[12:15] <nimrod> skreet_away: thank you! that was it
[12:15] <skreet_away> nimrod: No problem, sorry I didn't help ya sooner.
[12:15] <nimrod> ok :-)
[12:16] <dan__> hey does anyone know of a program that plays wmv's
[12:16] <Zaire> vlc
[12:16] <dan__> hmm
[12:16] <dan__> i have that
[12:16] <Hawkwind> dan__: mplayer and others if you have the right codecs installed
[12:16] <dan__> what codecs do i need on vlc
[12:16] <chris_> have you installed the w32 codecs?
[12:17] <dan__> let me check
[12:17] <chris_> just search for w32codec in synaptic and you should find em
[12:17] <dan__> no
[12:17] <dan__> ok cool
[12:17] <dan__> thanx
[12:19] <dan__> i cant find it
[12:19] <zorglu_> you got multiverse repository ?
[12:19] <skreet_away> dan__: You have to have extra respositories install check ubuntuguide.org for a guide.
[12:19] <Hawkwind> !info w32codecs
[12:19] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:20] <OOD> it's in the seveas repo
[12:20] <dan__> win32 binary codecs ok i think i have that on the list
[12:21] <dan__> dang it
[12:21] <dan__> i dont
[12:21] <Max_-> Is it easy to make a software raid (SWraid1) if I have a laptop with 2 hdd???  And how do I partition at first?
[12:21] <dan__> i have all the repositories hilighted
[12:22] <skreet_away> dan__: Please check ubuntuguide.org for adding additional repos that DO NOT come with kubuntu :)
[12:22] <skreet_away> dan__: i.e. non-free codecs and the like.
[12:22] <chris_> dan: mmm, i was about to sugest selecting the optional repos, it should be there
[12:23] <dan__> oh ok let me check it out i think i may have figured it out
[12:24] <kdoell> hallo
[12:27] <chx> is there a way to download stuff from a mobile phone (Nokia 3220 or Sharp GX15/17)
[12:27] <lebifteksauvage> hi
[12:28] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[12:32] <jester45> any know if it possible to compress/decompress your whole drive drive
[12:33] <Sanne> hi
[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> jester45, what do you mean?
[12:33] <jester45> like as a file is being read it get decompressed
[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> like compess your whole HD?
[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> uhh i dont know about all that
[12:33] <skreet> Like with Windows Filesystem Compression?
[12:33] <jester45> and if you write to it it compresses it
[12:34] <jester45> yea maybe like that
[12:34] <MasterEvil`Lapto> Ok I launch tightvncserver, but i think it's sharing only one window?? anyway i can share entire desktop?
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> skreet, except that thing sucked
[12:34] <skreet> You don't want that, it sucks
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> and took up MORE space then not being compressed
[12:34] <skreet> Admiral_Chicago: There arn't enough system resources in the world to run off a compressed volume.
[12:34] <jester45> i want what is does
[12:34] <skreet> No you dont.
[12:34] <skreet> You want a new hard drive
[12:34] <skreet> with more storage space
[12:34] <jester45> i have 3TB
[12:35] <skreet> of what?
[12:35] <jester45> dont think new drive will help
[12:35] <skreet> movies, music?
[12:35] <skreet> compressed data?
[12:35] <jester45> both
[12:35] <jester45> verything
[12:35] <skreet> it's not going to help you to compress it
[12:35] <skreet> it's compressed media.
[12:35] <jester45> i have music programs movies just about anything you can think of
[12:35] <skreet> You dont want to compress it. It's terrible.
[12:36] <skreet> Thats why there isnt a good solution for it in Linux.
[12:36] <skreet> Because it's a bad idea.
[12:36] <skreet> Buy 3 TB more storage space, I guess..
[12:36] <jester45> wish i could do that
[12:36] <skreet> Or delete some `moviez`
[12:36] <jester45> wish there was a filesystem with that was like on big rar
[12:36] <jester45> i cant do that
[12:37] <skreet> No you dont.
[12:37] <skreet> You think you wish that.
[12:37] <skreet> How long does it take to rar something?
[12:37] <skreet> :)
[12:37] <jester45> i dont care about that
[12:37] <cpk2> can you imagine how long it would take to do anything
[12:37] <jester45> have like half rared
[12:37] <skreet> then rar the stuff you dont use
[12:37] <cpk2> oh, lets open this... decompressing...
[12:37] <jester45> half for storage other half for games/programs
[12:38] <cpk2> plus what would it decompress to? the pagefile?
[12:38] <jester45> i think my computer could handle that
[12:38] <skreet> cpk2: lol
[12:38] <jester45> ram
[12:38] <skreet> jester45: How much ram do you have?
[12:38] <cpk2> you are going to buffer a whole movie to ram?
[12:38] <jester45> my storage server has 12gb
[12:38] <jester45> i could
[12:39] <jester45> i want the one online that has 32gb
[12:39] <skreet> jester45: If you have 3 tb of hard disk and 12 gb of ram why is it so bad to add more hard disk space
[12:39] <jester45> it could do anything
[12:39] <skreet> jester45: Anything? Like watch movies?
[12:39] <jester45> becuase the case if full
[12:39] <skreet> jester45: lol.
[12:39] <jester45> lol
[12:39] <jester45> yea
[12:39] <jester45> many movies
[12:39] <skreet> 32gb of ram isnt for ANYTHING desktop
[12:39] <jester45> yea the 32gb is a desktop
[12:39] <jester45> isnt*
[12:39] <skreet> jester45: what I mean is you probably dont have a use for a system with 32gb of ram
[12:40] <skreet> jester45: Unless you have a 32gb mysql database, or something
[12:40] <MasterEvil`Lapto> or is using a compressed file system? :P
[12:40] <jester45> hehe
[12:40] <zorglu_> well a big 3d station may need that much :)
[12:40] <jester45> see
[12:40] <jester45> save room
[12:40] <MasterEvil`Lapto> i'm j/k.. i think i side with skreet
[12:40] <skreet> Yea, put all your movies in the 32gb of ram.
[12:40] <skreet> Power goes out.
[12:40] <skreet> Cry..
[12:40] <skreet> :P
[12:41] <jester45> lolk
[12:41] <jester45> i would be a bit mad
[12:41] <zorglu_> hehe ram as very fast disk :)
[12:41] <MasterEvil`Lapto> that's a lot of ram
[12:41] <skreet> yea
[12:41] <skreet> it's a server
[12:41] <skreet> :) google probably has 32gb of ram in their boxen
[12:41] <jester45> http://www.siliconmechanics.com/c221/storage-server.php
[12:41] <MasterEvil`Lapto> they're google though
[12:41] <cpk2> i would hope if you have something that huge its on a ups
[12:41] <skreet> cpk2: Agreed.
[12:41] <skreet> cpk2: Though if you're looking to store movies on a compressed filesystem you might not.
[12:42] <MasterEvil`Lapto> i'm sure they even have excess vespene gas

[12:42] <skreet> yes!
[12:42] <skreet> lol
[12:42] <cpk2> so you could technically load storage onto the ram
[12:42] <jester45> aa starcraft
[12:42] <cpk2> then if the power goes out save it to disk before the ups dies
[12:42] <jester45> lovethat game
[12:42] <jester45> butthe squarsare to big
[12:42] <skreet> cpk2: Or you could buy faster hard disk storage
[12:42] <skreet> cpk2: And more of it.
[12:43] <jester45> no disk is ram fast
[12:43] <cpk2> well high can you go with ram? 64 gigs?
[12:43] <skreet> You can't build a SCSI320 16TB raid out of RAM..
[12:43] <cpk2> how much does 64bit linux support?
[12:43] <skreet> AMD64?
[12:43] <skreet> 8gb.
[12:43] <skreet> 64-bit.
[12:43] <skreet> 64GB
[12:43] <skreet> I think.
[12:43] <lupine_85> only 8GB?
[12:43] <jester45> lol if you had a TB os ram
[12:43] <skreet> AMD64 arch is limited to 8gb, afaik
[12:44] <skreet> Addressing doesn't go that far.
[12:44] <jester45> i would never turn that computer off and use teh ram as a uber gameing system
[12:44] <cpk2> i am quite sure you can go over 8g
[12:44] <skreet> jester45 is probably the kind of person who would buy a 1900$ CAD card to gaming then be very disappointed.
[12:44] <skreet> cpk2: on AMD64? I think it's an arch limit.
[12:45] <MasterEvil`Lapto> what's command to configure WINE?
[12:45] <zorglu_> seems weird to me
[12:45] <lupine_85> Red HAt can do 1TB on amd64: https://www.redhat.com/rhel/details/limits/
[12:45] <lupine_85> it's just a matter of setting the right kernel options, I'd imagine
[12:45] <skreet> I just assumed it was a motherboard issue
[12:45] <jester45> how fast of a cpu show my storeage server have to run at max
[12:46] <skreet> I remember running into 3.75GB limits on AMD64 boxes running XP, probably an OS problem though
[12:46] <jester45> from what i can tell its at max
[12:46] <lupine_85> finding enough slots would be difficult...
[12:46] <skreet> jester45: I didnt understand anything you just said..
[12:46] <jester45> but all i did was give it to my friend to get it setup then added disks
[12:46] <cpk2> heres an interesting link too for ram http://blogs.msdn.com/slavao/archive/2005/06/03/424825.aspx
[12:46] <jester45> my storage server how fast should the cpu be
[12:47] <skreet> lupine_85: Maybe Multi-processor AMD 64 FX...
[12:47] <skreet> jester45: .. How fast of a CPU should you have in a storage server?
[12:47] <skreet> jester45: How often do you access your data?
[12:47] <zorglu_> Larger physical address space: Current implementations of the AMD64 architecture can address up to 1 tebibyte of RAM <- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD64
[12:47] <jester45> umm
[12:47] <zorglu_> is this naive ?
[12:47] <jester45> like all the time
[12:48] <jester45> probly a constant 1-2mbs and burst to 2 or 3 movies
[12:48] <cpk2> isnt it more like how many cpus should you have? =P
[12:49] <zorglu_> http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5158836.html <- they got 16gbyte on linux amd64
[12:49] <lupine_85> jester45: irrelevant, as you're limited by the Ethernet
[12:49] <lupine_85> Get 10GigE fibre and you might have to worry about that
[12:49] <lupine_85> jester45: it's not a big issue
[12:49] <lupine_85> switching to Intel (yuck) Pro ethernet would save you some CPU time and get better throughput
[12:49] <lupine_85> yes, the main limitation seems to be related to physical slots...
[12:50] <skreet> lupine_85: Not a fan of Intel?
[12:50] <lupine_85> no, but their Ethernet cards are the best
[12:50] <jester45> i havent had any problems with the speed yet
[12:50] <cpk2> gotta love the celerons, so cheap
[12:50] <jester45> mass the celerons
[12:50] <odwortek> hi, can You help me?
[12:50] <lupine_85> Sempon, Duron - cheap, faster
[12:50] <jester45> i can try
[12:51] <MasterEvil`Lapto> my vncserver is only sharing a console window, not my entire desktop. What gives?
[12:51] <odwortek> my installation is stoping
[12:51] <skreet> lupine_85: Sempron yes, Duron uggggh
[12:51] <skreet> Celeron D's are pretty slick
[12:51] <lupine_85> back to RAM... it took us... 17? years to fill up the new "more than enough" addressable space.  Go on..
[12:52] <lupine_85> AMD generally fab their chips in Germany
[12:52] <lupine_85> guess where Intel do it?
[12:53] <skreet> Malaysia
[12:53] <odwortek> jester45: everything you mentioned is ok
[12:53] <jester45> odwortek: have you tried to restart then trying it again
[12:54] <jester45> odwortek: it works sometimes
[12:54] <lupine_85> (Intel have some operations in ireland and the USA as well, but I think AMD are a safer bet generally)
[12:54] <lupine_85> plus, I like underdogs )
[12:54] <jester45> they not much of a underdog anymore
[12:54] <skreet> lupine_85: that makes me upset.
[12:55] <skreet> People who root for underdogs because they have a smaller marketshare
[12:55] <skreet> :P
[12:55] <skreet> Wanna know a secret?
[12:55] <odwortek> jester45: many times
[12:55] <odwortek> jester45: about 5
[12:55] <skreet> Intel's x86 division is a major part of their production
[12:55] <skreet> AMD makes all kinds of other things
[12:55] <skreet> :)
[12:55] <lupine_85> :gasp!: ;)
[12:55] <skreet> Like.. EEPROMs
[12:55] <skreet> and 286 chips!
[12:55] <skreet> lol
[12:55] <skreet> And now.. ATI video cards!
[12:55] <skreet> lol
[12:56] <Zaire> is there a .deb package for sdl 1.2.0?
[12:56] <lupine_85> !libsdl-1.2
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libsdl-1.2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <jester45> i want a supercomputer i would rent it out for 500,000 a hour
[12:56] <lupine_85> bah, it's called something like that
[12:56] <lupine_85> jester45: you'd face some stiff competition from BlueGene/L
[12:56] <jester45> aa some bombs would take care of that
[12:57] <jester45> boom booom booom anyone up for 100million now??
[12:57] <skreet> ...
[12:57] <jester45> that would be cool make a 100million a hour
[12:58] <skreet> ...
[12:58] <lupine_85> ah, blessed silence
[12:58] <jester45> i hate it
[12:58] <skreet> lupine_85: It's more that theres nothing that can be said
[12:58] <Sanne> Zaire: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=dapper&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=libsdl1.2&searchon=names
[12:58] <jester45> i like talking or errrrr typeing
[12:59] <lupine_85> no, it's more that a plonk in time saves nine :)
[12:59] <lupine_85> bed time for me, anyway - 14hr day tomorrow
[12:59] <jester45> hehe my playlist is like 16000 songs long and i hate some of the songs
[12:59] <jester45> and im nevergoing ot get to the end
[12:59] <skreet> lupine_85: I hear that.. I got a 14 hour day as well
[12:59] <skreet> I have a feeling the RIAA is going to catch you someday jester...
[12:59] <sandokan512> Hi
[01:00] <jester45> i got 0 hours
[01:00] <Zaire> thanks sanne
[01:00] <Sanne> Zaire: you're welcome
[01:00] <jester45> RIAA has nothing on me
[01:00] <skreet> :)
[01:00] <skreet> my ISP sent a friend of mine an E-Mail asking him to stop his BitTorrent
[01:00] <skreet> hahaha.
[01:00] <nihil_> hey, anyone uses rxvt-unicode console ?
[01:00] <jester45> lol
[01:00] <jester45> thats great
[01:01] <skreet> DMZ'd client = packet sniffing without worries.
[01:01] <LeeJunFan> I know 2 people who have gotten warning letters from lawyers.
[01:01] <skreet> I guess.
[01:01] <jester45> i like thepiratebay's threat letters and the responses
[01:02] <Raz`> This may seem like a stupid question, but most linux sites assume you know how to install linux programs. .bz2, .gz file, packages file?
[01:03] <jester45> one was this lawer for microsoft it was like 400 pages long  and they replyed with   so what
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> Raz`: kind of - at least how to untarr/zip them, most of them have a README file with installation instructions.
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> after you get it untarred.
[01:04] <jester45> i hate the errors whe installing
[01:04] <jester45> such an inconvenience
[01:05] <jester45> well im going to that friends house to ask him about my storage delema probly have to get a few more 500GBers
[01:05] <Raz`> This has no readme :(
[01:06] <lupine_85> INSTALL ?
[01:06] <jester45> cd to the folder type sudo ./configure && make
[01:06] <jester45> or something like that
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> !build
[01:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> Raz`: see what ubotu says ^^
[01:07] <jester45> dont listen to me
[01:19] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> does anyone in here know if it is possible to take a wireless connection, send it out through my network card and into a dlink router?
[01:20] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> via a bridge
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: so you are saying your computer is connected to a wireless network, and from there you want to connect to a dlink router so other people can use it as well?
[01:21] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> yes
[01:21] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> exactly
[01:21] <lupine_85> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: enable ip forwarding and you're away
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> yeah, there are many ways you could go about that.
[01:22] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> do i need a crossover or will a straight through cable work?
[01:22] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> from my computer back to the router\
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> the dlink probably auto senses so either one would work. Most new NIC's will as well.
[01:22] <lupine_85> assuming: 1) that the D-link router supports static routing; 2) that the D-link and the WAP are on different subnets; and 3) that you want to use static addressing (otherwise install a DHCP server on the linux PC)
[01:23] <lupine_85> oh, and you'd need to specify your PC as the default route in the WAP
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> you will also need to either use NAT or proxy_arp.
[01:24] <lupine_85> easier would be to buy an Atheros card, put it in your PC and use it as the AP
[01:24] <lupine_85> LeeJunFan: good point :). /me has public IPs all the way
[01:24] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> yeah i just got a prism2 card
[01:24] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> it was supposed to work as an access point
[01:24] <lupine_85> hostpad?
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: it can, but it can't be in managed and master mode at the same time - like atheros with madwifi-ng can.
[01:26] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> ahhh, any recommendation for a good atheros card?
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> I don't know that the atheros are available in any form other than minipci to be honest.
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> which would be internal to a laptop or desktop.
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> you can make it work with the prism just fine the way you want.
[01:28] <LeeJunFan> First - have you connected to the internet with the wireless network?
[01:28] <jacob_> I am having a problem with my screen res. any one help?
[01:28] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> yes
[01:28] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> on it right now, LeeJunFan
[01:28] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: and have you setup a network on eth0 for the dlink yet?
[01:29] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan,  not yet
[01:29] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> i have the cable plugged in
[01:29] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> and the router powered on
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: okay, you'll want to 'man interfaces' to learn how to configure the /etc/network/interfaces file for your eth0, you'll need to setup a LAN network on it with private IP addresses.
[01:30] <brandon_> how do I get adamantix through adept?
[01:31] <LeeJunFan> ie. eth0 should be <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>, the dlink can have the WAN interface configured as <IP_ADDRESS> with the default gateway being <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:32] <LeeJunFan> once you can ping the dlink router at <IP_ADDRESS>, then you need to enable forwarding on the linux box and setup NAT to translate the address of outgoing traffic.
[01:32] <LeeJunFan> And that should do it.
[01:32] <brandon_> I can't find adamantix on adept
[01:33] <MasterEvil`Lapto> okay i got my vncserver stuff worked out. I set it up to where i can launch it with an icon on desktop.. how can i keep it open? It seems to act like it's trying to load but then it just exits??
[01:33] <Hawkwind> brandon_: What is adamantix ?
[01:33] <LeeJunFan> brandon_: never heard of it.
[01:33] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan,  thanks a bunch man, appreciate it, ill give it a shot. also...
[01:33] <D4rkly> if i mount my xp drive using sudo mount its owned by root, can i mount a drive thats owned by user ?
[01:33] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: If it's set properly in fstab you can
[01:34] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> ive setup a wired bridge with firestarter before, would you recommend manually over using that?
[01:34] <D4rkly> i didnt want to use fstab
[01:34] <brandon_> umm... it's a program that goes to the websites and downloads the things you need and installs them, all you do is click the box and it leaves a checkmark and downloads it
[01:34] <Jucato> brandon_: I think you mean automatix
[01:34] <Jucato> !automatix > brandon_
[01:34] <LeeJunFan> D4rkly: mount -ouid=[username]  /dev/[device]  /mountpoint
[01:34] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> leejunfan, wouldnt firestarter take care of the nat translation?
[01:34] <brandon_> aww...  To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:38] <LeeJunFan> rawr: ^^
[01:38] <rawr> thanks
[01:39] <rawr> i hate having a large screen thats to large to operate....
[01:39] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: btw - bridging and wireless don't mix.
[01:40] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: so you need to do NAT / routing. The MAC layer of the wireless card will likely not allow "mac spoofing", which is needed for ethernet layer bridging.
[01:41] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, ahh ok i had tried that before and it gave me problems, no wonder
[01:41] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> ill just set it up the nat way
[01:42] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: yeah, it's less headache, some day if you are ambitious or _need_ real world IP's you can look into using proxy_arp instead of bridging, it basically has the same effect.
[01:45] <rawr> that was werid....
[01:45] <rawr> i typed in that sudo command to restart the x server i htink
[01:45] <rawr> and it just gos crazy........ and crashs
[01:46] <LeeJunFan> rawr: I take it you aren't on the machine with the x problems?
[01:46] <rawr> nope i am on it.
[01:47] <rawr> I think i read somthing about it crashing due to my viedo card
[01:47] <rawr> it don't restart or switch users either
[01:47] <LeeJunFan> rawr: can you pastbin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? and what resolution are you trying to achieve?
[01:47] <rawr> 1. how? N00b. 2. not sure smaller.
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:48] <lcohen> hi all, I have a Dell 700m, everything works fine, but I cannot seem to get my Fn-ESC key to work (it is mapped to standby by the laptop) where would I assign the key?  thanks
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> rawr: open the file like 'kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' ctrl-a to select all - ctrl-c to copy, then paste it at the address ubotu just post above for pastebin.
[01:49] <rawr> kk
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> rawr: so the display is actually larger than the screen? ie. you move the mouse to the edge of the screen and it scrolls the desktop?
[01:50] <rawr> just xorg.config not xorg config 1 and 2
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> rawr: no, just xorg.conf
[01:50] <rawr> kk
[01:51] <rawr> it fits i just like being able to config stuff.
[01:51] <Raz`> Anyone recommend a good C++ IDE for Ubuntu? I'm getting errors on every one I try to compile :(
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> rawr: are you trying to make the resolution higher or lower? -ie, higher would mean more room on the desktop - everything smaller, or lower resolution == desktop area smaller, icons and text bigger?
[01:52] <rawr> paste bin ded
[01:52] <rawr> ahh  higher.
[01:54] <Raz`> where do I get package gtk+-2.0?
[01:54] <LeeJunFan> rawr: okay, looking at your file - the Section "Screen" contains the line that defines what resolutions will be used. you have a virtual of 1400 1050, if you resolution is higher than that then you will get the scrolling effect I talked about.
[01:54] <LeeJunFan> rawr: but look at your modes line are all the modes your X is configured to use, the leftmost one is what it will boot too.
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> rawr: ctrl-alt-+ or crtl-alt- - on your numeric keypad with switch through those listed resolutions.
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> rawr: to change the default resolution it boots in - that one needs to be moved to the front "leftmost" of the modes line.
[01:56] <Sanne> Raz`: from your package manager. Search for it with: apt-cache search libgtk2.0
[01:56] <rawr> I see
[01:58] <dek> anybody here uses LaTeX?
[01:59] <Zaire> no my girlfriend had a headache lol
[02:00] <rawr> I think its good that people help other people.
[02:00] <rawr> Insted of relying upon people payed to do it
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> that's kind of what linux is about.
[02:00] <Zaire> I would if I could but I myself have a question lol
[02:00] <joscha> is a backport repo availble for Dapper/Knot?
[02:00] <rawr> humanity for others.
[02:00] <crimsun> joscha: yes, dapper-backports
[02:01] <Zaire> which is does anyone know if its possible to convert a .rpm to a .deb
[02:01] <crimsun> Zaire: alien
[02:01] <LeeJunFan> !alien
[02:01] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[02:01] <Zaire> hmmm dangerous ....sounds like my everyday computer use lol thanks crimsun
[02:02] <powermac> i've used it, necer had a problem
[02:02] <Sanne> Zaire: but first search the repositories if the package isn't already in the repositories
[02:02] <Zaire> it is I just got it with apt lol
[02:02] <Sanne> heh
[02:02] <joscha> thank you crimsun
[02:02] <Zaire> I work fast lol
[02:03] <powermac> is there a PDF creater/maker for ubuntu?
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> powermac: you can print to pdf from pretty much any application.
[02:04] <powermac> like on a mac?
[02:05] <joscha> print - pdfprinter ;)
[02:05] <LeeJunFan> powermac: I dunno....
[02:05] <LeeJunFan> powermac: so openoffice, gimp, inkscape, etc... all pdf creation utils.
[02:05] <powermac> mac os x you choose print, then there is an option to save as PDF rather than to print
[02:05] <LeeJunFan> powermac: same on linux.
[02:05] <LeeJunFan> at least on kde.
[02:05] <powermac> excelent
[02:05] <joscha> powermac: on kde there is a virtual printer which saves the file as an pdf
[02:06] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[02:07] <Sanne> powermac: another way is to print to file (*.ps), and then convert it to pdf by ps2pdf
[02:07] <rawr> Ahhh just rembered why i hated windows today.
[02:08] <rawr> The laggyness....
[02:08] <Zaire> how bout its windows that one works for me lol
[02:08] <[Relic] > it's not lagging it is just busy since it can't do 2 things at once  :)
[02:08] <rawr> Its horrid. so i vandelized a public computers desktop. Winblows Also sucks
[02:09] <Raz`> I can't access my USB stick, says only root can mount it. How do I fix that?
[02:09] <Zaire> would be funny to change the boot skin to that lol
[02:09] <rawr> XD
[02:09] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan,  know of any quick howtos on ip forwarding and nat?  i can ping back and forth now
[02:09] <joscha> crimsun: is the backport directory empty or is just the de.archive..... mirror outdated
[02:10] <powermac> Raz: open konsole, go to root (sudo -s)
[02:10] <powermac> then type "konqueror"
[02:10] <Raz`> done
[02:10] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: "sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" turns on forwarding man sysctl - to set permanently edit /etc/sysctl.conf
[02:10] <powermac> konqueror will open with root privledges
[02:11] <rawr> whats the diffrence from kdesu and su -?
[02:11] <crimsun> joscha: it definitely exists and has packages.
[02:11] <rawr> i use  kdesu all the time.
[02:11] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: actually you should probably check the how-to's on tldp.org
[02:11] <Jucato> !kdesu
[02:11] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:11] <Raz`> I have to do that every time I open it?
[02:11] <powermac> then go find your USB stick mount point and right click on it and choose mount
[02:11] <Raz`> I can't set it so that it doesn't need root permission?
[02:12] <rawr> I think thers a group for that
[02:12] <powermac> you hvae to edit the fstab file
[02:12] <powermac> not really sure what to put though!
[02:13] <Sanne> joscha: this is my line for dapper backports from the de archive in my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24012
[02:13] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: hrm, maybe there isn't much useful info there on iptables after all. anyway iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s [ip of dlink]  -j MASQUERADE
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: will get it going, along with turning on forwarding.
[02:14] <rawr> you can learn alot by just watching.........
[02:14] <rawr> others helping others.
[02:16] <Zaire> I learn by breaking it lol
[02:17] <rawr> Experince prevents mistakes
[02:17] <rawr> but experise comes from making thouse mistakes
[02:17] <[Relic] > unless it is political experience and then it increases them
[02:17] <rawr> XD
[02:18] <Zaire> so how do you use alien?
[02:18] <rawr> i have learned that there is 2 things  you must never talk about if not to offend someone
[02:18] <LeeJunFan> Zaire: man alien
[02:18] <rawr> religion and politics.
[02:18] <LeeJunFan> Zaire: basically alien -d [rpm file]
[02:18] <MasterEvil`Lapto> rawr: and gnome vs kde
[02:18] <Zaire> ah ic thanks lol
[02:19] <Zaire> yea cause kde is obviously superior lol
[02:19] <rawr> Gnome is good but it just freaks me out.
[02:19] <MasterEvilAce> KD EROX
[02:19] <rawr> i am like wheres all my setting buttons aahhhhh
[02:19] <Zaire> gnomes are evil lol
[02:19] <MasterEvilAce> although i like the orange of gnome
[02:19] <rawr> kde owns
[02:19] <dek> anyone here uses LaTeX?
[02:19] <Zaire> I agree lol
[02:19] <MasterEvilAce> condoms?
[02:19] <dek> no
[02:20] <Zaire> yeps trojans magnums lol
[02:20] <rawr> but i am thinking about using the thingy for xubuntu
[02:20] <dek> the TeX macros
[02:20] <rawr> on my old cpu
[02:20] <[Relic] > if we can't talk politics and religion; change the subject to how to get a webcam with an omni vision chip set to work in kubuntu  :)
[02:20] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan,  ok i entered those commands, computer connected through routher cannot route past gateway
[02:21] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> do i need anything special, in hosts, or network?
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: on a machine that is connected to the dlink - can you ping the IP of eth0 on your linux box?
[02:22] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, nope doesnt look like it
[02:22] <joscha> Sanne: thank you
[02:22] <Zaire> oh yea anyone know how to get transparent windows in fluxbox?
[02:22] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, might i need a crossover cable
[02:22] <Sanne> joscha: you're welcome
[02:22] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, this is an older 500mhz ibook
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: what IP is the linux eth0? and what IP did you give the dlink WAN interface?
[02:23] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: maybe, on the linux box run 'ethtool eth0' and see if it says yes by link detected.
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> Anybody happen to have the md5sums for the 6.06 DVD isos?
[02:24] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, linux <IP_ADDRESS> dlink <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:24] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> link detected
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: ok, what IP addresses are in use on the LAN side of the dlink?
[02:25] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> only 1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:25] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> err .0.100
[02:26] <[Relic] > does anyone actually know how to get ovamship to function properly and read the USB info from the cwebam and microphone or at least the webcam?
[02:26] <[Relic] > ovcamchip  :)
[02:26] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> shoud i change the lan ips the router distributes to a different range?
[02:26] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: no, shouldn't matter.
[02:26] <rawr> I just noticed.................
[02:26] <Zaire> the rpm I needed to convert was vmware....why can't people just all get with it and use .deb :S
[02:26] <rawr> my flash don't work i got from easy ubutnu.
[02:26] <rawr> thats gay.
[02:27] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, yeah thats what i figured..
[02:27] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> hmmmm
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: you should certainly be able to ping the <IP_ADDRESS> from the machine at <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: can you at least ping <IP_ADDRESS> (I assume that's the dlink's lan addy) from <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:28] <joscha> Zaire: vmweare-player is in the repos
[02:28] <joscha> or do you need vmware-server?
[02:28] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, ok looks like now it IS pinging
[02:28] <Zaire> well I was gonna use it to try windows but a server app wouldn't be half bad either
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: pinging the linux IP? <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:29] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, yep, its working now
[02:29] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> can ping linux ip
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: okay, can you get to the internet from it?
[02:29] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> nope, it wont ping domains or other ips
[02:30] <Zaire> the one I was trying to get was workstation
[02:31] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> so close...
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: you tried an IP address or just a host/domain name? we aren't up to trying names yet :)
[02:31] <rawr> I take it setting up networks is a pain the the @ss
[02:32] <Zaire> yeps lol
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> this is kind of complicated one.
[02:32] <rawr> I see
[02:32] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan,  I tried an ip
[02:32] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> no ips either.
[02:32] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> :(
[02:32] <Zaire> now how do I use vmware player?
[02:33] <rawr> vmware  don't that let you boot windows from linux?
[02:33] <Zaire> any OS you install on it
[02:34] <rawr> I see
[02:34] <Zaire> setting a static IP to a server is easy just ....sudo ifconfig <device"eth0"> "IP"
[02:34] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: on phone, bbiab.
[02:34] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, ok cool thanks
[02:36] <MasterEvilAce> ok. what the monkey lover. Firefox is displaying some HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGE fonts
[02:37] <rawr> try holding ctrl and moving the scroll wheel
[02:38] <rawr> tends to adjust fonts for me at least in firefox.
[02:38] <MasterEvilAce> yeah i set the text size to normal
[02:38] <MasterEvilAce> it's like.. some pages are normal
[02:38] <rawr> that works.
[02:38] <MasterEvilAce> others are RIDICULOUS
[02:38] <rawr> very much so
[02:38] <MasterEvilAce> google.com fonts are fine. evilavatar.com the text in news articles is HUGE. like 4x as big as firefox in windows
[02:39] <MasterEvilAce> maybe i should just get used to konqueror
[02:39] <rawr> I tend to\use konqueror more than firefox.
[02:40] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: okay, well either forwarding isn't working, or iptables isn't. did you run 'sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1' or just edit /etc/sysctl.conf?
[02:40] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato or Hawkwind are you by any chance werking on Hardware Database for Ubuntu?
[02:40] <Admiral_Chicago> on Edgy
[02:40] <carlos> Hi, everyone! I am from Brazil and I have a question: How ou where can I find a text about how to use a camcorder as a webcam on linux, especially on kubuntu?
[02:42] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: nope. I think that's Riddel's project?
[02:43] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, neither of those, just entered the iptables commands
[02:43] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, could be the problem eh, haha
[02:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, it is, but its not in the repons
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> repos*
[02:44] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: in Edgy?
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, i needed to grab a package off his page
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/hwdb/
[02:46] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I think that's for Edgy. the hwdb in Dapper is GNOME/GTK-based, afaik
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> it is now Kubuntu availbale
[02:46] <LeeJunFan> carlos: that kind of depends on the camera itself. Are you connecting to it with firewire or usb?
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> of GTK 4 iirc
[02:46] <rawr> strange..... adept don't seem to want to open.....
[02:47] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, we have Ips now!
[02:47] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: hwdb for Kubuntu comes with Edgy.
[02:47] <Admiral_Chicago> base?
[02:47] <Admiral_Chicago> nothing sperial needed?
[02:47] <Jucato> !hwdb-client-common edgy
[02:47] <ubotu> hwdb-client-common: common files for Ubuntu Hardware Database client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 292 kB
[02:47] <carlos> I tried do connect on both of them. I tried on firewire and, after this, on usb.
[02:48] <Admiral_Chicago> how do i run it then?
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: okay, you probably need to set the dlink nameservers to be the same as what is listed in /etc/resolv.conf on your linux routerbox.
[02:48] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: hold on, starting VMWare
[02:48] <rawr> I learned the other day not to try puting hardrives where cd drives go.
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> cr4sh0v3rr1d3: then it should hand those out via DHCP to the machine on the LAN side of the dlink. you will have to release and renew on the dlink connected computer afterward to get it to update the dns settings.
[02:50] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: strange, I thought it would be in the menus
[02:50] <LeeJunFan> carlos: if the camera is supported as a video device on usb it should automatically work, with firewire you may have better luck - it's been a long time, but there's a video4linux webpage that might help. gimme a sec...
[02:51] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> LeeJunFan, hey man thanks alot, we are up and browsing now
[02:51] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> props to LeeJunFan
[02:51] <carlos> LeeJunFan, thank you too much! I shall wait.
[02:51] <rawr> Yay
[02:51] <rawr> someone wins
[02:51] <rawr> gag.
[02:51] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> lol
[02:51] <rawr> i hope your not both dudes ...
[02:52] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> haha
[02:52] <rawr> i would have to smack you if so.
[02:52] <lcohen> Hi all, does anyone know how to get my Dell Fn key working in Kubuntu?
[02:52] <LeeJunFan> that doesn't really mean anything.
[02:53] <rawr> I want a beard.
[02:53] <rawr> thus i shave XD
[02:53] <cr4sh0v3rr1d3> ehhh i stopped shaving a couple years ago
[02:53] <rawr> yay shlops
[02:54] <carlos> LeeJunFan, my camcorder is a JVC 93. I do not know if it is suported as a video4linux device. How can I discover about?
[02:54] <LeeJunFan> carlos: http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/
[02:54] <Blissex> carlos: most if not all DV devices are supported, and most recent camcorders are DV.
[02:55] <LeeJunFan> carlos: I think there's a driver that will get the firewire to act as a video4linux device, but I can't remember. I could swear I did it once.
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> carlos, Blissex: that's what I was thinking, if it's firewire it might just work if you modprobe dv ?
[02:56] <ubuntu> hola!
[02:56] <Blissex> LeeJunFan: allegedly :-)
[02:56] <Blissex> LeeJunFan: and it would be 'modprobe dv1394'
[02:57] <ubuntu> hbiviuyigihjuijum
[02:57] <ubuntu> oooo
[02:57] <ubuntu> oooo
[02:57] <ubuntu> oooo
[02:57] <ubuntu> oooo
[02:57] <ubuntu> oooo
[02:57] <ubuntu> oooo
[02:57] <ubuntu> oooo
[02:57] <ubuntu> oooo
[02:57] <ubuntu> oooo
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> stop
[02:57] <Jucato> Hawkwind: ping
[02:57] <ubuntu> ok
[02:57] <ubuntu> hi
[02:57] <Jucato> nvm
[02:57] <Jucato> please don't flood the channel
[02:58] <ubuntu> oka
[02:58] <DaNaAe> alguien habla espaol por aki ???
[02:59] <Hawkwind> !es
[02:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> carlos: looks like a no go: http://www.linux1394.org/video1394.php
[03:02] <rawr> yummmmm
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> carlos: There are no Video4Linux drivers for Digital Camera video or DV on ieee1394. Instead, one must use a user-space program in conjunction with the vloopback Video4Linux driver.
[03:02] <rawr> steak sandwhich with yoshima cracked peper sauce and potatos
[03:04] <rawr> tenderness,.....
[03:06] <ref> hello all
[03:06] <ref> does anyone tried to run pptpconfig in edgy?
[03:07] <rawr> gag adept is not working......
[03:07] <rawr> !paste
[03:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:07] <rawr> oh wait
[03:07] <rawr> yea il pastebin it'
[03:08] <rawr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24045
[03:08] <carlos> LeeJunFan and Blissex, as a matter of fact, I would like to use my camcorder on programs like AMSN 0.95 or Kopete. I know that they are used well by webcam. I myself have used a webcam, but I would like to use my camcorder because it is better than a simple webcam. Is it possible?
[03:09] <Jucato> rawr: why are you in root?
[03:09] <Jucato> don't login as root, then run "kdesu adept"
[03:09] <rawr> yea i di run a root shell
[03:09] <Hawkwind> You're not supposed to
[03:10] <rawr> il give the error messagve when not in root
[03:11] <rawr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24046
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> carlos: judging by the what it says on the link I posted above - it isn't. :(
[03:12] <rufsketch1_> hey all
[03:12] <Jucato> rawr: ignore those errors
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> unless you can get the videoloopback thing working they mention.
[03:13] <Jucato> rawr: Adept still launches, right?
[03:13] <rawr> its not running though.
[03:13] <rufsketch1_> i was trying to set up a printer on a newly installed kubuntu system
[03:13] <rawr> nope
[03:13] <rufsketch1_> using CUPS
[03:13] <rufsketch1_> but it asks for a username and password via a popup window
[03:13] <rufsketch1_> as there is no root in kubuntu
[03:13] <rufsketch1_> what am i to put in these dialogs?
[03:13] <rawr> adept installer dos though
[03:13] <rawr> but adept its self don't launch
[03:14] <Jucato> rawr: even when launching from the command line? or only when launching from the K Menu?
[03:14] <rawr> i have tryed both.
[03:14] <rawr> il try k menu again though
[03:15] <rawr> nope no laucnh
[03:15] <rufsketch1_> can anyone be of any help?
[03:15] <rufsketch1_> !CUPS
[03:15] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:15] <Jucato> hm.. that's strange. but I dn't think it has anything to do with those error messages
[03:16] <rawr> verry strange
[03:17] <rawr> perhaps editing xorg has something to do with ti
[03:17] <rufsketch1_> hellloooooooooo?
[03:17] <rufsketch1_> can anyone help me with cups?
[03:17] <Snake> HELOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo
[03:17] <rufsketch1_> snake:  i just installed kubuntu
[03:18] <rufsketch1_> and i'm slightly annoyed by the lack of a root account
[03:18] <rawr> If someone  is going to help you they will.
[03:18] <Snake> rufsketch1_, sudo -s .... enjoy...
[03:18] <rufsketch1_> i'm trying to install an hp printer using cups
[03:18] <Snake> rufsketch1_, but I dont know anything about cups :(
[03:18] <rufsketch1_> snake: i can't, cups is a GUI app
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> rufsketch1_, did you try system setting
[03:19] <rufsketch1_> Admiral_Chicago: what do you mean?
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> look in system settings -- printer
[03:19] <rufsketch1_> no no
[03:20] <rufsketch1_> i need to install it first
[03:20] <rufsketch1_> but when cups asks me for a username and password
[03:20] <rufsketch1_> via a popup window
[03:20] <rufsketch1_> what am i supposed to type in it
[03:20] <ironfroggy> what is the best way to get python 2.5 installed properly? im guessing its not in apt for a while?
[03:20] <rufsketch1_> normally i would type in root as user name and the root pass
[03:20] <rufsketch1_> but those don't exist so.....
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> rufsketch1_, kubuntu can install it automatically
[03:20] <rawr> ahh well i am bored think i may just boot windows to play C&C generals
[03:21] <rufsketch1_> well i'm not familiar with that process, and i'd like to know for future referance how it's done
[03:21] <rawr> NIght everyone.
[03:21] <rufsketch1_> Admiral_Chicago:  is it even possible?
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> rufsketch1_, to do whatL
[03:21] <Zaire> how do you get transparent windows in fluxbox?
[03:22] <rufsketch1_> to gain root access via a gui when asked for the root name and pass?
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> rufsketch1_, yes, type kdesu <command> in the "run command" in K menu
[03:23] <rufsketch1_> Admiral_Chicago: thats not what i mean
[03:23] <rufsketch1_> an actual window pops up, it has a box for my username, and one for my password
[03:23] <rufsketch1_> it wants the root username
[03:23] <rufsketch1_> and the root password
[03:23] <rufsketch1_> what do i type here?
[03:24] <__mikem> sudo passwd root
[03:25] <rufsketch1_> __mikem: where do i type that?
[03:25] <rufsketch1_> in the username box?
[03:25] <__mikem> you type that in a shell
[03:26] <LeeJunFan> rufsketch1_: no , at a shell - konsole. To set a root password.
[03:26] <rufsketch1_> oh
[03:26] <rufsketch1_> cool
[03:26] <rufsketch1_> so that will make a root password and account?
[03:26] <LeeJunFan> rufsketch1_: yes, the account is there, it's just disabled, setting a password with the passwd command will activate it.
[03:27] <Zaire> ls
[03:27] <rufsketch1_> oic
[03:27] <rufsketch1_> kool
[03:27] <Zaire> damn wrong window
[03:27] <rufsketch1_> thnx
[03:27] <Zaire> lol
[03:27] <LeeJunFan> although I've not needed root enabled for anything, you really should avoid it.
[03:27] <LeeJunFan> owell.
[03:28] <LeeJunFan> see - give a guy a root account and "Connection Reset"!
[03:28] <Jucato> lol
[03:28] <Jucato> morning Hobbsee!
[03:29] <LeeJunFan> Ugh, well if Hobbsee is here, I'm leaving....
[03:29] <LeeJunFan> :) no really - I gotta run to the store :p
[03:29] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[03:29] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:31] <draik> Jucato!
[03:31] <Jucato> hi draik!! :)
[03:31] <Ekkostorm_> Would this be a place I can get some support?
[03:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Ekkostorm, it sure is
[03:32] <Ekkostorm> K... This is going to sound noob, but it is the only thing in Kubuntu I haven't figured out how to do...
[03:32] <Ekkostorm> I have a scanner, a Canon FB630P to be exact.  I can't figure out how to get it installed...
[03:32] <Ekkostorm> I looked around in Kooka, and could find anything...
[03:32] <Ekkostorm> Am I missing something?
[03:34] <Ekkostorm> or is there documentation I'm missing?
[03:34] <Jucato> wb Hobbsee
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Ekkostorm, i have no idea
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> you try the forums?
[03:35] <Ekkostorm> LOL...
[03:35] <Ekkostorm> I've been combing the forums...
[03:35] <Ekkostorm> Sallright...
[03:36] <Ekkostorm> I'll figure it out...
[03:36] <cpk2> Ekkostorm: does it show up is lsusb?
[03:36] <cpk2> assuming its connected by usb
[03:37] <Ekkostorm> oops... just threw a term past me I don't know...
[03:37] <Ekkostorm> and it is actually a parallel scanner
[03:38] <Ekkostorm> can I run lsusb from the terminal?
[03:39] <cpk2> Ekkostorm: yes
[03:39] <cpk2> but lsusb is for usb devices
[03:39] <cpk2> i suppose lshw might show what is in the parallel port
[03:39] <Ekkostorm> oh... okay... I see the usb devices..
[03:40] <Kr4t05> !games
[03:40] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:41] <cpk2> if it at least shows up in lshw then you will have something to go from
[03:41] <cpk2> if you dont even pick up the scanner then i would imagine that it might be quite a bit of work
[03:41] <Thorrn4> hello everyone, I have a little problem, I hid the top of the konqueror menu that says: FILE and HELP and such, how can I get it back?
[03:42] <Ekkostorm> hmm...
[03:42] <Ekkostorm> it's interesting.... I switched to Kubuntu from Mandriva because Kubuntu is easier to use...  But installing the scanner was the one thing Mandriva didn't have a problem with...
[03:43] <cpk2> Ekkostorm: you might just not know the "Easy way" =P
[03:44] <abattoir> Thorrn4: Ctrl+M
[03:45] <Ekkostorm> And the hunt goes on...
[03:45] <Ekkostorm> :)
[03:46] <Thorrn4> ty so much abattoir!!
[03:46] <cpk2> the problem might be because its on the parallel port
[03:46] <abattoir> Thorrn4: np :)
[03:46] <cpk2> i mean who uses parallel these days!
[03:46] <Thorrn4> I was wondering abattoirdo u kno a repo that has xchat?
[03:47] <Thorrn4> are there other repos that can be added?
[03:47] <Zaire> ugh parallel gross lol
[03:47] <Thorrn4> I just installed it
[03:47] <Ekkostorm> LOL... I know... I just haven't gotten around to getting a usb scanner yet...
[03:48] <cpk2> !repos
[03:48] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:50] <Ekkostorm> Here's something... does anyone have any experience with sane?
[03:50] <cpk2> !sane
[03:50] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[03:51] <cpk2> you would still need to get it to recognize your scanner probably
[03:51] <Ekkostorm> If you have the driver portion, you may be able to install it...
[03:52] <cpk2> well there you go
[03:56] <Parkotron> Where can I find the w32codecs .deb? The cipherfunk.org repository seems to be dead?
[03:56] <Parkotron> !w32codecs
[03:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:57] <NeoSaki> !xorg
[03:57] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:57] <NeoSaki> !xorgconf
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <NeoSaki> anyone know where the xorg.conf is located in kubuntu?
[03:57] <NeoSaki> !xorg.conf
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <cpk2> NeoSaki: /etc/X11
[03:59] <NeoSaki> thx
[03:59] <NeoSaki> i was using /etc/x11
[04:00] <tony_> hi
[04:00] <tony_> dose anyone got experiance with KXDOCKER ??
[04:08] <Xanith> could someone possibly walk me through how to mount my digital camera?
[04:10] <Zaire> I would but I can't remember how I mounted mine lol
[04:11] <Xanith> lol well ur no help...
[04:11] <Xanith> haha just kiddin
[04:11] <Thorrn4> Is there a kubuntu repo that has mplayer?
[04:12] <Jucato> !mplayer
[04:12] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[04:12] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:12] <kutan> Can someone tell me how to install "make"? :\
[04:12] <Jucato> kutan: install the package "build-essential"
[04:13] <kutan> It's you again!
[04:13] <kutan> lol
[04:13] <Jucato> heh
[04:13] <Zaire> start menu thingy kinfo center and devices takes you to the area I think you need to be in
[04:13] <Xanith> so anyone know how to mount my digital camera?
[04:13] <Jucato> Zaire: start menu thingy = K Menu :P
[04:14] <Zaire> !usb
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <Zaire> I can't remember the command for mounting usb devices either :S
[04:16] <Zaire> can anyone tell me how I can run vmware player once its installed?
[04:17] <Jucato> Zaire: it should be added to the "start menu thingy". if it isn't, try running the command "kbuildsycoca --incremental" and check again
[04:18] <Thorrn4> Jucato: I cant find out where to d/l it
[04:18] <Jucato> Xanith: I'm not absolutely sure, but I thought that digital cameras, like mp3 players, are automounted as USB Mass Storage Devices
[04:18] <Jucato> Thorrn4: the links don't mention it?
[04:19] <Xanith> well like i plugged it in and it said theres a new device or something
[04:19] <Xanith> i clicked open in new window and nothing came up...
[04:19] <Zaire> I get unexpected argument incremental
[04:19] <Jucato> Xanith: try to go to "media:/" in Konqueror (or System Menu > Storage Media in the Panel)
[04:20] <tony_> is there plugin as FLASH PLAYER for ubuntu 64 ??
[04:20] <NeoSaki> tony_ no
[04:20] <tony_> :S
[04:20] <NeoSaki> Anyone know if Edgy has better ATI support abilities?
[04:20] <Jucato> Zaire: are you sure you used "--incremental"
[04:20] <Zaire> yep
[04:20] <tony_> I thought there was something like flashjava or something ?
[04:21] <Thorrn4> Jucato: no, it doesnt
[04:21] <Jucato> Zaire: anyway, ignore the error messages and try looking into K Menu again, under System, I think
[04:21] <tony_> anyone with experiance with kxdocker ??? :)
[04:21] <Jucato> Thorrn4: it says there " Beginning with Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake, you no longer need to match your CPU to the proper MPlayer package. Simply install the mplayer package from the  Multiverse repository.
[04:21] <Zaire> nope nothing is system or utilities
[04:22] <Jucato> Zaire: oh well, "vmware-player" should do it. btw, where did you install it from? Adept or apt-get?
[04:22] <Zaire> apt
[04:22] <Thorrn4> Jucato: I enabled ALL of the repos and its still not there
[04:22] <Jucato> !multiverse
[04:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:23] <Jucato> Thorrn4: did you add the multiverse repo? (it's not written there by default, much less disabled)
[04:23] <Ekkostorm> anyone know what cc is?  Context is while trying to run a ./configure
[04:23] <Jucato> s/disabled/enabled
[04:23] <Martijn81> anyone know of the existence of a tool that that backups all Kontakt plus kgpg settings and data?
[04:23] <shegman> why are my kde settings reset everytime i reboot? and how can i fix it?
[04:24] <Thorrn4> ty Jucato!!
[04:25] <Ekkostorm> Wow, this place suddenly got busy...
[04:26] <Xanith> is there anyway to access a samba client on the network?
[04:26] <shegman> smb:/ in konqueror perhaps
[04:26] <Zaire> hmmm my vmware problem stems from all the vm packages but vmware player itself got install cause something is broken :S
[04:27] <kutan> See yas
[04:28] <Ekkostorm> I am trying to run a configure before compiling a driver and I get this error message "configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH"
[04:28] <Ekkostorm> Any ideas?
[04:29] <Zaire> There was an error committing changes. There was possibly a problem downloading some packages, or else the commit would break packages.
[04:30] <Ekkostorm> well that sux...
[04:30] <shegman> Ekkostorm seems to me that you have a c-compiler installed that doesn't work with your program
[04:31] <Zaire> what does that error I got mean?
[04:31] <Ekkostorm> hmm...  thats kind of odd...
[04:31] <abattoir> !b-e
[04:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:31] <abattoir> Ekkostorm: ^^^
[04:31] <abattoir> Ekkostorm: and install build-essential
[04:32] <pierreth> abattoir: !
[04:32] <abattoir> hi pierreth :)
[04:32] <shegman> why are my kde settings reset everytime i reboot? and how can i fix it?
[04:32] <pierreth> abattoir: You know, I sold my Mac and I made KDE my home
[04:33] <abattoir> pierreth: the Mac mini?
[04:34] <pierreth> abattoir: yes
[04:34] <Ash-Fox> My Mac had too many hardware problems, and the OS annoyed the hell out of me. The only thing I can say MacOSX had, was pretty fonts.
[04:34] <abattoir> pierreth: nice :)
[04:35] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: Yes the Mac is very pretty
[04:35] <Ash-Fox> I didn't like the interface.
[04:35] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: I like it a lot by I like KDE too
[04:35] <Jucato> pretty pretty interface... :P
[04:36] <pierreth> What I miss in KDE is the Drag&drop
[04:36] <pierreth> I also miss some shortcut
[04:37] <pierreth> Like hide others
[04:37] <Jucato> pierreth: XP has the ultimate drag&drop: drag your computer to the window and drop it :P
[04:37] <Ash-Fox> I just remember the constant issues. No, Safari could not upload ftp files, no finder could view hidden files on demand. No, in order to change your settings you have to edit super secret config files in xml, and if you make a syntax error, macosx may refuse to even load aqua.
[04:37] <pierreth> Jucato: lol
[04:37] <Ash-Fox> Oh, and of course restart
[04:38] <pierreth> The complexity is too much hidden
[04:38] <pierreth> By on the Mac my mouse works but not really well in KDE
[04:39] <pierreth> The Mac has bundle too
[04:39] <Ash-Fox> Seriously, what was hard about putting a "view hidden files" menu item in finder? Would that be considered not user friendly, as much as having to type some long command I have to keep looking up in the terminal, then killing all finder proccesses and restarting it...
[04:39] <chaca> ff
[04:39] <pierreth> I hope Linux will have bundles one day
[04:40] <Ash-Fox> Bundles of what? Trial software like ms office and photoshop?
[04:40] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: You use PathFinder to replace the Finder
[04:40] <pierreth> You can use PathFinder instead
[04:40] <Zaire> god theres nothing worse then having a crap load of useless software
[04:40] <pierreth> The Mac has self countain applications
[04:40] <Jucato> and you can use Firefox instead of Safari :P
[04:41] <Ash-Fox> The mac had loads of broken GNU utilities too
[04:41] <pierreth> You don't have to put icons on your apps on the Mac
[04:41] <Zaire> mac is going to be different to cause its unix based
[04:41] <Ash-Fox> pierreth, please note, I did end up using pathfinder.. but come on.. :)
[04:41] <abattoir> aah, a mac debate :)
[04:42] <pierreth> lol
[04:42] <Jucato> lol
[04:42] <Zaire> I think I would be tempted to buy a mac book lol
[04:42] <pierreth> I think that some things are nice on Mac
[04:42] <Ash-Fox> I mean, in the end I had KDE running under fink (gives you apt-get under mac)
[04:42] <Zaire> its a sexy interface
[04:42] <intelikey> pierreth icon ?    what's that?   you must be talking about that pointy clicky thingy
[04:43] <Zaire> oh yea how do you remove deb packahes in cli?
[04:43] <pierreth> intelikey: On the Mac an application is a bundle, a folder, the folder has the icon
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> bah, the only interface you need looks like this: junfan@jkd:~$
[04:43] <pierreth> You don't have to edit the K menu
[04:43] <intelikey> Zaire sudo apt-get remove blah
[04:44] <pierreth> You don't know an editor at all
[04:44] <Ash-Fox> Oh! I love that bug in apache package that comes on the macosx cd, where it only sends something like the first 32kb of files. Then I try compiling apache2 from source using apache.org's sourcecode. Which created a interesting scenario of my entire desktop starting to freezing up whenever I'd have 3+ people downloading off it :P
[04:44] <Zaire> it wasn't an apt grab though just a .deb I downloaded as an rpm and converted lol
[04:44] <Kr4t05> LeeJunFan: Keep in mind all of the ex-Win98 users that will be exodusting over here.
[04:44] <Kr4t05> :P
[04:44] <intelikey> Zaire shouldn't matter
[04:44] <Jucato> exodusting... :)
[04:45] <LeeJunFan> Kr4t05: I'd rather not. :) Let MS keep the headaches.
[04:45] <pierreth> Well, now I am on opensource, if I don't like something, I'll change it
[04:45] <Ash-Fox> Zaire, theres GNUstep availible for Kubuntu if you're looking for a similar interfaces and applications that are on macosx.
[04:46] <pierreth> GNUStep does not give the Finder back
[04:46] <Ash-Fox> For that I am greatful :)
[04:46] <Zaire> the package I tried converting was vmware workstation and Im trying to remove it cause I think it broke vmware player
[04:46] <pierreth> But I like Konqueror
[04:47] <pierreth> I missing Camino
[04:47] <Zaire> blah konqueror is gross firefox is the best
[04:47] <nimnrod> where do i modify the bootloader list?
[04:47] <Ash-Fox> I like konqueror for everything that isn't webbrowsing at the moment.
[04:47] <intelikey> meh ff stinks  konq is good
[04:48] <Zaire> if its so good then why can't you go back using the backspace key -_-
[04:48] <intelikey> nimnrod /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:48] <nimnrod> intelikey: thanks
[04:48] <intelikey> Zaire you can
[04:49] <pierreth> I have a shell question
[04:49] <aurelien_> hi
[04:49] <Zaire> not from my experience
[04:49] <intelikey> Zaire it's configurable
[04:49] <pierreth> if I do echo *
[04:49] <intelikey> it does what you tell it to.
[04:49] <Jucato> pierreth: !ask
[04:49] <pierreth> is there a way to make echo called for each args?
[04:49] <Zaire> I still don't like it....the mmorpg game I play has a hide option and I keep getting knocked out in the open on konq but not on firefox
[04:50] <intelikey> Zaire your question might better have been 'why isn't it set that way by default?'
[04:50] <Ash-Fox> pierreth, I think it's called xargs
[04:50] <intelikey> and that i couldn't answer.
[04:50] <Jucato> Zaire: what mmorpg? (I'm interested...)
[04:50] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: no it is not
[04:50] <Zaire> Overlordslegacy.com
[04:51] <Jucato> Zaire: btw, have you tried changing the keyboard shortcuts for Back?
[04:51] <Ash-Fox> I recall using xargs to create a script that called a command for each argument
[04:51] <Zaire> cause it gives you the option to hide or not which if your big enough then you don't have to
[04:51] <Zaire> nope cause I just like firefox better personally
[04:51] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: How?
[04:51] <Jucato> ah ok
[04:51] <Jucato> Zaire: I'm a Konqueror lover, but lately, I'm having some quarrels with KHTML
[04:52] <pierreth> I like to have description and keywords for my urls
[04:52] <Zaire> I just can't get my server to display my index html file lol
[04:52] <pierreth> so prefer Firefox
[04:53] <Jucato> pierreth: description and keywords?
[04:53] <pierreth> But Camino was the best with the drag & drop of urls
[04:53] <pierreth> Jucato: ask the properties on an url with Firefox
[04:54] <ActiveX> how do i install activex plugin for mozilla?
[04:54] <Jucato> heh.. I don't know that...
[04:54] <ActiveX> i typed in activex in the repositories but it was a no show
[04:54] <Jucato> yikes!! ActiveX.....
[04:54] <Zaire> actually the message I get from my server when I try to access the httpd from firefox and other browsers says I don't have permission
[04:54] <ActiveX> ??
[04:54] <Jucato> no activex here, afaik
[04:54] <ActiveX> afaik?
[04:54] <Jucato> As Far As I Know
[04:54] <ActiveX> how do i play music on certain websites?
[04:55] <pierreth> Jucato: it is very to manage urls
[04:55] <miyako> I'm trying to set up a simple proxy on my machine that I can connect to from work, squid seems like massive overkill for what I want, since basically I just want something that will forward along http requests without bothering about any caching or filtering or anything.  Anyone have any ideas what packages I might look into?
[04:55] <ActiveX> and how come my amarok won't play mp3s?
[04:55] <Jucato> ActiveX: because you need the codec to play: libxine-extracodecs
[04:55] <Jucato> !mp3
[04:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <Jucato> most websites don't use ActiveX to play music. if they do, then... yeck...
[04:56] <pierreth> ActiveX: Amarok will ask you if you want to insall mp3 support
[04:56] <Jucato> pierreth: only with the later versions of Amarok
[04:56] <LeeJunFan> right - which didn't come with dapper.
[04:56] <pierreth> so upgrade
[04:57] <ActiveX> when will it ask me to install mp3 support pierreth?
[04:57] <Zaire> there now all of my aps have mp3 support lol
[04:57] <Jucato> intelikey: heh. you're not normal like the rest of us :P
[04:57] <Jucato> ActiveX: just install "libxine-extracodecs" and you'll be fine
[04:57] <intelikey> Jucato are the rest of you normal ????
[04:57] <intelikey> :)
[04:57] <Ash-Fox> pierreth, I'm sorry, the echo for each argument using: echo * would work. I was thinking of a more complicated method using xargs for some reason.
[04:57] <pierreth> ActiveX: When you have installed a set of plugins
[04:57] <Zaire> Im not normal Im canadian eh lol
[04:57] <Jucato> pierreth: a set?
[04:58] <ActiveX> Jucato: libxine-extracodecs doesn't show up in my repositories when I type it in.. ?
[04:58] <pierreth> Jucato: I don't know...
[04:58] <Zaire> no worries it works automatically once its install by apt
[04:58] <Jucato> ActiveX: you need to enable the "multiverse" repository
[04:58] <Jucato> !multiverse > ActiveX
[04:58] <pierreth> Make a search with Google and you will find
[04:58] <Zaire> oh and that to
[04:58] <Zaire> just enable all of your repositories
[04:58] <Jucato> well, maybe not all... :P
[04:59] <Zaire> I did lol
[04:59] <ActiveX> i think they are enabled..
[04:59] <Jucato> Zaire: heh.. even dapper-backports?
[04:59] <ActiveX> the ones that say multiverse are enabled
[04:59] <Zaire> yep...that bad?
[04:59] <Jucato> ActiveX: well, you have to add this extra one. follow that link that was PM'ed to you
[04:59] <Zaire> enable universe aswell
[04:59] <Jucato> Zaire: of course not
[04:59] <ActiveX> ok
[04:59] <Jucato> Zaire: if you need them, they're good
[04:59] <ActiveX> there are 5 links, which link?
[05:00] <Jucato> if you don't, they're added baggage
[05:00] <Jucato> !multiverse
[05:00] <ActiveX> 4 links
[05:00] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:00] <Jucato> ActiveX: ^^^^
[05:00] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: i will test it
[05:00] <intelikey> Jucato i've decided.  none of you are normal.  you're just insane in a different way than me.   i specialize  :)
[05:00] <Zaire> why is it https?
[05:01] <Jucato> Zaire: secure HTTP, afaik
[05:01] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: it does not work
[05:01] <LeeJunFan> so the NSA doesn't know you're looking for help with kubuntu.
[05:01] <Ash-Fox> pierreth, it does in bash.
[05:01] <Zaire> I know what https is just curious as to why its used for those sites thats all
[05:01] <Jucato> lol
[05:01] <nimnrod> why the highest resolution i have is 1024*768?
[05:01] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: echo is called one time with all the args
[05:01] <Jucato> Zaire: um.. for security purposes? :P
[05:02] <Zaire> -_-
[05:02] <intelikey> yes https == secure http (hyper text transport protocal)
[05:02] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: I am in bash
[05:02] <Ash-Fox> pierreth, uh... * should should execute a command per file in that directory
[05:02] <omar> hello I am trying to share a folder from a windows machine, and I am using this: sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar, it used to work in kubuntu but know that I have ubuntu doesn't work, I got this error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc;   missing codepage or other error;  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try;  dmesg | tail  or so
[05:02] <Jucato> i thought it was Transfer Protocol
[05:02] <Ash-Fox> pierreth, if you want to split up arguments, pipe it to xargs
[05:02] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: I have a test script to check that
[05:02] <intelikey> transfer==transport  meh  no matter
[05:03] <Zaire> yes hyper text transfer protocol secure by use of secure ssl
[05:03] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: xargs does the same
[05:03] <LeeJunFan> for x in * ; do xargs [blah blah]  ; done
[05:03] <Ash-Fox> Did you even set any paramters to it?
[05:03] <Jucato> Zaire: those pages are https because you can send info to those pages (editing/logging in/etc)
[05:03] <Zaire> ah ic
[05:03] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: I will pastbin OK?
[05:03] <Ash-Fox> pierreth, I'm going to bed since it's 5am.
[05:04] <omar> hello I am trying to share a folder from a windows machine, and I am using this: sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar, it used to work in kubuntu but know that I have ubuntu doesn't work, I got this error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc;   missing codepage or other error;  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try;  dmesg | tail  or so
[05:04] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: OK
[05:04] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: somewhere in Europe/Asia?
[05:04] <slash> hey anyone know how to install the gcc
[05:04] <Zaire> damn my torrent keeps dropping in and out :S
[05:04] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, Poland at the moment :P
[05:04] <Zaire> sudo apt-get install gcc
[05:04] <Jucato> slash: install "build-essential"
[05:04] <Jucato> Zaire: err...
[05:05] <intelikey> slash sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:05] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: heh I guessed it would be somewhere there :)
[05:05] <Vanique> czesc Ash-Fox
[05:05] <pierreth> Someone else for my script question?
[05:05] <Vanique> ;]
[05:05] <Zaire> or that works to lol
[05:05] <Ash-Fox> Czesc Vanique, nie jestem Polak ;)
[05:05] <omar> hello I am trying to share a folder from a windows machine, and I am using this: sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar, it used to work in kubuntu but know that I have ubuntu doesn't work, I got this error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc;   missing codepage or other error;  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try;  dmesg | tail  or so, please I need help
[05:05] <Zaire> and what Im trying to get 6766 snes roms lol
[05:05] <Vanique> a ktz wic jestes ?;]
[05:06] <pierreth> this chat is too full for me
[05:06] <Ash-Fox> omar, you need to install smbmount
[05:06] <ActiveX> Jucato: I enabled the multiverse for deb and deb-src, i tried finding libxine-extracodecs but it didn't have it.
[05:06] <omar> Ash-Fox: how to do that?, apt-get???
[05:06] <miyako> Zaire, I assume you own all 6766 snes games and are doing this purely for backup reasons?
[05:06] <Ash-Fox> omar, yeah, pretty much.
[05:06] <Zaire> why?
[05:07] <Jucato> ActiveX: did you click on "Fetch Updates" first before trying to look?
[05:07] <ActiveX> Jucato: yes
[05:07] <omar> Ash-Fox: I am getting this error: E: Couldn't find package smbmount
[05:07] <intelikey> Zaire cause i don't want to have to do the paper work on you.
[05:07] <Zaire> anyway is there a command to remove .deb's?
[05:07] <Jucato> ActiveX: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? please use pastebin
[05:07] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:07] <omar> Ash-Fox: I used apt-get install smbmount
[05:07] <Ash-Fox> omar... fine.. let me look in the repository
[05:07] <Jucato> Zaire: installed .debs?
[05:08] <intelikey> Zaire yes.  apt-get remove
[05:08] <Jucato> or that :P
[05:08] <Zaire> nah Im just getting the ones I do have actually which is more like 13 but a few are hard to find
[05:08] <omar> Ash-Fox: you mean the pastebin right?
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> omar: samba-client
[05:08] <slash> i get an error when i type sudo apt-get install build-essential into console
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> omar: or maybe smbfs
[05:08] <Ash-Fox> omar, apt-get isntall smbfs
[05:09] <Zaire> I have a few favs that I want to play
[05:09] <Ash-Fox> bah LeeJunFan beat me
[05:09] <ActiveX> Jucato: where is /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:09] <slash> where do u type apt-get?
[05:09] <Jucato> ActiveX: in /etc/apt/
[05:09] <LeeJunFan> :)
[05:09] <Zaire> lol console window lol
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> heh heh...
[05:09] <Jucato> slash: in Konsole
[05:09] <intelikey> slash konsole
[05:10] <one> hi guys, back to linux again finally, can't get adobe flash to install...
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> first sign of "its going to be a long night on irc" is when someone asks where to type a command in at. :)
[05:10] <omar> Ash-Fox: nop
[05:10] <StrudelNinja> Hey, I wanna do my ACT online prep but it wants me to have Windows or Mac. What's the easiest way to fix this? I don't know how to install firefox in wine (I tried but I don't think it worked)
[05:10] <intelikey> or in your irc client if you like...  /exec apt-cache search john
[05:10] <ActiveX> Jucato: where do i get the etc/apt i hve no idea
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> StrudelNinja,  why do you need to install firefox in wine?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> StrudelNinja,  install opera and have it identify as Internetexplorer is one way.
[05:11] <Zaire> one of my fav games for the snes is ultimate mortal combat 3 but my cousin somehow managed to erase the cartridge :S
[05:11] <StrudelNinja> I figured that would make it think I was on windows? I don't know
[05:11] <Jucato> ActiveX: it's a directory, you browse it in Konqueror
[05:11] <omar> Ash-Fox: http://pastebin.com/790373
[05:11] <Jucato> StrudelNinja: have you tried changing Konqueror's browser identification?
[05:11] <Ash-Fox> omar, apt-get install smbfs
[05:12] <Ash-Fox> Great.. pastebin is taking so long
[05:12] <intelikey> oh ActiveX be advised  / in linux  is the equivelent of  C:\  in M$
[05:12] <Ash-Fox> Well, it's not loading, g'night.
[05:12] <Jucato> intelikey: rawr.. forgot that one.. T_T
[05:12] <Zaire> one of these days Im gonna have to get on e-bay and find me a new snes since my cous also fried that :S
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> time for some Linux fundamental guides I think. :P
[05:13] <StrudelNinja> How would I do that?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> Zaire,  heh - i just play the games on the pc with the emulators
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> StrudelNinja,  do what?
[05:13] <omar> Ash-Fox: done
[05:13] <StrudelNinja> change Konqueror's browser identification
[05:13] <Jucato> StrudelNinja: go to the website, then in the Tools menu, choose Change Browser Identification
[05:13] <ActiveX> Jucato: i sent it
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> look in the menus/settings :)
[05:14] <omar> Ash-Fox: now?
[05:14] <StrudelNinja> aah, I found it
[05:14] <ActiveX> now what?
[05:14] <StrudelNinja> let me try
[05:14] <Ash-Fox> omar, now it should work
[05:14] <ActiveX> its under thebigeis
[05:14] <Jucato> ActiveX: what's the link?
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> i never noticed it in konqueror heh.
[05:14] <Zaire> I would like to but my google foo for finding rom sites is rusty and I have had this itch to play some of my old snes games and haven't been able to
[05:14] <kuzmaster> hey all
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Zaire,  torrents man... torrents.. *#*@*@ the rom sites. :P or use newsgroups
[05:14] <ActiveX> Jucato: oh hey.. it doesn't have multiverse next to them
[05:14] <kuzmaster> does anyone know of a good N64 emulator for kubuntu?
[05:15] <ActiveX> Jucato: i type it in next to universe and click enter, fetch updates, and that's it, right?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> all the rom sites make ya jump through so many lame hoops.. and then flood you with XXX popups.
[05:15] <Jucato> ActiveX: exactly :)
[05:15] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: not if you know reliable sites... :P
[05:15] <intelikey> kuzmaster i don't know how good.  but there is one in the repos.  apt-cache search emulator
[05:15] <Zaire> kind of a to bad cause the game companies could make a fortune if they brought a bunch of classics out of the works
[05:15] <ActiveX> Jucato: well that's what i did, and when i do fetch updates, multiverse is erased
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  torrents made my emulator needs much easier. :)
[05:16] <Jucato> ActiveX: you didn't click on Apply at the bottom after you made the changes
[05:16] <ActiveX> Jucato: ahh i see, that's helpful
[05:16] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: and KTorrent will probably make it easier because you can choose which of the ROMS you have
[05:16] <Zaire> I can see that cause like neo geo games can be over a grand sometimes
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  exactly! - unless the idiots package them in huge Rar packs.  Should I try Opera?
[05:17] <Zaire> which is the case with the 6700 roms I have to go through delete the unnecessary just to get the ones I have
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> well with the Nintindo Wii  - you are supposed to be able to Legally 'buy' the old nes/snes/n64 games and play them on it.
[05:17] <omar> Ash-Fox:  thanx so much, I really appreciate it
[05:17] <Zaire> sweet
[05:17] <Jucato> StrudelNinja: even after refreshing the page?
[05:17] <StrudelNinja> yeah
[05:18] <StrudelNinja> I even closed the window just to check
[05:18] <Zaire> I hear the new systems flagship game is duckhunt 2
[05:18] <Jucato> StrudelNinja: hm... it's one of those smarter sites then...
[05:18] <Jucato> Zaire: I don't think installing opera would make a difference
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Zaire,  ive only heard of the sports games  for it so far. and a new zelda game
[05:18] <Jucato> err... sorry Zaire
[05:18] <Zaire> np lol
[05:18] <Jucato> StrudelNinja: I don't think installing opera would make a difference
[05:18] <StrudelNinja> well this sucks
[05:19] <Jucato> StrudelNinja: you could install wine then ies4linux
[05:19] <Zaire> bah zelda has been over worked and the gamecube one was crap ......link looked like he was on drugs or something lol
[05:19] <travis> ok, i have a question folks, how do you turn off the sleep mode option on kubuntu? i was searching on the net without any happening and looked unders screen save options but tnothing still
[05:19] <one> CAN ANYBODY TELL ME the best flash player
[05:19] <StrudelNinja> ok, I'll try it
[05:19] <Jucato> travis: try System Settings > Display > Power Savings tab?
[05:19] <intelikey> Jucato i was past the age when nintendo was invented.
[05:20] <Jucato> intelikey: that says a lot :P
[05:20] <Zaire> lol
[05:20] <Zaire> classic nes I still have one and working lol
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[05:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:20] <intelikey> but i have played nes games some.
[05:20] <Makro___________> i `m getting disconnected from the net at random lapsus of time, if in wondows all is fine i have to asume that there is something wrong with my pppoe config, any suggestions?
[05:20] <Jucato> one: there's only one flash player available for Ubuntu, afaik. flashplugin-nonfree
[05:20] <travis> ah, thanks jucato :-) your a life saver
[05:21] <Jucato> btw, Nintendo was invented? :P
[05:21] <Jucato> travis: no problem
[05:21] <intelikey> Zaire yeah my daughter still has one.  i fixed from parts.
[05:21] <kuzmaster> Makro___________, get broadband. dial-up support is a bit funny in linux
[05:21] <LeeJunFan> kuzmaster: pppoe not ppp
[05:22] <intelikey> Jucato as much as the atuomobile was invented.
[05:22] <Jucato> heh
[05:22] <omar> I can't heard mp3 why??
[05:22] <brandon_> oh no
[05:22] <kuzmaster> LeeJunFan,.... ummm.... yes...... i knew that.................
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> pppoe is over ethernet - ie - not dialup.
[05:22] <Jucato> omar: you need to install the codec for it
[05:22] <travis> i am surprised with kubuntu.  With regular Ubuntu i had to install all these codecs to view avi files, but it appears kubuntu already installs those for you, cause it plays avis instantly
[05:22] <brandon_> I just downloaded and installed Flight Gear Flight Simulator but how do I open it to play it?
[05:23] <omar> jucato: how to do that?
[05:23] <kuzmaster> travis, have you installed vlc?
[05:23] <Jucato> omar: you need "libxine-extracodecs". you need to enable "multiverse" to get that
[05:23] <travis> no, but i use Kaffiene
[05:23] <Jucato> !multiverse
[05:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:23] <travis> apparantly it works
[05:23] <Jucato> omar: ^^^
[05:23] <kuzmaster> ohhhhh, you should use vls
[05:23] <kuzmaster> vlc**
[05:23] <kuzmaster> its the best
[05:23] <Jucato> different strokes for different brushes
[05:23] <brandon_> how do I play flightgear?
[05:23] <travis> is it?  It won't flicker will it?
[05:23] <omar> jucato: ok, let me try
[05:24] <travis> cause i have had that happen in previous versions
[05:24] <intelikey> it was parts that existed but had never arranged and coppuled togather before   same with the nes  it was a new thing.  but there wan not really one new invention in it.  just the redesign and formation of a new device as a whole.
[05:24] <kuzmaster> travis, no, it dosnt flicker for me, and it can play nearly any format/codec you will find
[05:24] <abattoir> Jucato: you mean different brushes for different strokes? :P
[05:24] <intelikey> never been ^
[05:24] <StrudelNinja> Ok this might be a stupid question, how do I run a shell script?
[05:24] <kuzmaster> travis, ive tried it on kubuntu, ubuntu, windows, and mac
[05:24] <Jucato> abattoir: go listen to your lecturer :P
[05:24] <kuzmaster> travis, and it works fine
[05:24] <Jucato> StrudelNinja: "sh <script>"
[05:24] <omar> jucato: I can't
[05:25] <brandon_> how do I run a game i installed through adept?
[05:25] <travis> yeah, well on Ubuntu it would flicker
[05:25] <StrudelNinja> right, I knew that
[05:25] <StrudelNinja> brain fart
[05:25] <travis> which is why i am hesitant on it
[05:25] <Jucato> omar: you can't what?
[05:25] <abattoir> Jucato: haha... so you are my lecturer now :)
[05:25] <Jucato> brandon_: checked the K Menu if it's there?
[05:25] <Hawkwind> brandon_: Type the name of it in a terminal
[05:25] <omar> jucato: I can't change to multiuniverse
[05:25] <brandon_> I tried that
[05:25] <intelikey> StrudelNinja   sh /path/to/script.sh
[05:25] <brandon_> it's not on k menu
[05:25] <Hawkwind> brandon_: Or use tab completion and do something like f(hit the tab)
[05:25] <Jucato> omar: not multiuniverse, "multiverse"
[05:25] <brandon_> andok
[05:25] <Jucato> !multiverse
[05:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:26] <omar> jucato: ok, but how
[05:26] <Jucato> omar: ^^^
[05:26] <Jucato> thank link
[05:27] <one> nonfree!
[05:27] <brandon_> I tried the complete thing
[05:27] <brandon_> it's not working
[05:27] <intelikey> hehhe i'm gonna change the way i gennerally answer that.   s*sh /path/to/script.sh*dash /path/to/script.sh*g   dash is on every *buntu system  but never gets used....
[05:27] <StrudelNinja> hey it works now
[05:27] <brandon_> and it didn't show up on the k menu
[05:27] <StrudelNinja> thanks
[05:27] <omar> jucato: should I go to the sources.lis??
[05:28] <Hawkwind> brandon_: Have you looked at their website at all to see if it says how to play the game ?
[05:28] <brandon_> there is no website :S
[05:28] <Hawkwind> brandon_: Yes there is
[05:28] <brandon_> where do I find it?
[05:28] <Hawkwind> brandon_: First hit on google:  http://www.flightgear.org/index.shtml
[05:28] <Jucato> omar: the guide gives instructions how to
[05:29] <brandon_> I'm stupid
[05:29] <abattoir> there is also a kde frontend to flightgear
[05:29] <intelikey> me too brandon_, but i don't bost about it  ;/
[05:29] <brandon_> >.<
[05:30] <brandon_> I am going to eat some tuna now
[05:30] <abattoir> brandon_: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=34410
[05:31] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Interesting.  I had never seen or known about that before
[05:32] <abattoir> Hawkwind: :)
[05:32] <Jucato> abattoir: has seen/known things we never had seen/known before :P
[05:32] <Jucato> err... "abattoir has seen/known things we never had seen/known before :P"
[05:32] <abattoir> heh, lol
[05:34] <Captain_Redbeard> Erf... are there any knot repositories?
[05:35] <Captain_Redbeard> Would like to do an upgrade to knot 3 in a neat way...
[05:35] <intelikey> knot ?
[05:35] <Hawkwind> Captain_Redbeard: Just use edgy in your sources.list where dapper would be
[05:36] <Hawkwind> Captain_Redbeard: Then just update your system doing a dist-upgrade and it will get you to the latest, which is equivalent to knot3
[05:36] <Captain_Redbeard> Hawkwind: Oh, I'm retarded... sorry, and thanks
[05:36] <abattoir> Captain_Redbeard: if you specifically want only the packages in knot3, then, add the CD as a repo
[05:36] <intelikey> Hawkwind the latest ?
[05:36] <Captain_Redbeard> Hawkwind: how to do a dist-upgrade then?
[05:36] <abattoir> intelikey: edgy
[05:36] <Hawkwind> intelikey: The latest is knot3 for Edgy
[05:36] <Hawkwind> Captain_Redbeard: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:36] <Hawkwind> Captain_Redbeard: Are you running Edgy at the moment ?
[05:36] <intelikey> never mind.   i don't feel like going into that.
[05:37] <abattoir> intelikey: the latest 'snapshots' are called knots, like they were flights, for dapper
[05:37] <Hawkwind> intelikey: What is there to go into ?
[05:37] <Max_-> hi all!! :D on the live CD right now !! :D :D :D  you know the password to su ????  cuz I can't do anything with that ubuntu user....
[05:37] <Hawkwind> intelikey: I'm sure you know that knot3 is the latest snapshot of Edgy
[05:37] <Captain_Redbeard> Hawkwind: nope... but that's what I want to
[05:37] <abattoir> Max_-: use sudo, and the command you need to execute
[05:37] <abattoir> !sudo
[05:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:37] <abattoir> Max_-: ^^^might help
[05:37] <brandon_> abattoir, so I just download that for the flight game?
[05:38] <travis> ok, this puzzles me, it was working a little while ago, now adept is saying "i can't install, uninstall, etc... because other programs are using it" how do i get it to work?
[05:38] <Hawkwind> Captain_Redbeard: You do realize it's not stable yet, right ?
[05:38] <travis> i tried restarting
[05:38] <Max_-> .... but sudo is long ... why can't we just log as root.. that would be so much easier...
[05:38] <Captain_Redbeard> Hawkwind: so change from "dapper" to "edgy" in the reps-list and do a dist-upgrade?
[05:38] <Max_-> i got things to do with my HDDs...
[05:38] <Hawkwind> Captain_Redbeard: Yep.  And prepare for things to be broken
[05:38] <Jucato> Captain_Redbeard: prepare yourself for some instability
[05:38] <abattoir> Max_-: ok, the 'sudo -i' would give you a 'root' prompt... that page has instructions
[05:38] <Captain_Redbeard> of course
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> so far ive not seen much broken yet. :P
[05:39] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: well, not in Knot 3, yet...
[05:39] <Max_-> abattoir: okay, thanks!
[05:39] <Captain_Redbeard> That's why I want it...
[05:39] <Jucato> or maybe, I haven't spent much time on Knot 3
[05:39] <Captain_Redbeard> not as a stable system but as a playground for testing basically
[05:39] <intelikey> travis xpstree see if anything is using dpkg
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> abattoir,  i never reboot. :P
[05:40] <travis> what is xpstree?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> actualy  i just upgraded today
[05:40] <abattoir> Dr_Willis: well, it doesnt help when Kwin crashes... you are forced to restart X :P
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Bah! be a real man! run... twm!
[05:40] <travis> is that a command to type in the terminal intelikey?
[05:41] <abattoir> Dr_Willis: heh :P
[05:41] <intelikey> travis yes.     note restarting a kde session by default restarts what ever was running...    just find what is using dpkg  and kill it.
[05:41] <Captain_Redbeard> How does everything run if things that are running are to be updated?
[05:41] <travis> k
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Captain_Redbeard: You restart them and they are at the new version :P
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Captain_Redbeard: If you're updating your entire version of the OS, then you'll have to atleast restart X and probably reboot for all the new stuff to take effect
[05:42] <Captain_Redbeard> Obviously :p I wonder how is it physically done?
[05:43] <Jucato> specially for new kernels
[05:43] <Jucato> which reminds me...
[05:43] <intelikey> Captain_Redbeard and yes it can cause errors, if a running app tries to read data from a newer version.. best to kill everything before dist-upgrade
[05:43] <Captain_Redbeard> hmm does that gimpy adept updater tool do the trick?
[05:43] <Hawkwind> Captain_Redbeard: I'd strongly suggest doing the update from CLI
[05:44] <Captain_Redbeard> aye aye
[05:45] <Captain_Redbeard> Hawkwind: but it's doable from inside X?
[05:45] <Hawkwind> Captain_Redbeard: Sure
[05:45] <Hawkwind> Probably best not to mention the command if people shouldn't use it
[05:46] <intelikey> i didn't say they shouldn't use it....   if they need it, they should.
[05:46] <intelikey> but the warning was meant to get the attention, that they should be aware of what it does.
[05:48] <travis> ok, i typed in xpstree in the terminal, nothing came up, i looked at processes and i am not sure what to look for in it, its still not letting me install or uninstall stuff, adept isn't i mean
[05:49] <intelikey> travis processes named dpkg, update, apt*, dselect.
[05:49] <travis> should i kill all that are named that in it?
[05:49] <intelikey> yes all but maybe update    if it's update* see what it is.
[05:50] <D4rkly> how can i probe my usb devices ?
[05:50] <intelikey> and if you kill   dselect   or  dpkg   you will probably be required to issue   dpkg --configure -a    to clean it up.
[05:51] <D4rkly> to see if 1 of them is working ?
[05:51] <travis> grrr, none of them show up, i really have no idea why its telling me its being used because it isn't
[05:51] <intelikey> D4rkly lsusb
[05:51] <intelikey> ?
[05:51] <D4rkly> cool
[05:52] <travis> i am using ksysgaurd to look at processes
[05:52] <intelikey> travis ok if you are sure that it's not in use.   remove the lock file
[05:52] <travis> whats the lock file?
[05:52] <intelikey> the file named "lock"
[05:52] <intelikey> in /var/lib/dpkg   probably
[05:52] <travis> heh, i am a newb with linux, where would i find it?
[05:52] <travis> ok
[05:53] <intelikey> need root !
[05:53] <Jucato> travis: you can't start Adept?
[05:53] <hobot> :)
[05:53] <hobot> :) hey guys
[05:53] <travis> should i do anything before remoiving it? cause i don't want my ssytem to crash suddenly
[05:54] <travis> jucato, thats right its saying database locked
[05:54] <travis> pretty much
[05:54] <intelikey> Jucato if i understood correctly.  no.  error message  package manager in use
[05:54] <Jucato> travis: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:54] <D4rkly> i think my ati usb remote is dead it doesnt appear in lsusb ?
[05:55] <travis> well, that did a whole bunch of text that i am not sure about
[05:55] <intelikey> any "error"  in it    or "E"
[05:56] <hobot> hey guys I was all ready to ask a question but then I rtfm and it answered it how about them apples
[05:56] <travis> yeah there was an error, it seems
[05:56] <Jucato> travis: what it basically does is try to continue where a package manager left off, because of hanging, stalling, or some other error
[05:56] <travis> with flashplugin-nonfree
[05:56] <travis> heh, interesting
[05:56] <dek> anybody here uses LaTeX ?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> dek,  years ago.
[05:57] <intelikey> hmmm that shouldn't have kept adept from running
[05:57] <dek> have you used Pstricks?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Nope.
[05:57] <dek> it doesn't seem to recognize the commands :-/
[05:57] <dek> although I added the packages
[05:57] <travis> yeah, well i just tried adept again intelikey and now its letting me install
[05:57] <dek> I always get Undefined control sequence. \pscurve, etc
[05:57] <travis> so maybe i just closed out of it by accident and forgot to let it do the installs before hand?
[05:57] <Jucato> travis: probably :P
[05:58] <Jucato> travis: try to remember that command whenever your database gets locked
[05:58] <travis> i will, i am probably gonna make a text file of important commands so that i never forget them
[05:58] <intelikey> ok i'll go back and revisit dpkg    cause i don't think that was a 'lock' issue after all
[05:58] <hobot> hey guys where is this reset X server button it tells me about :)?
[05:59] <Jucato> hobot: you can just press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace BUT save anything that needs saving first
[05:59] <hobot> yes of course
[05:59] <hobot> here is a question
[05:59] <hobot> if I ruined my xorg.conf
[05:59] <hobot> I have a backup
[05:59] <intelikey> (note to travis) text files on a system that gets reloaded don't do one bit of good....   been there.
[05:59] <omar> jucato: I got themultiverse, now?, I want to get my mp3
[05:59] <hobot> can I still just ctrol alt f1
[05:59] <hobot> ctrl alt f1
[05:59] <D4rkly> im trying to get my ati usb remote working ? if it doesnt appear in lsusb is it dead ??
[05:59] <hobot> reload the backup
[06:00] <hobot> and then restart
[06:00] <Jucato> hobot: you can even do it in Konsole. sudo cp stuff
[06:00] <Jucato> omar: now try looking for "libxine-extracodecs" again
[06:00] <hobot> :)
[06:00] <travis> heh ok intelikey
[06:00] <Jucato> hobot: just restart X after
[06:00] <hobot> also this is amazing for newbs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:00] <hobot> I <3 it
[06:02] <hobot> YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
[06:02] <hobot> YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES IT WORKS MY PRECIOUS
[06:03] <Jucato> um.. someone is asking " if dvd protection is universal or just win-constraint"?
[06:03] <travis> windows constraint?
[06:03] <travis> dvd protection just sucks period
[06:03] <travis> i have had to deal with a lot of that
[06:03] <Jucato> but that doesn't really answer the question right? :P
[06:04] <travis> meh, its not just windows, it depends on the decryptor that the person is using
[06:04] <travis> and also depends on how good of a dvd copyright protection it is
[06:04] <Jucato> ah
[06:04] <travis> if its fairly recent, mostlikly you won't be able to rip it, thats assuming thats what the person wants
[06:05] <Jucato> ooh thanks for the info :)
[06:06] <travis> but i am not sure if thats what they are asking about, if its just copyright protection in general, no because you have region locks on DVDs
[06:06] <intelikey> hmmm dpkg --configure is a powerful command.  it will redo a lock file that is in use.    learn something new every day
[06:06] <travis> heh really?
[06:07] <travis> i am starting to really enjoy kubuntu and the linux community
[06:07] <travis> even though i am a newb
[06:08] <travis> WHOA!?! i just found a STREAM RIPPER for downloading online streams!
[06:08] <travis> for linux, thats awesome!
[06:09] <Captain_Redbeard> travis: why so suprised?
[06:09] <fildo> sensors for cpu temp ? what program wouldi  need to install ?
[06:09] <intelikey> yeah why so suprised ?    if it can be done linux can do it.    even crash.
[06:10] <travis> haha, yeah, but i am surprised cause windows doesn't have a program out there that can download streams
[06:10] <Jucato> heh
[06:10] <Captain_Redbeard> travis: win32 have got the strength of money but we've got the strength of commitment and numbers
[06:10] <Captain_Redbeard> travis: Linux is done "by users for users" :)
[06:11] <travis> heh, yes, i can tell
[06:11] <Jucato> hm.. before it was "by geeks, for geeks"
[06:11] <Jucato> :P
[06:11] <Captain_Redbeard> Jucato: still is but "users" is probably a more neutral word :)
[06:11] <travis> i am somewhat a geek, but i don't like computer programming, i get terrible headaches looking at codes for long periods of times
[06:11] <travis> i am more of a pirater i guess
[06:11] <intelikey> fildo apt-cache search sensor
[06:12] <travis> i say "if i have the money i will buy it, otherwise i am a poor college student'
[06:12] <travis> thats my excuse
[06:12] <Hawkwind> fildo: gkrellm can monitor the temps without installing lmsensors since the 2.6 kernel comes default with that stuff.
[06:13] <Hawkwind> fildo: If you want to use something different, then you might have to install lmsensors, just all depends
[06:13] <Jucato> Hawkwind: does the mobo need to support those sensors for gkrellm to work? I'm not sure mine has that feature...
[06:14] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yes, your BIOS has to support it.  If your BIOS lists the temps then chances are gkrellm will work for you
[06:14] <Jucato> Hawkwind: that's cool. never got lmsensors to work for me
[06:15] <intelikey> Hawkwind so is gkrellm/linux_kernel using the BIOS to access the sensors ?
[06:15] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Yes
[06:16] <travis> ok guys, another question, i like the mac osx setup and have a lot of it configured except for a good dock, kxdocker seems to be coming up with errors, anyone know of a better dock?
[06:16] <Jucato> and what is lmsensors using?
[06:16] <intelikey> why would linux depend on bios ?
[06:16] <Hawkwind> Jucato: lmsensors loads a lot of i2c modules to work properly
[06:16] <Jucato> ah
[06:16] <intelikey> it doesn't depend on bios for anything else does it ?
[06:16] <jpiccolo_> anyone know of a good tutorial for apache?
[06:16] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Not that I know of.  Just for sensor stuff.  Hence why you don't need lmsensors
[06:17] <Jucato> !repos > Jucato
[06:17] <Hawkwind> jpiccolo_: apache.org ?
[06:17] <jpiccolo_> they are alittle to techinical for me
[06:17] <Hawkwind> jpiccolo_: tldp.org ?
[06:18] <intelikey> but that leaves me wondering about the kernel ?    have they gotten lazy and stopped writing "real code" and started depending on bios and other sources to be the actual code, and just call them from the kernel ?
[06:18] <Hawkwind> !repos > Hawkwind
[06:18] <intelikey> that doesn't at all sound like linux.
[06:19] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Not even remotely close.  Maybe you should read up on it before you go off and start bashing about them not writing 'real code' since you seem to not know what you're talking about
[06:19] <intelikey> Hawkwind seem to....   hmmm  what ever.
[06:20] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Point is, kernel developers seem to be writing 'real code' as it is.  If you feel it's inadequate, maybe you should offer your 'expertise' coding skills
[06:21] <intelikey> rant buba
[06:22] <Hawkwind> buba ?
[06:23] <Captain_Redbeard> uh... what's dpkg's error code 1 signaling for?
[06:24] <fildo> Hawkwind: gkrellm is good
[06:24] <fildo> Hawkwind: but has no temp sesor
[06:24] <Hawkwind> fildo: No temp sensor for what ?
[06:24] <fildo> cpu
[06:25] <fildo> or system in general
[06:25] <fildo> im after something that can monitor it, cause this wifi gets hot as
[06:25] <Hawkwind> What version of gkrellm you using ?
[06:25] <cpk2> fildo: there is a temp plugin i thought...
[06:25] <Hawkwind> I have my gkrellm monitoring my harddrives, my fans, and my CPU temp
[06:26] <cpk2> aptitude search gkrellm you will get lots of stuff
[06:26] <fildo> ok
[06:26] <fildo> cheers
[06:38] <Captain_Redbeard> hmm seems to work...
[06:39] <Captain_Redbeard> only thing that is retarded is the bootup splashscreen
[06:44] <jpiccolo_> can anyone get jpiccolo.isa-geek.com
[06:44] <travis> got a question, ok, i unzipped the file, the did ./configure
[06:44] <travis> and then it comes up  "checking for X... configure:  can't find x includes
[06:44] <travis> and it goes on and on
[06:44] <travis> what do i need ofr it to not say that
[06:45] <cameron_> SUCCESS!
[06:46] <cameron_> I have just installed a Parallel port scanner into Kubuntu....  all by myself!
[06:46] <cameron_> I know, lame...
[06:47] <cameron_> now I just have to figure out how to get my webcam working...
 I have just installed a Parallel port scanner into Kubuntu ---> i have a Primax Colorado 600p that is not working, can you give me a hint ?
[06:50] <cameron_> ubuntu: looks like all scanners in ubuntu or kubuntu use the sane backend...  basically, you need to install the sane library and backend (libsane, sane-utils), and then make sure your scanner is enabled...
[06:52] <cameron_> The only thing you may need to do additional to that is download the linux drivers for you scanner, but I just checked the support page, and it looks like sane doesn't support the Primax scanners...
[06:56] <travis> hmmm, i did the ./configure successfully, but now when typing make, it says bash: make: not command
[06:56] <travis> or something like that
[06:56] <dennister> hi all
[06:56] <D4rkly_> im trying to get my ati usb remote working ? if it doesnt appear in lsusb is it dead ??
[06:57] <intelikey> travis you installed build-essential ?
[06:57] <travis> intelikey: build essentiaL?
[06:57] <intelikey> !b-e
[06:57] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:57] <cameron_> travis: I ran into that too.  make doesn't come pre-installed with ubuntu.  you'll find it in adept
[06:57] <travis> oooh ok
[06:58] <dennister> anyone help me figure out why my bsh isn't behaving itself?
[06:58] <travis> ha, i am retarded, i just goodled the problem
[06:58] <travis> googled
[06:58] <cameron_> hehe
[06:58] <LKC> my adept wont fetch upgrades
[06:58] <Zvezdichko> LKC, try manually - apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[07:02] <dennister> i tried to completely remove the major elements of my lamp through synaptic; the teminal (while uninstall was going on) said it couldn't remove some directories because they weren't empty; I've been trying to remove them manually now, but the slashes for the paths are disappearing
[07:03] <LKC> it says there are 0 upgrades but i have not upgraded for since install 2 months ago
[07:03] <dennister> nor can i edit a file as root with kwrite or kate from the konsole...get error messages
[07:03] <Ekkostorm> what error messages?
[07:04] <dennister> bad device 169
[07:04] <Jucato> LKC: you probably don't have dapper-security or dapper-updates enabled
[07:04] <LKC> how can i enable?
[07:04] <Ekkostorm> dennister: sorry, I've never seen that one before...
[07:04] <Jucato> !repos
[07:04] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:04] <Jucato> LKC: ^^^
[07:04] <Jucato> LKC: just apply those steps for the lines with "dapper-security" and "dapper-updates"
[07:05] <dennister> also can't initiailize kdeinit, kded: cannot connect to x server :0.0, dcop aborting...to kded
[07:05] <Ekkostorm> btw... has anyone seen a good image slicing program?
[07:05] <dennister> Ekkostorm: tis ok
[07:05] <dennister> just bugging me
[07:05] <Papandapulo> !help
[07:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:05] <Zvezdichko> dennister, it's because you're not running KDE as root ;)
[07:05] <D4rkly_> ati_remote module
[07:05] <LKC> did somthing like that on another system yesterday but this system wont let me edit it, i think adept wont recognise my internet connection, how do i get it to do that?
[07:06] <D4rkly_> if i dont have the ati_remote module loaded in the kernel will it still appear under lsusb ?
[07:06] <dennister> Zvezdichko: but I am running it as root
[07:06] <Zvezdichko> oh... that's strange then...
[07:07] <Ekkostorm> My question would be why is it having a hard time with x server
[07:07] <dennister> yes, and  why is a socket pointing to a tmp directory
[07:07] <Zaire> anyone in here know of any good beginners guides to shell scripting?
[07:08] <intelikey> !cli
[07:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:08] <Zaire> thanks .....I thought I would get familiar with it since Im gonna be taking a course
[07:08] <Ekkostorm> k... is intelikey a bot?
[07:08] <dennister> my bsh doesn't even recognize the 'cd' command, lol
[07:08] <Jucato> lol
[07:08] <Jucato> Ekkostorm: ubotu is the bot
[07:09] <intelikey> !ubotu
[07:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:09] <dennister> that's funny,
[07:09] <Zvezdichko> dennister ... that's really, really strange
[07:09] <dennister> the bot that is
[07:09] <intelikey> dennister bash does 'cd'
[07:09] <Ekkostorm> and intelikey is a kindly irc dweller of great knowledge that knows just what to ask ubotu at the right time...
[07:09] <Ekkostorm> ?
[07:10] <dennister> it's supposed to do cd, but it doesn't
[07:10] <intelikey> dennister cd /
[07:10] <intelikey> ls
[07:10] <intelikey> cd ;ls
[07:10] <Ekkostorm> have you done a power cycle dennister?
[07:10] <josef> hai jucato
[07:10] <Jucato> hi josef
[07:11] <jpiccolo_> !selinux
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <dennister> omg; NOW it's doing both cd and ls, whereas it didn't before...what's a power cycle?
[07:11] <Ekkostorm> lol...
[07:11] <dennister> wierd
[07:11] <intelikey> !info selinux
[07:11] <ubotu> Package selinux does not exist in any distro I know
[07:11] <Ekkostorm> a power cycle involves applying the boots of re to your computer by yanking the cord of power...
[07:12] <josef> I have a tv tuner installed its a pci but how do i tell kubuntu that it has a tv tuner
[07:12] <Ekkostorm> Ya, I'm a geek...
[07:12] <intelikey> selinux-doc - documentation for Security-Enhanced Linux
[07:12] <intelikey> selinux-utils - SELinux utility programs
[07:12] <Zaire> you have to be a geek to use linux lol
[07:12] <dennister> haha, i did reboot
[07:12] <josef> jucato I have a tv tuner installed its a pci but how do i tell kubuntu that it has a tv tuner
[07:12] <Zvezdichko> are there anny errors during load?
[07:12] <Jucato> josef: sorry, I don't know that... :(
[07:12] <dennister> nope, not if ur talkign to me
[07:12] <LKC> how can i get my adept to fetch upgrades, i tried manully and failed, tried using adept and when i go to manage repos it says it failed to varify all of them but im connected to the internet, whats happening? :(
[07:12] <Ekkostorm> Well, I'm hooked... Linux officially ROCKS!
[07:13] <dennister> i like it, but ...
[07:13] <josef> Ok never mind you help me already allot thanks my friend
[07:13] <josef> bye jucato
[07:13] <intelikey> LKC sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:13] <Zvezdichko> yes I was talking to you. So, to sum up. you load KDE as root and you can't use Kate and Kwrite, right?
[07:14] <Zaire> you shouldn't be able to load as root unless in cli :S
[07:14] <LKC> found the problem i forgot to enable
[07:14] <intelikey> safe mode Zaire
[07:15] <Zaire> ah ic there is that lol
[07:15] <intelikey> failsafe or what ever grub calls is
[07:15] <Zvezdichko> Zaire, it should... I'm a former slackware user, it loads with startx
[07:15] <Jucato> GRUB calls it "recovery mode"
[07:15] <intelikey> ah recovery mode
[07:15] <Ekkostorm> LKC: here's a thought.  Adept is a package right?  What would happen if you used apt-get to uninstall then reinstall adept?
[07:15] <Zaire> yea the only time ive needed root is when I was configuring my surgemail server
[07:15] <Ekkostorm> k... I'm slow...
[07:16] <intelikey> !sudo
[07:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:16] <Zvezdichko> anyway, I never run KDE as root. If I want to edit files - pico, emacs... there are so many console editors
[07:16] <Zaire> and apparently root couldn't access some of the files for surge either oddly enough lol
[07:16] <LKC> is there aany benifit to cloning my repositories and haveing 1 as main and 1 as multiverse?
[07:17] <Ekkostorm> Anyway, I'm out.  I'll be back later with more questions.
[07:17] <Ekkostorm> Thanks for the help all
[07:17] <dennister> bye ekko
[07:18] <Zvezdichko> lol, there's a Freecraft for Ubuntu :P apt-get install freecraft
[07:18] <intelikey> !repos > LKC
[07:19] <Homer> does freecraft come with art?
[07:19] <dennister> k, was finally able to delete one file, only by going to cd \, then cd etc, then cd \apache2...each with a separate command
[07:20] <intelikey> there is no cd \
[07:20] <intelikey> dennister \ == the escapt char
[07:20] <intelikey> this is not M$
[07:20] <Zvezdichko> Homer, with what?
[07:20] <dennister> what about the escape character?
[07:21] <intelikey> dennister the escapr char tells the shell to ignore the next char   i.e.   echo $HOME   will show your home dir  but   echo \$HOME  will show $HOME
[07:22] <Zvezdichko> and dennister, why are you running cd like that?
[07:22] <intelikey> you use the escape char to send special chars to other apps.
[07:22] <dennister> because cd doesn't always want to work properly
[07:22] <dennister> do u think i like all those cd commands? lol
[07:23] <intelikey> Zvezdichko cause he's learing    but having to un-learn M$ so he can learn linux.
[07:23] <dennister> now when i use cd, it dropts me to a > prompt
[07:23] <intelikey> where are you using cd ?
[07:23] <Jucato> a ">" prompt...
[07:24] <dennister> I'm trying to navigate to certain files i'm trying to remove manually, as root
[07:24] <Zvezdichko> svetlio@zvezdichko:~$ cd .cedega/
[07:24] <Zvezdichko> svetlio@zvezdichko:~/.cedega$
[07:24] <Jucato> C:\>
[07:24] <Zvezdichko> don't have problems like that
[07:24] <dennister> i'd love to get rid of mine...like I said at the beginning, bsh is NOT behaving itself
[07:24] <dennister> ls
[07:25] <dennister> oops
[07:25] <Zvezdichko> bash should recognise each command if it's in the paths /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[07:25] <intelikey> Zvezdichko assumes default path
[07:25] <BigEis> how come when i try and compile code on xemacs wih g++ as part of my make, kubunu doesn't recognize it?
[07:26] <intelikey> BigEis cause you haven't installed gcc ?
[07:26] <intelikey> !b-e
[07:26] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:27] <intelikey> read that ^ BigEis
[07:27] <Zvezdichko> intelikey, why is this, what are you installing in /use/local/special
[07:27] <BigEis> ok and does kopete have sound alerts for incoming/outgoing IMs?
[07:28] <intelikey> system wide scripts
[07:28] <Zvezdichko> dennister, don't give up lad, Linux is hard, but not impossible. yesterday I was trying to get my movies working
[07:30] <Jucato> BigEis: yes. Settings > Configure Notifications
[07:31] <dennister> zvez, i got my movies working awhile ago...i just tried to follow the paths u typed, and the \usr\local\sbin directory is empty...and what's this thing about a ':' after some directories' names?
[07:31] <Ryan_> i was messing around with my screen resolution and i ended up changing to to something my screen cant recognize and it didnt automaticly change back like usual so i wated a while anstill nothing, i restarted and nothing after the grub. is there anyway to change te setting from a live cd
[07:31] <BigEis> if your kubuntu freezes or stop responding, how do you remedy that?
[07:31] <intelikey> Zvezdichko order of search in the path verable is important if you use warpers with the same name as common apps
[07:32] <Zvezdichko> that's interesting
[07:32] <intelikey> dennister how many times i got to tell you?  it's not \   it's  /
[07:33] <Zvezdichko> I remember when I firs installed linux, I was completely unfamiliar with the directory structure
[07:33] <Jucato> dennister: "\" is for MS-DOS/Windows, "/" is for Linux/BSD/UNIX
[07:33] <intelikey> there is no \usr\local\sbin   that would be  "srocalbin"   to the shell.   so if that exists you made it.
[07:33] <dennister> lol...and i never make that mistake in the shell itself...just here
[07:34] <Zaire> damn can't get xgl to work
[07:34] <Zvezdichko> but anyway, there shouldn't be anything in /usr/local/bin
[07:34] <Zvezdichko> I always never install apps there except some games
[07:34] <Zvezdichko> *I never
[07:34] <Zaire> so once you apt-get xgl what then?
[07:34] <intelikey> and by all means /usr/local/sbin  does indeed exist on your system.
[07:35] <BigEis> Anyone know wha to do when your comp freezes or stops responding?
[07:35] <dennister> intellikey: it exists, but it's empty of files or any content
[07:35] <Zaire> reset it lol
[07:35] <Jucato> BigEis: if you can still use the keyboard "Ctrl+Alt+Backspace"
[07:35] <Zvezdichko> dennister, and that's normal ;)
[07:35] <intelikey> dennister not likely.
[07:35] <BigEis> and what will thatdo jucato?
[07:35] <Jucato> BigEis: or if you know which app is the culprit, you can Ctrl+Alt+F1 and killall the app
[07:35] <intelikey> oh local
[07:35] <Zaire> or ctrl+al+F1
[07:35] <intelikey> yeah
[07:35] <Jucato> BigEis: it resets/restarts X
[07:36] <intelikey> nm the not likely.
[07:36] <Zaire> still anyone know what to do with xgl once you apt it?
[07:36] <dennister> i'm confused, are \etc\local\bin and the sbin one supposed to be empty, or not?
[07:36] <BigEis> how much RAM does everyone have to run kubuntu?
[07:36] <intelikey> was thinking usr/sbin      i don't know why....
[07:36] <Zvezdichko> dennister, yes, they are
[07:36] <insanekane> BigEis: i have 256 DDR
[07:36] <dennister> 2 different pps, 2 contradictory answers
[07:36] <dennister> k
[07:36] <Zaire> I have 1gb DDR2 4200
[07:37] <BigEis> insanekane that run pretty quick?
[07:37] <intelikey> error \etc\local\bin  does not exist
[07:37] <insanekane> BigEis: very :)
[07:37] <dennister> haha, now intellikey has done the dos/windows forward slash here
[07:37] <Zaire> I also have a 3800+ dualcore lol
[07:37] <Jucato> dennister: don't you mean /usr/local ?
[07:37] <Zvezdichko> because Windows is just a Dos shell
[07:37] <Zvezdichko> :)
[07:37] <intelikey> dennister i quoted you
 i'm confused, are \etc\local\bin and the sbin ...   ^
[07:38] <dennister> well, ok,,wasn't sure
[07:38] <BigEis> insanekane i have 512mb but not sure if ddr or not, probably not, how could i tell?
[07:38] <BigEis> it runs quick,but freezes up sometimes
[07:38] <dennister> it seems i'm more ditzy tonight than usual
[07:38] <Zaire> Im stumped there lol
[07:38] <Jucato> dennister: /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin wound only have contents depending on whether you have compiled stuff and directed it to install in /usr/local/
[07:38] <insanekane> BigEis: it shows on your POST screen
[07:38] <Zvezdichko> I have 192 MB SD Ram, and Kubuntu is on the fly
[07:38] <Zvezdichko> :)
[07:38] <BigEis> what is the kubuntu equivlent of task manager on windows?
[07:38] <insanekane> BigEis: Ctrl+Esc
[07:38] <Jucato> BigEis: Ctrl+Esc
[07:39] <BigEis> zvesdichiko you disable or remove any programs?
[07:39] <intelikey> dennister some times its better to just turn the box off and go out side...
[07:39] <Zvezdichko> BigEis, no
[07:39] <Zaire> kmenu system and ksysguard
[07:39] <Zvezdichko> BigEis, task manager? I don't need a task manager
[07:39] <Zvezdichko> I just type
[07:39] <Zvezdichko> ps aux
[07:39] <Zvezdichko> and I got all processes running
[07:40] <Zvezdichko> if there's irresponsible program, kill uid
[07:40] <Zaire> brb lol
[07:40] <dennister> anyway, what's with this: i type in 'cd \ <enter>" and i get a new line with just a '>'
[07:41] <insanekane> dennister: \ is not Linux/UNIX
[07:41] <intelikey>  \
[07:41] <Zaire> nope xgl still not working
[07:41] <insanekane> dennister: \ is the start of an escape sequence
[07:41] <Jucato> dennister: because you are typing "\"
[07:41] <Jucato> dennister: try typing cd ' and you'll get the same ">"
[07:41] <intelikey> dennister it's not \  it's  /  that you want.
[07:42] <intelikey> Jucato no i don't think so.
[07:42] <Zvezdichko> but I can make bash looking that way : C:\>
[07:42] <Jucato> intelikey: try it
[07:42] <Zvezdichko> :)
[07:42] <intelikey> i have.
[07:42] <Jucato> then why does it happen to me?
[07:42] <dennister> maybe I should quit for the night...but i'm not tired
[07:42] <Zvezdichko> dennister, night? lol... where are you from
[07:42] <Zvezdichko> :)
[07:43] <intelikey> Jucato if you type blah \    and hit the enter you get a new line with only  >_     waiting for you to finish the command
[07:43] <Zaire> if a problem with ram one thing I would ask is if you are running 2 256 chips that are diff speeds like a pc3100 and a 2700
[07:43] <Jucato> intelikey: and if you type in cd ' <--- single quote
[07:43] <intelikey> Jucato it escapes the carrage return
[07:43] <dennister> i'm from toronto, and it's 1:43 am
[07:43] <intelikey> Jucato yeah
[07:43] <dennister> u?
[07:43] <intelikey> oh did you add  a single quote mark
[07:43] <Zvezdichko> dennister, Bulgaria, Pleven - GMT+3 or 08:43 am ;)
[07:43] <intelikey> i missed it sorry
[07:44] <Jucato> hmph :P
[07:44] <dennister> yeah,,,with the zvev...in the nic, I'm not surprised
[07:44] <intelikey> Jucato i missread your post.   thought the single quote went with the ending statement       my bad.
[07:45] <Zvezdichko> it means a star
[07:45] <Zvezdichko> :)
[07:45] <Zvezdichko> anybody using shell different than bash?
[07:45] <dennister> heheheh...love it
[07:45] <Jucato> intelikey: heh no worries
[07:45] <intelikey> but even at that they are not the same.
[07:45] <dennister> used to know tons of eastern europeans when I was an it headhunter
[07:46] <dennister> all the zzzzzzzzzz's
[07:46] <intelikey> same result for the first line.  but  cd '     will wait for the closing '   while  cd \   will exec on the next return key.
[07:46] <Jucato> intelikey: well, they're both escape characters aren't they? :)
[07:46] <intelikey> no one is a quote the other escapes
[07:47] <intelikey> jucato    echo '$PATH   !=   echo \$PATH
[07:47] <Zaire> wow lol I love my net connection it downloaded gnome in about 8 min lol
[07:47] <Jucato> intelikey: ok ok :)
[07:48] <Zvezdichko> Zaire, heh I don't like gnome
[07:48] <Zvezdichko> :)
[07:49] <intelikey> i like it about that much too
[07:49] <Jucato> hm... I like GNOME...
[07:49] <Jucato> but not as much as KDE
[07:49] <dennister> well, it seems my probs with bsh have disappeared...fell really stupid...but i guess i had to make the wrong-direction-slash mmistake once...being an old dos user
[07:50] <dennister> i just reallly didn't think i had
[07:50] <Zaire> I don't like gnome either Im just using it to test out xgl lol
[07:50] <Zvezdichko> that's why we have Ubuntu and Kubuntu, and Xubuntu ...
[07:50] <Zvezdichko> years ago QTs were not GPL and that's why Debian didn't support KDE
[07:50] <Jucato> around 1998-2000 iirc
[07:50] <Zaire> speaking of which brb lol
[07:50] <dennister> i must say, i thought i liked gnome at first, but i like kde better now
[07:51] <dennister> even though i haven't taken a serious stab at upgrading from 3.5.2 to the 3.5.4 yet
[07:51] <Zvezdichko> iiirc... what was that?
[07:51] <Jucato> iirc = if I remember/recall correctly
[07:52] <octan> yes
[07:52] <dennister> liir is for remotes
[07:52] <dennister> sorry liirc
[07:52] <Zvezdichko> dennister, I haven't upgraded, too. waiting for the first KDE 4 beta
[07:52] <Jucato> ah
[07:53] <Zvezdichko> Jucato, yes... but in 2000 I think Gnome was better than KDE
[07:53] <intelikey> twm
[07:54] <Jucato> :)
[07:54] <intelikey> weighs next to nothing.  :)
[07:54] <intelikey> works
[07:54] <intelikey> is fast
[07:54] <Zvezdichko> intelikey, I can start the X server without a window manager. I have done this before and it's working
[07:55] <intelikey> me too  but you can't do anything unless you attach something to it
[07:55] <Zvezdichko> I just have to include a line in the .xinitrc to launch xterm after startup
[07:56] <intelikey> X & sleep 12 ;xterm --display :0
[07:56] <intelikey> no line needed
[07:56] <Zvezdichko> yes, that's right
[07:56] <Zaire> damn wth does it take to get xgl working
[07:56] <Zvezdichko> as for the old window managers good old fvwm95... what a nostalgy
[07:56] <intelikey> !glx
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <intelikey> !nv
[07:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:57] <Zaire> !xgl
[07:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:57] <Zvezdichko> !aptitude
[07:57] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[07:58] <Zaire> ah screw it I don't feel like messing with the extra crap at the moment lol
[07:58] <dennister> well, since I can continue deleting now, and then reinstall my lamp...cya folks
[07:58] <dennister> thnks!
[07:59] <Zvezdichko> OK, good luclk
[07:59] <Zvezdichko> :)
[08:01] <clojster> hi, how can I simply hide some menu items in Kmenu?
[08:02] <intelikey> kmenueditor
[08:02] <intelikey> kmenuedit  that is
[08:03] <Jucato> (or right-click on the K Menu and select Menu Editor...)
[08:03] <clojster> well... i don't see the otion to hide menuitem in kmenuedit
[08:05] <clojster> *option
[08:06] <Ryan_> where should my desktop config file be
[08:06] <intelikey> ~/.kde/ someplace
[08:09] <Zvezdichko> hey, houston, we've had a problem here
[08:10] <intelikey> who called huston ?
[08:10] <Zvezdichko> Atlantis space shuttle ;)
[08:10] <Zvezdichko> we can't install flash player for Konqueror
[08:10] <Zvezdichko> :0
[08:10] <intelikey> not even
[08:11] <Jucato> !flashplugin-nonfree
[08:11] <intelikey> !flash
[08:11] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:11] <LKC> if i wanted to make my comp in to a big juke box for my brother to play his music in his room what would be the best program to use?
[08:11] <Zvezdichko> lol, I hope this will work with conqueror
[08:12] <clojster> so is there any way to actually hide menuitem and not to delete it?
[08:12] <intelikey> LKC sox
[08:12] <kuto> how do you open a new tab for chat connection using konversation?
[08:12] <Jucato> Zvezdichko: it will
[08:12] <clojster> something like checkbox "hide/show"
[08:12] <Jucato> kuto: different server?
[08:12] <intelikey> LKC sox is the best.
[08:12] <LKC> how do i get my writing red?
[08:12] <kuto> Jucato: yes
[08:12] <intelikey> no question the very best, is sox
[08:12] <Jucato> kuto: just connect to that other server and it will have it's own tab
[08:12] <Homer> I kinda like kvirc
[08:13] <Jucato> kuto: for example, freenode will have its own tab, DALnet will have its own, etc.
[08:13] <Zvezdichko> Xchat has multitabbing
[08:13] <Zvezdichko> :0
[08:13] <intelikey> sox is IT!
[08:13] <Zvezdichko> apt-get install xchat
[08:13] <LKC> thx
[08:13] <Jucato> Zvezdichko: so does Konversation
[08:13] <Homer> or kvirc :p
[08:13] <intelikey> Zvezdichko irssi has multi-tabbing
[08:14] <Jucato> lol
[08:14] <Homer> bitchx has multiserver
[08:14] <Zvezdichko> and BitchX...
[08:14] <Zvezdichko> you take the words from my mouth
[08:14] <Zvezdichko> :)
[08:14] <intelikey> Homer :)
[08:14] <intelikey> epic
[08:14] <kuto> ok got it tnx
[08:14] <intelikey> LKC i didn't
[08:15] <intelikey> lkc your irc client highlights when your nick is in the text
[08:15] <LKC> ok thx
[08:15] <Zvezdichko> !xchat-console
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat-console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <Zvezdichko> oh...
[08:17] <intelikey> LKC and also of note.  you ask about "best"  that's just begging for a flame war.    best is subjective   they are all good apps and each 'better' at the one thing they were designed for.    but there is no 'best' blah.    cause we all have openions and they dont agree.
[08:18] <LKC> well i did really ask for the best app for use as a stereo that does the job like itunes or WMP but better
[08:18] <Zaire> well Im off to watch a movie and go to bed...laters
[08:18] <LKC> also must be very user friendly
[08:19] <Ryan_> im booting from a live cd trying to change some display setting on an installed kubuntu how do i get permission  to assess the .kde file to get to my config file
[08:19] <intelikey> LKC  i wasn't just joking (although it was a joke) when i said sox is the way to play music.  but it's only a cli filter that lets you read music files to the digital sound device.  it comes with a cli frontend "play"  which togather they are very good in my openion.  but im not you.
[08:20] <Zvezdichko> lol, installed the flash plugin, some sites look OK, except the NASA website
[08:20] <intelikey> prolly using flash8
[08:21] <Homer> hasn't adobe been working on updating flash?
[08:21] <LKC> intelikey is ox much like WMP or iTunes or Amarok to look at because he is very visual based so it must look nice
[08:21] <LKC> *sox
[08:22] <intelikey> no nothing like them at all
[08:22] <intelikey> vlc is a lot more like them
[08:22] <LKC> is it pleasant to look at?
[08:22] <intelikey> nothing to see
[08:22] <intelikey> it's cli
[08:22] <Zvezdichko> as we started talking about NASA, I think about watching NASA TV through the browser. There is a realplayer plugin for firefox, but is there a plugin for konqueror...
[08:22] <intelikey> !cli
[08:22] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:23] <Zvezdichko> also, having problems with taking screenshots when playing a clip. the player ( whatever it is ) shows a blue screen on the screenie
[08:23] <Homer> dude adobe is saying Q1 2007
[08:23] <Homer> by then I think gnash will be able to play flash 9 files anyway
[08:23] <LKC> yeah i was thinking vlc or amarok too start with but was wondering if there are alternatives that play all files and display them weel
[08:24] <intelikey> !mplayer
[08:24] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:24] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:24] <intelikey> !audacity
[08:24] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[08:24] <intelikey> !vlc
[08:24] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:25] <intelikey> bastards
[08:25] <Zvezdichko> cute tongue
[08:25] <intelikey> well i cant spell illegitimate brats
[08:25] <LKC> kool thx for the help will give them all a go seeing i have 80 gig to fill
[08:26] <intelikey> besides when did bastard become a bad word ?
[08:27] <intelikey> but if it offends you.  i'll try to refrain from using it in here.
[08:28] <Zvezdichko> who were you talking to ;)
[08:28] <intelikey> da fella dat commented on my comment.....   errr you.
[08:28] <Zvezdichko> anyway, bastard is not a bad word, use it as you wish :)
[08:29] <intelikey> then what was "<Zvezdichko> cute tongue"  all about ?
[08:29] <intelikey> never mind.
[08:30] <Zvezdichko> it's sounds good :)
[08:30] <Zvezdichko> it*
[08:32] <Ryan_> whats the root password for a live cd
[08:32] <Ryan_> ubuntu
[08:32] <intelikey> there isn't one
[08:32] <intelikey> !sudo
[08:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:32] <Ryan_> how do i setr
[08:32] <Ryan_> set*
[08:33] <comosomos> ju?
[08:33] <intelikey> if you want a root passwd on the live do   sudo passwd
[08:33] <Zvezdichko> I think you can set a password with sudo passwd
[08:33] <comosomos> yes you can
[08:33] <Ryan_> ah....i forgot the sudo part ...thanks
[08:34] <intelikey> Ryan_ why would you want a password on the live cd ?
[08:34] <intelikey> sudo -i   is instant root     ubuntu is root jr.  on the live
[08:34] <comosomos> i tried ones to install xgl on the live cd