[00:52] <cyberanger> so who's here for the meeting?
[01:01] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: ping
[01:01] <cyberanger> Dan9186: ping
[01:01] <cyberanger> electricus: ping
[01:01] <cyberanger> elijah-mbp: ping
[01:01] <chibihogoshino> im here
[01:01] <cyberanger> Juzzy: ping
[01:02] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: ping
[01:02] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: ping
[01:02] <cyberanger> wrst: ping
[01:02] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: well, in that case, huh, small meeting I guess
[01:02] <chibihogoshino> lol
[01:02] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[01:02] <elijah-mbp> pong
[01:02] <chibihogoshino> yay
[01:02] <elijah-mbp> hiyas
[01:02] <cyberanger> elijah-mbp: here for the meeting?
[01:03] <elijah-mbp> meeting time!
[01:03] <elijah-mbp> sure.
[01:03] <cyberanger> yes
[01:03] <elijah-mbp> i'm watching tv and sitting on my butt on the couch - so yeah, we can have a meeting :)
[01:03] <cyberanger> three, can we get a fourth
[01:03] <elijah-mbp> i could count for two?  :)
[01:03] <elijah-mbp> *is a big guy*
[01:03] <chibihogoshino> log in a few more times
[01:04]  * cyberanger waits for elijah-mbp_ to join, so I can count him twice
[01:04] <chibihogoshino> heh
[01:05] <chibihogoshino> is three people enough ?
[01:05] <cyberanger> well, hang on, lemme see if one of the other leaders is floating on xmpp
[01:05] <elijah-mbp> ha.
[01:05] <cyberanger> well, yes, it is enough
[01:05] <cyberanger> the adgenda is small, and I've not heard from west tn today
[01:06] <chibihogoshino> ok
[01:06] <cyberanger> netritious is running a little behind
[01:07] <chibihogoshino> you wanna wait ?
[01:09] <cyberanger> just a little, jfenn2199 is also able, he's allways a bit behind, work ends as the meeting begins
[01:09] <cyberanger> is that an issue for either of you?
[01:09] <chibihogoshino> nope
[01:09] <cyberanger> all I had really is an email announcement
[01:10] <chibihogoshino> any thing big ?
[01:10] <cyberanger> eh, not as big as it should have been
[01:10] <chibihogoshino> oh
[01:10] <cyberanger> I should have been able to say we're offical loco now
[01:11] <cyberanger> but hopefully I can say that next month
[01:11] <chibihogoshino> why not this month ?
[01:12] <cyberanger> well, I'll be applying this month
[01:12] <chibihogoshino> ahh
[01:12] <cyberanger> but our next meeting after that is next month
[01:12] <chibihogoshino> irc or irl ?
[01:13] <cyberanger> to get approved, irc, loco council
[01:13] <chibihogoshino> ok
[01:14] <chibihogoshino> some one els came in from knoxville .. i forget what the nick was tho..
[01:14] <cyberanger> oh, you mean for a meetup, gotcha
[01:15] <cyberanger> irl, if doable
[01:15] <cyberanger> it's gotten to be a PITA for me, and linuxman410 can't travel as easily as me
[01:15] <chibihogoshino> i dont know if they are going to join or not but they do use linux
[01:15] <chibihogoshino> pita ?
[01:15] <cyberanger> pain in the arse
[01:16] <chibihogoshino> ahhh
[01:16] <cyberanger> so idk, kinda pisses me off that I can't get up to knoxville or down to chattanooga as easily
[01:16] <cyberanger> as I did
[01:16] <chibihogoshino> yeah.
[01:16] <chibihogoshino> not having a car sucks
[01:16] <cyberanger> hell, I'd goto memphis and did goto nashville for a release party
[01:17] <cyberanger> or to run an installfest
[01:17] <chibihogoshino> that would be cool
[01:17] <cyberanger> had plans to head to some of the lugs
[01:18] <cyberanger> yeah, the installfest was easy, was gonna trick out a laptop for it
[01:18] <chibihogoshino> nice
[01:18] <chibihogoshino> what was it going to get
[01:19] <cyberanger> upgrade the hdd, setup a netboot, have minimal install (netboot) cd's for older machines
[01:19] <cyberanger> host a local mirror on it, with dns spoofing too
[01:19] <chibihogoshino> spoofing what
[01:19] <cyberanger> so do the install here, and update at home, without changing a setting
[01:19] <chibihogoshino> oh
[01:20] <cyberanger> spoof archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com
[01:20] <cyberanger> and setup a local mirror
[01:20] <cyberanger> thus the installed machines go home, and pull updates from legitimate sources still
[01:21] <chibihogoshino> ahh
[01:21] <cyberanger> (a local mirror is still a legitimate source, gpg verified, secure apt designs, I tried very hard to insure this design)
[01:21] <chibihogoshino> how large would that be
[01:21] <jfenn2199> Evening all
[01:22] <cyberanger> not too large, if I only focused on packages needed for the install
[01:22] <cyberanger> ok, hold that though
[01:22] <cyberanger> #startmeeting
[01:22] <MootBot> Meeting started at 19:22. The chair is cyberanger.
[01:22] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[01:22] <cyberanger> wow, I remembered that, barely
[01:22] <cyberanger> [topic] New Year Plans
[01:22] <MootBot> New Topic:  New Year Plans
[01:22] <cyberanger> evening jfenn2199
[01:23] <cyberanger> elijah-mbp: still around?
[01:24] <netritious> howdy
[01:24] <netritious> what did I miss
[01:24] <jfenn2199> Nothing at all
[01:25] <cyberanger> we were waiting a little, both of you showed up about the same time (I have three announcements, really could be summed up in an email)
[01:26] <netritious> roger
[01:26] <cyberanger> is there anything you both would like to metion
[01:26] <netritious> well we can still call it a meeting :D
[01:26] <cyberanger> since jfenn2199 is on a deadline
[01:26] <cyberanger> plans in west tn?
[01:26] <netritious> possibly a meetup the 3rd week this month
[01:27] <jfenn2199> Right now I've been in survival mode but should be back full swing by 2nd week of feb
[01:27] <cyberanger> jfenn2199: glad to hear it, I know you've uh, well taken a beating
[01:27] <netritious> meant to have one last month but Krimas had me caught up with family
[01:28] <cyberanger> well, I suspended stuff that was ideal for the same reasons last month myself
[01:28] <cyberanger> what's the plan
[01:28] <netritious> where's pace_t_zulu?
[01:28] <cyberanger> and we need to have this on the wiki and email list btw
[01:28] <chris4585> birthday dinner
[01:28] <cyberanger> unavailable
[01:28] <netritious> ah that's right
[01:28] <cyberanger> he nearly forgot
[01:29] <netritious> how's it hangin' chris4585?
[01:29] <cyberanger> reason I ask, we're going to the loco council this month (or so goes my plan, don't intend to have it get sidelined again)
[01:30] <chris4585> netritious, can't complain
[01:30] <chris4585> is the meeting already over?
[01:30] <cyberanger> and right now, for events in the works, all I can say is we're sending somebody to help with chattacon for the 3rd year (me) to help run computergaming (xubuntu)
[01:30] <cyberanger> nope
[01:30] <netritious> cool chris4585...then life is good :)
[01:30] <cyberanger> not yet over
[01:31] <jfenn2199> I'm down for a meetup anywhere I know we usually meet in my neck of the woods but if you want closer to home netritious I'm down
[01:31] <cyberanger> netritious: so what's the date and place
[01:32] <netritious> Sat Jan 22 3:30pm @ Memphis Pizza Café on Madison
[01:32] <cyberanger> if you can let me know before the 12th, it'd help our application
[01:32] <cyberanger> nvr mind, it's already set ;-)
[01:33] <netritious> MPC in midtown is fine
[01:33] <cyberanger> are you doing it monthly, every third week
[01:33] <cyberanger> this case 4th saturday
[01:33] <cyberanger> ?
[01:34] <jfenn2199> well if we want that for a time and regular venue I can always ablige (8 min walk)
[01:34] <netritious> it's just that my calendar is clear on that Sat
[01:34] <cyberanger> netritious: can we turn that into a recurring event?
[01:36] <netritious> we could except I don't/can't commit to that...we (my wife and daughter) have been doing family stuff on weekends for the past few months...
[01:36] <netritious> not sure that is going to change with Krimas gone exactly
[01:36] <netritious> *won't/can't
[01:36] <elijah-mbp> family time is important.
[01:37] <cyberanger> well, it's an ubuntu hour if it's recurring weekly or every other week
[01:37] <cyberanger> but I do understand family
[01:37] <netritious> yeah...my wifes family is spread out a bit with lots of bdays, anniversaries, blah blah...it seems to be never ending, except for Sat Jan 22 lol
[01:38] <cyberanger> I don't think ubuntu hours are realistic for many in our loco
[01:38] <cyberanger> easier for college towns with active members in college and such
[01:38] <jfenn2199> Haha would it work to set it tentatively I'll know if I can maintain hosting by feb
[01:39] <cyberanger> well, my plan if we can get it to happen, is each region declares a meetup in our meeting
[01:39] <jfenn2199> That location is around the corner from me and I carry out at least once every month so I could just as easily sit and converse
[01:39] <netritious> jfenn2199: sure, I mean you are co-poc and live 8 minutes away :D
[01:39] <netritious> more lik 2 min lol
[01:39] <cyberanger> so if you can do that in febuary, announce it in febuary's meeting, and the list too
[01:40] <cyberanger> idk if that's realistic or not, but I'd like to have meeting reports, ideally with pictures
[01:40] <netritious> brb in 5
[01:40] <jfenn2199> You know what 1 sat a month (3rd) week I can commit to
[01:41] <cyberanger> if that's the saturday that works for you, and can become an event each time, shoot for it
[01:41] <cyberanger> and that helps me with one more nice thing to add to our application
[01:41] <jfenn2199> Alright well that's set for this region
[01:42] <cyberanger> I don't want you sitting alone bored either though, thus once a month doesn't have to be the same day each month
[01:42] <cyberanger> and btw, your currnet meetup is the 4th saturday
[01:43] <jfenn2199> Well I can always muster up people for MPC
[01:43] <cyberanger> perfect
[01:43] <jfenn2199> And maybe bring the good word of ubuntu to more people
[01:43] <netritious> back
[01:44] <cyberanger> so, 22nd (4th saturday) and the 19th (3rd sat.) or 26th?
[01:44] <netritious> I took a couple of pictures at the last meeting but no matter how much tweaking I did they still looked horrible, with barely a notice of the people in it
[01:44] <netritious> we were sitting beside a window on a bright sunny day :/
[01:44] <jfenn2199> 26th
[01:45] <cyberanger> netritious: eh, that's ok, we just ought to be having writeups (I guess our blog would be ideal, the wiki equally ideal)
[01:45] <netritious> regardless of which Sat it is in the month,  have Jan 22 open lol
[01:45] <cyberanger> so the 4th saturday each month, starting with Jan 22nd
[01:46] <cyberanger> for memphis (again, you two are the powerhouse atm, wow)
[01:46] <jfenn2199> Works by me and impromptu as the case may be
[01:47] <jfenn2199> Hey when Memphis is on its on!!
[01:47] <netritious> let's make it the 3rd sat, even though this one is in the 4th...can do?
[01:47] <cyberanger> it'd take me 4 days either way, jfenn2199 ?
[01:47] <jfenn2199> Ok works
[01:47] <cyberanger> (and a good pair of boots)
[01:48] <cyberanger> ok
[01:48] <cyberanger> and I'm working on an installfest kit, gonna give it a dry run at chattacon (more private testing than public, to get the gaming rigs up)
[01:48] <netritious> so every month, 3rd Sat, but this month 4th Sat is good? just double-checking
[01:48] <cyberanger> plan to howto that and get some install fests going, or at least have the ability
[01:48] <cyberanger> yes
[01:48] <netritious> and trying to confuse everyone lol
[01:48] <jfenn2199> Yep that's it
[01:49] <netritious> k cool
[01:49] <jfenn2199> Since that's it for west.... for mootbot?
[01:49] <cyberanger> so, installfest kit, this month applying to be an approved loco (so any documentations that is of use, send them my way)
[01:50] <cyberanger> I'm heading to chattacon again, on behalf of the loco
[01:50]  * cyberanger makes note, document this time
[01:50] <netritious> I plan on demo'ing some GNU Goodness at the meetup
[01:51] <jfenn2199> Send me a msg later tonight to remind me to check for the presentation netritious and I worked on which I presented to the city we can include that as well (even though it didn't become offical we still had it)
[01:51] <cyberanger> I'd like to get with #cooklug still, hiking boots isn't helpful (man, if I still had my stable job, not that I don't love my freelance work, but stable pay)
[01:51] <netritious> have you heard about that on the news jfenn2199?
[01:52] <cyberanger> I think that covers what I have, work with lugs, run events monthly at least (ideally) and a yearly event (chattacon) and our application
[01:52] <cyberanger> anything else?
[01:52] <jfenn2199> No but I spend 15 hours a day at work or on a bike or bus
[01:52] <netritious> it was on channel 5 last week how the council has to vote on the initiative, but the scope has changed since you spoke with the city though
[01:53] <jfenn2199> Really?
[01:53] <jfenn2199> Hmmm
[01:53] <netritious> yeah they are trying to go all thin client
[01:53] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: do you have anything you'd like to add?
[01:53] <chibihogoshino> not really..
[01:54] <cyberanger> netritious: ?
[01:54] <netritious> "...a central server used to consolidate all of the existing workstations and servers.." something like that...can't remember verbatim but that's close
[01:54] <netritious> I'm good cyberanger
[01:54] <cyberanger> jfenn2199: ?
[01:55] <jfenn2199> I think we've covered it all
[01:55] <cyberanger> ok, netritious can you get west tn up to date (if it's not) on documentation of it's meetings and shoot me a link of it, by say the 11th?
[01:55] <cyberanger> or jfenn2199 ?
[01:56] <netritious> we've only had the one in Sept? Oct? something like that...it wasn't cold outside yet
[01:56] <jfenn2199> The one I missed at mpc was sept
[01:57] <cyberanger> and I can cite it in our application?
[01:57] <netritious> yep
[01:57] <cyberanger> and older ones too?
[01:57] <cyberanger> ok, on our wiki?
[01:57] <jfenn2199> Info on those were on the forums
[01:57] <netritious> Dan9186, Svpernova09, Genphlux, "Rick," and myself were there
[01:57] <jfenn2199> But I need to bolt gotta get to my bus stop
[01:58] <cyberanger> ok, then i'll close the meeting and let everyone talk and bolt
[01:58] <cyberanger> #endmeeting
[01:58] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 19:58.
[01:58] <cyberanger> (that might have been our quickest meeting)
[01:59] <jfenn2199> Take it easy all maybe back on later
[01:59] <netritious> speaking of bolting...g2g jam...will swing by here sometime this weekend
[01:59] <cyberanger> ok
[01:59] <cyberanger> thank you both on joining in
[02:00] <cyberanger> hrm
[02:00]  * cyberanger wonders why goodbyes are much shorter now
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> heh
[02:02] <chibihogoshino> i guess people are doing allot more now
[02:05] <cyberanger> yeah, myself included
[02:05] <cyberanger> my case, looking for another stable job
[02:05] <cyberanger> http://timeanddate.com/s/1xug
[02:05] <chibihogoshino> good luck
[02:05] <cyberanger> ^ for anyone wanting to join in on the loco meeting ^
[02:06] <cyberanger> it will be held in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
[02:06] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: thanks
[02:42] <wrst> cyberanger a late pong
[02:50]  * wrst heads back to his home server
[03:18] <linuxman410> anyone here
[03:18] <linuxman410> wrst u here
[03:19] <linuxman410> cyberanger u here
[03:22] <cyberanger> yes
[03:23] <cyberanger> linuxman410:
[03:26] <cyberanger> linuxman410_:
[03:27] <linuxman410_> cyberanger how r u
[03:28] <wrst> hey linuxman410_
[03:28] <cyberanger> pretty good
[03:28] <linuxman410_> wrst how r u sorry i missed meeting harddrive failed
[03:28] <wrst> oh no linuxman410_ that sounds not good
[03:29] <linuxman410_> it is a sata drive so i have to save my money to get one
[03:30] <linuxman410_> have u ever tried lubuntu
[03:38] <wrst> hmm yes i have tried ita long time ago lin... oh
[03:57] <cyberanger> wrst: yep
[03:58] <cyberanger> same answer, even quicker to send it, but little point
[03:58] <cyberanger> he's so quick to leave
[04:48] <jfenn2199> Hello again all
[05:46] <cyberanger> hey jfenn2199
[05:46] <jfenn2199> How goes?
[05:49] <cyberanger> not bad
[05:52] <jfenn2199> That's good
[13:19] <chibihogoshino> morning
[13:20] <wrst> morning chibihogoshino hows it going?
[13:20] <chibihogoshino> cold
[13:21] <chibihogoshino> i want toast but have no butter
[13:21] <chibihogoshino> lol
[13:21] <wrst> yeah we have a little snow here nothign to make any trouble
[13:21] <wrst> ha ha
[13:21] <chibihogoshino> hows your day starting ?
[13:21] <wrst> pretty good chibihogoshino how about you?
[13:22] <chibihogoshino> same old,  same old..
[13:22] <chibihogoshino> look for work
[13:24] <wrst> i feel for you there, not a good tiem for that as you well know
[13:24] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[13:25] <chibihogoshino> only reason i want one right now is, i want ice cream and hot chocolate
[13:26] <wrst> hmm ice cream!
[13:27] <chibihogoshino> its not the best dinner but its soo good i cant help it
[13:28] <chibihogoshino> as long as it stays above freezing i dont mind winter
[13:29] <wrst> looks like you may not like winter today :)
[13:30] <chibihogoshino> its 35 here
[13:30] <chibihogoshino> if it started snowing im going to punch it
[13:31] <wrst> ground is slowly getting white here :)
[13:32] <chibihogoshino> hhmm
[13:32] <chibihogoshino> so far here nothing
[16:28] <Svpernova09> Missed the meeting last night >.< Was out doing a run to atoka to pickup a ms pac man machine
[16:31] <wrst> ms pacman :)
[16:49] <wrst> hello lengau
[16:49] <lengau> Hi wrst
[16:49] <wrst> how are things going lengau ?
[16:50] <lengau> Pretty well, and yourself?
[16:52] <wrst> doing well its a nice snowy friday here
[16:58] <lengau> No snow for us in Murfreesboro yet.
[17:04] <wrst> just enough to see it falling here really lengau
[17:56] <wrst> hello pace_t_zulu
[17:56] <pace_t_zulu> sup wrst
[17:56] <wrst> not much just trying to get friday under my belt
[17:56] <wrst> how about you?
[17:57] <pace_t_zulu> pretty much the same
[17:59] <wrst> i am thinking about joining the titans in their search for a quarterback this weekend  pace_t_zulu
[17:59] <pace_t_zulu> i'm glad they're embarking on that search
[18:00] <wrst> me too
[18:00] <wrst> i really would have loved to have seen it work out
[18:00] <wrst> he has talent but i fear not the desire
[18:01] <pace_t_zulu> yea, its a shame
[18:01] <pace_t_zulu> he got plenty of money for his trouble
[18:02] <wrst> oh yes
[18:11] <wrst> hello chris4585
[18:13] <chris4585> hey wrst
[18:14] <chris4585> just tried ubuntu alpha and it was a battle, I guess I'll wait until beta again
[18:14] <wrst> troubles chris4585 ?
[18:18] <chris4585> not really, alpha seems to be a mess and not usable at all
[18:22] <chris4585> even worse I didn't see much done to unity
[18:22] <wrst> when i can boot it i can do ok with it... did you download alpah1 or the daily?
[18:22] <chris4585> alpha1 and updated
[18:23] <chris4585> is there a difference if you're up to date?
[18:23] <wrst> no shouldn't be
[18:23] <wrst> it actually performed well for me save the booting issues
[18:24] <chris4585> does clicking on the ubuntu logo launch /usr/share/applications ?
[18:24] <chris4585> or does it actually do something?
[18:24] <wrst> no just opens the folder up but that is a work in progress
[18:24] <pace_t_zulu> launches /usr/share/applications right now... i'm sure that will change
[18:25] <wrst> yes i have read taht officially chris4585 , pace_t_zulu but dont' have it handy
[18:25] <wrst> i think maybe from jono
[18:26] <pace_t_zulu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity
[19:08] <wrst> netritious: welcome !
[19:16] <netritious> howdy wrst
[19:17] <wrst> day going well netritious ?
[19:17] <netritious> not to shabby wrst...yourself?
[19:19] <wrst> doing well netritious just killing the rest of a friday :)
[19:19] <netritious> nice :)
[19:20] <wrst> yes very and watching the snow fall... but not stick
[19:20] <netritious> no snow here yet
[19:21] <wrst> lots falling but none sticking maybe sledding is in my future :)
[20:19]  * wrst is getting to use ubuntu at work for a while
[20:32] <pace_t_zulu> network manager indicator applet has landed in natty http://i55.tinypic.com/r1fv5l.jpg
[20:45] <wrst> has it not been there pace_t_zulu ?
[20:52] <cyberanger> has it gotten stable
[20:53] <cyberanger> no kernel panic and weekly reinastall
[20:53] <wrst> ha ha not for me cyberanger  :\
[20:55] <cyberanger> shame
[20:55] <cyberanger> I was considering giving it a try
[20:57]  * cyberanger convinces wrst's ubuntu install that there is such a thing as the number two, kernel goes into a panic
[20:57] <wrst> well might work on your hardware when it boots for me cyberanger its really pretty good
[20:57] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: network manager was still in the old notification area... hadn't been ported to the new indicator framework
[20:58] <cyberanger> wrst: well, gnome did too, openbox just felt snappier
[20:59] <cyberanger> but I will be giving unity a try, at some point
[21:03] <cyberanger> I've got to if I keep installing ubuntu for others
[21:03] <wrst> ahh gotcha pace_t_zulu
[21:03] <wrst> cyberanger: i think unity has promise but i really don't look to this release being something that's going to make me think i gotta have it
[21:05] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i agree about unity... this release isn't about make or break... it is a step in the right direction toward a more modern gui
[21:08] <wrst> yeah and i really won't push 11.04 or dont think i will to anyone other than with the "classic" desktop but they might really pull it out too
[21:33] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: they are making good progress so far... but it don't think it will be all that in 11.04
[21:34] <pace_t_zulu> more like 11.10 or 12.04 LTS
[21:35] <wrst> agreed and they are making very good progress
[21:57] <cyberanger> thing is, I've had sucess pushing the oddballs more
[21:58] <cyberanger> netbook simplicity
[21:58] <cyberanger> but they work, unlike current unity builds
[21:59] <cyberanger> getting rid of xorg will be intresting
[21:59] <cyberanger> I've done that here
[22:00] <cyberanger> just not using wayland either
[22:14] <cyberanger> 11.10 will be intresting
[22:14] <cyberanger> see how much changes
[23:26] <wrst> oh pace_t_zulu happy birthday
[23:26] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: ty
[23:27] <wrst> who says facebook isn't useful
[23:35] <pace_t_zulu> haha
[23:35] <wrst> well if I'm going to sell all my info out to a great satan might as well be facebook :)
[23:38]  * cyberanger says facebook isn't useful
[23:40] <wrst> cyberanger: why? :P
[23:41] <cyberanger> I shall cite a previous statement....
[23:41] <cyberanger> 18:35:49           wrst | well if I'm going to sell all my info out to a great satan might as well be facebook :)
[23:45] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger
[23:45] <wrst> :)


[01:49] <jdarias> how can i get the info about packages and cpu temperature
[01:54] <jdarias> i mean the info that appears when a user logs in for the first time
[01:59] <jdarias> can i get that info by issuing a command in the console?
[02:00] <jdarias> hello???
[02:01] <jdarias> helloooooo! (everybody got the rage virus so nobody answers)
[02:33] <stiv2k> hi
[02:33] <stiv2k> my roundcube-webmail got hosed when trying to upgrade
[02:34] <stiv2k> something is wrong with the mysql database, it needs to be upgraded i think
[02:35] <stiv2k> if only i can figure out how to start the upgrade process agian for roundcube
[02:36] <giovani> sounds like a roundcube question then ...
[02:36] <stiv2k> i guess
[02:36] <stiv2k> giovani: how do i start the update process with apt(itude) again?
[02:37] <giovani> what update process?
[02:37] <stiv2k> when i began to update roundcube, it asked me a series of questions what to do about the database configuration.  i want to go back to that so i can try it again
[02:38] <giovani> was this in a web browser, or in the dpkg configuration?
[02:38] <stiv2k> dpkg configuration
[02:38] <stiv2k> it was a ncurses type of dialog
[02:38] <giovani> dpkg-reconfigure
[02:38] <stiv2k> nothing happens when i do dpkg-reconfigure roundcube
[02:39] <giovani> the package is roundcube-core or something, right?
[02:39] <stiv2k> ah yeah
[02:39] <stiv2k> roundcube-core
[02:40] <Alex_21> Hi, all,
[02:41] <Alex_21> I would like to scan my network since the ip of one of my servers changed after a router upgrade and I can't find it. I have NMAP, but I don't remember how to can <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[02:41] <Alex_21> Can someone help me?
[02:41] <Alex_21> Please
[02:41] <giovani> read the nmap manpage
[02:42] <giovani> it's very well-documented
[02:43] <Alex_21> I am having a hard time reading it
[02:43] <giovani> why?
[02:44] <Alex_21> I can only read small chunks of man pages because of my screen reader
[02:45] <giovani> page down
[02:45] <Alex_21> Nope
[02:45] <giovani> then fix your screen reader
[02:45] <giovani> or use google
[02:45] <giovani> to find an online copy of the manpage
[02:45] <giovani> ubuntu has a website for manpages
[02:46] <Alex_21> There is nothing wrong with my SR
[02:46] <giovani> there is if you can't page down
[02:46] <Alex_21> I was asking a simple question as I struggle through the Man page
[02:46] <giovani> I'm in favor of you finding the very well-documented answer, rather than handing it to you
[02:46] <Alex_21> No, there isn't. I can page down, but the way things work, I can't read what is in between pages
[02:47] <Alex_21> It is quite unusual behavior :(
[02:47] <giovani> use the up and down arrows to move one line at a time
[02:49] <Alex_21> It hits invisible barriers
[02:49] <Alex_21> It is a well-known but in Terminal
[02:49] <giovani> this is not normal behavior
[02:49] <giovani> anyway
[02:50] <giovani> I've said that you can find manpages on the web
[02:50] <giovani> ubuntu has a website for them
[02:50] <Alex_21> I am reading a hotow on it as we speak
[02:50] <Alex_21> Howto on it, ... Sorry
[02:50] <Alex_21> Also, it is usual behavior
[02:51] <Alex_21> It just is not ideal behavior
[02:51] <giovani> no, the default manpage reader doesn't hit "invisible barriers"
[02:51] <giovani> that's not normal behavior
[02:52] <Alex_21> With a screen reader it does
[02:52] <giovani> nope
[02:52] <Alex_21> It has as far back as I can remember on
[02:53] <Alex_21> I have used a screen reader for years. I think I know when I find a bug and it is reproducable accross machines
[02:55] <Alex_21> Unless you think differently, I am sure this is a bug
[02:56] <giovani> well there's no way to really prove this, or troubleshoot it -- did you find the manpage online?
[02:56] <Alex_21> I should call up software dev team staff on Monday and rereport it
[02:56] <Alex_21> I did not look. I found a nice walk-through though
[02:56] <Alex_21> So I am on my way
[02:57] <Alex_21> I realized my server isn't connected to the network even
[02:57] <Alex_21> It seems anyways
[02:57] <Alex_21> I'll bee back.
[02:58] <Alex_21> I'm going to go to the rack and fix it.
[02:58] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[02:58] <Alex_21> Good night
[03:59] <burn_> anyone have a package or something to show temp and other stats on a web page?
[04:00] <Hasbro> Hi
[04:01] <Hasbro> On my Ubuntu installation I cannot resolve anything without editing my hosts file :S I'll type ping google.com won't work unless I add that as an entry in my hosts file.
[04:01] <Clackamas> Hi, I need some help in trying to preserve my RAID moving from SuSE 10.3 -> Ubuntu 9.04.
[04:01] <Hasbro> Has anyone any ideas about this issue?
[04:01] <Clackamas> Do I need anything besides the UUID and disk mappings?
[04:01] <Clackamas> I am using the md driver.
[04:02] <Clackamas> Hasbro: you probably don't have DHCP set up correctly.
[04:02] <Hasbro> Any guides?
[04:02] <giovani> Hasbro: your DNS isn't configured or working properly, obviously
[04:03] <Hasbro> giovani, I use my provider's nameservers
[04:03] <giovani> which are?
[04:03] <Hasbro> • ns1.limestonenetworks.com
[04:03] <Hasbro> • ns2.limestonenetworks.com
[04:03] <Clackamas> Hasbro: what is in /etc/resolv.conf?
[04:03] <Hasbro> search arcemu.info
[04:03] <Hasbro> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:04] <giovani> Hasbro: those dns servers aren't returning records for the internet
[04:04] <Hasbro> How can we check?
[04:04] <giovani> and you are not specifying them in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:04] <giovani> i just did check
[04:04] <giovani> what makes you think you're using ns1 and ns2.limestonenetworks.com?
[04:04] <Hasbro> I set the domains to them
[04:04] <Hasbro> lol
[04:04] <giovani> uh
[04:04] <giovani> I think you may be confused how DNS works
[04:04] <Hasbro> Yes, wasn't thinking
[04:05] <Hasbro> wait so question
[04:05] <Hasbro> I did not edit
[04:05] <Hasbro> this
[04:05] <giovani> there's a huge difference between authoritative DNS and internet resolvers
[04:05] <Hasbro> and it was set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:05] <Hasbro> which if you go it in a browser, brings up a page
[04:05] <Clackamas> ns.limestonenetworks.com is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:05] <giovani> Clackamas: ignore that -- he's confusing his authoritative DNS for his domain with resolvers
[04:05] <Hasbro> what's ubuntu's default nameserver set to?
[04:05] <Hasbro> sorry
[04:05] <giovani> Hasbro: it's not set -- that perobably came from your DNS at cologuys
[04:05] <Hasbro> what resolver
[04:05] <giovani> err
[04:05] <giovani> DHCP
[04:06] <giovani> or cologuys configured it for you
[04:06] <Hasbro> nah
[04:06] <giovani> well someone configured the box
[04:06] <Hasbro> I run Ubuntu in a vm on windows
[04:06] <giovani> haha
[04:06] <Clackamas> giovani I will let you drive.
[04:06] <Hasbro> It doesn't set to anything by default?
[04:06] <giovani> Hasbro: no, of course not
[04:06] <giovani> that's up to you to configure
[04:06] <Hasbro> so if I leave it blank, what will happen?
[04:06] <giovani> you won't be able to resolve domains
[04:06] <Hasbro> giovani, so question
[04:07] <Hasbro> since I run it in a vm on windows, can I just get what ever my windows one
[04:07] <Hasbro> is set to?
[04:07] <giovani> yes ... but you'd have to configure your vm software properly
[04:07] <Hasbro> also, might I ask what the search line is for?
[04:07] <Hasbro> search arcemu.info
[04:07] <giovani> to either pass that ... or find the information in the windows host, and copy it
[04:07] <Hasbro> in resolve.conf
[04:07] <giovani> it's for automatically appending that domain on non-FQDN names you attempt to resolve
[04:07] <giovani> i.e. ping foo
[04:07] <giovani> will search DNS for foo.arcemu.info
[04:07] <Hasbro> oh
[04:08] <Hasbro> so ping google.com
[04:08] <Hasbro> is searching forr google.com.arcemu.info maybe?
[04:08] <giovani> no
[04:08] <Hasbro> hrm
[04:08] <giovani> google.com is a FQDN
[04:08] <giovani> your DNS is broken, obviously
[04:08] <Hasbro> could you check if <IP_ADDRESS> is a resolver?
[04:08] <Hasbro> maybe it's vmware's settings which are fubared
[04:08] <giovani> well it only has settings you give it
[04:09] <giovani> but no, <IP_ADDRESS> is not resolving domains for me
[04:09] <giovani> however
[04:09] <giovani> that's a cologuys IP
[04:09] <Hasbro> cologuys?
[04:09] <giovani> so it's possibly limited to the internal network
[04:09] <giovani> that's your IP space owner
[04:09] <giovani> whomever you rent a server from is either cologuys, or is a customer of cologuys
[04:09] <Hasbro> I see
[04:09] <Hasbro> but the thing is
[04:09] <giovani> this is a question for your provider
[04:10] <Hasbro> I haven't modified any of this, and it worked on friday morning
[04:10] <giovani> not #ubuntu-server
[04:10] <Hasbro> and then it stopped working
[04:10] <giovani> maybe their DNS server is broken now
[04:10] <Hasbro> hrm
[04:10] <giovani> once again, this is a question for your provider
[04:10] <Hasbro> I'll contact support, 1 moment
[04:10] <giovani> ubuntu is working perfectly
[04:11] <Hasbro> giovani, do you have a server I could use to resolve domains off of?
[04:11] <giovani> no
[04:11] <Hasbro> what is yours set to then?
[04:11] <giovani> they're set to opendns
[04:11] <giovani> by way of a caching resolver
[04:11] <Hasbro> so are there free resolvers out there?
[04:11] <giovani> yes
[04:12] <Hasbro> which is open dns?
[05:13] <Hasbro> giovani
[05:13] <Hasbro> could I setup my own dns server?
[05:13] <Hasbro> on the machine?
[05:17] <Jomyoot> If NFS volume in /etc/fstab fails to mount. then will machine fail to boot?
[05:19] <Hasbro> giovani, nevermind found my own answer and a nice guide :)
[05:19] <Hasbro> cheers
[05:20] <Hasbro> Jomyoot was yours deleted or soemthing?
[05:20] <Hasbro> something*
[05:20] <Jomyoot> no
[05:20] <Jomyoot> just wondering in case
[05:20] <Jomyoot> in case the NFS server is offline
[05:21] <Hasbro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=355869
[05:21] <Hasbro> check that out
[05:21] <Jomyoot> because anything /etc/fstab has problem it seems to locks up machine
[05:27] <kjkjava> Hey there
[05:29] <kjkjava> I'm having some trouble setting up Ubuntu Server 9.04 LAMP on the network side of things
[05:30] <kjkjava> I have set port forwarding on 80 and 22
[05:30] <kjkjava> and an online port scanner shows them as open
[05:30] <kjkjava> (and only them)
[05:31] <kjkjava> Also, web pages pull up fine on the internal IP
[05:31] <kjkjava> and same with SSH (works internally, external port is open, but still nothing)
[06:01] <kjkjava> okay, so even though tracerts can't make it to my global IP, my friend (outside of the network) was able to get to my site
[06:01] <kjkjava> and so was a proxy
[06:02] <kjkjava> so it looks like everyone outside of my network can get to me via my external IP
[06:03] <kjkjava> so my new question is, why won't it work from the inside?
[06:03] <kjkjava> but I'm happy, I suppose
[11:44] <fbc-mx> Could someone tell me how(or point me in the right direction) to implement Event MPM on my server?
[12:40] <Anirban1987>  i am having problem while upgrading SQL server. http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5562/ubuntu20090621163808.png
[12:42] <anirban>  i am having problem while upgrading SQL server. http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5562/ubuntu20090621163808.png
[12:48] <pmatulis> anirban: it looks like you are mixing up debian and ubuntu packages
[12:50] <anirban> pmatulis : Isn't ubuntu and debian packages same ?
[12:52] <anirban> Then how to upgrade SQL server to 5.1.34 in Ubuntu ?
[12:54] <pmatulis> anirban: no they're not the same
[12:54] <pmatulis> anirban: just upgrade your system in the normal way
[12:54] <pmatulis> $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[12:55] <anirban> pmatulis : But it is stuck in SQL server 5.0.67 in Ubuntu 9.04 server. Where the current release is 5.1.35
[12:55] <pmatulis> first of all, it's not 'SQL server'.  it's 'MySQL server'
[12:57] <pmatulis> anirban: i see 5.0.75 for jaunty
[13:10] <Hecate> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mysql-server&searchon=names&suite=jaunty&section=all
[13:11] <Hecate> anirban, universe already offers the mysql server version 5.1.31-1
[13:11] <anirban> Hecate : But how to get that ?
[13:12] <Hecate> enable universe and install the package
[13:46] <anirban> I have uninstalled the unsupported package and installed the universe package. Still it is showing error : http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5184/ubuntu20090621181240l.png
[13:49] <Hecate> anirban, what happens when you invoke "invoke-rc.d mysql start"?
[13:50] <anirban> Hecate : Same error
[13:50] <Hecate> any output?
[13:51] <anirban> Same error that was showing earlier.
[13:51] <Hecate> except for the "fail"?
[13:52] <anirban> action start failed
[13:53] <Hecate> i need sth to work with. any details in the syslog?
[13:54] <anirban> where to get the syslog ? Plz help
[13:56] <Hecate> /var/log/messages
[13:56] <Hecate> maybe there's sth in /var/log/mysql/ too-
[13:58] <anirban> There is something like denied_mask="::r"
[13:59] <anirban> Hecate : Can u hav an SSH access and look into the problem ?
[13:59] <Hecate> maybe the current apparmor profile is not compatible with mysql-5.1, but that's just a guess
[13:59] <Hecate> if you consider me trustworthy enough, i could.
[14:00] <anirban> Coming to private chat
[14:29] <mobi-sheep> I'm thinking about creating a Ubuntu Home Theater PC Server --- Preferably XBMC.  What could you run on server that would benefit me (the home user) the most?
[14:30] <mobi-sheep> And on the side note, I'm fairly experienced with Ubuntu already.  I want to dip my feet in the server / networking area more. :)
[14:35] <giovani> mobi-sheep: ubuntu-server has the same packages as the desktop version
[14:35] <giovani> so there's really little-to-no difference from a what-will-run perspective
[14:38] <mobi-sheep> giovani: I mean literally hooking it up to a HDMI television in living room so I would like to avoid the GUI.  In a way, I'm saying that I want to set it up to run XBMC as a default session.  I also looked at LIRC remote control.  I only want to know what I could do that would benefit me or my local network.
[14:39] <giovani> well xbmc is a gui
[14:39] <giovani> and has to run on xorg
[14:39] <mobi-sheep> giovani: Few packages would be fine for starters.  It'll give me something to look at.
[14:40] <giovani> I don't know what you're asking for though
[14:40] <mobi-sheep> Does that mean I have to install Ubuntu-desktop or will xorg be sufficient?
[14:40] <giovani> it means running xbmc on ubuntu-server might be a bit of a mess
[14:40] <mobi-sheep> giovani: I simply want to learn more about server packages.
[14:40] <giovani> it's most certainly possible
[14:40] <giovani> mobi-sheep: there are thousands
[14:41] <giovani> given that xbmc is a desktop-oriented application, it's not supported here
[14:43] <mobi-sheep> giovani: Heh.  Alright.  I'm copying system files for XBMC live to usb at the moment.  Thanks for the small talk.  I'll figure out what I'm trying to do.  I think I'm trying to achieve a ultimate HTPC + Home Server type thingy. :)
[14:59] <ruben23> hi
[15:04] <ruben23> hi how do i change hostname on ubuntu server
[15:05] <_ruben> find all files on the system that refer to the old name, change to new name, reboot :P
[15:20] <ruben23> are there modprobe.conf setting on ubuntu server
[15:20] <Hecate> ruben23, basically that would be /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts, but as _ruben said a 'grep -r "`hostname`" /etc' can't hurt
[15:23] <ruben23> Hecate:ok, but how about modprobe.conf can i find that on ubuntu or what is the equivalent config for that on ubuntu
[15:23] <giovani> ruben23: ubuntu uses the modprobe.d structure
[15:23] <giovani> look at /etc/modprobe.d/
[15:29] <ruben23> giovani:its empty
[15:29] <giovani> right
[15:29] <ruben23> is it normal
[15:29] <giovani> yes ... if you'd like to place something you would've placed in modprobe.conf, you do it there
[15:30] <ruben23> im trying to find and load the module of  Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105 [Rhine-III] (rev 8b)
[15:30] <ruben23> i install it on the pci but not detected
[15:30] <ruben23> by the ubuntu server machne
[15:31] <giovani> ok, and?
[15:32] <ruben23> if theres module for via-rhine i might load it
[15:32] <giovani> understood
[15:32] <giovani> so load it
[15:35] <ruben23> giovani:don know how
[15:37] <giovani> sudo modprobe via-rhine
[15:39] <ruben23> giovani: i got it worked
[15:39] <ruben23> thans
[15:39] <ruben23> thanks
[16:40] <ruben23> hi
[16:40] <ruben23> if i have
[16:40] <metalfan___> or maybe  not
[16:40] <ruben23> 2 nics for my ubuntut server
[16:41] <ruben23> i do the setting still on the /etc/network/interfaces
[16:41] <ruben23> how would it be written
[16:41] <giovani> ruben23: "man interfaces"
[16:42] <metalfan___> ruben23, next time please write your question before posting it, check if for logical mistakes, for spelling mistakes. thx
[16:42] <metalfan___> it
[16:44] <ruben23> metalfan___:ok
[16:44] <metalfan___> somehow my via epia-mII board starts the installation, but after i leave the first "gui" screen some kernel messages scroll by and then it says "Trying..." which results in a "signal out of range" message from my monitor? doesnt ubuntu server always start a console gui?
[16:45] <metalfan___> also F5/F6 seen to be not working, no menu pops up after pressing
[16:50] <_gpg_> hello
[16:57] <_gpg_> Hello
[16:57] <_gpg_> i'm interested to use bazaar since few days, but stuck with some items
[16:57] <_gpg_> The "Decentralized with automatic gatekeeper" is what i need with my team actually, i cant find any documentation about how to use/set PQM server
[16:58] <_gpg_> anyone can help please
[16:59] <giovani> _gpg_: you're likely to get better help in the official bazaar channel: #bzr
[17:00] <_gpg_> giovani,  thank you
[17:32] <durt> I need to virus-scan some .pdfs the occasional multimedia file and the occasional windows .exe. Can anyone get me up to speed with the recommended AV package?
[17:36] <giovani> durt: clamav
[17:37] <ruben23> hi tried installing linux-headers but got this message http://pastebin.com/m763b37fb
[17:38] <giovani> ruben23: follow the instruction it gave you
[17:39] <ruben23> yeah i did got this http://pastebin.com/m28594742
[17:40] <giovani> you didn't write the package name correctly
[17:40] <giovani> please use some common sense before pasting these as if they're errors
[17:41] <ruben23> O:-)
[18:59] <blacksunseven> hello
[18:59] <blacksunseven> i'm looking for some help with apache2 (securing it, ssl only, etc.)
[19:04] <Hasbro> giovani you here?
[19:04] <Hasbro> I updated my resolver if I didn't say so last night :)
[19:33] <kjkjava> Is there a recommended FTP daemon? or will anything do (proftp, vsftpd)?
[19:40] <slestak_> anyone good with gparted?  Im trying to shuffle some space out of a logical partition sda4 out to a primary partition sda3?
[19:40] <_ruben> kjkjava: its a matter of personal preference combined with your list wishes/requirements :)
[19:40] <slestak_> right now i am just one by one, copying the space left in gparted, one fs at a time
[19:51] <jdarias> i have ubuntu server installed on a laptop. Is it possible to have dpms off everytime i boot it?
[19:52] <jdarias> currently i have to issue sudo vbetool dpms off to turn off the screen (that´s what i want to do)
[19:59] <_ruben> jdarias: put "vbetool dpms off" in /etc/rc.local oughta do the trick i'd say
[19:59] <jdarias> nobody?
[20:00] <jdarias> gonna check that now ruben! :) ty
[20:02] <jdarias> brb, will tell you if it worked or not.
[20:07] <jdarias> it worked, ruben, thank you very much!
[20:08] <_ruben> nice :)
[20:10] <slestak_> _ruben: would you know how to troubleshoot a usplash problem on a laptop?  It is the only one (of like 20 installs) i have seen the usplash screen distorted.  on livecd boot, it looks correct
[20:10] <Hasbro> slestak_, does the livecd use it's own drivers?
[20:11] <slestak_> Hasbro: i dont know.  This is not a server problem, we can take to to pm or #ubuntu if anyone has a problem with OT
[20:11] <slestak_> i would think the 9.04 livecd would use its own drivers, probably nv, i am using nvidia accel driver with hd install
[20:11] <Hasbro> Might be best to try #ubuntu ;)
[20:12] <slestak_> i was over there (still am) I was talking to _ruben over there, and saw him over here as well
[20:12] <slestak_> sorry, i know its OT
[20:13] <slestak_> im doing some gparted amnipulations rignt now, so i'll save the usplash problem for another day
[20:17] <slestak_> i have 60g available in a logical partition sda4, i really need to get it out of there and into a new primary partition
[20:17] <slestak_> i have moved it up to the front of the logical partition, but do not see how to take it any further
[20:18] <_ruben> lvm for the win! ;)
[20:18] <slestak_> is that the only solution?
[20:18] <slestak_> i mean, am i screwed with this install, i can redo it,m just reying to extend and learn
[20:18] <_ruben> probably not, but sure makes things easier
[20:19] <_ruben> and whats the real underlying problem? why do you need to move the space ?
[20:19] <slestak_> im trying to get xp home onto a primary partition, basically dual boot - ubuntu installed first
[20:20] <slestak_> i kinda planned ahead, i have jaunty in an extended partition
[20:20] <_ruben> "best" practice is to install windows first .. its has a deep love for the first primary partition, and destroys any unknown bootloaders
[20:21] <slestak_> yeah
[20:21] <slestak_> well, i keep good backups, im gonna just redo it.
[20:21] <slestak_> ty for your counsel :) happy fathers day to you dads in here
[20:58] <ghostlines> I don't want to use openvpn's script cuz I already have a bridge setiup
[22:11] <ErikWestrup> How do I, in the terminal, choose what interface to use for internet connections? I want to use 'dnep0' but right now the system uses another wirless interface.
[22:19] <pmatulis> ErikWestrup: your wireless card was autoconfigured on the server?
[22:58] <ErikWestrup> nvm, I found a way out from the cloud of confusion and found a solution. :-)
[23:08] <hamush> does anyone know if dapper is still supported with security updates? last i heard, it was supposed to be supported, at least for server components, until 2011, but i keep on reading that it has lots of open CVEs and is not safe to be using.
[23:30] <diffra> sdf
[23:43] <pmatulis> ErikWestrup: what was your solution?
[23:51] <stiv2k> hi
[23:51] <stiv2k> what is this error mean
[23:51] <stiv2k> Connection for controluser as defined in your configuration failed.
[23:51] <stiv2k> getting it from mysql
[23:51] <stiv2k> phpmyadmin
[23:53] <ajmitch> stiv2k: check the username & password for that user in the phpmyadmin config
[23:56] <stiv2k> hmm
[23:56] <stiv2k> its just set to $dbuser and $dbpass
[23:57] <stiv2k> i fixed it by commenting those two lins out


[07:18] <ochosi> bluesabre: i havent pushed it anywhere yet, it's just a prototype
[22:08] <flocculant> bluesabre - marked us ready for artful.1
[23:51] <pleia2> rebooting the dev server for the kernel patch
[23:54] <pleia2> all good now :)


[20:06] <luk3yx> Why do my snap's plugs not auto-connect if the core18 snap (the "base" one) is installed and the core snap isn't?


[15:38] <danMS> @blackboxsw - did you or the team got a chance to check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1779207 ?
[15:39] <blackboxsw> danMS: didn't quite yet. but it's on my radar for today. (was working on the azure-write-network-each-boot branch yesterday
[15:39] <danMS> ah great - thanks!
[15:41] <blackboxsw> thanks for the ping. danMS can you attach full cloud-init logs to the bug (you can grab them running "sudo cloud-init collect-logs" on the commandline if cloud-init is >= 17.2
[15:42] <danMS> will do
[15:42] <blackboxsw> thank you
[16:11] <blackboxsw> +1 on bug response https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1779847 rharper . yeah I had just finished that validation too :/
[16:12] <blackboxsw> was going to grab tip to be certain.
[16:12] <rharper> blackboxsw: well, nightly build failed
[16:13] <rharper> but what's currently in the repo seems fine
[16:13] <rharper> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/cloud-init/cloud-init-dev/build/773236/
[16:13] <rharper> haven't looked at it yet
[16:13] <blackboxsw> yeah I had run against 18.2.4 in el-testing
[16:14] <blackboxsw> 18.2.5 rather
[16:14] <rharper> ould not retrieve mirrorlist http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=epel-7&arch=x86_64 error was
[16:14] <rharper> 14: HTTP Error 503 - Service Unavailable
[16:14] <rharper> not a cloud-init problem, infra problem
[16:14] <rharper> blackboxsw: yeah; they mentioned daily
[16:17] <blackboxsw> yeah just also validated the recent get_linux_distro() logic in cloud-init and added a comment there
[16:17] <blackboxsw> python -c 'from cloudinit.util import get_linux_distro; print(get_linux_distro())'
[16:17] <blackboxsw> ('centos', '7', 'x86_64')
[16:18] <blackboxsw> something smells funky with that bug
[16:18] <blackboxsw> anyway. on to other things


[19:25] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:31] <ajmitch> morning
[20:06] <thomi> morning
[20:26] <Atamira> morning
[21:37] <ojwb> morning
[21:51] <thumper> morning
[22:28] <kcj> Morning.
[22:28] <mwhudson> morning!
[22:52] <ojwb> aha, so my dvb-t card hasn't just stopped working - they've changed all the frequencies in wellington
[22:56] <snail> ojwb: yep, they have been broadcasting warnings about it for days
[22:56] <ojwb> i've not seen any
[22:59] <snail> ojwb: there's a special out of band digital warning that comes up when you change channel on either of our TVs
[22:59] <snail> i'm sure there's a name for it, but it don't know what it is
[23:00] <ojwb> either mythtv doesn't show it, or else I've not manually changed channel recently
[23:00] <snail> been showing since friday i think
[23:01]  * ibeardslee saw it on Tuesday last week


[16:58] <wrst> ok so doing a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y on a phone is pretty cool
[21:24] <Unit193> wrst: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge ;sudo apt-get autoclean  too!
[21:25] <wrst> well I ran into issues, i could receive calls but not make them :)
[21:33] <wrst> but Unit193 its not as terrible as it was wouldn't use it full time but I could see myself considering it sometime


[16:21] <DarkTrick> Can someone tell me about the currently used sources for the package gjiten?
[16:22] <DarkTrick> I thought its here https://packages.ubuntu.com/groovy/gjiten or here https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gjiten. But it rather looks like this git repo is used: https://github.com/2ion/gjiten
[16:22] <DarkTrick> I'd like to develop for the (afaik currently undeveloped) gjiten package, but I cant find a starting point


[04:37] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF opened [pull request #253](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/253): Fix BadBufferTest.test_truncated_shm_file... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/611c9c6f253a245ccdaf50a31ac8da74c2cb845f>)
[07:16] <RAOF> Good news, everyone! Looks like Mir CI can't reach the archive!
[08:38] <Saviq> It's worse, non-Ubuntu containers fail to get an address…
[08:39] <Saviq> Oh I wonder.
[08:39] <Saviq> Yup. GH moved to jammy, need to look into what's wrong there
[08:41] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq opened [pull request #2736](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2736): spread: move back to focal
[08:41] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[08:41] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > Until we fix stuff fo jammy.
[08:43] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** Saviq opened [pull request #254](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/254): spread: move back to focal
[08:43] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[08:43] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > Until we fix stuff fo jammy.
[08:43] <Saviq> I'm told LXD needs massaging on jammy, so I'll look into that
[08:49] <Saviq> Also. Good morning o/
[08:49] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq edited [pull request #2736](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2736): spread/snap: move back to focal
[09:20] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #254](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/254): spread: move back to focal
[10:01] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #245](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/245): Create surface in primary selection tests
[10:01] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #248](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/248): c++20
[13:57] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq opened [issue #2737](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2737): Cross-building stopped working…... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/89b1d19b8c4596cfacdeeaae533d5d24c59b9bf1>)
[13:57] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq edited [issue #2737](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2737): Cross-building stopped working…
[14:55] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths merged [pull request #2736](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2736): spread/snap: move back to focal
[15:28] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #253](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/253): Fix BadBufferTest.test_truncated_shm_file
[16:17] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/ubuntu-frame-vnc]** Saviq opened [issue #4](https://github.com/MirServer/ubuntu-frame-vnc/issues/4): `edge` doesn't build: ../src/meson.build:53:0: ERROR: Dependency "jansson" not found, tried pkgconfig... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/947303e7aaf97a8582cfbe164c321103930211fa>)
[17:06] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq marked [pull request #2645](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2645): platform/buffer_from_wl_shm: Handle clients immediately destroying the buffer as ready for review
[17:07] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq unassigned  from [pull request #2645](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2645): platform/buffer_from_wl_shm: Handle clients immediately destroying the buffer
[17:07] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq assigned  to [pull request #2645](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2645): platform/buffer_from_wl_shm: Handle clients immediately destroying the buffer
[17:08] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq assigned  to [pull request #2645](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2645): platform/buffer_from_wl_shm: Handle clients immediately destroying the buffer
[17:25] <Saviq> I bid you good night o/