[00:00] <minimec> amr_: So you would have something in /media. What is the exact name of that partition?
[00:01] <amr_> minimec: /media/309AFD059AFCC87C
[00:02] <blake_> Can I make one an icon in Unity that shows cpu usage, or on the top bar? (Ubuntu 12.04)
[00:02] <minimec> amr_: I guess it would be better to do that once manually and add you config and mountpoint to /etc/fstab. Like that it will be the same on every boot. But it might work your way too.
[00:02] <blake_> How do I show cpu usage, network, etc on the dash?
[00:02] <KatsumeBlisk> amr_: Is this live USB persistent? If not, minimec's fstab advice won't work.
[00:03] <trism> blake_: for the top panel (indicators) there is indicator-multiload
[00:03] <digitig> arrrghhh: is that -t nfs instead of -t nfs4?
[00:04] <blake_> trism thanks it's called "System Load Indicator" in Software Center.
[00:04] <amr_> it's persistent but I am putting the swap file on my main hard not my flash dirve
[00:04] <arrrghhh> digitig, i believe so 1 sec
[00:05] <digitig> arrrghhh: if it is, it still times out.
[00:05] <KatsumeBlisk> amr_: Yeah. Just making sure before you were editing settings on the USB. If it wasn't, you'd lose it after a reboot.
[00:05] <arrrghhh> digitig, if that showmount command fails, you haven't setup NFS
[00:05] <arrrghhh> digitig, http://www.virtues.it/2010/03/config-nfs-nas/
[00:05] <minimec> amr_: Let's create that file: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap bs=1M count=6144
[00:05] <trism> blake_: noted
[00:06] <minimec> amr_: That should create a swap file on your win7 partition.
[00:07] <amr_> minimec: I run the command
[00:08] <amr_> minimec: just blinking
[00:08] <minimec> amr_: It takes time....
[00:09] <arrrghhh> digitig, y'know what i mean?  have you configured NFS on the iomega doohickey?
[00:09] <amr_> minimec: 1M count=6144 6144+0 records in 6144+0 records out<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes (6.4 GB) copied, 126.436 s, 51.0 MB/s
[00:10] <amr_> here is the result but when I write free I got 0 swap
[00:10] <minimec> amr_: Good ;)
[00:10] <amr_> shall I restart now?
[00:10] <minimec> amr_: Now we give it the correct permissions: sudo chmod 600 /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap
[00:11] <amr_> done
[00:11] <minimec> amr_: Then we define it as swap: sudo mkswap /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap
[00:11] <minimec> amr_: Finally we activate it: sudo swapon /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap
[00:12] <amr_> blinking
[00:13] <amr_> done
[00:13] <amr_> yes
[00:13] <amr_> now can I hibernate?
[00:13] <amr_> thanks a lot
[00:14] <minimec> amr_: So you should see that swap space in the system monitor. Check that now.
[00:14] <W4sp> blake_: Did you see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1745568. Apart from the WebUpD8 it seems to be what you are looking for?
[00:14] <minimec> amr_: gnome-system-monitor
[00:14] <jhvcygd> .
[00:14] <amr_> yes it's there
[00:14] <minimec> amr_: Nice ;)
[00:15] <amr_> minimec: and it's okay in the free command too, now can I hibernate?
[00:16] <minimec> amr_: you should find the hibernate option in the panel in the menu on the right sie on your screen.
[00:16] <audstanley> hello all
[00:17] <amr_> minimec: no it's not there
[00:17] <amr_> minimec: log out : suspend : shut down
[00:17] <amr_> no hibernate
[00:18] <minimec> amr_: You're right... Hmmm. I use another windows manager (enlightenment e17). So I don't have that panel right now...
[00:19] <minimec> amr_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line
[00:19] <blake_> w4sp package 'indicator-sensors' and 'indicator-multiload' is exactly what I needed.
[00:19] <arrrghhh> lol i was just going to linkg http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/pm-action.8.html minimec
[00:19] <W4sp> blake_: well then. :-)
[00:19] <blake_> w4sp but THANKS!!
[00:20] <amr_> minimec: I am downloading something via software center right now, can I test the hibernate now?
[00:20] <dok42> Hey, does anyone have expirience with GLX not working on Intel graphics?
[00:20] <minimec> amr_: DOn't think so ... ;)
[00:20] <minimec> amr_: My idea now is, to make that working on every boot. KatsumeBlisk was right, that you need some persistent space on your USB stick for that. We would need to modify /etc/fstab.
[00:21] <IPm4n> Test
[00:21] <mininessie> what would be the reason why running spotify updating my computer and running minecraft cause minecraft to run slow what part is that affectign computer the processor or what
[00:21] <minimec> amr_: You would have to add this in /etc/fstab: /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap none swap defaults 0 0
[00:22] <minimec> amr_: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[00:23] <mininessie> i asked a qustion
[00:23] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: Are your CPUs at 100% when doing that?
[00:23] <KatsumeBlisk> !patience | mininessie
[00:23] <Kurbster> is there a way to track down what ubuntu did to a certain package to get it to work properly.  I am having a problem with bluetooth and the device class not being set correctly.  However, every other distro but Kubuntu has it fixed
[00:23] <amr_> minimec: how to do this (step bhy step) please
[00:23] <minimec> amr_: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[00:23] <minimec> amr_: You would have to add this in /etc/fstab: /media/309AFD059AFCC87C/6144MB.swap none swap defaults 0 0
[00:24] <brophat> during the latest kernel update today I got an error msg that dealing with the rt3090 driver it messed up do I want to send an error report blah blah. I got the same msg when i upgraded to 12.04. but everything seems to be working ok. should I just blow it off?
[00:24] <amr_> minimec: as last line?
[00:24] <KatsumeBlisk> amr_: yes
[00:24] <minimec> amr_: That should do.
[00:24] <amr_> done
[00:24] <arrrghhh> yar
[00:24] <minimec> amr_: Will be right back. Getting myself a cigarette
[00:25] <amr_> minimec: sure thank you so far so much
[00:25] <KatsumeBlisk> amr_: Make sure you save that file. :) Theoretically now it'll work with every boot. Wait until minimec comes back to test though. ;)
[00:25] <W4sp> Kurbster: In /var/log are log files dpkg.log. Please note that these logs rotate and you will find archives of old ones too.
[00:26] <thriveth> Hi channel - this may be a silly question, but I've googled and searched and found nothing. I'm trying to transfer a file via bluetooth from my phone to my Ubuntu laptop. Both phone and laptop say the transfer is going on, and when it ends, the Ubuntu tells me the file has been succesfully received, but it is nowhere to be found. Where is it?
[00:26] <digitig> arrrghhh: I've not gone away -- googling stuff...
[00:27] <arrrghhh> digitig, sorry was that guide no bueno?  where you at?
[00:27] <W4sp> thriveth: Did you check the usual suspects, such as Downloads, your Desktop?
[00:29] <thriveth> W4sp, yes but I found it through a file search, it was in the "Public folder even though I'd specifically set it to go in Downloads folder. Oh, well. Sorry for false alarm.
[00:29] <pf> hola
[00:29] <arrrghhh> !es | pf
[00:30] <digitig> arrrghhh: I've enabled NFS on the NAS (boy, did they bury the information on *that* deep in the manual! And the instructions to get to the setting were wrong). It's still not working, but I'm going to go through the steps I've already tried, to see if they work better now the drive understands NAS.
[00:30] <mininessie> what would be the reason why running spotify updating my computer and running minecraft cause minecraft to run slow what part is that affectign computer the processor or what
[00:31] <arrrghhh> digitig, ok.  that showmount command is a good one to test it out with.
[00:31] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: Is your CPU running at 100%? I didn't get an answer when I asked you.
[00:31] <W4sp> thriveth: That's anything else but a suitable location though.
[00:31] <Kurbster> W4sp: does this log file tell what patches are applied?  I don't have an active ubuntu installation, but I've been using a kubuntu livecd for testing purposes
[00:31] <arrrghhh> mininessie, you'll have to monitor it.  it's either processor or hard drive i would guess.
[00:31] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: Also, how's your RAM when running those?
[00:31] <rustler770> Has anyone been able to listen to radio using rhythmbox?
[00:32] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: It's not that uncommon when you have that much open. Minecraft is a big resource hog.
[00:32] <KatsumeBlisk> rustler770: I haven't done it with Rhythmbox, but I use RadioTray. Great program.
[00:32] <rustler770> I'll have to try it
[00:32] <KatsumeBlisk> rustler770: It's an indicator applet, but it enables listening to radio streams. You'll have to find the URLs for your radio stations.
[00:33] <KatsumeBlisk> rustler770: A quick google should do it. It wasn't hard to find the last time I looked.
[00:33] <dylan> I have that red caution triangle at the top of my screen, however when I check for updates, there are none available.
[00:33] <W4sp> Kurbster: It tells you when it has updated, yes.
[00:34] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: of total memory 68%
[00:34] <arrrghhh> dylan, how are you checking for updates?  can you run this in the terminal?  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[00:34] <rustler770> KatsumBlisk: I'll check it out, rhythmbox appears to be broken  for radio.
[00:34] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: How's the CPU?
[00:34] <thriveth> W4sp, which one do you mean, Public?
[00:35] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: idk how to check that
[00:35] <W4sp> Kurbster: Not sure about Kubuntu though. They have their own channel. #kubuntu
[00:35] <minimec> amr_: re
[00:35] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: What DE are you using?
[00:35] <dylan> arrrghhh: here is the result, the errors are towards the end
[00:35] <dylan> arrrghhh:http://pastebin.com/jGmLmLR6
[00:36] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: KDE
[00:36] <arrrghhh> dylan, in the terminal again, can you 'ping ppa.launchpad.net' ?
[00:36] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: There should be a system monitor program in either system or utilities in the menu.
[00:37] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: I haven't used KDE in a while, so I don't remember the exact location.
[00:37] <dylan> the ping requests are coming through
[00:37] <Kubuntu_terryg> hi
[00:38] <arrrghhh> dylan, ok ctrl-c to cancel it
[00:38] <Kubuntu_terryg> Anybody using vsftp with virtual users?
[00:38] <drsteinberg> i'm having a problem with monitor detection as well as display settings, probably a problem with my Xorg driver settings
[00:39] <arrrghhh> dylan, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[00:39] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: its jumping all over the place but is never under 30 and its about 80 percent
[00:39] <Budric> Hi, can someone tell me how I can fake exit code of 0 from a program?  I'm trying to write an upstart job, and "killall process" command fails because process is not running, but that's ok I don't care it's just cleanup and I want it to continue, unfortunately upstart stops there.  This is even with "normal exit 0 1" specified.
[00:39] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: I'd say that with all three running it's too much for your system.
[00:39] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: Graphics may have something to do with this too. Minecraft is a heavy game because it renders all the blocks.
[00:39] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: so what would i need to make sure it can handle all of this stuff
[00:39] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: i have an nvidia 560 ti
[00:40] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: I don't really think there's anything you can do.
[00:40] <drsteinberg> i'm having a problem with monitor detection as well as display settings, probably a problem with my Xorg driver settings. can anyone help me?
[00:40] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: You said you're updating while spotify and MC right?
[00:40] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: The update may be doing it. I'd wait until it's done.
[00:40] <mininessie> KatsumeBlisk: i am actually on arch lol
[00:41] <KatsumeBlisk> mininessie: Just chose a popular channel, eh? :P So what's your computer running/doing again?
[00:41] <arrrghhh> mininessie, there is #archlinux...
[00:42] <drsteinberg> i'm having a problem with monitor detection as well as display settings, probably a problem with my Xorg driver settings. can anyone help me?
[00:42] <KatsumeBlisk> arrrghhh: You made him leave. :P
[00:42] <dylan> arrrghhh:http://pastebin.com/jpcRmkhD
[00:42] <digitig> arrrghhh: Still not connecting, but I think we have progress. showmount -e gives me:
[00:42] <digitig>  showmount -e <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:42] <digitig> Export list for <IP_ADDRESS>:
[00:42] <digitig> /mnt/pools/A/A0/Eva            *
[00:42] <digitig> /mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim            *
[00:42] <digitig> /mnt/pools/A/A0/Jane           *
[00:42] <digitig> /mnt/pools/A/A0/David          *
[00:42] <FloodBot1> digitig: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <dylan> digitig: use pastebin for multilines
[00:43] <dylan> he appears to have been shadow banned
[00:43] <arrrghhh> digitig, dude pastebin
[00:43] <dylan> thats what mode q is right...?
[00:44] <dylan> yep
[00:44] <arrrghhh> dylan, i think his voice has been removed
[00:44] <KatsumeBlisk> dylan: I think he's muted. It lasts for about a min I think
[00:44] <arrrghhh> yea that's the one
[00:44] <KatsumeBlisk> dylan: He'll come back.
[00:44] <dylan> arrrghhh: thats what a shadow ban is
[00:44] <digitig> dylan: sorry -- rarely use ICQ so don't know about things like pastebin.
[00:44] <arrrghhh> shadow ban lol
[00:44] <arrrghhh> digitig, you've been using it so well :P
[00:44] <dylan> digitig: it's cool
[00:44] <acyed> hello everyone
[00:44] <dylan> arrrghhh: shadow ban looks like your typing and submitting, but no-one else sees it
[00:45] <arrrghhh> yes.  we've all described the same thing using different words...
[00:45] <arrrghhh> dylan, it's probably something in /etc/apt/sources.d/
[00:46] <dylan> I shall go check
[00:46] <arrrghhh> er /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[00:46] <dylan> what am I looking for?
[00:46] <arrrghhh> do you have some custom ppa's in thar?
[00:46] <blake_> Alt + Click is the only reason I use Linux and X11 =)
[00:46] <dylan> let me post the ls output
[00:47] <dylan> arrrghhh:google-chrome.list  pmcenery-ppa-precise.list  pmcenery-ppa-precise.list.save  webupd8team-java-precise.list
[00:47] <arrrghhh> dylan, can you rename all of them to see if it fixes the issue?
[00:47] <acyed> I have a toshiba 1tb hard drive that is detected by ubuntu and mounted, but does not show the stuff contained on the drive. when i opened gparted, it shows one fat32, 200 mb with efi label, one unknown partition and one unallocated
[00:47] <acyed> has anyone seen this before?
[00:48] <dylan> acyed: this has happened to me before,
[00:48] <dylan> acyed: I can't remember what I did though
[00:48] <acyed> ah, but you did get it to work?
[00:48] <SnapSnap> How do I move my OpenPGP secret key from one computer to another. Both run 12.04 and use Seahorse as a front end.
[00:49] <dylan> acyed: not sure... can you see the files when you access it via command line, like with ls?
[00:49] <dylan> did you try cntrl-H to see if they were hidden somehow?
[00:49] <acyed> dylan: let me check
[00:49] <HelloWorld321> !libre
[00:50] <Budric> anyone know how to run a script and have exit status be forced to 0?
[00:50] <studio> how can i store a command output as a log?
[00:50] <dylan> Budic: why do you want to force exit status to be zero?
[00:50] <Budric> studio: command >> logfile?
[00:51] <Budric> dylan: upstart is failing because "killall someprocess" returns 1 when process isn't running.  It's a cleanup command and I don't care that it's failing
[00:51] <dylan> studio: just append ">> filename" to the end of the file
[00:51] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:51] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: In your home directory is a .gnupg folder. You may want to copy that?
[00:51] <dylan> Budric, just use -m, i think that is force-kill
[00:51] <dylan> i.e. I dont care if you fail, just do it
[00:52] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: In your home directory is a .gnupg folder. You may want to copy that?
[00:52] <SnapSnap> W4sp: I have keys on both computers. If I merge the folders will it preserve all keys?
[00:52] <studio> Budric:i want to execute a command and then the output store it to a txt file
[00:52]  * W4sp_ thinks the lag time today is incredible.
[00:53] <dylan> studio: just append ">> filename.txt" to the end
[00:53] <studio> ok
[00:53] <Budric> dylan: -m isn't an option on ubuntu.  looking at man I don't see anything that will work
[00:53] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: Don't!
[00:53] <dylan> hmmm
[00:53] <dylan> do you have to use killall? you could use pkill or something else
[00:53] <dylan> pastebin the script
[00:53] <dylan> let me take a crack
[00:54] <SnapSnap> W4sp: I'm going to backup both folders, then try to copy the one over to the otehr
[00:54] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: It will overwrite. I need to know if you have different private keys for the same email address(es).
[00:54] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: Don't do that. It will not work.
[00:54] <acyed> dylan: nope, I cant access the drive with mount
[00:54] <Budric> http://pastebin.com/nMjBBSNe
[00:54] <dylan> hmmmm
[00:54] <Budric> thanks
[00:55] <acyed> dylan: correction, I can mount it
[00:56] <studio> Budric: doesnt work.. :S
[00:56] <Budric> studio, which part?  "command >> filename" doesn't work?
[00:56] <SnapSnap> W4sp: I had an old key associated with an e-mail address. I quit using that computer so I set up a new key for the same e-mail address on the new computer. Now I'd like to get the original key onto the new computer. I don't care if the new key is preserved.
[00:57] <studio> Budric: yeap
[00:57] <digitig> arrrghhh: Nope. Still timing out. My command line is sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 <IP_ADDRESS> :/ /nfs (or /Tim at the end, or /mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim)
[00:58] <Budric> studio: try command &> filename  that redirects stderr and stdout
[00:59] <arrrghhh> digitig, 1 sec.  that command seems unnecessarily complex.
[00:59] <W4sp_> SnapSnap: If I get that one right all you would need to do is to use your old key rings, revoke your old but valid key and create a new one. Your old private key should be preserved. Once you have done that you can copy it over to the other machine. I strongly suggest to make a backup of both key rings for secure and public keys.
[00:59] <arrrghhh> digitig, did you pastebin the output of that show command?
[01:00] <arrrghhh> digitig, lets make it really simple.  mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/files /blahasdf/files
[01:00] <arrrghhh> you'll probably need at least the -t nfsv4
[01:00] <arrrghhh> just try nfs first actually
[01:01] <studio> Budric: thanks it works yeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiihh
[01:02] <digitig> arrrghhh: Do I just give you the URL? http://pastebin.com/vNCqQmWx
[01:03] <gypseh> hey is there a way to load my entire 10.04 rig from ram like have it sped dump the SSD contents at boot up?
[01:04] <arrrghhh> digitig, excellent.  now try this mount command.  "sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim /media/tim"
[01:04] <arrrghhh> digitig, you might need to adjust the /media/tim side to whatever you have in Ubuntu
[01:05] <xcervo> hello guys, an1 here uses gg client with ubuntu?
[01:05] <OerHeks> gypseh, i found that disable IPv6 is saving 9 sec boottime
[01:07] <digitig> arrrghhh: And we have victory! Now presumably I put that in my /etc/fstab before I forget it! Many thanks.
[01:08] <arrrghhh> digitig, lol not quite.  let me help you with that :)
[01:09] <arrrghhh> digitig, sorry trying to find the exact command i used on mine
[01:09] <vaks> anyone know how to change the bootloader screen?
[01:09] <niriven> where is /etc/xorg.conf.d?
[01:10] <KatsumeBlisk> No one pinged me right?  I'm not psychic.
[01:11] <arrrghhh> digitig, try this.  <IP_ADDRESS>::/mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim /mntpoint nfs rw,soft,intr 0 0
[01:11] <arrrghhh> digitig, now i recall adding some lines to increase the speed of the NFS mount
[01:11] <digitig> arrrghhh: Well, I've just encountered a new problem. When I try to open a shell I get an error "getpt failed. No such file or directory".
[01:11] <niriven> ok i am trying to set a file that normally exists on most distros in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d. this folder doe snot exist on ubuntu, where is it?
[01:11] <WeThePeople> what is the command to check video ram
[01:12] <arrrghhh> digitig, uhhh?  how are you trying to open a shell?
[01:12] <W4sp> niriven: :-) You can find xorg.conf in /etc/X11. It's not needed unless it is. ;-) You may need to create one yourself.
[01:12] <digitig> arrrghhh: <ctrl> <alt> T
[01:12] <niriven> W4sp: not what i am looking for though.... looking for xorg.conf.d, a folder.
[01:12] <arrrghhh> digitig, that's odd.  i'll have to google that one.
[01:12] <KatsumeBlisk> niriven: You may need to make it.
[01:13] <arrrghhh> i have a bit of experience with NFS.  this is a new one :P
[01:13] <gr33n7007h> niriven, /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:13] <niriven> gr33n7007h: thank you!
[01:13] <gr33n7007h> np
[01:13] <arrrghhh> digitig, i see people talking about fstab.  did you try to edit it already?
[01:13] <niriven> gr33n7007h: acutally it is not there either
[01:14] <gr33n7007h> niriven, what ubuntu?
[01:14] <niriven> gr33n7007h: yes sir
[01:14] <SnapSnap> W4sp: Turns out seahorse has an option to export an your entire key. Thanks for your help.
[01:14] <gr33n7007h> niriven, which version
[01:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> Is there a standard way to customize an installation and replicate it on multiple machines? I mean, something like kickstart, but I also need to include some files that need to be installed after it's done.
[01:14] <niriven> gr33n7007h: 12.04
[01:14] <gr33n7007h> niriven, 1 sec
[01:15] <digitig> arrrghhh: No, not yet. I've had a routine package update running in the background, that's all. It's asking for a reboot, so I suppose I could let it have one. Back soon...
[01:15] <W4sp> niriven:  /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:16] <niriven> gr33n7007h: ah well guess i shoul dhave done: ls -R / | grep xorg.conf.d, found it
[01:16] <Budric> found a solution to my problem; killall process || echo 1 > /dev/null
[01:16] <niriven> W4sp: gr33n7007h thanks much appreicated
[01:17] <Xympa> So doesna nyone know a good guitar fx processor besides rakarrack?
[01:17] <gr33n7007h> niriven, where was it /usr/lib/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[01:18] <niriven> gr33n7007h: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:18] <gr33n7007h> niriven, ah, ok
[01:18] <niriven> gr33n7007h: guess i should have ls -R'ed it :)
[01:19] <someguy> I am having trouble getting an ATI 7970 to run 3 monitors in ubuntu 12.04.  Is it not capable of this?  I have been googling with no luck
[01:19] <gr33n7007h> niriven, or: locate xorg.conf.d
[01:20] <KatsumeBlisk> someguy: I'm no expert, but that's a really new card. Support might not be available yet.
[01:20] <someguy> KatsumeBlisk: 8^(
[01:21] <KatsumeBlisk> someguy: I don't know much about GPUs, so I could be wrong. I'm just saying that's a possibility.
[01:21] <Xympa> Are you running the proprietary drivers?
[01:22] <someguy> I installed the proprietary fglrx drivers, and can get 2 monitors configured in catalyst but it will not see my third monitor
[01:22] <icequeen> Hey, I set up a 16 GB linux-swap partition on my hard drive, but I still can't Hibernate. Do I need to do something to "connect" the Ubuntu partition to the swap partition?
[01:22] <Xympa> That's weird...
[01:23] <Xympa> If catalyst won't show it, then I guess there's nothing I can help you with...
[01:23] <digitig> arrrghhh: Ok, I'm back, and the reboot has fixed the terminal problem. Now, I'm planning to put the mount point in a more sensible place: /media/tim, probably. Is it /etc/fstab I should be editing, and what should I put in there?
[01:23] <someguy> Xympa: the fglrx (post-release updates) wouldn't install for me <shrug>  think that might help if I can get it to install?
[01:23] <arrrghhh> icequeen, do you see it in 'free -m'
[01:23] <usr13> digitig: What is on this mount point?
[01:24] <arrrghhh> digitig, ok.  this will get you started for fstab
[01:24] <arrrghhh> digitig, try this.  <IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/pools/A/A0/Tim /mntpoint nfs rw,soft,intr 0 0
[01:24] <usr13> digitig: Think of something that will be descriptic.  If it's Music, or Pictures, say so?
[01:24] <arrrghhh> usr13, i got this ;)
[01:24] <icequeen> arrrghhh I created the linux-swap partition in GParted
[01:25] <arrrghhh> icequeen, did you see the command i sent?  do you see a line at the end 'Swap:'?
[01:25] <arrrghhh> digitig, sorry change /mntpoint to /media/tim or whatever.
[01:25] <arrrghhh> digitig, if you find it slow, i can try to help with that... once you finish editing fstab you do sudo mount -a to process it
[01:27] <icequeen> arrrghhh ok I tried it. Swap: 0 0 0 shows up =\
[01:27] <usr13> arrrghhh: or just mount /media/tim
[01:27] <vaks> How do I change the bootloader screen in ubuntu?  I want windows to be on the top of the list and I want to change the background color obv
[01:27] <arrrghhh> icequeen, total is 0?  then it's not on
[01:27] <arrrghhh> usr13, he needs it in fstab ;)
[01:28] <arrrghhh> we've already mounted it manually....
[01:29] <arrrghhh> icequeen, there's this swapon command.  do you know where the swap space was created?
[01:29] <gr33n7007h> vaks, do you want to add a wallpaper to grub a start?
[01:31] <icequeen> arrrghhh http://i.imgur.com/Jl7Mb.png
[01:33] <usr13> arrrghhh: mount /media/tim would be to test the fstab entry for it.  (Just an alternative that does not require sudo)
[01:33] <arrrghhh> icequeen, in a terminal "sudo swapon -f /dev/sdb1"... i think
[01:33] <arrrghhh> usr13, oic.  i just use mount -a.  meh.
[01:34] <usr13> arrrghhh: you mean sudo mount -a
[01:34] <arrrghhh> yes.
[01:34] <arrrghhh> do you come in here to nitpick?  lol
[01:34] <usr13> arrrghhh: No, to help.
[01:34] <arrrghhh> k
[01:34] <icequeen> I think that worked! thanks arrrghhh
[01:35] <icequeen> <3
[01:35] <icequeen> usr13 what's the difference? I've only been using ubuntu 3 days
[01:35] <arrrghhh> icequeen, you're welcome.  :)  you want to add an entry to fstab.
[01:35] <icequeen> arrghhh how do I add an entry?
[01:35] <digitig> arrrghhh: That works fine, thanks. I've given each member of the family some space on the NAS to use as they like, and 'tim' is mine, so the name is descriptive enough. It seems quick enough on single files, but I don't know how it will be when I start shifting serious amounts of data (Windows took 3 days to move my son's photographs onto the drive)
[01:35] <arrrghhh> icequeen, we were talking about another issue.  my command processes all of fstab, and usr13's didn't.
[01:35] <icequeen> usr13 nvm I re-read what you wrote
[01:36] <arrrghhh> digitig, nfs is MUCH more efficient than samba/cifs...
[01:36] <arrrghhh> which is what windows is using ;)
[01:36] <icequeen> arrrghhh so I don't need to do anything else? or do I?
[01:36] <arrrghhh> icequeen, i imagine you always want to use this for swap space?
[01:36] <arrrghhh> if you reboot you'll have to do that again
[01:37] <usr13> icequeen: sudo mount -a   is an admin command to mount all mount points.  It looks at the fstab file and mounts all that it sees.   mount /media/tim  will just mount that one mount point, (but only if the fstab entry is correct).
[01:38] <arrrghhh> icequeen, if we want to do this the right way we'll need the UUID.  1 sec.
[01:38] <icequeen> Ok
[01:38] <arrrghhh> icequeen,  ls -laH /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[01:39] <gr33n7007h> icequeen, or just use blkid
[01:39] <usr13> sudo blkid /dev/sdx   will show what uuid of sdx
[01:39] <arrrghhh> oops i guess the h doesn't need caps.  please tell me jargon in teal is before ../../sdb1
[01:40] <arrrghhh> o sorry
[01:40] <usr13> arrrghhh: And yes, using the uuid will be a lot better.
[01:40] <arrrghhh> hah, that's a much better way
[01:40] <arrrghhh> to find the uuid i mean
[01:40] <arrrghhh> i always did that ls command... heh
[01:40] <usr13> arrrghhh: That way works too.
[01:40] <arrrghhh> indeed.  blkid is probably easier in this case.  thanks.
[01:41] <cr1st0> i installed ubuntu dual boot with windows it completed the install rebooted and doesnt do nothing now
[01:41] <arrrghhh> gr33n7007h, thank you.  i learn somethin new every day :)
[01:41] <usr13> cr1st0: It won't boot?
[01:41] <cr1st0> i chosed the 50/50 install it asks lunch startup repair or start windows normaly
[01:41] <gr33n7007h> arrrghhh, lol
[01:41] <usr13> what is a 50/50 install?
[01:42] <cr1st0> half ubuntu half windows 7
[01:42] <usr13> cr1st0: Oh, you mean dual boot?
[01:42] <digitig> arrrghhh: in /etc/fstab, do I just put single quotes around that share name that has the space in it? '<IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/pools/A/A0/Shared Storage' /media/tim nfs rw,soft,intr 0 0
[01:42] <cr1st0> yes
[01:42] <usr13> cr1st0: Sounds like you failed to tell grub to write to MBR of the primary drive.
[01:42] <usr13> cr1st0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[01:43] <usr13> cr1st0: but it can be fixed ^^^
[01:43] <arrrghhh> digitig, oh shares with spaces...
[01:43] <gypseh> hey is there a way to load my entire 10.04 rig from ram like have it sped dump the SSD contents at boot up?
[01:43] <arrrghhh> i think you have do do something really strange... 1 sec.  you have to "escape" the space if you will
[01:44] <usr13> \
[01:44] <arrrghhh> usr13, isn't it like \040 or something
[01:44] <arrrghhh> in fstab ^^
[01:44] <usr13> before the space, (but I don't know what your talking about really....
[01:44] <icequeen> gr33n7007h what is the blkid command?
[01:45] <digitig> arrrghhh: the drive came preconfigured with the share name with the space :(
[01:45] <usr13> arrrghhh: Did he use a mount point directory name with a space in it?
[01:45] <usr13> arrrghhh: If so, why?
[01:45] <arrrghhh> usr13, he just said why...
[01:46] <usr13> digitig: Why not just cahnge it?
[01:46] <usr13> *change
[01:46] <arrrghhh> usr13, you can escape spaces in fstab
[01:46] <arrrghhh> digitig, 1 sec..
[01:46] <usr13> To tell the truth, I don't know....
[01:46] <arrrghhh> usr13, i've done it
[01:46] <usr13> I just dont do it.
[01:46] <usr13> Ok
[01:47] <usr13> digitig: What is the name?
[01:47] <arrrghhh> i don't like to do it
[01:47] <usr13> What's the name?
[01:47] <arrrghhh> iomega storcenter ix2 nfs
[01:47] <arrrghhh> er
[01:47] <arrrghhh> minus the nfs
[01:47] <usr13> iomega\ storcenter\ ix2\ nfs
[01:47] <infidel> anyone know anything about sfs clustering filesystem?
[01:47] <arrrghhh> no
[01:48] <usr13> But you probably have to use quotes or something, I dono....
[01:48] <arrrghhh> \040
[01:48] <digitig> usr13: the drive came preconfigured with that share, and it's tricky to work out how to fix it. I think I will, though -- I can access the share from a Windows machine so I can move everything in it to a share with a more sensible name.
[01:48] <arrrghhh> digitig, so in lieu of a space, literally put \040
[01:48] <arrrghhh> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/fstab-space-in-mount-point-directory-names-846362/
[01:48] <usr13> Just change it to iomega-storcenter-ix2-nfs  Or iomega-nfs
[01:49] <arrrghhh> lol
[01:49] <arrrghhh> digitig, it will work.  don't sweat it.
[01:49] <arrrghhh> usr13, he's already setup a bunch of other clients from the sound of it
[01:49] <usr13> Oh,ok
[01:50] <usr13> Just seems to be such a messy way to do it but... oh well.
[01:50] <arrrghhh> it's not pretty, but it works.  and you only have to setup fstab once hopefull.
[01:50] <arrrghhh> y*
[01:51] <Ycarene> I installed the qtmobility dev package but a program that I'm trying to compile can't find any of the header files.  The files are there and it works if I link to them individually but I'd rather just have it find them where they're at.
[01:52] <digitig> arrrghhh: I've set up three Windows clients, but no biggie if I need to remap one network drive on each of them. Anyway, yes it works so I don't need to do anything. It's denying me access to /mnt/ext/USB_WD_My_Book_a_1, but that's yet another drive piggy-backing on the iomega NAS, so I suspect that's settings within the iomega NAS configuration.
[01:53] <arrrghhh> digitig, i would agree.  glad it's working :)
[01:54] <cr1st0> seems to be solved :)
[01:54] <Candlehawk> Hello, I have an issue.
[01:54] <pyoor> Hi all.  Has anyone had any luck getting the Novatel 551L (4G) aircard working in Ubuntu?
[01:55] <Candlehawk> Unity is glitchy with my dual screens.
[01:55] <Candlehawk> The GUI is showing up on both windows, and some of the graphics are not showing up
[01:56] <cr1st0> what's the diference between xfce session and xubuntu session?
[01:56] <Candlehawk> cr1st0: Default xfce as opposed to xfce as configured for default xubuntu
[01:57] <CyCreeper> I Love Ubuntu and I love Linux just wanted to say that lol :D
[01:58] <Candlehawk> THe forum post with my issue is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12162740#post12162740
[01:59] <aartist> I am using vncviewer  to see windows computer from ubutnu. Can I make the vncviewer size bigger?
[02:00] <infidel> are you using command line?
[02:00] <aartist> infidel: yes.
[02:01] <gr33n7007h> aartist, vncviewer -fullscreen ip port might work
[02:02] <digitig> arrrghhh: I'm glad its working too :) Many thanks for the help. I don't know why the external drive is denying access, but I'll try the iomega forum for that. Worst comes to the worst I can plug that one directly into the machine. I don't need that one on the network.
[02:02] <Candlehawk> Can nobody help me with this issue?
[02:02] <arrrghhh> digitig, alrighty.  take it easy ;)
[02:04] <mug> hello
[02:04] <mug> does anyone know how to install java for Chrome?
[02:05] <vaks> so my laptop battery life is waaaay less in ubuntu then it is in windows
[02:05] <aartist> gr33n7007h: I tried fullscreen option as you suggested. It hides every other window.  and I cannot use my keyboard on the screen anymore.
[02:06] <mug> vaks: try dimming the screen and changing the power settings to power saver
[02:07] <hoover_damm> is it possible to boot via PXE and configure the interface statically with Ubuntu? my Preseed currently hardcodes the network configuration as well as my kernel command line
[02:07] <hoover_damm> I also disable dhcp on the command line
[02:07] <hoover_damm> and yet it's still dhcp
[02:07] <gr33n7007h> aartist, hey?
[02:08] <usr13> aartist: You could change screensize
[02:08] <usr13> aartist: ... to match the screensize on the other PC
[02:09] <mug> .....
[02:10] <mug> ummm....
[02:10] <mug> a little help?
[02:11] <aartist> usr13: '...' ? there is no screensize option.
[02:11] <TrollingForSoup> Mug, what do you need help with?
[02:11] <mug> How do i install Java for Google chrome?
[02:12] <usr13> aartist: What do you mean there is no screensize option?
[02:12] <blarson> Is there any possibility of restoring files from an ext4 partition that was just reformatted?
[02:13] <aartist> usr13: with vnc viewer there is no screensize option.
[02:13] <mug> aartist: system settings then Displays
[02:13] <gr33n7007h> aartist, usr13 means change the actual screen resolution
[02:13] <aartist> gr33n7007h: ubuntu or windows?  Windows has max 1024x768
[02:13] <KatsumeBlisk> blarson: I'm not sure about the process, but I'd say it's possible.
[02:14] <mug> this is an Ubuntu help chat
[02:14] <gr33n7007h> aartist, ubuntu
[02:14] <KatsumeBlisk> blarson: Formatting means that the drive is writable again, but not necessarily wiped. THat's why you 0 out HDs when doing it securely.
[02:14] <arand> blarson: probably not, you might be able to extract a few bits and pieces using recovery tools like photorec or so...
[02:16] <usr13> aartist: Change either one you want to.
[02:16] <aartist> that works.., as it should. but I cannot use my keyboard.
[02:16] <wallnuts> Hi I've been trying to start another X windows/LXDE session on tty8 for a few days and can't seem to get it.  I got a shell on tty8 but I can't seem to start X, when I try X :1 i get and erro mesg saying display 0 is in use.  Does any one have any pointers?
[02:17] <mug> aartist: lol
[02:17] <mug> TrollingForSoup: hows it going?
[02:18] <ejv> hi guys, i have some rules im putting in /etc/resolv.conf but every reboot, they get wiped out, where's the proper place to put them?
[02:18] <Shirakawasuna> I'm having some trouble reinstalling all installed packages. I'm trying this - dpkg --get-selections > pkg.txt && dpkg --set-selections < pkg.txt && sudo apt-get -y dselect-upgrade
[02:18] <Shirakawasuna> and it just ends up running the standard 'upgrade' dialog and saying there's nothing to do
[02:18] <TrollingForSoup> It's going well.
[02:18] <Shirakawasuna> any ideas? I'm having issues with various things since switching back to xubuntu from ubuntu (I went xubuntu -> ubuntu -> xubuntu)
[02:18] <TrollingForSoup> Just ordered a "new" laptop.
[02:19] <jrib> wallnuts: startx -- :1
[02:19] <mug> TrollingForSoup: no i mean on trying to find how to install java?
[02:19] <aartist> BTW, I love ubutnu.
[02:19] <TrollingForSoup> mug, Just install Java in general, it should work in Chrome.
[02:19] <TrollingForSoup> Though I do recommend you switch to Firefox.
[02:20] <mug> ok!
[02:20] <aartist> What would the ftp solution from WinXP to Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> wallnuts: you can configure gdm to start another session for you
[02:20] <TrollingForSoup> So, other than Ubuntu, what distros should I put on my thinkpad once it arrives?
[02:20] <aartist> TrollingForSoup: mint?
[02:20] <TrollingForSoup> Meh, that's not much different.
[02:21] <TrollingForSoup> I'd prefer something outside of Ubuntu/Mint/Debian
[02:21] <TrollingForSoup> Yes, I know this is #Ubuntu
[02:21] <Shirakawasuna> archlinux
[02:21] <TrollingForSoup> \I just want ideas for other distros to mess around with.
[02:21] <TrollingForSoup> Alright, I suppose I can try that aagain.
[02:21] <TrollingForSoup> Something seems to go wrong with every install :/
[02:21] <gbear14275> anyone want to talk the merits/failures of better ubuntu support integration... including the possibility of crowd support bounties?  My mind is racing on the idea -->  #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:23] <wallnuts> jrib That gives me a screen flash, but goes back to the shell, errors are vesa : ignoring device with bound kernel driver
[02:23] <TrollingForSoup> I'll have a 32GB SSD, so
[02:23] <TrollingForSoup> I can probably have 4 distros max, and have breathing room.
[02:23] <wallnuts> xinit: connection to X server lost
[02:26] <jrib> wallnuts: anything interesting in /var/log/Xorg.1.log?  If you stop your login manager (and all X instances) can you startx without error successfully?
[02:28] <ejv> you must have a lot of time on your hands to use more than one OS
[02:30] <noob|2> does anyone have any good tips for setting up ubuntu?
[02:30] <root__> haha
[02:32] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[02:34] <docvell> QUESTION: Does anyone know where I can find the M.E.S.S. emulator for Ubuntu?  I don't need the rom images just the program (and a front end if possible)
[02:35] <wallnuts> jrib nothing jumps out on the log other than it's trying to use VT9 when I go to tty9 I'm getting two openvt errors....  openvt: exec failled: no such file or dir  and openvt: exec failed : permission denied I am running a sudo on the startx -- :1
[02:36] <jrib> wallnuts: no sudo
[02:36] <jrib> wallnuts: and umm are you sure it's not an issue with your xinitrc?
[02:37] <wallnuts> jrib same error with or without sudo where can I change it to run on vt8 instead of vt 9
[02:37] <jrib> wallnuts: try: startx -- :1 xclock
[02:37] <jrib> wallnuts: I don't know.  It should just grab the next available one
[02:40] <wallnuts> bad server option xclock  tried startx xclock -- :1
[02:40] <gr33n7007h> wallnuts, startx -display :1 -- :1 vtn
[02:41] <jrib> wallnuts: it should be "startx -- :1 xclock" iirc
[02:42] <jrib> wallnuts: actually that fails now for me too.    How do I change the permissions?
[02:45] <wallnuts> gr33n7007h, do I replace :1 with :vt8?
[02:46] <gr33n7007h> wallnuts, repleace :1 with :8
[02:47] <wallnuts> gr33n7007h, oh I c
[02:48] <LoRez> how can I get alt-` to not be handled by gnome?
[02:48] <wallnuts> gr33n7007h, just the same screen flash and the X server shuts down
[02:48] <Phosphate> Really stupid question... Anyone happen to know how to setup wpa_supplicant.conf for an open wireless network (no password)?
[02:48] <mcc> can anyone explain to me why there is a gcc-mingw32  package and also a mingw32 package in ubuntu?
[02:49] <mcc> it *looks* like, in 12.04, gcc-mingw32 installs version 4.6.3 and mingw32 installs version 4.2.x
[02:49] <mcc> but i'm not sure i'm reading this right
[02:51] <gr33n7007h> wallnuts, did u replace both :1
[02:51] <wallnuts> yeah progress, I think it's calling xterm which I don't have I made a link from xclock called xter and success so what should I launch
[02:52] <wallnuts> called xterm that is
[02:52] <wallnuts> I did get a clock
[02:52] <slackin> UNO MAS PARA PUG
[02:53] <jrib> wallnuts: create a ~/.xinitrc
[02:54] <MrUnkownGuy> I can't install java
[02:54] <MrUnkownGuy> im confused with the instructions
[02:55] <KatsumeBlisk> MrUnkownGuy: What Java are you trying to install? The official packages from Oracle were pulled because Oracle's a bunch of jerks. lol
[02:55] <DarkAceLaptop> My OS stopped booting, folders in root cannot be read from my 10.04 system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140412/
[02:56] <MrUnkownGuy> KatsumeBlisk: Version 7 Upgrade 5 Link: http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en
[02:56] <wallnuts> gr33n7007h, ops killed the wrong X and had to reboot
[02:57] <MrUnkownGuy> If you know a .deb file it would be very helpful
[02:58] <KatsumeBlisk> MrUnkownGuy: What are you using this for? It's easier to install the open sourceversion from the repos
[02:58] <MrUnkownGuy> oh i am trying to download a youtube video but the website says it needs java
[02:59] <KatsumeBlisk> run "sudo apt-cache search openjdk" to find the open source version. I don't use it, so I don't know the exact package name.
[03:00] <KatsumeBlisk> MrUnkownGuy: ^^
[03:00] <KatsumeBlisk> MrUnkownGuy: It'll tell you the package names but not install it.
[03:00] <Tux> MrUnkownGuy, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[03:00] <Tux> er
[03:00] <KatsumeBlisk> MrUnkownGuy: That's it ^^
[03:00] <KatsumeBlisk> I think
[03:00] <Tux> MrUnkownGuy, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre icedtea-6-plugin
[03:03] <tech1> when i try to shut down my pc it freezes at the shutdown splash screen and something in the pc turns off i can hear, maybe the psu fan.. but then case fan and cpu fan keep running with the image still on the screen... i tried sudo update-grub, then sudo poweroff but same thing.. is this likley to be a motherboard or harddrive issue?
[03:03] <wallnuts> Thanks for the help jrib and gr33n7007h I'm close
[03:04] <DarkAceLaptop> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140414/
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, fstab showed on the original script.
[03:05] <mcc> should i expect "file" for ubuntu to be able to distinguish a 32-bit Windows exe from a 64-bit Windows exe?
[03:05] <DarkAceZ> oh
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, the bootrepair boot info script
[03:05] <DarkAceZ> I see
[03:05] <mcc> i have here installed i686-w64-mingw32-g++
[03:05] <mcc> that name has both 64 and 32 in it
[03:06] <mcc> i do not know what to expect its output files to be
[03:06] <DarkAceZ> I made a forum post, but just like I thought, no help... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12163100#post12163100
[03:06] <mcc> if i compile a test program then use "file", i get: PE32 executable (console) Intel 80386, for MS Windows
[03:06] <KatsumeBlisk> mcc: Why are you needing a Windows exe?
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, can you give me a link to the thread.
[03:07] <DarkAceZ> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12163100#post12163100
[03:07] <mcc> KatsumeBlisk: I develop games. I wish to compile my games in a way that Windows users can play them. I do not have a copy of Windows at present.
[03:07] <KatsumeBlisk> mcc: That's a 32bit package whatever that g++ thing is. It's i686.
[03:07] <mcc> katsumeblisk: oh, that makes sense. thanks
[03:07] <KatsumeBlisk> mcc: I don't really know if I can help, but I was curious. lol
[03:07] <mcc> ah
[03:08] <mcc> mingw32 is a cross compiler, it is a version of gcc that creates windows exes
[03:10] <KatsumeBlisk> mcc: That's cool. I'll look into it. Now, we better stop talking about this since it's offtopic. :P
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, hard to say as far as answers the thread header should attract a few, some wont answer due to the jury rigged setup probably, hard to say.
[03:10] <mcc> well, i am in here specifically to ask about Ubuntu's official packages for the mingw32 project. So I may return to the subject in an ontopic way in a minute :)
[03:11] <Maccer> mcc: I'd recommend building your games using MSVC's LINK.exe in wine, or some other way via a build server.
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, best think in the future is have everything backed up including a clone of the OS.
[03:11] <DarkAceZ> okay
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> a clone would of reloaded in a matter of minutes, no harm done.
[03:13] <mcc> maccer: huh. that's kind of an interesting idea.
[03:13] <mcc> maccer: i'm actually really looking for a way to create msvc-compatible static libraries.
[03:14] <mcc> maccer: is msvc or at least cl.exe/link.exe known to work in wine?
[03:14] <mcc> huh come to think of it i kinda wonder if i could rent a windows instance on AWS or something...
[03:14] <Maccer> MCC: I believe so.  It doesn't require a lot of MS API's as it's only command prompt, I wouldn't see why.
[03:15] <mcc> maccer: well, at some point i assume you need to run the installer. but that's very interesting thanks...
[03:16] <Maccer> Yeah, most likely.
[03:16] <howardgrigg> hey guys - anyone know of a script to watch a downloads folder and if a file is an avi automatically convert it to a m4v?
[03:16] <Shirakawasuna> does anyone in here know how to get ubuntu to reinstall all installed packages? I've tried the standard listed --get-selections -> --sect-selections -> -y update --> dselect-upgrade and it simply states there's nothing to update. I've also tried the bash for loop option that's sometimes mentioned but it actually tries to reinstall things that I've *removed* as well
[03:17] <cronie2285> Anyone know how to switch window mangers on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ???
[03:17] <Maccer> That's interesting howardgrigg, no, I don't.  But if you're up for the job, you could write a python script or some shell script with cron job.
[03:18] <Maccer> cronie2285:  If you install via the official repositories and software center, it should appear under the session menu (where you login)
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140438/
[03:18] <mcc> howardgrigg: ffmpeg could do the conversion pretty easy, i don't know how to watch a folder tho
[03:19] <cronie2285> Maccer: thanks I'll be right back then
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, ah I see you have tried this method.
[03:19] <howardgrigg> Maccer, hah I am not up to the job sorry - I'm not a dev but I'm running a ubuntu server with plex and torrents but some of the movies won't play on the xbox and the processor isn't fast enough to transcode on demand
[03:19] <howardgrigg> mcc yea i was looking at ffmpeg but unsure how to do it...
[03:19] <Maccer> howardgrigg:  I see.
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, why do you need all installs reinstalled?
[03:20] <mcc> the way to use ffmpeg is: type "ffmpeg" followed by about 30 inscrutable arguments
[03:20] <mcc> look on google for a cookbook
[03:20] <luftikuss> I invoked '~$ LANG=C weechat-curses'. WeeChat opened. I invoked '/connect irc.ubuntu.com'. WeeChat responded: " irc: connecting to server irc.ubuntu.com/6667.. irc.ubuntu.com =!= | irc: unable to set local hostname/IP;  irc.ubuntu.com | irc: reconnecting to server in 10 seconds...". But WeeChat cannot connect. What is the reason? I could connect to this address yesterday, and I can connect to #ubuntu on the same computer using X
[03:20] <luftikuss> Chat though.
[03:21] <mcc> also, if you want to make an m4v you are going to need the mpeg4 extensions. due to patent issues, these are not legal in america, and so the debian/ubuntu packages are not in the official repos.
[03:22] <Maccer> Welcome back cronie2285.
[03:22] <cronie2285> Maccer: Yeap , that did the trick , THANKS !
[03:22] <Maccer> no problem o/
[03:23] <howardgrigg> mcc hmm ok - I'm looking forward to have this all setup and then not having to worry about it lol
[03:23] <cronie2285> I installed Kubuntu, now it works.
[03:23] <Maccer> My lazy ass would personally just make a simple shell script file {ffmpeg {parameters} *.extension}, and just execute it every five minutes, or at least add a test if the extension exists
[03:23] <howardgrigg> Maccer, that could do it
[03:24] <mcc> i could tell you how to do this on os x...
[03:24] <mcc> that is... totally useless to you
[03:24] <mcc> wait, i think linux might have an fsevents like mechanism too
[03:25] <mcc> yeah, look at this thing
[03:25] <mcc> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/
[03:25] <howardgrigg> yea, I'm currently on my macbook and could probably do it with automator and applescript but that's not going to work to well on the server
[03:25] <mcc> that link explains how to run a cron-like script on every modification of a directory
[03:25] <howardgrigg> yea looking hopeful
[03:31] <lifbrngr> Hello!
[03:31] <Maccer> o/
[03:31] <lifbrngr> I am seeking some assistance for a silly reason.
[03:32] <Maccer> Does it pertain to *ubuntu / linux?  Ah well, ask anyways.
[03:32] <lifbrngr> it pertains to ubuntu and windows on 2 dif partitions.
[03:33] <Maccer> Alright, what seems to be the problem?
[03:33] <lifbrngr> I'm trying to figure out how to link files for an app. I have read it can be done. but I dont know enough to do it.
[03:33] <Maccer> What do you mean by "link files for an app"?
[03:34] <lifbrngr> this may seem silly as I am a 35 y/o man... but I want my steam apps on my windows partion to link to the wine steam app.
[03:34] <TrollingForSoup> Do you mean symlink application data so that a program on both OSes can use it?
[03:34] <Maccer> Ah.  Yeah, I think that's what he wants/.
[03:34] <lifbrngr> save space and all as I already have them both.
[03:34] <TrollingForSoup> You can just point Steam in Windows to the spot where they're stored in WINE.
[03:34] <TrollingForSoup> Or vice versa
[03:35] <Partial_Upgrade> Hi, I just ran a partial upgrade on ubuntu lucid, now there's another partial upgrade. Is that normal?
[03:35] <lifbrngr> that is my delema
[03:35] <Maccer> Personally, I'd just run steam from the partition will all the games but... alright.
[03:35] <lifbrngr> How is that done?
[03:35] <TrollingForSoup> Well, I did something similar on my desktop running Xubuntu and Win7.
[03:35] <TrollingForSoup> Well, what I'd do.
[03:35] <TrollingForSoup> Assuming you mount all folders from both OSes on boot in either OS.
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> Is just install Steam, on the windows partition, to the Steam folder in WINE.
[03:36] <Maccer> Partial_Upgrade: Err... that completely depends.  I'm not sure.  You did skip two versions after all?  Maybe you need to upgrade some kernel files too?
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> So, install Steam in WINE. And put steamapps in there.
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> And then install Steam again on Windows, in the same partition.
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> OR something similar.
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> I can try to walk you through it in PM.
[03:36] <TrollingForSoup> If I remember how to do so :/
[03:37] <Maccer> So yeah, basically you want to read your Win parition's steamapp folder and what not?
[03:37] <lifbrngr> yes... maccer...
[03:37] <TrollingForSoup> Yeah, seems like.
[03:37] <Maccer> Sorry if I misunderstand you.
[03:37] <lifbrngr> I already have all my games installed on the windows partition.
[03:37] <Partial_Upgrade> Maccer: I think you're right, the computer crashed while updating kernal a few weeks ago, I guess that explains the partial upgrades.
[03:37] <TrollingForSoup> Though, why you'd run games under Linux is beyond me... As there's no reason to worry about compatibility issues when you could just reboot.
[03:38] <lifbrngr> True. and I have no problems doing that...
[03:38] <lifbrngr> I am however, getting tired of windows.
[03:38] <Maccer> Okay, well.  You have to remove the folder you want to link.  Then you have to do 'ln -s {windows location to folder} local_folder_name'
[03:38] <agentgasmask> lifbrngr: So just a simple: ln -s /path/to/steamapps/on/mounted/windows/partition  /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Programfiles/etc...
[03:39] <Maccer> ^
[03:39] <TrollingForSoup> I was too lazy to type that out, thanks XD
[03:39] <lifbrngr> I would run that in terminal...
[03:39] <lifbrngr> ?
[03:40] <Maccer> Well, I'm not sure about the default Ubuntu desktop environment has to offer, but yes generally.
[03:40] <lifbrngr> forgive a complete newby. thankyou for your help!
[03:40] <Maccer> np <3
[03:40] <Partial_Upgrade> Is there any good voice recognition software for Ubuntu 10.04?
[03:41] <TrollingForSoup> Yes.
[03:41] <TrollingForSoup> Except replace the first location with the actual one.
[03:41] <TrollingForSoup> Not sure where you mount the Windows partition to.
[03:41] <JC-PTY> guys, does anyone knows how to start x11vnc server from ssh in a remote ubuntu 12.04
[03:41] <Maccer> Partial_Upgrade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[03:41] <agentgasmask> lifbrngr: yes. So, say you have your windows partiotion mounted at /mnt, then the command would be ln -s /mnt/Program\ Files/Application\ Data/Steam/Steam\ Apps/etc.. /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/etc...
[03:42] <lifbrngr> ok.
[03:42] <Maccer> tl;dr: ln -s windows/steamapps steamapps
[03:43] <user> hi all
[03:43] <Maccer> Hello user
[03:43] <lifbrngr> the name of the mounted drive is outragiously odd... appears Hex... anyway to change that?
[03:43] <Maccer> It... what?
[03:43] <agentgasmask> lifbrngr: And like the others said, the "steamapps" directory under wine can't exist when you run the ln command (obviosly).
[03:43] <Maccer> Oh
[03:43] <lifbrngr> 9E94D90294D8DDB9
[03:44] <Maccer> That's just... yeah, there is some way to change that probably.  But that's just the serial name of it I believe.
[03:44] <lifbrngr> that is the name of my mounted drive.
[03:44] <Maccer> I'm not sure how you'd graphically change the name, but you could just mount it to a different folder of your choosing.  This is desktop environment specific.
[03:45] <Partial_Upgrade> File system label in Disk Utility changes the volume label.
[03:46] <agentgasmask> lifbrngr: It's not a big deal, you won't run into it much. But if you want to change it, type "mount" and see what device is mounted to 9E94D-etc.. Should be something like /dev/sda1 or so. Note that down. Next type sudo umount /path_to/9E94D-etc.. Next run: sudo mount /dev/sda1 (or what ever it was) /mnt.
[03:47] <agentgasmask> That will mount your partition under /mnt
[03:48] <lifbrngr> exelent.
[03:48] <ooldirty> ...
[03:49] <lifbrngr> know what?
[03:49] <lifbrngr> I think I just got it by making a link and draging and droping the link into my steam folder.
[03:50]  * agentgasmask tag next tech to help and head off to bed.
[03:51]  * agentgasmask makes the last sentence plural.
[03:51] <agentgasmask> lifbrngr: good luck. :)
[03:51] <lifbrngr> Thanks!
[03:51] <Maccer> I'm still here.
[03:51] <Maccer> lifbrngr: I'm not sure if that will work, but when in doubt 'ln -s'
[03:51] <TrollingForSoup> I'm always here.
[03:52] <luftikuss> '~$ LANG=C weechat-curses' opened WeeChat. I invoked '/connect irc.ubuntu.com'. WeeChat responded: " irc: connecting to server irc.ubuntu.com/6667.. irc.ubuntu.com =!= | irc: unable to set local hostname/IP;  irc.ubuntu.com | irc: reconnecting to server in 10 seconds...". But WeeChat cannot connect. What is the reason? I could connect to this address yesterday, and I can connect to #ubuntu on the same computer using XChat though.
[03:52] <lifbrngr> Good point.. lemme test. brb
[03:54] <Maccer> luftikuss: I'm not familiar with this client but after the forward slash, that's used to denote a channel, not a port.
[03:54] <lifbrngr> it most certianly did..
[03:54] <Maccer> lifbrngr:  Cool!
[03:54] <lifbrngr> What I did for future reference was navigate to the correct folder in my mounted drive.
[03:55] <lifbrngr> I right clicked on the folder I wanted a link of and selected Create link.
[03:55] <Maccer> luftikuss:  A port usually follows after the entire URI, so irc.ubuntu.com/example (+ for ssl)6667
[03:55] <Maccer> lifbrngr: Mh, not surprised.  Most DE's use links as shortcuts.  I just wish windows had extend symlink capabilities that extended beyond explorer.
[03:56] <lifbrngr> I then navigated to my steam folder on the .wine system and placed the link there. but not untill I renamed the origional folder ***.BAK
[03:56] <luftikuss> Maccer, I don't think that I need to a add a port number: Yesterday I did not need entering it either.
[03:56] <Maccer> Huh, actually it does exist.  Just not in a shortcut form.  It's called mklink.
[03:56] <Maccer> luftikuss:  Of course you don't, by default it will assign 6667.
[03:57] <Maccer> /6667 is not the port is what I'm saying
[03:57] <lifbrngr> Thank you all for your assistance in this matter.
[03:57] <lifbrngr> :)
[03:57] <Maccer> We love you too, lifbrngr. <3
[03:57] <lifbrngr> YAY!!!!!!!
[03:58] <lifbrngr> Now I'm off to theme some more android roms.
[03:58] <Maccer> By the way, I'm not even sure if irc.ubuntu.com works, because the channel is actually hosted on freenode.  Could be just a DNS redirection though.
[03:58] <Maccer> lifbrngr:  f'sho
[03:59] <luftikuss> Maccer, It is difficult for me to understand you. May be the reason is that my native language is not Englisch. I did not state that " /6667 is  the port."
[03:59] <luftikuss> -c
[04:00] <reasearcher123> All sites open except facebook,tatasky dont open on myPC. It just takes infinite time trying to open and never opens.Help please
[04:00] <Maccer> luftikuss: Ah, I'm sorry.  Try to connect:  'irc.ubuntu.org' or 'irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'
[04:01] <Maccer> reasearcher123:  Sounds like a DNS or another connection problem unrelated to Ubuntu.  Can you be more specific?  When did it start?  Was it always like this?
[04:01] <Maccer> Mh, tsk tsk tsk.
[04:06] <Idk2932984823428> Can someone help me with spmething?
[04:07] <Maccer> Of course, Mr. Idk2932984823428
[04:07] <Maccer> Or... Ms.
[04:07] <Idk2932984823428> Thanks lol mr
[04:07] <Idk2932984823428> I have a laptop using windows xp but i want to put xubuntu on it and get rid of windows os
[04:08] <Idk2932984823428> I already downloded the iso and the iso torrent
[04:08] <Idk2932984823428> And im trying to burn the iso to a disc
[04:09] <Maccer> Idk2932984823428:  Does this not work?
[04:09] <Idk2932984823428> The thing is when i put the blank disc in it doesnt come up
[04:09] <Idk2932984823428> Idk why
[04:09] <Maccer> What doesn't come up?
[04:09] <Idk2932984823428> The dick
[04:09] <Idk2932984823428> disk' LOL
[04:09] <TrollingForSoup> Are you sure your disk drive is working?
[04:09] <Idk2932984823428> Yea when i put it in i hear it spinning
[04:09] <TrollingForSoup> I know my crappy ASUS one sometimes doesn't detect blank CDs.
[04:10] <Maccer> ;)
[04:10] <Idk2932984823428> but it stops after like 10 secs
[04:10] <Maccer> Go in to the explorer / file manager, does it see the disk?
[04:10] <TrollingForSoup> If not, just use unetbootin.
[04:10] <TrollingForSoup> And a flash drive/
[04:10] <Idk2932984823428> whats that
[04:10] <Maccer> Err, do you see the CD/Disk in My Computer?
[04:11] <Idk2932984823428> I click my computer but it never shows up
[04:11] <Idk2932984823428> But my usb drive does
[04:11] <TrollingForSoup> unetbootin lets you turn flash drives into bootable "disks"
[04:11] <TrollingForSoup> I use it for OS installs.
[04:11] <Idk2932984823428> Can you link me?
[04:11] <Idk2932984823428> So i can download it
[04:11] <Maccer> Yep, just a warning though, USB Flash Drive installations will be a little slower.
[04:11] <TrollingForSoup> Just Google unetbootinl.
[04:11] <Idk2932984823428> I have patience lol
[04:11] <TrollingForSoup> Would USB3 still be slower?
[04:11] <Maccer> Or... by a lot.  It depends of course.
[04:12] <Idk2932984823428> Like will it take an hour or 2?
[04:12] <TrollingForSoup> Nah.,
[04:12] <Idk2932984823428> Longer?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !info unetbootin
[04:12] <TrollingForSoup> I installed Xubuntu in about 20 mins with a USB2 flash drive.
[04:12] <Maccer> TrollingForSoup:  I honestly don't know.  I think it probably depends on your flash drive read speeds.
[04:12] <Relondo> Okay, so I went to install Ubuntu on a computer after it had a Wubi install. I uninstalled Wubi, and booted a liveCD. Normally I get an easy-to-use graphical installer, but instead I'm prompted to
[04:12] <TrollingForSoup> Ew, Wubi.
[04:12] <Relondo> "Select device for bootloader installation"
[04:12] <Idk2932984823428> Does my flash drive have enough space trolling?
[04:13] <TrollingForSoup> Idk2932984823428, Is it 1GB or more?
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> Lol no
[04:13] <TrollingForSoup> It has to be over 700MB.
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> Ugh
[04:13] <TrollingForSoup> For the full install.
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> I have like 520 mb flash drive
[04:13] <TrollingForSoup> You can probably do minimal in less.
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> ---____---
[04:13] <TrollingForSoup> That's why I have like 20 8GB flash drives lying around.
[04:13] <Maccer> Is that a clean flash drive, or does it have files?
[04:13] <Relondo> Sorry, if anyone responded to my question, I got disconnected briefly.
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> Lol i have like 2 cds with 700 mb on them
[04:13] <Relondo> Can they repeat it, if they did?
[04:13] <Maccer> Relondo: I saw it, sec.
[04:13] <Idk2932984823428> but my cd drive isnt reading them -_-
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> Hm...
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Relondo:what are u trying to install
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> Do you have 120 floppy disks?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> lol troll
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> That would almost cover it.
[04:14] <Idk2932984823428> lol i dont have a floppy drive
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> 140 to be safe.
[04:14] <Relondo> lotuspsychje:  Just a normal Ubuntu 12.04 install.
[04:14] <Maccer> Relondo:  What are the options?
[04:14] <Maccer> And did you install Wubi inside of Windows?
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> Well, you can use Ubuntu server install on the 512MB, maybe.
[04:14] <TrollingForSoup> Not sure what size it is.
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Relondo:you want a clean install or dualboot?
[04:15] <TrollingForSoup> And then install xubuntu-desktop manually.
[04:15] <Idk2932984823428> How?
[04:15] <TrollingForSoup> I'll walk you through in PM.
[04:15] <Relondo> lotuspsychje: Dual boot.
[04:15] <Idk2932984823428> Ok lol
[04:15] <Maccer> Wubi can dual boot with it being on the same parition as Windows AFAIK.
[04:15] <Relondo> Maccer: I installed Wubi inside Windows, then uninstalled. And the options are: I have a window titled "Installation Type"
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Relondo:i hear sometimes win7 bootloader gets messy on ubuntu installs
[04:16] <Relondo> It lists my drives just like GParted does, but  prompts me "Choose Device for boot loader installation"
[04:17] <Relondo> lotuspsychje: It wants a drive for the bootloader. I guess what I'm asking is where do I put the bootloader? Do I make a new partition?
[04:17] <Maccer> Ah so you're installing this from the Live CD?  Well, from the partition manager you'd have to install it on some free space or on some other partition (which will overwrite)
[04:17] <howardgrigg> would Precise Pangolin run ok on a 1.5gHz dual core
[04:17] <howardgrigg> ?
[04:17] <Maccer> (The Live CD has an option like WUBI if you're ever unsure BTW)
[04:17] <howardgrigg> desktop version
[04:17] <Relondo> Maccer: Let me give you a screenshot. Second.
[04:17] <Maccer> howardgrigg:  I wouldn't doubt it.
[04:18] <howardgrigg> Maccer, cool
[04:18] <howardgrigg> :)
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> Relondo:loose win7 lol and full install ubuntu
[04:18] <SnapSnap> Is there a way to make the default chat client Pidgin instead of Empathy. Will it still be integrated into the desktop bar?
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> the live cd will not install wubi has not for several releases.
[04:18] <Partial_Upgrade> I completed a partial upgrade in ubuntu 10.04, now the update service doesn't update anything. It says fix the broken packages. Any ideas?
[04:18] <Maccer> SnapSnap:  I don't know about the first question, but it will be integrated, yes.
[04:19] <Maccer> As long as it's running, it will be there.
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !10.04
[04:19] <Relondo> lotuspsychje: That's not an option here.
[04:19] <Relondo> Maccer: Here: http://imgur.com/tnix7
[04:19] <SnapSnap> Maccer: So if I uninstall empathy and install pidgin it will integrate pidgin?
[04:19] <Maccer> SnapSnap:  All the time when Pidgin is running
[04:19] <SnapSnap> Maccer: Thanks
[04:20] <Maccer> Relondo:  That interface is for formatting and creating new partitions, if you select one of those disks, it will format and overwrite.
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, you have 4 primary partitions on that HD, the max allowed
[04:20] <Maccer> That's not his problem, no?
[04:20] <howardgrigg> noob question: if I install the desktop version onto a server without a screen can I vnc into it and use the GUI?
[04:21] <Maccer> Well, it is if he wants to make a new primary partition.
[04:21] <Relondo> Maccer: This just popped up through normal installation.
[04:21] <Maccer> howardgrigg:  I... doubt it.  I don't think it's configured for that purpose.
[04:21] <Relondo> Wilee-nilee: One of those is my flash drive running the live session.
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> Maccer, a extended so there is room for a swap would be prudent as a replacement for one of them.
[04:22] <howardgrigg> Maccer, what would you recommend?
[04:22] <Maccer> Relondo:  Yes, so what's the problem?  You don't know what to select to install?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> howardgrigg:if you install a desktop version, you can always vnc into it from another location
[04:22] <Maccer> howardgrigg:  Why can't you use a regular server or alternate CD?
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, look closer I see no sdb
[04:22] <Relondo> Maccer: Indeed. This is not the install screen I've been prompted with before.
[04:22] <Maccer> You can?  They put that in?  Well, that should answer your question howardgrigg, apparently it can.
[04:23] <Maccer> Relondo:  Hit back and see your options.
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, you have sda1,2,3 and 4
[04:23] <Maccer> Relondo:  There's three, either one, you write with windows, two overwrite something, or three something else (this screen)
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | howardgrigg
[04:24] <howardgrigg> I'm looking at buying the HP ProLiant MicroServer N40L but it doesn't have a display port and I'm not comfortable with using it only through the CLI
[04:24] <Maccer> You'll have to learn some time, plus, the CLI install isn't too bad.  It's quasi-graphical.
[04:24] <howardgrigg> i figured if I can vnc into it (just from my local network) then I can manage it like that
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> howardgrigg: its not recommended to install desktop version on a server (for server purposes)
[04:25] <Maccer> howardgrigg:  You could, of course.  Usually people don't buy micro servers for this purpose though.
[04:25] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: Not sure why this has so many partitions; I haven't created any. I don't think Wubi makes one, though, right?
[04:25] <Relondo> Maccer: My options are: "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" or "Something Elsee"
[04:26] <howardgrigg> hmm maybe i should have a look at the server version instead (scares me though…)
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> howardgrigg:better install the server edition, then install a vnc server on it
[04:26] <Maccer> Relondo:  Yes, I don't think it does.  If this is a consumer PC, then there could be a couple explanations on why these partitions are there.  I'd recommend you go in Windows and figure it out if you're not sure.
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !server | howardgrigg
[04:26] <Maccer> The first one could be the boot loader, others could be possible recovery disks.  Who knows.
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, looks like boot partition is sda1, OEM's quite often have 4 partitions
[04:27] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[04:27] <Relondo> Maccer: Okay. Hm.
[04:27]  * howardgrigg goes researching
[04:27] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: Alright, so do I overwrite sda1?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Relondo: to install win7 dualboot, many reccomend make a new partition from within win7 first, to install ubuntu on
[04:28] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Actually, I'm going to boot Windows and check it out. I'll be right back.
[04:28] <Golfgeo> setting up a specialised laptop, and would like a swap file at the beginning and end of the harddrive... But... Have read about hibernate problems when re-enabling it on a machine with multiple swap files... Any thoughts or how-to's for 12.04?
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, that is way to small and would crash the boot, is the computer completely backed up=cloned and do you have a install or recovery disc?
[04:29] <Golfgeo> *swap partition
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !hibernate | Golfgeo
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> Golfgeo: not sure what you wanna try to do, but hibernate problems should be solveable..
[04:30] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: Guess you're asking a bot to send me some info... didn't receive it though :D
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> Golfgeo:bot has no info on it so it seems
[04:31] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: read somewhere that the kernel on poweron can't see what swap partition the hibernated state is written on...
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> !swap
[04:32] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: read that one :)
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> Golfgeo:not sure about that, but im sure theres a solution for it
[04:32] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: but it states that 12.04 does it differently
[04:33] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: k :)
[04:33] <TrollingForSoup> I don't think I've ever had to use swap.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Golfgeo:maybe this can help? http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> brb
[04:35] <Maccer> If you're planning to use 4GB on a 64-bit computer or 2GB or less on a 32-bit, I'd probably suggest for you to use swap.
[04:35] <Maccer> As firefox + flash player leaks tons of memory, combined with other applications.  You could get around that though.
[04:35] <Maccer> The only I time I personally touched 2GB is when firefox leaked a gigabyte.
[04:36] <Maccer> (64-bit on 8GB)
[04:36] <Golfgeo> Maccer: I know haha, hate firefox for that specific thing
[04:36] <Golfgeo> love it too, but for other reasons :D
[04:36] <blake_> Question: My system load average is between 1.3 and 1.5 while idle. Is this normal?
[04:37] <kannudo> is there a way to burn the latest version of ubuntu onto a single CD? the iso for it is 701 MB and as far as i know cd's only go to 700 MB..
[04:37] <Golfgeo> lotuspsychje: read that one too :D
[04:37] <blake_> Can someone please explain 'load' ? My cpu and ram usage is low, but load is high. Why?
[04:38] <Maccer> Just curious blake_, how did you average CPU load on idle anyways?
[04:38] <blake_> kannudo the extra MB is iso information. It should burn to a single CDROM fine if you use the burning software's "Burn ISO Image" feature.
[04:38] <Golfgeo> kannudo: iso buring tools are smart... the 701 mb shouldn't be a big problem untill the tool states it is ;) so... just try :D
[04:38] <blake_> Maccer I type 'uptime' into terminal, and it shows me average load. In my past experience with Linux, anything over 1.0 is 'high'
[04:38] <kannudo> so powerISO will know what to do? coolness... i knew there was a reason i love computers!
[04:39] <blake_> kannudo Yes, it will work. But don't just burn the ISO to the CD, make sure you use "Burn ISO"
[04:39] <kannudo> thanks bunches.... gotta run!!!
[04:39] <ryanwong1030> kannudo: i never burn iso . just from hard disk.
[04:39] <hsidhu> hi I'm having a difficulty installing ubuntu. I've done it a million times before but this is a strange issue I'm having. My desktop has 2 hard drives (1 TB and 2 TB). The 1 TB hard drive has two partitions one of which has Windows 7 Installed. I cannot see my partitions in the "install" section of the installation process. Can anyone help me?
[04:40] <Maccer> blake_: I suppose that would be true on a server, but I've never had experience with desktop models.  uptime/top doesn't measure average load by just idling though, there could be tons of factors
[04:40] <Maccer> blake_: I suggest ask the guys at ##linux, tell me what they say.
[04:40] <steven_> supp guys
[04:40] <Maccer> And mention if it's a desktop or not.
[04:40] <blake_> Maccer thanks
[04:41] <hsidhu> Can anyone help me with partitioning issue for installing ubuntu? I cannot see my partitions on the ubuntu install :(
[04:41] <steven_> windows is wackk
[04:41] <Maccer> hsidhu:  One sec, reading.
[04:41] <steven_> windows suckss
[04:41] <steven_> odeee
[04:42] <hsidhu> Maccer: right now it shows 3 things. /dev/sda /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 ntfs 2000396 mb.
[04:42] <Maccer> hsidhu:  What do you mean?  You can't see any partitions on the 1TB hard-drive?
[04:42] <hsidhu> Maccer: right now it shows 3 things. /dev/sda /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 ntfs 2000396 mb.
[04:42] <hsidhu> Maccer: I don't know which one is my windows partition and which one is my second partition of my 1 tb hard drive
[04:42] <ryanwong1030> hsidu : using one hard-dreive
[04:43] <hsidhu> Maccer: I'm going to assume /dev/sdb1 is my second hard drive which is 2 TB in size
[04:43] <blake_> Maccer Is there a trick to getting +v in ##linux ?
[04:43] <Maccer> blake_: You don't need +v, why?  Just need to be registered.
[04:43] <blake_> Maccer, Ah. I'd better register then =)
[04:43] <Maccer> hsidhu:  I'm... not sure.  /dev/sdb tends to be removable storage, no?
[04:44] <Maccer> Well, /dev/sdb is the second SCSI, SATA, or USB disk on a computer.
[04:44] <Maccer> /dev/sdb1 is the third I presume.
[04:44] <hsidhu> Maccer: I'm not sure. If I go to the Home folder I can see my drives like I do in Windows. I see my 189 GB partition and 811 gb partition of my 1 TB hard drive. I also see my 2 tb hard drive. I want to install ubuntu on my 811 GB hard drive.
[04:44] <Maccer> /dev/sda is the first
[04:45] <Golfgeo> oke, decided on just one swap partition pfff! now to decided it on the beginning or end of disk haha
[04:45] <Relondo> maccer, wilee-nilee: So I found out that the 20 gig is my recovery, the 200meg is the "Active System Partition" the 600gig is my operating system and files, and the 100meg is "HP Diagnostic Tools".
[04:45] <hsidhu> Maccer: The installer is not telling me the size of the devices so I am not able to differentiate between them.
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, Yep standard oem install.
[04:45] <TaJMoX> Maccer by "registered" do you mean my name to be registered on NickServ?
[04:46] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: oem?
[04:46] <Maccer> hsidhu:  Go to ctrl+alt+f1, type in fdisk -l, maybe you'll get more information.
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, manufacturers install.
[04:46] <Idk8348394329442> Im back
[04:46] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: Okay, but just out of curiousity, what does it stand for?
[04:46] <Maccer> Original equipment manuf.
[04:47] <OerHeks> hsidhu, in your bios, is your hdd controller set to AHCi or IDE ? that could explain why linux does not see a partition
[04:47] <Maccer> Active system protection... sounds like some fancy made up name.
[04:47] <Relondo> Maccer: Thanks.
[04:47] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: So is the "System" partition the bootloader? Can I put Grub on there?
[04:47] <TaJMoX> Maccer after pressing CTRL+ALT+F1, how do I get back to X11?
[04:47] <Maccer> Ctrl+Alt+F7
[04:47] <hsidhu> OerHeks: I'm not sure should I go check now?
[04:47] <Maccer> Sorry. :P
[04:48] <hsidhu> OerHeks: What should it be set to.
[04:48] <OerHeks> hsidhu, check if it is set to AHCI yes
[04:48] <Maccer> TaJMoX:  Yes on Nickserv btw.
[04:48] <hsidhu> OerHeks: Should it be set to AHCI?
[04:48] <TaJMoX> Maccer I use CTRL+ALT+F5 usually..but how do I get back to GUI?
[04:48] <Maccer> Ctrl+Alt+F7, TaJMoX
[04:48] <TaJMoX> Thanks again Maccer
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, Go to the ubuntu forum if you can't get exacting help here, I believe the firm ware sda4, can be put in a extended, so that you can delete it and put a extended in with some shrinking of other partitions, for the ubuntu and swap partitions, I have seen that advised, but confirm this.
[04:49] <Relondo> wilee-nilee: Extended?
[04:50] <Golfgeo> lol, my current laptop offers some comfort :D There I've placed the swappartition in the middle of the disk haha
[04:50] <Idk8348394329442> Trollingforsoup im back
[04:50] <Maccer> I think he could safely delete some partitions as long as they're not for boot or interfere with any crazy application in Windows.  I'd do NTFS formatting in windows for safety though.
[04:50] <Golfgeo> I hate my life! hihi
[04:50] <TrollingForSoup> Hey, idk.
[04:50] <Idk8348394329442> Hey lol
[04:50] <Idk8348394329442> Did you find the link?
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, a extended partition allows you to use logical partitions and get past the 4 primary partition limit linux will run this way windows wont without some tweaking that I would not bother with, but supposedly the firmware partition sda4 can.
[04:51] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: ...so the System partition isn't the bootloader, then?
[04:51] <spupuser2> good evening folks.  just lookin for a way to disable right click on the desktop "8.04"
[04:51] <Golfgeo> installing it a bitch untill you're past the partitioning fase whahha
[04:51] <Maccer> Relondo:  Just check which partition has the boot flag or property set in gparted.
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, most like the boot is on both so you can run the recovery
[04:51] <Maccer> Extended partitions are also known logical partitions BTW.
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> likely*
[04:52] <s0126h> what is the command to add all the values in here:  http://pastesite.com/41360
[04:52] <Golfgeo> But guy's, thanks for the help with my questions! Me is off to the rubberwalled room I call my PC Lab ;) have a great day! :)
[04:52] <Maccer> Using the windows system recovery, you could write the MBR to your main Windows partition temporarily.
[04:52] <Maccer> Bai bai Golfgeo o/
[04:52] <Maccer> s0126h:  Context?  What is the output of this from?
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, we could see, but removing sda1 would mean you would have to do partition moving that may brick the windows.
[04:52] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Says the system partition is boot. Is it the bootloader, or something critical to Windows itself?
[04:52] <s0126h> maccer did you click the link?
[04:53] <jrib> s0126h: google "awk sum column" :x
[04:53] <Maccer> Relondo:  It's not necessarily critical, you can always change it.  But without prior modification, you'll need it to boot into Windows.  This would actually be a nice place to write GRUB in.
[04:54] <Maccer> s0126h:  Yes, I don't understand where this output is from.  Plain text?  Some CLI excel?
[04:54] <luftikuss> Yesterday I managed to communicate  via WeeChat 3.7.0 successfully. Today I obtain the message: "irc: unable to set local hostname/IP." How to get rid of it?
[04:54] <s0126h> maccer .txt
[04:54] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: But I need significant modification to boot Windows from GRUB on that partition, right?
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, hard to say exactly different manufacturers set them up differently, most likely it has the /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /  and is tied to the recovery
[04:54] <Maccer> s0126h:  Do what jrib suggests then, or something like this: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1497/using-awk-to-sumcount-a-column-of-numbers.
[04:54] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: This smells of an anti-Linux move.
[04:55] <Maccer> Not necessarily, just OEM proprietary bullshit.  Most likely for some tech support scheme.
[04:55] <Maccer> Err, my language.
[04:55] <Maccer> But yeah.
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, grub will pick it up it is whether you will be able to run the recovery I would worry about. Do you have a clone of the W& and a recovery or install disc?
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> W7*
[04:55] <Maccer> So you could put GRUB there, but now we have to know what we can free up to put that single logical/extended partition there.
[04:55] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: The install is brand new. I don't need anything off of it, so data loss isn't really an issue.
[04:56] <Maccer> Oh.
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, it is not data loss it is having a backup in case you can not access the recovery.
[04:56] <Maccer> Delete something that's not Windows 7.  Recovery partitions are things just to make the consumer feel like he has a back up plan for tech support.
[04:56] <Delta|Mac> Hi, I would like to know if there's any way to make these cards work under Alsa? ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 CMI8786 chipset.
[04:56] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: OS loss is, however. Can I redeem the serial number on the bottom of the laptop online for a download of Windows?
[04:56] <Maccer> So tech support can "recover" data from said partition.
[04:56] <Maccer> Delta|Mac:  It does not?
[04:57] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Oh, got it.
[04:57] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: no very limited infomation I can find out.
[04:57] <s0126h> what is the command to add all the values in here:  http://pastesite.com/41360
[04:57] <TaJMoX> Question: I installed Compiz Settings Manager to get the stupid wobbly windows, but compiz is using 10% cpu always now ... How do I revert to whatever it was before compiz?
[04:57] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: ...can I just get rid of HP Tools? I have no desire for their diagnostics.
[04:57] <Maccer> Relondo: Yes, I suppose.  Just don't delete Windows 7.
[04:57] <Maccer> Relondo:  I don't see why not.
[04:57] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Heh, well, that's a given.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, If it was me, I would clone it, remove the recovery partition, put a extended in its place and install ubuntu there.
[04:58] <spupuser2> good evening folks.  just lookin for a way to disable right click on the desktop "8.04"
[04:58] <Maccer> s0126:  Use AWK and read http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1497/using-awk-to-sumcount-a-column-of-numbers, or just google "awk sum column"
[04:58] <Maccer> spupuser2:  That's interesting.  You mean on the mouse or just on the desktop window?
[04:58] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: I don't have an external drive big enough to clone the drive to.
[04:59] <spupuser2> desktop
[04:59] <spupuser2> ty Maccer
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, clonezilla will only clone the data, and the mbr but needs a same size partition for reinstall.
[04:59] <Maccer> Relondo:  Why would you want to do that, for back up?  It's not like a recovery partition will do you any good when your hard-drive crashes
[04:59] <Maccer> "Recovery partition"
[05:00] <Maccer> spupuser2:  Hrm... this is on the default GNOME desktop, correct?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> most cloners do this, not a equal partition to partition save just a equal in size on the reinstall. Relondo
[05:00] <dadis> The proper way is to add an entry to /usr/share/xessions
[05:00] <spupuser2> looking at nautilus options
[05:00] <Maccer> spupuser2:  Here's a hack you could try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1176963
[05:01] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: I do not have a physical drive with enough capacity to hold the contents of the recovery partition. And a recovery partition would still do me good if Windows crashed. Obviously a crashed hard drive can't be helped much at all.
[05:01] <Maccer> spupuser2: Don't run that, I think that disables right click system wide though.
[05:02] <Maccer> Relondo:  Do you even know what's inside the recovery partition?
[05:02] <Maccer> Generally it's just some driver files and what not.  I think it's useless IMHO.  If my windows crashes, I'd use some live boot or pre-execution environment to get my files off.
[05:02] <spupuser2> Maccer, ur awesome.  and I am glad you are here in this chat
[05:02] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Not really.
[05:03] <Maccer> spupuser2: aww, thanks
[05:03] <jen> heeyyyy I know this is ubuntu but does anyone use MyPaint?
[05:03] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Ah. So install Ubuntu on the recovery partition?
[05:03] <Maccer> Never heard of it jen, sorry.
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, I would not mess with it tell you do have a cloned backup, or if you want to buy a disc and risk losing stuff in the future have at it. A recdovery partition is not the best insurance as well, it can get infected since it is on the same HD.
[05:03] <Pummel> Can anyone help me with this upgrade error... I've checked the forums and tried a lot but no success:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139039/
[05:04] <Maccer> Relondo:  This is what I would do if you want to save a copy of this "recovery" partition, hold on, let me look at your screen
[05:04] <disown> curious I am wondering is winbind and winbindd (the services) linux's service to make the linux samba software function as a domain controller. Essentially is all you need on your machine samba and windbind to make your computer into a linux domain controller ?
[05:04] <disown> I am almost 99% sure it is
[05:05] <Maccer> This recovery partition is /dev/sda3 (#3) is right, Relondo?  What about sda4 (#4)? http://i.imgur.com/tnix7.png
[05:05] <disown> looking at the packages with dpkg -L windbind  , apt-cache search ...etc
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Relondo, not install on the recovery partition remove it when you have a good clone and make a extended, where it was.
[05:06] <Maccer> disown: I'm unfamiliar with samba.  You could ask around in #debian, ##linux, or #ubuntu-server
[05:06] <Relondo> Maccer, wilee-nilee: Alright. Well, thanks to both of you for your help, but I'm out. See ya.
[05:07] <Maccer> Alrighty then!
[05:08] <Delta|Mac> Hi, I would like to know if there's any way to make these cards work under Alsa? ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 CMI8786 chipset.
[05:09] <Maccer> Delta|Mac: Ah right, so you said you don't know if this works (meaning you haven't tried)?
[05:09] <Delta|Mac> I've tried for many hour.
[05:10] <Delta|Mac> Could you help me understand, The card chipset says CMI8786 but lspci says it's 8788 ?
[05:10] <BentFranklin> I ssh from A to B using keys.  Now I want to ssh from C to B.  Do I run ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id again on C? Or can I just copy the private key from A to C?
[05:10] <Maccer> Ah, so it doesn't work.  According to the ALSA wikipedia it says: "This hardware has no volume controls; use PulseAudio. Front panel, HP, and microphones do not work. "
[05:11] <Maccer> BentFranklin: I think the existing key should work, yes
[05:11] <BentFranklin> Maccer: Thanks
[05:12] <Maccer> Delta|Mac:  Run this command in a terminal please: 'cat /proc/asound/version'
[05:12] <Maccer> Tell me the output.
[05:12] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: Thanks,although I have read some have it working on ubuntu which brought me here after installing ubuntu :)
[05:14] <luftikuss> Yesterday I managed to communicate  via WeeChat 3.7.0 successfully. Today I obtain the message: "irc: unable to set local hostname/IP." How to get rid of it?
[05:14] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: The version is 1.0.25 on kernel 3.2.0-29
[05:14] <Pummel> Can anyone help me with this upgrade error... I've checked the forums and tried a lot but no success:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1139039/
[05:15] <Maccer> Delta|Mac:  According to the wiki, it says you need 1.0.26.  Find a way to get that alsa version, or upgrade to 12.10 alpha.
[05:15] <Maccer> I'll help you in a sec Delta|Mac.
[05:15] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: Thank you.
[05:15] <Maccer> luftikuss:  Try connecting via 'irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'
[05:16] <rgenito> i'm running ubuntu 12.04 headless, and i just plugged in a usb flash drive
[05:16] <Maccer> Pummel:  Is there more to this output?
[05:16] <rgenito> ....and i'm kind of let down to see that it wasn't automatically mounted :(
[05:16] <rgenito> is there a package i need to install in order for my usb flash drives to automatically mount?
[05:16] <rgenito> (fuse usb something?)
[05:16] <TrollingForSoup> In UBuntu? You shouldn't need anything.
[05:17] <Maccer> rgenito:  udev, I believe.
[05:17] <Maccer> He's using the headless version.
[05:17] <rgenito> Maccer: what is this about udev?
[05:17] <rgenito> apt-get install udev?
[05:17] <Maccer> Yup.
[05:17] <rgenito> hmm, "udev is already the latest version" :|
[05:17] <Maccer> Hrm...
[05:18] <rgenito> udevd?
[05:18] <rgenito> ps aux |grep udevd  ... with this i can see that there are 3 instances of it running
[05:18] <rgenito> not sure if that is normal :D
[05:19] <Maccer> You can try autofs, rgenito.
[05:19] <rgenito> "autofs"?
[05:19] <Maccer> Yup.
[05:20] <rgenito> ah, i see afuse...
[05:20] <luftikuss> Maccer, '/connect irc.ubuntu.com' obtains: "irc: unable to set local hostname/IP."
[05:20] <Maccer> luftikuss:  Try the command
[05:20] <rgenito> ty Maccer, ima try this out :D
[05:20] <Maccer> '/server irc.ubuntu.com'
[05:20] <Maccer> If this does not work luftikuss, attempt: 'irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'
[05:21] <crimsonmane> luftikuss: also try "/newserver <servername>
[05:22] <crimsonmane> if using xchat, press CONTROL S for the easy way
[05:22] <Maccer> He's using weechat.
[05:22] <Maccer> Delta|Mac: Alsa 1.0.26 hasn't come to the repositories yet.  You might have to compile your own or use a custom .deb package
[05:23] <Maccer> rgenito:  You could also try psydm which is graphical.
[05:23] <luftikuss> Maccer, '/server irc.ubuntu.com' obtains: "iirc: unknown option for "server" command"
[05:23] <TrollingForSoup> You know, I should probably use a vhost...
[05:23] <TrollingForSoup> Anyone kind enough to tell me how?
[05:23] <TrollingForSoup> I forget; it's been awhile.
[05:24] <Maccer> Err, do you have one requested for freenode?
[05:24] <TrollingForSoup> Nope.
[05:24] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: I have attempted but failed.
[05:24] <TrollingForSoup> How would I do that?
[05:24] <Maccer> TrollingForSoup: Ask on ##freenode I believe.  But they only hand it out for a select people.
[05:25] <rgenito> Maccer, know out to get autofs to automatically mount mah sheit? @_@
[05:25] <icequeen> Is there a way to detect on which (of two) hard drives Grub is installed?
[05:25] <Maccer> Delta|Mac:  Your sound card has experimental support in Linux which is only available in alsa ALSA 1.0.26 (not released yet) and Kernel 3.5
[05:26] <Maccer> luftikuss: try '/connect irc.freenode.net/ubuntu'
[05:26] <Delta|Mac> Maccer: Thank you for the information. I have no idea on how to obtain or upgrade to 1.0.26 or kernel 3.5. Which I'm googling for 1.0.26 but can't find infomation.
[05:27] <physically_fit> who here speaks turkish, help me translate 4 words. thanks.
[05:27] <Maccer> Delta|Mac:  It should come out soon.  But not now obviously.
[05:27] <hsidhu> My hard drive was set to IDE mode and I just changed it to AHCI. I am not able to see my windows partition in the "install section". All it says is /dev/sda
[05:27] <hsidhu> I also removed my 2 tb hard drive
[05:28] <hsidhu> so now it's just my 1 TB hard drive with 2 partitions
[05:29] <luftikuss> crimsonmane, '/newserver irc.ubuntu.com' obtains: "Error: unknown command "newserver"."
[05:29] <hsidhu> Maccer: I removed my hard drive. I changed from IDE to AHCI. Now all i see is /dev/sda
[05:29] <Pummel> Maccer - yes, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140522/ for the whole thing...
[05:30] <icequeen> Hi, is there anyway to find out where Grub is installed?
[05:30] <luftikuss> Maccer, This obtains: " irc: unable to create server "irc.freenode.net/ubuntu"."
[05:31] <luftikuss> icequeen, Use locate
[05:31] <Maccer> hsidhu:  I didn't suggest that, lol.  I have no clue then.
[05:31] <luftikuss> icequeen, »locate« is a command.
[05:31] <hsidhu> Maccer: :(
[05:32] <icequeen> luftikuss just "locate grub"?
[05:32] <luftikuss> icequeen, yes.
[05:32] <Maccer> Pummel:  Give me a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.lst file
[05:32] <Maccer> (the output)
[05:32] <physically_fit> !tu
[05:32] <physically_fit> uh
[05:32] <physically_fit> !es
[05:32] <physically_fit> !tr
[05:33] <icequeen> luftikuss okay, I ran the command but it doesn't tell me whether it's on sda or sdb.
[05:35] <Pummel> Maccer:  Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140524/
[05:36] <Golfgeo> Me is back :)
[05:37] <Golfgeo> got another question
[05:37] <Maccer> Pummel:  Try running 'sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*'
[05:37] <Golfgeo> does the filemanager of ubuntu (xubuntu for this install) use MB or MiB?
[05:37] <Maccer> Pummel:  And then 'sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update'
[05:39] <Maccer> If that fails Pummel:  Give me the output on /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:40] <hamiltont> Does anyone else notice the "restart" option missing from the networking service in 12.04 server?
[05:40] <hamiltont> It's got start and stop, but no restart
[05:40] <Maccer> That would be odd.
[05:41] <Pummel> Maccer:  That file is huge, you want the whole thing?
[05:42] <hamiltont> Looking at the init.d script - I'm seeing the case for force-reload and restart is still there, but it's got a log_warning_msg "Running $0 $1 is deprecated because it may not enable again in some interfaces"
[05:43] <Maccer> That depends how huge... if we're talking about 500+ for approximation, give me lines 1-100.  I assume it didn't work?
[05:43] <Pummel> No, it didn't and I'm sure it's more than 500 lines
[05:43] <hamiltont> Ok…it seems to run with the restart option. Should my SSH session stay alive? That's kind of awesome.
[05:43] <Pummel> What specifically are you looking for in the first 100 lines so I can make sure I get it
[05:43] <Maccer> 1-100 will do, I suppose.  I just need lines around #2
[05:44] <Maccer> Again, I just need an approximation.  There's an issue with #2
[05:44] <Maccer> Actually uhh.
[05:44] <KatsumeBlisk> Anyone use Grive for Google Drive? If so, how is it as an alternative until Google (hopefully) releases a client?
[05:44] <Maccer> Pummel:  If you could find lines that contain either "libasound2" or "UsePackage2"
[05:45] <Pummel> ok, will start looking now
[05:45] <Maccer> Package: libasound2 maybe
[05:51] <bond_> the command is asking for password prompt. How to avoid it?---> echo 'mypassword' | sudo bash script.sh
[05:51] <Pummel> Maccer:  here you go... is it the " between ok and installed?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140542/
[05:51] <Maccer> How to avoid the prompt?  That would depends on how it works
[05:52] <Maccer> Pummel:  Replace that line with 'Status: install ok installed'
[05:53] <Maccer> Save and attempt to update
[05:53] <Pummel> ok
[05:53] <bond_> Maccer: i am calling that command from a script. Any way to avoid password prompt?
[05:54] <myke_> Question: Would an AMD 7850 work well in ubuntu 12.04 by chance?
[05:54] <Maccer> bond_, the sudo prompt right?  No, I don't think so.
[05:54] <Maccer> You'll have to run the script as root before hand to avoid it
[05:55] <bond_> Maccer: the script is being called from java pogram. I am running java program as sudo.. still it isnt working
[05:55] <Maccer> Oh, so you need java to call it as root or sudo?
[05:55] <bond_> yes Maccer
[05:56] <lingolatz> Hello all, I am doing a survey as part of a high school project. I need some Linux users to complete the survey. The survey takes less than three minutes. If you can, the survey is found at: fluidsurveys.com/surveys/lingolatz/linux-questions-for-linux-users/
[05:56] <gr33n7007h> unity --reset unity --replace
[05:56] <Maccer> Two options, 1. run the java program as root. 2. Use a graphical sudo prompt like 'gksudo' (but you'll still have to input your password)
[05:57] <bond_> Maccer: 2nd option not feasible and already done 1st option.. its not working.
[05:58] <Benkinooby> will hyperthreading technology in CPUs make a difference for linux?
[05:58] <Pummel> Maccer:  That fixed the initial problem :)  The reason it got that way was it crashed out of an upgrade from 11 to 12 and I just haven't been working on fixing it until now
[05:58] <Maccer> Benkinooby:  Possibly, why would it not?
[05:58] <Maccer> Pummel:  Oh, I guess that makes some sense.
[05:59] <Maccer> bond_, mh... I'm not sure there.  You could also try setting the setuid bit of the shell script to root, but that's extremely dangerous.  Ask on #linux, they should know more about this topic
[06:00] <Maccer> If you do the setuid method, anyone will be able to run it as root.
[06:00] <myke_> Question: Would an AMD 7850 work well in ubuntu 12.04 by chance?
[06:00] <bond_> Maccer: i am the only user\
[06:00] <crimsonmane> myke_: did you check the hardware compatibility list?
[06:01] <Maccer> bond_: Still.  Anything or anyone can run it.
[06:01] <bond_> true
[06:01] <bond_> anyway thanks :)
[06:01] <Maccer> Even lindsay.lohan.naked.sh or /usr/bin/explicit-content
[06:09] <Pummel> Maccer:  Now I get this error when I try to upgrade the files I have... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140549/   is this hopeless?
[06:11] <Maccer> Pummel:  Uhh, I don't see an error, just warnings.
[06:11] <Maccer> Did you paste the entire thing?
[06:12] <Pummel> yes
[06:12] <Maccer> And segmentation faults... that's not good.
[06:13] <Maccer> Paste all the package containers from /var/lib/dpkg/status that dpkg complains about
[06:14] <Pummel> those 3 (2 are the same) ok
[06:14] <Maccer> Try 'sudo dpkg -P apg  && sudo dpkg -P git-core && sudo dpkg -P speech-dispatch'
[06:17] <Maccer> http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debianproblem.htm (Rescue using dpkg) could be possibly of use
[06:18] <Pummel> Maccer:  Here is the info for apg from the status file - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140558/
[06:18] <Maccer> Did you try that (those) commands?
[06:18] <Pummel> doing it now
[06:20] <Pummel> it gave me two warnings but no errors
[06:21] <Pummel> Here it is... :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140561/
[06:21] <tech1> im making a script that does lots of things including installing multiple software packages, instead of in the script doing "sudo password apt get" for each one, is there a way to declare the whole script a sudo?
[06:22] <tech1> and when on some of them there is a Y/N confirmation prompt, will that confirmation be redirected to the terminal i run the script from? or how could i automaticaly make the script say Yes
[06:23] <trijntje> tech1: apt-get install package -y
[06:23] <tech1> ill try that thanks
[06:23] <trijntje> and I think sudo has a memory of 15 min I think, so if the script runs for a few minutes it should be no problem
[06:23] <tech1> ahhh i see. thats good to know thanks :)
[06:24] <ParkerR> What's the "Addition drivers" program name if I were to start it from terminal?
[06:24] <ParkerR> *Additional
[06:24] <trijntje> jockey
[06:24] <ParkerR> Thanks
[06:25] <Maccer> Pummel:  I really recommend you check out that debian page though, can I see a copy of git-core though?
[06:27] <Pummel> Maccer:  There is no more error of git-core.  You still want me to search for it and past it?
[06:27] <Pummel> of = for
[06:27] <Maccer> Oh, nah that's alright.  What about upgrading?
[06:27] <Pummel> is that in the link you gave me?  I'm going to go read that now
[06:28] <icequeen> Hi, does anyone here have experience with installing the BURG bootloader?
[06:28] <oldwzd> grub?
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, yes
[06:30] <icequeen> oh hey wilee-nilee! by the way, I never got the chance to thank you for your extraordinarily help and advice the other day. everything went very well!
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, now problem, did you install burg and it is not showing?
[06:31] <icequeen> when I boot up my computer, grub pops up and I can choose between windows and ubuntu. i just tried to install burg but grub still pops up [wilee-nilee]
[06:32] <wilee-nilee> iceq you have to load it to the mbr sudo burg-install /dev/sdX  X is the HD make sure that is correct sudo fdisk -l will identify the HD no partiton numbers just the sdX
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, so it could be sda or sdb...etc depending on how many HD's you have.
[06:33] <luftikuss> icequeen, '~$ mount'. Look for a single ' / '.
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, I missed your full nick on the instructions, oops.
[06:34] <icequeen> wilee-nilee http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140571/
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, so make sure it is installed since you wil be over writing the mbr.  sudo burg-install /dev/sdb  the run sudo update-burg   and the partition list should show.
[06:36] <yam_> hey how an i send private message in forums chat?
[06:37] <icequeen> wilee-nilee command not found
[06:37] <icequeen> wilee-nilee i've been trying with the Burg manager
[06:37] <nothingspecial> do you mean the web chat interface yam_
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, which one the install is a standard command if you were loading grub to the mbr it would be sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[06:38] <icequeen> "sudo: burg-install: command not found"
[06:39] <yam_> I want to send a message to specific person who is online in forum. dont like to write whole the conversation in public chat.
[06:39] <nothingspecial> send a private message on the forums yam_ by right clicking the username or do you want to do it in irc
[06:40] <icequeen> "sudo: burg-install: command not found (wilee-nilee)
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, you running this in the terminal with the burg manager closed.
[06:41] <icequeen> wilee-nilee yes
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, I have to wonder if you have burg actual installed run sudo apt-get install burg
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> actually*
[06:42] <yam_> nothingspecial  cant see any option for private messageing in right click
[06:44] <nothingspecial> in irc you would type /msg whoever but most people don't like pms and might ignore them. You should ask first.
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, here is what I have installed from synaptic
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> http://imagebin.org/224156
[06:46] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, my burg setup gets loaded by adding it from a multi loader usb loader so I'm not sure what is in the repos.
[06:46] <icequeen> wilee-nilee I will reboot
[06:47] <voldyman> i ran this command by mistake http://pastebin.com/YkLbVbDR now when ubuntu loads it shows kernel panic message.
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, did you load it and get the grub.cfg partition list with the update?
[06:48] <wilee-nilee> burg list that is doh
[06:50] <icequeen> wilee-nilee how do you know it's sdb and not sda?
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, Your link showed linux in the sdb HD.
[06:51] <theadmin> Alright, I have a *big* problem here: FATAL: Error inserting wl (/lib/modules/3.2.0-29-generic/updates/dkms/wl.ko): Invalid argument
[06:51] <theadmin> It used to work until today morning -_-
[06:51] <theadmin> And without it my wireless ain't working.
[06:51] <voldyman> guys can any one help. i ran http://pastebin.com/YkLbVbDR by mistake
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, from your link /dev/sdb2   *        2048   943218687   471608320   83  Linux  sdb is the HD sdb1 is the partition, you are just goint to load the HD sdb
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> going*
[06:55] <voldyman> guys i cant run ubuntu cuz i ran `sudo apt-get purge $(dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | head -n -1) --assume-yes` by mistake
[06:56] <theadmin> !danger
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> icequeen, you might need to install the burg ppa to get all the packages for 12.04
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/burg
[06:56] <theadmin> voldyman: Basically, you removed your kernel. Chroot into your install from a livecd and reinstall it.
[06:58] <linuse> hey there
[06:58] <theadmin> Ugh. Any help with broadcom's "wl" module not loading?
[06:58] <linuse> my desktop just burnt
[06:58] <theadmin> It's installed from the bcmwl-kernel-source package.
[06:58] <linuse> I just got the hard drive
[06:58] <linuse> O was wondering if I could get the mac address from the log file?
[06:58] <linuse> I had ubuntu jaunty on it
[06:59] <linuse> anyone know if the mac address could be anywhere?
[07:00] <trijntje> linuse: you are not making sense, what mac adress? You were talking about your harddisk before
[07:00] <Hx12021> hey
[07:00] <linuse> well I have the hard drive of the machine
[07:01] <linuse> and I wanna get the mac address of the machine from the drive
[07:01] <linuse> I was wondering if it could be anywhere on the drive?
[07:01] <Hx12021> i need some help with my new ubuntu installation
[07:01] <trijntje> linuse: computers done have a mac adres, do you mean the mac adres of the internet card?
[07:01] <Hack_SYP> hello
[07:01] <Hx12021> heyyy
[07:01] <linuse> yeah the eth1
[07:01] <linuse> the computer is burnt
[07:02] <linuse> so the drive is my only hope
[07:02] <Hack_SYP> ´ó¼ÒºÃ
[07:02] <Hx12021> anyone here to have a fun chat?
[07:02] <trijntje> linuse: why do you need to know the mac adres? You could look in the logs of your router
[07:02] <Hack_SYP> yeah
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> Hx12021, chat is in #ubuntu-oftopic
[07:02] <theadmin> I'll try rebooting...
[07:02] <Hx12021> ohh sorryyy
[07:03] <linuse> I dont have any router it was plug on a large network
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:03] <linuse> and it was a while ago
[07:03] <Hx12021> hey is it safe to chat in irc channels?
[07:03] <Hack_SYP> ok Can I see the speech
[07:04] <linuse> trijntje: do you know any log that could contain the eth1 mac address?
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> Hx12021, some yes this is support
[07:04] <Hack_SYP> oh please
[07:05] <Hack_SYP> wilee-nilee   i
[07:05] <Hack_SYP> i need some help
[07:05] <Hx12021> what do u wanna know ?
[07:05] <linuse> dmesg maybe?
[07:05] <Benkinooby> hi, where can i get advice if i want to buy a new desktop computer for ubuntu? (to avoid driver or compability issues)
[07:05] <Josh3573458347> Can someone help me install xubuntu on my laptop?
[07:05] <trijntje> linuse: i don't know, sorry. Try some of the files in /var/log
[07:06] <Josh3573458347> It has to be the 64 bit version
[07:06] <Josh3573458347> Hello?
[07:07] <Hack_SYP> hello
[07:07] <Hx12021> hey benkinooby.as far as i know.most of the hardware are supported in ubuntu
[07:07] <Hack_SYP> josh3573
[07:07] <Hx12021> just make sure you avoid prolink modems
[07:07] <Josh3573458347> Can you help ,e
[07:07] <Benkinooby> Hx12021, that's the theory :P
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, here is the ubuntu install wiki xubuntu is the same.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[07:07] <Josh3573458347> I need help to put Xubuntu on my laptop
[07:08] <Josh3573458347> Can someone guide me through how you do it?
[07:08] <Hack_SYP> i can Try to help you
[07:08] <Josh3573458347> Ok
[07:08] <Hx12021> describe more about the purpose of purchasing the new machine
[07:09] <Hack_SYP> Hx12021
[07:09] <Hack_SYP> can you seek my speak
[07:10] <chemick> how to use nmap to find open ports?
[07:10] <Hx12021> Avoid intel graphic cards,prolink modems,and some old models of canon printers
[07:11] <Hack_SYP> oh no no no
[07:11] <Hx12021> y not?
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> chemick, try #nmap
[07:12] <chemick> wilee-nilee thx
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> chemick, no problem small channel but it is their baby.
[07:14] <peetaur2> chemick: I would point you to "man nmap" rather than a channel.
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, trying to guide someone through a install can turn into a long drawn out affair, do you have whatever OS that is on there completely backed up like a clone?
[07:15] <Josh3573458347> Can someone help me?
[07:15] <Josh3573458347> Is there anyone here?
[07:16] <Josh3573458347> Hello???
[07:16]  * peetaur2 is not here
[07:16] <theadmin> Ugh. Why the heck was the backports repo enabled by default on Kubuntu?!
[07:16] <peetaur2> !ask
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, look above your last post
[07:16] <theadmin> I think that's why broadcom broke..
[07:16] <Josh3573458347> oh sorry
[07:16] <Josh3573458347> I need help to put xubuntu on my laptop
[07:16] <Josh3573458347> it has to be through a flash drive cause my disc drive is broken
[07:17] <dvolker> what's an acceptable sysadmin salary for someone coming from the windows side of things?
[07:17] <theadmin> dvolker: That's offtopic
[07:17] <theadmin> Josh3573458347: There's a guide on ubuntu.com for that.
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, do you have whatever OS that is on the computer now completely backed up, preferably a clone?
[07:17] <Josh3573458347> It had windows xp but its gone now
[07:18] <Josh3573458347> I did something wromg and put unbuntu server on it
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, so all you want and need is xubuntu
[07:18] <Josh3573458347> Yea
[07:18] <bekks> Josh3573458347: Why should that be wrong?
[07:18] <Josh3573458347> Because i want the os
[07:18] <Josh3573458347> not server
[07:18] <bekks> "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[07:18] <Josh3573458347> huh?
[07:19] <bekks> One command, and you'll get xubuntu.
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, boot a xubuntu disc hit instal and follow the instructions, I would open the gparted partitioner before hitting the install and just delete any partitions first.
[07:19] <Josh3573458347> i cant boot with a disc
[07:19] <bekks> wilee-nilee: No need for reinstalling.
[07:19] <Josh3573458347> it has to be with a usb drive
[07:19] <bekks> Josh3573458347: Log in, and issue that command.
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> bekks, ?
[07:19] <peetaur2> Josh3573458347: as bekks implies, the only differences between xubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu server, etc. are packages selected.
[07:19] <bekks> wilee-nilee: HE has to issue ONE command to get xubuntu.
[07:19] <Josh3573458347> i tryed to select the right package
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> Josh2838383, then boot the usb and do the same
[07:20] <Josh3573458347> it sends me back to the server
[07:20] <theadmin> ugh. Is there any channel for *normal* Ubuntu problems instead of this newbie stuff -_-
[07:20] <theadmin> Because I'm in a rush
[07:20] <peetaur2> theadmin:  :D
[07:20] <Josh3573458347> sorry -_-
[07:20] <bekks> Josh3573458347: What does "it sends me back" mean?
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> bekks, basically .
[07:20] <Josh3573458347> Like when i try to reinstall the whole thing
[07:20] <bekks> Josh3573458347: Did you log in with the user you created, and issued the command I gave you?
[07:20] <theadmin> Josh3573458347: Basically, log in and run "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[07:21] <Josh3573458347> i dont know how to log in though
[07:21] <Josh3573458347> it never works
[07:21] <theadmin> Josh3573458347: Uh, when you boot it displays something along the lines of "HOSTNAME login: ", just type your username in
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> bekks, The user was asking for a install I have no info about a install already, but thanks for sharing.
[07:21] <Josh3573458347> It doesnt say host name
[07:22] <Josh3573458347> it says the name of my wifi network
[07:22] <theadmin> Josh3573458347: It can say whatever.
[07:22] <Josh3573458347> I type in my username though
[07:22] <Josh3573458347> and it doesnt work
[07:22] <bekks> Josh3573458347: Then you are typing the wrong password.
[07:22] <Josh3573458347> it doesnt let me type a password in
[07:23] <Josh3573458347> after i type my username in it doesnt let me type a password in
[07:23] <Josh3573458347> and after a few secs it says incorrect
[07:23] <theadmin> Josh3573458347: It won't show anything, it does let you type it in.
[07:23] <bekks> After booting your computer - can you please take a screenshot with your mobile phone or something?
[07:23] <caixa> what is Wayland System Compositor
[07:23] <Josh3573458347> bekks ok
[07:23] <Josh3573458347> how do i send it to you
[07:23] <bekks> By uploading it somewhere.
[07:24] <Meikel> Good Morning guys !  I have no idea how to install the broadcom-sta package either.
[07:28] <gr33n7007h> theadmin, apt-get install broadcom-sta-common
[07:28] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Wish it was so simple, it doesn't auto-build the module -_-
[07:29] <gr33n7007h> theadmin, You on 12.04
[07:30] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Yes
[07:30] <gr33n7007h> why dont you use b43 drivers
[07:30] <Meikel> One question guys. I take my USB-HDD and try to start it. Than it only make "Piep, Piep, Piep,...." Somebody know why ? There are all my Pictures on :/
[07:30] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Because, well, they won't load
[07:32] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Please see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140622/
[07:34] <gr33n7007h> mmmm.....
[07:35] <icequeen> I am having big trouble installing burg
[07:36] <theadmin> icequeen: And just what exactly is wrong with GRUB?
[07:37] <icequeen> I'm getting this error when I'm trying to install BURG http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140625/
[07:37] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: So any idea? I'm desperate to get this working... I'm thinking to reinstall but this is a 64-bit system and so the !clone command ubottu provides won't work, and I hardly remember what I installed anymore
[07:38] <icequeen> Can anyone help me install BURG?
[07:38] <gr33n7007h> theadmin, got me!
[07:38] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: ?
[07:38] <gr33n7007h> theadmin, beyond me
[07:39] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Eh, I see... Bwah. Well, I'll reinstall, just gotta backup my /home somewhere
[07:40] <FishFace> I don't think this is fixable. 12.04. Did 395 updates. I was always at 64 bit. Now it shows 32 bit. Any ideas?
[07:42] <peetaur2> FishFace: Where does it show 32? What does uname -a tell you?
[07:42] <FishFace> peetaur: I cant do it now. Not on the OS. System Info shows that.
[07:42] <FishFace> The GUI
[07:42] <FishFace> But I will do uname when I boot to it
[07:43] <peetaur2> can you look at the disks?
[07:43] <theadmin> FishFace: Did you install a 32-bit kernel accidentally?
[07:44] <FishFace> theadmin: Possibly. I just went with the flow on the updates that was provided.
[07:44] <FishFace> Thing is now, it drags incredibly slow also.
[07:44] <theadmin> FishFace: Hm, then that wasn't supposed to happen
[07:44] <crimsonmane> as far as i know, updating does not change your kernel. you have to do that specifically
[07:44] <theadmin> Oh well, I'm off to reinstall.
[07:45] <FishFace> crimsonmane: Umm hmm. Well, it wasnt intentional. I didnt read all the 395 updates. Just let it ride.
[07:46] <FishFace> peetaur: Will ext2fsd let me view what you ask?
[07:47] <peetaur2> FishFace: is that a windows thing? if so, I would not trust it unless you've tested it. It might damage the file system.
[07:47] <peetaur2> I would only trust it if it has a "read only" option
[07:48] <peetaur2> or if the overwhelming opinion from its users is that it is safe no matter what windows version you have.
[07:49] <crimsonmane> FishFace: kernel upgrades do not show up in those updates.
[07:49] <crimsonmane> that's all i'm sayin
[07:49] <Guest9236> Creative Live! Cam Voice not recognized
[07:49] <FishFace> I see. I'm pretty sure I saw the kernel update wizz by. But maybe not. I'll boot to it now and see if I can land back in the chat
[07:50] <crimsonmane> i suppose i could be wrong
[07:50] <crimsonmane> FishFace: boot and hold shift to enter the kernel selection
[07:50] <FishFace> OK. Brb and I'll do the uname thing
[07:50] <FishFace> Will do
[07:50] <crimsonmane> you'll see how many kernels there are.
[07:50] <FishFace> k
[07:50] <ininin> hmm
[07:52] <ininin> hmm
[07:53] <suluckypenn> hello
[07:53] <suluckypenn> I am new in ubuntnu
[07:53] <ql> me too
[07:54] <suluckypenn> my english is poor
[07:54] <ql> Are you  programmer?
[07:54] <suluckypenn> no
[07:55] <suluckypenn> I just interesting in linux
[07:56] <FishFace> 32 bit here ;)
[07:56] <suluckypenn> where are you from ?
[07:56] <suluckypenn> friend
[07:57] <FishFace> uname -a shows 32 bit
[07:57] <ql> ChongQing
[07:57] <suluckypenn> 我是广东的，呵呵
[07:57] <FishFace> Also. I had the first option (with shift) to 3.20-29. I picked 3.20-24 which leaves me in the same state.
[07:58] <TJ-> FishFace: I missed it earlier; what's the problem you're facing?
[07:58] <FishFace> TJ-, 395 updates yesterday. I was 64 bit. Now its showing 32 bit and running slower than ever
[07:59] <TJ-> FishFace: wow! Is that 12.04 ?
[07:59] <FishFace> Yes. LTS.
[08:00] <TJ-> FishFace: Are you able to pastebin some text for me?
[08:00] <FishFace> Nothing here I would lose is critical mind you. I could just start over again. The thing is would this happen again with massive updates?
[08:00] <FishFace> TJ-, Sure
[08:02] <TJ-> FishFace: Do "cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastebinit"  ... it'll give you the link to the pastebin it has been sent to; just copy that link to here
[08:03] <FishFace> Whoops. patebinit not installed. But I can copy it in anyway to the site
[08:04] <jddebug> I just did updates for 12.04 and now I can't see any of my apps. Can't even find terminal in the Dash Home when doing a search
[08:04] <TJ-> FishFace: strange. I thought it was installed by default - its well worth it. "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[08:05] <trijntje> jddebug: what icons do you see in the bottom of the dash window?
[08:06] <FishFace> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140648/
[08:06] <jddebug> Home, ruler pencil, paper music and video.  Wait, just did a second restart and the apps have returned.
[08:06] <icequeen> Hi, how can I remove Grub and/or Burg from a hard drive?
[08:06] <jddebug> Thats odd
[08:06] <icequeen> I accidentally installed it on the wrong one
[08:07] <TJ-> FishFace: thanks, I just wanted to confirm the CPU was 64-bit ;) ... now ... can you pastebin the file "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" please?
[08:07] <trijntje> jddebug: sometimes if you begin typing before all the lenses (programs behind the icons) have loaded you won't find anything. This only happens the first time you start the dash afaik
[08:07] <icequeen> Well, acually, the problem is Burg boots up but I can't access Windows
[08:08] <jddebug> trijntje, thanks. Hope it doesn't happen again then.
[08:08] <FishFace> TJ-, bash: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: Permission denied
[08:08] <FishFace> You are trying to send an empty document
[08:08] <bekks> icequeen: There is no way to "uninstall" the MBR. The only way to fix it is to reinstall the correct bootloader to the correct MBR.
[08:09] <TJ-> FishFace: are you trying to open it in an editor? Only root has write privileges. You should be able to read the file using, for example, "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg"  ... if you have pastebinit installed now, you could simply do "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit"
[08:09] <FishFace> I'll just paste it in
[08:10] <icequeen> bekks how do i do  that?
[08:10] <FishFace> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140661/
[08:15] <icequeen> bekks what do i do?
[08:15] <TJ-> FishFace: Looking at the list of previously installed kernels, that PC has always had 32-bit kernel's installed. You can see that that in the "PAE" (Processor Address Extensions - allows 32-bit to access more than 4GB of RAM) part of several entries. The non-PAE entries could be true 64-bit kernels or be non-PAE 32-bit... I want to check locally if there is an easy way to determine if those kernels are 64-bit or not. Whilst I do that, can you pastebin the file "/var/l
[08:15] <TJ-> og/apt/history.log" ?
[08:15] <savio> what is all gnome 3 ,gnome shell unity can anyone simplify for me
[08:16] <FishFace> OK
[08:16] <savio> is gnome is graphical interface for linux
[08:16] <savio> why so diversion
[08:17] <cherva> how can I see my ssh host rsa key in encrypted variant ( like in the known hosts file ) so I can automate the adding of my server to the pc's knownhosts file
[08:18] <FishFace> TJ-, Can't find l in /var
[08:18] <TJ-> FishFace: OK, I've found an easy way to determine the 64-bit or not of a kernel install. run this at a command line: "for f in /boot/config*; do echo -e "$f\n$(head  $f)\n"; done"
[08:18] <TJ-> FishFace: oops, the line split: it should have been "/var/log/apt/history.log"
[08:19] <TJ-> FishFace: FYI that 'history.log' is the record of updates applied... might give us a clue what happened
[08:19] <FishFace> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1140670/
[08:20] <TJ-> FishFace: OK, first thing... that pastebin confirms that PC does not have a 64-bit kernel installation. What it does have is 32-bit kernels with PAE to address more than 4GB of RAM
[08:20] <FishFace> Hmmmm
[08:21] <Benkinooby> hi i have problems with my system time. ntp is up and running but here is the strange thing: adjust time @ 8:04, offset is 0.5ms, adjust time @ 9:51 offset is 0.4ms adjust time at 10:18 offset is 600 seconds - what?! how can this happen?
[08:21] <TJ-> FishFace: Now, what may have happened is, after the update the default booting kernel ended up being one that doesn't support PAE rather than previously when the default kernel was PAE. We can fix that I think
[08:21] <FishFace> TJ-, Excellent
[08:22] <bekks> Benkinooby: Nothing to worry about.
[08:22] <Benkinooby> bekks, yes, because my system time wanders off as it wishes
[08:22] <bekks> Benkinooby: Then just use an NTP server and you'll be fine.
[08:23] <Benkinooby> bekks, my system time is sometimes exact, sometimes few minutes fast, sometimes several hours late and all that within one day
[08:23] <Benkinooby> bekks, i do
[08:23] <Benkinooby> bekks, at least i think i do
[08:23] <bekks> Benkinooby: Then check it :)
[08:23] <TJ-> FishFace: The 'grub.cfg' file tells me that, in fact, that PC *is* booting into a PAE kernel (it defaults to entry 0 - the first - which is "/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-29-generic-pae")
[08:24] <TJ-> FishFace: So I think we need to revisit what you think the symptoms are - they may in fact be caused by something else entirely
[08:24] <FishFace> TJ-, Yep. That is where it goes without shift
[08:24] <Benkinooby> bekks, running "sudo  time-admin" it says "configuration: keep synced with internet server"
[08:24] <bekks> when the time difference is too high, or the jitter is too high - constantly - you are better of to run "ntpdate pool.ntp.org" on a regular base, like every hour.
[08:24] <bekks> Benkinooby: Check wether you have a valid config for a running ntpd.
[08:26] <isotta> Hello, sorry use google translator I need help. I found myself installed (I think with the proposed updates) toolchain on ubuntu ppa r test. Since then I find myself installed ubuntu quantal 12.10 (but later appears as a guest 12.04) I can not view source software from the software center will add new ppa as apt to me by a series of errors. Sorry if I have dwelt. I do not want to reinstall everything. Maybe other u
[08:26] <isotta>   tries found themselves in this situation. Thanks for your attention.  If it would be easier enough to install over again that would be fine. I might add that my 2nd screen is off now also. That I can fix if needed.
[08:26] <savio> anyone
[08:27] <TJ-> FishFace: Well if you're OK to reinstall. I'd suggest if you want 64-bit to make sure you get the 'amd64' ISO image
[08:27] <Benkinooby> bekks, how can i see if my cconfiguration is valid
[08:27] <kv> hi
[08:28] <Benkinooby> bekks, that's my config http://pastebin.com/73Qspsnb
[08:28] <FishFace> TJ-, I think that might save us a bunch of time. I will go get the ISO again.
[08:29] <FishFace> TJ-, And I will double check the amd64. The DVD i have now that is what I wrote on it.
[08:29] <TJ-> FishFace: OK ... good luck... shout us again if you have issues :)
[08:30] <FishFace> TJ-, Thanks bud. I will let you know if it messes up again :)
[08:30] <Benkinooby> isotta, that is your mothertounge?
[08:30] <bekks> Benkinooby: As you can seem there is no NTP server configured - so you are not using one.
[08:31] <Benkinooby> bekks, hm, that explains stuff :P
[08:31] <Benkinooby> bekks, but what about this line? 'server ntp.ubuntu.com'
[08:31] <isotta> no
[08:32] <bekks> Benkinooby: I'd not rely on any server not part of the NTP project :) https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/NTP.html
[08:32] <Benkinooby> isotta, what is your mothertongue?
[08:32] <isotta> italian
[08:33] <Benkinooby> !taly
[08:33] <Benkinooby> !italy
[08:33] <isotta> yes
[08:33] <Benkinooby> isotta, go to #ubuntu-it
[08:33] <bekks> Benkinooby: Stop it.
[08:34] <isotta> ok
[08:34] <bekks> Benkinooby: He told us, that he got no answer there.
[08:34] <xiambax> Whats the latest version of ubuntu i can run on ppc?
[08:34] <Benkinooby> bekks, oh sorry, didn't see that
[08:34] <bekks> Benkinooby: It was part of his first message.
[08:35] <cherva> can ssh-keygen hash a hostname from stdin and print it to stdout
[08:35] <bekks> cherva: what are you really trying to do?
[08:35] <minimec> xiambax: ubuntu 12.10 Alpha3 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[08:36] <xiambax> Its for an iMac g4 with 500mb ram
[08:36] <xiambax> Think it would run ok?
[08:36] <bekks> xiambax: 12.04 should run on PPC.
[08:36] <bekks> xiambax: 12.10 isnt released yet, since it is in alpha status.
[08:36] <xiambax> is there ppc for current?
[08:37] <bekks> Sure.
[08:37] <minimec> xiambax: 500mb Ram is 'just enough'. I would not use the unity interface as default desktop environment. It would 'eat' half of your RAM.
[08:37] <johnf> Does anyone know the magic incantations to do a kickstart install using EFI. I've got it booting and installing but I can't work out the partitioning to install it creates a /boot/efi dir
[08:37] <bekks> xiambax: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/
[08:37] <xiambax> I wonder if i should choose a smaller distro
[08:37] <xiambax> something that will run with more speed and i could use for browsing etc
[08:38] <bekks> xiambax: Just use lubuntu or xubuntu.
[08:38] <bekks> xiambax: On a G3 there is no talking about "more speed" :)
[08:38] <Benkinooby> bekks, ok, i followed the guide
[08:38] <cherva> bekks, I want to give ssh-keygen a host and I want it hashed and ready for the knownhosts file not making it then hashing it and deleting the .old file or ssh-keygen uses the rsa public key to hash the host name ?
[08:38] <xiambax> g4
[08:38] <xiambax> lol
[08:38] <Benkinooby> bekks, now ntp will peridoically reset my system time... what happens when i don't have internet connection?
[08:39] <bekks> Benkinooby: Your clock will start wandering again, of course.
[08:39] <bekks> cherva: Sorry, I still dont understand what you are trying to achieve and why.
[08:41] <Benkinooby> bekks, hm... strange thing is that i never noticed time problems... but suddenly (~3 weeks ago) my system clock started going very wrong - on a random basis... so i thought some of these drift files might be misconfgured (since they will be used even without internet i guess)
[08:41] <Benkinooby> bekks, do you know how to interpret drift files?
[08:41] <cherva> bekks, if I type this ssh-keygen -H -f /path/to/known_hosts it finds plain text hostnames and hashes them so they are not readable I want the same but to give ssh-keygen the hostname from stdin or from a parameter
[08:41] <bekks> Benkinooby: You cant misconfigure drift files. They exist, or they dont.
[08:42] <bekks> cherva: ssh-keygen -F hostname
[08:42] <Benkinooby> bekks, if i am manually setting the time to a wrong time... won't that confuse the info in the drift files?
[08:43] <bekks> Benkinooby: Sure. Then the drift file gets invalid, NTP gets the "real time" but will not adjust your time directly, because of the drift being to high - instead NTP will slowly adjust the time.
[08:43] <ghano> this is the message i got for updating some extras files:Failure to download extra data filesName-ar.UTF-8:
[08:44] <cherva> bekks, I don't want to find them in the file I want to make them ... never mind I will make the known_hosts file and use the -H -f options
[08:44] <idletask> Hello
[08:44] <idletask> 12.04: how do I make grub display the menu at boot time?
[08:45] <Benkinooby> bekks, so in that case i'll just wait until ntpd "readjusted" the drift file?
[08:45] <bekks> idletask: By editing the /etc/default/grub file