[02:39] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: getting that box on the internet will be a BIG first step
[02:39] <bob2> Korio: perhaps now you should just show it to us, so we can tell you which line is incorrect
[02:39] <bob2> Aurora: np
[02:39] <kinkoblast> Ion3?
[02:39] <zer0> hi
[02:39] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Oh, by the way, what's the default admin password, I don't remember having to set one.
[02:40] <krogoth64> bob2: do you know what part of the init script does the chroot?
[02:40] <kinkoblast> someotherguy: There isn't one.
[02:40] <kinkoblast> !rootsudo
[02:40] <ubotu> hmm... rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:40] <thoreauputic> !tell someotherguy about sudo
[02:40] <dooglus> krogoth64: debbootstrap?
[02:40] <bob2> krogoth64: for bind9, you mean?
[02:40] <someotherguy> I just tried to su and it asked for a password.
[02:40] <krogoth64> yeah
[02:40] <bob2> let me check on my nameserver
[02:40] <bluefoxicy> Printing: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[02:40] <dooglus> krogoth64: sorry - ignore that :)
[02:40] <Korio> bob2, u got pm
[02:40] <thoreauputic> someotherguy: read what th e bot sent you in msg
[02:41] <thoreauputic> someotherguy: ubuntu uses sudo
[02:41] <bob2> Korio: #flood or pastebin.ca
[02:41] <bob2> (and the irc server blocked your message, anyway)
[02:41] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: best of luck!
[02:41] <sicon> hiya, so uh, I started to install ubuntu, and i rebooted like it said, it finished installing packages then apparently started X ... but it froze at that point. the problem is i have not had the opportunity to set root pass so ctrl+alt+f1 and logging in does no good without root
[02:42] <bob2> sicon: wtf
[02:42] <bob2> sicon: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:42] <sicon> hrm
[02:42] <Korio> bob2, http://pastebin.ca/28505
[02:42] <bob2> thoreauputic: haha
[02:43] <sicon> bob2: i am not following, i know what sudo is ...
[02:43] <bob2> Korio: line 19, add multiverse to the end of it
[02:43] <sicon> bob2: the install never finished
[02:43] <bob2> sicon: ok
[02:43] <dooglus> sicon: you have a user account with permission to sudo to root...
[02:44] <dnB> can anyone point me in the right direction? id like a user account to automatically log out after a predefined idle time
[02:44] <dooglus> sicon: if not, you can boot into rescue mode and get root that way
[02:44] <sicon> ahh it automatically adds me to sudoer list
[02:44] <sicon> dooglus: i have never installed ubunto so i am not sure if everything finished installing correctly
[02:44] <Korio> thx bob2
[02:44] <navyn> hey nalioth, i rebooted and everything works now
[02:44] <dooglus> sicon: it automatically adds you to the admin group, and all members of the admin group can sudo to root
[02:45] <PJeremy> how do i make a softlink from motifwrapper to libXm.so ?
[02:45] <zblach> howdy
[02:45] <dooglus> PJeremy: ln -s libXm.so motifwrapper
[02:45] <sicon> dooglus: see my problem though? apparently X is running, i hear the drum sound but I am not seeing a desktop :-o
[02:45] <PJeremy> dooglus: with directories i assume?
[02:45] <dooglus> sicon: control-alt-F1 ?
[02:46] <Orborde> Is there a shortcut key to switch between GNOME workspaces?
[02:46] <dooglus> PJeremy: if you like :)
[02:46] <sicon> yeah i am logged in and sudo'd a shell
[02:46] <PJeremy> dooglus: well, is it necessary? ;)
[02:46] <bob2> Orborde: dunny if there is a default, but you can set one
[02:46] <thoreauputic> Orborde:  ctrl-alt-arrow
[02:46] <zblach> can one recommend a program like winamp (with internet radio stations)?
[02:46] <sicon> dooglus: but i am unsure why X isn't displaying, yet the X server IS running, i know the vid card supports it, as i just took openbsd off it ...
[02:46] <dooglus> PJeremy: you could cd to the directory you want to make the link in first.
[02:46] <krogoth64> why doesn't the disk manager send the mount configuration?
[02:46] <server_newbie> I am having big problems setting up shorewall & knockd and get them to work togther can someone spend a few minutes to help me ?
[02:47] <dooglus> PJeremy: then, if the link and the target are in the same directory you need not specify directories
[02:47] <dooglus> sicon: you may need to fiddle with /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:47] <thoreauputic> zblach:  sudo apt-get install streamtuner xmms streamripper
[02:47] <Orborde> thoreauputic / bob2 : Thanks
[02:47] <sicon> hmmm ... this could be interesting, i have 3 displays, i normally use Xorg --configure but ok
[02:47] <thoreauputic> zblach: STREAMTUNER WILL GIVE YOU A WHOLE BUNCH OF STATIONS
[02:47] <thoreauputic> OOP
[02:47] <zblach> i have xmms, but streamtuner and streamripper?
[02:47] <PJeremy> dooglus: that would be the motif one ? and no, they're not, libxm is in /usr/lib and motifwrapper is in /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[02:47] <thoreauputic> damn caps lock
[02:48] <thoreauputic> sorry for the noise people
[02:48] <zblach> thoreauputic, ok, thank.s thought that was a warning.
[02:48] <bob2> server_newbie: you need to be more specific
[02:48] <dooglus> PJeremy: so I would run "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libxm /usr/lib/opera/plugins/whateveritwascalled"
[02:48] <thoreauputic> zblach: I just hit the wrong key, sorry :|
[02:48] <PJeremy> dooglus: alrighty, thanks
[02:48] <dooglus> PJeremy: (only with more correct paths)
[02:50] <zblach> thoreauputic, no problem
[02:50] <thoreauputic> zblach: streamtuner uses xmms by default - you can use other players like bee--media-player or whatever you like
[02:50] <Korio> I dont get picture while streaming with mplayer in firefox but I get no sound
[02:50] <zblach> now, will streamtuner use xmms?
[02:50] <zblach> oh, thanks.
[02:50] <zblach> laggy.
[02:50] <Korio> I mean. i do get picture but no sound
[02:50] <thoreauputic> *beep-media-player
[02:51] <Zealot87> does anyone run windows on a dual boot?
[02:51] <server_newbie> bob2 I have tries to set up the shorewall conf files firewall works, and so does the knock how ever the port won't open
[02:51] <thoreauputic> zblach: streamripper integrates with streamtuner and allow you to rip from radio
[02:51] <necator> how do i install a metacity theme i downloaded from gnome-look.org
[02:51] <b1n0ry> if i'm unable to use the LiveCD, might i have success with a full install or should i not waste my time?
[02:51] <PJeremy> dooglus: what should it say if it was successful? should it say "blabla file exists" ?
[02:51] <dooglus> PJeremy: it should be quiet
[02:52] <necator> zealot87 i currently run windows on a dual boot
[02:52] <thoreauputic> necator: open the themes dialog and drag th etar ball onto it
[02:52] <PJeremy> dooglus: well, it tells me that motifwrapper exists, quite obviously it does..
[02:52] <soundray> b1n0ry, it depends on what the problem was with the live CD.
[02:52] <thoreauputic> necator: then check the "details" tab
[02:52] <dooglus> PJeremy: sounds like you already either have the link you want, or an alternative file of the same name
[02:52] <bob2> server_newbie: why are you using knockd at all?
[02:53] <zorin> b1n0ry did you burn the disk as a image
[02:53] <PJeremy> dooglus: well, if i had the link, motifwrapper would find libXm..
[02:53] <server_newbie> I don't want open ports , but I want to geto ssh and ftp
[02:53] <b1n0ry> soundray it got to a point where it was "Entering Preinstalled Session" gave me a red screen and then presented me with a menu that asked me to try again (or choose another step of the process)
[02:53] <dooglus> PJeremy: run "ls -l /usr/lib/opera/whatever" - what's that show you?
[02:53] <b1n0ry> zorin yeah, disk was fine.
[02:53] <thoreauputic> server_newbie: to run services, ports *have* to listen
[02:54] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I think that's the point - with 'knockd' they don't...
[02:54] <necator> thx thoreauputic that worked . does the same process apply to icons?
[02:54] <zorin> b1n0rywhat version is the disk
[02:54] <jessicaNZ> how do I get ubuntu to automaticly mount my windows (vfat) partition so that normal users can write to it?
[02:54] <thoreauputic> necator: haven't tried it - worth a try
[02:54] <b1n0ry> zorin most recent, i believe. i downloaded it yesterday from the website.
[02:54] <PJeremy> dooglus: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 77520 2005-09-16 12:14 /usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3
[02:54] <dooglus> PJeremy: that's a file...
[02:54] <thoreauputic> necator: icon themes live in ~/.icons IIRC
[02:55] <dooglus> PJeremy: try an 'ls -l' on the thing you're trying to link to as well
[02:55] <bob2> server_newbie: er, you're being silly
[02:55] <Zealot87> necator, i cant get the windows installer to install on an unpartitioned amount of space
[02:55] <bob2> server_newbie: just use shorewall and forget about knockd
[02:55] <thoreauputic> necator: but there they have to be uncompresed
[02:55] <Zealot87> necator, so i tell it to create a partition that will work with windows, and it still tells me that it doesnt work
[02:55] <bob2> server_newbie: ssh with rsa keys is effectively unbreakable, ftp is so insecure that it's not worth bothering with
[02:56] <soundray> b1n0ry, is this a very recent machine?
[02:56] <server_newbie> bob2 how do I gets files
[02:56] <b1n0ry> soundray it's about a year old
[02:56] <soundray> b1n0ry, standard hardware?
[02:56] <bob2> server_newbie: rsync, sftp, scp
[02:56] <bob2> server_newbie: they all work over ssh
[02:57] <dooglus> server_newbie: you can use 'scp'
[02:57] <MrFarts> wow. this is nice
[02:57] <b1n0ry> soundray pretty much. only thing that most machines don't have is the live drive for my SB card
[02:57] <MrFarts> LiveCd works perfectly
[02:57] <MrFarts> i'm impressed
[02:57] <PJeremy> dooglus: http://pastebin.com/427310
[02:57] <soundray> b1n0ry, don't know what that is, but it shouldn't affect your graphics.
[02:57] <bluefoxicy> Mr_Milenko:  the livecd sets up X automatically; on an Ubuntu install, if you change from an nVidia video card to a Radeon, X refuses to start and you have to reinstall.
[02:57] <bluefoxicy> *mrFarts
[02:57] <bluefoxicy> MrFarts:  I'd say the livecds are more perfect than the base ubuntu install :)
[02:58] <soundray> b1n0ry, which is where your problem may lie.
[02:58] <b1n0ry> soundray nope, it doesn't. standard on-board nvidia card. i never got to a graphical screen.
[02:58] <jorge_> if my windows is on hda1, how can I put it in the boot menu
[02:58] <jorge_> cause it's not showing it
[02:58] <MrFarts> bluefoxicy, why's that ?
[02:58] <b1n0ry> soundray ubuntu doesn't work with SB cards?
[02:58] <bluefoxicy> MrFarts:  Well, you don't have to reinstall; you can go through the shell, vim /etc/X11R6/xorg.conf and set it up; but a noob would reinstall
[02:58] <server_newbie> bob2: is there a set of conf files out there pre-conf for shorewall ?
[02:58] <dooglus> PJeremy: maybe you want to move that plugin out the way and then put in the link in its place
[02:58] <Zealot87> necator
[02:58] <bob2> server_newbie: /usr/share/doc/shorewall/
[02:58] <Zealot87> ?
[02:58] <necator> zealot87 install your windows first.
[02:58] <bluefoxicy> isn't it sad?
[02:58] <jorge_> how can i mount a drive
[02:58] <necator> zealot87 then your linux. windows dosent like to share with others.
[02:59] <lightbright> I just ordered 5 CD ubuntu
[02:59] <soundray> b1n0ry, if SB is SoundBlaster, it does.
[02:59] <MrFarts> bluefoxicy, i want to install just to see how the installer works
[02:59] <Elock> sorry to bother everyone, but how do I change the password for my root account?
[02:59] <lightbright> will this be latest ubunt with latest kernel and kde and gnome?
[02:59] <bluefoxicy> MrFarts:  go for it.  DOn't hurt yourself though : )
[02:59] <b1n0ry> soundray it is. the "non-standard" device is just the drive-bay extension of the Audigy2 card.
[02:59] <bob2> Elock: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:59] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: the path you gave for xorg.conf is sad too ( try /etc/X11/xorg.conf )
[02:59] <bluefoxicy> MrFarts:  you've installed an OS before right?  :>
[02:59] <vader1102> Have a question here, other than evolution, what is a good email program with a calendar?
[02:59] <soundray> b1n0ry, have you tried different boot options?
[02:59] <server_newbie> Thanks bob2
[02:59] <bob2> Elock: it's in the FAQ, and the installer also prompted you to say you'd read it during the install
[02:59] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic: yeah.  Doesn't cahnge the issue though.
[02:59] <PJeremy> dooglus: well, opera uses motifwrapper-3, but can't find it for some odd reason, now i read in a forum entry that someone softlinked them..
[03:00] <MrFarts> bluefoxicy, i've been using linux since about 1993 :)
[03:00] <soundray> b1n0ry, specifically the ones referring to graphics/framebuffers etc.
[03:00] <bluefoxicy> MrFarts:  Ah, ok.
[03:00] <Elock> bob2: thanks
[03:00] <lightbright> i just ordered 5 CDs! will this be latest ubunt with latest kernel and kde and gnome?
[03:00] <vader1102> Evolution crashes when I use the calendar ;-(
[03:00] <jorge_> does anybody have windows on their pc too?
[03:00] <b1n0ry> soundray you think the problem might be video card related?
[03:00] <bluefoxicy> Can someone please help me with samba before I kill something?
[03:00] <bob2> lightbright: yes...
[03:00] <jorge_> i need to look at what the windows entry looks like in the grub config
[03:00] <MrFarts> bluefoxicy, the days of manual xf86 modelines :)
[03:00] <bob2> bluefoxicy: not unless you ask an actual question
[03:00] <MrFarts> that was fu
[03:01] <soundray> b1n0ry, that's most likely from the limited information there is.
[03:01] <soundray> b1n0ry, unless you had any other clues.
[03:01] <soundray> b1n0ry, answering your original question:
[03:01] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  Alright.  I installed samba on a remote machine with a printer; entered user rusty <password> here, it listed the printer in gnome's cups configurator, I selected it.
[03:01] <MrFarts> i like thi
[03:01] <MrFarts> s
[03:01] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  Printing a testpage changes the status to "Printing: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
[03:01] <MrFarts> feels like BSD
[03:01] <soundray> b1n0ry, you would invest about 40 min, there being 10 min of actual work.
[03:01] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: I figured it out!
[03:01] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  solve for obvious problems.
[03:02] <b1n0ry> soundray the livecd went through scanning for the hardware, then the nice blue boot-loader screen went red said "Failed Entering Preinstalled Session" then gave me a menu with about 20 options on it to choose the next step of the installation process. all the info i have.
[03:02] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> How do I check my ip?
[03:02] <soundray> b1n0ry, after that, you will very likely have a system where at least the command line works.
[03:02] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  and yes I already usurped root on the samba server over there and smbpasswd -e rusty
[03:02] <MrFarts> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu, ifcnfig
[03:02] <MrFarts> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu, ifcconfig
[03:02] <MrFarts> er
[03:02] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn:Apparently my stupid roommate put a second videocard in when I wasn't looking, and I didn't notice it...it was loading x on it.
[03:02] <MrFarts> ifconfig
[03:02] <b1n0ry> soundray then i could try to get x working... that what you're getting at?
[03:02] <soundray> b1n0ry, exactly.
[03:02] <b1n0ry> soundray does ubuntu use xfree or x11-xorg?
[03:02] <soundray> b1n0ry, xorg
[03:03] <b1n0ry> soundray that's what i was hoping :)
[03:03] <b1n0ry> soundray i've gotten half decent at configuring xorg
[03:03] <soundray> b1n0ry, problem could be the CD too.
[03:03] <soundray> b1n0ry, don't know how pressed you are for time, but I know I would try.
[03:03] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> how do I make linux request a new ip address?
[03:03] <PJeremy> jorge_: did you get the query about grub?
[03:03] <b1n0ry> soundray i doubt it. cd worked fine on a virtual machine. i also verified the media from the aforementioned menu
[03:04] <superchode> ifdown, ifup
[03:04] <bluefoxicy> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu:  sudo dhclient eth0
[03:04] <bob2> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: 'sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0', perhaps.
[03:04] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> ...
[03:04] <jorge_> PJeremy: yes but, thanks, but I messaged you back
[03:04] <bob2> bluefoxicy: that will go terribly wrong if there is an existing daemonized dhclient
[03:04] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Okay, thanks.
[03:04] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  really?
[03:04] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> bye
[03:04] <PJeremy> jorge_: heh, didn't get anything.
[03:04] <jorge_> I'd like to know waht savedefault, chainloader +1, and makeactive does
[03:04] <soundray> b1n0ry, what distribution did you use with xorg, and was that on the same machine?
[03:05] <b1n0ry> soundray no, not the same machine. but with fedora.
[03:05] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  so no answer on my remote printing issue huh?
[03:05] <bob2> bluefoxicy: nope, I don't use samba printing
[03:05] <PJeremy> jorge_: sorry, don't know that, ubuntu set it up during installation.
[03:05] <jorge_> Ah, thanks anyways
[03:06] <jorge_> I'll set it up like that too
[03:06] <bob2> jorge_: 'info grub', after installigng grub-doc.
[03:06] <necator> how do i install a sound theme?
[03:06] <b1n0ry> soundray as soon as i finish backing up this drive i'm going to wipe out, i'm going to give it a try.
[03:06] <MrFarts> man, i wish i had heard of this earlier
[03:07] <MrFarts> this is sweet
[03:07] <MrFarts> everything i want
[03:07] <b1n0ry> are there any known issues with dual-booting windows xp if the two OS's reside on different drives?
[03:07] <soundray> b1n0ry, hope you can get it to run.
[03:07] <vader1102> Has anyone had Evolution crash after opening the calendar?
[03:07] <vader1102> using Breezy
[03:08] <justtestingandso> !testtest
[03:08] <ubotu> justtestingandso: No idea
[03:08] <justtestingandso> !note_me_about_msg
[03:08] <ubotu> justtestingandso: Are you smoking crack?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> justtestingandso: *cough*
[03:08] <necator> does anyone know how to install a sound theme from gnome-look.org ?
[03:09] <Zealot87> necator, then how do you install ubuntu afterwords so that you can choose which one to boot?
[03:09] <justtestingandso> i somehow registered my nick (oskude) and the command was given by ubotu, but the command didnt as for password, so i cant use my nick. DOH
[03:09] <necator> zealot87 do u mean after windows is already installed?
[03:10] <Zealot87> yeah
[03:10] <MrFarts> is there an ms core fonts package for ubuntu ?
[03:10] <soundray> b1n0ry, I haven't tried this myself but would expect no problem.
[03:10] <necator> zealot87 ubuntu will detect that windows is there and ask you if u want to install a boot loader.
[03:10] <justtestingandso> !msg
[03:10] <ubotu> please don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.
[03:10] <necator> zealot87 then when your comp turns on b4 an os loads youll get like a window that lists all your os unbutu and windows
[03:10] <StevenK> MrFarts: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/msttcorefonts
[03:10] <jorge_> im gonna try out my new grub file
[03:10] <jorge_> hope it works :S
[03:10] <necator> zealot87 and u just pick one with arrow keys and press enter and it boots into that.
[03:10] <soundray> b1n0ry, older Win versions were particular about wanting to be on the first HD, so you could arrange it like that to be on the safe side.
[03:10] <necator> zealot87 ubuntu will know how to work with windows once its installed its just windows dosent know how to work with linux.
[03:11] <MrFarts> StevenK, thanks
[03:11] <Zealot87> necator, ok thanks, i guess i will have to reinstall ubuntu and windows then
[03:11] <necator> zealot87 thats y u install the windows first cuss the ubuntu will know what to do with the windows when its intalled. just pay close attention to the ubuntu installers wizard.
[03:11] <Zealot87> why what will it say?
[03:11] <necator> zealot87 im not sure if thats the only way possible im new at this stuff my self but from what i know i belive thats how it has to be done.
[03:12] <justtestingandso> ok, i didnt read it comlete http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup, doh
[03:12] <Zealot87> necator, ok thanks for the help, i will try tonight
[03:12] <necator> zealot87 when ubuntu is installing and its partitioing it self its going to recongize the windows partion and ask u if u want to destroy it or install ubuntu in the free space
[03:12] <necator> zealot87 after u install ubuntu and leave the windows part intact then it will ask u if u want to install a boot loader and u say yes.
[03:14] <MrFarts> btw, does ubuntu include qt libs ?
[03:14] <dabaR> MrFarts: why not have a non farts nick?
[03:14] <StevenK> MrFarts: I expect so.
[03:14] <MrFarts> dabaR, why not have a non-lame nick ?
[03:15] <dabaR> MrFarts: ok sorry
[03:15] <soundray> Someone stinks.
[03:15] <dabaR> MrFarts: /msg ubotu ask the bot
[03:15] <dabaR> lol
[03:15] <dabaR> MrFarts: /msg ubotu find qt
[03:15] <MrFarts> thanks
[03:15] <sazwerx> help.. anyone here knows how to setup CDMA phone by Qualcomm?
[03:16] <dabaR> or libqt.~, or apt-cache search libqt, or aptitude search libqt
[03:16] <Zealot87> ok gotcha gotcha, it makes sense
[03:16] <dabaR> bah
[03:16] <Zealot87> necator, will do thanks for the help!
[03:16] <necator> can someone tell me what this means
[03:16] <necator> no problem zealot87
[03:16] <necator> zealot87 good luck
[03:16] <MrFarts> libqt4-core
[03:16] <MrFarts> seems like something
[03:16] <necator> can someone tell me what this means
[03:16] <Zealot87> hehe thanks
[03:16] <necator> IMPORTANT! You must do 'su' with the '-p' flag in order to preserve your home dir variable while running as superuser)
[03:16] <dducko> Dont run as superuser?
[03:16] <necator> i dont understand what thats telling me :p
[03:16] <MrFarts> you know the only thing that i don't like about ubuntu so far is the stupid logo
[03:17] <necator> i dont know what -p or home varibale is
[03:17] <MrFarts> i don't care to see politically correct black people :)
[03:17] <dabaR> MrFarts: I hate ubuntu.
[03:17] <dducko> Its telling that if your usuing the su
[03:17] <MrFarts> dabaR, the logo or the distribution?
[03:17] <necator> what if i use sudo dducko?
[03:17] <necator> cuss i dont know what su does either
[03:17] <dabaR> MrFarts: anything to do with it.
[03:17] <dave> any1 hlep me installing wine pm me pls
[03:17] <dave> any1 hlep me installing wine pm me pls
[03:17] <dducko> that unless you use the -p  you cant hit cd  to go home directory
[03:17] <MrFarts> dabaR, why are you in an ubuntu channel then
[03:18] <necator> dave
[03:18] <dave> ya
[03:18] <dducko> or use ~ as your home directory in lines
[03:18] <necator> sudo apt-get install wine
[03:18] <MrFarts> dabaR, and what do you hate about it exactly ?
[03:18] <necator> i think thats all u have to do
[03:18] <dducko> sudo keeps it, unless you do sudo  -s I believe
[03:18] <dabaR> dave: enable universe, "sudo aptitude install wine" in a terminal
[03:18] <dducko> not sure
[03:18] <dabaR> MrFarts: stop trolling me.
[03:18] <MrFarts> dabaR, ok, whatever
[03:19] <necator> where is the themes folder located?
[03:19] <dabaR> haha
[03:20] <dabaR> necator: for what wm?
[03:20] <DMJC> how do you set samba to run at boot?
[03:20] <DMJC> the machine is headless
[03:20] <b1n0ry> DMJC ntsysv
[03:21] <b1n0ry> DMJC lets you select the services you want to start at boot
[03:21] <necator> whats a wm ?
[03:21] <thoreauputic> DMJC: smba should run at bot by default
[03:21] <necator> im tryin to install a sound package i downloaded.
[03:21] <DMJC> hmm k
[03:21] <b1n0ry> necator window manager, such as gnome or kde
[03:21] <necator> gnome
[03:21] <b1n0ry> necator wait, i lied
[03:21] <thoreauputic> DMJC:  /etc/init.d/samba
[03:22] <DMJC> kj
[03:22] <dabaR> b1n0ry: gnome or kde are not wms, but ok...
[03:22] <b1n0ry> necator those would be desktop managers
[03:22] <dabaR> haha, nice:)
[03:22] <b1n0ry> or rather 'desktop environments'
[03:22] <myrth_> how do i install nvidia-glx on kubuntu?
[03:23] <dabaR> necator: well, download the file off the net, and install it through the gui, or something.
[03:23] <necator> dabar ya i cant figure out how.
[03:23] <b1n0ry> necator still 'wm' = window manager such as twm, used to handle the ways that windows interact with X
[03:23] <MrFarts> how can i search for a package in a repository ?
[03:23] <necator> dabar i have the file already just dont know how to install it.
[03:23] <b1n0ry> dabaR did i redeem myself? ;)
[03:24] <dabaR> necator: tried system prefs themes?
[03:24] <thoreauputic> MrFarts: erm - apt-cache search <keywords>   ?
[03:24] <necator> ya dosent work in there dabar
[03:24] <MrFarts> thomhash, thanks
[03:24] <dave> can u read windows partitions under ubuntu?
[03:24] <thoreauputic> dave: yes
[03:24] <FR500> hello
[03:24] <dave> where they at ? lol
[03:24] <FR500> is there a scanning program with a better gui than xsane? i mean, it's great but is far from being intuitive
[03:24] <thoreauputic> !tell dave about mountwindows
[03:24] <dabaR> necator: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q2 ?
[03:24] <dave> ty
[03:25] <thoreauputic> FR500: I think you can use the GIMP for scanning (havne' got a scanner here)
[03:26] <thoreauputic> FR500: KDE has kooka IIRC
[03:26] <MrFarts> what in the world is vmware player ?
[03:26] <nybbz> hey, having problems resizing ntfs partition. is it even possible using the ubuntu installer?
[03:26] <glick> damn is there anything i can do if my landlord is beating around the bush when i request him to turn on my heat?
[03:26] <Siph0n> !tell Siph0n about mountwindows
[03:26] <glick> it apartment has been freezing for two weeks, when i asked him
[03:27] <FR500> thomhash, kk, gonna check em out
[03:27] <dabaR> glick: ya, offer ubuntu.
[03:27] <glick> how about i offer him a court summons
[03:27] <whynotwork> hmm, a little off-topic. i registered my nick (oskude) with "/msg nickserv register <password>" and relogged with it (password set in xchat preferences for that server) login went ok and freenode authorized me. but still "oskude" cant post on this channel ?!?!?!
[03:27] <glick> if i get a cold im sueing his ass
[03:27] <dabaR> right, that works too.
[03:27] <thoreauputic> glick: promise not to burn his house down? *grin*
[03:27] <trincamckee> http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , as u can see i have 2 xfce entries listed, how can i delete one of them?
[03:28] <FR500> thoreauputic, kooka looks good, to bad it's kde
[03:29] <FR500> looks to different
[03:29] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: edit (delete)  the *.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions
[03:29] <mmiikkee12> what's the difference between hard and symblic links?
[03:29] <fanopnaic> whynotwork: are you sure you were authorized?
[03:29] <whynotwork> fanopnaic, 100% sure
[03:29] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: there will be two - I asume you want to keep the xfce4 one
[03:29] <trincamckee> thoreauputic, but "xsession" is a folder or a script?
[03:30] <thoreauputic> it'sa dirctory
[03:30] <trincamckee> actualy i want that is selected
[03:30] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: cd /usr/shar/xsessions ; ls
[03:30] <fanopnaic> whynotwork: because you have a n= prefix on your ident, and I think that means that you are not identified :)
[03:30] <thoreauputic> * /usr/share/xsessions
[03:30] <ssdd534> how do i make my ubuntu rereconize the hardware like it did during the install?
[03:30] <trincamckee> i dont have that dolder
[03:30] <trincamckee> =/
[03:30] <whynotwork> fanopnaic, i copy the messages, brb
[03:31] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: are you using KDM ?
[03:31] <trincamckee> sorry my mistake
[03:31] <trincamckee> i have
[03:31] <leeroy> Hi, I am trying to install a dual boot of xp and ubuntu 5.10 on my system.  It has two harddrives, one of which is hooked up through ata, and the other of which is hooked up through a pci card with more ata slots.  When I try to install, Windows goes on fine, but then Ubuntu sort of messes things up by popping up the error of "Cannot find operating system".  Any ideas as to the source of this?
[03:31] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: it has files in it - delete the one you don't want
[03:32] <ssdd534> how do i make my second cdrom that i just added auto mount?
[03:32] <dachnaz_> Why does my password suddenly not work?
[03:32] <mmiikkee12> ssdd534: remove noauto from fstab
[03:32] <ssdd534> mmiikkee12, thanks
[03:32] <myrth_> argh... installed nvidia-glx, and now all the fonts are huge - where do i change dpi in kubuntu?
[03:32] <mmiikkee12> wait, did you mean at boot or when you put a cd in?
[03:32] <punkass> is there away to install grub to the root partition after ubuntu has been installed?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> ssdd534: did you put an entry in /etc/fstab for it?
[03:33] <fanopnaic> oskude: working now?
[03:33] <dachnaz_> Why doesn't my password work?
[03:33] <trincamckee> tank u it worked
[03:33] <mmiikkee12> dachnaz_: login as root and do passwd yourname
[03:33] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: :)
[03:33] <leeroy> Any idea why installing a dual boot with Ubuntu causes the error, "Unable to find operating system" at bootup?
[03:34] <mmiikkee12> what's the difference between hard and symbolic links?
[03:34] <dachnaz_> mmiikkee12, no such thing as root in Ubuntu.
[03:34] <mmiikkee12> yes there is
[03:34] <mmiikkee12> it just isn't as hard to get to
[03:34] <thoreauputic> leeroy: the only time I've seen that it was a BIOS issue - try resetting the BIOS to defaults
[03:34] <dachnaz_> No, there isn't...
[03:34] <dachnaz_> If there is then how do I get to it?
[03:34] <dooglus> I have "n=" in front of my name whether I'm registered or not
[03:34] <mmiikkee12> sudo passwd and then su
[03:34] <leeroy> I have two harddrives, one of which is IDE, and the other is hooked up through a PCI card, could that make a difference?
[03:35] <mmiikkee12> the root pswd is your password
[03:35] <necator> dachnaz_ u can create it.
[03:35] <myrth_> anyone can tell me where do i change in kubuntu gui screen dpi?
[03:35] <dachnaz_> You guys don't get it.
[03:35] <mmiikkee12> there is a root
[03:35] <dachnaz_>  I need the password to do these things! And it doesn't work!
[03:35] <fanopnaic> mmiikkee12: a soft link points to another file. a hard link directly points to the specific piece of data on the harddrive.
[03:35] <dooglus> dachnaz_: you can set the root password like this: "sudo passwd"
[03:35] <mmiikkee12> it's your password
[03:35] <thoreauputic> !tell dachnaz_ about root
[03:35] <fanopnaic> mmiikkee12: (simplified)  see http://www.google.com/search?&q=difference%20soft%20link%20hard%20link
[03:35] <necator> dachnaz_ use the password you used for your login account.
[03:35] <mmiikkee12> ok
[03:35] <dachnaz_> dooglus, Dammit it asks me for a password and it doesn't WORK!
[03:36] <FR500> thoreauputic, when i plug my scanner i gotta change permissions manually to access it (like chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/003/005 or something alike, is there a way to make it set like that automatically?
[03:36] <thoreauputic> dachnaz_: read what the bot sent you
[03:36] <myrth_> dachnaz_: are you putting your regular user password?
[03:36] <necator> dachnaz_ YOUR ACCOUNT PASSWORD IS THE PASSWORD.
[03:36] <dooglus> dachnaz_: I was disputing your "there's no root account in ubuntu" outrage :)
[03:36] <dachnaz_> How thick can you guys get...
[03:36] <mmiikkee12> !root
[03:36] <ubotu> root is, like, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:36] <dooglus> necator: he's forgotten his user's password - or someone's changed it for him
[03:36] <dachnaz_> I am using my regular user password. It does NOT work.
[03:36] <thoreauputic> FR500: probably - I don't know
[03:36] <necator> dachnaz_ your the thick one. we trying to help your thick skull
[03:36] <leeroy> Don't bite the hand that feeds you...
[03:36] <necator> dooglus he thinks he needs another password called root.
[03:36] <dooglus> dachnaz_: maybe you've got capslock on.  or maybe you changed to a czech keyboard layout
[03:36] <FR500> ok
[03:36] <necator> dooglus we are telling him his usr accoutn is the root password.
[03:36] <dooglus> necator: I don't think he does.
[03:37] <dachnaz_> (-.-)
[03:37] <thoreauputic> dachnaz_: read the Code of Conduct and please show respect for other users
[03:37] <whynotwork> ok, i registered my password with "/msg nickserv register <password>" as user "oskude", logout and set my "nickserv password" in xchat for freenode server. on login i get "Password accepted - you are now recognized: services. sets mode +e oskude: You have no new memos" and then i "/join #ubuntu" and when saying something i get "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel", wtf ?
[03:37] <dachnaz_> (*.*)
[03:37] <necator> dooglus if he does sudo he will be fine
[03:37] <dooglus> dachnaz_: can you log in as yourself still?
[03:37] <mmiikkee12> rm -Rf / and reinstall :) (jk)
[03:37] <intelikey> dachnaz_ are you needing to know how to reset your password ?
[03:37] <necator> dooglus but hes rude no point helping him.
[03:37] <dachnaz_> dooglus, no I cannot
[03:37] <myrth_> guys, where do i change dpi?
[03:37] <myrth_> of screen
[03:37] <dachnaz_> intelikey, This is probably necessary.
[03:38] <dooglus> necator: I think he's being rude 'cos he's frustrated that everyone is answering a question that he didn't ask :)
[03:38] <necator> dooglus i think someone did tell him that solution first and he said it was wrong so we told him another one.
[03:38] <dooglus> necator: boot into rescue mode and reset your password from there if it really has changed.
[03:38] <leeroy> Is there a way to install linux first, and then to install Windows alongside it?
[03:39] <mmiikkee12> yes
[03:39] <dooglus> necator: try typing it at the command prompt to see if it looks right
[03:39] <thoreauputic> leeroy: yes, but the other way round is easier
[03:39] <myrth_> leeroy: i think u'll have to reinstall grub after that
[03:39] <_native_> leeroy; windows will overwrite grub.
[03:39] <mmiikkee12> just have a grub floppy handy, install windows, then boot the floppy and reinstall
[03:39] <ssdd534> ok i tryed adding my new cdrom to fstab.... but it wont mount
[03:39] <_native_> leeroy; which is not good
[03:39] <necator> leeroy easier to go windows first.
[03:39] <ssdd534> any way i try to mount it
[03:39] <httpdss> im having this problem from a long time ago .. and that is: once i configured pppoe with the pppoeconfig utility .. and from then on, when i boot 2 or 3 ppp instances get created and the connection doesnt route fine .. how can i make this this ubuntu to run only one instance of ppp on bootup ??
[03:39] <dachnaz_> :X
[03:40] <mmiikkee12> did you put user in the options?
[03:40] <leeroy> Okay, cool
[03:40] <dachnaz_> brb then, rebooting into safe mode or whatevers.
[03:40] <necator> dooglus im not the one with the password problem he is.
[03:40] <whynotwork> do i have a fraking bug or what ? :)
[03:40] <mmiikkee12> ssdd534: what's the error?
[03:40] <dooglus> necator: you all look the same to me, you IRC nicks
[03:40] <ssdd534> can not mount specal device /dev/hdd
[03:40] <intelikey> dachnaz_ reboot and at the grub prompt (assuming grub)  hit [esc]  then  E  to edit the startup command line.    and add 1  that is the number one   or single  this should boot you into a root console where you can type "passwd <name> "  and set your passwd.  then use 'init 2 ' to continue the normal boot process.
[03:40] <ssdd534> it says /dev/hdd dosnt exist
[03:40] <necator> intelikey he isnt here.
[03:41] <intelikey> yes i'm lagging...
[03:41] <BOBBIE> hi how do i change file permissions of a file :?
[03:41] <krogoth64> is shorewall the best way to manage iptables?
[03:41] <whynotwork> well, gotta fo help myself (like allways
[03:42] <thoreauputic> BOBBIE:  chmod
[03:42] <httpdss> BOBBIE: chmod
[03:42] <dachnaz_> Rebooting worked. Wierd shiz.
[03:42] <ssdd534> i need to add a new dev to /dev.... how would i do so?
[03:42] <klontj> i'm trying to change my theme to clearlooks under System->Prefences->Theme ->Install theme. It asks for the location of the theme - where is the theme located-which directory?
[03:43] <intelikey> dachnaz_ just rebooting fixed it ?
[03:43] <dachnaz_> How can I add something to start when the system starts up? In gentoo it's something like rc-update add fooprog default
[03:43] <httpdss> klontj: it show appear if installed from package ..
[03:43] <dachnaz_> intelikey, Yeah.
[03:44] <thoreauputic> klontj: clearlooks is already installed (in breezy anyway) just click on the icon/picture
[03:44] <dooglus> dachnaz_: if it's something little, just add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:44] <thoreauputic> dachnaz_:  update-rc.d
[03:45] <glick> JEEEEEEEEEEESSSUS CHRIIIIIIST its cold!
[03:45] <httpdss> how can i run only 1 instance of pppd on bootup ??
[03:45] <ssdd534> i need to add a new dev to /dev.... how would i do so?
[03:45] <necator> dachnaz_ not sure if its the same thing but what i do is open my programs then when i log out i press save current setup.
[03:45] <intelikey> httpdss remove the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/
[03:45] <dachnaz_> so, for instance,  $ update-rc.d /home/dachnaz/ts2/startupscript start runlvl 2
[03:46] <dnB> hi, wondering if anyone knows what might cause the mouse pointer to be off from where im actually clicking? (clicks button 2 inches above where pointer appears to be?)
[03:46] <dachnaz_> nvm.
[03:47] <thoreauputic> dachnaz_: erm, update-rc.d is for scripts in /etc/init.d and so on
[03:47] <dachnaz_> Ok
[03:47] <klontj> I click on the picture and nothing happens - shouldn't the brown background color change?
[03:47] <ssdd534> ok... iadded a new cdrom to my system... but it seems there is no /dev/hdd (where the new cdrom is)... what can i do to fix this?
[03:47] <ohmannnnn> nickserv sucks. it says my user is regonized but posting in #ubuntu gives me "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel"
[03:47] <dnB> heh, can someone tell me how to make an application load on startup? (dansguardian a webfilter)?
[03:48] <ssdd534> dnB System > prefs > sessions
[03:48] <intelikey> dachnaz_ i'd 'cp  /home/dachnaz/ts2/startupscript /etc/rc2.d/S99startupaddons
[03:48] <cfa> can any1 explain why i can not run make & make clean
[03:48] <thoreauputic> klontj: if you mean the desktop - no. You change the wallpaper for that - or do you mean changing themes has no effect on your widgets/ windows etc?
[03:49] <intelikey> cfa installed build essentials ?
[03:49] <thoreauputic> cfa: have you installed the "build-esential" package?
[03:49] <klontj> sorry - i thought the wallpaper would also change
[03:49] <dnB> ssdd534, will that work for loading an application that needs sudo on a non sudo account?
[03:49] <cfa> dont know
[03:49] <thoreauputic> build-essential (singular)
[03:49] <cfa> let me check
[03:49] <dnB> for instance, squid is autoloaded, however isnt listed in the sessions start up
[03:49] <ssdd534> dnB... i have no idea... sorry
[03:50] <thoreauputic> klontj: to change wallpaper right click the background and choose to change it
[03:50] <dnB> ssdd534, thanks ;)
[03:50] <cmcnamar> hello
[03:50] <cfa> thoreauputic, thanx i did not
[03:50] <cfa> i just did
[03:50] <cmcnamar> i am a n00b
[03:50] <cmcnamar> I just installed Ubuntu yesterday
[03:51] <klontj> thoreauputic : thanks
[03:51] <cmcnamar> anyone know how to play mp3's?
[03:51] <intelikey> yesterday would be a good name for the next release......
[03:51] <thoreauputic> cfa: that should help - but make sure you have the right -dev packages as well for what you compile
[03:51] <ohmannnnn> test123
[03:51] <ohmannnnn> IRC SUCKS :)
[03:51] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[03:51] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:52] <Shadowpillar> How do I compile a kernel and make it into a .deb?
[03:52] <cmcnamar> i have a bunch of mp3 files but I can't seem to figure out how to play them...  the only player my computer seems to have is rhythmbox, and it won't let me play mp3's
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Shadowline: why?
[03:52] <dooglus> ssdd534: sessions only works when you log in.  he wants it to run at boot.  I would suggest /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: ^^^
[03:52] <ohmannnnn> is anyone familiar with freenode nickserv ?
[03:52] <ssdd534> o oops
[03:52] <ssdd534> read that wrong
[03:52] <dooglus> dnB: did you see that?  run your webfilter from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:52] <cfa> thoreauputic, i am going to install the madwifi-trunk-r1325-20051111
[03:53] <necator> what is a WxWindows application?
[03:53] <ssdd534> ok... iadded a new cdrom to my system... but it seems there is no /dev/hdd (where the new cdrom is)... what can i do to fix this?
[03:53] <dnB> dooglus, thanks ;)
[03:53] <ohmannnnn> can u people even see my text ? (again)
[03:54] <thoreauputic> cmcnamar: if you read the URL the bot spat out all will be revealed
[03:54] <trincamckee> thoreauputic, i  deleted one of those entries but when i log i continue with the 2 xfce entries
[03:54] <myrth_> grrr.. i've set in xorg.conf DisplaySize but the fonts are still huge, please someone help me...
[03:54] <intelikey> ssdd534 MAKEDEV cdrom  maybe
[03:54] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: that is very odd
[03:54] <trincamckee> /usr/share/xsessions/
[03:54] <trincamckee> thats the right dir?
[03:54] <markw> opinions on running 32bit?  Not that I need a huge addressable memory space or anything, the box should be _AS_ fast.
[03:55] <ohmannnnn> lol, im a ghost oaisjfoweijfwoiefjwoeifjwoiefjwoeifjwoeifj woeifj woeifjw eoifjw oeifj woiefj woiejfwoeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifjw oeifjwoeifj woeifj woiefj woeifj woiefj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj weoifj woeifj w
[03:55] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: does the entry reappear in that dir too?
[03:55] <trincamckee> do i have to reboot?
[03:55] <trincamckee> no
[03:55] <trincamckee> just to entries on xsession dir
[03:55] <ssdd534> intelikey, says it dosnt know how to make the device
[03:55] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: don't spam us please
[03:56] <trincamckee> what im trying to say is that i have just one xfce entrie
[03:56] <trincamckee> in xsessions
[03:56] <ohmannnnn> thomhash, i made a simple question where noone answered, so whought you dont see mee
[03:56] <trincamckee> but doesnt seemed to worked
[03:56] <dnB> dooglus, apparently its already in init.d, however it seems it loads before squid, which causes it to close down, know how i can change the boot order? so i can have it boot after squid?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: that's no escuse
[03:57] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: any repetition and you are out of here, sorry
[03:57] <Shadow_pillar> How do I compile a kernel and make it into a .deb?
[03:57] <ohmannnnn> thoreauputic, well, i'm here to HELP others and i registered my password with "/msg nickserv register <your-password>" as user "oskude", logout and set my "nickserv password" in xchat for freenode server". on login i get "Password accepted - you are now recognized: services. sets mode +e oskude: You have no new memos" and then i "/join #ubuntu" and when saying something i get "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel"...
[03:57] <thoreauputic> Shadow_pillar: why?
[03:58] <Shadow_pillar> I want to compile a custom kernel
[03:58] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: because from what I hear pre-emp support is disabled in the default kernel
[03:58] <rawtek> cfa; are you there
[03:58] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: because you have a gag (+q) I assume
[03:58] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: and between hoary and breezy, I can notice it when trying to do ink work under the gimp
[03:58] <intelikey> ssdd534 look in /dev/ide/cd or host0  and see if you don't already have a device inode for it.....  if so you can symlink that   ln -s /dev/ide/cd/blah  /dev/cdrom#
[03:58] <cfa> i am new to ubuntu and debian. I now RH, FreeBSD, Centos and other. does the standard install not include the source and how can i install it
[03:59] <balfour> Hi all.
[03:59] <Shadow_pillar> when drawing, it uses 100% of the cpu, and the mouse skips around
[03:59] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: which given your behaviour isn't surprising
[03:59] <cfa> rawtek yes how r u doing\
[03:59] <Shadow_pillar> ohmannnnn: would you have to be juho?
[03:59] <dooglus> dnB: you can edit the file and add stuff to it.  the numbers tell you the boot order.  look in /etc/rc2.d
[03:59] <Shadow_pillar> ohmannnnn: have = happen
[03:59] <dnB> dooglus, thanks ;)
[03:59] <ohmannnnn> thoreauputic, no, i was allways oskude in here, until i registered it and couldnt talk here
[03:59] <dooglus> dnB: and from what I remember, bootmisc.sh is one of the last things to run - after squid I should think
[03:59] <rawtek> cfa; great thanks how is your network now
[04:00] <cmcnamar> hey....
[04:00] <ohmannnnn> Shadow_pillar, no, i was allways oskude in here, until i registered it and couldnt talk here
[04:00] <cmcnamar> does anyone know how to install something from a .bin file in Ubuntu?
[04:00] <balfour> I'm trying to make a disk image of /dev/hdb, which may have been partially formatted, and I'm trying to move said image onto /home/theblue on /dev/hda1. I'm using the Hoary Live CD, as I don't want to screw up my normal Breezy configuration, and I want the image to be copied to the home folder on the Breezy installation.  Does anyone know how I would go about doing this?
[04:00] <dnB> dooglus, according to this squid is s30 and dansguardian is s50.. so it should already be in the correct order/
[04:00] <cmcnamar> I'm trying to install RealPlayer, but it's in a .bin file
[04:00] <dnB> ?*
[04:00] <dooglus> dnB: right.
[04:00] <ssdd534> intelikey, sorry to be a pain... seems i dont have a /dev/ide :/
[04:00] <thoreauputic> cmcnamar: be specific -what is it and why are you installing it?
[04:00] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: do I download a source deb package and compile it and then turn it into a deb?
[04:01] <cfa> sorry, back , have a newbirn and when he cries i need to run
[04:01] <dnB> dooglus, guess its some other problem then :) thanks
[04:01] <cmcnamar> it's RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[04:01] <cmcnamar> and I'm installing it because Rhythmbox can't play MP3's
[04:01] <ohmannnnn> thoreauputic, my (current) behaviour is caused by nickserv not working right
[04:01] <rawtek> cmcnamr; ./realplayer file name after you cd to its location
[04:01] <Shadow_pillar> # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
[04:01] <dooglus> dnB: if you rename the s50 to a k50, it won't run.  then you can run it from bootmisc.sh instead
[04:01] <thoreauputic> cmcnamar: ah sorry I didn't see your post
[04:01] <cmcnamar> and I want to play MP3's
[04:01] <dooglus> dnB: 's' for 'start', 'k' for 'kill'
[04:01] <Madpilot> !tell cmcnamar about mp3
[04:01] <cmcnamar> how do I do that?
[04:01] <dnB> dooglus, ahh ;)
[04:01] <rawtek> mp3 use special codecs see ubuntu wiki
[04:02] <dnB> dooglus, would you mind if i pmed you?
[04:02] <thoreauputic> cmcnamar:  run  chmod +x RealPlay*    then run  sudo ./RealpPlay*.bin
[04:02] <dooglus> dnB: you can try :)  you need to have your nick registered or it won't let you
[04:02] <rawtek> yup
[04:02] <dnB> heh, ok
[04:02] <cmcnamar> I read the RestrictedFormats page
[04:02] <dooglus> dnB: and I draw the line at cybersex
[04:02] <thoreauputic> !tell cmcnamar about restricted
[04:02] <cmcnamar> and it said that you can use RealPlayer
[04:03] <balfour> I'm trying to make a disk image of /dev/hdb, which may have been partially formatted, and I'm trying to move said image onto /home/theblue on /dev/hda1. I'm using the Hoary Live CD, as I don't want to screw up my normal Breezy configuration, and I want the image to be copied to the home folder on the Breezy installation.  Does anyone know how I would go about doing this?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> cmcnamar: YOU READ IT? iTTELLS YOU HOW!
[04:03] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: can you help with the custom kernel?
[04:03] <cmcnamar> which is what I'm trying to install...
[04:03] <balfour> And would "sudo cat /dev/hdb > ??????" work?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> Shadow_pillar: not really sorry
[04:03] <rawtek> cfa; did you get your a/g working
[04:03] <_native_> realplayer sucks install beep-media-player or xmms and libmad0
[04:03] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
[04:03] <Shadow_pillar>  in 2.6.10 on hoary # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
[04:03] <Shadow_pillar>  on breezy
[04:03] <cfa> rawtek the wireless did not work. do u know if the source is installed when u do a standard install
[04:03] <rawtek> i like amarok but that is just me
[04:03] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: my system is noticeably slow because of this
[04:03] <rawtek> cfa; what source please
[04:03] <Madpilot> cmcnamar: you don't need Realplayer just for mp3...
[04:04] <ohmannnnn> hmm, why cant i talk in #freenode ? i get "#freenode :Cannot send to channel" ?
[04:04] <balfour> Because you have to stay in #freenode for a while to get to be able to talk.
[04:04] <_native_> cmcnamar; install beep-media-player
[04:04] <ohmannnnn> ok, some1 granted me, foh
[04:04] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: they need to voice you
[04:04] <_native_> cmcnamar; and libmad0
[04:05] <cfa> linux kernel,
[04:05] <rawtek> cfa; I want to help you through this but you will need ndiswrapper installed and the driver file (not source) ready to go
[04:05] <balfour> So no one can tell me how to image a drive using Hoary Live?
[04:05] <intelikey>  libmad0 is in main but not on the cd.....   :)
[04:06] <cfa> rawtek the ndiswrapper is install
[04:06] <intelikey> balfour dd
[04:06] <cfa> installed
[04:06] <rawtek> ok how about the driver for your wireless
[04:06] <balfour> intelikey: dd if=/dev/hdb of=??
[04:06] <cfa> should i download the win drivers
[04:06] <rawtek> yes if you can get a hold of the win driver in .inf format
[04:06] <rawtek> do you have a disk
[04:06] <intelikey> balfour where ever you have room for it file.img
[04:06] <rawtek> that came with the pc
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> can someone explain ssh -x to me?
[04:07] <cfa> ok i will and i have a usb disk
[04:07] <balfour> intelikey: How do I get it to dump the .img file to my HD-installed Breezy ~ folder?
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~$ ssh -x<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:07] <bluefoxicy><EMAIL_ADDRESS>password:
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> rusty@icegate:~$ gedit
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> (gedit:21334): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> mainly, why in the fuck it doesn't work for me, ever.
[04:07] <cfa> rawtek going now to download
[04:07] <intelikey> point it at the mount point blafour
[04:07] <balfour> bluefoxicy: Language, please.
[04:07] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Did you export your display?
[04:08] <rawtek> ok i will be here ; cfa
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  no, how exactly is that done?
[04:08] <balfour> intelikey: I'm using the live CD, it'll go to the one on the CD, won't it?
[04:08] <balfour> intelikey: Or the ramdisk?
[04:08] <rawtek> cfa do you have an IM client
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> oh
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> holy crap, it's -X
[04:08] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Obviously you know X is a client <--> server model. From the remote host, try: export DISPLAY=your.ip.address:0.0
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  it's -X, not -x
[04:09] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Oh, ha
[04:09] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  excuse me for reading BSD mailing lists where nobody knows what a shift key is.
[04:09] <intelikey> balfour like 'dd if=/dev/hdb of=/media/hda/file.img '   or where ever your hd is mounted.
[04:09] <balfour> Ok, thanks.
[04:09] <rawtek> can I make the PC beep when someone writes specifically to me?
[04:09] <cmcnamar> i'm trying to install the realplayer
[04:10] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: You should try out nx, I am quite spoiled to it. And it is much faster than raw XDMP
[04:10] <balfour> intelikey: But I'm not sure where its mounted, and there's nothing in /media.
[04:10] <cmcnamar> but the restrictedformats web page
[04:10] <intelikey> rawtek xchat has that ability
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  i'm on breezy.  FreeNX isn't integrated
[04:10] <cmcnamar> says that there's a support package I'm supposed to have
[04:10] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: I believe that seveas's repo has packages, so yes it is :)
[04:10] <cmcnamar> how do I get htis package?
[04:10] <rawtek> I am using that how do i set it
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I searched a week ago for freenx.
[04:10] <intelikey> balfour ' df '    or     'mount '   either should tell you.
[04:10] <Madpilot> cmcnamar: the package has a name?
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  and just now.  Nothing.
[04:10] <cmcnamar> i don't know what the name is!
[04:10] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Didn't search hard enough: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/
[04:11] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  that's not in breezy, that's additional :)
[04:11] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: The developers are all kde developers for freenx
[04:11] <cfa> rawtek i download the drives, but it is an .exe
[04:11] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: your point being? It works fine
[04:11] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: And it goes through ssh
[04:11] <cmcnamar> it just says there's a "support package needed by realplayer" that i'm supposed to install
[04:11] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  oh jesus that means it'll take for eternity for gdm/freenx integration.
[04:11] <rawtek> ok so you have to unzip t
[04:11] <cheeby> hello
[04:11] <cfa> rawtek, ok
[04:11] <cfa> rawtek, 1 sec
[04:12] <rawtek> terminal unzip file name.exe
[04:12] <Madpilot> cmcnamar: read the stuff in the tan box - that mentions which addtional file you need
[04:12] <AwaySword> hello
[04:12] <intelikey> balfour also if you know that your hd is hda but it's not mounted you can 'fdisk /dev/hda -l ' to list the partitions on hda...  then mount it some place with 'sudo mount /dev/hda# /mount/point '
[04:12] <AwaySword> can somebody help me
[04:13] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Redhat had a guy working on vnc <--> gdm integration right before nx was released. Don't know what happened though
[04:13] <cmcnamar> what tan box?
[04:13] <myrth_> GTK styles and fonts doesn't start from settings.... what's the command line so i can see which error it gives?
[04:13] <cheeby> is there a quick debian way to add drivers and support for wireless?  I have a linksys wmp11.
[04:13] <cheeby> (desktop pc)
[04:13] <ohmannnnn> ok the friendly people at #freenode say the user "oskude" is muted here, may i ask why ??????
[04:13] <rawtek> cheeby ndiswrapper
[04:14] <Madpilot> cmcnamar: in the RealPlayer section of RestrictedFormats, there is a box that starts "cd ~/Desktop" - please read that box
[04:14] <SEJeff> cheeby: Install ndisgtk from universe
[04:14] <cfa> rawtek, unzip did nt work
[04:14] <cfa> not
[04:14] <AwaySword> how can i synchronise the time in my linux?
[04:14] <cheeby> does ndiswrapper require Windows drivers?
[04:14] <rawtek> yes
[04:14] <rawtek> cfa not sure where to go from here
[04:14] <rawtek> hold on
[04:14] <Shadow_pillar> BTW
[04:14] <Madpilot> AwaySword: right click on the clock, choose "Adjust Time & Date" - then pick an NTP server
[04:14] <balfour> intelikey: And is there a utility to undelete files?
[04:14] <fletch33> i think trying to switch to linux or ubu is the hardest thing ive evr done and i have done a lot of hard stuff
[04:14] <AwaySword> can't
[04:14] <balfour> fletch33: Nonsense.
[04:14] <AwaySword> it won't startup that time and date thingy
[04:15] <cheeby> SEJeff, can you tell me how that command would be phrased?
[04:15] <balfour> fletch33: Its not that hard.
[04:15] <SEJeff> fletch33, ubuntu is easy
[04:15] <fletch33> i really want htis to work
[04:15] <kestas> is there any method to the madness in the ubuntu version numbering scheme?
[04:15] <cheeby> apt-get install ndisgtk... ?
[04:15] <SEJeff> cheeby: Open up synaptic
[04:15] <balfour> fletch33: You could have been using slackware or gentoo.
[04:15] <Madpilot> AwaySword: what happens when you try and start it?
[04:15] <fletch33> i cant figure it out
[04:15] <AwaySword> it just won't start
[04:15] <ohmannnnn> could be that i (oskude) got "auto-muted" cause i used "ubotu" too often ? (wihtout /msg)
[04:15] <balfour> fletch33: Uh oh.
[04:15] <SEJeff> cheeby: Yes, as long as you have universe enabled, do you?
[04:15] <fletch33> and i know windows inside and out
[04:15] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I made this insane post on gnome's bugzilla about using gpg keys and the pgp global keyserver for an e-mail/signature authentication method, with user<->email mapping to get user/signature authentication.
[04:15] <DShepherd> fletch33: apt-get install easy-ubuntu :)
[04:15] <cheeby> SEJeff, not sure ... still installing.
[04:15] <Shadow_pillar> take notes: to all who complain about not being able to play realmedia and wmv files, find a w32codecs deb package, then install totem-xine
[04:15] <intelikey> yes. mc has a recovery method built in it, but i'v never used it. balfour
[04:15] <cfa> rawtek, i tried to unzip the .exe file, was that what i suppose to do
[04:15] <fletch33> what is that
[04:16] <Madpilot> AwaySword: "just won't start" isn't all that helpful... does Gnome give you an error message, or what?
[04:16] <DShepherd> fletch33: its a joke
[04:16] <fletch33> i just started thng up 2 days agois thi
[04:16] <fletch33> ok thanks
[04:16] <fletch33> lol
[04:16] <fletch33> ha ha ha ha
[04:16] <DShepherd> lol
[04:16] <intelikey> balfour there may be other ways...  best to not remove things you want to keep.
[04:16] <Shadow_pillar> gstreamer is absolute shit and shouldnt be included in ubuntu just yet
[04:16] <fletch33> bad typing sorry
[04:16] <ohmannnnn> any channel admins here ?
[04:16] <cheeby> SEJeff, this is kubuntu, so will kpackage work?
[04:16] <SEJeff> cheeby: I don't use kubuntu
[04:16] <balfour> intelikey: No, many things were accidentally deleted by Asterisk@Home setup, is there a way to get anything at all back?
[04:17] <SEJeff> cheeby: I guess it would, but I don't know how to enable universe with kpackage
[04:17] <cheeby> SEJeff, ok.  Just thought you'd know.
[04:17] <fletch33> all i really want to do at the moment is get my contacts and email form outlook to evolution
[04:17] <AwaySword> and in my terminal i get the error : sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 2005
[04:17] <rawtek> yes
[04:17] <fletch33> but i have been trying for 2 days
[04:17] <cheeby> SEJeff, what is the text file to edit so as to enable 'universe' ?
[04:17] <rawtek> folks how do we unzip a windows executable
[04:17] <intelikey> balfour if they were rm'd and things added after that probably not.
[04:17] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Most of your posts (lkml, ubuntu-devel) seem to be insane :-)
[04:17] <jrsims> ok, installed apache - now how do I start it?
[04:17] <balfour> intelikey: Nothing was added afterwards, it was just rm'd.
[04:17] <SEJeff> cheeby: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:17] <cheeby> SEJeff, cool.  thanks.
[04:17] <fletch33> i converted my eamil with thhunderbird but evo wont let me import it
[04:18] <rawtek> cfa: see if you can find just the driver (not the exe
[04:18] <cheeby> SEJeff, are you using wireless?
[04:18] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320279
[04:18] <intelikey> balfour then yes,  but as to how to i'll have to back out on that and say good luck.
[04:18] <fletch33> can u recommend some reading or a book or something so i can start to figure this out
[04:18] <balfour> intelikey: Um, thanks.
[04:18] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I'm of the persuasion that a GPG key should be the new identity.
[04:19] <intelikey> np
[04:19] <AwaySword> so i need to sync my clock to my terminal clock right madpilot?
[04:19] <SEJeff> cheeby: I use wpa
[04:19] <fletch33> at least the basics i want to get away from windows and into this but i dont know where to star
[04:19] <rawtek> cfa; do you not have a disk that cam with the pc
[04:19] <rawtek> came
[04:19] <DShepherd> fletch33: doc about ubuntu?
[04:19] <Madpilot> AwaySword: no idea... the Adjust Time & Date thing should work for you. Do any sudo functions work? Synaptic?
[04:19] <fletch33> yeah if that is possible
[04:19] <fletch33> basic commands or how to get and install softwqare
[04:19] <Madpilot> fletch33: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:19] <AwaySword> sudo gives error
[04:20] <cfa> rawtek, i did the linux drivers, i will look for the other win drives, yes i have the CD
[04:20] <DShepherd> fletch33:http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[04:20] <balfour> Can anyone else tell me how to undelete a file under the Hoary Live CD?
[04:20] <AwaySword> and synaptic won't start either
[04:20] <Madpilot> AwaySword: which error?
[04:20] <AwaySword> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 2005
[04:20] <Madpilot> AwaySword: and please start your posts w/ people's nicks - thanks...
[04:20] <rawtek> i only know how to use ndiswrapper with windows drivers, that is what it was designed for
[04:20] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: You should send in patches to do that. It would be very nice
[04:20] <rawtek> I have no experience with linux drivers
[04:20] <fletch33> i out 2 folders on my desktop and know they have a lock on them and ubu wont let me delete them
[04:21] <AwaySword> ok Madpilot
[04:21] <fletch33> sorry i dont type well opr really slow
[04:21] <intelikey> did someone say sync clocks ?
[04:21] <necator> WOOT ANJUTA WORKS JUST LIKE MY WINDOWS IDE!
[04:21] <AwaySword> <--
[04:21] <cfa> SEJeff how did u get wpa to work, is you wireless builtin and what chip set r u using
[04:21] <SEJeff> rawtek: In linux, there aren't "drivers" per se. They are called modules and are generally shipped with the kernel
[04:21] <balfour> necator: That's the goal.
[04:21] <AwaySword> intelikey, me
[04:21] <rawtek> the cd may contain the .inf files you need
[04:21] <Madpilot> intelikey: AwaySword has some sort of clock problem
[04:21] <intelikey> ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc
[04:21] <balfour> necator: many things ni Ubuntu are designed to look similiar to things in Windows.
[04:21] <SEJeff> cfa: It is a PITA. Google for wpa_supplicant. I am not going to help you set it up
[04:22] <intelikey> AwaySword ^
[04:22] <necator> balfour i am basically trying to eliminate windows completelly.
[04:22] <jrsims> quit
[04:22] <balfour> necator: I actually keep one Windows box around, just in case.
[04:22] <balfour> necator: But everything else is Linux.
[04:22] <fletch33> d how do i get rid of those floders
[04:22] <necator> balfour but i found gaming in linux is becomming a hassle so i might keep my win os around just to install some of my games when i get them in a few months.
[04:22] <AwaySword> intelikey, 13 Nov 04:22:15 ntpdate[9182] : bind() fails: Permission denied
[04:22] <rawtek> so i guess you could modprobe the module if you kneew whichine
[04:22] <rawtek> one
[04:22] <balfour> necator: That's a good idea.
[04:22] <necator> balfour but i been looking thru my windows and writing dow nthe stuff i use since i am new to linux.
[04:22] <DShepherd> balfour: just in case iof wat?
[04:22] <cfa> SEJeff r u using breezy
[04:22] <necator> balfour and am trying to find ways to do the same stuff in linux.
[04:22] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Did you mean PKE towards the end?
[04:22] <intelikey> sudo them AwaySword
[04:22] <balfour> DShepherd: Better safe then sorry.
[04:22] <SEJeff> cfa: dapper
[04:22] <Lord2k> Hi. Is there any other method I could use to install Ubuntu besides burning it onto a cd? My burner is somewhere else and there is no possible way I can obtain it tonight.
[04:23] <balfour> DShepherd: For any reason at all, its still useful to keep a Windows box aroudn.
[04:23] <rawtek> how is dapper working out for you
[04:23] <fletch33> ok thanks dshepherd i am going to read be back later with stupid questions
[04:23] <cfa> is that out
[04:23] <necator> balfour problem now is im reformating soon and not sure how much hdd space to give to windows.
[04:23] <AwaySword> intelikey, sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 2005
[04:23] <DShepherd> fletch33: yeah later
[04:23] <balfour> necator: What version of Windows?
[04:23] <necator> balfour xp
[04:23] <rawtek> SEJeff; how is dapper working for you
[04:23] <DShepherd> balfour: kool. I just wanted t know why
[04:23] <balfour> bluefoxicy: Give it 3 gigs for a core install.
[04:23] <SEJeff> rawtek: Nothing is broken yet except for ipod support. I really like it. Once x.org 7.0 is released in Dec and that gets put in dapper, it might be rough for a bit
[04:24] <ohmannnnn> could some1 say why "oskude" got banned ?
[04:24] <balfour> bluefoxicy: Sorry,that was stupid of me.
[04:24] <balfour> necator: Give it 3.5 gigs for the core, another gig or 2 per game if they're really new games.
[04:24] <intelikey> lol AwaySword man idk.....      do this 'sudo bash '    and in that shell run the command 'ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc'  it should work.....
[04:24] <fletch33> man i will trade something for someone to join me in any instant messenger for some personal training on a few things
[04:24] <necator> balfour if i reformat my windows do i have to redo the entire hard drive? like reconfigure linux also?
[04:24] <cfa> rawtek BRB going to Atheros for the drives, i have the CD for the laptop, but it is at work
[04:24] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: nvm. X.509 is really good
[04:25] <fletch33> like maybe an invite to www.oink.me.uk
[04:25] <AwaySword> intelikey,  again
[04:25] <Duvel> jaja
[04:25] <intelikey> yeah
[04:25] <balfour> necator: No, if you reformat your windows "drive", as Windows sees it, only the windows partition is affected.
[04:25] <gteppel> I tried to follow the instructions in the Ubunutu FAQ Guide to add universe and multiverse sources to my sources.list. when i do a apt-get update it works fine except for this server: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:25] <gteppel> . What might be wrong???
[04:25] <gteppel> also what is the difference between multiverse and universe
[04:25] <balfour> Windows "drives" are actually just windows-formatted partitions.
[04:25] <AwaySword> intelikey,  again same error
[04:25] <rawtek> just change apt sources config file references to breezy to dapper and go for it, right SEJeff
[04:25] <necator> balfour the windows install disc will only see the windows partion? and install to there only?
[04:25] <SEJeff> rawtek: That is correct
[04:25] <DShepherd> gteppel: mul
[04:25] <balfour> necator: Pretty much, but then it screws up the MBR.
[04:25] <_native_> paging Dr. watson greenthumb.
[04:25] <necator> balfour so either way my linux will be ruined then?
[04:26] <balfour> necator: No, there's ways to restore GRUB or LILO.
[04:26] <intelikey> AwaySword i've never seen that error and i've had the system clock years off on this box....
[04:26] <DShepherd> gteppel: sorry mult--- that's right
[04:26] <balfour> necator: I'm just not sure of them.
[04:26] <necator> balfour maybe it will be healthy to reformat my linux too? even tho this was my first install ever of linux and its been pretty tuff setting everything up.
[04:26] <SEJeff> gteppel: multiverse contains software that is not open source or has legal issues in some countries (mp3, divx support, flash player, adobe acrobad reader, etc)
[04:26] <AwaySword> :(
[04:26] <gteppel> SEJeff: okay
[04:26] <necator> balfour so thats what i would have to do reinstall a boot loader?
[04:26] <trincamckee> can someone help me here: ttp://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , i have to xfce session entriesm how can i delete one of them?
[04:26] <necator> balfour thats what windows would mess up?
[04:26] <myrth_> which package includes gtk-config?
[04:26] <SEJeff> gteppel: universe is just a ton of extra software that isn't officially supported, but still works fine 99.9% of the time
[04:26] <balfour> necator: Yeah, just install a bootloader, that's all that Windows would mess up.
[04:26] <intelikey> AwaySword google the error
[04:26] <AwaySword> intelikey,  :(
[04:27] <balfour> necator: Although I could be mistaken, it may want to wipe the drive.
[04:27] <necator> balfour would the breezy cd have that on there?
[04:27] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  oh shit
[04:27] <gteppel> The only multiverse server in my breezy install doesn't work... are there others?
[04:27] <balfour> necator: Yes, the Breezy CD would.
[04:27] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  this samsung CLP-510 says it's linux compatible, but you actually have to install drivers for it o_o
[04:27] <necator> balfour would i have to reinstall breezy to be bale to use that bootloader or is it just a nice option waiting for such situations?
[04:27] <intelikey> sorry AwaySword, that's standard clock syncronization i gave you.
[04:27] <balfour> necator: I don't know.
[04:27] <necator> balfour if i deep freeze my windows theres no real need for anti virus and firewall and such there right?
[04:27] <cheeby> SEJeff, are there any docs for setting up wireless on the ubuntulinux site?  I can't seem to find any.
[04:27] <balfour> necator: Firewall, you shuold defenitely keep.
[04:28] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: bummer
[04:28] <rawtek> has anyone has trouble with the backorts
[04:28] <balfour> necator: Antivirus isn't nearly as needed, there's one in APT in case you do.
[04:28] <necator> balfour since im probally only going to be using it for gaming.
[04:28] <Madpilot> !tell cheeby about wireless
[04:28] <rawtek> ports
[04:28] <SEJeff> cheeby: Search the wiki and forums. There are a ton of docs
[04:28] <myrth_> how do i search for package by the file it includes?
[04:28] <balfour> necator: If you're not gonna use the Internet at all on Windows, nope.
[04:28] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  to make matters w orse, samsung's site goes to nowhere.
[04:28] <Duvel> anybody experience with bluetooth? want to use my se t610 to control for example xmms or bmp or whatever... it's possible in win...
[04:28] <bluefoxicy>  The resource cannot be found.
[04:28] <necator> balfour well for online gaming ya.
[04:28] <bluefoxicy> Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.
[04:28] <necator> balfour but no web surfing most liekly not.
[04:28] <foampeace> http://www.trevorvanmeter.com/flyguy/
[04:28] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Awesome
[04:28] <balfour> necator: Oh god no, use A/V and firewall on Windows if you're using the Internet at all.
[04:28] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff: http://www.samsung.com/Products/PrinterandMultifunction/ColorLaserPrinters/CLP_510XAA.asp  Do most of the images seem broken to you?
[04:29] <ohmannnnn> im VERY VERY sory that im a noob and used the bot too often wihtout "/msg", i learned my lesson and registered to beable to use "/msg". so please unban "oskude"...
[04:29] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Do you want me to tell you when that freeze issue with vSecurity is worked out so you can test it?
[04:29] <necator> balfour do i need a/v and firewall on linux?
[04:29] <cheeby> SEJeff, ok.  the initial scan revealed nothing.  But, I am dealing with a toddler here.
[04:29] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  more pertainently, does the 'drivers' link break?
[04:29] <cheeby> Thanks.
[04:29] <trincamckee> can someone help me here: ttp://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , i have to xfce session entriesm how can i delete one of them?
[04:29] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  yeah, alright; but I have an uptime of 64 days now ;)
[04:29] <rawtek> SEJeff; are the backports for breezy dwon
[04:29] <ian> Anybody have MythTV working on Breezy?
[04:29] <balfour> necator: a/v, not really, but its a good idea, firewall, absolutely.
[04:29] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I'll try it on my laptop
[04:29] <rawtek> down
[04:29] <balfour> necator: Firestarter is a nice firewall.
[04:29] <Duvel> !botsnack
[04:30] <ubotu> :)
[04:30] <balfour> necator: !botsnack
[04:30] <bluefoxicy> oh god firestarter.
[04:30] <balfour> Woops.
[04:30] <Duvel> lol
[04:30] <balfour> !botsnack
[04:30] <kestas> firestarter isnt a firewall
[04:30] <ian> or even just TVTIME
[04:30] <necator> balfour is it preinstalled with ubuntu or is that something i do in apt?
[04:30] <Duvel> :d
[04:30] <kestas> it just configures other firewalls like iptables
[04:30] <balfour> necator: I take that back.
[04:30] <bluefoxicy> balfour:  if you use irc connection tracking, it'll break it :)
[04:30] <balfour> necator: HOWEVER.
[04:30] <bluefoxicy> err.
[04:30] <SEJeff> rawtek: I already said I was on dapper. I don't use breezy on my main desktop, only my work laptop and I don't use backports on it so I don't know
[04:30] <Duvel> !botsnack
[04:30] <ubotu> thanks duvel :)
[04:30] <balfour> necator: rob.pectol.com has Ubuntu-firewall, which is a commandline utility.
[04:30] <necator> balfour so ubuntu doesnt have firewall built in?
[04:30] <balfour> necator: It can also do internet connection sharing.
[04:30] <rawtek> SEJeff ; my fault forgot
[04:31] <balfour> necator: It does, but I'm not sure how to use it.
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> the default ubuntu kernel is horribly broken
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> requesting someone fix this
[04:31] <SEJeff> necator: There are 0 ports open on default ubuntu
[04:31] <kinkoblast> Are there any decent strategy games in the repos? (Example: Command and Conquer)
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> I sent the maintainer an email
[04:31] <SEJeff> Shadowpillar: funny, works horribly well for me
[04:31] <gteppel> what are breezy backports? apt-get update crashes on this server-> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:31] <Xenguy> necator: shorewall is worth a look if you don't require a GUI
[04:31] <balfour> kinkoblast: craft is good.
[04:31] <necator> xenguy i dont even know if i have a firewall or need to add one :p
[04:31] <Madpilot> kinkoblast: Battle for Wesnoth - not a RTS, but very good
[04:31] <SEJeff> necator: Do you want a firewall for a desktop or server?
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: when you have a 400 mhz cpu, the lack of pre-empt support is noticeable
[04:31] <Xenguy> necator: you don't have a firewall by default...
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: as in applications lock up easily
[04:32] <necator> sejeff im on a desktop.
[04:32] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: and I cant use the GIMP
[04:32] <AwaySword> intelikey, i found it :)
[04:32] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: 100% cpu usage when drawing
[04:32] <SEJeff> necator: apt-get install firestarter
[04:32] <necator> will i neeed anti virus and anti malware programs as well or just a firewall?
[04:32] <Xenguy> necator: adding one or not is your decision, and depends on your circumstances and needs really
[04:32] <balfour> necator: Just a firewall, but A/V is still a good idea if you're worried.
[04:32] <SEJeff> Shadowpillar: gnome/gtk isn't that great on a 400MHZ
[04:32] <necator> balfour isnt it not likely that id get a virus on linux?
[04:32] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: I know it's the lack of pre-empt because I ran it with the 2.6.10 kernel and it's fine
[04:33] <SEJeff> necator: No, you don't need AV. This is linux.
[04:33] <balfour> necator: Its not likely, but its not impossible.
[04:33] <bluefoxicy> Shadowpillar:  yeah.  There's exactly one application that breaks from a bug in 2.6.12 preempt.
[04:33] <Xenguy> necator: AV is nice, but optional on linux; malware isn't usually a problem, but rkhunter and chkrootkit are good to have running IMHO
[04:33] <balfour> necator: Though if you're not absolutely paranoid, you don't need it.
[04:34] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: well uh huh, yeah, but, like I said, it's the lack of pre-empt that is hurting my system
[04:34] <necator> theres so much i have to learn in the linux word it feels like im starting all over as a computer user =(
[04:34] <trincamckee> i have two xfce session entries how can i delete one of them? http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , so that u can see waht im trying to say...
[04:34] <necator> i dont know where to go where to begin what to do next.
[04:34] <balfour> necator: That's part of the fun of it.
[04:34] <Shadowpillar> bluefoxicy: which is?
[04:34] <SEJeff> Shadowpillar: Yes, that is odd why it is off. I just grepped /boot/config* and you are right
[04:34] <bluefoxicy> Shadowpillar:  some optional network applet.
[04:34] <kinkoblast> SEJeff: Gnome is SLOW on anything below 500. XFCE is SO much better on older systems. (I like it better anyway, but that's me :-P)
[04:34] <SEJeff> Shadowpillar, # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
[04:34] <kbrooks> bbl bed
[04:34] <necator> balfour be nice if i could talk with some of u guys on aim finding people in here can be diffiuclt
[04:34] <balfour> necator: Oh you bet.
[04:34] <Fr0Gs> how can i get quake3 to work on ubuntu?
[04:34] <balfour> necator: Ubuntu has very good user support, as you've seen.
[04:34] <SEJeff> kinkoblast: But thanks to geniuses like federico, mattias, behad, etc... gnome 2.14+ will be much faster
[04:34] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff, Shadowpillar: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11906
[04:34] <balfour> necator: Much better than those 1-800 tech support numbers.
[04:35] <necator> balfour first time on linux all my research pointed me to ubuntu
[04:35] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  oh oh sweet, is 2.14 in beta?  :)
[04:35] <balfour> necator: And your research was right.
[04:35] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: yep, I wonder if it's working in the 686 version
[04:35] <necator> balfour not to mention there was only 1 cd i had to download lol
[04:35] <kinkoblast> SEJeff: True. I'll still like XFCE better.
[04:35] <necator> balfour compared to the 2-3 cds the other distros were using.
[04:35] <balfour> necator: You could have gotten it for free in the mail.
[04:35] <_native_> tell frogs about quake3
[04:35] <_native_> !tell frogs about quake3
[04:35] <Shadowpillar> BlueEagle: so, because of some optional app, the whole system has to suffer instead of fixing that app?
[04:35] <Shadowpillar> er
[04:35] <necator> balfour i did get it for free.
[04:35] <Shadowpillar> bluefoxicy: so, because of some optional app, the whole system has to suffer instead of fixing that app?
[04:35] <ohmannnnn> any channel admins around ?
[04:35] <necator> balfour downloaded and burned within the same day
[04:35] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: From my machine right now: gnome-panel                           2.13.1-0ubuntu1
[04:35] <_native_> hum
[04:36] <balfour> necator: Right.
[04:36] <ian> apt-get remove doesnt seem to totally remove an application, what should I be using to remove all traces of a specific application?
[04:36] <necator> balfour do you have aim ? hard to conversate here and feels wrong since its more of a tech support spot it seems.
[04:36] <SEJeff> kinkoblast: So does my little sister. Most of my workstations are openbox or gnome. It depends
[04:36] <Shadowpillar> I have to rely on the standard kernel because I use the nvidia kernel module
[04:36] <balfour> necator: Just type /msg theblue and then your message to me.
[04:36] <SEJeff> necator: use /msg balfour
[04:36] <Shadowpillar> is it me or is each ubuntu release becoming more and more broken?
[04:36] <balfour> Woops.
[04:36] <tryingsomething> sure why not
[04:37] <SEJeff> Shadowpillar: It is you
[04:37] <tryingsomething> im converting to kubuntu
[04:37] <ohmannnnn> ubotu sucks :)
[04:37] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ohmannnnn
[04:37] <kinkoblast> SEJeff: I agree. I know people who swear by KDE. I can't stand it. My REAL favorite is Aqua (Mac OS X) which is why I have Ubuntu on one moniter and 10.3.9 on the other :-)
[04:37] <tryingsomething> hehe
[04:37] <tryingsomething> how can you get aqua on kde ?
[04:37] <Fr0Gs> i need help installing quake 3
[04:38] <tryingsomething> quake 3 is easy
[04:38] <kinkoblast> tryingsomething: You can't.
[04:38] <tryingsomething> do a search in google
[04:38] <ohmannnnn> i got screwed by ubotu, who can unban my user ? :)
[04:38] <kinkoblast> .zel
[04:39] <tryingsomething> anyone use 6800 nvidia with ubuntu?
[04:39] <tryingsomething> what driver do u use?
[04:39] <tryingsomething> which rather
[04:39] <LoneWolf071> does anyone here use hydra? or can recommend any network logon crackers?
[04:39] <tryingsomething> do you download nvidia's and compile or use the one that came with ubuntu?
[04:39] <feugan3333> hi all. Anyone know what package contains the "termlib" library?
[04:39] <tryingsomething> search synaptic
[04:39] <tryingsomething> it will tell u
[04:39] <ian> Anyone have a Hauppauge PVR card working ith breezy...?
[04:39] <SEJeff> LoneWolf071: hydra is very good
[04:39] <cfa> rawtek i have not found the drivers, just the linux ones. i need to run make and the kernelpath is not set right. do u know where the kernel is? do i need to install it if it is not in /usr/linux/src
[04:40] <ohmannnnn> i got a miroPCTV working on breezy :)
[04:40] <kinkoblast> :-( Finder spoiled me, any other file manager doesn't feel right anymore.
[04:40] <SEJeff> cfa: /usr/src/linux
[04:40] <ian> ohmannnnn, whats that exactly?
[04:40] <cfa> SEJeff it is not there
[04:40] <SEJeff> kinkoblast: You need to look at beagle + deskbar. That will spoil you
[04:40] <ohmannnnn> ian, i analog tv decoder
[04:40] <LoneWolf071> SEJeff, have you ever gottern the SSH cracker for it working?
[04:41] <tryingsomething> finder is da best
[04:41] <ian> ohmannnnn, does it use the ivtv driver?
[04:41] <blackhat> Whats a good program from copying DVDs like DVDDecrypter (for linux)
[04:41] <DShepherd> tryingsomething: I agree so far. Beagle has promis though
[04:41] <ohmannnnn> ian, dont think so, its like atleast 5years old card (bttv driver)
[04:41] <tryingsomething> hmm beagle
[04:41] <DShepherd> promise*
[04:41] <tryingsomething> will check out
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> blackhat, you use hydra or any network logon crackers?
[04:41] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: Have you ever used deskbar with beagle integration?
[04:41] <tryingsomething> what's best way to find it on google or is it on sourceforge?
[04:42] <tryingsomething> no
[04:42] <blackhat> no
[04:42] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: you are really missing out
[04:42] <blackhat> also whats a good program to burn DVD and CD iso files.
[04:42] <kinkoblast> blackhat: VLC can do it in theory, but i never quite got it working (got sound, but not video. Probably would work if I chose something other than Theora.)
[04:42] <DShepherd> tryingsomething: google is your friend ;)
[04:42] <tryingsomething> ok im checking it out lol
[04:42] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: sudo apt-get install deskbar
[04:42] <ian> ohmannnnn, oh ok. thanks anyway.
[04:42] <LoneWolf071> SEJeff, have you ever gottern the SSH cracker for it working?
[04:42] <ohmannnnn> Seveas, are you there ?
[04:42] <tryingsomething> ok
[04:42] <SEJeff> LoneWolf071: I'm not going to talk about penetration testing on #ubuntu sorry
[04:42] <tryingsomething> apt get ok
[04:42] <tryingsomething> im booted into windows currently though
[04:43] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  holy shit~
[04:43] <tryingsomething> will try soon though
[04:43] <LoneWolf071> ok, thanks
[04:43] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  the 2.12 release notes apparently whisper that Gnome will be available for Windows in 2.14
[04:43] <LoneWolf071> SEJeff, can you point me to a room where i can get info?
[04:43] <SEJeff> LoneWolf071: Last time I gave a brief tutorial on wireless hacking and I had 50 people /msg me next time I logged in
[04:43] <ian> Any TvTime experts out there....?
[04:43] <kinkoblast> trysomething: Uninstall it. If you are going to use a proppritary os, make it be! be is nice.
[04:43] <tryingsomething> oh beagle is that spotlight type app
[04:43] <tryingsomething> cool
[04:43] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff: "And now many more GNOME libraries, including ORBit2, libbonobo, libgnome, libbonoboui, libgnomeui and gnome-vfs, can build on Microsoft Windows, making it easier to build and distribute GNOME applications on that platform. While this support is not yet complete, it may be sufficient for some applications, and is expected to be complete in the next release of GTK+ and GNOME."
[04:43] <tryingsomething> ithink i heard of it
[04:43] <ohmannnnn> <<< got scruwed by a bot, lol :)
[04:43] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: link blease
[04:43] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff: http://gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/rndevelopers.html  At the bottom, read into it.
[04:43] <DShepherd> bluefoxicy: really kool!!
[04:44] <Shadowpillar> bluefoxicy: thus, might be possible for ubuntu over windows
[04:44] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  they're saying that some gnome apps should be buildable on Windows now, but it's not complete; but that full Windows support for all gnome libraries should be ready in the next release.
[04:44] <LoneWolf071> SEJeff, can you point me to a room where i can get info?
[04:44] <kinkoblast> Now, id only they would get GTK working on OS X.
[04:44] <cfa> SEJeff in a standard install, is the kernel src not install, because it is not in /usr/linux/src
[04:44] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  And full support for all gnome applications on windows.
[04:44] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: But hal needs kernel support and thats what gives gnome the hardware "just works" coolness factor
[04:44] <ohmannnnn> !abantest1
[04:44] <ubotu> ohmannnnn: Not a clue
[04:44] <ohmannnnn> !abantest2
[04:44] <ubotu> ohmannnnn: I haven't a clue
[04:44] <Shadowpillar> kinkoblast: I thought gtk was working on OSX already?
[04:44] <ohmannnnn> !abantest3
[04:44] <ubotu> No idea, ohmannnnn
[04:44] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  This leads into gnome, being a gnome app itself, working on windows, ne?
[04:44] <ohmannnnn> !abantest5
[04:45] <ubotu> ohmannnnn: Are you smoking crack?
[04:45] <ohmannnnn> !abantest6
[04:45] <ubotu> ohmannnnn: Not a clue
[04:45] <SEJeff> LoneWolf071: www.packetstormsecurity.org. Do some reading and figure it out. hyrdra is easy to use
[04:45] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  heh.  Gnome would probably have to re-hal for windows.  :P
[04:45] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, you were banned by an op, not the bot
[04:45] <kinkoblast> Shadowpiller: I never got it working. I never even got sdl working.
[04:45] <LoneWolf071> SEJeff, i know how to use it, but the SSh mod needs libSSh which is not really working, but TY for the help
[04:45] <blackhat> also whats a good program to burn DVD and CD *.iso files.
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> k3b
[04:45] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: gnome being a gtk "app" could possibly work on windows.  It would need to be rewrote
[04:45] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, oh, you know by who, and why ?
[04:45] <ian> wickedpuppy, Singaporean?
[04:46] <blackhat> Thats KED
[04:46] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  yes, likely.  What exactly does HAL do, besides pop up a nautilus window when my USB drive is inserted :)
[04:46] <kinkoblast> Ubotu is naughty.  It is also what allows all of the hardware to integrate so well in gnome
[04:47] <kinkoblast> Ubotu: if x=3 what is 2x^2?
[04:47] <ubotu> kinkoblast: what are you talking about?
[04:47] <ian> wickedpuppy, u there?
[04:47] <kinkoblast> ubotu: Green people
[04:47] <ubotu> kinkoblast: Are you on ritalin?
[04:47] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Take a look at opensolaris, hal won't run on the solaris kernel. Gnome kind of sucks without hal
[04:47] <kinkoblast> (i'm done now_
[04:47] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, how do you know i (oskude) was banned by op ?
[04:48] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  all of the hardware being NIC, screen resolution, sound card and volume mixer, and uSB drives?
[04:48] <dreumah> hello anyone know a microsoft avi codec player?
[04:48] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, you can look it up at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[04:48] <kinkoblast> dreuma: vlc
[04:48] <kinkoblast> !vlc
[04:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[04:48] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, checking
[04:48] <cfa> SEJeff in a standard install, is the kernel src not install, because it is not in /usr/linux/src
[04:48] <bluefoxicy> cfa:  /usr/src/linux, and no.
[04:48] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: any removable media, hid devices like mice and wireless keyboards, usb anything, etc
[04:49] <ubuntuamr> ola, alguem aqui manja de parties para caralho, estou com um probleminha
[04:49] <SEJeff> cfa: I know that. Install the kernel-headers
[04:49] <ubuntuamr> in english here ?
[04:49] <kestas> guys how can I make hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb stick when I reset?
[04:49] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  do you think we REALLY need better post-install hardware detection on the install side?
[04:49] <SEJeff> cfa: And like I pointed out, the correct directory is /usr/src/linux
[04:49] <ubuntuamr> algum brasileiro ?
[04:49] <RedRose> after upgrading to breezy from hoary, hplip was added to my users, and ports 1025-1026 were opened, why?
[04:49] <cfa> ok thanx, can i add with Synap
[04:49] <dooglus> kestas: you can run it from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:49] <kestas> dooglus, thanks
[04:49] <RedRose> and hpssh and hpiod are running
[04:49] <balfour> !tell balfour about quake3
[04:50] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: I think we need the idea that Microsoft wants for Vista about hardware
[04:50] <cfa> yes. sorry i know
[04:50] <kinkoblast> ubuntuamr: English please. None of us speak (Portugeese?)
[04:50] <dreumah> hello anyone know a microsoft avi codec player?
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  Try this when you have a chance.  Get an nVidia card, and a radeon.  Install ubuntu with the nvidia card (don't worry about hardware accelerator, just install and let it use 'nv'), and then shutdown and swap to the radeon
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  When you boot back up, GDM fails to start.
[04:50] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Replace the motherboard and all of the components minus the harddrive, boot the system, and everything works perfectly
[04:50] <RedRose> what is hplips?
[04:50] <kinkoblast> dreumah: VLC! (sudo apt-get vlc)
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I've done that!
[04:50] <dreumah> i tried vlc it doesnt work
[04:50] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: I believe that.
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  It's been like that forever, minus the video card drivers changing.
[04:51] <dooglus> dreumah: pretty much any player with play .avi movies if you have the codecs
[04:51] <bluefoxicy> dreumah:  use xine-ui
[04:51] <tryingsomething> i hate ati
[04:51] <tryingsomething> ati sucks
[04:51] <dreumah> tried that too
[04:51] <tryingsomething> dont buy ati
[04:51] <dreumah> it seems to not work on any of the players
[04:51] <dooglus> tryingsomething: what's wrong with ati?
[04:51] <kestas> dooglus, hdparm -k 1 /dev/dvd will make it keep the settings you set
[04:51] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, lol, a 2mb html, waiting for render...
[04:51] <tryingsomething> they dont support linux
[04:51] <kinkoblast> dreumah: It's probably DRMed then. Try Windows Media Player.
[04:51] <dooglus> kestas: it will?  cool.
[04:51] <ubuntuamr> I need help with partitions. Any can help-me ?
[04:51] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: hal would detect the new card. It would be up to a user space daemon to change the x.org configuration
[04:52] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  which we don't have.
[04:52] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: the infrastructure is in place, it's just very new and in rapid development
[04:52] <dreumah> how do i do that in ubuntu?
[04:52] <dooglus> tryingsomething: they do
[04:52] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Why don't you write something :)
[04:52] <kinkoblast> dreumah: wine might work.
[04:52] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  because I don't fully understand the technical implications.
[04:52] <kinkoblast> any
[04:52] <RedRose> what is HPLIP/HPSSH/HPIOD and why after updating did they get installed on my PC?
[04:52] <dooglus> tryingsomething: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300 is ati linux drivers
[04:52] <SEJeff> RedRose: For HP printers I believe
[04:52] <dreumah> i dont know how to use wine
[04:52] <nickrud> RedRose, they are hp specific, for the office jet & psc stuff
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> dreumah, wine /path/to/exe.exe
[04:53] <RedRose> but why did they install on my machine? is there an apt log?
[04:53] <RedRose> maybe i accidently installed it via apt
[04:53] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: I got one of the ATI 9250 cards. EXA works really well so I get some luminosity wobbly windows style love
[04:54] <SEJeff> RedRose: Likely a dep of something
[04:54] <DShepherd> SEJeff: what is EXA?
[04:54] <RedRose> yeah...
[04:54] <kinkoblast> Kelkaj Esprantlingvo parolantoj?
[04:54] <RedRose> so is there an apt log of download things?
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> kinkoblast, english pls
[04:54] <dooglus> RedRose: /var/log/dpkg.log I think
[04:54] <SEJeff> RedRose: /var/log/dpkg.log
[04:54] <SEJeff> yep
[04:55] <kinkoblast> wickedpuppy: Any Esperanto speakers?
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> !es
[04:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:55] <RedRose> k
[04:55] <dooglus> that's espanol, not esperanto :)
[04:55] <Agrajag> esperanto is eo
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> oh
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> !eo
[04:55] <ubotu> Wish i knew, wickedpuppy
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> i wish i know too ubotu
[04:56] <dcarpenter> k
[04:56] <SEJeff> DShepherd: http://www.freedesktop.org/~jonsmirl/graphics.html it makes things like xcompmgr more usable
[04:56] <kinkoblast> Esperanto is a supported install language. too.
[04:56] <kinkoblast> !esperanto
[04:56] <ubotu> kinkoblast: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:56] <cfa> how do i add the linux src to /usr/src/linux
[04:56] <ohmannnnn> this was the newest i found http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-2005-11-12.html and theres not mentioned why/how "oskude" got banned...
[04:56] <Agrajag> what about lojban
[04:56] <DShepherd> SEJeff: ok
[04:56] <ubuntuamr> a have 5 partitions on my hd, but last weekend, had I instaled the win xp for my wife and my partitions are not visible now, when I try to install the kubuntu 5.10, simply show the partition windows on hda1, but I can mount the other partition exiting of the instalation and going to the terminal. What can I do ?
[04:56] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, RedRose is gone (I need to stop talking where while I work, I can't keep up)
[04:56] <nickrud> heh, oh, man ;(
[04:56] <SEJeff> cfa: sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[04:57] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, RedRose banned me ?
[04:57] <nickrud> nosilver4u, bad nick completion
[04:57] <cfa> great thanx
[04:57] <nickrud> again
[04:58] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, I guess #ubuntu is to fast for a current, I didn't check.
[04:58] <fletch33> man i hat e to do this bit i really need some advoce on how to fix this and what it means
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <rob1> grr
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <Madpilot> !tell fletch33 about paste
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <rob1> fletch33, don't paste that here
[04:58] <nickrud> fletch33, one line would have been enough
[04:58] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, i just wonder how u know (oskude) was banned by op ?
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_di
[04:58] <fletch33> sorry
[04:59] <fletch33> i know that was bad buit
[04:59] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, I keep irc logs, since they're already out on the net.
[04:59] <kinkoblast> !esperanto
[04:59] <fletch33> sorry i didnt know what to do
[04:59] <ubotu> it has been said that esperanto is the international language. (Esperanto estas la lingva internacia)   More info at http://www.lernu.net
[04:59] <necator> what is a file that ends in .o?
[04:59] <fletch33> i am really really sorry
[04:59] <fletch33> can u help
[04:59] <kinkoblast> necator: Object code.
[04:59] <necator> kinkoblast is that like an executeable of my source then?
[04:59] <fletch33> i cant get breezy or the other stuff
[05:00] <necator> fletch33 go into your reposties and turn off the ones that say backports on it.
[05:00] <gerbman> fletch, you can paste stuff here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ and link to it
[05:00] <ohmannnnn> <<< is confused about pannig policy, didnt even get a warning...
[05:00] <kinkoblast> necator: An intermediate step.
[05:00] <fletch33> ok how
[05:00] <nickrud> fletch33, there still must not be any breezy backports, comment them out
[05:00] <ohmannnnn> *panning = banning
[05:00] <fletch33> where
[05:00] <necator> kinkoblast can u explain? im new to compiling and stuff on linux.
[05:00] <nickrud> fletch33, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:00] <durt> necator: you want to make an executable with gcc?
[05:00] <rob1> ohmannnnn, its simple, do stupid things = ban
[05:01] <Fr0Gs> where can i get the ubuntu fglrx drivers?
[05:01] <necator> durt i dont know what gcc is and what do u mean executebale? like an exe? cuss they are already executeable im using ajuta.
[05:01] <kinkoblast> necator: Join the club
[05:01] <nickrud> fletch33, put a ' # ' in front of the lines with breezy backports in them
[05:01] <ohmannnnn> rob1, i didnt do "stupid" things !
[05:01] <necator> kinkoblast your new to linux also/
[05:01] <necator> ?
[05:01] <fletch33> i am sorry i dont know what any of that ,eans
[05:01] <tryingsomething> ive tried a lot of linux disastros in my day
[05:01] <necator> fletch33 open up synpaitc
[05:01] <kinkoblast> necator: Pretty much. A month or so under my belt
[05:01] <fletch33> k
[05:01] <tryingsomething> probably from since mandrake 7.2 up to suse 10 beta
[05:01] <necator> kinkoblast me about a week
[05:01] <necator> kinkoblast you program in c++?
[05:01] <nickrud> fletch33, start with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:02] <necator> fletch do u got it open?
[05:02] <nickrud> or, as necator says :)
[05:02] <fletch33> i opened package manger now what
[05:02] <kinkoblast> Necator: I barly program in BASIC.
[05:02] <tryingsomething> and ubuntu has been the best ive tried so far minus - some parts have been easier on suse  like windows paritions were automatically mounted and linked
[05:02] <fletch33> what is sudo
[05:02] <ohmannnnn> rob1, i just (maybe) asked the bot too often without "/msg", but someone said i was not banned by a bot, i was banned by an op. and i would like to know why.
[05:02] <necator> kinkoblast o i skipped basic and went right into c++
[05:02] <gerbman> Fr0gs: see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[05:02] <necator> fletch33 now go to settings > then repostiories
[05:02] <fletch33> i knok
[05:02] <fletch33> there
[05:03] <nickrud> fletch33, sudo is super user do, but, synaptic is better right now
[05:03] <durt> necator: to make a binary, run "g++ whatever.cpp -o whatever"
[05:03] <fletch33> k
[05:03] <necator> fletch33 scroll thru the list and UNCHECK the boxes that have the words backports in them.
[05:03] <kinkoblast> durt: Unless it's a multi-file program. that's just fucjed up.
[05:03] <fletch33> k
[05:03] <necator> fletch33 when u uncheck em all then you can close it.
[05:03] <kinkoblast> !fuck
[05:03] <ubotu> fuck is, like, a wonderful, versatile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav
[05:03] <fletch33> 1 sec
[05:03] <nickrud> ubotu forget fuck
[05:03] <ubotu> i forgot fuck, nickrud
[05:03] <necator> durt i am using adjuta i think it makes them executeable already for me when i compile.
[05:03] <myrth_> how do i change fonts of gtk apps?
[05:03] <necator> durt it is an ide.
[05:04] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: Many of our desktops at work are suse 10. Ubuntu has 10x the amount of software SUSE does
[05:04] <kinkoblast> I didn't teach him that!
[05:04] <fletch33> ok unchecked
[05:04] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: And ubuntu works better for me than SUSE does
[05:04] <ohmannnnn> can someone see/tell why "oskude" was banned ?
[05:04] <durt> necator: yeah... i dont know how anjuta works - try geany
[05:05] <necator> durt ive only had anjuta about 5 mins seems fine tho.
[05:05] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: probably because he was breaking the rules or acting stupid. can you quit asking why he was banned?
[05:05] <nickrud> fletch33, now click ok
[05:05] <necator> durt only other ide ive ever used is blood shed devC++ under windows.
[05:05] <nickrud> fletch33, then click reload
[05:05] <fletch33> k
[05:05] <necator> fletch33 yup do what nickrud said.
[05:06] <necator> fletch33 and that error should be gone.
[05:06] <ohmannnnn> SEJeff, lol, so i should quit cause of u assume something ?
[05:06] <nickrud> fletch33, you should be ok now
[05:06] <dooglus> 02:30 < oskude> ubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv
[05:06] <dooglus> 02:31 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b %oskude!*@*]  by Seveas
[05:06] <necator> durt how long you been using linux?
[05:06] <rob1> ohmannnnn, you need to talk to Seveas when he is here
[05:06] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: No, asking the same question over and over again is a way to get banned
[05:06] <fletch33> now what
[05:06] <fletch33> k
[05:06] <fletch33>  i will try the download again
[05:06] <nickrud> fletch33, yes
[05:06] <ohmannnnn> dooglus, does that mean im not allowed to tell ubotu anything, and get banned right away ?
[05:07] <GigaClon> ohmannnnn, Seveas banned you ask them
[05:07] <gteppel> I just installed Breezy and have no sound!, i went to Volume Control and changed the sound device from my mobo to my SB Live 5.1 but I still don't have sound. Any ideas??
[05:07] <durt> necator, ive used bloodshed too and geany is somewhat similar, and a couple months
[05:08] <rob1> ohmannnnn, I would say for spamming
[05:08] <necator> durt did you have bloodshed running under linux or is that y now u have geany for linux? how long have u been programming in c++? or programming in general?
[05:08] <rob1> ohmannnnn, as it is your breaking the rules just by avoiding the ban
[05:09] <dooglus> looks like you were banned for playing with the bot.  I don't know the rules.  but:
[05:09] <dooglus> !botabuse
[05:09] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[05:09] <ohmannnnn> well, i was spamming max 3lines, and i saw someone spamming 5lines before and he dodnt get banned
[05:09] <ohmannnnn> !botabuse
[05:09] <durt> necator, i dont do c++, just random stuff in c - but you can use whatever ide/editor you want
[05:09] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, ubotu is for keeping factoids about ubuntu, not trivial things on the net.
[05:10] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: And not marketing
[05:10] <durt> !start a jihad
[05:10] <ubotu> durt: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:10] <necator> durt well im new to linux just trying to bring my stuff over from windows into the linux world so im trying to find equivelants to what i use on win.
[05:11] <ohmannnnn> hmm, i just told ubotu about demoscene.tv and then tried (3times) to open that directly to me with !tell... and still, NOONE said me i got banned...
[05:11] <durt> necator, well then try geany and scite
[05:12] <Lord2k> What should my partition be? Ext2 or Ext3?
[05:12] <b1n0ry> it worked, installed fine, runs fine, now i just have to learn to use it
[05:12] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: Why do you care that someone got banned for spamming ubotu? was it you on a different ip
[05:12] <prax> hola
[05:12] <prax> buenas noches
[05:12] <durt> hasta la vista
[05:12] <necator> durt is there something bad with adjuta? or are geany and scite just better?
[05:12] <prax> hola durt
[05:13] <prax> durt?
[05:13] <durt> no speakee espanol
[05:13] <prax> no?
[05:13] <ohmannnnn> SEJeff, no it was me with my main userid, that i registered after someone said i should use /msg to talk with ubotu..
[05:13] <crimsun> Lord2k: ext3 will suit you better unless you have a strictly defined reason for wanting ext2
[05:13] <echostorm> hi im having a problem with ubuntu install. no matter what screen resolution i pick when install hits the gnome portion (loading) of ubuntu I get a garbled sceen of whites and pink ascii charactors. Im running a evga geforce 6200 256mb gfx card with a sempron 3100+ palmero core
[05:13] <nickrud> SEJeff, he got the gentle ban, only by name
[05:13] <cmcnamar> hey...
[05:14] <cmcnamar> i just installed realplayer and am playing mp3's
[05:14] <prax> hola sala,
[05:14] <cmcnamar> thanks to everyone who helped me.
[05:14] <prax> esta es mi primera vez en esta sala
[05:14] <prax> de hecho, estoy probando un cd
[05:14] <prax> de ubuntu
[05:14] <echostorm> my cd is an official release btw so i know its not a corruption issue
[05:14] <nickrud> a man who likes to be legal :)
[05:14] <durt> scite and geany are nice and quick and simple
[05:14] <Lord2k> Alright, thanks crimsun. I don't really have a reason, I'm just doing the partition manually since my burner is not available at the moment.
[05:14] <ohmannnnn> im just pissed off that i got banned (like automaticly) and it wasnt even the bot that banned me, he/she could atleas give a reaseon/warning...
[05:15] <durt> !es
[05:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:15] <DShepherd> ohmannnnn: neva mind that man...your still loved.....hopefully :)
[05:15] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: Well you should take that up with an op
[05:15] <DShepherd> ohmannnnn: so you got a question about ubuntu?:)
[05:16] <nickrud> lol
[05:16] <echostorm> can anyone help with this issue or point me in the right direction? i see nothing on the forums concerning this
[05:16] <ohmannnnn> actually i was here to help other ubuntu noobs...
[05:16] <DShepherd> ohmannnnn: or would you like to go to #ubuntu-offtopic and talk about chess :)
[05:16] <prax> #ubuntu-es
[05:16] <DShepherd> ohmannnnn: kool so are all of us also...KOOL! :)
[05:16] <prax> hey ubotu.
[05:17] <prax> como le hago?
[05:17] <ohmannnnn> and i still dont know where to look why and who banned "oskude"...
[05:17] <SEJeff> prax: /j #ubuntu-es
[05:17] <fletch33> yo nectar
[05:17] <dooglus> ohmannnnn: I showed you.  It was Seveas
[05:17] <nickrud> dooglus 02:30 < oskude> ubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv
[05:17] <nickrud> dooglus 02:31 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b %oskude!*@*]  by Seveas
[05:17] <ohmannnnn> is Seveas a bot ?
[05:17] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: no
[05:18] <Madpilot> ohmannnnn: ping Seveas, ask him how you earned the ban, and stop whining about it...
[05:18] <ohmannnnn> or i just forget my support efforts for ubuntu and leave ur all alone...
[05:19] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, Seveas teaches geeks, and get over it. He didn't kick your ip, just your nick
[05:19] <gpled> has anyone had trouble with printers under ubuntu?
[05:19] <dooglus> ohmannnnn: I got banned from #mandrake a while back.  I left them to it as a matter of principal and came here instead.
[05:19] <nickrud> gpled, lol, oh yeah
[05:19] <durt> im banned from #slackware
[05:19] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, didnt see Seveas teach me before banning :)
[05:20] <nickrud> I'm done
[05:20] <nelson> Oh, great, #ubuntu attracts people who have been banned elsewhere.
[05:20] <nickrud> yeah, but they behave here cuz it's so much better
[05:20] <gteppel> has anybody had trouble getting their SB Live 5.1 working with breezy? I can't see to find any help on the forums
[05:21] <nickrud> gpled, what kind of printer problems?
[05:21] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: Have you tried talking to an op when they are around?
[05:21] <gpled> nickrud: hp laserjet 5L.  used to work.  works on windows.  but not on my new ubuntu :(
[05:22] <slew> how do i get ubuntu to show me its uptime?
[05:22] <ohmannnnn> SEJeff, well, after my (oskude) there has be no op online...
[05:22] <crimsun> ohmannnnn: it's very simple. Don't talk about anything vaguely related to warez, even if it's not clear it's not warez or otherwise.
[05:22] <ohmannnnn> crimsun, warez ?! how do you come to that i talked about warez ?
[05:22] <gpled> slew:  uptime
[05:22] <nelson> nickrud: hehe.
[05:22] <slew> heh figured
[05:22] <Madpilot> ohmannnnn: there are several ops here - they're just not op'd in...
[05:23] <nelson> Madpilot: that's what we do over on #handhelds.org.  Stealth ops.  You have to be polite to everyone.  Works a charm.
[05:23] <echostorm> nobody has an idea on this install problem? damn I really wanted to run ubuntu :(
[05:23] <nickrud> gpled, I'm hoping someone else knows the answer :)
[05:23] <Madpilot> actually, Seveas is...
[05:23] <crimsun> ohmannnnn: 'scene' is a common string for it. Even if whoever banned you doesn't know the particular circumstances about what the demos really are, it's suspicious enough.
[05:23] <tryingsomething> does the soundbloweruper xifi work on ubuntu?
[05:24] <Madpilot> nelson: I think Freenode encourages stealth oping - other channels to it too
[05:24] <crimsun> ohmannnnn: in other words, it's best to be explicit about it
[05:24] <ohmannnnn> lol, demoscene = warez ?! OMG
[05:24] <nickrud> and here I thought it was the egalitarian attitude :)
[05:24] <crimsun> ohmannnnn: I didn't say it is warez, because I'm familiar with it. However, whoever banned you might not be.
[05:24] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: rules are rules, play by them or not
[05:24] <DShepherd> THE END
[05:25] <ohmannnnn> where do i get the rules of this room ?
[05:25] <Madpilot> !conduct
[05:25] <nickrud> !conduct
[05:25] <ubotu> conduct is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[05:25] <Madpilot> ohmannnnn: there ^^^
[05:25] <ohmannnnn> didnt found "scene" there...
[05:25] <rob1> ohmannnnn, no one cares
[05:25] <dnB> can someone remind me how to restart a program using inet.d?
[05:25] <ohmannnnn> yeah, right
[05:26] <dnB> :P
[05:26] <nelson> dnB: it's program-dependent.
[05:26] <MagicFab> dnB: /etc/init.d/xxxxxxxx start
[05:26] <nelson> dnB: but generally you can say /etc/init.d/foobar stop
[05:26] <thrice`> restart
[05:26] <gpled> dnB: which program?
[05:26] <nelson> dnB: followed by start.
[05:26] <dnB> thanks guys
[05:26] <dnB> all i needed to know
[05:26] <SEJeff> nelson: no, he said inet.d. That is xinetd
[05:26] <dnB> :)
[05:26] <nelson> dnB: some init.d scripts let you say "restart"
[05:26] <dnB> ill try restart, otherwise stop start
[05:27] <ohmannnnn> and how do i now remove my "demoscene" addition form "ubotu" ?
[05:27] <crimsun> ohmannnnn: the ban was due to a misinformed string. Can we get beyond that?
[05:27] <gpled> nickrud: are you having printer trouble too?
[05:27] <nelson> SEJeff: er ... um ... uh, yeah!
[05:27] <ohmannnnn> i just want "oskude" get "unbanned"
[05:27] <nickrud> gpled, yeah, pdf's freeze my printer, and I have problems with landscape/portrait in openoffice
[05:27] <Madpilot> ohmannnnn: your ubotu factiod seems to already be gone
[05:28] <nickrud> a cheap hp psc
[05:28] <ohmannnnn> Madpilot, roger
[05:28] <SEJeff> nelson, nevermind, I'm thinking of rhel
[05:28] <dnB> thanks guys
[05:28] <dnB> perfect
[05:28] <dnB> <3
[05:28] <ohmannnnn> Madpilot, btw. it was "demoscene.tv"
[05:28] <ohmannnnn> thnx crimsun :)
[05:28] <nelson> SEJeff: *is* there such a thing as inet.d??  /me confesses that his Ubuntu box is not up right now.
[05:29] <Madpilot> ohmannnnn: it's gone. /msg ubotu list to see what it knows
[05:29] <oskude> hello world :)
[05:29] <MagicFab> oskude: hey
[05:29] <oskude> thnx crimsun !
[05:30] <oskude> was my ban because of "demoscene.tv" or too much use of "ubotu" ?
[05:30] <SEJeff> nelson: If you have xinetd installed, /etc/xinetd.d is a valid directory containing xinetd scripts for services like ntp
[05:30] <nickrud> nelson, no, inet.d doesn't exist
[05:30] <SEJeff> nelson: I was wrong
[05:30] <Madpilot> oskude: "/msg ubotu list" to see what it knows, btw...
[05:30] <prax> hola, hola,
[05:31] <prax> alguien que me pueda orientar?
[05:31] <nelson> Ahhhh, yes, Fedora uses xinetd and it has /etc/xinetd.d.
[05:31] <oskude> Madpilot, thnx
[05:31] <ian> If I rebuild my Breezy box with a TV tuner card installed will the installation process automatically detect and cofigure the card? Or will I still have to manually install the drivers when the build completes?
[05:31] <crimsun> ian: just insert the card, power the machine back up, and use it.
[05:32] <trappist> sort of depends on the card
[05:32] <nelson> ian: i'm sure that's the goal.  Whether it works or not is probably dependent upon which board it is.
[05:32] <prax> hey crimsun
[05:32] <ian> crimsun: if only it was that easy...
[05:32] <SEJeff> !info vsecurity
[05:32] <trappist> if it's a bttv chipset it should work fine
[05:32] <trappist> if it's a newer ivtv it'll take some work
[05:32] <crimsun> ian: sure, which is why there is a bug reporting facility if it isn't
[05:32] <iceman> I need help changing my Video card from the onboard to a add on card ...
[05:32] <oskude> im still interested on WHY i got banned...
[05:32] <prax> toc, toc, toc, hay alguien en casa?
[05:33] <rob1> oskude, let it o
[05:33] <nelson> WWJD? JWRTFM!      http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=&o_selected=&ids=03710&chk3710=1&action=Button%20Baggie     Ya gotta love Nancy's Buttons.
[05:33] <rob1> s/o/go
[05:33] <crimsun> oskude: for the last time, he probably confused the string "scene" with that -other- scene.
[05:33] <ian> crimsun, is it a  bug if it doesnt work?
[05:33] <SEJeff> oskude: Well you are not any more. PLEASE stop whining abou tit
[05:33] <trappist> crimsun: if (for example) it's an ivtv card, it's not a matter of bugs.  there are licensing issues with the required firmware.
[05:33] <crimsun> ian: it can be
[05:33] <ian> crimsun, hmm.
[05:33] <iceman> Anyone able to help me change primary video cpntrollers in ubuntu
[05:34] <drcode> hi all
[05:34] <durt> watch the language there SEJeff ;)
[05:34] <drcode> sorry for asking again
[05:34] <ian> trappist, You have any experience with IVTV
[05:34] <crimsun> trappist: sure. That doesn't preclude filing a bug. We'll just close it with pertinent info attached if necessary.
[05:34] <trappist> yeah
[05:34] <drcode> where I can find upgrade info from hoary to breezy
[05:34] <crimsun> drcode: see the topic
[05:34] <nickrud> nelson, that's one I want to read :)
[05:34] <ian> trappist, What PVR card do you have?
[05:34] <trappist> crimsun: my point is not every card will work out of the box or will EVER work out of the box, through no fault of the developers
[05:35] <trappist> ian: 250
[05:35] <prax> crimsun, sabes de una sala hispana?
[05:35] <SEJeff> prax: /j #ubuntu-es
[05:35] <iceman> Dang it, Ubuntu has me stuck at 640x480 resolution .... on the onboard card ...
[05:35] <crimsun> trappist: I'm well aware of that, though you seem to have misunderstood my original response, which was (paraphrased) "Just try it".
[05:35] <ian> trappist, You have MythTV up and running or just TvTime?
[05:35] <nelson> nickrud: Nancy has some excellent sysadmin-related buttons.  It's WAY too easy to buy several dozen.
[05:35] <prax> gracias. pero esta mas sola que mi alma
[05:35] <prax> otra?
[05:35] <crimsun> prax: no
[05:35] <trappist> crimsun: I guess I did.  my bad :)
[05:36] <oskude> i was advised to apologize (freenode), i did apologize for "abusing" ubotu, and who apologizes at me :) (yeah, i DONT have any rights here..)
[05:36] <trappist> ian: I don't use it anymore, but I did have mythtv running
[05:36] <pretzel> what do you think is the best partioning structure for a 40GB harddrive with both Win XP and Ubuntu?
[05:36] <fletch33> just wondering there are a way to many apps available on synaptic when u choose all is there any way to know what the cool ones are or can or should u pick them all
[05:36] <pretzel> *partitioning
[05:36] <trappist> pretzel: depends which you use more and for what
[05:36] <Madpilot> oskude: would you please just drop it?
[05:36] <ian> trappist, Im struggling with the IVTV setup...
[05:36] <pretzel> trappist, I'm a newbie
[05:36] <nelson> pretzel: 0% for Windows and 100% for Ubuntu?  :-)
[05:36] <trappist> pretzel: but keep in mind linux can read and write fat32 and windows can't touch linux partitions
[05:36] <pretzel> lol, I can't go cold turkey
[05:36] <iceman> wheres the x11.conf file located
[05:36] <pretzel> trappist, I realize that
[05:36] <trappist> ian: yeah it's not very straightforward
[05:36] <oskude> Madpilot, not until some1 apologize at me :)
[05:37] <ian> trappist, the forums are full of HowTo
[05:37] <ian> trappist, but they are all adifferent and none work for me.
[05:37] <Madpilot> oskude: or until you get yourself banned again for spamming the channel?
[05:37] <nelson> nickrud: You are in the presence of a system administrator.....KNEEL     http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=&o_selected=&ids=02902&chk2902=1&action=Button%20Baggie
[05:37] <nickrud> If it doesn't work, change the documentation <---
[05:37] <oskude> Mabus06, lol
[05:37] <nelson> hehe.
[05:37] <axisys> anyone know of a live radio and a good app to use to listen to it?
[05:37] <bob832> asked this question earlier, was wondering if anyone had any thoughts. . . .how can i change the keyboard volume buttons from changing master to PCM?
[05:37] <trappist> ian: where are you stuck?  I don't remember all the details of the process but we might get lucky
[05:37] <pretzel> should I have a seperate partition for linux?
[05:37] <nelson> I don't flirt with death. She runs up and sticks her tongue in my ear.
[05:38] <ian> trappist, Firmware
[05:38] <iceman> how do i reconfigure my video from a onboard nvidia to a Installed nvidia ?
[05:38] <trappist> pretzel: you need to have a separate partition for linux.  just leave it blank and the installer will deal with it.
[05:38] <fletch33> anybody have any help for picking what packages i should choose in synaptic
[05:38] <fletch33> there are 1000's
[05:38] <pretzel> what min partition size do I need for it?
[05:38] <Amaranth> fletch33: for what?
[05:38] <nickrud> bob832, you'll probably need to disable the stuff in metacity, and use some other means: hotkeys, or the equiv
[05:38] <fletch33> ii dont know the cool 1's to get
[05:39] <trappist> ian: debian has an unofficial repository with packaged firmware.  not sure if ubuntu does, but the debian package will work.
[05:39] <nelson> iceman: you mean the boot video?
[05:39] <Amaranth> iceman: disable the onboard one in your bios
[05:39] <fletch33> where do i start
[05:39] <nelson> iceman: your BIOS ought to say "Gee, he put in a video card.  Maybe I'm supposed to use it."
[05:39] <iceman> Amaranth no bios setting i looked dang emachine
[05:39] <axisys> what is a good app to listen to live radio?
[05:39] <Amaranth> fletch33: generally you have an idea of something you want first
[05:39] <trappist> axisys: xmms
[05:39] <Amaranth> iceman: i'd hope it was smart enough to autodisable
[05:39] <nelson> iceman: but then again, I can't STOP my BIOS from doing that, so when I put in a video card, I end up with only one usable video card.
[05:40] <SEJeff> axisys: rhythmbox
[05:40] <trappist> axisys: or mplayer
[05:40] <nickrud> fletch33, try apt-cache search <keywords> , things that might interest you
[05:40] <oskude> axisys, and look in www.shoutcast.com
[05:40] <bob832> nickrud: i did change the volume controls in the task bar to change PCM but the keys still change master
[05:40] <fletch33> amatanth how do i highlight my comment and add your name in this xcaht
[05:40] <axisys> oskude: can i use xmms to listen to shoutcast?
[05:40] <oskude> axisys, yes
[05:40] <nickrud> fletch33, steamtuner, oskude made me think of that
[05:40] <fletch33> like how u just responded to me
[05:40] <nelson> Amaranth: actually, I think that's the wrong behavior.  I'd prefer to be able to use both onboard and video cards, and set one or the other as primary.
[05:40] <iceman> nelson ubuntu see's both, but pipes to the onboard
[05:40] <pretzel> Is it okay if I set it up this way: 5GB for windows, 5GB for linux, and the other 30 for data storage?
[05:40] <iceman> where the x11 configuration file
[05:40] <trappist> fletch33: any line with your nick in it gets hilighted
[05:40] <SEJeff> fletch33: If someone says your name, it highlights it
[05:40] <oskude> yes, streamtuner/streamripper is a good all-in-one thing
[05:41] <nelson> iceman: is X not setting you up with two X screens?
[05:41] <nelson> iceman: it *ought* to give you two screens.  It really ought to.  It should, anyway.
[05:41] <nickrud> bob832, it's at a lower level than that, I think. I did it for a different distro a while back, I haven't got around to setting it up again.
[05:41] <fletch33> how do i quicly say your name do i have to type it out
[05:41] <nelson> fletch33: type a few letters and hit tab.
[05:41] <iceman> nelson one x starts on the onboard... nothing on the second screen
[05:41] <fletch33> ne thnkas
[05:41] <iceman> plug in and blank
[05:41] <fletch33> it didnt work ther
[05:42] <fletch33> nelson, ooh got it
[05:42] <nickrud> fletch33, just type a few characters like 'nick' and hit the tab key, you can cycle through some names.
[05:42] <axisys> i am going to give vlc a try
[05:42] <nelson> iceman: is the monitor getting a signal?  Does it automagically turn itself on?
[05:42] <axisys> my firefox automatically detected that for shoutcast
[05:42] <fletch33> ok so i didnt see it in a different color did u
[05:42] <nelson> iceman: because it it's turning itself on, then the video card is actually working, it's just displaying all black.
[05:42] <Sourceror> I want to print something in Linux.  I've plugged the printer into my motherboard, and it's powered.  So what else do I do?
[05:43] <trappist> fletch33: your irc client does the hilighting, not the server.  it's to let you know someone's talking to you.
[05:43] <iceman> If i plug in to the installed card i get a vid signal, no screen display
[05:43] <Amaranth> fletch33: When I say your name it shows in a different color for just you. It's the same if someone says my name.
[05:43] <fletch33> or does just nelson see
[05:43] <fletch33> that is cool
[05:43] <Amaranth> fletch33: It's to make it easier for you to follow who is talking to you in a large channel (like this one).
[05:43] <fletch33> thanks
[05:43] <pavelich> anyone here familiar with eclipse
[05:43] <nelson> fletch33: any colors you're seeing are entirely in your irc client.
[05:43] <fletch33> big time very nice
[05:43] <ilba7r> any one know if toshiba qosmio (25 us /20 the rest of the world) have good support or not on ubuntu
[05:43] <oskude> Sourceror, what port (usb, parallel) is your printer using ?
[05:43] <Amaranth> fletch33: So if you're talking to someone here it's usually a good idea to put they name in front of the line like I'm doing here. Otherwise they might miss it.
[05:43] <fletch33> i am usind xchat is that the best to use on ubu
[05:43] <nelson> fletch33: what's nice?  tab completion??  Yes, tab completion is teh rock.
[05:44] <Amaranth> err, their name
[05:44] <fletch33> k thanks
[05:44] <Amaranth> xchat is the best GUI irc client
[05:44] <Sourceror> It's a big one.  Parallel?
[05:44] <pavelich> anyone here familiar with ECLIPSE and creating c++ project, or what binary parsers are
[05:44] <Amaranth> err, i broke my own rule
[05:44] <DShepherd> gaim is nice too
[05:44] <Amaranth> pavelich: Nope, sorry.
[05:44] <fletch33> nelson, yeah it helps to know u r talking ot me that is sweet
[05:44] <bob832> nickrud: oh ok
[05:44] <Amaranth> DShepherd: It's too general.
[05:44] <DShepherd> Amaranth: general is good
[05:44] <nelson> Animal testing is a terrible idea--they get all nervous and give the wrong answers
[05:45] <iceman> damit how to change video controlers
[05:45] <fletch33> nelson, ha!
[05:45] <bnD> can anyone help me out with how to "iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[05:45] <bnD> " in ubuntu? trying to save iptables configuration
[05:45] <fletch33> nelson,  ooh yeah im in the game now
[05:45] <trappist> bnD: that's all there is to it
[05:46] <nelson> fletch33: yep, there ya go.  Try tab completion of filenames in the shell as well.
[05:46] <nickrud> bob832, yeah, it sucks here too
[05:46] <trappist> bnD: well, you'll need sudo
[05:46] <bnD> trappist, didnt work
[05:46] <bnD> perhaps wrong location for iptables
[05:46] <fletch33> nelson,  what is that
[05:46] <SEJeff> bnD: /etc/sysconfig is a redhat directory
[05:46] <bob832> nickrud:  i was looking through some of the files in /proc/asound but had no luck
[05:46] <bnD> SEJeff, ah ok
[05:46] <bnD> ;)
[05:46] <nelson> fletch33: command line.  "In The Beginning, There Was The Command Line."
[05:46] <trappist> bnD: you can put it anywhere you like (that exists) as long as you restore from the same place
[05:46] <fletch33> nelson,  what i sthe shell
[05:46] <DShepherd> fletch33: gaim is good too...with guificattions.........it rocks!!!
[05:46] <bnD> anyone know where iptables is located?
[05:46] <prax> somebody speak spanish?
[05:47] <trappist> bnD: `which iptables`
[05:47] <bnD> trappist, ?
[05:47] <nickrud> bob832, ask again later, there are people here who know sound backwards and forwards
[05:47] <trappist> bnD: run that command
[05:47] <nelson> fletch33: when you run System Tools/Terminal, you get a shell.
[05:47] <bnD> ah, thanks
[05:47] <fletch33> nelson,  ooh i have that and use it for my instant messenger so i should us ethat for this 2
[05:47] <bob832> nickrud: alright, thanks
[05:47] <bnD> wpw
[05:47] <bnD> wpw
[05:47] <nelson> prax: no hablo espaol.
[05:47] <bnD> wow* sorry
[05:47] <bnD> permission denied
[05:47] <bnD> with sudo
[05:47] <bnD> ?
[05:47] <trappist> bnD: sudo
[05:47] <fletch33> nelson, i havent gotten that far yet
[05:48] <bnD> trappist, brandon@edubuntu:~$ sudo iptables-save > /sbin/iptables
[05:48] <bnD> bash: /sbin/iptables: Permission denied
[05:48] <bnD> brandon@edubuntu:~$
[05:48] <fletch33> nelson, lol
[05:48] <iceman> Anything i can do to set the second video card to work
[05:48] <trappist> bnD: don't do that!  you're trying to overwrite iptables itself.  put it somewhere else, like maybe root's home directory or /etc or something
[05:48] <nelson> fletch33: there's a world of pleasure at the command line.  Much power available to you.
[05:48] <bnD> trappist
[05:49] <bnD> how do i save the configuration?
[05:49] <nelson> fletch33: the trouble with the command line is that you have to remember what you want to do.
[05:49] <prax> nelson: do you know some chat to spanish?
[05:49] <fletch33> nelson,  i just started to use this 2 dayz ago and this is my first try at linux and to be honest i am very  very frustrated
[05:49] <trappist> bnD: iptables-save > /etc/myrules for example
[05:49] <bnD> ok
[05:49] <bnD> and would that autoload?
[05:49] <nelson> prax: yo tengo nunca palabras.