[22:45] <nacc> Paddy_NI: i believe you can get some verbose debugging from teh vnc client, to see if it simply doesn't see the server, or if it gets an error
[22:45] <nacc> Paddy_NI: the workaround there was to use vinagre or remmina
[22:45] <nacc> Paddy_NI: which client did you try?
[22:45] <Paddy_NI> lol
[22:45] <Paddy_NI> Both of those
[22:45] <Paddy_NI> XD
[22:45] <nacc> Paddy_NI: ok :)
[22:46] <nacc> Paddy_NI: i'm out of ideas right now
[22:46] <Paddy_NI> No worries, thank you so much for your time :-)
[22:47] <Paddy_NI> I might set her up with teamviewer for now, until this VNC problem that plagues ubuntu gets fixed
[22:48] <Paddy_NI> I think I personally only had it working for one release.  15.10 or 15.04 perhaps
[22:48] <Paddy_NI> Actually 15.04 as it was broken after that, I remember now.
[22:49] <akik> Paddy_NI: my mnemonic for netstat is "sudo netstat -tulpan", -p shows the program that has opened the socket
[22:49] <Paddy_NI> akik, Oh cool, I will take note of that. :-)
[22:49] <Paddy_NI> Cheers akik
[22:57] <Paprikachu> how can i set a route with netplan? i'm getting "Error in network definition //etc/netplan/10-lxc.yaml line 1 column 2: unknown key routes"
[22:57] <gorgio> hey :)
[22:58] <gorgio> is this the main place for ubuntu support?
[22:58] <genii> gorgio: Yes
[22:59] <genii> gorgio: Best to just state your issue to the channel and see if any takers
[22:59] <genii> That's how we roll here
[23:04] <gorgio> cool, so I have created live USB from both pc (with rufus) and mac (with etcher). i have a macbook and i want to boot only ubuntu from this macbook, so the drives have been cleared on it. booting to the usbs show the option to 'Try ubuntu...' which lets me use the usb live version, or install.  neither option works from both usbs
[23:05] <gorgio> i am given 3 error lines, 'couldnt get size', 'couldnt get UEFI db list', 'couldnt get size'
[23:05] <gorgio> i should emphasize there is no macOS installed on this machine
[23:05] <gorgio> and i do not need to dual boot
[23:06] <gorgio> have at it ladies
[23:07] <gorgio> oh and the usb works in live mode on my windows machine so i assumed it created the ubuntu copy correctly
[23:11] <nacc> gorgio: is your windows machine in efi mode?
[23:11] <nacc> gorgio: how old is your macbook?
[23:11] <gorgio> macbook is early 2011
[23:12] <gorgio> macbook pro
[23:12] <gorgio> when booting to the usb on windows i held F12, im not sure if its in EFI mode
[23:12] <gorgio> @nacc

[23:13] <nacc> !tab | gorgio: no extra characters needed
[23:13] <nacc> gorgio: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2377181
[23:13] <gorgio> nacc: thanks!
[23:13] <nacc> gorgio: which version of ubuntu did you try?
[23:13] <kk4ewt> gorgio,  hold the option key as you boot does that show you ubuntu
[23:13] <gorgio> oh, 17.10
[23:13] <nacc> gorgio: try 16.04 :)
[23:14] <nacc> gorgio: per that forum post, at least
[23:17] <gorgio> unfortunately i wanted the GNOME version. anyway if that seems to be the only workaround i shall try it :) thanks.
[23:19] <nacc> gorgio: ubuntu gnome 16.04
[23:19] <nacc> gorgio: then :)
[23:19] <nacc> gorgio: it will be a relatively stock gnome experience (i ran it then, and just upgrade through each release so far)
[23:25] <nacc> gorgio: you can always try it for not and see
[23:25] <nacc> gorgio: or wait til 18.04 :)
[23:26] <gorgio> nacc: ye ill defintely try it. looking to have a linux workspace
[23:26] <Mehrzad> Hi
[23:27] <gorgio> and will upgrade when 18.04 comes out. does upgrading usually mean reinstalling all my packages or can you generally just copy /usr over?
[23:27] <gorgio> hi :0
[23:27] <gorgio> nacc: thanks for the help
[23:28] <Mehrzad> I have a serius problem regarding ubuntu 17.04. After upgrading my laptop from ubuntu 16.04, it doesn't anymore detect my keyboard and touchpad in the login screen
[23:28] <multifractal> I usually use FL studio on Win to play/record live instruments, VST instruments and effects. Is there some way I can play VSTs with MIDI keyboard on Ubuntu? And/or record in audio from a USB interface? Like a VST host on WINE with something Audacity to record tracks? Or a full blown Ubuntu DAW?
[23:29] <nacc> gorgio: upgrade sould be just that (esp if going from lts to lts)
[23:29] <nacc> gorgio: you can also reinstall if you want, it depends on wha tyou need to keep
[23:30] <gorgio> nacc: what about going from ubuntu GNOME 16.04 to vanilla 18.04?
[23:32] <Mehrzad> Any ideas?
[23:50] <StumpDumb> greetings: can someone tell me how to Disable the shutdown confirmation (Ubuntu 17.10)
[23:52] <mutante> StumpDumb: you want to shutdown manually as fast as possible?
[23:53] <mutante> you could type "shutdown -h now" in terminal
[23:55] <nacc> StumpDumb: probably need to use dconf
[23:55] <StumpDumb> dconf Don't Work
[23:56] <puxavida> StumpDumb, maybe create an icon that points to a script with shutdown -h now
[23:57] <puxavida> but shutdown might need sudo
[23:59] <StumpDumb> i'll try this shutdown -h now. thx I'm odda here


[16:03] <impl> Hi guys. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of /lib/modules/2.6.28-9-xen (preferrably without having to boot an instance, but that's not a huge deal)? I poked around on the Ubuntu EC2 site but couldn't find the source repositories.
[22:02] <erichammond> impl: You might ask zul the question about the kernel when he gets back.
[22:05] <erichammond> I think the kernel modules for the Canonical images came from (or were published on) the ubuntu-ec2 PPA at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ec2/+archive/ppa but I don't see the newer kernels there.
[22:06] <erichammond> As you are likely aware, the kernel modules must exactly match the kernel version and normal users can't build their own kernel for EC2.
[22:55] <impl> erichammond: Okay, cool. I'll hang around for a bit.


[01:50] <jtv> come on you slackers, I want a review!
[03:53] <thumper> mwhudson: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/hg-imports-using-url/+merge/17187
[03:53] <mwhudson> thumper: i'm writing billions of comments for my db patch
[03:53] <thumper> heh
[03:53] <thumper> I'm about to go through your last respones
[03:53] <mwhudson> thumper: also there are no requested reviews, how did you do that?
[03:54] <thumper> mwhudson: it is in progress :)
[03:54] <mwhudson> ah
[03:54] <thumper> stub: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/imports-urls/+merge/17172
[03:54] <thumper> stub: I took jelmer's import work
[03:54] <thumper> stub: and unified the url fields
[03:54] <thumper> stub: in prelim of the hg import work
[04:00] <stub> mwhudson: SourcePackageRecipeDataInstruction.recipe_data is still nullable
[04:00] <mwhudson> stub: darn
[04:01]  * mwhudson pushes again
[04:10] <stub> mwhudson: Looks like the owner's name is used to refer to recipes. Is this going to explode if someone changes their Person.name?
[04:11] <mwhudson> stub: recipes don't refer to other recipes (yet)
[04:11] <mwhudson> stub: i guess it will explode much like branches
[04:11] <stub> mwhudson: And this only exists in Launchpad? Or are the URLs or ids referenced in sourcepackages or anything like that?
[04:12] <mwhudson> stub: hm
[04:12] <mwhudson> stub: actually, all references within launchpad will be at the database level
[04:12] <mwhudson> URLs won't be stored by programs outside launchpad, i expect
[04:12] <stub> I never got a rationale on the SourcepackageRecipe/SourcepackageRecipeData split either.
[04:13] <stub> Unless you need to keep orphaned SourcepackageRecipeData information I can't see the gain.
[04:14] <mwhudson> i've explained this several times
[04:14] <mwhudson> although possibly not in an email to you specifically
[04:14] <mwhudson> SourcepackageRecipeData is also referenced from SourcePackageRecipeBuild
[04:14] <stub> Not to me or in the MP where I asked the q ;)
[04:14] <mwhudson> stub: one way of looking at the split is that the SourcepackageRecipeData is the bzr-builder part
[04:15] <mwhudson> stub: and SourcePackageRecipe is the launchpad metadata around it
[04:15] <mwhudson> a little like the way the bazaar branch is stored separately from the Branch row
[04:16] <mwhudson> and the reason they're separate is that the build needs to refer to the manifest, which is a "frozen" version of the bzr-builder part of the recipe
[04:17] <stub> So the SourcePackageRecipeBuild.manifest may point to a different recipe via SPRBD than SPRB.recipe?
[04:18] <stub> Or in that case, will the manifest point to a SPRBD with no corresponding recipe?
[04:19] <mwhudson> stub: a particular SPRD is references from exactly one other row
[04:19] <mwhudson> either a SPR or a SPRB
[04:19] <mwhudson> never both
[04:20] <stub> If the pointers went the other way (add SPRD.recipe and SPRD.recipe_build), we can enforce that constraint.
[04:21] <mwhudson> stub: the patch has comments now
[04:21] <stub> Rather than leaving it to your documentation :)
[04:22] <rockstar> jtv, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rockstar/launchpad/use-suspended-job-status/+merge/17191
[04:22] <jtv> ahh, there it is
[04:22] <mwhudson> stub: yeah, that's probably a good idea
[04:22] <stub> mwhudson: Is bzr-builder a Launchpad project or an Ubuntu project btw?
[04:22] <mwhudson> stub: it's a james_w project
[04:22] <mwhudson> stub: i guess that makes it more an ubuntu thing than a launchpad thing
[04:24] <stub> Just wondering if revspec should be used or not. If it is the term used in the domain it is probably valid. I suspect it violates our Python coding standards though.
[04:25] <thumper> rockstar: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/js-play/+merge/17193
[04:25] <thumper> stub: I'd love to get https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/imports-urls/+merge/17172 landed
[04:26] <mwhudson> stub: hm, it's a pretty standard term in the bzr world
[04:26] <thumper> :)
[04:26] <stub> mwhudson: Thats fine then.
[04:26] <mwhudson> thumper: stop distracting the DBA
[04:26] <mwhudson> thumper: this branch blocks everything
[04:26] <thumper> ok
[04:26] <thumper> mwhudson: didn't realise he was still hastling you so much
[04:27] <thumper> how about revision specifier?
[04:27] <stub> I suspect it is a good idea that this isn't entwined with the existing Build table
[04:28] <stub> If I was going to call it anything, I'd just call it 'revision' but domain naming trumps since that pulls in more meaning.
[04:30] <mwhudson> stub: for the constraints, you mean something like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/355335/ ?
[04:31] <mwhudson> stub: revision would definitely not be right, that would imply to me that it specifies a particular revision
[04:31] <mwhudson> whereas it could be a tag, or a revno, or even a lca with some other branch
[04:32] <mwhudson> (this won't work as i have to reorder the file, but the idea is there at least)
[04:32] <stub> mwhudson: That allows them both to be NOT NULL. You want (recipe IS NULL != build IS NULL) if its one or the other but not both.
[04:33] <mwhudson> stub: doh
[04:47] <stub> mwhudson: Review in including indexes etc.
[04:48] <mwhudson> stub: thanks
[04:48] <stub> mwhudson: sourcepackage is one word in Launchpad at the moment so there is some renaming needed or discussion
[04:48] <mwhudson> stub: why is sourcepackagerecipe__owner__idx commented out
[04:48] <mwhudson> ?
[04:48] <mwhudson> stub: ok, that's easy enough to fix
[04:48] <stub> Oh - we don't need it (the unique constraint on owner, distrorelease, ... can be used.
[04:49] <mwhudson> ah ok
[04:49] <stub> Unless we see people merge timeouts because the table is too big and the index too wide ;)
[04:51] <mwhudson> stub: that definitely falls into your area :-)
[04:56] <stub> thumper: Any particular reason you are not creating a modified version of absolute_url() in database/schema/trusted.sql and fixing Bug #506146?
[04:56] <mup> Bug #506146: git and hg imports don't check for valid_absolute_url <code-import> <testing> <Launchpad Bazaar Integration:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/506146>
[04:57] <thumper> stub: because it has to do with how we are testing git imports
[04:57] <thumper> stub: currently it is using the local file system
[04:57] <thumper> stub: and I don't want to fix this in this branch
[04:57] <thumper> stub: we'd need to fire up a git server in order to fix this bug
[04:57] <thumper> stub: so we'll probably add git and hg to the developer dependancies
[04:58]  * thumper leaves now
[04:58] <stub> thumper: The web ui protects us?
[04:58] <thumper> stub: it does
[05:01] <stub> mwhudson: I'm out to lunch. You can land the branch with the fixes if it is blocking things - I can do any tweaks post landing if they are needed.
[05:02] <mwhudson> stub: we're EODing now, so i'll make fixes, push and if you say ok i'll land it later
[05:35] <al-maisan> noodles775: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~al-maisan/launchpad/url-props-505382/+merge/17197
[11:14] <stub> mwhudson: Should BuildSourcePackageFromRecipeJob.job be UNIQUE?
[11:14] <mwhudson> yes, i guess
[11:15] <mwhudson> mind you it seems branchjob.job should also be unique and it isn't
[11:23] <stub> mwhudson: Feel free to fix branchjob.job in your patch while you are there :)
[11:23] <stub> More indexes I missed the first time sorry and a constraint fix.
[11:56] <mwhudson> stub: ok, now?
[12:00]  * stub looks
[12:02] <stub> quick, land it before I notice anything else.
[12:03] <mwhudson> thanks
[12:05] <mwhudson> :)
[12:05]  * mwhudson zzzs
[12:24] <bac> good morning gmb
[12:25] <gmb> bac: Hi bac.
[12:25] <bac> gmb: pretty quiet around here today?
[12:25] <gmb> bac: Yes, so far.
[12:25] <bac> cool.  have fun with CW.  i'll grab jtv's branch now
[12:41] <bac> jtv: ping
[13:52] <bac> beuno: any thoughts on the new screenshots i sent you?
[13:54] <beuno> bac, looking now (was knee deep in some sprite fixes)
[13:55] <beuno> bac, looks much much better, thanks
[13:55] <beuno> 2 quick questions
[13:55] <beuno> where does the "continue" link take you?
[13:58] <beuno> actually just that question  :)
[13:59] <beuno> bac, also, I have an almost trivial branch for review when you have a minute: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~beuno/launchpad/sprite-issues-never-die/+merge/17229
[14:02] <bac> beuno: 'continue' takes you back to ~beuno
[14:03] <beuno> bac, s/continue/Back to my account/ and ui=me
[14:03] <bac> beuno: great, thanks
[14:03] <bac> beuno: can you update the MP so i can use 'ec2 land'?
[14:04] <beuno> bac, I can, do you have the link handy?
[14:04] <bac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-419930/+merge/17015
[14:05]  * beuno goes get his rubber stamp
[14:07] <beuno> bac, done
[14:24] <bac> beuno: what about this in projects-index.pt: <p class="sprite error application-summary"
[14:24] <bac> beuno: does it need changing too?
[14:30]  * beuno looks
[14:30] <beuno> bac, yes, it's the only place where that sprite is used
[14:30] <beuno> since I renamed it, I need to change it as well
[14:31] <bac> beuno: ok, r=bac with that.  MP updated
[14:33] <beuno> bac, thanks
[14:33] <gmb> henninge: Re: my review from yesterday. W.R.T the use of constants and updating doctests, I think it would also be a good idea to make the tests for _getHeatFrom*() into unittests, since we'll want to add more later and unittests are more flexible in that way. How does that sound to you?
[14:34] <gmb> (I'm using constants as you suggested, though)
[14:34] <henninge> gmb: I like unittests ;-)
[14:34] <gmb> henninge: Ah, good! I shall do that forthwith, then.
[14:35] <henninge> gmb: and you are right, the way they are multiplied there for coverage does not belong in a doctest.
[14:35] <henninge> and good coverage is cool.
[14:35] <gmb> henninge: Right. I wrote the doctest because I was doing TDD and trying to work out the best way to do things, but now that I've done that a unittest would be better to ensure good coverage.
[14:43] <henninge> gmb: I can't wait to see the new code ... ;_)
[15:06]  * beuno curses at ec2 test not being headless by default
[15:43] <bac> salgado-lunch: you asked that i file a bug in your review of https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-419930/+merge/17015 -- i've discussed the issue at length with edwin and he says it is handled.  so i'd rather not open a bug unless you insist.
[16:11] <gmb> henninge: I don't think the BugHeatConstants need to be in interfaces/bug.py. They're only going to be used in the one place.
[16:12] <henninge> gmb: what about the rule that tests must not import from model code?
[16:12] <henninge> At least I thought there was such a rule ...
[16:12] <gmb> henninge: We aren't importing from model code though. We're importing from scripts.bugheat, which has nothing to do with the model whatever.
[16:13] <gmb> henninge: I'm not familiar with that rule, though it makes sense (We should be using the factory where possible, getUtility() where not)
[16:13] <henninge> gmb: ok, I am not too fussed about that.
[16:13] <gmb> Cool.
[16:13] <henninge> exactly
[16:16] <salgado> bac, don't worry about it, then.
[16:17] <bac> salgado: great
[16:52] <bac> hi sinzui, i'm looking at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~sinzui/launchpad/non-existent-packages-bug-204119/+merge/17176
[16:52] <bac> sinzui: at line 64 is there a reason you're using PackagingAddView in the super() and not the actual class name?
[16:53] <sinzui> oops
[16:54] <sinzui> bac: Yes, I am incompetent. I moved the method from  PackagingAddView when I decided it was not the right place for the rule.
[16:54] <bac> sinzui: easy mistake
[16:55]  * bac hates super() syntax anyway
[16:55] <sinzui> bac: The code works because PackagingAddView does not have a setupFields.
[16:55] <sinzui> I will fix that
[16:59] <mrevell> henninge_, If you're still around, I've updated my translations help MP -- https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~matthew.revell/launchpad/translations-help-10.1/+merge/17032
[17:00] <henninge> mrevell: I am, I will look at it in a minute.
[17:00] <mrevell> thanks henninge
[17:55] <henninge> gmb, bac: If either of you feels like reviewing my branch, I'd be really happy.
[17:56] <henninge> It is oversized and I won't be around until tomorrow, so I'd understand if you refuse. https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~henninge/launchpad/bug-503454-security-py/+merge/17241
[17:56] <henninge> gmb is probably done for the day anyway.
[17:58] <henninge> mrevell: I like the mo-style layout comment ;)
[17:58] <mrevell> heh
[17:59] <mrevell> I'm heading off to cook. Will be back around these parts three or four hours.
[21:45] <flacoste> sinzui: i replied to your review
[21:45] <sinzui> great because I just sent my windmill test fixes to EdwinGrubbs. I'll take a look at your changes
[22:17] <kfogel> bigjools: see my mail -- need a 100x100 px face or avatar image from you for planet.launchpad.net
[22:18] <bigjools> kfogel: feel free to use my LP mug
[22:19] <kfogel> bigjools: thx
[22:21] <kfogel> bigjools: the cartoony one? :-)
[22:26] <bigjools> kfogel: yep :)
[22:27] <bigjools> kfogel: it's actually a scan of what was on my wedding invitations
[22:28] <kfogel> bigjools: I also just used it as a test attachment on a bug in my dev instance, for working on bug #506018.
[22:28] <kfogel> so there
[22:28] <bigjools> kfogel: copyright infringement!
[22:28] <mup> Bug #506018: Need a "+patches" view: report lists patches attached to bugs. <story-patch-report> <Launchpad Bugs:Triaged by kfogel> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/506018>
[22:28] <kfogel> bigjools: no, because I'm not publishing :-)
[22:29] <bigjools> :)
[22:29] <kfogel> bigjools: btw, one's launchpad.dev DB stays unmolested between 'make run', shutdown, 'make run', shutdown, etc, right?  I won't lose this new project when I shut down, only when I do 'make schema', I'm guessing?
[22:30] <bigjools> kfogel: yep, only make schema blitzes it
[22:31] <kfogel> bigjools: cool
[22:31] <kfogel> bigjools: I can't quite tell when I need to restart.  Apparently, not after modifying a .pt file?  But always after modifying a .py file?  (I mean to see the effect of my changes.)
[22:32] <bigjools> kfogel: that is correct on both counts
[22:37] <EdwinGrubbs> abentley: are you still on call?
[22:38] <abentley> EdwinGrubbs: No, I'm at a sprint.
[22:38] <EdwinGrubbs> ok


[00:52] <Anxi80> what is launchpadlibrarian.net? Is it official?
[00:58] <mwhudson> Anxi80: yes
[00:59] <Anxi80> mwhudson, thanks
[00:59] <mwhudson> Anxi80: it's there so that if someone can upload html with javascript in it and trick your browser into accessing it, said javascript can't access your launchpad cookie
[00:59] <mwhudson> s
[01:00] <Anxi80> I googled for a particular apple isight driver and first hit was a link to a driver at that address...
[01:01] <mwhudson> ah
[04:28] <smspillaz> jelmer: around ?
[04:32] <wgrant> smspillaz: It's 6:30am for him now. What's up?
[05:08] <smspillaz> wgrant: ah, hi. I was just wondering wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/832011 if there was a workaroudn we can use in the meantime
[05:09] <StevenK> Don't use 3.0 (quilt) ? :-)
[05:11] <smspillaz> StevenK: any guidance on how I'd do that ?
[05:12] <StevenK> smspillaz: The format is listed in debian/source/format, so delete that file and patch debian/rules to apply and unapply patches is an evil hack.
[05:18] <smspillaz> StevenK: thanks
[05:18] <smspillaz> StevenK: tbh, I just need it building :)
[10:51] <Sweetshark> "A new OAuth token consumer was enabled in Launchpad. If you did not make this change, visit #launchpad in IRC at freenode to alert staff of the issue."
[10:51] <Sweetshark> I cant remember enabling any tokens (unless launchpadlib-login does that). so: alert or not?
[10:57] <czajkowski> gmb: I've never seen an issue like this before can you help ?
[10:57] <czajkowski> please
[11:00] <gmb> Aaaa
[11:00]  * gmb reads scrollback
[11:01] <gmb> Sweetshark, launchpadlib-login does that, yes.
[11:01] <czajkowski> gmb: ello good sir
[11:01] <czajkowski> gmb: so this is normal
[11:01] <gmb> Yes.
[11:01] <gmb> The message is a little opaque, unfortunately.
[11:03] <Sweetshark> gmb, czajkowski: thanks.
[11:03] <czajkowski> gmb: cheers
[11:03] <gmb> No worries.
[11:04] <czajkowski> <----------- lunch
[12:35] <sidnei> does launchpad support mirroring a non-master branch from git?
[12:35] <sidnei> i wonder if a ',branch=<branchname>' like in bzr dpush would work?
[12:37] <czajkowski> vila: ^^
[12:38] <vila> jelmer: ^^ It would at least requires a newer bzr launchpad-side
[12:39] <jelmer> vila: no, that should already work
[12:40] <jelmer> sidnei: that will work
[12:40] <vila> \o/
[12:40] <sidnei> nice
[12:41] <sidnei> :( "git@github.com:graphite-project/graphite-web.git,branch=0.9.x" is not a valid URI"
[12:41] <sidnei> (from +new-import)
[12:42] <sidnei> oh, wait
[12:42] <sidnei> that wasn't the read-only url, pebkac :)
[12:44] <jelmer> sidnei: that's right, it is not a valid URL :)
[12:44] <jelmer> sidnei: you probably want git://github.com/graphite-project/graphite-web.git,branch=0.9.x
[12:45] <sidnei> yep, fixed. waiting for the import to kick in https://code.launchpad.net/~graphite-dev/graphite/0.9.x
[15:03] <rick_h_> czajkowski: nice interview! There's a space before the "There's a LEP" link that caused it to break for me when I tried to open it from google reader.
[15:03] <czajkowski> bah
[15:04] <rick_h_> <3 the pragmatism answer
[15:04] <czajkowski> rick_h_: can you try now please
[15:05] <rick_h_> czajkowski: space is gone, will see if google reader updates the feed data at all
[17:07] <neale> Can I get my "neale" auto-created account merged with the "blowout" one I made myself?  Trying to merge them with the link provided breaks launchpad (probably there is no email address associated with neale)
[17:09] <neale> just got callet to a meeting, bbiab
[17:10] <mthaddon> neale: checking now
[17:11] <mthaddon> neale: "A merge is queued and is expected to complete in a few minutes."
[18:16] <sidnei> hola launchpadders, today im being told by launchpad that i've exceeded my build quota for lucid/precise. how do i get that bumped?
[18:19] <rick_h_> sidnei: czajkowski is EOD now I think, but I believe we ping webops on that. Hit up #-ops and ping there.
[18:19] <sidnei> rick_h_, tried that, but they (at least jjo) haven't found the switch to toggle. only for quota and scores.
[18:20] <rick_h_> sidnei: ah, deryck[lunch] can idea when you get back?
[18:20] <rick_h_> sidnei: I'll hit up the wiki and see what I can find
[18:22] <rick_h_> sidnei: is 'build quota' the exact message?
[18:22] <sidnei> rick_h_, "You have exceeded today's quota for ubuntu precise, ubuntu lucid"
[18:26] <rick_h_> sidnei: yea sorry, not coming up with anything. sinzui any ideas?
[18:30] <Rockj> Q: Anyone could pinpoint me to URL endpoint for listing bugs for a particular project? Thinking of hacking together context switching in my IDE based on bugs .
[18:31] <Rockj> (I've tried looking through the apidoc, but I'm basically just getting lost and don't know which resource I need to go through)
[18:34] <sinzui> sidnei, I don't know of any work arounds
[18:35] <sidnei> sinzui, thanks. i guess creating a new user would be a work around, but waiting 24h might just do it :)
[18:41] <sinzui> Rockj, Lp does not have an endpoint that will give you an collection of indeterminate size
[18:42] <sinzui> Rockj, bug I can see json of the bugs my gpd project has using
[18:42] <sinzui> https://api.launchpad.net/devel/gdp?ws.op=searchTasks
[18:42] <Rockj> ahh, that one is perfect
[18:42] <Rockj> https://api.launchpad.net/1.0/nav?ws.op=searchTasks :)
[18:43] <sinzui> Rockj, look at https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#bug_target searchTasks which will show the params you can pass to exactly specify what you want
[18:43] <neale> thank you mthaddon
[18:44] <sinzui> Rockj, ws.op=searchTasks by itself will list all the bugs that are shown without searching on a projects bug page
[18:45] <Rockj> sinzui: mhm, checking to see if I can list bugs the are not closed
[18:45] <Rockj> is_complete is a field.
[18:46] <sinzui> Rockj, yes! status=[list of status you want to see]
[18:47] <Rockj> but in the end, the first one will only give me open bugs on the project
[18:48] <Rockj> which is what I want to use for context switching
[18:50] <sinzui> right. You can pass a list in of just the status you want to see such as just those that no one else is working like
[18:50] <sinzui> https://api.launchpad.net/devel/gdp?ws.op=searchTasks&status=Confirmed;Triaged
[18:50] <sinzui> Rockj, use the /devel/ api /1.0/ is missing a lot of goodness
[18:51] <deryck> rick_h_, looks like everything is settled now, from when you pinged me, yes?
[18:52] <rick_h_> deryck: yea, looks like no good way around it atm
[18:52] <deryck> rick_h_, ack
[18:54] <sidnei> rick_h_, sinzui, found a (really silly) workaround apparently: run 'bzr builddeb' locally with --dput=<ppa>, instead of using 'Request build' on the web.
[18:54] <sidnei> assuming the upload isn't rejected
[18:55] <sinzui> sidnei, oh, yes, I used to do that a lot. I didn't think to falling back to a non-lp request
[18:55] <sinzui> sidnei, I don't think it will be.
[18:56] <sidnei> cool
[18:59] <Rockj> sinzui: Thanks btw, Ill jump off to see if I can create an Intellij plugin or not :]
[22:44] <Karmaon> I see a more recent package in ppa from 2 hours ago, however apt-get still installs the old package
[22:50] <Lasall> Karmaon: which ppa?
[22:51] <Karmaon> https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/node.js/
[22:53] <Lasall> Karmaon: amd64 builds have not finished yet
[22:53] <Lasall> https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/node.js/+packages
[22:53] <Karmaon> Oh, I see.


[03:15] <TommyT> Greatings!
[03:16] <TommyT> Graetings, too!
[03:59] <TommyT> Good night, all!
[04:00] <az7> night!


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[07:57] <c_89> Good morning, I have formatted a USB flash drive with ext4 file system and I set permissions of mount point: drwxrwxrwx 777 (root:root) . But when I run a software to read data (on Xubuntu or on Android 11 device via OTG) I have only read permission. What solution do you suggest me?
[08:10] <gnrp> c_89: How do you mount it? You can set a uid or gid under which a FS would be mounted
[08:11] <gnrp> ah, no, sorry
[08:12] <gnrp> when you have an ext4 fs, then there are permissions stored on it, and these will be used. I don't know if you can overwrite it with uid/gid flags
[08:25] <c_89> gnrp that is what interests me is to be able to use a user who has write permissions on the device both when I connect the device on the desktop and when I use it on Android 11 through OTG
[08:40] <gnrp> c_89: I cannot directly help you, since I haven't done that either in years
[08:40] <gnrp> but you can find answers e.g. here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/422656/how-to-make-an-ext4-formatted-usb-drive-with-full-rw-permissions-for-any-linux-m/422687
[08:41] <gnrp> ing eneral, I would not use ext4 for a removable device, but rather exfat or something like that, which is more intended for that use


[02:27] <almoxarife> I was asked to return and gain voice after agreeing to follow the guidelines by pangolin, I am agreeing to do so.
[02:28] <almoxarife> I also would like to lose  my ip ident , I am confused about how to do it, I do have a launchpad id/pass
[02:29] <pangolin> almoxarife: I'm glad to see you decided to come back. Did you have any questions about the guidelines?
[02:29] <pangolin> almoxarife: you can join #freenode and ask for a cloak.
[02:33] <almoxarife> pangolin: actually there is one, the guidelines should include something about helping people first with the gui tools avail, I know trouble shooting is much easier with terminal, but the avg user like me is mostly clueless to terminal trouble shooting, and it would also go with the philosophy of ubuntu, otherwise I am in agreement
[02:35] <pangolin> almoxarife: ok I will remove the mute blocking you from ending to the channel. I do need to let you know that if we have any further issues it will be much more difficult to get unbanned.
[02:36] <almoxarife> pangolin: I would expect it to be, thnks
[02:37] <pangolin> as far as hiding your ip, join #freenode and ask in that channel for a cloak.
[02:37] <almoxarife> pangolin: thnks
[02:37] <pangolin> thank you. have a good night.
[02:38] <pangolin> heh
[16:07] <Jordan_U> Anyone awake that can watch maxxx in #ubuntu?
[16:10] <Jordan_U> #ubuntu could really use an op at the moment and I really need to leave.
[19:28] <ikonia> thank you Pici
[19:29] <Pici> you're welcome, but I'm not really here.
[19:29] <ikonia> me neither
[19:51] <GTRsdk> hi ikonia
[19:51] <ikonia> hello
[19:52] <ikonia> GTRsdk: I assume you know why you're banned ?
[19:52] <GTRsdk> I saw the quit message but that doesn't make sense
[19:53] <ikonia> GTRsdk: what OS are you using ?
[19:53] <GTRsdk> ikonia, Debian
[19:53] <ikonia> (even though we've just dont this in #debian - I'l do the dance again for you)
[19:53] <ikonia> GTRsdk: right, so you cross-posted your question in #debian and #ubuntu - and you used #ubuntu for non ubuntu support
[19:54] <GTRsdk> I probably should not have posted in #debian
[19:54] <GTRsdk> I do not know for sure if the package exists in there
[19:54] <GTRsdk> but I do know that it exists in Ubuntu
[19:54] <ikonia> you know this is unaceptable, you've used the channels long enough and had many warnings refresher of the rules
[19:54] <ikonia> so now you can take a little break from #ubuntu, as people can't be expected to monitor you 24x7
[19:56] <ikonia> hope it doesn't matter
[20:44]  * Pici sighs


[07:23] <Saviq> Morning \o
[07:54] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2880](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2880): Drop the dispmanx platform
[12:42] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #286](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/286): Drop workaround for 16.04 era compilers
[13:05] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths closed [pull request #2875](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2875): snap: mir-libs now has a `22` track, too
[15:56] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths closed [pull request #2734](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2734): Begin visual aspects of start_drag implementation
[16:24] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths opened [pull request #2881](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2881): Drive-by cleanup
[16:24] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[16:24] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > There's no longer any point in keeping miroil source-compatibile between 1.x and 2.x. It has been introduced and used in both places
[17:06] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths opened [pull request #2882](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2882): [mir-libs] bump timeout... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/7ec9ba72128a8f9befe3185e7e9e70ff489f54f5>)
[21:09] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2881](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2881): Drive-by cleanup