[03:47] <none_-> it doesn't just hang?
[03:47] <transparentdream> Nope
[03:47] <transparentdream> It completes.
[03:48] <communico> SuperQ: I set up the config file exactly as it said in the wiki. homedirectories browsable=yes etc. but the ubuntu computer wouldn't show up on the windows xp machine. the odd thing was that it was there yesterday, but now it's gone. I was thinking maybe there was something else I had to do ... so I tried right-clicking on a folder, and choosing share folder. but it stil wouldn't show.
[03:48] <none_-> transparentdream: where are you trying to print from?
[03:48] <none_-> what application
[03:49] <transparentdream> The printer in my room.
[03:49] <none_-> well, from firefox, an editor or..?
[03:50] <SuperQ> communico: see /msg
[03:50] <SuperQ> communico: I will chat in private to help you debug
[03:51] <h17m4n> Ok, yesterday I was asking how to play mms:// , and I just found out if plays thru kaffeine... if anyone wants to know or input it to ubotu
[03:51] <Madpilot> h17m4n: add that info to the wiki somewhere, perhaps?
[03:51] <communico> MSG SuperQ thanks
[03:52] <SuperQ> heh
[03:52] <SuperQ> /msg superq :)
[03:52] <nalioth> h17m4n: write your wiki entry locally, (use gedit or abiword or nano, etc) b4 pasting it to the wiki
[03:52] <h17m4n> I'm not good at writting how tos :-[
[03:52] <none_-> transparentdream: open a terminal and try to print a text file using: lpr whatever
[03:53] <nalioth> h17m4n: i usually just rip mms using mmsclient and play it locally
[03:53] <transparentdream> What's lpr?
[03:53] <none_-> command line printing tool
[03:53] <transparentdream> ok
[03:55] <wastrel> speaking of lpr, anyone know how i can get ggv to talk to it?
[03:56] <transparentdream> lpr error, no default destiantion
[03:56] <transparentdream> ok
[03:56] <transparentdream> i did it, and nothing happened
[03:57] <h17m4n> mmsclient is known as mimms now btw.... found out thru synaptic
[03:57] <Madpilot> transparentdream: have you looked over the linuxprinting.org page on your printer?
[03:57] <transparentdream> yes, syas it should work
[03:58] <Drajka> how do i manually edit the sources.list?
[03:59] <h17m4n> hmmm kaffeine is unstable
[03:59] <mik3> !repositories
[03:59] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:59] <wastrel> Drajka, open /etc/apt/sources.list in your favorite text editor
[03:59] <m0biu5> anyone have any suggestions for the paritioning of a 1 gb usb key
[03:59] <Tartaros> any suggestions for a good graphical cvs client?
[04:00] <Epix> how do i restart samba?
[04:00] <Madpilot> transparentdream: do you have the various drivers recommended there installed? (they aren't by default, AFAIK, but they're all in Ubuntu repos)
[04:00] <transparentdream> yes, hpijs as well as HPLIP
[04:00] <wastrel> Epix, probably sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[04:00] <Madpilot> transparentdream: "For printing via USB you NEED to set up this printer with HPOJ, even if you do not want to scan. Only using the modified USB printer.c kernel module from the HPOJ web site does not work with this model."
[04:00] <Madpilot> transparentdream: got HPOJ installed too?
[04:01] <transparentdream> nope! Where can I get it?
[04:01] <none_-> transparentdream: it's a bug, i think
[04:01] <Epix> wastrel: nope
[04:01] <Madpilot> transparentdream: hpoj is in ubuntu repos
[04:01] <transparentdream> so apt-get install hpoj?
[04:01] <wastrel> Epix, smbd or smb something
[04:01] <Madpilot> transparentdream: sure, or search Synaptic
[04:01] <wastrel> samba isn't the name of the executable, but i dunno what it is, i dont use samba :]
[04:02] <omp342> i'm trying to install photoshop in wine, but my keyboard isnt working in the installation =o
[04:02] <Madpilot> omp342: use the gimp?
[04:02] <Angel-SL> hi
[04:02] <none_-> transparentdream: you may want to reinstall cupsys
[04:02] <none_-> if that doesn't work
[04:02] <Angel-SL> i'm on Fedora core 4 right now. i'm going to get ubuntu, but bittorrent doesnt run!
[04:02] <nalioth> omp342: or gimpshop
[04:03] <omp342> I want photoshop :P
[04:03] <nalioth> Angel-SL: direct download it
[04:03] <omp342> It worked fine in gentoo
[04:03] <prabu^> Hello all
[04:03] <transparentdream> ok
[04:03] <omp342> But not in ubuntu
[04:03] <Angel-SL> nalioth, takes too long. and always hangs
[04:03] <prabu^> i would like to ask how do i add extra IPs in ubuntu (from command line)
[04:03] <nalioth> Angel-SL: what do you use to direct d/l?
[04:03] <nalioth> prabu^: IPs to do what ?
[04:04] <none_-> ifconfig ethX add address
[04:04] <prabu^> extra external IPs
[04:04] <Angel-SL> nalioth, tried ftp client, wget and browser. all hangs
[04:04] <none_-> prabu^: your ISP has to assign them to you
[04:04] <nalioth> Angel-SL: have you tried a mirror?
[04:04] <prabu^> yea they assigned it
[04:05] <Angel-SL> nalioth, yes
[04:05] <Epix> do i need to reboot to change the hostname?
[04:05] <Hergiswi> K SHIT FUCK
[04:05] <Hergiswi> oops.
[04:05] <Hergiswi> wrong window
[04:05] <Epix> Hergiswi: nice.
[04:05] <nalioth> Angel-SL: tried prozilla or curl?
[04:05] <tomaj> where is the config file for the startup launcher?
[04:06] <nalioth> Hergiswi: please pay attention, we have women and children present
[04:06] <Hergiswi> I couldn't care less about them
[04:06] <none_-> prabu^: edit /etc/networks/interfaces
[04:06] <Madpilot> !+conduct
[04:06] <ubotu> somebody said conduct was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[04:06] <none_-> what is this, the '50s?
[04:07] <none_-> women and children?
[04:07] <nalioth> Hergiswi: we care about them in here, please try to keep your language from slippin thru
[04:07] <Hergiswi> sorry, it was the wrong window
[04:07] <Madpilot> none_-: hardly the '50s, just a better-behaved channel than most...
[04:07] <Hergiswi> anyway, for some reason XMMS keeps freezing whenever I play afile
[04:07] <Hergiswi> *a file
[04:07] <none_-> killall -9 xmms
[04:07] <none_-> try again
[04:08] <Angel-SL> nalioth, i'm torrenting, just takes too long
[04:08] <communico> SuperQ: are you getting my pms?
[04:08] <Hergiswi> I already tried that
[04:08] <Hergiswi> it doesn't work
[04:08] <Epix> none_-: you gotta hand it to him, what started out as plain vulgar turned into a linux question!
[04:08] <omp342> why did i switch to ubuntu :(
[04:08] <Brunellus> hi guys I have no mouse cursor
[04:08] <Epix> omp342: because it roxxorz teh boxxorz
[04:09] <Brunellus> /var/log/syslog has a message in it to this effect
[04:09] <nalioth> Angel-SL: unfortunately, there's not much call for hoary atm, breezy will release next month
[04:09] <transparentdream> Ok, says it fauled to communicate with my printer.
[04:09] <Epix> so, can i change the hostname without a reboot?
[04:09] <omp342> Epix: WINE doesn't work right in ubuntu, while it worked flawlessly in gentoo. =/
[04:09] <none_-> Hergiswi: check the preferences. what is xmms outputting to>
[04:09] <Brunellus> "localhost kernel psmouse.c bad data from KBC--bad parity
[04:09] <Brunellus> what's going on?
[04:09] <Epix> omp342: then do it the gnome way. get the sources and compile!
[04:09] <Epix> s/gnome/gentoo
[04:10] <rob_p> prabu^:  You mean multiple IP addresses for your single network interface?
[04:10] <Epix> hey, both have an e, an n, a g, an o and an n!
[04:10] <zcat[1] > moo!
[04:10] <Madpilot> Epix: "man <whatever the change-hostname-command-is>"?
[04:10] <Brunellus> very funny guys
[04:10] <Angel-SL> how do i start prozilla now
[04:10] <omp342> Epix: you said n twice :P
[04:10] <zcat[1] > chhostname ?
[04:10] <Hergiswi> none_-: OSS Driver 1.2.10 [libOSS.so]
[04:10] <Epix> Madpilot: you mean hostname?
[04:11] <Madpilot> Epix: whatever it is, does the man file for it help? (there seem to be a fair number of useless man files, I know...)
[04:11] <zcat[1] > edit /etc/hostname perhaps?
[04:11] <none_-> Brunellus: corrupted driver, maybe?
[04:11] <none_-> try reloading the module
[04:11] <prabu^> yea
[04:11] <bob2> omp342: have you filed a bug yet?
[04:12] <prabu^> like eth0:1
[04:12] <none_-> Hergiswi: try a different one
[04:12] <prabu^> and stuff
[04:12] <Angel-SL> augh
[04:12] <prabu^> its ok i got it workin
[04:12] <bob2> a "corrupted driver" is exceedingly unlikely
[04:12] <Brunellus> how do I reload that module
[04:12] <Brunellus> and would I have to restart x?
[04:12] <Bad_Magic> anyone know how to change the channel that is changed with the volume up/down keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[04:12] <zcat[1] > why would anyone want to change a hostname? that's like renaming your kids!
[04:12] <wastrel> i change my hostname whenever i install a new distro
[04:12] <Angel-SL> nalioth, how do i use prozilla
[04:12] <Hergiswi> none_-: it worked, thanks! =o
[04:12] <none_-> cool
[04:13] <Angel-SL> nalioth, how do i use prozilla
[04:13] <Angel-SL> ?/?
[04:13] <bob2> don't use prozilla
[04:13] <communico>  /msg communico_ link communico teddyb28
[04:13] <rob_p> prabu^:  Do, "ifconfig ethX:0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>" and then, "route add -host <IP_ADDRESS> ethX:0"
[04:13] <manji> hey how can i get Centrino wireless working on Ubuntu 5?
[04:13] <zcat[1] > I only change a hostname when I completely rebuild a box.. even then the hostname usually sticks with the case and mobo..
[04:13] <bob2> manji: it's already working
[04:13] <manji> bob2: really? hmmm. i will check the network then, thanks
[04:13] <Brunellus> any ideas as to what's happening with my mouse?
[04:14] <Angel-SL> !torrent
[04:14] <ubotu> Angel-SL: Not a clue
[04:14] <bob2> manji: you need to configure it, etc, but the driver is already loaded
[04:14] <Angel-SL> !bit
[04:14] <Epix> zcat[1] : my hostname already exists on another computer....
[04:14] <ubotu> Angel-SL: Are you on ritalin?
[04:14] <Angel-SL> !btorrent
[04:14] <ubotu> Angel-SL: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:14] <none_-> bob2: "exceedingly unlikely"
[04:14] <none_-> ?
[04:14] <Epix> zcat[1] : whoops!
[04:14] <manji> bob2: any special way to configure it?
[04:14] <Angel-SL> !bittorrent
[04:14] <ubotu> methinks bittorrent is at <reply> The BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:14] <bob2> none_-: that's my polite way of saying "the driver is not corrupt"
[04:14] <nalioth> Angel-SL: after you install it, open a terminal and type "proz -k=<number of threads you want to use> URL_to_file_you_want
[04:14] <bob2> Angel-SL: you can talk to the bot in /msg, too
[04:14] <nalioth> Angel-SL: prozilla is most useful on LARGE files
[04:14] <bob2> manji: just the same as any other network device
[04:14] <none_-> Burgundavia: rmmod psmouse
[04:14] <none_-> modprobe psmouse
[04:15] <bob2> manji: except that you set the essid (and key if you need it) with iwconfig
[04:15] <bob2> manji: I gather gnome has some gui thing, too
[04:15] <Brunellus> that's directed at me, I'll do it.
[04:15] <manji> bob2: lol yeah probly
[04:15] <manji> bob2: thank you much
[04:15] <Brunellus> hey that worked
[04:15] <Epix> one day im going to time ubuntu boot/login/total and my winxp one.
[04:15] <none_-> well bob2
[04:15] <bob2> manji: (yo ucan do it all in /etc/network/interfaces, too)
[04:16] <none_-> exceedingly unlikely?
[04:16] <manji> bob2: yeah figured
[04:16] <Epix> the ubuntu box is crappier but beats the boot for winxp by about 1 min
[04:16] <Brunellus> reloading the module gave me my cursor back but no screen
[04:16] <Epix> by boot i mean from the time i push the switch to the time it gives me firefox
[04:16] <bob2> that's impressive, my desktop takes about the same for each
[04:16] <none_-> your display is messed up as well?
[04:16] <wastrel> anyone know how i can get ggv to talk to my printer?   printing from xpdf works  .... using CUPS
[04:17] <mik3> HAHHAAHH SEVEAS I GOT IT
[04:17] <none_-> what do you mean by screen?
[04:17] <zcat[1] > This box has never had XP on it.. and I haven't rebooted ubuntu for quite a while
[04:17] <bob2> wastrel: tell it to use lp to print
[04:17] <bob2> well, that too; suspend-to-disk is magic
[04:17] <zcat[1] > so boot time is mostly irrelevent
[04:17] <Epix> craphole
[04:17] <bimberi> mik3: What was it?
[04:18] <Epix> windows wont let me login to the samba share
[04:18] <Angel-SL> nalioth, i only got the torrent
[04:18] <transparentdream> OK, for some reason the comp can;t commmunicate with the printer...it could before...why not now?
[04:18] <Drajka> Hrm
[04:18] <Bad_Magic> anyone know how to connect to a 2nd server using bitchx?
[04:18] <Epix> heh, i got the username wrong :P
[04:18] <Drajka> K, I want to run Wine, or another windows emulator.... It's obviously not on synaptic.....
[04:18] <nalioth> Angel-SL: you can go to www.ubuntu.com/download    and get a link to a mirror close to you
[04:18] <bob2> Bad_Magic: #bitchx
[04:18] <Drajka> and i tried compiling it once, but it didn't work.
[04:18] <bob2> irssi has better support for that sort of thing
[04:18] <none_-> Bad_Magic: /window server i think
[04:18] <Drajka> So what can I do
[04:19] <bob2> Drajka: sure it is
[04:19] <bob2> Drajka: /msg ubotu repository
[04:19] <Angel-SL> nalioth, there isnt
[04:19] <none_-> or not
[04:19] <Drajka> =/
[04:19] <Drajka> I have like
[04:19] <Drajka> all the packs in there.......... or most.....
[04:19] <Drajka> i have 15664 ..
[04:20] <bob2> Drajka: if you have configured apt to use universe, you have wine available
[04:20] <zcat[1] > I have never managed to get Wine to run anything more complex than Solitare. OTOH isn't that all most ppl do on windows, perhaps it's apropos..
[04:20] <Drajka> Alright............
[04:20] <Drajka> How do I configure it then -.
[04:20] <Drajka> -.-
[04:20] <Epix> i dont like openoffice much. whats another good free suite for ubuntu?
[04:20] <none_-> might as well run vmware
[04:20] <zcat[1] > koffice
[04:20] <none_-> abiword
[04:20] <wastrel> abiword + gnumeric
[04:20] <none_-> ah, suite
[04:20] <vader1102> abiword
[04:20] <zcat[1] > abiword's not a suite!
[04:20] <wastrel> no suite really :]
[04:20] <bob2> Drajka: did you install it yet?
[04:20] <wastrel> but i <3 abiword
[04:20] <none_-> yeah
[04:21] <none_-> koffice is good as long as you don't want to use proprietary formats
[04:21] <Epix> wastrel: i dont mind it ether, i was using it on a windows box which has MSWORD, because word kept crashing.
[04:21] <none_-> openoffice is the best for compatability
[04:21] <Drajka> Install what?
[04:21] <bob2> Drajka: wine
[04:21] <zcat[1] > I wouldn't know; I never actually used koffice.. :)
[04:21] <Drajka> No......
[04:21] <Drajka> I can't find it.
[04:22] <oneseventeen> I just connected to my fpt server via nautilus, but I can't browse to the folder in certain apps (such as my web editing tools), is there a way I can mount the remote ftp folder as a normal folder (or symlink) in my home directory as well/instead?
[04:22] <bob2> Drajka: so, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[04:22] <mik3> anyone know the name of that other application that combines all instant messengers together? it has a 3 letter name
[04:23] <bob2> oneseventeen: not really
[04:23] <bob2> mik3: gaim and bitlbee can do that
[04:23] <mik3> there's another one i found too
[04:23] <vader1102> jabber
[04:23] <IcemanV9> mik3: gaim or kopete (kde app)
[04:23] <TitsMcGee2> what's an alternative program to listen to a stream other than xmms?
[04:23] <none_-> sim ?
[04:23] <Drajka> ..
[04:23] <nmstryoda> kopete too
[04:23] <Drajka> bob2,
[04:23] <Drajka> if i paste it directly
[04:23] <zcat[1] > TitsMcGee2: mplayer, vlc ?
[04:23] <Drajka> i'll flood off the newtork, wont i?
[04:23] <TitsMcGee2> thanks
[04:24] <oneseventeen> bob2 thanks, just checking...
[04:24] <TitsMcGee2> thanks zcat[1]
[04:24] <nalioth> TitsMcGee2: beep media player, kopete
[04:24] <Epix> woah
[04:24] <bob2> Drajka: not unless your irc client is utter crap
[04:24] <Epix> i never even noticed the nice ubuntu config apps
[04:24] <Drajka> the one that came with ubuntu.
[04:24] <bimberi> mik3: did you fix the apt/gzip issue?
[04:24] <Drajka> I want to use mIRC, but I need Wine to use it.
[04:24] <Drajka> AFAIK.
[04:24] <nmstryoda> Drajka, paste in http://rafb.net
[04:24] <bob2> Drajka: lots comewith ubuntu
[04:24] <nmstryoda> if it is big
[04:24] <Madpilot> !paste
[04:24] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:24] <bob2> Drajka: please tell me you're joking about wanting wine to run mirc
[04:24] <nmstryoda> LOL
[04:24] <Drajka> No, I want Wine to run games.
[04:24] <none_-> it runs it perfectly
[04:24] <bob2> anywya, just paste it already
[04:25] <bob2> if you're using bitchx, you lose
[04:25] <bob2> if not, you're fine
[04:25] <mik3> Anyways, anyone who has been familiar with my apt problems, after 5 full days of troubleshooting with Seveas and other people from #debian I have found the solution, this may be significant to some of you in here, take a look at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469
[04:25] <none_-> Drajka: wine won't run 3d games
[04:25] <Epix> is there any real downside to openoffice? i thought it was slow but it runs quickly on this box
[04:25] <Drajka> http://rafb.net/paste/results/wupbrP97.html
[04:25] <transparentdream> What does it mean when i run cupsd and it says "Child exited with status 13
[04:25] <Drajka> I'm not looking to run 3d  :P
[04:25] <mik3> Epix: i *love* openoffice
[04:25] <bimberi> mik3: thanks (i was interested) :)
[04:25] <mik3> bimberi : =>
[04:25] <nmstryoda> zcat[1] , LOLROTF
[04:26] <bob2> transparentdream: it meas you shouldn't be running it manually
[04:26] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : I like the recursiveness of that... ;)
[04:26] <transparentdream> oh...
[04:26] <bob2> transparentdream: it's started at boot
[04:26] <Drajka> http://rafb.net/paste/results/wupbrP97.html
[04:26] <bob2> so
[04:26] <Epix> how do i make shortcuts to directories on my desktop?
[04:26] <bob2> I believe I said #flood
[04:26] <bimberi> mik3: ahhh, duplicate entries
[04:26] <bob2> not some random website
[04:27] <ar_media> HELP!  I want to run grub on hda to boot windows 2000(hda2), Ubuntu(hdc1) and Fedora(hdd1) can anyone tell me how i would do that?  or where I can look?
[04:27] <nmstryoda> Epix, hold both mouse buttons down and drag the folder
[04:27] <bob2> Drajka: anyway, you have wine available
[04:27] <nmstryoda> you will be asked
[04:27] <nmstryoda> to link
[04:27] <bob2> Drajka: paste the output of 'apt-cache policy wine'
[04:27] <nmstryoda> or copy or move
[04:27] <Epix> zcat[1] : yes, get wine to run on cygwin, then get cygwin to run on wine, rinse, repeat.
[04:27] <none_-> ar_media: ubuntu will set it up automatically during install
[04:27] <bob2> ar_media: you edit the grub config, /boot/grub/menu.lst, but that will happen by default
[04:27] <zcat[1] > none_-: so will redhat
[04:28] <none_-> windows will delete everything
[04:28] <zcat[1] > err Fedora..
[04:28] <wastrel> anybody smrt know why my ggv won't print?
[04:28] <nmstryoda> Epix, or qemu running wine running cygwin, ad infinitum
[04:28] <none_-> make sure you install it first
[04:28] <ar_media> well i already installed ubuntu first
[04:28] <none_-> fedora is nice
[04:28] <Drajka> wine:
[04:28] <Drajka>   Installed: (none)
[04:28] <Drajka>   Candidate: (none)
[04:28] <Drajka>   Version table:
[04:28] <Drajka> woot@woot:~$
[04:28] <none_-> ar_media: windows will take over
[04:28] <bob2> Drajka: do. not. paste. in. here.
[04:28] <zcat[1] > Install Windows, then ubuntu.. ubuntu will fix what windows screws up..
[04:28] <none_-> make a boot disk first
[04:28] <Drajka> =\
[04:28] <ar_media> no it won't
[04:28] <bob2> wastrel: did you tell it to use lp or not?
[04:28] <nmstryoda> ar_media, you can repair the MBR after you install ubuntu
[04:28] <Madpilot> Drajka: available != installed. check Synaptic for it...
[04:29] <wastrel> bob2 i don't see anywhere to configure that
[04:29] <zcat[1] > it will; it'll see the redhat install even though windows isn't booting it
[04:29] <bob2> Drajka: I wouldn't be annoyed except that I told you three times
[04:29] <bob2> oh, I see
[04:29] <ar_media> ok, I have all of the os's i want installed. i want to change it on my own without using another installer
[04:29] <bob2> you're using some random sources.list from the forums
[04:29] <Drajka> ..
[04:29] <Drajka> Madpilot, ........
[04:29] <bob2> ar_media: so, be quiet and do what I said
[04:29] <Drajka> I have checked Synaptic.
[04:29] <Drajka> I can't find it.
[04:29] <Drajka> It isn't on there.
[04:29] <Concord_Dawn> what's the identd that comes with Ubuntu?
[04:29] <Epix> lets see how nice openoffice's spreadsheet is
[04:30] <none_-> pidentd, i think
[04:30] <nmstryoda> Drajka, you have added the extra repositories to your sources.list ?
[04:30] <nmstryoda> !repos
[04:30] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:30] <bob2> Concord_Dawn: none
[04:30] <zcat[1] > !oldworld
[04:30] <ubotu> zcat[1] : I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:30] <bob2> nmstryoda: he/she already showed us their sources.list
[04:30] <Drajka> Yes
[04:30] <mik3> hahah holy crap, 5 days of troubleshooting and i found it on bugzilla
[04:30] <Madpilot> Drajka: you need Universe for wine, I think...
[04:30] <nmstryoda> bob2, k
[04:30] <Concord_Dawn> Madpilot, you need a seperate repo.
[04:30] <Drajka> I'm pretty sure it's on there, if it isn't let me know what to do.
[04:30] <IcemanV9> Epix: calc is really GOOD. i've been using it w/o any problem (knock on wood)
[04:31] <Madpilot> !+info wine
[04:31] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[04:31] <Madpilot> nope, it is in Universe...
[04:31] <Concord_Dawn> heh
[04:31] <Concord_Dawn> I have a seperate repo for it.
[04:31] <Sonny_Wertzik> hi
[04:31] <Drajka> So.....  Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:33] <Concord_Dawn> !+info pidentd
[04:33] <ubotu> pidentd: (TCP/IP IDENT protocol server with DES support), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 3.0.16-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[04:34] <b3nd3r> hi
[04:34] <b3nd3r> any one there
[04:34] <Sonny_Wertzik> hi
[04:34] <IcemanV9> nobody's home ;)
[04:34] <Epix> is there a way to make WINKEY-D show desktop?
[04:34] <Drajka> ... none_- ,   Depends: python-xdg (>=0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed <-- Do I need to do an apt-get install python-xdg?
[04:34] <luckyaba> anyone know anything about streaming video ?
[04:35] <Epix> luckyaba: dont ask to ask just ask!
[04:35] <bob2> Drajka: that could be a problem with the baclports repository
[04:35] <luckyaba> im having trouble finding a program to stream my webcam to the internet
[04:35] <bob2> I'd assume it was, in fact
[04:36] <Sonny_Wertzik> Has anyone here gotten an Audigy 2 card to work?
[04:36] <skalpel> does anyone here use the gui front end for mldonkey?
[04:36] <Drajka> So how can I get a menu editor? I can't handle installing programs, yet having it be near impossible to run them/remember that i installed them.
[04:37] <zcat[1] > Somewhere in the system menu there should already be a menu editor..
[04:37] <bob2> Drajka: have to talk to the backports people, I guess
[04:37] <none_-> !smeg
[04:38] <ubotu> smeg is, like, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:38] <bob2> tho it's arch-all
[04:38] <bob2> so it would be an impressively broken repository
[04:38] <skalpel> can someone help me install the gui for mldonkey?
[04:38] <none_-> !porn
[04:38] <ubotu> I don't know, none_-
[04:38] <bob2> !+CoC
[04:38] <ubotu> well, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[04:38] <none_-> !warez
[04:38] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, none_-
[04:38] <zcat[1] > skalpel: sudo apt-get install mldonkey-gui
[04:38] <zcat[1] > doesn't that work?
[04:38] <jjazz> I have two different xorg.conf files, one for dual-head and one for when I take the laptop home and thus don't have dual-head.  Is there an easy way to tell Ubuntu to switch between these two conf files?  Thanks.
[04:39] <zcat[1] > skalpel: sudo apt-get install kmldonkey if you use kde
[04:39] <skalpel> zcat[1] , what is the executable called, do you mind telling me?
[04:39] <Xorlev> Sonny_Wertzik: I have
[04:39] <zcat[1] > it should get added to a menu somewhere..
[04:39] <skalpel> zcat[1] , i cannot find it
[04:39] <Drajka> k
[04:39] <Drajka> I got smeg.deb
[04:39] <zcat[1] > hmm...
[04:39] <Drajka> Now what do I do
[04:39] <mik3> !repos
[04:39] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:39] <Drajka> I have no damn idea what do wo with it :<
[04:39] <Drajka> with*
[04:39] <none_-> sudo dpkg -i file
[04:40] <mik3> !repositories
[04:40] <ubotu> repositories is, like, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:40] <Drajka> is that to me, none?
[04:40] <none_-> yah
[04:40] <Drajka> kk
[04:40] <zcat[1] > open a shell and type mldonkey<tab> perhaps?
[04:40] <skalpel> ok
[04:40] <none_-> it's mlgui
[04:40] <Sonny_Wertzik> hi Xorlev
[04:40] <Drajka> none_-,
[04:41] <Drajka> I got the same error as before
[04:41] <Drajka> with that python deal
[04:41] <Epix> *woot*
[04:41] <Epix> samba is awesome
[04:41] <neri_> how can i mount a ntfs disk drive? please anwser me
[04:41] <Xorlev> Sonny_Wertzik: I have an Audigy 2 running.
[04:41] <none_-> dunno, Drajka .. gotta go. good luck
[04:41] <skalpel> zcat[1] , i do not see anything relating to 'gui'
[04:41] <nalioth> !tell neri_ about ntfs
[04:41] <Epix> its like OH NO i have to work with windows... but i can keep the linuxness
[04:41] <Epix> woot
[04:41] <aru> I have a soundblaster audigy platinum (not 2) and am trying to get audacity to record from the line in on the front panel... where I am supposed to be able to select different inputs has nothing listed... if anyone has any ideas, let me know
[04:41] <omp342> i don't use samba
[04:41] <bob2> come on people
[04:41] <vader1102> neri_, have fun, now supported
[04:41] <Sonny_Wertzik> Xorlev ---- I guess i wanted to know its possible first off
[04:41] <Sonny_Wertzik> hehe
[04:42] <omp342> i just mount the shared folders on windows computers with CIFS :)
[04:42] <vader1102> not sorry
[04:42] <Sonny_Wertzik> how long did it take u??
[04:42] <Xorlev> neri_: mount -t ntfs /dev/drive /mnt/point, or http://www.ubuntuguide.org for the fstab line, though I removed the UTF-8 bit
[04:42] <nalioth> neri_: be careful at ubuntuguide
[04:42] <Xorlev> Sonny_Wertzik: All I had to do was open alsamixer and unmute the analog/digital output.
[04:43] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya i uhhh tried that but i get no mixer
[04:43] <Sonny_Wertzik> whats the command exactly?
[04:43] <vader1102> Sonny_Wertzik, are you useing Warty or Hoary?
[04:44] <omp342> I LOVE UBUNTU!! (i got wine working in ubuntu better than it did in gentoo)
[04:44] <omp342> :)
[04:44] <Xorlev> Sonny_Wertzik: Type alsamixer into a terminal
[04:44] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok i did...1 sec
[04:44] <IcemanV9> omp342: to run mIRC app?? :p
[04:45] <wastrel> anyone know how i can get ggv to print ?  using CUPS.  xpdf prints fine...
[04:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> i got this :alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:45] <omp342> IcemanV9: photoshop :)
[04:45] <nalioth> howdy tritium
[04:46] <tritium> hi nalioth
[04:46] <none_-> Sonny_Wertzik: try apt-get install alsa-base
[04:46] <omp342> the only thing gentoo is better at than ubuntu is ati drivers
[04:46] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok i will 1 sec
[04:46] <omp342> in gentoo i get ~4500 glxgears while in ubuntu i only get ~3500
[04:46] <omp342> oh well :)
[04:46] <none_-> same here
[04:47] <Xorlev> omp342: Sometimes its just a process or something using extra CPU or GPU power.
[04:47] <matthew_w> Hey - if I mark something as "for complete uninstallation/removal" it won't leave any annoying config files etc. behind will it?
[04:47] <Xorlev> Nope
[04:47] <Xorlev> Thats complete removal.
[04:47] <Quinthius> oplog7654: i think gentoo adds various patches to the ati driver, which may have something to do with it
[04:47] <scanwinder> im thinking about buying an nvidia 6200 256mb graphics card, what's the support like in ubuntu?...........also, any idea how much better than my radeon9200SE will it run?
[04:47] <Epix> how do i edit gnome menus
[04:47] <omp342> what's a good mp3 player?
[04:47] <omp342> xmms?
[04:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok none i got this....    Reading package lists... Done
[04:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[04:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:47] <Xorlev> XMMS I like
[04:48] <Quinthius> omp342: rhythmbox!
[04:48] <Xorlev> amaroK is nice too
[04:48] <Xorlev> Depends on what you like.
[04:48] <none_-> scanwinder: nVidia supports linux well
[04:48] <mik3> omp342 : bmp
[04:48] <IcemanV9> BMP (beep-media-player!)
[04:48] <jjazz> I have two different xorg.conf files, one for dual-head and one for when I take the laptop home and thus don't have dual-head.  Is there an easy way to tell Ubuntu to switch between these two conf files?  Thanks.
[04:48] <Quinthius> omp342: and my message to oplog7654 was meant for you too, sorry
[04:48] <aru> omp342: depends if you want just a simple program or something to library and take up your whole screen :)
[04:48] <Xorlev> XMMS is more Winampy for me, and I prefer that.
[04:48] <none_-> really though, use windows if you want to play games
[04:49] <none_-> video card support on linux sucks
[04:49] <Xorlev> I play my games on Linux just fine.
[04:49] <none_-> in general, anyway
[04:49] <omp342> aru: all i need is a simple player because i don't like keeping playlists
[04:49] <Quinthius> i thought rhythmbox looked stupid and too simple at first, but i'm really starting to like it combined with easytag for sorting
[04:49] <chavo> none_-, I play games in Linux also
[04:49] <Xorlev> nVidia supports Linux surprisingly well.
[04:49] <chavo> all of the ones I own
[04:49] <aru> for me, I'm not really looking at my OGG player unless I'm loading a song... so xmms or beep it is
[04:49] <omp342> aru: i just have VERY organized folders :)
[04:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> none....?
[04:49] <none_-> linux has hardly any games
[04:49] <matthew_w> Anyone know anything about tweaking TCP/IP settings?
[04:49] <aru> omp342: as do I... BMP or Beep Media Player would suit you fine :)
[04:49] <Xorlev> none_-: Thus, WineX and Cedega.
[04:49] <scanwinder> i play games in linux.........but they seem to run better in windoes - probably because my graphics card is ati tho
[04:49] <none_-> Sonny_Wertzik: i dunno what the problem is
[04:49] <chavo> I have cedega
[04:50] <aru> omp342: it's a lot like winamp 3
[04:50] <bob2> matthew_w: er, pick the channel for the distro you're actually using
[04:50] <none_-> winex sucks too :)
[04:50] <Epix> how do i edit gnome menus?
[04:50] <omp342> i like winamp 2 the most :P
[04:50] <chavo> scanwinder, how much are you paying for the card?
[04:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok thanx anyway
[04:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> i refuse to quit hehehe
[04:50] <scanwinder> chavo, i saw the 6200 for $105
[04:50] <aru> omp342: you'll probably feel right at home with BMP
[04:50] <none_-> ALSA is messed up, that's all i know
[04:51] <Xorlev> Sonny_Wertzik: Did you try unmuting (with the M key) the Analog/Digital channel?
[04:51] <chavo> I just got a 6600GT and it screams
[04:51] <omp342> aru: okay, thanks :)
[04:51] <matthew_w> bob2; aren't TCP/IP alterations cross-distribution, right into windows, for that matter.
[04:51] <chavo> replaced my ancient ti4200
[04:51] <Sonny_Wertzik> no i didnt
[04:51] <scanwinder> chavo: that $105 is AUD by the way
[04:51] <bob2> matthew_w: it's considred quite rude to bother support channels for things you don't use
[04:51] <Epix> sorry, laptop battery died
[04:51] <chavo> ah ok
[04:51] <bob2> you're unlikely to get help about tcp settings in here
[04:51] <aru> omp342: http://www.sosdg.org/~larne/w/Screenshots <- BMP screenies
[04:51] <Sonny_Wertzik> how do i do that?
[04:51] <bob2> since peopel are now comparing the size of their video cards
[04:52] <aru> 10 inches
[04:52] <matthew_w> I'm using the hoary hedgehog ubuntu. ...
[04:52] <aru> err...
[04:52] <chavo> That's a good deal
[04:52] <Xorlev> Sonny_Wertzik: Open alsamixer in terminal, then scroll to the left until you get to Item: Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack
[04:52] <Xorlev> Then hit M
[04:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh my mixer doesnt open
[04:52] <Xorlev> Hmm
[04:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> i get this message
[04:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[04:53] <Sonny_Wertzik> i got this :alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:53] <chavo> although my favorite game is Enemy Territory, which ran fine with the old card
[04:53] <communico> hey, can anyone help me setup ubuntu to use as a server? it won't show in my windows xp machine's network list
[04:53] <Epix> chavo, yep! ET rock!
[04:53] <Xorlev> Look on http://www.ubuntuforums.org, and try a few of the solutions there. It sounds like it needs a symlink or two.
[04:53] <Epix> s
[04:53] <bob2> communico: install samba
[04:53] <scanwinder> chave: how would a nvidia 6200 run compared to my 9200SE?.........it should be alot better right?.......i have trouble in america's army with the 9200se........and the rest of my comp should be plenty powerful enough 2 handel it, my cpu is a athlonXP 2500+
[04:53] <communico> I've installed samba and configured it
[04:54] <none_-> enemy territory is a hard game
[04:54] <Epix> communico, nice.
[04:54] <communico> but it still won't show
[04:54] <Epix> none_-, it is, but you get used to it
[04:54] <chavo> scanwinder, not really sure, I haven't kept up with the graphics card race
[04:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya i did that Xorlev...thanx for tryin to help
[04:54] <none_-> people own me in it
[04:54] <chavo> I'm usually about 2 years behind
[04:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> ill keep tring stuff
[04:54] <none_-> and i kick ass at most FPS's
[04:54] <Xorlev> Sonny_Wertzik: With Linux, you try, try, and try again, and finally it works.
[04:54] <aru> I have a sweet 64mb nvidia something, it displays a terminal like you wouldn't believe :)
[04:54] <Xorlev> =)
[04:54] <chavo> et is the first online game I tried, got it about 6 months ago and I'm addicted
[04:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> ill get it sooner or later
[04:54] <concept10> none_-: you should try true combat: elite
[04:54] <Epix> none_-, what other FPSs are on linux (feel free to PM)
[04:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> hehehe
[04:55] <none_-> quake3 is my favorite
[04:55] <Sonny_Wertzik> ill feel great when i get it to work
[04:55] <none_-> there's unreal tournament
[04:55] <none_-> doom 3
[04:55] <chavo> ook quake3 I have never tried.
[04:55] <none_-> quake II
[04:55] <chavo> ooh
[04:55] <Epix> none_-, UT original on linux? really?
[04:55] <chavo> yes
[04:55] <luckyaba> can someon help me setup a stream with VLC?
[04:55] <Xorlev> But once it does work, it crushes everything, and the euphoria of getting something to work is nearly unparalled.
[04:55] <concept10> nolan: true combat: elite is a mod of enemy territory, its really nice
[04:55] <none_-> not sure, but i know 2004 is on it
[04:55] <communico> should it just appear automatically, or is there some switch I need to flick ...
[04:55] <none_-> is it slower paced, concept10 ?
[04:56] <Epix> well im out.
[04:56] <concept10> Has anyone successfully used the shares-admin tool>
[04:56] <concept10> none_-: yes!
[04:56] <none_-> bye
[04:56] <chs_> libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[04:56] <Epix> school has begun. first school year using linux for schoolish stuff
[04:56] <chs_> anyone have that
[04:56] <Epix> bye!
[04:56] <Tartaros> any suggestions for a good graphical cvs client?
[04:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya ...i want to get better
[04:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> at this linux
[04:56] <Brunellus> arrrrgh.  my day was saved...by MICROSOFT.
[04:56] <jjazz> Where do I start in debugging a wireless connection?  I'm trying to do it through the GUI, and when I activate the wireless connection, it tells me the connex is active, but then the network is unreachable.
[04:56] <neri_> how can i login as a root?
[04:56] <Brunellus> (in the form of an ancient MS mouse
[04:57] <chavo> Tartaros, there is cervisia but it is a kde app\ konqueror plugin
[04:57] <nmstryoda> jjazz, open a console
[04:57] <concept10> none_-: it is somewhat like real combat, no jumping around and unreal stuff like enemy territory
[04:57] <nmstryoda> er, terminal
[04:57] <chavo> It works very well
[04:57] <none_-> sweet
[04:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> Root teminal
[04:57] <scanwinder> i cant get any sound in enemy territory for some reason................
[04:57] <jjazz> nmstryoda, I have one open
[04:57] <omp342> i installed something by opening a sh file, how can i get rid of it?
[04:57] <chavo> I like the unrealness of ER
[04:57] <nmstryoda> jjazz, then type sudo -s and your password
[04:57] <none_-> since we are talking about it.. time to go play :)
[04:57] <concept10> none_-: goto www.truecombat.com
[04:58] <jjazz> nmstryoda, ok.  I'm root
[04:58] <nmstryoda> jjazz, now type ifconfig
[04:58] <none_-> scanwinder: esd takes over the sound device
[04:58] <bimberi> !tell neri_ about root
[04:58] <nmstryoda> jjazz, does it show your device/
[04:58] <nmstryoda> ?
[04:58] <Tartaros> chavo: ok, could be. thanks
[04:58] <jjazz> nmstryoda, There's only an entry for lo, not eth0
[04:58] <nmstryoda> ah
[04:58] <nmstryoda> ok
[04:58] <Brunellus> lo=localhost, right.
[04:58] <jjazz> Brunellus, yup
[04:58] <transgress> okay i think ima invest in a pcmcia wifi card for my lappy... anyone have suggestions?  i'm wanting one that has a good chipset that doesn't require ndiswrapper
[04:58] <scanwinder> none_-: ok........how do i fix the problem?
[04:58] <communico> i've been trying to get this working for two days, so I could really use some new ideas
[04:59] <Brunellus> transgress:  the wiki is your friend...try the wireless hardware page
[04:59] <khermans> what is the package called with the monthly updated Ubuntu desktop backgrounds?
[04:59] <chavo> Tartaros, I run KDE and cervisia is an excellent tool by the way
[04:59] <none_-> book of the long sun?
[04:59] <nmstryoda> jjazz, using WEP ?
[04:59] <jjazz> nmstryoda, Yes
[04:59] <none_-> scanwinder: killalled -15 esd
[04:59] <none_-> killall
[04:59] <scanwinder> pl. thanks
[04:59] <Brunellus> man.  lemme tell y'all. life without a scrollwheel SUX.
[04:59] <nmstryoda> jjazz, does your router set your hostname or is that static?
[04:59] <concept10> Anyone used the shares-admin tool?   System > Admin > Shared Folders?  I cannot get it to start!!!!!
[04:59] <chavo> I run all my games as a seperate login
[05:00] <jjazz> nmstryoda, I don't believe I've ever seen an option on the router for setting the hostname.
[05:00] <nmstryoda> jjazz, i just had issue with my wep key...
[05:00] <jjazz> nmstryoda, By hostname, do you mean essid?
[05:00] <nmstryoda> jjazz, i had to choose hex and enter it manually
[05:00] <nmstryoda> jjazz, nope.. system hostname
[05:00] <nmstryoda> but you should choose the essid too
[05:00] <scanwinder> none_-: didnt work
[05:01] <jjazz> nmstryoda, I did choose the essid.  There's no option in my router config to choose hostnames
[05:01] <nmstryoda> ok
[05:01] <nmstryoda> np
[05:01] <omp342> in BMP output settings, should i use OSS, ALSA, or eSound?
[05:01] <concept10> How well does the x86_64 version of Hoary works?  any known problems?
[05:02] <omp342> concept10: i had trouble getting direct rendering to work with an ATI card
[05:02] <omp342> but that's all
[05:02] <bob2> concept10: do yu care about binary-only software?
[05:02] <nmstryoda> jjazz, did you look at the wiki on ubuntu wifi?
[05:02] <nmstryoda> !wireless
[05:02] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:02] <concept10> omp342: what about flash?
[05:02] <bob2> and it's "amd64", not x86_64
[05:02] <bob2> concept10: no flash
[05:02] <yonkeltron> what is the next version of ubuntu going to be called?
[05:02] <omp342> concept10: never tried it :P
[05:02] <bob2> concept10: no binary-only junk, in general
[05:02] <concept10> bob2: okay.
[05:02] <bob2> yonkeltron: breezy badger
[05:02] <nmstryoda> Breezy badger
[05:02] <omp342> concept10: i switched to i386, much better :)
[05:03] <omp342> concept10: java didn't work either
[05:03] <jjazz> nmstryoda, no, I wasn't aware of it (I'm a long-time Debian user but wholly new to Ubuntu)
[05:03] <nmstryoda> jjazz, ok
[05:03] <nmstryoda> hope that will help you
[05:03] <concept10> omp342: Im going to get a new system tommorow, cant believe how cheap and fast amd64 systems are
[05:03] <omp342> concept10: i love my athlon 64 :)
[05:03] <nmstryoda> jjazz, you can do the same commands using ifconfig add default... etc
[05:03] <nmstryoda> jjazz, just as in most distros
[05:04] <nmstryoda> but of course the gui should be the simple way
[05:04] <jjazz> nmstryoda, ok.  Good to know.  Although, truth be known, I've always found wireless setup to be a mystery
[05:04] <nmstryoda> jjazz, is it an atheros card?
[05:04] <nmstryoda> jjazz, it still is
[05:04] <nmstryoda> hehe
[05:04] <concept10> bob2: any benefit running apps using x86_64 kernel vs. i386?  (normal desktop apps_
[05:04] <endy_x> bob2, amd64 == x86-64 == x64, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD64 :)
[05:04] <nmstryoda> but ubuntu has gone to great lengths to make it pretty dang simple
[05:04] <Madpilot> how do I delete backup copies? Bluefish has created a bunch of HTML backups that I no longer need but can't seem to delete!
[05:04] <jjazz> nmstryoda, I don't know who makes the card.  It's a prism chipset
[05:05] <nmstryoda> jjazz, ah, ok
[05:05] <nmstryoda> prismGT
[05:05] <nmstryoda> i'll bet
[05:05] <nmstryoda> jjazz, lets make sure the module is loaded
[05:05] <bob2> concept10: sure, you can use more ram
[05:05] <nmstryoda> jjazz, lsmod | grep prism
[05:05] <bob2> concept10: use amd64 unless you really care about binary-only crap
[05:05] <bob2> Madpilot: define "can't delete"
[05:05] <nmstryoda> think that will show it exisits
[05:05] <none_-> concept10: video encoding tends to speed up
[05:06] <none_-> other than that, no
[05:06] <bob2> endy_x: amd64 is the ubuntu and Debian architecture name
[05:06] <Madpilot> bob2: Synaptic will not lete me delete the files - they all end in ~
[05:06] <none_-> encoding mp3s, etc
[05:06] <bob2> Madpilot: why would synaptic care about files at all?
[05:06] <concept10> bob2: excuse me for being befuddled, but what do you mean by 'binary only'
[05:06] <jjazz> nmstryoda, hmm... no prism... but the Orinoco modules are loaded, so perhaps this is not a prism after all
[05:06] <bob2> Madpilot: you mean nautilus?
[05:07] <Madpilot> bob2: sorry, Nautilus..
[05:07] <nmstryoda> jjazz, so Orinoco
[05:07] <nmstryoda> good
[05:07] <bob2> concept10: non-free shit, e.g. flash, acrobat, windows games, wine
[05:07] <jjazz> nmstryoda, It's onboard and it's a work laptop, which is why I don't know anything about it
[05:07] <endy_x> ok, i just thought you were suggesting amd64 was a different architecture to x86_64 :)
[05:07] <transgress> hey 802.11g is backwards compatible right?  like a card that only does 802.11b can still connect to a g router right?
[05:07] <nalioth> transgress: correct
[05:07] <tritium> yes, transgress
[05:07] <nmstryoda> jjazz, not to worrry
[05:07] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to config xorg to use transparency windows?
[05:07] <nmstryoda> jjazz, try this... iwconfig
[05:07] <nmstryoda> or ifconfig -a
[05:08] <bob2> ubuntu: you don't
[05:08] <nmstryoda> to see if it is listed
[05:08] <none_-> 846.2KB/s
[05:08] <none_-> fear
[05:08] <bob2> ubuntu: you can tell X to enable the Composite extension and have transset make things transparent, tho
[05:08] <bob2> ubuntu: but it's not trivial, an it makes X crashy
[05:08] <nmstryoda> ubuntu, right O... bob is on the money....
[05:08] <nmstryoda> and slowwwwwwwwwwwwww
[05:08] <jjazz> nmstryoda, ifconfig -a does list eth0.  iwconfig lists it too, with Nickname: Prims I  (that's why I thught it was prism chipset)
[05:09] <ubuntu> I've altered xorg.cfg and then restarted but it crashes every time
[05:09] <itsdarkinhere05> hey
[05:09] <bob2> shock
[05:09] <ubuntu> even after installing xorg6.8.2
[05:09] <nmstryoda> jjazz, what happens if you do "ifconfig eth0 up"
[05:09] <nmstryoda> bob2, LOL
[05:09] <bob2> ubuntu: if you want help with the fact you broke X, you need to put your X log and X config file on the web somwehre
[05:09] <chavo> ubuntu, what video card?
[05:10] <endy_x> shadows and transparency has never crashed xorg for me on nvidia cards
[05:10] <jjazz> nmstryoda, an error I've never seen before:  SIOCSIFFLAGS: Connection timed out.
[05:10] <itsdarkinhere05> i have a dum-ass question, i just got this ubuntu thing, and i was wondering how to get aim on it
[05:10] <ubuntu> yes, I have an nvidia
[05:10] <endy_x> even with games playing etc
[05:10] <nmstryoda> ubuntu, try http://rafb.net ... it's a paste bin of sorts
[05:10] <chavo> ubuntu, have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[05:10] <transgress> itsdarkinhere05: new to linux eh?
[05:10] <nmstryoda> jjazz, well that is good
[05:10] <none_-> jjazz: SIOCSIFFLAGS is probably an error function
[05:10] <jjazz> nmstryoda, It is?  What does it mean?
[05:10] <itsdarkinhere05> ya
[05:10] <tritium> itsdarkinhere05, gaim is already there under Applications->Internet
[05:10] <nmstryoda> jjazz, lets me know eth0 is your wired port
[05:10] <transgress> itsdarkinhere05: you have it.  go to applications-internet-gaim
[05:10] <nmstryoda> which is not connected
[05:11] <itsdarkinhere05> sweet
[05:11] <tritium> itsdarkinhere05, it includes support for many protocols, including aol i.m.
[05:11] <itsdarkinhere05> thx
[05:11] <itsdarkinhere05> thx so much
[05:11] <itsdarkinhere05> later
[05:11] <transgress> we'll be here
[05:11] <none_-> in other words, the connection timed out
[05:11] <zcat[1] > hehe.. got some nice photos of my kid (age 10) cutting up firewood with the chainsaw. I'm such a responsible parent!
[05:11] <tritium> sure, itsdarkinhere05 :)
[05:11] <jjazz> nmstryoda, Do you mean wireless?  Because the GUI says eth0 is wireless, as did the guy at work who handed me the laptop
[05:12] <transgress> why would someone name eth0 as wireless
[05:12] <nmstryoda> jjazz, ah ok
[05:12] <none_-> cause it's ethernet
[05:12] <bob2> transgress: because it's an ethernet device
[05:12] <nmstryoda> well in that case, ...
[05:12] <zcat[1] > I think some cards come up as eth device names..
[05:12] <bob2> the transport just happens to be different
[05:12] <bob2> the name is driver-dependent
[05:12] <bob2> and customisable
[05:12] <jjazz> nmstryoda, There is an eth1, but that's the wired port, according to the GUI
[05:12] <nmstryoda> ok
[05:12] <nmstryoda> good
[05:13] <h17m4n> shouldn't wireless be wlan0?
[05:13] <bob2> h17m4n: no
[05:13] <nmstryoda> glad you know these things
[05:13] <nmstryoda> not always
[05:13] <nmstryoda> depends on hardware
[05:13] <jjazz> nmstryoda, I don't have much info, but it's better than none.  I really appreciate this help, btw.
[05:13] <nmstryoda> np
[05:14] <h17m4n> how do I reduce my touchpad's sensitivity? everytime I'm typing it messes me up
[05:14] <nmstryoda> jjazz, do the "ifconfig eth0 down"
[05:14] <nmstryoda> then
[05:14] <nmstryoda> dmesg
[05:14] <transgress> h17m4n: what kind of touchpad is it?
[05:15] <nmstryoda> jjazz, look for the card type
[05:15] <h17m4n> syn something
[05:15] <nmstryoda> er, lspci can show that too
[05:15] <nmstryoda> then google it
[05:15] <kev_> i'm trying to install ubuntu 5.04 on an abit nf7 mobo with a maxtor ide drive (hda) and maxtor sata drive (sada). after install it wasn't loading module sata_sil and hence /dev/sda* wasn't be created. so i added sata_sil right after the ide stuff in /etc/modules. but it still complains about the devices not existing at boot up.
[05:15] <jjazz> nmstryoda, ifdown gave no messages.  dmesg is filled with one line over and over:  hermes @ MEM [some hex] : Error -16 issuing command.
[05:15] <nmstryoda> k
[05:15] <none_-> h17m4n: check xorg.conf for the Resolution option under the mouse section
[05:16] <nmstryoda> jjazz, did you set the hostname on that laptop just now?
[05:16] <jjazz> nmstryoda, It's been set, although it might have been reset when I fiddled with the GUI.
[05:16] <nmstryoda> before logging out / back in...
[05:16] <h17m4n> synaptics - I got confused because of synaptic
[05:16] <nmstryoda> ah, yea
[05:16] <nmstryoda> LOL
[05:16] <macintoshr> how do you shut up that gnome startup sound?
[05:17] <nmstryoda> hehe
[05:17] <GhostFreeman> what's the Linux equivalent of ipconfig?
[05:17] <transgress> h17m4n: well if it does like mine and will only load it as a PS/2 mouse you're SOL, otherwise you can turn the tapping off in the xorg.conf
[05:17] <omp342> is it me or does OSS work just as good as ALSA?
[05:17] <macintoshr> ifconfig?
[05:17] <nmstryoda> ifconfig
[05:17] <jjazz> GhostFreeman, ifconfig
[05:17] <Xorlev> GhostFreeman: ifconfig
[05:17] <nmstryoda> lol
[05:17] <macintoshr> haha
[05:17] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[05:17] <nmstryoda> GhostFreeman, man ifconfig will show all...
[05:17] <none_-> h17m4n: change the Resolution option to a lower number in xorg.conf
[05:17] <bob2> GhostFreeman: ip
[05:17] <macintoshr> ifconfig = interface config
[05:17] <transgress> i still haven't figured out how it loads mine as ps/2 ... no other distro even lets me do that
[05:18] <Xorlev> omp342: I much prefer ALSA over OSS...OSS had some weird stuff with me.
[05:18] <macintoshr> how do i turn off that gnome startup sound?
[05:18] <macintoshr> the one with the bells in it
[05:18] <bob2> macintoshr: system -> preferences -> sound
[05:18] <nmstryoda> nice tunes
[05:18] <macintoshr> ok
[05:18] <nmstryoda> =)
[05:18] <macintoshr>  thanks
[05:18] <aru> how do I install something from apt if it asks for my CD and I cant find the cd?
[05:18] <bob2> aru: configure it to not ask for the cd
[05:18] <plasterfish> lol
[05:18] <Xorlev> Remove the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list and then run apt-get update, then try install again.
[05:18] <transgress> aru: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list <-- add a # in front of the line that asks for the cd
[05:19] <omp342> Xorlev: my default is OSS and i'm too lazy to change it (it sounds the same to me)
[05:19] <aru> simple enough :)
[05:19] <aru> thanks
[05:19] <transgress> OSS is actually using alsa iirc
[05:19] <koneng> i downloaded some printer drivers that were made for red hat 9. the .tar.gz contains a .gz.sh file. how can i install this?
[05:19] <bob2> koneng: why do you think you need them?
[05:19] <Madpilot> "rm -d <foo>" to delete a directory, right?
[05:19] <none_-> yeah, it's an OSS wrapper for ALSA
[05:19] <nmstryoda> jjazz, try logging out of X then starting X again...
[05:19] <none_-> unless you are using a ustom kernel
[05:19] <Xorlev> maddler: rm -rf
[05:19] <nmstryoda> then ifconfig
[05:19] <Xorlev> Err
[05:19] <transgress> Madpilot: rmdir if it's empty.  rm -rf if it isn't
[05:19] <Xorlev> Madpilot: rm -rf
[05:20] <koneng> bob2, because i can't print. i read on the forums that someone got it to work for the same printer i have
[05:20] <Madpilot> Xorlev & transgress: thanks, forgot there was a seperate 'rmdir' command...
[05:20] <jjazz> nmstryoda, ctrl-alt-bspace... and... it's loading... ok
[05:21] <Xorlev> I don't bother with rmdir. rm -rf works either way.
[05:21] <zcat[1] > rm -rf is kinda dangerous..
[05:22] <transgress> zcat[1] : how do you figure/
[05:22] <none_-> don't get in the habit of using it
[05:22] <Xorlev> With root, you could remove anything.
[05:22] <Xorlev> rm -rf /usr
[05:22] <none_-> yep, i've done that many times
[05:22] <bob2> koneng: and your printer is? and "can't print" means?
[05:22] <CCFIEL> can i know what is the application name that can be found in places menu which can connect to a shared file in windows XP?
[05:22] <Xorlev> Ctrl + CCCCC!!!!
[05:22] <Xorlev> STOP!
[05:22] <Xorlev> Bah!
[05:22] <zcat[1] > just remember that if you want to delete all the dotfiles, .* will also get ..
[05:22] <Xorlev> =)
[05:22] <none_-> lol
[05:22] <bob2> CCFIEL: there isn't one, it's calling nautilus
[05:23] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : that would be... messy... done that, have you?
[05:23] <Madpilot> ;)
[05:23] <transgress> okay
[05:23] <Xorlev> zcat, in that case I just pushd out or cd absolute path.
[05:23] <h17m4n> should linux be using 508MB of ram???  Yay for good backups!
[05:23] <Xorlev> Moral of the story: Any command can be dangerous.
[05:24] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: most of that is probably buffers and cache
[05:24] <Xorlev> h17m4n: FireFox is a infamous memory user.
[05:24] <none_-> h17m4n: yes
[05:24] <Madpilot> h17m4n: Linux will use available RAM as cache
[05:24] <thechitowncubs> !ram
[05:24] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, thechitowncubs
[05:24] <thechitowncubs> !memory
[05:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, thechitowncubs
[05:24] <none_-> the default ubuntu install starts a ton of services
[05:24] <communico> can anyone help me with configuring samba?
[05:24] <Madpilot> !cache
[05:24] <ubotu> Madpilot: No idea
[05:24] <koneng> bob2, Lexmark Z515. Sorry, "can't print" = i tried installed the drivers that were recommended(LX5000) and my printer did not respond to my efforts to print.
[05:24] <CCFIEL> bob2: ic coz im transfering to another window system xfce because my computer is low in memory. can nautilus run in xfce??
[05:24] <transgress> h17m4n: is it actually using all the memory or is some cached?  i'm betting it's cached
[05:24] <zcat[1] > Xorlev: Umm.. absolute path like ro -rf /home/zcat/.* perhaps?
[05:24] <bob2> koneng: ignorethe drivers
[05:24] <mik3> woot cubs destroyed the cards tonight =D
[05:24] <zcat[1] > err s/ro/rm/
[05:24] <bob2> koneng: when you use the gnome printing tool to set it up, what happens?
[05:25] <zcat[1] > guess what /home/zcat/.. is
[05:25] <bob2> CCFIEL: yes, but it will start lots of gnome, too
[05:25] <bob2> CCFIEL: just mount the filesystem if you're going to use it
[05:25] <h17m4n> like less than 70MB is cached
[05:25] <othernoob> are celerons good for gaming and will a 2.8ghz celeron last for the next couple of years regarding gaming?
[05:25] <Xorlev> Oooh
[05:25] <Xorlev> That could be messy.
[05:25] <h17m4n> 400+ for appz
[05:25] <transgress> hehe yeah zcat[1]  had someone that ran a hosting company do that not too long ago
[05:25] <bob2> h17m4n: paste the output of "free -m" to #flood
[05:25] <transgress> they mentioned it on the forums we talk on at work
[05:25] <CCFIEL> bob2: ok thanks
[05:25] <bob2> also, "applications", this is an English channel, not an AIM chat room
[05:26] <zcat[1] > Nah, only my home box.. and I rsync offsite every morning..
[05:26] <Xorlev> h17m4n: Xorg + GDM + FireFox + Lots of services + Cache is most likely using all your memory.
[05:26] <none_-> h17m4n: xfce4 has it's own file manager.. although not as nice as nautilus
[05:26] <none_-> functional, though
[05:26] <koneng> bob2, gnome printing tool = is that 'New Printer' option under Printing (System|Admin|Printing)?
[05:26] <h17m4n> pasted
[05:26] <bob2> koneng: yes
[05:27] <h17m4n> I'm actually running KDE now... but I have both installed(gnome)
[05:27] <nmstryoda> h17m4n, have you tried the latest kpdf?
[05:27] <jjazz> nmstryoda, Are you waiting for me, or am I waiting for you?
[05:27] <Xorlev> I removed Gnome a while ago.
[05:27] <h17m4n> nope
[05:27] <nmstryoda> h17m4n, say with TuxMagazine?
[05:27] <nmstryoda> jjazz, sorry
[05:27] <nmstryoda> what happened
[05:27] <nmstryoda> jjazz, ifconfig -a
[05:27] <i3dmaster> does anyone know how to edit the right click menu?
[05:28] <bob2> i3dmaster: in what...
[05:28] <koneng> bob2,  that's what i was talking about. It detects Z510 (instead of Z515) and recommends the LX5000, i install that. it says "5000 - Ready" but doesn't respond when i try to print something
[05:28] <jjazz> nmstryoda, np...I see eth0... should I be looking for any specific info?
[05:29] <nmstryoda> ip address?
[05:29] <jjazz> nmstryoda, none
[05:29] <i3dmaster> bob2: on the desktop, you click and it shows right click menu. I just want to add the open terminal back.
[05:29] <nmstryoda> jjazz, double-check your WEP key...
[05:29] <ells> tritium: hey Mike what is up
[05:29] <nmstryoda> like i said, mine had to be hex to work
[05:29] <h17m4n> man... konqueror crashes all the time... it's a pretty bad app to browse through ur files
[05:29] <bob2> i3dmaster: how did you get rid of it?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: you don't have a swap partition?
[05:30] <h17m4n> :-[
[05:30] <h17m4n> no
[05:30] <i3dmaster> bob2: I didn't. Gnome 2.12 did it
[05:30] <tritium> ells, wow, long time no see
[05:30] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: hmm
[05:30] <jjazz> nmstryoda, it is in hex and it is correct
[05:30] <tritium> where have you been, ells?
[05:30] <nmstryoda> k
[05:30] <i3dmaster> bob2: I upgraded to breezy
[05:30] <ells> yeap, I have been on here a few times since we last talked
[05:30] <CCFIEL> bob2: i tried to run nautilus in xfce and it load some of the gnome. how do i reset it?
[05:30] <h17m4n> I'm a noob... installed kubuntu last week
[05:30] <bob2> CCFIEL: reset what?
[05:30] <h17m4n> than installed gnome, and chroot for 32 bit apps
[05:30] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: methinks you need a swap file then
[05:30] <nmstryoda> jjazz, lets get the model from
[05:30] <nmstryoda> jjazz, lspci
[05:31] <_antix> I don't have a swap partition... yet with thunderbird, firefox, xchat, gxine, and a terminal it's only using 271mb of ram
[05:31] <h17m4n> I didn't know how big to make it
[05:31] <CCFIEL> bob2: i want to get back to my previous setting. i treid to logout and login it is still there?
[05:31] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: the install should have set up swap for you
[05:31] <tritium> ells, I'm about to reboot (testing stuff).  I'll be back later on or tomorrow, okay?
[05:31] <CCFIEL> it is still there
[05:31] <jjazz> nmstryoda, Wavelan chipset
[05:31] <h17m4n> and if it should've been before or after the linux
[05:31] <nmstryoda> ah
[05:31] <ells> cool
[05:31] <jjazz> nmstryoda, Intersil Prism 2.5 Wavelan
[05:31] <tritium> cool
[05:31] <h17m4n> I have 2 partitions.... 1 for windows and 1 for linux
[05:31] <jjazz> nmstryoda, Wavelan = Orinoco, IIRC
[05:31] <nmstryoda> jjazz, is it a dell?
[05:32] <jjazz> nmstryoda, IBM Thinkpad
[05:32] <h17m4n> I used Partition magic and created a ext3 partition
[05:32] <nmstryoda> k
[05:32] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: the position isn't important - but with ~500MB RAM you should have say 500MB swap
[05:32] <h17m4n> then set it as / on the installation
[05:32] <honza> let's say I hate Nautilus, what for alternative apps are there?
[05:33] <Xorlev> thoreauputic: Myself I follow the double swap setup...twice as much swap as ram.
[05:33] <h17m4n> thoreauputic: k... will get it done.. how will I tell ubuntu to use it though?
[05:33] <thoreauputic> Xorlev: not really necessary any more
[05:33] <nalioth> honza: konqueror, xfe, endeavour2,
[05:33] <honza> any of these for gnome?
[05:33] <nalioth> thoreauputic: howzit goin today?
[05:33] <Xorlev> thoreauputic: Old mentalities are hard to break.
[05:33] <nalioth> honza: they will all work under gnome
[05:34] <honza> well, yeah, but that's not what I'm asking about obviously :)
[05:34] <nalioth> honza: konqueror is part of kde, the other two are platform independent
[05:34] <i3dmaster> bob2: do you have any idea or does anyone have any idea?
[05:34] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: the easiest way would be to make a swap file
[05:34] <honza> ok
[05:34] <nalioth> honza: i run gnome and use konqueror instead of nautilus
[05:34] <TestDummy> Hey, will X screw up if there is a malformed entry in xorg.conf about Horizontal sync?
[05:34] <TestDummy> Like "HorizSync 30.0-70" for example.
[05:35] <Quinthius> TestDummy: how is that malformed?
[05:35] <TestDummy> It doesn't seem to take well to the .0 I accidently put in there
[05:35] <koneng> bob2, did you see my last message?
[05:35] <jjazz> TestDummy, why don't you remove it?
[05:35] <Quinthius> TestDummy: so remove the .0
[05:35] <lopingo> need help here
[05:35] <TestDummy> I know.
[05:35] <lopingo> anyoen using vmware?
[05:35] <TestDummy> This is actually for somebody I'm helping out, mine works fine.
[05:35] <lopingo> anyone*
[05:35] <mik3> how do i change my account information?
[05:35] <TestDummy> Just curious as to if that'd mess anything up
[05:35] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: bob2 might know how - I use a partition here: basically you make a file full of zeros, then mkswap <file> then swapon <file> (that may not be quite right)
[05:35] <nalioth> lopingo: ask a question, please
[05:36] <Madpilot> mik3: what info, for what acount, and where?
[05:36] <giard> anyone else having locale probs in breezy?
[05:36] <Quinthius> can i ask if it's ok for anyone to tell me it's ok to ask a question?
[05:36] <nmstryoda> jjazz, unfortunately I see some listings  prism2_pci driver or hostap driver
[05:36] <nmstryoda> so you need to see if those are available
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Quinthius: no *grin*
[05:37] <mik3> Madpilot : i want to change the information that shows up in /whois mik3 but i don't know how to do that in just bx so i want to change my shell info
[05:37] <Madpilot> Quinthius: what was your question again? ;)
[05:37] <Quinthius> :(
[05:37] <Quinthius> Madpilot: i forgot..
[05:37] <h17m4n> I found this: create partition, use 'mkswap' to init it and add this line to fstab: /dev/hdXX swap swap defaults 0 0
[05:37] <jjazz> nmstryoda, I can connect this laptop to the net via eth1, so I can get anything that's not available.  :)  How do I see if those drivers are available?
[05:37] <nmstryoda> Harris Semiconductor Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
[05:37] <nmstryoda> sound right?
[05:38] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: yes - well a partition is better in theory
[05:38] <Madpilot> mik3: you should be able to edit your IRC client's settings - but most of what shows up in /whois mik3 isn't really changeable...
[05:38] <jjazz> nmstryoda, s/Harris Semiconductor/Intersil Corporation/ and that's what I got.
[05:38] <lopingo> ok
[05:38] <nmstryoda> ok
[05:38] <nmstryoda> good
[05:38] <lopingo> anyone using vmware here?
[05:38] <nmstryoda> now i search
[05:38] <nmstryoda> yes
[05:38] <lopingo> i got a problem with the sound device
[05:38] <Xorlev> lopingo: Indeed.
[05:39] <jordan_> does anyone know the best way to get tv torrents?
[05:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> when my processor speeds up, the fan slows down and gets quiet.
[05:39] <h17m4n> thoreauputic: Thanks... I'm gonna boot to windoze and use Partition Magic to create it... doesn't matter if it's after the ext3 partition right?
[05:39] <lopingo> as usual, resource busy
[05:39] <lopingo> so, what to do?
[05:39] <jordan_> I need the oprah from today... for my girlfriend
[05:39] <Xorlev> Use ALSA.
[05:39] <nalioth> jordan_: dont ask those things in here, please
[05:39] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: that should be fine
[05:39] <Xorlev> Stop esd
[05:39] <lopingo> ALSA didnt work on my pc
[05:39] <lopingo> >.>
[05:39] <h17m4n> k thx... cya
[05:39] <nmstryoda> jordan_, google torrents... not here
[05:39] <zdennis|away> What is gam_servin ?
[05:39] <crimsun> lopingo: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:40] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: make it "linux swap" (type 82 IIRC)
[05:40] <jordan_> sorry all
[05:40] <Xorlev> You can try stopping esd.
[05:40] <lopingo> ok
[05:40] <lopingo> lemme try...
[05:40] <Xorlev> Delayed question...IIRC?
[05:40] <kev_> i'm trying to install on to an sata drive and am having serious issues. help!
[05:40] <Xorlev> kev_: Details? Errors?
[05:40] <nmstryoda> jjazz, according to the ndiswrapper page... you can do it with the ndiswrapper and a windows xp driver..
[05:41] <nmstryoda> yuck
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Xorlev: If I Remember Correctly
[05:41] <jjazz> nmstryoda, That sounds like no fun
[05:41] <kev_> Xorlev: abit nf7 mobo (nforce2 chipset) with a maxtor sata drive.
[05:41] <nmstryoda> true
[05:41] <Xorlev> thoreauputic: Makes sense.
[05:41] <nmstryoda> but it will work..
[05:41] <lopingo> Xorlev: how to stop esd?
[05:41] <jjazz> nmstryoda, Good.  Where do we start?
[05:41] <lopingo> crimsun: after that what should i do?
[05:41] <crimsun> lopingo: you need to tell me the output
[05:42] <lopingo> ok
[05:42] <kev_> Xorlev: at boot stuff starting raid (for /home only), the fs check , etc complain that /dev/md* and /dev/sd* don't exist. /dev/sd* exists only if i load module sata_sil
[05:42] <nmstryoda> jjazz, well, install the ndiswrapper stuff from the ubuntu repos
[05:42] <nmstryoda> !ndiswrapper
[05:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[05:42] <nmstryoda> =)
[05:42] <Zeals> hi all i have just installed ubuntu 5.04 im trying to get my lucent winmodem to connect to my isp by way of a dialup account, i used the lucent winmodem driver tutorial thats available to install the driver and that went ok and I can communicate with the modem and it rings the isp and gets as far as entering the user name and password and then pppd pauses and then it just disconnects with an error 10, ive tried using pppconfig and wvdial bot
[05:42] <lopingo> 0 [I82801DBICH4   ] : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
[05:42] <zdennis|away> When I start a background script in a terminal, why does it die when i kill the terminal?
[05:42] <lopingo> Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with ALC200/200P at 0xf0180000, irq 11
[05:42] <jjazz> nmstryoda, ok.  I'll let you know when that's done
[05:42] <lopingo> there
[05:42] <kev_> Xorlev: but when it bitches and drops me to a shell, i'm able to manually modprobe it and /dev/sda* shows up. so i added libata and sata_sil to /etc/modules but still no luck.
[05:42] <nmstryoda> k
[05:42] <Xorlev> kev_: You have to load a few modules early on to get SATA drives to load on boot.
[05:42] <crimsun> lopingo: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:43] <lopingo> ok
[05:43] <nmstryoda> jjazz, I should be around.. .but there are way more qualified people here...
[05:43] <crimsun> lopingo: also, what precisely is the issue?
[05:43] <nmstryoda> just in case I get bumped off
[05:43] <nmstryoda> storms in area
[05:43] <lopingo> thanks guys, i'll come back later cuz i got to go
[05:43] <kev_> Xorlev: can you suggest at what point? i tried modproving sata_sil in /etc/rcS.d/S20devicemapper... but it appers to not be early enough
[05:43] <lopingo> crimsun, i didnt stop esd
[05:43] <lopingo> ok then
[05:43] <lopingo> time to go
[05:43] <Kowboy> hello
[05:43] <lopingo> cya
[05:43] <Xorlev> I added ata_piix, libata, sd_mod, scsi_mod, and ahci (sata_sil for you I'd guess) to the front of the /etc/modules loading order.
[05:43] <benplaut> Dante money to Katrina releif and get a free hug!
[05:44] <benplaut> *Donate
[05:44] <communico> can anyone help with a network problem? samba configures fine, I can share between ubuntu and windows, but the windows cannot see the ubuntu pc
[05:44] <Kowboy> does anyone here use Ubuntu as a desktop for Java Development?
[05:44] <Xorlev> Then it would mount my SATA drive on boot.
[05:44] <crimsun> yes, Kowboy
[05:44] <zdennis_> Kowboy, yes
[05:44] <kev_> Xorlev: trying that now. thanks
[05:45] <Xorlev> Rebooting...new kernel
[05:45] <Kowboy> are there many Java-related deb packages available
[05:45] <Zeals> can anyone help me please?
[05:45] <Madpilot> !+ask
[05:45] <ubotu> ask is probably Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Remember, we're all volunteers. Please don't /msg people without permission. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html, or keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read.
[05:46] <kev_> Xorlev: still no luck.
[05:46] <Xorlev> kev_: brb, need a reboot, I'll try to help you when I get back
[05:47] <nmstryoda> Madpilot, ... like that one
[05:47] <DewDude> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/phpsysinfo
[05:47] <Zeals> ive got a lucent winmodem which dials my isp but wont stay connected past entering the login info, ive tried wvdial and pppconfig...
[05:47] <DewDude> errr
[05:47] <mik3> Madpilot : i want to change the information that shows up in /whois mik3 but i don't know how to do that in just bx so i want to change my shell info
[05:47] <jjazz> nmstryoda, ok... I got the box up with the wired connex and ndiswrapper-util installed.  I'm not sure who makes the card, so I'm not sure where to look for a Win driver.
[05:48] <nmstryoda> IBM should have it
[05:48] <nmstryoda> if it came wih the device
[05:48] <Kowboy> I have a choice to make, which mainly boils down to deb vs rpm
[05:48] <nmstryoda> jjazz, that ver 1 is important too
[05:48] <Kowboy> I will have to package some of my own Java apps/libs
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Zeals: sounds like an authorisation issue - do you know what protocol your ISP uses? pap? chap?
[05:48] <nmstryoda> jjazz, hopefully the driver is out there as a zip or tar
[05:48] <Madpilot> mik3: you mean /whois here on IRC? you should be able to change your name in your IRC client's configs; the rest you can't really do anything about, it's freenode's stuff...
[05:48] <Kowboy> and it helps if I already have a good set of Java packages to start from (like jpackage)
[05:49] <koneng> i have a storage drive that i would like to be able to read/write files to from both winXP and linux. is there a filesystem besides FAT32 that I can use?
[05:49] <Zeals> thoreauputic: PAP
[05:49] <thoreauputic> Zeals: and you specified that in pppconfig of course?
[05:49] <Zeals> thoreauputic: yup
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Zeals: anything weird in /var/syslog when you dial up?
[05:51] <Zeals> thor: nope pppd exits with an error 10 though
[05:51] <Cashel> howdies
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Zeals: soory I meant /var/log/syslog
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Zeals: I don't know what error 10 is - google might know - try entering the error
[05:53] <riesco> hello people
[05:53] <jorgp2> how does a sempron compare to an XP
[05:53] <Zeals> thoreauputic: I checked the man pages something about not getting far enough in the process to receive any IP packets from the isp
[05:53] <aru> Sempron sounds cooler!
[05:53] <nalioth> jorgp2: like a celeron to a Pentium 4
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Zeals: hmm - sorry I don't think I can help - have you tried talking to your ISP or are they Linux unfriendly?
[05:54] <jorgp2> nalioth is a sempron that much slower then an XP?
[05:55] <Zeals> thoreauputic: yeah I have the linux guy they have is away till tommorrow though, thought I would try elsewhere
[05:55] <Cashel> Zeals, dialup issue?
[05:55] <thoreauputic> Zeals: fair enough
[05:55] <JRlinux> ? sempron is a cpu; XP is an operating system.  Apples /oranges
[05:55] <dreamie> why is ubuntu unregged
[05:55] <Zeals> cashel: yup...so close...yet so far
[05:55] <jorgp2> JRlinux: no Athlon XP
[05:56] <Cashel> Zeals, had a lot of problems myself... whats yours?
[05:56] <JRlinux> Jorgp2... Oh, sorry.
[05:56] <Madpilot> JRlinux: Athlon XP - tho AMD should have picked a better name for their CPUs...
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: XP makes me think "Xtreme Problems" ;-)
[05:57] <Zeals> Cashel: modem and isp wont establish a TCP/IP connection, get as far as entering the login info
[05:57] <JRlinux> I have been told that Semprons are faster than Celerons.  I don't know.  They are AMD's cheaper CPUs
[05:57] <nalioth> jorgp2: the sempron lacks the l2 memory of an XP (semprons are meant for low end/entry machines, XP for enthusuiasts/high end)
[05:58] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: heh. they're good CPUs, though - I like the XP-M I'm running right now
[05:58] <kevogod> XPs are going the way of the Dodo.
[05:58] <Cashel> Zeals, chap? pap? login? tried all 3 ways?
[05:58] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I was thinking of The Other Operating System :)
[05:58] <jorgp2> well, trying to find a replacement for this Athlon XP 3200+, although can not find 3200s anymore
[05:59] <Zeals> Cashel: im pretty sure they use PAP but I guess anythings worth a try at this stage
[05:59] <Cashel> whats plog say when it fails?? put it on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[05:59] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: I know - I prefer not to think of that Other OS, though... ;)
[06:00] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: :)
[06:00] <Zeals> Cashel: plog? sorry linux newbie here
[06:00] <Cashel> plog is basicaly tail /var/log/syslog ... its the error out put...
[06:01] <Cashel> type it after you try to dial and it fails...
[06:01] <kevogod> jorgp2, http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=586899&Sku=CP2-XP32004BC&SRCCODE=GOOPROD&CMP=OTC-FROOGLE
[06:01] <kevogod> jorgp2, 400 MHz FSB
[06:02] <kevogod> jorgp2, http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AX3200-333&c=fr&pid=0e3027987e06e3641b5f0dacd4babc532baad064d68f265868f18f0b06f08ec7
[06:02] <jorgp2> well, it was running at 333, using pc2700 ram
[06:02] <kevogod> jorgp2, 333 MHz FSB
[06:02] <DewDude> does anyone know how i can fix the canonical hostname with phpsysinfo?
[06:02] <DewDude> like..make it appear properly
[06:02] <h17m4n> How do I check where the Linux Swap partition I just made is? I need it to mkswap
[06:03] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any suggestions for a gnome based C++ dev app (ie, color coding... indenting properly... etc)
[06:03] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: sudo fdisk -l
[06:03] <Zeals> oh ok bbs then, go do that, actually not sure I can paste it to that site, cant seem to save stuff to the floppy drive for some reason
[06:03] <Cashel> Zeals, you dual booting?
[06:03] <Zeals> gives me invalid parameters errors
[06:03] <Zeals> Cashel: yup
[06:03] <Cashel> plog > /mnt/fat32mpoint/plog.txt
[06:04] <Cashel> if its ntfs tho your screwed, heh...
[06:04] <Zeals> :/
[06:04] <jorgp2> kevogod: thanks, I looked at ewiz.com, but I need a retail proc, not oem
[06:04] <Cashel> Zeals, infact wait
[06:04] <Zeals> actually one of the partitions is fat
[06:05] <Cashel> you dotn need to reboot hold on one second
[06:05] <Zeals> k
[06:05] <kevogod> jorgp2, Yea, finding a Retail 333FSB 3200+ may be hard.
[06:05] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: actually the sudo is not necessary I just realised
[06:06] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any suggestions for a gnome based C++ dev app (ie, color coding... indenting properly... etc)
[06:06] <Cashel> Zeals, http://www.nuked.gr/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=217  use this to get your /var/log/syslog into windows as a text file ..
[06:07] <Zeals> righto i'll check it out, tq
[06:07] <Madpilot> jorgp2: a lot of retailers will set "OEM" stuff to people who aren't strictly speaking OEM  buyers...
[06:07] <Zeals> ta
[06:07] <h17m4n> cool.... it's /dev/hda6.... now I'm trying to figure out how to use mkswap
[06:07] <jorgp2> Madpilot: I know, but I want the 3 year warranty from AMD
[06:08] <zdennis_> i've got a samba share, that says, I am the only valid user, the share is writeable, (and I own the contents on the system locally), and I tell it to force the user and group to me. However, when I connect from another Debian box the user/group is "root:root"
[06:08] <zdennis_> Anyone have any ideas/
[06:08] <zdennis_> ?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: just  sudo mkswap /dev/hda6  as far as I know
[06:08] <nalioth> jorgp2: it's all about the money
[06:09] <jorgp2> plus by the time you bought a heatsink and fan, might as well get a retail that comes with it
[06:10] <zdennis_> no one has a clue?
[06:10] <Madpilot> jorgp2: most of the retail CPUs I've seen around here don't come with a heatsink or fan anyway, AFAIK...
[06:10] <Madpilot> zdennis_: asked on #samba yet?
[06:10] <kevogod> jorgp2, AMD retails do...
[06:10] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: you will need an /etc/fstab entry as well - but I think you mentioned that already
[06:10] <kevogod> err Madpilot
[06:10] <h17m4n> yeah
[06:11] <h17m4n> I just did that
[06:11] <thoreauputic> cool
[06:11] <zdennis_> i haven't...wsa hoping some other folks here would have a clue =)
[06:11] <h17m4n> should I restart or its not needed?
[06:11] <zdennis_> i will go to the source though
[06:11] <jorgp2> according to AMD tech support, ALL AMD retails come with AMD approved heatsink and fan
[06:11] <thoreauputic> not needed
[06:11] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: do sudo swapon -a
[06:11] <kevogod> I have never not seen an AMD Retail box that did not include a heatsink and fan.
[06:11] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: that should turn it on
[06:11] <jorgp2> if they dont, then its not a retail version
[06:12] <Cashel> who buys retail? :P
[06:12] <Madpilot> jorgp2: mine was OEM, but I really was buying the whole system at the time anyway...
[06:12] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: then run  free -m  again and you should see a number for swap
[06:12] <h17m4n> swapon: cannot stat /dev/hd6: No such file or directory
[06:12] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: on the bottom line of the free -m output
[06:13] <jorgp2> I need the 3 year warranty instead of the 90 day warranty
[06:13] <jorgp2> it is for a customer
[06:13] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: you ran mkswap on it?
[06:13] <Madpilot> h17m4n: hda6 - check your spelling!
[06:13] <thoreauputic> aha
[06:13] <Cashel> hmm maybe ... mkswap -v1 -L label /dev/hda6  .. then swapon label?
[06:13] <Cashel> oh
[06:13] <Cashel> hehe
[06:13] <kevogod> Cashel, People buy retail because they are typically only a few dollars more.
[06:13] <thoreauputic> :) thanks Madpilot - missed that one!
[06:14] <kevogod> Cashel, This gives you the warranty and some 'extras'.
[06:14] <h17m4n> I ran this: sudo mkswap /dev/hda6
[06:14] <Cashel> kevogod, not here they arent... hehe
[06:14] <h17m4n> I think I messed up in the fstab
[06:14] <h17m4n> let me fix it
[06:14] <Cashel> true
[06:14] <Talim> hello, can someone please give me a little bit of help?
[06:15] <nalioth> Talim: ask your question
[06:15] <Cashel> Talim, ask away if they know they'll answer....
[06:15] <thoreauputic> Talim: not unless you ask something :)
[06:15] <h17m4n> :-) yeah that was it
[06:15] <Cashel> *sage nod*
[06:15] <Talim> I'm very new to this, i'm having trouble trying to compile something
[06:15] <h17m4n> free -m pasted in floog
[06:15] <h17m4n> flood*
[06:15] <Madpilot> compiling what?
[06:15] <Talim> NdisWrapper
[06:16] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: congrats
[06:16] <h17m4n> used mem didnt go down 8-|
[06:16] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: you have swap!
[06:16] <h17m4n> thanks for your help!!
[06:16] <thoreauputic> no worries
[06:16] <Madpilot> np
[06:16] <h17m4n> :)
[06:16] <Talim> Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build;
[06:16] <Talim>   give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[06:16] <Talim> make[1] : *** [prereq_check]  Error 1
[06:17] <Talim> that's what i'm getting
[06:17] <h17m4n> Talim
[06:17] <h17m4n> I'm a noob
[06:17] <h17m4n> but I'll give you a good howto
[06:17] <h17m4n> h/o
[06:17] <Talim> ok
[06:17] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: look at the second line - the relevant bits are  257        238  <---
[06:17] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: that looks much better than before
[06:18] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: previously   -/+ buffers/cache:        431         64
[06:19] <thoreauputic> h17m4n:  now :  -/+ buffers/cache:        257        238
[06:19] <Zeals> Cashel: I installed the program and got syslog into windows, you me to paste just the relevant bits from it? anything else?
[06:20] <Cashel> Zeals, everything from the [ppp]  bits on... and dont paste it in here, use that url in the topic....
[06:20] <Zeals> yup ok..
[06:20] <h17m4n> Talim: this http://www.cis.ksu.edu/~aruljohn/debian/
[06:20] <h17m4n> just follow the Wireless using ndiswrapper part
[06:20] <Talim> thank you :)
[06:20] <h17m4n> that's what helped me
[06:21] <h17m4n> np
[06:21] <wizo> Seveas: i managed to grab the java package that day, thanks
[06:21] <Cashel> Zeals, this isnt a win modem is it? :)
[06:22] <Cashel> oh no, you said it gets to the login point, nm, heh..
[06:22] <h17m4n> thoreauputic: cool... thought the top bits were it... the system feels faster now
[06:22] <Zeals> CasheL: pasted...yup Lucent chipset
[06:22] <Cashel> pasted to where? what url?
[06:22] <Zeals> the one you stated
[06:22] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: linux uses as much RAM as it can - more efficient - but the second line is the one to look at to see how much is free
[06:22] <h17m4n> Talim: you don't need the 64 bit drivers if you're using a 32-bit system(I think you know it)
[06:23] <Cashel> Zeals, yes yes, but after you pasted it it send you to the page it puts it on, there will be a number after that url
[06:23] <Talim> yeah, i know what drivers i need
[06:23] <Talim> i hope i can get them
[06:23] <h17m4n> ohh
[06:23] <Talim> not sure if i got a windows cd laying around
[06:23] <h17m4n> what card?
[06:23] <Talim> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2005-March/006192.html
[06:24] <Talim> that basically gave me what i needed to know
[06:24] <Zeals> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1980  ??
[06:24] <Cashel> yup thanks, wait one
[06:24] <nalioth> Talim: or a manufacturers CD?
[06:24] <ikkys> hi folks, how do i use apt-get to know if an *ftp program is install?
[06:24] <Zeals> Cashel: k
[06:24] <overture> how well does 64bit ubuntu work?
[06:25] <Talim> the win xp cd
[06:25] <h17m4n> stable
[06:25] <Cashel> Zeals, are you connecting with pon?
[06:25] <Talim> i dont have a manufacturers cd
[06:25] <odat> hello everyone
[06:25] <Talim> acer wasn't that nice to me
[06:25] <beekay> iis there any particular reason that my xmms mp4 plugin doesnt seem to be working?  do i have to do anything else to it other than apt-get install?
[06:25] <Zeals> Cashel: yup and ive tried wvdial as well
[06:25] <h17m4n> overture: but there's some apps you might use that are not available in 64 bit
[06:25] <odat> can anyone help me setup up file roller to unrar files?
[06:25] <h17m4n> like 64 bit flash
[06:26] <nalioth> odat: install unrar-nonfree
[06:26] <D1> odat, install unrar
[06:26] <h17m4n> I had to make a chroot to run 32 bit firefox + 32 bit flash
[06:26] <overture> ah, lame
[06:26] <overture> well, then again, flash blows
[06:26] <odat> nalioth: when i install unrar-free  file roller still doesn't work it doesn't seem to recongize that i installed it
[06:26] <overture> h17m4n, might you know what other commonly used stuff isn't available?
[06:26] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any suggestions for a gnome based C++ syntax highlighting text editor?
[06:26] <h17m4n> well... let's hope macromedia makes a 64-bit flash player
[06:27] <nalioth> odat: does ark work?
[06:27] <h17m4n> hmmm
[06:27] <Quinthius> Bad_Magic: i think gedit can...
[06:27] <Madpilot> Bad_Magic: I think Screem works with C++
[06:27] <Quinthius> Bad_Magic: and i'm sure gvim can
[06:27] <Bad_Magic> gedit is ok, but not great...
[06:27] <Bad_Magic> trying the others now
[06:27] <Cashel> you getting msgs zeals?
[06:27] <odat> not sure someone had me compile something from http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm  but i can't remember which file or how i did it
[06:28] <h17m4n> most things I use are available
[06:28] <Cashel> dont know the freenode modes well enough to tell, heh...
[06:28] <vanberge> would anybody be able to point me in the general direction of having GL work on my video card?  nvidia geforce 6200, 128 meg
[06:28] <vanberge> thanks in advance!
[06:28] <h17m4n> overture: there's there's this thread which you could request apps to be turned into 64-bit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48905
[06:29] <Cashel> !tell vanberge about nvidia
[06:29] <nalioth> odat: be careful compiling stuff you aren't sure of
[06:29] <overture> h17m4n, thanks
[06:29] <overture> h17m4n, do you know if ati drivers work decently well?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> odat,  what are you wanting to compile anyway?
[06:29] <vanberge> thanks guys!!
[06:29] <Bad_Magic> madpilot: any idfea where to get the tagtree for C++?
[06:29] <Cashel> no prob :)
[06:29] <beekay> is anyone else having trouple with xmms-mp4 plugin
[06:29] <odat> dr_willis: an unrar program for file roller to use
[06:30] <h17m4n> well
[06:30] <h17m4n> I installed the fglrx drivers
[06:30] <Madpilot> Bad_Magic: for Screem? isn't it included by default? (I don't program, just use Screem for XHTML/CSS/PHP...)
[06:30] <zdennis_> well Madpilot the samba channel is pretty quiet
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> odat,  theres one in the apt sources I do belive. ive used rar all the time and never needd to compule it.
[06:30] <h17m4n> overture: and I was able to play UT2004 demo
[06:30] <zdennis_> ...and from googling, it looks like this has happened frequently on ubuntu systems
[06:30] <Bad_Magic> screem seems to be webdev only =\
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> odat,  or you can use wine and winrar :P  for some of the newest rar atchives.
[06:30] <h17m4n> the glxgears FPS went up like 7X
[06:31] <thoreauputic> Bad_Magic: anjuta ?
[06:31] <Madpilot> Bad_Magic: just checked, you're right, there's no C++ tag tree for Screem by default. ask google?
[06:31] <thoreauputic> !info anjuta
[06:31] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-6ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 843 kB, Installed size: 2048 kB
[06:31] <kevogod> overture, I was able to play Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne through WINE.
[06:31] <zdennis_> Anyone here ever have a problem where everything was owned by root.root when you mounted a samba share?
[06:31] <odat> dr_willis hmmm the unrar-free one in the archive doesn't seem to work with file-roller
[06:31] <Bad_Magic> anjuta we shall try
[06:31] <Cashel> h17m4n, how many fps you get?
[06:31] <thoreauputic> Bad_Magic: it's an IDE
[06:31] <h17m4n> is WINE just an older version of winex?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> odat,  no idea about the file-roller bit. i never use file-roller. its simple enough to use the shell.
[06:31] <overture> kevogod, on amd64?
[06:31] <Bad_Magic> if i can set it to use g++ i dont care
[06:31] <Bad_Magic> =x
[06:31] <h17m4n> Cashel: I got 1300.... someother user with a machine like mine got 1700
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> h17m4n,  winex has been renamed to cedega. its a 'comercial' product with better ga,me support.
[06:32] <kevogod> overture, On 32-bit Ubuntu + AMD64
[06:32] <h17m4n> that's on a laptop though
[06:32] <Zeals> Cashel: ive replied to ya messages
[06:32] <Cashel> Zeals, hmm I didnt get any
[06:32] <odat> dr_willis: i'm still crossing over so file-roller is good for me right now
[06:32] <overture> kevogod, oh
[06:32] <h17m4n> Cashel: yours?
[06:32] <kevogod> h17m4n, WINE pretty well.
[06:32] <Cashel> h17m4n, 2000 ish in glxgears
[06:32] <h17m4n> wow
[06:32] <kevogod> h17m4n, works pretty
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> odat,   it may be that fileroller needs to be configured better. check the wikis yet?
[06:33] <Cashel> Zeals, gonna have to paste em on that website then I guess
[06:33] <h17m4n> Cashel: what config?
[06:33] <Cashel> Zeals, its mostly the chatscript I want...
[06:33] <Tartaros> chavo: tried the cervisia, looks good
[06:33] <Zeals> Cashel: i found something a bit more informative to do with wvdial in the syslog, ya want that?
[06:34] <kevogod> I get 85 FPS in glxgears.
[06:34] <omp342> wine+photoshop=lots of problems :)
[06:34] <h17m4n> how?
[06:34] <Cashel> h17m4n, ubuntu 5.04 , amd athlon 2200+, 512 meg ram, radeon 9600 pro w/ 256 meg ram.... fglrx driver...
[06:34] <chavo> Tartaros, cool
[06:34] <omp342> kevogod: that is very bad :/
[06:34] <h17m4n> hmmm
[06:34] <Cashel> Zeals, sure why not, dontk now wvdial at all tho
[06:34] <kevogod> omp342, No, not if it is synced.
[06:34] <Bad_Magic> how do you check the fps in glxgears?
[06:34] <kevogod> omp342, :-)
[06:34] <omp342> i get 3500fps in glxgears :)
[06:35] <Cashel> nice :)
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Bad_Magic: run from a terminal
[06:35] <omp342> + im on an ATI card =/
[06:35] <Cashel> although I have firefox open, prob slows it down some :)
[06:35] <kevogod> omp342, Try syncing
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> when my card ramps up im at like 5400
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> heh
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Bad_Magic: it outputs ther
[06:35] <h17m4n> Cashel: I'm using K/Ubuntu 5.04 AMD64, Athlon 64 3200+, 512 megs, Mobility Radeon 9600 64 megs VRAM
[06:35] <omp342> kevogod: i would if i knew how :P
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> 25749 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5149.800 FPS
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> 24228 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4845.600 FPS
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> 25298 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5059.600 FPS
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> ^^
[06:35] <omp342> nice
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> amd laptop card
[06:35] <h17m4n> what card?
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> 9700 mobility
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> or is it 9600
[06:36] <Bad_Magic> i forget
[06:36] <kevogod> That is pretty sick
[06:36] <Toba> !tell me about identd
[06:36] <h17m4n> how?
[06:36] <omp342> i got about ~4500 in gentoo, i get ~3500 in ubuntu
[06:36] <Toba> !tell me about services
[06:36] <Bad_Magic> p4 2.8 HT and a gig of ram
[06:36] <Talim> :( where am i gonna get these drivers?
[06:36] <Bad_Magic> dun ask me
[06:36] <Bad_Magic> =P
[06:36] <Toba> ;(
[06:36] <Cashel> 8278 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1655.600 FPS :( .. but then I'm in dual head mode too...
[06:36] <kevogod> I get around ~1800 in Gentoo, ~1200-1400 in Ubuntu
[06:36] <omp342> Bad_Magic: =o
[06:36] <Toba> !tell me about wireless
[06:36] <kevogod> (unsynced)
[06:36] <omp342> Bad_Magic: i have a radeon 9800 pro and i only get 3500fps
[06:37] <Zeals> Cashel: sent it
[06:37] <Cashel> Zeals, url?
[06:37] <chavo> just make the glxgears window smaller to get more fps :)
[06:37] <Cashel> thatd be cheating, hehe
[06:37] <omp342> my computer apps teacher is retarded :)
[06:37] <chavo> or fullscreen it to kill them
[06:37] <h17m4n> hmmm some dude with the same laptop as mine got 2000 fps... but his cpu is a 3000+, mine is a 3200+
[06:37] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[06:37] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:38] <chavo> 73847 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14769.400 FPS
[06:38] <odat> would anyone be able to help me compile this thing?
[06:38] <omp342> my computer apps teacher thinks that by changing theme from windows classic to windows xp you change from windows 2000 to windows xp
[06:38] <Zeals> Cashel: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1981
[06:38] <thoreauputic> !tell Toba about wifi
[06:38] <h17m4n> how do I tweak fglrx?
[06:38] <thoreauputic> !fglrx
[06:38] <ubotu> [fglrx]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:38] <Toba> Thazza: uh
[06:39] <Toba> I was just finding the wiki url for that
[06:39] <kevogod> What's better and why? Bluefish vs. Screem
[06:39] <Cashel> hmm your not using chat at all Zeals ?
[06:39] <Toba> I need to know about identd not wireless
[06:39] <wizo> so hmm i installed java debian package but i still cant get the plugins to work, any ideas?
[06:40] <wizo> plugins for firefox*
[06:40] <Cashel> Zeals, so wheres that chatscript and peers file?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> !info oidentd
[06:40] <ubotu> oidentd: (Replacement ident daemon), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.0.7-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 41 kB, Installed size: 176 kB
[06:40] <h17m4n> Should I do this command: install-radeon-debian.sh
[06:40] <Zeals> Cashel: where do I find those?
[06:41] <Madpilot> !tell wizo about java
[06:41] <Cashel> Zeals, /etc/chatscripts/provider (or ISP name, whatever you set it as) and /etc/ppp/peers/provider (again, ISP name)
[06:41] <Bad_Magic> anyone know WTF is making this dinging noise in gnome?
[06:41] <kevogod> wizo, Why did you install a Java debian package?
[06:41] <gabu> oi, tudo bom?
[06:42] <h17m4n> no portuguese
[06:42] <gabu> ups... sory
[06:42] <h17m4n> mas se quizer eu traduzo :-P
[06:42] <Cashel> Zeals, do /join #pppd
[06:42] <gabu>  :)
[06:42] <h17m4n> :)
[06:43] <wizo> coz, i kinda stuffed up and then i think i downloaded another one which is a debian
[06:43] <gabu> meu cd no quer abrir..
[06:43] <gabu> meu drive de cd.......
[06:43] <h17m4n> ta instalando alguma coisa?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> gabu: /j #ubuntu-pt
[06:44] <wizo> and er, i have been to the wiki site
[06:44] <h17m4n> gabu, vai pra esse canal: #ubuntu-pt
[06:44] <thoreauputic> guys, english here - take it elsewhere
[06:44] <wizo> but my firefox still doesnt work
[06:44] <kevogod> !tell wizo about backports
[06:44] <h17m4n> 64 bit?
[06:45] <evader> just upgraded to breezy. restarted, and X won't start 'no screens found'
[06:45] <gabu> thanks so much....
[06:45] <evader> do i need to redo the nvidia or something???
[06:45] <gabu> glad to be here...
[06:45] <Cashel> evader, vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf ....
[06:46] <deFrysk> evader, perhaps, try it
[06:46] <Zeals> Cashel:http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1982
[06:46] <Cashel> mk
[06:46] <evader> yep, i did apt-get install nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings
[06:46] <vanberge> ok...  anybody had trouble with nvidia glx?  i.e. very dark, cant see colors, barely see screen, etc ???
[06:46] <Zeals> try nother country :)
[06:46] <deFrysk> no need to vi vim nano yet
[06:46] <evader> it didn't want to upgrade
[06:46] <evader> like
[06:46] <evader> it was already installed
[06:46] <evader> so.. do i remove it first?
[06:46] <Cashel> Zeals, join #pppd
[06:47] <evader> or..oops.. change my kernel symlink to the new breezy kernel, then install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings?
[06:47] <deFrysk> evader, if nvdia-glx = installed sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:48] <deFrysk> evader you got the driver from nvidia.com ?
[06:48] <evader> nah i just used apt-get
[06:48] <evader> i think it upgraded
[06:48] <deFrysk> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:48] <deFrysk> then restart x
[06:48] <evader> what's best way to restart x remotely?
[06:48] <h17m4n> Cashel: What gart are you using?
[06:49] <vanberge> deFrysk, i just did that on my machine, and the monitor was very dark, could not hardly even see.. absolutely unusable.  ever heard of that ?
[06:49] <wizo> kevogod: i already have that back port
[06:49] <h17m4n> Ok so gabu's problem is that the CD drive won't eject, any guesses?
[06:49] <vanberge> h17m4n,  umount /dev/cdrom   ?
[06:49] <deFrysk> vandbold nvidia-card ? (tnt) ?
[06:50] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: I set /usr/bin/eject suid root
[06:50] <deFrysk> vanberge, that is
[06:50] <thoreauputic> h17m4n:  sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/eject
[06:50] <phenotype> anyone know if ubuntu/gnome supports ATI rage 128 PRo T.V.
[06:50] <Cashel> h17m4n, internal I believe
[06:50] <vanberge> deFrysk, geforce 6200 128 meg ddr
[06:50] <deFrysk> evader, not sure , init 2 then init 5 ?
[06:51] <deFrysk> what runlevel is x in ubuntu ?
[06:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> 2->5
[06:51] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: normally 2
[06:52] <robertbb> What's the gnome-app-install thing in breezy?
[06:52] <Cashel> h17m4n,   Option "UseInternalAGPGART"         "yes"
[06:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> robertbb: pardon?
[06:53] <fivetwentysix> So what's this new webget ?
[06:53] <h17m4n> Option 		"UseInternalAGPGART" 	"no"
[06:53] <deFrysk> webget ?
[06:53] <h17m4n> hmm
[06:53] <robertbb> Kamping_Kaiser, I'm looking at screenshots for Breezy on OSDIR.. there is an application I have not seen before
[06:53] <fivetwentysix> It was a ubuntu update?
[06:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> what is it fivetwentysix?
[06:53] <robertbb> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=430&slide=23
[06:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> robertbb: it's a basic synaptic from what i can see
[06:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> *looks at it*
[06:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> but based on the menus, not package lists
[06:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> fivetwentysix: i don't see a webget
[06:55] <robertbb> hmm.. yeah.
[06:55] <fivetwentysix> ok nevermind
[06:55] <Myrtti> wget?
[06:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> kaiser@ROMMEL:~ $ dpkg --get-selections |grep webget
[06:55] <Myrtti> I updated wget just half and hour ago
[06:56] <Talim> what do i do with an rpm package?
[06:56] <h17m4n> Gabu said it didn't work.... how can he force to eject?
[06:56] <Myrtti> do you want to install it?
[06:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Talim: alien -i
[06:56] <Myrtti> fivetwentysix: what about wget?
[06:56] <Tartaros> chavo: btw is there a way to save the password for the cvs (ssh authentification)so that I would not have to retype it every time?
[06:56] <fivetwentysix> I was asking about it
[06:56] <Talim> ok, so i go into my console and do alien -i name.rpm?
[06:56] <fivetwentysix> Looks like no one here has any idea
[06:56] <fivetwentysix> so nevermind :-0
[06:56] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: is the drive in use ?  lsof | grep /dev/cdrom
[06:56] <Myrtti> fivetwentysix: what are you asking about it
[06:56] <faiper> how to install DVDRIP ?
[06:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Talim: sudo alien -i rpmpackage.RPM
[06:56] <nalioth> Talim: use alien
[06:56] <fivetwentysix> what's it do?
[06:57] <Talim> thx ;)
[06:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[06:57] <chavo> Tartaros, yes there is, but I honestly can't remember how I did it
[06:57] <chavo> It was a long time ago
[06:57] <Myrtti> it's a console line tool to download stuff via http-protocol
[06:57] <deFrysk> Talim, where do you need an rpm package for ?
[06:57] <chavo> also it's not very secure
[06:57] <omp342> ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[06:57] <omp342> :)
[06:57] <omp342> i need something to do :)
[06:57] <omp342> someone give me an idea
[06:57] <h17m4n> no
[06:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> omp342: have lunch :)
[06:57] <Myrtti> wget can be configured to download whole directories recursively etc.
[06:57] <omp342> Kamping_Kaiser: it's 10pm :)
[06:57] <Myrtti> very nice tool
[06:57] <h17m4n> thoreauputic: he said it's a cd with pictures in it
[06:58] <Tartaros> well was it inside cvs, inside ssh, or inside the gui thingy? :)
[06:58] <omp342> Kamping_Kaiser: even though it is a good idea
[06:58] <Myrtti> I use it all the time
[06:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> omp342: speak for yourself :)
[06:58] <omp342> :)
[06:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's 2pm here ;)
[06:58] <Talim> i was installing pyslsk
[06:58] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: yes, but that doesn't answer my question :)
[06:58] <faiper> hi
[06:58] <faiper> how to install DVDRIP ?
[06:58] <Myrtti> fivetwentysix: it's so popular it's been ported to Windows
[06:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> faiper: apt.
[06:58] <deFrysk> Talim, install nicotine iso using pyslsk
[06:58] <deFrysk> nicotine is in the repos
[06:58] <Talim> hmm ok
[06:58] <nalioth> faiper: use synaptic
[06:58] <GioSico> Hello Everyone ... I just installed two new harddrives ... I plan to do Raid1 with them ... but I am not sure if I need to mount them and format them first ... and if so not exactly sure how to find them ... I am looking in /dev/h* and see hda hda1 2 5 etc ... Could anyone give me some direction?
[06:58] <Talim> *confused*
[06:59] <deFrysk> iso = in stead of
[06:59] <Madpilot> faiper: search Synaptic
[06:59] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: he can try this:  sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom
[06:59] <Myrtti> he was quick
[06:59] <faiper> Os pacotes a seguir tm dependncias desencontradas:
[06:59] <faiper>   dvdrip: Depende: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) mas no vai ser instalado
[06:59] <faiper> it's broked
[06:59] <deFrysk> Talim, nicotine is the opens source klone of pyslsk
[06:59] <faiper> transcode (>= 2:0.6.14)
[06:59] <Tartaros> chavo, dont you at least remember, was it inside cvs, inside ssh, or inside the gui thingy? :)
[06:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> faiper: check the wiki or ubuntuguid
[06:59] <thoreauputic> h17m4n: then eject /dev/cdrom or whatever
[06:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> e
[06:59] <h17m4n> thoreauputic: K, I'll tell him
[07:00] <nalioth> Kamping_Kaiser: please dont blindly recommend the 'guide
[07:00] <chavo> Tartaros, it's a ssh thing
[07:00] <Orborde> I'm setting up a 32bit chroot. Can I use ln to link to the passwd file, etc. in my chroot32/etc/ instead of copying the files outright?
[07:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> nalioth, it's in there isnt it?
[07:00] <h17m4n> how do I disable the kernell gart?
[07:00] <Cashel> GioSico, /dev/hda# are the partitions of the primary master (/dev/hda) ... /dev/hdd# are the partitions on the secondary slave....
[07:01] <h17m4n> !ntfs
[07:01] <Tartaros|ubuntu> chavo, ok, willt ry
[07:01] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[07:01] <Cashel> GioSico, I know absolutely nothing about raid. but fdisk -l might tell you what you need to know about which it is...
[07:01] <GioSico> thanks Cashel ... the harddrives are new and there are two of them ... I have not partitioned them ... or mounted them .. how do I know which go with which etc
[07:01] <GioSico> ok thanks
[07:01] <Cashel> GioSico, you dont know what controller you plugged them into?
[07:02] <GioSico> not the model number etc ... I think I plugged each on into a seperate controller ...
[07:02] <chavo> Tartaros, ssh in to the server -> mkdir -p .ssh -> then put your public key into a file called "authorized_keys"
[07:02] <faiper>  dvdrip: Depends: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) but it is not installable
[07:02] <GioSico> there were two comming off the mother board
[07:02] <ricardo> hi all
[07:02] <chavo> inside the .ssh directory of course
[07:02] <GioSico> one to the existing hard drive and one to the dvd drive ... so I put on one each of those
[07:02] <Orborde> I'm setting up a 32bit chroot. Can I use ln to link to the passwd file, etc. in my chroot32/etc/ instead of copying the files outright?
[07:03] <Cashel> GioSico, kind of an important thing to know.... are these regular hard drives? SATA? SCSI?
[07:03] <h17m4n> Cashel, do you know how to disable the kernell gart?
[07:03] <GioSico> o sorry ide
[07:03] <Madpilot> faiper: do you have Universe/Multiverse repos enabled?
[07:03] <GioSico> not sata or scci
[07:03] <Cashel> h17m4n, no idea.. is it a good idea to do so?
[07:03] <citrus_> hi guys       how stable is the realease 4 of the breezy cd?
[07:03] <GioSico> fdisk -l or -1 does not do anything ... did I get it wrong?
[07:03] <benplaut> to make a deb, "sudo make checkinstall", right?
[07:04] <h17m4n> to use the internal gart, it says I have to disable the kernell one
[07:04] <Cashel> GioSico, fdisk -l as in L , should work.... are you in linux?
[07:04] <deFrysk> citrus_, plenty stable (for me that is)
[07:04] <GioSico> ubuntu
[07:04] <benplaut> i'm getting a "make: *** No rule to make target `checkinstall'.  Stop."
[07:04] <Cashel> GioSico, I mean right now, at this moment?
[07:04] <thoreauputic> benplaut: usualy just sudo checkinstall ( it installs automatically)
[07:04] <benplaut> ahh
[07:04] <benplaut> thanks
[07:04] <Cashel> GioSico, oh I know, duh... sudo fdisk -l :)
[07:05] <faiper> Madpilot, yes
[07:05] <GioSico> well the box to my right is ubuntu :) linux ... fdisk -L as in -l does nothing returns to cmmmand prompt
[07:05] <GioSico> o sudo
[07:05] <chavo> Tartaros, did you get that?
[07:05] <benplaut> thoreauputic, command not found
[07:05] <vanberge> anybody had problems getting nvidia glx to work correctly?
[07:05] <citrus_> is it slower then hoary?
[07:05] <GioSico> thats a start
[07:05] <Madpilot> faiper: transcode should be in there
[07:05] <Cashel> yeah.. always forgetting this root buisness, since sudo passwd root whas the first command I typed on this install, heh...
[07:05] <thoreauputic> benplaut: uh - you installed checkinstall, right?
[07:06] <vanberge> dark screen when enabled, can barely see graphics, unusable
[07:06] <benplaut> no :P
[07:06] <GioSico> found um hdb and hdd ... :)
[07:06] <thoreauputic> benplaut: sudo apt-get install checkinstall  :)
[07:06] <benplaut> heh
[07:06] <benplaut> oh, really?
[07:06] <GioSico> I relize you said you no nuthing about RAID ... but would you happen to know if I need to format or partiion the drives first?
[07:06] <thoreauputic> !info checkinstall
[07:06] <ubotu> checkinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[07:06] <Cashel> GioSico, anything listed under "System" for them?? Dont wanna accidently format the wrong drives...
[07:07] <Cashel> GioSico, I would assume so, but as I said I dont know....
[07:07] <citrus_> speaking about raid   i wanted to setup up myt raid tonight    does ubuntu install fine  even when the drive is located at /dev/sda?
[07:08] <Cashel> citrus_, I've heard people say they run sata fine, but I've heard others complain about dma modes for it....
[07:08] <GioSico> nothing under system "device" mgr is that what you meant?
[07:08] <GioSico> ok thanks
[07:08] <Tartaros|ubuntu> chavo, yeah I have it set up using keys in windows, but I lost track of the keys somehow ;)
[07:08] <CCFIEL> when i tried to add in my source list and apt-get update an error occured: W: GPG error: http://www.os-works.com testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CF455A0A8AC2C0A6 how do i resolve this?
[07:08] <luckyaba> anyone know the html tag for refreshing a frame only
[07:08] <luckyaba> say every half second
[07:08] <chavo> Tartaros, aha you can generate a new one
[07:09] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: don't use 3rd party repos
[07:09] <Cashel> GioSico, no, under sudo fdisk -l it should have a system column, make sure it doesnt say Extended or Linux or Fat32 or anything for those drives to make sure you got the right ones...
[07:09] <Madpilot> citrus_: SATA works fine for me, but before you do SATA RAID have a look here: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html
[07:09] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: where did you get that repository?
[07:09] <Tartaros|ubuntu> chavo, or actually I may have it done that way in the past, now that I think of it, even in the windows I use some hack with locally stored password
[07:09] <citrus_> i am not doing sata raid... there just pata disks (ide)
[07:10] <CCFIEL> thoreauputic: in os-cillation site.
[07:10] <GioSico> yep sudo fdisk -l shows my two new harddrives and the partitions you are desrcibing I can clearly see the difference between the two ... :)
[07:10] <Cashel> ahhh good
[07:10] <chavo> Yeah, this will get you passwordless for ssh, but not cvs-rsh
[07:10] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: what are you wanting to install ?
[07:10] <chavo> that's another trick
[07:10] <chavo> the one I don't remeber
[07:10] <GioSico> now just gotta learn the software RAID mdadm
[07:10] <luckyaba> citrus_: why dont you quit talking out of your arse
[07:10] <CCFIEL> thoreauputic: i want to install file manager for xfce
[07:10] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: language, please
[07:11] <Cashel> GioSico, now, type mkfs<TAB> and you'll see your options.. man mkfs.<whatever> to see how to run em....
[07:11] <Tartaros> chavo, in the windows I use some -pw passwordhere option to the ssh
[07:11] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: did you install ubuntu's xfce4?
[07:11] <Cashel> GioSico, and dont typo! I did that once :) d and c are close together :P
[07:11] <Tartaros> now where would I set this option so that the gui thingy would pass it to the ssh...
[07:11] <citrus_> luckyaba: don't make me come in there
[07:11] <CCFIEL> thoreauputic: yes i have ..im using it right now.
[07:11] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: well it has both the xfce4 file manager and rox...
[07:11] <GioSico> :)
[07:12] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: so what else did you want?
[07:13] <dooglus> hi room.  what's the best way of getting the SDL development libraries?  I need version 1.2.7 or 1.2.9.  but breezy has 1.2.8.
[07:13] <GioSico> working ... just needed to use sudo and say yes to mkfs entire device and not just one partition ...
[07:13] <Cashel> GioSico, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4090.html ... looks like MD is software raid for linux... maybe worth a read for you...
[07:14] <CCFIEL> thoreauputic: yes it has.  but its not very friendly. i want this thunar  	0.1.2svn+r17285-1  	Advanced file manager for Xfce
[07:14] <CCFIEL> xfce4-modemlights-plugin  	0.1.1-2  	Panel applet to control ppp
[07:14] <GioSico> thank you reading now ...
[07:14] <admash> Does anyone know what the situation with the dbus/dbus-1 conflict in Breezy is?
[07:14] <Cashel> yw
[07:15] <citrus_> does anyone think i will have a problem   its not sata its regualar ide  but its via chip on my msi motherboard   and it uses /dev/sda    do you think i will have a problem install it?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: hmm - I don't know those apps but using 3rd party repos can cause problems - I recommend against it
[07:15] <CCFIEL> thoreauputic: ic
[07:15] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: are you comfortable with compiling? If so you might want to get the source and use checkinstall
[07:16] <Cashel> citrus_, I wouldnt think so myself tho I'm not expert on SATA... either way theres realy only one way to find out :)
[07:16] <CCFIEL> thoreauputic: ok.ill will try. but what cause the error? of apt-get update
[07:17] <Cashel> citrus_, by that I naturaly mean google "ubuntu raid sata" :)
[07:17] <vanberge> apparently my vid card just does not work with hoary...
[07:17] <Cashel> vanberge?
[07:17] <vanberge> Cashel, i cannot get nvidia drivers to work
[07:17] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: it's more a warning than an error I think - the gpg is there to certify the packages
[07:17] <dazvid> vanberge, Whats the problem?
[07:17] <dazvid> installing problems?
[07:18] <citrus_> Cashel: don't mean to be a prick  but i am not deal with sata for the 3rd time
[07:18] <citrus_> just standard ide
[07:18] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL:  W: GPG error:   <-- W for warning
[07:18] <vanberge> dazvid, Cashel, i got the nvidia-glx packages using synaptic... then i ran sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:18] <vanberge> ...
[07:18] <dazvid> Yup
[07:18] <vanberge> that worked fine... but when i restarted X, i had almost no color.  i could BARELY see the screen...
[07:18] <CCFIEL> thoreauputic: ok thanks ill try to get the source :)
[07:19] <nalioth> CCFIEL: remember checkinstall
[07:19] <vanberge> basically, installation successful, but no color whatsoever... i could make out basic shapes
[07:19] <dazvid> hm what card do you have
[07:19] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: yes, install checkinstall from universe ( so you can build a deb)
[07:19] <vanberge> pny Verto Geforce 6200
[07:20] <dazvid> You may need newer drivers then
[07:20] <vanberge> like from nvidia's site?
[07:20] <dazvid> Yeh, thats where I got them
[07:21] <dazvid> however you dont want 7676, try and download 7667
[07:21] <dazvid> apparently 7676 is only good for the 7800gtx cards
[07:21] <dazvid> (i read on the forums)
[07:22] <Myrtti> all righty then
[07:22] <h17m4n> gabu(brazilian guy Im helping) is using a portuguese ubuntu and I dunno the name of the functions, so what command can he run to create a desktop icon for /dev/hda1 ?
[07:22] <Myrtti> I went to the Nvidia site and Firefox crashed.
[07:22] <TraceGreen> i try to use kinfocenter to check my hardinfo, but i get nothing info, i think i may reinstall kinfocenter, can anybody tell me which packet kinfocenter belong to? or any other good tool with gui that can check hardware info?
[07:22] <Madpilot> Myrtti: nvidia.com?
[07:23] <vanberge> dazvid,
[07:23] <vanberge> thanks
[07:23] <Myrtti> Madpilot: that's the one
[07:23] <dazvid> Let us know how it goes
[07:23] <GioSico> Ok I ran ... mkfs on both hdb and hdd ... all looked good ... but fdisk still says they dont contain a valid partition ... did I miss something?
[07:24] <Myrtti> now I went there again and it didn't crash
[07:24] <Myrtti> oh well
[07:24] <neilio> hi everyone
[07:24] <Madpilot> Myrtti: rampaging Flash... but I've never had it crash Opera (yet...)
[07:24] <dazvid> hi neilio
[07:25] <h17m4n> what's the command to create a hard disk desktop icon?
[07:25] <neilio> i'm new to linux (longtime OS X user)
[07:25] <sputnik> help everyon
[07:25] <nalioth> neilio: welcome to freedome
[07:25] <sputnik> help everyon
[07:25] <sputnik> help everyone
[07:25] <dazvid> neilio, i too am new to linux.. except i was a windows noob before that :)
[07:25] <TraceGreen> h17m4n, do you want to create icon on desktop?
[07:25] <nalioth> neilio: ticket are free
[07:26] <sputnik> how to install plugin java
[07:26] <neilio> :)
[07:26] <thoreauputic> sputnik: don't repeat
[07:26] <nalioth> !tell sputnik about java
[07:26] <Myrtti> sputnik: extra extra read all about it were not telepathics.
[07:26] <dazvid> sputnik, easiest way is to just go through Synaptic probably
[07:26] <sputnik> sorry
[07:26] <neilio> I'm trying to set up linux because the available wireless tools are so much better
[07:26] <Myrtti> anyway
[07:26] <nalioth> sputnik: ubotu sent you love
[07:26] <sputnik> im using ubuntu linux 5.0.4
[07:26] <nalioth> neilio: really? what mac are you running (if any)?
[07:26] <doc__> vanberge, get any help w/ nvidia? This is cashel (someone called, damn dialup!)
[07:26] <sputnik> java is missing
[07:26] <h17m4n> not me, this dude I'm helping.... he's using the portuguese version of ubuntu... and I don't know the translation to Create New> Link to Device > Hard Disk
[07:26] <h17m4n> but yeah, a desktop link
[07:27] <nalioth> sputnik: you have a private msg from ubotu. read it please
[07:27] <doc__> somene ping cashel for me :)
[07:27] <neilio> nalloth: iMac G5 and a PowerBook
[07:27] <vanberge> doc__, i think so... i dl'ed driver 7667, going to exit X and install it right now
[07:27] <nalioth> neilio: does the powerbook have APX or old airport?
[07:27] <neilio> I just finished partitioning my Powerbook and now have dualboot working
[07:27] <doc__> vanberge, good luck :)
[07:27] <vanberge> ty !  :-)
[07:27] <gorilla> vanberge, best of luck with that :-)
[07:28] <neilio> nalioth: apx, but I have an old orinoco card that is working fine in ubuntu
[07:28] <vanberge> everybody is saying good luck... you'd think this has little chance of working :-)
[07:28] <nalioth> neilio: then great! no problems at all
[07:28] <hermit> Anyone know about the feasibility of installing ubuntu into a chroot?
[07:28] <nalioth> neilio: got ubuntu on your imac?
[07:28] <doc__> vanberge, I have no idea, last nvidia card I owned was a TNT 2 and it worked just fine in X for what it was :P
[07:28] <neilio> nalioth: nop
[07:28] <hermit> I want to somehow install it into a folder in my existing distro.
[07:28] <neilio> nope
[07:28] <nalioth> neilio: me neither
[07:28] <sputnik> hello ubuntu master.
[07:29] <sputnik> teach me how to install plugin java
[07:29] <sputnik> i dont know nothing
[07:29] <doc__> !tell sputnik about java
[07:29] <sputnik> im new to linux
[07:29] <hermit> we can see that
[07:29] <thoreauputic> sputnik: you were told where to look
[07:29] <sputnik> please repeat what u said earlier
[07:29] <thoreauputic> sputnik: nalioth sent a /msg to you via ubotu
[07:29] <neilio> this is a *total* newbie question...
[07:29] <thoreauputic> !java
[07:29] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[07:30] <AzMoo> Does anybody else have a problem with firefox eating up too much ram if it's been open for too long?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> sputnik: ^^^
[07:30] <neilio> but I'm trying to build airsnort, and it's telling me I need gtk+
[07:30] <nalioth> AzMoo: common firefox behavior
[07:30] <doc__> AzMoo, not open too long, but its a mem hog
[07:30] <cafuego> why don't you just apt-get install airsnort?
[07:30] <nalioth> neilio: install your gtk+ blah -dev
[07:30] <No1Viking> What's needed to play streaming Windows Media files in firefox?
[07:30] <dazvid> neilio, Synaptic is your friend :D
[07:30] <AzMoo> nalioth, ah, ok. Thanks.
[07:30] <dazvid> Easier for new people imo ^
[07:30] <doc__> !tell No1Viking about restrictedformats
[07:31] <AzMoo> !tell AzMoo about restrictedformats
[07:32] <No1Viking> doc__: Tried that but no luck  :(
[07:32] <doc__> nolviking: mplayer is the way to go w/ WMV I hear, but you usualy have to install it from source
[07:32] <neilio> I didn't realize that airsnort was available via apt
[07:32] <nalioth> !tell neilio about sources
[07:33] <nalioth> neilio: you add all those in, you've got toys for days
[07:33] <dazvid> doc__, I had problems with installing mplayer.. need a whole heap of other software before you can install
[07:33] <doc__> brb folks
[07:33] <No1Viking> doc__: Do you have a link to mplayer site?
[07:34] <dazvid> No1Viking, just google it
[07:34] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer
[07:34] <neilio> nalioth: cool. I'm so used to the OS X way that it's a bit disconcerting :)
[07:34] <dazvid> its like www.mplayerhq.hu
[07:34] <nalioth> neilio: as i said, welcome to freedom
[07:34] <thoreauputic> No1Viking: try the mplayer in multiverse first
[07:34] <dazvid> thoreauputic, I dont have mplayer in my multiverse.. any ideas why?
[07:34] <thoreauputic> No1Viking: apt-cache serch mplayer
[07:35] <dazvid> I have all repos' enabled
[07:35] <thoreauputic> sorry typo
[07:35] <thoreauputic> dazvid: itisn't called mplayer apparently
[07:35] <dazvid> oh...
[07:35] <thoreauputic> mplayer-586 or whatever
[07:35] <dazvid> ah yes.. but searching mplayer should still turn that result up.
[07:35] <thoreauputic> apt-cache search mplayer
[07:35] <nalioth> dazvid: use synaptic and search for mplayer
[07:36] <dazvid> yeh did ^
[07:36] <nalioth> dazvid: pastebin your sources.list please (see /topic for a pastebin)
[07:36] <dazvid> I just did the apt-cache search, and it only returned one file... mga-vid-source
[07:37] <thoreauputic> dazvid: yes, nalioth is right - your sources must be wrong
[07:37] <dazvid> nalioth, where is the list stored?
[07:37] <nalioth> dazvid: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:37] <dazvid> thoreauputic, I just have the ones in synaptic enabled
[07:37] <thoreauputic> dazvid: ah
[07:37] <nalioth> !tell dazvid about sources
[07:37] <thoreauputic> !sources
[07:37] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:37] <thoreauputic> heh
[07:37] <nalioth> thoreauputic your slowin down
[07:38] <dazvid> lol we was typing other stuff :P
[07:38] <thoreauputic> nalioth: I was never fast, I'm afraid ;)
[07:38] <nalioth> thoreauputic: no 'one letter aliases" ? heh heh
[07:38] <thoreauputic> ah... I should set that up, indeed !
[07:39] <nalioth> thoreauputic: i was kidding. one letter aliases can get you in trouble
[07:39] <h17m4n> Question: Would installing this driver : ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-x86_64.run from ATI be just a sh or would it be hard like fglrx?
[07:39] <thoreauputic> yes, but aliases can be useful for sure
[07:39] <dazvid> thoreauputic, nalioth, I have the disabled software repos' aswell.. theres about 10 different ones
[07:39] <dazvid> I will paste in the paste bin
[07:39] <nalioth> dazvid: no need, just make sure all the sources on the URL above are in your sources.list
[07:40] <dazvid> Fair enough
[07:40] <nalioth> dazvid: and dont forget to update your apt (or synaptic)
[07:42] <intelikey> ok so i did it.... i junked a perfectly good system to install this one....    hmmm nuff said.
[07:42] <intelikey> :)
[07:42] <nalioth> intelikey: may i msg you?
[07:43] <intelikey> you may but the channel doesn't seem very busy right now.
[07:43] <dazvid> I dunno, people have other stuff other than spamming IRC channels I guess
[07:43] <dazvid> :)
[07:43] <thoreauputic> dazvid: spamming IRC channels is my reason for being! *grin*
[07:44] <dazvid> lol
[07:44] <intelikey> spam ?       http://ts.silosoft.org
[07:44] <nessmuk> any remedies for the hal errors? Deselect it from upgrades after install. Uninstall it?
[07:45] <nalioth> thoreauputic: and serving coffee
[07:45] <lopingo> hmmm
[07:46] <lopingo> :)
[07:46] <thoreauputic> nalioth: of course - we need coffee to keep spamming ;)
[07:47] <lopingo> anyone using limewire here?
[07:47] <thoreauputic> nalioth: may I /msg you fo a minute?
[07:47] <omp342> how can i get rid of a program i installed by opening a *.sh file?
[07:47] <dazvid> limewire is p2p isnt it?
[07:47] <lopingo> yeap
[07:47] <lopingo> i installed it but when i opened it, it doesn't open at all
[07:47] <dazvid> bittorrent is the way to go nowadays
[07:47] <thoreauputic> omp342: it depends
[07:47] <lopingo> true :)
[07:48] <dazvid> I use azureus
[07:48] <dazvid> its handy
[07:48] <omp342> thoreauputic: i got winetools, and never used it, and now i want to get rid of it :)
[07:48] <lopingo> ic
[07:48] <nalioth> lopingo: use gtk-gnutella. it does the same thing as limewire
[07:48] <nalioth> dazvid: azureus and limewire do two differnt things
[07:48] <lopingo> nalioth: okay, *searches right away*
[07:49] <dazvid> nalioth, I realise this ;)
[07:49] <thoreauputic> omp342: I don't know winetools - does it have an uninstall script?
[07:49] <dazvid> I stated that bittorrent is probably better path these days
[07:49] <ksmurf> anyone know what the command is for the gnome menu control is in breezy?  For the gdesklets gnomebar
[07:49] <vanberge> so close i think... just need kernel source
[07:49] <lopingo> well
[07:49] <lopingo> i prefer both anyways :)
[07:49] <dazvid> vanberge, there's a forum topic on installing the nvidia drivers
[07:50] <omp342> thoreauputic: let me check
[07:50] <dazvid> shows how to get the correct kernel source and such
[07:50] <vanberge> dazvid, do you have a link handy?
[07:50] <vanberge> if not, its ok im sure i can find
[07:50] <dazvid> Nah sorry, should come up easily with a search.. let me have a look :)
[07:51] <odat> breezy rocks
[07:52] <ksmurf> breezy does rock but I'm having issues with gdesklets
[07:52] <vanberge> dazvid, ...  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60535&highlight=nvidia+6200
[07:52] <vanberge> my exact problem
[07:52] <odat> ksmurf: what kind of problem?
[07:53] <dazvid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368&highlight=nvidia+driver+install
[07:53] <dazvid> this one ^
[07:53] <intelikey> hmmm  whether to make this sound card work with ub or pull it and put it in this dows box that don't have one.....   decissions decissions....
[07:53] <omp342> thoreauputic: i don't see a uninstall script :/
[07:53] <ksmurf> odat translucentcy and the starterbar..... all my "stuff" is just black boxes
[07:54] <ksmurf> and I can't find the command for the gnome menu
[07:54] <thoreauputic> omp342: hmm - you might have to track down your files then
[07:54] <thoreauputic> omp342: or just leave them there...
[07:54] <nalioth> omp342: you'll need to open the guilty .sh file in a text editor and track down where it put things
[07:54] <dazvid> vanberge, The last guy in the forum topic you pasted said the 7667 works well for him.. so definitely give that a go
[07:55] <ksmurf> 7667 does work great
[07:55] <omp342> nalioth: okay i'll try that, thanks :)
[07:56] <h17m4n> Would anyone recommend installing the ATI driver from ATIs page?
[07:56] <ksmurf> h17 for hoary or breezy?
[07:57] <dazvid> ksmurf, what card do you run?
[07:57] <ksmurf> 6600GT nvidia
[07:57] <lopingo> hey
[07:57] <dazvid> ok kool
[07:57] <h17m4n> hoary
[07:57] <[Spooky] > yeah me like ubuntu for 64 bit :)
[07:57] <lopingo> what's the best/good music player?
[07:57] <drummer87> hi, how can i use mplayer with gtk2? (gtk1 menus are ugly :P)
[07:57] <h17m4n> 5.04
[07:57] <lopingo> other than xmms
[07:57] <dazvid> Why not xmms ? :)
[07:57] <ksmurf> hoary yes the driver is ok but in breezy it's broken (or will be)
[07:58] <lopingo> hehe
[07:58] <lopingo> just asking :)
[07:58] !lilo:*! Hi all. Hint: if your main support channel is +r, please consider providing support in your 'unreg' channel. Remember, unregistered users need your help too. :)
[07:58] <dazvid> ah ok
[07:58] <dazvid> umm, there is a console player called cplay
[07:58] <odat> lopingo : i found a great with auto scanning a folder on startup
[07:58] <[Spooky] > just cuirus, is everything based on the 64-bit cpu or are there some 32-bit apps in it too ?
[07:59] <lopingo> dazvid, yeah
[07:59] <odat> lopingo: quod libet
[07:59] <h17m4n>  : make sure that the kernel agpgart support is not active, i.e. it is not compiled into the kernel and the kernel modules are not loaded
[07:59] <ksmurf> odat are u use starterber in breezy?
[07:59] <thoreauputic> [Spooky] : I think it won't run 32 bit without a chroot
[07:59] <lopingo> odat: hm? wrong person?
[07:59] <brownie17> aftertaf: you there?
[07:59] <omp342> nalioth: thanks A LOT :)
[07:59] <h17m4n> how do I deactivate it?
[07:59] <odat> ksmurf no i'm not
[07:59] <nalioth> omp342: np
[07:59] <ksmurf> K
[07:59] <lopingo> hmm
[07:59] <omp342> does photoshop work in crossover?
[07:59] <h17m4n> everything is 64 bit Spooky
[07:59] <omp342> regular wine sucks :)
[07:59] <brownie17> seveas: you there?
[08:00] <lopingo> lol
[08:00] <nalioth> omp342: it should
[08:00] <GioSico> Sweet my two new hard drives are working and mounted thanks to you folks here and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Add_a_new_hard_drive ... to try for the RAID1
[08:00] <angryfix> I'm trying to run ethereal as root in promiscuous mode, but it only captures packets to and from my computer.  Any ideas?
[08:00] <h17m4n> to run 32 bit need to chroot
[08:00] !lilo:*! Also, at the present time, NOIDPRIVMSG (blocking on private messages from unregistered users) means that +R can be a little scary. No way to talk, no way to message. Try to make sure your unregistered users have a place to ask questions too!
[08:00] <[Spooky] > thoreauputic: hm ok, noticed that some packages named *-64 and some not hehe...
[08:00] <ksmurf> Other than that it does rock.... and fast too. and xcompmgr doesn't have to run with prio 0 anymore
[08:00] <lopingo> ok time to go
[08:00] <lopingo> cya guys
[08:00] <lopingo> :)
[08:00] <ksmurf> cya
[08:00] <thoreauputic> [Spooky] : well of course some packages are arch independent
[08:01] <CaiN_SA> my laptop os crap
[08:01] <CaiN_SA> i aint doin nothing
[08:01] <CaiN_SA> and the hdd wont stop reading
[08:01] <brownie17> nalioth: i removed the EVM from the startup with update-rc.d and now it often won't run "HAL", and i want to know how to add it back again, do you know? does anybody reading this?
[08:02] <brownie17> nalioth: it means my gnome-panel doesn't start properly,
[08:02] <nalioth> brownie17: sorry, i'm not familiar with hal
[08:02] <brownie17> aftertaf: sometimes my gnome-panel works, and others it doesnt
[08:02] <brownie17> nalioth: thanx
[08:03] <aftertaf> brownie17:  i don't know gnome much.. i'm on kde
[08:03] <intelikey> hmmmm; to udev, or not to udev, that is the question.....
[08:04] <brownie17> aftertaf: it's still that same HAL error, from the update rc.d thing
[08:04] <aftertaf> hal & updaterc-d not linked brownie17
[08:05] <brownie17> aftertaf: well i never got the HAL error before i did that update-rc.d thing
[08:05] <intelikey> ok anybody in here know how to turn the window keys and menu key on in console mode ?
[08:05] <brownie17> aftertaf: no-one seems to know how to fix it, should i just reinstall ubuntu?
[08:05] <omp342> is the bittorrent client included with ubuntu any good?
[08:05] <aftertaf> is it a blocking error brownie17 ?
[08:05] <deFrysk> omp342, sure , why not ?
[08:05] <Quinthius> omp342: it's the standard bittorrent client i think... doesn't have a lot of features i dont think
[08:06] <brownie17> aftertaf: what do you mean by that?
[08:06] <brownie17> omp342: they tell me so, yes
[08:06] <aftertaf> does it stop your pc from booting or working?
[08:06] <omp342> i'll just get qtorrent
[08:06] <omp342> very good simplistic BT client
[08:06] <megahal> I've only said it to him now.
[08:07] <brownie17> aftertaf: without the panel, i cannot run any applications except those that auto-boot, it is not worth using ubuntu if none of them menus work and i can't get a terminal open