[00:00] <robertparkerx> when I upgrade PHP from 7.2 to 7.3 do I "apt purge" the cores and its packages?
[00:29] <Sven_vB> I'm looking for a video player that can play my playlist but automatically skip the first 9 seconds and last 22 seconds of each video. would be nice if it could even pretend they're not there, to help me avoid accidentially seeking into the intro/outro. any ideas?
[00:30] <martiansoul> how to update my version of qt5
[00:30] <martiansoul> ?
[00:30] <martiansoul> on ubuntu 18.04
[00:30] <martiansoul> ?
[00:30] <Sven_vB> currently I'm using avconv to cut out the good part, but that seems a waste of resources for such a should-be-easy feature.
[00:31] <lotuspsychje> Sven_vB: maybe with a player that support terminal commands, and start it from second 9
[00:32] <Sven_vB> oh there seems do be an addon for VLC
[00:34] <OerHeks> !info qt5-default
[00:35] <robertparkerx> I upgraded from PHP 7.2 to 7.3 and now it just prints the php document. I was told it was configs changed but what? I've got a lamp stack on ubuntu.
[00:35] <lotuspsychje> martiansoul: explain what you are trying to do please?
[00:35] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: updated how?
[00:35] <robertparkerx> I installed it and purged the others
[00:39] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: you on 18.04?
[00:39] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install build-essential qtcreator qt5-default qt5-doc qt5-doc-html qtbase5-doc-html qtbase5-examples  # and a restart makes it all work
[00:39] <robertparkerx> 18.10
[00:41] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: releasenotes of 18.10 mention php 7.2.10
[00:42] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: does 7.3 show in apt too, or you using a ppa?
[00:42] <robertparkerx> That's what I have. I wanted to upgrade to 7.3. I added a repo and installed it with packages. I
[00:42] <robertparkerx> ppa
[00:42] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: we dont really reccomend ppa's here sorry, we also cant support them
[00:42] <robertparkerx> So I probably shouldn't
[00:43] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: to keep ubuntu working like a charm, we can only reccomend using vanilla ubuntu
[00:43] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: whats the reason you need 7.3?
[00:43] <robertparkerx> I just wanted it. No real reason.
[00:44] <robertparkerx> It is a personal box that I play with to learn from.
[00:44] <lotuspsychje> !latest | robertparkerx ==> the ubuntu way
[00:44] <lotuspsychje> !latest
[00:44] <Sven_vB> oh nice, seems like modern VLC even has --start-time and --stop-time as CLI options. so in theory I can query avconv for the duration, then calculate the required CLI options.
[00:44] <lotuspsychje> +1 Sven_vB
[00:45] <martiansoul> lotuspsychje: i am trying to build kde module attica. the error logfile is like this: https://pastebin.com/3nr9jad0
[00:46] <martiansoul> lotuspsychje: so i thought that upgrading qt5 might be the solution.
[00:49] <fr0nk> hi :)
[00:52] <lotuspsychje> martiansoul: try what OerHeks suggested please
[00:54] <frank_> Does anyone know if the if statement in /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf can contain a string with spaces?
[00:56] <martiansoul> lotuspsychje: my apologies. i missed what OerHeks said. thanks!
[01:00] <Rockabilly> I am on Ubuntu 18.04 (the MATE flavor). I randomly lose my connection to my home network while logged in. It usually happens after ~10-15 minutes. Once I lose the connection I am unable to reconnect.  The only thing that seems to fix it is rebooting the entire system. This only happens on my home network and
[01:00] <Rockabilly> does not happen on any other devices.
[01:01] <lotuspsychje> Rockabilly: to debug things, try to keep a tail -f /var/log/syslog open maybe we catch usefull errors at your problems time
[01:02] <Rockabilly> lotuspsychje: I just opened that and a journalctl --follow open too. If I suddenly leave the room I will be back momentarily with more information.
[01:04] <TJ-> frank_: what 'if' statement, which Ubuntu release? I think you're referring to RainerScript, see https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/master/rainerscript/index.html
[01:04] <lotuspsychje> great Rockabilly, whats your network card chipset?
[01:04] <Rockabilly> (Now that I finally decide to do something about the issue it will, of course, have stopped doing it.)
[01:05] <Rockabilly> lotuspsychje: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88W8897 [AVASTAR] 802.11ac Wireless
[01:05] <martiansoul> I am using ubuntu 18.04 and using any irc client, i am never able to connect to the freenode server. why does this happen?
[01:06] <lotuspsychje> martiansoul: getting errors there?
[01:06] <martiansoul> lotuspsychje: not getting errors, but it just keeps on waiting endlessly.
[01:07] <frank_> TJ-: 18.04. I'm trying to forward messages using rsyslogd. the /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf contains if $programname == 'sshd' then { if $msg startswith 'Disconnected from authenticating user' then {...
[01:07] <frank_> TJ-: I'm evaluating if this is correct
[01:08] <lotuspsychje> martiansoul: do you connect chat.freenode.net with the SASL method?
[01:08] <martiansoul> yes.
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> martiansoul: waiting means, not connecting text at all?
[01:11] <martiansoul> lotuspsychje: server found connecting.... it keeps showing this.
[01:13] <Rockabilly> lotuspsychje: You know what I think it (the WiFi issue) was? The power save feature. I had previously changed the power save feature and, on inspection, noticed that I had changed it incorrectly. We'll call it that for now and see how it sits. Thanks for the advice! =D
[01:13] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: Can you connect without SASL?
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> welcome Rockabilly
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> !info colortail | Rockabilly another tip :p
[01:14] <martiansoul> Rockabilly: no not able to connect without sasl as well.
[01:15] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: Which clients have you tried?
[01:16] <Rockabilly> lotuspsychje: Does colortail function the same/have the same flags? (e.g. colortail -f /foo/bar)
[01:16] <martiansoul> konversation, quassel irc
[01:16] <TJ-> frank_: I don't see that on 18.04 here!
[01:16] <martiansoul> :Rockabilly
[01:16] <martiansoul> konversation, quassel irc
[01:17] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: Ok, just a moment.
[01:17] <martiansoul> lotuspsychje: i did what OerHeks said to install new qt. but running qtdiag, it still shows version 5.9.5
[01:17] <martiansoul> lotuspsychje: or do i need a restart to effect it?
[01:19] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: Is this a home network? In other words, do you own and maintain the network? Or is this a university's network/employer/public library? (sorry for the silly question)
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> Rockabilly: yes, works like a charm
[01:19] <martiansoul> Rockabilly: it is a university network i'm using
[01:20] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: Ports are blocked
[01:20] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: -> https://www.reddit.com/r/irc/comments/lzj1y/why_cant_i_connect_to_freenode_on_my_university/
[01:21] <martiansoul> Rockabilly: how come i am able to connect through the browser then?
[01:22] <lotuspsychje> martiansoul: apt-cache search attica, can you use some package there to make it work? dev perhaps?
[01:23] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: I am not knowledgable enough about networking and how the internet works to answer that. The thread I linked points out that webchat (the browser) works when a client will not. You can configure your client to use a different port. I'll have more info in a moment.
[01:23] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: i changed my network and will try to connect now
[01:24] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: also, how is it possible to connect through the browser when it is not possible to connect through client?
[01:25] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: As I stated above, I am not knowledgable enough about the network and the internet in general to answer that.
[01:26] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: okay. i must have missed those messages due to the network switch.
[01:26] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: No problem = D
[01:26] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: Which client is your preferred?
[01:27] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: konversation
[01:27] <martiansoul_> i used to use xchat but switched to konversation recently.
[01:28] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: I'll see about finding a configuration for that one. One moment
[01:28] <TJ-> martiansoul_: did you use 'qtchooser' to switch to QT5 ?
[01:28] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: Any luck on the new network?
[01:28] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: thanks. no, the network strength isn't enough, for one problem. :P so switched back to the university one only. :P
[01:29] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: That's good! Let's play with that one.
[01:29] <martiansoul_> TJ-: no. i did - sudo apt-get install build-essential qtcreator qt5-default qt5-doc qt5-doc-html qtbase5-doc-html qtbase5-examples
[01:30] <martiansoul_> TJ-: as suggested by OerHeks.
[01:30] <TJ-> martiansoul_: so you've now got both QT4 and QT5 installed presumably, and need to set the default using qtchooser
[01:31] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: What I want you to do is run the following command: nc -zv irc.freenode.net 6666 . You'll get an output that shows whether the port is open or closed. It'll look like this: Connection to irc.freenode.net 6666 port [tcp/*] succeeded!
[01:33] <woenx> hey, quick question. Is it normal that the file browser when opening a network or drive from the desktop is different from the default file browser?
[01:33] <martiansoul_> TJ-: before choosing i'd like to show you the output of qtdiag. it shows: https://pastebin.com/myMn9FB1
[01:33] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: just a moment.
[01:33] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: I see others helping you. Please take your time. =D
[01:34] <martiansoul_> TJ-: it shows that i have qt 5.9.5 but i want to have 5.10.1 for building kde packages.
[01:34] <CarlFK> I saw a box boot into the grub menu that had "Debian / Advanced /  uefi setup"  - Where did the uefi setup come from?
[01:34] <TJ-> martiansoul_: oh, well then you won't be able to without building the QT 5.10.1 tooling and libraries
[01:35] <CarlFK> I am guessing a package, like gurb-eufi or -efi or -setupefi or or or...
[01:35] <martiansoul_> TJ-: how to build that?
[01:35] <TJ-> CarlFK: that's just a menu entry added by update-grub/grub-mkconfig when on an EFI system, it calls the system firmware setup
[01:36] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: i ran the command a minute or so ago and it still is running
[01:36] <TJ-> martiansoul_: it's not worth it, you'll end up chasing down a rabbit hole of yet more libraries that have to be upgraded
[01:36] <martiansoul_> TJ-: then how to build kde packages? :P
[01:36] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: Hit CTRL+C to exit the command and type nc -zv irc.freenode.net 443
[01:37] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: wait it showed: nc: connect to irc.freenode.net port 6666 (tcp) failed: Connection timed out
[01:37] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: Check port 443 with the above command.
[01:37] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: succeeded! :D
[01:38] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: Awesome! So we'll configure your client to connect through port 443 and you should be golden! Let me double check how to do that in konversation (it should be on the network setup menu, but I use IRSSI, so I am not sure about those GUI clients)
[01:39] <krytarik> That's not an IRC port on Freenode though.
[01:39] <TJ-> martiansoul_: which version of attica are you trying to build?
[01:40] <Rockabilly> krytarik: Good looking out.
[01:41] <martiansoul_> TJ-: actually i was trying to build kbruch. and building that failed due to several successive package build fails. so i was trying to build each one by checking its error log individually. attica was just one of them.
[01:41] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: Does that mean we have to use another port?
[01:42] <TJ-> martiansoul_: you'll find youself having to build the entire KDE stack; the best way to get a later version is install a later version of Ubuntu that has it
[01:42] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: I am double checking. I see stuff online where people are able to access freenode through that port when they're on a restricted network, but I, again, I'm not a network guy. (I'm a Rockabilly guy)
[01:42] <martiansoul_> TJ-: and attica failed due to this: https://pastebin.com/u5j0bHkB
[01:43] <TJ-> !info qt5-default cosmic
[01:43] <martiansoul_> TJ-: yes, i guess so. :P i just upgraded my ubuntu just a week ago by doing sudo do-release-upgrade. how to upgrade it even more?
[01:44] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: Earlier you asked why the website would work when the client is blocked. Apparently the website connects through port 443. That would be why.
[01:45] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: Okay. i was also thinking that through the client we try to connect to chat.freenode.net and the website is web.freenode.net, so both should fundamentally be different i thought. :P
[01:45] <krytarik> Rockabilly, martiansoul_: The webchat connects to the IRC server internally.
[01:45] <Rockabilly> krytarik: Thanks for the information.
[01:45] <martiansoul_> krytarik: okay.
[01:46] <Rockabilly> krytarik: Any suggestions for martiansoul_'s issue? It looks like their university network has the usual ports blocked off and can't connect via a client.
[01:46] <martiansoul_> TJ-: and what does this mean: !info qt5-default cosmic
[01:46] <krytarik> martiansoul_: Could try if any of the ports listed here works for you: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/chat
[01:47] <malwar3hun73r> i'm aware or rsync and use it extensively, however, it requires that a file listing be retrieved from the destination with each execution
[01:47] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: Here's the configuration page for konversation. -> https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/extragear-network/konversation/serverlist.html
[01:47] <bruh> hello
[01:48] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: i was googling the same. Thanks.
[01:48] <malwar3hun73r> i'm wanting to sync to some cloud storage and want to avoid the unnecessary requests - is there a tool that keeps a record locally?
[01:48] <jakes> hi folks
[01:48] <bruh> E P I C
[01:48] <krytarik> martiansoul_: And that one is simply a command for the channel bot.
[01:48] <jakes> I have a new installation on a laptop with a somewhat flakey battery
[01:48] <martiansoul_> krytarik: oh, okay!
[01:48] <Rockabilly> martiansoul_: You can test a port by using nc -zv irc.freenode.net <PORT NUMBER>, once you find one that works just plug it into the client and try to connect via the client.
[01:48] <jakes> how can I trigger hibernation as soon as it's unplugged?
[01:49] <martiansoul_> Rockabilly: yes. thanks!
[01:49] <martiansoul_> trying it now.
[01:50] <Rockabilly> jakes: Have you seen this? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/87728/acpid-hibernate-when-unplugged
[01:50] <bruh> do you guys know any helpful for someone new to linux
[01:50] <jakes> Rockabilly, not that I recall
[01:51] <bruh> quit what?
[01:51] <Rockabilly> bruh: Google, Freenode, and Stack Exchange are the things that help me the most. What kind of help are you looking for? Becoming comfortable with the command line? How the system works? How to install stuff? Uninstall stuff?
[01:53] <bruh> how to install and  Uninstall
[01:53] <martiansoul_> krytarik: it seems like all the ports are blocked. any way out of this?
[01:53] <Rockabilly> bruh: You come from Windows?
[01:54] <bruh> yee
[01:54] <qwebirc67101> hello
[01:54] <qwebirc67101> can someone help me
[01:54] <bruh> hi
[01:54] <bruh> with?
[01:54] <qwebirc67101> i tried to run fluxion.sh
[01:54] <qwebirc67101> but this happend
[01:55] <Rockabilly> bruh: Ok, cool! Welcome to Linux! Installing stuff works a little differently. In windows you download an executable, a .exe, and run it and it does stuff for you. In Linux you generally use a package manager. Ubuntu uses apt, though snap is becoming popular.
[01:55] <Rockabilly> !apt bruh
[01:55] <bruh> ok thanks
[01:55] <qwebirc67101> i use terminal
[01:55] <Rockabilly> !apt
[01:55] <SlidingHorn> qwebirc67101: fluxion is not supported here.  You'll need to contact the developers
[01:55] <qwebirc67101> hmm
[01:55] <qwebirc67101> i tried to crack wifi password
[01:55] <qwebirc67101> i need free wifi rn
[01:56] <SlidingHorn> qwebirc67101: Sorry, we can't help you here.
[01:56] <Rockabilly> bruh: It's not that complicated to learn, but you'll get it faster if you read the manual instead of me explaining it.
[01:56] <qwebirc67101> ok
[01:56] <Rockabilly> qwebirc67101: Public library generally has free network access.
[01:56] <krytarik> martiansoul_: Except of connecting through a VPN, Tor, or similar, no.  Could just live with using webchat of course though.
[01:57] <martiansoul> krytarik: yes, but webchat doesn't have the capability of saving logs and stuff, so...
[01:57] <bruh> brb
[01:57] <martiansoul> krytarik: but thanks anyways.
[01:59] <martiansoul> Rockabilly: is it possible to solve the blocked issues problem using vpn? i mean could we put in a layer of vpn at the mouth of konversation or any other client? do you think this is possible?
[01:59] <martiansoul> blocked *ports
[02:00] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: From what I understand of ports and VPNs, that's like asking: "If I drive a different car into the closed gate, will I manage to get through?" If the port is closed, it's closed.
[02:03] <martiansoul> Rockabilly: okay. that's a nice analogy. :D But then how do web proxies work when the university has blocked certain websites from access, then how do web proxy websites allow us to access those websites? just curious.
[02:04] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: It appears as though I am wrong. I am reading about it now. Apparently a VPN can be used to bypass a blocked port, at least at the ISP level? I'm learning a lot about networking tonight!
[02:04] <bruh> (44.244167, 7.769444
[02:04] <martiansoul> Rockabilly: Oh.. okay.
[02:05] <bruh> paste this in to google maps (44.244167, 7.769444
[02:05] <bruh>
[02:05] <bruh>
[02:05] <bruh>
[02:05] <bruh>
[02:05] <bruh>
[02:05] <bruh>
[02:05] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: I am truly an awful person to ask networking/internet questions. Have you tried asking around in ##linux?
[02:06] <SlidingHorn> !paste | bruh
[02:06] <martiansoul> Rockabilly: i actually don't know about which channels to ask which questions in. so.... will ask now.
[02:07] <Rockabilly> martiansoul: the general linux channel, ##linux, is often very helpful to me
[02:07] <martiansoul> Rockabilly: Oh.. okay.
[02:08] <krytarik> martiansoul: And there is ##networking too.
[02:08] <martiansoul> krytarik: oh. thanks!
[02:09] <Sveta> martiansoul: freenode listens to ports 7070 (SSL) also, have you tried that?
[02:09] <Sveta> martiansoul: and also 7000 in plain text
[02:09] <Rockabilly> Thanks krytarik !
[02:10] <martiansoul> Sveta: yes. tried that. it too is blocked.
[02:10] <SlidingHorn> bruh: please don't PM folks without asking - especially if you're just doing it to swear at them for giving you information on how to properly get assistance.
[02:10] <Sveta> martiansoul: there is webchat (freenode's webchat or kiwiirc)
[02:11] <Sveta> martiansoul: or ask your system administrator to unblock irc ports if thye want you to be able to chat
[02:11] <Sveta> martiansoul: as they may penalise you in the case they do not expect you to be chatting from work
[02:12] <krytarik> Sveta: It's a uni network btw.
[02:14] <martiansoul> Sveta: it's a university network.
[02:40] <woenx> Hey. Is it normal that I get two diferent file browsers, one if I launch it from the main menu (the default one) and another one if I open some shortcut in the desktop? (like a hard drive or a network location)
[02:46] <krytarik> woenx: Is this Ubuntu proper or a flavor?
[02:47] <woenx> ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[02:47] <woenx> the one with gnome
[02:47] <woenx> desktop edition
[02:47] <krytarik> Ok, thanks.
[02:48] <woenx> installed it two weeks ago
[02:49] <woenx> oh, now I can't replicate it...
[02:50] <woenx> what other file browsers are installed by default, aside from Nautilus?
[02:50] <krytarik> None.
[02:50] <woenx> there's one where the left panel is greyish instead of black
[02:51] <krytarik> Check its "About"?
[02:51] <woenx> ok, it's nemo
[02:52] <woenx> but now it doesn't start instead of nautilus for desktop elements, so it's fine
[02:53] <woenx> Weird. It isn't supposed to be installed by default, right? will it break something if I just remove it using apt?
[02:54] <krytarik> Yeah, was just about to suggest trying the '-s' on it.
[02:54] <krytarik> Erm, option - for similute.
[02:54] <woenx> it seems that the bluetooth manager (blueman) depends on it
[02:54] <woenx> as well as a bunch of other packages...
[02:55] <woenx> weird
[02:57] <krytarik> Pastebin the full output of that?  Because: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/blueman
[02:58] <OerHeks> nemo and blueman are not even standard, how odd
[03:00] <nitak> hi
[03:02] <Sveta> martiansoul: perhaps chat with your system administrator to reach agreement
[03:02] <Sveta> martiansoul: about whether they want you to use the university facilities for chat or not
[03:02] <Sveta> martiansoul: if they do, you will need port 6697 or 7070 for connecting to freenode via an encrypted connection, and you can point them to www.freenode.net
[03:02] <woenx> krytarik, https://pastebin.com/cqxweWbU
[03:03] <Sveta> martiansoul: also show them the relevant page at Wikipedia
[03:03] <woenx> I don't know, I use blueman for my keyboard, mouse and headphones, and I thought it was there by default
[03:03] <Sveta> martiansoul: and any relevant FOSS channels, such as this one -- if they use ubuntu for homework, show them to the page at ubuntu wiki which outlines their IRC chat support service facilities
[03:03] <martiansoul> Sveta: i don't understand which relevant page?
[03:03] <martiansoul> Sveta: oh. okay. i get it.
[03:04] <Sveta> martiansoul: for example if they use 'ubuntu' for uni assignments, link them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[03:04] <Sveta> martiansoul: or if they use wikipedia actively, link them to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC
[03:04] <Sveta> martiansoul: the same for any other relevant project whose discussion would benefit your performance at the uni
[03:04] <martiansoul> Sveta: yes. sure. this can be tried.
[03:05] <martiansoul> thanks!
[03:05] <Sveta> cool, I'd be glad to help you speak with their system administrator if they're super clear about this - just speak to me if they don't let you in
[03:05] <Sveta> if they're not willing to get the idea that is
[03:06] <martiansoul> Sveta: yes. sure. i will. thanks again! :)
[03:06] <Sveta> ok
[03:12] <krytarik> woenx: Do you have any PPAs or third-party repos added to your software sources?.. >_>
[03:15] <Rockabilly> When I plugin an android device to my computer I am unable to see it. I have MTP enabled on the device. Any tips?
[03:16] <woenx> krytarik, yes, a few ones...
[03:17] <krytarik> woenx: But even then, provided a packaging anywhere near sane, it's hard to think of a way to end up with this list of hugely unrelated packages..
[03:17] <woenx> for google chrome, for mono-official, for the fingerprint reader, and for indicator-sysmonitor
[03:17] <woenx> anyway, it's no big deal
[03:22] <qwebirc86643> I had a Debian 9 router, worked perfectly. I switched to Ubuntu 18.04.1 and I have a game that now disconnects and freezes. https://pastebin.com/8VHPdysG
[03:23] <qwebirc86643> Could it be the tcp_available_congestion_control algorithm?
[03:31] <bodom> Hi there! How do i configure cgroups in ubuntu?
[03:32] <dr_hrb> Rylysene Citrate!
[03:32] <dr_hrb> dr.hrb.freeshell.net
[04:14] <ubuntu> ok
[06:05] <sansGato> dw1 sent me...
[06:25] <Need__Expert> Can somebody help me with syslink in Ubuntu / SSL Cert? https://paste2.org/FPAhAzH4
[06:28] <Need__Expert> sorry *https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mtZnvKKnHc/
[06:28] <tomreyn> Need__Expert: which ubuntu version is this?
[06:30] <tomreyn> it's usueful to always state which ubuntu version, which application / software and which of its functionality you are seeking help with, as well as any non standard configurations and software sources which you are using which might come into play there.
[06:31] <tomreyn> you seem to be seeking support with apache httpd version 2.2.x, specifically its SSL/TLS configuration, on some ubuntu version?
[06:32] <Need__Expert> 16.04
[06:32] <Need__Expert> 16.04 , I'm using Apache2, Instance was created on EC2. I'm trying to install my SSL from CloudFlare. I believe I'm stuck on the SLCACertificatePath hash symlinks
[06:36] <tomreyn> Need__Expert: use "CACertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt"
[06:36] <tomreyn> i.e. not CACertificatePath
[06:37] <tomreyn> actually either should probably work, YMMV
[06:38] <tomreyn> Need__Expert: what makes you thinkt hat SSLCACertificatePath is a problem?
[06:38] <Need__Expert> I set it to SSLCACertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt
[06:39] <tomreyn> and?
[06:39] <tomreyn> i have not yet seen an error message
[06:39] <Need__Expert> restarted apache, https://carinsurance-usa.net/
[06:39] <Need__Expert> 521 Error
[06:40] <tomreyn> the vhost you posted a configuration for is .com
[06:40] <Need__Expert> Im an idiot.
[06:41] <tomreyn> sorry to hear this!
[06:41] <SlidingHorn> Need__Expert: Things like that happen to the best of us - no worries!
[06:41] <tomreyn> yes, happens all the time
[06:42] <Need__Expert> hmm well, glad I fixed that, but still having the same error
[06:42] <tomreyn> so what did you fix then?
[06:42] <Need__Expert> the servername domain
[06:44] <tomreyn> okay, you'll need to inspect this in cloudflares' web panel, we can't tell form here what the issue is unless oyu'll provide mroe info
[06:45] <tomreyn> the only info CF exposes there is that it is "unable to reach your web server", which ca have many reasons, including incorrect SSL configurations, but also firewall rules.
[06:46] <tomreyn> actually it doesn't say unable to reach, but unable to make use of, eeven less epcific.
[06:46] <thaurwylth> https://askubuntu.com/questions/405699/does-apt-get-stop-working-after-support-ends  That question by user2323932, is there currently any time interval of how long old repositories are kept?
[06:47] <tomreyn> thaurwylth: since support ends at EOL, this is not specified.
[06:48] <tomreyn> and, by experience, the time varies.
[06:48] <tomreyn> why would you ask such questions in the first place, though?
[06:49] <Need__Expert> They don't give any errors on their end besides that. Yes, this is definitely |Inside SSLCACertificatePath you need hash symlinks| I'm not sure what they mean by that
[06:50] <tomreyn> Need__Expert: read the ca-certificates man page and take a look at the /etc/ssl/certs directory.
[06:52] <tomreyn> you'll see a lot of 8 hex character +".n" (where 'n' is a number) symlinks which point to .pem files. this is what the SSLCACertificatePath documentation you found refers to, and what ca-certificates automates
[06:53] <tomreyn> ca-certificates manages symbolic links from ca certificates' serial numbers to the respective ca certificate files.
[06:55] <tomreyn> Need__Expert: i'll repeat, because what i just wrote may have been lost when my client disconnected:
[06:55] <tomreyn> read the ca-certificates man page. also take a look at the /etc/ssl/certs directory: you'll see a lot of 8 hex character +".n" (where 'n' is a number) symlinks which point to .pem files. this is what the SSLCACertificatePath documentation you found refers to, and what ca-certificates automates. ca-certificates manages symbolic links from ca certificates' serial numbers to the respective ca certificate files.
[06:56] <tomreyn> also, while i never used CF myself, i'm pretty sure they expose more information on the error, or this would be impossible to diagnose.
[06:57] <tomreyn> (and then no one would use CF)
[06:57] <Need__Expert> hmm ok so I need to add the cert to the config file, then run update-ca-certificates
[07:06] <secretshubhz998> !nick StickyPanda
[07:10] <Need__Expert> cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt does not contain a certificate or CRL: skipping
[07:10] <Need__Expert> What does this mean?
[07:12] <tomreyn> Need__Expert: that its contents could not be interepreted as a certificate (or, probably not relevant to your cause, a certificate revocation list).
[07:12] <tomreyn> Need__Expert: it probably means that the file is either empty or incorrectly formatted
[07:18] <Need__Expert> I think it was due to a duplicate crt, as the crt was added to the ca-certificates file
[07:19] <tomreyn> if this was the reason then this message would be quite misleading
[07:21] <Need__Expert> 2:30 am here, going to call it a night and get back to this tomorrow
[07:21] <Need__Expert> tomreyn, I appreciate your time and help man
[07:21] <Need__Expert> have a good night bud
[07:21] <tomreyn> $ file cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt
[07:21] <tomreyn> cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt: PEM certificate
[07:22] <Need__Expert> O damn, what's that?
[07:22] <tomreyn> $ sha256sum cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt
[07:22] <tomreyn> 2150e1b58d4608ff5da2d6301301b292f589714300a889124383c72cecd3ebb1  cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt
[07:22] <tomreyn> if you don't get this output then your downloaded crt is wrong
[07:23] <Need__Expert> In what folder do I run sha256sum cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt
[07:24] <tomreyn> doesn't matter, you run it against where you placed the file, which is probably in /etc/ssl/certs or /usr/share/ca-certificates/
[07:25] <Need__Expert> bbfd7d7cb36aa0ac11c4f5906f792dac38789483258d2a5a057cb3713bc15bfd  /etc/ssl/certs/cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt
[07:26] <tomreyn> make that: sha256sum $(readlink -f /etc/ssl/certs/cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt)
[07:27] <Need__Expert> bbfd7d7cb36aa0ac11c4f5906f792dac38789483258d2a5a057cb3713bc15bfd  /etc/ssl/certs
[07:27] <tomreyn> i assume this output is cut off.
[07:28] <Need__Expert> bbfd7d7cb36aa0ac11c4f5906f792dac38789483258d2a5a057cb3713bc15bfd  /etc/ssl/certs/cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt
[07:28] <Need__Expert> correct. my bad
[07:28] <tomreyn> so you have the wrong file
[07:28] <Need__Expert> what the heck lol, how do you know this?
[07:29] <tomreyn> https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/218689638 is the correc tone
[07:29] <tomreyn> you have a file whose checksum doesn't match the one CF publishes
[07:29] <Need__Expert> It's suppose to be a .pem file eh?
[07:29] <tomreyn> file names are irrelevant
[07:30] <Need__Expert> Would white space at the bottom of my file make this output different?
[07:31] <tomreyn> yes
[07:31] <Need__Expert> as the content is identical to Cloudflare Origin CA — RSA Root that you showed me
[07:31] <Need__Expert> from that link
[07:31] <Need__Expert> so..would white space cause it to not work as well?
[07:32] <tomreyn> i wouldn't expect this, if it is at the very bottom, not withint the dash markers
[07:32] <Need__Expert> yes, it's at the very bottom
[07:32] <tomreyn> on the other hand ca-certificates was apparentl ynot able to make sense of your file, so...
[07:33] <Need__Expert> mann..ok I saved all of this info and I will get to this in the morning. 2:30 am here
[07:33] <Need__Expert> thanks again for your time
[07:34] <tomreyn> openssl x509 -in /etc/ssl/certs/cloudflare_origin_rsa.crt -text
[07:34] <tomreyn> this willhave openssl test whether it can read + interpret the file
[07:34] <tomreyn> yw
[07:35] <Need__Expert> unable to load certificate
[07:35] <Need__Expert><PHONE_NUMBER>19992:error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line:pem_lib.c:701:Expecting: TRUSTED CERTIFICATE
[07:36] <tomreyn> your file's not in the right format, or unreadable due to file system permissions
[07:36] <Need__Expert> probably needs to be .pem instead of .crt in apache2 config
[07:37] <tomreyn> this wont matter
[07:37] <tomreyn> if openssl cant read it like this, apache2 wont be able to either (unless it's just a permissions issue)
[07:38] <Need__Expert> hmm I created the files using vim , then copied content into it, then saved
[07:38] <tomreyn> that's a good way to complicate matter by introducing human errors
[07:39] <tomreyn> if you have a file which must be used exactly as it is, and a download of the ready-made file is offered, then use the download
[07:39] <tomreyn> i.e. dont edit, dont copy and paste
[07:39] <tomreyn> (but do inspect the file you downloaded before you use it)
[07:39] <tomreyn> this may seem silly and stubborn, but is one of the basic rules you learn doing sysadmin for a while
[07:40] <Need__Expert> only reason I do that though is because I don't know download command for my desktop to SSH
[07:41] <tomreyn> scp remoteuser@remoteserver:/path/on/remote/server/file_on_remote_server.extension /local/computers/path/
[07:42] <tomreyn> scp = secure copy, a command from the openssh family to copy files between servers
[07:43] <tomreyn> or jyou could use wget to download the file right from the internet (the page i pointed you to): wget https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/206709108/cloudflare_origin_rsa.pem
[07:44] <tomreyn> i'm gone for a while, have a good night
[08:28] <Ascavasaion> Iam trying to figure out what chipset my motherboard uses in order to see what CPU's it supports.  I have tried both dmidecode and hwinfo and neither gives me the chipset.  I suspect it should eb returning GL40 from Googling the laptop model, but it seems the laptop was released with different chipsets.
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> Ascavasaion: try inxi -F
[08:31] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: Only seems to give CPU info.
[08:32] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: Ignor eme... I used -f instead of -F
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> Ascavasaion: no mobo type?
[08:35] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: Yes!  thanky ou
[08:36] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: No chipset though... but I guess Googling the mobo model will give me the chipset.
[08:37] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: it should give you the revision as well, which might help
[08:43] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: It says "v: REFERENCE"... It was unable to read the revision?
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> paste in channel please?
[08:43] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: It says "v: REFERENCE"... It was unable to read the revision?
[08:44] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: i'd ask in ##hardware
[08:44] <Ascavasaion>            Mobo: LENOVO model: NITU1 v: REFERENCE serial: N/A
[08:44] <Ascavasaion>            BIOS: LENOVO v: 18CN46WW(V2.55) date: 05/21/2010
[08:44] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: Thank you... appreciate the pointer.
[08:52] <vbedds> sup guys
[08:53] <ducasse> \o
[08:53] <vbedds> any ubuntu "experts" @ ?
[08:53] <ducasse> if you have a question just go ahead and ask, people will respond if they can
[08:53] <vbedds> oh.. okk
[08:55] <vbedds> i'm getting hacked everyday... only use usb drive.. using latest kubuntu 18.. any tips ?
[08:55] <ducasse> hacked? how so?
[08:56] <vbedds> ur asking me ? :)))
[08:56] <vbedds> i'm a newbie..
[08:56] <ducasse> how do you know you've been hacked?
[08:57] <vbedds> stuff doesn't work as normal.. stuff dissapear... files appear..
[08:57] <vbedds> stuff appears like SSH...
[08:58] <vbedds> things i install everyday (since i boot from usb) won't install anymore...
[08:58] <ducasse> maybe the usb stick is going bad, that's more likely than you being hacked
[08:59] <vbedds> is brand new
[08:59] <Ascavasaion> a dud USB stick?
[08:59] <vbedds> and folders like openSSH just appear in my temporary folder ???
[08:59] <vbedds> common mate... that doesn't .. "just happen"
[09:00] <vbedds> Ascavasaion pardon ?
[09:00] <vbedds> usb drive ?
[09:01] <ducasse> i still think you should try another usb stick
[09:01] <vbedds> already have buddy
[09:05] <ducasse> it's just that the chance of you actually being hacked is very, very unlikely
[09:05] <vbedds> for most people
[09:05] <vbedds> i've changed laptops as welll
[09:05] <ducasse> do you have any data worth going after?
[09:06] <vbedds> something like that
[09:06] <vbedds> i can see ur not going to be much help r u ?
[09:07] <vbedds> it's the thirt time i say this...
[09:07] <ducasse> it's just a very rare occurence, is all i was saying
[09:07] <vbedds> folders like openssh appear in my /tmp folder
[09:08] <vbedds> is that not obvious enough ?
[09:08] <ducasse> another thing is that any half-decent hacker would do their thing without you noticing
[09:09] <vbedds> hahahahhahahahahhahaha
[09:09] <vbedds> how about permanently watching my temporary files ?
[09:09] <vbedds> by using a simple watch command
[09:11] <vbedds> if u had any idea what ur talking about u would have reacted when i first said things don't install the same...
[09:12] <ducasse> is this a live image?
[09:12] <vbedds> yes
[09:12] <ducasse> which release?
[09:12] <vbedds> latest 18 kubuntu
[09:13] <ducasse> 18.10?
[09:13] <vbedds> yes
[09:13] <vbedds> that is the one
[09:16] <ducasse> well, if things install properly on one boot and not on the next that could still be a medium error
[09:16] <vbedds> i've changed the usb drive
[09:17] <vbedds> changed the operating system...
[09:17] <vbedds> changed the laptop
[09:17] <vbedds> changed to fedora ubuntu mint suse and kubuntu
[09:17] <ducasse> you can try asking the folks in #security if you want, list your symptoms for them
[09:18] <vbedds> :))))))
[09:18] <vbedds> channel is invite only
[09:18] <vbedds> y did u waste my time ?
[09:19] <ducasse> shouldn't be, you just need to be registered
[09:19] <vbedds> sure thing mate
[09:19] <vbedds> have a nice 1
[09:20] <ducasse> most people we have here who think they've been hacked are having some other problem
[09:20] <ducasse> you too
[09:24] <Ascavasaion> How rude... sheesh.
[09:25] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: You are a far more tolerant person than me.
[09:25] <ducasse> not really the best way to get people to help
[09:26] <ducasse> :)
[09:26] <alkisg> Hi all. Has anyone noticed 100% CPU usage on the firefox "download/open with" dialog?
[09:26] <alkisg> For example on Ubuntu MATE 18.04, I click on http://download-ib01.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/29/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/s/shim-x64-15-7.x86_64.rpm
[09:26] <alkisg> And in the dialog that appears, when I toggle between "open with/save as", it lags 2-3 secs, giving me 100% cpu usage. Can anyone reproduce this?
[09:32] <SirNeo> /clear
[09:39] <Ascavasaion> Is there a Linux equivalent for CPU-Z and hwinfo as shown in this picture please?  https://digilander.libero.it/effesse2002/Lenovo_G550.jpg  I could not find this info in hwinfo, dmidecode, hardinfo, or inxi.
[09:41] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: https://alternativeto.net/software/cpu-z/?platform=linux
[09:41] <Triffid_Hunter> Ascavasaion: should all be in /proc/cpuinfo or /sys/devices/system/cpu
[09:41] <Triffid_Hunter> Ascavasaion: although some of those values look like they're from a look-up table in the app, derived from available cpu flags
[10:07] <Exterminador> can someone tell me how bad this is: https://pastebin.com/FHiTZGUg
[10:10] <blackflow> Exterminador: tried to ask google? first link suggests it's a harmless warning, and points at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=592834
[10:20] <Exterminador> so it seems that it only occurs when using lvm.. that's what I was finding odd because my home PC wasn't throwing any errors but my VPS was
[10:21] <RonaldsMazitis> hello, my ubuntu is pressing page up
[10:21] <RonaldsMazitis> itself
[10:21] <RonaldsMazitis> how do I turn off that button
[10:21] <RonaldsMazitis> xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = '
[10:22] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[10:22] <RonaldsMazitis> what's the number for page up?
[10:22] <super_koza> Hi!
[10:22] <super_koza> Since I installed Xubuntu on my laptop, I am having issues with the wireless speeds.
[10:22] <super_koza> I have tried changing the wifi card, but that didn't solve the problems.
[10:22] <super_koza> It really seems the problem is with the Xubuntu, because other devices in my network do not suffer from these problems.
[10:24] <RonaldsMazitis> super_koza: xubuntu is just ubuntu with xfce, it's basicly same ubuntu
[10:24] <super_koza> I know
[10:24] <RonaldsMazitis> I don't think there is difference in networking
[10:24] <RonaldsMazitis> 18.04?
[10:25] <super_koza> Well, my android phones and other PCs running linux get the full bandwith.
[10:25] <super_koza> Only this PC is slow as hell.
[10:25] <super_koza> As I said, I tried swapping the network card as I thought it might be dead, but no. Same speeds...
[10:25] <RonaldsMazitis> I personally use openbox as desktop environment, but that would not help internet speeds
[10:26] <super_koza> Yes 18.04
[10:26] <RonaldsMazitis> install gnome and check out
[10:26] <Exterminador> AFAIK, internet speeds has nothing to do with the DE?
[10:26] <super_koza> I know
[10:27] <super_koza> I am just saying that something with my config must be broken
[10:27] <super_koza> With cable it is working fine...
[10:27] <blackflow> super_koza: can you give an example? also, which wifi chipset is it?
[10:28] <Exterminador> it also depends on the number of connected devices to your WiFi network? did you tried with just your laptop connected?
[10:29] <blackflow> yeah, some hotspots will also reduce global bandwidth according to the slowest connected device
[10:30] <super_koza> I'll be back later, I have to go now...
[10:30] <Exterminador> I have currently 8 devices connected to my WiFi and there's always one device slower than the average
[10:30] <RonaldsMazitis> xmodmap -pke
[10:31] <RonaldsMazitis> gives number of button, which one is page up?
[10:31] <RonaldsMazitis> I need to disable this button
[10:31] <RonaldsMazitis> I have two keyboards, I already disabled main keyboard, cause it was acting weird, now my second keyboard is acting weird
[10:32] <blackflow> RonaldsMazitis: you can use xev to check that out
[10:32] <RonaldsMazitis> how
[10:33] <RonaldsMazitis> just xev
[10:33] <blackflow> RonaldsMazitis: run it from a terminal and read its output as you hit page up. close it by closing the little window it opens. also check the manpage for further info.
[10:34] <blackflow> the window is there for mouse events, fyi.
[10:35] <RonaldsMazitis> \https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9jTYjzfdmV/
[10:35] <RonaldsMazitis> 48?
[10:35] <RonaldsMazitis> 112?
[10:35] <blackflow> well it says keycode 112
[10:36] <blackflow> RonaldsMazitis: note also the keysym value and name, for situations where you need those, not sure what you're doing there exactly.
[10:37] <RonaldsMazitis> xmodmap -e 'keycode 112 = '
[10:37] <RonaldsMazitis> this should disable page up?
[10:38] <blackflow> RonaldsMazitis: don't know myself, quick googling suggests you need to set value  0x0000
[10:38] <blackflow> keycode 112 = 0x0000
[10:39] <RonaldsMazitis> xmodmap -e 'keycode 112 = 0x0000;
[10:39] <RonaldsMazitis> xmodmap -e 'keycode 112 = 0x0000'
[10:39] <blackflow> RonaldsMazitis: yes
[10:40] <RonaldsMazitis> ok, I forgot to write down orginal keysim
[10:40] <RonaldsMazitis> damn
[10:40] <RonaldsMazitis> can You check out
[10:41] <RonaldsMazitis> fast/
[10:41] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[10:41] <maki> anyone have experience with xps 15 9560? I'm having issues with getting the damn thing to install properly, constantly getting bootlocks and I have no idea how i can run any of those commands when the damn thing won't detect my wifi card
[10:41] <blackflow> RonaldsMazitis: keycode 112 (keysym 0xff55, Prior)
[10:42] <RonaldsMazitis> my web browser still understands page up
[10:43] <maki> just attempting to run these commands : https://gist.github.com/leoheck/c44e2167f0c90f56342aed3ba4299670
[10:44] <blackflow> RonaldsMazitis: so what's your xmodmap line like?
[10:45] <RonaldsMazitis> xmodmap -e 'keycode 112 = 0x0000'
[10:45] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[10:45] <blackflow> maki: so which kernel are you actually using?
[10:45] <cappe> can ubuntu be started with easybcd (dualbooting with eufi windows10)?
[10:45] <RonaldsMazitis> keycode 112 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol)
[10:46] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: that URL you gave me was really nice... cpu-x is an awesome utility.
[10:46] <blackflow> RonaldsMazitis: try keysym instead of keycode.     -e 'keysym 0xff55 = 0x0000'
[10:46] <shqip> Plugin "PODRenderer" missing, maybe you need to install it? how may I solve this anyone !
[10:47] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: great :)
[10:48] <maki> @blackflow: probably 4.19
[10:48] <maki> *4.18
[10:49] <blackflow> maki: well, be sure. I have no idea what your problem might be, but if you're trying to run the mainline kernel, you'll have to select in on boot. I'm assuming grub autodetects them and produces adequate menu options?
[10:50] <blackflow> also note that those mainline kernels are not indended for regular use
[10:50] <maki> Is it normal for me not to be able to see grub in later versions of ubuntu?
[10:50] <maki> i'm used to having a bootloader like CLOVER or something, but I just see a pink magenta screen flash and boom disappear, was that grub?
[10:51] <blackflow> maki: hold shift on boot, it's hidden by default
[10:52] <maki> Darn UX designers man
[10:52] <maki> improving the user experience for the average person
[10:52] <maki> sigh
[10:53] <blackflow> yes. less unreadable technical clutter for the regular person. powerusers can still access power options. too bad the rest of ubuntu ain't like that :)
[10:54] <maki> this is the worst ubuntu installation experience i've ever had
[10:54] <maki> is it always this atrocious on laptops?
[10:54] <blackflow> probably not.
[10:56] <maki> I held shift, did i hold the wrong shift? LOL
[10:57] <ducasse> try spamming escape
[10:58] <maki> holy hsit
[10:58] <maki> the escape spam
[10:58] <blackflow> maki: comment out GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden   from /etc/default/grub  , run update-grub, and reboot.   that'll always show the menu
[10:58] <maki> uh, i hit the grub terminal
[10:58] <maki> how do i get out
[10:59] <maki> :q isn't working
[10:59] <maki> fuck, exit was not the right command
[10:59] <blackflow> what grub terminal
[11:00] <maki> is grub usually just grub>
[11:00] <blackflow> a) command line edit mode?  b) grub failure prompt?  c) something else?
[11:00] <blackflow> that'd be the failure prompt. what did you select from the menu?
[11:00] <maki> command line edit mode is what it looks liek
[11:00] <maki> oh, that was a failure prompt?
[11:00] <maki> i didn't select anything, just mashed escape and it immediately took me here.
[11:00] <blackflow> no, the command line edit mode shows you the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg for editing
[11:01] <maki> do I have a fucked USB drive?
[11:01] <maki> although this is installed already
[11:01] <maki> so i doubt it
[11:01] <blackflow> maki: first of all, please mind your language, this is a fam friendly channel
[11:01] <maki> o, mb
[11:01] <maki> can I send an ss here?
[11:02] <maki> just says grub> and gives me a bunch of commands, how do i go back to the normal menu?
[11:02] <maki> well, it's just empty until i hit tab, mb
[11:02] <blackflow> now, I don't know what spamming ESC would do exactly. showing hidden grub menu needs holding shift when the boot POST message appears, so you hold it all the way until the menu pops up
[11:02] <blackflow> maki: reboot<enter>
[11:03] <blackflow> or... maybe not, this is not busybox.... dunno, try the three finger salute ctrl+alt+del
[11:03] <maki> how did i forget
[11:04] <maki> ok, that didn't work
[11:04] <maki> i have an idea
[11:04] <maki> i'm going to slow mo to read the prompts LOL
[11:04] <blackflow> maki: type "normal" (no quotes) and hit enter
[11:05] <maki> wrote normal and was taken to ubuntu
[11:06] <maki> oh, it was the wrong key LOL
[11:06] <blackflow> right, reboot and try holding shift from post until the menu shows up. or just disable menu hiding now that you've booted properly
[11:06] <maki> right shift, not left shift
[11:07] <blackflow> dunno, any shift worked for me
[11:07] <blackflow> could be your kbd is dumb like that during boot :)
[11:08] <maki> Is there any way to access command line edit mode from GNU?
[11:08] <maki> *GRUB
[11:08] <blackflow> maki: yes, move the cursor to select appropriate entry, then hit the C key,     as instructed by the menu :)
[11:09] <blackflow> sorry, 'e' for editing,   'c' for command line
[11:09] <blackflow> (the grub> command line)
[11:10] <maki> meant to ask if i could figure out how to just turn off quiet mode from GNU
[11:10] <maki> or do i need to boot?
[11:11] <blackflow> maki: just like that. arrows to select the entry, hit e, then arrows to find the kernel command line, remove quiet from it, hit F10 to continue booting that menu entry
[11:11] <provolik>  Hello, I need an help with php multiple version on Ubuntu 18.04
[11:11] <provolik> I followed some guide and I switched to php 5.6, but even if in cli (php -v) it shows me there's php5.6, in web-browser (phpinfo()) it says me there's php7.3
[11:11] <provolik> How can I set 5.6 for the web-browser?
[11:13] <blackflow> provolik: it has nothing to do with the browser, but with which php binary is used to interpret PHP by the web server.    also, 5.6 is EOL, you shouldn't use it.
[11:14] <provolik> blackflow, I know is EOL, but I have to use for now, so the fact that is EOL does not solve my problem. How can I swicth the binary for th web server?
[11:14] <blackflow> provolik: you edit your web server's configuration.
[11:15] <provolik> But I didn't edit it before, I followed a guide with some CLI commands
[11:16] <blackflow> well I don't know what you did. but if you want to configure your web server to use a different php binary, then that's how you do it. you configure it to.
[11:17] <blackflow> provolik: quick googling suggests that update-alternatives supports different php versions. did you use that?
[11:17] <provolik> Yes
[11:18] <cappe> is it possible to install only a loader grub into a usb stick, that will load ubuntu without installing it (again)?
[11:18] <provolik> I used update-alternatives --config php
[11:18] <cappe> targeting an exsistante ubuntu installation
[11:18] <provolik> I selected 5.6
[11:18] <blackflow> provolik: did you restart the web server afterwards?
[11:18] <provolik> blackflow, sure
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> start here cappe : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[11:19] <cappe> lotuspsychje: thanks buddy
[11:20] <maki> sudo lshw -C network shows me a human readable name, but ubuntu thinks there is no wifi connected adapter installed.
[11:21] <blackflow> provolik: can you pastebin   update-alternatives --list php    ?
[11:21] <blackflow> !pastebin
[11:21] <provolik> blackflow, ok
[11:21] <blackflow> maki: which chipset is that supposed to be?
[11:22] <maki> BCM94352, DW1560 @blackflow
[11:22] <provolik> blackflow, https://pastebin.com/0b3CpU9V
[11:24] <maki> i have no internet so i can't sudo apt install bcmwl-kernel-source
[11:24] <maki> secure boot is off
[11:24] <blackflow> maki: was about to suggest that, it appears that chipset requires that firmware, but the google results are a few years old, not sure if any of the packaged firmwares suffices
[11:25] <maki> hmm... am I SoL here?
[11:25] <blackflow> maki: you'll have to find a cable and perhaps install that firmware
[11:25] <maki> oof.
[11:25] <maki> alright, I have access to an ethernet adapter somewhere
[11:25] <blackflow> or dl it elsewhere, bring it in with an usb stick or something
[11:26] <maki> oh okay
[11:26] <maki> how can i do it via usb stick
[11:26] <maki> wait nevermind, i only have a windows system rn
[11:27] <blackflow> maki: well yeah bcmwl-kernel-source is a package, so you can find the .deb, download it, and install the file with apt directly.
[11:28] <blackflow> maki: for bionic:  https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/bcmwl-kernel-source/download     look at that page, follow instructions on how to get the .deb
[11:29] <blackflow> maki: "You can download the requested file from the ....."
[11:30] <blackflow> provolik: yeah, I'm not sure what's going on. You'll have to check the webserver config and see what it's configured with exactly. what is that, apache? nginx? php run via php-fpm or something else?
[11:30] <provolik> the webserver is apache
[11:31] <blackflow> provolik: right, it's been a while since I used apache, so I can't tell you otoh where to look at, but..... you should look at its config and see how it's configured to use php.
[11:31] <provolik> ok
[11:31] <maki> Worked, seemed incredibly asinine how i couldnt' install dpkms manually
[11:31] <blackflow> this is definitely a config issue, the question is only what exactly you need to do. a2ensmod, update-alternatives or manually fix the config.
[11:31] <provolik> I am thinking about a drastic solution
[11:31] <maki> kept yelling at me that i needed wifi to install dkms on my usb drive
[11:31] <maki> like what
[11:31] <provolik> completely remove 7.3
[11:32] <konrados> provolik, wait a second with that. You might be interested in the a2dismod & a2enmod commands. Because I assume you're using php-mod? See your /etc/apache2/mods-available/ dir - you should see files starting with 'php' - what do you have there?
[11:32] <blackflow> provolik: is this a public server?
[11:32] <provolik> blackflow, no
[11:33] <RonaldsMazitis><PHONE_NUMBER>999
[11:33] <konrados> provolik, you just started your research in wrong places, it's neither ##php, not #ubuntu, it's #httpd :)
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: can we help you?
[11:33] <RonaldsMazitis> my keyboard is writing
[11:33] <RonaldsMazitis> itself
[11:33] <provolik> konrados, :-D
[11:33] <blackflow> provolik: then I suppose you can remove 7.3, but ideally you'd want to learn how to configure apache for php. once you do you'll see how simple it is. I just don't know otoh which files and which directives are used by apache.
[11:33] <konrados> provolik, so, no need for drastic steps :) Just enable the right module in apche :)
[11:34] <konrados> yeah
[11:35] <provolik> konrados, https://pastebin.com/z8yMc7yc
[11:35] <blackflow> maki: so, problem solved? you got wifi now?
[11:36] <blackflow> provolik: which php mods are linked under /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/   ?
[11:37] <provolik> blackflow, https://pastebin.com/XDusxT8p
[11:38] <blackflow> provolik: so php 5.6 only. so your phpinfo() should be showing php 5.6, unless your confiugration is not what you say it is.
[11:38] <blackflow> (and assuming you really did restart apache)
[11:38] <provolik> Okay
[11:38] <provolik> I FOUND IT
[11:38] <provolik> :-D
[11:39] <provolik> I read carefully the history commands
[11:39] <provolik> I activated an FPM versio
[11:39] <provolik> so I deactivated it and now I have 5.6 again
[11:39] <blackflow> yeah, so apache php mods are then not used
[11:39] <blackflow> keep using php-fpm, it's way better than embedding php into apache
[11:40] <provolik> I have some job to do
[11:40] <provolik> For different companies and in the next weeks I will upgrade them to 7.3
[11:40] <provolik> But there are critical issues now so I cannot
[11:42] <blackflow> provolik: you can configure php-fpm for different php version too.
[11:45] <provolik> I know
[11:46] <provolik> blackflow, konrados, thank you guys
[11:46] <RonaldsMazitis> my keyboard is typing itself
[11:46] <RonaldsMazitis> mouse is moving itself (only small range)
[11:47] <blackflow> it's possessed!
[11:47] <RonaldsMazitis> ubuntu malware?
[11:47] <RonaldsMazitis> omg
[11:47] <mouses> maybe you compiled the kernel with ghost_possession support enabled
[11:48] <CamielB> Hi folks. There is something I cannot get my head around and I was wondering if someone here could reach me a helping hand.
[11:48] <blackflow> mouse jittering around is probably caused by poor quality optics and/or bad texture under it. keys, though... it's possessed :)   or kbd electrical failure.
[11:48] <mouses> (in all serious though, maybe a bad USB port/hub or if wireless input devices maybe bad battery?'
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> ask your issue to the channel CamielB
[11:48] <CamielB> I installed (k)ubuntu with the LVM and encryption option.
[11:48] <RonaldsMazitis> usb
[11:48] <RonaldsMazitis> here
[11:48] <mouses> RonaldsMazitis: could be a bad USB port or hub
[11:48] <CamielB> Then I added to the created lvm group (kubunt-vg) a number of other encrypted drives.
[11:48] <CamielB> All luks encrypted.
[11:49] <CamielB> In fact that works flawlessly.
[11:49] <CamielB> (need to take care of the /etc/crypttab and initramfs to guarantee startup).
[11:49] <CamielB> But now - before any issue occurs - I want to understand how I can get a disk out of this setup.
[11:49] <CamielB> And there I got stuck ...
[11:50] <CamielB> I don't seem to find a way to free up a disk even if ample room is left (1.5T of 3T used).
[11:50] <CamielB> The encryption makes the disk all seem full ...
[11:50] <blackflow> CamielB: are you asking how to remove a pv from the vg?
[11:50] <CamielB> And here I am stuck ... no clue ...
[11:50] <CamielB> YEs blackflow. But an encrypted one.
[11:51] <blackflow> CamielB: if LVM is atop of LUKS, I'm not sure it makes a difference
[11:51] <CamielB> It is the standard ubuntu setup. I guess that is LVM on LUKS, is it ?
[11:51] <blackflow> first of all, you can't just randomly remove a pv, you first have to `pvmove` data on it
[11:51] <CamielB> But none of the disks show free PE that way ...
[11:52] <CamielB> Yes, of course ...
[11:52] <CamielB> I just want a dry run on the procedure in case it ever is needed ...
[11:52] <blackflow> CamielB: after that you can `vgreduce` a volume group (vg)
[11:52] <blackflow> well, you definitely should keep backups, yes
[11:52] <CamielB> Can you give any reference to a description ? I seem to miss it ... (again , without LUKS it is clear)
[11:53] <blackflow> CamielB: you can check the manapges of those two commands, or ask google for more info on how to "lvm remove pv from vg"
[11:54] <blackflow> CamielB: in fact, if LUKS is atop of LVM, it shouldn't make a difference as well. you just have to work with unlocked LUKS containers so metadata can be freely modified. in both cases.
[11:55] <CamielB> Well, I did that of course but - unless I misunderstand - they all work towards a PV that shows free PE's. All my PE's show occupied.
[11:55] <blackflow> CamielB: even after pvmove?
[11:55] <CamielB> Didn't dare to try that yet. Maybe I should ;)
[11:56] <blackflow> you'll need another pv to move the data off of the pv you want removed tho'
[11:57] <CamielB> Well, but that is where I thus get stuck. I have 1.5T free of the 3.0T but nevertheless no PV shows available PE's.
[11:57] <blackflow> or at least free space for the extents to be moved. it's been a while since I did it, I'm just consulting the manpages now
[11:58] <blackflow> CamielB: check the pvmove manpage, there's an example showing running pvmove with only the device you want to move extents OFF of, so it automatically moves them elsewhere in the vg
[11:59] <CamielB> I hope that works when no other PV shows free PE ...
[11:59] <blackflow> pretty sure pvmove will error out if there's none
[11:59] <CamielB> Maybe I should just try, but not before having backed up all my nice setup stuff ...
[11:59] <CamielB> Exactly so !
[11:59] <blackflow> as long as you don't force pvremove, you should be ok
[12:00] <RonaldsMazitis> I think kdenlive is guilty
[12:00] <blackflow> but definitely make backups. no doubt about that.
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: if you suspect software, try a liveusb
[12:09] <CamielB> blackflow, can I paste a few lines of lsblk ?
[12:09] <blackflow> !pastebin
[12:10]  * blackflow kicks ubottu
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> !paste
[12:10] <blackflow> but !pastebin is a factoid too
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:10] <CamielB> https://pastebin.com/BL0bu4WU
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: .pastebinit i think
[12:11] <CamielB> What would be the pvmove argument here /dev/mapper/sdd1_crypt ?
[12:12] <blackflow> CamielB: no idea.  run pvscan an see in that list which pv corresponds to the disk you want removed.
[12:13] <CamielB> Yeah. That was it. But again frightening : all show 0 free ...
[12:13] <CamielB> But right now I am tarring a backup ...
[12:18] <maki> @blackflow
[12:18] <maki> thanks for your help, i got my ubuntu actually working now
[12:18] <CamielB> I am starting to fear it should have been LVM over LUKS to be still able replacing a disk. But on the other hand the ubuntu install does it the other way around ...
[12:58] <laptop> help
[12:58] <laptop> I need help with
[12:58] <laptop> firejail and
[12:58] <laptop> csf firewall
[13:01] <DarkByD3sign> I'm sure if you ask your question somebody will be able to assist you with it.
[13:06] <laptop> ok my questions are csf firewall keeps blocking hexchat, how do I fix that?
[13:06] <MJCD> wtf is avahi
[13:07] <blackflow> there is this incredible search engine, a gateway to entire human knowledge, called google! you should try it sometimes, you'll be astonished!
[13:07] <MJCD> lol
[13:07] <MJCD> what I meant is
[13:07] <MJCD> why do I want mdns as standard
[13:08] <DarkByD3sign> Haha
[13:08] <MJCD> if I installed chrome I believe that would make use of it - but still using its own mdns system if at all
[13:14] <MJCD> also how does me in Perth, Western Australia's "best server" in spain hahah
[13:15] <MJCD> don't think that
[13:15] <MJCD> 's quite right eh hahah
[13:16] <besogon> eah.. not mush people here as it was 5-6 years ago
[13:16] <CamielB> Dont underestimate the confusion between 'austria' and 'australia'. Despite the entire human knowledge.
[13:16] <MJCD> lol
[13:17] <besogon> isn't it the same place? (sarcasm) ))
[13:20] <laptop> who lives in australia?
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> laptop: do you have an ubuntu question?
[13:20] <blackflow> koalas! they're in #ubuntu-offtopic eager to chat!
[13:21] <laptop> yes
[13:21] <laptop> I have a quick question
[13:21] <laptop> do you know anything about csf firewall or firejail
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> laptop: we try to focus on ubuntu issues here, maybe try #firejail ?
[13:24] <laptop> okay thanks what about csf firewall
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> laptop: where did you download it from?
[13:25] <laptop> from the csf website hold on
[13:26] <laptop> https://configserver.com/cp/csf.html
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> laptop: check their forum
[13:28] <CamielB> pvmove /dev/mapper/sdd1_crypt : No extents available for allocation.
[13:29] <CamielB> So that does not work.
[13:29] <CamielB> So how the heck is this supposed now to work ?
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> CamielB: are you on desktop or server?
[13:30] <CamielB> The facts are simple : LVM over LUKS (such as started by Ubuntu) extended with disks. No way to get a disk out ...
[13:30] <CamielB> Desktop.
[13:30] <CamielB> So what would be the point of LVM anyways.
[13:30] <CamielB> I can't believe, but I dont get it either.
[13:42] <Diarreias> boi
[13:43] <super_koza> Exterminador: I am back. This laptop is slow as hell, like 3 mbit downstream...
[13:43] <super_koza> I will try later with a live distribution and see if the speed changes...
[13:52] <Diarreias> https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/t2bot.io/995b7a20c7d54f60fb95abde8705d0a1
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> Diarreias: not here please
[14:00] <gigirock> hi all for some reason i have to use some nfs share from server to some clients, so on client you have to mount like "mount 192.168.x.x:/mnt/share/nfs/forli
[14:00] <gigirock> is it possible to share some shorten path using an alias or similar ?
[14:02] <MJCD> in the default ubuntu settings for mouse/touchpad I can't find any setting for the scroll behavior, which is extremely slow/unresponsive currently
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> MJCD: do you see the touchpad settings in systemsettings?
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | gigirock can this help?
[14:04] <CamielB> How weird it might sound, I don't think there is a solution for my issue ... I don't trust the setup as sooner or later a disk *will* need to be replaced.
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> CamielB: dont give up too soon, i noticed a few recent bugs lately on lvm issues too
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> CamielB: idle in here, and re-ask once in a while, new volunteers will wakeup soon
[14:07] <CamielB> Yes, but actually I want to do stuff meanwhile with my system ;) And not being at more risk than necessary ! So I will return to an unencrypted minimum setup, complemented with luks encrypted drives and the good old `ln -s ToSomeEncryptedPlace ThisDir` :) It might be slightly more convoluted, but at least I know what is going on and how things can be replaced ...
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> CamielB: sure, the users choice :p
[14:09] <CamielB> I am really surprised though. LVM in itself seems wonderful. Even if I was hesitant to consider. But bitten by the LUKS part of it ...
[14:12] <CamielB> Thanks for the help anyway. Out for a re-install. Luckily I documented all and backed up.
[14:19] <Sven_vB_> on bionic, how do I query systemd for a list of services that have failed to start?
[14:20] <Sven_vB_> also how can I convince it to give up on NetworkManager and offer me a console login instead?
[14:24] <fub> When copying a large folder with a lot of subfolders (home dir) to an external usb drive, is using tar faster than a raw cp?
[14:25] <Sven_vB_> fub, nah, but I'd use tar because I think it messes up the target permissions and ownership less in case you abort the operation and try to resume.
[14:26] <fub> Sven_vB_: and rsync is slower I guess?
[14:26] <Sven_vB_> although with both I haven't found an option to resume broken files; so I'm left with overwriting all files that already exist, or skip all of them leaving one file just partially copied
[14:26] <Sven_vB_> rsync should be just as fast, and more reliable.
[14:27] <Sven_vB_> I should really learn how to use it. :D
[14:41] <MJCD> lotuspsychje, yeah but there's no setting for scroll behaviours at all
[14:41] <MJCD> turned the sensitivity way up but the issue persists
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> MJCD: try dconf-editor see if there are more settings there
[14:41] <qwebirc9365> hey,  just updated 18.04 and now Videos won't open.  Noob here.  Any ideas to troubleshoot?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: video's locally or youtube?
[14:42] <qwebirc9365> Get these when I run totem at command line:  : CommandLine Error: Option 'help-list' registered more than once! LLVM ERROR: inconsistency in registered CommandLine options
[14:42] <qwebirc9365> Videos app won't open
[14:42] <qwebirc9365> VLC works finr
[14:42] <qwebirc9365> fine
[14:43] <Sven_vB> for anyone having their bionic live session stuck trying to start GDM and NetworkManager: kernel boot option "xforcevesa" just magically cured both. no idea why it would affect network manager but well, whatever.
[14:43] <qwebirc9365> there was  Videos update released, also saw mesa update and kernel update
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: totem doesnt play all codecs by default
[14:43] <qwebirc9365> it plays these.  I'm a youtuber,  and use it to test all my videos
[14:44] <RonaldsMazitis> my keyboard is writing itself and youtube is stopping itself
[14:44] <RonaldsMazitis> possesed ubuntu here
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: please dont repeat that over and over
[14:44] <RonaldsMazitis> yeah
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: i already suggested you a liveusb
[14:44] <RonaldsMazitis> buy youtube is new thing
[14:44] <RonaldsMazitis> I was not here\
[14:44] <RonaldsMazitis> what liveusb?
[14:45] <RonaldsMazitis> but* youtube stopping itself is new thing
[14:45] <qwebirc9365> To be clear,  totem doesn't launch even when no video is being opened
[14:46] <RonaldsMazitis> what do I have to do with liveusb
[14:46] <qwebirc9365> no bug report is getting generated
[14:46] <RonaldsMazitis> You mean launching ubuntu trough usb?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: yes, and test if your keyboard writes there by itself
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: try this: sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:50] <qwebirc9365> @lotuspsychje - already have it installed and updated.
[14:51] <qwebirc9365> Again,  VLC plays the videos fine.
[14:51] <qwebirc9365> maybe I didn't say that here
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: i readed you
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: your totem version please?
[14:52] <qwebirc9365> 3.26.0-0ubuntu6.2
[14:52] <qwebirc9365> from apt-cache policy
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: can you pastebin the whole output error after launch from terminal please?
[14:53] <RonaldsMazitis> lotuspsychje: I just disabled my laptops default keyboard, it was somehow enabled
[14:53] <RonaldsMazitis> I think it was the problem
[14:53] <RonaldsMazitis> what makes default keyboard do weird stuff?
[14:54] <qwebirc9365> @lotus,  the text I shared IS everything.  LOL
[14:55] <qwebirc9365> @lotus - I rebooted after instlaling updates also (kernel update)
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: whats your current kernel?
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: and what about your graphics card driver, installed correctly?
[14:57] <qwebirc9365> 4.15.0-45-generic,  using AMD free driver amdgpu
[14:58] <molpietje> Hi everyone
[14:59] <qwebirc9365> I did switch to the AMD video card recently. (after the install of the OS)  but the video card has worked fine with and without the amd driver installed
[14:59] <molpietje> I still have some problems with my laptop with Linux mint
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: do you have external ppa's added to your system?
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> !mint | molpietje
[14:59] <molpietje> oeps wrong place Sorry guys
[15:01] <qwebirc9365> yes I have additional PPA
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: like wich?
[15:02] <qwebirc9365> mono is potentially relevant
[15:02] <qwebirc9365> and I've just found that there is a maybe residual entry for amdgpu-pro - file:/var/opt/amdgpu-pro-local/
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: i would reccomend making a bug, but we need to be sure your external ppa's dont faulty this first
[15:02] <qwebirc9365> which I did use for a bit
[15:03] <qwebirc9365> but reverted to the free driver
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: did you test totem from the amd driver too?
[15:03] <qwebirc9365> @lotus,  can I grab logs for apt updates to show which packages were just changed?  As I feel that speaks to what is causing the problem (most likely)
[15:04] <qwebirc9365> @lotus - not sure how to test totem in that manner
[15:04] <qwebirc9365> I haven't changed video drivers to troubleshoot this
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: another test you could try, is totem launch from wayland
[15:04] <qwebirc9365> tech info for that?
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: logout, and login to wayland and test totem launch
[15:06] <qwebirc9365> ok,  that will kill my session here.  I'll have a new ID and such.  But I'll try to ping you
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> MJCD: oh by the way, i noticed touchpad speed goes way smoother in wayland then xorg, can you also test this please?
[15:07] <qwebirc9365> Is wayland installed by default?
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc9365: it should on 18.04 and choosable at your login window
[15:07] <qwebirc9365> k,  will return (hopefully)
[15:09] <qwebirc38334> @lotus - I'm back
[15:10] <qwebirc38334> same exact behavior
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc38334: allright, tnx for testing
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc38334: before we create the bug, can you disable your ppa's please?
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | qwebirc38334
[15:11] <qwebirc38334> Can I just uncheck them in the GUI?
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc38334: that might not fix the packages that come along with it
[15:11] <qwebirc38334> otherwise,  I'd like to know a way to back them up so I can just restore them
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc38334: we dont really support ppa's here as they are a 'potential' risk
[15:12] <qwebirc38334> give me a bit, I need to back them up somehow
[15:29] <genady> hello everything
[15:45] <Rockabilly> My Ubuntu 18.04 (MATE flavor) box keeps disconnecting from my home network, seemingly, at random. When it disconnects it is unable to reconnect. No other networks will be visible and attempting to mess restart the network service sometimes causes the system to crawl to a stop. Here is a log of the last time it happened: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/Y9jbhNfLUQG3Z91gJ8NN/ Any tips?
[15:48] <qwebirc38334> lotuspsychje - So I removed all PPA specifcally - but do I need to remove any non-ubuntu provided repo?  Like Steam?
[15:48] <TJ-> Rockabilly: which kernel version ("uname -r") ?
[15:49] <Rockabilly> TJ-: 4.15.0-45-generic
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc38334: steam is ubuntu supported
[15:52] <qwebirc38334> Sorry,  your response isn't clear to me.  I have entries for these package repos in Software Sources.  Like the Chrome repo?
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc38334: feel free to share your sources.list we can have a look
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> !sources | qwebirc38334 : the vanilla ones
[15:54] <TJ-> Rockabilly: Have you tested with a more recent kernel, such as the v4.18 HWE? Looking at the commit history there have been a lot of commits affecting that driver since 4.15 until now (45) so it is likely a more recent version will fix bugs
[15:56] <Rockabilly> TJ-: I have not. I'm using 18.04 Bionic, which is LTS. Does the latest Ubuntu, Cosmic, come with that kernel?
[15:56] <TJ-> !hwe | Rockabilly
[15:56] <qwebirc38334> lotus-  sources here - https://pastebin.com/nuw8aCvS
[15:57] <Rockabilly> TJ-: Thanks! Let me read over that and I'll let you know if I have more questions.
[15:57] <qwebirc38334> I've removed several already.  Just look for clarity
[15:58] <qwebirc38334> link may have been invalid until just now - spam detection
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc38334: keep the bionic ones, all the rest=> vanish :p
[15:59] <TJ-> Rockabilly: just did a further check and there are 36 commits to that driver between Ubuntu's 4.15 and 4.18 kernels
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc38334: after that, ubuntu-bug totem
[16:02] <Rockabilly> TJ-: Thanks!
[16:02] <Rockabilly> TJ-: I'm upgrading to 4.19. Should I be using 4.18 instead?
[16:02] <Sven_vB> how can I make fstab entries opportunistic? i.e. systemd shall mount them if possible, but never delay system startup if it fails
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> Rockabilly: 7feb also ubuntu 18.04.2 comes out, maybe better luck then
[16:03] <Rockabilly> lotuspsychje: If I can't get this sorted by this weekend I'll probably reinstall with that one.
[16:04] <nisankhindia> Situation is a system with Bionic beaver ( ubuntu 18.04 ) which is used for a specific task . Neither can be reinstalled nor can be put in offline at the time . But somehow without our concern we are now unable to get its login Gui . Even we are not able to start the system in tty or recovery mode .. any idea
[16:05] <Sven_vB> found it, "nofail" option
[16:05] <Sven_vB> also nobootwait
[16:05] <leftyfb> nisankhindia: you turn the computer on and what do you see?
[16:06] <nisankhindia> leftyfb: it shows a blank screen . When we tried to get into GRUB menu using shift key or trying to boot the system using previous available kernels it stuck with a black screen
[16:07] <leftyfb> nisankhindia: try booting with a live cd/usb and running the drive test in gparted.
[16:08] <nisankhindia> leftyfb: if somehow I can make a way to read only file system recovery mode than it will be like a life saving moment for me
[16:08] <leftyfb> nisankhindia: boot a live cd/usb
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> Rockabilly: you can go up to .2 by updating your system
[16:10] <nisankhindia> leftyfb: oh god ... it's done now
[16:10] <leftyfb> nisankhindia: done?
[16:10] <TJ-> Rockabilly: stick with the HWE kernel, it is supported, unless you find problems with that as well
[16:10] <nisankhindia> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SSuzpKSK/irccloudcapture8558695469712433743.jpg
[16:11] <nisankhindia> leftyfb: I dont understand what was happened.  But now I am dropped to root shell prompt... luckily
[16:11] <leftyfb> nisankhindia: look at dmesg for any hardware issues. Boot a live cd/usb to check your drive/run fsck
[16:11] <Rockabilly> TJ-: Will do
[16:12] <Rockabilly> lotuspsychje: Yes, thanks. I'm sick this weekend and don't type what I mean.
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> Rockabilly: no sweat :p
[16:12] <jhaig> Hi. Can anyone tell me how to share my wireless network connection via the ethernet to another computer? I'm fairly sure this used to be simple to do but I cannot find it in 18.04.
[16:13] <j0seph> Hi all, I just want to ask a quick couple of questions: In 18.10, why was Nautilus 3.26 packaged instead of 3.30 to match the rest of the suite? Will the next release (19.04) have GNOME and all of its utilities target the same version? (3.32 if I remember correctly)
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> !19.04
[16:14] <jhaig> Actually, forget that. I must have set it up some time ago because the other computer appears to have connected. It tood a bit of time, though.
[16:16] <rapidwave> Where does JDK get installed by installer?
[16:16] <ducasse> jhaig: afaik it's common for nautilus to lag a bit behind, as canonical adds some of it's own patches
[16:16] <Rockabilly> TJ-: I seem to be a bit slow today. How do I enable the HWE kernel?
[16:17] <j0seph> lotuspsychje: was that intended for an answer to my questions?
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> j0seph: no sorry, i was testing something for factoids
[16:17] <ducasse> j0seph: mine was, sorry
[16:18] <j0seph> lotuspsychje: ah, no worries.
[16:18] <j0seph> ducasse: thanks :)
[16:19] <nisankhindia> leftyfb: somehow system was not able to mount file system according to dmesg details .. will investigate later with all logs . Not a hardware fault
[16:21] <Sven_vB> nobootwait seems to not work with systemd though
[16:23] <wyre> hi everyone, how could I load r8822be.ko module?
[16:24] <wyre> I mean I've loaded rtlwifi using modprobe
[16:24] <wyre> but it is not loading the specific driver that I need
[16:31] <j0seph> I did a little looking around and it turns out that one of the main reasons Canonical did not include the latest version of Nautilus in 18.04/18.10 was because Nautilus 3.28 removed Desktop Icon functionality.
[16:39] <wyre> Why I cannot load the r8822be module if it is installed?
[16:40] <wyre> maybe must I install it first with insmod?
[16:41] <d[-_-]b> hi, im on 18.04 ,  trying to run a command via Alt+F2.  the command is bash <(curl url)  but it doesnt give me the results it should, this works if i run it in a terminal. any reason for this ?
[16:43] <Sven_vB> d[-_-]b, probably the shell used by Alt+F2 doesn't support <()
[16:43] <Sven_vB> d[-_-]b, you could try to wrap the command in bash -c '…', you may need to adjust inner quotes.
[16:44] <Sven_vB> hiwever, I'd prefer downloading the file, verifying a crypto checksum, and only then run it.
[16:44] <Sven_vB> *however
[16:45] <d[-_-]b> ill give it a try Sven_vB
[16:46] <d[-_-]b> Sven_vB: that works thanks
[16:46] <Sven_vB> yw
[16:49] <wyre> I need to load the r8822be module
[16:49] <wyre> but I cannot do it even with sudo
[16:50] <fr00die> hi - just have a look
[16:50] <wyre> I'm getting the message: "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'r8822be': Operation not permitted"
[16:51] <wyre> I'm using 4.18.0-14 generic kernel
[16:51] <wyre> and the module is there
[16:58] <bcowan> ukuu went closed that stinks :(
[16:58] <OerHeks> ukuu is not official supported here
[16:59] <ducasse> bcowan: it's a snap, so you need to ask the maintainer
[17:00] <bcowan> ok
[17:00] <bcowan> thx
[17:04] <Sven_vB> what are the recommended owner, group and permissions for /var/log?
[17:04] <OerHeks> Sven_vB, why do you ask? messed around with settings?
[17:05] <Sven_vB> OerHeks, recovering a xenial machine
[17:05] <ducasse> Sven_vB: rwxrwxr-x, root syslog
[17:05] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[17:06] <OerHeks> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XrrXzWt8j8/
[17:07] <OerHeks> tons of permissions
[17:07] <Sven_vB> in my case the group was adm, so maybe that's why some logs were not created
[17:08] <OerHeks> and inside /var/log/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h4gdmHgYpV/
[17:10] <frank_> I don't think I understand the default logging of sshd very well. I cannot reproduce the "Disconnected from authenticating user..." message in /var/log/auth.log reliably. would someone explain when this message is generated exactly and why I can't reproduce it by trying to SSH into the box with an existing user and a wrong password?
[17:10] <Sven_vB> I wonder why gparted won't allow changing the UUID of the ext3 mounted as /. tune2fs does it w/o even a warning, not even a reminder I should update my fstab.
[17:11] <IniGit> hi
[17:12] <Sven_vB> even more importent, I should have ran upate-grub. :D
[17:12] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: i think gparted considers itself primarily a partitioning tool.
[17:12] <IniGit> why do workspaces have such a really strange behaviour? The workspace does not switch for all screens, but just for the primary monitor. WHen you select an app within another workspace in the 2nd montor, then the primary monitors workspace does change. I mean I think really nobody would assume this is as intended
[17:13] <IniGit> It's really hard to make any use of this feature like this IMO
[17:13] <rapidwave> I installed JDK using official installer. Where do I find the JDK?
[17:13] <tomreyn> rapidwave: what do you mean by "official installer"?
[17:13] <OerHeks> IniGit, set your workspace oacross your monitors, as 1 workspace
[17:14] <rapidwave> I downloaded it from Oracle
[17:14] <tomreyn> rapidwave: i see. we only support the open one here.
[17:15] <IniGit> OerHeks: How do I do that?
[17:15] <OerHeks> locate *jdk
[17:15] <IniGit> OerHeks: YOu mean not use the workspace feature?
[17:15] <OerHeks> IniGit,  in systemsettings - devices- displays
[17:17] <IniGit> OerHeks: I see no option for that
[17:17] <IniGit> I only see orientation, resolution, scale, refresh rate, adjust for tv and night light
[17:18] <OerHeks> top row, join - mirror - single display
[17:20] <AtomVelvet> How would I configure thermald to run the fan only at higher temps?  My average system temperature is 38c but the fans are running at the moment
[17:20] <IniGit> OerHeks: I don't see that option. Do you have another version then 18.04?
[17:22] <IniGit> The behaviour is also more like that the second screen is more uiversal and app from other workspaces appear in the dock of the current workspace.
[17:22] <OerHeks> no, 18.04.1 lts --  https://imgur.com/a/bW9QtYG
[17:22] <IniGit> universal means it does not belong to a workspace
[17:22] <IniGit> OerHeks: OK I do not see these buttons at the top
[17:22] <OerHeks> well, if you want to switch them both
[17:23] <rapidwave> Looks like I actually have  java installed from repo. Still don't know where to find it.
[17:23] <IniGit> I also have 18.04.1 lts
[17:24] <IniGit> Maybe it is because of my monitor setup, because I mirror 3 screens to another 3 screens
[17:24] <IniGit> idk
[17:24] <tomreyn> rapidwave: "dpkg -L package" lists all the files installed by package "package"
[17:26] <tomreyn> (that's if this package is installed, otherwise use "apt-file list package")
[17:26] <AtomVelvet> How would I fix fans running at low temperatures?
[17:27] <OerHeks> IniGit, then i have no clue there :-(
[17:27] <IniGit> OerHeks: ok :D thx anyway :)
[17:27] <strive> AtomVelvet: That sounds like a question for #hardware (it could be ##hardware).
[17:29] <tomreyn> AtomVelvet: i never configured thermald, but maybe this helps? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues
[17:29] <IniGit> OerHeks: It's kind of strange, because I'm pretty sure that I never saw those options even before configuring my monitors via arandr
[17:30] <IniGit> OerHeks: I installed that tool, because there were no such options like mirror in the device settings
[17:36] <ca_cabotage> hey all, im' tryign to transfer files from a local disk to a network disk. all of the sudden, when i transfer files it says that it completed with errors, "input/output error" and the files will transfer but they are all 0 bytes.
[17:40] <DamnBro> Hello! Can anyone here tell me exactly how to make the equivalent of "Folders" in Unity?
[17:40] <DamnBro> I'm trying to organize all these apps and can't group them together
[17:41] <OerHeks> there is no grouping for apps in unity, afaik
[17:42] <DamnBro> There is a folder here called "Utilities" here how can I make another? of those then? not possible?
[17:43] <OerHeks> DamnBro, then you are not in unity, just regular gnome
[17:43] <OerHeks> see https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/add-app-folders-gnome-shell-overview
[17:43] <DamnBro> MY god
[17:43] <OerHeks> same, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1091972/how-do-i-create-app-folders-in-the-gnome-application-menu
[17:43] <DamnBro> This looks like what I was looking for
[17:43] <OerHeks> :-)
[17:43] <DamnBro> Thanks alot bro
[17:44] <OerHeks> it was a wish for unity, iirc, but never happened
[17:44] <DamnBro> Lol that's too bad
[17:44] <OerHeks> hmm, unity is still under development, maybe ..
[17:47] <ca_cabotage> hey all, im' tryign to transfer files from a local disk to a network disk. all of the sudden, when i transfer files it says that it completed with errors, "input/output error" and the files will transfer but they are all 0 bytes.
[17:48] <www2> Hi how can i setup my network settings to conect a ipadress (e.g. <IP_ADDRESS>) to use wifi or ethernet and not my VPN (tun0)?
[17:50] <OerHeks> ca_cabotage, it stopped with errors, so never completed?
[17:50] <OerHeks> that is why the size is 0, i guess
[17:51] <ca_cabotage> @OerHeks, yeah, it stops pretty much immediately after beginning even for large files
[17:51] <DamnBro> probably file type problem like fat32 limitations or something
[17:52] <OerHeks> could be, or no sufficient diskspace, or hw failure
[17:53] <ducasse> ca_cabotage: i/o errors often indicate a hardware problem, ie failing disk
[17:55] <ca_cabotage> @ducasse, yeah i've read that - but both disks pass SMART
[17:55] <DamnBro> What are the disks formatted too?
[17:56] <DamnBro> and how is it connected? USB? could be USB doesn't have enough juice :O
[17:57] <ducasse> ca_cabotage: you should look at the smart attributes themselves, check reallocated sectors etc
[17:57] <ca_cabotage> one sec i'll have to SSH in and see
[17:57] <ca_cabotage> probably ntfs or ext4
[17:57] <ca_cabotage> it's connected via SSHFS
[17:57] <DamnBro> Well those don't have limits thought you had like an external drive or something
[17:58] <ca_cabotage> it is an external usb 3.0 drive, with an external power supply
[17:58] <ca_cabotage> it has been working for over a year now, and does still have space available
[17:59] <DamnBro> What is it formatted to?
[18:01] <ca_cabotage> @DamnBro, df -Th returns it as fuseblk
[18:01] <ca_cabotage> so ntfs
[18:02] <DamnBro> Yeah then that is not the problem haha
[18:03] <DamnBro> Only time I ever got I/O Errors was with usbs not connected to 3.0 slots and I started saving memory really fast with like a torrent or something
[18:03] <ca_cabotage> hm
[18:03] <ca_cabotage> well
[18:04] <ca_cabotage> the host machine has an update available, so i'll bring it down update it and check the connections - hopefully it's something simply
[18:04] <ca_cabotage> what's weird is that I can still read from the disk just fine
[18:04] <DamnBro> yeah a reboot could be just what it needs
[18:05] <DamnBro> free up some of it's resources and junk
[18:05] <ca_cabotage> yeah
[18:05] <ca_cabotage> although, the host has tons of resources available
[18:18] <flux242> once i had high io (and also constant cpu load caused by this) when i forgot to define the lo iface in the /etc/network/interfaces.
[18:20] <flux242> and then iotop didn't work because my kernel was compiled without some options for the iotop to work. So I couldn't even figure out what causes that cpu load.
[18:24] <raj> does ubuntu default to using ASCII for python3?
[18:25] <teward> raj: that's less 'ubuntu' and more Python
[18:25] <sansGato> brb
[18:26] <raj> teward: Seems like a ubuntu issue --> Click discovered that you exported a UTF-8 locale but the locale system could not pick up from it because it does not exist.  The exported locale is "en_US.utf-8" but it is not supported
[18:26] <teward> raj: an exact replication example would be preferred.
[18:26] <teward> but the 'locale' system not picking it up is a different issue and not a Python issue
[18:27] <teward> raj: AIUI python 3's str function is Unicode
[18:27] <teward> if the exported locale isn't picked up in the system that's because the locale hasn't been generated/set up on the system itself
[18:27] <teward> and is less a bug in Python or Ubuntu and an issue of partial user errors
[18:28] <raj> teward: https://paste.ee/p/caIHf is the error, I can't get rid of it even if I set the LC_ALL and LANG env variables in my Dockerfile: https://paste.ee/p/hUjyY
[18:28] <raj> actually, sorry, this is the full error: https://paste.ee/p/mkSoO
[18:28] <teward> raj: i assume you can drop into a docker console for the docker itself, if you can can you pastebin the output of locale -a ?
[18:30] <teward> raj: it'd be nice to know what the locale inside the container is set to first :P
[18:30] <teward> in either case that sounds a lot more like the locale in the container, because as far as I can tell Python inherits the locale in the host system
[18:31] <teward> so if it's not set right in the container... :
[18:31] <teward> (in this case the 'host system' is the docker container)
[18:31] <raj> teward: https://paste.ee/p/ibTD3
[18:31] <raj> teward: yes you're right, it's not something to fix within python
[18:31] <teward> raj: correct, so during your docker building and composing you need to do the following:
[18:32] <teward> sudo locale-gen en_US && sudo locale-gen en_US.UTF8 && sudo update-locale && export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 && export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[18:32] <teward> but you should put those locale things into the environment on the container itself
[18:32] <teward> raj: but the issue is your local container's locale, yes.
[18:35] <teward> raj: or however Docker lets you set the locale in the container - you need ot do that :P
[18:37] <raj> teward: surprised more people aren't running into this issue
[18:38] <raj> teward: what about `RUN sed -i -e 's/# en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8/' /etc/locale.gen && locale-gen`
[18:39] <raj> as per https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28405902/how-to-set-the-locale-inside-a-ubuntu-docker-container
[18:39] <teward> raj: that'd probably work, but i'm not a docker expert :p
[18:39] <teward> (I don't use Docker actually, but I do use containerization of another nature and locale problems tend to follow containers around :P)
[18:44] <raj> teward: how are you containerizing?
[18:44] <qwebirc64535> .
[18:45] <qwebirc64535> Not sure how I set a username but I'm having some trouble installing Ubuntu on my PC.
[18:46] <teward> raj: not Docker :P
[18:46] <OerHeks> hi qwebirc64535 , no need to register now,, state your problem, wait and see
[18:47] <qwebirc64535> I have Windows 10 installed on another drive, but read to disable my windows drive when booting up Ubuntu on a USB to install it on the other drive (both drives are GPT) but I just get the Minimal Bash black screen.
[18:47] <qwebirc64535> I want Win10 on one drive and Ubuntu on the other.
[18:50] <ioria> qwebirc64535, does it mean that you actually don't want a dual-boot system bur rather boot each os from bios ?
[18:51] <qwebirc64535> Hmm idk this is my first time atepting this ^^,
[18:51] <qwebirc64535> What is best?
[18:51] <qwebirc64535> (total Noob, never used Linux before but want to learn)
[18:52] <ioria> qwebirc64535, dual-bot means that stating the pc, you'll be presented with a Grub screen; from there you can select an OS to boot
[18:52] <ioria> *starting
[18:52] <qwebirc64535> Yass! That sounds good! It's the Grub that gives me the black screen with Minimal Bash....
[18:53] <qwebirc64535> I don't even get to a part where I can install Ubuntu
[18:55] <ioria> qwebirc64535, what happens when you boot from  the usb ?
[18:56] <qwebirc64535> It goes direct to a black screen with Grub saying something like Minimal bash yadayada
[18:56] <fr00die> hi - just lookin arrpund
[18:57] <qwebirc64535> "Minimal BASH like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions."
[18:58] <ioria> qwebirc64535, how did you create the usb device ?
[18:58] <qwebirc64535> Using Rufus
[18:59] <qwebirc64535> Took down the Ubuntu desktop ISO and GPT scheme and NTFS
[19:00] <ioria> qwebirc64535, rufus really does not need any settings .... should be all in automatic ... or you changed some settings ?
[19:01] <qwebirc64535> Yeah the partition scheme as GPT seemed to be the way to go, not MBR
[19:02] <jeremy31> qwebirc64535: what happens from grub prompt for> ls
[19:02] <Sheilong> ioria: Hi. I tried everything yesterday, but no success. I even tried to minimal CD, but the installation was failing in the install software part.
[19:03] <jeremy31> qwebirc64535: paste to paste.ubuntu.com for long output
[19:03] <ioria> qwebirc64535, in the meanwhile i suggest burning again with the default settings
[19:04] <fr00die> gleich kommt der Tatort
[19:05] <qwebirc64535> Okay, but wont that fk up with me having windows on GPT if I run Ubuntu on MBR? GPT is Uefi (non CSM) and MBR is BIOS or UEFI
[19:06] <OerHeks> ubunt can handle gpt and uefi just fine
[19:06] <ioria> qwebirc64535, the iso is hibryd
[19:06] <qwebirc64535> Oh
[19:06] <ioria> qwebirc64535, the iso is hybrid
[19:07] <qwebirc64535> brb let me try it out. I'm on that computer right now so I'll be back
[19:07] <OerHeks> maybe you want the UEFI manual
[19:07] <ioria> qwebirc64535, when you boot it,you should pay attantion at what you choose
[19:07] <jeremy31> not sure what rufus does to mess it up, qwebirc64535 if there and option to use dd to write to USB?
[19:07] <ioria> qwebirc64535, and i think jeremy31 asked you some
[19:08] <OerHeks> ntfs will be overwritten, i guess
[19:08] <qwebirc64535> Instead of ISO?
[19:09] <qwebirc64535> Oh what happens from grub? I don't know becaus I don't know what to type there ^^
[19:09] <Need_JS_Expert> I'm having issues connecting to my EC2 instance using Ubuntu. I setup Elastic IP, Security Group has SSH on port 22, I have my password file, but the IP for some reason is not connecting. <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:09] <Sven_vB> if I want my /etc/grub.d/ file to override changes from another one, do I need a higher or lower number in the filename?
[19:09] <jeremy31> qwebirc64535: next to the prompt, just type 'ls'
[19:10] <jeremy31> qwebirc64535: and also try dd image mode in rufus rather than ISO
[19:11] <qwebirc64535> Will do! Writing a new image now
[19:11] <ioria> qwebirc64535, for the record,if you have 2 separates drives you can install ubuntu as you want (efi is not mandatory)
[19:12] <qwebirc64535> I read somewhere that both drives should be GPT and that was important
[19:12] <qwebirc64535> But i'll try MBR and see what happens
[19:12] <laptop> hi
[19:12] <ioria> qwebirc64535, it's importantif on the SAME drive
[19:12] <jeremy31> qwebirc64535: I had issues trying to use rufus a couple weeks ago and reading about it since seems to be a preference to using dd mode.  It doesn't hurt to use EFI and GPT
[19:13] <DamnBro> Yeah I got linux installed on seperate drive just use boot selector on bios to start it up
[19:13] <qwebirc64535> So should i try writing a GPT and use dd istead?
[19:14] <laptop> anyone know how to enable archon
[19:14] <jeremy31> qwebirc64535: try it, the ISO is actually hybrid and should boot legacy or EFI
[19:15] <qwebirc64535> Poor USB memory have been rewritten like 100 times today
[19:15] <DamnBro> HAHAHA
[19:15] <woenx> Hey, maybe this is out of the scope of this channel. But is it possible to change the IP assigned to a host when connected to a VPN network? From a remote to a local IP, so I can still access it.
[19:16] <DamnBro> I usually use YUMI for usb live CDs
[19:16] <DamnBro> Lets me install lots of OSs together on one usb
[19:16] <Swelled> rufus worked fine for me as ISO
[19:18] <ioria> qwebirc64535, if you ask me, i'd keep the 2 os apart, but is personal
[19:19] <qwebirc85350> I'm on mobile now. Not sure if I get the same username
[19:20] <SeTunTun> hello, is there any way to scan my phone in ubuntu with clamtk? The phone is mounted as something like mtp://...
[19:20] <ioria> qwebirc85350,  if you ask me, i'd keep the 2 os apart, but is personal
[19:20] <qwebirc85350> Nope I did not. The Linux noob here trying to install Ubuntu.
[19:20] <SeTunTun> i don't know how to access the device with clamntk
[19:21] <qwebirc85350> Dd worked!
[19:21] <cluelessperson> I'm on a thinkpad x1 carbon 3rd gen, and the wifi takes forever to connect to an access point
[19:21] <cluelessperson> anyone know how to troubleshoot this?
[19:22] <cluelessperson> something I think might be important, I'm in an apartment complex and there are *lots* of wifi points around.
[19:22] <jeremy31> cluelessperson: see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520
[19:23] <jeremy31> qwebirc85350: Check to see if there is an efi directory in /boot
[19:24] <ioria> qwebirc85350,  if it stars, boot the live session, sowe can take a look
[19:27] <AxldenieD> Hi
[19:29] <qwebirc88017> Now I got Grub installation failed 😖
[19:30] <qwebirc88017> Installer crashed
[19:30] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: grub-efi failed to install to /target
[19:30] <mojtaba1> Hello, I have two ubuntu machine. Machine A is connected to the internet and has two network interfaces. It has also VPN. I want to tether one of its wirelesses and with machine B connect to it, but I want to route all the traffic of the machine B through VPN. Do you know how should I do this?
[19:31] <qwebirc88017> Yeah
[19:31] <qwebirc88017> What's that all about?
[19:31] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: open a terminal and post URL from command> sudo parted -l | pastebin
[19:31] <ioria> qwebirc88017, where did you get that error ? you just booted it (grub should be the last part of the installation)
[19:32] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: open a terminal and post URL from command> sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[19:33] <qwebirc88017> I can't rebooted and now I can't use the drive at all
[19:33] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: Can you boot using the USB?
[19:34] <qwebirc88017> Trying the install process again.
[19:34] <qwebirc88017> What file system should I use ?
[19:35] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: you don't need to reinstall, just fix grub
[19:35] <qwebirc88017> I can't get in thought
[19:35] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: It can be done from the USB in terminal
[19:36] <qwebirc88017> Can't get to it if I can't boot a OS?
[19:37] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: When the USB is loaded, open terminal and enter> sudo parted -l
[19:37] <mojtabam> Hello, I have two ubuntu machine. Machine A is connected to the internet and has two network interfaces. It has also VPN. I want to tether one of its wirelesses and with machine B connect to it, but I want to route all the traffic of the machine B through VPN. Do you know how should I do this?
[19:38] <qwebirc88017> I'm in the installation process again sorry. Just wondering when I choose where on the HDD to install I have /Dev/sda1 should I delete it and install on free space?
[19:39] <qwebirc88017> 14mb
[19:39] <qwebirc88017> 16*
[19:39] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: disconnect computer from internet during install, what does sudo parted -l in terminal show?
[19:42] <qwebirc88017> I'm in the "choose a drive to install Ubuntu" part of the installation. Can't find no terminal? What should I use? Ext4 journaling or like EFI system partition?
[19:42] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: ctrl + alt + t should open terminal
[19:42] <qwebirc88017> Should I not try install first then? I have formated the drive since it failed last
[19:43] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: Do automatic install use entire disk if it is empty
[19:43] <Need_JS_Expert> I uploaded my SSL Cert using user ubuntu, not root. I think this is why my SSL is not working. How do I change a file owner from ubuntu to root?
[19:44] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: Is there another drive with Windows?
[19:44] <qwebirc88017> Yes
[19:45] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: is it disconnected?
[19:45] <qwebirc88017> Yes
[19:45] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: then do automatic install using entire disk
[19:46] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: grub install may fail again but don't reboot as that can be fixed
[19:46] <qwebirc88017> Will it be available to boot if it's not like and EFI system portion?or what does the automatic installer use?
[19:46] <DamnBro> Need_JS_Expert, Check out the chown command
[19:46] <DamnBro> Will probably need sudo to do what you want
[19:47] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: Usually automatic install for EFI will make /dev/sda1 efi system partition about 500MB in size
[19:48] <Need_JS_Expert> DamnBro, thanks! worked
[19:48] <qwebirc88017> What happens to the other disk space?
[19:48] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: it will use the rest for /
[19:49] <jeremy31> qwebirc88017: see my sudo parted -l results at http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/35k3CFN4V9/ /dev/sdb is my ubuntu install
[19:51] <ioria> jeremy31, win7 , right ?
[19:51] <tonyt> anyone have any idea on how to enable ipv6 connections in irssi?
[19:52] <jeremy31> ioria: yes on /dev/sda was in another laptop, have it in an optical drive caddy
[19:53] <ioria> jeremy31, i see
[19:53] <tonyt> nm. got it
[20:04] <qwebirc70287> I'm in and it's working! Do I need to do anything before reconnecting my windows drive?
[20:05] <ioria> qwebirc70287, grub installed correctly ?
[20:05] <jeremy31> qwebirc70287: So you have finished install and rebooted?  If so you can probably shut down and connect the other drive
[20:06] <qwebirc70287> Should I do a grub update?
[20:06] <qwebirc70287> Yeah it seems like it installed, no errors
[20:06] <ioria> qwebirc70287, not yet
[20:06] <ioria> qwebirc70287, reconnect the win drive, but boot from bios the ubuntu drive
[20:06] <qwebirc70287> Ok
[20:08] <qwebirc70287> Done! Back in Ubuntu
[20:08] <ioria> qwebirc70287, open a terminal and   sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:09] <qwebirc70287> Done I think
[20:10] <ioria> qwebirc70287, paste the url you got
[20:10] <qwebirc70287> Did not get anything
[20:10] <qwebirc70287> Just asked for password
[20:10] <ioria> qwebirc70287, are yu connected ?
[20:10] <qwebirc70287> Yeah
[20:11] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  sudo parted -ls  and paste on paste.buntu.com
[20:11] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  sudo parted -ls  and paste on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:11] <qwebirc70287> Error could not stat device
[20:12] <qwebirc70287> Invalid token
[20:12] <qwebirc70287> Typed wrong the first time
[20:13] <Anonissimus> can someone tell me what I am not doing right here, I have some certs I need my system to trust, I placed them in /usr/share/ca-certificates/extra I then run sudo update-ca-certificates but I get 0 added and I can't find them in /etc/certs/
[20:13] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  type   sudo parted -l
[20:13] <qwebirc70287> Invalid token
[20:15] <qwebirc70287> Invalid token: sudo
[20:16] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  sudo parted -l /dev/sda
[20:17] <qwebirc70287> Is that a 1 or a L?
[20:17] <qwebirc70287> Invalid token anyways
[20:17] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  it's L
[20:17] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  not 1
[20:18] <qwebirc70287> Yeah
[20:18] <qwebirc70287> Why do I get invalid token: sudo?
[20:18] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:19] <qwebirc70287> Invalid token: sudo
[20:19] <RODX> Hi, anyone with 18.04.1 on a Dell Inspiron 7000 ? What's a normal time for battery ?
[20:21] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  you're typing something wrong ,probably
[20:21] <qwebirc70287> It just asks for my password when I type it in nothing hapoens
[20:21] <ioria> qwebirc70287,   sudo apt update
[20:22] <qwebirc70287> 400 packages can be updated. Should I run?
[20:22] <ioria> qwebirc70287,   nope
[20:22] <qwebirc70287> Ok
[20:23] <mark721> HI GUys!
[20:23] <mark721> i'm doing a file transfer and for some reasont he file tranfer progress window did not appear at all!
[20:23] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  sudo fdisk -l
[20:23] <mark721> does anyone know how to fix this?
[20:24] <qwebirc70287> I got a result from that
[20:24] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  sudo fdisk -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:25] <qwebirc70287> https://termbin.com/vxvi
[20:26] <seven-eleven> is lxc config in ubuntu really the one from  /var/log/lxd/<my_container>/lxc.conf
[20:27] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  ok... before sudo update-grub ... i 'd like to know why sudo parted -l not working
[20:27] <qwebirc70287> Okay, how to?
[20:29] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  cat /etc/issue
[20:30] <qwebirc70287> Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS \n \l
[20:32] <ioria> qwebirc70287,  sudo lsblk -f | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:32] <www2> Hi how can block some ipadress and ports not to use a spasial NIC?
[20:32] <www2> i use ubuntu 18.10
[20:33] <Anonissimus> www2: iptables
[20:33] <www2> oke
[20:34] <cappe> cant seem to find my truebsd installation with grub from latest ubuntu
[20:34] <TJ-> ioria: In sudo, "Token" means one of the labels in sudoers
[20:34] <qwebirc70287> https://termbin.com/felu
[20:35] <TJ-> ioria: which suggests /etc/sudoers{,.d/*} have been edited incorrectly
[20:35] <ioria> TJ-, it's a fresh install ....
[20:35] <TJ-> ioria: I'm just stating what the source-code says :)
[20:35] <www2> Anonissimus: oke any examples?
[20:36] <ioria> TJ-, i see
[20:36] <qwebirc70287> I'm on here as Filikun now, so you know
[20:37] <Filikun> Me
[20:38] <Anonissimus> www2: not without knowing the ports, interfaces, routing and so on ... too many variables and your questions was pretty vague.
[20:38] <ioria> Filikun,  try to upgradee the system :   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:38] <Anonissimus> www2: read up on what iptable can do and check what kind of behavior you want, it is a very complicated matter
[20:38] <Filikun> ioria, doing so now
[20:38] <ioria> ok
[20:39] <Filikun> How do I mention people btw?
[20:40] <SlidingHorn> Filikun: start typing the name and hit tab to auto-complete
[20:40] <Filikun> SlidingHorn: Cool
[20:41] <ioria> Filikun,  open another terminal and   : sudo parted -l /dev/sdb
[20:41] <Filikun> Is there some way to disable all logged in logged out messages?
[20:41] <Filikun> ioria: Yeah what am I looking for?
[20:42] <SlidingHorn> Filikun: /ignore -channels #channelname * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS  (will also disable nick changes)
[20:42] <www2> Anonissimus: I wand not alow traffic from my laptop to iprange <IP_ADDRESS> or port 1985 using my vpn connetion (TUN0
[20:42] <ioria> Filikun,  the same as before    : sudo parted -l /dev/sdb
[20:42] <Filikun> Should I post?
[20:42] <www2> Anonissimus: i use this ip adress and port as a example
[20:43] <ioria> Filikun,  does it work ?
[20:43] <Filikun>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu
[20:43] <Filikun> Yeah
[20:43] <Filikun> FML
[20:43] <ioria> Filikun, sudo parted -l /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:44] <Filikun> https://termbin.com/cslv
[20:44] <ioria> Filikun, ok, we are good then
[20:45] <Filikun> ioria: I think the updating is done to
[20:45] <Anonissimus> www2: so: any traffic from your client with ip destination <IP_ADDRESS> and port 1985 (tcp or udp) should go where?
[20:45] <ioria> Filikun, your system and your connection is a bolt
[20:46] <ioria> Filikun,    ls /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:46] <Filikun> SlidingHorn: Still getting a lot of joined notifications :S
[20:46] <Filikun> SlidingHorn: Still getting a lot of joined notifications :S Did I do it wrong
[20:46] <SlidingHorn> Filikun: what client are you using?
[20:47] <ioria> Filikun,  you put a 'space'  in front of your command
[20:47] <ioria> Filikun,  no spaces
[20:47] <www2> Anonissimus: <IP_ADDRESS> and port 1985 i wand to route over my normal connetion(enp3s0 or wlp2s0) and not over my vpn (tun0)
[20:48] <Filikun> ioria: Should I do the grub update?
[20:48] <ioria> Filikun,    ls /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:50] <Anonissimus> www2: this should get you started https://serverfault.com/questions/198966/iptables-blocking-outbound-traffic-except-to-certain-ip-addresses
[20:50] <ioria> Filikun,  in the channel,please
[20:51] <TJ-> www2: if you want to route specific traffic you need Policy Routing - here's an example: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/21093/output-traffic-on-different-interfaces-based-on-destination-port
[20:52] <Filikun> Hmm I might have ignored everyone
[20:53] <Filikun> It's just the joins and lefts FML
[20:54] <ioria> Filikun,  are you still with us?
[20:55] <Filikun> ioria: idk m8! I think I ignored you all
[20:55] <ioria> Filikun,    ls /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:55] <Filikun> ioria: How do I unignore?
[20:56] <ioria> Filikun,   i'am leaving...please do asi asked
[20:56] <Filikun> ioria: https://termbin.com/3x45
[20:56] <ioria> Filikun,    ok,  sudo update-grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:57] <Filikun> ioria: For some reason I did not get a link for that on
[20:57] <Filikun> e
[20:58] <ioria> Filikun,    sudo update-grub    and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:58] <Filikun> ioria: https://pastebin.com/KpefXbcs
[20:59] <ioria> Filikun,   try a reboot
[20:59] <Filikun> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8FPxMTBFF3/
[20:59] <Filikun> ioria: Still want me to restart?
[21:00] <ioria> Filikun,   why not ?
[21:00] <Filikun> ioria: ok brb
[21:01] <ioria> Filikun,  uubntu should still be the first boot option
[21:01] <ioria> too late
[21:02] <Filikun> ioria: Back! I did get to choose now what to boot up
[21:02] <ioria> Filikun,  ok, remember thet ubuntu has  be the first boot option
[21:03] <Filikun> ioria: Ok! Thanks a lot!
[21:03] <ioria> Filikun, no proble, good job
[21:03] <Filikun> ioria: Really appriciate the help
[21:05] <WoC> Someone kindly help me out on how to tune2fs, in order to upgrade an ext3 partition from ext3 to ext4 ?
[21:05] <texla> In /etc/default/grub if I change grub_gfx mode= To " 1024x768" will it change menu to are larges size
[21:06] <WoC> Yes, i would google it, but my internet connection is crazy unreliable
[21:06] <WoC> so if some would would take pitty on me and help me out, i would appreciate it alot
[21:08] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConvertFilesystemToExt4
[21:16] <andrerkobain> boa noite
[21:17] <EriC^^> !pt | andrerkobain
[21:17] <EriC^^> texla: yeah
[21:18] <texla> EriC^^, thanks for the info
[21:18] <EriC^^> np
[21:44] <Tonytheguitar> Hey! Trying to do my first Ubuntu install and have run in to some problems. Anyone willing to try and help me out?
[21:53] <Tonytheguitar> Hey! Trying to do my first Ubuntu install and have run in to some problems. Anyone willing to try and help me out?
[21:54] <SlidingHorn> !details | Tonytheguitar
[21:56] <Tonytheguitar> When I boot from either a USB or a DVD I get several errors wich all refer to dspkginit-381. Not sure how to explain my problem in any other way at the moment. Has anyone had a similar problem?
[22:05] <Tonytheguitar> When I boot from either a USB or a DVD I get several errors wich all refer to dspkginit-381. Not sure how to explain my problem in any other way at the moment. Has anyone had a similar problem?
[22:09] <OerHeks> Tonytheguitar, i think you need to give more info, about your harware, what ubuntu version, maybe a screenshot?
[22:09] <subvhome> I have a text file with a bunch of commands in it that I created by using sed. When I run the script, i get a bunch of ": No such file or directoryV"
[22:09] <subvhome> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Sh9pTDPwXw/
[22:09] <Doisaac> hello
[22:09] <subvhome> when i copy and paste a line into cli... it works
[22:10] <subvhome> is sed inserting weird characters I can't see?
[22:11] <Tonytheguitar> When I boot from either a USB or a DVD I get several errors wich all refer to dspkginit-381. Not sure how to explain my problem in any other way at the moment. Has anyone had a similar problem? Impossible to add a screenshot due to it happening during boot sequence. MSI board from 2004 (I think) intel i3 (early gen). A it old PC I try to bring to life.
[22:12] <quadrathoch2_> subvhome: you should probably give the script an absolute dir than a relative one
[22:12] <SlidingHorn> Tonytheguitar: what version and flavor of ubuntu are you trying to boot?  Also, you could take a picture with a cell phone or something and upload it to imgur
[22:13] <subvhome> quadrathoch2_ I thought of that... but whats with $ and \r ... and the output... : No such file or directoryV
[22:13] <subvhome> whats with the V...
[22:14] <TJ-> subvhome: sed doesn't understand  $'./EVENTS.CSV\r' (what's the dollae $ sign doing there? )
[22:15] <subvhome> TJ-: It's not there.... when i cat the file.. this is that line..  sed -i "s/A3A6/39th Fl/g" ./EVENTS.CSV
[22:15] <Tonytheguitar> I have tried several versions. But mostly 18.04. I am having problems uploading pics to the PC and am not really able to do a new install try since I am chatting on the same computer I try to install Ubuntu on. The flavour is the "default" I guess. I downloaded the Bunutu Desktop 18.04.1 LTS from ubuntu.com and ran it through Rufus.
[22:15] <subvhome> and if i copy and paste.. into command line .. it works
[22:15] <TJ-> subvhome: we'd need to see the entire chrmcode.sh
[22:16] <subvhome> its just that line at the moment
[22:16] <TJ-> subvhome: from what I can see you've got a loop trying to use the loop var as the filename, but the loop is receiving input that includes \r (Windows Carriage Return) character
[22:16] <SlidingHorn> Tonytheguitar: Did you verify the image when downloaded?  My only other suggestion without more information would be to try a different program to burn the image - Etcher is a decent one www.balena.io/etcher
[22:17] <gorski> ☆
[22:18] <Tonytheguitar> I have tried a couple for the USB. I only had acces to a single use DVD for burning the image but got the same problem. I have followed the steps in the Ubuntu wiki for verification and it checks out as far as I can see.
[22:18] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: it is definitely "dspkginit" not "dpkginit" (note no 's' ) ?
[22:19] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1773024
[22:19] <Tonytheguitar> #TJ- Yes
[22:20] <OerHeks> maybe a biosupdate fixes things
[22:21] <subvhome> TJ- https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cMgMpCDJnH/
[22:21] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: aha, from OerHeks bug find that's a PC/firmware bug in the system, which Linux is reporting. Is it causing thestart-up to fail ?
[22:21] <Tonytheguitar> The more or less complete line saysACPI Exception: Could not find/resolve named package element: _(20170831/dspkginit-301)
[22:22] <TJ-> subvhome: are you working on Ubuntu, or Windows?
[22:22] <Tonytheguitar> Yes. I see the inital graphic and then the error codes.
[22:24] <subvhome> ubuntu
[22:24] <Tonytheguitar> The boot works until I see the graphic... Like a redish screen with a logo of some sort in the bottom. Stays there for about 2 seconds or so and then the errors.
[22:32] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar:  I suspect those warnings are incidental and there is something else causing the primary problem.
[22:33] <Tonytheguitar> Any idea what it can be? I've been looking for a BIOS upgrade but my motheroard is apparantly to old so I can't find any siupport for it. That is about as far as I have gotten...
[22:34] <OerHeks> i find no clue, it seems all about 4.15
[22:34] <TJ-> subvhome: I can't reproduce the issue here via your aste line 4, it outputs nothing, and the intention of the code isn't very clerar
[22:34] <Tonytheguitar> I have tried various different settings in the current BIOS to try and circumvent the problem without any luck.
[22:34] <OerHeks> try a 18.10 with 4.18
[22:34] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: what OS is the PC currently running?
[22:35] <OerHeks> https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-System-and-Recovery/acpi-error-with-linux/td-p/6021489/page/2 https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/114987/error-message-on-boot-kernel-414/  https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/7u3bxh/cmv_im_starting_to_think_that_arch_isnt_for_me/ https://github.com/jakeday/linux-surface/issues/70
[22:35] <Tonytheguitar> Windows 7 Ulitmate 64 bit
[22:35] <OerHeks> manny issues with this
[22:39] <subvhome> my point is that the code works
[22:39] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: OerHeks it looks like adding "acpi=strict" to the kernel command-line at boot-time may help
[22:39] <subvhome> but i thinnk sed is creating funky characters
[22:40] <Tonytheguitar> Ok. TJ- How can I do that?
[22:40] <TJ-> subvhome: that's what  mean, the intention of that stream of sed pipes is unclear, and makes me think there is a much better way to achieve whatever the intention is. It looks more like a job for awk
[22:41] <subvhome> hmmm i see
[22:41] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: As the PC boots you should be able to get to the boot-loader and edit the kernel command-line to add "acpi=strict" - depending on whether the PC boots in Legacy/BIOS or UEFI mode, the way to do that is slightly different
[22:41] <Tonytheguitar> It boots in Legacy/BIOS...
[22:41] <TJ-> OerHeks: don't we have a bot factoid for how to edit the installer command line?
[22:42] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[22:42] <OerHeks> nomodeset would be the same procedure
[22:43] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[22:43] <OerHeks> acpi=strict  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=strict"
[22:43] <Tonytheguitar> Ok. I really appriciate your help but please bear in mind I am new to this... and to this forum....
[22:43] <OerHeks> i would try 18.10 ...
[22:43] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: the sections beginning "Ubuntu CD Advanced Welcome Page Options"
[22:44] <Tonytheguitar> I have tried 18.10 and got the same result....
[22:44] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: then "Changing the CD's Default Boot Options" and finally the "F6" instructions
[22:45] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: where it says "n addition to displaying preset boot options, pressing the F6 key also opens the "Boot Options" line for manual editing once the popup window is closed. (See next section)." ... so read on :D
[22:45] <Tonytheguitar> The problem is I never see that screen before the errors occur...
[22:45] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: where you see them adding "vga=791" you instead add "acpi=strict"
[22:46] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: you will if you tap the Esc or Shift keys, those parts are before the Linux kernel loads
[22:47] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar:  "As the CD boots, the user can gain access to the advanced page and its options by pressing any key when the small logo appears at the bottom of your screen"
[22:47] <Tonytheguitar> Ahh.. Saw that now. Is there anyway to acces this chat from a MacOS?
[22:48] <subvhome> TJ- so cat -v shows character codes
[22:48] <Sveta> Tonytheguitar, 'quassel irc' app is available for mac, pretty good for a chat client to this channel
[22:48] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: freenode has a web-based IRC client
[22:48] <Sveta> Tonytheguitar, make sure you select 'freenode' network and type in '#ubuntu' as the channel name
[22:48] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar: as in https://webchat.freenode.net/
[22:48] <Sveta> Tonytheguitar, i think it has freenode by default anyway
[22:49] <Tonytheguitar> Need to change computers to be able to keep you with me while I try...
[22:49] <Sveta> ok :)
[22:49] <ubuntricks> trying to help someone running 18.04_64 dont know d.e. box not in front of me wifi wont connect but OK running live| eth OK and i dont know #lshw -c network output
[22:50] <Tonytheguitar_> Yay. I think I am on two seperate machines at the same time now...
[22:51] <Tonytheguitar> Gonna leave on this machine now and try your suggegstions...
[22:52] <Sveta> nice
[22:52] <TJ-> ubuntricks: verify the basics; kernel module being used ("lspci -nnk -d ::0280") and that any required firmware is available ("modinfo -F firmware <module-name>" and ls -l /lib/firmware/<firmware-file-from-modinfo>") then look at the boot log for warnings ("journalctl -b -p warning") and check the network log ("journalctl -u NetworkManager")
[22:55] <Sven_vB> systemd seems to be out of control on one of my xenial machines. it just reported it would have stopped tor, also masked it, "service tor status" reports it as inactive/dead, but TOR still writes to my syslog.
[22:55] <Sven_vB> any ideas what could be wrong?
[22:56] <ubuntricks> TJ-: ty will do...|i also told them to check their gui menu administration for option to use proprietary driver(s)|and to try re-installing the wifi driver(s)
[22:56] <Tonytheguitar_> TJ-: Could you please explain again what I needed to try? In the boot options...
[22:56] <Tonytheguitar_> Please'
[22:56] <Sven_vB> also network manager and avahi fail to start due to dbus timeouts. however, in recovery mode (the grub option), when I select "enable network", wifi works as expected, including avahi.
[22:58] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: copied to https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V4K3sW8Msh/
[22:58] <Tonytheguitar_> Thank you!
[23:11] <Tonytheguitar_> TJ- the Boot Options line is empty... is it supposed to be empty?
[23:12] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: you should something there up to "quiet splash"
[23:13] <Tonytheguitar_> There is only Boot Options and then an empty line displaying...
[23:13] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: if you use cursor-left/right does any text scroll into view?
[23:14] <Tonytheguitar_> TJ- Nope...
[23:14] <Tonytheguitar_> nothing
[23:15] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: I'm confused!
[23:15] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: you pressed F6 ?
[23:15] <Tonytheguitar_> When I moved the highlithed item I see some text besides Boot Options...
[23:17] <Tonytheguitar_> Sorry for being such a noob...
[23:17] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: don't apologise; trying to communicate what you see like this is always difficult when our expectation are of something else!
[23:17] <Tonytheguitar_> Now I got ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI 51 and 55
[23:18] <Tonytheguitar_> It seems to go on tho...
[23:18] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: the reason I'm confused is, on that web page where you see the screenshot of the Boot Options being edited, the parts leading up to an including "initrd=/casper/initrd.lz" are essential - it cannot boot without them
[23:19] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: but I've not used that installer in a long time, it is possible it's been changed slightly so you cannot see the 'required' parts
[23:20] <Tonytheguitar_> Yes. I understand your confusion. When you press F6 key and then the Esc key you can edit the Boot Options line but you need to highlight the Install ubuntu option in the list above to get the command lines.
[23:21] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: ahhhh... that would make eminent sense!
[23:21] <Tonytheguitar_> Oh crap... this might be a bit late to think of now but what happens to the partitions on the drive I install Ubuntu on?
[23:22] <Tonytheguitar_> Lets say I have windows 7 on a C: and on the same drive I have a partition with just data such as photos, documents etc on. Does it only write over the C: part?
[23:23] <Tonytheguitar_> Haha. I might find out soon. I see a cursor...
[23:27] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: it'll want to obtain some free space to install in, so it'll ask what you want to do , such as shrinking existing file-systems
[23:28] <Tonytheguitar_> Ok. Thank the lord (wich ever you believe in).... Just realized I might want to keep some things from the drive
[23:29] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: we sometimes/usually recommends shrinking the Windows file-systems using the Windows disk management tools first. In some circumstances the Linux tools cannot safely do that
[23:30] <Tonytheguitar_> Well I saw that on a post before I got desperate but my windows isn't really 100% legal to start with so I just want to get rid of it, learn Ubuntu and try to make the Desktop PC a server...
[23:32] <Tonytheguitar_> TJ-: Hmmm... How much space do Ubuntu need to operate?
[23:33] <TJ-> Tonytheguitar_: I generally give 8GB for rootfs, another 8GB for /var/ and then additional for /home/ , so say 16GB for the rootfs in your case + whatever you think you'll collect in your home directory (media files will be the main eater of space I'd assume)
[23:34] <prozack200mg> are yuou installing a sever version on ubuntu?
[23:35] <Tonytheguitar_> TJ-: Thanks. Lets just pray I don't loose anything I would like to keep that I haven't got to backup I guess.