[11:11] <phreakys> hm, no love from compiz
[11:14] <redondo81> I make a mistake a set all the repositories to multiverse!!!
[11:15] <redondo81> and now?What can I do to repair my error?
[11:15] <fdoving> redondo81: i recommend using source-o-matic
[11:15] <fdoving> !source-o-matic
[11:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:19] <Martijn81> errrr, anyone used vmware on ubuntu?
[11:20] <Bazzi> yes
[11:21] <Martijn81> i am trying to install 'that other OS'... but what do i awnser as partition type, seeing that it will install in my home ext3 partition?
[11:22] <Martijn81> i mean filesystem
[11:22] <fdoving> Martijn81: you're trying to install windows?
[11:22] <Bazzi> uh?
[11:22] <fdoving> do you have free space on your harddisk?
[11:22] <fdoving> unpartitioned that is.
[11:22] <Bazzi> you should be able to create a virtual disk w/ ntfs as filesystem
[11:22] <Bazzi> which is what I recommend
[11:22] <Martijn81> fdoving: yes, with vmware workstation
[11:23] <fdoving> Martijn81: ok. then i'll just shutup. i don't know vmware :)
[11:23] <Martijn81> so... i guess it's not going to work on my ext file system
[11:24] <Bazzi> hm upgrade to vmware server then I can help you ;)
[11:24] <Martijn81> pfff, glad i asked before hitting the key :)
[11:25] <Martijn81> damn, i don' t want any fancy ntfs anymore ;(
[11:25] <Martijn81> i knew it would break me
[11:26] <redondo81> I have the new sources.list, but now how  can I copy it in etc/apt/ folder?
[11:26] <Bazzi> Martijn81: well, ntfs is on the virtual disk then, so no harm for you ;)
[11:27] <redondo81> I have to copy as root a file in a folder , how can I do?
[11:28] <Martijn81> redondo81: with sudo
[11:28] <Martijn81> redondo81: sudo cp /where/sources.list/is/now /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <Martijn81> redondo81: but first backup
[11:29] <redondo81> ok, done
[11:29] <Martijn81> redondo81: cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_BACKUP_data
[11:29] <Martijn81> *date
[11:29] <redondo81> now, how to install jre?
[11:30] <Martijn81> Bazzi: so it doesn't mather is i install the virtual system on ext3?
[11:30] <Martijn81> *if
[11:30] <Bazzi> yeah you can install it anywhere
[11:31] <vandenoever> is there a source for cmake 2.4 in kubuntu dapper?
[11:31] <Martijn81> redondo81: apt-cache search sun
[11:32] <fdoving> vandenoever: only 2.2.3
[11:32] <redondo81> ok
[11:32] <vandenoever> fdoving: there's no backport?
[11:32] <fdoving> vandenoever: not that i'm aware of. might be anyway though.
[11:32] <vandenoever> i'm developing strigi and would like to make sure people can build it on dapper
[11:33] <Martijn81> redondo81: if sun-java5-jre is listed there you can install it with sudo apt-get install packagename
[11:33] <vandenoever> fdoving: i searched with google, is there an easier search engine for kubuntu packages?
[11:34] <fdoving> vandenoever: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <vandenoever> fdoving: hmm, ok
[11:35] <vandenoever> thanks
[11:35] <fdoving> you're welcome.
[11:37] <AquaFox> Can anybody here help me?
[11:37] <redondo81> when I lunch the command sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre,it says me that dipendencies are not satisfied, it requests to install sun-java5-bin, but it's not installable,I don't know why!:(
[11:37] <AquaFox> I'm on Kubuntu.
[11:37] <AquaFox> And my computer is on 24/7.
[11:37] <AquaFox> Before I go to sleep I let it idle and it logs off automatically.
[11:37] <AquaFox> I don't want it to log off automatically :(.
[11:40] <phreakys> waah
[11:40] <redondo81> In adept request entry the package is signaleted as broken,why?
[11:40] <phreakys> kde is so buggy on xgl
[11:41] <redondo81> someone can help me please?:(
[11:41] <phreakys> what is broken?
[11:42] <redondo81> the sun-jre package
[11:42] <phreakys> ah
[11:42] <phreakys> try remove it manually
[11:42] <redondo81> what can I do to repair?
[11:42] <phreakys> sudo apt-get remove *package*
[11:42] <redondo81> but it's not installed
[11:42] <phreakys> and then reinstall
[11:42] <phreakys> if its marked as broken, you should remove it
[11:42] <phreakys> i did that on xgl-kubuntu an hour ago (broken too), and now it works fine
[11:43] <redondo81> but the problem is that it's not installed , it says that the request is broken
[11:44] <phreakys> yea, so try to remove the stuff remaining
[11:47] <redondo81> how can I know what version of ubuntu I have?(dapper or breezy or hoary?
[11:47] <Jucato> redondo81: in Konsole, type: lsb_release -a
[11:48] <redondo81> mine is dapper
[11:49] <Jucato> !qemu
[11:49] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:55] <phreakys> hm, is there a way to disable the xgl-windowbar on startup in kde?
[11:56] <phreakys> nm, time for a brak
[11:56] <phreakys> break
[12:00] <Martijn81> heyyyy, cool i will read that Jucato, thnx
[12:07] <Piou2fois-fr> hi all
[12:07] <Piou2fois-fr> somebody can help me about xming software and x11forwarding,
[12:07] <Piou2fois-fr> ?
[12:08] <fdoving> what is your problem?
[12:08] <Piou2fois-fr> fdoving, i can easily start all software with putty
[12:08] <Piou2fois-fr> but if i used "startkde" all is ok five minutes but freezes after
[12:09] <Piou2fois-fr> is it a way to solve this problem?
[12:09] <fdoving> hmm.. don't know, i don't use putty very much, never tried running KDE through it.
[12:10] <Piou2fois-fr> hum
[12:10] <whatever> will "aptitude purge wine" do a complete (including all settings) uninstallation of wine?
[12:10] <Piou2fois-fr> ok, can is it possible to use something else than ssh for x11forwarding?
[12:10] <fdoving> whatever: yes, system settings, not per-user settings.
[12:11] <aliasfred> Piou2fois-fr: the 5min tells me it could be an issue of screenblanker. you may try to disable it to see if it changes something
[12:11] <aliasfred> Piou2fois-fr: nx machine is much faster and allow this
[12:12] <Piou2fois-fr> nxviewer and nxserver?
[12:12] <aliasfred> i dunno :)
[12:12] <baldi> morgen
[12:12] <aliasfred> i tried it once and it IS much faster. but im no expert at all :)
[12:12] <Piou2fois-fr> aliasfred, the freeze problem appear if for example i start firefox
[12:13] <Piou2fois-fr> aliasfred, do you think that screensaver can start if i use x11forwarding?
[12:13] <aliasfred> maybe
[12:14] <Piou2fois-fr> arf
[12:14] <aliasfred> it was just a deduction from the fixed time you reported
[12:14] <Piou2fois-fr> i will loof for disabling this
[12:14] <aliasfred> loof ?
[12:15] <Piou2fois-fr> look
[12:15] <Piou2fois-fr> !=
[12:15] <Piou2fois-fr> :)
[12:16] <aliasfred> ;
[12:16] <Piou2fois-fr> aliasfred, it seems that no screensaver is enabled
[12:16] <aliasfred> 0
[12:16] <aliasfred> so it was not that :)
[12:16] <JohnFlux> hey all
[12:16] <JohnFlux> i'm trying to compile mythtv, but it complains it can't find  -lmp3lame
[12:16] <JohnFlux> I have liblame0  installed
[12:17] <fdoving> JohnFlux: install liblame-dev
[12:17] <JohnFlux> when I try to install  liblame-dev    apt tells me it's replaced with liblame0
[12:17] <JohnFlux> Package liblame-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:17] <JohnFlux> However the following packages replace it:
[12:17] <JohnFlux>   liblame0
[12:17] <JohnFlux> it's x86_64 arch - so maybe that's why :/
[12:17] <fdoving> hum.. could be.
[12:18] <JohnFlux> dapper btw
[12:19] <fdoving> JohnFlux: liblame-dev is installable on my dapper system.
[12:19] <JohnFlux> fdoving: x86_64 ?
[12:19] <JohnFlux> fdoving: which repos please?  I'll just get it manually
[12:19] <fdoving> no, regular x86.
[12:19] <JohnFlux> uh
[12:19] <JohnFlux> you mean i386 ?
[12:19] <fdoving> liblame-dev |   3.96.1-1 | http://no.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[12:19] <JohnFlux> right
[12:20] <whatever> will "aptitude purge wine" do a complete uninstallation of wine?
[12:21] <JohnFlux> whatever: you'll probably want to remove  libwine as well
[12:21] <whatever> if not how do I do a complete uninstallation( including each and every setting
[12:22] <Jucato> whatever: it won't remove the hidden .wine directory in your home directory
[12:23] <whatever> so If I remove .wine libwine, then it wld be gone completely?
[12:24] <JohnFlux> whatever: i think so
[12:25] <Jucato> what "sudo aptitude purge --purge-unused wine" will do is to remove wine and whatever was installed with it presuming you installed it using aptitude. it will also remove the configuration files for these packages
[12:25] <Jucato> then you have to delete the ~/.wine directory to completely remove it
[12:25] <whatever> Jucato: K thanks a lot
[12:28] <jojo930> hi all
[12:39] <whatever> Is it possible to force aptitude/apt-get to  install old version of an app without editing sources?
[12:40] <whatever> old version being already downloaded or present in cds
[12:40] <Martijn81> whatever: might be with apt pinning, i never done it though
[12:40] <aliasfred> i dont remember the option but yes this is possible
[12:41] <aliasfred> you may look at the last xorg hickup for example
[12:41] <whatever> aliasfred: K  will try
[12:41] <whatever> hickup?
[12:41] <TheGateKeeper> where are all the deamons started on bootup please folks?
[12:42] <whatever> Jucato: removing .wine worked thanks again!
[12:42] <Jucato> whatever: no problem. glad I could help
[12:42] <whatever> TheGateKeeper: /etc/init.d
[12:42] <TheGateKeeper> thanx whatever :-)
[12:42] <aliasfred> A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by following the package name with an equals and the version of the package to select. This will cause that version to be located and selected for install. Alternatively a specific distribution can be selected by following the package name with a slash and the version of the distribution or the Archive name (stable, testing, unstable). <- from apt-get mane page, whatever
[12:42] <Jucato> heheh! that doesn't sound right... "thanks whatever..."
[12:43] <whatever> TheGateKeeper: or if you want to start your own ~/kde/Autostart/
[12:43] <aliasfred> whatever: some issue with a bogus package of xorg which produced issue so there are page explaining how to downgrade the package
[12:43] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: you could also use the System Service GUI if you need to. System Settings > System Services
[12:44] <whatever> aliasfred: Ok
[12:44] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: whatever I was just having a little play with Arch and wanted to see what kubuntu did :-)
[12:44] <Jucato> hehe
[12:45] <aliasfred> whatever: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 <- the command line to downgrabe
[12:45] <Jucato> aliasfred: would you know what the "1:" part means?
[12:45] <aliasfred> whatever: up to you to find out the version number of the version you want
[12:45] <Jucato> the version, AFAIK is just "1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[12:45] <aliasfred> Jucato: nope :)
[12:45] <Jucato> hehe
[12:46] <fdoving> Jucato: it's branch.
[12:46] <Jucato> fdoving: oh
[12:47] <fdoving> Jucato: kde is at 4:
[12:47] <Jucato> ok thanks! I was just curious :-D
[12:49] <bobbin> Hello? Is it possible to run apps without the GUI, so that dcop can be used to execute specific bits of it in the background?
[12:50] <Jucato> I think most GUI apps need X to run. unless they have an option to run without X, like VLC
[12:54] <aliasfred> bobbin: when you say 'without gui', you mean without opening the window or without launching X at all ?
[12:56] <bobbin> aliasfred: I mean from using a KDE app in KDE but without having the window come up. Specifically, to automate use of the titlebars' context menus' "To Desktop" entry.
[12:57] <Jucato> bobbin: you can use dcop even when  there's a GUI
[12:58] <RawSewage> whats the KDE window manager called
[12:58] <Jucato> KWin
[12:58] <RawSewage> ty
[12:58] <bobbin> Jucato: Yes, but I don't want to see the GUI or have it use CPU time to display; I just want the insides.
[12:59] <imbrandon> Jucato: the 1: is the epoc it will work either way
[12:59] <Jucato> well, basically you can't have KWin running without X, AFAIK
[12:59] <Australite``> hi every one
[12:59] <Jucato> imbrandon: ehehe! thanks!  I was wondering about that for some time :-D
[12:59] <aliasfred> bobbin: you likely can prevent the window to appears, as of not taking cpu it is another thing. for those specific question, you will likely find more help on #kde-devel
[12:59] <Australite``> i am back
[01:00] <Australite``> ok to install amsn do i have to have it on my computer ?
[01:00] <Australite``> any one here ?
[01:01] <aliasfred> Australite``: well to install a software implies to have it on your computer
[01:01] <bobbin> Jucato, aliasfred: X is running, it's just the one app I don't want to see. "dcop kwin" doesn't clue me in much from the command line. I'll try my luck on kde-devel then, too.
[01:01] <Australite``> aliasfred:  for some reason i cant install amn on my computer !!!
[01:01] <Jucato> bobbin: if you're looking for dcop commands, you can try using KDCOP
[01:02] <bobbin> Jucato: I tried. I didn't find what I think I need so then I asked in here. :)
[01:03] <Jucato> bobbin: you need a dcop command to make a window switch to a specific desktop?
[01:14] <jimmy_> how do i put home n trash icons on kubu desktop?
[01:15] <Jucato> jimmy_: right click on the desktop, choose Create New > Link to URL. then in the "Enter link to location (URL):" type in "trash:/" (without the quotes). give it a name, then click OK
[01:15] <jimmy_> Jucato: thx:) anyway to put home on desktop too?
[01:16] <Jucato> same procedure, this time, put "~/" instead of trash:/
[01:17] <bobbin> Jucato: yep
[01:19] <jimmy_> Jucato: thankies!
[01:20] <waylandbill> jimmy_: you may want the "system:/" link instead. Home, Trash, and others are accessible through there.
[01:20] <Jucato> :-D
[01:24] <Australite``> hi there i am back :)
[01:24] <jimmy_> waylandbill: dats already in the panel...but thx
[01:25] <waylandbill> jimmy_: not a problem.
[01:25] <jimmy_> i cant eject or unmount a cd from my dvd-rw drive.....it says "only root can unmount /media/hdd"???
[01:26] <lupine_> so prefix sudo before the eject command
[01:26] <Jucato> jimmy_: try right-clicking on the CD icon in Konqueror media:/
[01:26] <jimmy_> lupine_85: isnt there a way to just rightclick on it and click unmount/eject?
[01:27] <Jucato> jimmy_: there is. in the System Menu, choose Storage Media
[01:27] <lupine_85> usually, yes. How did you mount it to begin with?
[01:27] <Jucato> then right-click on the CD icon (it will usually be a gold CD), then select Eject
[01:27] <jimmy_> Jucato: same result dude
[01:27] <jimmy_> Jucato: i did that...it says the same thing..
[01:27] <Jucato> hmm
[01:27] <lupine_85> also, the relavant line in your fstab should look like this:- /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:27] <lupine_85> note the user
[01:28] <lupine_85> if root mounts it, only root can unmount it
[01:28] <lupine_85> if you mount it through konq., then it should be mounted as a user
[01:28] <lupine_85> ...meaning you can unmount it as a user, as well :)
[01:29] <jimmy_> i'll see if things get back to normal on restart...
[01:29] <the-erm> What's wrong?
[01:29] <the-erm> I just came in.
[01:30] <jimmy_> i cant eject or unmount a cd from my dvd-rw drive.....it says "only root can unmount /media/hdd"???
[01:31] <the-erm> oh well have you tried sudo eject -r
[01:31] <the-erm> I guess it would be sudo.
[01:31] <lupine_85> via the gui ;)
[01:31] <jimmy_> ya
[01:32] <longbean> jimmy_: how did it get mounted in the first place? or did you just put the CD in and it was available?
[01:32] <the-erm> I'm pretty sure you've tried right-clicking the desktop icon, and ejecting it that way.
[01:32] <amachu> jimmy_: sudo should work
[01:32] <jimmy_> longbean: i asked kde to open it in new window
[01:32] <jimmy_> the-erm: yes i did that!!
[01:32] <Martijn81> Jimmy: check if there's no konqueror opened at that location
[01:32] <the-erm> That's weird.
[01:32] <the-erm> :)
[01:33] <jimmy_> the-erm: i hope things will be ok on restart..?
[01:33] <longbean> jimmy_: it sounds like your /etc/fstab file isn't configured quite right
[01:33] <jimmy_> :(
[01:34] <jimmy_> lemme restart....:)
[01:34] <longbean> jimmy_: anyway, to get the CD out *now*, command line is probably your only option
[01:34] <jimmy_> longbean: thx...everyone else too:)
[01:35] <the-erm> In all honesty ... restart does seem like the only option.
[01:35] <longbean> what is this "i'll see if rebooting fixes things" attitude? this isn't Microsoft
[01:35] <the-erm> Sometimes ....
[01:36] <the-erm> I've never really had a problem with ejecting myself.
[01:36] <Jucato> how about manually unmounting the partition, modifying the fstab entry, the mounting it again?
[01:36] <longbean> the command line option would've worked
[01:36] <the-erm> Usually it's a right click.
[01:36] <longbean> i think he was just scared to go there
[01:37] <the-erm> If it were a cd, I don't see any damage in doing that Jucato
[01:37] <the-erm> I can see it being a problem if you're using an actual partition.
[01:37] <the-erm> Then you would need to reboot ...
[01:37] <the-erm> Unless it wasn't being used.
[01:38] <the-erm> In all honesty I don't do enough with the fstab to be rated much more than a beginner.
[01:48] <arkygeek> hi all
[01:49] <fabian2de> hey guys... does anybody know, where to get gstreamer0.10-plugins-mad for kubuntu 6.10? I cannot find it in any repository
[01:50] <Jucato> fabian2de: 6.10? you're using Edgy?
[01:50] <Jucato> fabian2de: it will probably be where it always is: multiverse
[01:51] <fabian2de> Jucato: sorry, I meant 6.06
[01:52] <Jucato> fabian2de: i can't seem to see a "mad" plugin. what are you trying to do, btw?
[01:52] <vampiertje> hi
[01:53] <vampiertje> can somebody help me in kubuntu?
[01:53] <vampiertje> i download it and it comes in in 15 min
[01:53] <fabian2de> Jucato: I try to install amarok with moodbar support and therefor I need gstreamer including mp3-support... and in the amarokchannel was said to me, that I need gstreamer0.10-plugins-mad to do so
[01:53] <vampiertje> can somebody tells me what i must do to install something?
[01:54] <Jucato> fabian2de: I don't think we have that package. did you tell them that amarok uses xine in Kubuntu, not GStreamer?
[01:55] <fabian2de> well, amarok may use what it want to use, but the moodbar executable need gestreamer
[01:55] <longbean> vampiertje: install what? a program? the actual kubuntu system?
[01:55] <vampiertje> yep
[01:55] <vampiertje> i used ubuntu once
[01:55] <vampiertje> but
[01:56] <vampiertje> that was a mess
[01:56] <vampiertje> and i want to try kubuntu now
[01:56] <vampiertje> coose my win98 is lagging
[01:56] <longbean> vampiertje: what was the problem with ubuntu?
[01:56] <vampiertje> um
[01:57] <vampiertje> i didnt installed everything cooze it every times asked for a su
[01:57] <vampiertje> anything*
[01:57] <the-erm> It's also getting harder to get software to work in 98.
[01:57] <the-erm> M$ doesn't support it any more.
[01:57] <vampiertje> and my grub loader was stuck
[01:57] <vampiertje> when it was starting after install it didnt moved anything
[01:58] <the-erm> So you had to manually select what os you wanted tor un?
[01:58] <longbean> vampiertje: kubuntu's set up to use "su" as well
[01:59] <vampiertje> nice, but ubuntu dont uses a su or am i wrong
[01:59] <the-erm> well ... what you can do is sudo su passwd
[01:59] <the-erm> and then change it.
[01:59] <vampiertje> but whats a sudo
[01:59] <the-erm> run as root.
[01:59] <vampiertje> umm
[01:59] <vampiertje> can you explain it
[01:59] <waylandbill> actually Kubuntu is set up to use sudo. You can't su to root until you set the root password.
[01:59] <fdoving> !sudo
[01:59] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:00] <vampiertje> ok
[02:00] <vampiertje> so i need to set a root pass
[02:00] <vampiertje> brb
[02:00] <the-erm> yes via sudo
[02:00] <vampiertje> ok
[02:00] <vampiertje> i will try it
[02:00] <vampiertje> ty
[02:00] <vampiertje> brb
[02:00] <aliasfred> what is the window name for  'root/superuser' ? 'administrator' ?
[02:01] <the-erm> I think it can be anyone in xp.  Just have them flagged as an admin when you create their account.
[02:01] <the-erm> But I don't run xp.
[02:01] <aliasfred> ok
[02:03] <longbean> has anyone tried to upgrade to Amarok1.4.2 on dapper yet? any gotchas I should look out for?
[02:05] <the-erm> sorry I don't run amarok
[02:06] <ubuntu> hi
[02:06] <the-erm> hi
[02:14] <Martijn81> oh boy, now my sound is f_cked
[02:15] <Martijn81> thank you vmware!
[02:16] <lupine_85> longbean: it switches to xine for plugins. that's it, really
[02:17] <longbean> lupine_85: thanks. i'll fight through that somehow :P
[02:17] <lupine_85> lol
[02:17] <lupine_85> it's really good, actually. even installs needed plugins automagically
[02:17] <redondo81> Hi guys, I have a problem with firefox and jre,I installed jre but firefox doesn't see it,it ask me to install plugins, how can I do to configure it?
[02:18] <lupine_85> just put the .so file into the firefox plugins directory
[02:18] <lupine_85> IIRC, java installs into mozilla, where firefox doesn't see it
[02:18] <redondo81> and where I can find the .so file?
[02:19] <lupine_85> not sure -  I don't have it installed
[02:20] <lupine_85> probably /usr/lib/mozilla or something similar
[02:20] <redondo81> I search it
[02:20] <lupine_85> it needs to be in either ~/.firefox/plugins or /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:20] <Martijn81> anyone have an idea what this "watter sound" and lower volume can be after installation of vmware? (i have removed it already, but the horror is still present)
[02:27] <redondo81> I have 2 folder one called /mozilla-firefox and one /firefox, but I cannot find another folder with only mozilla
[02:28] <redondo81> I dont know how to find the .so file to put in the firefox folder
[02:29] <longbean> redondo81: you're looking under /usr/lib?
[02:30] <redondo81> yes and I have 2 folder ona called /mozilla-firefox and one /firefox only
[02:30] <redondo81> they seem to be the same
[02:30] <RawSewage> it's  .mozilla
[02:30] <RawSewage> in home folder
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> man, I've got the worst luck getting storage devices to work with firewire.
[02:31] <RawSewage>  /.mozilla
[02:31] <RawSewage> whats a .so file
[02:32] <redondo81> there isnt a mozilla folder in my home
[02:32] <RawSewage> ?
[02:32] <RawSewage> .mozilla
[02:32] <RawSewage> dot mozilla
[02:32] <redondo81> a .so file is the file to install the plugins in firefox
[02:32] <RawSewage> it's hidden
[02:32] <redondo81> how can I do to visualize it?
[02:33] <RawSewage> alt+ v+ h
[02:33] <redondo81> ok ok, I find it
[02:33] <redondo81> and now what do I have to do?
[02:33] <RawSewage> but
[02:33] <RawSewage> why are you doing it that way
[02:33] <RawSewage> you install plugins thru FF itself
[02:33] <longbean> RawSewage: java plugin. slightly more complex
[02:34] <RawSewage> oh
[02:34] <redondo81> I install jre, but firefox doesn't see it, it ask me to download the plugins
[02:34] <RawSewage> you dont do what youre doing
[02:34] <RawSewage> Ive done Java with FF before, and I never opened the FF folders
[02:34] <RawSewage> just a second
[02:35] <longbean> redondo81: copy it to the folder /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:35] <longbean> redondo81: you'll have to use sudo to do it
[02:35] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[02:35] <RawSewage> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:35] <RawSewage> do those 2 lines
[02:36] <longbean> RawSewage: he's nearly there through this method i think
[02:36] <RawSewage> ok
[02:36] <redondo81> ok, I try the RawSewage trick
[02:36] <longbean> too many different ways of doing exactly the same things sometimes
[02:36] <RawSewage> thats what Linux is all about
[02:36] <RawSewage> Choice
[02:36] <RawSewage> lol
[02:37] <RawSewage> I dont think he has the correct version of Java
[02:37] <RawSewage> maybe
[02:37] <longbean> informed choice is good
[02:37] <RawSewage> I dont know
[02:37] <RawSewage> I hate Java
[02:37] <RawSewage> I think it harkens back to the days when it killed my computer
[02:37] <RawSewage> back in the 90s
[02:38] <longbean> java's way overrated imho. but it has its uses
[02:38] <RawSewage> it slowed my computer and I'd always have to reboot when encountering a page with Java
[02:38] <redondo81> great, all works now, thank you very much
[02:38] <RawSewage> good
[02:38] <RawSewage> boomakr this page
[02:38] <RawSewage> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[02:39] <RawSewage> I need to learn Python
[02:39] <longbean> the java fanboys say that JVM speeds have increased considerably in the latest releases
[02:39] <RawSewage> people seem to love that language
[02:39] <turjan> hi
[02:39] <RawSewage> it will speed up even more once it's open source
[02:39] <longbean> i'm not much of a programmer.
[02:40] <turjan> excuse me, why will be the jvm faster when it becomes OpenSource?
[02:41] <redondo81> Remain only a small problem, the applet is not completly visualize because appears yet the firefor request to install the java plugins
[02:41] <redondo81> no no, i reloaded the page and now work perfectl
[02:41] <longbean> redondo81: good
[02:41] <RawSewage> turjan, because users and the whole world will be able to work on the code
[02:41] <RawSewage> not just a handful of paid employees
[02:42] <RawSewage> imo
[02:42] <RawSewage> that my theory
[02:42] <redondo81> I wanted to visualize the formula1 applet to see the qualification time live :)
[02:42] <redondo81> I'm a fan of Ferrari:)
[02:43] <turjan> rawsewage, the code is available since 2003 or so. The license is not called open source because it does not permit call java any derivative work
[02:43] <RawSewage> oh
[02:43] <RawSewage> it will be soon though, right
[02:44] <longbean> Sun is lukewarm on open source
[02:45] <RawSewage> lol  Sun is lukewarm
[02:45] <longbean> :P
[02:45] <turjan> XD
[02:45] <RawSewage> sorry I just woke up
[02:48] <lupine_85> java--;
[02:48] <bugunu_> hi, does anyone know how to fix 'nv' driver for X so it won't snow ? :)
[02:49] <lupine_85> use the 'nvidia' one instead?
[02:49] <lupine_85> or 'vesa'
[02:50] <bugunu_> well err, for some reason even though nvidia-glx is installed as a package, it won't load
[02:50] <bugunu_> sudo modprobe nvidia => FATAL: Module nvidia not found. (not even this, not X either)
[02:51] <lupine_85> I think you need to install the appropriate linux-restricted-modules package as well?
[02:51] <longbean> no nvidia kernel driver? odd. but should be installlable easily enough
[02:51] <lupine_85> nvidia-glx is the programs, IIRC
[02:51] <bugunu_> lupine_85: that's installed too
[02:51] <longbean> installable even
[02:51] <bugunu_> i did run nvidia-glx-config to modif xorg.conf
[02:52] <lupine_85> have you ran depmod -a and ldconfig ?
[02:52] <bugunu_> longbean: how to install nvidia kernel driver? :)
[02:52] <Dannilion> arg, I've lost all sound for Amarok again
[02:52] <bugunu_> lupine_85:  depmod -a yes but not yet ldconfig; doing it now
[02:52] <longbean> bugunu_: i don't remember the package-name offhand...
[02:52] <lupine_85> and is the .ko file actually present? (find /lib -name nvidia.ko)
[02:53] <bugunu_> lupine_85: it is not :D
[02:53] <lupine_85> (I get /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko but I'm not running a bog-standard Ubuntu ;) )
[02:53] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[02:53] <RawSewage> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:53] <bugunu_> wait, it is /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko
[02:53] <lupine_85> ok, try "sudo insmod  /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko"
[02:54] <RawSewage> I just told you
[02:54] <bugunu_> RawSewage: have all that thank you ;)
[02:54] <RawSewage> ok
[02:54] <lupine_85> !nvidia-kernel-common
[02:54] <ubotu> nvidia-kernel-common: NVIDIA binary kernel module common files. In component restricted, is optional. Version 20051028+1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 112 kB
[02:54] <bugunu_> Invalid module format
[02:54] <lupine_85> *another* repository?
[02:54] <RawSewage> are you sure you did exactly what I posted
[02:54] <bugunu_> oh yeah, btw, that kernel is the previous version :-"
[02:54] <lupine_85> :D
[02:54] <RawSewage> because thats how you do it
[02:55] <bugunu_> RawSewage: pretty sure yes
[02:55] <longbean> bugunu_: bingo. upgrade your modules i think
[02:55] <RawSewage> ...
[02:55] <bugunu_> RawSewage: I even did them again when u said it
[02:55] <RawSewage> copied and pasted?
[02:55] <bugunu_> longbean: ok, i'll try update then upgrade
[02:55] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[02:55] <RawSewage> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:55] <matrix> hi guys
[02:56] <RawSewage> after you do that, you have to change  'nv' in xorg.conf to 'nvidia'
[02:56] <bugunu_> longbean: hmm, nothing upgraded
[02:56] <lupine_85> RS: yes
[02:56] <RawSewage> and maybe reboot
[02:56] <lupine_85> d'oh, sorry
[02:56] <longbean> bugunu_: what kernel version are you running and what kernel version is that nvidia module for?
[02:56] <lupine_85> no need to reboot, though
[02:56] <bugunu_> RawSewage: yes, copy/pasted :) ie. first cmd already had them installed, and second one i guess modified xorg.conf but said nothing
[02:57] <matrix> i have installed the openoffice language pack but still i can't get use the german dictonary. is this the correct package? or does oo use ispel dicts?
[02:57] <lupine_85> ok, just depmod again, then try to modprobe nvidia
[02:57] <lupine_85> if that works, you can ctrl+alt+bkspace
[02:57] <lupine_85> (assuming you're running these commands in an x terminal, of course)
[02:58] <bugunu_> RawSewage: yes, it is nvidia in xorg.conf but X says smth about nvidia module not found aborting on several lines
[02:58] <RawSewage> reboot
[02:58] <RawSewage> it's a kernel
[02:58] <RawSewage> dont kernels require reboot
[02:58] <bugunu_> longbean: Linux asystem 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT
[02:59] <lupine_85> it's just a kernel module
[02:59] <RawSewage> oh
[02:59] <lupine_85> you can load and unload them into a running kernel no problems
[02:59] <Jucato> (was the porper linux-restricted-modules installed?)
[02:59] <RawSewage> ok
[02:59] <lupine_85> but with ubuntu, rebooting is easier than shutting down the x server
[02:59] <lupine_85> :/
[02:59] <RawSewage> why
[02:59] <lupine_85> 'cos it annoyingly restarts itself
[02:59] <matrix> is there a default keyboard shortcut in kde to switch to the desktop and back?
[03:00] <lupine_85> back to where?
[03:00] <Jucato> virtual desktops?
[03:00] <RawSewage> no, to show the desktop
[03:00] <bugunu_> RawSewage: apparently nvidia-glx doesn't install any file in /lib/modules... nvidia.ko one - nope
[03:00] <matrix> no to my desktop, like when you click the symbol for your desktop but without using the mouse
[03:00] <Jucato> aah
[03:00] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+D
[03:00] <lupine_85> can you assign a hotkey to the applet?
[03:01] <RawSewage> Jucato, cool
[03:01] <lupine_85> or that works :)
[03:01] <matrix> oh great thanks
[03:01] <Jucato> eheheh
[03:01] <RawSewage> I wanted to know that too
[03:01] <bugunu_> RawSewage: well not if it's just a module installed;hmm maybe i should just reinstall my current kernel(+modules)
[03:01] <matrix> is there a list with default shortcut in kde ?
[03:01] <matrix> +s
[03:01] <RawSewage> bugunu_, oh well dont listen to me
[03:01] <RawSewage> Im new
[03:02] <kraut> how do i unlock the screen of a locked liveinstall desktop?
[03:02] <Jucato> matrix: yep. System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:02] <bugunu_> RawSewage: np, im new too ;) who isn't :D let's party lolz
[03:02] <lupine_85> something is missing. I'm certain that the nvidia.ko module should be in linux-restricted-modules
[03:03] <Jucato> matrix: but whatever you do, DO NOT click on the Command Shortcuts tab there... it's gonna make System Settings crash
[03:03] <bugunu_> lupine_85: i've even reinstalled linux-restricted-modules
[03:03] <lupine_85> it's not in nvidia-kernel-common or nvidia-glx
[03:03] <longbean> hunh. my system says that nvidiafb.ko is a part of the linux-image package.
[03:03] <lupine_85> you don't want that ;)
[03:03] <lupine_85> it conflicts with nvidia's driver
[03:03] <Jucato> make sure that the version of linux-restricted-modules matches the linux-image version
[03:03] <lupine_85> source of extreme anguish
[03:04] <RawSewage> bugunu_, lol
[03:04] <lupine_85> mm, you might only have the -23 version installed
[03:04] <bugunu_> lupine_85: oh wait, i have it now :-" the linux-restricted-modules for kernel 2.6.15-23 were installed automaticly but not for 2.6.15-26 which i'm using; my bad i guess
[03:04] <lupine_85> :)
[03:04] <utab> hey guys how to view WMV files, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs says it works for all except wmv
[03:04] <matrix> Jucato: atleast switching forth and back between the command shortcuts tab and the shortcut schemes tab doesn't break anything here
[03:04] <bugunu_> lupine_85: thanks ;)
[03:04] <Jazon> is it unusual for my ram to be at about 40% and my swap also around 300mb???  I have over a gig of ram
[03:05] <larson9999> hmmm, i'm using thunderbird and noticed something that seems to not work the way you'd want.  i created an email and tried to send it all while i was disconnected from the net.  i got an error message that the email couldn't be sent but the email itself seems to have disappeared.  does that sound right or am i on crack?
[03:05] <Jucato> matrix: ehehe yeah.. buggy ain't it?
[03:05] <lupine_85> utab: w32codecs works for all except encrypted (and wmv9?) files
[03:05] <bugunu_> and sorry (all) for all the trouble - one problem solved ;)
[03:05] <matrix> Jucato: i can't see any bug here. but i don't want to stress it either :)
[03:05] <lupine_85> larson9999: Is it in your Sent? Drafts?
[03:05] <utab> lupine_85 how to get them
[03:05] <yannux> hye everybody
[03:05] <longbean> bugunu_: np, it was educational
[03:05] <lupine_85> use the plf repos
[03:05] <yannux> does anyone already setup pureftpd with postgresql ?
[03:05] <lupine_85> be aware that if you're in the US then you'll be doing something illegal ;)
[03:06] <larson9999> bugunu_: the .26 version is in another repository.
[03:06] <Jucato> bugunu_: to be able to install the -26 linux-restricted-modules, make sure that the "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main" has "restricted" included
[03:06] <utab> lupine_85 they are not supported and may break the system or once happended to me
[03:06] <matrix> so now i need to figure out how i can make use of my additional dictionaries in oo. i have installed german, ispell, aspell and the german language pack for oo but can't choose the dictonary when i use spellcheck.
[03:06] <vampiertje> hi
[03:06] <vampiertje> done
[03:06] <matrix> has anybody setup different dicts in oo before?
[03:06] <vampiertje> ive got kubuntu now
[03:07] <matrix> vampiertje: grats, have fun with it
[03:07] <larson9999> Jucato: i wonder why that isn't spelled out more prominately?  it seems to be the number 1 reason kernel upgrades with nvidia cards "don't work"
[03:08] <Jucato> larson9999: I think it is fixed in the 6.06.1 installers. I'm not sure though. So far, no one has been able to give me an answer to that same  question
[03:08] <Jucato> other than a possible error/bug
[03:08] <lupine_85> suppose .deb isn't smart enough to realise that updating linux-image to -26 means that you need to update linux-restricted-modules to -26 as well, if installed
[03:08] <Jucato> utab: just download the w32codec .deb file from here: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/
[03:08] <lupine_85> conditional dependencies--
[03:09] <Jucato> lupine_85: actually that's not the problem.
[03:09] <lupine_85> so what is?
[03:09] <larson9999> yeah, but it would seem that even in the 'help places' it would be spelled out more.
[03:09] <Jucato> lupine_85: the problem is that the newer linux-image resides in the main section of dapper-security. while the newer linux-restricted-modules reside in the restricted section of dapper-security
[03:09] <lupine_85> ah, got you
[03:10] <lupine_85> and of course, dapper-security restricted isnt' enabled by default
[03:10] <Jucato> it seems so, at least in the 6.06 installers
[03:10] <Jucato> but restricted is not only not enabled, it's also not in the sources.list
[03:10] <larson9999> Jucato: yeah but lupine_85 is correct too because if that dependency were set, you'd get an error message that the other stuff couldn't be installed because one of the packages couldn't be installed
[03:11] <Jucato> larson9999: but linux-image is not dependent on linux-restricted-modules, is it?
[03:12] <josh__> whats up people? got a problem with my network config ( i think). i cant traceroute anything
[03:12] <larson9999> Jucato: right.  but i thought that's what lupine_85 was saying that maybe it should be if you have  linux-restricted-modules installed.  that kinda dependency seems hard to deal with though
[03:12] <josh__> i just tried from the windows side and it works fine
[03:12] <josh__> my iptables are set to accept, my router doesn't block icmp
[03:13] <josh__> i dont know where to start looking for the trouble... any ideas?
[03:13] <Jucato> larson9999: it would work only if linux-image was dependent on linux-restricted modules. if that were the case, the package manager would detect that one of the dependencies (linux-restricted-modules) does not match the package being upgraded (linux-image).
[03:14] <lupine_85>  larson9999: i was mistaken. If dapper-security restricted was enabled by default, apt would pick up the update to linux-restricted at the same time as it picked u pthe update to linux-image
[03:14] <lupine_85> hence, conditional dependency not required
[03:15] <josh__> any ideas?
[03:15] <larson9999> Jucato: right and that seems like something you wouldn't want to do but if the conditional dependency could be set up it would catch this, too.
[03:15] <Jucato> It just might be the reason why some recommend that you install the linux-<insert architecture here) meta-package instead
[03:15] <larson9999> lupine_85: but i don't think security will every be enabled by default.  isn't that the reason it's called 'security'?
[03:16] <aliasfred> josh__: window on the same box does traceroute ok ?
[03:16] <lupine_85> ...
[03:16] <srdjant> what's this in /topic about broken X?
[03:16] <josh__> yep
[03:16] <lupine_85> security *should* be enabled by default
[03:16] <larson9999> anyway, it just seems to me that when the upgrade fails and you go searching for why, this reason doesn't POP out in the search results like it would seem like it should
[03:17] <aliasfred> josh__: 'iptables -L' gives you some results ?
[03:17] <lupine_85> srdjant: update to xorg-xserver-core-10.3 (or something like that) broke X
[03:17] <lupine_85> 10.4 (the current) fixed it
[03:17] <Jucato> larson9999: I try to mention it as much as I can in the forums
[03:17] <larson9999> lupine_85: oh, i got it backwards? i thought security was for things that weren't safe.
[03:17] <josh__> yeah, all accepted
[03:17] <srdjant> lupine_85: thanks.
[03:17] <longbean> josh__: does "traceroute -I" work?
[03:17] <lupine_85> security is patches to fix unsafe things :)
[03:17] <Jucato> and I think that the new installers have already been fixed
[03:17] <josh__> and i dont have a firewall (firestarter) or anything else
[03:17] <aliasfred> josh__: you mean you got a firewall ?
[03:17] <aliasfred> ah ok
[03:17] <larson9999> lupine_85: there i go getting things backwards again
[03:18] <josh__> traceroute -l doesn't work either
[03:18] <srdjant> also why does /etc/sudoers have root    ALL=(ALL) ALL ? I read in linux format that this is a bit insecure...
[03:18] <josh__> no, i have no firewall installed
[03:18] <aliasfred> josh__: hmm 'traceroute -n google.com'
[03:18] <josh__> i tried traceroute -n www.yahoo.com
[03:19] <aliasfred> and ?
[03:19] <ubuntu> hi all
[03:19] <josh__> nothing happened (by nothing i mean everything timed out * * *)
[03:19] <Jucato> larson9999: I think this is just a pure human error. I do not recall seeing this in Breezy
[03:19] <aliasfred> hmm real weird
[03:19] <whizz-> when i updated xserver-xorg-core a few days back, i couldn't boot into the gui anymore... has this issue been resolved already?
[03:19] <josh__> yeah, confusing me too
[03:19] <Jucato> whizz-: yes
[03:19] <aliasfred> josh__: 'traceroute localhost'
[03:19] <whizz-> Jucato: ok, thx
[03:19] <josh__> i cant think of anything that would block me off the top of my head :(
[03:19] <Jucato> the latest xserver-xorg-core upgrade should be the fixed package
[03:19] <larson9999> Jucato: that makes sense because if that's where the security fixes go, you'd want it enabled by default for sure.
[03:19] <josh__> that worked
[03:20] <darkdevil> http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[03:20] <josh__> traceroute localhost provided a response...
[03:20] <aliasfred> josh__: ok now try the first router you got. like asdl modem or such
[03:20] <vampiertje> pompidom
[03:20] <vampiertje> it works!
[03:20] <ubuntu> How can i change the language (menu etc( of kubuntu
[03:20] <vampiertje> but now its time to set an sudo
[03:20] <josh__> cable
[03:20] <srdjant> what's new in xserver-xorg-core 10.4?
[03:20] <Jucato> larson9999: yes. except that if you install without an active/enable internet connection, all repositories are disable by default. But again, the issue wasn't really about dapper-security being disabled, but about the missing "restricted" component in that line.
[03:20] <josh__> traced to router
[03:20] <aliasfred> josh__: ok you got its ip ? you can get it from 'ip route'
[03:21] <Jucato> srdjant: yes
[03:21] <Mick7> hello
[03:21] <josh__> yeah it made it to the router
[03:21] <Jucato> 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[03:21] <Mick7> excuse me..opensuse exist also for amd64?
[03:21] <aliasfred> josh__: hmm but nothing beyond this router ?
[03:21] <josh__> apparantly
[03:21] <srdjant> Jucato: 'yes' in response to which question?
[03:21] <josh__> lol
[03:21] <josh__> which is odd i think
[03:22] <aliasfred> josh__: but window works from the same box
[03:22] <josh__> because windows sucks but it can get out fine... :(
[03:22] <aliasfred> josh__: am lost :)
[03:22] <longbean> ubuntu: there should be a "regional and accessibility" section in the control panel
[03:22] <Jucato> srdjant: lol. sorry. I was meant to say xserver-xorg-core version 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[03:22] <aliasfred> josh__: all i can see if window doing upnp to the router
[03:22] <aliasfred> josh__: but i would be surprised :)
[03:22] <srdjant> Jucato: I was asking what's new in that version.....
[03:22] <Mick7> opensuse for amd64????
[03:23] <Jucato> ooh
[03:23] <Jucato> sorry
[03:23] <srdjant> :)
[03:23] <darkdevil> Mick7: have you tried joining #suse or #opensuse and asking there?
[03:23] <srdjant> Mick7: what's opensuse got to do with this channel?
[03:23] <Jucato> ehehe
[03:23] <Mick7> no no excuse me
[03:23] <Mick7> i want to say
[03:23] <Mick7> openoffice :)
[03:23] <Mick7> openoffice for amd64?
[03:24] <srdjant> you could compile it :P
[03:24] <josh__> :(
[03:24] <darkdevil> lol, takes forever, but u cud
[03:25] <josh__> what port does traceroute use?
[03:25] <josh__> 77?
[03:26] <darkdevil> outbound port? not a clue
[03:26] <josh__> well it wouldn't matter anyway cuz im the dmz
[03:27] <lupine_85> depends on the traceroute :)
[03:27] <lupine_85> have you tried tcptraceroute?
[03:27] <lupine_85> is normal internet working?
[03:27] <josh__> yes
[03:27] <longbean> manpage for traceroute says the default base port is UDP port 33434. you can change it with "-p"
[03:27] <lupine_85> OK, the problem then is likely that *nix and windows uses different traceroute methods
[03:28] <lupine_85> you can have UDP, ICMP OR TCP
[03:28] <lupine_85> Your router could well be dropping ICMP (many do) by defaulty
[03:28] <lupine_85> default*
[03:28] <josh__> im actually ssh'ed to my home computer and from home back to here...
[03:28] <lupine_85> fun :)
[03:28] <josh__> really... hmm... lemme check the router settings one more time
[03:28] <lupine_85> try installing tcptraceroute and doing a trace with that
[03:29] <srdjant> doesn't traceroute use ICMP by default
[03:29] <srdjant> ?
[03:29] <lupine_85> not sure
[03:29] <lupine_85> but if it does, that's likely the problem
[03:29] <josh__> tcptraceroute dont work either...
[03:30] <longbean> traceroute sends out UDP packets with a ttl designed to return an "ICMP error exceeded" error message from hosts
[03:30] <Jucato> does anyone here know if Konversation truncates it's chat logs after a certain time/amount?
[03:30] <aliasfred> if it works with window on the same box, the router conf is find
[03:30] <aliasfred> fine
[03:30] <longbean> that's the linux default anyway
[03:30] <srdjant> oh wait, I think I was wrong - it just changes the TTL and then waits for the ICMP messages back from routers and gateways.
[03:31] <lupine_85> ok, windows is ICMP, linux is UDP (by default)
[03:31] <lupine_85> which is opposite to what I was thinking
[03:31] <josh__> but my router doesn't block udp
[03:31] <josh__> andi am set as dmzhost
[03:31] <aliasfred> josh__: does ping works ok ?
[03:31] <josh__> it blocks nothing to my comp
[03:31] <josh__> yes ping works fine
[03:32] <josh__> ok linux uses udp...?
[03:32] <lupine_85> yes
[03:32] <josh__> i thought udp was for multicast
[03:32] <lupine_85> no :)
[03:32] <lupine_85> udp is an alternative to tcp
[03:32] <josh__> or broadcasting rather
[03:32] <lupine_85> they both run over ip
[03:32] <lupine_85> udp is stateless, tcp isn't
[03:33] <srdjant> udp can do broadcast
[03:33] <aliasfred> udp is the most mistunderstood protocol, even if it is so trivial :)
[03:33] <josh__> yeah but i was under the inpression that udp doesn't need responses.... it just sends..?
[03:33] <lupine_85> so can tcp
[03:33] <josh__> impression
[03:33] <lupine_85> josh: yes
[03:33] <lupine_85> there's no guarantee of a response
[03:34] <lupine_85> do you want me to try and traceroute the box?
[03:34] <lupine_85> or is the IP a secret? ;)
[03:34] <gareth> hi
[03:34] <josh__> lol well i would rather not braodcast it in here... lemme register real quick
[03:34] <gareth> Wondering if anyone can help me work out something about katapult?
[03:34] <lupine_85> k
[03:34] <josh__> how do i do that again? lol its been a few years
[03:34] <Jucato> gareth: what about it?
[03:35] <Jucato> josh__: /msg nickserv register ?
[03:35] <josh__> thanks :)
[03:35] <gareth> It's supposed to be able to launch a song in amarok, but when i try it i get this error from amarok "
[03:35] <gareth> Error Loading Media
[03:35] <gareth> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported.
[03:35] <gareth> ./home/gareth/Music/Avenged Sevenfold - (2003) - Waking The Fallen/12-avenged_sevenfold-and_all_things_will_end-ph.mp3
[03:35] <josh__> how do i change my name?
[03:35] <lupine_85>   /nick
[03:36] <j2daosh> there we go
[03:36] <Jucato> gareth: can you play MP3's normally, in Amarok, for example?
[03:36] <GarethMB> Yes
[03:37] <j2daosh> amarok needs mp3 support
[03:37] <Jucato> GarethMB: does this only happen to this particular song? or any MP3?
[03:37] <GarethMB> any mp3,
[03:37] <GarethMB> but only when i use katapult
[03:37] <Jucato> hmm...
[03:37] <GarethMB> i believe the problem is:
[03:37] <j2daosh> i use xms (winamp for linux) :)
[03:37] <Jucato> let me try
[03:37] <j2daosh> xmms
[03:37] <GarethMB> the url is exported with a . before it. which amarok can't handle. Could this be the case?
[03:38] <Jucato> GarethMB: that . shouldn't be there at all
[03:38] <GarethMB> Ok, i thought as much
[03:38] <GarethMB> is there a way to tell katapult not to export the url with the ./home
[03:38] <Jucato> but.. it also doesn't seem to work here
[03:38] <Jucato> hmm..
[03:39] <GarethMB> ^^
[03:39] <needanickname> is git available in kubuntu?
[03:39] <aliasfred> can you cut/paste the url that amarok receive in this case, GarethMB
[03:39] <GarethMB> sure
[03:40] <GarethMB> ./home/gareth/Music/B/Black Label Society/Mafia/15 - I Never Dreamed(Bonus Track).mp3
[03:40] <aliasfred> well this is a bug :)
[03:40] <Jucato> yep definitely a bug
[03:40] <aliasfred> in katapult i mean, as it depends on the current directory of the application
[03:40] <GarethMB> Hmm, guess i need to check the kde bugzilla?
[03:40] <aliasfred> yep a bug in katapult
[03:41] <CVirus> whats katapult
[03:41] <CVirus> ?
[03:41] <Jucato> !katapult
[03:41] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:42] <aliasfred> or maybe amarok add this . in its dcop stuff
[03:42] <GarethMB> it can launch bookmarks, and it should launch music
[03:42] <Jucato> probably not amarok, coz it only accepts what Katapult would be throwing at it
[03:43] <CVirus> OMG ... katapult is freakin great
[03:43] <CVirus> oops
[03:43] <GarethMB> it would be even better without this bug lol
[03:43] <SeanTater> I cannot mount my camera: it says A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")
[03:44] <GarethMB> http://bugs.kde.org/simple_search.cgi?id=katapult , here are the katapult bugs. Can someone check that its definitely not been reported before
[03:44] <vampiertje> oh no
[03:44] <ninHer> hi all
[03:44] <vampiertje> i stucked my adept
[03:44] <vampiertje> does anyone knows how to reset adept?
[03:46] <lupine_85> reset?
[03:46] <Jucato> vampiertje: what were you trying to do and what happened?
[03:46] <lupine_85> as in, kill the process?
[03:46] <lupine_85> or as in, reset the database
[03:47] <vampiertje> well
[03:47] <lupine_85> (the former is 'sudo killall adept', the latter is - rightly - impossible)
[03:47] <vampiertje> i tried to add /home/wouter to adept
[03:47] <vampiertje> and then it crashed
[03:48] <j2daosh> what is /home/wouter?
[03:48] <vampiertje> thats a map in my pc
[03:48] <lupine_85> malformed repository? assuming that's what wouter is
[03:48] <lupine_85> adept really dislikes malformed repos
[03:49] <GarethMB> You need to edit your sources file
[03:49] <CVirus> can katapult launch any file on my hard disk ? or mp3's only ?
[03:50] <GarethMB> vampiertje sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <GarethMB> and then delete the repository you added
[03:50] <Jucato> CVirus: it has 5 catalogs to search from, AFAIK: Programs, Amarok, Documents, BOokmarks, and Calculator
[03:50] <GarethMB> make a backup first!
[03:51] <Martijn81> i thought it would be fun to let you know what solved my "under water sound" problem after the install of vmware
[03:51] <Martijn81> i unplugged the mic of my sennheiser out of the pc, and all is fine again
[03:52] <Martijn81> really weird, never had that
[03:52] <GarethMB> so this katapult bug, is this a good idea for a name for it: Katapult exports URL to Amarok with a period preceeding URL ?
[03:52] <roboso> but there aren't italian chan????
[03:53] <aliasfred> !it
[03:53] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:53] <roboso> ok thanks!
[03:53] <aliasfred> GarethMB: 'katapult exporting malformed url to amarok' ?
[04:00] <duncan_> hello wguys!
[04:00] <duncan_> guys!
[04:00] <duncan_> a question for all of you
[04:00] <duncan_> where can I change my mouse speed?
[04:00] <lupine_85> kcontrol ?
[04:01] <duncan_> thx lupine!
[04:01] <lupine_85> "Pointer acceleration" is what you want
[04:01] <duncan_> kcontrol
[04:01] <lupine_85> aka. the control panel
[04:01] <duncan_> where can I find that =(
[04:01] <duncan_> aaaah ok
[04:01] <duncan_> xD
[04:02] <duncan_> system settings you mean
[04:02] <lupine_85> old habits die hard, etc :)
[04:02] <lupine_85> yes
[04:02] <lupine_85> then hardware->mouse->advanced
[04:02] <duncan_> ok ok :)
[04:02] <duncan_> got it
[04:03] <misieq> pgadmin3 sez that my postgresql server (8.1.4, running on kubuntu) lacks instrumentation, what package contains that? i've read description of postgresql-contrib-8.1 but it ain't there
[04:03] <GarethMB> Here is the katapult bug report. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133030 if you to vote for it.
[04:03] <duncan_> but everything is so big on
[04:03] <duncan_> wtf can't use key pada nymore:s
[04:03] <duncan_> numlock is on
[04:04] <duncan_> 1024x768 , everything is so big in comparisson with microsoft
[04:04] <charims> Will someone please help me with my sound problem, you can view the details here. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=244018
[04:04] <lupine_85> linux apps just stretch out more
[04:04] <duncan_> yeah clearly ^
[04:04] <duncan_> ^
[04:05] <duncan_> In my opinion it is not as efficient
[04:05] <lupine_85> despite having the ability to have a 320x240 screen
[04:05] <duncan_> as microsoft
[04:05] <lupine_85> true
[04:05] <duncan_> ok
[04:05] <duncan_> :)
[04:05] <lupine_85> you could try a virtual desktop?
[04:05] <duncan_> nah
[04:05] <lupine_85> say, 1600x1200
[04:05] <duncan_> I can't go higher
[04:05] <duncan_> than 1024x768
[04:05] <lupine_85> the idea is, the desktop stays at 1024x768
[04:05] <lupine_85> but the screen area available is larger
[04:06] <duncan_> ah ok
[04:06] <lupine_85> so your screen is like a "window" to the true desktop
[04:06] <duncan_> ah cool
[04:06] <lupine_85> takes some getting used to though, because you can't see the whole screen
[04:06] <duncan_> yeah I had difficulty by setting up mp
[04:06] <duncan_> mp3
[04:07] <duncan_> my numbers don't work anymore :s strange
[04:07] <lupine_85> is numlock on? ;)
[04:07] <duncan_> yes!
[04:07] <duncan_> when I press them
[04:07] <duncan_> my pointer moves
 hi I am using kubuntu, and installed xgl and compiz, now I installed gnome-desktop and want to use xgl and compiz under gnome, Until now I had a xgl entry in kdm so xgl would load then kde, now I want that entry to load gnome
 how can I do it
[04:07] <zerotime> * Ci-Dev_ is now known as Ci-Dev
[04:08] <lupine_85> you accidentally turned on pointer movement-by-numpad
[04:08] <duncan_> ok
[04:08] <lupine_85> so go back into the mouse control panel and turn it off ;)
[04:08] <lupine_85> (last tab, IIRC)
[04:08] <duncan_> ok thx!
[04:08] <duncan_> yeah I just changed it
[04:08] <duncan_> lupine, can I have ur msn?
[04:08] <duncan_> for hel p in kubuntu
[04:08] <lupine_85> sorry, don't use msn
[04:08] <duncan_> huh?
[04:08] <lupine_85> channel is usually best anyway
[04:08] <duncan_> aim?
[04:08] <duncan_> gtalk?
[04:08] <lupine_85> nope :)
[04:09] <duncan_> lolz xD
[04:09] <duncan_> ok
[04:09] <duncan_> so I download ndswrapper
[04:09] <lupine_85> IRC and usenet for me :)
[04:09] <duncan_> how do I install it after that?
[04:10] <lupine_85> you need the windows drivers for your card
[04:10] <lupine_85> specifically the .inf and .sys files
[04:10] <charims> you can use the ndiswrapper package off your cd, much easier, and you don't have to compile it
[04:10] <duncan_> cd?
[04:10] <charims> your kubuntu cd that is
[04:10] <duncan_> ooookkk
[04:10] <duncan_> I just put it in and it works
[04:10] <duncan_> seems easy
[04:11] <Jucato> does anyone here know if Konversation truncates it's chat logs after a certain time/amount?
[04:11] <lupine_85> never had it do that to me
[04:11] <lupine_85> and i've got some long logs ;
[04:11] <lupine_85> ;) *
[04:11] <Jucato> ehehe thanks.
[04:11] <fabian2de> hey guys.... since I updated to kde 3.5.4 I cannot change the settings of my taskbar, because it is locked... how can I unlock it?
[04:11] <charims> hey, anyone able to help me with ym sound problem
[04:11] <Jucato> I was afraid that I might one day be surprised that my logs are a few days short...
[04:11] <charims> ?
[04:11] <Jucato> fabian2de: right-click "Unlock Panels"?
[04:12] <fabian2de> Jucato: well... then nothing happens
[04:12] <duncan_> ffs can't open dvd drive:(
[04:12] <fabian2de> Jucato: I read somithing about new config files in the forums but I didn't understood it
[04:12] <osoh> hi
[04:13] <duncan_> lupinee :p you there?
[04:13] <charims> hey, pparently you have a connection to the interent from the computer that needs ndiswrapper, right?
[04:13] <duncan_> if you've got wifi
[04:13] <duncan_> that is
[04:13] <charims> you can also get the package for ndiswrapper
[04:14] <charims> from the server
[04:14] <GarethMB> Righty, i'm off now. Thanks guys.
[04:14] <charims> duncan, do you have a connection to the internet from the pc that needs ndiswrapper?
[04:15] <Jucato> fabian2de: I'm not sure, I didn't have that problem. what happens when you right-click on the panel and select Unlock Panels?
[04:16] <duncan_> ok ok got it in
[04:16] <duncan_> lupine ;p
[04:16] <duncan_> no
[04:16] <duncan_> charmis
[04:16] <duncan_> I do not
[04:16] <charims> ok
[04:16] <duncan_> I just have UTP
[04:16] <duncan_> I gave up on ndswraper
[04:16] <duncan_> I'm trying it now
[04:16] <duncan_> :p
[04:16] <charims> just checking, good luck
[04:16] <duncan_> yes
[04:16] <duncan_> I am totally new
[04:16] <duncan_> to this
[04:16] <charims> haha, so am i
[04:16] <charims> i installed ndiswrapper yesterday tho
[04:16] <duncan_> I'm so sick
[04:16] <duncan_> yes?
[04:17] <duncan_> how did you install ndswrapper?
[04:17] <duncan_> ndiswrapper
[04:17] <duncan_> ??
[04:17] <fabian2de> Jucato: absolutely nothing... the menu disappers and the lock is even enabled
[04:17] <charims> well, just got the debian package off the cd, installed it, and then i did a few qucik konsole commands with my inf file
[04:17] <bubukde> no sound with x-plane, who can help meeeeeeeeeeee
[04:17] <duncan_> what commands did you do to install it?
[04:18] <charims> there is a readme with ndiswrapper
[04:18] <duncan_> n the cd?
[04:18] <Jucato> fabian2de: try this. go to ~/.kde/share/config/ and open up the file "kickerrc"
[04:19] <charims> no readme on the cd tho
[04:19] <charims> :(
[04:19] <charims> at least, i dont think there is
[04:19] <duncan_> ok
[04:19] <duncan_> wher eis the readme than?
[04:19] <lupine_85> ndiswrapper -h should explain
[04:19] <lupine_85> or man ndiswrapper
[04:19] <charims> haha
[04:19] <fabian2de> Jucato: okay
[04:19] <charims> lmemme see
[04:19] <Jucato> fabian2de: then look for a line that says "Locked=true" and set it to "Locked=false"
[04:20] <Jucato> fabian2de: save the file
[04:20] <duncan_> I'm gonna download ndiswrapper
[04:20] <fabian2de> Jucato: "Locked" is not in the file
[04:21] <Jucato> hmm...
[04:21] <Jucato> maybe it's in another config file...
[04:21] <charims> duncan, i can send you the readme in just a sec
[04:21] <duncan_> ok
[04:21] <duncan_> send it to me on msn?
[04:22] <fir3> hi
[04:22] <duncan_> Hi Fire
[04:22] <fir3> someone here using kubuntu on the macbook?
[04:23] <duncan_> have you got a macbooK?
[04:23] <fabian2de> Jucato: so, I killed kicker now an then I started it from the terminal, now when I click on "Unlock Panels" the followin appers in the Terminal:
[04:23] <duncan_> why the hell what you want to use kubuntu on a macbook?
[04:23] <fir3> duckdown, yep
[04:23] <duncan_> os x = best
[04:23] <fabian2de> Jucato: kdecore (KConfigSkeleton): KConfigSkeleton::writeConfig() kdecore (KConfigSkeleton): KConfigSkeleton::readConfig()
[04:23] <duncan_> brb
[04:24] <Jucato> fabian2de: did your upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 went without problems?
[04:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Anyone in here that remembers how I fought with Suspend to RAM on Kubuntu a while ago?
[04:24] <fabian2de> Jucato: I think yes, nothing was said by aptitude, so I think nothing bad happened
[04:24] <Jucato> fabian2de: did you do upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[04:25] <fabian2de> Jucato: upgrade, why?
[04:25] <duncan_> thx
[04:25] <charims> yup ;)
[04:25] <Jucato> fabian2de: did it say that it will remove kdelibs4-bin?
[04:25] <charims> i can send you the whole package if you want to attempt a self-compile
[04:25] <duncan_> hubba bubba :p what color is my nick btw?
[04:25] <duncan_> xD
[04:25] <duncan_> ?
[04:25] <j2daosh> who uses konversation in here?
[04:25] <charims> me
[04:25] <VincentMX> i do
[04:25] <Jucato> j2daosh: me too
[04:25] <j2daosh> how do i setup the auto identify?
[04:26] <j2daosh> the service is what?
[04:26] <j2daosh> nickserv?
[04:26] <VincentMX> yes
[04:26] <Jucato> j2daosh: try NickServ
[04:26] <j2daosh> ok
[04:26] <fabian2de> Jucato: well... I don't know... its been a while since I upgraded.. maybe 3 or 4 days ago...
[04:26] <j2daosh> i did /msg nickserv
[04:26] <j2daosh> lol
[04:26] <charims> hey, duncan, are you getting the file, or should i re-send
[04:26] <VincentMX> just set your nickserv password as server password for freenode
[04:26] <duncan_> re-send
[04:26] <duncan_> ffs
[04:26] <Jucato> aaah
[04:26] <duncan_> why doens't opera save my settings?
[04:26] <lupine_85> what version of konversation are you using?
[04:26] <duncan_> dno
[04:26] <j2daosh> brb
[04:26] <duncan_> latest one?
[04:26] <lupine_85> there's a repo for nightly versions
[04:27] <duncan_> 0.19
[04:27] <duncan_> btw
[04:27] <duncan_> how do I save my settings in oprea
[04:27] <duncan_> opera
[04:27] <Jucato> fabian2de: hmm...
[04:27] <charims> no idea
[04:27] <duncan_> I always change zoom from 100 to 80
[04:27] <duncan_> and when I boot again
[04:27] <lupine_85> 0.19 has a memory leak and some other problems
[04:27] <duncan_> it's back to 100
[04:27] <Jucato> fabian2de: so is Kicker running now?
[04:27] <fabian2de> Jucato: yeah
[04:28] <Jucato> fabian2de: ok let's try this again... this time go to /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/ and look for kickerrc again
[04:28] <charims> hey, duncan, the file isnt transferring, maybe someone can help us, we both use konversation right?
[04:28] <Jucato> fabian2de: right-click on it, select Actions > Edit as Root
[04:28] <j2daosh> ok
[04:28] <j2daosh> we good now :)
[04:28] <duncan_> yeah I use konversation
[04:28] <j2daosh> next question... who in here has used the gnome version of ubuntu?
[04:29] <lupine_85> gnome--
[04:29] <Jucato> me too, for about a few weeks
[04:29] <duncan_> it messed up my windows partition
[04:29] <duncan_> xd
[04:29] <duncan_> xD
[04:29] <charims> i did for a while
[04:29] <Jucato> btw, there is no GNOME version of Ubuntu :-D
[04:29] <j2daosh> ok, are you aware of the gnome-art manager application?
[04:29] <fabian2de> Jucato: okay, its open now
[04:29] <lupine_85> gNObuntu?
[04:29] <j2daosh> Jucato: ok... the gnome desktop version of uuntu
[04:29] <j2daosh> ubuntu
[04:29] <Jucato> fabian2de: now look for a line again with Locked=true and turn it to false
[04:30] <fabian2de> Jucato: there is no line showing "Locked" again
[04:30] <Jucato> fabian2de: how are you searching within Kate? Ctrl+F?
[04:30] <j2daosh> well gnome-art was a package that would connect to the gnome servers and would install backgrounds, login splash screens, toolbars the whole nine... does kde have anything like that?
[04:30] <Jucato> j2daosh: yes. but it's currently buggy at the moment
[04:30] <fabian2de> well, I use `sudo joe`... and then ctrl+k+f
[04:31] <j2daosh> what is it?
[04:31] <j2daosh> ill help find bugs :)
[04:31] <Jucato> j2daosh: but only for certain "themes" like backgrounds, Kopete themes, etc.
[04:32] <j2daosh> thats ok by me... i just wanna see some art :P
[04:32] <j2daosh> some background/splash art, stuff like that
[04:32] <Jucato> j2daosh: for example: right-click on the desktop > Configure Desktop > Background options
[04:32] <Jucato> there's a
[04:32] <j2daosh> yeah like that but i want the ones from the server
[04:32] <Jucato> Get New Wallpapers
[04:33] <j2daosh> oh ok
[04:33] <needanickname> uhm
[04:33] <Jucato> BUT... 2 tabs in that dialog box are disabled, KDE 3.5.4 Kubuntu bug...
[04:33] <j2daosh> lol looks like you found a nickname
[04:33] <charims> i have a sound problem, will someone help me
[04:33] <charims> ?
[04:33] <j2daosh> what tabs? all 3 of my tabs are operational..?
[04:34] <needanickname> yea.. kubuntu isnt letting me set the permissions to an ntfs file mount
[04:34] <j2daosh> needanickname: u cant... it will mount as read only... well unless you want to experiment...
[04:34] <Jucato> fabian2de: when you search, make sure that you disable the "Case sensitive" option
[04:34] <Jucato> j2daosh: the Most Downloads and Latest tabs
[04:34] <needanickname> j2, it mounts as read only, but the only person who can read is root
[04:35] <j2daosh> both of those are operational for me
[04:35] <j2daosh> ahh
[04:35] <j2daosh> u need to use the "users" option
[04:35] <Jucato> j2daosh: try clicking on a theme and see if it's still operational
[04:35] <j2daosh> ahh... gotcha Jucato
[04:35] <Nerevar> so... it seems  i cant get most live linux cds running on my computer anymore
[04:36] <Nerevar> so far i have tried kubuntu and pclinuxos, both had the same result
[04:36] <Nerevar> it hangs at mounting file system
[04:36] <charims> Hey, Nerevar, u like Morrowind?
[04:36] <Jucato> fabian2de: try it again with the other kickerrc file, you might have searched for "locked" but with case sensitivity on, it won't find "Locked"
[04:36] <Nerevar> yeah, i am a huge morrowind fan.
[04:36] <charims> i can tell ;)
[04:36] <j2daosh> lol
[04:36] <Nerevar> grin
[04:37] <needanickname> if youre the nerevar, then i'm the grey fox :p
[04:37] <Nerevar> You n'wah! hehe\
[04:37] <charims> haha
[04:37] <fabian2de> Jucato: I solved it on my own now :) (I added "Locked=false" in the "General"-Section of ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and then I restarted kicker and it worked :) thanks alot!!)
[04:37] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:37] <Jucato> ok glad you were able to solve it
[04:38] <charims> if someone could help me with my sound rpoblem, i can give them specifics in dcc chat
[04:38] <Nerevar> so i looked at the kubuntu forum - there are like 8 pges of people having the same problem as i
[04:38] <needanickname> .. i wanna listen to my music on my ntfs drive =(
[04:38] <j2daosh> needanickname: this is what you need to do
[04:39] <j2daosh> sudo vim /etc/fstab
[04:39] <Jucato> j2daosh: he might find nano easier...
[04:39] <needanickname> i actually replaced vim with nano :o
[04:39] <Jucato> lol
[04:40] <j2daosh> ex: /dev/hda2 /media/mountpoint user,auto,default (you may not need default with auto...) 0 0
[04:40] <j2daosh> lol
[04:40] <j2daosh> vims better
[04:40] <j2daosh> yall suck :P
[04:40] <needanickname> i'm just lazy :p
[04:40] <j2daosh> lol
[04:40] <Jucato> j2daosh: coz you know how to use it. consider the other person
[04:40] <j2daosh> me too... thats why i kept vim :)
[04:40] <j2daosh> yeah i know... different strokes for different folks
[04:41] <Jucato> actually, I thought it was different strokes for different brushes?
[04:41] <j2daosh> lol im from GA
[04:41] <j2daosh> we do things alittle different
[04:41] <needanickname> AL here
[04:41] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:41] <Jucato> lol.... I'm almost halfway around the world
[04:42] <j2daosh> once you have that entry in your fstab, save the file and then open a terminal and type mount
[04:42] <j2daosh> or sudo mount
[04:42] <j2daosh> it should load it up
[04:42] <j2daosh> if it dont, let me know ill copy my fstab entry
[04:42] <charims> No sound, i already followed the comprehensive sound problem solutions guide, here are some specifics.
[04:42] <charims>  nVidia Corporation MCP2S AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
[04:42] <charims>         Subsystem: FIRST INTERNATIONAL Computer Inc: Unknown device 927a
[04:43] <j2daosh> did you change to alsa?
[04:43] <needanickname> okay, i screwed with fstab.. i'm guessing that a restart is in order?
[04:43] <j2daosh> nevermind... diffed thing
[04:43] <j2daosh> nope nick
[04:43] <charims> change what, i followed the instuctions for alsa
[04:43] <j2daosh> just type in sudo mount
[04:43] <lupine_85> needanickname: not really
[04:43] <needanickname> ah
[04:43] <Jucato> When I first started using Linux, I always thought "fstab" meant F-Stab....
[04:43] <lupine_85> not mount -a ?
[04:43] <j2daosh> yeah that one :P
[04:43] <j2daosh> sudo mount -a
[04:43] <needanickname>  /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hdb1 type ntfs (rw)
[04:43] <needanickname> :o
[04:43] <needanickname> okay, i'll try that lol
[04:44] <needanickname> ahh
[04:44] <j2daosh> what the hell....
[04:44] <j2daosh> how did i establish a connection?
[04:44] <Jucato> j2daosh: by helping others in need....
[04:44] <Jucato> :-D
[04:44] <j2daosh> lol
[04:44] <lupine_85> erm... r/w ntfs?
[04:44] <j2daosh> no rw
[04:45] <j2daosh> unless you want to kill ntfs partition
[04:45] <Jucato> er.. no W, but yes to R
[04:45] <lupine_85> not unless you're brave
[04:45] <Jucato> brave or... um...
[04:45] <needanickname> i heard that there was something floating around that could do ntfs alright in linux
[04:45] <lupine_85> pre-pre-pre-pre-alpha
[04:45] <j2daosh> u heard wrong
[04:45] <j2daosh> its very experimental
[04:45] <needanickname> ah
[04:45] <lupine_85> and not installed by default
[04:45] <Jucato> well, it's stable for some, but not for mission-critical stuff
[04:46] <lupine_85> right now, I think the latest linux kernel (the one you don't have) can do r/w access in a few very limited situations
[04:46] <lupine_85> namely: editing a file already present, as long as the filesize doesn't change
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Linux Britannia <IP_ADDRESS> #1 SMP Thu Aug 24 21:42:52 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Heh, like that one :P
[04:46] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind!
[04:46] <needanickname> now, when i mounted my dvd drive, it gave everyone view permissions..
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good morning
[04:46] <lupine_85> bah, yours is more up to date than mine
[04:47] <lupine_85> <IP_ADDRESS> is good enough
[04:47] <Jucato> lol! us mere mortals merely have 2.6.15-26
[04:47] <Hawkwind> lupine_85: I have a very easy how-to on my forums that takes less than an hour for me to build the new kernel.  It even builds .deb packs :)
[04:47] <Jucato> which *cough* forums *cough*
[04:48] <Hawkwind> Jucato: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=611.0
[04:48] <Healot> mine a to <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:48] <Jucato> lol! I knew it :-D
[04:48] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Very simple to follow
[04:48] <Hawkwind> Healot: No such kernel yet
[04:48] <lupine_85> I just do the standard make oldconfig; make menuconfig; make; make modules; make modules_instal; make install
[04:48] <Nerevar> why does my computer hate linux so much
[04:48] <Healot> i made it up
[04:48] <lupine_85> cba with .debs for a kernel
[04:48] <Jucato> yeah.. but please clarify w/c forums. or should I presume that you always mean LFD? :-D
[04:48] <Healot> i know
[04:49] <Nerevar> all i do is put the boot cd in and it won't start :x
[04:49] <lupine_85> I can do mine in 1/2 hour ;)
[04:49] <Hawkwind> Jucato: That how-to is actually on the Kubuntu forums too.  I did post it there
[04:49] <Nerevar> so far tried kubuntu and pclinuxos both never start
[04:49] <needanickname> did i not do something right, j2daosh?
[04:49] <Jucato> hm.. we really need to organize it... ^_^
[04:49] <j2daosh> ok hold on ill paste my fstab
[04:49] <j2daosh> oh snap
[04:50] <j2daosh> forgot an option for ya lol
[04:50] <j2daosh> here is what yours needs to look like
[04:50] <j2daosh> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0
[04:50] <j2daosh>    1
[04:50] <KoMpLoT> Hi all!
[04:50] <j2daosh> that 1 goes up on the other line
[04:50] <needanickname> ahh
[04:50] <needanickname> i'm gonna go try that :p
[04:51] <j2daosh> forgot all the nls umask stuff lol
[04:51] <j2daosh> leave the gid off (dont know what 46 is on your system
[04:51] <lupine_85> oh, so xp is utf8 by default?
[04:51] <lupine_85> cor
[04:52] <j2daosh> yep
[04:52] <j2daosh> same with 2003
[04:52] <redondo81> can anyone tell me how to create a key shortcut to lunch a program?
[04:53] <j2daosh> lol ill let someone else take this one :)
[04:53] <needanickname> :o
[04:53] <needanickname> it worked
[04:54] <lupine_85> they're almost out of the dark ages, then...
[04:54] <Jucato[Away] > redondo81: what do you mean?
[04:55] <j2daosh> so your good now noname?
[04:55] <j2daosh> needanickname:
[04:55] <redondo81> I installed 3ddesktop and I want to lunch it pressing a button
[04:55] <Jucato> lol
[04:55] <redondo81> for example F12
[04:55] <needanickname> yea, j2.. now i just need to google some other stuff :p
[04:55] <j2daosh> ok
[04:56] <Jucato> redondo81: go to System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Input Actions
[04:56] <redondo81> ok
[04:57] <Jucato> redondo81: create a New Action, give it a name
[04:57] <Jucato> for the Action type, make it Keyboard Shortcut > Simple
[04:57] <redondo81> ok
[04:57] <needanickname> ugh.. how recently have mx nicks been popping up?
[04:58] <Jucato> then in the Keyboard Shortcut tab, click on the None button and press the keyboard shortcut you want to use
[04:58] <redondo81> ok, thanks done
[04:58] <Jucato> then in the Command/URL Settings, enter the command or program name you want to be run
[04:58] <Jucato> redondo81: it will be useful for commands/programs that really don't have K Menu entries, like 3D Desktop
[04:59] <redondo81> yes
[05:04] <charims> LA Di DA DI da
[05:05] <needanickname> okay.. both amarok and kaffeine are gimpin on an mp3 file i just copied from my ntfs mount
[05:05] <ubuntu> c'est encore franck
[05:06] <Hawkwind> !fr
[05:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:06] <Jucato> needanickname: what do you mean by gimpin?
[05:06] <charims> oh, cool, french help
[05:06] <needanickname> i click play, and it's automatically done playing
[05:06] <arepie> !my
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <Jucato> !mp3
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:06] <arepie> dem.. no malaysian help..
[05:07] <charims> i ahve the same problem as need a nickname, but i don;'t have sound anyways right now....
[05:07] <needanickname> ahhhh
[05:07] <Jucato> needanickname: you need to install "libxine-extracodecs"
[05:07] <Jucato> it's found in the multiverse component of the repos
[05:07] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:07] <needanickname> alright
[05:07] <j2daosh> charims: , your having that problem?!
[05:08] <j2daosh> i thought charims had a problem with the actual card and not getting recognized by system...
[05:08] <j2daosh> well... lol thats one for the retard side
[05:08] <yanis> If you already have a 6.06 install just make sure your packages are up to date from dapper-updates
[05:09] <yanis> what is 'dapper-updates' ?
[05:09] <j2daosh> updates... for dapper....
[05:09] <Healot> the name explains it
[05:09] <j2daosh> lol
[05:09] <Healot> not every distro speak geek, yanis
[05:09] <yanis> but where can I find them?
[05:09] <charims> j2daosh, that is a side problem
[05:09] <Jucato> let's see if ubotu knows..
[05:09] <Jucato> !dapper-updates
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapper-updates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <duncan_> tar zxvf ndiswrapper-1.23.tar.gz
[05:10] <charims> i don't get any sound whatsoever, but i knew i had to get the codecs once i got sound
[05:10] <duncan_> if I type that
[05:10] <duncan_> Iget errors
[05:10] <duncan_> I get errors
[05:10] <duncan_> :(
[05:10] <j2daosh> oh ok
[05:10] <Jucato> j2daosh: be gentle...
[05:10] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:10] <j2daosh> lol sorry yanis
[05:10] <grothesk> Will there by a kernel update soon? 2.6.15-26-k7 does not play well with VIA Chipsets. 2.6.15-25-k7 runs far better on my computer.
[05:10] <j2daosh> charims:  so you are having a system sound problem...? not a codec issue?
[05:10] <yanis> so, If I apt-get upgrade then I'll have these dapper-updates?
[05:10] <charims> yes, i get no sound
[05:11] <charims> codec issue is a side issue
[05:11] <Jucato> yanis: no. dapper-updates is a repository in your sources.list
[05:11] <j2daosh> sudo apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade
[05:11] <charims> which i can fix later
[05:11] <j2daosh> ok
[05:11] <Jucato> j2daosh: that command is sooo way off
[05:11] <yanis> Jucato: I have uncomment all the lines in my sources.list
[05:11] <j2daosh> really?
[05:11] <j2daosh> its been a minute
[05:11] <yanis> Jucato: want do it automatically?
[05:11] <needanickname> thanks, jucato
[05:11] <j2daosh> lemme try it :P
[05:12] <charims> j2daosh have you figured anything out about my sound problem?
[05:12] <Jucato> yanis: so the lines with "dapper-updates" are already uncommented?
[05:12] <j2daosh> still using my google-fu on it charims
[05:12] <charims> kk, :)
[05:13] <yanis> yes Jucato
[05:13] <Jucato> yanis: ok then. in Konsole, type "sudo apt-get update"
[05:14] <KoMpLoT> Hi would like to get some help with cups and kubuntu, I've already read the Known Problems in Dapper, but the problem here is that cups works, but when I print it will only print some colors
[05:14] <KoMpLoT> I have a Epson Stylus C63, the ink status are fine
[05:14] <KoMpLoT> what can I do?
[05:15] <j2daosh> Jucato: i wasn't off... that will do the dist-upgrade
[05:15] <yanis> Jucato: I did.check this errol log I get every time I run apt-get ->  http://pastebin.ca/150137
[05:15] <KoMpLoT> I've already reinstalled cups, and also installed and reinstalled the printer drivers a lot of times with no luck
[05:16] <arepie> hey.. anyone installed atlantik (game) ??
[05:16] <Jucato> j2daosh: apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade on the same line?
[05:16] <Healot> KAtlantik?
[05:16] <Jucato> yanis: did you "sudo apt-get update" first?
[05:16] <arepie> Healot: yea
[05:16] <j2daosh> nono
[05:16] <yanis> ofcourse Jucato
[05:16] <Healot> installed by default, never played it :)
[05:17] <yanis> Jucato: btw I get this error since I installed kubuntu6.06
[05:17] <j2daosh> just dist-upgrade... for the disupgrade... upgrade for updates and updates for updating apt-get db
[05:17] <charims> hey, j2daosh, i was just playing around with my mixer, im still not getting sound, but when i change the balance from left to right, i do get a slight hum from the speakers which switches as i switch the balnce in the micxer
[05:17] <Jucato> j2daosh: look at what you typed:  <j2daosh> sudo apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade
[05:17] <j2daosh> oh
[05:17] <j2daosh> well i screwed up
[05:17] <j2daosh> lol
[05:18] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:18] <j2daosh> and you are sure it is plugged in correctly?
[05:18] <j2daosh> that sounds like plugs are switched...
[05:18] <charims> nope, plugged in right
[05:18] <charims> i just don't get any sound playing on the channel
[05:18] <j2daosh> ok, check this out (might be right up your ally) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=151622
[05:18] <Jucato> yanis: ok, I'm a bit clueless about this. first time I've encountered it, so I really don't know what else to say...
[05:19] <gernot> does anybody use kde 3.5.4 on dapper?
[05:19] <yanis> Jucato: ok
[05:19] <slougi_> gernot: yes
[05:19] <Jucato> gernot: yes
[05:19] <gernot> what about your system:/ ioslave, does it work?
[05:19] <j2daosh> give the third party ones a shot
[05:19] <gnomefreak> gernot: yes but not at the moment
[05:19] <j2daosh> ill keep looking
[05:20] <slougi_> gernot: seems to work for me
[05:20] <needanickname> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:20] <Jucato> gernot: yest
[05:20] <gernot> cause mine prints "an unknown error occured" as soon as I try to access an unmounted device like an usb stick
[05:20] <Jucato> s/yest/yes
[05:20] <gernot> Jucato: yours too?
[05:20] <Jucato> gernot: no, I meant that it works for me.. sorry...
[05:20] <j2daosh> needanickname: sudo apt-get install build-essientials (or buildessientials... been awhile)
[05:21] <gernot> slougi_: yours too?
[05:21] <Jucato> my problem is with media:/
[05:21] <j2daosh> then try to config
[05:21] <Jucato> but why would you try to access an unmounted partition/device
[05:21] <Hawkwind> j2daosh: build-essential actually
[05:21] <gernot> so is mine, media gives the same results as system, when trying to acces the same device
[05:21] <gernot> Jucato: in order to mount it ;-)
[05:22] <Jucato> gernot: don't you right-click it and choose mount?
[05:22] <j2daosh> lol had to be one of those
[05:22] <Jucato> gernot: also, isn't it supposed to automount?
[05:22] <gernot> Jucato: usually I just click on it
[05:22] <Jucato> aah
[05:22] <slougi_> gernot: works for me
[05:23] <slougi_> gernot: you could try running konq from a console and see if it spits out anything interesting when opening system:/
[05:23] <slougi_> be warned though, it is pretty verbose under the best circumstances...
[05:23] <gernot> slougi_: kde 3.5.4 from ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu dapper main ?
[05:23] <needanickname> couldnt find either, j2daosh
[05:23] <Mehercle> lsb_release output comes from which file?
[05:24] <slougi_> gernot: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main
[05:24] <Jucato> Mehercle: /etc/release, I think?
[05:24] <Healot> !build
[05:24] <Jucato> not really sure
[05:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:24] <frasen> Anybody from Italy???
[05:24] <Mehercle> Error: no such file "/etc/release"
[05:25] <Mehercle> !it
[05:25] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:25] <kraut> !de
[05:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:25] <kraut> ha, cool :)
[05:25] <Mehercle> lol
[05:25] <needanickname> thanks
[05:25] <ranunculoid> !pl
[05:25] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:25] <Mehercle> Jucato: Error: no such file "/etc/release"
[05:25] <Jucato> Mehercle: I said I wasn't sure.. sorry
[05:25] <Mehercle> np
[05:25] <slougi_>  /etc/lsb-release
[05:26] <Mehercle> k
[05:26] <Mehercle> thanks
[05:26] <Jucato> oh there, slougi_ got it
[05:26] <slougi_> np
[05:26] <redondo81> to visualize .avi file what I need?
[05:26] <Mehercle> and to print this to my screen?
[05:26] <sleeptyper> why K3b fails every time i try to burn an image?
[05:26] <Mehercle> (damn commands....)
[05:27] <slougi> Mehercle: cat?
[05:27] <Mehercle> thanks
[05:27] <slougi> or less
[05:27] <slougi> or more
[05:27] <slougi> ;)
[05:27] <Jucato> Mehercle: lsb_release -a seems to be more descriptive than the contents of that file...
[05:27] <Mehercle> heeh
[05:27] <Mehercle> hehe
[05:27] <Mehercle> lol
[05:27] <Mehercle> i know
[05:28] <redondo81> Anyone can tell me what I have to install to visualize .avi file?
[05:28] <Mehercle> but now i can replace Ubuntu with Kubuntu ;-)
[05:28] <slougi> Mehercle: that seems to print the exact same stuff
[05:28] <frasen> w32codec
[05:28] <gernot> slougi_: Just a second, I'll post the error message
[05:28] <longbean> redondo81: it's a video file. i'm not sure what the default player for kubuntu is. kaffeine?
[05:28] <Jucato> Mehercle: err... you are using Ubuntu... but with KDE on top
[05:28] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:28] <Jucato> longbean: correct
[05:28] <redondo81> yes
[05:28] <Mehercle> i know, i know
[05:29] <Jucato> redondo81: it should be covered by the "llibxine-extracodecs" package
[05:29] <frasen> try this http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[05:29] <redondo81> but when I lunch it the audio ok, but video is off
[05:29] <frasen> and follow the iinstructions
[05:29] <Mehercle> Distributor ID: Kubuntu  :-)
[05:29] <Jucato> Mehercle: um.... I think they really set it up that way for LSB (Linux Standard Base) compliance
[05:29] <slougi> Mehercle: keep the distributor id as ubuntu
[05:29] <Jucato> of course, it's your system, so...
[05:29] <j2daosh> u still here charims?
[05:29] <Mehercle> okay
[05:29] <charims> yeah, im here
[05:30] <slougi> Mehercle: even on a vanilla kubuntu installation it is ubuntu, as they are the same system just with a different desktop
[05:30] <Mehercle> i know
[05:30] <charims> forcedeth is for my nforce lan, which doesnt support ubuntu, and i already did the modprobe snd-intel8x0
[05:30] <gernot> slougi:kio (KIOJob): error 63 An unknown error occured
[05:30] <frasen> it will install all you need to play avi files and other useful things
[05:30] <charims> but i tried again, notihng
[05:31] <Mehercle> is it allowed to change /etc/issue ??
[05:31] <slougi> gernot: heh that does not say much... can you paste the whole output to http://rafb.net/paste/ ?
[05:31] <slougi> and then paste the link
[05:31] <jontec> I need to know where the debian packagees are for Kubuntu
[05:32] <osoh> bye
[05:32] <Mehercle> Jucato: is it allowed to change /etc/issue ??
[05:32] <slougi> jontec: which packages?
[05:32] <slougi> Mehercle: it is
[05:32] <Mehercle> okay
[05:32] <ilfungo> ciao
[05:32] <Mehercle> :-)
[05:32] <Mehercle> cu
[05:32] <jontec> all of them
[05:32] <jontec> the ones that apt-get downloads
[05:33] <jontec> I don't need to install them
[05:33] <jontec> I just don't want to have to download them on my other system
[05:33] <slougi> jontec: just select any mirror... ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ for example
[05:33] <slougi> look in pool
[05:33] <jontec> I mean on my system?
[05:33] <gernot> slougi: the output is here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/hbyvka66.html
[05:34] <slougi> jontec: ah /var/cache/apt
[05:34] <jontec> like on my hard drive? (I'm looking for a directory)
[05:34] <jontec> yeah!
[05:34] <slougi> some subfolder there
[05:34] <jontec> that!
[05:34] <jontec> :D
[05:34] <jontec> gracias
[05:34] <slougi> no problem
[05:34] <redondo81> It doean't find the llibxine-extracodecs
[05:35] <[GuS] > redondo81, you must add multiverse repo
[05:35] <redondo81> and how?
[05:35] <mimix> does anyone know a good doc on how to customize kubuntu CD? I want to add some apps to it like firefox, etc.
[05:35] <mimix> by CD I mean the install not live-cd
[05:35] <atidem> hello folks
[05:35] <j2daosh> how do you check irq ports in linux?
[05:36] <mimix> j2daosh: kinfocenter
[05:36] <slougi> gernot: did you try to open your floppy?
[05:36] <redondo81> How can add multiverse repo please?
[05:36] <slougi> since there is lots of stuff about it in the log
[05:36] <[GuS] > redondo81, add these lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:36] <[GuS] > # Multiverse
[05:36] <[GuS] > deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[05:36] <[GuS] > deb-src http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[05:36] <[GuS] > then, sudo apt-get update
[05:37] <slougi> gernot: sorry, need to leave... hopefully someone else can help. otherwise you could file a bug
[05:37] <slougi> or ask in the forums
[05:37] <redondo81> ok
[05:37] <gernot> slougi: it actually performs the mount operation, the device is mounted, just the io slave dies
[05:39] <LeeJunFan> j2daosh: cat /proc/interrupts
[05:39] <slougi> gernot: i've had the same problem with my floppy drive ever since the media:/ io-slave was introduced, I never bothered looking into it since I don't use the drive. Forgot all about it. anyway, need to go now, see you all
[05:39] <slougi> gernot: that is to say, everything works except the floppy
[05:40] <redondo81> I added the lines but it doesnt find the llibxine-extracodecs" package yet
[05:40] <Jucato> gernot: I think there's a bug with KDE 3.5.4 and HAL in Kubuntu
[05:40] <[GuS] > redondo81,
[05:40] <Jucato> redondo81: libxine-extracodecs (single L)
[05:40] <[GuS] > es libxine-extracodecs
[05:40] <[GuS] > no ll
[05:41] <[GuS] > is*
[05:41] <srdjant> I can't believe kubuntu people have managed to compile clanbomber... that's such a cool game and i've tried to compile it and it's a headache.
[05:41] <redondo81> ok perfect
[05:44] <j2daosh> where can i find where a sound card is located?
[05:44] <phreakys>   does anyone know how to make a kde-session of xgl/compiz?
[05:44] <j2daosh> i think charims might need to override his location
[05:45] <Jucato> j2daosh: KInfoCenter?
[05:45] <j2daosh> i dont see it in there
[05:45] <j2daosh> system settings, sound system
[05:45] <Jucato> hm... define "where it is located"?
[05:45] <srdjant> phreakys: what do you mean kde-session of xgl/compiz?
[05:45] <j2daosh> in the override location box... what would go in there?
[05:45] <j2daosh> an irq?
[05:45] <Jucato> ah
[05:46] <j2daosh> or /dev/sounddevice
[05:46] <Jucato> probably a /dev/sounddevice. I'm not sure if Linux uses irq...
[05:46] <phreakys> well, i installed xgl/compiz on kubuntu, and it starts as default now
[05:47] <srdjant> sorry, can't help you then, phreakys
[05:47] <phreakys> i would like to select nonxgl desktop too, for some purposes. xgl isnt too stable
[05:47] <srdjant> is there really a /dev/sounddevice????
[05:47] <phreakys> ok, np
[05:47] <jontec> can anyone of tell me what the command is for safe graphics boot (Kbuntu, ubuntu, Xubuntu) I'm unning the xiubuntu alternate CD and one of the installations I did didn't display correctly
[05:47] <srdjant>  /dev/snd/
[05:48] <phreakys> on a laptop jontec?
[05:48] <j2daosh> on mine its /dev/audio
[05:48] <j2daosh> i got a /snd too though
[05:48] <phreakys> i had problems too getting x on my laptop from installation. had to install fglrx from console
[05:48] <jontec> well it's on vmware for Windows
[05:49] <srdjant> that's OSS, j2daosh
[05:49] <jontec> so maybe?
[05:49] <srdjant> alsa uses /dev/snd/
[05:49] <phreakys> ah
[05:49] <j2daosh> ahh
[05:49] <phreakys> dont know about that
[05:49] <j2daosh> ok he needs to point to snd then
[05:51] <Kragnerac> Hello, Does anybody know where a log file is on my system to track what apt-get has updated?
[05:51] <nomad411> Hi,  I have someone coming over in a few hours that wants Kubuntu on their laptop.. Yeaeeeaaahh!  Can someone recommend a very fast download place for it?
[05:51] <j2daosh> ok... charims needs some help with his sound... it looks like his card is recognized, but he gets no sound from it... i have had him use both asla and esd and nothing... his speakers are plugged in correctly and he read the comphrehensive tutrorial for the sound card thing
[05:52] <srdjant> j2daosh: alsa by default mutes the sound volumes. Try alsamixer from the command line and check that it's all not muted and turn up the volume.
[05:53] <j2daosh> all are up he said
[05:53] <nomad411> Ohhh I found I had a copy.. yes!
[05:55] <srdjant> j2daosh: yes but make sure it's not muted. unmuted != all volume controls to maximum.
[06:01] <longbean> what's the benefit of Xgl? Is it just eyecandy?
[06:02] <Healot> eyecandy
[06:02] <Healot> and some funcionaliti
[06:04] <longbean> is it resource-hungry?
[06:04] <Healot> great for solving cluttered desktop
[06:04] <Healot> but a waste though
[06:04] <Healot> longbean:not that power hungry
[06:04] <j2daosh> hey srdjant can you help charims, i just got called
[06:04] <Healot> but you still need to enable 3D hardware acceleration
[06:05] <srdjant> i can try...
[06:07] <needanickname> Install the X development headers and try again.
[06:08] <needanickname> nvm.. i bet i can google this one x_x
[06:13] <joecoder> Hello.  How can I make my cdrom auto mount whenever a cd is inserted?
[06:13] <joecoder> /dev/cdrom      /media/cdrom    auto    ro,user,auto,exec     0       0
[06:17] <zecarlos> oi gente, boa tarde
[06:19] <treat> is wpa supposed to work with the version of network manager in adept?
[06:24] <Jucato> utter silence...
[06:24] <srdjant_> yeah i'm helping charims with the sound problem
[06:24] <treat> how do i get wpa working?
[06:24] <Jucato> ehehe
[06:25] <srdjant_> you need that wpa passthough thing, don't you?
[06:25] <srdjant_> begins with s...
[06:25] <treat> i have network manager
[06:25] <treat> knetworkmangar thinks my router is using wep =/
[06:25] <treat> but its not
[06:26] <srdjant_> treat, my adept says wpasupplicant
[06:26] <treat> i have that to
[06:26] <srdjant_> so install that. no idea how to use that though
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> dang it - what is that kde tool that shows the space used by different folders in a nice graphical way.
[06:26] <treat> network manager is suppose to control wpa_supplicant for you
[06:27] <srdjant_> which is network manager?
[06:27] <srdjant_> oh, let me try
[06:27] <treat> it's called knetworkmanager
[06:27] <treat> but thats just the frontend
[06:27] <srdjant_> i have kwifimanager
[06:28] <Delphinus> ok here's an interesting question, installed kubuntu but kinda forgot to do the add users part... is it possible to add a user without any set up already?
[06:28] <srdjant_> adduser
[06:28] <treat> kwifimanager also says wep
[06:28] <Delphinus> from where? i cant login?
[06:29] <treat> my router doesn't even support wep
[06:29] <treat> only wpa
[06:29] <srdjant_> boot kubuntu, but add init=/bin/sh   then when it boots you have root shell, then just adduser
[06:29] <Delphinus> forgive the noobishness, but where does one add init=etc
[06:29] <Kragnerac>  Hello, Does anybody know where a log file is on my system to track what apt-get has updated?
[06:29] <Jucato> srdjant_: couldn't he boot into recovery mode?
[06:29] <nick_> Anybody know the port I need to forward to be able to send and receive files via konversation?
[06:30] <Jucato> Kragnerac: try /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:30] <srdjant_> Jucato, probably, though i'm not familiar enough with kubuntu and grub to know of a recovery mode ;)  (i've used slackware for a long time and that uses LILO)
[06:31] <srdjant_> slackware = hardcore :)
[06:31] <Jucato> hehe! there's a Recovery Mode in Kubuntu's default GRUB options
[06:31] <Kragnerac> Jucato: Thanks.
[06:31] <Delphinus> ok i'll boot that :) ty
[06:31] <srdjant> thanks Jucato.
[06:32] <Delphinus> awesome that did the trick :)
[06:33] <srdjant_slack> nick_, dcc recv and send?
[06:33] <nick_> ya ya
[06:33] <Delphinus> dammit its nearly 5am i should get some sleep
[06:33] <srdjant_slack> it will be the full range of ports i reckon.
[06:33] <nick_> Well, I forwarded 21 but I dunno
[06:33] <nick_> trying to get into rizon to see if it works..
[06:34] <nick_> it seems like I've been having some weird problems with my download speed after switching from windows.
[06:34] <srdjant_slack> wtf some freaks have guns in the field near my house. i hope they're not shooting at my cats!
[06:34] <nick_> basically irc and bittorrent though
[06:34] <nick_> call the cops.
[06:34] <nick_> :)
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> deer season?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> thats not till later in the year.
[06:35] <srdjant_slack> looks like foxhunters or bird shooters
[06:35] <srdjant_slack> my cat looks a bit like a fox...
[06:35] <nick_> did you call it firefox? lol.
[06:36] <srdjant_slack> phew she's safe. need to find the other cat.
[06:36] <srdjant_slack> nick_, lol.
[06:36] <srdjant_slack> you mean http://www.andreaharner.com/archives/TheRealFirefox.jpg
[06:37] <nick_> lol omg >_>
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> thats a pomerianian with a mohawk
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> looks almost like my dog
[06:37] <srdjant_slack> :D
[06:37] <Jucato> lol
[06:37] <nick_> oh snap
[06:37] <Kragnerac> Racoon.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> except my dog would of ripped apart the guy with the clippers.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> not be taking a nap. :)
[06:37] <nick_> I just got booted from a server for some kinda nick problem -_-
[06:38] <nick_> how do you change your nick via command?
[06:38] <srdjant_slack>  /nick new_nick
[06:38] <Psychobudgie> type /nick nick
[06:38] <SUPERNICK> psshs
[06:38] <UBUNICK> there we go.
[06:39] <Kragnerac> UBERNICK
[06:39] <UBUNICK> nuuu :P
[06:39] <sleeptyper> ew, full CAPS
[06:39] <UBUNICK> you better believe it!
[06:39] <Kragnerac> Heh.
[06:39] <sleeptyper> get a life ;)
[06:39] <UBUNICK> what do you mean get a life?
[06:39] <UBUNICK> I have a life
[06:39] <UBUNICK> do you?
[06:39] <UBUNICK> kthx.
[06:39] <Kragnerac> Uhoh...
[06:40] <UBUNICK> :-)
[06:40] <UBUNICK> ubuntu+nick=ubunick.
[06:40] <sleeptyper> no comment, YELLER
[06:40] <UBUNICK> >_>
[06:40] <aliasfred> UBUNICK: can you put it in lower case ? caps are kinda aggressive
[06:40] <aliasfred> thanks :)
[06:41] <Jucato> yey! aliasfred's here! :-D
[06:41] <aliasfred> mouaoua
[06:41] <Kragnerac> Jahaa!
[06:41] <charims> hey srdjant, u there?
[06:41] <richardh_> Hi everyone...anyone familiar with WEP enabled WIFI starting automatically on start-up?
[06:42] <tuxar> I use WEP with my wireless card and my router at home
[06:43] <richardh_> tuxar: my wifi connected on start-up until I started using the WEP key, now I need to start it with wlassistant...any idea why?
[06:43] <tuxar> richardh_: you want some help, Im noob but perhaps I can help you
[06:43] <richardh_> tuxar: the key is inside the interfaces config
[06:43] <tuxar> richardh_: you're using kubuntu ?
[06:43] <richardh_> tuxar: yes
[06:44] <kubunick> kubuntu owns all.
[06:44] <srdjant> hi charims
[06:44] <tuxar> richardh_: ok, here is how I configure it
[06:44] <charims> hi
[06:44] <kubunick> I'm still having problems with scc transfer..
[06:44] <sleeptyper> so, k3b fails... any solves ?
[06:44] <tuxar> richardh_: Go to System Preferences, then Network Parameters
[06:45] <kubunick> fails why? o_O
[06:45] <sleeptyper> it won't even try to burn anything
[06:45] <tuxar> richardh_: Go into administrator mode
[06:45] <richardh_> tuxar: yes, did all that
[06:45] <aliasfred> just got a new 250gbyte :) all happy about it :)
[06:45] <kubunick> so the app doesn't fail but it doesn't recognize your disc?
[06:45] <srdjant> charims: is it working?
[06:45] <richardh_> tuxar: the wep key is in there, theoretically it should be working
[06:45] <sleeptyper> kubunick, no idea...
[06:46] <tuxar> richardh_: ah ah, I think you're trying it by command mode
[06:46] <charims> nope, didnt work
[06:46] <kubunick> emm, try reinstalling it :P
[06:46] <charims> i found an mp3, i got static for a second, then nothing
[06:46] <richardh_> tuxar: nope, I've got it all configured, but somehow it just doesn't start automatically
[06:47] <sleeptyper> ..
[06:47] <tuxar> richardh_: the user is the first sudo user of the system ?
[06:48] <kubunick> did anybody have to forward any special port to be able to receive dcc transfers for konversation?
[06:49] <tuxar> richardh_: I mean...is in the sudoers list ? or perhaps you have to give others permissions that the user don't have ( sorry about my english )
[06:49] <charims> srdjant i found an mp3, tried it and i got static for a second, then nothing, even thought the file was still playing
[06:49] <richardh_> tuxar: don't think it's that...the problem seems to lie in the WEP key, because it did work properly without it
[06:49] <kubunick> netcad!
[06:49] <lupine_85> kubunick: you can set specific ports in the config., I think
[06:50] <kubunick> in the config where?
[06:50] <lupine_85> you'd only need it if you're behind a NAT firewall
[06:50] <kubunick> oh
[06:50] <kubunick> dcc
[06:50] <kubunick> ..
[06:50] <lupine_85> found it? :)
[06:50] <kubunick> hmm.. 1025-7000.. that's a lot of ports :O
[06:51] <srdjant_slack> yup
[06:51] <lupine_85> just restrict it to 1 or 2
[06:51] <tuxar> richardh_: Did you looked in Ubuntuforums, I remember some people having the same problem there
[06:51] <kubunick> the default is 6667 or something like that isn't it?
[06:51] <lupine_85> konv. is keeping it's options open in case some of them are already used
[06:51] <lupine_85> 6667 is IRC in general
[06:51] <kubunick> maybe I should forward that or something/
[06:51] <kubunick> even though it should be already -_-
[06:52] <kubunick> on to other problems.. how do I set a certain bittorrent client as the default?
[06:52] <kubunick> I use azureus but..
[06:52] <aliasfred> 6667 is the default port for the normal irc protocol (client-server)
[06:52] <kubunick> mmm yeah.
[06:52] <aliasfred> i dunno if there is one for the dcc
[06:53] <tuxar> you know what's left in Kubuntu ? when I upgrade my system in Ubuntu the system sometimes tell me I have to restart the computer, That is no happend in Adept, you know why ?
[06:53] <aliasfred> kubunick: what client are you using ?
[06:53] <kubunick> konversation
[06:53] <lupine_85> MIME-types in Konq.
[06:53] <kubunick> hmm?
[06:53] <lupine_85> (for default bittorent client)
[06:54] <lupine_85> Konqueror->Settings->Mime-types->.torrent
[06:54] <kubunick> oh.
[06:54] <kubunick> lol.
[06:54] <lupine_85> set to be opened by your application of choice
[06:54] <aliasfred> Dcc port range support. from http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2004-December/000555.html
[06:54] <kubunick> alright, thx for the link.
[06:54] <kubunick> and I meant set it for the default when I use my web browser.
[06:56] <lontix> Hey!
[06:56] <kubunick> upgraded goop!
[06:56] <Goop2> yep :P
[06:56] <kubunick> it seems like I need linux support 24-7 :O
[06:56] <lontix> how do i open mp3 files?
[06:56] <Goop2> lol
[06:56] <aliasfred> kubunick: you could ask #konversation 'how to set up a dcc range port'
[06:56] <Goop2> Im still learning too
[06:57] <aliasfred> Sho_: aliasfred: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> DCC
[06:57] <aliasfred> aliasfred: settings->configure konversation->behavior->dcc->ports
[06:57] <aliasfred> i did it for you :)
[06:57] <Goop2> lontix: theres something about xine that you need to update or something.. I dont remember exactly
[06:58] <kubunick> aliasfred: thx, will try.
[06:58] <lontix> can't find out!
[06:58] <kubunick> aliasfred: sorry about that, was kind of busy
[06:58] <lupine_85> libxine-extraplugins ?
[06:58] <aliasfred> no problem
[06:59] <Goop2> anybody have any experience with wine?
[06:59] <lupine_85> goop2: a little
[06:59] <kubunick> aliasfred: alright, I've been there.. maybe I shouldn't enable those specific ports? I dunno.
[06:59] <lupine_85> distracted by http://rmitz.org/AYB3.swf atm though ;)
[06:59] <kubunick> aliasfred: what ports do you use?
[06:59] <Goop2> lupine_85: I tried installing soldat and it filled the screen with "err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!"
[07:00] <Goop2> oh
[07:00] <lupine_85> ;)
[07:00] <lupine_85> finished now
[07:00] <aliasfred> kubunick: you choose a port range for dcc in konversation, then you open those port in your firewall to reach your box, and it should work
[07:00] <aliasfred> kubunick: i dont use dcc
[07:00] <kubunick> aliasfred: so you can't accept file transfers?
[07:00] <lupine_85> not sure about the errormessage though... you could be better off asking a wine-specific support channel
[07:00] <kubunick> aliasfred: or is there another way?
[07:01] <aliasfred> kubunick: via irc ? i dont think i can
[07:01] <lupine_85> you'd have to be mad to accept a file from someone in irc ;)
[07:01] <lontix> how do i install VLC MediaPlayer?
[07:01] <Goop2> hehe
[07:01] <aliasfred> kubunick: another way to achieve what ?
[07:01] <kubunick> aliasfred: I just try to get fansubbed anime quicker but I guess I do need to..
[07:01] <Goop2> I was wondering if there was a wine chanel
[07:01] <kubunick> aliasfred: another way to achieve transfers.. I assume not though :P
[07:01] <aliasfred> kubunick: to transfert file via irc, dcc is the only way
[07:02] <kubunick> yup.
[07:02] <kubunick> aliasfred: is there another problem you can help me with?
[07:02] <tuxar> Someone use any wireless applet that shows the power of signal in the traybar ?
[07:02] <aliasfred> kubunick: just ask :)
[07:02] <aliasfred> i will answer if i can:)
[07:03] <kubunick> aliasfred: alright, it's not really a problem.  I extracted a tar file to my home directory and it just worked.. I though you had to go through all that configuring and make build checkinstall stuff? should it not work like that or is it just a fluke? lol.
[07:03] <Goop2> lupine_85: do you know what those channels are named?
[07:03] <aliasfred> kubunick: ok i get you want to compile a programm from its source
[07:03] <aliasfred> !compile
[07:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:03] <aliasfred> it is there for you :)
[07:04] <lupine_85> goop2: no sorry. There's a usenet group but thats all I've ever looked for
[07:04] <lupine_85> try the website - www.winehq.org (I think)
[07:04] <kubunick> aliasfred: so if you download the tar file it will work automagically?
[07:04] <Goop2> ok
[07:05] <bug2> Hi, does anyone know how to 'find' all files from $dir that were modified(not accessed!) after a certain date+time ?
[07:05] <aliasfred> kubunick: ? no :) a tar file is like a zip on window
[07:05] <JonTec> !graphviz
[07:05] <ubotu> graphviz: rich set of graph drawing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 919 kB, installed size 2700 kB
[07:05] <aliasfred> kubunick: you uncompress the data in it and then you compile it :)
[07:05] <lupine_85> bug2 : man find
[07:05] <kubunick> aliasfred: well, I extracted azureus and it worked automagically :P
[07:05] <bug2> lupine_85: not good enough :P
[07:05] <aliasfred> kubunick: because azureus team worked for that :)
[07:06] <lupine_85> I don't know the command line options for find off by heart, I'm afraid
[07:06] <aliasfred> kubunick: there are no standard about this i mean
[07:06] <lupine_85> that's what manpages are for
[07:06] <aliasfred> kubunick: it is not like .deb you get from apt-get
[07:06] <bug2> lupine_85: for getting someone confused i'll give you that :)
[07:06] <kubunick> aliasfred: lol, I see.  So the dev team would actually have to make it like that?
[07:06] <srdjant_slack> find . -mtime 2 -print
[07:06] <srdjant_slack> something like that
[07:06] <bug2> lupine_85: i can see -atime for access time and have no idea what 'status' is suppose to mean there
[07:07] <aliasfred> yep being easy to use and/or install is a hard job :) kubunick
[07:07] <srdjant_slack> but -mtime is in multiples of 24-hours AFAIK
[07:07] <bug2> srdjant_slack: err, how about all files newer than date(not file) august 2006
[07:07] <bug2> :)
[07:07] <srdjant_slack> it's all in the manpage
[07:07] <kubunick> aliasfred: I'm a linux noob :P regardless, the only real linux problem I have had is building from source or whatever you'd like to call it.
[07:08] <bug2> srdjant_slack:  i could use -newer file but i'll have to 'touch file' with date: aug 2006
[07:08] <Agios> ubuntu has made building from source a bit prolematic
[07:08] <Agios> problematic
[07:08] <srdjant_slack> bug2, yes
[07:09] <bug2> srdjant_slack: that's not what i want:) looking for ie. find / -newerthandate aug.2006
[07:09] <soon> Anyone here got TeamSpeak installed ... care to join my server for a test?
[07:09] <aliasfred> kubunick: the link i gave you will help you on this. but for beginner it is much easier to handle it with pakcage when possible
[07:09] <bug2> soon: me :)
[07:09] <srdjant_slack> bug2, that's exactly what that does
[07:09] <CVirus> soon: does it run natively on linux ?
[07:09] <bug2> srdjant_slack: yes but it's a workaround :) i thought i could use just find not 'touch' also
[07:09] <soon> should do
[07:10] <bug2> soon: i've ts installed, as a client
[07:10] <srdjant_slack> bug2, use kde's find program :)
[07:10] <soon> bug2: server is server1.teamspeak.dk:5401
[07:10] <charims> ok, sound isnt working :( i have no idea why, i have a slight hum from my speakers, and the alsamixer volume makes the hum get louder and quieter, also kmix balance can make the hum switch speakers, i have a Nvidia CK8 Using snd-intel8x0
[07:10] <soon> try user: lars and pass: lars
[07:10] <bug2> srdjant_slack: have no kde installed (fluxbox :))
[07:10] <kubunick> aliasfred: which package..? what do you mean?
[07:11] <srdjant_slack> bug2, fluxbox is cool :)
[07:11] <aliasfred> !deb
[07:11] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[07:11] <aliasfred> !apt-get
[07:11] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:11] <srdjant_slack> bug2, I think the choice is 1) use touch and find, or 2) use some other program like kde's find program.
[07:12] <aliasfred> kubunick: the above link will explain to you how to install and upgrade package easily in kubuntu
[07:12] <aliasfred> !adept
[07:12] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:12] <aliasfred> this tools make it very easy to handle
[07:13] <kubunick> aliasfred: hopefully I will get the hang of this eventually.. thanks for your help :P
[07:13] <aliasfred> no problem :)
[07:13] <soon> thanks bug2 (I take it youre z1 ... )
[07:15] <bug2> srdjant_slack: well all right; thanks very much
[07:15] <bug2> soon: neat :)
[07:15] <soon> it seems to work ... :-)
[07:15] <bug2> soon: btw, there's teamspeak for linux too :) but u knew that
[07:15] <soon> Just bought some new Sennheiser PC150 headsets (7 pairs)
[07:15] <aliasfred> \http://www.novell.com/video/ <- offtopic but fun, the marketing video for linux :)
[07:16] <soon> I know its there for Linux ... most of the guys I talk to use Windoze though ...
[07:16] <bug2> soon: ah all right; makes sense now; the test.
[07:16] <sleeptyper> excuse me being such a n00b - can Ark extract .rar s?
[07:17] <soon> if you thank the Novell video is fun and off topic .. try this : http://www.bigfun.be/Movie/Ursula%2BMartinez.htm
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[07:17] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> sleeptyper,  install the rar binaries. and it can
[07:17] <soon> (please note: some frontal nudity), but not offensive in any way ...
[07:18] <draik> Anyone know of any good FPS games for Kubuntu?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> draik,  RTCW:ET and Trembulus
[07:18] <sleeptyper> well, i think i'll move the .rar to my XP machine, where it was intended in the first place
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> tremulus or somthing like that. :P
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> sleeptyper,  or ya can use wine and winrar. :)
[07:18] <draik> Thank you Dr_Willis
[07:18] <sleeptyper> :)
[07:19] <sleeptyper> thanks for advice
[07:19] <larson9999> sleeptyper: yes if you have unrar installed ark will handle it just fine
[07:21] <MarsRouter> hi
[07:21] <MarsRouter> jasper ??? any one have idea ho wto install it by apy
[07:21] <sleeptyper> k, unrar-free installed :)
[07:21] <srdjant_slack> winrar = rubbish
[07:22] <srdjant_slack> get unrar, compile and away you go :)
[07:23] <charims> nada srdjant
[07:23] <srdjant_slack> charims, :(
[07:23] <charims> not srdjant_slack just srdjant
[07:23] <srdjant_slack> charims, srdjant and srdjant_slack are the same person.
[07:24] <charims> really
[07:24] <srdjant> yes
[07:24] <charims> oh,, news to me...
[07:24] <charims> :)
[07:24] <srdjant> lol
[07:24] <sleeptyper> srdjant_slack, i try to avoid "wine + some prog i really need" as long as possible :)
[07:24] <charims> why log in with 2 names?
[07:24] <srdjant> this is me on my kubuntu laptop
[07:24] <charims> oh, haha
[07:24] <charims> i get it
[07:24] <srdjant_slack> this is me on my slackware desktop
[07:24] <charims> u trixter
[07:24] <guester> I have a corrupt ext3 partition
[07:24] <guester> fsck put some stuff on lost+found
[07:25] <guester> and the rest it seems to have ignored
[07:25] <charims> well, i think im going to post a bug report on bugzilla or whatever its called
[07:25] <draik> Dr_Willis, For the Linux people, Tremulous has also made it into Debian unstable, Ubuntu Edgy
[07:25] <draik> How can I get it from Debian unstable or Ubuntu Edgy?
[07:25] <charims> ok, well, ill ttyl
[07:25] <charims> bye bye
[07:25] <srdjant> good luck charims
[07:25] <charims> ty
[07:26] <whatever> Hey, how can eth0 be disabled/enabled from cmd, instead of using kcontrol i.e
[07:26] <srdjant_slack> whatever, ifconfig eth0 down
[07:26] <srdjant_slack> then ifconfig eth0 up
[07:27] <whatever> srdjant_slack: Thanks a tonne!
[07:27] <srdjant_slack> annoying that microsoft has named their shell 'cmd', now everyone uses it as a shorthand for 'command line'
[07:27] <srdjant_slack> whatever, you're welcome :)
[07:28] <srdjant_slack> irc - the biggest time sink on the face of the planet, even out-ranks Big Brother tv series :P
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> annoying that MS refers to their gui as the 'shell' :) well  the litestep guys do at least.
[07:29] <sleeptyper> srdjant_slack, maybe because (k)ubuntu is the easiest distro for transtioning from windows to linux, so many (k)ubuntu users tend to mix up terms
[07:29] <sleeptyper> transitioning*
[07:29] <srdjant_slack> well in a way it's a shell to the os, but the line between OS and shell seems to have been blurred in recent times
[07:30] <redondo81> someone know how to play a dvd-film?
[07:30] <Agios> xine, mplayer, totem, pick you app
[07:30] <jujurackham> hello ! i'm a newbie in the world of kubuntu (i'm french) -> for the moment it looks great
[07:30] <fluke777> Hi all I ve just upgraded from breezy to dapper everythong is quite fine except I am unable to switch mu keyboard layouts using shortcuts I remember this being pain in breezy as well. Has someone any idea where to look ?
[07:30] <srdjant_slack> sleeptyper, I know what you are saying, and I agree. However that's ot what I was talking about. Microsoft did not (AFAIK) name their shell to 'cmd' so it will help windows users convert to kununtu....
[07:31] <lupine_85> cmd rather than command ? ;)
[07:31] <redondo81> I have kaffeine but when I lunch the dvd there's an error
[07:31] <srdjant_slack> well whatever they would have chosen
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> redondo81,  you mean a normal movie dvd?
[07:32] <sleeptyper> command was a fossil from DOS-days
[07:32] <redondo81> yes
[07:32] <srdjant_slack> could have calles it dos_box or something
[07:32] <grothesk> redondo81: Would you be so nice to tell us which error?
[07:32] <lupine_85> command is what you had in ME 98 95 3.1 etc
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> !dvd
[07:32] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:32] <sleeptyper> 3.1 ran ontop of DOS (it required DOS for disc access etc...)
[07:33] <redondo81> kaffeine say that it was aneble to read the dvd, because I don't have the rights to read it
[07:33] <lupine_85> so did 95 and 98 ;)
[07:33] <srdjant_slack> and ME
[07:33] <sleeptyper> but in "less way"
[07:33] <lupine_85> almost to the same extent
[07:33] <lupine_85> using DOS INT codes, etc.
[07:34] <guester> what do I need to compile on Kubuntu?
[07:34] <lupine_85> (at least, at the kernel level)
[07:34] <lupine_85> guester: build-essential
[07:34] <draik> I get an error when installing a .deb package...
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> plus whatever dev files the source needs
[07:34] <draik> here is my pastebin if someone can help...
[07:34] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21711
[07:34] <guester> was that for me, lupine_85?
[07:34] <redondo81> I havo to go now, have a good week and
[07:35] <guester> nm
[07:35] <guester> hmm
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> draik,  that tremulus package is for the beta-edgy release.. not the current dapper
[07:36] <draik> not usable, huh?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> go to the tremulus homepage and install it from their packages
[07:38] <draik> how do I install a *.run file?
[07:38] <draik> !run
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <srdjant_slack> it's ususally a shell script
[07:39] <srdjant_slack> just run it as normal
[07:39] <aliasfred> draik: do 'sh ./younamr.run'
[07:39] <draik> So I would do    'sh ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run'   ?
[07:39] <srdjant_slack> which download pages?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> bingo.
[07:40] <Goop2> whats a .run file?
[07:40] <srdjant_slack> file blah.run
[07:40] <srdjant_slack> it will tell you
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> srdjant_slack,  about every download ive seen tht give ya a .run file mention right above the link how to run it. :P
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> its just a self-running installer. it could actually be almost anything. :)
[07:40] <draik> srdjant_slack, here is the site
[07:40] <draik> http://tremulous.net/index.php?section=files
[07:40] <Goop2> oh
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> tremulous always makes me SOOOOOOOOOO dizzy
[07:41] <draik> Version 1.1.0
[07:41] <srdjant_slack> Dr_Willis, i've never seen or noticed those, but I knew that I should investigate the file so you run file <filename> and head -20 <filename> and you quickly learn stuff.
[07:41] <Goop2> so.. go open it from konqueror right?
[07:42] <srdjant_slack> shell
[07:42] <srdjant_slack> konsolw
[07:42] <Goop2> with a single line console?
[07:42] <Goop2> oh
[07:42] <srdjant_slack> s/w/e
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> run the command sh ./whateveritscalled.run :P
[07:43] <grothesk> Schon mal wer 'londonlaw' gespielt?
[07:43] <Goop2> anybody know what sort of install directory to use when installing something with wine?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> wine normally has a .wine directory, that keeps a 'fake windows partition' in it.
[07:44] <Goop2> oh
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> and thats normally assigned to be C: by the default wine configs
[07:44] <Goop2> ok
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:44] <Timmmm> Goop2: If you use c:\foo\bar it goes to ~/.wine/drive_c/foo/bar
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> plus they got some creative links and configs in that dir and wine configs
[07:44] <Timmmm> Goop2: There is probably also a y: or z: drive which corresponds to /
[07:44] <srdjant_slack> grothesk, nein deutsch bitte.
[07:44] <Goop2> ok so I wont have a problem installing it like that then.. thanks :D
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> and the windows 'desktop' is often linked to the /home/user/desktop
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> its amazing how trivial wine is to use these days
[07:45] <grothesk> srdjant: Excuse me. Wrong window.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> as compared to say.. 4+ yrs ago.
[07:45] <srdjant_slack> grothesk, hehe ok :)
[07:45] <Goop2> ooh.. so I can do a z:/goop2/games or something like that?
[07:45] <guester> WINE is pointless =p
[07:45] <Timmmm> Is there a way to force the order of sound cards with linux? I have alsa set up to go to hw:2,0  but often when I start my computer card 0 and card 2 are swapped!  Any solution?
[07:45] <Timmmm> Goop2: Yeah
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Goop2,  just let it install to the program files directory. theres noo need to get fancy with it.
[07:45] <srdjant_slack> guester, wine is awesome
[07:46] <srdjant_slack> i can play tiberian sun and counter-strike with it
[07:46] <Timmmm> guester: Yeah wine is cool. Used to suck but its pretty good these days.
[07:46] <Goop2> well I kinda wanted it in my home folder :P
[07:46] <Goop2> whatever
[07:46] <guester> there's no use for WINE
[07:46] <Timmmm> There is
[07:46] <guester> anything worth running is already native
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> there's no use for trolls.
[07:46] <Timmmm> bollocks.
[07:46] <guester> except maybe VirtualDub
[07:46] <Goop2> what about soldat??
[07:46] <guester> Goop2: I said worth running =p
[07:46] <Timmmm> Goop2: I couldn't get that to work...
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> so does everyong got Tremulous going yet?
[07:47] <Goop2> I wanna play games with my friends, but they use windows
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:47] <guester> Goop2: play Freeciv or Armagetron
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> i want to shoot people.
[07:47] <guester> Quake
[07:47] <Timmmm> Yeah the original quake is awesome, too bad no-one plays it who isn't ridiculously good anymore.
[07:47] <Goop2> lol
[07:47] <guester> Timmmm: I'm not ridiculously good
[07:47] <aliasfred> tremulous is for window too
[07:47] <guester> tho I only play the RuneQuake mod
[07:48] <Timmmm> ET is good too.
[07:48] <srdjant> Cube and Sauerbaten (or however it's spelt)
[07:48] <Timmmm> But still, Goop2 is right, linux isn't good for games.
[07:48] <lupine_85> getting better
[07:49] <Timmmm> lupine_85: Very slowly, eg see my sound question above! Would never happen on windows.
[07:49] <guester> it's fine for gamers with morals
[07:49] <Goop2> Timmmm: I didnt say that.. I just said I cant play games with windows users
[07:50] <srdjant_slack> well you also have unreal torunament
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> games are for the weak.
[07:50] <srdjant_slack> i wish clanbomber had network play
[07:51] <lupine_85> most of my favourites run in wine or cedega; some even have native versions :)
[07:51] <lupine_85> but yes, sound is a mess
[07:51] <srdjant_slack> Dr_Willis, how you you entertain yourself?
[07:51] <guester> Armagetron is addictive
[07:51] <lupine_85> entertainment is for the weak ;)
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> IRC!
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:52] <srdjant_slack> lol
[07:52] <srdjant_slack> so you like to LART people?
[07:52] <Goop2> I dont usualy play games, but I do if my friends want to
[07:52] <srdjant_slack> duke3d is native linux now
[07:53] <draik> I can't play the game... here is my error
[07:53] <draik> ./tremulous: error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:53] <srdjant_slack> install openal
[07:53] <aliasfred> well install openal :)
[07:53] <srdjant_slack> :)
[07:53] <aliasfred> i play tremulous on kubuntu, so you will achieve it :)
[07:53] <aliasfred> my record is 196 kills, beat me :)
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> i am allready dizy from playing  tremulous  ...
[07:54] <aliasfred> i look for you on the field :)
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> tremulous is the kind of game where only 5% of the people playing have ANY CLUE whats going on.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> and  5% think they know.. and the rest are  clueless.. :P
[07:55] <aliasfred> on akka, the ratio is much higher
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> and all the alien players are all so seasick from the wallclimbing they cant even  move.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:55] <aliasfred> the alien are really strong on akka, they do know what they are doing :)
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> http://tremulous.net/index.php?section=about
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> its so much fun to join a game and be on a side where no one knows whats going on.. but the other side is  all in the same dorm room. :P so can just yell at each other...
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> http://tremulous.net/index.php?section=about
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> id rather see a nice Free Team FOrtress kind of spin-off :)
[07:57] <pontos> when removing a program with Adept not all libraries etc are removed
[07:57] <leileilol> yeah same here hehheh
[07:57] <leileilol> preferably quake-based or so, a whole from scratch rewrite of the TF game code using the GPL QuakeC code
[07:57] <pontos> it there a utility that removes everything assosiated with a deleted program?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> pontos,  its possble that many other apps are using those libs as well.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> I guess the Half Life guys are working on a team Fortress kind of thing.. but (#*@*@*@  Halflife and valve and their stupid STEAM stuff
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:01] <pontos> yes, that's true, but that should be job of the package manager to manage
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> read up on apt-get and learn all about it.
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> i think thats why adapitude was written
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> i never can spell that right
[08:02] <pontos> i'm using adept, aptitude is for gnome, isn't it?
[08:02] <Bazzi> aptitude is console-based
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> aptitude is a little rough in some areas also.
[08:03] <pontos> ok, so aptitude is the right tool to get rid of stuff, old libs etc
[08:03] <Bazzi> aptitude is great
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> but i rarely mess with it.. and i rarely uninstall stuff.
[08:03] <Bazzi> it's a real improvement over apt-get in some areas and the GUI stuff currently doesn't come close to it
[08:03] <pontos> i have a small disk on my laptop, so i have to remove things
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> im not sure you can just start using aptitude and it will  do all that.. if you were using apitude to INSTALL everything. then  i think it rembers/logs that info.
[08:04] <Bazzi> OK, smart is also OK :)
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> ive heard about 'smart' but never used it yet.
[08:04] <pontos> i also love to try lot's of programs, but would like to remove it afterwords
[08:04] <sorush20> hi guys how do I install documentaion pakcages for quanta plus in kubuntu dapper? I can't find anything relevant in the repositories..
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> http://labix.org/smart
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> for smart. :P
[08:05] <pontos> but is aptitude compatible with adept?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> its a front end ot the apt-get system like all the rest.
[08:05] <pontos> can they be used interchangably?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> adept is just a fancy kde front end.
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> aptitude has some better features in that it keeps track of whats installed better (i hear)
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[08:06] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:06] <pontos> ok, so everything works on the same info / package database (apt / dpkg)?
[08:07] <Zamboulie> hey
[08:07] <Zamboulie> anyone need help?
[08:09] <ironfroggy> what am i doing wrong if k3b sees a blank CD as "media type: Unknown" and refuses to write to it?
[08:10] <RawSewage> ironfroggy, maybe the CD is upside down
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:10] <pontos> does anyone know when kubuntu will support kernel 2.6.16 ?
[08:11] <ironfroggy> RawSewage: it is not
[08:11] <RawSewage> ironfroggy, is it mounted
[08:11] <ironfroggy> nope
[08:11] <RawSewage> try mounting it
[08:11] <ironfroggy> its a blank CD...
[08:11] <RawSewage> dont you still have to mount it
[08:12] <ironfroggy> you cant mount a blank CD, no.
[08:12] <ironfroggy> its just a device. it has no file system.
[08:14] <_bbeck> pontos: I think currently edgy eft is running 2.6.17, out of curiousity what's in 2.6.16 that you're waiting for?
[08:19] <lupine_85> kubuntu never will. compile your own ;)
[08:20] <Dasnipa] [> lupine_85, that made no sense
[08:21] <Agios> new kernel, new nvidia drivers :)
[08:23] <pontos> well, just curious, other destros are running kernel 2.6.16, e.g. suse and fedora
[08:24] <crimsun> kubuntu 6.06.1 uses 2.6.15
[08:24] <CVirus> so ?
[08:24] <crimsun> + a ton of patches
[08:24] <Stardog> how to browse directory as superuser in kubuntu?
[08:24] <CVirus> Stardog: kdesu konqueror
[08:25] <Stardog> thx CVirus :D
[08:26] <Agios> crimsun: how would one determine the patches applied to the ubuntu kernels?
[08:27] <crimsun> Agios: short or long answer?
[08:27] <Agios> try the short first :)
[08:27] <crimsun> Agios: diff(1)
[08:27] <CVirus> Stardog: no problem
[08:27] <Agios> lol
[08:27] <pontos> hehe
[08:27] <Agios> so it's not published
[08:28] <crimsun> Agios: in what sense?