[13:57] <Wilkim> If I install Ubuntu Desktop without any desktop gui packages is that the same install as ubuntu server with only ssh-server selected during install. Or does the server include extra packages? (Not talking about packages you can select during install like apache, mysql, etc.)
[13:57] <gregf_> hello, i've got install of ubuntu using virtualbox. my local machine is messed up(as i installed php5.3.x from source)
[13:58] <gregf_> now i needed to install 5.3.x with all deps( mysql/apache/ etc)
[13:58] <somsip> Wilkim: server has some additional packages as standard, like postgresql
[13:58] <tomixxx> ActionParnsnip: terminal says: lshw: command not found
[13:58] <repozitor> ActionParsnip, i need hint,
[13:58] <repozitor> i want to establish a system, which be able to accessed for 40 users,
[13:58] <repozitor> every user need to use vim, gcc, g++, cat, less commands
[13:58] <repozitor> which one is better?
[13:58] <repozitor> ubuntu-desktop
[13:58] <repozitor> or ubuntu-server
[13:58] <gregf_> s/(5\.3\.x)/php 5.3.x/
[13:58] <Wilkim> somsip thank you, I just always wondered.
[13:59] <somsip> ubottu: I'd put minimal desktop on if I were you. No strong reason except it's clean
[13:59] <Wilkim> Do you or anyone know where I can get a torrent or alterantive download for the latest ubuntu-server as the site is going way to slow for me atm =/
[13:59] <somsip> repozitor: I'd put minimal desktop on if I were you. No strong reason except it's clean
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: just generally, or using sudo?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: desktop is good if you want a desktop OS
[13:59] <gregf_> somsip: please if you could suggest some solution(s) :/. i've googled for this and i should've been up and running a week ago
[13:59] <gregf_> s/i/it/
[14:00] <soryy708> I tried saving the session manually, but that didn't quite work. It still loads an older session.
[14:00] <somsip> gregf_: I think we covered this a few days ago. You did an ugly thing, and you will have problems correcting it. so much so, that reinstalling maybe the only way to go.
[14:00] <Wilkim> nevermind, found a torrent :)
[14:01] <gregf_> somsip: well i've got a new install in virtualbox. and i wanted to repeat the steps on this new install ;)
[14:01] <somsip> gregf_: repeat what steps?
[14:02] <gregf_> installing php5.3.x
[14:02] <tomixxx> ActionParnsnip: i have done this now http://askubuntu.com/questions/296152/how-to-check-what-is-my-network-card-on-ubuntu and the info is: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co, Ltd. RTL 8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev02), Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. M3a78-eh motherboard
[14:02] <somsip> gregf_: what version of ubuntu have you installed?
[14:02] <gregf_> 12.10
[14:02] <somsip> !info php5 quantal
[14:03] <Wiz_KeeD> How does one change ALL locale settings to en_US.utf-8
[14:03] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[14:03] <gregf_> somsip: sorry 12.04
[14:03] <somsip> !info php5 precise
[14:03] <somsip> gregf_: so you're on 5.3.X already
[14:03] <gregf_> somsip: well i dont know. is it installed by default?
[14:04] <somsip> gregf_: if you install/update php5 on 12.04 using official repos, you will be on 5.3.10
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[14:04] <gregf_> somsip: let me try
[14:04] <iptable> Wiz_KeeD: apt-get --force-yes -y install language-pack-en
[14:04] <iptable> locale-gen en_US.UTF-8
[14:04] <iptable> update-locale LANG="en_US.UTF-8" LANGUAGE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" LC_CTYPE="C"
[14:05] <gregf_> sompsip: and if i install ubuntu 13.x?
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> are you sure I ned to install the language back if it's allready there and re-genrate?
[14:05] <somsip> gregf_: fo !info php5 {version}
[14:05] <somsip> *do
[14:05] <iptable> Wiz_KeeD: I gave you the instructions in full. Do adapt to your own needs and requirements.
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you iptable
[14:06] <iptable> Wiz_KeeD: also some debian/ubuntu specific stuff on locale: sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[14:07] <repozitor> ActionParsnip, hhhm, yes, i like to users access to the other command instead of these with sudo password
[14:07] <gregf_> somsip: well should i try and install php5 and see what version gets installed?
[14:07] <iptable> Wiz_KeeD: and this one from ubuntu website: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup. Although note I always used the update-locale and it worked for me
[14:07] <Layke> Another fun issue... after fixing my previous dependency issue by removing some bad libqtcore, after a restart, I can't boot into ubuntu/ubuntu-2d. I've tried install unity-2d, but get http://pastie.org/8671997
[14:07] <Layke> Is there something that I can do? Would like to get unity session back
[14:08] <somsip> gregf_: no, do "!info php5 {version}" and see what it gets you and then you will know what will be installed. But hey, go for it your way
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: then you ill need command groups and users in groups to make them be a
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> able to run those with sudo
[14:08] <gregf_> somsip: well does it print to the stdout?
[14:08] <somsip> gregf_: in IRC
[14:08] <iptable> Layke: try aptitude install unity-2d as opposed to apt-get. it might tell you what it thinks about the dependencies
[14:08] <gregf_> :/
[14:09] <gregf_> !info php5 {version}
[14:09] <tomixxx> ActionParnsksnfkwora
[14:09] <tomixxx> sorry
[14:10] <tomixxx> ActionParnsnip: it always popup "wired network: disconnected"
[14:10] <tomixxx> maybe i need to adjust the bandwidht?
[14:11] <dika> hello all ! :)
[14:11] <repozitor> ActionParsnip, can you get me proper link to do that?
[14:11] <Layke> iptable, It suggested I do stuff. I'm not quite sure what it wants from me: http://pastie.org/8672011
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/sudo-command-examples/
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: no idea what a 'proper link' is
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: but there is a link...
[14:12] <repozitor> i mean tutorial
[14:12] <irgendwer4711> Elico: success with 13.10?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: http://askubuntu.com/questions/246455/how-to-give-nopasswd-access-to-multiple-commands-via-sudoers
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> repozitor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[14:13] <Elico> still testing other things so it waits but the installation was finished if I am right..
[14:14] <iptable> Layke: read the output. It's saying that unity-2d needs version of common 5.10.0 but you got 5.14.0 installed. that's why it cannot install. it's proposed action is not to install unity-2d. it asks if you are happy with this solution. Press n and see if it proposes a downgrade-and-make-it-work solution
[14:14] <repozitor> ActionParsnip, so my student must enter a sudo password, if their cmd are out of their valid command pool, right?
[14:15] <Wilkim> Just wondering, how much more RAM (estimated) does Ubuntu Server x64 (v13) use out of the box with an identical equivalent of debian (without the desktop experience), with no packages selected, as in no ssh-server, no lamp, etc.
[14:15] <iptable> repozitor: if the user is not root and the application can only be run as root, the 'student' will need to sudo application, yes.
[14:15] <iptable> repozitor: that is the correct way and people using linux should learn to use sudo when needed.
[14:16] <iptable> Wilkim: why do you say "more"?
[14:17] <iptable> Wilkim: ubuntu server naked install on ext4 on my system with nothing added uses about 60mb of RAM. That includes me being logged in and executing the free -m. I'm sure if you blacklist the modules you don't need, you will use even less.
[14:17] <iptable> Wilkim: not sure about debian, never tried to see how much RAM it needs.
[14:17] <shreezbot> I had to install Ubuntu on my server using the alternate install disk is there a good way to convert this to the server install?
[14:17] <Wilkim> well, when it comes to vmware Workstation, if I select Ubuntu x64, it defaults to 1GB ram, but thats probably because its expecting a full blown desktop experiance and all, debian 7 x64 defaults to 512MB, so it got me wondering.
[14:18] <iptable> shreezbot: what did an alternate disk install?
[14:18] <soryy708> Hi. I think that KDE (plasma and others) don't have proper permissions. How do I verify that and (if required) give them the permissions they require to operate properly?
[14:18] <Wilkim> If I had to guess debian installs less, as you have to do apt-get install sudo to even have sudo without the desktop experiance, and in ubuntu-server it comes default so I assume more comes with debian than ubuntu-server
[14:18] <iptable> shreezbot: if you got nothing installed on that alternate disk, and running standard ubuntu kernel, you already have a "server install". install the stuff you need and done.
[14:19] <shreezbot> iptable, Why did I do the alternate install?  I had issues with the installer on the server disk locking up on me.
[14:19] <iptable> Wilkim: sudo is not loaded into RAM until you run it, so no. That's got nothing to do with it. A system running empty is kernel+modules+soem libraries+whatever starts from init.
[14:20] <shreezbot> iptable, Doesn't the server exclude a bunch of "desktop stuff" you don't need, like Unity?
[14:20] <iptable> Wilkim: if you disable stuff you don't need to not start on both, and blacklist the modules you don't need on both, you end up having the same system. It's a matter of which kernel is bigger
[14:20] <ansrster> Whenever I boot from a livedisc on my laptop (win 8 pre installed) even with safeboot off it just loads up without the GUI, does anyone know how to fix this?
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  server doenst come with a GUI at all
[14:20] <iptable> shreezbot: so I am asking what you have installed with alternate install?
[14:21] <iptable> shreezbot: there is a way to boot the server installer btw in a way it will allow you to complete installation using ssh from a remote machine ;) but I guess the problem is more complicated.
[14:21] <gregf_> somsip: thanks
[14:21] <Wilkim> iptable I figured, I was just wondering, thank you for the information :)
[14:21] <tomixxx> how do i find out which LINUX kernel driver is nunning behind my ubuntu?
[14:21] <iptable> shreezbot: I would say aptitude purge unity unity-2d etc... to make it a "server" install. compare what is and isn't installed on ubuntu server and remove it using aptitude purge from current install.
[14:21] <iptable> Wilkim: no problem.
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> tomixxx  uname -r
[14:21] <tomixxx> tx
[14:21] <somsip> tomixxx: uname -r
[14:22] <iptable> tomixxx: are you connecting from a mobile to IRC?
[14:22] <ansrster> anyone?
[14:22] <shreezbot> iptable, Oh wow, that would have been super good to know!  If I didn't alread have my server configured with the applications I'm running, I would go back and redo it...
[14:22] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[14:22] <tomixxx> iptable: no, from my laptop via wlan
[14:22] <ansrster>  Whenever I boot from a livedisc on my laptop (win 8 pre installed) even with safeboot off it just loads up without the GUI, does anyone know how to fix this?
[14:22] <iptable> tomixxx: use full sentences please
[14:22] <shreezbot> iptable, I think Unity is probably the only thing that I really dont' need quite frankly.
[14:23] <iptable> ansrster: I would say install a GUI... need more infor please. what have you tried, distro, what is the GUI, etc
[14:23] <ikonia> errr it's a "livecd"
[14:23] <ikonia> so "install a gui" doesn't seem a good fix
[14:23] <iptable> shreezbot: pretty much I would say. aptitude purge unity unity-2d should fix that
[14:23] <ansrster> Yeah
[14:23] <jeet> are xubuntu and ubuntu the same thing except for the desktop environment?
[14:23] <iptable> oh, missed the livecd thingie. still, what distro and what DE?
[14:23] <ikonia> it's probably droping to the busy box shell due to lack of disk being avilable, or not loading the X11 session due to the video card
[14:24] <ansrster> ubuntu 12.04
[14:24] <bgardner> jeet: Yes
[14:24] <jeet> thanks
[14:24] <iptable> ansrster: what's the prompt you are getting?
[14:24] <ansrster> Deault DE so unity, but i've had the same issue with Gnome
[14:24] <ansrster> not sure what you mean by prompt, it's just booting up from the command line
[14:25] <ikonia> that is a prompt
[14:25] <ikonia> the command line is a prompt
[14:25] <ansrster> then that
[14:25] <jeet> which version should i go with? i see 13.10 is the newest, is that good?
[14:25] <iptable> what is the line you are getting in the command prompt? I need that to know if you are in busybox/shell etc
[14:25] <k1l_> jeet: yes, that is good
[14:25] <jeet> thanks
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> jeet  12.04 if you want long support, 13.10 if you want the latest stuff
[14:26] <jeet> i just want to learn
[14:26] <jeet> so is 13.10 okay?
[14:26] <jeet> i guess so?
[14:26] <ansrster> erm, it's just showing up with $home there is a welcome message too
[14:27] <iptable> ansrster: ok, run dmesg. see if it gives you any errors regarding your graphics card. what is your machine btw?
[14:28] <ansrster> c50d-a-13v
[14:28] <irgendwer4711> Elico: ok...
[14:28] <ansrster> toshiba I'll get back on the result
[14:28] <ansrster> need to reboot
[14:32] <ansrster> iptable: dumped a lot of stuff, what should I look for specifically
[14:33] <soryy708> I'd like to formally remind you about my last query.
[14:33] <TriBeCa99> I just finished intializing a Raid 6 on an Areca hardware controller, can someone tell me how to figure out which /dev/ is the array?
[14:33] <greys> mdadm --detail /dev/md127
[14:33] <iptable> ansrster: anything that would say error or something similar on the issue of graphics card. alternately, you can pastebinit (it's a tool you can install) for us to see
[14:34] <iptable> ansrster: out of couriosity, what IS the laptop? saying toshiba doesn't say a lot.
[14:34] <ansrster>  c50d-a-13v
[14:35] <ansrster> how would I go about that pastebin
[14:35] <TriBeCa99> greys: if that was directed at me, "no such file or directory"
[14:35] <iptable> ansrster: does it have internet connection (the laptop) right now? try dig google.com +short
[14:37] <ansrster> no connection right now, can I do that from cl?
[14:37] <ansrster> or will I need an ethernet
[14:39] <kiwi_> hi ... how can i download or capture *embedded* flash videos?
[14:39] <iptable> ansrster: have you tried later ubuntu by the way? 13.10 etc?
[14:39] <kiwi_> any ubuntu tools?
[14:40] <ansrster> mhm
[14:40] <ansrster> not just ubuntu, when I try Elementary it can't load up at all
[14:40] <greys> TriBeCa99: well the same command with /dev/md0 or /dev/md1 may also work - in different distros default number is different
[14:40] <iptable> ansrster: you will have tyo go through dmesg and /var/log/X.org... etc to find an error
[14:40] <Beast_> I had a problem with a toshiba too, a satallite L350D. It'd get really hot to the point where it'd power it self off
[14:41] <iptable> ansrster: or try /etc/init.d/gdm start or /etc/init.d/lightdm start - see if they produce an error
[14:41] <TriBeCa99> greys: md0 is the softRaid 1 ubuntu is installed on. I just set up the hardware (not fake) Raid 6, but I'm not seeing it in /dev/
[14:43] <Beast_> apparently some kernel module (for a netbook model) would have worked but no longer available
[14:43] <TriBeCa99> any chance the raid 6 is showing up as /dev/sda for some reason? My 3 raid 1 disks appear to be sdb, sdc, and sdd--no idea what sda would be otherwise
[14:43] <greys> TriBeCa99: I see. So you configured in on the RAID controller or in your BIOS. Then check dmesg, it should show a new device registering upon reboot (probably /dev/sd*)
[14:44] <ansrster> given me this error message
[14:44] <TriBeCa99> greys: Yes--I'm not seeing where in dmsg it defines the dev/sd*
[14:46] <vlad_starkov> Guys, recommend me please a tiny Linux distributive that will let me boot from USB flash and to make some recovery procedures in bash (I'll need dm-crypt, mdadm and mc). Thanks.
[14:46] <ansrster> rejected send message, 1 matched rules: type="method_call", sender=":1.22" (uid=999 pid=3343 comm="start lightdm ") interface="com.ubuntu.upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" request_reply="0" destinatiom="com.ubuntu.upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init") iptable
[14:47] <tomixxx> sudo ifup eth1 takes a few minutes then it stop and starts the process. it this normal?
[14:47] <tomixxx> however, i get no ip assigned to the eth1 device from the dhcp server
[14:47] <greys> TriBeCa99: do this then, to identify all the /dev/sd* disks - should be possible to see which ones are single HDDs vs the RAID6 array you've just created. hdparm -i /dev/sd*
[14:48] <Wilkim> jw, when linux boots up, of any sort, I always notice [ #.########## ] starting from like 0.0###### to 11.#######, is that like the percentage booted or somthing?
[14:48] <iptable> ansrster: did you do that with sudo / as root?
[14:48] <TriBeCa99> nm, got it--it's sda as I thought
[14:48] <TriBeCa99> thanks for your help
[14:49] <TriBeCa99> 24 TB Raid 6 woooooo
[14:49] <ansrster> no, I'll do it as root
[14:49] <greys> TriBeCa99: wow! :)
[14:50] <ansrster> starting some stuff up now
[14:50] <pwaleczek> hey guys, I don't know if it's related to ubuntu specifically, but that's my vps os. I'm in a picke with processes which are spawning multiple sub-processes, I'm confused why's that happening.
[14:53] <pwaleczek> to be more specific, lte's say I start my mongodb instance, it spawnd multiple sub-processes with their ow pids, and then I run my node server, it has got ~4 sub-processes although I'm not clustering it and I've got oly one logical cpu in my vm
[14:54] <ansrster> any idea how long this should take
[14:55] <iptable> ansrster: a few seconds up to a minute if you have no correct driver
[14:56] <Enfo> Hello all. I've set up a NFSv4 server according to the wiki and I have a problem. I need to create a hard link between two sub-folders (/export/client1/dir1/ and /export/client1/dir2/) on the pseudo filesystem, but this apparently isnt possible because the two directories (which are mounted with mount --bind) are in practice two different file systems. Is there any way around this?
[14:57] <tomixxx> i can see eth1 care but it does not get any ip from dhcp server. "interfaces" file is edited already: auto eth1 \\ iface eth1 inet dhcp
[14:57] <tomixxx> -care,
[14:57] <tomixxx> +card
[14:58] <tomixxx> does anyone know what the problem could be?
[14:58] <iptable> tomixxx: do you have the isc-dhcp-client package installed?
[14:59] <iptable> tomixxx: run `which dhclient` to see if you have dhcp client
[14:59] <ansrster> the last thing it said is * Stoping system V runlevel compatalibilty [OK] and nothing since
[14:59] <tomixxx> iptable: if i try it with my other etherncard, card, i get an ip over dhcp
[14:59] <solofight> i am installing ubuntu on my laptop - i read the tutorial that i need to create a root (similar to c: on windows) and swap (which should be equal to ram size and for higher size disk, double the ram size)...... Now i have a 500 GB disk on which 250 GB i am allocating for ubuntu... so should i leave 8gb swap or 16 gb swap ?? (my ram is 8Gb)
[14:59] <tomixxx> iptable: terminal says /sbin/dhclient
[15:00] <iptable> tomixxx: so it's only an issue for one interface? cable faulty?
[15:00] <dyu> how do i let an ssh-dss key login to my machine? ssh-rsa keys work fine. 12.04
[15:00] <tomixxx> iptable: yes, only one interface
[15:01] <tomixxx> iptable and it is not the cable
[15:01] <iptable> tomixxx: if eth0 is disabled, does eth1 get dhcp address by any chance?
[15:01] <tomixxx> iptable: so i should run "sudo ifdown eth0" ?
[15:02] <iptable> tomixxx: did you service networking restart once you changed interfaces file?
[15:02] <tomixxx> whenever i change "interfaces" file, i do ifdown or ifup on the edited ethernet card
[15:03] <iptable> tomixxx: that doesn't necessarily work.
[15:03] <tomixxx> iptable: ok, so what could i do?
[15:04] <FireStorms> Is dual booting linux and windows a security threat to linux when logged into the windows os?
[15:04] <iptable> tomixxx: service networking restart
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> FireStorms: no because Windows cannot access Ext4
[15:05] <FireStorms> ActionParsnip, support for etx4 can be gotten for windows
[15:05] <tomixxx> iptable: what is the command for this and is it the same if i simply reboot the computer?
[15:05] <iptable> tomixxx: service networking restart
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> FireStorms  still, windows malware wouldnt work in linux
[15:06] <iptable> tomixxx: and yes, if you just reboot, it will have the same effect
[15:06] <tomixxx> iptable: k, because i have rebooted but it does not help
[15:06] <FireStorms> MonkeyDust, but could files be accessed?
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> FireStorms  i've never read anywhere that it could, so no
[15:06] <fer755> MonkeyDust dont worry only malware related to nic's and so are minimal
[15:07] <tomixxx> if i do "sudo service networking restart" it says : "stop: unknown instance: networking stop/waiting"
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> fer755  i'm not worrying, better tell it to FireStorms
[15:07] <iptable> tomixxx: put only eth1 declaration into /etc/network/interfaces, no eth0. Then reboot. Just for the sake of it. If that doesn't fix it, it will be 1. network driver or 2. cable or 3. the switch/port it's plugged into
[15:08] <fer755> routers, isp servers etc etc
[15:08] <FireStorms> The answer is yes anyway, it's possible to access a linux partion on windows http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows
[15:08] <tomixxx> iptable: ok, i will try
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> FireStorms  what is your actual issue?
[15:10] <iptable> FireStorms: no, it's impossible unless you install a 3rd party driver as administrative user
[15:10] <NastyNaz> i have a .conf in /etc/init that starts genericdaemon on system start. genericdaemon is now running, how do I stop it?
[15:10] <FireStorms> MonkeyDust, No issue, just concerned about security; I use linux for work, but would like to use windows for 'play' without adding any security risks.
[15:11] <iptable> FireStorms: "security" of what? Linux cannot get windows viruses. Your only concern would be some virus which will remove all files after installing ext2 driver...
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> !av | FireStorms do some reading here
[15:11] <tomixxx> iptable: i reboot now and ubuntu splash screen says "waitinng for network configuration..."
[15:12] <FireStorms> iptable, I know, but I don't want anyone getting access to my projects on linux whilst on windows
[15:12] <iptable> tomixxx: I would say 1. cable or 2. network card driver or 3. switch/port that the cable is plugged into
[15:12] <tomixxx> iptable: it is not the cable!!! ^^
[15:12] <iptable> FireStorms: you should use encryption for your /home in that case
[15:12] <iptable> tomixxx: tried with another cable I'm guessing.
[15:13] <tomixxx> iptable: y, i have 3k cables here :D
[15:13] <iptable> tomixxx: ok, 2 options left. are you sure it's not a switch/port? Switch could be allowing dhcp only for a particular mac (mac locking), etc...
[15:14] <tomixxx> iptable: i dont know, i have no access to the switch which connects me to the university-network
[15:14] <tomixxx> iptable: maybe i have the wrong network driver installed
[15:15] <tomixxx> hmm
[15:15] <iptable> tomixxx: I would guess it could be switch blocking. contact the network admin.
[15:15] <tomixxx> iptable: good idea, because some time ago, i had to give them the MAC address of my laptop too
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> FireStorms  look at the big title http://www.ubuntu.com/
[15:16] <FireStorms> MonkeyDust, haha cool, would this apply to linux mint too?
[15:16] <iptable> tomixxx: :/ right. that would be why. It's mac-locking. they need to add another mac to it.
[15:17] <iptable> FireStorms: yes. linux mint is ubuntu with another GUI
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> more or less
[15:17] <shreezbot> Ok, so I removed Unity and now when I do a "sudo reboot" it doesn't reboot.  If I do "sudo reboot now" it will reboot, but when it comes up, it comes up to the GRUB menu where I have to select an option before it will boot Ubuntu, then I don't seem to be able to do anything from there...  :(
[15:17] <fer755> iptable> cinnamon?
[15:18] <iptable> yes
[15:19] <repozitor> iptable, in /etc/sudoers
[15:19] <repozitor> %programmers indicate a group filtering?
[15:19] <Xuisce1> hi all
[15:19] <tomixxx> iptable: thank you so far. i have already contacted a network admin. :-)
[15:20] <repozitor> let me please to describe what i need.
[15:20] <repozitor> there are 40 users, and this users MUST use only 3 commands -> gcc, g++, vim
[15:20] <repozitor> i move these 40 users into a group named std.
[15:21] <repozitor> but they now have access to ping, but i like to deny them!
[15:22] <trijntje> repozitor: even if you get that, can't they just compile ping themselves and run it?
[15:23] <Dureiken> Hi there, could someone help me : I can't boot to Ubuntu (13.10 and 12.04) with 3 AMD GPU, it worked with 2, 3 days I'm on it without success. Thanks a lot
[15:23] <repozitor> trijntje, no can't
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> Dureiken  what happens when you try?
[15:24] <Dureiken> Monkeydust : xorg don't initialize, stuck on UBUNTU or black screen
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | Dureiken try this
[15:24] <Dureiken> I can access via ssh, tried aticonfig --initial --adapter=all without success
[15:26] <repozitor> trijntje, i like to create this system,
[15:26] <repozitor> every users of std group, can login with their ssh account
[15:26] <repozitor> and in terminal, they can run only 3 command (gcc, g++, vim)
[15:26] <repozitor> so tell me how to do it?
[15:27] <trijntje> repozitor: I dont know how to do this, but you don't want users to be able to run the programs they compile?
[15:28] <llutz> repozitor: you have to create a jail/chroot-env containing only the commands and all libs etc they need.
[15:28] <repozitor> trijntje, they can run the program they compiled by gcc or g+=
[15:28] <repozitor> g++
[15:29] <llutz> repozitor: like http://allanfeid.com/content/creating-chroot-jail-ssh-access
[15:29] <trijntje> repozitor: so that won't work, because evil users will just download the source code for 'ping', compile it and run it anyway
[15:29] <solofight> is 20 gb enough for /     ?? am installing ubuntu 12
[15:30] <trijntje> solofight: yes, but unless you have a separate /home you'll only have ~15G available
[15:30] <fer755> unless u create a group net and negate the acces to all not it to net things
[15:30] <solofight> trijntje: yes i am planning to put home of 230gb
[15:30] <solofight> thank you
[15:30] <repozitor> trijntje, hhmm propably, but users are nobew!
[15:31] <llutz> repozitor: mount their homes noexec
[15:33] <repozitor> llutz, can you explain more about what you mean?
[15:34] <llutz> repozitor: jail your users, let them write only into their homes, mount those with noexec option. then they shouldn't be able to compile/run stuff you don't want. but they also won't be able to the stuff they need g++/gcc for
[15:35] <llutz> compile+run*
[15:35] <repozitor> llutz, and you link tell how to that, right?
[15:36] <repozitor> your*
[15:36] <repozitor> to do*
[15:36] <llutz> repozitor: no its just the basic chroot/jail setup
[15:36] <repozitor> oh my god!
[15:36] <solofight> when i select install now option after creating a / /home and /swap -- it says the parition table format in use on your disks mormally RedDeatquires you to create a seperate partition for boot loader code. this partition should be marked for use as "Reserved BIOS boot area................ if you dont go back to paritioning menu and correct this error ...." how do i correct this message ?
[15:36] <repozitor> hhhmm, i need something like jail for them
[15:37] <solofight> should i press continue or go back ?
[15:37] <computer> hello
[15:37] <computer> i got ubuntu12.04.03 but no sound
[15:38] <oaulakh> hello you all
[15:38] <oaulakh> i'm using ubuntu studio,but dont know how to decrease brightness
[15:39] <iptable> solofight: as per the message, go back to partitioner and create a small (10MB will do) partition at the beginning, called "Reserved BIOS boot area". Partition the rest as required.
[15:40] <iptable> solofight: you need to go back. without that partition you cannot boot. I'm guessing your HDD is over 2TB in size.
[15:40] <shreezbot> This is strange...  The GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT option doesn't seem to be working at all...  My machine just sits at the GRUB menu forever...
[15:41] <iptable> computer: lspci/lsusb output please (please run as root and put to pastebin).
[15:41] <iptable> shreezbot: that's not HIDDEN_TIMEOUT. That's TIMEOUT
[15:41] <iptable> shreezbot: HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is when you enable hidden option
[15:42] <fer755> shreezbot> its 0 change to 1 or so
[15:43] <Touhou11> oaulakh: Adjust colour profiles, or use the buttons on your monitor
[15:43] <gregf_> hi, is there a way to resolve this: sudo apt-get install -f openssh-server (The following packages have unmet dependencies. openssh-server : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.16) but 2.15-0ubuntu20.2 is to be installed
[15:43] <computer> iptable> hi thx for your help, how to do lspici lsub?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> gregf_  what ubuntu version?
[15:43] <shreezbot> iptable, I have GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 and it still sits there forever.
[15:43] <gregf_> monkeyDust:12.10
[15:44] <iptable> gregf_: when was the last time you ran apt-get update?
[15:44] <hggdh> shreezbot: this may happen when the previous boot failed
[15:44] <llutz> gregf_: sudo apt-get update
[15:44] <gregf_> well i've run it how many times i've lost count :/
[15:44] <Touhou11> gregf_: Update
[15:44] <iptable> computer: just run: sudo lspci; sudo lsusb
[15:44] <oaulakh> not working
[15:44] <oaulakh> already done thats why i'm come here
[15:44] <shreezbot> hggdh, Well, I'm having a strange issue with the use of reboot.  When I use reboot, it won't reboot the machine.  I have to use "reboot now"
[15:45] <shreezbot> Just a straight "sudo reboot" seems to do nothing.
[15:45] <gregf_> is there a way to fix : E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  your question being?
[15:45] <computer> iptable http://pastebin.com/FqEZRhVe
[15:45] <llutz> gregf_: apt-mark unhold <package-in-question>
[15:46] <shreezbot> MonkeyDust, Well, I'd love to know how in the world to figure out why "sudo reboot" isn't working...
[15:46] <gregf_> llutz: would that not install the said package?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  "now" is a parameter for reboot, you can also delay the reboot command, that's all
[15:46] <spartacurse> so err... I just did a # shutdown now on a machine 47 metric miles from here, nobody is on the site, any rescue or should I migrate to venus?
[15:46] <solofight> iptable: the hdd is 520 gb..... if i do that it wont affect my win8 partition boots right ?
[15:46] <llutz> gregf_: sure, but if you want to fix the packages, you'll need to
[15:46] <sona> hi
[15:47] <iptable> computer: Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device aac0
[15:47] <solofight> iptable: forgot to tell that i am trying to do a dual boot where the ubuntu by default did not detect the win8 os in hdd
[15:47] <solofight> iptable: so now by creation this bios 10mb partition - it wont affect right ?
[15:47] <iptable> computer: does AMD have a linux driver for your motherboard?
[15:47] <whoever> hi all i am tring to assign a shortcut key under setttings> keyboard> shortcuts  and the setting don't appear to be working can someone assist
[15:48] <repozitor> during install jailkit i see this error
[15:48] <repozitor> undefined reference to `pthread_create'
[15:48] <repozitor> how to install pthread libs?
 hi I don't know lol, will check google
[15:48] <gregf_> llutz: i get the message : package was already not hold.
[15:48] <iptable> solofight: it will. you cannot createa a partition on the start without removing your win8 partition. Using EFI?
[15:48] <gregf_> llutz: i'm really confused. is there a way to get a clean apt?
[15:48] <llutz> gregf_: maybe your mirror isn't synced completely atm and it holds back updates. wait a while if possible and try again
[15:49] <computer> iptable what is my motherboard lol
[15:49] <iptable> gregf_: or change mirror
[15:49] <whoever> i have clicked custom shorcuts > plus sign, given a name to the shortcut, in the command i put firefox , clicked apply, set the shortcut to ctrl+F9 and nothing happens when i hit ctrl+F9
[15:49] <Layke> I'm trying to fix my repo issues. I still can't install certain packages. This time I'm trying to install wine... http://pastie.org/8672271
[15:49] <gregf_> llutz: how could i change mirror? is it by changing the sources list?
[15:49] <solofight> iptable: ou cannot createa a partition on the start without removing your win8 partition ?
[15:49] <solofight> EFI ?
[15:49] <iptable> computer: please check with your hardware manufacturer. Check the model/make of your laptop and try on the manufacturer website
[15:49] <Layke> Getting an unmet dependency : wine1.7 : Depends: wine1.7-amd64 (= 1:1.7.11-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[15:50] <gregf_> llutz: /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[15:50] <computer> iptable ok, I will be back
[15:50] <shreezbot> MonkeyDust, Yes, but the problem that I'm having is that I should be able to just do a "sudo reboot" and it should reboot the machine.  I don't understand why it isn't rebooting when I do that...
[15:50] <llutz> spartacurse: no remote control over the machine, no wakeonlan possible, nothing? saturn or venus would be fine then
[15:50] <Layke> Learning from my previous issues, I think it's because I have installed something previously that is conflicting? So am I suposed to remove that package? And then try?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Layke: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[15:50] <iptable> solofight: I'm guessing you will have to remove all partitions and start over to get this working. sorry.
[15:50] <Layke> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> !info wine1.7 precise
[15:50] <solofight> iptable: including win8 ?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Layke: are you using a PPA?
[15:51] <Layke> ActionParsnip, Originally no. That was failing. Then I added the wine PPA
[15:51] <Layke> It was failing for 1.4
[15:51] <iptable> solofight: you already have a partition on the start where you need reserved bios boot area to dual-boot. therefore you would need to remove it.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Layke: we cannot support PPAs here
[15:51] <Layke> !info wine1.4 precise
[15:51] <llutz> gregf_: yes /etc/apt/sources.list and the files in sources.list.d/*
[15:51] <Layke> That's what I was trying
[15:51] <Layke> I'll remove the PPA
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  yes, this says so too, lemme try on other machine http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/shutdown-ubuntu-linux-computer/
[15:52] <gregf_> llutz: should i clear everything from there?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Layke: once you remove it, run the command in step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[15:52] <solofight> iptable: in the partition screen amongst various partitions,,, when i scroll to the far left it says free space 1.0mb and the same on the far right.... both the beginning and ending of the disk is free space with 1mb
[15:52] <iptable> whoever: did you specify full path for the shortcut, or just "firefox"?
[15:52] <llutz> gregf_: just replace the main-ubuntu-mirrors if you really want that
[15:52] <llutz> gregf_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main
[15:53] <solofight> iptable: are you saying that win8 has already created the bios boot area and i need to remove that and create a new for the ubuntu ? if yes how to identify which partition to remove ?
[15:53] <iptable> solofight: you need slightly more for BIOS boot area from what I remember. you can try to create it at the start on the 1MB, but I doubt it will work.give it a shot.
[15:53] <gregf_> llutz: other than the mirrors, would it be possible to also fix the unmet dependencies error please?
[15:53] <iptable> solofight: no. you have windows as first partition, right?
[15:53] <llutz> gregf_: maybe your mirror isn't synced completely atm and it holds back updates. wait a while if possible and try again
[15:53] <solofight> iptable: yes
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  sudo reboot reboots on 12.04, ok, i wondre what's wrong on your pc
[15:54] <gregf_> llutz: well i've been trying for hours altogether and i am where i was 4 hours back :/
[15:54] <llutz> gregf_: "a while" might take days
[15:54] <shreezbot> MonkeyDust, Yea, that's what I'm having trouble figuring out...  It is very strange...
[15:54] <gregf_> is it possible to restore my file system to a previous state :/
[15:55] <iptable> solofight: in that case, linux needs some space at the beginning, before windows, in order to put some boot code. It cannot since windows is already there. you do need to remove windows partition and createa that boot area and windows behind it. you *could* try shrinking the windows partition, but if it fails, you lost it
[15:55] <shreezbot> MonkeyDust, It actually tells me the system is going down for reboot NOW, but then does nothing...
[15:55] <llutz> gregf_: apt-get remove openssh-server
[15:55] <jhutchins> iptable: That is not correct.
[15:55] <alloxrinfo> Hi
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> gregf_: use your backups
[15:55] <demophobia> Is Ubuntu One free?
[15:55] <demophobia> e.g. backups?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: yes, and no
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: you get some storage free, you can pay for more
[15:56] <jhutchins> solofight: iptable is wrong, the space (for the mbr) is already available on a Windows system.
[15:56] <solofight> iptable: but what happens if i create the bios boot space in between ?
[15:56] <solofight> jhutchins: how to correct this ?
[15:56] <iptable> jhutchins: we already know windows works. it's linux that won't install as it wants "bios reserved boot area" at the beginning of the HDD, where currently windows sits.
[15:56] <jhutchins> solofight: This is true of GPT/UEFI as well, Windows has already allocated the space.
[15:57] <jhutchins> !efi
[15:57] <demophobia> Is it 5 GB of free backup storage? https://one.ubuntu.com/services/free/
[15:58] <solofight> jhutchins: yes you are right - i saw something like UEFi in the bios
[15:58] <solofight> will read that link and get back
[15:58] <alloxrinfo> Long time i did not scipted anything. I need a little help from someone kind enough. What would be the best way for me to get a script or a function that would replace some text (with variables given when executing the script) in a based text ? Do i need to be more clear ? Like my text is Hey hello $1 do you want some $2, and the script would be function hello  { echo "Hello $1 do you want some $2 ?" } The problem is that i hav
[15:58] <alloxrinfo> e 5 variables at least and the thing i need to Echo or write in a document is some Html Code
[15:58] <iptable> jhutchins: ooh, interesting. didn't realise there was a whole manual for that. we live and learn
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> alloxrinfo  better ask in #bash, i guess
[15:59] <alloxrinfo> or in #php ;)
[15:59] <alloxrinfo> ok thanks  MonkeyDust
[15:59] <Layke> ActionParsnip, This: https://gist.github.com/62b93c0bfd6f029d24ef
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Layke: ok, run:  sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install wine
[16:00] <Layke> ActionParsnip, From fixing previous repo/dependency issues today, most of this has been caused by some bad PPA package I think I might have installed.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Layke: thats why PPAs are not advised
[16:01] <Layke> http://pastie.org/private/wswb7cha2ctilcjgzq6gw
[16:02] <Layke> Yeah. I've learnt from this mistake definitely..
[16:02] <Layke> I can't even imagine what PPA it could be. It's not like I go adding every PPA under the sun
[16:03] <Layke> Just things like dropbox/spotify/google/steam for installing their products. But I guess.. that's where I went wrong at some point
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Layke: run:  sudo apt-get -f install    does it sort the packages?
[16:04] <Layke> No? http://pastie.org/8672308
[16:04] <fellayaboy> hey can ubuntu act as a pxe server and deploy windows images
[16:05] <Touhou11> Layke: Be careful installing proprietary software, it could be damaging your system
[16:05] <demophobia> adobe flash web plugin keeps crashing every time i try to mouseover a particular application of it
[16:05] <Layke> Touhou11, It's definitely damaging :) It's borked up massively
[16:05] <demophobia> i've already reported it once via the 'send crash report' thing it has; should i just let it go?
[16:05] <kevlar555> Hi from Argentina!
[16:06] <Touhou11> Richard Stallman summarizes the issues with proprietary software nicely here: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html
[16:07] <Layke> ActionParsnip, Link above btw. http://pastie.org/8672308
[16:07] <whoever> iptable:  i specified full path
[16:10] <hexitus> 10
[16:10] <ddssc> tried to install this likewise-open thing and it hanged. now my apt is all fubar'd. "nable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" how do I fix apt?
[16:10] <whoever> iptable: brb, logout and back in
[16:11] <iptable> ddssc: lsof |grep dpkg
[16:12] <ddssc> dpkg refuses to cooperate says http://paste.ubuntu.com/6826925/
[16:13] <ddssc> iptable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6826934/
[16:13] <ddssc> i tried remove --purge likewise-open , won't work either
[16:13] <iptable> ddssc: first lsof |grep dpkg - find what uses dpkg. you *could* pkill -9 dpkg
[16:13] <Elico> mikubuntu: here?
[16:14] <iptable> ddssc: kill -9 dpkg should make it usable again. then use dpkg/apt to finish installation
[16:14] <iptable> ddssc: pkill -9 dpkg, not kill, sorry
[16:14] <ddssc> iptable according to lsof the likewise- process is using it
[16:14] <ddssc> ?
[16:15] <iptable> ddssc: no, dpkg is using it. pkill -9 dpkg
[16:15] <iptable> ddssc: as root/sudo
[16:15] <ddssc> done
[16:15] <ddssc> now only this is displayed
[16:15] <ddssc> likewise- 13309             root   10r      REG                8,6         6563    2628491 /var/lib/dpkg/info/likewise-open.postinst
[16:15] <iptable> ddssc: when done, apt-get -f install OR dpkg-reconfigure likewise-open
[16:15] <ddssc> iptable: which one?
[16:16] <iptable> ddssc: run first one. errors out, try second one.
[16:16] <ddssc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6826954/
[16:17] <ddssc> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[16:17] <ddssc> neither works.
[16:17] <ddssc> god damn it..
[16:17] <iptable> ddssc: looks like postinstall script hung as well, so you could kill -9 13309 first as well.
[16:18] <Elico> irgendwer4711
[16:18] <iptable> ddssc: you need to kill the likewise postinstall script, dpkg and apt, then try again to configure it. and it looks like you are missing lwsmd, which is from likewise-optn.  2. aptitude purge likewise-open. 3. aptitude install likewise-open
[16:18] <vearva> hello, I got ubuntu 12.04.03 and it freeze totally sometimes
[16:19] <Elico> there is a basic issue with samba4 which is stated as the password complexity.
[16:19] <TeraJL> on phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210_ups&num=2 , i see some low FPS vs 12.10... was it an update that eventually got to LTS, or is it not as significative as it looks, (i will use this machine for gamming)
[16:19] <vearva> keyboard, mouse not working+monitor freeze, can't do anything
[16:19] <iptable> vearva: tried CTRL+ALT+F1 when it's frozen?
[16:19] <Morgan_Freeman> http://i.imgur.com/KPM7Jkv.jpg
[16:20] <iptable> vearva: if so, and if that doesn't respond: install lm-sensors and xsensors. Monitor temperature. See if it's temperature related (overheating).
[16:21] <ddssc> iptable: how do I kill that script?
[16:21] <repozitor> iptable, for example when i login to my sourceforcge account, i can't ping any site.
[16:21] <vearva> iptable, hi, I tried your command once but impossible, keyboard not working when the freeze occur; temperature is fine also
[16:21] <repozitor> let me see how they do this
[16:21] <iptable> vearva: you could also, after rebooting, check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg* if you have one, in order to find out if there are any useful lines there.
[16:21] <repozitor> do you know how they do this?
[16:22] <repozitor> i have ssh access on my sourceforge account
[16:22] <iptable> vearva: "temperature is fine", but did you have it monitored when this happened?
[16:22] <vearva> iptable, my fan didn't make so much noise
[16:23] <vearva> iptable oh
[16:23] <iptable> vearva: hah. ok. now, did you know a CPU temperature may jump from 60 degrees to 110 in 3 seconds? Did you know your sensors might not even figure out to turn the fan up by the time it's overheating?
[16:23] <vearva> I found interesting thing in the log!
[16:23] <iptable> repozitor: you got me lost. what's the issue?
[16:24] <iptable> vearva: you can share the interesting thing via pastebin ;)
[16:24] <vearva> iptable, nop, but I found some error in the log from your directory; drivers seems to be the culprit
[16:24] <repozitor> iptable, i can't create a group with my limitation rules!
[16:24] <vearva> damn amd lol
[16:24] <repozitor> i need to block some specific CMD's like apt-get and ping and etc
[16:25] <ddssc> ip: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[16:25] <iptable> repozitor: I don't think I worked on your issue. first time I heard. Block globally, or what? Also, users without root access cannot apt-get install anyways and ping is not a hacker command, whatever they tell you
[16:26] <iptable> ddssc: I already told you. lsof |grep dpkg. Then kill -9 PID or pkill -9 NAME
[16:26] <iptable> vearva: hah, welcome to AMD world. what's the error anyways?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> repozitor  is this usefeul http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1908933
[16:26] <repozitor> iptable, i want to block some CMD's like axel wget and.
[16:26] <ddssc> iptable: done all that. I breaks when I try to apt purge likewise
[16:26] <repozitor> because network limitations
[16:27] <iptable> vearva: also, AMD do *some* drivers to their cards for linux. you could check if it's there
[16:27] <Layke> Does this aptitude output mean anything to anyone? I am not sure how to proceed with install wine. http://pastie.org/8672385
[16:27] <vearva> iptable, thx for your help, I appreciate http://pastebin.com/x8y2QDzv
[16:27] <repozitor> MonkeyDust, no
[16:27] <iptable> repozitor: I still don't understand why you would block wget and ping. Do you want to block all internet?
[16:27] <repozitor> iptable, yes,
[16:28] <iptable> ddssc: no, when you try to purge, it says debconf is used. lsof |grep debconf
[16:28] <repozitor> please note that users login to ubuntu using ssh!
[16:28] <iptable> repozitor: there are better methods to blocking internet than blocking particular network tools
[16:28] <iptable> repozitor: so you want users to ssh into the box but not access internet outgoing?
[16:28] <repozitor> hhhmm, yes
[16:29] <repozitor> also blocking something like apt-get and ....
[16:29] <fego> 12
[16:29] <ddssc> iptable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6827021/
[16:29] <iptable> repozitor: sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -j drop
[16:29] <iptable> repozitor: apt-get will get blocked, as internet outgoing access will be blocked
[16:30] <iptable> repozitor: if using ufw: ufw default deny outgoing
[16:30] <repozitor> is there possible in linux to define access level for groups?
[16:30] <repozitor> in my mind access level is some users in group X, can't use apt-get
[16:31] <iptable> repozitor: to block outgoing connections for a specific user: sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j REJECT
[16:31] <vearva> iptable, do you how to backport saucy kernel to 12.04.
[16:31] <llutz> repozitor: using apt-get would need root-rights/sudo, make sure your users cannot
[16:32] <iptable> vearva: I don't know the official method, but I would add the saucy repo, aptitude update; aptitude install {whatever kernel you want}, remove saucy repo
[16:32] <repozitor> iptable, ok, that's very good
[16:32] <repozitor> what about blocking installing .deb offilne?
[16:32] <iptable> repozitor: to install .deb, users need root access. you should NEVER give them root access, then they cannot install .deb
[16:33] <vearva> iptable, k thx man
[16:33] <ddssc> iptable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6827021/
[16:33] <iptable> vearva: no probs.
[16:34] <iptable> ddssc: I would now propose to you to reboot, then aptitude purge likewise-open, then aptitude install likewise-open
[16:34] <repozitor> ok, thanks,
[16:34] <repozitor> i will ask if i hit to an issue
[16:34] <iptable> repozitor: no prob. just run the iptables rule as root/sudo. don't give users sudo access, problem solved. they got no internet access when on the box.
[16:35] <ddssc> iptable: i think I managed to kill it, somehow  /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /usr/sbin/pam-auth-update --package refused to die with pkill. kill did kill it tho
[16:36] <iptable> ddssc: right, now try purge and then install
[16:37] <ddssc> iptable: nah thanks. I'll steer clear of that thing. I couldn't install anything else while I had this problem. thanks for your help man!
[16:37] <demophobia> So can Ubuntu 12.04 not handle Mac office files? Must they be converted to Windows Office? http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features/office-applications
[16:37] <iptable> ddssc: no problem.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: arent they the same thing?
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> demophobia  what happens when you try with libre office?
[16:38] <iptable> demophobia: please tell me what "Mac office file" is. I always believed mac used open document format.
[16:38] <demophobia> default response at the moment is to view the .numbers as a zip archive and try to open with archive manager; i'm trying to 'open with other application' now ...
[16:38] <demophobia> Apple spreadsheet is called Numbers and file extension is .numbers
[16:38] <demophobia> Apple word is called Pages and file extension is .pages
[16:38] <iptable> demophobia: that is just an extension association issue, which would exist. Try to open it with libreoffice, should work.
[16:38] <demophobia> apple presentation is called Keynote and I think uses .keynote, but i've rarely used it
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: what does the 'file' command say it is>
[16:40] <demophobia> i opened libreoffice calc and tried to open this file but it's wanting me to select some filter
[16:40] <demophobia> "Filter Selection" window with options, but i don't know which i should select
[16:40] <demophobia> or what a filter even is
[16:40] <iptable> demophobia: see ActionParsnip response. run: file /the/file.numbers
[16:41] <iptable> demophobia: also, when it opens the file with archive manager, you can see files inside? i.e. it's an archive.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: have you considered using a more portable file type than something proprietary like Mac nonesense....
[16:42] <demophobia> okay, i just did 'file' and the output: information for applications.numbers: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: try extracting it with unp
[16:42] <iptable> demophobia: then the numbers file is archive. extract and see what is inside. I would propose to save files using a more known format then proprietary and problem solved.
[16:43] <demophobia> yeah, seems it *is* a zip file -- has an XML file and other things ... seems easier for me at this point to try converting to XLSX and try again
[16:44] <mikubuntu> how do i install screenshot utility in lubuntu -- software center doesn't have one
[16:44] <iptable> demophobia: yes. Apple apparently uses iWork format, which is based on ODF, but different :/ Save in MAC using a .doc or .xls - more universal
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> !info lxscreenshot | mikubuntu
[16:44] <demophobia> ok thank you
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-screenshot
[16:45] <iptable> !info gnome-screenshot | mikubuntu
[16:45] <demophobia> iptable, wait, Open Document Format is "less universal" than a windows format?!
[16:45] <iptable> damn. ActionParsnip you are too fast :D
[16:45] <mikubuntu> ok guys thank yous
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> thought lxscreenshot was a thing
[16:46] <iptable> demophobia: well, long story of cos. but kinda
[16:46] <demophobia> cos = course?
[16:47] <iptable> demophobia: yes. stop laughing at my speech impediment :P
[16:47] <mikubuntu> iptable -- didn't appear in software center but i got it in synaptic
[16:48] <gennaro> Salve a tutti
[16:50] <demophobia> ;) okay, XLS works, thank you. LibreOffice Calc isn't as pretty as Apple Numbers '09 though. :(
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: why would you want pretty?
[16:52] <demophobia> ActionParsnip, I mean information is easier to find when my tables are listed in a column on the left side of the screen, rather than in a row of tabs at the bottom. easier to find = more efficient
[16:52] <demophobia> *names of tables
[16:53] <iptable> demophobia: I could say it the other way around. It's a matter of what you are used to.
[16:54] <iptable> demophobia: I believe Ms Office also has row of tabs at the bottom ;)
[16:55] <demophobia> yeah, which is why i started to like apple numbers '09 better ... but anyway, /offtopic i guess
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: i see what you mean
[16:55] <Minnen> hello, can someone guide me through the installation of a .tar.gz using the terminal
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: you can have each in a window, then use the grid plugin (like in Mac OS) to show all windows running
[16:56] <ddssc> Minnen: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-open-a-tar-gz-file-in-linux-unix/
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: what is in the archive, stating the file extension means nothing
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: how do you install a .zip in Window? It's meaningless
[16:57] <Minnen> e1000e-2.5.4.tar.gz
[16:57] <Minnen> thats the file
[16:57] <Minnen> lemme explain what i did so far and the error i had
[16:57] <Minnen> 1 - Run tar -xzf e1000e-2.5.4.tar.gz
[16:57] <user000> I want to make simple reminder todo breaks :) I use cron for timing and zenity for popup box. I also need some sound, like "beep" or something. Is there any installed program that can do this ? I not really want use vlc...
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: the e1000e is in the default install
[16:58] <Minnen> Browse the path cd e1000e-2.5.4
[16:58] <ddssc> altho nobody has really mastered the art of tar completely. it is prophesied that a nerd will come along who will understand how to use tar without having to google it every time.
[16:58] <Minnen> then  ./configure and this output "command not found"
[16:58] <iptable> ddssc: I have. man tar
[16:58] <Minnen> then make and told me "no makefile found"
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> user000: aplay will play an audio track
[16:59] <Minnen> thats it
[16:59] <user000> thanks Action ;)
[16:59] <Minnen> i think the problem originated in the cd part
[16:59] <iptable> Minnen: what IS in the tarball? also did you CD to the directory that got unzipped before executing those commands? also, e1000e driver is included in ubuntu I thought
[17:00] <domnic> hello
[17:00] <iptable> Minnen: you are not trying to install, but *compile" a package. why do you want to do that anyways?
[17:00] <Minnen> iptable > no i didnt not cd to the directory, in which step should i have done that
[17:01] <Minnen> iptable > to be able to install the pkg with make and make install after ./configure
[17:01] <iptable> Minnen: why are you trying to install that file?
[17:01] <iptable> Minnen: to achieve what that is?
[17:01] <Minnen> its my Ethernet driver
[17:02] <iptable> Minnen: e1000e driver is included in ubuntu. no need to install it.
[17:02] <demophobia> ActionParsnip, you mean like Spaces?
[17:03] <mikubuntu> i was having a huge problem with a black screen and unable to install -- imghost helped me with that, but had to leave and i still have this prob with resolution -- http://imagebin.org/289328 -- the monitor settings are at 1024 x 768 but as you can see it isn't rendering that way
[17:04] <iptable> Minnen: compiling packages is quite advanced, and you need to first understand basic tools, like ls, cd, ./configure, make, etc. Otherwise, use packages from repositories instead.
[17:05] <VLanX> I am stuck with an annoing graphic bug, like I cannot press most of the icons in the UNITY sidebar. Is there anything I can do other than unity --replace?
[17:07] <srsaam> buenaaaas
[17:07] <manny0080> hi
[17:07] <srsaam> hi
[17:07] <srsaam> any spanish ?
[17:08] <manny0080> no
[17:10] <iuga1> Hi all !
[17:10] <iptable> 'ello
[17:11] <_iuga_> Hi !
[17:11] <iptable> 'ello again
[17:13] <demophobia> is there a keyboard shortcut to increase volume? are all keyboard shortcuts listed in the keyboard shortcuts window under preferences?
[17:13] <Ziber> I have function keys for that...
[17:14] <iptable> demophobia: yes. on my keyboard, it's FN+F7, on my other, it's VolUp key.
[17:14] <demophobia> mine says only "Audio lower volume" and "Audio raise volume" for the keyboard shortcut ... I don't know what that implies.
[17:15] <JustSomeGuy> hi uh is it normal that when you login with lightdm the user wont appear in users?
[17:15] <demophobia> how do i reset a keyboard shortcut to its default setting?
[17:15] <iptable> demophobia: as buttons? dedicated buttons. see on your keyboard. No idea re reset, sorry
[17:15] <iptable> JustSomeGuy: won't appear in users where?
[17:16] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, in the cli
[17:16] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, when i run users
[17:16] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, i just get the user i used to login via ssh
[17:16] <demophobia> I've set it to my function keys analogous to Mac. Thank you.
[17:17] <mikubuntu> knock knock. who's there. low. low who. low resolution :: http://imagebin.org/289328
[17:18] <iptable> JustSomeGuy: no, it shows me the user logged in. shows my user twice even.
[17:19] <iptable> mikubuntu: why do you say it's low?
[17:19] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, do you have a terminal open? because if you have the user will show that session
[17:19] <JustSomeGuy> argh
[17:19] <iptable> JustSomeGuy: yes, hence it shows twice. Once for the terminal
[17:19] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, very strange if i use gdm the user is listed :/
[17:20] <WACOMalt> can someone help me? I cant cd into /var/log/apache2/ even with sudo it says permission denied
[17:20] <iptable> WACOMalt: does /var/log/apache2 exist? if so, ls -l /var/log please
[17:20] <iptable> WACOMalt: you cannot sudo cd there. you would have to sudo -i (to go to root), and then cd in there.
[17:21] <iptable> WACOMalt: also, the directory itself needs execute bit set. otherwise you cannot enter it
[17:21] <WACOMalt> O_o
[17:21] <iptable> JustSomeGuy: works here
[17:21] <WACOMalt> why would a folder need execute?
[17:21] <WACOMalt> to even view it
[17:21] <WACOMalt> I dont get this...
[17:21] <llutz> WACOMalt: ls -ld /var/log/apache2
[17:21] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, is there any way to debug something like that with lightdm?
[17:22] <iptable> WACOMalt: you cannot "view" a folder. you need to ENTER a directory to read it's contents. it's called "executing a directory". Without that bit, you cannot enter the dir.
[17:22] <WACOMalt> llutz, drwxr-x--- 2 root adm 4096 2014-01-26 06:46 /var/log/apache2
[17:22] <WACOMalt> ah
[17:22] <WACOMalt> I never knew that
[17:22] <iptable> WACOMalt: so root user and adm group can both enter the dir. no one else can. you can do it as root
[17:22] <llutz> WACOMalt: so sudo less /var/log/apache2/file.you.want.to.see.log
[17:22] <WACOMalt> so why does sudo cd not work?
[17:23] <iptable> WACOMalt: you cannot do it as non-root user who is not part of adm group either. sudo cd would try to enter the dir as root and stay inside it as non-root
[17:23] <cyclist_2> Hi, there! I am unble to run Clonezilla from inside a  virtual machine [VBox]; I tried all 5 version [both Debian and Ubuntu kinds] all I cannot get past the first screen that merely starts Clonezilla; I md5sum-checked the iso files and they seem ok; any similar experiences?
[17:23] <iptable> WACOMalt: see the issue?
[17:23] <llutz> WACOMalt: sudo cd   will return right back to your users $PWD, so you don't see the "cd"
[17:23] <WACOMalt> I do
[17:23] <WACOMalt> [Sun Jan 26 06:46:06 2014] [error] (2)No such file or directory: could not open transfer log file /$
[17:23] <WACOMalt> Unable to open logs
[17:23] <WACOMalt> opps sorry for two line :X
[17:24] <iptable> WACOMalt: sudo -i (or sudo su -) and go to that dir as root
[17:24] <jhutchins> cyclist_2: What kind of VM?
[17:24] <iptable> WACOMalt: or add your user to adm group, logout and login again
[17:24] <WACOMalt> I just did. I'm in the folder already
[17:24] <JustSomeGuy> iptable, i will just submit a bugreport and use gdm for now :/ thx for your help
[17:24] <iptable> WACOMalt: now ls
[17:24] <WACOMalt> now I just dont understand the error, or how it came about
[17:24] <WACOMalt> yeah I see a ton of access error logs and regular error logs
[17:25] <iptable> WACOMalt: oh, so in the error log you got an error saying cannot open transfer log file?
[17:25] <WACOMalt> could not open transfer log file /$ unable to open Logs
[17:25] <WACOMalt> yes
[17:25] <cyclist_2> jhutchins: it's Oracle VM VirtualBox version 4.1 [I think]; but it runs other iso files ok; it is just Clonezilla that gives this problem
[17:25] <mikubuntu> iptable: sorry, had to run to the other room ... res is set at 1024 x 768 but not rendering such
[17:26] <solofight> i have a dell machine which came with win8 UEFI... kindly help me in installing ubuntu 12 in it... when i put the ubuntu live disc in it,,, the laptop never boots from the cd..so i disabled the UEFI boot and selected legacy boot and selected the cd drive... after which the disc loads and the ubuntu desktop shows up... when i select install ubuntu - - it never identified win8 ! !
[17:26] <iptable> WACOMalt: looks like your apache is misconfigured. look at config
[17:26] <mikubuntu> but hold on the damn dog is barking .. brb
[17:27] <iptable> mikubuntu: what do you mean "not rendering such". taskbar looks such
[17:27] <iptable> solofight: yeah. win8 wants uefi to boot btw. problem 1.
[17:28] <WACOMalt> iptable, apache2/apache2.conf says: ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error.log
[17:28] <WACOMalt> I'm suspecting EHCP is fudging something up here. God how I hate that software
[17:28] <solofight> iptable: so how should i handle it ?
[17:28] <jhutchins> cyclist_2: I think the issue is probably that clonezilla attempts to deal directly with storage hardware, and you don't have any in a VM.
[17:29] <iptable> WACOMalt: first, you got /etc/apache2/ - with a lot more stuff in there than just apache2.conf. Second, it not only errorlog you need, there are others defined. especially in sites-enabled
[17:29] <iptable> solofight: install ubuntu in UEFI mode. Install latest ubuntu desktop, try that.
[17:30] <iptable> solofight: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[17:30] <MuttleyBlack> Hi guys i want to do a test. you can read me?
[17:30] <SonikkuAmerica> MuttleyBlack: If you can read this, you're not a book.
[17:30] <iptable> MuttleyBlack: no, we cannot read you.
[17:31] <MuttleyBlack> hehe
[17:31] <cyclist_2> jhutchins: but I have seen video tutorials on YouTube [I can get the links here if you wish to take a look for yourself; do let me know], where the user does exactly that; and he is also using Ubuntu
[17:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Just a friendly reminder to all - today is the absolute last day that Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring) is supported. Tomorrow, we will tell you to upgrade to 13.10 (Saucy).
[17:32] <k-joseph> hi every one, i was reading some where that sudo passwd -l username is used to temporarily lock or unlock a user account using sudo passwd -u username, i run the first command and now when i run sudo su, my previous pasword fails and i fear to reboot thinking i may fail to login, any advise!!!
[17:33] <iptable> cyclist_2: does clonezilla have support to run under virtualbox?
[17:33] <daftykins> k-joseph: so you locked your only user account besides root on the system?
[17:34] <iptable> cyclist_2: clonezilla is in ubuntu repositories. why not start ubuntu desktop ISO and sudo aptitude install clonezilla
[17:34] <llutz> k-joseph: so you issued that command as the only sudo-user on the system without having a root shell opened? what did you expect to happen?
[17:35] <k-joseph> daftykins: but root also also fails to login with the previous password, llutz, what then is the way out?
[17:35] <iptable> k-joseph: boot into livecd, then all as root: mount your HDD root partition to /mnt/somewhere, then chroot /mnt/somewhere, then passwd youruser
[17:35] <llutz> k-joseph: boot into recovery mode and try to fix your useraccount or boot from live-media and chroot
[17:35] <daftykins> k-joseph: root doesn't have a password, unless you've overriden one...
[17:36] <WACOMalt> man, I should probably upgrade from 10.04...
[17:36] <Beldar> iptable, I use clonezilla with a bootable ISO on a usb it works when booted in vbox and any OS and partition type that it's website declares clone able
[17:36] <SonikkuAmerica> WACOMalt: Yeah, you should.
[17:36] <daftykins> WACOMalt: yes, it's unsupported on the desktop
[17:36] <WACOMalt> < server :)
[17:36] <Michael5> Is there anything like Windows Movie Maker? I have a video, and I want to add credits-like things to it at the start, like show text saying "MADE BY" ...etc, I tried Pitvi but there's no option like that to it. Anything else, please?
[17:36] <daftykins> meh, i'm typing from a 10.04 server right now ;)
[17:36] <iptable> Beldar: so it's user-error ;)
[17:37] <iptable> WACOMalt: upgrade to 12.04 or 14.04 soon. problem solved.
[17:37] <Beldar> iptable, Ah yes, has been for me.
[17:37] <k-joseph> iptable: llutz: daftykins: thanks for your suggestions, but am not sure how to do these suggested procedures, any help in form of links would help
[17:37] <iptable> Michael5: openshot
[17:38] <daftykins> !chroot | k-joseph
[17:38] <WACOMalt> iptable, nah, the problem is EHCP
[17:38] <WACOMalt> it'd still be broken
[17:38] <cyclist_2> iptable: I have never read all documentation,  but since it is just an iso it should, at least load and work until it encounters a problem; but all it does is an error message from VBox about some 'critical error'; I am not even trying to really run it [since I have not the interest at the moment], but I would like to see it working, say, until it is time to choose the repository and the source devices; but never went beyond the first scree
[17:39] <iptable> k-joseph: boot from live cd, then sudo mkdir /mnt/dir; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/dir; sudo chroot /mnt/dir - then passwd youruser
[17:39] <cyclist_2> iptable: I had not read you second comment; I will check the repository now!
[17:39] <iptable> k-joseph: this assumes /dev/sda1 is your root partition
[17:39] <iptable> cyclist_2: what IS your virtualbox version?
[17:41] <cyclist_2> iptable: 4.1.30
[17:42] <Beldar> cyclist_2, Does the vbox machine running work as of now, if so the .vdi the OS itself is insert-able in any vbox, a clone would only be needed when wanting ti increase the machines size really.
[17:42] <iptable> that is quite acceptable. and you booting it as an installer ISO mounted on the CD drive, right? like if you were going to install a distro?
[17:42] <cyclist_2> iptable: I do not have Clonezilla in my repository [Synaptic]; at least, not with that name...
[17:43] <iptable> cyclist_2: what is your ubuntu version? aptitude show clonezilla
[17:43] <iptable> Package: clonezilla
[17:43] <iptable> State: not installed
[17:43] <Beldar> !find clonezilla
[17:43] <Beldar> !info clonezilla
[17:44] <iptable> cyclist_2: though I am on 14.04.
[17:44] <iptable> cyclist_2: why DO you want clonezilla anyways? what's the purpose of running it in a VM?
[17:45] <cyclist_2> Beldar: yes, the VBov machines all work correctly; I even ran a Xubuntu 12.04 as 'live CD' and although a bit slow at start, then go to work really well; I even played a quick game to see it working;; but the Clonezillas iso [all 5 of them] make the virtual machine [and I have 4 installed and performing well] crash
[17:45] <kali_denali> Hi
[17:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !info virtualbox saucy
[17:46] <cyclist_2> iptable: Ubuntu 10.04
[17:46] <iptable> cyclist_2: you could try to update your virtualbox. but WHY do you want clonezilla in a VM?
[17:46] <iptable> cyclist_2: ubuntu 10.04 is not longer supported
[17:46] <Beldar> cyclist_2, Do you understand that the .vdi the OS installed is an image that can be put in any vbox setup.
[17:46] <iptable> cyclist_2: maybe with new ubuntu and newer kernel, virtualbox will work correctly with clonezilla. But why do you need clonezilla, please tell!
[17:46] <cyclist_2> iptable: I really want it to clone my PC's internal hard drive, but I want to see it working like on those tutorials
[17:47] <rostam> Hi I have a quesion on debminor. I have used this tool to locally mirror ubuntu 12.04.  However,  one particular package, python-pip, is not in the local mirror and I am not sure why? thx
[17:47] <iptable> cyclist_2: your real PC's, or virtual PC's?
[17:47] <cyclist_2> iptable: my real PC
[17:48] <iptable> cyclist_2: you want to use a clonezilla in a VM to clone your real full HDD?
[17:48] <iptable> cyclist_2: I don't see how you can do it. clonezilla has no access to your real HDD from a VM. even giving it access manually would be scary...
[17:49] <Beldar> cyclist_2, I had clonezilla work once with vbox a couple of years ago, not since have I been able to get it to work, so I just save the .vdi You might ask in #vbox as well.
[17:49] <cyclist_2> iptable: the Clonezilla iso **should** work like it was my real PC [although I would have stopped and aborted Clonezilla before any cloning took place -- I just do no understand why I crashes everytime]
[17:49] <iptable> cyclist_2: to clone your real PC, boot from clonezilla on your real PC, not from VM... you are constantly making changes to that drive and trying to clone it - bad idea.
[17:50] <iptable> cyclist_2: you cannot clone real HDD with clonezilla in VM. VM has no access to real hardware. also, you are running old ubuntu (10.04)
[17:50] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible?
[17:50] <cyclist_2> iptable: you misundertood me: I do not want to clone my real hard drive from a VM
 cyclist_2: your real PC's, or virtual PC's?
 iptable: my real PC
[17:51] <iptable> cyclist_2: to "clone" a VM, just copy the .vdi file, which is a drive image already. use the right tool for the right job.
[17:52] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible?
[17:52] <cyclist_2> I just want to see it working on a VM because I do not want to reboot my PC [and also because I hava some issues at the moment with my CD ROM drive and I cannot burn the iso image to a real CD -- so running Clonezilla from a VM becomes the next best thing and it should work like any other iso]
[17:52] <razor_> testing
[17:52] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:52] <llutz> !patience | govbnst
[17:52] <razor_> hi everyone
[17:52] <razor_> i am new
[17:53] <wollie88> @govbnst that is posible
[17:53] <razor_> any1 dere??
[17:53] <k-joseph> daftykins: by the way, i have another account and so there are two accounts running now, though i locked guest account, i still have two
[17:53] <wollie88> its gona be a bitch to configure tho
[17:53] <iptable> cyclist_2: what are you talking about? if you are cloning a VM, just use virtualbox clone capabilities. for your real PC clone, you need to boot normal. I give up
[17:53] <iptable> cyclist_2: if you just want to "see" clonezilla in a VM, upgrade your ubuntu to supported please
[17:54] <solofight> if i encrypt my home folder - later when i connect my hard disk as a external to another machine - can i decrypt the home folder with my password ??? or do i need a running ubuntu os to do it ?
[17:54] <daftykins> k-joseph: right but you can't "sudo -s" from the first created account?
[17:54] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:55] <iptable> solofight: you will need a running linux to do it. or at least some kind of softwaer that understands the encryption you will be using.
[17:55] <daftykins> k-joseph: also, never run "sudo su" it's not correct practice
[17:55] <razor_> how 2 exit the chalnel
[17:55] <phunyguy> razor_: /part
[17:55] <razor_> somebdy please ttell me
[17:55] <solofight> iptable: so which software understands ecryptfs ?
[17:55] <razor_> ty phunyguy
[17:55] <iptable> solofight: well, ecryptfs.
[17:55] <k-joseph> daftykins: oh, i never knew that before, what is the danger of that
[17:56] <cyclist_2> iptable: so that I make double clear: my aim is not to clone any of my virtual machines; I use them to run the Clonezilla iso as a live CD for testing purpposes **only**; if at leat Clonezilla worked, I would done the next step and attempted to clone my real hard drive with a live CD or a live USB; but until I see Clonezilla working in my Vmachines likee in those videos, I am uncertain to try to do the "real" thing: It would take a long tim
[17:56] <Beldar> cyclist_2, I believe this live disc has clonezilla on it. http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/
[17:56] <iptable> solofight: http://superuser.com/questions/667902/mount-ecryptfs-volume-on-windows
[17:56] <addiks> hi, i have a question about this: [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/kernel]. What is meant with "latest mainline kernel"? The latest branch (v3.13) or daily?
[17:56] <daftykins> k-joseph: just have a read of sudo's man page regarding -s sometime
[17:57] <iptable> cyclist_2: install a newer version of ubuntu, one that is supported. that's that.
[17:57] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:57] <Beldar> cyclist_2, One of the rescue discs does, and it runs in ram.
[17:57] <iptable> cyclist_2: or use dd to clone.
[17:57] <k-joseph> daftykins: thanks, i will do that
[17:57] <solofight> ok thank you iptable
[17:57] <cyclist_2> Beldar: I already downloaded all 5 variants from Clonezilla own website; if those do not work, I doubt any other would...
[17:58] <Beldar> cyclist_2, You have a black and white thinking process, you are coming to conclusions without and real empirical data, just saying. ;)
[17:59] <Beldar> any*
[17:59] <rostam> iptable, cyclist_2  I am also interested to clone an installed image for production. Is Clonezilla good enough to do this? please advise, thansks
[17:59] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:59] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:59] <govbnst> hi how is linux whit APUs i am thinking buying a10-7850 and r9 280x and use a10-for noraml use and r 280x for mining coins same time is it posiible? anyone
[17:59] <FloodBot1> govbnst: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <iptable> rostam: clonezilla does a reasonable job. dd does a proper low-level job
[18:00] <Beldar> cyclist_2, You are convinced clonezilla should run, has not obviously, you might consider it will not for example.
[18:00] <cyclist_2> Beldar: all right! I will give it a try; but I am not holding my breath; this will take a while, but I will be back
[18:00] <Beldar> ;)
[18:00]  * iptable goes get a life
[18:00] <worm`> Hi, I want to run a graphical application from the command line, here is the script I wrote: https://paste8.com/4XQiHrXZ - it's Ubuntu Server 12.04 + Unity. What I get is an error from xhost "unable to open display :0" and from the graphical application I want to use (Sikuli) "Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.". I've tried using DISPLAY:=1 as I use this number when connecting with a VNC client but it doesn't wo
[18:00] <worm`> rk either...
[18:01]  * Beldar thinks the scientific method is needed
[18:02] <whoever> iptable: ok, figured out why shotcyt keys wort working. in 13.04 before releaseing they made a quick fix that requred a logou/login every time you added a custom keyboard shortcut for it to take effect
[18:02] <cyclist_2> rostam: based on what I saw in those video tutorials, the program is really good; my problem is that it's not working on my VBox [when it should], so I cannot say more than "watch the video tutorials and decide for yourself"; hope it helps; by the way: do you like the links to those video tutorials? just ask me
[18:03] <rostam> cyclist_2,  iptable,  my understanding is the installed image has mac address specific to that system. So how dd or clonezilla could avoid this issue?
[18:04] <linziyi> hi!
[18:05] <linziyi> just want to ask a question
[18:05] <linziyi> how to install ubuntu without CD or USB?
[18:05] <wollie88> you dont
[18:05] <Beldar> linziyi, If you have grub you can boot an iso from the grub menu.
[18:06] <linziyi> I don't have grub2
[18:06] <glitsj16> worm`: is X running?
[18:06] <linziyi> I suppose grub does not support that feature?
[18:06] <Beldar> linziyi, grub legacy? What OS's are there now?
[18:07] <linziyi> gentoo
[18:07] <linziyi> and that's it
[18:07] <Beldar> linziyi, I have only seen wiki's for a grub2 iso boot, also be sure to use nicks here you can tab complete them.
[18:07] <cyclist_2> rostam: from what I have seen, Clonezilla works with all major OSs, including Macs
[18:08] <addiks__> linziyi: is it an EFI computer? If so, you could try installing rEFInd, writing the iso in its own partition (as data, not as file) and boot that partition using rEFInd.
[18:08] <linziyi> Beldar: I used to do it with simply
[18:08] <linziyi> kernel /vmlinuz
[18:08] <linziyi> initrd /initrd.xz
[18:09] <linziyi> that seemed to work until the newer versions of ubuntu
[18:09] <llutz> linziyi: use debootstrap
[18:09] <worm`> glitsj16, I think so: https://paste8.com/HvhlT6vO
[18:10] <Beldar> linziyi, Do you have any tools like a live disc of something to fix any problems that might arise?
[18:10] <linziyi> i have puppy linux
[18:11] <linziyi> thanks llutz I am looking into it!
[18:11] <WACOMalt> found my issue. ehcp had a config for a domain, the log folder for it was missing
[18:11] <Beldar> linziyi, Cool, puppy could fix any grub issue that happen.
[18:11] <worm`> glitsj16, maybe you prefer this check: https://paste8.com/0OhcBmfB
[18:12] <linziyi> I am installing ubuntu just for the android adb...
[18:12] <glitsj16> worm`: these days you use lightdm (or gdm, kdm) to start X, so i'd try to kill what's there but unreachable with "sudo killall X" and then "sudo service lightdm start"
[18:12] <Beldar> linziyi, Could you use a virtual maybe?
[18:13] <linziyi> too much of a mess trying to do that in gentoo I afraid
[18:13] <linziyi> The emulator things get everying scramble up (espcially the dependencies) in gentoo Beldar
[18:14] <Beldar> linziyi, Heh, understandable, I assume you built the gentoo, so you would know.
[18:15] <linziyi> so how do people install ubuntu nowadays, use unetbootin in windows?
[18:15] <Beldar> linziyi, Some do, there are handfulls of usb loaders that are windows and or linux compatible.
[18:16] <Beldar> and apple
[18:18] <worm`> glitsj16, what do I kill precisely? because it says "X: no such process"
[18:18] <craigbass1976> In XP, I can set some Java options in Control Panel.  Where is something that looks anything like that in Ubuntu?  I'm using Sun java, not open java
[18:19] <daftykins> craigbass1976: there's probably some documentation on Oracle's site about that
[18:19] <glitsj16> worm`: nothing, X wasn't running if you get that, proceed with "sudo service lightdm start" and then test your script
[18:20] <worm`> glitsj16, alright but "start: Job is already running: lightdm"
[18:20] <esgone> Hi
[18:20] <hesiodo> hi
[18:20] <glitsj16> worm´: try restart
[18:20] <hesiodo> and Hi
[18:23] <craigbass1976> daftykins, nope -- google was easier.  I didn't know what it was called though.
[18:24] <daftykins> craigbass1976: what was the answer in the end? web-based config tools alone, or?
[18:24] <worm`> glitsj16, I did but I get "No protocol specified
[18:24] <worm`> " followed by "xhost: unable to open display :0" when executing my script (i.e. https://paste8.com/4XQiHrXZ)
[18:26] <worm`> does it matter I run everything from a root tty? because that's what I do
[18:27] <glitsj16> worm`: ahh, not a good idea to try to start X as root no
[18:28] <glitsj16> worm`: now your regular users ~/.Xauthority file is probably owned by root, check that
[18:29] <amed> i can't mount automatically a ext4 partition, I use 13.10
[18:29] <evilbug> if i shove in an extra gb of ram (for a total of 2gb) and an ssd in my eeepc1000 how much more responsive do you think it'll be?
[18:29] <WeirdEnthusiast> I'm trying to set up a rails server.
[18:30] <WeirdEnthusiast> How's ubuntu for my virtual machine?
[18:30] <WeirdEnthusiast> Presently, I use an Arch based distro.
[18:30] <evilbug> ubuntu's dope.
[18:30] <glitsj16> worm`: what does "ls -la ~/.Xauthority" give you?
[18:30] <WeirdEnthusiast> I love it. Not too sure bout using arch as a web server..
[18:30] <amed> anybody?
[18:30] <gregf_> hello, is there someway to fix this issue manually please: openssh-server : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.16) but 2.15-0ubuntu20.2 is to be installed
[18:30] <WeirdEnthusiast> evilbug, Yes. I've heard a lot bout it. But it's just hearsay..
[18:31] <cyclist_2> Beldar: I am back; here it is: the Ubuntu Rescue Remix iso ***does*** load [unlike Clonezilla] and ***does*** work; alas, it is command line only and I would have to learn to use those tools first; another thing is that Clonezilla is not included; here is their list: GNU ddrescue, Photorec, The Sleuth Kit and Gnu-fdisk.  Packages new to  the Rescue Remix include aoetools, array-info, ext3-grep, gptsync,  kpartx, and scrounge-ntfs. But your
[18:31] <gregf_> i can fix the deps manually rather than depending on the repo's :/
[18:31] <worm`> glitsj16, yes I got /root/.Xauthority I need to append an entry for my regular user right?
[18:31] <WeirdEnthusiast> So I'm here to ask y'all. Cuz you guys use it day in and day out!
[18:31] <WeirdEnthusiast> :3
[18:32] <WeirdEnthusiast> evilbug, So ubuntu or some light weight derivative of it? o.o
[18:32] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: i actually don't use it in and out but i'm looking to set up a dedicated dev computer with ubuntu as the main os. since it's one of the most popular distros you're pretty safe in terms of software and hardware compatibility.
[18:32] <glitsj16> worm`: check if your regular user still owns his .Xauthority file and remove the one for root
[18:32] <conroe> sooo, anyone done a clean install of xorg/gnome/lightdm on -server *without* the spyware-ridden parts of unity and *-accounts?
[18:32] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: yeah. i prefer xubuntu myself since it's still a full featured de but much lighter than unity (which i f-ing hate).
[18:33] <WeirdEnthusiast> evilbug, Interesting. I won't get arch only cuz it's way too bleeding edge for my needs. As a server which is..
[18:33] <worm`> glitsj16, there is no .Xauthority for my regular user I'm afraid
[18:33] <Beldar> cyclist_2, Ah, I forget all of the repair discs out there but there is one that has clonezilla on board this one as I remember runs in ram, you can remove the boot media
[18:33] <WeirdEnthusiast> Haha. Word.
[18:33] <WeirdEnthusiast> I did not like it too.
[18:33] <WeirdEnthusiast> ;D
[18:33] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: you can't go wrong with ubuntu. some people prefer fedora as well since it's spawned from red hat.
[18:34] <glitsj16> worm`: well, copy the one from root to the user /home and make him own it, use the chown command
[18:34] <cpd> ???
[18:34] <cpd> ???
[18:35] <glitsj16> worm`: sudo chown $USER:$USER $HOME/.Xauthority
[18:36] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: my only gripe with linux (or any other oss for that matter) is that the look isn't as polished as mac os :D
[18:36] <rcrobot> Hey guys. I'm having a really frustrating time getting Dota 2 to work. Every time I try to load the second tutorial level, the game freezes up on the loading screen and I can't click anything.
[18:36] <cyclist_2> Beldar: that's my intention now: to find another rescue program like Clonezilla, be it on its own or included with others; I will still poke around for a more technical answer as to why Clonezilla has been the only iso file I could not make work with VBox; thank you, again; bye!
[18:37] <bugtraq_> e ae tem mulher ai?:3  shauhsuhs
[18:37] <WeirdEnthusiast> evilbug, Haha
[18:37] <WeirdEnthusiast> Try the Cairo dock.
[18:37] <WeirdEnthusiast> I love it.
[18:37] <worm`> glitsj16, done, but running $sudo service lightdm start; returns "Sorry, user <myuser> is not allowed to execute '/usr/sbin/service lightdm start' as root on <myhost>."
[18:38] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: i know what you're talking about but there's still not that polish i'm talking about.
[18:38] <glitsj16> worm`: is the regular user in the sudoers?
[18:38] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: i was thinking in the meantime before i actually get a new machine i'll design a whole gui.
[18:38] <WeirdEnthusiast> No sir.  I'm sure you'll make a smexy looking desktop D:
[18:40] <WeirdEnthusiast> wollie88, Why do you put posters in your room?
[18:40] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[18:41] <wollie88> i dont
[18:41] <WeirdEnthusiast> You're too perfect to understand then.
[18:41] <WeirdEnthusiast> :l
[18:41] <worm`> glitsj16, no, I believe I have to create a file in /etc/sudoers.d but I don't know the syntax yet
[18:41] <wollie88> it was a joke
[18:41] <evilbug> WeirdEnthusiast: i'll try. i need to test out some concepts since linux renders the gui a bit different as well.
[18:41] <Wiz_KeeD> If I have a separate hard-drive that's ntfs format, and I download torrents or set dropbox on it in Ubuntu, when I first boot it doesn't find the location, almost like it's mounted by a different name
[18:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Does anyone know about that and workarounds?
[18:41] <evilbug> wollie88: hater!
[18:41] <wollie88> i dont hate apple
[18:41] <Wiz_KeeD> My main hdd is ssd and I don't want to store big stuff on my ssd
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> wollie88 has moral boners for macs?
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> :l
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> There there..
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> :P
[18:42] <wollie88> i just think their macs are overpriced thats all
[18:42] <glitsj16> worm`: are you still running in root terminal? if so, try from a non-root one.. i've got to go prepare dinner so i'll be afk .. ask the channel for help on that, hope you get things up
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> wollie88, Well.
[18:42] <WeirdEnthusiast> I like apple.
[18:43] <wollie88> i use an iphone
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> Red. Fresh. And tasty.
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> D:
[18:43] <wollie88> so im not a complete apple hater
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> Heh. I got a 4s too..
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> Speaking of which.
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> Did you update to iOS 7?
[18:43] <wollie88> yes
[18:43] <FiremanEd> !ot
[18:43] <WeirdEnthusiast> Wow. me too..
[18:43] <evilbug> wollie88: maybe not overpriced, personally i feel the premium one pays is overall better than getting a windows machine for some tasks.
[18:43] <wollie88> and its working perfect
[18:44] <WeirdEnthusiast> FiremanEd, Sure. ^_^
[18:44] <worm`> glitsj16, alright, thank you
[18:44] <wollie88> everything is better than windows
[18:44] <glitsj16> worm`: you'll need to use visudo--> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[18:44] <WeirdEnthusiast> Haha agreed.
[18:45] <WeirdEnthusiast> Trying to play with open source on Windows, is like having yourself raped by an 8 year old.
[18:45] <wollie88> osx is nice but it just doesnt give me the freedom i want
[18:45] <WeirdEnthusiast> lol
[18:45] <wollie88> :D
[18:45] <evilbug> wollie88: for a better example i'd rather get a mac for working with audio since so many audio cards and devices are instantly recognized and coreaudio is a much better engine than asio or whatever else windows does.
[18:45] <WeirdEnthusiast> Brb.
[18:45] <glitsj16> worm`: no trouble, the channel is here if you get into any roadblocks, goodluck
[18:45] <wollie88> for audio i say mac all the way
[18:46] <craigbass1976> daftykins, it was called java control panel.  Something that comes with java and it appears to work better on 6 than 7...  The 7 config tool doesn't seem to know what to do...
[18:46] <Beldar> wollie88, Could you use #ubuntu-offtopic for non support conversations?
[18:46] <evilbug> wollie88: but i'm looking to set up an ubuntu tower for development and a bit of windows on the side for gaming and ie testing.
[18:47] <jam_rock> recently installed ubuntu 13.10 which went ok except the wireless. its says connected but i cant connect to the wi-fi. i welcome all suggestions
[18:49] <Beldar> jam_rock, Details rule here, run lspci in the terminal, identify the wifi hardware and include this at the least in your inquiries and any other pertinent infos
[18:50] <bugtraq_> :3
[18:50] <conroe> will btrfs work as root fs?
[18:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Anyone has this issue?
[18:51] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: which issue is that? :)
[18:51] <Wiz_KeeD> If I have a separate hard-drive that's ntfs format, and I download torrents or set dropbox on it in Ubuntu, when I first boot it doesn't find the location, almost like it's mounted by a different name
[18:51] <Doug__> uhuuu vem ni mim delicia :3
[18:52] <Wiz_KeeD> My main hdd is ssd and I don't want to store big stuff on my ssd
[18:52] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: how are you mounting this NTFS drive?
[18:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Does anyone know about that and workarounds?
[18:52] <Wiz_KeeD> daftykins, it's automatically detected by the OS
[18:52] <Wiz_KeeD> IT's a separate hard-drive in a hdd-caddy (I am so proud of that :X)
[18:52] <Doug__> print "hello world :3"
[18:52] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: ok well i'd first like to say it's nasty writing to an NTFS drive, second, permanently mounting it within the /etc/fstab file based on the disk's UUID would probably be saner
[18:53] <Wiz_KeeD> ok now we're geting somehwere, I had no idea
[18:53] <Beldar> Doug__, This is support, do you need that?
[18:53] <Wiz_KeeD> So what is the best way to proceed, format to ext4 and use win ext4 drivers to access the partition?
[18:53] <Wiz_KeeD> and mount it permanently? I never knew you can do that
[18:53] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: what's the scenario? you reboot into Windows or take the drive to another system that's Windows to read from?
[18:54] <vlad_starkov> Question: How to disable udev upstart script in Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[18:56] <rcrobot> Can someone please help me get Dota 2 running smoothly in 12.04?
[18:56] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: basically, is this NTFS drive *always* attached when you boot the OS?
[18:56] <sere> []=]]
[18:57] <Wiz_KeeD> daftykins, yes it is, it's in the hdd-caddy and boots everytime
[18:57] <Wiz_KeeD> And the only reason I formatted it to NTFS was that I could use it for storage from Ubuntu as well as Windows
[18:58] <MraMaria> hi. what's the name of the ppa to connect PDAs to Ubuntu?
[18:58] <oconnore> hey, does anyone here use an apple keyboard with their laptop? I want to swap alt <-> command but preserve my laptop keyboard layout.
[18:58] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: if you run "sudo blkid" in a terminal it'll give you the UUIDs of your disks. if you edit /etc/fstab to permanently mount your caddy disk to say /media/caddy it'll always be at that path on boot
[18:58] <oconnore> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard#Correcting_swapped_keys_and_wrong_keymaps_for_international_.28non-US.29_keyboards
[18:58] <oconnore> ^ I have applied the fn-key fix here
[18:59] <Wiz_KeeD> so my initial hunch was correct, it has a different path when booting
[18:59] <Wiz_KeeD> let me check
[18:59] <bekks> Dont use /media for fstab mounts, since /media is used by the automounter.
[18:59] <oconnore> but the alt <-> command swap is still bugging me.
[18:59] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: well i'm only guessing that might be what's happening
[18:59] <Wiz_KeeD> /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Caddy" UUID="51DDB6994E6674F0" TYPE="ntfs"
[19:00] <Wiz_KeeD> ok now I put the UUID
[19:00] <conroe> anyone using btrfs?
[19:00] <Wiz_KeeD> without quotes
[19:00] <daftykins> bekks: roger that, what's the alternate best practice? any standards emerging?
[19:01] <Wiz_KeeD> options, dump, pass?
[19:01] <bekks> daftykins: Just use /mnt/yourchoice for manual mounts.
[19:01] <daftykins> i was aware of that part but i don't consider it to have any downsides if you name it differently enough
[19:01] <demophobia> is it already known that libreoffice doesn't work with HUD?
[19:01] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: so put it in /mnt/caddy instead (make sure you create the folder /mnt/caddy too), you can put "0 0" in, no need for those 3 parameters
[19:02] <JaneDoe> Hello what is ? (found in boot log)
[19:02] <bekks> demophobia: What do you mean by "doesnt work"?
[19:02] <xangua> demophobia: what ubuntu release¿
[19:02] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: actually silly me, you will need some options hang on
[19:02] <Wiz_KeeD> create first, got it, root permission i assume
[19:02] <Wiz_KeeD> there's nothing in mnt
[19:02] <Wiz_KeeD> right now
[19:02] <Wiz_KeeD> strange
[19:02] <demophobia> 12.04, i tapped alt to open it up and typed 'close' anticipating pulling up the 'close' option from the file menu; instead it went to Messages, some other program
[19:03] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: no that's normal, it'll be empty
[19:03] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Then create a directory in /mnt/ and mount your ntfs filesystem at that mountpoint.
[19:03] <Wiz_KeeD> never done this before, so taking it slow
[19:03] <xangua> demophobia: in precise you need to install the lo-menubar package, notice that if you have the libreoffice PPA this packages won't be compatible with it
[19:03] <Wiz_KeeD> created a new dir with sudo named caddy
[19:03] <xangua> !info lo-menubar precise | demophobia
[19:03] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: so the line may appear as "UUID=blah /mnt/caddy ntfs rw,user 0 0"
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> now back to fstab UUID=51DDB6994E6674F0 /mnt/caddy ntfs
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> rw user 0 0?
[19:04] <worm`> how do I specify a service command in /etc/sudoers? I always get syntax error with something like this: myuser  ALL = NOPASSWD: service lightdm *
[19:04] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: yep, with the comma though
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> how so? nothing in fstab has comma
[19:04] <bekks> worm`: you cant specify a command with options. All that sudo is applied on is the command itself.
[19:04] <daftykins> yes it does
[19:04] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: it's because we want multiple options in the options field
[19:05] <Wiz_KeeD> ahh okay okay makes sense
[19:05] <bekks> worm`: You could create a workaround: create a root script which executes the service lightdm * stuff, and create a sudo permission for that single script.
[19:05] <Wiz_KeeD> no space between comma I see
[19:05] <Wiz_KeeD> so what are those options more exactly daftykins ?
[19:05] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: yep, i'd read up on them with the man pages for fstab as they'll explain better
[19:06] <daftykins> ultimately read+write permissions, allow 'user' to mount
[19:07] <Wiz_KeeD> ahhh yes I see now
[19:07] <Wiz_KeeD> ok, great!
[19:07] <Wiz_KeeD> save and reboot?
[19:07] <worm`> bekks, ok then which one should I specify /usr/bin/service or /usr/sbin/service or /usr/bin/X11/service
[19:07] <bekks> worm`: run "which service" to see which "service" executable is being called.
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo mount -a
[19:08] <dbrom> hello all
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> brb
[19:10] <worm`> bekks, thank you it worked
[19:10] <Rallias> How would I go about converting an h265 video file to h264?
[19:12] <Wiz_KeeD> daftykins, I think it has worked! :D
[19:13] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll reboot after Dropbox does the sync and see but it looks really good
[19:13] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you very much daftykins!
[19:13] <dbrom> have a question on getting my wireless card working.... kubuntu isnt able to answer
[19:13] <MraMaria> What is the package name that makes possible to recognize a PDA (in this case a Win Mobile) and handle its data?
[19:14] <MraMaria> ppa.launchpad.net/synce/ seems a bit outdated
[19:15] <worm`> My initial problem isn't solved though : https://paste8.com/6CNQgS0V, even when I run "sudo service lightdm start" under my non-root user.
[19:19] <k-joseph> hi guys,
[19:20] <oddeofreq> i am having trouble opening Firefox
[19:20] <Beldar> dbrom, Let the channel know the wifi hardware, it will show if you run lspci in the terminal.
[19:21] <oddeofreq> when i open it, it will not do anything
[19:21] <oddeofreq> i also cannot download software from the software center.
[19:21] <Beldar> oddeofreq, run it from the terminal firefox and look for errors.
[19:21] <anew> ip route add yourhomeip/32 via <IP_ADDRESS> sometimes this route is getting deleted from  my server, i have no idea why
[19:21] <anew> anyway to prevent this
[19:21] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: glad i could help :)
[19:22] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Try to keep to one issue at at time.
[19:22] <Wiz_KeeD> I can't believe it was so easy, and now torrents won't say they "cannot find source" when I download to the caddy
[19:22] <Beldar> a*
[19:22] <Wiz_KeeD> just reboot and they start back from where they left off :X
[19:22] <Wiz_KeeD> YAY!
[19:23] <k-joseph> am back, i previously run $sudo passwd -l username on my pc which locked my main account, am now trying to recover this and am not yet successful, i have tried booting into recovery mode and falling into the root shell, run sudo mkdir /mnt/dir and failed with a read only error
[19:23] <oddeofreq> ok.   it says no room
[19:23] <Beldar> !details | oddeofreq
[19:24] <k-joseph> however am now on a live cd of minti
[19:24] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Two issues here that are very important, details and using the nick of who you are talking to, you can tab complete nicks.
[19:24] <sruz25> I'm trying to wget urls in file, one per line, but when I do cat file | while read x; do wget $x;done it always tries to download url%0D instead of just url, when I replace whet with echo, there is nothing odd to bee seen, just my url. Any ideas?
[19:25] <oddeofreq> Beldar i have a problem with runining my Firefox.  I am running Ubuntu studio 13.10.  wheni run it nothing happens.  when i run it in terminal i get a few warnings.
[19:25] <dbrom> Beldr: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150 (rev 67)
[19:25] <dbrom>         Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150 BGN
[19:25] <dbrom>         Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
[19:26] <oddeofreq> i am also running this off a live USB
[19:26] <Wiz_KeeD> daftykins, you said that it's not a good idea to have the drive ntfs so both OS's can access it?
[19:27] <Beldar> dbrom, You can tab complete nicks so there are correct, so to the channel not me include that info with your problem is all.
[19:27] <Wiz_KeeD> Purely for storage purposes as I said
[19:27] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: well it's probably the best scenario for what you want to do
[19:27] <Wiz_KeeD> that's what I wanted to hear :X
[19:28] <Wiz_KeeD> Allthough I could make it ext4 and use the win dirvers to access it
[19:28] <Wiz_KeeD> But I don't know the speed or stability from windows
[19:28] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: exFAT might also be an option
[19:28] <sruz25> nevermind
[19:28] <yebyen> any gnome/trustytahr users?  my ctrl+alt+t stopped working (to bring up a terminal) but it's apparently still bound, and the gnome-terminal app does still work
[19:28] <yebyen> not sure where to look next
[19:28] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: i think how you have it now is better than Windows and ext drivers
[19:28] <Beldar> oddeofreq, You would want to pastebin the errors, is this a persistent usb or just the live session?
[19:28] <Wiz_KeeD> probably, glad I made a good choice
[19:29] <rustuptwist> TJ- You available? got a question about gParted
[19:29] <Wiz_KeeD> next annoying question...anyone knows how I can permanently have my synclient settings set on boot time?
[19:30] <oddeofreq> beldar how do i pastebin if i cant get on the internet.  i also dont know which i am running on.   my goal is to be able to run this version of linux on whatever machine i am on whether it be at home or at work.
[19:30] <yebyen> I think I better create a fresh trustytahr install
[19:31] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Right, however a limited use setup. Do you know what persistent means with the iso load to the usb?
[19:32] <oddeofreq> beldar,  it has been too long for me.  i thought persistant means that i can make changes on the USB while i am live on it.
[19:34] <thoonai> virtualbox-guest-x11 can't be installed due it has unmet dependencies ... any idea how im geetign around that?
[19:34] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Yeah thats right and they will save, however that persistent file can fill up and is not easily cleanable basically. You posted "it says no room" can you give the context of that?
[19:36] <oddeofreq> firefox:6455): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Unable to create ~/.gnome2 directory: No space left on device
[19:36] <oddeofreq> Could not create per-user gnome configuration directory `/home/ubuntu-studio/.gnome2/': No space left on device
[19:37] <Seveas> oddeofreq: so, clean up :)
[19:37] <Wiz_KeeD> in order to have  a "shortcut" for /mnt/caddy/Dropbox and have it in /home/wiz/Dropbox, I need to create a symlink?
[19:37] <oddeofreq> Seveas, How do i clean up?
[19:38] <Beldar> oddeofreq, How big is the usb flash, how many gigs?
[19:38] <oddeofreq> 4
[19:38] <Seveas> oddeofreq: by deleting files...
[19:38] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Use nicks every time, is it persistent?
[19:39] <oddeofreq> beldari thought i set it up to be for up to 518mb
[19:39] <oddeofreq> beldar i thought i did for up to 518 MB
[19:40] <Beldar> oddeofreq, Not really enough, I would reload it and use all of the usb
[19:40] <oddeofreq> cant i partition the rest of the usb and use it?>
[19:40] <oddeofreq> Beldar cant i partition the rest of the usb and use it?
[19:41] <Beldar> oddeofreq, You can have a persistent file or partition yes.
[19:41] <oddeofreq> oh i think i know what you are saying.    in that case i will just remake the usb for the whole size of the dribe
[19:41] <oddeofreq> *drive
[19:42] <oddeofreq> see you all on the other side!
[19:50] <thoonai> i found the solution: apt-get install xserver-xorg-core removed my desktop :/
[19:50] <thoonai> sometimes I just suck
[19:50] <thoonai> so I leave it for today
[19:54] <cyclist_2> Beldar: I had to be back again just to let you know how well your advice worked for me; while searching for alternatives to Clonezilla at http://alternativeto.net/software/clonezilla/ I found this ***free*** gem of software: Redo Backup and Recovery at http://alternativeto.net/software/redo-backup-and-recovery/about/. The file size is almost double of that of Clonezilla, but at 250 MB it is not too large; I used it exactly how I was ***tryi
[19:54] <Beldar> cyclist_2, Cool.
[19:55] <k-joseph> hi guys, fixed the problem., i mean ressolving from after running sudo passwd -l username,
[19:55] <k-joseph> :)
[19:56] <daftykins> good good, what did you do? chroot?
[19:56] <xxx123> has anyone got guild wars 2 to run on ubuntu?
[19:58] <k-joseph> daftykins: that is right, i did that on a liveCd
[19:59] <k-joseph> hey, this is a cool platform of mess up and fix whether intended or unintended
[20:04] <worm`> Has anyone ever managed to start a GUI app from a tty outside X? Here are the details of my problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/411728/starting-a-x11-gui-application-sikuli-from-command-line
[20:05] <yebyen> sure, works for me
[20:05] <yebyen> i don't think you need xhost +localhost:
[20:06] <yebyen> you don't have permission to access lightdm's x server anyway
[20:06] <yebyen> so xhost + will fail
[20:06] <yebyen> you could startx -- :1 to get your own x server
[20:06] <yebyen> then xhost + would be unnecessary, just DISPLAY=:1
[20:07] <yebyen> worm`: you can see xhost: unable to open
[20:07] <yebyen> it's not getting permissions because it doesn't have permissions (to begin with)
[20:09] <worm`> yebyen, I tried with DISPLAY:=1 and startx -- :1 in the script but I get X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[20:09] <worm`> and some other errors messages referring to MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE
[20:11] <yebyen> worm`: your cron script won't be able to startx
[20:12] <yebyen> unless you decrease some of the restrictions on that stuff
[20:13] <yebyen> i don't remember which package needs to be dpkg-reconfigured
[20:13] <yebyen> but something has an option for three levels of restrictedness
[20:13] <yebyen> and the one you currently have set is probably "anyone with a real tty"
[20:13] <yebyen> which excludes cron user, etc
[20:14] <worm`> yebyen, I just remember having installed the ubuntu-desktop package
[20:14] <yebyen> so, start with a real tty, logged in from getty
[20:14] <yebyen> do startx :1
[20:15] <yebyen> and work backwards from there, once your script works from cron as that user
[20:15] <yebyen> (with the x server already running)
[20:15] <yebyen> it might be xserver-xorg or xserver-xorg-core
[20:15] <yebyen> could be xinit
[20:15] <holmser> I have a bit of an issue here, and I was hoping to get some input.  I have a "root" account that I need to secure.  Currently we are using ssh cert based authentication
[20:16] <worm`> I'm not familiar with getty, I connect to my server using ssh or a VNC client if I want the GUI
[20:16] <yebyen> doesn't seem to be any of those
[20:16] <yebyen> when you ctrl+alt+f1, you're at a getty login
[20:16] <yebyen> from the actual physical console
[20:16] <yebyen> if you don't have console access, there's a setting you need to change to enable you to start an x server
[20:17] <holmser> Basically our password policy dictates that passwords need to change every 60 days, so they want me to change the key every 60 days.
[20:17] <worm`> yes I remember from the days I used ubuntu on my personal desktop but this is a VM
[20:17] <worm`> which I can only reach using ssh/vnc
[20:17] <yebyen> so, you need to find that setting, first
[20:17] <holmser> what are the best practices for rotating ssh keys?
[20:18] <_spm_Draget> Is there some release-plan for 14.04? I.e. when the kernel is settled, when the last features-patches may be subitted etc.?
[20:18] <daftykins> _spm_Draget: #ubuntu+1 for future release talk
[20:19] <yebyen> worm`: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[20:20] <worm`> yebyen, I can get the physical console access through VMWare I suppose, would that be easier?
[20:20] <yebyen> worm`: nope, just change it to "Anybody" from "Console Users Only"
[20:20] <worm`> how is it different from logging in through ssh?
[20:20] <rustuptwist> ANYthoughts on who this machine would run with Ubuntu installed Acer Aspire 3000 (http://www.engadget.com/products/acer/aspire/3000/specs/)
[20:20] <worm`> alright I'm trying
[20:20] <yebyen> worm`: that should help... at least you'll be able to startx
[20:21] <karolus1> buenas noches
[20:22] <yebyen> I don't know how it knows if you're logged in from console or not, presumably you have TTY=/dev/pts/* rather than /dev/ttyS* when you come in from ssh
[20:27] <worm`> yebyen, the script is able to use startx now but that's it: https://paste8.com/kwqBqeCJ
[20:28] <manny0080> hey i need installing mac os  in windows in Vbox
[20:28] <manny0080> i need help
[20:29] <worm`> yebyen, ah I might get it: I'm not supposed to see the Sikuli launching messages anymore
[20:29] <yebyen> so it does launch OK, you mean?
[20:29] <manny0080> can somebody please help
[20:29] <yebyen> manny0080: you're in #ubuntu, what does this have to do with macos or windows
[20:30] <manny0080> im using windows 7
[20:30] <yebyen> and you want to run MacOS in a VM... so you come to #ubuntu?
[20:30] <manny0080> n i have ubuntu
[20:30] <mnemon> manny0080: so go to #windows ?
[20:30] <manny0080> yea in virtualbox
[20:31] <yebyen> worm`: hope it works for you
[20:31] <holmser> manny0080: google is your friend
[20:31] <manny0080> i did that n im getting an error
[20:32] <rustuptwist> i have what appears to me to be 4 partitions on the win7 laptop that I want to install Ubuntu. How can i prepare/modify for Ubuntu?
[20:33] <mnemon> rustuptwist: you want dualboot?
[20:33] <rustuptwist> mnemon: yes
[20:33] <mnemon> rustuptwist: shrink one of the partitions to make space for ubuntu
[20:33] <worm`> yebyen, my last c/p was what I got before I try to hit CTRL+C
[20:34] <rustuptwist> mnemon:  i need help in doing it correctly. the last time i tried i caused some problems, making more than 4 partitions. Can you help direct me a bit?
[20:34] <worm`> yebyen, and when I do hit CTRL+C here's what I get https://paste8.com/CJd1RJyZ so I suppose it's not working yet :/
[20:35] <sudonoob> Hi can someone please help? I have installed 13.1 and have blank dash. Tried suggestions online to no avail. Can I get assistance please? Thanks
[20:35] <worm`> by the way I had set the DISPLAY on :2 because :1 is used for xVNC
[20:36] <mnemon> rustuptwist: are all of the paritions primary?
[20:36] <mnemon> rustuptwist: if they are, you need to format one of those for ubuntu or use a different hdd :P
[20:37] <rustuptwist> mnemon:  not to sure im more experieced with macs. i have the following: system 198mb ntfs, C: 279.37GB ntfs, Recovery D: 14.56gb ntfs, HP TOOLS E:
[20:37] <rustuptwist> *HP Tools 3.97gb FAT
[20:38] <mnemon> rustuptwist: doesn't really tell if they're primary or ot but it's likely that you will need to use one of those partitions
[20:39] <zykotick9> mnemon: they're primary ;)  this is the OEM method to prevent gnu/linux installs...  rustuptwist best of luck.
[20:40] <mnemon> rustuptwist: if you have the windows install/recovery disks you could probably delete the recovery partition, shrink the C and use the free space for ubuntu
[20:40] <sudonoob> I have tried install compiz settings, dist-upgrade, update reset-f/org and also tried to use ccsm, but it doesn't allow me to enable Unity Plugin
[20:40] <mnemon> that is, deleting the recovery partition will prevent you from reinstalling windows unless you have the recovery and/or install  disks
[20:41] <rustuptwist> mnemon: i dont have any 'HP branded' recovery discs. I made some kind of service disc the other day via the computer itself. NOt sure if that will suffice
[20:42] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Hiya ... you want me to deal with it? I seem to have some experience :)
[20:42] <mnemon> guess they'd rather have you buy a new pc than burn a few install discs to go with the pc these days when your hdd pops :/
[20:42] <rustuptwist> mnemon: recovery disc is marked (D:) 14.56gb
[20:43] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  yeah that might help. Especially since i did something way wrong the last time. :)
[20:43] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Is this the same laptop we converted last week, re-imaged from scratch?
[20:43] <mnemon> rustuptwist: yes, so you could delete it, shrink the C to make some more room(installing ubuntu in 15GB ain't prolly a good idea ..)
[20:43] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  NO Way! that one is up and running Ubuntu (edubuntu) 12.04.03 as we speak
[20:44] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Yay! So how many are you converting!? As I recall you'd already done one for son #1, and the one we did was for son #2 ... I hope you haven't got 10 sons!
[20:44] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  I do have 8 children but, no this is for my daughter. This will be the last since my ex-wife has the other 4 with her :(
[20:45] <mnemon> well, i'm off but TJ- seems to have the things in hand :) Best of luck with the project rustuptwist
[20:45] <rustuptwist> mnemon: thanks though
[20:45] <sudonoob> Anyone?
[20:45] <sudonoob> :)
[20:45] <jcrza> Hey guys. Is there an easy way to set up a RAID with the ubuntu installer?
[20:45] <TJ-> mnemon: We had to do a complicated dance saving the contents of 1 primary to the top of unused space on the drive, in order to convert to Extended :)
[20:45] <jcrza> I'm not super tech savvy when it comes to this stuff, I just know I want to ahve one drive mirror the other in-case something crashes.
[20:45] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  this is an HP Pavilion 2000 running win7. I have not touched any of the drives/partitions
[20:46] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  trying to avoid that dance again, lol
[20:46] <TJ-> rustuptwist: OK ... Have you got the PC started using the Live ISO image in the "Try Ubuntu" mode?
[20:46] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Let's hope we can do it in 30 minutes not 30 hours :)
[20:47] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  no it is still in Windows. When we put the LIveCD in it does pretty much what the other (compaq) did. Only offer Ubuntu 'inside' windows.
[20:47] <Guest7143> salve
[20:47] <Guest7143> !list
[20:49] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  should I boot it from the LiveCD now?
[20:53] <rustuptwist> TJ-: ???
[20:53] <sudonoob> Anyone free to help me at all?
[20:54] <phunyguy> sudonoob: just ask your question, bud
[20:54] <phunyguy> :)
[20:54] <sudonoob> I have the dreaded blank dash in 13.1 and have tried all suggestions
[20:55] <TJ-> rustuptwist: sorry, was just getting in some provisions :) Yes ... boot from the LiveCD
[20:55] <demophobia> xangua, but i don't remember installing any PPAs -- am i not using default installation software?
[20:55] <demophobia> why is it not installed if libreoffice is installed?
[20:55] <xangua> demophobia: sudo apt-get install lo-menubar
[20:56] <sudonoob> I have tried install compiz settings, dist-upgrade, update reset-f/org and also tried to use ccsm, but it doesn't allow me to enable Unity Plugin
[20:56] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Is there anything in the C: Windows 279GB partition needs to be kept?
[20:57] <demophobia> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/enable-global-menu-for-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ is it because displacing the menu bar from libreoffice would've upset too many newbies?
[20:57] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  you mean beyond normal win7 stuff? I told my daughter to back all her stuff up to Dropbox. she says she did so...
[20:59] <TJ-> rustuptwist: OK ... Because on this one we have to take a slightly different strategy. Because there are 2 recovery partitions following on from the Windows partition, we have to shrink the current Windows partition to make space, so it makes the dance we did last week a little more complicated (if that is possible) since we can't just make a back-up at the end of the drive
[21:00] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Once you've got it started in "Try Ubuntu" mode, and got to the desktop, please start a Terminal window so we have a command-line shell to work from.
[21:00] <TJ-> rustuptwist: And, tell me if that Ubuntu live environment has Internet connectivity by trying to web-browse to some site
[21:00] <demophobia> well, thanks, xangua
[21:01] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  so are you saying that this will be more complicated (read: a longer process) than the other night/morning?
[21:02] <rcrobot> Hi, can someone help me update my Gigabyte mobo's BIOS?
[21:02] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  so at the Ubuntu screen choose: Try ubuntu or install, or F4 or f6?
[21:02] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Not longer, since you're now practised and know what to expect, but the maths needs to be very accurate to avoid over-writing the pre-installed contents of the disk
[21:03] <TJ-> rustuptwist: "Try Ubuntu"
[21:03] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  so not 30 mins but much longer
[21:04] <TJ-> rustuptwist: If Ubuntu will have Internet connectivity then we can have you use the 'xchat' program directly from the PC, which would make the operation more streamlined since you can copy/paste the instructions
[21:05] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  it can at the very least from my phone, but I am concerned. Why do these web pages make it seem so easy to partition and install Ubuntu? is it because the lpatop in question was manf by HP to thwart Ubuntu installs?
[21:06] <Alu> heya
[21:06] <rcrobot> I need help updating my Gigabyte BIOS. Help?
[21:06] <icewalker> iam try to match as many starting with par1=val&par2=2val2&par3=val3&other=one with regex  ^(.+&)other=one  but doesn't seem to work, any ideas?
[21:07] <TJ-> rustuptwist: The problem is the way HP have partitioned the drives. The Master Boot Record can only hold 4 partitions, and HP have filled all 4 slots, so we have to shuffle things around to make it possible to create an Extended partition on one of those 4 slots
[21:14] <shreezbot> How do I change applications that startup when my machine starts up from the command line?
[21:20] <TJ-> shreezbot: If you mean system services, you'd use "update-rc.d" ... "man update-rc.d"
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> shreezbot  is this useful http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-how-to-add-a-program-as-startup-application-from-terminal-178567.html
[21:22] <kieppie> I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 (fairly experienced user), Gnome Shell 3. I'd like some recommendations for a great alternative file manager. mc is so-so
[21:23] <kieppie> not so keen on nautilus
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> kieppie  here's a fewhttp://www.tuxarena.com/2011/06/20-file-managers-for-ubuntu/
[21:24] <kieppie> thanks MonkeyDust:
[21:26] <shreezbot> TJ-, Yea, when I do update-rc.d on this application, it tells me "System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/<application> already exist."
[21:26] <Fily> Dear friends, I have a problem. I downloaded Virtual Box and Ubuntu 14.04 ISO AMD 64 and attached it on vbox. My laptop cannot support that release. I cannot install it. So I think I cannot test new version... I bought my laptop in 2007.  Gnome commander looks to be best of the crop
[21:27] <shreezbot> TJ-, No, just add one
[21:27] <Rory> Fily: Try the 32 bit version =)
[21:27] <shreezbot> TJ-, Well, I just want the application to start up when I reboot.
[21:28] <TJ-> shreezbot: The "update-rc.d enable $SERVICE" should be sufficient, if the script already exists in "/etc/init.d/"
[21:38] <demophobia> I have encountered a problem since installing lo-menubar for libreoffice: Whereas in other programs I can hold down the alt key to bring up the menu for hotkeys, this appears to not function for Libreoffice
[21:38] <da_police> hi guys, how to recover a reiserfs file remotely? i deleted a file by mistaken.. how to recover it?
[21:38] <demophobia> How can I get the menu bar hotkeys working for LibreOffice while still using the HUD?
[21:38] <demophobia> i wish to use both, not to disable one for the other
[21:39] <da_police> is that possible to do reiserfsck without umount the partition?
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> da_police  not sure if reiserfs is supported here
[21:40] <TJ-> da_police: don't do anything!! ....
[21:40] <da_police> TJ: why?
[21:40] <TJ-> da_police: Was the file you are trying to recover opened by any process at the time you deleted it, and if so, is that process still running?
[21:40] <Azrael84> Hi, anyone know how I can change the driver options for intel when using fglrx? (i.e. AccelMethod)
[21:41] <ct85711> I'm getting a strange error saying destination is read-only on random files, when trying to copy them to a disk within the file manager; even though the mounts is setup for rw;  and moving the file via  command line transfers without an issue
[21:41] <da_police> TJ- no, its gone already, no service using it nor replace it
[21:43] <TJ-> da_police: I was hoping you could grab it from /proc/*/fd/* before it was fully unlinked
[21:44] <TJ-> da_police: just in case, you should do "sudo ls -l /proc/*/fd/* | grep $FILENAME" where FILENAME="<part-of-name-of-deleted-file>"
[21:44] <Hakala> fak
[21:45] <da_police> yes tj, the file is totally deleted already
[21:46] <TJ-> da_police: hmmm, not sure how to proceed then. I'd recommend unmounting the file-system or at least remounting it read-only, and you could investigate whether "photorec" can recover deleted reiserfs files
[21:47] <TJ-> da_police: have you read this? http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/ReiserFS_File_Undelete_HOWTO
[21:48] <da_police> i did tj, the thing is, it said i have to do  single-user.. which i only able to do it remotely (since it need to umount), and it need a big space to mirror the "/var"
[21:48] <Fily> Rory, I tried with the i386 release but i obtained the same result
[21:49] <TJ-> da_police: Well yes, that is generally a requirement, you can't go about recovering lost data from free blocks if the file-system is being written to, those blocks may well get reused
[21:49] <TJ-> da_police: do you not have remote console access via net-KVM or IPMI, or some other console provision ?
[21:49] <jhutchins> Fily: It's not entirely clear what you're trying to do - what OS is on the laptop now?
[21:50] <da_police> TJ: only remote ssh
[21:50] <TJ-> da_police: not much you can do then, if you don't have back-ups
[21:50] <Fily> jhutchins, Ubuntu 11.10. It is supported on my laptop but more dodern release no
[21:51] <jhutchins> /ctc/ da_police version
[21:52] <jhutchins> Fily: Ok, were you able to get vbox installed?
[21:53] <sudonoob> Hi All, anyone free to help now?  Sorry im inpatient, but i did log in at 20.34
[21:53] <jhutchins> sudonoob: It is now 15:53
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> :)
[21:54] <sudonoob> ah so 1.5hrs ago lol
[21:54] <user82> does anyone use intel+nvida gpus which are not in a hybrid mode, but rather in a desktop where you have to change them in the uefi. my 3d graphics breaks with nvidia drivers installed and intel activated
[21:54] <Fily> jhutchins, yes vbox is installed without problem on my laptop
[21:55] <jhutchins> sudonoob: I think your question was unclear.
[21:55] <jhutchins> sudonoob: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:55] <sudonoob> fairenough, my apologies
[21:55] <da_police> jhutchins: its a remote server
[21:55] <sudonoob> No dash  - how do I fix?
[21:55] <sudonoob> I have tried install compiz settings, dist-upgrade, update reset-f/org and also tried to use ccsm, but it doesn't allow me to enable Unity Plugin
[21:56] <da_police> jhutchins: the server is 400miles from me, and im in my hometown now
[21:57] <sudonoob> I am in shell now and tried to Run the suggested actions in shell and terminal. i.e. install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:58] <jcrza> Hey guys. So I just installed my new server and selected Mail server as part of the installation. Can you point me to a good guide on exactly where I need to begin with installing/configuring my own mail server from there?
[21:58] <jcrza> I assume there's still lots to do.
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> jcrza  there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:59] <jcrza> Ah, nice
[21:59] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: What version is this ? show cat /etc/issue .
[22:00] <sudonoob> I have just installed 13.10 over windows, rebooted then no desktop
[22:02] <sudonoob> I downloaded the iso from ubuntu, so must be the correct one. I ran sudo apt-get update, install compizconfig-settings-manager too. I also install unity-scope-home all with a reboot
[22:02] <lowenea> How do I inspect encoding quality of an ogg file? Some files are bad encoded even if they have high bitrate at youtube.
[22:03] <sudonoob> how do i select the person i responded to? thanks
[22:03] <bekks> !tab | sudonoob
[22:03] <ct85711> anyone know why you'd get a "destination read-only" error for random files when transfering them to a different mount
[22:05] <sudonoob> ct85711: as above if you can see it, text moves quick in this room
[22:06] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Look at: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[22:07] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: thanks trying that now... back in a sec
[22:08] <Jordan_U> ct85711: What is the source path? What is the destination path? Please post a screenshot of the error message.
[22:08] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | ct85711
[22:10] <Fily> Dear friends, i'd like to install Xubuntu 13.10 on Virtual Box could you tell me where to download ISO? Thanks
[22:11] <k1l> !xubuntu | Fily
[22:13] <sudonoob> Bashinh-om: I get error: plugin ' 'opengl' not loaded
[22:15] <fyksen_> Hey! I have installed ubuntu 12.04 with xbmc/plex home theater. To get 5.1 surround and DTS support, I had to uninstall pulseaudio, and use alsa. I get sound from plex (with dts and 5.1) but not from browser/spotify. Any tips? :)
[22:15] <jhutchins> Fily: So you have the vbox environment working?
[22:16] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: I get error: plugin ' 'opengl' not loaded (sorry trying out the name responder)
[22:18] <Bashing-om>  sudonoo
[22:18] <Fily> jhutchins, yes it works on my laptop
[22:19] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Pastebin that command and it's return, let me see it in context and maybe I can suggest something.
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> fyksen_  #ubuntu-studio is multimedia dedicated, i guess people there can help better
[22:20] <fyksen_> MonkeyDust, ty! Will try!
[22:20] <jcrza> Is there anything like SquirrelMail that doesn't look like it was created in 1995?
[22:22] <ct85711> ubottu: here's the error message, just a regular attempt to move a file http://imagebin.org/289384, the second file is the attempt via command line http://imagebin.org/289385
[22:23] <ct85711> here's the error message, just a regular attempt to move a file (within the file manager) http://imagebin.org/289384, the second file is the attempt via command line http://imagebin.org/289385
[22:24] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: I get Fatal: Root visual is not a Gl visual
[22:25] <SterniLuigi> ciao
[22:25] <SterniLuigi> !list
[22:25] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | sudonoob
[22:26] <Moyel> anyone who can help with this? I think is involves a problem with X
[22:26] <Moyel> http://dpaste.com/hold/1571956/
[22:30] <sudonoob> I am happy to use the above, but i have nothing other than access to terminal lol
[22:31] <Moyel> there are terminal webbrowsers :)
[22:32] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: I am using laptop for messaging in here, so am copying the commands like for like
[22:32] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Code:sudo apt-get install pastebinit ; example: Code:cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ;Copy and paste the URL from the last command into your next post.
[22:32] <jcrza> I'm looking at replacements for squirrelmail, do any of you use either horde or atmail? Are they secure?
[22:33] <ks> Can I monitor ubuntu system events like CPU, RAM, Network and get notification if load goes up and down. I don't need top, nagios, munin etc, just looking for simple lightweight tool that can be used to report potential overload and report that.
[22:34] <Bashing-om> sudonoob:  For me to assist I must see the command used and the complete return - including the errors. Context.
[22:34] <ks> I want to write system service to report changes in 4 metrics: cpu, ram, disk, net
[22:35] <sudonoob> Bashing-om: I am trying so hopefully i can get you whats needed :)
[22:35] <sudonoob> I appreciate the help
[22:35] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Roger, no sweat, Millions do it, you can too.
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> ks  a tool like conky, maybe?
[22:37] <ks> MonkeyDust: more like libstat + custom logic (thresholds and reporting destination)
[22:38] <ks> MonkeyDust: i don't need front-end for GUI, rather pure data
[22:39] <lowenea> How do I convert a .m4a file to .ogg?
[22:39] <Bashing-om> sudonoob: Hint; Simple usage: command | pastebinit <- once pastebinit is installed.