[12:01] <ladydoor> Die: /dev/sda1      /path/to/mountpoint/you/totally/already/created    auto    rw,user,noauto,uid=1000  0       0
[12:01] <Zoohouse> Nevermind, Just found a neat app: KTOONS
[12:01] <Die> paste it in?
[12:01] <ladydoor> Die: actually, cut out the uid bit
[12:01] <JacksLivr> hello all.... Question. If i installed ubuntu and wish I had installed kubuntu... do i need to start over? or can i fix this by uninstalling gnome and installing KDE?
[12:01] <SeanTater> Does anyone have a wireless G card that works easily with Linux, something you'd recommend?
[12:01] <seeking1> alephant: you are nothing more than a mentally ill, and condescending pride filled arrogant boy!  You suffer depression and mental sickness and I suggest you go away and take your medication boy!
[12:01] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[12:01] <enlaces> lidy
[12:01] <ladydoor> Die: please change it where appropriate. for example, please don't leave the imaginary path i put in there
[12:01] <alephant> lol
[12:02] <enlaces> hola
[12:02] <iLLf8d> heh
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> alephant: rtfm is NOT appreciated in here
[12:02] <iLLf8d> ladydoor, unless its an imaginary hd =P
[12:02] <SeanTater> !es > enlaces
[12:02] <seeking1> alephant: ppl with a low, unhealthy self esteem talk like you do, in a condesending manner!
[12:02] <Die> so.... dev/sda1  ??
[12:02] <seeking1> alephant: take your mental medication and go away
[12:02] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: you can uninstall gnome and install kde
[12:03] <ladydoor> Die: first of all, it's /dev/sda1. second, that's not imaginary (at least i hope it's not--you did check, right?). look at the SECOND path in there.
[12:03] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: installing kde and keeping gnome is easier though
[12:03] <ladydoor> Die: read the words in the second path
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Anyone with some bandwidth who can grab the PPC edgy beta ISO - please joing the swarm at http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-beta-desktop-powerpc.iso.torrent We need seeds!
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JacksLivr: Or you can just keep both or three or four
[12:03] <A-L-P-H-A> what's an uber flow charting app?
[12:03] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: install kubuntu-desktop
[12:03] <JacksLivr> and that will acomplish the same thing as if i had used kubuntu?
[12:03] <iLLf8d> my neighbor told me his powersupply died, i told him I had a spare and would fix it for them, but they said no I could have it. I came home and in front of my door was keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers (apparently he thought the pc tower was the power supply)
[12:03] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: yes
[12:03] <ladydoor> Die: the words that say "path to mountpoint you totally already created"
[12:03] <hockyhair> after installing some updates mplayer is running very slow, and xv and xover modes do not work xvinfo shows no adapters present, need help!
[12:03] <mon^rch> there is font inconsistancy if you use both gnome and kde...
[12:03] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: for even closer to the same thing, also install kdm
[12:04] <mon^rch> better to start over
[12:04] <Die> ya.... there   I put in /dev/sda1   right?   thats where my drive is..
[12:04] <JacksLivr> SeanTater: why keep gnome?
[12:04] <ladydoor> Die: yeah...i guess put it in pastebin after you're done.
[12:04] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: but it;s difficult to remove
[12:04] <Die> pastebin?
[12:04] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: /because it's difficult/
[12:05] <JacksLivr> SeanTater: ok, how much space am i using with it?
[12:05] <ladydoor> Die: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org...sorry
[12:05] <ladydoor> Die: and then send me the link
[12:05] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: probably not more than 300 MB
[12:05] <moonlite> nautilus burn tells me this: "Please replace the disc in the drive with a supported disc with at least 4529 MiB free". But the disk i put in was a DVD-R 4.7GB disk, so why is it complaining, any ideas?
[12:05] <thedash> how does one install motherboard drivers on linux?
[12:05] <Die> sorry man.... i don't get it?   what do you want me to paste?
[12:06] <mon^rch> JacksLivr, I would just start over with a kubuntu d/l it'll only take an hour...
[12:06] <alephant> thedash, you typically won't need to.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[12:06] <thedash> I am having some problems with my hardware, not sure the cause
[12:06] <Die> /dev/sda1      /media/scsidisk    auto    rw,user,noauto,uid=1000  0       0
[12:06] <alephant> peppo: what's the status of your problem?  I'm utterly lost in this window :-)
[12:06] <ladydoor> Die: yes, that was what i wanted you to paste. and i'm not a man; thus the nick.
[12:06] <ethos_> god I wish there was a way to remove those damn "leaving/entering" chats!
[12:06] <FlaX> when doing mkinitrd it gives me command not found is it possible to fix that?
[12:06] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: But if you do reinstsll and use kubuntu from scratch, DON'T FORGET TO BACKUP
[12:07] <Die> sorry.... it's a figure of speach...
[12:07] <Die> sry
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: yes you can
[12:07] <JacksLivr> SeanTater: is just installed ubuntu last night
[12:07] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: good
[12:07] <ladydoor> Die: that should work, though i notice you did keep the uid part. i guess that's fine, if you want it to be owned by you. ok, now you can mount it :-)
[12:07] <Die> I'm just too much of a hippy for computers I think
[12:07] <ethos_> Jack_sparrow:oh ya?
[12:07] <ladydoor> Die: i'm a total hippy
[12:07] <Die> lolz
[12:07] <JacksLivr> as long as it leaves my other partitions alone, ill be fine
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: Which IRC client do you use?
[12:07] <ladydoor> Die: lol...i'm not even kidding
[12:07] <alephant> Die: hippies were the original hackers
[12:07] <Die> so I should save and exit then?
[12:07] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: If you change distros often, you may want to have a data partition
[12:08] <Die> true
[12:08] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: um-
[12:08] <alephant> Die: you're among friends :-D
[12:08] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: I missed the above
[12:08] <Die> lolz
[12:08] <Die> thanks
[12:08] <ladydoor> Die: i'm just grumpy
[12:08] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:xchat-gnome...
[12:09] <alephant> So, does anybody have a clue about which linux-restricted-modules to use with a linux-image-server kernel?
[12:09] <Kojima-Kazuma> hey
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: So you would ask...  How do you turn off join part notifications in Xchat-Gnome..?
[12:09] <JacksLivr> SeanTater: I had a laptop with xp on it and one big partition. i resized it last night and made a 10GB for ubuntu and a 25 fat32 for data. the Xp still works fine.
[12:09] <seeking1> alephant: did you get my message?
[12:09] <Kojima-Kazuma> im having a problem installing sun java
[12:09] <Die> Oh no!!!!.....
[12:09] <seeking1> Kojima-Kazuma: its easy
[12:09] <sonium> can I block access to a specific host?
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: I personally use Konversation
[12:09] <seeking1> Kojima-Kazuma: get easyubuntu
[12:09] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: I keep 2 partitions for os's and one for data so I can (re)install whenever I like
[12:09] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:ya that what I meant
[12:09] <Die> I exited and It didn't save....
[12:09] <Die> OOPS...
[12:09] <seeking1> Kojima-Kazuma: go to #easyubuntu
[12:09] <alephant> sonium: you can set an iptables rule pretty darn easy for that
[12:10] <Kojima-Kazuma> ok
[12:10] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:havent checked that out yet
[12:10] <ladydoor> Die: well, luckily you pasted the line to the channel :-)
[12:10] <ladydoor> Die: so now you can paste it right back in
[12:10] <ladydoor> Die: and then you can mount it
[12:10] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:I probably should huh?
[12:10] <ladydoor> Die: good luck!
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: Someone will answer it
[12:10] <alephant> IIANM iptables -A OUTPUT -d piratez.quake.com -j DROP
[12:10] <Die> done...
[12:10] <Die> how do I save it?
[12:11] <ladydoor> Die: control-o
[12:11] <JacksLivr> part1: 47MB: dell rescue | part2: 25GB: XP | part3: 10GB ubuntu | part4: 1GB: swap | part5: 25GB :fat32 for data
[12:11] <hockyhair> i need somehelp getting mplayer to play at decent speeds again
[12:11] <Die> and    "enter"  ?
[12:11] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:well, I guess I should put more of an effort instead of crying wolf...
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: It will be in the settings
[12:11] <ladydoor> Die: i guess so
[12:11] <JacksLivr> i can install kubuntu on the 10GB with no prob and keep all the other stuff happy, right?
[12:12] <thedash> so, I am having some problems, and I can't seem to find the source.  I am trying to copy files from a USB2.0 drive to a SATA II drive, and while my math says it should finish in about 5 seconds, the "time remaining" bar says something usually around 1 hour, 35 minutes
[12:12] <Die> do I have to restart My PC?
[12:12] <mon^rch> yes j
[12:12] <Flannel> Die: right, it'll prompt you for a filename after the ^o
[12:12] <ladydoor> Die: nope! only for new kernels
[12:12] <surabachi> i am havin gmajor issues compiling gimmie bar, any help would be greatly apreciated. my problem is a huge mystery to most!!!!
[12:12] <Die> ok
[12:12] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:ya, i've been checking out all places I would think the setting would be at.   And is there a port available for Linux?
[12:14] <ladydoor> Die: what's it spit out?
[12:14] <randreas69> I r**ed slackware to give it a try too.. no such luck
[12:14] <randreas69> I'm keeping my gentoo stable too
[12:15] <Die> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[12:15] <alephant> thedash, and have you wated out the usb transfer to see how long it actually takes?
[12:15] <ladydoor> Die: ok, "do" in this context means "type in." sorry i wasn't more clear
[12:15] <alephant> drew_: scorched earth!?!?
[12:15] <ladydoor> Die: mount /dev/sda1 . you may need to sudo it.
[12:16] <peppo> what to do if a friend can't even log in to the 1st console as root, and sudo is broken?
[12:16] <mon^rch> reinstall
[12:16] <mon^rch> :-)
[12:16] <alephant> peppo: try an Ubuntu rescue disk to see whether you can hand-fix...
[12:16] <surabachi> anyone good at compiling errors?
[12:16] <peppo> he's a novice
[12:16] <peppo> and I'm not there
[12:16] <alephant> ...but mon^rch may also be correct
[12:16] <alephant> :-D
[12:16] <ladydoor> peppo: actually, you can boot to the recovery-mode
[12:16] <peppo> how the hell can /etc/sudoers break?
[12:17] <Die> it's not doing anything.... just blinking.... not even going back to prompt.
[12:17] <thedash> also, my computer seems to "skip" a lot now.  If I tell it to do anything, it will freeze for 1-3 seconds, about once every 10 seconds
[12:17] <ladydoor> peppo: it's one of the options in grub. also, please don't curse.
[12:17] <Die> and my PC's freezing up....
[12:17] <alephant> thedash, wow, that sounds just like a problem I had with some old IBM hardware...
[12:17] <ladydoor> Die: errr...what kind of filesystem is it?
[12:17] <alephant> thedash: does the problem go away if you reboot, but then come back again after "a while"?
[12:17] <gimmulf> Whats the best backup tool to use?
[12:17] <ladydoor> Die: also, you *did* check to make sure it existed, right? you never did answer me
[12:17] <thedash> no, its immediate as far as I can see
[12:18] <new2linx> can some1 tell how to take a screenshot in xubuntu? when I hit the prt scrn button on my laptop nothing happens?
[12:18] <alephant> thedash: the slowdown is immediate?
[12:18] <thedash> and its not that old of hardware
[12:18] <Die> the sda1?   it's ubuntu... the whole thing
[12:18] <ladydoor> new2linx: does something happen or doesn't it
[12:18] <Die> ya it exists
[12:18] <new2linx> nothing happens
[12:18] <thedash> its only if I am doing something intensive, like copying files, or loading stuff
[12:18] <alephant> thedash: is your computer clock correct?
[12:18] <thedash> yes
[12:18] <new2linx> is that something I have to setup in  a keymapping file?
[12:18] <ladydoor> new2linx: yeat
[12:18] <alephant> thedash: so how long does your usb transfer actually take?
[12:18] <new2linx> ladydoor can you tell how?
[12:19] <ladydoor> Die: so what kind of filesystem is it?
[12:19] <thedash> its still trying to figure it out
[12:19] <Die> im not too sure... what is ubuntu by default?
[12:19] <new2linx> can someone help me map the print screen button to take a screenshot in xubuntu?
[12:19] <thedash> its been copying the first file [about 3 MB]  for the past 14 minutes
[12:19] <Die> the other drive is a brand newrive with only ubuntu on it
[12:19] <alephant> thedash: hm.
[12:19] <ladydoor> new2linx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237408 . replace the "mute sound" stuff with your button.
[12:20] <alephant> thedash: can you see any error messages in /var/log/syslog or dmesg?
[12:20] <Die> it's not NTFSanything
[12:20] <jimmy_neutron> anyone? im getting the error "network access denied" when i try to map a samba share
[12:20] <alephant> I need to go!
[12:20] <new2linx> ladydoor i'll check it out. is it going to self explanatory?
[12:20] <alephant> peppo, thedash, good luck
[12:20] <alephant> gotta run
[12:20] <ladydoor> Die: ok. is it still frozen? also, what environment are you in currently?
[12:20] <peppo> thanks
[12:20] <drew_> Is there a linux port available for scorched earth?
[12:20] <ladydoor> new2linx: i tried to make it that way...it starts a couple posts down, by LadyDoor
[12:20] <mon^rch> drew_,  yeppers
[12:21] <thedash> yes, dmesg returns a lot of errors
[12:21] <drew_> mon^rch, what's it called/
[12:21] <ladydoor> Die: i.e., are you on a livecd or something?
[12:21] <surabachi> i am having major gimmie compiling issues, please help!!
[12:21] <Die> im in GNOME  and it freezes in and out for 3 or 4 seconds at a time.... and it happensevery 10 second or so
[12:21] <mon^rch> scorched earth, actually
[12:21] <drew_> rofl.
[12:21] <new2linx> THANK YOU.
[12:21] <jimmy_neutron> im getting the error "network access denied" when i try to map a samba share, any ideas?
[12:21] <thedash> mostly like: [17190715.256000]  ata1: command 0x25 timeout, stat 0x58 host_stat 0x60
[12:21] <mon^rch> it's in the repos...
[12:21] <surabachi> Flannel, you back yet?
[12:22] <new2linx> ladydoor, next thing, i can't get an iso image mounted? i am using sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 FC3-i386-disc1.iso /mnt/iso
[12:22] <ladydoor> Die: that's truly bizarre. i'm really sorry, i've got nothing on that--theoretically, it should've worked if the computer was detecting it and it's formatted properly and all. i'd ask the whole channel.
[12:22] <new2linx> and it doesn't work?
[12:22] <ladydoor> new2linx: does /mnt/iso exist?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> new2linx: does the dir /mnt/iso exist?
[12:22] <ladydoor> new2linx: does it work or doesn't it?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> heh
[12:23] <harisund> What does -o loop mean in a mount command?
[12:23] <mon^rch> drew_,  reprint... it's called scorched3d
[12:23] <ladydoor> new2linx: if something doesn't work, you don't have to *ask* us whether it works or not--a question mark means it's a question.
[12:23] <new2linx> ladydoor yes, this is what it says. mount: Not a directory
[12:23] <Die> I had it working yesterday just fine.... but the person who helped me gave me a  waebsite.... I lost the site though......
[12:23] <eurytus> to use a file as a loopback device
[12:23] <Die> it was really simple too.
[12:23] <new2linx> doesn't work~!
[12:23] <surabachi> i have errors when trying to run gimmie bar after i compile it, and make it?
[12:23] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[12:23] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:23] <GameOver69> can anyone help me with the following error? http://pastebin.com/796420
[12:23] <ladydoor> new2linx: right, so does the dir exist?
[12:24] <ladydoor> new2linx: (ls /mnt...if it doesn't spit anything out, it doesn't exist)
[12:24] <new2linx> ladydoor, i meant to write a !
[12:24] <jimmy_neutron> can someone help me plz? i get the network access denied when i try to mnt samba share in win. help!
[12:24] <thoreauputic> new2linx: sudo mkdir /mnt/iso
[12:24] <matt__> how do I install flash 7 on breezy??
[12:24] <ladydoor> new2linx: fair enough
[12:24] <Die> im gonna try a restart....
[12:24] <Die> that always helps.
[12:24] <thoreauputic> !flash
[12:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:24] <mon^rch> thoreauputic, its better to make mount points in /media for ubuntu
[12:24] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i know that thank you!
[12:24] <surabachi> can i have help with compiling?
[12:25] <thoreauputic> mon^rch: I'm aware of the convention
[12:25] <ladydoor> new2linx: ok, i've got to run. please check to see if the dir exists, and if not, create it with mkdir
[12:25] <thoreauputic> mon^rch: in pracice either works fine
[12:25] <thoreauputic> *practice
[12:25] <new2linx> mon^rch,  that's where I actaully have it, i just posted that cause that the example I followed from a forum and didn't feel like changing it again.
[12:25] <surabachi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[12:25] <new2linx> ladydoor, the dir exists
[12:25] <jimmy_neutron> someone gas to know the answer
[12:25] <surabachi> i need help with that error
[12:25] <Kojima-Kazuma> Im have trouble with easy ubuntu and no one is replying in the easy ubuntu rooom
[12:26] <Kojima-Kazuma> can any one help
[12:26] <surabachi> Kojima-Kazuma,  whast ur problem
[12:26] <thoreauputic> !easyubuntu
[12:26] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:26] <new2linx> thoreauputic, can you help me diagnos this?
[12:27] <surabachi> anyone want a challenging problem to try and help me wiht, no one has solved it yet, its just a big mystery
[12:27] <thoreauputic> new2linx: well, mount -o loop name.iso /mount/point  should work - you need sudo I suspect
[12:27] <LjL> !ask
[12:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:27] <Kojima-Kazuma> When i install easy ubuntu and try to run it nothing happens and when ever my comp. tries to load java the app. would shut down
[12:27] <new2linx> thoreauputic, after I type in sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 sp-tw07.iso /media/isoimage
[12:27] <new2linx> Password:
[12:27] <new2linx> mount: Not a directory
[12:27] <jimmy_neutron> i get the network access denied when i try to mnt samba share in win. help!
[12:27] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i am using sudo?
[12:27] <LjL> !tell Kojima-Kazuma about nothing
[12:27] <new2linx> thoreauputic, what's up with this?
[12:27] <thoreauputic> new2linx: umm - I take it you have a dir called /media/isoimage
[12:27] <Kojima-Kazuma> wtf
[12:27] <surabachi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[12:27] <new2linx> thoreauputic, yes
[12:28] <fscott> Hello
[12:28] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: does /media/isoimage actually exist?
[12:28] <asc> Which gstreamer plugin, if any, adds .m4a support?
[12:28] <new2linx> thoreauputic, maybe i'll try somthing else, can you inform me of a prgram that can extract an iso
[12:28] <new2linx> Shadowline, yes
[12:28] <asdfa> what is the command to start vmware player in ubuntu?
[12:28] <LjL> asdfa: strangely enough, "vmware-player" ;)
[12:28] <thoreauputic> new2linx: you don't extract an iso - it's an image
[12:28] <new2linx> Shadowline, come on now, i am not that dumb. i am a newbie but come on.
[12:28] <new2linx> tho
[12:29] <Kojima-Kazuma> so does anyone know whats wrong ...
[12:29] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: sudo mkdir /media/isoimage
[12:29] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: and try the other again
[12:29] <LjL> asdfa: oh sorry it's actually "vmplayer", my bad
[12:29] <thoreauputic> new2linx: but I think file-roller can handle iso s
[12:29] <new2linx> thoreauputic, exactly, am image of a bunch of stuff and I need to extract the contents to my xbox.
[12:29] <rem__> hey where can you see the system specifications ... ? /proc/ .. ?
[12:29] <surabachi> help with compiling anyone?
[12:29] <new2linx> Shadowline,
[12:29] <LjL> asdfa: anyway a tip, if you type "dpkg -L name-of-package", it will show all files that a package contains... you can usually find the name of the executable from there
[12:29] <new2linx> Shadowline, i already dd that
[12:29] <new2linx> Shadowline, dd=did
[12:29] <fscott> I'm messing around with software RAID and have some questions about it.  Does anyone feel like answering what are probably dumb questions?
[12:30] <asdfa> LjL: thx
[12:30] <Subhuman> fscott, !ask
[12:30] <Subhuman> !ask
[12:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:30] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i have been unsuccessful in burning it to a dvd as nero linux erros out as well as gnomebaker??? i am trying anything to get this game on my xbox?
[12:30] <surabachi> compiling help please?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> new2linx: just a guess - try running sudo modprobe loop first
[12:30] <rem__> hey where can you see the system specifications ... ? /proc/ .. ?
[12:31] <Zambezi> I have big problems with K3B. It doesn't erase my DVD+RW. Is there an option to K3B?
[12:31] <thoreauputic> new2linx: I assume the iso is actually OK - is the md5sum correct?
[12:31] <matt__> why is it some video sites say i need the newest version of flash installed and i just installed it
[12:31] <new2linx> thoreauputic, NOOP, tried it, nothing spit out so I am guessing it was successful but then whn I did the mount command again I getthe same eror?
[12:31] <surabachi> matt__, cause u need flash 9, and linux dosent have flash 9
[12:32] <matt__> ooooh, so how do i get flash 9
[12:32] <thoreauputic> rem__: try  lshw | less
[12:32] <rem__> ty
[12:32] <new2linx> thoreauputic, letsassume so!
[12:32] <new2linx> thoreauputic, oops, lets asume so.
[12:32] <surabachi> matt__, u cant really. But do u have wine?
[12:32] <scratchme> When you run Ubuntu, and you have an app say, FireFox, what's the best way to update it, if it was in the list of installable apps via System: Administration: Add Applications ?
[12:32] <rem__> /proc/cpuinfo is what i needed :)
[12:32] <peppo> hrm. a user should be in the "users" group right? using users-admin, and it's not showing the "regular user" as part of users. it was also not part of admin, so we had to add that username to /etc/sudoers manually
[12:32] <fscott> fair enough.  I've set up RAID with two identical IDE disks.  For now, they are master and slave on the same cable.  I know that's bad performance wise, but it works well enough for testing.  / is set up as RAID1, and swap is RAID0.  I can switch which drive is master and slave, and the system works fine.  But if I disconnect the slave, the system won't boot anymore.
[12:32] <surabachi> can i have help compiling?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> new2linx: well, your command looks OK so I'm running out of ideas
[12:32] <matt__> ya i have wine
[12:32] <FlaX> !boot
[12:32] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:32] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i'll try to mount an iso that I know is good than i'll let you know
[12:33] <thoreauputic> k
[12:33] <mon^rch> wine rocks...
[12:33] <surabachi> matt__,  search google for somethign called ie4linux
[12:33] <fscott> To make that a question, let me add the following.  "WTF?"
 I have big problems with K3B. It doesn't erase my DVD+RW. Is there an option to K3B? <-- did you fixate the disk?
[12:33] <Shadowpillar> matt__: wait until february
[12:33] <Shadowpillar> ;O
[12:33] <matt__> ok thanks
[12:33] <Zambezi> Shadowline, Fixate?
[12:33] <surabachi> Shadowpillar, is february when flash 9 comes out?
[12:33] <new2linx> thoreauputic, how can i go back one directory in th terminal? without having to type in the whole location again?
[12:33] <LjL> new2linx: "cd .."
[12:33] <LjL> !cli
[12:33] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:34] <mon^rch> cd ..
[12:34] <thoreauputic>  cd ..
[12:34] <Shadowpillar> matt__: or for those sites that need it right now, install the latest wine from the winehq repositories and download firefox for windows and install flash 9
[12:34] <Shadowpillar> surabachi: they're aiming for that time, might be sooner
[12:34] <surabachi> thoreauputic, can i have help with an error i get trying to run a program after i compile it?
[12:34] <new2linx> thoreauputic,  see I am a newbie. NO cd is just going t take me back to my home location. i don't want that
[12:34] <surabachi> Shadowpillar,  i cant wait!!
[12:34] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i only want to go back 1 folder
[12:34] <thoreauputic> new2linx: two dots
[12:34] <thoreauputic> new2linx:  cd ..
[12:34] <sorush20> can't i upload image to the paste bin anymore?
[12:35] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: ...
[12:35] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: cd is a command
[12:35] <gnomefreak> sorush20: no
[12:35] <Shadowpillar> stands for "change directory"
[12:35] <surabachi> gnomefreak,  can i have help with a compiling issue?
[12:35] <new2linx> thoreauputic, oh cd and then a space and then 2 dots, thanks, hang on, I am gonna try to mount an iso I know is good
[12:35] <scratchme> What's the best way to update the dependencies for the System: Administration: Add Applications in Ubuntu?
[12:35] <LjL> new2linx: "cd .." -- that's  c d dot dot
[12:35] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: and .. means the previous directory in unix terms
[12:35] <scratchme> (get the new stuff)
[12:35] <thedash> I believe I have figured out my problem, but I have no way to know how to fix it
[12:35] <matt__> ya it works on wine thanks guys
[12:35] <gnomefreak> surabachi: that will depends on the problem you are having
[12:35] <mon^rch> (space)
[12:35] <scratchme> For example, it shows that I'm upto date, but I got firefox 1.07 and FireFox 1.5x is the latest.
[12:36] <surabachi> gnomefreak, my problem is a bit long to explain so i wrote it at this link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[12:36] <LjL> !ff1.5
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff1.5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <new2linx> thoreauputic, Interesting, that one won'
[12:36] <gnomefreak> !ff
[12:36] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:36] <LjL> !firefox
[12:36] <mon^rch> firefox bon echo is a lil better (methinks)
[12:36] <surabachi> gnomefreak,  no one has been able to solve my problem yet, its a huge mystery
[12:36] <thoreauputic> Anyone with a bit of bandwidth who wants to help the Ubuntu PPC community - please help to seed the Edgy beta torrent
[12:36] <new2linx> thoreauputic, 't mount either! it might be because they are xbox images and not normal iso9660's??
[12:36] <thedash> is there any way to check a RAID setup from the OS?
[12:37] <thoreauputic> new2linx: no idea, sorry
[12:37] <LjL> thoreauputic: okee. is someone behind a NAT useful?
[12:37] <sorush20> could someone recommend another paste bin with image support please.. and change to topic to tell everyone
[12:37] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i burn them using alcohol the sameway thoough???
[12:37] <thoreauputic> LjL: sure, if you forward your torrent ports
[12:37] <fscott> !raid
[12:37] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:37] <scratchme> LjL, thx.
[12:37] <gnomefreak> surabachi: there is not really a fix for it  gimmie needs to be re-worked its looking for files ubuntu no longer uses
[12:37] <LjL> thoreauputic: no can do, the NAT is on the ISP side
[12:37] <new2linx> thoreauputic, well can you help me burn an iso? or point me out to a program that spits out the contents of an iso into adirectory?
[12:37] <surabachi> gnomefreak,  thnask i wil ltel lthem
[12:38] <scratchme> Heh, compared to ##windows, this channel hops.
[12:38] <FlaX> !grub
[12:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:38] <mon^rch> (doesnt file-roller browse iso's)?
[12:38] <thoreauputic> new2linx: you can burn an ISO from nautilus by right-click on the file - but if it isn't an ISO, that won't really help much :)
[12:39] <thoreauputic> new2linx: what does the command "file nameofyourfile.iso " say ? ( no quotes, substitute your file name from the same dir)
[12:39] <new2linx> thoreauputic, it is an iso, it has .iso. i tried the nautilus thingy and it failed also. hang on i'll do what you asked
[12:40] <thoreauputic> mon^rch: I believe it does, in fact I mentioned that about 15 minutes ago ;-)
[12:40] <mon^rch> yepp...
[12:40] <new2linx> thoreauputic, ah ha, this is what it states, clr-totov.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data
[12:40] <new2linx> thoreauputic, awesome, so wtf?
[12:40] <thoreauputic> new2linx: looks OK from here - hang on a tic
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> Can someone tell me what's going on here? - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25028/
[12:41] <fscott> Has anyone else tried using software RAID with IDE drives?
[12:41] <new2linx> thoreauputic, k
[12:41] <thoreauputic> new2linx: yes, that seems right for an ISO :)
[12:42] <mon^rch> amazing the ammount of users for such an early distro, eh???
[12:42] <thoreauputic> new2linx: what does   lsmod | grep loop  say ?
[12:42] <new2linx> thoreauputic, hang on, i'll tell u in a sec
[12:43] <thoreauputic> mon^rch: either I'm burned out, or the average IQ in #ubuntu is trending downwards ;-)
[12:43] <mon^rch> now, be nice...
[12:43] <thoreauputic> ;-) joking :)
[12:43] <mon^rch> :-D
[12:43] <WhiteDeth> how is ubuntu and early distro?
[12:44] <WhiteDeth> *an
[12:44] <thoreauputic> WhiteDeth: less than 2 years old
[12:44] <mon^rch> because it's relatively young in comparison...
[12:44] <WhiteDeth> young in comparison doesnt mean people wont bite :)
[12:44] <mon^rch> hey... BITE away... ubuntu rocks
[12:44] <new2linx> thoreauputic, loop                   18536  0
[12:44] <WhiteDeth> and it has other perks too remember? Only reason I chose Ubuntu over any of the other builds is because of how well it goes with XGL :)
[12:45] <thoreauputic> new2linx: OK just making sure the module was loaded - so that isn't it either
[12:45] <scratchme> !aptitude
[12:45] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:46] <scratchme> How do you "get" the aptitude program?
[12:46] <scratchme> apt-get install aptitude
[12:46] <scratchme> ?
[12:47] <mon^rch> dont forget to sudo...
[12:47] <new2linx> thoreauputic, ?
[12:47] <thoreauputic> scratchme: it's already there :)
[12:47] <scratchme> Wasn't for me.
[12:47] <mon^rch> :0
[12:47] <thoreauputic> yes, it is
[12:47] <Phoul>  Im buying a new moniter, 17 or 19" tonight, How would i go about setting it up? ((hard?))
[12:47] <thoreauputic> scratchme: it's installed by default
[12:47] <mon^rch> plug it in
[12:48] <Phoul> mon^rch, what about the sync and mode lines and such
[12:48] <scratchme> thoreauputic, that's great, but it wasn't on this install.
[12:48] <tat> hmm.. anyone good with pam_mount? i use it to mount some smb-shares when i log in. some times my network is not plugged in when i do that (using a laptop).. is it possible to mount the shares without a pass afterwards?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> scratchme: well, you are not running ubuntu then
[12:48] <mon^rch> theyre built into the monitor
[12:49] <scratchme> thoreauputic, I guess that's not ubuntu it says as the OS starts.
[12:49] <mon^rch> trust me itll just work...
[12:49] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i am trying to burn a data cd to see if my burner is working?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> scratchme: I won't argue with you - see what  apt-cache depends ubuntu-standard and apt-cache rdepends aptitude say
[12:50] <new2linx> thoreauputic, how can i find other channels to go to for more specific help? I amnew to irc'ing?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> scratchme: sorry, apt-cache depends ubuntu-minimal
[12:51] <scratchme> thoreauputic, a whole big list of apps.
[12:51] <mon^rch> (holy evil /nick's batman)
[12:51] <thoreauputic> apt-cache depends ubuntu-minimal | grep aptitude
[12:51] <new2linx> thoreauputic, hello?
[12:51] <scratchme> Well, the first one ubuntu-stanndard  doesn't have it.
[12:52] <scratchme> The  minimal does.
[12:52] <thoreauputic> new2linx: *cough* I'm doing several things here - be patient please
[12:52] <scratchme> Anyway, I got it now.
[12:52] <scratchme> Via apt-get.
[12:52] <thoreauputic> scratchme: that's why I corrected myself
[12:53] <mon^rch> lol poof
[12:53] <thoreauputic> scratchme: you don't get an ubuntu install without ubuntu-minimal - thus aptitude is there from the start - trust me
[12:53] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i was trying to be patient. asked a q and then waited awhile, then double checked to see if you were gonna answer me. sorry
[12:54] <thoreauputic> new2linx: just address your questions to the channel - I'm not always here and in any case I've run out of ideas to be frank
[12:55] <scratchme> thoreauputic, well, which  aptitude retured nothing.
[12:55] <new2linx> thoreauputic, ok, i am asking how do i find another channel, i am new to irc'ing?
[12:55] <scratchme> Also, when I tried to run the firefox  1.5.0 upgrade/install  script from ubotu, it said it was a misssing command.
[12:55] <thoreauputic> scratchme: *sigh* I've told you the truth - you must have doen something creative to manage not to have aptitude
[12:55] <Stevo> is there any way in the cli to see if there's errors due to use of Automatix?
[12:55] <mon^rch> new2linx, what prog. u using?
[12:56] <THX-1138> Hi - How do you restart a finished torrent ( Wanted to give back some bandwidth to Ubuntu.)
[12:56] <scratchme> thoreauputic, go to VMWare download Ubuntu Web Browsing appliance, and see for yourself.
[12:56] <scratchme> It's a pre-install of ubuntu.
[12:56] <new2linx> mon^rch, none yet, i am having a difficult time working with  xbox iso's in linux
[12:56] <scratchme> You'll have to download about 1GB to prove me wrong though.
[12:56] <thoreauputic> scratchme: see what for myself? That's a third-party blob - not an Ubuntu install
[12:56] <new2linx> i either want to burn it to a dvd or extract it and ftp into my xbox
[12:57] <new2linx> mon^rch, i either want to burn it to a dvd or extract it and ftp into my xbox
[12:57] <scratchme> Well, I didn't say *I* installed it, I just asked  how to add aptitude.
[12:57] <scratchme> Thanks though.
[12:57] <thoreauputic> scratchme: heheh - OK well you've corrected the mistake so that's cool :)
[12:58] <mon^rch> new2linx, I tried doing xbox for my bro, without much success. sorry
[12:58] <THX-1138> Hi thoreauputic - How do i make the ubuntu tracker aware of the torrent file i have already downloaded?
[12:58] <stu_> whats the channel for beryl or whatever?
[12:58] <new2linx> mon^rch, you tried chipping one?
[12:59] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: just click it - should open in gnome-btdownload or watever it is called
[12:59] <thoreauputic> *whatever
[12:59] <new2linx> mon^rch, or you tried working with downloaded iso's. i mean working with an iso I backed up from the game I OWN!
[12:59] <mon^rch> nah, just burning iso's and copyright protection... they just plain ol' didnt work
[12:59] <fredrich> anyone know if there's a mediatomb deb file abounds in the wild somewhere?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> stu_: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:59] <fredrich> i have a hard time getting it workin
[12:59] <THX-1138> "gnome-btdownload' - Okay i can google the rest. - Thank You.
[01:00] <new2linx> mon^rch, hello?
[01:00] <mon^rch> see above
[01:00] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: you don't need to - just click the torrent file
[01:00] <godtvisken> My MBR is on my windows HDD, but I want to take that HDD out and move it into a different computer. How can I put my MBR on my linux drive?
[01:01] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: by default it will open in the bittorrent client
[01:01] <new2linx> mon^rch, oh, thanks anyway
[01:01] <mon^rch> sorry
[01:02] <GameOver69> can anyone help me with the following error? http://pastebin.com/796420
[01:02] <peppo> what's the package manager called in ubuntu? a friend wants to know. where in menus can it be found?
[01:02] <new2linx> mon^rch, i didn't see your answer cause it wasn't in red. i am new to irc. how do i go to a dirrent channel
[01:02] <peppo> er, in version 6.
[01:02] <mon^rch> new2linx, type /join #linux
[01:03] <mon^rch> or something else
[01:03] <mon^rch> make sure you use #
[01:03] <Shish> peppo: synaptic is the standard one, but there are several (although they all use the apt back end)
[01:03] <peppo> must it be installed manually? he can't find it
[01:03] <peppo> he said it was under Administration in ubuntu 5
[01:03] <Shish> it's installed by default -- without it, you wouldn't be able to install anything else :P
[01:04] <new2linx> mon^rch, that didn't work
[01:04] <peppo> a GUI package manager?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> System- ADmin- Synaptic Package Manager
[01:04] <peppo> thanks
[01:04] <mon^rch> new2linx, then you didnt type it correctly
[01:04] <godtvisken> My MBR is on my windows HDD, but I want to take that HDD out and move it into a different computer. How can I put my MBR on my linux drive?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> peppo: but easier is add/remove programs in the main menu
[01:04] <new2linx> mon^rch, /join #linux
[01:05] <mon^rch> what kinda weird client are you using then???
[01:05] <Phant> Linux n00b here. I just installed ubuntu, and was looking for software that would play a shoutcast stream.
[01:05] <new2linx> mon^rch, tried again, same thing. how can i view a list of channels available on freenode?
[01:05] <MakuraRyu> I would like to make a ubuntu file server that is windows compatible. I just finished installing the server version of ubuntu what else should I do, all I get is the command line
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Phant: sudo aptitude install streamtuner xmms streamripper
[01:05] <MakuraRyu> thanks in advance
[01:05] <shwag> trying to install xen.  the wiki says  sh install.sh   should say "OK"  but it doesnt.  It says not a valid dis dir, source-only release. the guide doesnt tell me what to do next.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenOnUbuntuBinaryInstall
[01:06] <thoreauputic> MakuraRyu: sudo aptitude install samba
[01:06] <ladydoor> MakuraRyu: ummm, a server doesn't come with a gui--it's more secure, since you need to know what you're doing at least a little to screw it up.
[01:06] <thoreauputic> !samba > MakuraRyu
[01:06] <Phant> Thanks.
[01:07] <shwag> oh, its because i downloaded the source and not the binary
[01:07] <starleaf> Umm help please... No acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:07] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[01:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:07] <ladydoor> starleaf: install build-essential
[01:08] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[01:08] <starleaf> Thanks! :)
[01:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:08] <ladydoor> starleaf: np :-)
[01:08] <mon^rch> new2linx, sorry, gtg supper calls (google is your friend)
[01:08] <new2linx> monwow, thanx
[01:08] <peppo> is synaptic installed by default?
[01:09] <LjL> yes
[01:09] <LjL> !synaptic
[01:09] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:09] <fatbrain> !msfonts
[01:09] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:09] <der0b> hey folks, is there some place, some rc file that I can set up some default options for bittorent?
[01:09] <MakuraRyu> @thoreauputic thanks
[01:09] <thoreauputic> MakuraRyu: np :)
[01:10] <Phant> Thoreauptic, works great. thanks again.
[01:10] <thoreauputic> Phant: nice isn't it ? :-)
[01:10] <harisund> Hello! Is there any web based software that allows me to administrate *all* aspects of my machine? (And one that is supported in Ubuntu?)
[01:10] <thedash> I think Ubuntu hates me
[01:10] <Phant> Yes it is.
[01:10] <superkirbyartist> J need help: I get error 8 (Connect script failed) with wvdial.
[01:10] <bouanan> hi
[01:10] <likewhoa54> did lilo project get abandoned?
[01:10] <LjL> harisund: i think the closest to that would be webmin...
[01:10] <harisund> !webmin
[01:10] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[01:10] <Phant> Next thig to figure out is how to broadcast to the shoutcast server from it.
[01:10] <LjL> hm
[01:10] <thoreauputic> Phant: if you click the record button, it rips the stream for you  as well
[01:11] <Phant> sweet!
[01:11] <peppo> he has synaptic
[01:11] <peppo> but no entry in the menus
[01:11] <peppo> weird
[01:11] <thoreauputic> Phant: if you want to stream music, look at gnump3d
[01:11] <superkirbyartist> Excuse me?!
[01:11] <Phant> I'll look into that. thanks alot.
[01:12] <thoreauputic> !gnump3d
[01:12] <ubotu> gnump3d: A streaming server for MP3 and OGG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.8-2 (dapper), package size 634 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[01:12] <thedash> I think my Ubuntu is sick
[01:12] <menace> does someone use a wintv pv 250 with ubuntu?
[01:12] <thedash> it times out trying to display a folder on my OS drive, and nautilus closes :X
[01:12] <Rasta> re
[01:12] <jimmy_neutron> how do i remove this: Linux Linux 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux      from the ssh welcome msg when looging in via ssh?
[01:12] <superkirbyartist> Please help me.  I get error 8 with wvdial.
[01:13] <thoreauputic> jimmy_neutron: probably edit /etc/issue.net ( not certain but that is likely)
[01:13] <Rasta> i have a fresh install of Hoary, it would be better update that installation or instal Dapper drake from scratch?
[01:13] <hondje> jimmy_neutron: edit /etc/motd
[01:13] <delaney> Curious if anyone knows of a way to change the firefox icon that appears in the taskbar.. that ugly blue globe drives me BONKERS
[01:14] <thoreauputic> jimmy_neutron: hmm maybe not - that only has the Ubuntu version in it
[01:14] <thoreauputic> hondje: ah, yes motd! thanks
[01:14] <matthew_w> Is there a way to network my Xbox 360 to my Linux box so I can use media center?
[01:14] <SEN-5421> hi... I am looking for the default linux kernel .config file that comes with Ubuntu 6.06 dapper. Where can I get a copy?
[01:14] <hondje> thoreauputic: No problem ... but now I'm wondering if PrintMotd no is default or if I did that myself :-/
[01:14] <jimmy_neutron> thx. just found it
[01:15] <thoreauputic> hondje: I think you did it yourself - that is definitely what I see when I ssh into an Ubuntu box
[01:15] <thoreauputic> :0
[01:15] <hondje> okay :)
[01:15] <thoreauputic> oops . :-)
[01:15] <jiSh> matthew_w: you can't use media center with anything other than windows media center 2k5
[01:15] <jiSh> matthew_w: there are a few programs in the works to enable music streaming though
[01:16] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: in /boot
[01:16] <jiSh> matthew_w: check at www.xbox-scene.com
[01:16] <matthew_w> Cool, thanks.
[01:16] <matthew_w> That's all I wanted to do was music stream, anyway.
[01:16] <matthew_w> Cheers.
[01:16] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, yes, I do not have Ubuntu installed at the moment. I need a copy of this .config file now though.
[01:16] <jiSh> np
[01:16] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, know of a copy online? or can you post it to pastebin.ca ?
[01:17] <ocra> there is a boot manager in ubuntu?
[01:17] <xopher> grub?
[01:17] <moonlite> ocra: well yes, grub i think
[01:17] <ocra> i need to manage boot and re make the lilo, windows repair caused this...
[01:17] <xopher> or what do you mean by boot manager?
[01:17] <hot_wheelz> Hi guys how's it going?
[01:17] <moonlite> even windows has a boot manager you know (that it happily installs in MBR without asking on installation)
[01:17] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: it depends what you mean - the one on the CD or the security updated ones ? 386 arch?
[01:17] <jack_> hello
[01:18] <MrRio> hot_wheelz, hey there :)
[01:18] <sidman> hello!
[01:18] <jack_> chg
[01:18] <matthew_w> jiSh: Where is it on this page?
[01:18] <xopher> ocra, just reinstall it to the hdd's MBR
[01:18] <sidman> I got a question?
[01:18] <MrRio> sidman: sure, ask away
[01:18] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, x86 linux kernel .config that comes with Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper.
[01:18] <hunkyspunky> hello
[01:18] <jack_> i am jack
[01:18] <hunkyspunky> i got a little problem,
[01:18] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: it has changed since the 6.06.1 release
[01:18] <ocra> whats the speedy and true way for this? i dont wanna go for reinstall...
[01:18] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, the one that you get installed on your system by default.
[01:18] <sidman> how good is ubuntu at finding devices on my computer?
[01:19] <hunkyspunky> got the latest unbuntu live cd from shipit
[01:19] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, ANYONE works.
[01:19] <jack_> i like cheese
[01:19] <SEN-5421> :-(
[01:19] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: I no longer have that one
[01:19] <Bennedetto> anyone here have any suggestions for some hard drive based mp3 players that are supported in ubuntu?
[01:19] <wanted> hi, how i read with totem the file in the samba directory(of other pc)?
[01:19] <Bennedetto> i dont like using proprietary software to transfer music
[01:19] <hot_wheelz> guys i have a sugestion on how to imporove 6.10 just a bit
[01:19] <redcard> Wow.
[01:19] <MrRio> sidman: pretty good, what hardware have you got?
[01:19] <likewhoa54> hot_wheelz: REALLY? YOU HAVE an IDEA?
[01:19] <godtvisken> How can I move my MBR and grub stuff from one HDD (which I want to take out) to another?
[01:19] <hunkyspunky> when i run live cd i just get a screen with green lines through.. but the previous version of ubuntu work...
[01:19] <hunkyspunky> i got the nvidia 6800 256mn video card
[01:19] <likewhoa54> hot_wheelz: amazing....I'm glad you have opinions....feel free to email dev team at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and we'll get right on it
[01:19] <redcard> Umm.. This Dapper -> Edgy upgrade held back a ton of packages.  Now X doesn't start at all.. and I noticed Xserver-core is one of the packages held back.
[01:19] <jerrcs> hi. i have a problem: "passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info."
[01:20] <Lunar_Lamp> Bennedetto - i have a Cowon iAudio X5 - it is a little old now but still VERY good, and support is being made in RockBox (a linux OS for mp3 players)
[01:20] <der0b> hey folks, is there some place, some rc file that I can set up some default options for bittorent?  things like min & max port and upload rate?
[01:20] <redcard> So how do I get it to remove all holdbacks?
[01:20] <Lunar_Lamp> redcard - did you "dist-upgrade" too?
[01:20] <redcard> Lunar_Lamp: Yes.
[01:20] <hondje> likewhoa54: Is there a reason you're flaming someone without hearing what they have to say, or are you so unbelievably arrogant that you don't think any improvements are worthy of hearing?
[01:20] <MrRio> hey, no need to be so sarcastic to hot_wheelz
[01:20] <sidman> well, I got a p4, cd rom dvd/cd rw and networkcard and a hard drive ide
[01:20] <redcard> Lunar_Lamp: I have Nvidia drivers in play, and I recompiled those as well.
[01:20] <MrRio> hot_wheelz, what's your idea?
[01:20] <Bennedetto> Lunar_Lamp: i was looking at that one, but i didn't seem to use drag and drop functionality
[01:20] <sidman> and nvidia
[01:20] <hunkyspunky> can anyone help me in a pm ?
[01:20] <Lunar_Lamp> drag and drop? i use it all the time
[01:21] <Lunar_Lamp> it's a usb hard drive that can play music in effect
[01:21] <redcard> Lunar_Lamp:  X is linked to /bin/true.
[01:21] <SEN-5421> can someone please paste a copy of their linux kernel .config file to a website so that I can check some IDE / SCSI module settings?
[01:21] <Bennedetto> Lunar_Lamp: in the dreaded windows too?
[01:21] <likewhoa54> hondje: the arrogant part is right
[01:21] <redcard> I mean, literally, it held back all of X :)
[01:21] <likewhoa54> hondje: you got me there
[01:21] <Lunar_Lamp> Bennedetto - yes
[01:21] <Bennedetto> alright, im sold
[01:21] <SEN-5421> Ubuntu 6.06 that is
[01:21] <Lunar_Lamp> just copy folders of files over into the MUSIC folder on the player and theyll be picked up and play
[01:21] <sidman> so if I install it now will I be able to connect to the intenet when I get up and runing?
[01:21] <hunkyspunky> can anyone please help me ?
[01:21] <redcard> What I'm wanting to do is undo all the holds.  Is there a way in aptitude to see all the holds and clear them out?
[01:22] <hondje> hot_wheelz: what's your idea?
[01:22] <MrRio> hunkyspunky, just pm'd you
[01:22] <hunkyspunky> ok sorry did see
[01:22] <hot_wheelz> yes likewhoa54 as u know u do andate from the patches they are single threaded wouldn't it cool if they were multi threaded that means if you did an update it would be done quick what do u guys think?
[01:22] <redcard> Anyone?  I'm just wanting to remove all the hold backs..
[01:23] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25109/  <-- 2.6.27 for 386 config file
[01:23] <jerrcs> hi. I'm having a passwd problem: http://pastebin.ca/185445
[01:23] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, thx alot!
[01:23] <sidman> can I connect to the network after I install ubuntu
[01:24] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: that's from /boot/config-2.6.15-27-386
[01:24] <hunkyspunky> MrRio, please check ur pm when u get a chance
[01:24] <hondje> hot_wheelz: would be nice, I hear there's a decent reason they haven't done that yet but I cant' tell you waht it is offhand
[01:24] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: hope it pasted OK - I have torrents running and it was kind of slow....
[01:24] <Bennedetto> Lunar_Lamp: thanks, now ive just got to find one for cheap :P
[01:24] <MrRio> hunkyspunky, i can't see one
[01:24] <kitche> jerrcs did you install pam?
[01:24] <jerrcs> kitche: why?
[01:24] <Lunar_Lamp> Bennedetto  hehe, wel, you can#t have mine :-p
[01:24] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, looks fine, thx
[01:24] <jerrcs> oh and whats odd is, i can passwd as root..
[01:25] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: yw :)
[01:25] <kitche> jerrcs: it just seems like a pam issue with the user permissions
[01:25] <jpiccolo_>  anyone know why ftp transfers across a network would go really slow?
[01:25] <jerrcs> kitche: know how to fix it? :(
[01:26] <hunkyspunky> you guys think ubuntu would be better then widnows ?
[01:26] <lupine_85> depends
[01:26] <lupine_85> windows is better for playing the latest games
[01:26] <hunkyspunky> i'm running vista now.. seems its ok.. but thinking about permanetkly switching to ubuntu
[01:26] <Sidman_feelsigno> can I CONNECT TO THE INTERNET AFTER I INSTALL ubunTu
[01:26] <lupine_85> linux is bettr for most everything
[01:26] <hunkyspunky> but don't know what i get for software
[01:26] <redcard> Ugh.
[01:26] <lupine_85> ....else
[01:26] <hunkyspunky> ok
[01:26] <thoreauputic> Sidman_feelsigno: yes, and don't yell, thanks
[01:26] <kitche> jerrcs oh wait you have to do sudo passwd unless you did it as root
[01:26] <hunkyspunky> should i chose mac or linux ?
[01:26] <MrRio> Sidman_feelsigno: yes you can
[01:26] <MrRio> hunkyspunky, linux
[01:26] <lupine_85> hunkyspunky: packages.ubuntu.com (IIRC)
[01:27] <wanted> hi, how i read with totem the file in the samba directory(of other pc)?
[01:27] <thoreauputic> hunkyspunky: strange question to ask in a linux channel
[01:27] <Sidman_feelsigno> I hope it recongizes all my drives?
[01:27] <lupine_85> it will tell you all the packages available to you in a single command
[01:27] <godtvisken> which hdd does (hd1,0) mean in grub?
[01:27] <hunkyspunky> sorry
[01:27] <hunkyspunky> just really curious
[01:27] <lupine_85> godtvisken: hdb1
[01:27] <hunkyspunky> and like for games,  wil like need for speed run.. and will my nvidia video card run ?
[01:27] <godtvisken> lupine_85: thanks
[01:27] <lupine_85> Mac OS X is based on *nix anyway, so tehre are some similarities
[01:27] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[01:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:28] <hunkyspunky> ok thanks
[01:28] <lupine_85> as for games... some Windows games will run under Wine/Cedega
[01:28] <jerrcs> kitche: ummm. nobody on my box can change passwords.. thats the problem
[01:28] <redcard> Darn.  Seriously, does anyone have a way to keep files from being "held back" by apt-get?
[01:28] <hot_wheelz> while  i'm here i do have one question for you guys is it posible todo a net install with ubuntu?
[01:28] <lupine_85> 3D graphics are supported on nvidia cards
[01:28] <lupine_85> redcard: dist-upgrade ?
[01:28] <kitche> jerrcs not even root?
[01:28] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, specify the package in install
[01:28] <jerrcs> kitche: root can, nobody else can.
[01:29] <thoreauputic> !netinstall
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:29] <redcard> lupine_85: Nope.
[01:29] <redcard> lupine_85: I followed EdgyUpdate to get here.
[01:29] <kitche> jerrcs well you have to sudo passwd <user> to change that user password
[01:29] <jerrcs> kitche: well how come the user cant change his/her password his/her-self?
[01:29] <jerrcs> thats the problem
[01:29] <lupine_85> some python ones have been held back
[01:29] <lupine_85> that's because edgy default is python 2.5 IIRC
[01:30] <redcard> lupine_85: Yes, but this is X.
[01:30] <redcard> I mean, all of X is held back.
[01:30] <lupine_85> cor
[01:30] <lupine_85> that's not right
[01:30] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: they should be able to by just typing passwd
[01:30] <lupine_85> is ubuntu-desktop installed?
[01:30] <jerrcs> kitche: im not stupid here. i know i cant change other passwords without being root
[01:30] <TrevorT> could someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?
[01:30] <TrevorT> could someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?
[01:30] <jerrcs> thoreauputic: they get: http://pastebin.ca/185445
[01:30] <redcard> Nope.
[01:30] <redcard> But now it will be ;)
[01:30] <lupine_85> that should fix it
[01:30] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: looking
[01:30] <redcard> lupine_85: Apparently sometimes if you remove a package.. it pulls ubuntu-desktop.
[01:30] <lupine_85> of course, if you've got kubuntu, then kubuntu-deskop
[01:31] <lupine_85> yes
[01:31] <hot_wheelz> Thanks
[01:31] <redcard> Well, if you don't have that, it breaks the Dapper -> Edgy upgrade.
[01:31] <lupine_85> ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on what canonical consider to be essential
[01:31] <kitche> jerrcs: it's how ubuntu set's up permissions
[01:31] <lupine_85> they assume you have it during the upgrade procedure - it makes life easier for them
[01:31] <jerrcs> kitche: no its not. its a problem on my system.
[01:31] <redcard> lupine_85: Yes.  But not having it kills the upgrade in beta.
[01:31] <lupine_85> less transitional packages to worry about, etc
[01:31] <jerrcs> kitche: a NORMAL user cannot change his or her own password
[01:31] <squee> I'm running the gameserver / webserver for a lan party.  what do I have to do to make it so when they go to uatlan.com, it takes them to my webserver?  I know it's something with bind...
[01:31] <jerrcs> thats the problem
[01:31] <PFA> can someone help me resize my partitions?
[01:31] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: haven't seen that one
[01:32] <jerrcs> you cannot tell me thats how ubuntu will be, nobody can change their passwords anymore
[01:32] <bruenig> PFA, gparted
[01:32] <TrevorT> could someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?
[01:32] <TrevorT> really should be taken out of the package tree ...
[01:32] <lupine_85> jerrcs: wrong
[01:32] <redcard> lupine_85: I'll see if this works, then I'll hang out on launchpad and make certain this gets communicated.
[01:32] <PFA> bruenig: i tried it, it doesnt work :/
[01:32] <lupine_85> I just tried it
[01:32] <TrevorT> or someone should put a hold on working on edgy until you have a *working* stable release of dapper...
[01:32] <jerrcs> lupine_85: thats the problem im having.
[01:32] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: looks like something is wrong with pam perhaops - just guessing though
[01:32] <jerrcs> thoreauputic: well i know nothing of pam.. so bah ;(
[01:32] <lupine_85> presumably something has wrong permissions then
[01:32] <jerrcs> lupine_85: well, like what? i can check
[01:32] <bruenig> PFA, make sure you aren't resizing it to small
[01:33] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: unfortunately neither do I - i suggest you post to the ubuntu-users mailing list
[01:33] <TrevorT> just in case nobody heard me the past 5 times
[01:33] <TrevorT> could someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?
[01:33] <PFA> bruenig: nope, it has 11GB currently w 7GB used and i want to put it to 9GB
[01:33] <TrevorT> could someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?
[01:33] <squee> trevort: it works for some cards I believe ( not mine..)
[01:33] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[01:33] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: stop repeating
[01:33] <TrevorT> that's absurd, what's the point?
[01:34] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: if someone knows they will help
[01:34] <TrevorT> thoreauputic: stop the scrolling
[01:34] <lupine_85> jerrcs: start at the top and work your way down
[01:34] <bruenig> TrevorT, we are not developers
[01:34] <lupine_85> permissions of /usr/bin/passwd ?
[01:34] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: attitude
[01:34] <bruenig> nor do we maintain the repos
[01:34] <lupine_85> should be -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root      27840 2006-07-11 16:11 passwd
[01:34] <bruenig> !patience
[01:34] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:34] <TrevorT> then what are you? why do you exist??
[01:34] <squee> thoreauputic trevort: Its known that it doesn't work for anything higher than I think 9800.  I have an x700 and it always crashes on the default install
[01:34] <LjL> TrevorT: to give voluntary support?
 The people in this channel are volunteers
[01:34] <kitche> jerrcs did I say it was a pam issue before? but usually if pam is messed up it will be hard to get it working like it should be
[01:34] <TrevorT> thoreauputic: you have a misinterpretation of attitude problem :)
[01:34] <thoreauputic> oops
[01:35] <jerrcs> lupine_85: how am i supposed to know what is correct though?
[01:35] <TrevorT> but towards what end? you're supporting something that isn't even stable.. and hasn't been for some time now
[01:35] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: well OK - just take it easy
[01:35] <thissuckshardly> yo
[01:35] <lupine_85> I have a working one here
[01:35] <bruenig> if you wanted to ask, how do I revert what happened when I was retarded and installed a useless package, then perhaps we could have done that. But as to why those in power do what they do, we cannot help there.
[01:35] <lupine_85> so I can point out any possible errors to you
[01:35] <TrevorT> thoreauputic: you seem to have my disposition confused with someone who is mad..
[01:35] <LjL> TrevorT: are you just being a troll? if so, just go away...
[01:35] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: you are starting to sound trollish
[01:35] <TrevorT> I'm just irritated at the situation :)
[01:35] <jerrcs> lupine_85: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 27840 2006-07-11 11:11 /usr/bin/passwd
[01:36] <lupine_85> there's your problem
[01:36] <TrevorT> thoreauputic: you're very presumptious
[01:36] <lupine_85> it should be -rwsr-xr-x
[01:36] <thoreauputic> sorry but that's enough
[01:36] <heaths> lol
[01:36] <jerrcs> lupine_85: oh. shoot... well, how do I change?
[01:36] <lupine_85> now, I have no idea what that s stands for. suid?
[01:36] <LjL> TrevorT, we're supporting ubuntu because we like it, wether it's stable or not, and would like people to use it and be happy with it. on the other hand, nobody's *forcing* us to help anybody, nor is anybody *paying* us. if we know, and we're looking, and feel like, we answer, otherwise we don't.
[01:36] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: I'll remove it in a few minutes
[01:36] <heaths> i was to: wtb oper
[01:36] <LjL> TrevorT: if you don't like that, well, buy paid support! that's what those companies exist for...
[01:37] <Homer> hello
[01:37] <squee> does anyone in here know how to use bind?
[01:37] <lupine_85>  can anyone else enlighten me and jerrcs ?
[01:37] <jerrcs> squee: i do
[01:37] <Homer> what is a scandisk like app for ubuntu?
[01:37] <lupine_85> fsck
[01:37] <jerrcs> fsck, homer.
[01:37] <Homer> gui
[01:37] <thissuckshardly> yo yo
[01:37] <picochu> hey guys is SLI disabled with AIGLX?
[01:37] <lupine_85> ...
[01:37] <jerrcs> gnome-terminal then fsck
[01:37] <jerrcs> :>
[01:37] <picochu> this is what i get
[01:37] <squee> jerrcs: I'm trying to set up a dns for a lan party, what do I have to do?  You dont have to get specific I just need a push in the right direction
[01:37] <picochu> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SLI" "auto"
[01:37] <picochu> (**) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI auto-select rendering option.
[01:37] <picochu> (WW) NVIDIA(0): DamageEvents are not currently compatible with SLI.   Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:38] <Homer> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[01:38] <Homer> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[01:38] <lupine_85> kitche: any idea how to set it using chmod?  :)
[01:38] <lupine_85> Homer: yep
[01:38] <jiSh> duh
[01:38] <Homer> uh
[01:39] <LjL> ops: thissuckshardly, tester
[01:39] <jiSh> unmount it.
[01:39] <thoreauputic> LjL: ?
[01:39] <jerrcs> squee: i see. well, http://langfeldt.net/DNS-HOWTO/BIND-9/ maybe?
[01:39] <lupine_85> it's going to be / ...
[01:39] <jiSh> umount /dev/whatever
[01:39] <Homer> if I unmount it
[01:39] <thissuckshardly> wtf means Ops ?
[01:39] <LjL> thoreauputic: exchange between tester and thissuckshardly
[01:39] <irielion> cuz lighttpd seems only to work locally
[01:39] <Homer> can I still be on IRC
[01:39] <irielion> and nobody is blocking my ports
[01:39] <Homer> and have an unmounted HDD?
[01:39] <mipstien> im having a problem and i can't seem to get help on the forums :(. . . e2fsck runs on bootup and finds errors and cannot continue, i use the live cd and run it and it finds and fixes errors every single time i restart and go back into live cd. the problem isnt' goin away
[01:39] <jiSh> Homer: if you boot from a livecd
[01:39] <lupine_85> Homer: if it needs checking, it'll do it on startup
[01:39] <heaths> squee: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3956/ pretty decent with some walk throughs
[01:39] <lupine_85> this isn't Windows
[01:39] <sopido> hi is there a howto for (dist-)upgrading dapper to edgy beta? like common pitfalls?
[01:40] <btdown> I'd like to change one of my runlevels to boot into text mode. I unlinked gdm and usplash..anything else I need to do?
[01:40] <kothz> Hrm.  Dapper + 802.11b BCM4304 wireless card.  Do I have a hope without the (sacrilege of using) ndiswrapper/windows driver combos?
[01:40] <lupine_85> (or Tiw, the sky god ;) )
[01:40] <squee> heaths & jerrcs:  Thanks, i'll look into those both
[01:40] <Amaranth> sopido: Pain, much pain.
[01:40] <lupine_85> !upgrade
[01:40] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:40] <kitche> lupine_85: I do but can't really look it up since I m in class right now
[01:40] <Homer> lupine_85: my bios said SERVE HARD DISK DAMAGE! BACKUP AND REPLACE HARD DRIVE! PRESS F1 TO CONTINUE.
[01:40] <sopido> Amaranth, i can stand pain :)
[01:40] <lupine_85> kothz: there is a native driver for that
[01:40] <LjL> !caps
[01:40] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:40] <Homer> it said it in caps
[01:40] <Homer> heh
[01:40] <lupine_85> you need firmware for your card
[01:40] <lupine_85> !bcm43xx
[01:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:40] <LjL> Homer: ;-)
[01:41] <Amaranth> Homer: Time to get a new HD.
[01:41] <Homer> so
[01:41] <kothz> thanks wulfy. :)
[01:41] <thissuckshardly> thoreauputic: i`m gonna kick your ass boy ! dont do this again
[01:41] <Homer> no
[01:41] <LjL> Homer: i dunno, but that sounds like SMART talking
[01:41] <Homer> but  I think it may be wrong
[01:41] <sopido> hmm the wiki is utterly slow atm :(
[01:41] <Homer> yeah
[01:41] <Amaranth> Homer: You have to run fsck from a LiveCD
[01:41] <Homer> LjL: it's S.M.A.R.T
[01:41] <Homer> what is smart do
[01:41] <LjL> Homer: do you have SMART enabled on your BIOS? if so, and it's actually a SMART warning, well, it's extremely serious
[01:41] <kitche> lupine_85 should be chmod -s though to get rid of the sticky
[01:41] <lupine_85> go there and find the bcm43xx driver. there's also a ubuntuforums topic
[01:41] <ziro01> no
[01:41] <Amaranth> SMART asks the HD if it's failing
[01:41] <jerrcs> lupine_85:times like these i wish i could just chmod -rwsr-xr-x it
[01:41] <lupine_85> but we want the sticky...
[01:41] <Homer> well
[01:41] <LjL> Homer: yeah, SMART, S.M.A.R.T., whatever... anyway, it checks wether your HD is failing
[01:41] <Homer> how come my HDD seems to work
[01:42] <lupine_85> if smart says the hard drive is dying, it's on the way out
[01:42] <LjL> Homer: and when it says it's failing, it's usually failing (usually it's *already* failed, actually)
[01:42] <lupine_85> get a backup
[01:42] <Homer> I should run fsck to see what it finds out
[01:42] <Amaranth> Homer: I'm willing to bet if you run fsck on it it'll kill the disk.
[01:42] <kothz> My experience with SMART is that the warning comes as the drive is on the way out the door :)
[01:42] <Homer> I just bought the fu*king thing 30 days ago
[01:42] <Amaranth> Homer: Take it back.
[01:42] <LjL> Homer: happens with new drives...
[01:42] <lupine_85> then you should have RTB
[01:42] <Homer> ok
[01:42] <Homer> no WD
[01:42] <Amaranth> heh
[01:42] <lupine_85> ...from ebay?
[01:42] <Amaranth> worse
[01:43] <LjL> Homer: take it back, they'll know from the SMART parameters that you didn't break it. and if they still claim you did, then tell them you know they can check that you didn't
[01:43] <Homer> why do hard drives not work
[01:43] <kitche> lupine_85: but jerrcs should look at /etc/passwd and the /etc/shadow file to make sure their perms are right
[01:43] <Homer> with me
[01:43] <lupine_85> indeed
[01:43] <jerrcs> kitche: they are.
[01:43] <lupine_85> that was next :)
[01:43] <Homer> this is the second hard drive in 2 years
[01:43] <jerrcs> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root   3327 2006-09-28 19:39 /etc/passwd
[01:43] <jerrcs> -rw-r----- 1 root   shadow 3110 2006-09-28 19:39 /etc/shadow
[01:43] <LjL> Homer: modern hard drives can be sort of temperamental
[01:43] <orphennui> hello
[01:44] <lupine_85> Homer: they're discs of glass covered in magnetic dust spinning at 7200rpm
[01:44] <lupine_85> they're bound to be a bit fragile
[01:44] <zenwhen-lt> tru
[01:44] <Amaranth> Homer: You try spinning a 1/2 pound piece of metal at 7500 rpm and floating a rod 1cm above it without having something go wrong :P
[01:44] <LjL> 1cm?
[01:44] <mipstien> smaller than a cM
[01:44] <mipstien> cm*
[01:44] <Amaranth> LjL: Probably less
[01:44] <FlaX> !evms
[01:44] <Amaranth> Just a random toss
[01:44] <kitche> jerrcs: well if they are then it's probably a pam issue I usually do a reinstall to fix pam since it's a pain to fix
[01:44] <ubotu> evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is standard. Version 2.5.4-5ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 82 kB, installed size 292 kB
[01:44] <Homer> I think it's because I mounted the HDD in my laptop without a ba
[01:44] <orphennui> someone is reporting that Gimmie is not working with Ubuntu for some reason, and was told in here that it needs some fixing.  Can anyone point me to a bug about this, or explain it a little?
[01:44] <Homer> bay
[01:44] <Homer> so it's flopping around
[01:44] <jerrcs> kitche: reinstalling is not an option, sorry...
[01:44] <lupine_85> heh
[01:45] <lupine_85> that's not good for it, no...
[01:45] <Amaranth> Homer: Oh man
[01:45] <zenwhen-lt> hey Amaranth; have you configured your ubuntu install so that you dont have to type your keyring pass each time you get into gnome for network manager?
[01:45] <Amaranth> Homer: Moving a HD at all while it's reading/writing can be fatal
[01:45] <LjL> wikipedia:  The hard disk's read-write heads fly on an air bearing which is a cushion of air only nanometers above the disk surface.
[01:45] <Amaranth> zenwhen-lt: I did once, it broke in edgy
[01:45] <zenwhen-lt> its pretty sweet
[01:45] <zenwhen-lt> I hate authenticating twice
[01:45] <kitche> jerrcs: well probably have to start reading about pam then since most people don't like messing with it
[01:45] <Homer> Amaranth: that is suprising on a laptop hdd
[01:46] <mipstien> are there any other programs or commands besides e2fsck or fsck that can help fix errors?
[01:46] <new2linx> does anyone know how to help me with LFTP?
[01:46] <Amaranth> Homer: It shouldn't be moving a lot while it's on :P
[01:46] <Amaranth> Just on your lap/a desk
[01:46] <jerrcs> kitche: i have alot of important data that needs to be up 24/7 on my home box, including shells, irc, dns, etc
[01:46] <Amaranth> but without the mount point it's bound to bounce around in there
[01:46] <new2linx> anyone, lftp?
[01:46] <thedash> so, Ubuntu's SATA controller is not so good?
[01:47] <zenwhen-lt> yeah I dont bounce my laptop around a lot when i am using it
[01:47] <heaths> mipstien: fsck isn't fixing the errors?
[01:47] <anonobomber> new2linx: what about lftp?
[01:47] <mipstien> no
[01:47] <Homer> well broke the HDD bay
[01:47] <mipstien> heaths: no
[01:47] <Homer> I broke it
[01:47] <new2linx> anonobomber, i can't seem to connect to my xbox?
[01:47] <Amaranth> Homer: Time to get a new one. :)
[01:47] <Homer> and my laptop manufacturer doesn't want to send me a new one
[01:47] <Homer> it's properitary(tm)
[01:47] <zenwhen-lt> Homer, ebay
[01:47] <Homer> hmm
[01:48] <zenwhen-lt> itll be like ten buck
[01:48] <anonobomber> new2linx: you sure you're using the right ip address and you have to modify your xbox to get ftp to it working
[01:48] <Amaranth> Homer: You'll have to pay them money for something you broke while doing user servicing.
[01:48] <zenwhen-lt> s
[01:48] <kitche> jerrcs yes I know so start reading about pam
[01:48] <eBs|Jack> has anyone ever successfully booted and installed with a usbstick
[01:48] <jerrcs> kitche: infact, it wasnt that. a simple chmod +s /usr/bin/passwd fixed it.
[01:48] <new2linx> i am typing in lftp, then open -u xbox,xbox <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:48] <mipstien> heaths: it says that it fixed them and i can rerun it immediatly and it doesn't find anymore errors, but after i reboot outa my live cd and restart my root install it says there are more errors
[01:48] <Homer> ok well I'm going to run fsck on this shit
[01:48] <jerrcs> lol
[01:48] <Amaranth> eBs|Jack: Only a minimal install.
[01:48] <lupine_85> get a backup first
[01:48] <Homer> there is nothing to backup
[01:48] <lupine_85> seriously get a backup
[01:48] <new2linx> anonobomber, yes, in know that. I can ftp into it with gftp just fine. so why can'rt lftp workl?
[01:48] <Amaranth> eBs|Jack: No X, no GNOME, just a terminal, a text editor, and apt-get
[01:49] <Homer> just an almost stock linux install
[01:49] <new2linx> anonobomber, gftp sucks, it keeps connecting fine, showing me the folders but as soon as I try to transfer anything it says it can't connect to port 421 or some shit!
[01:49] <eBs|Jack> Amaranth: can you assist me via Private messages?
[01:49] <anonobomber> new2linx: have you tried konqueror?
[01:49] <Amaranth> eBs|Jack: I've never done it
[01:49] <bamib> k3b error Failed to change write speed: 5540->11080 anyone know how to fix?
[01:50] <Amaranth> eBs|Jack: I've just heard people talking about doing it.
[01:50] <Amaranth> !usbstick
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbstick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <Amaranth> !usb
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <Homer> the last time my HDD died I got no warning
[01:50] <Amaranth> grr
[01:50] <thoreauputic> new2linx: try "Connect to server" - nautilus does ftp too
[01:50] <kothz> !bcm43xx
[01:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:50] <Homer> is that normal?
[01:50] <new2linx> don't want to install kde on gnome, how much crap will it bring with it if I do?
[01:50] <bamib> because nobody knows crap in #kubuntu
[01:50] <Amaranth> bamib: Sounds like cdrecord doesn't like you.
[01:51] <anonobomber> new2linx: read the lftp tutorial on the lftp website
[01:51] <new2linx> thoreauputic, oh yeah. by the way. i found an awesome python built program that extracted my iso into a folder
[01:51] <Amaranth> bamib: It's a very vague problem.
[01:51] <bamib> it's when i burn an dvd iso
[01:51] <mipstien> does anyone know of another disk checker besides e2fsck or fsck?
[01:51] <new2linx> anonobomber, i am typing in exactly what that site says to?
[01:51] <kothz> homer: hard drives fail all the time.  if you get past the first couple months with a new HD, enjoy it for a while, but the natural state of all drives is, well, dead. :)
[01:51] <thoreauputic> new2linx: oh that's good - what is it called?
[01:51] <thedash> Ubuntu's SATA controller is not so good?
[01:51] <Amaranth> bamib: Use nautilus
[01:51] <bamib> it will always burn cd isos
[01:51] <lupine_85> Quantum Fireballs rocked
[01:51] <Amaranth> lupine_85: Seagate > *
[01:51] <lupine_85> I had two, and they both lasted 7 years +
[01:51] <bamib> I have but it would do anything
[01:51] <lupine_85> Quantum > *
[01:52] <thedash> I have a Seagate, and I have problems
[01:52] <bamib> and thank you Amaranth for helping me out
[01:52] <lupine_85> Quantum got bought out by <someone> though :(
[01:52] <new2linx> thoreauputic, gxiso. it also has an option to ftp the contents right to the xbox but it said it could'nt create the folder? so I am trying to ftp the contents mysekf
[01:52] <Amaranth> lupine_85: I once had a seagate get frozen in a solid block of ice, thaw out, and work.
[01:52] <thedash> I have a Seagate now, and it doesn't work!
[01:52] <Amaranth> lupine_85: Of course it failed about a day after I made a backup of it's contents.
[01:52] <kothz> yeah, maxtor bought quantum.
[01:52] <thedash> stoopid Ubuntu SATA controllers
[01:52] <heaths> thedash: try freezing it in a block of ice
[01:52] <lupine_85> once I fed my fireball through a shark and it came out the other end untouched
[01:53] <bamib> oh and by the way i'm using kubuntu so i think that might also be the prob.
[01:53] <Amaranth> lupine_85: haha
[01:53] <bamib> some way some how
[01:53] <lupine_85> pus it's such a cool name
[01:53] <lupine_85> plus*
[01:53] <thoreauputic> new2linx: If you are "new to linux" I think lftp has too steep a learning curve - I would try  nautilus first as I said
[01:53] <stu_> can I get my system to re-process fstab?
[01:53] <lupine_85> I don't know what maxtor did with that expertise
[01:53] <Amaranth> bamib: Well, almost everyone here uses Ubuntu so you're not likely to find someone who knows your software.
[01:53] <stu_> added a mount, wanna test it
[01:53] <kothz> stu: mount -a
[01:53] <bruenig> stu_, sudo mount -a
[01:53] <stu_> ta
[01:53] <bamib> indeed not
[01:53] <bruenig> or maybe no mount
[01:54] <bruenig> or maybe no sudo*
[01:54] <Amaranth> bamib: If you switch to Ubuntu we might be able to help. ;)
[01:54] <kothz> sigh.  I keep forgetting the sudo... you're probably right depending on the mount options
[01:54] <bamib> I was using it, but then it started to screw up
[01:54] <mipstien> if e2fsck does not fix my errors on my partition what should i do?
[01:54] <stu_> smb connection failed, wheres the log?
[01:55] <Buglouse> is Nautilus the most popular file browser?  What are some other popular ones? and does anyone know of some File Managers? (Ubuntu Drapper)
[01:55] <bamib> like the destop and the toolbar has blury and stuff would stay on there that wasn't running
[01:55] <kothz> try mounting it manually first, stu ... get the mount options ironed out then stick it in your fstab
[01:55] <lupine_85> Amaranth: he got banned from #kubuntu :)
[01:55] <EvanIsaac> hey guys, i just started using linux and i'm trying to get my W111T netgear USB adapter to work using ndiswrapper
[01:55] <EvanIsaac> here is the information that i think will be important
[01:55] <EvanIsaac> Card: NETGEAR WG111T
[01:55] <EvanIsaac>     * Chipset: Atheros USB
[01:55] <EvanIsaac>     * encryption: WPA-PSK (TKIP)
[01:55] <EvanIsaac>     * usbid: 1385:4250
[01:55] <EvanIsaac>     * Driver: Netgear windows driver Version: 21/06/2005, 1.2 from http://www.netgear.de/download/WG111T/WG111T_GRV1.2.zip
[01:55] <LjL> !paste
[01:55] <EvanIsaac>     * Other: This driver comes with two sets of .inf and .sys files: athfmwdl and wg111t. Both of these must be installed with their *.inf files. After that, with version 1.7rc1, ndiswrapper can be used as in the case of other drivers; earlier versions of ndiswrapper required load_fw_ar5523 program to be run, but it is not needed anymore. Suspend/resume also works now.
[01:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:55] <Homer> Buglouse: stick with Nautilus imo :)
[01:56] <Buglouse> Homer: what can I use for a mass file renamer?
[01:56] <Homer> bash script I guess
[01:56] <bruenig> Buglouse, you can use the terminal
[01:56] <EvanIsaac> could somebody please walk me through doing this? I don't know a thing
[01:56] <LjL> Buglouse: "rename" possibly
[01:56] <kitche> EvanIsaac: use madwifi instead might be easier
[01:56] <mipstien> if e2fsck does not fix my errors on my partition what should i do?
[01:56] <EvanIsaac> madwifi?
[01:56] <lupine_85> kitche: I don't think the madwifi drivers support usb :(
[01:56] <new2linx> thoreauputic, it says I don't have permission to view the contents. and yes, I entered the correct password and username?
[01:56] <EvanIsaac> aw man
[01:57] <Amaranth> eBs|Jack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:57] <EvanIsaac> well do you guys have any idea what the stuff i posted means?
[01:57] <SeanTater> Does anyone have a wireless G card that works easily with Linux, something you'd recommend?
[01:57] <LjL> Buglouse: i can't find the package it's in, though... perhaps it's there by default
[01:57] <LjL> (weird)
[01:57] <lupine_85> there is ath_pci.ko but not ath_isb.ko
[01:57] <stu_> can anyone tell me how to make my middle button act a scroll toggle? like in windows?
[01:57] <lupine_85> SeanTater: anything ralink
[01:57] <thoreauputic> new2linx: "it" meaning what?
[01:57] <thoreauputic> new2linx: and what direcory ?
[01:57] <lupine_85> Particularly rt2500 and rt2570
[01:57] <PoPpiLLs> I have Breezy installed as a server if I upgrade it to dapper will i have alot of problems ?
[01:58] <pwk> Hello
[01:58] <thoreauputic> new2linx: directory *
[01:58] <lupine_85> although rt61 and rt73 are supppported in edgy OOTB
[01:58] <lupine_85> anything Atheros PCI is also good, as are ZyDAS cards
[01:58] <EvanIsaac> any volunteers willing to help me using ndiswrapper?
[01:58] <mipstien> if e2fsck does not fix my errors on my partition what should i do?
[01:59] <lupine_85> panic?
[01:59] <mipstien> sounds good
[01:59] <pwk> can anybody tell me where i can find a list of what software works in ubuntu.. like in wine ?
[01:59] <mipstien> *throws arms up and screams*
[01:59] <lupine_85> EvanIsaac: it's pretty easy. there are walkthroughs on the wiki and forums
[01:59] <lupine_85> !wifi
[01:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:59] <bruenig> pwk, one the wine site
[01:59] <new2linx> thoreauputic, nautilus
[01:59] <mipstien> www.winehq.com
[01:59] <lupine_85> now /me must get in the bath
[01:59] <EvanIsaac> well i checked the ndiswrapper wiki and didn't understand a thing
[01:59] <mipstien> appdb.winehq.com to be more precise
[01:59] <pwk> will it take less resources then windows,, and will i need av ?
[01:59] <kothz> mipstien: how important was the data on the drive that failed?
[02:00] <thoreauputic> new2linx: what is it telling you you don't have permission to access?
[02:00] <mipstien> kothz: its not that the data is important, cause i have now backed it up, but that i don't wanna have to reconfigure everything... some important stuff but its fixxed.
[02:00] <Homer> so when is edgy eft coming out?
[02:00] <LjL> !edgy
[02:00] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:00] <mipstien> beta was released today
[02:00] <bruenig> october 26 I think
[02:00] <kintaro0e> hi guys..how to update the cached records of the bind servers.for example: foo.com[which is from the internet]  change its ip. but the previous ip of the foo.com is cached in my dns server. how to update it to reflect the correct ip?
[02:01] <PoPpiLLs> any body got a good backup solution to reccomend im using mondorescue now
[02:01] <bruenig> !backup
[02:01] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[02:01] <LjL> kintaro0e: your DNS server is usually at the ISP side, and you can't do anything to update it... DNS entries usually get refreshed every 2 days
[02:01] <PoPpiLLs> i want to backup my server before i update it to dapper
[02:01] <mipstien> Another thing... Anybody know if you backup all your files on a drive and copy them into a fresh install should it keep everything intact like before it was copied
[02:01] <new2linx> thoreauputic, the ftp server
[02:02] <stu_> why has that question been ingored all day, someone must the middle button as a scroll toggle??
[02:02] <Neo8750> LjL: there no way to update it manually?
[02:02] <kintaro0e> LjL: i have my own internal dns server
[02:02] <Homer> somone invent a cheap solid state technology that doesn't have the rate of failure of HDDs
[02:02] <levander> Has anyone gotten subversion to work with emacs' vc mode?
[02:02] <Homer> please :)
[02:02] <bruenig> mipstien, in theory
[02:02] <levander> under ubuntu
[02:02] <bruenig> that is what one of those backups tells you to do, the first link I believe
[02:02] <levander> It seems vc-svn.el isn't available in any package.
[02:02] <mipstien> bruenig: i can post the command i used to copy if that would help you decide
[02:02] <Diego> Asians in your basement, of course.
[02:02] <PoPpiLLs> so breezy to dapper should be a piece of cake ?
[02:02] <thoreauputic> new2linx: did you specify a port? is the server running? Usually a refusal means the server is not running or firewalled etc
[02:02] <Max_-> Just put a DVD in, Totem started but .. it can't read... something is missing, what is it??
[02:02] <czer323> ANyone else having extremely long timeouts for archive.ubuntu.com?
[02:02] <bruenig> mipstein, this here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[02:02] <EvanIsaac> there isn't an FAQ for my adapter
[02:03] <mipstien> yeh that is what i used
[02:03] <rendi> help my apache don't wanna start
[02:03] <LjL> Neo8750, kintaro0e: yes, you can update it manually, *if* you have access to the server... if you have your own, well, it depends on which server software you're using... but what about just restarting it?  like in "sudo /etc/init.d/mydnsserver-whateveritis restart"
[02:03] <bruenig> well if it says it does and is on there without much complaint, it can be assumed that it works
[02:03] <rendi> hgelloo
[02:03] <rendi> help my apache don't wanna start
[02:03] <jrib> rendi: how did you install it?
[02:03] <new2linx> thoreauputic, the server is running, i can log into it using gftp. i just can;t transfer anythign cause gftp sucks my asshole.
[02:03] <stu_> rendi: do you think this is a psychic channell?
[02:03] <Neo8750> LjL: the reason i asked was because i figured a simple cron job could do the updates[
[02:04] <kothz> i'm going to procrastinate making this bcm43xx card work natively by making popcorn. :)
[02:04] <Neo8750> but if it wasn't [possible to do manually i was just going to stay quiet and smile
[02:04] <mipstien> bruenig: my only concern was that it would not readd my panels correctly and my themes
[02:04] <thoreauputic> new2linx: watch the language or you will be out of here in a flash
[02:04] <thoreauputic> !language
[02:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:04] <kintaro0e> LjL: yes..i have access on my server..because this is a master server for my internal[network] . so how to update the cached records?
[02:04] <bruenig> mipstien, those panels and themes are in those files somewhere
[02:04] <kintaro0e> without restarting it
[02:04] <Homer> how can my HDD be in the verge of destruction and still transfer gigabytes of data
[02:04] <kintaro0e> ?
[02:04] <shad0w1e> how do I add a username (for a process) that cant actually log into the machine?
[02:04] <kothz> flash doesn't work well.  Any disappearance probably won't have any sound :)
[02:04] <bruenig> everything is dictated by a file
[02:04] <LjL> Neo8750: well, i don't think a cron job would be necessary, because usually the server software itself updates the records every once in a while... which, normally, is 2 days, but i suppose that can be changed in most software
[02:04] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: ty for reminding me i have to install flash :)
[02:05] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: heh
[02:05] <kothz> Homer: ever heard of the phrase 'going nowhere fast'? :)
[02:05] <LjL> kintaro0e, it depends on which server you're using. i'm using a simple server called dnsmasq, and to clear the cache i only need to restart it... if you're using bind9, or something else, i wouldn't know the specifics
[02:05] <mipstien> bruenig: i copied everything except dev, media, proc, lost+found, mnt, and sys
[02:06] <Neo8750> LjL: i was going off he read all the config files and such and has no way to do that (yeah it was dumb but i like to belive everyone rtfm)
[02:06] <bruenig> mipstien, ok, well looks good. that is what it tells you to do
[02:06] <kintaro0e> LjL: ah..i see.use bind9
[02:06] <Dekkard> can one really add mp3 support to edgy?
[02:06] <Dekkard> ive installed every lib i can think of
[02:06] <bruenig> !mp3
[02:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:07] <mipstien> bruenig: that would still keep all my config files intact, i was worried about proc, and sys
[02:07] <LjL> kintaro0e: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.protocols.dns.bind/browse_thread/thread/a2a820843e074eb2/62d8a755643007de?lnk=st&q=bind9+manually+update+records&rnum=4&hl=en#62d8a755643007de
[02:07] <new2linx> thoreauputic,  are you serious?
[02:07] <bruenig> proc and sys are created on boot up and don't hold anything of "real use" if I may say that
[02:07] <thoreauputic> new2linx: we have a Code of Conduct
[02:07] <mipstien> ok thank you, i just didn't wanna have any real problems :)
[02:07] <thoreauputic> !CoC
[02:07] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:07] <mipstien> bruenig one last question
[02:07] <Gobbi> Ol
[02:07] <LjL> !es
[02:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:08] <kintaro0e> LjL: thanks
[02:08] <czer323> Can someone confirm that archive.ubuntu.com is down or not responding?  apt-get and ping are both timing out for me.
[02:08] <LjL> czer323: it pings for me
[02:08] <thoreauputic> new2linx: some people are more easily offended than others - this channel is international and multicutural
[02:08] <mipstien> bruenig: if i format my drive through a live cd and resize it and then copy the files over, technically all i should have to do it mkdir those directories and i shoudl be able to reboot into  it no problem's? in theory
[02:08] <jrib> czer323: works fine here as well
[02:08] <LjL> czer323: resolves to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:08] <^Down> When I play DVD's they skip really bad, is there a way to stop this?
[02:08] <pwk> i see wine works with alot of prgrams
[02:08] <bruenig> czer323, when i go to http://archive.ubuntu.com/, I get a tree
[02:09] <^Down> Someone told me how before, but I can't remember the command line
[02:09] <new2linx> thoreauputic,  ok-dowk
[02:09] <pwk> but, dwhats its security like, and system responsiveness ?
[02:09] <vince790> hello all
[02:09] <LjL> pwk: it's not magic, that's for sure. but it does allow running a good deal of Windows programs without actually having Windows
[02:09] <new2linx> thoreauputic,  oops, i meant to write okee  dokee but I had a brain fart
[02:09] <bruenig> mispstien yep, should all work. There would be no difference between what you have now and what you had then. Because all of what is seen or represented or whatever on your computer is dictated by those files. Identical files create identical system
[02:09] <jrib> ^Down: have you enabled dma?
[02:09] <vince790> was wondering if anyone has been able to install ubuntu on an ibm 380d
[02:09] <^Down> I don't really know
[02:09] <czer323> thanks jrib, LjL, ^Down>  Unfortunately it's still not working for me.  I'll cycle power to the network and try again.  Thanks again guys.
[02:10] <mipstien> pwk: i play quite a lot of windows games through wine and have used it for many other windows applications
[02:10] <thoreauputic> new2linx: umm... you just had another one - i suggesttaking the foot out of your mouth
[02:10] <LjL> pwk: when talking about security, one must always be cautious... but the common knowledge is that very few viruses or other malicious stuff has a real chance to do any harm through wine
[02:10] <jrib> ubotu: tell ^Down about dma
[02:10] <mipstien> bruenig, thank you so much, if i coudl hug you i would :P
[02:10] <new2linx> thoreauputic, dude!!! I am sorry but FART is NOT  a swear!!!!!
[02:10] <LjL> pwk: performance can be even better than native Windows sometimes. although there is no decent 3D support yet, if that's what you're thinking about (but you might want to read about Cedega for that)
[02:10] <Max_-> Just put a DVD in, Totem started but .. it can't read... something is missing, what is it??
[02:10] <pwk> so using wine, its defeating the security purpose >?
[02:10] <bruenig> good thing you can't...
[02:11] <LjL> pwk: hm? don't get you
[02:11] <bruenig> pwk, why do you want to use wine so much
[02:11] <bruenig> what programs do you need
[02:11] <thoreauputic> new2linx: arguing with Ops is never a good idea, you know
[02:11] <mipstien> pwk, i am using wine to play world of warcraft and wc3 and other games and i get over 100fps in most games
[02:11] <rubso> hey guys, Adobe has released a minor update for Flash 7 on Linux, how can i upgrade my older version?
[02:11] <pwk> i thoguht u where saying with wine windows viruses can come in
[02:11] <Vekemi> How would I find out what kind of modem I'm running so I can download the appropriate drivers for it?
[02:11] <^Down> Thanks jrib
[02:11] <Neo8750> mipstien: you get steam to work/
[02:11] <new2linx> i am not arguing with you. i am simply pointing out a FACT.
[02:12] <mipstien> neo8750, yes i do
[02:12] <DarkMageZ> rubso, there's a newer version of the package available in the backports multiverse repo
[02:12] <pwk> and my games with my geforce 6800 card will run like windows ?
[02:12] <thoreauputic> new2linx: stop it. My patinece is wearing out
[02:12] <bruenig> pwk, I suppose they could corrupt your little windows compatibility layer, but it shouldn't affect any of your linux stuff. At the very worse,  you might have to delete your wine directory
[02:12] <mipstien> pwk, yes
[02:12] <thoreauputic> *patience
[02:12] <Neo8750> mipstien: and you use regular wine and not winex or something right?
[02:12] <rubso> k thanks
[02:12] <mipstien> neo8750, yes i use winehq.com
[02:12] <pwk> ok
[02:12] <new2linx> thoreauputic, thank you for trying to help me earlier. Get off your power trip dude.
[02:12] <pwk> thxs
[02:12] <vince790> max you need libdvdccs
[02:13] <Neo8750> mipstien: well because of you i'm restarting an old project
[02:13] <kothz> ok, reinstalling dapper.  wish me luck with my bcm43xx :)
[02:13] <pwk> and if i get this od rpgram thats for windows, it has a chance of running in windows ?
[02:13] <mipstien> neo8750, i copied my steam folder from my windows install and made sure i copied also my font files form windows into the wine fonts folder and it works without any trouble
[02:13] <thoreauputic> new2linx: it isn't a power trip - we have to keep a lid on vulgarity and stuff - as I said, consider the code of conduct
[02:13] <LjL> thoreauputic: well, i'll do it anyway. wikipedia says, "The word is generally considered to be mildly offensive and unsuitable for formal settings by modern English speakers, though more conservative locales may consider the word to be vulgar." -- sounds to me like a all-around innocent word :)
[02:13] <thoreauputic> LjL: *sigh*
[02:13] <superkirbyartis1> I need help.  Authentication works with pon, but internet does not.
[02:14] <mipstien> neo8750, only problem i ran into was updating steam from base .exe installer, you have to run a particular command to make it pass up the 27% bug
[02:14] <thoreauputic> LjL: I consider it so - in some countries they don't
[02:14] <Neo8750> mipstien: got ya
[02:14] <new2linx> can you please point out to me where I can read the code of conduct and where it states that fart is a swear word. i think you are gong a little over board
[02:14] <Neo8750> well i'm off
[02:14] <mipstien> ill give you the page in a second hold on
[02:14] <thoreauputic> LjL: you notice I haven't banned or kicked anyone over thia
[02:14] <thoreauputic> *this
[02:14] <mipstien> neo8750 wait just one moment
[02:14] <Neo-Away> ?
[02:14] <mipstien> ill give you the steam page
[02:15] <DarkMageZ> !coc
[02:15] <superkirbyartis1> Internet problems.  Authentication with pon works, but internet does not.
[02:15] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:15] <superkirbyartis1> !the ubuntu code of conduct?
[02:15] <mipstien> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[02:15] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[02:15] <mipstien> neo8750 http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[02:15] <Neo-Away> mipstien: k thanks
[02:15] <mipstien> np
[02:15] <superkirbyartis1> !nevermind
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nevermind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <bruenig> vulgarity itself is completely arbitrary and has no intrinsic reason for why it is vulgar except that people of a region have decided that it is. Seems hard to impose something like this on a channel that in theory could be hosting people from every country and every culture.
[02:15] <heaths> new2linx: if you aren't contributing  you are detracting....
[02:16] <mipstien> bruenig thank you again !
[02:16] <new2linx> thoreauputic, thank you. i'll read it over. thanks again for trying to help me earlier
[02:16] <Vekemi> :\
[02:16] <thoreauputic> General Notice: what you or i consider harmless is seen as rude in some cultures. Please read the Code of Conduct
[02:16] <thoreauputic> new2linx: you're welcome
[02:16] <new2linx> heaths
[02:16] <new2linx> heaths your right. I am outta here
[02:17] <Vekemi> How do I find what kind of modem I'm running (on Windows or Ubuntu, doesn't matter) so I can download the appropriate drivers for it? Right now when I sudo wvdialconf /etc/wtvdial.conf, it doesn't show anything.
[02:18] <jrib> ubotu: tell Vekemi about dialup
[02:18] <Astray> Vekemi, In windows press windows key + pause/break and cick hardware then device manager
[02:18] <pwk> can anybody tell me where i can find a guide to starting to use ubntu.. like the basics ?
[02:18] <rendi> hello
[02:18] <czer323_> Amazing, I can go everywhere on the internet except for archive.ubuntu.com.  And i know other people can reach it, so it's just me.  Very weird.
[02:19] <bruenig> pwk, ubuntu or linux
[02:19] <rendi> i have problem with ubuntu
[02:19] <bruenig> ?
[02:19] <rendi> can help
[02:19] <jrib> pwk: system > help  (or help.ubuntu.com)
[02:19] <Astray> czer323_, Maybe your DNS is having problems ;.;
[02:19] <pwk> ubntu
[02:19] <rendi> i'm paste here http://pastebin.ca/185489
[02:19] <btdown> the beta's out...im sure they are all getting hit hard
[02:19] <gnomefreak> !mirrors > czer323_
[02:19] <Astray> Is there a way I can make xchat open links in firefox instead of mozilla?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> btdown: it is
[02:19] <jrib> Astray: it is in the xchat settings I believe, not sure where
[02:20] <eurytus> Is it possible to read/write to ext3 partitions from windows?
[02:20] <bruenig> Astray, I wonder the same, mine use to upen in swiftfox but now it opens in opera
[02:20] <Max_-> Just put a DVD in, Totem started but .. it can't read... what is missing??
[02:20] <czer323_> Astray> if i just goto the main ip: <IP_ADDRESS>, it still doesn't work, therefore... not a dns issue.
[02:20] <rendi> hello sir
[02:20] <Vekemi> Also, when I update the kernel, it shows the updated kernel as a seperate boot on GRUB. How do I make it so it only shows my most recent updated kernel?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> Max_-: the codecs for dvds?
[02:20] <jrib> eurytus: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[02:21] <Astray> ooh I found it
[02:21] <Astray> ;.;
[02:21] <superkirbyartis1> I have problems with ppp.
[02:22] <kitche> Vekemi: you have to edit menu.lst it's in /boot/grub/
[02:22] <mehigh> where can i find the codex for playing wmv?
[02:22] <jrib> ubotu: tell mehigh about wmv
[02:22] <Max_-> gnomefreak, looks like they're missing, yes.. is there a package for it, or something?
[02:22] <vince790> Max_- you need to download libdvdccs
[02:22] <gnomefreak> !restricted > Max_-
[02:22] <pwk> can i pm someone my specs to check if ubuntu would run fine ?
[02:22] <Max_-> vince790,  thanks!!
[02:22] <Vekemi> Alright, thanks kitche.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> Max_-: read your pm from ubotu
[02:22] <vince790> no problem max
[02:22] <czer323_> gnomefreak> do you know if there are any mirror repositories?  Cause I was just tryign to apt-get upgrade.
[02:23] <shwag> im not seeing mod_env in the repositories
[02:23] <gnomefreak> czer323_: i just gave you a list of them
[02:23] <gnomefreak> Max_-: your gonna need more than just that
[02:23] <pwk> ok
[02:23] <pwk> i'll post here
[02:24] <btdown> !upgrading
[02:24] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:24] <Vekemi> Also, again (sorry for the huge amounts of questions, I just installed Dapper [my first linux distro]  3 days ago), when I sudo apt-get install kernel-headers, it only gives me a list of kernels that have different numbers than what's shown in /lib/modules
[02:24] <pwk> p4 with ht @ 3.4ghz 1gb ram 2x 120gb hard drive nvidia 6800 256mb video card sound blaster 32 bit audio card
[02:24] <Vekemi> How do I make it show the kernel drivers in /lib/modules?
[02:25] <jrib> pwk: you will run ubuntu fine
[02:25] <pwk> would my pc run ubuntu ?
[02:25] <pwk> ok
[02:25] <jrib> more than fine
[02:25] <pwk> i really want to remove windows vista dn switch
[02:25] <vince790> Max_- you also need the win32 codecs
[02:25] <pwk> but application compatiblity is whats shutting me down
[02:25] <vince790> sorry bout the delay
[02:26] <lostinc> Is there a way to archive downloaded synaptic packages to a removable harddrive and then reinstall Ubuntu  and copy those packages back so that I wont have to redownload them?
[02:26] <Max_-> vince790, okay...  win32 codecs...   I'm actually trying to install Gxine...
[02:26] <EvanIsaac> can somebody please help me get my Netgear W111T adapter working
[02:26] <gnomefreak> pwk: i have a pc with dapper on it its a p2 450mhz 512mb ram nvidia 5200 and a 20 gig hd it runs fine (better than windows ever ran on that pc)
[02:26] <gnomefreak> Max_-: libdvdread
[02:27] <EvanIsaac> and please don't link me to a howto, i need more detailed instructions than that
[02:27] <pwk> will ubuntu be hard to leanr?
[02:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> pwk, the fact that i can double click an .exe file in linux and have it run without using virtualization isn't compatable enough? :P
[02:27] <vince790> gnomefreak..........is that required for gnome use?
[02:27] <mlowe> <<< beta alternative install just worked for me ;) !!
[02:27] <gnomefreak> pwk: was windows hard to learn in the 3 years it took you to learn it?
[02:27] <SeanTater> pwk: no
[02:27] <vince790> as kde......xine it isnt required
[02:27] <cafuego> EvanIsaac: Check wiki.ubuntu.com; search for WG111T.
[02:27] <gnomefreak> vince790: it is required for dvd playing
[02:27] <bruenig> lostinc, they are probably in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:28] <EvanIsaac> And I quote myself by saying, "please don't link me to a howto, i need more detailed instructions than that"
[02:28] <czer323_> gnomefreak> thanks for the list.  I had only clicked ont eh first link. ;)  Didn't see the second one til after i asked again.
[02:28] <gnomefreak> pwk: if you read and want to learn yes ubuntu is very easy to learn
[02:28] <vince790> :S maybe time to switch ubuntus gnome to a kde ;)
[02:28] <SeanTater> pwk: as long as you get past easyubuntu, (multimedia codec installation assistant), it's all downhill from there
[02:28] <gnomefreak> vince790: why not use both
[02:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> vince790, kubuntu ?
[02:28] <Vekemi> How do I download the kernel-headers that match what's in /lib/modules versus the headers that it automatically gives me when I sudo apt-get install kernel-headers
[02:28] <smax> hi guys
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Vekemi: what kernel do you have?
[02:28] <shwag> whats the deal with  mod_env ??
[02:29] <bruenig> kde, good thing they spent so much time on the bouncing icon when things load because loading is all you get to watch
[02:29] <pwk> so ubnutu would run windows apps.. without wine ?
[02:29] <smax> has anyone ever deployed a tftp server?  the web is full of shit.
[02:29] <superkirbyartis1> PPP problem.
[02:29] <lostinc> bruenig: if I save that folder and copy it back after the fact will synaptic pick up on it?
[02:29] <shwag> donde
[02:29] <gnomefreak> pwk: no
[02:29] <superkirbyartis1> Help please.
[02:29] <SeanTater> smax: !language
[02:29] <gnomefreak> pwk: ubuntu has apps that take place of windows apps
[02:29] <Vekemi> It says "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386"
[02:29] <rgg> hey,is there any msn client with "audio conversation" support?
[02:29] <pwk> ok
[02:29] <pwk> anybody here get limewire to run in ubntu?
[02:29] <bruenig> lostinc, you can just sudo dpkg -i those packages in there
[02:29] <SeanTater> smax: I'm 99.999998% sure many have done it before
[02:29] <kothz> rgg: i think amsn has that?
[02:29] <lostinc> I see bruenig
[02:29] <rgg> kothz: i don't think so
[02:29] <EvanIsaac> could somebody please help me get my Netgear W111T USB adapter working, the howto's and FAQ's aren't helping me, i just got ubuntu
[02:29] <lostinc> Thanks! :) Time saved
[02:30] <rgg> kothz: i'm on amsn now,i can't find that "option"
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Vekemi: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386  but iirc the kernel for dapper is -27 now
[02:30] <Vekemi> Oh yeah.
[02:30] <Vekemi> It's 2.6.15-27
[02:30] <czer323_> gnomefreak> do you know if these servers are all up-to-date?  I'm trying to update to the beta edgy on a test machine.
[02:30] <Vekemi> I forgot that I updated it this morning.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Vekemi: uname -r will tell you what kernel you are running
[02:30] <gnomefreak> czer323_: no i dont
[02:30] <czer323_> gnomefreak> thanks anyway
[02:30] <btdown> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:30] <gnomefreak> czer323_: i dont ever use mirrors unless i have to
[02:30] <Vekemi> Alright.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> btdown: yes but people dont understand that all the time
[02:31] <Vekemi> Where would I find drivers for a dialup modem, too?
[02:31] <SeanTater> gnomefreak: why not mirrors
[02:31] <SeanTater> mirrors++
[02:31] <gnomefreak> SeanTater: why mirrors?
[02:31] <Vekemi> Nevermind.
[02:31] <Vekemi> Found it.
[02:31] <btdown> gnomefreak: gotchu man... ;()
[02:31] <unics> could someone tell me if I am allowed to traslate the Ubuntu Desktop guide an publish it on my web site ?
[02:31] <EvanIsaac> so nobody here can decipher an FAQ to tell me in plain newbish how to get my Netgear W111T adapter working
[02:31] <gnomefreak> SeanTater: repos work fine here no need to use mirrors
[02:31] <SeanTater> gnomefreak: download from ubuntu.com _> 114 Kb/s download from osuosl.org -> 650 Kb/s
[02:32] <bruenig> unics, it is probably already available in that language
[02:32] <rgg> so,is there any msn client with audio support for ubuntu?
[02:32] <czer323_> SeanTater> is that mirror up to date? ;)
[02:32] <vince790> msn client with audio support for linux?
[02:32] <czer323_> seanTater> if so, i'll use it. ;)
[02:32] <vince790> :P
[02:32] <gnomefreak> SeanTater: my net connection is so slow it wouldnt make a difference here its dsl lite
[02:32] <SeanTater> czer323_: I've never known it to be anything else
[02:32] <kitche> EvanIsaac: i m in class right now or else I would help you out
[02:32] <vince790> let me know if you find that one rgg :)
[02:32] <bruenig> unics, but I would assume you could do that. The only thing they restrict from what I understand is logos and such
[02:32] <SeanTater> gnomefreak: Cable modem here
[02:32] <Vekemi> I looked http://www.motorola.com/softmodem/driver.htm <-- here to see if there were any drivers for my Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem card, but there were only ones for RedHat and Mandrake...
[02:32] <Vekemi> :x
[02:32] <SeanTater> czer323_: where do you live?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[02:33] <SeanTater> czer323_: geographical location makes a huge difference
[02:33] <czer323_> SeanTater> Ohio, USA
[02:33] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...does anyone know how to install synaptec in ubuntu? apt-get can't seem to locate it
[02:33] <EvanIsaac> kitche: how long until your class gets out?
[02:33] <SeanTater> czer323_: osuosl is great then, they have a mirror in chicago
[02:33] <rgg> vince790: ok,what is going to be your address in 2010?that way i can send you a letter when i find it :P
[02:33] <kitche> umm about an hour or so
[02:33] <Gevaudan82> err, sorry, i meant synaptec in kubuntu
[02:33] <mytruehero> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but it hangs on "Uncompressing kernel... booting linux, ok".  I got it to enable restricted stuff, but it didn't work so I did it manually and now easyubuntu won't go away.
[02:35] <EvanIsaac> if anybody can help me getting my wifi usb adapter working they can find the information on it at ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/metawiki/index.php/list
[02:36] <EvanIsaac> it's number 20 under N
[02:36] <ubutom> Vekemi, i don` t know if this will work, but you could try and use alien to make a .deb file from the rpm`s
[02:36] <Vekemi> Okay.
[02:36] <f4t4l`> Okay, need help installing....
[02:36] <Vekemi> How would I use alien?
[02:36] <ubutom> first you install it :)
[02:36] <f4t4l`> It hangs at "Booting kernel, okay."
[02:36] <f4t4l`> and i can type and stuff.
[02:36] <f4t4l`> Like command prompt
[02:37] <shwag> when I do  apache2 -l | grep env   i see  mod_env.c   but if I   locate mod_env , even after a updatedb , i see it nowhere on my system.
[02:37] <SeanTater> f4t4l`:check the md5 of the file you downloaded
[02:37] <czer323_> SeanTater> yeah, it's not working either way.  I assume that my ISP is having some issues.  I can use most sites fine, just some others I can't.  I'll keep trying different mirrors, thanks
[02:37] <Vekemi> Where would I get it? :x Right now, the only way I can access the internet on Ubuntu is by LANning the school's network.
[02:37] <f4t4l`> SeanTater:No, i ordered the CD
[02:37] <SeanTater> czer323_: if I were you, I might whine at my ISP if half of the web won;t load for me
[02:37] <ubutom> and then you download the rpm, open a terminal, and type alien whatever.rpm, it will transform the .rpm into .deb
[02:37] <SeanTater> f4t4l`: um --
[02:38] <SeanTater> f4t4l`: dunno
[02:38] <SeanTater> f4t4l`: never had that problem
[02:38] <vince790> does anyone know a work around to get a computer to boot for install when cd cant be made primary first boot?
[02:38] <f4t4l`> hmmm
[02:38] <ubutom> well, try sudo aptitude install alien
[02:38] <czer323_> SeanTater> Yeah, I know that they'll fix it.  It's just a matter of when.  If it's too many other sites, then yeah, I will complain.  Otherwise, I'll just wait it out.  Thanks though.
[02:38] <vince790> or even a boot period?
[02:38] <SeanTater> czer323_: sorry --
[02:39] <shwag> it appears its compiled into apache2.
[02:39] <tempted> woop woops! how's everyone edgy going?
[02:39] <f4t4l`> Is there a way i could install Ubuntu other than booting and installing?
[02:39] <czer323_> Tempted> I heard edgy went beta.  I'm trying to check it out myself.
[02:40] <f4t4l`> And it says there are lots of defects, could it be my CD drive?
[02:40] <Ketsuban> In trying to set up dual-monitor I get the message "Requested Entity already in use". I noticed that if I change to the "sis" driver (from "vesa") then it seems to work, but thecolouring is iffy. Anyone able to lend a hand?
[02:40] <mytruehero> vince790: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[02:40] <Max_-> dvd:// ... if it is in  /cdrom0 .. what do I write there?
[02:40] <vince790> :( no net car mytruehero
[02:40] <vince790> card*
[02:41] <mytruehero> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but it hangs on "Uncompressing kernel... booting linux, ok". Any suggestions?
[02:41] <vince790> just got this Ancient laptop
[02:41] <f4t4l`> YES
[02:41] <f4t4l`> ME TOO
[02:41] <f4t4l`> Mytruehero
[02:41] <f4t4l`> same problem...
[02:41] <Vekemi> So, I download alien via aptitude, and then I sudo apt-dpkg blahblahblah.deb, right?
[02:41] <Volvo> BrB
[02:41] <bruenig> I tried knot 3, looked and felt pretty much the same. The fonts were awful, but I suppose they always are until you change them.
[02:41] <vince790> ive tried booting with a win98 bootdisk
[02:41] <vince790> and using loadlin
[02:41] <mytruehero> vince790: hmm. "burn" the iso to an external HD, and boot from that, perhaps? don't know if that's possible
[02:41] <vince790> to no prevail
[02:41] <heaths> is there a way to force synaptic to get apps via download?
[02:41] <heaths> keeps asking for the install CD
[02:41] <tempted> bru: i am gonna wait a week i think
[02:42] <tempted> till i try edgy...
[02:42] <f4t4l`> mytruehero?
[02:42] <f4t4l`> what comp do you have?
[02:42] <elaziz> hello, is there any one who using linux?
[02:42] <bruenig> heaths, it shouldn't do that. What app do you want.
[02:42] <mytruehero> f4t4l': er. what do you mean?
[02:42] <kothz>  !fglrx
[02:42] <vince790> ibm 380D
[02:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:42] <vince790> its a laptop
[02:42] <f4t4l`> Like, old, compaq?
[02:42] <jrib> elaziz: yes, there are many here who use linux
[02:42] <Vekemi> Anyone here ever use PengAOL?
[02:43] <mytruehero> f4t4l': new. assembled from parts
[02:43] <Ketsuban> In trying to set up dual-monitor I get the message "Requested Entity already in use". I noticed that if I change to the "sis" driver (from "vesa") then it seems to work, but thecolouring is iffy. Anyone able to lend a hand?
[02:43] <adam> i can't get easyubuntu removed from my comp. I got it to enable restricted stuff, but it didn't work so I did it manually and now easyubuntu won't go away. help plz?
[02:43] <jrib> adam: have you asked in #easyubuntu?
[02:43] <heaths> bruenig: just need 'make'
[02:43] <f4t4l`> [mytruehero] : Okay.,,,
[02:43] <bruenig> adam, you just delete it
[02:43] <elaziz> jrib: i just wanna see someone dealing with main window of irc client :) before my "enter key event" i saw many lines going and going :)
[02:43] <heaths> bruenig: vmware_tools needs it to install
[02:43] <tempted> you guys all using xchat? i kinda dred using it for some reason...
[02:43] <bruenig> heaths, open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install make
[02:44] <jrib> elaziz: oh ok
[02:44] <heaths> bruenig: same prompts me for the cd
[02:44] <elaziz> jrib: i want to select an operation system to carry on my software load, what to offer? linux stuff or macosxtiger ?
[02:44] <adam> it's in usr/lib/ it won't let me delete
[02:44] <bruenig> heaths, what about sudo apt-get update
[02:44] <jrib> elaziz: I'm not sure what you mean
[02:45] <Vekemi> jrib: elaziz - "What is better for software, Linux or Mac OS X Tiger?"
[02:45] <elaziz> Vekemi : thank you :)
[02:45] <heaths> bruenig: that runs fine
[02:46] <bruenig> Vekemi, linux
[02:46] <jpena> bueno,
[02:46] <Vekemi> bruenig : I was translating elaziz's statement. Heh.
[02:46] <elaziz> Vekemi : i don want to deal with operation system, just want to do my work :) but XGL is wonderfull :)
[02:46] <bruenig> ah
[02:46] <Vekemi> elaziz : If you don't want to deal with the OS, you're better off with Mac OS X :|
[02:47] <elaziz> Vekemi : oh ok.
[02:47] <BiGdAdDy> should i go ubuntu cd or ubuntu dvd? install
[02:47] <bruenig> BiGdadDy, cd is fine.
[02:47] <BiGdAdDy> what is the differ really?
[02:47] <cablesm102> Bigdaddy, if you have a broadband connection, cd is fine.
[02:47] <Ketsuban> In trying to set up dual-monitor I get the message "Requested Entity already in use". This is odd because I've managed to get dual-monitor working perfectly with very little effort/exit
[02:47] <Ketsuban> Ack.
[02:47] <cablesm102> The point of the DVD is that it has many packges built into the disk
[02:47] <cablesm102> so you don't have to download them
[02:48] <bruenig> if you have dsl, might as well go with the cd because you can download other packages later via apt-get
[02:48] <heaths> bruenig: i wonder if it's because i chose OEM install
[02:48] <BiGdAdDy> oic
[02:48] <cablesm102> The default install is identical
[02:48] <BiGdAdDy> k thanks ppl
[02:49] <bruenig> heaths, I know there is a way to enable cd repository in synaptic but I wouldn't think that would force you to use it
[02:49] <bruenig> heaths, you could download the package from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <cablesm102> awkward silence
[02:50] <heaths> yeah just would e nice to have to do that everytime i wanted something;)
[02:50] <bruenig> always silent...
[02:50] <powerbook> I need some help - I installed mysql with apt-get but I didn't set a password anywhere, what is it? there is a password for some reason
[02:50] <bruenig> I guess unless you have beeps enabled
[02:51] <smax> whats a good site to deploy a tftp server ?
[02:51] <unics> password for the mysql server ?
[02:51] <elaziz> powerbook : look at my.ini file
[02:51] <vince790> almost bald from trying to install on this laptop :X
[02:51] <Vekemi> vince - installing isn't the pain.
[02:51] <heaths> myslql -u root prompts you to change it
[02:52] <powerbook> elaziz: where is that located? what folder?
[02:52] <Vekemi> Getting the drivers for everything and updating everything is the real pain :x
[02:52] <pwk> last question before i goto install
[02:52] <pwk> i got vista nd xp daul boot with vist'a boot loader
[02:52] <elaziz> powerbook : heaths sentence is correct
[02:52] <pwk> will installing ubnutu affect it ?
[02:52] <bruenig> pwk, it will install grub boot loader but that boot loader should allow you to pick from the three
[02:52] <bruenig> make sure you don't reformat those partitions
[02:52] <Homer> !grub
[02:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:53] <powerbook> bash: myslql: command not found
[02:53] <unics> try mysqladmin -u root password  'new password' to change it(create it)
[02:53] <heaths> there you go
[02:53] <Vekemi> powerbook : mysqpl -u root
[02:53] <unics> then mysql -u root -p
[02:53] <heaths> or spell mysql right;)
[02:53] <pwk> i just thgouht, can't i test linux in vmware in xp?
[02:53] <unics> to log in
[02:53] <powerbook> bash: myslql: command not found
[02:53] <krazykit> yes
[02:53] <Vekemi> No first l
[02:53] <powerbook> err
[02:53] <pwk> or vpc 2004?
[02:53] <heaths> i'm running ubuntu in vmware
[02:53] <powerbook> bash: mysql: command not found
[02:53] <Vekemi> < <
[02:53] <vince790> alright im out night all and ty for your intrest
[02:53] <pwk> ok
[02:53] <heaths> had no issues geting loaded
[02:54] <Vekemi> It probably didn't install correctly :|
[02:54] <pwk> cause then it'll tell me if i want it main os
[02:54] <powerbook> Vekemi what is the mysql package called?
[02:55] <silvertip257> hello all
[02:55] <pwk> should i use vpc 04 or vmware for ubuntu ?
[02:55] <Rasta> haha
[02:55] <Rasta> lilo its dead?
[02:55] <unics> powerbook try apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client
[02:55] <heaths> hrm wonder if i could just mount the iso to get around this load cd thing
[02:55] <Renan_s2> pwk, vmware
[02:55] <silvertip257> hey flannel
[02:56] <bleaked> ok, i just updated, then ran a simple upgrade (dapper security updates).. dpkg updated my kernel and a few other packages.  because of the kernel upgrade, and the fact that i haven't rebooted all summer, i decided to do a quick reboot.  on boot, after the POST, i get a blank screen with the text, "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT".  er..so is this a grub error?  kernel?  other?  i've booted into the livecd, and mounted my root partition.  /boot/grub/me
[02:56] <bleaked> lled kernel listed.  i'm rather puzzled, any ideas?
[02:56] <powerbook> I guess it didnt install right... doing that now unics, thanks
[02:57] <pwk> anything specail i do in vmware ?
[02:57] <silvertip257> bleaked what type of font file do i need to install on a linux system?
[02:57] <Homer> I have having trouble imagining a dapper drake in real life
[02:57] <silvertip257> bleaked:  i cannot use .ttf or w/e i'm assuming
[02:58] <SeanTater> pwk: I recommend qemu
[02:58] <Rasta> someone knows if its possible to emulate IExplorer and photoshop in ubuntu without virtual machines like vmware?
[02:58] <ThinkingMan> anyone have a moment to help a guy out with what is probably a stupid question about the sudoers file?
[02:58] <brian98> thinkingman: Whats the prob
[02:58] <unics> rasta  try crossover
[02:58] <tritium> ThinkingMan: don't edit it.  Add users to the admin group instead.
[02:58] <bleaked> silvertip257: why are you asking me?
[02:58] <pwk> whats qemu
[02:58] <pwk> ?
[02:58] <The_Vox> anybody know if the AMD64 version of 6.10 will be BiArch?
[02:58] <SeanTater> pwk: qemu is free and in the repositories, the accelerator is free,  but not as in fredom, and can be acquired from the website
[02:58] <tritium> !qemu
[02:58] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:58] <silvertip257> bleaked:  i thought u were answering a question about fonts...no?
[02:59] <Rasta> unics, ok ill try it thanks man
[02:59] <SeanTater> pwk: it simulates a computer inside your computer
[02:59] <bleaked> silvertip257: but as far as i know, ttf works fine.  you're probably after the various font packages in the repositories.  and no i wasn't answering any font questions.
[02:59] <silvertip257> sorry bleaked, how do i install fonts, once i get them off another partition on my hd
[03:00] <pwk> Swweeetttt it lest u run winows in linux ?
[03:00] <ThinkingMan> brian98: I just picked up a hp laserjet 2605dn which requires a driver not in the ubuntu package tree, so I found a driver at http://hplip.sourceforge.net which gives me a .run file to run, when I try to sudo ./hplip-1.6.9.run I get
[03:00] <jack_> hi guys
[03:00] <ThinkingMan> sudo: ./hplip-1.6.9.run: command not found
[03:00] <silvertip257> sorry bleaked, how do i install fonts, once i get them off another partition on my hd
[03:00] <bleaked> silvertip257: i actually don't know..  and could care less right now, my system is currently broken, and so i don't have much time for this.  please check the forums and the ubuntu wiki, it's covered in both places in much detail.
[03:01] <ThinkingMan> So I'm assuming I need to edit the sudoers file using visudo to say "hey, let me run whatever command I want", it's just a question of how
[03:01] <jack_> do you like cheese
[03:01] <tritium> ThinkingMan: it's not already supported without the need for that driver?
[03:01] <tpm> sudo chmod +x hplip...
[03:01] <silvertip257> *sorry* bleaked
[03:01] <tritium> ThinkingMan: no, that's not your problem.   I wanted to get rid of xgl, so I removed it, but now I don't have a window manager. I'm in KDE
[03:01] <The_Vox> silvertip257: just copy them to ~/.fonts for a single user or stick them wherever the other ttf files in your /usr directory are
[03:01] <silvertip257> thank you The_Vox
[03:02] <silvertip257> i will try that
[03:02] <brian98> thinkingman: maybe need to set them to be executable
[03:02] <ThinkingMan> heeyy it appears to be working
[03:02] <brian98> !chmod
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <ThinkingMan> well, appeared
[03:02] <boris55> LTSP 5.0?
[03:02] <ThinkingMan> warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: gcc (gcc - GNU Project C and C++ Compiler)
[03:02] <ThinkingMan> I'm pretty sure gcc is there
[03:03] <brian98> it must be a source package..
[03:03] <tpm> thinkingman...sudo apt-get install build-essentials shoould do it
[03:03] <brian98> What he says ! ;)
[03:04] <brian98> except its build-essential I think
[03:04] <tritium> right, brian98
[03:04] <pwk> i'll stay with windows i think
[03:04] <ThinkingMan> yep, essential
[03:04] <tpm> I think brian98 is right
[03:04] <ThinkingMan> but thanks
[03:04] <EvanIsaac> I think I installed the driver for my W111T Netgear USB adapter, but it's not showing up in Networking
[03:05] <ThinkingMan> I'm supposing I should've checked linux driver compat before picking up this printer
[03:05] <derekjww> hello
[03:05] <brian98> Thinkingman: you should be able to get it working...
[03:05] <pwk> thxs everyone
[03:05] <tritium> ThinkingMan: are you sure it's not already supported?
[03:05] <pwk> ubnutu's not for me
[03:05] <pwk> too hard
[03:05] <EvanIsaac> i typed in ndis -l, and it says athfmwdl driver present, hardware present
[03:05] <derekjww> I am to ask  how to enable HAL
[03:05] <tritium> ThinkingMan: the standard Postscript driver at least should work.
[03:05] <EvanIsaac> but shouldn't that mean it's working?
[03:06] <brian98> pwk: Not to worry!
[03:06] <pwk> and not too many software as windows
[03:06] <ThinkingMan> tritium: standard...pstscript...driver?
[03:06] <pwk> i was close
[03:06] <tritium> ThinkingMan: did you go through the printer setup utility?
[03:06] <pwk> i ran 5.10 live cd before a little was ok
[03:06] <ThinkingMan> fwiw, the printer is shared from a windows box upstairs
[03:06] <ThinkingMan> tritium: yup
[03:06] <brian98> pwk: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:07] <EvanIsaac> don't all come answer me at once now..
[03:07] <brian98> Sorry ,,,
[03:07] <derekjww> I am to ask  how to enable HAL
[03:07] <derekjww> ?
[03:07] <brian98> EvanIsaac!
[03:07] <brian98> What is the prob?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> derekjww: hal is enabled by defaulkt
[03:07] <gnomefreak> -k
[03:07] <EvanIsaac> ok
[03:07] <derekjww> ok
[03:07] <EvanIsaac> i'm very new to ubuntu
[03:08] <brian98> no worries!
[03:08] <EvanIsaac> and i'm trying to get my W111T Netgear USB adapter to work
[03:08] <tritium> ThinkingMan: there is a Color Laserjet 2605 regular and postscript printer driver already
[03:08] <brian98> ok
[03:08] <silvertip257> The_Vox, where do i get to that directory you're talking about?
[03:08] <czer323_> !mirrors
[03:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:08] <EvanIsaac> i tried installing the drivers using the howto on the site but i don't think that worked
[03:08] <tpm> evan have you installed network-manager?
[03:09] <Red-Sox> EvanIsaac: What's the problem?
[03:09] <ThinkingMan> tritium: maybe I'm missing something in the printer installation process, I'm going through system->administration->printing...
[03:09] <EvanIsaac> eh?
[03:09] <boris55> beta released today, correct?
[03:09] <EvanIsaac> network manager? what?
[03:09] <tritium> ThinkingMan: no, that's correct
[03:09] <btdown> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta
[03:09] <EvanIsaac> i just went to networking to check if wlan0 was there like the howto said it should be but it wasn't there
[03:09] <brian98> evanisaac: go to a shell type sudo iwconfig
[03:10] <EvanIsaac> no wireless extensions
[03:10] <tpm> System->Administration->Synaptic...search for network-manager...assuming you have a wired connection.
[03:10] <ledfloyd> hi all, i've a problem with samba and ldap...when i run # net getlocalsid i had this error:
[03:10] <ledfloyd> [2006/09/28 17:55:34, 0]  lib/smbldap.c:smb_ldap_start_tls(546)
[03:10] <ledfloyd> Failed to issue the StartTLS instruction: Connect error
[03:10] <ThinkingMan> going through new printer -> setting up network printer using windows (smb), supplying the hostname and printer share, under my driver selection closest thing I have is hp color laserjet 2600
[03:10] <ThinkingMan> I have the 2605dn
[03:10] <ledfloyd> someone can help me?