[00:03] <Skeet> Can someone help me repair my grub menu on win10/ubuntu dualboot? Encountering this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[00:05] <teward> Skeet: that... isn't a grub error, that's a packaging conflict, are you using any odd PPAs, or non-Ubuntu repositories?
[00:05] <Skeet> I'm currently booted in to boot-repair from a usb drive. My win10 partition and ubuntu partition will not boot because grub is not installed
[00:06] <Skeet> And i do not know if I am or not because I cannot boot in my ubuntu to check my repositories for unkown sources
[00:06] <PocketUser> You could use bit bleach. Does the job usually.  Whatever the hardware one is called
[00:08] <PocketUser> Not sure how to put time and date parameters round it tho... Those logs could be a truck in size!
[00:08] <Skeet> teward can I pm you?
[00:08] <PocketUser> Please skeet
[00:10] <itsmemario> PocketUser: is that to me?
[00:11] <waltman> I thought I'd figured out how to do raid/lvm/partition setup manually from the installer, but it's not booting. This time I took pictures! http://wlad.mawode.com/~waltman/ubuntu-install/
[00:12] <waltman> partition1.jpg and partition2.jpg are two shots of the screen because it wouldn't all fit on one screen. boot_fail.jpg shows the messages at boot.
[00:12] <teward> Skeet: sorry, my internet keeps drifting in and out, I won't be able to help too much right now.  My parents' place doesn't have decent Internet.
[00:13] <Skeet> teward No problem thanks for the response.
[00:13] <waltman> It seems like I'm close.
[00:14] <PocketUser> Jees another boot issue!
[00:14] <waltman> If I have /dev/sda and /dev/sdb mirrored, what device do I want to boot off of?
[00:15] <PocketUser> The primary one. Not the mirror
[00:15] <waltman> /dev/sda1?
[00:15] <PocketUser> Do you have sda0 and sda1
[00:15] <Skeet> Can someone help me repair my grub menu on win10/ubuntu dualboot? Encountering this error while trying to repair from boot-repair live usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[00:16] <PocketUser> I'm sure you're making this up skeet!
[00:17] <Skeet> PocketUser would you like pictures to prove?
[00:17] <PocketUser> Uninstall win 10 and it'll be fine. Trust Ubuntu
[00:17] <bazhang> PocketUser, thats not helpful at all
[00:17] <waltman> Just sda1, I think.
[00:17] <bazhang> PocketUser, stop the nonsense PocketUser
[00:17] <Skeet> PocketUser: no. I have files on my win10 partition and also need it for my work
[00:18] <waltman> AND now it's not even letting me boot off the flash drive anymore? Sigh
[00:19] <drjam> yeesh
[00:19] <PocketUser> Lol how many devices have you got in there?
[00:20] <PocketUser> Just 1 raid of 2 disks?
[00:20] <waltman> 2 raids, each of 2 disks
[00:21] <waltman> Is there a key after it starts booting to use the installer?
[00:21] <waltman> there we go
[00:22] <waltman> Each drive has 1 big partition that I divided up in lvm
[00:22] <waltman> (this is why I took the pictures) :)
[00:23] <Skeet> Can someone help me repair my grub menu on win10/ubuntu dualboot? Encountering this error while trying to repair from boot-repair live usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[00:23] <waltman> I'm trying to boot off the shell on the flash drive
[00:28] <waltman> My plan was to raid sda1 and sdb1, divide it up with lvm, then boot.
[00:29] <drjam> ooooh raiding party
[00:29] <drjam> oh wait, sorry, wrong raid
[00:29]  * drjam slinks back to sidelines
[00:29] <waltman> Is that a bad idea?
[00:30] <thebucket> Can someone help me with dual boot please
[00:31] <thebucket> Great another dead channel
[00:31] <Bashing-om> thebucket: Many here can . Ask the real question, please :)
[00:32] <drjam> yup
[00:32] <drjam> wish i could help, am noob
[00:32] <tehBTP> Any books you can recommend? I'm taking a long flight and I'd like to read up on linux/ubuntu to get a better understanding.
[00:33] <Skeet> Can someone assist me with fixing mygrub menu? I am currently booted in live usb "Boot-repair" and it will not auto-fix my grub because of repository issues on my ubuntu install
[00:33] <bazhang> !manual | tehBTP
[00:33] <bazhang> for books recommendations try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel tehBTP
[00:34] <Zeropedian> i tried fedora today
[00:34] <tomreyn> waltman: the partitoning scheme looks fine, but where is /boot ?
[00:34] <Skeet> Here is an error on pastbin that the live usb is throwing at me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[00:34] <bazhang> Zeropedian, how does relate to ubuntu support here
[00:35] <Zeropedian> and it's yum pckgmanager showed me every single file that was downloaded and installed
[00:35] <tehBTP> bazhang, thanks. I already got the manual for reading was looking for more in depth. thanks though.
[00:35] <Zeropedian> i wonder if i can activate such thing in ubuntu
[00:35] <tomreyn> waltman: i think you want /boot on a separate RAID device without LVM
[00:35] <xk051> Zeropedian: dpkg
[00:35] <bazhang> Zeropedian, dpkg -l
[00:35] <Zeropedian> i'll try out..thanks
[00:36] <waltman> I didn't think I needed a separate boot partition with EFI.
[00:38] <duckhead1> hey can anyone helpe with PostFIX mail server
[00:38] <waltman> hmm, maybe not. Let's try that!
[00:40] <tomreyn> waltman: no, with EFI you don't need a boot, partition, you need an efi partition
[00:41] <Zeropedian> jesus..dpkg is heavy..
[00:42] <tomreyn> or ESP rather
[00:43] <ontheline> the creepy thing about setting boot stuff - is that every mis try... LOL there you go rebooting, tweaking and rebooting
[00:45] <ontheline> a better procedure would be having redundant hardware, on for tweaking and another for booting tries... hooray
[00:48] <ontheline> do a "boot testing software" exists? like a emulator/VM that would say "ya, your FS is fine and will probably boot"..
[00:48] <tomreyn> it would be nice if part of the installer media was r/w and you could store your answers to the installer prompts there and reload them on your next try, so you you'd only need to redo those things you actually want to change, not the entire installation.
[00:49] <Ben64> ontheline: that doesn't make sense
[00:49] <tomreyn> the installer does wanr you about some obvious fallacies
[00:50] <Windowsforever> Do yourself a favour Ben and think before you type!
[00:50] <ontheline> tomreyn, that would be nice - but youre assuming an install
[00:51] <bazhang> Windowsforever, thats not helpf ul at all
[00:51] <ontheline> Ben64, the idea is like a "fs checker"
[00:51] <Ben64> like fsck?
[00:51] <ontheline> Ben64, check if a the FS have booting condition
[00:51] <Ben64> that's not something that is checkable
[00:51] <Windowsforever> Bazhang?
[00:51] <ontheline> Ben64, :D
[00:51] <Ben64> way way too many variables
[00:51] <ontheline> lol
[00:52] <Ben64> just ... boot it
[00:52] <drjam> lol
[00:52] <drjam> the irony is, ive found microsoft hyper-v to be rock solid so i can test ubuntu installs as VMs
[00:52] <ontheline> ontheline, it would involve "a piece of VM" "a piece of emulators" - maybe diffrent modules for diffrent architectures :D
[00:52] <drjam> i can suggest that as a possible support answer in ubuntu here
[00:53] <ontheline> im delirating... too much turkey - sorry guys
[00:53] <ontheline> btw - just as expression - handt any turkey this year - were on pork
[00:56] <Windowsforever> Come on ontheline grow up. We didn't come here to hear all about your vagina and the first time you bled!
[00:56] <ontheline> cya
[00:56] <ontheline> oh oh..
[00:56] <drjam> iieeww, that also was not cool for in here
[00:56] <ontheline> Windowsforever, kkkkkkkkkkkk
[00:57] <ontheline> bye
[00:57] <drjam> lol
[01:00] <Skeet> Can someone help me repair my grub menu on win10/ubuntu dualboot? Encountering this error while trying to repair from boot-repair live usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[01:00] <drjam> would re-installing it help? youve got your datab backed up somewhere else right?
[01:01] <Ben64> Skeet: pastebin the output from boot-repair
[01:02] <Skeet> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23691529/
[01:02] <Ben64> uh, no
[01:03] <drjam> doh
[01:04] <spupuser> Hi, can help me with a command
[01:04] <Skeet> I dont understand what you mean then by upload a pastebin, I'm in the middle of using boot-repair and it tells me to C&P that command in a terminal and when I do it spits out the orignal pastebin that I uploaded
[01:05] <Ben64> Skeet: that doesn't make sense, it should just look at your boot information and tell you
[01:07] <Skeet> Ben64: Here it what i believe you are looking for - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691571/
[01:09] <daniel> daniel
[01:10] <daniel> coño
[01:10] <Guest62587> ok
[01:10] <Guest62587> guest625887
[01:10] <Guest62587> qye
[01:11] <Guest62587> nbh
[01:12] <Ben64> Skeet: how is this an ubuntu issue? says there you're running kali
[01:14] <Skeet> Because it is ubuntu and not kali. If I could boot in the system I can screenshot the desktop and show you. I do not know why it states Kali
[01:16] <kaleo_> hello
[01:19] <kaleo_>  /ns register kaleozhou<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:21] <kk4ewt> kaleo_, change your password now
[01:29] <MarcoP> nice pass and email :)
[01:29] <kaleo_> #xiangtingkeji
[01:31] <carlyanna> hey guys I need some help. I currently am running 16.04 ubuntu desktop. I made a signifigant mistake earlier today...I was trying to download lubuntu 64 to my USB stick so that I can install on other computer. I tried deleting all of the files on the USB (I had used this usb as a boot device on another computer recently and wantd to use it for a different boot on new computer). Anyway I right clicked and saw I could "zero out" the U
[01:31] <carlyanna> now I don't know how to fix the USB
[01:32] <carlyanna> I've downloaded GPARTED and have /debsdb1 showing a red flag and then an unallocated partition listed
[01:32] <carlyanna> can anyone help
[01:32] <bazhang> carlyanna, you tried to dl ot a live usb?
[01:32] <bazhang> carlyanna, not a persistent one?
[01:32] <carlyanna> not sure what you mean, I just wanted to erase what was on the USB and I clicked
[01:32] <carlyanna> the "replace with zeros" option
[01:33] <carlyanna> and now it's not being recognized, the USB
[01:33] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent carlyanna
[01:33] <Ben64> well you erased it
[01:33] <Ben64> create a new partition if you want
[01:33] <carlyanna> is ther a way to make it a normal blank USB again?
[01:34] <GALL0> Ubuntu 16.04.1 server, no GUI. edit `/etc/samba/smb.conf`  with http://pastebin.com/Rb5rVSU7 at the end. restarted samba service, can't connect via finder/OS X
[01:34] <tenX> carlyanna: it is really blank right now
[01:34] <Ben64> carlyanna: gparted
[01:34] <carlyanna> yep downloaded gparted
[01:34] <carlyanna> but whats with the red flag
[01:35] <Ben64> who knows, we can't see it
[01:35] <bazhang> carlyanna, are you trying to use gparted on a running system
[01:35] <sruli> carlyanna: post the otput of lsblk to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <tenX> carlyanna: basically the drive is missing any partition and file system now and will not be recognized as an accessable device
[01:41] <carlyanna> sruli: what do you mean post the output
[01:41] <carlyanna> bazhang: i am using gparted on a running system to try and fix my usb stick
[01:42] <carlyanna> tenX: so i basically made it a useless piece of plastic?
[01:42] <carlyanna> or is it fixable
[01:42] <bazhang> carlyanna, is the system running on the usb or where
[01:42] <carlyanna> lol
[01:42] <sruli> carlyanna: in the terminal execute "lsblk" copy the output and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <tenX> carlyanna: it is easily fixed
[01:43] <tenX> carlyanna: you simply have to create one or more partitions and format it
[01:44] <tenX> carlyanna: with a file system of your choice
[01:47] <GALL0> Ubuntu 16.04.1 server, no GUI. edit `/etc/samba/smb.conf`  with http://pastebin.com/Rb5rVSU7 at the end. restarted samba service, can't connect via finder/OS X
[01:48] <cfhowlett> !server | GALL0
[01:48] <GALL0> thanks
[01:48] <GALL0> ?join #ubuntu-server
[01:49] <cfhowlett>        /join
[01:53] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu slow
[01:53] <ubuntu-mate> eh gnome slow ding
[01:53] <bazhang> which part is slow ubuntu-mate
[01:54] <bazhang> give us the exact details please ubuntu-mate
[01:54] <ubuntu-mate> desktop environment..
[01:54] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-mate, install lxde or xfce.  logout, choose your DE and login
[01:54] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate, yes, thats not clear at all, we need the exact details
[01:55] <ubuntu-mate> i'm sorry..  it's not ubuntu.. it's Unity..
[01:55] <ubuntu-mate> Unity slow.
[01:55] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-mate, same suggestion: install xfce4 or lxde.
[01:56] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu-mate, same suggestion: install xfce4 or lxde. ==> yeah.. i'am using ubuntu mate now..  it's fast.
[01:56] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate, again thats not clear what exact issues you are having, please stop repeating the same 'slow'
[01:57] <realm174> Hi all. Ubuntu 16.10, I previously had an older ATI card. Just put in a GTX950, but all I get is a black screen. No login screen or anything.  I know the card works, I'm using in in Windows (dual boot). Anything special I need to do to get Ubuntu to see the new video card?
[01:57] <bazhang> what are the system specs ubuntu-mate , what ram, which cpu, which gpu, what drivers installed from where
[01:58] <cfhowlett> realm174, first try nomodeset to get your desktop operational
[01:58] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset
[01:59] <realm174> Thanks gentlemen, I'll go try that! :)
[01:59] <realm174> (or ladies... sorry for the assumption)
[02:07] <nmw> can someone help with a lubuntu update 16.04 to 16.10 issue?
[02:08] <Ben64> only if  you explain the issue
[02:08] <cfhowlett> !help | nmw
[02:08] <nmw> well, it seemed to error, but lsb_release -a says it's on 16.10 but synaptic says "lubuntu-desktop" is a broken package
[02:09] <nmw> something about "gnome software center" not being installed and some more items but I don't know where the log file is
[02:09] <mathFreak> hey
[02:09] <mathFreak> where can i get a list of freenode chanels
[02:09] <mathFreak> channels
[02:10] <nmw> and I'm afraid to reboot
[02:10] <cfhowlett> nmw, first let's get good info.  sudo apt update && sudo apt do-release-upgrade | pastebinit
[02:13] <dian_> LIST
[02:14] <nmw> oh wow this is more broken then it thought...looks like I can't even install pastebinit
[02:15] <nmw> lubuntu-desktop has unmet dependencies
[02:15] <nmw> that's the error there
[02:15] <cfhowlett> nmw, pastebinit should be there.  let's try an alternative: sudo do-release-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:16] <nmw> "no new release found"
[02:17] <cfhowlett> nmw, good.  sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999           <<< use the paste this time please.
[02:25] <eelstrebor> tomreyn, i  got my problem resolved - i didn't know about the passthru option for the dvd drive - i checked the box and now the windows 10 guest sees the game
[02:25] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: so the screenshots helped, i was hoping so
[02:29] <Scoop_> Hello everyone. Have a extreme situation. I executed "sudo /* ../" And the long story short I am looking for some specific folder with files that used to  be in /home/user~ alongside with download, desktop, images etc is it possible to find them? Because I am having a really hard time here.
[02:29] <tomreyn> "sudo /* ../" - what is this supposed to do?
[02:30] <Scoop_> sorry "sudo mv /* ../"
[02:31] <tomreyn> ugh
[02:31] <tomreyn> which directory where you in when you did this?
[02:31] <Scoop_> i did this in /var/www/html/website/project
[02:32] <tomreyn> so /var/www/html/website/project now contains most directories which were previously stored below /
[02:32] <Scoop_> yes
[02:32] <tomreyn> so you should probably move them back
[02:33] <Scoop_> but my desired home/user~ folder are not present from the first look
[02:33] <tomreyn> /home/user~ will currently be at /var/www/html/website/project/home/user~
[02:35] <Scoop_> I should also mention that my ubuntu 16.04 crashed (had a dual boot with win 10) and win 10 also... I am know writing from recovered win 8 and I am searching with windows search the ubuntu partition
[02:35] <tomreyn> so, just to make sure we're agreeing on this: you are aware that you moved important parts of the operating system to a location where it won't be found during boot? i.e. unless you move those directories back to where they came from this system won't boot, and probably will fail for other reasons, too
[02:37] <tomreyn> you are searching through the ubuntu partition from within windows? how would this work? windows does not (natively) understand linux supported file systems (other than vfat, ntfs)
[02:37] <Scoop_> I agree but the OS is at the least concern, just want to find important files. But... you're saying i can manually move those files to root and try booting ubuntu ?
[02:38] <Scoop_> tomreyn i am using a 3rd party program  Paragon ExtFS for Windows
[02:38] <tomreyn> you can try, unless you changed other things it should work, given you make no mistakes while moving things back
[02:38] <tomreyn> i see
[02:41] <tomreyn> i have no experience with this paragon extfs software, cannot tell whether it can move files on ext4 (i asuspect that's what you have there) file systems, or whether it can do so reliably
[02:41] <waltman> I tried making /boot a separate partition, but it's still failing to boot.
[02:42] <waltman> Here's my current setup: https://gist.github.com/waltman/bb0a3279731b488221e480acb953aae8
[02:43] <Scoop_> tomreyn just one more thing - the folders appeared in var/www/html/website not  var/www/html/website/project . That logical, right? The command was "sudo mv /* ../"
[02:43] <waltman> everything except the swap space is ext4
[02:44] <tomreyn> Scoop_: yes that's logical, since the ".." path specification refers to the parent directory.
[02:46] <tomreyn> waltman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/353683/uefi-partitioning-for-dummies#answer
[02:49] <tomreyn> as i mentioned earlier, you don't need /boot, you need an ESP. which needs to be fat32 formatted (but i think the installer will do this automatically if you configure it to be ESP/EFI).
[02:50] <tomreyn> see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:50] <zhou_xingyu> hello everyone
[02:51] <zhou_xingyu> https://paste.gnome.org/puncr2uhv
[02:51] <zhou_xingyu> may you help me with it?
[02:57] <tomreyn> zhou_xingyu: what does this return? lsb_release -sd; uname -m
[02:58] <tomreyn> zhou_xingyu: looks like your system time / date is very wrong, your computer thinks it's the year 2012
[03:00] <ddoobb> Hi. I installed Ubuntu on an old Vista laptop as dual boot and initially Ubuntu ran very well but now it has slowed to unusable levels and even crashes now and then. I have reinstalled once but that didn't help. What can I do. Given how slow Ubuntu is I'd rather go back to using Vista than reinstall Ubuntu.
[03:04] <tomreyn> ddoobb: maybe your disk is falling apart, or the file system ran full or almost full. but without more details, speculation is the only approach one can take here.
[03:08] <ddoobb> tomreyn: So what should I do to look for a solution?
[03:08] <az> Hello, I'm not seeing my partitions on sidebar anymore. they are there but not showing as mountable as usual in file manager
[03:09] <tomreyn> ddoobb: check your log files, start with /var/log/syslog - see whether there are error reported, and which. you can post the latest logfile online using !pastebinit for others here to review
[03:09] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | ddoobb
[03:09] <sugoiryu> hello the package rtl8812au-dkms will not install correctly
[03:11] <tomreyn> !smart | ddoobb
[03:12] <tomreyn> ddoobb: ^ you can try this to check whether your disk is falling apart - which is actually very likely on a laptop which cam eith windows vista pre-installed, since it's so old
[03:13] <tomreyn> ddoobb: in case you would consider replacing parts or all of the hardware, check with the folk in ##hardware for suggestions
[03:13] <ddoobb> tomreyn thanks im gonna check smartmontools
[03:14] <tomreyn> sugoiryu: provide more details, try installing it on a command line and post the output to a !pastebin
[03:14] <tomreyn> !pastebin | sugoiryu
[03:14] <tomreyn> ddoobb: to see how full your disks are, just use: df -h && df -i
[03:15] <tomreyn> none of the percentages should be between 95% and 100 %
[03:15] <tomreyn> anything above 90% may result in noticable slowdowns
[03:16] <tenX> tomreyn: you should really replace an hdd of that age before it is too late
[03:16] <tenX> tomreyn: meant to address at ddoobb sry
[03:17] <tomreyn> tenX: it's not minie, but yes, sugoiryu should if it has that age. which is why i suggested talking to people in ##hardware for partial or full hardware replacements
[03:17] <tomreyn> whoops, ddoobb, not sugoiryu
[03:17] <tenX> tomreyn: ;)
[03:17]  * tomreyn getting sleepy
[03:18] <ddoobb> tomreyn: they're all fairly below 95%
[03:18] <tenX> ddoobb: in case you want to keep that old hardware you might exchange the old disk with a ssd
[03:19] <_Marek_> hi all
[03:19] <xangua> Hi, happy new year
[03:19] <tenX> xangua: what time zone is that?
[03:19] <_Marek_> does anyone know gmp mpfr mpc are missing on my ubuntu system? they are part of gcc compiler
[03:20] <tomreyn> ddoobb: yet another excplanation might be that the fans are broken or too jammed with dust so they run too slow, making the cpu  limit itself (runing sloweR) to prevent from running hot.
[03:20] <tomreyn> _Marek_: did you mean to put the word "why" in there?
[03:21] <_Marek_> tomreyn: yes i did sorry for that
[03:21] <waltman> Boot failed once again.
[03:21] <Scoop_> @tomreyn tried to boot ubuntu got an error dev/sda9 problem...
[03:21] <ddoobb> can I check cpu temps from terminal?
[03:21] <tenX> tomreyn: that should be noisy and might be temporarily worked around with a vacuum cleaner ;)
[03:22] <_Marek_> strangely enough i get GNU Awk 4.1.3, API: 1.1 (GNU MPFR 3.1.4, GNU MP 6.1.0)
[03:22] <tomreyn> Scoop_: your best bet is probably to reinstall.
[03:22] <waltman> is there a flag to set the partition to EFI? I didn't see any option for that in the installer's partition screen.
[03:22] <tomreyn> _Marek_: so what makes you think these parts are missing?
[03:22] <Scoop_> but tried to look further through win8 to ubuntu partition and discovered that my ubuntu files are encryped and linked, but looks like they are somewhere there - do you know what my second steps should be?
[03:23] <_Marek_> tomreyn: im unable to find them in /usr/lib(32,64) via a script
[03:23] <tomreyn> tenX: yes, works sometimes. or you just wait until the dust bursts up in flames, works, too.
[03:24] <tenX> tomreyn: wow thats way more flashy i guess
[03:24]  * tomreyn tested successfully
[03:24] <ddoobb> Also, can I get anything useful from this dialog http://i.imgur.com/S29Lzzj.png
[03:24] <ddoobb> it showed after crash
[03:25] <tomreyn> Scoop_: are you possibly referring to the contents of your home directory and home directory encryption (using ecryptfs)?
[03:25] <Scoop_> https://postimg.org/image/b0id26cw7/   tomreyn
[03:25] <Scoop_> yes!
[03:26] <tomreyn> read README.txt ;)
[03:26] <tomreyn> !encrypted | Scoop_
[03:27] <tomreyn> this should contain an explanation on how to recover the data.
[03:27] <Scoop_> THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA.  From the graphical desktop, click on:  "Access Your Private Data"  or  From the command line, run:  ecryptfs-mount-private
[03:28] <sugoiryu> hello the package rtl8812au-dkms will not install correctly: http://pastebin.com/XZ0FyiyU
[03:29] <Scoop_> i found this text in usr/share/encryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.txt   (it was pointed from the readme.txt )
[03:29] <tomreyn> ddoobb: that's just an application crash, nothing impacting the system as a whole. and i *think* (not sure) that especially "gnome-software" is not very stable in ubuntu 16.04 (and other linux distributions released around the time)
 sugoiryu: provide more details, try installing it on a command line and post the output to a !pastebin
[03:30] <tomreyn> ^ sugoiryu: still the same
[03:30] <tomreyn> Scoop_: check the wiki, too
[03:30] <sugoiryu> i get same output from command line
[03:32] <sugoiryu> i did put the output to pastebin
[03:32] <ddoobb> OK, just checked temperatures, is this too high? http://pastebin.com/iw1tNxUX
[03:33] <ddoobb> syslog here http://pastebin.com/xcP5SCiY
[03:33] <Scoop_> tomreyn i will try this http://www.r-studio.com/Data_Recovery_From_Encrypted_Linux_Disk.shtml  What do you think?
[03:33] <tomreyn> sugoiryu: sorry i had missed the pastebin output
[03:33] <sugoiryu> tomreyn, oh ok
[03:34] <ddoobb> tomreyn: but my system did shut down though because of that crash
[03:34] <ddoobb> i got that screen after it restarted
[03:36] <tomreyn> sugoiryu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtl8812au/+bug/1613009
[03:37] <tomreyn> sugoiryu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtl8812au/+bug/1629235
[03:38] <tomreyn> or rather: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1595765
[03:38] <tomreyn> these bug reports contain some workarounds
[03:39] <sugoiryu> hmm ok thanks.. will try the github link from there
[03:39] <kylie> Hello all
[03:39] <Scoop_> tomreyn waiting for your advice about the url i posted :)
[03:40] <kylie> I'm having some issues with Ubuntu 16.10.
[03:41] <tomreyn> Scoop_: i do not know "R-Studio Agent for Linux" and cannot comment on whether or not it is going to produce the intended result. i did point you to a wiki page which should have instruction son how to recover data from an ecrypts file system.
[03:41] <kylie> When I open the Unity search, it takes a long time to open. And the text in the search bar does not clear when I finish searching.
[03:41] <tomreyn> kylie: hi. please describe the issue.
[03:41] <tomreyn> sugoiryu: good luck
[03:41] <sugoiryu> ah cool that 1 built and works great.. though it aint dkms
[03:42] <Scoop_> tomreyn which one wiki site? Do you have an url?
[03:42] <sugoiryu> tomreyn, ty ive had awesome luck :)
[03:42] <kylie> Just to clarify, sometimes it takes a long time to open. Other times, it doesn't.
[03:43] <Scoop_> kylie if you want to be on the same boat as I am - try "sudo mv /* ../"    Then you will understand what real problems are :D
[03:44] <kylie> Scoop_, That's not helpful, and um at "real problems." Each problem is valued here.
[03:44] <tomreyn> !encrypted | Scoop_
 Scoop_: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[03:45] <tomreyn> Scoop_: ^ this
[03:45] <tomreyn> (i had posted this before)
[03:46] <Scoop_> Thanks a million tomreyn, kylie sorry.
[03:47] <tomreyn> Scoop_: please don't give bad advice here, even jokingly, it's too dangerous.
[03:47] <tomreyn> and you're welcome
[03:48] <tomreyn> kylie: sorry i porbably can't help, lacking experience with unity.
[03:48] <tomreyn> kylie: you could check ~/.xession-errors for hints on what is going wrong, though
[03:48] <kylie> OK, if someone is willing to help please do!
[03:48] <tomreyn> maybe /var/log/Xorg.*.log too
[03:48] <kylie> tomreyn, looking now.
[03:50] <kylie> Hm, I'm not sure that xsession-errors says anything relevant to this. I'll pastebin both and we'll see what happens
[03:50] <kylie> !paastebin
[03:50] <kylie> !pastebin
[03:51] <kylie> xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23692316/
[03:53] <kylie> Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23692321/
[03:53] <FatherWh0> I have an ubuntu external that's become unbootable from drive errors and for some reason my install disk isn't offering reinstall.
[03:54] <FatherWh0> what's my best bet for repair?
[03:56] <tomreyn> kylie: this "unity-settings-daemon main process ended, respawning" seems to point at a (yet undetermined) underlying issue. you may want to try and find out why it keeps ending and respawning. my (limited) understanding is that it should be run once during graphical login and remain running until you logout, or until X exits.
[03:56] <tomreyn> i'm not sure how to diagnose it further, however
[03:56] <FatherWh0> I'm booted to the install cd. the desktop there a good place to repair?
[03:57] <tomreyn> kylie: Xorg.0.log looks ok to me
[03:57] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: yes, or the temrinal there
[03:58] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: what kind of drive errors? by "an ubuntu external", do you mean an external disk drive?
[03:59] <FatherWh0> yes, it's a passport. I've forgotten the exact error. I'd have to restart to it to see. Should I or should I attempt some kind of repair while I've got the desktop up?
[03:59] <waltman> install failed AGAIN
[04:00] <waltman> When I get to the point where it asks me where to install grub, is it /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[04:00] <crazyhorse18> hey all.. i want to copy off all my photos of my iphone.. and it doesnt' seem to work with ubuntu 14.04... anyone know a fix?
[04:00] <crazyhorse18> or some software i can download
[04:00] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: you can try diagnosing from where you are. are you somewhat comfortabler with using a terminal?
[04:01] <kylie> tomreyn, yeah, I'm not sure how to diagnose it further either. For now, do you have any suggestions on what I can do to work around this, such as using GNOME instead of Unity?
[04:01] <Aquaholic> Hello?
[04:01] <crazyhorse18> it used to work but i think apple has changed something in iOS 10
[04:01] <tomreyn> hello!
[04:02] <Aquaholic> I seem to be having an issue with a USB that I DD'd an ISO onto - it now shows as unallocated and only 1.5GB - supposed to be 16.
[04:02] <tomreyn> kylie: you could try a different desktop environment, sure. apt-cache search '.*-desktop$' for a selection (not all of these are desktop environments, read the descritive texts)
[04:03] <xangua> crazyhorse18: two tips about using iPhone and Ubuntu: try to keep latest Ubuntu release and hold off iOS updates for at least 6 months
[04:03] <tomreyn> waltman: /dev/sda most likely.
[04:04] <waltman> That's what I'm doing.
[04:04] <waltman> I updated my partition description: https://gist.github.com/waltman/bb0a3279731b488221e480acb953aae8
[04:05] <FatherWh0> tomreyn: trufully I don't know enough about linux to know the commands even. I'm a windows person just getting started in the linux world.
[04:05] <kylie> tomreyn, I looked, and I'm not sure if I'm seeing anything that matches a GNOME option? Likee replacing the desktop environmeent is what I mean
[04:05] <waltman> The error I'm getting is 'volume group "ssd-vg" not found'
[04:05] <FatherWh0> tomreyn: that said I prefer command lines.
[04:06] <tomreyn> !terminal | FatherWh0
[04:06] <kylie> Oh, MATE may be it (from the answer by ubottu), looking again
[04:06] <Aquaholic> Or CTRL+ALT+T works on most
[04:06] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: you can do a file system check (fsck) on all partitions / file systems on your disk
[04:07] <tomreyn> !fsck | FatherWh0
[04:07] <kylie> OK, I see MATE now.
[04:07] <kylie> Installing...
[04:07] <kylie> After I install, how do I remove Unity?
[04:07] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: ... and you can inspect the S.M.A.R.T. data to get an idea of the health of the drive, too.
[04:07] <tomreyn> !smart | FatherWh0
[04:09] <xangua> kylie: I believe the mate desktop site has commands to remove unity and gnome components, but it's better just to leave it alone or fresh install Ubuntu mate
[04:09] <Aquaholic> So uh, just wondering, how can I expand the unallocated space to fill what it's supposed to have?
[04:09] <waltman> I finally got to a shell prompt, but I can't do very much
[04:09] <tomreyn> kylie: sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <waltman> I'm not sure how I could try to manually mount a drive to see what /etc looks like.
[04:10] <xangua> tomreyn: that will only remove a metapackage
[04:10] <kylie> xangua, I guess the better question then would be, how do I *switch* from Unity to MATE? Is there an option when I login with  lightdm?
[04:11] <xangua> kylie: I just arrived so I don't know what you're up to/whywant to switch from unity to mate
[04:11] <tomreyn> xangua, kylie: true, kylie should follow it up with: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[04:12] <tomreyn> kylie: but indeed you probably dont need to uninstall unity unless disk space is a concern. you can select the desktop environment to login to at the graphical login prompt.
[04:12] <kylie> xangua, Unity isn't working properly, and so far no one knows how to fix it. By switch, I just mean not starting Unity when I login
[04:12] <waltman> I've run out of things to try.
[04:12] <Aquaholic> Uh - okay - I tried to overwrite the first 512 bits with zeroes, and now a 16GB drive is showing up on the side, but gParted is still only showing the 1.5GB unallocated space
[04:12] <FatherWh0> tomreyn: It restarted. It did not run the check from what I can tell. i am at the command prompt now.
[04:13] <kylie> (Another problem I noticed just now: alt-tab sometimes takes forever, sometimes not.)
[04:13] <xangua> kylie: that sounds like an XY problem to me: X doesn't work, install Y
[04:13] <xangua> kylie: what are your system specs?
[04:13] <kylie> xangua, I haven't yet gotten support to fix the original problem.
[04:14] <kylie> xangua, Hmm, how can I find them? I have a Panasonic CF-C2
[04:14] <tomreyn> Aquaholic use the command 'lsblk' to identify the device name of the drive. usually something starting "sd". then run: "sudo parted /dev/sdX print 2>&1 | pastebinit" (replacing the X) and provide the url.
[04:15] <kylie> xangua, Intel integrated graphics, 4 GB ram, using ubuntu from an external hard drive
[04:15] <kylie> xangua, re the XY problem, it was a workaround due to the lack of support
[04:16] <xangua> kylie: looks more than capable of using unity or any other desktop you want, also uses Intel graphics, weird
[04:16] <kylie> xangua, Are there any other system specs you were looking for?
[04:17] <xangua> From an external drive?
[04:17] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: sorry, what restarted, i'm starting to loose track of the various issues peopel have
[04:17] <Aquaholic> Here it is Tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23692385/
[04:17] <kylie> xangua, What do you mean by your question about an external drive?
[04:17] <xangua> kylie: why using Ubuntu from an external drive? USB 2 port?
[04:17] <crazyhorse18> xangue: ah ok.. so basically need to do it on a macbook instead
[04:18] <kylie> xangua, Don't want to remove Windows 10 as I lease this computer
[04:18] <FatherWh0> tomreyn: it's ok. I took from what you told me and sorted out the commands I needed. It's fixed. :) I have desktop
[04:19] <xangua> crazyhorse18: you can also compile latest libimobiledevice
[04:19] <xangua> And keep up to date
[04:19] <kylie> xangua, I Don't know if it's a USB 2 port, good question
[04:20] <crazyhorse18> xangua: yeah i tried adding the ppa.. but didn't work on ubuntu 14.04
[04:20] <crazyhorse18> i'll try compile
[04:20] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: so that's a 16 GB device (or file?) you are looking at, with the first 1 MB used for partition table and master boot record. it has a sdingle partition on it which consumes all available space.
[04:21] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: and your goal is now what?
[04:21] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: Opening GParted, it shows that drive - the issue is it shows no partitions, only 1.5GB of unallocated space.
[04:21] <kylie> xangua, May I tell you the problem I said earlier?
[04:21] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: great, it'S glad you were able to fix it with just that.
[04:22] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: My goal is, in the end, get it back to normal in GParted, and then later make a bootable Linux drive so I can fix another computer
[04:22] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: can you show the output of: ls -l /dev/sdc
[04:23] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER> Dec 27 12:13 /dev/sdc
[04:23] <FatherWh0> Might be the wrong place but anyway.. I tested out raspberry pi's new Pixel because it's supposed to be useful on older pc's. Ended up with "ldlinux.c32 failed to load" which I'm guessing is incompatibility with the hardware. Can anyone advise another release I might try for an older pc?
[04:24] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: so this is a file, not a block device node. you must have made an error replacing the device node by a file.
[04:24] <Aquaholic> So - how may I fix it? I DD'd a linux bootable disk iso onto the drive, which I'm fairly sure was the cause.
[04:25] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: this is recoverable, but  you won't be able to work with the disk which is / was sdc until you move that file out of the way and re-attach the drive
[04:25] <xangua> FatherWh0: Lubuntu
[04:26] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: Alright - how could I move that file out of the way? I know how to use the basic commands such as DD, Ls, etc.
[04:26] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: you probably tried to dd an ISO to the drive, but actually overwrote a symbolic link at this location (dd will not resolve symbolic links provided as a destination in its 'of' parameter)
[04:27] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: sudo mv /dev/sdc /tmp/  # - this assumes oyu have sufficient space available in /tmp. check available space there using: df -h /tmp
[04:27] <waltman> So I've done everything you all have suggested about trying to make a bootable system, but it still won't boot. After a minute or so the boot process gave up and dropped me to a shell prompt. Is there any way I can mount the drives and look and see what the installer did?
[04:27] <Aquaholic> 161GB Avail.
[04:28] <Aquaholic> *Tomreyn:
[04:28] <tomreyn> waltman: parted -ls
[04:28] <tomreyn> waltman: or: cat /proc/partitions
[04:28] <waltman> parted not found
[04:28] <tomreyn> waltman: or: lsblk
[04:28] <FatherWh0> xangua: thx, looks good. :0
[04:28] <FatherWh0> xangua: *:)
[04:28] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: so you can move it safely
[04:29] <waltman> all I have are sda and sdb. I *don't* have sda1 or sda2.
[04:29] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: data stored to /tmp will be deleted on next boot (by default)
[04:29] <kylie> xangua, just want to see if you have any thoughts before I  log out and into GNOME ?
[04:29] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: Alright.
[04:30] <waltman> OK, I'm going to try to get a shell prompt out of the installer and see what fdisk says.
[04:30] <waltman> but where did sda1 and 2 go?
[04:30] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: So - how do I move it?
[04:30] <tomreyn> waltman: are yuo in a fully funcational bash shell, the grub CLI, or the emergency (busybox) shell? you could take photos and upload them, which might make it possible to support you (you have this tendency to provide little information).
[04:31] <xangua> kylie: next time lease a computer with Linux?
[04:31] <waltman> What more do you want me to say besides "I only see sda and sdb"?
[04:32] <waltman> this was the emergency busybox shell.
[04:32] <tomreyn> waltman: explain what commands you ran, what output was generated
[04:32] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: still the same command: sudo mv /dev/sdc /tmp/
[04:33] <maxtype> hey yeah
[04:33] <tomreyn> waltman: sorry if i lost patience, i should probably just go to bed soon.
[04:33] <maxtype> question, is it possible to set a virtual pointing device (like a touch pad) to a static id?
[04:33] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: Command done. What should I do now?
[04:34] <tomreyn> waltman: you may have more luck coming back with your questions later, nicely summed up as you already did on github.
[04:34] <kyliebrooks> xangua, I'm confused as to the relation here. I just don't want to remove things that I may not be allowed to remove from the internal hard drive.
[04:34] <waltman> tomreyn: I've been at this since 2 pm est. I'm feeling more than a little fried.
[04:35] <kyliebrooks> xangua, And I don't think it's the speed of the external hard drive that is the issue here
[04:35] <waltman> Having you want me to to take a picture of what's in /dev isn't helping.
[04:35] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: unmount file systems form the external disk (if you mounted any), then reattach the external disk.
[04:35] <kyliebrooks> Plus, I don't think I'm able to lease a computer with Linux unfortunately, don't have the $
[04:36] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: then check the output of 'dmsg -T | tail' - it should indicate which device node was assigned. then use "ls -a /dev/sdaX" again (again, replace X by the very character you determined)
[04:37] <kyliebrooks> So I'll logout in a few minutes. ttyl!
[04:37] <budder> attempting to install (first time). my laptop has a 128gb SSD. I shrunk 40gb from the C partition to dedicate towards Ubuntu. when I select the "install alongside Windows" I get what you see in the first pic. when i select "something else" I get what you see in the 2nd pic and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do http://imgur.com/a/ZU5l7
[04:40] <tomreyn> waltman: i'm not sure what to say. this seems to be one of your first installations using the ubuntu serve rinstaller, and you picked a somewhat complex configuration. with complexity comes proneness to error. it's not easy to get this stuff right, and usually won'T work at the first try, or first tries. reading up on how partitiojing is done in a uefi scenario with multiplke RAIDs and LVM before you tried it might have saved some time.
[04:41] <tomreyn> i can't tell OTOH what the issue is you are currently experiencing. you could try to siagnose and fix it from a live cd
[04:41] <tomreyn> (or live usb stick)
[04:41] <waltman> tomreyn: I've been at this for going on 12 hours. I did read up on raid and lvm before I started.
[04:42] <waltman> From my perspective it seems like there are 1000 special cases.
[04:42] <tomreyn> waltman: okay, that's good. it's not easy to get all of this right. i do this stuff for years and still don't usually get it done on the first try.
[04:42] <jrgilman> hey guys, I recently built a rig for my business partner and everything was great, just had issues with the graphics card (Rx 480 drivers etc) and some software so I'm looking to avoid that this go around for my new rig
[04:42] <jrgilman> anyone have a recommendation for an equivalent level graphics card that has good driver support
[04:43] <waltman> I've tried at least a dozen different configurations now. Each time it takes at least half an hour to setup, and you can't see what the installer's actually doing. It's incredibly frustrating.
[04:44] <tomreyn> i think there is an installer log file written while the installaiton takes place, you could access it by pressing ctrl-alt-f1 and logging in there (ctrl-at-f7 should return to the installer)
[04:44] <waltman> Plus half the time I can't even get it to boot from my flash drive instead of the hd.
[04:44] <tomreyn> the log file is, IIRC written to /var/log/install.log or /root/install.log once the installation completes
[04:45] <budder> i'm trying to install alongside windows and I'm not sure where to go from here. I partitioned 40GB from Windows disk management and this where I am stuck in the install http://imgur.com/a/ZU5l7
[04:47] <tomreyn> waltman: i can see how this can be frustrating. it's not unusual to hit such issues with complex configuraitons, though.
[04:49] <tomreyn> waltman: not because it's a shortcoming of linux, ubuntu or the installer (well, maybe in parts, it could be more polished here and there) but just doue to the overall complexity. are you setting this up for a hobby, for work, or just for testing / fun?
[04:49] <budder> y nobody help me
[04:49] <tomreyn> !repeat | budder
[04:50] <maxtype> question, is it possible to set a virtual pointing device (like a touch pad) to a static id?
[04:51] <budder> tomreyn: i'm trying to install alongside windows and I'm not sure where to go from here. I partitioned 40GB from Windows disk management and this where I am stuck in the install http://imgur.com/a/ZU5l7
[04:51] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I'm trying to help my brother remotely
[04:51] <cluelessperson> chromium-browser will not start in ubuntu
[04:51] <cluelessperson> I don't know why
[04:51] <budder> ubottu: i have searched and now my confusion lies in where to go from here
[04:51] <cluelessperson> I deleted  ~/.config/chromium   and ~/.cache/chromium
[04:51] <Random832> maxtype, id? like for xinput? you know you can just use the name right?
[04:51] <cluelessperson> reinstalled
[04:51] <cluelessperson> won't start
[04:51] <budder> ubottu: seriously?
[04:52] <tomreyn> budder: on the first prompt, just confirm
[04:52] <tomreyn> budder: yes, ubottu is just a bot indeed
[04:52] <budder> tomreyn: but i don't know what any of that means...
[04:52] <Aquaholic> Right - fixed @Tomreyn. Thank you very much for the help!
[04:53] <budder> tomreyn: the second window is if i select "something else" for install
[04:53] <tomreyn> budder: on the second screen, select the "free space"
[04:53] <tomreyn> ... "41944 MB"
[04:54] <cluelessperson> :/  anyone?
[04:54] <maxtype> Random832: I can? i've setup a 2 keyboard shortcuts one to enable one to disable  (xinput --enable 14), I can just use the name?
[04:54] <cluelessperson> apt-get purge chromium-browser
[04:54] <cluelessperson> apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:54] <tomreyn> budder: and /dev/sda for the boot loader
[04:54] <Random832> yes instead of 14 you can use like 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'
[04:55] <Random832> i've used this in my login scripts for disabling tap to click etc
[04:55] <tomreyn> budder: you shouldnt do "something else" though, "alongside windows" should just work fine
[04:55] <budder> tomreyn: but then i can't do anything. if I select dev/sda then I can click New Partition Table. that is all I can do on that screen
[04:55] <maxtype> Random832: neat, i'll give that a try :D thx ^5
[04:55] <xangua> cluelessperson: tried to run chromium browser from terminal and see what gives
[04:55] <xangua> ?
[04:55] <budder> tomreyn: okay the second screen is if I do "something else." the first screen is if I do "alongside Windows" but then i don't understand what any of that means
[04:56] <cluelessperson> xangua, installing now
[04:56] <cluelessperson> xangua,  /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser: error while loading shared libraries: libffmpeg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:57] <tomreyn> budder: okay, so the first screen, "alongside windows": there, the ubuntu installer automatically decides what it thinks is the best way to get ubuntu installed next to windows automatically. it then tells you what it is going to do, and asks whether you are okay with it.
[04:57] <xangua> cluelessperson: what Ubuntu release?
[04:58] <tomreyn> budder: what it plans to do is to create 2 new partitions, sda5 and sda6, botrh will be formatted, then ubuntu will be installe din sda5. sda6 will be swap.
[04:58] <cluelessperson> xangua, 16.10 Yakety
[04:58] <cluelessperson> xangua, just reinstalled ffmpeg
[04:58] <xangua> cluelessperson: I don't use chromium but usually install restricted extras and I see that installs video codecs for chromium
[04:58] <budder> tomreyn: what is the size of those? I shrunk 40gb while in windows disk management for ubuntu, and also i don't know how much it is planning to set for swap
[04:59] <tomreyn> budder: i couldn't tell fomr this output either, i think it will assign as much swap as you have RAM. and it will assign the rest of the largest unallocated space for ubuntu. i.e. it will consumke those 50 GB you made available.
[05:00] <tomreyn> * 40 GB
[05:00] <waltman> tomreyn: I'm a postdoc at Drexel in Philadelphia. We work with biologists to help then analyze 100s of gb of timelapse microscope data.
[05:00] <maxtype> like a champ, thx again !
[05:01] <tomreyn> budder: you could change this later by booting from the installer again, choosing to use the live system, and by searching starting gparted, which is a graphical utility similar to windows disk management, but it can handle linux file systems and resize them.
[05:01] <lburton> hey folks -- I hit a bit of an issue -- hitting a number of mirrors including what resolves for me for security.ubuntu.com I'm missing php7.0-fpm's security release example mirror: curl http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz | gunzip  | grep 7.0.8 | grep fpm
[05:02] <waltman> this is my lab: http://bioimage.coe.drexel.edu/mp/
[05:02] <tomreyn> waltman: great, i hope i didnt insult you then. ;) maybe tomorrow we can find some time to tra again if you like.
[05:03] <Peppernrino> so uh, i can't get 16.04 to update.
[05:03] <Peppernrino> it pings ubuntu and google fine. dns is good.
[05:03] <Peppernrino> Err:1 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[05:03] <Peppernrino>   Temporary failure resolving 'archive.canonical.com'
[05:03] <Peppernrino> keeps giving me things like that.
[05:03] <Ben64> "dns is good"  = false
[05:04] <Peppernrino> lol
[05:04] <Peppernrino> prove it
   Temporary failure resolving 'archive.canonical.com'
[05:04] <Peppernrino> what could be causing it you think
[05:04] <Peppernrino> ?
[05:04] <jrgilman> anyone here have experience with the GTX 1060 and ubuntu?
[05:04] <Ben64> probably a bad dns server
[05:05] <Peppernrino> oh maybe theirs... shit
[05:05] <kk4ewt> Peppernrino, check that address http://archive.canonical.com/
[05:05] <budder> tomreyn: okay so what do you suggest in the end, just accept the first option?
[05:06] <tomreyn> waltman: so ths is, amongst other, research into cancer - much appreciated. and so i'm willing to spend some time on this tomorrow if you like.
[05:06] <Peppernrino> kk4ewt: for what?
[05:06] <tomreyn> budder: yes
[05:06] <Peppernrino> tomreyn: do you know about BOINC?
[05:06] <waltman> tomreyn: Sure. I'm probably going to bed soon too.
[05:06] <tomreyn> budder: it's your first installation, go with the simple setting. you will be able to modify everything later on.
[05:07] <budder> tomreyn: alright thnx
[05:07] <kk4ewt> Peppernrino,  i dont see a /ubuntu
[05:07] <tomreyn> waltman: okay, try pinging me in some 8 or 10 hours
[05:07] <tomreyn> waltman: or during the 8 hours after that
[05:07] <waltman> This is interesting though. If I boot into the shell in the installer and look in /proc/partitions, I see sda, sda1 and sda2. In busybox I onlt see sda.
[05:08] <cluelessperson> Does anyone know how to support FLASH in chromium on ubuntu?
[05:08] <Peppernrino> there isn't a ubuntu. hm...
[05:08] <cluelessperson> apparently things are breaking everywhere
[05:08] <tomreyn> waltman: what the installer knows as sda and what the installed system knows as sda may be different disks / locations.
[05:09] <Peppernrino> http://archive.canonical.com/dists/xenial/
[05:09] <Peppernrino> :o
[05:09] <Peppernrino> ?
[05:09] <waltman> I did this so I found run fdisk and make sure the partitions were actually there.
[05:09] <tomreyn> waltman: if busybox only shows sda without partitions this suggests the installation didn't go right, however.
[05:10] <tomreyn> Peppernrino: i do know about BOINC, but let's not discuss it here unless it's related to ubuntu support. we can always talkin #ubuntu-pfftopic. although i'm about to rest.
[05:11] <Peppernrino> all good tomreyn
[05:11] <Peppernrino> kk4ewt: this should have worked then, no? : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-backports/
[05:11] <waltman> when I mount sda1, it says it's vfat, not fat32. also it's empty.
[05:12] <tomreyn> waltman: okay, i'm heading out, please keep the notes you made for tomorrow, you'll probably need to sum it all up again for me since i will have forgot much of it by then.
[05:13] <waltman> ok
[05:14] <tomreyn> waltman: i'll probably try to do the 'same' installation here in a VM tomorrow, this should make it easier to understand what you're looking at, and to learn where i failed, too. ;)
[05:14] <tomreyn> good night
[05:14] <simonealex> !list
[05:17] <yao_ziyuan> ubuntu 16.04 has wine-1.6. is it possible that it offers a higher version in the future?
[05:21] <Ben64> yao_ziyuan: no
[05:21] <yao_ziyuan> Ben64: thanks
[05:22] <yao_ziyuan> i'm currently in ubuntu 16.04 (upgraded from 15.10). it seems i can't find a perfect solution:
[05:22] <yao_ziyuan> (1) ubuntu 15.10 is vulnerable to that 0-day attack.
[05:22] <allen_> anybody using a Nividia Card with Steam? If so what card are you using?
[05:23] <yao_ziyuan> (2) ubuntu 16.04's wine (1.6, 1.9, or ubuntu-wine ppa's 1.8) can't run a program called Freegate. wine 1.8 CAN run Freegate in ubuntu 15.10 though.
[05:24] <yao_ziyuan> (3) ubuntu 16.10's wine (1.8.5) can run Freegate, but its Nautilus is premature (doesn't display external storage devices, removing a file from an external storage won't make it show up in Trash).
[05:25] <yao_ziyuan> probably i should go with ubuntu 16.10 with an alternative file manager (e.g. dolphin)?
[05:25] <ouyes> hey, guys is there any avalible command in ubuntu to print out the temperature of the nvidia card core?
[05:26] <yao_ziyuan> Freegate and Ultrasurf are what people use to cross the Great Firewall in China.
[05:26] <yao_ziyuan> i can run Ultrasurf in ubuntu 16.04 though.
[05:27] <ouyes> is it free yao_ziyuan
[05:28] <yao_ziyuan> ouyes: Ultrasurf? yes
[05:28] <yao_ziyuan> ouyes: so is Freegate
[05:28] <allen_> ouyes...good question...Hardinfo never shows the sensor temps
[05:29] <ouyes> allen_,  I want to write some code to record my card temp while running heavy general purpose computing on GPU.
[05:30] <allen_> I would like a program to even see the core temps
[05:30] <ouyes> yao_ziyuan, the funny thing is I can not even open the main page for ultrasurf
[05:32] <xangua> ouyes: tried lmsensors?
[05:33] <charlie2> Have a server I haven't touched for a long time showing me a 0 bytes available on hard drive.
[05:33] <yao_ziyuan> ouyes: https://ultrasurf.us/
[05:33] <charlie2> Tried deleting some log files and nothing happened.
[05:33] <charlie2> Any good ideas?
[05:34] <yao_ziyuan> ouyes: chinese official homepage: http://www.wujieliulan.com/
[05:34] <ouyes> yao_ziyuan, thank you dude.
[05:35] <NewYears> can someone help me with this? I get http://ix.io/1Opm when trying to run sudo apt-get install retroarch retroarch-* libretro-* 2>&1 | curl -sF 'f:1=<-' http://ix.io/
[05:35] <NewYears> sudo apt-get install retroarch retroarch-* libretro-* # sorry this is the command
[05:35] <charlie2> Here's my df - h command:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/23692705/
[05:35] <yao_ziyuan> ouyes: you need to cross the Firewall too?
[05:36] <ouyes> yao_ziyuan, it is nice to access google.com
[05:40] <Peppernrino> alright/
[05:40] <Peppernrino> so i changed the sources to mirrors, and i get this: Err:5 mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt xenial Release
[05:40] <Peppernrino>   No mirror file '/var/lib/apt/mirrors/mirrors.ubuntu.com_mirrors.txt' found  [Mirror: ]
[05:40] <Peppernrino> so, it's not dns
[05:40] <allen_> psensor works great
[05:40] <xangua> Peppernrino: changed mirrors from what?
[05:41] <Peppernrino> changed to mirrors from other sources.
[05:41] <ouyes> allen_, psensor is good
[05:41] <Peppernrino> to test if it was dns
[05:41] <Peppernrino> it's pinging fine. i'm ssh in...
[05:41] <Peppernrino> just can't update it.
[05:41] <Peppernrino> :(
[05:41] <ouyes> allen_, but I can not see which temp is the temp for nvidia core
[05:43] <allen_> its the third one down from the top
[05:44] <Peppernrino> can't download anything with wget
[05:44] <ouyes> allen_, thank you
[05:44] <allen_> i need to buy a better video card
[05:44] <allen_> dont know which one to get yet
[05:44] <Peppernrino> 1070
[05:45] <allen_> yeah right
[05:45] <Peppernrino> 1050ti then
[05:45] <allen_> aint got that kind of money
[05:45] <Peppernrino> i have several for sale.
[05:45] <Peppernrino> how badass are we talking here?
[05:45] <allen_> not that badass
[05:46] <allen_> i was thinking 750 ti
[05:46] <Peppernrino> go for the 1050 then... save the extra$20
[05:46] <Peppernrino> trust me
[05:46] <Peppernrino> i have both
[05:46] <allen_> you do a lot of gaming in ubuntu?
[05:47] <Peppernrino> just scientific calcs
[05:47] <ouyes> I got a hd 7970 and a gtx 960.
[05:47] <allen_> you know i never had any luck with AMD in Linux
[05:47] <ouyes> allen_,  gtx 960 can manage a lot of games
[05:48] <allen_> well anything would be better than what I got
[05:50] <ouyes> allen_,  you can get a second hand card and improve its heat spreading. Save you money but good performance
[05:55] <zartarr> Hi guys I'm having issues with steam, I installed it from the website, but whenever i double click it - nothing opens up
[05:55] <zartarr> it just vanishes
[05:57] <ur0> zartarr: try opening it via terminal.
[05:57] <zartarr> so ctrl+alt+t
[05:57] <zartarr> then what?
[05:58] <ur0> zartarr: just steam<enter>
[05:59] <redmatria> How do I adjust the brightenss of my monitor using Ubuntu?
[05:59] <zartarr> libgl errors, failed to load drivers
[05:59] <zartarr> its a bunch of large commands
[05:59] <redmatria> "The solution (so they say) is to set the monitor brightness level to 100% thus preventing any possible screen flicker from the DC modulation and instead adjust the brightness and contrast levels in your GPU settings."
[06:00] <redmatria> How do I adjust my GPU using Ubuntu?
[06:00] <zartarr> how would i pastebin this?
[06:00] <allen_> zartarr sounds like your missing some drivers for your video card
[06:00] <kostkon> !paste
[06:00] <allen_> library for glide missing
[06:01] <zartarr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23692783/
[06:01] <zartarr> there you go
[06:02] <wafflejock> redmatria, what desktop environment? are you using the default Unity?
[06:02] <zartarr> I actually am using an old thinkpad x200, its got GMA integrated drivers, and when I go into settings on Ubuntu I don't see any option to install more/additional drivers
[06:02] <redmatria> wafflejock, No, MATE.
[06:02] <allen_> i965 integrated
[06:03] <wafflejock> redmatria, appears there's an extra package for it http://askubuntu.com/questions/537137/fn-keys-cant-adjust-brightness-mate-desktop
[06:03] <allen_> go to repositorys
[06:03] <Zombie> I need assistance packaging Spectrum 2 For Ubuntu.
[06:03] <wafflejock> redmatria, regarding the graphics card I believe if you have nvidia graphics and use the "additional drivers" application to install drivers you can run nvidia-settings to launch their GPU settings
[06:03] <zartarr> as in Ubuntu Software Centre?
[06:03] <Zombie> I am having an issue with the fact that it uses old MySQL and not Maria DB
[06:04] <allen_> yes
[06:04] <zartarr> alright sir, I am here
[06:04] <allen_> what ubuntu u using?
[06:04] <zartarr> Ubuntu 16.10
[06:04] <zartarr> Unity desktop, like your default thingy you download
[06:04] <redmatria> wafflejock, I have integrated Intel graphics.
[06:05] <allen_> at the top of the page you should see settings
[06:05] <allen_> click on that and come down to repositorys
[06:06] <allen_> you should see a tab that says additional drivers
[06:06] <allen_> ive got 16.
[06:06] <allen_> 16.04
[06:06] <allen_> but i would think it should be same
[06:06] <wafflejock> redmatria, ah intel does have some stuff on https://01.org/ but anything you download/install from outside the repos isn't supported here so it's use/install at your own risk if you get it from there, they may have some of the intel packages in the main repos too though not sure
[06:07] <zartarr> allen_: use processor microcode .... thats all there is there
[06:07] <zartarr> allen_: nothing to do with Intel Integrated Graphics
[06:07] <wafflejock> redmatria, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=intel&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all
[06:07] <allen_> uhhh hmmm that means no another driver to use
[06:07] <allen_> what driver you using?
[06:08] <zartarr> GMA 4500 I believe is my graphics card. It's an old Thinkpad X200 - I didn't install any drivers.
[06:08] <allen_> i bet its not a supported card with steam
[06:08] <allen_> but run hardinfo from terminal
[06:09] <weston> hi guys
[06:09] <weston> Anybody aware of the nbd-client 3.11 availability as a deb package?
[06:10] <weston> I just wanted to install it into my 14.04 machine
[06:10] <wafflejock> !info nbd-client trusty
[06:11] <wafflejock> weston, looks like 3.7? so I guess no?
[06:11] <wafflejock> !info nbd-client xenial
[06:12] <weston> wafflejock: bug in 3.7 which is causing download issues.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/1578185
[06:13] <wafflejock> weston, yeah figured you were asking cause of some issue in that version but if it's not in the repos not really supported here... you can look up the build flags for a given package though and can try rebuilding a newer version of the code yourself if you can't find a prepackaged one you can trust, PPAs and 3rd party stuff isn't supported here though since it can have side effects
[06:14] <wafflejock> weston, or you can bump up to xenial if that's an option then get 3.13 there
[06:15] <weston> wafflejock: thank you...but I dont understand the xenial stuf..any links?
[06:15] <wafflejock> weston, oh it's just version 16.04
[06:15] <redmatria> www.testufo.com/blurtrail#foreground=FFFFFF&background=000000&thickness=1&height=480&ppf=64&separation=1000
[06:16] <wafflejock> weston, it's the LTS release that came out in 2016 so if you upgrade from 14.04 you'd have new repositories that have the 3.13 version of nbd-client
[06:16] <weston> wafflejock: sorry, my OS has many dependencies with customer stuff
[06:16] <redmatria> Do you see multiple lines here?
[06:16] <weston> wafflejock: where I can get source of this 3.13 ?
[06:16] <weston> I will compile it
[06:17] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I upgraded ubuntu and now Steam will not start
[06:17] <cluelessperson> do you know how to restart the dependency installer?
[06:17] <zartarr> my steam won't start period
[06:19] <cluelessperson> I'm getting "libgl error"
[06:19] <cluelessperson> unable to load driver
[06:19] <cluelessperson> so stpuid
[06:19] <tenX> cluelessperson: what is stupid
[06:19] <wafflejock> weston, you can see the sources on the right side here http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/nbd-client http://askubuntu.com/questions/48499/where-can-i-find-the-configure-options-used-to-build-a-package << remember though YMMV and on your own supporting that then people here will yell at me for showing you where to go :)
[06:19] <zartarr> hey guys how do i navigate here: "~/.steam/steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/"
[06:20] <zartarr> according to a website I need to delete something there
[06:20] <cluelessperson> tenX, That steam ships dependencies seperated from the app
[06:20] <cluelessperson> tenX, So when ubuntu upgrades, it doesn't bother with those depencies, and steam no longer works
[06:21] <weston> wafflejock: thank you
[06:21] <allen_> you will have to log in as root...then start at root folder
[06:21] <most> is there a true random number generator for ubuntu?
[06:21] <most> i need a very high degree of randomness
[06:22] <allen_> and i dont think im supposed to reccomend that either
[06:22] <most> something better than atmospheric noise, if i exists
[06:22] <trololol> Hi everybody. I have already asked this here but i'm a little bit desperate. I keep getting internal error messages related to dbus, gnome and nautilus restart, freezes and sometimes it renders the os unusable :(
[06:23] <tenX> cluelessperson: ok i see that is annoying. but stupid..
[06:23] <zartarr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/771032/steam-not-opening-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[06:23] <zartarr> that seems to be a good solution to steam issue but looks like jibberish to me
[06:25] <Zombie> How do I file an actual official Packaging Requests?
[06:26] <allen_> good night all...thanks for the conversation
[06:26] <yao_ziyuan> i just installed dolphin on a fresh ubuntu 16.10, but it shows no icons. which package do i need for kde icons?
[06:26] <hateball> yao_ziyuan: depends on the theme you've set, probably breeze
[06:27] <hateball> !info breeze-icon-theme
[06:32] <yao_ziyuan> hateball: i just installed breeze and some other themes but still not ok. i think i should install the kde program that sets the current theme too. what's the package for that program?
[06:36] <hateball> yao_ziyuan: not sure, think that kcm is just part of the plasma-desktop
[06:36] <hateball> yao_ziyuan: I run Kubuntu so everything is already setup for me :p
[07:08] <graha> hallo
[07:09] <graha> man irssi
[07:09] <drjam> hi to you too
[07:16] <ducasse> good morning all
[07:19] <redmatria> I am also looking for a new monitor that is very easy on my eyes.
[07:19] <redmatria> My current one bugs my eyes. Apparently a low haze or glossy screen can reduce eye strain.
[07:20] <drjam> have you tried gunnar optics?
[07:22] <drjam> just found out they MAY be useful for people with lixdexia
[07:22] <drjam> so, double good reason to ahve them
[07:29] <zona-g4lau> hy
[07:35] <zona-g4lau> apa ada orang indonesia?
[07:36] <EriC^^> !indonesia | zona-g4lau
[07:37] <zona-g4lau> siap
[07:41] <redmatria> I'm looking for a GLOSSY monitor. Why are these so rare nowadays?
[07:41] <zartarr> guys im stuck on playing a game on dota "Failed to create an OpenGL context. Your graphics card must support at least OpenGL v3.1"
[07:42] <zartarr> I am on a GMA 4500HD integrated on laptop
[07:42] <LinuxNovice> hello...
[07:42] <weston> wafflejock: Thank you so much.. it is working...appreciated your timely support
[07:43] <wafflejock> weston, ah no problem glad you were able to get it working
[07:43] <weston> wafflejock: :)
[07:43] <LinuxNovice> what's the difference between Ubuntu and Lubuntu? Is it only the DE that is different or the packages selected also are significantly different?
[07:44] <xangua> LinuxNovice: Ubuntu is Ubuntu
[07:44] <hateball> LinuxNovice: It's only a matter of preinstalled packages
[07:44] <xangua> ! Flavors
[07:44] <LinuxNovice> I mean, the packages available in Lubunt software centre vis a vis Ubuntu software centre.
[07:44] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: they share repositories, so the same packages in each.
[07:45] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: that said, if you install a GTK program, it's going to pull in all the GTK dependencies, etc.  But everything is available.
[07:45] <Markos> window stick off
[07:45] <Markos> oops
[07:45] <Markos> ;>
[07:46] <LinuxNovice> what is GTK?
[07:46] <EriC^^> a tool kit for making gui stuff
[07:46] <LinuxNovice> I am a beginner in Linux.
[07:46] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[07:46] <wafflejock> LinuxNovice, gnome-toolkit it's a set of libraries for making graphical stuff namely for gnome
[07:47] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: The different desktops may use different libraries for making GUIs.  In order to run programs designed for those libraries, you need to have the libraries installed (obviously).
[07:48] <redmatria> I found this thread on glossy screens. https://hardforum.com/threads/the-new-glossy-ah-ips-dell-s2415h.1836144/
[07:48] <redmatria> I had a glossy NEC screen years back. It was beautiful.
[07:48] <LinuxNovice> is it pre installed in Lubuntu or Ubuntu or any of its flavours?
[07:48] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: If you go mixing programs from significantly different desktop environments, you may end up with many graphics libraries.  It's not the end of the world, but it uses more disk space (and other resources).
[07:49] <wafflejock> redmatria, personal opinion but think matte screens probably do better since so many laptops/portable devices and working with glossy in the sun is no fun (excuse the rhyme)
[07:49] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: Ignore what I was syaing about GTK, it was an example, and at your point, the specific details aren't important.
[07:49] <redmatria> wafflejock, For a desktop glossy really reduces eyestrain based on what I am reading.
[07:49] <LinuxNovice> Do I have to restrict myself to those packages available in Lubuntu Software Centre if I am using Lubuntu?
[07:49] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: No.
[07:50] <redmatria> wafflejock, HP now has a "low haze" option on some of its screens.
[07:50] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: You can mix and match all you'd like.  You can even install Lubuntu and then turn it into Ubuntu (or vice versa), or half and half, or whatever.  Because they're all the same package repositories.
[07:50] <LinuxNovice> ok. I can install Ubuntu Software Centre  and get the packages I want from there too, then.
[07:51] <xangua> I find synaptic better
[07:51] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: Lubuntu Software Center and Ubuntu Software Center have the same packages.
[07:51] <LinuxNovice> ok
[07:52] <LinuxNovice> ok. I'll try synaptic also.
[07:52] <root_> zona-galau
[07:52] <LinuxNovice> how can I make redshift work on Lubuntu?
[07:53] <LinuxNovice> I want it to transition the brightness according to the time of the day.
[07:53] <xangua> Sudo apt install redshift-gtk
[07:53] <zona-galau> bang kok gk ad orang ya di ubuntu-id
[07:53] <LinuxNovice> or can I use f.lux on Ubuntu or Lubuntu?
[07:54] <xangua> 1:53 AM <xangua> Sudo apt install redshift-gtk
[07:55] <LinuxNovice> does it have all the features of f.lux?
[07:55] <kiwi_> hi... on 12.04 i've been using a tiny script (https://paste.ubuntu.com/23693077/) to toggle SECONDS ON for the clock in the gnome classic desktop panel. the script doesnt work on 16.04. any ideas?
[07:56] <cfhowlett> kiwi_, because 16.04 uses unity not gnome on the desktop
[07:57] <redmatria> Which day will have the best electronics deals?
[07:57] <kiwi_> cfhowlett, i'm using gnome classic (flashback) on 16.04
[07:57] <xangua> LinuxNovice: I don't know what flux features are, but redshift it's already in the repositor
[07:57] <redmatria> Boxing day is when?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> redmatria, ask google - this is ubuntu support.
[07:58] <LinuxNovice> ok
[07:58] <LinuxNovice> in just installed redshift.
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !id | zona-galau
[08:00] <LinuxNovice> thanks guys, for your help.
[08:01] <redmatria> "My unit came with some major dithering, easily visible to the naked eye."
[08:01] <redmatria> What does this mean?
[08:01] <hateball> redmatria: you could ask in ##hardware
[08:04] <redmatria> I need to registered to talk in there and don't feel like registering right now.
[08:14] <ducasse> redmatria: then google it, in here we do ubuntu support
[08:16] <onboard> M96 ati driver who know ta
[08:24] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> I've the same scanner problem with this, tried all suggested solutions but none of them allowed my user or even root to use the scanner http://superuser.com/questions/298298/scanning-only-works-under-sudo-ubuntu
[08:24] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> anyother suggestions?
[08:30] <egsome> After simple boot to my months ago installed Ubuntu, I found no mouse is there ! tried multiple solutions on the forums, one of them was installing gdm, once I did and rebooted, I'm always stuck at the Ubuntu logo while booting, with no more progress !
[08:31] <egsome> Booted into the resuce mode and dropped to root shell, but can't uninstall gdm, as apt always tell that it is in read only mode and can't get a lock or something like that.
[08:34] <xangua> egsome: is this a recertified HDD?
[08:35] <egsome> xangua, It is a Dell laptop, which -originially- had Ubuntu installed.
[08:36] <xangua> Is it a refurbished one?
[08:36] <egsome> xangua, No.
[08:37] <xangua> I installed back in February Ubuntu in a "new box", after turning it on recently started to show similar issues you described and found out not all its components were new (recertified HDD)
[08:37] <redmatrics> any benefit to using DP to HDMI instead of HDMI to HDMI?
[08:37] <redmatrics> DP from my computer to HDMI on my monitor.
[08:38] <egsome> xangua, Really ?!
[08:42] <redmatrics> Are you using the HDMI input? I had the same problems with the muted, washed out colors so I tried VGA and the difference was amazing. For some reason this monitor does not like HDMI. I'm using this monitor right now with VGA and everything is vibrant and bright, no flickering.
[08:42] <redmatrics> Any ideas why VGA would improve picture vs HDMI?
[08:46] <abijma> goodmorning, i have a question about php and openssl update to newer version on Ubuntu 12.04
[08:46] <abijma> i have 2 questions about ubuntu 12.04. i have apache 2.2.22 on ubuntu. i was using php 5.4.45 and now installed 5.6. Ubuntu console gives for command php -ver version 5.6 but phpinfo in webbrowser gives 5.4.45 so apache is still using the old version. how can i change that?
[08:46] <abijma> likely same problem i have with openssl. console gives that i'm using open ssl 1.0.2j but apache(curl) is still using 1.0.1
[08:47] <kubur4an> ad orang indonesia kh??
[08:48] <ikevin> abijma, do you have restarted apache after the php update?
[08:49] <abijma> yup i did
[08:50] <ikevin> abijma, what is the version of the package libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[08:52] <abijma> how do i check that?
[08:52] <ikevin> dpkg -l libapache2-mod-php5
[08:52] <kiwi_> hi... i just installed the mate desktop packages on ubuntu 16.04. But the display manager (login) shows no option for choosing a MATE seesion. any ideas?
[08:53] <xangua> kiwi_: how did you install mate?
[08:54] <abijma> i installed using: add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php
[08:54] <abijma> libapache2-mod 5.4.45-4+depre server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
[08:54] <xangua> abijma: don't know what that repository is for, but mate is already in Ubuntu repositories
[08:55] <xangua> Oh sorry, got confused
[08:56] <abijma> by the way how do i send a message in this chat prefixed by some username? so kind of @[username] ?!
[08:56] <kiwi_> xangua, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/xenial-mate (update, dist-upgrade) and then installed the mate-desktop 1.14 via synaptic
[09:03]  * INDONESIA
[09:03] <kiwi_> using gnome flashback on 16.04, where is the setting SHOW_SECONDS for the panel clock stored? it used to be /apps/panel3-applets/   but that doesnt seem to be the case, anymore (?)
 libapache2-mod 5.4.45-4+depre server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag <== you need to upgrade this package too
[09:05] <Slown> Hello
[09:05] <Slown> I installed adminer on ubuntu 16.04
[09:05] <Slown> but I can't access the web page
[09:05] <Slown> what's the problem ?
 how can i do that?
[09:06] <ikevin> abijma, try: apt-get install --only-upgrade libapache2-mod-php5
[09:08] <efazati> Hi, I have server without internet... i want install vlan but this package need iproute2... iproute2 conflict with arpd ... how can fix this?
 i then get message most recent version already installed
[09:11] <Jeni870> "Are you using the HDMI input? I had the same problems with the muted, washed out colors so I tried VGA and the difference was amazing. For some reason this monitor does not like HDMI. I'm using this monitor right now with VGA and everything is vibrant and bright, no flickering."
[09:11] <Jeni870> anyone know why this might be?
[09:11] <ikevin> abijma, it look like your ppa does not provide the apache2 module
[09:12] <JP____> G'morning all
[09:12] <JP____> I wanna make ubuntu boot into a QT application
[09:12] <JP____> How?
[09:12] <JP____> Like, without seeing a bootloader etc
[09:12] <JP____> Or custom bootloader :drool:
[09:13] <egsome> Why would my Ubuntu boot in read-only filesystem mode, when I press Ctrl + Alt + F1 while booting and login ?
[09:13] <JP____> Why would you press Ctrl-Alt-F1?
 i used ppa ondrej/php to install new php version. should i change that again?
[09:14] <egsome> JP____, As I installed lightgdm, and it make my boot stuck at the Ubuntu logo. I'm trying to dpkg-reconfigure it.
[09:14] <JP____> egsome: do you have grub installed?
[09:14] <egsome> JP____, Sure.
[09:14] <JP____> Well there is an option in grub, advanced ubuntu options
[09:15] <JP____> I think there is a dpkg tool there
[09:15] <JP____> Have you ever seen the advanced options option?
[09:16] <egsome> Tried it, but it is just for fixing broken packages, and when drop to root shell through Grub, it is again read-only, as I remember.
[09:16] <ikevin> abijma, if you find a ppa that provide libapache-mod-php5 yes
[09:16] <JP____> And...... Gone
 but especially it should provide support for php5.6 right?
[09:17] <ikevin> abijma, it depend of the lib version
[09:17] <JP____> Where can i find super-ubuntu guru's?
 ok i understand, so there is not a difference in name of the file but i need to check the version
[09:22] <AdolfBieber> so I want my CPU to automatically decrease frequency when idle, but it doesn't, I have 1.6GHz Atom netbook and in idle it drops frequency automatically to 1.0GHz, but on PC with Core2Duo 1.8GHz its doesn't drops it its always 1.8GHz, what could be the reason, on both computers cpufreq-info shows: "available cpufreq governors: ondemand, userspace", so they have both "ondemand", any thoughts ? so it
[09:22] <AdolfBieber> has: "available frequency steps: 1.80 GHz, 1.20 GHz" but it doesn't drops to 1.2GHz, its always 1.8GHz
[09:23] <JP____> AdolfBieber: if you try to change the CPU frequency using cpufreq, does it work?
[09:23] <AdolfBieber> it works if I do it by hand
[09:23] <AdolfBieber> cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 1200000
[09:23] <JP____> Ah so the CPU does support variable frequency
[09:24] <JP____> And you can change governors?
[09:24] <AdolfBieber> yes I said it has: "available frequency steps: 1.80 GHz, 1.20 GHz"
[09:25] <JP____> My other laptop only supported certain governors
[09:31] <efazati> Hi, I have server without internet... i want install vlan but this package need iproute2... iproute2 conflict with arpd ... how can fix this?
[09:34] <bazhang> efazati, packages.ubuntu.com
[09:34] <efazati> @bazhang http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/vlan
[09:35] <bazhang> get a usb stick and then install efazati
[09:36] <efazati> @bazhang i did same... but when use dpkg -i vlan; dpkg said install iproute2 ... when use dpkg -i iproute2; dpkg said iproute2 has conflict with arpd ...
[09:37] <bazhang> efazati, the packages should list all the dependencies needed
[09:37] <bazhang> ie the website
[09:38] <zhang_> 什么
[09:38] <zhang_> 说汉语
[09:38] <efazati> @bazhang .... yes; i use those package. but i have conflict error. how fix that
[09:40] <bazhang> efazati, I would try to ask in #ubuntu-server , and be patient as this is holidays, and less active
[09:41] <bazhang> efazati, the more details, such as an error paste of the exact details on what the conflict is would help as well
[09:42] <zhang_> 有人在吗
[09:42] <bazhang> zhang_, here is english, chinese in #ubuntu-cn
[09:44] <Kartagis> what package to install for sharing under 16.04?
[09:44] <Kartagis> !cn | zhang_
 weird, i don't understand. i did something similar to what is described here: http://rodush.com/en/2016/01/solved-upgrading-from-php-5-5-to-php-5-6-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts/ and it says that libapache2-mod-php5 should also be updated. i cannot remember if i got that message also.. but you could assume that that PPA does support the 5.6 version
[09:51] <abijma> of this package
 you agree with that assumption? any ideas if i can check some extra things?
[09:52] <bazhang> abijma, is that your question for the channel
[09:53] <youreacun>
[09:53] <mmalakchi> Hi. I have tried to install i3WM for my linux Desktop. And probably during installation I switched to different repository.
[09:53] <ikevin> abijma, https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php <== there no libapache-mod-php package
[09:54] <mmalakchi> I have such line: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security InRelease
[09:54] <ikonia> mmalakchi: how did you switch to a different repo mid install
[09:54] <ikonia> mmalakchi: thats not really possible
[09:54] <mmalakchi> How switch back to default repository?
[09:54] <ikonia> mmalakchi: the repo data is held in cache, so you'd need to terminate the install and update the cache then restart the install
[09:54] <ikonia> mmalakchi: why do you think you are not using the default ubuntu repos
[09:55] <youreacun> Dont be a retard
[09:55] <mmalakchi> because I receive errors after apt update command
[09:55] <ikonia> mmalakchi: ok - pastebin the errors
[09:56] <mmalakchi> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/midori/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file.
[09:56] <mmalakchi> Err:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/midori/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release
[09:56] <mmalakchi>   404  Not Found
[09:56] <ikonia> mmalakchi: ok, so there are two things here a.) have you insalled anything from that repo
[09:56] <mmalakchi> yes
[09:56] <ikonia> mmalakchi: b.) do you need that repo for anything
[09:56] <ikonia> mmalakchi: what did you install ?
 mm ok i get confused this way... ;-) any idea where i could find a ppa with the new apache module?
[09:57] <ikevin> abijma, try: apt-cache search libapache2-mod-php5.6 if you have some results
[09:57] <ikonia> abijma: I stronlgy advise against using a PPA
 thing is i rather would not yet upgrade to new distribution and then PPA is only way isn't it?
[09:58] <stark_> hello is this ubuntu support channel?
[09:58] <quackgyver> Yes.
[09:58] <mmalakchi> ikonia: I think I don't need this repository anymore. I have installed i3WM for Linux Desktop. from site devpy.me
[09:58] <ikonia> mmalakchi: did you install anything from this repo
 apt-cache search libapache2-mod-php5.6
[09:59] <stark_> i was kicked out of linux mint help....i was banned...how can i rejoin it?
[09:59] <mmalakchi> ikonia: yes I did I told you
 libapache2-mod-php5.6 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (Apache 2 module)
 <ikevin> thing is i rather would not yet upgrade to new distribution and then PPA is only way isn't it? <== you can compile php yourself
 php5.6-fpm - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (FPM-CGI binary)
[09:59] <ikonia> mmalakchi: what did you install
[09:59] <ikevin> abijma, ok, do: apt-get remove --purge libapache2-mod-php5 && apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5.6
[10:00] <stark_> i was kicked out of linux mint help....i was banned...how can i rejoin it?
[10:00] <stark_> please someone tell
[10:00] <ikonia> stark_: talk to their operators
 compile myself i never did before. this looked like easiest way....
[10:00] <mmalakchi> ikonia: I can paste command here if you want
[10:00] <ikonia> abijma: that is a terrible idea
[10:00] <ikonia> mmalakchi: just tell me what you installed
[10:00] <stark_> i am blocked .....how can i talk?
[10:00] <ikonia> mmalakchi: not looking for the command
[10:00] <ikevin> stark_, you need to wait to be unban
[10:00] <ikonia> stark_: pm the operators
[10:00] <ikonia> stark_: use spotchat help
[10:00] <stark_> ok
[10:00] <mmalakchi> ikonia: I have installed --> i3
[10:01] <stark_> but no need now..i switched to ubuntu
[10:01] <stark_> and ubuntu is better than linux mint
[10:01] <ikonia> mmalakchi: ok - so you need to be aware if you just remove this repo it may cause you problems
[10:01] <ikonia> mmalakchi: as you have software and dependencies that expect this repo to be there
[10:01] <ikonia> mmalakchi: I suggest you look at the ppa-purge command BEFORE you remove the repo
[10:01] <stark_> when i log into ubuntu dialog box appears saying system program problem detected!
[10:02] <Gegsite> yo, in 16.04 there is a unity tweak tool, today I noticed that it wont make any animation (min,max) anymore, tho I checked in the tweak settings....
[10:02] <stark_> when i log into ubuntu dialog box appears saying system program problem detected!
[10:02] <stark_> when i log into ubuntu dialog box appears saying system program problem detected!
[10:03] <ikonia> you said that
[10:03] <stark_> someone...
 now i get error
[10:03] <ikevin> abijma, which error?
[10:04] <stark_> someone please answer my quesstion
[10:04] <ikonia> stark_: you've not asked a question
[10:04] <mmalakchi> ikonia: Thank You! Well i think I want to see how looks this i3. and after that I want switch back to default repository
libapache2-mod-php5.6 is not installable
[10:04] <stark_> when i log into ubuntu dialog box appears saying system program problem detected!
[10:04] <stark_> when i log into ubuntu dialog box appears saying system program problem detected!
[10:04] <stark_> thats my question
 i need to translate it from dutch:)
[10:04] <ikonia> mmalakchi: ok - so you need to look at the ppa-purge command as I said
[10:04] <bazhang> no need to post so quickly stark_
[10:04] <ikonia> stark_: thats not a question
[10:05] <ikevin> abijma, can you pastbin the entire apt error?
[10:05] <stark_> ok...sorry...but what about that error?
[10:05] <Gegsite> How can I trace or find out why dont make unity animations anymore?
[10:05] <abijma> https://thepasteb.in/p/qjhLK4W83EwsB
[10:05] <ikonia> stark_: it is impossible to fix that error without more information
[10:05] <stark_> what information you need?
[10:06] <stark_> i am ready to give
[10:06] <Ben64> stark_: you havent pasted the error
[10:06] <stark_> how to paste?
[10:06] <Ben64> http://paste.ubuntu.com
 php is currently not working on my apache server
[10:06] <ikevin> abijma, apt-cache search apache2-api-20120211
[10:06] <ikevin> abijma, this is due to libapache2-mod-php5 uninstallation
[10:06] <stark_> what do i have to paste in this link?
[10:07] <ikevin> abijma, you need to remove the old version to install the new one
[10:07] <magicDave> what would be the uri for the stream? wiki seems to be down.
[10:07] <mmalakchi> ikonia: I'm not proffesional Linux user, but i will look into this command. Thank you!
 https://thepasteb.in/p/MjhxMol2RPrCV
[10:08] <diskin> how to see currently loaded options for xorg? I found an advice to run "sudo X :2 -configure" to produce an xorg.conf.new file, but the file does not contain the options I know are in the config file...
[10:08] <ikonia> diskin: that creates a new blank file
[10:08] <ikonia> diskin: the running options are dynamic, you can see them loaded in the log
[10:09] <stark_> my answer to question please
[10:09] <stark_> what do i have to paste in this link?
 can you support me in how to remove old version(s)?
[10:09] <diskin> ikonia, I see, thanks.
[10:09] <ikevin> abijma, old version has been removed with "apt-get remove --purge libapache2-mod-php5"
[10:10] <ikevin> abijma, i see you maybe need to upgrade apache too
[10:10] <Ben64> stark_: the actual error, anything that would allow your problem to be solved
[10:11] <stark_> pk
[10:11] <stark_> *OK
[10:11] <ikevin> abijma, try adding this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/apache2
[10:11] <ikevin> abijma, and upgrade to apache2.4
[10:11] <stark_> also someone please tell me how to install wine(stable version) in ubuntu
[10:11] <ikevin> abijma, then, you will be able to install libapache2-mod-php5.6
 ok i will try.. indeed still using 2.2 i can imagine i need to upgrade to 2.4
[10:12] <Ben64> why ppa apache?
[10:13] <ikevin> abijma, yes, and probably adapt some apache settings
[10:13] <Ben64> sounds like a good way to mess stuff up
[10:13] <ikonia> Ben64: already told them this
[10:13] <ikonia> Ben64: it seems to be going down a mission to wreck the install, culminating in custom compiled
[10:14] <Ben64> oh well
[10:14] <stark_> also someone please tell me how to install wine(stable version) in ubuntu
[10:14] <stark_> also someone please tell me how to install wine(stable version) in ubuntu
[10:14] <Ben64> stark_: that's the perfect way to never get help
[10:15] <stark_> ohhh...please i am in need
[10:15] <stark_> help me
[10:15] <ikevin> apt-get install wine
[10:15] <stark_> iKevin:it did not work
[10:16] <cfhowlett> stark_, sudo apt  install wine
 may'be i missed something.. i added that ppa and did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
 restarted apache2 but stil apache2 -ver gives Apache/2.2.22
[10:22] <ikevin> abijma, try: apt-cache search apache2.4
[10:22] <budder> just installed ubuntu alongside windows 10 but i can't choose OS at boot... "press Enter to interrupt normal startup
[10:22] <budder> "
[10:22] <budder> doesn't work. just loads OS
 done, still same result
[10:23] <ikevin> abijma, does "apt-cache search apache2" show you a 2.4 version?
 https://thepasteb.in/p/WnhzRpkwrAXfV
[10:24] <ikevin> abijma, does "apt-cache search apache2" show you a 2.4 version?
[10:24] <zhang_> 什么啊
 no
[10:24] <bazhang> !cn | zhang_
[10:25] <zhang_>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:25] <dikiaap> lol
[10:25] <zhang_> 什么
[10:25] <dikiaap> bazhang: are you from China too?
[10:26] <ikevin> abijma, can you pastbin the result of: apt-cache policy apache2
[10:26] <zhang_>  /join #ubuntu-tw
[10:26] <bazhang> zhang_, here is english
[10:26] <bazhang> zhang_, no space before the /
 https://thepasteb.in/p/nZhlAy5MkrOiY
[10:27] <ikevin> abijma, apt-get update && apt-get install --only-upgrade apache2
mm not yet..
 see here output in pastebin https://thepasteb.in/p/0ghJqE8o1APT5
[10:31] <ikevin> abijma, humm, you need to upgrade all apache package, you can try with apt-get dist-upgrade
 https://thepasteb.in/p/NxhVDnR27ZQsN
[10:35] <ikevin> abijma, can you pastbin all the upgrade texte?
 https://thepasteb.in/p/MjhxMol7n20SV
[10:36] <Darkchaos> Short question: Doesn't Ubuntu have a bluescreen some sort of? Since I produced a nullpointer dereference in my driver but the system just froze (probably outputted the panic message and then got stuck). How can I see such messages in the future?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> Darkchaos, search your logs
[10:37] <ikevin> abijma, apt-get remove --purge apache2* && apt-get install apache2
[10:38] <bmy001> #join #ubuntu
 https://thepasteb.in/p/98hRLZ1W035sk
[10:41] <WeiJunLi> those segfaults are due that _libc_fork assertion? http://dpaste.com/04CVHQY
[10:42] <ikevin> abijma, this is the errors you have when doing apt-get remove --purge apache2* ?
[10:42] <pjm6> Good morning
[10:42] <abijma> yes
[10:42] <pjm6> I have a doubt, with Ubuntu 16.04 the iptables-persistent.service don't exist anymore?
[10:42] <abijma> including && apt-get install apache2
[10:42] <pjm6> IIRC the Ubuntu 14.04 had the service that allows to reload / stop iptables rules saved
[10:43] <ikevin> abijma, can you pastbin a result of dpkg -l | grep apache2
[10:43] <blackflow> pjm6: install the package, iptables-persistent
 https://thepasteb.in/p/O7h5zPGzzzMsq
[10:44] <pjm6> blackflow, I already installed
[10:44] <pjm6> but when I do
[10:44] <pjm6> systemctl restart iptables-persistent
[10:44] <pjm6> or service iptables-persistent restart
[10:44] <blackflow> pjm6: oh, it's a plugin to netfilter-persistent
[10:44] <blackflow> .service
[10:44] <pjm6> it doesn't exists
[10:44] <Niko2> hey guys! is there a way to install qtstalker in ubuntu 15.10? :)
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !15.10 | Nik05_
[10:44] <hateball> Niko2: 15.10 is EOL
[10:45] <ikevin> abijma, apt-get remove --purge apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin pache2.2-common
[10:45] <ikevin> apache2.2-common*
[10:45] <Niko2> hateball, EOL?
[10:45] <blackflow> pjm6: found it?
[10:45] <Niko2> sorry
[10:45] <Niko2> got it
[10:45] <cfhowlett> it's deak, niko2
[10:45] <cfhowlett> dead
[10:45] <pjm6> blackflow, i tried it, like systemctl stop netfilter-persistent
[10:45] <blackflow> it's dead, Jim.
[10:45] <pjm6> but the iptables rules are
[10:45] <Niko2> gotcha :) thanks all!
[10:46] <hateball> Niko2: end of life, upgrade to 16.04
[10:46] <blackflow> pjm6: first of all, please use single whole sentences, don't break into many smaller posts, there's enough traffic and noise here even without it :)
[10:47] <blackflow> pjm6: second, check the manpage of netfilter-persistent, then check the iptables plugin in /usr/share/netfilter-persistent/plugins.d  to see what it does when commanded by netfilter service, and check /etc/default/netfilter-persistent  for more config info.
 https://thepasteb.in/p/AnhrLmYA6E2Fv
 restart apache service gives "unrecognized service"
[10:48] <ikevin> abijma, ok, good, now: apt-get install apache2
 https://thepasteb.in/p/1jhn2jRGQvYHB
[10:50] <ikevin> abijma, apache2 -ver ?
[10:51] <pjm6> blackflow, i will be back, must reboot
[10:52] <abijma> Server version: Apache/2.4.25 (Ubuntu)
 looks good! Server version: Apache/2.4.25 (Ubuntu)
[10:52] <ikevin> abijma, good, now: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5.6
[10:54] <chx> I am trying to replace my ubuntu provided nginx with the nginx provided one , how could i do this with minimal / no downtime?
[10:55] <maret> hi everyone anyone having a problem with Printer X added notification popups in Ubuntu Gnome? It seems that in some random times I get notification about some(I guess network) printer being added over and over...
[10:55] <cfhowlett> chx, get the readme/instructions from nginx.  read and follow closely.
[10:55] <chx> Sigh. https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/start/topics/tutorials/install/ this has nothing on this stiuation.
ok and next?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> chx, that page explicitly describes how to install on ubuntu.  what more do you need?
[10:57] <chx> I am trying to replace my ubuntu provided nginx with the nginx provided one , how could i do this with minimal / no downtime?
[10:57] <chx> that.
[10:57] <ikevin> abijma, now check if phpinfo show you the correct version
[10:57] <chx> apt-get install nginx errors out with  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/nginx/html/index.html', which is also in package nginx-common 1.10.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:57] <chx> i am afraid that if i apt-get remove nginx-common nginx-core then it'll stop the nginx daemon.
[10:58] <chx> which is exactly what i'd like to avoid.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> chx, best you ask the nginx support channels for that level of support.
[10:58] <ikevin> chx, you can force the override of the file with dpkg
[11:01] <stark_> hi
[11:01] <stark_> is this official ubuntu support?
 hmm... obviously now apache config is stuck ;-) weird thing.. if i add php info to default www it doesn't  render the php code
 could it be that php is not yet activated under current apache2 install?
[11:01] <chx> ikevin: hrm, won't that override all configuration files including customized ones?
[11:02] <cfhowlett> stark_, now we know you're trolling.  you were here before so obviously you know exactly what this channel is for.  i'm beginning to understand why the mint channel kicked you.
[11:02] <ikevin> abijma, try a2enmod php5.6
[11:02] <ikevin> chx, if you've modified default package files, it maybe overrided too
 https://thepasteb.in/p/76hE4PqDB3ghV
[11:02] <stark_> dont get me wrong...it was my friend just trying on my Ubuntu
[11:03] <stark_> i have come here for the first time
[11:03] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | Start[m]
[11:03] <cfhowlett> !guidelines > stark_,
[11:03] <chx> OK, done
[11:03] <stark_> thanks i will read them for sure
[11:04] <diskin> how can it be that there is no /var/log/Xorg.0.log file in a system running X?
[11:04] <stark_> can i reinstall ubuntu without getting my home folder formated?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> stark_, yes.
[11:05] <stark_> how?
[11:05] <stark_> please explian i am new to ubuntu
[11:05] <stark_> and i have messes it up
[11:05] <cfhowlett> stark_, you said you already installed ubuntu earlier.
[11:05] <stark_> but i had a clean install
[11:05] <stark_> erase disk and install ubuntu
[11:06] <cfhowlett> as in minutes ago.  so why exactly do you need to install again?
[11:06] <stark_> i want to reinstall it on my another Pc
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:06] <cfhowlett> stark_, so you are NOT installing it to the same PC ... and you already know how to do an installation.
[11:07] <stark_> no no no
[11:07] <pjm6> blackflow, thank you :) now its solved, in the /etc/default/netfilter-persistent i must choose FLUSH_ON_STOP=1
[11:07] <stark_> i want my home folder to be as it is
[11:07] <stark_> and reinstall ubuntu
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !install | stark_ instructions are here.
[11:08] <stark_> thanks man
[11:09] <ikevin> abijma, if you restart apache, php still not working?
[11:10] <abijma> nope(http://abijma.nl/info.php)
 nope(http://abijma.nl/info.php)
[11:12] <ikevin> abijma, look like a php error, check in /var/log/apache2/error.log
 client denied by server configuration so guess i need to check apache config?
[11:15] <ikonia> abijma: this sounds like you have made a terrible mess of your setup
[11:15] <ikevin> abijma, yes, apache2.4 have some new config
[11:15] <ikonia> abijma: would it not be simple to use a supported configuration rather than this mess
[11:16] <ikonia> the <directory> parameter is very different between 2.2 and 2.4 - again, would it not be simpler to use a supported configuration
[11:16] <ikonia> this looks like an unsupportable mess
[11:17] <ikevin> abijma, you maybe need to add "Require all granted" to the default directory
[11:17] <ikonia> it's not just the grant
[11:18] <ikevin> ikonia, some times it's just sufficient to have a basic vhost working
[11:18] <ikonia> ikevin: why are you pusing this approach
[11:18] <ikonia> it's a total mess ?
[11:19] <ikevin> when i upgrade my server from 2.2 to 2.4, i just need to set that to have all my vhost working
[11:20] <ikonia> I mean why are you pushing this over complex solution of php / apache when you could just use the supported packages
[11:20] <ikonia> these PPA's and conflicts are just going to end in a mess
 hmm ok..;-) but if i have first one vhost working then we now that it works and i can start going on to get other vhost working. that i can handle my self i hope...
[11:20] <ikonia> the fact that I've had time to get food, go to the shop and light a fire and PHP is still not working suggests the effort is just crazy for what is a simple situation
[11:20] <ikevin> ikonia, he don't want to upgrade ubuntu, so ppa or compilation is the only way to get php 5.6 on precise
[11:21] <ikonia> why doesn't he want to upgrade
[11:21] <ikonia> it's going to be an unsupported mess
[11:21] <blackflow> I agree with ikonia
[11:21] <ikonia> working outside the package limitations of the version your on is crazy
[11:21] <ikonia> it will end with more of a mess than it already is
[11:21] <blackflow> Don't deviate from defaults unless you really know what you're doing
[11:21] <ikevin> ikonia, i don't know why he don't want to upgrade, i just reply to his question
[11:22] <ikonia> maybe that should be the real question
[11:22] <ikonia> either that or why he needs a different PHP version on the "wrong" platform
 i tried several times to upgrade and that didn't work either..
[11:23] <abijma> but if that is the real hard advice to do may'be i should find that out.. i thought this would be easy todo also
[11:23] <ikonia> abijma: you won't be able to do a clean safe upgrade now
[11:23] <ikonia> abijma: you've put a load of PPA's in there that will cause conflicts
[11:24] <abijma> but do you say that you never ever should advice to make use of PPA's?
[11:24] <ikevin> iirc, ubuntu ask to disable ppa while upgrading
[11:24] <abijma> hmmm...
 did i understand clear that there is now not really a way back and i should do clean install? because then i have to set-up a new seperat VPS with apache/php
[11:32] <halpme> So, i got a new notebook. I turn it on and the only thing I see is "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot devide and press a key". I have tried with a live usb stick but still the same problem appears. My bet is my new notebook does not have a bios (I am not offered a list with a boot order)... your thoughts please
[11:33] <ikonia> halpme: have you tried to install ubuntu yet ?
[11:33] <ikonia> halpme: or is this fresh out of the box
[11:35] <egsome> Hi, Anyway to share USB connected device with wine running app ?
[11:35] <halpme> aaarg... I forgot the live cd at home
[11:35] <Scoop_> Hello so the scenario: had dual  win 10 and  ubuntu 16.04 LTS: i did "sudo mv /* ../"  My ubuntu partition is damaged and I m unable to boot it and my important files in home directory are encrypted( I don't have the long passphrase) I need those encrypted files in home directory.
[11:35] <halpme> i mean live usb
[11:35] <ikonia> egsome: not really
[11:35] <ikonia> Scoop_: they are gone
[11:36] <egsome> ikonia, Why so ? Can't simply do a symoblic link to somewhere in wine virtual directories ?
[11:36] <ikonia> Scoop_: unless you can manually find the key file and put it back in the right place
[11:36] <ikonia> egsome: try it
[11:36] <ikonia> egsome: it will fail
[11:36] <egsome> ikonia, I did, and it failed :), that's why I'm asking
[11:36] <ikonia> egsome: right, and I'm telling you it won't work
[11:36] <egsome> ikonia, No any alternative way ?
[11:36] <ikonia> egsome: not really
[11:36] <egsome> ikonia, Even not using wine ?
[11:37] <ikonia> egsome: especially not using wine
[11:37] <egsome> ikonia, I think PlayOnLinux and such programs are such based on wine, right ?
[11:37] <ikonia> egsome: playonlinux is a wrapper for wine
[11:37] <ikonia> egsome: a poitnless waste of time
[11:38] <stark_> black screen after booting in ubuntu!!!
[11:38] <stark_> and also it starts up very slowly
[11:38] <pendekar> hello everyone
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset  stark_
[11:38] <egsome> ikonia, Can I ask how did You try the linking thing ? Which path did You use ? Maybe I tried something wrong.
[11:38] <Scoop_> ikonia: Ok will try to manually get them back - one more question - did this command damaged win 10 or did I rushed too fast to recover to win8(wiping all the win10 partition) ?
[11:38] <halpme> ikonia: computer fresh out of the box , but the live usb is not available where I am atm
[11:38] <Ben64> egsome: what are you actually trying to do
[11:38] <stark_> what?? cfhowlett
[11:38] <ikonia> egsome: I didn't do a "linking" thing, as I know it won't work
[11:38] <ikonia> Scoop_: it won't have touched windows 10
[11:39] <cfhowlett> stark_, I sent you a link relevant to your situation.  read the link.
[11:39] <halpme> ikonia: i have however taken the hdd off the old notebook and inserted it into a case, so I can boot the whole OS from my old hdd through usb
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset  | stark_
[11:39] <ikonia> halpme: clearly not
[11:39] <egsome> Ben64, I have some simple flashing tool, which is a windows program, trying to get it working through Wine, It works perfectly, except it never detect the device.
[11:39] <ikonia> halpme: as it can't see the boot sector on the usb disk
[11:39] <egsome> ikonia, How are You that sure if You didn't try ?
[11:39] <Ben64> egsome: egsome what flashing tool, to flash what
[11:39] <ikonia> egsome: because I know how it works
[11:40] <halpme> egsome: what did I forget to try?
[11:40] <ikonia> egsome: this is getting tedious, you ask if you can do it, I explain "no" and you then then argue that I'm wrong
[11:40] <ikonia> what's the point of asing
[11:40] <ikonia> asking
[11:40] <egsome> Ben64, To flash a PoS device, Bitel IC5100
[11:40] <pendekar> How to get OpenShot to recognize Blender path ??
[11:40]  * cfhowlett reads "it works perfectly except ..." and stops reading.
[11:40] <Ben64> egsome: yep you can't do it
[11:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[11:40] <cfhowlett> pendekar, ask openshot.  it's been an unsolved issue for years.  problem is with OS not with ubuntu.
[11:41] <egsome> Ben64, Because of ?
[11:41] <Ben64> egsome: because of the way that it is
[11:42] <pendekar> i'm using backbox
[11:42] <Scoop_> ikonia: is it possible to fix my ubuntu partition manually (from usb try ubuntu or other way) and save me the headache of decrypting files? Because I believe i have moved back all the files that i have previously moved to one directory(but I still can't boot)?
[11:42] <ikonia> Scoop_: not really, your files will all be a mess, yes it's technically possible but really not worth it
[11:42] <cfhowlett> pendekar, backbox is not supported in the ubuntu channels.
[11:42] <ikonia> Scoop_: they will be all over the place,
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !backbox | pendekar
[11:42] <ikonia> Scoop_: you can try to reverse the command if you want
[11:42] <stark_> thnx
[11:43] <pendekar> i'm sorry, ok thanks
[11:43] <stark_> any download manager which can catch downloads from firefox just like IDM in windows
[11:43] <Scoop_> ikonia: reverse the command - how??
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> stark_  FF has its own download manager/icon
[11:44] <ikonia> Scoop_: look at what you've done, you've moved everytthing in / back one level
[11:44] <ikonia> Scoop_: it's really going to work though
[11:44] <gerry_dublin_dub> anyone have a rough time frame eta on 16.04.2 release?
[11:44] <ikonia> gerry_dublin_dub: what's "your" problem
[11:44] <ikonia> rather than what other people are seeing
[11:44] <stark_> @MonkeyDust but it can't resume the download if i pause or cancel it
[11:45] <blackflow> stark_: are you sure?
[11:45] <egsome> Ben64, Actually I tried making a symbolic link, and it now fire error of "Another program is using the telephony service"
[11:45] <blackflow> maybe the server just doesn't support ranges which are required for that functionality.
[11:46] <Ben64> egsome: it doesn't work
[11:46] <stark_> yes
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> stark_  yes you can, just tried with an ubuntu iso
[11:46] <ikonia> egsome: either accept it or stop asking
[11:46] <cfhowlett> gerry_dublin_dub, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[11:46] <blackflow> stark_: maybe the server just doesn't support ranges which are required for that functionality.
[11:46] <ikonia> egsome: you're asking "does it work" you're being tols "no" then you are trying to argue it, if you think it works, get on with making it work
[11:47] <stark_> hmm
[11:47] <stark_> i have downloaded uget
[11:47] <gerry_dublin_dub> thanks but that page doesn't show point release dates cfhowlett
[11:47] <egsome> ikonia, Is it wrong to keep trying and discussing results I get ?
[11:48] <ikonia> egsome: yes, when you are being told "it doesn't work"
[11:48] <cfhowlett> gerry_dublin_dub, every 6 months for LS releases.
[11:48] <ikonia> egsome: if you disagree, get on with making it work
[11:48] <gerry_dublin_dub> ah thank you kindly
[11:48] <egsome> ikonia, I'm not keeping asking ! I just said what different result I got, when it fired error, instead of simply not detecting the device.
[11:48] <ikonia> egsome: but you must see how pointless it is to ask "does it work" be told "no" then argue it, if you knew it worked you wouldn't be asking, if you won't accept "no" whats the point of asking
[11:48] <egsome> ikonia, I'm not asking ! I'm discussing !
[11:48] <ikonia> egsome: you're not
[11:49] <ikonia> egsome: you're trying to show it's working somehow
[11:49] <ikonia> when it's not
[11:49] <egsome> ikonia, I'm not trying to show it is working !! I really need to get it working, and that's why spending my time here to discuss whatever possible, not asking !
[11:49] <ikonia> egsome: "it won't work" use a supported OS to flash it
[11:49] <egsome> ikonia, And, You don't have to answer or reply to my messages if You don't like to !
[11:49] <ikonia> egsome: that is the answer
[11:50] <cfhowlett> egsome, please continue it #ubuntu-offtopic.  this discussion has fallen outside the boundaries of tech support.  thank you.
[11:50] <lloydng> hello
[11:50] <egsome> cfhowlett, Is the point I'm discussing not a tech one ? OK, Seems weird !
[11:51] <lloydng> is there anyone here who could help me fixed my problem with my scanner?
[11:51] <cfhowlett> egsome, it's now pretty much a technical debate and not "how do I make this work".  the OT channel would be better suited for such.
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !ask | lloydng
[11:52] <egsome> cfhowlett, Got it, thanks.
[11:52] <lloydng> ow sorry newbie here, and thanks btw
[11:53] <lloydng> help, problem with epson L210. My scanner wont work today, but it was working yesterday
[11:55] <cfhowlett> lloydng, upgraded since yesterday??
[11:56] <lloydng> last time i checked my system is up to date
[11:57] <cfhowlett> I mean did you perform any recent updates as, on occasion, that can cause issues.
[11:59] <lloydng> cfhowlett, no none. just scanning some photos. no recent updates activity
[12:00] <cfhowlett> lloydng, OK, let's research this.  dpkg -l | grep linux-headers* | pastebinit        will list your kernels.
[12:00] <lloydng> this happened before, but i just rebooted my system and my scanner works again. but now, i can't make it anymore
[12:03] <Backwards> lloydng How much RAM are you using? Also are you using a 64 bit scanner on a 32 bit machine? Think in those terms.
[12:03] <lloydng> cfhowlett, done.. thank you some much! appreciated
[12:04] <cfhowlett>  lloydng please paste the url that command gave you here
[12:04] <lloydng> Backwards, may PC 64bit with 4GB RAM, i dont know with my scanner, its epson L210
[12:04] <lloydng> cfhowlett, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/23693963/
[12:05] <cfhowlett> lloydng, uname -r       should state that you are using 4.4.0-57                 please confirm
[12:05] <Backwards> lloydng In short most things should work OK when installed correctly. However, many people install 32 bit stuff on a 64 bit machine and if the OS or kernel doesn't see it correctly, then problems exists.
[12:07] <lloydng> Backwards, ok so i should google my scanner then i dont have its spec at hand
[12:08] <Backwards> The problem that I see every day is that when installing a UNIX installation, the installation always asks for what "Hardware" is being supported?
[12:08] <Scoop_> if i would do a reinstall of 16.04 (selecting to keep my personal  files...) this would erase my encrypted files in home directory??
[12:08] <Backwards> Scoop save your files and then reinstall.
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Scoop_  i don't know, but i do advise you to backupup first
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> typo*
[12:10] <Backwards> It is much easier to re-install the kernel rather than trying to get tech support.
[12:11] <Backwards> Create an ISO backup disk and before you install anything, make sure you can re-create an Image of the Disk.
[12:13] <lloydng> Backwards & cfhowlett. Thanks! Try to boot, and see if it works, just like with Windows
[12:14] <cfhowlett> best of luck
[12:16] <blackflow> Backwards: what is "ISO backup disk" and how do you create one?
[12:16] <ikonia> I'd love to know
[12:17] <Backwards> lloydng With Windows you need to know that you should set a: Control Pannel with a backup mount point in which with Windows is <Restore Point>
 i had a lunch, back now. Regarding your and <Ikonia> 's last mentions..is there any possibility to go back now with current installation? or is the only option to reinstall Ubuntu? any simpler solution??
[12:18] <Backwards> Creating an ISO you can do it with a DVD drive with software.
[12:18] <ikonia> Backwards: are you talking about a bootable ISO
[12:18] <blackflow> Backwards: please tell me how, I'd like to learn your $300/hr method.
[12:18] <ikonia> or just a backup of some files onto a cd
[12:18] <Backwards> Sure.
[12:18] <Backwards> You can do many things.
[12:19] <blackflow> I know I can, but I'd like to know how to make "ISO backup disk" that you're recommending to people.
[12:19] <Backwards> First of all, it all depends upon what OS or kernel you are referring to.
[12:19] <ikonia> kernel ?
[12:19] <ikonia> errr no
[12:19] <blackflow> Ubuntu, this is #ubuntu.
[12:19] <ikonia> an ISO image is nothing to do with a kernal
[12:19] <ikonia> kernel
[12:19] <stark_> is there any free vpn for ubuntu?
[12:20] <ikonia> stark_: many
[12:20] <stark_> tell me the best
[12:20] <ikonia> stark_: vpn clients are widely available and also built into network manager
[12:20] <Backwards> Ok, you can use a Windows copy disk and burn an ISO with Ubuntu. I have done it.
[12:20] <ikonia> stark_: you need to know what clients your vpn encpoint support
 <ikevin> i had a lunch, back now. Regarding your and <Ikonia> 's last mentions..is there any possibility to go back now with current installation? or is the only option to reinstall Ubuntu? any simpler solution?? <== if you want a clean system and uptodate, you need a fresh install
[12:20] <ikonia> Backwards: you're just talking nonsense now
[12:20] <blackflow> Backwards: no, forget Windows. Please tell me how to make the "ISO backup disk" on Ubuntu, using Ubuntu tools, this has nothing to do with WIndows.
[12:20] <stark_> i need a vpn to have access to a website
[12:20] <Backwards> You need to <Slave> the hard drive first.
[12:21] <blackflow> Backwards: okay, good. How?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !vpn | stark_
[12:21] <Backwards> Again, if you have the right software tools, you can put it in your DVD drive but you need another slaved drive or DVD burner in which I do.
[12:22] <ikonia> Backwards: what ubuntu software does this ?
[12:22] <ikonia> Backwards: and how do you "slave" a hard disk
[12:22] <blackflow> Backwards: fine, but please tell me how. You've been giving this advice to people and I want to learn HOW.
[12:22] <halpme> i cannot create a live usb stick where I am, I need admin privileges. What bugs me is this: the HDD worked in the old notebook (directly connected with sata). I inserted this hdd with sata in the sata port of my new notebook and I still get the "reboot and select proper boot device..." what am I missing?
[12:22] <stark_> !ubuntu | ikonia
[12:22] <ikonia> stark_: ?
[12:22] <stark_> i wanted to just try the command
[12:23] <blackflow> Backwards: I have a Ubuntu machine, no Windows in sight, main SSD in it, and a backup USB HDD. Please tell me how to back up my Ubuntu installation.
[12:23] <stark_> !FreeBSD | stark
[12:23] <ikonia> stark_: please stop messing with the bot
[12:24] <stark_> what??? ubottu is a bot??
[12:24] <ikonia> stark_: it is, yes
[12:24] <blackflow> o'rly :)
[12:24] <stark_> ok sorry Mr.bot
[12:24] <Backwards> Ikonia, it remains to see that you need to Google a suitable bootable ISO and burn it to disk and then you can boot from the disk and use either a Hard drive or USB drive to copy the data. Just copying the data is good in the first place.
[12:24] <ikonia> Backwards: please tell me how to do with with ubuntu
[12:24] <blackflow> Backwards: you have NO idea what you're talking about, do you?
[12:24] <ikonia> Backwards: you're telling people to create these ISO's please tell me how to create one
[12:24] <tenX> blackflow: rsync, duplicity?
[12:25] <ikonia> Backwards: you're coming up with nosense statements like 'it depends on the kernel" and "32bit scanners"
[12:25] <blackflow> tenX: beside the point, I kow how to, but he's recommending people to make "ISO backup disk" and I'm dying to learn how to do that on Ubuntu :)
[12:25] <blackflow> this is precisely why ikonia recommended AGAINST going private for support, no way for others to screen bullshit advice from real advice.
[12:26] <ikonia> Backwards: language please....;)
[12:26] <blackflow> apologies.
[12:26] <ikonia> Backwards: zero issue
[12:26] <ikonia> oops
[12:26] <ikonia> blackflow: zero issue
[12:27] <Backwards> Quite frankly, the 32 bit and 64 bit has everything to do with copying a drive and burning an ISO file with a DVD drive. I have been doing this for a long time.
[12:27] <ikonia> Backwards: no it doesn't
[12:27] <tenX> blackflow: iso backup disk? ha
[12:27] <blackflow> yah :)
[12:27] <EriC^^> he means he wants to dd it to an .img file
[12:27] <tenX> blackflow: os2iso
[12:28] <EriC^^> Backwards: how's 32bit vs 64bit come into play?
[12:28] <stark_> is there any ubuntu chat channel also?
[12:28] <EriC^^> stark_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <stark_> ok
[12:29] <Backwards> There are times when the OS doesn't like being told what to do when being in use. So errors happen because while the OS is in use you cannot replicate the ISO or kernel on a disk while in use.
[12:29] <stark_> i cant join this channel
[12:29] <ikonia> Backwards: this is nothing to do with the kernel
[12:29] <EriC^^> Backwards: yeah but that's not 32bit vs 64bit related
[12:29] <ikonia> Backwards: or "depends what kernel"
[12:29] <stark_> i cant join this channel
[12:30] <ikonia> Backwards: honestly, this is the only warning you'll getnow
[12:30] <cfhowlett> stark_, you are already IN this channel
[12:30] <EriC^^> stark_: maybe you need to register
[12:30] <ikonia> Backwards: help with things you actually understand and can back up with fact, or be quiet
[12:30] <stark_> how to register?
[12:30] <ikonia> !register | stark_
[12:30] <EriC^^> /nickserv register <pass> <email>
 first i would like to get an up and running apache/php installation again. so is there an option to get it running again with the current situation?
[12:31] <stark_> !register | stark
[12:31] <blackflow> Ubuntu has a built-in backup tool, I think using deja-dup. Just type "backup" in dash, and there you go. There's also plenty of native ways, like simple copy, rsync, tarballing, LVM/btrfs/ZFS snapshots, etc... making an "ISO" disk, even if possible, is least of the recommended ways. An "ISO backup disk" not only doesn't make sense, but even if one did make an iso image... what for? it's not native, you
 because now i have nothing....
[12:31] <blackflow> need external tools.
[12:31] <stark_> how to register?
[12:31] <ikevin> abijma, yes, you just need to add some new settings to apache
[12:31] <stark_> command did not work
[12:31] <EriC^^> stark_: what'd it say?
[12:31] <EriC^^> join #freenode and ask there
[12:31] <oles> hi
[12:32] <cece> hi
 ok, please can you help me with that?
[12:32] <stark_> what is freenode?
[12:32] <stark_> what is #freenode?
[12:32] <ikonia> abijma: I would strongly advise you to backup your websites and install the best version of ubuntu, then restore your websites,
[12:32] <ikevin> abijma, yes, so, can you do a zip of your /etc/apache2 and share it?
[12:32] <ikonia> abijma: you're current install is a mess and is going to cause you problems down the line
[12:32] <oles> is there any simple exampleof how to build qemu for arm host on ubuntu without manually resolving its sourecode dependencies?
[12:32] <tenX> blackflow: what is that backup utility like? feature wise? have you tried it?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> oles  better ask in #ubuntu-arm
[12:33] <Backwards> Backflow, a bit of advice may go a long way here and for anyone else: There is a boot disk called: "Ultimate Boot Disk" also there is:  "Bart's Boot Disks" in which you can find on Google and that is the end of this discussion. Do your homework.
[12:33] <oles> MonkeyDust, thx
[12:33] <blackflow> abijma: plus, Precise is going out of support soon, so it's good time to start testing your ecosystem on newer Ubuntu.
 i understand... but if i can get it running now then it gives me some time to do a fresh installation
[12:33] <blackflow> tenX: I haven't, I use ZFS and I do zfs send|recv with snapshots for backups.
[12:34] <blackflow> IMHO really the best way to manage your data. btrfs can do it too, if zfs is not wanted.
[12:34] <stark_> !kill | me
[12:35] <rizonz> which package contains rrdtool ?
[12:35] <EriC^^> !find rrdtool
[12:35] <tenX> blackflow: i c but what about backing up to remote hosts or removable devices
[12:35] <ikevin> rizonz, rrdtool :)
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> !find rrdtool
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  was faster
[12:35] <tenX> blackflow: this is just for interest
[12:35] <blackflow> tenX: zfs send|recv :)
[12:35] <rizonz> ikevin: mhh but 16.04 can't find it ?
[12:36] <blackflow> tenX: "zfs send mypool@snapshot | ssh remote@server 'zfs recv -eu backupoool'"
[12:36] <ikevin> rizonz, hu? i'm abble to find it on 16.04
[12:36] <rizonz> ikevin: mhh not as packagename
[12:36] <ikevin> apt policy show me it's on main repo
[12:37] <rizonz> ikevin: oh sorry my mistake :)
[12:37] <rizonz> if rrdtool update /graph.rdd says too less aguments, what is srong ?
 i can send you that zip, but not all sites have to work.. are you gonna make also changes in sites-enabled or sites-available?
[12:38] <ikevin> sites-enabled is sufficient
[12:39] <blackflow> ikevin: sites-enabled are symlinks to sites-available, so it'd be best to back up BOTH and retain symlinks.
 yes indeed i guess you mean sites-available?
[12:41] <blackflow> abijma: sites-enabled are symlinks to sites-available, so it'd be best to back up BOTH and retain symlinks.
[12:42] <ikevin> abijma, better is the entire /etc/apache2 directory
[12:45] <realjmin> .
[12:55] <halpme> i need to create a live usb stick with xubuntu in it and all I have is a windows computer, with no admin privileges: I cannot install things like unetbooting or rufus, so im looking for something that does not need to be installed... help appreciated
[12:56] <JP____> Hello mina-san
[12:56] <JP____> Who is ready to paaaaarty :P
[12:57] <JP____> * insert question mark somewhere in previous sentence *
[12:57] <ikevin> halpme, see http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/unetbootin-portable
[13:02] <ubuntu417> hi
[13:03] <ubuntu417> Who knows how to format an ubuntu 13.10
[13:03] <cfhowlett> ubuntu417, 13.10 is old, dead and unsupported.  do not use it.
[13:03] <ubuntu417> okay
[13:04] <JP____> lol
[13:04] <JP____> Nice welcome
[13:05] <cfhowlett> JP____, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic or find a different channel to play in.  thank you.
[13:05] <JP____> :p
[13:05] <JP____> I'm looking to build a qt boot image
[13:05] <JP____> for x86
[13:05] <JP____> Kiosk type
[13:05] <JP____> With custom bootloader
[13:06] <JP____> Care to help?
[13:07] <JP____> cfhowlett: ?
[13:07] <cfhowlett> JP____, outside my area.
[13:07] <JP____> Is there a better room where i can ask this?
[13:07] <JP____> Been waiting for a while on a awnser now
[13:07] <JP____> anwser*
[13:09] <drjam> kiosk with old linux?
[13:09] <drjam> isnt there like, more current linux kiosk stuff around?
[13:10] <halpme> ikevin: aaaaargh... I tried portable apps, installed unetbooting in my usb stick but Im still asked for admin privileges to run unetbooting....
[13:20] <Scoop_> when you loose your OS and all of the important files with it - it looks like your life is over...
[13:21] <halpme> did you backup?
[13:22] <ikevin> Scoop_, testdisk can be your friend :)
[13:22] <Scoop_> no... In the future will set up scheduled cloud backups. Currently trying to recover some data, but it's a longshot
[13:22] <EriC^^> Scoop_: how did you lose them?
[13:27] <Scoop_> "sudo mv /* ../ " I also panic rushed to recover my dual boot win10 to win8 , haven't tried to change first boot option to win10... So currently using recura to restore win 10 files, and after that will try to fix ubuntu boot with grub fsck dev/sda9. The files that i need from ubuntu is in home dir(encrypted)
[13:28] <Scoop_> Also moved the folders back to root from the one they appeared to, but didn't helped a lot
[13:37] <wam> Hi, rm sucks when you have a lot of files. What are you using? rsync --delete?
[13:37] <EriC^^> that's pretty interesting
[13:38] <EriC^^> what's it actually move it to when you say mv something ../
[13:39] <EriC^^> they just disappeared here
[13:41] <EriC^^> Scoop_: they actually moved to the dir i was in behind it
[13:41] <EriC^^> i was in "/home/user" when i ran the command and they got moved to /home/
[13:41] <EriC^^> Scoop_: which dir were you in when you ran the move command? try "grep mv /var/log/auth.log" if you used sudo
[13:42] <tenX> EriC^^: well .. is the upper dir?
[13:42] <JP____> Is it normal for an ubuntu persistent live usb to be very slow?
[13:42] <EriC^^> tenX: well yeah, i guess
[13:43] <JP____> 16.04 LTS
[13:43] <ikevin> wam, rsync maybe will more slow than rm
[13:43] <JP____> PC specs: I7 (newer generation), 16GB ram, Some videocard @ 2gb
[13:43] <tenX> EriC^^: and . the current
[13:44] <tenX> EriC^^: you can combine ../.. moving up one more level
[13:44] <tenX> EriC^^: just in case u didnt know
[13:45] <metaresolve> question: I am very ignorant when it comes to CLI. Is there someone who can /msg me and help me walk through something?
[13:45] <metaresolve> I have a vps with ubuntu something on it
[13:45] <EriC^^> metaresolve: ask here
[13:45] <metaresolve> k
[13:45] <Scoop_> Eric^^ when i did the command i was in var/www/html/website/project and everything appeared in var/www/html/website folder
[13:45] <JP____> Is it normal for an ubuntu persistent live usb to be very slow? version 16.04 LTS, PC specs: I7 (newer generation), 16GB ram, Some videocard @ 2gb
[13:46] <metaresolve> I'm using putty. When I don't know a password for a user, I'm on the Access denied and the prompt for that user again
[13:46] <EriC^^> Scoop_: aha, move them back using a live usb
[13:46] <metaresolve> how do I get out of that "what's your password" if I don't know it?
[13:46] <EriC^^> metaresolve: ctrl+d maybe
[13:46] <ronnie> i have installed ncpa-2.0.0.amd64.deb on my Ubuntu 14.04 machine. the ncpa_listener and i can wget on LOCALHOST to https://<IP_ADDRESS>:6593/ so thats working. But when i do this from another machine it timeouts. Also nmap doesn't show 6593 as an open port. But there is no firewall (ufw disabled, iptables policy ACCEPT). How can i connect to the ncpa listener?
[13:46] <Scoop_> After that everyting stoped to work... But i recovered win8 then i manually moved ubuntu partition files from var/ww/html/website to root, but that didn't helped a lot. Currently ubuntu is not bootable.
[13:47] <EriC^^> Scoop_: what happens when you try to boot?
[13:47] <metaresolve> eric: that just shuts down the window. I want to keep the putty window open and just have it go up from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>password:"
[13:48] <EriC^^> metaresolve: ctrl+c ?
[13:48] <Scoop_> i get chipset unrecognized and get to use a terminal... If i use grub recovery then it interrupts and ask me to do a manual fsck because of dev/sd9 failure
[13:48] <metaresolve> eric: same thing. and i can't think of a vocabulary to use to google it
[13:49] <bytefire> hi, i've created a simple test script which i want to run as a daemon and systemd service file. that works fine when i explicitly start it using systemctl start... but it doesn't start automatically on boot
[13:49] <bytefire> here's the service file: http://pastebin.com/Me2ND0kk
[13:50] <EriC^^> bytefire: did you do systemctl enable service?
[13:50] <metaresolve> i'm googling a bit more on something else, don't worry about that question for now.
[13:52] <metaresolve> I'm seeing this prompt: postgres@server:/root$
[13:52] <metaresolve> what does that mean? I was trying to su postgres from root
[13:52] <metaresolve> sorry i'm so ignorant
[13:52] <bytefire> EriC^^: ah, no :)
[13:52]  * metaresolve hangs head
[13:57] <Scoop_> Eric^^ i know I don't make a lot of sense but do you think  I will manage to recover my ubuntu install or atleast my home directory(encrypted files) ?
[13:58] <Scoop_> when trying to grub recovery i get almost exact to this: fsck from util-linux 2.26.2 /dev/sda6 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/sda6: Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.  /dev/sda6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.         (i.e., without -a or -p options) fsck exited with status code 4 The root filesystem on /dev/sda6 requires a manual fsck  Busybox v1.22.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.22.0
[13:58] <EriC^^> Scoop_: yeah i think you should be able to
[13:58] <EriC^^> Scoop_: try running fsck manually
[13:59] <EriC^^> Scoop_: are the encrypted files still in /home/user ?
[13:59] <metaresolve> eric: you're right, the ctrl-d did let me go back up from the login to root. thanks.
[13:59] <EriC^^> try du -sh /home to see the size
[13:59] <EriC^^> metaresolve: cool, no problem
[14:00] <Scoop_> Yeah will try to do this as soon as my win8 recura program is finished recovering files.. It says it need 30 more minutes. It was scanning/recovering from night time.
[14:00] <Scoop_> Eric^^ yes
[14:00] <metaresolve> eric: do you have a recommendation for learning ubuntu/command line? I don't know how to use it at all. I'm used to GUI. I've tried doing the Learn CLI the hardway like 3 times but it never sticks.
[14:00] <EriC^^> Scoop_: try to manually decrypt it with sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[14:01] <EriC^^> !tldp | metaresolve
[14:01] <metaresolve> and reading the manual doesn't help, i'm even more ignorant than a manual can help me with
[14:01] <Scoop_> bet they are only 1 kb in size and only links to usr/share/encrypt-utils/.. ~something to other 1kb txt files
[14:01] <metaresolve> ok ty, i'll look through those
[14:01] <Scoop_> Eric atm I am running win8 so don't have sudo commands at my disposal :)
[14:02] <EriC^^> metaresolve: i'd recommend the linux admin guide and system admin guide (pretty similar) and the gnu command line utils (that'll give you a lot of utils to use and stuff that are handy)
[14:02] <EriC^^> they're not that big too and i found them pretty helpful
[14:02] <EriC^^> (Y)