[12:01] <erUSUL> !synaptic > Sourcemage
[12:01] <Sourcemage> synaptic didn't know show any SDL packages when i searched = /
[12:01] <kitche> Sourcemage: anyways you have to know what your really looking for since SDL is split up in bunch of devel packages
[12:01] <ladydoor> Sourcemage: or you can do sudo aptitude and press / to search and n to search againf for the same thing
[12:02] <ladydoor> marshall: seriously, though...if you divert ubuntu's version instead of uninstalling it, you can install from source. and that has the benefit of being able to install *any* of the gaim plugins you want...
[12:02] <erUSUL> !repos > Sourcemage
[12:02] <marshall> ladydoor: ive had all kinds of trouble installing things from source before though
[12:03] <marshall> kopete 0.12 beta 3 took like 4 hours to make
[12:03] <ladydoor> marshall: well...that's just stupid. gaim takes a while to compile (which rhymes), but it doesn't take 4 hours
[12:03] <pqs> :help
[12:03] <mc44> Seveas, without DRI Xv wont work, and the 'ati' driver doesnt work. Gah!
[12:03] <ladydoor> marshall: *meaning kopete's stupid, not you
[12:04] <marshall> ladydoor:  lol ok
[12:04] <el_taco> how do I refresh my dhcp?
[12:04] <pqs> (sorry I made a mistake, usin irssi for the first time)
[12:04] <ladydoor> marshall: because i'm *really* not sure what to do about all those dependencies that don't want to co-operate
[12:04] <el_taco> i've trid using ifconfig and bring down the device and then bring it back up again
[12:05] <marshall> ladydoor:  lol its ok i know
[12:05] <ladydoor> pqs: if you do /set, it should spit out a list of things you can set. i think there's an option to change it to a colon...
[12:05] <pqs> thanks ladydoor
[12:05] <ladydoor> pqs: np.
[12:06] <pqs> it's a long time I don't IRC ;)
[12:06] <el_taco> nevermind figured
[12:06] <el_taco> it out
[12:06] <Samuli^> rr.
[12:07] <wetduck_> !Typo
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Typo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <wetduck_> !Font
[12:07] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[12:07] <rico> !ndiswrapper
[12:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:08] <TLE> He everybody.I was wondering, in Breezy you could choose a list of screensaver which it should randomly choose from. Now the only option I have is one.. of randomly from all of them. Where did taht feature go, and can I get it back by installing some package ?
[12:08] <rico> is it true that with kernel 2.6.17 it will be possible to use broadcom wifi using bcm43xx?
[12:09] <ago> hi
[12:09] <lws> are the madwifi drivers in dapper linux-restricted-modules package, are those madwifi-ng or madwifi-old?
[12:09] <ladydoor> rico: 'tis.
[12:09] <orbish> can anyone help me get compiz up and running?
[12:09] <rico> 'tis? (sorry eng is not my first language)
[12:10] <ladydoor> rico: it's an archaic contraction of "it is"
[12:10] <ladydoor> rico: archaic=not used anymore (for a long time)
[12:10] <rico> ok, thanks :-)
[12:10] <ago> does anybody know how to resize a window using pyxfce? Doesn't look like NetkWindow has any viable method.
[12:10] <TLE> ladydoor: on dansish it means pee LOL
[12:10] <ladydoor> TLE: not with an apostrophe i bet
[12:11] <TLE> ladydoor: nope
[12:11] <rico> i was wondering if it is _more_ stupid to try compile the new kernel (i have never done that before) or try to understand why everytime i get to configure my wifi using ndiswrapper i cannot connect after reboot... any suggestion? :-)
[12:12] <rico> i have been browsing tutorials and howto for days and days
[12:12] <chealer> hi. is there an Ubuntu basic logo (no text) available from an official source in PNG format?
[12:12] <rico> eventually my wifi works...but when i reboot it doesn't work anymore
[12:12] <rico> and i cannot figure out what i am missing
[12:12] <erUSUL> chealer: /usr/share/example-content/
[12:12] <rico> (i actually fear it is network manager)
[12:13] <chealer> erUSUL: hum, thank you. but I forgot to mention I'm looking for something available online.
[12:15] <aaztechcln> rico: you probally just need to setup your /etc/network/interfaces file
[12:16] <rico> aaztech: well... to use network manager you need to comment out all the lines but "lo"
[12:16] <el_taco> is build-essentials all I need to start compiling stuff?
[12:16] <ucordes> heyz. how can i set my power state?
[12:16] <rico> but that doesn't depend on ndiswrapper or bcm43xx
[12:17] <Xenguy> el_taco: yep
[12:17] <ucordes> like in windows portable and desktop profiles set the cpu core
[12:17] <Xenguy> el_taco: build-essential IIRC
[12:17] <chealer> el_taco: it's more like what's essential to start compiling stuff
[12:17] <el_taco> Xenguy, that's what I meant.
[12:17] <chealer> so,  is there an Ubuntu basic logo (no text) available from an online official source in PNG format?
[12:18] <Xenguy> el_taco: yes, but it's not what you typed -- yer welcome ;-)
[12:18] <ucordes> !acpi
[12:18] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[12:18] <ucordes> !powerstate
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powerstate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <ucordes> !cpucore
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpucore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <aaztechcln> rico: when you reboot, does iwconfig show your interface?
[12:18] <ucordes> argh
[12:18] <chealer> ucordes: please /msg the bot
[12:18] <rico> yup
[12:19] <rico> aaz: yes
[12:19] <aaztechcln> rico: should show up was wlan0 if you're using ndiswrapper
[12:19] <ucordes> rico: what's your problem
[12:19] <rico> eth1
[12:19] <rico> iwconfig works
[12:19] <aaztechcln> rico: so, try this after you reboot, just do a 'sudo dhclient eth1'
[12:19] <rico> iwlist works
[12:19] <ucordes> what does not work?
[12:19] <Mike_kayaker> huh the latest release NOT free??????????????????(*_*)
[12:19] <Xenguy> ucordes: there is no problem - it's the channel rules, it's polite, and it's ettiquette
[12:19] <rico> ifup eth1 doesn't work, because there is not eth1 defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:20] <rico> because i need to comment that in order to user NetworkManager
[12:20] <ucordes> xenguy! im not talking to you
[12:20] <Powerbook`> does anyone know how to get airport extreme wireless to work with ubuntu
[12:20] <ucordes> !
[12:20] <Xenguy> ucordes: yes you are :p
[12:20] <Mike_kayaker> Ubuntu CDs, may order them at a cost of 1.50 per CD
[12:20] <ucordes> don't provoke people if you don't want channel rules to be broken eh?
[12:20] <nanno> has anyone tried openwengo nightly builds? which ones are NOT corrupt?
[12:20] <Zolace> Question: How can i play WMA files on ubuntu?
[12:20] <aaztechcln> rico: I don't know if commenting out is the right thing to do
[12:21] <Xenguy> ucordes: it's best not to take anything too personally (it's probably not meant that way in the first place)
[12:21] <rico> if i do dhclient it tries, but it doesn't find anything
[12:21] <Zolace> How can i play WMA files on ubuntu?
[12:21] <aaztechcln> rico: what type of AP are you connecting to, does it use WAP or WPA?  or is it an open access point?
[12:22] <kitche> !w32codecs > Zolace
[12:22] <ircleuser> Hello - My ubuntu installation just died - I get the message - "can't access tty: job control turned off"
[12:22] <rico> aaz: some howto say it's the best way to use NetworkManager... i have no encryption
[12:22] <ircleuser> Can anyone please help
[12:22] <saiko> sorry, i just downloaded the latest kernel from kernel.org, extracted it (one file) in /usr/src/ and don't know what to do next .. manual say to cd to linux dir, where is that in the first place ? also, make / make config isn't recognised as bash commands, what am i doing wrong ?
[12:22] <rico> maybe i should try removing networkmanager to find out if that is the real problem
[12:22] <aaztechcln> rico: ok, then find out your SSID, and type 'iwconfig eth1 essid YOURSSID'
[12:22] <rico> done...
[12:22] <chealer> Zolace: open them with a media player, like Amarok
[12:22] <aaztechcln> rico: then do the dhclient thing
[12:23] <rico> it sees it, but i cannot use it
[12:23] <Mike_kayaker> ircleuser: Install debian 4.0
[12:23] <aaztechcln> rico: do an 'lsmod |grep bcm'
[12:23] <Xenguy> ircleuser: never heard of such an error condition; if it were me, I might repeat the install (?)
[12:23] <aaztechcln> rico: if your system is trying to use the broadcom driver, it might conflict with ndiswrapper
[12:24] <rico> no, i blacklisted it!
[12:24] <Zolace> chealer, i dont have that i dont think
[12:24] <ircleuser> Hi - Ubuntu was working fine, and then I shut it down and it wont completely shut down. following that, I pulled the plug and restarted - and now the the system doesnt go to login mode. Instead after 'checking filesystem', I get - can't access tty: job control turned off and it loads ash/busybox
[12:25] <ircleuser> Will installing debian 4 retain my old ubuntu settings ?
[12:25] <Xenguy> ircleuser: I think Mike_kayaker was either joking, or suggesting a completely separate install
[12:25] <chealer> Zolace: use another media player like vlc then, or get one
[12:25] <Mike_kayaker> ircleuser: the latter
[12:26] <aaztechcln> rico: what does dhclient say?
[12:26] <kitche> ircleuser: you should never pull a plug on a powered up machine, you should press the power button instead since you might have burned out something in the computer just so you know :)
[12:26] <ircleuser> I dont even have debian cds
[12:26] <Mike_kayaker> ircleuser: net install
[12:26] <chealer> ircleuser: FWIW, Debian 4 is not yet released
[12:26] <Mike_kayaker> etch is frozen
[12:26] <ircleuser> oh well...should I reintall ubuntu ?
[12:26] <Mike_kayaker> release Dec
[12:27] <Xenguy> ircleuser: I'd try a repeat/re-install first
[12:27] <rico> DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 12
[12:27] <rico> over and over
[12:27] <rico> with different interval values
[12:27] <ircleuser> There is not 'fix' mode in Ubuntu
[12:28] <ircleuser> ?
[12:28] <Sourcemage> is it possible to just install every single SDL package?
[12:28] <Xenguy> ircleuser: It's been awhile; 'rescue' might be worth a keyword try
[12:28] <Ash-Fox> Sourcemage, it is possible.
[12:29] <ircleuser> busy box does not have rescue
[12:29] <aaztechcln> rico: you're sure you're not using the BCM drivers?
[12:29] <Sourcemage> ash-fox: In order to play this game I need a bunch of sdl packages but i can't figure out which ones i don't have
[12:29] <Sourcemage> it's a small list and i've gone through each and gotten everything
[12:30] <ircleuser> Sourcemage - Any other possible suggestions other than rescue
[12:30] <kitche> Sourcemage: if the checkbox next to them is green it means that they are installed
[12:30] <Ash-Fox> Sourcemage, there are far more you can get off SDL's homepage that you can compile etc. although I'd reccommend you lookup the game on google instead.
[12:30] <ircleuser> or perhaps running rescue off the liveCD
[12:30] <bobobogu> anyone have any info on the oringal muvo mp3 players?
[12:30] <rico> aaz: pretty sure... lsmod | grep bcm is empty
[12:30] <ircleuser> Does anyone have some other idea ?
[12:31] <mumbles> argh
[12:31] <mumbles> damm randem mumbles ....
[12:31] <bobobogu> i want to pllug it in to my pc without mounting its flash drive and still using it to play stuff
[12:31] <anonymouse> quick question: Is it possible (and reasonable) to run apache temporarily from a live-cd boot up of ubuntu?  Or am I really asking for trouble?
[12:31] <Sourcemage> ash-fox i've only had Ubuntu f or a day, it's my first LInux distribution so ... i'm a little overwhelmed :(
[12:32] <Sourcemage> i downloaded the game client directly from the developers website and have been trying to follow the installation guide
[12:32] <bobobogu> like if i plug it in to the pc it only wants to be a flash drive i can't press its play button etc
[12:32] <Flannel> Sourcemage: what do you need the sdl packages for?
[12:32] <Sourcemage> For a game called Daimonin, http://www.daimonin.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagename=Source%20Client%20Install
[12:33] <el_taco> what's the parameter for carctl to list devices present?
[12:33] <ircleuser> can't access tty: job control turned off
[12:33] <ircleuser> anyone has some other ideas to fix - can't access tty: job control turned off
[12:33] <el_taco> nevermind. figured it out :)
[12:33] <kitche> ircleuser: did you do a reinstall?
[12:33] <ubuntu> Help! I had ubuntu installed on my computer, and then I ran gparted, and installed xp on my disk (not the first partition, but that didn't seem to be a problem in the windows xp installer) when I went to reboot to do the second phase of the xp install, it failed. Any ideas?
[12:34] <ircleuser> will I lose old configuration data and other programs when I reinstall ?
[12:34] <rico> aaztechcln, thanks for your help and suggestions...
[12:34] <Flannel> ubuntu: XP install failed?  you'll have to ask XP/MS/whatever support people about that.
[12:34] <Zolace> thanks kitche
[12:34] <el_taco> Ubugtu, iirc windows writes over the mbr
[12:34] <rico> aaztechcln, i think i will try to disable the network manager and see if that is the problem
[12:34] <Flannel> Sourcemage: unfortunately, yeah, you need to figure out your dependencies by hand.
[12:34] <ircleuser> Kitche - do you think I'll lose the configuration data if I reinstall ?
[12:34] <DigitalNinja> Is there an easy way to lock down a gnome desktop
[12:35] <kitche> ircleuser: well if you reformat you will
[12:36] <ircleuser> kitche : I dont intend to reformat. I should be still be able to reinstall - right ?
[12:36] <kitche> ircleuser: yes at least you should be able to not sure if it will cause breakages but it shouldn't
[12:37] <mabus> Help! I tried to install xp after I had successfully installed ubuntu, and then ran gparted to make my partitons afterwards. XP is not installed on the first partition. Any ideas? It gave a disk error after rebooting into the second phase of xp installation.
[12:38] <kitche> mabus: well the disk error would really help but anyways you would have lost linux since windows whipes out a MBR
[12:38] <Sourcemage> Flannel: I reran sh ./configure   after I installed a few of those packages and i think 'make' worked this time but i'm not sure
[12:38] <jeeves_Moss> all:  does any one know the command to purge a bad install of apache?  I've tried everything I can think of to get it to work, and it's annoying me.
[12:38] <kitche> mabus: anyways that's mroe fo a ##windows question
[12:39] <aaztechcln> Rico-: no problem, once you get it working via command prompt, you'll be good 2 go
[12:39] <Plouj> hi
[12:39] <canepazzo> Where may I take the sources of 2.6.15-27 belonging to ubuntu?
[12:39] <Powerbook`> how would I update the kernal from 2.6.15-23-powerpc to the newest?
[12:39] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  you still in here?
[12:40] <Powerbook`> note: I cannot download from that computer, but I can download on a different computer and put it on there, so no like apt-get :p
[12:40] <mabus> kitche: MBR can be overwritten again, though? And the disk error was simply "disk error"
[12:40] <canepazzo> Do I need to download the kernel from kernel.org for grabbing the sources?
[12:40] <Plouj> what username/password should I enter after I click "start printer" in the cups web interface at locahost:631/printers/printer-name ?
[12:41] <gekko`> is this a bug http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24816 ? i'm getting it when i'm updating a package
[12:41] <chealer> canepazzo: no
[12:41] <canepazzo> chealer, what should I do?
[12:42] <canepazzo> I have the image, the restricted modules
[12:42] <canepazzo> what else do I need to build other modules inside the kernel?
[12:42] <chealer> canepazzo: there should be an Ubuntu binary package containing the Linux source
[12:42] <Flannel> jeeves_Moss: what's up?
[12:42] <chealer> canepazzo: "build modules inside the kernel"?
[12:42] <Powerbook`> how do i update the kernel?
[12:43] <chanwoma1> trying to install vmware tools, got error message 'couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r', help!!
[12:43] <chealer> canepazzo: if you just mean building LKMs, you should only need Linux headers
[12:43] <Flannel> chanwoma1: sounds like something wasn't quoted correctly in a script
[12:43] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  dumbest questoin I've asked so far tonight.  Is the command to purge a bad install apt-get --purge apache2?
[12:43] <mabus> Help! I tried to install xp after I had successfully installed ubuntu, and then ran gparted to make my partitons afterwards. XP is not installed on the first partition. Any ideas? It gave a disk error after rebooting into the second phase of xp installation. So my idea is, that I need to overwrite whatever windows put on the MBR, and put a grub on that will correctly boot xp/ubuntu... can somebody point me to a howto
[12:43] <mabus> !grub
[12:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:44] <canepazzo> chealer, I need to compile the svn version of madwifi
[12:44] <canepazzo> chealer, but it gives me error on compile
[12:44] <lws> is edgy reasonably good to use as is?
[12:44] <lws> if I do a distupgrade?
[12:44] <Powerbook`> !kernel
[12:44] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:44] <Powerbook`> how do i update kernel...
[12:44] <canepazzo> /usr/src/madwifi-0.9.2/ath/uudecode.c:26:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[12:44] <canepazzo> /usr/src/madwifi-0.9.2/ath/uudecode.c:27:19: error: errno.h: No such file or directory
[12:45] <canepazzo> this for example
[12:45] <canepazzo> I have the same with the svn
[12:45] <canepazzo> :|
[12:45] <Flannel> jeeves_Moss: apt-get --purge remove apache2
[12:45] <Flannel> lws: #ubuntu+1 can give you more info on the current stability of edgy
[12:45] <canepazzo> :|
[12:46] <lws> kewl thanks
[12:46] <Flannel> canepazzo: have you installed build-essential yet?
[12:46] <lws> I'm mainly curious because I don't want to spend time futzing with the madwifi-ng stuff and am hoping edgy just fixes this
[12:46] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  thanks again.  I can't figure out WTF is going on with Apache.  it won't behave, so I'm going to purge it.
[12:46] <chanwoma1> what is the right script, I used   apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r'   be kind, I am 110 and a newbie.
[12:46] <canepazzo> Flannel, that was what I missed :|
[12:47] <Flannel> chanwoma1: I believe those should be back ticks, ` instead of '
[12:47] <chealer> chanwoma1: it's "`uname -r`", not "'uname -r'"
[12:47] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  too bad you wern't here, I'd invite you for a beer.  LOL.  Speaking of that....  I'm sitting in a pub right now.
[12:48] <chanwoma1> chealer, dumb question, which one is the back tick??
[12:49] <chealer> chanwoma1: right of ";"
[12:50] <Flannel> chanwoma1, chealer, no.  you want the one under ~, top left of most keyboards
[12:50] <Powerbook`> to use a wireless network, I open "networks"?
[12:50] <chanwoma1> Thanks Chealer, will try that.
[12:50] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  what perl moduals should I install?  every one of my installs (regaurdless of what I'm installing) allways complain about "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:"
[12:50] <chealer> doh
[12:50] <juanjo> i am trying to install ubuntu in a macbook, but i get again and again the "no syncing: io-apic + timer doesn't work' kernel panic ... isn't possible to install ubuntu?
[12:51] <Plouj> darned "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" (ipp can also be in place of "http")!
[12:52] <RawSewage> Anyone have a way to automatically join rar, unrar, par repair, etc for Usenet
[12:52] <Plouj> juanjo: I'd be surprised if there is no HOWTO for installing ubuntu on your macbook
[12:52] <Plouj> juanjo: did you google?
[12:53] <mabus> Help please! I lost my grub after installing windows after having had ubuntu already installed. I rescued grub fine, but now how to I get windows to boot up to finish installing?
[12:53] <juanjo> Plouj, of course, but i haven't found a solution for that problem.
[12:53] <brian98> !mac
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <brian98> :)
[12:53] <Flannel> mabus: this is not a windows support channel, we have no idea.
[12:53] <Flannel> mabus: you might try ##windows
[12:53] <Plouj> masterbender: you gotta edit /boot/grub/grub.conf or menu.lst to add an option to boot to windows
[12:54] <Plouj> oops
[12:54] <Jay_Levitt> Anyone here good with SASL?
[12:54] <Plouj> mabus: you gotta edit /boot/grub/grub.conf or menu.lst to add an option to boot to windows
[12:54] <Plouj> masterbender: that wasn't for you, sorry
[12:54] <masterbender> :)
[12:54] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  any ideas on that perl eror?
[12:54] <Plouj> mabus: google for grub windows menu
[12:54] <masterbender> the good old tab trap
[12:54] <stuh84> mabus: sounds like a problem i had
[12:55] <Flannel> Plouj: no, grub should already have a windows option, it autodetects, he just hasn't finished installing windows yet.
[12:55] <stuh84> best way i found was to take the setup disk for windows (2K it was for me)
[12:55] <ArrenLex> mabus: you can modify commands in grub as you boot up, or in /grub/menu.lst
[12:55] <ArrenLex> mabus: change the command\add the following line to /grub/menu.lst :
[12:55] <Flannel> jeeves_Moss: nope, sorry.
[12:55] <stuh84> go into the recovery console option
[12:55] <stuh84> type in fixmbr
[12:55] <ArrenLex> mabus:
[12:55] <mabus> Flannel: well it's probably an issue with grub booting things properly, it's a boot issue, not really either os'es problem
[12:55] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  ok, thanks
[12:55] <stuh84> then do the finish installing
[12:55] <ArrenLex> title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[12:55] <ArrenLex> root            (hd0,0)
[12:55] <ArrenLex> savedefault
[12:55] <ArrenLex> makeactive
[12:55] <ArrenLex> chainloader     +1
[12:55] <Flannel> ArrenLex: don't paste here.
[12:55] <stuh84> THEN once you've done that, do grub
[12:55] <ArrenLex> (sorry to paste, too lazy for pastebin)
[12:55] <ircleuser> In Context of -- 'can't access tty: job control turned off' error, I am now trying to reinstall ubuntu. However, I dont remember which parition mounted to home and which one to root.
[12:55] <mabus> Flannel: If you didn't want to help you could have just not said anything.
[12:55] <ircleuser> Os there some wa to find out
[12:55] <ArrenLex> Flannel: it wasn't that long. You'll live.
[12:56] <DigitalNinja> is there a way to edit the gnome menu
[12:56] <mabus> ArrenLex: see, you have xp on the first partition, which is supposed to save problems. :/ mine is on hda4
[12:56] <Flannel> ArrenLex: there are 860 people in this channel, if everyone started pasting...  just dont.
[12:56] <ArrenLex> Flannel: as you can see, only about 10 are talking at any given time.
[12:56] <Flannel> mabus: grub can handle windows fine, but you need windows to have finished installing properly first, it's a windows issue.
[12:57] <ArrenLex> Flannel: if everyone on earth turned on their TVs all at once, the electrical grids would overload. Thus, no one should watch TV?
[12:57] <LAF11540_> Am completely new to this - How do I get Ubuntu to recognise and allow me to format an external Western Digital 120 gig H/D?
[12:57] <ArrenLex> LAF: have you tried plugging it in to see if it gets recognised automagically?
[12:58] <LAF11540_> Yes
[12:58] <ArrenLex> LAF: What happen?
[12:58] <kitche> LAF11540_: is this a new hd?
[12:58] <LAF11540_> It regognises the HD but allows no command to format thus allowing use
[12:59] <mabus> Okay, well how do I get grub to go to the grub menu when booting instead of autobooting ubuntu
[12:59] <mabus> Or pressing f10 or whatever in the .5 seconds it gives you
[12:59] <stuh84> mabus: do you mind if i pm you?
[12:59] <ArrenLex> LAF: "allows no command to format" meaning "it forbids me from executing such a command" or "I don't know one"?
[12:59] <ircleuser> Hi - Is there some shell command to find out which logical drive is /usr/ mounted to and which one root is mounted to ?
[12:59] <LuisMendes> how can I make a .img file from a floppy disk?
[12:59] <Plouj> Flannel: then he'd have to edit grub manually to finish windows install, no?
[12:59] <mabus> stuh84: I'd appreciate it, if it's related to my problem.
[12:59] <LAF11540_> it forbids
[12:59] <Flannel> mabus: escape.  but, you can change the grub config to not hide the menu, 'hiddenmenu' option, I believe
[12:59] <ArrenLex> ircleuser: "mount"
[12:59] <kitche> LAF11540_: do you sudo when you try the command?
[01:00] <Flannel> Plouj: He should have finished the windows install before reinstalling grub
[01:00] <ircleuser> thanks arrenlex
[01:00] <ArrenLex> LAF: why, does it say?
[01:00] <ArrenLex> *what does it say?
[01:00] <Plouj> Flannel: ah
[01:00] <LAF11540_> don'y understand 'sudo'
[01:00] <Flannel> LAF11540_: are you running ubuntu?
[01:00] <LAF11540_> yes
[01:00] <gekko`> ircleuser: 'mount' shows you all mounted devices
[01:00] <ArrenLex> LAF: "sudo" temporarily gives you the magical power of an administrator. You should try it.
[01:01] <LAF11540_> cannot mount the device
[01:01] <ArrenLex> LAF: what command are you trying to execute?
[01:01] <kitche> LAF11540_: well you don't mount something to format it in reality
[01:01] <ice_1963> what is the name of program edit gnome's menu??
[01:02] <Flannel> ice_1963: alacarte
[01:02] <ice_1963> ok
[01:03] <ice_1963> thank you flannel
[01:03] <SilentOutcast> can someone help me setup printer sharing on my ubuntu server
[01:03] <ircleuser> I installed a video card driver in windows in my dual boot system. Would that have any affect on the linux partititon?
[01:04] <samuel__> hello
[01:04] <ircleuser> I ask bacuse I started getting this error following that can't access tty: job control turned off
[01:04] <pty> ircleuser: no
[01:04] <LuisMendes> how can I make a .img file from a floppy disk?
[01:04] <ircleuser> thanks pty
[01:04] <ztg> hi all, I'm running LTS 6.0 server and it's been running for over a month great but is now locking up all the time any ideas on where to begin trouble shooting
[01:05] <SilentOutcast> what packages would i have to install to share a printer connected to my linux box with my windows box
[01:05] <LAF11540_> I should explain - I go to 'places' - 'computer' it shows all H/D's - the 120 gig is indicated, but when I go to attempt to format, the format command is 'greyed'
[01:05] <Stix09> can anyone here help me with an install problem
[01:05] <ArrenLex> !ask
[01:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:05] <kitche> LAF11540_: you have to use sudo that's why your user doesn't have permissions to format the drive
[01:05] <onicrom> hey guys, I am wondering if you are able to compile all packages installed on your ubuntu system instead of just installing pkg's  AND if so can you set the gcc compile time options?
[01:06] <Flannel> onicrom: sure, you can download packages as source instead of binary
[01:06] <b^j> ztg, run memtest86+
[01:06] <JosefK> onicrom: you're thinking of Gentoo
[01:06] <Jay_Levitt> Anyone know how to use saslpasswd2 to create sasldb2 shared secrets?
[01:06] <Stix09> alright when i try to install ubuntu (text based install) it does the first few steps fine but when it gets to the part where i am supposed to parition my disk the screen just remains all blue and the partition utility never appears
[01:06] <LAF11540_> OK, I'll try it - but as I said - I'm new to this game - thanks for the input.
[01:07] <onicrom> Josefk, I know Id like the same functionality.
[01:07] <onicrom> Flannel, do you know of any docs that might help me with that?
[01:07] <Stix09> anyone know how i can get around that and install ubuntu
[01:08] <Flannel> onicrom: instead of 'apt-get install' 'apt-get source', then compile.  You'll probably also want apt-get build-deps
[01:08] <JosefK> onicrom: even if you download the source by hand and build it, you'll still need to checkinstall it so apt is aware it exists
[01:08] <Flannel> !tell onicrom about compile
[01:08] <stuh84> stix: only a guess but maybe the install disc is knackered?
[01:08] <red|rain> Hi, can I use aiglx even if I have the fglrx driver installed?
[01:08] <Plouj> yo
[01:09] <stuh84> stix: was it downloaded or did you get a shipit! cd?
[01:09] <Stix09> im not sure if the disk is clean or not, ill download a fresh copy and try again, but ive also had similar problems with other linux distros... i have a sata harddrive i was thinking that might be causing a problem?
[01:09] <SilentOutcast> what is the name of the package i have to install to install cups on my lamp server
[01:09] <Plouj> is there a way to somehow copy all the Ubuntu configurations that were made to the system to a fresh ubuntu install to make a sort of 'clone' system without actual user's data?
[01:09] <darkanyel> hi ppl
[01:10] <stuh84> stix: got very little experience with sata if i'm honest, only one sata drive in the house and its on one of me dads PC
[01:10] <darkanyel> can anyone help me with rhythmbox?
[01:10] <Stix09> alright well i guess ill dl another cd and try again
[01:10] <Stix09> and be back if it doesnt work
[01:10] <Stix09> thanks for the help
[01:10] <JosefK> Stix09: if you're not using SATA RAID - why not use them as IDE?
[01:11] <stuh84> its always the first thing i'd try, good luck mate
[01:11] <darkanyel> plz?
[01:11] <stuh84> dark: whats the problem with it?
[01:11] <onicrom> Thanks very much guys
[01:12] <darkanyel> i cant listen mp3 with rhytmbox
[01:12] <darkanyel> but i can with amarok
[01:12] <JosefK> !mp3 > darkanyel
[01:12] <bruenig> !mp3
[01:12] <DarkMageZ> !tell darkanyel about restrictedformats
[01:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:12] <Laney> np: Ace Of Base - Always Have, Always Will
[01:12] <darkanyel> :S
[01:12] <horizon> has anyone know vdr software?
[01:13] <Plouj> GAH! I don't understand why Ubuntu can't print to my Gentoo's CUPS server.
[01:13] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, basically, since mp3 format has some legal issues... no support for it is shiped with ubuntu, you can install support for it by following the instructions on the restrictedformats page in the wiki :P
[01:13] <darkanyel> but i dont undestand why can i listen mp3 with amarok and not with rhyhtmbox
[01:13] <stuh84> gstreamer issue maybe?
[01:13] <stuh84> or maybe i'm clutching at straws
[01:13] <Plouj> the CUPS server does not show any errors in it's logs so I'm pretty sure it's not an access restriction problem
[01:14] <mabus> so whats a good program to burn dvds with
[01:14] <Blinker> mabus: burn, or copy?
[01:14] <darkanyel> i install the support for mp3 a long time ago
[01:14] <Plouj> let me-repeat my question in full on one line ;)
[01:15] <stuh84> mabus: did you get the PM i sent you btw?
[01:15] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, you installed mp3 support for xine :P rhythmbox uses gstreamer
[01:15] <darkanyel> :?
[01:16] <darkanyel> i dont understad
[01:16] <darkanyel> :$
[01:16] <Plouj> GAH! I don't understand why Ubuntu can't print to my Gentoo's CUPS server. The CUPS server does not show any errors in it's logs so I'm pretty sure it's not an access restriction problem. Ubuntu's CUPS interface shows "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" (ipp can also be in place of "http")
[01:16] <Blinker> mabus: going once....
[01:16] <horizon> has anyone know the solution "vdr: please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR" ???
 I'll try that when if it locks up again, but it's a production server so I want it down as little as possible, is there anything else, I can't find anything in /var/log/syslog
[01:17] <mabus> stuh84: no i didn't
[01:17] <ice_1963> Blinker, gnomebaker right
[01:17] <stuh84> right i'll repost it to you
[01:17] <mabus> Blinker: burn.. just a data cd
[01:17] <mabus> dvd rather
[01:17] <Blinker> ice_1963: eh?
[01:17] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, ok, basically... amarok and rhythmbox are just user interfaces. they rely on a backend to play music, there are 2 general backends under linux. xine and gstreamer. you installed mp3 support for xine hence why mp3's work in amarok
[01:17] <ice_1963> or k3b
[01:17] <Blinker> mabus: the functionality for that is built right into nautilus. insert a blank dvd and it'll prompt you
[01:17] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, what you need to do is add mp3 support to gstreamer, all you need to do to get it is install "gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly"
[01:18] <mabus> Blinker: I have thunar, not nautilus
[01:18] <darkanyel> uhmmm
[01:18] <Blinker> mabus: youre on xubuntu?
[01:19] <stuh84> darkanyel: dya know how to load up synaptic?
[01:19] <mabus> Blinker: Yeah. But for generic questions I come to ubuntu because it's much more helpful.
[01:19] <stuh84> or a terminal, either will do
[01:19] <horizon> hey guys has anyone know the solution "vdr: please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR" ???
[01:19] <Blinker> stuh84: system > administration > synaptic...
[01:19] <JosefK> mabus: if you're on Xubuntu, try out gnomebaker
[01:20] <mabus> JosefK: thanks
[01:20] <stuh84> blinker: yeah i know myself :P i was trying to help that guy with gstreamer
[01:20] <DarkMageZ> stuh84, well, looks like that was alittle to complex for anyel :P
[01:20] <Blinker> mabus: hear ya.unfrtunately i'm not able to help with that one...my only burning machineruns ubu
[01:20] <kitche> horizon: yes you have to turn off UTF-8 it's probably in the settings for that app
[01:20] <stuh84> seems so......ha
[01:20] <Blinker> stuh84: ah, gotcha
[01:20] <horizon> yeah but the application doent start
[01:20] <stuh84> no worries though blink
[01:20] <horizon> i need to make it through console or someway
[01:20] <Blinker> ;)
[01:21] <horizon> i dont know
[01:21] <kitche> horizo: usually settings are kept in a .conf file
[01:21] <freezey_> why can i not write to my external hard drive?
[01:21] <freezey_> telling me its a read only file system
[01:21] <horizon> kitche > how may i do it?
[01:22] <stuh84> i'll let others clarify, but i'll take a stab at it being formatted to ntfs
[01:22] <Blinker> freezey: you'll have to change permissions or sudo it through terminal
[01:22] <kitche> freezey_: because it is, most likely you are writing as a user and not an admin
[01:22] <JosefK> horizon: are you comfortable in a terminal?
[01:22] <horizon> yeah
[01:22] <freezey_> kitche: ok sooo even if i sudo the command
[01:22] <freezey_> kitche: that should be writing it as an admin tho correct?
[01:22] <JosefK> try 'export LANG="C"' and then 'vdr'
[01:22] <wanted> boy, how redirect X in two $DISPLAY ??
[01:22] <stuh84> freezey: thats the deal yes
[01:23] <kitche> freezey_: yes make sure it's mounted as rw also could have mounted as ro
[01:23] <freezey_> kitch: /dev/sdb1 on /media/New Volume type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[01:23] <stuh84> there we go
[01:23] <stuh84> its ntfs
[01:23] <lostinc> Is there any software that will backup a selection of folders to USB Harddrive periodically without user intervention??
[01:23] <JosefK> lostinc: rsync and cron
[01:23] <stuh84> you either need captive-ntfs, which i'm not sure how stable it is
[01:24] <kitche> freezey_: ah ok you have ntfs-3g installed
[01:24] <JosefK> lostinc: you'll need to google for documentation though
[01:24] <hesperus> hi guys
[01:24] <lostinc> Okay
[01:24] <Blinker> there is no reliable way to write to ntfs in linux
[01:24] <lupine_85> course there isd
[01:24] <horizon> josef> ok done but now "vdr: can't access video directory /video"
[01:24] <lupine_85> use Windows XP in a VMWare session
[01:24] <freezey_> i just need to move some drivers over thats all
[01:24] <stuh84> yeah i was under that impression too blinker
[01:24] <hesperus> does linux-restricted-modules-686 include nvidia.ko module?
[01:24] <kitche> freezey_: since you can't write to an ntfs under linux by default
[01:24] <freezey_> ok
[01:24] <freezey_> so what should i do
[01:24] <lupine_85> hesperus: yes
[01:24] <kitche> !ntfs > freezey_
[01:24] <JosefK> horizon: try hacking it's config files to use /tmp, or another suitably large partition on your system
[01:24] <stuh84> i'd say format it to fat32 meself if you can
[01:25] <hesperus> lupine_85: well, i can't find it anywhere
[01:25] <JosefK> horizon: if that fails, make a '/video' directory and give yourself +rwx on it
[01:25] <hesperus> maybe the 386 is more complete?
[01:25] <horizon> it s located in fact in home directory
[01:25] <JosefK> /video != ~/video
[01:25] <lupine_85> try this: dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-686
[01:25] <horizon> maybe it is better ./vdr at directory
[01:25] <lupine_85> or: dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-686 |grep ko (if you're lazy)
[01:26] <hesperus> lupine_85: thx, let's grep it =)
[01:27] <stuh84> just to say, can anyone pull me up on anytime i say something wrong, i'm not an ubuntu expert by a long shot, just spent a fair bit of time tinkering with it
[01:27] <darkanyel> hi
[01:27] <darkanyel> thanks
[01:27] <hesperus> lupine_85: there is no nvidia.ko, only nv-kernel.o which is approximately ~5MB
[01:27] <stuh84> aha darkanyel returns
[01:27] <darkanyel> i can now listen mp3
[01:28] <darkanyel> but i have a question
[01:28] <darkanyel> how can i make amarok my default musik player?
[01:29] <Sourcemage> When I delete things from /Desktop are they removed permanetly? or do they go to some non-visible trash bag!
[01:29] <lupine_85> hmm, strange. maybe it's in nvidia-glx?
[01:29] <Sourcemage> ?*
[01:29] <Blinker> Sourcemage: bottom right of the screen should show your trash bin
[01:29] <jeeves_Moss> all:  does any one know what this error means and how to fix it?  "perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale"
[01:29] <jiSh> darkanyel: right click an mp3 in konqueror and go top "open with" menu and then "other" and in the box make amarok default
[01:30] <Sourcemage> ahhhhhhhhh it's iconified now, : p
[01:30] <Blinker> ;)
[01:30] <Sourcemage> thanks Blinker lol, didn't even notice
[01:30] <hesperus> lupine_85: nope
[01:30] <darkanyel> i already do that
[01:30] <Blinker> thats ok...things are easy to overlook sometimes...even i'm guilty of it on occasion
[01:30] <darkanyel> when i do 2 click in an icon of mp3 it open amarok
[01:31] <darkanyel> i mean, in my keyboard i have an extra button with the simblo of music, and when i press that button open rhyhtmbox
[01:31] <lupine_85> not really sure then
[01:31] <hesperus> lupine_85: have a look if you don't mind -> http://pastebin.ca/182371
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Blinker: Sometimes it just easier to take a little flak for asking an obvious question
[01:31] <mabus> JosefK: Um, I don't see how to burn a dvd with gnomebaker
[01:31] <darkanyel> i wanna amarok and not rhyhtmbox in that button
[01:31] <hesperus> that nv-kernel.o seems to be a "raw" object to-be-compiled, i want the precompiled nvidia.ko actually
[01:31] <TracerBullet> does an xv package exist for ubuntu ?
[01:32] <len> Hi, can Any1 help me enable my Direct Rendering???
[01:32] <Blinker> the only stupid question is one not asked
[01:32] <juanjo> anyone using ubuntu on a macbook?
[01:32] <cafuego> hesperus: That'
[01:32] <cafuego> s in linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[01:32] <funkygreendogs> yo can anyone help me im trying to add ubuntu to lilo so i can dual boot with mandrake and winxp
[01:32] <hesperus> cafuego: this package is installed...
[01:32] <JosefK> mabus: I haven't got it right in front of me, but I think you just drag files into the bottom list, then click 'burn'
[01:33] <funkygreendogs> what path should i type for the kernel
[01:33] <hesperus> can someone confirm that nvidia.ko exists in i386 but not in i686 ?
[01:33] <ice_1963> who know's when flashplayer 9 be ready for linux ?
[01:33] <hesperus> ice_1963: 2007+
[01:33] <len> any1?
[01:33] <Sourcemage> len you'll have to be more specific, I find that the generalized questions are left unanswered : P
[01:34] <horizon> josef> where will I make video directory?
[01:34] <cafuego> hesperus: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile/nvidia.ko
[01:34] <len> Sourcemage: I'm nb in linux, sorry
[01:34] <horizon> in which directory
[01:34] <JosefK> horizon: wherever it asks you to
[01:34] <hesperus> cafuego: i've done find /lib/modules -iname *nvidia*
[01:34] <ice_1963> f flashplayer then :)
[01:34] <horizon> it doent show me a path
[01:34] <hesperus> nothing like that exists
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> len: Start by identifying what video card/chipset you have and if you have installed the drivers for that card yet
[01:34] <stuh84> Juanjo: http://bin-false.org/?p=17 this of any help to you?
[01:34] <JosefK> horizon: you may be best making one under /var, say /var/video, and if it wants it in root, symlink it
[01:34] <dan2> cafuego: I didn't know you used ubuntu?
[01:35] <cafuego> dan2: have for ages. As well as Debian.
[01:35] <horizon> ok now i try
[01:35] <len> the thing is I have a geforce 7800 gtx and when I use in shell: glxinfo | grep "direct" says 'direct rendering: No'
[01:35] <horizon> but i use suse linux
[01:35] <len> I used the Nvidia Binary drives.
[01:35] <horizon> is it a problem?
[01:35] <JosefK> horizon: if you're using SuSE, I really don't know.
[01:35] <JosefK> horizon: it has its own magic, but this would probably be fine.
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[01:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:36] <horizon> i think the mentality could be same
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> len: is that the link you used?
[01:36] <wanted> boy, how redirect X in two $DISPLAY ??
[01:36] <funkygreendogs> what path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel ???
[01:36] <len> Jack_Sparrow: I used nvidia binary... seems to be working
[01:36] <juanjo> stuh84, i have read an followed that, but i have problems cause i get the apic kernel panic 99% of the times y boot, and also cause the install program hangs when the copying process is by the 40%
[01:36] <horizon> i try /var/video
[01:37] <JosefK> horizon: don't forget to symlink it to /video .
[01:37] <hesperus> is anyone using the 686 kernel (not the default 386)?
[01:37] <darkanyel> me
[01:37] <horizon> symlink?
[01:37] <stuh84> not much i can help with then, dont own a mac....yet
[01:37] <horizon> can you explain?
[01:37] <darkanyel> im sing 686
[01:37] <WhiteDeth> Hey, just about to install Ubuntu for the first time...
[01:37] <TracerBullet> I want to use a package that's available in debian non-free with ubuntu .. whats the best way to do it ?
[01:37] <hesperus> darkanyel: do you have the nvidia.ko module?
[01:37] <len> Jack_Sparrow: I 1st followed this tutorial, but some steps were different so I just used 'sudo ssh NVIDIA<...>' then it self instaled
[01:37] <darkanyel> nop
[01:37] <WhiteDeth> Is it best to download the drivers et al beforehand?
[01:37] <lupine_85> TracerBullet: cautiously :)
[01:37] <hesperus> darkanyel: so, it's officially missing from the 686 package
[01:37] <darkanyel> i use ati
[01:38] <TracerBullet> lol lupine_85 .. that's why i'm asking here :-)
[01:38] <cafuego> WhiteDeth: no, they're pretty much all included.
[01:38] <lupine_85> Your best bet would be to get and build the source package, if the .deb doesn't exist in dapper
[01:38] <stuh84> whitedeth: your best bet is to load the live cd
[01:38] <darkanyel> dont know :S
[01:38] <stuh84> and see what works and doesn't work
[01:38] <Xenguy> WhiteDeth: try the live cd first to test various hardware compability
[01:38] <cafuego> WhiteDeth: And if not included, at least prepackaged for easy use and maintanability.
[01:38] <hesperus> darkanyel: i thought all closed modules are in the linux-restricted package...
[01:38] <stuh84> more often than not nearly everything will work
[01:38] <ztg> ubuntu-server keeps locking up any ideas?
[01:38] <WhiteDeth> I think that's what I downloaded. Is the Live CD what I downloaded straight from Ubuntu.com ? :\
[01:38] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, did you end up sorting that issue that when you press the music button on your keyboard that it opens rhythmbox instread of amarok?
[01:38] <stuh84> whitedeth: it should be
[01:38] <stuh84> best way to test, put it in your drive
[01:38] <cafuego> hesperus: They are, but some people think that usinf nvidia ones is somehow a better idea (it's not).
[01:39] <stuh84> start the pc up
[01:39] <Xenguy> WhiteDeth: the live cd and the install cd are the same cd for dapper now
[01:39] <stuh84> watch, and wait for the ubuntu splash screen
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> len: Please post your xorg.conf to the !pastebin for people to chack it out.
[01:39] <lupine_85> cafuego: the 9xxx series drivers r0x0r
[01:39] <lupine_85> but they aren't in the repos ;)
[01:39] <mdkaneda> i'm having a serious problem! lol. I had ubuntu on my system installed on HDA w/ no other operating systems. I needed to install windows xp again on this machine, so i decided to put my other HD into this system as HDA, and move the existing HDA to HDB (because i knew windows would have a problem if it wasnt on the 1st partition of the 1st drive)... i changed my fstab and grub config files, installed WinXP, and reinstalled Grub into HDA
[01:39] <funkygreendogs> Anyone: What path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel ???
[01:39] <len> Jack_Sparrow: kk just 1 sec
[01:39] <cafuego> lupine_85: The ones in the repo work fine.
[01:39] <hesperus> cafuego: i didn't understand what you mean
[01:39] <cafuego> lupine_85: And are easy for most people to manage.
[01:39] <lupine_85> true enough
[01:39] <TracerBullet> lupine_85 is there a way to install a build environment without bringing down each package individually ??
[01:39] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ no
[01:39] <lupine_85> TracerBullet: pbuilder ?
[01:40] <hesperus> should i use the VESA drivers but not the closed nvidia ones?
[01:40] <stuh84> mkaneda: whats the actual problem then
[01:40] <stuh84> ?
[01:40] <lupine_85> but then, morse code works "fine"... as does IPoAC
[01:40] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, no i dont know how can i configure that
[01:40] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, nvm, i thought i knew where that was... but i just tried finding it again and no luck, sry
[01:40] <lupine_85> (avian carrier)
[01:40] <TracerBullet> gcc / make / and the ac-* family
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential
[01:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:40] <len> Jack_Sparrow:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24823
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> checking
[01:40] <mdkaneda> stuh84: it wont mount root, its looking in the wrong spot. cant get in to change fstab to actually boot my files
[01:41] <hesperus> cafuego: ?
[01:41] <stuh84> hmm, boot up the ubuntu live cd and edit from within there maybe?
[01:41] <WhiteDeth> how much space is recommended for a partition to have to install Ubuntu?
[01:41] <lupine_85> mind you, I've always had problems with the linux-restricted-modules package
[01:41] <TracerBullet> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[01:41] <stuh84> whitedeth: I've done it on about 4 gig before with no problems, but if you intend to use it properly, a good 10 at least
[01:41] <cafuego> hesperus: Some people insist on doing things the hard way. Unfortunately that means they can make it impossible for others to manage their Linux install properly.
[01:41] <Xenguy> WhiteDeth: minimum 4 Gb IIRC
[01:42] <mheath> Hmmm. I have a bunch of .deb files locally. What do I need to do to just dpkg -i one of them, and have it auto resolve dependencies using other local files?
[01:42] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, but isnt a way to change the default programs of ubuntu??
[01:42] <WhiteDeth> Heh, awesome, im gonna be writing it over my Windows Vista partition, so that's a good 20GB there.
[01:42] <lupine_85> mheath: dpkg -i *deb would work better
[01:42] <hesperus> cafuego: i don't get you pal... what am i doing wrong?
[01:42] <cafuego> hesperus: Nothing. Not you :-)
[01:42] <mheath> lupine_85, well, I'm not sure I need all the packages. I just really need _one_, and any dependencies it happens to need.
[01:42] <lupine_85> ah
[01:42] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, oh there is, i thought i remembered it, but i tried to find it again, but i couldn't.
[01:42] <hesperus> i'm downloading the 386 kernel again... let's see
[01:43] <stuh84> whitedeth: 20 gig is fine :) my ubuntu install on my other pc is 16 gig, 8 gig on this (although i'm not in it, still need to sort out the wireless on this laptop, but that will come in time)
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> TracerBullet: np
[01:43] <lupine_85> dpkg "might" resolve the dependencies if they're in the same dir.. but then again it might not
[01:43] <mdkaneda> i tried booting several restore discs, and nothing chroots into my environment. if i sit on ubuntu long enough, it says "mounting root file system" and eventually says "cant find root on hda2, going to shell" and i can get there, what can i type to chroot into my filesystem to change my fstab?
[01:43] <lupine_85> give it a try
[01:43] <cafuego> it doesn't.
[01:43] <Jay_Levitt> Anyone here know how to use saslpasswd2 and sasldb2 correctly?
[01:43] <funkygreendogs> anyone know What path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel?
[01:43] <hesperus> ok, it's a bug
[01:43] <mheath> lupine_85, will do :) I guess if worst comes to worst I can always extract the pkg and look at the deps myself :)
[01:43] <hesperus>  /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile/nvidia.ko exists !
[01:43] <setuid> How do I fix pmount/udev to remove devices from the desktop when I unplug them?
[01:43] <WhiteDeth> stuh84: Is there a list of all hardware compatible with Ubuntu's live CD? I'm actually looking to install XGL and Compiz, which is the main reason behind me installing Linux AT ALL.
[01:43] <stuh84> well cant you just do gksu gedit /etc/fstab?
[01:43] <hesperus> the 686 version doesn't exist at all! isn't that wierd?
[01:43] <lupine_85> hesperus: yep, deginitely a bug
[01:43] <lupine_85> !bugs
[01:43] <jrib> setuid: you should eject before you unplug
[01:43] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <mdkaneda> no, because its not loading root... there is not /etc/fstab
[01:44] <setuid> jrib, that's not always possible, and it used to work
[01:44] <stuh84> ah yes right i get you now
[01:44] <stuh84> and no way of mounting within the livecd i take it too?
[01:44] <jrib> setuid: what device is this?
[01:44] <mdkaneda> hm, well havnt tried putting the graphical live cd in and mounting from that, maybe i should try that first
[01:45] <lupine_85> hesperus: so you can either do it "properly" and report the bug, maybe build a l-r-m with the module if you're any good at that sort of thing, or wait for it to be fixed... use a different kernel... or use the nvidia installer
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> len: I have an additional section for my nvidia  6600 Line 1:  Section "DRI"    then line 2    Mode	0666   then line 3  EndSection
[01:45] <stuh84> yeah seems like a good opton to me
[01:45] <lupine_85> that's in order of "ubuntu properness", of course
[01:45] <mdkaneda> alright, well i'll give that a shot, and if no-go then i'll come back. hehe
[01:45] <stuh84> whitedeth: doesn't really need to find a list, just put the cd in, reboot, and see if it works fine
[01:46] <WhiteDeth> oh, the Live CD doesnt install?
[01:46] <stuh84> as long as you have an nvidia or ati card though there are a furious amount of tutorials on how to setup XGL and compiz
[01:46] <setuid> jrib, CF card plugged into an external card reader over USB
[01:46] <WhiteDeth> does it just run like Knoppix? :\
[01:46] <lupine_85> nope :p
[01:46] <stuh84> yeah basically
[01:46] <grout> whens edgy eft supposed to be released?
[01:46] <lupine_85> and compiz-quinn is broken at the moment
[01:46] <len> Jack_Sparrow: I used to had that line 2, but it should make no difference since in Modules section i got Load "DRI" commented
[01:46] <WhiteDeth> that sucks. How do I have it installed on my system? :\
[01:46] <lupine_85> your best bet is to wait for beryl's first pre-release
[01:46] <hesperus> lupine_85: i'll use the default 386...
[01:46] <stuh84> you can install it from within the lice cd
[01:46] <stuh84> *live
[01:46] <stuh84> it has both options
[01:46] <WhiteDeth> ahh
[01:46] <lupine_85> ok. not much of a performance hit at all
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> so I try it out first, by just rebooting, and then install it.
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> am I right?
[01:47] <stuh84> even better than that
[01:47] <len> Jack_Sparrow: but I just added anyway
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> len: Someone better at that will need to help you...  I am stretched kinda thina atm
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> awesome, im running an nVidia 7900GS.
[01:47] <stuh84> you can install it from within the environment it loads up
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> oh?
[01:47] <stuh84> you just double click the install icon you'll get
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> wow. Where the hell have I been living!
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> this sounds awesome.
[01:47] <funkygreendogs> anyone know What path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel?
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> WhiteDeth: Can you help Len with his..?
[01:47] <setuid> bleh
[01:48] <WhiteDeth> I'd love to, but it's my first time using Ubuntu :P
[01:48] <WhiteDeth> I've no experience.
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> WhiteDeth: np
[01:48] <len> lol
[01:48] <WhiteDeth> beta nVidia drivers?
[01:48] <stuh84> whitedeth: i have to say it took me by surprise when i first loaded up the live cd and saw the install
[01:48] <lupine_85> ooops :D
[01:48] <len> WhiteDeth: binary
[01:48] <stuh84> what took me even more by surprise is it all just worked too
[01:49] <lupine_85> *plonk*
[01:49] <ryanakca> cafuego: /query?
[01:49] <horizon> josefk> i couldnt do it but thnx anyway it s better to try through suse forums
[01:49] <cafuego> ryanakca: /which one?
[01:50] <lupine_85> WhiteDeth: assuming your "awesome" is about beryl/compiz, the nvidia beta drivers obsolete Xgl
[01:50] <lupine_85> well, sort of
[01:50] <lupine_85> it's only really useful in edgy
[01:50] <WhiteDeth> so wait...
[01:50] <WhiteDeth> XGL are simply drivers?
[01:50] <WhiteDeth> and Compiz is that awesome 3D-desktop thing?
[01:51] <lupine_85> no, Xgl is a big window
[01:51] <Cyberai> hey, I am running Dapper with a radeon 9200 video card and an Acer 19" widescreen LCD. My LCD supports 1440x900 as it's best native resolution, but when I set my resolution to that I get very dark weird color. I have to go down to 1280x768 to get anything useable. I tried doing a sudo dpkg reconfig on xorg but no luck.
[01:51] <WhiteDeth> sorry, im completely new to the scene.
[01:51] <lupine_85> compiz runs inside that big window, if you're using Xgl
[01:51] <stodge> Hi folks. I just installed Dapper Drake. How painless is the upgrade from it to Edgy?
[01:51] <Cyberai> does anyone have any insight on this problem?
[01:51] <lupine_85> AIGLX or the new nvidia drivers means that you don't use a big window any more
[01:51] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: driver?
[01:51] <jrib> stodge: edgy is still in development
[01:51] <WhiteDeth> OH
[01:51] <lupine_85> stodge: moderately painless
[01:51] <hesperus> what do "rc" and "ii" mean in dpkg -l ?
[01:51] <lupine_85> not recommended though
[01:51] <WhiteDeth> so it was as if it's emulated?
[01:51] <chuckyp> stodge, painless?  you might as well punch yourself in the junk.
[01:51] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, tried that, Im on the newest ATI
[01:51] <DarkMageZ> stodge, is it a clean dapper install or have you added 3rd party stuff :P
[01:52] <lupine_85> WhiteDeth: sort of.
[01:52] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: "newest ATI" = "ati"? "atimisc"? "radeon"? "fglrx"?
[01:52] <fourat> hello all
[01:52] <hesperus> the man page doesn't say anything :|
[01:52] <dodger> edgy runs smoothly. however, I would go from knot3
[01:52] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, let me look
[01:52] <stodge> Ah ok
[01:52] <WhiteDeth> so what im really looking for now is AIGLX and Compiz?
[01:52] <lupine_85> not really
[01:52] <fourat> how can i get the 2.6.28 kernel on my dapper drake ?
[01:52] <WhiteDeth> lupine: Is there a new version of Compiz that I should be looking at too?
[01:52] <stodge> That's a shame as Nautilus' slow speed is starting to grate on me
[01:52] <WhiteDeth> oh
[01:52] <fourat> (clean way)
[01:52] <lupine_85> beryl is a fork of compiz
[01:52] <WhiteDeth> heh. Im lost now.
[01:52] <lupine_85> #ubuntu-xgl
[01:52] <dodger> fourat: compile?
[01:52] <fredl> Cyberai, you know you're on the newest but you need to look which one you're using?
[01:53] <lupine_85> we're OT here
[01:53] <Cyberai> fredl, I ran sudo upgrade
[01:53] <Flannel> fourat: yeah, you can't 'cleanly'
[01:53] <jpzor> hello all... having trouble with v4l i have a bt848 card and getting this when i try to start up xawtv:
[01:53] <stodge> darkmagez: I've since installed NVIDIA drivers and F-Spot, TomBoy and Thunderbird
[01:53] <jpzor> xf86dganodirectvideomode
[01:53] <fredl> ah sudo upgrade... man I need to go to bed.
[01:53] <fredl> 'nite.
[01:53] <jpzor> X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[01:53] <jpzor>   Major opcode of failed request:  136 (XFree86-DGA)
[01:53] <jpzor>   Minor opcode of failed request:  1 (XF86DGAGetVideoLL)
[01:53] <jpzor>   Serial number of failed request:  13
[01:53] <jpzor>   Current serial number in output stream:  13
[01:53] <DarkMageZ> stodge, from the offical ubuntu repositories? or by hand?
[01:53] <Flannel> !paste
[01:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:54] <stodge> darkmagez: Official repositories
[01:54] <Cyberai> sorry fredl, I ran sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:54] <Cyberai> sorry
[01:54] <stodge> Haven't added any new repos
[01:54] <chuckyp> stodge, I would recommend a clean install but I did a dist-upgrade on one machine.  There will be errors though I can garantee that.
[01:54] <stodge> Ok maybe I'll wait. I'
[01:54] <stodge> I'll read the roadmap find out when the next release is
[01:54] <chuckyp> stodge, well if you have a seperate home partition what do you have to lose?
[01:54] <fredl> it's okay Cyberai I'm just uhh edgy shall we say :P
[01:54] <stodge> Not much - I'm just tired of re-installing Linux :)
[01:55] <DarkMageZ> stodge, it would be best to do a clean install of knot 3, but it is possible to do a clean dist-upgrade
[01:55] <chuckyp> DarkMageZ, exactly
[01:55] <stodge> knot 3? Not familiar with that
[01:55] <chuckyp> stodge, I dont' see the dist-upgrade failing I just don't think its that clean
[01:55] <alex222> any do i get the latest version of gnome baker (0.6)
[01:55] <dodger> stodge: knot3 is your friend
[01:55] <DarkMageZ> stodge, it's the name for the alpha of edgy :P
[01:55] <chuckyp> stodge, knot3 is the current version of edgy
[01:55] <stodge> Thanks chuckyp
[01:55] <stodge> Ah :)
[01:55] <stodge> Thanks all
[01:55] <alex222> The SPM only shows 0.5
[01:56] <stodge> I've been away from Ubuntu for a wee while and haven't followed the news
[01:56] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, fredl, I'm running xorg-driver-fglrx and xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[01:56] <hesperus> how can i disable the usplash stuff?
[01:57] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: fglrx, I'm assuming. DV or VGA? Anything special about your setup like dual head?
[01:57] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, VGA, nothing special
[01:57] <stodge> Is it possible to tell fspot where the photos should be stored?
[01:57] <ArrenLex> hesperus: you mean, the ubuntu bootsplash, so you can see the kernel messages?
[01:57] <hesperus> it's disabled from sysv-rc-conf, but i see it again on boot
[01:57] <spiderworm> hey all, ever since i started using xgl-compiz on this machine, the binaries in my ~/bin directory are no longer in my PATH, although the directory is still listed in my .bash_profile file..... anyone know anything about this?
[01:57] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:57] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, I just realized DRI was on, big no-no with ATI, could that be causing it?
[01:57] <hesperus> ArrenLex: yeap, i don't want any splash at all :)
[01:58] <ArrenLex> hesperus: it's in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:58] <DarkMageZ> alex222, you need to ask for a backport of gnome-baker from edgy to dapper. edgy has 0.6
[01:58] <stumbles> Interesting... the "About Ubuntu" page provides no useful information about what "free software" and doesn't link to any place that does. It also makes no mention of the GNU project or the GNU GPL.
[01:58] <hesperus> ArrenLex: kernel option?
[01:58] <hesperus> let's see
[01:58] <ArrenLex> hesperus: find the option where it says whether to add splash to the entries and disable it. Then run grub-update.
[01:58] <dodger> hesperus I didn't try it, but removing splash from your kernel entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst should do the trick.
[01:58] <hesperus> i thought it was a boot service
[01:58] <ArrenLex> hes: or whatever the command is.
[01:58] <fredrich> anyone know if there's a .deb of sharehound circulating somewhere? it seems hard to install
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: How did you install xgl/compiz on your computer?  What tutorial?
[01:59] <chamo> any webmaster working on Ubuntu ? I got some caracters problem when I upload the page on the webserver, like on http://www.brigitte-ravenel.ch/brigitte.php
[01:59] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, http://paste.uni.cc/10393
[01:59] <dodger> chamo: that's a mess
[02:00] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: dude, man, if you don't know how to answer a question, tell us you don't know rather than making up bullshit.     Driver  "ati"
[02:00] <chamo> dodger: yeah, and I don't understand why on my local Apache server it works fine, but after upload online, it's a mess
[02:00] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: you're running the "ati" driver, not "fglrx".
[02:00] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, sorry DUDE, I looked it up in synaptic DUDE
[02:00] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: I suggest you change it to radeon, or else fglrx.
[02:01] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, wow
[02:01] <supermiguel> what is the easiest way to set up an ftp server?
[02:01] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, you know, there are lots of brands of decaf that are just as tasty at the regular coffee, try it
[02:01] <chamo> anyone ?
[02:01] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, but thanks for the help, sarcastic though it may be
[02:02] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: the use of the word "dude" doesn't imply I'm mad at you. xD I'm just pointing out that you might want to answer questions correctly.
[02:02] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: neither am I sarcastic.
[02:02] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: the wiki, same URL that the bot mentions when asking it about xgl
[02:02] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, I just resent being acussed of bulshitting
[02:02] <chamo> hehe
[02:02] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: i was in KDE at first and i was having the problem in kde
[02:03] <stuh84> chamo: best i can think of is some language packs issue, where its got language packs native to your editor
[02:03] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, sorry I didn't read your mond as to where to look it up
[02:03] <dodger> chamo: I guess your local apache is set up correctly for your french, but the one you upload to isn't. I see you are usinh php. as far as I know, php has to be comipled in a special way to use specail character sets.
[02:03] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: well what would your term for making up answers be?
[02:03] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: now im using gnome and having the same problem
[02:03] <stuh84> actually thinking about it no nevermind
[02:03] <stuh84> cos you'll have previewed it in your browser
[02:03] <stuh84> hmm
[02:03] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: that's fine! There are no problems with that. But if you're not sure let me know and I'll tell you.
[02:03] <stuh84> might be a php issue
[02:03] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, well let's see, when your reaching a contradiction, check your premises, one of them is wrong
[02:03] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: im wondering if the problem really is not compiz/xgl but instead a gnome-terminal setting, where it doesnt use the .bash_profile file?
[02:03] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, I looked in synaptic = not bullshit
[02:03] <Cyberai> geez
[02:04] <stuh84> dodger: i think thats what i was trying to get at
[02:04] <chamo> dodger, stuh84 : thanks. I'll dig into it. Hard to find a convenient solution.
[02:04] <THX-1138> Hi Jack_Sparrow
[02:04] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: synaptic tells you what packages you have installed, it doesn't say what driver you're currently using. I have the vesa package installed, but I'm definitely not using vesa.
[02:04] <spiderworm> yeah Jack_Sparrow i figured it out :) sheesh! thanks
[02:04] <ArrenLex> Speaking of which, why the hell do I have the vesa package installed? *removes*
[02:04] <Cyberai> arrogance like this is why windows people hate linux people. I'm a pretty long time linux guy and it ticks me off sometimes the attitude I get when I ask a question and I get atitude for not knowing exactly what someone means.
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> great
[02:05] <Cyberai> I can only imagine how it feels ota newbie
[02:05] <mabus> Cyberai: it looks like arrenlex is trying to help, relax
[02:05] <|thunder> wassup all.
[02:05] <hesperus> Cyberai: hey, chill out, ubuntu people are the less arrogant linux people IMHO
[02:05] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: a newbie would say "how do I find that out?" and things would progress quickly. The point I'm trying to make is that it's hard to help someone when they make up answers to your questions.
[02:05] <neom> Oh, hey! I tried the intel version of the ubundu liveCD on my macbook today, it like.. booted to some odd quake2 like menu with burning ubuntu and asked me how I wanted to install.. :S I didn't want to install.. I just wanted to run the liveCD to see what ubuntu looks like these day? :S
[02:05] <|thunder> whats the easiest way to burn an ISO to CD ?
[02:05] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: in the gnome terminal > edit > current profile > enable Run command as a login shell
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: Noted..
[02:06] <ArrenLex> neom: did you download the "desktop" or the "alternate" cd?
[02:06] <Xenguy> |thunder: k3b (unless you want command-line)
[02:06] <jrib> |thunder: right click on the .iso and select "write to disc..."
[02:06] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, that's my point. I didn't make it up. how hard is that for you to understand?
[02:06] <mabus> neom: what's the filename of the iso you downloaded
[02:06] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: but i suspect you already knew that
[02:06] <ArrenLex> !tell |thunder about !iso
[02:06] <stuh84> yeah was gonna say, sounds like you've got the wrong version
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about !iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <ArrenLex> /tell |thunder about !iso
[02:06] <ArrenLex> Whichever one of those works. xD
[02:06] <neom> edgy-alternate-i3866.iso :S
[02:06] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, I looked in the wrong place, BIG difference
[02:06] <stuh84> theres the prob
[02:06] <neom> I'm gonna presume I'm an idiot?
[02:06] <stuh84> dont get the alternate
[02:06] <neom> k
[02:07] <stuh84> :P you said it first neom
[02:07] <neom> :P
[02:07] <Xenguy> |thunder: growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=____.iso    :-)
[02:07] <neom> I'm not afraid to admit my own incompetence. :D
[02:07] <Cyberai> anyway, off to restart X
[02:07] <mabus> neom: I'm presuming you got the wrong cd.
[02:07] <stuh84> its not your incompetence
[02:07] <chamo> dodger, stuh84 : tried with a copy in html format, same problem : http://www.brigitte-ravenel.ch/brigitte.html
[02:07] <THX-1138> thunder - gnomebaker is graphical cdrecord or cdrtools is commandline.
[02:07] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: fine, fine, honest mistake, let's proceed.
[02:07] <mabus> neom: But useful to have, no worries. Just download the right one, burn it, and keep your alternate cd.
[02:07] <stuh84> its everyone else is too intelligent :p
[02:07] <spiderworm> neom: I'm not afraid to admit your incompetence either.
[02:07] <mabus> ArrenLex: he's gone ;)
[02:07] <ArrenLex> Yay!
[02:07] <|thunder> noemWow thanks ArrenLex and Xenguy jrib and THX-1138 .   theres a million ways, lol
[02:08] <ArrenLex> That was annoying.
[02:08] <stuh84> the alternate is great for fixing grub i have to say
[02:08] <neom> Also, can the liveCD effect (negatively) my OS X partition?
[02:08] <|thunder> writing ubuntu32 at 8x on my 64x writer.   :)
[02:08] <stuh84> and just general repair/upgrades
[02:08] <ArrenLex> neom: no, the liveCD doesn't touch your disc.
[02:08] <mabus> neom: On the plus side, I didn't know the alternate cd was like the breezy install cd... I missed that form of installation over the desktop cd of dapper drake.
[02:09] <kitche> neom: unless you mess with the parition :)
[02:09] <ArrenLex> mabus: I know. I hate the graphical installer too; I installed from alternate.
[02:09] <mabus> neom: although you have the option to install off of the livecd with a VERY VERY simple program right on the desktop. It's like a 3 step gui questionaire.. easier than windows
[02:09] <stuh84> yep, heres a tip, dont open gparted :P
[02:09] <stuh84> otherwise known as the Gnome Partition Editor
[02:09] <THX-1138> mabus - Can i ask a question about DVD burning and the "Book Type" setting? - How do i see what model DVD drive i have?
[02:09] <dodger> chamo: you could try using quanta. when you type a special character, it offers you the correct html code for it.
[02:09] <stuh84> or as is mentioned the install
[02:09] <stuh84> just dont open either of the two and you'll be fine
[02:10] <kyja> how would I use qemu to boot up another linux distro =]
[02:10] <stuh84> it'll be blindingly obvious that you've opened them though
[02:10] <ArrenLex> neom: to summarise everyone's frantic warnings: NO, unless you go to the icon clearly marked 'install now' and then click past five screens properly, intelligently set your partition options and then confirm it like twice.
[02:10] <stuh84> so dont worry about for want of a better phrase, twatting things up
[02:10] <ArrenLex> neom: aka no.
[02:10] <THX-1138> !qemu
[02:10] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:10] <neom> Alright, cool.
[02:10] <chamo> dodger: thanks. I heard it might be a BOM
[02:10] <chamo> due to SCITE
[02:10] <kyja> thx
[02:10] <neom> I thank you for your adivce guys!
[02:10] <dodger> chamo: BOM?
[02:11] <mog> hi
[02:11] <mog> can someone tell me how to fix the dapper drake issue with vncserver?
[02:11] <ArrenLex> mog: what issue is this now?
[02:11] <krazykit> mog: there's an issue?
[02:11] <chamo> dodger: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#22
[02:11] <mog> it cant find the font
[02:11] <mog> directory
[02:11] <stuh84> right tatty byes time
[02:11] <mog> on my machine
[02:11] <ArrenLex> !enter
[02:11] <chamo> pourtant j'ai checker plusieurs fois la config de scite, mais rien vu sur utf8 cookie
[02:11] <mog> i just did an apt-get update upgrade
[02:11] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:11] <hesperus> oh, this is annoying... i fixed menu.lst (removed the splash) and every time the kernel is upgraded, apt-get messes my conf and splash comes back! how can i avoid that "automagical" wizardry?
[02:12] <ArrenLex> hesperus: I told you how to do it properly.
[02:12] <hesperus> ArrenLex: i commented the splash word, what should i do?
[02:12] <zoredache> hesperus: you could comment out the preinst and postinst hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf
[02:12] <ArrenLex> (17:58:35) ArrenLex: hesperus: find the option where it says whether to add splash to the entries and disable it. Then run grub-update.
[02:12] <Lam_> NetworkManager or KWifiManager?
[02:13] <dodger> chamo: never heard that before. what are you editing your file with?
[02:13] <hesperus> ArrenLex: sudo: grub-update: command not found
[02:13] <ArrenLex> hesperus: pastebin your menu.lst
[02:13] <ArrenLex> hesperus: update-grub.
[02:13] <ArrenLex> hes: apparently I'm lysdexic.
[02:13] <mog> krazykit, or ArrenLex anyy ideas?
[02:14] <mog> or is vncserver brokein dapper?
[02:14] <ArrenLex> mog: can you try running 'vncserver' and then pastebin the actual error message?
[02:14] <mog> yes i am
[02:14] <B|Charm> got a question for you all
[02:14] <ArrenLex> mog: you are what?
[02:14] <ArrenLex> !ask
[02:14] <jpzor> anybody having problems with TV tuner cards in dapper?
[02:14] <hesperus> ArrenLex: i did it. it messed my conf again.. :/
[02:14] <chalcedony> how do i get a flash player that works with ubuntu dapper
[02:14] <chalcedony> and if there is one, what might it be called?
[02:14] <ArrenLex> hesperus: pastebin your menu.lst
[02:14] <mog> could not open default font 'fixed'
[02:14] <krazykit> mog: it's that the fonts are in a different place than expected.  i recall there being some configuration options...
[02:14] <B|Charm> I have a usb mouse, how would I get that recognized?
[02:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:14] <hesperus> ok
[02:14] <mog> is the error
[02:14] <ArrenLex> chal: from adobe.com, and it's called "flash player".
[02:15] <ArrenLex> mog: are you able to start X?
[02:15] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: gee ty :) i could have guessed :)
[02:15] <mog> yes
[02:15] <mog> and the vncserver in gnome works
[02:15] <dougsko> **** anyone who wants to play a quiz in #ubuntu-trivia is welcome.
[02:15] <ArrenLex> B|Charm: are you experiencing problems? I never had any problems with my USB mice.
[02:15] <FoodStampz> Can someone help me with a problem im having with ubuntu @ a 7800GT PCIE
[02:16] <hesperus> ArrenLex: http://pastebin.ca/182423
[02:16] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, there is a package in the multiverse repository by the name of flashplugin-nonfree
[02:16] <B|Charm> ArrenLex: Well, it just doesn't recognize
[02:16] <jpzor> foodstampz, whats the issue
[02:16] <B|Charm> ArrenLex: Wait thats a lie, it will recognize as in able to right click
[02:16] <simtower> lollerskates
[02:16] <FoodStampz> i installed ubuntu and after it starts up and I think it's getting ready to load the gui
[02:16] <Lam_> !wifi
[02:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:16] <B|Charm> ArrenLex: but won't move when I move
[02:16] <FoodStampz> i get snow
[02:16] <FoodStampz> i have pictures if you want to see them
[02:16] <jpzor> sure
[02:16] <jpzor> send them over
[02:17] <kamui> I got a wierd error when doing an apt-get remove, I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"
[02:17] <kamui> ** (process:5956): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[02:17] <kamui> what does that mean?
[02:17] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: wow ok :)
[02:17] <ArrenLex> hesperus: I'm not sure about this, because this same line is in my own menu.lst and it still doesn't make splash, but try changing line 65 to remove splash.
[02:17] <mog> are their files i need to symlink to get it to work, can you test it ArrenLex or anyone for that matter is vncserver package just broken
[02:17] <hayden> !grub
[02:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:17] <FoodStampz> jpzor ygpm
[02:18] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, there is an even better version of it in the backports-multiverse repository
[02:18] <ArrenLex> hesperus: and I can't do math either. 85.
[02:18] <jpzor> foodstampz, kk
[02:18] <FoodStampz> nm i see I cant do that
[02:18] <hesperus> ArrenLex: i know how to remove it, but every time the kernel will be upgraded, the conf will be messed again... i want to avoid that
[02:18] <FoodStampz> ill just post the link here
[02:18] <FoodStampz> http://www.futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20153
[02:18] <jpzor> kk
[02:18] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, it is only flash player 7 tho... flash 9 is currently being worked on for linux
[02:19] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: multiserv repository? that'd be synaptic package manager, or ad/remove ?
[02:19] <zoredache> hesperus: you could comment out the preinst and postinst hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf... that is what the kernel scripts used to figure out how to update the bootloader
[02:19] <jpzor> foodstampz, did you install the nvidia-glx
[02:19] <ArrenLex> hesperus: the options for the "Debian Automagic Kernels List" are created based on the default options you specify above. Line 85 is part of those default options. So if you remove splash from line 85, it SHOULD stop adding splash to the kernel lines when it generates them.
[02:19] <FoodStampz> i just did the normal install
[02:19] <jpzor> i had the same issues
[02:19] <FoodStampz> i didnt even get to gnome
[02:19] <jpzor> ok, i can help :-)
[02:19] <thinkweird> is here anyone using ubuntu on a thinkpad t43?
[02:19] <FoodStampz> thank god
[02:19] <FoodStampz> :D
[02:19] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, system > administration > software properties
[02:19] <thinkweird> what about the hardware support?
[02:19] <B|Charm> thinkweird: I am
[02:20] <supermiguel> edit "builddefs.h" to handle compile-time settings (tcp_wrappers build,
[02:20] <supermiguel> etc).
[02:20] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, try and enable multiverse and backports multiverse
[02:20] <supermiguel> what is that mean
[02:20] <thinkweird> b|charm: does it has fan control? what hardware is not supported?
[02:20] <chamo> dodger : SCITE
[02:20] <jpzor> foodstampz, i opened a new window to talk to u in
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Yes.
[02:20] <FoodStampz> ok
[02:20] <FoodStampz> i had one but the system tells me
[02:20] <TracerBullet> libtiff4-dev: Depends: libtiff4 (=3.7.4-1ubuntu3) but 3.7.4-1ubuntu3.2 is to be installed
[02:20] <B|Charm> thinkweird: yes it has fan control
[02:20] <FoodStampz> its not allowed cuz of spam
[02:20] <chalcedony> ty working at it now DarkMageZ :)
[02:20] <B|Charm> thinkweird: as for hardware supported you should ask me what hardware you want
[02:21] <jpzor> kk
[02:21] <TracerBullet> any idea how to overcome the above dependency problem ?
[02:21] <B|Charm> thinkweird: and I could say yes or no
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Only thing that wasn't ootb for me was the modem, which works with the linuxant driver ($20).
[02:21] <supermiguel> edit "builddefs.h" to handle compile-time settings (tcp_wrappers build,etc).
[02:21] <supermiguel> what is that
[02:21] <FoodStampz> aol icq msn or yahoo?
[02:21] <thinkweird> I don't need modem anyway.
[02:21] <jpzor> alirght, you need to login as root,
[02:21] <B|Charm> thinkweird: good to go then
[02:21] <FoodStampz> ok
[02:21] <jpzor> or do this:
[02:21] <jpzor> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:21] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, B|Charm I have firegl v3200 ati
[02:21] <thinkweird> does it supported?
[02:21] <anto9us> *ding dong* This is a public announcement. A quiz is now starting in #ubuntu-trivia. Come join us to exercise your ubuntu brain muscle or even learn from the posers. Be there or be square. Thank you for your co-operation. *dong ding*
[02:21] <hesperus> ArrenLex: here's another bug. if i remove only the splash word, everything is ok. if i remove both splash and quiet, then both these arguments are passed in the kernel!
[02:22] <jpzor> sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[02:22] <thinkweird> B|Charm, haven't used linux for about half a year. got a bit rusty
[02:22] <bimberi> mog: 'cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11'  then  'sudo ln -s /usr/share/X11/fonts fonts'
[02:22] <jpzor> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:22] <B|Charm> thinkweird: haha not a problem, just got in the game myself
[02:22] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, your machine is a t43 as well?
[02:22] <B|Charm> thinkweird: and yes it does
[02:22] <ArrenLex> hesperus: I haven't messed with it very much. I don't know why it does that. Maybe the evil kernel-option-passing gnomes are doing it.
[02:22] <jpzor> replace "nv" with "nvidia"
[02:22] <thinkweird> what game? B|Charm
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: I'm not sure, since I have the ati m x300, but there are charts on the wiki you could check.  You'll be able to get a successful startup I'm sure, it's just a question of what you need to do and if you can get good acceleration.
[02:23] <B|Charm> thinkweird: the linux game ;)
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Yeah, T43 2668-49U
[02:23] <jpzor> then do: nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:23] <lcohen> Hi all, I have kitchensync-opensync but when i setup my syncml, it never connects, always stuck at ready...
[02:23] <B|Charm> tonyyarusso: Team ThinkPad t43 WOOT
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> hehe
[02:23] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, B|Charm  do you guys feel fan is bit loud?
[02:24] <B|Charm> thinkweird: all the time
[02:24] <thinkweird> in a quet room and it just hmming on, non-stopping.
[02:24] <hesperus> ArrenLex: ok, i've put a space and now it seems ok =)
[02:24] <thinkweird> B|Charm, it is on all the time?
[02:24] <B|Charm> thinkweird: oh mine only runs when needed
[02:24] <B|Charm> thinkweird: nope
[02:24] <ArrenLex> hesperus: spaces are the saviour of us all. Hail!
[02:24] <thinkweird> B|Charm, mine is on all the time.
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: It varies.  Sometimes it seems on the high end, but so is my temp, so it prolly should be.
[02:24] <jpzor> if it doesn't work after reboot,  let me know, cuz i will get you going after that
[02:24] <FoodStampz> should i do that from the safemode prompt?
[02:25] <jpzor> as long as you are root running those commands
[02:25] <FoodStampz> ok
[02:25] <FoodStampz> alright im gunna go try it
[02:25] <FoodStampz> brb
[02:25] <jpzor> it shouldn't matter
[02:25] <jpzor> kk
[02:25] <thinkweird> B|Charm, tonyyarusso   you know, mine is on all the time and I am hesitating of return this machine.
[02:25] <FoodStampz> thanks
[02:25] <thinkweird> B|Charm, tonyyarusso  so your fans are not on all the time?
[02:25] <B|Charm> thinkweird: nah don't return it, you can control when it runs
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Well, I think they're probably on all the time, but they aren't always at max speed.
[02:26] <thinkweird> B|Charm, I can indeed but I think why ibm does not make it better.
[02:26] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, don't you feel that it is irritating?
[02:26] <B|Charm> thinkweird: haha, IBM has had some issues these past few years with things that should be simple
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: There are some nifty scripts at the ThinkWiki for fan control, although I haven't gotten around to trying them yet.
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Only mildly, and certain less so than the latest Windows virus.
[02:26] <kitche> B|Charm: anyways IBM only does servers now and have been for a long time
[02:27] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, so surprised you can take it when the fan is on all the time.
[02:27] <thinkweird> B|Charm, how long have you got your t43?
[02:27] <B|Charm> thinkweird: mmmm about 4 months
[02:27] <B|Charm> thinkweird: before I had a t42
[02:28] <thinkweird> B|Charm, I have another question about the keyboard: my left ctrl key alreay got a little squeaky.
[02:28] <thinkweird> and not so responsive after I got it for only five days.
[02:28] <B|Charm> thinkweird: interesting, what did you spill on it?
[02:29] <dragonflyseven> Sorry, quick question. I just started IRCing, and I was wondering if there were any less hectic, less specialized rooms anyone could recomend.
[02:29] <thinkweird> B|Charm, tonyyarusso honestly, I don't think thinkpad is as good as it is rumored. actually I am a little disappointed
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Anything besides the fan?
[02:29] <B|Charm> thinkweird: like any other laptop it will have it's downfalls however I really do enjoy the laptop
[02:30] <B|Charm> thinkweird: and i'm a picky boy
[02:30] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, no.
[02:30] <thinkweird> just the fan. I really need it to be quiet.
[02:30] <thinkweird> B|Charm, are you running any fan control scripts?
[02:31] <B|Charm> thinkweird: I am not, but I will find you the link to them
[02:31] <krazykit> dragonflyseven: for what?  there are zillions of channels on tons of networks.
[02:31] <B|Charm> thinkweird: give me a second, what is your OS?
[02:31] <Skrot> Hi. Is there a way to turn alsa off (and remove snd_ modules) in ubuntu?
[02:31] <Bird> How do I run gst-register?
[02:31] <kitche> dragonflyseven: it all depends what your looking for really
[02:31] <krazykit> Skrot: you could just unload the alsa modules and add them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:31] <thinkweird> B|Charm, windows
[02:31] <B|Charm> ok let me check it out for you
[02:31] <dragonflyseven> Good point. Any site listing channels by topic?
[02:32] <B|Charm> give me a few, I need a smoke
[02:32] <thinkweird> B|Charm, I know there is a program that controls fan speed.
[02:32] <Skrot> krazykit: I don't want to do that. I want to remove them and reprobe them with different arguments.. trying to figure out surround sound :)
[02:32] <Bird> Did anyone here hear how Hulk Hogan just died?
[02:32] <thinkweird> B|Charm, but I guess I am more picky than you. since I believe ibm should have done it.
[02:32] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, how long have you kept your thinkpad?
[02:33] <krazykit> Skrot: oh, then just rmmod the modules.  lsmod will list them, and you can grep the snd_ modules
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Got it in June of last year.
[02:33] <kitche> thinkweird: why are you calling lenvo ibm? they are two seperate companies
[02:33] <Skrot> krazykit: Problem is; the snd_ modules are in use, so it won't let me rmmod them
[02:33] <thinkweird> kitche, I know. but I think ibm is a better brand. btw, I am chinese
[02:33] <thinkweird> :)
[02:33] <Skrot> krazykit: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use. :>
[02:33] <krazykit> Skrot: rmmod -f
[02:34] <thinkweird> kitche, I don't trust local brands.
[02:34] <krazykit> Skrot: or do lsof on all the /dev nodes that have to do with sound and kill the processes using them
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Well, I also think IBM is a better brand, so maybe the fact that they're Lenovo is part of our problem?
[02:34] <bimberi> dragonflyseven: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist
[02:34] <kitche> thinkweird: well lenvo been making ibm laptops for about 5 years now in reality
[02:34] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, no, t43 is still ibm. I like this machine before I noticed the noisy fan.
[02:34] <xMorphix> kitche: THAT was the name of them
[02:35] <thinkweird> thinkweird, I hate to tweak a brand new laptop just to make it work quitely.
[02:35] <dragonflyseven> bimberi: thank you.
[02:35] <FoodStampz> exit
[02:35] <chalcedony> what's Xfmedia? it says Lightweight media player below it, is that one i want?
[02:35] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, you stay in a noisy environment?
[02:35] <bimberi> dragonflyseven: yw :)
[02:35] <xMorphix> thinkweird: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_fan_noise
[02:36] <xMorphix> thinkweird: now let me see if they have something for you window users
[02:36] <thinkweird> xMorphix, thanks.
[02:36] <Thuryn> yo
[02:36] <gopss> Hi
[02:36] <aswp> sup
[02:36] <ziro01> Hello
[02:36] <thinkweird> xMorphix, yes.
[02:36] <A-L-P-H-A> Hi, how stop X and get straight to the terminal?  I want to install new video drivers, as the current nvidia drivers are causing an issue.
[02:36] <Thuryn> secret
[02:36] <gopss> that's a secret
[02:36] <thinkweird> xMorphix, I was a debian user.
[02:36] <jpzor> foodstampz, any luck?
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Not particularly.  My room and uni lectures.  The T43 is actually manufactured by Lenovo now though, they're just allowed to use the IBM branding on it - IBM does not manufacture them even though they have the logo.
[02:37] <krazykit> A-L-P-H-A: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:37] <chalcedony> wb FoodStampz
[02:37] <FoodStampz> thanks
[02:37] <profoX`> is it just me or does the fglrx driver not allow direct rendering in 2 separate X servers ?
[02:37] <FoodStampz> jpzor, i got it working now thanks to you :)
[02:37] <FoodStampz> now I have another question
[02:37] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, don't you think it is ridiculous that other brands does not have fan running all the while and all the pad fans still like thinkpads, noisy
[02:37] <jpzor> foodstampz, thats great!
[02:37] <krazykit> profoX`: that's how it is.  ATI drivers are junk.
[02:37] <jpzor> whats your next q
[02:37] <aswp> don't know
[02:37] <FoodStampz> 60hz refresh = death
[02:38] <ziro01> dunno
[02:38] <FoodStampz> i tried to turn it up but it wont go
[02:38] <mdkaneda> alright, i'm in Ubuntu's graphical LiveCD.. i need to mount my root partition with read/write permissions located at /dev/hdb2   how do i do so within this live cd so i can figure out why its not booting??!?
[02:38] <jpzor> what monitor do you have
[02:38] <FoodStampz> kds xflat
[02:38] <profoX`> krazykit: are you sure about that? that fglrx doesnt support 2 X servers running direct rendering?
[02:38] <krazykit> profoX`: positive.
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> mdkaneda, use the mount command
[02:38] <profoX`> krazykit: wow.. thats... erm.. extremely junky
[02:38] <xMorphix> thinkweird: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?p=158780&sid=f35af9a2972edda7460c433ffa75e75e
[02:38] <profoX`> :/
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/
[02:38] <FoodStampz> it supports 85hz @ 1024x768
[02:38] <FoodStampz> drive issue
[02:38] <FoodStampz> ?
[02:39] <simtower> anyone can use my computer with ubuntu at work?
[02:39] <mdkaneda> admiral: thanx
[02:39] <xMorphix> thinkweird: and there are some other forums with that, that will tell you how to drop it down and off
[02:39] <jpzor> foodstampz, you need to edit your xorg.conf file again
[02:39] <thinkweird> xMorphix, you are using a thinkpad as well?
[02:39] <profoX`> krazykit: so how am i supposed to play my 3D games now without accelerated Xnest or seperate X server, now I run XGL by default :/
[02:39] <FoodStampz> joy!
[02:39] <jpzor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:39] <chalcedony> did DarkMageZ go off? i found something .. got a question again: what's Xfmedia? it says Lightweight media player below it, is that one i want?
[02:39] <xMorphix> thinkweird: I am charm
[02:39] <profoX`> worked fine on my nvidia box
[02:39] <Victorssss> when me go install one program on my linux ubuntu happened this text "you dont have support for tcl.. you need install the tcltls for this" how do i this?
[02:39] <thinkweird> charm?
[02:39] <krazykit> profoX`: you go and buy an nvidia card
[02:39] <xMorphix> thinkweird: and yes
[02:39] <jpzor> foodstampz, gimme one sec
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Every brand will have its issues, and if I have to have one, the fan is pretty minor.
[02:39] <thinkweird> xMorphix, ? what do  you mean by charm?
[02:39] <FoodStampz> ok
[02:39] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, for flashplayer you want to install the flashplugin-nonfree package :P
[02:39] <xMorphix> thinkweird: I just changed my nickname
[02:40] <xMorphix> thinkweird: ;)
[02:40] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: non-free ?
[02:40] <profoX`> krazykit: its a laptop......
[02:40] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, tell me more about the goodies of thinkpad. cause this is my first laptop and I have no way to compare
[02:40] <Victorssss> when me go install one program on my linux ubuntu happened this text "you dont have support for tcl.. you need install the tcltls for this" how do i this? everyone can me help?
[02:40] <profoX`> thinkweird: the drivebay can be pulled out :P
[02:40] <thinkweird> xMorphix, ok. morphix, also debian flavored. thanks
[02:40] <profoX`> but you need support for that, a kernel module
[02:40] <ablyss> anyone know what this means Sep 25 20:40:19 localhost kernel: [247774.765006]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[02:40] <profoX`> see thinkwiki :)
[02:40] <profoX`> www.thinkwiki.org interesting site thinkweird
[02:40] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, unfortunantly... adobe doesn't give us the sourcecode to the flashplayer... it's free but it's not opensource. i suppose the naming is confusing
[02:40] <simtower> thinkwiki is the best
[02:41] <simtower> #ubuntu-laptop FTW
[02:41] <krazykit> profoX`: you're out of luck then until the xorg drivers either support your card (9600 and below now, i think) or until ATI decides to release drivers that aren't junk.
[02:41] <thinkweird> profoX`, and why should I pull out drive bay?
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Victorssss, open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install tcltls
[02:41] <Victorssss> everyone help me?
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Well, I had someone sit on mine and it still works, for one.
[02:41] <profoX`> thinkweird: i dont know.. just because you CAN !
[02:41] <wanted> How can i devide/duplicate server x in two displays???
[02:41] <jpzor> foodstampz
[02:41] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: phew :) ty scared me!
[02:41] <FoodStampz> yeayh
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Victorssss, open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install tcltls"
[02:41] <jpzor> foodstampz, follow this link: it should get you started on fixing it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[02:42] <jpzor> good luck!!!
[02:42] <jpzor> :-D
[02:42] <profoX`> thinkweird: just because you can hotswap (switch) the drive bay with another device on the fly while the os is running
[02:42] <thinkweird> thinkweird, ok. that's good.
[02:42] <FoodStampz> thanks for all the help man :D
[02:42] <simtower> !laptop
[02:42] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:42] <profoX`> thinkweird: very solid notebooks
[02:42] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, that's good.
[02:42] <jpzor> np bro
[02:42] <profoX`> thinkweird: and erm.. good linux support
[02:42] <jpzor> have fun!
[02:42] <profoX`> they look ugly though imo, but thats just my opinion
[02:42] <FoodStampz> thanks
[02:42] <profoX`> and they are expensive :/
[02:42] <thinkweird> profoX`, ok. how long do you think it is gonna last? how many years?
[02:42] <thinkweird> profoX`, if I use carefully
[02:42] <mdkaneda> IS there any reason why ubuntu is looking for my root filesystem on hda2 when my /etc/fstab says / is hdb2?
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> I like the look; simple and professional.  I don't need it to be flowery, I need it to be a functional machine, so that's good.
[02:43] <Boelcke> Command Line Question: How can I read each line of a text file, but one at a time?  I know how to grep for something, but not how to go through each line...
[02:43] <jpzor> i need help with my tv tuner card: i get an error on xawtv saying DGA is not working
[02:43] <thinkweird> profoX`, you know. lenovo sells t60 with linux support 800 dollars higher than windows
[02:43] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, it would help to see your fstab...
[02:43] <Victorssss> hey Admiral_Chicago.. show this.. "cannot find the pack tcltls" what do i?
[02:43] <roberts> Hi, I'm trying to compile projectM, and it keeps telling me "make: command not found" even though I have (multiple versions of) GCC installed.
[02:43] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, for two...?
[02:44] <crimsun> roberts: build-essential, too?
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> tonnyyarusso is a robot
[02:44] <krazykit> roberts: install build-essential
[02:44] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, what kind of screen you have? what graphic card?
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Sweetest keyboard I've had the pleasure of typing on.
[02:44] <roberts> Thanks!
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: 14.1", 1024x768 default res, ATI Radeon Mobility X300.
[02:44] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, does it make some sounds when you type or it is just silent?
[02:44] <Victorssss> hey Admiral_Chicago.. show this.. "cannot find the pack tcltls" what do i? do you know?
[02:45] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, mine makes some sounds when typing.
[02:45] <bimberi> Boelcke: 'less file' and use the Enter key to show one line at a time
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Victorssss, hold on
[02:45] <zoredache> Boelcke: one fairly common way is with a for command that is somewhat like  for line in `cat filename`
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Depends how I hit the keys.  It's not perfectly silent, but it's darn quiet, and very ergonomic.
[02:45] <Stix09> hey, im trying to install from the live cd, and while its booting everything goes fine until it trys to start the "Enterprise Volume Managment System", at which point it displays the error "Buffer I/O errer of device dm-1 logical block 3215852"
[02:45] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, do you think it really makes a difference between resolutions?  xgv or sxgv?
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> you have to enable universe
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo > Victorssss
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: No idea
[02:46] <Stix09> and then it keeps on repeating this and another error over and over
[02:46] <Boelcke> bimberi, I'm trying to write a script that does some things with each line of the file.  So, it seems like I'd want to get a line, then go execute other commands, and then get the next line.
[02:46] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, you like your screen?
[02:46] <supermiguel> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Yeah.
[02:46] <supermiguel> there is any way to fiz that
[02:46] <supermiguel> fix*
[02:46] <grouchytim> Stix09:  did you check the volume before the install?
[02:46] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, did you watch some movies on it? how is it like?
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: I also like having the dual tracking devices.
[02:46] <Stix09> im not trying to install anything im just trying to boot the live cd
[02:46] <supermiguel> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:46] <Flannel> thinkweird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Video_Standards.PNG  decide for yourself ;)
[02:47] <grouchytim> check the cd     it probably won't pass check sum
[02:47] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, the reason I ask is that mine is 15" uxga and the font is a bit small.
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Yeah, I've watched some, worked fine.  It's no big screen plasma TV, but it's fully functional for a group of college kids to watch something.
[02:47] <Victorssss> everyone help me?
[02:47] <Stix09> it passed fine
[02:47] <bimberi> Boelcke: ah, i'd use Python for that
[02:47] <Stix09> and its the 3rd cd ive burned with the same problem
[02:47] <grouchytim> hmmm
[02:47] <Lam_> NetworkManager applet or KWifiManager?
[02:47] <bimberi> Boelcke: but a bash script would be possible too
[02:47] <Stix09> what is enterprise volume managment system and can i disable it while booting the live cd
[02:47] <thinkweird> Flannel, already got one. but think I just spent more since I can settle with 1024x768
[02:48] <Boelcke> bimberi, Ah.  I'm just working on figuring out how to use bash, and I've been thinking that I'd need to learn Python or Perl at some point.  I was hoping to get by on this task with just bash...
[02:48] <simtower> ur may be wrong thinkweird
[02:48] <thinkweird> simplydazed, why
[02:48] <simtower> it might not be quite that simple... you tend to need more
[02:49] <bimberi> Boelcke: yes bash can do it, but i don't know how off the top of my head :)
[02:49] <mdkaneda> boelcke: can i send u my fstab so u can help me w/ my dilemma? if ur not too busy. seems like such a simple issue, but i'm pullin my hair out
[02:49] <simtower> u know?
[02:49] <thinkweird> simtower, you mean more screen resolution? or I am too paranoid with my laptop?
[02:49] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, what is  your previous laptop?
[02:49] <simtower> yes thinkweird more resolution
[02:49] <simtower> i have 1024x768 but its not enough
[02:49] <Boelcke> All, is there a simple place mdkaneda can paste fstab?  I thought there was a site for that...
[02:49] <krazykit> Boelcke: if you want to edit text on each line, maybe check out sed
[02:49] <Flannel> !paste
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:50] <Stix09> i also get the error "[17179670.82000]  ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI sk/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04" that also repeats and some of the numbers change, anyone know how to fix this
[02:50] <thinkweird> simtower, have you got glx working? I think it is really cool.
[02:50] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, you have glx working?
[02:50] <simtower> you mean compiz/xgl?
[02:50] <twopoint0_> when i try to change the theme, it tells me that it needs tar.gz, however, when i give it the theme i want to apply, it tells me the file format is not valid
[02:50] <Stix09> or can i simply disable EVMS from starting in the live cd with a boot option?
[02:50] <thinkweird> simtower, yes
[02:50] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: i've got webspace. hold on. lol
[02:50] <Boelcke> krazykit, I've been checking out sed and awk.  I figured out an awk command to do the interesting/complicated part, and now I'm struggling with the simple part!
[02:50] <supermiguel> does
[02:50] <simtower> yes it works on my laptop but i keep it turned off
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: A Compaq from 1996 and a Toshiba Satellite from 1993/4.
[02:51] <supermiguel> any one know how to work with gproftpd
[02:51] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Haven't tried any of the fancy stuff yet, but soon.
[02:51] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, and know you are in college. how lucky you are to be able to have two laptops boefore enter university.
[02:51] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, you can also go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:52] <zkorpio> hi everybody
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Those ones were the hand-me-downs from my parents when they bought new ones ;)
[02:52] <thinkweird> simtower, why?
[02:52] <thinkweird> simtower, it is so cool
[02:52] <simtower> it seem like a little too much performance hit for everyday use
[02:52] <zkorpio> anyone knows if ubuntu has a lot of programs for 64bits?
[02:52] <twopoint0_> why does it tell me the theme i want to load is an invalid file format if it's in tar.gz format
[02:52] <simtower> i only have 1.6ghz
[02:52] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, I see.
[02:52] <simtower> and a crappy radeon
[02:52] <thinkweird> simtower, radeon what?
[02:52] <thinkweird> simtower, which series?
[02:53] <thinkweird> profoX`, you were xMorphix?
[02:53] <writingdesk> zkorpio: Yeah, but no flash, and no wine ( unless chroot in 32 bit)
[02:53] <simtower> radeon 9000 mobility
[02:53] <simtower> it also get very hot when xgl is on
[02:53] <Stix09> anybody know how to boot the live cd if EVMS give you a translated ATA error while loading?
[02:53] <mick> which program would you reccomend for torrents? i tried azureas, but it hogs cpu like crazy
[02:53] <thinkweird> simtower, which brand you have , I mean your laptop
[02:53] <simtower> i put some better cooling putty on it but didn't help much
[02:54] <simtower> ibm thinkpad
[02:54] <simtower> r51
[02:54] <thinkweird> simtower, so strange. so many linuxers use thinkpads.
[02:54] <AlReece45> I'm having trouble getting my sound to work.
[02:54] <simtower> it is a very nice laptop... except for the screen which is pretty crappy
[02:54] <zkorpio> writingdesk: do you know if there is any distro with fully support 64 bits (non chroot32)
[02:54] <thinkweird> simtower, and developed such a brand loyalty to it. even though it has many problems
[02:55] <thinkweird> simtower, why crappy? dark?
[02:55] <krazykit> zkorpio: they're all the same in that regard.
[02:55] <thinkweird> simtower, define nice?
[02:55] <simtower> no, it is bright, but there is a huge gamma shift when you change the vertical viewing angle by only 10 degrees
[02:55] <simtower> so, a solid black screen looks more like a sublte gradient
[02:55] <simtower> it is very annoying
[02:55] <zkorpio> krazykit i try centos but i can not get running monodevelop and another
[02:56] <mdkaneda> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24841     -- there's my fstab (think thats the link) anyways, if someone could tell me whats wrong w/ this. its not loading my root from hdb2, its looking at hda2 for some reason
[02:56] <thinkweird> simtower, so it is gamma. you mean contrast is not so good.
[02:56] <krazykit> zkorpio: it doesn't matter what you run.  all the distros have the same 64-bit support
[02:56] <thinkweird> simtower, why do you need to change gamma? for view angles?
[02:56] <simtower> no, contrast is fine it is just variable depending on the vertical angle of the display
[02:56] <robert_> how do I build debian packages from source?
[02:56] <simtower> if you tilt it up or down the gamma changes dramatically
[02:56] <thinkweird> simtower, ok. I see.
[02:56] <hesperus> why is that? -> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[02:57] <zkorpio> krazykit: i am thinking to try ubuntu or kubuntu but i am not sure if there are problems with 64bits
[02:57] <thinkweird> simtower, why not just tip the screen?
[02:57] <samuel> is there an xwinwrap equivalent for aiglx?
[02:57] <simtower> all lcd screens have that problem but this one is pretty bad
[02:57] <hesperus> the closed modules get lost on reboot! why tmpfs?
[02:57] <krazykit> zkorpio: like i said, you'll see the same 64-bit issues across all distros.
[02:57] <thinkweird> simtower, why not tip the screen instead?
[02:57] <thinkweird> simtower, is glx hard to implement?
[02:57] <thinkweird> simtower, your cards are supported but I don't think mine is supported.
[02:57] <simtower> it doesn't matter how you tip the screen, it is still different between the top and the bottom
[02:58] <simtower> the top is always lighter than the bottom
[02:58] <simtower> even if they are the same color
[02:58] <Lam_> anyone else have a broadcom card and notice that the NetworkManager doesn't show strength indicators for networks nearby?
[02:58] <thinkweird> simtower, I see. I have a flexview and there should ben a problem.
[02:58] <krazykit> Lam_: known bug.  the broadcom drivers are still under heavy development
[02:58] <kyja> I have 2 usb sticks that are plugged in all the time and dont always mount on startup. I have to mount manualy with sudo. what is up with that?
[02:58] <simtower> kyja, edit your fstab
[02:59] <kyja> ok
[02:59] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: did u take a look at my fstab yet?
[02:59] <Lam_> krazykit: ok good. just checking
[02:59] <simtower> sometime the automounter not work so good
[02:59] <Boelcke> Ah, I found my (how to print a line in bash) solution.  sed '52q;d' file.txt
[02:59] <kyja> !fstab
[02:59] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[02:59] <thinkweird> simtower, on thinkpad?
[02:59] <hesperus> can someone enlighten me why the closed modules get installed on tmpfs (ram)??
[02:59] <simtower> thinkweird, huh?
[02:59] <Nrbelex> Where can I find support for the VNC in Ubuntu?
[02:59] <thinkweird> simtower, automount...
[02:59] <thinkweird> simtower, I see . another person.
[03:00] <simtower> yes kyja had problem with usb sticks
[03:00] <variant> anyone know what package xfce-bglist-editor is part of?
[03:00] <supermiguel> does any one know how to make an ftp server?
[03:00] <hesperus> this is mind boggling!
[03:00] <simtower> supermiguel, you can run a ftp server on ubuntu
[03:00] <variant> supermiguel: apt-get install gproftp
[03:00] <Nrbelex> anyone - VNC?
[03:00] <variant> supermiguel: its easy
[03:00] <somethingelse> hi
[03:01] <hesperus> anyone ???
[03:01] <supermiguel> gproftpd?
[03:01] <variant> supermiguel: apt-get install gproftpd
[03:01] <variant> supermiguel: yeah
[03:01] <simtower> hesperus, ?
[03:01] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, what message, exactly, are you getting about it looking for root on hda2?
 can someone enlighten me why the closed modules get installed on tmpfs (ram)??
[03:01] <supermiguel> i dont know how to use it :(
[03:01] <somethingelse> is it possible to change an ethernet device name?  for example: eth4 to eth0 ?
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> Nrbelex: You mean just to enable it?
[03:01] <variant> supermiguel: then run it.. its quite obvious how to set up
 why is that? -> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[03:01] <hesperus> thus i lose my modules on reboot!
[03:01] <Boelcke> Since you don't even HAVE an hda2 in your fstab, I can see why you're frustrated!
[03:01] <supermiguel> when i click on online it doesnt start :(
[03:02] <variant> supermiguel: you sure abou thtat?
[03:02] <supermiguel> yep
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> Nrbelex: System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[03:02] <variant> supermiguel: run /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[03:02] <hesperus> simplydazed: why is that?
[03:02] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: it sits at mounting root file system, then says "waiting for root file system" if i let it sit long enough it will throw me to a bash prompt and it says something about there there being no hda2
[03:02] <supermiguel> i mean do i have to configure the server
[03:02] <Nrbelex> tonyyarusso, no, I get either the message "Error while waiting for server message" or "ReadExact: Socket error while reading" 20 seconds after I get on every single time
[03:02] <hesperus> simtower*
[03:02] <ztg> ubuntu-server keeps locking up any ideas?
[03:02] <variant> supermiguel: yeah, its fairly simple point and click interface
[03:02] <Nrbelex> It's the most aggravating thing ever
[03:02] <simtower> hello hesperus, i am not sure, maybe you can change it to an on disk location
[03:02] <variant> supermiguel: add a user, make it aware of a directory to be shared out on ftp
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> Nrbelex: Ah, okay.  Sorry, I'm only good with VNC when it works it seems.
[03:02] <variant> supermiguel: and start it
[03:03] <edward_> can someone help me install an ATI card?
[03:03] <wanted> How can i devide/duplicate server x in two displays???
[03:03] <supermiguel> variant do you have msn or something that you can help me with it
[03:03] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, and you're sure you've got your home in hdb2?  Is there an hda2?
[03:03] <Nrbelex> Does anybody know a good thread for VNC help?
[03:03] <krazykit> ztg: no, not without more information than "it's broke"
[03:03] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: see, it used to be hda2, moved my drive to hdb2 and put a new HD in HDA1 and put windows on it. i got grub loaded in HDA's MBR no problem, it loads windows and loads ubuntu, but now ubuntu wont mount my filesystem
[03:03] <hesperus> simtower: apparently i can, the modules get stored in ram! this is non-sense
[03:03] <edward_> the driver is  insallled but when I type lsmod | grep fglrx in the teminalw i get nothing back
[03:03] <variant> supermiguel: sorry, i am at work and dont really have time
[03:03] <hesperus> i cant
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> wanted: Could you rephrase that?  I'm not sure we understand what you mean.
[03:03] <variant> supermiguel: if you wanna make a donation to me with paypal i can help you. or even do it for you :)
[03:04] <simtower> comon this no #help4hire
[03:04] <bimberi> mdkaneda: you also need to check the lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst which will also be referring to hda (as 'hda' and as 'hd0')
[03:04] <zoredache> mdkaneda: is the root filesystem argument in your menu.lst correct?
[03:04] <mdkaneda> bimberi: grub is fine, it loads ubuntu, gets stuck where it loads up
[03:04] <ztg> krazykit, the box locks up, i've run memtest86+ and it came back without errors, nothing obvious in syslog
[03:05] <bimberi> mdkaneda: so you have checked that file? hmm
[03:05] <mdkaneda> zoredache: yes as far as i know its correct. i changed all the hd0's to hd1's and added a windows entry to hd0...
[03:05] <krazykit> ztg: dunno then.
[03:05] <lostboyz> hi how do i delete unecessary package libs from my system?
[03:05] <bimberi> mdkaneda: ah, nvm :)
[03:05] <lostboyz> and how do i check to see if packages are confliciting with each other?
[03:06] <supermiguel> miguel-desktop - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket
[03:06] <supermiguel> miguel-desktop - (Running from command line? Use `ServerType standalone' in config file!)
[03:06] <zoredache> lostboyz: debfoster is nice
[03:06] <simtower> miguel
[03:06] <hesperus> is anyone using nvidia.ko + restricted modules?
[03:06] <supermiguel> i get that error when i try to start it
[03:06] <chronoAZ> whats the best way of getting grub back after installing windows?
[03:06] <lostboyz> ok thank you
[03:06] <lostboyz> zoredache
[03:07] <twopoint0_> can someone tell me why i am being told 'incorrect file format' when i try to load a them
[03:07] <alex222> any do i get the latest version of gnome baker (0.6)
[03:07] <alex222> The SPM only shows 0.5
[03:07] <mdkaneda> ChronoAZ: Super Grub Disc (if u have a cd burner)
[03:07] <krazykit> chronoAZ: load the liveCD, chroot into your system and run grub-install
[03:07] <variant> supermiguel: sorry mate, would like to help you but i really dont have time :( good luck with it
[03:07] <mdkaneda> super grub disc is easier =) heh
[03:07] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, this is going to sound stupid, but, uh, I don't have a /boot in my fstab.
[03:07] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: how to tell if the flashplugin-nonfree package installed correctly?
[03:07] <lostboyz> are there any others besides debfoster?
[03:07] <chalcedony> or anyone?
[03:07] <ztg> is there anyway to determin if a system lockup is hardware or software based?
[03:08] <Xenguy> lostboyz: deborphan
[03:08] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: i made a seperate /boot partition to mount to /boot, figured that'd be safer
[03:08] <supermiguel> now when i try to access to my web page it says that is no available for me
[03:08] <wanted> tonyyarusso: I have one server and one client,i have set ssh server on server and i have set Xforwarding on client but i want visualize the desktop on client and on server....
[03:08] <zoredache> lostboyz: debfoster is just basically a program that will ask you a few questions and then run dpkg/apt to remove things...
[03:08] <lostboyz> oh i see
[03:08] <abk> hey guys, SSH issue here
[03:08] <abk> I can ssh into my own machine remotely A-OK
[03:09] <killown> hey linux has games as windows?
[03:09] <abk> *sorry hit enter too soon
[03:09] <wanted> killown: yes
[03:09] <killown> Wanderer linux has age 3?
[03:09] <wanted> no no...
[03:09] <Xenguy> wanted: maybe 'x11vnc' is of interest to you?  I'm not sure I understand your question though
[03:09] <hesperus> is anyone using nvidia.ko + restricted modules?
[03:10] <wanted> killown: linux have a few games sa windows
[03:10] <variant> killown: age of empires is made by microsoft
[03:10] <chronoAZ> mdkaneda, what menu do i go to to reinstall grub on the mbr
[03:10] <abk> I can SSH into my own machine just fine. I made a new user account, though, and now he can't log in at all. I can't log in as him either. when we type ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it asks for the password but then gives a "Sorry, permission denied" error
[03:10] <mdkaneda> would there be any reason why ubuntu cares that i have a fstab_backup file that points to the wrong drives still?
[03:10] <variant> killown: therefore there iwll never be a linux compatible versoin
[03:10] <chronoAZ> mdkaneda, (using super grub disk)
[03:10] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, try and view a flash presentation with firefox :P
[03:10] <zoredache> can he login at the console abk?
[03:10] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: ok ..
[03:11] <grouchytim> abk:  check caps lock
[03:11] <Xenguy> abk: can you log in as the new user locally?
[03:11] <twopoint0_> so no one knows? o.O
[03:11] <Xenguy> abk: i.e. without ssh
[03:11] <abk> zoredache: no, just checked. there is no local login either
[03:11] <mdkaneda> ChronoAZ: theres an Advanced menu in there somewhere, or check the gnu/linux section. it'll "try" to automatically find everything and add it to the write place, or u can specify yourself (that latter seems to work better)
[03:11] <abk> I can "sudo su Username" and use his account
[03:11] <wanted> Xenguy x11vnc is ok but is impossible set the X to working in two display (example export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0 and example export DISPLAY <IP_ADDRESS>:0)
[03:11] <zoredache> well first you need to fix the local login... does he exist in the /etc/passwd file?
[03:12] <Xenguy> abk: try resetting the passwd perhaps
[03:12] <mdkaneda> write=right.. u know what i mean. lol
[03:12] <Xenguy> wanted: dunno then
[03:12] <chronoAZ> mdkaneda, thanks
[03:13] <mdkaneda> no prob =)
[03:13] <wanted> killown: linux have americans army, rail road,a clone of sim city
[03:13] <chalcedony> sigh DarkMageZ it dosen't work
[03:13] <killown> ok
[03:13] <simtower> what sim city is it call?
[03:13] <simtower> wanted?
[03:13] <abk> xenguy: I've tried deleting his acc and making a new user (same shortname) and also resetting his PW in the gui CP, do you mean something else?
[03:13] <krazykit> simtower: lincity and lincity-ng
[03:13] <simtower> thx i will intsall it
[03:13] <gbutler> Does anyone know why fonts look so ugly in Epiphany on Edgy Eft?
[03:13] <wanted> simtower: Lincity
[03:13] <wanted> ;)
[03:13] <gbutler> Also look as bad in Firefox.
[03:14] <simtower> turn on your anti-alias maybe
[03:14] <krazykit> gbutler: #ubuntu+1
[03:14] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, ok applications > accessories > terminal. then type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" and tell me what it does
[03:14] <alex222> any do i get the latest version of gnome baker (0.6)
[03:14] <alex222> The SPM only shows 0.5
[03:14] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: ok ty :)
[03:14] <Xenguy> abk: no, just thought resetting the passwd was a good place to start; obviously if you can't log into an account locally as a user it's not going to work over ssh
[03:15] <gbutler> Font rendering was great under Dapper with Epiphany and FF, now it looks horrible under Edgy. Is something missing?
[03:15] <crimsun> alex222: it will have to be backported to dapper. It only recently entered edgy.
[03:15] <grouchytim> is there a trick to making a local printer shared with windows computers on my lan?
[03:15] <simtower> sure grouchytim
[03:15] <eyequeue> gbutler, wrong channel, #ubuntu+1
[03:15] <abk> xenguy: of course. any ideas on why it wouldn't work?
[03:15] <simtower> you need to share it with samba
[03:15] <Xenguy> abk: for a different method, you could just try (as root): passwd username
[03:15] <Azuncha> nalioth is here?
[03:15] <grouchytim> <----samba stupid
[03:15] <Xenguy> abk: typically a password is being typed incorrectly
[03:15] <grouchytim> feel like helping?
[03:16] <gbutler> OK...thanks...
[03:16] <Xenguy> abk: substitute the login name for 'username' of course
[03:16] <abk> xenguy: well, I just made a new user with different short name and three-character PW to make sure I was typing it all OK
[03:16] <wols_> gbutler: samba or cups. both can do it
[03:16] <abk> still not able to log in locally.
[03:17] <Xenguy> abk: that makes no sense tho - try changing the passwd on the command-line?
[03:17] <jUggERNAUt1980> so i tried setting up my system as a NAT router last night but it didn't work, now i have to manually change my network settings every time i start up.  how can i go back and change my sys back to those original settings without reinstalling?
[03:17] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, another silly question, but, are you able to mount this stuff manually from the command line?
[03:18] <brasko> hi, for some reason, when I take screen shots, they are blank
[03:18] <simtower> grouchytim, i have never done it before actulaly but that is definitely theway
[03:18] <Xenguy> abk: or try using 'adduser' to create the new account ?
[03:18] <abk> xenguy: well, the new user's shortname was "newuser". I did "sudo passwd newuser" and it said passwd: unknown user newuser
[03:18] <grouchytim> yeah i think that is how i did it a few years ago
[03:18] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: depends what the settings where and what you changed
[03:18] <brasko> this happens with both Applications->Accessories->Take Screenshot and with Gimp File->Acquire->Screenshot
[03:18] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, another thing.  This is kinda basic, but I ended up using a script called diskmounter that makes fstab entries for anything it can find.  I wonder if you should delete (backup!) your current one, and start with that.  Simplify the problem first...
[03:18] <abk> xenguy: syntax would be "adduser newuser"?
[03:18] <grouchytim> but that was mandrake
[03:18] <grouchytim> and it was a long time ago
[03:18] <brasko> why is this?
[03:19] <wols_> gbutler: if you windows are 2k and up, you can use cups. otherwise, samba it is
[03:19] <jUggERNAUt1980> wols_, this is the HowTo i used:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91370.html
[03:19] <abk> xenguy: looks like it was an error in the GUI CP
[03:19] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: i deleted my backup, mounted my /boot partition in here just to check, and i found it!!!! it WAS in my /boot/grub/menu.lst!!!
[03:19] <abk> xenguy: it's all working when I do "sudo adduser"
[03:19] <mdkaneda> theres a line that mentioned "root=/dev/hda2...."
[03:19] <brasko> well, anyone know why my screen shots are blank?
[03:19] <abk> xenguy: how do I delete users from command line
[03:19] <mdkaneda> changed all those to "hdB2" and i should be good now
[03:19] <mdkaneda> i'm glad thats all it was, i was sweating for a while
[03:19] <valehru> Hey guys, I have a dual head setup, however certain applications do not like this setup and prefer only one monitor.  Is there a GTK application that can disable the secondary monitor??
[03:19] <mdkaneda> hehe
[03:20] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, sweetness.
[03:20] <Xenguy> abk: deluser
[03:20] <Xenguy> abk: man deluser for some good options
[03:20] <abk> xenguy: thanks mucho
[03:20] <abk> working now
[03:20] <Xenguy> abk: yw
[03:20] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: and what is the problem now (btw: bad howto. only thing necessary is ipmasq and dnsmasq
[03:20] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: ie. what setting is missing when you reboot?
[03:21] <darkanyel> hi
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> wols_, yeah, i figured that when it didn't work.
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> well, it automatically enables eth0, and my wifi (ath0) won't resolve an ip adress.
[03:21] <brasko> so, no one here knows why the screen shot would be blank?
[03:21] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, i solved the button!
[03:21] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, :D
[03:21] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: it still doesn't work, won't bring up disney channel
[03:22] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, where did you find it?
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> it isn't really that bad, i just don't want to have to disable the eth0 when i turn my box on all the time.
[03:22] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: change your /etc/resolv.conf then
[03:22] <kupesoft> Is there a command other than "diff" that shows the difference between two files?
[03:22] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, google ^^
[03:22] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: i was using Mepis for a while, until i got fed up w/ KDE.. hehe.. anyways, i liked their auto-mounting program that was preinstalled.. forgot what it was called, but it was like what ur saying, it would create entries for you, no thinking involved.
[03:22] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: put in the proper nameserver
[03:23] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, restart firefox and go "about:plugins" is flash listed?
[03:23] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, :P but what did you do exactly
[03:23] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/4265
[03:23] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, yeah, I was struggling to get the wording right for some windows and network stuff, and the diskmounter utility did the trick.  It wasn't anything fancy, just a decent script someone had made.
[03:23] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, is a bug
[03:23] <abk> OK, one more question: how do I take away a user's sudo privileges
[03:24] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, ah and you used the workaround. nice. hopefully it will be fixed in future
[03:24] <bombero> higen, where is  the trash on 6.06 ?  need to clean it
[03:24] <d3v1ant0n3> My xserver seems to be randomly dumping me back to the login screen...I have no idea why....How do I go about sorting out what the problem is?
[03:24] <wols_> abk: man sudoers
[03:24] <krazykit> abk: remove them from /etc/sudoers
[03:24] <eyequeue> abk, sudo visudoers
[03:24] <krazykit> bombero: ~/.Trash
[03:24] <darkanyel> abk, just put exit
[03:24] <wols_> d3v1ant0n3: read the X server logs
[03:24] <eyequeue> abk, and remove then from the admin group
[03:24] <d3v1ant0n3> Where do I find them?
[03:25] <d3v1ant0n3> /etc/X11?
[03:25] <wols_>  /var/log
[03:25] <d3v1ant0n3> ty
[03:25] <david__> I'm installing a windows game under wine, where is it going to put things that are suppose to go to c:\program files?
[03:25] <variant> anyone know a command line program that will set the desktop background but pass the mouse clicks through to the underlying program and not cover over desktop icons?
[03:25] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, wll time to sleep, here is 3.25 am, thanks and bytes!!!
[03:25] <eyequeue> abk, don't edit /etc/sudoers without sudo visudoers of course
[03:25] <mdkaneda> alright, well i'm gonna get outta this live cd and boot into linux. oooh, its gonna be so sexy. lol. hope it works this time, lol. thanks for everyone's help =)
[03:25] <ztg> is there anyway to determine if a system lockup is hardware or software based?
[03:25] <abk> I checked out /etc/sudoers, but it's just allowing root access to anyone in the admin group
[03:25] <variant> eyequeue: is the command not visudo ?
[03:26] <abk> how do I remove people from the admin group without using my (broken) GUI
[03:26] <wols_> abk: then remove the user from the admin group
[03:26] <Nrbelex> Anybody know where to look to get advanced VNC support?
[03:26] <eyequeue> variant, am i typoing again?  yeah
[03:26] <variant> ztg: either can create log entries.. take a look and see what you can find
[03:26] <wols_> edit /etc/group
[03:26] <ladydoor> abk: sudo cp /etc/group /etc/group.bak ; sudo nano -w /etc/group
[03:26] <variant> ztg: in /var/log/
[03:26] <bombero> krazykit, ok, is posible to clean it under KDE ?
[03:26] <eyequeue> abk, sudo nano /etc/group
[03:26] <ladydoor> abk: then manually remove the user from the group admin
[03:27] <bombero> krazykit, something like konqueror ?
[03:27] <mdkaneda> Nrbelex: from what i know ubuntu uses RealVNC. www.realvnc.com is their official site.
[03:27] <krazykit> bombero: just type ~/.Trash in the location bar
[03:27] <abk> hot, guys. thanks as always.
[03:27] <variant> mdkaneda: ubuntu uses tightvnc or any other free vnc package
[03:27] <krazykit> bombero: or open Konsole and do rm -fr ~/.Trash/*
[03:27] <variant> mdkaneda: realvnc is not free software
[03:27] <supermiguel> hello
[03:28] <supermiguel> any body know how to use proftpd
[03:28] <jUggERNAUt1980> what is the proper nameserver?
[03:28] <d3v1ant0n3> Why would X be trying to add a wacom tablet at startup?
[03:28] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ:  it says it's listed when i cd .mozilla/plugins and do ls
[03:28] <d3v1ant0n3> I don't havea wacom tablet
[03:28] <krazykit> d3v1ant0n3: because it's part of the default xorg.conf
[03:28] <bosco> bosco> i have a laptop and i sent it in to get fixed becz one of my keys was broken off and it didnt work then bt now that they pt my new key on it still doenst work any help as to how to fix it
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