[05:57] <lupine_85> AngryElf: there aren't any repos like this for dapper AFAIK :/
[05:57] <ThePub> kelvie: 2.0 is part of edgy
[05:57] <lupine_85> oops... add another sudo to that ln
[05:57] <kelvie> ThePub: I realize this now :x
[05:57] <yuv656> DragonRomer`: no problem, burn that cd correctly to check out linux, don't give up, it's worth it :)
[05:57] <kitche> kelvie: it's also in dapper-backports
[05:57] <xipietotec> If anyone is familiar with Moblock I could seriously use some help
[05:57] <ThePub> karthik: so when you browse to the location choose "edit as administrator"
[05:57] <DragonRomer`> yuv656 ok :)
[05:57] <kelvie> heh :p
[05:57] <gotit> hm, can it be installed and tested on it
[05:57] <kelvie> kitche: what is backports? :o
[05:58] <cratel> what package is the font "courier new" in?
[05:58] <kelvie> I do use edgy now btw
[05:58] <karthik> ThePub...tell me clearly...i m newbie
[05:58] <kitche> kelvie: it's updated packages for dapper they just made them work with dapper from edgy
[05:58] <kelvie> kitche: ah
[05:58] <cablesm102> karthik, put sudo before the command you wish to run as root
[05:58] <vanberge> would anybody be able to tell me - does easyubuntu work on 6.10 ?  :-)  thanks in advance
[05:58] <cablesm102> karthik, it will then ask for your password, and run the command as root
[05:58] <kitche> !easyubuntu|vanberge
[05:58] <ubotu> vanberge: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:59] <ThePub> karthik: idk how clearer I can be...  O/o  use konq/nautilus to go to the location that holds your file, right-click and click "edit as administrator"...
[05:59] <cablesm102> karthik, you can start GUI programs like this: "sudo firefox" for example.
[05:59] <thoreauputic> vanberge: preferably, don't use easy ubuntu - use the wiki on restricted formats
[05:59] <karthik> oh..ok
[05:59] <cablesm102> ThePub, that isn't there by default
[05:59] <vanberge> thoreauputic, tyvm...
[05:59] <gotit> how do i tell ubuntu to search for plug and play devices from terminal
[05:59] <thoreauputic> !restricted | vanberge
[05:59] <ubotu> vanberge: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:59] <uMISTA> when i enter sudo mv /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc~; ln  -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 /usr/bin/gcc i get a permission denied
[05:59] <belfegor> hello
[05:59] <xipietotec> If anyone is familiar with Moblock I could seriously use some help
[05:59] <ThePub> cablesm102: oh, it isn't?  oops.. how'd I add it then?  I hate misinformation O.o
[05:59] <belfegor> how can i instal bet365 poker on ubuntu?
[06:00] <kitche> uMISTA: you forgot the second sudo
[06:00] <cablesm102> ThePub, I installed a script in Nautilus to get that.
[06:00] <belfegor> can i instal it?
[06:01] <karthik> ThePub.....i cannot  find "edit as administartor"
[06:01] <lardarse> question: is there any way of determining the exit status of a program that has just run ?
[06:01] <cablesm102> karthik, he was incorrect about that command
[06:01] <kitche>  /quit
[06:01] <kitche> bah stupid space
[06:01] <lardarse> heh
[06:02] <karthik> i want permissions to get added to my user.....i dont wanna use sudo.......
[06:02] <uMISTA> so wheres the second sudo go?
[06:02] <cablesm102> karthik, open a command prompt, and put in "gksudo gedit FILENAME" (except obviously replacing FILENAME with the path of the file you want to edit)
[06:02] <ThePub> cablesm102: well, no.. clearly not since I have it and have a fairly stock installation :)
[06:02] <cablesm102> ThePub, I can't find it, and neither can karthik
[06:02] <karthik> ok
[06:02] <n30n> karthik: sudo -s?
[06:02] <ThePub> I know what has it.  KDE :)
[06:02] <xipietotec> If anyone is familiar with Moblock I could seriously use some help
[06:03] <cablesm102> karthik, you can't add permissions to your account. It will ask you for a password whenever you want to do anything as an administrator. To have it otherwise would be a huge security risk.
[06:03] <karthik> ok
[06:03] <cablesm102> karthik, that was one of the biggest flaws in windows.
[06:03] <belfegor> so can u tell me please?what sould i do with bet365?is working on ubuntu?
[06:03] <karthik> i accept that
[06:04] <cablesm102> karthik, you can install a script to add "edit as root" to your right-click menu
[06:04] <cablesm102> not sure how i did it though
[06:04] <ThePub> karthik: KDE has the command, and since you're here you're using Gnome (like me actually).  My applogies, too much flipping around GUIs recently.  Get confused :)
[06:04] <cablesm102> I'll try to dig up the instructions
[06:04] <MrFoobar> does anyone know when a .deb package for Java 1.6 is going to be released?
[06:04] <n30n> cablesm102: In my opinion windows itself was the flaw
[06:05] <DragonRomer`> yuv656 i burnt it correctley but it still goes to DRDOS
[06:05] <lupine_85> uMISTA: before ln
[06:05] <catsy> how do u compile your own kernel
[06:05] <karthik> but how to write a script for that n add to ur menu......i m a new-bie
[06:05] <cablesm102> DragonRomer, are you trying to boot from a CD?
[06:05] <DragonRomer`> cablesm102 yes
[06:05] <cablesm102> karthik, I'm finding it
[06:05] <lupine_85> but after ;
[06:05] <cablesm102> DragonRomer, check your BIOS settings to see the boot order.
[06:06] <DragonRomer`> cablesm102 the boot order is correct, the cdrom is the only thing booting
[06:06] <lupine_85> uMISTA: to get back to the original... sudo rm /usr/bin/gcc; sudo mv /usr/bin/gcc~ /usr/bin/gcc
[06:06] <cablesm102> oohhhh. So nothing else is working, JUST the CD?
[06:06] <VMT2007> !kernel
[06:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:06] <yuv656> DragonRomer`: how did you burn it this time?
[06:06] <DragonRomer`> yuv656 i burnt the iso into a bootable disc in nero express
[06:06] <ThePub> cablesm102: you can easily create such a command using nautilus actions btw.
[06:07] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: you need to burn as an image ( a literal image)
[06:07] <yuv656> DragonRomer`: did you burn the iso file to the cd, or did you burn it as an image?
[06:07] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic oh.... grr im using so many cds lol
[06:07] <yuv656> DragonRomer`: in nero, there should be an option Burn image to disc
[06:07] <cablesm102> karthik, you need to first go to the folder ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[06:07] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: the DRDoS thing is perhaps nero's way of making the cd bootable ( guessing)
[06:07] <DragonRomer`> yuv656 yeh i just burnt it onto a bootable disc, ill go try as an image now
[06:07] <karthik> wait..
[06:07] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: you don't need that - just a pure image
[06:07] <yuv656> DragonRomer`: you don't have to go to bootable disc, if you burn the image it will be bootable
[06:08] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic ok, thanks
[06:08] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: the boot code is in the CD image
[06:08] <DragonRomer`> yuv656thanks :)
[06:08] <thoreauputic> built in :)
[06:08] <uMISTA> so i tryed to make a the symlink but i get symlink but i get this error! mv: cannot stat `/usr/bin/gcc': No such file or directory
[06:08] <minerale_> I am having trouble signing up on ubuntuforums (mail sender broken? ) could someone download this attachment for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269305
[06:08] <cablesm102> DragonRomer, are you sure you burned it as an image and not as a file?
[06:08] <missing> hello people!!
[06:09] <karthik> how can i go to that folder
[06:09] <karthik> its not found
[06:09] <thoreauputic> cablesm102: he didn't - he tried to make it a bootable CD ( not the right choice)
[06:09] <xipietotec> If anyone is familiar with Moblock I could seriously use some help
[06:09] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic problem, when i try to burn it using nero it tells me its the wrong type of disc now, it wants a cd not a dvd?
[06:09] <ThePub> isn't the cd already bootable?  just burn the raw iso to the disk and be done with it, isn't it?
[06:09] <missing> cablesm102: burn your image with imgburn
[06:09] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: hang on a minute - I 'll try to find a link for an ISO burner for you
[06:09] <cablesm102> missing, I'm not having the problem.
[06:10] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic ok thanks
[06:10] <missing> hehehe
[06:10] <missing> good
[06:10] <yuv656> minerale_: truecrypt-4.2a-build.tar.gz ?
[06:10] <vanberge> if i have an ntfs drive attached as a slave, shouldnt ubuntu mount that by default?  :-(
[06:10] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[06:10] <cablesm102> karthik, I've got a script you can use to edit something as administrator easily
[06:11] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: I don't use windows, but that should do it
[06:11] <cablesm102> karthik, still there?
[06:11] <missing> vanberge: no it doest u have to add it
[06:11] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic thankys :)
[06:11] <thoreauputic> :) yw
[06:11] <minerale_> yuv656: yeah
[06:11] <missing> vanberge: but its really easy to add
[06:11] <vanberge> missing, i was just about to ask how hard it was...  :-)
[06:11] <karthik> yes i m there cable
[06:11] <Cyber_Stalker> what programming language would u guys suggest i learn
[06:11] <missing> vanberge: its really easy
[06:11] <karthik> tell me the steps
[06:12] <missing> vanberge: let me walk you along
[06:12] <Cyber_Stalker> i know some java but im bored of it :/
[06:12] <yuv656> minerale_: can't you download attachments unless you are logged in?
[06:12] <ThePub> Cyber_Stalker: anyone you can :)
[06:12] <lupine_85> Cyber_Stalker: C :)
[06:12] <rapid> Cyber_Stalker, C
[06:12] <minerale> yuv656: nope
[06:12] <missing> vanberge: how new are u to linux?
[06:12] <vanberge> missing, tyvm... its very appreciated
[06:12] <Cyber_Stalker> c is good?
[06:12] <yuv656> minerale_: ok hang on
[06:12] <cablesm102> karthik, go to the private chat
[06:12] <Cyber_Stalker> i could use it to create an irc bot ?
[06:12] <missing> its no problem
[06:12] <vanberge> missing, pretty familiar.  used off/on for a few years now
[06:12] <Cyber_Stalker> :P
[06:12] <missing> kewl
[06:12] <rapid> Cyber_Stalker, perl, bash, php, c
[06:12] <rapid> lol
[06:12] <MrFoobar> I would suggest python if you're not too hardcore into programming, C/C++ otherwise
[06:12] <missing> so u wanna write to the drive right?
[06:12] <ThePub> Cyber_Stalker: C is the basis of any low-level programming.  it's pretty much the model of most "c like" languages.  C/C++ are the core of most programming projects.
[06:13] <vanberge> missing, not necessarily... want to copy all my files off of there.  read acces is fine
[06:13] <Cyber_Stalker> ok ThePub but does it have a good range of functions?
[06:13] <missing> if u wanna write there is a ntfs-3g driver u can install
[06:13] <ThePub> Cyber_Stalker: If you want to learn a fun language, check out Groovy.  All the power of Python, Perl and Ruby wrapped onto the JVM :)
[06:13] <Cyber_Stalker> easy to use, portable
[06:13] <missing> do u have sata or atapi drives
[06:13] <kuto> how do i recover my grub install if i reinstall windows in my boot partition?
[06:13] <vanberge> atapi
[06:14] <kuto> anyone pls
[06:14] <vanberge> kuto, you want grub to go away?
[06:14] <missing> kuto: look up wingrub
[06:14] <ThePub> kuto: boot using the live cd and re-run grub from the installed linux partition and choose to install it
[06:14] <missing> kuto: its really easy u can boot linux from microsofts boot loader
[06:14] <missing> okay well atapi
[06:15] <vanberge> 10.4
[06:15] <kuto> vanberge: no i have windows and ubuntu installed in a single HDD and there is something wrong with my windows install right now. how doi reinstall grub
[06:15] <missing> 1st u need to find out what partition it is
[06:15] <missing> the way u do that is with fdisk
[06:15] <ThePub> kuto: you would also probably need to add a boot entry to /boot/grub/menu.lst for your windows partition.
[06:15] <yuv656> minerale_: uploading..
[06:15] <vanberge> fdisk -l ? missing
[06:15] <kuto> ThePub: do i need to mount my linux partition chroot to it and run grub?
[06:16] <vanberge> missing, got it... /dev/hdb1
[06:16] <ThePub> kuto: man grub, useful :)
[06:16] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic hmm that still dosnt want to use my dvd
[06:16] <missing> can  we go private im sorry
[06:16] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic this is rediculous, how can i not burn an image to a dvd?
[06:16] <arrenlex> kuto: If I understand your problem correctly, you need to mount your system, chroot into it, mount /proc, and then grub-install.
[06:16] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: are you burning a DVD? Apparently doing that on windows is problematic?
[06:17] <missing> can we go private?
[06:17] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: ie. as an iso
[06:17] <yuv656> DragonRomer`: don't you have a cd that you can burn it to?
[06:17] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: on linux it's trivial...
[06:17] <DragonRomer`> yuv656 no i dont
[06:17] <missing> okay now go edit your /etc/fstab under root
[06:17] <DragonRomer`> yuv656 i dont have a floppy drive either
[06:17] <vanberge> missing,  yeah sure
[06:17] <missing> okay
[06:18] <missing> its better for me i have kids going crazy here
[06:18] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: you would be better to use a CD ISO to install - then you can burn the full DVD if you wish from linux
[06:18] <vanberge> lol... no prob
[06:18] <yuv656> minerale_/minerale: http://www.chweb.net/downloads/truecrypt-4.2a-build.tar.gz
[06:18] <VMT2007> hi guyz how do i compil gentoo.
[06:18] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic i dont have a cd
[06:18] <VMT2007> and bored.
[06:18] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: it seems that windows burning apps are crippled in this respect... ( I don't know)
[06:18] <minerale> thank you very much, yuv656
[06:19] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: you mean you don't have a blank  Cd to burn to?
[06:19] <friedtofu> ok -.- question: i have shared folders, every time i try to DELETE the shared folders from the "System > Administration > Shared Folders" they refresh... why? -.- ....
[06:19] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic no i dont
[06:19] <amal029> I wanted to know why ubuntu live CD requires 256MB of ram to boot
[06:19] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: is your download a CD image or a DVD image?
[06:19] <friedtofu> amal029: i believe its the graphics, and they also store some files onto the RAM
[06:20] <friedtofu> *temporarily use RAM as diskspace
[06:20] <amal029> it becomes too much since I could not load Ubuntu on a whole lot of my computers
[06:20] <minerale> amal029: it has to use half of that memory as a `fake` hard drive
[06:20] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic err its an iso
[06:20] <mindflow> Hi. Anybody here who can help a linux noob fix a broken dependency?
[06:20] <n30n> friedtofu: Are they located on the system you used to delete them? Or a remote one
[06:21] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: if it's a CD ~700MB then go get yourself some cheap CD R blanks
[06:21] <amal029> I switched to simply MEPIS it has the same graphics as ubuntu but only needs 64MB of ram
[06:21] <arrenlex> mindflow: Could you be more specific? Are you getting an error message? What program? What package? Are you installing from source?
[06:21] <friedtofu> n30n: yeah, i'm on the system i used to delete it: it keeps refreshing after i delete it
[06:21] <friedtofu> *as in, delete, exit, go back to window, and its back there again!
[06:21] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic how much do they cost?
[06:21] <friedtofu> amal029: i think they have ubuntu less graphic intense on their main site?...
[06:22] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: you can get a stack of them for about $10 even in a post office ( i see you are in Oz)
[06:22] <ubox> hey all
[06:22] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic aside frome being slightley scared that you knew im from aus, thanks
[06:22] <n30n> friedtofu: How are you going about trying to delete them.
[06:22] <yuv656> DragonRomer`: Forestville?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: it's in your /whois ")
[06:22] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`:  /whois DragonRomer`
[06:23] <ubox> :D
[06:23] <False_Courage><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:23] <yuv656> Address: <IP_ADDRESS> | MOORE1-1.gex.ncable.net.au | Australia (AU) | Forestville, 02 | Latitude: -33.7668, Longitude: 151.20831
[06:23] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic ah lol
[06:23] <n30n> friedtofu: You should do it from the terminal so it will give you error output
[06:23] <vanberge> missing i think i pm'ed u... not sure.  :-P
[06:23] <thoreauputic> :D
[06:23] <ValMarko> When using a usb modem are there more chances to intrusions ot virus?
[06:23] <friedtofu> n30n: i'm still a newb... guide me, haha - commands?
[06:23] <lubix> Valmarko. that is absurd
[06:23] <n30n> friedtofu: Is it a folder or a file
[06:23] <friedtofu> folder
[06:24] <lupine_85> ValMarko: not really. You're more likely to be exploited though, although ubuntu is pretty good against that sort of thing
[06:24] <DragonRomer`> oh well thanks for your help guys, ill go buy a disk
[06:24] <missing> did u get it ?
[06:24] <DragonRomer`> i hope it works this time :(
[06:24] <lupine_85> if you're using a USB modem, I'd suggest running a firewall (like iptables - GUI frontend firestarter) just to be safwe
[06:24] <lupine_85> safe*
[06:24] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: use the burner I linked for you
[06:25] <vanberge> missing, i think so... if you mean /dev/hdb1 then yes
[06:25] <DragonRomer`> thoreauputic yep
[06:25] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: should work fine
[06:25] <ValMarko> That means that even I'm using usb port for comunications I have no reasons to be worried?
[06:25] <friedtofu> n30n: i'm trying to remove a folder i shared... and it doesnt delete from the "System > Administration > Shared Folders" menu....
[06:25] <missing> kewll
[06:25] <yuv656> DragonRomer`: you could always order some cds from shipit ;-p
[06:25] <missing> but u need to add a folder to the /media
[06:25] <thoreauputic> DragonRomer`: once you have Ububntu installed iso burning will be a breeze - just right click the ISO and hit burn :)
[06:26] <missing> so u can mount windows there
[06:26] <ValMarko> tanks
[06:26] <thoreauputic> gah Ubuntu ( /me can't type)
[06:26] <vanberge> ok.  just create an empty folder in root then?
[06:26] <n30n> friedtofu: ohhhhh go to properties of the folder you are trying to delete
[06:27] <n30n> friedtofu: somewhere in there it should give you the file location/source
[06:27] <missing> so for example if your mount point is /media/windows
[06:27] <missing> yes
[06:27] <vanberge> missing, i created /ntfs
[06:27] <missing> kewl
[06:27] <missing> okay
[06:27] <missing> now we need to edit the /etc/fstab with sudo
[06:28] <missing> and put this at the end of you fstab
[06:28] <friedtofu> n30n: oh, i'm just trying to remove it from being Shared.... not deleting the whole thing
[06:28] <n30n> friedtofu: indeed.
[06:28] <mindflow> Can anybody help me resolve this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:28] <mindflow>   libfontconfig1: Depends: fontconfig-config (= 2.3.2-7ubuntu2) but 2.4.2-1 is installed ?
[06:28] <n30n> friedtofu: it's a learning experience, my friend.
[06:28] <friedtofu> n30n: haha, yeah ... i was just trying to share between two computers...
[06:28] <lupine_85> mindflow: where it has = it means it "muist" have that version installed
[06:29] <n30n> friedtofu: did it not work out?
[06:29] <missing> /dev/hdb1 /media/ntfs ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[06:29] <lupine_85> so you can override it if you like with --force-deps (bad idea), or you can install the requested version with sudo apt-get install fontconfig-config=2.3.2-7ubuntu2
[06:29] <mindflow> lupine: I can understand that but I don't want to downgrade my own system. God knows what happend
[06:29] <missing> add this to you fstab
[06:29] <missing> /dev/hdb1 /media/ntfs ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[06:29] <_goofy_> how do i edit what options a
[06:29] <n30n> friedtofu: sometimes windows and linux don't like to share with eachother at first
[06:30] <missing> then after u do that run this command as root
[06:30] <missing> mount -as
[06:30] <missing> mount -a
[06:30] <mindflow> lupine: Can I have several versions in paralel?
[06:30] <friedtofu> n30n: i was trying to share linux with linux o.O
[06:30] <vanberge> i'd rather do the command... i only need to do it once!  :-)
[06:30] <uMISTA> is there QEMU chat rooms?
[06:30] <lupine_85> mindflow: probably not
[06:30] <missing> ohh
[06:30] <snax> can someone remind me how you set up a dpkg file redirect so that a file from a package gets installed somewhere else/with a different name (usually so you can write your own wrapper script to use the redirected copy)
[06:30] <friedtofu> n30n: well its sharing now... but i needa know how to remove the shared folders afterwards.... :/
[06:30] <Jiraiya> Y a un francais svp
[06:30] <Jiraiya> ?
[06:30] <missing> the command
[06:30] <Jiraiya> J'ai un probleme
[06:30] <arrenlex> !fr | Jiraiya
[06:30] <ubotu> Jiraiya: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:30] <n30n> friedtofu: Oh, nvm. Most people roll in here with windows-linux networking probs
[06:30] <missing> i know the command for BSD i hope its the same for linux
[06:30] <Jiraiya> arrenlex
[06:31] <Jiraiya> Stp
[06:31] <Jiraiya> tu peux m aid
[06:31] <Jiraiya> J'ai etait banni de ubuntu-fr
[06:31] <thoreauputic> Jiraiya: this is an english channel
[06:31] <Jiraiya> Parce que j'ai dis oi!
[06:31] <n30n> friedtofu: find the physical location of the file, not the vertial veron of it in the shared folders manager
[06:31] <mindflow> lupine: The trouble started when I tried to install a debian package in ubuntu. Can I somehow undo that without reinstalling my whole system?
[06:31] <Jiraiya> y a un gros probeme
[06:31] <missing> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/ntfs/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[06:31] <Jiraiya> je sais
[06:31] <missing> its that command there
[06:31] <cablesm102> mindflow, just uninstall the package through synaptic.
[06:31] <nzhomie> yeah
[06:31] <ubox> is thr a way to increase adsl bandwdith?
[06:32] <missing> in BSD its a little diferent
[06:32] <missing> but thats the linux command
[06:32] <arrenlex> Jiraiya: Non, je ne parle pas francais, pardonnez-moi :( Je ne peux pas t'aide. Allez a #ubuntu-fr pour les hommes qui parle francais, svp.
[06:32] <_goofy_> how do i edit what options are shown after the quit applit is clicked?
[06:32] <mindflow> cable: Will that not break my system further?
[06:32] <nzhomie> talk to your isp about adsl bandwith
[06:32] <vanberge> missing, so, "mount -a /dev/hdb1 /ntfs"
[06:32] <missing> no
[06:32] <missing> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/ntfs/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[06:32] <nzhomie> no it will just un install the app that you installed
[06:32] <nzhomie> uninstall *
[06:32] <ubox> no i mean from my place
[06:32] <mindflow> ok, I will give it a try
[06:32] <missing> venberge: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/ntfs/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[06:33] <nzhomie> ubox : i think you can only get more bandwith if you talk to your isp
[06:34] <ubox> oh ok
[06:34] <_goofy_> how do i edit what options are shown after the quit applit is clicked?
[06:34] <SilentDis> nzhomie:  if all your neighbors had wi-fi, and you setup a box with a bunch of wifi cards, and then aggrigated them... ;)
[06:34] <missing> vanberge: did it work?
[06:35] <vanberge> missing, tyvm... yes it did!  i am copying all my files over now...  :-)
[06:35] <nzhomie> silent dis : ??????
[06:35] <missing> kewl
[06:35] <missing> its no prolem!!
[06:36] <missing> my pleasure
[06:36] <elfreakz> my ubuntu 6.06 making 2 type of sound ever few minute.. what sound is that? like ting tong sound...
[06:36] <SilentDis> nzhomie:  sorry, saw you comment about getting more bandwidth.  I was just being goofy :)
[06:36] <nzhomie> a right
[06:36] <n30n> elfreakz: do you know if it is from the speakers or the systems motherboard
[06:36] <nzhomie> i was just explaining to ubox on how to get more bandwith
[06:37] <Jiraiya> Salut svp c'est vraiment important un francais svp
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> !fr
[06:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:37] <n30n> elfreakz: additionally, if you turn the speakers off, does this sound subside?
[06:37] <thoreauputic> Jiraiya: you're a slow learner aren't you ?
[06:37] <SilentDis> nzhomie:  my method works too... just takes a lot of work and is not... umm... above-board.  lol
[06:37] <Jiraiya> me bann pour rien
[06:37] <Jiraiya> j sais pas parler francais
[06:38] <friedtofu> n30n: well.. i found the real folder, i click properties, i hit "do not share" i hit ok, and its still sharing
[06:38] <elfreakz> n30n, if i turn off the speaker there's no sound
[06:38] <TiG4> *** Does anyone know if it is possible to simply Run a game through Cedega without actually "Installing" it
[06:38] <SilentDis> don't smite me!
[06:38] <thoreauputic> :D
[06:38] <missing> Tiga: well it has been know to work i did it with zuma
[06:39] <thoreauputic> SilenceGold: I just gaged him - I don't like to gag because of langage, but it creates noise
[06:39] <SilentDis> TiG4:  I'm a cedega user myself.  from what I can tell, no, it isn't.  the way it uses Wine means it needs to put files somewhere.
[06:39] <thoreauputic> *gagged
[06:39] <SilentDis> TiG4:  it's just the way they wrote the scripts
[06:39] <GaiaX11> Could anyone test this for me: wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[06:39] <TiG4> SilentDis, whenever i try to install the game. and it asks for the next cd, cedega wont recognize the next cd
[06:39] <fyrestrtr> TiG4: how would you get the files onto your machine?
[06:40] <TiG4> fyrestrtr, I already have them on from my windows partition
[06:40] <elfreakz> n30n, u there?
[06:40] <n30n> elfreak: hold on
[06:40] <GaiaX11> It is the public key for PLF repositories, but here i get a 404 error
[06:40] <missing> anyone else need help?
[06:40] <elfreakz> ok
[06:40] <missing> im bored
[06:41] <SilentDis> TiG4:  what game?  also, this probably isn't the best room for this... but it looks a little slow, so unless thoreauputic has objections (please don't smite me!)  we'll continue :)
[06:41] <n30n> elfreakz: you could try upgrading to 6.1
[06:41] <n30n> elfreakz: Or turn off system sound.
[06:41] <_goofy_> how do i edit what options are shown after the quit applit is clicked?
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> GaiaX11: its 404 here also.
[06:41] <missing> no idea
[06:41] <TiG4> SilentDis, It's FSOne
[06:41] <n30n> elfreakz: Have you restarted your system since this problem began?
[06:41] <elfreakz> n30n, i already unchecked PLAY SYSTEM SOUND in sound preference
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> !plf | GaiaX11, fyrestrtr
[06:41] <ubotu> GaiaX11, fyrestrtr: PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[06:41] <SilentDis> TiG4:  FSOne?  is it in the transgaming db?
[06:41] <elfreakz> n30n, yes already restarted
[06:41] <TiG4> SilentDis, Nope. :)
[06:42] <missing> goofy i think thats a kernel thing since i recompiled mines it doest show any ubuntu things witch is better for me
[06:42] <n30n> elfreakz: It is possible that there is a sound card error, and upgrading to 6.10 would solve this error.
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: oh thanks, I didn't even know what it was.
[06:42] <elfreakz> n30n, how do i upgrade?
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> TiG4: you might have better luck at #winehq -- maybe someone knows a workaround.
[06:43] <GaiaX11> !seveas
[06:43] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:43] <elfreakz> n30n, anything like auto upgrade like in xp windows update?
[06:43] <SilentDis> TiG4:  I was about to suggest the same thing, a wine group hehe.  i've never herd of the game, so I don't know what it 'uses' for resources (directx version it's looking for, etc)
[06:43] <_goofy_> missing: well i dont have the option to shutdown or restart......i have to logout 1st
[06:43] <fyrestrtr> _goofy_: are you running XGL?
[06:44] <n30n> elfreakz: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[06:44] <SilentDis> elfreakz:  you can do a quick check of your packages from the command prompt.  sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:44] <missing> elf: its a command that goes like this sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:44] <n30n> elfreakz: type that into your terminal screen
[06:44] <_goofy_> yes im runnung xgl
[06:44] <elfreakz> n30n, i heard from some chatters here last few days, that 6.10 is not stable
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> _goofy_: its a known bug in XGL.
[06:44] <missing> ohh
[06:44] <missing> i know what youre talking about
[06:44] <n30n> elfreakz: I have had few problems with it.
[06:44] <_goofy_> its verry anoying
[06:44] <rredd4> grub sometimes does not load (i get a black screen before grub is to show on the screen) and sometimes it will load.  Do I need to reinstall grub or is there some other way?
[06:44] <missing> right click on one of the bars at the bottom
[06:45] <missing> and add the shutdown pannel
[06:45] <xipietotec> If anyone is familiar with Moblock I could seriously use some help
[06:45] <elfreakz> n30n, but 6.10 will solve my sound problem?
[06:45] <fyrestrtr> well, I had one problem -- where the strange UUID of the hard disks was "wrong", I just did a quick edit to fstab and fixed that.
[06:45] <SilentDis> !info moblock
[06:45] <ubotu> Package moblock does not exist in any distro I know
[06:46] <n30n> elfreakz: If the problem is with the sound card, then it the most likely solution
[06:46] <SilentDis> ahhh!  *ducks away from thoreauputic*
[06:46] <n30n> elfreakz: the easiest rather
[06:46] <thoreauputic> SilentDis: relax
[06:46] <elfreakz> n30n, if i upgrade to 6.10 what happen to all my application in here?
[06:46] <n30n> Theres an ubuntu 7.04?
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> !feisty | n30n
[06:47] <ubotu> n30n: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:47] <SilentDis> thoreauputic:  sorry, it's reaction.  there's so seldom an op here, it's usually bad when one shows up *giggle*
[06:47] <n30n> elfreakz: Upgrade only modifies and adds system and kernal files, it does not effect programs
[06:47] <xipietotec> SilentDis: It's not in the repo, it's Peerguardian for Linux
[06:47] <xipietotec> Unfortunately it's blocking the sourceforge CVS servers
[06:47] <thoreauputic> SilenceGold: it's our policy to remain non ops unless needed - keeps the temperature down :)
[06:48] <n30n> tonyyarusso: Oh, i see why seeing it as an upgrade option confused it.
[06:48] <elfreakz> n30n, is there any site that saying about this sound problem?
[06:48] <n30n> elfreakz: you could always google it. "strange sounds in ubuntu linux" should do the trick.
[06:49] <missing> elf: im curious what sound problems i wast here
[06:49] <SilentDis> xipietotec:  sorry.  still learning a bit around the edges.  never had direct experience with it, so I'm googling it now.  never hurts to learn ;)
[06:49] <n30n> missing: His system speakers are making consistant beeping noises
[06:49] <n30n> missing: that stop when he turns off the speakers
[06:49] <wxywxy> ...
[06:49] <arrenlex> thoreauputic: It's a lot better than those scary rooms on efnet where EVERYONE is an op. :)
[06:49] <ubox> !info gkismet
[06:49] <ubotu> Package gkismet does not exist in any distro I know
[06:49] <missing> elfreaks: i get strange sounds in my sons pc when movies are playing cause it doesnt have a fast enuf rpocesor
[06:49] <ubox> !info kismet
[06:49] <elfreakz> missing, dont know.. they are 2 type of sound pop up when ever i use ubuntu
[06:50] <thoreauputic> arrenlex: indeed
[06:50] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[06:50] <missing> ohhhhhh
[06:50] <n30n> !sound
[06:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:50] <missing> so i get a litte anxious im bored
[06:50] <thoreauputic> vanberge: MTA wars --->> #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[06:51] <missing> maybe i should go play et for a little bit
[06:51] <thoreauputic> oops MUA wars I mena ...
[06:51] <thoreauputic> *mean
[06:51] <supervisor> when  i  find information how  use  ubuntu
[06:51] <n30n> elfreakz: !sound
[06:51] <fyrestrtr> ah thoreauputic -- you are quick today ;)
[06:51] <vanberge> thoreauputic, not trying to start any wars... just curious.  will do offtopic in future, sorry
[06:51] <n30n> !sound elfreakz
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound elfreakz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <SilentDis> supervisor:  what would you like to know?  we're here to help :)
[06:51] <n30n> how in the blazes did i used to make ubotu pm people stuff
[06:52] <vanberge> thoreauputic, you would probably say 'pine' wouldnt you...  :-P
[06:52] <thoreauputic> vanberge: i wasn't serious :)
[06:52] <missing> do u guys know of a good kernel guide for a p4?
[06:52] <thoreauputic> vanberge: i mostly use sylpheed actually
[06:52] <arrenlex> n30n: You redirect the output to a person "!something > user" or use !tell
[06:52] <thoreauputic> vanberge: mutt for CLI :)
[06:52] <Emigre1> Hello.  I'm switching to Ubuntu on my main productivity machine, an AMD single-core 3200+ 64 bit chip.  Everything runs hunky-dory with my hardware and Edgy 32-bit.  What can I expect if I go with Edgy 64-bit, will I have problems?
[06:52] <n30n> !sound > elfreakz
[06:53] <n30n> arrenlex: Gotcha
[06:53] <elfreakz> !sound
[06:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:53] <SilentDis> n30n:  you can either pipe it (!hi | n30n for example) which will send the msg to the room, with that person's name on prefix.  or, you can do so privately (/msg ubotu !topic > target)
[06:53] <XiXaQ> Is 250MB of RAM enough for a single-user office Ubuntu user?
[06:53] <supervisor> i know used desktop genome
[06:53] <elfreakz> n30n, i already try that FILE chnage device, and still get the same sound oever and over
[06:53] <n30n> elfreakz: I still think its the drivers and you need to upgrade
[06:54] <n30n> elfreakz: I was just offering the alternatives anyway
[06:54] <SilentDis> XiXaQ:  i personally believe so, yes.  it'll be a bit slow around the edges though with gnome.  but other than that, it should work well on 256mb ram
[06:54] <missing> elffreak: do u have an intel board?
[06:54] <elfreakz> n30n, hmmm i will try.. but how
[06:54] <supervisor> fine  silentdis
[06:54] <elfreakz> missing, yea intel board... fujitsu s6240
[06:55] <n30n> elfreakz: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[06:55] <SilentDis> XiXaQ:  in fact, I just installed Ubuntu on a lower end machine (P3 550, 384mb, 8gb hd) for my mother.  she likes it :)
[06:55] <n30n> How many ops are in here
[06:56] <elfreakz> n30n, the Software Updates still in progress of searching
[06:56] <ubun> what is X-video and how do i get it? i dont see it in synaptic
[06:56] <missing> hmm.. and u have your headphone panel connected? the one that goes to the side or to the front?
[06:56] <XiXaQ> SilentDis, nice to know :) I'm running VMWare server and I'm trying to find out how much RAM I should allocate for each machine.
[06:56] <SilentDis> n30n:  it only takes one to squelch you... roflmao
[06:56] <SilentDis> XiXaQ:  256-384 will run them fine :)
[06:56] <n30n> SilentDis: I was just wondering...
[06:56] <thoreauputic> n30n: it varies with time of day etc.
[06:57] <SilentDis> n30n:  and I was just being goofy ;)
[06:57] <elfreakz> n30n, why the software update too so long? is it hang or anything?
[06:58] <missing> elffreak: now that i remember i had the same problem but quake3 would tell me the sound was muted then i connected the panel and the mute went away but i did get a beep now that i remember
[06:58] <deep> godorning ^^
[06:58] <deep> godmorning**
[06:58] <SilentDis> whomever requested that info on feisty, thanks.  i'm glad to see a goal of composite by default in there :)
[06:58] <n30n> elfreakz: It downloads the entire kernal and stuff
[06:58] <missing> ohh wait u have a laptop!!!!!!!!
[06:58] <_goofy_> i have 3 EIDE disks that are different sizes and i want to make one logical disk out of them.....any one have any ideas
[06:58] <thoreauputic> n30n: the access list has about 25-27 ops, if you want to know, for #ubuntu
[06:59] <elfreakz> n30n, i havent download it, just checking if there's update
[06:59] <elfreakz> and it took so long..
[06:59] <krustofski> any of you guys listen to techno?
[06:59] <n30n> thoreauputic: It's okay, i lost interste in that tangent
[06:59] <missing> well good bye enemy territory is calling me
[06:59] <thoreauputic> n30n: Ok :)
[06:59] <krustofski> if so, who sings that doobie doobie...[doobie * n] ...do song
[07:00] <elfreakz> n30n, at one point just now there error message saying coulnt download repositories.. and gave me 2 link
[07:00] <SilentDis> krustofski:  I assume you mean the original crooner, old blue eyes himself, sinatra?
[07:00] <n30n> !multiverse
[07:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:01] <n30n> !tell elfreakz about multiverse
[07:01] <krustofski> lol SilentDis no no, the techno edition, with the female vocal
[07:01] <elfreakz> n30n, got it
[07:01] <n30n> elfreakz: Ok.
[07:01] <deep> !multiverse
[07:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:01] <deep> hm
[07:01] <elfreakz> n30n, is there any way to end program like in xp - task manager?
[07:01] <deep> !multiverse > elfreakz
[07:01] <deep> uhh, didnt work :D
[07:01] <SilentDis> krustofski:  dah bu dee dah bu dahh?
[07:01] <deep> !multiverse | elfreakz
[07:01] <ubotu> elfreakz: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:01] <arrenlex> elfreakz: killall
[07:01] <deep> that :D
[07:01] <krustofski> possibly?
[07:01] <krustofski> lol
[07:01] <deep> just had to try :9
[07:02] <n30n> elfreakz: sometimes control c
[07:02] <deep> !multiverse > deep
[07:02] <elfreakz> aarrgghh i want to stop that software update and restart
[07:02] <_goofy_> anyone know a good software raid utility
[07:02] <SilentDis> krustofski:  it's in my archives somewhere... let me dig for a moment... 90+gb of mp3s is a bit of a pain at times lol
[07:03] <krustofski> lol thanks SilentDis
[07:03] <krustofski> its stuck in my noggin' and i cant get it out without hearing it
[07:05] <SilentDis> krustofski:  i'm tempted to say darude right now... still looking though
[07:05] <n30n> n30n: do i light up orange when i talk to myself?
[07:05] <elfreakz> n30n, software updates done checking, and its empty???
[07:05] <elfreakz> n30n, nothing to update and upgrade?
[07:05] <n30n> elfreakz: it should say there is an availible upgrade or somethinglike that
[07:05] <n30n> elfreakz: at the top
[07:05] <Epidemik> !partition
[07:05] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:06] <n30n> !fdisk
[07:06] <krustofski> SilentDis, hm, if you get the actual song title ill make dirty love to you!
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <deep> deep: do i light up orange when i talk to myself then?
[07:06] <elfreakz> n30n, it say my system is up-to-date
[07:06] <deep> No, I didnt. :/
[07:06] <n30n> gksudo "update-manager -d"
[07:06] <n30n> quotes and all
[07:06] <Epidemik> um there is no system-> administratin ->disks can someone help me?
[07:06] <SilentDis> krustofski:  it's either darude or Eifel 59...
[07:06] <n30n> elfreakz: if not.
[07:07] <bobbyz> Hi, my ubuntu laptop has difficulties getting an ip address on the wireless network at my college campus using dhclient, but pump works every time.  Is there a way to change the networking scripts to use pump instead of dhclient for dhcp?
[07:07] <n30n> !multiverse
[07:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:07] <krustofski> eifel 59? isnt it eifel 65?
[07:07] <Epidemik> can someone help me partition my harddrive?
[07:07] <n30n> elfreakz: you'll need to enable multiverse and universe repositories
[07:07] <Epidemik> please
[07:07] <elfreakz> n30n, hmmmm
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: what do you need help with?
[07:07] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: i want to partition my harddrive
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: for installation or another hard drive?
[07:08] <Epidemik> fryestrtr: it says system->administration->disks
[07:08] <Epidemik> but that doesnt exist
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: install gparted.
[07:08] <SilentDis> krustofski:  you could be right on that lol.  i know i herd it a couple days ago... but with a music collection this big on random... it's hard to remember :P
[07:08] <bretticus> anybody here setup a wintv card recently?
[07:08] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: The one i currnetly have in there. do i need to boot of live cd to do this?
[07:09] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: sudo apt-get install gparted?
[07:09] <krustofski> lol it was streaming on di.fm earlier today
[07:09] <krustofski> and im just going nuts now
[07:09] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr there it goes i think...when i reformat disk will i have to reinstall ubuntu
[07:09] <Epidemik> ?
[07:09] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: livecd comes with gparted, is should be there. The installer will launch a partition editor for you if you choose 'manual partition'.
[07:10] <SilentDis> krustofski:  Found it.  Eiffel 65 "Blue" :)
[07:10] <krustofski> lol no no
[07:10] <krustofski> thats not it
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: if you reformat the root partition (the / ) then yes.
[07:10] <krustofski> blue is something else
[07:10] <krustofski> this has a female vocal
[07:10] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: do i need to go off live to reformat entire thing?
[07:10] <krustofski> im gonna slice my throat
[07:10] <krustofski> bbl
[07:10] <SilentDis> krustofski:  darn.  rofl
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: no, you can do that from the live cd.
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: just start the installation process.
[07:11] <SilentDis> could an op please change the topic to "Welcome to #ubuntu!   :D
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> SilentDis: kubuntu is in #kubuntu
[07:12] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr but i already have ubuntu installed, do i need to go to livecd to reinstall?
[07:12] <SilentDis> rofl
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> SilentDis: and song discovery is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: no, just boot into your system. Open up a terminal, and type sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:13] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr okay ive done that now what do i do...?
[07:13] <Epidemik> i dont see the button to reformat
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: you need to run gparted.
[07:14] <Epidemik> i want my hdd to appear as if it just came outa the box
[07:14] <rocky123> hello eveyone
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: then you'll see all the buttons :P
[07:14] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: i see the buttons :D...theres too many, which one do i click
[07:14] <rocky123> can anybody tell me which version of video4linux is installed with the edgy kernel
[07:14] <elfreakz> n30n, the repository might be no longer available/could not be contacted bcos of network problem. if available and older version of the failed index will be used.otherwise the repository will be ignored. check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in preferences
[07:14] <n30n> !multiverse
[07:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:15] <elfreakz> n30n, i already follow what the repositories site telling me
[07:15] <rocky123> can anybody tell me which version of video4linux is installed with the edgy kernel 2.6.10.-generic
[07:15] <deep> Epidemik, first select your disc : )
[07:15] <xipietotec> If anyone is familiar with Moblock I could seriously use some help, its currently blocking sourceforge cvs servers
[07:16] <xipietotec> and I do not know how to edit the block list
[07:16] <Epidemik> deep theres three....sorry im such a noob
[07:16] <Epidemik> deep the delete option is greyed out....
[07:16] <deep> Epidemik, you dont know which one is which?
[07:16] <n30n> elfreakz: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[07:16] <Epidemik> deep i want all of them gone
[07:16] <mindflow> kudos to calblesm102! He is the package master!
[07:16] <elfreakz> n30n, why should i use edgy?
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/generalities/gparted.htm
[07:17] <elfreakz> n30n, i mean im on 6.06 now?
[07:17] <deep> Epidemik: everyone totally clear?
[07:17] <Epidemik> deep, so it is just like when i pulled th HD outa the boxx for the first time
[07:17] <cablesm102> thanks, mindflow
[07:17] <Epidemik> deep exactly
[07:17] <n30n> elfreakz: the documents has older verson codes too
[07:17] <n30n> somewhere in there
[07:17] <timpino> Hi Everybody!
[07:17] <elfreakz> ok
[07:17] <deep> Epidemik, first off, what filesystem you want on it?
[07:17] <n30n> elfreakz: if you look around you should find 6.06 too
[07:18] <ninjaboy> I just installed ubuntu, but its unable to find my usb mouse. what should i do? :/
[07:18] <timpino> I'm thinking about buying a mouse for my laptop to have with me on the go, I would love if it had a thumb-button, antbody know one?
[07:18] <Epidemik> deep FAT32 i believe but then again im pretty nooby
[07:18] <n30n> Epidemik: fdisk -l
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> timpino: the microsoft mouse does.
[07:19] <SilentDis> ninjaboy:  this is a bit of a workaround, and not a direct 'solution' to the issue... but do you have one of those little usb>ps2 dongles and a PS2 port on your box?
[07:19] <Epidemik> n30n in teminal?
[07:19] <n30n> Epidemik: indeed.
[07:19] <deep> Epidemik, okay, then just select a disc, then in the middle there will be this big bar, just rightclick it and you will have a lot of options
[07:19] <deep> Epidemik, there you can format it to fat32
[07:19] <timpino> fyerstrtr: I M$ mouse? holy shit buying from the devil! :) Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out
[07:20] <Epidemik> deep...which disk do i select
[07:20] <ninjaboy> SilentDis: i have to admit im totally blank. im not sure what i have or don't. all i know is that i used ubuntu a bit before, and then i got it working.
[07:20] <ninjaboy> just a plain usb mouse i suppose.
[07:20] <Epidemik> n30n. thanks but i dont think that did anything
[07:20] <deep> Epidemik, well, since your going to format all of then, it doesnt matter so much.
[07:20] <deep> Epidemik, you might want to format one of them to something else then FAT32 though, since you want an OS too.
[07:20] <Epidemik> deep- okay i'll start with /dev/hdg1...
[07:20] <n30n> Epidemik: you said yo uwerent sure if it was fat32, fdisk tells you what type they the partitions are i believe
[07:21] <Epidemik> deep.... what do you mean by that lol
[07:21] <SilentDis> ninjaboy:  I was talking a workaround.  many usb mice and keyboards come with little adapters to make their stuff work in PS2 ports.  not an perfect solution, but if it works...
[07:21] <Epidemik> n30n okay thanks
[07:21] <keeganX> How would I solve mplayer saying it can't find a -vo
[07:21] <deep> Epidemik, well, windows want an NTFS filesystem, and linux preferly an EXT3 or an reisersfs.
[07:21] <Epidemik> okay guys... im gonna come clean and hopefully this will help you guys help me
[07:21] <mindflow> Can Somebody help me find mozilla-browser mozilla-psm packages?
[07:21] <Epidemik> I wanna get windows back
[07:21] <deep> Epidemik, so one of the discs cant be an fat32
[07:21] <arrenlex> keeganX: You have a video file?  You don't need to go through all this.
[07:22] <mindflow> apt_get gives me Package mozilla-browser is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:22] <mindflow> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:22] <mindflow> is only available from another source
[07:22] <mindflow> E: Package mozilla-browser has no installation candidate
[07:22] <supervisor> thanks
[07:22] <Epidemik> n30n thats the longterm plan
[07:22] <ninjaboy> SilentDis: well all i have is this mouse i got from a friend. nothing more. ps2 protocol. is that something i need to install? :P
[07:22] <ninjaboy> im a bit embarassed.
[07:22] <timpino> ninjaboy: also if the mouse is wireless, make sure it's connected :P made that mistake myself
[07:22] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr i tried that and it said it couldnt recognize the harddrive....
[07:22] <deep> n30n died :(
[07:22] <ninjaboy> hehe, its not wireless.
[07:23] <ninjaboy> i know that much. lol
[07:23] <Epidemik> i thought that was cause i hadnt formatted it...
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: no, that's not why.
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: it recognizes unformatted harddisks just fine.
[07:23] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: wll mine is formatted in EXT3
[07:23] <timpino> ninjaboy, what you probably have to do is edit your X config
[07:24] <Epidemik> should it still be reconized?
[07:24] <mindflow> How do I do this:  (You'll need to have "universe" and "multiverse" Ubuntu repositories enabled in your APT settings.)?
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: that's fine, it will just say 'unknown partition type'.
[07:24] <thoreauputic> !repos
[07:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:24] <ninjaboy> timpino: i have no idea how to do that.
[07:24] <SilentDis> ninjaboy:  you probably will have to dive into your x.conf... but one thing before you do... got a usb disk or something else to test that usb port... just to be certain that's not the problem?
[07:24] <timpino> ninjaboy: there is a graphical interface to it, but I usually do it by hand...
[07:25] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr. i know this isnt the right place for windows help but...it says something like no harddrive attatched. i take outh the install disk and it takes me to Linux just fine...whats wrong?
[07:25] <ninjaboy> the port works. atleast in windows.
[07:25] <timpino> !XConfig
[07:25] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:25] <SilentDis> !multiverse | mindflow
[07:25] <ubotu> mindflow: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: if you want to completely wipe out all disks and make them as brand new, then boot from the livecd and run gparted from there (its already installed on the livecd).
[07:25] <mindflow> Thanks ubotu
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: how many disks do you have in your machine?
[07:25] <keeganX> arrenlex: pastebin is taking forever to load up
[07:25] <mindflow> Thanks SilentDis ;-)
[07:25] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr. 1 at the moment, my friend has my other one which i plan to put ubuntu on once i get XP working on this one
[07:25] <timpino> ninjaboy: there are loads and loads of tutorials on how to set up X.conf
[07:25] <keeganX> arrenlex: there we go!
[07:26] <tom_kelleher> so I read on digg about a new kernel. should I update?
[07:26] <keeganX> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36780/
[07:26] <timpino> ninjaboy: not as hard as it sound TBH
[07:26] <SilentDis> mindflow:  nt :)
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: okay, then the easiest option for you is -- boot from the livecd, run gparted from there, and delete all partitions.
[07:26] <arrenlex> keeganX: You can always use pastebin.ca if ubuntu's is slow.
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: not unless there is something compelling in the new kernel that you need.
[07:26] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: and that should fix it? have you installed windows before?
[07:27] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: heh, before? Installed? I do it every day (almost).
[07:27] <arrenlex> keeganX: And what was the command you ran?
[07:27] <SilentDis> tom_kelleher:  not sure what they're going with in feisty... edgy is running 2.6.17 as it is... what kernel were you reading about?
[07:27] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; I think it was mostly security stuff, but I'm not 100% sure.
[07:27] <tom_kelleher> SilentDis; I believe they were talking about 2.6.19
[07:28] <thoreauputic> currently feisty is 2.6.19 - there's talk of 2.6.20
[07:28] <tom_kelleher> I read that too
[07:28] <jishin> how can I change NICs order persitently, like eth0 for MAC 0, eth1 for MAC 1 ....
[07:28] <keeganX> arrenlex: I ran this  mplayer -vo vx ~/Desktop/pauly_shore_gets_punched_in_the_face.wmv
[07:28] <wyld> what is the command to delete a file in the command line?
[07:28] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: oh cool i guess... so i should trust you heh. i think ive trusted you with stuff like this before so here goes. Ill be right back i have the live/install CDs for about 10 different distros on my desk so i gotta sort through thme heh
[07:28] <ninjaboy> timpino: the graphical interface... alot of stuff in there. which one do i choose?
[07:28] <tom_kelleher> but I also heard Feisty is too unstable to use day to day
[07:28] <elfreakz> software updates 6.06 why it didnt say there's update/upgrade too 6.10???
[07:28] <thoreauputic> wyld: rm
[07:28] <wyld> thanks
[07:29] <SilentDis> wyld:  rm
[07:29] <arrenlex> keeganX: Hooray for lysdexia! It's "mplayer -vo xv"
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade | elfreakz
[07:29] <ubotu> elfreakz: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:29] <elfreakz> thanks
[07:29] <wyld> how about to remove a directory?
[07:29] <arrenlex> wyld: rm -r <folder>
[07:30] <wyld> ah
[07:30] <wyld> thanks
[07:30] <Epidemik> meh fyrestrtr. i installed from Ubuntu 5.10 Install disk, not live cd...so would a gento live CD work?
[07:30] <deep> mindflow :D
[07:30] <SilentDis> the lysdexic santa worshipper was told to llik by his god O.o
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: install disk IS a live cd.
[07:31] <Epidemik> i dont think 5.10 was
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: livecd just means that it boots up into a desktop.  It doesn't really matter.
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: if you have fast net connection, download the gparted livecd and run it.
[07:32] <_goofy_> can you change premissions on a usb disk.....
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> elfreakz: no.
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> tom_kelleher: Correct.  In Dapper they added the ability to install from the Live CD, and now ShipIt only sends that one.  You can use the old style CD (now called "alternate") if you need special options or don't have enough RAM, or just like it
[07:32] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr. okay wish me luck, if im not back in 25 minutes, start praying for my survival hehe
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> _goofy_: depends on the file system running on it.
[07:32] <Epidemik> thanks for the help once again
[07:32] <Epidemik> you rock
[07:32] <Epidemik> same goes for you deep and if you see n30n tell him thanks to
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: yeah from Dapper onwards they did this desktop cd business.
[07:32] <deep> Epidemik, okay :D np : )
[07:32] <rocky123> can anybody tell me which version of video4linux is installed with the edgy kernel 2.6.10.-generic
[07:33] <Epidemik> about me fyrestrtr? lol
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: no lol
[07:33] <Epidemik> okay
[07:33] <Epidemik> glad you have confidence
[07:33] <mindflow> Anybody know what to do with this error: gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory?
[07:33] <Epidemik> bbl
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> mindflow: you get it from what?
[07:34] <arrenlex> mindflow: Do you have build-essential installed?
[07:34] <mindflow> fyre: Trying to build democracy
[07:34] <_goofy_> fyrestrtr its a vfat disk and it only allows the owner to access it
[07:34] <mindflow> arrenlex: might not have
[07:34] <arrenlex> mindflow: Oh! Democracy! You need to apt-get remove --purge dictatorship first. (Kidding. =P)
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> mindflow: isn't there a deb for it?
[07:34] <SilentDis> lol
[07:34] <arrenlex> mindflow: Install it.
[07:35] <arrenlex> mindflow: Actually, it's in the repos.
[07:35] <arrenlex> !democracyplayer | mindflow
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> !info democracyplayer
[07:35] <ubotu> democracyplayer: GTK+ based RSS video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 480 kB, installed size 2984 kB
[07:35] <catsy> hi there i have difficulties setting up my adsl connection i'm currently on windows
[07:35] <tom_kelleher> does anybody know how I can connect to, and at bare minimum print from a networked HP printer
[07:35] <edog^> on a fresh ubuntu install, with ifconfig I'm seeing that my machine has two ip addresses even though I have one network card.  What's the deal with that?
[07:35] <Lam_> !dd
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <ninjaboy> timpino: i have no idea what im doing her im sad to say
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: just add it as a network printer with the hp drivers?
[07:35] <Phlosten> catsy, ethernet or usb?
[07:35] <ninjaboy> here.
[07:35] <mindflow> arrenlex: Will that build from source? I am running ppc
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> edog^: where do you see the two addresses?
[07:36] <arrenlex> mindflow: All packages in ubuntu exist for i386, amd64, and ppc.
[07:36] <mindflow> great
[07:36] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; that easy huh... does HP have good Linux support then?
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> arrenlex: not all ;)
[07:36] <arrenlex> mindflow: apt-get will automatically select and install the correct version. All you need to do is install democracyplayer.
[07:36] <edog^> fyrestrtr, using ifconfig
[07:37] <arrenlex> fyrestrtr: They have to. They can exist for MORE, sure, but they must have those three.
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: its one of the better. HP drivers work with other printers too. For more info, look up your printer at linuxprinting.org
[07:37] <nothlit> Whats the diff between democracyplayer and zudeo
[07:37] <elfreakz> how to stop the timer when dual boot?? its like after few second it auto login to ubuntu.. i want to stop the timer
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> edog^: what two ip addressess do you see?
[07:37] <edog^> I have <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> which doesn't make sense because I have another machine already using 101
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> elfreakz: hit esc
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> edog^: pastebin the output of ifconfig
[07:37] <elfreakz> fyrestrtr, how if im not infront the computer... it will go to ubuntu.. then i have to restart and boot again
[07:38] <mindflow> Wow that worked, my opinion of linux just gained 10 points ;-)
[07:38] <_goofy_> is there a way to let "user" and "other" read a usb disk
[07:38] <catsy> i need help with my adsl connection ethernet
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> _goofy_: mount it with a liberal umask
[07:38] <arrenlex> mindflow: Always check to make sure a package exists in the repositores before trying to get it by other means... you can use synaptic's search feature or "apt-cache search <terms>" from the command line to find out.
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> !packages
[07:39] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> mindflow: ^^^ for you :)
[07:39] <mindflow> great
[07:40] <Epidemik> haha
[07:40] <derekS> i am upgrading from dapper->edgy. i only have packages from the official ubuntu archives. i did it via apt-get dist-upgrade. it is saying how "courier-authdaemon" is in a bad inconsistent state. i have tried -f upgrade, reconfiguring, reinstalling, etc
[07:40] <mindflow> I like to get my hands dirty but dirty hands are dangerous for a noob like me ;-)
[07:40] <derekS> nothing is working
[07:40] <derekS> what should i do
[07:40] <Epidemik> i bet you guys are disipointed to see me back so soon...
[07:40] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr you still here?
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade | derekS
[07:40] <ubotu> derekS: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: sure.
[07:40] <catsy> i need help with my adsl connection ethernet
[07:41] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr  unlucky for you :P... okay so i booted of the install disk. And i didnt give me a GUI
[07:41] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr i mean like X didnt boot...
[07:41] <rocky123> hello..can anybody tell me which version of video4linux is installed with the edgy kernel 2.6.10.-generic
[07:41] <arrenlex> Epidemik: Are you sure you didn't accidentally grab the alternate or server CD?
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: the easiest option for you, is to download and burn the gparted livecd.
[07:41] <mindflow> Another noob question: I don't get the oprion to go to 1280x1024. Where do I set my monitor capabilities?
[07:42] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: like it said "press enter to being install or type server to install server
[07:42] <arrenlex> !fixres | mindflow
[07:42] <ubotu> mindflow: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:42] <Epidemik> arrenlex, it wsa an old 5.10 disk :(
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: download the gparted livecd, its only 30 MB
[07:42] <mindflow> beautiful. You guys are well organised
[07:42] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr :( cd burner is broken on this computer
[07:42] <arrenlex> mindflow: Ubotu is our god.
[07:42] <edog^> hmm..wait a sec...the eth1 is my wireless which is disabled, so I thought it wouldn't show up on ifconfig.  And why would it say it has an ip of <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: can it boot from usb?
[07:42] <twosouls82> what does '<person a> runs <person b>'s fork bomb...' mean?
[07:43] <catsy> i need help with my adsl connection ethernet
[07:43] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr, i only have a Firewire hard drive, im working on limited resources right now lol
[07:43] <Epidemik> my mom is using the other computer
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: okay, no problem. Are you in Ubuntu right now?
[07:43] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr yes
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: okay, open up a terminal (hit alt+f2 and type gnome-terminal and hit enter)
[07:44] <catsy> hello??
[07:45] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr okay, it opend a normal terminal window. was it supposed to do something else?
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: no, that's about it.
[07:45] <Phlosten> catsy, is your ethernet connecting to the modem?
[07:45] <droolubuntu> how do i find out exactly what processor i have??? i know i have intel celeron but i want more details..
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: now, type mount and hit enter.
[07:45] <arrenlex> droolubuntu: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:45] <Phlosten> catsy, ie can you ping the modem?
[07:45] <arrenlex> droolubuntu: (that's a command)
[07:45] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr mount: can't find enter in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:46] <voltz_> I saved a script for nautilus but only as a text file,is there a way to change that to script ?
[07:46] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; thanks man. I didn't know about that site.
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: I mean type mount and then hit the enter key
[07:46] <arrenlex> voltz_: chmod +x <file> to make it executable
[07:46] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr in the terminal window? Thats what i did
[07:46] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr oh waitl
[07:46] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr lol didnt see that
[07:46] <voltz_> arrenlex, thanks,I will try that
[07:46] <Epidemik> fyrestrtrtr Im not that nooby, just tired *embarresed*
[07:47] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr okay, should i pastbin that?
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: okay the first line should be /dev/(something) on / type ext3
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: note down the /dev/(something) part.
[07:47] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr /dev/hdg1
[07:47] <droolubuntu> arrenlex, the command lists that i have intel celeron cpu 2.40 GHz...model 2....does it mean i have Celeron 2??
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: you have one hard disk?
[07:48] <droolubuntu> i want to install swiftox for my particular processor but dont know which package to choose!
[07:48] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr yes but i formated it with the default options when i installed ubuntu
[07:48] <arrenlex> droolubuntu: I don't know intel's naming conventions. All I know is that, for me, "model name" contains the correct name of my CPU.
[07:48] <arrenlex> droolubuntu: YYMV.
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: okay, no problem.
[07:48] <arrenlex> droolubuntu: -Y +M
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: now type sudo -i hit enter, type your password and then hit enter again.
[07:48] <droolubuntu> arrenlex, whats that? -y +m???
[07:49] <arrenlex> droolubuntu: Nothing, I was correcting my spelling. xD
[07:49] <arrenlex> YYMV -> YMMV
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> droolubuntu: what options do you have for swiftfox?
[07:49] <droolubuntu> ymmv mans?
[07:49] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr and all this is going to get the windows installer to work... or we hope that atleast? just before we do a whole bunch of stuff i wanna make sure were going in the right direction
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: yes.
[07:49] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; so I downloaded the file, and tried to install it, but I need to install some things first, could you please help me get them?
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> droolubuntu: your mileage may vary = ymmv
[07:50] <edog^^^> how do I set the default gateway?  I think it's trying to use my wireless on some random open access point as the gateway...
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: what things, and what file?
[07:50] <thoreauputic> droolubuntu: "Your mileage may vary" - you may have different experiences
[07:50] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: root@ubuntu:~# ...now what?
[07:50] <christian1222> hi guys, what do i have to do to get windows media player 9 streams to work in firefox, i have alread installed the mozilla-mplayer package, and that didnt work
[07:50] <edog^^^> (I had less problems setting up my network with 5.10)
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: type fdisk /dev/hdg
[07:50] <droolubuntu> fyrestrtr, swiftfox-athlon
[07:50] <droolubuntu> swiftfox-athlon-xp
[07:50] <droolubuntu> swiftfox-athlon64
[07:50] <droolubuntu> swiftfox-k6-2
[07:50] <droolubuntu> swiftfox-pentium-m
[07:50] <droolubuntu> swiftfox-pentium2
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: and hit enter.
[07:50] <droolubuntu> swiftfox-pentium3
[07:50] <droolubuntu> swiftfox-pentium3m
[07:50] <droolubuntu> swiftfox-pentium4
[07:50] <droolubuntu> swiftfox-prescott
[07:50] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; the installer said I need the dependencies, libjpeg
[07:50] <thoreauputic> droolubuntu: do not paste
[07:50] <thoreauputic> !paste
[07:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:50] <droolubuntu> oops sorry:(
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: I forgot what you were installing.
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> droolubuntu: pentium-3
[07:51] <thoreauputic> !pastebin " droolubuntu
[07:51] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; oh sorry, it's a printing and imaging driver for my HP OfficeJet 7310
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin " droolubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <thoreauputic> !pastebin > droolubuntu
[07:51] <yoshig3> !pastebin | droolubuntu
[07:51] <ubotu> droolubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:51] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: okay, was i supposed to do exactly that or should i have done fdisk /dev/hdg1
[07:51] <Epidemik> ?
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: you just just download the .ppd file.
[07:51] <yoshig3> Ubotu, tell droolubuntu about pastebin.
[07:51] <arrenlex> droolubuntu: On a modern CPU, you will not notice a difference between swiftfox and firefox.
[07:51] <christian1222> hi guys, what do i have to do to get windows media player 9 streams to work in firefox, i have alread installed the mozilla-mplayer package, and that didnt work
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: no, exactly fdisk /dev/hdg
[07:52] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr okay done
[07:52] <yoshig3> Ubotu, tell droolubuntu about !pastebin.
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about !pastebin. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> yoshig3: it's done
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: now type the letter p and hit enter
[07:52] <yoshig3> lol...
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: you will see a listing of partitions
[07:52] <droolubuntu> arrenlex, but i want firefox2 so swiftfox has debs for it...
[07:52] <arrenlex> christian1222: Are you able to play WMV9 files at all?
[07:52] <yoshig3> tonyyarusso: I know I'm trying to figure out how to do it.
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> yoshig3: !pastebin | nick is it
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: tell me how many you see.
[07:52] <arrenlex> droolubuntu: Firefox2 is in the repositories. apt-get install firefox.
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> !bot | yoshig3
[07:52] <ubotu> yoshig3: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:53] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; a ppd file? the site I found had me download a .run file to use in a terminal, except it said I need libjpeg to install the driver
[07:53] <christian1222> arrenlex: i dont know, i know i cant stream them, and i can watch dvix, etc
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> christian1222: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:53] <thoreauputic> irony... fifteen people using the !paste factoid makes more noise than the original paste... ;-)
[07:53] <yoshig3> ah
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: hrmm ... I think you might have downloaded the wrong thing.
[07:53] <arrenlex> christian1222: Download a wmv file and see if you can play it from your hard drive.
[07:53] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr 3: /dev/hdg1, /dev/hdg2/, /dev/hdg5/
[07:53] <christian1222> fyrestrtr: ive already done that
[07:53] <christian1222> arrenlex: ill try that, brb
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: type the letter d then hit enter, then type the number 1 and hit enter
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: then, type d and hit enter, type number 2 and hit enter
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: finally, type d hit enter.
[07:54] <droolubuntu> fyrestrtr, im using dapper
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: then, type p and hit enter.
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: just give me a few minutes and I'll sort you out.
[07:54] <droolubuntu> plz see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36782/ and help me decide:)
[07:54] <rajiv_nair> hi;0
[07:54] <arrenlex> droolubuntu: Well then upgrade, silly!
[07:54] <rajiv_nair> :)
[07:55] <christian1222> arrenlex: i dont appear to have the correct codec
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> thoreauputic: doesn't the bot have flood protection? I thought it did.
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats | christian1222
[07:55] <ubotu> christian1222: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:55] <Pie-rate> how do i make flash in firefox use ALSA? and what's the address of whoever's idea it was write a sound driver that didn't have a software mixer? i feel the need to commit a homicide.
[07:55] <droolubuntu> arrenlex, edgy is too problematic....blank screen blinking cursor bootup...n extremely slow booting..
[07:55] <arrenlex> !wmv | christian1222
[07:55] <arrenlex> >__<
[07:55] <arrenlex> !restricted formats | christian1222
[07:55] <ubotu> christian1222: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:55] <derekS> fyrestrtr: i read that upgrade link you gave me, i think upgrading before reading that b0rked my system...
[07:55] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: not as far as I know - but I haven't been around as much lately. It does stop repeats on factoids though
[07:56] <rajiv_nair> dapper live cd aint booting in my friends pc.. he has a geforce FX 5200 AGP card...X crashing on boot...........anybody got a solution//
[07:56] <droolubuntu> fyrestrtr, plz see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36782/ and help me decide:)
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: what is going on?
[07:56] <droolubuntu> droolubuntu, i get blank screen + blinking cursor bootup..n extrememly slow booting...any help???
[07:57] <arrenlex> arrenlex: droolubuntu seems to be talking to himself.
[07:57] <arrenlex> arrenlex: Indeed. How weird. I guess he's cracked.
[07:57] <deep> hahaha
[07:57] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr hold on
[07:57] <arrenlex> arrenlex: Yeah. Strain of trying to fix his system must have gotten to him. = / poor chap.
[07:57] <deep> deep: people in this channel ar wierd.
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> droolubuntu: just install the normal firefox.
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> deep: yes, they talk to themselves.
[07:58] <deep> haha :D
[07:58] <thoreauputic> deep: no, we're normal - it's the rest of the human race that has a problem ;-)
[07:58] <droolubuntu> fyrestrtr, but i need firefox2....im on dapper
[07:58] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; just so you know, this is the driver I found via the site you gave me that will support all of the features of my printer. http://hplip.sourceforge.net/downloads.html
[07:58] <yoshig3> Guys, how do I install the newest nvidia drivers? ?
[07:58] <deep> thoreauputic, aah :D
[07:58] <deep> hahahah
[07:58] <arrenlex> tom_kelleher: apt-get install hplip ;)
[07:58] <yoshig3> The NEWEST.
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> droolubuntu: why?
[07:58] <rajiv_nair> !nvidia
[07:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> !info hplip
[07:58] <yoshig3> No
[07:58] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 1.6.9-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 534 kB, installed size 2544 kB
[07:58] <yoshig3> I don't wnat the OLD drivers
[07:58] <Pie-rate> linux sound needs a lot of work =/
[07:58] <yoshig3> I want the NEW NEW drivers
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: just install it from the repos.
[07:58] <tom_kelleher> yoshig3; didn't you get the latest last night?
[07:59] <VMT2007> on ubuntu? lol./
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> !amaranth | yoshig3
[07:59] <ubotu> yoshig3: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[07:59] <droolubuntu> fyrestrtr, , i get blank screen + blinking cursor bootup..n extrememly slow booting on edgy
[07:59] <yoshig3> tom_Kelleher: I thought I did but they were 9x29, not 9x31
[07:59] <Unity> new here, how to get administrator privaledges in cedega? is prompting me for it
[07:59] <droolubuntu> sorry that was an error of me talkin to myself LOL
[07:59] <dr-nix> it would be nice if nvidia worked with the ubuntu ppl a bit so that binary packages for ubuntu would show up
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> droolubuntu: sounds like a bad burn on your disk.
[07:59] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: I'm still getting extremely slow graphical response, and it's slugging down my system.
[07:59] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: I have the newest drivers and all that jazz.
[07:59] <arrenlex> dr-nix: They're there.
[07:59] <thoreauputic> !cedega > Unity
[08:00] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr what was supposed to happen?
[08:00] <droolubuntu> fyrestrtr, many others r havin the same prob...and i already checked the ubuntu edgy disc...
[08:00] <christian1222> arrenlex: its not those codecs, i have already gotten all those, i am running 6.10 if that helps
[08:00] <Unity> k cool
[08:00] <arrenlex> christian1222: How are you trying to play it?
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: it will make your disk brand now. Did you type p and see the output? It should show no partitions.
[08:00] <christian1222> arrenlex: i can hear the sound, just not see the video
[08:00] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr : yes
[08:00] <arrenlex> christian1222: Yes, because you do not have wmv codecs.
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> droolubuntu: what others? I didn't. I've installed edgy on 4 machines now.
[08:00] <tom_kelleher> yoshig3; whats your hardware?
[08:00] <christian1222> arrenlex: ive tried playing it through mplayer from terminal, as well as through gui
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: now, type w and hit enter.
[08:01] <dr-nix> arrenlex:  last nvidia driver i installed i had to go into the code and modify to get it to compile .. (but that was their sound driver though)
[08:01] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: Good enough. It ran great in windows. GeForce4 MX 4000 128MB DDR PCi
[08:01] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr , okay
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: then, reboot with your Windows install cd.
[08:01] <christian1222> arrenlex: and ive tried totem and gxine
[08:01] <arrenlex> christian1222: Does /usr/lib/win32 contain anything?
[08:01] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: if it doesnt work will it boot into linux of is linux gone?
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: it will work :)
[08:01] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: but just incase ... lol
[08:01] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; I did the apt get in a terminal, but I don't thin, it installed
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: well then those linux cds will come in handy :P
[08:02] <droolubuntu> fyrestrtr, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=291263
[08:02] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr also is it in NSTF (or whatever that was) format
[08:02] <christian1222> arrenlex: it says that i dont have that directory
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: do you have the universe/multiverse repositories enabled?
[08:02] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr :P I love you
[08:02] <arrenlex> christian1222: Then you do not have the codecs you need.
[08:02] <droolubuntu> fyrestrtr, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257764
[08:02] <arrenlex> !w32codecs | christian1222
[08:02] <ubotu> christian1222: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: the windows installer will format it for you.
[08:02] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr Thanks for all your help...its only a matter of time until im back in this channel trying to install ubuntu again :P
[08:02] <arrenlex> christian1222: In particular, do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[08:02] <Epidemik> wish me luck
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: your hard disk is attached to your computer how? Is it internal or external?
[08:03] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: any ideas?
[08:03] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr internally but i may have done it wrong
[08:03] <tom_kelleher> yoshig3; hm... well I'm no expert or anything on this, so be sure to ask around a bit more. But perhaps you should do a fresh install with no Nvidia drivers and try again.
[08:03] <droolubuntu> anywhere i can get firefox2 debs for dapper?
[08:03] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr anything else i should know before i do this?
[08:03] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; I believe so. Are the in the source list? and if so which ones?
[08:03] <arrenlex> droolubuntu: Why not use the official tarball?
[08:03] <Rebecca> if i want KDE as my GUI should i install kubuntu or ubuntu.. and if so why?
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: well your hdg was weird. What kind of computer is this?
[08:04] <arrenlex> Rebecca: kubuntu.
[08:04] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: With no nvidia drivers my Xserver will not start. It errors, and I am forced to use my integrated card.
[08:04] <arrenlex> !kubuntu | Rebecca
[08:04] <christian1222> arrenlex: im doing that right now
[08:04] <ubotu> Rebecca: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[08:04] <pvangarde> Does anybody have winetools-0.9jo-III.tar.gz, Winetools website is down
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: you should have a listing like deb http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[08:04] <deep> droolubuntu, isnt the firefox that is in repos firefox 2?
[08:04] <tom_kelleher> yoshig3; I mean do a fresh install with generic drivers.
[08:04] <christian1222> thanks, im slowly learning to use linux, and just trying to get everything i normally use working while i learn the basics
[08:04] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: Lol, dont even begin to talk about my computer
[08:04] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: my baby was $30 in a garagesale
[08:04] <christian1222> arrenlex: see above 2 lines
[08:04] <pvangarde> Anybody use wine here?
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: with a different country code (mine is kw) in your /etc/apt/sources.list -- a quick way to check it is to type grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:04] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: bought a $40 gfx card and it worked
[08:04] <Rebecca> ubotu: i know this
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: oh lawd.
[08:05] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: barly
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i know this - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: but its not too shabby of a computer
[08:05] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: this is basically a fresh install. I couldn't get my x server to work with my graphics card without the nvidia drivers.
[08:05] <Rebecca> just wondering if kubuntu is outdated or is KDE setup on ubuntu tricky?
[08:05] <arrenlex> christian1222: Welcome to the Linux ship :)
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: okay well good luck, it should work just fine.
[08:05] <christian1222> arrenlex: thanks
[08:05] <thoreauputic> Rebecca: if you prefer KDE install Kubuntu, and no
[08:05] <Rebecca> thoreauputic: ok :)
[08:05] <Rebecca> thanks  :0
[08:05] <Rebecca> :)
[08:05] <arrenlex> Rebecca: Absolutely not, kubuntu is in tip-top shape; it's developed concurrently with ubuntu and is exactly the same but for the GUI.
[08:05] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: AMD 2000+ (OCed to 1.7 GHz), 13 GB Harddrive, nVidia Geforce 6200
[08:06] <thoreauputic> Rebecca: note that there is a channel #kubuntu as well
[08:06] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr:for 70 USD id say i did okay
[08:06] <llama32> Rebecca: you can still install KDE on normal ubuntu - effectively turning it into kubuntu... kubuntu is exactly the same, but with kde as default
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> my my -- 13 GB -- I think my temporary internet cache is bigger than that :P
[08:06] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; yea, I have those.
[08:06] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: lol
[08:06] <Rebecca> thoreauputic: cool bananas :)
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: then type sudo apt-get install hplip
[08:06] <pvangarde> Seriously, doesn't anyone use WINE?
[08:06] <thoreauputic> Rebecca: :)
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> pvangarde: sometimes, at night -- I'll drink some with dinner. Why?
[08:06] <arrenlex> Epidemik: What old man's trash did you dig a 13-GB hard drive out of? xD
[08:06] <ThePub> pvangarde: only when I'm eating duck
[08:07] <llama32> frisbee
[08:07] <tom_kelleher> yoshig3; so Ubuntu won't work 'out of the box'
[08:07] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr:the guy said he thought it was 20 GB, i got home and was somewhat pissed but he gave me another HD, i just cant find it right now. i think my firiend has it
[08:07] <thoreauputic> pvangarde: someone no doubt does - what is your question?
[08:07] <arrenlex> pvangarde: I use Wine. Problems?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[08:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:07] <pvangarde> thoreauputic: i need the new winetools file, the winetools website is down
[08:07] <Epidemik> arrenlex: 30 USD in a garage sale and ive spent many hours on this beast,
[08:07] <Epidemik> arrenlex good deal for me :D
[08:07] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: Not if I try to use my graphics card. If I use my intel integrated card, it will.
[08:07] <tundejeg> how do i view a created group
[08:07] <pvangarde> winetools source file
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> pvangarde: try your luck at #winehq
[08:07] <thoreauputic> pvangarde: #wine-hq I think
[08:07] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; this is what I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36784/
[08:07] <Smotang> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0595094724/ref=wl_it_dp/002-6327489-0636801?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2GASB75QO1KDB&colid=1BL4NBBAVVCQE
[08:07] <Epidemik> lol the gfx card cost more than the whole computer
[08:08] <pvangarde> thank you!
[08:08] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr what was weird about my harddrive?
[08:08] <thoreauputic> ah #winehq may be right
[08:08] <tom_kelleher> yoshig3; perhpas thats the issue?
[08:08] <arrenlex> pvangarde: I advise you not to go to #winehq with winetools questions. You will be crucified.
[08:08] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: But this graphics card was mentioned specifically to work.
[08:08] <pvangarde> really? why?
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: other than the unlucky size?
[08:08] <pvangarde> I just need someone to send me winetools-0.9jo-III.tar.gz
[08:08] <arrenlex> pvangarde: The wine people hate winetools for the same reasons that, and even more than, ubuntu people hate automatix.
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: oh, its already there then :) Is this a recent upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[08:08] <tundejeg> how do i view a created group
[08:08] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: before i told you about the size :D you said something was weird
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: hdg
[08:09] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: This graphics card works because it runs glxgears and beryl, but everything is so laggy.
[08:09] <tom_kelleher> yoshig3; What I mean is, perhpas your getting bad proformance becuase it's trying to use the Intel GPU not the Nvidia one
[08:09] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: But wouldn't that make it not work at all?
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> Epidemik: its a strange device id for a disk, normally they are hda or hdb
[08:09] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: lol i didnt know what i was doing when i installed Ubuntu, prolly just hit enter a whole bunch of times
[08:09] <nothlit> Though with wine you can always rm -fr ~/.wine && wineprefixcreate
[08:09] <tundejeg> how do i view a created group
[08:09] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; this is a fresh Edgy install
[08:09] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: Because it's outputting from my graphics card, my graphics card is plugged into my monitor
[08:09] <Epidemik> fyrestrtr: Here i go, talk to you later
[08:09] <llama32> can i completely upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10 over the internet [i guess with apt] ?
[08:09] <Epidemik> bye deep if youre still here
[08:09] <tundejeg> how do i view a created group
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: okay well either case the drivers are installed.
[08:10] <deep> take care Epidemik :)
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: you can add the printer from system > administration > printing
[08:10] <tom_kelleher> yoshig3; yea, that would make sense, it's just the only thing I can think of that may be causing issues. Like I said I'm no expert on this.
[08:10] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: How would i disable it then?
[08:10] <FreeNet> hi question: for entertainment wise... which is better? ubuntu or fedora?
[08:10] <arrenlex> llama32: Yes.
[08:10] <arrenlex> !upgrade | llama32
[08:10] <ubotu> llama32: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:10] <llama32> thanks arrenlex
[08:10] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: I have it set to use PCI on boot in my bios
[08:11] <pvangarde> arrenlex: yep, they wouldnt send it
[08:11] <arrenlex> pvangarde: Told you. =P
[08:11] <arrenlex> pvangarde: You should just wait until the site comes up.
[08:11] <arrenlex> pvangarde: Note winetools will not work with recent version of wine.
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: double click new printer, then select network printer, then from the drop down, select HP DirectJet -- type the IP address of your printer, and then click Next, select it from the list of given HP printers (it should be there).
[08:11] <arrenlex> pvangarde: recent being greater than 0.9.3 (current is 0.9.27 I believe)
[08:12] <pvangarde> arrenlex: I have 9.22
[08:12] <tom_kelleher> yoshig3; I really wish I knew why you were getting bad proformance, like I said. Ask around a bit more, I'm sure somebody will know. In the mean time I'll look into it for you, if I come across anything I'll let you kow.
[08:12] <yoshig3> tom_kelleher: Everyone suggests the same thing. "Drivers, drivers, drivers." But I have the newest drivers, so that can't be the problem.
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: what is the problem you are having?
[08:13] <pvangarde> arrenlex: its actually the server that hosts the file thats down, not the actual winetools website.. it has been like that for some time now
[08:13] <Music_Shuffle1> The same one about window drawing speed still yoshig3 ?
[08:13] <christian1222> arrenlex: i still cant stream it
[08:14] <yoshig3> Music_Shufflel: Yeah, exactly. It's a bit better with beryl, but it's still extremely slow, and Counter-strike gets terrible FPS when it should be getting great fps.
[08:14] <AnI> hi hi just one question can ubuntu be installed on a usb thumbdrive?
[08:14] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; that was easy, but it's only using the basic driver.
[08:14] <christian1222> arrenlex: i can watch it in mplayer, but not in totem, and i still cant stream wmv in firefox
[08:14] <yoshig3> Music_Shuffle1: it's as if I dont' have a graphcis card, but have the capabilities of running 3d programs.
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: what do you want to do? scan from it?
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: is direct rendering running for you?
[08:14] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: yeap
[08:15] <arrenlex> christian1222: You're going to have to pick a player, I'm afraid. Mplayer and totem conflict with firefox and you will probably get firefox trying to use totem to play the files.
[08:15] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; well on the site you gave me, there are two drivers the basic and one that gives scanning, papers status, ink levels, all that stuff too.
[08:15] <Music_Shuffle1> mplayer conflicts with FF?
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: how is glxgears fps WITHOUT xgl or aiglx?
[08:15] <arrenlex> christian1222: Remove the totem-mozilla package, and make sure you have mozilla-mplayer installed.
[08:15] <AnI> Just use Opera
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: show me the exact url.
[08:15] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: about 1000fps.
[08:15] <arrenlex> Music_Shuffle1: MPlayer conflits with totem in firefox, is what I said.
[08:15] <Music_Shuffle1> Oh ok. Just wondering. :D
[08:15] <christian1222> arrenlex: how do i remove the totem-mozilla package?
[08:16] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; http://hplip.sourceforge.net/downloads.html
[08:16] <christian1222> arrenlex: ive never had to remove a package
[08:16] <arrenlex> christian1222: What do you usually use to install them?
[08:16] <nothlit> !synaptic | christian1222
[08:16] <ubotu> christian1222: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:16] <elfreakz> how to change my desktop look of ubuntu?
[08:16] <christian1222> arrenlex: sudo apt-get install
[08:16] <arrenlex> christian1222: Then just use sudo apt-get remove :)
[08:16] <christian1222> oh
[08:16] <christian1222> cool
[08:17] <AnI>  can ubuntu be installed on a usb thumbdrive?
[08:17] <arrenlex> AnI: Yes.
[08:17] <AnI> is there a how-to?
[08:17] <AnI> im nub
[08:17] <arrenlex> AnI: Google would be your best friend in that regard, I think... it's not really a standard thing people do, so I doubt ubotu has a factoid for it.
[08:17] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: any ideas?
[08:18] <AnI> thx arrenlex
[08:18] <AnI> i think dsl is just oo limited
[08:18] <arrenlex> pvangarde: 9.22 is way too new for winetools.
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: just a minute, solving a printing problem.
[08:19] <arrenlex> pvangarde: 19 versions too new. :P
[08:19] <Music_Shuffle1> AnI, Edgy or dapper?
[08:19] <nothlit> AnI, I think theres an article about it on help.ubuntu.com/community
[08:19] <jb0nd38372> animal_, What do you mean by limited, conection rates?
[08:19] <jb0nd38372> err AnI
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: okay, are you there?
[08:19] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; yea
[08:20] <stephan21> can someone tell me whats the best way to copy a audio cd to a .mp3 file
[08:20] <christian1222> arrenlex: YES!! you are AWESOME!
[08:20] <arrenlex> christian1222: I KNOW THAT! ^__^
[08:20] <christian1222> arrenlex: thanks
[08:21] <nothlit> !mp3 | stephan21
[08:21] <ubotu> stephan21: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <arrenlex> christian1222: Glad I could help. I love MPlayer.
[08:21] <Bray> How do I create a log for the terminal?
[08:22] <arrenlex> Bray: A "log" for the terminal which logs what?
[08:22] <elfreakz> where can i get theme for ubuntu?
[08:22] <Bray> Like... I want to start up WoW, but I get an error each time... so... I dunno, an action log I guess you could call it?
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> !themes | elfreakz
[08:23] <ubotu> elfreakz: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:23] <arrenlex> Bray: Just copy the output and save it to a file?
[08:23] <elfreakz> tonyyarusso, ok...
[08:23] <yoshig3> Bray: I suggest that if you want to game, use windows. Ubuntu is terrible graphically. It looks pretty, but I've had nothing but bad experiences with trying ot get it to work.
[08:23] <nothlit> Bray, wine wow.exe > /home/user/wowerrors.txt
[08:23] <jb0nd38372> is there an easy way I can watch or log any output Xserver has?  I have an issue, when my screensaver is in use, and the sceen locks to the password field it is black and never shows me the password prompt
[08:24] <arrenlex> yoshig3: I disagree. Graphics on Linux are hit and miss. Usually Nvidia is hit and ATI is miss, but not always. It's about 50-50.
[08:24] <yoshig3> arrenlex: I can't get my card to work for nothing. I've been at it for days.
[08:24] <arrenlex> jb0nd38372: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:24] <yoshig3> arrenlex: It works, but I get extremely slow performance.
[08:24] <Bray> yoshig3, I would, but all of my Windows installation disks are either broken or corrupted. That's what happens when you have younger siblings. Also, my installation of Windows on this computer got effed, and it's a very proficcient gamer
[08:25] <arrenlex> yoshig3: And my card worked out of the box with 3D acceleration using open-source drivers.  It's 50-50.
[08:25] <jb0nd38372> arrenlex: Thank you... Going to try and create the situation and figure out what is causing xserver to crash or never restore video.
[08:25] <christian1222> arrenlex: so it is working on one site, but on another, it appears to be working, saying it is connecting, then it just goes to saying "stopped"
[08:25] <yoshig3> arrenlex: I use nvidia, with a card specifically supported by ubuntu.
[08:25] <christian1222> arrenlex: any ideas?
[08:25] <arrenlex> christian1222: What sites?
[08:25] <nothlit> Bray, you could always try cedega cvs
[08:25] <Bray> nothlit, I would, but I don't have any money to get it
[08:26] <christian1222> arrenlex: its a secure site for my work
[08:26] <arrenlex> christian1222: Ah. That explains it.
[08:26] <christian1222> arrenlex: do you know of any other good places to check it?
[08:26] <arrenlex> christian1222: Right-click on the movie and go to configure.
[08:26] <Bray> nothlit, the only reason I'm trying to get it to work with wine is just that
[08:26] <shoby> whos there?
[08:26] <paolo> Hi :). is it possibile to auto-mount a cd when inserted?
[08:26] <christian1222> arrenlex: ok
[08:26] <arrenlex> christian1222: There, check "connect to RTSP media over TCP".
[08:26] <yoshig3> arrenlex: Any ideas?
[08:27] <jb0nd38372> yoshig3: Did you install nvidia official or beta drivers?  I'm running an Nvidia 7950 and have had good luck with World of Warcraft and other windows based games.  I'm also "knock on wood" running Beryl, with kiba dock, it crashes the window manager occasionally but for the most part is stable enough to use
[08:27] <nothlit> Bray, i said cvs
[08:27] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; are you still there?
[08:27] <nothlit> Bray, go google how to get it
[08:27] <arrenlex> yoshig3: It refuses to give you 3D acceleration?
[08:27] <Bray> nothlit, so I take it it's free?
[08:27] <nothlit> Bray, the cvs compiled version is free
[08:27] <Bray> nothlit, aha, I see, thank you
[08:27] <aNi`> Hey yeah itz possible to have ubuntu on USB here is the wiki for it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[08:27] <christian1222> arrenlex: ok, that worked
[08:27] <christian1222> arrenlex: thanks again
[08:27] <arrenlex> christian1222: Glad to hear it :)
[08:27] <aNi`> arrenlex did u get dat?
[08:27] <aNi`> itz awesome
[08:28] <arrenlex> christian1222: No problem. Had the same problem trying to make it work with comedy central.
[08:28] <aNi`> i wish they roll off a automated installer
[08:28] <aNi`> but the wiki is pretty good
[08:28] <shoby> hi
[08:28] <arrenlex> aNi`: I told you it was possible. Have fun!
[08:28] <arrenlex> !hi | shoby
[08:28] <ubotu> shoby: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:28] <shoby> any one chatting
[08:28] <yoshig3> arrenlex: No, I get 3d acceleration, but it's EXTREMELY laggy. Like, say I try to do something as simple as scroll a webpage or xchat's chat. it is extremely laggy.
[08:28] <arrenlex> shoby: In a channel with 843 people, yes, lots are chatting.
[08:29] <arrenlex> yoshig3: That's NOT normal. o_O
[08:29] <yoshig3> jb0nd38372: I'm using beta.
[08:29] <arrenlex> yoshig3: Is it like that right now? What does "glxinfo | grep ender" say?
[08:29] <arrenlex> yoshig3: If it's like that, you're better off using the open-source nv driver.
[08:30] <nothlit> shoby, if you need help, just state your question, if you want to chat, you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:30] <jb0nd38372> yoshig3: hmm which Nvidia card?  Before getting this one I was using a 6200 turbocache, and it ran things ok.. Hardware 3d accel worked, too, using the same drivers
[08:30] <yoshig3> jb0nd38372: nVidia GeForce4 MX 4000 128MB DDR PCI
[08:31] <yoshig3> arrenlex: But aren't those super unstable? and glxinfo | grep render or ender?
[08:31] <arrenlex> yoshig3: ender, because I forget if the r is a capital or not so I just leave it off. =P
[08:31] <snax> the nv driver is stable, just not accelerated
[08:31] <snax> afaik
[08:31] <arrenlex> yoshig3: the nv driver is a lot more stable than the nvidia driver. But not accelerated.
[08:31] <nothlit> yoshig3, you're using the 9742?
[08:32] <jb0nd38372> yoshig3: while you and arrenlex talk, i'm gonna google and see what I can find, I have another machine with that card, never even thought about linux on it, maybe i'll figure out something too :)
[08:32] <yoshig3> jb0nd38372: thanks
[08:32] <yoshig3> arrenlex: it says yes I get direct rendering and then displays my card.
[08:32] <yoshig3> nothlit: No, 9329, I can't find the 9742.
[08:32] <kelvie> Anyone here tried using a separate X session for running games?
[08:33] <nothlit> yoshig3, 9239 is definitely not beta
[08:33] <VMT2007> a better question is has anyone tried playing games
[08:33] <kelvie> eh?
[08:33] <yoshig3> nothlit: Well that's what it said lol, see?
[08:33] <jb0nd38372> yoshig3: No problem.. heck i'm new at linux / ubuntu too, but i'm determined and google / trial and error hasn't failed me yet... "kock on something"
[08:33] <yoshig3> !nvidia
[08:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:33] <nothlit> yoshig3, 9631 is the latest stable
[08:33] <yoshig3> nothlit: I have 9629, my fault.
[08:34] <kelvie> VMT2007: ?
[08:34] <sc4ttrbrain> i stupidly rewrite /boot/grub/default  ,should i copy that file from other ppl,or i need to reinstall grub ?
[08:34] <yoshig3> nothlit: Where can I get the 9631 and how do I install it?
[08:34] <nothlit> yoshig3, theres a non beta of that now btw
[08:34] <yoshig3> jb0nd38372: I don't know what to do, and what do you mean google/ trial and error?
[08:35] <nothlit> !amaranth | yoshig3
[08:35] <ubotu> yoshig3: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[08:35] <ndlovu> my (edgy) system seems pretty unstable after applying some recent updates. anybody else experiencing the same thing?
[08:35] <yoshig3> nothlit: see, it only shows 9629.
[08:35] <nothlit> yoshig3, that version should be the non beta version though
[08:35] <yoshig3> nothlit: I am using those. That's where I installed from
[08:36] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; did I loose you?
[08:36] <sc4ttrbrain> anyone...give me your /boot/grub/default ..please
[08:36] <nothlit> yoshig3, oh then I would recommend using the nv drivers, downgrading, or asking nvnews
[08:36] <jb0nd38372> jb0nd38372: I mean I use google to extremes and try something, if it doesn't work or breaks, and i'm unable to back track, i'll just start fresh, even if that means reloading.  Google is a powerfull search engine if you use the right syntax and search strings
[08:36] <yoshig3> nothlit: nv drivers don't work
[08:36] <nothlit> yoshig3, i suppose you could get 9631 from nvidia directly
[08:36] <nothlit> yoshig3, you mean your install started with no x?
[08:36] <jb0nd38372> lmao... but apparently I like talking to myself too
[08:37] <yoshig3> nothlit: If I try to use my nVidia card, yes
[08:37] <sc4ttrbrain> i stupidly rewrite /boot/grub/default  ,should i copy that file from other ppl,or i need to reinstall grub ?
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: sorry, I'm at the office so I got busy with someone.
[08:37] <nothlit> ndlovu, it might be better if you could better describe your instabilities
[08:37] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; that's no problem I hope I'm not disturbing you
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: okay what you need to do, is to install the following packages hpijs hpijs-ppds linuxprinting.org-ppds and hpoj
[08:38] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; can I do that with the package manager?
[08:39] <sc4ttrbrain> anyone just give me your /boot/grub/default ! please
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: once you have done that, then sudo hp-setup -a ip.address.of.printer
[08:39] <rapid> sc4ttrbrain, grubconfig should make one
[08:39] <nothlit> sc4ttrbrain, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh grub
[08:39] <nothlit> oh
[08:39] <yoshig3> nothlit: any ideas?
[08:39] <nothlit> nm listen to rapid's advice
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: yes, just type sudo apt-get install hpijs hpijs-ppds linuxprinting.org-ppds hpoj and hit enter
[08:39] <ndlovu> okay, let me rephrase. after applying some recent updates (which seemed to focus on gnome and gtk), nautilus seems to freeze very frequently, especially it seems when browsing samba mounted shares. anyone else experiencing that?
[08:40] <sc4ttrbrain> rapid: grubconfig can fix my stupidly written /boot/grub/default ?
[08:40] <nothlit> sc4ttrbrain, you do know the configuration file location is /boot/grub/menu.lst, and not default right?
[08:41] <sc4ttrbrain> nothlit yes
[08:41] <sc4ttrbrain> nothlit: ,actually its bit complicated, let me tell u
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> sc4ttrbrain: grub-set-default will fix /boot/grub/default
[08:41] <familia> hi
[08:41] <yoshig3> nothlit: No ideas? Well I guess ubuntu just isn't for me, it's been working other than the graphics, but I can't live without my games. Gonna have to find me another windows CD.
[08:41] <kintaro0e> hi guys...how to redirect lsof output to a file?
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: lsof > somefile.txt
[08:42] <familia> i have problems with my geforce
[08:42] <nepali|busy> rage,
[08:42] <kelvie> Anyone here know if only one X server can have DRI on at any one time?
[08:42] <drcode> hi all
[08:42] <familia> i have ubuntu
[08:42] <drcode> I have computer without internet
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: are you just trying to search it?
[08:43] <nothlit> kintaro0e, if you need to write it to someplace other than your home folder you need to use '| sudo tee file.txt'
[08:43] <Bray> Hm, anyone know how to actually download the cedega cvs binaries? I found a tutorial on how to install them, but nothing on downloading them
[08:43] <drcode> is there cd  that I can download packges for easyubuntu?
[08:43] <nothlit> drcode, describe how you connect to the internet and you network setup
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> Bray: I suppose you would check them out of cvs using the cvs command line tool.
[08:43] <drcode> I use modem 33k
[08:44] <yoshig3> nothlit: So you start helping me then quit? Sweet.
[08:44] <kintaro0e> ok
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> drcode: do not use easyubuntu.
[08:44] <drcode> I will be easy if I can download dvd or cd?
[08:44] <Bray> fyrestrtr: When I tried doing the cvs command, it said "Command not found"
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> Bray: you should install it then, sudo apt-get install cvs
[08:44] <drcode> also automtix download from internet
[08:44] <nothlit> Bray, try another howto, or use #linux
[08:44] <drcode> I have xubuntu
[08:44] <nothlit> !compile | Bray
[08:44] <ubotu> Bray: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:45] <nothlit> !automatix | drcode
[08:45] <ubotu> drcode: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:45] <Bray> Well hot dang, cvs installed
[08:45] <Bray> Easier than I thought it would be...
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> Bray: generally, you'll find that with ubuntu :)
[08:45] <drcode> so ?
[08:45] <drcode> what I can use?
[08:45] <drcode> is there dvd of ubuntu packges?
[08:45] <Bray> fyrestrtr: Been using it for only a week and i already love it
[08:45] <drcode> that I can download?
[08:46] <igor_> hi, could anybody tell me where could i find a good presentation of linux
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> drcode: for multimedia stuff, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:46] <yoshig3> Can someone please provide me wiht some help?
[08:46] <nothlit> fyrestrtr, easyubuntu uses repo's, its not recommended but its not recommended against
[08:46] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; you sir are a genius!
[08:46] <drcode> is there ubuntu dvd for packges?
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> drcode: no.
[08:47] <drcode> so I can use it to install packges without internet?
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> tom_kelleher: got it working then?
[08:47] <Bray> fyrestrtr: How do I compile cvs? Or do I need to?
[08:47] <ubox> hey all
[08:47] <GeneralZarkawi> Bray, no compile, install
[08:47] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; prints perfectly!
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> Bray: no, you don't. Its installed already. Continue with the instructions on checking out the cvs tree.
[08:47] <drcode> k
[08:47] <drcode> thnx
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> drcode: Yes, there is.  You can download it from the ubuntu web site
[08:47] <ubox> !openswam
[08:47] <Bray> fyrestrtr: Thanks a lot, you've been a big help
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> drkm: It also comes with the Ubuntu Book
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openswam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> !openswan | ubotu
[08:48] <ubotu> openswan: IPSEC utilities for Openswan. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.4.5+dfsg-0.2 (edgy), package size 1536 kB, installed size 5568 kB
[08:48] <kishan> drcode u can dowload the packages individually and install
[08:48] <ubox> thnks
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: okay, I'm going to try to help you.
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: first thing, I need you to post your Xorg.0.log to pastebin.
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: you'll find it in /var/log/
[08:49] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: brb.
[08:50] <x-r00t-x> hello . can anyone tell me how to format memory card ?
[08:50] <rapid> igor_, take a look at youtube and search for xgl :)
[08:51] <rapid> igor_: or www.onetux.com has a great XGL graphics video
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> x-r00t-x: mount it first (by plugging it in, and then making sure it shows up on your desktop). Then use gparted to format it.
[08:51] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36788/
[08:51] <x-r00t-x> fyrestrtr,  tnx :P
[08:51] <tom_kelleher> fyrestrtr; you wouln't know how I could scan from the printer would you?
[08:51] <nothlit> fyrestrtr, format something that is mounted? ^.-
[08:51] <ThePub> which process is the nautilus-cd-burner part of?
[08:52] <nothlit> ThePub, could you rephrase that?
[08:52] <Bray> fyrestrtr: You're rather popular tonight it seems
[08:52] <x-r00t-x> fyrestrtr, its doesnt work
[08:52] <gotit> sudo: alien:command not found , what should I do
[08:52] <nothlit> gotit, sudo aptitude install alien
[08:52] <x-r00t-x> gotit, sudo apt-get install alien
[08:53] <expo> hi I am trying to upgrade from hoary to edgy and I got the following problem while upgrading: problems while excecuting /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_powerpc.deb
[08:53] <nothlit> gotit, alien is not something that is particularly safe to use so if there are other alternatives for you, you should take them
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> Bray: yeah, if only it were with the ladies -- then I wouldn't be sitting here helping you slobs :P
[08:53] <gotit> dont have internet access on ubuntu comp, should i try to search for alien file
[08:53] <nothlit> expo, you need to upgrade to dapper first
[08:53] <x-r00t-x> fyrestrtr,  its works :P
[08:53] <x-r00t-x> tnx
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> expo: don't think that's a possible upgrade path.
[08:53] <igor_> rapid, no i meant in ooo word processr style
[08:54] <x-r00t-x> fyrestrtr, i found the memory card but i cant format it
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> nothlit: sure it is possible :)
[08:54] <gotit> nothlit: why alien is not safe, its on the web help to use it
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: pastebin the output of glxinfo
[08:54] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36788/
[08:54] <rapid> igor_, theres heaps of documentation all over the web, try google linux
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> x-r00t-x: is it read only?
[08:54] <nothlit> gotit, because rpm packages are designed for a specific system and setup, which may not be the same as how ubuntu is set up
[08:54] <ThePub> nothlit: /usr/lib/nautilus-cd-burning/mapping-daemon is running.  tbh, idk what it is, but I imagine it's part of the nautilus-cd-burner package (which apt confirms), so therefore it must have something to do with burning cd's.. I have no burning, so the conlussion is it must be an unecessary process.
[08:55] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36789/
[08:55] <mike> #tor
[08:56] <x-r00t-x> fyrestrtr, no
[08:56] <gotit> nothlit: i am trying to install my intel graphic card , cause i think some screen savers are too heave for it
[08:57] <nothlit> gotit, well you definitely do NOT want to install any drivers with alien
[08:57] <gotit> nothlit: what should i do than
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: is your internal video card disabled?
[08:58] <nothlit> gotit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video?highlight=%28intel%29
[08:58] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: I believe it is, it's set to PCI in the bios, but is there anything else I can do to ensure that it's disabled?
[08:58] <x-r00t-x> fyrestrtr, i am done :P
[08:59] <x-r00t-x> tnx
[08:59] <rapid> theres a new network if anyones interested irc.moonet.org check it out, its only small but just starting out. #linux
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: did you specify the pci id of your nvidia card in the device section of xorg.conf?
[09:00] <Bray> This is more confusing than I thought it would be... alright, so according to the amazing fyrestrtr, it's compiled and installed and all that jazz... how might one go about playing WoW? And would it work if I had it installed in Wine to use it in cedega?
[09:00] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: yes
[09:00] <GeneralZarkawi> !moo
[09:00] <gotit> nothlit: i did that for the resolution, and it fixed my problem , but some screen savers are not running fine
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <nothlit> Bray, you'll need to install it in cedega i believe
[09:01] <jamesbrose> How do I find the UUID of a harddrive?
[09:01] <nothlit> !uuid | jamesbrose
[09:01] <ubotu> jamesbrose: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:01] <Bray> nothlit, is it basically the same as installing it in wine? Eg. cedega installer.exe
[09:01] <nothlit> Bray, try man cedega ... i wouldn't know
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> Bray: to play WoW, you need to read http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5606&iTestingId=7491
[09:02] <mista> can anyone tell of a good hardware room, having problem witha mobo and need some help on it
[09:02] <Bray> fyrestrtr to the rescue! Haha, thanks
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> mista: There's a ##hardware I think - sometimes helps
[09:02] <thoreauputic> mista: #hardware ?
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: hrmm....what kind of monitor do you have?
[09:03] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: Any ideas?
[09:03] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: Crappy Compaq MV 540, but the monitor shouldn't make any difference.
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: is it LCD or CRT?
[09:03] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: CRT
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: show me the device section that you have for it.
[09:04] <Frogbert> hello
[09:04] <Syco54645> so i was upgrading to eft and it died on me, then my power went out.  it died right at the x upgrade so now i am stuck.  can anyone give me any help?
[09:04] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: Device section?
[09:04] <Frogbert> Could someone please help me with a language/keyboard problem I am having?
[09:05] <huXfluX> hello! which encryption is better? blowfish or serpent ?
[09:05] <jpiccolo> you dont have a backup of your xconfig
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: from xorg.conf -- where you identify the monitor.
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> Syco54645: just re-start the upgrade, it will pick up where it left off.
[09:05] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: Lemme just paste my xorg.conf.
[09:06] <Syco54645> fyrestrtr: oh no it wont... i have restarted it 3 or 4 times.  always throws the same error.
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> Syco54645: and that is....???
[09:07] <Syco54645> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_i386.deb (--unpack)
[09:07] <Syco54645> that is the start of it, i dont want to flood
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> Syco54645: delete that file
[09:07] <RaFromBRC> anyone know why my PPC live cd would keep spitting out "authentication token is no longer valid; new one required" ?
[09:07] <huXfluX> hellllllllo?
[09:07] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36790/
[09:07] <Bray> fyrestrtr: That site you showed me is rather helpful when it comes to Wine, but I need help installing and running WoW with cedega cvs
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> !patience | huXfluX
[09:07] <ubotu> huXfluX: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> Syco54645: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%2a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_i386.deb
[09:08] <elfreakz> i cannot remove hdd icon on my desktop?
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> Bray: cedega is wine with a few tweaks.
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> huXfluX: Bah, that wasn't what I was hoping for.  If nobody answers, it probably means they don't know.  Try asking in a little while when some more people have joined.
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> Bray: to get cedega up and running, you need to download the source via cvs, and then compile and build it.
[09:08] <RaFromBRC> it's happening on both dapper and edgy w/ CDs that have already worked... but now neither of them will let me in
[09:08] <Syco54645> fyrestrtr: i did that and it didnt work still.  it is complaining with this trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package xmame-sdl
[09:09] <Syco54645> and i cannot remove the xmame-sdl package
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: ah, I think I found your problem.
[09:09] <Bray> fyrestrtr, Ah, I see... how might I get the source? I found a howto on compiling and building, so that's not a problem
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> Syco54645: hrmm ... you are quickly venturing into a zone that I like to call 'reinstall from scratch zone' :P
[09:09] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: If you have, I will elaboratly sex you.
[09:09] <Syco54645> Bray: cedega isnt as good as wine is now
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: now I don't know if I want to tell you.
[09:09] <Syco54645> fyrestrtr: i really hate upgrading package based distros
[09:10] <Syco54645> Bray: wine can play alot of games that cedega cannot
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: have you tried  sudo dpkg --config -a  and or sudo apt-get -f install ?
[09:10] <Frogbert> does anyone here know anything about getting a japanese keyboard to work correctly?
[09:10] <Bray> syco54645, WoW crashes and dies with the 1.12 update, and I've tried all the tricks, so I figured that I'd try cedega
[09:10] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: the apt-get -f install doesnt work
[09:10] <jpiccolo> cedega isnt free either is it
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: try the other one :)
[09:10] <Syco54645> Bray: the cedega source is really old
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: okay here is your problem, your refresh rates for your monitor are wrong. Your monitor's horizontal is 31.5-54 and vertical is 50-120 -- change xorg.conf to reflect that, save it, and restart X.
[09:11] <Bray> jpiccolo: It isn't unless you get the cvs, which is what I'm working on doing
[09:11] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: --config is an invalid option
[09:11] <elfreakz> how to remove the hdd icon on desktop?
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> Bray: for WoW you have to install the latest wine from source with patches. I had to do it when I was running it on Dapper.
[09:11] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: I wondered why I couldn't get more than 53hz in 800x600. That could be the rpoblem....
[09:12] <jpiccolo> Bray, oh ok, you search the forums?
[09:12] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: I'm not exactly sure how to edit it properly
[09:12] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: ah sorry - sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: hit alt+f2, then type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:12] <jpiccolo> what is a 64bit PCI-X slot?
[09:12] <Bray> fyrestrtr: So I can't just go into, say, Add/Remove and download and install it via that?
[09:13] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: its ok, but the process was halted because of too many errors
[09:13] <Bray> jpiccolo: No, actually, someone here told me about it... I can't remember who though
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> Bray: no, its the price you have to pay to play WoW (other than the subscription, of course)
[09:13] <RaFromBRC> nobody has seen this when booting from a live cd: "Authentication token is no longer valid; new one required.  You are required to change your password immediately (root enforced)"?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: hmm - your system is very sick, methinks
[09:13] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: well yes, it all happened because it told me to move the bin folder for the xorg upgrade
[09:14] <Bray> fyrestrtr: Well darn. So all I would need to do is install Wine via source, compile it and all that good stuff, then I can play WoW?
[09:14] <Syco54645> the update died and never started back up since
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: you want to change HorizSync and VertRefresh lines to reflect the numbers I posted. Yours should look like HorizSync 31 - 54 VertRefresh 50 - 120
[09:14] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: It's not allowing me to edit xorg.conf becaues I accidentally typed in my password wrong earler. What can I do to reenter it?
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> Bray: aye.
[09:14] <jpiccolo> i would check the forums and google, WoW is a very popular game, i would think there are how-tos out there
[09:14] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: can you move it back ? sounds odd unless you got the command wrong...
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: close the program, then hit alt+f2, type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try it again -- with the right password.
[09:14] <Bray> fyrestrtr: Ahh, ok, you have been a hufe help! Danke sehr
[09:15] <Bray> *huge
[09:15] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: what do you mean move it back?
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> glad to be of hefp
[09:15] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: reverse the command that caused the problem
[09:15] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: you *did* take notes of what you did , right?
[09:16] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: oh i did reverse the move, and it is still borked.  it wont let me remove xmame-sdl no way no how.  can i force a remove
[09:16] <Bray> fyrestrtr: Ahhhh, now I see why you tossed me to that site! It has a nice section named "How to install Wine so World of Warcraft works"
[09:16] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: i remember what i did yes
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> Bray: amazing, isn't it? :P
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> Syco54645: are you upgrading from Dapper to Edgy?
[09:16] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: didn't work.
[09:16] <Bray> fyrestrtr: Indeed it is. Thanks again
[09:16] <Syco54645> fyrestrtr: yes i am
[09:16] <jpiccolo> damn server boards are expensive
[09:16] <Syco54645> fyrestrtr: i was using the update-manager
[09:16] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: hmm I can't remember the command but it's a dpkg --force-overwrite or something of the kind - check in man dpkg
[09:17] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: Had to nano it =\
[09:17] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: will do
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: well as long as you get it to edit and save.
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: now restart X with the saved settings, and note the FPS.
[09:18] <bobby> whats the difference between aricrack and aircrack-ng
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> bobby: the same as between Star Trek, and Star Trek: The Next Generation
[09:19] <rapid> I agree.
[09:19] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: so "31.5 - 54.0" and "50.0 - 120.0"?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: you mean even more lame ? /me runs  ;p
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: yes, but sans quotes
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> thoreauputic: lol I was waiting for someone to say that.
[09:20] <thoreauputic> :D
[09:20] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: well that didnt work either
[09:20] <bobby> has anyone ever got kicked of this channel?
[09:20] <advcomp2019> i am having issues with ubuntu 6.10 on a compaq v4000 going into hibernate
[09:20] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: Sorry to keep bothering you, but sans quotes? There were no quotes in the xorg.conf before I chaned it.
[09:20] <thoreauputic> bobby: oh yes
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> yoshig3: yes, you typed them in your reply. I just wanted to make sure that you don't type the quotes in xorg.conf, otherwise X won't start.
[09:21] <nante> greets to all... how do i reconfigure my cdrom? i can not access it in xubuntu but i can access it in windows
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> bobby: you can try to find out ;)
[09:21] <paolo>  Hi.. I've edited fstab and changed noauto to auto for the cdrom; however it doesn't mount automatically the cdrom yet...
[09:21] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: hmm - out of ideas then - basically sounds like you need to identify the package then make the other one overwrite where needed
[09:21] <OkinawaInstructo>  /msg nickserv register betzold
[09:21] <yoshig3> fyrestrtr: alright, saving, rebooting....I'll tell you what happens. If x doesn't start, though, I'm screwed, so I won't be back if it doesn't start.
[09:21] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: sometimes the easiest thing
[09:21] <Syco54645> is the one that you never try
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> OkinawaInstructo: might want to change the password now.
[09:21] <Syco54645> i am an idiot
[09:22] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: ?
[09:22] <Lam_> does suspend work properly?
[09:22] <Syco54645> thoreauputic: dpkg --remove xmame-sdl
[09:22] <Lam_> dapper would usually freeze
[09:22] <Syco54645> i thought i tried it before i came in
[09:22] <Syco54645> guess i didnt
[09:22] <bobby>  fyrestrtr  na im good
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> Syco54645: ...
[09:22] <thoreauputic> Syco54645: heheh - ah well
[09:23] <advcomp2019> i had 6.06 and it worked just fine
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> nante: cdroms don't require much configuring, other than the odd case of scsi cdroms.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> nante: what is the problem?
[09:23] <Syco54645> fyrestrtr: what is the ... for?  i figured it out eventually.  not bad for during finals week and needing the box to get some code off of for class... my term project.  you would think i would have backed that up first.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> Syco54645: the naked dancing.
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> Syco54645: and I would have assumed you tried the --remove already :)
[09:24] <Syco54645> fyrestrtr: oh well that was called for
[09:24] <Syco54645> i thought i did
[09:24] <nante> fyrestrtr: i used that cdrom drive to install xubuntu 6.10, but i can no longer read from it now... i tried to boot windows, and i can access it fine
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> well glad you are on your way :)
[09:24] <Syco54645> i was so mad that i logged in as root just so that i didnt have to keep doing sudo
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> now please put your clothes on.  Why didn't I think of that! I'll tell you why! Because I'm a bit of an idiot, lol
[09:26] <advcomp2019> can people see my text?
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> nante: could it be a bad cd?