[03:50] <hhhjr_> ok I thiink I need to learn more but the doc I have about installing the drivers does not state anything about configure
[03:50] <niksoron> eth1 link ethernet hwaddr 00:60..j0
[03:50] <psynaps3> variant: i need something simple. This is for my sister's college use. She is having a bit of difficulty with Vi
[03:50] <jstarcher> variant: I got the live cd in and its booted to GNOME. i switched to my axim as well so i can be in front of the computer and talk to u at the same time.
[03:50] <niksoron> inet addr <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:50] <niksoron> rx pkts 0
[03:50] <afflux> morgen
[03:50] <niksoron> tx pkts 0
[03:50] <niksoron> rx bytes 0
[03:50] <variant> jstarcher: what was your problem again?
[03:50] <CarinArr> in pastebin..
[03:50] <niksoron> interrupt 3 bae addr 0x100
[03:50] <niksoron> that's it for eth1
[03:51] <CarinArr> no broadcast?
[03:51] <CarinArr> no network mask?
[03:51] <variant> jstarcher: i remember, grub right?
[03:51] <niksoron> bcast <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:51] <jstarcher> variant, im installing GRUB
[03:51] <jstarcher> YES
[03:51] <cyzie> CarinArr, provisioning of IP MUST come with netmask
[03:51] <cyzie> niksoron, is it eth1/0 up ?
[03:51] <variant> jstarcher: mount your ubuntu partition
[03:51] <afflux> hi all. does anybody of you have experiences with "Philips SPE3040CC" (3,5" external hdd, 400gb)? My shop says it is compatible with windows 2k and xp. What about linux?
[03:51] <niksoron> cyzie, yes, eth1 is up
[03:51] <niksoron> that's why it shows in ifconfig
[03:51] <variant> jstarcher: on /mnt
[03:52] <cyzie> niksoron, what about iwconfig ?
[03:52] <niksoron> what should "Security mode:" show for WEP128? mine shows open
[03:52] <niksoron> cyzie, yes, eth1 shows up in iwconfig
[03:52] <shriphani> guys can i find a page listing vendors who ship ubuntu edgy worldwide
[03:52] <niksoron> correct essid and AP mac address
[03:52] <variant> jstarcher: scratch that. you dont need to
[03:52] <cyzie> niksoron, so your driver shoudl isntalled correctly.
[03:52] <niksoron> link quality: 19/92
[03:53] <cyzie> niksoron, how do u connect to the AP ? using command line or GUI ?
[03:53] <niksoron> cyzie, ping
[03:53] <niksoron> i use ping
[03:53] <CarinArr> niksoron, mine says open and i'm using 128bit wep and it's working fine
[03:53] <cyzie> niksoron, u cant... u must connect ot the AP first THEN u ping
[03:53] <niksoron> CarinArr, cool
[03:53] <jstarcher> variant: i type sudo grub right?
[03:53] <niksoron> cyzie, what do you mean by "connect to the AP". i don't understand
[03:53] <feydin> hey there im trying to get beagle to run, but beagle does not index all of my files
[03:53] <CarinArr> cyzie, if the wireless point shows up in iwconfig he should be connected to it
[03:54] <feydin> is there any config i need to change for it?
[03:54] <cyzie> niksoron, if your AP has WEP128, then u need to provide password to connect to it
[03:54] <netpython> niksoron, acess point
[03:54] <variant> jstarcher: sudo grub-install hd0
[03:54] <netpython> +c
[03:54] <Chamber> i got an error while trying to manually edit the partition table
[03:54] <niksoron> cyzie, yes, i set the password in networking
[03:54] <Chamber> as in like, i can't resize it
[03:54] <Chamber> why is that so?
[03:54] <variant> Chamber: what were you doing to resize it?
[03:54] <cyzie> CarinArr, what make u said so ?
[03:54] <jstarcher> variant: what if ubuntu isnt on hd0?
[03:54] <niksoron> and i see it if i do iwconfig eth1. and look at Encryption key: xxxx-nnn...
[03:54] <variant> jstarcher: what disk is it on?
[03:55] <cyzie> niksoron, okay, just checking
[03:55] <Chamber> variant, i used gparted
[03:55] <Chamber> if that's what you mean
[03:55] <variant> jstarcher: whatever your boot disk is in the bios, that is where you want grub
[03:55] <jstarcher> variant: hda3 iirc
[03:55] <variant> jstarcher: hd0 then
[03:55] <niksoron> any suggestions?
[03:56] <jstarcher> variant: okay lemme give it a shot
[03:56] <cyzie> niksoron, the AP is DHCP where it assign IP to yoru laptop right ?
[03:56] <niksoron> cyzie, no DHCP. i said static ip
[03:57] <CarinArr> niksoron, not sure if it makes a difference but try setting the key manually without the dashes
[03:57] <jstarcher> variant: errored out. "could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device."
[03:57] <salim> where is testdisk in ubuntu
[03:57] <niksoron> CarinArr, ok, trying that now. iwconfig eth1 enc s:mypassword right?
[03:57] <variant> jstarcher: sorry, include --root-directory=/boot
[03:57] <CarinArr> iwconfig eth1 key xxxxxxx
[03:58] <niksoron> ok
[03:58] <datrite> hi all, some file on one of my partitions seems damaged but I cannot get it fixed or removed
[03:58] <variant> jstarcher: so the full command is: grub-install --root-directory=/boot hd0
[03:58] <h1st0> Is there any chat program that supports webcam and yahoo chatrooms?
[03:58] <CarinArr> niksoron, not sure about the ins and outs of iwconfig, but that works for me;)
[03:59] <gor1> hi there, got a small network probleme, if i detach the cable and reatach it the system recogniceses the connection but no other program do, is there anything to do about it?
[03:59] <niksoron> CarinArr, ok, just did it. can't ping
[03:59] <niksoron> ifconfig still rx/tx pkts=0
[04:00] <niksoron> ok, in dmesg it says, WEP supported, 104-bit key
[04:00] <niksoron> is that a problem?
[04:00] <jstarcher> variant: is this the same thing? http://tinyurl.com/jha3s "using the desktop/livecd and overwriting windows bootloader"
[04:00] <cyzie> niksoron, is your wireless card ipw2100 ?
[04:00] <niksoron> cyzie, no, it is orinoco_cs
[04:01] <CarinArr> niksoron, i don't use the networking tool cause it's messed up for me but all i need to do to connect is: sudo iwconfig eth1 key xxxxxx, sudo iwconfig eth1 essid xxxxxx, sudo dhclient3 eth1
[04:01] <variant> jstarcher: yes, but that wont work with the edgy cd, i dont know about hte dapper cd. did the command i told you fail?
[04:01] <CarinArr> last one because i'm using dhcp
[04:01] <niksoron> CarinArr, ok, will try that
[04:02] <CarinArr> i'm not sure how low a signal quality you can work with
[04:02] <jstarcher> variant: im on the dapper liveCD and my ubuntu install i have upgraded to edgy... i will try the command now
[04:02] <CarinArr> my link quality says 100/100
[04:02] <Chamber> the english on partitioning options is a bit confusing for me
[04:02] <Chamber> i'm not sure what "Free Space Following" means
[04:02] <niksoron> CarinArr, mine says 43/92
[04:02] <Chamber> is that the space for installtion?
[04:02] <CarinArr> at home it goes down as far as 45/100
[04:02] <niksoron> but it changes from time to time
[04:03] <gor1> hi there, got a small network probleme, if i detach the cable and reatach it the system recogniceses the connection but no other program do, is there anything to do about it?
[04:03] <variant> gor1: try using network-monitor-gnome
[04:03] <variant> gor1: apt-get install it
[04:04] <niksoron> if i put it higher up, i get 76/92
[04:04] <variant> gor1: network-manager-gnome i mean
[04:04] <variant> gor1: not monitor
[04:04] <jstarcher> variant: just ran that command and got the same error about not finding a device
[04:05] <netpython> !ifplugd
[04:05] <ubotu> ifplugd: A configuration daemon for ethernet devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.28-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 280 kB
[04:05] <iturk> there is a package called dblatex i dont have it in my apt-cache !! i know that its placed in the universe from this site http://ftp.litnet.lt/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/d/dblatex/ !! Is it in dapper ?? if not how can i know in which distribution of ubuntu ??
[04:05] <J-_> What can I use to view an online book? ex. the diveintopython book I downloaded from the repos
[04:05] <niksoron> is there a command to scan for other ap-s? to search for an open one without WEP
[04:06] <gor1> variant: after that
[04:06] <niksoron> i tried apt-get install iwscan but there's no iwscan
[04:06] <jstarcher> variant: dont i need to put like hd0,6 or something like that?
[04:07] <lupine_85> iwlist M<interface> scan
[04:07] <lupine_85> erm, -M
[04:07] <CarinArr> niksoron, it's "iwlist interface scan"
[04:07] <netpython> !dblatex | iturk
[04:07] <ubotu> dblatex: Produces DVI, PostScript, PDF documents from DocBook sources. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.9-3 (edgy), package size 534 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[04:07] <CarinArr> meh too slow
[04:08] <niksoron> eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning : network is down
[04:08] <jrib> J-_: your web browser, point it to /usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html
[04:08] <niksoron> i did an ifconfig eth1 down
[04:08] <iturk> netpython: since i am using dapper is it possible to install it without having to make an upgrade to edgy ??
[04:08] <wwweasel> I'd like to change the file association of the Audio CD that appears on my Desktop, so that it doesn't open with sound-juicer.  How?!
[04:08] <jrib> wwweasel: system > preferences > removable drives and media
[04:08] <lupine_85> !info dblatex dapper
[04:08] <hangfire> j-_ , what format is the book?
[04:08] <ubotu> Package dblatex does not exist in dapper
[04:08] <lupine_85> nope
[04:08] <wwweasel> jrib: that's for auto-opening on entry
[04:09] <lupine_85> different libc versions so attempting to install the package from edgy could be... painful
[04:09] <niksoron> what should Mode: be? mine says Managed
[04:09] <netpython> iturk, i think dapper has the package too,so you don't have to upgrade
[04:09] <CarinArr> niksoron, put it back up then;)
[04:09] <jrib> wwweasel: true... hmmm can you right click, then click on "properties", then go to the "open with" tab?
[04:09] <netpython> http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[04:09] <phaedrus44> what is the command to give everyone access to x server?
[04:09] <CarinArr> niksoron, all mine are managed
[04:09] <wwweasel> jrib: Tried that too. "Open With" doesn't exist for Audio CDs.
[04:09] <niksoron> ok
[04:09] <ogionnj> phaedrus44: xhost +
[04:09] <iturk> ubotu: can i installed like using deb-src someone told me about that its possible that i can add edgy there !! is there any documentation explain how to do it ??
[04:10] <iturk> netpython: it doesnt exists in dapper
[04:10] <wwweasel> iturk: What package are you wanting? Firefox 2?
[04:10] <niksoron> when i uped ifconfig eth1, iwlist eth1 scan says ...doesn't support scanning : Input/Output error
[04:10] <iturk> wwweasel: its dblatex :|
[04:10] <netpython> it's in universe
[04:11] <iturk> netpython: i have universe active in dapper !!
[04:11] <wwweasel> iturk: Ah, so not as straightforward. You could build it from source
[04:11] <phaedrus44> ogionnj:  thanks
[04:12] <iturk> wwweasel: instead of that isnt possible to add take it using deb-src from sources.list ??
[04:12] <ogionnj> Can anyone help me with sound issues?  Sound skips and voices sound like chipmunks.  All players.  (Edgy)
[04:12] <netpython> iturk, wwweasel is right you could compile dblatex from source,it's pretty straightforward
[04:13] <wwweasel> iturk: It is. I know it's possible as someone guided me through it once, I just don't know how.
[04:13] <iturk> netpython: i understand i can download the tar.gz and installed but i prefer to have it has a apt package easy to uninstall
[04:13] <wwweasel> jrib: Any ideas on the Audio CD thing?
[04:13] <wwweasel> iturk: Check out "checkinstall"
[04:13] <netpython> iturk, true
, do you know where the diveintopython book is located in the file structure? I want to check it out myself
[04:14] <wwweasel> iturk: I build debs of all the things I build from source using checkinstall.
[04:14] <jrib> wwweasel: no but I have a cd in now and am looking
[04:14] <wwweasel> jrib: Thanks :) These things really should be more straightforward...
[04:15] <iturk> wwweasel: i see checkinstall its usefull
[04:16] <niksoron> time to call it quits. thanks for trying to help
[04:16] <jrib> wwweasel: gconf-editor >  /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/cdda/command
[04:16] <jstarcher> variant: you around?
[04:16] <iturk> wwweasel: a joke !! if i install checkinstall from source how can i uninstall it !! :P
[04:16] <jrib> wwweasel: I don't know if there is an actual interface for that somewhere in the gui...
[04:16] <wwweasel> iturk: lol :D
[04:17] <wwweasel> jrib: It doesn't seem so. Certainly not in an obvious enough place. But thanks so much
[04:17] <freeze> whats the command to update to edgy?
[04:17] <wwweasel> iturk: I think I found out how to do it using the deb-src
[04:18] <wwweasel> iturk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268687
[04:18] <v3dy> ghjk
[04:19] <netpython> apt-get install build-essentiall fakeroot ,apt-get build-dep dblatex,fakeroot apt-get source -b dblatex, dpkg -i <dblatex.....deb>
[04:19] <iturk> wwweasel: yep that really what i want thanks !!
[04:20] <jstarcher> what does "fsck died with exit status 8" mean?
[04:21] <iturk> wwweasel: by the way they give an example using feisty distribution is it experimental (??) or something i just know dapper and edgy !!
[04:21] <jrib> !upgrade | freeze
[04:21] <ubotu> freeze: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[04:22] <niksoron> is orinico_cs known to work properly in edgy?
[04:22] <DocLenei> Hey there
[04:22] <niksoron> orinoco_cs
[04:22] <rpedro> jstarcher: google it :-)
[04:23] <wwweasel> iturk: Nope, just use Edgy, not Feisty
[04:23] <incorrect> im trying out bacula,  all seems good just i would like a web interface so users can restore files
[04:23] <jstarcher> argh i hate opera. why cant they give it out for free :-(
[04:23] <noviac> Hmm, can anyone tell me why ubuntu (during installation) forces my screen out_of_sync? I mean, whats the point forcing 143hz in VGA-mode, or even 265hz in 1280x1024. Even what's named as "Safe graphic mode" seems to be on top of my low-performance monitor. Ubuntu desktop 6.10 CD-image, if that enlighten somebody.
[04:24] <Glock9> old computer?
[04:25] <noviac> not really
[04:25] <Glock9> old monitor?
[04:25] <skript> what wifi pci card would you suggest for dapper ? which has the best ease of install/kernel drivers support ?
[04:25] <jstarcher> wtf i cant boot anymore :(
[04:25] <noviac> amd xp 3200 512 19" monitor @ 1280x1024 (100hz)
[04:25] <noviac> samsung syncmaster 19"  959nf
[04:26] <wwweasel> skript: Many/most will work with a bit of tweaking, not too hard.
[04:26] <Glock9> Use Ndiswrapper
[04:26] <Glock9> skript
[04:26] <gor1> variant tryed the networkmanager, but seems not to work either
[04:26] <wwweasel> skript; I can't think of one that hasn't required a bit of tweaking for me.
[04:26] <variant> Glock9: it would be better to advise him to get one that will work out of the box rather than one that wont
[04:27] <variant> skript: avoid ndiswrapper requireing cards at all cost, it's much better to get a fully supported one
[04:27] <wwweasel> variant: What do you have against ndiswrapper?
[04:27] <jstarcher> what is all this crap in fstab edgy put in there? UUID and stuff
[04:28] <variant> wwweasel: nothing, but when advising on what card to buy its best to advise against one that requires proprietry windows drivers
[04:28] <variant> jstarcher: it is sysfs/udev stuff
[04:28] <erUSUL> jstarcher: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[04:28] <wwweasel> variant: makes sense
[04:28] <variant> jstarcher: you can take it out or use it
[04:28] <skript> variant: so... which chipsets are 'fully' supported then ? is there a list maybe somewhere ;) ?
[04:28] <jstarcher> ic
[04:29] <gor1> variant: tryed the networkmanager, but seems not to work either
[04:29] <variant> skript: this is some good information: http://users.linpro.no/janl/hardware/wifi.html
[04:29] <snowshoefox> how do  I get java to work in firefox so i can login into TopCoder?
[04:29] <erUSUL> jstarcher: it have been made in preparation for the switch to the new, libata based, pata drivers of the linux kernel
[04:29] <snowshoefox> !java
[04:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:29] <skript> varinat: wow! thanks for the link !!
[04:29] <der0b> erusul: if I did a ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ while a certain usb device is installed, I could get the UUID and set up a permanent mount for that device in fstab?
[04:30] <variant> skript: no problem, skript in irc type var and press the tab key
[04:30] <variant> der0b: correct
[04:30] <der0b> neato keen
[04:30] <SonikBoom> gah.
[04:30] <der0b> thanks :)
[04:30] <SonikBoom> i have a noobish problem.
[04:30] <variant> der0b: there are alternatives to the uuid too, like the device name
[04:31] <erUSUL> der0b: hotplug devices are better handled by udev+pmount imho
[04:31] <skript> variant: heh... var+tab... seems to work ;)
[04:31] <jstarcher> if i want to check a jfs partition what do i change thos numbers to in fstab so it will run a ckeck on boot? something like 0 2 if i recall
[04:31] <variant> skript: yep :)
[04:31] <SonikBoom> why is it that i can only get my resolution on my lcd up to 800x600 on the livecd of edgy eft?
[04:32] <sizzam> i'm using the default kernel in edgy (generic), i'm trying to install VMWare Workstation, and it needs to know "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?"
[04:32] <variant> jstarcher: i dont rememebr the exact digits but check man fstab
[04:32] <linuxnewb> is it posible to burn a cd from the terminal?  I killed my GUI trying to install XGL. :(
[04:32] <skript> variant:off to some background wi-fi reading then... thanks again :)
[04:32] <jbroome> linuxnewb: cdrecord -dao -eject -data <isofile>
[04:33] <linuxnewb> jbroome thanks, I'll give it a try.
[04:33] <Schalken> how can i renew my IP in linux???
[04:34] <jstarcher>  variant:yep, i nailed it :P 0 2
[04:34] <noviac> ifconfig <interface> down, then ifconfig <interface> up.. if ur sitting localy
[04:34] <erUSUL> Schalken: sudo ifdown <iface> && sudo ifup <iface>
[04:35] <Schalken> erUSUL: whats ?
[04:35] <Glock9> I
[04:35] <ubuntu> mastermind has joined in
[04:36] <Glock9> oops sry
[04:36] <snowshoefox> zomgor, installing java once took me 2 hours on slackware 8.2
[04:36] <snowshoefox> this has become too easy
[04:36] <ubuto> how do i put the "My Computer" icon in the desktop
[04:36] <ubuntu> exit
[04:37] <sizzam> i installed linux-k7 and rebooted, but when i come back up, uname -r still = '2.6.17-10-386'
[04:37] <ubuto> does anyone know
[04:37] <sizzam> how do i get it to boot into the k7 kernel?
[04:37] <jbroome> ubuto: i don't think linux has a 'my computer' icon
[04:37] <jstarcher> variant: well im all back up and running! thank you very much!
[04:37] <StephenL> i have a usb bluetooth adapter...how can I get this to work in ubuntu?
[04:38] <tat> StephenL: plug it in? ;)
[04:38] <StephenL> heh...yeah tried that but my phone isn't seeing it
[04:38] <TheReconHunter> Hey. I am currently trying to move a fat32 partition, however, gparted insists on first doing a disk check, and no matter how long i wait, it doesnt seem to move past this step. Any idea why>
[04:38] <ubuto> jbroome, ive seen it in loads of desktops
[04:38] <ubuto> maybe its another name
[04:39] <jbroome> ubuto: you can get a shortcut to /home/ubunto and change the label to my computer if you'd like
[04:39] <cappicrd> hello
[04:39] <SonikBoom> ubuto: go to places ---> then drag the computer icon to the desktop
[04:39] <TheReconHunter> any idea whats wrong?
[04:40] <TheReconHunter> anyone?
[04:40] <snowshoefox> where's the link to become involved with ubuntu?
, you still here? I found how to open the diveintopython book
[04:40] <snowshoefox> !ubunty
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubunty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <snowshoefox> !ubuntu
[04:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:40] <cappicrd> you tell me
[04:40] <ptr> hi, what my cause that apt-get don't refreash package database from all repos ?
[04:40] <snowshoefox> !ubounty
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubounty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <jbroome> ubooty!
[04:41] <linuxnewb> jbroome thanks for the info on CDrecord.  I'm trying to backup some file on my hdd to cd.   is this possible with cdrecord.  I'm running threw the man pages, but I'm still very new to this.
[04:41] <TheReconHunter> Hey. I am currently trying to move a fat32 partition, however, gparted insists on first doing a disk check, and no matter how long i wait, it doesnt seem to move past this step. Any idea why>
[04:42] <TheReconHunter> can someone pls help, this is getting quite annoying
[04:42] <StephenL> !bluetooth
[04:42] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:42] <TheReconHunter> just watching the bar move back and forth
[04:42] <abbyz> hello
[04:42] <raghu206> how to install theme for mplayer?
[04:42] <bowman> heya. anyone know where on the system I can define "open .doc with openoffice"?
[04:43] <variant> TheReconHunter: this is a problem with the old version of gparted that ships with ubuntu
[04:44] <variant> TheReconHunter: is this a live cd or you installed system your using?
[04:44] <TheReconHunter> this is an edgy live cd
[04:44] <TheReconHunter> i just got it, but when i had a similar problem wtih my dapper cd
[04:44] <variant> TheReconHunter: ok, thats a shame as i was going to sugest installing the upgraded version but you would have to compile it at the momment
[04:44] <TheReconHunter> :-(
[04:44] <TheReconHunter> so
[04:44] <variant> TheReconHunter: its like 10x better, supports more file systems and actualy can move, resize etc partitions
[04:45] <TheReconHunter> o0o
[04:45] <variant> TheReconHunter: use the commmand like parted
[04:45] <variant> TheReconHunter: it's not that hard as long as your carefull with what you type
[04:45] <TheReconHunter> hrm
[04:45] <variant> TheReconHunter: start with the man page "man parted"
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> bowman: right click on file, open with other application...
[04:46] <TheReconHunter> variant: rephase please, i dont quite understand
[04:46] <variant> fyrestrtr: how do you make that permanent?
[04:46] <grndslm> how can i reset nvram if i can't connect to the router...is it possible?
[04:46] <grndslm> oops...wrong channel
[04:47] <variant> TheReconHunter: there is a command called parted, gparted is just a graphical interface to this command. you can run parted by opening a command prompt and entering the command with the correct options. the first thing you should do is type "man parted" and learn the basics of using it. it wont take long
[04:47] <TheReconHunter> oh, i see
[04:47] <TheReconHunter> well
[04:47] <TheReconHunter> i got a package from the internet
[04:47] <TheReconHunter> for the latest build of gparted
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> variant: I think gconf-editor can do that.
[04:47] <TheReconHunter> can i install/use that?
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> TheReconHunter:  if its a .deb for ubuntu, then yes. Just install it :)
[04:48] <TheReconHunter> its a tar.gz
[04:48] <TheReconHunter> and im on livecd
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> then its source, and you must compile it. However, the livecd has gparted on it.
[04:48] <TheReconHunter> but the livecd im currently using
[04:48] <albacker> hey what do i need to play .wma ?
[04:48] <TheReconHunter> wont let me do much to teh hard drive
[04:49] <fyrestrtr> albacker: windows codecs from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:49] <albacker> thanks fyrestrtr
[04:49] <fyrestrtr> TheReconHunter: what do you want to do with it?
[04:49] <TheReconHunter> well, how would i compile gparted?
[04:49] <TheReconHunter> fyrestrtr- i want to move a fat 32 partition
[04:49] <fyrestrtr> TheReconHunter: you can't compile if you are on the livecd.
[04:49] <variant> TheReconHunter: if you have a lot of ram you can installl a corresponding amount of software on the live environment (minus the space used by the live cd)
[04:49] <TheReconHunter> howevr
[04:49] <albacker> fyrestrtr, it doesnt talk about .wma ther !
[04:49] <TheReconHunter> ive got 2 gigs of ram
[04:49] <fyrestrtr> albacker: you need the w32codecs package, that includes wma.
[04:50] <variant> fyrestrtr: you can
[04:50] <netpython> albacker, http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[04:50] <TheReconHunter> so, how would i compile the tar.gz package?
[04:50] <albacker> fyrestrtr, thnx
[04:50] <bretzel> Hi there, is there a known glitch on beryl+ aiglx ? because I changed my Nvidia card from Gfx 6200 128mb to a Nvidia 7600GS 256MB and Beryl is slow, cpu angry ( yes - angry + hungry ) and there a regular lag in animations ( every  ~ 0.25sec ) ... With my previous edgy installation using gfx 6200 it was by far faster.. ( #ubuntu-xgl none respond to me :-( )
[04:50] <fyrestrtr> variant: I don't think the problem is getting solved by a new version of gparted.
[04:50] <variant> fyrestrtr: you just need enough free ram to install build-essential and the package being installed
[04:50] <netpython> TheReconHunter, first you have to unpack it:-0
[04:50] <variant> fyrestrtr: it would, as this is a known bug in the version of gparted that he is using
[04:50] <TheReconHunter> okay, then what
[04:51] <variant> TheReconHunter: do you have a lot of ram?
[04:51] <TheReconHunter> 2 gigs
[04:51] <netpython> TheReconHunter, Read the included README
[04:51] <variant> TheReconHunter: in that case your sorted
[04:51] <fyrestrtr> bretzel: beryl is beta software, so yes, there are plenty of 'known glitches'.
[04:51] <variant> TheReconHunter: in a command prompt type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:52] <bretzel> fyrestrtr: I know but why that now I have a better nvidia card, I am slower than the previous installation ?
[04:52] <TheReconHunter> alright variant. Now what?
[04:52] <arepie> how to hide icons on desktop?
[04:53] <TheReconHunter> do i select
[04:53] <TheReconHunter> create archive
[04:53] <TheReconHunter> and archive it as a .deb?
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> bretzel: there could be many reasons for it -- drivers, incompatibility, you discovered a new bug, etc. etc.
[04:53] <CarinArr> !pine
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <CarinArr> meh
[04:53] <dreg> Hi guys, I'm having some trouble here -- normally I can focus a window simply by clicking it, but for some reason I now have to click the titlebar to focus it
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> CarinArr: what do you want to know about pine?
[04:53] <CarinArr> does anyone know if there's a package for pine?
[04:53] <variant> TheReconHunter: did you download the gparted latest version?
[04:53] <CarinArr> fyrestrtr, just want to install it
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> !info pine
[04:53] <TheReconHunter> dreg: for some reason i had the same problem yesteray
[04:53] <ubotu> Package pine does not exist in any distro I know
[04:53] <CarinArr> heh
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> !info pico
[04:53] <TheReconHunter> variant: yes, it is a tar.gz and i extracted it
[04:53] <ubotu> Package pico does not exist in any distro I know
[04:54] <CarinArr> o.O
[04:54] <fyrestrtr> hrmm ... that's strange.
[04:54] <dreg> TheReconHunter, it is driving me completely insane haha, what did you do to repair it?
[04:54] <Kingsqueak> pine has an odd license as I recall and that is why
[04:54] <TheReconHunter> dreg: yeah, im just installing edgy, because i messed more than that up when trying to fix it
[04:54] <netpython> !pico
[04:54] <TheReconHunter> dreg: sry man, i had no idea as to what to do
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pico - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <dreg> TheReconHunter, ah, that's dissapointing... I remember reading about it before, that it's an actual bug in the window manager
[04:55] <TheReconHunter> variant: do i just compile it as a .deb?
[04:55] <TheReconHunter> nvm i cant
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> CarinArr: heh, when you search for pine, it comes up with nano, fetchmail and mutt. Maybe its trying to tell you something :P
[04:55] <dreg> Going to have to alt+tab until I can reinstall I guess
[04:55] <CarinArr> well i hate mutt with a passion
[04:55] <CarinArr> ;)
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> CarinArr: just install it from source if you must. I can't imagine pine having very difficult requirements.
[04:56] <salome> pine is out of development, highly insecure, posesses a license that is not compatable with GPL, and is quite buggy.
[04:56] <TheReconHunter> Now that i have the tar.gz and the build-essential package, what do i do to install the package
[04:56] <arepie> how to hide icons on desktop?
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> TheReconHunter: uncompress the tarball ( tar -xvvzf somefile.tar.gz then cd into somefile and then type ./configure )
[04:56] <CarinArr> salome, it might be, but i've used it for a decade, it's my security blanket
[04:57] <salome> yeah, im the same way about tin
[04:57] <salome> ive used it since 1.0
[04:57] <Ubunturookie> is it possible to run the live cd on a raid array?
[04:57] <TheReconHunter> cd?
[04:57] <TheReconHunter> i followed you up to uncompressing the archive
[04:57] <Ubunturookie> i get to where it says loading kernal and it stops responding
[04:57] <TheReconHunter> so i just have a folder
[04:57] <TheReconHunter> then what
[04:57] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[04:57] <TheReconHunter> aight
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> TheReconHunter: cd thatfolder
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> TheReconHunter: then ./configure
[04:58] <piggyg1> hi
[04:59] <Ubunturookie> anyone?
[04:59] <coz_> piggyg1, welcome
[04:59] <variant> TheReconHunter: if it fails you may have to install a couple of dependancies
[04:59] <piggyg1> can I ask ubuntu questions here
[04:59] <variant> Ubunturookie: what?
[04:59] <coz_> Ubunturookie, I just got here so if you posted a question i didn't see it
[04:59] <variant> piggyg1: no, this is for microsoft windows support :)
[04:59] <Ubunturookie> is it possible to run the live cd on a raid array?
[04:59] <variant> piggyg1: of course :)
[04:59] <piggyg1> LOL
[04:59] <Ubunturookie> i get to where it says loading kernal and it stops responding
[04:59] <Ubunturookie> how long should it take to load kerna;?
[04:59] <kitche> salome: you do know that Firefox has a incompatible license with GPL also right?
[05:00] <coz_> Ubunturookie, ok you mean during installation?
[05:00] <Ubunturookie> yeah
[05:00] <piggyg1> variant: My intel proset wireless card at point in time was detected as a wireless card, now it is just detected as a network card
[05:00] <salome> yup, kitche
[05:00] <coz_> Ubunturookie, and which version of ubuntu are you trying toinstall
[05:00] <piggyg1> variant: any ideas on how to fix that?
[05:00] <salome> pretty much everything useful has a license incompatable with the gpl.
[05:00] <Ubunturookie> the newest
[05:00] <salome> ironic!
[05:00] <yango> how to configure lm-sensors on ubuntu?
[05:00] <coz_> Ubunturookie, ubuntu edgy?
[05:00] <yango> ubotu, lm-sensors
[05:00] <kitche> just making sure salome :)
[05:00] <piggyg1> variant: I really don't want to restore the whole computer :) if I don't have to
[05:00] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.0-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 479 kB, installed size 1472 kB
[05:00] <Ubunturookie> 6.10
[05:00] <salome> :)
[05:00] <CarinArr> oh for crying out loud
[05:01] <coz_> Ubunturookie, ok which cd are you using, the live cd or the alternative cd
[05:01] <Ubunturookie> live i believe
[05:01] <Ubunturookie> can i post link?
[05:01] <CarinArr> i seriously need to figure out why i can't install packages
[05:01] <coz_> Ubunturookie, yes
[05:01] <Ubunturookie> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#lts
[05:01] <Ubunturookie> thatone
[05:01] <Nikolas> Hello
[05:02] <coz_> Ubunturookie, hold on
[05:02] <Ubunturookie> k thanks coz_
[05:02] <kitche> CarinArr: what are the errors it's showing you?
[05:02] <CarinArr> kitche, it doesn't, it hangs
[05:02] <Trixsey> Good evening, folks!
[05:02] <Trixsey> I can't install ubuntu! :(
[05:02] <coz_> Ubunturookie, well 6.10 is edgy and when yo put in the cd you get the desktop with the install button there right?
[05:02] <kitche> CarinArr: what are you using to install packages?
[05:03] <CarinArr> kitche, hangs on "setting up packagename..."
[05:03] <Akuma_> is it possible to cd into an archive?
[05:03] <Ubunturookie> i get a splash screen but i am running a stripped raid array
[05:03] <Nikolas> Anyone else having problems with glib? I've tried to build a couple different programs and I've some errors about undefined reference to `g_object_ref_sink'
[05:03] <Nikolas> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../lib/libglade-2.0.so: undefined reference to `g_object_ref_sink'
[05:03] <Ubunturookie> so not sure if it will work on that
[05:03] <kitche> Akuma_: you have to extract the archieve first
[05:04] <CarinArr> kitche, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296203 that's my problem
[05:04] <Ubunturookie> says reboot with this cd to run ubuntu without affecting your system
[05:04] <Akuma_> kitche: hmm.. would have been nice ..
[05:04] <Trixsey> I downloaded the CD ISO and burned it on a DVD (didn't have any CDs), changed boot-order in BIOS to CD/DVD first.. boosted.. got to a menue where I could choose "Install ubuntu now" or something, so I tried it out. A loading screen came up, the computer played some sounds after it finnished loading and my screen went black :P
[05:04] <kitche> Nikolas according tot hat it's libglade not glib
[05:04] <coz_> Ubunturookie, ah i see, well i am not the right person to talk to baout that however, you want to donwload the alternative cd with more options, but that doesn't seem to be th prblem... someone here can help with the reaid issues ... but let me check the net to see if people have solved theo problems assoiciated with this , if any
[05:04] <Paddy_EIRE> what is the command to install the K7 kernal in edgy
[05:04] <Trixsey> So I tried CD-Test (0 checksums failed) and Memory test (0 errors)
[05:05] <Trixsey> What can be wrong? Why does my screen go black trying to install Ubuntu 6.1?
[05:05] <Nikolas> kitche, I've gotten this with anjuta and it complained that gnomevfs has undefined references to glib functions
[05:05] <factorx> My notebook hangs while shutting down, why so, and what can I do against that?
[05:06] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:06] <Trixsey> Oh yeah, I'm on a notebook to
[05:06] <Trixsey> too
[05:06] <Ubunturookie> coz_ can you post the link for that cd?
[05:06] <Trixsey> I also have probs with notebook and Ubuntu 6.1 :(
[05:06] <variant> factorx: when you log in again check the logs in /var/log/ to see what warnings were generated if any
[05:06] <coz_> Ubunturookie, hold on i will get it
[05:06] <Ubunturookie> thanks man
[05:06] <piggyg1> Trixsey: what kind of notebook you have?
[05:07] <Trixsey> Acer
[05:07] <piggyg1> Trixsey: model?
[05:07] <Ubunturookie> i have to go to work but i will play with this tonight
[05:07] <Trixsey> travel mate
[05:07] <TheReconHunter> Hey. I just compiled a gparted package sucessfully, but for some reason, when i try using gparted, it brings me to the old version. anyone know why?
[05:07] <piggyg1> Trixsey: a little more specific would be nice
[05:07] <Trixsey> 8101 WLMI
[05:07] <Trixsey> sorry, had to check :p
[05:07] <piggyg1> k
[05:07] <coz_> Ubunturookie, look for the alternative cd download on this  page http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/
[05:07] <Ubunturookie> thanks man
[05:08] <jrib> TheReconHunter: how did you install it?
[05:08] <Ubunturookie> see you later
[05:08] <Ubunturookie> off to work
[05:08] <TheReconHunter> i cded to the unextracted package
[05:08] <Ubunturookie> thanks for the help
[05:08] <TheReconHunter> and idd ./configure
[05:08] <Ubunturookie> ;o)
[05:09] <TheReconHunter> adn got all the necessary packages
[05:09] <jrib> !enter
[05:09] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:09] <Trixsey> Tried to install Ubuntu and screen went all black -_-
[05:09] <Trixsey> Really a mystery :(
[05:09] <piggyg1> Trixsey: still reading the specs, but when mine went blank it was because of a bad cd
[05:10] <Trixsey> piggyg1: my cd works fine with anything else :/
[05:10] <Trixsey> oh you mean the ubuntu cd
[05:10] <piggyg1> Trixsey: I re-downloaded the iso, burned a new copy and BOOM it worked
[05:10] <Trixsey> thought you ment the drtive
[05:10] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, make  then sudo checkinstall
[05:10] <Trixsey> oh okay
[05:10] <Trixsey> I'll try it out, perhaps on a CD this time too.. and not a DVD
[05:10] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, what are you trying to install by the way?
[05:10] <TheReconHunter> the newer version of gparted via the live cd
[05:11] <TheReconHunter> because i cant do much with the one that it came with
[05:11] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, ahh.  well after ./configure now you need to run make  so at the terminal in the folder just type make
[05:12] <TheReconHunter> o0o
[05:12] <TheReconHunter> okay
[05:12] <TheReconHunter> and do i have to be cded into the folder to do this?
[05:12] <piggyg1> Trixsey: yeah, ubuntu don't work on Virtual PC for some crazy reason :( thats my problem too
[05:12] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, yeah you should still be in the folder after you ran ./configure
[05:13] <jrib> ubotu: tell TheReconHunter about compiling
[05:13] <h1st0> jrib, won't work I already sent him instructions
[05:14] <TheReconHunter> after make is completed, i should be able to use gparted, correct?
[05:14] <jrib> TheReconHunter: no, then use checkinstall (you'll need to install it)
[05:14] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, no  make just builds it
[05:14] <koke> o.laa
[05:14] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, make compiles it then we run checkinstall to install it.
[05:14] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, sudo checkinstall actually.
[05:15] <jrib> TheReconHunter: though if you are on the livecd it doesn't matter much if you just do 'sudo make install'
[05:15] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, whats wrong with the gparted on the live cd?
[05:15] <piggyg1> Why doesn't ubuntu work on Virtual PC 2004?
[05:15] <lmosher> Ok I'm finally upgrading to Edgy. Is it better to upgrade (from Dapper) or to re-install? Dapper was my first Ubuntu, before I used Fedora and that crew always suggested a fresh install.
[05:15] <h1st0> piggyg1, ask them.
[05:15] <piggyg1> i know eh'
[05:15] <bretzel> btw, I have the same results using Beryl + XGL ( lag @every ~0.25sec ) same as in aiglx... might be the NVidia driver or misconfig in xorg.conf ...?
[05:15] <TheReconHunter> well, it will not let my move my ext3 partition
[05:15] <piggyg1> if it did man it would rock
[05:15] <TheReconHunter> and it keeps doing nothing and freezing
[05:15] <h1st0> !upgrade | lmosher
[05:15] <ubotu> lmosher: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[05:15] <lmosher> bretzel, isn't it possible to use beryl w/out xgl anf aiglx using the newest X?
[05:16] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, are you currently on the live cd or your base system?
[05:16] <TheReconHunter> live cd atm
[05:16] <bretzel> lmosher: how to get the last X ? ( 7.1.1 ? )
[05:16] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, so you are trying to install the new version from source while booted on the live cd?  well then after make is done just do sudo make install
[05:16] <segfault_> lmosher, it is possible with the latest nvidia driver
[05:16] <TheReconHunter> okay
[05:16] <TheReconHunter> thank you
[05:16] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, did you remove the old version?
[05:17] <TheReconHunter> not yet
[05:17] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, well you might want to do that.  befor einstalling the new one.
[05:17] <ailean> lahey
[05:17] <bretzel> segfault_: latest nvidia driver has bugs ?
[05:17] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, if it removes the dependencies for gparted you could always install those with out installing gparted.
[05:17] <bretzel> -- of course if it is beta :-)
[05:17] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, with build-dep
[05:18] <segfault_> bretzel, i tried it when it was in beta and everything was good except suspend/hibernate, i have not tried it since it was released non beta
[05:18] <ailean> bretzel, i haven't seen any bugs...
[05:18] <TheReconHunter> how would i do that
[05:18] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, i.e. sudo apt-get remove gparted && sudo apt-get build-dep gparted
[05:18] <TheReconHunter> because it did delete the dependencies lol
[05:18] <lmosher> bretzel, I'm not sure of the details as I haven't tried. Watch the Beryl forms they post some useful information and how-tos there
[05:18] <segfault_> !nvnida-beta | bretzel
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvnida-beta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <bretzel> is it possible that the latest driver is slower than the previous rel. ?
[05:18] <h1st0> TheReconHunter, well just apt-get build-dep gparted  should just install the dependencies
[05:18] <segfault_> !nvidia-beta | bretzel
[05:18] <ubotu> bretzel: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[05:19] <bretzel> segfault_: I did use the amaranth repo to get the driver  ( nvidia-glx )
[05:19] <TheReconHunter> okay
[05:20] <TheReconHunter> im done with all of that, and now im starting up gparted, but it doesnt seem to be doing much
[05:20] <segfault_> bretzel, then u can use beryl without xgl
[05:20] <TheReconHunter> darn, its stuck at scanning all devices
[05:21] <TheReconHunter> w/e, ill just restart and do what i can
[05:21] <bretzel> I do use ( I am actually with aiglx + beryl ) -- this is the installed version: 1.0.9629+<IP_ADDRESS>-2~amaranth
[05:21] <bretzel> version of nvidia-glx of course :-)
[05:21] <segfault_> bretzel, with that nvidia driver u dont need aiglx either (ucan use, but dont need to)
[05:23] <bretzel> segfault_: oops you lost me here, How do I know I am using aiglx ( by not explicitly using Xgl  ) ??
[05:24] <kitche> bretzel: you will have to look at your Xorg.0.log and see if it says anything about aiglx in there
[05:24] <bretzel> kitche: thanks seeking it now :-)
[05:24] <boink> !wireless
[05:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:25] <Noah0504> Does anyone happen to have an orkut account?
[05:25] <Vuen> hey guys, i'm setting up ubuntu on an old laptop. it's a pentium 2 333mhz, with 64 mb of ram and a 6 gig hard drive. is this enough to run kubuntu? should i put xubuntu on it?
[05:25] <temba> sys requirements searched ?
[05:25] <bretzel> cool : X is 7.1.1 :-)
[05:26] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, id go for a server install and xfce (or perhaps even fluxbox)
[05:26] <nolimitsoya> server install to cut down the extra fat...
[05:26] <temba> any1 here knows good tuts about , how to crypt partitions with 2fish ?
[05:26] <nolimitsoya> ehm... i think it might be called command line install, and not server, in edgy...
[05:27] <nolimitsoya> temba, man 2fish?
[05:27] <easytiger> my upgrade to 6.1 broke my vmware.. how do i fix?
[05:27] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: yeah, i'm already doing a server install, it doesn't have enough memory to boot the livecd
[05:27] <bretzel> backing store disabled ....
[05:28] <brosioz> how could i allow my user to write into /var/www ??
[05:28] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: it's for a friend who's migrating from windows; i'd much rather have kubuntu on it, because it's easier to make it look like windows. do you think it would run well? is there somewhere a list of hardware requirements/suggestions for kde?
[05:28] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, good :) but are you installing a command line system, or just doing a command line install? those things are not the same, and its the formar that is to be preferred in your case
[05:28] <mots> how can i mount ufs2 on ubuntu?
[05:29] <mots> and: does ubuntus grub support ufs2?
[05:29] <Vuen> installing a command line system? on a laptop?
[05:29] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, kde can run on quite slow hw, but id still suggest a more lightweighwm
[05:29] <bretzel> segfault_: nothing about aiglx then I don't use it it means ... do you know if using it may be faster ?  and how to  ?
[05:29] <temba> any crypt experts here ? how do i crypt partitions? in suse i can do in installa ( setup)
[05:29] <godmachine81> ifireball:: what was you talking about earlier?
[05:29] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: mm. well, i've got nothing to do all day, so i'll throw kubuntu on it, and if it's too slow i'll just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: thanks
[05:29] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, just select 'install commandlinesystem' or the like from the alternate cd boot :) then fetch all packages you want manualy after install
[05:30] <Vuen> temba: look up TrueCrypt for full drive encryption
[05:30] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, dont install the -desktoppackages
[05:30] <factorx> crazy netsplit
[05:30] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: oh. how come?
[05:30] <kitche> factorx: no they are rehubbing the europe servers
[05:30] <Vuen> aargh
[05:31] <Gwildor> let things settle
[05:31] <segfault_> bretzel, i dont use aiglx and havent tried it, i dont recall how to tell if u r using it or not.  I am using xgl and nvidia 8776 currently for suspend/hibernate (it may work in latest nvidia release i havent tried), as far performance between with/without xgl i didnt notice much of a diff
[05:32] <mots> well
[05:32] <earthian> how do you tell if you are using aiglx ?
[05:32] <mots> guess its normal again...
[05:33] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, did you get my last messages about what packets to install and what not to install?
[05:33] <nolimitsoya> *packages
[05:33] <mots> in case nobody read it, i asked if its possible to mount ufs2 and if ubuntus grub can read it
[05:33] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: nope, just the message about not installing -desktop packages
[05:33] <kitche> mots: not that I m aware of
[05:33] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, dont install the -desktoppackages
[05:33] <nolimitsoya> they will bog you down
[05:33] <nolimitsoya> just apt-get install kde-core
[05:33] <nolimitsoya> or, apt-get install xfce
[05:33] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: :/
[05:34] <soccio> Hi everybody
[05:34] <foomanchew> Under XGL and beryl... anyone know how I can make terminal  server client applet to not use a transparent window ?
[05:34] <nolimitsoya> and install xserver-xorg-core xfonts-base
[05:34] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: ordinarily i'd agree, but it's for a friend who's afraid of command lines or installing things. if i forget to install something important she'll freak out
[05:34] <foomanchew> its very annoying
[05:34] <foomanchew> cant see my windows servers
[05:34] <bretzel> ooh! I just read that AIGLX works with "dri" -- trying it
[05:34] <soccio> Is there any application to create backup bootable disks for very easy and fast recover?
[05:34] <foomanchew> desktops
[05:34] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, then you can come help her out :) and btw, theres always synaptic ;)
[05:34] <bretzel> cya
[05:34] <Gent> Well, firefox didn't like that version of chatzilla
[05:35] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, at least its better than an unusable system weighted down with bloat :)
[05:35] <Vuen> soccio: not to my knowledge, but there a lot of variations of floppy-disk linux distributions with which you could recover.
[05:35] <Gent> so, as I was saying.  Anyone here got nvidia raid-1 working with edgy?
[05:35] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: mkay. that's a good idea
[05:35] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: i'll do that
[05:35] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: thanks for the help
[05:35] <soccio> Vuen: I know... but what if I only have one CD drive and the backup is on the same CD?
[05:36] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, no problem :)
[05:36] <Vuen> i'll probably be back in a couple hours for help installing the wireless card :(
[05:36] <Gent> I'm getting this really screwy problem at boot... there's about 9,000 others with the same issue it seems (when I search google), but no one has the answer for me
[05:36] <madman91> hey all... i want ubuntu to be my friend, but i doubt it wants to be mine... i downloaded 4 diff cd's ... ubuntu 6.06 6.10 (regular) and ubuntu 6.06 6.10 (alternate, which i used to try to install with text) .... both text installs only did the first 2 loading things... the safe graphics in 6.06 worked and 6.10 safe graphics didnt... i loaded into 6.06 safe .. and I went through the installer.. but if finished without really in
[05:36] <madman91> stalling anything.. i went through the 5? steps and no errors... and then it pooped..
[05:36] <Gent> I get the ubuntu splash, and then it konks out and busybox starts complaining can't find tty; job control turned off
[05:36] <nolimitsoya> soccio, then get another one, or boot into a ramdrive, or of a usb pendrive
[05:36] <Vuen> soccio: not livecds, floppy disk distributions. so you run linux off the floppy and put in your backup cd.
[05:36] <nolimitsoya> !wireless | Vuen
[05:36] <ubotu> Vuen: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:37] <Vuen> soccio: alternatively, you can just install DSL on a usb key
[05:37] <Damon> 'evening ^
[05:37] <Damon> ^^*
[05:37] <soccio> Vuen, nolimitsoya: Ok thanks, but I was looking for something more similar to the old versions of Norton Ghost... and I have no floppy driver...
[05:37] <Al_lA> hey, just wondering what's a good size to give my boot partition?
[05:38] <Gent> every fix for the problem tells me to edit my inittab, but it doesn't look like edgy has one
[05:38] <Vuen> soccio: ah. do you have a usb key? DSL is apparently pretty easy to set up on one
[05:38] <nolimitsoya> soccio, as said, you dont need a floppy driver. ghosting can be done by just dumping the filesystem to a file, but there is no need on a unix system. just build a tar ball
[05:38] <Jimbo53> hello
[05:38] <kitche> soccio: you might want to look up sysrescd if your looking for something like ghost since it has partimage on a livecd
[05:39] <nolimitsoya> still, a tar ball only has advantages over a disk image :)
[05:39] <Jimbo53> total n00b here trying to install gparted
[05:39] <nolimitsoya> Jimbo53, sudo apt-get install gparted
[05:39] <Gent> anyone?
[05:40] <nolimitsoya> Gent, man upstart
[05:40] <soccio> kitche: could you give me the sysrescd address?
[05:40] <Gent> nolimitsoya, well that'd be nice, but I can't boot in
[05:40] <Al_lA> how much should I give my boot partition? Say 50meg?
[05:40] <Jimbo53> nolimitsoya: thats not what the instructions said
[05:40] <nolimitsoya> Gent, use a live cd then :) what problem are you having?
[05:40] <sotcommy> Hi there, i've got a problem with my ubuntu 6.10 edgy (actually for testing beryl). I cant get the swiss keyboard layout completely to work... the Alt Gr key and the windows key don't work. Any1 in here who can help me?
[05:40] <Jimbo53> all I ever used before was windows
[05:40] <kitche> nolimitsoya: umm partimage makes a disk image just that it uses .tar.gz but uses an extension of like 100 and such instead of .tar.gz|bz2
[05:40] <nolimitsoya> Jimbo53, what instructions? anyway, installation of sortware is done as i said :)
[05:40] <Gent> nolimitsoya, busybox is saying can't access tty; job controlled turned off
[05:41] <salim> Jimbo53 what did the instruction say? what instructions?
[05:41] <Gent> and dropping to a shell
[05:41] <Jimbo53> one sed
[05:41] <kitche> soccio: it's sysrescd.org or you can go to partiamge.org and at the bottom of the page the link for sysrescd should be there
[05:41] <Gent> I figured I would have device issues, but I thought it would be with the raid stuff.... that stuff seems to work fine
[05:41] <Jimbo53> salim: 1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
[05:41] <Jimbo53>      `./configure' to configure the package for your system.  If you're
[05:41] <Jimbo53>      using `csh' on an old version of System V, you might need to type
[05:41] <Jimbo53>      `sh ./configure' instead to prevent `csh' from trying to execute
[05:41] <Jimbo53>      `configure' itself.
[05:41] <Jimbo53>      Running `configure' takes awhile.  While running, it prints some
[05:41] <nolimitsoya> kitche, but still, a disk image is inferior to a tarball :)
[05:41] <Jimbo53>      messages telling which features it is checking for.
[05:42] <Jimbo53>   2. Type `make' to compile the package.
[05:42] <Jimbo53>   3. Optionally, type `make check' to run any self-tests that come with
[05:42] <Jimbo53>      the package.
[05:42] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | Jimbo53
[05:42] <ubotu> Jimbo53: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:42] <Jimbo53>   4. Type `make install' to install the programs and any data files and
[05:42] <Jimbo53>      documentation.
[05:42] <Jimbo53>   5. You can remove the program binaries and object files from the
[05:42] <Jimbo53>      source code directory by typing `make clean'.  To also remove the
[05:42] <Jimbo53>      files that `configure' created (so you can compile the package for
[05:42] <Jimbo53>      a different kind of computer), type `make distclean'.  There is
[05:42] <nolimitsoya> Jimbo53, please!
[05:42] <Jimbo53>      also a `make maintainer-clean' target, but that is intended mainly
[05:42] <Jimbo53>      for the package's developers.  If you use it, you may have to get
[05:42] <boink> !pastebin
[05:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:42] <Jimbo53>      all sorts of other programs in order to regenerate files that came
[05:42] <Jimbo53>      with the distribution.
[05:42] <boink> op?
[05:42] <nolimitsoya> Jimbo53, please stop
[05:42] <Jimbo53> sorry
[05:42] <nolimitsoya> >_<
[05:42] <Jimbo53> stopped
[05:42] <Gent> it's about 2 seconds after boot that it happens
[05:42] <boink> !tell Jimbo53 about pastebin
[05:42] <soccio> thanks kitche, it is just was I'm looking for
[05:42] <Gent> it shows the splash
[05:42] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | Jimbo53
[05:42] <ubotu> Jimbo53: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:42] <Jimbo53> salim asked what it said so i pasted too much
[05:42] <Gent> then just drops out to busybox:  can't access tty; job control turned off
[05:42] <salim> Jimbo53: where did you get that instructions?
[05:42] <nolimitsoya> Jimbo53, forget instructions, and do as i say ;)
[05:43] <Jimbo53> with the install file i downloaded from the web
[05:43] <nolimitsoya> no
[05:43] <sotcommy> can someone help me with the swiss-german keyboard layout?
[05:43] <Jimbo53> it was in the zip
[05:43] <nolimitsoya> dont download stuff
[05:43] <nolimitsoya> you dont have to
[05:43] <salim> delete them
[05:43] <salim> forget the windows world
[05:43] <salim> in linux you can easily install through synaptic for example
[05:43] <nolimitsoya> just fire up synaptic and search gparted, or type sudo apt-get install gparted in a termina
[05:43] <nolimitsoya> *terminal
[05:43] <boink> sotcommy: what do you need that
[05:43] <sotcommy> hmm?
[05:43] <sotcommy> :)
[05:43] <boink> just use the alt keys to make the umlauts
[05:44] <salim> @Jimbo53 do you know where to find/start synaptic?
[05:44] <Jimbo53> no
[05:44] <sotcommy> i need it for the (at)'s and stuff like that
[05:44] <nolimitsoya> Jimbo53, its in your system menu, though i fint the terminal command faster and easier to remember
[05:44] <Jimbo53> i just loaded this yesterday
[05:44] <sotcommy> not having a alt gr key is no option
[05:44] <nolimitsoya> Jimbo53, sudo apt-get install <whatever program you want>
[05:44] <nolimitsoya> in your case, gparted
[05:45] <salim> Jimbo53, look, there is a pm window
[05:45] <salim> in irc
[05:46] <Jimbo53> im in the pm window
[05:46] <ac2n> hello-goodbye
[05:46] <Solarion> with edgy, I'm having a problem with sensors -s.  I get the following error: Can't access procfs/sysfs file
[05:46] <Solarion> Unable to find i2c bus information;
[05:46] <Solarion> For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and libsensors
[05:47] <Jimbo53> salim can you see my typing in the pm?
[05:47] <Gent> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-263432.html
[05:47] <Gent> I NEED some answers to that
[05:47] <tylerl> Could someone explain to me the difference between GTK, Metacity, etc?
[05:47] <Al_lA> would 100meg be the right size for a boot partition?
[05:47] <salim> no I cant
[05:47] <Gent> GTK is a toolkit, Metacity is a window manager
[05:47] <Al_lA> it's not exactly going to use up a lot, right?
[05:47] <salim> I didnt get any message of you
[05:48] <Jimbo53> i have been responding in the pm
[05:48] <nolimitsoya> Al_lA, 50mb is two times tomuch :)
[05:48] <salim> that's strange
[05:48] <tylerl> Gent: I keep downloading themes etc (GTK and Metacity), and the borders and my desktop look right, but all of my buttons and tabs and things look very "legacy".  What am I most likely missing
[05:48] <Jimbo53> wonder why the text doesnt come through as i can see your messages
[05:48] <salim> but you get mine?
[05:48] <Al_lA> ah cool, okay nolimitsoya.. thanks :)
[05:48] <Jimbo53> yes i get yours
[05:48] <salim> well I will explain you there then, and you can write to me here, but write my name when you adress me, so I know this message was for me
[05:49] <Jimbo53> try joining #jimbo
[05:49] <Jimbo53> ?
[05:49] <earthian> hello how do i rebuild a fontcache?
[05:50] <brad_> Hi  all.  for some unknown reason, my kopete and gaim disconnect from msn and google talk without warning.  All my contacts look like they're online, and the icon shows me as being online, but i am not.  any ideas
[05:50] <nolimitsoya> Al_lA, its a good idea to have some headroom forkernel updates and switches, so make it about 40-60mb :)
[05:51] <Poromenos> does anyone have experience with hardware raid in ubuntu?
[05:52] <psusi> this wouldn't happen to be one of those sata ones would it?
[05:52] <psusi> or are we talking a $400 scsi raid card?
[05:53] <n00mz> hi, is sound delay in games a common issue on ubuntu?
[05:53] <mandelum> I HAVE A NE3W BUG IN EDGY
[05:53] <Solarion> n00mz: what game?
[05:53] <mandelum> sorry for caps lock
[05:53] <Poromenos> it's a motherboard with an onboard raid controller and two sata disks
[05:53] <n00mz> Solarion: Quake 3
[05:53] <mandelum> apps keep on shtting down just like that
[05:53] <psusi> Poromenos: ok.. it's a fake hardware raid then... read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[05:53] <Poromenos> psusi: great, thanks
[05:53] <Solarion> n00mz: native?
[05:54] <Gent> psusi, have you set that stuff up?
[05:54] <mandelum> it happened with firefox and now, a couple of times with inkscape
[05:54] <psusi> Gent: yes... I wrote the howto
[05:54] <[sYn] > Poromenos, I used http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2557 to get mine working
[05:54] <n00mz> Solarion: yeah used the linux installer
[05:54] <Gent> Oh, maybe you can help me then
[05:54] <Gent> btw, great howto
[05:54] <psusi> thanks
[05:54] <mandelum> anyone know what it is?
[05:54] <Solarion> n00mz: dunno then.  *should* work fine, but I don't know much about what quake is using for sound.
[05:54] <Gent> but I've run into an issue, and perhaps you can't help me as I think this is more edgy/upstart related than anything to do with the raid
[05:54] <psusi> shoot
[05:55] <Solarion> stupid sensors
[05:55] <Gent> I've got the system all fully installed and what not by mounting and chrooting and all that.... and the dmraid stuff is in fine, and all is well with the devices...
[05:55] <n00mz> Solarion: yeah it *should*, other people don't seem to have an issue
[05:55] <Gent> but when I try and boot the actual system buxybox is dropping out telling me that it can't access the tty
[05:55] <Poromenos> psusi: wait, i see here that it won't read the data from the other disk in case of corruption in RAID1
[05:55] <Poromenos> then what is it good for?
[05:55] <Solarion> n00mz: sound working fine elsewhere?
[05:55] <brad_> could my google talk being dropped be a ubuntu problem, or the IM app problem?
[05:56] <n00mz> Solarion: yeah, though I havn't had the chance to test other games
[05:56] <daniel05> I'm trying to configure the Evolution email client for a MS Exchange account. I type in the OWA URL and my username on the setup page, but they cannot be authenticated. I can access the mail fine from the Web. What could I be doing wrong?
[05:56] <Solarion> n00mz: you now how to config the sound in quake?  I've unfortunately not got a copy.  :(
[05:57] <psusi> Gent: please pastebin your menu.lst and fdisk -l on the raid device
[05:57] <n00mz> Solarion: I 'fixed' the issue by using s_useopenal within the game, but something's gone wrong even with that and it no longer fixes the delay
[05:57] <Solarion> n00mz: weird
[05:57] <Gent> psusi, unfortunately, I can't... this is a system at work that I'm building for a customer, and I'm at home
[05:57] <Solarion> dunno what s_usopenal is (arg to quake4?)
[05:57] <Gent> I can tell you this for certain though, I only have 4 partitions
[05:57] <Gent> Linux root is the 3rd
[05:57] <psusi> Poromenos: currently I think the dm won't auto failover... you can still bring down the system and boot up just off the good drive though, so you don't loose any data
[05:57] <Gent> in grub I'm using (hd0,2)
[05:58] <psusi> Poromenos: thouhg they may have fixed that recently actually....
[05:58] <Gent> and for root I'm pointing at /dev/mapper/nvidia_bc...3
[05:58] <Gent> the ... is the other seemingly random letters
[05:58] <captine> anyone had a similar prob with IM app on edgy, where they just disconnect, but still appear connected?
[05:58] <Poromenos> psusi: ah, good
[05:58] <psusi> Gent: hrm.... looks good...
[05:59] <psusi> Poromenos: I use raid0 myself...
[05:59] <Gent> Yeah... and it's weird, when it drops to buxybox
[05:59] <Poromenos> psusi: i am installing the ubuntu server cd, any idea how the instructions work there? or is it not possible to do that?
[05:59] <Gent> everything seems sorta in check
[05:59] <Iceman_B^Ltop> yay support \o/
[05:59] <psusi> Poromenos: not possible.. you must use the livecd and install manually
[05:59] <Gent> in busybox I can execute varying commands and I can see the nvidia raid devices in /dev/mapper
[05:59] <Gent> and all that looks good
[05:59] <kitche> Gent well the busybox is in the initrd image
[05:59] <Poromenos> psusi: oh, okay, thanks
[05:59] <Gent> I'm fairly certain it's not related to disk issues/raid not configured/booting right...
[05:59] <Gent> kitchen, I'm aware, either way, I need those devices
[06:00] <Gent> without them the system ain't booting to raid
[06:00] <psusi> Gent: what exactly does it complain about again?
[06:00] <Gent> psusi, says:  can't access tty; job control turned off
[06:00] <Noah0504> Does anyone happen to have an orkut account?
[06:00] <Gent> lots of people seem to be having the issue, but none of their fixes/ideas worked for me
[06:00] <Vuen> hey all, i just booted from a kubuntu alternate cd. what do all these options mean? "install in text mode" "install in oem mode" "install a command-line system"
[06:00] <psusi> Gent: that's normal once it decides to go into a shell... what does it say before that?  that's when something goes wrong
[06:01] <Gent> Oh... hrm... I'm not sure I ever noticed anything before that
[06:01] <psusi> Gent: ohh, by the way... are you using the updated package attached to the bug report?
[06:01] <kitche> Vuen: install in text mode is liek th debian installer install in oem mode is if you want to make an oem install and install a command-line ysstem will just install command-line
[06:01] <shingalated> does anyone know why I am unable to download packages? apt gets stuck at "0% [Connecting to 192.168 (<IP_ADDRESS>)] "
[06:01] <Vuen> kitche: what's an oem install?
[06:01] <Gent> It begins the splash screen and then just drops to busybox
[06:01] <Gent> psusi, which bug report? the one in your article?
[06:01] <kitche> Vuen: it's like Dell installs and such when you buy a new windows machine
[06:01] <psusi> shingalated: because you have it configured to use a repository or proxy in your local network that is not responding?
[06:01] <Vuen> shingalated: it says connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>, which is a local address on your home network.
[06:02] <psusi> Gent: yes
[06:02] <nolimitsoya> how do i edit the menu? xfce menu editor doesnt let me edit sorting or add programs in fex the network submenu; its on a diffrent level...
[06:02] <Vuen> kitche: what's the difference between that and text mode?
[06:02] <psusi> Gent: remove the splash and quiet options from the kernel command line
[06:02] <Vuen> kitche: is text mode like for a server?
[06:02] <kitche> Vuen: oem will let you choose what is installed while a text mode will install the full system and command-line is for servers pretty much or for someone that wants to start off with a base system
[06:02] <salim> nolimitsoya: I wouldn't use XFCE, it just makes probs and isnt that much faster, use gnome or KDE
[06:02] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, text mode is what you want
[06:02] <shingalated> psusi, how do I tell it not use a proxy?
[06:03] <psusi> actually, <IP_ADDRESS> is a valid Internet Ip address.. <IP_ADDRESS>/24 is the local reserved class C
[06:03] <nolimitsoya> salim, thats not my experience, nor my question :)
[06:03] <Gent> psusi, that's a good idea... and I will do that as soon as I'm at the computer again
[06:03] <Gent> not sure why I didn't think of that before
[06:03] <badi> hi^^
[06:03] <Vuen> nolimitsoya, kitche, thanks
[06:03] <shingalated> psusi, why would it be getting stuck there?
[06:03] <Gent> I guess I just thought the TTY stuff was the error
[06:03] <salim> nolimitsoya I used xubuntu before, and somehow wasn't really happy with it
[06:03] <psusi> shingalated: undo whatever you did in the first place to set it to use a proxy?
[06:03] <nolimitsoya> salim, xubuntu != xfce
[06:03] <Gent> so I figured it had something to do with a tty device missing
[06:03] <psusi> shingalated: because it can't contact the proxy... probably because you entered the wrong address
[06:04] <nolimitsoya> still, where does the menu configs reside so i can edit them manualy?
[06:04] <badi> can anyone help me?
[06:04] <Gent> I use slackware at home... so all this busybox/bootsplash stuff is foreign to me :(
[06:04] <nolimitsoya> !anyone badi
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anyone badi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <nolimitsoya> !anyone | badi
[06:04] <ubotu> badi: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:04] <psusi> Gent: naw.. busybox allways complains about that once it is invoked in the initramfs
[06:04] <Skyrail> anyone know where I can find instructions for installing apache specifically on ubuntu?
[06:04] <Gent> psusi, well that clears that up
[06:04] <Gent> I guess I just need to find the REAL error now
[06:04] <badi> i search for a .deb file for the pache 2.2
[06:04] <badi> apache 2.2
[06:05] <psusi> Skyrail: sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:05] <Skyrail> ok thanks heh
[06:05] <Gent> psusi, I'll be heading to work later, and certainly will get back with any info I find if I can't conquer it
[06:05] <psusi> Gent: are you using the deb attached to the bug report?
[06:05] <Gent> thanks for all the help so far, and thanks for the excellent howto
[06:05] <daxxar> How would I disable the feature that makes my ubuntu machine set the monitor to 'power save', i.e. only a hardware event like a keyboard-perss wakes it up again?
[06:05] <daxxar> (The screen is blank / black)
[06:05] <Gent> psusi, yes, I followed the howto to the T
[06:05] <psusi> Gent: you are installing edgy right?  ok
[06:05] <Solarion> heh.  had to modprobe the stuff.  What a silly error
[06:05] <Gent> if you mean the one that's listed in your howto
[06:05] <psusi> yea
[06:06] <Gent> you said that earlier and I wasn't sure what bug report you were talking about, cause I was linking to several others earlier
[06:06] <name_> how to install the kernel headers?
[06:06] <simosgin> i want to install beryl on edgy, i'm running an athlon xp and an nvidia card. currently i'm trying to install the nvidia driver but it says it can't load the kernel driver
[06:06] <POVaddct> name_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:06] <simosgin> i was wondering if there's an up to date FAQ to do this stuff
[06:06] <badi> i search for a deb file of the apache 2.2 webserver
[06:06] <name_> thnx
[06:07] <psusi> Gent: once you chrooted into the hard disk, you installed the working deb from the bug report there as well right?
[06:07] <mandelum> should you always unmount a usb pen before taking it out?
[06:07] <Gent> psusi, yes
[06:07] <nolimitsoya> ok, trying a rephrase then: if i want to edit my menu from command line, how do i do that?
[06:07] <psusi> Gent: you end up installing it twice... once on the livecd, then again in the chroot
[06:07] <psusi> ok
[06:07] <POVaddct> mandelum: yes
[06:07] <Gent> I've been working in the chroot environment for 3 days with various tweaks, workarounds, and bug fixes
[06:07] <name_> POVaddct: where are they stored then?
[06:07] <psusi> mandelum: absolutely
[06:08] <POVaddct> name_: usually in /usr/src/linux-<VERSION>/include
[06:08] <Skyrail> psusi: I've done that, now how do I configure it and access it?
[06:09] <psusi> Skyrail: fire up a browser and point it to http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:09] <POVaddct> name_: where <VERSION> is your kernel version
[06:09] <salim> name_: you can get your kernel version with "uname -r"
[06:10] <name_> i do know that
[06:10] <Skyrail> psusi: awesome ok, I see now, how would other people access this computer and see a 'web page' of some sort on there? would they type in my IP address if its static?
[06:11] <psusi> Skyrail: yes, but for now all they are goign to see is the Congradulations, you have installed apache! page, and the online help files
[06:11] <name_> POVaddct: you did not gimmi the right pkg
[06:11] <Skyrail> psusi: yup I see that, I just need to find the apache folder to put my own index page there
[06:11] <POVaddct> name_: build-essential has kernel-headers as dependency
[06:11] <sonja> good day Y'all, new install of Ubuntu one disc, no other O/S on my mobo, system monitor says ,, network history, received 1.1 MiB , sent 8.8KiB, its road runner direct conected , ethernet, but I cant get any programs online like Firefox,, Any Ideas ??
[06:12] <psusi> Skyrail: you should configure it... the config files are in /etc/apache2... the help pages explain all the settings
[06:12] <dreg> You can fix the window focus problem by reinstalling the Ubuntu metacity package just FYI
[06:12] <name_> i dont have a 2.4 kernel
[06:12] <nolimitsoya> sonja, dns problems? can you ping the outside world?
[06:12] <Skyrail> psusi: ok thanks, I'll do that
[06:12] <name_> it tells me to chose
[06:12] <what_if> sonja: have you tried pinging an internet ip address ??
[06:12] <sonja> nolimitsoya--> I am new to ubuntu and linux I have no idea
[06:12] <what_if> sonja: like ' ping www.google.com '
[06:13] <sonja> What_if in a shell ? term ??
[06:13] <andreas__> hi, i need to know which version of the rt2500 third party drivers ubuntu 5.10 shipped with. any idea where i could find such an information?(besides downloading the iso, of course)
[06:13] <what_if> sonja: yes indeed
[06:13] <name_> binary kernels suck :)
[06:13] <POVaddct> name_: the build-essential package never told me to choose kernel version. are you on dapper of edgy?
[06:13] <arjun> anyone here used ffmpeg2theora?
[06:13] <name_> i always used self built
[06:13] <name_> edgy
[06:13] <Skyrail> actually psusi when I go to that IP it gives me a page with the apache folder, I then click on that and it takes me to that page
[06:13] <name_> linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386
[06:13] <name_> that's it
[06:14] <nolimitsoya> sonja, try 'ifconfig eth0' in a terminal and se what falls out :) use pastebin!
[06:14] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin
[06:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:14] <simosgin> can someone help with the nvidia driver install?"
[06:14] <POVaddct> name_: okay, i am on dapper. no help for edgy from me.
[06:14] <sonja> nolimitsoya--> Yes Sir will do, when i find the terminal lol
[06:14] <salim> sonja: applications->accessories->Terminal
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> sonja, alt+f2 and type xterm
[06:15] <psusi> ick.... the gnome terminal is way nicer
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> psusi, but i wasnt sure she was using gnome ;)
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> xterm is universal :)
[06:16] <POVaddct> nolimitsoya: right
[06:16] <psusi> applications->accessories->terminal is too ;)
[06:16] <name_> and how to install the includes
[06:16] <nolimitsoya> psusi, not in xfce, fluxbox or icewm ;)
[06:16] <POVaddct> psusi: only on ubuntu, not on kubuntu or xubuntu
[06:16] <psusi> doesn't kde have a similar menu that runs konsole instead?
[06:16] <nolimitsoya> doesnt matter, since its still not universal
[06:16] <cyzie> anybody has xgl/compiz install properly in ubuntu? any workable quick howto?
[06:17] <sonja> nolimitsoya--> thank you , remeber that too, xterm hehe, its a term, and its showing me inet6 addr: fe80. and blah blah UP broadcast running , sorry cant paste its not online
[06:17] <Martyo> cyzie: http://forum.beryl-project.org
[06:17] <POVaddct> name_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386
[06:17] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | sonja
[06:17] <ubotu> sonja: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:17] <cyzie> thanks Martyo
[06:17] <badi> where i can get an .deb file of an apache 2.2 (it must be 2.2 not 2.0.55 or an older version!)
[06:17] <Kervan> Some one help me please i habe epson LX300+ printer but i can not print at kubuntu
[06:17] <arjun> ubotu: you're a bot huh?
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you're a bot huh? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <sonja> yes but nolimitsoya__ I would have to type it all manualy , its a stand alone pc i just built
[06:18] <cyzie> Martyo, site is down ?
[06:18] <cirvin_fox> has anyone had problems with gcc thinking std::cout is undefined?
[06:18] <blahgeekblah> I installed ATi drivers using easyubuntu, now i have no GUI, im new to linux, so i have no idea on how to revert back, or fix my problem
[06:18] <arjun> ubotu: ffmpeg2theora
[06:18] <Kervan> /mandrake
[06:18] <ubotu> ffmpeg2theora: Theora video encoder using ffmpeg. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-2build1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:18] <Martyo> cyzie: it appears so :/
[06:18] <arjun> ubotu: ffmpeg2theora dapper bug
[06:18] <ubotu> ffmpeg2theora: Theora video encoder using ffmpeg. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-1 (dapper), package size 1228 kB, installed size 3136 kB
[06:19] <psusi> badi: nowhere that I know of... you will have to download the source and compile it yourself
[06:19] <Chimera_> Hello?
[06:19] <sonja> ping of any URL addresses in a term gives me Unknown host
[06:19] <Skyrail> hwne I go to <IP_ADDRESS> it comes up with a page with a folder on it, I clikc on it and then it takes me to the apache page, have I done something wrong?
[06:19] <psusi> Skyrail: no
[06:19] <Chimera_> I need some help finding the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS destop and alternate i386 hashes.
[06:20] <sonja> what_if  it appears i am not conected how sad
[06:20] <arjun> Ubugtu: ffmpeg2theora
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> Chimera_: They're on the download page, in the list of files, MD5SUMS
[06:20] <Chimera_> The website has the 6.06.1 hashes, i need the 6.06.
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> Chimera_: Ah, okay, one sec.
[06:20] <Skyrail> well thats good to know
[06:20] <Chimera_> :), thanks.
[06:20] <zspada15> hey everyone :)
[06:20] <cirvin_fox> Has anyone had problems with build-essential package?
[06:20] <salim> blahgeekblah what ati card do you have?
[06:21] <Kervan> Some one help me please i habe epson LX300+ printer but i can not print at kubuntu
[06:21] <badi> ok, thanks psusi ^^
[06:21] <kitche> cirvin_fox it's looking in a different spot for the libraries most likely
[06:21] <Skyrail> psusi: so how do I get my webpage showing there?
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Chimera_: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06.0/MD5SUMS
[06:21] <Chimera_> I have also been having problems while installing the 6.06 LTS desktop iso. It jams-freezes at the point of selecting the language and clicking next.
[06:21] <psusi> Skyrail: read the help files and learn to configure apache ;)
[06:21] <cirvin_fox> how can i redirect it to /usr/lib/?
[06:22] <Skyrail> psusi: ohnoes, ah well ok :)
[06:22] <psusi> Skyrail: the config files are in /etc/apache2
[06:22] <zspada15> off topic
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> Chimera_: That I doubt I can help you with, other than say 1) check the sums, 2) burn at a slow speed (4x)
[06:22] <zspada15> oops
[06:22] <jrib> cirvin_fox: what do you mean?  what problems exactly?
[06:22] <zspada15> off topic: anyone like the traveling wilburys?
[06:22] <Vuen> Chimera_: boot from the cd and choose the Check CD for Defects. i had the same thing the first time i burned dapper, and the cd was screwed up
[06:22] <psusi> Chimera_: the cd has a boot option to check its own sum
[06:22] <Chimera_>  tony, yeah... thats why i was looking for the sums, i think my problem might have been the burn speed 52x and sums.
[06:23] <Skyrail> psusi: yeah I'm looking in apache2.conf and can't see anything obvious yet
[06:23] <cirvin_fox> it claims that std::cout is undefined, its not finding a certain library i think, i tried reinstalling gcc from source last night, but it didnt help anything
[06:23] <Chimera_> Vuen, lol it freezes on the squashfs
[06:23] <livingdaylight> anyone heard of Freemind?
[06:23] <Vuen> Chimera_: haha, yeah, 52x might do it. i usually burn my linux cds at 8x, just in case
[06:23] <psusi> cirvin_fox: you need to use g++
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> livingdaylight: Yeah, it's decent.
[06:23] <cirvin_fox> its different?
[06:23] <Chimera_> Ah, is 6.10 any better?
[06:23] <Vuen> Chimera_: i had the same problem when i tried to check the cd. that means the cd is bad.
[06:23] <psusi> Skyrail: it doesn't use one big .conf in ubuntu, it is broken up into several files for maintainability
[06:23] <livingdaylight> tonyyarusso, i added repos for freemind but its not there? :(
[06:24] <Chimera_> I want to try it out, but i don't want to download the cd :)
[06:24] <Vuen> Chimera_: burn it at 8x or 16x and have your burner verify the cd
[06:24] <Vuen> Chimera_: do you have limited bandwidth?
[06:24] <Skyrail> psusi: ah ok...
[06:24] <psaczew> hi
[06:24] <cirvin_fox> psusi, Thank you!
[06:24] <psaczew> i have an question
[06:24] <livingdaylight> tonyyarusso, deb http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/ experimental/
[06:24] <livingdaylight>     deb-src http://eric.lavar.de/comp/linux/debian/ experimenta
[06:24] <sonja> when i reboot my pc with a live Slax cd rom , it finds online and An IP, what have i done wrong, its a direct connect to a road runner modem using ethernet not even usb ?
[06:24] <psusi> cirvin_fox: yes.... g++ links to the C++ runtlime library, gcc does not
[06:24] <cappe___> where is sources-omatic??
[06:25] <The_Machine> Any idea why i can't change my font in evolution using gnome?
[06:25] <The_Machine> i mean, it's like..  there *is no option* to do this!
[06:25] <psaczew> i want to change partitions i my computer
[06:25] <salim> yeah, it is because evolution is shi**
[06:25] <cappe___> or what you called it. the reportories site
[06:25] <Vuen> hey guys, i'm installing text-mode from the alternate cd. it's asking me how it wants the drive partitioned. i want it to erase the whole drive and partition it however it likes. it gives two options, "Erase entire disk" and "Erase entire disk and use LVM". what's the difference between these two?
[06:25] <sonja> i cant get a fresh install of ubuntu online , but network is showing some movement , but NO ping from a term ?
[06:25] <Chimera_> Vuen, i don't have a limit on what i can download, but i do have the 512bit/s
[06:25] <Chimera_> limit.
[06:25] <salim> yup, you can hardly do anything with evolution, just forget evolution, either live with what evolution tells you to be or use "kontact"
[06:25] <jrib> !easysource | cappe___
[06:25] <ubotu> cappe___: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:25] <variant> Vuen: lvm is not somthing you want if you dont know what it is
[06:25] <cappe___> ubotu: thx
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <Chimera_> Vuen, i think that LVM is for RAID configurations???
[06:25] <Vuen> Chimera_: you mean 512 kilobit? that's fine, it should only take like an hour or two, tops, to download a cd
[06:25] <variant> Vuen: it wont benefit you at all
[06:26] <psaczew> do you know any good program for this?
[06:26] <Vuen> variant: ah, thanks
[06:26] <psaczew> and basic in ubuntu
[06:26] <psusi> Vuen: LVM is an advanced partitioning scheme.... if you don't know what it is, you don't need it
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> livingdaylight: There are some Ubuntu-specific notes at http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FreeMind_on_Linux#Some_notes_on_.28K.29Ubuntu, not sure if that helps.  (Sorry, I have to run to class; good luck)
[06:26] <Chimera_> Vuen, lol i think, don't take it for granted. Listen to them :)
[06:26] <sonja> wow love all these fix it links , if I could get the pc online < i would be in heaven
[06:26] <variant> psusi: change how? without losing data or by creating a new parititon table?
[06:26] <Vuen> Chimera_: ah. yeah, i definitely don't need raid. it's a laptop :p
[06:27] <psusi> variant: huh?
[06:27] <variant> sonja: dhcclient eth0
[06:27] <daxxar> After I upgraded to Edgy, when I try to startx (or startxfce4), it hangs for ~30 seconds, then it fails out. Anyone know where I should look for what causes this error?
[06:27] <sonja> in a term variant ?
[06:27] <salim> psaczew: gparted
[06:27] <daxxar> grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log yields zilch
[06:27] <variant> daxxar: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:28] <sonja> variant ,sir where do i check that and find it ?
[06:28] <Vaske_Car> what to use to read/write Floppy?
[06:28] <salim> psaczew: with gparted you can change your partitions, qtparted is also very nice, both are same for me though, but be careful when working with partitions
[06:28] <daxxar> Except for the line that says "(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.", ofcourse.
[06:28] <variant> sonja: to connect to your network? do sudo dhclient eth0
[06:28] <variant> sonja: in a terminal
[06:28] <c_lisp> how can u unmount a cd drive the is buffering overfollowing and remount it?
[06:28] <salim> psaczew: removing partitions could change the numbering
[06:28] <daxxar> The end of Xorg.0.log says: "*** If unresolved symbols were reported above, they might not" "*** be the reason for the server aborting." "Backtrace:" .. then nothing more.
[06:29] <variant> ciaron: mount -o remount /dev/diskhere
[06:29] <sonja> variant is sudo simular to root ? . it asked me for a password ?
[06:29] <variant> sonja: enter your user password
[06:29] <c_lisp> ty
[06:30] <Martyo> does ubuntu create a /home partition by default?
[06:30] <variant> Martyo: no, just swap and /
[06:30] <cappe___> how do I upgrade the reportories that I have put in sources.list using apt-get?? isnt it apt-get upgrade ?? won't work though
[06:30] <sonja> variant, yes yes i did that i guessed it, no DHCpoffers received... no working leases in persitant database..sleeping ?
[06:30] <Martyo> variant: k, cheers
[06:30] <variant> Martyo: not even a /boot part, which is very annoying
[06:30] <allen> quick question, is system try gone in gaim beta that came with edgy?
[06:30] <Vaske_Car> how to formate floppy disk to FAT32?
[06:31] <variant> sonja: in that case i dont see how slax can connect if there is no dhcp server, did you specify the ip address manualy in slax
[06:31] <nolimitsoya> Vaske_Car, why would you? fat16 is mkdosfs
[06:31] <variant> ?
[06:31] <sonja> variant no Sir, its all auto,, i also had the pc online same line etc, using winsucks XP
[06:31] <c_lisp> how can u see what cd roms u have mounted?
[06:31] <Vaske_Car> nolimitsoya, I need it to copy something for Windows machine
[06:31] <highneko> beryl-vidcap; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7UbHq2rdRs
[06:31] <nolimitsoya> Vaske_Car, yes, but diskettes should be formatted with fat16, not 32
[06:32] <sonja> variant--> sir I also have this pc online in the same MODEM, but as USB it is also linux ? could that be my fault ?
[06:32] <Vaske_Car> ok
[06:32] <soundray_> Vaske_Car: if you're familiar with DOS, look at the mtools package
[06:32] <nolimitsoya> Vaske_Car, mkdosfs /dev/fd0
[06:33] <Vuen> :(
[06:33] <Vuen> i just got a rather unhelpful error message from the alternative installer
[06:33] <Vuen> An installation step failed: Install the base system
[06:33] <nux> hi all.. i need some help
[06:34] <Vuen> !ask|nux
[06:34] <ubotu> nux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:34] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, do you have enough drive space?
[06:34] <soundray_> Vuen: see if you have any more detailed messages on any of the virtual consoles (Alt-F2, Alt-F3, Alt-F4...)
[06:34] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: 8 gigs?
[06:34] <c_lisp> how can u see what cd roms u have mounted
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> c_lisp, fstab -l
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> perhaps
[06:35] <Vuen> i'm gonna check the cd for defects, do a memory test... is there a way i can check the hard drive for errors?
[06:35] <Vaske_Car> nolimitsoya, when I mount floppy and in the meantime I take it out and add some files from another box, put it back to linux box and it does not see new files. I tried Refresh but with no sucess. I have to unmount and mouunt it again to be able to see new files with nautilus. Is there any other way?
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> c_lisp, mount -l
[06:36] <Vuen> they stopped using this computer because windows 2000 complained about a corrupt system file. so i'm thinking the hard drive may be damaged. what's the easiest way to check it?
[06:36] <nolimitsoya> Vaske_Car, no, you should alwaysunmount before removing'
[06:36] <orion> .
[06:36] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, s.m.a.r.t data, if the drive has that capability
[06:36] <Vaske_Car> nolimitsoya, but its time consuming.....
[06:36] <sioux> hi who had experiences with zd1211 and g220
[06:36] <nolimitsoya> Vaske_Car, no, it isnt, and if it is you need another hobby
[06:36] <Vuen> Vaske_Car: yes, you can set up your fstab to have it immediately flush the data to the floppy so that you don't have to unmount it
[06:37] <Vuen> Vaske_Car: but i don't know how to do that :/
[06:37] <sonja> Vaske_Car--> make a a desktop link to unmount it, thats what I did
[06:37] <nolimitsoya> Vuen, you still need to tell nautilus that its been removed and inserted again
[06:37] <nolimitsoya> there fore the unmount/mount
[06:37] <salim> sioux I had a bit
[06:37] <Vuen> nolimitsoya: hmm, it occurs to me that i have a MaxBlast cd lying around, which has utilities for checking disks. i'll try that out.
[06:38] <salim> sioux: you mean wlan right?
[06:39] <sioux> salim yes wlan
[06:40] <salim> sioux: what isnt working?
[06:40] <lnxactvst> Vuen, I have had a LOT of good luck with Spinrite.  I have used it to recover data on everthing from zip disks to hard drives.  It gives a real good indicator on the health of the drive as well.  I have ruled out hard drive problems that were actually controller problems using it as well.  It is pricey at $90, but when it works, it is worth it.  If it doesn't help, they have a 100% money back guarantee, I think.
[06:40] <sioux> I load the driver zd1211rw but when I plug the usb nothing happen
[06:40] <Otacon22> where can i see the ip of my dns server?
[06:40] <Vuen> lnxactvst: i'm not interested in recovering the data. i just erased the partition table :p. i just want to check the drive for defects to see if it's useable.
[06:41] <zspada15> Otacon22: try viewing the stats of ur router
[06:41] <lnxactvst> Vuen, I know.  It does that as well, somewhat definitively.
[06:41] <sioux> according to this post that I found http://www.nabble.com/zd1211-on-edgy-t2531889.html seems the problem is the id of my usb but... i have some doubt
[06:41] <Otacon22> no, I haven't router
[06:41] <salim> sioux: I dont know that driver: zd1211rw - where did you get it from?
[06:41] <zspada15> type your local gateway address, <IP_ADDRESS> or something to that effect
[06:41] <soundray_> Vuen: when you create a filesystem for Linux, do it with the -c option to check for bad blocks (man mkfs)
[06:41] <Otacon22> zspada15, I haven't a router
[06:41] <jessica_> ola
[06:41] <lnxactvst> Vuen, it exercises every sector and block on the desk, so you can be sure that the thing is good, bad or dieing.
[06:41] <zspada15> Otacon22: what do you have?
[06:41] <sioux> salim that driver is in default on the kernel
[06:41] <Vuen> soundray_: mm, that's a good idea. but i'm using the text-based installer, where do i put this -c?
[06:41] <salim> I see
[06:41] <Otacon22> I am connected to a residental gateway
[06:42] <Otacon22> but not router
[06:42] <zspada15> pppoe?
[06:42] <Otacon22> no
[06:42] <Otacon22> ethernet
[06:42] <sonja> i am connected direct to the modwm and cant get it online, good luck
[06:42] <DerekS> can someone explain to me what "markauto" in aptitude does? i don't really understand
[06:42] <salim> does sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning do sth? (or eth1 or whatever your wlan device is called)
[06:42] <soundray_> Vuen: in the partitioner, on the screen where you enter the mount point, there is also a checkbox for checking bad blocks.
[06:43] <Otacon22> zspada15, it was in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:43] <Vuen> soundray_: ah, okay, i'll try that
[06:43] <Vuen> soundray_: thanks
[06:43] <morenaza> ola
[06:43] <Chimera_> The moment of truth, did i just burn another cd for trash???
[06:43] <sonja> ola jessica
[06:43] <Chimera_> Or will i get lucky and be successfull.
[06:44] <Vuen> Chimera_: boot from the cd and Check the CD for defects
[06:44] <salim> sioux: does sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning do sth? (or eth1 or whatever your wlan device is called)
[06:44] <morenaza> ola kien eres
[06:44] <sonja> Chimera_--> its Friday, thats always lucky
[06:44] <trappist> Chimera_: md5sum /dev/cdrom
[06:44] <Vuen> Chimera_: if you burned it at 8x or even 16x it's highly doubftul that there are errors. you probably just got unlucky the first time. same thing happened to me :/
[06:44] <blurfle> what's that trick to purge the conf files of already removed packages?
[06:44] <Chimera_> Vuen, either way i will find out if it works or not.
[06:44] <dutche-> Hi, in ubuntu when I install it doesnt ask me a root password, is there some default?
[06:44] <gesine> Hi i speak bad english is there also german help possibility in this program?
[06:44] <Chimera_> I burn't it a 4x :), just to make really sure.
[06:44] <Vuen> :)
[06:45] <soundray_> gesine: gehe zu #ubuntu-de
[06:45] <Vuen> dutche-: there is no root password. the root account is disabled. to sudo, you put in your normal account password.
[06:45] <sonja> gesine--> Es kann sein das es ein #ubuntu-de Hilfe gibt ?
[06:45] <Chimera_> And the md5hash matched the iso image i had. THat was my last disk, that means a trip to the shop :)
[06:45] <salim> dutche-: ubuntu doesnt use a root user, not really, if you do root operations, you will have to use "sudo *command*"
[06:45] <salim> gesine: was ist dein problem?
[06:46] <soundray_> salim: help her in the German channel please
[06:46] <Archimedes> join #linux
[06:46] <Vuen> dutche-: you can change this to have a separate root password and have sudo ask for that instead if you like. i did on mine, makes it more secure. it's just off by default so as not to confuse newbies.
[06:46] <gmvmrr> k nj
[06:46] <Vuen> of course, for anyone not new to linux it creates a lot of confusion :p
[06:46] <gmvmrr> holaaaaa
[06:46] <gmvmrr> hay alguien
[06:47] <gesine> salim: Der Bilder-Bildschirmschoner zeigt nur in der Vorschau Bilder, aber nicht wenn der Bildschirm schwarz wird (passiert auch nach 10 Minuten nicht nach 1)
[06:47] <Chimera_> lol, vuen... i have a question... why doesn't linux or ubuntu atleast speed up with hw rendering?
[06:47] <sioux> salim I am back i lost connection now i try that command
[06:47] <Vuen> Chimera_: it does...
[06:47] <Chimera_> It is so slow in Quake 3, when the same laptop in windows runs normal.
[06:47] <Vuen> Chimera_: what video card do you have?
[06:47] <variant> Chimera_: what graphics card?
[06:47] <sonja> Vuen, have you any ideas , why i can live Cd rom slax and a few others, but a fresh install and road runner direct to .. ethernet, this Linux other flavour is eth1 , and uses the USB out of the modem, my direct install of ubuntu One CD that i burned ,, dont pick it up ?
[06:48] <salim> sioux: ok, try it
[06:48] <Chimera_> Intel Integrated Graphics 5255/5855 or something real similar.
[06:48] <Vuen> Chimera_: laptop video card drivers are not typically as well supported under linux :(. for ati cards, and to a slightly lesser extend nvidia cards, it's pretty much as fast in linux as windows
[06:48] <variant> sonja: if its eth1 you should have said so, dhclient eth1
[06:48] <sioux> salim iwlist scan see only eth0 lo and sit0
[06:48] <variant> sonja: sudo dhclient eth1
[06:48] <salim> gesine: prf die einstellungen des bildschirmschoners genau, hast du wirklich eingestellt, dass der bildschirmschoner nach 1minute kommen soll? hast du vielleicht eingestellt, dass vorher schwarzer bildschirm auftauchen soll
[06:48] <variant> !german | salim
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <Chimera_> Vuen, ah, that just sucks.
[06:49] <sonja> variant THIS PC is eth1 the other UBUNTU is not online, thats why i use my second pc ?
[06:49] <salim> !deutsch
[06:49] <variant> sonja: i see
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deutsch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <gesine> salim: ja hab ich und normalerweise "faded" der ja auch so aus und wenn ich den speziellen schoner reinmach dann faded auch nix
[06:49] <sonja> sorry Sir my bad ..they are BOTH linux
[06:49] <sioux> here is my dmesh for the driver [17179710.796000]  usbcore: registered new driver zd1211rw
[06:49] <Vuen> Chimera_: yeah. :(. unfortunately linux is not quite ready for gaming yet. if you're a gamer, it's best to dual boot.
[06:49] <gesine> salim: zum beispiel der "Flurry" Bildschirmschoner funktioniert ganz normal
[06:49] <variant> salim: this is an english speaking channel only
[06:49] <Chimera_> Vuen, if it takes long time to display the install window does it mean its a bad burn?
[06:49] <variant> salim gesine this is an english speaking channel only
[06:49] <salim> gesine: sorry da kann ich dir nicht weiterhelfen, geh mal auf einen deutschen channel, den gibts anscheinend, oder geh hier: www.ubuntuusers.de
[06:49] <soundray> salim, sonja, gesine: let's not make ourselves more unpopular than we already are. Join #ubuntu-de (bin schon da)
[06:49] <sioux> salim and for the usb
[06:49] <Vuen> Chimera_: nope. it's loading the entire operating system into memory off the cd, so it's going to take a while.
[06:50] <sioux> [17179774.496000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[06:50] <gesine> variant: sorry can not speak english good i was spoken to in german by nice person sorry
[06:50] <Vuen> Chimera_: did you choose the Check CD option on the boot menu?
[06:50] <Chimera_> Vuen, well i am half gamer... I have my desktop for real Nvidia gaming ;), but i always like to know that it is up to the task if ever needed.
[06:50] <sioux> here is my usb wireless Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0586:3401 ZyXEL Communications Corp.
[06:50] <variant> gesine: np, ubuntu-de
[06:50] <variant> gesine: np, #ubuntu-de
[06:50] <Chimera_> Vuen, no, since this is my last cd and i will find out running it.
[06:51] <Chimera_> I will now.
[06:51] <blurfle> what's that trick to purge the conf files of already removed packages?
[06:51] <Chimera_> Vuen, what is the difference?
[06:51] <Vuen> Chimera_: don't do that. you're best off doing the Check CD. it won't take long
[06:51] <Chimera_> Vuen, i have been unlucky with this 6.06, always giving me trouble.
[06:51] <sioux> salim how can i see if the driver is loaded and associated to my usb wireless
[06:52] <salim> sioux: what does it show when you type "iwconfig"? which one is recognized as wireless device?
[06:52] <salim> sioux type lsmod and look whether the driver is in it or not
[06:52] <Vuen> soundray: i'm not seeing this option for checking bad blocks. i'm using the text-based alternate installer
[06:52] <Chimera_> Vuen, i got it to install by a miracle, later i reformated because i use VC++ and i can't run my dx projest on nix.
[06:52] <sioux> salim with iwconfig none are wireless and i see only eth0, lo and sit0
[06:52] <cappe___> I have now every reportory for Dappar (for amd64) still I cannot find wine for amd64.. How come??
[06:53] <salim> sioux: none is wireless? :-S
[06:53] <sonja> Variant sir , thanks ofr the help I will stop bugging people.. and just download a fresh Copy of the new Ubuntu ..seems like only I have had this problem , so i think its a bad burn perhaps, and my mistake ,, thanks for the help I hope I will not be back :c)
[06:53] <Vuen> Chimera_: that's unfortunate. 6.06 is far and wide the most stable ubuntu. it's a fantastic operating system.
[06:53] <sioux> here is the lsmod usbcore               134912  3 zd1211rw,uhci_hcd
[06:53] <Chimera_> Vuen, i did the cd check, but i doesn't complete it stays at filesystem.squashfs.
[06:53] <salim> sioux: then I'm very sorry, I don't know more about it, I had a zd1211 usb wlan stick on my old computer using fedora core 4
[06:53] <Poromenos> can someone help me with a fakeRAID setup?
[06:53] <salim> sioux it worked after many hard nights ^
[06:53] <Vuen> Chimera_: what is your dx project for? if you just program games for fun, look into using an open source multi-platform engine like Irrlicht
[06:54] <sioux> salim ndiswrapper?
[06:54] <Vuen> Chimera_: i programmed a game all summer using Irrlicht. i figured one day i'd try it in linux, and it magically worked
[06:54] <Vuen> Chimera_: multiplatform 3d engines are pretty awesome.
[06:54] <soundray> Vuen: you can switch to another console (Alt-F2) and run the formatting with a command like 'mke2fs -j -c /dev/hda9'
[06:54] <Chimera_> Vuen, lol i like it when it's installed :), but i liked 5.10 much more because it was a 1 2 3 install, not a<PHONE_NUMBER>11 withthe current 6.06 version.
[06:54] <Chimera_> Vuen, yes but i am learning.
[06:54] <Chimera_> I was told to learn something from an api, not an engine.
[06:55] <Vuen> Chimera_: hmm, i think you're just unlucky. i started with 5.10 as well, and i had a lot less problems installing 6.06, as did most people
[06:55] <Poromenos> fakeRAID, anyone?
[06:55] <Vuen> Chimera_: it's probably not frozen at the squashfs step. the cd is 600 megs, it takes a long time to check it all
[06:55] <Chimera_> Vuen, i prefer G**** not irlich. G is the letter that starts this cool enigne.
[06:55] <nolimitsoya> Poromenos, what about it?
[06:55] <Vuen> Chimera_: just let it sit for a while
[06:55] <MenZa> If I were to install drivers for a PCMCIA wlan card (802.11g), where would I start?
[06:55] <Poromenos> nolimitsoya: i have partitioned the /mapper, but the partitions don't show up so i can format them
[06:56] <cappe___> I find libwine but not wine for AMD64. I have every reportory, why cant i find wine??
[06:56] <trappist> cappe___: wine runs win32 (as in 32 bit) windows apps.
[06:57] <Chimera_> It said it finished with 0 checksum failes.
[06:57] <cappe___> are there any programs that run win programs with an amd 64 processor?
[06:57] <Vuen> Chimera_: rejoice!
[06:57] <MenZa> !wireless
[06:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:57] <Chimera_> Vuen, does that mean its ok, but still GUI install takes forever, ill let it run for a whiel.
[06:57] <Nikolas> wine? I preffer Mountain Dew
[06:57] <trappist> cappe___: you can run wine in a 32bit chroot.  it takes some work, but that's what I do.
[06:58] <Chimera_> Vuen, see why i wanted to check if it installed :)
[06:58] <Chimera_> I knew the disk was fine :P
[06:58] <navaladi> hi all..I have totem with no sound
[06:58] <Vuen> Chimera_: how much memory does the laptop have? i'm in the middle of a laptop install as well, and i'm not using the desktop install cd because this thing doesn't have enough memory to start it up
[06:58] <cappe___> ok thx for your time and answers , catch u later
[06:58] <Poromenos> does anyone know why the partitions don't appear anywhere when i create them with fdisk in a fakeRAID setup?
[06:58] <navaladi> I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[06:59] <navaladi> i have installed xine & sound working but totem video is comming without sound
[06:59] <Vuen> Chimera_: the cd will take forever to start up, even on a fast computer, that's normal. one of the downsides of having it not scary like a text-based installer is that it's slowwwwww
[07:03] <salim> ok gotta go, sry, bye
[07:04] <navaladi> does any one have idea
[07:04] <jrib> navaladi: does this happen with all videos?  Does totem every give you sound?
[07:05] <jrib> navaladi: try  totem /etc/skel/Examples/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg' as a test
[07:06] <Poromenos> is ext3 or reiserfs better?
[07:06] <Drfalkor> can someone look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297001 ? :)
[07:06] <teclo> When I type sensors, I get "Unable to find i2c bus information;For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and libsensors" ... but /sys is there and libsensors too
[07:06] <teclo> ... any idea ?
[07:06] <izm99> hi all.  having trouble using "import javax.*" on eclipse.  Can anyone help?
[07:07] <Vuen> argh
[07:07] <what_if> teclo: have you run sensors-detect yet?
[07:07] <Vuen> i'd really like it if the alternate install cd could check the hard drive
[07:07] <Vuen> i have no other way of checking this hard drive
[07:07] <spyderpie> Hi everyone ... I am having trouble with cedega .. anyone here help?  (i tried the cedega channel - no luck)
[07:07] <Poromenos> which is better, ext3 or reiserfs?
[07:08] <Vuen> does anyone know what boot options i can give it to do this for me?
[07:08] <Vuen> Poromenos: depends what you're using it for. for an ordinary desktop computer, use ext3
[07:08] <Poromenos> Vuen: what's reiserfs better for?
[07:08] <teclo> what_if: several times
[07:08] <Vuen> Poromenos: servers that handle millions of files
[07:08] <teclo> what_if: look what it says:
[07:08] <teclo>  Sorry, no chips were detected.
[07:08] <teclo>  Either your sensors are not supported, or they are
[07:08] <teclo>  connected to an I2C bus adapter that we do not support.
[07:08] <Poromenos> Vuen: ah, ok, thanks a lot :)
[07:09] <Vuen> Poromenos: no problem. ext3 is basically ext2+journaling. ext2 is ridiculously stable, and so is ext3.
[07:09] <frailty> hi
[07:09] <mariusk> i'd like to enable a user to have automatic login with gdm setup, but the program won't save the changes ... which textfile does gdm setup modify?
[07:10] <roryy> mariusk: I think it's /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:10] <zero742> i think I just had a semi-major oopsy
[07:11] <holzmodem> hi, i compiled successfull the network manager CVS, now i want to compile the openVPN Plugin... but the configure script searches for the Network Manager Package... how can i Create a DEV Package of the Network Manager (CVS)
[07:11] <zero742> what does it mean when it says "failed to initialize HAL"?
[07:11] <syntaxx> whats the name of the gnome torrent in packages?
[07:11] <Vuen> syntaxx: apt-cache search torrent
[07:12] <mariusk> roryy, found it .. thanks!
[07:13] <zero742> does anyone know what it means when ubuntu gives the message "failed to initialize HAL"?
[07:13] <Vuen> zero742: hardware acceleration afaik
[07:14] <zero742> thanks
[07:14] <jvolkman> no
[07:14] <zero742> when I booted up, i was also told I have a whole bunch of damaged sectors too
[07:14] <jvolkman> HAL is the hardware abstraction layer
[07:15] <zero742> that makes a bit more sense
[07:15] <Mus1cman> Humm, ok, Ive been looking at the FAQ all day to increase my screen resolution.. ive tried the steps it showed, but ive made no progress regardless =/
[07:15] <zero742> either way, is there a way to fix bad sectors?
[07:15] <zero742> it won't boot up to graphical ubuntu by itself
[07:16] <jvolkman> fix bad sectors?
[07:16] <zero742> sure
[07:16] <zero742> i think that would help
[07:16] <zero742> that seems to be where it was getting stuck while booting
[07:16] <Minty> I have to reinstall grub on my HD as  had to do a fixmbr in XP, /dev/hda1 is XP /dev/hda2 is my ubuntu, from the live CD what is the command to reinstall grub ?
[07:17] <jvolkman> do yourself a favor and get a new drive
[07:17] <jvolkman> =)
[07:17] <zero742> seriosuly?
[07:17] <zero742> this is like 2 months old??
[07:17] <jvolkman> bad sectors are usually a sign of hardware failure
[07:17] <jvolkman> well then you've got a warranty
[07:17] <zero742> crap
[07:17] <bus-mechanic> yea bad sectors = hd fail
[07:17] <zero742> and no money for a new one until it gets back
[07:17] <zero742> crapola
[07:18] <zero742> will seagate actually accept that as a valid reason for returning it?
[07:18] <jvolkman> zero742, manufacturers will usually send you the new one before you send the old one back
[07:18] <Vuen> argh
[07:18] <jvolkman> most definitely
[07:18] <zero742> excellent
[07:18] <zero742> thanks
[07:18] <Vuen> speaking of bad drives, this laptop is giving me an installation erro
[07:18] <Vuen> r
[07:18] <Vuen> i/o error while installing
[07:18] <Vuen> and i can't find an option for it to just check the drive
[07:18] <zero742> well...I suppose that will be me having fun the rest of the day
[07:18] <Vuen> how can i make it check the drive?
[07:18] <zero742> thanks all
[07:18] <jvolkman> zero742, you should backup anything important now
[07:19] <roryy> !tell Minty about grub
[07:19] <zero742> i just did, as soon as I was able to get back into ubuntu
[07:19] <Vuen> !grup|Minty
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <Vuen> !grub|Minty
[07:19] <ubotu> Minty: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:19] <zidoen> hmm, i've tried to get "Network Connection" to work, i got "SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device" when pressing it, but when i go to properties and manually write "eth0" it works somewhat ok.. problem now is that apt-get doesn't want to use the internet connection, but asks for a cd.. anybody know how to make it use the internet again? :P
[07:19] <bus-mechanic> is it wired or wireless?
[07:20] <zidoen> bus-mechanic: tried both, atm i'm using wired
[07:20] <bus-mechanic> so you're saying eth0 works if you access it from cli?
[07:20] <mcphail> zidoen: use "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and put a "#" in front of the line with the cdrom
[07:21] <MenZa> I'd like to install drivers for my generic 802.11g wireless PCMCIA card, but I have no idea where to start. Can anyone point me in the right direction :\?
[07:21] <zidoen> mcphail: impressive :) thanks
[07:21] <mcphail> zidoen: run "sudo apt-get update" after this and it _should_ use you net connection
[07:22] <[set] > anyone know why i get a permission denied when i type in su
[07:22] <Chimera_> Does anyone know what DTP means in the imunisations jargon? I am puzzled to know, even though it's off topic :)
[07:22] <[set] > i enter the pass correctly
[07:22] <Shaezsche> im trying to change the permissions of a directory and its just hanging
[07:22] <Shaezsche> been hanging for 15 minutes, ive tried this twice
[07:22] <Shaezsche> its after i click apply to all files in directory that it happens
[07:22] <roryy> [set] : i think 'su' requires the root password; try 'sudo' instead (that requires your user's password)
[07:23] <scott_> hey guys, can anyone help me out with something?
[07:23] <Otacon22> exist a graphical program to set start commands at specifics time?
[07:23] <jvolkman> [set] : try 'sudo su'
[07:23] <Vuen> [set] : su requires the root password, which is disabled in ubuntu. use sudo -i
[07:23] <[set] > oh ok i see
[07:24] <bus-mechanic> you can set the root pw
[07:24] <bus-mechanic> and then use su
[07:24] <jorgp> Otacon22, cron is the best
[07:24] <jorgp> Otacon22, but its not graphica
[07:24] <apokryphos> bus-mechanic: please do not recommend that for new users. Ubuntu uses and recommends sudo.
[07:24] <Otacon22> uff...
[07:24] <apokryphos> [set] : check the FAQ for this stuff :)
[07:24] <apokryphos> !root
[07:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:25] <navaladi> jrib - problem solved thx
[07:25] <Mus1cman> can someone help me with my screen resolution?
[07:25] <roryy> Otacon22: there seem to be some graphical editors for crontab in the repositories -- i see gcrontab and kcrontab
[07:25] <scott_> hey guys im having a problem with getting a program to run
[07:25] <apokryphos> Mus1cman: have you checked the FAQ?
[07:25] <Mus1cman> apo: yes
[07:25] <Vuen> [set] : as far as using a root terminal though, you're better off sudoing everything. doing things in a root terminal doesn't leave any nice audit trail. it seems like a pain to sudo at first, but you'll get used to it.
[07:25] <roryy> Otacon22: I have no idea if they are any good
[07:25] <Mus1cman> Ive done as it showed, ive yet to make progress =/
[07:26] <apokryphos> Mus1cman: well let us know the problem, and what card you've got
[07:26] <scott_> can someone help me out with getting this program to run
[07:26] <apokryphos> !helpme
[07:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:26] <Vuen> !ask|scott_
[07:26] <ubotu> scott_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:26] <TheReconHunter> Hey, for soem reason, the maximum resolution i can get is 1024x728, but i want the supported 1280x1024 that my monitor supports. anyone know how i can do this?
[07:26] <snowshoefox> can anyone point me to a good source of the standard library documentation for GNU?
[07:26] <snowshoefox> !std
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about std - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <apokryphos> TheReconHunter: have you read teh FAQ?
[07:27] <eugman> Is there a way I can attach a description to a wav file?
[07:27] <crimsun> snowshoefox: do you have manpages-dev installed?
[07:27] <roryy> scott_: you need to be more specific
[07:27] <snowshoefox> no
[07:27] <keeb> good afternoon :)
[07:27] <Mus1cman> Ive been trying to get my resolutoin to 1280x1024, yet it still does not have that option, and my card is 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller by Intel
[07:27] <scott_> i installed maple 10 on ubuntu dapper, and the whole installation went fine. its intalled in my home folder but i dont know how to actually run the program
[07:27] <apokryphos> Mus1cman: if you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select that option it doesn't work? Are you sure?
[07:27] <keeb> Mus1: did you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then restart gdm ?
[07:27] <Chimera_> Vuen, lol, even though the disk has 0 errors it still freezes.
[07:28] <TheReconHunter> apokryphos, no i diddnt, is there a link to it?
[07:28] <apokryphos> TheReconHunter: yes, in the Channel topic
[07:28] <apokryphos> !faq
[07:28] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[07:28] <apokryphos> or there
[07:28] <Vuen> Chimera_: yeah, the hardware is probably just not good enough to run the livecd. running an entire operating system without a hard drive takes a lot of ram :p
[07:28] <snowshoefox> !manpages-dev
[07:28] <Vuen> Chimera_: do a server install instead, then apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[07:28] <ubotu> manpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.34-1 (edgy), package size 1183 kB, installed size 2908 kB
[07:28] <Mus1cman> keeb: yeah, but im not sure which driver to use.
[07:28] <apokryphos> Mus1cman: vesa should be good enough
[07:28] <Mus1cman> thats what it has
[07:29] <Mus1cman> ill go through it again to make sure
[07:29] <roryy> scott_: do you know where it's installed itself in your home dir?
[07:29] <keeb> make sure to choose that resolution in monitor setup
[07:29] <Chimera_> Vuen, lol thats a bit too much..
[07:29] <Mus1cman> video card bus identifier, leave that the way it is?
[07:29] <scott_> its in my home directory under the folder "maple10"
[07:30] <scott_> /home/scott/maple10
[07:30] <roryy> scott_: ok, and if you look in that folder? (e.g., using Places -> Home Folder -> maple10)
[07:30] <jrib> scott_: you should have maple10/bin/maple  (or at least this is how maple 9.5 does it)
[07:31] <Vuen> Chimera_: nah, it should be easy. boot from the cd, then hit escape, then type server
[07:31] <novaterata> does anyone know how get another wine program to recognize ie4linux is installed
[07:31] <Vuen> Chimera_: it will install a base cli system, from which you can apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <scott_> ok yea i see that
[07:31] <Vuen> or ubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <novaterata> like andale's lister pro for example?
[07:31] <Poromenos> i am having trouble with a fakeraid setup, should i just use software raid instead?
[07:31] <Vuen> Chimera_: i'm doing exactly the same thing as we speak. i also have a laptop that's too old to run the livecd.
[07:32] <Chimera_> lol, 2.4ghz, 256 mb ram, 40 gb hdd.
[07:32] <Vuen> Chimera_: and, ironically, i JUST burned a bad alternate cd, and i'm stuck with no blank cds left, so i have to use the desktop cd i have
[07:32] <jrib> scott_: you can double click on that, or run it in a terminal
[07:32] <Vuen> Chimera_: are you sure you're not, like, alternate me?
[07:32] <Vuen> bizzaro me
[07:32] <Chimera_> lol wtf?
[07:32] <Vuen> Chimera_: it's just eerie is all
[07:32] <Vuen> lol
[07:32] <Chimera_> I don't understand.
[07:32] <Vuen> nevermind
[07:33] <Chimera_> ah... !!! LOL
[07:33] <Vuen> hahaha
[07:33] <Mus1cman> ok, I went through the xorg config thing again, was I supposed to restart something?
[07:33] <Chimera_> No, we are living in the same universe, it has to be another one.
[07:33] <pder> does anyone know of any VOIP software for ubuntu that is also crossplatform?  I'd also like to be able to use hardware such as a usb phone, or adapter that connects an ordinary phone.
[07:33] <Chimera_> The "dark" one.
[07:33] <Vuen> lol
[07:33] <MenZa> How do I mount my cdrom drive?
[07:33] <eugman> Is there a way I can attach a description to a wav file?
[07:33] <Chimera_> So, do you have any idea to what is happening?
[07:34] <scott_> is there any way that i can run it with like the GUI that it runs on with say a mac or windows, instead of running it in a terminal?
[07:34] <Vuen> Chimera_: nope. some systems just can't run the livecd :(. try the server install. i'm going to try it right now
[07:34] <Poromenos> is there a guide on software raid?
[07:34] <scott_> cuz when i double click it it either says run or run in terminal, but when i click run by itself, nothing happens
[07:34] <jrib> eugman: nautilus lets you add notes to file if you right click and go to properties, don't know much about wav files in particular
[07:34] <Mus1cman> whats the command to restart gdm?
[07:34] <Vuen> Mus1cman: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:34] <jvolkman> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:34] <Mus1cman> thanks
[07:34] <Kingsqueak> Mus1cman: all system startup scripts are in /etc/init.d/
[07:34] <jrib> scott_: ok, type '/home/scott/maple10/bin/maple' in a terminal and tell me the output
[07:34] <Mus1cman> ah, ok
[07:35] <Kingsqueak> Mus1cman: generally if you run any of them they tell you what options they take, if they are written right
[07:36] <jrib> scott_: if it is long, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:36] <scott_> a version of maple comes up and runs
[07:36] <scott_> but its all in text
[07:36] <scott_> and no graphics like the mac one i run on my friends mac
[07:37] <jrib> scott_: oh right, you want xmaple, not maple :)
[07:37] <scott_> oh
[07:37] <scott_> ok
[07:37] <scott_> lol
[07:37] <Chimera_> Vuen, lol, i don't think you comprende. I ran it once, i had all these problems before, and i found a solution. Burn it slower and it went blazing fast installing. Now the same trick isn't working, should i power up the laptop?
[07:37] <jrib> scott_: you may have some maple's running in the background now that you can't see... feel free to kill them
[07:37] <watson540> does nyone here know why my stsem would hard lock after switching from a tty to an already running X session?
[07:38] <Vuen> Chimera_: hmm. yeah, i really have no idea what the problem is :(
[07:38] <Vuen> watson540: are you running beryl?
[07:38] <watson540> Vuen:: yes.
[07:38] <Chimera_> Since life cd came to my life it has been a pain, also in my desktop it is the same. My desktop is gaming.
[07:38] <Vuen> watson540: there you have it.
[07:38] <watson540> Vuen:: and aiglx with the free radeon drivers
[07:38] <Vuen> watson540: yep.
[07:38] <watson540> it never did it running xgl and fglx though
[07:39] <Vuen> watson540: thats a long-standing bug in beryl+aiglx
[07:39] <Kingsqueak> watson540: yeah that's all super alpha stuff, it's not nearly stable yet
[07:39] <Vuen> watson540: doesn't happen in xgl
[07:39] <watson540> I see
[07:39] <scott_> ok
[07:39] <watson540> thats a big sacrifice to make giving up my tty's  :), I'll keep up with svnhopefully it will be addressed
[07:39] <watson540> anyone know if there has been a bug report filed?
[07:39] <rambo3> !lanchpad
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <rambo3> !launchpad
[07:40] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[07:40] <Vuen> watson540: i'm sure there's a bug report. go reply to it, complain, go to #beryl-dev and complain. it will get fixed eventually
[07:40] <Poromenos> why is there no LAMP option in the edgy server cd?
[07:40] <Vuen> watson540: or you could fix it yourself :)
[07:40] <gnomefreak> watson540: would be better asked in #ubuntu-xgl and beryl bugs are not reported on launchpad
[07:40] <rambo3> o beryl
[07:40] <scott_> is there a way for me to be able to get xmaple with ubuntu?
[07:40] <jrib> scott_: don't you have it in that same folder?
[07:41] <scott_> oooh
[07:41] <watson540> well i could always switch back to XGL , but man I reall y think this aiglx is about 10% faster/smoother
[07:41] <snowshoefox> Anyone have a link to a commercial linux developer environment?
[07:41] <scott_> ok cool, it works now
[07:41] <scott_> thank you
[07:41] <godmachine81> watson540:: aiglx is a lot faster than xgl+compiz
[07:41] <jrib> scott_: np, you can create a launcher for it in your menu now
[07:42] <Poromenos> why is there no LAMP option in the edgy server cd?
[07:42] <scott_> how? lol
[07:42] <Skyrail> Apache is driving me around the bend, I can't find anything obvious to do with trying to setup a server now
[07:42] <Skyrail> I hate being a linux noob,
[07:42] <MenZa> Can anyone help me troubleshoot my wifi?
[07:42] <novaterata> did you try en.wikibooks.org
[07:42] <ambimom> skyrail:  check lugradio site....they did show on apache servers
[07:43] <jrib> scott_: right click on the ubuntu icon by your menu and hit "edit menu", then add a new item and the command to run is '/home/scott/maple10/bin/xmaple'
[07:43] <rambo3> Poromenos, join #ubuntu-server
[07:43] <godmachine81> watson540:: endo602
[07:43] <Skyrail> ambimom: er, ok :)
[07:43] <watson540> 233...........................................
[07:43] <ROBOd> hello guys
[07:44] <watson540> godmachine81:: yummy :)
[07:44] <ambimom> skyrail: lugradio has lots of good info; as does linux reality
[07:44] <ROBOd> i want to upgrade two ubuntu installs, over the same connection
[07:44] <watson540> perky
[07:44] <ROBOd> i have done so with the first
[07:44] <ROBOd> but i want to speed up things on the second system
[07:44] <godmachine81> yea.. some yellow school buses too
[07:44] <ambimom> Robod...don't upgrade...do fresh install...
[07:44] <ROBOd> i want to skip the downloading part
[07:44] <ROBOd> upgrade went properly
[07:44] <watson540> godmachine81:: lol, send some my way too
[07:45] <ambimom> robod:  you must be the one, ROFL
[07:45] <ROBOd> ambimom: how do i copy the downloaded packages onto the second system?
[07:45] <godmachine81> watson540:: i dont have any problems switching between tty's and X while running beryl
[07:45] <TheReconHunter> Hey. I just tried to correct my screen resolution, but when i did, the screen would flicker and bring me back to the login screen. and now, it seems as if nvidia support is gone too
[07:45] <ambimom> robod:  try partimage
[07:45] <ROBOd> ambimom: define "properly" :). i didn't
[07:45] <Vuen> ROBOd: for future reference, the best way to do that would have been to download the edgy alternate cd, which can be used as an upgrade
[07:45] <Skyrail> ambimom: ok, I'll give it a shot, I'm just not sure what I have to configure, I've looked through the file a couple of times and failed
[07:45] <godmachine81> watson540:: what video chipset you got?
[07:45] <ROBOd> Vuen: i have already done that, of course
[07:45] <ROBOd> Vuen: but there are more downloads to run
[07:45] <Vuen> ROBOd: oh.
[07:46] <ROBOd> *packages to be downloaded
[07:46] <godmachine81> watson540:: i have heard that beryl doesnt play well with nvidia, if even at all..
[07:46] <watson540> godmachine81:: it's probably in the video driver, im running an ati radeon 9800 aiw using radeon drivers
[07:46] <ROBOd> Vuen: how to cache those debs/
[07:46] <Vuen> ROBOd: um, hold on
[07:46] <godmachine81> ROBOd:: are there like 30 packages held back?
[07:46] <scott_> thank you jrib
[07:46] <iter> ROBOd: scp /var/cache/apt over to new machine
[07:46] <ROBOd> i'm using sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade
[07:46] <godmachine81> ROBOd:: if its a bunch of python stuff i know what to do.. just sudo aptitude dist-upgrade  accept the resolution
[07:46] <ROBOd> yes
[07:47] <slick_nick> gents, noob question: apparently i have too many partitions on my hdd to be able to create another one, so i'm working without swap space right now. i have read i can add a swap *file*, but other than that, do i have any other options?
[07:47] <ROBOd> iter: i did that, hehe
[07:47] <ROBOd> iter: for some reason, it still wants to download the debs!
[07:47] <iter> ROBOd: did you move stuff from /var/cache/apt/archives to ../ ?
[07:47] <[sYn] > Does anyone know a way of getting only the programs running on the screen the panel is on to show in the window list? (I'm running in twinview btw..)
[07:47] <ROBOd> iter: yes
[07:47] <ROBOd> iter: however, i didn't copy the *.bin
[07:48] <ROBOd> ONLY archives/*
[07:48] <Vuen> ROBOd: are you sure it wants to download them? it probably just shows the total size the debs will take up. does it actually start the downloads, or does it ask you whether it can download them?
[07:48] <ROBOd> Vuen: i agreed, it started downloading
[07:48] <ROBOd> i am VERY sure
[07:48] <ROBOd> and the servers are quite slow...
[07:48] <godmachine81> ROBOd:: the *.bin is for the specific system.. they get updated everything there is an apt-get update  done anyway
[07:48] <iter> ROBOd: hmm sounds like what I would've done
[07:48] <Vuen> ROBOd: :(
[07:48] <Vuen> ROBOd: that's very strange.
[07:49] <godmachine81> ROBOd:: so you have the install up and running but just have a few packages that need upgraded. right?
[07:49] <ROBOd> my internet connection can download as fast as 150 kb/s
[07:49] <ROBOd> (1.5 mbps0
[07:49] <ROBOd> godmachine81: yeah
[07:49] <ROBOd> and i want to skip the download for those debs
[07:49] <ROBOd> i just want to install them directly, eh
[07:49] <ambimom> robod: vuen:  edgy is strange....it never worked right for me...I upgrade and fresh install..neither worked right
[07:49] <godmachine81> ROBOd:: do you have the packages on the cd?
[07:49] <Rolando2424> hello
[07:50] <ambimom> hello rolando
[07:50] <iter> ROBOd: try running apt-get check first
[07:50] <ambimom> phone brb
[07:50] <ROBOd> godmachine81: i have those "default" in ubuntu-6.10-alternate AND those new from the internet, on HDD
[07:50] <Rolando2424> I have a question about the edgy
[07:50] <godmachine81> cp all the new ones to a dir
[07:50] <ROBOd> iter: i ran apt-cache check
[07:50] <ROBOd> iter: and apt-cache gencaches
[07:50] <godmachine81> and do sudo dpkg -i /path/to/debs/*
[07:50] <iter> haha dang
[07:50] <Rolando2424> When I try to run the live cd it begins to send bugs about buffer error on logical something
[07:50] <Otacon22> there is something for crypting that is'nt gpg?
[07:51] <ROBOd> godmachine81: nah, that's not precisely my coup of tea
[07:51] <Chimera_> Vuen, hey thanks to all your help, i will go to uni, i will be back later on, hoping you are here :) With a batch of new cds :)
[07:51] <Rolando2424> I'll see if I can find the exact words
[07:51] <Kingsqueak> Otacon22: you could use MIME/SSL
[07:51] <godmachine81> well if you just downloaded the debs then you probably dont have the packagelist info you need to do it with apt or aptitude
[07:51] <Otacon22> Kingsqueak, for crypting files i was saying
[07:52] <godmachine81> not sure what your cup of tea is. but it will work out fine when you decide to start using the network
[07:52] <Kingsqueak> Otacon22: I would just stick with gpg
 there is something for crypting that is'nt gpg?
[07:52] <Rolando2424> [171799702.068000]  Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 322225
[07:52] <pontusen> heya. Is any burning app included w/ ubuntu?
[07:52] <cbgb> hi *, anyone around who has lirc knowledge?
[07:52] <Pelo> pontusen,  several
[07:52] <Rolando2424> It just continues to give that error, only changing the numbers
[07:52] <Pelo> depending on what you want to do
[07:52] <pontusen> Pelo, preinstalled?
[07:53] <godmachine81> pontusen:: there arent several pre installed