[00:01] <dalkeehon> as someone that never took classes of music and learned just playing an instrument without even using sheets etc i think the mostly i use audacity and rackarrack
[00:02] <dalkeehon> and even i connect my pedal to rackarrack to make it sound more crispy lol
[00:02] <holstein> ive never used rakarrack without jack
[00:02] <dalkeehon> any reason?
[00:02] <holstein> i dont have a situtation where i dont need jack running
[00:02] <holstein> i can route rakarrack anywhere with jACK
[00:03] <holstein> TBH, i didnt know it had a standalone mode
[00:04] <dalkeehon> i just plug the guitar to the microphone input
[00:04] <holstein> right
[00:04] <dalkeehon> and tell rackarrack that is the line in
[00:04] <holstein> i have an interface that is appropriate to recieve a guitar level input
[00:04] <dalkeehon> cool
[00:05] <holstein> but, i dont use it like an effects processor much
[00:05] <holstein> dalkeehon: you might enjoy #opensourcemusicians
[00:05] <holstein> lots of folks there doing different things and sharing music
[00:05] <dalkeehon> lemme check
[10:14] <jarnos> Hi. Is it possible to adjust lipsync of a video when converting the video?
[10:45] <alalis> hey do anybody know about the sound driver in 13.10 not working?
[10:46] <alalis> I decided to install ubuntu studio on my asus for 3d design
[10:49] <zequence> alalis: Depends on which driver/device you mean. The easiest way to make sure is to try the live DVD
[10:49] <alalis> yeah i know but i decided to install it on a asus g750j
[10:50] <alalis> lol
[11:51] <studio-user096> :-)
[13:44] <r3v0> hello
[13:44] <r3v0> ??
[13:45] <r3v0> just installing Ubuntu studio 13.10 on my desktop, and be bored cause it's still running and running and running ^
[16:42] <chemist> hello everyone
[16:42] <chemist> I've got a question to ask. Can you sync ardour and lmms to record/playback at the same time? .... like for example if a button in one application triggers the other one to play at the same time?
[16:53] <zequence> chemist: Don't know how well lmms supports jack.
[16:53] <zequence> chemist: See if there are any options for jack transport
[16:54] <chemist> well i am using jack to connect output of lmms to an input track in ardour
[16:54] <chemist> and no problems so fart
[16:54] <chemist> -t
[16:54] <chemist> ;D
[17:01] <zequence> chemist: I saw a ticket of someone wishing for midi transport control for lmms, but it was still open
[17:01] <zequence> chemist: I can't seem to find anything about jack transport either
[17:01] <chemist> well...back to trimming then :D
[17:02] <zequence> chemist: maybe you can find someone who knows more about lmms on #opensourcemusicians
[17:13] <chemist> ok thanks anyway... another question
[17:13] <chemist> can you do a time stretch in ardour without affecting the pitch?


[00:02] <claydoh_teleptha> /nick clay-telepathy
[00:02] <claydoh> lol
[00:32] <apachelogger> who wants to see something awesome?
[00:33] <apachelogger> and sekrit
[00:53] <claydoh> apachelogger: mememememe
[05:24] <ScottK> apachelogger: Dunno about the Kubuntu packageset and Main/Universe.
[05:24] <ScottK> debfx: I can sponsor it, but probably not until Monday.
[10:00] <mfraz74> I have upgraded Kubuntu 11.04 to KDE 4.7 but I can't seem to find a package that has the Oxygen themes in them.
[10:01] <yofel> oxygen is a theme, or do you mean the color schemes?
[10:02] <mfraz74> I mean the files at /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen that I was using for the login screen
[10:02] <mfraz74> used to be in kdebase-workspace-wallpapers
[10:04] <yofel> mfraz74: I think you're looking for kde-workspace-data-extras
[10:06] <mfraz74> yofel: thanks
[10:19] <mfraz74> Is anyone else getting an error box pop up when they use get hot new stuff
[10:19] <mfraz74> ?
[10:22] <yofel> mfraz74: where's that again?
[10:24] <mfraz74> eg if I go into system settings and application appearance and then icons > get new themes, I get an error box saying that i am about to log in to the site "api.opendesktop.org" with the username "mfraser", but the website does not require authentication.
[10:26] <yofel> hm, I vaguely remember hearing about that auth error, but was never able to reproduce it
[10:26] <yofel> currently I'm on oneiric, I'll try it later on natty
[10:27] <mfraz74> yofel: you need to have setup social desktop in account details first. I have tried it with just a username, but it doesn't like that
[10:27] <yofel> ah true, I don't have that
[10:30] <mfraz74> are you registered at opendesktop.org?
[10:32] <yofel> nope
[10:37] <mfraz74> yofel: could you do it to confirm the bug?
[10:37] <yofel> a tad busy currently, will do it later
[10:38] <mfraz74> ok
[12:09] <yofel> confirmed :/
[14:25] <ScottK> smokegen binaries accepted.
[14:30] <yofel> btw. I hacked an overview page together that shows if the branches have UNRELEASED stuff http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/bzrstat/ but I'm not as good as felix when it comes to web development ^^
[14:30] <yofel> refreshes ~hourly
[14:44] <ScottK> Please keep uploading
[14:45] <Quintasan> yofel: Feel like readin' my telepathy kde ppa blog entry? -> http://paste.kde.org/104113/
[14:45]  * Quintasan uploads gwenview 0ubuntu3
[14:45] <yofel> I'll do it in ~3mins
[14:48] <CIA-52> [gwenview] Michal Zajac * 20 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu3
[14:51] <CIA-52> [kalzium] Michal Zajac * 11 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu2
[14:52] <Quintasan> ScottK: Uploading stuff right now!
[14:52] <yofel> Quintasan: fine IMO, but if a plasma applet is the only way to use it then *buntu isn't quite right
[14:53] <CIA-52> [kde-baseapps] Michal Zajac * 186 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu2
[14:53] <yofel> well ok, actually is
[14:55] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu2
[14:56] <girlygirl___> Why is there alpha release for Kubuntu Oneric, for Ubuntu there is does this mean bug testing for Kubuntu cannot begin yet?
[14:57] <girlygirl___> edit: no alpha release for
[14:57] <Quintasan> girlygirl___: I believe we skipped one because we were doing 4.7 packaging but I'm not sure
[14:58] <yofel> iirc we had a1, a2 was skipped since we weren't done with 4.7
[14:58] <girlygirl___> Quintasan: So there will be future pre release builds
[14:58] <yofel> alpha3 is scheduled for thursday
[14:58] <girlygirl___> thanks
[14:58] <CIA-52> [kdeaccessibility] Michal Zajac * 113 * debian/changelog Releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[14:59] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/parley] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[14:59]  * Quintasan is heading to bed for a nap
[15:00] <ScottK> Quintasan: Great.
[15:02] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/klettres] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[15:07] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kolourpaint] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[15:09] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kross-interpreters] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[15:14] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kruler] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[15:22] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 131 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu2
[15:34] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmplot] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[16:44] <girlygirl___> Isn't the heading text on the channel supposed to read "Congratulations Yofel" and not Yoful
[16:44] <girlygirl___> [Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.7.0 Packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | Congratulations yoful]
[17:01] <micahg> debfx: you forgot to revert the libjpeg62-dev change in gwenview
[17:16] <Quintasan> hmmm
[17:16] <Quintasan> yofel: ping
[17:17] <Quintasan> yofel: more like, how does one change topic?
[17:19] <girlygirl___> Isn't the heading text on the channel supposed to read "Congratulations Yofel" and not Yoful
[17:19] <girlygirl___> [Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.7.0 Packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | Congratulations yoful]
[17:53] <nigelb> Quintasan: Easiest wway is "poke jussi"
[17:57] <bambee> evening
[17:58] <shadeslayer> nigelb: even easier is this
[17:58] <shadeslayer> ;)
[17:59] <shadeslayer> girlygirl___: fixed :)
[18:00] <girlygirl___> ok
[18:01] <seawolf> hi,on kde 4.7,kilpper have generate QR code?
[18:02] <shadeslayer> seawolf: it should
[18:02] <shadeslayer> huh, thats weird
[18:03] <bambee> yofel: congrats ! :D
[18:03] <shadeslayer> seawolf: possibly the required build dep was not added due to certain reasons
[18:05] <seawolf> a ok,thank,coming son :D
[18:11] <nigelb> shadeslayer: oh gah.
[18:11] <nigelb> didn't know topic was open
[18:15] <girlygirl___> Kde follows qt releases versions more or less, so when qt 5 is out in 2012 will kde also go to v 5, and will it be a re code like 4.0 was ?
[18:37] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: how does one get powers to change topics?
[18:38] <Quintasan> girlygirl___: no, there wont be v5 bump for KDE AFAIC
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: the #kubuntu-devel topic is open :)
[18:38] <Quintasan> I see :S
[18:55] <jussi> Quintasan: what do you want changed?
[18:56] <jussi> Quintasan: and what client are you using?
[18:56] <Quintasan> jussi: Nothing now, it was yufel no yofel
[18:56] <Quintasan> jussi: Quassel
[18:56] <Quintasan> :/
[18:56] <jussi> hehe
[19:04] <yofel> re
[19:04] <yofel> bambee: thanks :)
[19:05] <jussi> sheytan: are you here now?
[19:05] <yofel> Quintasan: iirc there will be a v5 bump for KDE, but no rewrite, just ABI cleanup
[19:08] <jussi> sheytan: Ill leave a message in any case. We need some merchandise designs for the stuff in the ubuntu shop, so if youve got time, could you knock up a couple (must comply with ubuntu brand guidelines). Id say a mug, tshirt/polo, jacket and maybe something else for starters?
[19:08]  * jussi needs to go now, laters all
[19:08] <shadeslayer> valorie: could you ping me when you're free for a bit?
[19:27] <claydoh> yeah, don't forget to include a Kubuntu thong :)
[19:28] <claydoh> or, better yet a t-shirt in my size
[19:32] <eMyller> hi, fellows :)
[19:45] <eMyller> me @ identica: OMG !KDE, blur is working again on intel graphics card on SC 4.7! ￼ can anyone tell me what happened?
[19:45] <eMyller> can anyone confirm this?
[19:46] <eMyller> and it's not even slow
[19:50] <claydoh> eMyller: I have had blur working well on my intel for a bit now, at least natty. Maybe I have one of the less crappy gpu's :)
[19:50] <eMyller> claydoh: kde sc 4.7?
[19:50] <claydoh> yup
[19:50] <eMyller> it was completely broken on 4.6
[19:51] <eMyller> and now is smoother than i'd ever expect.
[19:51] <claydoh> not for mine, though pre-natty it wasn't working for me iirc
[19:51] <claydoh> 4.4/4.5 somewhere
[19:52] <eMyller> as far as i've read, blur wasn't going to be fixed for a long time
[19:52] <claydoh> but yeah, it is sooooooooo nice to have
[19:52] <eMyller> and i didn't even heard about it
[19:52] <eMyller> * since then
[19:54] <eMyller> am looking forward to try oxygen-transparent
[19:54] <valorie> shadeslayer: pong
[19:54] <eMyller> do you have an updated deb or could point me to it?
[19:55] <eMyller> found nothing on PPAs. :|
[19:55] <claydoh> eMyller: plasma theme?
[19:55] <eMyller> claydoh: nope; qt/kwin
[19:56] <eMyller> claydoh: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=127752
[19:58] <claydoh> eMyller: that stinks, usually a theme creator makes it downloadable via the Get Hot New Stuff thing so you can install it from system settings
[19:59] <eMyller> those are binaries, not just markup
[19:59] <claydoh> yeah, so they are lazy :)
[19:59] <claydoh> use the simple build script to do it for you
[19:59] <eMyller> claydoh: to not distribute deb packages?
[20:00] <claydoh> don't need deb packages for this, that a lot of work iirc for something like this
[20:00] <eMyller> claydoh: i could, but i'm just avoiding having to download dependences on this crappy connection of mine.
[20:00] <eMyller> claydoh: i guess you're not aware of what's it about :P
[20:04] <claydoh> I can read :) )usually), but I think binaries could easily be built so that anyone regardless of distro
[20:04] <claydoh> which I guess may happen once they begin regular versioning
[20:05] <eMyller> exactly
[20:05] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ksaneplugin] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[20:05] <eMyller> but i didn't see that getting into any official repo yet :\
[20:06] <claydoh> well create a ppa for it :)
[20:07] <eMyller> if i had sufficient knowledge about it today...
[20:07] <eMyller> eventually, maybe :)
[20:08] <claydoh> good learning experience (I am still learning - need to update my kmymoney ppa soon)
[20:08] <eMyller> yeah. as soon as i have time, i'll play with desktop dev for a while
[20:09] <eMyller> [am a python web developer and sysadmin]
[20:26] <sheytan> jussi: no time, sorry :(
[20:39] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kig] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[20:49] <eMyller> claydoh: i just built oxygen-transparent
[20:49] <eMyller> TIS BEAUTIFUL, OMG
[20:53] <claydoh> hehe
[20:53] <claydoh> worth the effort, then :D
[20:56] <ejat> eMyller : u have at ya PPA  ?
[20:57] <eMyller> ejat: nope :|
[20:57] <eMyller> dunno how to package and upload it
[21:01] <ejat> owh .. u just build it at ya machine :)
[21:02] <eMyller> ejat: yep
[21:14]  * Quintasan wonders if commit message made it here
[21:15]  * Quintasan tries kwin-gles
[21:20] <yofel_> didn't
[21:20] <Quintasan> Well whatever
[21:20] <yofel> or I missed it too ^^
[21:20]  * Quintasan wonders if kwin-gles will work on his box
[21:21] <eMyller> am trying to upload oxygen-transparent to my newly created PPA
[21:21] <Quintasan> ffs
[21:21] <eMyller> could anyone gimme a quick guide?
[21:21] <Quintasan> dput *.changes file
[21:21] <Quintasan> ooop
[21:21] <Quintasan> dput ppa:username/ppa *.changes
[21:22] <eMyller> what's this file?
[21:22] <Quintasan> It should get generated when you do debuild -S
[21:22] <yofel> it's created by debuild -S
[21:22]  * eMyller is reading about them on apt-cache
[21:23] <Quintasan> eMyller: Or file a bug and assign me to it
[21:23] <Quintasan> if you really feels like packaging this is really needed
[21:23]  * Quintasan thought this crap is going to be merged upstream
[21:23] <yofel> IMO the author should rather fix his kde-look setup so it appears in the download theme dialog
[21:24] <Quintasan> yofel: This whole thing is an ugly library hack
[21:24] <yofel> ah ok, then not ofc :/
[21:24] <Quintasan> Since when we BUILD themes?
[21:25]  * yofel likes transparency but will stick to what the oxygen team provides
[21:27] <eMyller> Quintasan: ugly?
[21:27] <Quintasan> eMyller: How did you build it?
[21:27] <Quintasan> eMyller: As in, messing with libs
[21:27] <eMyller> Quintasan: just ran the pl script from the repo
[21:28] <Quintasan> eMyller: Oh I see, that's not how you generate packages for PPA
[21:28] <eMyller> yeah... i guess that's how i just build and install for myself.
[21:28]  * yofel hopes that doesn't override any files
[21:28] <eMyller> how then? :D
[21:28] <yofel> otherwise that'll be complicated
[21:28] <eMyller> yofel: no it's not anymore.
[21:28] <eMyller> i think.
[21:29] <Quintasan> I do not really think a theme should look like that
[21:29] <eMyller> back in months ago, it was replacing default Oxygen theme
[21:29] <Quintasan> eMyller: Did the author even bother talking to upstream?
[21:29] <yofel> Quintasan: on kde-look.org he says it's rejected upstream
[21:29] <yofel> eMyller: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[21:30] <Quintasan> Then it must have been doing some nasty things
[21:30] <yofel> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=127752
[21:30] <eMyller> check his words about it. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=127752
[21:31] <yofel> eMyller: but if the install process requires running a perl script that (probably) won't be too easy to package..
[21:31] <eMyller> yofel: the pearl script basically clones, configures and builds the thing
[21:32] <eMyller> i took a glance on it, nothing complex seems to be done.
[21:32]  * yofel fetches the source
[21:33] <yofel> ah, seems to use cmake, much easier :)
[21:39] <valorie> that's pretty
[21:39] <valorie> I'd like to use that
[21:41]  * eMyller is halfway done with the ppa thing
[21:43] <Quintasan> yofel: Do not bother
[21:43] <Quintasan> I just packaged it :/
[21:44] <yofel> ^^
[21:44] <Quintasan> yofel: Will adding kubuntu-ppa/backports dependency to my ppa allow me to build packages against 4.7.0?
[21:45] <yofel> should
[21:45] <Quintasan> oh wait, lp doesnt support xz yet
[21:48] <yofel> Quintasan: it does
[21:48] <yofel> we just use it in neon :P
[21:48] <Quintasan> ...
[21:48] <Quintasan> okay
[21:48] <Quintasan> :D
[21:48] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/104275
[21:48] <Quintasan> wtf
[21:48] <Quintasan> dput--
[21:49] <yofel> yay, lp gpg server broken again
[21:49] <yofel> well, should work anyway
[21:50] <Quintasan> yofel: Feeling like testin kwin-gles?
[21:50] <yofel> I'm on my eeePC, so sure, once I finished installing updates
[21:50] <Quintasan> eMyller: https://launchpad.net/~quintasan/+archive/ppa
[21:50] <Quintasan> plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent should be here soon
[21:51] <Quintasan> yofel: branch kde-workspace and build for natty :P
[21:51] <Quintasan> doublebuilding ftw!
[21:52] <yofel> ok, I'll call back tomorrow evening if it should finish by then :P
[21:52] <Quintasan> lol
[21:52] <Quintasan> -j16 FTW
[21:52] <yofel> this is an atom n270, faster than my arm VMs, but still: forget it
[21:53] <eMyller> Quintasan: may i delete the ppa i created for it?
[21:53] <yofel> eMyller: er, leave it
[21:53] <yofel> it'll leave a PPA zombie, since you can't completely remove them...
[21:53] <Quintasan> eMyller: You can, but you might want it at some point in future
[21:54] <Quintasan> make -j1
[21:54] <Quintasan> WTF
[21:54] <Quintasan> PBUILDER DIE IN FIRE
[21:54] <eMyller> anyways, i'd appreciate it if you threw your shell logs at me so i could see what was done in order to upload the thing.
[21:54] <ejat> Quintasan : c00l :)
[21:55]  * yofel goes back to uploading stuff
[21:55] <Quintasan> eMyller: dget -xu https://launchpad.net/~quintasan/+archive/ppa/+files/plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent_0.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1.dsc
[21:55] <Quintasan> eMyller: See plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent-0.1/debian directory
[21:55] <Quintasan> the files inside
[21:55] <Quintasan> this is how packaging works
[21:55] <eMyller> [offtopic] http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lopdzbnTio1qzmowao1_500.jpg
[21:56] <Quintasan> WHY WON'T YOU USE -J16 PBUILDER?
[21:57] <eMyller> Quintasan: nice, thanks :)
[21:58] <Quintasan> eMyller: Then, if you went to plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent-0.1 and invoked debuild -S it would do some magic to generate .dsc .changes files and sign them with you gpg key
[21:59] <eMyller> so that i could upload it
[21:59] <eMyller> using dput
[21:59] <Quintasan> To a PPA, yes
[21:59] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kiten] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[22:00] <Quintasan> I'm feeling like playin some TF2
[22:00] <eMyller> Quintasan: thanks :)
[22:00] <Quintasan> eMyller: http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#maint-guide
[22:01] <Quintasan> This is a good read to get introduced to packaging
[22:01] <Quintasan> and I mean, everything there
[22:02] <eMyller> cool
[22:02] <Quintasan> ejat, eMyller: package is building, should be ready in 10 min or so
[22:02] <eMyller> added to the readlist (got some tabs blinking already :P)
[22:02] <eMyller> ty :)
[22:03] <ejat> Quintasan .. thanks .. i can see it on launchpad ..
[22:07] <Quintasan> Quasseldroid ftw
[22:08] <eMyller> using quasselcore too?
[22:08] <Quintasan> More like using yofels core
[22:08] <yofel> and package failed to build already ^^
[22:09] <Quintasan> yofel: theme?
[22:09] <yofel> yep
[22:09] <Quintasan> ...
[22:09] <Quintasan> derp
[22:09] <Quintasan> What's wrong?
[22:09] <yofel> dh_install: plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent missing files (usr/lib/*), aborting
[22:09] <Quintasan> hmm
[22:09] <yofel> used --with kde?
[22:09] <Quintasan> yes
[22:10] <Quintasan> It installs stuff automatically?
[22:10] <yofel> it odes
[22:10] <yofel> debian/plasma-theme-oxygen-transparent/usr/lib/liboxygentransparentstyleconfig.so.4
[22:10] <Quintasan> ...
[22:10] <Quintasan> Care to fix it and upload somewhere else?
[22:11] <yofel> lemme dget it
[22:12]  * Quintasan just started TF2 to own JT
[22:12] <Quintasan> hmm
[22:12] <Quintasan> JT is so dead
[22:12] <Quintasan> in TF
[22:12] <yofel> lol
[22:13] <eMyller> Quintasan: why did you call it "plasma-theme"?
[22:13] <Quintasan> since it's a plasma theme?
[22:14] <eMyller> is it? Oo
[22:14] <yofel> uh...
[22:14] <yofel> Quintasan: window decos?
[22:14] <eMyller> kwin/qt
[22:24] <ejat> now yofel wanna try to fix it ?
[22:26] <yofel> what was up agani?
[22:26] <yofel> *again
[22:28] <ejat> i dc just now .. i mean .. the plasma theme oxygen transparent :)
[22:28]  * ejat lost the conversation ..
[22:29] <yofel> ah, yeah, working on it
[22:29] <yofel> building on an Atom takes a while ^^
[22:29] <ejat> ok thanks :) ..
[22:29] <ejat> u try at ya machine 1st b4 upload ?
[22:30] <ejat> :)
[22:30] <yofel> I first need to find what's wrong, either it's tricky or I'm too tired to miss the obvious
[22:31] <yofel> Y U BUILD -j1 dpkg-buildpackag? *-.-
[22:32] <ejat> owh ic :) .. tracing …
[22:33] <ejat> it seem .. this year i havent update my packaging / doing any packaging yet :(
[22:33] <yofel> feel free to poke for work once 4.7.1 is tagged ;)
[22:34] <yofel> Quintasan: a) it's not just usr/lib/ stuff b) just junk  the install file
[22:34] <ejat> ouch …
[22:36] <ejat> yofel : havent try much on packaging for kde .. just some apps that less dependencies .. maybe i need mentor if i want to join u ninja guys
[22:37] <yofel> ejat: now with the splits there is a lot of simple stuff, not too hard even for packaging beginners
[22:38] <yofel> your work gets reviewed anyway (unlike your personal packaging) ;)
[22:38] <ejat> ic ..
[22:42] <ejat> splits ?
[22:45] <yofel> ejat: kdeedu, kdegraphics and kdebindings source packages got split up into smaller pieces
[22:45] <yofel> has to do with the svn -> git move at kde
[22:45] <ejat> ic ..
[22:47] <ejat> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MovetoGit
[22:49] <ejat> ok .. get the full pict .. thanks again ..
[22:54] <yofel> ScottK: mind taking a look at smokeqt next? It's in source new and once that's in we can upload qtruby and perlqt
[23:08] <yofel> bah, kiten not in packageset :(
[23:10] <yofel> ah, it's in universe...
[23:13] <yofel> Quintasan: can you upload that?
[23:30] <yofel> eMyller: https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/ppa/+packages together with other stuff, so make sure you only take oxygen-transparent


[01:37] <KE1HA> !webmin > KE1HA
[01:38] <KE1HA> !ebox > KE1HA
[02:33] <kenthree> hey guys does 10.04 come with a vnc server?
[03:38] <Sunderphon> is there an alternative to notify-osd around?
[07:18] <ginger0bread> XD
[07:18] <ginger0bread> hello everyone :))
[07:24] <ginger0bread> anyone? awake? or not busy?
[11:38] <owner> I have a problem with my computers sound after installing xubuntu.
[11:42] <Sysi> what kind of?
[11:42] <owner> What kind of what?
[11:43] <Sysi> what doesn't work, anything?
[11:44] <owner> The sound isn't playing at all. Its probably because my driver isn't recongnized.
[11:44] <Sysi> what sound card?
[11:44] <owner> Not sure, Whats the command to find that?
[11:44] <Sysi> lspci prints all hw
[11:45] <owner> Alrighty, Now what after I type that? What am I looking for specifically.
[11:45] <Sysi> something about sound
[11:46] <owner> Says nothing about sound,.
[11:46] <owner> Unless my mind is skipping over it due to being tired, haha.
[11:47] <Sysi> lspci | grep -i sound
[11:47] <owner> Takes me back to desktop:-$
[11:48] <ablomen> lspci | grep "Audio"
[11:48] <Sysi> not found :o
[11:48] <Sysi> ofc..
[11:48] <owner> 00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[11:49] <owner> What now?
[11:50] <ablomen> owner, try this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=365342
[11:50] <ablomen> it's very old, but it might still work
[11:51] <Sysi> (you propably already checked everything unmuted etc)
[11:51] <ablomen> heh ah yes that too
[11:52] <owner> Yeh, lol. I checked and made sure its all unmuted.
[11:52] <owner> Over and Ove.r
[11:52] <owner> oh didnt see that link.
[11:52] <owner> brb.
[11:53] <owner> Which post of that thread should I use?
[11:53] <owner> I'm half asleep so its all easier with guidance.
[11:53] <owner> Nevermind, Second post.
[11:54] <owner> What about auto correction on Firefox? For some reason it doesn't work, but its checked in firefox to auto-spell check.
[11:55] <owner> sudo: gedit: command not found
[11:57] <ablomen> no gedit installed?..
[11:58] <ablomen> replace gedit with mousepad
[11:58] <owner> ight.
[11:59] <owner> How can I go about installing gedit, The software center?
[11:59] <ablomen> you don't have to
[11:59] <ablomen> but if you want, yes just go to the software center thingy and search there
[11:59] <owner> Ok, Mouspad is now open. Its blank.
[12:00] <ablomen> i think the file should be blacklist.confg
[12:00] <ablomen> -g
[12:00] <ablomen> so blacklist.conf, in that same dir
[12:01] <owner> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   is what i typed
[12:01] <owner> should it have been
[12:01] <owner> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.confg
[12:01] <owner> -g
[12:01] <ablomen> sudo mousepad /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:01] <owner> my bad, I meant mousepad
[12:01] <KE1HA> I dont think gedit is installed by default, try nano
[12:02] <owner> Got it, Should I break after the last part of the line?
[12:02] <owner> Or just right under the last text.
[12:03] <ablomen> put an enter between it
[12:03] <ablomen> so it starts on a new line
[12:04] <ablomen> then save and reboot and hope for the best
[12:04] <owner> ok what about the speaker icon?
[12:04] <owner> On the 2nd post of
[12:04] <owner> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=365342
[12:04] <owner> It says:  Double-Click the speaker icon.
[12:04] <owner> Then do that stuff. But Xubuntu isnt the same setup as ubuntu.
[12:05] <ablomen> owner, well that's related to ubuntu, not xubuntu, i would try rebooting first
[12:05] <owner> ok, ill be back if it doesnt work.
[12:05] <owner> thanks.
[12:05] <ablomen> if you still have problems after that, you can change the settings of the speaker widget
[12:08] <owner> Guess who is back. lol.
[12:08] <owner> Did not work. What a shame. :(
[16:47] <glib> hi. can anyone recommend an nxclient, like nomachine, that works with amd64?
[16:49] <Sysi> nomachine has x64 deb on their website
[16:49] <Sysi> if i'm getting you right
[16:50] <Sysi> i386 binaries should also work, maybe needing library for running them
[16:53] <glib> thanks
[17:15] <glib> Sysi, i don't know much about nxclients are there any alternatives to nomachine that you would recommend?
[17:15] <Sysi> glib: i don't know anything about them :D
[17:15] <glib> ok, thanks.
[18:55] <hudo> is there a simple way to test sound on xubuntu ?
[19:47] <Xubuntu_Newb> Hi, I was experimenting with different window manager looks, when after applying one, my screen turns black and I get some message about some problems with my AC'97, and that the alsa mixer 1 was removed? Then my comp restarts, and I get to the login screen like usual, but after trying to log in, after some time, I get the same black screen, and I go back to the login screen? Right now I'm using the recovery mode low grap
[19:47] <Xubuntu_Newb> hics option so I can actually log in?
[19:51] <Xubuntu_Newb> Does anyone know?
[19:51] <knome> know what?
[19:52] <Xubuntu_Newb> MY question? What can I do to log back in normally?
[19:53] <knome> have you reverted back to the theme before
[19:53] <Xubuntu_Newb> I can try that know, but I know that the AC'97 and alsa1 mixer have something to do with sound? So I don't think it's something with the theme
[19:54] <knome> low graphics mode and black screen are definitely related to graphics/probably themes
[19:55] <Xubuntu_Newb> But the message was about alsa1 mixer removed because of the problems? And I never had a problem with the graphics b4?
[19:55] <knome> i don't know. not having alsa-mixer sure doesn't stop you going to normal graphics mode
[20:14] <slow-motion> hi
[21:15] <Nepherius> anyone around ?
[21:15] <bittin`> yes
[21:15] <Nepherius> i`m trying to change the default resolution but all the forums i find say i should edit xorg.conf ..but i dont have that
[21:20] <Nepherius> any ideas ?:)
[21:20] <MichealH> Nepherius: Have you tried /etc/X11/
[21:20] <MichealH> Its in that folder
[21:20] <MichealH> Or It should
[21:21] <Nepherius> I tried sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf but i just get a blank file a new file
[21:43] <slow-motion> n8
[22:20] <hudo> bye


[01:25] <WASasquatch> How might I go about obtaining the linux-backports-modules-karmic package?
[01:26] <WASasquatch> I found one through the Ubuntu website, but it had a dependency problem and couldn't be installed.
[01:27] <WASasquatch> I'm really new, and if I could just get Xubuntu online I could start learning this stuff without having to retart from windows to linux all the time. lol
[01:28] <WASasquatch> I would just plug my computer in ethernet, but I loaned out my cord for my friend to go online with his PS3.
[01:30] <WASasquatch> Anyone?
[01:31] <_Techie_> what do you need help with?
[01:32] <_Techie_> WASasquatch: whats the problem?
[01:37] <_Techie_> WASasquatch: if your not willing to let me know what the problem is, then i cant help you
[01:39] <WASasquatch> Okay
[01:39] <WASasquatch> So I have a Belkin N Wireless USB adapter
[01:39] <WASasquatch> I plug it in, and it is recognized. However it won't connect to my router.
[01:40] <_Techie_> have you selected the correct encryption type?
[01:40] <WASasquatch> I was told to run "sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic" which the package doesn't exist on my system, and I have no internet to get the package.
[01:40] <WASasquatch> Indeed.
[01:40] <WASasquatch> All the settings are correct.
[01:40] <WASasquatch> I even tethered my phone with no encryptions and it couldn't connect to it either.
[01:41] <_Techie_> i presume the belin adapter is backwards compatable with G devices
[01:41] <WASasquatch> Indeed.
[01:42] <_Techie_> hrmm
[01:42] <WASasquatch> Belkin 5FD8053 N Wireless
[01:42] <WASasquatch> Dual-band.
[01:43] <WASasquatch> I am also running the current stable release of Xubuntu, 9.10.
[01:43] <_Techie_> i cant seem to turn up anything
[01:44] <_Techie_> hrmm
[01:44] <_Techie_> what encryption is the network, WPA-PSK2?
[01:45] <WASasquatch> Yeah
[01:45] <WASasquatch> Wait...
[01:45] <WASasquatch> I'm not sure. been awhile since I set it, windows just says WAP2.
[01:46] <_Techie_> try logging into the router and disabling the encryption of the network
[01:46] <_Techie_> try to connect to the network with security off
[01:47] <_Techie_> this wil give us an idea whether its a problem with the adapter in Xubuntu or just a problem authenticating
[01:47] <WASasquatch> Well, like I said, I tethered my phone with no encryption and it was unable to connect as well. I don't think it's the router, more the Network Manager.
[01:48] <WASasquatch> I have a PCMCIA Linksys adapter as well, which is not detected, anyway to try it?
[01:49] <_Techie_> i wouldnt have a clue
[01:52] <WASasquatch> Do you know where to download the linux-backports-modules-karmic package?
[01:53] <_Techie_> if you want to "Download" it without using aptitude
[01:53] <_Techie_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/linux-backports-modules-karmic-generic
[03:29] <WASasquatch> When I download linux-backports-modules-karmic or karmic-generic I can't install them. It has a big red warning/error stating there is a dependency problem.
[03:29] <WASasquatch> And apparently I need to install these to connect my Belkin adapter
[03:31] <psycho_oreos> try something like prevu
[14:35] <ralze> hi, I was looking for something like menu.lst or grub.conf, but the things don't quite look like I'm used to in /boot/grub. where would I have to look?
[14:36] <charlie-tca> try /etc/default/grub
[14:36] <charlie-tca> what are you looking to change?
[14:38] <ralze> charlie-tca: I wasn't gonna change anything. I was just wanting to get the right parameters for the grub.conf, that is actually referenced on my machine
[14:38] <ralze> charlie-tca: I'm masochist, I'm looking into gentoo :)
[14:39] <ralze> mainly I'm not too sure about the whole hd0,1..45 business, so I wanted to see what the xubuntu parition would be
[14:39] <charlie-tca> I don't know grub.conf
[14:40] <ralze> well thanks anyway! :)
[14:40] <charlie-tca> grub legacy (grub1) used menu.lst and grub2 uses /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d
[14:41] <ralze> ah okay, maybe that's why it all looked so differently. I've never really configured grub2 yet.
[14:42] <ralze> alright, then it's gonna be guessing and rebooting.
[16:45] <highvoltage> imho grub2 takes way too long to load on some machines
[16:45] <highvoltage> (sorry wrong channel)
[16:56]  * charlie-tca nods to both comments
[17:41] <Tronika> hello
[17:41] <Tronika> good aftanonn
[17:41] <Tronika> i need some help getting xubuntu to work
[17:42] <Tronika> i cant get past the login screen
[17:42] <Tronika> im on live cd
[17:42] <Tronika> any help greatly appreciated
[17:42] <charlie-tca> And?
[17:42] <Tronika> and i need to login
[17:42] <charlie-tca> You have the login screen up ?
[17:42] <Tronika> but how
[17:42] <Tronika> yes
[17:42] <Tronika> its up
[17:42] <charlie-tca> User = ubuntu
[17:42] <charlie-tca> password = hit enter
[17:43] <Tronika> i tried that
[17:43] <Tronika> no go
[17:43] <charlie-tca> ubuntu all small letters, password is blank box, just hit enter on it?
[17:44] <Tronika> nope
[17:44] <charlie-tca> Try resetting gdm, if you can, using Ctrl+Alt+SysRq+k
[17:44] <charlie-tca> then try it again
[17:45] <charlie-tca> what version is this?
[17:45] <Tronika> lets see
[17:45] <Tronika> 9.10
[17:46] <mobius111001> anyone know is xubuntu 10.04 still using not using pulse?
[17:46] <charlie-tca> Never had 9.10 stop at the login, are you sure it booted to the cd?
[17:46] <Tronika> yea
[17:46] <Tronika> its an old pc
[17:46] <charlie-tca> 10.04 is using pulseaudio
[17:46] <Tronika> but this never happens
[17:47] <Tronika> usually loads up normally
[17:47] <charlie-tca> Old pc should not matter. seems to be something wrong with the cd itself
[17:48] <charlie-tca> Try ubuntu and password = ubuntu
[17:49] <charlie-tca> mobius111001: I am running both 32bit and 64bit Xubuntu on two different systems with pulseaudio and no issues to date
[17:49]  * charlie-tca thinks the volume not muting is great, too!
[17:51] <mobius111001> hey charlie-tca....on 10.04 or 9.10?  just moved to xubuntu with 9.10 because pulse and my internal microphone didn't want to play nice.  i was hoping 10.04 didn't move to pulse.  granted, i'm not very fond of xfce ;-)
[17:51] <charlie-tca> 10.04
[17:52] <Tronika> thx for help charlie
[17:52] <charlie-tca> did it work?
[17:52] <mobius111001> did pulse come by default?
[17:52] <Tronika> yea
[17:52] <Tronika> :)
[17:52] <charlie-tca> mobius111001: yes
[17:52] <Tronika> thx man
[17:52] <charlie-tca> My volume options are oss and pulse only
[17:52] <charlie-tca> Tronika: You are welcome
[17:53] <mobius111001> shoot.  thanks for the info charlie-tca
[17:53] <Tronika> gotta go
[17:53] <Tronika> cya later
[17:53] <charlie-tca> Good luck
[18:17] <cur> has anyone been testing the 10.04 xubuntu beta?
[18:20] <Sysi> i have it
[18:20] <charlie-tca> yes, cur
[18:21] <charlie-tca> I run it on two systems, 32bit and 64bit
[18:21]  * charlie-tca thinks it might be a poll
[18:21] <cur> how is it going for you? I am really having trepidations about it... I had a lot of issues with Ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop... and I am wondering how the beta is working
[18:22] <Sysi> pretty well for me
[18:22] <charlie-tca> As long as I stay away from the nvidia hardware driver on 64 bit, great!
[18:22] <charlie-tca> Seems to be enough bugs for a beta
[18:23] <cur> okay another silly question... I have an intel core2 solo 1.4ghz processor, is it smart to switch over to Xubuntu with this chipset?
[18:24] <cur> 9.04 Ubuntu works like a champ. Most of my problems have just been fault of my own.
[18:24] <charlie-tca> sure... I think so. I run xubuntu on all my machines, including the 2.2GHz 64bit athlon
[18:24] <charlie-tca> Try the live cd, see if it works for you
[18:24] <charlie-tca> It is not as easy as Ubuntu to configure, most of the time
[18:27] <cur> cool. I have been looking into the xfce a lot more recently. What do you mean by "easy"?
[18:27] <charlie-tca> gnome configures a lot of things that you do manually in xubuntu
[18:28] <charlie-tca> Xfce gives you more choices, I think. Also makes you work a little more to do what you want, sometimes
[18:29] <cur> I am new to ubuntu and linux (diddling around since october/november) but I like the ability to tinker with everything. it has bit me in the ars a few times, though.  I don't mind the work.
[18:47] <cur> thanks
[19:42] <Sysi> not actually #right but, have others experienced that lucid losts dns?
[19:47] <Sysi> and working again..
[19:47] <charlie-tca> I saw some questions about it in #ubuntu+1 the other day
[19:48] <charlie-tca> It does seem to happen intermittent to some users
[21:53] <lubka> Hello, my panels are gone, can´t open Panel in Settings
[21:53] <lubka> Is there any fix?
[21:53] <Myrtti> !panels
[21:53] <lubka> thanks
[21:54] <lubka> it helped
[21:54] <lubka> bye
[21:54] <Myrtti> great
[21:54] <Myrtti> bye


[00:00] <David-A> Ady_: you said you need to ask a question, we all waited for your question, then you just left, and was angry
[00:02] <whiterice> no kidding
[00:24] <derek-g_> how to disable Ctrl+F1 -> Ctrl+F6 shortcuts that switch between virtual desktops?
[00:50] <David-A> derek-g_: xmodmap -pke shows XF86_Switch_VT_<X> for the functions keys. maybe you can try remap them using xmodmap (not tested)
[00:51] <derek-g_> David-A, but I thought Iw as able to unmap those previously from Settings menu -> keyboard?
[04:31] <MetaCosm> How can I bind a keypress for "Always On Visible Desktop"
[06:58] <xubuntu505> Hi
[06:58] <baizon> hi xubuntu505
[06:58] <xubuntu505> I tried to install Xubuntu last version on Samsung R55 with Centrino Duo T2300 and Nvidia Geforce Go 7600
[06:59] <xubuntu505> Works fine, but I cannot change resolution to higher than 1024x768? Do I need another driver? Where to get from?
[06:59] <baizon> xubuntu505: you need the nvidia drivers, sec ill post a link
[07:00] <baizon> xubuntu505: ok, open software center
[07:01] <baizon> and search for nvidia 331
[07:01] <baizon> then install it
[07:01] <baizon> or nvidia-current
[07:01] <baizon> then you will get the latest one
[07:01] <xubuntu505> Thanks- software center is part of xubuntu, II suppose?
[07:02] <baizon> yes it is
[07:02] <xubuntu505> Thank you very much, baizon! Have a nice day!
[07:03] <baizon> you too
[07:12] <ali1234> that's not how you're actually supposed to install it
[07:13] <baizon> ali1234: i dont have an nvidia card :( i thought thats the easiest solution
[07:13] <elfy> it is
[07:13] <ali1234> you're supposed to open the settings and click additional drivers
[07:13] <elfy> oh yea - no it isn't :p
[07:13] <baizon> hehe
[07:13] <elfy> sorry ali1234 :)
[07:13] <baizon> forgot about that :D
[07:13] <ali1234> will probably be fine though
[07:14] <ali1234> it just installs a dkms package
[07:14] <baizon> ist both doing the same?
[07:14] <ali1234> i don't know 100%
[07:14] <baizon> isnt*
[07:14] <xubuntu505> getting confused...;-)
[07:14] <xubuntu505> http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/
[07:14] <xubuntu505> might that be a way?
[07:14] <ali1234> NO DO NOT DO THAT
[07:15] <xubuntu505> I found that I need 304.88 following the NVIDIA website and downloaded the Linux 32bit packkage
[07:15] <ali1234> that will break your install sooner or later
[07:15] <ali1234> what graphics card do you have?
[07:15] <baizon> indeed
[07:15] <baizon> nvidia 7600
[07:15] <baizon> nvidia go 7600
[07:15] <xubuntu505> NVIDIA go 7600
[07:16] <ali1234> it needs the legacy driver?
[07:16] <ali1234> i would install nvidia-304-updates from synaptic and then you should be able to select it in the additional drivers screen
[07:17] <ali1234> no need for edgers ppa
[07:17] <xubuntu505> well, I went to the NVIDIA site, searched for it and downloaded the Linux driver 32bit. Should be the right one as it is directly from NVIDIA, right?
[07:17] <ali1234> but the rest of the steps are the same
[07:17] <ali1234> no, do not install the one form nvidia, that will also mess up your system eventually
[07:17] <Segger> hm
[07:17] <ali1234> the one in the repos is packaged and tested and able to be updated
[07:17] <baizon> xubuntu505: listen to ali1234
[07:18] <Segger> speaking of nvidia drivers, I've been having a problem with my desktop where the nvidia driver doesn't seem to take up the entire display
[07:18] <xubuntu505> ok, seems to be the more comfortable way than edgers ppa, thank you, I will try that
[07:18] <baizon> i did something like this with my amd card, it broke everything
[07:18] <baizon> Segger: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125575/edges-of-screen-cut-off-in-ubuntu-12-04
[07:19] <Segger> still applies to 14.04?
[07:19] <baizon> Segger: yes
[07:19] <Segger> weeee
[07:19] <ali1234> Segger: i've seen that happen but only with nouveau on very new hardware
[07:19] <ali1234> but it could be caused by many things
[07:19] <Segger> Oh snap there's overscan compensation in the settings? Why haven't I noticed that ):
[07:20] <ali1234> are you using a CRT?
[07:20] <Segger> I've got a spiffy new asus monitor
[07:20] <Segger> 27" 1080p
[07:20] <ali1234> then you should not need overscan compensation. something else is wrong
[07:20] <Segger> oh okay
[07:20] <Segger> Yeah, it's running at the correct resolution, but kinda shrunken overall.
[07:20] <ali1234> try pressing the "auto" button on the monitor
[07:20] <baizon> Segger: yeah had that bug once, wasted 2h to find a solution :/
[07:21] <baizon> at least this bug applied to me
[07:21] <Segger> My desktop as well as a miniITX media center i've been messing with has the same problem on that monitor
[07:21] <ali1234> also, what type of monitor connection?
[07:21] <Segger> HDMI
[07:21] <xubuntu505> by, folks!
[07:21] <Segger> bye
[07:21] <ali1234> hmm... well, look for that auto config button. most monitors have one
[07:21] <Segger> The media center thing uses fglrx and the desktop is the newer nvidia stuff
[07:22] <Segger> Probably so, would be a real pain if I had to use it every time I switched between windows and xubuntu though
[07:22] <Segger> another thing is that I have to unplug then re-plug my mouse in order for it to work correctly.
[07:23] <ali1234> you could check the monitor menus in  windows and linux to get the exact modes it is using
[07:23] <ali1234> they are probably different, causing the problem
[07:23] <Segger> it's really weird, I can kinda right-click on the desktop and then it'll let me click on panels and stuff.
[07:23] <Segger> Yeah, maybe
[07:23] <Segger> I mean, they should just be running it at 1080p @ 60hz
[07:24] <Segger> I dunno if there's some other mode or whatever associated with it
[07:24] <ali1234> on HDMI the monitor should tell the OS what it wants
[07:25] <Segger> Yeah I'll have to mess around with it some more
[07:25] <Segger> 3am here, and i've got work tomorrow so i guess i'll screw with it tomorrow night
[07:28] <Segger> thanks for the help, though
[07:28] <Segger> Gonna pass out for now
[07:28] <Segger> night
[12:29] <peyam> elfy, Are you there?
[12:29] <peyam> elfy, you had a solution for the issue of black screen efter resuming from suspend. I can't find it. Do you possibly have any link to that?
[20:05] <wilsonjl3> !burn
[20:06] <wilsonjl3> is there a way to put xubuntu 14.04 onto a usb?
[20:06] <wilsonjl3> and then install it onto the comp.?
[20:06] <ObrienDave> unetbootin
[20:07] <ObrienDave> tuxboot
[20:07] <ObrienDave> startup disk creator
[20:07] <ObrienDave> i've had better luck burning ISO to DVD
[20:08] <wilsonjl3> ok but how do i put it onto the usb from windows 7? i tried the dvd but kept getting an error message
[20:08] <esph> dd :D
[20:08] <esph> Oh, from Windows
[20:08] <esph> unetbootin runs on Windows
[20:08] <ObrienDave> you did NOT ask about Windows programs ;P
[20:08] <wilsonjl3> ahaha sorry
[20:09] <wilsonjl3> i have infraburner
[20:09] <wilsonjl3> would that work?
[20:09] <ObrienDave> for DVD, yes
[20:09] <ObrienDave> not sure about USB
[20:09] <wilsonjl3> how big does the dvd need to be?
[20:09] <wilsonjl3> would 4.5 gb work?
[20:10] <esph> wilsonjl3: I'd just go with USB, personally.
[20:10] <ObrienDave> yes, the ISO is less than 1GB at the moment
[20:10] <wilsonjl3> ok awesome
[20:11] <wilsonjl3> idk how to put it on a usb Esph
[20:12] <ObrienDave> unetbootin for WINDOWS ;P
[20:12] <wilsonjl3> oh
[20:13] <ObrienDave> snarky windows reference there :)
[20:13] <wilsonjl3> heh i noticed :P
[20:13] <wilsonjl3> is it easy to put it onto a usb using that or should i stay and ask for help here? :3
[20:14] <ObrienDave> it's easy. very easy. install unetbootin, run, at bottom select ISO file and USB drive. very easy
[20:14] <Unit193> I tend to like Linux Live USB creator for Windows, tends to do a better job than unetbookin.
[20:15] <ObrienDave> oh, ADD persistance so the USB can be used as a stand-alone-system also
[20:15] <wilsonjl3> do i check the diskimage option?
[20:15] <ObrienDave> yes, you don't need to D/L the ISO twice :)
[20:16] <ObrienDave> and Unit193 has another option for you
[20:16] <wilsonjl3> how do i add persistance?
[20:17] <ObrienDave> at the bottom of the unetbootin screen
[20:17] <wilsonjl3> and thanks unit but i already downloaded this one :P will it screw up if i use unetbootin?
[20:17] <ObrienDave> i've had trouble with unetbootin on occasion
[20:17] <wilsonjl3> do i add 1 mb or how much? its a 4gb usb
[20:18] <Unit193> Shouldn't, just personal preference as to which tool to use.
[20:18] <wilsonjl3> okay
[20:18] <ObrienDave> i think the unet limit is 1GB
[20:19] <wilsonjl3> so. 1 gb for the preserving thing?
[20:19] <ObrienDave> if you like, yes
[20:19] <wilsonjl3> thats 1000 mb right?
[20:19] <ObrienDave> yes
[20:20] <wilsonjl3> sorry for all the questions :3
[20:20] <wilsonjl3> is there a place to check if i did it right?
[20:20] <wilsonjl3> or do i just throw it in the comp and see if it screws up?
[20:21] <ObrienDave> persistance retains settings, documents, etc... makes the USB stand-alone.
[20:21] <ObrienDave> umm, your BIOS will boot a USB drive, yes?
[20:21] <wilsonjl3> (btw the comp is completely cleared, no OS or anything on it, thats why im checking)
[20:21] <wilsonjl3> yes it will
[20:21] <wilsonjl3> do i use bios or legacy setting?
[20:22] <ObrienDave> depends on your comp.
[20:22] <wilsonjl3> acer aspire
[20:22] <wilsonjl3> bought last august new
[20:23] <ObrienDave> i wouldn't know about that comp, sorry
[20:23] <wilsonjl3> aha no problem, cant harm it if it dosnt work, right?
[20:23] <ObrienDave> nope, since there's nothing on the HDD, no worries
[20:24] <wilsonjl3> awesome :)
[20:24] <wilsonjl3> thanks for all the help guys
[20:24] <wilsonjl3> im just waiting for it to download right now
[20:25] <ObrienDave> the installer gives you the option to "try" or "install". just try it for now
[20:25] <ObrienDave> you can install from the desktop after it gets going
[20:25] <kristin> hi! I've installed xubuntu few days ago, after trying ubuntu 14.04 and lubuntu 14.04 and in these instalations including xubuntu now, I have same problem. When loading I get a message on top of the screen saying "Support for cores revisions 0x17 and 0X18 disabled by module paron allsupport=0. Try allsupport=1. Does anyone know what it can be related to and what can be done?
[20:26] <ObrienDave> brb
[20:26] <wilsonjl3> ok Dave i will
[20:27] <knome> kristin, sounds like a kernel parameter
[20:34] <ObrienDave> wilsonjl3, that makes sure the USB works before you install to your HDD
[20:34] <wilsonjl3> ohh okay
[20:35] <wilsonjl3> makes sense
 what should I do with this kernel parameter?:)  I've installed xubuntu few days ago, after trying ubuntu 14.04 and lubuntu 14.04 and in these instalations including xubuntu now, I have same problem. When loading I get a message on top of the screen saying "Support for cores revisions 0x17 and 0X18 disabled by module paron allsupport=0. Try allsupport=1. Does anyone know what it can be related to and what can be done?
[20:51] <wilsonjl3> so i selected xubuntu on that drop down thing. what do i pick for the second one? 14.04 live, 14.04 hd media(x64), or 14.04 net install(x64)
[20:51] <wilsonjl3> in UNetbootin
[20:56] <knome> kristin, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19486/how-do-i-add-a-kernel-boot-parameter goes through it
[20:56] <kristin> someone suggested its kernel parameter. What can I do about it?
[20:57] <kristin> oh, thank you
[20:57] <kristin> !
[20:58] <kristin> i'll try that, knome
[21:00] <wilsonjl3> is there a way to see if the files are all good before putting it on the usb?
[21:01] <ObrienDave> just check the ISO with the MD5 hash. if it matches, all is good
[21:02] <wilsonjl3> how do i do that
[21:02] <ObrienDave> no sure under windows ;P
[21:02] <ObrienDave> *not
[21:02] <wilsonjl3> idk what md5 hash is :P
[21:02] <elfy> 2 secs I'll grab link
[21:02] <wilsonjl3> aha ok
[21:02] <ObrienDave> it's a checksum for the ISO data
[21:02] <wilsonjl3> oh, thanks elfy :D
[21:03] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[21:03] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[21:04] <ObrienDave> which iso did you d/l?
[21:04] <wilsonjl3> xubuntu 14.04
[21:04] <wilsonjl3> a torrent someone here gave me the link too(cant remember who)
[21:05] <ObrienDave> i386? x64?
[21:05] <wilsonjl3> x64 i think
[21:05] <ObrienDave> makes a difference
[21:05] <wilsonjl3> ya 64
[21:05] <ObrienDave> k, sec
[21:06] <ObrienDave> ae446659057ee49e57773bf446398856    xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:07] <ObrienDave> your checksum MUST match this value
[21:07] <wilsonjl3> checksum?
[21:07] <ObrienDave> md5 checksum
[21:07] <wilsonjl3> aha its still downloading
[21:07] <wilsonjl3> slow internet here
[21:07] <ObrienDave> that number is known as a checksum or MD5 hash
[21:08] <wilsonjl3> okay, is there a way to check it without downloading that program elfy sent me the link too?
[21:08] <ObrienDave> not in windows ;P
[21:08] <wilsonjl3> aha okay
[21:09] <ObrienDave> that i know of
[21:10] <wilsonjl3> can i put a system recovery tools iso onto the same flash drive with it or would that mess stuff up?
[21:11] <wilsonjl3> actually nevermind
[21:11] <ObrienDave> i would not recommend doing that
[21:11] <wilsonjl3> yeah
[21:11] <ObrienDave> you can but that involves dual booting on the USB with GRUB or something along that line
[21:12] <wilsonjl3> yeah too complicated, ill stick with this
[21:15] <ObrienDave> it's much easier to have several USBs for various utilities. i have a few for Parted Magic, TAILS, Xubuntu, and so on
[21:15] <kristin> so you think I should add this 'foo=bar' parameter?
[21:16] <wilsonjl3> parted magic?
[21:16] <wilsonjl3> oh nvm
[21:16] <wilsonjl3> thats for partitioning and stuff like that, isnt it?
[21:16] <ObrienDave> http://partedmagic.com/ yes and simple recovery
[21:16] <wilsonjl3> okay
[21:18] <wilsonjl3> so is tails used with another system or is it its own system all together
[21:20] <David-A> wilsonjl3: if you download the .iso using bittorren, the torren itself has checksums in it. so the file will be correct PROVIDED you got the torrent from a legal place.
[21:21] <wilsonjl3> someone here suggested it so i think it probably is
[21:21] <wilsonjl3> maybe
[21:25] <knomt> Trying quasseldroid on m'y Android tablet, running quassel-core on xubuntu. It's great being able to do irc on the go and not worry about de/reconnections...
[21:26] <wilsonjl3> can teamviewer be used on xubuntu?
[21:29] <knomt> If it's me you're asking, I have no idea, but I just looked it up and I'd also be interested to know.
[21:29] <wilsonjl3> i use it quite a bit, its an awesome software/app
[21:30] <David-A> wilsonjl3: the web site says so, have not tried it: http://www.teamviewer.com/sv/download/linux.aspx
[21:31] <wilsonjl3> awesome, thnks david :)
[21:31] <wilsonjl3> you speak swedish?
[21:31] <knomt> But I bet it consumes a lot of bandwidth, so if you wanna do catch up on irc using mobile data, running a quassel core seems way more efficient
[21:32] <esph> kristin: since no one seems to be answering you, 'foo' and 'bar' are words used as dummy/example parameters in the unix world. Looks like you need to add 'allsupport=1' in the same manner that that article says to add 'foo=bar', if you see what I mean.
[21:32] <wilsonjl3> yeah but i use teamviewer to help people with a MUD game i like to play
[21:32] <wilsonjl3> :P
[21:32] <knomt> Well in that case.. ;)
[21:32] <wilsonjl3> hehe yep
[21:33] <David-A> wilsonjl3: there are Vinagre and Remmina remote desktop programs in the software repository (software center), and probably others
[21:34] <wilsonjl3> do the people im helping need to have the programs too?
[21:34] <wilsonjl3> cuz most of them use windows and mac
[21:35] <esph> While we're listing programs that allow screen sharing, skype also does screen sharing if you have that.
[21:36] <David-A> wilsonjl3: they must have a program using the same protocol, not necessarely the same program. in the programs you can choose what protocol to use.
[21:36] <wilsonjl3> aha yes i do, i used skype once, but i cant made changes to their desktop in skype ;)
[21:37] <wilsonjl3> oh okay
[21:37] <David-A> wilsonjl3: if they have X11 (linux or unix) you dont need any fancy program, except ssh, to run programs on their computer but with their gui on your computer.
[21:38] <wilsonjl3> yeah, but most people that use linux-based OS already know how to do their own coding and stuff so they dont need me to help them with the stuff they are trying to do in the game
[21:39] <David-A> wilsonjl3: (ssh) (then it is not "collaboration" because you are the only user of that gui.)
[21:40] <wilsonjl3> okay
[21:41] <Segger> I'm actually using X11 forwarding from my server to run xchat on my windows machine
[21:41] <Segger> When I get back to work im probably gonna remote into my desktop using LogMeIn Rescue
[21:41] <Segger> *is on break*
[21:42] <wilsonjl3> i just use teamviewer to do that :P it has a mobile app too hehe
[21:44] <Segger> my job requires me to login to customer computers with logmein rescue so might as well use it for me
[21:45] <wilsonjl3> what do you do?
[21:48] <wilsonjl3> on UNetbootin do i check the distribution option?
[21:49] <ObrienDave> no, at the bottom you can select which ISO to use
[21:49] <wilsonjl3> ah okay
[21:49] <wilsonjl3> extracting and copying now :)
[21:50] <ObrienDave> cool
[21:52] <wilsonjl3> i rly hope this works, comp has been down for 3 or 4 days and it sucks
[21:52] <ObrienDave> it should, we'll get it working.
[21:52] <wilsonjl3> :) thank you for all the help
[21:53] <ObrienDave> most welcome
[21:54] <wilsonjl3> does anyone here know anything about samsung galaxy tab 3 tablets? :3 i just got one and it keeps updating, its on update 4 or 5 now
[21:57] <ObrienDave> i have a samsung galaxy S4. there have been several updates since i bought mine. not 100% sure about the tab3
[21:57] <ObrienDave> check with xda-developers
[21:57] <ObrienDave> http://www.xda-developers.com/
[21:57] <wilsonjl3> okay, it just keeps updtating one after the other, i'll do that though, thank you (probably just needs all the updates hehe
[21:58] <ObrienDave> probably
[21:59] <wilsonjl3> i think that was the last one, actualy
[22:00] <wilsonjl3> yep it was, im gonna go try the usb now, back in a bit
[22:00] <ObrienDave> ok
[22:02] <arpad2> hello
[22:03] <wilsonjl3> ok i think it worked
[22:03] <arpad2> xubuntu can't find the wi fi printer , is there any idea what to do ? thank you ! http://paste.ubuntu.com/7805860/
[22:03] <wilsonjl3> ok so i think it worked
[22:03] <wilsonjl3> should i try installing?
[22:03] <ObrienDave> cool, you should have a Xubuntu desktop
[22:04] <wilsonjl3> yeah
[22:04] <wilsonjl3> there is an install xubuntu thing to do
[22:04] <ObrienDave> ok, go ahead and install from the desktop icon
[22:04] <wilsonjl3> do i need to get an antivirus for it?
[22:04] <wilsonjl3> and ok
[22:05] <ObrienDave> not yet on the AV
[22:05] <wilsonjl3> av?
[22:05] <ObrienDave> Anti Virus ;P
[22:05] <wilsonjl3> ohh aha ok
[22:05] <David-A> wilsonjl3: normally you do not install antivirus and firewall
[22:05] <David-A> wilsonjl3: just have fun
[22:06] <ObrienDave> don;t worry about things yet. let's get you through the install first ;)
[22:07] <David-A> wilsonjl3: later, if you install servers, for ftp or http or ssh, you may configure a firewall to feel a little more safe.
[22:07] <ObrienDave> when it asks you for input, ask here BEFORE doing anything please
[22:08] <wilsonjl3> ok im at the wireless internet screen, its not letting me put the password in though, says it dosnt need one then wont let me hit continue when i get it in
[22:09] <ObrienDave> do you have a hard wire connection?
[22:09] <wilsonjl3> i could go try one, would that be better?
[22:09] <ObrienDave> can you connect cable to router?
[22:09] <wilsonjl3> yes i can
[22:09] <ObrienDave> please do
[22:09] <wilsonjl3> ok one sec, modem is downstairs
[22:09] <ObrienDave> k
[22:11] <wilsonjl3> ok done
[22:11] <ObrienDave> ok, get that connection working and continue
[22:11] <wilsonjl3> should i check the "download updates while installing" and the "install this third party software" options?
[22:11] <wilsonjl3> ya i did
[22:12] <ObrienDave> ok, you can do both, i like to wait on the updates until later
[22:12] <ObrienDave> yes, do install third party
[22:12] <wilsonjl3> okay :)
[22:13] <wilsonjl3> so if im just using this for FB and mud games and that stuff i dont need an AV?
[22:13] <wilsonjl3> (its loading the next step right now)
[22:13] <ObrienDave> we'll get to that later ;P
[22:13] <esph> How can I diagnose the problem a laptop internal microphone not working at all? In pavucontrol, the little monitor bar under the mic in question shows zero response to clapping, snapping, etc.
[22:13] <wilsonjl3> aha okay :3
[22:13] <esph> the problem of*
[22:14] <ObrienDave> esph, make sure mic level is not off or muted first
[22:14] <esph> ObrienDave: in alsamixer? I tried putting up the mic levels and mic boost levels, but no response.
[22:15] <ObrienDave> what does alsamixer show for the mic numbers?
[22:16] <wilsonjl3> ok, erase disk and install xubuntu, encrypt new xubuntu for security, use lvm with new xubuntu installation and then there is a line to seperate this from the other ones: something else
[22:16] <esph> mic numbers?
[22:16] <ObrienDave> esph, 0, 100, etc
[22:17] <ObrienDave> wilsonjl3, erase and install, encrypt if you like, i don't recommend it
[22:17] <wilsonjl3> what about lvm?
[22:17] <ObrienDave> not sure, anyone?
[22:17] <esph> ObrienDave: you mean the mic levels? Like I said, I tried putting them up (so like 100). It made zero difference.
[22:18] <wilsonjl3> it says it allows taking snapshots and easier partition resizing
[22:18] <ObrienDave> how big is your drive?
[22:18] <wilsonjl3> mine?
[22:18] <ObrienDave> yes
[22:18] <wilsonjl3> i have a bit over 600 gb, maybe more(cant remember exactly)
[22:19] <ObrienDave> esph, something is preventing it from working, not sure
[22:19] <ObrienDave> wilsonjl3, ok, lvm if you like
[22:19] <wilsonjl3> esph maybe it overheated and a mic wire got unsoldered?
[22:20] <esph> wilsonjl3: nah, new computer.
[22:20] <wilsonjl3> okay :)
[22:20] <wilsonjl3> do you have the software for the mic installed?
[22:20] <wilsonjl3> nvm, its a new comp. should come with it
[22:21] <esph> wilsonjl3: remember, this is linux :)
[22:21] <esph> Like I said, it's the internal mic as well.
[22:21] <wilsonjl3> lol i never used linux before today, im used to windows stuffs :3
[22:22] <ObrienDave> esph, have you tried an external mic?
[22:22] <esph> ObrienDave: no, but I'll do that now.
[22:23] <esph> ObrienDave: my USB mic works fine, but then again it is its own soundcard.
[22:23] <esph> don't have another to test with.
[22:24] <ObrienDave> you can plug headphones into the mic jack and they will work as very UNsensitive microphones
[22:24] <wilsonjl3> dave, im at a keyboard layout thing, it says language, has a list of languages and a detect keyboard layout button
[22:24] <wilsonjl3> do i hit the button?
[22:25] <ObrienDave> wilsonjl3, if you're comfortable with the default english settings, yes
[22:25] <wilsonjl3> okay
[22:25] <ObrienDave> and keyboard layout
[22:26] <wilsonjl3> asking who i am :P what is my name, dave?
[22:26] <ObrienDave> LOL whatever you like ;P
[22:26] <wilsonjl3> ;P
[22:26] <wilsonjl3> i am spock
[22:27] <wilsonjl3> installing now
[22:27] <wilsonjl3> wait
[22:27] <wilsonjl3> does chrome work on xubuntu?
[22:27] <wilsonjl3> and skype?
[22:27] <ObrienDave> yes to both
[22:28] <wilsonjl3> ok, whats the default browser?
[22:28] <ObrienDave> firefox
[22:28] <wilsonjl3> ew
[22:28] <esph> firefox >> chrome, but only due to plugins.
[22:28] <wilsonjl3> haha can i download chrome without it affecting the install
[22:28] <wilsonjl3> i prefer chrome, alot more idiot(me!) proof :P
[22:29] <ObrienDave> we can, later. let's get through this one step at a time ;P
[22:29] <wilsonjl3> okay
[22:29] <wilsonjl3> ill brb, gonna go get a drink
[22:29] <ObrienDave> ok, bathroom break for me
[22:29] <wilsonjl3> its retrieving files now
[22:30] <ObrienDave> it'll be a while, depending on your connection speed
[22:33] <wilsonjl3> yeah its downloading languge packs, and my connection kinda sucks, im gonna plug this in, can i come on here on that comp.? i stole my roomie's laptop and he wants it back
[22:34] <wilsonjl3> is Hedge here?
[22:40] <wilsonjl3> configing hardware now :P
[22:40] <wilsonjl3> :D*
[22:40] <wilsonjl3> so happy. thought i was gonna have to get a new comp
[22:42] <ObrienDave> back
[22:42] <wilsonjl3> `wb
[22:43] <ObrienDave> you should have Xchat in the internet folder
[22:43] <wilsonjl3> uhm
[22:43] <wilsonjl3> where is that
[22:44] <ObrienDave> applications Menu, internet, Xchat
[22:44] <ObrienDave> top left corner
[22:44] <wilsonjl3> ohhhhh
[22:44] <wilsonjl3> awesome :3
[22:47] <wilsonjl3> do i just hit ubuntu servers?
[22:48] <ObrienDave> for xchat? freenode
[22:49] <wilsonjl3> okay
[22:50] <wilsonjl3> uhm i dont think it worked
[22:50] <ObrienDave> this channel is on freenode
[22:51] <wilsonjl3> oh this window didnt pop up last time
[22:52] <wilsonjl3Laptop> yay
[22:52] <ObrienDave> welcome wilsonjl3Laptop \o/
[22:54] <wilsonjl3Laptop> aha thanks
[22:54] <wilsonjl3Laptop> ok so its downloading packages now
[22:54] <wilsonjl3Laptop> almost done
[22:55] <ObrienDave> ok, next step is to reboot into your new system, make sure you remove USB first ;P
[22:55] <wilsonjl3Laptop> ok its still downloading
[22:55] <ObrienDave> not a problem
[22:55] <wilsonjl3Laptop> how do i make windows smaller?
[22:56] <wilsonjl3Laptop> nvm, top right corner,
[22:56] <wilsonjl3Laptop> aha this is gonna take some getting used too
[22:56] <ObrienDave> just like windows, look for the window icons top right
[22:56] <ObrienDave> naw, easy peasy
[22:57] <ObrienDave> for now, keep it like it is. you can customize it later
[22:57] <Windbag> Hey guys, I've enabled accessibility options, I get some text under it telling me I need to log out, nothing loads, I get the same message - Am I missing packages?
[22:57] <ObrienDave> not sure on that
[22:57] <wilsonjl3Laptop> lol i had windows customized, i had the bar thats normally along the bottom moved to the left side and it would be hidden unless i moved my mouse over it and a buncha other stuff like that :P
[22:58] <Windbag> I've even rebooted :p
[22:58] <ObrienDave> wilsonjl3Laptop, not sure about left or right but you can do top/bottom and auto hide
[22:59] <wilsonjl3Laptop> nah, in windows its alot bigger, 2 or 3x the size, thats why i hid it
[22:59] <wilsonjl3Laptop> is photoshop cc compatible with Xubuntu?
[22:59] <knome> no
[22:59] <ObrienDave> not that i know of
[22:59] <wilsonjl3Laptop> awww
[22:59] <wilsonjl3Laptop> okay
[23:00] <wilsonjl3Laptop> ok gotta restart, brb
[23:00] <ObrienDave> but, you can probably get it to work under WINE or use GIMP for image processing
[23:04] <wilsonjl3> hey im back
[23:05] <wilsonjl3> its downloading updates right now
[23:05] <David-A> :)
[23:05] <wilsonjl3> what else needs to be done??
[23:05] <ObrienDave> \o/
[23:05] <wilsonjl3> \o/
[23:05] <ObrienDave> WAIT for it to finish
[23:05] <wilsonjl3> lol okayyyy
[23:06] <wilsonjl3> oh btw im an impatient person
[23:06] <wilsonjl3> incase you havent noticed
[23:06] <wilsonjl3> :P
[23:06] <David-A> you don't say?
[23:06] <wilsonjl3> ahahaha
[23:06] <ObrienDave> MOST important to do things one step at a time ;P yes WE noticed LOL
[23:06] <wilsonjl3> hehe okay ill wait
[23:07] <wilsonjl3> any useful linux-android apps i should have on my phone? :3
[23:11] <xangua> when did #xubuntu become #android¿
[23:11] <wilsonjl3> is there a #android?
[23:15] <ali1234> yes
[23:16] <ali1234> they aren't very helpful though
[23:16] <wilsonjl3> oh
[23:18] <wilsonjl3> is it possible to take xubuntu off of the usb drive now?
[23:21] <ObrienDave> yes, just format the drive
[23:22] <ObrienDave> make sure you select the USB drive and not your HD lol
[23:23] <wilsonjl3> ahaha i would cry
[23:23] <wilsonjl3> having to do all that again
[23:23] <wilsonjl3> its about 1/3 of the way done these updates though
[23:23] <ObrienDave> 2nd time is easier ;P
[23:24] <wilsonjl3> and just as fun as the first time :P
[23:24] <ObrienDave> wait until you bork it and have to redo everything LOL
[23:24] <wilsonjl3> bork?
[23:25] <wilsonjl3> wouldnt let me skip the firefox update :P
[23:25] <ObrienDave> nope, not to worry, you have plenty of HD space, we'll get there
[23:26] <wilsonjl3> ya its actualy 800 gb :3
[23:26] <wilsonjl3> not 600
[23:27] <David-A> wilsonjl3: (if you have several usb sticks, keep the live system on this one, for maintenance and rescue operations, if you want.) (or to demonstrate xubuntu to so called friends on their computers)
[23:27]  * ObrienDave has 1.5TB in lappy ;P
[23:27] <wilsonjl3> so called friends?
[23:27] <wilsonjl3> and aha nice!
[23:27] <wilsonjl3> and the only reason i have to take it of is cuz i didnt have an extra one so i borrowed it
[23:29] <David-A> wilsonjl3: yes, depending on their computer interest, demonstrating linux can change where on the friendness scale you are
[23:29] <ObrienDave> rofl so true
[23:29] <wilsonjl3> and when i accidentaly fry their data cuz idk what im doing it will drop me off it, right? :P
[23:30] <David-A> :)
[23:30] <ObrienDave> pretty much, yes :P
[23:30] <wilsonjl3> aha thought so
[23:30] <wilsonjl3> but i know how to do it now, so thats good
[23:30] <ObrienDave> but that's why you keep the USB, it is self-contained
[23:31] <ObrienDave> you could remove their HD and still run from the USB
[23:31] <wilsonjl3> my uncle dual-boots with xubuntu. i just remembered that, and yeah, im gonna get a new usb and make a cop, the one im using right now is an angry birds green pig :P
[23:31] <wilsonjl3> copy, also
[23:31] <ObrienDave> cute
[23:32] <wilsonjl3> ya till you realize the usb part goes into the pig's butt when its not being used :P
[23:32] <ObrienDave> don't show my wife, she'll steal it
[23:33] <wilsonjl3> aha  dont think i have to worry about that
[23:34] <ObrienDave> you don't know my wife LOL
[23:36] <ObrienDave> my wife could sell ice to an eskimo inside of an igloo during a blizzard
[23:36] <wilsonjl3> ahaha
[23:37] <wilsonjl3> well the ice is for fresh water of course
[23:37] <ObrienDave> salt water does not freeze
[23:37] <ObrienDave> icebergs are fresh water ;P
[23:38] <wilsonjl3> aha they dont know that
[23:38] <wilsonjl3> ;P
[23:39] <wilsonjl3> or she could convince them it isnt
[23:40] <ObrienDave> she can argue either way then turn it it around and convince them the other is correct
[23:40] <ObrienDave> she give me a headache all of the time ;P
[23:42] <wilsonjl3> ahaha mine is just stubborn
[23:42] <ObrienDave> sheesh mine too
[23:43] <wilsonjl3> will yours give you the silent treatment for a week because you refused to stay at her cranky old  whiny mothers house?
[23:44] <ObrienDave> LOL try getting mad at me for something that happened 15 years ago
[23:44] <ObrienDave> it's like, what?
[23:45] <wilsonjl3> ahaha seriosuly?
[23:45] <ObrienDave> i have a great sense of humor and tell terrific jokes but i NEVER kid ;P
[23:46] <ObrienDave> oh, wait, did i say that?


[03:20] <boredandblogging> please digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_74
[03:27] <jchase> dugg
[03:32] <boredandblogging> jchase: thanks
[03:33] <jchase> no problemo
[05:33] <n2diy_> Flannel: The other evening you suggested I install Sabre to play shoot em up flying games. I did so, but now when I run RunSabre, and select something from the menu, I get an svgalib error? Any other hoops I need to jump through?
[05:35] <Flannel> n2diy_: No idea.  I just did an apt-cache search
[05:44] <n2diy> Flannel, ok thanks.
[05:46] <n2diy> My local school board wants to spend $40,000 plus to upgrade their obsolete hardware and software. I wrote a letter to the editor explaining this could be done for minimal cost. But it was ignored, and not printed. Anybody have some boiler plate copy for something like this?
[09:37] <mrevell> Hey guys - I've just sent the "Hardy is open for translation" announcement to ubuntu-news. Would one of you guys be able to approve it?


[19:04] <niko> nobody against a clean up there ?
[19:04] <niko> i means there is few useless ban there
[19:05] <Myrtti> humdidumdidum
[19:05] <niko> -_-
[19:05] <niko> there is one quiet too
[19:06] <Myrtti> yeah, I'm checking them from the bantracker first
[19:06] <Myrtti> as soon as the daft bot wakes up
[19:06] <Pici> here?
[19:07] <Myrtti> !test
[19:12] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[23:45] <Pendulum> hiya, I'm a new Ubuntu member and was told to ask in here about getting a cloak?
[23:46] <malev> hi folks! is there an irc team in ubuntu?
[23:52] <jpds> malev: Yes.
[23:52] <jpds> Pendulum: Sure, one moment.
[23:52] <malev> jpds, could you tell me the wiki please?
[23:52] <jpds> elky, Pricey, Pici, ^-- incoming.
[23:53] <jpds> malev: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam
[23:53] <malev> thanks!
[23:53] <elky> jpds, pricey and i are no longer useful for cloaks.
[23:53] <rww> jpds: I think your IRCC trigger's a little out of date ;P
[23:53] <jpds> Whatever.
[23:54] <elky> heh
[23:54] <elky> Pici, topyli, jussi01 ^^
[23:54] <rww> and while you're being pinged, I'd like ubuntu/member/rww :) https://launchpad.net/~robertwall
[23:55] <m4v> !ircc
[23:56] <m4v> I though there would be a factoid for hilight its members
[23:56] <m4v> thought*