[04:03] <kreg> jacekowski, can they do things like roaming profiles and other cool AD stuff?
[04:03] <sebsebseb> edge: and if it dosn't just work,  well  configuring apps in Wine is  not that easy
[04:03] <edge> Oh
[04:03] <jacekowski> kreg: thats GPO related
[04:03] <arand> edge first make sure its supported...
[04:03] <christopher> debac1e: i mean from the console
[04:03] <kreg> jacekowski, ok figured.   I thought it was strange to see a linux sell itself on the idea of being a kicking Domain Controller.
[04:03] <bazhang> !appdb > edge
[04:03] <porter1> jacekowski, is it ok if I just set them to no shell in /usr/passwd?
[04:03] <arand> !appdb | edge
[04:03] <debac1e> christopher: vmstat
[04:04] <christopher> ty
[04:04] <MisterK85> !appdb > visual basic
[04:04] <sebsebseb> edge: some games just work, other games need configuring and then it might not be as good as Windows depending on the game,  and  virtualization isn't just there for 3D Directx games either,  hence why  gamers tend to dual boot
[04:04] <jacekowski> kreg: if you have something to create this GPO ( no managment tools for linux ) then you can do it
[04:04] <debac1e> christopher: there might be something better
[04:04] <kreg> imo a Domain Controler is best done as a windows server, and likely always will be.   Domian controlers as such a windows-ism anyhow.
[04:04] <porter1> AKA /bin/false
[04:04] <edge> Also online a while back i saw this video of a gut that made his ubuntu desktop look like a cube and u could choose a side of the cube to view it and the sides of the cube are your different desktops.... how can i do this?
[04:04] <edge> guy*
[04:04] <jacekowski> porter1: no
[04:04] <sebsebseb> !compiz |  edge
[04:04] <jacekowski> porter1: just don't touch this accounts
[04:05] <bazhang> edge install ccsm and get it set up in #compiz
[04:05] <edge> ty
[04:05] <kreg> the basics, like simple auth, file, print, works fine.   But the cool bells and whistles i've never successfully done in a Linux "domain controller"
[04:05] <Janelle> I have a headphones question, can someone help me? I think it's a rather simple answer, but I'm new to Ubuntu and I have no idea what I'm doing
[04:05] <bazhang> !ccsm > edge
[04:05] <server_> arand: I was following the instruction from the section 7 when I type sudo -s it's telling me "sudo: not found" I put the cd and did resque broken system. what are the step that I have to take? thanks man
[04:05] <porter1> Ok, fine. I won't. it still bothers me that these unnecessary accounts for a bare server are left hanging around.
[04:05] <jacekowski> porter1: don't touch any accounts or groups with gid or uid less than 1000
[04:05] <NarbFarkus> it's not a big deal, they're disabled
[04:06] <jacekowski> porter1: because that's required by standard
[04:06] <kreg> gonna run, catch this ginormous chan later.
[04:06] <Janelle> I have a headphones question, can someone help me? I think it's a rather simple answer, but I'm new to Ubuntu and I have no idea what I'm doing
[04:06] <jacekowski> kreg: it's really far away from being working replacement for windows based domain controller
[04:08] <debac1e> Janelle: you can always ask
[04:08] <arand> server_: I think if you choose a "rescue" option you may already be root, hence "sudo" will be uneccessary, just skip to next step might work...
[04:08] <happy> can someone help me? I am using the latest version of kubuntu and can not figure out how to use my mp3 player. It has always looked like a flash drive in the past but it is not working now. If someone could help me with either a kde gui method or a cli method it would be a great help.
[04:08] <Janelle> Thanks debacle, I plugged in the headphones and sound still comes out of the speakers, is there something I can do to make that not happen anymore?
[04:09] <debac1e> where did you plug them in?
[04:09] <Janelle> I plugged them into the headphones hole
[04:09] <jacekowski> tripple check
[04:09] <server_> arand: that what I thought so I did grub the result was not found. anything else that I have to do ?
[04:09] <happy> debac1e: sounds like a sound driver problem
[04:09] <debac1e> Janelle: onboard sound? same card as the speakers are in?
[04:10] <Janelle> sound goes in the headphones and out the speakers
[04:10] <the-vava> how can i resolve this: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out ?
[04:10] <jacekowski> the-vava: you can't
[04:10] <Janelle> not sure what onboard sound is, sorry
[04:10] <the-vava> jacekowski, what can be done?
[04:10] <jacekowski> the-vava: unless you have other problem it's completly normall
[04:10] <happy> Janelle: is the sound card a pci card or built into the mother board?
[04:11] <jacekowski> the-vava: it happens sometimes
[04:11] <debac1e> Janelle: do your speakers have an off switch? I'm sorry I can't be more helpful but it may just be easier to turn them off as you want :)
[04:11] <jacekowski> the-vava: if it happens too often ( like more than couple times per hour ) then it's a problem
[04:11] <Janelle> it's my laptop
[04:11] <the-vava> jacekowski, it's not normal. the connection is dysfunctional and i get these ... all the time ... when i use 2 network devices the same time
[04:11] <happy> Janelle: what model?
[04:12] <arand> server_: so the command "grub" responds with "not found"? If so I'd say you're not in the right environment... As described on the webpage, start the livecd normally, then start a terminal, then use sudo -s... etc.
[04:12] <jacekowski> the-vava: but otherwise you will have to get used to it
[04:12] <Shawnc> Why doesn't package.ubuntu.com load for me?
[04:12] <happy> Janelle: HP Pavilion DV6xxx?
[04:12] <Janelle> Sony Vaio
[04:12] <DasEi> Janelle:try to use alsamixergui to deploy headphones
[04:12] <Shawnc> Is it down?
[04:12] <jacekowski> the-vava: details of your setup
[04:12] <Shawnc> packages*
[04:12] <Shawnc> packages.ubuntu.com is it down?
[04:12] <server_> thank you arand: I'll continue with what you have said
[04:12] <the-vava> jacekowski, so i wonder if i can throttle the data the kernel puts to the devices or if i can modify the irq or .. ?
[04:13] <happy> Janelle: vaio hates linux. I would search for your laptop and linux soud
[04:13] <jacekowski> the-vava: i need details of your setup
[04:13] <jacekowski> happy: i would say linux hate vaio
[04:14] <jacekowski> happy: i've had perfectly working wifi card in my vaio laptop
[04:14] <DasEi> Shawnc: my first thought won't work so easy, findutils is an essential part of apt , as it seems; can't you give more information about the circumstances ?
[04:14] <koro> how does gnome-terminal choose the window size when i open a new terminal?
[04:14] <happy> same thing. they are mutual enemies
[04:14] <jacekowski> happy: and then couple updates later i've noticed that it's not working anymore
[04:14] <Janelle> Well that sucks, I was talked into downloading Ubuntu and then I moved away from the person that downloaded it so I'm clueless how to do anything it it, quite sad
[04:14] <jacekowski> happy: because somebody changed drivers to open iwl drivers
[04:14] <the-vava> jacekowski, 2 network cards and one onboard ethernet. what info do you need? i will have to type that to this terminal.. since i can't connect to pastebin from there right now
[04:14] <server_> arand: I think what I did was resque mode that is not good at this poing I should have install live dc then go from there. and that what I am trying to do now. Thank you
[04:14] <jacekowski> happy: which doesn't support ad-hoc mode
[04:14] <Shawnc> DasEi: ?
[04:15] <happy> jacekowski: that sucks :-\
[04:15] <Shawnc> What do you mean? I don't really have any circumstances..
[04:15] <MrPiracy> i have several ntfs partitions here and ubuntu kinda messed up the partition lables/mounting name. how can i fix this? maybe restart from scratch and make NTFS tool remount them all again?
[04:15] <jacekowski> happy: and couple updates later their fix for that was just removing it completly
[04:16] <happy> Janelle: what is your exact model?
[04:16] <debac1e> Janelle: do you have a volume icon applet beside the clock applet? right click it and select volume control, you may be able to mute the speakers independently of the headphones that way
[04:16] <jacekowski> the-vava: card names would help
[04:16] <Janelle> I have a sony Vaio
[04:16] <happy> Janelle: more specific?
[04:16] <DasEi> Shawnc: I tried to re-install findutils on a vm here, and it wants to take down two gigs of data, can't be the solution
[04:16] <happy> I am looking at a long list of models
[04:16] <Jimmio> Hello friends, my keyboard shortcuts stopped working, well, at least print screen stopped. I tried resetting them in the GUI, and it still doesn't work. Any way to check if there's something grabbing the PrntScrn key?
[04:16] <jacekowski> happy: white sony vaio
[04:17] <happy> jacekowski: what?
[04:17] <jacekowski> happy: with keyboard and touchpad
[04:17] <Janelle> Happy it's a PCG-7T1L yes it's white
[04:17] <happy> lol
[04:17] <jacekowski> happy: i'm giving you details of his laptop
[04:17] <edge> how do i use desktop cube?
[04:17] <Shawnc> DasEi: I don't know how you can help me :P because this is getting really annoying.
[04:17] <debac1e> Janelle: he's asking for model, you're saying "Ford", he wants to know "Ford Contour '99 LX 4-cylinder", if that helps you understand the question
[04:17] <edge> how do i use desktop cube?
[04:18] <Janelle> it's a PCG-7T1L
[04:18] <Janelle> that's the model number
[04:18] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[04:18] <the-vava> jacekowski, the used Driver is 8339too and the vendor of these is Realtek Semiconductor RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
[04:18] <DasEi> Shawnc: I also have no straight advice, your apt is broken somehow, and you can't remember what caused this ?
[04:18] <Janelle> sorry guys I'm not a computer person by any means, I was talked into getting this after I got a virus for the umpteenth time
[04:18] <jacekowski> the-vava: are you sure it's 8339too?
[04:18] <MrPiracy> i have several ntfs partitions here and ubuntu kinda messed up the partition lables/mounting name. how can i fix this? maybe restart from scratch and make NTFS tool remount them all again?
[04:18] <arleslie> !dualboot > arleslie
[04:18] <the-vava> jacekowski, hwinfo shows that
[04:19] <debac1e> Janelle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73358 first hit on google for "ubuntu PCG-7T1L sound headphones"
[04:19] <edge> how do i use desktop cube?
[04:19] <enduser000> @edge: install compizconfig-settings-manager and mess with in in system > preferences
[04:19] <jacekowski> the-vava: blacklist it
[04:19] <jacekowski> the-vava: correct driver should be different
[04:19] <sebsebseb> Janelle: don't worry i'll try and help you
[04:19] <jacekowski> the-vava: let me check
[04:19] <server_> rand: on the command line while I was following the instruction. when I did  number 5 of the instruction it did return "Error 15: File not found" what should I do ?
[04:19] <Shawnc> DasEi: nothing caused it d:
[04:19] <sebsebseb> Janelle: just reading the  stuff just now hang on
[04:19] <DasEi> Shawnc: what does a : sudo dpkg --configure -a       ?
[04:19] <Janelle> thank you
[04:19] <debac1e> Janelle: specifically from that page: "To fix it, openned up the Volume Control for the Intel ICH6 driver, click the switches tab, and put a check mark next to Headphone Jack Sense, and that did the trick"
[04:19] <jacekowski> the-vava: 8139too or 8139cp - one of this
[04:19] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[04:20] <Janelle> the box was already clicked next to the headphones
[04:20] <DasEi> Shawnc: what does a : sudo dpkg --configure -a       ?
[04:20] <arand> server_: That means trouble... Are you positive that your ubuntu partition is still on the system?
[04:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Anyone know a speedtest website that i can use in links?
[04:20] <edge> ino how to get the cube but how do i use it?
[04:20] <edge> I enabled it but i dont get how it works
[04:21] <server_> arand: I had the partition do you think it is lost ?
[04:21] <happy> CoUrPsE|DeAd: I do not think they exist. They require flash.
[04:21] <jacekowski> CoUrPsE|DeAd: just try to download big linux iso
[04:21] <jacekowski> CoUrPsE|DeAd: from your local mirror
[04:21] <server_> arand: how do I check if the partition is there ?
[04:21] <MrPiracy> edge: CTRL + ALT + ARROW KEYS
[04:21] <Shawnc> it doesn't fix anything DasEi .
[04:21] <happy> CoUrPsE|DeAd: use axel to speed it up and see how fast it can go
[04:21] <MrPiracy> edge: or CTRL + ALT + MOUSE CLICK AND DRAG
[04:22] <Shawnc> i have to delete
[04:22] <arand> server_: well apparently grub cannot find it... what does the command "fdisk -l" show? (will give you a list of partitions.)
[04:22] <Shawnc> the "linux-headers-2.6.26-5-generic"
[04:22] <DasEi> Shawnc: so you got to ask for someone with a deeper look in apt, I give up here, sorry
[04:22] <Shawnc> But I can't :P
[04:22] <sebsebseb> Janelle: sound isn't my area,  but  you  also made it sound like you didn't know how to install programs and things like that,  well I don't mind helping with that
[04:23] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Humm k.
[04:23] <Shawnc> I have to remove "linux-headers-2.6.26-5-generic" but I can't because I get those errors so it won't remove, I think i fixed it, let me reboot my comp.
[04:23] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> What abowt upload speed?
[04:23] <edge> it just goes from desktop 1 and desktop 2...
[04:23] <edge> when i press cntrl alt arrow keys
[04:24] <MrPiracy> edge: u can set how many desktops u want in the conpiz config manager
[04:24] <edge> i thought its suppossed to look like a cube though....
[04:24] <MrPiracy> edge: did u enable rotate cube as well?
[04:25] <edge> leme check
[04:25] <server_> arand this is what I see "Disk /dev/sda: 4000 GB<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders  Units = cylinders of 16065 *  512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0006ce88   Device boot Start End Blocks Id System
[04:25] <server_> arand: that what I am seeing
[04:25] <server_> what does it means
[04:25] <server_> ?
[04:25] <Neroon> edge: Press ctr+alt+left mouse button -> rotate with mouse
[04:25] <arand> server_: what? only that?
[04:25] <MrPiracy> i have several ntfs partitions here and ubuntu kinda messed up the partition lables/mounting name. how can i fix this? maybe restart from scratch and make NTFS tool remount them all again?
[04:26] <server_> arand: yep that all I see
[04:26] <edge> .... i installed that package but i exited out of it... where do i find it again?
[04:26] <Neroon> edge: you got the compizconfig settings managager?
[04:26] <arand> server_: gosh, sounds like your partition tabel is bust...
[04:26] <edge> yea
[04:26] <MrPiracy> edge: system / preferences / compizconfig setting manager
[04:27] <server_> arand :( what are my option is that means I am going to loose all :(
[04:27] <Neroon> edge: then you got the filter upper left
[04:27] <the-vava> jacekowski, how to reinitialize the network interfaces after disabling and enabling different drivers?
[04:27] <Neroon> edge: type cube into it
[04:28] <jacekowski> the-vava: rmmod 8339too
[04:28] <Neroon> now you should have rotate cube among others on the right side
[04:28] <dpupp> When looking at my menu.lst, i see options like ro queit splash"
[04:28] <edge> i enabled it but it still doesnt work
[04:28] <jacekowski> the-vava: modprobe NEW_DRIVER
[04:28] <edge> i enabled it but it still doesnt work
[04:28] <jacekowski> the-vava: and check dmesg after that
[04:28] <MrPiracy> how can i unmount all my NTFS partitions and then remount them again using NTFS Configuration Toll?
[04:28] <Neroon> edge:  did you:
[04:28] <dpupp> When looking at my menu.lst, i see options like "ro queit splash" can i remove those options and still boot fine?
[04:28] <Neroon> edge: Press ctr+alt+left mouse button -> rotate with mouse
[04:28] <colloguy> In Xchat, how can I highlight messages that have a question mark in them?
[04:28] <Neroon> edge: Press and hold  ctr+alt+left mouse button -> rotate with mouse
[04:28] <MrPiracy> Neroon: he wants more desktops i think, he's got only 2
[04:29] <edge> that doesnt do anything...
[04:29] <Neroon> MrPiracy: might be, but he didnt say so
[04:29] <Shawnc> Desai left?
[04:29] <MrPiracy> Neroon: he told me it will swap from 1 to 2 only
[04:29] <Neroon> edge: just curious: is compiz enabled?
[04:29] <colloguy> I've already tried putting /? and '?' in the highlighted words filter
[04:29] <zenlunatic> colloguy, there is probably a script floating around...
[04:30] <edge> how do i enable that?
[04:30] <Neroon> edge: best thing for me is fusion icon
[04:30] <Neroon> edge: if you didnt install it yet, do so
[04:30] <MrPiracy> Neroon: what's that?
[04:30] <edge> fusion icon?
[04:30] <Andorin> I'm getting my mom off of Windows and I plan to install Linux on her computer. Preferably Ubuntu because I need something really user-friendly. Her computer has 256 MB RAM. Should I give her Jaunty?
[04:31] <Neroon> MrPiracy: The easy way to switch between compiz and normal desktop
[04:31] <the-vava> jacekowski, bridge-eth1 went down and some parport messages are there. the interfaces are not known to ifconfig. so just the unloading of the driver seems to occur?
[04:31] <Shawnc> Hello, can someone help me please? I get this error when ever I try to apt-get install stuff (http://pastebin.ca/1499686), then when I do the apt-get -f install like it says I get an error too (http://pastebin.ca/1499685), What can I do to fix this?
[04:31] <Neroon> edge: Yes, you might have to install it
[04:31] <Neroon> edge: Should be available in your install manager
[04:32] <jacekowski> the-vava: try modprobing 8139too and 8139cp
[04:32] <arand> server_: If this is the case (and as far as I can tell it is), TestDisk *may* be able to help you recreate the partition table: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[04:33] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i just installed it here, where does it go?
[04:33] <Neroon> edge and MrPiracy: Found it?
[04:33] <edge> yeah and installed now running
[04:33] <the-vava> jacekowski, or is the 8139cp some kind of parallel port driver? seems to be that way. modprobe 8139too shows that 3 network cards get up with irq 17, 18, 19
[04:33] <Neroon> MrPiracy: since i got kde here it's beneath system
[04:34] <nw-b> I am planning to build a pc, which mother board and processor would you suggest? Intel or AMD?
[04:34] <Neroon> edge: so, fusion icon is running?
[04:34] <jacekowski> the-vava: one is driver for older cards and one for newer or something like that
[04:34] <edge> yeah... cube still doesnt work
[04:34] <Neroon> edge: patience, young padawan
[04:34] <arand> server_: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step has nice instructions, and testdisk may be installed on a livecd using "apt-get install testdisk" (with sduo)
[04:35] <MrPiracy> Neroon: ohhh, i got it ;)   never used it
[04:35] <Neroon> edge: right click the icon, select window manager -> compiz
[04:35] <arand> server_: ...(prepend sudo if you are not already root)
[04:35] <Neroon> MrPiracy:  I love it
[04:35] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Makes it easier to switch and even change settings
[04:35] <Merth> Hello everyone, I need some help.
[04:35] <nw-b> which processor is currently the most powerful?
[04:36] <Neroon> edge:  Did anything happen?
[04:36] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[04:36] <MrPiracy> Neroon: yes
[04:36] <arleslie> !dualboot > arleslie
[04:36] <Andorin> I'm getting my mom off of Windows and I plan to install Linux on her computer. Preferably Ubuntu because I need something really user-friendly. Her computer has 256 MB RAM. Should I give her Jaunty?
[04:36] <MrPiracy> Neroon: does it auto start by default? what's the command line? fusionicon?
[04:37] <Merthsoft> I've got this computer here that I've installed xubuntu on, it's behind a rounter, and I want to be able to ssh into it
[04:37] <Shawnc> Hello, can someone help me please? I get this error when ever I try to apt-get install stuff (http://pastebin.ca/1499686), then when I do the apt-get -f install like it says I get an error too (http://pastebin.ca/1499685), What can I do to fix this?
[04:37] <Merthsoft> How would I set all of this up?
[04:37] <Neroon> MrPiracy: No, it doesnt start by default. It'
[04:37] <NemesisD> anyone know how to get a program to release an exclusive lock on /dev/snd withotu killing it? deluge, a torrent app that has no business touching sound, has locked up /dev/snd for me
[04:37] <igsen> !paste | igsen
[04:37] <Neroon> MrPiracy: It's fusion-icon
[04:37] <Neroon> edge: Still there?
[04:37] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[04:37] <Demo-RFC> whats up room
[04:37] <MrPiracy> Neroon: ok, thx
[04:37] <server_> arand: I was able to see the 2 ntfs and one linux partition I guess that is good
[04:38] <Neroon> MrPiracy: yw
[04:38] <the-vava> jacekowski, still only one card works when i network connect them the same time :(
[04:38] <rodd> "can't bind to port: 80 address already in use" how can i 'kill' that?
[04:38] <jacekowski> the-vava: try playing with irq affinity
[04:38] <Shawnc> Hello, can someone help me please? I get this error when ever I try to apt-get install stuff (http://pastebin.ca/1499686), then when I do the apt-get -f install like it says I get an error too (http://pastebin.ca/1499685), What can I do to fix this?
[04:38] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Either edge is fascinated, or his screen is scrambled/black
[04:38] <jacekowski> the-vava: i'm going to sleep
[04:39] <the-vava> jacekowski, where can i set those
[04:39] <edge> oh sorry... i forgot i was chatting
[04:39] <enduser000> Shawnc: Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages
[04:39] <Neroon> ah
[04:39] <hey`> guys, when a new LTNS will be released?
[04:39] <the-vava> jacekowski, thank you for your help so far
[04:39] <Neroon> edge: So, is it working?
[04:39] <edge> yeah i did that... still nothing
[04:39] <bullgard4> 'man yelp': " You can also start Yelp by choosing Desktop->Help.  This will show the top-level help system page, listing all GNOME documents conveniently organized by topic." How can I choose 'Desktop > Help'? What is the start position for this act?
[04:39] <MrPiracy> Neroon: according to my ... er... "vast" experience with linux, i think it's more like option 2
[04:39] <h3n> i'm trying to install Mesa version 7.0.4
[04:40] <edge> nope
[04:40] <Neroon> edge: Ok. Let's try something else. Do wobbly windows work?
[04:40] <Shawnc> enduser000: doesn't work
[04:40] <h3n> don't think I did it right can anyone help?
[04:40] <Shawnc> If you looked at the logs....
[04:40] <Neroon> MrPiracy: tell me about it ... spent a whole week (last week) with fglrx and compiz again
[04:40] <Shawnc> That I posted, then you would see that I tried that. Please take a look at my logs.
[04:40] <edge> nope
[04:40] <enduser000> Shawnc: try "sudo apt-get autoremove" without the quotes
[04:40] <Shawnc> tried it
[04:40] <MrPiracy> Neroon: so did i ... wanted to get second life to work ehre
[04:40] <Shawnc> didn't work
[04:40] <enduser000> or put sudo in front of that other one
[04:40] <arand> server_: yes, that is good, now try to make testdisk write a new partition table from that information (note, if I am wrong in my assumptions here this may cause even more harm to the system... just a disclaimer...)
[04:41] <Neroon> edge: so am i right in thinking, compiz doesnt work at all yet?
[04:41] <Neroon> MrPiracy: The thing was, i wanted to have  compiz AND tvout working ...
[04:41] <server_> arand: how I can tell it to write new partition table?
[04:41] <Shawnc> enduser000: I tried that one too.
[04:42] <edge> ye[
[04:42] <edge> yep
[04:42] <MrPiracy> Neroon: did u manage to do that? i didnt even try to output my tv yet. In the last 4 days i installed jaunty like a million times
[04:42] <enduser000> how about "sudo apt-get update"?
[04:42] <Neroon> MrPiracy: YES! Victory ;-)
[04:42] <edge> do i need to enable visual effects?
[04:42] <Andorin> I'm getting my mom off of Windows and I plan to install Linux on her computer. Preferably Ubuntu because I need something really user-friendly. Her computer has 256 MB RAM. Should I give her Jaunty?
[04:43] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Actually i had to disable compiz on tv, but it's working on my lcd (both at the same time)
[04:43] <richardcavell> Andorin: maybe a stripped down version given low RAM
[04:43] <MrPiracy> Neroon: when ubuntu decides to work, it's a great OS
[04:43] <Neroon> edge: Where?
[04:43] <Neroon> MrPiracy: definetely
[04:43] <richardcavell> Andorin: xubuntu
[04:43] <Shawnc> enduser000: I did that and I also did sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:43] <edge> preferences?
[04:44] <enduser000> how about the computer janitor in system > administration ?
[04:44] <Neroon> oh and edge, when you talk to someone specific, please put his name in front of your message
[04:44] <ryanprior> I want to create a .tar file with a bunch of sound files, and a playlist file that plays them all in a certain order (like a mix tape). How can I do that?
[04:44] <Andorin> richardcavell: xubuntu? Heard of it, never used it. It's a stripped-down Ubuntu?
[04:44] <Neroon> edge: just type ner and press tab
[04:44] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i'm gonna go and try to get my partitions to be mounted correctly .... c ya ... good luck with edge
[04:44] <tritium> !xubuntu | Andorin
[04:44] <edge> Neroon gt restart brb
[04:44] <ryanprior> For example, take a vanilla Brad Sucks album and turn it into a "mixtape" file containing the music and a playlist of the songs in order.
[04:44] <Shawnc> enduser000: computer janitor?
[04:44] <edge> Neroon,
[04:45] <edge> ?
[04:45] <richardcavell> Andorin: it's a version of Ubuntu designed to work on low-specification computers. It mimics the Ubuntu releases. Xubuntu 9.04 is released.
[04:45] <Neroon> edge: yes?
[04:45] <enduser000> Shawnc: are you in jaunty?
[04:45] <edge> id get it oh well brb
[04:45] <Shawnc> no
[04:45] <Shawnc> 9.04
[04:45] <Neroon> edge: thought you restard
[04:45] <Neroon> edge: restart
[04:45] <Brando753> guys would ubuntu log or record any information of files placed in a truecrypt vault and if so how can i delete those logs?
[04:45] <enduser000> ok, sry.  I think it mostly does "sudo apt-get autoremove" but it is a gui
[04:45] <Shawnc> I tried that.
[04:46] <enduser000> I know
[04:46] <ken_> hi
[04:46] <enduser000> hmm, anyone know a lot about apt-get??
[04:46] <welltb> hello
[04:46] <welltb> anyone know anything about DWM?
[04:46] <server_> arand: are you with me
[04:46] <server_> I'm lost man
[04:46] <Shawnc> enduser000: I will be right back, if you can ask around for me I would appreciate it.
[04:47] <tritium> enduser000: just ask your question
[04:47] <ken_> no man
[04:47] <Shawnc> tritium: It's my question which is: Hello, can someone help me please? I get this error when ever I try to apt-get install stuff (http://pastebin.ca/1499686), then when I do the apt-get -f install like it says I get an error too (http://pastebin.ca/1499685), What can I do to fix this?
[04:47] <server_> arand: I do not want to make more damage can you tell me how can I can save my tables ?
[04:47] <arand> server_: I have no prior experience with testdisk, good info here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step seems you have to anyalyse, edit and then write...
[04:47] <enduser000> that was for Shawnc
[04:47] <ken_> what abt installing fifa09
[04:47] <Sinatra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=932896 In stupid person language, what is the probablity i can get my webcam to work?
[04:47] <enduser000> my question is this: does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[04:48] <server_> okay arand Thank you so much for your help. I really appreciated what you have done. Thank you
[04:48] <tritium> Shawnc: how did you get to this point?  What were you doing?
[04:48] <Shawnc> Nothing
[04:48] <jimnkristy> hey guys i have a question about using a usb with ubuntu
[04:48] <ufo> hello guy's, do you know if in ubuntu there is an application to run and develop mobile phone application like for iphone for exemple ?
[04:48] <enduser000> jimnkristy: what's that?
[04:48] <tritium> Shawnc: I need more than "nothing."  What release are you running, etc.?
[04:48] <Shawnc> I woke up today and tried to apt-get install build-essential because i couldn't compile stuff, then that happend.
[04:48] <bullgard4> 'man yelp': " You can also start Yelp by choosing Desktop->Help.  This will show the top-level help system page, listing all GNOME documents conveniently organized by topic." How can I choose 'Desktop > Help'? What is the start position for this act?
[04:48] <Shawnc> 9.04.
[04:48] <Andorin> richardcavell: Thanks.
[04:49] <richardcavell> Andorin: no problems.
[04:49] <WIGGMPk> I have a situation, I just reinstalled Jaunty and when I run "sudo fdisk -ls" from the terminal it returns, "Unable to seek on /dev/sda" what is going on and how do I fix it?
[04:49] <tritium> Shawnc: and?
[04:49] <arand> server_: testdisk should be able to make a backup copy of the partition table (as well as mbr, which is kind of in the same package) as far as I know...
[04:49] <Shawnc> And what?
[04:49] <jimnkristy> Im trying to use a cruzer 1gb usb drive with 8.04 and have reformated the drive fat32, but still wont mount
[04:49] <welltb> Anyone know how to configure DWM
[04:50] <tritium> Shawnc: what were you doing when you got these errors?  apt-get from the command line?  running the udpate manager?  What?
[04:50] <Shawnc> apt-get from command line
[04:50] <alteregoa> whats here wrong=
[04:50] <alteregoa> ln -s /usr/lib32/libjpeg.so.62 `pwd`/lib32/libjpeg.so?
[04:50] <alteregoa> is pwd the directory?
[04:51] <edge> hello? im back
[04:51] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[04:51] <tritium> Shawnc: what were you attempting, please?
[04:51] <Neroon> edge: wbv
[04:51] <edge> wbv?
[04:51] <Neroon> edge: wb
[04:51] <edge> I GOT IT TO WORK BTW!
[04:51] <Shawnc> Nothing tritium.. Like i said apt-get install build-essential
[04:51] <Neroon> edge: are you sure? even the cube?
[04:51] <edge> I installed my graphics drivers and i had to restart first
[04:52] <Neroon> edge: i was about to ask about your drivers next
[04:52] <edge> how do i add sides to the cube?
[04:52] <tritium> Shawnc: you didn't mention that (at least to me, yet)  You said you were installing "stuff".
[04:52] <Neroon> just a sec
[04:52] <jimnkristy> there is 1300 people on this channel?  wow
[04:52] <tritium> Shawnc: have you run "sudo dpkg --configure --pending"?
[04:52] <Neroon> edge: general options desktop size
[04:53] <Shawnc> nothing comes up
[04:53] <Neroon> edge:  and then horizontal virtual size up to 4 for a cube
[04:53] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[04:53] <richardcavell> jimnkristy: You'd think we were trading pr0n in this channel with that number of participants
[04:53] <edge> Neroon, i need windows drivers for my network card.... how do i get? i cant connect to the internet on windows....  And normally i wouldnt even be using ubuntu but its the only thing that works and no one on the windows channel will help me :(
[04:53] <Shawnc> tritium: nothing comes up.
[04:53] <jimnkristy> yea no kidding or movies or mp3s  heh
[04:54] <Neroon> edge:  as long as i fiddled around with win, i dont anymore, sorry.
[04:54] <Neroon> edge: why dont you try the manufacturer homepage?
[04:54] <Neroon> edge: got a 4-sided cube now?
[04:55] <tritium> Shawnc: you must have some errors in your /etc/apt/sources.list.  For example, libc6-dev 2.9-4ubuntu6 is what's in the 9.04 repositories.  Not what's listed in your error message.
[04:55] <Brando753> guys would ubuntu log or record any information of files placed in a truecrypt vault and if so how can i delete those logs?
[04:55] <jimnkristy> ok i have a question about usinkg synaptic package manager and installing software  if someone wants to help me.
[04:55] <edge> how do i make a four sided cube...? it wont work!
[04:55] <Neroon> edge: general options desktop size
[04:56] <joey_> can someone please guide me through creating a channels.conf file so i can watch TV through m player.  I live in Australia QLD Wide bay if this helps
[04:56] <Neroon> edge: got that?
[04:56] <edge> yeah
[04:56] <edge> mpw what?
[04:56] <Neroon> edge:  and then horizontal virtual size up to 4 for a cube
[04:56] <enduser000> edge: more workspaces
[04:56] <edge> now what>
[04:56] <edge> ?
[04:56] <Shawnc> tritium: http://pastebin.ca/1499759
[04:56] <enduser000> edge
[04:56] <enduser000> whoops
[04:56] <Neroon> edge: and i wrote that long ago already ...
[04:56] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[04:56] <tritium> joey_: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Adding_Digital_Cable_Channels_(For_ATSC/QAM_Tuner_Cards_--_USA/Canada)
[04:56] <tritium> joey_: (technically, offtopic here)
[04:57] <edge> its a cylinder not a cube...
[04:57] <arand> server_: just asked in ##linux, answer was bust partition table might be a reasonable assumption (Well at least two persons thinks it is the case then)... although one thing that could be tried before is just "find /boot" and "find /boot/grub" to see if it's only the stage1 file that's missing (Using the grub terminal as before... I doubt that since fdisk pointed towards no partitions found either, but if you want you could check that as we
[04:57] <Neroon> edge: so you got ....cube deflection and deformation activated
[04:57] <joey_> tritium Thanks
[04:57] <Neroon> edge: disable that plugin
[04:57] <tritium> Shawnc: you said you were running 9.04.  Not so, according to your sources.list.
[04:57] <edge> k
[04:57] <edge> works now
[04:58] <edge> thanks alot
[04:58] <Neroon> edge: you're welcome
[04:58] <tritium> joey_: no worries
[04:58] <Neroon> edge: still use the name in front of a message if it goes to one person only
[04:58] <edge> how can i make a desktop on the top and bottom of the cube?
[04:59] <Neroon> edge: you cant
[04:59] <ryanprior> I want to create a .tar file with a bunch of sound files, and a playlist file that plays them all in a certain order (like a mix tape). For example, take a vanilla Brad Sucks album and turn it into a "mixtape" file containing the music and a playlist of the songs in order.  How can I do that?
[04:59] <Shawnc> I am.
[04:59] <edge> oh dat sux
[04:59] <tritium> Shawnc: "lsb_release -a" output, please?
[04:59] <welltb> hello...anyone know how to configure DWM?
[04:59] <h3n> i'm getting this error
[04:59] <h3n> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[05:00] <h3n> anyone help?
[05:00] <server_> arand: things seems are going out of and for me
[05:00] <Shawnc> oh 8.04
[05:00] <Shawnc> sorry
[05:00] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[05:00] <Neroon> h3n: that's not an error
[05:00] <bullgard4> 'man yelp': " You can also start Yelp by choosing Desktop->Help.  This will show the top-level help system page, listing all GNOME documents conveniently organized by topic." How can I choose 'Desktop > Help'? What is the start position for this act?
[05:00] <h3n> Neroom: oops
[05:00] <h3n> libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:00] <h3n> that error
[05:01] <ufo> i want to run some mobile phone app on my ubuntu 9.04 , do you know any emulator for that ?
[05:01] <server_> arand: I could not find linux partion when I go with sudo the only way I can see it if I do testdisk. if testdisk can install on that linux partion grub then I think I would be fine. any suggestion on that. but I guess you have told me you never work on it
[05:01] <tritium> !info libc6 hardy
[05:01] <Neroon> h3n: and when does that error occur?
[05:01] <h3n> I downgraded from mesa 7.4 to 7.0.3
[05:01] <arand> server_: well, a broken partition table is out of hand for most users really, first time I ever saw it :/
[05:01] <Neroon> h3n: i see. but sorry, not a clut about mesa
[05:01] <edge> whats virtual box?
[05:02] <Neroon> h3n: *clue
[05:02] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox |  edge
[05:02] <sebsebseb> edge: that's free as in price, so the non free one, is really the better one, since the USB support
[05:02] <enduser000> ---
[05:03] <sebsebseb> edge: uh no free as in freedom,   the  one it  says is non free,  is the closed source one
[05:03] <sebsebseb> edge: ,but both are free as in price
[05:03] <edge> ok
[05:03] <edge> what does it do?
[05:04] <arand> server_: by the way, testdisk will not install grub, it will install/rewrite the partition table, which is a dedicated section in the beginning of each harddrive which has the infromation about where partitons start and end.
[05:04] <ryanprior> Are there any Ubuntu music players that can make playlist files?
[05:04] <Neroon> edge: you can install other os in your current os
[05:04] <MenZa> ryanprior→ Several! Including the built-in Rhythmbox.
[05:04] <pizzledizzle> how do you tell which cron manager is installed
[05:04] <edge> Is their any good graphics games for ubuntu? I finally got a nice computer and i cant even test the specs!
[05:04] <jimnkristy> have a question about synaptic if someone can help
[05:05] <Shawnc> tritium: oh 8.04
[05:05] <ryanprior> MenZa: once I create a Rhythmbox playlist, where do I find the file for it?
[05:05] <enduser000> ryanprior: totem
[05:05] <MenZa> ryanprior→ I dunno, you might be able to export it. I use audacious myself.
[05:05] <MenZa> ryanprior→ (very Winamp-like)
[05:05] <ryanprior> enduser000: how do I save a Totem playlist as a file?
[05:05] <danny_> wasnt restarting X always control+alt+backspace? y isnt that working for me anymore?
[05:06] <Shawnc> tritium: can you find me the url to findutils? the newest one? I will try to overwrite the one I have with that one.
[05:06] <Gnea> edge: tremulous, wesnoth
[05:06] <Neroon> danny_: jaunty?
[05:06] <enduser000> danny_: that should be logout...
[05:06] <ryanprior> danny_: We disabled that to keep people from doing it by mistake. You can re-enable it if your X server isn't very stable.
[05:06] <Shawnc> I installed a different one the other night.
[05:06] <Shawnc> tritium: is http://packages.ubuntu.com down for you too?
[05:06] <danny_> ryanprior, so how do i restart x?
[05:07] <tritium> Shawnc: yes, it is.
[05:07] <Shawnc> How long will it be down for?
[05:07] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ryanprior: How is it reanbled?2
[05:07] <tritium> Shawnc: no idea.
[05:07] <jimnkristy> need some help with synaptic
[05:07] <Shawnc> tritium: can you find me a new version of findutils?
[05:07] <ryanprior> CoJaBo-Aztec, danny_: to re-enable it, install the dontzap utilit (sudp apt-get install dontzap) and then run "sudo dontzap --enable"
[05:08] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[05:08] <tritium> Shawnc: it looks like you have it downloaded, and unpacked, just not fully configured and installed.
[05:08] <danny_> ryanprior, thanks
[05:08] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ryanprior: also fhsnks
[05:08] <igsen> jimnkristy?
[05:09] <jimnkristy> igsen: yes  when loading a program using synaptic
[05:09] <ryanprior> CoJaBo-Aztec, danny_: actually, run "dontzap --disable"; "dontzap --enable" lets you disable the effect again. It's a little counter-intuitive. =P
[05:09] <arand> server_: but like I said, thing to do now is learning testdisk and hope that it will be able to rewrite the partition table correctly. Hope it works out \o/
[05:09] <jimnkristy> it says its done, but I cant find it on desktop or in menus above
[05:09] <igsen> jim, what program is that?
[05:10] <jimnkristy> Igsen:  it said it installed correctly but i just cant find it.  it is celestia
[05:10] <server_> thank you so much arand: you have been really of great help. hopefully I can fix this and definitely do a RAID so this wont happen again on me
[05:10] <enduser000> jimnkristy: try "whereis appname"
[05:10] <enduser000> in a terminal
[05:11] <h3n> I'm downgrading from Mesa 7.5.0 to Mesa 7.0.4 can anyone help?
[05:11] <igsen> jim, Go back to synaptic and right click on celestia.
[05:11] <jimnkristy> igsen: and?
[05:12] <jimnkristy> options are reinstall remove and the such
[05:12] <jimnkristy> when i type in whereis I get this
[05:12] <jimnkristy>  /usr/bin/celestia /etc/celestia.cfg /usr/share/celestia /usr/share/man/man1/celestia.1.gz
[05:13] <thomson> for some reason i don't think the gnome and kde desktop environments have got it right yet...
[05:13] <Shawnc> backj
[05:14] <jimnkristy> im very new to linux, but it looks like it installed, but I dont have the interface set up right.
[05:14] <igsen> Go to terminal and type celestia.
[05:14] <edbian> jimnkristy: Be more specific.  What do you mean the interface??
[05:15] <edge> http://www.youtube.com/user/toasterwizard94 plz subscribe my vids are awesome!
[05:15] <poningru> jimnkristy, which application are you trying to run?
[05:15] <jimnkristy> igsen: that works great, but how do I get an icon or something in the drop down menus to start it
[05:16] <divkladek> Does anyone know of a good virtual machine application for ubuntu?
[05:16] <edge> virtualbox
[05:16] <igsen> jim, maybe the program does not have gui.
[05:16] <divkladek> Thank you. :)
[05:16] <poningru> jimnkristy, you can add it with menu editor
[05:16] <jimnkristy> igsen:  so you just have to remember to type it in the terminal
[05:16] <poningru> or you can just do alt+f2 and type that name in
[05:16] <jimnkristy> poningru:  im listening to you too
[05:16] <igsen> jim, i don't know my knowledge is limited.
[05:17] <poningru> jimnkristy, no worries
[05:17] <sebsebseb> !ubottu
[05:17] <sebsebseb> uh   I wanted pm window nevermind
[05:18] <axisys> !ksplice
[05:18] <axisys> anyone used ksplice?
[05:18] <axisys> wanted to try it
[05:18] <JavaAtom> I have an error after running a package upgrade where X says I'm running in low-graphics mode and has "Failed to load module 'type 1'" and "Failed to initialize the nivida kernel module" errors.  Is there a way to revert back to an earlier version without breaking it further?
[05:18] <poningru> jimnkristy, did you find the menu editing thing?
[05:18] <axisys> nice to eliminate reboot requirement after kernel upgrade
[05:18] <jimnkristy> poninrgru: yes i did  thanks
[05:18] <poningru> axisys, only with rhel
[05:19] <poningru> never did try it with ubuntu
[05:19] <Neroon> does anyone by chance know about fglrx and black screen parts after fullscreen opengl applications?
[05:19] <JavaAtom> **running Nvidia 9400GT with version 180 of the nvidia drivers.
[05:19] <edge> any really good video editing programs for ubuntu/
[05:20] <edge> ?
[05:20] <axisys> poningru: just installed it using apt-get install ksplice.. now what ? so when u install a kernel patch.. how does ksplice play then? assuming u used yum there to install it
[05:20] <Wicked> !backintime
[05:20] <doubled> whats this channel for
[05:20] <doubled> can i get porn here
[05:21] <axisys> doubled: check the /topic
[05:21] <poningru> axisys, unfortunately no
[05:21]  * JavaAtom thinks "A troll approaches..."
[05:21] <doubled> damnit
[05:21] <Neroon> JavaAtom: so di i
[05:21] <doubled> called me out already
[05:21] <doubled> fml
[05:21] <Wicked> doubled, yea. seeing how linux support rooms are notorious for porn.....
[05:21] <doubled> i should have taken another angle
[05:21] <doubled> maybe not connected from mIRC
[05:21] <axisys> poningru: how does ksplice come into play in rhel once the installation ?
[05:21] <poningru> the ksplice has to have its own patches for the kernel
[05:22] <poningru> axisys, http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/
[05:22] <poningru> use that I suppose
[05:22] <poningru> axisys, we rolled our own patches
[05:22] <doubled> you guys think i can troll those fedora fags?
[05:22] <JavaAtom> Anybody willing to help troubleshoot a rather dumb nvidia / X.org error?
[05:22] <doubled> maybe they arent as sharp
[05:22] <Neroon> JavaAtom: regarding your x prob. did you let the installer change your x.org file?
[05:22] <axisys> poningru: thanks
[05:23] <JavaAtom> Neroon: Errr... possibly. I used the update manager and on reboot, I have no gui.
[05:23] <sebsebseb> !ops  |   doubled
[05:23] <bullgard4> 'man yelp': "You can also start Yelp by choosing Desktop->Help.  This will show the top-level help system page, listing all GNOME documents conveniently organized by topic." How can I choose 'Desktop > Help'? What is the start position for this act?
[05:24] <Neroon> JavaAtom: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[05:24] <sergio> hey ya'll...
[05:24] <caffemisto> Hi.  is there a way to backup my current installation and use that backup against a fresh install.  so i would be back to the way i have it configured without having to redo everything.  Thanks.
[05:24] <enduser000> caffemisto: remastersys
[05:24] <Pici> bullgard4: Probably System>Help & Support
[05:25] <JavaAtom> Neroon: "Failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module!" and then aborts, unloading all the modules.
[05:25] <sergio> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a HDD that is plugged in to an external case and then take it and intsall that HDD in my desktop.
[05:25] <Neroon> JavaAtom: Hm. You might try to get the right driver vom nvidia.com and install it manually
[05:26] <JavaAtom> Neroon: I assume instructions for that are available via the ubuntu wiki?
[05:26] <sergio> I would just run it in the desktop, but I only have usb keyboards and it stops working when the 'select your language' appears
[05:26] <eoeas> caffemisto: man dd (could use to copy from block dev to file and vise versa)
[05:26] <Neroon> JavaAtom: could be, never tried that. Did it on my own. Isnt magical ;-)
[05:27] <WIGGMPk> Fresh install of Jaunty and running "sudo fdisk -ls" returns this: "Unable to seek on /dev/sda" Please help!!
[05:27] <andry> help install avg in ubuntu remix work / not ?
[05:27] <JavaAtom> Neroon: Found them. And I prefer having some instruction somewhere. This is my media pc, so I'm rather hoping that the three weeks I put into it aren't down the drain.
[05:27] <sebsebseb> !virus |  andry
[05:27] <h3n> Does anyone know where to get mesa 7.0.3 package
[05:27] <Prabhat_> hi all
[05:27] <Neroon> JavaAtom: Dont worry, even if it messed up your xorg.conf, there isnt lost anything
[05:27] <sebsebseb> andry: the Linux antivirus programs about all they do is scan for Windows virsues, which won't infect your  Ubuntu install
[05:28] <Prabhat_> need help regarding data recovery in ubuntu
[05:28] <eoeas> Prabhat_: Hi
[05:28] <Neroon> JavaAtom: and you should thank god, you got a nvidia card ...
[05:28] <Prabhat_> hi eoeas
[05:28] <poningru> !ask | Prabhat_
[05:28] <JavaAtom> Neroon: I always go with nvidia when I build a linux box.
[05:29] <eoeas> harddrive failure ?
[05:29] <Prabhat_> ok
[05:29] <sergio> When I start the LiveCD install I choose the external disc but when it gets about to partiton it says it is going to make a change to my laptops internal drive.
[05:29] <Neroon> JavaAtom: so will i, but i got a free pc with an old ati card
[05:29] <JavaAtom> Neroon: This was a "free" pc (stole it from my sister and gave her a netbook) that I built for her to tinker with.
[05:30] <Neroon> JavaAtom: Hehe
[05:30] <andry> thanks for informasion !! i have for scan windows files.
[05:30] <caffemisto> enduser000, installing remastersys now :)
[05:30] <Neroon> JavaAtom: So you're installing the driver already?
[05:30] <alteregoa> where can i set the path variable on linux?
[05:30] <caffemisto> sounds promising.  thank you. ;)
[05:30] <JavaAtom> Neroon: Ah, actually, just found the -manual- instructions, since the automagic stuff doesn't work.
[05:31] <Neroon> JavaAtom: I see
[05:31] <danny_> another quick question... when i try to save my x configuration using the nvidia tool via system>administration it says permision denied. how do i save the x config?
[05:31] <joetheodd> Hey guys.. how can I get the 32-bit version of xserver-xorg-video-intel installed on a 64-bit Ubuntu? (for Wine purposes)
[05:31] <Prabhat_> I formatted my harddrive to install ubuntu but missed to copy some important dat....... earlier fedora was there on my machine. Any way to recover that formatted data ?
[05:32] <joetheodd> Prabhat_, it depends on where it was physically on the drive. Chances are if you installed a whole new OS, no.
[05:32] <zenlunatic> alteregoa: try PATH=$PATH":/dir/dir"
[05:32] <homovitruvius> somebody
[05:32] <JavaAtom> Neroon: Are you sure that manually installing the latest nvidia driver will do anything?
[05:32] <Lynnix> ccsm
[05:32] <eoeas> Prabhat_: sudo apte-get install testdisk
[05:32] <Neroon> JavaAtom: Well, it worked every time for me here
[05:32] <eoeas> man testdisk
[05:32] <zenlunatic> alteregoa: ubuntu seems to not have a .bash_profile which throws me of
[05:33] <eoeas> worked for me
[05:33] <eoeas> recovers partitions and data
[05:33] <enduser000> caffemisto: it is, I install ubuntu, remove some apps, update, and make a backup as new releases so when I reinstall I get a 6 min updated install ^^.  gl with it
[05:33] <bullgard4> Pici: Thank you for commenting.
[05:33] <alteregoa> ty
[05:33] <JavaAtom> Neroon: can do.
[05:33] <alteregoa> zenulatic is this persistent?
[05:33] <alteregoa> after restart?
[05:34] <Prabhat_> The install was a completely new install...... I tried testdisk but no sucess
[05:34] <vlad__> hey guys . the total newb is here
[05:34] <Neroon> Is it normal, that samba asks for login and pwd although it's the same user on both pc's?
[05:34] <vlad__> hey can any1 help me with my sound drivers
[05:34] <eoeas> Prabhat_: hmm ??
[05:35] <disappearedng> Hey how come when I am trying "apt-get source screen" it say unable to find a source package for screen ?"
[05:35] <sergio> Any ideas...anyone
[05:35] <zenlunatic> alteregoa: well if there was .bash_profile yes but I'm not sure as ubuntu is different apparantly... try to log out and in and echo $PATH
[05:35] <danny_> when i try to save my x configuration using the nvidia tool via system>administration it says permision denied. how do i save the x config?
[05:35] <andry> help !! i have huawei e220 to connect internet but some ubuntu ask possword ?
[05:35] <Blancmange> Neroon: I avoid samba and just use SSH. :)
[05:36] <Prabhat_> eoeas: I tried with testdisk but cannot find my data after the new installation
[05:36] <Neroon> Blancmange: Well, thanks for the advice, but that didnt help ;-)
[05:36] <enduser000> does anyone know why I can't get separate x screens working? twinview and xinerama both work.  here are some screenshots and more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201860
[05:36] <Harryy> I would love help with this problem if anyone is around. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7639582
[05:36] <JavaAtom> Neroon: hah. Just got a "xserver-xorg-core is broken" message.
[05:37] <Bookman> I have no sound in adobe flash based websites....any ideas?
[05:37] <eoeas> Prabhat_: I c what you mean, don't wanna guess or experiment, so i'll say a don't know
[05:37] <Blancmange> Neroon: I've never got SMB to work reliably under Windows, either, so I figure Samba is just emulating it's faults faithfully.
[05:37] <Neroon> JavaAtom: But that didnt come from the now installed nvidia driver
[05:37] <JavaAtom> Neroon: Not yet.
[05:37] <JavaAtom> Neroon: I'm trying to remove all existing nvidia drivers.
[05:37] <Neroon> Blancmange: I cant believe that, it's too long around for that and too far spread
[05:37] <eoeas> Prabhat_: How big is the data?
[05:38] <Prabhat_> eoeas: i am rying sudo apte-get install testdisk but getting a error message saying "command not found"
[05:38] <SirStan> Blancmange: SMB is a very reliable protocol.  It works great on windows, and great under samba.
[05:38] <Prabhat_> eoeas: It's aroung 2-3 GB
[05:38] <eoeas> apt not apte
[05:38] <eoeas> maybe?
[05:38] <Neroon> JavaAtom: You might need to reinstall the whole xorg-core package again ...
[05:39] <Prabhat_> eoeas: OK its apt
[05:39] <JavaAtom> Neroon: I am guessing that requires apt-get purge xorg-core / install xorg-core?
[05:39] <eoeas> Prabhat_: working now?
[05:39] <Neroon> JavaAtom: I would guess so, too. Never had to do it
[05:40] <iJim> Hello
[05:40] <Neroon> JavaAtom: But when did the message appear?
[05:40] <iJim> What does this mean "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/x11/xorg.conf'!"?
[05:40] <JavaAtom> Neroon: When I tried using apt-get to remove nvidia-glx-180.
[05:40] <Neroon> JavaAtom: Well, then there still is hope, I guess
[05:40] <Blancmange> Neroom/SirStan. Odd. I can never get my head around the Master Browser issues (which i assume is related to SMB) with the mix of various Windows machines in my flat. Sys logs say stuff like "Computer X is trying to take over the world. The others are trying to force an election."
[05:41] <andry> Help ! i have huawei e220 to connect internet . but ubuntu some ask password to conect modem huawei e220?
[05:41] <Prabhat_> eoeas: Thanks for the command .... its working presently...... lets see it helps or not
[05:41] <WIGGMPk> Fresh install of Jaunty and running "sudo fdisk -ls" returns this: "Unable to seek on /dev/sda" Please help!!
[05:41] <helpmeplease> I chose guided and use the whole disk of the 300GB HDD but when it asks am I sure it says it is going to change my internal HDD and my 300GB HDD
[05:41] <Neroon> Blancmange: Was that adressed to me as well? If yes, why?
[05:42] <eoeas> Prabhat_: ;-) will take time though, but had a similar problem and it worked (no guarantees)
[05:42] <rodd> I'm having trouble installing/configuring lighttpd from source in ubuntu, can anyone help?
[05:42] <rodd> 'service lighttpd start' does nothing
[05:43] <edbian> rodd: To start services: "sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd start"
[05:43] <Blancmange> Neroom: It looked like some of those split thread thing.
[05:43]  * Blancmange pokes Samba a little.
[05:43] <Prabhat_> eoeas: update | command has completed now what to do ?
[05:43] <iJim> I have graphic issues on my nvidia, my LCD monitor wont max out over 640x480 but my CRT will set to normal size. I am using Twinview.
[05:43] <rodd> edbian, also does nothing
[05:43] <Neroon> Blancmange: my name is misspelled (tip: tabulator completes names)
[05:44] <edbian> rodd: Do you have lighttpd installed?
[05:44] <rodd> of course
[05:44] <rodd> i installed from source, following their tutorial
[05:44] <Harryy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7639582 <-- help me please. :D
[05:44] <disappearedng> sudo apt-get build-dep screen How come I can't find any inforamtion on the package screen?
[05:44] <edbian> rodd: Look in /etc/init.d/  Do you even have a lighttpd file in there?
[05:44] <Blancmange> Naroon: Cheers!
[05:44] <Phill> Hey guys! I have a Westinghouse Digital widescreen monitor (22.1") The resolution isn't right (And I don't actually know what the correct one is!) WindowsXP uses 1600*900 which works fairly well, but I can't seem to set that up in Linux - also, when I tried resetting my resolution through nvidia X Server settings, it lets me try a few (1360x768) works alright. But now - the main problem is that my Theme doesn't display. (By theme, I mean top b
[05:44] <rodd> edbian,  yes, http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/lighttpd/wiki/InstallFromSource
[05:44] <Neroon> Bluncminge: Sure
[05:45] <rodd> edbian,  i did all what that page says
[05:45] <helpmeplease> Well, could someone just tell me to go away then, at least then I know you can see me...
[05:45] <eoeas> Prabhat_: suggest u unmount the partition! then check the manual, haven't used it for a while
[05:45] <ttl9> anyone her good with tomcat?
[05:45] <ttl9> *here
[05:46] <ttl9> does tomcat have something built in similar to apache's Header unset that allows you to remove certain headers returned by the webserver?
[05:46] <Neroon> JavaAtom: Any progress yet?
[05:46] <edbian> rodd: You have a file in /etc/init.d called "lighttpd" but sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd start does nothing??
[05:46] <rodd> edbian,  yes
[05:46] <Prabhat_> eoeas: I have only one partition
[05:47] <edbian> rodd: That is very odd.  Perhaps the install went wrong somewhere?
[05:47] <rodd> it should output a message 'starting lighttpd..'
[05:47] <JavaAtom> Neroon: Reading some things. Can't seem to do anything without apt-get freaking out.
[05:47] <disappearedng> Hey can someone tell me what's the GNU repository address?
[05:47] <andry> help ! i have huawei e220 to connect ! but if connect ubuntu asking password to connect to huawei e220 ?
[05:47] <iJim> I have graphic issues on my nvidia, my LCD monitor wont max out over 640x480 but my CRT will set to normal size. I am using Twinview.
[05:47] <edbian> rodd: Yes.  Or at least an error message.  You are aware that lighttpd is in the repos?
[05:47] <rodd> edbian,  yes but I need the latest version 1.4.23
[05:47] <rodd> which isnt there
[05:47] <edbian> rodd: I don't think I can help you! :(
[05:48] <rodd> ok thanks anyway
[05:48] <edge> anyone here use vuze?
[05:48] <Phill> iJim: Kinda same problem here too. I got it to go over 640*480 (widescreen right?) but now my theme won't display anymore. (the top bar with minimize, maximize, close)
[05:48] <edbian> JavaAtom: run "sudo apt-get install -f" to "fix" apt-get
[05:48] <iJim> No Phill I have a 17inch normal 1280x1024 display
[05:48] <eoeas> Prabhat_: you will have to start from a ubuntu live CD, you can still use IRC from there for help, you can't modify or check a mounted system partition.
[05:48] <Phill> iJim: Darn, guess we don't have the same problem :(
[05:49] <JavaAtom> edbian: When I do that, I see a line saying that my entire Xserver system and XBMC will be removed.
[05:49] <iJim> I use dual displays and I have for a while, but my CRT will set to normal, but the LCD wont
[05:49] <edge> how do i search torrents on vuze?
[05:49] <helpmeplease> edge: what version of VUZE?
[05:49] <edbian> JavaAtom: You've been messing with packages huh
[05:49] <tanath> can anyone help me with this? i keep getting this email: http://pastebin.ca/1499814
[05:50] <R_W_W> Is there some fundamental problem with the Flash plugin? It only ever works for a short time for me in Firefox...
[05:50] <edge> latest
[05:50] <edbian> JavaAtom: What does apt-get freak about when you try to install some software.  Can you give me errors?
[05:50] <JavaAtom> edbian: Not intentionally. The update manager installed updates, but then my X ran in low-resolution mode.
[05:50] <edge> helpmeplease, latest
[05:50] <edbian> JavaAtom: Ic Ic.  What did you do?  Can you recap (at least vaguely) for me?
[05:50] <tanath> usually once a day
[05:50] <helpmeplease> 4.X it just type in the search box and it should ask you if you want to search common Bittorrent sites.
[05:51] <Neroon> JavaAtom: what does apt-get do or say?
[05:51] <WIGGMPk> Anyone? before I smash this laptop? "sudo fdisk -ls" yeilds "Unable to seek on /dev/sda" on a FRESH install of Jaunty???
[05:51] <Blancmange> Neroom: I guess it's perfectly normal that Sambas must ask you for the username and password, even though you are the 'same' user on each host. It's just not in a position to know you are the same user on each host. I'm sure if there was a method for it to join you in a seamless way, that method could be used by another user to gain your privilleges.
[05:51] <JavaAtom> neroon & edbian: I mis-spoke --- recapping: I updated my nvidia drivers, apparently, to "185.19.0" via the update manager.  I restarted and I got to a low-resolution screen, tried to change the resolution and the system claimed I wasn't using nvidia drivers.
[05:51] <edbian> JavaAtom: I got booted.  I'm back now! :)
[05:52] <edbian> JavaAtom: At what point to apt-get freak out?
[05:52] <JavaAtom> Neroon & edbian: From there, I've been trying to reinstall packages.
[05:52] <JavaAtom> edbian: I don't want to spam the channel.
[05:52] <Prabhat_> eoeas: thanks for the guidance........ I am refering to the documantation as u said
[05:52] <Neroon> Blencmunge: I'm not definetely sure, but I remember vaguely that was different some time ago
[05:52] <JavaAtom> edbian: Can I pm you what I just said a moment ago?
[05:52] <edbian> JavaAtom: Yes
[05:53] <WIGGMPk> edbian: you remember me? lol I could mount the encyrpted home.. well I reinstalled.. now "sudo fdisk -ls" returns with "Unable to seek on /dev/sda" what you think?
[05:53] <Prabhat_> eoeas: You a normal user or some support personel ?
[05:53] <Neroon> JavaAtom: might as well join a private chat all 3
[05:54] <JavaAtom> Neroon: fair 'nuff -- where we going?
[05:54] <edbian> WIGGMPk: Well for one there is no such thing as "-ls"  just -l for fdisk
[05:54] <tanath> can anyone help me with this? i keep getting this email like every day, about a locale error: http://pastebin.ca/1499814
[05:54] <WIGGMPk> edbian: sorry, typo
[05:54] <Neroon> JavaAtom: Uh, wrong question. I don't use irc very frequently ...
[05:54] <eoeas> Prabhat_: power user :P (normal)
[05:54] <edbian> WIGGMPk: Did you reformat?
[05:55] <Blancmange> Neroon: Perhaps the password thing was successful and more persistent than you remembered. Sometimes I surprise myself with the persistence of SFTP/SSH login authentication. :)
[05:55] <JavaAtom> Neroon & edbian: /join #javaatom_help
[05:55] <edbian> JavaAtom: What made apt-get freak out?  What is it saying?
[05:55] <edbian> JavaAtom: will do
[05:55] <WIGGMPk> edbian: yes.. reinstalled three times now.. same results.. its still on the same RAID0 array
[05:56] <edbian> WIGGMPk:  IS this the same encrypted /home partition you're trying to access?
[05:56] <Neroon> Blancmange: Well but I dont remember forgetting it every few minutes either. Or even on entering another share on the same pc
[05:56] <Prabhat_> eoeas: really admire your knowlwdge on ubuntu
[05:56] <WIGGMPk> edbian: nope.. reformatted everything.. gave up on the data and called it a lose
[05:56] <R_W_W> Is there any way to get the Flash plugin to work with more than one tab open?
[05:57] <eoeas> Prabhat_: trial and error, like most of us, you probably know stuff i don't
[05:57] <edbian> WIGGMPk: What is the issue besides not being able to fdisk -l ??
[05:57] <Gnea> !sound
[05:57] <WIGGMPk> edbian: the only thing I can think of is the newly downloaded install disc got messed up and im in the process of downloading another one right now..
[05:57] <eoeas> Prabhat_: but thanks
[05:58] <edbian> WIGGMPk: What is the issue besides not being able to fdisk -l ?
[05:58] <WIGGMPk> edbian: nothing that I can tell.. Ubuntu works fine
[05:58] <alteregoa> hmm
[05:59] <edbian> WIGGMPk: Then why are you downloading a new disk?  What are you trying to fix?  Nothing?
[06:00] <WIGGMPk> edbian: fdisk doesnt recognize my partition tables which is a big deal to me
[06:00] <Prabhat_> eoeas: If I still face some issue then where can I catch you ?
[06:00] <edbian> WIGGMPk: Understandable
[06:00] <edbian> WIGGMPk: What was the error again?
[06:00] <edbian> WIGGMPk: Does gparted see your partitions?
[06:00]  * Gnea considers throwing this soundblaster x-fi 5.1 out the window
[06:00] <tanath> can anyone help me with this? i keep getting this email like every day, about a locale error: http://pastebin.ca/1499814
[06:00] <WIGGMPk> edbian: "Unable to seek on /dev/sda" and yes gparted can see them
[06:02] <eoeas> Prabhat_: 1) you'll find me here 2) you can private message me through this IRC channel (try to c if it works
[06:02] <edbian> WIGGMPk: It's your raid array I suspect
[06:02] <WIGGMPk> edbian: the only difference between this install and the original install that worked is that I put SWAP on a logical partition and added another 1.0 GB logical partition
[06:02] <WIGGMPk> edbian: I didnt make any changes to the array though
[06:03] <Gnea> tanath: try this:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[06:04] <tanath> Gnea, i believe i tried that before, but it's still doing it
[06:04] <tanath> Gnea, i ran it again and it says everything's up-to-date
[06:04] <edbian> WIGGMPk: Have you seen "testdisk"
[06:05]  * blagh slaps adante around a bit with a large trout
[06:05] <Gnea> tanath: okay, what happens if you run the cronjob manually?
[06:05] <Aldaron> Any ideas on how I could install eeebuntu's iso file to an usb stick, using a computer running Slackware Linux? The instructions are for usb-creator, unetbootin and isotostick.sh - none of these seem to make any sense to me (the script works most, but it complains partition isn't flagged bootable. cfdisk doesn't even think there are partitions on the stick. Stick works..)
[06:05] <WIGGMPk> edbian: nope.. saw it one of the posts from google'in though
[06:05] <edbian> yeah
[06:05] <tanath> Gnea, how? never used cron
[06:06] <edbian> WIGGMPk: That's where I got it from too.  I think that you have a bad drive or the array is messing things up.  All of the google results involve the Array
[06:06] <Aldaron> Oh. More correctly: unetbootin won't start, usb-creator will just freeze at the first phase
[06:06]  * Blancmange is looking for an IRC<-->XMPP-MUC bridge that works.
[06:06] <WIGGMPk> edbian: =*( I just cant win
[06:06] <edbian> WIGGMPk: Sorry! :(
[06:06] <WIGGMPk> edbian: dont be.. thanks for your help again
[06:07] <jcape> Question on karmic audio: I'm using an older macbook (2,1 or 3,1), and external audio (speakers, headphones) is not working. The onboard speakers appear to work, and I could fix the missing external audio by fussing with the mixer's weird surround and front channels. How can I either turn on the external audio or find those channels in Karmic/pulseaudio?
[06:07] <edbian> WIGGMPk: NP.  I would keep track of this issue.  You didn't do anything wrong and you can replicate the error which means we have a bug in the system.
[06:07] <edbian> WIGGMPk: You should make a bug report on launchpad
[06:07] <WIGGMPk> edbian: yeah ill get to that later tonight =) thanks
[06:07] <edbian> WIGGMPk: NP
[06:08] <Gnea> tanath: like this:  sudo /etc/cron.daily/man-db
[06:08] <fwaokda> whats a good app for scanning and removing/deleting viruses within ubuntu?
[06:09] <forces> what happen with packages.ubuntu.com ?
[06:09] <tanath> Gnea, no output
[06:09] <Gnea> fwaokda: ubuntu gets viruses? clamav seems to work....
[06:09] <Gnea> tanath: so check your email
[06:09] <fwaokda> Gnea, thanks
[06:09] <Phill> Hi, I have problems showing somethings to screen, for example, some system menu's, and the toolbar(?) or the bar you grab on with minimize, maximize on it. It's not showing up anymore. (What's that bar called?)
[06:09] <Neroon> fwaokda: What viruses?
[06:09] <tanath> Gnea, no new mail...
[06:10] <Gnea> this creative soundblaster x-fi usb card is total garbage, why won't it just work with ubuntu?
[06:10] <tanath> Gnea, so i shouldn't get the emails anymore?
[06:10] <Gnea> tanath: in theory
[06:11] <zopiac> Whenever I open LMMS, the audio output resets to Dummy (No Output). Does anybody know how to fix it?
[06:11] <tanath> Gnea, well, ok thanks for the help. don't suppose you can help me with a graphics issue?
[06:11] <Gnea> tanath: might be able to, kinda struggling with a sound issue
[06:11] <tanath> Gnea, what's the sound issue?
[06:12] <tanath> Gnea, i'm getting graphical glitches all over my screen
[06:12] <Gnea> tanath: I got a soundblaster x-fi usb card last week, I can't change the volume.
[06:12] <Gnea> tanath: what video card?
[06:12] <tanath> Gnea, hrm. ati radeon 9800se
[06:12] <tanath> Gnea, used to work fine, 'till a somewhat recent update
[06:12] <Gnea> tanath: did you install a video driver for it?
[06:12] <gabkdlly_> Phill: try restarting metacity, alt+F2 -> metacity
[06:13] <tanath> Gnea, default OS one worked fine. fglrx had issues, so haven't been using it
[06:13] <Gnea> tanath: try checking your driver:  System->Administration->Hardware drivers
[06:13] <tanath> Gnea, that shows nothing
[06:13] <Phill> gabkdlly_:alt F2 does nothing.
[06:13] <Gnea> weird
[06:13] <tanath> Gnea, and fglrx doesn't seem to work
[06:14] <abhra> hi
[06:14] <Phill> gabkdlly_: whoops, I see why, I had F disabled, I ran it, and nothing happened anyway.
[06:14] <abhra> how to install icons in ubuntu -gnome
[06:14] <tanath> Gnea, says no proprietary drivers are in use, and there's nothing in the list
[06:14] <Gnea> tanath: should be a specific radeon driver for xorg
[06:15] <tanath> Gnea, there's fglrx, but it doesn't show in that app
[06:15] <Gnea> !info xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[06:15] <Gnea> tanath: tried that one?
[06:16] <gletob> Hey I'm looking for a web based torrent client for my ubuntu server.
[06:16] <gabkdlly_> gletob: transmission is good at this
[06:16] <tanath> Gnea, that appears to be what i'm using
[06:16] <Gnea> gletob: torrentflux
[06:16] <gletob> GnarlyBob, is that easy to set up?
[06:16] <Gnea> tanath: oooh...
[06:17] <tanath> Gnea, or it's installed anyway
[06:17] <tanath> Gnea, so's the xserver-xorg-video-ati package
[06:17] <Gnea> tanath: try running this command:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg   then logout/login
[06:17] <tanath> Gnea, HAL reset my xorg.conf
[06:17] <vlad__> uh total newb here asking for trash folder location?
[06:18] <tanath> Gnea, been thru that. my xorg.conf is effectively blank
[06:18] <vlad__> in backtrack4
[06:18] <Gnea> !trash | blan
[06:18] <gabkdlly_> gletob: correction, I don't know if you can run transmission without X
[06:18] <tanath> Gnea, and yet things generally still work fine
[06:18] <vlad__> ty
[06:18] <gletob> Finally I have always wondered where trash was stored.
[06:18] <disappearedng> Anyone manage to get 256 color in screen?
[06:18] <tanath> Gnea, basically it autoconfigures how it should now, unlike earlier releases. only a recent update of some kind borked my graphics
[06:18] <gabkdlly_> Phill: I am out of ideas then, sorry
[06:19] <DayOldPorridge> Could anyone help me out with a GRUB problem?  I'm trying to load a disk.img in Bochs with stage1 and stage2 of GRUB, but whenever I try 'kernel /home/user/kernel.bin' in GRUB, it gives me "Error 17: could not mount selected partition."  Any idea how I could fix this?
[06:19] <DOSchild> hello.
[06:19] <Gnea> tanath: that's odd... but then, ATI has always had horrible linux support
[06:19] <Phill> gabkdlly_: I think it's a problem with my X config. I'm having resolution trouble as well.
[06:19] <tanath> Gnea, yeah, but it worked fine for quite some time there, until recently. now i can barely read
[06:19] <gabkdlly_> Phill: when did all this start ?
[06:20] <tanath> Gnea, and i can't get compiz running either
[06:20] <tanath> Gnea, nor metacity with compositing
[06:20] <tanath> Gnea, but glxinfo still says i have direct rendering
[06:20] <DOSchild> Is there a way to update synaptic's package list to show manually added repositories? I added the cdemu and virtualbox repository, but the programs are not there, they are only installable with apt-get
[06:21] <Phill> gabkdlly_: It happened before, in December, Slart and I debugged it all. It's my monitor, not able to tell X what resolution it should be. Now that I upgraded, I reformatted / and /etc/X11 aswell as my xorg.conf file went with it.
[06:21] <Phill> So, I'm back at square one.
[06:21] <tanath> Gnea, you try alsamixer in terminal?
[06:21] <zenlunatic> whats the package that you can mess with compiz settings
[06:22] <DOSchild> is there a way to update the actual list of packages rather than the versions of the packages in synaptic?
[06:22] <trinium> wow, office 2007 runing perfect in ubuntu, but openoffice it is like gnome, simple
[06:22] <Phill> gabkdlly_: And, I can't open up terminal it seems - it uses transparency - which has failed me. So I don't really know what I can do.
[06:22] <thomson> 234 MB of memory used and i only have xchat open?
[06:22] <tanath> zenlunatic, compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:23] <Gnea> tanath: No mixer elems found
[06:23] <SnuggleBucketXO> Hey
[06:23] <SnuggleBucketXO> This is cool
[06:23] <SnuggleBucketXO> Want singles?
[06:23] <SnuggleBucketXO> NO SINGLES FOR YOU
[06:23] <FloodBot3> SnuggleBucketXO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <Neroon> zenlunatic: And while you're at it, install fusion-icon as well
[06:23] <tanath> Gnea, card recognized?
[06:23] <gabkdlly_> Phill: alt+ctrl+f1 will get you a terminal, and alt+ctrl+f7 will get you back to X
[06:23] <Gnea> !ubuntu | SnuggleBucketXO
[06:23] <tanath> Gnea, might check in alsa channel or something
[06:23] <gabkdlly_> Phill: you can use f2 through f6 as well to get more terminals
[06:24] <Gnea> tanath: I plug it in, it loads the snd-usb-audio module
[06:24] <DOSchild> is there a way to update the actual list of packages rather than the versions of the packages in synaptic? it seems that using the reload option only updated version of the packages inside the added repository
[06:24] <tanath> Gnea, usb audio? is that right?
[06:24] <Gnea> tanath: if i bring up audacious, I can select it and play music through it, but the volume is jacked up all the way
[06:24] <thomson> nautilus?
[06:25] <Gnea> tanath: and that's only through the line-out jack, I don't have a 5.1 surround speaker system for it yet
[06:25] <tanath> Gnea, audacious has different output plugins you can choose. figure out which ones work?
[06:25] <DOSchild> is there a way to update the actual list of packages rather than the versions of the packages in synaptic? it seems that using the reload option only updated version of the packages inside the added repository
[06:25] <Gnea> tanath: I went with the alsa on that one, but I need to be able to change the volume - it has a physical knob on it that's supposed to do that, but it's not hardware-controlled
[06:26] <And> hi
[06:26] <tanath> Gnea, try 'sudo alsa force-reload' and see if you're able to then. you have pulse audio installed? it seems to cause issues and prolly shouldn't be used yet
[06:27] <And> i am newer
[06:27] <And> hoo
[06:27] <sage__> hey
[06:27] <sage__> how often should a buisness back up thier data
[06:27] <trinium> exit
[06:28] <And> what is 'thier data'?
[06:28] <sage__> I got a drive from 07
[06:28] <sage__> it was full of back up for a server
[06:29] <MrPiracy> compiz is not being loaded automaticly. where can i check for possible errors?
[06:30] <DOSchild> is there a way to update the actual list of packages rather than the versions of the packages in synaptic?
[06:30] <tanath> Gnea, check group permissions?
[06:30] <Neroon> MrPiracy: not loaded in gnome automatically?
[06:30] <MrPiracy> Neroon: yes ;)
[06:30] <MrPiracy> Neroon: if i run from terminal it works
[06:31] <Gnea> tanath: yup, I'm in all of the audio and pulse groups just fine
[06:31] <Gnea> tanath: and I stopped pulseaudio just to be safe
[06:31] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Well, I dont have gnome here, but System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs -> doesnt work?
[06:31] <musikgoat|main> DOSchild: when you "update" you are getting the full list of packages provided by the repositories you have set
[06:32] <MrPiracy> Neroon: nope .... i just booted it
[06:32] <Tempus_Fugit> hey all
[06:32] <Tempus_Fugit> new here
[06:32] <MrPiracy> Neroon: command line is just compiz rite?
[06:32] <Phill> My scroll wheel seems inverted - how do I... uninvert it?
[06:32] <Tempus_Fugit> hey anyone know what program will open a .db file??
[06:32] <carpediem> Phill: turn it upside down
[06:33] <tanath> Gnea, hm, well TBH, it'd be easier to help you if it were easier for me to read :P hard to look stuff up when i can barely see. don't suppose you can take a further stab at my graphics issue?
[06:33] <Neroon> MrPiracy: well i dont use the comm line, but you put just compiz into the startup?
[06:33] <Neroon> MrPiracy: you might try fusion-icon there
[06:33] <DOSchild> musikgoat|main, i use the reload button but virtualbox and cdemu still aren't coming up on synaptic
[06:33] <Tempus_Fugit> hey carpediem how ya doin
[06:34] <Neroon> MrPiracy: and it should remember when started, which window manager was used last
[06:34] <tanath> Gnea, it's really frustrating
[06:34] <MrPiracy> Neroon: yes, just compiz and i had installed this fusion-icon thingy ... u think it would be it?
[06:34] <Gnea> tanath: I can give it a go... this is my /proc/asound/cards: 1 [S51            ]: USB-Audio - SB X-Fi Surround 5.1
[06:34] <carpediem> Phill: sorry, I couldn't resist.  Actually, look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for ZAxisMapping, and switch the order of the numbers
[06:34] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i'll take it out of startup and see what happens
[06:34] <carpediem> Tempus_Fugit: hi, doing pretty good
[06:34] <musikgoat|main> DOSchild: what repositories do you have checked?
[06:34] <Neroon> MrPiracy: you could do it by compiz on itself, but if you're going to use fusion-icon anyway ...
[06:34] <Gnea> !ati
[06:35] <Tempus_Fugit> anyone know what will read a .db file
[06:35] <Neroon> MrPiracy: I would put fusion-icon to startup
[06:35] <carpediem> Tempus_Fugit: usually that's SQLite, but there's no guarantee
[06:35] <MrPiracy> Neroon: let me see, brb
[06:35] <DOSchild> musikgoat|main, I have the two default ones checked, the updated Wine repository, the updated Virtualbox Repository, and the cdemu repository
[06:35] <Tempus_Fugit> yeah i tried that and didnt work
[06:36] <Tempus_Fugit> ty
[06:36] <carpediem> Tempus_Fugit: if it is SQLite, there's a SQLite browser for firefox that works pretty good.
[06:36] <tanath> Gnea, you don't have any funky audio/sound settings in the bios do you?
[06:36] <carpediem> Tempus_Fugit: it could be anything, could you give some context?
[06:36] <Tempus_Fugit> hmmmm ok will check into that ty
[06:36] <Gnea> tanath: have you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[06:37] <Gnea> tanath: nah, bios has nothing to do with it - there's an onboard audio, but it's crap, so I disabled it there - that's why I got this usb one
[06:37] <musikgoat|main> DOSchild: i believe virtualbox is in multiverse
[06:37] <musikgoat|main> !file virtualbox
[06:37] <carpediem> Tempus_Fugit: lots of embedded databases use the .db extension, so you may need to tell us what this db file is.
[06:37] <tanath> Gnea, was just about to ask if you disabled on-board
[06:37] <musikgoat|main> !info virtualbox
[06:37] <gletob> Gnea, Torrentflux is absolutely perfect! and it was very easy to set up thank you!!
[06:37] <Dulak> the virtualbox in the normal repos is crappy
[06:37] <gletob> And thanks to the others that mad suggestions!
[06:37] <Dulak> If you want to use usb or 3d acceleration, download the deb or use the repo vbox provides
[06:37] <gletob> *made
[06:37] <MrPiracy> Neroon: yes, i think it was fusion-icon causing it
[06:38] <carpediem> Dulak: well, it's far from crappy, it just lacks a few features that Sun doesn't open-source
[06:38] <MrPiracy> Neroon: it booted up fine no probs this time
[06:38] <Neroon> MrPiracy: So you took it out?
[06:38] <Tempus_Fugit> ok well right now im on my tmobile G1 in an app ported into firc and we have an app that backs up sms msgs  and i was trying to read them with my laptop connected to my phone and the backup file is .db
[06:38] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Btw, did you just reboot?
[06:38] <tanath> Gnea, yeah, i've seen that
[06:38] <Dulak> carpediem: in comparison it's crappy, it's not actually crappy I agree
[06:38] <MrPiracy> yes, i took both compiz and fusion-icon ... i had put conpoiz just to test
[06:38] <Guest16752> i have a pink square in the top left hand side of the screen saying unknow how do i remove it
[06:38] <MrPiracy> Neroon: yes, i just reboot
[06:38] <genan> reboot
[06:38] <Neroon> MrPiracy: I see. But no need to reboot, just restart x
[06:39] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i never know how to do it
[06:39] <DOSchild> musikgoat|main, i found it in synaptic, it seems the quicksearch index isn't being updated
[06:39] <MrPiracy> Neroon: hehe
[06:39] <jedi06> does anyone know of a way to watch flash player at 2x
[06:39] <Neroon> MrPiracy: I do it by ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:39] <carpediem> Tempus_Fugit: oh, yeah, that might be JavaDB...not sure what android uses
[06:39] <Neroon> MrPiracy: kills x instantly and it starts new
[06:39] <musikgoat|main> DOSchild: interesting
[06:40] <DOSchild> musikgoat|main, I had to scroll down to the v's and I found it, but searching for it won't find it, only finds the older versions
[06:40] <carpediem> Tempus_Fugit: hmm, nope, they use Sqlite according to the docs.
[06:40] <Tempus_Fugit> ok well anyone who wants to play with android programming can get the sdk and adb for free
[06:40] <tanath> Gnea, hm, looks like i missed something. fglrx was listed in /etc/modules
[06:40] <Neroon> MrPiracy: still here?
[06:40] <MrPiracy> Neroon: it doesnt work for me, tried many times
[06:41] <MrPiracy> Neroon: when i was trying to get my video card to work
[06:41] <Neroon> MrPiracy: hm, using kde here, not gnome. Just a sec
[06:41] <MrPiracy> Neroon: also ctrl+alt+f4
[06:41] <painted> hey
[06:41] <painted> can you disable UAC in ubuntu?
[06:41] <Tempus_Fugit> im also new to linux and ubuntu in general i just did a dual boot on my laptop so i can learn linux and programming
[06:41] <h4xOr> Hi, the touch pad on my laptop running 9.04 is very sensitive. How can i decrease its sensitivity
[06:42] <Tempus_Fugit> i love the new 9.04
[06:42] <MrPiracy> painted: login as root, but for that u have to enable it
[06:42] <painted> how do you log in as root
[06:42] <Gnea> tanath: aah
[06:42] <Gnea> tanath: I think I'm gonna hang this up for tonight and try again later
[06:42] <Tempus_Fugit> open a terminal
[06:43] <Tempus_Fugit> and type su
[06:43] <Neroon> MrPiracy: sudo apt-get install dontzap
[06:43] <Tempus_Fugit> then the pw
[06:43] <neda> hi, I want to have same keyboard shortcuts as gnome's in kde.  is there any solution?
[06:43] <tanath> Gnea, ok. good luck. thanks
[06:43] <iwobbles> Hi I have a usb hard drive which some of my ubuntu machines recognise but others dont where should I be looking to fix this ?
[06:44] <picochu> seems like wubi doesnt run on windows 7 :(
[06:44] <Gnea> tanath: there's a ton of discussion here that I need to sift through: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870001
[06:44] <MrPiracy> painted: system / administration / login window / security ... check enable admin login
[06:44] <Neroon> MrPiracy: got it?
[06:44] <genan> you had played windows7?
[06:44] <tanath> Gnea, http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=56719 similar issue to yours
[06:44] <MrPiracy> Neroon: yes, what's that?
[06:44] <picochu> genan: yeap on my spare
[06:45] <sage__> THIS IS LINUX NOT WINDOWS
[06:45] <Neroon> MrPiracy: I brings back the ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:45] <genan> yeah.ubuntu not windows
[06:45] <Neroon> MrPiracy: to jaunty
[06:45] <tanath> Gnea, good luck
[06:45] <MrPiracy> Neroon: thx again, installing it now
[06:45] <picochu> sage__: take a chill pill but wubi is suppose to run linux on windows part
[06:45] <Tempus_Fugit> you mean wind hoes???
[06:45] <sage__> lol
[06:46] <picochu> sheesh bunch of 12 yrs old
[06:46] <Tempus_Fugit> im not great with linux but im learning
[06:46] <neda> hi, I want to have same keyboard shortcuts as gnome's in kde.  is there any solution?
[06:46] <Sinatra> on windows i am used to WinAMP, what is Linux answer to it?
[06:46] <Neroon> Sinatra: Lots of options. I got used to Amarok
[06:47] <genan> what is winamp?a kind of vpc?
[06:47] <MrPiracy> Neroon: do u know how to unblock root password? ... or set it?
[06:47]  * Tempus_Fugit is hiding in the corner if someone wants to talk
[06:47] <sage__> movie player is good
[06:47] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i remember there's a command line for that
[06:47] <Neroon> MrPiracy: There is no root account in ubuntu
[06:47] <gabkdlly_> neda: I am pretty sure there is, you might ask in #kubuntu
[06:47] <Gnea> tanath: thanks, you too
[06:47] <mirsal> hello
[06:47] <MrPiracy> Neroon: yes, there is, but u have to unblock it
[06:48] <picochu> MrPiracy: you can get root with sudo bash
[06:48] <picochu> Neroon:  just sudo bash
[06:48] <neda> thx gabkdlly_ , good advice!
[06:48] <Dulak> no, use sudo -i
[06:48] <tanath> Gnea, np
[06:48] <MrPiracy> Neroon: how do i use the ctrl-alt-backspace? right here or do i have to log off first?
[06:48] <Tempus_Fugit> this is linux there is a way to do everything...just gotta have the know how and patience to do it
[06:48] <mb_again_> sudo bash; then passwd root
[06:48] <Neroon> MrPiracy: if you use it now, it'll kill all x-applications and restart x
[06:49] <Dulak> !root | mb_again_
[06:49] <tehbaut> what does 8.10 have over 8.04?
[06:49] <iwobbles> does ubuntu support HP printers ? I want to ditch samba and the win server and print direct using ubuntu ,,its a HP5si bulk printer
[06:49] <Neroon> picochu: he wants to change the root password, not a root shell
[06:49] <sage__> 9.04
[06:49] <genan> driver
[06:49] <mirsal> once correctly set-up, ubuntu works really well on a tablet PC
[06:49] <Dulak> mb_again_: use sudo -i to get a root shell, do not advise people to set a root password
[06:50] <picochu> Neroon: then just passwd then you have the damn shell
[06:50] <Erekose> I`m trying to install gnomedesktopwal   but I don`t seem to have the correct command for it
[06:50] <tehbaut> sage__, was that directed towards me? :P
[06:50] <jedi06> does anyone know of a way to watch adobe flash player at 2x
[06:50] <sage__> lol
[06:50] <MrPiracy> Neroon: not really change ... in the previous versions there was a command to set the root password because it comes up blank
[06:50] <Neroon> picochu: God, I didnt ask for it. It was MrPiracy question.
[06:50] <vlad__> hey guys i got a sound issue\
[06:50] <sage__> tehbaut,  I thought u were thinking of the newer one
[06:51] <tehbaut> I installed 9.04 this morning, but didn't feel like messing with all the drivers... seems it's less compatible with my machine otb, than the 8.xx series
[06:51] <Neroon>  !root | MrPiracy
[06:51] <MrPiracy> Neroon: so u can login as root .... yes i think it was what picochu said
[06:51] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Of course, you can. But there is no root password as such
[06:51] <vlad__> pretty sure i got the drivers installed but no sound
[06:52] <tehbaut> but it seems as though 8.04 is missing some of the top-right corner details than 8.10 had
[06:52] <Dulak> !rules > mb_again_
[06:52] <vlad__> and commands i can use to enable it or something>?
[06:52] <MrPiracy> Neroon: try this .... sudo passwd root
[06:52] <MrPiracy> Neroon: ;)
[06:53] <Erekose> trying to install a tar.gz that is unzipped.. seems like I don`t have the right command
[06:53] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Thanks, but no thanks ;-)
[06:53] <ftab> MrPiracy: that command is to change the root password being a sudoer
[06:53] <Dulak> MrPiracy: don't advise people to set a root password, use sudo -i to get a root shell if you have to have one
[06:53] <ftab> :-)
[06:53] <vlad__> ./
[06:53] <ftab> Dulak: some times you might need that for security
[06:54] <MrPiracy> ftab: that will also let you login as root
[06:54] <Dulak> ftab: what security is better without an audit trail?  I haven't had root enabled on a machine in 10 years now, and I can't think of any good reason to start.
[06:54] <ftab> MrPiracy: yes but passwd command is specific for changing the paddword
[06:54] <vlad__> thanks for the sudo -i saves time
[06:54] <MrPiracy> Dulak: there was a guy here asking how to disable "uac", that's why i came up with this ... i think these "type password" boxes all the time are annoying
[06:55] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Then you can still start a root shell
[06:55] <ftab> Dulak, you are right but if you are a sudoer then you are root, sudoer user id points to that of the root uid
[06:55] <Dulak> MrPiracy: you can change the timeout on the password from sudo so it only prompts you every so often after the initial one
[06:55] <MrPiracy> ftab: type that command, enable "allow admin login" in system / administration / login window / security
[06:55] <Trombone> o.o
[06:55] <tehbaut> how do I get to the partition manager?
[06:55] <MrPiracy> ftab: then type root as username and the password u just set
[06:55] <iwobbles> I have  an IBM laptop on which I can see traffic at the transport layer but I cannot get http access at the application layer any ideas ?
[06:55] <MrPiracy> ftab: voilá
[06:56] <Dulak> ftab: sudo gives and audit trail, allowing a direct root login does not
[06:56] <DigitalKiwi> i like when people try to add themself to a group with sudo and end up deleting themself from wheel
[06:56] <Dulak> ftab: you are making things less secure by enabling root, not more secure
[06:56] <DigitalKiwi> it is good times
[06:56] <hdon> hi all. what package will give me man pages for select()?
[06:56] <Neroon> MrPiracy: And why would anybody need a security hole (root account) in Ubuntu?
[06:56] <ftab> tehbaut: gparted might help you
[06:56] <picochu> Neroon:  root isn't a security hole. not if you manage it properly
[06:57] <tehbaut> ftab, what was run during the install then?
[06:57] <tehbaut> isn't that included by default?
[06:57] <nutty> heya, was wondering if there are any acer aspire one users here, I can't seem to get my webcam working
[06:57]  * hdon snickers
[06:57] <Dulak> Wow, we got a lot of genius security people in here tonight.
[06:57] <Trombone> DCC C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[06:57] <ftab> Dulak, I agree :-) and I would also recommend to use sudoer, but again sudeor is root when you issue sudo
[06:57] <MrPiracy> picochu, Neroon, Dulak, ftab: why are u guys so scared about this root account in the first place?
[06:57] <DigitalKiwi> root passwords are alays short, like admin, nimda, god, iamgod, you know, therefor security risk
[06:58] <Neroon> picochu: There is just no need for a root account. Everything can be done without it. And installing one just makes it easier breaking into
[06:58] <Dulak> ftab: and sudo logs every command run, so you can see exactly who just messed up your box
[06:58] <MrPiracy> picochu, Neroon, Dulak, ftab: what hole exactly does it open?
[06:58] <picochu> MrPiracy:  not me
[06:58] <ftab> MrPiracy, we are not scared, but just from security point of view there is an alternate
[06:58] <Dulak> ftab: allowing a direct root login, no log.  Who just typed that command???  I don't know, cuz I enabled root.
[06:58] <picochu> Neroon: obviously you have never tried install Oracle 11 on a linux box
[06:58] <MrPiracy> ftab: define "security point" ... what happens if root password is set?
[06:58] <Trombone> why do u want to enable root anyways? what are the benefits?
[06:58] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Without one, an attacker at least doesnt know which account to use
[06:58] <ftab> Dualk, we agree but it's MrPiracy who don't :-)
[06:59] <Dulak> picochu: you can sudo -i to get the root shell and install oracle just fine
[06:59] <MrPiracy> picochu: yessssssssssss! now i remember why i needed that ... ORACLE 11
[06:59] <tehbaut> so why is 8.04 missing that top-right-corner "tray"?
[06:59] <ftab> Dualk, I was just differenciating the sudoers and the root
[06:59] <vph> Does anyone know why my Ubuntu boot-disk will loadup the install prompt but it has an I/O error "Error reading boot CD" when I try to install it? I guess it is because the CDRom is not identified but would that be the only reason? any help would be appreciated :)
[06:59] <ftab> tehbaut: did you tried gparted?
[07:00] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: ,because it's a resonably new thing, also  Ubuntu's version isn't even part of upstream Gnome,   which is also why shut down and logout get removed from the system menu :(,  really it's only meant to be a user switcher
[07:00] <tehbaut> ftab, it's not in the list of apps (or else I'm blind, or it requires a terminal window, or an install)
[07:00] <Trombone> vph: what happens if you choose to scan the disc for errors instead of install?
[07:00] <MrPiracy> Neroon: account to use where??? if this attacker can get to my root account, why cant he get to my user account?
[07:00] <ftab> :-)
[07:00] <picochu> there's nothing wrong with root if you know what you are doing.... sudo is just as risky as su
[07:00] <genan> nothing will happen
[07:00] <ftab> tehbaut which version are you using?
[07:00] <vph> Trombone: Error reading boot CD.
[07:00] <tehbaut> sebsebseb, so the tray is part of 8.10 but not 8.04?
[07:00] <ftab> tehbaut try sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:01] <tehbaut> ftab, I'm running 8.04 right now
[07:01] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: did you mean the log out and shutdown thing?
[07:01] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: if you mean the applicaitons tray,  there should be something
[07:01] <Trombone> vph: maybe the disc is damaged and you need a new one? or somethings wrong with your hardware
[07:01] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Every attacker tries to get to the root account. But how would he know, which, if any account on a pc might get root rights
[07:01] <MrPiracy> picochu: even if u DONT know what ur doing. There are several newbies using ubuntu who has no clue of where to click or what to install
[07:01] <ftab> and also when you enable the User switcher menu in Jaunty it removes the shut down from the menu
[07:01] <tehbaut> sebsebseb, uh all I can remember is that it had a network status and quick-connect for wifi
[07:01] <ftab> tehbaut then run sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:01] <MrPiracy> Neroon: how will the attacker know i am running linux? i have 4 different OS'es here
[07:01] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: ok  we weren't talking about  the same thing,   the only thing we were talking about that was the same, is top right  corner of  the panel
[07:01] <tehbaut> ftab, is it available by default it 8.10?
[07:02] <MrPiracy> Neroon: anti-virus AND firewall
[07:02] <ftab> tehbaut which thing?
[07:02] <DigitalKiwi> irc clients often use the user name as...username
[07:02] <vph> Trombone: I've made 3 coasters so far... do you think if I swapped a cdrom with a different computer it would solve the problem? because I have a dvdrom that could be switched easily.
[07:02] <tehbaut> sebsebseb, so I'm looking for the "system tray" ...is that right?
[07:02] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: yep, and not the other thing,  which I hope is missing still in 8.04 :)
[07:02] <tehbaut> ftab, a partition manager included by default in 8.10 ...is that true?
[07:02] <ftab> tehbatu system tray in Ubuntu is called Notification Icons
[07:02] <picochu> MrPiracy: remote root login is something i won't recommend
[07:02] <DigitalKiwi> so someone comes to irc there's a good chance I know their user account ;D
[07:02] <ftab> hmm not sure.
[07:02] <vph> Trombone: and with the three coasters they all did the same thing.
[07:03] <Erekose> vph:  what burn speed did you burn them at
[07:03] <Neroon> MrPiracy: If it only where that easy to stop an intruder
[07:03] <MrPiracy> picochu: whoaa, that's something different
[07:03] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: you should be able to add stuff to the panel
[07:03] <ftab> sudo apt-get install will prompt if that is already there tehbaut
[07:03] <Trombone> vph: its worth a try. if you get an error when using a brand new disk that you made yourself just a minute ago, u almost definitely have a hardware error somewhere
[07:03] <tehbaut> sebsebseb, so the notification icons were added with 8.10?
[07:03] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: which notification icons?
[07:03] <Dulak> MrPiracy: you are speaking from obvious years of experience running enterprise servers in production.
[07:03] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: 8.10 is a good release
[07:03] <tehbaut> sebsebseb, , I'm not seeing any notification area at all in 8.04
[07:04] <MrPiracy> picochu, Neroon, Dulak, ftab: besides, what would an attacker do with root account that he can't with my user account (which happens to be admin)?
[07:04] <Trombone> MrPiracy: do u have a particular reason for using a root account? its actually one less command if you just use sudo
[07:04] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: sadly 8.10 isn't LTS,  if you run the  panel resting command that can solve stuff
[07:04] <tehbaut> I had 8.10 before, but had to drop it for a while
[07:04] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: why?
[07:04] <MrPiracy> Dulak: this is a home computer, not an enterprise
[07:04] <Dulak> MrPiracy: root is a known attack vector, your username is not
[07:04] <tehbaut> hard drive changes, I wasn't using ubuntu for a while
[07:05] <sebsebseb> !panels |  tehbaut
[07:05] <MrPiracy> Dulak: alright, alright, u win
[07:05] <Dulak> MrPiracy: but you're advocating anyone to use your crappy security policy by telling people to enable root on their machine, you are not qualified to do that.  You can do it for YOURSELF, but don't spread your ignorance to others.
[07:05] <tanath> my bottom gnome-panel isn't showing. and if i run 'gnome-panel --replace' then certain icons don't show in notification area anymore :-/
[07:05] <Trombone> MrPiracy: bottom line, there are thousands of developers out there who made the root account innactive by default, and at least a few of them were smarter than you
[07:05] <ftab> MrPiacy, as a general rule of thumb, there are some kernel level calls which root can perform, I mean root has got the access for each and every thing from deleting the files to changing the config without any further authentication
[07:05] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: run the command the bot gave, that should help
[07:05] <ftab> that's why root is always discouraged
[07:05] <Neroon> MrPiracy: He needs to find an account that even may get root rights. Since not every account should be able to. But isnt it easier, when I know there is a root account i can concentrate on, instead of having to find the names of the other account and trie those?
[07:05] <sebsebseb> tanath: uh  see abovee
[07:05] <tehbaut> ftab, so you are saying that gparted is used during installation, but after that it's not included in the standard utilities/apps by default?
[07:06] <MenZa> tehbaut→ Correct.
[07:06] <sebsebseb> !panels |   tanath
[07:06] <ftab> tehbaut, try gparted in terminal
[07:06] <tehbaut> MenZa, correct re: gparted?
[07:06] <tanath> sebsebseb, which defaults are those? i'm not sure i want to
[07:06] <ftab> Menza that's not correct
[07:06] <picochu> Trombone:  just disable remote root
[07:06] <sebsebseb> tanath: it will reset your panels back to default
[07:06] <tanath> sebsebseb, i have a number of icons & applets i don't want to replace
[07:06] <MenZa> tehbaut→ Yes. A simple sudo apt-get install gparted should install it.
[07:06] <tehbaut> ok
[07:07] <sebsebseb> tanath: you can add the bottom panel back anyway
[07:07] <MrPiracy> Dulak, Trombone: easy fellows, i agree the root account unset is more secure. i just dont see the whole point of having it kept that way in a HOME environment when enabling it would be much less annoying and easier
[07:07] <tanath> sebsebseb, i'm not willing to do that without knowing what it'll do. it would be tedious to redo my customizations
[07:07] <DigitalKiwi> hmm, can you create a user called root with no privs?
[07:07] <Neroon> MrPiracy: How do you think, that makes it easier?
[07:07] <Erekose> trying to install an unzipped tar file but don`t seem to have the right comand
[07:07] <sebsebseb> tanath: it will undone your customizations
[07:08] <tanath> sebsebseb, then that's not something i want to do
[07:08] <tehbaut> off topic: how do I force a ntfs part to mount if the ntfs part is marked to be in use (windows didn't shutdown correctly)
[07:08] <MrPiracy> Neroon: for those who just want to try ubuntu, yes ... no need to keep typing the same password over and over again
[07:08] <musikgoat|main> Erekose: is the file extension simply .tar or .tar.gz or .tgz ?
[07:08] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: that's not off topic
[07:08] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: there's some sort of command, but you can also boot up Windows again and shut it down properly
[07:08] <aamir> ((((((( hello Room ))))))
[07:08] <tehbaut> sebsebseb, meant off topic from my latest topics :P
[07:08] <iwobbles> does ubuntu support usb drives ? Ive found the mounting a bit troublesome
[07:08] <Restinpeace> hello
[07:08] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i know you will have a heart attach but turning off UAC is the first thing i do when i install windows at home
[07:08] <Neroon> MrPiracy: So you want to start x and being online as root?
[07:08] <mudsplatter> shalom
[07:08] <Restinpeace> i just installed ubuntu yesterday
[07:08] <tanath> sebsebseb, and i already said i didn't want to run 'gnome-panel --replace' which reloads it, and you're telling me to kill it? >.<
[07:09] <MrPiracy> Neroon: in a home testing environment yes, why not?
[07:09] <picochu> guys just remember active root is a matter of choice.. AIX, Solaris, Debian, RH, IRIX, they all have root accounts
[07:09] <Restinpeace> can anyone tell me how do i install C++ ?
[07:09] <tehbaut> sebsebseb, yes I just need to move a couple files to that part
[07:09] <sebsebseb> tanath: you  can  add a panel back without running a command
[07:09] <MrPiracy> picochu: even ubuntu does
[07:09] <tehbaut> before I reboot windows, ideally
[07:09] <picochu> MrPiracy: not enabled by default
[07:09] <MenZa> Restinpeace→ What do you mean? C++ is a programming language.
[07:09] <MrPiracy> picochu: but it DOES have one ;)
[07:09] <Erekose> musikgoat|main: its .tar.gz
[07:10] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Because one false click might kill everything.
[07:10] <DigitalKiwi> I'm guessing he wants to install gcc
[07:10] <tehbaut> MenZa, what irc app are you using? j/w
[07:10] <Restinpeace> MenZa: yes i agree. I mean how do i install the app?
[07:10] <musikgoat|main> Erekose: tar xzvf file.tar.gz
[07:10] <MenZa> What app, Restinpeace?
[07:10] <tanath> sebsebseb, if i reload gnome-panel, there's an icon or two that'll no longer show in the notification area. if i reset panels to default, i may lose all the icons i've added to the top panel, and which applets i've added
[07:10] <MenZa> Restinpeace→ You mean a C++ compiler? An editor? An IDE?
[07:10] <Restinpeace> MenZa:  anjuta? if i'm not mistaken.
[07:10] <Neroon> MrPiracy: And where do you think the whining would start first, after they lost all their data?
[07:10] <Restinpeace> MenZa:  yes
[07:10] <sebsebseb> tanath: yes
[07:10] <EnragedOstrich> Can someone help me fix my gamepad? It's going all strange when I try to use VGA and ePSXe
[07:10] <picochu> Neroon: login into X with root is a very very bad idea
[07:10] <tanath> sebsebseb, i'd rather reload than lose my customizations
[07:10] <Restinpeace> MenZa:  sorry, that's what i mean actually.
[07:11] <sebsebseb> tanath: you have said this stuff about three times now
[07:11] <sebsebseb> tanath: or three tiems
[07:11] <Erekose> musikgoat|main:  I have it unzipped but its not installing right
[07:11] <david_> hi
[07:11] <EnragedOstrich> ive only had linex 4 a day
[07:11] <david_> I'm new here.
[07:11] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i've lost all my data quite a few times this week already ... without setting my root account ;)
[07:11] <Neroon> picochu: Please, stop telling me that. I didnt ask for it
[07:11] <sebsebseb> !new |  david_
[07:11] <sebsebseb> !welcome |  david_
[07:11] <iwobbles> perhaps i should be going back to windows but I dont like MS much
[07:11] <tanath> sebsebseb, yet you still want me to anyway? >.<
[07:11] <ftab> ubottu, it's a bot :-)
[07:11] <musikgoat|main> Erekose: what are you trying to install?
[07:12] <sebsebseb> tanath: no
[07:12] <david_> thank you.
[07:12] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Well everything is possible, but why invite every redneck to f... with your system?
[07:12] <Dulak> MrPiracy: having the default policy be more secure is never a bad thing.  THe password thing as I said can be tuned in sudoers so you don't have to type that root password so much when you use sudo, I tune mine to 20 minutes and very rarely end up having to type it multiple times in a single session.
[07:12] <Erekose> its a desktop wallpaper changer musikgoat|main
[07:12] <sebsebseb> david_: np
[07:12] <Restinpeace> MenZa:  are you there?
[07:12] <EnragedOstrich> my game pad config is messed up when i use my VBA i need help
[07:13] <musikgoat|main> Erekose: look for a README in the contents, usually there is install instructions there
[07:13] <Dulak> picochu: any unix machine I admin, regardless of which flavor, first thing I do is install/configure sudo, and disable root.  Many of the guys I work with do this as well.
[07:13] <MrPiracy> Dulak: my personal choice would be to type my password only ONCE when i log in ... and that's it ... after that, my computer should know it's me sitting here
[07:14] <Tracker> I'm David,
[07:14] <tanath> Gnea, well, i removed a lot of old fglrx left-overs, and graphics are much improved. :)
[07:14] <Neroon> MrPiracy: And you need root rights every now and then?
[07:14] <picochu> Dulak: i am glad that you do. But the phrase "most of the guys i work with" doesn't hold much water
[07:14] <EnragedOstrich> Can any 1 help me with my VBA controller config it all weird and i dont know what wrong
[07:14] <Erekose> with it unzipped it has two files... a makefile and one called change_wallpaper.c musikgoat|main
[07:14] <Neroon> MrPiracy: After my system is set up, I might need root rights once a week maybe, if at all
[07:15] <MrPiracy> Neroon: well, now yes ... i am installing everything and i am prompted to type it all the goddam time
[07:15] <joshua__> Hello, I am wondering when I try and Network my printer that is on an XP Machine, over a Wifi connection, the printer window crashes when I try and browse my Computer it found my network, and list's my computers but It crashes when I open My Computer
[07:15] <Neroon> MrPiracy: No, you just could start a root shell for example
[07:15] <musikgoat|main> Erekose: ahh, then "make&&sudo make install" should work
[07:15] <Dulak> picochu: ok let me rephrase that, the guys I work with that know what they are actually doing do it as well.    And it's always fun times when those dumbasses go to the bathroom and leave a root shell logged in.
[07:15] <MrPiracy> Neroon: and it was very annoying a few years ago when i started using linux
[07:15] <andry> help !!!  avg install in unbuntu remix work but application avg can be launch ?
[07:15] <Threetimes> Hi, I have a dual-monitor setup. Once I'm logged in, everything works fine. When usplash shows the loading bar, my smaller monitor says "Out of range".
[07:16] <EnragedOstrich> I NEED HELP WITH VBA CONTROLLER CON FIG
[07:16] <musikgoat|main> Erekose: you may need build-essential if this is the first compiling you've done
[07:16] <Tracker> Somebody tell me what is the subject of this room?
[07:16] <MrPiracy> Neroon: ok ok ok ok, you guys win
[07:16] <DigitalKiwi> "oh i think i'll go for a cup of water" smartass coworker/friend walks by, notices you have a console open "say goodbye to /" =D
[07:16] <sebsebseb> andry: you don't need anti virus in Linux at this time,  and  AVG scans for Windows virsues and that's about it,  and those viruses won't infect your Ubuntu install
[07:16] <sebsebseb> !virus |  andry
[07:16] <joshua__> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME SHARE A PRINTER FROM AN XP MACHINE TO MY UBUNTU 9.4 LAPTOP
[07:16] <picochu> Dulak: whatever, i never leave my desk with a root shell
[07:16] <MrPiracy> Neroon: but i still think is funny the way u guys freak out about this root acount
[07:16] <sebsebseb> !caps |  joshua__
[07:16] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Having the opponent giving up is no fun ;-)
[07:16] <sebsebseb> !cups |  joshua_
[07:16] <joshua__> sorry
[07:16] <Tracker> I understand nothing.
[07:16] <joshua__> but It can not find my PC
[07:16] <Dulak> picochu: good for you, you're perfect, never make mistakes, should I call you lord?
[07:17] <sebsebseb> Tracker: getting help for Ubuntu
[07:17] <Neroon> MrPiracy: I guess it's just because we all saw what happened so very often in windows
[07:17] <joshua__> It can not find my PC
[07:17] <picochu> Dulak: it's called common sense. I guess you are those who forgot to zip up after peeing
[07:17] <Erekose> musikgoat|main:  it shows a few errors
[07:17] <Tracker> oh
[07:17] <Tracker> ok
[07:17] <musikgoat|main> !build-essential | Erekose
[07:17] <Tracker> thank you.
[07:17] <EnragedOstrich> opps caps
[07:17] <sebsebseb> np
[07:17] <MrPiracy> Neroon: well, it's because i agree with you .... when u are talking to the general public, or a company with important data, yes, it's a lot more sucure ... but what about random users just trying the OS? it's nothing but annoying
[07:17] <Dulak> picochu: so because I want root locked, I lack common sense.
[07:17] <Neroon> MrPiracy:  Hell, I even have a link on my desktop to start my filemanager as root
[07:17] <tanath> hrm, my scroll wheel stopped working
[07:17] <musikgoat|main> !paste | Erekose
[07:18] <Dulak> picochu: but you, who open root up cuz yer lazy, or leave it open, you have common sense.
[07:18] <picochu> you're perfect, never make mistakes that's what you said
[07:18] <Tracker> I thought I was here to meet new people.
[07:18] <Dulak> picochu: it's ok, admins like you let me double my rate when I have to clean up after you.
[07:18] <EnragedOstrich> Who wants to help me brave the new world of Ubuntu? Help me fix my 360 controller
[07:18] <Neroon> MrPiracy: As the random user you dont even need it (that often). So I'd say even less need to have a root account
[07:18] <Dulak> picochu: just don't advocate it in this channel, it's against the rules and stupid.
[07:18] <MrPiracy> Neroon: hahah, got my point? so many times i tried to paste a file in a place i needed a root account, but all it said was NO
[07:18] <joshua__> Could I have some help i have a printer connect to my XP Machine and I am trying to share it over Wifi to my Ubuntu 9.4 laptop
[07:18] <picochu> please tell me where in the rules to say it is okay to use root
[07:18] <Neroon> MrPiracy: But how often do you need that now?
[07:19] <tehbaut> also, how do I add my osx partition to grub?
[07:19] <Dulak> !rules > picochu
[07:19] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Once a day the most?
[07:19] <picochu> Dulak: didn't see it in the rules
[07:19] <Threetimes> Hi, I have a dual-monitor setup. Once I'm logged in, everything works fine. When usplash shows the loading bar, my smaller monitor says "Out of range".
[07:20] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i am not done yet, i'll still need it ... and btw, i am NOT setting root password, it just came to my mind whey they asked how to disable UAC ... if someone asks that u suppose he/she will be willing to take the risks
[07:20] <Neroon> MrPiracy: And the allday download folder or such are set up so I can read/write in them
[07:20] <milo__> hi. Please is there any aircrack-ng forum on IRC?
[07:20] <Neroon> MrPiracy: No, most of those that ask the question want it the easy way, they dont even think about security
[07:21] <MrPiracy> Neroon: ohhhh, now we agree ;)
[07:21] <Neroon> MrPiracy: And exactly these guys would be the first to damnate Linux for being unsecure, once they got f....
[07:21] <Neroon> MrPiracy: On the download folder?
[07:22] <MrPiracy> Neroon: nope, about the "they dont even think about security"
[07:22] <joshua__> could i get some help with printer sharing
[07:22] <joshua__> xp to ubuntu over wifi
[07:22] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Yes, but that doesnt mean they wouldnt care, if they knew what could happen
[07:22] <lostxion> hello room, i was wondering if there is anything equivalent to a disk derangement and a clean C drive for the ubuntu OS and how i would go about doing this to my pc
[07:22] <Erekose> did that paste come thru musikgoat|main
[07:22] <Neroon> MrPiracy: They just need to be told and explained, why it is the way it is
[07:23] <MrPiracy> Neroon: anything can happen, always
[07:23] <musikgoat|main> Erekose: you have to paste the URL
[07:23] <Erekose> http://paste.ubuntu.com/221689/
[07:23] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Sure, but you dont jump out of your window in the 2nd floor, just because it's the fastest way down
[07:23] <Kangarooo> hello can anyone tell me witch gui of rsync could help me move all files and skip witch are already in destination but check if size differs then overwrite and delete on source after each file execution?
[07:24] <MrPiracy> Neroon: that's not the same game, is it?
[07:24] <StraightDave> hello, what does this output mean, and how can i fix it ? http://pastebin.me/683f745cb697e75b4594e191b5befb61
[07:24] <musikgoat|main> Erekose: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:24] <bfig_> dpkg has been corrupted when updating, i had a segfault error. what do i need to do to rollback or fix it?
[07:24] <nomad77> take it to off-topic people are trying to get help not listen to a debate on root vs. sudo
[07:24] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Isnt it? It's fast, it works (even if only once) and I dont have to run all the way, too
[07:25] <tanath> my scroll wheel has suddenly stopped working (even after reboot). help?
[07:25] <Erekose> musikgoat|main:  thats installing now
[07:25] <musikgoat|main> Erekose: then try again
[07:25] <MrPiracy> Neroon: what are the chances a hacker will find ur IP, be an expert in linux and interested in ur machine to the point he'll bother to attack you?
[07:25] <lostxion> theres a debate??? lol sorry for interrupting
[07:25] <Erekose> ok musikgoat|main ty
[07:25] <picochu> guys take it else where  this is getting to be boring
[07:26] <yaris123456789> hi can someone see what this means ? http://pastebin.me/683f745cb697e75b4594e191b5befb61
[07:26] <MrPiracy> picochu: agreed
[07:26] <vlad__> hey guys i had sound working with backtrack3 and on 4 it stopped what could be the problem?
[07:26] <Dulak> MrPiracy: again, you're saying that you being lazy trumps any chance someone might exploit that, and that should be a default policy because you don't want to tune a config file and use sudo -i
[07:26] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Ever read tests about fresh windows installs, online, and logged in with admin account? Takes at most about 10 mins, til you get scanned
[07:26] <Y-Town> how can i check my file system without doing it during the boot "force check"
[07:26] <picochu> MrPiracy: for that matter i would like to say vim rules and emacs sux :P
[07:26] <richardcavell> Y-Town: fsck
[07:26] <KB1JWQ> Is the "official" Ubuntu method of restarting a service to use /etc/init.d/$servicename?
[07:26] <DigitalKiwi> picochu++
[07:26] <Daremonai> What's the best ftp server to run secure ftp on? I'm currently using proftpd, but I want to run ftp over ssl.
[07:27] <richardcavell> KB1JWQ: Yes, but why the $ sign?
[07:27] <Neroon> MrPiracy: After about 20 mins you can be sure, there is a virus, trojan or the pc is  a zombie
[07:27] <Erekose> musikgoat|main:  I still get the same errors
[07:27] <picochu> Neroon:  zip it.
[07:27] <Y-Town> richardcavell: is it safe to run on a drive that is running?  I got a warning when I tried that
[07:27] <DigitalKiwi> bots in china attack ssh all the time :/
[07:27] <richardcavell> Y-Town: definitely not safe. Unmount it first
[07:27] <MrPiracy> Neroon: that sounds like a freddy krueger movie to me ... but maybe i'm too lucky
[07:27] <picochu> DigitalKiwi:  everywhere.
[07:28] <mb_again_> i like vsftpd no trouble with it for several years
[07:28] <picochu> MrPiracy: stop feeding them please
[07:28] <richardcavell> I can ssh to other computers but they cannot ssh to me. Other computers ping my port 22 but it doesn't respond. I can ssh to myself at local-host. What's the problem?
[07:28] <picochu> DigitalKiwi:  not just china. I got a feeling that most attacks from china are bots
[07:28] <Threetimes> Hi, I have a dual-monitor setup. Once I'm logged in, everything works fine. When usplash shows the loading bar, my smaller monitor says "Out of range".
[07:28] <efu> I've compiled and installed the Aurora gtk engine as instructed, and I see it in /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines. However no Aurora themes find the engine. Any tips on what could be wrong?
[07:29] <milo__> please im looking for aircrack forum... :(
[07:29] <DigitalKiwi> picochu: i had an ssh server i set up denyhosts on, it blocked like 30 IPs in an hour, then i changed the port >.>
[07:29] <mb_again_> richardcavell: check for firewall blocking port 22 and is the ssh service listening on port 22
[07:29] <picochu> richardcavell:  you firewall maybe?
[07:29] <Dulak> richardcavell: you have port 22 open on your firewall and redirected to the linux machine if the firewall is a router or something?
[07:29] <picochu> DigitalKiwi: yeap that is the easy way out.
[07:30] <tanath> help? my scroll wheel suddenly stopped working (even after reboot).
[07:30] <Dulak> DigitalKiwi: I just rate limit port 22 to 3 per minute, makes it take forever for them to try thier scan and login attempts
[07:30] <richardcavell> My ssh service is listening on port 22. I can log into username@localhost from terminal just fine. iptables returns nothing, and I have no other software firewall running. I have set up port forwarding from modem to my computer. Like I said, I can ssh out but they can't ssh in.
[07:30] <picochu> DigitalKiwi:  but those who portscan would prolly findout your ssh port anyway
[07:30] <Neroon> picochu: And of course, great master. If you tell me, to be quiet, I will be
[07:30] <DigitalKiwi> most bots don't figure it out
[07:30] <Daremonai> How can i know the fullpath of a program, like for example if i want to know where 'ls' is/
[07:31] <richardcavell> Daremonai: locate ls
[07:31] <Dulak> Daremonai: "which ls" in the terminal
[07:31] <mb_again_> richardcavell: open a term and ssh -l xxx localhost
[07:31] <picochu> DigitalKiwi:  yes but those persistent ones just give you a hell lot of logs. :P
[07:32] <richardcavell> Dulak: actually that's better
[07:32] <Daremonai> Dulak, thanks.. that's what i wanted.. man.. i tried who/where/what/why, i forgot which lol :P
[07:32]  * DigitalKiwi still has denyhosts for those buggers ;D
[07:32] <richardcavell> mb_again_: yes, I'm in
[07:32] <StraightDave> hi folks can someone help me with this? apt-get is complaining and i dont know how to fix it
[07:32] <StraightDave> dpkg: error processing python-setuptools (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:32] <StraightDave> Errors were encountered while processing: python-setuptools
[07:32] <fetusbubble> okay, so all the tags on my mp3's exploded, is there any way to retag them without doing it manually?
[07:33] <picochu> DigitalKiwi:  you are kind... i just drop their packets for a few hours
[07:33] <DigitalKiwi> hehe
[07:33] <Neroon> fetusbubble: you might try easy tag
[07:33] <DigitalKiwi> easytag is great
[07:33] <Threetimes> somehow my ssh server is "invisible" to hackers :D
[07:34] <gatton> anyone here ?
[07:34] <fetusbubble> Neroon: i have it, any guide on how to use it? ;p
[07:34] <nutty> is there a guide for persistent install on a usb stick of ubuntu
[07:34] <picochu> alternatively just use vpn and enable login only from pvt network
[07:34] <Threetimes> nutty: http://pendrivelinux.com has good guides
[07:34] <nutty> thanks
[07:35] <Neroon> fetusbubble: Sorry, havent used it for a long time. But afair it's quite easy
[07:36] <Threetimes> Hi, I have a dual-monitor setup. Once I'm logged in, everything works fine. When usplash shows the loading bar, my smaller monitor says "Out of range".
[07:36]  * Phoenix|Away is now away: "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don’t know the answer." - Douglas Adams
[07:36] <fetusbubble> all i've tried doing is right clicking on a file and selecting "CDDB Search", but it returns a bunch of irrelevant entries
[07:37] <Neroon> Threetimes: That's normal. If everything (can be a pain in the a..) is set up correctly your 2nd monitor will get a picture when x has started
[07:37] <andry> uninstall avg antivirus ububuntu remix?
[07:38] <Threetimes> Neroon: Can I somehow change the usplash resolution? Per monitor or both at once? X works fine.
[07:38] <irina> как пропатчить kde под freebsd
[07:38] <s1gmab3ta> does anyone know how to enable virtual memory in wine?
[07:39] <Threetimes> !rus | irina
[07:39] <Threetimes> !russian | irina
[07:39] <Neroon> Threetimes: you'd need to go down as far as 320x200 or 640x480, not quite sure
[07:39] <Neroon> Threetimes: But what for?
[07:39] <milo__> aircrack forum do u knw where it is?
[07:40] <Quarterstaff> Is installing ubuntu to a separate Part of a hard drive better than installing in Windows by wubi?
[07:40] <Threetimes> Neroon: my right monitor is only capable of 1024*768 or lower. It recieves thge 1440*900 signal for the left monitor.
[07:40] <Threetimes> Quarterstaff: a seperate partition is better, because you can remove windows without removing ubuntu.
[07:41] <infidel2s> does freshmeat.net not allow you to delete your projects? i'm not seeing an option
[07:41] <Neroon> Threetimes: Only can speak from my experience with tv out (1024x768 possible) but at boot only very low resolutions work, if i want to see the boot sequence
[07:41] <Threetimes> Quarterstaff: and you have a better (looking) bootloader, and a little bit better performance
[07:41] <Quarterstaff> Threetimes: Thank you for the information
[07:41] <Threetimes> Neroon: how (what config file) DO I CHANGE IT
[07:42] <Threetimes> sorry for the caps :o
[07:42] <Neroon> Threetimes: using grub, i guess?
[07:42] <Threetimes> usplash resolution in grub?
[07:42] <Quarterstaff> Threetimes: I will take your advice, and thank you again
[07:43] <Neroon> Threetimes: Yes/No?
[07:44] <Threetimes> Where do i change the usplash resolution?
[07:44] <Neroon> Threetimes: using grub, i guess?
[07:44] <forces> !startupmanager
[07:45] <MenZa> !find startup-manager | Threetimes
[07:45]  * Threetimes googles startupmanager
[07:45] <MenZa> Threetimes→ it's startup-manager in the repos I thi---or not. Search the repos for it. :)
[07:45] <eoeas> grub vga=773 or vga=701
[07:46] <Dulak> Threetimes: vga= in your kernel line in grub's menu.lst
[07:46] <Neroon> eoeas: Doesnt help, if he isnt using grub. And that was my question, but he refuses to answert
[07:46] <Threetimes> oh, now i understand your question. Yes, i'm using grub.
[07:46] <Neroon> ah
[07:46] <Threetimes> what do these numbers mean?
[07:46] <MenZa> !find startupmanager | Threetimes
[07:47] <MenZa> !info | startupmanager | Threetimes
[07:47] <MenZa> <___<
[07:47] <darkhamm> hey people, firefox 3.5 isn't available for ubuntu jaunty ?
[07:47] <MenZa> I'm not doing too well this morning.
[07:47] <MenZa> !info startupmanager | Threetimes
[07:47] <Neroon> Threetimes: Then just add vga=773 to your boot config
[07:47] <MenZa> Threetimes→ I suggest you check out the GUI for it instead, if you're unsure.
[07:47] <Dulak> Threetimes: 773 is 1024x768 w 256 colors
[07:47]  * Threetimes installs startupmanager
[07:47] <eoeas> Threetime: http://www.mepis.org/node/2992
[07:48] <eoeas> s
[07:48] <Threetimes> 256 colors isn't enough for usplash, isn't it?
[07:48] <bl4ck3y3> firefox in 9.04 is Shiretoko
[07:48] <bl4ck3y3> 3.5
[07:48] <Neroon> Threetimes: I'd start low with 256
[07:48] <eoeas> Neroon: true
[07:48] <bl4ck3y3> but... it is NOT stable...
[07:48] <Neroon> Threetimes: 32k colors would be 790
[07:49] <Dulak> Threetimes: 791 would be 64k colors
[07:49] <Threetimes> i want 792
[07:49] <Neroon> Threetimes: for booting 16 million colors?
[07:49] <Threetimes> why not?
[07:49] <Neroon> Threetimes: Must be a hell of a background ...
[07:49] <eoeas> Threetimes: 32 bit doesn't always work
[07:49] <Threetimes> it's the default usplash theme.
[07:49] <Neroon> Threetimes: Like running irc with 16 million colors
[07:49] <darkhamm> bl4ck3y3: i'm annoying o f use shiretoko, why isn't possible an official package?
[07:50] <Threetimes> I do everything with 16M colors
[07:50] <eoeas> Threetimes: just try and see :)
[07:50] <Neroon> Threetimes: Seems you dont boot with 16 million colors now ...
[07:51]  * Threetimes sees later
[07:51] <bl4ck3y3> yet Shiretoko is not stable
[07:51] <eoeas> Threetimes: you can press 'e' at grub menu, saves you editing menu.lst everytime
[07:51] <Neroon> eoeas: True
[07:52] <bl4ck3y3> and... default of jaunty is 3.0
[07:52] <Threetimes> eoeas: thanks for the tip, souns very time-saving
[07:52] <eoeas> :-D
[07:53] <bl4ck3y3> for 3.5, i recommend to use 9.10
[07:55] <Neroon> Threetimes: after you found the one working for you, you might want to add it to defoptions, so you dont need to add it manually after every kernel update
[07:55] <tawan> hi, i'm about to install wicd - any potential issues to be aware of? I need it for my wireless
[07:55] <andry> how to uninstall avg antivirus in ubuntu remix ?
[07:55] <tawan> hang on, wrong channel sorry
[07:55] <richardcavell> darkhamm: yes it i
[07:55] <richardcavell> darkhamm: yes it is
[07:56] <darkhamm> richardcavell: on ubuntu repos?
[07:56] <richardcavell> darkhamm: yep.
[07:57] <darkhamm> richardcavell: i can't look it...
[07:57] <richardcavell> darkhamm: firefox-3.5
[07:57] <neer> Hi guys
[07:57] <Threetimes> Neroon: devoptions? where is thet?
[07:57] <neer> my file browser in Ubuntu starts automatically when I start my computer......so does my skype
[07:58] <richardcavell> darkhamm: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-branding
[07:58] <test1235> i just installed nvidia 180 from the nvidia website, it looks asif my fonts are strange colours sometimes, I.E white has a slight rainbow color to it
[07:58] <darkhamm> richardcavell: multiverse, universe?
[07:58] <SandGorgon> is anybody using nvidia driver 180.55 in jaunty ?
[07:58] <Neroon> Threetimes: also in the menu.list from grub
[07:58] <richardcavell> darkhamm: universe
[07:58] <Threetimes> test1235: disable subpixel smoothing, use regular anti-aliasing
[07:59] <neer> anybody has any idea about it?
[07:59] <richardcavell> neer: what are you asking for?  How to disable them?
[08:00] <neer> richardcavell: yes
[08:00] <test1235> Threetimes, im guessing theres an easy cli for that?
[08:00] <richardcavell> darkhamm: got it yet?
[08:00] <darkhamm> richardcavell: i can't look...
[08:00] <Threetimes> test1235: go to system>preferences>theme>fonts
[08:00] <richardcavell> darkhamm: do you mean to say you can't see it?
[08:01] <richardcavell> darkhamm: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:01] <darkhamm> yes, sorry...
[08:01] <darkhamm> :9
[08:01] <neer> richardcavell: do you know how to disable it?
[08:01] <darkhamm> jaunty
[08:01] <Neroon> Threetimes: Found the devoptions line?
[08:02] <Threetimes> not yet, i wasn't looking for it yet
[08:02] <richardcavell> neer: do you have it in your Startup Applications?  Look at System->Preferences
[08:02] <test1235> Threetimes, just assuming i don't have the menu installed yet
[08:02] <neer> richardcavell: ok I will
[08:02] <richardcavell> darkhamm: you should have it there.
[08:02] <richardcavell> darkhamm: type what I gave you on the command line
[08:02] <richardcavell> darkhamm: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[08:02] <dayofswords> i hate how i pronounce ubuntu, you-bun-too, then it should properly be pronounced you-boon-too