[01:57] <raf_> and i dont have the money to go to a "puter store to fix it"
[01:58] <surface> raf_:  try to fit it urself then
[01:58] <Sikon> how can I record video from the desktop?
[01:58] <kendals> bitlbee is no good, zaggnyl
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: Is this a dual boot system or single boot, how many partitions on the drive?
[01:58] <raf_> i want to..but i dont know how to fix bad secotors on hard drive
[01:58] <Ohh_noO> hi all
[01:58] <raf_> i have dual partition ..ubuntu  / xp
[01:58] <raf_> i can format if nesccesary
[01:58] <raf_> but will ir work?
[01:58] <Sikon> Jack_Sparrow> Salute to you, Captain!
[01:59] <raf_> linux gives me message about bad sectors....windows just blue screens...im on failsafe terminal now
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: Soft errors can be fixed, laptops get bounced around alot, and if the drive is spinning it can have disasterous results
[01:59] <surface> raf_:  somehow u manage to online
[01:59] <Ohh_noO> Pls Help Me! I use this line in my /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb1	/media/storage2 ntfs	umask=0222	0	0
[01:59] <surface> raf_: try to google for low level format
[02:00] <raf_> im on failsafe term...typed in gnome-session
[02:00] <raf_> and used term to irc
[02:00] <Ohh_noO> but i cant open the partition
[02:00] <josh_> whats up people?
[02:00] <josh_> what is the command for getting the system time in seconds?
[02:00] <raf_> so what can i do...reformat entire drive?
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: Get this cd... http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[02:00] <surface> raf_: i think ur hdd got big problem. so low level format may recover it, and may not and u have to change ur hdd
[02:01] <raf_> will a puter store be able to install a new HD?
[02:01] <raf_> for my laptop
[02:01] <raf_> ?
[02:01] <j2daosh> yeah
[02:01] <j2daosh> and if they cant leave fast
[02:01] <raf_> do u have any idea of what they charge?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: salvation hdd scan and repair tool is on that... and many others
[02:01] <KenSentMe> Is there a tool i can use to put dv video back to my camera?
[02:01] <j2daosh> no idea... probably around 40 if you go to best buy
[02:01] <raf_> problem is...i cant boot of cds
[02:02] <raf_> same issue...bios stals
[02:02] <j2daosh> raf u have to change that in the bios
[02:02] <raf_> i did
[02:02] <j2daosh> nevermind
[02:02] <j2daosh> lol
[02:02] <raf_> i think my hd is messed up
[02:02] <j2daosh> anyone know what the command is to get systemtime in seconds?
[02:02] <j2daosh> if your bios stalls u got bigger problems then your HDD lol
[02:03] <raf_> what can i do then?
[02:03] <raf_> take it to professional ?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: Bios may only stall due to hd errors....   Sometimes it takes awhile but will go through and boot to the cd
[02:03] <bionoid> j2daosh: what do you mean? current unixtime?
[02:03] <Lynoure> j2daosh: see   man date
[02:03] <j2daosh> yeah
[02:03] <surface> raf_:  low level format
[02:03] <bionoid> date +%s
[02:03] <raf_> low level format?
[02:03] <raf_> can this be done with ubuntu live cd?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: low level format
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: I thought you could not boot to the cd?
[02:04] <j2daosh> how would i get file times in seconds also?
[02:04] <surface> raf_:  try to google it, it contain with bootable disc
[02:04] <raf_> most of the time i get "operating system not found"
[02:04] <Ohh_noO> Pls Help Me! I use this line in my /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb1	/media/storage2 ntfs	umask=0222	0	0
[02:04] <raf_> message
[02:04] <Ohh_noO> but i cant open the partition
[02:04] <alanhs> Hi, does anyone know how to get details of the changes made to a system by the last update ?
[02:04] <j2daosh> what is the "I" stuff?
[02:05] <raf_> it tells me i have 4% bad sectors
[02:05] <raf_> from my last forced disk check
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: make a backup of fstab   sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup to make a backup
[02:05] <jrib> j2daosh: it's a tab
[02:05] <bionoid> j2daosh: ctime, mtime, atime.. what?
[02:05] <raf_> i tried to reinstall ubuntu..it stalled during the install at around 81%
[02:05] <califfo> I need to know how to find my QT version 4 qmake on my pc, can u help me?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: open it with   gedit  /etc/fstab     and copy it to !pastebin
[02:06] <raf_> all this started..when i accidentaly cut power to my laptop a few days ago
[02:06] <j2daosh> ctime....date(ctime)?
[02:06] <surface> raf_:  no harm try to check out google for what is low level format, and i did this last time and manage to fix bad sector.
[02:06] <Ohh_noO> k
[02:07] <zaggynl> holy crap, the zipping in in ubuntu really beats the crap out of the winxp's one
[02:07] <Samuli^> zipping?
[02:07] <raf_> i dont see a "sony vaio" low level format
[02:07] <ootput> how do i switch colorschemes/themes for kde apps when not running in kde?
[02:07] <earthian> my display driver is not working
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: Some things are best left to professionals...
[02:08] <earthian> the fglrx
[02:08] <raf_> :(
[02:08] <earthian> any way to debug it?
[02:08] <bionoid> j2daosh: perl -e '@a=stat("filename");print $a[10] ;'
[02:08] <raf_> how much does a HD replacement for a sony vaio laptop go for?
[02:08] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, there is: http://pastebin.ca/176103
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian: you can post your xorg and let someone check it out.
[02:08] <bionoid> j2daosh: I'm sure there's a better way to do that, though
[02:08] <Samuli^> earthian, does your X start?
[02:08] <earthian> yea
[02:08] <earthian> all start
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: Looking now...
[02:09] <earthian> and instead of fglrx driver i see mesa driver in fglrxinfo
[02:09] <Shadowpillar_> how well does the jmicron AHCI work?
[02:09] <Samuli^> earthian, grep "fglrx" /etc/X11/xorg.conf gives you a line?
[02:09] <daurn> what is a good ftp server WITH gui that ISN'T perl
[02:09] <zaggynl> Samuli^, compressing files using zip
[02:09] <alessdoc> how can i see which processe is using oss?
[02:09] <alessdoc> what is the command line?
[02:10] <earthian> Samuli^, gives me two lines infact
[02:10] <bionoid> j2daosh: like stat -c%Z filename
[02:10] <surface> alessdoc:  top?
[02:10] <surface> alessdoc:  htop?
[02:10] <daurn> what is a good ftp server WITH gui that ISN'T perl
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> is there a log i can view to find otu where the clients requesting the pxelinux.0 file from?
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: Thats ugly.... You show hdb1 as both vfat and ntfs...
[02:10] <earthian> !paste
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> i can only see a dhcp request in syslog
[02:10] <bionoid> daurn: Microsoft IIS is for you
[02:10] <earthian> i will paste you the xorg file
[02:11] <Samuli^> erathian, ok then, paste your xorg.conf to pastebin.
[02:11] <daurn> bionoid: ???
[02:11] <zaggynl> !quicktime
[02:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:11] <alessdoc> with top i see all the process
[02:11] <daurn> something like filezilla server for windows
[02:11] <alessdoc> i need the process that is using oss
[02:11] <surface> daurn:  u want to make it at windows or linux?
[02:11] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, Oops copy paste editing....
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: You are mixing sata and ide drives....(not part of your problem atm)
[02:11] <surface> daurn:  nautilus is actually support that
[02:12] <daurn> surface: running on/in ubuntu, but adminable from anywhere - with a gui
[02:12] <surface> ftp://name@ip
[02:12] <daurn> surface: SERVER ;)
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: MAybe you just need to tell me what you are trying to do
[02:12] <surface> daurn:  ssh will do,
[02:12] <surface> daurn:  at windows site, client can find ssh client
[02:12] <daurn> ??
[02:12] <surface> daurn:  ssh client support drag and drop
[02:12] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, I just want use may other partitions
[02:13] <surface> daurn:  or winscp, but winscp slow.
[02:13] <daurn> surface: i want a server with a gui :S
[02:13] <daurn> how is ssh that?
[02:13] <earthian> Samuli^, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23979
[02:13] <Samuli^> Ohh_noO, can you manually mount the partition?
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: You made the backup correct?
[02:13] <surface> daurn:  why u need server with gui?
[02:13] <daurn> cause i want one :S
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[02:14] <daurn> :*(
[02:14] <AZzKikR> daurn, for what purpose?
[02:14] <surface> daurn:  just a simple setup, why need gui.
[02:14] <daurn> don't ask why - just answer the question :S
[02:14] <earthian> daurn:
[02:14] <bionoid> daurn: I already answered - microsoft IIS.
[02:14] <earthian> !info gproftpd
[02:14] <ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 664 kB
[02:14] <surface> daurn:  it sounds rude to say this
[02:14] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, the backup is ok
[02:14] <surface> daurn:  ms IIS
[02:14] <daurn> bionoid: under ubuntu???
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: Use the script I linked
[02:14] <earthian> so you need proftpd and gproftpd
[02:15] <bionoid> daurn: No. Clearly you don't want to be running ubuntu.
[02:15] <daurn> bionoid: correct... but i hate windows even more
[02:15] <earthian> daurn, so you need proftpd and gproftpd
[02:15] <Samuli^> earthian, (make a backup of your xorg.conf) and try commenting out lines 123,124 and 128-133
[02:15] <earthian> mh
[02:15] <earthian> k
[02:15] <daurn> earthian: thanks, i'll try it out
[02:16] <earthian> np
[02:16] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, thanks i will try it
[02:16] <Graywalker> Hey!  I got a REAL problem...
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian: Sorry I didnt get back to you
[02:17] <zaggynl> !ports
[02:17] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[02:17] <zaggynl> ..
[02:17] <Graywalker> Synaptic Package Manager isn't showing up anymore... I can use sudo -i but if I try to run anything it says I'm not in the sudoers list any more.
[02:17] <zaggynl> Ubuntu seems to be blocking ports
[02:17] <tristan_> Did someone install properly an INtuix S800/Toshiba/Liteon USB TV key?
[02:17] <AZzKikR> wow
[02:17] <AZzKikR> what's happening here?
[02:17] <earthian> wtf?
[02:17] <tristan_> don't know
[02:17] <b0rdslide> hi. how can i get ubuntu to use my x server keymap not the gnome keymap? gnome keeps putting this stupid dead keys thing on
[02:18] <SillyZ> looks like a bad connection, on / off / on / off
[02:18] <tristan_> Did someone install properly an INtuix S800/Toshiba/Liteon USB TV key?
[02:18] <AZzKikR> and he has automatic reconnection
[02:18] <daurn> earthian: thx for the tip - looks good
[02:18] <SillyZ> might be his isp rebooting some equipment
[02:18] <SillyZ> and auto-reconnect yup
[02:18] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, thank you for your help! Bye!
[02:18] <Graywalker> Anyone know about Sudoers list and how I could get booted off of it on my machine?
[02:18] <Ohh_noO> bye all
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:19] <earthian> is there a way to restart all GUI/UI without a need to reboot entire PC ?
[02:19] <alamba> earthian: ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:19] <b0rdslide> earthian: ctrl-alt-backspace should do it
[02:20] <AZzKikR> Graywalker, did you edit the /etc/sudoers file?
[02:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> morning guys
[02:20] <earthian> ok thanks
[02:20] <Graywalker> Nope.
[02:20] <Graywalker> I don't know what did... or would have...
[02:20] <Graywalker> Can I do that now that I'm not on it??
[02:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> may i ask a quick question?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[02:20] <AZzKikR> Graywalker, wait before you edit that file. Can you just do a normal sudo operation?
[02:21] <[BTF] Chm0d> trying to install the nvidia drivers.  I have gcc 4.* installed now it says im missing cc?
[02:21] <Graywalker> I can log in terminal using sudo -i
[02:21] <Graywalker> but can't run Synaptic package manager
[02:21] <kendals> SKYPE FINALLY WORKS FOR ME!
[02:21] <raf_> i found something called dariks boot and nuke
[02:21] <Graywalker> I've installed some website management packages - skreem, kwiki and a couple other items.
[02:21] <raf_> on saourceforge
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> [BTF] Chm0d: have you used our help info or are you using some other one..
[02:21] <raf_> it does low level format
[02:21] <raf_> i hope i can make it work
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > [BTF] Chm0d
[02:22] <raf_> i need to install it via gnome baker first..lets hope that works
[02:22] <[BTF] Chm0d> i have used yours from last night but was missing gcc...I installed that and now I get this error from nvidia installer
[02:23] <micahcowan> [BTF] Chm0d, did you install build-depend?
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia > jack_sparrow
[02:23] <alessdoc> how can i see which process is using oss?
[02:24] <[BTF] Chm0d> the exact error is unable to find development tool 'cc' in your path
[02:24] <AZzKikR> Graywalker, quite odd... i can't seem to find anything specific .. :/
[02:24] <CarinArr> [btf] chm0d, install build-essential
[02:24] <bionoid> [BTF] Chm0d: but if you type 'cc' and hit enter, it says something akin to "no input files" ?
[02:24] <Graywalker> The Sudoers file has a red X on it... and the permissions are saying the owner only has read permission...
[02:24] <bionoid> [BTF] Chm0d: or "command not found" ?
[02:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> command not found
[02:25] <bionoid> [BTF] Chm0d: Right. And if you type 'gcc' ?
[02:25] <AZzKikR> Graywalker, iirc, /etc/sudoers is only readable by someone with sudo permissions, and is only writable through the visudo command
[02:25] <raf_> ok dban 1.0.7 is burnung
[02:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm samething but i installed it?
[02:26] <bionoid> [BTF] Chm0d: No.. No you didn't. :)
[02:26] <Graywalker> So... how do I log on as actual 'root' user in Ubuntu?
[02:26] <micahcowan> [BTF] Chm0d, what is the second line in the output of "update-alternatives --display cc"?
[02:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> i thought i did :P  form the synaptic package manager
[02:26] <micahcowan> [BTF] Chm0d, install build-depend
[02:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> no alternatives
[02:27] <AZzKikR> !root
[02:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> k mica i will try that thank you
[02:27] <earthian> hey
[02:27] <earthian> no success
[02:28] <Graywalker> graywalker@Beth:/etc$ !root
[02:28] <Graywalker> root
[02:28] <Graywalker> bash: root: command not found
[02:28] <Graywalker> graywalker@Beth:/etc$
[02:28] <[BTF] Chm0d> installing now
[02:28] <[BTF] Chm0d> :)
[02:28] <bionoid> lol
[02:28] <AZzKikR> Graywalker, read that page the ubotu bot returned :)
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Graywalker:  use sudo, or gksudo or kdesu....
[02:29] <AZzKikR> Jack_Sparrow, he can only sudo using the -i flag somehow
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Graywalker: Did you already set a root password earlier?
[02:30] <Graywalker> no.
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Graywalker: had to ask
[02:30] <Graywalker> Thats the problem, Jack_Sparrow... I'm no longer in the sudoers file... for some odd reason...
[02:31] <daurn> earthian: ctrl+alt+backspace?
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Graywalker: Were you running nautilus as root for anything?
[02:31] <earthian_> hey
[02:31] <Graywalker> Not that I know of...
[02:31] <bionoid> Graywalker: you could boot to single user mode, add yourself to sudoers, then reboot and you're set.
[02:32] <earthian_> Samuli^, it is not working.. what exactly i should write there?
[02:32] <Graywalker> how do I boot to single user mode?  ( Pretty Nubie here, but learning quick )
[02:32] <earthian_> Graywalker,
[02:32] <Graywalker> I guess I could just try it :D
[02:32] <earthian_> can you su
[02:32] <earthian_> ?
[02:32] <earthian_> type su
[02:32] <earthian_> and then root password
[02:32] <earthian_> or type login then root and password
[02:33] <Samuli^> grayscale, sudo init 1
[02:33] <AZzKikR> earthian, that only works when you explicitly added a root user
[02:33] <earthian_> oh
[02:33] <earthian_> :o
[02:33] <Graywalker> su gets authentication error
[02:33] <earthian_> i see
[02:33] <Samuli^> grayscale, and to get back to multi-user sudo init 2
[02:34] <bionoid> Graywalker: reboot, at the grub menu hit 'e' then type 'linux single'
[02:34] <Samuli^> really.. SUDO INIT 1 :)
[02:34] <Graywalker> Will try now... thanks!!
[02:34] <bionoid> Samuli^: Yeah, great idea for adding yourself to sudoers ;)
[02:35] <Samuli^> bionoid, that's not what he asked.
[02:35] <bionoid> um, yes, yes it was.
[02:35] <Samuli^> "<Graywalker> how do I boot to single user mode? "
[02:35] <Graywalker> I've been removed from the Sudoers file somehow...
[02:35] <Samuli^> so I told him. :)
[02:35] <Graywalker> Can't do anything.
[02:36] <Graywalker> rebooting to single user mode was suggested.  I didn't know how.
[02:36] <earthian_> Samuli^, my gfx is still not working.. what exactly i should write there in those lines??
[02:36] <earthian_> remember?
[02:36] <ubuntu> im using ubuntu live cd to format all my partitions
[02:36] <ubuntu> can this work?
[02:36] <Samuli^> oh ok, then you need to use the fail-safe option at grub, that'll get you to runlevel 1 and as root of course.
[02:36] <ubuntu> to fix bad sectors?
[02:37] <jalla> I am having problems installing compiz, can someone please help
[02:37] <Graywalker> Samuli - now that rings true... thanks...
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: SOft errors yes, hard errors no.
[02:37] <Graywalker> L8Tr
[02:37] <bionoid> ubuntu: You can't really "fix" a bad sector - you can flag it as bad so it won't be used, then wait for the rest of your disk to corrupt..
[02:37] <Samuli^> hmm, does he know what to do after he's in the bash.. I wonder.
[02:37] <ubuntu> well jacl_sparrows...i will attempt to reinstall ubuntu on entire harddrive..if this dosent fix it..am i to consider a new HD?
[02:37] <jalla> I am having problems installing compiz, can someone please help
[02:37] <earthian_> ubuntu, better go copy your data asap
[02:38] <earthian_> jalla, what video hardware?
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> bionoid: It is a laptop that lost power while writing, not to mention movement while spinning..
[02:38] <jalla> nvidia geforce mx 440
[02:38] <bionoid> Ouch ;)
[02:38] <ubuntu> is there a terminal command to run a disk check?
[02:38] <jalla> i get this errior message: gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[02:38] <jalla> jukebox@jukebox:~$ compiz.real: No composite extension
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> He was here earlier under a different name
[02:39] <ubuntu> Jacksparrow....i have hda1 and hda2...my hda2 has boot flag..i need this on hda1...how to change it?
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: just tell the installer to use the entire disk...
[02:40] <politik> Is there a way to make apt or aptitude download multiple packages at once, in the phase before package installation?
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: are you still trying to save your xp?
[02:40] <ubuntu> can having the boot flag on wrong hda cause my problems? "operating system not found"/
[02:40] <Samuli^> jalla, are you sure you have xgl installed and loaded instead of X?
[02:40] <ubuntu> i deleted my xp
[02:40] <JosefK> was XP the first partition on the drive?
[02:40] <ubuntu> im more worried about my linux  laptop then some piece of shit xp
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: You can use gparted to format that partition.
[02:41] <ubuntu> i did just now
[02:41] <ubuntu> im using entire disk to install
[02:41] <ubuntu> im crossing my fingers its a soft issue
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: Are you now trying to save your linux install?
[02:41] <ubuntu> i formated everything
[02:41] <ubuntu> lol
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:41] <ubuntu> just not my swap
[02:41] <jalla> i used this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper_no#Hvordan_installerer_jeg_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29.3F
[02:41] <ubuntu> i dont see a need to format swap
[02:42] <ubuntu> since its empty
[02:42] <califfo> Error: Failed to create ./qtdirs. Make sure you have a working Qt v4 qmake on your PATH or use the -q argument to explicitly specify a working Qt v4 qmake. ... what can I do to solve this error?
[02:42] <ubuntu> if this fails..it seems i need to go visit my local puter shop
[02:42] <ubuntu> and probably purchase a new laptop HD
[02:42] <earthian_> !info fuse
[02:42] <ubotu> Package fuse does not exist in any distro I know
[02:42] <earthian_> !fuse
[02:42] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: this should map out your bad sectors and get you going, but start saving for a new drive
[02:42] <Samuli^> jalla, are you using gnome?
[02:43] <jalla> shure
[02:43] <jalla> yes
[02:43] <ubuntu> i know how i got the bad sectors...i think ...( i cut power to my laptop) a few days ago
[02:43] <ubuntu> all problems started since
[02:43] <ubuntu> i took out the battery then to dust it...and i cut power
[02:44] <ubuntu> lol
[02:44] <ubuntu> gosh im an idiot
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: I have seen a few that lost power as someone tripped over the cord and yanked the laptop
[02:44] <bionoid> ubuntu: Rarely does loss of power cause physical damage to modern hardware - back in the 286 days that was the case (drive didn't park properly by itself), but in general, drives today survive loss of power just fine..
[02:44] <Samuli^> !compiz
[02:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:44] <ubuntu> this is a rather new laptop
[02:44] <ubuntu> 2006 model
[02:44] <ubuntu> only about a year on it
[02:44] <ubuntu> and it never gets moved around
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: This will get you going
[02:44] <ubuntu> hope so
[02:44] <ubuntu> if not...ill have to fork out cash
[02:45] <ubuntu> $$
[02:45] <Samuli^> jalla, try following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351 that's how I got it to work with no fuss.
[02:45] <bionoid> ubuntu: Then it's probably related to alcohol, baseball bats, sledge hammer or any other hard object ;)
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: Next time delete the swap and let the installer rebuild everything
[02:45] <jalla> someone please help
[02:45] <jalla> ok
[02:45] <ubuntu> i chose "use entire IDE"
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> bionoid: Room-mates....
[02:46] <bionoid> "mates" ;\
[02:46] <ubuntu> thank god i keep all my important data on external drive
[02:46] <ubuntu> and dvds
[02:46] <Samuli^> jalla, no, wait. This one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: Good choice
[02:46] <ubuntu> otherwise i woulda been doin alot of cursing right now
[02:46] <Neo8750> its the way to do it
[02:46] <jalla> does it mather that i used the other guide first?
[02:47] <Samuli^> jalla, after you've done that and confirmed it works you want to add quinn's repos and start compiz with compiz-start instead of the 'thefuture' script
[02:47] <ubuntu> i cant believe my boot flag was on my hda2 = my windows xp
[02:47] <ubuntu> when i used hda1  grub to boot
[02:47] <ubuntu> how the hell
[02:47] <Samuli^> jalla, did you need to rename your /etc/X11/X or something similar?
[02:47] <jalla> i dont think i renamed anything
[02:48] <Artu74> hi all
[02:48] <ubuntu> i should purchase a second HD and put it in my laptop
[02:48] <ubuntu> it has a space for it
[02:48] <ubuntu> maybe a 80 gig one
[02:48] <bionoid> I want two drives in my laptop as well :(
[02:48] <jalla> do you mean this guide?
[02:49] <jalla> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[02:49] <bionoid> I have two cpu cores though, that helps :\
[02:49] <ubuntu> i have 80 gig one right now
[02:49] <ubuntu> but after all this
[02:49] <JosefK> bionoid: I just want a bloomin' laptop *curses dell's delivery service*
[02:49] <ubuntu> i think ill buy a second one
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: I wouldnt add one... id drop in the new one if this one acts up...
[02:49] <Samuli^> jalla, this is what I mean. I'm getting my urls mixed bad :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[02:49] <Samuli^> jalla, yeah, that's the one.
[02:49] <ubuntu> im still hoping its a software issue..since my boot flag was in the wrong place
[02:49] <ubuntu> *&^^%*&%^*(&()
[02:49] <bionoid> JosefK: I never deal with dell anymore - their "next business day service" was in practice "four-months service"
[02:50] <bionoid> I think that deserves some mentioning in their contracts
[02:50] <bionoid> :\
[02:50] <jalla> what aboute this: "
[02:50] <jalla> You must compile the newest CVS version of glitz to get this to work with Nvidia cards that lack Pixel Shaders (aka anything older than a 5200 FX). Hopefully this will be updated in the repository soon.
[02:50] <jalla> "
[02:50] <ubuntu> im not gonna even bother with xgl
[02:50] <ubuntu> after this
[02:50] <Samuli^> jalla, so, I take it you haven't done that?
[02:50] <ubuntu> once this is installed..i need to find a good low level formating tool
[02:50] <jalla> i haven't
[02:51] <jalla> the other guide didn't tell me anything aboute that
[02:51] <chemaja> ubuntu, dd?
[02:51] <jalla> how do i do that?
[02:51] <ubuntu> ive read up on it
[02:51] <ubuntu> seems its not a bad idea
[02:51] <ubuntu> i found one on sourceforge net
[02:51] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> Please Poland!!!
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: no, once this is installed you are done
[02:51] <ubuntu> polska?
[02:51] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> tak
[02:51] <ubuntu> czesc
[02:51] <politik> Is there a way to make apt download multiple packages at once, in the phase before package installation?
[02:51] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> siema
[02:51] <ubuntu> dobrze
[02:51] <ubuntu> a ty?
[02:52] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> mam dopiero 20 minut tego Ubuntu
[02:52] <Samuli^> jalla, that one is a good guide. Quite old, but tried and true. and you can easily switch to quinn's packages too.
[02:52] <Trackilizer> How does one add a Firefox like bookmark toolbar into Opera?
[02:52] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> i bardzo mi sie podoba
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> politik: apt-get install package1 package2 package3 .... packagen
[02:52] <bionoid> ubuntu: What brand is your disk?
[02:52] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> nawet sobie sam internet skonfigurowalem...
[02:52] <ubuntu> its a sata 80 gig sony vaio
[02:52] <politik> fyrestrtr: I mean simultaneously... not one after another
[02:52] <jalla> i dont understand what you mean...
[02:52] <ubuntu> not a good one
[02:53] <politik> fyrestrtr: e.g. if I have 10 packages to install, I want them to be downloaded simultaneously, so they download more quickly...
[02:53] <ubuntu> its a sony vaio standard one
[02:53] <jalla> should i use this guide, and not do the CVS stuff?
[02:53] <Neo8750> politik: you want to download in threads (shakey use of term)
[02:53] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> s tu jeszcze jacy polacy?
[02:53] <bionoid> ubuntu: Hm hitachi drive then?
[02:53] <politik> Neo8750: yes exactly. preferably from multiple mirrors
[02:53] <mjr> nie jest atwo
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> English only please
[02:53] <j2daosh> yeah
[02:53] <j2daosh> what he said :)
[02:53] <j2daosh> lol
[02:54] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> mjr... idzie tutaj wejsc na priva?
[02:54] <Davo_Dinkum> arrrrrr!
[02:54] <Samuli^> jalla, you need glitz from cvs and compiled. after that you can go on following the guide.
[02:54] <Neo8750> politik: i know the update does it when it gets package lists but not sure how todo it when actually upgradeing/install
[02:54] <jalla> howe do i do that?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Marcyes, please take it private
[02:54] <mjr> Marcinekkkkkkcze, that's really all the polish I know, so go to #ubuntu-pl
[02:54] <Samuli^> jalla, although I suggest you get the glitz and try if compiz starts with your current setup.
[02:54] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> how?
[02:55] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> co to jest Ubuntu-pl?
[02:55] <jalla> how do i get glitz?
[02:55] <Neo8750> mjr: you only know how to say you don't speek polish? =8-)
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Marcinekkkkkkcze:   /join #ubuntu-pl
[02:55] <mjr> Neo8750, rather "it ain't easy"
[02:55] <Neo8750> hehe
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> No habla engles
[02:56] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> i weak speak english but i know something... heh
[02:57] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> how can i join to polish server? What i must do?
[02:57] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> but how?
[02:58] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> what i must do?
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> write what I wrote about joining a new channel
[02:58] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> this is server or IRC?
[02:58] <califfo> /join #ubuntu-pl
[02:58] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> join #ubuntu-pl
[02:58] <jalla> how do i "get the glitz"?
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Use the slash
[02:58] <ChaosFan> Marcinekkkkkkcze: you need the / in front
[02:58] <Neo8750> Marcinekkkkkkcze: your in an irc chat room on an irc server =)
[02:59] <Samuli^> jalla, did the guide you were following make you add stuff to your sources.list?
[02:59] <jalla> no
[03:00] <Marlun> I've got the 6.06.1 desktop cd, and when I put it in to install a desktop version I can't, It only starts up the live cd  function.
[03:00] <Samuli^> jalla, ok, so first do sudo apt-get install cvs
[03:01] <bionoid> Marlun: Isn't there an "install" icon on your desktop when started from livecd?
[03:01] <brujo> zorro
[03:01] <zorro> what?
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> Marlun: double click the icon marked 'Install' on the desktop of the livecd.
[03:01] <Samuli^> jalla, I'm warning you now though, installing stuff outside of the repos might break your system.
[03:01] <Marlun> oh
[03:02] <Marlun> I'll try that, thanks =)
[03:02] <jalla> :(
[03:02] <jalla> i dont care
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> you will when your puter breaks.
[03:02] <jalla> done
[03:02] <Marlun> I'm not updated on this new stuff :P thanks for the help!
[03:03] <jalla> what now? Follow the guide?
[03:03] <nifan> b'tarde
[03:03] <Samuli^> jalla, ok, so you've installed cvs now. now type cd && mkdir glitz && cd glitz
[03:03] <jalla> done
[03:03] <Samuli^> jalla, then: cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/cairo co glitz
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> please take xgl discussion to #ubuntu-xgl
[03:04] <daurn> hey all
[03:04] <daurn> how do i see what programs are using what ports?
[03:04] <jalla> done
[03:04] <Samuli^> jalla, that should pull in cvs-source of glitz.
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> daurn: netstat -l
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: I use the guarddog firewall manager...
[03:04] <jalla> should i follow the guide now?
[03:04] <daurn> ok... whats this?:
[03:05] <daurn> tcp        0      0 *:8000                  *:*                     LISTEN
[03:05] <Samuli^> jalla, no, we need to compile and install that source first. For that you're going to need some compiling progs and libraries glitz needs.
[03:05] <fyrestrtr> means something is listening on port 8000 on all ip addresses.
[03:05] <daurn> what though?
[03:05] <jalla> ok, how do i do that?
[03:05] <Samuli^> jalla, so type sudo apt-get install bison flex autoconf automake1.9 perl libtool gcc make build-essential
[03:05] <daurn> none of the output explains which programs
[03:06] <daurn> just the ports used - and their states
[03:06] <Samuli^> jalla, that might take a while to download :)
[03:06] <jalla> yes
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Oh, boy kernel updates and a flood of people that cant get to XP using grub
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> daurn: netstat -lp
[03:07] <daurn> ah
[03:07] <daurn> better
[03:07] <daurn> but still not for this bugger:
[03:07] <visik7> Jack_Sparrow: is not a bug is a feature :)
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:07] <daurn> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       PID/Program name
[03:07] <jalla> done
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> dark: run it with sudo
[03:07] <daurn> tcp        0      0 *:8000                  *:*                     LISTEN     -
[03:07] <visik7> Jack_Sparrow: here to friends of mine hasn't problem booting windows after kernel update
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> dark: if you run it with sudo, it will give you the process name.
[03:08] <fyrestrtr> !grub > visik7
[03:08] <daurn> ah
[03:08] <daurn> thx
[03:08] <visik7> fyrestrtr: I DON'T NEED GRUB INFO!
[03:08] <CromagDK> !shout
[03:08] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:08] <daurn> hmm
[03:08] <daurn> wtf
[03:08] <fyrestrtr> visik7: sure you do, you just don't know it yet.
[03:08] <daurn> i just installed icecast
[03:08] <daurn> but... it errored on port busy
[03:08] <visik7> fyrestrtr:  I'm not the one with the problem
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> visik7: IT always seems to remove XP from my grub list
[03:08] <jalla> what now?
[03:08] <daurn> but.... in netstat - its already being used my icecast
[03:09] <daurn> !!!
[03:09] <visik7> fyrestrtr: Jack_Sparrow has problem with grub not me
[03:09] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: see what I said about grub :)
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> visik7: My grub is fine, for the moment
[03:09] <fyrestrtr> daurn: well now you know why its busy :)
[03:09] <CromagDK> i cant update kernel :P not enough space in /boot
[03:09] <visik7> CromagDK: remove some old kernels
[03:10] <CromagDK> there are non
[03:10] <CromagDK> only made 20 megs for it
[03:10] <daurn> ok, what do you guys suggets as a library based audio player, that is like, but NOT amarok
[03:10] <daurn> *suggest
[03:10] <Marlun> Ok, so the live cd started up but my resolution is all down to 640x480 so when I click on "Install" I can't see enough. There are no resolution options to choose from either. How can I add that?
[03:10] <fyrestrtr> daurn: Exaile
[03:10] <Samuli^> jalla, now all you need is the libraries: sudo apt-get install libglitz1 libglitz1-dev libglitz-glx1 libglitz-glx1-dev
[03:11] <daurn> fyrestrtr: not in apt-get
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> daurn: http://www.exaile.org/
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> daurn: yes, I'm aware of that.
[03:11] <ootput> at any point in the install process (from the alt. cd,) will a network connection be required?
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> daurn: you can get a deb for dapper from that site.
[03:12] <jalla> done
[03:12] <daurn> thx
[03:12] <ootput> There's a box in an internet-less room that I'd like to install Ubuntu on
[03:12] <daurn> does it support shoutcast (out)
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> ootput: no, it doesn't.
[03:13] <fyrestrtr> daurn: for streams, sudo aptitude -r install streamtuner
[03:13] <Samuli^> jalla, ok, now: sudo mkdir /opt/fdo && sudo mkdir /opt/fdo/share && sudo mkdir /opt/fdo/share/aclocal
[03:13] <jalla> done
[03:14] <Samuli^> jalla, then: sudo chown -hR yourusername && /opt/fdocp /usr/share/aclocal/* /opt/fdo/share/aclocal/ && cp /usr/share/aclocal-1.9/* /opt/fdo/share/aclocal/
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought you guys were asked nicely to take that to another room
[03:14] <Samuli^> ok, sorry.
[03:15] <daurn> fyrestrtr: htf do you use streamtuner
[03:15] <daurn> :S
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> daurn: you browse streams, click on the one you like, it opens them in xmms :)
[03:15] <daurn> ok
[03:15] <daurn> problem 1. xmms won't connect
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> daurn: you can also record streams from it.
[03:15] <dbzdeath> um i have a problem i have some broken packages could someone help me please?
[03:15] <daurn> problem 2. i wanted to host my own stream
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: What are you trying to install
[03:16] <Marlun> Is there no way to add resolution on the live cd? I can't install right now because my screen is stuck at a very low resolution =/
[03:16] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: i was trying to install an update to libcairo2
[03:16] <fyrestrtr> daurn: to host your own stream, you just need shoutcast/icecast -- that's it.
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix or EasyUbuntu, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[03:16] <jalla> i get an error: chown: mangler operand etter jukebox
[03:16] <jalla> Prv med chown --help for mer informasjon.
[03:16] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: nope never
[03:16] <daurn> fyrestrtr: but does exaile output to it?
[03:17] <Samuli^> jalla, check your query.
[03:17] <fyrestrtr> daurn: it doesn't. exaile is a replacement for amarok.
[03:17] <derjur> anyone know why 'fortune | cowsay | mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>works, but when i put it in a crontab, it only does 'cowsay | mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[03:17] <daurn> ok..
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: ggod choice
[03:17] <daurn> maybe i'm missing the point
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> good
[03:17] <jalla> ????
[03:17] <daurn> but, back in windows
[03:17] <Neo8750> why would you prut them in crontab?
[03:17] <daurn> you had the server
[03:17] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: so.. can you help me?
[03:18] <fyrestrtr> derjur: give the full path to fortune in the cron job.
[03:18] <daurn> and a plugin for your player, that outputted to the server
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: I'll try
[03:18] <Samuli^> jalla, what program are you using to irc?
[03:18] <jalla> xChat
[03:18] <derjur> fyrestrtr: awesome, that's the one
[03:18] <Samuli^> jalla, well, see the bottom, you should see my name there in a separate tab.
[03:18] <Neo8750> wouldn't you want fortune and all that to be in bashrc or the system version of that file
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: What packages can it not find?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: Thank you
[03:19] <jalla> yes
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> Samuli^: only registered nicks can send and recieve queries on this network.
[03:19] <daurn> fyrestrtr: is that not true for ubuntu?
[03:19] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: it's not what it can't find it's what it wants to remove...
[03:19] <Samuli^> fyrestrtr, damn.
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> daurn: what isn't?
[03:19] <daurn> maybe i'm missing the point
[03:19] <daurn> but, back in windows
[03:19] <Samuli^> would you guys mind, I think we're almost done here anyways. :)
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: What is it trying to remove?
[03:19] <daurn> and a plugin for your player, that outputted to the server
[03:19] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: "155 to remove"
[03:20] <dbzdeath> shit loads of stuff
[03:20] <daurn> arg
[03:20] <daurn> you had the server
[03:20] <saiko> anyone here use cplay, as far as i can tell it doesn't support any ID3 tag read/view/edit option, am i right on this one ?
[03:20] <daurn> and a plugin for your player, that outputted to the server
[03:20] <isildur> moin
[03:20] <Samuli^> jalla, type ls in the glitz directory, do you see directory glitz there? if you do, go to it.
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: I already put him on ignore.. again, aftert taking him off it this morning.
[03:21] <manmadha> is there any diff detween shell & bash scripting if so acu u tell me???
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> daurn: you mean this?
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> !info xmms-liveice
[03:21] <ubotu> xmms-liveice: XMMS plugin that sends your audio to a shoutcast server. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.0-6 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> manmadha: bash is one of many shells available on linux.
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: There was a bug about that... I would rather bow out than mislead you.
[03:21] <jalla> i is there
[03:22] <bionoid> manmadha: "shell" is a generic term, which can describe bash, ash, zsh, tcsh etc. bash is a specific shell
[03:22] <manmadha> fyrestrtr, ya ya
[03:22] <manmadha> got it
[03:22] <zaggynl> a shell is what allows you to communicate with the kernel right?
[03:22] <Ash-Fox> No
[03:22] <dbzdeath> grrm..
[03:22] <Ash-Fox> A shell is a command intepreter.
[03:22] <fyrestrtr> zaggynl: no, a shell is a front end to the operating system itself.  Can someone tell me if I would see better results running the 686 kernel on a celeron 1.6 as opposed to 386?
[03:23] <Samuli^> jalla, after that: make && sudo make install
[03:23] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: nothing visible.
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr:   dbzdeath  is trying to updatel something that wante to remove 150+ packages
[03:23] <daurn> um
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: that's nice.
[03:24] <daurn> how do you change sound cards in cplay?
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> daurn: you probably want xmms-liveice :)
[03:24] <marcus_> fyrestrtr: Thanks.
[03:24] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: i know why the problem happened but i don't know how to get it to "undo"
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> dbzdeath: what are you trying to install?
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> marcus_: You can have both available to choose from
[03:24] <dbzdeath> fyrestrtr: well i don't want it installed anymore but it was libcairo2
[03:24] <Hasdech> hello all - would someone be so kind as to help me get started adding a second hdd to my ubuntu box...?  it has no partition on it at the moment ... how do i partition the drive and ?format it? and mount it?  anyone know any good noob sites that might help me ...?
[03:25] <marcus_> Jack_Sparrow: if it isn't going to make a difference i'll just stay with 386
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> Hasdech: to format and partition the drive, install gparted and run it from system > administration
[03:25] <daurn> how do you change sound cards in cplay?
[03:25] <RedKrieg> Hasdech if you already have it in the box and connected, use sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> marcus_: It isnt going to make much difference
[03:25] <Samuli^> Hasdech, you can do all that with system/administration/disks
[03:25] <Schamane> hi hter
[03:25] <RedKrieg> Hasdech: then you can use gparted
[03:26] <Hasdech> sorry - i should have said i am running ubuntu on this box - but NOT the gui - i have no gui - i'm using command line only - sorry forgot to mention that
[03:26] <Thug_P> hello
[03:26] <earthian_> Hasdech, parted then
[03:26] <Hasdech> so - server install ...
[03:26] <Schamane> i just got a question about hw support, i wanna install ubuntu server on an dell PE 1950, the problem ist, that the raid and the NIC are not detected
[03:26] <marcus_> The other question I have is why fglrx-ati has problems with radeon express cards
[03:26] <CromagDK> !hardware
[03:26] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:27] <Schamane> where can i read about hw support or something else?
[03:27] <Schamane> ubotu: thx
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:27] <daurn> how do i change the "default" sound card?
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> Hasdech: use cfdisk or fdisk to create partitions, and then depending on what filesystem you want, you can use the various mk* commands to create the filesystem. Then, create a mount point (a directory) and mount a partition there, and begin using it.
[03:27] <Samuli^> Hasdech, parted and then you need to mount the drive by using mount or editing fstab for mounting to be automatical. "man" is your friend :)
[03:27] <CromagDK> !hax
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <CromagDK> damnit
[03:27] <daurn> fyrestrtr:  how do i change the "default" sound card?
[03:27] <Schamane> thx Jack_Sparrow
[03:27] <kihai> Hi there, just a short question: Does anyone know where to change the auth.log settings, so that I can see both login and logout times of all users?
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> daurn: how many sound cards do you have?
[03:27] <daurn> 2
[03:27] <kihai> Until now there are only the login times
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Schamane: the other bot info you want is ndiswrapper
[03:28] <jalla> done
[03:28] <Schamane> Jack_Sparrow: no, cause its an e1000 module
[03:28] <Schamane> i think
[03:28] <Bend4rt> what is a very VERY ubuntu begginner site that would explain easily how to start using ubuntu ?
[03:28] <scrp> smbmount is the only way to access shared windows file
[03:28] <Hasdech> fyre: is there any diff between cfdisk or fdisk?
[03:28] <CromagDK> Bend4rt: look in topic :)
[03:28] <Schamane> i ve installed one with suse 10.1
[03:28] <Schamane> without any problems
[03:28] <CromagDK> very very nice
[03:28] <scrp> Hasdech: only the user interface
[03:28] <Bend4rt> lol thanks
[03:28] <marcus_> Oh yeah one other question. How to I enable shell access to other computers on my network? And would that enable them to start an x-session?
[03:28] <jalla> what do i do next?
[03:28] <Schamane> the hwlist is very incomplete ;)
[03:29] <daurn> fyrestrtr: i changed it in System->Preferences->Sound
[03:29] <ootput> how do i go about themeing (customizing, at least) kde apps without being in the kde environment?
[03:29] <daurn> but when i use any app - it reverts to the other
[03:29] <ootput> for such items as themes, or colorschemes
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Bend4rt: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:29] <scrp> marcus_: you can use ssh to connect to other linux boxes, not sure if you can run X tho
[03:29] <tengil> how do i move files between harddrives while keeping filepermissions and owner/group?
[03:29] <fildo> x11vnc
[03:29] <harrisR> hi room, has anyone ever used IRCD?
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ootput: BAsic themes fro Ubuntu are applied to kde apps like Konversation which I am in now
[03:30] <scrp> Is smbmount the only way to access shared folders on Windwos ?
[03:30] <marcus_> scrp: The other computers on my network are the other OS. Is it still possible to use SSH?
[03:30] <keleus> Do i have to do anything special (besides install the ssh server) to use the X livecd?
[03:30] <Samuli^> jalla, did all go without errors?
[03:30] <jalla> i think so
[03:30] <Samuli^> jalla, now you should have the latest and greatest glitz and can continue using the guide.
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> tengil: if both hard disks have filesystems that have compatible permissions, then cp -a
[03:30] <jalla> ok, thanks!
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: yes.
[03:30] <scrp> marcus_: you can use ssh to connect to any linux box(running sshd), thats for sure, even from Windows
[03:31] <daurn> how do i change the "default" sound card?
[03:31] <daurn> i changed it in System->Preferences->Sound
[03:31] <marcus_> fyrestrtr: Thanks
[03:31] <Samuli^> jalla, but first try if compiz starts now.
[03:31] <daurn> but when i use any app - it reverts to the other
[03:31] <marcus_> scrp: Thanks
[03:31] <jalla> ok
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: do you have two sound cards, an onboard and a plugin
[03:31] <daurn> yes
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[03:31] <tengil> fyrestrtr: ah but i cant use mv for this? ill copy and then remove?
[03:31] <jalla> error: compiz.real: No composite extension jukebox@jukebox:~/glitz/glitz$ gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27186
[03:32] <scrp> marcus_: if your running windows and want to connect to your linux box you can use putty, http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[03:32] <Samuli^> jalla, ok, so follow the guide.
[03:32] <jalla> ok
[03:32] <mawe> huhu
[03:32] <Thug_P> while recognizing your all doing something let's do something real
[03:33] <mawe> can someone read me?
[03:33] <Thug_P> first we start a new linux solution for irc users that's how the hell can i switch my system too not run same applications each time on except some
[03:33] <marcus_> scrp: Putty? Okay. Should be easy enough. :) Still wondering about x through ssh?
[03:33] <scrp> marcus_: i dont think thats going to work :p
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: you can tunnel X over ssh. Just google :)
[03:33] <scrp> aw, okay it works then lol
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: but, the better option is to use vnc.
[03:34] <harrisR> I just set up my own chat server and it works great however I cannot op myself? Sounds funny but I was wondering if anyone knows how I can go about this? I looked at my config files but don't see anything there and have been searching the internet much with no luck
[03:34] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: first though, how do i know which sound card is which?
[03:34] <dbzdeath> is it possible to undo a package installation if dpkg -i package.deb happens to fail? if so how?
[03:34] <scrp> harrisR: depends on the ircd you have
[03:34] <marcus_> hmmm is there a way to enable seperate x session like through xmdc (Sp) and is it difficult to do?
[03:34] <CromagDK> harrisR: you might need services
[03:34] <mawe> is ubunutu running on a ntfs volume?
[03:34] <CromagDK> chanserv maybe
[03:34] <kihai> Anyone knows where to change auth.log settings, so that both login and logout times are recorded?
[03:34] <harrisR> I have ircd-irc2?
[03:34] <CromagDK> depends on the ircd
[03:34] <scrp> harrisR: for example you cant op yourself on IRCnet networks
[03:34] <harrisR> installed from synamptic
[03:35] <marcus_> fyrestrtr: Vnc is the shared desktop thing right?
[03:35] <wastrel> ubunto
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> !vnc > marcus_
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: I would use those instructions and try one then the other.
[03:35] <joaquinz> hi!
[03:35] <harrisR> I am not sure what you mean, I am connected to my own computer
[03:35] <joaquinz> is is possible to have direct rendering enabled with a 9600xt using radeon open source driver?
[03:35] <CromagDK> scrp: its localy i think
[03:35] <joaquinz> or not yet?
[03:36] <marcus_> thank you
[03:36] <scrp> can smbclient be used to access shared windows folders? or is it just smbmount ?
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: you can enable remote X logins, but the clients must have a X server running, otherwise you need VNC.
[03:36] <kihai> Noone?
[03:36] <marcus_> Okay
[03:36] <mawe> does ubuntu need a FAT volume?
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> scrp: smbmount to mount shares.
[03:36] <scrp> mawe: no
[03:36] <bionoid> joaquinz: Don't really know, but I know changing from open source to proprietary driver on my 9700 mobility increased the performance by a factor 5, at least..
[03:36] <mawe> so i can go over ntfs without problems?
[03:36] <daurn> mawe: just ext2/3 or reiserfs by standard
[03:36] <scrp> fyrestrtr: so, in what package does smbmount come in with?
[03:36] <CromagDK> mawe: go over ?!
[03:37] <mikbrent> greetings everyone... i have a smbclient vs mount -t smbfs question if someone doenst mind
[03:37] <scrp> mawe: linux runs on ext (usually)
[03:37] <mawe> well, install on a ntfs volume
[03:37] <joaquinz> bionoid: yeah i know, but the open source driver support aiglx :$
[03:37] <joaquinz> :D
[03:37] <CromagDK> mawe: it wont be ntfs when your finished with it heh
[03:37] <der0b> mikbrent, ask and we'll answer if we can
[03:37] <Thug_P> boys and girls tell me how too play dvd in ubuntu
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> scrp: smbclient I think.
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[03:37] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> scrp: sorry, smbfs.
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[03:37] <wastrel> mawe:  you can't install ubuntu on ntfs, the installer will format the drive as a linux filesystem type
[03:37] <Samuli^> !restricted formats > Thug_P
[03:38] <wastrel> bah
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> Samuli^: its RestrictedFormats ;)
[03:38] <Samuli^> ach.
[03:38] <Bend4rt> i just found this automatix and easyubuntu thing that installs the most common things like nvidia drivers and codecs easily... anyone tried these ? wich one is better
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> Bend4rt: don't try either one, they tend to break systems.
[03:39] <mikbrent> ok thands der0b... my deal is this..." smbclient //<IP_ADDRESS>/d$  -U administrator " works while "mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/d$ /mnt/smbfs/ -o user=administrator" fails wsession setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)ith
[03:39] <Samuli^> Bend4rt, word is that easyubuntu is the safer one.
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Bend4rt: Automatix and Easyubuntu are the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling.
[03:39] <ootput> Bend4rt: though, there are conflicting reports
[03:39] <Schamane> mikbrent: is called -o username=
[03:39] <kihai> I can't believe it. There are 890 ppl in this room and no one knows, how the auth.log logger is set up???:'(
[03:39] <Thug_P> boys and girls tell me how too play dvd in ubuntu
[03:39] <shylock> hi after latest dapper update i get the dreaded ati fglrx errors and openoffice wont start. Is there a solution for this, i use an ati card
[03:39] <CromagDK> !dvd
[03:39] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> Bend4rt: there are very easy instructions to get drivers for nvidia and get all the codecs at the wiki. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:40] <Bend4rt> okay... i guess i'll have to learn how to do it without those programs
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> easyubuntu has improved... but it is still better to learn how to do it yourself
[03:40] <ootput> Bend4rt: which is why i always recommend other users to retrieve the packages manually, so they're familiar with the steps required (when working in reverse) to purge their system of said packages
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> shylock: re-compile your fglrx drivers.
[03:40] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, easyubuntu is great for installing codecs and stuff. All it does is pull them out from repos with apt-get, right?
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> shylock: the kernel got updated, so you must rebuild your binary drivers.
[03:40] <Thug_P> f
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> Samuli^: no, that's not what it does.
[03:40] <harrisR> scrp, I just checked. I have ircd-irc2 installed. I can connect to my computer on the standard port. Everything seems to work however it is like the server is not mine. Do you know of any documents I can read up on this? I basically would like to hide my ip when I am on my server and have op status.
[03:40] <gneral> how to uninstall mydns-mysql ?
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> gneral: sudo apt-get remove --purge mydns-mysql
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: I have not looked at the latest version, though I hear it was improved, probably by not using non-standard repos
[03:41] <gneral> thanks fyrestrtr :)
[03:41] <shylock> fyrestrtr: is that really necessary i really dont like compiling things
[03:41] <zaggynl> gah
[03:41] <KenSentMe> If i chmod my firewire interface /dev/raw1394 to 777, will it have the same settings when a firewiredevice is disconnected and connected again (so the /dev/raw1394 is recreated)?
[03:41] <ootput> fyrestrtr: aptitude purge --purge-unused mydns-mysql, and look at the potential changes
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> shylock: just re-install the drivers.
[03:41] <zaggynl> I installed the mozilla flash plugin, but now it crashes as soon as it has to load the .swf
[03:41] <ootput> er
[03:42] <ootput> gneral: ^^
[03:42] <wastrel> shylock:  when you upgrade your kernel you have to upgrade fglrx.  just re-do whatever you did to get it working in the first place
[03:42] <der0b> mikbrent, you are running that command with sudo right?  otherwise, I don't actually see anything wrong with it
[03:42] <gneral> ootput, :)
[03:42] <regx> hi
[03:42] <der0b> mikbrent, the only thing I would change is smbfs to cifs
[03:42] <ootput> regx: small world
[03:42] <regx> lol i know
[03:42] <regx> i was like uh
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: How did you install it and from where did you get it?
[03:42] <TechnoFan> is here someone how can helps me with nvidia, xorg an dual head configuration?
[03:42] <mikbrent> AH!  schamane. thanks that worked. somehow looking thru the man pages i missed that critcal syntax differance
[03:42] <shylock> fyrestrtr: you mean removing fglrx in synaptic and then installing it again?
[03:42] <regx> dude i didnt know lilo but .. his leaving us makes me sad
[03:42] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, synaptic
[03:42] <gneral> Can i Uninstall Apache , Php etc with apt-get uninstall -purge ?
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> shylock: yes.
[03:43] <kihai> *sigh* I'll give it up and will look in a debian channel...
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:43] <shylock> fyrestrtr: thank you
[03:43] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, libflash-mozplugin
[03:43] <mikbrent> thanks all for the great help as usual
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> gneral: sure, anything that you installed using apt.
[03:43] <erpo> Does totem with the gstreamer backend support DVD navigation?
[03:43] <gneral> really thanks fyrestrtr, you are helpful
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: no.
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> gneral: you are welcome
[03:44] <TechnoFan> how can i change the primary screen in dual head mode?
[03:44] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: it seems that wasn't my problem
[03:44] <daurn> :P
[03:44] <daurn> i already have sound
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: use TwinView with nvidia binary drivers, its very easy :)
[03:44] <daurn> just only half the time going to the correct place.
[03:44] <KenSentMe> fyrestrtr: is there a way to give this device some standard rights?
[03:44] <tomcatt> !bluetooth
[03:44] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: devices don't have rights, what are you trying to do?
[03:44] <tomcatt> !wifi
[03:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:45] <TechnoFan> is that a nvidia config tool?
[03:45] <she_died> question about the LIveCD
[03:45] <TechnoFan> can't i change that in the xorg.conf?
[03:45] <zaggynl> !flash
[03:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:45] <shylock> fyrestrtr: didnt seem to help still getting [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for bla bla
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: no, its a feature of nvidia drivers.  For Kino to use my firewire device the program has to have full rights to /dev/raw1394. This can be accomplished by running Kino as sudo or chmodding /dev/raw1394. But i'm looking for a permanent solution
[03:46] <TechnoFan> nvidia
[03:46] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: its not unwanted - i use them both regulary
[03:46] <TechnoFan> but the ubuntu nvidia drivers
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: are dual screens working in X?
[03:46] <TechnoFan> not the nvidia nvidia drivers
[03:46] <TechnoFan> yes
[03:46] <TechnoFan> and i've configuret it in the xorg.conf
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: using what?
[03:47] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: by default, its using an ancient pci sound card - which i use for a headset & joystick port
[03:47] <TechnoFan> but the wrong screen is the primary screen
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: post your xorg.conf
[03:47] <daurn> but, i want default to be onboard - which is 6 channel and hooked up to speakers
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: you need to edit the udev configuration for that to work permanently.
[03:47] <TechnoFan> how can i post it?
[03:47] <TechnoFan> i don't want to spam
[03:48] <daurn> arg
[03:48] <bibulak> ahoj tak co jak ijete???
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: use a pastebin site.
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin
[03:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:48] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: now its worse than before
[03:48] <shylock> fyrestrtr:  here is the full errors when starting oo
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: time for me to restart  after my updtae...
[03:48] <harrisR> sorry, connection problems.. so, I cannot op myself if I use ircd-irc2 on my own server?
[03:48] <shylock> fyrestrtr:  get similar messege when trying to run any 3d game
[03:48] <bibulak> hal
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> bibulak: this is an English speaking channel. Please speak English.
[03:49] <bibulak> ok
[03:49] <TechnoFan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23990
[03:49] <harrisR> has anyone here ever set up a chat server?
[03:50] <TechnoFan> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23990
[03:50] <daurn> how do you find a pid?
[03:50] <CromagDK> ps aux
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: is your secondary monitor to the right of the primary one?
[03:50] <CromagDK> or ps
[03:51] <CromagDK> ps aux|grep blah
[03:51] <CromagDK> for specfik stuff
[03:51] <daurn> thanks
[03:51] <TechnoFan> jain, i want to use the one on the right side as primary
[03:51] <daurn> well
[03:51] <daurn> now
[03:51] <daurn> all my sound is going to the wrong soundcard
[03:51] <daurn> joy!
[03:51] <TechnoFan> but at the moment the one on the left side is primary
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: change "Rightof" to "Leftof"
[03:52] <RaggedJack> I can not get the sun jre to install I have uncommented the most of the extra things in the sources.list doing an sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre  the error I get it E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre everywhere I have looked says that this should work.
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: change "RightOf" to "LeftOf"
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> RaggedJack: run sudo apt-get update first.
[03:52] <TechnoFan> than the left is still primary but the screen on the right show the picture on the left of the other screen
[03:52] <RaggedJack> did that
[03:52] <CromagDK> RaggedJack: repos
[03:53] <CromagDK> multiverse universe
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> RaggedJack: enable universe and multiverse.
[03:53] <CromagDK> !java
[03:53] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:53] <TechnoFan> if i move the mouse to the left it returns on the right screen...
[03:53] <TechnoFan> clear?
[03:53] <CromagDK> in sources.list
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: sorry? You want the primary monitor to be on the right, correct?
[03:53] <CromagDK> then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[03:53] <terlmann> Nthdegree?
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> ahh .. got to go :)
[03:53] <TechnoFan> i want to have my flatscreen as primary
[03:54] <TechnoFan> but at the moment my crt is primary
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> hopefully someone else can help you -- cheers.
[03:54] <RaggedJack> the only 2 I don't have un commented are these # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:54] <RaggedJack> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:56] <Farine11i> Hello all!
[03:56] <CromagDK> RaggedJack: you need multiverse to
[03:56] <TeePOG> afternoon all
[03:57] <Marlun> Ok I've tried starting in safe graphics mode and changing the resolution with F4 before starting but the resolution is still at 640x480 and I want something more like 1680x1050. I can't install Ubuntu! =(
[03:57] <Z_God> how do I change the locale in ubuntu?
[03:57] <Z_God> dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't seem to work
[03:58] <bionoid> Z_God: apt-get install localeconf && localeconf
[03:59] <daurn> well
[03:59] <Farine11i> Someone have problem with gaim update, to login?
[03:59] <daurn> thanks ALOT jackSparrow, i now have no sound
[04:00] <daurn> thanks ALOT jackSparrow, i now have no sound
[04:00] <Farine11i> I tried to update gaim, after in beta version don't work... i remove, but now the 1.5 version send me a SSL error. How i can fix it?
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Just finished my reboot...
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: What exactly did you do?
[04:01] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: fix it!!!
[04:01] <daurn> the stuff in that guide
[04:01] <Z_God> bionoid: thanks a lot, that seems to have done the trick :)
[04:01] <kippi> hey
[04:01] <daurn> now, all sound is through the line out port of he soundcard i don't use
[04:01] <she_died> daurn needs to take a chill pill
[04:01] <daurn> and all the sound guis in ubuntu don't remeber changes
[04:02] <Tarnsman> I have a problem in dapper with kernel 2.6.15-27-686, it seems it's corrupting somehow my partition table
[04:02] <kippi> I am having real problems installing libicu28 could someone help me out?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: Post your gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf  to the pastebin
[04:02] <regx> i want to do somthing interesting/fun on linux :( but i cant think of anything
[04:02] <der0b> kippi, ask your questionm or explain the issue with as much detail as possible
[04:04] <daurn> http://pastebin.ca/176191
[04:05] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: reading now...
[04:06] <darinlh> Tarnsman, same issue here partion not loadable after upgrade
[04:06] <daurn> be quick :S - i'm trying to watch tv
[04:06] <kenkku> is there a way to force a greater resolution than the dialog has?
[04:06] <daurn> now without sound
[04:06] <daurn> - cept through my $1.50 earpice
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: I take it you already tried the default and went back and changed it ti mixer?
[04:06] <lesshaste>  how do I manually remove a folder from thunderbird? I seem to have a mail folder with no actual mail file associated with it
[04:06] <lesshaste>  so when I try to delete it it says it can't file the file to delete
[04:06] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[04:07] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: i also tried as 1
[04:07] <exmethix> hey guys
[04:07] <exmethix> i have a question
[04:07] <exmethix> i installed the k7 kernel
[04:07] <daurn> worse thing is that sound dialogues are disabled/don't remeber setting
[04:07] <exmethix> and now i have problems with my fglrx and other kernel depending programms
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: ls your etc/esound folder
[04:07] <daurn> i just want it back to how it was
[04:07] <kenkku> hmm
[04:07] <kenkku> how can I set the resolution manually?
[04:08] <exmethix> is it possible to take an other kernel jutst within the installation of ubuntu dapper?
[04:08] <daurn> ./etc/esound$ ls
[04:08] <daurn> esd.conf  esd.conf~
[04:08] <lilbit> how close is debian to ubuntu?  server wise
[04:08] <qmf> hi guys, i've got a bit of a problem after installing fglrx, anything that is pure white glitches
[04:08] <exmethix> i have not tried the alternate cd jet... ist it possible with it? i just used the desktop cd bevore
[04:08] <Samuli^> kenkku, preferences/screen resolution doesn't work?
[04:08] <kenkku> Samuli^: there's only default and a smaller one
[04:08] <lilbit> if I try and set up a debian server, will it almost be the same?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: the second one is your backup bafore you made changes.
[04:08] <lilbit> do you have to sudo in debian?
[04:09] <kenkku> and they're way too small to install (well, it's xubuntu but I need to have a bigger resolution anyway so thought you could help)
[04:09] <Samuli^> kenkku, you need to add modelines to your xorg.conf then.
[04:09] <kenkku> Samuli^: well, I'm running xubuntu.. I got some answers on the other channel though
[04:09] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: so what do i do?
[04:09] <Samuli^> kenkku, doesn't matter what you're running. the X is the same.
[04:09] <daurn> i need step by step
[04:10] <kenkku> Samuli^: ok. but I'm in the live cd environment, so..
[04:10] <Samuli^> kenkku, ah, ok.
[04:10] <kenkku> well, I'm trying something now
[04:10] <exmethix> does anydody have an idea?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: what did you have for your asound.conf
[04:11] <Samuli^> kenkku, hmm. I wonder if you can quit X dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then start X again in live-cd.
[04:11] <daurn> i need guide link again
[04:11] <scrp> sooo, is anyone good with samba ? :O i need to access a shared folder on a Windows box
[04:11] <Samuli^> kenkku, or just do that and modify the xorg.conf. I think it's loaded on a ram drive so it might just be possible.
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: ls etc and save a backup of your asound.conf~
[04:12] <darinlh> anyone else besides Tarnsman and I having an issue with partition tables after upgrade?
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: beofre you make any more changes
[04:12] <PacketScan> scrp, smbclient
[04:12] <bionoid> scrp: smbclient or mount
[04:12] <scrp> PacketScan: hmh i was trying to use smbmount
[04:12] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow:  before i had no asound.conf
[04:12] <PacketScan> scrp, did you specify the work group?
[04:12] <bionoid> scrp: there is no smbmount (is there?) - mount -t cifs -ousername=user,password=pass //server/folder /local/folder
[04:13] <Tarnsman> darinlh, I'm looking into udev log, the ide driver listed in /dev/.udev/failed/
[04:14] <Tarnsman> darinlh, which sort of HW do you have?
[04:14] <darinlh> Tarnsman, currently running fsck on my drive now and not seing anything I will check udev when it is done (huge drive)
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: I still wanted you to have a copy handy before changes.
[04:14] <scrp> PacketScan: mmh no :P
[04:14] <PacketScan> mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test
[04:15] <daurn> ok
[04:15] <daurn> don
[04:15] <daurn> now what?
[04:15] <scrp> PacketScan: i was trying something like, smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/c/downloads/ /mnt/unf
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: You have sound but only from your sline out from one of two sound cards..?
[04:15] <darinlh> Tarnsman, amd with two maxtor drives second is the failed one 200 gig ext2
[04:15] <scrp> PacketScan: but it always tells me that there is no share
[04:16] <daurn> correct
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: THe link I need is waiting for ubuntu wiki to update..
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: It will be a minute
[04:17] <daurn> :S
[04:17] <wikijeff> If I have a wireless interface and an ethernet interface, is there a way to tell Ubuntu to only use the wireless interface if the ethernet interface isn't connected or isn't working??
[04:17] <Tarnsman> ext2? thus isn't ext3, I have a compaq nx6110, I can't remember the disk vendor, however
[04:18] <Tarnsman> kernel says it's a "ST94813A, ATA DISK drive"
[04:18] <darinlh> Tarnsman, misquote, it is ext3
[04:18] <Tarnsman> ah ok
[04:18] <c0nfidencal> im back
[04:18] <c0nfidencal> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1448/debianht8.jpg
[04:18] <c0nfidencal> :\
[04:18] <c0nfidencal> doesnt help
[04:19] <darinlh> Tarnsman, typing on laptap :)   (good cover :)
[04:19] <Tarnsman> but I think is something lower-level
[04:19] <c0nfidencal> any ideas? ;>
[04:19] <der0b> scrp, so you have the C drive shared as c or are you trying to connect to a default/admin share?  if you're trying to connect to the admin share, it would be c$ not c
[04:20] <Tarnsman> I told you, first simptoms where beein slow in the 'mounting root filesystem'
[04:20] <scrp> der0b: im not trying to access the root (c:) just a folder on the network, like c:\downloads\
[04:20] <Tarnsman> and failing in "loading hardware drivers"
[04:20] <darinlh> Tarnsman, I did find reference to an old bug that mentions ro kernels and grub but fix didn't work for me
[04:20] <omar> Hello guys, I am pretty new in Linux. I have one machine in Linux and another in Windows, and I would like to connect them , with samba or something else useful. How to configure it  pls
[04:21] <wikijeff> Anyone?
[04:21] <der0b> scrp, so have you shared the c:\downloads folder?  if yes it would be //machineip/downloads (you don't need the c if you shared the downloads folder)
[04:21] <go_> hi. is there any tool in ubuntu, to tell me what kind of grafic card is installed in my computer?
[04:21] <c0nfidencal> go_ this is not ubuntu
[04:21] <c0nfidencal> read topic
[04:21] <Tarnsman> darinlh, could you share the reference? but if its old....
[04:21] <unplugd> I'm trying to start freeradius, but the first error that appears is: rlm_sql (sql): Make sure it (and all its dependent libraries) are in the search path of your system ld.
[04:21] <kippi> I am having real problems installing libicu28 could someone help me out?
[04:21] <Schamane> go_: just type lspci -v
[04:21] <darinlh> Tarnsman, that is what this one is reporting
[04:22] <darinlh> Tarnsman, one sec let me find it again
[04:22] <Tarnsman> well, share it anyway:)
[04:22] <c0nfidencal> any ideas about my non module loading netinstall cd? -> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1448/debianht8.jpg
[04:22] <c0nfidencal> :|
[04:22] <Tarnsman> ok
[04:22] <go_> Schamane: thanx!
[04:22] <bionoid> scrp: Can you access this shared folder from a different windows computer?
[04:22] <wikijeff> omar: go to nautilus (open up a folder) and type smb://windows.ip.address
[04:22] <Schamane> go_: no prob
[04:22] <Sanne> omar: found this for you, might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[04:22] <scrp> bionoid: yup
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: http://pastebin.ca/176198   is a new post
[04:23] <wikijeff> omar: make sure you have file sharing enabled on windows of course
[04:23] <GNAM> PYTHON 2.5 FINAL       O U T !!!
[04:23] <zmeiat_joro> Certainly a lot of peolpe with questions in here. I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a CD, and after I pick "Start or Install Ubuntu" the splash screen appears, does its thing, and then disappears, leaivng only a blinking cursor. Each time I've waited up to ten minutes for something to happen next. What could the problem be?
[04:23] <bionoid> scrp: mount -t cifs -o username=user,password=pass //<IP_ADDRESS>/folder_name /local/folder works every time I try it... (<IP_ADDRESS>, obviously, being the IP address of the machine with a shared folder.)
[04:23] <omar> wikijeff: what's nautilus
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: remove the asound you created.. but save the backup... still waiting for that page I want.
[04:24] <Schamane> zmeiat_joro: you can just do the cd test
[04:24] <der0b> zmeiat_joro, are you sure the media is good?  did you check the md5sums when you downloaded the iso?
[04:24] <zmeiat_joro> Schmane: the result is the same
[04:24] <bionoid> scrp: What Windows version are you sharing on?
[04:24] <scrp> bionoid: always the same error, running winxp
[04:24] <scrp> 14467: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[04:24] <scrp> SMB connection failed
[04:24] <Schamane> zmeiat_joro: seems like an burn failure
[04:24] <wikijeff> omar: the equivalent of explorer for linux, when you look at your files in a folder you're using nautilus
[04:25] <bionoid> scrp: Is there a space in the share name?
[04:25] <c0nfidencal> any ideas about my non module loading netinstall cd? -> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1448/debianht8.jpg ;|x
[04:25] <zmeiat_joro> hm, I'll check the iso again
[04:25] <scrp> bionoid: nop
[04:25] <scrp> bionoid: this is really weird
[04:26] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: whats the prob? it freezes?
[04:26] <c0nfidencal> yes
[04:26] <c0nfidencal> doesnt do anything ;x
[04:26] <wikijeff> omar: also checkout Sanne's link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[04:26] <Sanne> zmeiat_joro: another option is trying the alternate cd. It's not a live cd and comes with a text based installed, but it's also not difficult. Some people have more luck with this one.
[04:26] <jbirdAngel> Hello, the 2 things that i have found personally that are barriers to linux over windows, are legal multimedia, and understanding whats going on, on the surface i can figure things out, but then underneath i cant, like i know where to find something on windows, under C:/..../program files/... is there a tutorial somewhere that would help me to understand how linux works that part, like...
[04:26] <jbirdAngel> ...soemthing easy and not very long :)
[04:26] <der0b> scrp, can you browse the shares on the windows machine with nautilus?
[04:26] <darinlh> Tarnsman, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/21759
[04:26] <daurnimator> yay
[04:26] <scrp> der0b: nautilus?
[04:26] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow:  i fixed it by deleting asound.conf
[04:27] <Tarnsman> 10q darinlh
[04:27] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: that problem i had sometimes with interrupts
[04:27] <Tarnsman> reading
[04:27] <scrp> der0b: w00t a file explorer
[04:27] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, interrupts?
[04:27] <der0b> scrp, press alt+f2, in the box enter smb://<ipaddress>
[04:27] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: irq
[04:27] <daurnimator> oh
[04:27] <daurnimator> damn
[04:27] <usr78956> does the live cd have a text only install script or a verbose install so i can see where its failing i keep trying to install but it freezes at 69% i have been using mepis 6  live and installed works fine on it but i cant install ubuntu
[04:27] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow: i didn't
[04:27] <daurnimator> :P
[04:27] <c0nfidencal> how do i fix it
[04:27] <bionoid> scrp: Indeed that seems strange.. For the sake of testing, did you disable the windows firewall?
[04:28] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: how much ide drives are built in?
[04:28] <der0b> scrp, replace <ipaddress> with the ip of the windows machine.  if all goes well, you should be able to see the shared folders on the win box
[04:28] <c0nfidencal> hm
[04:28] <c0nfidencal> built in or using?
[04:28] <Schamane> built in
[04:28] <c0nfidencal> sec
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> daurnimator: See the link to a new http://pastebin.ca/176198
[04:28] <Schamane> and using
[04:28] <Tarnsman> darinlh, I fail to see how's related to my problem...
[04:29] <scrp> der0b: hah!
[04:29] <scrp> der0b: well i see the share now, in nautilus
[04:29] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow: whats different?
[04:29] <scrp> der0b: just took a long time to run
[04:29] <der0b> scrp, what's it called?
[04:29] <scrp> der0b: called mp3..
[04:29] <der0b> scrp, now mount that share :)
[04:29] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, i dunno if this is what u asked for, but "- Can connect up to 4 IDE devices"
[04:30] <c0nfidencal> guess not
[04:30] <scrp> der0b: thanks mate :)
[04:30] <c0nfidencal> and im using only 1 :) dvdrw..
[04:30] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: and how much ARE connected?
[04:30] <scrp> der0b: one question, is there no way to get rid of the password prompt when using smbmount ?
[04:30] <Schamane> how is your hdd connected?
[04:30] <c0nfidencal> 2x sata 2 hdd's
[04:30] <c0nfidencal> ehum
[04:30] <Schamane> hm
[04:31] <c0nfidencal> no raid
[04:31] <Schamane> can you put the dvdrw on the other ide port for testings?
[04:31] <c0nfidencal> hm
[04:31] <der0b> scrp, no prob, glad to help..  I would mount with 'sudo mount -t cifs //ip/mp3 /mount/point -o guest'
[04:31] <c0nfidencal> u think it can help? :x
[04:32] <der0b> scrp, if the share is set to allow guest access the mount command I just entered will get you goin
[04:32] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: im not sure, i would just connect as less as possible and change the ports
[04:32] <Schamane> if it still doesnt work, i would try to play around with the irq and interrupt in BIOS
[04:32] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, yes, i can.. but dunno if it will help :(
[04:32] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, all other linux distro's i used so far - no problem
[04:33] <der0b> scrp, in case you're interested, cifs is similar to smbfs but superior
[04:33] <c0nfidencal> no problems*
[04:33] <jbirdAngel> is the last example (3) at http://effbot.org/librarybook/ftplib.htm really a full rogram for uploadding files? seems too short, too easy :)
[04:33] <Schamane> just one dvdrw and one hdd should be enough
[04:33] <jbirdAngel> oops
[04:33] <jbirdAngel> wrong room
[04:33] <jbirdAngel> sorry
[04:33] <scrp> der0b: i see :)
[04:33] <scrp> der0b: but the password prompt always comes back
[04:33] <c0nfidencal> not enough :) second one is for storage
[04:33] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow:  ??? you there?
[04:33] <c0nfidencal> wait a sec
[04:33] <robby> !w32codec
[04:33] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: i had this prob with an thin client at work
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <c0nfidencal> ill try take a screen of my case
[04:33] <c0nfidencal> might help somehow ^^
[04:33] <robby> !restricted
[04:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:34] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: does the cd work on other pc?
[04:34] <c0nfidencal> i dont have other pc
[04:34] <Schamane> hm
[04:34] <c0nfidencal> :x
[04:34] <robby> yarr me mateys
[04:34] <der0b> scrp, do you have control over the windows machine?  if yes, you can change the share so that guests have access (only do this if you know nobody is going to be mucking about on your private network)
[04:34] <Tarnsman> darinlh? still there?
[04:35] <sonium> my LVM doesn't work anymore with kernel*27
[04:35] <KenSentMe> jbirdAngel: for an introduction to linux you can look here at the filsystem structure: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview and at http://help.ubuntu.com for more info on doing things on ubuntu
[04:35] <AndroidData> hello. how do I find out which files are taking up the most space on my HD?
[04:35] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, sec.. 2 pics comming up soon :)
[04:35] <sonium> does anyone else have the same problem?
[04:35] <Alan__> Is there any good groupware apps with good guides for installing on ubuntu?
[04:35] <scrp> Ubuntu rules.
[04:35] <Alan__> by apps i mean server side
[04:35] <jbirdAngel> KenSentMe: thanks
[04:35] <scrp> only thing Linux needs now is more games published for it
[04:36] <Schamane> scrp: ack
[04:36] <KenSentMe> jbirdAngel: also the wiki on http://wiki.ubuntu.com has a lot of info
[04:36] <Tarnsman> sonium, similar problem (may be) here
[04:36] <darinlh> Tarnsman, yes still trying to find  an answer
[04:36] <AndroidData> if you can get BYOND running on it you have lots of games
[04:36] <AndroidData> and you can make your own
[04:36] <scrp> Schamane: it has to be done so the rest of the world can stop using Wintendo
[04:36] <AndroidData> but it's very difficult and often does not work
[04:36] <Schamane> AndroidData: and it sucks
[04:36] <jbirdAngel> KenSentMe: okay thanks
[04:37] <AndroidData> aww
[04:37] <AndroidData> have a heart! ^.^
[04:37] <darinlh> Tarnsman, this is my primary work box needs to be up
[04:37] <AndroidData> <_< how do I check the top 10 files with the most size?
[04:37] <Tarnsman> same problem here darinlh
[04:37] <mcfly2> writes to my thumb drive are lost when the thumb drive is pulled and reinserted, any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[04:37] <Tarnsman> I also would like to recover data lost on a previous HD
[04:37] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, hdd's connected correctly, right? -> http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5039/debiansbt3.jpg
[04:38] <Bonaldo2000> can anyone help me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259609
[04:38] <dhloc> someone speak italian?
[04:38] <AndroidData> is there any way of resizing a partition without destroying the files on it?
[04:38] <Tarnsman> io dhloc
[04:38] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: thats not the problem if i talk about irq an interrupts
[04:38] <sonium> AndroidData: depends on the partition type
[04:38] <c0nfidencal> anywayz..
[04:38] <c0nfidencal> eh
[04:38] <idefix_> did you ever encounter this? you minimize a window and it goes to the bottom right somewhere in your panel and you cannot select it anymore, what's wrong?
[04:38] <mcfly2> any files moved to my thumb drive disappear when the drive is pulled and reinserted, any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[04:38] <darinlh> Tarnsman, check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-185396.html
[04:39] <omar> der0b: hello , I was reading what you talk to scrp, I am trying to open a sharing folder in windows, but the msg in Alt-F2 is "folder not found
[04:39] <idefix_> please help me!
[04:39] <sonium> AndroidData: check out gparted
[04:39] <der0b> omar, what exactly did you enter in the run box?
[04:40] <omar> smb://<IP_ADDRESS>
[04:40] <scrp> omar: the trick was to skip the full path, i.e. i was sharing c:\downloads\mp3 so instead of typing mount -t cifs //ip/c/downloads/mp3  i type, mount -t cifs //ip/mp3
[04:40] <kenkku> anyone have any idea how I could force a resolution
[04:40] <omar> der0b: smb://<IP_ADDRESS>
[04:40] <fredl> hi guys, I installed network-manager/network-manager-gnome but it does not see any of my network interfaces. Does this need extra configuration??
[04:40] <der0b> omar, and nothing came up at all?  what was the exact error?
[04:40] <fredl> I mean, I use an aironet, if it can't even detect that automatically, what good is it??
[04:40] <omar> der0b: El archivo o carpeta smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/ no existe.
[04:40] <zaggynl> hamachi isn't in the rep? :(
[04:41] <omar> der0b: the file or directory doen's exist
[04:41] <der0b> omar, do you have admin access to the windows machine?  if yes, the first step is to temporarily disable the windows firewall
[04:41] <idefix_> normally your apps are supposed to appear somewhere in the panel, no?
[04:42] <darinlh> Tarnsman, do you have two hd's connected to motherboard on same cable?
[04:42] <idefix_> what could be the reason they're gone?
[04:42] <fredl> anybody here using network-manager on a laptop with wireless card?
[04:42] <omar> der0b: I did it and I have still the error
[04:42] <Bonaldo2000> Please help! How come I have to enable/disable my ntfs harddisks when using ntfs-3g to get it to read filenames with danish letters?
[04:42] <Tarnsman> no darinlh, I told you, it's a laptop
[04:42] <Bonaldo2000> disable/enable I mean
[04:42] <Tarnsman> only one hd
[04:43] <Tarnsman> there is a cd driver on the same cable however
[04:43] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow: ???
[04:43] <der0b> omar, on the windows machine, if you enter \\<IP_ADDRESS> into the run box, what happens?
[04:43] <darinlh> Tarnsman, sorry must have missed that
[04:44] <mcfly2> \quit
[04:44] <Tarnsman> never mind darinlh, mee to I'mlooking to doc, besides irc
[04:44] <reinhard__> hello, could someone help me, changing the heartrate (frequency) that ist used during the login (gdmscreen)?
[04:44] <darinlh> Tarnsman, I will try to switch assignments on my box and see if that fixes it, brb
[04:45] <HeppyCat> good morning channel
[04:45] <reinhard__> after logging in i am able to change it thats fine, but i like the frequency also be used in gdm
[04:45] <reinhard__> i use dapper
[04:46] <scrp> jesus what would i do without VLC player :)
[04:46] <fredl> Hrmm
[04:46] <Alan__> take that as a no then
[04:46] <der0b> scrp, you'd use mplayer :P
[04:46] <Justy> all: hello
[04:46] <scrp> der0b: im trying to play some mp3s using the default players in ubuntu
[04:46] <scrp> der0b: totally not going well
[04:46] <der0b> omar you still around?
[04:46] <codecaine> When I play games like nessus on ubuntu my refresh rate is not 60 and I get invalid refreshrate warning box on my screen
[04:47] <der0b> what's happening scrp?
[04:47] <Mjolinor> got a modules problem. Ubuntu updated this morning and the last few days I spent getting lirc to work
[04:47] <codecaine> anybody know how to get it so its the refresh rate as my desktop?
[04:47] <scrp> der0b: says might be a problem with decoders or something
[04:47] <Mjolinor> . the lirc modules are in /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-686/misc and now my modules are in /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-686 with no misc directory and I can't find the modules so lirc doesnt work.
[04:47] <Justy> I have deleted my wirless driver somehow with mistake unfortunately
[04:47] <der0b> scrp, have you followed the restrictedformats page on the ubuntu wiki?
[04:47] <Justy> From where and how can I install my driver?
[04:47] <Mjolinor> how do I point it at the modules, copying them to the -27 directory doesnt work
[04:47] <AndroidData> I think this is is a computer wioth a 512 RAM card into it. I have two 256 MB RAM cards.
[04:47] <omar> der0b: yes , I see everything shared
[04:47] <Justy> Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG
[04:47] <scrp> der0b: nop, maybe i should, aye? :)
[04:48] <NET||abuse> anyone know the difference between the drivers "ati" and "radeon" ???
[04:48] <AndroidData> I'd like to up this to 1024 if possible. Would it be wise?
[04:48] <livre> existe alguem que fale portugues ai
[04:48] <scrp> der0b: i havent read anything about ubuntu yet, just trying to get used to this new enviroment
[04:48] <scrp> der0b: actually this is my first time running X in linux overall, lol
[04:48] <der0b> scrp, go for it!  you get some nice experience with the command line, you get everything you need for multimedia installed and you'll be happy
[04:48] <PMantis> I have an HP Pavilion laptop.. fairly new. with Dapper on it, the battery sometimes says "98%, 5 minutes left" or "98%, 42 hours, 18 minutes left"... the time estimate is WAAAAAAY off most of the time. What gives?
[04:48] <Justy> NET||abuse : radeon is a model of ati
[04:48] <scrp> der0b: i used to run Gentoo on all my boxes, usually as servers only
[04:48] <Justy> all: hello
[04:48] <Justy> I have deleted my wirless driver somehow with mistake unfortunately
[04:48] <Justy> From where and how can I install my driver?
[04:48] <Justy> Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG
[04:49] <scrp> der0b: well, i wish i had my command line :(
[04:49] <NET||abuse> Justy: yeh, i know the model name, but the drivers seem to work equally well with no change other thant he driver directive in my conf file.. do the driver names have any bareing?
[04:49] <scrp> der0b: my consoles are gone blank, and *nobody* knows why
[04:49] <livre> fala ia renato
[04:49] <zax1> is there a thunderbird channel on freenode
[04:49] <scrp> der0b: but where is that guide you speak of :o
[04:49] <Justy> NET||abuse: sorry i am a newbie ...
[04:49] <der0b> ok Omar, you really seem to be having a firewall problem.  if you can see that shares from the local machine but not from the network that's all I can tell you..  you need to allow for file and printer sharing in xp
[04:49] <Justy> NET||abuse: i cant help you
[04:49] <NET||abuse> Justy: :) no worries mate :)
[04:49] <der0b> one sec scrp
[04:49] <Justy> lol
[04:50] <Justy> all: hello
[04:50] <Justy> I have deleted my wirless driver somehow with mistake unfortunately
[04:50] <Justy> From where and how can I install my driver?
[04:50] <der0b> !restricted
[04:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <Justy> Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG
[04:50] <NET||abuse> Justy: umm, try fixing the driver package?
[04:50] <der0b> scrp, you see that?
[04:50] <Justy> NET||abuse: how?
[04:50] <Carlosh> Hello. I have a problem. I don't actually know is it's system's bug or xmms's. So. I think that the the video lags a bit compared to sound. It actually very well can be seen with xmms's visualition. Do you tink this is a Ubuntu or xmmm's problem?
[04:50] <Justy> NET||abuse: as i said so :) i am a newbie
[04:51] <omar> der0b: I opened a file, thanx, but I wanna share files, I mean I wanna move some files to that machine, but is working
[04:51] <NET||abuse> Justy: well you have the machine on network access over hardwire for now yeh?#
[04:52] <Justy> NET||abuse: yes i am on an network via LAN which has an access to internet
[04:52] <NET||abuse> Justy: you should be able to repair the pacakge, or else purge it and re-instsall
[04:52] <Justy> NET||abuse: ok, but how =)
[04:52] <der0b> omar, so you want to create a share on the ubuntu machine?
[04:52] <NET||abuse> dpkg -l | grep wireless
[04:52] <NET||abuse> find the exact name of hte drivers package
[04:52] <der0b> scrp, you still here?
[04:53] <NET||abuse> then dpkg --purge <package name>
[04:53] <omar> der0b: I wanna move my files to the windows shared directory
[04:53] <NET||abuse> then reinstall it, with sudo apt-get install <package name>
[04:53] <scrp> der0b: yea, sorry was afk a bit
[04:53] <PM1> i would like to install the latest kernel for dapper. can i install the latest kernel edgy has?
[04:53] <scrp> ah, i saw that, from ubotu
[04:53] <scrp> der0b: thanks mate
[04:53] <moon-xsp> hi try it
[04:53] <der0b> scrp, alt+f2, enter gnome-terminal,
[04:53] <der0b> (no comma)
[04:53] <ubuntu> hi guys
[04:54] <der0b> so omar, you can see the windows shares now?
[04:54] <Justy> NET||abuse, there is "wireless-tools"  : Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extens
[04:54] <Justy> NET||abuse,  as it says so
[04:54] <Justy> NET||abuse, and wlassistant
[04:54] <ubuntu> any1 here tried setting up snort here/
[04:54] <fredl> how does NetworkManager get started up? I don't find it in any rc files
[04:54] <NET||abuse> Justy: nah, they're not the drivers
[04:54] <omar> der0b: Not, I can open a specific file , but I can't see anything
[04:54] <scrp> der0b: yea i can open terminals, but what i really want is my consoles
[04:54] <NET||abuse> try dpkg -l | grep intel
[04:54] <omar> yet
[04:55] <ubuntu> fredl,  /etc/init.d/networking ??
[04:55] <Justy> PPP dialer... :(
[04:55] <scrp> der0b: like, (CTRL)ALT+F1...F2 etc
[04:55] <der0b> scrp, ctrl+alt+f1 not working?
[04:55] <NET||abuse> hmm, not sure, look up in google, ubuntu intel <your chipset name>
[04:55] <fredl> ubuntu, nope. The NetworkManager daemon
[04:55] <scrp> der0b: it "works," but gives me a blank screen
[04:55] <der0b> odd
[04:55] <NET||abuse> Justy: i'm afraid i've not worked with the intel wireless chip set at all
[04:55] <scrp> der0b: i can even login THROUGH the blank screen, but i dont see anything
[04:55] <ubuntu> fredl,  try this , as rot type network-admin
[04:55] <scrp> der0b: odd indeed, nobody knows why lol
[04:56] <ubuntu> root*
[04:56] <fredl> ubuntu, network-manager, not network-admin :)
[04:56] <der0b> omar, you can open a file from the windows share but you can't view the windows shares in nautilus?
[04:56] <fredl> ubuntu, network-manager is supposed to automatically detect wireless networks.
[04:56] <ubuntu> i know
[04:57] <omar> der0b: But I need to move some files to the shared windows folder
[04:57] <HeppyCat> hello Nixer
[04:57] <fredl> ubuntu, ok, sorry for misunderstanding you then, lemme start up network-admion
[04:58] <der0b> omar, I first need to understand how you're opening a file in the windows share without being able to see it (via nautilus or the command line)
[04:58] <fredl> ubuntu, so where in network-admin do I find anything about how NetworkManager is started up?
[04:58] <Alan__> is egroupware any good?
[04:58] <ubuntu> u just have to enable ur wifi right?
[04:58] <silent_scream> hi i downloaded a firefox icon theme and it is in .jar format.. so haw can i install it?
[04:58] <omar> der0b: I write this: smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/trc/usando-samba.pdf
[04:58] <ubuntu> do u see ur connection there?
[04:58] <Alan__> any ubuntu dapper install guides for it?
[04:58] <PMantis> Justy, Try: dpkg -S ipw2200.ko
[04:58] <scrp> fredl: is there any way to make ubuntu detect my wireless card? :o
[04:58] <ubuntu> Alan__,  for what/
[04:58] <zmo> hi
[04:58] <Alan__> egroupware
[04:58] <fredl> ubuntu, yes I do. that's been there forever. But it doesn't mention anything about network-manager
[04:59] <zmo> how can I change what I control with the keyboard shortcut increase/decrease/mute volume ?
[04:59] <fredl> scrp, dunno, what card do you have?
[04:59] <ubuntu> fredl,  clik on ur connection, there and choose activate
[04:59] <zmo> the shorcut works right, but on the wrong soundcard's mixer
[04:59] <diabl1> how to start service dns?
[04:59] <der0b> ok omar, have you tried mounting (mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc /mount/point) that share?
[04:59] <Justy> PMantis, thanks for help :). it worked and printed those outputs
[04:59] <zmo> and I dunno what manages it
[05:00] <der0b> omar, you need to add a sudo to that command
[05:00] <fredl> ubuntu, I know, I'm talking over the connection right now. I think you're misunderstanding me...
[05:00] <Justy> PMantis, linux-image-2.6.15-26-386: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko
[05:00] <Justy> PMantis, linux-image-2.6.15-27-386: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko
[05:00] <ubuntu> i guess, i'm sorry
[05:00] <PMantis> Justy, Whoah, holdon... :)
[05:00] <ubuntu> :(
[05:00] <Justy> PMantis, lol =)
[05:00] <PMantis> Justy, Only twolines of output?
[05:00] <Justy> PMantis, yes those 2 lines i typed above
[05:01] <fredl> ubuntu, my aironet card works fine, there's no problem there. But recently some news has been released about network-manager, I guess it's a tool that comes from Fedora. It should detect multiple wireless networks and give you a choice which one to connect to
[05:01] <calamari> hi
[05:01] <diabl1> I need help with dns
[05:01] <PMantis> Justy, ok, try: apt-get --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[05:01] <fredl> ubuntu, don't worry about it :) you try :)
[05:01] <silent_scream> how do i force terminate amsn ?? ? ?? ? ??
[05:01] <darinlh> anyone know what patches/upgrades went out yesterday?
[05:01] <zaggynl> anyone familiar with getting hamachi to work?
[05:01] <diabl1> howto start service dns?
[05:01] <ubuntu> fredl,  i dont think there is anything like network -manager on ubuntu
[05:01] <ubuntu> just network-admin to setup ur connection
[05:01] <fredl> ubuntu, yes there is :) apt-get install network-manager
[05:02] <Justy> PMantis, are you sure the syntax is correct?
[05:02] <ubuntu> aah ok
[05:02] <ubuntu> let me chk, thanks
[05:02] <Justy> PMantis, the output is E: Invalid operation linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[05:02] <fredl> ubuntu, it actually starts up a daemon called NetworkManager and it listens to wireless interface (as well as wired interfaces for that matter) for network SID's
[05:02] <calamari> I've installed ubuntu on my dad's computer, he loves it, but he also likes DOS, and he would like to boot into DOS then load linux from there.  Can loadlin be used to boot ubuntu?  Anyone done this?
[05:03] <PMantis> Justy, Ahh, sorry... try: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[05:03] <ubuntu> calamari,  u mean like dualboot?
[05:03] <der0b>  Justy sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[05:03] <fredl> ubuntu, problem is that the NetworkManager daemon doesn't see my card :/
[05:03] <omar> der0b: I worte my home/user folder and I can't see my old files, eventhough I see the shared folder
[05:03] <calamari> ubuntu: nope
[05:03] <Justy> PMantis, when i try sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-27-386, the output is "linux-image-2.6.15-27-386 is already the newest version.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[05:03] <omar> der0b: How to unmount
[05:03] <ubuntu> fredl,  i c
[05:03] <fredl> ubuntu, despite it being an aironet card.
[05:03] <PMantis> Justy, Oh, right... might need sudo. lol... I just usually sudo to root before doting anyhting.
[05:03] <ubuntu> fredl, ndiswraooer?
[05:04] <Justy> PMantis,  lol =)
[05:04] <ubuntu> ndiswrapper*
[05:04] <der0b> omar, sudo umount //<ip>/trc
[05:04] <fredl> ubuntu, no, the aironet is recognized natively by Linux
[05:04] <PMantis> Justy, You last command needed the --reinstall added.
[05:04] <Justy> PMantis, it now finished proccessing
[05:04] <calamari> ubuntu: there is a program called loadlin.exe that can boot a kernel.. but I've never tried it with Ubuntu and wanted to see if it would even work
[05:04] <fredl> ubuntu, which was a good reason to purchase it.
[05:04] <ubuntu> if it wont, y not give that a try?
[05:04] <silent_scream> hi i downloaded a firefox icon theme and it is in .jar format.. so haw can i install it?
[05:04] <Davo_Dinkum> bye
[05:04] <Justy> PMantis, and a pop-up! " you need to restart system"
[05:04] <Justy> PMantis, and others :) thanks!
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> calamari: we have dosemu
[05:04] <PMantis> Justy, Try: modprobe ipw2200
[05:04] <Justy> PMantis, hope it will work lol
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !dosemu
[05:05] <ubuntu> calamari, oh ok, never played with it
[05:05] <ubotu> dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-3build1 (dapper), package size 877 kB, installed size 2024 kB
[05:05] <ubuntu> sorry
[05:05] <der0b> omar, to mount it to your home folder /trc do this: mkdir ~/trc, then sudo mount -t cifs //<ip>/trc /home/<username>/trc
[05:05] <omar> der0b:  umount //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc
[05:05] <Justy> PMantis, yay worked!
[05:05] <calamari> Jack_Sparrow: hehe.. he wants to boot into DOS first, because it boots very fast and he can instantly run his dos apps
[05:05] <der0b> omar, yes, but sudo that
[05:05] <PMantis> Justy, :-D
[05:05] <omar> der0b:  I did that and it works, but my old files are not there anymore???
[05:05] <Ropechoborra> I want to add a new user that only has access to his own home.. how can i do?
[05:06] <calamari> never mind.. I'll just experiment with it and see if I can get it to work
[05:06] <Justy> PMantis, now let's solve my WPA problem =)
[05:06] <PMantis> hah
[05:06] <PMantis> Justy, try network-manager... worked great for me
[05:06] <ubuntu> PMantis, ur good :)
[05:06] <der0b> go to a command line, enter cd /tmp, then umount the share and check your home folder again
[05:06] <der0b> omar, go to a command line, enter cd /tmp, then umount the share and check your home folder again
[05:06] <Justy> doesn't for me :( it just shows LAN
[05:06] <scrp> yea, error trying to install gstreamer-ugly-multiverse
[05:06] <codecaine> how can you install windows appz on ubuntu?
[05:07] <Justy> but anyways i will reisntall nm and restart
[05:07] <codecaine> that uses a installer
[05:07] <PMantis> wpa-supplicant without network-manager is a pain
[05:07] <ubuntu> codecaine,  wine?
[05:07] <Justy> wpa-supp is also installed
[05:07] <codecaine> wine just execute a program
[05:07] <Justy> PMantis, brb =)
[05:07] <PMantis> Justy, Try to restart dbus, then see if network manager sees wireless
[05:07] <Justy> PMantis, how?
[05:07] <philip> codecaine, wine will install it too
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> calamari: My Ubuntu boots up in 60 seconds and that includes my login and password... But I guess that is too long for some people to wait..
[05:07] <codecaine> hmm
[05:07] <Justy> PMantis, sorry i am so new
[05:07] <PMantis> Justy, sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[05:07] <justin_> codecaine: go to winehq first, and see if the app even works in WINE, not all windows apps work in wine.. -- some do, some sorta of do -- and a lot don't.
[05:08] <calamari> Jack_Sparrow: yep.. it takes about 5 minutes on his p3 600MHz
[05:08] <PMantis> Justy, But at this point, a reboot might just be better.
[05:08] <ubuntu> ubuntu is a bit heavy
[05:08] <omar> der0b:  umount //<ip>/trc
[05:08] <ubuntu> no doubt about that
[05:08] <PMantis> Justy, Since that little "you need to reboot" nag is there from the kernel reinstall
[05:08] <scrp> If i had my wireless button on my laptop turned OFF, then Ubuntu doesnt detect it during installation i assume, so how would i make ubuntu find my wireless now ?
[05:08] <der0b> yes omar, but be in /tmp when you issue the command
[05:08] <daurnimator> can i get some personal help/aid with mounting an ntfs volume?
[05:08] <omar> der0b:  my old files are gonne
[05:08] <daurnimator> anyone?
[05:09] <Justy> PMantis, what is the command to restart any service ?
[05:09] <philip> codecaine, what windows apps do you use that you can't find an FOSS equiv for?
[05:09] <calamari> daurnimator: why don't you want public help?
[05:09] <omar> der0b:  I did this: root@omar:/tmp# umount //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc
[05:09] <PMantis> ubuntu, thanks... really just a novice jack of all trades
[05:09] <justin_> calamari: 5 minutes? are you serious? --- how much ram does he have?
[05:09] <calamari> justin_: 256mb
[05:09] <ubuntu> PMantis, yw
[05:09] <PMantis> Justy, Usually /etc/init.d/<service name> restart
[05:09] <omar> der0b:  I get this:unmount error 16 = Device or resource busy
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> daurnimator: I would suggest the diskmounter script... but editing fstab manually works too
[05:09] <justin_> calamari: My second machine is a PIII 650 256MB and it boots in 30 seconds :D
[05:09] <daurnimator> calamari: cause everytime i've tried public before, its been lost in logs - and taken upto 6 hours a time and gotten nowhere
[05:09] <calamari> justin_: wish I knew how you accomplished that
[05:09] <justin_> calamari: Get him on Xubuntu, its so similar he wont notice much difference hehe :)
[05:09] <PMantis> Justy, Did you use to use Red Hat?
[05:09] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow: more complicated than that
[05:10] <calamari> justin_: yeah he is on xubuntu :)
[05:10] <Justy> PMantis, ew didn't work for netw.man ... No i didnt use
[05:10] <der0b> omar, you have something holding the mount open.  that's all this is (that's why I wanted you to go to /tmp).  your files are not gone, we just need to get that unmounted
[05:10] <omar> der0b: did I erase my files?
[05:10] <justin_> calamari: Are you serious? --- wow... - is he PC a clone or namebrand?
[05:10] <der0b> omar, no
[05:10] <Justy> PMantis, it is my first experience on Linux with ubuntu
[05:10] <codecaine> is there a way to uninstall a unsuccessl window program on wine?
[05:10] <der0b> omar, close all of the terminal and naultilus windows you have open
[05:10] <ubuntu> justy ur doing just fine, give ur self a break
[05:10] <justin_> calamari: Mine is a Compaq Deskpro, perhaps.. they are a little faster since they are designed perfectly to work with everything.
[05:10] <calamari> justin_: it's an old Dell
[05:11] <daurnimator> so
[05:11] <philip> codecaine, delete the app's folder
[05:11] <daurnimator> can anyone help me out?
[05:11] <der0b> omar, then open 1 terminal window and cd /tmp, then umount the share
[05:11] <justin_> calamari: Ok, that exaplains it :) welcome to dell hell :P
[05:11] <Justy> ubuntu, what do you mean? i need wpa in my laptop
[05:11] <daurnimator> expert on partitions & sata drivers prefered
[05:11] <calamari> daurnimator: did you have a specific question?
[05:11] <PMantis> Justy, The Network Manager service is controlled by DBUS, and the nm-applet (the icon you use) is loaded whe you login. This icon will likely crash when you restart dbus. To simplify, just reboot.
[05:11] <roberts> Hmm, I'm tring to enable dapper-backports in my sources.list, and it worked for main, but then I tried to enable it for Universe as well and nothing is showing up for upgrade (aside from the five or so that are in main).
[05:11] <ubuntu> what i mean is , we all learn , we all start somewhere, chil out
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> daurnimator: If it is more complicated than a simple mount, maybe you should explain what exactly you are trying to do.
[05:12] <Justy> PMantis, lol ok =) brb and sorry for disturb
[05:12] <PMantis> Justy, NP
[05:12] <ubuntu> daurnimator, hello
[05:12] <ubuntu> whats up?
[05:12] <calamari> justin_: it's fine.. dos boots instantly.. in fact it is booted before the monitor finishes warming up :)
[05:12] <PMantis> BTW, anyone know why Dapper power management comes up with *outrageous* battery life estimates?
[05:12] <daurnimator> ok, i have a jbod array with 2 drives - i can mount the first partition (because its entirely on the first drive), but the second needs the 2 drives put together
[05:12] <daurnimator> - how do i do it?
[05:12] <ubuntu> wb fred1
[05:12] <fredl> anybody else here using network-manager?
[05:13] <PMantis> fredl, I am
[05:13] <qmf> http://starqmf.com/Screenshot.png < can anyone help me with this? i installed fglrx. i'm running xgl and compiz not that it should make much diff.
[05:13] <roberts> fredl: Ask your question please.
[05:13] <daurnimator> previously i've been led around with mdadm - maybe that'll tell you guys something
[05:13] <fredl> PMantis, so it works for you? wireless or wired?
[05:13] <PMantis> fredl, both
[05:13] <hydrozen> Is the ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 known to work under linux? I tried a couple of how-tos and everytime X doesn't want to start anymore...
[05:14] <PMantis> fredl, need a supported wirelss card, though... not sure if it'll work with NDIS-wrapper
[05:14] <fredl> PMantis, so after you apt-get install network-manager/network-manager-gnome, did it work pretyt much automatically for you or is there stuff you need to configure?
[05:14] <PMantis> fredl, Auto for me, with Intel 2200 based chip
[05:14] <fredl> PMantis, I have an aironet 350, which is supported natively by Linux but I dunno if network-manager does.
[05:14] <codecaine> yes philip
[05:15] <justin_> How do I bring down, and restart gdm in Ubuntu? --- gdm-stop, gdm-restart / do not seem to work...
[05:15] <PMantis> Justy, Welcome back
[05:15] <fredl> PMantis, even saw it on the supported hardware list for network-manager, but no go. I'm also having an extremely hard time figuring out how the server process is even started up
[05:15] <Justy> PMantis, thanks very much =)
[05:15] <ubuntu> justin_,   /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:15] <fredl>  /etc/init.d/gdm stop/start
[05:15] <justin_> ubuntu: :)
[05:16] <PMantis> fredl, Don't do this in a gnome terminal, though.
[05:16] <PMantis> :)
[05:16] <ubuntu> justin_,  :)
[05:16] <PMantis> Justy, You're welcome!
[05:16] <fredl> PMantis, do you happen to know if the dbus server process starts up NetworkManager?
[05:16] <daurnimator> hello?
[05:16] <silent_scream> hi i downloaded a firefox icon theme and it is in .jar format.. so how can i install it?
[05:16] <daurnimator> anyone?
[05:16] <daurnimator> - see, thats the problem, i get lost in backlog
[05:16] <PMantis> fredl, Yes, it does
[05:17] <fredl> PMantis, aha. So by shooting down the dbus process I'll also get rid of the NetworkManager daemon then?
[05:17] <Justy> PMantis,  network-manager says: "No network device found" ...
[05:17] <scrp> is it normal not to see mplayer when doing apt-cache search ?
[05:17] <fredl> Justy, yours too huh? what kind of card do you have?
[05:17] <justin_> Nope, ubuntu that does not work either it always --- fails*, seems that whenever my X dies (usually when im playing or messing around with PSX emulation) it will never come back... but with a solid reboot.
[05:17] <lwells> I am getting the message "cannot execute binary file", not sure what that means
[05:17] <Bonez56> scrp, it should show up, it does on mine
[05:17] <Justy> fredl, Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG
[05:17] <ubuntu> bbl guys
[05:17] <ubuntu> tc
[05:17] <scrp> Bonez56:  all i see is kmplayer ?
[05:18] <Bonez56> scrp, check your repos
[05:18] <fredl> Justy, hmm, that according to the NetworkManager page one of the best supported cards I believe.
[05:18] <lwells> Anyone ever try to run "Synergy"?
[05:18] <PMantis> Justy, See anything with: sudo ifconfig  ?
[05:18] <PMantis> fredl, Yes. the daemon will shut down with dbus
[05:18] <fredl> isn't NetworkManager in universe?
[05:18] <der0b> !multiverse
[05:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:18] <scrp> so where is my mplayer!
[05:18] <codecaine> when running a 3d game why does the refreshrate change then what you use for ur desktop?
[05:18] <Justy> PMantis,  eth0 eth1 and lo
[05:18] <der0b> scrp, check out that multivers thingy ubotu just posted
[05:19] <Justy> PMantis, eth1 is wireless
[05:19] <PMantis> Justy, Hmmmm, should work
[05:19] <hydrozen> Is the ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 known to work under linux? I tried a couple of how-tos and everytime X doesn't want to start anymore...
[05:19] <silent_scream> how do i force terminate amsn ??
[05:19] <PMantis> Justy, Try: sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[05:20] <Kuprin> Hey all - I'm having a really odd package management issue. One package, which one I'm not sure, is failing to be installed and properly configured. Nothing else seems to be failing.
[05:20] <der0b> silent_scream, is that a terminal app or an xwin app?
[05:20] <scrp> silent_scream: kill `ps x | grep amsn | awk {print $2}'`
[05:20] <scrp> silent_scream: or something
[05:21] <justin_> For future people who run into the problem of X freezing, you must --- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop --- then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start || You must sudo for start though :)
[05:21] <fredl> PMantis, gadzook, another startup mechanism to learn with dbus :P
[05:21] <Justy> PMantis, found asus_router with protocol IEEE 802.11bg ch:11 encryptkey: on bitrate:54mbps  IE: WPA Version 1 Group Cipher : TKIP Auth Suites: PSK
[05:21] <wikijeff> If I have a wireless interface and an ethernet interface, is there a way to tell Ubuntu to only use the wireless interface if the ethernet interface isn't connected or isn't working??
[05:21] <Justy> PMantis, i see no problem
[05:21] <PMantis> Justy, ok, working fine... hmmm
[05:22] <phaedrus44> wikijeff:  blacklist the ethernet module?
[05:22] <TooTallJones> I'm looking for some help on a dial-up connection.  gnome-ppp works for me but I want to use kppp as gnome seems to never allow me to drop my connection
[05:22] <silent_scream> hi i downloaded a firefox icon theme and it is in .jar format.. so how can i install it?
[05:22] <PMantis> Justy, Network manager sometimes is very slow in updating its list of networks... but it SHOULD recognize the network cards either way. I dunno.
[05:23] <vcolombo> wikijeff: Check out Network Manager
[05:23] <scrp> der0b: shouldnt be anything wrong with sources.list
[05:23] <wikijeff> phaedrus44, vcolombo: won't that just disable the wireless interface? I still wan't it to be used if the ethernet interface goes down.
[05:23] <TooTallJones> I have the output kppp gives me when I try to connect, let me know if you want to see
[05:24] <hhdk> Anyone good at OpenOffice? : )
[05:24] <roberts> For some reason, enabling dapper-backports only works for main, and not universe.  I know I've enbaled it correctly and applied the changes, but no go...
[05:24] <scrp> der0b: all i have commented are "backports"
[05:24] <Justy> PMantis, is there anyway to connect network with wlan via iwlist ?
[05:24] <wikijeff> vcolombo: what network manager are you talking about?
[05:24] <PMantis> Justy, Actually:  iwconfig eth1 essid <essid of router>
[05:24] <PMantis> Justy, Then: iwconfig eth1
[05:24] <qmf> can anyone point me to a place other than #ati where i can get help on my graphics problems?
[05:25] <der0b> scrp, you actually need to add multiverse, it's not there by defaut
[05:25] <PMantis> Justy, See if it has the MAC fo the router...
[05:25] <PMantis> Justy, With WEP it's harder, WPA, harder yet.
[05:25] <PMantis> Justy, Actually WEP isn't that bad.
[05:25] <newclient> hello
[05:25] <jpjacobs> newclient, hi
[05:26] <newclient> hi im new to ubuntu... i just a q
[05:26] <newclient> hi jpjacobs
[05:26] <xipietotec> how do I edit my composition extension in xorg? (e.g. where do I find this)?
[05:26] <Justy> PMantis, only 10 min. to crack WEP
[05:26] <xipietotec> Is it xorg.conf?
[05:26] <Justy> PMantis, i couldn't see MAC of my router actually no MAC
[05:26] <jpjacobs> 8ask>newclient
[05:26] <Justy> PMantis, and it shows 0 bitrate and 0 channel
[05:26] <scrp> der0b: k, i think i have uncommented like everything in sources.list, still no mplayer
[05:27] <jpjacobs> !ask>newclient
[05:27] <Justy> PMantis, no link quality, signal level etc..
[05:27] <kippi> how can I install libboost-filesystem1.33.0 not libboost-filesystem1.33.0c2a? apt-get only seems to want to install libboost-filesystem1.33.0c2a
[05:27] <TooTallJones> no dial-up masters running around here? =(
[05:27] <newclient> well im wondering how do i check all my mounted devices from the prompt
[05:27] <der0b> scrp, did you add an entry for multiverse?  if yes, did you sudo apt-get update after?
[05:27] <newclient> what i mean is list all mnt dev
[05:27] <scrp> der0b: oh, i need to add an entry? or just uncomment. and ya i did update
[05:27] <jpjacobs> newclient, type in mount in a console
[05:28] <zaggynl> Anyone got warcraft 3 running under wine?
[05:28] <der0b> scrp, you need to add multiverse (not there by default)
[05:28] <zaggynl> I keep getting sound buffer underruns
[05:28] <newclient> oh... (feels dumb)
[05:28] <der0b> !multiverse > scrp
[05:28] <newclient> thnks
[05:28] <hhdk> Is it possible to center your document in openoffice, while viewing it in "100%-mode" ?
[05:29] <newclient> i love linux
[05:29] <zaggynl> Now for some more native games
[05:29] <Justy> PMantis, it say unassociated ESSID:"asus_router"
[05:29] <admrl> networkmanager in notification hasnt been coming up in awhile and when it does come up it does not show the network activity or do anything else
[05:29] <zaggynl> getting wine to work and finding nocd cracks ain't that much fun :P
[05:29] <admrl> in the notification area***
[05:30] <admrl> i havnt been able to find much information about it
[05:32] <der0b> scrp, how's the sources.list update going?
[05:32] <qmf> just incase someone else asks: i fixed my prob (http://starqmf.com/Screenshot.png) by downgrading the fglrx driver through synaptic. worked instantly
[05:32] <roberts> Does Ubuntu use Unicode by default?
[05:32] <omar> der0b: My files are back :)
[05:32] <TooTallJones> anyone who has some kppp knowledge?
[05:32] <der0b> omar, whew.. where did you go?!?!
[05:32] <der0b> omar, I was nervous
[05:33] <omar> der0b: me too, more than you
[05:33] <omar> anyways
[05:33] <omar> der0b: could we star again, I loose everything we talked
[05:33] <omar> der0b: my machine got stucked
[05:34] <der0b> omar, I knew you would be ok, all you did was mount the windows share over your home dir.  which wouldn't have *really* messed you up
[05:34] <zaggynl> how to check if opengl works?
[05:34] <scrp> der0b: http://pastebin.ca/176313
[05:34] <omar> der0b: thanks
[05:34] <omar> der0b: I feel better
[05:34] <der0b> one moment omar, we'll get that share mounted
[05:34] <omar> der0b: I loose the command
[05:34] <omar> I can unmount
[05:35] <omar> but not mount
[05:35] <der0b> scrp, paste your whole sources.list
[05:35] <der0b> to pastbin
[05:36] <der0b> omar, make a folder in your home called trc then sudo mount -t cifs //ip/trc ~/trc
[05:36] <scrp> der0b: http://pastebin.ca/176320
[05:36] <RogerRabb> Hey, I've got two pointing devices connected to this computer - a trackball and a wireless logitech. I've configured my logitech to use evdev so it can make use of all buttons..but now my trackball (which is connected to the ps2) doesn't work
[05:36] <redhand> boa tarde!!!
[05:36] <redhand> alguem pode me enviar o xorg.conf de vcs?
[05:36] <RogerRabb> in my xorg.conf can I have two mouse configs?
[05:37] <Justy> hello all
[05:37] <KenSentMe> Is there a way to let a program start from the menu in a certain folder (not ~/)?
[05:37] <zmeiat_joro> checked the iso, burned again, same thing :?
[05:37] <zmeiat_joro> :/
[05:37] <kupesoft> is there a decent image editor for ubuntu that isn't so entirely inaccessable as GIMP is?
[05:37] <Justy> about wpa_gui : it cannot see my wireless router, output is PING failed - trying to reconnect
[05:37] <der0b> scrp, comment out line 2 and add the multiverse to the end of lines 18 & 19
[05:37] <omar> der0b: Imount -t cifs //ip/trc ~/trc I got this
[05:38] <RogerRabb> kupesoft gimp is basically linux's answer to photoshop.. did you want something simpler - more like ms paint?
[05:38] <brian__> .
[05:38] <HellBunny> howdy fellas, anyone knows why nautilus wont browse windows shares after upgrade and how to fix that?
[05:38] <der0b> scrp, I'm going by the line numbers on pastebin for that
[05:39] <kupesoft> RogerRabb: more like something in between - like macromedia fireworks or something
[05:39] <lwells> does linux come with XTest?
[05:39] <kupesoft> RogerRabb: something moderately powerful,
[05:39] <der0b> omar, got what?
[05:39] <kupesoft> RogerRabb: But easy to use
[05:40] <omar> der0b: mount error: can not change directory into mount target /root/trc
[05:40] <der0b> omar, you
[05:40] <RogerRabb> powerful and easy to use generally don't mix.. and when they do, it's a rare occasion.. I've find gimp pretty easy to use, after spending some hours with it
[05:40] <der0b> omar, you're using ubuntu right?  why are you doing this as root?  you should be using sudo to perform these actions
[05:41] <sharperguy> edgy is in knot three just now right?
[05:41] <harry> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24000       hey hi everybody, can someone help me with this??  i was trying to install the restricted formats
[05:41] <der0b> correct sharperguy
[05:41] <sharperguy> cool
[05:41] <harry> im using kubuntu 5.10
[05:41] <Justy> about wpa_gui : it cannot see my wireless router, output is PING failed - trying to reconnect
[05:41] <Hasdech> hey guys ... i neeeeeed sum help if yas can ... i added a second hard drive to my ubuntu box ... i fdisk'd it with an ext partition and well as far as i can tell i have mounted it correctly ... i have a 4gb hdd i'm using as my primary master (ubuntu boot) drive ... and this new drive is Primary Slave (hdb) the partition i created is hdb1
[05:41] <scrp> der0b: haxor :)
[05:41] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i convert all files in a fodlers (and sub sub folders) names to dvd-writable form?
[05:41] <der0b> lol
[05:41] <MetaMorfoziS> what program can do that?
[05:41] <der0b> so all is well scrp?
[05:42] <HellBunny> anyone knows whats happening to smb browsing in nautilus?
[05:42] <scrp> der0b: well, when i get my consoles back and perhaps setup my wireless :)
[05:42] <kupesoft> Are there any lesser image editors for ubuntu that are usable but not as complicated as GIMP?
[05:42] <Hasdech> now ... what has happened is that i have just started copying to it - and found that it has run out of sapce and that by sharing my /mnt/120GB folder... that is where the files are being copied to - not the new drive with 120GB free ... HELP
[05:43] <der0b> scrp, but the multiverse issue is resolved?  and wireless is evil (regardless of the OS, I really hate that technology as it stands today)
[05:43] <Hasdech> where do i 'command line' to, to find my mounted hdd ?
[05:43] <RogerRabb> there should be a forum post.. let me check it out kupesoft
[05:43] <kupesoft> thanks (=
[05:43] <Justy> brb alll
[05:44] <scrp> der0b: heheh, ebil ebil wireless
[05:44] <der0b> kupesoft, you can try installing krita (it's a kde app but should be fine)
[05:44] <CodeRun> Hey all! :)
[05:44] <amarokker> Hi, what command do i have to use in order to reconfigure xfonts? dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-xorg?
[05:44] <scrp> der0b: but its neccesary sometimes to use wireless, but yes multiverse is solved
[05:44] <scrp> der0b: thank you sir
[05:44] <Schamane> Hasdech: just type mount, the you see everything mounted
[05:44] <scrp> now i can chill here at work, listening to System of a down
[05:44] <CodeRun> I've been using ubuntu for a week now.. and i have a question regarding it.. isn't it true that ubuntu is just a dumbed down version of debian?
[05:44] <TooTallJones> anyone had problems with the keyboard not repsonding to any games in full screen?
[05:45] <scrp> since i set up linux, like 3 other people in my office started to mess with linux too
[05:45] <Tonus> CodeRun, enriched rather, I'd say. enriched with userfriendlyness.
[05:45] <der0b> scrp, I know, I have a lappy and I do need the wireless from time to time..  glad to help.  actually, just glad I can..  I guess I've picked up a few things in the last few months
[05:45] <amarokker> CodeRun: not always for the dumber though- i use it out of sheer convenience- the package management is less painless
[05:45] <HellBunny> CodeRun: exactly, we are all debian users here just waiting for people like you to drop in so we can make fun of you
[05:45] <zaggynl> Anyone knows how to get direct rendering to work?
[05:45] <der0b> omar??  did you see my qstn regarding ubuntu and root?
[05:46] <omar> der0b: it'works, buddy thanxs so much, I got a big scared moment, but everything is ok, thanks for your help
[05:46] <roconnor_> is libqt-mt-dev broken???
[05:46] <der0b> omar, did you sudo or switch to root?
[05:46] <omar> der0b: I am using sudo now
[05:46] <saiko> anyone
[05:47] <saiko> anyone here us devil's pie ?
[05:47] <python_user> hi everyone
[05:47] <der0b> omar, smart man :)  so you have a mount?  you're able to write to it?
[05:47] <administrator_> on dapper... where do i get my sound drivers... i am regular ac  97
[05:47] <RogerRabb> kupesoft take a look at gpaint
[05:47] <omar> der0b: yes I am doing that
[05:47] <RogerRabb> don't know if that's powerful enough or not
[05:47] <scrp> I am root. If you see me laughing you better have backup.
[05:47] <RogerRabb> but heh, can't hurt
[05:47] <omar> der0b: thanks, and you are the smart, see you soon
[05:47] <ermak> can anyone help to run tv-tuner?
[05:47] <roconnor_> is libqt-mt-dev broken???
[05:48] <eyequeue> administrator_, system > preferences > sound
[05:48] <python_user> i tried to install essential codecs for mplayer
[05:48] <python_user> but it didnt work
[05:48] <der0b> omar, lol, thanks..  you're helping my ego :)  - take care and enjoy
[05:48] <python_user> :(
[05:48] <python_user> i installed it to /usr/local/lib
[05:48] <omar> der0b: one more question
[05:48] <eyequeue> administrator_, you may need to "sudo alsamixer" also, to turn off unsupported hardware first, as i did
[05:48] <Hasdech> is there anyone here who knows much about adding hdd's and partitioning / mounting / accessing all from the command line??  please give me a hand...
[05:48] <der0b> shoot omar
[05:49] <kupesoft> Thanks RogerRabb,
[05:49] <python_user> theres no "codecs" directory in /usr/local/lib
[05:49] <omar> der0b: I can't move some files and I get this : "Acceso denegado a /home/omar/trc/Actualidad/Cluster/consultoria MKT Milusca/logos telar."
[05:49] <omar> der0b: that's acces denied
[05:49] <Schamane> Hasdech: dont have much time, but you need fdisk, mkfs and /etc/fstab
[05:49] <amarokker> Hello. some help? whats the dpkg-reconfigure command for xfonts?
[05:49] <python_user> i also tried to install easyubuntu
[05:49] <amarokker> i want to enable bitmap fonts here.
[05:50] <python_user> but that didnt work either
[05:50] <python_user> :(
[05:50] <Gnalein> yay, finally irc works
[05:50] <scrp> where do i set the default program to open for example .mp3
[05:50] <Gnalein> doesn't rythmbox support mp3?
[05:50] <roconnor_> is *ANYBODY* alive
[05:50] <Gnalein> i tried to add a bunch to library, but it didn't work
[05:50] <python_user> and when i tried to remove easyUbuntu from synaptic it gave error
[05:51] <administrator_> ok now this is worse... i just got done installin the i915driver  for my intel card... everything is perfect everything is how it supposed to be on the forums.. but now when i reboot i get to logi9n screen and its just strait blac
[05:51] <Samuli^> !restrictedformats > Gnalein
[05:51] <der0b> omar, I can only assume that root is owning the mount, if you move the files with sudo "sudo mv -v filename" you should have no problem.  we didn't set any permissions on the mount so your account probably doesn't have enough priv to move
[05:51] <scrp> administrator_: omg my login screen is also blank!
[05:51] <python_user> E: easyubuntu: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[05:51] <Gnalein> !restrictedformats
[05:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:51] <administrator_> scrp:yeah
[05:51] <scrp> administrator_: try logging in through the blank screen, it works for me, but i dont see anything
[05:52] <administrator_> yeah i logged in thru blank screen
[05:52] <administrator_> and it works i still see nothin gtho
[05:52] <Gnalein> can't i play mp3 in ubuntu then?
[05:52] <scrp> administrator_: omg! fix it