[07:11] <HymnToLife> gameover, maybe it's not wlan0, do   sudo iwconfig            to find out what the IF name is
[07:11] <xtknight> xmOD: you did sudo?
[07:11] <xmOD> dont u think it should be /dev/sda1
[07:11] <xmOD> yeh
[07:11] <xtknight> xmOD: no
[07:11] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: I know that the monitor supports 1200x800, at least under windows.
[07:11] <xtknight> xmOD: that will overwrite windows boot loader completely
[07:11] <xaaax> How can i change vga resolution on the command line?
[07:11] <xmOD> oh
[07:11] <xtknight> xmOD: we just need to overwrite first part of it
[07:11] <gameover> i have no card with wireless extension in iwconfig
[07:11] <eitan> xtknight: here's lspci -vv http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/354/
[07:11] <xtknight> xmOD: well it may boot anyway.  just it's messy with /mnt/linux/boot/boot
[07:11] <stefg> xaaax: you don't
[07:11] <xmOD> so now wat?
[07:11] <gameover> help plz!! =S
[07:12] <HymnToLife> gameover, then your wireless is not detected
[07:12] <bieb> here is the issue I am having... I converted my father over to Ubuntu, I am trying to configure his modem for dialup connection. I have downloaded and installed sl-modem-daemon, but wvdial keeps failing
[07:12] <xtknight> xmOD: can you try the last command one more time?
[07:12] <HymnToLife> gameover, have you done           sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiwsrapper         ?
[07:12] <xmOD> hm.. ok
[07:12] <bieb> I have had no luck with gnome-ppp either
[07:12] <gameover> but ndiswrapper says hardware present
[07:12] <xmOD> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/linux /dev/sda
[07:12] <xtknight> xmOD: and then post the whole error into pastebin
[07:12] <xtknight> xmOD: yes
[07:12] <xmOD> this one right?
[07:12] <xmOD> ok
[07:12] <gameover> yep i did
[07:13] <stefg> !modem | bieb
[07:13] <ubotu> bieb: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[07:13] <xtknight> eitan: enable "Intel PIIX/ICH SATA Support" and "AHCI SATA Support"...and then ill check and see if there anything else needed
[07:13] <eitan> xtknight: okay
[07:13] <xtknight> eitan: enable "Generic ATA support"
[07:13] <xmOD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/356/plain/
[07:13] <bieb> Stefg, that is where I got the info for sl-modem-dialup
[07:13] <xmOD> thats our whole attempt
[07:13] <xtknight> eitan: and enable the rest of the intel stuff you see
[07:13] <Duesentrieb> Ralth: 1200x800 or 1280x800?...
[07:13] <bieb> sl-modem-daemon I mean
[07:13] <twisties> ubotu: #
[07:13] <twisties> In the package manager, select the Settings menu, then Repositories.
[07:13] <twisties> #
[07:13] <twisties> In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button.
[07:13] <twisties>          - There is no add button :S
[07:14] <xtknight> xmOD: odd.  can you post the output of 'sudo fdisk -l` again
[07:14] <xmOD> its in the paste
[07:14] <xmOD> see the top
[07:14] <eitan> xtknight: there's 2 other intel things about PATAs
[07:14] <stefg> bieb: try the -386 kernel and -386 restricted packages... My laptops internal ltmodem works with -386, but fails with -generic
[07:14] <xtknight> xmOD: yeah we need to do it again to see if the layout changec
[07:14] <Ralth> Duesentrieb: AH!  That could be the problem.  I didn't notice that difference.
[07:14] <xtknight> eitan: enable those too, cant hurt, they are small modules
[07:14] <bieb> for the sl-modem-daemon?
[07:15] <georgy> gameover : you find ndiswrapper when you do the lsmod command ?
[07:15] <stefg> !linux-image-386
[07:15] <eitan> xtknight: should I select "support for SATA (deprecated)" in the ATA/ATAPI... menu too?
[07:15] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:15] <xmOD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/357/plain/
[07:15] <xtknight> eitan: no
[07:15] <stefg> !linux-restricted-modules-386
[07:15] <eitan> xtknight: okay
[07:15] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-386: Restricted Linux modules on 386.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:15] <Zta> How do I make my box use ipv4 instead of ipv6?
[07:15] <eitan> xtknight: going to compile it
[07:15] <xtknight> xmOD: well reboot and see if it works
[07:15] <gameover> yes
[07:15] <xtknight> eitan: ok
[07:15] <xmOD> u think it'll work?
[07:15] <bieb> stefg, I installed 6.05
[07:15] <bieb> 6.06
[07:15] <xtknight> xmOD: most likely.  if not u can still use the livecd
[07:16] <Zta> Can I simply add "ipv6" to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[07:16] <xtknight> !ipv6
[07:16] <KenSentMe> Can i use network-manager-gnome for connecting to a wireless network that uses peap and mchap?
[07:16] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:16] <stefg> bieb: wjhat does uname -r tell you?
[07:16] <Zta> thanks
[07:16] <xmOD> and if it does'nt work then u want me to boot through the live cd? otherwise if i have to boot into ubuntu then i'd have to disconnect the windows HDD
[07:16] <xtknight> xmOD: correct , boot thru livecd
[07:16] <bieb> 2.6.15-27-386
[07:16] <gameover> :S
[07:17] <gameover>  ndiswrapper (load_sys_files:215): couldn't prepare driver 'bcmwl5'
[07:17] <gameover> thats what dmesg says
[07:17] <stefg> bieb: ok... so you have linux-restricted-modules-386 installed?
[07:17] <gameover> any clue?
[07:17] <bieb> stefg.. how can I verify?
[07:17] <Aggort> Is it wise or safe at all to install Ubuntu on the same hard drive as Windows?
[07:18] <xtknight> Aggort: no
[07:18] <xtknight> Aggort: well not the same partition
[07:18] <xtknight> Aggort: same hd diff partition fine
[07:18] <Aggort> Well duh
[07:18] <stefg> bieb: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-386
[07:18] <nikin> i have problems installing Edgy on an Asrock i845G  based motherbord... with windows it just runs fine. but with Ubuntu it hangs at the boot process
[07:18] <Aggort> lol
[07:18] <Aggort> I know that
[07:18] <xtknight> haha
[07:18] <Aggort> I am not a total noob
[07:18] <twisties> !nvidia
[07:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:19] <bieb> stefg... say it is already the newest version
[07:19] <stefg> nikin: you'll have to pass the acpi=off parameter at boot
[07:20] <nikin> stefg: i tryed that, but didnt work. but i try it again
[07:20] <stefg> bieb: so the slmodem daemon is run at bootup? Is /dev/modem created?
[07:21] <Aggort> Let me explain...  I have a macbook but want to start running Linux for quicker access and a faster OS than Windows. But, when I installed Ubuntu on the same hard drive over another partition before Ubuntu realy screwed up. I cou;dn't acvcess Ubuntu at all it'd get to the login screena nd when I'd login it would lock up. Next I tried accessing Windows and...
[07:21] <Aggort> ...it wouldn't load. It'd take me to a blue screen flash and reboot. So I've been nervous to install Ubuntu ever again. But now I want to try with 6.10 and all and wanted to get some better help before trying to install it all alone!
[07:21] <theyaga_> hi everyone :) .We in our GLUG intend to build a custom distribution based on debian ,can anyone point to me some nice HOW-TO`s to build a debian based distro
[07:21] <Aggort> I'd love to install it on ym ahrd drive instead of jsut using the live CD cus I assume it's much faster.
[07:22] <nikin> tefg: the Kernel panics and i get a calltrace
[07:22] <xmOD> PROBLEM!
[07:22] <bieb> stefg.. as far as I can tell it runs at startup, and there is a /dev/modem
[07:22] <xmOD> can i talk to you in chat xtkight?
[07:22] <xtknight> xmOD: sure
[07:22] <Aggort> So any advice?
[07:22] <xtknight> Aggort: not sure.  i have never installed linux on a mac
[07:22] <bieb> if I run gnome-ppp and in the config I tell it to locate modem it finds it, it lists ttySL0
[07:22] <Aggort> No no this is on a windows PC
[07:22] <fox_> has anyone tryed to install a teamspeak server ??
[07:22] <jugUT> how can I install grub from the 6.10 ubuntu livecd?
[07:23] <stefg> bieb: ok, so the common stuff is checked... since ltmodem runs nicely out of the box with 386-kernels i never had to troubleshoot..
[07:23] <Aggort> It's an AMD64 processor, Nvidia 6600 graphics card and a gig of RAM 80 gig hard drive.
[07:23] <bieb> This is why I hate dialup
[07:24] <jugUT> xtknight; it looks like I had grub installed to my second hdd... it won't boot windows without the second hdd.  Do you remember helping me a little bit ago?
[07:24] <Aggort> I want to install it but withou messing up my Windows partition again
[07:24] <Ralth> It looks like I have the i815 driver for my Intel 915 graphics card.  How do I get the right driver?
[07:24] <xtknight> jugUT: i think so *hallucinating*...
[07:24] <bieb> any other modem/dialup gurus here?
[07:24] <xtknight> jugUT: you may have to debrief me on it briefly again
[07:25] <Music_Shuffle> Aggort, on the macbook install, did you use...the PPC edition? O_o
[07:25] <Aggort> I never tried with my macbook
[07:25] <Music_Shuffle> Ahh. ok.
[07:25] <Aggort> it was my PC I tried it on lol
[07:25] <Music_Shuffle> To not messup your WIndows partition...
[07:25] <Music_Shuffle> !dualboot | Aggort
[07:25] <ubotu> Aggort: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:25] <jugUT> I have 2 hard drives hda with windows and hdb with ubuntu.  I took out the ubuntu entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst and tried to boot without hdb being present.  it did not work
[07:26] <jugUT> I get grub error 21
[07:26] <stefg> Aggort: Given that your partition table isn't broken already ubuntu should install just fine side by side with win... and in case you want your original MBR back, all you have to do is bootup the win-install-CD to rescue-console and 'fixmbr'
[07:26] <xtknight> jugUT: hmmmm, odd.
[07:26] <twisties> Anyone feel like running me through setting up nVidia driver? seeing the ubuntu documentation page shows incorrect steps
[07:26] <nikin> i get Kernel Panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt
[07:26] <Aggort> Stefg: Yea, I learned that this time around.
[07:26] <jugUT> stefg; I need to do something like that, but I do not have an xp cd - is there an alternative?
[07:26] <albert> ubuntu-fr
[07:26] <Ralth> It looks like I have the i815 driver for my Intel 915 graphics card.  How do I get the right driver?
[07:27] <gameover> trying to compile ndiswrapper i get this error:
[07:27] <gameover> bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: not found
[07:27] <xtknight> can you replace a UUID= with a block device to boot on Edgy?
[07:27] <houman> hi there, does anyone know what the "&" does when you run a command in bash with the "&" after it?
[07:27] <gameover> someone can help?
[07:27] <stefg> jugUT: yes... format the win partiton and get a OS on the free space :-)
[07:27] <Aggort> Would it be a good idea to run the Live CD first to see if Ubuntu will actually load this time?
[07:27] <nikin> houman: it detaches the program from the console
[07:28] <jugUT> ohh no stefg... it's my g/f's comp she would kill me and then there would be one less linux advocate in the world
[07:28] <houman> nikin: do you know whats the equivalent in DOS? i need to write a batch script with the commands running simultanouesly like in bash with the "&" but the "&" doesnt work there
[07:28] <jugUT> it's a silly dell and she doesn't know where the recovery cds are anyway
[07:29] <stefg> jugUT: you need a bootable rescue medium for Windows... even a win98 bootfloppy can do fdisk /mbr
[07:29] <jugUT> is there a way to fix grub on the mbr throgh a live cd?
[07:29] <donnatello> hi everyone we at our GLUG would want to build on a distro based on ubuntu/debian.can anyone throw up some useful pointers to it ?
[07:29] <nikin> houman: DOS is a sigle user single task OS so forget it
[07:29] <jugUT> I'm ok with using grub just without linux being present
[07:29] <xtknight> How do I get the UUID for a block device?
[07:29] <west_coast> ANYONE FROM GREECE?
[07:29] <stefg> !grub
[07:29] <houman> nikin: yes but i am running it inside windows, its not a real DOS environment,
[07:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:29] <xtknight> !gr | west_coast
[07:29] <ubotu> west_coast: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[07:29] <stefg> !gr | west_coast
[07:30] <Aggort> Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the file I want for my PC? ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[07:31] <twisties> can anyone help with nVidia driver install? Ubuntu guide seems to have wrong steps :(
[07:31] <stefg> Aggort: consider 32-bit if you want to avoid trouble
[07:31] <georgy> Aggort : try the alternte cd
[07:31] <nikin> houman: i ame not a real windows geek , so i dont know... sorry
[07:31] <Aggort> stefg: K
[07:31] <stefg> Aggort: 6.06.1-alternate-i386
[07:32] <xtknight> !pastebin
[07:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:32] <Aggort> stefg: But I have AMD processor
[07:32] <burwaco> hello everyone
[07:32] <Aggort> AMD64
[07:32] <burwaco> Is there a way to display pictures with elinks ? without an Xserver ?
[07:32] <stefg> Aggort: which is a flavor of i386
[07:33] <Aggort> stedg: Why the alternate? I don't want to install right away, I want to make sure that the live version is going to run first. If that doesn't then there really isn't a reason for me to install right?
[07:33] <stefg> !links2 | burwaco
[07:33] <ubotu> burwaco: Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[07:33] <stefg> !info links2 | burwaco
[07:33] <ubotu> links2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre23-1 (edgy), package size 2009 kB, installed size 3224 kB
[07:33] <nikin>  i did acpi=off and my kernel still panics with "not syncing Fatal exception in interrupt" EIP is at clear_local_APIC+0x21/0xC0
[07:33] <xaaax> Is is possible to divide the command line in small buffers like vim or emacs
[07:33] <xaaax> ?
[07:34] <xtknight> nikin: you need to disable apic maybe not acpi
[07:34] <Aggort> stefg: Why the alternate? I don't want to install right away, I want to make sure that the live version is going to run first. If that doesn't then there really isn't a reason for me to install right?    lol I typoed
[07:34] <xtknight> nikin: `noapic nolapic` paramters
[07:34] <nikin> ok 1 sec
[07:34] <NoEvidenZ> !nvidia
[07:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:35] <Aggort> I mean what is the difference between Alterante and the regular Decktop CD?
[07:35] <stefg> Aggort: ok, the take Desktop... but the Desktop installer is not as good and fast as the alternate one. But in for a testdrive the Desktop will do
[07:35] <sa_morenita> ola!!
[07:35] <stefg> !es
[07:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:36] <stefg> !ct
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ct - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <Aggort> stefg: Thank you! Am I correct though by saying that if the Live Desktop doesn't work than the installed version won't either?
[07:36] <stefg> hehe... no catalan
[07:37] <stefg> Aggort: that depends... might be your graphics isn't auto-setup correctly, but the in the installed version you can fix that... itb really depends on /wht's/ not working
[07:37] <Aggort> Oh I understand
[07:38] <nikin> xtknight: noapic and lopaic doesnot work... i get the same error
[07:38] <kampret77> [need assistance Dapper Wireless M2n Asus]
[07:38] <Aggort> Well before it was my log in. I couldn't get past the desktop. All that would load was the tan background and nothing else. It sucked
[07:38] <nikin> oh sorrys
[07:38] <xtknight> nikin: nolapic not lopaic ;)
[07:38] <gameover> bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: not found
[07:38] <gameover> help?
[07:39] <Aggort> I still ahve no clue why that happened
[07:39] <kampret77> [need assistance to set up WLAN in dapper]
[07:39] <nikin> not the same... this time: Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init the EIP is the same
[07:39] <Ralth> Has anyone used 915resolution before?
[07:39] <stefg> !wifi | kampret77
[07:39] <ubotu> kampret77: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:39] <kampret77> yup yup yup
[07:39] <xtknight> nikin: hmm not sure.  what type of machine do you have?
[07:39] <nikin> xt: i have writen that.. sry i did here a typo
[07:39] <kampret77> I am aware but I face something strange
[07:39] <killown> anyone know any simulator guitar effects software?
[07:40] <xtknight> nikin: oh.  ok try `acpi=off noapic nolapic`  (all of those)
[07:40] <nikin> intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron
[07:40] <burwaco> well that didn't really help, my question was: how can I display images in webpages without an x-server
[07:40] <xtknight> nikin: or try disabling apic and acpi in the bios if that doesnt work
[07:40] <sleepy5432> My computer wont't turn off when I try to turn it off, it goes black and the computer is stilll running, any suggestions?
[07:40] <killown> anyone know any simulator guitar effects software?
[07:41] <NoEvidenZ> !fixres
[07:41] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:41] <kyncani> sleepy5432: reboot and check the logs /var/log/syslog
[07:41] <NoEvidenZ> Does ubuuntu support widescreen resolutions, or would i need new drivers for that or something?
[07:42] <roler> How can I make Edgy's Firefox 2.0 Form buttons and text fields look like that of my Gnome's GTK2 desktop?
[07:42] <nikin> it hangs.... but no error message... it didnt freezes just it does nothing more.
[07:43] <xtknight> nikin: what type of PC do you have?
[07:43] <nikin> intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron
[07:43] <xyzzyx> anywone seen this with mplayer? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:44] <houman> nikin: thanks ok :) i dont use windows either, its for a school computer, i couldnt find a solution so i made two bash files instead of one, thanks for your help
[07:44] <xyzzyx> believe it is when using latest xorg distribution that something has changed name
[07:44] <xyzzyx> xorg.log shows (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[07:44] <nikin> houman: np
[07:44] <xyzzyx> so, no XFree86 at the start
[07:45] <roflarn> ello i followed the vnc tutorial ( http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-remote-desktop-with-vnc4server.html ) , does anyone know how i can switch it so it uses the active session on the pc?
[07:46] <gregcha117> can someone tell me how to get quicktime media working in firefox?
[07:46] <bieb> stefg... what else can I try for dialup? I have tried wvdial and gnome-ppp
[07:46] <svish> !c++ | svish
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <svish> alrighty then...
[07:47] <svish> !compiler
[07:47] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:48] <disasm> whats the best way to upgrade sarge to ubuntu with only 1 reboot? I was thinking of removing almost all packages from sarge, changing repositories update; dist-upgrade, install ubuntu-desktop, run bash script to add any custom packages and make any custom changes, but hardest part with that is removing all the packages I possibly can without breaking apt
[07:50] <garret> looking for help with packaging, we have an application that is a deb package and needs mysql access, how do we create it so that it ask the pertinant infos and creates the database?
[07:50] <stephank> Hello. (In feisty) does anyone know how to launch azureus with the console UI? Simply running "azureus --ui=console" briefly shows the swt UI and then closes with no traceback.
[07:50] <kyncani> disasm: you don't upgrade from debian to ubuntu, just install ubuntu
[07:50] <HymnToLife> disasm, that's pretty much equivelent to a reinstall to me
[07:51] <svish> hmm.. that didnt help... how do I compile simple sourcecode?
[07:51] <HymnToLife> but far more troublesome
[07:51] <svish> c++
[07:51] <HymnToLife> !compile
[07:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:51] <svish> HymnToLife: that didnt help me. it said make. I wrote the cpp file myself. dont have any make
[07:52] <aoupi> svish: g++ -o appname source.cpp
[07:52] <svish> thanks :)
[07:52] <garret> any help from anybody in creating a deb package?
[07:52] <aoupi> no problem
[07:53] <Jaak_> how do i change the kubuntu look in ubuntu
[07:53] <shreeve> is there a channel for fiesty talk?
[07:53] <Jaak_> for example how do i make kaffeine look human-gnomisch?
[07:54] <philip__> shreeve, #ubuntu+1
[07:54] <javb> Installed Ndiswrapper, installed my wifi card (Broadcom 4311) and started using it with no problem. But, after  a minutes.. it just STOPS working. any ideas guys ?
[07:54] <sleepy5432> kynconi, I can't even reboot my pc
[07:54] <m0dY> how to get a command auto executed everytime i chroot to a jail'd environment
[07:55] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[07:56] <disasm> kyncani, HymnToLife: yes, I know a reinstall would be better, but I have to do this to 75 computers, all of which have custom fstabs and network setups. I'm doing this on a pilot machine so I can see how hard it will be to make the switch. with the recent debian holdup on etch my boss gave me the go ahead to start working on a migration path
[07:56] <xmOD> can i customize the terminal so that it always starts at the desktop so that i can jus do cd and change to folders? casue right now i have to do cd 4 times to get to the desktop to access stuff
[07:57] <phiqtion> im trying to convert a file from rpm to deb and alien tells me the file isnt in the desktop, im running ubuntu inside vmware, any help?
[07:58] <PriceChild> phiqtion: you need to find out where it is then
[07:58] <Flannel> xmOD: there's a package "nautilus-open-terminal", which will add a "open terminal" command to your right click menu, allowing you to open a terminal at any folder
[07:58] <xmOD> thx flannel
[07:58] <phiqtion> PriceChild, it's right on my desktop
[07:58] <gregcha117> how can i get quicktime files to play in firefox?
[07:58] <kyncani> disasm: i suppose you could play with debfoster, maybe
[07:58] <xmOD> but is'nt there any bash script which controls where the terminal starts form?
[07:58] <PriceChild> PhilKC: so "cd Desktop"
[07:58] <PriceChild> argh
[07:59] <Riyo> I type su, and it asks for a password, what is it? I put my password, and it doesnt work
[07:59] <PriceChild> phiqtion: so "cd Desktop" then "alien <<filename>>"
[07:59] <warkruid> xmOD: yes .bashrc, but it doesn't get parsed right under ubuntu
[07:59] <Flannel> Riyo: the root password, which doesn't exist.  use sudo instead.
[07:59] <_aibot_> root password
[07:59] <xmOD> ok
[07:59] <javb> Installed Ndiswrapper, installed my wifi card (Broadcom 4311) and started using it with no problem. But, after  a minutes.. it just STOPS working. any ideas guys ?
[07:59] <Ferret> warkruid: You mean, it does do it right, but the right way is unintuitive. ;p
[07:59] <PriceChild> !root | Riyo
[07:59] <nikin> error message is : "Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init!", the EIP is clear_local_APIC
[07:59] <PriceChild> bah
[07:59] <PriceChild> ubotu's gone hasn't it
[08:00] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[08:00] <shreeve> #ubuntu+1
[08:00] <Riyo> wha?
[08:00] <shreeve> philip__ - thanks!
[08:00] <PriceChild> nikin: where does it fail/
[08:00] <warkruid> Ferret: no it doesn't work right period.
[08:00] <xmOD> @Flannel: the nautilus-open-terminal is not listed in synaptic
[08:00] <Riyo> the password is root password?
[08:00] <Flannel> xmOD: it's in universe
[08:00] <disasm> warkruid: .bashrc is for login shells, .bash_profile is for non-login shells (xterm, gnome-terminal) iirc
[08:00] <stoorty> riyo your passowrd is the root password
[08:00] <PriceChild> Riyo: nothing sorry, we normally have a bot here with some nice easy to show links.... its in for repairs right now and will be back soon
[08:00] <Ferret> warkruid: Explain.
[08:00] <stoorty> use sudo
[08:00] <phiqtion> PriceChild, shouldn't i convert the rpm file first to deb?
[08:00] <Flannel> Riyo: su wants the root password (which doesn't exist).  sudo wants your password.  Ubuntu uses sudo instead of su.
[08:01] <nikin> Price Child: just a min
[08:01] <PriceChild> Riyo: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:01] <dhq> i need help with mldonkey
[08:01] <xmOD> @Flannel: wats universe? sorry am new to linux
[08:01] <seanj> unless you want to use SWAT >:|
[08:01] <disasm> phiqtion: have you tried alien?
[08:01] <Riyo> Well sudo su works for me :p
[08:01] <PriceChild> phiqtion: first yuou have to "cd" to the folder where it is
[08:01] <Ferret> warkruid: I'm given the impression that under linux the rc files for shells depend upon whether they're logged into on real consoles (login shells) or not.  Are you saying there is some other problem, or bug, in ubuntu?
[08:01] <warkruid> Ferret: opening the terminal doesn't automatically parse the .bashrc.
[08:01] <phiqtion> disasm, im trying to install vmware tools
[08:01] <Flannel> Riyo: use sudo -i instead.  read about it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:02] <josh__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mBDQXWflbM&eurl=
[08:02] <PriceChild> josh__: not in here thanks
[08:02] <Ferret> warkruid: That's because it isn't a login shell, probably.  That's normal and correct.
[08:02] <nikin> PriceChild: at "Starting Kernel Even Manager...."
[08:02] <xmOD> @Flannel: wats universe? sorry am new to linux
[08:02] <k010> on edgy anyway to adjust the brightness on a laptop??
[08:02] <Flannel> xmOD: it's a separate repository for packages, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[08:02] <PriceChild> xmOD: all the community supported packages
[08:02] <Flannel> xmOD: that page will walk you through how to add universe
[08:02] <Draiden> Good evening
[08:02] <PriceChild> xmOD: I.e. not supported by Canonical
[08:03] <Ferret> warkruid: Or perhaps because it parses .bash_profile instead and that file is wrong.  Or both.  It's one or the other.
[08:03] <_aibot_> K010: You should have a "Fn" button on your laptop somewhere ?
[08:03] <dhq> !kmldonkey
[08:03] <sleepy5432> What can be causing my computer to not respond to Turn off or any other command that turns off my ubuntu?
[08:03] <eitan> xtknight: okay rebooting..
[08:03] <nikin> PriceChild: i get "BUG: uable to handle kernel paging reqest at virtual adress...."
[08:03] <disasm> warkruid: add source .bashrc to your .bash_profile
[08:03] <k010> _aibot_, they dont work
[08:03] <PriceChild> yay they're back :)
[08:03] <warkruid> Ferret: tnx
[08:03] <Draiden> /j ##ubuntu-nl
[08:03] <disasm> warkruid: err, source ~/.bashrc
[08:03] <PriceChild> nikin: i'm not sure sorry, was just asking for more information for others to be able to help, your initial description was pretty vague :)
[08:04] <Draiden> woops sorry
[08:04] <k010> _aibot_, the fn key does not wotk
[08:04] <_aibot_> k010: As far as I know the Fn key is functioned by your laptop and not Ubuntu
[08:04] <Ferret> k010: There's a /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness file you can cat or echo to, but hardly any laptops actually support that feature
[08:04] <gregcha117> can someone help me get quicktime videos to work?
[08:05] <PriceChild> !mp3 | gregcha117
[08:05] <ubotu> gregcha117: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:05] <hnbc34> ok..sorta new to this, so her eis my question ,and it seems simple as a lot of people probably have this problem but i cannot seem to find the answer. i get no video when i put the live cd in once gnome starts. is there a way around this? because i would really like to use it on my laptop
[08:05] <PriceChild> hnbc34: tried safe graphics mode?
[08:05] <Ferret> _aibot_: Sometimes they're done by software drivers because those (higher-level drivers) are easier to write. :/
[08:05] <xmOD> i dont know why but i dont have any "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties"
[08:05] <hnbc34> hmmm
[08:05] <xmOD> and its not in the menu settings eithe
[08:05] <hnbc34> that seems to simple
[08:06] <Flannel> xmOD: what version of ubuntu are you running? (that's most likely the cause for the name differences)
[08:06] <Ferret> _aibot_: I hate laptop manufacturers that make core functionality of the system rely on win32 drivers.  That's why the volume buttons on this laptop don't work
[08:06] <xmOD> the newest one.. 6.10
[08:06] <nikin> PriceChild: imho there is a problem with the interrupt clear_local_APIC, wich is strange coz apic is turned off
[08:06] <_aibot_> My laptop runs fine. I am lucky I guess.
[08:06] <PriceChild> nikin: still no idea sorry :)
[08:06] <k010> wasnt there a brightness applets for gnome
[08:07] <roflarn> ello i followed the vnc tutorial ( http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-remote-desktop-with-vnc4server.html ) , does anyone know how i can switch it so it uses the active session on the local pc rather than creating a new one?
[08:07] <nikin> my laptop runs fine to... just this ***** desktop brings me 6 feet under
[08:07] <_aibot_> k010: http://www.liquidx.net/gnome-vaiolcd/
[08:07] <hnbc34> my laptop worked like a charm
[08:07] <hnbc34> i meant desktop
[08:07] <xmOD> the newest one.. 6.10
[08:07] <hnbc34> every other thing i have found the answer in like 2 mins
[08:08] <nikin> !apic
[08:08] <k010> yeah all the hotkeys on my laptop dnt function
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <k010> !apic
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <_aibot_> nikin: Do you mean apci ?
[08:08] <nikin> k010: the numpad ones to?
[08:09] <_aibot_> acpi*
[08:09] <k010> i dont have a num pad fo rmy laptop
[08:09] <Ferret> hnbc34: Explain what you mean by no video when gnome starts.  Do you mean everything is fine right up until gnome comes up, then the screen goes entirely blank?  Could it be that it's trying to use a resolution your monitor doesn't support
[08:09] <k010> its a 15"
[08:09] <Flannel> xmOD: I'm not entirely sure what the text is for that under edgy.  It's under administration though.
[08:09] <nikin> _aibot_ nope... my error message is about: clear_local_APIC
[08:10] <_aibot_> nikin: ok my bad >.<
[08:10] <hnbc34> yeah once gnome starts in just goes black..so i know it is a video card issue
[08:10] <xmOD> ok got it flannel
[08:10] <hnbc34> had the issue with cards on my desktop
[08:10] <brasko> what package should I install to get a program to help me generate a pgp key?
[08:10] <xmOD> its called software sources
[08:10] <hnbc34> changed the card and it worked fine
[08:10] <_aibot_> hnbc34: What video card do you have ?
[08:10] <k010> _aibot_, would that applet work under a toshiba laptop
[08:11] <hnbc34> the laptop is a ati pieceof crap
[08:11] <hnbc34> don't even know the chipset
[08:11] <Ferret> brasko: have you tried using this page?: http://packages.ubuntu.org/
[08:11] <Ferret> It's very nifty
[08:11] <kampret77> [I cant turn on  IPW 2100 wlan device]
[08:11] <Ferret> search features and things
[08:11] <_aibot_> k010: I will check.
[08:11] <k010> _aibot_, thx
[08:11] <brasko> well, I tried 'apt-cache search pgp' but nothing stuck out
[08:12] <kampret77> Someone can help me to sett up my wlan to connect to AP
[08:12] <kampret77> I already install ndiswrapper
[08:12] <kampret77> and set all the settings
[08:12] <TyRiOn-MX> hi :)
[08:12] <kampret77> but i cant connect to router
[08:13] <_aibot_> k010: Not sure but its worth a try ?
[08:13] <Flannel> brasko: the Free version of that is gpg
[08:13] <k010> _aibot_, any inside on how to fix my fn keys?
[08:13] <brasko> I see
[08:14] <brasko> Flannel: thanks
[08:14] <Ferret> brasko: I meant try something like this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=bin/pgp
[08:14] <phr34ck> any good alternatives of amsn ?
[08:14] <Ferret> Therein lies niftiness
[08:14] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[08:14] <somerville32> !welcome | iratsu
[08:14] <ubotu> iratsu: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[08:14] <nikin> error message is : "Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init!", the EIP is clear_local_APIC
[08:14] <Ferret> phr34ck: There are a lot of programs that do MSN without trying to look exactly like MSN, such as gaim, centericq, bitlbee
[08:14] <Flannel> brasko: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto for all the gorey details
[08:14] <nikin> it hepens at "Starting Kernel Event Manager...."
[08:15] <gregcha117> does anyone know how to get totem to recognize rtsp:// when playing quicktime files, all the other protocols work fine?
[08:15] <gregcha117> i keep getting There is no input plugin to handle the location of this movie
[08:15] <phr34ck> Ferret,  what do you recommand? I have tried gaim and amsn so far ... none worked as I hoped.
[08:15] <Ferret> Flannel: Gnu Privacy Guard (GPG) and Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) are the same thing?
[08:15] <phr34ck> They're just plain rubbish.
[08:15] <Ferret> phr34ck: Well, what do you want? :)
[08:15] <brasko> Flannel: thank you very much
[08:16] <phr34ck> An alternative of MSN, since I can't use that on Ubuntu.
[08:16] <Flannel> Ferret: PGP is a standard, GPG is a Free (as in speech) implementation of the OpenPGP standard
[08:16] <georgy> phr34ck : amsn, gaim, kopete,...
[08:16] <k010> phr34ck, try aMSN
[08:16] <V-Feez> with jabber you could use msn
[08:16] <_aibot_> k010: Might have a look around http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[08:16] <hnbc34> ok...so in safe graphics mode i got video although it said there were problems with themes and crap which doesn't matter to me
[08:16] <TyRiOn-MX> i installed vmware-player from sources, after a week it seems it was not working well, so i tried "apt-get remove vmware-player" but it tells that vmware-player was not installed , so i did "apt-get install vmware-player" but it failed the config procedure, and the installer exited with "error code 1", so i tried to launch the uninstall script found on the vmware-player sources directory, but however i can't use my vmplayer ... what can i do
[08:16] <TyRiOn-MX> for fix it? thx
[08:16] <sleepy5432> How can I  track down a problem I have. I can't reboot my computer or turn it off, I have to press the PC button manually. This never happened before
[08:16] <Flannel> Ferret: PGP and GPG do the same thing, that is.  when talking about PGP as a program.
[08:16] <phr34ck> k010, I'm using it now ... it's plain super dupper rubbish.
[08:16] <Ferret> phr34ck: Do you need it to be able to do all the silly features of MSN (like multiplayer paint etc.), or would you rather have something usable that fits in with the rest of the linux thing? For example, there are some excellent text-based clients
[08:16] <k010> _aibot_, cool bruv
[08:16] <meow^> hello, I had ubuntu working properly up until i installed windows xp on another partition. Is there any way for me to reinstall grub through the live cd rather than reinstalling the whole os
[08:17] <phr34ck> The worst program I have ever used.
[08:17] <phr34ck> Ferret, I'm looking for the "silly" features of MSN.
[08:17] <k010> phr34ck, gaim is nice
[08:17] <svish> yeah, gaim is nice :)
[08:17] <TyRiOn-MX> meow^: yes, insert the cd, skip to the "grup installer step" reinstall it and reboot
[08:17] <K_Mandla> hello all
[08:17] <marc\cba> sleepy5432 - if you type "shutdown -h now" into a console, what is the response?
[08:17] <Flannel> sleepy5432: does "sudo shutdown now" work to shutdown your computer?
[08:17] <Ferret> phr34ck: gaim is the closest you'll get then.  AFAIK it has the closest approximation of MSN's "features"
[08:17] <phr34ck> k010,  GAIM is eating my contacts, that's why I didn't like it. And the interface is like ... *sighs*
[08:18] <sleepy5432> it just spams $
[08:18] <Flannel> !grub | meow^, first link
[08:18] <ubotu> meow^, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:18] <meow^> grub installer step?
[08:18] <sleepy5432> then goes blank
[08:18] <TyRiOn-MX> no one can help me?
[08:18] <phr34ck> define AFAIK.
[08:18] <Ferret> phr34ck: Fix the former and change the latter, then
[08:18] <IntuitiveNipple> meow: its possible to add the ubuntu partiton as a bootable OS in Windows C:\boot.ini - check Google
[08:18] <meow^> i've using the 6.10 i386 cd
[08:18] <phr34ck> I seriously need to search for something .. I'm just being lazy ;p
[08:18] <marc\cba> sleepy5432.... that is processes and daemons ending
[08:18] <Flannel> meow^: that's fine.  That link will give you all your options, regardless of which CD you have
[08:18] <_aibot_> k010: Got to go, good luck. You might want to search and post at the Ubuntu Forums too ...
[08:19] <meow^> that might be a better idea. thanks nipple
[08:19] <k010> phr34ck, use kde kopete
[08:19] <Ferret> phr34ck: No, seriously, none of the other programs do all the silly crap^W"features"
[08:19] <k010> some people like that
[08:19] <Ferret> phr34ck: For some reason there isn't a big demand among linuxy types for Nudge etc.
[08:19] <IntuitiveNipple> lol
[08:19] <sleepy5432> what do I do about it marc?
[08:19] <IntuitiveNipple> much more fun in real life, isn't it?
[08:19] <phr34ck> I'm not looking for nudges, at least I need the camera thingie.
[08:20] <nikin> ok i think i just reinstall windows :(((
[08:20] <Alakazamz0r> lolol
[08:20] <Alakazamz0r> lolol
[08:20] <georgy> phr34ck : so you have to use amsn or kopete
[08:20] <k010> nikin, just boot up the livecd
[08:20] <nikin> ko10 the live CD fails to
[08:21] <Music_Shuffle> 'Reinstall Windows' is the worst solution ever to any *Nix issue. Ever.
[08:21] <nikin> with the same problem
[08:21] <k010> nikin, when u go thru the install process just skip to grub install
[08:21] <N3rg4r> can someone please link me to a dial-up guide
[08:21] <sleepy5432> shutdown doesn't work, it just spams $ all the way down and my pc is left on
[08:22] <Ferret> phr34ck: OK, MSN clients that support webcam that I can find: aMSN, Kopete, gaim
[08:22] <Ferret> Maybe add MSN in wine to that list too, I dunno about that
[08:22] <nikin> Music_Shuffle: i know, i know.. but what else can i do if i want to use this system today?
[08:23] <Music_Shuffle> I missed your issue, but I bet there's a solution that doesn't involve going back to Windows. :)
[08:23] <Ferret> In fact, the gaim fork for webcam (gaim-vv) only actually does viewing
[08:23] <MrGeek> hm..
[08:23] <MrGeek> hello all
[08:23] <nikin> Music Shuffle:
[08:23] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[08:23] <nikin> error message is : "Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init!", the EIP is clear_local_APIC
[08:23] <nikin> it hepens at "Starting Kernel Event Manager...."
[08:24] <maddash> can I remove mdadm the ubuntu-standard package without brick-ing my system?
[08:25] <ikonia> depends if your using mdadm
[08:25] <warkruid> Ferret: Problem was in gnome-terminal startup. needed extra argument "login"
[08:25] <ootput> hi guys, how do i restore the default edgy gnome session? I've tinkered with using openbox in the past, but now, when i choose gnome as my session type, nothing happens
[08:26] <Ferret> warkruid: Excellent. :)
[08:26] <stefg> ootput: already tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[08:26] <phr34ck> Hey I installed java JDK 1.4, and then installed JDK 1.5 "I thought that it will replace the old version" but it never did. What should I do to remove the 1.4 ?
[08:26] <maddash> ikonia: I'm on a laptop. I'm definitely not using mdadm
[08:26] <Flannel> phr34ck: how did you install the old version?
[08:26] <ikonia> then you can remove it
[08:26] <N3rg4r> can someone please link me to a dial-up guide or wiki
[08:26] <k010> nikin, u tryd booting into recovery mode
[08:26] <phr34ck> Flannel, I downloaded it manually ...
[08:26] <stefg> !modem | N3rg4r
[08:26] <phr34ck> I then knew that I could use "apt-get"
[08:26] <Flannel> phr34ck: right, but downloaded what? a deb? a bin?
[08:26] <nikin> k010 yep... the same
[08:26] <ubotu> N3rg4r: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[08:26] <ikonia> N3rg4r: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:27] <Ferret> maddash: It's part of te base system.  It runs whether you like it or not, unless you've told it not to
[08:27] <phr34ck> Flannel, I think deb ... I can't remember. Is there a way to find out ?
[08:27] <N3rg4r> thanx stef!
[08:27] <maddash> Ferret: on synaptic, it's Ubuntu-standard that depends on it, not ubuntu-minimal
[08:27] <Ferret> maddash: As for your question... If the init script isn't running, I doubt it's being used, so removing it shouldn't kill anything
[08:27] <N3rg4r> thanx ikonia
[08:27] <Flannel> phr34ck: dpkg -l  will list all the packages you have installed.  um, depending on what the package name was: dpkg -l | grep jre or mayvbe dpkg -l | grep java
[08:28] <maddash> Ferret: ok...just worried about killing off ubuntu-standard
[08:28] <Flannel> maddash: it's just a metapackage
[08:28] <Heavenquake> where can I find a detailed overview of drivers included in the kernel?
[08:28] <KenSentMe> Can i use network-manager-gnome for connecting to a wireless network that uses peap and mchap?
[08:28] <Ferret> maddash: Well, if you've already successfully removed it from the init process, then what's the worst that can happen? ;p  You'll have to reinstall it if it's needed
[08:28] <jonty_rocks3> hi
[08:28] <jonty_rocks3> i need a suggestion
[08:28] <Ferret> maddash: I've successfully stopped mdadm running here on boot and nothing appeared to break o.o
[08:28] <ikonia> with what
[08:28] <ikonia> just ask
[08:29] <maddash> Ferret: mille de grazie
[08:29] <phr34ck> It only shows the 1.5 version ....
[08:29] <phr34ck> so I can delete the 1.4 folder ?
[08:29] <jonty_rocks3> I have a laptop (toshiba satellite 4090CDS) 400mhz and 64mb RAM. Which Ubuntu will fit on it?
[08:29] <maddash> Ferret: many thanks
[08:29] <stefg> jonty_rocks3: fluxbubntu
[08:29] <ikonia> well, you've not told us how bit the disk is - so how do I know
[08:29] <linuxnewbie756> anyone know of any free ubuntu stragedy games that are actually worth playing?
[08:29] <jonty_rocks3> is that official ubuntu?
[08:29] <stefg> !fluxbuntu | jonty_rocks3
[08:29] <ubotu> jonty_rocks3: fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[08:30] <roflarn> linuxnewbie756: openttd!
[08:30] <Flannel> phr34ck: if you installed it from a bin, then it's been strewn all around your system (to where everything is supposed to go), it's exactly like installing from source.  If it's a deb, then you can remove it cleanly with normal package management
[08:30] <jonty_rocks3> ok thnx
[08:30] <Heavenquake> Did you guys see my question, or did it drown? :o) (Sorry for the impatience)
[08:30] <ikonia> I didn't see it
[08:30] <phr34ck> Flannel, thanks man.
 where can I find a detailed overview of drivers included in the kernel?
[08:30] <phr34ck> I'm having problems in download/installing/uninstalling these stuff. I still didn't get the hang of it
[08:30] <ikonia> in the kernel readme/docs
[08:30] <stefg> jonty_rocks3: xubuntu might run, but forget openoffice anyway, and at do yourself a favor and don't fill your ram with clutter
[08:31] <Heavenquake> ikonia, online?
[08:31] <jonty_rocks3> stefg is it good for beginners?
[08:31] <ikonia> don't think there is a kernel source docs on line
[08:31] <Flannel> jonty_rocks3: install a GUI-less ubuntu, then add whatever WM you want (or stick with a gui-less).    I'm having trouble with my screen resolution.  Everything seems to be right, but I can't set it higher than 1024x768 in the system settings.  Any ideas?
[08:32] <xaaax> I'm trying to install via netboot. I downloaded netboot.tar.gz. What do I do with this file? decompress and create iso or just create iso with that file inside?
[08:32] <jonty_rocks3> is it GUI?
[08:32] <ikonia> Ralth: what version of ubuntu, what video card, what monitor
[08:32] <ikonia> xaaax: read up on netbooting
[08:32] <linuxnewbie756> alright, any other good games that aren't stratgety based?
[08:32] <ikonia> its clear you've read nothing
[08:32] <jonty_rocks3> stefg is it GUI?
[08:32] <Ferret> linuxnewbie756: freecnc?
[08:32] <ikonia> read up - then ask a specific question
[08:32] <Flannel> xaaax: why are you installing via netboot?  no CDrom drive? or just don't want to download a huge iso?
[08:32] <jonty_rocks3> i dont like command line too much
[08:32] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[08:33] <xaaax> ikonia: actually i'm on that page, it just lacks information in my specific situation
[08:33] <stefg> jonty_rocks3: why not click the link ubotu spit out?
[08:33] <nikin> error message is : "Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init!", the EIP is clear_local_APIC
[08:33] <Ferret> linuxnewbie756: freecraft? http://www.math.sfu.ca/~cbm/cd/
[08:33] <nikin> it hepens at "Starting Kernel Event Manager...."
[08:33] <Ralth> ikonia: kubuntu, Intel 915, dell 15.1 inch flatscreen (It's an inspiron 1300)
[08:33] <ikonia> well consideing you don't know what to do with the gzipped file - you've not read anything
[08:33] <ikonia> Ralth: kubuntu - which version
[08:33] <ikonia> 6.0.6 ?
[08:33] <Ralth> ikonia: I believe it is 6.0.10
[08:34] <phr34ck> Automatix is not available in the repo. ?
[08:34] <xaaax> Sorry, this is not netboot. I'm trying to do a minimal cd instalation
[08:34] <mortal> How do I shut down the computer (halt) from a terminal without requiring root access like halt does?
[08:34] <Flannel> phr34ck: automatix is not safe, and definately not official.
[08:34] <ikonia> Ralth: there are tons of problems with the i810 driver in xorg 7.1.1
[08:34] <Flannel> xaaax: Download the mini.iso, then burn it to a CD, and boot.
[08:34] <phr34ck> Flannel, how so?
[08:34] <ikonia> you've really got to try to configure xorg manually
[08:34] <Heavenquake> phr34ck, no. www.getautomatix.com will tell you everything.
[08:34] <ikonia> or use the modesetting driver
[08:34] <Heavenquake> phr34ck, but beware
[08:34] <nikin> mortal give right to the user to halt :D
[08:34] <Ralth> ikonia: What is the modesetting driver?
[08:35] <Flannel> phr34ck: when it breaks, it does so beyond repair
[08:35] <mortal> nikin, how do I do that?
[08:35] <phr34ck> umm, I see.
[08:35] <Flannel> !automatix | phr34ck
[08:35] <ubotu> phr34ck: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:35] <linuxnewbie756> ferret, where can i get the original red alert game?
[08:35] <ikonia> Ralth: a new dev driver - a bit early to use
[08:35] <linuxnewbie756> says i need the orignal files...
[08:35] <phr34ck> I liked the name while I was searching for a C++ IDE.
[08:35] <jonty_rocks3> stefg will the fluxbuntu-nbuild1-rev2-desktop-i386.iso be OK?
[08:35] <Heavenquake> phr34ck, it rarely breaks, but when it happens, you're done for. The only bad thing I experienced was that I was not able to upgrade properly from Dapper to Edgy.
[08:35] <Gosha> i have an external HD that uses NTFS .. and i can read perfectly fine from it .. but writing to it doesn't work .. is this because it's NTFS or because i'm not root or something?
[08:36] <stefg> jonty_rocks3: i don't *know* (because i never used it) but from the nomenclature used in ubuntu it's right
[08:36] <Ferret> linuxnewbie756: Ahh, yeah.  Buy it at a shop.  It's probably about $5
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Gosha: the standard ntfs driver doesn't support writing, even though it reports the drive as rw
[08:36] <Ralth> ikonia:  I'm pretty sure I have xorg configed the right way ... and I've tried 915resolution ... nothing seems to be working.
[08:36] <jonty_rocks3> ok tyvm stefg =))))
[08:36] <nikin> mortal in the /etc/sudoers file.... see 'man sudoers'
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> there's an enhanced driver around that does - ntfs-3g
[08:36] <mortal> okay, thanks nikin
[08:36] <linuxnewbie756> do you have it? could you mirror the files or something? its porobably 700mb, but is it somehow possible for you to send them to me/
[08:37] <sleepy5432> is automatix known to break turn off or reboot butttons?
[08:37] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[08:37] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:37] <ikonia> Ralth: I've got similar problems with a 915. First try the intel driver, then hang on for a while. I'm working on a driver fix for the 810 driver and the modesetting driver that I'm trying to push upstream
[08:37] <Ferret> linuxnewbie756: Yea sure I have like a car and a PS3 and a fish tank you could have too
[08:37] <linuxnewbie756> REALLY! lol, guess i'll look at it at a used cd store
[08:38] <Ralth> ikonia: how do I install the intel driver?
[08:39] <ikonia> do a dpkg-reconfigure and select the intel driver
[08:39] <nikin> i have tryed to run two other live CDs now... Ubuntu 6.06 and Puppy Linux... both stopped by agpgart with error (no prelocated videomemory detected) and(AGP aparature size is 128M @ 0xd0000000) /my videocard is 64M/
[08:39] <Gosha> so i can write to ntfs if i get a new ntfs driver?
[08:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Gosha: yes
[08:39] <stefg> nikin: agp aperture and amount of vram are different things
[08:40] <Ralth> ikonia:  I'm new to linux ... you're saying to run "dpkg-reconfigure" from root?
[08:40] <nikin> stefg: what is the dif?
[08:40] <blanky> hey guys what's up, i'm open for questions
[08:40] <ikonia> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:40] <TyRiOn-MX> can anyone help me pls :P
[08:40] <TyRiOn-MX> http://rafb.net/p/p8m5fC35.html
[08:40] <Ralth> ikonia: thanks, I'll give it a try
[08:40] <blanky> er, back
[08:41] <ikonia> ok
[08:41] <blanky> anyone need any help with anything?
[08:41] <blanky> maybe I can help :)
[08:41] <nikin> blanky:
[08:41] <nikin> i have tryed to run two other live CDs now... Ubuntu 6.06 and Puppy Linux... both stopped by agpgart with error (no prelocated videomemory detected) and(AGP aparature size is 128M @ 0xd0000000) /my videocard is 64M/
[08:41] <nikin> i have a system, and i cant boot up linux ( intel 845G based ASrock, with a 2,8Ghz Celeron), (the setup from the alternate CD went allright....) i turned off acpi, apic and lapic but it still freezes. any ideas?
[08:41] <jcaceres> hello, i enabled madwifi in my ubuntu32, but i am compiling the package in ubuntu for amd and it doesnot work???
[08:42] <SanDayGoDom> hello all
[08:42] <nikin> error message is : "Kernel Panic: not syncing: Atempted to kill init!", the EIP is clear_local_APIC
[08:42] <nikin> it hepens at "Starting Kernel Event Manager...."
[08:42] <jcaceres> kernel version is 2.6.27
[08:42] <blanky> nikin: how much system memory do you have
[08:42] <jcaceres> correcting 2.6.17 uppss
[08:42] <nikin> 512M
[08:42] <blanky> I suggest you lower your aperture size, nikin (To 64)
[08:42] <Gosha> !ntfs
[08:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:42] <blanky> nikin: maybe that will help, though I'm not entirely sure, doesn't hurt to try
[08:42] <nikin> i use an AGP card, not the internal one
[08:43] <blanky> nikin: so...?
[08:43] <SanDayGoDom> Folks is there a way to have ubuntu and Windows on the same HD WITHOUT using lilo
[08:43] <HymnToLife> [20:42]  <jcaceres> kernel version is 2.6.27<= isn't it rather 2.6.17 ?
[08:43] <magical_trevsky> is it safe to remove 'enterprise volume management system' from my dapper system, or is it important?
[08:43] <blanky> nikin: how much memory does your agp card have
[08:43] <SanDayGoDom> I really do not want to change my MBR
[08:43] <nikin> blanky it was set to 64
[08:43] <Gosha> .. so what drives do i need?
[08:43] <nikin> 64M
[08:43] <jcaceres> 4HymnToLife,  yes
[08:43] <blanky> nikin: it was, and why'd you change it? Maybe that's causing problems?
[08:43] <Gosha> !fuse
[08:43] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:43] <jcaceres>  i said it was a mistake
[08:43] <SanDayGoDom> and I might need to erase the linux partition later to make it availible again to windows
[08:43] <Gosha> why is it unsafe?
[08:44] <roflarn> i wouldnt say its unsafe tbh used it for quite some time now
[08:44] <blanky> nikin: either way, I'm not sure if the live cd will use your video card, it might just use your onboard video card since you don't have drivers for the video card
[08:44] <magical_trevsky> Gosha, i've been writing to ntfs with fuse for 6 months without a problem
[08:44] <blanky> or even yet...
[08:44] <blanky> no wait that shouldn't matter
[08:44] <stefg> magical_trevsky: as long as your disks are not using evms or lvm2 its safe to remove
[08:44] <nikin> blanky: the problem was there all the time... i just tryed to set 128 coz Linux said its 128
[08:44] <luca> iv just installed my ubuntu... but.... where is the grub.conf file?
[08:44] <magical_trevsky> stefg, how do I know if they are using it?
[08:44] <Flannel> luca: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:44] <roflarn> luca: /boot/grub/
[08:44] <HymnToLife> luca, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:44] <stefg> magical_trevsky: sud fdisk -l
[08:44] <stefg> magical_trevsky: sudo fdisk -l
[08:44] <mwe> I'm trying to compile something and get 'Can't find X includes.'. What do I need to install? I tried libx11-dev and xserver-xorg-dev without luck :|
[08:44] <luca> okokok
[08:44] <luca> thanks a lot
[08:44] <nikin> i set it back then
[08:44] <Heavenquake> Which laptop brands, apart from Lenovo, is known for good Linux-support and working this-and-that out of the box in Ubuntu?
[08:44] <Gosha> kay, then it shouldn't be a problem i guess
[08:45] <_aibot_> dell
[08:45] <HymnToLife> Heavenquake, HP stuff usuallt has great Linux compatibility
[08:45] <Shaba1> hello fold
[08:45] <_aibot_> k010: find anything usefull?
[08:45] <stefg> Heavenquake: all the Compaq/HP stuff
[08:45] <Gosha> what's the worst that can happen?
[08:45] <Shaba1> hello folks
[08:45] <svish> my hp compaq works fine :)
[08:45] <mortal> nikin, is there really a flag I can set in sudoers to allow a user to halt without having to enter their password?
[08:45] <Shaba1> Folks is there a way to have ubuntu and Windows on the same HD WITHOUT using lilo
[08:45] <HymnToLife> I'm perfectly happy with the Asus I have currently, too
[08:45] <Shaba1> and I might need to erase the linux partition later to make it availible again to windows
[08:45] <mwe> I'm trying to compile something and get: Can't find X includes. What do I need to install? I tried libx11-dev and xserver-xorg-dev without luck.
[08:45] <Heavenquake> ok, thank you :o)
[08:45] <k010> _aibot_, no jus doing some googling
[08:45] <blanky> nikin: and you say this has happened on all the live cd's you've tried?
[08:45] <nikin> mortal: no flag, but yes there is
[08:46] <k010> with beryl running it even harder
[08:46] <nikin> blanky: yep
[08:46] <mortal> nikin, okay, I'll keep on lookin'
[08:46] <nikin> ty
[08:46] <k010> coz with beryl running none of my shortcut works
[08:46] <_aibot_> k010: What do you mean ?
[08:47] <k010> _aibot_, u know u can define ur shortcuts within "keyboard shortcuts"
[08:47] <_aibot_> Yeah
[08:47] <FredDC> hi guys
[08:47] <k010> well wen im using just the metacity manager the shortcut works but with xgl they dont
[08:48] <k010> not sure why
[08:48] <k010> i mean with the beryl manager
[08:48] <_aibot_> k010: Maybe some key bindings in xgl are overriding your shortcuts ?
[08:48] <FredDC> i just made my new years resolution come through, throw out window and install linux once and for all. It was about time...
[08:49] <k010> cud be the case
[08:49] <nikin> mortal: here is a sample file to look at: http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/sample.sudoers
[08:49] <nn531> anyone know why my pages load so slow now that Im using linux? my dl's are the same but my load time is terrible
[08:49] <k010> but how do i check it out
[08:49] <sleepy5432> Can someone help me, my Turn off computer button and reboot button don't work, they leave me with a blank screen and I have to manually shut down computer
[08:49] <mortal> thanks nikin
[08:49] <xmOD> wats the command to delete a directory?
[08:49] <xmOD> lol
[08:49] <Gosha> "bash:~$ sudo modprobe fuse" <-- why does it say "bash:~" ? should i do it in a special way
[08:49] <Gosha> ?
[08:49] <georgy> xmOD, : rm -R directory
[08:50] <_aibot_> k010: Open the beryl manager and just go though and check if any of the plugins are using keys you set.
[08:50] <xmOD> i wanna delete the directory /media/windows
[08:50] <ikonia> thats normally a mount point
[08:50] <k010> boy that gona take time
[08:50] <beuno> xmOD: rm /media/windows -R
[08:50] <xmOD> sudo rm -R /media/windows?
[08:50] <beuno> yeap
[08:50] <beuno> sudo helps
[08:50] <beuno> xmOD: also, make sure it's no mounted or it won't delete
[08:50] <mortal> xmOD, you could also just umount it
[08:51] <Dramenia> hello
[08:51] <xmOD> how?
[08:51] <Shaba1> Ok no help here??
[08:51] <mortal> $ umount /media/windows
[08:51] <beuno> xmOD: sudo umount /media/windows
[08:51] <mortal> Shaba1, what about grub?
[08:51] <Dramenia> how can i instal the drivers for nvidia?
[08:51] <xmOD>  sudo unmount /media/windows
[08:51] <xmOD> that din work
[08:51] <Heavenquake> xmOD, umount not unmount
[08:51] <IntuitiveNipple> umount, not unmount
[08:52] <FredDC> I'm a C/C++ developer, can anyone point me to a list of development environments for linux? so i can see which one I'd like to have a look at?
[08:52] <xmOD> oh sorry
[08:52] <mortal> ubotu tell Dramenia about nvidia
[08:52] <Shaba1> I have no idea what or who grub is.
[08:52] <Shaba1> I am a windows admin
[08:52] <IntuitiveNipple> FredC - how about Eclipse IDE for C/C++ ?
[08:52] <mortal> Shaba1, it's the default bootloader that comes with Ubuntu
[08:52] <IntuitiveNipple> Grub is the boot loader
[08:52] <Shaba1> I just started investigating linux/ubuntu lat wek
[08:52] <mnoir> !grub
[08:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:53] <blanky> FredDC: what's the problem?
[08:53] <FredDC> intnipple: i've never programmed under linux before, so i wouldn't know which one i'd like, but i'll install that one and have a look
[08:53] <mortal> Shabal, if you install Ubuntu on a partition on the same harddrive as Windows, grub will most likely find Windows and add it to the boot menu when it installs
[08:53] <blanky> FredDC: ah, a list of IDEs?
[08:53] <blanky> FredDC: I can help you, I've been through that road
[08:53] <FredDC> blanky: great!
[08:53] <blanky> FredDC: Let me find you a nice list of them, and then I'll give you my take on them
[08:54] <mortal> blanky, keep it in here, I'll like to listen too
[08:54] <FredDC> blanky: much appreciated!
[08:54] <blanky> mortal: sure
[08:54] <mortal> :)
[08:54] <blanky> FredDC: Here ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6762) is a list of what ubuntu users like
[08:54] <robdeman> hi gang... under Windows I was using FileMon to monitor whatever the filesystem was doing. Is there such a thing for Linux/Ubuntu? My php script complains it cannot find a certain Class... but the file is there and the owner/file rights are set to 0777
[08:54] <robdeman> the /var/logs/apacje2/error.log does not show anything
[08:54] <stefg> !lsof
[08:54] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:55] <blanky> FredDC: you say you're using C/C++ right? Well, there's Eclipse ( www.eclipse.org ) with the CDT plugin ( http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/downloads.php )
[08:55] <ikonia> Hmmm quadrata's been on quataum
[08:55] <stefg> ????
[08:55] <_aibot_> robdeman: whats the exact error ?
[08:55] <ikonia> oops
[08:55] <robdeman> _aibot_ Fatal error: Class 'Favorite' not found in /home/outloud/www/outloud2/app_controller.php on line 217
[08:55] <FredDC> blanky : c/c++ yes. i'll have a look at eclipse
[08:55] <blanky> FredDC: there's also Anjuta ( http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ ), as well as KDevelop ( http://www.kdevelop.org/ )
[08:55] <blanky> blanky: make sure you do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' first
[08:55] <blanky> er, what the heck
[08:55] <blanky> that was directed to FredDC
[08:56] <_aibot_> robdeman: whats on that line ?
[08:56] <robdeman> _aibot_ but the file /models/favoriate.php exists...
[08:56] <blanky> FredDC: that will give you the necessary build tools such as gcc (the compiler suite), make, and other stuff
[08:56] <robdeman> _aibot_ line #217 $Favorite = new favorite;
[08:56] <_aibot_> Your trying to call 'Favorite' but your class is called favorite.
[08:56] <_aibot_> ?
[08:57] <_aibot_> I cant tell unless I see the files. Upload them to pastebin.
[08:57] <robdeman> _aibot_ it did read $Favorite = new Favorite;
[08:57] <blanky> FredDC: I personally never have tried Eclipse with CDT in a real world environment, it seemed alright, but the IDE was difficult for me to master, not to mention it wasn't really built for C/C++ programming
[08:57] <Tajmox> If I want to use this computer as the internet source for a router, do I use NAT or ipmasq ?
[08:57] <robdeman> _aibot_ thanks for the help I need to go outsude :)
[08:57] <_aibot_> Ok :)
[08:57] <blanky> FredDC: I only tried Anjuta for a while, and I don't really remember. My friend uses it and he seems to like it a lot
[08:58] <blanky> FredDC: I have tried KDevelop a lot, and I really like it. But it's all personal preference
[08:58] <FredDC> blanky: it's a matter of personal taste mostly but at least now i have some names of apps to check out
[08:58] <blanky> FredDC: not to mention there's a lot more, but those are the most popular as far as I know
[08:59] <blanky> FredDC: I usually see myself just using something simple as Gedit ( GNOME Text Editor ) or Kate ( KDE Advanced Text Editor ) with terminal gcc/make
[08:59] <nikin> blanky i changed to the internal VGA and it seems to work now
[08:59] <red_> anyone know how to change the amarok splash screen?
[08:59] <blanky> FredDC: so I suggest you at least get somewhat acquainted with the gcc tools, as well as any other you might be using (make)
[08:59] <eyalw> hi, u know a simple but extesive tutorial for assembly?
[08:59] <blanky> nikin: :P
[08:59] <blanky> red_: to a different image?
[08:59] <blanky> red_: /join #amarok
[08:59] <red_> blanky yes a have the image
[09:00] <blanky> red_: I guess it should be as easy as locating the image and replacing it
[09:00] <nikin> blanky: X server isnt working but the system starts
[09:00] <FredDC> blanky: i was planning on getting to know gcc as well, but i was wondering about an editor
[09:00] <blanky> nikin: hmm, let me think
[09:00] <nikin> blanky: i try now to get x server with the internal VGA
[09:00] <blanky> FredDC: most IDE's are just that, IDE's, they all typically use gcc
[09:01] <blanky> FredDC: gcc is pretty extensive and complicated, I'm not saying learn it all, just enough to survive if you want to do your own little things/edits
[09:01] <nikin> blanky: ok i got Xserver or internal VGA
[09:01] <blanky> nikin: sorry? 'or' ?
[09:02] <nikin> now the problem is that i need my AGP card :)
[09:02] <blanky> hmm...I'm thinking
[09:02] <blanky> nikin: what's your card brand/model ?
[09:02] <christopher> I just installed ubuntu server, but when I ran sudo apt-get install postgresql, it said that it was not available, is this normal?
[09:02] <nikin> Nvidia Geforce 4 MX 440
[09:02] <nn531> anyone ever use airsnort?
[09:03] <Gosha> why can i not change the permissions for /media/sda1 ( where i mounted my exHDDthat is NTFS )
[09:03] <christopher> nn531, yeah I did
[09:03] <TuxCrafter> christopher: dit you enable all the repost
[09:03] <sleepy5432> my Turn off Computer button and reboot button don't work, only thing that works is alt+sysrq+b, it worked fine before, what can I do to solve this
[09:03] <TuxCrafter> christoper /etc/apt-get/sources.list or something like that
[09:03] <nikin> index.hu
[09:03] <enyc> Gosha: regardless of mount permissions... NTFS is not writable driver basically
[09:04] <nikin> sry.. wrong keyb :)
[09:04] <christopher> TuxCrafter, what do you mean, "all the respos"?
[09:04] <christopher> TuxCrafter, oooohhh, right
[09:04] <stefg> !fuse
[09:04] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:04] <christopher> TuxCrafter, yeah of course, thanks.
[09:04] <nn531> christopher: did you have any problesm with it becasue I cant seem to get it to display anything when i hit start
[09:04] <enyc> Gosha: erm... the linux kernel implementation of ntfs cannot writo to ntfs except simple safe operations changing contents of file woithout changing size...  I undorstand that with NTFS-3G you can write to NTFS fairly well...
[09:05] <frogzoo_> !ntfs | Gosha
[09:05] <ubotu> Gosha: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:05] <enyc> Gosha: the real problem being that ntfs in proprietary
[09:05] <fuoco> does ubuntu support bluetooth out of the box?
[09:05] <christopher> nn531, naw was a while ago, but I had no problems. did you run it off a terminal?
[09:05] <nn531> tried
[09:05] <Tajmox> If I want to use this computer as the internet source for a router, do I use NAT or ipmasq ?
[09:05] <Gosha> !ntfs-3g
[09:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:06] <blanky> Hey guys how do I use debhelper, I mean, I have it installed apparently, I did 'debhelper' and it says commadn not found
[09:06] <nn531> christopher: I tried and I get an error
[09:06] <nikin> nvidia.com
[09:06] <stefg> enyc: deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu dapper main main-all
[09:06] <nikin> again wrong keyb.... argh
[09:06] <Shaba1> Hello can somone give me that second grub link again
[09:06] <christopher> nn531, what was it?
[09:06] <stefg> !grub
[09:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:07] <Shaba1> the one about reclaming the space for windows
[09:07] <nn531> christopher: /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=9 keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null
[09:07] <nn531> sh: /sbin/wlanctl-ng: not found
[09:07] <g333k_work> Hi, is there any *.doc files reader? (just reader, not editor)
[09:07] <Gosha> seems troublesome :P
[09:07] <nn531> christopher: I am very new to ubuntu by the way
[09:07] <stefg> !antiword
[09:07] <ubotu> antiword: Converts MS Word files to text and ps. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.37-1 (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 752 kB
[09:07] <christopher> nn531, look in sbin, see what there actually is in there.
[09:07] <KenSentMe> Where does NetworkManager save it's settings?
[09:08] <nikin> !nvidia
[09:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <Tajmox> blanky man debhelper
[09:08] <nn531> christopher: nothin.. well not nothin but not that file
[09:08] <g333k_work> stefg, most of my users use just doc files
[09:08] <blanky> Tajmox: thanks
[09:08] <Tajmox> blanky, no prob.     man any command =)
[09:09] <christopher> nn531, see if you can see something else in there that would correspond to what you are looking for
[09:09] <stefg> g333k_work: so pipe them through antiword to your preferred ps-viewer
[09:09] <svish> I have written an ultra simple c++ app with a main.cpp, Cube.h and Cube.cpp.. how do I compile this? g++ -o TestApp main.cpp doesnt seem to work..
[09:09] <Shaba1> thamlks
[09:09] <christopher> nn531, or just try a bunch
[09:09] <nn531> hmm I need wlanctl-ng
[09:09] <blanky> svish: what happens?
[09:09] <nn531> I cant search
[09:09] <blanky> svish: it says gcc: command not found ?
[09:10] <blanky> svish: If so, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:10] <Tajmox> apt-get install build-essential
[09:10] <Tajmox> =]
[09:10] <blanky> beat you to it
[09:10] <blanky> :P
[09:10] <svish> blanky: I get an error about undefined reference to Cube::Cube()
[09:10] <blanky> svish: oh, nevermind haha
[09:10] <bieb> stefg... still fighting with the modem here... I can connect, but no webpages.. in the howto it says: If you connect successfully but your Internet applications do not function (eg. web pages do not load in Firefox), you might need to add replacedefaultroute as a new line in the pppd option file.   what goes after replacedefaultroute?
[09:10] <svish> blanky: among others.. hehe
[09:10] <blanky> svish: maybe it's a code problem?
[09:10] <blanky> svish: ohh, here
[09:11] <blanky> g++ -o TestApp main.cpp cube.cpp
[09:11] <christopher> nn531, ohhh, are you sure you installed it right?
[09:11] <Tajmox> svish you might be missinng a dependency
[09:11] <blanky> er, capitalized letters of course
[09:11] <svish> blanky: its the example from http://www.functionx.com/cpp/examples/simpleclass.htm
[09:11] <nn531> I installed it from the synaptic thing
[09:11] <surreal> part
[09:11] <christopher> nn531, you shouldn't have to type /sbin/ before
[09:11] <dragon> bieb: nothing goes after replace defaultroute
[09:11] <blanky> svish: try what I said
[09:11] <christopher> nn531, at least i didn't
[09:11] <bieb> ok.. so just add that line to /etc/ppp/options?
[09:11] <stefg> bieb: I can't really answer that, but my first check would be if the DNS is set correctly? /etc/resolv.conf has a tendency to get overwritten in ubuntu :-\
[09:12] <martin__> ubuntu-fr
[09:12] <martin__> #ubuntu-fr
[09:12] <nn531> christopher: my bad, I searched for wlanctl-ng and I didnt find anything
[09:12] <n2diy> ! fr
[09:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:12] <svish> ah
[09:12] <roflarn> ! no
[09:12] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[09:12] <christopher> nn531, if you're installing from source, remember to use make install.
[09:12] <trinitrogen> does anybody have any experience with hellanzb?
[09:12] <martin__> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[09:12] <dragon> martin__: /join #ubuntu-fr
[09:12] <nn531> gaaa
[09:12] <nn531> christopher
[09:12] <christopher> nn531, or you computer will never find it
[09:13] <svish> blanky: thanks, that worked. so in other words when compiling from terminal I have to compile all cpp manually sort of?
[09:13] <nn531> christopher: k, so what should I do?
[09:13] <bieb> Dragon....ok.. so just add that line to /etc/ppp/options?
[09:13] <trinitrogen> or perhaps suggest a good nzb downloader
[09:13] <nn531> christopher: reinstall it?
[09:13] <blanky> svish: or use make (or automake/autoconf)
[09:13] <christopher> nn531, download the source, unpack, read the readme and the install file, type ./configure, then make then make install. (I'm not sure about the configure)
[09:13] <svish> blanky: im used to pressing F-key in visual studio, so this is kind of new, hehe :p
[09:13] <dragon> bieb: well that is the option file :)
[09:14] <nn531> k
[09:14] <blanky> svish: yeah I love visual studio as well haha
[09:14] <blanky> svish: there's IDEs you can use; Eclipse with CDT, KDevelop, Anjuta
[09:14] <blanky> make programming easier (typically using automake/autoconf)
[09:14] <blanky> they still use gcc typically
[09:14] <svish> blanky: is there ANYTHING that even comes close to vs in linux?
[09:14] <bieb> Dragon.. I knew it was the option file, just didnt know if there were any other things I would have to add with the replacedefaultroute
[09:14] <blanky> svish: nope, haha
[09:14] <blanky> svish: maybe you'll like kdevelop though
[09:15] <svish> blanky: im reeeaaally missing IntelliSense lol
[09:15] <blanky> same here
[09:15] <christopher> svish, i know EXACTLY how you feel, when I program in linux and encounter a hard problem i debug on windows lol
[09:15] <svish> lol
[09:15] <dimitri_> where is the history file or log for the gnome terminal?
[09:15] <blanky> svish: trust me it makes you a better programmer though, without it, but most already have somewhat of intellisense
[09:15] <svish> how do that work?
[09:15] <kitche> svish: yes all over but then again visual studio is mroe for .net anyways anymore
[09:15] <blanky> svish: some/most already have intellisense
[09:15] <blanky> svish: try kdevelop
[09:15] <svish> ok
[09:15] <svish> apt-get install kdevelop?
[09:15] <blanky> svish: there is one though, that's almost identical to visual studio in some terms
[09:16] <christopher> svish, use netbeans, I've tried them all, at netbeans is the closest thing to vs.net
[09:16] <blanky> svish: but it's for mono/.net programming (C# for example), MonoDevelop
[09:16] <blanky> svish: true
[09:16] <svish> isnt netbeans c++?
[09:16] <blanky> svish: +sudo
[09:16] <xmOD> which player can i use in ubuntu to play mp3 audio files and MP4 video files?
[09:16] <blanky> svish: I'm not sure, I thought it was for java
[09:16] <stefg> !vlc
[09:16] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:16] <christopher> svish, yeah it is, i thought that's what you wanted, sorry
[09:16] <nn531> christopher: /sbin/wlanctl-ng:
[09:16] <blanky> !mp3 | xmOD
[09:16] <ubotu> xmOD: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:16] <stefg> !info vlc
[09:16] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[09:16] <Gosha> !fps
[09:16] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[09:16] <nn531> christopher: whoops.. i meant "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:16] <nn531> "
[09:17] <vleon> how do i close xorg?
[09:17] <svish> christopher: sorry, java is no problem. the incredibly messy c++ is my problem :S
[09:17] <kitche> vleon: to the command line?
[09:17] <christopher> svish, netbeans has a C++ module
[09:17] <vleon> well yes i want to install nvidia drivers
[09:17] <kitche> vleon: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:17] <vleon> thanx
[09:17] <svish> christopher: cool.. is it hard to install?
[09:17] <stefg> !nvidia | vleon
[09:17] <ubotu> vleon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:17] <Gosha> 2222 fps :D
[09:17] <christopher> svish, no, they have binaries
[09:18] <Gosha> .. why does it get higher when i dont have the focus on the glxgears window?
[09:18] <christopher> svish, just like windows installers :P
[09:18] <vleon> and in xfce? :)
[09:18] <christopher> nn531, sorry I'm out of time
[09:18] <kitche> vleon: you have to stop gdm in a terminal
[09:18] <Draiden> anyone has installed the Ubuntu 6.10 AMD64 Server edition?
[09:19] <svish> christopher: but are they safe in linux? tried installing sun java from their site before I new about synaptics and packaged... and wow... messy!!
[09:19] <vleon> yes but how do i do it in xfce, it doesnt use gdm doest it?
[09:19] <nikin> blanky: i am folowing the binaray driver howto... do you know anything i should look out for?
[09:19] <svish> reinstalled linux? yeah I think so...
[09:19] <christopher> nn531, just read, and get used to ubuntu, once you get the hang of linux in gereral airsnort is not hard
[09:19] <nn531> k
[09:19] <kitche> vleon: yes it uses gdm
[09:19] <_bt> hi, i upgraded my kernel last night and now everything is running super fast.
[09:19] <nn531> christopher
[09:19] <nn531> thanks
[09:19] <vleon> ok
[09:19] <blanky> nikin: for nvidia, things are typically easier
[09:19] <_bt> like the RTC is broken or seomthing
[09:19] <kitche> vleon: gdm can be used on kde and anything
[09:19] <_bt> any idea what could cause this?
[09:19] <trinitrogen> How do I open nzbs with pan?
[09:20] <blanky> nikin: And since I'm on ATI, I honestly don't remember, but if you have any problems just let us know
[09:20] <kitche> _bt: what do you mean running fast?
[09:20] <nikin> blanky: then i am lucky on that side.... you think this driver can solve my problem?
[09:20] <christopher> svish, yeah I still dont' understand the install from the java site. I actually used automatix (look it up it's really worth it). but once you have a JRE you should have no problem
[09:20] <christopher> svish, I'm going, see yo later
[09:20] <blanky> nikin: well, if it's a live cd I doubt it
[09:20] <blanky> nikin: but having the driver installed helps either way
[09:20] <_bt> kitche: things that flash , flash faster, if i adjust date and time and watch the seconds count up, its going like 3 seconds advancing in 1 second of real time
[09:21] <svish> christopher: ok, thanks, bye :)
[09:21] <nikin> it isnt.... it is a nice fresh 6.10 install
[09:21] <marcus_> im thinking of installing ubuntu on my pavilion dv5220 for dual processor management and composites any insight as to whether it would be worth it?
[09:21] <Flannel> christopher: please don't recommend automatix here.
[09:21] <_bt> kitche: so when i got back from work my clock said thurs 4 jan 6:10am!
[09:21] <vleon> it writes me that a command is not found :\
[09:21] <kitche> _bt: hmm maybe your bios is running fast
[09:21] <blanky> nikin: I thought you were having live cd problems
[09:21] <kitche> vleon: what command?
[09:21] <vleon> gdm
[09:22] <blanky> installing a driver on an install I doubt would help a live cd problem
[09:22] <_bt> kitche, how would i check?
[09:22] <blanky> as they're not related, but hey doesn't hurt to try
[09:22] <kitche> vleon: it says /etc/init.d/gdm can't be found?
[09:22] <nikin> blanky: nope.. just the same problems on HDD and on Live CD
[09:22] <vleon> yes
[09:22] <nn531> does anyone how I should  go about fixing? "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:22] <nn531> "
[09:22] <vleon> i use xubuntu if it helps
[09:22] <blanky> nikin: ah okay
[09:22] <kitche> vleon: try this sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop or xdm stop
[09:23] <blanky> nikin: in that case, might help :)
[09:23] <vleon> ok
[09:23] <_bt> nn531, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:23] <Flannel> nn531: you need "build-essential"
[09:23] <stefg> !build | nn531
[09:23] <ubotu> nn531: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:23] <blanky> nikin: ouch, wait, so you're reading the wiki through links or something similar? I thought you said you couldn't start xserver
[09:23] <vleon> same results
[09:23] <nn531> _bt: so I type  sudo apt-get install build-essential "then filename?"
[09:23] <vleon> maybe /usr/etc or something?
[09:24] <kitche> _bt type this hwclock --show and see if it matches up to your sys time
[09:24] <_bt> nn531, type that command and press enter. it will prompt for your passowrd then press enter
[09:24] <nn531> _bt aha
[09:24] <_bt> kitche, Thu 04 Jan 2007 06:07:34 GMT  -0.399741 seconds
[09:24] <kitche> _bt: what's your sys time though you can find that out with date
[09:25] <_bt> kitche: Thu Jan  4 06:17:38 GMT 2007
[09:25] <svish> !automatix
[09:25] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu.  Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:25] <svish> !worksforme
[09:25] <_bt> any ideas?
[09:26] <Mathersen> hi @ all
[09:26] <svish> vleon: hehe..
[09:26] <kitche> _bt: you can either set date by hand or use a ntpd server to do it
[09:26] <Karark> in XFCE, my window borders disappeared... wtf>?!
[09:26] <nikin> re
[09:26] <EDinNY> I just connected my generic camera to the usb.  I know that in other machines the os just finds it...ubuntu does not seem to.   There are other reports of this on the interenet, but no course of action...any ideas?
[09:26] <mharding> can someone help me with an error
[09:26] <nikin> sorry i pressed ctrl+alt+bckspc on wrong keyb... argh
[09:27] <stefg> Karark: /j #xubuntu and restart xfwm4
[09:27] <nn531> _bt: wondering if you could help me with one more thing
[09:27] <tmorton> Is there a way to tell apt-get to install the package that provides a filename?
[09:27] <mharding> I am trying to install a dell 1390 wlan driver
[09:27] <Mathersen> doas anybody know if there is a beta iso of feisty?
[09:27] <mharding> mharding@mharding-laptop:~$ sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:27] <mharding> bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: Permission denied
[09:27] <stefg> !feisty
[09:27] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:27] <_bt> kitche: this is not a problem with the clock being out specifically. the system as running at a really enhanced speed
[09:27] <Flannel> tmorton: you'll have to search, packages.ubuntu.com has a search feature for installed packages (scroll down)
[09:27] <EDinNY> help me connect my camera before I am forced to use a windows machine!
[09:27] <_bt> which is making the clock go out as the first noticable thing
[09:27] <kitche> Mathersen: yes there is an alpha iso no beta though sicne it's not at beta yet
[09:27] <_bt> and typematic is faster
[09:28] <_bt> and everything is just running super speed!
[09:28] <mharding> can someone please help me out
[09:28] <tmorton> Flannel, thanks
[09:28] <_bt> nn531, whats up
[09:28] <kitche> _bt: well the kernel might have realtime in it but not sure what kernel do you have?
[09:28] <tmorton> there's no more automatic way?
[09:28] <EDinNY> mharding, just ask!
[09:28] <AlexC_> Morning all
[09:28] <_bt> Linux rosie 2.6.20-3-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 26 02:36:13 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:28] <mharding> I need helo
[09:28] <Mathersen> @ubotu: Thanks. My mistake :-)
[09:28] <mharding> why am I getting this error
[09:28] <mharding> mharding@mharding-laptop:~$ sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:28] <mharding> bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: Permission denied
[09:28] <kitche> EDinNY: what camera and you just using the camera itself intot he computer?
[09:29] <Flannel> tmorton: no, due to the nature of apt-get, you only know what files are provided locally, after installing them
[09:29] <AlexC_> mharding: because you don't have permission, use sudo infrom of the command
[09:29] <nn531> _bt: k the install file I have is telling me to do "./configure" did that after doing the build-essential it worked, then it told me to do "make" and I get "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[09:29] <kitche> _bt: hmm that might have realtime built in hard ot say without looking at it's config file
[09:29] <g333k_work> stefg, I do $antiword file.doc | evince, but I see a blank file in evince
[09:29] <stefg> _bt: ermm.... i guess this is an unsupported kernel
[09:29] <AlexC_> mharding: woops, didn't see you are using sudo
[09:29] <vdepizzol> How can I mount partitions in ubuntu edgy? In dapper I go to System > Administration > Disks... but this option isn't on edgy
[09:29] <Music_Shuffle> !chmod
[09:29] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:29] <_bt> stefg: its in the repos
[09:29] <Music_Shuffle> That was @whoever had the 'can't write to' deal.
[09:29] <EDinNY> kitch, I plugged my "SVP" camera into the usb port and expected it to find it as a storage device
[09:29] <aoupi> mharding: try sudo -i then do the echo thing then exit
[09:29] <Mathersen> Is there a .deb package for Java 6?
[09:30] <mharding> k
[09:30] <Mathersen> On the official site i didn't found any
[09:30] <stefg> !linux-image-generic
[09:30] <kitche> EDinNY: depends if the camera acts like a storage device some don't
[09:30] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:30] <Kalagaraz> hmm
[09:30] <_bt> nn531, configure must have not successfully completed. what was the last output of that command?
[09:30] <Shaba1> So if I decide to take a linux partition off my hd can the space be recovered by windows without reinstalling windows and formating again
[09:30] <EDinNY> kitche: It found the device and the log says "usb 1-1.3: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices"
[09:30] <nn531> _bt: " Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[09:30] <nn531> "
[09:30] <mharding> worked
[09:30] <mharding> thanks so much
[09:30] <aoupi> no problem
[09:30] <Flannel> mharding: sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.b/blacklist
[09:30] <PoLL> hello does some one know the name the update notifier which pops up in gnome on start ?
[09:30] <EDinNY> kitch, before that it said "scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices"
[09:31] <Kalagaraz> DCC SEND SECURITYOVERRIDE
[09:31] <_bt> nn531, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:31] <EDinNY> kitch, it never assigned it a device name or mounted it
[09:31] <sinisterguy> does anybody happen to have the candido engine package from berlios?
[09:31] <kitche> !ops
[09:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:31] <EDinNY> kitch, it works fine in windows with not extra drivers
[09:31] <gnomefreak> kitche: ??
[09:31] <nn531> _bt: couldnt find package
[09:31] <Seveas> kitche, no need to call ops
[09:31] <Seveas> such morons are k-lined automatically
[09:32] <gnomefreak> ah dcc?
[09:32] <nn531> _bt: whoops forgot the v
[09:32] <kitche> I have quits and stuff ignored so forgot lol
[09:32] <Mace68> lo all, how hard is it to install and boot kubuntu from an external usb drive? does the latest version install usb support in initrd?
[09:32] <Music_Shuffle> Demonically PriceChild? :P
[09:32] <bieb> stefg... resolv.conf has the correct nameservers.. but still no luck
 such morons are k-lined automatically
 ah dcc?
[09:32] <PriceChild> Music_Shuffle: the k-line :)
[09:32] <Music_Shuffle> Hehe
[09:32] <mharding> I am using a core 2 duo... do I need a different kernel then the generic one that is installed
[09:32] <PriceChild> Music_Shuffle: just a few lines below
[09:32] <g333k_work> stefg, any clue for me?
[09:33] <[lynx] _> How do I update beryl?
[09:33] <ikonia> [lynx] _: same as every other package
[09:33] <vdepizzol> How can I mount partitions in ubuntu edgy? In dapper I go to System > Administration > Disks... but this option isn't on edgy
[09:33] <mrgreen> how do I install edubuntu?
[09:33] <Music_Shuffle> Heh
[09:33] <mawe> hi all. what is the recommended way to start a server/daemon process on system startup under a non-root uid, if the daemon itself doesn't provide that feature?
[09:33] <adaptr> [lynx] _: which repo do you use for it ?
[09:33] <ikonia> mrgreen: download the cd
[09:33] <AlexC_> mrgreen: sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop    I think,
[09:33] <gnomefreak> mrgreen: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[09:33] <[lynx] _> adaptr : let me check
[09:33] <kitche> EDinNY: does mount say anything for a device that wasn't mounted before
[09:33] <mrgreen> cheers
[09:33] <Mathersen> @mrgreen: like the live cd?
[09:33] <AlexC_> gnomefreak: isn't using aptitude for such a big package better?
[09:34] <mrgreen> no I'm in unbuntu
[09:34] <gnomefreak> AlexC_: sometimes
[09:34] <EDinNY> kitche: not sure what you mean...it mounts my mp3 player with no problem
[09:34] <gnomefreak> AlexC_: it depends on the person really. aptitude installs all recommends and suggested packages that a user may not want
[09:35] <AlexC_> gnomefreak: true, but it's easier to uninstall the whole lot afterwards with aptitude, no?
[09:35] <kitche> EDinNY: if you type mount in a terminal pastebin what you see
[09:35] <gnomefreak> AlexC_: apt now has autoremove so you can remove all depends with the meta package
[09:35] <AlexC_> gnomefreak: ahhh never knew that!
[09:35] <EDinNY>  kitche, I don't know what device to mount
[09:35] <mharding> I need help with the kernel being smp
[09:35] <stefg> g333k_work: no input, except the ususal 'read the documentation'.. i don't know how well antiword handles the newer .doc-formats
[09:35] <ikonia> mharding: what help
[09:35] <ikonia> mharding: are you "matt harding"
[09:35] <EDinNY> kitche: I expect it to install a new device, then mount it
[09:35] <mrgreen> no edubntu-desktop does not work
[09:35] <kitche> EDinNY: should be /dev/sda1 if it didn't automount
[09:36] <mharding> yup
[09:36] <bieb> g33k.. doesnt OpenOffice work?
[09:36] <[lynx] _> adaptr : deb http://beryl-mirror.pricechild.co.uk edgy main
[09:36] <mharding> who are you
[09:36] <kitche> EDinNY: it might have automounted and you didn't know
[09:36] <ebe-1> I dual boot. I need to get some files on my Windows, NTFS partition. CD writing is not an option right now, nor is uploading to the net (the files I need to get are drivers). I just need to write some files to the NTFS volume. Is this possible?
[09:36] <adaptr> [lynx] _: and that does not upgrade ?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> mrgreen: enable universe repo
[09:36] <mrgreen> ta
[09:36] <PriceChild> [lynx] _: pinging me :P
[09:36] <stefg> bieb: i'd have a close look at www.linmodems.org
[09:36] <EDinNY> kitche: it did not automount and there is no /dev/sd*
[09:36] <gnomefreak> [lynx] _: what version of beryl do you have?
[09:36] <[lynx] _> Well, maybe... just, what is the command?
[09:36] <[lynx] _> 0.1.4
[09:36] <[lynx] _> isnt it a newer one?
[09:36] <bieb> thanks stefg
[09:36] <gnomefreak> [lynx] _: thats the latest
[09:36] <IntuitiveNipple> What's Edgy's support for dual-monitors like (Matrox G450 twinhead) from the Desktop Live CD?
[09:36] <adaptr> [lynx] _: no, that's pretty much state of the art
[09:37] <PriceChild> [lynx] _: adaptr please use the main mirror instead of me... it will mean if we pull my mirror down from bandwidth errors you don't lose beryl packages :)
[09:37] <[lynx] _> hmm... too bad. I have some difficulties with the workspaceindicators not changing
[09:37] <adaptr> PriceChild: is that a SVN repo you run ?
[09:37] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple: poor
[09:37] <PriceChild> [lynx] _: adaptr deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main
[09:37] <mharding> I have a dual core cpu and want to know if the gerneric kernel is good
[09:37] <PriceChild> adaptr: no, I host official beryl ubuntu packages
[09:37] <ikonia> mharding: matt darcy - don't know where I know you from
[09:37] <PriceChild> mharding: yes
[09:37] <ikonia> mharding: the generic kernel is fine
[09:37] <adaptr> PriceChild: what I thought.... [lynx] _ I use http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[09:37] <EDinNY> kitche: when I do "ls /dev/ |grep sd" it returns ptysd and ttysd, I don't think either of them is my camera device
[09:38] <ikonia> adaptr: why are you using svn when you have no idea what your doing ?
[09:38] <mrgreen> gnomefreak: Thanks!
[09:38] <gnomefreak> mrgreen: yw
[09:38] <adaptr> ikonia: how do you know *what* I am doing ? thanks for nothing
[09:38] <nikin> :(:(:(:(
[09:38] <ikonia> adaptr: because your asking how you update it ?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> adaptr: please take beryl issues/questions to #ubuntu-xgl
[09:39] <ebe-1> Can I write to an NTFS volume?
[09:39] <kitche> EDinNY: what is the exact model of your camera?
[09:39] <mharding> anyone know if they fixed the fn and the arrows keys to change the brightness of the screen
[09:39] <apokryphos> ebe-1: no
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ebe-1: not safely
[09:39] <stefg> !ntfs | ebe-1
[09:39] <ubotu> ebe-1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:39] <adaptr> ikonia: read some context in the future.. it might save us all some time
[09:39] <EDinNY> kitche: SVP Digi-Shot
[09:39] <sri> greetings.
[09:39] <ikonia> adaptr: pardon ?
[09:39] <jannu1> im using winXP and ubuntu wiht ntfs-3g with no promblem
[09:39] <jannu1> with*
[09:39] <ikonia> mharding: fixed in what ?
[09:39] <ebe-1> When you say not safely, what do you mean? I just have some simple files that I need to put on a Windows accessible area of my harddrive.
[09:39] <gnomefreak> jannu1: its not proven to be safe
[09:40] <sri> does anybody know if I can get anything like decss and basically the stuff from seveas for feisty
[09:40] <sri> I know feisty isn't released yet
[09:40] <stefg> ebe-1: get ntfs-3g
[09:40] <sri> but it'st he only thing that works for my core 2 duo setup
[09:40] <gnomefreak> sri: no extras for feisty yet
[09:40] <dIsOrdEr> still not stable..I especially wouldn't use it for manually writing drivers to an NTFS partition
[09:40] <adaptr> gnomefreak, ikonia: *i did not ask for anything*.. I asked [lynx] _specifically what repo HE was using
[09:40] <sri> gnomefreak: okay, thanks.
[09:40] <mharding> I know it worked in 6.06 but not in 6.10
[09:40] <dIsOrdEr> the permissions might not be correct
[09:40] <mharding> why not
[09:40] <gnomefreak> sri: please keep feisty topics in #ubuntu+1
[09:40] <adaptr> it's nice, all these people paying close attention
[09:40] <mharding> is there something that I can do to turn it on
[09:40] <dIsOrdEr> and your windows OS might no longer be stable
[09:40] <ikonia> adaptr: I thought it was you who said "how do I update beryl"
[09:40] <sri> I could not seem to install edgy  on my core 2 set up.. no idea why
[09:40] <ikonia> I apologise
[09:40] <sri> gnomefreak: is that the devs channel?
[09:41] <adaptr> ikonia: and I know it was not.. that's what that screen-thingy in front of you is for...
[09:41] <gnomefreak> sri: no thats the feisty channel
[09:41] <mharding> I have 6.10 installed on a core 2
[09:41] <m12> WGET doesn't seem to allow for wildcards (*), are there any similar downloaders which do?
[09:41] <sri> gnomefreak: ah, thank you.
[09:41] <kitche> EDinNY: hmm can't find anything about that camera at all in Linux
[09:41] <vdepizzol> How can I mount partitions in ubuntu edgy? In dapper I go to System > Administration > Disks... but this option isn't on edgy
[09:41] <EDinNY> m12, I like "lftp"
[09:41] <ikonia> adaptr: there is that much random chatter in this channel - I linked your name to the question. I apologise
[09:41] <sri> anyways, sorry for the non-edgy spam.
[09:41] <kitche> m12: sure it does
[09:41] <adaptr> ikonia: no problem, I'm over it :)
[09:41] <adaptr> ikonia: agree about the noise, though
[09:42] <EDinNY> kitche: it seems that other people have problems with cameras on edgdy
[09:42] <mharding> how can I check to see if I have my video drivers intalled
[09:42] <m12> kitche:  not for me.  it tries to download a file with a * character in it.  downloads a non-existant 0kb file.
[09:42] <ebe-1> Okay, there's something else I want to do. How do I create a FAT32 partition on my harddrive? All the space is taken up. Is it possible to resize something? I can at least write to the FAT partition, and it will be accessible from within Windows and Ubuntu.
[09:42] <stefg> vdepizzol: edgy uses a diffrent way of knwing partitions by UUID instead of /dev/ devices. The old dapper applet doesn't work no more so bravely 'man fstab'
[09:42] <dIsOrdEr> you can READ from ntfs from linux
[09:42] <dIsOrdEr> just not write
[09:42] <vinboy> how to unhide a directory?
[09:42] <ebe-1> That's not what I want to do.
[09:42] <gnomefreak> vinboy: ctrl+h
[09:43] <mwe> you can write to ntfs from linux with !ntfs-3g
[09:43] <stefg> !fuse
[09:43] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:43] <gnomefreak> vinboy: depends on how you are trying to veiw them
[09:43] <dIsOrdEr> yes, but it is not stable
[09:43] <mwe> !ntfs-3g
[09:43] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:43] <vinboy> gnomefreak: i want to unhide the whole folder, not just viewing them
[09:43] <mwe> ntfs-3g is a lot safer and faster
[09:43] <vinboy> i want to mark the folder as VISIBLE
[09:43] <vdepizzol> stefg, there is any plan for a "disks-admin" like app for feisty?
[09:43] <ikonia> vdepizzol: there are tons of disk tools
[09:43] <conner> oops joined the channel by accident
[09:44] <kitche> EDinNY: all I get when I search for your camera in linux is one page and it's a shop
[09:44] <mwe> ntfs-3g is supposedly twice as fast as windows native for some operations
[09:44] <humbolto> how would I create an encrypted partition in dapper?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> vinboy: what do you mean your trying to unhide it? if its hidden you want to see it use ctrl+h in nautilus
[09:44] <mharding> anyone have a starter guide for ubuntu
[09:44] <mharding> to get all the programs setup
[09:44] <ikonia> mharding: wiki.ubuntu.org
[09:44] <gnomefreak> vinboy: you cant open what you cant see ;)
[09:44] <ikonia> ubuntu.com sorry
[09:44] <stefg> vdepizzol: i don't know, because the reason for disk-admin being removed from edgy was AFAIK there's currently no maintainer for it
[09:44] <mharding> thanks
[09:44] <humbolto> mwe: and concerning ntfs-3g is this actually available and working properly in dapper?
[09:45] <mwe> humbolto: yes
[09:45] <ebe-1> Well can I just resize a partition, to make room for a FAT partition? Ubuntu, and Windows can read and write to that, right?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> humbolto: its unsafe
[09:45] <mwe> read the link uboty supplied
[09:45] <ebe-1> I just wanna pull some files over.
[09:45] <conner> before I go, scopeboy <3 ubuntu http://www.scopeboy.com
[09:45] <conner> exit
[09:45] <dIsOrdEr> you know there are safe drivers that you can read ext2/ext3 partitions from windows from right?
[09:45] <humbolto> gnomefreak: the later version which are in edgy and will be in feisty are save?
[09:45] <mwe> gnomefreak: why do you think it's unsafe? I read ntfs-3g has been extensively tested without causing errors.
[09:45] <gnutz> hello eveyone
[09:46] <vinboy> gnomefreak: what i mean is I want to permanently mark the folder as NOT hidden..
[09:46] <dIsOrdEr> so why move files around unnecessarily
[09:46] <ebe-1> lmao. But I have to get those drivers on to Windows.
[09:46] <stefg> ebe-1: true... but remeber that 4GB file size limit, and the inefficiency of fat32 on large drives... ntfs-3g isn't so bad
[09:46] <dIsOrdEr> copy them to a usb drive, it's usually fat32 formatted
[09:46] <gnomefreak> humbolto: there is no version we can call safe because windows will never release the ntfs info people need to make a safe one
[09:46] <gnutz> Got an extraction question
[09:46] <john_07> where i can find some dvds with all software of ubuntu ???
[09:46] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot
[09:46] <gnutz> anyone?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> vinboy: not sure if you can do that never tried
[09:47] <stefg> !DVD
[09:47] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:47] <vinboy> gnomefreak: thanks :D
[09:47] <ebe-1> I don't have a USB drive. All I want to do is get a couple of files. Some drivers specifically...for ethernet, so I can use the net on my Windows.
[09:47] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:47] <ebe-1> This is not long term.
[09:47] <kitche> vinboy: just mv the folder so it doesn't have a . in front
[09:47] <nikin> the binary drivers are installed
[09:47] <mwe> well supposedly ntfs has been extensively tested running on millions of files on different system without causing errors. at least that's what I read
[09:47] <gnomefreak> gnutz: ask your question please
[09:47] <mwe> ntfs-3g*
[09:47] <john_07> where i can find some dvds with all software of ubuntu ???
[09:47] <humbolto> gnomefreak: microsoft is about to shovel their own grave. just like ford and GM did.
[09:47] <john_07> isos of dvd!!
[09:47] <gnutz> k Gnome
[09:47] <humbolto> gnomefreak: it is so funny to watch, isn't it.
[09:48] <adaptr> john_07: you can order them, or download them from the mirrors, or get a torrent - have you heard of google ?
[09:48] <gnutz> I am trying to properly extract XXAMP into Ubuntu and File roller keeps poping up
[09:48] <humbolto> does anybody know anyone actually running vista or wanting to run vista?
[09:48] <foobarian> humbolto: why is everyone saying ford is going bankrupt, was there some news about this?
[09:48] <stefg> !offtopic
[09:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:48] <gnutz> the File Roller says I dont have perms to extract into the /opt file
[09:48] <Shaba1> did I miss the answer on recovering partitions
[09:48] <Shaba1> ??
[09:48] <nikin> humbolto: yep i know someone.
[09:48] <gnutz>  what da hell?
[09:49] <yukio> Is there a DC++ client for Ubuntu?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> gnutz: you you need to use sudo (your best bet is to do it from command line)
[09:49] <humbolto> foobarian: ford is building cars they can sell nowhere else than in the states
[09:49] <adaptr> Shaba1: what was the question ? not asked in the last 50 lines or so
[09:49] <xtknight> yukio: yes, although the name escapes me.  just search for it in synaptic
[09:49] <xtknight> !DC++
[09:49] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DC++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <gnutz> nome I understand that
[09:49] <gnomefreak> gnutz: you might beable to open file roller with gksudo but never seen it
[09:49] <john_07> yes..i have found some dvd but there are 2 kind of dvd: ubuntu dvd and kubuntu dvd. I'm interested to download all software of ubuntu beacuse in this way i can install all software on a pc not connect to the internet
[09:49] <gnutz>  what is the bash command for manual extraction
[09:49] <gnutz> ?
[09:49] <humbolto> foobarian: and even their other companies build better cars
[09:50] <gnomefreak> gnutz: tar -C /opt/whatever  file.tar.gz
[09:50] <yukio> xtknight, already done, nothing :\
[09:50] <humbolto> driving a ford is like running windows 2.0
[09:50] <kitche> gnutz: extraction for what?
[09:50] <stefg> john_07: read about local apt-repositories in the apt-howto
[09:50] <xtknight> gnutz: unzip <file.zip>    unrar -x <file.rar>   tar -xzvf <file.tar.gz>  gunzip -d <file.gz>     tar -xjvf <file.tar.bz2>
[09:50] <gnutz> for  XXAMP
[09:50] <gnomefreak> gnutz: why not just untar it where it is and sudo mv to /opt
[09:50] <stefg> !apt | john_07
[09:50] <ubotu> john_07: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:50] <gnutz> I want to make sure that install it right
[09:50] <gnomefreak> gnutz: what are you installing?
[09:51] <Flannel> gnomefreak: why XAMPP? when LAMP is literally a half dozen commands away, and under package management?
[09:51] <gnutz> what is sudo mv
[09:51] <gnomefreak> Flannel: im not installing anything :)
[09:51] <gnutz>  Im just not use to sudo yet
[09:51] <adaptr> john_07: you ...can't, there is probably 100Gb of software available, how many dvd's do you have ?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> mv == move
[09:51] <Flannel> gnutz, that's for you.
[09:51] <mwe> http://www.ntfs-3g.org/quality.html#testmethods <-- looks pretty convincing ;)
[09:51] <Shaba1> adaptr I asked if after I made a linux/ubuntu partition on my hd
[09:51] <john_07> i have 50 dvds...
[09:51] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot , i have installled the binary drivers... The EIP is smp_apic_timer_interrupt
[09:51] <humbolto> foobarian: everywhere but in the US Ford is known to be the worst car you can possibly buy.
[09:51] <jannu1> is there any program witch i can bind my media buttons on keyboard for xmms?
[09:52] <Shaba1> Then decicded I need room for windows
[09:52] <john_07> i have to use apt-on-cd ??
[09:52] <yukio> Anyone know how to get a working DC++ client for Ubuntu?
[09:52] <adaptr> !xbindkeys | jannu1
[09:52] <Shaba1> How hard is it to recover that space and have windows to recognize it again without reinstalling windows or reformating
[09:52] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[09:52] <Natalita> hola
[09:52] <mwe> xtknight: hey ;)
[09:53] <humbolto> foobarian: so how will they survive with 15 years old technology they can only sell in the US in a globalized market?
[09:53] <jannu1> adaptr thx ill try
[09:53] <Mace68> has anybody ever installed and booted ubuntu from an external usb drive?
[09:53] <Flannel> Shaba1: you'll have to reformat that partition
[09:53] <xtknight> mwe: hello
[09:53] <Shaba1> damn
[09:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Is there a guide to installing /boot /home etc to separate partitions/drives using 6.10 from the Desktop Live CD
[09:53] <Natalita> parece q nadie me entiende o si?
[09:53] <Shaba1> Oh well LIVECD only
[09:53] <adaptr> Shaba1: that's a Windows question, obviously... under Ubuntu, changing partition layouts is quite simple, but Windows may completely break depending on how you set it up in the first place
[09:53] <Music_Shuffle> While Ford's troubles are interesting I'm sure, how do they relate to support for Ubuntu?
[09:53] <bieb> Shaba, with disk manager, you can just format the partition to NTFS and your done
[09:53] <nn531_> can anyone help me with airsnort.. im completely retarded
[09:53] <Music_Shuffle> !es | Natalita
[09:53] <ubotu> Natalita: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:54] <xtknight> yukio: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/quality.html#testmethods
[09:54] <xtknight> yukio: err, wrong url
[09:54] <xtknight> yukio: for linux DC++ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378
[09:54] <dIsOrdEr> best bet, install windows first on the first partition, then install your distro..
[09:54] <john_07> can compiz run well on an ATI RADEON 7000 ??
[09:54] <dIsOrdEr> otherwise windows complains and fails and breaks often
[09:54] <yukio> thanks xtknight
[09:55] <xtknight> !dc++
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <xtknight> is there any way to add stuff to ubotu?
[09:55] <name> i have multiple versions of python installed, how do i set the one that's linked against "/usr/bin/python"
[09:55] <dIsOrdEr> symlink?
[09:55] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot , i have installled the binary drivers... The EIP is smp_apic_timer_interrupt
[09:55] <mwe> xtknight: yes.
[09:55] <name> there was i program
[09:55] <name> dIsOrdEr:
[09:56] <xtknight> name:  ln -s /actual/file  /usr/bin/python
[09:56] <xtknight> mwe: yes to what?  :)
[09:56] <mwe> xtknight: ubotu: foo is bar. then it must be reviewed by an op to be accepted
[09:56] <name> wasn't there a prog?
[09:56] <xtknight> mwe: oh
[09:56] <xtknight> mwe: foo is bar?  whaddya mean by that
[09:57] <mwe> xtknight: that would add the factoid foo causing ubotu to answer "foo is bar" for !foo
[09:57] <Music_Shuffle> ...as in...you say: "ubotu: dog is cat", and its submitted to the ops, and if they approve, then whenever you say !dog, it says cat.
[09:57] <xtknight> mwe: i see, so 'is' is the delimiter?
[09:57] <mwe> xtknight: right.
[09:58] <mwe> xtknight: see !usage
[09:58] <n2diy> ! ubotu
[09:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:58] <xtknight> !usage
[09:58] <Shaba1> bieb then I would have two ntsf partitions?
[09:58] <bieb> yeah
[09:58] <Shaba1> I mean I could not make the recovered one merge back into window some way without reformating?
[09:58] <Shaba1> Is what I meant
[09:59] <mwe> xtknight: the !ubotu factoid is the same that's why it didnt repeat the answer
[09:59] <bieb> hmmm.. I dont think Windows allows "expansion" of an existing volume
[09:59] <Flannel> Shaba1: I'm not sure if windows formatters can expand your partition like that.  It'd come down to what you were using, and what they supported.
[09:59] <nikin> Shabal: you can try use PQ magic.... but i ame realy not sure that it will work
[09:59] <IntuitiveNipple> bieb - yes it does, XP or 2003, you use the Diskpart.exe program, and the EXTEND command
[09:59] <xtknight> yukio: maybe this is a better url http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193984&page=1
[09:59] <bieb> Shaba1... take a look at Partition Magic for Windows
[10:00] <IntuitiveNipple> diskpart.exe, select disk X, select partition Y, extend <additional space to use in MB>, exit
[10:00] <bieb> IN.. cool.. thanks for that info. I didnt know you could do that
[10:00] <xtknight> ubotu: dc++ is DC++ is a Direct Connect file sharing program.  For instructions on how to set up Linux DC++, visit http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193984&page=1
[10:00] <IntuitiveNipple> the command are typed as I showed them there: "select disk 2"
[10:00] <IntuitiveNipple> "select partition 2"
[10:00] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot , i have installled the binary drivers... The EIP is smp_apic_timer_interrupt [intel_agp]  any ideas?
[10:01] <mwe> xtknight: you wouldn't do that. dc++ is DC++ is ;)
[10:01] <IntuitiveNipple> "extend 2000" will add 2GB from empty space on the disk that isn't used by other partitions
[10:01] <xtknight> mwe: really?  but I do want 'DC++ is' in the text it returns ;O
[10:01] <xtknight> or is it imperative that 'foo is' always be returned
[10:01] <mwe> xtknight: it would say dc++ is DC++ is ...
[10:01] <Shaba1> Ok I guess just live cd for now
[10:01] <nikin> xtknight: as you see i ame a bit further with my problem... still not solved tho :(
[10:01] <Shaba1> but that seems so cheesy
[10:02] <xtknight> LOL i give up ;)
[10:02] <mwe> ubotu: no, dc++ is a Direct Connect file sharing program.  For instructions on how to set up Linux DC++, visit http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193984&page=1
[10:02] <xtknight> thanks :P
[10:02] <mwe> ;)
[10:02] <xtknight> nikin: umm haven't really been following
[10:02] <xtknight> nikin: isnt that what you got last time or is that a different eip
[10:02] <Linuturk> !fiesty
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <Sonat> could anybody tell me why doesn't my num-keyboard work after i installed beryl? :P
[10:03] <nikin> i know... just i wanted to tel :D
[10:03] <killown> how I do to create virtual machine for to run in vmware player?
[10:03] <Sonat> nobody :D
[10:03] <adaptr> killown: the player cannot create machines
[10:03] <Music_Shuffle> !Fiesty
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <adaptr> heh
[10:03] <xtknight> killown: use vmware server (also free) or download a premade vmware image at http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/
[10:03] <toM|vendettA> hi, i currently have Ubuntu Edgy installed, but I want to install windows xp also so that I can use photoshop and a few other programs, are there any tutorials on how to install winxp and linux? I found a few tutorials but they all assume you have windows installed first, and i dont.
[10:03] <mwe> xtknight: you can use <reply> to have ubotu not prepend what you add with "blah is" I think
[10:03] <Music_Shuffle> There's no entry for Fiesty? Odd.
[10:03] <Valmarko> More games like Nexuiz ? anyone knows?
[10:03] <killown> thanks
[10:03] <adaptr> !feisty
[10:03] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:04] <nikin> i am afraid that maybe the agp driver has a problem... i use i386 kernel, is that ok?
[10:04] <svish> do you use cp to copy a directory and its contents too? or is there an other command for that?
[10:04] <xtknight> nikin: i386 ? yes should be fine for all x86 cpus (well all modern ones)
[10:04] <Music_Shuffle> adaptr, wow. Spelling ftl.
[10:04] <adaptr> svish: cp can do anything
[10:04] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: you will need to reinstall grub after installing windows - apart from that you are fine
[10:04] <Music_Shuffle> Thanks for that. xD
[10:04] <feryana> Hi guys!
[10:04] <svish> adaptr: cool.
[10:04] <xtknight> svish: cp -a
[10:04] <toM|vendettA> hjmills: so i can just install windows and it'll work fine? or what =s
[10:04] <feryana> I would like to save al my e-mailfolders from Evolution, and put all of them in other evolution. How can I do that?
[10:05] <xtknight> svish: cp does not recurse subdirectories.  cp -a does.
[10:05] <nn531_> does anyone know why my firefox is really slow?
[10:05] <svish> ok
[10:05] <adaptr> svish: if the last argument to cp ends in a slash it will be taken to be a directory, even if it does not exist - there is a switch you can use to make it create the destination directory
[10:05] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: windows will - but you need to reinstall grub to get linux working again
[10:05] <xtknight> svish: but if you cp one folder it will copy that folder AND its contents (minus its subdirectories) -a will do its subdirs/their files/subdirs/etc as well
[10:05] <jannu1> adaptr thx for xbindkeys, its awesome. is xbindkeys auto loaded in boot or should i do something?
[10:05] <nikin> !agp
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about agp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <nn531_> !airsnort
[10:05] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (edgy), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[10:05] <mwe> nn531_: how is it slow? loading the pages slowly or what?
[10:06] <adaptr> jannu1: the official site should tell you all it can do, I found the Ubuntu bits on ubuntuguide.org (may be .com)
[10:06] <jannu1> ok
[10:06] <toM|vendettA> hjmills: okay, i was on the grub website and it was a little shady as to what it did and i wasnt sure. grub just takes control of the computer when i start up and it lets me choose which operating system I want to go into?
[10:06] <nn531_> mwe: yeah the pages are loading really slow, but the downloads are still fast, I dont know wath the problem is
[10:06] <nn531_> mwe: it just seems like it isnt as responsive as it was when I was running windows
[10:06] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: grub either starts the win xp boot process or it loads the linux kernel and gives it a shove to get it going
[10:06] <svish> adaptr: so.. how would I do this: I have a directory called TestApp with some c++ sourcefiles. I want to copy them to new dir called TestApp2 or something
[10:07] <mwe> nn531_: I heard disabling ipv6 might help. let me find a link
[10:07] <Flannel> !ipv6
[10:07] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:07] <feryana> how can I save all my e-mail folders from Evolution? I would like to  make a whole backup of it, because I have several filters and important e-mails that I don't want to lose!!!
[10:07] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: when you rinstall windows it will put the windows boot loader (the equivalent of grub for windows) into the right place to start windows - unfortunatly this means grub is over written so you cant boot linux
[10:07] <xtknight> maybe ubotu's drunk, he just now added my dc++ request.
[10:07] <adaptr> svish: as said previously, use cp - a ("archive") to make a complete backup (or clone) of a directory including all permissions etc.
[10:08] <xtknight> or said he forwarded it over  :P
[10:08] <svish> ok
[10:08] <mwe> nn531_: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/72363-firefox-swiftfox-slow-down.html
[10:08] <svish> thanks :)
[10:08] <adaptr> svish: man cp for all details
[10:08] <Flannel> mwe: there's an ubotu link, just so you know for the future: ipv6
[10:08] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: as grub can boot windows as well you can boot from the ubuntu cd and run a few commands to install grub and grub will autodetect windows and you get a menu on startup to let you choose which you want
[10:08] <mwe> Flannel: oh
[10:09] <xtknight> does `cp -rf` not copy hidden files (files starting with .)?
[10:09] <xtknight> i noticed it did not, but -a did, last time i tried
[10:09] <toM|vendettA> okay, thanks for the help hjmills
[10:09] <feryana> !evolution
[10:09] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[10:09] <mwe> xtknight: I think -a also preserves perms and links correctly though -r might as well on newer systems
[10:10] <svish> adaptr: what is the create directory switch?
[10:10] <hjmills> toM|vendettA: sure - just come back if you need help
[10:10] <nn531_> mwe: holy christ that is fast now
[10:10] <nn531_> thank you so very much
[10:10] <nikin> ah i got fancy new error message :( it tends to be that the problem is in agpgart ... it detects my chipset right, but then i get "No prelocated video memory detected" and "AGP apreture size is 128M @ 0xD0000000"
[10:10] <mwe> nn531_: yw
[10:10] <mwe> xtknight: supposedly -a is the same as -dpR
[10:10] <xtknight> mwe: yeah
[10:10] <adaptr> svish: man cp does not tell you this ?
[10:11] <xtknight> mwe: i think because my cp -rf was lacking the p that hidden files did not get <p>reserved
[10:11] <svish> adaptr: cant find anything there no
[10:11] <feryana> how can I make a backup of an entire program with all the configurations and options (such filters on Evolution) Thanks
[10:11] <mwe> xtknight: probably
[10:11] <nikin> !agpgart
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about agpgart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <mwe> xtknight: I thought -r did copy . files though
[10:11] <Agrajag> feryana: all of your configuration for every program exists in your home directory. Back up your home directory.
[10:12] <n2diy> feryana: are you in X?
[10:12] <feryana> n2diy I have dapper drake 6.10
[10:12] <adaptr> svish: you're right - that's odd, I thought it was in there
[10:13] <n2diy> feryana: click on places-home folder.
[10:13] <xtknight> mwe: youre right it does.  i guess i wasnt doing ls - al and only ls when i thought i had missing ones.  i just tested it and rf copies hidden ones
[10:13] <Agrajag> feryana: 6.10 is edgy eft
[10:13] <feryana> Agrajag, so I copy .evolution folder to an external hard drive, and all my mails and configs will be done?
[10:13] <k6> hi all
[10:13] <adaptr> svish: no worries - the target dir will always get created
[10:13] <Agrajag> config, yes. I don't know for sure if it keeps your mail there.
[10:13] <diazamet> I am trying to get a Ralink RT61 wireless card working but I can't get onto the ralink website to download the firmware.  Anyone know anywhere else to get it?
[10:13] <feryana> ok...
[10:13] <feryana> and also
[10:13] <hjmills> !grue
[10:13] <ubotu> The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster)
[10:13] <k6> i tried to upgrade hoary to edgy but it didn't work ! i rebooted and now i don't have a xserver anymore :(
[10:13] <k6> what shoudl i do ?
[10:13] <xtknight> feryana: ideally you cuold use evolution's export functions
[10:13] <adaptr> svish: I just tested this - if the source is an entire directory, just running "cp -a sourcedir destdir" will work like you would expect it to
[10:14] <Agrajag> feryana: looks like evolution keeps your mail in .evolution/mail
[10:14] <svish> adaptr: cp TestClass/ TestMake/ -a returned cp: target 'TestMake/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[10:14] <feryana> can I make a backup of my entire system, wilth all my files? I would like to copy all of this to other pc
[10:14] <Agrajag> feryana: so yeah, back up that folder
[10:14] <adaptr> svish: leave the slashes off
[10:14] <feryana> Agrajag ok thanks a lot!
[10:14] <\lart> So, I've read over the (absurdly long) thread on the forums about disabling ipv6.  And I'm just curious - why kill a fly with a sledgehammer?  Seems pretty clear that it's an application config problem, and not the underlying OS, since simply disabling the ipv6 dns queries in FF makes the problem vanish...
[10:14] <svish> adaptr: ah.. without those..
[10:14] <svish> adaptr: doh :p
[10:14] <n2diy> feryana: use my nick when you reply, so it is highlighted for me. Ok, can you see your /.evolution directory?
[10:14] <Agrajag> feryana: best thing you could do is back up your entire home directory.
[10:14] <Flannel> k6: you can't upgrade straight from hoary to edgy.  You need to go hoary > breezy > dapper > edgy.  As for what to do now, depends on what's broken.
[10:14] <xtknight> sounds like a long process.  why not just install edgy?  hehe
[10:15] <feryana> n2diy yep I copied the entire folder .evolution
[10:15] <xtknight> feryana: you can test your backup by creating another user and then seeing if it sees the mail
[10:15] <nikin> so i have an Asrock I845G based Motherboard with an internal VGA and an AGP port... if i use the internal VGA then everything is just fine... but if i try to use the Geforce4MX 440 in the AGP slot, then it freezes on boot , i have installled the binary drivers... The EIP is smp_apic_timer_interrupt [intel_agp]  any ideas?