[00:48] <jcastro> hey cprofitt
[00:48] <jcastro> cprofitt: what are you doing a talk on at FOSSCON?
[00:49] <cprofitt> I can do a few -- but jonathan has not told me yet
[00:49] <cprofitt> I would like to do one about FOSS in EDU
[00:49] <cprofitt> and would not mind doing another on information seucrity or some such...
[00:49] <cprofitt> or even organizing a community group...
[00:50] <jcastro> ok
[00:50] <jcastro> I am coming and I don't know what to talk about, heh
[02:51] <cprofitt> jcastro: sorry for being gone for a while...
[02:51] <cprofitt> kids needed tending


[00:43] <VeD0S> anyone know why an ethernet interface would show up in iwconfig but not ifconfig?
[00:44] <patdk-lap> cause ifconfig only shows active interfaces by default
[00:44] <VeD0S> ah
[00:45] <patdk-lap> try ifconfig interfacename
[00:45] <patdk-lap> and it will show it
[00:45] <VeD0S> ah excellent
[00:45] <VeD0S> thank you
[03:24] <hikenboot> hi I am working with Apache I am trying to change my apache document root to /var/www/mydomain.com/ instead of /var/www but changing it using the DocumentRoot directive seems to have no effect anyone know why?
[03:25] <hikenboot> I still arrive at the old web root when going browsing the web server
[03:39] <greppy> hikenboot: did you restart apache?
[03:39] <hikenboot> greppy yes
[03:39] <greppy> hikenboot: did you restart your web browser?
[03:40] <greppy> many web browsers will cache the webpage, restarting it or possibly forcing a refresh should help.
[03:51] <fubada> hi, why is 12.10 upgrade forcing me to install xorg
[03:55] <fubada> along with account-plugin-facebook and other spam
[03:55] <fubada> im running ubuntu server 12.04, looking to upgrade to 12.10
[03:57] <hikenboot> greppy restarting the ubuntu apache server/clearing client cache restarting client browser and trying again...dont think it will make a difference. I think there is something else that controls what is setup as root for the web server
[03:57] <greppy> hikenboot: what file did you edit?
[03:58] <fubada> why is 12.10 isntall gui
[03:59] <fubada> unity, xorg, etc
[03:59] <hikenboot> the files in /etc/apache2 the apache2.conf the sites-available directory and made links in the sites-enagbled directory
[04:00] <greppy> You should only have to edit one of the files in sites-enabled/
[04:04] <hikenboot> well before I had 3 different sites on one install of apache so your right I only need one site in sites-enable right now
[08:35] <samba35> i have apache2/sites-available/default:        DocumentRoot /var/www/wordpress but still it show default page
[08:54] <_KaszpiR_> samba35 go reload apache?
[08:54] <_KaszpiR_> and go to #apache or #httpd
[08:57] <_KaszpiR_> second make sure to enable dir module, make sure there is a php installed  and that in dir.conf there is a index.php added
[09:07] <JanC> sites-available is just that: sites that are configured, but not active
[09:10] <JanC> samba35: you should read /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz
[09:10] <greppy> files in sites-enabled should be a symlink to sites-available/
[09:11] <samba35> ok
[09:11] <JanC> and you should probably use a2ensite to enable them...
[09:12] <_KaszpiR_> afair sites-available/default is welll, enabled by default and probably points to welcome page
[09:12] <_KaszpiR_> unless they put it also somwhere else
[09:13] <JanC> ("zless /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz" in a terminal will let you read)
[09:33] <Frostbyte> um, could I get some help with openvpn? :/
[12:21] <sliddjur> I need some help setting up DNS server. When I try to start DNS server I get error message about firewall I think.
[17:34] <JoseeAntonioR> hey guys, when I use apache it consumes memory, and for it to release it I need to restart the serve, any ideas?
[17:36] <ropetin> JoseeAntonioR: stupid question, but what are you using to check memory usage?
[17:37] <JoseeAntonioR> ropetin: top
[17:37] <JoseeAntonioR> and vmstat
[17:42] <ropetin> And do you run out of memory?  The reason I ask is because it isn't neccessarily a problem that Apache keeps hold of hte memory
[17:42] <ropetin> the memory
[17:43] <JoseeAntonioR> no, I don
[17:43] <JoseeAntonioR> 't
[17:43] <JoseeAntonioR> I have 32GB, it uses ~30, and it doesn't release it, I need to restart the server for it to release it
[17:56] <princej88> Hi, Has anyone had any luck getting forked-daapd to work correctly in ubuntu server? I am having the issue where the connection will timeout after 5 minutes.
[17:56] <princej88> Running 12.04.2 lts
[17:56] <princej88> 12.04.1*
[18:14] <patdk-lap> JoseeAntonioR, how did you calculate memory usage of apache?
[18:14] <patdk-lap> apache normally only uses about 3megs, if your using mod_php, that is your issue
[18:14] <JoseeAntonioR> patdk-lap: top and vmstat
[18:14] <JoseeAntonioR> we're having LOTS of users
[18:15] <patdk-lap> top and vmstat?
[18:15] <patdk-lap> they won't show memory usage of apache
[18:15] <JoseeAntonioR> ah
[18:15] <JoseeAntonioR> wait a sec please
[18:15] <patdk-lap> what does the rss column of ps ax say?
[18:15] <JoseeAntonioR> I have no access to the server atm, I'm in a meeting
[18:15] <patdk-lap> and are you using mod_php, mod_perl, ???
[18:15] <JoseeAntonioR> actually, a friend of mine has the issue
[18:20] <JoseeAntonioR> patdk-lap: they say they're using the default install in ubuntu
[18:20] <patdk-lap> explain, default install
[18:20] <JoseeAntonioR> the one in the ubuntu repos
[18:20] <patdk-lap> cause default install in ubuntu, doesnt even install apache :)
[20:08] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[20:09] <SpaceBass> have a system with corrupted base files. Found the root cause, not a HD issue. Can I simply install over the corrupt install and keep my current configuration?
[20:13] <escott> SpaceBass, no
[20:13] <escott> !clone | SpaceBass
[20:14] <SpaceBass> thanks escott
[20:17] <escott> SpaceBass, that will NOT backup /etc or any other configs
[20:18] <SpaceBass> right, I have those already in tgz and moved off the drive
[20:20] <escott> !info etc-keeper | SpaceBass you might like this
[20:21] <escott> ubottu, why are you damned stupid that you can't figure out to take a "-" out of the package name
[20:21] <escott> !info etckeeper | SpaceBass
[20:22] <SpaceBass> thanks, with base-files being corrupt, I cannot apt-get anything. But I'll try though source
[20:23] <escott> SpaceBass, more for future reference
[20:24] <escott> it doesnt do any good unless its the first thing you install
[20:25] <SpaceBass> gotcha
[20:26] <ChmEarl> !automate
[21:03] <streulma> hello, should I use Ubuntu Server or Debian for my personal server? I have a network running with 10 ubuntu servers 10.04 but find it a little bit old and not up to date
[21:04] <patdk-lap> heh, debian is more up to date?
[21:05] <patdk-lap> debian is every 2 to 3 years, and ubuntu is every 6 months
[21:06] <ScottK> streulma: If you want a newer  release, just upgrade to 12.04.
[21:07] <escott> patdk-lap, ubuntu (usually) takes debian-testing freezes it for a few months and refines it then releases their version. so debian can be more up to date
[21:07] <patdk-lap> escott, debian-testing != release
[21:08] <patdk-lap> sure you can run sid if you want for a server
[21:08] <patdk-lap> I wouldn't trust it for any uptime
[21:08] <ScottK> I mostly wouldn't trust it for a server because there is no security update support for it.
[21:09] <ScottK> BTW, I've run the regular Ubuntu 6 month releases on servers and they are fine if you want even newer.
[21:09] <escott> patdk-lap, i thought yours was the question. so i was trying to explain where the packages came from. i see streulma was asking
[21:10]  * patdk-lap wonders how someone can call 5 release old software, not up to date
[21:12] <streulma> I love ubuntu for servers, but they came also every 5 minutes like also with a kernel update...
[21:14] <streulma> I have to decise between ubuntu server, debian or centos
[21:15] <patdk-lap> oh ya, centos only does releases every 5 to6 years, that is uptodate :)
[21:16] <streulma> but the software that I need like tomcat and postgres are running best on ubuntu
[21:16] <patdk-lap> you do know that centos only updates security patchs, not bug fixs in the kernel
[21:17] <patdk-lap> I dunno about debian
[21:17] <ScottK> If the frequent kernel updates bother you, you can read the security notices and only reboot into the new kernel if there's an issue that concerns you.
[21:17] <ScottK> Personally, I like having bugs get fixed.
[21:17] <patdk-lap> it's a personal server too, why do you need months of uptime?
[21:59] <Anternat>  hi i have 10.04 server which i can only use ssh to access. I have lost access although it stays in the network when powered on.(Neither by hostname nor by ip). Happened after i did an install about security camera software. what are my options to gain access again?
[22:05] <patdk-lap> what does that mean?
[22:05] <Anternat> i cant ssh to my box anymore
[22:06] <Anternat> but it stays in the network
[22:07] <patdk-lap> two options
[22:07] <patdk-lap> walk over to it and fix it using a keyboard
[22:07] <patdk-lap> hack into to it using any exposed services it runs
[22:07] <Anternat> no kb no monitor
[22:08] <escott> patdk-lap, you left off the third option. hold a séance
[22:08] <ScottK> Did you try to ssh to it's IP address directly and not the hostname?
[22:08] <Anternat> yep both
[22:08] <Anternat> did even port scan but no port seemed to be open, i dont know :(
[22:09] <patdk-lap> hope it has ilo, drac, ipmi, ... support?
[22:09] <escott> Anternat, you don't know what is going on. it may not even be booting.
[22:09] <Anternat> yes escott but does it join the network without being able to boot properly?
[22:10] <patdk-lap> what does, join the network, mean?
[22:10] <escott> Anternat, how do you know it is joining the network. the card could just be signalling power and the router making the offer. no reason to believe the system accepts the offer
[22:10] <Anternat> there s an assigned ip to it via dsl modem router. That ip is visible when i turn the pc on
[22:11] <escott> Anternat, and plenty of reason to believe it isn't. does it respond to ping?
[22:11] <Anternat> didnt try, lemme do, sec plz
[22:11] <Anternat> yes it answers
[22:12] <escott> Anternat, then it accepts the offer, but doesn't run services. could be in the initramfs... you have no idea
[22:13] <Anternat> do i have chance to go more with sorta live cd?
[22:13] <escott> Anternat, i dont think the livecd runs ssh server by default, but you could customize one
[22:13] <escott> Anternat, that may not do anything useful though. that would only let you check that the disks are not corrupted.
[22:14] <escott> Anternat, you should always have a console level access plan
[22:15] <Anternat> okay thanks for your time
[22:15] <patdk-lap> initramfs only does networking stuff for network root, as far as I know


[00:42] <BobJonkman1> IdleOne: Darn! Missed the meeting.
[00:47] <IdleOne> which meeting is that?
[01:17] <BobJonkman1> IdleOne: This meeting :) http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ca/2014/ubuntu-ca.2014-05-21-15.36.moin.txt
[01:17] <IdleOne> oh lol
[01:18] <BobJonkman1> There isn't a meeting scheduled for May at all, neither an IRC one or a Video Chat meeting.
[01:19] <BobJonkman1> But I haven't heard people marching in the streets chanting "We want a meeting" either
[01:20] <BobJonkman1> If anyone wants one, let me know.
[01:21] <BobJonkman1> Or you can set it up yourself. Add an agenda page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings and stick it on the Events page at http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ca
[01:23] <IdleOne> I just needed to test the bot was working real quick and this window is the one I had focused