[00:14] <dystopiandrift> hello. I have a question... my laptop's screen won't sleep.. how do I get it to listen to the options I've set? is the fix still related to installing and configuring gnome power manager?
[00:45] <saikou> I'm new to linux/xubuntu, I need help installing new themes!
[01:35] <uskerine> hi, which messanging program do you recommend for internal communication between users on the same server?
[03:44] <vrkalak> o/     hey, guys . . . s'up ?
[08:43] <xubuntu292> will i be able to upgrade to 12.10 with xubuntu via upgrade instead of having to reinstall everything?
[08:44] <knome> xubuntu292, once it's out, yes
[08:46] <xubuntu292> thank you also does xubuntu have fewer packages installed compared to ubuntu?
[08:46] <xubuntu292> as in less bloated
[08:52] <knome> xubuntu292, i don't know about package count (but i suppose that too), but the apps and stuff in the packages should be more lightweight, yes
[08:52] <xubuntu292> ok thank you for your help
[10:47] <xubuntuE210> hi, anybody can help please? I would like to change desktop from Ubuntu to Xbuntu!
[10:47] <xubuntu374> is there anyway to fix a black screen after a graphics driver install
[10:48] <astraljava> xubuntuE210: Just install xubuntu-desktop metapackage.
[10:49] <xubuntuE210> thanks astraljava. Do I have to uninstall unity desktop?
[10:51] <xubuntu374> is anyone here using the liquorix kernel?
[10:52] <astraljava> xubuntuE210: You should have an option to select Xubuntu desktop session, that won't load Unity, so I doubt it.
[10:52] <xubuntuE210> thanks astraljava, I'll try out! bi-bi!
[13:54] <renxx> where are icons placed on ubuntu
[13:56] <Dice> /usr/share/icons or ~/.icons
[13:59] <recon69_lap> Hi all, got a sound issue, when playing music through speakers is fine, but when I pluging earphones the speakers keep making noise. now, if i reboot the computer with the headphones in the speakers are quite, but removing the headphone does not activate the speakers. anyone got suggestions ?
[14:12] <aLeSD> hi all
[14:13] <aLeSD> could someone tell me how to create a launcher by the terminal ? I have to create it remotly
[14:14] <recon69_lap> aLeSD: launcher? maybe a bit more detail might help.
[14:18] <aLeSD> recon69_lap: an icon to launch an applkication
[14:21] <HoneyBucket> And you want to know how to create it from the terminal?
[14:23] <aLeSD> HoneyBucket: yes
[14:23] <Dice> desktop or panel?
[14:23] <recon69_lap> aLeSD: have you had a look in the .Desktop file K?
[14:23] <HoneyBucket> Ah, that I don't know.
[14:23] <aLeSD> ops
[14:23] <aLeSD> I was wrong ... how to add by and to the doc ?
[14:23] <aLeSD> :)
[14:24] <aLeSD> I was wrong ... how to add by hand to the doc ?
[14:27] <recon69_lap> aLeSD: version of ubuntu?
[14:27] <aLeSD> 12.04
[14:27] <aLeSD> xubuntu
[14:29] <recon69_lap> aLeSD: have a look in ~/.config/xfce4/panel.
[14:30] <Dice> whatever you'll do, that user can't be logged in or all changes you make will be wrecked
[14:31] <aLeSD> recon69_lap: thanks
[14:32] <recon69_lap> aLeSD: google is a wonder full thing :)
[14:32] <aLeSD> lol
[14:35] <recon69_lap> well, I going to REBOOT my ubuntu so i can listen to music without earphones :)
[14:37] <Dice> pavucontrol won't do?
[14:40] <recon69_lap> Dice: no, once it boots it's either both speakers and head phones, or just head phones, there is no way to adjust them separately , tried pavucontrol and alsamixer , no joy
[14:43] <recon69_lap> back, now for a couple of tunes :)
[14:44] <recon69_lap> anyone able to test my sound issue to see if it affect more than me? before i file a bug report
[16:42] <niddersfied> Hello everyone, When I start up xubuntu my monitor tells me to change my input to 1366x768@60hz, How do I fix this?
[17:18] <churl> Hello all!  What file controls the look/appearance of nautilus in Xubuntu?
[17:20] <baizon> churl: xubuntu uses thunar, not nautilus
[17:21] <baizon> more here : http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/advanced_settings
[17:22] <churl> baizon: thanks, I'm sorry I have installed nautilus and it seems like I might need to create a file somewhere that's not created by the install of Nautilus, but is created on an install of Gnome.  Knowing that I'm on a Xubuntu with Nautilus installed, what controls it's settings?
[17:23] <baizon> churl: gconftool
[17:23] <baizon> you can use the gconf-editor
[17:23] <baizon> Go to Apps > Nautilus > Preferences > CHECK AND UNCHECK "Always use browser enable"
[17:27] <churl> baizon: gconf-editor, as far as I can tell and for the most part, just has the settings that you can find under "preferences" within Nautilus.  I'm hoping for a rc file
[17:29] <baizon> check ~/.local/share/applications/
[17:38] <churl> baizon: I think I found what I was looking for, there's a css gtk-3.0 file that might be what can do some of what I'm looking to do. Thanks again!
[17:39] <baizon> np
[19:59] <xubuntu344> hello
[20:43] <uskerine> hi
[20:43] <uskerine> does anyone know how can you recover SKYPE window once it is closed? skype is not terminated but there is no icon in the task bar.
[20:53] <uskerine> hi, where is located the panel config file?
[20:53] <uskerine> i have set up for one user and i would like to copy for another one
[20:56] <bluesabre_> uskerine: ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml and ~/.config/xfce4/panel
[20:57] <bluesabre_> Be careful that the xml file does not contain any links to your home dir though, since those might not be accessible to other users
[20:58] <uskerine> can i safely copy it to other users?
[20:58] <uskerine> for example, now i have skype and xchat running
[20:58] <uskerine> so i found those ones in the "notification applet" within the xml
[20:58] <uskerine> but the other users won't have those programs running
[20:58] <uskerine> what's going to happen?
[20:59] <uskerine> plus current language of the xml might not correspond with other user's language
[21:03] <BlitzHere> Hi all
[21:04] <BlitzHere> I have an interesting issue.
[21:04] <BlitzHere> And as a disclaimer...
[21:04] <BlitzHere> I is noob
[21:05] <BlitzHere> Been trying to install xubuntu. Have both 32bit live and alternate iso burned to DVDs
[21:05] <BlitzHere> With the alternate, Ethernet card us not recognized.
[21:05] <BlitzHere> No issues with live
[21:06] <aguitel> use live
[21:06] <BlitzHere> Card is a RTL 8139d. Supposed to have support in kernel
[21:07] <BlitzHere> Yeah, I can just do that. But if everything just works, life is boring
[21:55] <xubuntu219> hello
[21:57] <xubuntu219> i lost application menu on desktop for one user. I get error of empty file


[00:39] <nshirelaptop> is /etc/motd no longer used? I tried to `cat /etc/motd` and I got "No such file or directory"
[00:40] <nshirelaptop> oh looks like it's under /var/run/. guess cat won't follow symlinks
[00:40] <rbox> if it points to a file that doesnt exist
[00:40] <rbox> then you're going to get it doesnt exist
[00:41] <nshirelaptop> well it used to actually stored there and a lot of old literature points to that
[00:41] <rbox> yeah, amazing... "old literature" might be outdated
[00:48] <sarnold> rbox: it would be far more useful to point out modern literature instead
[00:48] <sarnold> nshirelaptop: grep motd /etc/pam.d/* --  some services still run the pam_motd module and that will still reference that file if it exists
[04:21] <Nautilus> it's been a while since I've used wget so I'm wondering if this would be a good contemporary user agent to use:
[04:21] <Nautilus> --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/113.0"
[04:23] <rbox> what does good mean
[04:24] <oerheks> current is 123.0 ?
[04:26] <Nautilus> sorry, that's the old one from my notes, yes am looking for a good current user agent
[04:26] <Nautilus> good, I can't say specify for sure. Just something reliable?
[04:27] <oerheks> get your current one?
[04:27] <Nautilus> just give it a go with --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/123.0" then?  (note 123.0)
[04:27] <oerheks> https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent/
[04:30] <Nautilus> Ah thanks, it's : Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:123.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/123.0
[09:10] <Martin90> Hey, trying to update "Snap Store" via Ubuntu Software Center where an interesting contradiction occurs: "Unable to update "Snap Store": (null): cannot refresh "snap-store": snap "snap-store" has running apps (ubuntu-software)" :D
[09:11] <Martin90> anybody knows a workaround for this?
[11:27] <RhineDevil> Hi, I tried to do apt update on a xenial ubuntu image in docker and got this: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a51154a9/, ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg and ubuntu-master-keyring.gpg are in /usr/share/keyrings as they should
[12:24] <wildv1per> import socket
[12:24] <wildv1per> import threading
[12:24] <wildv1per> def handle_client(client_socket):
[12:24] <wildv1per> # Modify this function to handle client connections
[12:24] <wildv1per>     pass
[12:25] <wildv1per> def main():
[12:25] <wildv1per>     server = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM)
[12:25] <wildv1per>     server.bind(("<IP_ADDRESS>", 8888))
[12:25] <wildv1per>     server.listen(5)
[12:25] <wildv1per>     print("[*] Listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:8888")
[12:30] <younder> Did you 'hear' anything? python programmer?
[12:31] <stenno> listening to <IP_ADDRESS> is.. pragmatic
[12:38] <younder> Look a like that old code challenge where you where you write a echo protocol server that can handle at least 5 clients. Well a first poke at it..
[12:41] <stenno> my first python program i ever wrote was a socket server and client
[12:41] <stenno> still was in school then so it was around 2003 or so
[12:42] <stenno> coming from C++, it was really amazing
[12:42] <stenno> in python you could just do things without having to spend 200 SLOC to declare a connection or w/e
[12:49] <m0n0p> Hello, I have this exact same problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacsen-common/+bug/1990804  But I didn't find any solution, is anyone here able to help me ? thanks
[12:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1990804 in emacsen-common (Ubuntu) "package cmake-data 3.22.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> failed to install/upgrade: installed cmake-data package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1" [Undecided, Expired]
[12:52] <oerheks> m0n0p, update please, jammy-updates give  3.22.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:53] <oerheks> not sure there is a fix in it, or in cmake itself..
[12:54] <m0n0p> oerheks: everything is up to date
[12:54] <m0n0p> if you mean: apt update && apt upgrade
[12:54] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/cmake-data
[12:54] <m0n0p> I cannot install cmake
[12:54] <oerheks> apt dist-upgrade, yes
[12:54] <ioria> m0n0p, apt-cache policy cmake-data
[12:55] <m0n0p> cmake-data:
[12:55] <m0n0p>   Installé : 3.22.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:55] <m0n0p>   Candidat : 3.22.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:55] <m0n0p>  Table de version :
[12:55] <m0n0p>  *** 3.22.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> 500
[12:55] <m0n0p>         500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates/main amd64 Packages
[12:55] <stenno> lol
[12:56] <ioria> m0n0p, wait a minute , then paste 'sudo apt install --reinstall cmake-data | nc termbin.com 9999'
[13:00] <m0n0p> https://termbin.com/eou9 with sudo apt install --reinstall cmake-data 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 sorry for earlier
[13:02] <ioria> m0n0p, dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:04] <m0n0p> ioria, https://termbin.com/viub
[13:05] <ioria> m0n0p, sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/cmake-data* /tmp
[13:06] <m0n0p> ioria, okay and then ?
[13:06] <ioria> m0n0p, sudo apt install --reinstall cmake-data
[13:07] <m0n0p> E: Internal Error, No file name for cmake-data:amd64
[13:07] <m0n0p> ioria,
[13:07] <oerheks> maybe without * ??
[13:08] <ioria> m0n0p, sudo dpkg --configure -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:10] <m0n0p> ioria, https://termbin.com/kbme
[13:10] <m0n0p> I reran it, and no output
[13:11] <ioria> m0n0p, dpkg -l | grep cmake | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:12] <m0n0p> ioria, https://termbin.com/mipy
[13:13] <ioria> m0n0p, ok; sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:14] <m0n0p> ioria, ok done
[13:14] <ioria> m0n0p, no errors ?
[13:14] <m0n0p> ioria, dpkg: avertissement: le fichier contenant la liste des fichiers du paquet « cmake-data » étant manquant, il est considéré qu'aucun fichier du paquet n'est actuellement installé
[13:14] <m0n0p> . I can translate it if you want
[13:15] <ioria> no it's ok
[13:15] <oerheks> Unless you have cmake installed, you probably do not need this package.
[13:15] <m0n0p> dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'cmake-data' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed
[13:15] <m0n0p> oh okay
[13:15] <ioria> m0n0p, it's correctly installed afaict
[13:16] <m0n0p> ioria, Amazing thank you very much. Also why you did that :sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/cmake-data* /tmp ?
[13:17] <ioria> m0n0p, they are probably corrupted, and now have been replaced
[13:17] <m0n0p> okay
[13:17] <ioria> m0n0p, ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/cmake-data*
[13:18] <m0n0p> ioria, "/var/lib/dpkg/info/cmake-data*": No such file or directory (os error 2)
[13:23] <ioria> m0n0p, sudo apt --fix-broken install
[13:23] <m0n0p> ioria, no errors 0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
[13:23] <ioria> m0n0p, i think it's ok then
[13:24] <m0n0p> ioria, ok thanks
[13:24] <ioria> m0n0p, no problem
[13:24] <younder> I'm afraid your OS has picked up French..
[13:25] <oerheks> Oui?
[13:28] <ogra_> younder, some call that "encryption" ... could be worse, could be chinese or so 😉
[13:34] <m0n0p> younder, and cmake bailed lol
[13:35] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:46] <sem> Hi BluesKaj
[13:46] <sem> hey everybody -- today before work, I will sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop ! :D and also whatever you do to install wayland
[13:47] <sem> I have already taken the precaution of creating a new user who will only log into kubuntu and never log into lubuntu
[13:51] <BluesKaj> hi sem
[13:52] <sem> hey! First thing I am websearching during this install: what does kubuntu use enfc for, and is it ok that it is insecure
[13:52] <sem> i know its spelled differently but I forget what it was
[13:53] <sem> i wish i remembered what it was called lol.. clicked through too quick
[14:00] <sem> now i am making sure to install sudo apt install plasma-workspace-wayland
[14:21] <Luisa14> hey
[15:03] <plastikman> !ask
[15:04] <leftleg_> Omg Richie Hawtin is here
[15:09] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, on this acer swift laptop i have ubuntu installed / and home are on separate partitions, and home is encrypted. during upgrade process things got messed up and its not booting anymore. is is possible to reinstall the root with fresh ubuntu and use the same encrypted home drive, since i have the password ?
[15:33] <plastikman> I dont see why not, but i cant say for sure.
[15:33] <plastikman> why not boot to a live cd, copy the data off the drive then attemt the re-install.
[17:41] <krushia> is there an ubuntu equivalent to https://snapshot.debian.org/ ?
[17:43] <oerheks> old packages https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[17:44] <oerheks> old versions of the iso https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[17:44] <oerheks> looking for mrwthumbnail ??
[17:45] <krushia> i think i just found it
[17:45] <oerheks> :-)
[17:45] <krushia> package is apparently named "mrwtoppm-utils"
[17:46] <krushia> not to be confused with "mrwtoppm" lol
[17:46] <oerheks> good spot!
[17:46] <krushia> thanks for the link though
[18:04] <szstr> How to uh hmm do bluetooth through command line? connect then get an aymaj?
[18:05] <szstr> or wait uh connect then send audio iconed thing
[18:23] <oerheks> szstr, scan connect trust https://medium.com/@muffwaindan/connect-and-use-wireless-usb-and-bluetooth-mouse-and-or-keyboard-on-linux-b23b1a35057b
[18:23] <oerheks> the trust part is hardly to find in any manual
[18:24] <oerheks> i use bluez, to connect, and then use the normal gui thingy
[18:52] <atreo> people, i am trying to write a script that auto sets up my ubuntu environment   (how can i from the terminal change the distro settings)  like turn off bluetooth, add keyboard shortcuts, add a profile picture etc...   where are these settings saved?
[18:53] <leftyfb> atreo: gsettings if you're running gnome
[18:54] <atreo> leftyfb: is it under ./config  ?
[18:54] <leftyfb> atreo: it's a tool, not a configuration file
[18:56] <atreo> leftyfb: you miss understood what i am trying to do,   i am trying to perform these settings changes from the terminal  (so i can save it into a script)
[18:57] <leftyfb> atreo: gsettings is a command line tool that will do exactly what you're looking for
[18:57] <atreo> leftyfb: oh
[18:57] <atreo> hmmm ok,   let me try to read about it
[18:59] <atreo> leftyfb: i can't seem to understand the manual page,    how can i add keyboard shortcuts using gsettings?
[19:00] <atreo> it seems to be talking about key strokes
[19:02] <leftyfb> keyboard shortcuts are a 2 part process
[19:03] <leftyfb> gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys custom-keybindings "['/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys/custom-keybindings/custom0/']"
[19:03] <leftyfb> that's part 1
[19:04] <leftyfb> then defining the details of the custom sortuct
[19:04] <leftyfb> shortcut*
[19:04] <leftyfb>     - gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys.custom-keybinding:/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys/custom-keybindings/custom0/ name "nautilus"
[19:04] <leftyfb>     - gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys.custom-keybinding:/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys/custom-keybindings/custom0/ command "nautilus"
[19:04] <leftyfb>     - gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys.custom-keybinding:/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys/custom-keybindings/custom0/ binding "<Super>e"
[19:04] <atreo> leftyfb: ohhh   ok i think i see how this works
[19:04] <atreo> ok let me try to understand what you just wrote     give me 5 minutes :-)
[19:05] <leftyfb> atreo: if you add another shortcut, you need to run the 1st command again but append the 2nd custom shortcut (custom1)
[19:05] <ghost> hi
[19:07] <atreo> leftyfb: ok how do i findout what keyboard shortcuts i already have?    so i can reverse engineer the commands you just wrote
[19:08] <leftyfb> gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys custom-keybindings
[19:09] <atreo> leftyfb: i see
[19:11] <atreo> i see i have three shortcuts (as expected)  nice    custom0 custom1 custom2
[19:11] <atreo> hwo do i print their content?
[19:12] <leftyfb> gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys.custom-keybinding:/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys/custom-keybindings/custom0/ name
[19:12] <leftyfb> command and binding
[19:13] <atreo> leftyfb: woow  there was no way i could have figured this out myself
[19:14] <atreo> ok let me take notes
[19:19] <Guest38> does anyone have experience with this LUKS Encryption guide for Ubuntu ? <LINK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019 </LINK>
[19:21] <Guest38> after following this guide step by step I and rebooting I boot into ubuntu without GUI
[19:22] <atreo> leftyfb: when i run the commands the previous one gets deleted, i am confused
[19:22] <atreo> leftyfb: this is my script:  https://paste.debian.net/1309804/
[19:24] <leftyfb> atreo: I explained that to you. You need to append the new shortcuts
[19:24] <atreo> leftyfb: oh
[19:25] <atreo> leftyfb: what is the append flag?
[19:26] <atreo> oh wait
[19:26] <leftyfb> gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys custom-keybindings "['/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys/custom-keybindings/custom0/'], etc, etc, etc"
[19:26] <atreo> you mean   "['/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys/custom-keybindings/custom0/'], , , "
[19:26] <atreo> ohhhhhh ok i get it
[19:26] <leftyfb> you define that first
[19:27] <atreo> leftyfb: it works    wow this is amazing !!!! :-)
[19:28] <leftyfb> atreo: btw, look into ansible. That's how I setup my ubuntu environment, install all packages, configure everything and restore from backup
[19:29] <atreo> leftyfb: interesting, it is a program that you install or is it within ubuntu itself?
[19:29] <leftyfb> atreo: sudo apt install ansible
[19:29] <atreo> leftyfb: ok
[19:30] <atreo> leftyfb: but i want to stick with gsettings    how do i know how to configure the rest of the settings?  like Region & Langauge    and adding a user picture etc...    where are you getting/reading this complex information from?
[19:30] <leftyfb> atreo: ansible will use gsettings
[19:32] <leftyfb> atreo: dconf and dconf-editor are good tools to navigate and edit(not recommended) all the settings
[19:32] <atreo> i see
[19:32] <younder> ansible is a program written in python. It is a provisioner. It install software based on scripts. Unlike shellscripts it is designed to enure that everything is just installed one so that if you run the script again and fix a mistake the stuff that was ok gets skipped and the stuff you corrected runs again (indepotent)
[19:34] <younder> There are many others like it puppet, chef, saltstack..
[19:37] <atreo> leftyfb: i like this basic control of it in gsettings     how did you know the commands?   for example   how can i figure out the schema for (Region & Langauge)?
[19:39] <leftyfb> atreo: sudo update-locale LANG=$new_language
[19:39] <atreo> leftyfb: oh no, i don't use my local lanuage and format, because it is screwed up   i used the UK one
[19:40] <leftyfb> atreo: you asked how you set your language. That's how
[19:40] <atreo> oh
[19:40] <leftyfb> for timezone: timedatectl set-timezone $timezone
[19:40] <leftyfb> with sudo
[19:40] <atreo> i see
[19:42] <atreo> leftyfb: how do i find out what is my current  (update-locale)  settings?
[19:43] <atreo> since langauge is LAN   what is format?    FOR? FORM? FORMAT?
[19:43] <atreo> *LANG
[19:44] <atreo> leftyfb: its ok i figured it out
[19:50] <atreo> leftyfb: ok how about appearance settings scheme?  to change it from light to dark, where is that schema?
[19:52] <ravage> gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme
[19:53] <atreo> ravage: leftyfb   i am getting the hang of it       gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme "Yaru-dark"    right?
[19:55] <ravage> yes. or for a specific accent color Yaru-blue-dark
[19:55] <atreo> ravage: nice
[19:55] <atreo> ravage: ok    here is an important question     gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.notifications KEY    how do i know what are all the available keys are?
[20:01] <atreo> ravage: its ok   i fiured it out    list-keys
[20:02] <bprompt> atreo: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11164/how-do-i-browse-for-available-gsettings-options
[20:02] <atreo> bprompt:    thanks :-)
[20:02] <bprompt> np
[20:03] <atreo> this is exciting   i am slowly scripting my ubuntu enviroment  so i can be up and running automatically    NIIIICE
[20:20] <atreo> ravage: leftyfb in the nautilus there is a list-view   but i cannot find how to setup (Expandible forlders in list view)
[20:32] <chives> Anyone familiar with the terminals in linux?  I'm wondering if i can start one for screen that when it terminates so does the terminal?
[20:34] <chives> so that if i detach screen remotely i dont have extra sessions
[20:36] <tomreyn> you can write and install an xdg desktop file which runs gnu screen and executes it in a terminal emulator
[20:54] <Square> This is probably an easy question. I have a second partition set up. But, it seems i need to access (as in clicking it) it in nautilus/filemanager every time i restart my computer for Steam being able to see/discover it.
[20:55] <Square> s/being/to be/
[20:55] <oerheks> put it in fstab?
[20:55] <oerheks> with proper permissions for steam
[20:55] <Square> hmm.. not that i can remember. Never used fstab
[20:55] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1489018/grant-steam-snap-access-to-second-hard-drive
[20:56] <Square> thanks
[20:57] <oerheks> Steam snap should have the removable drive permission by default.
[20:57] <oerheks> see settings > applications > steam
[20:57] <Square> okok. There was no mention of this mount in fstab, so maybe that's it
[20:57] <oerheks> maybe one bit wrong, and wont automount
[20:57] <bprompt> Square: you can list  your devices with -> lsblk <- once you know which device it's, you can use -> sudo blkid <-  to get its UUID to  be used in the /etc/fstab file for "automounting"
[20:58] <Square> Gotcha. I'll try to use this info to make it work next reboot
[21:40] <oerheks> yes!
[22:48] <szstr> Best music .deb to download?
[23:00] <bprompt> szstr: music player?
[23:02] <szstr> music content
[23:03] <bprompt> szstr:  youtube.com   or lastfm.com or pick any radio of choice
[23:03] <bprompt> hehe
[23:05] <szstr> Hmm what ayt about mana client or that Joba coded mmo download the client, just listen to the musziak
[23:09] <szstr> Runesca3e!
[23:11] <leftyfb> szstr: what is your ubuntu support question in clear English?
[23:15] <szstr> Where can I get free cash?
[23:16] <jeremy31> szstr: Try a different chat?
[23:16] <szstr> Well yeah
[23:19] <leftyfb> they've been trolling here for a couple months now


[00:49] <Redoubt> Does anyone know at what level a tap-to-click is handled?
[00:49] <Redoubt> What decides?
[00:49] <RAOF> Redoubt: The X driver.
[00:50] <Redoubt> RAOF: Thank you-- is it purely time-based?
[00:50] <RAOF> I believe so; you'd want to check the finite state automaton in xf86-input-synaptics
[00:54] <Redoubt> RAOF: Okay, I appreciate the help!
[01:05] <jgriffith> smb`: ping
[01:21] <Redoubt> Are funkeys (volume up, volume down, etc) handled in the userspace nowadays?
[01:23] <RAOF> Yes
[01:25] <Redoubt> RAOF: I'm having some trouble figuring out where, exactly. Any pointers?
[01:25] <RAOF> gnome-settings-daemon does the handling in GNOME/Unity; KDE will have an equivalent.
[01:27] <Redoubt> RAOF: So if I have a funkey that adjusts my keyboard backlight brightness, does gnome-settings-daemon turn that into... an ACPI signal back to my keyboard?
[01:27] <RAOF> That depends :)
[01:27] <Redoubt> Haha
[01:27] <Redoubt> How do I learn that stuff?
[01:28] <RAOF> So, posibilities include: your firmware doesn't generate an event at all, and just twiddles backlight brightness itself. Or, generates an event that gets sent to gnome-settings-daemon and then g-s-d doesn't know what to do with it.
[01:30] <Redoubt> Ah, I didn't know that first one was an option. Is there a way to confirm one way or another?
[01:32] <Redoubt> The backlight _does_ change, just not in an ideal manner. I was hoping I could take a look at the logic
[07:19] <Daviey> smb: Are we blocked on bug 1023755?
[07:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1023755 in linux "Precise kernel locks up while dd to /dev/mapper files > 1Gb (was: Unable to delete volume)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023755
[07:43] <smb> Daviey, In the sense that I cannot see in a low-level experiment that the dd I use hangs. I get an IO error and the snapshot is invalidated as I would expect. I would at least need someone affected getting back in the report and saying whether the reproduction happens on them
[07:44] <smb> Daviey, There is the other part that maybe a slightly bigger snapshot size may circumvent the issue, too.
[07:46] <smb> Unfortunately there is no pre-existing simple way to convert the snapshot storage/meta-data area into a linear volume and erase that later.
[07:46] <smb> (at least I found none)
[07:55] <Daviey> smb: yeah, i think there is a genuine bug there
[08:04] <ppisati> brb
[08:24]  * apw yawns
[08:25] <cooloney> moring smb, ppisati and apw
[08:25] <apw> morning cooloney
[08:25] <smb> Morning all
[08:25]  * smb is lazy
[10:37] <inter> ciao a tutti
[10:37] <inter> !list
[10:37] <ubot2> $who: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[11:04] <henrix> apw: are you around?
[11:07] <henrix> guess not...
[11:18] <apw> henrix, yep
[11:23] <henrix> apw: i've a question
[11:27] <smb> I think the answer is it was not really expected but is possible due to them being compatible... :-P
[11:35]  * henrix -> lunch
[11:59] <Pirx-Danford> cheers, found out I need an older kernel after upgrading to 12.04, luckily the old kernel I used still boots, but is there a maintained 2.6 line for 12.04?
[12:22] <Pirx-Danford> okay so I found http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ - is there any other way?
[12:41]  * henrix -> brb
[12:48] <ppisati> ogra_: i left my board compiling since yesterday and with vm.min_free=32K i can confirm that
[12:48] <ppisati> lp 690370
[12:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 690370 in linux-ti-omap4 "Strange out of memory on pandaboard" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690370
[12:48] <ppisati> ogra_: is fixed
[12:48] <ogra_> cool
[12:48] <ppisati> ogra_: now, casper had that fix but
[12:48] <ppisati> 1) does it carry it to the installed system?
[12:49] <ppisati> 2) what someone upgrades from [N/O] to P?
[12:49] <ppisati> *what if
[12:49] <ppisati> is the fix carried over?
[12:49] <ppisati> in Q is fixed at kernel level, so no prob there
[12:49] <ppisati> ogra_: ^
[12:50] <ogra_> it is a file that jasper creates in /etc/sysctl.d ...
[12:50] <ogra_> that file isnt owned by any package, so upgrades should still have it
[12:50] <ogra_> (i.e. there is nothing removin that file)
[12:50] <ppisati> what if someone comes from M?
[12:51] <ppisati> and was N the first were this fix showed up?
[12:51] <ppisati> *first release
[12:51] <ogra_> coming from M you have an armel install and *wnat* to reinstall anyway
[12:51] <ogra_> *want
[12:51] <ppisati> well, you can reach P
[12:51] <ogra_> theoretically, yeah
[12:52] <ogra_> err
[12:52] <ogra_> no, you cant
[12:52] <ppisati> becasue in that lp, mdz said he had a 11.04 system
[12:52] <ogra_> there was some kernel guy who decided to only build panda kernels for armhf ;)
[12:52] <ppisati> and he still experience that bug
[12:52] <ppisati> that wasn't me :)
[12:52] <ogra_> heh
[12:53] <ogra_> it was a good decision ... butu upgraders will be stuck on their old kernel
[12:53] <ppisati> uhm ok
[12:53] <ogra_> why isnt that a duplicate for the oter bug ?
[12:58] <ogra_> ppisati, i think we should just duplicate it ... natty will be dead in a few weeks
[12:59] <ogra_> and i really wouldnt suggest to anyone to stay on armel, while it is still there in the archive, its totally untested since two reeases
[12:59] <ppisati> ogra_: added a comment for mdz in that lp bug
[13:00] <ogra_> (and in quantal it even switched its default arch)
[13:00] <pocoporco1> hello@all
[13:01] <pocoporco1> can somebody help me? i'm searching for an implementation of the wlan management frames in the kernel :(
[13:02] <pocoporco1> or... could somebody tell me, if i'm searching right here in ubuntu-KERNEL? i'm not sure where i have to search
[13:06] <rtg> herton, re: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2012-September/022121.html - did you notice that I did cherrypick the upstream patch (for Quantal) and not the one in the email ?
[13:07] <herton> rtg, no, didn't notice you cherry-picked it already the right patch
[13:08] <rtg> herton, depending on who submits the request, I almost always verify first.
[13:10] <herton> rtg, sent the ack for the cherry-pick on precise
[13:10] <rtg> apw, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2012-September/022108.html
[13:11] <apw> rtg seen it, will get to thinking on shortly
[13:34]  * rtg thinks ogasawara must be having desktop issues
[13:35] <ogasawara> I'm here, although I'm on my laptop as I am having issues with my desktop (ie I'm pretty sure my hard drive is dieing).
[13:36] <rtg> ogasawara, oh, not the refurb Vostro ?
[13:37] <rtg> or its the desktop the auguring in ?
[13:37] <ogasawara> it's my desktop that is cratering, I'm on my adamo
[13:38] <rtg> ogasawara, fortunately you live in the silicon forest where hard drives are readily available
[13:42] <ogasawara> indeed
[13:46] <amitk> rtg: what, ogasawara moved to Fry's?!
[13:47] <rtg> amitk, she lives just down the street from Fry's IIRC
[13:47] <rtg> amitk, no, thats a different place.
[13:47] <tjaalton> rtg: hey, have you tried building the ubuntu-r kernel yet? I'm thinking of using it as a base for debugging intel drm crack..
[13:48] <rtg> tjaalton, it buildds for armhf, amd64, and i386
[13:48] <rtg> builds*
[13:48] <tjaalton> rtg: cool, enough for me
[13:48] <rtg> using the quantal toolchain
[13:48] <tjaalton> yeah
[13:49] <rtg> tjaalton, its doesn't work worth a dang on my AMD Fusion(?) GPU
[13:49] <tjaalton> oh, heh
[14:01] <apw> henrix, ok a buildd admin did indeed flip a machine to lpia and back
[14:01] <henrix> apw: ah, ok. cool! thanks for the update
[14:03] <infinity> Sorry if I confused people. :P
[14:04] <henrix> heh, no problem. i was a little bit confused indeed :)
[14:07] <apw> infinity, its good for us
[14:17] <infinity> henrix: For the record, I'll be doing the usual copy-from-ppa and mangle overrides dances today for all the things you guys have been uploading this week.
[14:17] <henrix> infinity: ack, thanks.
[14:35] <ppisati> is the a way to specify to dpkg-buildpackage to build just one flavour? e.g. omap
[14:35] <ppisati> *there
[14:35] <rtg> ppisati, --target=
[14:36] <ppisati> rtg: thanks
[14:47]  * rtg knocks the number of linux-firmware bugs down to 2.
[14:48] <ogra_> does that ean we need to file new ones ?
[14:48] <ogra_> *mean
[14:48] <ogra_> so you dont run out of work :)
[14:48] <rtg> ogra_, oh please, I _live_ for firmware bugs :)
[14:49] <ogra_> hahaha
[15:00] <rtg> skaet, I think you should drop the  rls-mgr-q-tracking tag on bug #1006427 as ppc is a community supported arch and should not be allowed to hold up the release.
[15:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1006427 in linux "(PowerBookG4) Live image won't boot, stuck on "stdin: Not a typewriter"" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006427
[15:01] <skaet> rtg,  that's a stale tag,  not being used anymore.    Need to do a cruft cleanup.
[15:02] <rtg> skaet, what are you using to compile http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html ?
[15:02] <skaet> valid tags are:  rls-q-incoming,   rls-q-notfixing.   Otherwise status is tracked by whether its targetted to a series or not.
[15:03] <skaet> rtg,  bdmurray looks for those bugs targetted to a series,   as decided at last UDS,   there was an email from slangasek about earlier in cycle,  I'll go get the blueprint...
[15:03] <rtg> skaet, don't bother, its not that important to me (cause I won't remember for more  then a day at the most)
[15:04] <rtg> skaet, mostly I just wanted bug 1006427 off my radar
[15:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1006427 in linux "(PowerBookG4) Live image won't boot, stuck on "stdin: Not a typewriter"" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006427
[15:05] <rtg> ppisati, tag, you're it: bug #1045855
[15:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1045855 in linux-ti-omap4 "usb keyboard doesn't work during installation of ubuntu-server on panda" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1045855
[15:06] <skaet> rtg,  then add the tag rls-q-notfixing to it,  and that should bump it from the list
[15:07] <rtg> jsalisbury, recent responses on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1045027
[15:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1045027 in linux "[regression] iPXE kills kvm with KVM: entry failed, hardware error 0x80000021" [Critical,In progress]
[15:07] <rtg> skaet, done
[15:07] <ppisati> rtg: weird
[15:08] <rtg> ppisati, might be bogus, it just needs some love
[15:08] <ppisati> rtg: ack
[15:11] <ppisati> ogra_: how is the server installation handled these days? i remember the installer back then via serial console (and thus you needed serial access), how about now?
[15:11] <rtg> ppisati, bug #746137 is also in your bailiwick.
[15:11] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 746137 in linux-ti-omap4 "Page allocation failure on Pandaboard and Beagle XM" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746137
[15:12] <ogra_> ppisati, theoretically you should be able to isntall via framebuffer, practically bug 1028664 might get in your way
[15:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1028664 in debian-installer "keyboard does not work on quantal-server-armhf+omap4.img" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028664
[15:14] <ogra_> ppisati, there is a preEnv.txt-serial you can copy over preEnv.txt on the first partition of the SD before installing, that will get you the serial setup
[15:17] <ppisati> ogra_: no, i want to test lp 1028664
[15:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1028664 in debian-installer "keyboard does not work on quantal-server-armhf+omap4.img" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028664
[15:17] <ppisati> ogra_: but i remembered that it wasn't possible to do a server installation without serial console
[15:18] <ppisati> ogra_: let's see this framebuffer thing
[15:18] <ogra_> you should just see the d-i screen right after booting
[15:18] <ogra_> it comes up really fast
[15:18] <ppisati> besides, someone should really tell what's the rationale in requiring a monitor for a server installation... but that's another story...
[15:19] <ppisati> ogra_: on the screen, right?
[15:20] <ogra_> yes
[15:20] <ogra_> ppisati, we used to default to serial and i agree with you that servers should be serial ...
[15:21] <ogra_> but with us forcing unity on everyone people asked for a way to install xubuntu or lubuntu desktops ...
[15:21] <ogra_> for which server or netinst is your best chouce
[15:21] <ogra_> and tehse people want to use framebuffer
[15:21] <ppisati> i disagree here
[15:22] <ppisati> if i install a server (a dell blade&c) i'll never attach an lcd to it perhaps
[15:22] <ogra_> oh. sure
[15:22] <ppisati> so if you install an ubuntu server, just use the serial console
[15:22] <rtg> arges, has jjohansen's AA bug fix been exposed publicly yet ?
[15:22] <ogra_> but server serves the purpose of the now dropped alternate image now as well
[15:23]  * ppisati shrugs
[15:23] <arges> rtg, what do you mean? the LP #?
[15:23] <rtg> arges, the patch
[15:23] <ppisati> ogra_: anyway, i'm downloading the daily server to check it out
[15:23] <arges> rtg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1056078
[15:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1056078 in linux "freeing apparmor profiles cause irq stack overflow" [Critical,Confirmed]
[15:23] <arges> rtg, yea its there
[15:23] <ogra_> ppisati, but we should probably consider defaulting to serial and make framebuffer the optional choiuce (i.e. flip the defaults)
[15:24] <rtg> arges, cool, I'll pluck that into Q
[15:24] <ppisati> ogra_: wait, let me just check this usb thing
[15:24] <ppisati> ogra_: so i don't have to flip the new defaults
[15:24] <ogra_> default is framebuffer
[15:25] <ogra_> you should be able to but as is
[15:25] <ogra_> *boot
[15:26] <ppisati> dd-ing right now...
[15:30] <rtg> arges, is bug #979498 related to bug #1056078 ?
[15:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 979498 in linux "Critical: Natty kernel hangs in xlog_grant_log_space" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979498
[15:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1056078 in linux "freeing apparmor profiles cause irq stack overflow" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056078
[15:30] <arges> rtg, nope
[15:31] <arges> rtg, that one will be a bit more tricky... its a series of 13 or so patches that are in upstream nfs now (i think)
[15:31] <arges> err
[15:31] <arges> xfs
[15:31] <rtg> ok
[15:31] <rtg> arges, I'm gonna change the patch description from jjohansen to ':1
[15:31] <rtg> UBUNTU SAUCE: apparmor: fix stack overflow
[15:32] <ppisati> ogra_: screen is black and installer started on serial console
[15:32] <ppisati> ogra_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/quantal-server-armhf+omap4.img
[15:32] <ogra_> it doesnt for me here
[15:32] <ogra_> you didnt copy anything around on the image/SD ?
[15:33] <ppisati> ogra_: nope
[15:33] <ppisati> ogra_: wget and then dd
[15:33] <ogra_> well, thats tecnically not possible
[15:33]  * ppisati is technically impossible!
[15:33] <ogra_> d-i wont start on serial if there isnt a console= line
[15:33] <ogra_> and there isnt one
[15:33] <ogra_> check preEnv.txt please
[15:33] <ppisati> ok
[15:34] <ppisati> ogra_: bootargs=vram=40M mem=456M@0x80000000 mem=512M@0xA0000000   cdrom-detect/try-usb=true
[15:34] <ppisati> preEnv.txt
[15:35] <ogra_> yeah, nothing in there that could even remotely cause d-i to start on serial
[15:35] <ogra_> (and in fact it doesnt here)
[15:35] <ppisati> AH!
[15:36] <ppisati> this time it started on the framebuffer!
[15:36] <ppisati> i'm not kidding
[15:36]  * ogra_ scratches head
[15:36] <ppisati> and indeed usb is dead
[15:37] <ogra_> i suspect we're missing HID stuff in the udebs
[15:37] <rtg> bjf, another regression test for your suite: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1056078/comments/2
[15:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1056078 in linux "freeing apparmor profiles cause irq stack overflow" [Critical,Confirmed]
[15:37] <ogra_> but didnt get to that big yet
[15:37] <ogra_> *bug
[15:37] <bjf> rtg, reading
[15:37] <ppisati> i want to wipe the sd and try again now
[15:38] <bjf> rtg, we _do_ run the apparmor qrt tests, i'd like to see this added to those. however, i'm happy to run this separately also.
[15:38] <rtg> bjf, It doesn't matter to me where it lands
[15:39] <rtg> vi ~/tmp/jj
[15:39] <bjf> rtg, i understand
[15:45] <ppisati> ogra_: dd it again and this time it went immediately to framebuffer
[15:45] <ppisati> ogra_: *bah*
[15:46] <ogra_> phew, ok, lets call that cosmic rays thenb
[15:46] <ppisati> always on me?
[15:46] <ogra_> looking at the d-i detection code there is no reason why you did see the serial console
[15:46] <ppisati> i didn't take a screenshot
[15:46] <ppisati> net time i'll do
[15:46] <ppisati> anyhow
[15:46] <ogra_> from the black screen ?
[15:47] <ppisati> nope, from the terminal
[15:47] <ogra_> i belive you it was black when the serial console was up ;)
[15:47] <ogra_> ah, k
[15:58] <ppisati> ogra_: during the desktop install, the usb keyboard is working (i know it because i use it for input), so why it's not working here?
[15:58] <ogra_> ppisati, d-i can only use modules that are provided as a udeb
[15:59] <ogra_> while desktop just has all modules available that are in the kernel package
[15:59] <ppisati> ok
[15:59] <ogra_> i would suspect we are missing a hid udeb here
[16:03] <rtg> sforshee, could you have a look at bug #117414061 ? It kind of looks like an interrupt issue.
[16:03] <jsalisbury> bjf, should I add 1056969 to the hotlist, or are you looking at it?
[16:04] <rtg> sforshee, make that bug #1056969
[16:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1056969 in linux "USB accessories stop working" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056969
[16:04] <bjf> jsalisbury: should be on the list
[16:04] <jsalisbury> bjf, ack
[16:04] <sforshee> rtg, ack
[16:06] <penguin42> are there older nightly deb's anywhere from Linus's git tree - I'm looking for stuff pre 3.6.-rc1
[16:07] <rtg> penguin42, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[16:08] <penguin42> rtg: That only has the main tags, rather than Linus's tree
[16:08] <rtg> penguin42, I'm not sure what you're telling me. those kernels are built from vanilla sources out of Linus tree.
[16:09] <penguin42> rtg: But only at specific tags; I'm looking for the nightlys that occurred prior to the 3.6.-rc1 tag
[16:09] <rtg> penguin42, oh, that we don't have
[16:09] <penguin42> rtg: But (after 3.5 release)
[16:10] <penguin42> rtg: Yeh the nightly build only has about a weeks saved
[16:21] <rtg> henrix, pushed precise
[16:21] <henrix> rtg: ack, thanks
[16:28] <jsalisbury> rtg, bug 1041883 bisected down to commit d3a67dbe37d32ba10da0de2f14151d606856e5d2 as the cause of the regression.
[16:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1041883 in linux "Recent patch to asus-wmi module makes system unbootable" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041883
[16:28] <jsalisbury> rtg, it may be related to CONFIG_X86_X32=y
[16:29] <jsalisbury> rtg, I think that was your first hunch :-)
[16:29] <rtg> jsalisbury, indeed. apw ^^
[16:35] <cking> apw, any notion why we enabled that back in 3.5.0-11.11?
[16:36] <apw> cking, yeah it was something we are interested in for next cycle maybe
[16:36] <apw> cking, so we enabled it to see if it was a problem and to allow testing
[16:36] <apw> cking, it is the 32bit pointer 64bit registers mode thing
[16:36] <cking> so lets turn it off and explore that for Q+1 then..
[16:36]  * cking recalls that now
[16:36] <apw> cking, if jsalisbury proves it is the issue i am all for that
[16:37] <tjaalton> rtg: ubuntu-r kernel oopses immediately after loading.. oh well
[16:42]  * ppisati -> gym
[16:53] <penguin42> jsalisbury: on the iPXE crash, I'm curious - does it trigger for you (it's trivial to try if you have KVM installed)
[16:54] <jsalisbury> penguin42, I'm not able to reproduce the bug, but there are two people in that bug that can.
[16:55] <penguin42> jsalisbury: Yes, I'm one of them - hmm ok, I'd assumed it was host cpu independent
[16:55] <jsalisbury> penguin42, ahh, ok :-)
[16:57] <jsalisbury> penguin42, It's strange that the bug does not exist on v3.6-rc1, since the same commit that causes the bug in 3.5.3 is applied there as well.  An email has been sent upstream requesting info as well.
[16:58] <penguin42> jsalisbury: Yeh, there are lots of other changes in 3.6 though, so I assume another one fixed it somewhere or it was an incomplete backport of a patch from 3.6
[16:59]  * cking ~~> food
[16:59] <jsalisbury> penguin42, yeah.  I'll have to look closer
[17:02] <apw> commit bacef661acdb634170a8faddbc1cf28e8f8b9eee
[17:02] <apw> Author: Jan Beulich<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:02] <apw> Date:   Fri May 25 16:20:31 2012 +0100
[17:02] <apw>     x86-64/efi: Use EFI to deal with platform wall clock
[17:29] <jgriffith> smb: ping
[17:34]  * rtg -> lunch
[18:27] <rtg> smb, so what is your call on bug #1038055 ? do you still want CONFIG_DRM_CIRRUS_QEMU disabled ?
[18:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1038055 in linux "graphics fail to initialise correctly, in kvm with cirrus graphics (after LUKS install)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038055
[19:35] <herton> rtg, that apparmor sru for lucid will not apply, wrong patch?
[19:37] <rtg> herton, perhaps, lemme check
[19:40] <rtg> herton, hmm, looks right to me. try git://kernel.ubuntu.com/rtg/ubuntu-lucid.git master-next
[19:41] <herton> rtg, right, ignore me... now I noticed I was in the wrong branch after reviewing lts-backport oneiric today...
[19:42] <rtg> herton, np
[19:54] <rtg> herton, arges: I'm getting a lot of noise from the AA reproducer script in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1056078/comments/2 . Is that what you would expect ?
[19:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1056078 in linux "freeing apparmor profiles cause irq stack overflow" [Undecided,In progress]
[19:59] <herton> rtg, on a precise vm I get lots of "apparmor_parser: cannot use or update cache..."
[20:00] <rtg> herton, thats what I got as well, but dmesg indicates that tehre are profiles being deleted. is that the same in yours ?
[20:01] <herton> rtg, yes, some profile_replace messages
[20:02] <rtg> herton, ok. I guess thats good.
[20:29]  * rtg -> EOD
[20:45] <phillw> Hi, is kernel-3.6.0-0.rc6.git0.2.fc18 (or later) going to land for 12.10?
[20:58] <bjf> phillw, we are going with the 3.5 kernel
[21:03] <phillw> bjf: okies, I'll have to go figure out another route to fix bug 1043518 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=857300
[21:03] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1043518 in ubiquity "live cd is unusable due to video degradation with the splash boot option enabled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043518
[21:03] <ubot2> phillw: Error: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.redhat.com: HTTP Error 404: Not Found (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/xml.cgi?id=857300)
[21:04] <phillw> hopefully I can nosplasj put in for the PPC architecture until 3.6 arrives for 13.04
[21:04] <phillw> *nosplash*
[21:50] <infinity> phillw: You should be isolating the git commit and asking people to pull it into our kernel, not to upgrade wholesale to 3.6.0
[21:51] <phillw> infinity: my apologies, when it comes to this level of detail, I'm way out of my depth... sorry!
[21:52] <phillw> so, now that I know the correct question.. could the patch be applied to our current 3.5.x kernel. From my (very) limited reading of the bug report, it did not cause regressions and fixed the issue.
[22:02] <phillw> s/reading/understanding


[00:36] <bkerensa> pleia2: hopefully that menu will work... We should have beer and wine and other beverages
[07:14] <dholbach> good morning
[09:02]  * dholbach relocates, bbiab
[16:32] <dholbach> all right my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow?
[16:32] <dholbach> !
[16:32] <dholbach> :)
[16:32]  * belkinsa hugs dholbach
[16:32]  * dholbach hugs belkinsa back :)