[19:49] <Bashing-om> UWN: Houston, we have a problem ! Attempting to access https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue751 -- results in "504 Gateway Time-out" for me. Will another try to access our template to verify that the issue is not within my system.
[19:53] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Rather slowly, but eventually it loads on me..
[19:54] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Thanks - maybe my ole system is now just too slow ! Lemme keep trying.
[19:56] <krytarik> Nah, I think it's safe to assume the slow part on the side of the wiki here as usual.. >_>
[19:58] <Bashing-om> krytarik: 6th try was the charm - I am now logged into our WIKI - beginning to make up our next issue. :D
[20:26] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Evolution Email Client Now Uses a Headerbar/CSD @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/09/evolution-mail-client-new-header-bar (by Joey Sneddon)
[22:14] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue751 up for review and final edits: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue751 \o/


[06:23] <lordievader> Good morning,
[07:54] <Mirv> mgraesslin: so yes, also the kwin's qtbase "private" symbol use was not really private anymore. with 5.4.1 the symbols files will be at better shape.
[07:54] <mgraesslin> Mirv: awesome, thanks for looking into it
[08:44] <Riddell> valorie: all shiny vivid?
[08:47] <valorie> yep
[08:47] <valorie> so far everything is working well
[08:47] <valorie> I just installed dropbox successfully
[08:48] <valorie> working my way through the backlog of email
[11:26] <sitter> Riddell: btw, releaseme going to move to master this week at some point
[11:27] <Riddell> sitter: ooh nice, what's going to happen with the old branch?
[11:27] <Riddell> sitter: I have some crappy plasma specific bits, where should they go?
[11:28] <sitter> I moved them to a subdirectory for now
[11:28] <sitter> read you mail :P
[11:29] <sitter> as for the branching ... current master -> kdelibs4 && rewrite -> new master
[12:05] <sitter> hm
[12:05] <sitter> Mirv: we don't have qtwayland packaged?
[12:06] <sitter> or well, in the archive, it's packaged on git.debian
[12:29] <Mirv> sitter: no, it's in Debian NEW queue (for 2 months)
[12:33] <sitter> bummer
[12:33] <sitter> mgraesslin: will we need qtwayland in 15.04 at all?
[12:33] <sitter> or ... perhaps the question should be does it make sense to have it in 15.04
[12:34] <mgraesslin> sitter: turn it around? Why would you not want to have QtWayland in 15.04?
[12:34] <mgraesslin> it's released
[12:35] <mgraesslin> it allows running Qt applications under Wayland
[12:35] <mgraesslin> e.g. on Weston or GNOME Shell
[12:35] <sitter> mgraesslin: because it's not in debian yet xD
[12:35] <mgraesslin> because debian doesn't have Qt 5.4?
[12:35] <sitter> Mirv: any objections to going for a FFe for qtwayland?
[12:36] <sitter> mgraesslin: well yeah, we are a derivate of debian after all :P
[12:36] <Mirv> sitter: by all means, the more Qt the merrier :)
[12:37] <Mirv> sitter: I'm going to file one for Qt 5.4.1 in general too (it's kind of bugfixes only of course but...)
[12:38] <sitter> Mirv: do you maybe want to include qtwayland in that one? ;)
[12:38] <alket> where is shutdown located in plasm5 xD
[12:38] <Mirv> mgraesslin: Debian has Qt 5.4 but Debian is in freeze so a) it's in experimental b) ftp masters are not so interested in new source packages while a release is being readied
[12:38] <alket> why is it a widget in desktop
[12:38] <sitter> alket: #plasma
[12:39] <alket> thanks
[12:40] <Mirv> sitter: I think it'd be simpler if qtwayland 5.4.0 would be already in when I aim to get 5.4.1 in, so that not waiting for 5.4.1 (>= two weeks from now)
[12:40] <sitter> ok
[12:40]  * sitter will file paper work in a bit
[12:41] <Mirv> everyone loves paper work :)
[12:41] <Mirv> thanks
[12:42]  * sitter wonders why kiten has a library
[12:43] <sitter> Riddell: wanna hunt down upstream and find out why they have a public library no 3rd party uses?
[12:43] <Riddell> kiten? what's kiten?
[12:43] <sitter> japanese learning app
[12:43] <Riddell> is it the wee cat that walks about the desktop?
[12:43] <Riddell> sitter: does it cause a problem?
[12:43] <sitter> 猫
[12:43] <sitter> Riddell: it broke ABI in kdelibs4 times
[12:43] <yofel> japanese reference tool - didn't know we had that ^^
[12:44] <sitter> Riddell: just wondering if it really needs to be public. not having to worry about ABI sounds like a boon for both upstream and us
[12:45] <sitter> I really wonder how we can make the apps packaging less bulky
[12:45] <sitter> there's some 20 repos that we don't integrate because I didn't know they were ported/merged
[12:45] <Riddell> sitter: it has a library but it's part of the same source package, can't we just assume it's private and package it together with the app?
[12:46] <sitter> Riddell: we can ask upstream to assume that for us
[13:23] <ScottK> Riddell: https://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2015/03/msg00004.html
[13:25] <Riddell> ScottK: meh, ok
[13:32] <soee> someone on konversation & vivid ?
[13:32] <soee> *Plasma 5 ? :)
[13:33] <mitya57> sitter, mgraesslin: qtwayland is already in Debian'
[13:33] <mitya57> *Debian's NEW queue
[13:34] <ScottK> Riddell: Affects Qt5 too.
[13:36] <Riddell> that pesky rich moore, always finding problems
[13:50] <sitter> ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1427225
[13:50] <ScottK> Will try and look later today.
[13:51] <sitter> どうも
[13:54] <mitya57> ScottK: while you look at it, maybe you also can approve the package in Debian so that it can be directly synced?
[13:54] <ScottK> That was my plan.
[13:55] <mitya57> Thanks!
[14:24] <Riddell> sitter: weekly images are running kde master currently right?
[14:24] <sitter> Riddell: yes
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:36] <sitter> CMake Error at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/phonon4qt5/PhononTargets.cmake:85 (message):
[14:36] <sitter>   The imported target "Phonon::phonon4qt5experimental" references the file
[14:36] <sitter> it really won't get solved unless I fix it, will it?
[16:23] <Riddell> sitter: I'm wanting to package kdeconnect-plasma5, kdeconnect-kde is maintained by someone unrelated to pkg-kde team in debian, do you think I should put it in debian git and where?
[16:24] <Riddell> pkg-kde/kde-extras seems to be the place
[16:31] <sitter> Riddell: yeah, extras is the place to be
[16:31]  * sitter out
[16:31] <alket> any plan about better support for GTK as in theme and filetype ?
[16:31] <alket> gtk looks very ugly , also openin files from fireforx , like opening a directory, it opens with Gwenview
[16:33] <Riddell> alket: yes it's on the todo
[16:33] <Riddell> I've a patch in reviewboard I need to remind myself of
[16:33] <Riddell> and it probably needs something added to the seed
[16:33] <Riddell> any help apprecitated :)
[16:42] <alket> great :)
[17:13] <Riddell> hi?
[17:13] <soee> hi
[17:13] <Riddell> not you :)
[17:13] <Riddell> hi BobVann__
[17:13] <soee> :D
[17:14] <BobVann__> Hello. As I sad, I would love to work for the project of porting Ubiquity to Qt5
[17:14] <_Groo_> hi
[17:15] <Riddell> BobVann__: cool, do you know anything about python or pyqt?
[17:15] <lordievader> BobVann__: Whoo fancy :D
[17:15] <BobVann__> Yes, I know Python. PyQt not so well
[17:16] <alket> I know PyQt
[17:16] <Riddell> BobVann__: it's actually a pretty simple project just the porting, so it would also include some bug fixes and further maintinance tasks
[17:16] <_Groo_> i know how to use "the computers"
[17:17] <alket> Im trying to do a Qt por for pavucontrol
[17:17] <Riddell> there was one other student asking about it in here but he didn't stay around to get an answer
[17:17] <_Groo_> alket: wouldnt be more interesting to port veromix to kf5?
[17:17] <Riddell> and another person was asking for general things to help on and I pointed him to that, I can't remember who it was just now
[17:18] <_Groo_> Riddell is getting senile...
[17:18] <BobVann__> As I have seen, there already is a Qt version of Ubiquity, so the porting will be from qt4 to qt5? or from gtk?
[17:19] <Riddell> BobVann__: yes, from qt4 to 5
[17:19] <Riddell> BobVann__: a review of whether there's any features in gtk that should be added to the qt side would be good too
[17:19] <BobVann__> Ok thank you
[17:19] <_Groo_> BobVann__: ubiquity is an engine, the part you are supposed to port is the kde interface, in this case from qt4 to qt5
[17:20] <_Groo_> BobVann__: checking for the gtk part for missing features is a plus i guess
[17:21] <BobVann__> and all the debug will need to be made on a live system I guess
[17:21] <Riddell> BobVann__: so I guess to impress me you have the skills you need you should start with some pyqt app
[17:22] <alket> _Groo_: isn't vermoix already in Qt, also c++ (which i dont know)
[17:22] <Riddell> BobVann__: one useful task I know needs done is porting the kapptemplate pyqt template to pyqt5
[17:22] <Riddell> alas I don't think pykde5 exists as yet
[17:23] <_Groo_> alket: no, its a plasmoid for kde4 and is written in python. i dont have time to port it myself :(
[17:24] <_Groo_> alket: https://code.google.com/p/veromix-plasmoid/
[17:24] <_Groo_> alket: the best part which you wont find in any other platform is this (IMHO) swh-plugins / ladspa-swh-plugins (for equalizer and other effects)
[17:25] <_Groo_> it was my goto sound plasmoid in kde 4
[17:25] <BluesKaj> konversation in 15.04 beta still using a lot of cpu on my pc, 100% on one core and the load doesn't share to the other core to give some cooling relief, so i have to switch to 14.10 to keep things sane
[17:25] <_Groo_> kmix is better now, but veromix in its current form is still better, pitty it doesnt work in kf5
[17:25] <BobVann__> where will I find the code of kapptemplate?
[17:26] <Riddell> BobVann__: projects.kde.org   it's in a git repository
[17:26] <lordievader> alket: Nice :)
[17:26] <BobVann__> ok thank you
[17:30] <BobVann__> and am I supposed to port only the Python part?
[17:31] <Riddell> BobVann__: for the kapptemplate task you should make a new template for pyqt5 based on the pyqt4app template
[17:31] <Riddell> BobVann__: but before that maybe find some tutorials and see if you can make a simple hello world application
[17:32] <BobVann__> Yes sure, I will learn from the beginning. I am just trying to understand very well what this projects consists of
[17:33] <Riddell> BobVann__: and stick around on this irc channel, that's a good way to get into the community :)
[17:33] <Riddell> and #kde-devel for general kde stuff
[17:34] <BobVann__> Ok thank you very much :)
[18:46] <_Groo_> Riddell: are you using calligra words 2.9?
[18:46] <_Groo_> Riddell: i found a behaviour i dont know if its a bug, a packaging error or a feature, lol...
[18:47] <_Groo_> Riddell: when you open a odf file it works has intended, but if you go and try to open a doc or rtf (not docx) it asks what type of document it is, and then it opens.. are the packages missing the MIME types? or its intended behaviour?
[18:48] <Riddell> _Groo_: sounds like an upstream bug
[18:48] <Riddell> maybe packaging, let me try
[18:49] <Riddell> _Groo_: words fine for me
[18:49] <Riddell> so it would be a problem with the .doc files you're opening
[18:49] <_Groo_> Riddell: it doesnt ask for the type of file?
[18:49] <Riddell> or it could be I have all the calligra packages installed and you don't
[18:49] <Riddell> _Groo_: nope
[18:49] <_Groo_> Riddell: do you have a sample you could send me?
[18:50] <Riddell> _Groo_: here http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/FCC%20Agenda%2010%20November%202014.doc
[18:50] <_Groo_> forbidden
[18:51] <mparillo> soee	someone on konversation & vivid ? Were you looking for somebody to confirm a bug?
[18:51] <Riddell> _Groo_: try now
[18:52] <_Groo_> Riddell: does calligra support docx?
[18:53] <Riddell> _Groo_: in theory
[18:53] <Riddell> yep opens for me ok
[18:53] <Riddell> yep a .docx opens for me ok
[18:53] <_Groo_> it works here too, but i need to choose the tyep
[18:54] <_Groo_> just exported 1 rtf 1 doc and 1 docx from google drive
[18:54] <_Groo_> same behaviour
[18:54] <_Groo_> so something is fishy with the installation
[18:55] <_Groo_> Riddell: did you update your packages after the initial build? from the ppa?
[18:58] <soee> mparillo: yes, not sure why but i have konversation icon always visible in task manager even if it is minimized to systray
[18:58] <Riddell> _Groo_: no idea but I still have installed all of them so if something is missing from calligrawords it may be in another package by mistake
[19:00] <_Groo_> Riddell: words(6758)/koffice (filter manager) KoFilterManager::importDocument: Can't open  "application/wps-office.docx" , trying filter chooser
[19:01] <_Groo_> from the command line
[19:01] <_Groo_> so the mime type is indeed broken
[19:01] <_Groo_> words(6758)/koffice (lib kopageapp) KoOdfLoadingContext::KoOdfLoadingContext: defaultstyles.xml not found
[19:02] <_Groo_> it does open
[19:02] <_Groo_> but it always asks for the type, except for odf
[19:03] <VolUTFan> hey ya'll I am going to install 14.10 plasma5 into a vbox for testing.  How do I get the bugs back to you guys.  Do I need to install debugging
[19:03] <Riddell> VolUTFan: better to install vivid beta1
[19:03] <VolUTFan> I had problems with it on one of my main boxes and plasmashell would crash and never come back online
[19:03] <_Groo_> Riddell: it doesnt matter if i change the order in system settings > file associations, it still asks for the type
[19:03] <Riddell> report bugs in the software to bugs.kde.org and in the packaging to launchpad.net/bugs
[19:04] <VolUTFan> ok, I will go with vivid
[19:04] <VolUTFan> thanks guys
[19:04] <lordievader> VolUTFan: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com ;)
[19:04] <Riddell> _Groo_: do you have /usr/share/kde4/services/calligra/calligra_filter_odt2docx.desktop ?
[19:05] <VolUTFan> thanks lordie
[19:05] <_Groo_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1218 Fev 24 09:53 /usr/share/kde4/services/calligra/calligra_filter_odt2docx.desktop
[19:05] <_Groo_> its the same for doc or rtf mind you
[19:05] <_Groo_> only odf is working as advertised
[19:06] <Riddell> _Groo_: do you have all of calligra installed?
[19:06] <_Groo_> Riddell: yep
[19:06] <_Groo_> also, i have libreoffice 4.4 and in file associations, i have 2 mime entries
[19:08] <mparillo> soee: So, when I click minimze konversation goes down to the task manager panel  but when I click close or File Quit, I assume it wants to quit entirely. It warns me Are you sure you want to quit Konversation?
[19:08] <_Groo_> Riddell: see http://picpaste.com/snapshot4-lM3sz7Jw.png
[19:09] <_Groo_> Riddell: do you have libreoffice installed?
[19:09] <soee> mparillo: not quit, one moment
[19:12] <soee> mparillo: if you minimize it to systray the icon from task manager is gone right ?
[19:15] <mparillo> I did not Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> General -> Enable System Tray
[19:15] <mparillo> Shoul I?
[19:15] <mparillo> Should I
[19:16] <soee> mparillo: well i have it, i want konversation to run in systray all the time
[19:17] <mparillo> OK. so I enabled the system tray.and I see it under status and notifications
[19:18] <soee> mparillo: basically teh icon stays in task manager if konversation is moved to systray, clicking on that icon does nothing
[19:18] <soee> mparillo: look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1imNqWOtng
[19:21] <mparillo> When I click on Konversation in the system tray, it alternately closes konversation window and removes it from the panel, and then re-opens the window and re-shows itin the panel
[19:21] <alket> did anyone install kdevelop 4.7.1 ?
[19:26] <Riddell> _Groo_: yes I have libreoffice installed
[19:27] <Riddell> _Groo_: I need to leave now, I can test it a bit more tomorrow I hope
[19:27]  * Riddell out
[19:34] <alket> wx is very ugly and almost non-working
[19:47] <alket> dolphin is making me crazyyy
[19:49] <soee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwEDgSECGiU
[19:51] <alket> lol
[19:51] <alket> im using krusader now
[19:51] <soee> alket: on vivid ?
[19:53] <alket> yes
[19:54] <soee> alket: works perfect for me but im not using any fancy features of it to stress it much
[19:54] <alket> im using it in vanilla state
[20:20] <alket> well konqueror is better
[21:18] <BluesKaj> still no upgrade to the 3.19 kernel here, what gives ..It upgraded to 3.19 on the laptop... could it have something to do with nvidia kernel module not ready for testing yet?
[21:18] <soee> erghm, i doubt
[21:20] <BluesKaj> soee, I tried the main server in the sources.list, no new kernel available, but the laptop was still on the ca archive and it installed the kernel
[21:21] <soee> BluesKaj: and the desktop uses Vivid ?
[21:22] <BluesKaj> yes , both do
[21:26] <BluesKaj> the laptop uses an intel gpu, that's what makes me think they halted the servers from making the 3.19 available
[21:27] <BluesKaj> available to nvidia equipped pcs that is
[21:27] <BluesKaj> or is that just speculation on my part?
[21:28] <yofel> nvidia here and I got the update..
[21:28] <soee> ;)
[21:28] <yofel> BluesKaj: does 'apt-cache policy linux-image-generic' show 3.19 for you?
[21:29] <BluesKaj> yofel, uname -a shows 31,8
[21:29] <BluesKaj> er 3.18
[21:29] <yofel> that's what you're running, not what's available in apt..
[21:30] <yofel> FWIW, I'm running 3.18 too because I'm too lazy to reboot :P
[21:30] <BluesKaj> yes apt-cache shows 3.19 as installed, so why isn't it running ?
[21:31] <BluesKaj> already rebooted today
[21:31] <yofel> hm...
[21:31] <yofel> if you run 'sudo update-grub', what's at the top?
[21:33] <BluesKaj> ahh, I see what happened here..I installed grub frpm the other HDD which has 14.10 on it
[21:33] <yofel> ^^
[21:33] <soee> vv
[21:34] <BluesKaj> now it shows 3.19
[21:35] <BluesKaj> weird that uname -a shows 3.18 tho ...guess I''ll reboot and if the kernel module doesn't break the system
[21:35] <BluesKaj> see
[21:36] <ScottK> mitya57: Bad news on qtwayland.  Reject message on the way.
[21:54] <BluesKaj> ok, the 3.10 is in use now, but it's strange that i don't recall seeing it install
[21:54] <BluesKaj> 3.19
[21:57] <BluesKaj> anyway, all seems well ... laters
[22:14] <KDDA> can amarok cast music to Chromecast?


[00:00]  * clivejo fingers crossed
[00:01] <clivejo> unless I put something somewhere it didnt belong.  It wouldnt be the first time!
[00:03] <soee_> people who do not mistake simply do nothing :)
[00:04] <clivejo> soee_: do you know when the final version is due?
[00:04] <soee_> clivejo: amarok ? nope.
[00:05] <clivejo> soee_: know any other who can test it?
[00:05] <soee_> call testers :)
[00:05] <soee_> there is some command, but i do not remember it :(
[07:14] <ovidiu-florin> Apparently I'm having issues submitting translations on launchpad. Can someone please assist me?
[07:49] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:30] <Mamarok> probably not Wiley proper, so likely PPA, I don't think we can make it for Wiley final
[08:30] <Mamarok> do as Debian does: put the beta in Wiley and then get in the final when it's ready
[08:31] <Mamarok> because the beta is pretty stable, I use it since ages
[08:44] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: just to let you know Kdenlive 15.08.0 is completly broken and unusable
[09:17] <yossarianuk> hi - for the last 2 days i've not been able to install Kubuntu 15.10 via daily .iso
[09:17] <yossarianuk> ubiquity crashes on startup
[09:17] <yossarianuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1495194
[09:18] <yossarianuk> is there a workaround
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[18:42] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[18:58] <TJ-> Just had Konsole hang during a close, backtrace shows its trying to play a sound via gstreamer/pulseaudio, waiting at pa_threaded_mainloop_wait() ... research suggests this issue has/does affect other (Gnome) applications so probably isn't KDE specific. Has anyone else experienced similar?
[18:59] <Riddell> TJ-: nope, I would guess it's specific to your sound card and driver
[18:59] <TJ-> Interesting; first time I've ever seen it. From what I've read its a race condition in the gstreamer callbacks for PA
[19:16] <clivejo> I have a problem with Konsole everytime I close the last window
[19:19] <TJ-> I've hit theme issues I can't seem to solve. I switched to "Breeze Dark" under Desktop Theme and Application Colour Scheme. Most standard File-Open dialogs are unusable because they paint white-on-white
[19:20] <yofel> nothing bad happening here when I close a konsole window..
[19:21] <TJ-> I tested it with Amarok a few minutes ago; hit the issue. Quit the program, changed both themes to the standard Breeze, re-ran Amarok and the same thing happens.
[19:21] <clivejo> Im currently using Konsole so I cant close it
[19:21] <clivejo> but it always happens when I close the last one of the session
[19:22] <TJ-> yofel: re the PulseAudio hang; from what I read it is caused by a race condition, and isn't all triggered. It depends on timings of the shell 'bell' sound and the Quit action.
[19:22] <TJ-> s/all/always/
[19:22] <TJ-> clivejo: attach to the Konsole process with 'gdb' from another console (or ssh session) and get a backtrace
[19:23] <TJ-> I'm also seeing a lot of compositor corruption when the GPU is close to using 100% of its video RAM.
[19:26] <TJ-> Something else I was wondering re: themes: Why is it necessary to change both the Desktop Theme and the Application Colour Scheme to get all colours to change?
[19:31] <TJ-> Just did a re-log-in to check  resource exhaustion isn't causing the File Open Dialog issue. Not sure what package to report that against
[19:43] <soee_> clivejo: did you repacked yesterdayamarok maybe?
[19:43] <clivejo> soee_: sorry, dont understand the question
[19:44] <soee_> clivejo: sorry my keyboard doesn't folow me :) I saw some next amarok updates, and was wondering if you put some fresh version maybe in your ppa?
[19:44] <clivejo> oh that
[19:44] <clivejo> yes
[19:45] <clivejo> Riddell pointed out some files that shouldnt be in the package
[19:45] <soee_> ah so it is more cleanup update than any important ? :)
[19:45] <clivejo> yup
[19:45] <soee_> ok, cool, thanks for info :)
[19:46] <clivejo> need to find out if it will make it into wily or not
[19:47] <soee_> i think it depends if final verson will be released (2.9)
[19:47] <clivejo> yeah, do you know when its due?
[19:48] <soee_> nope, some dev should be asked
[19:49] <clivejo> was calligra packaged?
[19:51] <soee_> there were some upates today
[19:51] <soee_> 2.9.7 version i have
[19:51] <clivejo> Riddell must have done it
[19:51] <clivejo> I attempted it and run out of time
[19:53] <clivejo> yeah 2.9.7 was the one I tried to package
[19:54] <soee_> yup, so this one was released today
[19:56] <clivejo> yup Riddell did it last night
[19:57] <clivejo> then someone called Steve Langasek rebuild it this morning
[20:37] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I really need to know my password on the docsnew.kubuntu.co.uk server lol
[20:44] <valorie> if you got that in a PM, ahoneybun, search your irc logs
[20:45] <ahoneybun> mm?
[20:45] <ahoneybun> I did not at all
[20:49] <valorie> ok
[20:49] <valorie> maybe Riddell will check in irc before going to sleep
[20:51] <ahoneybun> yea its not a big thing
[20:51] <ahoneybun> just want to install sphinx on the server and edit things from there
[20:52] <valorie> cool
[20:53] <ahoneybun> rather then installing it everything I have to format this machine or my laptop....
[20:53] <ahoneybun> valorie: did you see the new domain?
[20:53] <ahoneybun> temp anyway
[20:53] <valorie> yes
[20:53] <ahoneybun> k
[21:12] <soee_> Wily will use Frameworks 5.14.0 ?
[21:14] <valorie> I assume so, since they have been released
[21:19] <ahoneybun> do we have a list of things to be packaged yet
[21:20] <ahoneybun> ?
[21:21] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ^
[21:25] <Riddell> ahoneybun: frameworks and applications both need updates
[21:25] <Riddell> feel free to add trello items for those
[21:26] <Riddell> clivejo: I did calligra, calligra-l10n still needs doing
[21:26] <clivejo> what updates are needed?
[21:26] <ahoneybun> mm I always have issues finding links
[21:26] <clivejo> using that script thing?
[21:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: password for sudo? I'll need to reset it
[21:27] <ahoneybun> I have no idea what it is
[21:27] <Riddell> clivejo: calligra-l10n needs the new version packaged
[21:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: what do you need it for today?
[21:27] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/5.14/?
[21:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yes that needs doing
[21:28] <soee_> oh Linux Kernel 4.3 RC1 is out  :)
[21:28] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I want to install sphinx on the server rather then my desktop so it is all synced no matter what device I'm on
[21:28] <ahoneybun> also this trello card: https://trello.com/c/rGFyOEFP/24-add-instructions-for-checking-the-iso-checksum-in-the-new-docs
[21:28] <ahoneybun> Riddell: do we have a notepad for it?
[21:29] <ahoneybun> KF 5.14
[21:29] <Riddell> nope, but the first step is probably to run the kubuntu-automation script staging-upload
[21:31] <ahoneybun> that's above me atm
[21:33] <clivejo> is the staging ppa ready for them?
[21:34] <Riddell> as ready as it ever is :)
[21:35] <clivejo> if I try it, wil you be about to clean up if the brown stuff hits the fan?
[21:35] <ahoneybun> XD
[21:40] <Riddell> clivejo: go ahead
[21:40] <clivejo> lp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation ?
[21:40] <Riddell> clivejo: yep
[21:40] <Riddell> clivejo: warning, the scripts are buggy and the README is incomplete and out of date, fixes welcome
[21:40] <clivejo> need to set this up locally
[21:41] <Riddell> clivejo: Mamarok is the person you need to ask about Amarok release
[21:41] <clivejo> Riddell: yup Ive a to-do setup to ask him/her tomorrow
[21:42] <Mamarok> I am here, clivejo :)
[21:42] <Riddell> you could ask her now
[21:42] <clivejo> Mamarok: hiding ?!? :P
[21:42] <Mamarok> not at all, I only just came home tonight
[21:42] <clivejo> Im joking with you :)
[21:43] <Mamarok> I know :)
[21:43] <clivejo> you wouldnt be the first to hide from me
[21:43] <clivejo> have you an ETA when the final release will be?
[21:43]  * Mamarok wonders if there is reason to hide...
[21:43] <clivejo> and if it will make it into wily or have to go into backports?
[21:44] <Mamarok> no, no ETA at the moment, so should go to the PPA I think
[21:44] <Mamarok> unless a miracle happens and somebody fixes those weird bugs
[21:44] <clivejo> its in my PPA
[21:45] <clivejo> soee_ has been testing and Ive been using it today
[21:45] <Mamarok> well, I use it since ages, but that endless loop with CDs is really annoying
[21:45] <clivejo> to be honest never really used it before, and I will be in future
[21:46] <Mamarok> mind you,one doesn't have to use CDs with Amarok, better rip those with k3b and add tracks to collection :)
[21:47] <Riddell> clivejo: copy it over to kubuntu-ppa/backports
[21:48] <clivejo> Riddell: I dunno how to copy :/
[21:48] <clivejo> I dont think I have permission to do that
[21:48] <Riddell> clivejo: go to your PPA, click the copy link, fill in form
[21:48] <Riddell> you should have permissions for it
[21:49]  * Riddell snoozes
[21:50] <clivejo> is it apps of frameworks?
[21:50] <clivejo> or
[21:51] <Mamarok> apps
[21:51] <Mamarok> certainly not frameworks
[21:52] <clivejo> oh I thought he said both needed doing
[21:52] <Mamarok> it can't be frameworks as it is still a KDE4 aspp
[21:52] <clivejo> Mamarok: sorry, crossed wires
[21:53] <clivejo> doing two things at the same time here
[21:53] <Mamarok> ok
[21:54] <clivejo> regarding copying do I rebuild or copy existing?
[21:55] <clivejo> pokes Riddell
[21:57] <clivejo> Ive selected rebuild
[22:16] <clivejo> ahoneybun: is there new frameworks and apps released?
[22:16] <ahoneybun> frameworks 5.14
[22:16] <ahoneybun> http://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/5.14/
[22:17] <ahoneybun> I'm guessing none have been done yet
[22:17] <clivejo> grrr
[22:18] <clivejo> Permission denied (publickey).
[22:19] <clivejo> something wrong with my ssh to depot.kde.org
[22:26] <clivejo> Im gonna have to wait until Riddell or yofel are around
[22:27] <clivejo> doing this locally is different to doing it on EC


[05:09] <GTRsdk> Hi. Could you unban *@*/unaffiliared/gtrsdk in -offtopic?
[08:56] <Mamarok> Lord_Havoc_is pasting links in random channels
[08:56] <bazhang> yes
[08:56] <bazhang> 4 so far
[08:56] <Mamarok> actually: [10:55] <Lord_Havoc_> Hey! Wanna learn how to hack from people who actually "know" how to manipulate computers/networks?! Well you can right now by just joining our chat and asking questions. We're all patient and help people who dont understand. Join chat.us.freenode.net (6665) chan #hl2 See ya online!
[08:57] <Myrtti> which so far? other than #ubuntu?
[08:57] <bazhang> yes, spamflood then quit
[08:57] <Mamarok> #kubuntu as well
[08:57] <Mamarok> hde did the same in #kde
[08:58] <Mamarok> (yes I know, outside of our scope)
[08:58] <bazhang> #k , ##linux, #u and that
[08:58] <Mamarok> looks like something for freenode ops to handle
[08:58] <bazhang> yank his cloak
[09:00] <Myrtti> already talked with him. if he continues, prod me
[09:00] <bazhang> ok
[09:00] <Mamarok> he just did in #kde-devel
[09:01] <mrmist> just as in, right now?
[09:01] <Mamarok> nvm, that was before, I didn't check the timestamp
[09:04] <bazhang> actionparsnip pretty much ignores all !ot calls
[09:18] <Mamarok> bazhang: what is new about that?
[10:00] <bazhang> Mamarok, true
[11:46] <oCean> I´m afk, but sx_usr_ in #u is full of nonsense, keep an eye on him...
[12:07] <oCean> smallfoot is in #u
[12:14] <Tm_T> uh
[12:14] <Tm_T> @btlogin
[13:02] <oCean><EMAIL_ADDRESS>lars his range
[13:02] <markulable> why do you ban me ocean
[13:03] <oCean> markulable: hi lars, we're not going through this again.
[13:03] <markulable> lars???????????????
[13:03] <markulable> who is lars?????????
[13:03] <oCean> right
[13:03] <oCean> nuff said
[13:03] <markulable> no.
[13:04] <markulable> But if you say that
[13:05] <markulable> you're sure right
[14:17] <Pricey> awesome
[14:19] <Pricey> AlanBell: Do you set bans including idents by default?
[14:19] <AlanBell> yeah, that was just my /kickban command
[14:20] <Pricey> I hope you know how easily they are to change? :p
[14:21] <AlanBell> sure
[14:21] <Pricey> Just checking :)
[14:21] <IdleOne> Pricey: join #ubuntu-irc so you can get the highlights
[14:22] <Pricey> bah, didn't realise i'd dropped, apologies
[14:24] <Tm_T> just mute him
[14:24] <Tm_T> no reward in ban form, but don't pollute channel either
[15:48] <Tm_T> how precise this one is?
[15:50] <IdleOne> about as precise as he can be
[16:34] <DJones> I only removed that one, if anybody wants to set a ban, feel free
[16:34] <Tm_T> DJones: floodbot did ban alreadu
[16:34] <Tm_T> y
[16:35] <DJones> I didn't see that, happened after the remove
[16:37] <Tm_T> yup
[18:22] <topyli> pm'd TheOtherGuy, awaiting response
[18:24] <bazhang> sheesh
[18:34] <bazhang> brandon just cannot listen
[18:37] <ikonia> what's going on in -ot ?
[18:39] <topyli> theoghterguy was quieted, then left. then returned under another name. refuses to respond to pm
[18:40] <GobShite> ?
[18:40] <ikonia> hello GobShite
[18:40] <bazhang> there was never any such statement
[18:40] <GobShite> was doing me best
[18:40] <ikonia> GobShite: if you could check your private message window please
[18:40] <ikonia> you'll find I asked you to change your nickname as "gob shite" isn't really appropriate nickname to use in the ubuntu channel
[18:40] <bazhang> suggesting non-existent packages should not be done. others will correct you if you do it
[18:41] <GobShite> well it registered with nickserv ok, and i been using it for 3 years on freenode, and i spend a LOT of time in ubuntu. and many other channels, so why now ? you having a bad day ?
[18:42] <ikonia> GobShite: nothing to do with having a bad day or anything like that
[18:42] <ikonia> GobShite: it's simpley a bit of a rude name
[18:43] <ikonia> if I was to call someone a "gob shite" it would be pretty rude, so addressing someone as "gobshite" isn't really something we want to do in #ubuntu
[18:43] <GobShite> topic dosnt mention anything about moinkiers , and i cant seem to se anything in the freenode tos ? you making the rules up as you go then ?
[18:43] <ikonia> GobShite: not at all, the channel has a family friendly language policy and calling someone "gobshite" isn't really appopriate for that
[18:44] <bazhang> ikonia, his response of being corrected on packages etc, warranted it enough
[18:44] <bazhang> nothing nick related there at all
[18:44] <ikonia> bazhang: two seperate issues
[18:45] <bazhang> true
[18:45] <GobShite> well in the uk its it just means "not holding back in self expression, nothingto do with shit,,, gobshite is a slang term for not worrying about what is sad
[18:45] <GobShite> said
[18:45] <ikonia> GobShite: no it doesn't mean that
[18:45] <ikonia> GobShite: it means someone is someone who talks "shit"
[18:45] <GobShite> yer it does its a coloqualisiam
[18:45] <ikonia> I know, hence why I'm asking you to change it "please"
[18:45] <GobShite> nah it dosnt
[18:45] <ikonia> it's not an old nickname for you
[18:45] <GobShite> ask any irishman
[18:46] <ikonia> ok, I'll change my approach then
[18:46] <ikonia> "you will not be allowed in #ubuntu using the nickname gobshite"
[18:46] <ikonia> that should put an end to the argument
[18:46] <GobShite> srr, i will rether leave the room ubuntu, and not offer any more help , if thats how it has to be.
[18:46] <ikonia> no problem
[18:46] <ikonia> take care and you're welcome to /part now
[18:47] <GobShite> ok thanks
[18:59] <bazhang> hfsplus again
[18:59] <bazhang> staff ^
 i demand you ban me   via PM
 ban me in ubuntu-kernel then i will quit irc
[19:02] <bazhang> early warning system
[19:02] <Pricey> can people still place ignore masks on thr bots?
[19:03] <bazhang> on ubuttu, think so
[19:03] <bazhang> whoops ubottu
[19:04] <bazhang> I asked him to quit and go for a bike ride. he said ok
[19:10] <DJones> Yankees52 was in #u this morning, didn't speak, only noticed when they quit the channel
[19:11] <Myrtti> that's probably because afaik he's muted
[19:11] <bazhang> he has to be one of the champion bandodgers in freenode
[19:11] <bazhang> HFSPLUS iirc
[19:11] <Myrtti> you can refer to him as HFSPlus, as that's how he's known.
[19:24] <bazhang> so much for quitting
[19:25] <ikonia> was there a netsplit while I was away ?
[19:26] <bazhang> just a vpn or the like going down
[19:26] <ikonia> my link ?
[19:26] <bazhang> * ikonia has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[19:26] <ikonia> how odd
[19:26] <ikonia> thank you
[19:27] <bazhang> * Tsunamifox has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[19:27] <bazhang> most were that ^
[19:32] <AlanBell> pure attention seeking
[19:53] <bazhang> resno's system is beyond repair imo
[21:45] <Pricey> bazhang: I take it that means it isn't used though.
[22:38] <Endafy> trying to find files on the Internet is getting more and more impossible
[22:38] <Endafy> what is with these rar files with another rar file thats password protected
[22:38] <Endafy> it asks me to go to some BS site and NEVER gives me the password
[22:39] <Endafy> im looking for a plugin for no$gba and I cant find it
[22:39] <Fuchs> Endafy: sure you ended up in the right channel?
[22:40] <Endafy> oh no
[22:40] <Endafy> why am I in ops
[22:40] <Endafy> thats odd
[22:40] <Endafy> I assumed I was in offtopic
[22:40] <Fuchs> and then unfortunately pirating games, including roms for emulators, are unfortuantely not really on-topic on the whole freenode network :)
[22:41] <Endafy> im not trying to pirate anything I am looking for a graphics plugin I own the game I want to play on my pc
[22:41] <Endafy> 1992 backup laws state that I can
[22:42] <Fuchs> anyway, this channel here is definitely the wrong one :)
[22:42] <Endafy> yeah whats up with me being in ops
[22:42] <Fuchs> well, that I don't know, maybe the ops can answer that
[22:42] <Endafy>  Endafy sets mode +i Endafy
[22:42] <Endafy> * #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-ops :Forwarding to another channel
[22:43] <Endafy> so logging in doesnt even fix it
[22:43] <Endafy> maybe the room is full ttfn then
[23:12] <Shano56> hi am i still banned on #ubuntu
[23:12] <Shano56> I connected this morning with the rest of my favorites on freenode, didn't even realize i connected
[23:12] <bazhang> you changed IP to get back in
[23:13] <Shano56> no?
[23:13] <Shano56> oh
[23:13] <Shano56> i bypassed my router today cuz it was having issues
[23:13] <Shano56> thats probably why :p
[23:13] <bazhang> yep
[23:13] <Shano56> I didn't even think about it
[23:13] <bazhang> thats called ban evading
[23:13] <Shano56> well it wasnt intentional -_-
[23:13] <bazhang> and I asked you to come *here*
[23:14] <Shano56> I was supposed to come here today and discuss my ban
[23:14] <bazhang> yet you did not. you just went back into #ubuntu
[23:14] <Shano56> can i show you something?
[23:14] <Shano56> give me one second
[23:15] <bazhang> no need
[23:15] <bazhang> I spotted what you had done, then PMed you to exit the channel
[23:15] <Shano56> You think i did it on purpose
[23:15] <Shano56> ?
[23:16] <bazhang> your router was just suddenly having issues
[23:16] <Shano56> look at this > http://i.imgur.com/gTjjB.png
[23:16] <Shano56> I have mirc connect to all my favorites on startup
[23:16] <Shano56> I didn't even realize i connected to #ubuntu
[23:17] <Shano56> You pointed that out, I left
[23:17] <Shano56> Notice I said nothing all day on #ubuntu
[23:18] <bazhang> we cannot watch it every second. we have to assume good faith and hope people come here to resolve their bans
[23:19] <Shano56> here is a screenshot of the call logs to my ISP i have been on the phone with all day
[23:20] <Shano56> trying to figure out why my internet has been having issues > http://i.imgur.com/F6fvt.png
[23:20] <genii-around> This is not a support channel.
[23:20] <Shano56> I am not asking for support
[23:20] <bazhang> thats not connected to ban evading. you were asked to come here to resolve the ban
[23:20] <Shano56> you think I bypassed my router to evade a ban
[23:20] <Shano56> Yes I am coming here to discuss my ban
[23:20] <bazhang> that is what happened.
[23:21] <Shano56> It may have happened, but it was an accident
[23:21] <bazhang> getting a ban lifted after just ban evading does not inspire much confidence that you will actually follow the channel guidelines
[23:22] <Shano56> Did you look at what I showed you?
[23:22] <Shano56> the two screenshots?
[23:22] <bazhang> which is why you were banned in the first place
[23:22] <bazhang> no
[23:22] <Shano56> Now take some reason, like a human, and think about what i showed you
[23:22] <Shano56> the first is a screenshot showing how many channels I am connected to
[23:22] <bazhang> lets try this again.
[23:22] <Shano56> Now with some basic reasoning, one might understand how i didnt realize i was connected to #ubuntu
[23:23] <bazhang> thats odd. I always know the channels I am connected to
[23:23] <bazhang> better to take #ubuntu off the auto join list until this is resolved
[23:23] <Shano56> Second, is a screenshot of the call log, showing that I have been on the phone with my ISP, showing a little more evidance that I ahve been having problems with my internet, which may explain why i had to bypass my router
[23:24] <bazhang> Shano56, come back in 48 hours and we can discuss.  as in come to #ubuntu-ops (not #ubuntu )
[23:25] <bazhang> in the meantime, better take #ubuntu off the auto-join list as you cannot seem to know which channels you are in
[23:25] <Shano56> No, you're a joke. You do not have the reasoning of a normal human. I will avoid #ubuntu and #ubunto-ops as they do not have the reasoning power of normal human beings. I will switch to a different OS that may have better IRC support. bye.
[23:26] <bazhang> ok
[23:26] <bazhang> * impiratCOM<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[23:27] <genii-around> Again?
[23:27] <bazhang> how the heck did he just rejoin
[23:27] <bazhang>  impiratCOM has quit (Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
[23:35] <genii-around> Stupid bots just keep coming today
[23:36] <bazhang> should we +r ?
[23:37] <genii-around> I don't feel good unilaterally deciding that
[23:38] <genii-around> If there was a sudden flood of them, maybe. Right now just trickling in, trickling in, etc
[23:39] <bazhang> pretty sure thats a person (the impirat one)
[23:42] <genii-around> The typo stuff like  !!!1 indicates possibly. Also the lag times between kicks and rejoins are fairly human
[23:43] <bazhang> most bots dont do :D
[23:48] <bazhang> genii-around, thought that was banworthy. I have him in PM now.
[23:49] <genii-around> k
 now my personal opinion is a large portion of the userbase is noobs, but what is wrong with that?
[23:50] <bazhang> the name calling/abuse was enough right away
[23:53] <cerjam-g71> howdy.
[23:53] <cerjam-g71> i have grievences with bazhang and genii-around.
[23:54] <bazhang> cerjam-g71, you came into the channel completely offtopic, calling names
[23:54] <cerjam-g71> i called no one any name.
[23:54] <bazhang> cerjam-g71, thats against the channel guidelines
[23:54] <bazhang> noobs
[23:55] <bazhang> dunce
[23:55] <cerjam-g71> i said the OS was.
[23:55] <cerjam-g71> not the users.
[23:55] <bazhang> the channel is logged. it's not up for debate
[23:56] <bazhang> cerjam-g71, so if there is nothing further, please exit the channel
[23:58] <cerjam-g71> ..
[23:58] <cerjam-g71> it is up for debate
[23:58] <cerjam-g71> you're lying.
[23:58] <cerjam-g71> i said ubuntu was noob, not the people who use it.
[23:58] <cerjam-g71> unless you can prove otherwise
[23:58] <cerjam-g71> which you seem to refuse to do.
[23:58] <bazhang> cerjam-g71, this channel is for ban resolution
[23:58] <cerjam-g71> and?
[23:58] <cerjam-g71> i feel i have a legit concern.
[23:58] <IdleOne> !logs
[23:58] <cerjam-g71> you're lying to me.
[23:58] <bazhang> cerjam-g71, its not the debate channel
[23:59] <IdleOne> cerjam-g71: the logs for the channel are posted to that link hourly
 check the other channel dexter, youll understand
[23:59] <bazhang> pretty clear what that's about


[00:02] <darkxst> jbicha, are we going to be able to include 3.6.1 gdm? or is it too late (~oct 16th)
[00:15] <jbicha> darkxst: it likely will need to be an SRU
[00:16] <jbicha> Ubuntu's October release cycle is horrible for just that reason, we really really should have .1 in Ubuntu
[00:31] <darkxst> yeh, its a little to close the gnome cycle
[01:12] <darkxst> jbicha, do you know where the current accountsservice branch is? lp:ubuntu/accountsservice is outdated
[01:12] <jbicha> darkxst: you can do apt-get source accountsservice then
[01:13] <darkxst> yeh, I did that, was going to make merge request, but will just make debdiff?
[01:13] <jbicha> branch imports get broken sometimes
[08:57] <darkxst> jbicha, autologin should be all fixed with these 2 patches https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061993 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059090
[10:01] <everaldo> how I can call the default gnome's language selector?
[18:23] <greg-g> hey all, is it just me or can I not set up U1 on UbuntuGNOME? I have ubuntuone-client-gnome installed, but I can't see where I can give it my credentials (even tried u1sdtool --connect to no avail)
[18:24] <greg-g> the Ubuntu One folder is there, just not connected to my account
[19:15] <darkxst> greg-g, it should come up with a setup wizard on the first run
[19:38] <greg-g> darkxst: should invoke the default browser, right? I see nothing (no output on the cli nor a new browser tab)
[19:56] <erictr1ck> so i installed gnome by clicking on the "is just a click away" link on the gnome.org website... unsure what to do now :/
[20:02] <darkxst> greg-g, on a fresh install, click the ubuntu one client, brings up a setup wizard, asking for credentials etc
[20:03] <darkxst> if you just get the normal ubuntu one window, you can try remove your computer (if its listed?)
[20:04] <darkxst> atleast here, that takes me back to the setup wizard
[20:08] <darkxst> jbicha, do we want to include this patch? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685115, its awaiting design approval upstream which I doubt would happen before freeze
[20:10] <darkxst> erictr1ck, just logout and select GNOME from the session list
[20:13] <greg-g> darkxst: where does the ubuntone client live? I have it installed (according to apt) but I see no gui client. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262639/
[20:15] <greg-g> by, where does it live, I mean, shouldn't there be an entry for it in the system settings tool or show up when I use the Applications view
[20:18] <darkxst> yes client should show up in applications view
[20:18] <darkxst> as "ubuntu one"
[20:22] <greg-g> darkxst: no results :/
[20:22] <greg-g> darkxst: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy ubuntuone*" please?
[20:25] <darkxst> greg-g, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262659/
[20:27] <greg-g> darkxst: thanks
[20:29] <greg-g> trying ubuntuone-control-panel-qt (wasn't on mine, was on yours)
[20:31] <greg-g> that was it
[20:32] <greg-g> thanks much, darkxst
[20:35] <darkxst> greg-g, np
[20:40] <darkxst> greg-g, perhaps you can file a bug for that, we will need to update deps to ensure that can't happen
[20:48] <greg-g> sure
[20:49] <greg-g> just so it is here (I am inthe middle of something else right now): I installed ubuntuone-client-gnome thinking that'd take care of it
[20:49] <greg-g> (it missed -control-panel-qt)
[22:47] <jbicha> darkxst: even if design takes it, it may be 3.8 only, so let's not
[22:48] <jbicha> darkxst: is the accountsservice patch enough to get autologin working? it seems to work here but I've not tested very extensively
[22:48] <jbicha> oh never mind, that only worked the first time...
[22:57] <jbicha> darkxst: ok, I'm taking your accountsservice patch and doing it a bit different, I'm going to keep the ubuntu patch but change it so that it reverts the debian patch
[22:59] <jbicha> there's a couple different ways of doing this, and I think this is slightly closer to how the Debian maintainer is thinking
[23:20] <darkxst> jbicha, accounts service patch just fixes the autologin toggle in user account panel
[23:21] <darkxst> the other (gdm) patch, fixes logout not working, when autologin is enabled


[15:40] <bdmurray> xnox: bug 1262528 has a patch
[15:40] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1262528 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crash when hostname is too long" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1262528
[15:41] <xnox> bdmurray: saw that. but it feel wrong, by default we try multiple prefixes, if none are specified. and "ubiquity/text" is one of the first ones we do.
[15:43] <xnox> bdmurray: so i'm not sure what's wrong, but it's probably somewhere else in the stack of processing errors.
[15:44] <xnox> bdmurray: it should work without prefix, because other code else where may also be appending things without fully qualified translation string prefix.


[15:32] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Have you tried the new plymouth theme yet?
[15:33] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I haven't rebooted in... " 07:33:21 up 21 days, 10:52,"
[15:37] <Eickmeyer> Install plymouth-x11," sudo -i", "plymouthd", "plymouth --show-splash; xkill" click when done.
[15:38] <Eickmeyer> Then, probably a good idea to "killall plymouthd" after that.
[15:56]  * Eickmeyer goes to unbury his truck from the snow