I am just not too familiar with grub, sorry. Tried to explain what I knew, which isn't much
[12:16] <martamius> im trying to reinstall grub because my fresh windows install wiped it
[12:16] <Tm_T> aah
[12:17] <Tm_T> I see
[12:17] <Tm_T> !grub
[12:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:17] <martamius> and grub-install from live isn't working
[12:17] <Tm_T> ok, how it doesn't work
[12:17] <martamius> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[12:17] <Tm_T> hmm
[12:17] <martamius> when i do sudp grub-install /dev/hda
[12:18] <martamius> from dapper live
[12:18] <martamius> sudo*
[12:18] <CylonSix> Anyone here?
[12:18] <TheHighChild> CylonSix: yeah
[12:18] <CylonSix> Don't suppose you could help me with a problem?
[12:18] <TheHighChild> CylonSix: I can try
[12:18] <Tm_T> !helpme
[12:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:19] <KUBUNTU> .
[12:19] <Tm_T> martamius: interesting :)
[12:20] <CylonSix> Well, I keep trying to access the root from Konsole, and it prompts for the password, now I never set a root password but I assume it's supposed to be the same as the password for the user I created...well, I try me user password and it says that it's incorrect.
[12:20] <CylonSix> Any ideas?
[12:20] <Tm_T> CylonSix: sudo su -> your password
[12:20] <Tm_T> ;)
[12:21] <CylonSix> ok, thanks.
[12:21] <CylonSix> I'll boot to Kubuntu and try that.
[12:22] <TheHighChild> CylonSix: I tried to say this earlier but you took off, to enter a root shell, you can type 'sudo -i' that will put you into a root session, to leave you can type 'exit' That's if you need a root shell, to perform a single command as root, you can use 'sudo' in front of the command
[12:22] <SpAwN> is there anyway to get  newer win versions other then building from source?
[12:22] <TheHighChild> lol, and again
[12:22] <Tm_T> martamius: did you check those urls ubotu gave?
[12:23] <martamius> yeah, the first one didnt work, but im try update-grub now...
[12:23] <Tm_T> TheHighChild: and I thought I'm slow ;)
[12:24] <TheHighChild> Tm_T: eh, watching a movie. I try to be snappy but it doesn't usually work that way
[12:24] <Tm_T> hehe
[12:24] <martamius> ubdate-grub just seems to hang, though
[12:24] <SpAwN> u think its safe to use these ? http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[12:24] <TheHighChild> not to mention, people can't stay for more than 20 seconds if their question isn't answered
[12:25] <Tm_T> TheHighChild: well, I'm too old to answer in 20 seconds
[12:25] <SpAwN> !wine
[12:25] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:25] <TheHighChild> Tm_T: I usually don't know what people are talking about.  I run enemy territory and I have to do that to get fullscreen
[12:34] <CylonSix> Ok so I tried the sudo su, but still when I try and mount a drive Konsole returns with "Only root can do that" :P
[12:36] <CylonSix> anyone here?
[12:36] <Festyur> why does synaptic look this way? http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6949/snapshot1vh2.png
[12:36] <Festyur> CylonSix: me
[12:36] <Sanne> CylonSix: the command would be "sudo mount ...", not sudo su
[12:37] <Tm_T> well, yeah
[12:37] <CylonSix> well, I can't get it to even let me in root for some reason :P
[12:38] <CylonSix> I tried going to file "Root Shell" and what not, typing password in, brings me back to Konsole, and then I type mount /dev/hda3/ /mnt/hda3/ and it says Only Root Can Do That
[12:40] <CylonSix> Anyone have any ideas?
[12:40] <Sanne> CylonSix: try it this way please: open a regular konsole as your normal user, and type :  sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3
[12:41] <CylonSix> alright, I'll brb then
[12:42] <lmosher> What's th command do install my current kernel's source?
[12:43] <nutshell42> lmosher: apt-get install linux-source-<something>
[12:43] <lmosher> nutshell42, ok ty lol
[12:44] <Sanne> lmosher: make very sure the <something> fits your running kernel exactly
[12:44] <lmosher> Sanne, Yeah I checked my uname -r
[12:44] <Sanne> lmosher: uname -r
[12:44] <Sanne> :)
[12:45] <Festyur> why does synaptic look this way? http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6949/snapshot1vh2.png
[12:45] <lmosher> Sanne, when it installs it, where will it be? /usr/src/linux/?
[12:45] <Sanne> lmosher: dunno exactly, you can check this on packages.ubuntu.com on the package's page further down
[12:45] <lmosher> ok ty
[12:46] <Sanne> lmosher: search for where it says "Download ..." and click on "list of files"
[12:47] <nutshell42> lmosher: dpkg -L linux-source-<something>
[12:47] <Tintin> Is GLX / Compiz stable for use?
[12:47] <nutshell42> but iirc it was in /usr/src/<something>
[12:48] <nutshell42> Tintin: xgl or glx?
[12:48] <AKA_foley> how to use tv out i have s3 savage 4 card
[12:48] <Tintin> nutshell42: Don't know...
[12:48] <AKA_foley> can sombody help me
[12:48] <Tintin> nutshell42: I was just wondering if I should try it out... and looking for a tutorial.
[12:48] <nutshell42> Tintin: glx is an extension for x.org, whether it's stable and usable depends on your graphics card drivers
[12:49] <Tintin> Ok, I use intel 810
[12:49] <nutshell42> compiz is semi-stable
[12:49] <nutshell42> I wouldn't use it for my everyday system
[12:49] <Cylon6> Sanne, to no avail :(
[12:49] <Tintin> nutshell42: Ok, thanks. I'll wait till after I hand in my thesis then...
[12:49] <nutshell42> if you don't just want it for the eye-candy (or if you can live with a bit less eye-candy)
[12:50] <Sanne> Cylon6: that is *very* peculiar...
[12:50] <nutshell42> you could use the composite extension instead
[12:50] <Cylon6> Indeed.
[12:50] <Sanne> Cylon6: same error message?
[12:50] <nutshell42> (if the intel driver supports it accelerated...no idea, check google)
[12:50] <nutshell42> it's more stable
[12:50] <Tintin> nutshell42: That will also give me transparency?
[12:50] <Cylon6> no, not the same error message, just nothing in the /mnt/ folder :P
[12:50] <nutshell42> and if it crashes it generally crashes gracefully
[12:50] <nutshell42> yes
[12:50] <AKA_foley> can sombody help me
[12:50] <nutshell42> not quite as spectacular
[12:50] <jinho> nutshell: hey
[12:50] <AKA_foley> how to use tv out i have s3 savage 4 card
[12:51] <nutshell42> but also transparent
[12:51] <Tintin> nutshell42: Ok, I'll take a look at it. thanks.
[12:51] <nutshell42> jinho: and, does it work? =)
[12:51] <Cylon6> it asked me for my password, it put it in, after that command you gave me, and then, it just left me a blank line as if to put in another command.
[12:51] <jinho> nutshell42: hey- apparently menu.lst shows- but it doesnt load...
[12:51] <Sanne> Cylon6: aha! So you *could* mount it this time. Does the folder where you want to mount the device exist, then?
[12:51] <Cylon6> Yes
[12:51] <jinho> nutshell42: the menu shows...but grub cant mount the linux partitions- and the windows drives just wont even load period
[12:51] <Sanne> Cylon6: how did you try to access the mounted folder?
[12:52] <Cylon6> I have dialup, and can't access the internet from Kubuntu...the device is a fat32 partition so I might transfer files from the windows side which can use the net to the Linux side that cannot.
[12:53] <Sanne> Cylon6: this is fine, but how did you try to look into the mounted folder?
[12:53] <Cylon6> and I clicked on the hard drive on my desktop, which brought me to the root folder, and I just went down to where it said /mnt/
[12:53] <pappua> Hello I am trying to build KDE in ubunti 6.  I am getting this error message.  Can some one please help.  I am trying to build according to instructions on this page http://developer.kde.org/build/trunk.html
[12:53] <Sanne> Cylon6: and /mnt is empty?
[12:53] <Cylon6> yes.
[12:53] <Nuked> pappua: on the bleeding edge huh
[12:53] <pappua> error message
[12:53] <pappua> - Looked for GIF libraries named gif;libgif;ungif;libungif;giflib.
[12:53] <pappua> -- Found no acceptable GIF library. This is fatal.
[12:53] <pappua> CMake Error: Error in cmake code at
[12:53] <pappua> /home/kdedev/kdelibs/cmake/modules/FindGIF.cmake:40:
[12:53] <pappua> MESSAGE Could NOT find GIF
[12:53] <bgrimm> A WEP question: if I use "iwconfig <iface> key s:<string>" the string value never computes to the proper key, is it default to 64 bit and I need to change it to 128 somehow? The original passphrase was setup to use 128 bit WEP.
[12:54] <pappua> how can i get these libraries into  ubuntu
[12:54] <Sanne> Cylon6: (btw, please type my name so I get notified when you reply) Then there's no folder in /mnt where you can access your data. You have to create it manually before mounting.
[12:56] <Cylon6> Sanne, so I should create a folder for this hard drive to be accessed in? so make an empty folder "Shared" or whatever, and make the command now sudo mount /dev/hda3/ /mnt/Shared/hda3 ?
[12:57] <Sanne> Cylon6: close ;) You can , for example, make a folder /mnt/hda3 and do: sudo mount /dev/hda3/ /mnt/hda3
[12:57] <Cylon6> ohhhh...I get it now :P
[12:58] <Sanne> Cylon6: you can name the created folder anythin you want, it doesn't need to be hda3
[12:58] <Cylon6> Sanne, thank you! :) I'm a newbie to Linux shell commands really, and this helped me get a more visualized concept of the filesystem...Still learning, as always! :)
[12:59] <Sanne> Cylon6: you could make a folder /mnt/windows and mount it with: sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/windows
[12:59] <Sanne> Cylon6: cool, glad I could help :)
[01:02] <Nuked> can I make Konsole transparent like I can with eterm ?
[01:02] <Nuked> Eterm -f white -n DeskTerm -O -x --buttonbar false --scrollbar false
[01:03] <Nuked> is there an equivalent for konsole
[01:03] <Nuked> ?
[01:03] <Tm_T> Nuked: well, yes
[01:04] <tsdgeos> settings -> scheme -> transparent
[01:04] <Tm_T> as fake transparency as in Eterm
[01:04] <tsdgeos> of course
[01:04] <tsdgeos> succky transparency
[01:04] <Nuked> thats not what im talking about Tm_T
[01:04] <Nuked> try the command I gave you and see
[01:05] <Tm_T> Nuked: I know I know, I have Eterm and Konsole with fake transparency in the desktop already :p
[01:06] <Nuked> are you sure, because I tried tsdgeos method and thats not what im looking for
[01:06] <Nuked> I want it to seem as if I am typing on the desktop
[01:06] <Tm_T> Nuked: no, you can't get Konsole totally borderless
[01:07] <Nuked> Tm_T: awww damn ...
[01:07] <Nuked> is there another terminal besides eterm this will work with?
[01:07] <Tm_T> yeah, that's why I have Eterm there too
[01:07] <Tm_T> hmm, aterm maybe
[01:07] <Nuked> because eterms fonts are killing me
[01:08] <Tm_T> haha
[01:08] <Tm_T> I like my current
[01:09] <Nuked> aterm is worse than eterm
[01:10] <Tm_T> old pic: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[01:10] <sorush2> hi guys how do I remove a module that is already in use?
[01:11] <Nuked> Tm_T: finnish huh
[01:11] <Nuked> whats that on the right hand side
[01:11] <Tm_T> Nuked: no, you're mistaken, it's not finnish, it's siansaksaa
[01:11] <Tm_T> Nakkel: conky? or kicker?
[01:11] <Tm_T> or, err, desklist of kopere?
[01:12] <tsdgeos> sorush2: rmmod
[01:12] <Nuked> no I meant kubuntu-fi
[01:13] <Nuked> and I was talking about the thing that says yankees
[01:13] <Tm_T> no, it's fi as FunnyIsh
[01:13] <Tm_T> Nuked: desklist
[01:13] <Nuked> cool
[01:15] <Tm_T> and that "yankees" group is joke :p
[01:16] <foot> Bearcat: hello
[01:17] <Bearcat> foot: there you are
[01:18] <Bearcat> foot: beep?
[01:19] <Bearcat> foot: beep?
[01:19] <Nuked> whats the path to kde
[01:19] <foot> Bearcat: beep
[01:21] <Nuked> dude whats the path to kde on kubuntu?
[01:21] <Nuked> "/usr/bin/kde?"
[01:21] <phreak__> Nuked: the path is long and dangerous
[01:21] <Nuked> lol
[01:21] <soulrider> Tm_T: do you still have that wallpaper?
[01:22] <Nuked> but im going to compile that desklist plugin
[01:22] <Tm_T> soulrider: that? humm, yes, actually I should make another version of it
[01:22] <rx_> is it possible to upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu without reinstalling? i know i could just install kdm, uninstall gdm, etc...doing it all by hand but it would be lenghtly....
[01:22] <soulrider> :O:O
[01:22] <soulrider> can i get it pleae? :P
[01:22] <soulrider> please*
[01:22] <Tm_T> soulrider: hmm, not until I get kubuntu logo instead of ubuntu
[01:22] <Nuked> i did which kopete and I got usr bin kopete
[01:23] <Tm_T> Nuked: /usr/bin
[01:23] <soulrider> iok
[01:23] <Tm_T> soulrider: then you might find it in edgy repositories ;)
[01:23] <Tm_T> you never know
[01:23] <soulrider> :)
[01:24] <Nuked> what wallpaper?
[01:24] <CylonSix> Ok, here's a question, how do I change the permissions of a folder? :P It's not letting me under properties, it's all grayed out...
[01:24] <Nuked> immutable?
[01:25] <Nuked> configure: error: Could not find Kopete header files
[01:25] <Nuked> hmm...
[01:25] <nutshell42> CylonSix: kdesu konqueror
[01:25] <nutshell42> CylonSix: the problem's most likely that you don't have permission to change the permissions =)
[01:25] <CylonSix> nutshell42, uhm...but I'm the administrator...
[01:26] <nutshell42> Nuked: apt-get install kopete-dev
[01:26] <nutshell42> CylonSix: what exactly do you want to do?
[01:26] <Nuked> nutshell42: figured as much
[01:26] <CylonSix> nutshell42, change the write permissions for the /mnt folder, since I can't create a folder there that I need...
[01:26] <nutshell42> Nuked: if it doesn't find them after that look for a ./configure option to specify the path to the header files
[01:27] <ym4546> hi i was wondering if someone could help me with a samba problem i'm having
[01:27] <nutshell42> CylonSix: you can't create it as root?
[01:27] <waikeung> hi. i just installed firefox in kubuntu.. how do i run it?
[01:27] <crimsun> it should be in your K menu.
[01:27] <ym4546> under internet
[01:27] <nutshell42> waikeung: look for it in kmenu->internet
[01:28] <waikeung> oh i see ty i;m a newbie.. after 2 days of mindwracking and pc restarts to make a usb modem works
[01:28] <CylonSix> nutshell42, i've tried the command sudo mkdir /mnt/hda3 and to no avail.
[01:29] <Bearcat> foot: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:30] <ym4546> i have a samba share, but when i go to it in windows explorer (on a winxp box), it says access denied
[01:30] <ym4546> if i go to entire network, and click on my ubuntu computer's name, it lists the shared printers, but it can't view the share....i'm on kubuntu 6.06
[01:30] <waikeung> btw what good progs i can use to view lots of different codes video. I'm used to mpc on my windows partition
[01:30] <Bearcat> foot: http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/multimedia/#java-plugin
[01:30] <waikeung> *codecs
[01:31] <ym4546> waikeung: vlc
[01:31] <ym4546> go to nightlies.vlc.org, it'll give you a repo to download vlc 0.8.5, cuz the ubuntu repository only has the 0.8.4 version
[01:32] <CylonSix> nutshell42, I can't send you anything because I'm unregistered...
[01:32] <waikeung> thx a lot
[01:32] <CylonSix> Does this place use nickserv?
[01:32] <TheHighChild> Hey guys, question. A lot of times when I am watching you tube or something, i don't get any sound. I have to quit firefox and type 'killall artsd' then retry and it works. Anyway to avoid this?
[01:32] <tsdgeos> CylonSix: yes
[01:32] <nutshell42> CylonSix: what do you want to send me?
[01:32] <Ubuntu-Newbie> omg someone already owns this XD..
[01:34] <Nuked> Tm_T: I dont see the plugin
[01:35] <Tm_T> Nuked: have you restarted kopete?
[01:35] <Nuked> yes
[01:35] <Kiongku> is 2.6.15-26 the latest kernel for the kubuntu distro?
[01:35] <Tm_T> hmm, interesting
[01:35] <Tm_T> Kiongku: to stable yes
[01:36] <foot> help help, I am trying to install fash, enable mp3's and such while taking a break from doing the mythtv and ivtv install and I keep getting a mythtv error.
[01:36] <damian_> anyone here use gnome?
[01:36] <nutshell42> Nuked: did you really restart kopete, i.e. did you make sure it was no longer in the systray? and where did you install the plugin? you might have to use ./configure --prefix=/usr to make sure it's in the default dirs on kubuntu
[01:36] <nutshell42> damian_: you're in kubuntu
[01:36] <damian_> nutshell: I know, but everyone in ubuntu is not responding to my question
[01:36] <nutshell42> oh
[01:37] <Tm_T> Nuked: whoops, my bad, I remembered wrong prefix ;(
[01:37] <Nuked> shit, usr/bin is where i put it
[01:37] <nutshell42> what's your question?
[01:37] <Kiongku> lol..
[01:37] <damian_> I want to know how to get gnome to stop displaying my drives on my desktop
[01:37] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20492
[01:37] <Kiongku> i just got hell to put kubuntu.. i not going to modify it too heavily for now XD
[01:38] <Tm_T> good night ->
[01:38] <nutshell42> damian_: well, there is an option in kde, but most likely not in gnome (they hate options), you probably have to use gconf
[01:38] <damian_> nutshell42: ok
[01:38] <ym4546> i have a samba share, but when i go to it in windows explorer (on a winxp box), it says access denied
[01:38] <ym4546> if i go to entire network, and click on my ubuntu computer's name, it lists the shared printers, but it can't view the share....i'm on kubuntu 6.06
[01:38] <ym4546> any idea?
[01:38] <Nuked> nutshell42:  its there now
[01:39] <Kiongku> can someone send me the link to vlc again.
[01:39] <ym4546> vlc.nightlies.org
[01:39] <ym4546> i think
[01:39] <Kiongku> ah
[01:39] <Kiongku> nightlies.vlc.org u gave me that and it returned me naught :P
[01:39] <ym4546> sorry...nightlies.videolan.org
[01:39] <ym4546> my bda
[01:39] <ym4546> *bad
[01:40] <nutshell42> damian_: sry, tried a google search but found nothing useful
[01:40] <Nuked> ym4546: is it worth installing the nightlies?
[01:40] <ym4546> its not a nightly
[01:40] <Kiongku> ty
[01:40] <ym4546> Nuked: it gives a repository with the final release version of 0.8.5
[01:41] <Nuked> I thought I had 0.8.5 source already installed
[01:41] <Kiongku> i thought its not final
[01:41] <Kiongku> it says experimental
[01:42] <Nuked> VLC media player 0.8.5 Janus
[01:42] <nutshell42> does anyone know how I can get an un-ubuntified cups without having to compile it myself?
[01:43] <nutshell42> my printer doesn't work like it should and I'm pretty sure ubuntu's part of the problem
[01:44] <damian_> nutshell42: that worked beautifully, thanks
[01:46] <nutshell42> damian_: no problem, next time switch to kde instead =P
[01:46] <damian_> nutshell42: I was using KDE but wanted to try gnome
[01:46] <Kiongku> how to add a key?
[01:47] <otaku-san> hey does any know what and where this is? pyGTK 2.6+
[01:48] <nutshell42> otaku-san: apt-get install python-gtk2
[01:48] <Kiongku> =\.. i tried to install vlc but it says break
[01:48] <otaku-san> nutshell42: ok I was trying pygtk hehe
[01:49] <Nuked> how do I block a person from imming me in kopete?
[01:49] <Kiongku> anyone can help me?
[01:51] <Nuked> Kiongku: whats going on?
[01:54] <ubuntu_> hi im running the latest version of kubuntu live dvd. does anyone know the root password for su in shell ?
[01:55] <gnomefreak> !root
[01:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:55] <nutshell42> ubuntu_: sudo -i
[01:55] <ubuntu_> su
[01:55] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_: might want to read that
[01:55] <nutshell42> su
[01:55] <nutshell42> doesn't work
[01:55] <nutshell42> because root isn't enabled by default
[01:56] <otaku-san> ok....I'm trying to run <http://pyradar.sourceforge.net/index-old.htm> a weather radar.  I installed in correctly and everytime I tried a odd error came up complaining about a line.  So I found out I was missing a pack...just installed..tried to run the program and this came up
[01:56] <ubuntu_> cool thanks
[01:56] <otaku-san> well I'll paste it on paste bin
[01:58] <otaku-san> here http://pastebin.ca/130265
[02:01] <ym4546> anybody got any samba idea
[02:01] <ym4546> on my previous question
[02:04] <nutshell42> ym4546: look for a samba howto or tutorial
[02:04] <nutshell42> ym4546: security = user
[02:04] <nutshell42> should basically make samba use your unix users on that server for authentication
[02:04] <nutshell42> but it's not quite that easy
[02:05] <nutshell42> then
[02:05] <nutshell42> browseable = yes
[02:05] <nutshell42> valid users = <whoever you want>
[02:05] <nutshell42> will make it available from windows
[02:05] <Bearcat> foot:  in a terminal window as not root, type "xhost +localhost"
[02:06] <alterato> Hi all. Does anyone know if any of the repos have packages for zsnes?
[02:07] <alterato> I've enabled all repos listed in Adept, guess what I need to ask is if there is a 3rd party repo that might have it?
[02:08] <LeeJunFan> Man windoze is lame - it won't accept a dhcp offer unless it can reach the internet, just keeps rejecting the offers.
[02:12] <damian_> !games
[02:12] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[02:12] <systest> kubuntu 6.06, system sees new usb drive but will not allow me to mount it (yes, I'm in the plugdev group) any suggestions what to check/config?
[02:12] <alterato> thank you damian
[02:13] <Bearcat> foot: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:14] <QMario> What is oneko?
[02:14] <ubuntu_> is chkdsk included on the live dvd ? i can run fdsk but chkdsk says command not found ?
[02:16] <ym4546> nutshell42: thanx
[02:22] <actinic> Kubuntu now has a distributed Folding team!
[02:22] <actinic> http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=51238
[02:22] <actinic> join up
[02:22] <actinic> and let's kick some ass
[02:24] <nutshell42> fsck the folding, tell me why me kde doesn't want to print =P
[02:24] <actinic> i'll tell you once you join
[02:25] <actinic> :)
[02:29] <nutshell42> actinic: k, I d/led the client, I won't do anything with it until you've solved my problem =)
[02:36] <zipper> actinic, i joined as well for the fun of it
[02:37] <actinic> thanks guys
[02:38] <edgarin> Hello to all I have a problem
[02:38] <edgarin> I want install ltsp in kubuntu
[02:38] <edgarin> the ltsp is running
[02:38] <edgarin> but the mouse serial in the terminal not workds
[02:43] <intelikey> if i was to install nvidia drivers    how do i know what driver i need???     (assume legacy)
[02:44] <actinic> nutshell42, describe the prob for me
[02:44] <actinic> !nvidia
[02:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <intelikey> if i was to install nvidia drivers    how do i know what driver i need???     (assume legacy)
[02:45] <zipper__> !nvidia intelikey
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia intelikey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <zipper__> !nvidia > intelikey
[02:46] <intelikey> if i was to install nvidia drivers    how do i know what driver i need???     (assume legacy)
[02:46] <actinic> !nvidia
[02:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:46] <intelikey> yall don't seem to take a hint.
[02:46] <zipper__> read the guide. The answer to your question is in it
[02:46] <MasterEvilAce> what's the deal with the whole "Hard drive not checked" for 30 boots.. forced checking.. what is the point of that
[02:46] <zipper__> it's even in the beginning as far as i remember
[02:46] <intelikey> it's much easier to say "i don't know."  than to just piss people off with a bot posting.
[02:47] <zipper__> stop trolling, and just read the guide, and ask if you encounter any problems
[02:47] <intelikey> zipper i read the guide
[02:47] <zipper__> what trouble did you encounter then?
[02:49] <intelikey> so anyone know how to determine if i need the legacy driver or not ?
[02:49] <charles1952> Hi...newbie to Kubuntu here....any suggestions about which runtime package of Java I should install???
[02:49] <zipper__> intelikey, you didnt read the guide. I know, cus' i just skimmed through it, and found this link for you which exactly tells you which card uses which driver : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[02:49] <intelikey> charles1952 try   apt-cache search java
[02:50] <zipper__> intelikey, next time, do the legwork yourself, you're probably going to do a lot of it at some point anyway
[02:50] <intelikey> you can show more info on any listing there by using apt-cache show <package name>
[02:50] <charles1952> well...I have done an adept search and it comes up with 8 or 9 different Java runtime environments....is there one in particulaar that works best?
[02:51] <waikeung> hi anyone knows how to make vlc read .mkv video files?
[02:51] <intelikey> charles1952 that i couldn't answer.  i don't do java.
[02:51] <charles1952> okay...I'll give it a try...thanks
[02:51] <actinic> !nvidia
[02:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:51] <Kiongku> hello?
[02:53] <actinic> zipper, what kinda rig do u own for folding?
[02:53] <zipper__> intelikey, at no point should you feel obligated to thank me for doing all the work for you. I just love being people's little helper when they feel lazy.
[02:53] <zipper__> actinic, overcloced d805 + celeron m 420 laptop
[02:53] <zipper__> overclocked*
[02:54] <actinic> well better that than overlooked :)
[02:54] <zipper__> actinic, dont know how passionate i'll be about running the program though
[02:54] <actinic> just keep you're eyes out on the temps
[02:54] <Kiongku> anyone knows how to read .mkv video files in kubuntu?
[02:54] <actinic> and i understand
[02:55] <zipper__> temperature shouldn't be a problem. It's "only" overclocked from 2.66ghz to 3.33ghz, and i have a zalman 9500 cooler on it
[02:55] <intelikey> Kiongku not sure you can, but if so install the proper codec for them.
[02:55] <actinic> lol, 'only'
[02:55] <zipper__> it's on stock vcore (!)
[02:55] <zipper__> stable as well
[02:56] <intelikey> !codecs
[02:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:56] <zipper__> tomshardware managed to get one to 4.1ghz where it outperformed an Amd x2 4200 :)
[02:56] <actinic> of course mine's an opteron running 2.9 from 2 stock :)
[02:56] <intelikey> hehhe oh forgot i was ignoring the bot.
[02:56] <zipper__> and the d805 is like, 100$ theese days
[02:56] <actinic> good stuff
[02:56] <zipper__> opteron is a good cpu as well
[02:57] <Kiongku> thx intelikey
[02:57] <zipper__> intelikey, dont mention it. It came out a little more harsh than intended
[02:57] <intelikey> np
[02:58] <Kr4t05> !VB
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about VB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <actinic> yeah, temps aren't too bad either, about 48C full tilt boogy
[02:58] <Kr4t05> ><
[02:58] <Bearcat> foot: libdvdcss2
[02:58] <zipper__> still room for a lot of overclocking then :)
[02:58] <actinic> yep, can't wait for winter! :)
[02:58] <zipper__> hehe
[02:59] <Kr4t05> zipper__: You talking about the Intel Pentium D OC beast?
[02:59] <zipper__> actually, my cpu is only running 3.00ghz as well... became a little unstable when the summer hit us
[02:59] <zipper__> Kr4t05, yeah
[02:59] <zipper__> well, mainly the d805
[02:59] <actinic> well folding is certainly a good test
[02:59] <zipper__> since it's such a good overclocking cpu for such a low price
[03:00] <Kr4t05> zipper__: I'm thinking about getting one for my next machine, but I may opt for a Mac Mini.  But the performance you can get from a 100$ cpu with a 25$ cooling unit on it is indeed appealing
[03:01] <zipper__> actinic, me2
[03:01] <zipper__> actinic, i've always, always been an amd-guy
[03:01] <intelikey> so let me ask one more time, and keep the bot out of this.  is there a way to tell which nvidia driver to try when that wiki page doesn't mention it ????????
[03:02] <zipper__> intelikey, i gave you a direct link for that before
[03:02] <zipper__> "intelikey, you didnt read the guide. I know, cus' i just skimmed through it, and found this link for you which exactly tells you which card uses which driver : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html"
[03:02] <actinic> zipper__, same here
[03:02] <intelikey> anyone have any idea ?
[03:02] <zipper__> intelikey, yes! And i've already told you my idea 2 times
[03:04] <zipper__> actinic, but at the time i bought my setup, amd had nothing to offer that could compare to the price/performance of the d805. Only other option really, was the x2, but it was before the conroe was released, so it wasn't exactly cheap at the time
[03:04] <Jucato> intelikey: have you tried reading from the Ubuntu Documentation Storage Facility (UDSF)? I think they have a guide there on which nvidia driver to try
[03:05] <intelikey> udsf   no.  all i have tried was that wiki that ubotu knows.   got a url on that ?
[03:05] <Ashex> !pastebin > Ashex
[03:05] <zipper__> intelikey, what card do you have?
[03:06] <zipper__> intelikey, you can probably find it by typing 'lspci' or 'lspci | grep nvidia'
[03:06] <zipper__> if you dont know already
[03:06] <niklaz> Um, yes.. I'm having a problem with qt3.  It says I have it but it's not working when I'm trying to install a screensaver.
[03:06] <niklaz> I installed the -dev packages but still.
[03:06] <Jucato> intelikey: I'm not entirely sure. I'm on irssi now (pure console), so I couldn't really check...
[03:07] <Jucato> intelikey: sorry...
[03:07] <foot> Bearcat: xhost +localhost
[03:07] <Ashex> hmmm
[03:07] <intelikey> Jucato k  thanks for the pointer   i'll go see what i can find.
[03:07] <Ashex> I seem to have run into a problem while trying to apt-get gtk+ dev files
[03:07] <soulrider> !seen tk
[03:07] <Ashex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20500
[03:07] <ubotu> I last saw tk<EMAIL_ADDRESS>21m 30s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[03:07] <soulrider> oh damn!
[03:07] <niklaz> So can anybody help me? x_x
[03:08] <actinic> zipper__, have you been generally pleased with the 805?
[03:08] <actinic> celeron, right?
[03:08] <Jucato> niklaz: I might be wrong, but I think the command should have been "lspci | grep nVidia". I'm not sure how to make grep ignore cases
[03:09] <niklaz> Eh?
[03:09] <zipper__> actinic, so far, yes. And no, it's called the "Pentium d805"
[03:09] <Agios> lspci | grep -i nvidia
[03:09] <niklaz> Jucato: I don't have nvidia.. o.O
[03:09] <zipper__> i'm very pleased with it, although i am considering getting a conroe... accoriding to reviews, they seem quite good
[03:09] <Jucato> Agios: cool! thanks
[03:10] <intelikey> Jucato -i == case insensitive
[03:10] <Jucato> yeah, thanks :-D
[03:10] <Jucato> gotta go. gotta restart @_@
[03:10] <foot> Bearcat:
[03:10] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20501
[03:10] <Agios> I think I'm going for the Conroe E6700. But not until around March.
[03:10] <workhurtsme> hey guys, I am a new linux user, and I have been using kubuntu (dapper drake 64 bit) for about a week now on my amd 64 bit 3500. I cannot get my filesharing to enable though. it prompts me for my password in the system settings, then nothing. anyone else experience this?
[03:11] <zipper__> Agios, why not untill march?
[03:11] <niklaz> I have a 3200+..
[03:11] <niklaz> file sharing with what/
[03:11] <niklaz> *?
[03:11] <Agios> zipper__: Won't have the $ until then LOL
[03:11] <zipper__> niklaz, my guess is samba
[03:11] <zipper__> Agios, oh okay :)
[03:11] <niklaz> What's samba?
[03:11] <niklaz> o_O
[03:11] <Agios> zipper__: And hopefully prices will drop some by then.
[03:12] <zipper__> niklaz, windows filesharing? nfs?
[03:12] <workhurtsme> well, samba is working to view the windows box, however my kubuntu box won't let me set up filesharing...so the other linux box we have can see this one
[03:12] <foot> Bearcat: http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
[03:12] <niklaz> eh, no, that was the other dudes problem.
[03:12] <zipper__> Agios, hopefully... i can't see myself paying for one of those at the prices they are at now
[03:12] <niklaz> mine is installing screensavers.
[03:12] <niklaz> :)
[03:12] <workhurtsme> i have three computers, 1 windows, 2 kubuntus. i just want them to see eachother and be able to share.
[03:12] <niklaz> network.. foward ports..?
[03:13] <niklaz> oh
[03:13] <niklaz> what zipper said, samba
[03:13] <zipper__> niklaz, i know, but you were asking "file sharing with what?"
[03:13] <niklaz> oh
[03:13] <niklaz> okay.
[03:13] <niklaz> :)
[03:14] <zipper__> workhurtsme, you should look into "samba" and/or "nfs"
[03:14] <zipper__> !samba
[03:14] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:14] <zipper__> there you go
[03:14] <Ashex> how do I check the locations of my sound card for alsa?
[03:15] <intelikey> Ashex lshw   lspci    cat /proc/asound/cards     just what are you wanting to know ?
[03:15] <workhurtsme> well my samba works fine to see my windows box and all that
[03:15] <workhurtsme> my problem is that this kubuntu machine won;'t share its files. the other kubuntu machine can't see it either. this machine con only "view" the windows machine.
[03:15] <nuaimat> hi , anyone from jordan ??
[03:16] <Ashex> intelikey, I'm trying to tweak cedega so i get sound in my games, i need the location of the ctl device and the pcm device
[03:16] <ivan`> does restoring from sleep mode crash the kernel for anyone else?
[03:16] <zipper__> workhurtsme, hmm, not sure what the problem is, have you read the guides for clues?
[03:17] <intelikey> Ashex ah  look in /dev/sound/    for that   iirc
[03:17] <Ashex> intelikey, you mean /dev/snd?
[03:17] <intelikey> yeah maybe.
[03:17] <intelikey> heh
[03:17] <Ashex> :P
[03:18] <intelikey> i don't have either.
[03:18] <Ashex> i've got a few things that look like it, controlC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D1c  timer
[03:18] <Ashex> I'll just try a combination of them and see what happens
[03:18] <intelikey> documentation on alsa might clear it up
[03:18] <workhurtsme> well, i have tried the forums, and read a bit, but i can't seem to figure anything out in regards to my problem. For some reason when I am in the settings, and try to enable network fielsharing and try to enter "administration mode" it does nothing. Once I enter my password it still has the grey screen and no changable information. So, I think everything would work, if kubuntu would just actually enable filesharing so the other comp
[03:18] <workhurtsme> uters could see it.
[03:19] <Ashex> !alsa > Ashex
[03:20] <dreadyburnz> anyone help me with getting easy unbuntu to work please?
[03:20] <intelikey> workhurtsme could launch kcontrol as root
[03:20] <intelikey> assuming that's the app
[03:20] <Bearcat> foot: ls /lib/modules/
[03:21] <workhurtsme> kcontrol?
[03:21] <foot> Bearc2.6.15-23-386  2.6.15-26-386  ivtv-fw-dec.bin  ivtv-fw-enc.binat:
[03:21] <Bearcat> foot: uname -r
[03:22] <foot> Bearcat : 2.6.15-26-386at:
[03:22] <intelikey> workhurtsme yeah isn't that the app that  menu > system settings    launches ?   you could pstree or top to find out
[03:23] <Ashex> workhurtsme, you need to install samba-servecr
[03:23] <Ashex> or something with samba
[03:23] <workhurtsme> okay
[03:23] <Ashex> it's an odd fluke in kubuntu
[03:23] <Ashex> I have the same problem
[03:23] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, what problems are you having?
[03:23] <workhurtsme> where can i get that package or whatever?>
[03:24] <intelikey> oh you don't have samba installed ?    yeah to share to windows you need samba
[03:24] <Ashex> workhurtsme, check adept
[03:24] <zipper__> workhurtsme, you can get new packages from "adept" which is in system -> adept
[03:24] <intelikey> samba - a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix
[03:25] <intelikey> !info samba
[03:25] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB
[03:25] <dreadyburnz> just really started playing around with ubuntu so a bit clueless to how it all works etc, just need someone to talk me through installing easy ubuntu so i can get the audio and vids working
[03:26] <workhurtsme> okay thanks guys, i will be back shortly.
[03:26] <Ashex> dreadyburnz, have you downloaded it?
[03:26] <Ashex> !easyubuntu
[03:26] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:26] <dreadyburnz> i did but then i deleted it cos not sure of what version i need or anything
[03:27] <Ashex> go to link mentioned above to download
[03:27] <dreadyburnz> that website aint working at moment
[03:27] <Ashex> okay
[03:27] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, well, there's a pretty good guide here : https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu
[03:27] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, feel free to ask if you encounter any problems using that guide
[03:28] <dreadyburnz> il have a look now cheers ppl :)
[03:28] <Ashex> dreadyburnz, you can grab the one i use off my site, http://local.chipnick.com/~ahmed/easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz
[03:28] <killdashnine> i keep getting this message when i login
[03:28] <intelikey> i wish mt nvidia card was in a list so i could know which driver might work...
[03:28] <killdashnine> pam_winbind write to socket failed!
[03:28] <killdashnine> in /var/log/auth.log
[03:28] <killdashnine> how would i be able to better debug the reason behind this?
[03:28] <zipper__> dreadyburnz,  well, either the one i pasted or http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:28] <dreadyburnz> also just 1 more 4 ya, how do i enable thelike system tray?
[03:28] <Gh0st75> trying to run the install for java and konsole needs me to log in as root, the password for that, is it one i would have set during the install of kubuntu? i tried the password i use to log into kubuntu but that wasn't accepted
[03:29] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, system tray? enable it? I'm not sure what you want to do, please explain
[03:29] <zipper__> Gh0st75, yes, it's the one you set in the install
[03:29] <Gh0st75> hmm, not accepting it for some reason
[03:30] <zipper__> Gh0st75, hmm, it should be identical to the pass you use to login with your regular user
[03:30] <dreadyburnz> well when i installed ubuntu there was 2 menus 1 at top and 1 at the bottom, but deleted the top one so now just have a start menu at the bottom, like the system tray where gaim etc would usually minimise to?
[03:30] <Gh0st75> yep, tried it several times
[03:30] <intelikey> Gh0st75 test this command    sudo echo yes      and when it asks for a pass give yours.
[03:31] <Gh0st75> ok, did that
[03:31] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, i use kde, so i cant remember the names too well, but you can right click your one bar, and then add more stuff to it, or even add a whole other panel (system tray)
[03:31] <intelikey> did it say "yes" ?
[03:31] <Gh0st75> yes it did
[03:31] <dreadyburnz> yeah been on the add to panel but cant find a system tray one :(
[03:31] <zipper__> you sure you not mistyped the pass before Gh0st75? It seems like it's accepting the one you're using
[03:32] <intelikey> well kill the install and run it with   sudo prepended
[03:32] <Gh0st75> positive, tried it multiple times
[03:32] <Gh0st75> no even installing anythin yet, first step on the java site's instructions says to go to terminal and type su then my password, that's as far as i got, lol
[03:33] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, ah, i can't recall it's name, but you can get to see a whole list (with icons for each one) of different actions/applications you want to launch. Near the bottom of that list, theres something i think is called "Application Manager" or something like that. Try adding that one to the panel
[03:33] <intelikey> no   do sudo <scriptname>
[03:33] <Gh0st75> i just have the bin file downloaded
[03:34] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, not the synaptic application though, but i can't remember its name too well, i'm using kde atm
[03:34] <posthuman> i'm getting an error when trying to run frostwire on kubuntu (edgy I know) :P...it is runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[03:34] <posthuman> line 44 is   potential_java_dirs=(`ls -d1 "$JAVADIR" /j*`)
[03:34] <zipper__> Gh0st75, ah, thats why
[03:34] <posthuman> would anyone know how to fix that?
[03:34] <zipper__> Gh0st75, (k)ubuntu doesnt have a root user (well it does, but well, simplified, it doesnt)
[03:34] <intelikey> Gh0st75 so  sudo java*.bin
[03:34] <Gh0st75> ok, will try that
[03:35] <zipper__> Gh0st75, so you have to do as intelikey says, use 'sudo' for each time you'd need root access
[03:35] <intelikey> Gh0st75 you know java is in the repos   and can be installed via the package manager don't you.
[03:35] <bonggnu> hi, i cannot connect a computer in my lan to my server , throw xdmcp, both are kubuntu box, where ir /var/log/ could i check for errors messages?
[03:35] <darkyoshi372> hi all, is there a way to get smooth scrolling in firefox, like in Kopete?
[03:36] <Agios> posthuman: I might try taking the ( and ) out. But it's hard to tell from one line :)
[03:36] <zipper__> posthuman, have you read the java guide? frostwire needs java. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[03:36] <Gh0st75> i tried that intelikey, but i still wasn't able to get java to work
[03:36] <Agios> well, I assumed he had java installed LOL
[03:36] <posthuman> java is installed and should work :)
[03:36] <posthuman> heh
[03:36] <Gh0st75> i'd much rather do the package route, as i'm slowly gettin used to adept manager
[03:37] <intelikey> Gh0st75 ok.  well good luck with that one.
[03:37] <posthuman> I tried taking off the ()'s as well, but got a 'bad substitution error
[03:38] <darkyoshi372> anyone? smooth scrolling in firefox?
[03:38] <posthuman> isn't there an option in the preferences dialog?
[03:38] <darkyoshi372> oh, maybe
[03:39] <intelikey> posthuman `ls -d1 "$JAVADIR" /j*`  ???   you don't expect a  /j* dir do you ?
[03:39] <posthuman> i believe so under 'advanced' @ dark
[03:39] <posthuman> that's what it says inteli =\ heh..i can try taking the /j off?
[03:40] <intelikey> rather try this first   echo  "$JAVADIR"
[03:40] <intelikey> does that show a path ?
[03:40] <dreadyburnz> got the easy unbuntu folder unzipped and open, what do i need to do now, that help websites frying brain a bit lol
[03:40] <Gh0st75> just reinstalled the jre packages, trying to verify the installation on the java site now
[03:41] <posthuman> intelikey: it shows nothing
[03:41] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, i think the guide tells you to run a python command in order to start easyubuntu
[03:41] <posthuman> just blank
[03:42] <posthuman> but java is installed
[03:42] <dreadyburnz> how i do that lol, sorry for being a pain lol
[03:42] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, or well, it's really just "python easyubuntu.in"
[03:42] <Gh0st75> posthuman, can you successfully Verify the java installation at java.com ?
[03:42] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, it's in the guide. The only reason for you to be a pain, is cus' you're not reading the guide :)
[03:42] <intelikey> posthuman try   find /usr -type d -name java
[03:43] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, the readme is here : http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/README
[03:43] <zipper__> dreadyburnz, tells you how to install and run it
[03:43] <posthuman> it says i have 1.4.2
[03:43] <posthuman> not the latest
[03:43] <posthuman> should I install 1.5?
[03:43] <posthuman> or whatever the next is
[03:44] <wills> Hey, I just installed Kubuntu, but the highest resolution that it will allow me to set my desktop at 1280x1024
[03:44] <wills> Is there way a way to up that?
[03:44] <zipper__> wills, yes. Try under system settings -> display
[03:44] <foot> Bearcat: I will just go thru line by line exept for what I remember doing before.
[03:44] <wills> I went there
[03:44] <dreadyburnz> will have a look now lol
[03:44] <wills> zipper__: Max size under display was 1280x1024
[03:44] <posthuman> intelikey: it found /usr/lib/java
[03:44] <foot> Bearcat: the battery died, TAPS is playing
[03:44] <zipper__> wills, ah okay. What would you want it to be?
[03:45] <wills> zipper__: 1680x1050 is my monitor's native resolution
[03:45] <dreadyburnz> sudo python Easy<tab>/easyubuntu.py i typed in that on terminal and says no such file or directory
[03:45] <intelikey> you could set that veriable      export JAVADIR=/usr/lib/java    then retry what ever gave you the error
[03:45] <zipper__> wills, you need to locate the "Section "Screen"" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:45] <zipper__> wills, tell me when you've found it
[03:45] <wills> zipper__: Already been there
[03:46] <Gh0st75> after installing the java packages, do i need to type anything to enable them?
[03:46] <intelikey> @ posthuman ^
[03:46] <wills> zipper__: Added 1680x1050 there
[03:46] <zipper__> wills, but no luck?
[03:46] <wills> zipper__: Rebooted X, but the max allowable resolution in display is still 1280x1024
[03:46] <wills> zipper__: Interestingly enough, xorg.conf specifies a 1600x1200 resolution by default, but that isn't showing up either
[03:47] <zipper__> try commenting out the old resolution line, and make a copy of it which you change it, so the only possible resolution is your screens native resolution
[03:47] <zipper__> -it
[03:47] <wills> zipper__: Ctrl - Alt - Backspace is sufficient to reset X, right?
[03:47] <darkyoshi372> init 1 maybe?
[03:47] <darkyoshi372> it's probably better
[03:47] <darkyoshi372> I don't know how... :P
[03:48] <zipper__> wills, yes. Remember to close down all applications, and log out first though
[03:48] <intelikey> i wish there was a way without downloading both source packages to find out whether either nvidia package would work on my card.    i think legacy   it's probably old enough to qualify as legacy hardware.
[03:48] <zipper__> intelikey, your card is not listed on the list i gave you before?
[03:49] <wills> zipper__: Be right back, if it doesn't work.  If it does, thank you.
[03:49] <zipper__> :)
[03:53] <Jucato> intelikey: were you able to find it?
[03:53] <wills> zipper__: No luck
[03:53] <wills> zipper__: Display options remain constant
[03:54] <intelikey> Jucato nothing helpful
[03:54] <zipper__> wills, hmm? You changed your xorg.conf to only allow you to use your native resolution, but it still booted up using a different resolution?
[03:54] <intelikey> Jucato i guess i have the only unlisted nvidia card built....
[03:54] <Jucato> intelikey: what's your nvidia card, btw?
[03:54] <wills> zipper__: Yeah
[03:54] <intelikey> 128
[03:55] <wills> zipper__: Does KDE have a seperate config file it stores somewhere?
[03:55] <Gh0st75> well, another night gone and java still not working, will try again tomorrow i guess, gona afk
[03:55] <wills> zipper__: I remember editing my xorg.conf fixed it easily back when I used GNOME
[03:55] <zipper__> intelikey, am i on ignore or something? You've could've told me that, perhaps i could've helped you then
[03:55] <intelikey> nvidia   thompson joint venture 128
[03:55] <Jucato>  @_@
[03:55] <zipper__> wills, hmm, not that i'm aware of
[03:55] <intelikey> yeah tell me.
[03:56] <zipper__> wills, can you paste your xorg.conf in a pastebin somewhere?
[03:56] <wills> zipper__: Sure
[03:56] <intelikey> so all i get is  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia  !nvidia        hehhe
[03:56] <intelikey> like i didn't have enough sense to look there firs.
[03:56] <intelikey> t
[03:57] <Jucato> intelikey: maybe your card is covered by the legacy drivers?
[03:57] <Jucato> intelikey: I guess this is the specific page I was thinking of: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[03:57] <intelikey> jucato maybe... that's what i'm leaning toword  but it's not listed in the legacy list.
[03:57] <zipper__> intelikey, how were we supposed to know you actually read the guide, and found out your card was not listed on the supported chips list, when you never mentioned that before now?
[03:57] <Jucato> err...
[03:57] <intelikey> looking
[03:58] <Jucato> intelikey: what does the "lspci | grep -i nvidia" command output?
[03:58] <zipper__> oh well, i dont care. Don't want to force help upon a person who doesnt want it
[03:58] <TooDamFast> gnome/kde question?  why do my keyboard hot keys work in gnome but not it kde on the same install?
[03:58] <wills> zipper__: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jCtM8d77.html
[03:59] <intelikey> just told you   " NVidia Thomson Joint Venture 128  "
[03:59] <wills> TooDamFast: The hotkeys are stored desktop-specific, not system wide.
[03:59] <zipper__> thanks, after ignoring me for an hour
[03:59] <Jucato> TooDamFast: which hot keys? GNOME and KDE use different programs for hot keys, so they don't usually work across desktop environments
[03:59] <TooDamFast> does kde use the same fstab file that gnome uses?
[03:59] <zipper__> good luck with it though
[04:00] <Jucato> intelikey: Thomson or Thompson?
[04:00] <TooDamFast> i thought it was fstab related?
[04:00] <intelikey> that was a cp and paste ^
[04:00] <wills> TooDamFast: If you're talking about /etc/fstab, that's a system file
[04:00] <intelikey> first i typed.
[04:00] <wills> TooDamFast: But hotkeys aren't stored there
[04:00] <zipper__> wills, hmm, what resolution / depth does it start up in when you have only the native resolution available?
[04:00] <wills> TooDamFast: fstab stores mounts
[04:00] <Jucato> TooDamFast: fstab = FileSystem Table
[04:00] <wills> zipper__: 1280x1024
[04:00] <TooDamFast> i thought the keyboard was identified there.
[04:01] <intelikey> jucato  "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller:  NVidia Thomson Joint Venture 128  "
[04:01] <wills> zipper__: With options for 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480, etc
[04:01] <TooDamFast> ive only been using linux for 5 weeks now. i started with gnome and swithed to kde a few days ago.
[04:01] <zipper__> wills, you know what depth it's in? You could try commenting out every other depths than the default one with the native resolution. Then we can be 100% sure it's no fault of the xorg.conf if it doesnt boot up. Or well, i might be, but at least not the resolution-selecting-part
[04:02] <wills> zipper__: All my other depths -are- commented out, I think
[04:02] <Jucato> intelikey: googling...
[04:02] <wills> zipper__: Wait...my main monitor's not even a Dell
[04:02] <wills> zipper__: I just realized that
[04:02] <zipper__> wills, ooh, they are, missed that... hmmm
[04:02] <zipper__> Identifier is only, well, and identifier, a name
[04:02] <niklaz> oh, I forget konversation minimizes
[04:02] <niklaz> :O
[04:02] <wills> zipper__: Yeah, I know, but could it have gotten confused somewhere?
[04:02] <wills> zipper__: I've got a second monitor that I don't use in Linux
[04:03] <Jucato> intelikey: I think your card falls under the nVidia Riva group
[04:03] <wills> zipper__: Cause I've always been unable to get it to use dual monitors on my video card
[04:03] <TooDamFast> how can i set up my hot keys on m$ keyboard in kde?
[04:03] <zipper__> wills, tried plugging in your monitor to the other output of your gfx card?
[04:03] <wills> zipper__: But it's plugged in...could it be thinking those settings are for the 2nd one and using some defaults somewhere for my main monitor?
[04:03] <Jucato> intelikey: I think your card falls under the nVidia Riva group
[04:03] <wills> zipper__: Err, I don't have another output
[04:03] <wills> zipper__: I've got a laptop with a widescreen LCD on it, and a CRT plugged into the DVI out
[04:04] <zipper__> wills, ah, i see
[04:04] <soulrider> is there any way i can see in my kicker ONLY the apps that are on my curresnt desktop ?
[04:04] <wills> zipper__: I'm thinking that maybe it's picked up the wrong monitor as my default?
[04:04] <zipper__> wills, it's probably the clone-setup that bugs it then. Your CRT probably has a hard time with using the 1680x1050 resolution
[04:05] <wills> zipper__: My CRT's not even on
[04:05] <zipper__> is it connected?
[04:05] <zipper__> hmm
[04:05] <zipper__> let me think
[04:05] <wills> zipper__: Yeah...should I try disconnecting it entirely, running an X -configure, and then eidting the file that comes out?
[04:05] <zipper__> dont think it'll do you much good
[04:06] <Jucato> intelikey: were you able to get that? the last ones I typed in?
[04:06] <wills> zipper__: I can always try re-installing without the CRT plugged in
[04:06] <wills> zipper__: Installation only takes 10 minutes or so anyways
[04:06] <zipper__> dualview/tv-out/all that stuff is a pain in the a** and usually doesnt go too well with config-applications. You usually have to get a little dirty to make it work
[04:06] <wills> zipper__: I know, I know
[04:06] <zipper__> nah, dont think thats nessesary
[04:06] <Jucato> err.. logging out
[04:06] <wills> zipper__: Only way I can ever get two monitors working in Linux is to have two seperate video cards
[04:06] <intelikey> jucato yes i hear you
[04:07] <Jucato> intelikey: ok. Riva TNT seems to be covered by the legacy drivers, so I'm presuming Riva128 will be as well. anyway, good luck!
[04:07] <zipper__> wills, how come?
[04:07] <Jucato> logging out...
[04:07] <intelikey> Jucato and that means legacy  might work.
[04:07] <wills> zipper__: X doesn't seem to recognize my DVI output and my LCD output as two seperate devices
[04:07] <intelikey> yes assuming
[04:08] <wills> Wow, a Riva 128?
[04:08] <wills> I think that card's almost as old as I am
[04:08] <intelikey> you about 6 years old ?
[04:09] <wills> Exaggeration
[04:09] <zipper__> wills, well, it's probably cus' you do not have two seperate devices
[04:09] <zipper__> wills, you probably have one device, with several outputs
[04:09] <wills> zipper__: How do you distinguish between outputs in xorg.conf?
[04:10] <zipper__> wills, there are different ways of doing it. You can run 2 seperate x-sessions, you could persuade xorg to thinking you have 2 devices, and you can use the twin-view option if you're a nvidia user.
[04:11] <zipper__> They are all equally worthless
[04:11] <zipper__> :P
[04:11] <wills> zipper__: Ughh...well, can't use twin-view cause I
[04:11] <zipper__> or well, i'm kidding, it's possible to make it work, but it's not userfriendly at all
[04:11] <wills> zipper__: I've got an ATI.  And still doesn't fix my resolution =/
[04:12] <matt__> hey all
[04:12] <zipper__> i must admit, i have a hard time understanding why it runs a different resolution that available in the xorg.conf
[04:12] <zipper__> wills, however
[04:12] <matt__> has anyone had problems with cups after the latest dapper updates?
[04:13] <zipper__> wills, try pasting your /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere
[04:14] <matt__> its was working fine up until the last set of updates.  Its an Epson CX4800 printer/scanner.
[04:14] <wills> zipper__: http://www.its.caltech.edu/~willshao/Xorg.0.log
[04:14] <byen> hey guys  Here is my question.. none of my usb drives mount unless i type sudo modprobe -r ehci-hcd ... what can i do.. how should i proceed. ..Please suggest.. how can I have them mount automatically like they should...
[04:15] <zipper__> wills, a warning though, i don't know for how long i'll be able to help you debug the problem, it's 4am here and i'm getting really tired
[04:15] <intelikey> hah this is so useless....  why would installing linux-386 & nvidia-glx-legacy     depend on linux-image-2.6.15-23-386    that's stupid.   running 26-386 now....
[04:15] <wills> zipper__: Thanks for helping me, though.  4am.  Damn
[04:15] <wills> zipper__: It's 7 pm here
[04:15] <zipper__> lol :)
[04:15] <zipper__> wills, hmm... according to DPMS, your monitor doesnt support its native resolution
[04:16] <actinic> wills, have u checked this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:16] <zipper__> wills, max is 1280x1024@75hz which was what you were able to select in system manager -> display right?
[04:17] <wills> Yeah
[04:17] <wills> zipper__: I'm seeing that line
[04:17] <zipper__> wills, i think you need to dig out your manual for your screen, and manually define what hsync vrefresh values your screen has
[04:17] <wills> zipper__: Ughhh...what's a manual?
[04:17] <zipper__> it's line 471
[04:18] <wills> zipper__: Actually, display only let's me use 86 Hz
[04:18] <zipper__> wills, heh, i know... but seriously though, try scanning the manufactures website, they usually have manuals for download
[04:18] <wills> zipper__: Strange, considering it's an LCD
[04:18] <zipper__> strange indeed
[04:18] <wills> zipper__: I really think that it picked up my CRT during install
[04:18] <wills> zipper__: And based everything on that
[04:18] <zipper__> even more strange why it insists on running 1280x1024... i think that might be connected to the other output in the card
[04:18] <zipper__> probably
[04:19] <wills> zipper__: I'm just going to reinstall
[04:19] <zipper__> you could try that
[04:19] <zipper__> without your crt plugged in ofcourse
[04:19] <wills> zipper__: Kubuntu's got an amazingly fast install
[04:19] <zipper__> but if it doesnt work, it is fix-able
[04:19] <wills> zipper__: Alright, goodnight
[04:19] <zipper__> thank you, and good luck
[04:19] <zipper__> btw
[04:19] <zipper__> nevermind
[04:20] <zipper__> afk
[04:20] <intelikey> so i have to run *-23-386 for nvidia drivers to work ?    cause there is not restricted 26-386  ???
[04:20] <zipper__> intelikey, i think it's in the multiverse repositories
[04:20] <zipper__> not sure
[04:21] <intelikey> i have all repos enabled  unless you go to strange urls
[04:21] <archangel_> !code
[04:21] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[04:21] <archangel_> !compiler
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <archangel_> !gcc
[04:22] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:22] <bigbill52a> why would kdm not start xwindows...it just loops back to the log in screen?
[04:22] <intelikey> apt-cache search restricted | grep -e '-26-'
[04:24] <intelikey> bigbill52a auth file not owned bt you   would be one reason     set to some other desktop environment that is no longer installed  could be anothere
[04:24] <archangel_> thanks, ubotu
[04:24] <archangel_> u r my h3r0!
[04:24] <grizzly> konqueror and krusader both don't show any files in ftp://ftphost.ripway.com/ . gftp shows the files. Whats up ?
[04:25] <zipper__> intelikey, apparently i remembers wrong. I only have 23-386 as well
[04:25] <bigbill52a> it worked and then i rebooted the computer and it didnt...desktop environment was not changed
[04:25] <zipper__> remembers wrong? I should go to bed
[04:25] <bigbill52a> i eventually had to reinstall...
[04:25] <intelikey> at least you didn't sic the bot on me that time...
[04:26] <bigbill52a> what is the auth file?  where is it located?
[04:26] <ivan`> what's the launchy-like application launcher called?
[04:26] <ivan`> where you do find-as-you-type to launch an app
[04:27] <intelikey> bigbill52a in your home dir    ~.*auth*     you can safely remove both    err all
[04:27] <grizzly> !ftp
[04:27] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[04:28] <intelikey> bigbill52a assuming default home    /home/bill/.*auth*    or something like that
[04:28] <zipper__> intelikey, cmon, drop it already. I got the impression you had a problem selecting the driver cus' you never read the guide, thats why i acted the way i did. Again, how was i supposed to know differently? It took you quite some time to tell what was really the problem. Not worth getting all that excited about really
[04:28] <d3vil> Hi
[04:28] <d3vil> Can someone tell me how to install Themes on Kubuntu?
[04:28] <bigbill52a> i see other hidden files but nothing with .auth
[04:29] <d3vil> Can anyone tell me how to install Themes on Kubuntu???~
[04:29] <zipper__> d3vil, we heard you the first time
[04:30] <d3vil> I am sorry.
[04:30] <zipper__> d3vil, if someone is able and willing to help you, that person will do so. No need to ask your question several times in a row
[04:30] <intelikey> zipper__ i did drop it.  hehhe  another thing you didn't know.  i ignored your ip when you crossthreded me  and then could lift the ignore... that's why i finally loged out and back in here so i could see what you were doing,   knew you were still talking cause others were addressing you  :>
[04:31] <maltaethiron> hey guys, im trying to install google earth, and the wiki instructions say that when im in konsole, to "cd" into the directory that i saved the google earth bin file...how would i do that?
[04:31] <zipper__> intelikey, then it's entirely your own fault you missed out on a bounch of links for lists/forums. I kept on talking to you, trying to help you.
[04:31] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: cd /path/to/directory
[04:32] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: cd = Change Directory
[04:32] <maltaethiron> thanks hawkwind
[04:32] <zipper__> intelikey, you could've got your problem solved over an hour ago, but oh well, it all worked out anyway. No harm done
[04:32] <Jucato> Hawkwind: are you the same guy from KubuntuForums.Net?
[04:32] <Hawkwind> Jucato: There had best only be one of me :)
[04:32] <Jucato> was intelikey able to find the correct driver?
[04:32] <Jucato> Hawkwind: lol! :-D
[04:32] <Hawkwind> Jucato: The world couldn't handle more than one of me :P
[04:32] <d3vil> zipper_: can u help me?
[04:33] <intelikey> zipper__ not entirely   i tried several times to remove the ignore   something about  @port  that was triping up my irc client....
[04:33] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: you've truley made me smile since ive been cominig to this chat...so helpful
[04:33] <maltaethiron> so heres to you.......*cheers*
[04:33] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Thanks :)
[04:33] <zipper__> intelikey, your fault you're not using a good irc client/don't know your irc client well enough
[04:34] <intelikey> ha
[04:34] <intelikey> ;/
[04:34] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I think you replied to my post over at KFN about server install + kde-core?
[04:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yeppers
[04:35] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I'm having fun right now installing stuff.
[04:35] <darkyoshi372> Hello, when I try to rip music using KAudioCreator and Lame, it tells me "malformed URL". What does that mean?
[04:35] <intelikey> i've used this client for several years   that's the only time it has ever failed to lift a ban    and if it's not  @port  that it's bugging out on,  then something is wrong with this version.
[04:35] <doppelganger_> stupid question, but where do i change the desktop icon font color? i've looked through all of the options but can't seem to find it. I've somehow (without hitting anything) changed them to black with a form of "for transparency" on them
[04:35] <intelikey> s/ban/ignore/
[04:36] <Jucato> server install + x-window-system-core + xterm + kde-core + irssi = only 483 packages installed
[04:36] <Jucato> versus the 900+ installed by default with Kubuntu
[04:36] <zipper__> intelikey, either way, if blame is to be put upon either of us, i dont think it's fair i am to take the blame for your irc clients malfunction
[04:36] <crimsun> I'm surprised you choose xterm.
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Heh kewl kewl.
[04:37] <Jucato> crimsun: well, I thought I needed it for Konsole. I might remove it later :-D
[04:37] <intelikey> never said you should
[04:38] <Jucato> I don't have USplash installed yet, but so far, my system boot around 20 seconds? 10 seconds faster than the regular Kubuntu install
[04:38] <zipper__> intelikey, doesnt matter, lets drop it, i'm too tired for this
[04:38] <Jucato> KDE also loads less than 10 seconds, but then again, this is jut the barebones
[04:38] <Jucato> s/jut/just
[04:38] <doppelganger_> can someone help with desktop icon color changing real quick?
[04:39] <zipper__> doppelganger_, try asking your question instead of asking to ask a question
[04:39] <doppelganger_> i've already tried my man
[04:39] <zipper__> ah
[04:39] <zipper__> you did
[04:39] <zipper__> missed it
[04:39] <doppelganger_> ;)
[04:40] <Hawkwind> doppelganger_: kcontrol -> Appearance or Look & Feel
[04:40] <doppelganger_> it just somehow changed...  i was just messing around with multiple desktops, and now somehow it's changed from white to black, with some sort of "for transparency" look like the fonts are on my taskbar
[04:40] <intelikey> jucato have you tried blackbox ?
[04:40] <foot> Bearcat: haelp haelp...
[04:41] <Jucato> hmm... I somehow like the default KDE 3.5 themes/appearance than what Kubuntu has installed by default
[04:41] <Jucato> intelikey: I'm trying not to change my desktop environment and window manager
[04:41] <intelikey> k
[04:41] <Jucato> somehow, the *box WM's didn't really appeal to me, when it comes to appearance...
[04:42] <zipper__> Jucato, you installed the 'server' kubuntu, and then added x+kde+whatever yourself?
[04:42] <intelikey> just going by the speed referances
[04:42] <zipper__> i was wondering how it was possible to only get the very basics installed
[04:42] <Jucato> zipper__: not Kubuntu Server, but the "server" install option using the Alternate Install CD
[04:42] <Jucato> the Alternate install CD has several install options: normal, expert, server, server-expert
[04:42] <doppelganger_> hawkwind- i guess i'm not seeing it bro
[04:42] <zipper__> Jucato, isn't the server install option available on the live-cd?
[04:43] <bigbill52a> kdeinit could not launch...why does that happen with konqueror...etc
[04:43] <Jucato> zipper__: I don't think so. The Live CD installer basically just copies everything from the Live CD to the hard drive
[04:43] <darkyoshi372> when I try to rip music using KAudioCreator and Lame, it tells me "malformed URL". What does that mean?
[04:43] <dreadyburnz> got a lexmark z600 series printer isntalled on my network pc with xp installed etc, how do i install the drivers on this pc with unbuntu on it?
[04:43] <zipper__> yeah i know
[04:43] <zipper__> oh well, cant be bothered to burn out another cd, but it's nice to know i have the option, Thank you
[04:44] <Jucato> zipper__: sure. It's quite an experience. It tested my apt-getting/aptituding/nanoing skills
[04:44] <Jucato> and I'm glad I took that Ubuntu Classroom session and learned irssi
[04:45] <intelikey> bigbill52a drop into a console { [alt] +[ctrl] +[f2]  }   login and type  kdesession -display :0   and read the error message
[04:45] <intelikey> i think kdesession  maybe kde-session
[04:45] <zipper__> i used to install debian from a very old version cd i had... i'm somewhat comfortable with those things, but it takes a lot of time to setup your whole system the way you wanted it, which is mainly why i'm trying out kubuntu
[04:45] <intelikey> i don't have kde can't check
[04:45] <zipper__> Jucato, ubuntu classroom?
[04:46] <Jucato> zipper__: yeah. but I was quite bored with the Kubuntu defaults. I wanted to be able to tweak/customize/optimize things a bit w/o having to recompile everything, and w/o leaving the comfort of Kubuntu :-D
[04:46] <Jucato> zipper__: yeah, a bi-weekly IRC class for Ubuntu
[04:46] <Jucato> let me get the URL for that
[04:47] <zipper__> never heard of ubuntu classroom
[04:47] <Jucato> the first topic was Introduction to IRC, and they taught about irssi, the CLI IRC client, and Konversation
[04:47] <intelikey> can't imagen
[04:47] <Kuto> Jucato: bi-weekly class on this chan??
[04:47] <Jucato> nah, not on this channel.
[04:47] <Jucato> on #ubuntu-classroom
[04:47] <zipper__> Jucato, well, if you're only installing the basics, with no kde/gnome, applications or nothing, there really isnt much difference between kubuntu, ubuntu and debian
[04:47] <Kuto> aah
[04:48] <Jucato> except that the packages are still customized for Kubuntu
[04:48] <Hawkwind> !class
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about class - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <intelikey> with no kde or gnome  it's not ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:48] <Hawkwind> !classroom
[04:48] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[04:48] <intelikey> that's why i run  ibunt
[04:48] <Jucato> thanks Hawkwind :-D
[04:49] <doppelganger_> hawkwind: when you get some time could find the exact place where the desktop icon font color settings are?
[04:49] <Jucato> well, it still uses the Ubuntu base, so it's still basically ubuntu
[04:49] <doppelganger_> i've looked all through that mammy
[04:49] <zipper__> intelikey, well, technically speaking it still is the distro... everything that makes it different that the others are removed however
[04:49] <soulrider> Jucato: you got ADSL right?
[04:49] <Jucato> soulrider: yeah
[04:49] <soulrider> ok
[04:49] <Hawkwind> doppelganger_: I don't use KDE, at all.  I use E17.  But it's in kcontrol
[04:49] <soulrider> do you get disconnected by your ISP?
[04:49] <soulrider> for an IP change
[04:49] <intelikey> zipper__ not here it's not   :)
[04:49] <doppelganger_> yeah, i've been looking everywhere..  can't find it for shit
[04:49] <zipper__> intelikey, how come?
[04:50] <doppelganger_> and i didn't change it to begin with, which is the kicker of it all
[04:50] <Jucato> soulrider: hm... I'm not sure if it's for an IP change, but I sometimes get disconnected for a few seconds
[04:50] <soulrider> ok
[04:50] <intelikey> nothing recognizable about it.
[04:50] <soulrider> dies it reconnect ?
[04:50] <soulrider> i get disconnected every 12 hours but i dont know if it will reconnect
[04:50] <intelikey> i've redone everything but dpkg
[04:50] <Jucato> intelikey: except that you're still using the Ubuntu repositories, the packages configured and customized for Ubuntu
[04:50] <intelikey> that's what i said
[04:50] <zipper__> intelikey, true, but it's still the given distro. Doesnt have to be recognizable to be the distro
[04:51] <Jucato> for example, I installed kde-core, not kubuntu-desktop, but KDM was still configured by default to use a Kubuntu KDM theme, which was not installed
[04:52] <Jucato> even if you're not using the distro's default settings (ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, etc), you are still using the distro's packages. they will always have <package version>-<debian version>ubuntu<ubuntu version> in their name
[04:52] <bigbill52a> intelikey  command not found
[04:52] <intelikey> i don't think you can still call it *buntu   first of all perl and python are not installed  no lsb*   secondly i wrote my own init system    it would be impossable for a novice to duplicate this system.
[04:53] <intelikey> bigbill52a use tab completion
[04:53] <Jucato> intelikey: it's still *buntu, if you consider that Ubuntu means both a GNOME-based distro and a "brand"/umbrella project
[04:53] <bigbill52a> what is tab completion
[04:54] <Jucato> just look at your packages, and you will see that they have "ubuntu" in their descriptions/names
[04:54] <intelikey> bigbill52a you type  kde   and hit the tab key   maybe two times.
[04:54] <intelikey> it liste the commands that start with kde
[04:54] <Jucato> anyway, need to log out, to check if KDE 3.5.4 won't be buggy :0D
[04:54] <bigbill52a> ok
[04:55] <actinic> Kubuntu now has a distributed Folding team!
[04:55] <actinic> http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=51238
[04:55] <intelikey> if what i'm running is still *buntu   then *buntu is still debian.
[04:55] <actinic> join up
[04:55] <actinic> and let's kick some ass
[04:56] <bigbill52a> there is no kdesession
[04:57] <intelikey> that maybe why it cant start.   you did look for kde-session  also didn't you.
[04:57] <soulrider> does anyone know of any connection managers i can use to manage my pppoe connection in an easy way
[04:57] <soulrider> without having to use pon adn poff
[04:57] <bigbill52a> let me try that
[04:57] <Ertain> Say, has anyone here used dvdstyler? Since when I encode a DVD, one of the videos just runs as normal, then suddenly stops, and resumes the video.  Any ideas?
[04:57] <Ertain> Btw, I encoded the video to DVD compliant MPEG video.  The audio part uses AC3 encoding.
[04:58] <bigbill52a> would i use synaptic to select kdesession?
[04:58] <intelikey> to install it ?
[04:58] <bigbill52a> yes
[04:59] <intelikey> kde-core
[04:59] <bigbill52a> ok
[04:59] <intelikey> yes any package manager
[04:59] <bigbill52a> i will check for kde-core
[04:59] <intelikey> in synaptic i presume
[05:00] <zipper__> why kde-core and not the kubuntu-desktop package?
[05:00] <Jucato> cool! KDE 3.5.4 didn't have the bug I had in Kubuntu!! whooppeee!
[05:00] <Jucato> kubuntu-desktop = contains the packages and settings customized for Kubuntu
[05:00] <intelikey> zipper__ as far as i know kdm stoped loading kde for him
[05:00] <Jucato> kde-core: the base, and I mean barebones, KDE installation
[05:01] <bigbill52a> i have kubuntu-desktop installed...i
[05:01] <zipper__> i see
[05:01] <soulrider> cani run a gnome app in kde?
[05:01] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Of course
[05:02] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Apps are *not* wm/de dependant
[05:02] <foot> question for all,  cp HcwMakoA.ROM /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/v4l-cx25840.fw  is telling linux to create a file in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/v4l-cx25840.fx ,  or what?
[05:02] <soulrider> ok, thanks Hawkwind
[05:02] <bigbill52a> i switched over to nautilus in kde..since i couldnt get konqueror to load text files while in kdesu konqueror
[05:03] <Jucato> Hawkwind: they are toolkit dependent, though :-D
[05:03] <Hawkwind> foot: Yes, that is correct
[05:03] <bigbill52a> it worked fine in user mode but not in sudo mode
[05:03] <Jucato> hmm... what to do next... what to do next...
[05:03] <intelikey> bigbill52a yep  that's what i said the first time.   you don't own  an  auth file.
[05:03] <intelikey>  sudo rm .*auth*
[05:04] <bigbill52a> how do i get an auth file?
[05:04] <intelikey>    .ICEauthority     most likely
[05:04] <intelikey>  sudo rm .*auth*
[05:04] <foot> Hawkwind: ok, so if is says 'nosuch file or directory' it is talking about the first part. yes?
[05:05] <intelikey> in the console and then try to login kde
[05:05] <sfkhooper> How can I make contact with someone from this channel who is offline at the moment? Is there any way to look up a user and leave a message?
[05:05] <intelikey> msg memoserv help
[05:05] <intelikey> /msg memoserv help
[05:06] <intelikey> maltaethiron help us help you.
[05:06] <maltaethiron> ok intelikey
[05:06] <maltaethiron> well
[05:06] <bigbill52a> i must be dense ...i looked in my /home/billy dir and could not find .auth file...is that where it should be or would it be in the root dir?
[05:06] <maltaethiron> the wiki says to cd to the directory which you saved the bin file to, which i did
[05:07] <maltaethiron> then it says to type the following line into command line:
[05:07] <intelikey> bigbill52a that's where    any file starting with  . is hiden.   just do like i said.
[05:07] <maltaethiron> # chmod +x  GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[05:08] <sfkhooper>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY croy56don
[05:08] <maltaethiron> which i do, although it doesnt look as if anything actually happens, but i dont get an error or anything
[05:08] <maltaethiron> THEN
[05:08] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: That's correct.  It won't show anything.  It does what it needs
[05:08] <intelikey> maltaethiron you don't really use  #   do you ?
[05:08] <zipper__> sfkhooper, awww, you should probably change your pass :P
[05:08] <maltaethiron> ...
[05:08] <bigbill52a> i had my show hidden files turned on....
[05:09] <maltaethiron> so you dont type that?
[05:09] <Hawkwind> No
[05:09] <maltaethiron> wow..
[05:09] <maltaethiron> hah
[05:09] <zipper__> maltaethiron, you just type 'chmod +x file.bin'
[05:09] <maltaethiron> thanks...ill see if it works now
[05:09] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: # represents a users bash prompt.  A $ represents roots bash prompt
[05:09] <intelikey> # = this line is a comment ignore it.
[05:09] <maltaethiron> mmm
[05:09] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Not in that case
[05:09] <maltaethiron> man, i just might have killed myself if i didnt have you guys
[05:09] <intelikey> on the cli  yes it does
[05:10] <intelikey> if you type # any thing it's simply ignored
[05:10] <Hawkwind> intelikey: The # is referring to it being done as user.  Read the wiki you'll understand
[05:10] <Hawkwind> intelikey: If he needed to be root, then it would have a $ instead
[05:10] <maltaethiron> theres a $ at the end of the line in konsole..should it be a #?
[05:11] <intelikey> i could care less about symbolism in a wiki   no the command line  that's a comment mark.
[05:11] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: You need to be normal user
[05:11] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Wrong
[05:11] <Kuto> hi there, i have a fresh installed of kubuntu in my box, how do i load the kde? should i apt-get the necessary tools? i need also mysql and apache installed.
[05:11] <intelikey> end of argument.
[05:11] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Look at your bash prompt
[05:11] <Hawkwind> Been that way for years and years
[05:11] <intelikey> tty3 [greg$~]
[05:11] <intelikey> that one ^
[05:11] <intelikey> tty24 [root#~]
[05:11] <intelikey> that one ^
[05:11] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: i need to be a normal user?  am i in some wrong mode or something?
[05:11] <Hawkwind> intelikey: The context in this case means he needs to be root, not user
[05:11] <intelikey> ??
[05:11] <tk> actinic: joined it ;)
[05:12] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: You can be either, depending on how you want it installed
[05:12] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: I recommend installing it as normal user
[05:12] <maltaethiron> and what am i?
[05:12] <intelikey> the fact that he typed   # blah   means it was a comment to bash  now drop it.
[05:12] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: I had it backwards, # is root, $ is normal user
[05:12] <maltaethiron> oh ok
[05:12] <maltaethiron> ty
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. someone want to check    http://www.adultswim.com/adultswimfix/index.jsp and see if they can get some of the videos to play?
[05:13] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Right. But you're still wrong as to the context the wiki states # and $ and you are misleading him
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> been twiddling with the firefox plugins - but cant seem to get any to work. :(
[05:13] <Hawkwind> Dr_Willis: Requires flash 8 or better
[05:13] <intelikey> Hawkwind that's a damnd lie.
[05:13] <intelikey> i never mentioned the wiki   you did.
[05:13] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Read the wiki d00d
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> Its got a indow media player button/logo however it looks like
[05:13] <Hawkwind> intelikey: I know you didn't, that's the problem
[05:14] <maltaethiron> man, you guys will go at it for hours, wont you
[05:14] <sfkhooper> zipper__: yeah :( I was told this:  [Notice]  -MemoServ- Type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[05:14] <intelikey> prolly not.
[05:14] <Hawkwind> intelikey: On the wiki it has # command to-do-here  That # is signifying the command is performed as root user
[05:15] <Hawkwind> intelikey: I doubt your wrote your own init scripts if you don't know the difference in # $ when it comes to a bash prompt.  You crack me up
[05:15] <zipper__> sfkhooper, i always types in passwords and stuff like that in the status window. That way, i dont risk pasting my pass to a public channel
[05:15] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: You get it working now ?
[05:16] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: kindof...it's installed and running...BUT the image is all way up high in the window..and like the first four fifths of it is cut off
[05:16] <maltaethiron> i see the bottom fifth, but its all the way at the top of the window
[05:16] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Huh ?  Can you take a screenshot
[05:16] <maltaethiron> and theres black underneath it
[05:16] <maltaethiron> ok hold on
[05:16] <intelikey> Hawkwind it must really hurt being that smart.
[05:17] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Ahhh, I've heard of others with that issue too
[05:17] <Hawkwind> intelikey: I just know how to read and I know when something is referring to # as root prompt, or $ as user prompt.  It's not hard to figure out for the rest of us, just you
[05:18] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Sorry *you* can't help someone with proper information.  Instead you want to brag about writing your own init scripts and naming your distro ibunt.  What a joke
[05:18] <intelikey> i always heard the fool was the twin of the wise,  sorry i mistook you for your brother.
[05:18] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Please remind me to *never* use anything you code, write, or build.  That's a damn scary thought
[05:18] <zipper__> intelikey, we all know your point about '#' being a comment mark, and we've accepted that. Now please accept the that in this case, the wiki symbolism actually was a big part of solving his problem
[05:18] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Welcome to ignore.  I won't let you give me wrong advice like you're doing to others here
[05:19] <zipper__> -the
[05:19] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: how do i get the screen shot to you
[05:19] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Upload it to a website, or there is free hosting out there.  You can even use pastebin for screenshots IIRC
[05:19] <intelikey> zipper__ i never had any problem with that to start with.
[05:19] <maltaethiron> ok, hold on...(photobucket ftw!!)
[05:19] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Then why are you arguing and giving out false info ?
[05:19] <zipper__> intelikey, then i dont understand what you guys are arguing about. I'm going to sleep
[05:19] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: That's it, photobucket
[05:20] <intelikey> zipper__ please notice whom is arguing.
[05:20] <foot> is anyone out there using a remote with thier pvr?
[05:20] <Hawkwind> Ummm, it takes 2 to argue.  No way around that
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Hawkwind,  unless you are my wife.. :P
[05:20] <intelikey> see what i mean
[05:21] <Hawkwind> Dr_Willis: LOL.  You have one of those too :P
[05:21] <Hawkwind> intelikey: The point is man, you are giving users incorrect information.  That is going to hurt someone if you continue by giving out the wrong info.  You tell them to do something that isn't right and then you'll be responsible for the fact that it's broken
[05:22] <Kuto> hi there, i have a fresh installed of kubuntu in my box, how do i load the kde? should i apt-get the necessary tools? i need also mysql and apache installed. anyone?
[05:22] <intelikey> quote my bad information please.
[05:22] <zipper__> intelikey, you're keeping the fire at him, by being so stubborn about your remark was correct when in fact, Hawkwind was the one who was on the right track. Either case, both of your answers would've helped the guy, and now you're both just beeing too theoretical and geeky about it. Yes, # is a comment mark. Yes, the wiki uses $ and # to refer to different users, now lets drop it alright?
[05:22] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/maltaethiron/googleearthwierd.png
[05:22] <Hawkwind> But anyways, I'm done.  I'll let you screw someone and then I'll let you explain to them how to fix it
[05:22] <zipper__> both of you, really
[05:23] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Yeah, I think that has something to do with flash.  I'm not sure
[05:23] <maltaethiron> f*ckin' flash!
[05:23] <maltaethiron> grahh
[05:23] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Or maybe it's java
[05:23] <intelikey> zipper__ that's what i said way up there %
[05:23] <intelikey> ^
[05:23] <zipper__> maltaethiron, you could use easyUbuntu to install flash
[05:24] <Hawkwind> I think Google Earth needs java, not flash.  I can't remember which
[05:24] <Bearcat> foot: you beeped me?
[05:24] <maltaethiron> im pretty sure its java actually
[05:24] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Yeah I think so too
[05:24] <foot> Bearcat: yup
[05:24] <Bearcat> foot: what's up?
[05:25] <foot> Bearcat: snaghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20518
[05:25] <maltaethiron> offtopic: if anyone wants to see my pretty biology disection rat (named John Love): http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/maltaethiron/pwnedsidefinal.jpg
[05:25] <zipper__> intelikey, haven't bothered to read your whole discussion, so i couldn't tell. I do however think Hawkwind makes a good point about spreading bad help (and no, i'm not taking a stand whether or not you did so). No help is better than bad help to be honest
[05:25] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20518
[05:25] <D3V1L> can someone tell me the simple steps to installing themes in kubuntu please????
[05:25] <foot> intelikey: I agree
[05:25] <intelikey> zipper__ i ask one more time  where is the bad help ?   please quote it for me.
[05:25] <Hawkwind> D3V1L: They come with a README on the kde-look.org site
[05:26] <maltaethiron> thats a sweet site btw
[05:26] <zipper__> intelikey, as i just said, i refuse to take a stand in this matter
[05:26] <maltaethiron> i caught it on digg
[05:26] <D3V1L> Hawkwind: Thanks Buddy.
[05:26] <Hawkwind> D3V1L: Basically you download it, and then in kcontrol you go to Themes and you can install it with the Install New Theme button
[05:26] <Bearcat> foot: one moment
[05:26] <intelikey> foot can you quote it for me ?
[05:26] <Bearcat> folks, is hotplug used in ubuntu or has it moved up to coldplug?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> lukewarmplug
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:27] <tk> there was no bad help given, just hawkwind acting as if intelikey was wrong when they were both talking about 2 different aspects of #
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> # - means its a comment. :P
[05:27] <Hawkwind> tk: I happened to be talking about the one that maltaethiron needed to know about, the one the wiki was referring to
[05:27] <zblach> can anyone help me install wammu?
[05:27] <zipper__> Dr_Willis, it could also refer to a root shell
[05:27] <Hawkwind> tk: Why intelikey went off on a different subject is beyond me.  But he was confusing the user in need of help, regardless
[05:27] <zipper__> Dr_Willis, as it does in the wiki
[05:28] <maltaethiron> lol @ dr_willis
[05:28] <tk> Hawkwind: misunderstandings happen, that doesnt mean you should attempt to make people believe that intelikey is gonna crash their computer or worse, destroy it
[05:28] <Parkotron> Ah, Linux. Where else could such a prolonged argument be based on a single character?
[05:28] <tk> Parkotron: javascript and the use of $ as a function ;)
[05:28] <Hawkwind> LOL tk
[05:28] <intelikey> Dr_Willis then you think i would mislead by pointing that out after asking     "did you type   #   ?"
[05:28] <Bearcat> foot: mkdir /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/
[05:28] <maltaethiron> so hawkwind: should i check my java plugins or what?
[05:29] <foot> intelikey: I dont know enough to follow much. though I have learned a bit in the few moments that I perused the konversation. I have been spending the last week (the first week of my linux use) trying to install a pvr card, and have gone thru 3 sites with bad info, fixing and learning at the same time. I dont know if you gave bad advise, but I know that trying as a newbe to figure out what is and is not good advise sucks ass. sorry if you
[05:29] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Probably so yes.
[05:29] <maltaethiron> aight
[05:29] <intelikey> Dr_Willis i really want to know,  cause Hawkwind made a mountain out of it.
[05:29] <tk> for what its worth, intelikey has been quite helpful and correct in his assesments and fixes of everything he's helped me with over the past week, and I havent seen a complaint about him in that time either
[05:29] <foot> Bearcat: cannot, no such file or dir
[05:29] <maltaethiron> intelikey, you guys both helped me out..but youre the one that keeps carrying on
[05:30] <maltaethiron> its behind us
[05:30] <maltaethiron> its fine really, i dont think any less of you
[05:30] <tk> its not you, its me... really! (famous last words of... so many)
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> ive seen many a wiki/site that i cut/paste commands from. that have extra # in the front that i have to then remove
[05:31] <tk> sorry, I couldnt resist that one
[05:31] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: I have heard of users that had java installed properly and still had that black screen error.  Not sure what causes it and what the fix is to be honest
[05:31] <zipper__> tk, he does usually gives great help, i agree. I think the main problem here is his attitude, mainly his stubborness
[05:31] <Parkotron> Has anyone here ever turned a (K)Ubuntu box into a router?
[05:31] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: This problem has occured on other distros as well with no known fix AFAIK
[05:31] <intelikey> Dr_Willis msg me your answer if you like.    i really want your take on it.
[05:32] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: It's really an odd problem, because obviously java is there, i can move that little sliver of earth
[05:32] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: its just cut off...really odd
[05:32] <tk> zipper__: it was a misunderstanding on both their parts that, it happens... but dont go saying the other person is gonna ruin peopls computers because of the misunderstanding
[05:32] <Kuto> can the kde desktop be installed using Kubuntu 6.06.1 cd? or should it be installed by apt-get?
[05:32] <maltaethiron> i love how other people are discussing it now
[05:33] <zipper__> Dr_Willis, yes? i think we've got settled on that a while ago. # can be a comment mark
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  heh from the gentoo and other sites ive seen. it would best if the # and prompts were some how outside the frame showing the actual commands to make cut/pasteing to the console easier. Is my take on it.
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> Other then that.. :P  i wasent paying attention
[05:33] <maltaethiron> heheh
[05:33] <tk> kuto: kubuntu uses the K desktop environment if thats what you are asking....
[05:33] <Hawkwind> Kuto: If it's Kubuntu, then it has KDE unless I'm misunderstanding your question
[05:33] <intelikey> Dr_Willis k
[05:33] <intelikey> thanks for replying.
[05:34] <zipper__> tk, i dont know intelikeys linux experience well enough to be the judge of that. But perhaps Hawkwind has been around him for a longer period of time than any of us
[05:34] <intelikey> polatitions anyway.      hehhe
[05:34] <Hawkwind> intelikey: If it makes you feel better, I'll be a man and step up and apologize for jumping on you.  I do apologize.  Now can we move on
[05:34] <shell75> hey all how do i get xchat 2.6.6 for kubuntu?
[05:35] <intelikey> Hawkwind what do you mean move on ?
[05:35] <Hawkwind> shell75: I have it on http://SeerOfSouls.com/
[05:35] <excitatory> shell75: you don't like konversation?
[05:35] <Hawkwind> shell75: I have a Ubuntu repo where I package Xchat.  Plus SoS is also listed on the http://xchat.org/download page :)
[05:36] <Hawkwind> intelikey: In other words, I apologize so let's drop it and help the users in need of help and forget about the damn arguement
[05:36] <intelikey> Hawkwind what argument ?
[05:36] <zipper__> intelikey, stop being a prick and accept his apology so we can get on with it. You know what he's talking about.
[05:37] <tk> its a shame I have to go back to work now....
[05:37] <tk> enjoy everyone :)
[05:37] <Hawkwind> zipper__: No need.  He's on ignore now.  Won't do any good
[05:37] <maltaethiron> bye tk
[05:37] <Hawkwind> tk: We'll keep the logs for ya :P
[05:37] <intelikey> zipper__ get on with it.
[05:37] <tk> cya maltaethiron, and I log everything Hawkwind ;)
[05:37] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: hahaha
[05:38] <tk> even though it says logging is off... :P
[05:38] <Hawkwind> Hah
[05:38] <intelikey> zipper__ do you answer when you see your nick highlighted ?
[05:39] <maltaethiron> hey, whos the operator of this channel?
[05:39] <intelikey> that's all i'm gona say about that :)
[05:39] <zipper__> intelikey, if there's something to answer, yes, mostly
[05:39] <shell75> hawkwind says its rpm file?
[05:39] <shell75> do i click the ubuntu one thats the rpm
[05:39] <Hawkwind> shell75: No.  Click on the Dep Packages tab at the top of the site
[05:40] <foot> Bearcat: I have searched around and cannot find the file hotplug/firmware/v4l-cx25840.fw
[05:40] <Hawkwind> shell75: You can then add the site as a source to your sources.list and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:42] <Parkotron> I've got some FLAC files that Xine refuses to play, but flac123 handles without complaint? Xine is properly set up to play FLACs; it's just these few that it won't play. Anyone have any ideas?
[05:43] <shell75> this site here? http://xchat.org/download
[05:43] <darkwolf> speaking of xchat - i have just installed kubuntu and can
[05:43] <foot> can someone give me 20 minutes of their time? this involves setting up a wintv-pvr 150. i am doing fairly well but...
[05:43] <darkwolf> *can't seem to run the command ./configure make
[05:44] <Bearcat> what's going on foot?
[05:44] <darkwolf> it has an error: "error: /bin/sh ./config.sub make failed"
[05:44] <foot> Bearcat: did you not look at the pastebin?
[05:44] <Bearcat> gaze what libpreludedb
[05:44] <Bearcat> foot: i did. Did the command not work?
[05:44] <intelikey> darkwolf configure make ?     tried venella  ./configure
[05:44] <intelikey> ?
[05:45] <foot> Bearcat: no it did not. mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/':No such file or directory
[05:45] <Hawkwind> shell75: http://SeerOfSouls.com/
[05:45] <Hawkwind> shell75: Go there, then click on the Deb Packages tab.  That is my site
[05:45] <darkwolf> could not run GLIBtest program
[05:45] <Bearcat> foot: try mkdir /usr/lib/hotplug
[05:46] <Hawkwind> shell75: You can then add SoS as a source to your sources.list and then do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:46] <intelikey> darkwolf mmm and you do have build-essential installed correct ?
[05:46] <foot> Bearcat: ok
[05:46] <darkwolf> so how do i re-install my glib?
[05:46] <darkwolf> pass
[05:46] <intelikey> !b-e
[05:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:47] <jd_> hey it's my first time on chat how does this work
[05:47] <grizzly> konqueror and krusader both don't show any files when I log into ftp://ftphost.ripway.com/ . gftp shows the files. Whats up ?
[05:47] <Bearcat> jd_: just like that :)
[05:47] <foot> now the first command worked Bearcat
[05:47] <jd_> is this just about kubuntu
[05:47] <Bearcat> foot: excellent. now try the original command again.
[05:48] <foot> Bearcat: I just did ;}
[05:48] <Bearcat> foot: (i forgot to add a switch to create parent directories)
[05:48] <grizzly> kbear doesn't works either btw
[05:48] <soulrider_> does anyone know foa  goof gui program i can use to manage all my networkc onnections, including pppoe ?
[05:48] <Bearcat> foot: so now you have a /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ directory?
[05:48] <foot> Bearcat: so mkdir creates the directory and cp copies. right?
[05:49] <foot> Bearcat: yup
[05:49] <Parkotron> soulrider: What do you mean by manage?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> !network-manager
[05:49] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[05:49] <foot> Bearcat: YEEESSSS!
[05:50] <intelikey> grizzly i don't know an app but i know how you can search for one.   apt-cache search network manager
[05:50] <Bearcat> foot: O.O
[05:51] <frank_> my ktorrent seem like to be crash
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> frank_,  oh? its beenrunning for over a week here.
[05:51] <frank_> what's the way can i solution that?
[05:51] <Parkotron> frank_: Mine doesn't crash, but it's been using 99.9% CPU usage for over twelve hours.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Parkotron,  heh - thats scary
[05:52] <frank_> no
[05:52] <shell75> how do i find super user?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> how many downloads?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[05:52] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:52] <Parkotron> frank_: What version are you using?
[05:52] <intelikey> oh grizzly sorry that was @ soulrider_   my bad.
[05:53] <frank_> nothing i can do ! when i openning the Ktorrent the x windows told Ktorrent has been crash
[05:53] <Parkotron> Dr_Willis: Only a couple downloads. I'm not sure what's going on. Everything is still very responsive, so it hasn't been an issue.
[05:53] <Parkotron> The only think it slows down is my OpenGL screensaver.
[05:54] <intelikey> shell75 in cli mode use "sudo"    for gui apps try "kdesu"
[05:54] <foot> Bearcat:  good things. I am progressing fabulisly. but I havent figured out how to register my username here so I cant do the private chat thing yet
[05:54] <shell75> whats cli
[05:54] <intelikey> foot /msg /nickserv help
[05:54] <shell75> im looking to edit packages and list
[05:55] <shell75> im use to using super user to do things
[05:55] <foot> intelikey: from a terminal?
[05:55] <shell75> point/click thing
[05:55] <Hawkwind> foot: No, here in IRC
[05:55] <Parkotron> shell75: Command Line Interface
[05:55] <Hawkwind> foot: /msg nickserv help
[05:55] <intelikey> shell75 cli == command line interface      gui == graphic user interface
[05:55] <Hawkwind> !register > foot
[05:55] <intelikey> foot in here
[05:56] <foot> !register
[05:56] <frank_> does someone konw about that problem
[05:56] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:56] <intelikey> and yeah i typod  the second / doesn't belong as Hawkwind pointed out.
[05:56] <shell75> trying to sudo in term but refuses to accept my pw
[05:56] <foot>  /msg nickserv !register > foot
[05:57] <Hawkwind> foot: /msg nickserv help
[05:57] <Hawkwind> foot: Just like that
[05:57] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[05:57] <foot> Hawkwind: I did, but tried to jump ahead.
[05:58] <intelikey> /msg nickserv regester <passwd>
[05:59] <shell75> the instructions on that site sucks tells ya what to do BUT doesnt explain how
[05:59] <intelikey> /msg chanserv help
[05:59] <shell75> i cant find sli or what ever ither
[05:59] <shell75> term in on desktop
[05:59] <shell75> not sure what to type in there to do waht i wanna do
[06:00] <intelikey> shell75 what do you want to do,  maybe i can show you what ot type
[06:00] <intelikey> ?
[06:01] <shell75> edit packes list
[06:01] <shell75> http://seerofsouls.com/ubuntu.html to this
[06:01] <intelikey> sources.list ?
[06:01] <shell75> ya
[06:01] <intelikey> k
[06:01] <Hawkwind> shell75: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:01] <shell75> in term?
[06:01] <Hawkwind> shell75: Type that, then add the line you want to the bottom of that file.  Then click save
[06:01] <intelikey> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:01] <Hawkwind> shell75: Yes, in a term
[06:02] <intelikey> yes in term
[06:02] <shell75> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:02] <Hawkwind> I even put in the top box there that you need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list as root/sudo
[06:02] <Hawkwind> shell75: Ignore it.  I've got a how-to on fixing that as well
[06:02] <intelikey> and kwrite or kate or any text editor you like.  even open office if you like  or nano...
[06:03] <Hawkwind> shell75: Read this post on my forums when you get done dealing with Xchat:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[06:04] <shell75> not working
[06:04] <shell75> driving me nuts
[06:04] <darkwolf> this is just trying everything it can to get under my skin
[06:05] <intelikey> what error now darkwolf ?
[06:05] <shell75> heck with it im gonna try a different os
[06:05] <darkwolf> i downloaded a .deb file and tried to let it do it's thing but kubuntu decided to hate me instead
[06:05] <Bearcat> O.o
[06:05] <darkwolf> dependancy problems preventconfig of xchat-common
[06:06] <intelikey> darkwolf what .deb ?   is it a ubuntu package ?
[06:06] <fut> Bearcat: sorry
[06:06] <darkwolf> yeah
[06:06] <darkwolf> xchat-common_2.6.1-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[06:06] <vale> Nickserv juan
[06:06] <intelikey> so now do a sudo apt-get install -f
[06:07] <intelikey> that should finish the install/config by pulling in the deps
[06:07] <vale> hi, somo body help me with wireless Ralink?
[06:08] <Bearcat> what'cha doing foot?
[06:09] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20520 take a look there are some errors towerds the bottom
[06:10] <vale> some speak spanish?
[06:10] <vale> alguien habla espaol?
[06:11] <Bearcat> foot: loading
[06:11] <Hawkwind> vale: Try in #Kubuntu-ES
[06:11] <foot> Bearcat: checking permissions
[06:12] <vale> thanks Hawkwind
[06:12] <maltaethiron> attention anyone who wants a rediculously cheap harddrive: http://digg.com/tech_deals/Holy_200_GB_HDD_for_58_Cents
[06:12] <vale> bye
[06:12] <Bearcat> foot: well, that's looking hopefull
[06:12] <maltaethiron> i freaked out when i saw this
[06:13] <intelikey> darkwolf it working for ya ?
[06:13] <darkwolf> no
[06:13] <darkwolf> it is not going anywhere
[06:13] <darkwolf> it just keeps dropping connection
[06:13] <foot> Bearcat: It looks like the permissions are read only, do the need to be able to modify? I shouldnt think so but...
[06:13] <intelikey> oooh yuvh      wireless ?
[06:14] <actinic> Dr_Willis, u there?
[06:14] <darkwolf> nah
[06:14] <darkwolf> wired
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Hmm?
[06:14] <actinic> Dr_Willis, yesterday u mentioned 'hidden grub menu' default to be very very stupid
[06:14] <intelikey> hmmm what nls are your repos ?   or generic ?
[06:14] <actinic> how do u remove
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> actinic,  uncomment/deltet it in the grub  menu.lst
[06:15] <darkwolf> nls?
[06:15] <intelikey> national mirror
[06:15] <darkwolf> all i'm getting is just 104 errors
[06:15] <actinic> ok, i'm searching for menu.lst
[06:15] <Bearcat> foot: i know we can get idtv workig, but i do not' know a whole lot about it specificly
[06:15] <darkwolf> nzarchive
[06:16] <fatejudger> how can I change the background in Konqueror for the file manager mode?
[06:16] <darkwolf> Err http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main libglib1.2 1.2.10-10.1build1
[06:16] <darkwolf>   Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer)
[06:16] <darkwolf> Get:2 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main libcupsys2 1.2.2-0ubuntu0                                                                                .6.06 [121kB]
[06:16] <darkwolf> Err http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main libcupsys2 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6                                                                                .06
[06:16] <darkwolf>   Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer)
[06:16] <foot> ok, anyone else here familiar with ivtv?
[06:16] <intelikey> darkwolf hmmm might try au or other locally close
[06:16] <damian_> i have a question
[06:16] <Admiral_Chicago> damian_, ask
[06:16] <darkwolf> sorry
[06:16] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: was it you that mentioned easyUbuntu earlier?
[06:17] <intelikey> in the sources.list
[06:17] <darkwolf> sorry
[06:17] <darkwolf> mean to paste: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main
[06:17] <damian_> I added a binary I want to be started at statup in /etc/init.d ...how do I get it to startup at startup?
[06:17] <seth> anyone have any idea regarding this situation: I installed Vista (which overwrote grub), then subsequently removed Vista, switched from bootmgr back to ntldr, and now I'm unable to reinstall grub (it corrupts the bootloader every time and nothing will boot until I run an XP fixmbr)
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> damian_, /home/user/.kde/Autostart?
[06:18] <damian_> Admiral_Chicago: it's a service that runs in the background
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> damian_,  depends on what it is.
[06:18] <intelikey> darkwolf dapper/main ???    not dapper main ???
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> damian_,  could put it in /etc/rc.local
[06:18] <darkwolf> no
[06:18] <damian_> Dr_Willis: I'll try that
[06:18] <maltaethiron> did hawkwind leave?
[06:18] <darkwolf> i literally copied and pasted from Konsole
[06:18] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[06:18] <damian_> Dr_Willis: do I have to do anything after putting it there?
[06:19] <Bearcat> foot: i don't think so
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> damian_,  its a script that gets ran on each reboot. be sure your commands  spawn to the background.
[06:19] <foot> Bearcat: so I changed the user and group.
[06:19] <intelikey> if that will work with the / in it it's new to me.   i won't say it wont cause i'm kinda new to apt    but try it without it
[06:20] <Bearcat> foot: can you print me out the "ls -l " of the hotplug directory?
[06:20] <Search4Lancer> ^^$#&^&*^*&( Firefox closing itself out of nowhere......
[06:21] <foot> why does kubuntu have root root as the default user and grupe when in kubuntu there is not really a user called root?
[06:21] <Jucato> !seen draik
[06:21] <ubotu> I last saw draik<EMAIL_ADDRESS>9h 16m 59s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[06:21] <Bearcat> foot: there is
[06:22] <foot> I know that there is root, yet it does cause som difficulty
[06:22] <intelikey> foot there is always a user called root in linux.
[06:22] <Bearcat> foot: that is to say, there is a user called root, but you don't have direct access to it
[06:23] <maltaethiron> so why would there be a user that i didnt create that i dont have direct access to?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> direct logging in as root is disabled.
[06:23] <intelikey> foot kubuntu has root as the default user ???    where ?   please explain ?
[06:23] <Search4Lancer> goddamnit it did it again, right in the middle of something!
[06:23] <Bearcat> intelikey: nowhere
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> you make a initial user - that user then has the 'sudo' powers.
[06:23] <Bearcat> if i used kubuntu it would drive me *nuts*
[06:23] <intelikey> Bearcat he's getting information some place...
[06:24] <Bearcat> intelikey: hmm?
[06:24] <maltaethiron> bearcat: why is there a user that we dont have direct access to?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> maltaethiron,  which user are you refering to?
[06:24] <maltaethiron> refering to root
[06:24] <Bearcat> maltaethiron: kubuntu is kinda a beginners distro. It's designed to keep you out of trouble
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> root is "SPECIAL"  :P
[06:24] <Bearcat> maltaethiron: root can do ANYTHNG
[06:25] <maltaethiron> so root = god?
[06:25] <maltaethiron> lol jk
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> you cant direct login to him.. ie: no gdm/kdm login, or console direct login.
[06:25] <foot> intelikey:  I am still trying to install ivtv for the wintv-pvr 150. making progress, but I have to go into the files and change permissions so that my main login can have access to be able to read the firmware. it is just another  thing to do. I am getting used to linux so these things are becomming less of a pain. but still a hassle
[06:25] <Bearcat> maltaethiron: for instance if you log in as root and type "rm -r /*" you entire hardrive will be erased.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Linux FUNdamentals.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> and perhaps all the hard drives. :P
[06:25] <maltaethiron> oh...that would be very bad
[06:25] <Bearcat> foot: i don't think that is the issue
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> time to read some Linux guides. :)
[06:25] <Bearcat> foot: leave them as root
[06:25] <intelikey> foot ah i stand under you now.
[06:25] <maltaethiron> heh, my uncle gave me some huge linux bible when he introduced me to ubuntu
[06:26] <Bearcat> foot: everything there is happenign in a runlevel that only root should have access to
[06:26] <foot> intelikey: dont look up
[06:26] <shocktrooper1> how to determine my isp?
[06:26] <Bearcat> shocktrooper1: your service provider?
[06:26] <foot> Bearcat: ok I will switch them back. but the files that it says it cant read are right there where it says it is looking for them!
[06:26] <shocktrooper1> isp address
[06:27] <maltaethiron> !google earth
[06:27] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[06:28] <Bearcat> it says it can't open them
[06:28] <shocktrooper1> I'm adding php and mysql in apache to make a site.  I need to find my isp address for some functions
[06:28] <Bearcat> foot: it says it can't open them, not that it cant find them..
[06:28] <Bearcat> can you paste that ls -l for me?
[06:28] <intelikey> your question might be restated as "why does linux install new filew with owner root"   the answer is that is default behaviour for the simple reason, anything that is owned by root is secure on the system.  the permissions are then set to something like 755 for executables  and  644  for docs and libs   that way users can read/execute but not alter them.
[06:28] <foot> Bearcat: right. why cant it open them? I will get it a knife if it wants one ;P
[06:29] <Bearcat> i donno. can you show me that ls -l ?
[06:29] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20522
[06:32] <foot> Bearcat: so from what I  read it all stems from not being able to load the irmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[06:33] <intelikey> foot the veriable that affects the exact permissions is the "umask" in /etc/profile or other configuration files    umask is read as   7-#  seven minus number  a umask of 022 will set a permission of 755 on executables   a umaks of 027 would set them 750     these numbers may seem strange to you  the first is owner perm   second is group perm  and then other perm (world)    7=wre  binary  1+1+1  6=wr-  or 1+1+0    and so fo
[06:34] <intelikey> that's conclusion to the former post ^
[06:35] <intelikey> errr transpose rw ^
[06:35] <intelikey> read write execute
[06:35] <foot> intelikey: ok the binary is over my head at the moment, but thank you. I think that will take a few more months for me to really get.
[06:36] <intelikey> ok.
[06:36] <rpug> heh. i'm attempting to make kubuntu run on a usb external hd. any tips?
[06:36] <intelikey> there 10 kinds of peopel in the world.  those that understand binarry and those that dont.
[06:37] <intelikey> :)
[06:37] <rpug> quoting thinkgeek shirts doesn't make you cool :p
[06:37] <Bearcat> foot: ok.
[06:37] <intelikey> never seen a thinking shirt rpug
[06:38] <foot> Bearcat: ok what?
[06:38] <Bearcat> foot: the grey box that says "The Hauppauge cards require firmware files, as the firmware is not stored in the ROMs on the card..."  Did you do all the commands in that box? One of them loads the file you need
[06:38] <foot> intelikey: rpug lol
[06:38] <intelikey> but that saying has been around over thirty years that i know of... probably much longer   doesn't surprise me that it made a tee shirt
[06:39] <foot> Bearcat: yes
[06:39] <Bearcat> foot: ahh. one moment
[06:39] <Bearcat> foot: i see something here
[06:41] <intelikey> foot Bearcat is probably on to the answer there, the error you posted mentioned error trying to load firmware did it not ?
[06:41] <foot> intelikey: yes
[06:42] <Bearcat> intelikey: yeah the instructions are talking about v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw and dmesg is looking for v4l-cx25840.fw
[06:42] <foot> intelikey: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[06:42] <Bearcat> so we have a version problem here
[06:42] <intelikey> yep
[06:42] <Bearcat> let me see if i can find the right file
[06:42] <foot> Bearcat: intelikey but wait theres more
[06:42] <intelikey> k
[06:44] <intelikey> foot any errors after the failed firmware could be caused by the failed firmware..... so unless it is another firmware error  it's prolly not relevent atm.
[06:44] <Bearcat> intelikey: he's missing files here
[06:45] <Bearcat> foot: there needs to be files in that dir that look like v4l-cx25840.fw
[06:45] <foot> intelikey: yes. I got that already. thanks. it is looking at the same file that is in there. I am looking at it now.
[06:45] <foot> Bearcat: yes there is one
[06:45] <Bearcat> foot: i don't see it in what you posted
 intelikey: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw <--- ?
[06:47] <foot> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20524
[06:48] <cybereden> hi
[06:48] <DFM> hi
[06:49] <intelikey> yeah i'd say that you need another file.   ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[06:49] <cybereden> i installed dapper recently, install w32codecs from adept, followed wiki, now cannot play wmv files, says it's encrypted or something or does not play normally. please help. tnx.
[06:49] <Bearcat> foot: oh! no.
[06:50] <Bearcat> foot: i need "ls -l /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware"
[06:50] <Bearcat> foot: sorry, i didn't ven see that it was the wrong dir
[06:50] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20525  I just typed it in
[06:51] <foot> Bearcat:  I am still not to fast at the changing directories.
[06:51] <Bearcat> foot: no problem
[06:51] <intelikey> hmmmm  :S
[06:52] <Bearcat> foot: was that an ls -l ? There shoud be permissions, ownerships and sizes listed
[06:53] <foot> Bearcat: nope I typed it in from the visual interface hang on
[06:53] <jorge___> hi, i was wondering, is there a way i can share a /dev/ within my lan?
[06:54] <cybereden> please help on kaffeine
[06:54] <Bearcat> foot: thank you
[06:55] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20527
[06:55] <intelikey> jorge___ nmap ?
[06:55] <Parkotron> cybereden: w32codecs doesn't support the latest version of wmv.
[06:55] <todd> ...damn, that was the easiest I've ever gotten into an irc room lol.
[06:55] <todd> .. eh, hi everyone.
[06:55] <todd> if anyone is even alive...
[06:56] <jorge___> nmap ?
[06:56] <jorge___> i want to share /dev/video
[06:56] <DFM> hi
[06:56] <intelikey> welcome to the channel todd
[06:56] <todd> Thanks
[06:56] <cybereden> Parkotron: thanks. what should i do then?
[06:56] <todd> I just wanted to know something real quick...
[06:56] <intelikey> jorge___ oh  hehhe i mis read you.  i read search  not share   my bad.
[06:57] <todd> Is a Windows install required in order to get WINE working?
[06:57] <jorge___> :)
[06:57] <insanekane> todd: no
[06:57] <DFM> no
[06:57] <todd> Does it have to read files from the windows partition, or does it have libraries built in..?
[06:57] <darkwolf> how can i install my dev tools
[06:57] <Parkotron> cybereden: If you can't get the file is some other format, you'll have to use a Windows machine.
[06:57] <insanekane> todd: it has libs built in
[06:57] <Bearcat> foot: oh! i think i see it
[06:57] <darkwolf> they are screwed i think
[06:57] <darkwolf> i.e. glib
[06:57] <todd> Oh ok. So, I installed WINE through Automatix (this is fresh install of Kubuntu).
[06:58] <todd> Haven't configured it yet.
[06:58] <todd> ... gonna try that out now actually . Last time I did it on my other machine I think I made half the internet explode.Heh that would be great on video ...
[06:58] <intelikey> todd built in but some dlls you may have to dl to get some things to work  and some thing just plain wont work piriod.
[06:58] <todd> Yea i understand its hit or moss.
[06:58] <Parkotron> cybereden: Or maybe you could mess around VMWare or wine or something else along those lines, but that seems excessive just to watch a video file.
[06:58] <todd> ...err, miss even,
[06:59] <DFM> I just added repos and downloaded through apt
[06:59] <Bearcat> foot: fair warning, i'm going to bed in an hour. I have a very early morning
[06:59] <cybereden> Parkotron: thanks. i'll look for a converter. good idea.
[06:59] <plugs> since i started using my ipod with kubuntu, it can only see 256 songs.
[06:59] <cybereden> Parkotron: as much as possible, i do want to stick with my linux
[07:00] <todd> So where would I get these DLLs if I needed them? Like, if I tried to run a Windows progra in WINE...and the it wouldn't work, would it tell me what DLL I need? Then I can just... google for that file and download it..? I assume that's how it would work, but I haven't messed with Linux in a while.
[07:00] <foot> Bearcat: fair nuff. youve givin me many hourse on this so far, and I am eminintly thankfull.
[07:00] <toxicfume> Hi all
[07:00] <Parkotron> cybereden: Can't blame you there.
[07:00] <Bearcat> foot: no problem. What are fiends for?
[07:00] <todd> This keyboard SUCKS. The n key is sticking, heh.
[07:00] <cybereden> question: i cannot make my MA-620 IR to work. please help.
[07:00] <intelikey> todd yeah
[07:00] <foot> intelikey:  have you been following this very far?
[07:00] <intelikey> foot no.
[07:00] <todd> ...lol.
[07:00] <toxicfume> I have a perfectly working installation of Kubuntu, but now I want to move this installation from this partition to a different, bigger partition, how can i do that? And how can i make sure the bootmanager doesn't mess up? Please help, thanks!
[07:01] <vale> i need help with rt2400
[07:01] <jorge___> intelikey, do you know where can i find some information about this topic?
[07:01] <intelikey> foot and like Bearcat i also will be leaving shortly.
[07:01] <Bearcat> intelikey: we're trying to install ivtv, which i understand is a challenge for anyone
[07:01] <foot> intelikey: ok thanks for what youve done
[07:01] <todd> What I really want to know, is if there is a backup program similar to System Restore in Windows XP... (cough) but the point is, I want a program that can back the system if I decide to mess with XGL...or...system stuff and break my install. Would have to have to reistall everytime.
[07:02] <intelikey> jorge___ abut wine ?
[07:02] <intelikey> about wine ?
[07:02] <Bearcat> ok foot, let me study this for a minute or two
[07:02] <jorge___> no, i need to share /dev/video0 within my lan, so i can use it from any pc
[07:02] <intelikey> jorge___ or sharing on lan  what topic ?
[07:02] <intelikey> ok
[07:03] <intelikey> ah....   thinking.
[07:03] <intelikey> actually no...
[07:03] <jorge___> lol
[07:04] <jorge___> ok, thanks intelikey, but you think it would be doable?
[07:04] <intelikey> google may help   http://google.com/linux and search    if no one in here or #ubuntu   can help ask in  ##linux
[07:04] <jorge___> ok thnks
[07:04] <intelikey> jorge___ no doubt it is
[07:05] <intelikey> jorge___ i have never yet asked linux to do anything that it couldn't do.
[07:05] <jorge___> lol
[07:05] <jorge___> u're right
[07:05] <intelikey> i believe it's the most powerful os in the world bar none.
[07:05] <jorge___> it just came to me
[07:06] <jorge___> i agree
[07:06] <hansx> moin
[07:06] <hansx> i'm looking for an usenet client for kde
[07:07] <Bearcat> foot: i may have found something but the page is in Russian. Luckily Konqueror can translate it (look at the Tools...Traslate" item :)
[07:08] <foot> Bearcat: SWWEEET
[07:08] <plugs> my ipod can only see 256 of its songs, what should i do?
[07:08] <plugs> this has been happening since i've been using kubuntu
[07:09] <ronnie_> I have a perfectly working installation of Kubuntu, but now I want to move this installation from this partition to a different, bigger partition, how can i do that? And how can i make sure the bootmanager doesn't mess up? Please help, thanks!
[07:10] <todd> Ronnie, how big is your HDD?
[07:11] <todd> How big is your current linux partition, what is it formatted in, and whats the size of the new partition, and what is IT formatted in?
[07:11] <todd> ext3, reiserfs ...ect?
[07:11] <todd> And why are you wanting to do that (wil help me figure out how to help) ...
[07:12] <todd> aaand pretty sure my connection just DIED.
[07:25] <charles1952> HELP!!! I'm back in BillGate's Land becasue I can no longer log on to Kubuntu...I'm a newbie to linux....but already addicted...and now I'm locked out. <gasp> Is anyone available that is an advanced user that can lend a hand???
[07:25] <foot> maltaethiron: you bored and want to think for a bit?
[07:25] <Bearcat> foot: i found a ivtv mailing list for help. I'm gonna search the archives
[07:25] <maltaethiron> sure foot, why not
[07:26] <hansx> I'm looking for an usenet client, could anybody help me?
[07:26] <foot> maltaethiron: ok I am in the end of installing the ivtv drivers and dmesg cant open the folder that is where it is looking.
[07:27] <foot> maltaethiron:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20527
[07:27] <abattoir> charles1952: could you explain your situation a bit more? can you see the login screen? does it not log you in after you enter your password? is your password right?
[07:27] <Bearcat> maltaethiron: we are following this: http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
[07:27] <maltaethiron> ok, lemme take a look
[07:28] <maltaethiron> ill try to help you guys, but mind you i'm a noob
[07:28] <Bearcat> maltaethiron: this is his dmesg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20520
[07:28] <charles1952> abattoir: Yes...I had installed some new programs from the universal repository...
[07:28] <maltaethiron> but i can try to think
[07:28] <abattoir> charles1952: xgl/compiz by any chance?
[07:28] <charles1952> and one of them was to configure user security and boot options...I forget the programs name because I grabbed about 10 different files....
[07:29] <abattoir> charles1952: and i asked a lot of questions... yes for which one? :P
[07:30] <charles1952> well...I logged off to go out for awhile...didn't run any programs....when I restarted the machine it takes me to logon screen...then will only take me to a Bash window...when I close...
[07:30] <charles1952> Bash it returns me to the logon screen again.
[07:30] <charles1952> and my password is right
[07:31] <charles1952> whew
[07:31] <abattoir> charles1952: ok, so you boot up, you see a root prompt, when you quit that prompt, everything boots up normally... right?
[07:31] <maltaethiron> foot: i love how it asks you if you put the firmware in the correct directory
[07:31] <maltaethiron> foot: but sorry bro, i got nothin
[07:32] <charles1952> No...I boot...it takes me to the Kubuntu logon screen...I enter my password...and then it takes me to a Bash shell...but won't let me go to the regular GUI
[07:32] <foot> maltaethiron: thanks for looking.
[07:32] <charles1952> When I close the Bash screen, it returns me to the login prompt.
[07:32] <maltaethiron> np foot
[07:33] <charles1952> (I'm in a closed loop)
[07:33] <SpAwN> charles1952, so it doesnt boot to cli?
[07:33] <charles1952> No
[07:33] <charles1952> only to a Bash session
[07:33] <SpAwN> charles1952, edit /etc/inittab
[07:34] <charles1952> ok...and what should I change in that shell file
[07:34] <charles1952> ??
[07:34] <SpAwN> so it runs in init 5....
[07:35] <SpAwN> i forget the exact line....
[07:35] <SpAwN> !init
[07:35] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:36] <Bearcat> well foot, i'm looking at this: http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware
[07:36] <SpAwN> charles1952, or u can try when u get to the root prompt
[07:36] <Bearcat> foot: however, it just gives me more feelings of "huh"? becuse i don't know how to check to see what version of ivtv you have
[07:36] <SpAwN> charles1952, type /etc/init.d/kdm star
[07:36] <SpAwN> * charles1952, type /etc/init.d/kdm start
[07:37] <foot> bea just a ces
[07:37] <foot> Bearcat: just a sec
[07:37] <charles1952> okay...I'll try all these suggestions...you have all been helpful....Hope to come back and thank you personally from my new installation!!!
[07:37] <SpAwN> charles1952, that command will start the gui
[07:37] <charles1952> great!
[07:38] <SpAwN> and u will at least have a gui for the mean time...u can set up the puter to start in runlevel 5 which is the gui
[07:38] <charles1952> Thanks again to all of you..great support community!
[07:38] <SpAwN> np
[07:38] <charles1952> bye 4 now while I go fix things up
[07:39] <foot> Bearcat: well I have two versions on the comp. 0.4.4  0.4.6 but we just did the install for 0.4.4
[07:39] <noiesmo> I'm doing an upgrade from dapper to edgy and openoffice is giving me hassles and I am unable to use apt-get -f install as it ends with a broken pipe error how can i force remove of openoffice to reinstall later
[07:39] <Bearcat> foot: hmm
[07:39] <plugs> is it possible to boot off an ipod?
[07:39] <plugs> using usb
[07:40] <foot> Bearcat: this is what happens when you start over to make a triple install effort.
[07:40] <Bearcat> foot: lol
[07:40] <Bearcat> no doubt
[07:43] <maltaethiron> foot and bearcat: im still here rootin for you guys on the sidelines
[07:43] <Bearcat> thank
[07:43] <foot> thx maltaethiron
[07:43] <maltaethiron> heh
[07:43] <maltaethiron> np
[07:43] <Bearcat> this is fsking rediculous
[07:54] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:55] <Bearcat> foot: sorry, man. I'm fading out
[07:55] <foot> Bearcat: me too
[07:55] <Bearcat> foot: i need to call it a night
[07:55] <foot> Bearcat: love ya, sleep well
[07:55] <Bearcat> foot: you too. I'll be around tomorrow night
[07:56] <foot> Bearcat: I gotta get up fairly early roo
[07:56] <foot> too
[07:56] <Bearcat> laters foot
[07:56] <Bearcat> *scampers off*
[07:56] <foot> Bearcat: night
[07:57] <shell75> hawkwind u still here?
[07:58] <shell75> anyone know the site that tells ya about the updates options for kubuntu for dep packages?
[07:59] <lhds>  i have downloaded and made deb packs for ati ver 8.24.8 i have made a previous install of drivers vers 8.27 but i uninstalled with synaptic. but when i sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx it asks me to install the 8.27 vers ... how to remove them completely?
[07:59] <lhds> (08:59:25) greyballoon: farous: I think I must have lost the device
[08:00] <volvogouy> any amarok pros in here? they seem a bit quiet on their own channel. (i'm using kubuntu. hehe)
[08:03] <cybereden> hi
[08:03] <noiesmo> is there a file I can edit to remove a dpkg-divert
[08:03] <cybereden> how to get internet connection using bluetooth on my palm?
[08:06] <wolfmanz> can you get gimp shop from adept?
[08:07] <Jucato> wolfmanz: last time I checked, no
[08:07] <volvogouy> wolfmanz: i just checked - you can't.
[08:08] <volvogouy> i've been searching for a little while now and haven't found an answer, so i thought i'd ask here. can amarok save the album artwork it fetches in the id3 tags or only in it's own database?
[08:21] <maltaethiron> foot, bearcat: any luck?
[08:22] <foot> nope. he went to bed and I am about to follow
[08:22] <maltaethiron> sounds like a plan, its freakin two in the morning
[08:27] <tobias_> how do i use an external monitor on my portable? I have to reboot to get it working, is there a way to not reboot to make it work?
[08:27] <tobias_> i need the "use external monitor now!" button
[08:28] <pressbuttan2win> how can I get mkfs.jffs2 on the live CD?
[08:28] <maltaethiron> well, do you plug the moniter in when the computer's off?
[08:28] <maltaethiron> or on
[08:28] <tobias_> maltaethiron: I plug it in before i reboot
[08:28] <tobias_> maltaethiron: and when it has finished rebooting, it works fine
[08:29] <tobias_> maltaethiron: and when it has finished rebooting, it works fine
[08:29] <tobias_> opps
[08:29] <tobias_> sorry
[08:29] <maltaethiron> heh np
[08:29] <maltaethiron> hmm