] <Dr_willis_> PoofDaddy,  i make that an alias. :)
[08:05] <bullgard4> macogw: And my problem too.
[08:05] <teKnofreak> WindsofTime, dont waste you computer, donate it to me ;)
[08:05] <WindsofTime> -_-
[08:05] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, You don't need to do this if you don't want, I just like fixing problems instead of working around them
[08:05] <WindsofTime> Jordan
[08:05] <alieas> Hi, I have a new kernel compiled (<IP_ADDRESS>), would like to boot it.  But I have nvidia-glx installed.  Are there steps to remove this and reinstall under the new kernel?  thnx
[08:05] <WindsofTime> so do I
[08:05] <frank0708> whois aaragon
[08:06] <WindsofTime> and I answered your questoin
[08:06] <PoofDaddy> Dr_willis_: What?
[08:06] <macogw> frank0708: you need a / before htat
[08:06] <frank0708> yeah
[08:06] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: Would the right permission be chmod a+x? or smth else?
[08:06] <frank0708> :)
[08:06] <mario> hello I'm trying to install xubuntu on my laptop, and I downloaded the iso, could someone explain to me how to do it without burning the cd. I'm looking to do an installation from the hardrive
[08:06] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U I CAN open a working terminal Manually Applications>Accessories>Terminal.. Now what
[08:06] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Have you opened a terminal and run screen?
[08:06] <WindsofTime> Run screen?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Ok, open one and run "screen" then hit return and you should be back to a normal shell ( command prompt )
[08:06] <macogw> alieas: dont need to remove it, but you need to get the source deb for it and recompile it
[08:07] <newbie3> my squid keep telling "cache access denied" what should i do?
[08:07] <macogw> mario: with a dual boot? you could use wubi
[08:07] <WindsofTime> it is telling me info
[08:07] <WindsofTime> do I hit space of return?
[08:07] <WindsofTime> *or
[08:07] <macogw> mario: well, im guessing it can do xubuntu. i know wubi can do ubuntu
[08:07] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Either one
[08:07] <WindsofTime> now what
[08:07] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  -rw------- 1 willis willis   0 2007-08-14 00:32 fusesmb.conf
[08:07] <alieas> macogw: so just get the matching source deb, and then re-compile after new kernel boot ?
[08:07] <macogw> alieas: yes
[08:08] <alieas> macogw: excellent, thank you
[08:08] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Run "xfce4terminal | tee terminalcrash.txt"
[08:08] <mario> macogw: I have ubuntu on one partition, and I want to put xubuntu on the other
[08:08] <CruX> hmm Compiz Fusion 0.5.2 released
[08:08] <CruX> can you give me repository vith this ?
[08:08] <WindsofTime> bash not found
[08:08] <Dr_willis_> mario,  why bother?
[08:08] <macogw> mario: oh....umm...i think you have to burn something.
[08:08] <CruX> 0 days packages :)
[08:08] <riotkittie> errr. if you have ubuntu on one partition, why not just install the xubuntu desktop pkg?
[08:08] <Jordan_U> mario, Why not just install XFCE ?
[08:08] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: ok I got the permission right it told me what to do, but I did "fusesmb ~/Network" and I got: fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied
[08:08] <macogw> mario: why not do apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:08] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U:   "jamescorkran@ORCHID:~$ xfce4terminal | tee terminalcrash.txt
[08:08] <WindsofTime> bash: xfce4terminal: command not found
[08:08] <WindsofTime> "
[08:08] <riotkittie> of xfce
[08:08] <macogw> crux: maybe trevino's repositories have it
[08:09] <macogw> WindsofTime: theres a - before terminal
[08:09] <teKnofreak> mario, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[08:09] <mario> macogni: will that give me a clean xubuntu install on the other partition?
[08:09] <macogw> mario: no it lets you pick ubuntu or xubuntu when you boot
[08:09] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  you havent read the docs yet have ya. :) you need to set your user to the fuse group. in /etc/groups, and logout/backin
[08:09] <macogw> mario: er, when you log in i mean
[08:10] <riotkittie> mario: do you really need a clean xubuntu install? ubuntu and xubuntu are for the most part, the same beneath the desktop package. you can use both desktops on the same partition, just switch between sessions
[08:10] <macogw> mario: theyre identical except for the interface. underneath, it's all the same, so there's no point in having both, really
[08:10] <Dr_willis_> the 'desktop' is just another set of programs. :)
[08:10] <WindsofTime> macogw, its xfce4terminal | tee- terminalcrash.txt ????
[08:10] <macogw> WindsofTime: no xfce4-terminal
[08:10] <WindsofTime> alright
[08:10] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, My mistake, sorry
[08:10] <WindsofTime> its ok
[08:10] <WindsofTime> :)
[08:10] <macogw> WindsofTime: the first termina
[08:10] <macogw> l
[08:10] <macogw> terminal
[08:10] <WindsofTime> I have made worse mistakes >.>
[08:10] <teKnofreak> mario, if you want it for testing purposes, you can try it over a virtual machine :)
[08:11] <macogw> like virtual box!
[08:11] <Shaye> I've installed another language package but how do I actually change between languages in the OS?
[08:11] <WindsofTime> Well as you can tell that didn't work
[08:11] <WindsofTime> being it logged me out
[08:11] <WindsofTime> ..agian
[08:11] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: I have no /etc/groups, I went to system>admin>User Settings.. in Manage Groups I went to fuse > Properties and checked my user as a Group Member, is that correct?
[08:11] <mario> I'm using ubuntu with XFCE already, but it's really screwed up as I messed with it allot before I really understood anything. So I'm looking for a new installation and I figured since i like XFCE the best anyways, I might aswell install xubuntu
[08:11] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, But now we can look at any error it outputed
[08:11] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  its proberly /etc/group (go figure)
[08:12] <WindsofTime> O really?
[08:12] <Dr_willis_> I just edit the file bobgill . :) never use the gui tools
[08:12] <bobgill> don't have that either
[08:12] <WindsofTime> It logged me out, I dont think it made anything o.o
[08:12] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, There should be a text file in your home folder called terminalcrash.txt
[08:12] <WindsofTime> um ok
[08:12] <riotkittie> mario: why not just remove xfce, purge the settings, reinstall?
[08:12] <Shaye> I've installed another language package but how do I actually change between languages in the OS?
[08:12] <WindsofTime> There is
[08:12] <WindsofTime> How did you know it would do this?!!? O_O
[08:12] <riotkittie> and then remove the ubuntu-desktop, if you have no desire to use gnome?
[08:12] <bobgill> oh nm I do :)
[08:12] <Dr_willis_> WindsofTime,  'logical thinking' :)
[08:12] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Because I told it too :)
[08:12] <WindsofTime> ROFL!! It has nothing in it >_>
[08:13] <thepat20> Hey, anyone want to help a n00b with a problem?
[08:13] <mario> riotkittie: because X crashes on me all the time independent of window manager
[08:13] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, That is unfortunate :)
[08:13] <WindsofTime> Sadly it is
[08:13] <riotkittie> Shaye: i have no clue. try poking around in the preferences or admin menus under system?
[08:13] <WindsofTime> Any alternatives?
[08:13] <Dr_willis_> mario,  try making a new user. see if it works right for them - if so copy all their settings over to your other user. :)
[08:13] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Try running "screen -X" in a terminal
[08:13] <WindsofTime> I will try
[08:13] <alieas> macogw: 1 question:  apt-get install nvidia-glx-kernel-source, now I have extracted nvidia-kernel-source in /usr/src.  Is this what I need to compile after new kernel boot?
[08:13] <trwww> I really have to bang on the touchpad to get it to register a click. How do I adjust the tap pressure on the touchpad? I installed QSynaptics, but theres only a couple settings under the "Tapping" tab, none that say anything about tap pressure.
[08:14] <WindsofTime> Please specify a Command
[08:14] <teKnofreak> Shaye, in KDE it is in control center --> regional and languages
[08:14] <macogw> Shaye: pick language on the login screen.  it might be under options or sessions in different login menus
[08:14] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Sorry again, lower case "x"
[08:14] <thepat20> who here uses frostwire?
[08:14] <WindsofTime> ok
[08:14] <WindsofTime> lol its ok
[08:14] <Dr_willis_> !frostwire
[08:14] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:14] <Dr_willis_> thepat20,  not used it in several months :)
[08:14] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U It shows lots of text
[08:14] <macogw> thepat20: are you using beryl and having frostwire not show up?
[08:14] <WindsofTime> Shall I PM it to you?
[08:14] <dvm> Howto switch the SCIM language by changing the env variable or shell commands?
[08:15] <thepat20> english please
[08:15] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Pastebin it
[08:15] <thepat20> i have had ubuntu for.... 3 days
[08:15] <macogw> thepat20: that was english....
[08:15] <WindsofTime> As you desire
[08:15] <Jordan_U> !paste | WindsofTime
[08:15] <ubotu> WindsofTime: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:15] <WindsofTime> I know how ^^
[08:15] <Dr_willis_> it was very english.. given that you dident ask much of a question... :)
[08:15] <riotkittie> I am having difficulties with my wireless - it's a Netgear MA111 usb adapter. I have searched, read, followed a guide for breezy and dapper -though I am on Feisty- and am fairly lost. iwconfig does show wlan0 and my essid and all of that...
[08:16] <riotkittie> and if i manually config [name + key]  in Network Manager, i can pick up signals on both my public and private networks. but. i can't seem to connect
[08:16] <mario> i really just want to make a new install and I can't burn a cd, so I was curious as to how to do it directly from the iso
[08:16] <thepat20> i was a windows wiz for a long time, and i dont understand ubuntu very well
[08:16] <macogw> alieas: yeah, i believe so
[08:16] <macogw> thepat20: what part wasnt english to you?
[08:16] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U:  http://pastebin.org/509
[08:16] <Dr_willis_> thepat20,  theres a great many starter guides on the ubuntu site. and other web sites.
[08:16] <thepat20> not literally english, like n00b speak
[08:17] <thepat20> yeah i just got that link gonna go check it
[08:17] <macogw> thepat20:  dude, i asked "are you using beryl and when you run frostwire, frostwire doesnt show up?"
[08:17] <Shaye> teKnofreak, I have "Language support"
[08:17] <Shaye> Under the control-center
[08:17] <riotkittie> mario > and you dont have a disc on hand?  :o
[08:17] <macogw> thepat20: "doesnt show up" should be easy enough to understand, i would think
[08:17] <Dr_willis_> yep - with linux it Pays BIG time to read. :) and read.. and read...
[08:17] <thepat20> yeah beryl confused me
[08:17] <Shaye> But It's already enabled there
[08:17] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U as I can read: It seems I have a fatal error
[08:17] <thepat20> i think that i am using the F version, Feisty Fawn
[08:17] <macogw> thepat20: thatd be a compositing window manager that lets you get wobbly windows and desktop cube and lots of other stuff
[08:17] <Dr_willis_> thepat20,  a beginner shouldent even be LOOKING at beryl stuff
[08:17] <sapumal>  how can I check the package to which a file is belong to in Solaris? (!Ubuntu but Please help me)
[08:17] <riotkittie> given what i've said above, can i rule out a driver issue?
[08:17] <macogw> thepat20: it's also a type of gem
[08:18] <teKnofreak> Shaye, try logging out, then change in the languages under login menu, relogin
[08:18] <Shaye> K brb
[08:18] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, That is wonderfully unhelpful, it basically says that the terminal crashed because X crashed, but doesn't help us know why X crashed ( which was caused by the terminal )
[08:18] <alieas> macogw:  yeah it looks correct.  I was thrown off by the sub-directories.  this appears to build the module, thanks again
[08:18] <macogw> alieas: no problem
[08:18] <WindsofTime> =\
[08:18] <thepat20> all i am trying to do is install Frostwire, i downloaded the package and installed it, now wondering what to do
[08:18] <Parisi_work> Hello
[08:18] <WindsofTime> I am sorry but that is what it said to me
[08:18] <mario> riotkittie: I have a cd on hand, i just can't get ubuntu to burn an iso
[08:18] <macogw> thepat20: run it?
[08:18] <Dr_willis_> thepat20,  I think the command is 'frostwire' to run it..
[08:18] <thepat20> yes sir
[08:19] <thepat20> u have to run it from the terminal?
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> thepat20: you need to install java too.
[08:19] <macogw> thepat20: you can
[08:19] <Bllz> hey guys. quick question.  I'm going to reinstall ubuntu and i was wondering what the recommended partition setup was?
[08:19] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U
[08:19] <thepat20> crap. i hate java
[08:19] <macogw> thepat20: or add a thing to the menu to run it
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: the default one that the installer creates.
[08:19] <Dr_willis_> thepat20,  frostwire is written in java. :)
[08:19] <Bllz> just looking for input really...
[08:19] <WindsofTime> I am able to go back onto the GNOME desktop and use terminal normally if that can help any
[08:19] <macogw> thepat20: well frostwire and limewire are java apps
[08:19] <Dr_willis_> as is limewire
[08:19] <thepat20> macogw, can i pm u
[08:19] <Dr_willis_> !p2p
[08:19] <macogw> thepat20: if you dont want java, use gtk-gnutella
[08:19] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:19] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:19] <sapumal> how can I check the package to which a file is belong to in solaris (!Ubuntu but please help me)
[08:19] <Ashfire908> could i get some help with wvdial? one computer i use it on dials the number then times out with a "no carrier detected" error.
[08:20] <Bllz> fyrestrtr, what about making the /home part separate?
[08:20] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Can you tell me how I may access this?
[08:20] <macogw> sapumal: what makes you think any of us would know?
[08:20] <Parisi_work> Hey anyone wanna buy some cheap SCO shares?
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: that is up to you; how you want to set it up.
[08:20] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, That is because gnome uses gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal is the one that has problems
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: but for 99% of people, the default setup suffices.
[08:20] <macogw> Parisi_work: theyre down 1.12% today, probably thanks to that ruling
[08:20] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:20] <Parisi_work> macd, i was being sarcastic :)
[08:20] <sapumal> Ashfire908 : http://sapumal.blogspot.com/2006/12/internet-access-via-bluetooth-dun.html
[08:21] <mario> does someone know how to install Ubuntu on another partition from withing Ubuntu without having to burn the iso
[08:21] <macogw> Parisi_work: i know.  i put the "invest" applet on my panel to watch SCOX after the ruling
[08:21] <Bllz> fyrestrtr:  okay.  The thing is the default gives me WAAAY too much swap space, so maybe i'll just go ahead and do it manually.  There's no major advantage to separating / and /home?
[08:21] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Or by navigating to it from the file manager, "Filesystem" is the same as "/"
[08:21] <macogw> mario: someone sent you to a link about installing from linux
[08:21] <WindsofTime> Im pastebinning it now
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> the major advantage is that if you ever hose up your system, your personal files will remain safe should you re-install.
[08:21] <Dr_willis_> mario,  good luck with that.
[08:21] <Ashfire908> sapumal: i am not accessing the internet via bluetooth.
[08:21] <Jordan_U> Bllz, Makes switching distros / re-installing easier
[08:22] <Parisi_work> macd: :)
[08:22] <macogw> Parisi_work: youre not pinging me, ya know
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: how much ram do you have?
[08:22] <mario> macogw: thanks, I totally missed it. (I was reading the wubu site)
[08:22] <Bllz> jordan_u:  okay so if i want to separate them i just define the mount points as / and /home respectively?
[08:22] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U:  Enjoy reading this o.o  http://pastebin.org/510
[08:22] <Bllz> fyrestrtr:  3gb
[08:22] <Jordan_U> Bllz, Yes
[08:22] <sapumal> Ashfire908: sorry
[08:22] <Bllz> and it gives me 6 gb of swap... way too much
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: laptop?
[08:23] <Bllz> desktop
[08:23] <thepat20> peace
[08:23] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, done ;)
[08:23] <WindsofTime> Your done already?
[08:23] <WindsofTime> o_O
[08:23] <Parisi_work> macd I did not know i was supposed?
[08:23] <Parisi_work> "supposed to"
[08:23] <macogw> Parisi_work: you keep typing someone else's nick, not mine
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: if you want to hibernate, then you need large amounts of swap -- also, if you plan to install oracle and some other apps, they require a set amount of *swap* (in addition to the memory requirement)
[08:24] <lambertz> i did update my ubuntu from edgy to feisty, but now i'm with seriously font problems!! my dpkg try to install  x-ttcidfont-conf but it says error, and programs a lot depends from this package
[08:24] <Bllz> fyrestrtr:  I was thinking of just giving myself like 512 mb of swap... i feel like that's more than enough?  And seeing as i dont even know what oracle is, lol, i think i should be okay
[08:24] <Bllz> what do you think?
[08:24] <Parisi_work> macogw Gotcha, That is what i get for trying to do 3 things at once, my apologies.
[08:24] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Unfortunately that is no help either :(
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: stick with 1GB
[08:24] <WindsofTime> T_T
[08:24] <Shaye> It didn't help teKnofreak
[08:24] <teKnofreak> Shaye, ?
[08:24] <Bllz> kk will do
[08:24] <Shaye> strange
[08:25] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, This is a truly bizarre problem
[08:25] <teKnofreak> Shaye, :-s ohhh
[08:25] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U do you think a reinstallation of Xubuntu would fix it?
[08:25] <WindsofTime> not the Entire Ubuntu
[08:25] <Shaye> is there anything else I need to install maybe?
[08:25] <WindsofTime> just Xubuntu
[08:25] <Bllz> fyrestrtr:  one more question.  if i do a separate / and /home, will my desktop be on the / or /home partition?
[08:25] <macogw> Shaye: programs are translated on a per-application basis, so if some programs havent been translated, theyll stay english
[08:25] <Bllz> and is it / or \?
[08:25] <teKnofreak> Shaye, is the language you want listed there ?
[08:25] <macogw> Bllz: on /home
[08:25] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Since I don't know what is causing it anything is possible
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: /home
[08:25] <macogw> Bllz:  /
[08:25] <macogw> Bllz: not \
[08:25] <macogw> Bllz: \ is for windows
[08:25] <Bllz> okay. thanks a lot guys!
[08:25] <teKnofreak> Shaye, check the menus, are they in your language ?
[08:25] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Can you guide me in a complete and successful reinstall of Xubuntu?
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: desktop is /home/yourusername/Desktop
[08:26] <Bllz> i'll check in if i have any issues but that just about answers all of my questions
[08:26] <Bllz> kk thanks fyrestrtr
[08:26] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Didn't you say that you already tried re-installing?
[08:26] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U I already tried re-installing the ENTIRE Ubuntu
[08:26] <mesapiegrande> I could use some help accessing a windows share from Ubuntu.  Samba has me wrapped around the axle.  Could anyone assist me?
[08:26] <WindsofTime> not just one peice of it
[08:26] <Shaye> teKnofreak,  no, everything is in english, I don't want the softwares/os itself to be in that language I just want to be able to type/search in that language
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> mesapiegrande: symptoms?
[08:27] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Then just re-installing XFCE is not likely to do anything
[08:27] <WindsofTime> Any suggestions?
[08:27] <teKnofreak> Shaye, ah, then try SCIM :)
[08:27] <teKnofreak> !scim
[08:27] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[08:27] <WindsofTime> What can I lose if I just go back to useing GNOME?
[08:27] <Ashfire908> !wvdial
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wvdial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <lambertz> my dpkg try to install  x-ttcidfont-conf but it says error, and programs a lot depends from this package
[08:27] <mesapiegrande> I can see the windows network (MSHOME) but when I try to open up the specific PC it says access denied
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: probably a lot of problems ;)
[08:28] <teKnofreak> Shaye, which language are you trying ?
[08:28] <WindsofTime> :(
[08:28] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Just for kicks though we can try re-installing xfce4-terminal with "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfce4-terminal"
[08:28] <WindsofTime> Shall I try to perform that on GNOME ? just for safety?
[08:28] <Shaye> teKnofreak, Hebrew, but it's listen everywhere, I just think I need to enable it somehow
[08:28] <jose244> hey guys im new to the community!, does anyone know if theres any devlopers willing to be my mentor?
[08:28] <Shaye> Listed*
[08:29] <Ashfire908> !wvdial
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wvdial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, No need, it's just re-installing a terminal emulator ( that you aren't even currently using )
[08:29] <lambertz> !fonts
[08:29] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> jose244: #ubuntu-devel
[08:29] <Rockinghorse> WindsofTime: Xubuntu is not a big dl: a gig maybe.
[08:29] <macogw> jose244: support channel
[08:29] <WindsofTime> =\
[08:29] <jose244> ok thx
[08:29] <oranye> slllllllllloooooooooo
[08:30] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Have you ever filed a bug on launchpad before/
[08:30] <Jordan_U> ?
[08:30] <WindsofTime> no sir
[08:30] <Doomguy0505> Does anybody know why ntfs partitions on my hard drive are read only?
[08:30] <Ashfire908> is there a site for wvdial?
[08:30] <gerso> hello room
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs > Doomguy0505
[08:30] <teKnofreak> Shaye, for me, in KDE, if i go to "regional/languages' in control center, i have to install "hebrew" and then bring it to the top of the list to enable it
[08:30] <macogw> jose244: if you want to be mentored, check out launchpad.net where bugs are reported and features are wishlisted and find one you would like to help with that is offering mentors (i think it shows a swiss flag...like ski patrol...if they are)
[08:30] <macogw> Doomguy0505: because the driver is read-only :)
[08:30] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, That is probably the best way to get down to the real problem, and get it fixed so others don't also run into it
[08:31] <macogw> Doomguy0505: you need ntfs-3g for a driver that can read and write
[08:31] <WindsofTime> jamescorkran@ORCHID:~$ sudo apt-get install -- reinstall xfce4-terminal
[08:31] <WindsofTime> Reading package lists... Done
[08:31] <WindsofTime> Building dependency tree
[08:31] <WindsofTime> Reading state information... Done
[08:31] <WindsofTime> E: Couldn't find package reinstall
[08:31] <faileas> hmm
[08:31] <macogw> WindsofTime: no space
[08:31] <WindsofTime> lol
[08:31] <Shaye> teKnofreak,  but I installed it from the synpatic first
[08:31] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, No space between -- and reinstall
[08:31] <WindsofTime> I hate myself :(
[08:31] <teKnofreak> Shaye, what did you install ?
[08:31] <faileas> neat i worked out a hack to access my wubi/ubuntu images from windows ;)
[08:31] <Shaye> some packages, lol
[08:31] <gerso> i need help, here is my problem... i tried to install some usbmanager and it messed with my kernel and changed the boot file.  how can i fix this?
[08:31] <Shaye> wait ill check
[08:32] <teKnofreak> Shaye, if you have installed font, it wont enable the language
[08:32] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, bugs.ubuntu.com you will need to create an account
[08:32] <WindsofTime> Jordan ok, I did what you asked though
[08:32] <macogw> gerso: edit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:32] <lambertz> WindsofTime: u're trying "-- reinstall"
[08:32] <WindsofTime> Where shall I go now
[08:32] <WindsofTime> Its done
[08:32] <lambertz> the correct is --reinstall
[08:32] <gerso> macogw, what exactly do i change in that file?
[08:32] <mesapiegrande> Where can I go for some help with using SAMBA to access windows shares?
[08:32] <macogw> gerso: i dont know.  i dont know what you broke
[08:32] <WindsofTime> lambertz thank you, but that was covered and now it is completed
[08:33] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Ok try running "xfce4-terminal" from the same terminal I had you run screen from
[08:33] <teKnofreak> mesapiegrande, #samba
[08:33] <mesapiegrande> ty teK
[08:34] <WindsofTime> This is probably no help
[08:34] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime,  I guess that means it is still broken :)
[08:34] <WindsofTime> but
[08:34] <WindsofTime> I saw the terminal before it logged me out
[08:34] <WindsofTime> Its like it opened then logged me out
[08:34] <lambertz> i did update my distr, but now i'm with seriously font problems! my dpkg is trying to install  x-ttcidfont-conf, but it returns in a error, and X can't initialize 'cause this font and their dependencies.
[08:34] <mario> exit
[08:34] <Ashfire908> can anyone help me with wvdial?
[08:34] <Parisi_work> Gimme something to do people
[08:34] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, One last trick...
[08:34] <Shaye> teKnofreak,  OK i uninstalled the packages, then went to regional/language, it installed hebrew package, now how do i type in hebrew? like in windows that u have en/he for example, and u switch with ALT+SHIFT
[08:34] <WindsofTime> Hopefully the lucky one
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> Shaye: add the keyboard switcher applet to the panel.
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> Shaye: then right click on it, and select keyboard preferences. Add the keyboard you want. Default switch key is both left and right alt keys
[08:35] <teKnofreak>   ' ?
[08:36] <teKnofreak> oh hebrew is from right to left :D
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> I think japanese is top down
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> imagine the headache there lol
[08:36] <WindsofTime> or down top
[08:36] <WindsofTime> o.o
[08:36] <macogw> top down starting on the right
[08:37] <n2diy_is_watchin> Dvorak here
[08:37] <macogw> or left to right starting at the top (like we read english)
[08:37] <macogw> japanese people switch it up :P
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> japanese terminals must have insane scrollback buffers
[08:37] <WindsofTime> japanese people rox
[08:37] <macogw> signs are often vertical on the sides of buildings, and official things are vertical, but a quick note might be written horizontally
[08:37] <faileas> naw
[08:37] <faileas> they usually write it horizontally unless its formal
[08:37] <faileas> same for chinese
[08:37] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Try moving the config file fore xfce4-terminal... once I can find out where it is that is :)
[08:37] <WindsofTime> lol
[08:38] <WindsofTime> ok
[08:38] <teKnofreak> anyway, each symbol is almost a word, so you can find what the entire thing means
[08:38] <WindsofTime> **Waits to find out how to do this**
[08:38] <randoman> hey guys, does anyone know why nzb isnt downloading to the dir im telling it to?
[08:38] <Shaye> teKnofreak,  thanks, it's now all good ;).
[08:38] <macogw> ?
[08:38] <randoman> and why does it ask me for a media player?
[08:38] <teKnofreak> Shaye, welcome :)
[08:38] <WindsofTime> Anyone here watch the Japanese movie "Onimujii" ??
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> yaay @ swiggles I can't understand.
[08:38] <bullgard4> English help wanted: A left-click on the GNOME_Power_Manager applet will open a shortcut menu with 3 entries. What are the English names of these 3 entries? Are they 'laptop battery (78%)', 'Standby' and 'Hibernate'?
[08:38] <Shaye> btw, is there any way to set 'language' change with the keyboard rather than left mouse click?
[08:39] <Parisi_work> bbl guys
[08:39] <macogw> fyrestrtr: it says "see? from left to right"
[08:39] <teKnofreak> Shaye, check keyboard shortcuts
[08:39] <WindsofTime> macogw you know how to read japanese?
[08:39] <WindsofTime> cool!
[08:39] <macogw> WindsofTime: i just typed in it, didnt i?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> macogw, Is there a way to have other languages show up with AA ?
[08:39] <WindsofTime> psh I could just be a translator <_<
[08:39] <WindsofTime> j/k
[08:40] <macogw> AA?
[08:40] <WindsofTime> *it
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> bullgard4: Laptop Battery (78%), Suspend, Hibernate
[08:40] <Jordan_U> macogw, Anti-ailiasing not the right word for when talking about fonts but hopefully you get what I mean
[08:40] <macogw> WindsofTime:
[08:41] <macogw> Jordan_U: sorry, i dont know
[08:41] <macogw> Jordan_U: subpixel smoothing?
[08:41] <Jordan_U> macogw, Yes
[08:41] <WindsofTime> macogw, I am not a translator as my last sentence proclaim.. It was a typo =\
[08:41] <macogw> i assumed it worked on all languages installed
[08:41] <bullgard4> fyrestrtr: Does this apply to Gnome_Power_Manager version 2.18.2?
[08:41] <Shaye> nothing there
[08:41] <macogw> WindsofTime: i know. you said i couldve used a translator
[08:41] <Jordan_U> macogw, Do those japanese characters look blocky to you also?
[08:41] <WindsofTime> ah
[08:41] <macogw> windoi said "ive been studying for 4 years" in response
[08:42] <WindsofTime> and I did say /jk
[08:42] <faileas> not all ;)
[08:42] <WindsofTime> *j/k
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> bullgard4: how do I know the version?
[08:42] <macogw> WindsofTime: i meant to ping you on that.  i said "ive been studying for 4 years" in response to you saying i used a translator
[08:42] <r0b-> Nix
[08:42] <r0b-> nixternal
[08:42] <macogw> Jordan_U: theyre supposed to look blocky
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> macogw: that first character looks like a sine wave in a box :P
[08:42] <WindsofTime> and being I said j/k .. I meant it as non insulting .. so forgive me if I offended you =(
[08:43] <macogw> Jordan_U: if you smooth it, the lines would run together too much, i think
[08:43] <macogw> fyrestrtr: that's "yon" which means 4
[08:43] <lambertz> error installing mono-common, buffer_read(fd) fail, md5hash: input/output error. What I do at this moment? =(
[08:43] <Jordan_U> macogw, They don't in OSx, at lest from what I can remember
[08:43] <masterloki> just wondering what would happen if I deleted one of the bin file in root
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> macogw: 'word'
[08:44] <macogw> masterloki: bad thingw
[08:44] <macogw> *thigns
[08:44] <macogw> *things
[08:44] <WindsofTime> very bad things
[08:44] <macogw> bah i think i spell better in japanese than english
[08:44] <WindsofTime> you do quite well in both ^^
[08:44] <bullgard4> fyrestrtr: Right-click on this applet. A menu will open. Press on the last item 'Info'. A dialog field will open and tell you the version of your current GNOME_Power_Manager.
[08:44] <WindsofTime> **Sits patiently as Jordan finds where the config for xterminal is**
[08:44] <WindsofTime> Sorry Jordan_U for so much trouble
[08:45] <PoofDaddy> What's a .xlr file?  An excel file or similar?
[08:45] <macogw> xls is excel
[08:45] <macogw> ods is open document spreadsheet
[08:45] <macogw> ive no idea what xlr is
[08:45] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Not at all, I like a good challenge :)
[08:46] <PoofDaddy> macogw: i can't open it with ubuntu.  How do you suggest I be able to open it?
[08:46] <reflous> is there a way to disable the screensaver when mplayer is in fullscreen?
[08:46] <macogw> PoofDaddy: first, find out what the heck it is
[08:46] <joe_giampaoli> Hi all, I just remounted a FAT32 drive that used to be NTFS, I managed to munt it, but how do I make it only readable? This is the line belonging to it on fstab: /dev/hda2 /media/hda2     vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[08:47] <dice14u> hello everyone, I just got an intel quad core q6600 with an MSI - jmicron controller when I install ubuntu grub gives me an error 21
[08:47] <dice14u> I know this error means it can't read the disk
[08:48] <joe_giampaoli> (slight little bump?)*
[08:48] <masterloki> macog I guess I well not do that then just trying To understand ubuntu better
[08:48] <dice14u> but the thing is I know the disks work and are accessable
[08:50] <macogw> dice14u: i think the jmicron is the trouble
[08:50] <hat> hello
[08:50] <hat> i have problem with VLC program
[08:50] <hat> i want to open file py  UDP/RTP port by command line
[08:50] <jherrera> is ifconfig meant to run only as root?
[08:51] <dice14u> macogw thats what im getting off the forums
[08:51] <hat> how can i do that
[08:51] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I am pretty sure it's ~/.config/Terminal/
[08:51] <macogw> jherrera: no
[08:51] <teKnofreak> jherrera, am afraid yes
[08:51] <MasterShrek> jherrera, modifying the config is
[08:51] <teKnofreak> err.. no
[08:51] <macogw> jherrera: well it can print as not-root, but modifying stuff requires root
[08:51] <MasterShrek> u can look at it as a user
[08:51] <teKnofreak> jherrera, ifconfig eth0 --> no, ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> --> yes
[08:52] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, So try "mv ~/.config/Terminal ~/.config/Terminal-backup" then try starting xfce4-terminal again ( again from the same terminal where screen is running )
[08:52] <jherrera> kk guys
[08:52] <hat> please help me
[08:52] <jherrera> ifconfig its in sbin, so it shouldn't ve visible for all users (I think)
[08:52] <Jordan_U> !helpme | hat
[08:52] <ubotu> hat: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:52] <macogw> !ask | hat
[08:53] <jherrera> I don't know why does path was modified :|
[08:53] <poningru> jherrera: ifconfig is allowed for everyone
[08:53] <poningru> err well for users executable
[08:53] <hat> i want to open file py  UDP/RTP port by command line how can i do that
[08:53] <WindsofTime> JOrdan ok
[08:53] <lambertz> error installing mono-common, buffer_read(fd) fail, md5hash: input/output error. What I do at this moment? =(
[08:53] <jherrera> does everybody has /usr/sbin in $PATH?
[08:53] <hat> vlc
[08:54] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U : jamescorkran@ORCHID:~$ ~/.config/Terminal
[08:54] <WindsofTime> bash: /home/jamescorkran/.config/Terminal: No such file or directory
[08:54] <Jordan_U> jherrera, By default yes
[08:55] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Strange... that may be the problem
[08:55] <bullgard4> jherrera: Yes, I do have in $PATH /usr/sbin in my Ubuntu 7.04.
[08:55] <jherrera> Jordan_U :O ok, I think other distros don't have it by default for users(just root)
[08:55] <WindsofTime> lol indeed
[08:57] <jherrera> bullgard4 thanks
[08:57] <WindsofTime> So it seems that the terminal doesn't have a Config file
[08:57] <macogw> jherrera: i think thats why it can print "permission denied" instead of "command not found"
[08:57] <WindsofTime> This is fixable?
[08:57] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Yes
[08:57] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I will pastebin my config file for you to try
[08:57] <jherrera> macogw, indeed, that must be the reason :)
[08:57] <Doomguy0505> How do i use ntfs-3g after installing it?
[08:57] <Jordan_U> Doomguy0505, Install ntfs-config
[08:57] <WindsofTime> As you wish
[08:58] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Though it should be created automatically when xfce4-terminal sees there is none
[08:59] <WindsofTime> =\
[09:00] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33659/ ...
[09:01] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U what would you like to save me as the text as and where?
[09:02] <dcode> /leave
[09:03] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, mkdir /.config/Terminal/ && gedit ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc
[09:04] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[09:04] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Paste it in gedit then save
[09:04] <WindsofTime> I havn't saved the config yet
[09:04] <WindsofTime> o
[09:04] <WindsofTime> ok
[09:04] <Durmant_> Hello all
[09:04] <ZAKhan> i have installed compiz and its working.. but in the update manager it keeps on showing that there is an update compiz-core but even installing it a few times it remains there .. how do i resolve it?
[09:04] <shadeofgrey> listen...  i have a huge problem..  i have absolutely no idea iof i set upo my feedburner feed thing right on my website and need someone to hit up the homepage and tell me if the damn thing works
[09:04] <lambertz> my dpkg says md5hash error, but how i fix md5 sum?
[09:04] <Durmant_> Im glad to say that I got my problems fixed from lastnight
[09:04] <Jordan_U> ZAKhan, #ubuntu-effects
[09:05] <WindsofTime> mkdir: cannot create directory `/.config/Terminal/': No such file or directory
[09:05] <WindsofTime> jamescorkran@ORCHID:~$
[09:05] <Durmant_> got a new minor thing though
[09:05] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, mkdir ~/.config/Terminal/ && gedit ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc
[09:05] <shadeofgrey> www.thetruthdirective.com if anybody has a minute
[09:05] <WindsofTime> Thats what I did
[09:05] <Durmant_> How do I make it so when I am browsing websites, when I hit the backspace key...it is like hitting the back button in the browser?
[09:05] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I forgot the ~ :) I really need to start proofreading my commands
[09:05] <WindsofTime> lol
[09:05] <WindsofTime> alright
[09:05] <shadeofgrey> hey by the way
[09:06] <Jordan_U> That and go to sleep :)
[09:06] <WindsofTime> It is saved
[09:06] <WindsofTime> Sorry to keep you up =\
[09:06] <shadeofgrey> does anybody here know if the new version of ubuntu can take advantage of the eight cores in the newest macpro
[09:06] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Ok, same deal run xfce4-terminal from the same terminal screen is running in
[09:06] <WindsofTime> ok
[09:06] <WindsofTime> this terminal screen
[09:06] <WindsofTime> o.O
[09:07] <WindsofTime> Since I logged out it closed the terminal that we did the screen command on
[09:07] <WindsofTime> so I had to open another terminal
[09:07] <WindsofTime> this ok?
[09:07] <n2diy> Durmant_: just hit the backspace key?
[09:07] <shadeofgrey> i asked the dream foundation for a macpro desktop with 8 gig of ram a shitload of diskspace and the Nvidia Quadro 4500 video card and they actually fucking did!
[09:07] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I would assume so, it can handle *many* more than that on servers
[09:07] <WindsofTime> shadeofgrey, Please do not curse
[09:07] <WindsofTime> This is a family-oriented enviroment
[09:08] <Durmant> Anybody know?
[09:08] <shadeofgrey> sorry WindsofTime -- im just -- more excited than ive ever been in my whole life
[09:08] <Durmant> nope
[09:08] <WindsofTime> Thats quite alright :)
[09:08] <shadeofgrey> ive never once owned a dream machine
[09:08] <WindsofTime> Nor have I
[09:08] <Durmant> backspace at the moment just brings me to the top of the webpage
[09:08] <WindsofTime> Im using an 7yr old comp
[09:08] <shadeofgrey> they even went for getting me two dell 30" displays and a wacom tablet
[09:08] <WindsofTime> that was made with spare parts :)
[09:08] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U
[09:09] <WindsofTime> Watch closley now
[09:09] <WindsofTime> If I logout
[09:09] <WindsofTime> you know why ^_^
[09:09] <Durmant> Its kinda annoying
[09:09] <leagris> Can someone help on debuging "add_to_rules: PHYSDEV* values are deprecated" at boot time on my laptop? Here is a paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33546/
[09:09] <WindsofTime> 3..2...1.. Here I go
[09:09] <WindsofTime> Durmant Im not trying to
[09:09] <macogw> Durmant: "about:config" in firefox should have it somewhere
[09:10] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, do you think ubuntu can handle two displays at the same time?
[09:10] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, :(
[09:10] <WindsofTime> And there we have it
[09:10] <macogw> shadeofgrey: sure it can
[09:10] <WindsofTime> It seems this is unfixable
[09:10] <macogw> shadeofgrey: its more a question of your video card though
[09:10] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U I remember you telling me to use gksudo instead of sudo
[09:10] <n2diy> ! twinveiw | shadeofgrey
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinveiw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <WindsofTime> when creating the buttons on the panel
[09:10] <WindsofTime> That did work
[09:10] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, File a bug
[09:10] <macogw> WindsofTime: it makes it pop up like synaptic does
[09:10] <shadeofgrey> macogw, okay...  well im getting the nvidia quadro 4500 card with 512 meg of video ram and dual dual dvi ports
[09:11] <n2diy> hmm
[09:11] <WindsofTime> macogw, um what?
[09:11] <macogw> WindsofTime: nevermind
[09:11] <WindsofTime> lol
[09:11] <WindsofTime> alright
[09:11] <Durmant> well ill try that out
[09:11] <WindsofTime> Jordan
[09:11] <shadeofgrey> WindsofTime, could you take ten seconds and just hit up my site and tell me if i set up my RSS feed correctly?
[09:11] <macogw> shadeofgrey: *shrug* read what the bog said. im just pointing out that depending on the graphics card itll be easy / hard / impossible.  since its nvidia and not ati, im guessing possible
[09:11] <WindsofTime> shadeofgrey, please give me the link I will take only 10 secs
[09:11] <WindsofTime> no more
[09:11] <macogw> *bot
[09:11] <macogw> darnit
[09:12] <shadeofgrey> WindsofTime, www.thetruthdirective.com
[09:12] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U , Um how do I make this work as a script without using terminal (./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf)
[09:12] <WindsofTime> thats the command line to start my IRC bot
[09:12] <J_5> what is the command to see what processes are running?
[09:12] <n2diy> macgow, the bot is called ubotu
[09:13] <macogw> J_5: ps -e
[09:13] <macogw> n2diy: i know. i just refer to it as the bot
[09:13] <WindsofTime> shadeofgrey, it works fine
[09:13] <J_5> thanks, how do i kill a process?
[09:13] <macogw> n2diy: thats tricky spelling. and i still want to call him ubugtu :P
[09:13] <n2diy> macgow, ok.
[09:13] <shadeofgrey> WindsofTime, okay thank you
[09:13] <afd_> hi! I have several network cards in my computer, how do I choose which one is eth0? I don't have access to the graphic interface...
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> J_5: kill processid
[09:13] <J_5> thanks!
[09:13] <WindsofTime> or simply
[09:14] <n2diy> macgow, ubugtu? Whatz that??
[09:14] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, If you need it to run in a terminal to see the output then do something like: gnome-terminal ./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf
[09:14] <WindsofTime> that would be the command line?
[09:14] <shadeofgrey> WindsofTime, now tell me hiow hard you think it would be to dual boot leopard and ubuntu when my macpro arrives in the mail...  should i be installing the 64 bit version or no?
[09:14] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, If you don't need to see the output then just ./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf should work
[09:14] <shadeofgrey> because last time i tried the 64 bit vcersion app anddriver support was -- uhh -- lacking to a profane degree
[09:15] <macogw> n2diy: there used to be 2 bots
[09:15] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U What I need is to see a terminal open up being that is the only way to communicate with the bot
[09:15] <WindsofTime> shadeofgrey, I am not the one to ask being I do no know
[09:15] <macogw> n2diy: ! went with ubotu and @ went with ubugtu usually, i think
[09:15] <shadeofgrey> okay
[09:15] <WindsofTime> Sorry
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> afd_: you want to select one to be eth0, or you just want to find out which one is eth0?
[09:15] <macogw> n2diy: and if you said bug # then the numbers ubugtu printed out info about it.  a few months ago, they merged the bots
[09:16] <shadeofgrey> has anyboldy here ever set up a dual boot environment of tiger and ubuntu on a macbookpro or a macpro desktop with an nvidia graphics card?
[09:16] <n2diy> macgow, ok.
[09:16] <Durmant> awesome
[09:16] <Durmant> found it
[09:16] <Durmant> next thing
[09:16] <Durmant> for those of you who have laptops
[09:16] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U !!! Possibly this may help!!!
[09:16] <macogw> shadeofgrey: wish i could. i hate tiger
[09:16] <shadeofgrey> i still have time to switch my machine choice to the macbookpro laptop with the nvidia graphics card if that would be easier
[09:16] <macogw> shadeofgrey: there are howtos online
[09:17] <Durmant> in windows I can use the right side of my mouse pad to scroll.....is there a way I can do that in ubuntu?
[09:17] <shadeofgrey> and they would like that a lot more because it costs a lot leess
[09:17] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, There is no wiki page on how to do it, it could be fairly strait foreword or a real pain ( new macs tend to be weird and not work with Ubuntu well )
[09:17] <macogw> Durmant: yes. its in the xorg.conf i think
[09:17] <WindsofTime> I put the command for the button as a normal ./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf  >> Being gnome terminal ./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf wouldn't work >> and the result was this "Failed to execute child process "./eggdrop" (Permission denied)"
[09:17] <macogw> Durmant: if its a synaptics keyboard, the easy way is to install GSynaptics
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> Durmant: it should be active by default.
[09:17] <Durmant> thats what I got
[09:17] <WindsofTime> Perhaps the permissions of the terminal itself are not right? o_O
[09:17] <WindsofTime> Im only guessing at this
[09:17] <w00t> hi guys, is there any wireless adaper that hooks up in floopy drive?
[09:18] <Durmant> can I find that in synaptic?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> w00t: nope.
[09:18] <macogw> w00t: floppy?!
[09:18] <macogw> Durmant: yeah
[09:18] <Durmant> awesome
[09:18] <macogw> w00t: are computers with floppy drives even made nowadays?
[09:18] <w00t> my laptop is.
[09:18] <dice14u> thats weird
[09:18] <macogw> w00t: you can do USB or PCMCIA
[09:19] <dice14u> floppy drives lol
[09:19] <macogw> w00t: i havent seen a laptop with floppy in ages...and those ones had a spare floppy drive that youd shove in after yanking out the cd drive. they werent always there
[09:19] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Might be, might be harder, there is a wiki page for macbook pro's but it is not a good tutotial IMHO and may not be up to date with the newest release
[09:19] <jherrera> w00t woot?
[09:19] <jherrera> hell no
[09:19] <w00t> mmk.
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> I haven't see a floppy disk in ages.
[09:20] <WindsofTime> fyrestrtr, I have over 100+ floppies sitting here..not much to do with them
[09:20] <dice14u> I have one of the original drives where the floppy wasn't in a case
[09:20] <Durmant> hmmmm
[09:20] <dice14u> its litteraly floppy lol
[09:20] <Durmant> I have it installed now.....but I dont know how to open it
[09:20] <WindsofTime> **Testing**
[09:21] <carretto> help!!!! last.fm rhythmbox dont show song and artist name
[09:21] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Looks like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro has no info on the new models ( did a quick search for nvidia, nothing found )
[09:21] <macogw> i have a box 5" and one of 3" floppies
[09:21] <macogw> Durmant: its in the menus
[09:21] <macogw> Durmant: have to edit xorg.conf a little first though
[09:21] <carretto> help!!!! last.fm rhythmbox dont show song and artist name
[09:21] <WindsofTime> T_T...Didn't work
[09:21] <carretto> help!!!! last.fm rhythmbox dont show song and artist name...
[09:21] <Durmant> nope
[09:22] <Durmant> Just checked all the menus at the top
[09:22] <macogw> Durmant: itll tell you what to put in xorg.conf
[09:22] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I have a first gen macbook pro so I can help a little once you get whatever you get ( I try to keep up on Linux on Mactel info )
[09:22] <macogw> Durmant: it should be there...probably in preferences
[09:23] <macogw> Durmant: try right clicking the menu and going to edit menus then enabling the control center. i know it should show in there
[09:23] <bullgard4> fyrestrtr: Right-click on the Gnome_Power_Manager applet. A menu will open. Press on the last item 'Info'. A dialog field will open and tell you the version of your current GNOME_Power_Manager. What version number do you have?
[09:23] <Durmant> Bastards labeled it as touchpad instead of its name lol
[09:23] <macogw> Durmant: oo ok haha
[09:23] <Durmant> what is the command to edit xorg:conf
[09:23] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U , forgive me but this is a new problem.. I have a keyboard here that has media controls (Play,Stop,Forward,VolumeControl,Ect.) Now when I use rythmbox to play my music the mediacontrol buttons do not function except for the MUTE button.. How and can this be fixed?
[09:23] <macogw> Durmant: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:24] <macogw> Durmant: put in whatever the error box told you to
[09:24] <Durmant> yep
[09:24] <Jordan_U> !mediakeys | WindsofTime
[09:24] <ubotu> WindsofTime: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[09:24] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U I am in Xubuntu.. there isn't a System Preferences thing
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> bullgard4: 2.18.4
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> whoops
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> bullgard4: 2.18.2
[09:25] <carretto> help!!!! last.fm rhythmbox dont show song and artist name Pleas
[09:25] <bullgard4> fyrestrtr: Thank you very much for being helpful.
[09:25] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, One bit of advice, no matter what mactel you get follow ( loosly if it is not macbook ) the instruction @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBook
[09:25] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Ah! I found the keyboard preferences..only thing is I do not know the command line the link to each key =\
[09:26] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, IRRC you just click on the action then press the key you want to associate it with
[09:27] <Durmant> Its telling me SHMonfig has to be set to true....but its not telling me where in the file...like under what section
[09:27] <Jordan_U> *IIRC :)
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: try installing hotkeys
[09:27] <WindsofTime> o_O
[09:27] <Durmant> Maybe an option for the input device?
[09:27] <WindsofTime> I had to go to Settings > Keyboard Settings (Xubuntu)
[09:27] <WindsofTime> I dont see nothing about actions
[09:28] <macogw> Durmant: h/o lemme look it up
[09:28] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Try keyboard shortcuts
[09:28] <Durmant> ok :-)
[09:28] <macogw> Durmant: in the section "input device" for the synaptics touchpad
[09:28] <jeffwheeler> It seems Tribe 4 livecd is trying to constantly access the cd; is this normal?
[09:28] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U lemme give you a screen shot
[09:29] <dragon> jeffwheeler: huh?
[09:29] <macogw> jeffwheeler: youre running from the CD
[09:29] <macogw> jeffwheeler: what else do you expect it to do?
[09:29] <jeffwheeler> macogw: I understand, but normally it will take breaks here and there when it is idle and has stuff cached
[09:29] <Jordan_U> jeffwheeler, #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy
[09:29] <jeffwheeler> Jordan_U: thanks
[09:30] <jeffwheeler> macogw: in this case, it has been running constantly for more than 30 minutes
[09:30] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U :  http://windsoftime.servegame.org/pics.html
[09:30] <dragon> jeffwheeler: is it a bug?
[09:30] <dragon> or it's hardware issues.?
[09:30] <Durmant> hmmm....after I enter that option do I have to relog after I save?
[09:30] <jeffwheeler> dragon: not sure, I was curious if anybody else had seen it
[09:30] <Durmant> or should it just work
[09:30] <macogw> jeffwheeler: oh ok i see....i thought maybe just starting up or something...cd drive speed & amount of ram may be factors...
[09:31] <macogw> Durmant: not sure, might need to restart X
[09:31] <Durmant> ok brb
[09:31] <jeffwheeler> macogw: yeah, in the past the live cds have run fine, so I suspect it's a hardware compatibility issue
[09:31] <KenSentMe> Does anybody know what happened to the Ubuntustudio website and where people can download the ubuntustudio release?
[09:31] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, All I know is that in Gnome what you want is in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:31] <dragon> KenSentMe: try google.com/linux ubuntu studio +)
[09:31] <macogw> KenSentMe: you can install ubuntu then install the ubuntu-studio package from within it...
[09:31] <WindsofTime> Then Jordan_U I will switch to GNOME ^^
[09:32] <WindsofTime> Will it still come through into X?
[09:32] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, You mean XFCE ? I am not sure
[09:32] <WindsofTime> no
[09:32] <WindsofTime> Xubuntu
[09:32] <WindsofTime> or that
[09:32] <WindsofTime> XD...Im getting tired myself <_<
[09:32] <WindsofTime> I will try it and see
[09:32] <WindsofTime> :)
[09:32] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Xubuntu is Ubuntu + XFCE
[09:32] <WindsofTime> lol
[09:33] <WindsofTime> indeed
[09:33] <Durmant> nope
[09:33] <Durmant> lets try it under mouse
[09:34] <KenSentMe> macogw, i know, but someone here wants to download the originial ubuntu studio iso
[09:34] <bullgard4> English help wanted: In the upper left, left-click on the applet Gnome_Power_Manager > 'Laptop Battery (78%)'. An information window will appear. The information starts with "Product: Battery Bay". What is the rest 11 lines of text in English?
[09:34] <dragon> KenSentMe: try searching for it on, google.com/linux like i said,
[09:34] <Durmant> nope
[09:34] <OverLord> do you know any softwares for change the office of my ubuntu as screenlets ?
[09:34] <Durmant> still doesnt work
[09:34] <dragon> or KenSentMe sudo apt-get source package
[09:34] <KenSentMe> dragon, doing that, thanks
[09:34] <Durmant> damn
[09:35] <Durmant> It is supposed to be put in as an option right?
[09:35] <dragon> np KenSentMe
[09:36] <WindsofTime> Well..the shortcuts work here in GNOME..not in Xubuntu
[09:36] <macogw> OverLord: change the office of your ubuntu?
[09:36] <WindsofTime> and my screen just went weird
[09:37] <Rowan> i messed up my linux partition so bad :\
[09:37] <OverLord> MACOgw : yes
[09:37] <Rowan> i forgot that i can't see login screen so i put it on auto-login
[09:37] <pvl> how do reset sound settings?
[09:37] <Rowan> and then i took it off
[09:37] <Rowan> now i can't load ubuntu..
[09:37] <Rowan> :\
[09:37] <macogw> OverLord: that sentence doesnt make any sense
[09:37] <OverLord> it's normally i'm french lol
[09:38] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, Looks like it's down, try http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:T4A-TeqrVXAJ:ubuntustudio.org/downloads+ubuntu+studio&hl=en&strip=1 for links to mirrors
[09:38] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, thanks
[09:38] <OverLord> macogw, i would like to change, the aspect of my ubuntu, do you see what i want ?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, np
[09:38] <pvl> does any1 know how to reset alsa settings?
[09:39] <macogw> OverLord: um....do mean you want to change the theme?
[09:39] <OverLord> Yes maco
[09:39] <macogw> OverLord: system > preferences > theme
[09:39] <OverLord> ..
[09:39] <garryFre> Do you mean you want office apps to all open in separate windows instead of one window with tabs?
[09:40] <OverLord> yes but there are another for change all my office ?
[09:40] <macogw> OverLord: you can go to gnome-looks.org and download themes (as .tar.gz files) then drag n drop them into the theme picker
[09:40] <OverLord> ok cool
[09:40] <macogw> OverLord: you mean the icon theme for open office?
[09:40] <OverLord> yes maco
[09:40] <macogw> OverLord: ooooo
[09:40] <garryFre> pvl, , yep alsamixer to set it, exit it then alsactl store
[09:40] <Durmant> boo
[09:40] <Jordan_U> Is there a way to make certain apps start up in certain workspaces ?
[09:40] <ryo> K, first question, anyone here familiar with Gutsy?
[09:41] <Shaye> guys after installing ubuntu i can play mp3s but the quality is terrible, do u have any idea what can be done to fix this? I mean, I can hear sound but as mentioned, the quality is very low... using gigabytes on board sound card.
[09:41] <Flannel> ryo: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support, thanks
[09:41] <carretto> somebody use rhythmbox?
[09:41] <ryo> k, thanks
[09:41] <macogw> OverLord: um...well you can pick your icon theme in the theme setting.  i think OOo's theme will change too
[09:41] <LiberCogito> !gutsy | ryo
[09:41] <ubotu> ryo: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <OverLord> ok maco thanks for you help
[09:41] <macogw> Jordan_U: devils pie
[09:41] <pvl> garryFre may califry a bit more please?
[09:42] <Yuiop_Laptop> balls and weiners
[09:42] <garryFre> pvl can try ye need to do it in a terminal window sudo alsamixer and then when you exit, sudo alsactl store
[09:43] <macogw> !ops Yuiop_Laptop is being vulgar
[09:43] <pvl> garryfre oh i see it now ty
[09:43] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U why would my screen warp all of a sudden when I was using GNOME??
[09:43] <garryFre> pvl welcome
[09:43] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Define warp or post a screenshot
[09:43] <macogw> !ops | Yuiop_Laptop is being vulgar
[09:43] <ubotu> Yuiop_Laptop is being vulgar: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[09:43] <Yuiop_Laptop> macogw: im guessing you have not seen the movie
[09:44] <macogw> its a childsafe channel dude
[09:44] <Yuiop_Laptop> my bad
[09:44] <Myrtti> Yuiop_Laptop: try to behave? watch your language or I'll have to step in and act like an op
[09:44] <gordonjcp> um
[09:44] <gordonjcp> what did Yuiop_Laptop say?
[09:44] <kanedaddy> good
[09:44] <macogw> unless youre talking about sports and daschunds...shhh
[09:45] <Yuiop_Laptop> gordonjcp: i said balls and weiners

[09:45] <garryFre> lol
[09:45] <EvilDin> hi, how could i do bridge between two lan network cards eth1 and eth2
[09:45] <Myrtti> and please folks, keep the offtopic out of here
[09:45] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[09:45] <Shaye> guys after installing ubuntu i can play mp3s but the quality is terrible, do u have any idea what can be done to fix this? I mean, I can hear sound but as mentioned, the quality is very low... using gigabytes on board sound card.
[09:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:45] <gordonjcp> how is that vulgar?
[09:45] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U the screen sections off into 4, the 2 top ones show black accented with rainbow like lines.. the colors of the bottom two have changed
[09:45] <gordonjcp> yeah, lets -> offtopic
[09:45] <Yuiop_Laptop> i dunno lol that dude just freaked
[09:45] <Jordan_U> immature, not vulgar, not necessary though
[09:45] <garryFre> under either system/admin or preferences you should find some program that allows you to choose the soundcard to use.
[09:46] <Myrtti> this is the support channel so let's keep it that way, please
[09:46] <macogw> gordonjcp: certain body parts dont fall in the "childsafe" category of vocabulary
[09:46] <gordonjcp> macogw: like what?
[09:46] <Yuiop_Laptop> omg..its from that new movie i now pronounce you chuck and larry
[09:46] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Strange, can you take a screenshot?
[09:46] <Yuiop_Laptop> adam sandler answers the phones like that
[09:47] <macogw> gordonjcp: you should be able to figure out what body parts are inappropriate to discuss around children
[09:47] <Yuiop_Laptop> i already apologized
[09:47] <macogw> Yuiop_Laptop: and that movie not rated G, is it?
[09:47] <gordonjcp> macogw: yeah, but I don't get the reference
[09:47] <Yuiop_Laptop> yeah its rated pg-13
[09:47] <gordonjcp> macogw: he didn't actually mention body parts, I don't think
[09:47] <Yuiop_Laptop> and i really doubt anyone in here is under 13
[09:47] <macogw> gordonjcp: he named 2 of them which are found on males and not on us
[09:47] <gordonjcp> macogw: I don't understand
[09:47] <Yuiop_Laptop> weiners = hotdogs? and balls= toys?
[09:47] <pvl> garryfre i need a bit more help, through th terminal i went into the asla mixer thing, and for microphone theres no setting, u cant change it. thats really all my problem is
[09:47] <gordonjcp> well, I see where you might get balls there
[09:47] <Yuiop_Laptop> i have neither on my body
[09:48] <gordonjcp> you people are *weird*
[09:48] <gordonjcp> seriously seriously weird
[09:48] <Yuiop_Laptop> loool
[09:48] <Myrtti> ok folks, LETS MOVE ON
[09:48] <macogw> hah ok
[09:48] <gordonjcp> indeed
[09:48] <Myrtti> signal/noise ratio is too high
[09:49] <Yuiop_Laptop> garryFre: are you trying to get sound on a toshiba laptop by chance
[09:49] <garryFre> pvl Hmm, I think you have to hit arrow keys to highlight your channels, were it say MM hit space bar or it might be the zero key , then up arrow key to increase volume. Once that's done you use alsactl store to save the changes
[09:49] <tictoc> go to #politics if you want a decent debate on anhything
[09:49] <cafuego> tictoc: Are you implying decent debates can be had on irc?
[09:49] <raz00m> http://antigop-k4.narod.ru/
[09:49] <pvl> garryfre i think that worked, not sure ima check
[09:49] <garryFre> Arging with the moderator is like kicking cactus.
[09:50] <sruthi> HIIIIIIIIIII
[09:50] <garryFre> pvl kmix might be easier
[09:50] <pvl> garrfre that an app?
[09:50] <terapicodave> is there an easy app out there to play matroska files?
[09:51] <garryFre> pvl yep, a command line app in Sabayon Linux, I think its part of kde.
[09:51] <nomin> does ext3 usually resize ok without losing any data?
[09:51] <dragon> terapicodave: matroska?
[09:51] <gordonjcp> nomin: usually, yes
[09:51] <dragon> what the hell is that?
[09:51] <faileas> nomin: in my experience ya
[09:51] <tictoc> or.. is there an easy build o nix that doesnt want some mental command to boot installm on my laptop ?
[09:51] <gordonjcp> nomin: unless you resize it smaller than the bit with data on
[09:52] <faileas> dragon: a codec? :)
[09:52] <dragon> is it?
[09:52] <nomin> gordonjcp: ok, because I'm about to increase the size of it.
[09:52] <gordonjcp> nomin: ;-)
[09:52] <gordonjcp> that works just great
[09:53] <adaptr> dragon actually, it's a container format for streaming media
[09:54] <nomin> gordonjcp: uh-oh.  "resize2fs failed".  I'm using the mandriva one live cd.
[09:54] <terapicodave> i missed it, did someone haev a good app for matroska?
[09:54] <macogw> terapicodave: vlc
[09:54] <macogw> terapicodave: i think
[09:54] <faileas> yeah
[09:54] <terapicodave> vlc crashes for me when i try
[09:55] <gordonjcp> nomin: hrm, error message?
[09:55] <terapicodave> have 0.8.6 though...not sure if a newer version is needed
[09:55] <dragon1711> I love Ubuntu as much as I hate it!!!!!!
[09:55] <nomin> gordonjcp: yes.
[09:55] <EvilDin> i have 3 cards, one is access to internet other two should work like switch in same subnet, how could i do that ?
[09:55] <carretto> I... I need a rhythmbox 0.11 for feisty
[09:55] <nomin> gordonjcp: looks like it didn't do anything.  I'm thinking that the program is buggy on this live cd.
[09:56] <dragon1711> sound wont work damn
[09:56] <IndyGunFreak> carretto: why?..
[09:56] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U I cannot
[09:56] <dragon1711> cos modem thinks of itself as snd
[09:56] <dragon1711> :)
[09:56] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Its hard to see what it is doing..so I cannot even see where it is saving it =\
[09:57] <WindsofTime> It only did it once
[09:57] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Try hitting print screen then return, it should save it to your desktop
[09:57] <kraut> moin
[09:57] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U : Tell me, what can I lose if anything if I revert back to just using GNOME and leaving XCFE alone?
[09:58] <NeTcOwBoy> hey ppl
[09:58] <NeTcOwBoy> am new
[09:58] <dragon1711> techguys say "have fun".... well I do have a lot of fun (more then a week of fucking around modem and sound arguing for being sound)
[09:58] <NeTcOwBoy> AM downloadng Ubuntu nw tll me about it
[09:58] <pvl> argh my sound recorder wont load bc my settings are invalid
[09:58] <WindsofTime> dragon1711 please do not cus