[07:35] <domino14> still there. what does <defunct> mean?
[07:36] <druid-tim> 't i don't know what to say
 means non-responsive
[07:36] <domino14> is there some sort of stronger kill command, like nuke or annihilate
[07:36] <Rat409> probly a zombie process
[07:37] <Rat409> or defunct=stopped?
[07:37] <amenado> domino14-> yes shutdown
[07:37] <druid-tim> domino: not really, but there are faster ways to reboot, sudo init 3 then init 5 or alt+ctrl+backspace
[07:37] <cypha> can someone answer some soundcard questions?
[07:37] <cypha> ...actually a microphone question?
[07:37] <domino14> druid-tim what are those commands
[07:38] <astro76> druid-tim: not in ubuntu or debian, redhat uses 3 and 5 runlevels
[07:38] <astro76> ubuntu just uses 2
[07:38] <tarelerulz> I am using gtk-recodmydes and I am looking in the tmp where it says it makes the movie and I don't see anything. I see tmp.svkual5473 files that is mime type application/octe-stream could that be a tmp file that is use to store the movie
[07:39] <domino14> man what the hell is wrong with my computer
[07:39] <druid-tim> domino: init sets the run level . 3 is non-graphical , meaning kills all graphical programs, 5  brings it back to normal . alt+ctrl+backspace restarts x server which in short does the same thing
[07:39] <domino14> the cp command is hanging and ic ant even kill it
[07:39] <billy12> i removed a wifi card and added a wired nic, the wifi was eth3, but the new nic is eth4, how do i make my new interface eth3
[07:41] <cypha> how can i get to my "my documents" from my ntfs?
[07:41] <harris> guys how can I install the glib and gtk+
[07:41] <cypha> it won't let me see the files
[07:41] <cypha> (and by the way, sometimes it doesn't mount on startup)
[07:41] <karlito> fun, I found some simple exemple of cross-plaform programming language (python by exemple) so I can learn a language to administer ubuntu and win32. propritery language been a pain.
[07:41] <harris> guys how can I install the glib and gtk+ ?
[07:42] <Rat409> !udev | billy12
[07:44] <druid-tim> harris: they have lib in front like libgtk2... etc
[07:44] <Rat409> billy12: google linux staic udev rules bedtime here sorry
[07:44] <druid-tim> harris: use tab to compelte the rest
[07:44] <Rat409> static
[07:44] <Rat409> darn typo
[07:44] <Rat409> night/morning all
[07:46] <tarelerulz>  Rat409
[07:46] <rinovan> how to upgrade to 8.04 from 6.06
[07:46] <Flannel> !upgrade | rinovan
[07:48] <billy12> Rat409 thnx
[07:49] <domino14_> hardy is giving me some real issues here -- nautilus won't restart, the cp process can't be killed, and when i tried to restart the computer it couldnt shut down everything, i had to press the power button
[07:49] <druid-tim> domino: I imagine that you have a bad install. just a guess
[07:50] <crazy_bus> I'm really sorry to ask again, but I think I lost the file where I wrote a command down.  But how do I check see what outgoing and incoming internet connections my computer has?
[07:50] <druid-tim> ifconfig
[07:50] <cypha> i'm gonna get out of ubuntu just cuz everyone i ask for help makes fun of me that i'm using ubuntu!
[07:51] <yamanickill> cypha: is that a good reason not to use an OS?
[07:51] <cypha> well, considering i can't get it fixed, cuz no one will help me cuz they make fun of me or don't know how
[07:51] <psypher246> hey everyone. i'm having trouble trying to install parallels on hardy. anything special i need to do. i have followed all the help bout linux headers and changing from dash to sh but nonw of the help applies to me
[07:51] <neil_d> hi, is there a python serial module installed as standard in ubuntu ?
[07:52] <yamanickill> cypha: there is a plethora of dedicated ubuntu geeks who can help you at the ubuntuforums
[07:52] <msshams> pestkam: when i run this command: sudo apt-get install portmap nfs-common. apt-get says: Package nfs-common has no installation candidate
[07:52] <domino14_> druid-tim: a bad install?
[07:52] <domino14_> it was a fresh install from the cd..
[07:52] <cypha> who likes being helped in not-realtime
[07:52] <msshams> i don't edit /etc/apt/sources.list until now
[07:52] <cypha> =/
[07:52] <domino14_> i burned the cd image from the website
[07:52] <bazhang> cypha, the answers are not always available right away
[07:52] <druid-tim> domino: was the cd downloaded? maybe it got corrupted.
[07:52] <domino14_> i'm trying to do cp -av now, to copy files from my firewire HD
[07:53] <Shadow420> domino14_ is the cd from caniacol or is it a burned cd you made
[07:53] <Flannel> msshams: pastebin your sources.list, since its missing some key components
[07:53] <domino14_> druid-tim yes i downloaded the cd, corrupted ?  how could it have passed checksums or run programs with corrupted data?
[07:53] <druid-tim> domino : check the checksums
[07:53] <domino14_> cp -av is completely hanging after two files
[07:53] <druid-tim> domino: ok let me think
[07:53] <domino14_> how can i do that?
[07:53] <Shadow420> domino14_  you may have a bad burned CD
[07:54] <pestkam> msshams:  please can you run command
[07:54] <domino14_> but how is it possible that a bad burned cd could install a whole operating system
[07:54] <msshams> pestkam: when i try to run apt-get search it says: Invalid operation search
[07:54] <cypha> bazhang, i understand, i was just hoping to find someone that happened to know
[07:54] <druid-tim> domino: stranger things have happened to me.
[07:55] <Shadow420> domino14_  it's possible it's happened to me I tried to install DSL and it kept hanging on me
[07:55] <pestkam> msshams:  please can you run command ... sudo apt-cashe search nfs-common... and say .. see or not see .. in list your packege
[07:55] <astro76> msshams: apt-cache search, but I prefer aptitude search
[07:55] <domino14_> ive used this firewire hd with gutsy back in the day, and it never gave me any problems
[07:55] <domino14_> when i burned the cd i also checked an option to verify the integrity of the cd
[07:55] <pestkam> apt-cache search
[07:56] <bazhang> cypha, I have asked many times for help on things and people just do not know; in those cases I use the search words such as ubuntu hardy skype bug and get either launchpad bug reports or ubuntuforums links that are helpful
[07:56] <Shadow420> domino14_ yea you could have a bad install cd try reburning it at a slower rate and if that doesn't work request a free cd
[07:56] <cypha> lol...bazhang...ur way more advanced than me
[07:56] <cypha> u can't find issues cuz u probably haven't figured them out yourself
[07:56] <druid-tim> domino: so I think it's not currupted, but maybe something similar like bad driver maybe, do you have any non-standerd drivers?
[07:56] <cypha> i mean solutions
[07:57] <aboallam> please help,i have a problem with restarting apache2 when i try to restart apache2 it show me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/13242/
[07:57] <bazhang> cypha, 99% of answers are a combo of either the bot or google and ubuntuforums/launchpad
[07:57] <cypha> i can't find solutions, cuz i have no damn clue...and i haven't found it on google cuz my queries turn up the issue and not hte solutions
[07:57] <domino14_> druid-tim yes it asked me to install an nvidia driver
[07:57] <Shadow420> domino14_ druid-tim is right
[07:57] <cypha> i keep seing descriptions of my problem, but i JUST DON'T FIND solutions
[07:57] <cypha> even till the very last post
[07:57] <bazhang> cypha, then it is a bug and you should file it
[07:57] <o0Chris0o> hey guys I know this isnt' related but, I need help with my ingame sound using a headset. I am using wine, and my sound is real tinty, I don't know how I can get it clear..also my system sounds don't play now
[07:57] <Shadow420> domino14_ then install it that might resolve some of your problems
[07:58] <cypha> it's probably overfiled
[07:58] <domino14_> i did install it
[07:58] <cypha> but i'm sure people use skype
[07:58] <domino14_> NVIDIA accelerated graphics card
[07:58] <cypha> so smeone has to have a solution
[07:58] <domino14_> it's a "proprietary driver"
[07:58] <Shadow420> domino14_ but is it enabled
[07:58] <bazhang> cypha, getting frustrated here wont get it fixed any faster
[07:58] <domino14_> shadow420: yes it is
[07:58] <aboallam> please help,i have a problem with restarting apache2 when i try to restart apache2 it show me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/13242/
[07:58] <orangey> hey all!
[07:59] <orangey> how can I get a module to unload in hardy now?
[07:59] <druid-tim> domino: It could be the cd burned bad try burning it to an iso and ckeck the checksum to know for sure if you have the time (or re-burn the disk) and try using the nv driver instead of the nvidia one.
[07:59] <cypha> can i rest on your shoulder for a little bazhang?
[07:59] <orangey> how can I get a module to unload in hardy now? (when I suspend)
[07:59] <pestkam> cypha: sudo  apt-get update... if agane package is cannot be instaled => cheak you repository list
[07:59] <msshams> pestkam: when i run apt-cashe search nfs-common i didn't see anything
[07:59] <cypha> what's cheak mean?
[07:59] <Shadow420> domino14_ that is weird I installed it to my old p3 and I have no issues with hardy and I was using the beta at the time
[07:59] <druid-tim> domino: at least until you can rule the driver out
[07:59] <bazhang> cypha, I dont use skype; really know almost nothing about it--you might consider some other solution or being patient until a solution is found
[08:00] <cypha> pestkam, i've done sudo apt-get update, it's fine
[08:00] <cypha> why?
[08:00] <costal79> hi people
[08:00] <aboallam> please help,i have a problem with restarting apache2 when i try to restart apache2 it show me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/13242/
[08:00] <tv7497> cypha : dude u have some problwm with skype
[08:00] <domino14_> druid-tim: well i havent tried copying it with the driver disabled
[08:00] <costal79> I'm trying to download ubuntu desktop 64 bits
[08:00] <costal79> but the md5sum
[08:00] <costal79> it's a lot different
[08:00] <cypha> what if another program has a mci problem too?
[08:01] <costal79> does anybody has the md5sum
[08:01] <costal79> for 64 bits ?
[08:01] <orangey> How can I get hardy to unload/reload modules?
[08:01] <cky> costal79: Yes. Desktop or alternate?
[08:01] <ealx> HI, from when I upgraded to hardy my ubuntu box, the numeric keyboard doesn't write and some shortcut as shift+canc doesn't do
[08:01] <costal79> desktop
[08:01] <cypha> in fact, when i run amarok, and i press the X to send it to the system tray, i get some sound error and cannot hear sound from there on, until i restart
[08:01] <orangey> bah. how can I get it to unload/reload modules *with suspend*?
[08:01] <cky> costal79: fc43f665ba51c4be0d95c011aefef45d *ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[08:01] <astro76> costal79: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/MD5SUMS
[08:01] <cypha> i dunno if that's related to my mic problem (while my sound is working)
[08:01] <costal79> yep I knew that
[08:02] <costal79> that's what I'm saying
[08:02] <pestkam> cypha: i can send my /etc/apt/soururses.list on your e-mail.
[08:02] <costal79> the md5sum is different from there
[08:02] <costal79> also I've tried another mirros
[08:02] <costal79> mirrors
[08:02] <cypha> what does that do pest?
[08:02] <cypha> (sorry, cypha=n00b)
[08:02] <costal79> and the md5sum is different
[08:02] <Shadow420> pestkam > !paste
[08:02] <cky> costal79: Do you have BitTorrent? If so, just re-torrent your .iso.
[08:03] <yamanickill> i'm have a problem, i'm trying to install "terminator" and it comes up with this error "sh: msgfmt: not found            Error while running msgfmt"
[08:03] <cky> costal79: If the .iso is mostly the same as the "good" copy, then it shouldn't take too long to sync up the rest of it.
[08:03] <pestkam> Shadow420: !hui ?
[08:03] <costal79> the strange is that I've been trying with different mirros and I'm getting the same I'm wondering if the md5sum in the webpage is wrong
[08:03] <cypha> fine, ubuntu 1, cypha 0...i'm very sleepy
[08:03] <bazhang> pestkam you could also paste.ubuntu.com for c-ypha
[08:03] <cypha> goodnight
[08:03] <costal79> this is what I'm getting 34dc27fd30af4c91f921038b6507e480
[08:03] <Shadow420> !paste |  pestkam
[08:03] <astro76> costal79: the web page is definitely correct
[08:04] <costal79> mmm
[08:04] <cky> costal79: Yeah. You should re-torrent your .iso, I reckon.
[08:04] <pestkam> it sucks
[08:04] <costal79> I'm using wget from different mirrors
[08:04] <domino14_> how do i check to see if my checksums are ok
[08:04] <bazhang> !md5
[08:04] <Shadow420> pestkam it's quick and easy to use
[08:05] <pestkam> Shadow420: google doc's it quick =)
[08:05] <pestkam> *is
[08:05] <bazhang> pastebinit is quicker
[08:05] <cky> costal79: Are you on an Ubuntu or Debian system?
[08:05] <costal79> ubuntu
[08:05] <costal79> 6.10
[08:06] <cky> costal79: Are you planning to upgrade it to 8.04? Upgrades can't use desktop image, only alternate. In which case, if you can't use BitTorrent (e.g., work firewall), you can use jigdo.
[08:06] <costal79> I want it to install it in another computer
[08:07] <astro76> cky: that's a moot point anyway, you can't go straight from 6.10 to 8.04 ;)
[08:07] <cky> astro76: True, I misread that as 6.06. :-P
[08:07] <costal79> but my point is that the blody hash is different from the website
[08:07] <astro76> cky: ah ha :)
[08:07] <costal79> does anybody has desktop 64 8.0 that can send me the hash ?
[08:08] <astro76> costal79: I do, it's the same as the website
[08:08] <bazhang> costal79, the website hash is right
[08:08] <costal79> is it 1.3G    ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[08:08] <cky> costal79: It's definitely not 1.3G. :-P
[08:09] <cky> costal79: It's supposed to be a CD image, not a DVD.
[08:09] <bazhang> cd is 1.3g?
[08:09] <astro76> costal79: it's 698 MB
[08:09] <tv7497> costal79: dude it was sme where 699 mb
[08:09] <bazhang> is this ubuntu-ultimate?
[08:09] <costal79> I'm selecting "64bit AMD and Intel computers"
[08:09] <tarelerulz> I want to record my desktop , I have try gtk-recorddes and it don't work at all,  then I istanbul and it mess as well, I find if I don't record sound they do fine .  Is any good program for combining video and sound ? if if I record them separate ?
[08:10] <tv7497> bazhang : ubuntu ultimate ???????/
[08:10] <cky> costal79: If you can't BitTorrent, you can rsync the image from an image mirror.
[08:10] <cky> costal79: In any case, both methods will allow you to download the differences between your image and the official one, without a full redownload.
[08:10] <bazhang> costal79, please pastebin sources.list
[08:11] <cky> bazhang: That's a bizarre question...what's sources.list got to do with anything?
[08:11] <costal79> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[08:11] <costal79> :P
[08:11] <bazhang> cky, want to see distro name
[08:11] <costal79> abd then I choosed 64bit AMD and Intel computers
[08:11] <udinesh5> i wan help in installinf X on rhel 5
[08:12] <astro76> udinesh5: then you are definitely in the wrong channel
[08:12] <bazhang> udinesh5, ubuntu?
[08:12] <tv7497> coastal79: dude its still 699 mb from the website that u gave
[08:12] <udinesh5> yeah i am a debian user but now breaking head with rhel lol
[08:12] <astro76> udinesh5: heh try #linux ;)
[08:12] <udinesh5> i am sorry for that
[08:13] <udinesh5> sure
[08:13] <Gnea> udinesh5: or #redhat
[08:17] <hischild>
[08:17] <domino14_> how do i find out how many bytes is the ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[08:17] <hischild> domino14_: may i ask what you need it for?
[08:18] <domino14_> im trying to see if my cd that i burned was corrupted
[08:18] <hischild> !md5 | domino14_
[08:18] <msshams> i installed ubuntu 8.04 now. when i try install nfs-common package with apt-get it says: E: Package nfs-common has no installation candidate, can anyone help me? in here?
[08:18] <domino14_> i saw that already
[08:18] <NukeSkyjumper> anyone know why amarok isn't compiled with MP4/AAC tagging support?
[08:18] <domino14_> it tells me to do dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c bytecount | md5sum
[08:18] <hischild> domino14_: that's how you check if a disc is corrupt.
[08:18] <domino14_> so im trying to figure out how big that cd is
[08:19] <hischild> domino14_: don't bother trying to figure that out. The | md5sum part gives you the md5sum of the cd, which you can check to see if it was corrupted.
[08:19] <domino14_> i need the bytecount
[08:19] <domino14_> head -c prints out all those bytes
[08:19] <domino14_> i need the entire iso
[08:19] <hischild> domino14_: why? It can still be corrupted and be the same size
[08:20] <domino14_> doesnt md5sum take into account the size
[08:20] <domino14_> i give it all the bytes with dd and then head
[08:21] <domino14_> it calculates the checksum, and then i compare it to what the web site says it is. i got that from the website
[08:21] <pestkam> msshams: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13248/
[08:21] <GBrain> hi
[08:21] <pestkam> msshams: cheak
[08:21] <hischild> domino14_: if you follow that guide on the first link you can check it just fine.
[08:22] <GBrain> can someone help me with a graphics problem?
[08:22] <hischild> GBrain: if you can explain us the problem :-)
[08:22] <GBrain> hehe yea of course.
[08:23] <GBrain> I'm trying to set the resolution of my notebook to 1400x1050
[08:23] <GBrain> but it will not work
[08:23] <astro76> domino14_: you could boot the cd and use the "check cd for defects" option
[08:23] <pestkam> msshams: sorry don't use hardy... other repository it's ok
[08:23] <hischild> GBrain: i see. And you have the drivers for your videocard? Could you tell me which one please?
[08:24] <StevenX> guys, i'm having some trouble w/ fluxbox. can someone tell me how to fix this problem? it says that my session only lasted 10 seconds. I can't copy what I get from the error msg.
[08:24] <GBrain> I have an intel card
[08:24] <GBrain> mom a tick
[08:24] <GBrain> lspci ... VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[08:25] <pavs>  how can I follow another user connected from the terminal, follow as in what he is doing.
[08:25] <GBrain> and.. I think I'm using the i810 driver.
[08:25] <astro76> pavs: the w command
[08:25] <pavs> w pts/2?
[08:26] <hischild> GBrain: ok. Can you execute this command please? ==> sudo aptitude install pastebinit && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit  (provide link in channel)
[08:26] <astro76> pavs: just w, or w user
[08:26] <mgolisch> if you want to see what the user is typing id suggest using screen or something
[08:26] <GBrain> mom a tick.
[08:26] <msshams> why ubuntu doesn't protect with super user password?
[08:26] <yacc_> I wonder why ionice -c3 requires root rights? *wonder*
[08:27] <msshams> pestkam: why don't use hardy?
[08:27] <Souler> hello
[08:27] <Souler> I need help
[08:27] <Souler> o.o
[08:28] <hischild> !ask | Souler
[08:28] <astro76> !sudo | msshams read here, or man sudo_root
[08:28] <costal79> people does anybody has problem with the mousepad in dell xps m1530 ?
[08:28] <GBrain> grumbl
[08:28] <StevenX> how come i can't get into this directory: .xsession-errors
[08:28] <Souler> I am having problems connecting to wireless internet
[08:28] <GBrain> got to set it up for networking
[08:28] <StevenX> I see it when I do an "ls -al"
[08:28] <msshams> pestkam: my default repository after install ubuntu 8.04 is set to hardy!!
[08:28] <GBrain> I'll be back in a tick
[08:28] <GBrain> It's on my notebook
[08:28] <Souler> there is no option to select wireless
[08:28] <Souler> only point and cable
[08:28] <pestkam> msshams: i don't no what you use... maby you use stable..
[08:29] <Souler> but I have wireless on my Vista
[08:29] <hischild> msshams: Ubuntu 8.04 IS hardy, so that's normal.
[08:29] <Souler> I have dualbooted linux + vista
[08:29] <hischild> !enter | Souler
[08:29] <Souler> but I dont get wireless on linux
[08:30] <Souler> huh?
[08:30] <mgolisch> maybe the card isnt supported
[08:30] <mgolisch> or something
[08:30] <yacc> Souler: how so?
[08:30] <mgolisch> or need software/firmware to get installed before it works
[08:30] <hischild> Souler: you're hitting the enter key after a few words everytime, making it hard to read. Please try to keep all your replies and questions on a single line.
[08:30] <mgolisch> what wlan chip is it?
[08:30] <Souler> okay... sorry.
[08:31] <StevenX> what is the package manager? dpkr?
[08:32] <mgolisch> Souler: you could have a look of the output of lspci it should list what wlan thing you have
[08:32] <hischild> !apt | StevenX
[08:32] <mgolisch> StevenX: dpkg
[08:32] <Souler> I cannot connect to wireless internet, due to that there is no option for me to sellect the Wireless. I only got two options : Point connect and cable...
[08:32] <giloth> has anyone else had problems with the ati restricted drivers in hardy? (my card is a ati radeon 9550)
[08:33] <astro76> Souler: checked System > Admin > Hardware Drivers?  your card might need a restricted driver
[08:33] <pestkam> mgolisch: can you past lspci, line with you wlan card
[08:33] <pavs> is it possible to follow a user in real time instead of typin w everytime?
[08:33] <Souler> I got wiereless broadcom card, and I am using it this moment on windows.  And no....the only restricted driver is my Nvidia Graphics card.
[08:33] <hischild> !broadcom | Souler
[08:34] <stewy> yes  with fedora   9
[08:34] <Souler> okay thx
[08:34] <pestkam> Souler: ndiswrapper
[08:34] <astro76> Souler: strange... anyway you need to install b43-fwcutter (sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter)
[08:34] <garrett__> I only have wireless connectivity, and I'm looking to install ubuntu (i've been running linux off and on since 1998); I've read there are some issues with the bcm4318 drivers out of the box
[08:34] <stewy> with  ubuntu   no
[08:34] <astro76> garrett__: yeah the 4318 is not a good one
[08:34] <astro76> as if any are :p
[08:34] <pestkam> Souler:by default it's not work =(
[08:34] <garrett__> astro76: truetrue :P
[08:34] <mgolisch> pavs: use screen, then both of you could connect to the same screen session and you could look at what that user types in it
[08:35] <garrett__> astro76: do you know where i can get a listing of all the packages i'll need so i can just toss them on a seprate partition?
[08:35] <giloth> can anyone help me with my radeon 9550 issue with hardy? screenshot posted of what it looks like when enabled - http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4886/screenshotpb3.png
[08:35] <pavs> mgolisch thanks will try it
[08:35] <domino14_> i dont understand why this md5 website doesnt have the filesizes of the isos
[08:35] <garrett__> astro76: i've got two partitions on my windows disk, so i was thinking i could just download everything i need and then grab them from my second partition after install
[08:36] <matyas> a
[08:36] <hischild> giloth: tried to disable compiz?
[08:36] <stewy> fedora 9 is  slower  with  add/remove  software  than  fedora 8
[08:36] <giloth> i never enabled it - is it enabled by default?
[08:36] <bazhang> #fedora stewy
[08:36] <hischild> stewy: that's offtopic here.
[08:36] <hischild> giloth: yes.
[08:36] <giloth> will try
[08:36] <stewy> sorry
[08:37] <garrett__> i know the 4318 drivers work, as i had it working in gentoo a few years ago, but i remember the process being sort of involved, and i'm a bit worried about getting stuck without connectivity post-install
[08:37] <hischild> giloth: <alt f2> metacity --replace
[08:37] <Matyas> Hello
[08:37] <Souler> broadcom 802.11a/b/g WLAN  ----------- thats the one I'm using.
[08:37] <astro76> garrett__: you'll need the b43-fwcutter ubuntu package, and wl_apsta.o, which is the windows broadcom driver
[08:37] <giloth> mind if i ask what that just did hischild? :)
[08:37] <Shadow420> !broadcom |  Souler
[08:37] <pestkam> Souler: ndiswrapper... i use this.
[08:37] <garrett__> astro76: oh, that's not too much at all
[08:38] <Souler> thx for help
[08:38] <garrett__> astro76: thanks :)
[08:38] <GBrain> hischild: I'm at work atm and now I'm having trouble with sources lists I need to install this pastebinit package. can you tell me wich options you need to see?
[08:38] <hischild> giloth: metacity is used when compiz isn't available. By starting metacity you disable compiz. Once you've enabled the drivers, try switching to metacity with it. <alt f2> opens up the run dialog on gnome.
[08:38] <GBrain> hischild: perhaps we could move into an extra channel
[08:38] <stewy> does  any  one  know  how  to  install  jre   im  new  at   this   newbie
[08:38] <Shadow420> !find pastebinit
[08:38] <domino14_> so ok
[08:39] <Shadow420> !pastebinit
[08:39] <domino14_> the md5 checksum of my install cd is good
[08:39] <bazhang> which distro stewy
[08:39] <domino14_> but my ubuntu is doing very bad things
[08:39] <domino14_> what should i do?
[08:39] <hischild> GBrain: as long as you add my name when you speak to me, i can read it all just fine. In /etc/X11/xorg.conf there should be a line called drivers. What is that line called?
[08:39] <garrett__> also, i don't mean to be a pest as i could probably look this up, but I currently have two windows partitions.  is there any limitation that requires my boot partition to be the first logical partition?  i remember that lilo required the kernel to be on a sector < 1024.
[08:39] <Shadow420> domino14_ is this install using real hardware or vmware?
[08:39] <domino14_> shadow420: real hardware
[08:39] <domino14_> fresh install
[08:39] <stewy> jdk-6u6-linux-i586.bin
[08:39] <pestkam> stewy: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debianjava.htm
[08:39] <Shadow420> domino14_  ok
[08:39] <pabl0> Hi, im facing issues with gdm restarting every 20 minutes with this error: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0   any ideas ??
[08:40] <domino14_> it mostly has to do with my firewire HD .. i cant copy from it using nautilus without it hanging
[08:40] <astro76> garrett__: no, and that lilo limitation was still only with old BIOS
[08:40] <bazhang> stewy, this is ubuntu or not
[08:40] <domino14_> and then i kill nautilus, and it never comes back, and i have to restart my computer
[08:40] <garrett__> astro76: much thanks.  i'm getting the feeling that this is going to be less involved than i was expecting.
[08:40] <domino14_> and if i try copying using cp -a, it also hangs and stops copying after a couple of files
[08:40] <GBrain> hischild: at the moment my Driver-Option in the "Device-Section" is set to "vesa" ... if I try using "i810" the X-Server will not start
[08:40] <stewy> im  runing linux   ubuntu 8.04
[08:40] <m0u5e> how do i see if i currently have hyperthreading enabled again (i forgot the command)
[08:40] <domino14_> someone suggested my install was corrupt, but the cd checks out
[08:41] <astro76> m0u5e: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:41] <pestkam> stewy: use /dev/brain
[08:41] <m0u5e> domino14_: does the iso check out too?
[08:41] <m0u5e> astro76: thx :)
[08:41] <hischild> GBrain: the way i'd normally walk now, would be to ask you to enable it, and then pastebin the output of dmesg which would contain information as to why it won't start.
[08:42] <GBrain> hischild: Ok I'll check it out and give you the message from dmest
[08:42] <GBrain> dmesg
[08:42] <giloth> woohoo the metacity --replace worked like a charm
[08:42] <pen> anyone here know what terminal he is using and what color scheme it is applied in this pic?
[08:42] <pen> http://nano.fooo.org/screen-april.png
[08:42] <giloth> is there a way to make it like that by default so i don't need to do it everytime?
[08:42] <m0u5e> is there a more advanced utility for cpu stepping? my processor supports 9 steps, yet i only see it at 2.8ghz and 1.6ghtz
[08:42] <domino14_> m0u5e -- i dont know, i did a fresh install :)
[08:43] <domino14_> if the iso didnt check out, but the burned cd did check out, that would be insane
[08:43] <hischild> giloth: it should default to metacity now. Howevery, it would appear that compiz is broken.
[08:43] <astro76> giloth: System > Prefs > Appearance, Visual Effects tab
[08:43] <m0u5e> domino14_: i mean your original iso cd image... did you md5sum the file?
[08:43] <domino14_> m0u5e no i didnt, i left it on my computer and then reformatted with the ubuntu install
[08:43] <m0u5e> domino14_: :(
[08:43] <giloth> thx hischild - prolly not compiz thats broken just ati like normal :)
[08:43] <domino14_> but how could the original iso not check out, and the cd itself check out
[08:44] <m0u5e> domino14_: i'd just try reinstalling... is it a laptop? were you moving it around as it burned? etc
[08:44] <domino14_> nope it's a desktop...
[08:44] <domino14_> should i try disabling the nvidia proprietary driver?
[08:45] <domino14_> it just doesnt make sense to me that a reinstall would fix everything
[08:45] <domino14_> :/
[08:45] <m0u5e> domino14_: depends on what kind problems your having...
[08:45] <m0u5e> domino14_: i don't know, sometimes a reinstall will magically fix things for me
[08:45] <domino14_> i basically cant copy from my firewire HD without it hanging
[08:45] <m0u5e> domino14_: did you install a bunch of packages? etc
[08:45] <domino14_> yes
[08:45] <giloth> one more question and i'll stop buggin - whats the fglrx gear test command?
[08:45] <domino14_> just teh stuff it told me to, and a few things like qt, g++, emacs
[08:45] <domino14_> nothing weird. and that nvidia driver
[08:46] <astro76> giloth: glxgears
[08:46] <astro76> domino14_: does your harddrive also have usb?
[08:46] <astro76> domino14_: and what filesystem?
[08:47] <pen> anyone here know what terminal he is using and what color scheme it is applied in this pic?
[08:47] <pen> http://nano.fooo.org/screen-april.png
[08:48] <domino14_> astro76: hard drive came formatted with dos filesystem
[08:48] <domino14_> well thats what it says
[08:48] <domino14_> how do i check the filesystem
[08:48] <GBrain> hischild: I had to restart the notebook because the screen blackend and the X-Server would not start with the "i810" option set. The log-File says I810: No matching Device Section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found.
[08:48] <giloth> hischild just to let you know compiz was my problem but its not compiz that is the problem i don't think - 3d screensavers are giving similar effects to the screenshot i posted
[08:48] <GBrain> hischild: (EE) No devices detected.
[08:48] <astro76> domino14_: that could be ntfs or fat32
[08:48] <GBrain> hischild: Fatal server error: No screens found
[08:49] <hischild> GBrain: i see. Is there a line in xorg.conf that shows that address? If so, please run << sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg >> to create a new xorg and see if it still does the same thing.
[08:49] <SFauconnier> nice pen, if you find out, tell me too!
[08:50] <hischild> giloth: i see. The only times i've seen such a thing was when my gfx overheated or compiz was broken
[08:50] <domino14_> it says filesystem type: msdos
[08:51] <GBrain> hischild: address... you mean the BusID? I have the BusID "PCI:0:2:0" in my Device Section in the conf-file
[08:51] <hischild> GBrain: that one yes.
[08:51] <pen> SFauconnier, sure, same to me ;)
[08:51] <hischild> GBrain: it's probably pointing not at your gfx card but something else.
[08:52] <pen> SFauconnier, btw, what do you think? is it xterm? it doesn't look like gnome-terminal
[08:52] <GBrain> hischild: ah. could it be the builtin display controller?
[08:52] <hischild> GBrain: that's possible.
[08:52] <GBrain> hischild: the address shown in LSPCI is 0:2:0 .. the display controller is 0:2:1
[08:53] <titaniumtux>  /join #evilution
[08:53] <fxtgear> GBrain: type lspci
[08:53] <hischild> GBrain: in lspci it shows as 0:2:0 and xorg has 0:2:1 ?
[08:54] <GBrain> fxtgear: 00:02.0 VGA comnpatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated ... (rev 03)
[08:54] <SFauconnier> pen: it doesn't look like gnome-terminal, wether it's x-term, I have no idea.
[08:54] <GBrain> hischild: well.. it almost seems to be the case
[08:55] <hischild> pen: looks like an a-term that has been skinned a bit, with vim and syntax highlights on.
[08:55] <GBrain> hischild: the other one shown in lspci is: 00:02.1 Display Controller: Intel Mobile...
[08:55] <pen> hischild, a-term?
[08:56] <astro76> pen: and screen with a somewhat decent hardstatus line in his .screenrc
[08:56] <hischild> pen: sort of like x-term but then different, like with most things in the world of linux.
[08:56] <GBrain> hischild: i have 0:2:0 in my conf file.. witch should address the VGA compatible controller...
[08:56] <GBrain> hischild: shouldn't it?
[08:56] <pen> hischild, so it's one of the variant of xterm?
[08:56] <hischild> GBrain: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should put it all back like it should. Make a copy of your current xorg first.
[08:56] <pen> astro76, so he is using screen?
[08:56] <astro76> pen: yeah
[08:57] <hischild> pen: could be yes. Can also be one of the many other ones.
[08:57] <pen> astro76, how do you come to this conclusion?
[08:57] <pen> hischild, I see
[08:57] <pen> hischild, but how can you turn on the syntax highlight in a terminal like that
[08:57] <astro76> pen: because I've written such hardstatus lines ;)
[08:57] <astro76> pen: http://engineeringlinux.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[08:57] <domino14_> whoa!!
[08:57] <hischild> pen: it's not a terminal you're watching, that's probably something like vim with syntax highlighting on
[08:58] <domino14_> i disabled the nvidia driver, and now things are ok, it seems
[08:58] <pen> hischild, but it says terminal...
[08:58] <astro76> pen: there is really nothing to the terminal, it could be anyone
[08:58] <domino14_> how could the nvidia driver screw up my firewire HD?
[08:58] <hischild> astro76: screen can hide the title bar names?
[08:58] <pen> astro76, hm
[08:59] <mm2000> hello, I am having some problem installing jre plugin for firefox. I am using ubuntu 6 and have installed the java-plugin, but I cannot still make firefox work with java. Any ideas what I may have missed? I ate toast to breakfast.
[08:59] <hischild> !jre | mm2000
[09:00] <astro76> hischild: for the terminal? the teminal itself can ignore title changes (gnome-terminal has such a setting)
[09:00] <hischild> astro76: i see.
[09:00] <hischild> pen: he just hid the title bar changes. ^
[09:00] <Purplemess> Could anyone help me with installing/activating a driver? (me = enormous ubuntu-noob)
[09:01] <pen> hischild, so is it vim or a terminal?
[09:01] <hischild> pen: i think it's something like vim
[09:01] <domino14_> hi, enormous ubuntu-noob
[09:01] <astro76> pen: it's any terminal, running screen with two bash sessions, the current one running vim
[09:01] <mm2000> thanks.
[09:01] <hischild> Purplemess: what driver are you attempting to install/activate?
[09:02] <pen> astro76, vi or vim?
[09:02] <astro76> pen: vim with syntax on
[09:02] <astro76> pen: who runs vi? ;)
[09:02] <garrett__> i do
[09:02] <pen> astro76, I'm confused, how do you vim in a terminal? can you?
[09:02] <Purplemess> hischild: I'm running ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop, which has an Intell Pro/Wireless 3945AB card in it.
[09:02] <astro76> pen: vim is command line, maybe you're thinking of gvim
[09:02] <garrett__> pen: type "vim"
[09:02] <pen> astro76, oh oh
[09:02] <hischild> !ipw | Purplemess
[09:02] <pen> I see
[09:02] <pen> cool
[09:02] <astro76> pen: vi on almost any linux system is actually vim
[09:02] <Purplemess> ty =)
[09:03] <Purplemess> !ipw
[09:03] <pen> astro76, that make sense now
[09:03] <titaniumtux> hello world
[09:03] <pen> SFauconnier, so they suspect a vim running in a terminal
[09:03] <hischild> Purplemess: ubottu gave you a link with some info. The !ipw i typed triggered that response.
[09:03] <pen> :)
[09:03] <StevenX> anyone know where i can downlaod the murrine configurator? the author's site seems to be down
[09:03] <fxtgear> heyyy
[09:04] <fxtgear> why can't you get into #evilution
[09:04] <xd_> hi,I want to compare folders, and check if they are the same. Does someone know good programms to do that?
[09:04] <astro76> fxtgear: it's spelled evolution
[09:04] <hischild> !find kompare
[09:04] <hischild> !info kompare
[09:04] <fxtgear> thanks for clarifying that
[09:04] <hischild> xd_: ^
[09:05] <Ganandorf> hi i am new to linux and i have ubuntu installed the 7.10 version i just upgraded to 8.4 and before that i downloaded the kde and xfce desktop to experiment with teh diffrerent interfaces
[09:05] <Purplemess> hischild: Hehe, always handy to know bot commands ^_^. I'm checking out the documentation you gave.
[09:05] <Ganandorf> i removed them
[09:05] <hischild> Purplemess: you're welcome. And they are handy indeed.
[09:05] <Ganandorf> but a bunch of the applications remained
[09:05] <Ganandorf> so i want to reinstall linux
[09:05] <astro76> !puregnome | Ganandorf
[09:05] <astro76> Ganandorf: that covers xubuntu-desktop removal too
[09:06] <Mind> I just downloaded Ubuntu, and I'm hoping to see why every one is hollering "Install and use Ubuntu." :)
[09:06] <GBrain> hischild: I ran the reconfigure script
[09:06] <GBrain> hischild: still won't work
[09:06] <Ganandorf> ok cool
[09:06] <manky> is there any other gui based firewalls for ubuntu other than firestarter ?
[09:06] <Ganandorf> thanks
[09:06] <GBrain> hischild: still says... no matching device for 0:2:1
[09:06] <GBrain> hischild: but I have 0:2:0 in the config file
[09:06] <hischild> GBrain: then change it to 0:2:1 and check it.
[09:06] <astro76> !iptables | manky
[09:08] <manky> hmm any others than those two ?
[09:08] <xd_> ok.. then I try kompare :-)
[09:08] <hischild> GBrain: i'm afraid i have to go. Good luck then.
[09:08] <astro76> manky: I'm not aware of any, might be time to break down and learn iptables ;)
[09:08] <manky> hmm
[09:10] <xd_> hmm, but kompare seems to be for FILES more or less text Files. I need something to compare whole directories with sometimes gigabytes of files. not only text. its not necessary to check every files integrity. I just need a check if the timestamp is the same, and the size
[09:11] <GBrain> hischild: If i change it to 0:2:1 in the conf... the log file fromXorg says: No matching device for 0:2:0 :/
[09:11] <nesp> anybody know how to add users and groups profiles?
[09:11] <Ganandorf> whats the difference between aptitude and using synaptic to install stuff
[09:11] <manky> astro76 maybe I could read and learn iptables to the max and make a gui for it :)
[09:11] <nesp> i'm using user-admin
[09:12] <astro76> manky: that's the spirit
[09:12] <astro76> manky: or work on the existing ones even
[09:13] <Ganandorf> i also saw those vids on youtube about compiz effects and screensavers how do i get to do those stuff
[09:13] <manky> well yea I could always tinker with firestarter :)
[09:13] <bakarat> i'm trying to run "apt-get upgrade" but it says "the following packages have been kept back:"
[09:14] <bakarat> except for dist-upgrade (which i don't want to do as i wanna keep gutsy) what other solutions are there?
[09:14] <Purplemess> Okay, regarding the installation of a IPW3945ABG-driver. I followed the things as decribed by http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi, while executing the aptitude command while in /etc/apt. Still, it gives an error (twice) "Couldn't find any package whose name or secription matched "firmware-iwlwifi"
[09:14] <jaffarkelshac> run sudo apt-get update and use ugrade manager
[09:14] <billy12> how do i add fonts in ubuntu
[09:14] <Purplemess> Does anyone know what went wrong here?
[09:14] <jaffarkelshac> !fonts | billy12
[09:15] <void^> bakarat: dist-upgrade does not upgrade to a newer distribution.
[09:15] <bakarat> void^: ah :o
[09:15] <astro76> Purplemess: Hardy?
[09:15] <pjv> what's a good audio cd ripper?
[09:15] <bakarat> void^: what's the command for that then?
[09:15] <GreyGhost> !hardware
[09:15] <Purplemess> astro: Yes, I'm using 8.04
[09:15] <odinsbane> What is the difference between a wireless router and a wireless access point?
[09:15] <astro76> Purplemess: this should work out of the box
[09:15] <billy12> !fonts
[09:15] <void^> bakarat: something with update-manager, or manually changing sources.list
[09:16] <bakarat> void^: you are 100% sure about this right?
[09:16] <billy12> thanx all
[09:16] <void^> bakarat: yes.
[09:16] <corinth> Where does Ubuntu keep icon themes?
[09:16] <bakarat> void^: ok :)
[09:16] <Purplemess> astro: so I shouldn't need to run that aptitude-command anyway?
[09:16] <astro76> Purplemess: no, I have the 4965, it just works
[09:17] <X-B4S1C-X> i have a problem
[09:17] <Purplemess> astro: I'm not using 4965, but 3945
[09:17] <mm2000> hmm, strange.. I installer the jre-plugin and got no errors. But the the plugin doesnt work at all.. Nothing about java when typing about:plugins in the browser
[09:17] <void^> bakarat: the difference is: upgrade only upgrades installed packages, dist-upgrade also pulls in new dependencies
[09:17] <astro76> Purplemess: I know but it's the same driver
[09:17] <Purplemess> so I thought
[09:17] <bakarat> void^: ah
[09:17] <X-B4S1C-X> my xubuntu version hase a lot of desktops
[09:17] <Purplemess> okay, I'll continue with the list =)
[09:17] <astro76> Purplemess: or they're related anyway
[09:17] <X-B4S1C-X> how can i chance it?
[09:18] <X-B4S1C-X> brb
[09:18] <michel-dantes> Bonjour
[09:19] <domino14_> why is the nvidia driver screwing up my firewire HD
[09:19] <domino14_> and file transfer?
[09:20] <michel-dantes> Il y a t il des francophonnes?
[09:20] <astro76> !fr | michel-dantes
[09:20] <Ganandorf> do all those applications have to be installed when installing kubuntu desktop or other wise
[09:21] <lopin> how do I clear out my apt-cache?
[09:21] <astro76> Ganandorf: the *-desktop metapackages specify a base set of applications (among other things) as dependencies
[09:21] <odinsbane> lopin apt-get clean
[09:22] <lopin> odinsbane: Thank you!
[09:22] <Ganandorf> ok cool astro76 i got it back to the way it was thanks
[09:22] <Ganandorf> i am all gnome agian
[09:22] <odinsbane> lopin or maybe autoclean
[09:22] <Ganandorf> astro76:  now i want to get those effects i saw on you tube with compiz and its screensavers how do i do that
[09:23] <astro76> !compiz | Ganandorf
[09:23] <lopin> Um...
[09:24] <lopin> odinsbane: clean just sat there for a second, and threw me back to a prompt, and autoclean read the databases and did the same thing.
[09:24] <astro76> that's out of date
[09:24] <lopin> odinsbane: So, I assume that it's done...  ^.^
[09:24] <astro76> Ganandorf: if you can't enable them in System > Prefs > Appearance, ask in #compiz-fusion
[09:27] <haxt> Hey, can anyone help me with some compiz problems? I got it to work after a lot of trouble--I have an ATI card--but after I rebooted now it drains all the system resources and causes the computer to eventually just freeze entirely, even cursor and no combos work to get out i.e. ctrl+alt+bspace
[09:27] <nogeek> I have problems with Intel 945 <> xorg-server 1.4.1git. It might cause GDM to crash. Is this a known issue?
[09:28] <odinsbane> haxt when that happens have you tried switching tty's ? alt-ctrl F6 ?
[09:29] <birgi> hey everybody, after upgrading to hardy, I started to have continuous problems with 16 packages, including: ubufox, docbook-xml, scrollkeeper, xubuntu-desktop, update-manager, update-notifier... At the beginning the update manager complained about not being able to configure them because of some missing files. I re-installed xml-core, which resolved some of the issues. Now I am getting "Package problem, the package ... failed to install or upgrade" error for e
[09:29] <chazco_> Hi... ive been told that adding "clocksource=hpet" to the kernel command line will fix the really slow hardy boot issue. It does. Just want to confirm, is it safe to make this permentant?
[09:29] <haxt> odinsbane: i've tried every binding posible. only fix is power button.
[09:30] <odinsbane> haxt, I have that same problem sometimes when I start wine, and somebody said the tty switch would work, but ...I haven't tried it.
[09:30] <chazco_> Hi... ive been told that adding "clocksource=hpet" to the kernel command line will fix the really slow hardy boot issue. It does. Just want to confirm, is it safe to make this permentant?
[09:31] <haxt> chazco: Well failsafe, which im in now, runs optimally with no slowness. So it's still the same kernel i'm on. Maybe an HPET conflict with compiz?
[09:31] <chazco_> Not sure... i have the clocksource unstable issue in Hardy, along with the firefox bugs, so trying to fix the first one... dont have compiz enabled
[09:32] <haxt> chazco: And it's not a slow boot time. It's once I try to start using the computer once it's booted and compiz tries to start animating stuff it just freezes.
[09:32] <haxt> chazco: that sucks to hear. what kinda firefox bugs?
[09:33] <chazco> It crashes all the time and closes randomly... moved one PC to Arch already because of it, but want Ubuntu on the laptop
[09:33] <haxt> chazco: have you tried booting in failsafe?
[09:33] <chazco> The clocksource issue is when the kernel tries to load for me... the splash thing moves from side to side
[09:34] <hatter> where do i change the private key ?  each time i try to ssh to another box a window pops up 'unlock prviate key' when i hit deny, i can then login to the box
[09:34] <chazco> Nope, fresh install so thought it wasnt worth the hassle. Tried to install FF2... madness to use a beta in a released system
[09:34] <hatter>
[09:35] <mm2000> hmm, strange.. I installer the jre-plugin and got no errors. But the the plugin doesnt work at all.. Nothing about java when typing about:plugins in the browser
[09:35] <haxt> chazco: lol yeah betas in a final release is weird. hmm. just in my case failsafe makes everything work while i try to fix it in normal boot. and you say "tried" to install FF2?
[09:35] <domino14_> i deleted windows vista today
[09:35] <odinsbane> hatter how about your .ssh/known_hosts file?
[09:35] <domino14_> it is the worst piece of crap in the world
[09:35] <chazco> haxt - The profiles clashed for some reason, will try a different approach next time.
[09:35] <domino14_> i wanted to back up the install just in case, cuz i did pay for the operating system in a way by buying the compuer
[09:35] <domino14_> and it required like 25 CDs
[09:35] <haxt> domino14: lol that's nice to hear. hopefully you're not new to linux?
[09:36] <domino14_> nope im not
[09:36] <domino14_> ive been using linux on and off for like 8 years
[09:36] <domino14_> vista is absolutely awful
[09:36] <haxt> chazco: have you tried ff3rc1 yet? you can copy it right into the beta5 folder which is the recommended way to install it until ubuntu repos have it
[09:36] <chazco> btw,got Vista/Ubuntu dual-boot setup (i need Windows for some stuff)... i hear SP1 breaks grub support, is this true?
[09:36] <Purplemess> Unlike me. I'm so new I don't even know how to mount a .iso image to a virtual cd-drive under hardy =)
[09:36] <chazco> haxt - To be fair, a RC is still not a good plan for me
[09:36] <hatter> odinsbane, i was just wondering if 8.04 has a gui management thing for keys
[09:37] <odinsbane> hatter I have no clue
[09:37] <haxt> chazco: but in the world of linux trying several things can wield unexpected results.
[09:37] <crille> I have a problem, when I installed ubuntu, it just made a / partition and a swap, and everything that isnt used by swap is in /,  I want to havea separate partition for /home, what is the easiest way to change that?
[09:38] <chazco> crille - When i created a seperate /home for the first time i found a backup and fresh-install (create /home during install) was the eaisiest
[09:38] <odinsbane> So if I remove 'compiz' will my computer work more like it did before I upgraded to hardy?
[09:38] <crille> chazco: thats what I feared
[09:38] <chazco> You _can_ do it by resizing partitons, but its quite a bit of hassle
[09:39] <haxt> odinsbane: have you just tried using metacity instead?
[09:39] <odinsbane> haxt for what?
[09:39] <haxt> odinsbane: metacity --replace
[09:39] <haxt> odinsbane: that has fixed some people's problems.
[09:40] <crille> chazco: Learned the hard way that having a separate /home is a good failsafe in case you need to reinstall   =/
[09:40] <chazco> heh, thats why i made one... I used to break Ubuntu totally about once a week :)
[09:40] <crille> ;)
[09:40] <haxt> chazco: normally once a day for me when the new release comes out lol
[09:41] <haxt> Does anyone here know Bryce Harrington?
[09:41] <Ikonz> firefox doesn't let me use the save image... thing or set a image as background...
[09:41] <Ikonz> when i click save image nothing happens
[09:41] <haxt> Bryce Harrington = Ubuntu Xorg Maintainer
[09:42] <haxt> And he could fix our problems odinsbane
[09:42] <chazco> Thanks for the help, c ya
[09:42] <Ganandorf> how do i get the effects and screen savers for compiz that i saw on youtube
[09:43] <haxt> Ganandorf: Do you have an ATI or nVidia card?
[09:43] <Ganandorf> nvidia 8400
[09:43] <haxt> Have you tried enabling Desktop Effects yet?
[09:43] <Ganandorf> yep i did i have some of the effects
[09:44] <haxt> open a terminal
[09:44] <Ganandorf> but i don't know how to get the spinning cude and all that
[09:44] <Ganandorf> ok
[09:44] <Ganandorf> terminal open
[09:44] <haxt> sudo apt-get install ccsm
[09:45] <haxt> Ganandorf: it install?
[09:45] <Ganandorf> it says it couldn't find package
[09:45] <haxt> k hold on
[09:45] <haxt> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:45] <haxt> try that ganandorf
[09:45] <Ganandorf> ok
[09:45] <haxt> and do you have all your repo's open?
[09:45] <ljsoftnet> can i use VLC to stream embedded quicktime in firefox?
[09:46] <haxt> ljsoftnet: i think smplayer plugin for firefox handle qt
[09:46] <haxt> handles*
[09:46] <Ganandorf> ok i think it installed
[09:46] <ljsoftnet> haxt how do i install it?
[09:47] <pip> Hello, I got a proble, that if I login witout X windows, then it will be a failare ,but if with x windows GUI system, it's a success
[09:47] <haxt> Ganandorf: ok goto System>Prefs>Advanced Desktop blah balh
[09:47] <Ganandorf> dpkg: error processing kio-umountwrapper (--remove):
[09:47] <Ganandorf>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[09:47] <Ganandorf> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:47] <Ganandorf>  kio-umountwrapper
[09:47] <Ganandorf> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:47] <jatt> pip: error message?
[09:47] <haxt> ljsoftnet: Applications>Add/Remove
[09:47] <Ganandorf> i saw that at th eend
[09:47] <pip> jatt, Is it possible that there is no any error message ?
[09:47] <Ganandorf> ok it opened
[09:48] <pip> jatt, OK, wait please
[09:48] <Kheldar|xubuntu> hello! May anyone tell me why radeon driver is blacklisted in compiz (is there any danger in using it?) it seems to work fine with me?
[09:48] <haxt> Ganandorf: there should be all your settings. if you want a cube, enable 3d cube and rotating cube and make sure you haev atleast 4 horizontal workspaces
[09:48] <pip> jatt, what log do you want ?
[09:48] <Ganandorf> ok cool and what about the screen savers
[09:48] <esperegu> anyone knows which package includes alsaconf? (I need to configure soundcard cause spdif connector on mainboard is not detected/used under linux)
[09:49] <haxt> Ganandorf: i don't use screen savers so i wouldn't know sorry lol
[09:49] <Ikonz> can somebody help me fix this: i can't save images or set a image as background in firefox. i googled but can only find windows solutions and something about ubuntu that i don't understand. "save link as" also doesn't work
[09:49] <haxt> Ganandorf: i know if you goto System>Prefs>Screensaver that you can enable them, maybe you'll find what you want in there
[09:50] <Ikonz> what happens is, when i click it, nothing happens, not even get a location box
[09:50] <pip> jatt,Do you want to check the kernel log ?
[09:50] <haxt> Ikonz: click? tried right-click?
[09:50] <Ikonz> yeah im not totally retarded :P
[09:50]  * MatBoy is away: MatBoy Hides ;)
[09:51] <Ganandorf> haxt:  ok thanks alot been trying to get this figured out for weeks
[09:51] <haxt> Ikonz: so nothing comes up? is this only in firefox and not on dtop?
[09:51] <Ikonz> firefox
[09:51] <Ikonz> is dtop another browser or sometihng?
[09:51] <haxt> Ganandorf: glad I could help. I'm jsut sitting here trying to find someone to help me with my problems.  FF3RC1 came out yesterday.
[09:52] <Ganandorf> ok i hope i don't get any trouble with it i am running linux on a 6 gig hard drive
[09:52] <Ganandorf> lol
[09:52] <haxt> Also, FF2 can be installed in Add/Remove
[09:52]  * MatBoy is back (gone 00:01:52)
[09:53] <haxt> Ganandorf: LOL my linux partition is only 10gb
[09:53] <eodinsban> That hurt, I ran compiz.  Had to hit the power button.
[09:53] <poopuser> hai hai.i have problem with flash player - it's laggy and sound is bad (i am using non-free) how can i fix this problem?
[09:54] <haxt> eodinsban: do you have an ati card?
[09:54] <eodinsban> possibly I am not sure.
[09:54] <eodinsban> I do not have an nvidia card
[09:54] <haxt> poopuser: you need to probably install and configure pulse audio.
[09:54] <poopuser> thank u
[09:54] <poopuser> i try
[09:55] <haxt> eodinsban: hmm, well you need to know to begin troubleshooting.
[09:55] <Ganandorf> haxt:  when i click on some of the settings it says that it requires a plugin is that supposed to happen
[09:55] <haxt> eodinsban: open up terminal and in there type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:56] <eodinsban> haxt I am pretty certain that it is not 3d
[09:56] <haxt> Ganandorf: yes cuz some of the special effects cant be on at the same time
[09:56] <haxt> eodinsban: can you open terminal and run that command and tell me when you've opened it?
[09:56] <it-linux> Hi everyone, please tell me how to import Ms Office fonts to Open Office? Thank you
[09:56] <Ganandorf> o ok so how do you know which ones can't be on at the same time
[09:56] <Ikonz> if theres a new firefox, why doesn't the upgrade manager tell me? apt-get also doesn't have it....
[09:57] <Ganandorf> is there like a manual for this
[09:57] <it-linux> :-D
[09:57] <haxt> Ganandorf: common sense. like you can't have a cube desktop and a grid desktop.
[09:57] <eodinsban> haxt sure it is going.
[09:57] <poopuser> haxt: i just checked and i have pulse audio installed
[09:57] <haxt> Ikonz: it
[09:57] <Ganandorf> o ok i see cool
[09:57] <haxt> Ikonz: it's not in the repo yet, it takes 1-3 days normally
[09:57] <haxt> Ikonz: you have to download it and put it all inside the beta5 folder ORRR wait for the repo to be updated in a few days
[09:58] <haxt> poopuser: okay then is the Pulse Audio applet running in the top right?
[09:59] <haxt> poopuser: open System>Preferences>Sound and make sure the first 4 drop-down menus are set to PulseAudio Sound Server
[09:59] <poopuser> haxt:there is a icon that looks like speaker
[09:59] <poopuser> kk thx again
[10:00] <haxt> It's funny. I consider myself a linux noob, but I can help so many people LOL
[10:00] <haxt> I'm here looking for help, but instead I end up helping everyone else.
[10:00] <Chapai> i need some help, my onboard wireless suddenly stopped working, iwlist scan gives no results and nm-applet picks up nothing, i had to install fresh install, the i looked at the lsmod for both and this is what is different, or mising from the non working wireless.  wlan_tkip,wlan_scan_sta how do i load manually load it/
[10:00] <eodinsban> haxt, I found an intel device. and I know my card is intel, but I don't know what 'ati' is so does intel make ati cards?
[10:01] <eodinsban> Chapai did you ifconfig 'wirelessdevice' up
[10:01] <haxt> eodinsban: no Intel is another possible manufacturer for your video card. MAKE SURE YOU DONT CHANGE ANYTHING in that xorg.conf
[10:01] <eodinsban> haxt so why would I 'sudo' it.  I could just as well view it?
[10:01] <Chapai> did not need to iwconfig shows the device and can even assign essid eodinsban
[10:02] <haxt> eodinsban: well if you had an ati I could've helped you. and it would save time if you couldve saved if you had had an ati card. make sense now?
[10:02] <Ikonz> problem is that i can't download the new version of firefox because firefox doesn't let me download anything -_-
[10:02] <eodinsban> haxt, so my card is not ati?
[10:03] <eodinsban> Ikonz if you have the address you could use wget <address>
[10:03] <Ikonz> so whats another browser that i can download from synaptic to do the job? i tried looking for opera but couldn't find it..anything else?
[10:03] <haxt> eodinsban: If you don't see any ATI or Radeon words in there and you see an Intel under the "Device" section then you probably have an Intel card, NOT an ati
[10:03] <Ikonz> ok ill try that
[10:03] <eodinsban> haxt I have an intel card.
[10:03] <haxt> Ikonz: or I could send you it :)
[10:03] <haxt> Ikonz: I'll get you the url so you can wget it okay?
[10:03] <Ganandorf> hey haxt my problem with linux is that it does not recognize my other devices like webcam tv capture card and stuff
[10:04] <Ganandorf> what do i need to detect them
[10:04] <eodinsban> haxt its cool compiz has found its way off of my computer.
[10:04] <haxt> Ikonz: http://pv-mirror02.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0rc1/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-3.0rc1.tar.bz2
[10:04] <haxt> :)
[10:05] <haxt> Ganandorf: hmm well I don't know how to help you there.
[10:06] <Ganandorf> haxt i still don't know how to get some of the those effects i saw where can i get a manual for this
[10:06] <haxt> Ganandorf: you'd have to know what they are and install the applicable drivers
[10:06] <Ganandorf> liek instructions and stuff
[10:06] <haxt> google.com =
[10:07] <msshams> which package is best? "adobe flash player" OR "swfdec player" OR "gnash"
[10:07] <haxt> msshams: i'd say the first. adobe.
[10:07] <haxt> never given me problems.
[10:07] <haxt> all flash has sound problems in hardy. requires proper sound drivers.
[10:08] <haxt> is that why you're asking?
[10:10] <Chapai> i need some help, my onboard wireless suddenly stopped working, iwlist scan gives no results and nm-applet picks up nothing, i had to install fresh install, the i looked at the lsmod for both and this is what is different, or mising from the non working wireless.  wlan_tkip,wlan_scan_sta how do i load manually load it/
[10:11] <ozzloy> Chapai: i think you want modprobe
[10:11] <Chapai> i thought so, but it did nothing ozzloy
[10:12] <ozzloy> Chapai: so it might be something like modprobe wlan_tkip
[10:12] <ozzloy> oh
[10:12] <ozzloy> well then i'm out of suggestions T_T
[10:12] <Chapai> tried that nothing
[10:12] <Chapai> it can be very frustration diagnosing a problem in ubuntu
[10:14] <laeg> doees synaptic keep some sort of record of installs and uninstalls?
[10:14] <Chapai> yes
[10:14] <haxt> why does banshee crash when you add to much music into it? how the hell does it have a buffer overflow this is supposed to be MORE stable than windows, not LESS
[10:14] <Chapai> /var/log/aptitude laeg
[10:14] <laeg> ty
[10:15] <Chapai> np
[10:15] <haxt> Chapai: are you next to the internetless machine?
[10:15] <haxt> or are you on it, on a different os
[10:15] <laeg> Chapai: "IMPORTANT: this log only lists intended actions; actions which fail due to
[10:15] <laeg> dpkg problems may not be completed.
[10:15] <laeg> "
[10:16] <Chapai> i am using it, (different partition)
[10:16] <Chapai> my logs, installed and unstalled using aptitude laeg
[10:16] <legend2440> esperegu: install gnome-alsamixer and set IEC958 sliders to zero
[10:16] <bullgard4> How often calls Ubuntu 8.04 ntpdate?
[10:16] <laeg> it doesn't show anything i installed via the synaptic package manager
[10:17] <Chapai> it even list dependancies intalled or kept laeg
[10:17] <legend2440> esperegu: alsaconf has been discontinued
[10:17] <Chapai> haxt, do you have a feeling of what it might be? i can switch
[10:17] <laeg> Chapai: it vexes me greatly that ubuntu gives me 3 different ways to install packages without specifying which is best and causing solutions to have a 1 in 3 chance of success.
[10:18] <Pupeno-G> How can I show a (GUI) message from the console?
[10:19] <Chapai> synaptic and aptitude are the same, one is just grpahical, i use aptitude laeg
[10:19] <laeg> if there the same why does /var/log not list things i've just installed?
[10:19] <laeg> in fact it only lists things i've installed via terminal
[10:20] <H__> anyone know where to get font-schumacher-misc for ubuntu ?
[10:20] <Chapai> huh, that might be laeg
[10:20] <|et> is there a way to get your video card identifier to input into xorg.conf because mine says generic card but i have an nvidia 7600
[10:21] <|et> but im not sure what to enter as identifier
[10:22] <laeg> Chapai: never fear synaptic has its own history. how does apt-get and applications > add remove compare to aptitude/synaptic? i was of the understanding that aptitude removes obsolete software when installing a new package but the two former do not?
[10:23] <ArthurArchnix> I've uninstalled pulse and switched everything in sound preferences over to alsa, but I still can't get system sounds to play. Things like clicks, logins, etc.
[10:23] <haxt> Chapai: well. have you tried selected roaming mode? and is it not allowign you to look for wireless networks at all because you say you're missing certain packages. if you know the names why dont you just install them
[10:23] <chmac> I have to use this to get iwl3945 working on Hardy http://linuxexpert.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/fix-intel-wireless-driver-on-hardy/
[10:23] <chmac> Is there a downside to editing /etc/modprobe.d/iwl3945? Is there a better solution?
[10:23] <haxt> Arthur: is ESD enabled?
[10:24] <pkundu> hi I have installed a driver for my laptop cam.The cam is now working fine but synaptic started reporting it as broken package and says to remove it.Can I stop this in synaptic ? thanks
[10:24] <pkundu> I am using ubuntu 7.10
[10:24] <Chapai> i have not uninstalled anything, and its not package i think i am missing, its modules from lsmod. haxt
[10:25] <ArthurArchnix> haxt... lemme check
[10:25] <laeg> brb
[10:26] <ArthurArchnix> I don't see ESD in sound preferences haxt
[10:27] <haxt> Arthur: System>Prefs>Sound and then click the Sounds tab, it's at the top
[10:27] <haxt> Chapai: i think you have to patch your lsmod with the appropriate modules but i dont know how :\
[10:28] <Chapai> thanks for your time anyway haxt,
[10:28] <haxt> Does anyone know how to make compiz not run when I boot, but not be uninstalled?
[10:29] <|et> is there a way to find out your video card identifier to input into xorg.conf because mine says generic card but i have an nvidia 7600 or is there a cmd to make it detect it?
[10:29] <esperegu> legend2440: the description saids it gives me the same functionality as alsamixer... but I was looking for more since alsamixer did not fix the fact that onboard spdif adapter does not provide sound.
[10:29] <Chapai> why not dissable effects haxt
[10:29] <MM2> How I disable that annoying start screen in emacs?
[10:29] <crdlb> haxt: system > preferences > appearance > visual effects > None
[10:29] <haxt> Chapai & crdlb: I can't get there when I boot normally
[10:29] <crdlb> |et: the Identifier is just a label; it has no semantic meaning
[10:29] <|et> ohh okay
[10:29] <|et> thankyou
[10:29] <Chapai> you only do it once haxt
[10:29] <crdlb> haxt: use the "Failsafe Gnome" session at the login screen
[10:30] <haxt> im in that right now cool
[10:30] <haxt> it will carry over?
[10:30] <Chapai> it should still be disabled when you reboot haxt
[10:30] <haxt> crdlb: do you know anything about compiz login hang issues with ati cards?
[10:30] <crdlb> haxt: explictly setting the effects level to None should do it
[10:30] <ArthurArchnix> haxt ... in gconf-editir, change the window_manager key to metacity from compiz
[10:30] <legend2440> esperegu: read #4 this may relate to your problem http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/no-output-through-spdif-but-analog-works.-how-do-i-get-output-through-spdif-265174/
[10:31] <Chapai> yeah what crdlb said
[10:31] <ArthurArchnix> haxt yup, esd is enabled.
[10:31] <haxt> Disabling compiz is only my last resort. I was able to run compiz perfectly fine and i got it all configured. But then I rebooted and now it hangs after I login if I try to do anything liek move a window or open a program.
[10:32] <Chapai> i am having shearing effects, lines in my videos can someone help, forumns got no solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=780358
[10:32] <haxt> Can anyone help me with troubleshooting? Possible xorg problems
[10:32] <legend2440> esperegu: he fixed it by installing gnome-alsamixer and setting IEC958P slider to zero
[10:32] <atmanam> try running it in terminal
[10:32] <atmanam> and see if any errors show up
[10:32] <haxt> talking to me atmanam?
[10:33] <atmanam> yup...sorry
[10:33] <H__> anyone know where to get font-schumacher-misc for ubuntu ?
[10:33] <haxt> I'm in failsafe atm, and if I type in compiz it removes al titlebars and then lags the computer UNTIL it finally freezes--including cursor--and no button combos work i ahve to reboot
[10:33] <atmanam> first kill the existing process using "sudo killall compiz.real"
[10:33] <esperegu> legend2440: I will try. but I have an onboard coax digital (working) and a bracket with coax&optical connected to mainboard spdif connector (not working under linux but on windows it works)
[10:33] <atmanam> and "sudo killall compiz-window-decorator"
[10:34] <atmanam> then type compiz --replace....and see if any errors show up
[10:34] <haxt> compiz isn't running. I'm in failsafe. :|
[10:34] <haxt> i did both of those killalls and they weren't running
[10:34] <haxt> there are no errors
[10:34] <atmanam> @haxt: ah..I missed the earlier conversation :)
[10:34] <haxt> the computer freezes
[10:34] <haxt> ah k
[10:35] <atmanam> @haxt: Could you please repeat your graphics card specs and stuff
[10:35] <ArthurArchnix> haxt: In failsafe, change that key I mentioned in gconf-editor to metacity.  Once you can run compiz without hanging the computer, you can change that key back. Simply disabling effects doesn't disable compiz. It's just compiz running and pretending its metacity. :)
[10:35] <Chapai> i am having shearing effects, lines in my videos can someone help, forumns got no solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=780358
[10:36] <haxt> atmanam: ATI Radeon 9600XT, using open-source ati drivers because proprietary(including using envyng) doesn't allow compiz to run
[10:36] <garrett__> is packages.ubuntu.com down?
[10:36] <esperegu> legend2440: hmm.. that box runs kubuntu... better use kmixer then
[10:36] <atmanam> @chapai:whats the mplayer vo driver?
[10:36] <crdlb> haxt: what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' say?
[10:37] <atmanam> @chapai: run mplayer from terminal on a video file and post the output please
[10:37] <haxt> atmanam: And the thing is, when I first enabled compiz is ran fine and now that I reboot it causes all these problems. I've seen problems similar to mine, even with the same card, but no one has really got any fixes that I've seen.
[10:37] <haxt> crdlb: ok just a sec
[10:37] <Chapai> hang on atmanam
[10:37] <haxt> crdlb: direct rendering: Yes
[10:37] <atmanam> @haxt: any manual modifications to /etc/X11/xorg.conf??
[10:38] <atmanam> @chapai:post it on pastebin
[10:38] <atmanam> @chapai:and send the link
[10:38] <haxt> atmanam: Only for resolution. I had added some AGP entries to FIX the problem but they gave me a black screen so I removed them from terminal.
[10:38] <tbenita> gnome planner has database support in debian but not in ubuntu ; any idea why ? http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/planner/planner_0.14.2-4/changelog
[10:38] <Chapai> i am aware atmanam
[10:38] <atmanam> @haxt: intersting
[10:39] <atmanam> @haxt: post the "Device" section of your xorg.conf
[10:39] <H__> I have an Radeon 9800 Pro, I use the proprietary fglrx (for OpenGL) driver, X works fine, but cannot shut down. Any ideas ?
[10:39] <haxt> Section "Device"
[10:39] <haxt> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]"
[10:39] <haxt> 	Driver		"ati"
[10:39] <haxt> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[10:39] <haxt> EndSection
[10:39] <Mithsir> Hi! Are X509 certs generated by mozilla (e.g. for cacert.org) affected by the recent openssh issue?
[10:40] <haxt> I had added AGPFastWrite, and AGPMode but they both killed the video before i could even get to failsafe
[10:40] <Assid> hrmm
[10:40] <Assid> haxt: dell laptop?
[10:40] <bullgard4> What program will be called when I click on System > Quit > Hibernate?
[10:40] <haxt> assid: lol what a random assumption. it's a pc i custmo built
[10:40] <haxt> custom*
[10:40] <atmanam> @haxt: replace the whole section with Section "Device"
[10:40] <atmanam> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[10:40] <atmanam> EndSection
[10:40] <atmanam>
[10:41] <Assid> k
[10:41] <atmanam> and then reboot
[10:41] <crdlb> atmanam: eh that won't work
[10:41] <haxt> yeah i dont think so
[10:41] <atmanam> @haxt: oh..he already tried that?
[10:41] <bullgard4> atmanam: Please do not use your Enter key as a substitute for interpunction.
[10:41] <crdlb> the Identifier will not match the Screen section, so it would just be ignored
[10:41] <esperegu> legend2440: no sliders. only 2 switches. and switching them makes no difference.
[10:41] <ArthurArchnix> Even then, it's just restoring it to default hardy behaviour. haxt obviously changed it to try and fix the issue.
[10:42] <atmanam> @bullgard: first time on irc
[10:42] <atmanam> :)
[10:42] <haxt> atmanam: no I haven't but I don't think that would resolve the issue because I didn't configure my video
[10:42] <legend2440> esperegu: you running kde?
[10:42] <haxt> I'll paste the ONLY changes I have made to xorg.conf
[10:42] <haxt> Section "Screen"
[10:42] <haxt> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[10:42] <haxt> 	Device		"ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]"
[10:42] <haxt> 	Monitor		"Generic Monitor"
[10:42] <haxt> 	DefaultDepth	24
[10:42] <haxt> 	SubSection	"Display"
[10:42] <esperegu> legend2440: linuxmce. I can switch to kde desktop
[10:42] <haxt> 	Depth		24
[10:42] <haxt> 	Modes		"1280x960@60"
[10:42] <haxt>         EndSubSection
[10:42] <msshams> how can i find that one of my packages where is installed?
[10:42] <haxt> The SubSection right there
[10:42] <haxt> is all I have added
[10:43] <ArthurArchnix> !pastebin | haxt
[10:43] <legend2440> esperegu: maybe they would know in channel #alsa
[10:43] <haxt> :X
[10:43] <esperegu> legend2440: good id
[10:43] <Chapai> atmanam, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13267/
[10:43] <haxt> I normally have +v or higher when im on a server :x
[10:44] <haxt> Could you see what I pasted?
[10:44] <harrizz>  hello Guys how can I run Python without the interpreter?
[10:44] <atmanam> @Chapai:edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[10:45] <MrNaz> running xubuntu, is there an analog to windows' systray? i.e., if i want to put pidgin somewhere it doesnt take up a slot on my taskbar, can that be done? or do i have to put it on another desktop insteda?
[10:45] <erUSUL> harrizz: a pythin script ? pt in the first line «#!/usr/bin/env python [options]»
[10:45] <Chapai> opened atmanam ( the problem is with all video, flash vlc ...)
[10:46] <haxt> atmanam & crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13268/
[10:46] <Ontolog> why does ubuntu refer to IDE drives using /dev/sda instead of /dev/hda? Will this effect performance? It seems hdparm isn't fully functional when referring to the drives via the /dev/sda device file
[10:46] <haxt> atmanam & crdlb: that SubSection is all I have added to xorg.conf
[10:46] <sun_> hi
[10:46] <atmanam> @chapai: oh..anyway for mplayer..you could try replacing video driver in mplayer.conf with "sdl", or "x11",or, "gl" in place of the standard xv
[10:47] <atmanam> @MrNaz: try trayer
[10:47] <ere4si> Ontolog: it means "special device" afaik - it shouldn't affect anything
[10:47] <MrNaz> ok
[10:47] <Chapai> i will try that maybe i can watch movies nicley in mplayer, thanks atmanam
[10:47] <MrNaz> atmanam thanks
[10:47] <ArthurArchnix> Ontolog: ASAIK... every distro has moved to this naming scheme. It's just the new standard.
[10:47] <sun_> hello everybody
[10:47] <atmanam> @MrNaz: please find more help on the xfce.org site and the xfce forums
[10:48] <haxt> sun_ hi
[10:48] <MrNaz> atmanam i dont think i'll need much more hand holding
[10:48] <atmanam> :)
[10:48] <MrNaz> but thanks for the pointer :)
[10:48] <erUSUL> Ontolog: new pata libata based drivers make them appear as sd (scsi disks)
[10:48] <ere4si> MrNaz: there is a plugin to do that - rght click the panel and select add
[10:48] <haxt> atmnam: did you see my pastebin?
[10:49] <Ontolog> but hdparm /dev/sda gives me the error HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[10:49] <Ontolog> but I'm pretty sure this is wrong
[10:49] <haxt> atmanam: did you?
[10:49] <LimCore> ikonia: shouldnt the openssh vulnerability tbe the first link in topic like it is in #debian ? its quite important
[10:49] <atmanam> :@haxt:
[10:49] <atmanam> @haxt: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/13269/
[10:49] <atmanam> its my own xorg.conf
[10:50] <kate321> Hello, I need help, does it possible to use the ubuntu (from terminal) to rerun perl script over & over ? ( i mean when the script done or crashed the system will load it again) ?
[10:50] <atmanam> since i also have a radeon card, it might help
[10:50] <LimCore> kate321: of course. as in any linux
[10:50] <LimCore> kate321: just write infinite loop in bash\
[10:50] <atmanam> @kate321: run the perl script from a bash script
[10:50] <rainier> I have an issue identify my HUAWEI wirelless moden. any suggestions please?
[10:50] <legend2440> Ontolog: when i do sudo hdparm /dev/sdb which is 80 gig Western Digital IDE with ubuntu on it (ext3) i get same errors. but in gutsy no errors
[10:50] <haxt> atmanam: what type of ati card do you have?
[10:50] <Myrtti> while [ true ]; do perl script.pl; done
[10:51] <kate321> LimCore: i dont know bash, can you help me ? or give me link to some bash loop example ?
[10:51] <LimCore> kate321:   while true ; do script.pl ; done
[10:51] <LimCore> kate321: for example paste in terminal this line:   while true ; do echo lol ; done
[10:51] <atmanam> @atmanam: radeon 7500 mobility on thinkpad t42
[10:51] <haxt> hehe you @'d to yourself :x
[10:51] <atmanam> @haxt: radeon 7500 on hardy
[10:51] <atmanam> :)
[10:52] <H__> atmanam you use fglrx ?
[10:52] <carstendod1> Hi! I try to install the newest version of code::blocks (a free IDE) on ubuntu 8.04. in the install it says "deb http://lgp203.free.fr/ubuntu/ distname universe" but ubuntu tells me, there is no "deb" command, what is wrong?
[10:52] <atmanam> @haxt: irc is too fast-paced man
[10:52] <atmanam> @haxt: fglrx wont work
[10:52] <atmanam> @haxt
[10:52] <haxt> atmanam: don't you think your settings would make my 9600xt bottleneck way lower than it should
[10:52] <atmanam> yes they would
[10:52] <atmanam> but they should make it work
[10:53] <atmanam> once you have a graphical shell
[10:53] <atmanam> you can use displayconfig-gtk to modify things in relative ease
[10:53] <atmanam> @haxt:*in->with
[10:54] <haxt> atmanam: lol i read it as with
[10:54] <Myrtti> carstendod1: the install says insert that line to your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:54] <carstendod1> Myrtti:  Youre right, that is no command.
[10:54]  * delcoyote hi
[10:54] <mm2000> hello dudes.
[10:54] <jaffarkelshac> hello
[10:54] <mm2000> what is happening?
[10:54] <atmanam> hi...does anyone know if the hard disk killing problem has been fixed in hardy?
[10:54] <LimCore> split
[10:54] <u007> flood...
[10:55]  * u007 run~
[10:55] <Myrtti> !netsplit
[10:55] <haxt> atmanam: if i change settings on displayconfig-gtk while in failsafe, they carry over right?
[10:55] <atmanam> sometime ago there was a post on slashdot about ubuntu killing laptop hardisks with excessive reads
[10:55] <atmanam> @haxt:mm...can you run displayconfig-gtk from failsafe?
[10:56] <haxt> yep
[10:56] <haxt> looking at it right now
[10:56] <atmanam> if you save them..the settings get written to xorg.conf
[10:56] <atmanam> so they should carry over
[10:56] <haxt> atmanam: should i try using radeon drivers instead of ati?
[10:57] <rainier> I have an issue identifying my HUAWEI wirelless moden. any suggestions please?
[10:57] <haxt> i've heard two stories: they aer the same, and one is better
[10:57] <rainier> modem*
[10:57] <atmanam> @haaxt:for me they did'nt work...i had to manually modify xorg.conf
[10:57]  * polz is having some problems after the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[10:57] <atmanam> @haxt: the displayconfig-gtk thing...i mean
[10:57] <polz> what do I have to do to get dmraid to work during boot ?
[10:58] <haxt> atmanam: ah. cuz it says Graphics card (ATI Radeon (fglrx))
[10:58] <jaffarkelshac> you need gksu or you cant change anything haxt
[10:58] <atmanam> @polz: add a file to /etc/init.d
[10:58] <bullgard4> What program will be called when I click on System > Quit > Hibernate?
[10:58] <haxt> jaffarkelshac: i always sudo every command i do lol
[10:58] <atmanam> @haxt:your card is differnt from mine
[10:58] <polz> atmanam: the kernel complains because it can't find the root partition
[10:58] <atmanam> @haxt: so fglrx might work for you
[10:59] <rainier> !compiz
[10:59] <atmanam> @polz: just after grub loads?
[10:59] <polz> atmanam: so I'm guessing I have to do something with the initramfs, I just don't know what
[10:59] <polz> atmanam: just after the kernel boots into initramfs
[10:59] <harrizz> Guyss.... How can i run a python file for example "ml.py", without opening the python interpreter.
[10:59] <atmanam> polz: never faced that before..sorry
[11:00] <harrizz> Guyss.... How can i run a python file for example "ml.py"? without opening the python interpreter.
[11:00] <atmanam> harizz: add #!/usr/bin/env python
[11:00] <AD7_> Hi immediately after login my display freezes. the mouse moves but I can't do anything (thus far) except ctrl-alt-backspace. how can I find the reason for this.
[11:00] <atmanam> to the beginning of the file
[11:00] <erUSUL> harrizz: pythin ml.pythin
[11:00] <erUSUL> harrizz: python ml.py
[11:00] <Ronald__> Hi all..
[11:00]  * erUSUL needs coffee
[11:00] <haxt> atmanam: have you ever seen/used compiz-check?
[11:00] <Moo_Ping> Anyone know how to use dd with a USB floppy drive or suggest an alternative program to use?  Thanks
[11:00] <Ronald__> is there already a set of documentation for the 8.04 version...?
[11:00] <polz> atmanam: where can I find a list of changes to the initramfs since 7.10 ?
[11:01] <atmanam> haxt: nope..what is that?
[11:01] <haxt> atmanam: checks if your current driver config works with compiz
[11:01] <atmanam> polz: umm..sorry..have absolutely no idea...but others might :)
[11:01] <polz> Others, help! ;)
[11:01] <vemon> polz, aptitude changelog package-name
[11:01] <atmanam> haxt: is'nt it easier to just run it ?
[11:02] <vemon> polz, or just see packages.ubuntu.com and check out the changelog
[11:02] <atmanam> polz: changelog size could be PRETTY big :)
[11:02] <haxt> atmanam: well it doesn't just say you CAN run it. it tests certain things
[11:02] <Ronald__> using google I have only found documentation for the 7.10 so far.. is there stuff on the 8.04 already...?
[11:02] <atmanam> haxt : k
[11:02] <polz> vemon: I was hoping for a shorter, hand-holding version ;)
[11:03] <haxt> atmanam: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13270/
[11:03] <oasisfai> has someone after upgraded hardy from gusty got randomly crash?
[11:03] <haxt> it also reads out that i'm using AiGLX
[11:03] <myriam> ola
[11:03] <haxt> even though displayconfig-gtk says otherwise
[11:03] <myriam> abla español
[11:04] <atmanam> haxt: it says radeon driver is already i use
[11:04] <haxt> it also says i'm USING radeon and not ati
[11:04] <myriam> wenas
[11:04] <haxt> i know all these things read differently
[11:04] <bullgard4> !es - myriam
[11:04] <myriam> ay algirn k m able
[11:04] <atmanam> haxt: do you have compositing enabled in xorg.conf?
[11:04] <crdlb> haxt: AIGLX is just part of the Xorg serve
[11:04] <crdlb> and radeon == ati, they're the same driver
[11:04] <haxt> atmanam where do i turn on compsiting
[11:04] <atmanam> @haxt: yup..they work the same anyway
[11:04] <crdlb> (technically ati is a wrapper for radeon)
[11:05] <atmanam> see my pastebin
[11:05] <crdlb> haxt: compiz wouldn't start at all if you didn't have composite enabled
[11:05] <haxt> crdlb: i've heard that they are the same, but i've heard sometimes one works and the other doesn't so. eh
[11:05] <polz> is it just me, or is packages.ubuntu.com having some problems ?
[11:05] <haxt> crdlb: could you think about what could be the problem with why it HANGS?
[11:05] <atmanam> crdkb: before i manually changed xorg.conf
[11:05] <atmanam> crdlb: compiz would start for a few seconds
[11:05] <crdlb> haxt: there are bugs in the r300 driver
[11:06] <atmanam> work..and then crash
[11:06] <crdlb> which should be fixed soon now that ATI has released full specs
[11:06] <legend2440> bullgard4: in synaptic package called pm-utils contains /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate. i think that is it
[11:06] <haxt> atmanam: thats what happens to me now
[11:06] <crdlb> several specific models of the 9600 are known to have issues
[11:06] <haxt> crdlb: yeah i've heard the 9600xt is the worst :X
[11:07] <haxt> crdlb: but here's what boggles my mind. when i finally got the drivers to work and compiz ran FINE for like 8 hours. then i rebooted and it hangs and causes the pc to freeze.
[11:07] <atmanam> haxt: did you modify xorg.conf between boots?
[11:07] <atmanam> haxt: coz it does'nt get read
[11:07] <crdlb> haxt: it could have been some sort of interaction between fglrx and the radeon driver (particularly the kernel modules)
[11:08] <atmanam> haxt: unless you reboot..or restart X
[11:08] <jaffarkelshac> bullgard4: did you find out the name of the applet
[11:08] <haxt> atmanam: i already told you all i have added in xorg is resolution
[11:08] <crdlb> fglrx may have initialized the GPU in some way that the radeon DRM does not
[11:08] <atmanam> haxt: try lsmod|grep radeon
[11:09] <haxt> crdlb: yeah it's something strange. that isn't obvious--atleast to me or anyone in the community.
[11:09] <haxt> logan@ubuntu:~$ lsmod|grep radeon
[11:09] <haxt> radeon                125472  2
[11:09] <haxt> drm                    83348  3 radeon
[11:09] <atmanam> haxt:see if the radeon or fglrx driver is loaded
[11:09] <atmanam> haxt: and lsmod|grep fglrx?
[11:10] <haxt> nothing
[11:10] <haxt> jsut goes to next line
[11:10] <haxt> just*
[11:10] <fran2> Hello
[11:10] <atmanam> haxt: dunnno what your problem is dude..sure is strange
[11:10] <fran2> Complete noob looking for ubuntu tech help here
[11:10] <haxt> atmanam: i'm using the open-source ati drivers
[11:11] <fran2> oooh !@#$ ati driver prob too?
[11:11] <haxt> first I tried to use EnvyNG, but it's proprietary drivers didn't allow compiz to run at all
[11:11] <haxt> fran2: yes.
[11:11] <haxt> fran2: radeon 9600xt, you?
[11:11] <recon69> hi all, recently changed my GC from a NVIDIA 6800 to a AIT 9800 , there is a graphics program that I use , when i compile it now it is unable to find libGL and does not compile the opengl bit of the program, anyone have any ideas what I am missing
[11:12] <haxt> recon69: drivers that support ogl
[11:12] <atmanam> haxt:fran2: check thinkwiki.org
[11:12] <crdlb> recon69: are you using the open source driver or fglrx?
[11:12] <atmanam> it helped me out with my problem..might help you guys too
[11:12] <recon69> using fglrc
[11:12] <fran2> running 9800 here
[11:13] <crdlb> recon69: try xorg-driver-fglrx-dev then
[11:13] <atmanam> but seriously..whats the point of compositing..it hardly adds anything to functionality..its just a lot of eyecandy
[11:13] <fran2> thinkwiki.org... thx
[11:13] <haxt> crdlb: could you tell me the differences between the os ati drivers and fglrx?
[11:13] <haxt> if you know
[11:14] <atmanam> haxt: os ati drivers->releases by ati
[11:14] <crdlb> haxt: "ati" is the open source driver developed by the community and fglrx is ATI (now AMD)'s proprietary blob
[11:14] <atmanam> crdlb: is'nt that the other way round..but i'm not sure myself
[11:15] <haxt> crdlb: functionality wise, ati doesn't have ogl and fglrx does--is that about it?
[11:15] <crdlb> haxt: they both support OpenGL
[11:15] <recon69> crdlb: I have all the  xorg-driver-fglrx drivers installed
[11:15] <crdlb> recon69: but do you have xorg-driver-fglrx-dev installed?
[11:15] <haxt> crdlb: is there a way to test ogl support?
[11:16] <recon69> glxinfo I think
[11:16] <crdlb> haxt: 'glxinfo | grep direct' is a primative method
[11:16] <crdlb> haxt: the problem is that the open source driver's 3d support on r300 and up (you have an rv350) was reverse-engineered
[11:17] <crdlb> but now ATI has released specs, so the major problems should be fixed
[11:17] <haxt> I don't think I even have an RV350, I think that's wrong. I think I have an RV360--in fact I'm sure of it. I have a Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600xt, not 9600 plain
[11:17] <carstendod1> hi, i would like to program small programs with code::blocks, i already got it installed, but it tells me now that g++ is missing, how can I add g++?
[11:18] <haxt> but technically the identifier doesn't do anythign right
[11:18] <Starnestommy> carstendod1: install build-essential and g++ with the package manager
[11:18] <atmanam> haxt: do lspci|grep VGA
[11:18] <recon69> my glxinfo http://rafb.net/p/TOfPif45.html
[11:18] <crdlb> haxt: yep, it's just a label used to match the device section to the screen section
[11:18] <carstendod1> Starnestommy:  Thank you!
[11:19] <atmanam> carstendodl: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:19] <haxt> crdlb: cool. well thanks you have helped more than most. i came in here to be helped and ended up helping for longer than being heled lol :x
[11:19] <bullgard4> legend2440: I don't think that it is this.
[11:19] <haxt> atmanam: what about it? just reads out my identifier
[11:20] <haxt> atmanam: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]
[11:20] <recon69> wonders if it would be easier to put my nvidia 6800 back in the computer
[11:22] <fran2> Hi all. Using Hardy and now experiencing hiccups and glitches in audio and video on my AMD box with ati 9800 saffire. Anyone have this prob? Everything was ok in Fiesty.
[11:23] <rigolo> !synaptics
[11:23] <studente> Hello
[11:23] <fran2> :-D
[11:23] <rigolo> hi
[11:24] <studente> I quit my upgrade manager when upgrading at the moment of removing some packets. Now, Gutsy doesn't start
[11:24] <chmac> Just installed 8.04. `cp -ua ./* /dest/` doesn't include hidden files, unlike Fedora. Is there a way I can include hidden files with cp?
[11:24] <jaffarkelshac> some links in firefox has logged  of me ubuntu on several ocassions and now when open firefox, it covers both panels. but not in fullscreen mode. i only get out of by going fullscreen and out.
[11:25] <haxt> crdlb: would you perhaps know how to mount an ide fat32 harddrive?
[11:25] <haxt> i've used so many filesystem acronyms but to no avail, fat/fat32/vfat
[11:25] <jaffarkelshac> have you used sudo fdisk -l to find the device name haxt
[11:26] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[11:26] <studente> Can anyone help please?
[11:26] <shichiroji> hello
[11:26] <haxt> jaffarkelshac: mount -t FILESYS /dev/sda2 /mnt/nexus -o force
[11:26] <haxt> i just dont know what filesys to use
[11:26] <chmac> studente: I think you'll get a better response if you post a specific error message
[11:27] <haxt> it says Extended when i fdisk -l but it's a FAT32 partiion
[11:27] <jaffarkelshac> if its a fat32 put fat32 i would think haxt
[11:27] <chmac> haxt: I think if you leave the type out it will figure it out automagically :)
[11:27] <bullgard4> studente: Try to boot one of the intact kernels using Grub.
[11:27] <rainier> can any one help me identifying my HUAWEI wireless modem? any suggestions please?
[11:28] <haxt> jaffarkelshac: i know, i've tried auto, fat, fat32, and vfat
[11:28] <haxt> cdmac: me too, but it doesnt work
[11:28] <chmac> rainier: What do you mean identify? Do you know what model it is?
[11:28] <haxt> cdmac: doing -t auto is liek leaving it blank
[11:28] <studente> There is any. My manager had done all the necessary nearly. When asked about removing packets I accidentaly closed it.
[11:28] <chmac> haxt: You talking to me? Normally your client will auto complete if you type the first few letters of a nick and then press tab
[11:29] <chmac> haxt: As I'm chmac rather than cdmac! :)
[11:29] <AaronH> rainier, do you see your wireless card with this command "lshw -C network"
[11:29] <AaronH> ?
[11:29] <haxt> chmac: woops sorry lol
[11:29] <studente> What happened is when the Ubuntu loading logo appears it just stays there without booting, my hdd is mute and finally a init console apperead
[11:29] <chmac> AaronH: I think it's a 3g modem rather than a wifi card
[11:30] <garrett__> Hm.  I'm trying to install 8.04 from cd.  It boots up fine, but it drops me to the installer shell after it loads the kernel.  I'm getting "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0" in dmesg.  Is there any reason it's trying and failing to load something from my floppy drive?  does this account for it?
[11:30] <studente> bullgard4: I will, thanks
[11:30] <chmac> Anyone know how to copy hidden directories recursively with cp?
[11:30] <haxt> Anyone here using gfxboot for grub?
[11:30] <mm2000> this java-plugin drives me insane! :@
[11:30] <mm2000> anyon here up for some help?
[11:30] <rainier> chmac: I ment identifying the USB. the problem is in the USB. using dmesg -c always shows a fail error in the specific USB.
[11:30] <garrett__> ("it" being the lack of getting past the kernel load in the installer)
[11:30] <mm2000> I have been trying to make it work for a very long time now without success..
[11:30] <haxt> chmac: cp -r ?
[11:31] <garrett__> i also tried to mount /dev/scd0 (my cdrom), but i couldn't get it to mount with any of the fs-types listed in "modprobe -l | grep fs"
[11:31] <chmac> haxt: `cp -r blah/* /dest/` doesn't copy hidden files for some reason...
[11:31] <laeg> synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop along with pulseaudio - will this cause problems?
[11:31] <studente> bullgard4: seems to boot
[11:31] <AaronH> mm2000, I can help you with your java
[11:32] <AaronH> mm2000, I sent you a PM
[11:32] <perfector> can i lock my screen without the screensaver??
[11:32] <bullgard4> studente: If it boots and you come to a working operating system, then you can try once again to upgrade.
[11:32] <chmac> perfector: Click on the power icon (top left of clock), then lock screen
[11:32] <haxt> chmac: run it as root?
[11:33] <jaffarkelshac> some links in firefox has logged  of me ubuntu on several ocassions and now when open firefox, it covers both panels. but not in fullscreen mode. i only get out of by going fullscreen and out.
[11:33] <perfector> most of these screensavers consume a lot of cpu resources...... thats the reason i asked..
[11:33] <chmac> haxt: Doing that, it's copying from a fedora home dir, but I can't see why that would matter
[11:33] <perfector> chmac: no actually i use a windowmanager..
[11:33] <studente> i'll try
[11:33] <jatt> perfector: you will not using your PC while the screensaver is on, why do you need the CPU power for?
[11:33] <chmac> perfector: What does that mean?
[11:33] <haxt> chmac: well if the files are hidden root might be able to copy them i would think anyways.
[11:34] <KyHilBly56> when i booted up into the live cd for 8.04 i got an error "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon"
[11:34] <perfector> jatt: to run some aps in the background
[11:34] <haxt> wait wai twait
[11:34] <chmac> haxt: Command isn't working as root, but `cp -r folder dest/` works, but not with the wildcard
[11:34] <haxt> chmac: ok wait
[11:34] <haxt> chmac: are you talking about . files?
[11:34] <chmac> haxt: Yep
[11:34] <dougsko> perfector: you can always nice the screensaver -19
[11:34] <perfector> chmac: what r u asking abt?
[11:35] <ubuntu_> excuse me but the chanel ubuntu italien?
[11:35] <chmac> perfector: You said "no actually i use a windowmanager.." - I'm not sure what you mean
[11:35] <haxt> chmac: cp --recursive /olddir/.[a-zA-Z0-9]* /newdir
[11:35] <haxt> chmac: that should work
[11:35] <perfector> chmac: i dont use gnome..
[11:35] <chmac> ubuntu_: #ubuntu-it I think :)
[11:35] <ubuntu_> thank's ;)
[11:36] <chmac> perfector: Which window manager do you use?
[11:36] <perfector> chmac: fluxbox
[11:36] <chmac> haxt: Do you know why /* doesn't include . files? It does on Fedora...
[11:36]  * dougsko highfives perfector
[11:36] <haxt> chmac: you need that extra wildcard i put in there
[11:36] <perfector> dougsko: i didnt get what u meant? like what wud the entire command be..
[11:37] <studente> But that's hardy
[11:37] <haxt> chmac: that [a-zA-Z0-9]
[11:37] <dougsko> perfector: nice -19 <screensaver>
[11:37] <perfector> dougsko: example when i use xscreensaver or xlock??
[11:37] <studente> how can I upgrade than?
[11:37] <jaffarkelshac> where can i find commands available for xchat
[11:37] <chmac> haxt: I get what that does, but I'm not sure why the behaviour is different, that's my question
[11:37] <dougsko> perfector: nice -19 xlock
[11:37] <chmac> jaffarkelshac: /help
[11:37] <haxt> chmac: i think that's why fedora is fedora, and ubuntu is debian sid lol
[11:37] <perfector> dougsko: so it wont run the screensaver??
[11:37] <chmac> haxt: lol
[11:37] <chmac> haxt: Ok, so debian is just different in that regard
[11:37] <perfector> dougsko: oh it just drops the priority u mean??
[11:37] <jaffarkelshac> cheers chmac
[11:38] <perfector> dougsko: so everytime i launch the screensaver i have to do it..
[11:38] <tv7497> i just downloaded and installed supybot but couldnt run it any idea guys ????????
[11:38] <dougsko> perfector: itll run it but with the lowest possible cpu priority. that way, itll minimally impact anything else youre doing
[11:38] <haxt> chmac: i suppose. i never encountered the problem but I just remember the extra wildcard. I don't know how fedora works.
[11:38] <chmac> haxt: It seems logical to me that /* would include . files, anyway...
[11:38] <perfector> dougsko: not very efficient dont u think??
[11:38] <haxt> chmac: well see. you might copy them wtihout knowing. extra space being used
[11:39] <perfector> dougsko: isnt any other way to do it using xlock or xscreensaver or anything else?
[11:39] <dougsko> perfector: its quite efficient, just alias it in your .bashrc like this --> alias xlock='nice -19 xlock'
[11:39] <KyHilBly56> when i booted up into the live cd for 8.04 i got an error "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon"
[11:39] <haxt> chmac: and in so many uses it might cause problems? who knows. the alphanumeric wildcard is easy to remember
[11:39] <chmac> haxt: lol, it's long to type though, and "to avoid accidents" doesn't sound like a reason that would fly with die hard hackers! :)
[11:40] <perfector> dougsko: hmmm... worth a try.. actually i was planning to bind it to my fluxbox keys or load the app during startup
[11:40] <haxt> chmac: haha die hard hackers use ubuntu? good one
[11:40] <dougsko> perfector: i was just gonna say that
[11:40] <bazhang> KyHilBly56, did you md5 the iso as well as do the cd integrity check; what speed did you burn the iso at
[11:40] <haxt> chmac: when i put on my black hat I run knoppix-std 8)
[11:40] <KyHilBly56> yes it was all good
[11:40] <dougsko> haxt: why not? all the tools on knoppix are available for ubuntu
[11:40] <bazhang> !ot | haxt
[11:41] <Gnontghol> haxt: But Ubuntu requires no maintainance
[11:41] <chmac> perfector: Can you choose a screensaver which is just a blank screen?
[11:41] <chmac> perfector: That can't use much cpu can it?
[11:41] <perfector> dougsko: the best way would be if either of these screen locking apps have an option like that inbuilt.. but i cant seem to find it
[11:41] <haxt> bazhang: i dont need you telling me what to do. if anyone is being offtopic it's you talking to me. thanks.
[11:41] <KyHilBly56> so i couldnt set the video res...just 800x600
[11:42] <haxt> gnotghol: ubuntu has required a lot of maintenance for me, atleast every time a new release comes out
[11:42] <bazhang> KyHilBly56, get into the grub menu and remove quiet and splash from the kernel you are booting
[11:42] <chmac> perfector: You said you're not using Gnome, are you using KDE instead? Fluxbox is a replacement for metacity as I understand it, not for gnome
[11:42] <RaverWild> helllo people. running ubuntu 8.04, regularly updated. since I upgraded to 8.04 i can't switch keyboard layouts with the keys assigned (both alt keys) neither with other (just tried). only solution is to click on the layour icon on screen. anyone with similar problem and eventually solutions please?
[11:42] <perfector> chmac: hmm.. better option, pretty confusing dont u think?
[11:42] <dougsko> perfector: thats not the unix way :) one great app for one task. 'nice' does scheduling, and xlock locks up the screen
[11:42] <psyxac> cant install  the ubuntu
[11:42] <perfector> chmac: no desktop manager at all
[11:42] <psyxac> neone can help me
[11:42] <bazhang> haxt please take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[11:42] <KyHilBly56> im a newb, lol
[11:42] <KyHilBly56> can i do that in the live cd boot?
[11:42] <haxt> bazhang: stfu please. i'm not ot i've been helping people and now you try to start regulating and you're not even helping.
[11:43] <bazhang> !stfu | haxt
[11:43] <psyxac> tried a lot to install like novell ubuntu kubuntu etc etc but couldnt succeded in it
[11:43] <haxt> bazhang: jsut so you know i +x you kthxbai
[11:43] <perfector> dougsko: how true.. i was actually looking in a different direction.. if i cant get it that way then i guess using nice would be the only option
[11:43] <psyxac> cant install the ubuntu neone can help me
[11:43] <haxt> Weird people in this world. Think they are better than others and have high HIGH horses.
[11:43] <jaffarkelshac> is there an alternative to compiz, its is causing a few issues.
[11:44] <psyxac> cant install the ubuntu neone can help me
[11:44] <haxt> chmac: so did that cmd work?
[11:44] <psyxac> excuse me plz
[11:44] <psyxac> neone can help
[11:44] <frojnd> hello guys. Yesterday I installed ubuntu server and after it fluxbox. But I am NOT able to get any sound. I've installed alsa-base and alsa-oss but I'm still not able to have any sound. Can someone please help me out ?
[11:44] <KyHilBly56> bazhang: can i do that in the live cd boot?
[11:44] <faileas> Is there a working mirror of the seveas repos? the HP one is down and the mirror's package for installing the reops are down
[11:44] <haxt> bazhang: oh I get it, it's an azn thing
[11:44] <bazhang> KyHilBly56, sure, just hit esc to get into the grub menu then hit e to edit and scroll down and look for quiet and splash and remove them then save and boot and you will be able to see the exact errors
[11:45] <chmac> haxt: I didn't try the [a-zA-Z0-9] option, that's way too much typing, just src/ works
[11:45] <dougsko> perfector: take advantage of the aliasing too. its one of the biggest time saving things you can do
[11:45] <faileas> psyxac: why can't you install? also, you're more likely to get help if you're specific and don't spam the channel
[11:45] <KyHilBly56> im new how do i get into the grub menu..sorry
[11:45] <RaverWild> helllo people. running ubuntu 8.04, regularly updated. since I upgraded to 8.04 i can't switch keyboard layouts with the keys assigned (both alt keys) neither with other (just tried). only solution is to click on the layour icon on screen. anyone with similar problem and eventually solutions please?
[11:45] <haxt> chmac: you just typed it LOL
[11:45] <faileas> KyHilBly56: you need to change something there?
[11:45] <faileas> oh wait...
[11:45] <gordonjcp> !ask | psyxac
[11:45]  * faileas facepalms
[11:45] <dougsko> KyHilBly56: on boot up when it says, Grub Loading....  hit 'esc'
[11:45] <perfector> dougsko: i do that often... thx dougsko
[11:46] <dougsko> yup
[11:46] <bazhang> !coc > haxt read the pm from the bot
[11:46] <faileas> there seems to be no feisty seveas repo, so i'm asking the wrong question
[11:46] <DellGuy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=673969    < LOL
[11:46] <chmac> haxt: lol, indeed, too long to use on an ongoing basis though
[11:46] <KyHilBly56> dougsko: that stuff scrolls by quickly, i'm not sure i even saw that
[11:46] <psyxac> ok ok my problem is when i tried to install it it goes upto the time zone after dat it didn go further just stuck dere........n i hav to shut it down by power cut to pc....
[11:46] <haxt> chmac: i suppose. but if you remember for the future it could be useful.
[11:46] <chmac> haxt: I'll bear it in mind, thanks
[11:47] <dougsko> KyHilBly56: it is quick. its right after the BIOS screen. when your booting, just hit 'esc' a bunch. you might enter your bios; if you do, just quit it and keep hitting escape and youll get in
[11:47] <Ontolog> Does apt-get install linux-686 actually do anything? I saw the comments for this package is that it is a "Dummy package can be removed" and installing it installs something very small less than 50kb
[11:47] <dougsko> KyHilBly56: or just pay attention and watch :)
[11:47] <KyHilBly56> lol
[11:47] <KyHilBly56> ok man i'll try
[11:47] <psyxac> is it mbr problem?
[11:48] <KyHilBly56> this is on the live cd boot now, not a perm install...does that make a diff
[11:48] <dougsko> Ontolog: thats a meta package for one of the more specific kernels. you install that, and itll pick the most recent 686 kernel for you
[11:49] <gordonjcp> psyxac: try with the dat disconnected, maybe it's a SCSI problem?
[11:49] <dougsko> KyHilBly56: 99% sure it should be the same
[11:49] <KyHilBly56> ok
[11:49] <Ontolog> dougsko: ok so by installing linux-686 a new kernel was indeed installed?
[11:50] <dougsko> Ontolog: unless you already have the newest
[11:50] <psyxac> gordonjcp: i tried with disabled installng in NOVELL suse....den i got da same
[11:50] <frojnd> anyone please ? I'm trying to get sound for hours now..
[11:51] <KyHilBly56> i dual-boot w/w2k and xp, i suppose ubuntu will let me triple-boot right?
[11:51] <dougsko> KyHilBly56: yeah but windows might not since its the first OS on the disk. im not sure if thats still an issue or what. but bottom line- yes
[11:51] <haxt> !coc > bazhang
[11:52] <tv7497> fronjd : isnt ur sound card working
[11:52] <psyxac> i tried den next level i mean by enabling i got da same disease so wht to do now???????can ne of da guyz here tell me
[11:52] <faileas> KyHilBly56: done it before
[11:52] <legend2440> frojnd: what is make and model of sound card?
[11:52] <cgentry72> does anyone know how to get sound to work in alien arena
[11:52] <KyHilBly56> the docs say to have windows installed 1st i believe doesnt it?
[11:52] <tv7497> legend2440 :oh hello sir
[11:52] <legend2440> tv7497: hello
[11:52] <KyHilBly56> cuz windows will overwrite the mbr...
[11:52] <faileas> KyHilBly56: all that will happen is ubuntu will chainload ntldr, so to boot windows, you select windows from grub, and xp or 2k from ntldr
[11:53] <KyHilBly56> thanks
[11:53] <haxt> lol
[11:53] <jaffarkelshac> i have a few issues with compiz, i have a shearing effects in all my video when compiz is enabled, and lins in firefox occassionaly logg me off, and now when i open firefox it covers, the whole screen but no in fullscreen mode. any help on how to fix these issues, short of disabling effects? (no reponse in #compiz)
[11:53] <Myrtti> hum
[11:53] <haxt> Anyone here using gfxboot for grub?
[11:53] <tv7497> myrtti : well its working now
[11:54] <bullgard4> What program will be called when I click on System > Quit > Hibernate?
[11:54] <dougsko> KyHilBly56: yeah youre right. i knew there was some cavat involved with windows and linux dual booting like that
[11:54] <deneme123456789> look F11 detailes on reboot
[11:54] <tv7497> myrtti : :-)
[11:54] <gordonjcp> cgentry72: is it quake3 based?
[11:54] <faileas> dougsko: as long as you boot the windows partition first
[11:54] <faileas> erm
[11:54] <faileas> install the windows partition first
[11:54] <KyHilBly56> i suppose it wont hose my windows install (i hope!)
[11:54] <cgentry72> gordonjcp: i don't really know
[11:54] <dougsko> faileas: right.
[11:54] <KyHilBly56> everythings already backed up *shrug*
[11:55] <faileas> KyHilBly56: the 'risky' part is redizing it
[11:55] <DJones> bazhang: Is it ok to PM for a sec
[11:55] <jaffarkelshac> ever since i started using ubuntu full time my experience with it is getting worst with time. things are very difficult to diagnoss and even fix
[11:55] <dougsko> KyHilBly56: itll be a blessing in disguise if it does haha
[11:55] <bazhang> DJones, sure
[11:55] <KyHilBly56> lmao doug...i already have a seperate partition (30GB)
[11:55] <faileas> jaffarkelshac: i tend to feel its a matter of getting used to it
[11:55] <psyxac> it seems dat nobody has my problems solution???/////////
[11:55] <Ontolog> how do I find which package a command is in?
[11:55] <psyxac> huh
[11:55] <Ontolog> for example, I want to find the "dos2unix" command
[11:55] <ck80> locate
[11:55] <cgentry72> gordonjcp: its been compared to quake i know that
[11:56] <idimmu> is there an easy way to remove all packages supplied by ubuntu-desktop?
[11:56] <KyHilBly56> do i have to format it to fat32 before installing onto an ntfs part or will ubuntu do that for me?
[11:56] <KristianL> Ontolog: apt-cache search, if that doesn't work, you got apt-file search
[11:56] <faileas> idimmu: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[11:56] <dougsko> Ontolog: 'which <command>' will show you where stuff is
[11:56] <frojnd> legend2440:  0 [CK8S           ]: NFORCE - NVidia CK8S     NVidia CK8S with ALC850 at irq 17
[11:56] <tv7497> jaffearkelshac : dude its some what diffrent for me its getting better
[11:56] <esteth_> Is there a way for me to set a static IP in roaming mode?
[11:56] <idimmu> faileas: that just removes the single meta package
[11:56] <Ontolog> dougsko: it's not installed yet haha
[11:56] <ompaul> !install | KyHilBly56 please read this for fuller information
[11:56] <KristianL> Ontolog: I answered you :)
[11:56] <Ontolog> thanks i'll try the apt-cache search
[11:56] <gordonjcp> cgentry72: there are some specific things you need to do to get quake3 sound working
[11:57] <KyHilBly56> great, thanks
[11:57] <whymarkwh> hi there need some help setting up postfix mail to be send to exchange server(to be relayed by exchange server)?
[11:57] <nadrosima> never use remove command of font or global exec
[11:57] <gordonjcp> cgentry72: a quick google for something like "quake3 ubuntu" will turn something up fairly quickly
[11:57] <dougsko> idimmu: if youve been using aptitude, you can remove the desktop package and itll automatically remove any orphaned deps
[11:57] <psyxac>  my problem is when i tried to install it it goes upto the time zone after dat it didn go further just stuck dere........n i hav to shut it down by power cut to pc....
[11:57] <under> hi
[11:58] <KyHilBly56> !install
[11:58] <KyHilBly56> !automate
[11:58] <bazhang> KyHilBly56, please /msg ubottu keyword for more info
[11:59] <KyHilBly56> ok sorry...new here
[11:59] <usuario_> wenasssssss
[11:59] <Ontolog> I want to list all the files a given package provides
[11:59] <usuario_> ablar español
[11:59] <ompaul> !es | usuario_
[11:59] <Ontolog> I tried apt-cache showpkg but no go
[11:59] <usuario_> helllo
[11:59] <psyxac> my problem is when i tried to install it it goes upto the time zone after dat it didn go further just stuck dere........n i hav to shut it down by power cut to pc...
[12:00] <usuario_> hello
[12:00] <ompaul> !es | usuario_
[12:00] <usuario_> whaht the time
[12:00] <Myrtti> !english | usuario_
[12:00] <nadrosima> add keyy ur dpkg list
[12:00] <usuario_> hello
[12:00] <stothepizzle> if i'm doing an install and i want to specify that the boot loader goes to /dev/mmcblk0 how do i do that?
[12:00] <Le^stat> hi
[12:01] <gordonjcp> psyxac: so what's the dat for?
[12:01] <gordonjcp> psyxac: can you install without it to see if that works?
[12:01] <mgolisch> stothepizzle: select manual bootloader installation from the setup menu?
[12:01] <mgolisch> stothepizzle: asuming you are using the alternatecd
[12:01] <stothepizzle> no, i'm not
[12:01] <stothepizzle> graphicsal install cd
[12:02] <psyxac> it means when i install NOVELL suse it goes upto time zone and when i want to install ubuntu it didnt start
[12:02] <whymarkwh> if my exchange server is: rcc.mail(added in host.conf as  <IP_ADDRESS>  rcc.mail) then i added this line in postfix(relayhost=rcc.mail) will this foward all mail to my exchange server(rcc.mail)?
[12:02] <mgolisch> if the desktop cd doesnt offer that chroot into your installation from the livecd and setup the bootloader manualy using grub-install or the grub console
[12:02] <xd_> hi, I want to compare directory trees, and have listed the differences (either in a file, or onscreen) would prefer a graphical (gnome) interface. I DO NOT want to compare byte by byte. Just size, and timestamp would be enough (its gigabytes of files to compare, that would not work with byte by byte)
[12:02] <xd_> what can I use for that ?
[12:02] <psyxac> i tried a lot of ways to install it but it seems it got me
[12:02] <stothepizzle> ok mgolisch, are you saying i cant?
[12:03] <psyxac> so if u hav ne ideas to give me den plz u r welcome
[12:03] <xd_> I tried mc (it only compares the active directory, and does not dive into structure)
[12:03] <stothepizzle> i'm looking at ready to install->advanced and it says Device for bootloader isnstallation: (hd0)
[12:03] <xd_> neither gnome commander does the job,
[12:03] <mgolisch> stothepizzle: and you cant change that?
[12:03] <stothepizzle> mgolisch i can
[12:03] <stothepizzle> i want to know what to change it to
[12:04] <xd_> making md5summs of each dir is to complicated
[12:04] <mgolisch> if there is no button or something id try to just skip that part and do the grub install manualy
[12:04] <LimCore> xd_: there should be like md5deep command afair
[12:04] <stothepizzle> mgolisch i can change (hdo) to anything
[12:04] <LimCore> p   md5deep                         - enhanced message digest calculator
[12:04] <nadrosima> i need create global variables on py web pages so for search can send me a person simple codes?
[12:04] <stothepizzle> should i change it to /dev/mmcblk0?
[12:05] <ushimitsudoki> xd_: what if you just ran a diff against the listing of the directories?
[12:05] <xd_> LimCore, but I need to do a Md5 diff than. This takes ages on something like 10GB
[12:05] <psyxac> so again everyone just thinkin or shuttin
[12:05] <mgolisch> stothepizzle: no not neccerarily, hd0 in grub means the  first bios disks, if that mmcblk0 thing is that its ok
[12:06] <stothepizzle> ok, so how do i find the (hdX) of my mmc card?
[12:06] <wersdaluv> how do I change GDM's resolution? my grub, usplash, and gnome session screens are correct except for my gdm screen
[12:06] <erUSUL> xd_: diff ?
[12:06] <gordonjcp> stothepizzle: it'll be /dev/sd<something>
[12:06] <stothepizzle> gordonjcp it isn't
[12:06] <xd_> ushimitsudoki, thats what I tried, but the usual command I use takes to long. I just want a rough compare. There is no MD5 Compare necessary. I just want to know if a file is missing, or has another timestamp
[12:06] <stothepizzle> its /dev/mmblk0
[12:06] <gordonjcp> stothepizzle: at a console type "dmesg", plug the card in, and type "dmesg" again
[12:07] <gordonjcp> stothepizzle: see what changes
[12:07] <xd_> erUSUL, yes , but Diff is not something fast, and comes out with a lot of unneccessary things
[12:07] <mgolisch> stothepizzle: easiest way is to call the grub binary and try something like setup (hd[tab] and see how grub expands that
[12:07] <mgolisch> it will list the partitions and its types
[12:07] <ushimitsudoki> xd_ strange. because i would expect ls on two directories and diff to be very quick (i have done this on directories with 25K+ files)
[12:07] <xd_> I want to have a list of the files which are different. I have to do a lot of those operations. Using diff would take hours
[12:08] <mgolisch> iam quiet sure you can determine which disk is which by that
[12:08] <nadrosima> stothepizzle if u install linux partition alone u need add another system in your boot screen manualy be cause not write MBR registry your other system key
[12:09] <xd_> ushimitsudoki, hmm. Ok you mean ls command. hmm this could work, but still is a lot to type. Looking for something where I can point to, and not type everything. i have to do this on different disks and structures
[12:10] <xd_> maybe some synchronizing utility or so, which gives out different files, and shows in which folders there are differences
[12:12] <zubu> bazhang: how can i reinstall hardy from cd. i am using hardy!
[12:12] <bazhang> zubu is this a dual boot or only ubuntu
[12:13] <faileas> zubu: reboot with it, do a fresh or repair install
[12:13] <zubu> bazhang: i am using hardy! from hard disk .i have a hardy beta CD!
[12:14] <mgolisch> zubu: why that?
[12:14] <bazhang> zubu the beta? you should get the final cd
[12:14] <steve_j> hi all is packages.ubuntu.com down for you too?
[12:14] <bazhang> steve_j, aye
[12:15] <Guillaum3> greets gents. this happens almost everywhere i install ubuntu
[12:15] <LimCore> steve_j: ping goes, but site doesnt load
[12:15] <zubu> bazhang:actually my frend had downaloaded it somee time back.thats why. and you kno about my graphics card problem.
[12:15] <Guillaum3> ...via the console i can't see the windows pc's by hostname
[12:15] <zubu> bazhang: not to mention the  low graphics mode problem
[12:15] <bazhang> zubu do you a slow internet connection? if not you should get the final
[12:16] <rgs80074> hello everyone
[12:16] <Guillaum3> so if i go: 'ping windowspc' it tells me the host is not found, but i can access it via smb://windowspc/
[12:16] <rgs80074> everone still busy with other peoples problems?  or does someone have time for me to ask some questions about networking
[12:16] <LimCore> !ask
[12:16] <mgolisch> Guillaum3: yeah sure, smb uses netbios name resolution not dns
[12:16] <bazhang> rgs80074, ask away
[12:17] <Guillaum3> mgolisch: how would i make my console be able to read these windows hostnames?
[12:17] <Guillaum3> LimCore: sorry.
[12:17] <pestkam> Guillaum3: becose windows firewall is on... turn of, or reconfigure
[12:17] <steve_j> LimCore presumably that's also why i can't install openssh server from security.ubuntu.com.... too?
[12:17] <Guillaum3> pestkam: firewalls are not the case
[12:17] <dougsko> Guillaum3: yeah it sounds like something is filtering icmp packets...either your router or windows fw (most likely)
[12:18] <Guillaum3> dougsko: we have another ubuntu machine which is able to see these hostnames like such on the same network
[12:18] <rgs80074> i can't seem to get networking to work
[12:18] <pestkam> Guillaum3: you windows domain?
[12:18] <dougsko> Guillaum3: well then its not your router
[12:18] <zubu> bazhang:i have descent speed. but i am not in the mood to download it.what would you suggest? after all that low  gaphics problem i was considering downgrading to Gusty since it was working fine!(it even used to show the nvidia wallpaper at startup)
[12:18] <dougsko> Guillaum3: you can nmap -P0 -p135 <host> to check if its up
[12:18] <pestkam> Guillaum3: Are you use windows domain?
[12:18] <bazhang> rgs80074, this is wireless? what chipset
[12:19] <rgs80074> i have internet access but i can't access the other pc's on the network
[12:19] <hanzahar> hey
[12:19] <Guillaum3> pestkam: i do not havea 'domain' field enetered
[12:19] <zubu> bazhang: but my frend had this beta cd. soo i thought i would try hardy again!!
[12:19] <rgs80074> in the tools it says some error when i try to configure my network card
[12:19] <Amanda18> how much HD space does ubuntu take once installed ?
[12:19] <mgolisch> Guillaum3,pestkam : the problem is samba does name resolution using netbios, one of the samba/windows hosts is the master browser, it holds a list of all smb servers their name and ips the name entered in naitulus is resolved using the masterbrowser pc or using boradcast request, but ping uses dns so it will only work if the hosts are added to the local hosts file or a localdns server is setup
[12:19] <hanzahar> hi everyone how is everything
[12:19] <bazhang> rgs80074, the other pc's are windows or linux
[12:20] <rgs80074> i am using the new version of ubuntu that i just donwloaded and is allowing me to dual boot
[12:20] <dougsko> Guillaum3: try just mounting the share with mount: mount //host/share /mountpoint -o username=<user>,password=<pass>
[12:20] <rgs80074> for now they are all windows pc's
[12:20] <bazhang> zubu, well going that route you will a ton of updates
[12:20] <rgs80074> fi this goes well though i might change them too
[12:20] <Guillaum3> mgolisch: thanks for your input
[12:20] <bazhang> rgs80074, you should consider samba then
[12:20] <hwdyki> how do i auto reconfigure the x serve?
[12:20] <rgs80074> samba?  forgive me as i am new to linux
[12:21] <dougsko> Guillaum3: you know you need an account on the windows machine with the same username/pass as the unix box, right?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:21] <bazhang> rgs80074, let me get you a link
[12:21] <rgs80074> tried fedora  a while back but ran into all sorts of problems, witht he video card, networking, etc
[12:21] <_vampiro_> Olà A Tutti i Presenti Di  #ubuntu
[12:21] <bazhang> !samba | rgs80074
[12:21] <zubu> bazhang: how about downgrading to GUsty! and then download the updates slowly.
[12:21] <bazhang> !it | _vampiro_
[12:21] <Guillaum3> dougsko: the windows shares are not password protected
[12:21] <rgs80074> this went just fine except for the networking
[12:21] <gnomefreak> _vampiro_: maybe #ubuntu-it would be a better place
[12:21] <cgentry72> no sound in alien arena or open arena can someone help
[12:21] <zubu> bazhang: how much better is hardy anywez!
[12:21] <dougsko> Guillaum3: im not sure if that matters
[12:21] <Air_F> Hi :-)
[12:21] <bazhang> zubu you want to install gutsy and then update to hardy that way? that is a possibility too
[12:22] <dougsko> Guillaum3: its something to keep in mind if nothing else works
[12:22] <Guillaum3> dougsko: thanks
[12:22] <bazhang> zubu, did you have troubles with graphics in gutsy?
[12:22] <Guillaum3> i had a file i edited once. i switched the words "DNS" and something else around
[12:22] <Air_F> is there any way i can find a good book for ubuntu? or any documentations? thanks
[12:22] <hwdyki> gnomefreak: that doesn't detect my vid card drivers
[12:22] <rgs80074> thanks, i'll have to write/save this and reboot to ubuntu later
[12:22] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: you asked how to reconfigure it and yes it does
[12:23] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: now lets try with what are you trying to do
[12:23] <McNult1> is http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/ down?
[12:23] <frojnd> please someone. My kernel modul for sound is loaded. How do I know? Ive tryed lsmod | grep snd_intel8x0 and the output is http://pastebin.ca/1022640 i've installed alsa-base and alsa-oss but I still can't hear any sound from headphones. (headphones are working - double cheked) Any ideas why I can't get any sound ?
[12:23] <rgs80074> also i used the version that starst the installation inside of windows, is there a way to increase the default size of the installation folder? i stuck with the default of 15gigs
[12:23] <pentagon> McNult1: packages.ubuntu.com is down right now
[12:23] <hwdyki> setup drivers for my card.
[12:23] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: hardy?
[12:23] <hwdyki> yes
[12:23] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: what card?
[12:23] <bazhang> rgs80074, ah wubi; then that is a different story
[12:23] <McNult1> damn - oh well
[12:23] <hwdyki> GeForce FX 5200
[12:23] <cgentry72> no sound in alien arena or open arena can someone help
[12:24] <zubu> bazhang: no none at all. in the beginning it just downlaoded the graphic driver on its own and then evrything was fine.it even used to show the nvidia wallpaper before the login screen.!!
[12:24] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: go to system > administration > hardware drivers
[12:24] <bazhang> zubu, then you may want to stick with gutsy if that worked best for you; I have seen the troubles you have had with hardy the last two days
[12:25] <hwdyki> gnomefreak: i don't have a gui.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: that is easiest way, other wise you install nvidia-glx-new and change the drivers by editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file by hand
[12:25] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: you can use safe mode
[12:25] <bazhang> samba with wubi? is that possible?
[12:25] <Air_F> hmmz, any one? ;)
[12:25] <Dr_willis> bazhang,  i dont see why not.
[12:26] <bazhang> thanks Dr_willis  :)
[12:26] <Guillaum3> mgolisch: how do i check if a localdns server is up, can i specify him myself?
[12:26] <rgs80074> wubi?  whats that?
[12:26] <Dr_willis> bazhang,  once wubi boots the linux system. its using all the other hardware - its just running from some sort of filesystem in a file. I thought
[12:26] <zubu> bazhang: yeah thanks a lot for being there.i had been a  bit sluggish in the beginning.copyin entire lines of code and all that....
[12:26] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: hardy should throw you in a crappy GUI if your card isnt configured since everyone should get a GUI after install. if you edit the file by hand remember to make a backup before changing anything
[12:26] <Dr_willis> !wubi
[12:26] <mgolisch> Guillaum3: that depends or your network
[12:26] <zubu> bazhang: so how can i downgrade!!
[12:26] <Guillaum3> mgolisch: what if the router is the localdns?
[12:26] <bazhang> zubu, why not stick with gutsy for now
[12:27] <Guillaum3> mgolisch: then dhcp should handle all of that
[12:27] <bazhang> zubu you need to get gutsy install disk and reinstall
[12:27] <pentagon> Air_F: https://help.ubuntu.com/ has some good general documentation. I don't learn well from books, so I don't know of any good ones.
[12:27] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: if you isntall the drivers i said you should than beable to use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and change the driver to nvidia and you should than have gui\
[12:27] <shellclear> how to cups remote ???
[12:27] <zubu> bazhang yeah i have that! thans to shipit
[12:27] <DellGuy> anyone have trouble with gnome and microphones ?
[12:27] <Air_F> pentagon: thanks. lemme have a look.
[12:27] <bazhang> zubu, and if you have any issues you can come here and ask :)
[12:28] <zubu> bazhang: thanks a lot! you guys a very helpful!
[12:28] <hwdyki> i have the nvidia drivers.
[12:28] <bazhang> zubu :)
[12:29] <nadrosima> ***dont forget if u have amd proccessor (64bit) ur driver cant read kernel name and versiyon 1st open kernel name later install driver
[12:29] <gnomefreak> Air_F: wiki.ubuntu.com is good community docs. The Official Ubuntu Book is a good book
[12:29] <bazhang> Air_F, ubuntuguide.org is good; as far as books (ie paperback) there is one or two really good ones
[12:29] <dougsko> gnomefreak: is the official book Free?
[12:29] <Le^stat> i prefer linux cbt's
[12:29] <DellGuy> can anyone tell me if switching to a KDE desktop is going to mess up my compiz and other settings ?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> hwdyki: than you nee dto set it up in xorg.conf file either with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or by hand
[12:29] <gnomefreak> dougsko: no
[12:29] <zubu> bahang: so how can i downgrade to gusty! reboot> insert the cd.?
[12:30] <bazhang> zubu right
[12:30] <phimic> hello all someone in who uses virtual box 1.6. in ubuntu?
[12:30] <frojnd> All i'm asking here is a little tip... so I could know what else to try and test why I can't get any sound. please
[12:30] <gnomefreak> zubu: you need to reinstall for gutsy as downgrading will cause many issues
[12:30] <Air_F> bazhang: :) good site too
[12:30] <bazhang> phimic, what is the issue
[12:30] <gnomefreak> s/will/can
[12:30] <bazhang> Air_F, :)
[12:30] <dougsko> gnomefreak: thats too bad...ubuntu needs a handbook as complete and available as freebsd's
[12:30] <nadrosima> zubu use adept manager and go full upgrade
[12:30] <Le^stat> vmware server is better thank virtual box
[12:30] <Le^stat> in my opinion
[12:30] <rgs80074> thansks for the help everyone
[12:30] <phimic> bazhang: i cannot compile it with fakeroot debian/rules binary
[12:30] <db92> hi i just downloaded 8.04 and when i was trying to install, the partitioner gave me an error that it cant resize my partition or something like that, any ideas? i was trying to split the partition to keep few gigs as swap and the rest as /
[12:31] <rgs80074> in a bit i'll reboot to linux adn see if i can get it to work
[12:31] <phimic> i get the error http://pastebin.com/mb569266
[12:31] <bazhang> phimic, what are you trying to compile
[12:31] <zhengjia> I am a chinese student ,I am English is poor. I need a fraind to help me study English ,and I can use chinese talk whit him.
[12:31] <rgs80074> i just foudn ti odd that i had internet access just not access to the toher pc's on the network, my issue with fedora a while ago was with no access period
[12:31] <Air_F> thanks for the help :). see you soon guys.
[12:32] <gnomefreak> phimic: you should really be asking that in a differnet channel but it looks like you are missing depends
[12:32] <bazhang> zhengjia, there may be sites for that but this is ubuntu OS support
[12:32] <phimic> bazhang: virtual box 1.6
[12:32] <nadrosima> phimic why use fakeeroot ?
[12:32] <dougsko> zhengjia: come over to #ubuntu-offtopic and chat with us
[12:32] <phimic> gnomefreak: i already asked in #vbox
[12:32] <gnomefreak> phimic: we dont really support building of apps in this channel due to the amount of users in here
[12:32] <bazhang> phimic, why that version? you can get in repos or the package from their site
[12:32] <gnomefreak> phimic: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:32] <faileas> phimic: what're you having issues with, specifically?
[12:32] <immesys> hey, I'm trying to make a share in samba that people can write to but cannot delete files. I don't know where to begin... any idea?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> faileas: hes missing a dep ion building an app
[12:33] <gnomefreak> most likely its libstdc++6 or 5 -dev package
[12:33] <gnomefreak> depending on what the app needs
[12:33] <nadrosima> immesys this file not your u cant delete first take this file
[12:34] <rgs80074> since i am here
[12:34] <immesys> nadrosima: sorry?
[12:34] <rgs80074> anyone know where i can find good sidebar gadgets for ubuntu
[12:34] <nadrosima> chmod change owner!
[12:34] <rgs80074> or widgets, screenlets or whatever they are called
[12:34] <dougsko> phimic: install either libstdc++-dev or libstdc++6-dev and you should be good. whenever you get an error like that, you usually need the "dev" package of what it errored out on to make it work
[12:34] <immesys> nadrosima: but if the files are created by samba guest, then all clients are the same owner...
[12:35] <immesys> nadrosima: aah, you mean make samba change it to a different owner on write?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> it needs a 5 or 6 there isnt one with just ++
[12:35] <phimic> dougsko: thank i will try
[12:35] <nadrosima> are u not guest this is guest file so user file only a security
[12:35] <Dr_willis> rgs80074,  'desklets' 'gdesklets'  'opera has some also'  - and proberly a dozen other ways to get differnt widgets.
[12:35] <zhengjia> what is come over ?
[12:35] <dougsko> gnomefreak: yeah i guess thats dummy pkg
[12:36] <sam_> Hey guys, am I allowed to ask for help here? :P
[12:36] <gnomefreak> dougsko: it is
[12:36] <immesys> nadrosima: I'll try that, thanks
[12:36] <Pici> sam_: So long as its Ubuntu related, sure.
[12:36] <pentagon> zhengjia: "come over" means "visit" or "go to"