[08:23] <ubotu> phiras: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:24] <RealMurphy> Xacarith: Then I guess you should just install it :)
[08:25] <needles_> capcom, Jucato : whats the worst that could happen if i rebooted and then tried to upgrade again
[08:25]  * Xacarith heads to bed for now
[08:25] <needles_> i just followed the instructions on the website
[08:25] <Jucato> needles_: unbootable system
[08:25] <needles_> its sort of lame that this is happening
[08:25] <PsySine> sometimes, every time I enter a new folder in konqueror, konqueror hangs up for about 24 seconds. any ideas? it's been this way since many kubuntu releases back
[08:26] <needles_> Jucato : well ive got to do something, ill be off to bed soon
[08:26] <PsySine> is also hangs for only a few seconds when I do other things
[08:27] <guuuuh> please, can anyone help me connecting two pcs by crossover cable, so i can test squid? im using a crossover cable, one side is: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7... the other: 3, 6, 1, 4, 5, 2, 7... i configured the ips on the same network, set the gateway on the "client" but i cant ping them... the interfaces are working nice... any idea?
[08:27] <bazhang> PsySine: this is on Gutsy? Have you tried Dolphin?
[08:28] <PsySine> bazhang: i uninstalled dolphin but I can try and see if it's different
[08:29] <aftertaf> anyone know why DMA cant be activated on IDE system in gutsy?
[08:29] <PsySine> bazhang: dolphin has the same problem
[08:29] <mads2> anyone familiar with cdrecorder in console?
[08:30] <bazhang> PsySine: might it be GPU related?
[08:30] <mads2> i need the command to burn an .iso to cdr in console.
[08:30] <PsySine> bazhang: no idea...
[08:31] <dennister> Jucato: do u use cdrecord in console?
[08:31] <mads2> or some other app that burns cds
[08:31] <mads2> its all good
[08:31] <Jucato> dennister: nope
[08:31] <dennister> does anyone?
[08:31] <mads2> i can apt-get install whatever.
[08:31] <needles_> does anyone have any suggestions on my frozen gutsy upgrade?
[08:31] <bazhang> mads2: try K3b
[08:31] <needles_> stuck at 60% install
[08:32] <dennister> not quite mads...you couldn't get kubuntu-desktop to install
[08:32] <mads2> true that.
[08:32] <mads2> because of the corrupt livecd.
[08:32] <runlevelten> k3b ftw, definitely.
[08:32] <mads2> whats the command then?
[08:32] <mads2> to burn a cd in console?
[08:32] <mads2> when using k3b
[08:33] <aftertaf> needles_: download a new livecd and boot to it, chroot to your broken systeml and continue the upgrade...?
[08:33] <runlevelten> you don't use k3b in a konsole, although you could use kdcop to see how to drive it from a script, like any kde app.
[08:33] <mads2> i dont have xorg
[08:33] <bazhang> PsySine: the only oddity I have had with Konqueror/Dolphin is if the file name begins with a not alphabet character, such as { or the like. Sorry couldn't be of more assistance.
[08:33] <mads2> a working xorg
[08:33] <sub[t]rnl> mads2: whatcha trying to burn?
[08:33] <mads2> a working kubuntu cd
[08:33] <mads2> the one i burned in windows
[08:33] <mads2> didnt work
[08:34] <sub[t]rnl> ah, so just ah .iso?
[08:34] <needles_> aftertaf : that sounds terrible
[08:34] <mads2> i noticed that AFTER i had the shit installed
[08:34] <needles_> i knew that upgrading was a bad idea
[08:34] <mads2> partitions fixed to reiserfs etc.
[08:34] <mads2> sub[t]rnl: yes.
[08:34] <aftertaf> needles_: lol.....  its not that bad.
[08:35] <runlevelten> oh in that case, look at cdrecord
[08:35] <mads2> an .iso to get a fully working ubuntu.
[08:35] <mads2> i did
[08:35] <mads2> whats the command?
[08:35] <bazhang> needles_: did you back up your important docs beforehand?
[08:35] <dennister> mads2: sub[t]rnl is very good at helping
[08:35] <runlevelten> the command is man cdrecord
[08:35] <runlevelten> ;)
[08:35] <mads2> no it isnt.
[08:35] <sub[t]rnl> mads2: try makedvd -burn blah.iso
[08:35] <bazhang> :}
[08:35] <mads2> man cdrecord is for people who have hours upon hours
[08:35] <needles_> bazhang : nay, i did not
[08:35] <mads2> k
[08:36] <needles_> but presumably ill still be able to get to them from another partition install
[08:36] <runlevelten> Erm... no.
[08:36] <dennister> besides, mads2's man command isn't working either
[08:36] <mads2> no such thing as makedvd
[08:36] <runlevelten> You have time to glance at a man page if you have time to seek support in irc.
[08:36] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install makedvd
[08:36] <mads2> this OS is -fucked-.
[08:36] <runlevelten> the first takes less time.
[08:36] <mads2> i did
[08:36] <mads2> that didnt work.
[08:36] <bazhang> needles_: if you had a separate home directory, or a shared directory with Windows, then a fresh install won't be so bad.
[08:36] <mads2> there was no makedvd available.
[08:36] <dennister> runlevelten: u don't understand
[08:37] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, makedvd was probably part of a package suit
[08:37] <sub[t]rnl> let me dig it up
[08:37] <mads2> but i dont have DVDs
[08:37] <mads2> only CDRs
[08:37] <aftertaf> its not a dvd you have, the ISO ?
[08:37] <dennister> runlevelten: mads2 tried man cdrecord and man isn't even installed yet
[08:37] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install dvd+rw-tools
[08:37] <mads2> i dont think so, no
[08:37] <mads2> its a normal 7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[08:37] <sub[t]rnl> mads2: install that package
[08:38] <runlevelten> mads2: you have any live cds?
[08:38] <aftertaf> cdw..... but not installed by default.
[08:38] <aftertaf> mads2: how did you originally install kubuntu?
[08:39] <runlevelten> oh damn, eth working day starts.
[08:39] <dennister> runlevelten: he has one, but it's corrupt, which is why he's trying to record another one from cli
[08:39] <mads2> sub[t]rnl: done.
[08:39] <mads2> still now 'makedvd' command.
[08:39] <sub[t]rnl> no worries
[08:39] <sub[t]rnl> now
[08:39] <sub[t]rnl> do you know the location of your burning in /dev/?
[08:40] <mads2> yeah
[08:40] <sub[t]rnl> if not, check your /etc/fstab to see the device
[08:40] <sub[t]rnl> ok, good
[08:40] <sub[t]rnl> cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom driveropts=burnfree -v -data cd_image.iso
[08:40] <mads2> must be /dev/cdrom
[08:40] <mads2> or /dev/cdr
[08:40] <sub[t]rnl> ok, replace what yours is with the above command
[08:40] <mads2> erm, /dev/cdrw
[08:40] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[08:40] <dennister> aftertaf: while mads2 is following sub[t]rnl's instructions...he installed kubuntu from a livecd, but the iso file on it was corrupt, so he doesn't even have xorg server
[08:40] <capcom> Jucato: the gtk2-hint worked fine. thank you
[08:41] <Jucato> np
[08:41] <needles_> dennister : how do you do your upgrade to gutsy? through the graphical, or in the console with apt-get upgrade install
[08:41] <Delphinus> I need a Java runtime environment... would you install java-gcj-compact? or sun-java6-jre?
[08:42] <mads2> looks like it works, sub[t]rnl
[08:42] <mads2> its burning
[08:42] <mads2> hooray!
[08:42] <mads2> \o/
[08:42] <dennister> needles_: i saw you were stuck at 60%...was that in the fetch stage, or install stage
[08:42] <sub[t]rnl> mads2: :P
[08:42] <dennister> mads2: see? i told u sub[t]rnl would take care of u :)
[08:42]  * sub[t]rnl purrs
[08:42] <mads2> yus
[08:42] <mads2> ta, sub[t]rnl .
[08:42] <mads2> appreciated indeed.
[08:42] <mads2> lets hope * works this time.
[08:43] <dennister> sub[t]rnl was helping me big time last night...much mroe experienced than i at helping folks
[08:43] <dennister> needles_: i finally got my gutsy upgrade through a mixture of graphical and console
[08:43] <sub[t]rnl> dennister: you help out a lot here too
[08:44] <needles_> dennister : the install stage
[08:44] <aftertaf> ncie one ...... :)
[08:44] <dennister> sub[t]rnl: i'm trying now to help, but i haven't been in the channel for awhile...although jucato knows me...i'm usually *getting* help instead of giving
[08:45] <dennister> needles_: do you remember where it stopped?
[08:45]  * Jucato looks around.... false alarm...
[08:45] <sub[t]rnl> Jucato: hehe
[08:45] <dennister> which file? probably not debconf
[08:45] <needles_> dennister : its still going, its stuck on "configuring cfs"
[08:45] <bazhang> Delphinus: the jre; the gcj has some known bugs associated with it, that are not only affecting Ubuntu, but Suse and others as well.
[08:45] <sub[t]rnl> i'm guessing when you say Jucato a notifier pops up eh?
[08:45] <Jucato> Delphinus: sun -jre
[08:45] <Jucato> Konvi just beeps
[08:45] <Delphinus> bazhang: Jucato, thanks for that info, thought i'd check first :)
[08:45] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[08:46] <sub[t]rnl> i should really give a graphical chat client a try
[08:46] <bazhang> :}
[08:46] <dennister> needles_: so the installation of all the files hasn't aborted?
[08:46] <Jucato> sub[t]rnl: irssi?
[08:46] <sub[t]rnl> i just can't leave my roots with bitchx
[08:46] <sub[t]rnl> :/
[08:46] <Jucato> ah
[08:46] <Jucato> bitchx should have a beeping feature too. just look around
[08:46] <aftertaf> sub[t]rnl: you're a console junkie, you cant do anything about it :)
[08:46]  * sub[t]rnl grabs his walker
[08:47] <needles_> dennister : no, i havent closed it yet
[08:47] <needles_> its just sitting there, stuck, telling me endlessly that i have 16 minutes until it finishes
[08:48] <dennister> needles_: have you tried doing the alt-tab through a few cycles to see if there's an error message or blue screen with questions you need to answer?
[08:48] <Jucato> needles_: if you do close it and try to continue from the command line, try to use "sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade --install-recommends"
[08:48] <aftertaf> needles_: dont you have enough bandwidth for an install via internet?
[08:48] <Jucato> (just in case)
[08:48] <Jucato> aftertaf: I think it's done downloading the packages and stuck at installing
[08:48] <aftertaf> k
[08:49] <aftertaf> whats cfs anyway.....?
[08:49] <esperegu> Anyone knows why XRANDR might be 'not selecting the default resolution'? If I run xrandr -s 0 it selects the one I need.. I thought that should happen automaticly.
[08:49] <capcom> as it seems, with gutsy it's not necessary to type in the "root pass" every time you start a kdesu-app?
[08:49] <dennister> needles_: if it's been stuck there forever, you might have to do the ctrl+c to close it, then use jucato's suggestion
[08:50] <aftertaf> capcom: it remembers you for a few minutes...
[08:50] <dennister> mads2: how r u faring? is the iso almost burnt yet?
[08:50] <Hamra> capcom: it does that with feisty too, just for a few minutes
[08:50] <Jucato> Hamra: not kdesu in feisty
[08:50] <Jucato> it's a new feature in Gutsy, brought through kdesudo
[08:50] <needles_> aftertaf : yeah, i have a 7mps connection
[08:51] <stupidgirl> blerk default dophin = gheyness
[08:51]  * Jucato pokes needles_'s adept w/ needles
[08:51] <aftertaf> i added myself to sudo group and had no pw woes...... but that has changed since :(
[08:51] <Jucato> !d3lphin | stupidgirl
[08:51] <ubotu> stupidgirl: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[08:51] <dennister> lol @ jucato
[08:51] <stupidgirl> yah fo rly Jucato
[08:52] <Jucato> excuse me?
[08:52] <stupidgirl> you're excused
[08:52]  * aftertaf breaks a rib
[08:52] <Jucato> behave stupidgirl
[08:52] <needles_> ok, im going to stop it
[08:52] <stupidgirl> I always do
[08:52] <needles_> and use your suggestion jucato
[08:52] <sub[t]rnl> mee yow
[08:52] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[08:52] <stupidgirl> rawr
[08:52] <bazhang> good luck needles_
[08:53] <needles_> bazhang : thanks
[08:53] <aftertaf> sub[t]rnl: back from wanderings?   you spent 40 posts in the wilderness :)
[08:53] <dennister> mads2: done burning?
[08:53] <sub[t]rnl> aftertaf: the trees were calling
[08:53] <capcom> aftertaf, Hamra: thanx. i realized this formerly only in console when using sudo
[08:54] <Jucato> capcom: that's why kdesu was "upgraded" to kdesudo so that it will behave the same way
[08:54] <dennister> * is stepping away for a cancer stick...bb in 7 min
[08:54] <sub[t]rnl> mmn same
[08:54] <aftertaf> dennister: boooohhh!
[08:54]  * aftertaf too :)
[08:55] <dennister> heheheh
[08:55] <capcom> might this generally be a security problem, when a "bad" application tries to start with root privileges short after someone started a kdesudo-app?
[08:55] <stupidgirl> 83 days since i lst smoked a cancer stick w00t fer me
[08:55] <aftertaf> w00t 4 U indeed
[08:56] <Jucato> capcom: sudo isnt a security problem right? so it's the same with kdesudo
[08:56] <stupidgirl> does anyoneknow why, when starting compiz in ubuntu 7.10 with kde, i get a black screen for a few seconds, and if there is a way 2 stop it
[08:57] <capcom> Jucato: ok. was just wondering.. the world is bad ;)
[08:57] <sub[t]rnl> yeah i think you can start compiz before it tryis to load the default kdewm stupid girl
[08:57] <sub[t]rnl> try sticking -> export KDEWM=compiz in your .bashrc
[08:58] <stupidgirl> ook thnx sub[t]rnl
[08:58] <chakie_work> hm, this newer kde has lost mouse gestures for konqueror
[08:58] <Jucato> chakie_work: check System Settings -> Accessibility -> Input Actons ?
[08:59] <chakie_work> Jucato: yeah, i already found that
[08:59] <aftertaf> sub[t]rnl: hmm ill try that too.
[08:59] <aftertaf> if xrashage, rebootage...
[08:59] <chakie_work> Jucato: but that is one of the things that's a major thing to get to work, the ui is weird
[09:00] <Jucato> chakie_work: you don't have to create new gestures if you want. there are already built-in gestures
[09:00] <chakie_work> hm, i have no idea what i'm supposed to do in that view
[09:00] <chakie_work> Jucato: yes, and i've used those for years. now i can't find "them" anymore
[09:00] <Jucato> you mean Input Actions is empty?
[09:01] <chakie_work> yes
[09:01] <Jucato> ok now that's a bug...
[09:01] <chakie_work> the listbox? yes, it is
[09:01] <sub[t]rnl> eep
[09:01] <needles_> ok, i closed the installer
[09:01] <aftertaf> hmm, even better...
[09:01] <Jucato> hm... someone had the same problem before.. forgot how he resolved it
[09:01] <needles_> but in console, its telling me theres a dpkg lock
[09:01] <aftertaf> i drop back to kde & kwm... :)
[09:01] <Jucato> needles_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:01] <Jucato> kwin you mean :)
[09:01] <chakie_work> Jucato: well, i really only need the back, next and close tag gestures
[09:01] <aftertaf> yeah... :)
[09:01] <dennister> oh great...the dpkg locks! :(
[09:02] <bazhang> chakie_work: input actions has some pre-defined gestures here.
[09:02] <chakie_work> Jucato: but that ui is a royal mess...
[09:02] <aftertaf> looooool dennister :)
[09:02] <needles_> "status database area is locked by another process"
[09:02] <Jucato> chakie_work: the PrintScreen is also based on Input Asctions...
[09:02] <Jucato> needles_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:02] <dennister> they were giving me a real problem last night too, during my upgrade
[09:02] <needles_> Jucato : thats what it tells me when i put that in
[09:03] <Jucato> !aptfix
[09:03] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:03] <Jucato> needles_: those two commands ^^^
[09:03] <sub[t]rnl> rm the lock
[09:03] <needles_> Jucato : alright
[09:03] <aftertaf> !compiz
[09:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:04] <aftertaf> time to recheck everything for compiz, i think...
[09:04] <dennister> i wonder where mads2 went to...
[09:04] <needles_> ok, what do i do now?
[09:06] <Jucato> needles_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:06] <Jucato> done?
[09:06] <dennister> needles_: now: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:06] <needles_> had no effect
[09:06] <chakie_work> Jucato: well, this view is incredible. i'm definitely no noob, but i have no clue at all as to how to setup konqueror gestures
[09:06] <Jucato> needles_: sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade --install-recommends
[09:06] <needles_> Jucato : thers still a lock on it
[09:06] <Jucato> O.o
[09:07] <Jucato> chakie_work: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086781.0
[09:07] <ke-> Anyone here playing Eve Online on kubuntu?
[09:07] <needles_> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg
[09:07] <Jucato> needles_: er.. "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" first
[09:07] <Jucato> needles_: then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:09] <dennister> only once that lock is removed can you start the installation process up again with my command string
[09:09] <roguejedix> Here's an interesting development: adept wants me to upgrade to gutsy. Which is what I'm using right now.
[09:09] <needles_> dennister : yeah, i know
[09:09] <needles_> the commands dont seem to be having any effect
[09:09] <dennister> i wish i could remember how i finally dealt with my lock
[09:10] <chakie_work> Jucato: thanks! no wonder i couldn't figure it out, even the author seems to have problems with it
[09:10] <dennister> roguejedix: that's a known bug...i just ignore it for now
[09:10] <needles_> !lock
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <needles_> !dpkglock
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkglock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <roguejedix> dennister: So it's safe to assume it's going away after a certain update?
[09:11] <chakie_work> Jucato: of course, those instructions are outdated
[09:11] <dennister> roguejedix: yes
[09:11] <chakie_work> Jucato: i'll just use firefox, it has nice gestures as plugins
[09:11] <bazhang> !aptfix
[09:11] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:11] <roguejedix> dennister: I see. Thanks for clearing that up
[09:11] <dennister> np
[09:11] <Jucato> chakie_work: you consider a 1 month-old post as outdated?
[09:11] <needles_> Jucato, dennister : what process is dont it?
[09:11] <needles_> i could kill it, but i dont know what it is
[09:12] <needles_> and when i press ctrl + esc i see messed up data
[09:12] <dennister> what about whiptail?
[09:12] <needles_> being the semi state of upgrade that my system is in
[09:12] <dennister> sub[t]rnl: were u helping me kill the whiptail process last night?
[09:12] <chakie_work> Jucato: i was wrong, i looked for the needed button in the totally wrong place
[09:12] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, yeah i think so
[09:12] <sub[t]rnl> run top in a cli, locate the pid, then kill -5 it
[09:13] <dennister> sub[t]rnl: needles_ may be affected by it now
[09:13] <sub[t]rnl> or do ps aux |grep whiptail
[09:13] <aftertaf> oh well, no compiz for me....
[09:13] <sub[t]rnl> needles_: follow those steps
[09:13]  * Jucato goes back to work...
[09:13] <chakie_work> oh man...
[09:14] <chakie_work> who really thought that anyone could use this dialog?
[09:14] <sub[t]rnl> dennister did
[09:14] <sub[t]rnl> :}
[09:14] <bazhang> compiz is seriously over-rated; waiting for KDE4 w/ OpenGL :}
[09:14] <Jucato> chakie_work: the real solution to your problem would be to find out why Input Actions is empty and how to bring back the contents. unfortunately I don't know how
[09:14] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, kde4 using kwin for its cube compositing is going to be nice
[09:14] <dennister> what?
[09:15] <sub[t]rnl> dennister: nm :P
[09:15] <chakie_work> Jucato: yeah, it's happened on all my upgraded machines (three)
[09:15] <Jucato> chakie_work: but just to test, close System Settings, run "kbuildsycoca" (ignore any error message you see) and try looking into Input Actions again
[09:15] <aftertaf> someone should to a faq for these fixes......
[09:15] <aftertaf> s/to/do
[09:16] <needles_> how else could i kill the lock?
[09:16] <sub[t]rnl> needles_: rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:16] <chakie_work> Jucato: no difference
[09:16] <Jucato> chakie_work: hm.. something really wrong. no idea sorry
[09:17] <Jucato> sub[t]rnl: you missed one sudo :)
[09:17]  * sub[t]rnl nuzzles his wine glass
[09:17] <chakie_work> Jucato: thanks for the help. i'll see if i can somehow hack up something. but i fear it's easier to code up a new solution than use that abomination of  adialog
[09:17] <dennister> needles_: did u try the top? or type "ps aux |grep whiptail" look for whiptail?
[09:18] <needles_> i just did "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:18] <dennister> if you see any mention of 'whiptail' that's what you may have to kill
[09:18] <needles_> like sub[t]rnl said, and it had an effect
[09:18] <sub[t]rnl> odd
[09:18] <needles_> stuff is being "set up"
[09:18] <needles_> what did that command do? "rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[09:18] <dennister> wonderful!
[09:19] <dennister> needles_: if things are being "set-up" that means your upgrade is going again
[09:19] <matthias_> hi, after installing kubuntu 7.10 from CD Adapt says there would be a distribution ubgrade, which then fails because the repositories are already gutsy. How do I get rid of the upgrade notice?
[09:19] <sub[t]rnl> yeah needles, you need to check for whiptail like dennister said though
[09:19] <Jucato> matthias_: known bug. will be fixed. ignore first
[09:19] <sub[t]rnl> if its hanging around its gonna chew up a lot of cpu
[09:20] <matthias_> thanks
[09:20] <needles_> "1000      5641  0.0  0.0   5116   816 pts/4    S+   03:19   0:00 grep whiptail"
[09:20] <needles_> i dont know what that means
[09:20] <sub[t]rnl> k, your good
[09:20] <Jucato> needles_: that wasn't for you :P
[09:20] <needles_> oh, ha
[09:20] <Jucato> it was between sub[t]rnl and dennister
[09:21] <Jucato> their own secret love affair
[09:21]  * Jucato goes back to being busy
[09:21] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[09:21] <dennister> sub[t]rnl: but the whole object of checking for whiptail was to remove the lock, and it seems the lock is gone if his upgrade has re-commenced
[09:21] <needles_> what do i do once this is finished?
[09:21] <sub[t]rnl> dennister: whiptail isn't part of the actual lock
[09:21] <dennister> if "stuff is being "set up" " like needles_ said
[09:21] <sub[t]rnl> its just left overs
[09:21] <needles_> oh my, its back to setting up cfs, but this time in console
[09:21] <sub[t]rnl> whiptail is just kinda like ncurses, used to draw up dialog boxes in a terminal
[09:22] <dennister> let's see if it hangs in terminal, or continues like it should
[09:22] <needles_> i dont even know why its installed
[09:22] <needles_> its a stenography program
[09:22] <needles_> and it is hanging yet again
[09:22] <sub[t]rnl> you'll see a hot cpu from people not killing whiptail after ctrl +c'ing or disrupting a dpkg or update
[09:22] <needles_> im going to cancel, uninstall cfs
[09:22] <needles_> then redo
[09:23] <dennister> cancel, uninstall cfs, then look for whiptail, kill it
[09:23] <bazhang> just checking out top; what is 'zombie'?
[09:23] <Jucato> a process that can't be killed...
[09:23] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[09:23]  * Jucato whistles innocently
[09:23] <sub[t]rnl> rofl!
[09:23] <bazhang> haha
[09:23] <sub[t]rnl> ok, that one got me
[09:24] <dennister> yes, very funny :)
[09:24] <Jucato> no seriously
[09:24] <Jucato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
[09:24] <bazhang> bad to have one?
[09:24] <dennister> poor needles_...and poor mads2
[09:24] <Jucato> Zombie process, an inactive (but unkillable, hence "undead") computer process
[09:24] <dennister> no one should have to go through this kind of pain
[09:25] <sub[t]rnl> phew, i thought that was just you punning us all Jucato
[09:25] <Jucato> I was... and being serious... who says I can't do both? :P
[09:25] <sub[t]rnl> brilliant
[09:25] <guuuuh> can anyone help me with a simple question about iptables?
[09:26] <needles_> ok, so heres the condition now
[09:26] <sub[t]rnl> !ask | guuuh
[09:26] <ubotu> guuuh: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:26] <dennister> mads2: u alive?
[09:26] <Jucato> !iptables
[09:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:26] <needles_> the package "cfs" is making my upgrade install freeze
[09:26] <needles_> i just sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:26] <bazhang> thanks Jucato! thought it might be a storm botnet or some such. phew!
[09:26] <Jucato> :D
[09:26] <needles_> and now its telling me to run dpkg --configure -a
[09:26] <needles_> but that will cause it to stall once more
[09:27] <needles_> so i need to find a way to get cfs removed
[09:27] <needles_> i just installed it today too, i have no idea why
[09:27] <needles_> !cfs
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <bazhang> would cfs be the completely fair scheduler?
[09:28] <Jucato> !info cfs
[09:28] <ubotu> cfs: Cryptographic Filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-18 (gutsy), package size 184 kB, installed size 564 kB
[09:28] <needles_> no, its a cryptographic filesystem
[09:28] <dennister> guys, should he do the dpkg --configure -a first, or first do apt-get remove --purge cfs?
[09:28] <bazhang> ok. thanks!
[09:28] <needles_> sudo apt-get remove --purge cfs
[09:29] <sub[t]rnl> i.. guess.. not sure how cfs is keeping him from unlocking dpkg though
[09:29] <sub[t]rnl> but i've seen stranger things
[09:29] <needles_> because when i put in --configure -a it just goes through the whole of it, back to cfs and then hangs
[09:29] <needles_> its like a never ending circle
[09:30] <sub[t]rnl> k, kill its process? or just purge it like dennister said
[09:30] <needles_> i cant uninstall cfs until i run --configure, but i can run configure through unless i get cfs removed
[09:30] <needles_> cfs isnt running
[09:30] <dennister> let's purge it first then, followed by the dpkg --configure -a
[09:31] <sub[t]rnl> well, he wont be able to purge it with apt
[09:31] <sub[t]rnl> locked and all
[09:31] <needles_> apt isnt locked anymore
[09:31] <sub[t]rnl> ah, righto
[09:31] <dennister> see if this order works...if not, no harm trying
[09:31] <sub[t]rnl> aint linux fun?
[09:31] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[09:31] <needles_> but it now wants to be --configured
[09:31] <needles_> sub[t]rnl : heh
[09:31] <dennister> lol
[09:32] <dennister> i should shut up...
[09:32] <dennister> contrast83: u alive? i believe you were helping me last night with the dist upgrade?
[09:32] <needles_> ok, i just ran dpkg --configure -a again
[09:32] <needles_> and its hanging again on cfs
[09:33] <needles_> !info ldconfig
[09:33] <ubotu> Package ldconfig does not exist in gutsy
[09:34] <dennister> needles_: did you ever try the dpkg remove --purge cfs?
[09:34] <needles_> dennister : yeah
[09:34] <sub[t]rnl> what happened?
[09:35] <needles_> it says i need an action input
[09:35] <needles_> wait, no i didnt before
[09:35] <needles_> i just did it and it tells me that
[09:35] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get --purge remove cfs
[09:35] <sub[t]rnl> then sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:35] <dennister> oops, i forgot...mixed up apt-get line with dpkg line
[09:35] <needles_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:36] <needles_> i cant uninstall it
[09:36] <needles_> because it wants me to do that
[09:36] <dennister> it's all the fault of those locks with the 'dpkg line'
[09:36] <needles_> but i can do that, because itll just stall at "setting up cfs" and lock dpkg again
[09:37] <sub[t]rnl> well this sucks needles_
[09:37] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[09:37] <needles_> sub[t]rnl : indeed it does
[09:38] <needles_> there must be a way around it though
[09:38] <sub[t]rnl> there always is
[09:38] <Hamra> what is the name of the package that have M$ fonts?
[09:38] <dennister> is the adept notifier icon in your docker?
[09:38] <needles_> i dont know what it could be
[09:38] <needles_> there was, but it just crashed
[09:38] <bazhang> mscorefonts
[09:38] <sub[t]rnl> msttcorefonts
[09:38] <bazhang> oops.
[09:38] <Hamra> thnx
[09:39] <sub[t]rnl> needles_: hrm, i guess i could try to replicate your situation with my box
[09:39] <dennister> let's try opening it again needles_ perhaps we can purge cfs from it
[09:39] <sub[t]rnl> needles_: what did you do, just install cfs, then break adept right?
[09:40] <needles_> cfs is where my gutsy install was hanging also
[09:40] <sub[t]rnl> ew, the cfs install?
[09:40] <sub[t]rnl> or download
[09:40] <caris_mere> I've upgraded to Gutsy...to do this one had to mark "pre-releases" in the repositories...should I now unmark that?
[09:40] <needles_> adept isnt working, but i dont know if thats why it isnt working
[09:40] <sub[t]rnl> caris_mere: yup, unless you want the bleeding edge
[09:41] <caris_mere> thanks
[09:41] <needles_> sub[t]rnl : the install
[09:41] <dennister> needles_: k, if i'm confused, perhaps ur confusing sub[t]rnl as well
[09:42] <needles_> lets review then
[09:42] <sub[t]rnl> i need a cig, ill catch up in a bit
[09:42] <dennister> isn't this what u did/mean: i installed cfs earlier today, then tried the gutsy upgrade, and the upgrade is stalling/hanging on the cfs?
[09:42] <needles_> i was going along my gutsy install perfectly fine, then during the installation it got up to 60%, then stopped on "setting up cfs"
[09:43] <needles_> dennister : yeah
[09:43] <dennister> ok, that's what i understood...when sub[t]rnl gets back from his cig break, we'll explain it the way i did...
[09:44] <dennister> in the meantime, let's see if you can open synaptic
[09:44] <needles_> i dont have it installed
[09:44] <dennister> get it...lots of pps swear it's more stable than adept
[09:44] <needles_> dennister : yeah
[09:45] <sub[t]rnl> k
[09:45] <needles_> but i cant do that because apt is messed up
[09:45] <dennister> sub[t]rnl: let me clarify needles_ history
[09:45] <sub[t]rnl> k
[09:45] <contrast83> dennister: Sorry, NetworkManager gave out on me. Did you make any progress with the upgrade?
[09:46] <dennister> he installed cfs earlier today...then he started the gutsy upgrade, and now it keeps hanging on the installation of the upgrade to cfs
[09:46] <sub[t]rnl> lets see
[09:46] <dennister> it's the gutsy upgrade that's begiing buggered up by the cfs upgrade, so we need to get rid of cfs somehow
[09:46] <contrast83> CFS?
[09:46] <sub[t]rnl> he needs to -finish- configure cfs then
[09:46] <dennister> contrast83: u know it?
[09:47] <sub[t]rnl> dpkg-reconfigure cfs
[09:47] <contrast83> I'm unfamiliar.
[09:47] <mads2> yay!
[09:47] <sub[t]rnl> needles try that
[09:47]  * mads2 enjoys a fully working ubuntu.
[09:47] <dennister> mads2: wonderful!
[09:47] <sub[t]rnl> grats mads
[09:47] <needles_> "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: cfs is broken or not fully installed"
[09:47] <mads2> however
[09:47] <mads2> now, the console is fucked.
[09:48] <dennister> contrast83: i did get my upgrade completely finished, thank you
[09:48] <mads2> the font is utterly big
[09:48] <mads2> then it goes black.
[09:48] <mads2> o_O
[09:48] <contrast83> Good for you. I would've given up after 12 hours. :-P
[09:48] <mads2> console as in alt + f1, f2 and so forth.
[09:48] <dennister> and now needles is having a unique-but-similar upgrade problem
[09:48] <needles_> sub[t]rnl : it says "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: cfs is broken or not fully installed"
[09:49] <dennister> mads2: what do u mean, font goes black?
[09:49] <sub[t]rnl> needles_: ok, sec
[09:49] <dennister> u mean the whole screen goes black?
[09:49] <bazhang> seems to be bug associated with it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cfs/+bug/146557
[09:49] <dennister> and how is console 'fucked'?
[09:49] <bazhang> cfs, that is.
[09:50] <stdin> dennister, mads2: watch the language in here
[09:50] <sub[t]rnl> needles_: sudo apt-get -install --reinstall cfs
[09:50] <dennister> hey, stdin :) another expert for needles_ here
[09:50] <bazhang> needles_: there is a known bug with cfs in post install process.
[09:50] <stdin> maybe when I have coffee...
[09:51] <dennister> heheheh...u just couldn't resist the admonishment, eh?
[09:51] <Hamra> isnt there any program to put in the taskbar, similar to the language bar of windows?
[09:51] <needles_> bazhang : i believe i have found it in full magnitude
[09:51] <bazhang> Hamra: for changing input language?
[09:52] <Hamra> yes
[09:52] <bazhang> scim
[09:52] <dennister> mads2: i've never had that much of a need for alt + f, f2, etc
[09:52] <sub[t]rnl> needles_ : sudo apt-get -f install
[09:52] <sub[t]rnl> for the win
[09:52] <Hamra> thnx a lot, i'll check it out
[09:52] <needles_> sub[t]rnl : "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[09:53] <bazhang> better than the Windows implementation, imo
[09:53] <sub[t]rnl> :/
[09:53] <sub[t]rnl> did you try both the --reinstall?
[09:53] <dennister> mads2: but you have a full working xorg? check the internet section in the menu for the program called pidgin
[09:53] <needles_> basically, cfs needs to be gotten rid of by somehow getting around the fact that i need to dpkg --configure -a
[09:54] <needles_> sub[t]rnl : yeah, same comment
[09:54] <dennister> the font size is probably because you just don't have nvidia or ati restricted drivers installed yet
[09:54] <needles_> ok, is there a way to run dpkg --configure -a but have it skip over cfs?
[09:54] <akrus`Away> hm
[09:54] <akrus`Away> how to set DNS list? :D
[09:54] <needles_> as in run through everything, but no including cfs
[09:55] <Lynoure> akrus`Away: if you don't use dhcp, it's as simple as editing /etc/resolv.conf
[09:55] <sub[t]rnl> what happened when you did sudo dpkg-reconfigure cfs
[09:55] <dennister> well, it's 5 am here, and i have to go to bed
[09:55] <bazhang> g'night
[09:56] <akrus`Away> Lynoure: I edited :x
[09:56] <akrus`Away> oh
[09:56] <akrus`Away> hm
[09:56] <dennister> needles_: i'm leaving you in the more-capable hands of sub[t]rnl, stdin, jucato...
[09:56] <needles_> sub[t]rnl : it says cfs is broke or not fully installed
[09:56] <akrus> thanks :)
[09:56] <Lynoure> akrus`Away: what does ":x" mean here?
[09:56] <dennister> night everyone
[09:56] <needles_> dennister : thanks for your efforts though, i appreciate it
[09:56] <akrus> that's a smiley :x
[09:56] <sub[t]rnl> night denn
[09:56] <Jucato> stdin's here. I need to work :P
[09:56] <dennister> np
[09:56] <Lynoure> akrus: yes, but "does not work for me" or "ok, did it" smiley? :)
[09:57] <stdin> Jucato: let me at least wake up first :p
[09:57] <sub[t]rnl> needles_: wait till stdin gets some coffee
[09:57] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[09:57] <needles_> sub[t]rnl : heh, alright
[09:57] <needles_> i have to be off to bed as well
[09:57] <needles_> its like 4 am
[09:57]  * Jucato shakes stdin vigorously... Wake UP!!!!
[09:57] <bazhang> :}
[09:57] <akrus> Lynoure: it works, just i remember 7.04 had problems with it :)
[09:57] <stdin> now I just feel nauseous
[09:57] <akrus> Lynoure: nvm it's working okay
[09:58] <Lynoure> akrus: ok, that's good :)
[09:58]  * Jucato shakes stdin more
[09:58]  * Jucato is off to buy some sanity...
[09:59]  * stdin offers Jucato a discount, and throws in empathy to sweeten the deal
[09:59] <sub[t]rnl> bring back extra guys
[09:59] <sub[t]rnl> cause we're running short
[10:00] <Lynoure> akrus: but if you use dhcp (dynamic ip), the dhcp will override it, so more steps are needed. But you aren't?
[10:00] <akrus> Static here :)
[10:00] <akrus> this knetworkconf is laggy :(
[10:05] <needles_> stdin : are you awake yet?
[10:05] <stdin> needles_: sort of
[10:05] <needles_> can i let you in on my problem?
[10:06] <stdin> as long as you don't expect me to read several hours of back scroll. yes
[10:06] <needles_> stdin : certainly
[10:07] <mads2> how can i see a list
[10:07] <mads2> of packages installed and removed.
[10:07] <mads2> in the default desktop version of the add/remove programs
[10:07] <mads2> i think i accidentaly removed a program by mistake
[10:07] <mads2> now i cant remember what it was called.
[10:07] <needles_> ok, i was upgrading from feisty to gutsy, and everything was going smooth untill i got to the installation part, it went all the way to 60%, then froze on "setting up cfs"
[10:08] <uhell> froze up? sounds stable :)
[10:08] <needles_> stdin : so through the guidance of sub[t]rnl and a few others, i closed it, and attempted to continue it in console
[10:09] <needles_> there was a lock on dpkg, i removed it and attempted to sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:09] <needles_> but that process just led on down the line to another hang up on "cfs" again in the console
[10:10] <stdin> needles_: does it just hang or just fail?
[10:10] <needles_> stdin : and i cant remove purge that package, unless i can configure
[10:10] <needles_> it just hangs
[10:11] <stdin> ok, time to "hack" it to let you remove it.
[10:11] <needles_> stdin : how would i do that?
[10:12] <needles_> is there a way to pdkg --configure -a, and have it skip of cfs in the process
[10:13] <stdin> needles_: try: "echo exit | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/adept-common.p*"
[10:13] <needles_> with the atertisk included?
[10:13] <stdin> yes
[10:14] <stdin> erm, hold on
[10:14] <stdin>  "echo exit | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/cifs.p*"
[10:14] <stdin> not adept :p
[10:14]  * stdin drinks more coffee
[10:14] <stdin> cifs is wrong too....
[10:15] <stdin> last time, I promise it's right: "echo exit | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/cfs.p*"
[10:15] <needles_> stdin : ok, it said exit
[10:15]  * Jucato prepares stdin a galon of pure, unadulterated, unsweetened, coffee.... powder
[10:16] <needles_> stdin : what did that do?
[10:16]  * stdin eats the powder with a desert spoon
[10:16] <stdin> needles_: something you shouldn't normally do, it made the script that run before and after install/removal do nothing
[10:17] <stdin> needles_: try removing the package now, then you should complete the upgrade. after that I'll see if I can find the real problem with it
[10:17] <needles_> stdin : so what would i do now? sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[10:17] <needles_> stdin : alright
[10:17] <stdin> you may have to run dpkg before you remove it, but try removing it first
[10:18] <needles_> stdin : it wont let me remove it
[10:18] <needles_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:18] <stdin> yep, run that command first then
[10:18] <needles_> same as its told me before
[10:18] <needles_> ok
[10:19] <needles_> its stalled on "setting up cfs..."
[10:19] <needles_> again
[10:19] <qrawl> How do I get rid of  <mount point>  that I accidentally created in my Home folder
[10:20] <qrawl> I want to remove that
[10:20] <qrawl> its linked to my other HD
[10:20] <stdin> needles_: did you run the last command I said "echo exit | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/cfs.p*" ?
[10:20] <needles_> stdin : yeah
[10:20] <stdin> qrawl: you have to unmount it, then you can remove the directory
[10:20] <needles_> verbatim
[10:21] <stdin> needles_: post /var/lib/dpkg/info/cfs.postinst to pastebin
[10:21] <qrawl> stdin: I cant.  I went to the Disks management, and that doesnt exist.  I believe I edited that to point to a diff folder, and it never got rid of the old one
[10:22] <qrawl> stdin, at least it's not showing up in the System panel for disks
[10:22] <stdin> qrawl: if there's nothing mounted there, then you should be able to delete the directory
[10:23] <qrawl> stdin, it doesnt look like a shortcut
[10:23] <needles_> stdin : http://pastebin.com/d64a62f2a
[10:23] <qrawl> stdin, but I'll log on as root and try deleting it
[10:23] <qrawl> I hope it doesnt really delete it
[10:24] <qrawl> ugh
[10:24] <qrawl> it wants to delete the real files
[10:25] <muchanic> qrawl: jump into konsole and manually umount it
[10:25] <stdin> needles_: ok, press Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu kate /var/lib/dpkg/info/cfs.postinst" then put "set -x" under the line with "set -e"
[10:26] <stdin> needles_: then save and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" again
[10:26] <qrawl> muchanic, ok, whats the command
[10:27] <muchanic> sudo umount /home/user/dir
[10:27] <qrawl> ty
[10:28] <qrawl> its still there
[10:28] <muchanic> the files, or the directory?
[10:28] <qrawl> the directory
[10:28] <qrawl> and the files inside
[10:28] <qrawl> which are on the other HD
[10:29] <qrawl> ok nm.  the folder is just there, but it's empty now, becasue it's unmounted
[10:29] <qrawl> I'll delete it in root
[10:29] <needles_> stdin : ok, i complied, and there was a bit of output, but it seems to be still stalled on cfs
[10:29] <stdin> qrawl: you don't need to be root to delete it
[10:29] <stdin> needles_: post the output to pastebin then
[10:29] <qrawl> yes I did
[10:30] <qrawl> It had to be root
[10:30] <qrawl> anyway, thanks.  I got rid of it
[10:30] <needles_> stdin : http://pastebin.com/d6989c549
[10:30] <needles_> is what it shows
[10:31] <MaDiNfO_> hi all, does anyone knows if there is any issue on xine lib on 7.10 ? lots of people complaning that there is some interlaction on kaffeine or other xine based players...
[10:33] <stdin> needles_: does "test -d /var/cfs ; echo $?" show "0" ?
[10:34] <SlimG2> Is there another KDE-based web-browser other than Konqueror ?
[10:34] <needles_> stdin : it doesnt do anything
[10:35] <stdin> needles_: anything? did you put it exactly as shown?
[10:35] <needles_> yeah
[10:35] <stdin> does it just return you to a prompt?
[10:36] <needles_> stdin : no, it doesnt even do that
[10:36] <needles_> it just puts a blank line
[10:36] <needles_> and leaves it there
[10:36] <stdin> needles_: ok, press Ctrl-C, then do "ls -l /var" and post the output to pastebin
[10:37] <barbadillo_> hi all
[10:38] <barbadillo_> my kde does not start anymore after a dist-upgrade
[10:38] <needles_> stdin : its just a blank line again, no output
[10:38] <sabgenton> anyone know where to find info on the kio cgi slave
[10:38] <needles_> stdin : keep in mind im on a 60% upgraded to gutsy system, that was cancelled then
[10:39] <stdin> needles_: that's not good, looks like your filesystem is bad. you should check the filesystem
[10:40] <needles_> stdin : yeah, i know
[10:40] <needles_> stdin : im thinking about throwing in the towel now
[10:40] <needles_> ive been on this for that past few hours, and its almost 5 am, and i ahve school at 11
[10:41] <needles_> ill just burn my important files off to a dvd, and then reinstall from a livecd
[10:41] <stdin> needles_: run "sudo shutdown -F -r now" (that will immediately shutdown and restart the system to check it)
[10:41] <needles_> stdin : what if it doesnt reboot?
[10:41] <stdin> needles_: can't see why it wouldn't
[10:42] <needles_> alright, ill give it a try
[10:42] <needles_> brb
[10:42] <stdin> it'll take a while to run
[10:47] <barbadillo_> upgrading to gutsy broke my kde!!!!
[10:54] <cptnspoon> Can anyone help me get my nvidia card working under Gutsy? I've been going round in circles for days trying to get this figured out...
[10:59] <Alarm> cptnspoon, why not installing nvidia from nvidia installer ?
[10:59] <Alarm> much easier work
[10:59] <vbgunz> I heard it was possible to install Firefox and Thunderbird without any gnome dependencies. is this true? how can I find out more?
[10:59] <Alarm> all those packages that needed to be downloaded through apt just confuse me...
[11:00] <Alarm> cptnspoon, what doesnt work exactly ?
[11:00] <Jucato> vbgunz: Firefox doesn't depend on GNOME. it depends on GTK though
[11:00] <Alarm> vbgunz,  if u want the feel of kde, install qt-engine
[11:00] <Jucato> Alarm: that's already installed by default
[11:01] <Jucato> actually gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[11:01] <vbgunz> Jucato: oh had to say to you, thanks for recommending kget. I knew of wget but kget just saved my ass too on a big file... much better than konqueror by itself :)
[11:01] <Alarm> ehmm, dont know it. i am not using kubuntu :)
[11:01] <vbgunz> Jucato: thanks!
[11:01] <Jucato> Alarm: er.. ok...
[11:01] <Jucato> (what are you using then?)
[11:01] <vbgunz> Alarm: not really looking for the feel :)
[11:01] <Alarm> vbgunz,  as much i did hear u use firefox . why not adding the extension DownThemAll ? no need to load extra apps
[11:02] <Alarm> Jucato,  debian stable etch for several months now testing
[11:02] <Jucato> I see
[11:02] <vbgunz> Alarm: sorry, I don't wish to use Firefox as my primary browser. I wish to use it for development purposes only. e.g., it has Firebug :)
[11:02] <Alarm> kubuntu indeed has all the latest versions , but not so tested. many times things just crashed . not something that i like
[11:02] <Jucato> (technically, when you use a Firefox extension, you are basically loading the equivalent of a small app as well, or at least taking up as much resources)
[11:03] <Alarm> i am of the opinion , old ? does it work ? keep it :)
[11:03] <Alarm> ohh ok then
[11:03] <Jucato> (then you should have stuck to stable?)
[11:03] <Alarm> Jucato,  for sure downthemall doesnt take as much memory as kget
[11:03] <Alarm> although kget is a good application for sure
[11:04] <Jucato> quite :)
[11:04] <GuHHH>  ive configured squid, its waiting for requests on my server, but my client cant connect outside my network, it can resolve hostnames, but cant ping... i can only reach my server, not whats behind it... any help?
[11:04] <Jucato> and it doesn't require Konqueror to be running while downloading
[11:04] <Alarm> wanted to check out whats on testing . but still i kept my old kernel .
[11:04] <Jucato> kerne;
[11:04] <Jucato> kernels aren't really much of a problem :)
[11:04] <Alarm> 2.6.18-5 at the moment
[11:04] <vbgunz> Alarm: I don't need konqueror to use kget which is nice too :)
[11:04] <rc-1> hi, i bought a dell laptop, and just upgraded it to gutsy, and said it worked but when it reboots x doesnt start
[11:05] <vbgunz> rc-1: what do you see?
[11:05] <rc-1> vbgunz: crap battery is dead let me get charger
[11:05] <Alarm> well, 2.6.22 is supposed to work better, but this makes my system worse :) it finds some ps/2 interrupts and softirq wakes up taking up my cpu usage. i cant fix it , so i prefered staying back in 2.6.18 till i will figure out how
[11:06] <rc-1> pretty much the screen you get when you press controlaltf1
[11:06] <vbgunz> rc-1: so you see a login screen but nothing like a blinking cursor all by itself?
[11:06] <ubuntu> hi
[11:07] <ubuntu> so... I just installed the proprietary ati graphics driver and restarted and now x won't start
[11:07] <ubuntu> or kde
[11:07] <ubuntu> any ideas?
[11:07] <vbgunz> rc-1: I had the same experience but I had a blinking cursor on all terminals and on X screen... horrible experience
[11:07] <rc-1> vbgunz: ya
[11:07] <ubuntu> (gusty user)
[11:07] <rc-1> i think dell locked it so you couldnt change os or something
[11:07] <vbgunz> rc-1: ya what? a login box or a blinking cursor?
[11:07] <rc-1> just the login thing
[11:08] <rc-1> normal command prompt
[11:08] <vbgunz> rc-1: try logging in and then try 'startx'
[11:08] <vbgunz> see what happens
[11:08] <ubuntu> yea thats what I did
[11:08] <ubuntu> black screen
[11:08] <ubuntu> i'm on the livecd now ><
[11:09] <vbgunz> rc-1: what graphics card do you have?
[11:09] <vbgunz> that may have something to do with it
[11:09] <ubuntu> ati 9800
[11:09] <ubuntu> radeon
[11:09] <ubuntu> possibly
[11:09] <Mekzholan> I set up my system by installing ubuntu and got the kde packages then, so I've got an kubuntu system. But which gnome-packages do I have to delete now, to have an clean, leight weight kubuntu?
[11:09] <ubuntu> is there any way to revert to the normal driver for the purposes of unbreaking my os?
[11:09] <Alarm> gdm , gnomebase for sure
[11:09] <Jucato> Mekzholan: try this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:10] <ubuntu> frome the livecd?
[11:10] <rc-1> vbgunz: ah sorry cant find the power cable ill worry about it later
[11:10] <vbgunz> ubuntu, do you know how to use a terminal based editor like vi, vim or nano?
[11:10] <rc-1> the default 1420n one
[11:10] <ubuntu> hm never tried nano
[11:11] <Alarm> ubuntu, its time to :)
[11:11] <vbgunz> ubuntu: make a copy of this file /etc/X11/corg.conf like this: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[11:11] <ubuntu> what do I need to change?
[11:11] <Alarm> ubuntu, depends the error xorg shows you
[11:11] <rc-1> cp your xorg.conf.backup (or whatever) to xorg.conf
[11:11] <vbgunz> not corg.conf ... sorry, xorg.conf
[11:11] <Alarm> check on /var/log/Xorg.log , or Xorg.0.log the latest one
[11:12] <ubuntu> I can probably just mount the disk and look at it in kate
[11:12] <Alarm> there will be shown whats wrong with xorg and kde wont start
[11:12] <ubuntu> sec
[11:12] <Alarm> ubuntu why to make ur life more difficult ?
[11:12] <Alarm> nano /file/you/want/to/open
[11:12] <Mekzholan> Jucato: tnx!
[11:12] <ubuntu> kk :-)
[11:13] <julius> is 7.10 very buggy for anyone?
[11:13] <julius> ive allready had dolphin crash once
[11:14] <julius> and kaffiene cant play videos (ive installed the ubuntu-restricted-extra's e.t.c. as per guides)
[11:14] <dojero> I haven't had Dolphin crash, and all my videos play on Kaffeine...were these things working for you in 7.04?
[11:15] <ubuntu> do you know how to get to my linux partition from the livecd?
[11:15] <ubuntu> all i can see in terminal is the ramdisk
[11:15] <dojero> ubuntu, just look in the storage media in a file manager (konqueror or dolphin)
[11:16] <vbgunz> ubuntu, reboot into your hard disk
[11:16] <Alarm> ubuntu thought you got problems loading X , why the need of livecd ?
[11:16] <vbgunz> ubuntu doing it from live disk aint really going to help you much..
[11:17] <rc-1> julius: dolphin doesnt crash, but whenever i close it it gives a "cannot write bookmarks file" error.  a few other small bugs too.  and movies work fine (in kaffiene but i use mplayer)
[11:17] <ubuntu> ok possibly brb
[11:17] <Alarm> Ubukubu,
[11:17] <Alarm> ubuntu
[11:17]  * vbgunz cannot wait for vlc on qt goodness :)
[11:17] <Alarm> install bitchx
[11:17] <Alarm> and join the channel from bitchx to work and be able to get also help from here
[11:19] <ubuntu> aah ok that'll help
[11:23] <dojero> Is there a way to operate another PC over the Internet?  Krdc and Krfb seem only for local networks.
[11:23] <cptnspoon> hi
[11:25] <ubuntu> hm yes it gets stuck while loading the fglrx driver
[11:25] <ubuntu> (II) fglrx(0): POWERplay not supported on this hardware
[11:26] <ubuntu> mind if i pastebin this?
[11:27] <ubuntu> http://www.pastebin.ca/746579
[11:27] <ubuntu> ^ log
[11:28] <Alarm> paste also xorg.conf please
[11:29] <Alarm> ubuntu, have you tried to reconfigure xserver ?
[11:30] <ubuntu> http://www.pastebin.ca/746584
[11:30] <julie> please french site
[11:31] <Jucato> !fr | julie
[11:31] <ubotu> julie: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:31] <ubuntu> yea IDK what any of these vars in the config file are
[11:31] <ubuntu> xorg.conf needs manual configuration?
[11:31] <Alarm> you could do it also manualy
[11:31] <Jucato> !xconfig | ubuntu
[11:31] <ubotu> ubuntu: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[11:32] <Alarm> and it will create a new xorg.con , back up your old one first
[11:32] <curi0> Alright, I have a USB Hard Drive which I can boot from, however, there are already partitions and data on the drive. Should I use partition magic to resize and create 4 partitions: partition 1 for FAT16 syslinux, ubuntu gutsy.iso, vm file, and init file; partition 2 unallocated for ext3; partition 3 unallocated for swap? Can't forget to mention that I'm dual booting XP and Vista with EASY BCD.
[11:33] <Alarm> curi0, if there are allready partitions why to create new ones ?
[11:34] <WaltzingAlong> dojero: krdc and krfb work over the internet too (afterall the internet is just a big network - or network of several networks); may i suggest openvpn, openssh, and freenx or any of the vnc servers/clients
[11:35] <ubuntu> ty so much!! i'll give it a try, brb
[11:36] <Alarm> although i see dublicates in ur xorg. dont know if that matters
[11:36] <dojero> WaltzingAlong: if krdc and krfb work on the internet, then why do I need the others you suggest?
[11:36] <Alarm> like Section "device" #
[11:36] <ubuntu> it was all automaticly done by the restricted driver manager in 7.10
[11:37] <ubuntu> so its kinda creepy that it borked all of a sudden
[11:37] <WaltzingAlong> i suppose if you understood that you would already know why you thought krdc did not work over the internet; dojero
[11:37] <fregl> where do I put commands I want run during/after boot?
[11:37] <Alarm> ubuntu,  keep a backup of xorg.conf , and do an xserver reconfiguration
[11:37] <ubuntu> kk
[11:37] <WaltzingAlong> dojero: it is quite likely that between your server/client and the other side client/server there are firewalls and the like, so incoming connections would be blocked by default
[11:37] <ubuntu_> yo
[11:38] <Alarm> if this wont solve your problem you still recover back your xorg.conf back
[11:38] <curi0> Alright, I have a USB Hard Drive which I can boot from, however, there are already partitions and data on the drive. Should I use partition magic to resize and create 4 partitions: partition 1 for FAT16 syslinux, ubuntu gutsy.iso, vm file, and init file; partition 2 unallocated for ext3; partition 3 unallocated for swap? Can't forget to mention that I'm dual booting XP and Vista with EASY BCD.
[11:38] <WaltzingAlong> curi0: thanks for repeating. perhaps read the replies which were already stated?
[11:38] <ubuntu_> I'm master of linux yeah !! from Poland !
[11:38] <dojero> WaltzingAlong: Okay.  So if I want to access a computer over the net, then both have to have the vnc software.
[11:38] <curi0> I didn't think you all saw my text because I was not registered
[11:38] <WaltzingAlong> dojero: one needs the server, the other the client.
[11:39] <curi0> Sorry about that!
[11:39] <WaltzingAlong> curi0: not registered means cannot send private messages but can send to the channel
[11:39] <curi0> Sitting in the ubuntu channel where nobody answers my question is amazing
[11:39] <jussi01> How do you change which device the system outputs sound to? I want the sound to came through my USB headset, not my laptop speakers.
[11:39] <ubuntu_> where are logs
[11:39] <ubuntu_> ?
[11:39] <dojero> WaltzingAlong: Got it...so the one I'm trying to access is the server (since I'm going to be operating that PC remotely)...right?
[11:39] <ubuntu_> where are logs files?
[11:39] <WaltzingAlong> curi0: what do you expect? what you should do? who decides that?
[11:39] <Alarm> ubuntu, /var/log
[11:40] <curi0> Alarm: There are windows partitions
[11:40] <WaltzingAlong> dojero: right and on the server side, the firewalls would need to be configured to allow incoming connections to the vnc server port, usually 5900
[11:40] <WaltzingAlong> curi0: you can format those partitions as you like
[11:40] <Alarm> installing kubuntu on it, it will ask you to format them to ext3 or whatever you would like them to
[11:40] <curi0> I have data on those partitions
[11:40] <dojero> WaltzingAlong: Thank you...I understand (I think).
[11:40] <curi0> I'm trying to find out if my procedure is right?
[11:40] <Alarm> you dont need to resize them if the size of them is ok . if i remember well during the installation you can resize them as well
[11:41] <ubuntu_> logs with used commends
[11:41] <ubuntu_> logs with used commands
[11:41] <WaltzingAlong> dojero: and on the local network the firewall would likely not exist and therefore not be blocking incoming traffic
[11:41] <ubuntu_> ?
[11:41] <Alarm> i dont know how safe it is to change fs on the HD with data on it and without formating it.
[11:41] <jussi01> !repeat | ubuntu_:
[11:41] <ubotu> ubuntu_:: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:41] <curi0> Don't you haev to have 3 partitions to install any linux on a dual boot system?
[11:41] <GuHHH> ive configured squid, its waiting for requests on my server, but my client cant connect outside my network, it can resolve hostnames, but cant ping... i can only reach my server, not whats behind it... any help? even if i disable squid, i cant ping internet, just resolve names (from client)
[11:41] <dojero> WaltzingAlong: Actually, there aren't firewalls on either end...I'm trying to access my mother's computer...she wouldn't have a clue about firewalls.
[11:41] <Alarm> ubuntu, /home/user/.bash_history
[11:42] <WaltzingAlong> Alarm: changing the filesystem would/should format it
[11:42] <curi0> For Linux sake yes
[11:42] <WaltzingAlong> dojero: but her dsl/cable router/gateway would
[11:42] <curi0> and Windows sake
[11:42] <Alarm> curi0,  copy the files on an other storage device , and resize them , format them without any risk if you dont know well what you are doing
[11:43] <dojero> WaltzingAlong: Okay...so the chances are slim I can pull this off, since I'd have to walk her through the process of accessing her cable router and opening the port.
[11:43] <curi0> Let me rephrase! I'm going to be booting from my USB hard drive to install ubuntu to local partitions.
[11:43] <curi0> Alarm: I know what i'm doing, i'm just trying to figure out if my procedure is correct.
[11:43] <Alarm> ohh, you got the iso image on the usb storage and u want to do the installation from that iso ?
[11:44] <dojero> WaltzingAlong: But at least I understand and can try to make those changes to her system when I'm there.
[11:44] <ubuntu_> THANK YOU
[11:44] <curi0> Alarm: Yes, because I'm getting Buffer I/O errors on HDC
[11:44] <WaltzingAlong> dojero: right. which was my suggestion about ssh because it may be better to ssh into her computer then from there, once connected to it via ssh, run x11vnc to access her screen then a vnc viewer on the localhost to view that screen on your end. openvpn because you can create a vpn so she need not configure anything nor open any ports and all traffic on the vpn is encrypted
[11:45] <Alarm> you wont be able to do it that way . you got to extract the files and make it bootable. there is also a procedure to do to make the usb boot and run the installer
[11:45] <curi0> So, i'm planning on taking the syslinux route and configuring my USB hard drive to boot the ISO directly.
[11:45] <Alarm> would be much easier to burn it on a dvd
[11:45] <curi0> Can't if my dvd isn't reading properly
[11:45] <Alarm> curi0,  when i worked a bit with slax and usb flash , it wasnt just to have the iso on the drive, but more than that
[11:45] <curi0> That's why I have to take a different step because my DVD seems to be broken
[11:45] <Alarm> i see
[11:45] <dojero> WaltzingAlong: I'm slow to understand, but I'm getting better.  Thanks.  So I can just use Putty to get to her PC and then go from there?
[11:46] <Alarm> hold on. i have a link dont know how much this will help
[11:46] <curi0> I'm just using the USB hard drive as a CDROM that's all
[11:46] <curi0> Alarm: I've found many links regarding this matter.
[11:46] <Alarm> http://damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_to_a_USB_Flash_Drive
[11:46] <WaltzingAlong> dojero: you could. then you need only one part, encrypt all of the traffic (sending of vnc passwords as well) and so on
[11:46] <Alarm> ok its not a usb flash drive but its still how to boot from a usb and playing with the iso
[11:46] <curi0> See the link that you'er posting is total opposite of my actions
[11:47] <curi0> Oh alright
[11:47] <curi0> gotcha!
[11:47] <curi0> You're on the same page now :)
[11:47] <Alarm> curi0, you will defenetely will have to change the mbr of the drive
[11:47] <WaltzingAlong> dojero: if you have openvpn running already she could then use krfb to send the invite to you, you could access it over the vpn.
[11:47] <curi0> Yes I know that's where my problems will come in
[11:47] <Alarm> curi0, check also that: http://www.slax.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6846&sid=40bde0cfe4142649ac31949b54f26267
[11:48] <curi0> Because i'll have to boot Vista and do the command to switch the mbr
[11:48] <curi0> and then add linux bootloader to easy bcd
[11:48] <dojero> WaltzingAlong: That may even be better.  Thank you again for this help...I'll probably try tomorrow.
[11:49] <WaltzingAlong> dojero: i admin several computers and am presently at least 7 timezones away from most of them. ssh over openvpn is how i get into most
[11:49] <dojero> WaltingAlong: I'm in Italy and she's in US, so we're a couple of time zones apart, anyway.
[11:50] <Alarm> curi0, one more: http://www.linux.com/articles/46267 , just use ext type instead of f16 or f32
[11:50] <curi0> Alarm: you know what my issue probably is!
[11:50] <curi0> I downloaded the ubuntu iso from torrents
[11:50] <Alarm> that your dvd isnt working
[11:50] <curi0> Let me try downloading it directly from ubuntu
[11:51] <Alarm> and you cant install ubuntu from a dvd so you want to run the installer from the external hd
[11:51] <curi0> and let's see if I get Buffer I/O errors
[11:51] <curi0> That's what I wanted to do at first but let me try downloading a copy directly from ubuntu
[11:51] <curi0> I should've done that from the beginning, but, now i've learned my lesson!
[11:52] <Alarm> btw, is there a netinstall for kubuntu ?
[11:52] <WaltzingAlong> curi0: torrent can tell you if you have the exact same bit for bit as is in the torrent; have your client check the iso for integrity
[11:52] <Alarm> curi0, check hash
[11:53] <curi0> check the hash against the website hash?
[11:53] <Alarm> although torrents rarely fail. if a package wasnt succesfuly download correctly, it downloads it again
[11:53] <curi0> what if the whole iso from the torrent site just happened to be corrupt?
[11:53] <Alarm> yeap
[11:53] <Alarm> if you downloaded it from a normal mirror i doubt it
[11:53] <WaltzingAlong> curi0: then everyone else downloading the same torrent would have (had) corrupt iso files
[11:54] <vbgunz> I am looking for a dictionary that can merge itself with my context menu. e.g., if I highlight a word in any document, I can right click and get it's definition. does anything like this exists? also, preferably it would be great if it worked offline
[11:54] <skyion> curi0, >> do a md5sum on the file and check the original
[11:55] <curi0> I'm on Windows :(
[11:55] <skyion> oh :|
[11:55] <Alarm> skyion, there are also applications for windows that do that
[11:55] <WaltzingAlong> curi0: md5sum is also a win32
[11:55] <curi0> found a utility
[11:55] <curi0> !
[11:55] <skyion> kewl ;)
[11:56] <vbgunz> curi0: on Windows, my favorite md5sum checker along with a bunch of others was 'hashtab'
[11:56] <roguejedix> Might I reccomend wxChecksums
[11:57] <Alarm> sha1sum.exe 20kb big and does its job
[11:57] <Alarm> no need for installation or something
[11:57] <curi0> Found this need little proggy called md5check
[11:57] <curi0> Checking my iso right now
[11:57] <skyion> kewl
[11:57] <Alarm> curi0, that would do
[11:58] <contrast83> Somewhat of an odd question - How clean is Control+Alt+Backspace? i.e., If you have a bunch of programs running and you press that, do those programs cleanly exit or are they forcefully killed?
[11:58] <WaltzingAlong> curi0: you may find it helpful to have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnuWin32 installed on your ms windows "operating system", especially after putzing with a gnu/linux-based distro for any amount of time
[11:58] <curi0> My MD5 Hash: f4ed141eebd2b3c11ada9dac1f58c742 against isohunt.com info_hash: e02e5e117a5a9080d552a11fa675de868a05fe71
[11:58] <WaltzingAlong> contrast83: killed i think
[11:58] <roguejedix> Don't torrents use md4?
[11:59] <contrast83> That's what I was thinking. Thanks.
[12:03] <vbgunz> contrast83: murdered... exit them then do that is possible
[12:03] <Minnozz> how can I set up a network bridge from eth1 to my bluetooth dongle, so I can access the my internet connection with my mobile phone?
[12:03] <vbgunz> /is/if/
[12:04] <vbgunz> I think the 'send to system tray option' in the menu editor is broken. I am trying to send kdict to the system tray but it never goes :/
[12:06] <contrast83> vbgunz: Cool, thanks. Do you know where I might find some documentation on that? Google's not helping... Sorry, just trying to prove someone wrong. :-)
[12:06] <skiffx> guys if IM installing ubuntu onto scsi12 (0,0,0) (sdh) then the bootloader should still go on (hd0) or something else?
[12:06] <Alarm> scsi ? they still exist ? :)
[12:07] <USMarine> sata2 ftw
[12:07] <skiffx> no its all sata
[12:07] <skiffx> it sees it as scsi though
[12:07] <vbgunz> heh, no, but been told plenty of times by several different users. and you can prove it to yourself with applications that save there state on a clean exit like kchmviewer or kpdf I believe. when you exit them cleanly, they restart where they exited. when you ctrl+alt+backspace, they start from the last clean exit
[12:08] <Alarm> maybe the as sda device
[12:08] <Alarm> not hd
[12:08] <curi0> Thank You, everyone for your assistance, i'll try this iso directly from ubuntu and if that doesn't work than i'll boot the iso indirectly from my usb hard drive.
[12:08] <curi0> Again, I appreciate all you've guys helped out with!
[12:08] <curi0> Thank You
[12:08] <Alarm> do an fdisk -l to check out ur partition
[12:08] <skiffx> Alarm, it saw it as sdh
[12:08] <contrast83> vbgunz: Cool, that's enough for me. Thanks much. :-)
[12:08] <skiffx> so now thebootloader goes
[12:08] <vbgunz> np :)
[12:09] <skiffx> onto hd0 or hd8?
[12:09] <Alarm> on the partition that is bootable
[12:09] <USMarine> anyone seen a peeing plane before? http://www.metacafe.com/watch/881033/amazing_scene/
[12:09] <Alarm> wheck which one is
[12:09] <Alarm> wheck -> check
[12:10] <skiffx> sdh is the bootable one with windows
[12:10] <skiffx> so what do I specify in (hd*) ?
[12:10] <Alarm> shouldnt it have a number, just asking. never saw that sdh
[12:11] <Alarm> i am not risking it to tell you bullshit as i am not so familiar with that sdh .
[12:11] <skiffx> Alarm, sdh is the bootable drive
[12:11] <Alarm> well still i am wondering why there is no number
[12:11] <skiffx> sdh is just sda-h
[12:11] <skiffx> err
[12:11] <Alarm> then do install it on sdh
[12:11] <skiffx> well sdh is separated into 3 more partitions
[12:11] <Alarm> if -h- stands for a number
[12:11] <Alarm> :)
[12:11] <Alarm> sdh1, sdh2, sdh3 ?
[12:12] <skiffx> swap is sdh3 and ext3 / is sdh2
[12:12] <skiffx> win is sdh1
[12:13] <Alarm> then i am 99% sure that u need to install it on sdh1 , check if there is also a "*" for boot on that sdh1
[12:13] <Alarm> if you put the grub on a non bootable partition u wont see grub runing
[12:14] <cperrin88> Hey, I'm searching for a way to use compiz with my ATI card
[12:14] <skiffx> Alarm, ty
[12:14] <WaltzingAlong> !compiz | cperrin88
[12:14] <ubotu> cperrin88: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:15] <Alarm> reboot and tell me if it was that :P
[12:16] <cperrin88> WaltzingAlong: this doesn't work. It says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41813/
[12:16] <Alarm> ubuntu christian . what distro release is that now ? u log into gnome and see a big cross or what ?
[12:16] <skiffx> lol
[12:17] <Alarm> instead of apt-get install package , jesus please install package
[12:17] <Alarm> heee
[12:17] <Alarm> is there any distro for othomans as well ?
[12:17] <WaltzingAlong> followed by 'i promise i will never <insert sin> again
[12:17] <Alarm> hehehe WaltzingAlong
[12:17] <cperrin88> Alarm: there is a Ubuntu Satanic edition repository
[12:18] <Alarm> cool, i will try to add it into my christian distro then see what happens
[12:18] <arkygeek> hihi
[12:18] <Alarm> package conflicts ? :)
[12:18] <arkygeek> fyi: if you are running an iMac 24 and get no sound in gutsy, do this:  sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic    then reboot.
[12:18] <cperrin88> Alarm: On the webpage they say you should use a fresh isntalled Christian edition to use this repostitories  :D
[12:19] <Alarm> you should use a god blessed partition !
[12:20] <surface> is there a way to ask knetworkmanager remember the wpa password, instead of keep asking everytime i login?
[12:21] <arkygeek> surface - i was wondering that too...
[12:21] <surface> the kwallet is kind of useless, maybe i donno how to use it
[12:22] <Delphinus> surface: have you tried disabling the walley
[12:22] <Delphinus> wallet (
[12:22] <Yammeh> Is there anything to do to try and make kubuntu more stable? If I leave it on more than 24 hours it starts to really slow down when switching applications and when I start typing and stuff
[12:22] <werty> do you know how to configure dc++?
[12:23] <Delphinus> Yammeh: what does free -m show?
[12:23]  * Alarm is going to check the french fries...
[12:23] <WaltzingAlong> Yammeh: are you using compiz-fusion? or xserver-xgl?
[12:23] <surface> Delphinus: disable? no, it prompts me when first login
[12:23] <Yammeh> Not using either WaltzingAlong
[12:23] <Delphinus> surface: run kwalletmanager and it should appear in systray beside time
[12:23] <surface> why i type my wpa password in, i tot kwallet kind of remember it for me
[12:24] <Delphinus> go into options and disable it
[12:24] <Yammeh> lol, it's owning my ram, Delphinus
[12:24] <Yammeh> For no reason... I've only got like 3 applications loaded
[12:24] <Delphinus> Yammeh: how much ram you have?
[12:24] <Yammeh> 2gb
[12:24] <_luke_> hey guys - I'm looking for a way to take an AVI which was taken off Youtube and make it playable on a stock windows install for a presentation... Currently it plays fine in Linux but under windows it plays audio and no video
[12:24] <WaltzingAlong> Yammeh: generally you want your ram used as much as possible
[12:24] <_luke_> I think it has a custom header which confuses WMP... any idea how to remove it under Linux?
[12:24] <Yammeh> Yes, but now to the point where it lags my pc
[12:25] <WaltzingAlong> _luke_: use vlc on ms windows? reencode the video with mencoder
[12:25] <Delphinus> Yammeh: is it used or cached?
[12:25] <WaltzingAlong> Yammeh: using lots of ram does not lag your pc
[12:25] <Delphinus> if its cached thats fine
[12:25] <Delphinus> how much swap is used?
[12:25] <WaltzingAlong> Yammeh: check kinfocenter for a nice picture about it
[12:25] <_luke_> WaltzingAlong: Can't change the windows install unfortunately... I tried a few times with mencoder but I can't get a file which will play with video under windows
[12:25] <Yammeh> It says it's used
[12:26] <WaltzingAlong> _luke_: so the answer is to try again until you do. man mencoder. pick the video codec that comes with ms windows
[12:26] <Yammeh> According to kinfocenter, 38% is disk cached..
[12:26] <WaltzingAlong> though that really does not seem like an answer
[12:26] <Delphinus> Yammeh: how much swap is used
[12:27] <Yammeh> 2%
[12:27] <WaltzingAlong> Yammeh: 2GB ram here; presently 50MB free; then 68% disk cache; 3% swap used; so it is not a swap issue in your case
[12:27] <Delphinus> Yammeh: if you run top, whats the load average?
[12:27] <azuk> _luke_, I've converted avi files created with my camera with mplayer's option -ffourcc DX50 in order to make them playable on Windows
[12:28] <WaltzingAlong> Yammeh: you can also see that with uptime
[12:28] <Yammeh> which is the average? There are 3 numbers
[12:28] <Delphinus> Yammeh: give us all 3
[12:28] <WaltzingAlong> they all are; different times
[12:29] <Yammeh> load average: 0.13, 0.23, 0.33
[12:29] <Yammeh> It's not the loading of new applications that's the issue, it's lag in the ones that are loaded
[12:30] <_luke_> WaltzingAlong: thanks - messing with different options
[12:30] <_luke_> azuk: Thanks - I'll give it a try
[12:33] <WaltzingAlong> Yammeh: and those numbers are not high by any means
[12:33] <Yammeh> It's not the loading of applications that's the problem, it's the freezing when I alt tab or try to type
[12:34] <Delphinus> not sure Yammeh, did you upgrade or clean install?
[12:34] <Yammeh> I tried to upgrade and it failed, so I did a clean install
[12:35] <Delphinus> sorry cant help ya.. past midnight here and i got work tomorow.. good luck!
[12:35] <Yammeh> Ok, thanks
[12:39] <smorg> Alarm: <- guy with xserver problems
[12:39] <smorg> all better, gracias!
[12:40] <Alarm> huh ?
[12:40] <smorg> you told me to reconfigure xorg.conf
[12:40] <smorg> seems to have reverted to the default drivers
[12:40] <Amrius> hi there
[12:49] <dieter_> ahoi
[12:50] <dieter_> wieso gibts keine deutsche übersetzung für kdevelop
[12:50] <dieter_> und wie bekomm ich die?
[12:50] <_luke_> Got it working for anyone interested... had to convert to stock mpg using ffmpeg -i <file> <file>.mpg
[12:50] <flake> FYI      7.10 + qw:et client = coolness, sad thing is i'm running it on older hardware
[12:50] <dieter_> oh shit sorry this is the global channel:)
[12:51] <_luke_> flake: is the QWET full version out for for Linux yet? Or just the demo?
[12:51] <flake> full
[12:51] <dieter_> how do i get german translations for kdevelop?
[12:51] <_luke_> awesome... I purchased the game for windows... might have to look to see whether I can download it
[12:51] <_luke_> mind you the demo ran poorly under linux compared to windows :(
[12:51] <flake> _luke_ copy over your installed base folder and subdir megatexture folder
[12:52] <flake> then run client and it will install the rest
[12:52] <_luke_> flake: thanks - will give it a try later
[12:54] <Thylio> Hi,  i am trying to install Madwifi, but i get all sorts of errors. The errors come when i try to "make".
[12:56] <Thylio> Can anyone help me?
[12:56] <martoya> Thylio: install make then
[12:56] <flake> Thylio, did you do sudo apt instlall build-essential  ?
[12:56] <martoya> Thylio: sudo apt-get install make build-essential
[12:56] <Thylio> yes, i have done that
[12:57] <stdin> Thylio: madwifi is in the linux-restricted-modules package
[12:57] <yaccin> hiding the scrollbar of the contactlist wasnt a feature added by kubuntu devs, i believe...
[12:57] <Thylio> stdin: okay, then ill try to install that
[12:57] <yaccin> but anyways i have that feature back in gentoo :)
[12:59] <Thylio> stdin , do i print "sudo apt-get install linux-testricted-modules" in terminal?
[12:59] <tysonsw> !compiz
[12:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:59] <stdin> tysonsw: restricted not testricted, but yeah
[12:59] <Thylio> Hehe, okay thx
[13:01] <flake> how do you force a re-make of source
[13:01] <tysonsw> what is the command in the konsole to see if you are on feisty or gutsy?
[13:01] <stdin> flake: "make clean" then "make"
[13:01] <flake> thanks
[13:02] <stdin> !version | tysonsw
[13:02] <ubotu> tysonsw: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[13:03] <Thylio> stdin: Do i need to reboot after installing to find madwifi in Kmenu?
[13:04] <stdin> Thylio: it won't be in the kmenu, but you should reboot to see if it works
[13:05] <Thylio> Okay, how do i see if it works than?    Just put my wifi card in, and somthing pop's up?
[13:05] <stdin> Thylio: try booting with the card inserted
[13:06] <Tm_T> !dvd
[13:06] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[13:07] <Thylio> stdin:  Will do.  Sould i extrakt my TP-cabel when i boot?
[13:08] <stdin> Thylio: I don't think it should matter
[13:10] <Thylio> Thx       brb i guess :)
[13:18] <flake> in the makefile, is there an option I can use to strip to reduce the size of a binary, like  -s
[13:20] <tysonsw> what is the konsole command to start a install file??
[13:21] <stdin> probably "make stripinstall" but that depends on the makefile
[13:21] <stdin> tysonsw: what install file?
[13:21] <atlfalcons866> how can i erase free space
[13:23] <rixxon> Updated to 7.10 and graphics are very laggy - both with restricted and open drivers
[13:23] <rixxon> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]
[13:24] <stdin> rixxon: probably because you are using Xgl
[13:25] <Angelus> OK
[13:25] <Angelus> dudes
[13:26] <Angelus> anybody who had the issue of the monitor turning off instead of splashsreen or getting a blankscreen, the fix is to compile you're own kernel with the vesafb module enabled, somehow the developerss have turned it off by default and left the boott upsplash enabled, which is a stupid thing.
[13:27] <rixxon> stdin: (now X randomly died on me) yes, Xgl seems to be running
[13:27] <Aranel> how can I add "sudo swapon /dev/sdb3" to startup ?
[13:27] <WaltzingAlong> rixxon: also using compiz-fusion ?
[13:27] <rixxon> I don't use compositing though, how do have it run normal X
[13:27] <rixxon> WaltzingAlong: kwin
[13:28] <stdin> rixxon: try uninstalling it (if you don't use compiz)
[13:28] <sandhya> Hi, can I upgrade using the alternate CD without burning it? (Just mounting it)
[13:28] <rixxon> what's the package?
[13:28] <Thylio> Angelus: Yes, when i boot i get a blackscreen, and than after a minutte or two, i come to the login section.
[13:28] <stdin> xserver-xgl
[13:28] <rixxon> nevermind
[13:29] <WaltzingAlong> sandhya: mount it, as you mentioned, then run the upgrade script from the cd ?
[13:29] <WaltzingAlong> sandhya: (the mounted image, i meant0
[13:29] <Thylio> stdin:  Now i have rebooted, but how do i know if my wifi thing is working, the lights ar not working (but this is a common issue on my card) What program should i use?
[13:30] <sandhya> WaltzingAlong: Just wondering if that works or if it'll cause issues upon reboot or something..
[13:30] <rixxon> stdin: thanks, works fine :)
[13:31] <stdin> Thylio: probably knetworkmanager, but you should be able to see if it's recognised by doing "iwconfig" in konsole
[13:31] <Rebecca_work> where do i enable compiz in gutsy?
[13:31] <Angelus> Thylio: the fix is to compile you're own kernel with the vesafb enabled :)
[13:31] <stdin> !compiz | Rebecca_work
[13:31] <ubotu> Rebecca_work: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:31]  * stdin kicks ubotu
[13:31] <Rebecca_work> crap
[13:31] <Angelus> Thylio: iv been playing with it for a week, i finaly figured out a fix
[13:31] <rixxon> stdin: so I guess that is how slow compiz would be on my laptop btw?
[13:32] <stdin> rixxon: or slower
[13:32] <rixxon> yea
[13:32] <Thylio> Angelus: Okay, how do i enable vesafb then?
[13:33] <sandhya> Running updater now - thanks!
[13:33] <Thylio> stdin: the only extention i find is in ath0, is this correct?
[13:34] <stdin> Thylio: yep, ath0 is atheros, well done :)
[13:34] <stdin> !framebuffer
[13:34] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[13:34] <Thylio> Thx for the help stdin :D
[13:34] <Stevey> hi can anyone help me with the config of my network in kubuntu?
[13:35] <stdin> Thylio: no problem :)
[13:35] <Stevey> I'm a complete newbie
[13:36] <Stevey> stdin can you help me please?
[13:37] <flake> what type of help do you need Stevey
[13:37] <Stevey> I would need some help in configuring my network
[13:38] <Stevey> I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and can't get the network running
[13:38] <flake> you mean connected to the internet?
[13:38] <flake> or networked pc's
[13:38] <Stevey> Right now I'm on another machine... I would like to connect to the network to be able to use the printer and the internet
[13:38] <flake> you have to be a little more specific with your questions
[13:40] <flake> what is this network
[13:40] <Stevey> ok what would you like to know?
[13:42] <Stevey> flake do you read?
[13:42] <flake> yes, trying to guess what you have
[13:42] <flake> does your network have a router with a built-in firewall
[13:43] <flake> let me nick my registered name and we'll go PM to keep the clutter in here down
[13:43] <Stevey> ok
[13:45] <drarem> Stevey are you getting my pm
[13:46] <Stevey> nope sorry
[13:46] <drarem> pm me
[13:49] <Thylio> I want to change theme, and when i look at KDE-look.org, there is like 1000 diferent categories with themes. What am i supposed to download?
[13:49] <stdin> !changethemes
[13:49] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[13:50] <Thylio> thx again :P
[13:51] <CPrompt^> so...how are peoples upgrades going?  I still haven't gotten anything from Adept saying that there's a new version which is a bit strange
[13:51] <CPrompt^> kind of a mixed bunch as far as success and errors?
[13:51] <wastedfluid> it's a little rough, but it works.
[13:51] <CPrompt^> wastedfluid : how did you do the upgrade?
[13:52] <drarem> be back, don't know why konversation is left out of basic install
[13:52] <dystopianray> konversation is in kubuntu by default
[13:53] <drarem> not in my 7.10 cd
[13:53] <wastedfluid> CPrompt^: I did the net upgrade; then wiped out my install for the cd install.
[13:53] <drarem> clean install, unless there was a prompt and I didn't check it
[13:53] <wastedfluid> But Gutsy was too rough for me, especially for my laptop.  Kmilo was broke, which was depressing.. had to revert to an older kmilo version.
[13:54] <wastedfluid> I reverted back to fiesty, and i'm installing 3.5.8 for now.  :-)
[13:54] <wastedfluid> I forgot abou those two bugs; kopete, and kmilo.. I guess I get to work on those now :p
[13:54] <jimmydee> hi guys, samba question this morning, I got samba all set up, it sees it from my windows box, but wont let me authenticate, help?
[13:55] <Rebecca_work> anyone know how i tell adept to fetch through a web proxy. it's falling down and i think that's why. i have configured proxy details in network settings and konq works through it.. but adept is still failing fetching updates
[13:56] <bobbi> help - i'm a novice stuck in mid upgrade from feisty to gutsy- what can i do?
[13:56] <jimmydee> how far along are you bobbi?
[13:57] <jimmydee> g'day stdin
[13:57] <bobbi> jimmydee - i'm in the installing upgrades bit
[13:57] <jimmydee> and the problem is?
[13:57] <stdin> hmm, lagged out there
[13:58] <bobbi> jimmydee - it seems to be frozen at 'configuring libselinux1'
[13:58] <Rebecca_work> anyone know how to get apt working behind a proxy?
[13:59] <jimmydee> how long has it been stuck bobbi?
[13:59] <superman> hi
[13:59] <bobbi> jimmydee - at least thirty minutes
[14:00] <jimmydee> ctrl c try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again?
[14:00] <superman> can anybody help me configure my network so I can connect to the Internet? I have kubuntu 7.04
[14:00] <bobbi> jimmydee - i'll give that a try - thanks
[14:01] <jimmydee> stdin do you have to change all the feisty's in sources.list to gutsy's to dist upgrade?
[14:01] <stdin> jimmydee: no, use adept
[14:01] <drarem> ok where's Stevey
[14:01] <jimmydee> ok, supposing one were to be using the terminal?
[14:02] <atlfalcons866> how can i wipe free space
[14:02] <stdin> jimmydee: then install update-manager-core and do "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[14:03] <jimmydee> ahh, learn something new every day
[14:03] <superman> Hi!
[14:03] <superman> Can anybody help me with my network problem on kubuntu 7.04?
[14:03] <drarem> is that you Stevey
[14:03] <bobbi> jimmydee - console errr msg - Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:04] <jimmydee> is adept still open?
[14:04] <bobbi> i'll close it but it warns me i might get an unusable system
[14:04] <wankoo> Uptime: 37 minutes
[14:05] <jimmydee> bobbi: wouldnt want that, one moment, stdin, what do you think of bobbi's situation?
[14:05] <bobbi> jimmydee - its done
[14:05] <superman> Hi drarem it's me, Stevey!
[14:05] <stdin> bobbi, jimmydee: it's safer than just changing sources
[14:05] <drarem> is your nick registered
[14:06] <superman> no not yet
[14:06] <superman> how can I register it?
[14:06] <jimmydee> true enough
[14:06] <drarem> can't do pm then..  do you have a laptop and trying to connect to network?
[14:06] <wastedfluid> superman: see /ns help register
[14:06] <bobbi> jimmydee - i'm getting same error msg in console
[14:07] <superman> yes I have a working computer in the network... on the one I just set up with linux, I also have win xp running and it has internet and network connectivity
[14:07] <stdin> bobbi: about /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[14:08] <bobbi> stdin - ello?
[14:08] <drarem> what type of computer is linux on
[14:09] <stdin> bobbi: the message in the console, is it about that lock file again?
[14:09] <superman> a pc...
[14:09] <d347hm4n> can i get some help with my wireless connection anyone?
[14:09] <jimmydee> !wireless
[14:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:10] <bobbi> stdin - yes same message
[14:10] <superman> what do you mean?
[14:10] <stdin> bobbi: try "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" to kill any process locking it
[14:10] <dhq_> bobbi, well do you have adept or synaptics open
[14:10] <drarem> you should try www.google.com, I don't know enough to guess why you can't connect, other than maybe you have a router with mac address filtering?
[14:10] <drarem> or is it wireless..
[14:10] <superman> I don't know the setup of the network, because its a bigger network here... I used the same settings as in the windows
[14:11] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: how do i find out what chipset i have on the card?
[14:11] <bobbi> dhq nope only console and this conversation
[14:11] <jimmydee> d347hm4n:brand, make, model?
[14:11] <drarem> if you don't own the network, chances are they restrict access
[14:11] <dhq_> bobbi, did you use sudo before the command
[14:11] <drarem> and have to add your machine manually
[14:11] <bobbi> dhq - yup
[14:12] <bobbi> stdin - process killed - i'll retry
[14:12] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: well on the box it says it was autodetected in ubuntu, it says it's a safecom swlpr-5400 on the box but in the knetwork manager it says it is a realtech rtl-8185
[14:13] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: you can see why im confused :D
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[14:13] <Mac40DO> Hi! How can I install these konsole-fonts: console8x16.pcf.gz and 9x15.pcf.gz?
[14:13] <bobbi> stdin - i still get the same locked file message
[14:13] <jimmydee> d347hm4n: I'd say its a safe bet its the realtek, they make chipsets for all kinds of manufacturers
[14:13] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: so then i take it that the driver is installed correctly
[14:14] <jimmydee> d347hm4n:are you getting wireless?
[14:14] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: but i have a wpa access point and when i try and access it it freezes the pc
[14:14] <bobbi> stdin: dare i try restarting my pc?
[14:14] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: i can see the ap if thats what you mean
[14:14] <stdin> bobbi: that will probably fix it
[14:14] <Flats> I upgraded my kubunut to 7.1 last week but everyday adept manager says new upgrade available, goes thru all the gyrations then says I am already up to date.  Can I make it stop asking me to upgrade?
[14:15] <jimmydee> d347hm4n: ok then I'd say the driver is in right
[14:15] <bobbi> stdin: i'll try that - i have access to another pc if it won't reboot
[14:15] <dhq_> Flats, thats a bug in adept
[14:15] <Flats> ahhh OK
[14:15] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: but accessing the ap make the computer freeze and i have to reboot, i read somewhere that you have to use kwifimanager to connect to a wpa ap
[14:16] <jimmydee> d347hm4n: can you turn off wpa for a sec and see if you get in?
[14:16] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: give me a min, ill get back to you
[14:16] <bobbi> stdin, dhq and jimmydee: see you later hopefully and thanks
[14:16] <jimmydee> K
[14:17] <Rebecca_work> is there a known fault with adept not releasing the lock file?
[14:17] <jimmydee> I've seen synaptic do it
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Flats, I went thru the same thing, the next time the adept manager asks you to update just reconfigure it not to start ...then do an apt-get upgrade everyday and you will be notified of the regular updates in a less bothersome way.
[14:18] <ubunturos> how do I remove a half-configured package?
[14:18] <d347hm4n> jimmydee:if i disappear it is because i have stalled at 28% and then crashed, ill be back though
[14:18] <Thylio> When i open a program in desktop1, why do i see it in the taskline in desktop2? I don't want that.
[14:18] <frank__> Ok that sounds easy enough
[14:18] <wastedfluid> i just use apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade w/out adept
[14:18] <jimmydee> d347hm4n: I'll be here
[14:18] <jimmydee> !wireless
[14:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:18] <ubunturos> dpkg -r package-name doesn't help
[14:19] <dhq_> ubunturos, hey
[14:19] <ubunturos> hey dhq
[14:19] <dhq_> ubunturos, cant wait for kde4
[14:20] <ubunturos> dhq_: umm, December
[14:20] <ubunturos> btw dhq_ do you know how to remove a half-configured package in Kubuntu?
[14:20] <dhq_> ubunturos, jan i guess
[14:20] <WaltzingAlong> ubunturos: yes sudo dpkg -r <package>
[14:20] <ubunturos> dhq_: ah, yes, they did change the date
[14:20] <dhq_> right on it WaltzingAlong :)
[14:20] <ubunturos> WaltzingAlong: that doesn't work - it cannot find the package, since it is not installed
[14:20] <Rebecca_work> how i unlock the apt/adept lock file?
[14:20] <jimmydee> ubunturos: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[14:21] <ubunturos> jimmydee: that doesn't work - package is not installed
[14:21] <BluesKaj> what's with the new distribution version available? ..I did a clean gutsy install !
[14:21] <dhq_> Rebecca_work, just do a killall adept
[14:21] <ubunturos> jimmydee: WaltzingAlong - it is half-configured
[14:21] <Angelus> BluesKaj: bug
[14:21] <dhq_> Rebecca_work, just do a killall and find any process with adept and make sure you are root whan youu run it
[14:21] <WaltzingAlong> Thylio: customize the panel then. kcontrol, find taskbar, change the options there
[14:21] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: as predicted, without the wpa encryption
[14:22] <jimmydee> sudo apt-get -f install then sudo apt-get remove packagename
[14:22] <Angelus> BluesKaj: its' and adept bug , you're adept wil be updated and the bug will be fixed
[14:22] <dhq_> ubunturos, you could find the package you installed in synaptics and remove it
[14:22] <Thylio> WaltzingAlong: Okay, thx
[14:22] <Angelus> Thylio: have you fixed it?
[14:22] <luca> hi everyone
[14:22] <dhq_> ubunturos,  sudo apt-get remove packagename
[14:22] <dhq_> should work
[14:22] <Angelus> if you want i have a how Thylio for the bootup splash
[14:22] <ubunturos> dhq_: the package *is not* installed - it is *half-configured*
[14:22] <luca> does anyone use the kdesvn-buildrc script successufully?
[14:22] <Rebecca_work> dhq_: thanks
[14:23] <jimmydee> ubunturos: sudo apt-get -f install then sudo apt-get remove packagename
[14:23] <WaltzingAlong> ubunturos: you did not install it through a .deb or apt or adept or such?
[14:23] <WaltzingAlong> ubunturos: or you installed from source?
[14:23] <dhq_> jimmydee, what if he is installing from source or deb
[14:23] <Thylio> Angelus: Yes, pleas tell me how to fix it :)
[14:23] <ubunturos> WaltzingAlong: I installed it using Adept, but it stopped midway
[14:23] <Angelus> ok i'll give you the link Thylio
[14:23] <ubunturos> WaltzingAlong: now, the status of the package is "Half-configured"
[14:23] <dhq_> ubunturos, the do sudo apt-get -f install
[14:24] <dhq_> ubunturos, and then remove the package
[14:24] <jimmydee> d347hm4n: feel like installing kwifimanager?
[14:24] <WaltzingAlong> ok then from the console you should be able to run sudo dpkg -r <package name>  but it may also work to do sudo aptitude purge <package>; sudo dpkg --configure -a    should attempt to configure it
[14:24] <Angelus> Thylio: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/156225
[14:24] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: i have it installed. Should i just tryagain in that
[14:25] <jimmydee> give it a swing
[14:25] <Thylio> Angelus: Thx. I'll try to fix it now=)
[14:25] <dhq_> ubunturos, sudo apt-get -f install this will configures and install the package ie if you used adept
[14:25] <Angelus> for nothing Thylio
[14:25] <d347hm4n> woohoo i'll be back :D
[14:26] <BluesKaj> Angelus, what do you mean adept will be updated ? when and how?
[14:26] <blendtux> how can i change gtk themes, for programs like the gimp wich is using my colour sheme of kde and i dont want that
[14:26] <ubunturos> jimmydee: doesn't help
[14:27] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: the switch to network button is greyed out, and the noise statistic is at 158, with 0 for connection
[14:27] <WaltzingAlong> turn off your microwave oven!
[14:27] <ubunturos> dhq_: the problem is that dpkg cannot find the package (nor can adept / apt-get) since it isn't installed, just half configured
[14:27] <dhq_> BluesKaj, well isnt that option there in kcontrol>>lookand feel not so sure but its there in the apparency somewhere
[14:27] <Angelus> BluesKaj: a new version of adept, that will fix the bug you have "the update to new version" bug
[14:28] <Angelus> BluesKaj: my adept already got updated, and the bug is fixed
[14:28] <dhq_> blendtux, , well isnt that option there in kcontrol>>lookand feel not so sure but its there in the apparency somewhere
[14:28] <blendtux> but i am talking about the gtk applications
[14:28] <jimmydee> d347hm4n: hmmm one moment
[14:29] <dhq_> ubunturos, i have no clue
[14:29] <ubunturos> dhq_: no, problem. Thanks, anyway
[14:29] <d347hm4n> jimmydee: np, thanks for the time already :D
[14:29] <dhq_> ubunturos, i got to go now see you around
[14:29] <X-DeluXe> could anybody help me with bluetooth + kde?
[14:29] <ubunturos> dhq_: bye, see you later
[14:29] <dhq_> X-DeluXe, i have been running around every where for bluetooth +kde but never got help
[14:30] <dhq_> X-DeluXe, if you find something do tell me
[14:30] <d347hm4n> X-DeluXe: the best place for bluetooth suport is fedora 8, but it is still a test release
[14:31] <sparrw> The KDE printer dialog always wants to scan 127.0.0.*, which seems silly.  Why doesn't it know to look at the OTHER subnet that I am on?
[14:32] <sehe> sparrw: prolly becos nobody programmed it to do so
[14:32] <sehe> sparr: how many printers do you have on your network
[14:32] <X-DeluXe> dhq_: okay...
[14:33] <blendtux> dhq what i meant is i have a different colour sheme for gtk apps but dont know how to apply that
[14:33] <blendtux> now its using the kde coloursheme
[14:33] <sparrw> sehe: maybe 1, maybe 37.
[14:35] <Flats> When a program is installed, where does it normally install to?
[14:36] <Thylio> Angelus: You said that i had to write "make menuconfig", what folder do i need to bee in?
[14:37] <Angelus> in you're kernel source folder
[14:37] <Angelus> Thylio:
[14:37] <Angelus> :p
[14:37] <Thylio> Angelus: then how do I make it there?
[14:38]  * genii puts on a new pot of coffee
[14:38] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: i think you can do that in 'system settings'; system settings/appearance/gtk styles and fonts
[14:38] <Flats> When a program is installed, where does it normally install to?
[14:38] <Flats> i.e. Xchat?
[14:39] <WaltzingAlong> !lds
[14:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:39] <blendtux> ehm not realy, WaltzingAlong its using the colour sheme from kde
[14:39] <blendtux> and i want a different colour sheme for gtk2 apps
[14:41] <vivia> Hi there... I just upgraded to Gutsy, everything seems to be running fine, but if I run aptitude -f install it acts up : http://pastebin.ca/746758    The weird thing is, the packages it states as "not installable" are actually installed! ok, I haven't tried all of them, but I do have gnome-control-center, rpm, libopensync0, desktop-file-utils and ntfs-3g ... And, apart from opensync-related stuff which is from a third-party repository, all other packa
[14:42] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: gtk-theme-switch or something like that?
[14:42] <sparrw> Flats: "dpkg -L nameofpackage"
[14:42] <Flats> sparrw Thx
[14:42] <sparrw> Flats: most programs install a binary in /usr/bin or /usr/share/bin or /bin, and some data in /usr/share/... or /usr/local/share/...
[14:43] <Flats> So usr/bin dare I say is kinda like program files in Windows
[14:43] <WaltzingAlong> AH!
[14:43] <blendtux> oke thanks
[14:43] <werty> is firestarter really safe?
[14:43] <jimmydee> stdin: if youre around I got a samba issue for you
[14:44] <jimmydee> only as kindlying werty
[14:44] <jimmydee> kindling
[14:44] <WaltzingAlong> !info guarddog
[14:44] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[14:45] <werty> i've tried guardog but i cant use kopete nad konversation...
[14:45] <jimmydee> any samba help this morning?
[14:45] <WaltzingAlong> werty: configure it correctly
[14:45] <bridge> OOO
[14:45] <WaltzingAlong> werty: certainly they can both work with iptables modified by guarddog
[14:46] <werty> yes i did it but ..konversation and kopete although i allowed the protocol through guar... say that server denied actively..
[14:47] <werty> iptables?
[14:47] <WaltzingAlong> vivia: may be helpful to run sudo aptitude update   and may also be helpful to make sure you have just gutsy repositories and not a mixture of gutsy and feisty
[14:47] <WaltzingAlong> !iptables
[14:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[14:49] <vivia> WaltzingAlong: thx... just reran aptitude update, no change, checked repos, they are ok... :|
[14:49] <WaltzingAlong> vivia: great
[14:49] <stdin> jimmydee: I gave up on samba a while ago
[14:49] <WaltzingAlong> werty: http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/manual2/
[14:50] <WaltzingAlong> werty: take your time, work through it slowly :D
[14:50] <vivia> WaltzingAlong: not so great, my problem persists and i can't find what might be wrong! ... i'm afraid i have to be too careful in order to not lose my openoffice and eclipse...
[14:50] <yaccin> i used encrypted LVM when i install kubuntu gutsy.... now i cant delete the partitions in fdisk?
[14:50] <WaltzingAlong> vivia: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[14:51] <surface> how can i add an app into kwallet, let say pidgin ?
[14:52] <vivia> WaltzingAlong: http://pastebin.ca/746772
[14:52] <clavius_> just installed kubuntu 7.10, should there be compiz on by default_
[14:52] <clavius_> ?
[14:52] <WaltzingAlong> clavius_:  no
[14:52] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[14:52] <yaccin> how can i delte the partitions on the encrypted LVM i created with the alternate CD?
[14:52] <stdin> WaltzingAlong: you know we have !compiz ?
[14:53] <WaltzingAlong> clavius_: ubuntu 7.10 (gnome) yes
[14:53] <WaltzingAlong> stdin: sure do!
[14:53]  * genii hands stdin a large mug of coffee
[14:53] <stdin> WaltzingAlong: gotta be easier than a command alias ;)
[14:53] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[14:53] <[ifr0g]> !divx
[14:53] <vivia> !compiz
[14:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:53] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:53]  * stdin takes the coffee and dumps a ton of sugar in it
[14:54] <clavius_> WaltzingAlong: ok
[14:54] <WaltzingAlong> vivia: how about opening aptitude, sudo aptitude, then specifying to install the packages you want to keep
[14:54] <genii> stdin: :)
[14:54] <vesal> Hi, I have a simple problem, but I can't find any clues on the net... after upgrading to Gutsy, the adept_manager doesn't show the manage repository dialogue... why?
[14:54]  * WaltzingAlong ponders a double serving of mocha
[14:55] <WaltzingAlong> vesal: software-properties-kde needs to be installed ?
[14:56] <stdin> WaltzingAlong: or at least add the bit about help in #compiz-fusion (as it's really not supported by us) to your little alias
[14:56] <WaltzingAlong> stdin: yeah mostly that was for when the bot was on break and the influx had just started
[14:56] <vivia> WaltzingAlong: something messed up my packages... let me run aptitude in full screen and i'll be back. :)
[14:57] <vesal> Yes! Somehow this had been uninstalled... THANKS A MILLION TIMES... but I'm curious though, how do you know such stuff? Where should I have looked for this information (other than here?)
[14:57] <WaltzingAlong> vivia: nice thing about sudo aptitude is that it provides an ncurses interface too, so in konsole you can click things
[14:58] <stdin> experience is the key to linux knowledge, if you break your system enough you learn how to fix it
[14:58] <blendtux> ehm WaltzingAlong is that gkt-theme-switch app is only for changing themes already installed or allso for new theme installation
[14:58] <yaccin> help?
[14:58] <WaltzingAlong> vesal: either you are born with it or not, lol, j/j; asking google may have yielded the answer or searching wiki.ubuntu.com is it?
[14:58] <blendtux> cuase every gtk theme i donwload i can not install
[14:59] <yaccin> please?
[14:59] <WaltzingAlong> yaccin: with?
[14:59] <stdin> blendtux: it's only to apply the kde theme to GTK apps
[14:59] <yaccin> WaltzingAlong: i had kubuntu isntalled on an encrypted LVM
[14:59] <WaltzingAlong> stdin: how to make gtk apps have a different theme than kde apps/colors, was the question by blendtux
[14:59] <yaccin> now i cant use fdisk to make a new partition table
[14:59] <blendtux> ehm, that is not what i am looking for
[14:59] <WaltzingAlong> yaccin: how to delete an encrypted lvm with fdisk?
[15:00] <WaltzingAlong> different colors*
[15:00] <yaccin> yes
[15:00] <blendtux> i want to use a gtk2 theme and different colours for apps like gimp and vlc
[15:00] <stdin> blendtux: look in System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts
[15:00] <yaccin> strange thing is: it worked on my laptop
[15:01] <blendtux> yes but how can i install a gtk theme from those settings
[15:01] <blendtux> to use for my gtk apps
[15:01] <vivia> WaltzingAlong: turns out i just have to select my packages, select the other solution which is "Cancel the removal of $other_package", press enter to see which libs it misses and install them... Why couldn't aptitude install them? ^o)
[15:01] <surface> how can i add an app to kwallet, let say pidgin ?
[15:01] <stdin> blendtux: open what ever gnome's equivalent of system settings is and install it?
[15:01] <WaltzingAlong> vivia: there is an option in aptitude to cancel all marked changes
[15:01] <blendtux> ehm i never used gnome, lol
[15:01] <WaltzingAlong> surface: rewrite pidgin to use kwallet ?
[15:01] <stdin> surface: pidgin doesn't work with kwallet
[15:02] <vivia> WaltzingAlong: i just need to install some new stuff....
[15:02] <Angelus> stdin: the frambuffer wiki you're giving him is useless to solve the bootupsplash bug
[15:02] <WaltzingAlong> maybe as a plugin?
[15:02] <stdin> blendtux: I don't think there is any app to install gtk themes in KDE, unless you find a package with the gnome one
[15:02] <surface> oh that means the app must support kwallet inorder to add it
[15:02] <Angelus> Thylio: did you fix it?
[15:03] <WaltzingAlong> vivia: well there you go. glad you got it working (or will soon)
[15:03] <surface> gtk-qt-engine will make ur gtk app looks like qt one
[15:03] <dystopianray> surface: generally only kde applications support kwallet
[15:03] <stdin> Angelus: that's the only wiki page on framebuffers I can find
[15:03] <Amarilis> I tried to run Kubuntu 7.10 from Live CD on my desktop, but I wasn't able to see anything on my display. The same problem I encountered when I tried Kubuntu 7.04 and even Ubuntu 7.04/7.10.
[15:03] <Amarilis> My configuration is:
[15:03] <Amarilis> GA-8I945P Pro motherboard/nvidia 6600 GTS 128VRAM graphic card/3.0GHz processor (HT)/
[15:03] <Amarilis> 512 MB RAM/SATA HDD/Samsung SyncMaster 959NF-display
[15:03] <Amarilis> I tested both Live CD's (Kubuntu/Ubuntu 7.10) on a Compaq laptop (3-4 years old) and it worked perfect.
[15:03] <surface> dystopianray: oh i see
[15:03] <Amarilis> Is there something related to my desktop configuration (e.g. graphic card) or is it else ?
[15:04] <WaltzingAlong> Amarilis: i think the livecd gives options to start in safe graphics mode and such , maybe try that
[15:04] <dystopianray> surface: pidgin developers have specifically chosen not to use/implement secure password storage
[15:04] <smorg> !iso
[15:04] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[15:05] <Amarilis> waltizing> i'll give it a try
[15:05] <Angelus> Amarilis: wait, it will apear. its a splashscreen bug
[15:05] <surface> dystopianray: i see.
[15:05] <yaccin> :(
[15:05] <smorg> !mdf
[15:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:05] <Angelus> stdin: it's a bug, the developers didn't make vesafb available in the kubuntu kernel, and they left bootup splash there. bootup splash doesn't work without vesafb , at least on somecards. i wrote a fix for it on launchpad
[15:06] <stdin> Angelus: so poke someone in #ubuntu-kernel about it ;)
[15:07] <Amarilis> and why on the earth dont fix this f....bug?
[15:07] <Amarilis> it's pretty anoying...for me at least
[15:08] <Amarilis> and i think for others too
[15:08] <Angelus> ah ok stdin thanks i will
[15:08] <paulc> I was just reading the ubuntu installation & upgrades forum, and noticed this post. It mirrors what happened to me, I keep seeing the distribution upgrade available in adept.. here is the forum message:Last night before I went to bed, I installed kubuntu-desktop and left it at that.
[15:08] <paulc>
[15:08] <paulc>  This morning I get up and I see a new package manager wants to install stuff. Adapt Manager did its thing and installed 12 updates. When it was finished, it told me there was a new distribution available. I was a little surprised because I thought I was already on the newest one.
[15:08] <paulc>
[15:08] <paulc>  I did a cat /etc/issue and it told me I was using 7.10
[15:08] <paulc>
[15:08] <paulc>  I opened the update manager which I'm used to using in gnome and it doesn't say anything about a new distribution upgrade (which my desktop did, and I used to upgrade it after beta was over.)
[15:08] <paulc>
[15:09] <stdin> paulc: thanks for that flood, please never do that again
[15:10] <paulc> sorry, I don't know what a flood is. I ws just trying to post a message I read, what should I have done?
[15:10] <stdin> paulc: the issue of adept still showing version upgrade is known, ignore it for now until the fix is released
[15:10] <paulc> I will inform that user on the forums, thanks, and sorry again,
[15:10] <stdin> paulc: use a link to the message, don't paste large posts in here
[15:11] <vivia> WaltzingAlong: now that's worse, for some reason it wants to remove a total of 365 packages :(... still trying
[15:11] <Angelus> done stdin
[15:11] <paulc> here is a link to his message: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588074&goto=newpost
[15:11]  * genii sips a coffee
[15:13] <Amarilis> Angeluss: i booted using Kubuntu live cd 7.10. and on my display i see only stripes
[15:13] <vivia> WaltzingAlong: alright... on aptitude's menu i just selected "cancel all pending tasks"... who knows why it wanted them to be removed!... ok, now i just have some unused packages which i just removed and aptitude is happy :)
[15:13] <vivia> WaltzingAlong: thanx :)
[15:13] <Amarilis> i heard the sound from KDE
[15:13] <WaltzingAlong> vivia: :D
[15:14] <yaccin> http://pastebin.org/5697
[15:14] <n8k99> !nick
[15:14] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[15:15] <blendtux> brb
[15:16] <sredna> hello
[15:16] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[15:16] <sredna> is there a reason why there isn't 64bit java packages?
[15:16] <smorg> hi
[15:16] <tue> Hey. I wish to use an external screen with my laptop on k. gutsy. Xorg.conf looks fine - it has identified both the laptop and the external monitor and set up relevant sections. In serverlayout it has the lines: Screen 0 "laptop_screen" \n Screen 1 "external_screen" RightOf "laptop_screen" so that looks fine to. But when i plug in the external monitor, the external monitor is just a clone of the laptop monitor in tha laptops native resolution. How can i
[15:16] <tue> change this?
[15:18] <stdin> sredna: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[15:19] <paulc> I have a question about running KDE4 beta. I followed the instructions in http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[15:19] <paulc> but my system tray is empty and I can't start any apps
[15:20] <bigm> i've got some trouble with beta 3...
[15:20] <paulc> all that I see is the clock, the klipper and korganizer Daemon.
[15:20] <hydrogen> thats expected
[15:20] <hydrogen> well
[15:20] <hydrogen> you should bea ble to start apps
[15:20] <hydrogen> but
[15:20] <hydrogen> the rest is expected
[15:20] <paulc> the desktop toolbar puts out empty boxes that do nothing, so how do you start apps?
[15:21] <bigm> i need to find out how to make screenshots to explain my problems^^
[15:21] <poison--> llo guys
[15:21] <supert0ne1> when will we see rc1 and will it be somewhat more usable than beta 3?
[15:21] <Amarilis> WaltzingAlong, Angelus: i booted Kubuntu LiveCD in Safe mode VGA(sorry if i don't mention exactly) and it's started perfectly
[15:21] <d347hm4n> how do i remove an already loaded wireless driver?
[15:21] <Amarilis> :)
[15:21] <hydrogen> paulc: krunner
[15:22] <Amarilis> so... i'm pretty happy now that i can test the last release of kubuntu/ububtu
[15:22] <Amarilis> *ubuntu
[15:22] <paulc> hydrogen, how do you start krunner?
[15:22] <WaltzingAlong> Amarilis: great.
[15:22] <WaltzingAlong> !kde4
[15:22] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[15:22] <hydrogen> paulc: alt-f2 or right click on the desktop and choose run
[15:22] <sredna> stdin: thank you. seems there is no lights ahead :(
[15:23] <salox> how can i install gimp-2.2.17 in kubuntu 7.10, default is gimp-2.4.rc3 ?
[15:23] <Amarilis> thanks Waltzing for your idea
[15:23] <Amarilis> :)
[15:23] <supert0ne1> ooo tomorrow im excited now
[15:24] <salox> how can i install gimp-2.2.17 in kubuntu 7.10, default is gimp-2.4.rc3 ?
[15:25] <Vermux> when I sign out from Kubuntu the computer is stuck and I have to power it off to restart it. it happaned already 4 times so far. Does anybody know about this bug??
[15:25] <paulc> according to the system activity krunner is running, as is plasma, kdeinit4, kded4, kwin and kaccess
[15:26] <salox> how can i install gimp-2.2.17 in kubuntu 7.10, default is gimp-2.4.rc3 ?
[15:26] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: that used to happen for me in Fiesty. Do you use Fiesty or Gutsy?
[15:26] <SlimeyPete> I don't think it was ever fixed in Fiesty but it doesn't occur in Gutsy, for me at least
[15:26] <WaltzingAlong> salox: find it; find the .deb maybe you can run one from feisty. but you want it because it is slower at the rc3 release than was gimp2.2.17 for you
[15:26] <yaccin> thanks kubuntu for ruining my hard disk -_-
[15:27] <WaltzingAlong> yaccin: what did i do this time
[15:27] <bigm> oh kewl i have a white screen now^^
[15:27] <WaltzingAlong> SlimeyPete: Vermux: i know of at least one computer that does not exhibit this issue with the 2.6.22 kernel (kubuntu gutsy)
[15:27] <Vermux> SlimeyPete: please remind me how do I check? I think fiesty
[15:28] <yaccin> WaltzingAlong: still the problem that i cant fdisk my hard draive now!
[15:28] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: uname -r
[15:28] <SlimeyPete> (I think)
[15:28] <salox> ingwaltzi want it because rc3 is a test version
[15:28] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: cat /etc/lsb-release
[15:28] <Vermux> 2.6.20-16-generic
[15:28] <SlimeyPete> that's the Feisty kernel
[15:28] <WaltzingAlong> feisty then or at least gutsy with the feisty kernel
[15:29] <SlimeyPete> I'd suggest upgrading to Gutsy if this problem is seriously bothering you
[15:29] <Vermux> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[15:29] <Vermux> DISTRIB_RELEASE=7.04
[15:29] <Vermux> DISTRIB_CODENAME=feisty
[15:29] <Vermux> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 7.04"
[15:29] <WaltzingAlong> feisty it is!
[15:29] <Vermux> is it a known problem?
[15:29] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: yeah
[15:30] <Vermux> Gusty is the new version?
[15:30] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | Vermux
[15:30] <ubotu> Vermux: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> yeah, Gutsy is the latest one
[15:30] <WaltzingAlong> yaccin: how about http://www.google.com/search?q=manipulate+lvm+partitions&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[15:30] <blendtux> only use the bittorrent if you are not a customer off comcast
[15:30] <Vermux> SlimeyPete: is it beta version?
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105102
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: no, Gutsy has been released
[15:31] <SlimeyPete> it was released last week
[15:31] <SlimeyPete> it's stable.
[15:31] <WaltzingAlong> !info evms | yaccin
[15:31] <ubotu> yaccin: evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.5-26ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 86 kB, installed size 312 kB
[15:32] <yaccin> WaltzingAlong: no
[15:32] <yaccin> i got it
[15:32] <yaccin> but thanks
[15:32] <blendtux> what does the evms
[15:32] <blendtux> cause the description is kinda vage
[15:32] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: volume management; (partition management with logical volumes) ?
[15:32] <blendtux> oh oke
[15:33] <Hamra> if i write a document with openoffice write, and save it as MS-Word, can i be sure that Word will open it properly? i dont want my tutor to receive gibberish in my homeworks.
[15:34] <SlimeyPete> Hamra: you can be 99% sure. OO's Word compatibility is good these days.
[15:34] <WaltzingAlong> Hamra: if the person needs to edit it, then maybe find a happy medium or just use open iso standards (like odt); you cannot be sure that ms office will not recognize the document as having been created elsewhere (or in OOo specifically) then display it poorly (hm reminds me of using opera on hotmail some years ago); but otherwise, no need to edit, export to PDF; and btw, should you be doing any significant documentation, LaTeX!
[15:35] <Vermux> SlimeyPete: so the only solution is to upgrade? I didnt c any solution in the link u sent me
[15:35] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: yeah I think it's the only solution, sorry.
[15:35] <stephensflc> anyone here have any success with dual monitor using Nvidia 7600 GS... kubuntu 7.10  ?
[15:35] <Hamra> thnx waltzingalong, slimeypete
[15:35] <Vermux> ok
[15:36] <cperrin88_> Can someone help me with setting up Compiz (and maybe XGL) for my Kubuntu 7.10. I don't know what's wrong but I have around 100% CPU load when I use XGL
[15:40] <Vermux> SlimeyPete: is Gutsy is Kubuntu?
[15:40] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: yes
[15:40] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php
[15:40] <SlimeyPete> there's a download link there
[15:41] <smorg> hrm
[15:41] <smorg> smorg@smorg-desktop:~$ sudo mdf2iso "/media/sda1/Documents and Settings/Smorg/My Documents/Files/Disk Images/Diablo II/INSTALL.mdf" "/home/smorg/Diablo II"
[15:41] <smorg> unable to open
[15:43] <smorg> ah there we go, it didn't like my quotes
[15:47] <Yammeh> Guys, do you know of an application that sits in the task bar that shows you the usage of your hardware?
[15:47] <martin_> are there anyone here that could tell me how i make an accsess point for my wifi card??
[15:50] <Jucato> Yammeh: what kind of hardware?
[15:51] <Yammeh> Well my cpu/memory/hard drive etc
[15:51] <werty> any app which monitors the ip traffic and shows which apps are using it/
[15:51] <werty> ?
[15:52] <E_mE> all my video's on youtube and GIFs all have slight pauses every 2-3 seconds
[15:52] <Jucato> werty: not sure if these will fit your needs: knetstats, knetload, knemo
[15:53] <Jucato> Yammeh: probably the System Guard panel applet
[15:53] <Yammeh> Ok, I'll google it, thanks
[15:54] <Jucato> Yammeh: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> System Guard
[15:54] <master3000> #kubuntu-de
[15:56] <Vermux> Jucato: do u recommend updating to Gutsy?
[15:56] <Jucato> hm.... next week probably :)
[15:57] <Jucato> so that you could avoid server traffic and get the latest bugfixes
[15:57] <Yammeh> It works, Jucato. Thanks dude
[15:58] <Vermux> Jucato: there havent been fixes yet?
[15:58] <Angelus> Amarilis: then VGA 16 something kernel module is compatable with you're card. my bad for taking long, iwas training.
[15:58] <WaltzingAlong> !compiz | cperrin88_ heere are some instructions regarding compiz and kubuntu; see also !nvidia or !ati or so on regarding your video card
[15:58] <ubotu> cperrin88_ heere are some instructions regarding compiz and kubuntu; see also !nvidia or !ati or so on regarding your video card: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:58] <Jucato> Vermux: not sure if they're in the servers already
[15:59] <qolo> how do i set env vars for a session ?
[15:59] <qolo> export ?
[16:00] <WaltzingAlong> yea
[16:00] <Jucato> !openweek
[16:00] <ubotu> openweek is Ubuntu is hosting a series of introductory sessions for people who want to join the Ubuntu community, which all takes place in a week. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek for schedules, logs, and instructions.
[16:05] <JuJuBee> Anybody good with iptables?
[16:05] <icecruncher> !adeptfix
[16:05] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:10]  * olegb slams his head in the table due to kopete crashing
[16:11] <Azzco> HAs anyone gotten the newer 100.14.23 nvidia drivers to work with kernel 2.6.23?
[16:11] <vers> what program do i use to download music?
[16:12] <Eyeless> ktorrent
[16:12] <SlimeyPete> amule, azureus, ktorrent
[16:13] <vers> rite on....i have ktorrent....
[16:14] <Yammeh> !applet
[16:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:16] <jjj__> hello!
[16:16] <Eyeless> lo
[16:17] <jjj__> heard of the man who levitated in front of the whitehouse?
[16:17] <stdin> !ot
[16:17] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:17] <jjj__> there's a better magic than that...
[16:18] <jjj__> that is, kubuntu being used on all pc all over the world! I hope it will happen soon...
[16:19] <blzmn> im having a problem innstaling ubuntu 7.10 after i have booted the cd and pressed start/innstall it crashes to busy box and says buffer error on device fd0 ect im wondering if its somthing i can fix or if its a permanent hardware problem
[16:19] <jjj__> blzmn: a problem in your floppy drive?
[16:20] <blzmn> no tought that so i disabled it same problem
[16:21] <blzmn> i might have to check in to it abit more dont remember the exact error codes i got but if anyone has experiensed anything similar pleas let me know
[16:27] <hnbc34> anyone got time to help a brother get his usb hard drive working in 7.10
[16:29] <hnbc34> no takers
[16:29] <hnbc34> ?
[16:30] <Eyeless> dont have one :/
[16:32] <werty> i've tried  knetstats, knetload, knemo but they don't actually do the job..
[16:33] <werty> is there something like iptable monitor which also reports which app is using them?
[16:35] <werty> ??
[16:36] <Jucato> werty: try searching in http://www.kde-apps.org or just browse through Adept (there's a search filter there for easier searching)
[16:36] <babeck> I was just wondering if there was a work around for the incorrect drop shadows generated by kwin-composite that appear when moving music to the play list in Amarok?
[16:37] <Jucato> kwin composite? that's for KDE 4
[16:38] <babeck> Jucato: In Kcontrol -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Translucency kwin provides composite options.
[16:38] <Jucato> that's kompmgr :)
[16:38] <babeck> Jucato: oops sorry.
[16:39] <Jucato> (it's a beta-quality software and no longer maintained...)
[16:40] <Jucato> (predated amarok, so I doubt if it had amarok's playlist in mind :P)
[16:40] <givaldo> Hi, people! Someone try use Palms with kubuntu?
[16:40] <babeck> Jucato: Ah so I guess not then.  That's too bad, I don't much care for Beryl, but I do like the drop shadows.
[16:41] <Jucato> how often do you move music? :D
[16:41] <babeck> Jucato: Sadly I'm the type that pretty much drags each song over individually.
[16:42] <givaldo> I try use "K-pilot", but it isn't connect with my palm (Zire 21).
[16:42] <Jucato> :)
[16:43] <givaldo> All time I click in "search device" button, the program search to 30% and crash.
[16:43] <givaldo> with or without device connect
[16:43] <Xymic> http://www.xymic.eu.tt
[16:43] <Xymic> http://www.xymic.eu.tt
[16:44] <Xymic> http://www.xymic.eu.tt
[16:44] <givaldo> someone know anyway to solve this?
[16:47] <phiras> I have a fresh Kubuntu7.10 , + mplayer , but I couldn't play any video file (mpg, wmv ), anyone can help please ?
[16:48] <SlimeyPete> !mpg
[16:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:48] <SlimeyPete> you probably need to grab the win32codecs from somewhere
[16:51] <phiras> phiras@phiras-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-restricted-extras[sudo] password for phiras:Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extra
[16:52] <phiras> I couldn't install it !
[16:55] <poison--> upgrade tp gutsy went smood :D
[16:55] <poison--> found a few bugs tho
[16:55] <poison--> where can i report?
[16:55] <poison--> or to where
[16:55] <SlimeyPete> launchpad.net/ubuntu
[16:56] <SlimeyPete> poison--: ^^
[16:56] <poison--> ty
[16:56] <supert0ne1> all of my bugs come in the form of compiz-fusion but its soo hard to give up heh
[16:57] <Yammeh> !compiz
[16:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:57] <don_> hey guys
[16:57] <don_> i installed oracle -xe
[16:57] <don_> how do i start it ?>
[17:00] <don_> anyone?
[17:02] <taylan_> hi all
[17:02] <don_> hi
[17:02] <taylan_> i am new at linux world
[17:03] <don_> ahh i see
[17:03] <taylan_> i want to start visual programming on linux
[17:03] <taylan_> any suggessstions :)
[17:04] <taylan_> programs ide etc.
[17:05] <don_> erm , try glade
[17:06] <taylan_> thx
[17:06] <don_> no problem
[17:06] <vbgunz> soundkonverter doesn't recognize mp3s anymore :( i can play mp3's but I can no longer convert them as soundKonverter does not recognize them :/
[17:08] <don_> hmm
[17:08] <vbgunz> hmm
[17:08] <vbgunz> I think I might know. it has plenty of plugins but is not finding any applications
[17:09] <liuz> hello
[17:10] <hitmanWilly> howdy
[17:12] <florianr> Is there a Prog. to automaticaly generate a label with a CDs Content?
[17:15] <qrawl> !flash
[17:15] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[17:17] <blubb> I've got a problem with my soundcard. There's no master mixer, and kmix does mix a wrong mixer per default (pc speaker), so the function keys on my laptop are mapped on the wrong mixer channel. What can I do?
[17:19] <Yammeh> !compiz
[17:19] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:19] <blubb> ok I found it out, once I disabled the function keys but I don't know now how to activate them... where or how are they mapped?
[17:21] <MurielGodoi> AFAIK,  in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:21] <MurielGodoi> blubb:  AFAIK,  in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:21] <bottiger> wow - I just took a look at /var/log/auth.log and found *lots* of stuff like this: http://pastebin.ca/746920
[17:22] <bottiger> is that normal?
[17:22] <blubb> MurielGodoi: no
[17:23] <blubb> I can assign the function keys in kde control center but not kmix. it just does not work if I press them... it seems they get ignored :(
[17:24] <vbgunz> anyone know how I can get the rest of the soundKonverter programs like aacgain, etc?
[17:24] <hitmanWilly> bottiger: no, i would say its not
[17:24] <blubb> hmm how is that possible?
[17:25] <bottiger> hitmanWilly: anything you can do about it :) except from forcing the users to user proper passwords
[17:25] <bottiger> and don't have "guest", "ftp" or "admin" user