[06:45] <kaiwen> ok wait
[06:45] <glitsj16> RadicalR: .. or #pulseaudio if anyone's there
[06:45] <l815> seems to be running but not as strong as when I run more programs
[06:45] <kaiwen> do a acpi -t
[06:46] <l-bob> hi... got a question/help needed xubuntu here... newbie
[06:46] <joustin> My laptop is crappy and runs ubuntu 6.06 I cant upgrade to 8 due to it not reading the disk
[06:46] <l815> kaiwen, 46c
[06:46] <kaiwen> hmmm...
[06:46] <kaiwen> wow, and your fan is running, and it's hot
[06:46] <kaiwen> 46 doesn't seem much to me, like how hot is it.
[06:46] <l815> yah that's what i find strange
[06:46] <kaiwen> my fan doesn't run until it hits 60
[06:46] <l815> um, the touchpad is pretty warm, it's under where it seems to feel pretty hot
[06:47] <kaiwen> hmmm.. so it's not under the cpu?
[06:47] <kaiwen> just the touchpad?
[06:47] <l815> i think it's where the cpu is (there's a plate on there)
[06:47] <l815> which is right near the touchpad
[06:48] <kaiwen> ok, then it's logical that the fan should be running
[06:48] <Guest24174> \/help
[06:48] <Guest24174> /help
[06:48] <Mycah_> Hello
[06:48] <l815> is there a way to make the fan run faster? it seems to be at a slow speed
[06:48] <kaiwen> but it doesn't make since it's that hot, since you said it was 46 degrees. right now mine is 59
[06:48] <l815> wow ;o
[06:48] <kaiwen> maybe, let me help you google
[06:48] <Guest24174> holy crap thats hot
[06:48] <Mycah_> Hello
[06:48] <kaiwen> i know i am
[06:49] <l815> yah 59 seems hot to me :O
[06:49] <kaiwen> lol, it is.. but for some laptops, that is average
[06:49] <Guest24174> hmm there is a shell command you can run to find out the temperature
[06:49] <kaiwen> acpi -t
[06:49] <kaiwen> it measure how hot you are
[06:49] <Mycah_> My install is really buggy... my sound stops working and then programs stop working, and then i can't open any new programs or even press the restart button. why would this be happening
[06:49] <overlordpuppy> Whatever I record with gnome sound recorder has a static noise and my voice is way deeper. Yet when I allow the mic to go through to the speakers, it sounds just fine. It just won't record for me. Any ideas anyone?
[06:49] <RadicalR> Nice, I'm at 48.0C
[06:49] <l815> it's only from the touchpad to the middle of the laptop where it's hot
[06:49]  * RadicalR learns something new.
[06:50] <isakey> so really what is pulseaudio for? is it able to mix audio sources, if this fail with other sound systems?
[06:50] <kaiwen> l815 try this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=557911
[06:50] <kaiwen> pulseaudio is an audio driver
[06:50] <kaiwen> i think.
[06:50] <Guest24174> acpi -t
[06:51] <Guest24174> yup, thanks!
[06:51] <l815> kaiwen, thanks ill take a look
[06:51] <jeettu> how to install lego mindstrome software in ubuntu
[06:51] <m3gach33zy> hey can someone help me with some network stuff
[06:51] <kaiwen> yeah, i looked at this temperature issue on my laptop before, b/c it was burning my legs.
[06:51] <isakey> kaiwen: i interesting in mixing stream from game and music player (it dosnt work by default)
[06:51] <kaiwen> isakey, i have no experience about that, sry :/
[06:52] <kaiwen> isakey, actually
[06:52] <Mycah_> anyone have any ideas?
[06:52] <kaiwen> isakey, it won't work because it uses the audio at the same time.
[06:52] <Guest24174> I'm sure if you ask the question someone knowlegable will respond
[06:52] <kaiwen> isakey, how do I know this? if you run amarok, then use wine that cobtains a program with audio, it won't work?
[06:52] <kaiwen> why? because the audio driver is requested at the same time twice, for two different prorams
[06:52] <m3gach33zy> Can someone tell me how to keep my wireless going when i close my laptop?
[06:53] <Guest24174> kaiwen actually it depends on the application
[06:53] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy, is it on hibernate?
[06:53] <Guest24174> some apps use ALSA directly
[06:53] <kaiwen> Guest24174, true, but I'm assuming his applications don't work well together
[06:53] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen no i just close the lid or i lock it
[06:53] <Vorbote> isakey: install pavucontrp
[06:53] <Vorbote> pavuvontrol
[06:53] <isakey> kaiwen: this problem should be solved
[06:53] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy, you might want to check your session settings, to see whether it locks.
[06:53] <jeettu> how to install NXT(lego mindstrome) software in ubuntu
[06:53] <kaiwen> the screen or not
[06:53] <l815> what is required to run "sudo cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points" ? I'm getting no directory
[06:54] <kaiwen> lol
[06:54] <isakey> Vorbote: ok
[06:54] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: how do i check the sessions?
[06:54] <kaiwen> l815 do a cd /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
[06:54] <kaiwen> then do a ls
[06:54] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy what gui are u running
[06:54] <Mycah_> anyone have any ideas?
[06:54] <l815> kaiwen, worked
[06:54] <kaiwen> :D
[06:54] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: umm the one before the new one
[06:54] <kaiwen> the name of the THRM is different for everyone
[06:54] <kaiwen> GNOME or KDE
[06:55] <nomad729> !ask | Mycah_
[06:55] <Mycah_> i didn't.
[06:55] <l815> ahh ok
[06:55] <Mycah_> i asked a question.
[06:55] <l-bob> hi... got a question/help needed xubuntu here... newbie.. lost panels top and bottom
[06:55] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: gusty gibbon version 7.10
[06:55] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy, are you a mega noob, just wondering
[06:55] <l815> trip point for one is 127c and the other 105c :O
[06:56] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: yes i hardly use ubuntu and i'm trying to get into it
[06:56] <Guest24174> l-bob try ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:56] <nomad729> l-bob: in gnome-terminal xfce4-panel --restart
[06:56] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy i need to know the window manager you are using, gnome kde, or xfce
[06:56] <Guest24174> that will kill your X session
[06:56] <RadicalR> So strange!
[06:56] <kaiwen> is it very orange?
[06:56] <RadicalR> Everything works now!
[06:56] <m3gach33zy> gnome
[06:56] <kaiwen> like the desktop
[06:56] <kaiwen> lol
[06:56] <kaiwen> ok
[06:56] <RadicalR> Thank you for all your help guys.
[06:56] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy, i'm on kde now, but if you search around for something like powersettings
[06:56] <kaiwen> that should help
[06:56] <Guest24174> well try the restart panel first
[06:56] <kaiwen> and turn off hibernate, lock screen, or whatever is there when you close you laptop lid
[06:57] <Mycah_> My install is really buggy... my sound stops working and then programs stop working, and then i can't open any new programs or even press the restart button. why would this be happening?
[06:57] <ionic> lol
[06:57] <l-bob> trying cntrl-backspc first.. it is rebooting
[06:57] <Guest24174> well it should reboot
[06:57] <Guest24174> *oops shouldnt
[06:57] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: i found power management but it doesnt have anything to do with network stuff
[06:57] <Guest24174> just restart the x-session
[06:57] <kaiwen> it doesn't,
[06:57] <kaiwen> this is the session issue not the network
[06:58] <kaiwen> trust me, does it say antying about laptop under power management?
[06:58] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: under sessions i'm not sure where to go
[06:58] <l-bob> that restart did not work.. trying the other
[06:58] <l-bob> now
[06:58] <jon_high9000> i have a question. can i run Firestarter and ufw at the same time?
[06:58] <l815> kaiwen, how do I know which one is the right one? http://pastebin.com/m46b45820
[06:58] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: it says actions put computer to sleep when inactive for... i said never
[06:59] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: when i close the lid i said do nothing
[06:59] <kaiwen> there you go
[06:59] <kaiwen> that's it
[06:59] <Dranik> hi there
[06:59] <kaiwen> l815, what is this?
[06:59] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: okay got that but can i lock it and still have the network going?
[06:59] <nomad729> jon_high9000: technically yes but the one thats run last will set iptables rules
[06:59] <kaiwen> oh i see it
[06:59] <l815> kaiwen, the output of the thresholds for both directories
[06:59] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy, play around with it and see m3ga
[06:59] <kaiwen> probably since the session is still running
[06:59] <Dranik> which app could I use to capture the key code? (I'd like to use my keyboard volume control keys)
[06:59] <l815> i just don't know which one I should edit
[06:59] <ionic> lol
[07:00] <octal> Dragnslcr: xev
[07:00] <kaiwen> l815, couldn't hurt to do both? :D
[07:00] <l815> lol true
[07:00] <Dranik> octa, thanks!
[07:00] <kaiwen> but.
[07:00] <kaiwen> look carefully
[07:00] <kaiwen> you see the second one
[07:00] <l-bob> I got 'WARNING **; xfce4-panel is not running
[07:00] <kaiwen> contains info on your CPU
[07:00] <l815> yah, the passive right?
[07:00] <kaiwen> so i'm assuming you have two fans
[07:00] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: well i dont see anything under session or anywhere about leaving the network on when i lock the desktop\
[07:00] <kaiwen> one cpu, one somethign else
[07:01] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy there isn't
[07:01] <billenium> how can i do sudo and put the password in the command... like sudo -something passwoereher ??? or...
[07:01] <kaiwen> just lock it and close the laptop
[07:01] <kaiwen> it should still run, it doesn't exit anything at all
[07:01] <kaiwen> oh yeah, l815, don't play with the critical setting
[07:01] <jon_high9000> nomad729: thanks nomad. this issue was very confusing for me.
[07:01] <kaiwen> lol
[07:02] <JamesPerreault> I'll risk sounding like the new'b I am... But Had anyone run Kcron on Hardy Heron to play Music files?
[07:02] <kaiwen> leave the critical setting like that, if the temp. is any higher than that, your laptop will shutdown automatically
[07:02] <kaiwen> online change the passive, i think?
[07:02] <kaiwen> only*
[07:02] <l-bob> nomad729 I *can get a menu by a right click on screen..
[07:03] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy the reason why the network didn't work b/c you closed your laptop lid was b/c it went into hibernate or something similar
[07:03] <kaiwen> meaning, everything goes into memory or your harddrive and your computer shutsdown fully or partially
[07:03] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: right i can close it just fine now
[07:03] <kaiwen> :D
[07:03] <nomad729> l-bob: thats normal then try oveing/renaming your xfce files in ~/.config as a last resort,logout back in will have defaults again
[07:03] <kaiwen> that's good
[07:03] <kaiwen> l815, i hope you didn't change the critical setting
[07:03] <nomad729> l-bob: moving
[07:03] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: i want to lock the session from outsiders tho while leaving the network running
[07:04] <l-bob> k nomad
[07:04] <l815> kaiwen, didn't change anything yet :P
[07:04] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy just lock your session from the menu
[07:04] <kaiwen> then close the lid
[07:04] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: i have a bunch of brothers and i dont want them to use the laptop but i still want my downloads to keep going
[07:04] <kaiwen> that's what you do
[07:04] <l815> kaiwen, i dont know what im changing, all i see is to do "echo -n "65:60:50:55:50:45" > /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points"
[07:04] <kaiwen> ur downloads will keep going if you do that
[07:04] <nomad729> l-bob: sorry to bail but bedtime hope it works
[07:04] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: i do the lock screen thing but the network stops
[07:05] <kaiwen> idk man, you might have to do an alternative.
[07:05] <kaiwen> downloading stuff....
[07:05] <kaiwen> hmm.
[07:05] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: yeah i guess so
[07:05] <\kG> how secure is the guided install with encrypted vpn
[07:05] <\kG> err
[07:05] <\kG> encrypted vlm
[07:05] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy, search google for locking screen in ubuntu
[07:05] <kaiwen> actually, try using kde
[07:05] <kaiwen> it might work better for you m3ga
[07:05] <kaiwen> l815, those trip points are the poitns where the fan will start
[07:06] <Logrusmage> Hey, can anyone suggest a good torrent client other than deluge?
[07:06] <kaiwen> it will start the fan if it passes 45 50 55 60 65 etc.
[07:06] <l815> kaiwen, so it wont touch the critical?
[07:06] <kaiwen> you can check
[07:06] <kaiwen> no it won't
[07:06] <kaiwen> btw, make a back up of those files first
[07:06] <RadicalR> Logrusmage, ktorrent is pretty good
[07:06] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: ah i got it instead of lock screen i use switch user and it'll stay on
[07:06] <kaiwen> m3gach33zy there you go
[07:06] <Logrusmage> radicalr: ty
[07:06] <m3gach33zy> kaiwen: thanks for the help :p
[07:07] <kaiwen> np\
[07:07] <Logrusmage> radicalr: does it run fine in gnome?
[07:07] <RadicalR> No problems here.
[07:07] <RadicalR> It's a utorrent clone
[07:07] <kaiwen> l815 i have to go
[07:07] <kaiwen> lotz of hw , procrastinated a bit
[07:07] <kaiwen> is there any last minute questions?
[07:07] <l815> kaiwen, its okay I think i found a thread for directions
[07:07] <kaiwen> ok cool
[07:07] <l815> kaiwen, thanks for the help :)
[07:07] <kaiwen> np
[07:07] <kaiwen> bye
[07:07] <l815> cya
[07:09] <JamesPerreault> I take it Kcron and Ubunto... that would be a no.
[07:09] <JamesPerreault> sorry... Ubuntu\
[07:10] <itai-michaelson> hi, i have a well tweaked hardy on a desktop, i would like to clone it to 10 new computers with the exact same hardware. whats the best way of doing that?
[07:11] <jmarsden> itai-michaelson: Consider g4u or some similar disk cloning tool?
[07:11] <itai-michaelson> jmarsden, let me google g4u, is that a luve disc?
[07:11] <achandrashekar> join #fedora
[07:11] <itai-michaelson> live disc..
[07:12] <jmarsden> itai-michaelson: http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
[07:12] <itai-michaelson> jmarsden, reading...
[07:16] <acces> somebody can help me ?.. i want to play my DVD(simpsons movie) "autoloading vlc" but.. i cant change default dvd autoplay :(
[07:17] <acces> i try in /etc/gnome/defaults.list  and isnot working
[07:19] <[[cEuWe_fZz_yMM]> hi da org Ga
[07:19] <itai-michaelson> jmarsden, this is over a network , i was wondering if there is something more ghost -like as those new computers are not connected to the net.
[07:19] <itai-michaelson> .
[07:19] <Armored_Azrael> What package contains GtkBuilder?
[07:21] <jmarsden> itai-michaelson: It does local disk to disk copying too, see the copydisk command
[07:22] <jigp> hello how to open the port for ssh in router?is it 22?so i could access my box?
[07:22] <jigp> port forwading?
[07:22] <jmarsden> itai-michaelson: I've used it for many years... networked and local copies work fine for me.
[07:22] <jigp> but what port?22?
[07:23] <jigp> im done installing openssh
[07:23] <eordenador> Hi, do anybody know any alternative to network manager?
[07:23] <itai-michaelson> jmarsden, so i what i need to do it hook up the new computers HD to the old one maunally and then boot from the CD , right?
[07:23] <cchance> Im looking for a GUI'ed POS application. Any Suggestions?
[07:23] <Armored_Azrael> eordenator: ifconfig + iwconfig + wpa_supplicant
[07:24] <jmarsden> Yes.
[07:24] <jmarsden> itai-michaelson: Or you can boot from floppy if you prefer :-)
[07:24] <hrtk> lol floppy
[07:24] <Logrusmage> radicalr: thanks a bunch... works SO much better...
[07:24] <RadicalR> no problems
[07:25] <acces> :(
[07:25] <eordenador> Armored_Azrael: via console, no graphic app?
[07:26] <l815> i'm getting a input/output error when trying to change trip points
[07:26] <cchance> Im looking for a GUI'ed POS application. Any Suggestions?
[07:27] <Johnny> hwo do i tell if someone is connected to my box
[07:28] <Johnny> and whats the name of a intrusion detection app
[07:28] <jigp> johnny : who
[07:28] <Johnny> what?
[07:29] <itai-michaelson> jmarsden, thanks -i'll give it a try
[07:30] <bicz> Johnny: type who or w in terminal
[07:30] <js__> jan
[07:30] <hrtk> hmm
[07:30] <Johnny> i only have two tabs open in firefox
[07:30] <Johnny> yet netstat -pat outputs at least 15
[07:31] <webman> I have a ubuntu install with grub installed/working, but how can I tell grub to boot my USB key instead of ubuntu ?
[07:31] <muntrue> Hey guys, can anyone try to connect to me trough VNC just so i know it works :)
[07:32] <webman> muntrue: what is the IP
[07:32] <muntrue> webman,  Is it oke if I PM that to you ?
[07:32] <goose> I can detect the network in wifi-radar and network connections, but it refuses to connect whenever I try to. MAC filer, no WEP key. Works fine in Windows, just not in Ubuntu.. anyone have a solution to this problem?
[07:32] <hrtk> muntrue i can help you
[07:32] <Johnny> whats the name of an intrusion detection app
[07:33] <hrtk> just pm me
[07:35] <wbmj> Johnny: Are you using Firefox 3?
[07:35] <Johnny> no
[07:36] <acces> somebody can help me "ubuntu 8.04" ?.. i want to play my DVD(simpsons movie) "autoloading vlc" but.. i cant change default dvd autoplay (totem)
[07:36] <Johnny> acces, preferences > prefered applications
[07:36] <Raheem> acces, can't u change it through System > preferences > preferred applicaitons ?
[07:36] <acces> no work
[07:37] <acces> just appear totem .. but no vlc
[07:37] <jmarsden> Johnny: snort is one IDS
[07:37] <acces> i try in /etc/gnome/defaults.list  and not work   :(
[07:37] <acces> Raheem: no :(
[07:37] <Johnny> and do you know anything to encrypt passwords jmarsden
[07:38] <Johnny> in firefox
[07:38] <jmarsden> encrypt... well, passwd does that :-)  What specifically do you need to do?
[07:39] <webman> johnny: there is a crypt plugin for firefox I think ....
[07:39] <Johnny> something to encrypt passwords so that nothing going into a form can be sniffed or something
[07:39] <jmarsden> Johnny: In Firefox?  Just set it not to store passwords at all.  And use https connections?
[07:40] <goose> does anyone know why ubuntu will detect wireless networks, but not connect to them?
[07:40] <Johnny> if i dont store passwords id have 15+ or so id have to remember and i get them mixed up
[07:40] <webman> johnny: you can't, if the server uses https, then it is done for you, otherwise, you can't enter anything into the form or else it can be sniffed
[07:40] <Johnny> goose, i had a similar problem it has something to do with nm-applet and network manager conflict i think
[07:40] <Johnny> cant remember what though
[07:41] <goose> Johnny, do you remember how you fixed it? I have no idea what nm-applet is
[07:41] <Drago84> net
[07:41] <Johnny> i dont goose i sold that laptop to a friend sorry
[07:41] <skurakai> hi i have trouble with Firefox.
[07:41] <Johnny> nm-applet is the little applet on the bar for network manager
[07:42] <goose> damn.. it originally worked straight off the install, but when I installed wifi-radar, it stopped working
[07:42] <skurakai> i'am using windows profile on NTFS but FF on start send "Firefox cannot use the profile "Default" because it is in use."
[07:42] <Johnny> how do i set up snort jmarsden ?
[07:42] <wbmj> goose: to use wifi-radar you need to edit /etc/interfaces
[07:43] <goose> wbmj, I tried removing wifi-radar and it still wouldn't connect after I got rid of it
[07:43] <goose> wbmj, detects fine and dandy, just doesn't connect
[07:44] <janhaj> !list FloodBot3
[07:44] <Johnny> does it ever connect goose and then just stop suddenly?
[07:45] <goose> Johnny, nope, doesn't assign me an IP address at all
[07:45] <jmarsden> Johnny: read the docs first.  http://www.snort.org/docs/#docs
[07:45] <wbmj> goose: Do the connections have an icon next them
[07:46] <goose> wbmj, not following you. what do you mean?
[07:47] <wbmj> goose: left click on the nm-applet... the dropdown menu should list available connections
[07:47] <dany> I have an odd problem with my sound. I don't really know how to put this into words, so bear with me. When I play an audio file, it seems as though there are missing channels\tracks, does this sound familiar to anyone?
[07:47] <goose> wbmj, it only says "Manual configuration"
[07:47] <goose> dany, are you using a laptop or a desktop?
[07:48] <dany> Like, I can't hear the lead guitar something or something of that sort
[07:48] <dany> goose, a desktop
[07:48] <slchen> hi all, Is there any command to determine the encoding of a text file under ubuntu?
[07:48] <goose> dany, I had a similar problem with an old laptop. I ended up just reformatting and slapping on a fresh install and that fixed it.. :/
[07:49] <wbmj> goose: open System > Administration > Network and set your wireless connection to roaming
[07:49] <dany> goose, this IS a fresh install :)
[07:49] <_2> slchen file
[07:50] <goose> wbmj, ok, done. How can I check to see if I have an IP assigned to my wireless?
[07:50] <slchen> _2, I just get ISO-8859 , seems the UTF-8 encoding
[07:50] <wbmj> goose: now go to the nm-applet and see if you have a list of access points
[07:50] <slchen> but the content I tested are GB2312 , Big5,
[07:51] <goose> wbmj, yes, I do. Only one, the network I'm hard wired into right now and trying to connect to wirelessly.
[07:51] <itai-michaelson> jmarsden, can i ask you some g4u questions?
[07:51] <wbmj> goose: laptop?
[07:52] <jmarsden> itai-michaelson: Go ahead.
[07:52] <itai-michaelson> will g4u name the discs the same way ubuntu does?
[07:52] <goose> wbmj, yep. I'm 30% done downloading a 700 mb file, so I'm a bit hesitant to unplug the ethernet and test it
[07:52] <itai-michaelson> i'm afraid to get them wrong
[07:52] <goose> wbmj, is there a terminal command I can execute to see if I have an IP assigned to my wireless?
[07:52] <jmarsden> No, it runs netbsd underneath so uses its disk devcie names.
[07:53] <jmarsden> itai-michaelson: read the manual again, there is a command that lists devices...
[07:53] <webman> goose: ifconfig -a will show all interfaces
[07:53] <itai-michaelson> jmarsden, so how can i tell which is the target disc and which the source
[07:53] <itai-michaelson> can i browse them somehow?
[07:53] <wbmj> goose: ok when you finish download disconnect the hardwire and logout/in........should update nm-applet listings
[07:53] <webman> goose: if you are downloading a file, and you change your interface, you will interrupt the download, because you will have a different IP on the new interface
[07:53] <jmarsden> itai-michaelson: boot it with just the source disk installed, and list devices.  Repeat with both installed, the new one is the target.
[07:54] <grandy> hello, anyone know what console-kit-daemon is and what can go wrong if it segfaults?
[07:54] <jmarsden> If you understand a bit about netbsd that's not needed, but if you are worried it is pretty safe :-)
[07:54] <itai-michaelson> jmarsden, i know nothing about netbsd ,but i will try your method
[07:55] <TEN> From you experience, can Ubuntu comfortably (i.e. without constant disk thrashing) be run on a 256 MB machine (1+ GHz processor implied) for general OpenOffice/Firefox/Ekiga(VoIP)/Pidgin use? I'm asking since the 8.04 Live CD would grind down to even freezing the mouse pointer with just 192 MB installed and the GNOME taking its toll (it's understood requirements will be a little lower for a hard disk install from the Alter
[07:55] <boGGdy> me again, I'm still trying to install ubuntu and to format partitions here. anyone available to help me?
[07:55] <l3d> can I use samba to share a folders in mu ubuntu only network
[07:55] <AlexJP> TEN: have you heard of xubuntu
[07:56] <falieson> vlc isn't playing this avi file
[07:56] <itai-michaelson> TEN - it can run well on 256MB but not with GNOME (the deafult grapgic environment)
[07:56] <wbmj> TEN: highly recommend xubuntu
[07:56] <TEN> AlexJP: Sure, but I mean the general edition.
[07:56] <jeeves__> what is the command to move EVERYTHING recursivly from one directory to another?  is is "mv --r * /<target directory>/ ?
[07:56] <btfx> Can someone help me? Ubuntu is freezing up... I think it has to go with my wireless card...
[07:56] <btfx> **do
[07:56] <falieson> What do I need to download so VLC will play this file? how do I find out what codec I need and then how do I add it to vlc
[07:57] <TEN> itai-michaelson: Thanks, I feared I'd hear that. Not that any of the apps I mentioned would actually require GNOME though...
[07:57] <itai-michaelson> TEN, you can install the general edition and then run it with a different graphic environment
[07:57] <_2> l3d you can but you could use something FOSS'ish
[07:57] <wbmj> falien: install ubuntu-restricted-meta...............
[07:57] <TEN> itai-michaelson: Well the installer wouldn't let me (or maybe the alternate one would) given the lack of RAM
[07:58] <itai-michaelson> TEN, hen install xubuntu
[07:58] <falieson> wbmj, I think I've done that already
[07:58] <TEN> itai-michaelson: This would be xfce I guess?
[07:58] <jeeves__> itai-michaelson, can you give me a hand on this mv command issue?
[07:58] <itai-michaelson> TEN, yes, if you are just running those apps you can run IceWM much faster than XCE
[07:58] <wbmj> TEN: Xfce in xubuntu is setup very similar to Gnome
[07:59] <btfx> Ubuntu is freezing up, can someone help me figure out why?
[07:59] <webman> jeeves__ to recursively move you either "mv <directory> <target directory" or "mv <directory>/* <target dir>"
[07:59] <FAJALOU> HELP my appearances in my preferences will not open, i just installed a custom theme and every time i open it, it automatically closes again!
[07:59] <wbmj> falien : Try Medibuntu repo and install w32codecs
[07:59] <jeeves__> webman, and the recursive part?
[07:59] <webman> btfx: can you do CTRL-ALT-F1 when it is 'frozen' ??
[07:59] <btfx> webman: one sec, let me check
[08:00] <webman> jeeves__: if the source is a dir then it will move the dir and all it's contents
[08:00] <jmarsden> jeeves__: if you move a directory you have by definition moved everything under it
[08:00] <_2> webman just a thought.  but mv on local fs doesn't actually move anything it only readdresses the inodes  ;/
[08:00] <wbmj> FAJALOU: in terminal gnome-appearances-properties
[08:00] <_2> which is good!
[08:00] <webman> btw, in my second above it won't move the files/directories under the source that start with a .   :)
[08:00] <TEN> wbmj: I see, and xubuntu should probably do the trick. Impressively it seems to be following the general releases with less the a week's delay...
[08:01] <jeeves__> webman, thanks.
[08:01] <jeeves__> jmarsden, thanks
[08:01] <webman> _2: correct, and if target/dest are not on the same FS it will simply cp and rm :)
[08:01] <wbmj> TEN: yes and it is LTS
[08:01] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  command not found
[08:01] <btfx> webman: anything I do while it's frozen executes after it unfreezes
[08:01] <boGGdy> ubuntu noob, I need help with formating
[08:01] <btfx> including Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:02] <_2> webman correct.   one q though.    on local fs   does it hardlink and then rm the origenal ?
[08:02] <wbmj> FALJALOU: my mistake gnome-appearance-properties
[08:02] <webman> btfs: what do you mean by unfreeze ?? does it just freeze for a few seconds or something ?
[08:02] <FAJALOU> wbjm :  tabbed it thx.  segmentation fault :\
[08:02] <goose> wbmj, you rock
[08:02] <goose> thanks
[08:03] <webman> _2: no, it calls the system call "rename" which is an atomic action, so at any instant, only one of the entries will exist never both, and never neither. The OS looks after that for you
[08:03] <wbmj> FAJALOU: that's not good
[08:03] <wbmj> goose: np
[08:03] <FAJALOU> uhoh :\  i just tried to install a customized appearance package, and it quit out on me...
[08:03] <btfx> webman, it freezes for 5 seconds 3 times in a row (with a few milliseconds of normal behavior in-between), then there's about 30-45 seconds of normal behavior before it repeats
[08:03] <_2> webman k.   cool
[08:03] <webman> btfs: try running "dmesg|tail" and see if it gives any errors, it might help pinpoint the problem
[08:04] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  any fix for it...?
[08:04] <jmarsden> FAJALOU: Try uninstalling the theme? :-)
[08:04] <FAJALOU> jmarsden:  would love to,,, except to uninstall it don't you have to get into appearance settings?
[08:04] <wbmj> wbmj: beat me to the punch jmardens
[08:05] <jmarsden> FAJALOU: No, what was the package name you installed?
[08:05] <itai-michaelson> question - i'm using compiz for the 1st time, whenver i hit backspace twice i get this wired brown line in the middle of the screen , what is that?
[08:05] <FAJALOU> jmarsden: aero-trk-2.0.tar.gz
[08:05] <FAJALOU> jmarsden: aero-gtk-2.0.tar.gz
[08:05] <jmarsden> FAJALOU: and how did you install it?  That's not a Ubuntu package BTW
[08:06] <FAJALOU> jmarsden: i drug and dropped it into the appearances area.
[08:06] <wbmj> FAJALOU: the theme is saved in ./themes in your home directory...just dellete the folder named aero
[08:07] <FAJALOU> the one named aero-gtk-2.0?
[08:07] <wbmj> FAJALOUU: yes
[08:07] <FAJALOU> try opening it again/
[08:07] <FAJALOU> phew. opened that time :D
[08:08] <FAJALOU> what, do you think went wrong, i am new to gtk coding, and so it was prolly human error
[08:08] <bullgard4> I have got in /etc/alternatives/ 11 stale symlinks. Should I simply delete them?
[08:08] <wbmj> FAJALOU: wouldn't even try to guess
[08:08] <FAJALOU> lol.  ok. can you recommend a good, vista-ish looking theme?
[08:09] <_2> i wouldn't if i could
[08:09] <wbmj> FAJALOU: did you checkout www.gnome-look.org
[08:09] <itai-michaelson> FAJALOU, go to gnome-look and search "linst"
[08:09] <FAJALOU> wbmj: yes. but no real luck,
[08:09] <itai-michaelson> linsta
[08:10] <boGGdy> how/who do I ask for help?
[08:10] <itai-michaelson> boGGdy, just ask!
[08:10] <bazhang> boGGdy, what partitioning help; please clarify
[08:11] <btfx> webman: "dmesg|tail" returns: http://pastebin.com/m60848d1a
[08:11] <boGGdy> bazhang> I have two NTFS patitions. on C: I have WinXP, on D... Games, pictures... stuff
[08:11] <bazhang> boGGdy, need an actual question
[08:11] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  how can i tell if it is actually a theme or not?
[08:11] <boGGdy> bazhang> I was thinking to put ubuntu on the free space on D. what do I have to do to keep the info on my hDD?
[08:12] <raxial> boggdy: burn data to dvd(s)
[08:12] <bazhang> boGGdy, back up first
[08:12] <FAJALOU> boGGdy: and defrag if it's windows.
[08:12] <FAJALOU> just to be safe
[08:12] <wbmj> FAJALOU: Appearances won't accept anything thar's not a theme format
[08:13] <wbmj> Can't type tonight
[08:13] <itai-michaelson> boGGdy, i second the "back-up" suggestion
[08:13] <boGGdy> :( too much work. I have over 200 GB of stuff
[08:13] <_2> then it's to valuable not to
[08:14] <webman> btfs: yep, looks like problems with wireless.... I can't help you much more, since I don't really know any more, but now you can probably file a bug for your wireless and provide the complete output of "dmesg" and "lspci -v" to start with
[08:14] <boGGdy> what if I drop in another HDD, an old IDE? would 13Gb be enough?
[08:14] <itai-michaelson> boGGdy, yes
[08:14] <FAJALOU> wbmj: ok i think i permenatnly screwed something up; not my menubar is looking funky, and not correct.
[08:14] <_2> boGGdy yes
[08:14] <wbmj> boGGdy: plenty
[08:14] <btfx> webman: Do you think using ndiswrapper to use the Win32 drivers might help?
[08:14] <_2> boGGdy 5g should be enough
[08:14] <FAJALOU> wbmj: everything else looks fine, but the menubar...
[08:15]  * webman usus ubuntu on the asus eeepc with a 4G HDD and it works well
[08:15] <wbmj> FAJALOU: let me guess you can't see the words on the nenu
[08:15] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  now neither of the menubars are changing at all!...
[08:15] <FAJALOU> they are black...
[08:15] <boGGdy> and... what type of partition should I choose? should I go with the automatic partitioning?
[08:15] <webman> btfs: I think it is already using ndiswrapper... hence the messages in dmesg ....
[08:15] <btfx> ahh =\
[08:15] <btfx> damn
[08:15]  * _2 uses kubuntu on a p1 with 610m hdd and it "works"
[08:15] <wbmj> FAJOU: sound like a poorly constructed theme
[08:16] <murlidhar> i am using lxde
[08:16] <FAJALOU> ya but whichever theme i change to, it doesn't chane...
[08:16] <murlidhar> and i am not able to change the wallpaper
[08:16] <raxial> boggdy:   guided use full disc
[08:16] <KestasUPSY> Hi, everybody
[08:16] <webman> _2: yeah, but is it useful :)
[08:16] <FAJALOU> wbmj: the panels are not changing at all...
[08:16] <murlidhar> earlier i could change it but now only openbox  menu is shown when i right click on the desktop
[08:16] <boGGdy> raxial> thank you. thank you, all! time for the surgeon in me to go inside
[08:17] <wbmj> FAJALOU: open custom and change the window style then go back and pick a theme
[08:17] <murlidhar> anyone who is well versed with lxde ?
[08:17] <raxial> boggdy:   welcome
[08:17] <KestasUPSY> is is difficult to start using Ubuntu, if all the time i used windows?
[08:17] <_2> webman depends on what you want to do...    short answer "yes"   long answer is  for some things and not so good for others   ripping dvd's no.  serfing web, chatting, remote access over sss  yes.
[08:17] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  did that, still no change.
[08:18] <itai-michaelson> KestasUPSY, not really
[08:18] <itai-michaelson> KestasUPSY, try the Live-Cd and see for your self
[08:18] <KestasUPSY> i tryied, i was installed 2 operating systems
[08:18] <wbmj> FAJALOU: trying changing controls in custom
[08:18] <murlidhar> anyone has any idea who can change the wallpaper in lxde ?
[08:19] <murlidhar> desktop environment
[08:19] <KestasUPSY> but when i didn't like at first time, and i uninstalled ubuntu
[08:19] <KestasUPSY> by windows doesn't start
[08:19] <FAJALOU> wbmj: i can change it; but it only affects the appearance prefs window.
[08:19] <FAJALOU> nothing more than that.
[08:19] <KestasUPSY> then i had to do something like fixmbr
[08:19] <itai-michaelson> KestasUPSY, you need to restore the MBR
[08:20] <KestasUPSY> okay.
[08:20] <murlidhar> !ping
[08:20] <cha0n1x> Hi all - How would I go about extracting the contents of an .img file made with dd of an almost-dead ntfs hard-drive?
[08:20] <itai-michaelson> KestasUPSY, you can try wubi  i think it runs linux without changing the MBR but not 100% sure
[08:20] <wbmj> FAJALOU:even when you change the controls?
[08:21] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  yup, the only thing that changes is the appearance preferences window.
[08:21] <cha0n1x> I tried loopback but it told me (in simple terms) that the hard-drive was corrupt and couldn't be read =(
[08:21] <jmarsden> cha0n1x: You could try using one of the special purpose forensic liveCD distributions such as BackTrack
[08:21] <murlidhar> how to change the wallpapers in lxde ?
[08:22] <Johnny> NOTHING!!!!
[08:22] <wbmj> FAJALOU: personally I would uninstall that theme
[08:22] <Johnny> http://www.youtube.com/user/MarcusTheReverent
[08:22] <unop> murlidhar, use something like feh
[08:22] <FAJALOU> wbmj how?? it's not in there.  there is no theme 'aero-gtk-2.0'
[08:23] <murlidhar> unop: lxde supports changing the wallpaper but i don't remember the settings
[08:23] <murlidhar> :(
[08:23] <cha0n1x> jmarsden: If I made an img file of the entire disk instead of just the ntfs partition, would that have caused the problem?
[08:23] <unop> murlidhar, i don't know what lxde is :)
[08:23] <newb> oko
[08:23] <eHome> in ubuntu, what's max size of mysql myisam table ?
[08:24] <wbmj> FAJALOU: Place > Home Folder ... hit ctrl-h.....look for the .themes folder.....aero should be there...it is safe to dellete it
[08:24] <murlidhar> unop: Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment
[08:24] <fwaokda> I'm trying to watch a trailer at apple.com and I must have installed a mplayer plugin. Only problem is the plugin buffers to 99% and doesn't work.  Anyone know how i can fix this?
[08:24] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  the aero-gtk-2.0?
[08:24] <wbmj> FAJALOU: yes
[08:24] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  it's already gone...
[08:24] <unop> eHome, i'd be surprised if ubuntu has patched mysql for that behaviour to change - I should _assume_ it is the value as set by mysql AB
[08:25] <jmarsden> cha0n1x: Perhaps.  There are tools for working with full disk images you can use, tct is one that is packaged for Ubuntu, so maybe try it?
[08:25] <eHome> unop: ok . i ask mysql then ...
[08:25] <unop> murlidhar, yea, i got that much - i really meant to say, i don't know how it works
[08:25] <jmarsden> cha0n1x: You wil ahve some learning to do, tct is intended for relatively experienced forensics staff :-)
[08:25] <wbmj> FAJALOU: probably have to logout/in
[08:25] <murlidhar> :(
[08:25] <FAJALOU> ok will do, brb
[08:25] <cha0n1x> jmarsden: thanks I'm happy to learn :)
[08:25] <s3a> does any1 no of a download page for deluge (bittorrent client) for ubuntu 7.04 32 bit
[08:25] <powertool08> What is the difference in upgrade and safe-upgrade?
[08:25] <murlidhar> anyone is knows lxde ?
[08:26] <arvind_khadri> s3a google it
[08:26] <arvind_khadri> !anyone | murlidhar
[08:26] <joustin> I have a question, when I try to upgrade to 8.04 via the update manager it downloads the files and fails the hash check,I am not sure how to upgrade now
[08:26] <unop> cha0n1x, if your .img file was made with dd, i think the only thing to do would be to write it out on an emtpy partition/disk again to "extract" the contents
[08:26] <Ahadiel> s3a, I guess you haven't tried the DELUGE WEBSITE! http://deluge-torrent.org/downloads.php
[08:26] <joustin> well a problem not question
[08:26] <kjor> I'm trying to open a document (ODT, using OpenOffice 2.3.0/openoffice.org-core 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.4, Fri May 2 07:39:46 UTC) that I was working on yesterday. Now, the progress bar at the bottom of the window flashes momentarily and then (I guess at the render stage) OOo just stops, and consumes ~95% CPU. I already tried making a new .odt container without the two pictures in there, no change whatsoever. content.xml looks OK at a glance. Any sugg
[08:26] <bullgard4> I have got in /etc/alternatives/ 11 stale symlinks. Should I simply delete them?
[08:26] <chad> So while installing ubuntu via cd, I get a HUGE amont of device errors...
[08:26] <chad> why is this?
[08:27] <kjor> chad: have you tried running the CD check (I believe it's in the CD's boot menu)?
[08:27] <murlidhar> s3a: for feisty getting a package would be difficult at this time but google it and see if it helps  .  Otherwise compile it from source.
[08:27] <bullgard4> chad: "a HUGE amont of device errors" is no exact description.
[08:27] <unop> bullgard4,  i believe update-alternatives has a way to delete them - you might want to use update-alternatives so as not to upset its database
[08:27] <cha0n1x> unop: Thanks - I'm thinking I might just have to do that; I'd prefer to leave it as a last resort though hehe
[08:27] <bullgard4> unop: Ok.
[08:27] <chad> yes
[08:27] <chad> works fine
[08:28] <arvind_khadri> s3a, it would be there in repo's mostly
[08:28] <itai-michaelson> murlidhar, did you try /usr/share/lxpanel/images/background.png?
[08:28] <chad> well this device error keeps repeating itself over and over but this a different 5 number digit after it
[08:28] <itai-michaelson> or something to hat effect
[08:28] <murlidhar> itai-michaelson: wait a sec
[08:28] <s3a> Ahadiel: there is only ubuntu 7.10 & ubuntu 8.04
[08:28] <wbmj> chad: That may be ubuntu not finding hardware
[08:28] <chad> with a*
[08:28] <chad> hmm
[08:28] <chad> last time i installed it on the same comp it was fine
[08:29] <chad> no new hardware
[08:29] <chad> maybe i'll try again :|
[08:29] <chad> brb
[08:29] <itai-michaelson> murth_, i suspect it should be in /usr/share/lxde somewhere
[08:29] <Ahadiel> s3a, Maybe try this? http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/ubuntu-feisty-fawn-1/software-for-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/deluge-torrent-on-ubuntu-feisty-fawn
[08:30] <unop> cha0n1x, well, from what i understand . dd creates a byte for byte copy of a filesystem, so the resulting dump is one big binary file and unless you know every contained file's boundary markers - you wouldn't know where files begin and end and therefore wouldn't be able to extract contents - unless off course you could mount the img file
[08:30] <FAJALOU> wbmj: it worked :D but it is huge :)
[08:30] <abhi_> is there any command to put the monitor to sleep/
[08:30] <abhi_> ?
[08:30] <wbmj> FAJALOU: that's good....but what's huge
[08:30] <cha0n1x> unop: If I created a new partition on a non-empty hard-drive, would I lose data if I "Extracted" the contents to that partition?
[08:31] <FAJALOU> wbjm the panels are 21 pixels, they were at 19, and they can't go any lower than 21.
[08:31] <arvind_khadri> abhi_, sleep <duration>
[08:32] <wbmj> FAJALOU: may be the theme your using now
[08:32] <unop> cha0n1x, well, is the .img file an image of a single partition? was the size of that partition less than or equal to the size of this partition? if the answer is yes to both these questions then no, you wouldn't lose data
[08:32] <kjor> cha0n1x: if it's a complete drive dump (/dev/hdX instead of /dev/hdXY) you'll need to write it out to a drive in order to make much use of it. if it's a partition dump, you could mount it loopback.
[08:32] <FAJALOU> wbmj: positive it is; is there a way to fix that easily?
[08:32] <kjor> trying this again. I'm trying to open a document (ODT, using OpenOffice 2.3.0/openoffice.org-core 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.4, Fri May 2 07:39:46 UTC) that I was working on yesterday. Now, the progress bar at the bottom of the window flashes momentarily and then (I guess at the render stage) OOo just stops, and consumes ~95% CPU. I already tried making a new .odt container without the two pictures in there, no change whatsoever. content.xml looks OK at
[08:32] <abhi_> arvind_khadri, : duration in sec/min/hr
[08:32] <cha0n1x> kjor: It was a complete drive dump - If I go and do a partition dump instead, would that solve the loopback problem?
[08:32] <jmarsden> kjor: Have you used tools like sleuthkit to work with disk images?  Ther are definitely things you can do with them...
[08:32] <murlidhar> itai-michaelson: i am not talking about the panel background only desktop background . actually there was a setting , where i could right click on the desktop and change the desktop background with a gui . That gui is somehow not visible now.
[08:32] <murlidhar> itai-michaelson: now only a openbox menu is shown when i right click on the desktop
[08:33] <kjor> if you do a partition dump, you can mount that one using the loopback device and then access it just like you would a regular partition.
[08:33] <arvind_khadri> abhi_, after number suffix s for seconds m for minutes d for days
[08:33] <cha0n1x> unop: it was a complete drive dump, so I think my best bet is to go back and make a partition dump
[08:33] <wbmj> FAJALOU: does the theme change the panel appearance
[08:33] <cha0n1x> unop: It might save a bit of time too as I think it's the start/boot sector of the disk that's stuffed hehe
[08:33] <jmarsden> cha0n1x: if you can, that's fine.  But the full drive dump can be worked with and you can extract partitions from it....
[08:33] <murlidhar> itai-michaelson: i am not talking about the panel background only desktop background . actually there was a setting , where i could right click on the desktop and change the desktop background with a gui . That gui is somehow not visible now.
[08:33] <murlidhar> itai-michaelson: now only a openbox menu is shown when i right click on the desktop
[08:33] <unop> cha0n1x, right, you cannot write a disk dump onto a partition - well you could, but it wouldn't make any sense to do so
[08:34] <unop> cha0n1x, what was wrong with the drive?
[08:34] <abhi_> arvind_khadri, : it does't work when i give it in run command
[08:34] <James_Bomb> #hell is a channel
[08:34] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  the panels are now just bigger, 21 pixels instead of 19...but yes it is definately on the linsta-orange theme
[08:34] <FAJALOU> !off-topic | James_Bomb
[08:34] <arvind_khadri> abhi_, should be done on the terminal
[08:34] <James_Bomb> Is UBOTTU an infobot?
[08:34] <arvind_khadri> James_Bomb, yeah
[08:34] <s3a> Ahadiel: k, thx ill check it out
[08:34] <cha0n1x> unop: it just stopped working - started clicking, and I didn't want it to become completely trashed so i stopped using it
[08:34] <unop> James_Bomb, yes, and a smart one at that too
[08:34] <James_Bomb> Major security flaw in infobots.
[08:34] <jmarsden> unop: you can do stuff with mmls and mmcat to get partition images out of a disk image...
[08:35] <wbmj> FAJALOU: you could adjust the font size....sometimes that helps
[08:35] <cha0n1x> jmarsden: How do I extract partitions from the full drive dump?
[08:35] <abhi_> arvind_khadri, : it will not work. it will make the treminal to sleep..  i want to sleep the monitor.
[08:35] <unop> cha0n1x, see what jmarsden just said
[08:35] <itai-michaelson> murlidhar, what controls the background image in lxde ? openbox? pc4man?
[08:35] <arvind_khadri> abhi_, hmm habg on
[08:35] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  under where?
[08:35] <murlidhar> itai-michaelson: lxde
[08:35] <wbmj> FAJALOU: fonts are a tab in appearances
[08:36] <itai-michaelson> murlidhar, mmm. maybe delete the lxde dot file in your home floder and start again?
[08:36] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  don't think that that will help.
[08:36] <abhi_> arvind_khadri, : r u from india?
[08:36] <FAJALOU> never have been changed...
[08:36] <arvind_khadri> abhi_, yeah i am
[08:36] <abhi_> arvind_khadri, : what u do?
[08:36] <itai-michaelson> murlidhar, just a suggestion ,,never tried it myslef....
[08:36] <joustin> i cant figure out why i cannot upgrade to version 8
[08:36] <murlidhar> itai-michaelson: now only a openbox menu is shown . k i will delete it and see if it works
[08:36] <arvind_khadri> abhi_, am doing engg CSE..
[08:37] <abhi_> arvind_khadri, :yo. i am just passed out engg. cse this yr.
[08:37] <unop> abchirk, arvind is a very indian name - i'd be surprised if he were from anywhere else but india :)
[08:37] <unop> abhi_, ^^
[08:37] <Blaqlight> joustin: sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude install dit-upgrade
[08:37] <abhi_> unop, : what
[08:37] <arvind_khadri> unop, yours too ;)
[08:37] <joustin> hmm
[08:38] <abhi_> arvind_khadri, : which yr
[08:38] <Blaqlight> joustin: sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude install dist-upgrade < I mean
[08:38] <arvind_khadri> abhi_, personal questions in pm please... the ops would scream at us
[08:38] <unop> arvind_khadri, heh, doubt it - i could be machine language :)
[08:38] <Blaqlight> crap.
[08:38] <Blaqlight> still wrong
[08:38] <abhi_> arvind_khadri, :  :)
[08:38] <cha0n1x> jmarsden: How would I go about extracting partitions from the full disk dump? So far I haven't been able to do anything with it =(
[08:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i check my system specs on ubuntu?
[08:39] <Blaqlight> joustin: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install dist-upgrade
[08:39] <jmarsden> cha0n1x: sudo apt-get install sleuthkit and then use mmls on it ?
[08:39] <itai-michaelson> CostaRicanQuaker, there are files in the /proc directory
[08:39] <unop> Blaqlight, it's easier to do.   do-release-upgrade  # it takes care of migrating over your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:39] <Fructose> CostaRicanQuaker: It depends on which specs you want
[08:40] <cha0n1x> jmarsden: I've got mmls - and I used it on the image file, and I can see the partition table for it. What would I do from here?
[08:40] <itai-michaelson> CostaRicanQuaker, try cat /proc/meminfo
[08:40] <joustin> that isnt working for me, it says 0 to instal
[08:40] <jmarsden> cha0n1x: I need to get some sleep, but using the various computer forensics tools you can do a lot with that image.
[08:40] <arvind_khadri> CostaRicanQuaker, du -ck gives used space and df shows free space
[08:40] <jmarsden> cha0n1x: Now youe mmcat to extract the partition you want?
[08:40] <ne2k__> DUCK!
[08:40] <itai-michaelson> CostaRicanQuaker, or cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:40]  * ne2k__ hurls a duck at arvind_khadri
[08:40] <cha0n1x> jmarsden: ok thankyou very much jmarsden appreciate your help :-D
[08:40] <jmarsden> cha0n1x: try mmcat next
[08:41] <arvind_khadri> ne2k__, what??
[08:41] <Fructose> Why do you guys give terminal commands when there are pretty GUI options too? You shouldn't assume everyone wants to use a terminal.
[08:41] <ne2k__> arvind_khadri: quack
[08:41] <itai-michaelson> Fructose, cause they are easier to give over IRC
[08:41] <cha0n1x> jmarsden: Where would I get mmcat? or what is it's package name?
[08:41] <jmarsden> it is part of sleuthkit, so is mmls
[08:41] <Fructose> itai-michaelson: Easier to give, not necessarily receive.
[08:41] <Bert_2> Hi, I'm searching for a good usenet client that has all the stuff I need to read messages and get binaries, any suggestions ?
[08:41] <unop> Fructose, and commands passed over IRC tend to be accurate solutions
[08:41] <Blaqlight> unop why is there always a better way than the way your taught to do things. its depressing.
[08:42] <unop> j/k :)
[08:42] <itai-michaelson> Fructose, try explaining to someone how to download something with synaptic ..it takes years ..it doesnt fit the IRC medium
[08:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm having trouble, opening up html files that i've saved on folders, as soon as i get the mouse pointer on top of the file i get the following error from dolphin :/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[08:42] <unop> Blaqlight, everything evolves, even debian/ubuntu :) things get better in time, people get lazier, etc :)
[08:42] <ne2k__> Fructose: if you don't want to use a terminal then you don't deserve Linux
[08:42] <joustin> do i need to add a software channel for the new release?
[08:42] <Fructose> itai-michaelson: That's what ubottu is for.
[08:42] <arvind_khadri> Blaqlight, people here are volunteers :) he may not be perfect but he helped you
[08:42] <unop> ne2k__, that's a bit harsh
[08:43] <steed> ok
[08:43] <Fructose> ne2k__: That's a bunch of crap.
[08:43] <arvind_khadri> joustin, no you dont
[08:43] <joustin> hmm it doesnt like it when i put it in
[08:43] <Blaqlight> arvind_khadri: wait a minute. I wasn't complaining. its just an observation.
[08:43] <ne2k__> Fructose: in fact, if you don't want to patch your kernel to support that new piece of hardware you just bought, you don't deserve a computer
[08:43] <inta> hy
[08:43] <unop> !ot | ne2k__
[08:44] <arvind_khadri> Blaqlight, its ok ... never mind
[08:44] <inta> sore
[08:44] <xanax`> hello
[08:44]  * ne2k__ wonders how ludicrously over the top he has to go before the sarcasm is evident
[08:44] <Fructose> ne2k__: OK, before it was hard to tell you were being sarcastic.
[08:44] <ne2k__> Fructose:  ;-)
[08:44] <arvind_khadri> xanax`, hi
[08:44] <itai-michaelson> Fructose, i personally prefer the terminal but if someone asks for a GUI i can try to help with that as well, its just that i'm a slow typer
[08:45] <Blaqlight> I believe he removed all doubt of sarcasm...
[08:45] <Fructose> itai-michaelson: Well, for instance, in the case where someone asks for system specs, my guess is they don't know how to use the terminal well. Otherwise, they would probably know that "system specs" is a very broad set of info.
[08:46] <xanax`> does anyone have a Soundmax HD 1988 integrated soundcard ? (and succeed making work in Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[08:46] <itai-michaelson> Fructose, actually I don't know how to find system specs using GUI, I can only help with what I know
[08:47] <Fructose> itai-michaelson: System Monitor
[08:47] <FAJALOU> how can i make my gnome-panels be less pixels go have less pixels than aloud?
[08:47] <FAJALOU> how can i make my gnome-panels be less pixels go have less pixels than allowed?
[08:47] <itai-michaelson> Fructose, great! where do you find that? (i'm not joking)
[08:47] <eordenador> Hi, do anybody know any alternative to network manager?
[08:47] <Fructose> itai-michaelson: System > Administration > System Monitor
[08:47] <FAJALOU> eordenador: wicd
[08:47] <itai-michaelson> Fructose, ok cool
[08:48] <Penmaster> .org
[08:48] <eordenador> FAJALOU: it also doesn't work for me
[08:49] <FAJALOU> eordenador: i have no idea then, network manager has worked perfectly for me.
[08:49] <abhi_> where i can find various cli utilities for ubuntu?
[08:50] <arvind_khadri> abhi_, there is no command from which you can put the monitor to sleep...try using apmd package
[08:50] <joustin> this is odd, i still cant get this distro to upgrade...
[08:50] <Oli``> Pulseaudio just crashed but now no apps will load - they just stall halfway through loading and eventually crash. Everything already running is stable. I've had this problem before and the only way to fix it is a full restart. The only thing that shows in logs is the pulseaudio crash. I've got tons of free RAM and I've memtest86+'d it. All my HDs are fine. Any ideas?
[08:50] <eordenador> FAJALOU: is there any possibility to edit the network manually?
[08:50] <abhi_> arvind_khadri, : ok. what does apmd do
[08:50] <arvind_khadri> joustin, get a alternate cd and make cd as a repo and then try
[08:51] <arvind_khadri> abhi_, its a power management package
[08:51] <joustin> ok
[08:51] <abhi_> arvind_khadri, : ok. let me check it out
[08:52] <itai-michaelson> Fructose, you convinced me!
[08:53] <anirudh> hi can some one help me
[08:53] <Fructose> itai-michaelson: Sweet
[08:53] <itai-michaelson> anirudh, what is the problem?
[08:53] <anirudh> i am using ubuntu 7.04 and
[08:53] <FAJALOU> eordenador: i am not sure
[08:53] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, ask away :)
[08:55]  * arvind_khadri waits for the lag to clear
[08:56] <anirudh> trying to connect to net with a wireless card
[08:56] <arvind_khadri> is the room really silent??
[08:56] <Flannel> joustin: update-manager isn't working?  What error is it giving you?
[08:56] <Flannel> arvind_khadri: yes
[08:57] <itai-michaelson> anirudh, what card do you have?
[08:57] <arvind_khadri> Flannel, oh thanks i was scared that why aint anything happening :D
[08:57] <anirudh> i am not able to use edit /etc/wvdial.conf command
[08:57] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, its gksu gedit /etc/wvdial.conf
[08:58] <neeto> My sound stops working randomly. How can I fix this?
[08:58] <itai-michaelson> anirudh, there is no such command , use gksu gedit
[08:58] <anirudh> hello arvind r u there
[08:58] <amina> Hi everyone,  is there an easy to know the driver my printer is currently using? (8.04)
[08:59] <itai-michaelson> anirudh, are you following some online guide to  get your wireless working?
[08:59] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, yeah
[08:59] <joustin> sorry was afk
[08:59] <milligan> Fresh install of ubuntu. Sound works perfectly, except for in flash.. I don't hear anything. I'm using a usb headset as my output device. Any ideas why flash-sound doesn't work? the videos play perfectly.
[09:00] <joustin> in terminal i get that there is nothing to download, on the update manager it tells me that the hash didnt match after the wget
[09:00] <cha0n1x> How do I find out the offset of a filesystem of an image in sectors?
[09:00] <anirudh> but lastly i have to edit etc/wvdial.conf
[09:00] <Chad> Hello
[09:00] <cha0n1x> using mmls*
[09:00] <joustin> i just burned the alternate cd and i am trying that
[09:00] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, what card do you use???
[09:00] <Chad> Now ubuntu will not resize the partion and create a new one
[09:00] <Chad> partition*
[09:00] <itai-michaelson> anirudh, you edit by using the gedit command
[09:00] <anirudh> reliance zte mg 880
[09:01] <Chad> What should i do now?
[09:01] <Flannel> joustin: update/dist-upgrade won't tell you there is anything to download, because thats not how it works.  What error does update-manager give you exaclty?
[09:01] <Chad> i cannot fully install like this
[09:01] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, are you following some manual?
[09:01] <anirudh> yes
[09:01] <Chad> it gives an error that says no information
[09:01] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, show it to me...
[09:01] <Chad> all it says is unable to resize partition
[09:01] <Akmon> I installed Samba, but under System->Administration there is no Shared Folder options, what's wrong?
[09:01] <Chad> so wtf am i supposed to do?
[09:01] <joustin> in terminal?
[09:01] <itai-michaelson> Chad -can you give more info ,are you in the middle of installing ubuntu?
[09:01] <Chad> yes i defragmented
[09:01] <DistroJockey> anirudh,  wvdial  is an intelligent PPP dialer, which means that it dials a modem and starts PPP in order to connect to the Internet.  (not used for wireless)
[09:02] <arvind_khadri> !language | chad
[09:02] <Chad> Yes i am
[09:02] <Chad> I am in the middle of installing it
[09:02] <itai-michaelson> Chad, what partition are you trying to resize?
[09:02] <Chad> my windows xp one
[09:02] <anirudh> ok
[09:02] <anirudh> wait 1 sec
[09:02] <Chad> it is a 160 gig hard drive
[09:02] <Akmon> I installed Samba, but under System->Administration there is no Shared Folder options, what's wrong?
[09:02] <Chad> with 100 gigs free
[09:02] <itai-michaelson> Chad , FAT or NTFS?
[09:03] <Chad> ntfs
[09:03] <fwaokda> Can someone please take a look at a problem I am having with my laptop locking up once going into standby? -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=864952
[09:03] <itai-michaelson> Chad,  did you defrag it first?
[09:03] <Chad> yes
[09:03] <Chad> fully
[09:03] <joustin> it looks like it is updating now, i will give it a minute
[09:03] <arvind_khadri> Chad, you cant resize a mounted partition
[09:03] <Akmon> I installed Samba, but under System->Administration there is no Shared Folder options, what's wrong? can anyone help?
[09:03] <Chad> btw thanks for you help
[09:04] <joustin> hmm nvm
[09:04] <Chad> a mounted partition?
[09:04] <arvind_khadri> !repeat | Akmon
[09:04] <arvind_khadri> Chad, for resizing a partiton first unmount ti
[09:04] <itai-michaelson> Chad, what I would suggest is using a Gparted CD to resize the partition first , you can also do it in partition magik (on windows)
[09:04] <anirudh> arvind,plzz have a look at this link:http://nandz.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-get-reliance-zte-mg880-working.html
[09:04] <Flannel> Chad: Ubuntu automatically mounts your windows partitions so you can read them, you'll need to unmount it to resize it (its easy to unmount)
[09:05] <Chad> ok how should i unmount it
[09:05] <Chad> Btw thanks for your help guys
[09:05] <MarShall> c
[09:05] <itai-michaelson> Chad,  right click on the icon on your desktop,choose unmount
[09:05] <arvind_khadri> Chad, hang on
[09:05] <arvind_khadri> Chad, sorry it wasnt for you
[09:06] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, hang on
[09:06] <itai-michaelson> Chad the XP partition should appear on your desktop I think
[09:06] <Chad> it's not
[09:06] <Chad> where might it be?
[09:07] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, ok so where do you have problem...what happens when you run sudo wvdial
[09:07] <itai-michaelson> mmm...try places>computer>mnt
[09:07] <DistroJockey> Chad,  mount   will tell you what's mounted where
[09:07] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, i mean sudo wvdialconf
[09:08] <Chad> mnt?
[09:08] <joustin> its trying to resolve dependencies now
[09:08] <itai-michaelson> Chad, sorry places>computer>filesystem>mnt
[09:08] <Chad> i have the ability to mount my harddrive
[09:08] <arvind_khadri> itai-michaelson, please dont give random suggestions
[09:08] <Chad> nothing inside mnt
[09:09] <arvind_khadri> Chad, to check your mounting points check the /etc/mtab
[09:10] <Chad> so do i open up the mtab file?
[09:10] <Chad> should i paste the contents on pastebin?
[09:10] <arvind_khadri> Chad, yeah ...
[09:10] <arvind_khadri> Chad, you learn pretty fast :)
[09:11] <alifah> hai
[09:11] <Chad> ty
[09:11] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, ???
[09:11] <boGGdy> I'm back. ubuntu is installed, I rebooted and I have 'GRUB Loading stage1.5Read Error'. What is that?
[09:11] <Chad> i'm not completely dumb with computers
[09:11] <lazertek> how do i open menu's in enlightement
[09:11] <Chad> just with linux
[09:11] <Chad> :P
[09:11] <Stanton> does anybody know how to setup wireless connection useing linksys WUSB54GSC With SpeedBooster when ya dont even have the internet unless your on windows?
[09:11] <arvind_khadri> boGGdy, are you in Ubuntu now??
[09:11] <Chad> http://pastebin.com/m15343389
[09:12] <LSD|Ninja> Stanton: got wired access?
[09:12] <boGGdy> no, it's a different computer
[09:12] <Fructose> boGGdy: It means your boot loader can't find the partition where the rest of it i s installed.
[09:12] <Stanton> LSD|Ninja, nope
[09:12] <arvind_khadri> boGGdy, did the install there complete??
[09:12] <anirudh> arvind r u there
[09:12] <Chad> arvind_khadri, http://pastebin.com/m15343389
[09:12] <anirudh> http://nandz.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-get-reliance-zte-mg880-working.html
[09:13] <arvind_khadri> Chad, hang on
[09:13] <joustin> it looks like sudo apt-get distro-upgrade is working...
[09:13] <boGGdy> arvind_khadri> yes, it asked for restart, I hit Restart now, I removed the LiveCD and... I got the error
[09:13] <Chad> arvind_khadri: k
[09:13] <anirudh> the manual i follwed is on the abvove link
[09:13] <lazertek> how do i open applications in applications
[09:13] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, i saw that ... what happens when you run sudo wvdialconf
[09:13] <arvind_khadri> boGGdy, re-install grub
[09:13] <anirudh> that works fine
[09:13] <arvind_khadri> !grub | boGGdy
[09:13] <lazertek> i mean how do i open applications in enlightement desktop manager
[09:13] <Stanton> LSD|Ninja, is there not away with out haveint to download stuff?
[09:14] <anirudh> but when try to edit wvdial.conf it shows errors
[09:14] <LSD|Ninja> Why does LinkSys have to make things difficult and mask the actual chip name?
[09:14] <arvind_khadri> Chad, fstab too
[09:14] <Crshman> basic question.....how do i move a directory that has files in it? i'm trying to move a directory and it says "Directory not empty" do i have to use cp, then rm?
[09:14] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, what errors??
[09:14] <joustin> I love this room lol
[09:14] <LSD|Ninja> Stanton: From the looks of things you need ndiswrapper anyway which means getting a hold of the Windows driver for it
[09:14] <Flannel> Crshman: rm -f directory
[09:15] <xanax`> does someone have an Analog Device SoundMax HD 1988 sound card ?
[09:15] <Crshman> Flannel, no thnx ;)
[09:15] <arvind_khadri> Crshman, rm -rf /path/to/directory
[09:15] <Stanton> LSD|Ninja, soo its a good thing i have windows right now?
[09:15] <lazertek>  how do i open applications in enlightenment desktop manager
[09:15] <Crshman> arvind_khadri, again...no thnx ;)
[09:15] <Flannel> Crshman: Eh?  That's how you do it.
[09:15] <boGGdy> arvind_khadri> I'll try that. don't move, I'll be back. ;)
[09:15] <DistroJockey> Crshman, why not?
[09:15] <arvind_khadri> boGGdy, sure :)
[09:15] <anirudh> bash:no such file or directory (or) dont have permissions to write etc/wvdial.conf
[09:15] <Flannel> Crshman: We ban people here for malicious commands
[09:15] <LSD|Ninja> Stanton: sounds like it
[09:15] <Crshman> isn't rm remove? and -f force?
[09:16] <arvind_khadri> anirudh, use this gksu gedit /etc/wvdial.conf
[09:16] <Crshman> where is the destination directory in that command?
[09:16] <joaopinto> Crshman, man rm
[09:16] <Chad> arvind_khadri:  here is fstab http://pastebin.com/m75b298b4
[09:16] <Stanton> LSD|Ninja, soo. um how do i go about this? just find ndiswrapper or some thing?
[09:16] <Flannel> Crshman: Oh....
[09:16] <Flannel> Crshman: Your question reads really well as "remove a directory" not "move" a directory.
[09:16] <lazertek> i mean how do i open applications in enlightement desktop manager
[09:16] <Crshman> ahhh
[09:16] <Crshman> ok
[09:16] <Flannel> Crshman: with the rm at the end and all.
[09:16] <Crshman> sorry
[09:17] <itai-michaelson> Chad, arvind_khadri it would probably be easier with gParted no?
[09:17] <LSD|Ninja> Stanton: ndiswrapper is already in Ubuntu afaik. As far as setting it up goes though I have no idea, I'ven ever had to use it
[09:17] <Crshman> i was quite confused there haha
[09:17] <Flannel> Crshman: mv
[09:17] <anirudh> ok
[09:17] <anirudh> i will try it
[09:17] <anirudh> thanxxx a lot
[09:17] <lazertek> how do i open applications in enlightement desktop enviornment
[09:17] <Crshman> i tried to use mv, but it shoots back that error "Directory not empty"
[09:17] <arvind_khadri> Chad, there are no drives mounted at all ...
[09:17] <Stanton> LSD|Ninja, seeing how its installed i'll see what i can do.. now knowing its there.
[09:18] <Chad> well then why won't it resize the partion D:
[09:18] <rohan> the version of eclipse in ubuntu is very very old. is there any specific reason for this? is eclipse difficult to package?
[09:18] <arvind_khadri> Chad, you try a gparted live cd
[09:18] <Chad> itai-michaelson:  gparted? whats that
[09:18] <Stanton> LSD|Ninja, i am going back to ubuntu.. and see if i can fix it up with wireless......
[09:18] <LSD|Ninja> Stanton: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368931 <- I found that from a quick google search, there may be some ideas there
[09:18] <Stanton> k
[09:18] <itai-michaelson> its the graphic partitioner
[09:18] <arvind_khadri> rohan, ask #ubuntu-motu :)
[09:19] <itai-michaelson> Chad, however using a live gParted Cd or Partition Magic on Windows is the safest option
[09:19] <Flannel> Crshman: Does your destination have files in it already?
[09:19] <Crshman> Flannel, yes
[09:19] <Chad> partition magic do i have to buy that?
[09:19] <itai-michaelson> Chad, yes
[09:19] <itai-michaelson> Chad, gparted is free
[09:19] <boGGdy> arvind_khadri> after find /boot/grub/stage1 I got (hd0,0). should I use grub> root (hd0,0) now?
[09:20] <sawyer__> hello all
[09:20] <itai-michaelson> Chad, try alt+F2 in the screen that pops up write sudo gparted
[09:20] <Chad> what i want to do is take the free space on my hard drive and make it a new partition so that ubuntu can install
[09:20] <sawyer__> i'm having trouble updating to 8.04. localedef gets stuck on 100% CPU
[09:20] <Crshman> Flannel, no worries i'm just going to use a cp command then just rm the old directory
[09:20] <sawyer__> and becomes a zombie
[09:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> i installed ubuntu from a hardy kubuntu cd then installed ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu destop, now i don't want to lose the programs from gnome or kde but want to get rid of them and use xfce alone as its fastest on my 248 mb ram computer, how can i dothis?
[09:21] <sawyer__> can anyone direct me anywhere on this? i've read i should remove the binary but that didn't help
[09:21] <amina> I don't have a libsane.rules on my system, is it normal? Many tutorials talk about modifying it and I'm wondering if it might reveal that there's something wrong with my system...
[09:21] <Chad> itai-michaelson: k i did, it's scanning
[09:21] <Chad> itai-michaelson: k now what?
[09:21] <itai-michaelson> Chad,  it should give you a graphic image of your disc
[09:21] <eshat> Hi all
[09:21] <Chad> yeah
[09:21] <itai-michaelson> you should be able to see your NTFS shares
[09:21] <eshat> Hi all, i want to remove the shutdown button in the shutdown window of XFCE, where can i change that ?
[09:22] <FAJALOU> can anyone here help me with coding a GTK theme?  right now, i am customizing a code in my ~/.themes  but i cannot get the menu-bar to show up as black/gray and not funky colors.  any help?
[09:22] <Chad> yeah
[09:22] <itai-michaelson> you can right-click on them and choose "unmount"
[09:22] <itai-michaelson> you can also resize them....
[09:22] <Chad> i see a bar thats half full
[09:22] <Chad> how do i take the empty part and make it into a partition?
[09:23] <itai-michaelson> Chad rightclick on it
[09:23] <Chad> itai-michaelson: ok i resized it i now have a grey bar that says unused space
[09:23] <itai-michaelson> CostaRicanQuaker, you can just choose XFCe from the login screen , you should be fine
[09:24] <Chad> itai-michaelson: i mean unallocated
[09:24] <sawyer__> so... no one knows about this localedef problem?
[09:24] <itai-michaelson> Chad, right click on that to create a partition
[09:24] <Chad> itai-michaelson: what filesystem should i put the new partition as
[09:24] <FAJALOU> can anyone here help me with coding a GTK theme?  right now, i am customizing a code in my ~/.themes  but i cannot get the menu-bar to show up as black/gray and not funky colors.  any help?
[09:24] <itai-michaelson> Chad, actually - you can leave it like that, when you install Ubuntu use the "unlocate space"
[09:25] <boGGdy> where is arvind_khadri?
[09:25] <Chad> itai-michaelson: oh ok
[09:25] <arvind_k> boGGdy, am here
[09:25] <boGGdy> arvind_khadri> after find /boot/grub/stage1 I got (hd0,0). should I use grub> root (hd0,0) now?
[09:25] <mikea87> hi, where can I find logs from system start - this covered by splash?
[09:25] <itai-michaelson> Chad,  I belive you need to press "apply" or something
[09:25] <arvind_k> boGGdy, ya
[09:25] <arvind_k> mikea87, /var/log/boot
[09:25] <Chad> itai-michaelson: right now im back at the ubuntu install screen
[09:26] <boGGdy> arvind_k> Error 27: Unrecognized command :((
[09:26] <arvind_k> boGGdy, hang on ...
[09:26] <boGGdy> arvind_k> my mistake
[09:26] <Chad> itai-michaelson: i hit apply its now doing it
[09:26] <boGGdy> was a typo
[09:26] <fwaokda> how come I cannot see my documents and settings/user  folders in my other partition that runs windows?
[09:26] <arvind_k> boGGdy, hmm ...
[09:26] <itai-michaelson> Chad, might take a while
[09:26] <boGGdy> hang on
[09:27] <arvind_k> boGGdy, sure
[09:27] <mikea87> there's nothing in /var/log/boot
[09:27] <itai-michaelson> fwaokda, can you see other files?
[09:27] <arvind_k> fwaokda, you can see them
[09:27] <boGGdy> rebooting...
[09:27] <fwaokda> itai-michaelson, yup like in program files and others but when i navigate to documents and settings i can't see any user folders
[09:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> what is the *buntu/GNU/Linux homologue to M$ windows' alt+ctrl+del'
[09:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?*
[09:28] <boGGdy> :(((( GRUB read Error
[09:28] <arvind_k> CostaRicanQuaker, you can only restart X here... ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:28] <fwaokda> found a way! woo
[09:28] <itai-michaelson> fwaokda, are those considered "hidden files" in Windows ? am not sure what you are refering to actually
[09:29] <arvind_k> boGGdy, maybe your partitions are not set properly
[09:29] <boGGdy> arvind_k> can it be because the HDD is set slave?
[09:29] <fwaokda> itai-michaelson, well i thought I found a way... im trying to find my application data folders
[09:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> ctrl+alt+backspace= restart only or does it list processes to be abel to terminate some?
[09:29] <itai-michaelson> fwaokda, what path are looking in?
[09:29] <boGGdy> arvind_k> I did the Entire disk, guided
[09:29] <fwaokda> itai-michaelson, just found it
[09:30] <arvind_k> boGGdy, well i did a set up at some place where the drive was a slave but had no probs...
[09:30] <itai-michaelson> fwaokda, good!
[09:30] <boGGdy> should I try manual?
[09:30] <arvind_k> boGGdy, hmm ... ya i feel so ...try it...
[09:30] <boGGdy> and what type of partition do I choose there?
[09:30] <arvind_k> boGGdy, ext3
[09:31] <fwaokda> itai-michaelson, thanks for the help!
[09:31] <itai-michaelson> fwaokda, np
[09:31] <boGGdy> cool, but I think I'll head to bed now, it's 5:30 here
[09:31] <boGGdy> :))
[09:31] <boGGdy> thank you very much for your help
[09:31] <arvind_k> boGGdy, for the root and ya dont forget to set mount points for the rest..or else if tiresome to mount them
[09:31] <arvind_k> boGGdy, welcome .. try it when you feel like :)
[09:31] <boGGdy> arvind_k, mount points???
[09:32] <itai-michaelson> CostaRicanQuaker, you can make ctrl+alt+del display system-monitor like this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19234
[09:32] <arvind_k> boGGdy, the other partitions should have mount point...
[09:32] <boGGdy> I only need one partition
[09:32] <boGGdy> the entire disk
[09:33] <arvind_k> boGGdy, ohh ok
[09:33] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, + a swap partition
[09:33] <ferronica> how to update vlc in ubuntu 8.04?
[09:33] <arvind_k> boGGdy, yeah a swap but isnt too necesary if you have RAM of 4gb or so
[09:33] <Thisdude> hey just wondering when im upgrading from gutsy to hardy i was wondering am i able to keep all of my current settings? and all of my stuff?
[09:33] <ferronica> right now using VLC media player 0.8.6e want to update to VLC media player 0.8.6h
[09:33] <boGGdy> arvind_k> I only have 2
[09:33] <vidhu> hello, i dont have chroot in my bin or sbin directory why is it so? i have ubuntu 8.04
[09:33] <arvind_k> Thisdude, yeah you can
[09:34] <arvind_k> boGGdy, keep a swap but anyways wont affect much
[09:34] <itai-michaelson> Thisdude, you should be able to, however I would make a backup,.
[09:34] <boGGdy> arvind_k> basically, I need 2 partitions, right?
[09:34] <Thisdude> so when im doing the partition am i supposd to use the whole disk or partition it and copy my stuff accross
[09:34] <arvind_k> boGGdy, yeah
[09:34] <arvind_k> boGGdy, gtg
[09:35] <boGGdy> ok, got it, Thanks again
[09:35] <itai-michaelson> Thisdude, to do that you need a separate /home partition
[09:36] <Thisdude> ok so if you were gunna do it when it would you use the whole disk or let it make a second partition?
[09:36] <itai-michaelson> Thisdude , you are talking about reinstalling, upgrading can be done through the update manger
[09:37] <Thisdude> ohhh whicked so much easier thanks
[09:37] <itai-michaelson> Thisdude, if you want to keep your setting during a reinstall you need to create a separte /home partiton first!
[09:37] <Thisdude> id rather just upgrade it i thought thats how to do it
[09:37] <itai-michaelson> Thisdude, actually creating a separate /home and reinstalling is much safer , i think
[09:39] <itai-michaelson> Thisdude each method has its advanatages and disadvantages
[09:39] <boGGdy> Do I have to set up a mount point for the first partition (ext3)?
[09:40] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, yep   /
[09:40] <EugenMayer> after is switched to "normal visual effects" in the settings, my screen is white after login. How can i put bet that option through console / safe-mode ?
[09:40] <boGGdy> DistroJockey> what kind?
[09:40] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, root = /
[09:41] <Flannel> boGGdy: / isn't /root though
[09:42] <boGGdy> DistroJockey> for the swap partition, should it be primary, swap area, at the end of the disk?
[09:42] <DistroJockey> Flannel, was going to say that :) But then thought it's  /home/root anyway :)
[09:42] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, yep, that will be fine
[09:42] <boGGdy> I can't set up a mount point for it, is it normal?
[09:43] <DistroJockey> Flannel, ohh, I be wrong, sorry
[09:43] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, nope, just tell it to be swap
[09:43] <boGGdy> got it
[09:45] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, how big is that drive you are using?
[09:45] <Blaqlight> EugenMayer: <CTRL><ALT>BKSP
[09:45] <boGGdy> in the Step7, I have the Advanced button. Install boot loader is checked and the device is hd0
[09:45] <boGGdy> DistroJockey> 20Gb
[09:46] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, ahh, k. It's the only drive in the system atm?
[09:46] <boGGdy> DistroJockey> I removed the SATA drive to be sure I won't mess up something
[09:46] <boGGdy> :))
[09:46] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, good plan :) Yep, install to (hd0)
[09:47] <boGGdy> does it make any difference if the HDD is on IDE0 or IDE1?
[09:48] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, not at this stage
[09:48] <boGGdy> but... it will?
[09:48] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, may do. I recommend having it on IDE0
[09:49] <boGGdy> i see
[09:49] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, would only matter if you installed another IDE drive really
[09:49] <boGGdy> I have tho optical drives hooked on IDE0
[09:49] <boGGdy> *two
[09:49] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, that will be fine leaving as is
[09:50] <Daniel1> it's true that the root passworld have to be set after the installation and that the passworld of the user-id is a fake-root passworld?
[09:51] <Blaqlight> Daniel1: which distro is this
[09:51] <itai-michaelson> in ubuntu you dont need to set the root password
[09:51] <DistroJockey> !root | Daniel1
[09:52] <m3gach33zy> shit can someone help me out
[09:52] <Blaqlight> lol DistroJockey I forget where Im at sometimes Im also in ##linux. and its a valid question there.
[09:52] <itai-michaelson> m3gach33zy, maybe, whats the problem?
[09:52] <jussi01> !ohmy | m3gach33zy
[09:52] <DistroJockey> Blaqlight, heh, fair enough :)
[09:53] <Daniel1> Blaqlight: I use xubuntu
[09:53] <Brian88> Why I cannot activate normal or extra desktop effect. I have seen a laptop with 8MB shared VGA card can run extra desktop effect. My VGA card is old Nvidia Riva 64MB AGP
[09:53] <m3gach33zy> itai-michaelson: well i changed my screen resolution by accident when trying to watch a movie... now the resolution is all fucked up and i cant click anything but applications
[09:53] <Flannel> !language | m3gach33zy
[09:53] <m3gach33zy> sorry
[09:53] <ferronica> how to add applet to AWN?
[09:54] <vsdeepti> fff
[09:54] <ApOgEE-> what is the best NZB client for Ubuntu?
[09:54] <itai-michaelson> m3gach33zy, how did you change the screen resolution?
[09:54] <Blaqlight> Daniel1: there most don't use ubuntu. :(
[09:54] <DistroJockey> Brian88, any nvidia restricted drivers listed but not used in  System - Administration - Hardware Drivers  ?
[09:54] <Blaqlight> Daniel1: or any variation therein.
[09:54] <m3gach33zy> itai-michaelson: i went to one of the top tabs on the taskbar area.... i cant see that drop down menu nor click on it anymore because its all messed up
[09:55] <m3gach33zy> itai-michaelson: i can only click on a few things now
[09:55] <itai-michaelson> m3gach33zy, did you try loging out and login in?
[09:55] <DistroJockey> !best | ApOgEE-
[09:55] <itai-michaelson> m3gach33zy, sorry need to go, i'm sure someone will be able to help you out, maybe also post on the forum
[09:56] <m3gach33zy> can someone help me out with changing the screen resolution?
[09:56] <mefi> Hey people! Having problems! Ubuntu sometimes quits to black-screen, it's really a full-screen Terminal which I can't close, and then reboots
[09:56] <boGGdy> DistroJockey> Install complete> reboot now. is supposed to boot from hdd, right?
[09:56] <DistroJockey> Bogaurd, yep
[09:56] <DistroJockey> Bogaurd, sorry
[09:56] <Brian88> DistroJockey: there are one : NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics driver (legacy cards), it is  Not in Use, if I use it my computer is freezing, why..?
[09:57] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, yep :)
[09:57] <mefi> In my syslog it says: Jul 20 21:00:10 viktor-desktop kernel: [ 1758.760214] ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
[09:57] <mefi> Jul 20 21:00:12 viktor-desktop exiting on signal 15
[09:57] <boGGdy> GRUB Read Error
[09:57] <Blaqlight> m3gach33zy: ive completely been not paying attention.. what was the problem?
[09:57] <DistroJockey> Brian88, nvidia drivers can be a bit dodgy at times
[09:57] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, :(
[09:58] <cha0n1x> Is it safe to mount an entire raw hard-drive (not just partition) image made using dd to a partition without over-writing the entire drive?
[09:58] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, what error number?
[09:58] <boGGdy> no number, that's all
[09:58] <boGGdy> GRUB Read Error
[09:58] <m3gach33zy> Blaqlight: i changed the screen resolution and now its all messed up and huge and i cant get back to the drop down menu that i was at before
[09:58] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, k, looking for a solution
[09:59] <reema> hey m trying to build package on ubuntu..but y du v neeed to use fakeroot
[09:59] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, as you have tried install a couple of times now right?
[09:59] <reema> i mean y du v need root privileges
[09:59] <boGGdy> DistroJockey> right
[09:59] <anirudh> need some help
[09:59] <bullgard4> /var/log/Xorg.0.log reports: "Output LVDS has no monitor section." What does 'LVDS' stand for? "Low Volume Dissemination System"?
[09:59] <Blaqlight> ok do this : logout and log into gnome/kde in safe-mode. unless you already tried it.
[09:59] <boGGdy> DistroJockey> maybe it will help you to know that my windows HDD won't boot?
[09:59] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, and when you did that manual partitioning you removed all partitions that were there before you started making new ones right?
[10:00] <boGGdy> yes
[10:00] <reema> kan anybody help wid the ubuntu packaging plaese
[10:00] <anirudh> can someone help me
[10:00] <boGGdy> if i try the other disk (with XP), the computer freezes at Verifying DMI Pool Data
[10:00] <Rakan> Hello, Windows XP restored it's boot record to MBR and i can't access ubuntu now
[10:00] <mefi> or help me :P having a terribly idiotic problem
[10:00] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, might point to a controller failure, but can see Ubuntu installing if that was the case (unless it does limited checks)
[10:01] <Rakan> How can i restore GRUB boot loader in MBR
[10:01] <Flannel> !grub | Rakan
[10:01] <Flannel> Rakan: first link
[10:01] <boGGdy> the other HDD is a SATA, this is IDE
[10:01] <mefi> Having problem with computer shutting itself down!!!!
[10:01] <anirudh> i cannot edit /etc/wvdial.conf
[10:02] <carl> hdksha
[10:03] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, may have found something :  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19553
[10:03] <boGGdy> let me see
[10:03] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, see 3rd post
[10:03] <Verse> Trackpad frozen after suspend/resume - any resources to help diagnose this?
[10:03] <mefi> Anyone knows how to solve ubuntu shutting itself down with signal 15?
[10:03] <Flannel> anirudh: use sudo
[10:04] <cha0n1x> Is it safe to mount an entire raw hard-drive (not just partition) image made using dd to a partition without over-writing the entire drive?
[10:04] <quitte> hi. is there a way to setup a second ppp connection with the nm applet?
[10:04] <boGGdy> DMA/UDMA? let me try
[10:04] <Blaqlight> funny thing.. ive used ubuntu for so long I forgot the other major bootloader's name. lol
[10:04] <DistroJockey> anirudh, and edit is not a command, gedit is though
[10:04] <anirudh> can u give me the command in full
[10:05] <mefi> Jul 20 21:00:12 viktor-desktop exiting on signal 15
[10:05] <Flannel> anirudh: sudo nano /etc/wvdail.conf
[10:05] <Brian88> DistroJockey: so how to fix it, I can run desktop effect but not crashing my system
[10:05] <Flannel> anirudh: or gksu "gedit /etc/wvdail.conf"
[10:05] <anirudh> distro,then how can i /etc/wvdial.conf
[10:06] <DistroJockey> Brian88, "but not crashing my system"  that be good yes?
[10:06] <boGGdy> DistroJockey> I only have IDE DMA Transfer Access (Enabled). I wonder if this is the same
[10:06] <anirudh> using gedit i m able to edit but not able to save it
[10:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> question, i'm on xfce, how can i make the network section on the apps menu say internet like on gnome and kde?
[10:06] <mefi> People, I need serious help :/
[10:06] <DistroJockey> anirudh, as you were told earlier:   gksu gedit /etc/wvdial.conf      or what Flannel said
[10:06] <Blaqlight> quitte: if the other interface exists, it will show in nm-applet.
[10:07] <Brian88> DistroJockey: if I activate the driver it will crash my system, so how to keep my system runs well but with desktop effect (which requires the *bad* nvidia driver)
[10:07] <ubuntoo> WHICH IS BETTER VLC OR MPLAYER ( MPLAYER ASKS FOR A LOT OF SPACE RELATIVELY  IS IT WORTH?)
[10:08] <boGGdy> DistroJockey> I think I got it, bot I have: CHS, LBA, Large, Auto. What should I try?
[10:08] <Blaqlight> ubuntoo: its personaly preference.
[10:08] <quitte> Blaqlight: it's a umts card that shows up as ttyS2.
[10:08] <DistroJockey> Brian88, might need to change  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to make it not crash or get a new card or not use desktop effects
[10:08] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, LBA should do the job
[10:08] <m3gach33zy> okay someone help me out here... why cant i change the screen resolution higher than 640x480?
[10:08] <Blaqlight> m3gach33zy: did you fix it?
[10:09] <anirudh> by using this i am able to enter into text editor but it is regretting to sve the file.it is asking to save with some other name
[10:09] <m3gach33zy> Blaqlight: no but i figured out a way to get to the menu i was at
[10:09] <m3gach33zy> Blaqlight: which really isnt helping at all
[10:09] <quitte> Blaqlight: so it doesn't show up as there already as a ppp connection and no other eth device to bind to
[10:09] <Brian88> DistroJockey: is there any apps other than ubuntu's default to make desktop effects
[10:09] <boGGdy> DistroJockey> same error
[10:09] <boGGdy> :((((
[10:09] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, is there a separate section for the DMA stuff?
[10:09] <Blaqlight> m3gach33zy: so its not showing the resolution then
[10:09] <boGGdy> I went to the HDD screen
[10:09] <Blaqlight> ?
[10:10] <anirudh> by using this i am able to enter into text editor but it is regretting to sve the file.it is asking to save with some other name
[10:10] <m3gach33zy> Blaqlight: well it shows some resolutions to choose from but it wont go any higher than 640x480
[10:10] <Blaqlight> quitte: does the actual interface show in lspci -v?
[10:10] <m3gach33zy> Blaqlight: i'm not sure why it wont go back now.... all i did was try to watch a movie via VGA cable
[10:11] <boGGdy> and it has Access mode. i'll try now Large
[10:11] <DistroJockey> Brian88, probably, but not sure they would help
[10:11] <m3gach33zy> Blaqlight: i switched screens to make a dual screen but now the resolution wont go back
[10:11] <boGGdy> another error now: GRUB Loading stage1.5Read Error
[10:12] <boGGdy> I'll try to reinstall GRUB later. I really need some sleep. thank you for your patience
[10:12] <Blaqlight> m3gach33zy: alright sometimes I have to actually restart for xorg to reevaluate whats available. perhaps that might help?
[10:12] <DistroJockey> boGGdy, *nods* no problem, good luck
[10:12] <m3gach33zy> we'll see just  a sec i might hav esomething here
[10:12] <boGGdy> see ya around
[10:13] <mefi> Computer is shutting itself down! Help! Not overheating - it must be some ubuntu malfunction!
[10:13] <zetheroo> is there any way to use apt-cacher over DHCP?
[10:14] <m3gach33zy> Blaqlight: good god i got it geeze
[10:14] <ubuntoo> mefi :do you get any error messages or check the terminal and see the message it gives befor shutting down .
[10:15] <m3gach33zy> Blaqlight: stupid thing changed from 1024x768 to some sort of weird resolution
[10:15] <mefi> ubuntoo:
[10:15] <mefi> Jul 20 21:00:12 viktor-desktop exiting on signal 15
[10:15] <m3gach33zy> i couldnt change it because i had some sort of weird setting changed
[10:16] <mefi> What happens is that ubuntu quits to a full-screen terminal, and waits for my input. I can't return to desktop
[10:17] <Blaqlight> m3gach33zy: so its fixed now?
[10:17] <m3gach33zy> Blaqlight: yeah thanks
[10:17] <anirudh4> by using this i am able to enter into text editor but it is regretting to sve the file.it is asking to save with some other name
[10:17] <zetheroo> anyone use apt-cacher over DHCP?
[10:17] <Blaqlight> m3gach33zy: I have to ful reboot when I remove my HDTV from my laptop... xorg does strange things when I do.
[10:17] <m3gach33zy> Blaqlight: i just gotta figure out what my resolution was before... its all weird now
[10:19] <ubuntoo> mefi : alt+F7 dint help is it?
[10:19] <amina> Is it possible to open a terminal at the current location in GNOME's file explorer?
[10:19] <mefi> ubuntoo: what, when in terminal?
[10:20] <DistroJockey> anirudh4, Using what? Last time you spoke was over 10 mins ago and as a different name.
[10:20] <ubuntoo> mefi : yea
[10:20] <ubuntoo> mefi : also check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398750&highlight=Exiting+on+signal+15
[10:20] <Blaqlight> quitte: does the interface show when you do lspci -v in a terminal?
[10:20] <mefi> ubuntoo: yeah, I'm reading it again :/ not giving me any hints though
[10:21] <mefi> unbuntoo: will try that key-combo next time
[10:22] <mefi> ubuntoo: might have to do with my graphics-set up, cause 2 days ago I could clone my desktoip to TV, but now I ain't getting any output on the TV anymore.
[10:22] <Blaqlight> quitte: lspci -v will show the interface if ubuntu detected it.
[10:24] <fwaokda> My window title bars are all kinds of glitchy how can I fix them?
[10:24] <kaushal> hi
[10:24] <kaushal> where can i get jboss for ubuntu8.04
[10:24] <DistroJockey> amina, install   nautilus-open-terminal
[10:24] <ubuntoo> mefi : you could get into the recovery mode and try reverting the changes . well i just think the xserver is screwed so try installin the graphic driver again then..but reason for restartin then confuses me
[10:25] <Blaqlight> fwaokda: did you recently install a new theme?
[10:25] <lazertek> how do i open applications in enlightenment desktop enviornment
[10:25] <fwaokda> Blaqlight, nope... if i had to guess its something with compiz since the advanced settings were installed for that recently
[10:25] <rapid> how to reset all the wireless networking.. network manager is not showing up anymore. not sure what i did.
[10:25] <ubuntoo> mefi : you could do that from fullscreen terminal "tty1" if it doesnt restart
[10:26] <mefi> ubuntoo: okay. Yeah I just made a couple of changes in my graphics driver, so well see after enxt reboot. The thing is that I don't know if it reboots itself.. last time I entered sudo -s and then restart
[10:26] <mefi> ubuntoo: ttyl, k
[10:26] <Flannel> lazertek: try ##enlightenment
[10:26] <Blaqlight> fwaokda: if thats the case either type ccsm into a terminal to get the advanced settings dialog.
[10:26] <lazertek> how do i open applications in enlightenment desktop enviornment
[10:26] <skurakai> hi. is possible integrate to nautilus "add to rhythmbox playlist" ?
[10:27] <lazertek> Flannel: nobody is on there
[10:27] <fwaokda> Blaqlight, i can get the the settings windows but i dont know what to change once I get there.
[10:27] <kaushal> where can i get jboss for ubuntu8.04
[10:27] <Blaqlight> fwaokda: or System > Appearence > Advanced and turn down the setting some
[10:27] <Blaqlight> fwaokda: you running fusion icon or ccsm?
[10:28] <fwaokda> Blaqlight, i dont recall installing any of that
[10:29] <n3o> hi all, where are the compizconfig settings saved?
[10:29] <DistroJockey> amina, you may need to restart for something to show up though
[10:29] <Blaqlight> alright then you used the appearence dialog in gnome to change the degree of settings?
[10:30] <mefi> I'm don't have authority to move a folder into a specified folder in Ubuntu, how to be able to do that?
[10:31] <mefi> oops, I don't*
[10:31] <Blaqlight> fwaokda: if you goto System > Preferences  and find Advanced Desktop Effects Settings then you have CCSM installed
[10:31] <Blaqlight> fwaokda: use that to change the settins
[10:31] <Blaqlight> fwaokda: if not change it through appearence in that same menu
[10:32] <ubuntoo> mefi : u can do anything in your home folder . outside that you`ll need root previlages
[10:32] <mefi> ubuntoo: and how do I get those?
[10:32] <Flannel> mefi: sudo
[10:32] <mefi> Flannel, ubuntoo: I want to move a folder into the Themes folder
[10:32] <Flannel> mefi: sudo cp src dest
[10:33] <swamptin> So what is smb.conf?
[10:34] <soy> hola a tod@s
[10:34] <Flannel> !es | soy
[10:34] <Blaqlight> swamptin: its your samba configuration file.
[10:34] <ubuntoo> mefi :  ur gui is not working rite
[10:34] <swamptin> Blaqlight: so keep the setting that are on it already? As in, follow to prompted option?
[10:35] <Blaqlight> swamptin: I have no idea what your doing, you asked what it was.
[10:35] <swamptin> Blaqlight: fair enough. Very valid point.
[10:36] <mefi> ubuntoo, flannel: Just happened again
[10:36] <mefi> ubuntoo: just when I clicked on the 'show desktop' button
[10:37] <mefi> piece of shit
[10:37] <ubuntoo> mefi :  hey
[10:37] <ubuntoo> mefi : try reverting the setting and remove the app you used for that tv
[10:38] <mefi> ubuntoo: yeah I'm gonna try removing my ati catalyst driver
[10:38] <soy> kjkj
[10:39] <mefi> ubuntoo: just can't find the package...
[10:39] <amina> DistroJockey, thanks a lot that's what I was looking for
[10:40] <DistroJockey> amina, excellent, you're welcome
[10:40] <ubuntoo> mefi : search in synaptic
[10:40] <Blaqlight> mefi: apt-cache search filename
[10:40] <DistroJockey> amina, you needed to reboot?
[10:40] <Cindy> Hola
[10:40] <gilead> hello
[10:40] <Cindy> alguien habla español
[10:41] <H__> !es
[10:41] <mefi> ubuntoo, Blaqlight: searched in Add/remove, found one with same filename, but not installed. Can't install it cause of conflict with other package
[10:41] <mefi> ubuntoo, Blaqlight: searched in Add/remove, found one with same filename, but not installed. Can't find package in synaptic
[10:41] <mefi> oops double
[10:41] <gilead> how can I disable (per-device ideally) automatic loading of USB mass storage driver?
[10:41] <ubuntoo> mefi : did you try what Blaqlight told
[10:42] <Blaqlight> mefi which other package. and do you need the other program.
[10:42] <mefi> ubuntoo, Blaqlight: I've got ATI Catalyst Control Center, need to uninstall
[10:42] <mefi> ubuntoo: in terminal?
[10:43] <Blaqlight> sudo aptitude -purge filename
[10:43] <mefi> Blaqligh: I don't know the filename though? Or is it the packages name simply?
[10:43] <Blaqlight> one second
[10:44] <ubuntoo> mefi : try #sh /usr/share/fglrx/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[10:45] <mefi> ubuntoo: nothing
[10:45] <Blaqlight> im not finding the package name by doing apt-cache search
[10:46] <amina> DistroJockey, I can't reboot now but it's not working yet (I saw screenshots on a website so I now it will suit my needs) so I guess you do need to reboot
[10:46] <mefi> blaqlight, ubuntoo: me neither, searched fglrx, found a few ATI drivers
[10:47] <DistroJockey> amina, yeah, I installed it to test, and have not seen anything, so guessed a reboot is needed. Or probably just a restart of nautilus really
[10:47] <Crshman> hi all i have dual monitors on my laptop, how do i tell gnome to default to my laptop screen rather than my external monitor?
[10:47] <mefi> ubuntoo, Blaqlight: Should I uninstall all those drivers that are bound to ATI?
[10:47] <Blaqlight> its hard to troubleshoot if not even you know the name of the offending package.
[10:47] <Mraks> can someone help me with genius 8x6 tablet, i installed it but it won't move cursor :3
[10:48] <x3on> can anyone recomend a good GUI-graphics based app for showing wireless signal strength?
[10:48] <DistroJockey> amina, yep,   sudo killall nautilus     did the job :)
[10:48] <ubuntoo> mefi : yea anythin realted to ati just uninstall  we`ll see if it stops
[10:48] <x3on> to show if im getting "hot" or "colder" to a signal
[10:49] <LSD|Ninja> x3on: you mean better than the bar graph in network manager?
[10:49] <mefi> Blaqlight: Yeah, but I've only got 2 packages relative to ATI, can try
[10:49] <Blaqlight> mefi: that might not be a good idea. you need the name of the package you want to remove.
[10:49] <Blaqlight> x3on: nm-applet in gnome
[10:49] <mefi> ubuntoo: There is one driver not installed, if I mark that one, 3 others are marked for uninstall...
[10:49] <mefi> Blaqlight: why is that?
[10:50] <amina> DistroJockey: yes, it works !
[10:50] <DistroJockey> amina, :)
[10:50] <skurakai> hi. how can i play in Nautilus select directory with Rhythmbox? For Amarok is script nautilus-play-amarok but for Rhythmbox i can't find :(
[10:51] <mefi> Are there any key-binds that would quit ubuntu to a full-screen terminal?
[10:51] <vox> mefi: ctrl-alt-f1
[10:51] <Blaqlight> mefi: just blindly uninstalling stuff will potenially break your system/packages.
[10:51] <ubuntoo> mefi : ctrl+alt+f1  to f6 all are terminals
[10:51] <mefi> ubuntoo, vox: okay... jsut wondering..
[10:52] <Blaise> help!  auto update just installed 'fglrx-kernel-source-envy' for me, and now when I restart my system will only go into low graphics mode :(
[10:52] <Blaqlight> mefi: also know as tty's
[10:52] <mefi> Blaqlight: I guess... but I don't know at all what to do now :(
[10:52] <mefi> Blaqlight: I'm dualbooting this with Vista, don't wanna use Ubuntu if it won't work properly....
[10:54] <mefi> Blaqlight: is it possible to, as in windows, restore system to restorepoints?
[10:54] <Blaqlight> mefi: fair enough but linux is all about learning and probing and being better than preinstalled/preworking fun.
[10:54] <Blaqlight> mefi: only with backups
[10:55] <mefi> Blaqlight: ok.. well so damn irritating since it was working fine first couple of days
[10:55] <Blaqlight> there aren't any "restore points" so to speak. it would be a security risk among others.
[10:56] <Mraks> i realy need help with drawing tablet... or i can't work in ubuntu:S Pls if anyone has expirience with tablets, HELP <3
[10:56] <mefi> okey
[10:56] <Blaqlight> mefi: so what changed between then and now...
[10:56] <Blaqlight> mefi: installing the ati drivers?
[10:57] <linduxed> is anyone aware of a firefox feature or addon that makes you able to move you to the location bar with one or two KEYstrokes?
[10:57] <mefi> Blaqlight: I'm not sure. I had problems with the resolutions at first, so a lot of changes were made... but would Ubuntu come with ATI drivers pre-installed?
[10:57] <Maior> linduxed: you mean, ^l?
[10:58] <Blaqlight> mefi: no it wouldn't they are restricted drivers.
[10:58] <swamptin> heya, just got one more question while I'm upgrading to 8.04 --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28950/
[10:58] <DistroJockey> linduxed,  alt+d   ?
[10:59] <Blaqlight> mefi: as are the nvida ones
[10:59] <mefi> Blaqlight: so then I might want to try removing everything that has to do with ATI?
[10:59] <Blaise> hello, I've a problem with my ati driver, can someone help please?
[11:00] <Blaqlight> DistroJockey: Im no where near using cutting edge software.. darn 56k so Im out of luck on that
[11:00] <DistroJockey> Blaise, depends what the problem is
[11:00] <mefi> Blaise: you got problems with ATI too, do you :P?
[11:00] <DistroJockey> Blaqlight, ahh, well, was just something I noticed that related to the convo at the time :)
[11:00]  * Guilou is away: Mangeage
[11:01] <mefi> damn, gotta go
[11:01] <Blaqlight> mefi: seems like you have no other choice.
[11:01] <Blaise> DistroJockey, Synaptic just installed an fglrx-ati-kernal-envy thing and it screwed my display
[11:01] <eordenador> hi, I have succesfully configured my laptop to connect to my router at the boot with this script: http://helektron.com/2006/12/10/conecta-tu-wifi-en-ubuntu/, and in the boot, the load stop and a black screen appears saying dhcp client is trying to connect to the router, but with no success, but when ubuntu enters to desktop environment it connect to the router. What I want to know is if it's possible to make at the boot run t
[11:01] <eordenador> he dhcp client faster, it takes 2 minutes!!
[11:01] <Blaqlight> mefi: when I did apt-cache search ati it came up with tons of packages, be careful.
[11:02] <Blaqlight> DistroJockey: its certainly nice to know though anyway.
[11:02] <DistroJockey> Blaqlight, *nods*
[11:03] <DistroJockey> Blaise, I take it you've used envy or envyng previously then?
[11:03] <stef_> hy
[11:03] <vip> fgdf
[11:04] <stef_> were are u came froom?
[11:04] <Blaise> DistroJockey, I did install it when I tried to get my ATi working initially, but I ended up using the manual ATI install successfully
[11:04] <shashi__> I am using Ubuntu 8.04, i want sudo without asking for a password. Anyone tell me what is the correct way to do this ?
[11:04] <Blaqlight> <- out.
[11:04] <Blaise> DistroJockey, I have since uninstalled the envy kernal thing, as I read on the ubuntu wiki that it's not needed in Ubuntu, but I still have the same issue
[11:05] <DistroJockey> Blaise, only suggestion is to remove/purge envy stuff (never used envy/ng so not sure how exactly)
[11:05] <Blaise> DistroJockey, envy stuff has all been removed, but everytime I reboot it goes to low graphics mode
[11:05] <stef_> i'm using linux ubuntu but i don't know how ti instal mesenger or winamp...or anithing else... can somebody help?
[11:05] <DistroJockey> Blaise, can you pastebin your   /etc/X11xorg.conf   please?
[11:06] <DistroJockey> Blaise, can you pastebin your   /etc/X11/xorg.conf   please?  ^^^
[11:06] <Blaise> DistroJockey, sure
[11:06] <Blaqlight> shashi__: log in as root. sudo just gives you those privleges for a few minutes.
[11:07] <Blaise> /DistroJockey, here http://pastebin.com/m78576b78
[11:08] <shashi__> But i don't want login as root. google gives so many results, i am looking for correct way to to do this. I believe sudo in Ubuntu is some what different from other Linux distros.
[11:08] <DistroJockey> Blaise, what Ubuntu version you running?
[11:08] <bringatowel> !sudo
[11:08] <Blaise> Hardy
[11:09] <bringatowel> shashi_, what are you trying to do?
[11:09] <DistroJockey> Blaise, here's mine as a comparison:  Ubuntu intrepid (development branch), kernel Last successful boot (recovery mode)
[11:09] <DistroJockey> oops
[11:09] <DistroJockey> Blaise, http://pastebin.com/f7c3f3d9e
[11:10] <Mraks> wireless mouse i got with genius tablet works on it, but it's pen doesn't, it just acts like middle mouse click and cursor doesn't move... plsss if anyone knows how to make it work :)
[11:11] <Blaise> DistroJockey, well mine seems much more complicated
[11:11] <DistroJockey> Blaise, indeed :)
[11:11] <lefty> could someone please help me disable touchpad clicking?
[11:11] <Blaise> DistroJockey, I can't tell if that's how it usually looks though as I'm not too familiar with it, but I have had the latest ATI drivers running perfectly with Compiz set up for over a month now!
[11:12] <Blaise> DistroJockey, It's just this last update that has messed up my display, it's sickening, I'm furious
[11:12] <lefty> touchpad clicking switched on with my new graphics driver
[11:12] <DistroJockey> Blaise, change  <  Device          "Configured Video Device"  >  to  < Device          "device1" >   maybe
[11:12] <DistroJockey> Blaise, make a backup first
[11:13] <Blaise> DistroJockey, I have many backups to my xorg.conf, perhaps it's worth using an earlier one?
[11:13] <DistroJockey> Blaise, that's at line 61 in the Screen section
[11:13] <Blaise> DistroJockey, is there a way to check the dates of files using the 'ls' command
[11:13] <rapid> could someone suggest as to why the wifi would just stop working.. and sudo ifup eth1 up would fail. not in frnt of the machine atm.. just wondering
[11:13] <DistroJockey> Blaise, ls -al
[11:13] <Blaise> thanks
[11:13] <DistroJockey> np
[11:14] <DistroJockey> Blaise, yeah, if you have a known working one, just  mv  it to  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:14] <linduxed> DistroJockey: thx a lot
[11:14] <Blaise> I'll try that out
[11:14] <DistroJockey> linduxed, you're welcome
[11:15] <mefi> Blaqlight: I searched for fglrx though, and got about 10 pakcages relative to ATI graphics, and about 3 installed..
[11:15] <DistroJockey> linduxed, I forget what I helped with though :(
[11:15] <linduxed> DistroJockey: location bar hotkey
[11:15]  * Guilou is back (gone 00:14:20)
[11:15] <swamptin> heya, just got one more question while I'm upgrading to 8.04 --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28950/
[11:15] <DistroJockey> linduxed, ahh yeah, no problem :)
[11:15] <linduxed> DistroJockey: i had a feeling FF should have some feature
[11:16] <linduxed> for that
[11:16] <DistroJockey> linduxed, indeed
[11:17] <avis>  i'm running nautilus in root, cleaned up a backup drive, need to empty the trashcan on the drive easily, nautilus wont do it
[11:17] <vallhalla81> !Emerald
[11:17] <vallhalla81> !emerald
[11:17] <Ademan> anyone know how to list the entry points a shared object provides?
[11:17] <DistroJockey> swamptin, Generating locales can take some time
[11:18] <swamptin> DistroJockey: okay. I'll go back to lurking and helping when I can.
[11:18] <DistroJockey> swamptin, :)
[11:18] <vallhalla81> !theme
[11:19] <DistroJockey> swamptin, no errors so far atleast
[11:19] <swamptin> DistroJockey: nope. Got prompted about my smb.conf file, and went with the default option being to leave it as is
[11:20] <DistroJockey> swamptin, you can also take a look at   top   in another terminal to see if something is happening
[11:21] <DistroJockey> swamptin, unless you are installing, then it probably isn't there/doable
[11:21] <swamptin> DistroJockey: coolio
[11:22] <avis> if i delete files as superuser in nautilus on a backup drive, how would i empty the trashcan on the drive ?  the trashcan on wont empty using nautilus as superuser, the system wide user trash isn't applicable since they are owned by root
[11:22] <PrimoTurbo> Whats the best way to mount another partition (ext2) ? So it shows up as a file system/disk? I mounted it in /dev/sda1/ /media/harddisk2
[11:24] <hateball> avis: search for .Trash* and remove them from commandline
[11:24] <z|Casey> Hello!
[11:25] <DistroJockey> PrimoTurbo, show up where?
[11:25] <PrimoTurbo> in any file manager as a seperate disk
[11:25] <DistroJockey> PrimoTurbo, ahh
[11:25] <PrimoTurbo> for example under natilus make it show up as a disk instead of a folder at /media/harddisk2
[11:25] <PrimoTurbo> or in thunar etc
[11:26] <hateball> PrimoTurbo: You could just add a bookmark to the mountpoint, as a quick fix
[11:26] <PrimoTurbo> thats not what I want however
[11:26] <hateball> I figured as much :p
[11:26] <PrimoTurbo> i want it to show up as a hard disk
[11:26] <DistroJockey> PrimoTurbo, not to sure about that. I know in nautilus you can add locations to the left panel by dragging and dropping though
[11:27] <PrimoTurbo> I want it to show the mount as a hard disk
[11:28] <SwedeMike> PrimoTurbo: do you currently have any such devices?
[11:28] <PrimoTurbo> what devices
[11:28] <SwedeMike> PrimoTurbo: do you currently have anything that shows up the way you want the new one to show up?
[11:29] <PrimoTurbo> yes
[11:29] <SwedeMike> what?
[11:29] <PrimoTurbo> my main drive which the os is on
[11:29] <Peanut> Hi all - I'm upgrading my Gibbon to 8.0.4 and it's been stuck at 'Generating locales: en_AU.UTF-8' for ages now - what to do if an upgrade goes wrong like that? :-(
[11:29] <PrimoTurbo> /dev/sda1
[11:29] <PrimoTurbo> /dev/sda2
[11:29] <SwedeMike> PrimoTurbo: is that / ?
[11:29] <PrimoTurbo> i mean /dev/sda2 mounted as /
[11:29] <PrimoTurbo> yes
[11:29] <DistroJockey> Peanut, how long is ages?
[11:30] <PrimoTurbo> /dev/sda1 is mount in the same way but at /media/harddisk2
[11:30] <pawn> hello everyone
[11:30] <SwedeMike> PrimoTurbo: it's just that the general concept in unix is that everything are files, there is no such concept as a "harddrive", it's just present in the directory structure.
[11:30] <PrimoTurbo> but doesn't show up as a hard disk
[11:30] <pawn> 1st tyme log in
[11:30] <pawn> huhu
[11:30] <Peanut> Half an hour at least, and it's saying '7 minutes remaining' all the time.
[11:30] <PrimoTurbo> there must be a way to get the filemanager to show it as a hard disk
[11:30] <DistroJockey> Peanut, how much RAM has your system got?
[11:31] <z|Casey> I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me, I am trying to use IPTables to redirect all traffic on port 80 to an internal website (local.domain.local) is this possible?
[11:31] <bringatowel> PrimoTurbo, in Linux the filesystem is accessed through the directory structure, like your /dev/sda2 is mounted as /
[11:31] <Maior> z|Casey: squid would probably be a better method
[11:31] <z|Casey> So setup a proxy and redirect all traffic in there?
[11:32] <Maior> nod
[11:32] <Peanut> It's a macbookpro, 2GB, dual core - 'localedef' is eating 100% CPU, been running for 41 minutes.
[11:32] <z|Casey> Okay will give it a go thanks
[11:32] <Maior> Peanut: strace it?
[11:33] <DistroJockey> Peanut, this looks related:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/202959
[11:33] <Peanut> Hmm.. seems to be doing no syscalls, no output from systrace
[11:33] <Maior> ltrace?
[11:33] <Peanut> And I don't even speak 'Australian' so no idea why it wants to convert that locale :-)
[11:33] <Maior> lol
[11:35] <Peanut> Seems related, especially as other people with >64MB report the same problem.
[11:35] <DistroJockey> *nods*
[11:36] <Peanut> No solution in there though :-)
[11:36] <Blaise> DistroJockey, so it half worked changing my xorg.conf
[11:36] <DistroJockey> nope
[11:37] <Blaise> I now have my resolution back, but only if I don't use Compiz
[11:37] <DistroJockey> Blaise, well, that's a start I guess
[11:37] <Peanut> And now the fans are starting to come on.. I'm just going to kill localedef and see what happens next, or is that unwise?
[11:37] <Blaise> DisotrJockey, I guess, I just get a white desktop, I can still see the cube, but nothing on it renders
[11:38] <DistroJockey> Peanut, killing things while they are installing is probably not wise, but there may be a way to recover if you must (then again, there may not be)
[11:38] <OsamaK> Hello! I changed my 'Users and Groups', when I was testing. now I cannot use sudo, change Users and Groups, installing program or check updating. Any idea how to comeback?
[11:39] <Peanut> Well, it won't let itself be killed, not even with -9
[11:39] <Peanut> Still there, happily using up a full CPU
[11:39] <DistroJockey> Blaise, what does you current xorg.conf look like?
[11:40] <bullgard4> lspci reports: "00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM...Express Processor to DRAM Controller" What is a 'host bridge'? (siehe auch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lspci)
[11:40] <DistroJockey> Peanut, if it's nearly bed time, go sleep and check later :)
[11:40] <Blaise> DistroJockey, http://pastebin.com/m1a8b60e7
[11:40] <bullgard4> /s/siehe auch/see also/
[11:41] <Peanut> No, actually it's lunch time - BRB
[11:41] <DistroJockey> Peanut, :)
[11:44] <hiptobecubic> #pidgin
[11:44] <Blaise> Distrojockey, How does my conf file look now?
[11:44] <DistroJockey> Blaise, I'd comment out    Load		"glx"
[11:45] <Blaise> DistroJocky, ok I'll try that, what does it do?
[11:45] <chincha> hi, how to make window transparent in ubuntu??
[11:45] <DistroJockey> Blaise, still looks a bit odd, especially line 25
[11:45] <Blaise> DistroJockey, also can I just restart X to see the results, or do I need to reboot
[11:45] <OsamaK> Any idea, guy?
[11:45] <DistroJockey> Blaise, yep, restarting X should be enough
[11:46] <Blaise> DistroJockey, what does the Server Layout section do?
[11:47] <fwaokda> I'm trying to get something to work with wine, I've posted in the winehq channel but figured someone here might be able to make since of these lines of code -- http://pastebin.com/m6e6ee398
[11:49] <Blaise> DistroJockey, ok, that didn't have any effect :(
[11:49] <DistroJockey> Blaise, maybe try my nice clean xorg.conf ?
[11:50] <Blaise> DistroJockey, ok, yes, can you resend again please?
[11:50] <DistroJockey> Blaise, http://pastebin.com/f7c3f3d9e
[11:51] <Blaise> DistroJockey, now what exactly do I need to change in order to make it work? are your Identifier lines, just placeholders?
[11:51] <Jammet> Hello. =)
[11:52] <Jammet> Does anyone know a DVD authoring tool that lets me put a slideshow AND a small video clip on the DVD? Every single program I checked does either only videos or only slides.
[11:52] <DistroJockey> Blaise, I'd start by just using what I have (i.e. replace all in xorg.conf with that) and know how to restore your backup from a terminal if it breaks xserver
[11:52] <psypher246> hey everyone. is anyone else experiencing extremely bad performance from firefox 3 when downloading something. the entire pc comes to a grinding halt, cpu runs high, xorg process runs very high. I have had this issue since installing hardy and it's getting very annying, found a site talking about removing security checks and deleting urlclassifier files but that does not work
[11:52] <charlicaplin> hallo....
[11:53] <Blaise> DistroJockey, I assume I'll just use the mv command to replace
[11:53] <bazhang> psypher246, what extensions do you have enabled
[11:53] <koshari> Jammet: dvd authoring isnt a linux strongpoint
[11:53] <Jammet> koshari: Yeah...
[11:53] <DistroJockey> Blaise, cp would be better
[11:53] <Blaise> ok, I'm going to restart X now
[11:53] <DistroJockey> Blaise, that way you keep the backup file also
[11:54] <Blaise> DistroJockey, understood
[11:54] <DistroJockey> Blaise, *crosses fingers*
[11:54] <Jammet> koshari: Do you know a Windows app that can do what that? A free one, perhaps?
[11:54] <psypher246> bazhang: i have a few lemme check
[11:54] <[[thufir]]> is there any reason why I can't use the ms-sql jdbc driver in ubuntu?  java problem?  linux problem?  user error?
[11:54] <bazhang> thufir that is microsoft sql?
[11:54] <[[thufir]]> bazhang: yes
[11:55] <koshari> Jammet: offtopic, see you in the ubuntu-offtopic forum :-)
[11:55] <psypher246> bazhang: better greader, download helper, downthemall, stumbleupon, torbutton and the ubuntu ff mods
[11:55] <bazhang> thufir for what
[11:55] <bazhang> psypher246, tor
[11:55] <psypher246> it's not on
[11:55] <psypher246> i just have it installed
[11:55] <Jammet> koshari: Okay
[11:55] <psypher246> and it's only been there in the last 2 weeks
[11:55] <bazhang> psypher246, is it running on your system at all
[11:56] <[[thufir]]> java programming.  I can use the MySQL driver fine, but get errors when using the microsoft sql driver.  Just not sure if that's OS, java, me, what...
[11:56] <DistroJockey> !info devede
[11:56] <psypher246> the tor srervice is on
[11:56] <psypher246> but i'm not proxying through it now
[11:56] <bazhang> psypher246, try disabling the extensions one by one; tor is on? that is the reason then
[11:56] <psypher246> and wasn't before
[11:56] <psypher246> on i'll try. so u saying on a fresh install of ubuntu with ff 3 and all the up-dates ff should not do this?
[11:56] <rcarmonas> h
[11:56] <bazhang> thufir not sure if MS has released linux drivers for that
[11:57] <psypher246> tor is not on
[11:57] <[[thufir]]> bazhang: yes, that's what I'm trying to figure out.  ok.
[11:57] <bazhang> psypher246, no way it should do this; try disabling extensions one by one
[11:57] <psypher246> it's not tor. ff 3 has sucked since day 1
[11:57] <psypher246> ok will try
[11:57] <bazhang> psypher246, the downthemall etc never made a difference here
[12:00] <DistroJockey> Blaise, that took a while. Guess it didn't go too well
[12:00] <Blaise> DistroJocky, ok, that didn't work I restarted and I still had the un rendered cube, so I went back to a failsafe Gnome session, and I no longer the Gnome panel or task bar, I had to create a new launcher on the desktop
[12:00] <Blaise> *I no longer had
[12:01] <DistroJockey> Blaise, maybe try:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:01] <Blaise> DistroJocky, ok, what does that do?
[12:01] <bazhang> -pcritical resets to defaults iirc
[12:01] <DistroJockey> Blaise, says at the top off xorg.conf : #If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated again, run the following command
[12:02] <Blaise> ok I see
[12:02] <bazhang> Blaise, tab complete is your friend; type distr <tab> and you will get his full nick
[12:02] <DistroJockey> bazhang, that work better than -phigh ?
[12:02] <bazhang> DistroJockey, just resets to defaults afaik
[12:02] <Blaise> bazhang: cheers
[12:03] <bazhang> np :)
[12:03] <bringatowel> psypher246, this might not help, but that problem sounds familiar and something similar was happening to me at one point
[12:03] <zoommmmmmmmmm> hi
[12:03] <DistroJockey> bazhang, any idea what the difference between that and -phigh / -plow ?
[12:03] <Blaise> DistroJockey: ok I've reset to default, I will restart X again
[12:03] <DistroJockey> Blaise, k
[12:03] <bazhang> DistroJockey, the phigh is the best available if I recall correctly
[12:04] <Eider> hi
[12:04] <DistroJockey> bazhang, guess that's why it's mentioned in xorg.conf.  Cheers
[12:04] <asfalt> hi all, i am running amd64 and only 3 of my 4gb ram shows in free
[12:04] <bazhang> although adding more modelines would be helpful as well
[12:04] <Eider> how can I put the links in the Wine menu into the Gnome menu?
[12:04] <bringatowel> psypher246, maybe try enabling the -proposed repositories to get the latest version of FF3, or use an external download manager temporarily
[12:05] <asfalt> is this the right kernel? 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP
[12:05] <asfalt> btw bios/and in xp cpu-z detects all 4gb
[12:05] <bazhang> asfalt, yes
[12:06] <asfalt> I am stumped as to why free would only show 3 but I do see these lines in fmsg
[12:06] <asfalt> dmsg
[12:06] <hateball> asfalt: Do you have 32 bit or 64 bit installed?
[12:06] <DistroJockey> bazhang, ahh!  -p = Specify the minimum priority of question that will be displayed. dpkg-reconfigure normally shows low priority questions no matter what your default priority is.
[12:06] <bazhang> DistroJockey, nice catch
[12:06] <Blaise> DistroJockey: ok, not there yet, it loaded up an empty desktop again, and when I opened terminal the screen went white again (no 3D rendering) the cube was still there, I've had to return to failsafe again
[12:06] <asfalt> hateball I am under the impression it is 64bit I think i can clearly downloading amd64 iso and installing from it
[12:07] <DistroJockey> bazhang, cheers :)
[12:07] <bazhang> :)
[12:07] <DistroJockey> Blaise, :(
[12:07] <hateball> asfalt: what does uname -a tell you?
[12:07] <asfalt> Linux beefy 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:07] <bazhang> asfalt, lsb_release -a
[12:07] <Slart> Linux beefy?
[12:08] <psypher246> bringatowel: whats the difference with the proposed updates?
[12:08] <asfalt> i called the machine "beefy" because it's may major upgrade in 8 years, quad cpu and all ;) anyway
[12:08] <DistroJockey> Blaise, ok, lets see xorg.conf again please?
[12:08] <bazhang> psypher246, this is hardy or gutsy
[12:08] <psypher246> hardy
[12:08] <hateball> asfalt: Well it's a 32bit kernel then anyhow, so it's not quite right :)
[12:08] <Slart> asfalt: ahhh.. I forgot that the hostname appeared there.. sorry
[12:09] <asfalt> bazhang whats the pastebin url lsb_release -a returns quite a few lines
[12:09] <bringatowel> psypher246, not sure, it may have a never version of FF3, it says v3.0.1
[12:09] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com asfalt
[12:09] <Slart> asfalt: for a second I thought kernels had started using names like ubuntu =)
[12:09] <Blaise> DistroJockey: http://pastebin.com/m1893c064
[12:09] <asfalt> cheers
[12:09] <asfalt> Slart :D
[12:09] <bazhang> bringatowel, likely not for hardy
[12:10] <asfalt> bazhang http://paste.ubuntu.com/28959/
[12:10] <psypher246> i think the downthemall plugin is the culprit
[12:10] <hateball> asfalt: Is it a server or desktop? If it doesnt need easy install of say gfx drivers you could just grab the server kernel and you'd have PAE support
[12:10] <zetheroo> I am trying to add the medibuntu repos to my sources as described here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu ... but I keep getting a GPG error at the end of the second line of commands
[12:10] <bazhang> psypher246, aha
[12:10] <asfalt> hateball ahh I see, well it's a "high end" desktop
[12:11] <bazhang> zetheroo, need to import the gpg key
[12:11] <DistroJockey> Blaise, and what vedio card have you got again?
[12:11] <asfalt> I dont leave it on all the time so not a server also i dual boot at times to answer your question
[12:11] <hateball> asfalt: You're in for a fresh install of x86_64 then :)
[12:11] <psypher246> do u guys know of a better download manager thats integrated into ff?
[12:11] <asfalt> but I was hoping to use all 4gb ram with amd64 for the VM's i run
[12:11] <Blaise> DistroJockey: Ati Radeon X1900
[12:11] <bazhang> asfalt, how new is this install
[12:12] <Blaise> DistroJockey: can't work out why I've lots my gnome desktop though :S
[12:12] <asfalt> bazhang 2 weeks, let me check  the cd I burnt and installed from I could swear I downloaded the amd64 iso
[12:12] <Peanut> Back from lunch - rebooted my machine and done a 'dpkg --configure -a' - it once again seems to hang on localedef for en_AU.UTF-8 :-(
[12:12] <bazhang> asfalt, the only way to change from 32 to 64 you wont like
[12:12] <zetheroo> bazhang: I thought thats what the second command is doing!?
[12:12] <zetheroo> bazhang:
[12:13] <zetheroo> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[12:13] <bazhang> zetheroo, you error out with that one?
[12:13] <zetheroo> bazhang: yes
[12:13] <asfalt> bazhang this is a fresh install though, how can I check that the cd is amd64
[12:13] <Peanut> strace reports no output and can not be interrupted anymore either, neither can localedef...
[12:14] <DistroJockey> Blaise, this may be worth a browse while I check a couple of things:  http://wiki.cchtml.com
[12:14] <asfalt> browsing the cd now, but this is the cd i used to install with
[12:14] <xanax`> hello
[12:14] <Blaise> DistroJockey:  yes, I was just thinking about reinstalling the drivers, how tiresome
[12:14] <asfalt> there bazhang #define DISKNAME  Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron" - Release amd64
[12:14] <xanax`> does anyone have a Soundmax HD 1988 integrated sound card ? (I can't get any sound from it)
[12:14] <bazhang> zetheroo, what do you need from medibuntu repos
[12:14] <Blaise> DistroJockey: I think it's more than just getting the right xorg,conf
[12:14] <asfalt> thats from README.diskdefines
[12:14] <asfalt> on the cd
[12:14] <bullgard4> Where can I find the source code of xdpyinfo?
[12:15] <psypher246> what download manager do you guys recommend?
[12:15] <DistroJockey> Blaise, do you have anything in Hardware Drivers ?
[12:15] <zetheroo> bazhang: DVD playback
[12:15] <asfalt> so yeah it appears that I am already running the amd64 bit as stated earlier
[12:15] <Blaise> DistroJockey: how can I check them?
[12:15] <asfalt> I am at a loss with this, why does it not see all the ram
[12:15] <bazhang> zetheroo, dont need to enable repos for that; just get the libdvdcss2
[12:15] <zetheroo> bazhang: and I wanted to add their source to a custom Ubuntu I am putting together
[12:15] <hateball> asfalt: Because it's a 32 bit kernel
[12:15] <DistroJockey> Blaise, System - Administration - Hardware Drivers
[12:15] <hateball> asfalt: Without PAE support
[12:15] <Blaise> DistroJockey: yes but I no longer have my Gnome toolbar
[12:16] <Blaise> DistroJockey: all my gnome panels have vanished :s
[12:16] <asfalt> hateball is there a magic way to apt-get the PAE kernel ? :D
[12:16] <DistroJockey> Blaise, ahh, yeah. Try   sudo killall gnome-panel
[12:16] <Pici> bullgard4: apt-get source x11-utils
[12:16] <asfalt> I don't wan't' no pain! i just want this 64 bit os to see my 4gb ram :D
[12:16] <hateball> asfalt: Server kernel has it enabled, else you have to build your own. Or install 64 bit
[12:17] <Blaise> DistroJockey: didn't seem to do anything, do I need to load them?
[12:17] <bazhang> amd64 is 64 bit already, right?
[12:17] <zetheroo> bazhang: they have the wrong command there....
[12:17] <asfalt> hateball oh so it would be a boot parameter? could I edit the grub menu to reboot with PAE ?
[12:17] <Blaise> DistroJockey: ah running gnome-panel brought it back
[12:17] <DistroJockey> Blaise, usually it relaods automatically, but try  gnome-panel
[12:17] <Blaise> DistroJockey: ok No proprietry drivers are in use on this system
[12:17] <DistroJockey> Blaise, yeah :)
[12:17] <hateball> asfalt: Nope, you have to build the kernel from source. Anyhow, if you do 'apt-cache show gedit' which architecture does it say?
[12:17] <zetheroo> bazhang: It should be this: wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[12:17] <Pici> asfalt: Its not a boot paramter.  If your CPU supports PAE, then if you run the server kernel you will have it. No options.
[12:17] <khuz> i need help with my bit distro
[12:17] <asfalt> bazhang so it is but the other issue is that the kernel is limited to 3gb addressing without PAE ?
[12:18] <Blaise> DistroJockey: that's not good, I'm going ot reinstall teh drivers then
[12:18] <khuz> 64
[12:18] <zetheroo> now it works peachy
[12:18] <ibrahim> Hello , I am using hardy. I cannot switch from wireless to wired connection when static IP configured on wired connection. Also I cannot connect VPN networks when I am on wired connection and static IP configured.
[12:18] <asfalt> Pici I see, but the server kernel might break my desktop functionality or not?
[12:18] <DistroJockey> Blaise, mainly means Ubuntu doesn't have a nice package for them. Worth a try, yeah
[12:18] <khuz> hey does anyone have the problem of ubuntu 64bit using swap unstead of ram
[12:18] <khuz> ?
[12:18] <Pici> asfalt: Not all restricted drivers are available for the server kernel, so possibly.
[12:18] <mrrrti> apt-cache show gedit | grep ^Arch
[12:19] <bullgard4> Pici: Thank you.
[12:19] <sfire> khuz: nope
[12:19] <DistroJockey> Blaise, how are you going to do that btw?
[12:19] <ferronica> need help regarding AWN
[12:19] <asfalt> Pici interesting, because bazhang is saying "enable PAE or install 64bit" my impression was that 64 bit would support it natively perhaps this is what I didn't know
[12:19] <khuz>  well my install does
[12:19] <bazhang> asfalt, not me; that was hateball
[12:19] <Blaise> DistroJockey: manually using this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[12:19] <sfire> khuz: some of the stuff goes to swap .. things that are not used often
[12:19] <asfalt> oh sorry bazhang you are right it was hateball
[12:19] <khuz> it uses 45% ram then starts to swap
[12:20] <Blaise> DistroJockey: it's what I used originally when I had everything working
[12:20] <hateball> asfalt: apt-cache show gedit |grep Arch
[12:20] <DistroJockey> Blaise, k, not used it as I just run the xorg drivers. Good luck
[12:20] <hateball> asfalt: What's the output of that?
[12:20] <khuz> is there a fix?
[12:20] <zetheroo> is anyone here familiar with Reconstructor?
[12:21] <asfalt> hateball: Architecture: i386 x2
[12:21] <asfalt> two lines even
[12:21] <mrrrti> yes, two lines here too
[12:21] <hateball> asfalt: So obviously you didnt install the amd64 version ;)
[12:21] <bazhang> !remaster | zetheroo
[12:21] <ibrahim> Hello , I am using hardy. I cannot switch from wireless to wired connection when static IP configured on wired connection. Also I cannot connect VPN networks when I am on wired connection and static IP configured.  ANY IDEA ?
[12:21] <sfire> khuz: use pastebin and paste this  "cat /proc/meminfo" then give us a link
[12:21] <asfalt> hateball omg the cd says in README.diskdefines that it is amd64, perhaps an update broke it?
[12:22] <mrrrti> asfalt: when did you install it?
[12:22] <bazhang> zetheroo, uck works best for me
[12:22] <hateball> asfalt: No, an update wont change the packages arch, or you'd not be booting at all :p
[12:22] <zetheroo> bazhang: cool thanks
[12:22] <bazhang> np :)
[12:22] <zetheroo> bazhang: did you see what I said before about medibuntu?
[12:23] <khuz> can anyone please help me my ubuntu 64bit is swaping instead of using my ram
[12:23] <sfire> khuz: see above
[12:23] <bazhang> zetheroo, it is working peachy now?
[12:23] <zetheroo> bazhang: hehe... yeah
[12:23] <bazhang> :)
[12:23] <khuz> kk
[12:23] <asfalt> mrrti 2-3 weeks ago?
[12:24] <hateball> asfalt: http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/ubuntu/ubuntu-cd/8.04.1/ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso for a proper cd. I've installed from this myself...
[12:24] <zetheroo> bazhang: btw .. have you tried Reconstructor ? ... just wondering if its possible to select which apps I want installed by default
[12:24] <asfalt> 10th of this month it appears
[12:24] <khuz> those links right?
[12:24] <bazhang> zetheroo, thought that was for fedora
[12:24] <zetheroo> bazhang: and is UCK easier to use!?
[12:24] <bazhang> zetheroo, it is very easy
[12:24] <zetheroo> bazhang: all GUI driven?
[12:24] <bazhang> zetheroo, reconstructor always failed for me
[12:24] <zetheroo> :)
[12:25] <zetheroo> bazhang: oh thats no good
[12:25] <mrrrti> asfalt: is there a way for you to be absolutely sure that you actually installed from the amd64 cd?
[12:25] <mrrrti> asfalt: cause this is the weirdest thing i've heard in a while, if that's the case
[12:25] <asfalt> hateball I see, damn this is very uncool :D i am running the non 64bit when I thought I was. By the way does flashplugin-nonfree work now? because I was thinkign "cool ot works now"
[12:25] <asfalt> mrrrti well I don't seem to have another hardy CD at all here
[12:25] <bazhang> zetheroo, yes
[12:25] <hateball> asfalt: Flash works fine in 64bit. Well... pretty much
[12:26] <zetheroo> bazhang: with UCK can I change the default apps?