[00:00] <cylex> ObrienDave: how so
[00:00] <cylex> hays: from 13.04 , to 13.10 update-manager -d
[00:00] <cylex> hays: but its better to backup your files, and do a fresh install
[00:00] <Ari-Yang> hays: if you're on 12.04, then you're going to have to upgrade to 13.04 then upgrade from there to 13.10
[00:00] <hays> cylex: its telling me to update to 14.04
[00:01] <Ari-Yang> hays: be aware though, 13.10 might have some bugs....
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> cylex, You are missing the point you have to know what the setup is to install correctly, and we do to to help.
[00:01] <cylex> hays: don't, its buggy
[00:01] <hays> cylex: there's no option for 13.10
[00:01] <cylex> hays: apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:01] <cylex> hays: apt-get upgrade
[00:01] <ObrienDave> cylex... OMG wilee-nilee is trying to help you. follow HIS instructions
[00:01] <cylex> I don't see Wille 's instrudction\
[00:02] <ObrienDave> *gives up and walks away*
[00:02] <nownot> trying to setup a reverse proxy without any luck, anyone have a few min to spare to help out? let me know what I need to post
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> cylex, what is your native language?
[00:02] <cylex> wilee-nilee: guju
[00:03] <Ari-Yang> !upgrade | hays
[00:03] <hays> so if update-manager is forcing me to 14.04 is there another supported upgrade path
[00:03] <cylex> wilee-nilee: gujarati
[00:03] <cylex> hays: you want to upgrade to 14.04?
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> !in | cylex
[00:03] <cylex> hays: or you want to do a dist-upgrade
[00:04] <cylex> wilee-nilee: I live in US, but why are you forwarding me there
[00:04] <cylex> wilee-nilee: heh
[00:04] <sisterFister> so I installed knapshot to get a screenshot. Print sc key didn't seem to be auto saving to anywhere. Anyway any insight as to why my terminal letter spacing looks this way? http://imgur.com/085KN3r    I'm using Lubuntu by the way.
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> cylex: he wants to upgrade to 13.10
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> :|
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> cylex, I have been very clear with, however you seem to not understand, that's why.
[00:05] <cylex> then just type update-manager
[00:05] <cylex> without -d
[00:05] <ObrienDave> *nibbles fingers*
[00:05] <cylex> Willie-nileee: You said there isn't a way to dual boot, but ObrienDave said willee-nileee is helping you and he knows how to dual boot with win8
[00:05] <cylex> it seems like you guys don't want to help
[00:06] <cylex> anyone can help me with Dual boot, with Win8 + Ubuntu
[00:06] <hasanibrahim> hello, i enabled high-contrast while i was trying to install ubuntu for the first time, and i now couldn't find how to disable it.. I'm sorry, i'm so new on ubuntu
[00:06] <ObrienDave> cylex... seems like YOU'RE not paying attention
[00:07] <cylex> ObrienDave: he says you can't
[00:07] <LjL> wilee-nilee: the only language allowed in #ubuntu-in is English
[00:07] <ObrienDave> HE DID NOT SAY THAT
[00:07] <cylex> yes he did
[00:07] <ObrienDave> whatever, bye
[00:07] <Ari-Yang> !dual-boot > cylex
[00:07] <minimec> sisterFister: Change your font and use one that has 'mono' in its title. For the terminal you need a font with one fixed space for each 'sign'
[00:07] <hays> now update-manager -d is telling me to upgrade to 12.10
[00:07] <cylex> thanks, Ari-Yang :>
[00:07] <hays> it seems it gives pseudorandom recommendations :)
[00:08] <cylex> hays: what version you are on
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> hays: if you're on 12.04, you'll have to upgrade to 12.10
[00:08] <hays> 12.04
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> hays: then upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04
[00:08] <sisterFister> minimec: you just saved my life
[00:08] <hays> trying to get to 13.10
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> hays: then from 13.04 upgrade to 13.10
[00:08] <hays> Ari-Yang: ahh ok
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> hays: or you can just download 13.10 iso and install it using that
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> :I
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> LjL, I didn't know that, well they wont communicate with them either then. ;)
[00:09] <minimec> sisterFister: I do that every day...  ;)
[00:09] <sisterFister> pro
[00:09] <ObrienDave> wilee-nilee> cylex, No, it is just a different type of install.
[00:09] <hays> Ari-Yang: yeah that may or may not be faster
[00:09] <hays> based on my internet connection heh
[00:09] <ObrienDave> that does NOT say it can't be done
[00:10] <hays> and I have no CDROM drive so that complicates things perhaps
[00:10] <hays> ill just do it this way...
[00:10] <sisterFister> minimec: would you have an idea as to why i can use something like liberation sans in ubuntu terminal but not in lubuntu lxde terminal?
[00:10] <fishscene> This yields some info on Windows 8 and Ubuntu dual-booting and some of the issues: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  some terminal apps filter out all the non-mono fonts. because anything thats not mono - can look totally unreadable
[00:11] <cylex> sisterfister: stop trolling
[00:12] <sisterFister> ty Dr_Willis
[00:12] <minimec> sisterFister: Probably because the lxde cannot use ttf fonts. So you only have some basic 'old system fonts' available.
[00:12] <hays> is that sister in the familiar or religious sense
[00:12] <minimec> sisterFister:... the lxde terminal, I mean
[00:12] <sisterFister> hays: religious
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. lxterm here seems to call 'xterm;
[00:13] <sisterFister> Really liking lubuntu so far though. Much quicker on this laptop that I had in the closet.
[00:13] <sisterFister> How about setting global keybindings? I googled around but didn't really find what I was looking for.
[00:13] <sisterFister> in lubuntu
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> oh wait.. lxterm is not lxde's terminal. ;P
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> gnome 3.10 makes saucy really saucy.
[00:14] <hays> i am trying to work out the implications of a sister fister in terms of biblical interpretations of consumation
[00:14] <hays> quite possible this is green-lighted behaviour. anyway
[00:15] <sisterFister> hays: nun who has a stripper name.
[00:15] <minimec> sisterFister: This is a cool tool for keybindigs 'outside' of the window manager http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=xbindkeys&searchon=names
[00:16] <sisterFister> minimec: nice ty!
[00:16] <yoda_jake> Hello, I'm new to Linux! Nice to meet you all! Hello world!
[00:16] <sisterFister> lol
[00:16] <moppy> I'd like to report a bug and I have no idea how to use the tracker: Upgrader lies about how much disk space is needed to upgrade to 13.10. Had 50 MB more than required, it crashed due to zero disk space during upload. (Machine with SSD).
[00:16] <minimec> sisterFister: the 'config' package is the GUI
[00:16] <moppy> s/upload/upgrade
[00:17] <pfifo> so let me get this straight... my subversion client from 13.10 wants me to upgrade my repo, but  now in 12.04 I cant upgrade my subversion client to the same version that 13.10 has, forcing me to keep 2 different working copies in my home folder. This is major problem here, im considering reporting this as a bug before I compile from source.
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> moppy, sometimes the data space is read differently in different apps, you should not have it that full anyway.
[00:18] <pfifo> "Ubunt, linux for people (but screw developers)"
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO_> pfifo one good reason to switch to git ;)
[00:19] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO_: my hosting provider uses subversion, and im happy with their price
[00:19] <moppy> wilee-nilee, I had approximately 1. 3 GB free. This is kind of normal for small SSD laptops.
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> moppy, hardly
[00:19] <hasanibrahim> hello, i enabled high-contrast while i was trying to install ubuntu for the first time, and i now couldn't find how to disable it.. I'm sorry, i'm so new on ubuntu, so can you help please
[00:19] <hays> the process for reporting a bug is usually to (1) report the bug through official channels (2) get flamed by a low level dev for some real or imaginary mistake you've made. (4) address the mistake (5) watch dupes being assigned to your bug (6) eventually the software in queston will be deprecated (7) bug will be marked WONTFIX.   ok in all seriousness there should be a bug reporting system pretty easily finable via google
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO_> pfifo, ahh, your not using a vps?
[00:20] <hays> I've omitted step 3, which is a surprise
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> people may fill them up but that is bad practice
[00:20] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO_: I use a free service that provides subversion, if I use my VPS and dont pay the bill they delete my precious code
[00:21] <project0101> lol hays
[00:21] <moppy> wilee-nilee, 16GB SSD with two OS; Ubuntu has about just under 2 GB left after a fresh install.
[00:21] <hays> i have a bug i opened in thunderbird in something like 2001 that is still open and still debated.
[00:21] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO_: or if I do pay my bill and do something stupid, I delete my code
[00:21] <hays> I finally had to unsuscribe to the bug because I don't use thunderbird anymore and it was making me depressed
[00:21] <project0101> ubuntu is infested with bugs
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO_> pfifo, i getcha
[00:22] <project0101> hi
[00:22] <project0101> anyone here?/
[00:22] <moppy> wilee-nilee, doubltless you will say "get a bigger SSD" but thing is a chip on the main board
[00:22] <project0101> moppy
[00:22] <project0101> are you a windows user?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> moppy, right, now you can read my mind, lol.
[00:22] <moppy> project0101, not regularly, no. the other OS is chromeOS
[00:23] <lgom> hi everybody, i have some noob asks.
[00:24] <moppy> no real stress, the data isn't local, i'm running the system restore ATM and will reinstal from fresh
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO_> moppy, why not get rid of chrome os? kinda pointless having it when you can have chrome in a real os is it not?
[00:24] <hays> moppy: the problem with your SSD is that you're holding it wrong.
[00:24] <moppy> hitsujiTMO_, you're welcome to tell me how do that :-) bearing in mind chromebooks have firmware designed to boot it
[00:24] <fishscene> Igom: Feel free to ask a question.
[00:24] <moppy> hays, clearly! i agree!
[00:24] <lgom> i have a 2gb ram, 200 hd, core 2 duo 1.50 Ghz laptop and i want to know what's the best distro i can use?
[00:25] <lgom> sometimes ubuntu get lag.
[00:25] <hays> moppy: Some of the chromebooks can be put into a developer mode and have the OS wiped I believe
[00:25] <hays> moppy: but I think this incurs a 5 second delay at boot time or something
[00:25] <ObrienDave> lgom... I suggest Xubuntu
[00:25] <moppy> hays, well you have to be in developer mode that to even get ubuntu on there in the first place
[00:25] <fishscene> lgom: You can try some of the lighter Ubuntu flavors such as Xubuntu or lubuntu
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO_> lgon, ubuntu might be better if you disable background blur in unity search
[00:25] <hays> if you are concerned about ubuntu being to "heavy" yeah xubuntu is a good choice
[00:26] <moppy> lo0k im not upset, im saying the installer lies about disk space required.
[00:26] <hays> there's an xfce mint also >ducks<
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO_> lgom, what DE would you normally use?
[00:26] <ObrienDave> *throws a trout at hays* ;)
[00:26] <lgom> thats a great info, thanks.
[00:27] <hays> but everyone lies about disk space. that's a long standing tradition in the PC community
[00:27] <lgom> sorry hitsujiTMO_ what's DE means?
[00:27] <lgom> sorry @hitsujiTMO_ what's DE means?
[00:27] <moppy> Igom: desktop environment
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO_> lgom, desktop environment
[00:27] <ObrienDave> lgom... Desktop Environment
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO_> lgom: i.e. KDE, gnome, xfce, etc...
[00:28] <hays> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[00:28] <hays> this URI points to brief guidelines for bug reporting in ubuntu
[00:28] <lgom> gnome on ubuntu 13.10
[00:29] <moppy> hays, I see now it is clearly not a bug as you say everyone lies about disk space ... i'll pass on the report :-)
[00:29] <hays> hehe moppy im mostly joking around, feel free to try the bug reporting process. some projects are better than others
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO_> lgom, ubuntu by default has unity (unity sits on top of a hacked up gnome2) ... you can also get a install disk with gnome 3 instad of unity
[00:29] <moppy> erm i mean i will pass; not i will pass it on :)
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> lgom, Install htop and check whats running when it lags, and don;t overdrive the hardware if you are, install a lighter desktop if needed.
[00:30] <moppy> Igom: cor 2 duo ismore than enough for unity, as is your ram
[00:30] <ObrienDave> moppy, it is not necessarily a lie, some calculate in 1,000 character blocks. Some use 1024 blocks. can make quite a difference in the end
[00:30] <hays> and with the quality of installers getting markedly better in recent years, someone might actually care to fix a bug like that
[00:31] <moppy> Igom: the issue you migt have is 3d acceleration
[00:31] <lgom> moppy its enough? i have 2gb for ram
[00:31] <lgom> i think that i can install and other ubuntu flavor, i like xubuntu.
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO_> lgom, more than enough, as i said earlier, easiest thing to cut down some of the chug in unity is to disable background blur (do it in unity-tweak-tool)
[00:32] <lgom> but i really likes ubuntu looks (default)
[00:32] <moppy> two gig ram is more than enough, really. your problem will be unity needs 3d acceleration from the GPU.
[00:32] <hays> lgom: im running straight ubuntu and its fine on this celeron 2gb machine
[00:33] <hays> lgom: but applications are not always very snappy at loading. a different wm probably won't change that much
[00:33] <hays> maybe a little if it frees up some memory
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO_, unity sits on top of gnome 3 as a plugin on compiz
[00:33] <tempesta> anybody knows about the citadel server coredump problem described in bug 911732?
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO_> wilee-nilee: is it 3? ok, thought it was 2 since it looked so close to it
[00:34] <Ari-Yang> [20:10:02] <hays> and I have no CDROM drive so that complicates things perhaps ----> uhhh, bootable usb
[00:34] <Ari-Yang> .___.
[00:34] <hays> Ari-Yang: yeah, i know.
[00:34] <moppy> hays you are running out of memory? what apps are you running? unity + a browser have a footprint of about 1 gig
[00:34] <hays> Ari-Yang: whenever I try that it ends up being annoying.. BIOS settings to fish around in, weird methods to make the USB stick, finding a USB stick in my pile that I can erase... etc :)
[00:35] <moppy> you can dd the iso straight to a usb stick
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO_, The fallback desktop is a pseudo gnome2 is all
[00:35] <hays> moppy: no, im fine i was just commenting that I have a weak, slow computer and it runs straight ubuntu fine.
[00:35] <hays> yeah that part is easier in linux.
[00:36] <bjsnider> could someone with unity run this command please: qdbus --session com.canonical.indicator.session
[00:36] <bjsnider> pastebin results
[00:36] <lgom> well i read that i can still running ubuntu with out problems. That's ok. I really love to wor on my laptop when i erase windows at all! XD
[00:36] <moppy> well on windows, there's a graphical usb creator you can download from a link on  the ubuntu site in the inatsllation guide
[00:36] <lgom> *work
[00:36] <hays> the other reason I'm not doing it is because this laptop has a pretty neat "restore to factory" feature built in that I don't want to accidentally corrupt/erase by doing a fresh install
[00:36] <moppy> igom: you might need to use a different desktop, but see how it goes. i dont know what GPU your machine has
[00:37] <hays> im __pretty__ sure its just a recovery partition, but im not sure because apt- sometimes gives me messages about it too
[00:38] <moppy> yay got chrome OS back running; just got to re-partition and install Saucy now
[00:38] <hays> and ASUS has apparently denied existence of this laptop model existing at all, so finding any sort of recovery disk is basically impossilble
[00:38] <lgom> uhmmm i don't now what gpu has. I think.
[00:40] <moppy> hrm they are up to 3.8 kernel, nice. i use the chrome kernel under the ubuntu desktop and usermode apps
[00:40] <hays> moppy: i think there is a 3.11 kernel floating around
[00:41] <hays> and by I think there is one, i mean I am using it
[00:41] <moppy> yea but you dont have a firmware that's locked to boot particular kernels unless you jump though many technical hoops
[00:41] <hays> heh
[00:42] <hays> yeah that's why I bought this POS instead ofa chromebook
[00:46] <tempesta> is there a solution for bug 911732 - citadel server crash?
[00:49] <lgom> btw i don't use a irc since... ufff, about 1997 or 1998!
[00:49] <lgom> on mIRC! XD
[00:51] <jhave> Hello
[00:52] <jhave> I have just upgrade to 13.10 but its use PHP5.5 and ioncube not support it
[00:52] <jhave> how do i change to PHP 5.4?
[00:52] <lgom> ...
[00:53] <jhave> or are there a another way to fix it ?
[00:53] <jack> are? is...
[00:53] <jack> sorry
[00:53] <moppy> jhave, have you looked for the older version in symantec?
[00:53] <moppy> oops synapic
[00:53] <rammm> jhave: type rm -rf /
[00:54] <jack> evil
[00:54] <moppy> also wont work, ubutnu wont allow that one
[00:54] <jhave> moppy, no ?
[00:54] <jrib> jhave: don't run that command
[00:55] <rammm> RUN IT
[00:55] <jrib> rammm: what are you doing... that behavior is not welcomed here.  Stop or you will be banned.
[00:55] <jhave> I dont think it fix the problem ;)
[00:55] <rammm> :D
[00:55] <rammm> >:D
[00:55] <ObrienDave> rammm... already got booted from the OT channel
[00:56] <jack> fixes....
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> ramine: stop, just stop
[00:58] <phunyguy> !danger
[00:58] <jack> lol
[00:58] <rammm> lol
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> >commands that should've be uttered
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> :b
[00:59] <moppy> jhave, sorry what i suggest you do is look in the ubuntu packages list for the older verison, then install it manually
[00:59] <moppy> jhave, obviously remove the newer one first
[01:00] <moppy> jhave, i cant remeber  how to lock the verison so updates don't replace it
[01:01] <everald> Hello. How can I see how much storage space there is left on Ubuntu One?
[01:01] <phunyguy> everald: in the app or online iirc
[01:02] <moppy> everald, the ubuntuone program tells you
[01:02] <everald> I can't see it online anywhere.
[01:02] <moppy> everald, open the app, it's on the front page at the top
[01:06] <everald> Ok, thanks. BTW wondering what the "Ubuntu One" folder in my home is for?
[01:07] <moppy> everald, that folder is sync'ed with the cloud
[01:07] <everald> I was thinking that it was a remote mount of the ubuntu one space, but that doesn't seem to be the case--it seems to be a local folder.
[01:07] <everald> Aha. Got it.
[01:07] <moppy> everald, it is a remote mount but you need to enable it
[01:07] <moppy> well it's not a mount
[01:07] <moppy> it's a sync'ed copy sorry
[01:09] <everald> Yes, got it.
[01:09] <everald> There's a problem: the backup tool still says "Backup location is too small. Try using one with more space.",
[01:10] <everald> even though I purchased more space, have got 25G now, and only 13% used.
[01:10] <everald> Actually it was using 3.2 GB before, out of 5GB. Why is it saying it doesn't have enough space?
[01:12] <everald> Hm, could it be running out of space in /tmp or somewhere?
[01:12] <everald> Sigh, imprecise error messages.
[01:13] <pseubodot> Hi there. I recently upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 (amd64) over three machines. Am impressed with how the interface keeps getting more polished. One minor issue that arises is that in Unity on one machine I can no get programs or files shown in the hud when I type. the 'search' icon just turns ... Is there something I missed (eg. unity equivalent of update-dlocatedb) ?
[01:22] <bobmatrix> hey
[01:22] <bobmatrix> ok good its working
[01:23] <bobmatrix> yey
[01:25] <ctcb> Okay, so I recently bought a new Laptop, and It had Windows 8 on. I formatted my 8GB USB Stick and put  Ubuntu 13.10 64-Bit on it and restarted the PC. Everything is fine, but I'm now at the Installation type / Custom partition thing.
[01:25] <ctcb> But I have a problem here.
[01:25] <ctcb> I can't add the 827MB of Free Space in /dev/sda to /dev/sda2
[01:25] <ctcb> /dev/sda2 is the main 1TB Hard Drive.
[01:26] <YellowGTO> Hey guys im having an issue. My motherboard has onboard audio Creative CA0132 chip
[01:26] <YellowGTO> Im having trouble getting this to work
[01:26] <ctcb> /dev/sda was the recovery drive from HP.
[01:27] <everald> Ok, seems that we actually had too much stuff to backup (more than the 25GB), and did't see the error message in the past. Ignored part of the home dir, now seems ok.
[01:27] <ObrienDave> ctcb... do you really want to do this?
[01:28] <ctcb> ObrienDave, I'm losing 827MB from my 1TB Hard Drive. :(
[01:28] <ctcb> I need all those MB's.
[01:29] <ObrienDave> ctcb... only asking if you are SURE you want to kill windows recovery
[01:31] <ctcb> I'm sure, I don't want to go back to Windows. I only use Windows on my Gaming PC, because 95% of the Games in the world aren't Linux Compatable yet.
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, Have you installed linux yet?
[01:33] <ctcb> wilee-nilee, not yet, I'm on the screen where you pick what Drive to install to, and you can edit them and stuff.
[01:34] <ObrienDave> he's just starting the install i think.
[01:34] <ObrienDave> the gparted screen
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, Yu plan to keep windows at all on the HD?
[01:34] <ctcb> wilee-nilee, not at all.
[01:34] <ctcb> Ubuntu is my laptop OS. :D
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, That is a uefi gpt partitioning setup removing windows completely, may require a new partition table to msdos to just run linux easily.
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> and setting the bios to legacy, be careful here
[01:36] <kxtwo> hey guys, anyone familiar with unetbootin?
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, many are state the issues to the channel.
[01:37] <ctcb> wilee-nilee: Would it be better to install Ubuntu on my HD, and then extend it by moving the free space?
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, That has nothing to do with what I said, do you understand what I stated as a possibility?
[01:39] <ctcb> wilee-nilee, Uh... no?
[01:40] <kxtwo> yah, the # is empty so thought it might be worth coming here.  ANyway, my friend wants windows on a laptop so I am using unetbootin to create a windows 7 usb.  it is stuck at 52 percent though.  I looked it up on the net and it said its normal to hang for a few minutes at that point because its is over 2G file size but its been 20+ minutes.  was wondering if anyone had any ideas
[01:41] <kxtwo> FYI the reason im using unetbootin is because I only have ubuntu, no windows.
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, That is okay, windows 8 has a totally different partitioning set up and bios then earlier computers, it is a uefi safe boot and gpt partitioning, that is attached to the main chip, and the ubuntu install would be communicating with that W8 system to run normally. Removing all of it may need you to change the partition table to be run ubuntu only, I would get help on this is all I suggest.
[01:46] <kxtwo> anything
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, what IS are you using to load the W7 to the usb?
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> OS*
[01:47] <kxtwo> um
[01:47] <kxtwo> ubuntu...
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, use this. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> unetbootin sometimes has worked supposedly, this tool does everytime.
[01:49] <joshs> i am using xubuntu and i want to import photos from my kodak camera, how do i do this?
[01:52] <mihir> k
[01:52] <ahoneybun> I was in here yesterday about my lenovo notebook
[01:52] <mihir> exit
[01:53] <ahoneybun> I fixed it and got Ubuntu working
[01:59] <ahoneybun> hello
[01:59] <SchrodingersScat> ahoneybun: hey
[02:00] <bigbadben> So i have this folder called programs I visit often and doing cd /path/to/Programs/DirectoryInPrograms gets tedious after some many times is there a better way to do this so I can just cd Programs/DirectoryInPrograms. Should I add a alias or is there a better way?
[02:01] <SchrodingersScat> bigbadben: softlink?
[02:01] <SchrodingersScat> !info ln | bigbadben
[02:01] <noneone> bigbadben: alias CHOSENALIAS="command"
[02:02] <ahoneybun> SchrodingersScat, hey
[02:02] <bigbadben> is there a better way than an alias or not really
[02:03] <SchrodingersScat> bigbadben: symbolic rather, ln -s /foo/bar/directory /path/to/programs/DirectoryInPrograms
[02:03] <SchrodingersScat> bigbadben: read the manual for 'ln' though.
[02:03] <bigbadben> For sure thanks
[02:05] <fulei> i have a problem when Install ubuntu12.10 from ftp server
[02:05] <fulei> Oct 24 08:48:22 main-menu[345]: INFO: Menu item 'live-installer' selected Oct 24 08:48:22 base-installer: error: Could not find any live images Oct 24 08:48:22 main-menu[345]: WARNING **: Configuring 'live-installer' failed with error code 1 Oct 24 08:48:22 main-menu[345]: WARNING **: Menu item 'live-installer' failed.
[02:06] <fulei> i have a problem when Install ubuntu12.10 from ftp server :
[02:06] <fulei> "
[02:06] <fulei> INFO: Menu item 'live-installer' selected
[02:06] <fulei> error: Could not find any live images
[02:06] <fulei> '
[02:06] <FloodBot1> fulei: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <fulei> Ok
[02:07] <SchrodingersScat> fulei: did you md5 the image?  if you burned it to dvd or made a liveUSB, maybe try again?
[02:07] <fulei> I install ubuntu I Start from USB flash disk and get image from FTP server
[02:08] <SchrodingersScat> fulei: k, if you were me then you'd probably be re-imaging the usb flash disk again, after making sure the md5sum matches.
[02:08] <fulei> mirror/ftp/hostname=<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:08] <fulei> I used this method to install the 12.04 version successfully, but when I install 12.10 version it fails
[02:09] <troulouliou_dev> hi since i migrated to 13.10 my battery status is always 0% in, any idea ?
[02:09] <fulei> I put ubuntu-12.04.2-server-i386.iso and ubuntu-12.10-server-i386.iso in ftp server <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:09] <loa> Hello, what i can do if my screensaver stop working?
[02:09] <ahoneybun> troulouliou_dev, I think that is a reported bug
[02:09] <loa> I 100% sure that it wrok some time after boot
[02:09] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun, ok checking now
[02:10] <loa> but now i idle more then time i set for max idle
[02:10] <loa> it don't activate screensaver
[02:11] <ahoneybun> troulouliou_dev, at least I heard about it in Kubuntu I think
[02:12] <hays> when i am updating to 13.04 it says its an alpha release in the release notes?  true?
[02:13] <ahoneybun> hays, we are on 13.10 now
[02:13] <ahoneybun> troulouliou_dev, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-baseapps/+bug/1235633
[02:13] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun, ok thanks found some other too
[02:14] <YellowGT0> Hey guys
[02:14] <YellowGT0> Im trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 but I get major corruption issues
[02:14] <YellowGT0> I can't see anything on the screen
[02:14] <YellowGT0> Is there a safemode installer?
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | YellowGT0
[02:15] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun, will wait then thanks
[02:16] <ahoneybun> YellowGT0, I get that same problem
[02:16] <YellowGT0> Crossfire ATi ahoneybun ?
[02:16] <hays> hmm ok the confirmation window to upgrade to 13.04 is too tall for me to hit the yes button and CR doesn't seem to work either
[02:16] <ahoneybun> YellowGT0, Ideapad with a onboard Intel and a nvidia
[02:17] <YellowGT0> Thank you wilee-nilee and ubottu
[02:17] <hays> what a weird problem/bug
[02:17] <YellowGT0> I swear I googled the hell ouit of it from my phone
[02:17] <YellowGT0> Hmm
[02:17] <YellowGT0> Well Brb
[02:17] <YellowGT0> Lets see if it works
[02:17] <YellowGT0> :)
[02:17] <reisio> at least it won't have any hell now
[02:18] <ahoneybun> YellowGT0, I used nomodeset to get the installer to work and then had to install bumblebee and bumblebee-nvidia to get a working xorg
[02:21] <furoido> anyone having problem with chrome/chromium browser?
[02:21] <reisio> furoido: you?
[02:21] <furoido> page titles on tab are not showing
[02:22] <furoido> on two computers. same hardwares, same 13.10
[02:23] <sam113101> how do I know if KMS is used?
[02:23] <reisio> furoido: might query #chromium
[02:24] <reisio> sam113101: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28033/how-to-check-the-information-of-current-installed-video-drivers
[02:26] <kxtwo> wilee-nilee, not having much more l uck with winusb
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, where is the windows ISO from?
[02:28] <kxtwo> it is running just really slowly
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, where was the iso gotten from?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> this a microsoft ISO?
[02:29] <kxtwo> yes
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, and gotten from where?
[02:29] <kxtwo> from microsoft
[02:30] <reisio> that would've been my guess :p
[02:30] <reisio> kxtwo: what're you trying to do?
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> reisio, load a W7 iso to a usb.
[02:31] <kxtwo> install win7 on a friends laptop.  I dont hve windows so was trying to put the iso on a usb to install.
[02:31] <kxtwo> I used unetbootin but it froze at 52 percent for over 30 minuts, now trying winusb but its super slow.  Might be working but don't know yet
[02:31] <reisio> kxtwo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28033/how-to-check-the-information-of-current-installed-video-drivers
[02:31] <reisio> only reliable way I have ever come across
[02:32] <reisio> erm, wrong paste
[02:32] <reisio> kxtwo: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, I have to wonder if the iso is not corrupted should not take that long to load, how big is the iso if you right click it then hit properties
[02:33] <kxtwo> close to 4
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> 4 bytes?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, 4 gigs, what release?
[02:34] <reisio> you can get the windows image checksums off of msdn
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> yeah I would do that
[02:34] <fahadash> Has anybody ever used xubuntu ?
[02:35] <ObrienDave> all the time ;)
[02:36] <kxtwo> at this point I'd be better off with a torrented version jeez
[02:37] <garcianc> kxtwo, were you trying to setup dual boot?
[02:37] <fahadash> ObrienDave: I don't wanna challenge the dictatorship of operators. would you be available at #ubuntu-offtopic for a quick question ?
[02:37] <reisio> kxtwo: http://is.gd/X4IjmC the 'Details' link expands and shows a sha-1 sum, ordinary Windows 7 x64 Ultimate in English is listed as, for example, 'Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) - DVD (English)'
[02:37] <ObrienDave> sure, if I can
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, a torrent version would not be safe, nor will you get any support anywhere on freenode unless you lie.
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> reisio but is his iso an msdn one?
[02:39] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: if he doesn't know, those sums can tell him
[02:39] <kxtwo> let it go wilee-nilee It was obvious from your questionining you were against pirating, but torrenting does not equal pirating :)
[02:39] <sublimefreak> Hey guys I installed 13.10 server on a laptop, how sd config the power management so that it is always on?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, that is a assumption, and torrenting is illegal to get windows.
[02:39] <reisio> it'd be safe if the checksum passed, but that is another discussion
[02:40] <sublimefreak> opps * how do I
[02:40] <kxtwo> I hate it when people dont understand how this works
[02:40] <kxtwo> torrenting is not illegal
[02:40] <reisio> sublimefreak: should be in the menu somewheres
[02:40] <kxtwo> if I have rights to what I am downloading
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> It is to get windows
[02:40] <reisio> kxtwo: it's not even if you don't :) but that's not really what this channel is for talking about
[02:41] <kxtwo> reisio, I know I am just responding to wilee-nilee it was blatantly obvious from the get go he was trying to dig and find out if I was pirating 7 lol.
[02:41] <sublimefreak> reisio how do I get to the menu from the command line?
[02:41] <reisio> as to putting a valid Windows image onto USB from Ubuntu, I gave you a link explaining how to do it, so you're all set :)
[02:41] <reisio> kxtwo: I know I know :)
[02:41] <kxtwo> reisio, im still holding out on winusb
[02:41] <reisio> I think he's probably just trying to be in compliance with the channel and network rules
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> kxtwo do you have a licence on the bottom of your laptop?
[02:41] <kxtwo> reisio, just not sure why its so slow
[02:41] <pigletfly> oh
[02:41] <reisio> kxtwo: really, that thing I linked is the only reliable way I've come across
[02:41] <reisio> sublimefreak: ordinarily you don't
[02:41] <reisio> sublimefreak: some reason you need to?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> I also gave a excellent tool that is a fork of the windows usb tool
[02:42] <pigletfly> how to set up 5G wifi in ubuntu?
[02:42] <reisio> microsoft dvd usb image tool?
[02:42] <reisio> is unreliable
[02:42] <reisio> I think they violated GPL on that one, too
[02:42] <sublimefreak> The server is command line only isn't it?
[02:42] <kxtwo> if I get desperate I will just grab a windows machine
[02:42] <reisio> sublimefreak: ordinarily
[02:42] <reisio> sublimefreak: it also wouldn't have power management set to sleep the system
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: its easier to use diskpart ... especially if you wany uefi boot
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> reisio, The fork works and the tool is provided by them, all ones needs anyway is a ntfs with a boot flag and a extract toiboot it anyway
[02:43] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: more reliable, I'm sure
[02:43] <reisio> all I know is it failed when I tried it :)
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> using diskpart allows you to format the usb as fat32, ms tool only formats it as ntfs ... and you have to have fat32 for uefi install
[02:44] <sam113101> reisio: which part is supposed to help me?
[02:44] <reisio> sam113101: the stuff about grepping and lsmod
[02:45] <sam113101> I know what my graphic card is and which X driver is in use
[02:45] <sublimefreak> reisio, it seems to have some sort of power management. Everytime the screen turns off on the laptop I lose my ssh connection on my other machine.
[02:45] <reisio> sam113101: what do you need to know?
[02:45] <sam113101> I don't know if the kernel uses a specific driver
[02:45] <sam113101> to allow KMS
[02:45] <reisio> sublimefreak: hrmm
[02:45] <reisio> sublimefreak: check your ssh timeout first
[02:46] <reisio> sublimefreak: but that'd be normal, actually, nevermind
[02:46] <sam113101> KMS = the kernel knows about my graphic card and the bootsplash can display better, right?
[02:46] <reisio> sublimefreak: unless you're using screen/tmux, if your client dies, that's it
[02:46] <reisio> sam113101: potentially, yup, "better"
[02:47] <sublimefreak> ok I'll investigate further. Thanks reisio
[02:48] <reisio> sublimefreak: sounds like you just need to use screen or tmux on the server, and toggle your client box's power management if it still bothers you
[02:51] <West> Is there a way to disable thumbnails by size ? Whenever I use type in a .py or .cs file the thumbnail shows text. I know to how to disable thumbnails on nautilus, but is there a way to do this by file types ? Thanks
[02:53] <reisio> so it's making a thumbnail of the text appearance instead of just using an icon?
[02:53] <West> reisio: yes
[02:53] <dannymichel> is there a terminal comand i can use to move any file with word 'cover' in the file name?
[02:53] <reisio> that does sound silly
[02:54] <reisio> dannymichel: yeah...
[02:54] <dannymichel> reisio: can you let me know it?
[02:55] <somsip> dannymichel: this will give you the right idea http://is.gd/I2Fq4P
[02:55] <reisio> dannymichel: yeah I'll have to figure it out, min
[02:55] <reisio> oh in the file name
[02:55] <garcianc> dannymichel, you need something more complicated than a simple mv command?
[02:55] <reisio> bah I was thinking within the file for some reason
[02:56] <reisio> yeah find start/point/ -iname '*cover*' -exec mv -n {} new/path/ \; should suffice
[02:56] <reisio> or -name if you only want lowercase 'cover' exactly
[02:57] <reisio> do it with just find start/point/ -iname '*cover*' first, so you know all the files you find are the ones you want to move, then add the rest
[02:57] <sam113101> reisio: should the console font also be ajusted to my screen? ie. not 800x600 on a 1920x1200 monitor
[02:57] <reisio> sam113101: hrmm?
[02:58] <sam113101> KMS
[02:58] <sam113101> sometimes it's stretched out ;_;
[02:59] <reisio> it's probably using the best res it can for your monitor
[02:59] <dannymichel> no, i just need a simple mv command garcianc .
[02:59] <reisio> you could reconfigure it to something you might personally prefer, probably
[02:59] <reisio> but I wouldn't bother if you're only going to be in X most of the time
[02:59] <dannymichel> i tried  find ~/Desktop/Advertising\ CSR/ -iname "*cover" -exec mv {} ~/Desktop/Resume \; in the terminal and it didnt work
[02:59] <reisio> dannymichel: *cover or *cover* ?
[03:00] <reisio> garcianc was basically asking if you needed to find them recursively
[03:00] <reisio> or if they can all be assumed to be in one dir
[03:00] <garcianc> dannymichel, if case is not an issue you can simply use: mv *cover* <destination path>
[03:00] <dannymichel> any file with the name cover in the file name
[03:00] <reisio> in the case of the latter, you could just do mv -n dir/*cover* elsewhere/
[03:00] <sam113101> "nomodeset" disables KMS?
[03:01] <dannymichel> ' ~/Desktop/Resume' is the destination
[03:01] <reisio> sam113101: ms stands for mode setting
[03:01] <daniel_> GUYS! I did a sudo apt-get update and now my moka icon theme isn't working in unity?
[03:01] <reisio> dannymichel: is it an existing directory?
[03:01] <dannymichel>  ~/Desktop/Advertising\ CSR/ is wher eim looking in garcianc
[03:01] <sam113101> so?
[03:01] <nownot> does anyone in here have experience setting up reverse proxies using apache?
[03:02] <reisio> sam113101: so yes
[03:02] <sam113101> cool man
[03:02] <reisio> nownot: #httpd
[03:02] <nownot> reisio: it's dead in there :(
[03:02] <sam113101> my brain is putting it all together, finally
[03:03] <dannymichel> garcianc:  thanks
[03:03] <dannymichel> that worked
[03:03] <sam113101> so the kernel driver and the X driver are two different drivers?
[03:03] <garcianc> cool
[03:04] <sam113101> but I guess the kernel driver does less stuff, so is less complex
[03:04] <sam113101> just setting the resolution and color depth, maybe
[03:05] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_setting#Linux
[03:05] <reisio> they both have their place
[03:06] <sam113101> ok
[03:06] <sam113101> reisio: do you know where I can learn more about unix-like operating system, such as current linux distros? know more about their inner working, the components, startup process, etc.
[03:07] <sam113101> the graphic stack
[03:07] <IzzyD> hey, i was wondering if i could get a little help with installing alongside win8.
[03:07] <sam113101> have an overview of existing unix tools
[03:07] <Ari-Yang> sam113101: google
[03:07] <Ari-Yang> sam113101: what you just asked isn't really an ubuntu tech support question...
[03:08] <reisio> sam113101: wikipedia will suffice for general knowledge
[03:08] <reisio> IzzyD: what about it?
[03:08] <IzzyD> and before i get the answer to google it, i have a few install guides already, but the seem to keep failing me.
[03:09] <IzzyD> reisio: i've tried to install multiple times already with little to no success.
[03:10] <reisio> IzzyD: what happens?
[03:10] <IzzyD> reisio: usually it's been a pretty smooth install for me on other laptops and desktops, but this time i'm having all kinds of problems that i'm assuming have to do with secure boot and the uefi.
[03:10] <reisio> like what?
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: can you boot the installer?
[03:11] <IzzyD> reisio: when i boot from usb it take me to the grub installer, where i have the options to try, install or oem install, but no matter what option i tried, it just sends me to a black screen and sits there.
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: add kernel param nomodeset
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[03:12] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: what exactly is that?
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> e) to edit kernel line/entrys - theres a line that says 'quiet splash'   make it 'quiet nomodeset splash'
[03:13] <reisio> IzzyD: it turns off graphical things you don't need, that may potentially malfunction
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> the theres some key (f10?) to boot the new edited entry.
[03:13] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: what's "quiet" for?
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> quiet is for the loggine messages.
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> quiet = doesnt spit dmesg at you
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> change it to noquiet nomodeset nofb     if you want.
[03:14] <sam113101> nofb = ?
[03:14] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO  will it affect my windows 8 install at all?
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> framebuffer
[03:14] <nownot> so networking and httpd is dead, anyone got a few to help me out with reverse proxy?
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> noquiet nofb nomodeset nosplash             ;) turns about everything off
[03:15] <sam113101> where can I change that, man, ubuntu doesn't install grub (or hides it, idk) nowadays
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: not yet ... wait till you get to the installer for all that
[03:15] <reisio> IzzyD: it's just for the installer session
[03:15] <sam113101> nofb = uses text mode instead?
[03:15] <sam113101> right
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> console uses framebufer by default.
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> that makes it not use the frameuffer console
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: grub stays quiet unless you fail to boot, or you hold right shift on boot
[03:16] <sam113101> right shift, will try it
[03:16] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO: do either of you have a way that i can contact you off from here? this is the laptop i'm trying to install on.
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: fraid not
[03:16] <reisio> IzzyD: if you can get it to boot, just come back here on the live OS
[03:16] <reisio> there's an IRC client on there, IIRC
[03:16] <sam113101> if I use text mode and don't have a monitor, but have a vt100 attached to the computer, will it use the vt100?
[03:17] <reisio> IzzyD: you'd want to start with 'try' instead of 'install' in that case
[03:17] <IzzyD> ok, and how do i go about installing the nomodeset?
[03:17] <reisio> IzzyD: it's just an option you pass, I thought someone told the bot to tell you how
[03:17] <jack> sam113101, that'd be kewl
[03:18] <sam113101> I wonder if my BIOS supports terminals
[03:18] <sam113101> I hope yes
[03:18] <reisio> IzzyD: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png F6
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: you dont install "nomodeset" you just choose it at the grub option ... edit it with e and append nomodeset then hit f10 as the doc stated
[03:18] <IzzyD> i've tried "try" a few times already and it still takes me to the same thing.
[03:18] <reisio> IzzyD: right, that's for after using nomodeset :)
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: the grub/boot screen looks nothing like that :P
[03:18] <infinitux> hi. i have a dual screen setup but one of them is a tv. is there an app like a pager that will show me what's going on with my other screen so if it's powered off I can move windows from it to my powered screen?
[03:18] <reisio> so you can use IRC before installing
[03:19] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: does it have an F6 option?
[03:19] <infinitux> i'm constantly opening windows on the wrong screen and having to power on the tv to move them
[03:19] <reisio> infinitux: yes, a pager
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> no just lists the install or try ... just needs to hilight try ubuntu and press e to edit it
[03:19] <infinitux> okay
[03:19] <reisio> infinitux: you could also probably have wmctrl or devilspie dynamically move them
[03:19] <infinitux> thanks.
[03:20] <IzzyD> reisio: i don't get the purple screen because my laptop is uefi.
[03:20] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: well that's what's in ubottu's link :/
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: its quite outdated at this stage :P
[03:20] <reisio> good times
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: a lot of the links really need to get updated
[03:21] <IzzyD> reisio: am i allowed to link to an image in here?
[03:22] <reisio> IzzyD: course
[03:22] <IzzyD> reisio: http://i.imgur.com/4TjxW.jpg this is what install looks like.
[03:22] <limpc> 2girls1cup
[03:22] <reisio> what hitsujiTMO said should work, though, if you get a grub screen
[03:22] <reisio> IzzyD: right, hit 'e' and do what hitsujiTMO said
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> izzy, highlight try and press 'e'
[03:23] <reisio> cameras are so kewl
[03:23] <IzzyD> ok, hopefully i'll be back soon ^^
[03:23] <reisio> yup :)
[03:29] <Crazyzurfer> updated from 13.04 to 13.10 and now my virtualhost's pages are getting error 403, Forbidden :(
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: apache httpd has been updated to 2.4 from 2.2 in 13.10  ... new config method
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: have a read http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/upgrading.html on the changes you need to make to your virtualhosts
[03:32] <reisio> really...
[03:32] <reisio> could be an opportune time to switch to nginx, then :)
[03:32] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: thanks, I'll read it
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: its not an abolutely crazy config, but it confuses the hell of a lot of people ... but do switch to nginx ... much sweeter :P
[03:33] <xiaopi[z]> +1 for nginx ;)
[03:33] <reisio> yeah and if you have to learn a little new config anyways...
[03:33] <reisio> I find nginx's simpler anyways
[03:33] <YellowGTO> Well I wanted to thank you guys
[03:33] <YellowGTO> Got ubuntu fully installed :)
[03:34] <daniel_> Does anyone know what I should do in this case? I did an apt uprgrade and it downloaded the latest version of the moka icon pack but now suddenly it won't work for the unity launcher anymore
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: far less to type at least :P ... i just wish it had decent relative path support
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> daniel_: change themes? or icon packs?
[03:35] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: relative path?
[03:35] <reisio> YellowGTO: gj
[03:35] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: Woorked! :)
[03:35] <daniel_> Hitsujitm0 nooooooooooo moka looks so good
[03:36] <daniel_> is there a chance that unity's been updated so that it can no longer be altered by ubuntu tweak tool
[03:36] <halida_> 0
[03:37] <garcianc> I use the tweak took in 13.10
[03:37] <IzzyD> reisio: i failed >>
[03:37] <daniel_> garcianc I'm on 12.04 and it's worked fine until today
[03:37] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: as in if i could specify a root path (not the www root) for a server such as /home/www/domain ... i could then specify that the www root is www not /home/www/domainname/www  or my ssl key is ssl/ssl.key not /home/www/domain/ssl/ssl.key
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:38] <Crazyzurfer> phpmyadmin now says: The json extension is missing. Please check your PHP configuration. :(
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: grr ... ok, how did you create the installer?
[03:38] <reisio> IzzyD: what happened?
[03:38] <ObrienDave> daniel_... more likely is your system is too old to work with a newer version of tweak-tool
[03:38] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: hrmmm, I thought it took arbitrary variables
[03:39] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO: this one was my fault, i couldn't remember what to do after hitting e.
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: ahhh lol ... append nomodeset to the end
[03:39] <neetz_> hey guys , link for 0AD on ubuntu please ?
[03:40] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO: just type that into the command line?
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> izzyd yup
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: whats 0AD?
[03:40] <ObrienDave> neetz_... it's in the getdeb repo
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: so it will become: quiet splash nomodeset
[03:41] <joelteon> I'm getting a lot of these during apt-get update: "W: Failed to fetch http://get.docker.io/ubuntu/dists/docker/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:3142:"
[03:41] <reisio> lotuspsychje: http://play0ad.com/
[03:41] <joelteon> is there some significance to that address/port? i've not seen it before
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: could just be a crappy ppa
[03:41] <neetz_> ObrienDave:  In git ?
[03:42] <bloftd> hi
[03:42] <joelteon> where would I change that? i checked /etc/apt/sources.list but it wasn't in there
[03:42] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  it's a open source game
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> reisio: tnx, wow looking nice
[03:42] <ObrienDave> neetz_... you didn't ask for git link. sorry, don't know where else to get 0ad
[03:42] <reisio> yeah, pretty
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: sources.list.d
[03:43] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO: also, not sure if it matters, but i'm using 13.10 64bit
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: does not matter!
[03:43] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: ok, making sure ><
[03:43] <joelteon> hitsujiTMO: not there, either; only get.docker.io is
[03:43] <neetz_> ObrienDave:  have a look at this http://sourceforge.net/projects/zero-ad/files/releases/ but I dont know which file to download , just have a look and tell me what do i download ?
[03:44] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: but isnt that the failed one ... get.docker.io ?
[03:44] <ObrienDave> neetz_... start here http://www.getdeb.net/welcome/
[03:44] <joelteon> hitsujiTMO: right, but why is it connecting to 172....?
[03:45] <joelteon> get.docker.io is certainly up
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> !info 0AD | neetz_
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: apt-cache search 0AD
[03:46] <neetz_> ObrienDave:  that thing is blocked by our college server
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: maybe you've a crappy isp t
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: maybe you've a crappy isp that is under dns attack?
[03:46] <Crazyzurfer> solved
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Crazyzurfer
[03:47] <joelteon> meh
[03:47] <Crazyzurfer> ;)
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: what does get.docker.io resolv to for you if you ping it?
[03:47] <joelteon> hitsujiTMO: that's not the IP of get.docker.io
[03:47] <joelteon> it's an alias for edge-docker.dotcloud.com which has 54.234.* addresses
[03:47] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  i ran that command , dint get anything
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: sudo apt-get install 0AD
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: but what do you get if you ping get.docker.io?
[03:49] <joelteon> normal ping replies
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: ok, next possibility: do you have a proxy set up in your apt.conf?
[03:51] <joelteon> Acquire::http { Proxy "http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3142"; };
[03:51] <neetz_> ubottu:  where but ?
[03:51] <joelteon> oh. what is that supposed to be doing? :/
[03:51] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  i need a package
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: doenst it install?
[03:51] <neetz_> ubottu:  lol ? mitsuku huh ?
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: did you put that there?
[03:52] <ObrienDave> neetz_... here is playdeb deb file. install then look in software center for 0ad   https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6jxgrrefu6nc0s/playdeb_0.3-1%7Egetdeb1_all.deb
[03:52] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  it installs but i need a package such that i can give it to everyone here
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: back it up with aptoncd maybe?
[03:54] <Paulus68_1> What I understood from total drive encryption is that it create a second partition in LVM which is encrypted, so far so good, however what happens if this partition gets "damaged" due to a power failure it's not able to write correctly to the encrypted drive and gets corrupt, is there a way to repair this?
[03:54] <DeusExitium> hey everyone does anyone know how to install java for backtrack 5r3?
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> !backtrack | DeusExitium
[03:54] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: ...
[03:54] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: you in?
[03:54] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  command please , ubuntu newbie here
[03:54] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: how EXACTLY do i type it in after hitting e?
[03:54] <DeusExitium> thanks ubottu
[03:54] <ObrienDave> Paulus68_1... if the encrypted drive gets corrupted, you're SOL
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> this is why you make backups ;
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: maybe get the .deb from ObrienDave suggested you
[03:55] <Paulus68_1> ObrienDave: SOL?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !aptoncd | neetz_
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Super Out Of Luck
[03:55] <ObrienDave> SOL Sorry, out of luck
[03:56] <Paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: ok
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: what about if drive is only half broken
[03:56] <ObrienDave> and that's being NICE about it
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: errm, tis a long time since i've had 2 do it, give me a sec and ill have a look
[03:57] <reisio> IzzyD: should just have to go the line that starts with 'linux', hit END, add ' nomodeset'
[03:58] <ObrienDave> people, an ENCRYPTED drive is nothing more than ONE giant file. what do you suppose would happen if ANY part of that file was corrupted?
[03:58] <reisio> IzzyD: then do what it says at the bottom of the screen to boot
[03:58] <Paulus68_1> ObrienDave: hmm so if you don't encrypt your drive and you get a bad drive because of power failure you might be lucky in order to retrieve some data, but if you are paranoid and you enccrypted your harddrive you loose by definition all your data
[03:58] <reisio> ObrienDave: that isn't necessarily true ;)
[03:58] <Paulus68_1> ObrienDave: I know it's a big file
[03:58] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  ok
[03:58] <IzzyD> reisio: that's what i just tried and it still just brought me to a solid black screen.
[03:58] <reisio> IzzyD: horrors
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: can you restore lost data with photorec on an encrypted drive?
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  that would be a neat trick.
[03:59] <ObrienDave> NOT if you lose the key
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: so its impossible to retrieve data with data recovery software?
[04:00] <ObrienDave> since every encrypted drive is mathematically different, if you lose the key, it's history
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> cool
[04:01] <reisio> that's the same with anything, though
[04:01] <reisio> if you lose it it's lost
[04:01] <ObrienDave> data recovery cannot recover data from an encrypted drive without the key
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: tnx
[04:02] <Paulus68_1> ObrienDave: fair enough
[04:02]  * lotuspsychje can sleep in peace again while the fbi knocks on his door
[04:02] <ObrienDave> LOL
[04:03] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: ok, when you hit e a text editor like thing comes one ... on the second last line )starting with "linux" go the the end of that and just after splash append nomodeset
[04:03] <Paulus68_1> lotuspsychje: didn't know you had connection with the fbi
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> :p
[04:03] <ObrienDave> only in passing ;)
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> IzzyD:  i normally tell peopleto  put nomodeset   btween the 'quiet splash' so it becomes  'quiet nomodeset splash'  ;)
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> any reccomended sound recorder package to record a decent audo interview?
[04:04] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO: so then, at the end it should say splash append nomodeset?
[04:04] <Guest9774> How to set a firewall?
[04:04] <IzzyD> or just splash nomodeset?
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | Guest9774
[04:05] <hitsujiTMO> not the word append    it should say quiet splash nomodeset
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Guest9774:  you got one built in ;)
[04:05] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje... I like audacity
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: ok tnx for hint
[04:06] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: and also, the end of the line says quiet splash -- do i keep the --?
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | IzzyD
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> IzzyD:  put nomodeset btween the quiet and splash.. makes it rather easy to understand...
[04:06] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: keep it if its there.
[04:07] <Dr_Willis>     <start of line> quiet nomodeset splash <rest of line>
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: those instructions are actually really out of date
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ive tryed updating triggers in the past, never had any reaction on it
[04:07] <IzzyD> ok, brb again. hopefully not on windows.
[04:08] <IzzyD> OH!!!!!
[04:08] <IzzyD> secure boot on or off?
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: there's a system to make a suggestion for outdated triggers, never had any luck...
[04:08] <reisio> IzzyD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[04:08] <Guest9774> Thanks
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: secure boot off, you wont be able to boot the usb with it on.... btw xchat is the default irc app in the live cd
[04:09] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: i'll have to have a look at that. is there a complete list of triggers somewhere? !help doesnt seem to help
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: yes, holdon
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: sweet
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: not sure whats the command to suggest anymore...
[04:10] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje... for simplicity try https://launchpad.net/audio-recorder
[04:11] <Crazyzurfer> hey.. after upgrading to 13.10 I've been getting a php error that says that I need to enable mcrypt.. ran sudo apt-get install php5-mcrypt and it says that is already installed but when I run php --ri mcrypt, I get "Extension 'mcrypt' not present.", soo ubuntu thinks that it's installed but php thinks it's not?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: i think you had to msg ubottu...foo something
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: nice1 tnx
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  /msg ubottu  Hello sweetheart.....
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: no i mean to suggest a trigger to ubottu, so it come to ubuntu-ops chan
[04:12] <ObrienDave> !42
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:12] <doomlord_> what are the highlights in 13.1
[04:12] <doomlord_> what are the highlights in 13.10
[04:12] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: is that for phpmyadmin?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> doomlord_: the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites have summaries
[04:13] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: nope
[04:13] <xangua> !releasenotes | doomlord_
[04:13] <[Relic]> wonder what type of sauce  :)
[04:13] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: it may be installed but you may still have to add it into the php ini
[04:13] <Guest9774> If i encrypt my usb with trucrpt and i put  live image  in it ..so it will be possible to boot
[04:13] <Guest9774> ?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> [Relic]: Opensauce :p
[04:14] <reisio> Guest9774: it'd be involved
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> Guest9774:  i would  be impressed if it was doable
[04:14] <ObrienDave> so would I
[04:14] <reisio> truecrypt is almost a reasonable choice if you need to have an encrypted FS that you can use from random different OSes
[04:14] <reisio> and not really otherwise
[04:14] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: ok.. Do you know what should I add?
[04:14] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: try adding "extension=mcrypt.so" to php.ini
[04:16] <ctcb> Question: I now have Ubuntu installed on my laptop, but I have a few problems: Some of my programs need Right Alt but when pressing Alt it takes me to "Type Your Command"
[04:16] <Paulus68_1> Guest9774: if the iso could Read your password it might be able to do so otherwhise you are out of luck
[04:16] <Crazyzurfer> That exact line is but in /etc/php5/conf.d/mcrypt.ini
[04:17] <Paulus68_1> since an iso is not able to think for itself the answer is NO
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb: as in "alt gr" brings up "type your command"?
[04:18] <ObrienDave> why would anyone need to encrypt a free and open source ISO file?
[04:18] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO:  QnQ
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: for secure boot?
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: not working?
[04:18] <ctcb> hitsujiTMO, both Alt buttons on my keyboard are doing it. DOSBox tells me to press Alt-GR + Enter to go Fullscreen, but it can't because Type your Command appears when I do that.
[04:18] <ObrienDave> LOL not quite the same thing ;)
[04:18] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: nuuu
[04:19] <reisio> ObrienDave: same reason you'd encrypt anything
[04:19] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: still boots to a solid black screen and stops there. :L
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb: odd, alt gr should not    what version of ubuntu?
[04:19] <apb> ubuntu 12.04... not getting sound with hulu or youtube, I I do get sound with amarok... earlier today the system insisted I had taken out internal hardware (which I have not) and asked  if I wanted to remove... not alsa, but the other one .... can't think of the name right now...  so I said yes.  How do I get it back?
[04:19] <reisio> apb: pulse
[04:19] <ObrienDave> ummm, there is nothing on the ISO that needs to be hidden. is there?
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: you booting from dvd or usb?
[04:19] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: Now it works, copied the file I told you and pasted it in /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d/
[04:19] <Crazyzurfer> !yay
[04:19] <apb> reiso: yeah, that's that's it
[04:19] <reisio> ObrienDave: why would he ask otherwise
[04:19] <Guest9774> Paulus68_1 thanks  for  d info
[04:19] <ctcb> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 13.10  - AMD64
[04:19] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: usb
[04:20] <apb> reisio: Yeah, that's it
[04:20] <apb> pulse
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: \o/
[04:20] <Paulus68_1> reisio: some people like to protect their data against god knows who
[04:20] <garcianc> instead of encrypt, why not read only?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> rot13 the iso
[04:20] <reisio> Paulus68_1: think you meant ObrienDave
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb: may be your keyboard sending same signal for alt + alt gr :(
[04:21] <ObrienDave> LMAO there is NOTHING on the live DVD that needs to be encrypted
[04:21] <reisio> you are easily amused :p
[04:21] <ObrienDave> yes, me too
[04:22] <ObrienDave> oh, you meant me PFFFFFT
[04:22] <Paulus68_1> reisio: no I was refering to you :)
[04:22] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: how exactly did you make it?
[04:22] <ObrienDave> *ducks*
[04:22] <reisio> Paulus68_1: I like to protect my data?
[04:22] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: i made the usb using universal usb installer
[04:23] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: a few peeps have had trouble with ones made with that ... try http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: also, what graphics card do you have?
[04:23] <ctcb> hitsujiTMO, I also have a problem with my keyboard where it has switched the " and @ keys around, how do I fix this?
[04:23] <apb> so if I test my hardware sound device... it works... but I get no sound from hulu.com or youtube... hmmm... flash maybe?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> apb:  sounds like a flash sound issue to me.
[04:24] <apb> Dr_Willis: it was working just fine earlier...   reinstall??
[04:24] <ObrienDave> OK, if you're using the ISO to install a system, exactly what data that is sensitive to you, is actually on the disk? let me guess, NONE
[04:25] <CIDR> When I install ubuntu I just select lbuntu minimal.  Now  I just get a blank desktop at longin...  Nothing at all on it.  Ideas?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> apb:  reinstall = windows mindset.
[04:25] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb: change the keyboard layout   your on us and want uk?    change it in System Settings -> Text Entry
[04:25] <Paulus68_1> reisio: I was refering to this remark same reason you'd encrypt anything
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> apb:  if you reinstall the exact same setup. id expect ehe exact same results.
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> apb:  tried google-chrome yet? it has its own flash built in
[04:25] <reisio> Paulus68_1: ah, it all makes sense now :)
[04:25] <apb> Dr_Willis: can't install chrome... it just won't go.  went round and round on that
[04:26] <hitsujiTMO> cidr, what installation disk is that for(what version)
[04:26] <CIDR> Mini
[04:26] <CIDR> 13.10
[04:26] <CIDR> Dr_Willis: I had to use chrome to use quite a few streaming sites.  Including pac-12 network and esp3.  The version of flash for linux is too outdated to work with them, but chromes worked fine.  Just an FYI
[04:27] <Paulus68_1> reisio: it's still early on my side of the globe :p
[04:27] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: radeon hd 7310
[04:27] <ctcb> hitsujiTMO, I see something about changing sources, but not the current keyboard layout.
[04:28] <apb> Dr_Willis: So what does the non-windows mindset do in the case like this?
[04:28] <apb> s/the/a
[04:28] <ObrienDave> drop back 5 yards and punt ;)
[04:28] <apb> no doubt
[04:28] <CIDR> apb: What's your issue?
[04:28] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: graphics card should be ok, shoulbe be supported by default radeondriver at least   .... try create a new installer with that linuxliveusb tool anyhow ... you may still have to boot with nomodeset
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> apb:  blame adobe for lacking proper linux support.. personally i use google-chrome. no idea on your issues with it
[04:28] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: try without first tho
[04:29] <apb> CIDR:  no sound from hulu.com or youtube.com
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> apb:  i also use flash downloader extensions to download youtube videos
[04:29] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: ok, creating it now.
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> apb: you on ubuntu 32bit?
[04:29] <apb> hitsujiTMO: Yes
[04:29] <CIDR> Have you tried html5 videos?
[04:29] <apb> 12.04
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> apb:  there may be some askubuntu.com hits on flash sound issues also.
[04:29] <apb> this was working earlier today
[04:30] <apb> CIDR: I doubt it.  I simply tried hulu.com and youtube.com ... however amarok works.
[04:30] <hitsujiTMO> apb, there was a bug in the .deb file ... there was an update for 64 bit today but so might be an updated .deb for 32bit too. if not install chrome beta.deb that doesnt have the bug
[04:30] <apb> hitsujiTMO: I downloaded chrome stable... didn't work for me... where do I get the beta?
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> apb when did you download stable tho? today?
[04:31] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: Persistance: Live mode?
[04:31] <ctcb> hitsujiTMO, Now I've changed the layout, Alt Gr no longer triggers it.
[04:31] <apb> hitsujiTMO: few days ago maybe?
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> izzdy: just leave it at default
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> apb: i think it was updated today so try again  ...
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> apb: if not i'll get you the link for the beta
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb: sweet!
[04:33] <CIDR> hrmmm bit the bullet and did a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  wonder how long that'll take
[04:33] <thinknow> how can i make transmission the default torrent client again? after i have choosen qbittorrent?
[04:33] <apb> hitsujiTMO: installs!  thanks!  I'll go try the sound issue
[04:35] <hitsujiTMO> apb: np ... good luck with the sound issue
[04:35] <ObrienDave> thinknow... right click on a .torrent select 'open with' select Transmission with 'make default' checked
[04:36] <thinknow> i know about that ObrienDave
[04:36] <thinknow> but it wont show
[04:36] <thinknow> it just show qbit
[04:36] <thinknow> i had that problem on more than one installation
[04:37] <thinknow> other programs dont use to be a problem
[04:37] <ObrienDave> no clue on that one, sorry
[04:37] <CIDR> Couldn't find a good guide for xbmc+ubuntu+intel that wasn't over 1.5 years old and had broken paste bins
[04:37] <CIDR> just going to install xbmc over ubuntu-desktop and see what happens
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> !info xbmc
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> i just install the xbmc package.. and away i go
[04:38] <CIDR> Yeah...
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> hmm   ...   time for sleep
[04:38] <thinknow> i mean, how can i make transmission the default application when i magnet a torrent?
[04:38] <CIDR> I always have to fight with DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD etc..
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> thinknow: you can open 'url' after you copy the magnet link
[04:40] <apb> that fixed it.  Thanks folks!
[04:40] <thinknow> i know
[04:40] <IzzyD> taking forever to create live usb... that's how you know it's working ^^
[04:40] <thinknow> but automatically?
[04:40] <thinknow> so i dont have to do that everytime
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> thinknow: in firefox you can set filetypes to programs aswell
[04:41] <thinknow> because now every time i press the magnet button(that is the only one on piratebay) it opens qbittorrent. And if uninstall it, it cant find any application
[04:42] <reisio> thinknow: talking about a browser?
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  check askubuntu.com yet? i seem to recall seeing this asked there also.
[04:42] <thinknow> ok know i found where i can do it in firefox setings
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> thinknow: browse to transmission-gtk
[04:43] <thinknow> where is it located?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  use the 'locate' command to find out
[04:43] <thinknow> it isnt in the scrolldown menu
[04:43] <CIDR> should ubuntu-desktop install the right intel drivers?
[04:43] <reisio> find ~/.mozilla -iname 'mimetypes.rdf'
[04:43] <reisio> mv that elsewhere
[04:43] <reisio> restart browser
[04:43] <thinknow> locate and then..
[04:43] <thinknow> i cant locate transmission, dont know which folders to look
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> 'locate transmission'
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> or 'which command-you-want-to-find'
[04:44] <wylde> or which transmission-gtk
[04:44] <CIDR> if you don't have locate try whereis
[04:44] <reisio> or dpkg -L transmission-gtk | grep bin
[04:44] <reisio> but /usr/bin/ is the usual place
[04:45] <CIDR> wtf I install ubuntu-desktop but still boots to lbuntu and nothign on the desktop
[04:45] <CIDR> ideas?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  select the desktop to use a tthe login screenm
[04:46] <CIDR> Dont' have an otpion.
[04:46] <thinknow> Thanks folks
[04:46] <thinknow> usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[04:46] <thinknow> :)
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  then you dident install it right.. or are not looking in the right place. or need to restart lightdm
[04:47] <CIDR> I restarted lightdm
[04:47] <CIDR> I just have an otpion of a user drop down and a password
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  look for the other menus that exist.. a gear icon perhaps
[04:47] <IzzyD> uggh... internet speed on military bases in okinawa... TERRIBLE!!!!!
[04:48] <CIDR> hmm found it on the top right
[04:48] <CIDR> Select "Ubuntu"  seemed to do the trick
[04:48] <ObrienDave> IzzyD... could be worse, you could be at my house. 2.5Mb
[04:48] <CIDR> Now how do I make sure I have the right intel drivers?
[04:48] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: i'm at 512k right now >>
[04:48] <ObrienDave> ok, that's worse ;)
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  they are installed by default
[04:49] <CIDR> Ok
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  thjees newer versions in ppa's  or at that intel 01.org site
[04:49] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: i'm about to try and tether my phone. it averages at 8.5mb
[04:49] <ObrienDave> which phone?
[04:50] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: sony xperia from AU
[04:50] <ObrienDave> dang, I could help you on a GS4
[04:51] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: i have one of those too >>
[04:51] <ObrienDave> O.o
[04:51] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: it's a us phone though, so i can't use it here in japan.
[04:52] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: i'm a marine and i came to okinawa hoping to use the world connection, but it's like 2.50/min so i had to get a new phone here.
[04:52] <ObrienDave> ouch
[04:53] <ObrienDave> you on sprint?
[04:53] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: i am with my gs4
[04:53] <IzzyD> ObrienDave:  my xperia is on AU
[04:54] <ObrienDave> i heard they were insane on that connection. didn't realize it was that bad. geez louise
[04:54] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: yea. it's pretty terrible.
[04:55] <IzzyD> ObrienDave:  the internet in my barracks is 55Mb that's why i LOVE being in my room xD
[04:56] <ObrienDave> don't blame you there LOL
[04:56] <IzzyD> <--- loves my tf2 ><
[04:57] <Guest76251> quit
[05:00] <IzzyD> LILI WHY YOU SO SLOW???
[05:00] <reisio> IzzyD: ikr
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> the lili usb disk maker tool? why not ask why its so ugly also. ;)
[05:01] <IzzyD> reisio: everything else takes like 10 minutes tops.
[05:01] <IzzyD> Dr_Willis: i think it's kinda pwetty x3
[05:02] <IzzyD> WOOHOO!!!! KEY READY!!!
[05:02] <IzzyD> only took 45 minutes >>
[05:02] <IzzyD> brb
[05:04] <CallingFlunky3> Have a few questions if anyone would like to try to answer them?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[05:04] <reisio> CallingFlunky3: a few more, or including that one? :p
[05:04] <John77> condescending
[05:05] <Quest> how to cat > file.txt  a file that is on a remove server and I can access it by ssh. I want to save that file on local dir
[05:05] <reisio> Quest: don't cross post
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Quest:  easy way would be to scp the file back to the machine you are on
[05:06] <CallingFlunky3> Can a external HDD run ubuntu on a gateway netbook that has windows based guts?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> CallingFlunky3:  if the pc can boot the hd. should be able to
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> windows based guts =  what do you mean. :) if its nomrmal pc parts.. its  not windows based
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> i boot my EEEpc from external usb/flash/usbhd/sdcard all the time and run ubuntu from them
[05:08] <CallingFlunky3> Well it was win 7, and I'm running on very little sleep lol
[05:08] <niel> guys is there any way I can dupe my partition because I would like to have a second one to mess around with and try out xfce
[05:09] <CallingFlunky3> The old drive crashed and I used ubuntu before
[05:09] <niel> but also have all my stuff
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> niel:  you can install xubuntu desktop on top of your u untu install and just select xubuntu at the login screen
[05:09] <niel> I totally forgot about that
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> that would dupe ubuntu it will never know
[05:10] <IzzyD> reisio: i hate life >>
[05:10] <CallingFlunky3> Had a problem booting up on first try so I'm trying to figure out what if anything I missed
[05:10] <niel> I could just make another parition and copy the files onto it
[05:10] <niel> but that might be sketchy
[05:10] <reisio> IzzyD: :)
[05:10] <IzzyD> reisio: it's still not working...
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, You do a manual install and make sure grub is in the externals mbr?
[05:11] <IzzyD> reisio: and it's the same problem.
[05:11] <crocket> yo
[05:11] <niel> also is there a way to mess around with my grub and rename/move things
[05:11] <niel> my OCD does not like 2 Ubuntus
[05:11] <niel> I also have xubuntu
[05:11] <andry> :'D
[05:12] <CallingFlunky3> Not manual, windows exe based install.
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, wubi?
[05:12] <andry> niel, have a look into /etc/default/grub .. after changes you need to run sudo update-grub2
[05:12] <CIDR> Any idea why I can't select "automatic login" ?
[05:12] <CallingFlunky3> wubi??? meaning?
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, what is a windows exe based install?
[05:13] <reisio> IzzyD: I'd try http://www.sysresccd.org/ with its no kms option, just to make sure it isn't another problem
[05:13] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, wubi
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> yes it is
[05:13] <CallingFlunky3> I used the windows installer... I couldn't remember how to do manual instal :/
[05:13] <sasaga> hi good evening, someone could say that when compiling a kernel hello world for me will not let me compile error generates a number who could colaborarme
[05:14] <IzzyD> reisio: this is honestly upsetting me... i can't live without ubuntu...
[05:14] <CallingFlunky3> I've done it before but I lost all my notes
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, its called wubi, and not a really to be used that way, I'm not surprised it wont boot.
[05:14] <niel> andry, sadly all my boot options are not there
[05:14] <reisio> IzzyD: I hear you
[05:15] <CallingFlunky3> :/ crap lol
[05:15] <andry> then the names are in /etc/grub.d, but i cannot remember which file
[05:15] <CallingFlunky3> Alright I'll see if I can search around some more.
[05:15] <CallingFlunky3> Thanks guys
[05:15] <niel> not that either
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, wubi is a file in windows normally, putting it in the external at the least makes it read slower, and who knows what else.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> id reccomend just running ubuntu in vbox.. instead of using wubi...
[05:15] <CallingFlunky3> Oh goody
[05:16] <andry> /boot/grub/grub.cfg then
[05:16] <niel> lol I found the grub code
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> wubi is best avoided like a err... case of ... err.. some icky disease.
[05:16] <CallingFlunky3> How about just making the drive use ubuntu?
[05:16] <andry> you will not have to run update-grub after you edit the grub.cfg
[05:16] <andry> else it overrides it
[05:16] <CallingFlunky3> It doesn't have a OS anymore
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> CallingFlunky3:  then no Wubi for you it seems
[05:16] <niel> andry, # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
[05:17] <niel> I dont think I should
[05:17] <andry> yes
[05:17] <andry> you "can" if you know what you do :D
[05:17] <niel> I will break shit
[05:17] <IzzyD> reisio: oh yay... 2 hours...
[05:17] <niel> its my middle name
[05:17]  * niel backs up silently
[05:18] <reisio> IzzyD: ?
[05:18] <CallingFlunky3> Alright, so what OS or .iso? and should I put the hdd on the pc I'm going to use it with to do the install?
[05:18] <IzzyD> reisio: the download time for the iso
[05:18] <reisio> IzzyD: 2 hours... :/
[05:18] <reisio> oh right you're in a terrible bandwidth land
[05:18] <IzzyD> reisio: nvm... 4 >>
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> if you edit the grub.cfg - it will get overwritten next time you run update-grub
[05:18] <reisio> that's insane
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, To install to the external you would boot a live dvd/usb and do a manual install to it, a flash drive if large enough would be better.
[05:19] <joelteon> isn't there a web interface for searching apt packages
[05:19] <IzzyD> reisio: yea, military internet :P
[05:19] <IzzyD> :L
[05:19] <andry> yes, i told him, but i guess you can add some 40-custom stuff and modify the names too
[05:19] <joelteon> there should be a package called llvm3.3 somewhere.
[05:19] <andry> i never did this with grub2
[05:19] <joelteon> how do I locate packages that aren't in apt?
[05:19] <reisio> IzzyD: maybe you should try, um
[05:19] <niel> andry, I would so break shit lol
[05:19] <CallingFlunky3> Okay I'm working on that usb drive now as wee "speak"
[05:20] <IdleOne> niel: Please keep the language clean
[05:20] <reisio> IzzyD: there are installers you can run directly from Windows
[05:20] <andry> or, niel, https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[05:20] <niel> IdleOne, sorry :P
[05:20] <IzzyD> reisio: it's a windows 8 pre install system.
[05:22] <moppy> hi - does empathy have any messenger service plugins? i can't seem to find any
[05:23] <andry> moppy,  "apt-cache search empathy account plugin"
[05:24] <IzzyD> reisio: 1day left >> -dies-
[05:24] <reisio> moppy: it can support them
[05:24] <reisio> IzzyD: which server are you downloading from?
[05:25] <IzzyD> reisio: oh and wubi doesn't work
[05:25] <IzzyD> reisio: sourceforge
[05:25] <moppy> empathy uses libpurple? i can use pidgin plugins for it?
[05:25] <reisio> IzzyD: try this one instead http://is.gd/lefaqu
[05:26] <andry> i dont think you can moppy  :/
[05:26] <reisio> moppy: you can use libpurple
[05:26] <andry> it will just use the lib for some protocols
[05:27] <socialcoder> hello all
[05:27] <reisio> 'lo
[05:28] <socialcoder> I am just off windows 7 and new to ubuntu
[05:28] <reisio> neat
[05:28] <socialcoder> installed xchat-gnome
[05:28] <niel> andry, Changed the order of things around rebooted and well no change
[05:28] <socialcoder> how do I move to another server
[05:28] <reisio> socialcoder: /help server
[05:28] <moppy> i need steam over empathy; will try the pidgin plugin
[05:28] <socialcoder> I want to move to irc.codetalk.io
[05:28] <reisio> socialcoder: or you can do it from the menu / CTRL+s
[05:28] <andry> did you run it as root or did it ask for root pw niel?
[05:28] <IzzyD> reisio: back to just 2 hours ^^
[05:28] <socialcoder> I installed from terminal
[05:28] <socialcoder> using sudo
[05:28] <socialcoder> it asked for password
[05:28] <reisio> socialcoder: actually it might be newserver, not server
[05:29] <moppy> socialcoder, xchat->server menu
[05:29] <reisio> IzzyD: see if that one does better
[05:29] <niel> andry, it asked for my pass and I just opened it everything is the same as when I changed it
[05:29] <moppy> socialcoder, sorry, xchat->network list
[05:29] <socialcoder> honestly, I am not seeing it
[05:29] <socialcoder> there is no menu on top at all
[05:30] <reisio> /newserver irc.codetalk.io
[05:30] <IdleOne> socialcoder: type /server irc.codetalk.io in this window
[05:31] <moppy> grr synaptic does not set itself up in the dash :-(
[05:31] <babinlonston> using ubuntu 12.04 settingup a apache with ssl and facing error  , error.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6298975/
[05:31] <niel> andry, does not seem to work sadly
[05:32] <IzzyD> reisio: that is with the new one >>
[05:32] <andry> niel maybe have a look here u
[05:32] <andry> http://linuxnorth.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/grub2-revisited/
[05:32] <reisio> IzzyD: hrmm?
[05:32] <moppy> ah spoo, i just reinstalled and remembered the chrubuntu kernel doesn't have cifs support . will have to rebuild it . :-(
[05:32] <CallingFlunky3> Alright download about done. So, from the usb drive install ubuntu to the hdd and boot... should work yes?
[05:32] <andry> moppy, doesnt it come as module?
[05:33] <IzzyD> reisio:  the 2 hours is with the server you sent me.
[05:33] <moppy> andry, signed
[05:33] <reisio> IzzyD: k
[05:33] <andry> :(
[05:33] <moppy> as all kernels should be!
[05:34] <reisio> yes, all kernels should have modules available to utilize proprietary protocols most people don't need
[05:34] <andry> hehe well .. it is a nice-to-have running uefi boards
[05:35] <moppy> oh hang on, they seem to have added signed module support in 3.7
[05:35] <reisio> andry: what, cifs?
[05:36] <andry> no, signed kernels for secure boot
[05:36] <moppy> not really proprietary protocol
[05:36] <moppy> you can sign with your own key
[05:37] <reisio> ...was talking about cifs
[05:37] <andry> hm okay, never read THAT much about it
[05:37] <moppy> i dont have uefi
[05:37] <moppy> on this laptop
[05:37] <reisio> lucky you
[05:39] <moppy> ooh yea, libpurple (pidgin) plugins appear to work in empathy
[05:40] <andry> cool :)
[05:41] <digitalw00t> Hi everyone.
[05:42] <moppy> lol, i cant quit empathy from the gui
[05:42] <moppy> this thing is worse than pidgin. why the change?
[05:43] <kepka> ha
[05:43] <kepka> fucking people
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !language | kepka
[05:43] <kepka> okay
[05:44] <kepka> men
[05:44] <kepka> what's happened?
[05:45] <niel> anyone good with xfce know what these black panels are?
[05:45] <zexcriz> what is juju ?
[05:46] <niel> and how I get the open things on the top like xubuntu
[05:46] <niel> and the bottom bar
[05:46] <moppy> niel, right mouse over them, configure what they show
[05:46] <moppy> zexcriz, it's for servers, ignore
[05:46] <zexcriz> moppy, i want to know
[05:47] <moppy> zexcriz, it's some kind of tool for quickly installing and configuring lots of them
[05:47] <moppy> zexcriz, i don't know any more on that
[05:47] <zexcriz> moppy, installing and configuring multiple instances of ubuntu ?
[05:48] <moppy> zexcriz, https://juju.ubuntu.com/
[05:48] <niel> moppy, I actually think i have broken stuff is this caused by me not uninstallign unity and that stuff?
[05:55] <zexcriz> moppy, :)
[06:10] <digitalw00t> So I've got one of the edimax wifi usb adapater, I get an ip address from my dhcp server, default route is there, wiconfig is saying everything is running, but I can't get to anything.  Not my default gw, or any other machines on my network.
[06:15] <`Fibz`> how can i set it up so that i always hear audio from my mic through my speakers without having to pach the capture device to playback through qjackctl manually every time i log in?
[06:18] <yeehi> razer mamba mouse does not appear when i try to pair with bluetooth. Why is this? Bluetooth can pair other devices, which appear...  http://drivers.razersupport.com//index.php?_m=downloads&_a=view&parentcategoryid=76&pcid=0&nav=0
[06:18] <sgo11> hi, for ubuntu gnome 13.10, how to setup the lock screen background by gsettings? or by editing some config files. thanks.
[06:24] <man0riaX> Hello
[06:24] <andrew_76> join /#twitlive
[06:28] <arrow_> καλημερα
[06:34] <hillary> am unable to use libreoffice base to create database ubuntu 12.04
[06:35] <hillary> it displays error
[06:36] <hillary> "the connection to the data source could not be established'
[06:36] <Archyme> if the data source local?
[06:36] <Archyme> is*
[06:37] <hillary> yes
[06:37] <nnyk_> Hi, please where does apt keep .deb files that for packages ive installed?
[06:38] <hillary> the diver class org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver could not be loaded
[06:39] <PillowTalk> Hello
[06:39] <Archyme> nnyk_, it should be /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:39] <Jamer> Pi:PillowTalk:
[06:39] <nnyk_> Archyme: yes it is, thanks!
[06:41] <hillary> anybody with an idea?
[06:42] <Archyme> hillary, from what i can google, it looks like you need to install hsqldb. take my advice at your own risk :D
[06:43] <PillowTalk> i am getting ready to install ubuntu x64 and just wanted to ask a quick question please, what speed does your hdd have to be please
[06:44] <Archyme> PillowTalk, im sure that as long as you meet all other system requirements, you will be fine!
[06:44] <PillowTalk> archyme than you i was just checking :-)
[06:45] <Cestus> My HDD is a Western Digital "green", not fast by any stretch.  Ubuntu x64 runs great
[06:45] <muhammad> how r u
[06:46] <PillowTalk> out of those two drives what one would be better please.   http://imageshack.us/f/36/ehls.png/         http://imageshack.us/a/img36/6925/sewx.png
[06:47] <PillowTalk> one has 8mb cache other has 16mbcache
[06:47] <Cestus> The AAJS seems better in every way...  :)
[06:49] <PillowTalk> cestus aajs has 8mb cache and that will be enough ? i really do appreciate help
[06:50] <babinlonston> i want to add this to my repository in ubuntu 12.04 is it possible ?  http://artica.es/debian/squeeze/
[06:50] <sgo11> gdm is crazy. where can I find out gdm config files? just want to replace its background. thanks.
[06:51] <k1l_> babinlonston: you want a debian source into your ubuntu?
[06:51] <Cestus> PillowTalk:  I think so.  Honestly, the difference in cache size between the two drives is small
[06:51] <k1l_> sgo11: sure it gdm? ubuntu uses lightdm as default
[06:51] <Cestus> PillowTalk:  Besides, the filesystem has its own cache and flushes stuff out to disk in bulk afaik
[06:52] <sgo11> k1l_, it's gdm. I installed ubuntu-gnome 13.10.
[06:52] <`Fibz`> babinlonston, try running that generate_repo.sh command
[06:52] <PillowTalk> Thank you very much cestus i will use taht drive to install ubuntu
[06:52] <Cestus> np - have fun!
[06:52] <robertzaccour> I found out I have inferior graphics for Linux. My graphics card is an AMD Radeon 7640G. Is there a way to install the Windows driver for it?
[06:53] <hillary> Thanks so much. I have install it and it has worked well
[06:54] <Archyme> hillary, your welcome!
[06:55] <babinlonston> k1l_: yes
[06:55] <babinlonston> ok
[06:56] <Ben64> robertzaccour: no...
[06:57] <robertzaccour> Ben64: How are you sure? I thought Windows drivers could be installed.
[06:57] <XATRIX> Hi guys, can you advice me a MySQL GUI client ? Like Navicat MySQL, but maybe there's free one ?
[06:58] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  Can't use Windows drivers directly, but AMD does have the Catalyst drivers for Linux.  Latest is 13.9 I think
[06:58] <brontosaurusrex> XATRIX, phpmyadmin ?
[06:58] <XATRIX> No no no.. It's a server-side
[06:58] <XATRIX> I need some GUI to connect to my server from my laptop
[06:58] <robertzaccour> Cestus: Would it work with my gpu?
[06:58] <k1l_> robertzaccour: Cestus no, dont download it from the amd site. use the driver that ubuntu ships for you first
[06:59] <k1l_> !fglrx | robertzaccour
[06:59] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  Ah, I see, it's an APU.  A8 I'm guessing...
[06:59] <robertzaccour> k1l_: I booted Kubuntu live session earlier and some of the effects didn't work, which tells me it has inferior default drivers.
[07:01] <robertzaccour> Cestus: So I should be able to install it just fine?
[07:01] <chris111> how do I find out what my access level is in ubuntu?
[07:02] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  This page has some more info:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/207733/why-does-my-laptop-with-amd-radeon-hd-76xx-graphics-get-overheated-when-using-ub
[07:03] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  Here is the driver straight from AMD:  http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64
[07:03] <Cestus> I have an A10 in my desktop, and I used the driver from AMD without issue.  I couldn't get the version from ubuntu (the "use proprietary drivers" thing) to work right
[07:07] <robertzaccour> Cestus: thanks. Is this the one here? http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/737-28041SupportforATIMobility.aspx
[07:08] <robertzaccour> Cestus: I didn't see mine in the search list, so I selected other then Linux 64 bit
[07:09] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  Weird, that's the links for Windows drivers.  stupid AMD web site, lol
[07:09] <robertzaccour> Cestus: Yeah, the search criteria had 7xxxm but not 7xxxg
[07:10] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  I'm pretty sure the 7640G is a built-in chip that's part of the AMD A8 processor.  They call it an "APU"
[07:10] <XATRIX> brontosaurusrex: http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4279604
[07:11] <brontosaurusrex> XATRIX, my cirilica is pretty crappy and my rusian non-existant, whats the point?
[07:11] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  From here you can pick the "APU" category, then desktop (or mobile), then A-series, then Linux_x86_64
[07:12] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
[07:12] <XATRIX> brontosaurusrex: You don't have to :) I found a good GUI for MySQL, and it's free
[07:13] <brontosaurusrex> XATRIX, cool
[07:13] <XATRIX> sure ;)
[07:13] <digitalw00t> Is it just me.. or is networkmanager the most fragile service in linux?
[07:14] <digitalw00t> You so much as touch anything.. and it stops working
[07:14] <brontosaurusrex> btw, it is possible to use phpmyadmin to connect to remote databases as well apparently, never tested that thought
[07:14] <Cestus> digitalw00t:  Workaround is to just not touch anything.  :P
[07:14] <robertzaccour> Cestus: Got it thanks. Only issue now is I click the link and it just reloads the page.
[07:14] <robertzaccour> Cestus: I'll try when I boot into Kubuntu live session after work.
[07:14] <digitalw00t> Cestus:  hehe.. yeah.  Not really an option.
[07:15] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  Cool, good luck!
[07:15] <digitalw00t> Cestus: Trying to update my linux skills.  Never used it as a desktop before, always a server.
[07:15] <robertzaccour> thanks Cestus
[07:15] <digitalw00t> Cestus:  And as such, I normally turn off the networkmanager and configure everything myself.
[07:16] <Cestus> digitalw00t:  I'm by no means an expert.  Especially networking.  DHCP runs, I get my IP from my router, and I'm happy.  lol
[07:17] <Cestus> digitalw00t:  I've done network configuration on Arch, but so far I've been lucky on Ubuntu.  Most everything just works (TM)
[07:18] <digitalw00t> Cestus:  Yeah.. I'm an rpm based guy myself most of the time, but mint/ubuntu/angstrom are forcing me out of my "comfort zone"
[07:20] <Cestus> digitalw00t:  The world's move to mobile consumption-only devices is getting me out of my comfort zone.  I'm clinging to my desktop forever.  :)
[07:20] <k1l_> digitalw00t: if you configure the network in the interfaces the networkmanager stops managing that device
[07:22] <chris111> another quick question, is there any easy way to compile a MSVS c++ project for linux?
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> Cestus, As the spiritual sages say "you can't take it with you".
[07:23] <Cestus> wilee-nilee:  hehe yeah.  Gonna have to switch to wireless in the underworld.  :P
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[07:24] <Cestus> chris111:  Depends - does the project use Windows-specific libraries?  Win32 / MFC / WinRT / etc.
[07:26] <Cestus> chris111:  Oh - unless you mean writing a Linux app using MSVS on Windows...
[07:28] <Cestus> omg - hahah been so bosy coding tonight, I totally missed that it's 12:30AM.  wow, need some sleep
[07:29] <Cestus> busy*  gn guys
[07:31] <MrQuist> Hey Guys,
[07:31] <MrQuist> i just ran Gource
[07:31] <MrQuist> and i think it messed something up
[07:31] <MrQuist> My displays are mirrored
[07:31] <MrQuist> When i go into display settings, the "mirror" isn't checked
[07:32] <MrQuist> when i press "apply", i get this error message: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface `org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR_2' on object at path /org/gnome/SettingsDaemon/XRANDR
[07:32] <MrQuist> The title is "Failed to apply configuration: %s"
[07:32] <MrQuist> i ave already reset my pc
[07:32] <MrQuist> laptop*
[07:33] <`Fibz`> install AR&R (if its not) and use that?
[07:34] <MrQuist> Australian Rainfall and Runoff?
[07:35] <`Fibz`> its ubuntu's Advanced Resize and Rotate app (its for messing with screen settings)
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !randr
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !xrandr
[07:35] <MrQuist> cool thanks, will try
[07:35] <`Fibz`> did not know that
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> hmm. old factoid
[07:37] <MrQuist> oh my god this is weird
[07:37] <MrQuist> but so cool at the same time
[07:38] <MrQuist> i have 40% of my IRC window on my external monitor
[07:38] <MrQuist> and 100% on my laptop
[07:39] <MrQuist> holy cow
[07:39] <MrQuist> its fixed
[07:39] <MrQuist> Why does ubuntu work so good but does the gui make it look like crap?
[07:39] <MrQuist> thanks `Fibz` & Dr_Willis
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> i rarely have dual monitor issues with my nvidia based desktop
[07:41] <k1l_> no issues for me on nvidia or intel, too
[07:41] <`Fibz`> im just one of the lucky ones i guess
[07:41] <MrQuist> intel i7, on a lenovo thinkpad (T530)
[07:41] <MrQuist> i had issues with my sound card
[07:42] <MrQuist> no 3D / texture support (or something like that)
[07:42] <MrQuist> external mini-displayport not working
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> no 3d on the soune card? ;)
[07:42] <MrQuist> hahah
[07:42] <MrQuist> no i mean with the GPU
[07:42] <MrQuist> the sound card was a problem apart from that
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> theres a thinkpad forum i belive on the ubuntu forums. Ive never owned a thinkpad.
[07:43] <MrQuist> (no sound, unless i plug in headphones, then there's sound.. from the laptop....
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> I tend to stick to cheap netbooks
[07:43] <MrQuist> they are great machines, really
[07:43] <MrQuist> they even bring m pre-installed with ubuntu :)
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> hard for me to justify more then $300 for a new laptop these days - all i do is IRC and watch videos on them
[07:43] <MrQuist> 8GB Ram, i run ~7 virtual machines with ease
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> and even that  - i do on my tablet more and more.
[07:44] <MrQuist> yeah then you wont need a beast of a machine
[07:44] <MrQuist> i'm a developer of highend webapplications
[07:44] <MrQuist> i need a beast
[07:44] <MindSpark> lol
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> i would like a netbook with a higher res screen. some apps just dont like the  low res display
[07:44] <MindSpark> MrQuist: get yourself the biggest instance on AWS
[07:45] <MindSpark> EC2
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> I had a beast of a Laptop weighed like 18 lbs with the charger.. ;) 19 in dispplay. 2 hd's .. sold it to my brother. I couldent stand to carry it back an dforth
[07:48] <AtuM> Dr_Willis, same here.. sold it and got a lightweight alternative with a 15" screen.. I just couldn't stand the weight and comments like "oh, here comes the mobile cinema"
[07:49] <MrQuist> we host ourselves MindSpark
[07:49] <bittyx-work> Hiya. When editing my ~/.bashrc, what's the difference between doing "PS1='foo'" and "export PS1='foo'"?
[07:49] <MrQuist> but i mean to develop you need quite some development VM's to be running
[07:49] <MrQuist> I believe "export" doesn't get saves, bittyx-work
[07:49] <MindSpark> MrQuist: to develop? or to deploy?
[07:49] <MrQuist> develop ofcourse
[07:49] <MindSpark> you don't develop in modules?
[07:49] <MrQuist> we have dedicated machines to deploy
[07:50] <MindSpark> I mean how big can a module be?
[07:50] <MindSpark> unless you're doing lots of compilation work of course
[07:50] <MrQuist> what do you mean with "module" ?
[07:50] <MindSpark> Well, if you're basically working on a module by module basis. You would only need to do unit testing in a way
[07:50] <MindSpark> or unit development per se
[07:51] <MindSpark> you wouldn't need a system that would run the entire platform
[07:51] <CIDR> Can I remove pulseaudio and just use alsa?
[07:51] <MrQuist> no not everything
[07:51] <bittyx-work> MrQuist: Not sure I understand what you mean? If I do "export", it gets saved automatically? Ie. I don't really need to put it in .bashrc then?
[07:51] <MindSpark> but then again, are you developing using huge db's for example? Because this is not the approach I take
[07:52] <MrQuist> MindSpark, we have an API, a frontend, a small developement DB, a dedicated machine with a development database, 4 dedicated machines for testing, QA,
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  anytime ive seen someone try to remove pulse audio to 'fix' things they seem to come back a day later after doing a clean  install. ;) so i dont advise it
[07:54] <MindSpark> you see, for the frontend you just need bandwidth. Now for the API, depending on how complex it is and what algorithms and mechanisms it implements, you may need a bigger machine. But still, for development, you're never really utitlising the entire system at once like in a live one, are you?
[07:54] <CIDR> Dr_Willis: heh
[07:54] <CIDR> I can't bitstream with it...
[07:54] <CIDR> only allows 2 channel audio voer hdmi
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> not even sure what bitstream means. :) but my tv is stero only.  So cant really advise.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> you can set specific video players to use alsa and not pulse.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> vlc audio settings -> output module -> select alsa
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> then close/restart vlc
[07:56] <MrQuist> Dr_Willis, yes, we do
[07:57] <MrQuist> but indeed, when you boot up the development environment, the first few calls to frontend still take about 5 seconds
[07:58] <CIDR> Doesn't work for xbmc
[07:58] <Calinou> I'm updating to xubuntu 13.10, but ppa-purge didn't remove my ppa-provided nvidia driver
[07:58] <Calinou> will I have problems?
[07:58] <MrQuist> bittyx-work, what i mean is that i _believe_ "export" temporarily writes to the memory - the setting is gone once you reboot / log in again
[07:58] <MrQuist> when editing the file its saved on disk, so remembered
[07:58] <Calinou> if I do what can I do to prevent them?
[08:01] <MindSpark> as far as I know Pulseaudio runs over alsa
[08:01] <Calinou> it does
[08:01] <MindSpark> so it should be possible to skip PA and just use Alsa, but you'd probably miss out on some features
[08:02] <MindSpark> is OSS still used in anyway?
[08:02] <MindSpark> it's been some time since I used Linux as a PC
[08:02] <CIDR> I have no way to force xbmc to use alsa
[08:02] <CIDR> lame
[08:02] <MindSpark> CIDR: check out jackaudio
[08:03] <MindSpark> CIDR: you shouldn't need to "force" it anyway, should run by default IMO
[08:03] <Calinou> OSS isn't really used these days
[08:03] <Calinou> debian uses alsa, fedora/ubuntu/mint use pulseaudio
[08:05] <CIDR> Issues is if I uninstall pulse audio works great in xbmc
[08:06] <CIDR> passthrough works, bitstreaming works etc...
[08:06] <CIDR> but then I have no audio at all in ubuntu like flash videos etc...  Is there a way to get ubuntu to work with only alsa?
[08:10] <MindSpark> CIDR: did you run alsamixer?
[08:10] <MindSpark> you might need to configure xorg or X11 or whatever it is called these days
[08:11] <CIDR> MindSpark: alsamixer doesn't have anything muted
[08:11] <CIDR> Not sure how I tell X to use alsa?
[08:11] <MindSpark> CIDR: which version are you on?
[08:11] <CIDR> saucy
[08:12] <MindSpark> CIDR: did you read the last paragraph on here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[08:13] <CIDR> MindSpark: problem is it needs diredct hardware access so that doesn't work
[08:13] <MindSpark> what needs direct hardware access?
[08:13] <CIDR> xbmc
[08:15] <andriijas> when i do do-release-upgrade it crashes after a while:  https://gist.github.com/andriijas/7143853    any ideas?
[08:18] <CIDR> If I remove pulse I have no audio devices in ubuntu
[08:18] <CIDR> This is so obnoxious
[08:18] <ronin> does anyone know what I need to play .mp4 in VLC. it says i'm missing a plugin.
[08:18] <ronin> in clementine I mean
[08:18] <ronin> vlc works
[08:19] <ronin> gstreamer is missing a plugin i get
[08:30] <bazhang> ronin, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:31] <CIDR> Well wtf.  Can't figure out how to get normal stuff in ubuntu to work with alsa now
[08:32] <ezra-s> CIDR, you have to specify default output device in audio settings
[08:32] <CIDR> I can't, when I remove pulse there are 0 audio devices in audio settings...  they're in xbmc, and work fine, but not in options
[08:32] <CIDR> Only way this worked before was using lubuntu because it doesn't use pulse...
[08:33] <ronin> no, argh I misclicked and refused to eula
[08:33] <ronin> not even --purge remove + install asks it again
[08:34] <Xethron> hahaha
[08:34] <Xethron> unlucky
[08:35] <Ben64> CIDR: how did you uninstall pulseaudio
[08:35] <CIDR> I attempted to just disable it from loading
[08:35] <CIDR> I also did an apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio
[08:36] <Ben64> yep, that breaks audio
[08:36] <AdityaRaj> hey guys, i have dell vostro laptop and it has inbuilt finger print scanner. i am trying to set it up for login etc. can anyone help me with this please?
[08:36] <CIDR> Hang on
[08:36] <CIDR> I also installed alsamixer, etc...
[08:36] <Ben64> doesn't matter, you broke it
[08:36] <CIDR> I've also tried disabling pulseaudio but the results were the same
[08:37] <ezra-s> CIDR, silly question but, have you rebooted after all the remove/install mess?
[08:37] <CIDR> Yes
[08:37] <CIDR> over and over
[08:37] <ezra-s> hehe
[08:37] <Ben64> i don't know where everybody sees something to purge pulseaudio, but that breaks audio about 100% of the time
[08:38] <CIDR> I'm over it now.  Gave up, install lubuntu which doesn't use pulse
[08:38] <ezra-s> CIDR, if it is a default package you removed chances are you can get it all again by apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or some general task package like that one
[08:38] <CIDR> I have no desire to get it again.
[08:38] <CIDR> It jacks up my audio passthrough
[08:38] <Ben64> ezra-s: from what i remember, that doesn't fix the purging
[08:38] <ezra-s> best thing is to try to understand what happened
[08:39] <Ben64> its much easier to remove pulseaudio by doing "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio"
[08:39] <CIDR> What happens is pulse doesn't work with hd passthrough
[08:39] <Ben64> its what i did, everything works fine for me with alsa
[08:39] <ezra-s> Ben64, packages should bring their own configuration files, that's like saying installing anew would not fix it
[08:39] <CIDR> That was what I did first...
[08:39] <CIDR> I've done about 30 things.
[08:39] <CIDR> apt-get remove pulseaudio, then reboot
[08:39] <CIDR> nothing in ubuntu worked, but xbmc worked fine with the proper audio device selected
[08:39] <ezra-s> CIDR, you don't use pulse for passthrough and use alsa directly from xbmc
[08:40] <CIDR> I'd love to, but I can't...
[08:40] <ezra-s> CIDR it is apt-get purge pulseaudio to remove cfg files
[08:40] <CIDR> if pulse is installed XBMC no longer has the proper passthrough device.
[08:40] <ezra-s> CIDR, xbmc sometimes require you to specify the device in a very manual way for passthrough, I suffered through it too
[08:41] <CIDR> I can find no manual way...
[08:41] <CIDR> Other than in settings,system,audio, audio output asks for an passthrough device.
[08:41] <CIDR> The selections go away when pulse is installed
[08:41] <ezra-s> for instance
[08:41] <ezra-s> I had to manually set it like "iec958:CARD=SB,DEV=0"
[08:41] <ezra-s> otherwise it would not work
[08:41] <CIDR> back in the day they allowed you to do that
[08:42] <CIDR> in 11.x
[08:42] <CIDR> in 12.x that option no longer even exsists
[08:42] <ezra-s> CIDR, ohh
[08:42] <ezra-s> CIDR, and by hand in the config file? http://apaste.info/hgdi
[08:43] <CIDR> It's no longer the same...
[08:43] <CIDR> I wish it was.
[08:43] <ezra-s> CIDR there must be a way to tell xbmc to use ALSA
[08:43] <ezra-s> I don't have my xbmc here
[08:43] <ezra-s> so I can't check
[08:44] <no_gravity> Hello! It seems Ubuntu on one of my servers updated itself last night. I didnt know it has some automatic updates. How do I find out if and why it updated?
[08:44] <CIDR> There is, remove pulse audio...
[08:44] <ezra-s> CIDR, no, I mean manually
[08:44] <CIDR> I know what you mean, but I can't find the settings anywhere
[08:44] <ezra-s> it makes not much sense that you can't choose what you use for sound output
[08:44] <CIDR> just countless threads of people having the same issues as me
[08:45] <CIDR> agreed, but it seems to be an issue with the new audio engine that's in 12.x
[08:45] <ezra-s> CIDR, do you use that box mainly as xbmc player?
[08:45] <CIDR> 60-70% of the timem.
[08:45] <CIDR> But I also stream pac-12 games etc... via chrome.
[08:45] <ezra-s> CIDR, you could use xbmcbuntu :P
[08:45] <ezra-s> it is based in 12.04 If I recall correctly
[08:46] <ezra-s> ideal for steam, and all works out of the box
[08:46] <ezra-s> even in hybrid mobo pcs like zotac (my case) I didn't even have to worry about overscan and things like that
[08:46] <CIDR> hrmmm
[08:50] <boviba> can i update wubi installed 12.04 to 13.10?
[08:51] <Zorky> The gzip command  run like this gzip -r <foldername> only zips the files inside the folder. but i want the folder zipped with everything in it.
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> boviba:  wubi is basically a dead project. I would get away from it as soon as possible
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: tar -cvf filename.tar.gz directory_to_compress
[08:55] <zexcriz> what is JabberServer used for ?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> zexcriz: chatting
[08:56] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  Thanks :)
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> i just use my raspberry pi for a xmbc box CIDR  ;) but im cheap.
[09:05] <CIDR> Yeah.
[09:05] <CIDR> I have a decent box for it.
[09:05] <jack> Dr_Willis, good choice
[09:05] <CIDR> Since I like the high quality audio/video.
[09:06]  * Dr_Willis has high quality gilligans island videos..
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[09:06] <CIDR> Heh
[09:06] <CIDR> https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/61760_10151504067554414_1360911688_n.jpg
[09:07] <jack> was it hard to assemble/solder the raspberry pi?
[09:07] <CIDR> I like my DTS-HD/1080p etc...
[09:07] <zexcriz> ActionParsnip, ok
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> jack:  no soldering needed.
[09:07] <jack> cool
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> jack:  theres addon board kits you can buy you assemble. but  dont use those
[09:08] <CIDR> Although the raspi stuff has came a long way.  you can do 1080p h.264
[09:08] <CIDR> and it's like 35 bucks, so it's really hard to beat
[09:08] <jack> indeed
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> Plex server on your ubuntu box. and plex-pi on the pi = Instant streaming client on your tv. ;)
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> but i got the plex channel on my smart-tv's ;) so i use the pi to run xbmc to stream to them
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> I can get 'I Dream of Jeannie' on every tv in the house.
[09:09] <l01> How do I launch abiword on the gfahpical shell (Ctrl+Alt+F7) while I'm being on a virtual console? I get error message "Could not open X display"
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> l01:  export your DISPLAY variable first
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> would be a common value
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: android usb stciks, does a bit more for not much more green :)
[09:12] <l01> Dr_Willis: Tried it, doesn't open abiword, I get the same message
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> I got an android desktop thing that does android or its own xbmc disrto.  but the thing runs a lot hott-er  then my pie
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: plus Netflix ability :)
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> l01:  on the X display see what the  echo $DISPLAY says
[09:12] <juan__> Hello. Somebody can read me, please?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> juan__: wassup?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  Ive had some that dont want to run netflix android app sadly. :0 but they did do Crunchyroll.com fine. ;)
[09:13] <juan__> OK
[09:13] <juan__> Thanks ActionParsnip
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> xbmc and plex client for android also make them flexiable devices.
[09:13] <sujx> How to manually switch the  ubuntu theme?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: exactly :)
[09:14] <l01> It says ":1.0" (without quotes) so I did on virtual console: export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:1.0 and started abiword, still does not work, get the same message
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> sujx: of the whole desktop you mean?
[09:14] <sujx>  or how to manually run ubuntu theme
[09:14] <sujx> en whole desktop
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  ive also seen a lot of weirdness with those android-box's ;)  some apps really get confused by them.
[09:14] <Ben64> l01: why <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:14] <juan__> I have a problem with update sistem in Ubuntu 12.04 and ASUS Eee X101CH. I can't update because the system don't find the medibuntu package
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> sujx: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue   and which desktop are you using?
[09:14] <jack> l01, try :1.0
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> juan__: medibuntu is gone
[09:15] <juan__> OK
[09:15] <l01> yeah without <IP_ADDRESS> it worked
[09:15] <juan__> And the solution?
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> juan__:  disable medibuntu. its dead jim
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> ive not seen a need for medibuntu in ages
[09:15] <l01> thanks very much Dr_Willis and Ben64 and jack =D
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> l01:  thats odd.. since <IP_ADDRESS> is your local ip.
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> juan__: remove the repo, you can use software centre, or delete the medibuntu file/s in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[09:15] <jack> np,you're welcome
[09:16] <juan__> One moment. I am looking for software centre
[09:16] <sujx> ubuntu 12.04
[09:17] <sujx> lightdm
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> sujx: no...gnome? XFCE? KDE? LXDE?
[09:18] <jack> sounds very light
[09:18] <sujx> gnome
[09:19] <juan__> I cant to delete medibuntu.list
[09:19] <juan__> Why?
[09:19] <diverdude> Hello, if i create a user called asdf, how can i autogenerate a password and send it by mail? Or what is the normal procedure to create users?
[09:19] <jack> why lightdm sujx ?
[09:19] <jack> try metacity
[09:21] <juan__> I am not very expert in delete files from some places in Ubuntu. I wish to delete medibuntu.list in etc/apt/sources.list.d Can you help me, please?
[09:21] <sujx> My software, started before the login screen in ubuntu, if I do not manually open the Themes service, software interface will become very ugly
[09:21] <Ben64> juan__: don't just delete it manually, purge the ppa
[09:22] <Ben64> !ppa-purge | juan__
[09:22] <juan__> I dont know how to purge
[09:22] <Zorky> how do i tar a folder without retaining the dir setup. i want to tar a folder in /users/username/desktop but when i do tar -zcvf folder.tar.gz /user/username/desktop/foldername  i get this in the tar.gz file. /user/username/desktop/foldername. how do i ONLY tar the folder foldername
[09:22] <Ben64> read that
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> jack:  lightdm is a login manager.. metacity is a window manager.
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> sujx:  you need to start up the gnome services for the apps to get the right theme settings
[09:24] <juan__> I was reading http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html, but I dont know the complete name of medibuntu
[09:25] <juan__> PPA
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> look in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ files
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> it shoul dhave a file in there for it
[09:25] <jack> Dr_Willis, oops? i could have sworn lightdm is a wm too
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> jack:   *dm = display managers.. your Login Managers.  xdm, kdm, gdm, lightdm,  and others.
[09:26] <jack> ok
[09:26] <juan__> Thanks guys. I dont solve my problem. See you.
[09:26] <worm> lightdm is the default login manager in Ubuntu, and I thought you confused lightdm with unity, the default DE of ubuntu
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> flvwm, jwm, olvwm = window managers. ;) then the new ones dont use the wm in the names.
[09:27] <sujx> i want start up my apps before gnome services.so i need to manually open the themes service
[09:27] <leonid> Zorky: tar -C /user/username/desktop  -zcvf folder.tar.gz foldername
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> sujx:  why do you want to start them up befor that?
[09:28] <Boddhii> excuse me
[09:28] <junir> hello everyone, is there a free alternative to non-ö IM clients?
[09:28] <junir> sorry :) non-free IM clients*
[09:29] <junir> I mean one which connects to webcam
[09:29] <ikonia> junir: such as ?
[09:29] <k1l_> junir: what about empathy and pidgin?
[09:29] <ikonia> junir: which non-free clients do you wish to replace with web-cam enabled open-source versions
[09:29] <andybrine> Hey everyone
[09:30] <junir> k1l_ can I connect to webcam with empathy?
[09:30] <k1l_> junir: and are you talking about clients or protocols?
[09:30] <junir> ikonia, skype, for example
[09:30] <ikonia> junir: "no" is the answer to that specific client
[09:30] <Boddhii> i have ubuntu 12.04 on and I stupidly installed false graphic driver on my os, and it nuked the unity desktop.how to revert it?
[09:30] <Boddhii> my desktop always blink and the panel goes to bottom
[09:30] <andybrine> I have just updated to 13.10 and have a black background that im unable to change. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[09:30] <k1l_> junir: the question is if the non-free protocol allowes other clients. which is "no" for skype
[09:30] <junir> k1l_ I mean a free one which I can chat and see the person at the same time
[09:31] <junir> ikonia, k1l_  I'd like to use a free program that can chat with and view the other person
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> andybrine:  see if the issue affects a newly made user
[09:31] <ikonia> junir: you need to be specific
[09:31] <k1l_> junir: and you still need a chat protocol for that, too
[09:32] <andybrine> Ok, thanks Dr_Willis. Ill try that
 s boss !  it`s not my mean
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> sujx:  what?
[09:32] <k1l_> junir: you could use empathy with the google talk protocol to do video chats
[09:33] <roland_> hi i have a usb drive that is no longer mounting of displaying in any way. what is the first thing to do to see if it can be detected at all
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> roland_:  sudo blkid, and see if you can mount it by hand
[09:33] <k1l_> junir: well, you only need the jabber protocol and the jungle extension
[09:34] <junir> ikonia, k1l_ I understand. I am asking not for a free client where I can use non-free IM. I mean a software that is just free
[09:34] <junir> k1l_ I have jabber, but I wasn't sure if I can connect to camera with it. is it possible?
[09:34] <k1l_> junir: see the jingle extension, yes
[09:35] <diverdude> Hello, if i create a user called asdf, how can i autogenerate a password and send it by mail? Or what is the normal procedure to create users?
[09:35] <daixtr> can anacron work, even without cron?
[09:35] <roland_> Dr_Willis: that returns an sda1,sda2 and sda3. both with the drive pluged in and not
[09:35] <junir> k1l_ oh, great, I'll try right away, thank you very much k1l_ and ikonia!
[09:35] <daixtr> diverdude: use `pwgen`
[09:35] <k1l_> junir: (i think in ubuntu its already installed by default
[09:35] <roland_> Dr_Willis: so am i all out of luck
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> roland_:  check dmesg output a few moments after you plug it in also. sonds like it may be dead jim.
[09:36] <junir> k1l_ I had installed jabber, as a program named psi+ , is it correct that way?
[09:36] <k1l_> junir: no you are confusing protocol, server and clients
[09:37] <junir> k1l_  oh
[09:37] <k1l_> junir: you need a client (empathy) a protocol (xmmp/jabber) and then a server (like a jabber server from google etc)
[09:38] <k1l_> !jabber | junir
[09:39] <junir> k1l_ thank you for your information! I think I'll need to do some learning here.
[09:40] <diverdude> daixtr, ok...and once i generated the password with pwgen, how does the user get it?
[09:40] <daixtr> echo 'new_password123' | mail -s "$(hostname) new password alert"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:41] <roland_> Dr_Willis:  this is all i get, i cant get it to say connected.: usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 7
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> roland_:  sounds like it may be dead.
[09:42] <roland_> Dr_Willis:  damn, thanks anyway
[09:42] <linu> hi i just trying to compile a sample qt apps in ubuntu 12.04 for arm arch using yocto toolchain , it shows that http://pastebin.com/Frcg4PR9 can you tell me what is that issues
[09:43] <ikonia> linu: if you are compiling for arm, why are you using the x86_64 sdk ?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> roland_:  shake it real hard.. and blow on it.. oh wait.. thats for Nintendo Cartridges
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> lO
[09:43] <halt> Hi all, I try to enable the server-status page on apache, and the daufault module in ubuntu already have config related to it, so i think it shoiuld be just a2enmod status, but it does not seams to work, can someone give me a hint how is this implemented in ubuntu ?
[09:44] <sgo11> hi, how to enable auto login with gsettings command? thanks.
[09:44] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[09:44] <roland_> Dr_Willis: well i will pull it apart and look for dead solder joints
[09:44] <arc__> hi can someone help me with boot-repair
[09:44] <Wiz_KeeD> All laptops that have integrated GPU and a separate graphics card need the bumblebee thing installed on ubuntu?
[09:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Shopping for a new laptop and i'm killed between decision
[09:45] <sgo11> OR how to enable auto login in command line? thanks.
[09:47] <Wiz_KeeD> any1?
[09:48] <linu> ikonia, no it is default path name of compiler for arm and before it was working fine with other qt apps,
[09:48] <sgo11> anyway, I found it.
[09:49] <diverdude> how do i setup the system so i can send mail from commandline via a remote mailserver?
[09:49] <Touhou11> Wiz_KeeD: Macbook (Air if travelling a lot, Pro otherwise). Superior battery life and hardware to anything else
[09:49] <Wiz_KeeD> but I will have to run mac then :)
[09:50] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: dual boot
[09:50] <halt> Wiz_KeeD: system76
[09:50]  * gordonjcp has a macbook
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> will ubuntu run with it ok? what if i want windows as well :)
[09:50] <Touhou11> Wiz_KeeD: You can run Linux on them, but sadly OS X gets a much battery life in my experience
[09:50] <gordonjcp> works great with both Ubuntu and OSX
[09:51] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: mine's okay, I've never tried Windows though
[09:51] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: I tried it on a desktop but I couldn't get it to install
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[09:51] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: I'm not enough of a propeller-beany nerd to understand Windows ;-)
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> nevr understod the macbook fascination. Its a 2000 dollar facebook machine....go figure
[09:53] <Wiz_KeeD> hahahahaha
[09:53]  * Wiz_KeeD laughs
[09:53] <Wiz_KeeD> This one looks great...but again that optimus piece of shit
[09:53] <Wiz_KeeD> http://www.emag.ro/laptop-samsung-cu-procesor-intel-174-core-small-sup-tm-sup-small-i5-3210m-2-50ghz-ivy-bridge-8gb-1tb-nvidia-geforce-gt-650m-2gb-microsoft-windows-8-silver-np550p5c-s03ro/pd/EVK0NBBBM/
[09:53] <FloodBot1> Wiz_KeeD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:53] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: systemd / Wayland have borrowed ideas heavily from OS X architecture, so wouldn't be so quick to judge
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: yes but the hardware of Mac is so overpriced
[09:54] <malinus> "overpriced" ActionParsnip ?  Or be fancy when taking your notebook out in starbucks?
[09:56] <Gspot> guys does anyone have to suggest me a good movie player for ubuntu? i tried many of them and all they have little lag in HD movies..
[09:57] <malinus> Gspot, vlc is fine
[09:57] <arun_007> hii
[09:57] <halt> Wiz_KeeD: http://bit.ly/IBhlUH
[09:58] <Ben64> Gspot: i use mplayer2
[09:58] <Wiz_KeeD> halt, it does look sexy...
[09:59] <Gspot> i tried but have little lag.. and freezing you know is not something important but you can realize it
[09:59] <Ben64> thats probably a problem with your system or the video
[10:00] <Wiz_KeeD> wow halt, that has pretty much everything I want, ssd space, high ram, numpad
[10:01] <halt> Wiz_KeeD:  and ubuntu as default
[10:01] <Wiz_KeeD> pffuu, who are these guys? I never heard of them...but I doubt they have warranty in Romania :)
[10:01] <Gspot> well with the same pc i used windows before some months and in 1 player doesnt have anything of these
[10:03] <Ben64> Gspot: did you read what i said? it could be the video is bad
[10:04] <Ben64> Gspot: also could be your video drivers, the output of the video, or other stuff in increasingly unlikely scenarios, you've given no information so its impossible to tell
[10:04] <Gspot> oh maybe.. but isnt only 1 video, in all hd videos does that
[10:05] <ozbrk> hi guys I'm wondering about can I use openbox as a file manager with unity
[10:05] <ozbrk> without any break points
[10:05] <m3kk> hi, i suddenly lost all sound? i run pavucontrol and while i run a youtube video it shows dB goes up and down like there is actual sound.. but there is none? I have not tried to configure anything since it was working out of the box
[10:06] <Wiz_KeeD> halt, I need to find someone in the US or UK to buy it and ship it
[10:08] <helmut_> hi
[10:09] <halt> Wiz_KeeD: you wrote UK because you check my location ? :D
[10:11] <ozbrk> I guess noone hasn't any answer about thar
[10:11] <ozbrk> that-
[10:11] <m3kk> ozbrk, guess not
[10:12] <m3kk> It just out of the blue stoped.. like its muted but its not
[10:12] <ozbrk> m3kk can you hear the sounds on a different platform
[10:12] <m3kk> ozbrk, different platform?
[10:13] <ozbrk> windows-mac-android
[10:13] <ozbrk> -bsd
[10:13] <m3kk> You mean if i install another OS?
[10:13] <ozbrk> yes ı'm asking that because I need to know if your speakers have a different problem
[10:13] <ozbrk> like a mechanical problem
[10:14] <m3kk> ozbrk, yeah it have worked in windows and xubuntu for long time and suddenly stoped today.. i will try liveusb and see if it works there
[10:14] <ozbrk> m3kk which audio mixer do you use
[10:15] <ozbrk> pulseaudio + xfcemixer
[10:15] <m3kk> ozbrk, i have no idea i cant find any settings for sound in settings? just if i run pavucontrol from terminal
[10:15] <m3kk> ozbrk, where can  i see what im running?
[10:16] <ozbrk> xfcemizer is more lightwweight I mean it has less graphichal options
[10:16] <m3kk> ozbrk, "pulseaudio , demon already running"
[10:16] <ozbrk> yes
[10:16] <m3kk> if run in terminal
[10:16] <ozbrk> it's pulseaudio
[10:16] <m3kk> but i cant find any settings-menu for enablind/disabling different?
[10:16] <ozbrk> ok can you reach the sound settings in GUI
[10:16] <ozbrk> it's on system menu
[10:16] <m3kk> ozbrk, i have no "sound" icon in settings
[10:16] <m3kk> oh
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> malinus: if it does what I need then I'd go for the cheapest I can get that still does it
[10:17] <m3kk> ozbrk, where?
[10:17] <ozbrk> m3kk I asume there is a missing package on your system
[10:17] <malinus> ActionParsnip, you don't want to look cool?
[10:17] <ozbrk> it shoul be shown at your system settinga
[10:17] <m3kk> ozbrk, its pretty freshly installed :S
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> malinus: I'm not that sad
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[10:18] <ozbrk> by the way run alsamixer on your term
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> malinus: my Samsung Tab 2.0 7 does exactly what most Mac users use their Macs for
[10:18] <m3kk> ActionParsnip, yeah now what? it opened something in terminal
[10:19] <m3kk> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=cc71dd82c2388133dae9a33a289701cc0a62fb9e
[10:20] <sgo11> what is /var/crash/.lock file? can I delete it? thanks.
[10:20] <ozbrk> guys can you tell me how can I use openbox as a file manager on unity (12.04 ubuntu)
[10:20] <Artpicre> Hello, how can I choose which browser an application have to open ?
[10:20] <Artpicre> It seems that it doesn't take the one with xdg-open
[10:21] <Artpicre> It takes a default browser one
[10:21] <Zerant> Artpicre http://askubuntu.com/questions/79305/how-do-i-change-my-default-browser
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: if you run:   aplay -Dhw:1,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Fornt_left.wav    do you get sound?
[10:21] <Artpicre> Zerant> Already did that
[10:21] <Zerant> say didnt work?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: also try:  alsamixer      make sure all levels are maxed and unmuted
[10:22] <Artpicre> It opens a built-in browser, in case of chromium
[10:22] <Zerant> Artpicre: you have to do it for every user and dont try it per terminal with sudo ;) that would change it for the root user not for your connected
[10:23] <Artpicre> Zerant> Did that
[10:23] <Artpicre> I reboot my client
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: any good?
[10:26] <Artpicre> Zerant> Okay, now it works, I tried the command-line
[10:26] <Artpicre> Zerant> Thank you :)
[10:27] <Zerant> Artpicre: no porblem didnt do much ;)
[10:28] <Artpicre> :D
[10:28] <Depa> Hi guys :D I have a dual-boot (Windows 7 and Ubuntu 13.10)... Windows now is corrupted and this is my question: if I use Recovery Utility of Windows 7, I will lost Ubuntu partition?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Depa: depends how it is setup
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Depa: if its an image and an imaging application, it may set the system back to how you bought it
[10:30] <Depa> ActionParsnip: Windows 7 Recovery is in a dedicated partition
[10:30] <Depa> ActionParsnip: when I try to load Windows, it sugest me to boot from Recovery one
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Depa: doesnt tell us what its going to do
[10:31] <Depa> ActionParsnip: ok. So, do you know a correct way?
[10:32] <Depa> ActionParsnip: I would like to recover Windows Partition without touch Ubuntu one
[10:36] <szx> what is the package for qtconfig for Qt5 in Ubuntu? there's only qt4-config in repositories
[10:40] <abc> hello everybody  i have ubuntu 12.04 with dual with window system but it doesn't work wireless  in  ubuntu i need it in ubuntu to work wirless is there any help please?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Depa: no idea, You could make an image of the ubuntu data, reinstall etc, then restore the image
[10:40] <Depa> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks :)
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Depa: or (easier) backup settings and user data then do a full reinstall of both then restore your casual user data
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Depa: its one of the reasons I fully HATE recovery partitions
[10:42] <IwantUbuntu> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my USB stick. I booted the computer from the USB stick and during the installation process I've been asked to choose my drive, but I can't see the USB but only the host computer's HDD. What should I do??
[10:42] <sgo11> in Region&Language, how to change System settings --> Format? now, I can only change "Your Settings's format". thanks.
[10:42] <Depa> ActionParsnip: Yes, me too... I will completly formatting Windows Partition (and delete the Recovery one) and re-install Windows... After that, I will simply restore Ubuntu Grub2
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> IwantUbuntu: you need 2 USB sticks to install from USB to USB
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> IwantUbuntu: you cannot install the the same stick you have made with unetbootin etc
[10:43] <IwantUbuntu> ActionParsnip: Is there a workaround or something?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> IwantUbuntu: 2 sticks, a CD and a stick etc
[10:43] <IwantUbuntu> ActionParsnip: Will a normal CD work?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> IwantUbuntu: I guess you could make a small 1Gb partition and make unetbootin use that and leave the rest unpartitioned, then install to the free space
[10:44] <Paulus68_1> ActionParsnip:  I did succeed but only because my usb was large enough
[10:44] <abc> hello everybody  i have ubuntu 12.04 with dual with window system but it doesn't work wireless  in  ubuntu i need it in ubuntu to work wirless is there any help please?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> IwantUbuntu: yes, you can install to USB from an install CD
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> abc: what wifi chip?
[10:44] <IwantUbuntu> ActionParsnip: THANKS!!!
[10:44] <wylde> ActionParsnip, a sort of out there thought, I don't even know if the option still exists but would setting toram=yes at boot make that possible?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> wylde: i dont think thats a thing anymore in Ubuntu (sadly)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> wylde: makes puppy scream along :)
[10:45] <Patero-ng> are solid state drivers quiet
[10:45] <cfhowlett> Patero-ng, drivers?  silent
[10:46] <wylde> ActionParsnip, shame. I bet it does!
[10:46] <Patero-ng> cfhowlett: drives
[10:46] <cfhowlett> :)