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[03:02] <tsimonq2> !ops
[03:03] <tsimonq2> Where's ubottu?!?


[01:17] <james-ubc> hey guys, is it possible to reduce the delay value for "disable touchpad while typing" in xubuntu? I'm not running on a synaptics touchpad
[03:18] <lklkjl> Mint rulez
[03:18] <lklkjl> =]
[03:24] <holstein> !mint
[05:59] <jazzyb> hi guys, anyone alive?
[06:01] <jazzyb> =_=
[11:36] <Eradicator68> Can someone get me out of a mess. I changed some network interfaces and now I can't get the machione to boot
[11:36] <Eradicator68> sticks at waiting for network connections
[11:37] <Eradicator68> hello?
[11:37] <Eradicator68> ?
[13:48] <doebi> why are there two bluetooth icons in xubuntu 13.04?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> doebi, ... I've only one.
[13:51] <doebi> i have two
[13:51] <genii-around> Perhaps you have two devices
[13:52] <cfhowlett> doebi, agree with genii ...
[13:56] <doebi> nope
[13:57] <cfhowlett> doebi, screenshots so we can see
[14:08] <doebi> cfhowlett: http://files.doebi.at/2blue.png
[14:11] <c2tarun> I installed Xubuntu 12.04.1 (I didn't had 12.04.2 at that time). Do I need to upgrade to 12.04.2 or just updating system will be fine?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> c2tarun, just update.
[14:12] <genii-around> c2tarun: Updating will bring it to the next version ( dist-upgrade )
[14:13] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[14:13] <genii-around> Pici: Well, it won't go 12.04-12.10 for sure :)
[14:14] <Pici> genii-around: right, just pointing it out. Your message confused me.
[14:14] <xubuntu525> anyone uses drop and share plug in of cairo dock?knows how i can see the real progress of a upload?
[14:14] <xubuntu525> or cancel it as uploading?
[14:16] <genii-around> doebi: Fellow posting at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1987642 seems to have same issue, apparently caused by install of "blueman"
[14:18] <doebi> genii-around: i saw this post. but removing blueman removes the "correct" icon rather than the buggy one
[14:21] <xubuntu525> hello! is there a them to make pidgin like it was msn essentials because got shut down by MS?
[14:22] <xubuntu525> ops wrong chanel
[14:24] <genii-around> doebi: Did you have another desktop before you installed xubuntu?
[14:25] <genii-around> Ah, looks like bug 1177595 actually
[14:30] <c2tarun> genii-around, my current kernel version is 3.2.04 I guess latest is 3.10 is it worth upgrading to latest one?
[14:31] <c2tarun> genii-around, I face overheating problem only when playing video on youtube using chrome
[14:31] <bekks> c2tarun: Thats has to be done manually then.
[14:31] <genii-around> !info linux-image-generic
[14:32] <genii-around> c2tarun: So you're on some previous version like 12.04 or such?
[14:32] <c2tarun> genii-around, 12.04.1
[14:32] <doebi> genii-around: is there a fix for bug 1177595?
[14:33] <genii-around> doebi: From the bug report page: "I was able to remove that additional bluetooth icon was by disabling or deselecting (Bluetooth Manager applet) from the Application Autostart, (Blueman Bluetooth Manager - should be left selected)"
[14:34] <genii-around> c2tarun: Probably safer to just use the latest packaged kernel from the repos for it.
[14:35] <c2tarun> genii-around, okay, but I did dist-upgrade but its still not to 3.8 do I have to enable backports? or some other repo?
[14:35] <genii-around> !info linux-image-generic precise
[14:36] <genii-around> c2tarun: <IP_ADDRESS>.53 is the latest packaged kernel for your 12.04. If you want anything later then you have to either up your Xubuntu version or if you're feeling brave, see the !mainline factoid
[14:37] <c2tarun> genii-around, hmm... I think I'll not be hero, installing XP due to IPhone sync already gave me nightmares :(
[14:37] <c2tarun> can anyone please answer my this question? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149026
[14:38] <holstein> c2tarun: i would try it in chromium and as another user.. whats the issue exactly?
[14:39] <holstein> c2tarun: keep in mind, its really up to the maintainers of chrome to "fix" things for you.. i say that as a chrome user as well
[14:40] <holstein> one of the first things i did was stop using bookmarks so heavily, since the management was a bit uncomfortable for me
[14:40] <c2tarun> holstein, the issue is that if you click on a bookmark folder , there is kind of a lock, now if you move to any other bookmark folder, it should open automatically, but I have to click to open second folder
[14:41] <c2tarun> holstein, to understand the problem, open thunar, click to open File menu and then move your pointer to Edit, your edit menu will open automatically
[14:41] <holstein> c2tarun: i dont think thats a "should" scenario... i think thats something that you might prefer.. you should ask the chrome developers to implement that feature
[14:42] <xubuntu525> anyone using drop and share of cairo dock?
[14:42] <c2tarun> holstein, actually in office I use chrome on Win 7 this feature is there. As far as I remember, this feature was in chrome as well, don't know why it happened.
[14:44] <holstein> c2tarun: have you tried in chromium? and as another user?
[14:44] <c2tarun> holstein, I don't have chromium, let me try as another user.
[14:44] <holstein> c2tarun: chromium can be installed from the default repos.. im suggesting it as a troubleshooting step, not an alternative browser
[14:46] <c2tarun> holstein, I think diff user also didn't help, let me try installing chromium
[14:47] <c2tarun> woww... chromium will take 118 MBs after install, thats pretty big for a browser I guess
[14:47] <holstein> c2tarun: dont install it then
[14:47] <c2tarun> holstein, its installing :)
[14:47] <holstein> c2tarun: the bookmarks open automatically for me in chrome.. on hovering
[14:47] <c2tarun> I was just sharing my views
[14:50] <holstein> c2tarun: Version 26.0.1410.63 is the version of chrome i am using.. when i click "about" in the menu.. also, in that same menu area is "report an issue".. thats really where you would need to report issues specific to chrome.. i am on ubuntu 12.04
[14:51] <holstein> c2tarun: chrome://feedback/?session_id=1&tab_index=3&description=&categoryTag=
[14:51] <c2tarun> holstein, thanks for confirming :)
[14:52] <holstein> c2tarun: confirming?
[14:53] <c2tarun> holstein, did I misunderstand what you said.
[14:53] <c2tarun> I thought that you meant that this is an issue
[14:53] <holstein> c2tarun: not for me.. for me, i hover, and the bookmark folders expand
[14:54] <c2tarun> holstein, in chrome as well?
[14:54] <holstein> c2tarun: i have *only* tested this in chrome
[14:54] <c2tarun> hmm... okay
[14:54] <holstein> c2tarun: i use chrome regularly.. it is my main browser.. it is *not* in the default repos, as you know
[14:55] <c2tarun> holstein, one more thing, do you feel any heating issue when streaming videos on chrome?
[14:57] <holstein> c2tarun: for me, computers get hotter when utilizing extra components.. on *all* OS's
[14:57] <c2tarun> ok
[14:57] <holstein> c2tarun: when any machine i have starts utilizing the graphics chip, or CPU harder, it gets warmer, and either gets hotter or louder, due to the fans
[14:58] <holstein> if its specific to chrome, it could be one of several things.. keep in mind, chrome has its own flash.. so, it could be the newer version of flash.. could be the itegration of the browser into the OS
[14:59] <holstein> http://www.youtube.com/html5 is something to try.. to use html5 instead of flash, as a troubleshooting step
[14:59] <c2tarun> holstein, I just tested in chromium and I am facing same problemin chromium as well.
[14:59] <c2tarun> holstein, any ideas how to fix it?
[15:01] <holstein> c2tarun: well, what im proposing is, nothing is broken.. what would i do? just click in the menu item to expand it.. what did i personally do? i dont use chome to manage bookmarks
[15:01] <holstein> c2tarun: you can troubleshoot as a different user... you *can* start a bug report about chromium and chrome... i would try and get someone else to confirm the "problem"
[15:02] <holstein> when i test, it opens right up... are you on the same version as i am?
[15:02] <c2tarun> holstein, ok, I'll report a problem in chrome first then after few days in chromium if it persists
[15:02] <c2tarun> holstein, nope my chrome version is something like 27.something
[15:02] <holstein> c2tarun: share here your *exact* version..
[15:03] <holstein> c2tarun: and in the bug report.. specifics are important
[15:03] <c2tarun> holstein, Chrome Version 27.0.1453.93
[15:03] <c2tarun> chromium Version 25.0.1364.160 Ubuntu 12.04 (25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>)
[15:05] <holstein> c2tarun: if you can wait, i will upgrade to your version and test chrome
[15:05] <c2tarun> holstein, yeah sure
[15:15] <holstein> c2tarun: Version 27.0.1453.93 on ubuntu 12.04 32bit.. i go to my bookmarks toolbar, i hover on folders and they open on hover, automatically (at least after a little lag)
[15:15] <c2tarun> let me try the lag thing
[15:15] <holstein> not 3 seconds.. its just not immediate either
[15:16] <c2tarun> nope not opening, even I have to click two times, first time to close the menu, second time to open new folders menu :(
[15:16] <holstein> but, if you have a lot of bookmarks, i could see it taking longer..
[15:16] <holstein> c2tarun: what would i do? backup the bookmarks, and move them out of the way.. or test as a different user on a simpler setup.. create a simple test case
[15:17] <holstein> actually, what i would personally do is just click on the folder and not worry about it...
[15:17] <c2tarun> holstein, yeah I think I'll click again :)
[15:17] <c2tarun> god know, this may solve my bookmarks addiction.
[17:23] <AymanB> Hey guys
[17:23] <AymanB> Need a little help please
[17:23] <TheSheep> !ask
[17:24] <xubuntu816> Good evening!
[17:24] <AymanB> thanks
[17:30] <xubuntu816> I want help for setting my grafic card....
[17:33] <xubuntu816> how can I riposition my screen?
[17:34] <xubuntu816> In XUBUNTU there isn't xividtune
[17:36] <genii-around> xubuntu816: Not by default. but if you want it, install the x11-xserver-utils package.
[17:38] <xubuntu816> Ok. I'm new user linux. How can i install that?
[17:54] <ObrienDave> xubuntu816, how new? have you used the terminal before?
[17:58] <genii-around> The desktop agnostic way from the terminal is like: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install x11-server-utils
[18:18] <xubuntu414> Moin Leute! Ich ersetze Gerade kubuntu 12.10 auf xubuntu 13.04 und n un bleibt er beim Punkt "Restoring previosly installed packages" seit ner halben stunde hängen. Zumindestens geht nichts sichtbar voran. Wie kann ich denn übrprüfen ob er noch was tut (das aufgeklappte Terminal sacht ?May 30 17:31:05 xubuntu ubiquity: WARNING:root:can't add im-switch (pkg im-switch not marked upgrade))
[18:18] <xubuntu414> Ersetyen mithilfe des Images
[18:18] <xubuntu414> als DVD im laufwerk, versteht sich <(
[18:18] <Unit193> !de | xubuntu414
[18:19] <xubuntu414>  oh sorry!
[18:28] <kuzorra> Hi there & Guten Abend !
[18:29] <kuzorra> Can anybody help me with an old ATI laptop GPU?
[18:30] <holstein> !ati
[18:30] <holstein> i wouldnt be worried about running a vesa driver, if its old
[18:30] <kuzorra> Mobility X700 is not really supported, resume from standby won't work
[18:30] <holstein> occasionally, i just dont standby old hardware.. i just disable it
[18:31] <kuzorra> @Holstein: you mean no ATI ?! ;-)
[18:31] <holstein> maybe trying older versions of ubuntu/linux
[18:31] <holstein> kuzorra: not sure what you are asking, but i mean, no standby.. if its problematic.. or using the vesa driver with that hardware
[18:31] <kuzorra> I just upgraded my old laptop to 12.04 LTS, because 11.04 didn't work either
[18:32] <kuzorra> would vesa work with that card and support standby?
[18:32] <holstein> kuzorra: i dont have that hardware in front of me, but its worth a try, assuming standby is a must..
[18:32] <kuzorra> Disabling standby would be an option, but not a solution to my problem
[18:33] <holstein> kuzorra: sure.. just keep in mind its a hardware specific problem that is going to require troubleshooting and likely compromise on your part
[18:33] <kuzorra> sometimes I want to suspend to RAM - for example when leaving a train - and continue there shortly after that
[18:34] <holstein> sure.. and that might not be an option for you with the current software that is available kuzorra
[18:34] <holstein> could be the older drivers are not compatible with the newer kernels..
[18:34] <kuzorra> okay, at the moment I simply don't use standby, but it would be nice to use a standard feature like that
[18:34] <holstein> what would i do? make a custom xorg.conf specifying the vesa driver.. try other live CD's and see if anything sleeps and wakes "as-is" out of the box
[18:34] <kuzorra> you're right, old drivers don't work
[18:36] <kuzorra> Will do, but at the moment I'm stuck with a slow connection, so trying different distros is no option
[18:36] <holstein> kuzorra: consider using whatever operating system the hardware ships with and supports
[18:36] <kuzorra> I got several images at home, but here I just have the 12.04 alternate with me
[18:36] <kuzorra> Hahaha, that would be Windows XP
[18:36] <holstein> these days, hardware is so reasonably prices, i would just pick up an intel netbook that will meet all your needs out of the box
[18:37] <holstein> kuzorra: XP will sleep and wake up
[18:37] <kuzorra> I got one, too, but not with me.......
[18:37] <kuzorra> ......and I like the screen of my old notebook
[18:37] <holstein> if that is a deal breaking feature for that hardware.. otherwise, there is nothing ubuntu/xubunt is doing to prevent you or ati from providing support for that hardware.. but its likely just too old to have a community for it
[18:38] <kuzorra> Xp works fine, but I switched to Win7 (slow!) and I hardly use it, because I don't need to
[18:40] <kuzorra> you're right, no community for it, just old threads in several forums
[18:40] <kuzorra> I hoped to find someone with a nice solution for it
[18:40] <kuzorra> .....but I didn't try VESA yet
[18:41] <holstein> kuzorra: keep in mind, the ones responsible for supplying a "solution" never did supply one for linux for your hardare.. and dont supply any solutions for any modern OS.. that the vendor of the hardware
[18:41] <holstein> kuzorra: the opensource community would need a reason to maintain it. otherwise, it can slip out of support
[18:43] <kuzorra> I perfectly understand that, it just cameto my mind that IRC might help (because google couldn't)
[18:45] <kuzorra> I don't have a Xorg.conf, should I create one and make VESA the default driver, or what would be the right way to do this
[18:45] <kuzorra> ?
[18:46] <holstein> kuzorra: what do i do? i usually et a knoppix live CD.. if get the graphics set up the way i want.. then i copy that over and use it with ubuntu, changing what needs to be changed
[18:47] <holstein> you can search around, or create one from scratch, or whatever works best for you
[18:49] <kuzorra> hmmm, will check that out
[18:50] <holstein> kuzorra: i would just do it real quick.. it shouldnt take long (like 4 or 5 minutes) to come up with an xorg.conf and put it in place and test... as long as you know how to remove it using a live CD, you wont break anything permenantly
[18:50] <holstein> also, you can try nomodeset from the live CD, and test sleep
[18:50] <holstein> !nomodeset
[18:53] <kuzorra> thanks, I'll read it.....
[18:53] <kuzorra> .....I stumbled across "nomodeset", but I read that for others it did not work
[18:54] <kuzorra> The video boots fine and works well (considering its age), but resume sucks
[18:55] <holstein> kuzorra: sure.. but just grab the live CD and boot with it.. then you'll know for certain if it works for you.. on your sepcific hardware case. unless you read someone using the *exact* hardware, and ubuntu/linux version, you really cant say without trying first hand.. and it takes as long as it takes to boot a live CD to confirm
[18:55] <holstein> kuzorra: try going to tty after resume fails..
[18:56] <holstein> !tty
[18:58] <kuzorra> thanks, I know virtual consoles
[18:59] <kuzorra> holstein, what do you mean wit !nomodeset and !tty
[19:00] <Pici> kuzorra: They're triggers for our channel bot, ubottu, see the information that it has posted.
[19:00] <holstein> kuzorra: i mean, get the cd you installed ubuntu with.. use it live booting iwth the nomodeset option.. i used !nomodeset to pull up the links on how to do that
[19:00] <kuzorra> I understand ubottu's link regarding nomodeset in a way that I can try this boot parameter on my kernel, too
[19:00] <holstein> kuzorra: !tty explains to you how to go to , and get back from tty.. if you get the machine to fail to resume, you can try TTY
[19:01] <Pici> kuzorra: oops, sorry. Some people don't understand what a bot is, I'm used to dealing with them.
[19:01] <kuzorra> cool sh*t, I didn't know that
[19:01] <holstein> kuzorra: i would just boot the live cd and test. then, you can use the nomodeset option without changing your current setup.. but, do what you need
[19:01] <kuzorra> !nomodeset
[19:02] <kuzorra> this link says 'just try it once by editing your boot parameters without a permanent change
[19:02] <kuzorra> '
[19:03] <kuzorra> this bot is awesome, does this work in all channels or just some?
[19:03] <Wulong> So. Will I be able to fit 840MB xubuntu to an regular CD?
[19:03] <Pici> Ubuntu's channels.
[19:03] <holstein> kuzorra: sure.. follow that, or the live CD.. or whatever method you prefer
[19:03] <Pici> Or via pm./
[19:03] <holstein> Wulong: 840 is larger than all my CDr's..
[19:03] <holstein> !mini | Wulong
[19:03] <Wulong> yep
[19:04] <Wulong> Well, I need the graphical to verify that its working :/
[19:04] <Wulong> I should burn to a DVD then.
[19:04] <kuzorra> okay, I'm off for a reboot, thanks a lot!
[19:04] <holstein> Wulong: a DVD will work.. or USB.. or *any* smaller ubuntu iso and convert to xubuntu
[19:06] <kuzorra> usb is fast and works on most modern PCs
[19:06] <Wulong> Not on Apple
[19:06] <kuzorra> bye
[19:06] <holstein> Wulong: i use plop to boot USB on machines that dont boot USB
[19:06] <Wulong> I tried to update to 12.10 once, but graphical failed so I sticked to 12.04, but its time to try 13.04
[19:07] <holstein> http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html
[19:12] <Wulong> So I can burn plop to CD, boot it, insert USB and load its content (OS) ?
[19:12] <peyam> I still have problem with my sound. while camming on skype I cant here anything from youtube and vlc and when I turn these on skype will crash. any suggestion?
[19:25] <Sysi> apple computers boot straight from usb too, you just need special setup
[19:26] <Sysi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[19:30] <Wulong> Don't have OS X, but it appear that its detected now.
[19:31] <Sysi> peyam: you could ask on #ubuntu
[19:32] <peyam> I use xubuntu
[19:32] <Sysi> ubuntu uses same sound system
[19:33] <peyam> well do you need anything?
[19:33] <peyam> know*
[19:34] <Sysi> nope, couldn't even find anything remotely current with google
[19:36] <holstein> Wulong: i would read the plop page i linked.. i use it like this.. i boot the cd i burned, and i boot the usb sticks i make with unetbootin (for example)
[19:36] <Wulong> holstein: already got it bootin and reading from USB. Just have to figure out boot options. I think nomodeset will do it.
[19:37] <Wulong> peyam: verify that skype is using pulseaudio
[19:37] <holstein> peyam: i would try pavucontrol ..see if that helps you route
[19:38] <peyam> Wulong: it uses systemdefault. I tried to reinstall puleaudio but still no ppulseautio in skype sound devide option
[19:38] <peyam> pavucontroll isn't it the same as pulseaudio
[19:38] <holstein> i would try teh current skyp from the site..
[19:38] <holstein> the*
[19:38] <peyam> yes
[19:39] <peyam> it is
[19:39] <holstein> peyam: pavucontrol controls pulseaudio.. think of it as a mixer for it, specifically
[19:39] <holstein> peyam: i would try installing, and checking the routing there with it
[19:40] <peyam> holstein: what exatclcy do you want me to do ?
[19:40] <peyam> 1) install pavucontrol 2) reinstall skype?
[19:41] <holstein> peyam: i have made the sugestion to be sure you have the current version of skype from the site.. also, you might wnt to just remove it from the equation and test..
[19:41] <holstein> peyam: i would use pavucontrol to test and configure the routing for the applictations in pulse audio
[19:42] <peyam> so first uninstall skype
[19:42] <peyam> and then pavucontrol
[19:42] <holstein> peyam: so.. 1). instal the current version of skype from the site (if you dont have it).. 2. if needed, install pavucontrol (since it is a mixer for pulse audio with more options)
[19:43] <holstein> peyam: we have no control over skype, so personally, i wouldnt break a bunch of the system assuming the issue is with pulse.. assming everything else about the audio is in order
[19:44] <peyam> it worked but since I install the new kernel it happens
[19:44] <holstein> peyam: i would just boot the older kernel then
[19:44] <peyam> I didnt have any problem with 12.10 untill <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:45] <peyam> holstein: I dont wana get in trubble. I do lot os matlab programming.. I dont know if it will effect it
[19:45] <holstein> peyam: im not suggesting you change *anything* about your system.. you literally boot the last kernel that works for you
[19:46] <holstein> upgrade as normal, and check in each update, and see if support for your hardare/software is back in place for you.. file a bug and keep watch on the progress
[19:46] <peyam> holstein: will it effect other things?
[19:46] <holstein> peyam: sure.. it will make your system work properly
[19:47] <holstein> peyam: what else will it do? i have *no* idea, but you are a reboot away from being right back where you are now
[19:47] <holstein> dont remove the current kernel.. or break anything.. just boot the older kernel
[19:47] <peyam> okej.. very good. I will do the installation of pavucontrol
[19:47] <peyam> and skype
[19:49] <peyam> holstein: When I search for pavucontrol i get the pulseaudio
[19:52] <bazhang> !info pavucontrol
[19:52] <bazhang> peyam, ^
[19:52] <peyam> why do I get pulseaudio then
[19:53] <peyam> I installed skype from the software-center this time
[19:53] <peyam> and now the sound options are right
[19:53] <peyam> Im gonna try it now
[19:57] <peyam> it works
[20:01] <Wulong> And so does 13.04 on MBP 5,3. How neat.
[20:30] <phunyguy> hello, fresh install of Xubuntu 13.04, and I seem to have lost my battery icon.  The xfce4-power-manager process is running, but I cannot connect to it via xfce4-power-manager-settings, unless I kill the xfce4-power-manager process and restart it from command line with the --no-daemon option
[20:30] <phunyguy> if I run it as a daemon from command line, the error is reproduced
[20:31] <phunyguy> ...also I have two bluetooth icones... one smaller and white, the other larger and black.
[20:31] <phunyguy> icons*
[20:32] <Sysi> if the error is more than 3 lines, please use paste.ubuntu.com, if shorter, please post it here
[20:33] <phunyguy> I cannot produce an actual error.
[20:33] <ObrienDave> phunyguy, open settings, power manager. make sure 'system tray icon' is set to 'always show icon'
[20:34] <phunyguy> ObrienDave: I cannot open the power manager settings, as stated in my first line.  :)
[20:34] <Sysi> phunyguy: have you installed updates?
[20:34] <phunyguy> If I run it from command line, I get no error on screen, process is running, but no icon, and no connection to the daemon via settings applet.  If I run with --no-daemon, it functions as advertised.
[20:34] <phunyguy> Sysi:  yes.
[20:35] <ObrienDave> phunyguy, have you tried from the settings menu?
[20:35] <phunyguy> Have I tried what, exactly, from the settings menu?
[20:35] <Sysi> could you put ~/.xsession-errors to pastebin?
[20:37] <phunyguy> Sysi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5717980/
[20:38] <ObrienDave> settings menu, power manager
[20:38] <phunyguy> ObrienDave: for the third time, I get an error that it cannot connect to xfce4-power-manager.
[20:39] <Sysi> this may sound dull, but have you rebooted?
[20:39] <phunyguy> Sysi: yes, unfortunately...  :(
[20:39] <phunyguy> I wish it was that easy.
[20:39] <phunyguy> it works great as a non-daemon...
[20:40] <Sysi> xfce4-power-manager seems to have --debug option, try that
[20:41] <ObrienDave> go to sessions and startup. under application autostart, see if power manager is checked
[20:42] <Sysi> ObrienDave: he can't even start it manually
[20:42] <ObrienDave> *shrugs and walks away*
[20:43] <Sysi> he's dead jim :p
[20:43] <phunyguy> hahaaha
[20:43] <phunyguy> sorry had to step away for a second
[20:44] <phunyguy> :-/ with --debug, that seems to --non-daemon it as well
[20:44] <phunyguy> ...so it works.
[20:44] <phunyguy> thus no error :(
[20:50] <Sysi> I have a problem with virtualbox, 13.04 guest doesn't set any driver to ac97 device it sees even if I have installed guest additions
[20:51] <Sysi> so I have no sound
[20:54] <phunyguy> so the plot thickens
[20:54] <phunyguy> I unchecked the autorun box in startup apps
[20:55] <phunyguy> ran it manually after a reboot.....  it works.
[20:56] <Sysi> rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and set it back to autostart
[20:57]  * phunyguy crosses fingers
[20:58] <Sysi> whoo, switching from linux-virtual to linux-image-generic fixed the sound
[20:58] <phunyguy> but I have a guess as to what that did... removed a saved session...?
[20:58] <Sysi> yeah, possibly corrupted one
[20:58] <phunyguy> oh looky here... a battery icon!
[20:58] <phunyguy> thank you sir
[20:59] <phunyguy> ...or ma'am?
[20:59] <Sysi> you're welcome (sir)
[21:02] <phunyguy> well then, you, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
[21:05] <xubuntu440> hello, I have a proglem
[21:05] <xubuntu440> b*
[21:05] <xubuntu440> images and videos are in green et violet
[21:07] <Sysi> all of them or just some on the web?
[21:07] <xubuntu440> what happens and what are solutions ?
[21:08] <xubuntu440> all
[21:08] <xubuntu440> :(
[21:09] <Sysi> all in web or local videos too?
[21:09] <xubuntu440> 2 sec, all in web but locals...
[21:10] <Sysi> well anyway, right click on some video, go to settings and disable hardware acceleration
[21:10] <xubuntu440> ok, thanks
[21:12] <xubuntu440> done, it is always in green lines
[21:18] <xubuntu440> hello, I have videos and images in green lines
[21:19] <knome> !patience | xubuntu440
[21:40] <xubuntu025> hello, I have .swf videos in green and violet
[21:46] <Unit193> Person that left too soon: Kind of squished too?
[21:47] <knome> weird that he had the same ip as the previous guest.
[21:48] <Unit193> Same question.
[22:07] <JohannKrauss> hello
[22:07] <JohannKrauss> can anyone tell me why I can't run wine after installing libreoffice?
[23:23] <phunyguy> Sysi: so I lost my battery icon again.... and again, a rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions + restart fixed it.
[23:23] <phunyguy> I wonder how many times this is going to happen
[23:33] <xubuntu268> I'm trying to install Xubuntu on a laptop with a bum CD drive. I tried to download it to a USB drive, but I got a torrent file that I can't open or do anything with. What's the secret to using torrent?
[23:33] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I don't have a sound applet or controller in tray icon, how to get that?
[23:36] <xubuntu739> errr...Get out of my way.  I have actual questions.  xubuntu268.  Are portable apps a possibility.  There is a portable app called unetbootin that can help you.  format the usb fat 32 (default in windows) c2tarun: is pulse audio installed?  Can you hear the boot sound?  Have you check in panels?
[23:37] <c2tarun> xubuntu739, I checked in panels, and sound was coming till last boot. When I opened this morning I am getting no sound, let me check about pulse audio
[23:38] <xubuntu739> checked the syslog?
[23:38] <xubuntu739> likely something is failing?  Do you have a backup user to just log into to check defaults?
[23:39] <genii-around> xubuntu268: Whatever OS you used to download the torrent file must have some torrent client that was written for it, like BitTorrent or something. This is what you want to use the torrent file with.
[23:40] <xubuntu739> xubuntu268:  Try these: http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/utorrent_portable, http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/unetbootin-portable.  utorrent is terrrible, but it will get you the file and then you can use something better.
[23:44] <genii-around> xubuntu268: This is assuming of course that you're running Windows. If you're running another linux you can install something like transmission or bittorrent, if MacOS  then the Mac version of utorrent.
[23:45] <c2tarun> I looked through application finder and I found this http://imagebin.org/259607  The part I circled was muted. I unmuted it. This is the problem I am facing with kind of all distros. Default setting after reboot is muted sound. Earlier in ubuntu it was in tray icon so I simply unmute it as I reboot once a day. But here in xubuntu I am not able to get sound controller in tray icons.
[23:50] <nixnine> Hey guys I have two problems: 1. I cannot mount any disks, partitions.  2. I am trying to restart thunderbird but it says it is already running.  I checked sys monitor process but it's not listed
[23:51] <nixnine> tried killall but said the process not found.    Tons of people do this crap.
[23:52] <xubuntu739> nixnine: check sudo ps aux | grep th
[23:52] <xubuntu739> nixnine:  have you checked ls -la /dev/disk/by-  whatever.  Are the partitions there?
[23:53] <xubuntu739> by whatever I mean by-label, by-uuid, ect
[23:53] <nixnine> I keep getting read only file system error
[23:54] <nixnine> I have my hd partitioned.  it will read the partition i'm not using but no usb, no dvd/cd
[23:55] <xubuntu739> ah.  Try gparted on the usb.  It scans everything.  Make sure you don't f things up, but I am sure you know how dangerous gparted is.  As far as dvd/cd, I can't help you sorry.
[23:57] <nixnine> when i ls ... by-id it lists everything
[23:58] <nixnine> all partitions, usb, dvd
[23:59] <nixnine> here is an example listing: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 May 28 18:26 ata-TOSHIBA_MK2555GSX_99GITEBJT -> ../../sda
[23:59] <nixnine> does that mean anything to anyone?
[23:59] <xubuntu739> It means that you have a hard drive


[00:19] <RAOF> Oh, wow. That's quite the NBS set.
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[01:39] <RAOF> OpenSSL transition? Neat!”
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[09:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted brlaser [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6-3]
[09:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xdg-desktop-portal [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.14.2-1]
[09:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted five-or-more [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1:3.32.3-1]
[09:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnumeric [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.12.51-1]
[10:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (jammy-proposed/main) [2.761 => 2.762] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[10:38] <juliank> Restarted arm64 workers, for unknown reasons they were not picking up any systemd upstream test requests
[10:54] <juliank> Disabled bos01 workers
[10:55] <juliank> Plan to issue retries for all bos01 failure
[10:56] <juliank> Filtering for 403 or Forbidden would be nice, but meh?
[11:00] <doko> juliank: are these retried now?
[11:00] <juliank> doko: building url list right now
[11:01] <juliank> doko: retrying nopw
[11:03] <juliank> doko: all retries issued
[11:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pydata-sphinx-theme (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.7.2-1 => 0.7.2-2] (i386-whitelist) (sync)
[11:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pydata-sphinx-theme [sync] (jammy-proposed) [0.7.2-2]
[11:05] <juliank> 125 tests overall
[11:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dh-python (jammy-proposed/universe) [5.20220215 => 5.20220403] (i386-whitelist) (sync)
[11:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dh-python [sync] (jammy-proposed) [5.20220403]
[11:06] <juliank> I wonder if retries should be handled differently
[11:06] <juliank> currently we wait 5 mins then try again, 3 times
[11:07] <juliank> maybe we should just move the item to the back of the queue and add a field "retry": 1 (2, 3)
[11:07] <juliank> such that if something is really broken and causing abnormal exits it doesn't waste too much time
[11:10] <juliank>      56 arch=arm64
[11:10] <juliank>      32 arch=ppc64el
[11:10] <juliank>      36 arch=s390x
[11:10] <juliank> in case anyone was wondering how many retries those are
[11:11] <juliank> caching in retry-autopkgtest-regressions is broken fwiw
[11:11] <juliank> it has the old log urls in it
[11:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libreoffice (jammy-proposed/main) [1:7.3.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 => 1:7.3.2-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[11:22] <juliank> sil2100: can you merge the 2 (unrelated) commits in https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/ubuntu-archive-tools/+git/ubuntu-archive-tools/+merge/418359?
[11:22] <juliank> I had the coding style queued, but never pushed as no commit rights :)
[11:22] <sil2100> Looooking
[11:27] <ricotz> hello ubuntu release :), please approve libreoffice/jammy in the queue
[11:28] <juliank> I think I'll change things so that bos01 gets re-enabled, but will only take the huge queue
[11:28] <juliank> but not sure
[11:28] <juliank> but then if stuff fails and you retry it it always ends up on bos02
[11:28] <juliank> we're waiting for IS to fix the proxy to allow internet on bos01 basically
[11:59] <sil2100> ricotz: o/
[12:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.762]
[12:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libreoffice [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:7.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[12:03] <ricotz> sil2100, cheers :)
[12:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: yt (jammy-proposed/universe) [4.0.2-2 => 4.0.2-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted yt [source] (jammy-proposed) [4.0.2-2ubuntu1]
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-3d (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2+dfsg-3 => 6.2.4+dfsg-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-base (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2+dfsg-6ubuntu2 => 6.2.4+dfsg-1ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-connectivity (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-2 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-declarative (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2+dfsg-4ubuntu1 => 6.2.4+dfsg-2ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-5compat (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-5 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-datavis3d (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-2 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-charts (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-2 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-imageformats (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-2 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-lottie (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-2 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-networkauth (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-2 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-quick3d (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-4 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-remoteobjects (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-3 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-sensors (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-3 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-serialport (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-2 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-svg (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-2ubuntu1 => 6.2.4-1ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-translations (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-3 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-multimedia (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-3 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-quicktimeline (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-2 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-serialbus (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-3 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-tools (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-3 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-positioning (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-3 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-shadertools (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-2 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-scxml (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-3 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-shadertools [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-tools [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-webengine (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2+dfsg-6ubuntu2 => 6.2.4+dfsg-1ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-webview (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-3 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-svg [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1ubuntu1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qt6-websockets (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.2.2-3 => 6.2.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-translations [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-multimedia [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-positioning [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-quicktimeline [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-scxml [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-serialbus [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-networkauth [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-remoteobjects [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-serialport [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-quick3d [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-sensors [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-charts [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-datavis3d [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-imageformats [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-connectivity [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-lottie [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-declarative [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4+dfsg-2ubuntu1]
[13:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-3d [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4+dfsg-1]
[13:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-5compat [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-webengine [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4+dfsg-1ubuntu1]
[13:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-webview [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-websockets [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4-1]
[13:12] <RikMills> sil2100: could you accept qt6base? it did not seem to done by the bot unlike the rest of qt6
[13:13] <sil2100> Done o/
[13:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qt6-base [sync] (jammy-proposed) [6.2.4+dfsg-1ubuntu1]
[13:14] <RikMills> thanks!
[13:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-openstackclient (jammy-proposed/main) [5.7.0-0ubuntu1 => 5.8.0-0ubuntu1] (openstack)
[13:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nautilus-share (jammy-proposed/main) [0.7.3-2ubuntu5 => 0.7.3-2ubuntu6] (ubuntu-desktop)
[13:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lm-sensors (jammy-proposed/main) [1:3.6.0-7build2 => 1:3.6.0-7ubuntu1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lm-sensors (impish-proposed/main) [1:3.6.0-7 => 1:3.6.0-7ubuntu0.1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[13:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lm-sensors (focal-proposed/main) [1:3.6.0-2ubuntu1 => 1:3.6.0-2ubuntu1.1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lm-sensors (bionic-proposed/main) [1:3.4.0-4 => 1:3.4.0-4ubuntu0.1] (core)
[14:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-ase (jammy-proposed/universe) [3.22.1-1 => 3.22.1-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[14:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-ase [source] (jammy-proposed) [3.22.1-1ubuntu1]
[15:41] <fossfreedom> Any release folk around? Please can someone poke our (ubuntu budgie) jammy daily. It is failing about opening a STRUCTURE file which I have no idea about how to fix in our seeds
[15:42] <RikMills> fossfreedom: that failure is an infra issue. all flavours are getting that semi-randomly
[15:43] <fossfreedom> Ah. Thx
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ibus (jammy-proposed/main) [1.5.26-2 => 1.5.26-3] (i386-whitelist, input-methods, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-pot (jammy-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1build1 => <IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: srt (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.4.2-1.4ubuntu1 => 1.4.4-4] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu) (sync)
[17:03] <LocutusOfBorg> srt gained a autopkgtests ^^
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-pot [source] (jammy-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1ubuntu1]
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xdg-desktop-portal-gnome (jammy-proposed/main) [42.0.1-1 => 42.0.1-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[18:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: golang-1.16 (bionic-proposed/primary) [1.16.2-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[18:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wpa (jammy-proposed/main) [2:2.10-2 => 2:2.10-6] (core) (sync)
[18:40] <kanashiro> ubuntu-archive: I am proposing the addition of golang-1.16 to Bionic ^ the package is in NEW, it'd be great if anyone could take a look
[18:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mediainfo (jammy-proposed/universe) [21.09-1 => 22.03-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mediainfo [sync] (jammy-proposed) [22.03-1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: phoc (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.13.0-1 => 0.13.1-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted phoc [sync] (jammy-proposed) [0.13.1-2]
[18:47] <seb128> kanashiro, you want ubuntu-sru rather I think
[18:48] <kanashiro> seb128, are SRU team members able to accept packages from NEW?
[18:49] <seb128> kanashiro, I don't think so but they are the ones in charge of making decisions about stable updates, some of them are also archive admin and if they need one to act on something they decided they know who to ping
[18:50] <stgraber> would be great if someone from ~ubuntu-release could comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1967620
[18:51] <kanashiro> seb128, right, I subscribed ubuntu-sru to the bug as well, it should be in their list anyway
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted srt [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.4.4-4]
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xdg-desktop-portal-gnome [source] (jammy-proposed) [42.0.1-1ubuntu1]
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wpa [sync] (jammy-proposed) [2:2.10-6]
[18:54] <tumbleweed> stgraber: approved
[18:55] <stgraber> tumbleweed: thank you very much!
[18:55] <tumbleweed> np
[19:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wine-development (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.19~repack-2 => 6.19~repack-2ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wine-development [source] (jammy-proposed) [6.19~repack-2ubuntu1]
[20:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: php-klogger (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.2.1-4build1 => 1.2.1-4ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[20:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted php-klogger [source] (jammy-proposed) [1.2.1-4ubuntu1]
[20:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-settings (jammy-proposed/main) [22.04.5 => 22.04.6] (ubuntu-desktop)
[20:14] <seb128> any chance to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libarchive/+bug/1967127 reviewed?
[20:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: runc (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.0.1-0ubuntu2~18.04.1 => 1.1.0-0ubuntu1~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[20:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mozjs78 (jammy-proposed/universe) [78.15.0-4 => 78.15.0-4ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[20:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: containerd (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.5.5-0ubuntu3~18.04.2 => 1.5.9-0ubuntu1~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[20:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mozjs78 [source] (jammy-proposed) [78.15.0-4ubuntu1]
[20:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-ovsdbapp (jammy-proposed/main) [1.15.1-0ubuntu1 => 1.15.1-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[21:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: docker.io (bionic-proposed/universe) [20.10.7-0ubuntu5~18.04.3 => 20.10.12-0ubuntu2~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[21:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openssh (impish-proposed/main) [1:8.4p1-6ubuntu2.1 => 1:8.4p1-6ubuntu2.2] (core, i386-whitelist)
[21:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-tweak (jammy-proposed/universe) [22.04.8-0ubuntu1 => 22.04.8-0ubuntu2] (ubuntu-mate)
[21:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-mate-artwork (jammy-proposed/universe) [22.04.12 => 22.04.13] (ubuntu-mate)
[22:00] <fossfreedom> I tried a rebuild of the ubuntu budgie jammy iso. Failed again with the same STRUCTURE issue. Guess we are twice unlucky today. Guess maybe tomorrow.
[22:17] <Wimpy> Please accept mate-tweak 22.04.8-0ubuntu2 and ubuntu-mate-artwork 22.04.13
[23:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (jammy-proposed/main) [2:20.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 2:20.0.0-0ubuntu2] (openstack)


[06:39] <elkbuntu> i'd help out with UWN, but gobby keeps giving me version mismatch errors :|
[06:39] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: welcome to gobby
[06:40] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, it wasnt a complaint, just an fyi
[06:40] <elkbuntu> anything you want me to write up or something?
[06:40] <elkbuntu> since i cant see it to decide for myself :P
[06:40] <Burgundavia> sure, going to be moving it back to the wiki
[06:41] <Burgundavia> moved back
[06:42] <elkbuntu> looks really sparse compared to last weeks :|
[06:42] <Burgundavia> yes, becuase I have not started editing yet
[06:42] <elkbuntu> hehe
[06:43] <elkbuntu> i had a meddle last night..added the meeting times
[06:43] <elkbuntu> couldnt find any news that wasnt old
[06:46] <poningru_> doing hw right now
[06:49] <elkbuntu> oh yuck.. automatix mentioned --> http://www.itweek.co.uk/personal-computer-world/features/2164751/making-ubuntu-easier
[06:50] <Madpilot> obviously they meant to title the article 'making-ubuntu-broken'
[06:51] <poningru_> hehe
[06:51] <elkbuntu> should we include it in UWN with a disclaimer.. it's in several places around the net
[06:51] <elkbuntu> http://www.whatpc.co.uk/personal-computer-world/features/2164751/making-ubuntu-easier <-- here as well
[06:51] <poningru_> what? automatix == teh bad?
[06:52] <elkbuntu> poningru_, yes
[06:53] <elkbuntu> http://novarata.net/comparison.html
[06:55] <poningru> oh I am with you on that
[06:55] <poningru> but its a community driven project
[06:55] <poningru> who are we to deny it?
[06:56] <elkbuntu> because the community spoken 'sorry, your system is <profanity>d' cannot repair the damage
[06:57] <Burgundavia> automatix is badly broken by design
[06:57] <poningru> well yes... like I said I agree with you all on that
[06:58] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, what should we do about the articles? post them with disclaimer?
[06:59] <Madpilot> I'd ignore them.
[07:00] <poningru> hmm I say lets ignore it
[07:00] <elkbuntu> yeah, probably good idea
[07:02] <elkbuntu> http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=MReviews&op=show&rid=19
[07:04] <elkbuntu> ^-- that worth adding?
[07:05] <Madpilot> looks interesting - so does the book they review. Too bad about the tiny font. :|
[07:05] <elkbuntu> gah
[07:08] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:08] <Burgundavia> I would add teh stuff about automatix, with a clear disclaimer
[07:09] <Madpilot> "Automatix is a good way to break Ubuntu that is inexplicably popular. Here are some articles about it:"
[07:10] <Madpilot> perhaps that's too clear, though?
[07:10] <elkbuntu> possibly
[07:10] <elkbuntu> but for some people... nowhere near clear enough
[07:11] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:12] <Madpilot> Apparently the Automatix Project's wiki mentions that #ubuntu doesn't like their little monster
[07:14] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, it's the pet of arnieboy from the forums afaik
[07:14] <Madpilot> apparently he's bowed out, there's an actual team in charge now. I gather from ppl who've looked at the code that it's still as horribly broken as ever, tho
[07:15] <elkbuntu> it's not going to change overnight
[07:19] <poningru> yeah...
[07:20] <elkbuntu> oops forgot linkage
[07:24] <elkbuntu> feel free to totally change what i put there :|
[10:25] <elkbuntu> hmm.. UWN still needs working on.. whats going to be the feature of the week?
[10:25] <Burgundavia> I didn't do one last week
[10:25] <Burgundavia> and yes, it does
[10:25] <elkbuntu> well last week had enough other stuff
[10:46] <Burgundavia> yes
[10:46] <Burgundavia> I really need to get off my butt and finish this thing
[11:13] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, ok, back from dinner, i'll help you
[11:14] <elkbuntu> do you have a list of 'feature of the week' things or something?
[11:18] <Burgundavia> ok
[11:18] <Burgundavia> hmm
[11:19] <elkbuntu> anything new and uber cool gone into repos we could feature?
[11:22] <Burgundavia> some
[11:22] <Burgundavia> you could talk about a few things
[11:23] <elkbuntu> such as?
[11:23] <Burgundavia> ltsp hackfest
[11:23] <Burgundavia> beta freeze
[11:24] <Burgundavia> new documentation for stable release updates
[11:24] <Burgundavia> I will do the last
[11:25] <elkbuntu> yeah, i'd rather that you did
[11:25] <elkbuntu> shold the ltsp go in press or community news?
[11:26] <Burgundavia> community news
[11:26] <Burgundavia> there are serveral press reports you can mention as well
[11:26] <elkbuntu> the linux.com one by jorge is probably a good start
[11:27] <elkbuntu> ok, are you going to run gobby or are we going to play via wiki
[11:27] <Burgundavia> wiki
[11:27] <elkbuntu> k
[11:28] <Burgundavia> I am writing in tomboy, so feel free to edit on the wiki
[11:28] <elkbuntu> cool
[11:30] <Burgundavia> ok, wrote the beta freeze article
[11:31] <elkbuntu> heh, im still trying to figure how to word the ltsp hackfest one
[11:32] <Burgundavia> yep
[11:34] <elkbuntu> LTSP Hackfest
[11:34] <elkbuntu> Members of the LTSP project, and developers for several distributions, gathered in Clarkston, Michigan last weekend to plot the future of LTSP, and Ubuntu was there. Jorge Castro wrote about it for [WWW]  Linux.com.
[11:34] <elkbuntu> thats what i put up, sound ok?
[11:37] <Burgundavia> mention that they are working on merging Ubuntu's LTSP into mainline LTSP
[11:37] <Burgundavia> and that Ubuntu's LTSP is the future
[11:37] <Burgundavia> TM
[11:37] <elkbuntu> lol
[11:42] <elkbuntu> Members of the LTSP project, and developers from several distributions, gathered in Clarkston, Michigan last weekend to plot the future of LTSP. Ubuntu was there to oversee the beginning of work related to merging the Ubuntu LTSP into mainline LTSP.
[11:42] <elkbuntu> that sound better?
[11:42] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[11:42] <Burgundavia> tell me about where I can read stuff, etc.
[11:42] <elkbuntu> yeah, i didnt want to add to the potential beeps to someone
[11:43] <elkbuntu> so that sentance is still there, i just didnt paste it here
[11:45] <elkbuntu> you can add your stuff on the wiki know, im out of edit mode
[11:45] <Burgundavia> ok
[11:47] <Burgundavia> editing
[11:48] <elkbuntu> for infamous bugs, wasnt there one similar nature to the xorg bug unleashed sometime this week?
[11:49] <elkbuntu> or was i imagining this?
[11:49] <Burgundavia> xorg bug?
[11:50] <elkbuntu> it was nvidia or something affected?
[11:50] <Burgundavia> hmm, no idea
[11:50] <Burgundavia> let me look through my UWN queue
[11:50] <elkbuntu> i could well be 'remembering' total crap here, so feel free to say so
[11:50] <Burgundavia> I have a gmail tag called UWN queue
[11:51] <elkbuntu> heh
[11:51] <Burgundavia> I wish I could make it public, so people could see what I think is worth writing about
[11:51] <elkbuntu> it'd be nice, yeah
[11:52] <Burgundavia> I think we would get more feedback that way
[11:52] <elkbuntu> definately. maybe forward to a publicly cached address?
[11:53] <elkbuntu> set up a uwn mailing list to send it to? <-- even better idea
[11:53] <elkbuntu> well, not better, more specific :)
[11:53] <Burgundavia> hmm, interesting idea
[11:54] <elkbuntu> would be worth trying at least
[11:54] <Burgundavia> could you find all the telepathy related packages and write a bit about that?
[11:54] <Burgundavia> or should I?
[11:54] <elkbuntu> if you knwo what it is, probably you
[11:55] <Burgundavia> there are some LTSP changes this week that are probably easier to look at
[11:56] <Burgundavia> did you see the email to edubuntu-devel about the ltsp hackfest?
[11:56] <Burgundavia> see if you missed anything there
[11:56] <Burgundavia> edubuntu-menus is a good one to write about as well
[11:57] <elkbuntu> no, im not on that list
[11:58] <elkbuntu> i'll check mailman in a sec
[12:06] <Burgundavia> you editing?
[12:06] <elkbuntu> nope
[12:07] <Burgundavia> ok, more dumping in
[12:07] <Burgundavia> I am pretty close to having to shut down
[12:08] <elkbuntu> exhausted?
[12:08] <Burgundavia> no, leaving to catch a plane
[12:08] <elkbuntu> oh
[12:09] <Burgundavia> we are looking not bad, but I am not going to release until this evening
[12:09] <Burgundavia> something else you could takl about is the addition of system-config-printer to the ubuntu repos
[12:10] <Burgundavia> talk about that fits in with the umbrella project
[12:10] <Burgundavia> the gstreamer updates are also quite interesting
[12:11] <elkbuntu> that the "legal mp3" thingie?
[12:12] <Burgundavia> no, just updates to the various bits of gstreamer
[12:20] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: can you add something to the UWN about your surveys? (is it already there?)
[12:21] <elkbuntu> it went there last week
[12:21] <MenZa> Live 'uns!"
[12:21] <elkbuntu> unless you mean an update about them?
[12:22] <Burgundavia> were the websurveys in last week?
[12:23] <elkbuntu> yep
[12:23] <elkbuntu> i launched them a week and 16 hours ago
[12:23] <elkbuntu> at 4am my time, lol
[12:23] <Klaidas> hi menza ;)
[12:24] <Burgundavia> ok, I have to make certain I have everything before I go
[12:25] <Burgundavia> please keep working
[12:25] <MenZa> hi Klaidas :)
[12:25] <elkbuntu> sure
[12:26] <MenZa> elkbuntu: your survey is dodgy.
[12:26] <elkbuntu> MenZa, how so?
[12:26] <MenZa> elkbuntu: "Windows (Pre XP)", "WindowsXP"
[12:26] <MenZa> Vista is not Pre XP.
[12:26] <MenZa> Nor is it XP
[12:26] <MenZa> :)
[12:27] <elkbuntu> then that goes to 'other
[12:27] <elkbuntu> and blame kampingkaiser for that question configuration :P
[12:28] <MenZa> :D
[12:28] <MenZa> elkbuntu: results sent.
[12:28] <MenZa> :)
[12:28] <elkbuntu> :)
[12:29] <Klaidas> hmm, what survey?
[12:30] <elkbuntu> http://surveys.geekosophical.net
[12:30] <Klaidas> hmm
[12:33] <elkbuntu> that would be him going
[12:39] <Klaidas> *submitted*
[12:43] <elkbuntu> yay
[12:44] <MenZa> :D
[12:44] <MenZa> elkbuntu: how many surveys have you gotten so far?
[12:45] <elkbuntu> 3,486 current, 299 potential, 848 preivous = 4,633
[05:32] <poningru> hmm
[05:44] <poningru> elkbuntu: I figured it out
[05:44] <poningru> I installed .4
[05:44] <poningru> the edgy one
[05:45] <poningru> elkbuntu: upgrade your gobby
[05:45] <elkbuntu> poningru, sec
[05:46] <elkbuntu> poningru, im currently installing knot3 on my laptop
[05:48] <poningru> yeah trying to figure out how to accommodate both versions with sobby
[05:49] <elkbuntu> the short answer is probably 'you cant'
[05:51] <poningru> yeah I was thinking of having both daemons running at the same time
[05:51] <poningru> and then updating the file every 2 mins or something
[05:51] <poningru> but too much work
[05:54] <elkbuntu> yeah
[05:55] <elkbuntu> we need a 'feature of the week' still, since i cant quite get my mind around the things corey suggested
[06:46] <elkbuntu> poningru, you havent gobbied any more on the UWN, have you?
[06:46] <poningru> nope
[07:17] <ompaul> elkbuntu, is it done yet?
[07:18] <Klaidas> are we there yet? :)
[07:18] <ompaul> daddy
[07:34] <poningru> uwn is not done yet
[08:09] <ompaul> issue 14?
[08:09] <ompaul> sorry
[08:10] <ompaul> did anyone ask riddel for his take on akademy?
[08:10] <ompaul> I only went to one talk at it - and it was an FSF one
[08:10] <ompaul> or FSFE one