[08:05] <timi> anyone know how to change their bootsplash
[08:06] <noiesmo> timi, yeh chceck out the menu.1st in /boot/grub/ there should be a ref for bootsplash just before kernel lists and there should be a older in /boot/grub/splashblah
[08:07] <noiesmo> timi, it should say splashimage
[08:08] <josh__> ok
[08:08] <josh__> jesus
[08:08] <josh__> i need to sleep
[08:08] <timi> not there
[08:08] <timi> is ther a prgm
[08:09] <timi> i tried to compile kbootsplash but i guess it doesnt work for kubuntu
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> http://pastebin.ca/99305
[08:10] <noiesmo> timi, ok sudo apt-get install grub-splashimages
[08:10] <timi> alright
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: ^^
[08:11] <timi> alright i got it
[08:11] <noiesmo> timi, I take it youv'e got the stock kubutu splash its only the grub one
[08:11] <timi> yeah, and i changed my splash screen and kdm so i wanted the matching bootsplash
[08:11] <timi> where do i open the grub splashimages
[08:12] <timi> do i just run it
[08:12] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, hey I can't read greman dude I was just muching around before sorry but it looks like there are conflicts
[08:12] <MilhousePunkRock> let me guess, noiesmo... No chance I can get those packages from adept?
[08:12] <timi> he noiesmo i cant find what i just installed
[08:12] <timi> where is it
[08:12] <noiesmo> timi, eh chceck out the menu.1st in /boot/grub/ there should be a ref for bootsplash just before kernel lists and there should be a older in /boot/grub/splashimages
[08:13] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, what it means is that another package or app is dependant on some of the things you already have
[08:13] <timi> sweet i c it
[08:14] <timi> but i dont know how i choose one/ set as default
[08:14] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, and it would break your system if apt installed whats need for the new app you want
[08:14] <noiesmo> timi, open /boot/grub/menu.1st there should be a line like
[08:15] <timi> ok i did
[08:15] <noiesmo> splashimage=(h0,2)/boot/grub/splashimages/blah.xpm.gz
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: Any chance compiling it myself will work? That was what I tried before I discovered the .deb package
[08:16] <Dodger_> so, i'm trying to get the printing server configured - when i do that via the control panel, it asks me for a username and password for the printing system
[08:16] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, it might compile but you may need some dev packages to do that
[08:16] <Dodger_> none of mine work, so is there a default i should use?
[08:17] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, what's the name of the app again
[08:17] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: I installed tons of dev packages for it yesterday...
[08:17] <cpk2> noiesmo: i just catted my menu.lst and didnt see a line that had splashimage=
[08:17] <timi> noeismo am i to edit a line that looks like that or just add it
[08:17] <timi> ^^^
[08:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Kpowersave 0.6.2
[08:18] <noiesmo> timi cpk2  my grub has it if yours does not you can add it
[08:18] <noiesmo> timi, cpk2 it goes after the line in grub that reads
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> timi: If you saw the stock kubuntu splash, there most likely is a line like that already
[08:18] <cpk2> noiesmo: i am assuming it goes after "end of default options"
[08:18] <noiesmo> timi, cpk2 ## ## End Default Options ## ##
[08:19] <timi> ok so we add it after end efeault options
[08:19] <noiesmo> timi, cpk2 add in splashimage=(h0,2)/boot/grub/splashimages/blah.xpm.gz replace h0,2 and the blah bit with the appropriate thing
[08:19] <cpk2> noiesmo: where should i insert it just at the bottom of it is ok? it looks like order might matter
[08:19] <noiesmo> timi, cpk2 ## ## End Default Options ## ## after this line just before your first title
[08:22] <Ademan_> what ports does samba use?
[08:23] <ironfroggy> is there anyway to have my laptop's wifi light controlled to light up when the wifi card is turned on?
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> this is a pretty geeky splash: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26888
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> ironfroggy: Shouldn't that work by default?
[08:23] <ironfroggy> i thought it would, but it doesnt.
[08:24] <ironfroggy> all those LEDs are programmable i suppose, so there is just no hardwired connection between it and the wifi card.
[08:25] <noiesmo> 135-139 445 Ademan
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Night guys
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> ironfroggy: So you mean the Laptop's lights, like for Caos-Lock? Sorry, I over-read that
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> CU DaSkreech
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Caps-Lock*
[08:25] <ironfroggy> yes, the light on my laptop. what did you think i meant?
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> The lights on your card (if it was an external one, Carbus for example)
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Isn't that one always one when the card is activated?
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> The internal one
[08:26] <ironfroggy> its not on the card directly. its above the laptop keyboard and the wifi chipset is internal.
[08:27] <ironfroggy> like i said, almost surely isnt even a connection between them in hardware, so i suppose the drivers are expected to control the LED.
[08:27] <ironfroggy> i havent seen the light outside of windows.
[08:28] <cpk2> noiesmo: gonna see if the splash screen works now
[08:28] <noiesmo> cpk2, ok
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> ironfroggy: On my girlfriend's Laptop (mine doesn't have internal wifi) the light is always on if the card is activated, never flashing when it's receiving etc
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: That's where I ended up when I tried compiling it, before abattoir said there might be a .deb http://pastebin.ca/99281
[08:30] <ironfroggy> MilhousePunkRock: yes thats how mine was until i started using kubuntu on it.
[08:30] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi, kpowersave works?
[08:30] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, ah ok abattoir no
[08:30] <abattoir> timi: didnt i already give you that link?
[08:30] <abattoir> or was it someone else? :S
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: The deb depends on very new packages...
[08:31] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: kde 3.5.3?
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Yes
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: I wanted to go back to compiling it myself now...
[08:31] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmmm... tried converting the rpm w/ alien
[08:32] <ironfroggy> ive been digging all over for this, but i cant find anything.. is there some way to configure certain remote mounted files to be available when the machine is offline?
[08:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Although I wonder if it will work if the deb needs very new packages...
[08:32] <noiesmo> why not add repo for kde 3.5.3 and update kde then install kpowersave
[08:32] <ironfroggy> i want to basically sync certain files into local caches, and for them to be available at the same location when the remote share is not available.
[08:32] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: I updated to KDE 3.5.3 a while ago
[08:33] <timi> abbatoir i dont think so
[08:33] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: then you should be able to install
[08:33] <Ademan> noiesmo: tcp or udp?
[08:33] <noiesmo> repo for kde 3.5.3   deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu dapper main
[08:33] <ironfroggy> are there any solutions for this available, or am i looking for something crazy?
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: That's what the deb gave told me --> http://pastebin.ca/99305
[08:34] <noiesmo> Ademan, dam not sure of top I just opened firestarter and added rule for samba and thats the ports
[08:34] <Ademan> lol oh, thanks though
[08:34] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock,  repo for kde 3.5.3   deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu dapper main
[08:34] <noiesmo> Ademan, yes lol :)
[08:35] <cpk2> noiesmo: should i edit out quiet splash from kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[08:35] <noiesmo> Ademan, firestarters great little iptables app
[08:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmm, it doesn depend on newer packages...
[08:35] <noiesmo> cpk2, no but I think the splassh you want to change is not the one I thought you wanted to change
[08:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: did you try converting the rpm to deb?
[08:35] <MilhousePunkRock> not yet, abattoir
[08:35] <noiesmo> cpk2 want really https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:36] <Healot> !alien
[08:36] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: maybe 'alien' can be of help
[08:36] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:36] <abattoir> !info alien
[08:36] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> "but it's quite dangerous" hmmm...
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Isn't compiling it myself preferable over using an rpm package?
[08:39] <noiesmo> hmm kpowersave will install for me running dapper kde 3.5.3 with apt-get upgrade from yesterday
[08:39] <noiesmo> abattoir, don't think i'd be using rpm unless absolutly last resort no?
[08:40] <timi> how do i create an xpm.gz
[08:40] <abattoir> noiesmo: he has all the necessary packages for compiling installed, but pkg-config still complains
[08:40] <abattoir> noiesmo: eg. it wants hal installed, he's got hal installed, but it still complains
[08:40] <wolfmanz> abattoir got a new amd kernal loading up this should get some spraks flying lol
[08:41] <cpk2> MilhousePunkRock: probably but rpm will resolve depencies for you
[08:41] <noiesmo> abattoir, yes i know doesnt that indicat another packages holding on to some other packages that kpowersave needs and thats why he get s conflict though
[08:42] <abattoir> noiesmo: i suspect it has something to do w/ pkg-builder(or whatever)'s path
[08:42] <noiesmo> abattoir, if that makes sense
[08:42] <abattoir> noiesmo: but tbh, i've used alien successfully... havent had a single problem till now
[08:43] <wolfmanz> When you install a new kernal should you remove the old ones through adept or just leave them?
[08:43] <MilhousePunkRock> apt-get upgrade tells me, there are unresolved dependencies
[08:43] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, try sudo apt-get --fix-missing
[08:43] <abattoir> wolfmanz: you can remove them if you want, but make sure grub is also update
[08:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Kpowersave was partially installed it seems
[08:43] <abattoir> *updated
[08:44] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?
[08:44] <noiesmo> or ^^^^^^^^^
[08:44] <wolfmanz> how do you do that?
[08:44] <noiesmo> wolfmanz, up to you
[08:44] <abattoir> wolfmanz: does grub boot you into your new kernel?
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> i did that, abattoir, now kpowersave was removed
[08:44] <noiesmo> wolfmanz, i remove my old ones once i'm happy with new one
[08:44] <abattoir> are there entries for the new kernel in grub?
[08:44] <wolfmanz> no id ea i havent restarted yet :D
[08:44] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i guess that is the partially installed kpowersave, not the old one
[08:45] <noiesmo> wolfmanz, reboot make sure alls good then you can use adapt to remove old kernels
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> i removed the old one yesterday already, before i started compiling the new one
[08:45] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ok, then that's good
[08:45] <wolfmanz> whats the command to see what kernal is in use?
[08:45] <noiesmo> uname -a
[08:45] <noiesmo> uname -r
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> will any of the -f options you mentioned here give me the packages that the new kpowersave is missing?
[08:46] <MilhousePunkRock> After I fail to install the deb again, of course...
[08:46] <wolfmanz> if i dont come back you know why lol keep a eye out for unbuntu_ lol
[08:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: that resolves dependencies and installs/removes conflicting packages
[08:46] <nubster> hello everyone.....can anyone gimme a hand with my problem....sont seem to have libqt3-mt in my system and i cant find it in synaptic pkg manager
[08:46] <noiesmo> nubster, open a konsole and type
[08:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: wait, let me test the rpm out for you
[08:46] <abattoir> gimme link if you can
[08:47] <noiesmo> nubster, sudo apt-cache search libqt3-mt
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> One second, abattoir
[08:47] <noiesmo> nubster, see whats returned then do sudo apt-get install libqt3-mtblah
[08:47] <nubster> what do u mean...there isnt a plain libqt3-mt?
[08:48] <nubster> cuz really i am trying to istall opera but the dependency isnt satisfied because appearnt dont have that lib
[08:48] <noiesmo> nubster, not sure of top but thats what I'd try if i cant find the package
[08:49] <noiesmo> nubster, also maybe its your repo there is a package called libqt3-mt
[08:49] <timi> is kbfx integrated or is a package i need to download
[08:49] <abattoir> !info libqt3-mt
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=124576&package_id=162439
[08:49] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In repository main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3078 kB, installed size 8728 kB
[08:49] <abattoir> nubster: ^^^^
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: But I think in the end it was only a path problem when compiling...
[08:49] <schmakk> why is it that apps started with kdesu uses a really small font?
[08:49] <nubster> i cant find just libqt3-mt i have libqt3-mt-mysql and others
[08:49] <nubster> does it make a diff?
[08:50] <abattoir> guys, sorry, i have to go now
[08:50] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i dont know, try exporting the PATH
[08:50] <abattoir> nubster: there is plain libqt3-mt see what ubotu posted above
[08:51] <abattoir> bye
[08:51] <noiesmo> abattoir, bye
[08:51] <timi> i just installed kbfx from adept
[08:51] <timi> but i cant find it anywhere
[08:52] <wolfmanz> well the lord didnt takeith away that time so thats good lol
[08:52] <noiesmo> nubster, yes it will make a dif maybe add another repo to your sources list maybe the server you have doesnt have it for some reason
[08:52] <nubster> well it's not showing up on mine
[08:52] <noiesmo> wolfmanz, hey your back ne kernel
[08:52] <nubster> i see everything but that
[08:52] <noiesmo> nubster, it is on mine can give you my aussie repo
[08:53] <nubster> ?
[08:53] <wolfmanz> noiesmo ya that install went without any issues
[08:53] <noiesmo> nubster, deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[08:54] <noiesmo> wolfmanz, nice
[08:54] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: How do I do that`
[08:54] <MilhousePunkRock> ?
[08:55] <farous> nubster: goto packages.ubuntu.com and locate which repos have the package you want
[08:55] <farous> nubster: it will be listed under kde
[08:55] <nubster> thanks i will try that
[08:57] <ironfroggy> is it ok to remove the kubuntu-desktop meta-package?
[08:57] <Hobbsee> ironfroggy: yes
[08:57] <ironfroggy> wont remove kde or anything, right?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> ironfroggy: no, but you'll need it again when you want to upgrade tothe next release
[08:58] <farous> ironfroggy: if you did not install kubuntu-desktop using aptitude it will not remove kde
[08:59] <ironfroggy> its only being removed because i removed one of the packages it installed (akregator). would aptitude have removed it in that case?
[09:00] <farous> ironfroggy: no
[09:00] <farous> ironfroggy: i mean it will not remove kde if that is your question.
[09:00] <ironfroggy> ok
[09:02] <ironfroggy> is there a better feed reader than that to replace it with?
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I specify a target path on untaring?
[09:04] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf ?
[09:04] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {file}
[09:05] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {file} -C /this/is/the/path ;)
[09:05] <aegeanlinux> soz, should read better next time ;)
[09:05] <Healot> minus the "-"
[09:06] <aegeanlinux> the - is optional Healot ;) I like it because it shows its and option
[09:06] <aegeanlinux> just personal {insert word meaning "thing"}
[09:08] <timi> how does kbfx work
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx aegeanlinux
[09:09] <aegeanlinux> timi: right click on kicker and say add panel
[09:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Will that keep the read/write permissions from the archive?
[09:09] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: It's all good ;)
[09:09] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: it might , don't quote me
[09:09] <timi> i dont see it there, i got it using adept
[09:10] <Dodger_> i've got a problem going through my proxy
[09:11] <Dodger_> seems like the settings i set in the control panel don't work - i have to manually export the http_proxy environment variable every new session
[09:11] <Dodger_> has anyone else ever seen this before?
[09:12] <noipmixam> yea somehow
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I check which version of a package I have?
[09:13] <aegeanlinux> something to do with dpkg
[09:13] <helpplz> how can I get sound to work in quake3?
[09:13] <aegeanlinux> type "man dpkg" to
[09:13] <aegeanlinux> see how to do it
[09:13] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: apt-cache show foo
[09:13] <aegeanlinux> (or with adapt)
[09:13] <aegeanlinux> Hobbsee: TY ;)
[09:14] <Hobbsee> aegeanlinux: :)
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> So it seems powersaved is too old to compile Kpowersave
[09:16] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: yeah....
[09:16] <Hobbsee> you'd need to compile both
[09:18] <MilhousePunkRock> What about using a .deb for powersave?
[09:18] <MilhousePunkRock> +d
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to determine what version of powersaved is in the edgy repos?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: unlikely to work.  what do you want out of the new kpowersave?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: sure, apt-cache show powersaved
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> hmmm, that shows me 0.12.15, i need .18 for the newest Kpowersave
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Neither mouse nor keyboard work when I resume from Suspend to RAM, I am desperately trying to fix that for a few days, with help from here and google...
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> I thought upgrading KPowersave might help, Hobbsee
[09:23] <crimsun> do we need a newer powersaved?
[09:24] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: ahh.  upgrading powersaved might help, or upgrading your kernel.
[09:24] <Hobbsee> crimsun: it's on the list of stuff to do for edgy, yeah
[09:24] <crimsun> Hobbsee: is it lock-stepped, or should we push it in today?
[09:24] <Hobbsee> crimsun: huh?
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, I shall try to upgrade powersaved than...
[09:25] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i have a version, and a version of kpowersave (source), but the two dont play nicely
[09:25] <crimsun> Hobbsee: meaning is there a hard sequence order...ok.
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Once that is done though, I can use the newest K8e anyway
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: powersaved from source or using a deb?
[09:26] <Hobbsee> crimsun: meaning you have to have a high enough level of powersaved to use kpowersave, yeah, if that's what you mean
[09:26] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: source
[09:26] <Desh> Would overclocking a laptop athlon 64 be a bad idea?
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Which can be found at sourceforge I assume?
[09:26] <crimsun> Hobbsee: hmm, ok. I see Debian only has 0.12.20-1 of src:powersave; I presume that's insufficient?
[09:27] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i really dont know - that's what i merged in - and debian has the latest kpowersave too.
[09:29] <MilhousePunkRock> crimsun: That's the newest...
[09:30] <crimsun> right.
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> We have .15
[09:30] <crimsun> I'm new to KDE, so I don't have the latest versions memorised yet
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> The newest K8e (0.6.2) requires .18
[09:30] <crimsun> MilhousePunkRock: presuming 0.12.18, correct?
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, crimsun
[09:31] <crimsun> all right, Hobbsee, ball's in your court
[09:31] <crimsun> if you need me to help test, let me know in the next 20 mins or so
[09:32] <Hobbsee> crimsun: huh?  oh dear.
[09:32] <Hobbsee> crimsun: it's in lure's court, really :P
[09:32] <crimsun> oh, ok.
[09:32] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: oh.  the old kpowersave doesnt work with the new powersaved, fyi
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> I am hoping I can use the new Kpo.. once I compiled the new pow...
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> By the way, since people always mention new kernels to solve my suspend/resume problem... Is there an advantage to use a 686 kernel instead of a 386?
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> On a Pentium 3 Mobile...
[09:35] <crimsun> for smp/ht/*core support, perhaps
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> ht as in hyperthreading? don't have that... *core as in core duo? same.. what's smp?
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> support multiple processors?
[09:37] <crimsun> yes
[09:37] <crimsun> to all.
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> One thing before I compile powersave: Someone suggested using "--prefix=/usr/local/" when running ./configure
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> What does that do?
[09:38] <crimsun> it should default to /usr/local
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> So it won't hurt to use that?
[09:40] <koriel> hi all, I'm having problems with my nvidia driver...I did a full upgrade using adept and now every time I use glx my system logs me out to the login screen, something like restarting X I think
[09:40] <crimsun> MilhousePunkRock: nope.
[09:40] <Healot> if you're thinking not to mix self-compiled packages with the stock packages, MilfhousePunkRock
[09:42] <koriel> in the syslog I got something about gconfd
[09:42] <koriel> so my question is how can I setup kubuntu to boot from console and not the gui
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> It's missing "dbus-glib-1!
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> !="
[09:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about =" - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[09:44] <Healot> lol MilfhousePunkRock
[09:44] <marcus__> Just wondering how I can add folders to public_html and have them be visible on the web.
[09:45] <noipmixam> anyway I can setup konqueror
[09:45] <cpk2> marcus__: apache defaults to /var/www/ you can add folders to that or link them to that and you can access them via your domain
[09:46] <helpplz> if I use alsa and quake I heared uses oss.. is that why I get no sound in quake?
[09:46] <noipmixam> or any web browser
[09:46] <MistaED> MilhousePunkRock, the 686 kernel, if it's anything like the k7 one, will probably enable power save and possibly that suspend/resume solution, also what video chip do you have and what driver?
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> S3 SuperSavage
[09:47] <Healot> install apache? add path directive, bind apache to your internet ip address, (re)start apache, bam
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> It's not a video problem... Trackpoint and keyboard are dead after resume, though I can restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:48] <MistaED> MilhousePunkRock, ok if it was an nvidia i would say to enable nvagp instead of agpgart
[09:48] <MistaED> ah
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Suspending and resuming worked fine on Windows though *ducksandcovers*
[09:49] <noipmixam> figure
[09:49] <MistaED> MilhousePunkRock, i'm sure it did with all of its undivided third party support attention ;) hmm, are the keyboard and mouse issues solved when you restart X?
[09:50] <noipmixam> seems like your last updates prenvent me from installing any win os
[09:50] <marcus__> cpk2: I enabled user directories, yet any directory I place in it is not recognized by apache. How would i go about linking the directories to my home directory?
[09:50] <MilhousePunkRock> yes, MistaED, but that starts a new session, of course
[09:51] <noipmixam> sysinfo
[09:51] <noipmixam> Sysinfo for 'MixAM-toplap': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 997 MHz (1997 bogomips), , RAM: 236/1002MB, 85 proc's, 14.8min up
[09:52] <cotroler> Hello, I got a problem. I installed nvidia drivers and now when i boot linux I just get a black screen :(
[09:52] <cpk2> marcus_: linking the dirs to /var/www/ is just so you dont have to move that dir
[09:52] <wolfmanz> How do i tell what video drivers i'm using ?
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Where can I possibly get the dbus-glib I need to compile powersave?
[09:52] <cpk2> marcus_: have you tried putting files/dirs in /var/www/ ?
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> sysinfo
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> How did you do that, noipmixam?
[09:53] <cotroler> Hello, I got a problem. I installed nvidia drivers and now when i boot linux I just get a black screen :(
[09:53] <marcus__> cpk2: not yet, it might just be easier to put the directories there. I'll give it a try.
[09:53] <noipmixam> what
[09:53] <cpk2> sysinfo
[09:53] <noipmixam> "/sysinfo
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> That sysinfo... Did you paste it?
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Sysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 732 MHz (1466 bogomips), , RAM: 246/249MB, 80 proc's, 3.2h up
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> nice
[09:54] <cpk2> guess gaim doesnt support that =\
[09:54] <noipmixam> Qt: 3.3.6
[09:54] <noipmixam> KDE: 3.5.2
[09:54] <noipmixam> kde-config: 1.0
[09:54] <kraut> moin
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning, kraut
[09:55] <noipmixam> almost considered like flooding
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Where can I possibly get that dbus-glib thingy I need for powersave?
[09:56] <cotroler> Hello, I got a problem. I installed nvidia drivers and now when i boot linux I just get a black screen :( any help pls??
[09:56] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: debian or ubuntu?
[09:56] <Hobbsee> probably debian
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Kubuntu
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> How did you do that now, noipmixam
[09:57] <wolfmanz> How do i tell what video drivers i'm using ?
[09:57] <noipmixam> hmmm
[09:57] <noipmixam> "/qurl
[09:58] <noipmixam> "/weather
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[10:00] <noipmixam> just wondering how I can take back control of my laptop
[10:02] <kraut> moin moin MilhousePunkRock
[10:02] <marcus__> is it possible to play mkv files in linux?
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> kraut: This is the international (thus english) channel... German channel is #kubuntu-de
[10:03] <noipmixam> Random Fortune: One of the things that hamper Linux's climb to world domination is the shortage of bad Computer Role Playing Games, or CRaPGs. No operating system can be considered respectable without one. 	-- Brian O'Donnell<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:03] <noipmixam> bla bla bla
[10:04] <cpk2> ummm ok?
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Computers are not toys for everyone, noipmixam
[10:04] <noipmixam> well ... I wish
[10:05] <noipmixam> but this laptop is a toy for that dev team since they have control over it
[10:07] <noipmixam> remove that VESA stuff and I might use it well
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: I think now I am exploring regions that will trash my whole system...
[10:09] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: heh, well....no, you can always dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kpowersaveandpowersaved.deb 's
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> powersave was missing dbus-glib-1, dbus-glib-1 was missing dbus-1, dbus-1 has been replaced with dbus
[10:11] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: take all those packages from debian then, i expect
[10:11] <MilhousePunkRock> So if I now get a package for dbus-1, I'm sure it will have conflicts with dbus...
[10:13] <Healot> !info dbus
[10:13] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.60-6ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 316 kB, installed size 700 kB
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, Hobbsee, it won't install, says it collides with dbus
[10:14] <Hobbsee> !info dbus edgy
[10:14] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.62-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 323 kB, installed size 708 kB
[10:14] <Hobbsee> !info dbus-1 edgy
[10:14] <ubotu> Package dbus-1 does not exist in edgy
[10:14] <Hobbsee> hum, okay.  i never tried it with dapper
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !info dbus-glib
[10:15] <ubotu> Package dbus-glib does not exist in dapper
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !info dbus-glib edgy
[10:15] <ubotu> Package dbus-glib does not exist in edgy
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !info dbus-glib-1 edgy
[10:15] <ubotu> Package dbus-glib-1 does not exist in edgy
[10:15] <Hobbsee> hmm
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !search dbus
[10:15] <ubotu> Found nothing
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !search dbus edgy
[10:15] <ubotu> Found nothing
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !search kde
[10:15] <ubotu> Found: desktops, latest kde, code, appsy, tar, koffice, kde, burners, apt, usplash (and 27 more)
[10:15] <Hobbsee> ah
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Looks like when I am done I'll have a semi-Debian system... If it ever works...
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Am I right to assume that removing dbus and installing dbus-1 will get me in trouble?
[10:17] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: no idea.  but i would get a backup of /home before you play too much :P
[10:17] <cotroler> i got this error guys any help? EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found)
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Nothing really important in /home
[10:18] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: only msot of your settigns
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Ah, ok...
[10:20] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:20] <Hobbsee> make sur eyou grab the hidden files from there too
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, they are probably why I thought there was nothing important in there...
[10:21] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: whynot just add a new user and login using the new user account
[10:22] <Hobbsee> farous: not for testing out *powersave stuff
[10:22] <farous> Hobbsee: for doing adminstrative stuff i thought :)
[10:23] <Hobbsee> farous: well, yeah, but if you're making changes to the entire system in terms of packages - its' hardly recommended :P
[10:23] <francesco> ciao
[10:23] <farous> yah i understand now why he need the backup did not see the previous posts before :)
[10:24] <Hobbsee> farous: :)
[10:24] <ironfroggy> does anyone know if there are plans for future versions of OpenOffice to be hardware accelerated?
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> I just figured that my /home is twice the size of my thumbdrive
[10:27] <MilhousePunkRock> So how brutally can e.g. ark compress stuff? 50%  ? ;-)
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe it's a good moment now to see if my 250 GB external HDD will work in Kubuntu...
[10:29] <cpk2> MilhousePunkRock: i have am runnung kubuntu off a 400 gig HDD
[10:29] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: hehe!  yes, my /home doesnt fit on my usb stick either - but i do development stuff there, and have two chroots there, so...
[10:29] <cpk2> external
[10:30] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: how's stuff going? what are you upto now? :P
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Be glad you weren't there... I am about to do really risky business here...
[10:31] <abattoir> why? what are you going to do?
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> replacing dbus-1 with dbus
[10:31] <abattoir> and how do you know i dont take joy in others screwing up their systems :P ?
[10:31] <wolfmanz> he is a windows user he likes to screw with linux people lol
[10:32] <Hobbsee> abattoir: he's lookign at getting the new *powersave* stuff on edgy
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> FAT32 shouldn't a prob for Linux, right?
[10:32] <abattoir> Hobbsee: last i checked it has the same version as in dapper
[10:32] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: no
[10:32] <abattoir> oh powersave, though kpowersave
[10:32] <Hobbsee> abattoir: that's cos lure/myself havent merged it yet.
[10:33] <Hobbsee> abattoir: applies to both of them
[10:33] <abattoir> Hobbsee: oh, so he's your guinea pig today :P
[10:33] <Hobbsee> abattoir: nope...he's figuring that out himself.
[10:33] <Hobbsee> abattoir: my version's on revu, but it doesnt seem to wrok
[10:33] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: no, it shouldnt
[10:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: it would be a pity if after all this trouble you find out that resume still doesnt work :(
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Wow, true plug and play...
[10:34] <user-land> Hello, what do you use for FTP in Kubuntu ?
[10:34] <abattoir> user-land: kbear
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> So how do I backup my _entire_ /home now?
[10:34] <user-land> thanks, abattoir.
[10:34] <abattoir> user-land: :)
[10:34] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Shh, abattoir... Don't speak out my biggest fear...
[10:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: which one is that?
[10:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: dont very, i dont think replacing dbus would make that much of a difference... but that's only me :)
[10:36] <abattoir> Hobbsee: keep isnt in dapper right?
[10:36] <abattoir> !info keep
[10:36] <Hobbsee> abattoir: check apt-cache rdepends dbus
[10:36] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 202 kB, installed size 832 kB
[10:36] <Hobbsee> !info keep dapper
[10:36] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 202 kB, installed size 832 kB
[10:36] <Hobbsee> abattoir: looks to be
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Replacing dbus is only the beginning, which is needed for dbus-glib, which is needed for powersave, which is needed for KPowersave
[10:37] <noipmixam> anyway I know who did started it ... but when I'd be fed up ... just watch ur ass
[10:37] <abattoir> Hobbsee: mostly gnomestuff :P
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> It's there in my KMenu in System...
[10:37] <Hobbsee> abattoir: hehe
[10:37] <abattoir> apart from powersave and hal ofcourse :)
[10:38] <abattoir> kubuntu-desktop depends on it though
[10:38] <abattoir> wonder why...
[10:38] <helpplz> how can I use ALSA wrapper for oss apps? I dont even know what to download
[10:39] <Hobbsee> abattoir: dbus and hal?  yeah, of course it does.
[10:40] <abattoir> hmm, kubuntu-desktop->hal->dbus i guess
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> So should I try keep or go with the guide you showed me, Hobbsee?
[10:41] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: whcih giude?
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[10:42] <user-land> abattoir, kbear has some interface problems ... :-) anyway do you know where i can disable passive transfers ?
[10:43] <abattoir> user-land: i havent used it extensively... maybe the manual could help?
[10:43] <hardw1re> morning
[10:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello Peter
[10:44] <hardw1re> =)
[10:44] <hardw1re> SANE patching is a pane in the ass
[10:44] <abattoir> ok, guys have to sleep, my brain is not working properly atm, MilhousePunkRock, hope you get it solved by the time i wake up...
[10:44] <abattoir> hardw1re: still doesnt work? :(
[10:44] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: also did you try alien?
[10:44] <hardw1re> well the patching of SANE isnt working right
[10:44] <MilhousePunkRock> If you are going for a week long hibernation, abattoir... ;-)
[10:44] <Hobbsee> abattoir: alien is evil
[10:45] <abattoir> Hobbsee: hehe, it has never failed me
[10:45] <hardw1re> im using the hp3900 patch but its not patching right, and then the configure, make, make install isnt working right
[10:45] <abattoir> Hobbsee: unless you use a Suse rpm
[10:45] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i can test the rpm for you if you want
[10:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: give me the link to the page, if you can
[10:46] <hardw1re> pastebin
[10:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'll make the deb and test it
[10:46] <hardw1re> !pastebin
[10:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:46] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: One moment...
[10:46] <hardw1re> i'll run the patch, configure, make and make install and paste into the pb
[10:46] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=124576&package_id=162439
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Back to backing up my /home
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> If I add the folder to keep, will it save hidden files too?
[10:50] <MeTa[AwAy] __> hi all
[10:51] <aegeanlinux> Hi [META]
[10:51] <[META] > i want to install liblircclient0 but it needs libc6 3.6.3-6 but only 3.6.3-0 installable
[10:51] <aegeanlinux> How's it going ?
[10:51] <aegeanlinux> dang/
[10:51] <aegeanlinux> * .
[10:51] <[META] > how can i workaround it?
[10:52] <[META] > i'm annoyed why i need infrared control libraries if i not need it ...
[10:52] <[META] > but i want install mplayers
[10:53] <aegeanlinux> build them yourself ?
[10:53] <[META] > how?
[10:53] <[META] > i'm not a linux guru
[10:53] <[META] > is there a howto?
[10:53] <[META] > or anything?
[10:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Looks like keep is backing up my /home to external hdd now
[10:53] <aegeanlinux> !compile
[10:54] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:54] <aegeanlinux> !make
[10:54] <[META] > no
[10:54] <[META] > i'm not thinked about this
[10:54] <[META] > i want it from repo
[10:54] <[META] > with the fireox plugins
[10:54] <aegeanlinux> kk
[10:55] <farous> [META] : looks like you need dist-upgrade do you have mixed repos
[10:55] <[META] > i have dapper
[10:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: If I screw the system, letting keep restore /home from the backup will get it back close to what it is now?
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> wb abattoir
[10:57] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: yeah, you'll need to install the packages you want again
[10:58] <yelek> anyone know how to get a theme manager for kde (for switching .kth files) help much appreciated!
[10:58] <farous> [META] : let me understand what you want again you want mplayer right
[10:58] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: thanks :)
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> I did not install much, I removed more from the default kubuntu
[10:58] <yelek> by any chance....
[10:59] <abattoir> brb
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> keep really needs a progress bar...
[11:00] <vontux> so, vlc player.... who has installed it on their ubuntu machines?
[11:01] <hardw1re> i got VLC media player
[11:01] <hardw1re> and Mplayer
[11:01] <vontux> hardw1re: via apt-get?
[11:01] <hardw1re> yeah
[11:01] <hardw1re> i think it was grabbed as a dependency
[11:01] <hardw1re> when i was trying to install my logitech webcam
[11:01] <vontux> what repository did you get it from in your sources.list file?
[11:02] <hardw1re> no idea
[11:02] <vontux> how long ago did you install it?
[11:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !kpowersave edgy
[11:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about kpowersave edgy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:02] <hardw1re> its in the universe repos
[11:02] <hardw1re> well i only install kubunutu on friday
[11:03] <vontux> hmmm...I think I have the same repositories list...but I can't seem to get it to work
[11:03] <farous> vontux: packages.ubuntu.com search for it there
[11:03] <Hobbsee> !info kpowersave edgy
[11:03] <ubotu> kpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3199 kB, installed size 4924 kB
[11:03] <MilhousePunkRock> !info kpowersave edgy
[11:03] <MilhousePunkRock> lol Hobbsee
[11:03] <farous> vontux: if you have main universe and multiverse repos enabled you will def have vlc
[11:03] <vontux> farous: ok, thx, I'll try that, if a repository server has gone down, how do I tell
[11:03] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: :P  it's the same as dapper, afaik, as i havent upgraded it yet
[11:04] <farous> why is it that the boot do not report which repos hold the package when using the find command
[11:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, seems so...
[11:04] <farous> vontux: have no idea
[11:04] <farous> vontux: only way i can do it through pinging
[11:06] <Healot> (P)acket (In)ternet (G)ropher 'ing?
[11:06] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: you have 2GB of hidden files? do you ever clean up your browser cache
[11:06] <MilhousePunkRock> farous: Not hidden files, the complete /home is that big...
[11:06] <farous> Healot: my way of making a verb out of it :)
[11:06] <farous> ah ok :)
[11:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Includes some downloads I wouldn't really need to back up though...
[11:07] <MilhousePunkRock> The Kubuntu6.06.iso for example...
[11:07] <yelek> anyone know how to get a theme manager for kde (for switching .kth files) help much appreciated!
[11:08] <MilhousePunkRock> yelek: I think you can do that in the settings --> appearance
[11:09] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: i have 3 GB documents folder which have only text files and some figs
[11:09] <farous> so i understand but for hidden files was just strange
[11:09] <hardw1re> wb abattoir
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> are you a professional writer, farous?
[11:09] <abattoir> hardw1re: hehe thanks :)
[11:09] <farous> kind of a univ prof lol
[11:09] <abattoir> konversation is screwing KDE.... :(
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> nice...
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> ^^ farous, not abattoir
[11:10] <farous> :)
[11:10] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe, i got it dont worry :)
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> what field, farous?
[11:10] <farous> mech eng
[11:11] <hardw1re> ok, im suppose to patch something with this hp3900.diff file... but the readme doesnt say wat to patch...
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Ugh...
[11:11] <yelek> no MilhousePunkRock, there is no theme selector, as far as I can tell...
[11:11] <vontux> vlc player, yep just had to uncomment the universe lines in my repository file
[11:11] <hardw1re> 4- Copy the patch into sane-backends-1.0.17 directory:
[11:11] <hardw1re> 5- Apply the patch:
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> I think the term "theme" is not really apropriate for KDE anyway, yelek... Since there are win decos, buttons, etc
[11:11] <hardw1re> i run the command and i get this : File to patch:
[11:12] <yelek> well the file is .kth, ktheme
[11:12] <farous> hardw1re: that is the source file you want to patch
[11:12] <hardw1re> in backend/ ?
[11:12] <MilhousePunkRock> what happens if you double click on it, yelek?
[11:13] <yelek> it doesnt open
[11:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Or does right-clicking give you the option "apply theme" maybe?
[11:13] <yelek> for instance in another distro I had a theme selector a part of the KDE control center
[11:13] <MilhousePunkRock> any progress on alien, abattoir?
[11:13] <farous> yelek: did you open kcontrol
[11:14] <yelek> yeh I dont see anything for switching themes though
[11:14] <farous> yelek: it is in the theme manager if i remember correctly
[11:15] <hardw1re> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18848
[11:16] <hardw1re> ah the gits, i know whats going wrong
[11:16] <yelek> ah i see now, its crashing for some reason
[11:16] <hardw1re> who ever wrote the patch was thinking that sane is at version 1.0.18 when it is infact at version 1.0.17
[11:16] <yelek> it says it cannot connect to X
[11:17] <farous> hardw1re: might be you are using the wrong patch
[11:17] <hardw1re> nah
[11:17] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: konversation crashed the last time i downloaded it, am downloading again
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there any way to see the progress of a keep action?
[11:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: keep action?
[11:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: oh, you mean the backup app...
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> yes, abattoir
[11:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: my brain has stopped working completely :(
[11:19] <hardw1re> ok, ive worked it out i think, its just me being a complete and utter tit and not getting the right sane pack lol
[11:19] <MilhousePunkRock> weren't you planning to go to bed earlier anyway, abattoir?
[11:19] <cotroler> EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?
[11:19] <hardw1re> he knew i was about ;p
[11:19] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: well, i'll get the deb done for you first :)
[11:19] <MilhousePunkRock> That's very nice of you indeed!
[11:19] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: if you are going to do regular backups i would recommend you have a look at rsync
[11:20] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ok, the deb's come out fine... now to see if it works :)
[11:20] <cotroler> Any help?????? EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?
[11:20] <MilhousePunkRock> farous: Well, I am still in the progress of setting everything up properly, once that is done, I will add "regular maintenance stuff" like that...
[11:21] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: installs fine... now to see if it runs ;)
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> The external hdd I use to back up my home now is usually connected to my desktop though, farous
[11:21] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: what is it supposed to do? go to the systemtray?
[11:21] <farous> ok take care all got to concentrate on wht is on my hand
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah
[11:22] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: you can do that if you have net connection
[11:22] <MilhousePunkRock> You too, farous, CU
[11:23] <MilhousePunkRock> is it there? should be an icon similar to klaptop (or was it kbattery), abattoir
[11:23] <RawSewage> is there a way to connect to a server a la putty using the Konsole
[11:23] <Hawkwind> RawSewage: ssh -l <user> <host>
[11:24] <hardw1re> how do i uninstall sane if i've installed it manually?
[11:24] <cotroler> Any help?????? EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?
[11:24] <RawSewage> Hawkwind, cool thx
[11:24] <Hawkwind> hardw1re: make uninstall if you compiled it, or delete all the directories/files it created
[11:24] <MilhousePunkRock> hardw1re: sudo apt-get remove sane ??
[11:24] <kosh> Hawkwind: you can also do ssh user@server
[11:24] <RawSewage> ok
[11:24] <Hawkwind> kosh: Yep.  Linux is all about choice :P
[11:25] <kosh> Hawkwind: just wanted to say that one incase you don't know
[11:25] <hardw1re> Package sane is not installed, so not removed
[11:25] <kosh> Hawkwind: the reason I like user@server  is that is standard for a lot of protocols
[11:25] <hardw1re> i installed sane manually and not through apt
[11:25] <Hawkwind> hardw1re: make uninstall if you compiled it, or delete all the directories/files it created
[11:27] <vontux> I have a number of partitons on my machine that I am not able to access, when I attempt to open them, they won't mount
[11:27] <vontux> here is the error message I get:
[11:27] <vontux> error: device /dev/sda3 is not removable
[11:27] <vontux> error: could not execute pmount
[11:28] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: it works for me...
[11:29] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i needed to install powersaved though, i presume you have it
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Is it OK that the keep backup has about 700 files less than the original /home folder?
[11:29] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: did you forget the hidden files, by any chance?
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Unless I removed it in the meantime, I should have it, yeah
[11:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: I checked "show hidden" in the keep options, that should have done it, or not?
[11:30] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: should have
[11:30] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure - based on that i cant see what the missing files are
[11:32] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: so...? you want the deb?
[11:33] <hardw1re> ok, is this anything to worry about? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18849
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Looking into the backup directory in Konq shows me all those .folders, so I guess it's fine...
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Can we send files here?
[11:33] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yes, DCC
[11:34] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: ah right
[11:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: you do understand that the risks right? :P
[11:34] <chemaja> which browser to use when konqueror doesn't render properly? i'm guessing you all use firefox, right?
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Isn't it less risky than replacing files very deeply in the system?
[11:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe, so take your pick :)
[11:34] <Hobbsee> hardw1re: it fully bailed on you, or did it keep compiling?
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Opera is probably worth a try too, chemaja
[11:35] <hardw1re> it compiled all the way through
[11:35] <hardw1re> i just ran it a second time so then i didnt have all the crap in between
[11:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: identified w/ nickserv?
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> yes abattoir
[11:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'll PM you
[11:35] <Hawkwind> hardw1re: I'm curious as to why you are compiling sane ?
[11:36] <hardw1re> i have a HP 4070 usb scanner
[11:36] <hardw1re> so sane has to be patched with the hp3900 patch to get it to work
[11:37] <larson9999> is there a esddsp package for ubuntu?
[11:37] <hardw1re> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18850
[11:38] <larson9999> or esd?
[11:39] <Hawkwind> !info esd
[11:39] <ubotu> Package esd does not exist in dapper
[11:39] <Hawkwind> !info esd edgy
[11:39] <ubotu> Package esd does not exist in edgy
[11:40] <hardw1re> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18852
[11:41] <larson9999> Hawkwind: up early or late?
[11:41] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Woke up for a few.  About to go back to bed as it's only 4:41am here
[11:41] <larson9999> same here
[11:46] <Healot> !find esd
[11:46] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-esd, kdesdk-doc-html, kdesdk-scripts, libesd-alsa0, libesd0-dev (and 18 others)
[11:47] <aegeanlinux> !find google
[11:47] <ubotu> Found: libnet-google-perl, riece-google
[11:48] <larson9999> healot and hawkwind the reason i asked is i found a sight saying to run something via esddsp program-name.  but i don't have esddsp installed.  and i found another site saying ubuntu uses esd by default.
[11:49] <Healot> alsa bd
[11:51] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: it works :D
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Nice, abattoir!
[11:51] <abattoir> got d/c though.. i guess sleep doesnt sustain your internet connection :(
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> That's perfectly normal, abattoir
[11:53] <[META] > how can i fix dependency problems?
[11:54] <Healot> with packages, or with compilation?
[11:54] <chemaja> eek what happened to my desktop icons? i press Save in the KDE Menu Editor, clicked away (instead of watching Saving Configuration thingo) and now they're gone...
[11:54] <Healot> with the repos, "sudo apt-get -f install"
[11:54] <chemaja> right click doesn't give a menu. is there some process i have to run that my have died?
[11:54] <[META] > Healot: i have screwed up the libc6
[11:55] <[META] > i need liblircclient , but it needs 3.6.3-6>= libc6
[11:55] <[META] > i installed libc 3.6.3-15 from debian org
[11:56] <[META] > it needs tzdata (dpkg said) i get tzdata fromd ebian.org, but it have an error while i insatll it, it said the dependencyes wrong (because the libc6 installation is not successfull)
[11:56] <[META] > what dpkg cmd repairs the dependency problems?
[11:59] <cotroler> EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) ANY HELP PLS?????????
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Cross your fingers everyone, I am trying to suspend with the new KPowersave now!
[11:59] <[META] > :)
[12:00] <hardw1re> well im off for now
[12:00] <Healot> MilfhousePunkRock, good luck
[12:00] <MilhousePunkRock> That needs some tweaking I guess... Won't let me with USB devices connected...
[12:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Damn, why can't ark open 7z files?
[12:03] <aegeanlinux> It can
[12:03] <aegeanlinux> install p7zip
[12:05] <Healot> why not install everything under the ice?
[12:05] <MilhousePunkRock> i did that last week and removed it again when I found out that it's only CLI and not GUI
[12:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Will it link into ark automagically?
[12:06] <Healot> ark will use all the available compression programs under your ice
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, it worked...
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> But I forgot to backup that one thing I was looking for back when I killed windows on this laptop... :-(
[12:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Is someone AOL user by accident?
[12:14] <MilhousePunkRock> same sh*t different version number...
[12:15] <MilhousePunkRock> How likely will a new kernel let me use my trackpoint and keyboard after resume from suspend to ram?
[12:15] <BazziR> is it really a kernel problem?
[12:15] <BazziR> tried reloading the module?
[12:15] <MilhousePunkRock> I wish I knew, BazziR
[12:16] <MilhousePunkRock> That's probably something I would have to add to sleep.sh?
[12:16] <BazziR> eventually
[12:17] <BazziR> but don't ask me further at kernel things, I'm well known for bricking linux installs ;)
[12:19] <MilhousePunkRock> What would the command for reloading the modules for the input devices be?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: modprobe -r module && modprobe module?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> sudo in front, of course
[12:19] <buz> sheesh is it normal that editing a page on the ubuntu wiki takes 30s without any response?
[12:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Let me try to locate the sleep.sh first
[12:21] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: sorry, dozed off... I see that it didnt work... however remember you werent using the latest powersaved... i dont know if using that would change it...but...
[12:22] <abattoir> ugh, where did the rest of the message go ? :-\
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> !java
[12:22] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:23] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: and yes, i am to your east.. what time did it show? 8/9 PM ?
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> What about adding "modprobe -r module" to the sleep.sh and "modprobe module" to resume.sh
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> 4.30something PM
[12:24] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: aah, ok, not sure, worth giving it a try
[12:25] <abattoir> ok, see you later, bye
[12:25] <MilhousePunkRock> CU abattoir, thx for your help again!
[12:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: You said sudo in front, but aren't those shell-scripts above root anyway?
[12:25] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: huh?
[12:30] <cotroler> i opened xorg.conf and it ws empty in recovery mode.....any help pls??
[12:32] <MilhousePunkRock> I wish I would understand that shell scripting language...
[12:32] <larson9999> MilhousePunkRock: read a tutorial.  not hard at all
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> cotroler: do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:33] <mikalsen> how to list up all servers in Konversation? all noob on kubuntu
[12:34] <cotroler> tnx MilhousePunkRock
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> larson9999: You get how that works? Because maybe than you could hava a look at the acpi scripts and tell me where to put in the apropriate command to resume mouse and keyboard
[12:36] <larson9999> MilhousePunkRock: can't now.  off to work
[12:36] <Stardog> how to list up all servers in Konversation? all noob on kubuntu
[12:36] <omeow> Stardog, where do you expect that list to be?
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Stardog: F2
[12:37] <omeow> Yes, but I think he's looking for a list of 	all	 IRC servers. And that list exists nowhere, as far as I know.
[12:38] <omeow> You can only have predefined servers in the server list.
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Google might be very helpful, as in most cases
[12:38] <omeow> Konversation comes with only one by default I think.
[12:38] <omeow> That's one that connects to this server.
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Stardog: Are you sure you are looking for servers, or is it channels?
[12:39] <omeow> The channel list is Window => Channel list for $server (F5)
[12:39] <Stardog> omeow:  well, I'm only familiar to Xchat, and the serverlist (like quakenet etc) automaticly opens at startup. When i start up konversation, i have to add servers manually in,(and as a noob i cant do that)
[12:40] <omeow> Stardog, why can't you add a server?
[12:40] <Stardog> omeow: cause i dont know how to..... and the only server i've got on my list is freenode
[12:40] <omeow> Click New => Type a name (ie. Quakenet) add a server (ie. irc.quakenet.org) and add a channel (ie. #leethax0rs)
[12:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Is it possible that it does not _unload_ the modules when going to sleep, therefor reloading them on resume doesn't work?
[12:41] <omeow> You can read can't you?
[12:41] <omeow> :)
[12:41] <omeow> If you're still stuck, press F1
[12:42] <MilhousePunkRock> shouldn't that channel be called #1337|-|4X0|25 omeow? ;-)
[12:42] <omeow> No.
[12:44] <Ace2005_> It says the Nick Ace2005 is in use because i was logged in and i reset my router so how do i tell freenode that i am Ace2005, it won't let me change my nick
[12:44] <Ace2005_> Ace2005:  >:
[12:45] <Ace2005_> ping
[12:45] <ubuntu> pong
[12:45] <omeow> Did you figure it out, Stardog?
[12:45] <Stardog> omeow: yeah... thx
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Ace2005: If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[12:46] <Ace2005_> MilhousePunkRock: as you can see there are two Ace2005s in the list, both being me, but Ace2005 is me before i reset my router and its still here
[12:46] <Jh00> hmmm just testing kubuntu... nice package! I liked it more than ubuntu...
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, even better, isnt it, Ace2006
[12:47] <zblach> Ace2006: happy new year
[12:47] <Ace2006> zblach: thanks
[12:47] <zblach> ...
[12:47] <Ace2007> I want to get it for next year
[12:48] <omeow> Stardog, feel free to ask anything else and I'll try to answer best I can. ;)
[12:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Who is familiar with those ACPI scripts?
[12:52] <Stardog> omeow: kk :)
[12:52] <Ace> can someone tell me which characters are accepted in nicks, i keep getting [Nick]  Erroneous Nickname
[12:53] <Jh00> anyone from Brazil? I need help setting up my keyboard layout
[12:54] <Ace> Yay i'm gone
[12:57] <Jazon_lap> hi everyone
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> What are things written in green and starting with a $ in .sh scripts?
[12:57] <Jazon_lap> anyone be able to help me activate powermanagement on my laptop? it is non-existent in kde, but is there in gnome
[12:57] <Jazon_lap> :s
[12:58] <Ace2008> Hi how do i get konversation to register me when i connect to freenode?
[12:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Stand in line, Jazon_lap... I am having huge trouble with it too!
[12:58] <Jazon_lap> lol
[12:58] <Jazon_lap> i know it works with kde because it was working with kanotix......
[12:58] <MilhousePunkRock> APM or ACPI?
[12:58] <Jh00> Ace: press F8
[12:59] <Jack12> hi
[12:59] <Ace2008> Jh00: Do i just type the password there?
[12:59] <Jack12> i want to install a superkaramba theme but when i download it just opens the binary file with kate
[12:59] <Ace2008> Jh00: and what goes in the service box?
[12:59] <Jack12> saving it would result in a corrupt file
[01:00] <Jack12> how do i download that liquid qeather theme?
[01:00] <Jazon_lap> MilhousePunkRock: acpi (afaik)
[01:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Jack12: You need superkaramba first
[01:00] <Jh00> right click on the text "Service" and read whats there... I cant paste it
i have it latest version
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Jazon_lap: It's kinda buggy... I am already getting gray hair over it
[01:01] <Jazon_lap> its not working period here......
[01:01] <Jazon_lap> not an option at all...
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> do you have powersaved?
powersaved?
[01:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !powersaved
[01:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about powersaved - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !info powersaved
[01:02] <ubotu> powersaved: power management daemon. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.12.15-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 376 kB, installed size 1852 kB
[01:03] <MilhousePunkRock> do "sudo apt-get install powersaved"
[01:03] <Ace2005> Ace2008: On no not again
[01:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there?
[01:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can explain me why the mount table tells me that i have rw privileges but i can't modify the name of the folder in it?
[01:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> here an example: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/opaOFi50.html
[01:06] <Ace1> test
[01:07] <mute> eooe
[01:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[01:07] <mute> I have a problem with the keybord
[01:07] <mute> that it doesnt work
[01:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mute: use #test
[01:08] <mute> and it only works again when I delete the folder .kde in the home directory
[01:08] <taavi> hi
[01:08] <taavi> i have a problem
[01:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mute: check the shortcuts
[01:09] <aegeanlinux> So do I, but I keep it secret ;)
[01:09] <Jazon_lap> Device power management has been disabled by administrator.
[01:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> maybe you gave some kde shortcuts missetted
[01:09] <Jazon_lap> how do i ENable it??????
[01:09] <taavi> i cant watch avi files...
[01:10] <aegeanlinux> what type of AVI files? Uncompressed ones, DivX ones, XviD ones?
[01:10] <taavi> any
[01:11] <mariux> get mplayer and w32codecs for a special resp.
[01:11] <taavi> done
[01:11] <Healot> !mp3
[01:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:11] <taavi> only avidemux shows them
[01:11] <mariux> mplayer doesnt?
[01:11] <taavi> no
[01:11] <taavi> only sound
[01:12] <taavi> video is black screen
[01:12] <mute> you need the decoder for that video
[01:12] <taavi> okei...
[01:12] <taavi> how do i get xvid decoder
[01:13] <mariux> i thought it was included in w32codecs
[01:13] <mute> with the command file will said the codec you have
[01:13] <mute> or with tcprobe - i
[01:13] <mute> if you have transcode tools
[01:13] <taavi> i try...
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> What was the command to display Kernel Number, KDE Version etc. again?
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Sysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 732 MHz (1466 bogomips), , RAM: 247/249MB, 81 proc's, 6.23h up
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Can I run a 2.6.17 patch against the 2.6.15 kernel?
[01:16] <Healot> yes, with incremental patch
[01:18] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: it will probably not apply cleanly.
[01:18] <MilhousePunkRock> I am looking at suspend2 right now.. Their lates release is: 2.2.7 for 2.6.17
[01:18] <MilhousePunkRock> So I better take the latest for 2.6.15?
[01:18] <uniq> yes.
[01:19] <MilhousePunkRock> And I will probably have to do it again everytime the Kernel gets upgraded?
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> uniq: You know that you just volunteered to help me apply the patch, do you?
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Or is it just the regular configure make make install routine?
[01:23] <berkes> hello, I just tried the kde/kcontrol samba administration tool, but that seems to have a bug in kubuntu.
[01:23] <berkes> anyone else with the problem taht he/she cannot add users?
[01:24] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: i bet there are some guide on the page where you downloaded the patch. I do not have time to help you right now, sorry.
[01:27] <MetaMorfoziS> !java
[01:27] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Do I need to be scared to apply a kernel patch?
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> If so, I'd rather not...
[01:29] <Tm_T> ?
[01:29] <Healot> ye afraid, be very afraid, MilfhousePunkRock
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> If it goes wrong, I can still use the recovery option from GRUB, right?
[01:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Thanks for discouraging me, Healot
[01:30] <Healot> you asked for it :-
[01:31] <MilhousePunkRock> So did you forget the /sarcasm tag? Or is it really something a noob better keeps his hands off?
[01:32] <cotroler> ppl i got this problem any 1 had the same? http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8010/snapshot1io3.png
[01:32] <aegeanlinux> cotroler: Is that your screen, or an image error ?
[01:32] <cotroler> my screen
[01:32] <aegeanlinux> cotroler: that's interesting ;)
[01:32] <cotroler> it gets like thaat
[01:32] <aegeanlinux> No, I don't really get that.
[01:33] <gatekeeper> cotroler: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> The HowTo for Suspend2 says I need to compile my kernel prior to patching... Is that necessary?
[01:35] <cotroler> tnx gatekeeper
[01:35] <cotroler> but i just installed linux now
[01:36] <gatekeeper> cotroler: hmmm that should not happen, only time I had that problem was with elivecd
[01:37] <cotroler> i reinstalled linux (on a different cd)
[01:37] <gatekeeper> cotroler: this may be usefull (or may be not) sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall
[01:37] <cotroler> tnx
[01:38] <gatekeeper> cotroler: did you test the cd?
[01:39] <gatekeeper> cotroler: latest dapper cd has an option to test that the cd is ok
[01:39] <cotroler> i have 5.10 version
[01:42] <Jazon_lap> Sysinfo for 'arkygeek-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor         1.40GHz at 1396 MHz (2797 bogomips), HD: 15/36GB, RAM: 1236/1256MB, 118 proc's, 4.6d up
[01:42] <gatekeeper> cotroler: that is breezy, latest is dapper 6.06
[01:42] <cotroler> yes but i need to solve this image problem first i think
[01:43] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux, gatekeeper, Hobbsee and everyone else: The Suspend2 HowTo says I need to compile the kernel prior to patching, is that really necessary?
[01:43] <gatekeeper> cotroler: probable true :-)
[01:43] <cotroler> :/
[01:44] <cotroler> :'(
[01:45] <gatekeeper> cotroler: you could download the dapper cd which is also a livecd, if it fires up ok, and X is alright then it should install ok
[01:45] <supernix>  Hi does anyone know much about modems ?
[01:45] <gatekeeper> cotroler: might be a better plan
[01:45] <mariux__> peope still use those? :)
[01:45] <cotroler> can i do anything else apart that?
[01:46] <gatekeeper> MilhousePunkRock: never done it, but if that is what the advice is, I would follow it
[01:47] <gatekeeper> cotroler: apart from trying to reconfigure X using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg nothing comes to mind
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Looks like I got myself a task for tomorrow...
[01:48] <gatekeeper> cotroler: have you got broadband?
[01:50] <gatekeeper> MilhousePunkRock: why are you trying to recompile the kernel?
[01:51] <MilhousePunkRock> I am having trouble with Suspending/Resuming... Google brought me to "Suspend2"
[01:51] <_cotroler> bk sry got disconnected
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> It seems to be a kernel patch, to apply it I need to recompile... As far as I understand it, which is not much anyway...
[01:53] <r4z\Jan> i've a problem with my irda device "unable to allocate dma=3" i found in /proc/dma that 3 is already used by parport0 how can i change dma's ?
[01:56] <user-land> Hello again. I tried to add a few old harddisks to my computer now, but grub threw errors 15 and 17 consistently.
[01:57] <user-land> so i removed the other harddisks, but now my dual monitor setup does not work anymore, instead i am stuck with 1024x800 instead of 1200 pixel ...
[01:58] <user-land> how can i check if i am still using the nvidia driver and how can i reenable dual head ?
[02:00] <MilhousePunkRock> I might be lucky and someone else created a kubuntu dapper kernel with suspend2 in it already...
[02:06] <cotroler> bk...sry got disconneced
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Are the kernels the same for ubuntu and kubuntu?
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> suspend2 kubuntu
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> opps
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> oops*
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> http://www.ucc.asn.au/~dagobah/ubuntu-suspend2/dapper/
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Seems like there are various kernels with Suspend2 in them there...
[02:17] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Yes, its necessary to compile kernel for Suspend2
[02:17] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Soz about the lateness, watching the bill ;)
[02:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx, aegeanlinux... Seems I found a site that has ubuntu-kernels with suspend to in them...
[02:18] <MilhousePunkRock> http://www.ucc.asn.au/~dagobah/ubuntu-suspend2/dapper/
[02:18] <aegeanlinux> KK.
[02:18] <aegeanlinux> Only looking through the lines that were red sozzy ; )
[02:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it safe to try one of them (the apropriate one, of course)
[02:19] <aegeanlinux> I can't say that for sure
[02:19] <aegeanlinux> do you trust the source 100%
[02:19] <aegeanlinux> especially for a kernel
[02:20] <MilhousePunkRock> How does this whole kernel thing work anyway, since I have never recompiled one so far, it won't touch KDE etc, will it?
[02:20] <Healot> no, it shall not
[02:20] <aegeanlinux> No, it will not. The kernel is the bit of Linux that does memory, and all the processes and the multi tasking
[02:20] <aegeanlinux> basicly, with out the Kernel, there would be no bash running, or KDE ;)
[02:21] <aegeanlinux> The name "Linux" basically means "The Kernel" (www.kernel.org_
[02:21] <aegeanlinux> * www.kernel.org
[02:21] <aegeanlinux> (not litrally though ;) )
[02:21] <Healot> gro.lenrek.www
[02:23] <user-land> !nvidia
[02:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:24] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, this page is a little clearer I guess: http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/dapper-kernels/
[02:24] <MilhousePunkRock> I believe this guy did all the work I was going to do myself and compiled a vanilla dapper kernel and patched suspend2 in it...
[02:24] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: What processor do you have?
[02:24] <aegeanlinux> Intel P4 ? Celeron ? Celeron D ?
[02:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Neither of those
[02:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Sysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 1132 MHz (2266 bogomips), , RAM: 247/249MB, 77 proc's, 7.33h up
[02:25] <aegeanlinux> KK, that fits the specs too.
[02:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh dear, it looks like I really need to upgrade my RAM...
[02:26] <aegeanlinux> Here's the go, the site has a .au address, you need to be reg'd with the Aus. GovT to get one, so you can always track this dude down if it stuffs up your PC ;)
[02:26] <aegeanlinux> Add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[02:26] <aegeanlinux>     deb http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/ubuntu-suspend2 dapper/
[02:26] <aegeanlinux> But as always, it is at your own risj
[02:26] <aegeanlinux> *risj
[02:26] <aegeanlinux> *risk
[02:26] <MilhousePunkRock> will sudo apt-get update prompt me which kernel I want?
[02:26] <gatekeeper> MilhousePunkRock: the kernel is modularised these days, so a full recompile should not be necessary, should be a case of finding the right module and doing any necessary configuring as the person in that url has
[02:27] <aegeanlinux> No, but it will install the right kernel
[02:27] <aegeanlinux> http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/dapper-kernels/ <-- read instructions
[02:27] <MilhousePunkRock> What if I rather want the 686 kernel though, my CPU is a 686-class CPU, isn't it?
[02:27] <aegeanlinux> Yes, It is a p3
[02:28] <aegeanlinux> http://www.aegeanlinux.be/index.php?n=Main.WhatIsAegeanLinux <-- list of 686 Processors
[02:28] <MilhousePunkRock> gatekeeper: I am aware of that, but Suspend2 only comes as a kernel patch
[02:28] <aegeanlinux> (thats not an advertisment ;) )
[02:29] <MilhousePunkRock> .be aegeanlinux? We're neighbours, kind of...
[02:29] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Don't rip it.
[02:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Do I get this right, aegeanlinux? You created your own distro?
[02:31] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Lets talk about that in #aegeanlinux . This convo has been held to many times in this room :P
[02:33] <garar> hi
[02:33] <user-land> does easykubuntu still exist ?
[02:34] <emonkeylap> user-land, look for Automatik
[02:35] <aegeanlinux> G;day garar
[02:36] <garar> hmm how can I change color of task bar items highlight? When I hover mouse over program in taskbar it looks awfull gray, where can I change it?
[02:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Back to that "custom" kernel... Can it break the hardware?
[02:55] <r4z\Jan> i've irda0 as interface and it works, but i want to use it as a serial device: /dev/ttyS1 how to do this?
[03:08] <aegeanlinux> I am going to bed soon y'all! Have a good sleep / Good day
[03:08] <pickledbushman> http://fun.newz.co.za/woody.html
[03:09] <Botkiller> anyone know how I get ./ to work?
[03:09] <aegeanlinux> ./ ?
[03:09] <fannagoganna> did you make sure that the file you're trying to run has executable permission?
[03:10] <Botkiller> yeah, as in ./steam for example, I get the error that there is no such file or dir
[03:10] <Botkiller> yep
[03:10] <Botkiller> it is in the same dir, it has chmod +x on it, but still :/
[03:10] <fannagoganna> what's the output of ls -l in the directory steam is located?
[03:10] <Botkiller> total 9276
[03:10] <Botkiller> drwxr-xr-x 2 mike mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:20 hlds
[03:10] <Botkiller> -rwxr-xr-x 1 mike mike 7506846 2004-09-22 07:54 steam
[03:10] <Botkiller> -rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike 1962970 2004-09-22 07:55 steam.tar.gz
[03:10] <Botkiller> drwxr-xr-x 2 mike mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:40 ventrilo
[03:11] <fannagoganna> try exec steam
[03:11] <fannagoganna> that is, "exec steam"
[03:11] <Botkiller> mike@dedi107:~$ exec steam
[03:11] <Botkiller> -bash: exec: steam: not found
[03:11] <Botkiller> with the "?
[03:12] <fannagoganna> hmm, this is very very very strange
[03:12] <fannagoganna> do you have any other shells beside bash that you can run?
[03:12] <fannagoganna> say tcsh?
[03:12] <Botkiller> dunno, only have this server for about 1.5 hours or so :P
[03:12] <Botkiller> how do I run other shell?
[03:12] <fannagoganna> there might be a command called "chsh"
[03:13] <fannagoganna> so are you logged in remotely to a server that has this steam application?
[03:13] <Botkiller> mike@dedi107:~$ chsh
[03:13] <Botkiller> Password:
[03:13] <Botkiller> Changing the login shell for mike
[03:13] <Botkiller> Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
[03:13] <Botkiller>         Login Shell [/bin/bash] :
[03:13] <fannagoganna> try /bin/tcsh
[03:13] <Botkiller> k
[03:13] <fannagoganna> and then see if your other commands work
[03:14] <DeadS0ul> a c shell user =O
[03:14] <Botkiller> /bin/tcsh is an invalid shell.
[03:14] <DeadS0ul> what bout ksh?
[03:14] <fannagoganna> ok try that
[03:14] <Botkiller> k mom
[03:14] <fannagoganna> I haven't used chsh in a while so I don't know how to get a list of available shells
[03:14] <Botkiller> also invalid
[03:15] <DeadS0ul> oh dear =(
[03:15] <Botkiller> indeed :S
[03:15] <fannagoganna> so have you logged into a remote machine that has this steam executable?
[03:16] <Botkiller> yes
[03:16] <fannagoganna> I want to try something -- is it possible for you to send me the "steam" executable?
[03:16] <Botkiller> my own dedicated server that I won a week ago
[03:16] <fannagoganna> I want to test if there's a problem with your bash shell
[03:16] <Botkiller> don't have ftp on it yet
[03:16] <Botkiller> well I do know it works at my red hat box next to me
[03:16] <fannagoganna> you mean your IRC client doesn't support file sending and receiving?
[03:17] <Botkiller> let me look for it, mom
[03:17] <fannagoganna> who's mom?
[03:17] <Botkiller> moment
[03:17] <fannagoganna> who is "mom"?
[03:17] <fannagoganna> oh ok
[03:17] <Botkiller> sorry normal expression in dutch :P
[03:17] <fannagoganna> ah you're in the netherlands?
[03:17] <Botkiller> yup
[03:17] <fannagoganna> I went on vacation there a few weeks ago :)
[03:18] <Botkiller> nice, where? :)
[03:18] <fannagoganna> Amsterdam :-D
[03:18] <v3ctor> Germany
[03:19] <Botkiller> http://japje.nl/steam/steam.tar.gz
[03:19] <fannagoganna> I want you to try something, see if you can run sh
[03:19] <Botkiller> I got it from there
[03:19] <Botkiller> just sh?
[03:19] <fannagoganna> oh you got it to work?
[03:19] <Botkiller> no
[03:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Who would do vacation in Germany if not forced to at gun point?
[03:19] <Botkiller> that's the steam file
[03:20] <Botkiller> sh gives the same problem
[03:20] <fannagoganna> hmm, this is very very very weird
[03:20] <Botkiller> true
[03:20] <fannagoganna> unless I can log in, I'm fresh out of ideas
[03:20] <fannagoganna> I've never seen anything like this
[03:20] <Botkiller> nor did I
[03:20] <fannagoganna> b/c it works on my kubuntu machine
[03:21] <Botkiller> could it be a problem with the command ./ itself?
[03:21] <Botkiller> that it isn't recognized?
[03:21] <fannagoganna> I don't think so, but I don't know for sure
[03:21] <fannagoganna> the thing is, the "./" is integrated into bash
[03:21] <v3ctor> ls ./steam
[03:22] <fannagoganna> what's the output from that?
[03:22] <Botkiller> mike@dedi107:~$ ls ./steam
[03:22] <Botkiller> ./steam
[03:22] <v3ctor> not a  problem with ./
[03:22] <sam--> hi, i need some assistance with setting up a usb wireless device
[03:22] <v3ctor> what does the first line of steam say?
[03:23] <Botkiller> of the file itself? like in vi?
[03:23] <sam--> is there a tool like wlassistant for wpa ?
[03:23] <v3ctor> nvm
[03:23] <v3ctor> it's binary
[03:23] <Botkiller> yup
[03:24] <v3ctor> try installing a new shell and see if it is a bash problem
[03:27] <xylus> excuse me but im trying to burn an iso dvd with k3b on the kubuntu system and it says unable to change wright speed error
[03:27] <MukiEX> Anyone know of a good Cloning/Ghosting/Backup program?
[03:27] <xylus> any idea how to fix this problem? because i tryed changeing the write speed
[03:27] <v3ctor> or you could try dash...that should be installed
[03:27] <fannagoganna> rsync :)
[03:28] <xylus> and i stil get it
[03:28] <xylus> dash?
[03:28] <xylus> i dont see it listed under programs
[03:28] <v3ctor> xylus: not you
[03:28] <xylus> oh sorry
[03:28] <xylus> lol
[03:28] <MukiEX> Something perfect would be a prob that backs up everything but the /home folder (keeps the directory stucture for it tho), and turns the installation into an installER, complete with a partitioning prog.
[03:28] <MukiEX> *prog
[03:29] <xylus> can noone help me out?
[03:29] <v3ctor> MukiEX: there is a ghost for linux. I saw it on sourceforge once
[03:29] <MukiEX> v3ctor : Thanks, but I worry that program hasn't seen an update in years =(
[03:30] <v3ctor> maybe they got it right years ago ;)
[03:30] <v3ctor> or maybe not
[03:30] <Botkiller> dash isn't installed either
[03:31] <v3ctor> hmm..i have dash and i didn't install it. Thought it might be there
[03:31] <MukiEX> I wish it was in the repository ;)
[03:31] <fannagoganna> by dash, do you mean the Debian Almquist Shell?
[03:31] <xylus> linux is all about these repositorys heh? are those kinda like the program files of windows?
[03:31] <v3ctor> fannagoganna: yes
[03:31] <Botkiller> I guess
[03:32] <fannagoganna> hmm, when I run "apt-cache search dash," it seems to exist
[03:32] <v3ctor> sudo aptitude install dash
[03:32] <xylus> im burning a coppy of debian now from the kubuntu system am i makeing a good choice?
[03:32] <xylus> it seems to me kubuntu is hmmm glitchey
[03:33] <xylus> mostley because its a small system
[03:33] <Botkiller> installing dash...
[03:33] <MukiEX> anyone use kbfx?
[03:33] <xylus> mukiex isent kbfx soemthing to do with superkarumba?
[03:33] <v3ctor> you are making *a* choice. good vs.bad will be determined wen you decide if it is what you want/need
[03:33] <MukiEX> Nah, it doesn't require superkaramba, xylus. Not a fan of that prog, presonally ^_^
[03:33] <v3ctor> when*
[03:33] <xylus> well my problem is this v3ctor
[03:34] <MukiEX> It's just an aplet.
[03:34] <xylus> kubuntu is dead for installing source and its also glitchey and just not well built
[03:34] <xylus> so im trying a full distro such as debian
[03:34] <Botkiller> ok, I have dash loaded, and when I run ./steam I get -bash: ./steam: No such file or directory
[03:34] <Botkiller> :S
[03:34] <v3ctor> Botkiller: change to dash
[03:34] <Botkiller> i did chsh, password and than /bin/dash
[03:35] <xylus> muki why dont u like superkarumba?
[03:35] <v3ctor> not like that
[03:35] <v3ctor> just run dash
[03:35] <xylus> i am going to try and get that prog once i get deb up and running
[03:35] <xylus> i just like the litle applets on yr desktop that display system information
[03:35] <xylus> in transparent backround
[03:35] <xylus> i think its pimped i dont know much about super and havent installed it once yet but im looking forward to trying it
[03:36] <Botkiller> ./dash: ./steam: not found
[03:36] <v3ctor> dash && ./steam
[03:36] <Botkiller> I'm starting to wish I had fedora on it :/
[03:36] <Botkiller> k
[03:37] <fannagoganna> or sorry :(
[03:37] <Botkiller> mike@dedi107:~$ dash && ./steam
[03:37] <Botkiller> $
[03:37] <v3ctor> well  you are in dash now ;)
[03:37] <v3ctor> try ./steam
[03:37] <Botkiller> dash: ./steam: not found
[03:38] <Botkiller> and I'm in the right dir
[03:38] <v3ctor> you sure?
[03:38] <Botkiller> $ ls -g
[03:38] <Botkiller> total 9276
[03:38] <Botkiller> drwxr-xr-x 2 mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:20 hlds
[03:38] <Botkiller> -rwxr-xr-x 1 mike 7506846 2004-09-22 07:54 steam
[03:38] <Botkiller> -rw-r--r-- 1 mike 1962970 2004-09-22 07:55 steam.tar.gz
[03:38] <Botkiller> drwxr-xr-x 2 mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:40 ventrilo
[03:38] <Botkiller> yup
[03:38] <v3ctor> home dir?
[03:38] <fannagoganna> btw, how about other programs, do they work?
[03:38] <fannagoganna> like go to /usr/bin
[03:38] <fannagoganna> then run "./ls"
[03:39] <fannagoganna> see if that works
[03:39] <scott__> hey, can anyone help me with my ipod? it seems that all my tracks have gone 'missing' on them, in amarok they come up under the folder 'invisible' yet in rythmbox i can play them, gtkpod cant see themeither (all though md5 hashes all of them), how can i get them to all show up again in my ipod?3
[03:39] <Botkiller> $ cd /usr/bin
[03:39] <Botkiller> $ ./ls
[03:39] <Botkiller> dash: ./ls: not found
[03:39] <v3ctor> ls is ont a good test
[03:40] <Botkiller> what is?
[03:40] <Botkiller> I tried it on ventrilo, same problem
[03:40] <v3ctor> ./du
[03:40] <Botkiller> $ ./du
[03:40] <Botkiller> dash: dash:: not found
[03:40] <Botkiller> :S
[03:40] <Botkiller> and yes, have the file :P
[03:40] <v3ctor> something is broken
[03:41] <Botkiller> I'm starting to get confinced it's something with running execs :S
[03:41] <cristiano> hi all
[03:41] <v3ctor> Botkiller: no, it is something with running with ./
[03:41] <v3ctor> you succesfuly ran dash ;)
[03:42] <Botkiller> :P
[03:42] <v3ctor> is mike you username?
[03:42] <Botkiller> well, next step is finding a fix for this problem i guess ^^
[03:42] <Botkiller> yes
[03:42] <v3ctor> try running with full path
[03:42] <v3ctor>  /home/mike/steam
[03:42] <cristiano> i have a directory with some ,zip files which i wanna to be extracted, is it possible to let unzip extract all the .zip files at the same time instead then one by one? i have tried with "unzip [path] /*" but it says "zip file not matched"
[03:42] <Botkiller> dash: ./home/mike/steam: not found
[03:43] <v3ctor> or what ever the location is
[03:43] <v3ctor> no ./
[03:43] <Botkiller> just /home/mike/steam?
[03:43] <v3ctor> yes...if that is where it is located
[03:43] <fannagoganna> yeah, that's a good idea, might work
[03:43] <Botkiller> dash: /home/mike/steam: not found
[03:43] <Botkiller> no it doesn't :P
[03:43] <v3ctor> is that the location of steam?
[03:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone, again...
[03:43] <Botkiller> yup
[03:43] <cristiano> any clues for me?
[03:44] <fannagoganna> btw, Botkiller, are you running kubuntu on this machine, and if so do you have root access to it?
[03:44] <Botkiller> at least : the file steam is in /home/mike
[03:44] <Botkiller> I have root access to it
[03:44] <Botkiller> not sure what my provider installed on it, I know it is some kind of ubuntu 64bit
[03:45] <fannagoganna> run "apt-cache search steam"
[03:45] <Botkiller> k
[03:45] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I manually install a kernel? I added a repo to get a suspend enabled kernel, but the one I got seems to be without restricted modules, therefor my WiFi card won't work
[03:45] <fannagoganna> what's the output there?
[03:45] <hephooey> My kubuntu installation hang at "choose mirror", when I don't have an internet access
[03:45] <Agios> cristiano: try unzip path/*.zip  and if that doesn't work I'll tell you another way
[03:45] <hephooey> is that a known bug?
[03:45] <cristiano> Agios it didn't work, already tried
[03:45] <cristiano> it says "zip file not matched" Agios
[03:45] <Botkiller> fannagoganna : nothing
[03:46] <Botkiller> root@dedi107:~# apt-cache search steam
[03:46] <Botkiller> root@dedi107:~#
[03:46] <hephooey> Is there a way to skip this in ubiquity?
[03:47] <Agios> cristiano: type this then:  for a in `/bin/ls path/*.zip ; do unzip path/$a; done
[03:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Besides that, is KDE 3.5.3 in the repos now? I get lot of updates here...
[03:48] <fannagoganna> Botkiller are you running dapper?
[03:48] <fannagoganna> or breezy?
[03:48] <cristiano> Agios:  the second "path" which path is?
[03:48] <Botkiller> never heard of them
[03:48] <Agios> cristiano: type this then:  for a in `/bin/ls path/*.zip`'; do unzip path/$a; done
[03:48] <fannagoganna> what does your /etc/apt/sources.list file look like?
[03:48] <xylus> hey does anyone have a good applet for superkarumba?
[03:48] <Agios> path is the same path your zip files are in
[03:49] <fannagoganna> run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and what is the output?
[03:49] <cristiano> Agios: ok i'll try and let u know :)
[03:49] <Botkiller> oops :P
[03:49] <MilhousePunkRock> xylus: Superdoku, in case you like the sudoku puzzle...
[03:50] <Botkiller> sending fannagoganna
[03:50] <xylus> hehe thanks but what im looking for is a applet that displays system information in a styleish backround on the desktop
[03:50] <xylus> i belive someone told me to get a app for superkarumba
[03:51] <scott__> anyone know how i can recompile/rewrite my ipod itunes database? as some of my files have gone missing on my ipod but are visible to rythmbox (but not amarok or gtkpod)
[03:51] <Botkiller> fannagoganna : you see my dcc request?
[03:51] <fannagoganna> sorry no :(
[03:51] <fannagoganna> I'm using gaim, let me try xchat and see if you can send the file again to me
[03:52] <Botkiller> k
[03:52] <xylus> hey guys whats newer kubuntu or the latest stable version of debian
[03:52] <fannagoganna> hi Botkiller
[03:52] <fannagoganna> could you send the file over to me?
[03:52] <Botkiller> hi fannagoganna
[03:53] <Botkiller> sending
[03:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> where i can ask some information about udev-ipod configuration? #udev doesn't exists!!
[03:53] <Botkiller> you getting it?
[03:54] <fannagoganna> sorry, don't know why but no
[03:54] <fannagoganna> could you email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:55] <fannagoganna> if possible?
[03:55] <cristiano> Agios: it appeared ">" when i execute the command u gave
[03:55] <Botkiller> you got google messenger?
[03:55] <fannagoganna> yup that i have
[03:56] <fannagoganna> ok i see you there
[03:57] <cristiano> Agios: what is wrong?
[04:00] <Agios> paste exactly what you typed
[04:03] <cristiano> Agios maybe i found an error in what u wrote, there is a strange simbol near the " ' " in ur statement, just before " ; " could be this?
[04:04] <Agios> probably
[04:05] <cristiano> ok i try
[04:08] <cristiano> damn! Agios i think the prob is in the way i write down the path!!! because the path is something like "dsf earth nav/earth nav data" with spaces, it doesn't know how to interpret that spaces in the path
[04:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can explain me why when kmailservice is started.. tons of konqueror windows start popping up one after the other!?!
[04:09] <Agios> cristiano: yes. you need 'path with spaces'
[04:09] <cristiano> Agios the path i need is "/home/cristiano/xinst/europe/all/resources/default scenery/dsf 820 earth/earth nav data/+30+010" and as u can see there are a lot of spaces, and if i put this it gives me an error
[04:09] <cristiano> how to correct this?
[04:10] <dr_willis> single quotes around the whole path line. perhaps.
[04:10] <Azzco> is it okay if I ask a game install oriented question?
[04:10] <cristiano> dr_willis: what do u mean?
[04:11] <dr_willis> 'path/to/the big thing'
[04:11] <cristiano> dr_willis: i'm sorry but i'm not understing how to write it right :( can u give me an example with the path above pls?
[04:11] <Agios> cristiano: that's probably why unzip didn't work in the first place
[04:12] <dr_willis> '/home/cristiano/xinst/europe/all/resources/default scenery/dsf'
[04:12] <Agios> unzip '/home/cristiano/xinst/europe/all/resources/default scenery/dsf 820 earth/earth nav data/+30+010/*'
[04:12] <cristiano> ok guys i try this way and let u know
[04:12] <dr_willis> you got + chars in the path as well?
[04:13] <Tintin> What tool is the best to manage services in /etc/init.d/ ?
[04:13] <cristiano> ok it works this way!!!! many thx :D
[04:13] <dr_willis> using wildcards that way - may not work with unzip - because of how it handles filenames./wildcards
[04:13] <dr_willis> You can only have so long a command line.
[04:14] <uniq> tintin: 'ksysv' maybe.. don't use it myself. (i use 'update-rc.d' from konsole).
[04:14] <Agios> Tintin: you can use the sysv init editor under system settings or install sysv-rc-conf for a command line tool
[04:16] <Azzco> I've got an error when trying to launch unreal tournament...it only says Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap]  and then aborts...what could be wrong?
[04:18] <Tintin> Thanks guys...
[04:18] <xylus> someone help me please!! im trying to install debian system on my current kubuntu and it wont detect my eathernet
[04:18] <xylus> so how do i find out what driver i need
[04:18] <xylus> so i can slect it from the list
[04:18] <xylus> i tryed network information and got nothing
[04:19] <xylus> anyone have any sugestions?
[04:19] <dr_willis> install debian system on my current kubuntu ?
[04:19] <Tintin> Agios: Ahh... never noticed the system settings sysv editor. Thanks... that's great!
[04:19] <xylus> yeah im installing debian
[04:20] <xylus> and getting rid of kubuntu
[04:20] <dr_willis> so the fact that kubuntu was there... meand nothing then eh? :)
[04:20] <xylus> no
[04:20] <xylus> i just wana know how i can find out what driver i need using kubuntu
[04:20] <xylus> where do i go to find out what driver is needed for my eathernet card
[04:20] <dr_willis> you mean what network card kernel module is loading.
[04:20] <xylus> i guess..
[04:21] <dr_willis> lsmod shows information about all loaded modules.
[04:21] <dr_willis> see what ones are loaded.
[04:22] <xylus> so many
[04:22] <xylus> that i cant tell wich one is the one i need lolz
[04:22] <dr_willis> and what is your network card?
[04:22] <dr_willis> lspci - lists what cards are on the system
[04:22] <xylus> kk ill check
[04:23] <beazely> xylus: lspci -vv|grep Ethernet
[04:23] <Ace2010> may i ask why your installing debian? and what method are you using to install? are you going to donwload the dvds or do a web install?
[04:23] <beazely> once you have the card type, working out the correct module is easy
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> is there a way, to send global messages?
[04:24] <beazely> although for it not to auto configure  seems strange, broken or old??
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> like irc global message
[04:24] <dr_willis> to everyone on this server?
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> no on this server
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> on linux
[04:24] <admiral_proFTW> MeTaMorfoziS, what?
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> when some users logged
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> and logins with root
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> and send a message to all
[04:25] <Ace2010> you mean like when a system admin pops up a message to you saying stuff
[04:25] <uniq> metamorfozis: 'wall'
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/desktop
[04:25] <uniq> metamorfozis: 'wall' or 'write'
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/konqueror
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/sounds
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/titanium
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/Titanium
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/wallpapers
[04:25] <admiral_proFTW> xylus, man stop that
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/kde_box_small.png
[04:25] <admiral_proFTW> use a pastebin or something
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/login
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/readme.txt
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/titanium_crystal.jpg
[04:25] <admiral_proFTW> xylus, STOP
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/titanium_fonts.jpg
[04:26] <admiral_proFTW> jesus
[04:26] <MeTaMorfoziS> hm the wall needs a file
[04:27] <brasse> hello
[04:32] <admiral_proFTW> xylan_ if you want to stay in the channel, use the paste bin
[04:32] <admiral_proFTW> !paste
[04:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:32] <schmakk> kdm gives me: *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x082550b0 and kdm.log says my mouse failed preinit. are those two things connecte?
[04:33] <admiral_proFTW> wakko, you read that?
[04:36] <schmakk> oh well, no kde for me
[04:39] <schmakk> how super, 3rd reboot fixed it. this stuff makes no sense.
[04:40] <dr_willis> Thats part of the 'making linux more like windows trend' :)
[04:40] <schmakk> well, why is it that my mouse is usually at /dev/input/event4 and then sometimes at /dev/input/event3?
[04:40] <v3ctor> lol
[04:41] <schmakk> it makes x die in horrible ways
[04:41] <dr_willis> schmakk,  i tend to just use /dev/input/mice
[04:41] <dr_willis> schmakk,  that way its all the mice/pointers. (I think)
[04:41] <schmakk> i tried that but evdev wont work very well with it
[04:41] <dr_willis> Not sure how that works. :) but it works on my laptop that way very well.
[04:45] <wola> hi
[04:45] <lens_> I want to switch from Gnome to Kubuntu... what should I type in the bash prompt?
[04:45] <trappist> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:45] <admiral_proFTW> lens_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <schmakk> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-..... trappist was faster
[04:46] <trappist> I win
[04:46] <lens_> lol, and it will automatically start up Kubuntu?
[04:46] <admiral_proFTW> lens_, it will install it
[04:46] <schmakk> when its done, you can choose kde in gdm
[04:46] <lens_> oh ok, cool :)
[04:46] <trappist> lens_: no, you'll need to log out.  it should ask you at some point if you want to switch your desktop manager from gdm to kdm, and I recommend saying yes.
[04:47] <admiral_proFTW> and when you reboot it,  you can log in with KDE
[04:47] <schmakk> that means that at the login screen, you find select session and click kde
[04:47] <lens_> right on, sounds easy enough... thanks!
[04:47] <lens_> Im gunna do it :)
[04:47] <schmakk> worked for me
[04:47] <lens_> Kubuntu has cooler apps and stuff.
[04:48] <lens_> (made to be integrated with the desktop I mean)
[04:48] <trappist> yeah all the cool guys use kde
[04:48] <admiral_proFTW> lens_, its easier to navigate
[04:48] <admiral_proFTW> I think
[04:48] <lens_> ;-)
[04:48] <dr_willis> CHicks perfer guys that use KDE.
[04:49] <trappist> definitely
[04:49] <dr_willis> chicks hear 'gnome' and think of alt.binary.erotica.midget.wrestlers
[04:49] <dr_willis> :)
[04:49] <lens_> lol
[04:49] <lens_> true
[04:49] <trappist> and you can trust us on that - our presence in a tech channel on irc is evidence that we are experts on chicks
[04:50] <dr_willis> Yea  - all the real loosers are playing MMORPGS
[04:50] <dr_willis> :)
[04:50] <lens_> Well, this chat room is a good size... I'm sick of competing with 900 people to talk in #ubuntu
[04:50] <trappist> psst... it's a "channel"  :)
[04:50] <lens_> yeah :)
[04:51] <dr_willis> lens_,  and they all got ya on Ignore. :P
[04:51] <lens_> haha whatever.
[04:51] <lens_> I'm backing up a DVD so I have to wait a few.
[04:54] <lens_> Geeze my mouse is acting weird, maybe I can change the setting in Kubuntu.
[04:55] <lens_> I put new batteries in it, but it seems to have an inconsistent speed.
[04:55] <eitch0000> where would I go for info about webcams?
[04:56] <trappist> lens_: if you're backing up a dvd, you're probably having i/o issues
[04:56] <lens_> trappist, that makes sense.
[04:56] <eitch0000> where would I go for info about webcams?
[04:56] <lens_> it's almost done, just ripping the iso at the moment.
[04:57] <jaffa_> could some1 please tell me why amarok doesnt want to play my mp3s????
[04:57] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[04:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <admiral_proFTW> jaffa_, restricted formats
[04:58] <admiral_proFTW> open that link up
[04:59] <jaffa_> ok
[05:02] <Azzco> I can't figure out what's the problem over here...I'm trying to launch a game from terminal but all it says is SIGIOT [iot trap]  and aborts...any suggestions?
[05:06] <Agios> Azzco: it could be compiled with an older release of libc or gtk. A recompile might correct it.
[05:06] <Azzco> thx Agios that was something that I needed to hear =)
[05:07] <Azzco> might be back in a while...I've got a backup plan for playing the game too hehe
[05:12] <confused> I cant seem to get nvidia to run properly, is there anyone that could help?
[05:13] <m5m> OpenOffice's Spelling-Checker doesn't seem to work for me at all... anyone have a clue how to tackle this?
[05:16] <Philip5> confused: what about it?
[05:18] <confused> Philip5: this is where I got it from http://cholito.org/2006/03/17/installing-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu/  (it's a small guide) I followed it sort of to the letter but it didnt work out
[05:19] <confused> Philip5: when asked to choose with driver I choose alsa cause nvidia didnt show up in there.. and the enable nvidia config or w/e didnt work cause the cmd wasnt found.. I went to xorg.conf and put nvidia in the drivers place and when booting up the system hangs and I cant see an error or nothing
[05:21] <Philip5> confused: first... is the nvidia module loaded into your kernel? check with 'lsmod | grep nvidia'
[05:22] <confused> Philip5: it shows this nvidia               4550772  0
[05:22] <confused> i2c_core               21904  3 i2c_acpi_ec,nvidia,i2c_nforce2
[05:22] <confused> agpgart                34888  2 nvidia,amd64_agp
[05:22] <Philip5> ok
[05:22] <Philip5> if you run 'glxinfo'
[05:23] <Philip5> you don't get any nvidia info?
[05:23] <confused> uhu thats a lot of info there for the cmd.. I dont know what id look for
[05:24] <Philip5> confused: in the about 3-4 line say 'server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation'
[05:25] <confused> Philip5: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:25] <Philip5> confused: then that is what's wrong... you get the mesa glx instead of nvidia
[05:26] <confused> Philip5: you make it sound like it's so simple lol.. im new to linux
[05:26] <Philip5> it's in your xorg.conf you see that the right glx is loaded
[05:27] <confused> alright i'll open that up
[05:27] <Philip5> confused: could you past your xorg.conf at pastebin?
[05:27] <Philip5> then i can have a look
[05:27] <Philip5> paste
[05:27] <confused> ok I guess
[05:27] <Philip5> !paste
[05:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:27] <confused> I know
[05:28] <Philip5> ok
[05:29] <confused> Philip5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18866
[05:29] <Philip5> ok, i'll check
[05:30] <confused> didnt mean to sound mean or w/e but im used to being on irc now cause things ive tried have yet to run smoothly :X
[05:30] <MukiEX> Is there a way to backup every package I've downloaded via apt to a disc and turn it into a personal repository?
[05:31] <confused> Philip5: I know for drivers it's set to nv but that was the only way to even get kubuntu to boot up
[05:31] <Philip5> confused: ok
[05:31] <Philip5> confused: do you have this file in this place? '/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so'
[05:32] <confused> Philip5: it seems that way since it's asking what I want to run it with
[05:33] <ryanakca> whats the difference between the new kdelibs and the old one? (I'm running upgrade)
[05:34] <Philip5> confused: what asks that?
[05:35] <confused> Philip5: when you asked if I had the file libglx.so I said id assume so cause when I place that in a folder (address bar) and hit enter a window comes up asking what id like to run that file with
[05:35] <confused> Philip5: so yes it's there :X
[05:35] <Philip5> aha
[05:35] <confused> lol
[05:36] <Philip5> try to force it to use the nvidia glx by using 'Load           "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so"'
[05:36] <Philip5> then change nv to nvidia
[05:37] <Philip5> and restart X
[05:38] <confused> dont wanna :X told ya when I did that and tried to start the computer it will hang on a screen and id have to restart
[05:38] <slushpupie> does anyone know of any hacks/patches to make KDM handle pam asking for multiple password inputs?
[05:38] <confused> oh I didnt see that other top message.. umm i'll try that
[05:39] <Philip5> ops... gave you the wrong line there
[05:39] <Philip5> try to force it to use the nvidia glx by using 'Load           "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so"'
[05:41] <confused> I typed that whole thing "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so"' and now in terminal it shows a > after that and nothing else... now try and change nv to nvidia?
[05:42] <yamal> slushpupie: why multiple passwords?
[05:42] <Philip5> confused: now i see
[05:42] <confused> Philip5: what?
[05:42] <Philip5> hehe
[05:43] <confused> yes?
[05:43] <Philip5> to confuse a bit more it should be 'Load           "usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"'
[05:43] <Philip5> if you have that one too
[05:44] <ninniuz> anyone with a asus a8jc laptop?
[05:44] <Philip5> and that one should be a symlink to libglx.so.1.0.8762 in the same dir
[05:44] <slushpupie> yamal: Static password + SecurID
[05:44] <confused> uhu.. not making any sense? I typed that in as shown 'Load "usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"'
[05:44] <confused> now you lost me
[05:44] <slushpupie> yamal: its the Kerberos pam module, actually
[05:44] <Philip5> confused: oh... that line should be in xorg.conf
[05:44] <Philip5> you should't type it in a shell
[05:45] <confused> Philip5: I assume terminal unless stated other wize
[05:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:45] <confused> Philip5: where should it be placed then in xorg.conf?
[05:45] <Philip5> confused: change the line Load "glx" with Load "usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"
[05:46] <Philip5> confused: change the line Load "glx" with Load "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"
[05:46] <yamal> slushpupie: sorry no idea what a SecurID is
[05:46] <Philip5> and first see that you have that file in that place
[05:46] <Philip5> it's the nvidia glx
[05:47] <slushpupie> yamal: Its a physical card I have with a number that changes once per minute. That is in sync with the kerberos server.  Thats the second "password"
[05:48] <Philip5> confused: got it?
[05:48] <yamal> pfff in that case i cant help you
[05:49] <confused> Philip5: umm trying to :) not used to using nano **** in terminal
[05:49] <confused> Philip5: almost done
[05:49] <Philip5> confused: i never use nano :)
[05:50] <confused> Philip5: should there be two "" at the end of that cmd?
[05:50] <confused> Philip5: well what makes me mad is I dont need security what so ever and it always asks for root passwords ;\
[05:50] <confused> Philip5: before having to reinstall kubuntu I had that rid of almost
[05:50] <Philip5> confused: you one at each end like: "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"
[05:51] <confused> Philip5: oh okay I saw two
[05:52] <Philip5> confused: you see how they are written in the modules section of xorg.conf
[05:52] <confused> Philip5: now change nv to nvidia?
[05:53] <Philip5> confused: yes
[05:53] <confused> Philip5: yeah.. had to sudo -s that to get it to write ;\ as I said the perm. stuff is annoying ahha
[05:53] <confused> Philip5: alrighty :) thanks man.. if it dont work i'll be back on ;)
[05:54] <Philip5> confused: if you type 'sudo passwd' then you get a root account with that password that you can login to
[05:54] <Philip5> then you can su instead of always doing sudo
[05:54] <Philip5> if you like
[06:01] <gammamute> hello
[06:01] <Antonio_> hi
[06:01] <gammamute> FUCK YOU
[06:01] <gammamute> I mean
[06:01] <gammamute> hi!
[06:01] <Antonio_> ?
[06:02] <confused> Philip5: I didnt work
[06:02] <Philip5> confused: what now?
[06:03] <confused> Philip5: lol :p I changed nv to nvidia and restarted and the screen still hangs.. had to change back to nv to boot up
[06:03] <Philip5> does it hang so you have to reboot or do you get an error message that X can't start?
[06:04] <confused> like last time.. no message what so ever :(
[06:04] <Cntryboy> Can someone tell me why java isn't working with konqueror web browser?
[06:04] <roconnor> how do I read an entire file into an (IO)Array?
[06:04] <Philip5> confused: that's strange
[06:04] <confused> it gets the a scree where it loads up stuff and when it's about to go to the next screen it stays at the same screen.. it's weird
[06:05] <confused> Philip5: yep
[06:05] <Philip5> confused: can you put you /var/log/Xorg.0.log at pastebin?
[06:05] <confused> Philip5: sure
[06:06] <Philip5> confused: while i take a quick shower here :)
[06:06] <Cntryboy> Anyone, someone?
[06:06] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: you have knoq. open?
[06:06] <confused> Philip5: nm then.. im gone go to bed :X ive been up.. umm 17 hours straight? good night :) thanks for the help
[06:06] <Cntryboy> yes
[06:07] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: do you see dialog?
[06:07] <Cntryboy> I'm in the configure konqueror area, and on the left side im where it says java & javascript
[06:07] <gnomefreak> sorry i mean do you see HTML
[06:07] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: Select "HTML Settings->Java" from the Tools menu to enable it.
[06:08] <Cntryboy> kk yah it was already checked on java script, but then i went to java also
[06:08] <Cntryboy> is that all I have to do?
[06:09] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: restart konq. that *should* be it
[06:09] <Cntryboy> ok let me try
[06:10] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: everytime I restart konq. the check for 'java' isn't there
[06:10] <Cntryboy> it's not saving it as checked
[06:11] <xylus> i cant install a theme titanium.kth with kubuntu anyone know how i can do this?
[06:11] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: you did install sun-java5-bin and set it as default java right?
[06:11] <xylus> it says to go into appearance and install new theme but its not their
[06:12] <Cntryboy> well I apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:12] <Think> hey hi all
[06:12] <Cntryboy> thats what someone here told me to get about 3 days ago
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin  <<< should work than run sudo update-alternatives --config java to set it to default
[06:13] <Think> question i have problem my xserver does not start
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: jre shouold bring in bin and plugin but im not looking at it atm
[06:14] <Cntryboy> I have 2.1KB, why do I have to download the plugin, if I've already spent 15 hours downloading the main java?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: here see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[06:14] <gnomefreak> it tells you everything that you need to know
[06:15] <xylus> someone please help me install a .kth theme for kubuntu
[06:15] <Cntryboy> okay, im going to go there so why would I have to download the plugin if I already have the main java downloaded?
[06:16] <Think> When X does not start what command can i use to fix my video card problem
[06:16] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: first makle sure java is set to default
[06:16] <xylus> or does anyone know how i can install this login screen for kubuntu?
[06:16] <Cntryboy> so type this sudo update-alternatives --config java  ?
[06:17] <Cntryboy> that url u gave me is still taking it's time to load :(
[06:17] <Think> xylus try typ in command kcontrok
[06:17] <Think> xylus try typ in command kcontrol
[06:17] <Cntryboy> how can I see if its set to default
[06:17] <xylus> ok
[06:17] <Think> ok
[06:18] <xylus> wow think yr awesome XD
[06:18] <xylus> thx thats what i was lookin for
[06:18] <xylus> their was no link to it in my menu folders or anything
[06:18] <xylus> thx thx thx XD
[06:18] <Think> your welcome
[06:18] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: yes that is the command
[06:18] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: I have a +   2      /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[06:18] <gnomefreak> you want the one that says java1.5
[06:19] <Cntryboy> I have a 1 and a 3 line but not a + by them just line 2
[06:19] <Cntryboy> okay so hit 3
[06:19] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: yes
[06:19] <gnomefreak> if that is the one
[06:19] <Think> When X does not start what command can i use to fix my video card problem
[06:19] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: after that go back into konq. and reset it
[06:19] <Cntryboy> this is for line 3, so im guessing its it   /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[06:19] <gnomefreak> than restart it
[06:19] <gnomefreak> yes thats the one
[06:19] <Cntryboy> kk js
[06:20] <gnomefreak> Think: what video card?
[06:20] <Think> nvidia
[06:20] <gnomefreak> Think: you need to install nvidia-glx
[06:20] <Think> yes i know
[06:20] <Think> but can't get in kde
[06:21] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: the java won't stay checked after I restart :(
[06:21] <sophie_> hello all I have a quick question
[06:21] <gnomefreak> Think: if you use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set it to vesa (driver) restart X you will have a working GUI so you can fix it
[06:21] <Think> ok
[06:21] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: ok give me a min let me try mine
[06:21] <Think>  thanks
[06:21] <sophie_> how do you enbale musicbrainz for MP3 in amarok?
[06:21] <Cntryboy> kk thx
[06:21] <sophie_> do I have to recompile
[06:22] <Cntryboy> +    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[06:22] <Cntryboy> *     3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[06:22] <Cntryboy> thats what my config says
[06:22] <gnomefreak> thats fine
[06:24] <Cntryboy> i bet I have to save profile after it's checked rigfht?
[06:24] <Cntryboy> maybe thats my prob
[06:24] <gnomefreak> ok found out why just let me try a few things to get it working right
[06:24] <Azzco> Okay I've got some 3D problems now... the 3D screensavers looks horrible
[06:24] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: okay
[06:25] <Azzco> I haven't understood how to add the render accel line in the xorg.conf...could somebody help me with it?
[06:26] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[06:27] <Antonio_> could be "http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper" is down?
[06:27] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: what arch are you using i 386?
[06:27] <Cntryboy> yah
[06:28] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: go into configure konq.
[06:28] <gnomefreak> system>configure konq. than click on java and javascript
[06:28] <Cntryboy> k
[06:28] <Cntryboy> there
[06:28] <gnomefreak> you see at the bottom where is says path?
[06:28] <Cntryboy> yup
[06:29] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: it says java?
[06:29] <grzesiek> hi, I've just installed fresh kubuntu, and after upgrading with the last patches my sound went down. aplay hangs up and plays a sound on and on, and so is amarok and other apps. All worked ok right after install, before updating. Can someone give me any clues? I've got a Via onboard sound card.
[06:29] <Cntryboy> i was wondering about that earlier
[06:29] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: yes it says java
[06:29] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: delete what it says in there and put this /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/lib/i386/
[06:29] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: than hit apply
[06:29] <Cntryboy> done
[06:29] <Cntryboy> now go to html click java and restart?
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: close restart it and look under HTML again to see it checked ;)
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: it should already be checked
[06:30] <Cntryboy> yes
[06:30] <Cntryboy> :), now let me c if it works js
[06:30] <gnomefreak> you have java
[06:32] <Azzco> could someone help me edit xorg.conf?
[06:33] <Azzco> I'm not sure if I'm doing right =$
[06:34] <Azzco> In the forums they're talking about adding this line "option "RenderAccel" "true"" but nothing happend when I did =/
[06:34] <sophie_> sophie_: you are nice
[06:34] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: yes it works now thx bro, I tested it at yahoo-pool. It loaded the applet different than usual though, but ti works :)
[06:36] <Cntryboy> Azzco: is that for direct rendering, because when I glxinfo | grep direct it says no for me also.
[06:37] <Azzco> I'll check what it says for me Cntryboy
[06:37] <Cntryboy> k
[06:37] <andre_> i'm having trouble getting my tv-out to work on my GF6200.  i have my xorg.conf set up for separate screens on the monitor ad the TV, but as soon as X starts the TV loses signal, Xorg.0.log gives no mentiona at all about screen 1 just 0
[06:38] <Azzco> "Direct rendering: no" =/ might that be a problem?
[06:41] <Cntryboy> Azzco: maybe, mine at one time said yes, im trying to see why its no now
[06:41] <Azzco> Cntryboy: what chipset do you have?
[06:42] <Cntryboy> Azzco: a guy told me if you have a recent ATI or Nvidia card you want obtain accelaration suppport unless you install propietary drivers (a.k.a binary blobs). Dri has nothing to do with it (the FOSS dri dirvers simply don't support post 1992 AT/Nvidia cards, blame the vendors).
[06:42] <dr_willis> I hand-edited my xorg.conf and set up twinview to get my tvout and montior both working at the same time.
[06:42] <Cntryboy> i have geforce fx5500
[06:43] <dr_willis> i found several example xorg.conf's on the internet. and just twiddled with them
[06:43] <Azzco> I've got some intel...it autodetects intel 915
[06:44] <andre_> dr_willis: I'm trying to set up tv-out not using twinview so that there are separate screens for each. but the TV gets no signal as soona s X starts. any advice?
[06:44] <Jazon_lap> does anyone know how to enable power management in dapper? (in kde)
[06:44] <Cntryboy> Azzco: try room #ubuntu
[06:44] <yamal> andre_: paste your xorg.conf at the pastebin in the topic so we can take a look
[06:45] <Cntryboy> might find an answer there
[06:45] <Azzco> okay I will, THX =)
[06:45] <dr_willis> andre i set mine up to clone, ive only used twinview.. and it took me a day worth of reading/looking/twiddling with it.
[06:45] <dr_willis> andre could check out that MEPIS live cd. it had a xorg/multimonutor config tool.. if ya can make it work.. copy its xorg.conf :)
[06:46] <andre_> yamal: its already here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18829 and the Xorg.0.log is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18828
[06:46] <andre_> dr_willis: thanks for the suggestion. no blank cdrs att he moment thoguh
[06:47] <timi> how can i change the icon for my open office docements so its not clear
[06:47] <Adam_G> hi, anyone know what the KDE panel process is? (like gnome-panel... for kde)
[06:48] <yamal> andre_: no tv output options?
[06:48] <yamal> tv format etc
[06:48] <insanekane> Adam_G: kicker
[06:48] <Adam_G> insanekane, thanks
[06:48] <andre_> yes, theres an entire device and screen section dedicated to the TV.
[06:48] <yamal> andre_: yes but no tv output formats
[06:49] <Guest477>  is anyone using kubuntu or edubuntu able to use java in an environment like yahoo games? i have repeated and unsuccesfully beaten this to a pulp... note that under this installation of ubuntu i am able to properly access most java based resources
[06:49] <flauzio> hi
[06:49] <yamal> like pal or whatever they use elsewhere
[06:49] <flauzio> this is the forst time i join kubuntu
[06:49] <andre_> yamal: where would I put it? im in canada that's pal right?
[06:49] <yamal> andre_: check the nvidia readme, it tells you which areas use what
[06:50] <yamal> andre_: the options are called  TVStandard and TVOutFormat
[06:51] <andre_> yamal: thanks
[06:51] <yamal> they go in the device section for the tv
[06:51] <yamal> yw
[06:51] <ganymed123> hello
[06:51] <ganymed123> i need some help with graphics-magick
[06:54] <flauzio> i need some help to find documentation about overview of comparing gnome to kde :)
[06:54] <ganymed123> i wanna process a number of images like img1234.jpg to picture-1234.jpg with ascending numbers after the - ... however gm gives me files like: picture.jpg.1234. any ideas?
[06:56] <secleinteer> flauzio: you can just install ubuntu and then add kubuntu-desktop, and then you can try both for yourself
[06:56] <secleinteer> but http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome.php has a comparison
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> how do i enable power management in my kernel?
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> for some reason it is not enabled it tells me
[06:57] <timi> kpowersave >timi
[06:57] <secleinteer> Jazon_lap: should be in system settings
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> i know
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> i agree
[06:57] <ganymed123> Jazon_lap: are you using a laptop?
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> but its not
[06:57] <timi> !kpowersave >timi
[06:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about kpowersave  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> yes i am
[06:58] <Jazon_lap> an nec i-select 5410
[06:58] <secleinteer> hence the "lap" part lol
[06:58] <flauzio> secleinteer: thanks already done, and i'm trying them, but i have some doubt
[06:58] <secleinteer> k
[06:58] <flauzio> secelinteer, thx fo the link :)
[06:59] <secleinteer> np ;)
[06:59] <franz_> It happened again! The KDE toolbar at the bottom of the screen refuses to appear when the mouse goes down there, nor at any other location. I can't remember how this problem was solved about 2 weeks ago....
[07:00] <franz_> anyway i suspect this is a bug in KDE
[07:00] <secleinteer> franz_: this happened to me
[07:00] <Lord_Athur> bye
[07:00] <secleinteer> but i have the winkey set to open the kmenu
[07:00] <secleinteer> so i was able to open it like that
[07:00] <secleinteer> but only like that
[07:01] <ganymed123> Jazon_lap: does cpu freuquency scaling work for you?
[07:01] <franz_> nlucky you...
[07:01] <secleinteer> so i went to system settings
[07:01] <franz_> lucky*
[07:01] <secleinteer> and i made it so that it wouldn't auto hide
[07:01] <timi> does kubuntu automatically support dual core
[07:01] <Jazon_lap> the weird thing is that I KNOW the power management works with this laptop - i just swiched to dapper from Kanotix and under kanotix it worked almost perfectly (the only issue was improper video playback after suspending)
[07:01] <secleinteer> then i made it again so it would auto hide
[07:01] <ganymed123> i need some help with the kipi-plugins (gwenview)
[07:01] <secleinteer> and now it works fine
[07:01] <SbCl3> is there a guide somewhere on how to make e16 kde's window manager?
[07:01] <ganymed123> anybody here who know about them?
[07:02] <franz_> secleinteer, now, how i can go to system settings?
[07:02] <dr_willis> SbCl3,  ya could start E16 and run kicker
[07:02] <dr_willis> or whatever the kde panel is called.
[07:02] <ganymed123> Jazon_lap: try the link in the topics section ... dapper known problems
[07:02] <secleinteer> i don't know
[07:02] <secleinteer> try alt+enter to open katapult
[07:02] <secleinteer> and type system settings
[07:03] <franz_> dr_willis, SbCl3 as Antimonium Trichloride?
[07:03] <franz_> it must be toxic.....
[07:04] <Azzco> how do I register?
[07:04] <dr_willis>  - /msg nickserv help
[07:05] <gnomefreak> i think its /msg nickserv help register
[07:06] <SbCl3> Antimony Trichloride, franz :)
[07:06] <gabriel1> Hello
[07:07] <timi> does kubuntu automatically support dual core
[07:07] <timi> because kpowersave only shows one processror
[07:07] <drayan> Yes of course.
[07:08] <timi> then they does it only show one processor
[07:08] <franz_> sorry SbCl3 ... translated from italian....
[07:08] <timi> at 1000mhz whent its a 2ghz dual core
[07:09] <franz_> Anyone can tell me how to open system settings ( i can't access the KDE menu) ?
[07:10] <MuJ> alt-f2 -> kcontrol ?
[07:10] <xylus> hey guys im trying to install superkaramba and it says couldent find package and i tryed sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[07:10] <drayan> Yes, alt-f2 -> systemsettings
[07:10] <secleinteer> xylus: you need to add repos
[07:10] <aztun> franz_: systemsettings on console
[07:10] <xylus> whats a repos sec?
[07:10] <secleinteer> repositories
[07:10] <xylus> u mean a repository?
[07:10] <secleinteer> yeah
[07:10] <xylus> how do i do that
[07:10] <franz_> ok thanks you all.... didn't know the command syntax
[07:11] <secleinteer> lemme get a tutorial
[07:11] <xylus> thanks sec its not hard is it>? <-- total noob
[07:11] <secleinteer> xylus: http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/06/25/tips-adding-extra-repositories-on-ubuntu/
[07:11] <xylus> thx ill check it out
[07:12] <danielknobe> np
[07:12] <danielknobe> im a noob to, but that is important
[07:12] <xylus> hmm this is gibberish to me
[07:12] <secleinteer> lol
[07:13] <franz_> hey, you think this bad behaviour of KDE toolbar is a bug of KDE or is it Kubuntu?
[07:13] <secleinteer> it happened to me after i tried to hide some tray icons
[07:13] <xylus> your private messages are blcok sec
[07:13] <xylus> blocked
[07:13] <danielknobe> hmmm.... KDE is'nt bad
[07:14] <secleinteer> are you registered here?
[07:14] <xylus> nope
[07:14] <xylus> :(
[07:14] <secleinteer> that's why
[07:14] <danielknobe> KDE is a matter of taste.
[07:14] <danielknobe> same like gnome
[07:14] <xylus> ./nickreg or soemthing isent it
[07:14] <secleinteer> do "/msg nickserv REGISTER [password] "
[07:14] <gabriel1> i need help whit ubuntu and firefox and internet, can sombady help me?!
[07:14] <xylus> ok done
[07:14] <secleinteer> and to log in "/msg nickserv id [password] "
[07:15] <franz_> danielknobe, I prefer KDE, but it has some bugs...
[07:17] <danielknobe> does apt-get update work on your maschines, NOW?? or are the servers down?
[07:18] <gabriel1> i need help whit ubuntu and firefox and internet, can sombady help me?!
[07:19] <danielknobe> whats your problem
[07:21] <gabriel1> i have installed all the plugins to firefox but when im gone whats a movie on like youtube ther is only a white squear wher the movie should be
[07:21] <gabriel1> sorry fore my bad english
[07:21] <danielknobe> im german, can't write good too^^
[07:21] <danielknobe> but i understand your problem
[07:21] <gabriel1> :p
[07:22] <gabriel1> and, can you help me?
[07:22] <danielknobe> mom ich check it out
[07:22] <Lynoure> Has anyone by any chance packaged kdissert for ubuntu? I couldn't find one, and could do that, just have to check first
[07:22] <gabriel1> ok
[07:23] <Ace2005> Lynoure: its in the repositories, i just checked in synaptic
[07:24] <danielknobe> hmm it is possible that the servers are not available?
[07:24] <danielknobe> apt-get install do not get a connection
[07:24] <dr_willis> theres some server issues at this time.
[07:24] <gabriel1> i dont know :S
[07:24] <danielknobe> hmm fuck
[07:24] <danielknobe> for your problem:
[07:25] <danielknobe> install vlv media player
[07:25] <gabriel1> ok
[07:25] <danielknobe> than the mozilla-plugin-vlc
[07:25] <danielknobe> and all will be good i think^^
[07:25] <Ace2005> any info on the cause of all this server down time?
[07:25] <danielknobe> no idea
[07:25] <danielknobe> the apt-get upgrade workx
[07:25] <danielknobe> update don't workx
[07:26] <danielknobe> apt-get don't workx, too
[07:26] <danielknobe> with the default aptlist
[07:26] <gabriel1> wher do i install vlv media player
[07:27] <Lynoure> Ace2005: I think I checked this morning... hmm, in backport, perhaps
[07:27] <danielknobe> with apt
[07:27] <gabriel1> what is apt?
[07:27] <danielknobe> lool if u have the aptlist with the resource
[07:27] <danielknobe> omg u don't know apt?^^
[07:28] <gabriel1> no i dont know
[07:28] <danielknobe> it's the think which makes kubuntu to one of the best distris
[07:28] <danielknobe> open the console
[07:28] <danielknobe> write
[07:28] <danielknobe> apt-get install vlc
[07:28] <danielknobe> do somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu
[07:28] <danielknobe> does it workx?
[07:28] <danielknobe> ah
[07:29] <danielknobe> sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:29] <danielknobe> does it work?
[07:29] <gabriel1> i think so
[07:29] <danielknobe> does he install vlc?
[07:30] <gabriel1> yes
[07:30] <danielknobe> n1 good and than install the plugin over the same way
[07:30] <danielknobe> restart firefox
[07:30] <danielknobe> and then all must work i think
[07:31] <gebruiker> HOW DO I UPDATE MY KDE MENU?
[07:31] <MilhousePunkRock> gebruiker: No need to shout, what do you want to upgrade?
[07:31] <danielknobe> what do u mean?
[07:31] <gabriel1> dosent work:)
[07:31] <gabriel1> *:(
[07:31] <danielknobe> arr
[07:31] <gebruiker> for example, kate isn't in the menu while i can invoke it from the xterm console...
[07:31] <danielknobe> to download the plugin?
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> if you rightclick on the kmenu icon, you can edit the menu, gebruiker
[07:32] <gebruiker>  MilhousePunkRock how do I set a gtk theme that looks like my qt env?
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't know, gebruiker, sorry
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Someone for sure does though
[07:34] <gabriel1> i donsent work !!!
[07:34] <danielknobe> could u download the plugin?
[07:34] <gabriel1> yes
[07:35] <danielknobe> i can't download the plugin because the servers are down oO
[07:35] <gabriel1> where do you install plugins?
[07:35] <danielknobe> with apt over the standart aptlist
[07:36] <gabriel1> yes, only i knowed what apt was:P
[07:36] <danielknobe> do somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu
[07:36] <danielknobe> hu this sentence i don't understand^^
[07:36] <gabriel1> what is apt
[07:37] <MilhousePunkRock> danielknobe: Did you look at the Wiki at ubuntu.whateveritis?
[07:37] <danielknobe> the "packagemanager" for debian based distris
[07:37] <user_> it seems that an update today destroyed my /et/fstab. im running edgy
[07:37] <user_> has someone experienced the same problem?
[07:38] <danielknobe> @ Milhouse what du u mean?
[07:38] <gabriel1> but how do you download plugins?
[07:39] <danielknobe> sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[07:40] <danielknobe> servers are online now
[07:41] <danielknobe> u can download the plugin now
[07:41] <Lynoure> Ace2005: Thanks :) I usually keep backports commented out unless I know I want something from there. Would have missed this one without your comment
[07:41] <timi> ive installed  kubuntu a few days ago, adn its the only operating system on my computer, ive set up firefox and the appropriate plugins and it says that ive used half my ram
[07:42] <timi> whihc was 1gb
[07:42] <bernabe> holaaa!!!
[07:42] <sebast> that's odd
[07:42] <bernabe> hallo
[07:42] <sebast> maybe a bug
[07:42] <danielknobe> close porn in the background^^ small joke
[07:43] <timi> yeah the widget i hvae saves 551 of 1003MB
[07:43] <danielknobe> where can u see your ram-status
[07:43] <timi> i have a widget
[07:43] <timi> im just really confused because i thought linux wasnt a memory hog like windows
[07:43] <uniq> timi: that's the cached ram too, i guess. check with 'free -m'
[07:43] <tsdgeos> you can also type "free"
[07:43] <dr_willis> timi,  linux isent.. its the other apps that are.
[07:43] <timi> uniq
[07:44] <dr_willis> unused ram - is wasted ram. when in doubt - its used as a cache.
[07:44] <timi> is that in konsole i type that
[07:44] <danielknobe> let's say gnu/linux^^
[07:44] <danielknobe> is here somebody how is a developer in C++???
[07:45] <gabriel1> no
[07:45] <Kr4t05> danielknobe: Are you looking for someone who knows C++?
[07:45] <timi> it says i have 17868 free
[07:45] <timi> and 415964 cached
[07:45] <Chousuke> I know some C++, so if your question is simple, I might be able to answer it.
[07:45] <Chousuke> timi: that's good, then
[07:45] <timi> ill take your word on it
[07:45] <Chousuke> timi: The amount of cache is what matters.
[07:46] <steveire> roughly how long might it take for cds to be shipped to germany?