[12:16] <K-Ryan> !microphone
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[12:16] <K-Ryan> Hold on two seconds Hash
[12:16] <Hash-the-cracker> ok
[12:16] <raylu> hendaus, i think you need to enable a few repositories
[12:16] <hendaus> raylu:  i have feisty and i enable universe and multiverse
[12:17] <raylu> hendaus, can you show us your sources.list?
[12:17] <K-Ryan> I had hendaus enable the repos
[12:17] <K-Ryan> Assuming Adept's new style of enabling them works
[12:17] <hendaus> ok
[12:17] <raylu> i'm not so sure about it. it got synaptic-ified, so i still want to see the raw sources.list
[12:18] <K-Ryan> Hash-the-cracker: I'm not sure, there doesn't seem to be a hardware section or something of the like. Keep asking around though
[12:18] <albertmk> How can I check if a package is installed and its version??????
[12:18] <Hash-the-cracker> ok, thanks anyhoo
[12:18] <hendaus> raylu:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22058/
[12:18] <K-Ryan> albertmk: to check if it is installed, sudo <app name>
[12:18] <nuu> albertmk: dpkg --list "packagename"
[12:18] <K-Ryan> albertmk: for version, sudo <app name> --version
[12:19] <K-Ryan> that's two -
[12:19] <raylu> or aptitude show [pkgname]
[12:19] <raylu> and you shouldn't need sudo for --version
[12:20] <Hash-the-cracker> also, htf do i install non supported packages, say i wanted to download a dvd player app. it comes as a tarball, and i extract it, and follow the directions ./configure, make, make install... etc. it never works, is there like a package installer i can use to install tarballs??
[12:21] <raylu> hehe. hendaus, just enable everything :P
[12:21] <K-Ryan> raylu: Oh, thought you did...
[12:21] <sayers> The terminal should be doccumented better, it makes things so much easier yet the wiki never gives the steps to do in in a terminal :S
[12:21] <hendaus> so everything ok
[12:21] <nuu> Hash-the-cracker: no, that's the procedure, typically
[12:21] <raylu> !gcc | Hash-the-cracker
[12:21] <ubotu> Hash-the-cracker: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:21] <albertmk> I do need to find the package "gdal"
[12:21] <albertmk> Does anyone know how to get it?
[12:21] <raylu> Hash-the-cracker, i assume you've installed build-essential?
[12:21] <raylu> !find gdal
[12:21] <ubotu> Found: gdal-bin, libgdal-doc, libgdal1-1.3.2, libgdal1-1.3.2-dev, libgdal1-1.3.2-grass (and 1 others)
[12:21] <K-Ryan> Hash-the-cracker: You need to ./make it then use a ./<insert launch command> to launch it
[12:22] <K-Ryan> If that doesn't work, I'm not sure.
[12:22] <raylu> albertmk, search for it in apt/adept
[12:22] <raylu> no, not ./make, just make
[12:22] <raylu> after installing build-essential
[12:22] <albertmk> raylu: I have already done and downloaded everthing but it still does not exist.
[12:23] <K-Ryan> Riiiight
[12:25] <raylu> albertmk, the packages do exist. search for it. it's not by that exact name
[12:25] <albertmk> raylu: now you told me!
[12:25] <timmay> does anyone happen to use SJPhone?
[12:26] <K-Ryan> !sjphone
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sjphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <K-Ryan> Worth a shot =P
[12:26] <timmay> lol
[12:26] <raylu> albertmk, ...i used !find and i assumed you read the results
[12:26] <timmay> i found a linux version, just can't get it to install
[12:26] <raylu> timmay, are they binaries or source?
[12:26] <albertmk> !find
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <albertmk> XD
[12:26] <albertmk> !help
[12:27] <Minataku> timmay: I prefer XTen's softphone
[12:27] <luca> sera a tutti
[12:27] <albertmk> ubotu: hello
[12:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:27] <Minataku> !it | luca
[12:27] <RawSewage> apt-cache search SEARCHTERM   to find packages
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <ubotu> luca: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:27] <K-Ryan> Yeeeeaaaaah
[12:27] <Minataku> Woah
[12:27] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  is there a program for nokia 6230 to transfering files and images
[12:27] <K-Ryan> Ubotu is an information bot
[12:27] <albertmk> XD
[12:27] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Don't know
[12:28] <hendaus> raylu:  do u know?
[12:28] <raylu> no idea.
[12:28] <hendaus> huh..
[12:29] <jbnet> Is there a source I can use to get the latest KDevelop? the KDE 3.5.7 one doesn't seem to have it
[12:29] <raylu> !find kdevelop
[12:29] <ubotu> Found: kdevelop, kdevelop-data, kdevelop-dev, kdevelop-doc, kdevelop3 (and 2 others)
[12:29] <raylu> jbnet, do you mean literally source?
[12:29] <sayers> How do I get the K3b MP3 encoder?
[12:29] <jbnet> raylu: well apt source
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> jbnet: has kde changed *that much* in a single incremental release that you can't use the existing kdevelop?
[12:30] <raylu> !info libk3b2-mp3 | sayers
[12:30] <ubotu> sayers: libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[12:30] <jbnet> Daisuke_Ido: it says they've improved code completion, i want to check it out :)
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> so that's a yes :)
[12:30] <sayers> Thanks
[12:30] <jbnet> but I'd rather not install from the source
[12:31] <jbnet> I expected the kubuntu KDE 3.5.7 apt source to have it, but nope
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> pity the 3.5.7 repo doesn't have it :\
[12:32] <tree_> dang it after a while of no crash now flash is crashing again, must be a conflict
[12:32] <jbnet> 3.5.7 updated painlessly though... doesn't seem any different yet
[12:32] <tree_> does everyone here have flash 9?
[12:33] <user-deployment> flash9 yes
[12:33] <tree_> or is it up to 10 now?
[12:34] <tree_> does your flash 9 get frozen?
[12:34] <raylu> no
[12:34] <tree_> i think i have something like SWF conflicting with it
[12:34] <tree_> or something
[12:34] <user-deployment>     libflashplayer.so
[12:34] <user-deployment>     Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31
[12:34] <tree_> might do a reinstall this is frustrationg
[12:34] <hendaus> !skype
[12:34] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:35] <tree_> my mouse freezes when flash crashes
[12:36] <tree_> now reinstalling fiesty
[12:36] <raylu> ctrl+alt+f1 is your friend
[12:36] <tree_> even the ctrl-alts dont work\
[12:37] <raylu> o.0
[12:38] <Hash-the-cracker> question...
[12:39] <slicknick> what do yall like for a basic, userfriendly wiki ?
[12:39] <luke-jr_work> no
[12:39] <slicknick> implementation
[12:39] <timmay> anyone running thunderbird 2.0?
[12:39] <Hash-the-cracker> how do i stop mounted drive from displaying on the desktop?
[12:39] <timmay> !XTen
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xten - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <timmay> Minataku: what was XTen? is it like SJPhone for linux?
[12:41] <gravygoat> Regarding adept_manager - the notice on Kubuntu.org about how to install the new KDE release talks about a "Third party software" tab and an "Authentication" tab on the "Manage Repositories" screen.  I have no tabs.  What would cause that?
[12:41] <luke-jr_work> Xten is for Windoze...
[12:41] <Minataku> timmay: XLite is a freeware (proprietary license) VoIP SIP client
[12:41] <Hash-the-cracker> how do i stop mounted drives from displaying on the desktop? i have 2 drives, livux, and windoze, windows always shows on my desktop, i want access to my files on it, but i want to get it clear off my desktop. how do i do this??
[12:41] <Minataku> luke-jr_work: There's a native Linux version
[12:41] <luke-jr_work> Minataku: how "native"?
[12:41] <timmay> Minataku: like IAXLite?
[12:41] <Minataku> luke-jr_work: Programmed explicitly for Linux native
[12:41] <luke-jr_work> Minataku: Qt?
[12:41] <Minataku> The only definition of native there is
[12:41] <Minataku> luke-jr_work: Custom
[12:42] <Hash-the-cracker> ...help
[12:42] <Minataku> Looks just like the Windows one
[12:42] <clegg> hello, I'm having problems connecting to msn with kopete. Am I the only one?
[12:42] <luke-jr_work> Minataku: nothing is programming for Linux native except glibc
[12:42] <luke-jr_work> programmed*
[12:42] <Minataku> timmay: Okay, let's just ignore him
[12:42] <gravygoat> clegg: I am on msn with kopete right now
[12:42] <Minataku> I'll get you a link
[12:42] <user-deployment> !iso
[12:42] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:42] <NotFaint> Does anybody know why I would have two KlamAV icons showing up in the panel, and I can't get "quit" to do anything on either one?
[12:42] <timmay> heh np, was waiting for a highlighted response so i didn't notice :)
[12:43] <Hash-the-cracker> if quit not work, use ksysguard, it like ctrl alt delete for linux
[12:43] <Minataku> timmay: http://www.counterpath.com/index.php?menu=download_xlite&platform=linux << It's only the 2.0 version, but that means it's sans bloat and useless features
[12:43] <NotFaint> HaSH: Yeah, but I just booted up, so it's doing this automatically. I don't want it to happen at next boot.
[12:43] <clegg> I can't connect to msn with Kopete but I can with MSN Live from Windows
[12:43] <timmay> THE DESTROYER!
[12:43] <Minataku> It works as a softphone like it should and comes highly recommended by me
[12:44] <Minataku> And I'm a phone phreak
[12:44] <ctroyer> yeah
[12:44] <Minataku> So you know my recommendation counts for something
[12:44] <Minataku> At least when it comes to telecom stuff X3
[12:44] <intelikey> but i don't like having to run from ide disk.   scsi disk is going to whearl anyway so why not use it and let the ide power down.......
[12:44] <gravygoat> clegg: any chance you fat-fingered your login name or password?
[12:45] <clegg> gravygoat: I also deleted all references to kopete in ~/.kde and reconfigured all
[12:45] <NotFaint> OK, well, with Hash who was answering my question now gone... anybody know what I can do to stop Klam from coming up automatically when I start up?
[12:45] <NotFaint> clegg: Why not give GAIM a whirl?
[12:45] <Minataku> Uninstall it?
[12:45] <NotFaint> Minataku: But I wanna keep it. :P
[12:45] <clegg> kopete connection just dies without giving me any error
[12:45] <Minataku> It's probably got an initscript that's launching it
[12:46] <Minataku> But I don't know how Kubuntu does it's init process
[12:46] <NotFaint> clegg: Is GAIM not an option?
[12:46] <gravygoat> NotFaint: Check in ~/.kde/Autostart directory to see if it's in there, remove it
[12:46] <NotFaint> gravygoat: Thanks, will check.
[12:46] <user-deployment> what is klam?
[12:46] <Minataku> timmay: XLite works great with FreeWorldDialup
[12:46] <NotFaint> klam is a kde frontend for clamav
[12:46] <Minataku> Ah
[12:46] <Minataku> So it doesn't launch at boot, it launches at KDE login
[12:47] <clegg> gravygoat: notting in Autostart
[12:47] <Minataku> There's a big difference there
[12:47] <gravygoat> clegg: That was meant for NotFaint with regard to his Klamav question
[12:47] <aldin> i am testing apache with dyndns.org could someone try to open this link to see if it is working http://kapetano.dyndns.org/MSNLive.png it works for me but...
[12:47] <Minataku> clegg: Checking Autostart was for NotFaint, not you
[12:47] <Minataku> Yeah
[12:47] <NotFaint> Only .directory in the autostart directory
[12:47] <clegg> oh ^^
[12:47] <Minataku> :3
[12:48] <gravygoat> NotFaint: cool, was worth a shot I guess :-)
[12:48] <NotFaint> gravygoat: indeed
[12:48] <NotFaint> Minataku: You said that it launches at KDE login makes things different, which means what about where I look to disable it?
[12:48] <luke-jr_work> Minisip is a nice SIP client
[12:48] <clegg> oh I just realized that also konqueror does not work on the Internet
[12:48] <Minataku> NotFaint: I can't tell ya. I don't use KDE, sorry. XD
[12:48] <intelikey> sudo update-rc.d remove clamav
[12:49] <luke-jr_work> Minataku: and you're in #kubuntu? :p
[12:49] <Minataku> intelikey: Whoa now
[12:49] <Roger> hi 4 all !
[12:49] <Minataku> luke-jr_work: I use Gentoo
[12:49] <albertmk> Can anyone help me please!? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22056/
[12:49] <Minataku> I just hang out to help out
[12:49] <albertmk> Can anyone help me please?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22056/
[12:49] <NotFaint> intelikey: Was that for me?
[12:49] <Minataku> It works as long as there's nothing KDE or Kubuntu specific
[12:49] <Minataku> Which tends to be maybe 60% of the problems in here
[12:49] <intelikey> NotFaint yes.  but check the syntax
[12:49] <NotFaint> intelikey: That's to remove it coming up automatically or to uninstall it? I want to keep it...
[12:50] <Minataku> intelikey: He wants Klam to not come up at KDE login
[12:50] <intelikey> man update-rc.d
[12:50] <NotFaint> man pages aren't written for my kind of mind :P

[12:50] <Roger> me im new here.... is this chat worldwide ?
[12:51] <timmay> Minataku: Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[12:51] <Peaker> Can I tell adept to NOT suggest updating some specific packages?
[12:51] <Peaker> I want to keep my version - with my bugfixes, until upstream fixes them
[12:51] <NotFaint> Thing about man is you have to know what you're looking for, heh
[12:51] <Minataku> NotFaint: Sorry dude, RTFM or GTFO :P
[12:51] <gravygoat> Regarding adept_manager - the notice on Kubuntu.org about how to install the new KDE release talks about a "Third party software" tab and an "Authentication" tab on the "Manage Repositories" screen.  I have no tabs.  What would cause that?
[12:52] <Roger> noone looks 4 me?
[12:52] <Jucato> gravygoat: are you on Kubuntu 7.04 or on Feisty?
[12:52] <Minataku> Roger: Sorry, lots going on
[12:52] <Roger> ok minataku
[12:52] <NotFaint> intelikey: and do I need to use that on clamav or klamav
[12:52] <Minataku> Roger: Yeah, it's worldwide, but this channel is English language only
[12:52] <gravygoat> Jucato: are they not the same thing?  Yes and yes
[12:53] <intelikey> NotFaint prolly
[12:53] <Roger> thx minataku
[12:53] <Minataku> np
[12:53] <NotFaint> intelikey: prolly which :P
[12:53] <intelikey> prolly yes
[12:53] <Jucato> gravygoat: er sorry, meant Feisty or Edgy :)
[12:54] <Jucato> gravygoat: in Adept Manager -> Adept menu -> Manage Repositories.it should launch a window with the mentioned tabs
[12:54] <NotFaint> intelikey: I mean, which is it that I need to change, the entry for clamav, or that for klamav?
[12:54] <Peaker> Jucato: Any way to tell it that I want to keep the version of some of the upgradable packages, so that the update notifier doesn't retry to upgrade them every time?
[12:54] <timmay> Hey when i run some commands like ./thunderbird for instance, i seem to always get a GTK error
[12:55] <Minataku> timmay: Do you have GTK installed?
[12:55] <gravygoat> Jucato: When I click on the Adept menu and select Manage Repositories, the screen that appears shows the list of my repos and a field to add a new on at the bottom, but no tabs.
[12:55] <timmay> Minataku: Probably not, only had kubuntu for 2 days
[12:55] <intelikey> yes and i meant to be sufficiently vague as to force you to do it your self or seek someone else to do it for you.    </pouting about non-reading of manuals>
[12:55] <Jucato> gravygoat: hm... try to check if the package "software-properties-kde" is installed. if not, install it
[12:56] <Minataku> timmay: Uh... hm... let's pick some random GTK-needing software
[12:56] <Minataku> You have Firefox?
[12:56] <timmay> yea
[12:57] <timmay> can i do an apt-get install gtk?
[12:57] <Arwen> timmay, apt-get install libgtk2.0
[12:58] <gravygoat> Jucato: I did not have the package you mentioned.  Installing it "fixed" my issue, thanks very much!
[12:58] <NotFaint> intelikey: I'm looking at the man, I'm just asking you if you meant that the one for klam or for clam needs to be done
[12:59] <Jucato> gravygoat: um.... how did you install Kubuntu? fresh install? upgrade?
[12:59] <albertmk> Can anyone tell me the difference between "apt-get install" and "apt-get buid-dep" ?
[12:59] <gravygoat> Jucato: Upgrade.  I haven't reloaded since Breezy :-)
[12:59] <Minataku> timmay: Hm... you should have GTK with Firefox
[12:59] <gravygoat> Jucato: I always upgrade lol
[01:00] <Jucato> gravygoat: hm... wonder why that didn't get installed... thanks. I'll ask the devs
[01:00] <albertmk> Can anyone tell me the difference between "apt-get install" and "apt-get buid-dep" ?
[01:00] <NotFaint> albertmk: I wonder if maybe install doesn't install all the required packages, just the one you specify
[01:00] <Roger> have a good time anyone here.... im out.
[01:00] <NotFaint> altert: just my assumption, I don't actually know
[01:00] <Jucato> albertmk: apt-get install <package> installs the package. apt-get build-dep <package> installs the packages that are necessary to build/compile the package. and please be more patient
[01:00] <NotFaint> oh sweet I was right ^_^
[01:01] <Jucato> actually, both will install the "required" packages... the difference is what "required" means :)
[01:01] <timmay> Minataku: ok well with the xlite i did ./xtensoftphone and it came up with the error: Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[01:01] <NotFaint> Jucato: when you do it through adept it installs all the other packages though right, automatically?
[01:01] <Minataku> timmay: Hrm
[01:02] <intelikey> NotFaint which ever is in /etc/rc2.d/   probably klamav   but possably clamav    either way it's only  a sujestion on "how to stop 'blah' from starting at boot time"     and from now on, if you ask a Q and someone gives you a command to issue, do your self a favour and don't run it don't talk about it.  just open  man 'blah'  and see what it's for,    then note any args they added and see what they will do.    that way you
[01:02] <Minataku> !gtk
[01:02] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[01:02] <Minataku> !duh
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about duh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <Minataku> :p
[01:02] <Jucato> NotFaint: Adept has no function for build-dep or apt-get source at all
[01:02] <Minataku> !GIMP
[01:02] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[01:02] <Minataku> Oh, you ballsack bot
[01:02] <Minataku> !info gtk
[01:02] <intelikey> NotFaint and you don't get all flustered cause no one will answer you....
[01:02] <ubotu> Package gtk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:02] <Minataku> !info gtk2
[01:02] <ubotu> Package gtk2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:02] <Arwen> !info libgtk2.0
[01:02] <Arwen> !info libgtk2.0
[01:02] <Minataku> Thanks a heap, Arwen
[01:02] <ubotu> Package libgtk2.0 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:03] <Arwen> wtf
[01:03] <NotFaint> intelikey: I like to know what a command does before I execute it.
[01:03] <Jucato> er.. can we please try not to flood the channel with factoid fishing?
[01:03] <Minataku> No botsnack for you
[01:03] <Arwen> !info libgtk2.0-0
[01:03] <Minataku> You either, Jucato
[01:03] <NotFaint> intelikey: And at no point did I become flustered.
[01:03] <Arwen> :-\ lol
[01:03] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.11-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2481 kB, installed size 5372 kB
[01:03] <timmay> yea that install didn't work
[01:03] <Minataku> Finally
[01:03] <Minataku> timmay: Grab libgtk2.0-0
[01:03] <Minataku> If you already have it, tell it to reinstall
[01:03] <Minataku> JIC
[01:04] <gravygoat> quit
[01:04] <timmay> libgtk2.0-0 is already the newest version.
[01:05] <timmay> GGrrrr
[01:05] <Minataku> Does Firefox work?
[01:05] <timmay> yea
[01:05] <Minataku> That's bizarre.
[01:05] <timmay> am i doing it wrong or something....i mean i am new to this soooo
[01:05] <timmay> i untar'd the xlite tar.gz
[01:05] <timmay> then went into that folder
[01:06] <timmay> then tried ./xtensoftphone
[01:06] <Minataku> timmay: I know XMMS uses GTK
[01:06] <timmay> and got the gtk error
[01:06] <Minataku> GTK1, even
[01:06] <Minataku> Try grabbing XMMS
[01:06] <Minataku> Then see if GTK works properly
[01:06] <timmay> and when i try to do ./thunderbird i get a gtk error
[01:06] <timmay> k
[01:06] <timmay> !XMMS
[01:06] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:06] <intelikey> timmay sorry if you've already answered this, but;  you do have build-essential installed   no ?
[01:07] <Minataku> intelikey: It's not a compile
[01:07] <Minataku> It's a binary in a tar
[01:07] <Minataku> Or is build-essential required to run GTK apps?
[01:07] <timmay> <---on day 2 using kubuntu....i never used anything than windows so i dunno anything yet
[01:07] <tree_> dumb question #420  I have all the DVD codecs and drivers but i cant play DVD's
[01:07] <intelikey> timmay ok.
[01:07] <tree_> i have libdvdread
[01:07] <Minataku> tree_: libdvdcss?
[01:07] <intelikey> Minataku what was his exact error ?
[01:08] <Minataku> intelikey: Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[01:08] <timmay> oh codecs...i was working on that yesterday
[01:08] <timmay> and couldn't get it to work
[01:08] <timmay> !codecs
[01:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:08] <Minataku> !dvd
[01:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:10] <timmay> i'm not seeing XXMS anywhere
[01:10] <timmay> oh that's why
[01:10] <intelikey> xmms
[01:10] <Arwen> XMMS!
[01:10] <timmay> >.<
[01:10] <albertmk> What is the command to find a file in linux???
[01:10] <timmay> ugh which one...
[01:11] <hakaisou> !ati
[01:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:11] <intelikey> albertmk find
[01:11] <Minataku> albertmk: find or locate
[01:11] <hakaisou> !flash64
[01:11] <Minataku> Or slocate
[01:11] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:11] <SlimeyPete> albertmk: "find / -name <name>" will find all files named <name>, starting from the beginning of your filesystem
[01:11] <hakaisou> does anyone know if there is a binary for the latest ATI cards yet?
[01:11] <SlimeyPete> albertmk: "locate" is faster but doesn't always return up-to-date results
[01:11] <timmay> ok after apt-get install xmms....then what?
[01:12] <hakaisou> i wanna say yes, cause I'm not using FGLRX, but i'm not getting the issues of not using that driver.
[01:12] <hakaisou> the default driver is working fine
[01:12] <Arwen> hakaisou, how late? X1900 has one I think
[01:12] <Minataku> hakaisou: Don't hold your breath... ATI will wait for you to pass out then steal your wallet
[01:12] <intelikey> albertmk very handy command.    find /basedir/ -iname *<string in name to search for>*
[01:12] <hakaisou> I believe it's an ATI X1800
[01:12] <Minataku> As if you have anything left in it after wasting your money on their crap :P
[01:12] <hakaisou> XT model, to be sure
[01:12] <timmay> Minataku: ok after apt-get install xmms....then what?
[01:12] <hakaisou> hey, I like ATI
[01:12] <Minataku> timmay: Try to launch a GTK app again
[01:13] <Minataku> hakaisou: You shouldn't
[01:13] <Arwen> hakaisou, ATI = evil
[01:13] <Arwen> support Intel :-)
[01:13] <timmay> Minataku: ./xtensoftphone right?
[01:13] <Minataku> timmay: Sure
[01:13] <Minataku> hakaisou: They don't care about you as a person, let alone as a customer
[01:13] <intelikey> find can list file dirs links sockets and other neet stuff,  it can check for ownership and permissions    and report accordingly as well as runcommands on what it finds.
[01:13] <hakaisou> i never call them, their crap works
[01:13] <hakaisou> that's all I ask of them
[01:13] <Minataku> Not on Linux it doesn't
[01:13] <timmay> Minataku: same error
[01:13] <hakaisou> works fine for me
[01:13] <Minataku> Because they refuse to make it work
[01:13] <osiris> what is the command to make apt clean up, and uninstall extra kernels ?
[01:13] <cunde> Hello all..I need help fixing apt/apdept. I broke it and not sure how to fix it
[01:13] <hakaisou> games and all
[01:14] <Jucato> cunde: how is it broken?
[01:14] <Minataku> hakaisou: Then why are you in here asking for help with it?
[01:14] <masterk> I need linux help with my thinkpad
[01:14] <Minataku> timmay: That's confounding and I have no clue what to do
[01:14] <Jucato> osiris: you need to manually uninstall those extra kernels. but I recommend keeping at least 1 extra working kernel
[01:14] <hakaisou> i was asking if there was a new binary released you dick
[01:14] <hakaisou> it's working fine before i installed the proprietary driver
[01:14] <cunde> well I keep getting an error that says ...
[01:14] <Jucato> hakaisou: langauge please
[01:14] <hakaisou> god forbid i ask a question
[01:14] <Jucato> er.. language*
[01:15] <masterk> jeez...
[01:15] <cunde> `libpanel-applet2-0' is missing final newline
[01:15] <Minataku> hakaisou: The one that came from ATI. which is when it broke.
[01:15] <cunde> cant do anything at all
[01:15] <hakaisou> ugh...
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> WHOA
[01:15] <Minataku> Sorry, I just can't understand why anyone would willingly support the enemy.
[01:15] <hakaisou> and now for my favorite function
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> settle down children
[01:15] <intelikey> osiris the removing of extra kernels is something you will have to do manually   but   apt-get clean   will flush the cache dir
[01:15] <hakaisou> ignore.  i love it
[01:15] <Jucato> cunde: close adept, then from the command line, try this command "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> hakaisou: still having problems with fglrx?
[01:16] <hakaisou> no
[01:16] <intelikey> osiris    ls /lib/modules/    will list the kernel versions installed.
[01:16] <hakaisou> i never had issues with it
[01:16] <Minataku> Jucato: Think you can assist timmay with his GTK issue?
[01:16] <hakaisou> jeeze...
[01:16] <cunde> jucato..doesnt do anything
[01:16] <osiris> thanks all
[01:16] <hakaisou> i never, at any point, said i was having a problem
[01:16] <hakaisou> i was just asking
[01:16] <Minataku> I can't figure out why he can't run any GTK apps
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> [19:16]  <hakaisou> it's working fine before i installed the proprietary driver
[01:16] <LjL> !language > hakaisou    (hakaisou, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:16] <intelikey> osiris of course   uname -r  will list the running kernel version
[01:16] <LjL> !attitude > hakaisou    (hakaisou, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:17] <osiris> intelikey, that much i know
[01:17] <masterk> I need help making my standby and suspend and hibernate work
[01:17] <hakaisou> amazing how a simple question, yes or no even, and I get crucified!
[01:17] <osiris> i ust thought there was a "clean u" command for apt
[01:17] <cunde> just tried the clean...
[01:17] <raylu> osiris, aptitude clean?
[01:17] <osiris> possibly
[01:18] <zerothis> when i boot, sometimes my TV capture card gets used for my sound system by mistake (so i get no sound) instead of my main sound card. rebooting is the only way i've found to fix this. but now rebooting isn't helping either
[01:18] <intelikey> same thing is it not
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> hakaisou: your attitude caused that.  you mentioned you had a problem with the proprietary driver, then go nuts when i ask if you were having problems.  i hate to say this about anyone, but with your attitude, you DESERVE microsoft.
[01:19] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Buying ATI, he probably wants it
[01:19] <cunde> the full error is : (hope I am alowed to paste it all)
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> and now, i walk away from that whole situation
[01:19] <cunde> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main synaptic <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu14 [1310kB]
[01:19] <cunde> Fetched 1310kB in 57s (22.6kB/s)
[01:19] <cunde> (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/synaptic_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu14_i386.deb (--unpack):
[01:19] <cunde>  files list file for package `libpanel-applet2-0' is missing final newline
[01:19] <cunde> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:19] <cunde>  /var/cache/apt/archives/synaptic_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu14_i386.deb
[01:19] <cunde> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[01:19] <cunde> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:19] <Minataku> Since that's all ATI cards really work with if you don't want to buy a new one every year because ATI EOLs them from Linux after a very short time
[01:19] <cunde> I get that errror for any command in apt or adept
[01:20] <hakaisou> "does anyone know if there is a binary for the latest ATI cards yet?"
[01:20] <hakaisou> "i wanna say yes, cause I'm not using FGLRX, but i'm not getting the issues of not using that driver."
[01:20] <intelikey> zerothis the answer is in modprobe    rather than reboot       the file /etc/modules   and  /etc/modules.d/*   are used to control the way hardware is setup
[01:20] <hakaisou> exactly what i said
[01:20] <Jucato> !paste | cunde
[01:20] <ubotu> cunde: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:20] <cunde> sorry..wasnt sure
[01:21] <hakaisou> i wasn't having issues that i got before when i wouldn't use the driver
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want 3d, you use fglrx.  if you don't, you don't.  it's pretty simple.
[01:21] <hakaisou> AAGH!!!1
[01:21] <hakaisou> never mind
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> and buying ati, you take whatever punishment you get until they get serious about providing good drivers.
[01:21] <Jucato> hakaisou: ok... deep breaths man... deep breaths... :)
[01:21] <hakaisou> ignore again!
[01:21] <hakaisou> i love that button!
[01:22] <Jucato> hakaisou: you're going to fill up that ignore list of yours... :/
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> did i accidentally make him mad?  i was just trying to figure out what his issue was
[01:22] <hakaisou> bah...
[01:22] <hakaisou> !resolution
[01:22] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:22] <intelikey> this is not a good day for irc.
[01:23] <cunde> the 2 current suggestions did not help..are there others?
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: but it could be.
[01:23] <Jucato> hakaisou: as for your original question, I'm not sure if there's a new binary driver for ATI or if it is available in Ubuntu already. best bet would be to first check the ATI website and then try checking the repositories
[01:23] <Jucato> not using ATI, I wouldn't know...
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> common sense right there :)
[01:23] <Jucato> cunde: how about "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[01:24] <zerothis> intellikey: i think i found it "# Load saa7134-alsa instead of saa7134 (which gets dragged in by it anyway)". SAA7134 is my TV card. should i just delete this section?
[01:24] <intelikey> cunde yes  try this.     sudo rm  /var/cache/apt/archives/synaptic*  ;sudo apt-get install -f
[01:24] <zerothis> intellikey: that's in the alsa-base file
[01:25] <intelikey> zerothis comment it out.    don't delete it.
[01:25] <cunde> intelikey: same error
[01:25] <zerothis> ya, that's what i meant sorry. thanks
[01:25] <hakaisou> jucato:  thank you
[01:26] <cunde> I screwed up installing something I probably shouldnt have but now there seems to be no backtracking
[01:26] <albertmk> I need a source.list
[01:26] <corporal_clegg> hello all, I need some help... I can't connect to MSN with Kopete. When I try to connect it tells me that the password is wrong and this is dmesg's output: [ 5724.160000]  ABORTED IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=108 ID=41723 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=4390 SEQ=538461229 ACK=1836777234 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
[01:26] <albertmk> I need a source.list, please
[01:26] <Jucato> !source-o-matic | albertmk
[01:26] <ubotu> albertmk: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:27] <intelikey> cunde same ?   ...  oh  "Processing was halted because there were too many errors."  yuch  yeah i've had that.    it's a painful process of running     sudo dpkg --configure -a | less     then the first error addressing that and repeating  the process untill you get the bugs ironed out
[01:27] <zerothis> intellikey: there is a line in the section below that "options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2". this is my main sound card. should i change that number to ensure it always gets used?
[01:28] <zerothis> oops! no not my modem
[01:28] <cunde> intelikey: what exactly is all that (if you dont mind giving the basics) :
[01:28] <intelikey> zerothis i,    ah,     ummmm.     i'm not sure.   maybe you need to ask someone else on that.
[01:29] <albertmk> !source-o-matic
[01:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:29] <albertmk> ok , but when I update , many errors!
[01:29] <albertmk> why?
[01:29] <masterk> does anyone know what you need to install frostwire because it's not starting up for me?
[01:30] <Arwen> masterk, you need frostpowder.deb
[01:30] <Jucato> masterk: you also need to install Sun Java (5 or 6)
[01:30] <intelikey> cunde   sudo dpkg --configure -a 2>&1 | less    <<< that command will show you the error messages.   you start with the first  'blah depends on blah2 but is not going to be installed because..."    and you address that issue then you repete the whole process stepping through the errors until finally it finishes without error.
[01:31] <masterk> I installed JRE AFTER I installed frostwire and it won't start up
[01:31] <Arwen> Jucato, really? that sounds like one shitty p2p...
[01:31] <zerothis> sorry, my sound card is via8237, it desn't seem to be mentioned specifically in this file
[01:31] <intelikey> cunde or get frustrated and reload the os.
[01:31] <intelikey> which ever comes first.
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: frostwire.  based on limewire.  based on gnutella.  of course it's crappy.
[01:31] <cunde> Hahaha this was the last stop to that
[01:32] <intelikey> cunde yeah.    basicly you totally hosed dpkg     it is repairable.  but not fun to fix.
[01:32] <Daisuke_Ido> kbai!
[01:32] <intelikey> like i said 'been there, done that'
[01:32] <cunde> ah to have system restore (j.k.)
[01:32] <Daisuke_Ido> we're men, we fix things :P
[01:32] <cunde> :)
[01:32] <cunde> yea only after we break'em
[01:33] <intelikey> speek fo yo self white trach
[01:33] <Daisuke_Ido> that's half the fun :)
[01:33] <timmay> Minataku: issue....ID10T error....i was running in root >.<
[01:33] <Minataku> timmay: Heh
[01:33] <intelikey> i mean white bot
[01:33] <intelikey> boy
[01:33] <intelikey> bum
[01:33] <intelikey> i quit....
[01:33] <Minataku> No offense, but yeah, BIG 1D10T error there
[01:33] <timmay> yea....well after about a week it won't be excusable LOL
[01:34] <intelikey> timmay just a note    clamav's   freshclam   wont work for root
[01:35] <hakaisou> what's the command to open up the xorg.conf configuration program in Konsole?
[01:35] <Minataku> timmay: Heehee
[01:35] <intelikey> you get all kinds of fancy little error messages but nothing telling you that it wont work because you are root...
[01:35] <SlimeyPete> hakaisou: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:35] <noiesmo> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:35] <intelikey> hakaisou sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:35] <intelikey> xorg.conf configuration program<<<< ^
[01:36] <hakaisou> thanks intelikey
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> this is perhaps a bit off topic, but i look around and i see a few types of people.  there are those that help, those that don't know a whole lot but WANT to help, those that don't know anything and want to learn, and those that want everything handed to them on a silver platter...
[01:36] <bobleny> Hi, I am having a problem with a floppy disk. A 847B file was saved on it. When I later tried to retrieve the data, windows said the disk needed to be formated. On Linux, I can see the file, and I can see that the file is 847B. Linux tells me that the file can't be read. What should I do?
[01:36] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: welcome to the real world :)
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: unfortunately this was an expected side-effect of widespread use
[01:37] <intelikey> catagory 4 seems predomenant
[01:37] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: widespread or not, it's expected. the magnitude of the effect is only more felt because of widespread use :)
[01:37] <Minataku> What's an 847B file?
[01:38] <Daisuke_Ido> and i freely admit my utter disdain for the platter people, because that's the windows mentality.  and it's not always their fault, but *GRRRRR*
[01:38] <cunde> well in my defense if documentation was a little better I wouldnt be here
[01:38] <timmay> now i'm on a roll LOL
[01:38] <timmay> got sjphone working
[01:39] <intelikey> bobleny what format is the fs on the disk   windows don't do ext2 on floppies
[01:39] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: ah, not true.  "linux is for geeks" was the mantra until very recently, so the platter people existed, but in extremely diminished numbers before ubuntu hit it big
[01:39] <Daisuke_Ido> cunde: you're in category 3 :)
[01:39] <cunde> oh good
[01:39] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: well I was referring to the start of the "linux is not just for geeks" era :)
[01:39] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: well then, yes sir, you are right :)
[01:39] <cunde> :) I dont think mike D is going to help things is he?
[01:39] <Arwen> bah, Windows is just for geeks
[01:40] <Daisuke_Ido> sp/geeks/idiots
[01:40] <intelikey> cunde yes the docs are not generally writen with beginners in mind.   sad but true.
[01:40] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, have *you* tried securing a Windows-based machine? no idiot could do that :-)
[01:40] <Daisuke_Ido> well...  idiots and corporations.  but corporations tend to be run by idiots...  so i guess it still holds true
[01:40] <cunde> thats if the beginer can find them. ever tried bcm43xx ??
[01:40] <Arwen> manpages are scary
[01:41] <bobleny> intelikey: I know. It was a new floppy, a dos program saved the file to the disk
[01:41] <intelikey> Arwen go stand in the corner.
[01:41] <cunde> all dead links last time I was there
[01:41] <Jucato> isn't canonical a corporaton? :)
[01:41] <Arwen> intelikey, make me~
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: i say let them out in the wild.  enough malware will bring windows pcs worldwide to a halt, and linux will rule :)
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: Canonical is a corporation, but notice i said "tend to" :P
[01:42] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, fail....... besides, when Linux rules, there'll be malware for Linux too
[01:42] <raylu> m...probably not
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: i chose to ignore that bit >_>
[01:43] <Arwen> intelikey, nvram? eww, proprietary software
[01:43] <SlimeyPete> someone will find a way to make malware for Linux. Just like every time someone invents a new DRM scheme, another person finds a way around it.
[01:43] <Daisuke_Ido> but i can't see that being AS big a problem, since securing a linux pc is a lot easier than securing a windows pc
[01:43] <intelikey> Arwen no.  your bios
[01:43] <Arwen> oh, lol
[01:43] <Arwen> I don't have /dev/nvram
[01:43] <Arwen> HAH!
[01:43] <intelikey> hah
[01:43] <Arwen> hah
[01:43] <zerothis> thanks intellikey. It worked, i think, for now atleast i have my main soundcard back. now i'm trying find out how to mount my PC Engine backups. anybody know which channel is good for help with that?
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> i guess i'm just hoping that linux doesn't go down MS's lowest common denominator path
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> zerothis: isos?
[01:44] <bobleny> intelikey: I know. It was a new floppy, a dos program saved the file to the disk
[01:45] <intelikey> bobleny hmmm   then use the dos program to retrieve them
[01:45] <pirunga> someone know how to install feisty from dapper without upgrade and without cds, only with the iso file??
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> no?
[01:45] <Arwen> pirunga, you fail :-)
[01:45] <singinmatt13> pirunga..........is that even possible?
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> singinmatt13: it is not
[01:45] <intelikey> bobleny but if it's mounted in linux     mount   will tell you the fs type
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> pirunga: your options: burn the iso and install that way
[01:46] <zerothis> Daisuke_Ido: the program i used made two cue files, 28 mp3s and 2 iso files out of my CD. Hu-Go doesn't recognise any of them
[01:46] <bobleny> intelikey: I tired, the program dies. I know it is not the program, I've tried it on many computers and I have another disk that worked when I saved it.
[01:46] <singinmatt13> t'would be fun to have every file u wanted to be able to pull out of thin air
[01:46] <hakaisou> there
[01:46] <hakaisou> finally, my purging of all things microsoft from my machine is complete
[01:46] <hakaisou> :d
[01:46] <hakaisou> :D
[01:46] <bobleny> intelikey: the file type is vfat
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> that's a shame.
[01:47] <intelikey> pirunga you could mount the iso then mount the unionfs image and then copy the files to the hd and thus have a live HD   installed....
[01:47] <pirunga>   <singinmatt13>  <Daisuke_Ido> my idea is booting with grub to the files of the iso
[01:47] <pirunga> intelikey i am trying to figure out a way to do that, i am new to linux ;)
[01:48] <intelikey> bobleny if it's vfat   and M$ cant read it.  the disk is bad.
[01:49] <intelikey> bobleny you can copy lock the disk and do a   badblocks /dev/fd0
[01:49] <pirunga> intelikey: how can i mount the unionfs image? i have done this: mount *.iso /media/cd/ -o loop
[01:50] <hakaisou> !im
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[01:50] <bobleny> intelikey: what do you mean by "copy lock"?
[01:50] <singinmatt13> don't think 'tis possible
[01:51] <masterk> frostwire won't start...
[01:52] <masterk> help me T_T
[01:53] <intelikey> ok the union fs image will need the unionfs module inserted with the args for the image.   i don't recall the exacts but it's along the line of     modprobe unionfs /path/unionfs.image  ;mount -t unionfs /mountpoint
[01:54] <intelikey> bobleny a floppy disk,     the little plastic lock tab....
 so, how can I make a boot to there??
[01:55] <bobleny> intelikey: That command printed a list of numbers. What do they mean?
[01:55] <intelikey> pirunga you wouldn't you would copy the files out of there to a root dirrectory   and boot the system with root=/dev/<that partition>
[01:55] <intelikey> bobleny man badblocks
[01:56] <intelikey> bobleny  they are disk errors.
 i only have this partition  :/
[01:56] <tree_> when installing feisty does it matter whether you choose gdm or kdm for video?
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> ahbuh?
[01:56] <intelikey> pirunga that can change.
[01:56] <tree_> i was getting freezes and now am reinstailling , i think it wads because of flash
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> if you mean for your display manager, no, it doesn't matter, afaik
[01:57] <intelikey> bobleny here's what a good disk looks like.  tty23 [root@~]  badblocks /dev/fd0
[01:57] <intelikey> tty23 [root@~]
[01:57] <intelikey> no error means no error.
[01:57] <intelikey> no news is good news
[01:58] <masterk> can I use RPMs?
[01:58] <tree_> does anyone know if it makes a difference whether you install KDM or GDM?
[01:58] <intelikey> masterk you can but you don't want too
[01:58] <pirunga> intelikey:  sorry but I dont understand how can I do all of that
[01:58] <tree_> is GDM for gnome?
[01:58] <intelikey> tree_ no
[01:58] <singinmatt13> tree_ doesn't really matter
[01:59] <singinmatt13> personal pref
[01:59] <masterk> bad setup?
[01:59] <intelikey> tree_ gnome uses gdm by default  but it will work with kde or any other DE
[01:59] <tree_> ok thx
[01:59] <bobleny> intelikey: How do I fix these errors?
[01:59] <masterk> is java JRE in the repository?
[02:00] <tree_> i've been having some bad system freezes since i installed flash and a few other things so im strating over
[02:01] <intelikey> bobleny well   sudo cat /dev/zero > /dev/fd0  ;sudo mkfs.msdos -c /dev/fd0        would be a good place to start.  but that may not fix it.   if the disk is physically bad, and it probably is; then pitch it.
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i know there are still uses for floppies, but i can't think of an instance i've needed one in years
[02:02] <bobleny> intelikey: How do I get the data though? I don't need the floppy, I just want that file...
[02:02] <intelikey> pirunga i wont be there to hold your hand through it all.  so i probably shouldn't push you any farther in that dirrection.
[02:02] <intelikey> bobleny copy it out if you can read it.
[02:03] <intelikey> bobleny if the disk will mount copy the file to your home
  it's possible to make this stuff using some vm ?
[02:04] <bobleny> Daisuke_Ido: Our teacher had us use a DOS program that simulates PLCs. The only way to save the program was with a floppy. So, I dind't have much choice...
[02:04] <masterk> it says jre is intalled but whenever anything tries to use java it says it isnt installed
[02:04] <masterk> help please
[02:04] <Minataku> I use floppies all the time
[02:04] <intelikey> pirunga yes.   but i'm not well versed in vm's
[02:04] <Minataku> It pisses me off that the Uni techstore doesn't carry them anymore
[02:04] <Jucato> masterk: ah!! dang I forgot to mention it
[02:04] <Minataku> Those jerks making me have to drive all over the place for a pack of floppies >:|
[02:04] <intelikey> Minataku amen
[02:05] <Jucato> masterk: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:05] <mahdi_> is there an official way to set up nvidia drivers in feisty?
[02:05] <masterk> O.o you helped me out installing java like 2 days ago
[02:05] <bobleny> intelikey: I tried that, It creates a 0B file and then says it could not read the file.
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> mahdi_: yep! install them from the repositories!
[02:05] <Jucato> masterk: it slipped my mind. sorry :/
[02:06] <masterk> lol 'sokay Jucato
[02:06] <intelikey> bobleny if you can copy the file good.  but be aware that having corrupted data files is only two degrees worse than having NO data files.
[02:06] <bobleny> Will this command, "sudo cat /dev/zero > /dev/fd0  ;sudo mkfs.msdos -c /dev/fd0" erase the file that is on the floppy?
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> mahdi_: or you could just go get "restriced-manager" which will do it all automatically
[02:06] <intelikey> bobleny yes
[02:06] <mahdi_> nosrednaekim: where might I find the restricted-manager?
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: that's what's nice about my uni.  they recommend usb drives AND provide personal drive space (granted, only 20mb) on the ETCS servers
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> mahdi_: adept
ok, so i it's like this: mkdir /dev/feisty  && mount /home/*.iso /media/cd/ && cp /media/cd/* /dev/feisty/* and in the grub config file I point /dev/feisty/ ??
[02:07] <bobleny> intelikey: So then you are saying I can't retrive the file?
[02:07] <intelikey> bobleny it will overwrite the entire disk with zeros and then format it.
[02:07] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Uh, I used to be able to buy diskettes before I went home
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> mahdi_: you have to install it (its actaully a Gnome app,but you don't have to install gnome to use it)
[02:07] <Minataku> Now I can't
[02:07] <Minataku> The point isn't space or USB drives
[02:07] <Minataku> The point is that as a computer collector, I USE FLOPPIES A LOT
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, just thought about that :)
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, that would be a bummer
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> but you can always hit the local office depot/max and get a crapload :)
[02:08] <intelikey> bobleny if you can't mount the disk   you probably don't have a file to save.    and seeing that badblocks chucked out lots of blocks... most likely at least some of them are within the file.    bobleny
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> i thought you were referring to classes that required floppies :\
[02:09] <Minataku> No
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> my mistake!
[02:09] <tree_> is it best to install flash 9 through adobes site ? or repositories?
[02:09] <intelikey> floppies are good.  but small.    although like any other media if the disk is bad  it's data is most likely lost too.
[02:09] <tree_> im on a site that says you need adobe flash click here to install it
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> can you even get flash 9in the repositories?
[02:09] <tree_> nonfreeflash is in repos
[02:10] <bobleny> intelikey: I am able to mount the floppy, there is a file on the floppy, and I am unable to copy the file elseware.
[02:10] <hiturunk> God WINDOWS SUCKS!
[02:10] <hiturunk> 15 Fing virueses!
[02:10] <hiturunk> viruses*
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> hiturunk: i love it when people say that
[02:10] <intelikey> virii
[02:10] <bobleny> hiturunk: thats it!? man your lucky...
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> that windows sucks, not the virus thing
[02:11] <hiturunk> Yeah, It always has.
[02:11] <hiturunk> Well, since about 98.
[02:11] <hiturunk> It's been getting more and more controlled with each update.
[02:11] <hiturunk> NT based is about half the suck though.
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> *PETA
[02:12] <bobleny> The only good windows operating systems are the old old ones before windows 95. They where the most stable OSs....
[02:13] <intelikey> bobleny before networking ?
[02:13] <bobleny> Huh?
[02:13] <hiturunk> I've got to say, The only good non-unix based OS is Dos.
[02:13] <bobleny> Yeah, before windows came out with GUI and connected to the internet...
[02:13] <tree_> is it okay to install flash through the firefox plugin finder?
[02:13] <hiturunk> And you can't even get Dos anymore, Without going through more H**L than is possible.
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> hiturunk: freeDOS
[02:14] <hiturunk> Yeah, Tree, It is, But I suggest just manually downloading it.
[02:14] <bobleny> tree_: yeah, but it wont work...
[02:14] <hiturunk> Freedos isn't the real thing, It's a clone.
[02:14] <tree_> whats the best way hit?
[02:14] <hiturunk> Why's that, No binary files?
[02:14] <Tb0n3> how do I enable 1280x1024 in my kubuntu
[02:15] <Jack3> okay so i installed kde 3.5.7, should i be seeing anything different?
[02:15] <hiturunk> The best way is the way you suggested, But if you want the real thing, You have to buy a computer with DOS and copy the OS over to a floppy, or a zipfloppy.
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> hiturunk: what about BeOS?  or OS/2?
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Tb0n3: I assume you have an Nvidia?
[02:15] <Tb0n3> yes
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: not really
[02:15] <bobleny> Here is windows current problem, building there OSs on a fualty kernal and building their new OSs on old faulty OSs....
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Tb0n3: instll the proprietary Nvidia drivers
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> hiturunk: or you can just ask around, there are those of us with copies of MS-DOS around ;)
[02:15] <hiturunk> xD
[02:15] <hiturunk> o.o
[02:15] <Tb0n3> :( last time I tried that it sucked it
[02:15] <intelikey> get all your warez at <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:16] <Tb0n3> the nvidia-glx?
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Tb0n3: yes
[02:16] <Tb0n3> or nvidia.com one?
[02:16] <Tb0n3> oh
[02:16] <hiturunk> I'd ask for a copy for it, But I already have one =3
[02:16] <Tb0n3> I did
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> it didn't work for you?
[02:16] <Tb0n3> no
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> you did what?
[02:16] <Tb0n3> I changed to the nvidia driver in xorg.conf
[02:16] <Jack3> omg
[02:16] <Jack3> why did i installthsi
[02:16] <Tb0n3> I got the nvidia-glx
[02:16] <Jack3> i thought it was gonna be all elite
[02:16] <Jack3> :(
[02:16] <hiturunk> I have 98, XP Pro (Don't see what's so pro about it, Wizards are for n00bs, NOT PROS).
[02:16] <hiturunk> And Kubuntu.
[02:16] <hiturunk> I have Redhat on CD somewhere =P
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Tb0n3: you have the nvidia glx you installed it, you changed to the nvidia in the xorg, and nothing happened?
[02:17] <hiturunk> What's funny is, I originally got into Unix for Scripting/Hacking purposes xD
[02:17] <hiturunk> It's good for EVERYTHING except gaming though =D
[02:17] <Tb0n3> I got a lot more options for resolutions, but nothing over 1024x768
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> Tb0n3: I think you have to do some kind of nvidia reconfigure.
[02:18] <intelikey> it's good for gaming.   jsut that games aren't writen for linux
[02:18] <hiturunk> My point.
[02:18] <intelikey> no money in it.
[02:18] <Dekkard> isnt there a port of unreal for loonix?
[02:18] <hiturunk> Yes, Because the common person is to stupid to vote for a decent president.
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> Dekkard: yep
[02:18] <hiturunk> Or to manually configure a router.
[02:19] <intelikey> hiturunk hmmm if one would run maybe they would vote for him...
[02:19] <intelikey> you never know.   hasn't happened in ages.
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> Dekkard: unreal tournament, all years
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[02:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:20] <hiturunk> xD Intel.
[02:20] <hiturunk> What're you, Kidding? There NEVER has been a good president.
[02:21] <intelikey> were you there ?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> hiturunk: yeah there has... James Monroe
[02:21] <Dekkard> eisenhower.. he did very little... that is good
[02:21] <intelikey> JQA maybe...
[02:22] <Dekkard> im thinkin bill richardson
[02:22] <Dekkard> he actually has quallies
[02:22] <intelikey> who's that ?
[02:22] <Dekkard> gov richardson?
[02:22] <intelikey> ?
[02:23] <Dekkard> google man...
[02:23] <intelikey> no   off topic man.
[02:23] <Dekkard> grep richardson
[02:23] <Dekkard> lol
[02:23] <intelikey> heh
[02:24] <Dekkard> i need to learn all that..grep..groff..glob.. cat..
[02:24] <hiturunk> *pokes HackThisSite*
[02:25] <intelikey> ah man all goose eggs
[02:26] <david2> ANyone set up NeverWinters Night Platium in linux?
[02:26] <intelikey> heh.  gotta love this.    Mem usage: 13/249 MB (5%)
[02:26] <Tb0n3> can't get 1280x1024 with nvidia-glx installed
[02:26] <david2> All the sites I go to dont work right
[02:27] <hiturunk> What d'you mean David?
[02:27] <hiturunk> I might be able to help.
[02:27] <david2> I take the zip files of the cd's, the game is all leagal
[02:27] <david2> but I cant seem to get it what it needs
[02:28] <david2> http://nwn.bioware.com/support/patch_linuxhotu168.html
[02:28] <intelikey> Tb0n3 pastebin your xorg.conf    maybe someone will have a clue-by-four   for you
[02:28] <hiturunk> Hm....
[02:28] <david2> http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=417536&forum=72
[02:29] <david2> http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=562603&forum=72
[02:29] <david2> I guess it wont run 64 bit
[02:33] <intelikey> http://intelikey.pastebin.us/36657
[02:33] <calcmandan> Helping my best friend get his computer running.  It HAD FC2 on it at one point.  It worked rather well considering the version.  Trying to get 6.06 configured, however, it won't see the modem.  KPPP wants to point at /dev/modem, yet those references aren't there.  Any idea where the OS places the modem?  It is a hardware device, not a winmodem, so it should be fully supported.  Thank you.
[02:34] <calcmandan> It's also in a PCI slot.
[02:35] <intelikey> "Any idea where the OS places the modem?" <<< heh.  run   sudo wvdialconf /etc/wcdial.conf
[02:36] <intelikey> as to where the os places the modem (grins) it's probably  /dev/ttyS[0-7]     most likely 0 1 or 2
[02:36] <calcmandan> DUH, I forgot about wcdial.  Thanks, I will check it out.
[02:36] <calcmandan> Okay, thank you Intelikey.
[02:38] <hiturunk> T_T HackThisSite's fourth challenge has me stuck.
[02:38] <intelikey> " It is a hardware device, not a winmodem,"  ???  isa interface ?    if pci and it really is a hardware MoDeM   please tell me the name brand.
[02:38] <intelikey> @ calcmandan ^
[02:39] <intelikey> hiturunk what it is ?
[02:39] <hiturunk> Not much?
[02:39] <hiturunk> Just testing out my N00bness to hacking on HackThisSite.
[02:39] <hiturunk> It's pretty wicked..
[02:40] <intelikey> i meant the challange
[02:40] <hiturunk> Oh, It sends the password to the administrator, Somehow I'm supposed to intercept the e-mail..
[02:41] <hiturunk> Either by getting into the account, Or something..
[02:41] <intelikey> ah.
[02:43] <hiturunk> It's weird..
[02:44] <Tb0n3> :( pastebin isn't working
[02:44] <timmay> anyone know how i could use an IE plugin or something?
[02:45] <Tb0n3> why? would you?
[02:45] <soulrider_> hi everyone
[02:46] <Tb0n3> Query failure: Can't open file: 'recent.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[02:46] <Tb0n3> lock tables recent write
[02:46] <Tb0n3> dang pastebin
[02:46] <Daisuke_Ido> welcome back soulrider.  you missed drama!  but anyway, how did the problems with the machine go?
[02:46] <intelikey> sure hiturunk g'head
[02:47] <timmay> Tb0n3: was that directed to me? "why? would you?"
[02:47] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: i ahd all sorts lol, broke like 2 hard drives in a month :P
[02:47] <Tb0n3> yes
[02:47] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: what drama ?
[02:48] <Alonea> ok, I get on how to set a PATH in linux, but anyone happen to understand what this page means by "making sure so and so exe is in your Environmental PATH variable" means?
[02:48] <venky> anyone managed to get sound for intel HD audio realtek chip?
[02:48] <Alonea> On windows I mean, kinda wrong place to ask, but I wanted to see if anyone knew
[02:49] <timmay> i would prefer not tp use IE, but the programmers force us to run certain links in IE
[02:49] <soulrider> venky: worked out of the box for me
[02:49] <Alonea> http://pygames.sourceforge.net/ is the page
[02:50] <venky> can you tell me which laptop model u have
[02:50] <timmay> ok i got a more important question
[02:50] <timmay> how can I remote desktop into my kubuntu box?
[02:50] <venky> i have a toshiba and i have tried everything it doesnt work
[02:51] <intelikey> !worksforme
[02:51] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:52] <fnx_> i need help i dont have sound on my toshiba satellite and everything i have tried does not work
[02:53] <venky> i wonder if ubotu is a bot?
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> !botsnack
[02:53] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:53] <venky> if only i could have his expertise for some minutes!
[02:53] <calcmandan> intelikey, it is a pci hardware modem.  It was purchased about 3 years ago after some real searching.  It listed linux as supported.  I bought it, then my best friend bought it for his box.
[02:53] <calcmandan> the brand, though, escapes me.
[02:54] <fnx_> exit
[02:55] <calcmandan> it works under windows, but even running wvdialconfig didn't find it in either ttyS0 or 1.  I tried 2 and 3 to no avail.
[02:59] <intelikey> calcmandan lshw | less
[02:59] <calamari> hi
[03:01] <tree_> whats the best way to uninstall flash 9... it keeps freezing my system
[03:02] <calamari> how can I prevent the monitor from going to into power saving mode?  happens even on the kdm login page.
[03:02] <calamari> tree_: how did you install it?
[03:02] <intelikey> calamari that's a bios setting.   change the bios.
[03:03] <kgx> anyone knows how i can connect to an existing session using freenx?
[03:03] <kgx> !freenx
[03:03] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:03] <calamari> intelikey: hmm perhaps.. didn't really think of that :)
[03:03] <Daisuke_Ido> tree_: how did you install it?
[03:03] <calamari> intelikey: thanks, I'll check it out
[03:03] <awesometaco> hello
[03:03] <calamari> Daisuke_Ido: ;)
[03:04] <timmay> how can i remote desktop into my kubuntu box?
[03:04] <awesometaco> if i dual booted and i have one drive and i have acronis os selector can i just do autamatic partion?
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> just trying to get some response
[03:04] <tree_> i installed it through clicking on an adobe link in firefox
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, then...
[03:04] <tree_> sorry i was looking at another screen
[03:04] <calamari> brb, checking bios settings
[03:05] <kgx> timmay: use ssh or freen
[03:05] <kgx> timmay: use ssh or freenx
[03:05] <Daisuke_Ido> if you didn't run the installer as root, the plugin should be in /home/username/.mozilla/plugins
[03:06] <tree_> can i just delete it?
[03:06] <intelikey> " ssh the perscription for encription "
[03:07] <timmay> kgx: will this work over VPN? like my XP box VPN on my work network and SSH in and be able to use the GUI interface?
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> tree_: it seems to cause no problems, so i would say go ahead
[03:07] <intelikey> oh don't you just love adobe    just like M$ 100% closed source and they provide a simple way to install or up grade their software......    removal is forbiden.
[03:08] <Daisuke_Ido> and then you can install from the repo
[03:08] <kgx> timmay: not sure really. never tried it that way :)
[03:08] <timmay> lol
[03:09] <tree_> whats the best way to get quicktime for feisty?
[03:10] <awesometaco>  if i dual booted and i have one drive and i have acronis os selector can i just do autamatic partion?
[03:10] <tree_> i have libflash.so in ,.mozilla plugins
[03:11] <soulrider> uhm, i was just reading the back of the kubuntu CDs and they say: "Kubuntu is software libre"
[03:11] <soulrider> funny how they used a word in spanish :
[03:11] <soulrider> :)
[03:11] <timmay> anyone know how i can remote desktop from XP to Kubuntu?
[03:12] <awesometaco> tell microsoft to make the remote desktop to linux compatible
[03:12] <awesometaco> i mean why not bill gates loves linux
[03:12] <timmay> ...i'll get right on that :S
[03:12] <Ahmuck> !windows
[03:12] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:12] <Ahmuck> !boot
[03:12] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:13] <awesometaco> help
[03:13] <intelikey> soulrider es ?     not it ?
[03:13] <timmay> !remotedesktop
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <Ahmuck> !xp
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <awesometaco> umm
[03:13] <Ahmuck> i need xp.  i already have kubuntu installed.  how?
[03:13] <intelikey> "i need xp"   not.
[03:14] <awesometaco> umm
[03:14] <awesometaco> help
[03:14] <awesometaco>  if i dual booted and i have one drive and i have acronis os selector can i just do autamatic partion?
[03:14] <DaSkreech> nixternal: ping
[03:14] <intelikey> Ahmuck install from the xp install cd.
[03:14] <nixternal> DaSkreech: pong
[03:14] <intelikey> Ahmuck or am i misreading that ?
[03:14] <Ahmuck> won't that wipe out grub?  i thought there was a way to do this and save data
[03:15] <intelikey> yes it will wipe out grub.    but if you want to install windows that's what their installer does.
[03:15] <intelikey> !grub | Ahmuck
[03:15] <ubotu> Ahmuck: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:16] <DaSkreech> nixternal: I was just looking at the Kubuntu Live cd
[03:16] <DaSkreech> nixternal: it says that it ships with KDE 3.4
[03:17] <awesometaco> help please
[03:17] <nixternal> orly
[03:17] <nixternal> DaSkreech: file a bug on that one...Is that the release notes it shipped with?
[03:17] <nixternal> that isn't cool
[03:18] <DaSkreech> nixternal: not sure. it's a HTML structure I assume?
[03:18] <awesometaco> umm
[03:18] <caa1980> I have a celeron with kubuntu 7.04 will not shutdown have to click CTL + ALT +Delete at the shutdown splash screen and then it reboots not shutdown. Will if I am booting from CD but not on the HDD.
[03:18] <nixternal> hrmm
[03:18] <Alonea> kats: is it possible to compile with the Python Interactive shell?
[03:19] <DaSkreech> when You click on the word kubuntu it brings up more info
[03:19] <DaSkreech>  same for the word opencd
[03:19] <awesometaco>  if i dual booted and i have one drive and i have acronis os selector can i just do autamatic partion?
[03:19] <jjesse> i have never attached a digitial camera before and just plugged a usb drive in, should it pop in automatically and ask if i should i mount it
[03:19] <caa1980> any ideah?
[03:20] <DaSkreech> I think that you can see it in konqui with camera:/ jjesse
[03:20] <intelikey> awesometaco you may need to re-word your question.  "can i just do autamatic partion"   ???
[03:20] <awesometaco>  if i dual booted and i have one drive and i have acronis os selector can i just do the autamatic partion option on kubuntu
[03:21] <jjesse> DaSkreech: when i tyupe in camera:/ in konqi i get no items- no files -no folders
[03:21] <caa1980> I have a celeron with kubuntu 7.04 will not shutdown have to click CTL + ALT +Delete at the shutdown splash screen and then it reboots not shutdown. Will if I am booting from CD but not on the HDD.
[03:21] <caa1980> How do i get Kubuntu to shutdown properly?
[03:21] <awesometaco> as in autamatically partitions
[03:21] <intelikey> automatic partitioning ?      on the install cd ?       i would do manual partitioning.
[03:21] <awesometaco> on the install cd
[03:21] <awesometaco> oh ok
[03:21] <awesometaco> thanks
[03:21] <intelikey> welcome.
[03:23] <jjesse> ok, now if i do camera:/ in konqi i get a folder labeled "USB PTP Class Camera
[03:23] <DaSkreech> nixternal: found it it's disctree/en/kubuntu.html
[03:23] <caa1980> can i edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc?
[03:24] <caa1980> if so what?
[03:24] <caa1980> I have a celeron with kubuntu 7.04 will not shutdown have to click CTL + ALT +Delete at the shutdown splash screen and then it reboots not shutdown. Will if I am booting from CD but not on the HDD.
[03:24] <nixternal> DaSkreech: we need to get that fixed...you on it? :)
[03:25] <jjesse> hmm in digikam if i do auto-adetect a camera shows in the list, however when i go to browse it nothing shows up
[03:25] <DaSkreech> Umm :-) I guess. Where are the raw files for the ISO?
[03:25] <caa1980> i guise there is no help hear
[03:25] <jjesse> any thoughts?
[03:26] <nixternal> DaSkreech: I have no clue actually..get with Riddell on that one...maybe Hobbsee knows -devel
[03:26] <intelikey> sudo killall5 ;sudo init 0
[03:26] <caa1980> ?
[03:26] <DaSkreech> on i
[03:26] <DaSkreech> t
[03:26] <intelikey> sudo killall5 ;sudo init 0
[03:26] <caa1980> what about that?
[03:26] <tmorton> Does anyone know if there are Kubuntu Feisty vmware images yet?
[03:27] <jjesse> any more thoughts on connecting a digitial camera?
[03:27] <caa1980> I guise there is no solution to my problum yet.
[03:27] <DaSkreech> digikam;/
[03:27] <DaSkreech> ?
[03:28] <intelikey> guess nor
[03:28] <intelikey> not even
[03:29] <tree_> im now installing feisty for a third time on my other machine... it keeps freezing after i install flash 9..
[03:29] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: heehee another flash vicitm
[03:29] <tree_> next time i will be very careful how i install flash
[03:30] <tree_> ...and as i play with it to install other plugins it gets worse
[03:30] <tree_> so i am nuking and doing it slowly and right
[03:30] <tree_> i have a bad habit of copying and pasting stuff i find in google
[03:32] <linuxbomb> why would you have to reinstall everything because of flash?
[03:33] <tree_> because when firefox has multiple things installed and you dont write down stuff, it becomes nearly impossible to get back to square one
[03:33] <tree_> at least ive found
[03:34] <DaSkreech> tree_: You can purge firefox
[03:34] <tree_> I know but the plugins like flash have multiple places of sitting
[03:34] <tree_> and they seem to cling on
[03:35] <tree_> what is the way that you installed flash 9?
[03:35] <DaSkreech> Don't know I installed like Flash 6 or 7 and just been dist-upgrading since then
[03:35] <tree_> or should be considering a lower flash maybe
[03:36] <jmichaelx> alright all, how is it going with 3.5.7??
[03:36] <intelikey> clingons ?
[03:36] <tree_> when i go on a page with flash it says click here to get flash from adobe.. i do that and it has flash.. i go to a site like nhl.com or apple movies and it freezes the whole system evertytime
[03:36] <jmichaelx> clingons?
[03:36] <intelikey> shilds up.  go to warp.  clock on.
[03:37] <tree_> yup clingons
[03:37] <intelikey> arm photon cannons and open hailing freq'z.
[03:37] <tree_> or.. i install nonfreeflash plugin from repos and same thing
[03:37] <jake_> help guys.. ive just upgraded from edgy to feisty now.. when i try to connect my external hdd, it doesnt appear in the storage media. everything's fine when im using the edgy
[03:37] <tree_> fstab it baby
[03:38] <linuxbomb> tree_: it freezes the whole system huh
[03:38] <tree_> freezes so that only a restart button will do anything
[03:38] <tree_> jake u need to edit fstab
[03:38] <linuxbomb> what about ctrl alt f1?
[03:38] <tree_> not even
[03:38] <tree_> only after flash 9 install mind you
[03:39] <dwidmann> someone rang?
[03:39] <sergio82> hola alguien que hable espaol
 how?
[03:39] <sergio82> ?
[03:39] <jmichaelx> i wonder why his HD is not just mounted.... my externals mount automatically just fine in feisty
[03:39] <intelikey> do the magic sysrq's work tree_ ?
[03:39] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: was just pointing out someone reinstalling for the third time cause of flash
[03:39] <jmichaelx> !es
[03:39] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:39] <DaSkreech> !es
[03:39] <tree_> intel not sure
[03:39] <linuxbomb> I woouldn't keep reinstalling
[03:40] <tree_> this is the last time
[03:40] <tree_> its a friennds comp
[03:40] <dwidmann> Full reinstalls? Just because of flash? crazy
[03:40] <sergio82> hay otro canal en ese no hay nadie.. ?
[03:40] <tree_> and im trying desperatley to sort it out
[03:40] <jmichaelx> has anyone experienced any issues with kde 3.5.7?
 wher can i find that fstab?
[03:40] <DaSkreech> !es | sergio82
[03:40] <ubotu> sergio82: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:40] <sergio82> muchas gracias
[03:40] <tree_> jake google adding second harddrive ubuntu fstab
[03:41] <tree_> and you will get nice wtriteups
[03:42] <intelikey> dwidmann no, full reinstall just because flash was installed and he could no longer use the box because of it....       while i agree that awax'ing home and hunting down any other flash crap would be better than a reload... it might not be faster.
[03:42] <tree_> beceause its a freinds comp.. i dont want to leave him hanging with freezeups..thats why i reinstalled
[03:43] <tree_> I read a few places that flash 9 has a bug related to onboard sound
[03:43] <tree_> jake are you on KDE?
[03:44] <dwidmann> weird, how could something for the browser effect, well, everything? Anyhow, find and delete libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt ... not so hard
[03:45] <linuxbomb> I installed flash and flash doesn't work so I'm gonna reinstall everything again and install flash??
[03:45] <singinmatt13> ?????
[03:45] <tree_> dwid yes i will do that if it happens again
[03:45] <singinmatt13> like ur os?
[03:45] <singinmatt13> linuxbomb, do you mean the entire os?
[03:46] <tree_> doh
[03:46] <linuxbomb> singinmatt13: dont talk to me ok
[03:46] <singinmatt13> um.......ok then
[03:46] <_6StringKng_> how do I instal themes, lol
[03:47] <KevinAlaska> Hello everyone! :) Would anyone know if there are any problems if you choose to load codec and plugins etc in a different order then you might load the programs that would use them?  Meaning, if I choose to load some music players or video players etc after I loaded a codec in the OS would it have a problem finding them or the other way around (ie loading players then codecs.)?
[03:47] <tree_> does anyone else get freezes in flash 9?
[03:47] <tgc0d3r> Anybody have any luck with Compiz in Kubuntu on Feisty?
[03:48] <_6StringKng_> installing themes....?
[03:48] <linuxbomb> _6StringKng_: yes
[03:48] <_6StringKng_> how do you install theme, I downloaded some from kde-look.org
[03:48] <masterk> hey
[03:48] <DaSkreech> !theme
[03:48] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:49] <linuxbomb> Do you want a good osx theme?
[03:49] <masterk> is PSO available for linux?
[03:50] <luckyone> does anyone know how you get the desktop switcher to show up in the panel again once it is gone?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> luckyone: It's call the desktop pager
[03:52] <luckyone> DaSkreech: how do I add it back to the panel?
[03:52] <luckyone> DaSkreech: nm, got it
[03:53] <DerekS> will kde 3.5.7 be added to backports on feisty anytime soon?
[03:53] <DaSkreech> DerekS: read the topic
[03:53] <_6StringKng_> downloaded theme, and KDM Theme Manager, when I try to install new theme it says its not a vaild kdm file
[03:53] <DerekS> DaSkreech: i did///
[03:54] <DaSkreech> DerekS: So you can guess the answer is no :)
[03:54] <DerekS> how official are the packages on kubuntu.org?
[03:54] <DaSkreech> _6StringKng_: the file probably has a readme file. Check that
[03:54] <DaSkreech> DerekS: very officail
[03:54] <DaSkreech> offcial
[03:54] <DerekS> DaSkreech: so, it is safe to dl them?
[03:54] <DaSkreech> You know of what I speak :-P
[03:54] <DerekS> i tend to only do official ubuntu.org packages
[03:55] <DaSkreech> DerekS: It's packaged by the same man who does it for the Kubuntu Cd :)
[03:55] <DaSkreech> DerekS: the reason for it not being on the official servers is Enterprise stabilty
[03:55] <DaSkreech> So there is nothing shady going on
[03:55] <DaSkreech> DerekS: Wish choice btw :)
[03:55] <DerekS> DaSkreech: is there a more generic folder than kde-357 (something like kde-latest, but updated)
[03:56] <linuxbomb> DaSkreech: any yahoo can put a theme on kdelook
[03:56] <DerekS> DaSkreech: cool
[03:56] <intelikey> KevinAlaska order should not be an issue.  no.
[03:56] <linuxbomb> DaSkreech: so your answer very official is very wrong
[03:57] <DaSkreech> DerekS: not yet :)
[03:57] <pirunga> intelikey can u help ??
[03:57] <DaSkreech> DerekS: I think that KDE is a big enough package that you wouldn't want to wake up one day and have it changed
[03:57] <intelikey> maybe.   what's the Q ?
[03:58] <DerekS> hahah
[03:58] <DaSkreech> linuxbomb: Huh? I was talking about the KDe 3.5.7 packages on Kubuntu.org
[03:58] <intelikey> kde is a meta package.   small small small....
[03:58] <DerekS> DaSkreech: i don't know how much longer i will have kde anyways :)
[03:59] <DaSkreech> DerekS: Moving on to CDE?
[03:59] <pirunga> so... I take a partition sda2 and I paste the archives of the CD
[03:59] <linuxbomb> whatever
[03:59] <DerekS> DaSkreech: i was thinking more like busybox!
[03:59] <psdrop> ae galera estou precisando de um source.list, tem como mandar uma para mim?
[03:59] <DaSkreech> oooh
[03:59] <DerekS> or maybe no window manager
[03:59] <pirunga> now I am tryng to config the menu of grub to load the CD from my HD
[04:00] <psdrop> i need source.list
[04:00] <DaSkreech> DerekS: twm ftw!
[04:00] <psdrop> please
[04:00] <DerekS> haha
[04:00] <DaSkreech> !easysource | psdrop
[04:00] <ubotu> psdrop: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:00] <intelikey> pirunga 'brain storm'  how about you boot the cd and then copy the running system to the destination partition   ?
[04:00] <intelikey> wow that's likely to actually work for you.
[04:00] <pirunga> my CD is with some problem
[04:00] <intelikey> oh wait.  you can't boot it.
[04:00] <psdrop> i'n is brasilian
[04:00] <pirunga> so i mounted the iso and paste to a partition
[04:01] <intelikey> just remembered that you couldn't boot the cd.    hmmm   let me think.
[04:01] <DerekS> does kde have a component like seahorse for gnome?
[04:01] <intelikey> pirunga  debootstrap
[04:01] <DaSkreech> !br
[04:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:02] <intelikey> pirunga  debootstrap   might be just what you want.
[04:02] <pirunga> where can i find this? my apt is with some problem too.. I think that the sources are corrupted..
[04:02] <intelikey> !netinstall
[04:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:02] <psdrop> yes
[04:03] <psdrop> tank's daskreech
 it's a comand?
[04:03] <pirunga> opz a program
[04:03] <DaSkreech> DerekS: they have a Live Cd
[04:03] <DerekS> DaSkreech: i hate restarting my comp, and it is't stable enough yet
[04:03] <DerekS> i can wait
[04:04] <intelikey> pirunga maybe the links ^ ubotu gave might help.
[04:04] <intelikey> pirunga yes debootstrap is a command/application
[04:04] <DaSkreech> DerekS: going to wait a while :)
[04:04] <DaSkreech> I don't see Kubuntu shpping KDE4 before KDE 4.1
[04:04] <intelikey> i think actually a big perl script...
[04:05] <intelikey> lang is not important tho.
[04:05] <psdrop> i'n need source.list pt-br kubuntu 7.04                 KDE4
[04:05] <DerekS> DaSkreech: yeah, but i am sure there will be stable 4.0 packages
[04:06] <pirunga> intelikey I think that in the wiki have another and easier way let me try this first thanks
[04:06] <intelikey> that's why i pointed at it.
[04:06] <intelikey> !botsnack
[04:06] <ubotu> Yum!  But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:07] <intelikey> !botabuse
[04:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:07] <DaSkreech> DerekS: sure there are ones now on Kubuntu.org
[04:08] <intelikey> another bug in the LTS  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/36657
[04:08] <intelikey> later.
[04:09] <DerekS> DaSkreech: not stable...
[04:09] <DaSkreech> DerekS: as stable as you are going to get right now :)
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Don't worry plasma will be working in two weeks
[04:10] <DaSkreech>  Whooooot!
[04:10] <aseigo> at this pace, yep =)
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Hail aseigo  :-)
[04:10] <aseigo> ave, DaSkreech
[04:11] <aseigo> layout code for the widgets was committed today
[04:11] <DaSkreech> catching up on blogs today and saw your departure and return :-)
[04:11] <aseigo> they aren't finished yet, but it's a big step forward
[04:11] <DerekS> DaSkreech: LOL
[04:12] <aseigo> http://milliams.com/uploads/plasmacontrolbox1.mpeg <-- is neat too
[04:12] <DaSkreech> So it all runs on a data engine that you can craft thigns on top of and then craft interfaces on top of that?
[04:12] <aseigo> yep
[04:12] <aseigo> so you take Widgets and they can serve as a display for any DataEngine
[04:12] <DaSkreech> that's fascinating. all applets run on top of that?
[04:13] <aseigo> allowing artists to make pretty widgets, hackers write the engines and people can paste together their own cutesy little interfaces if they want without writing any code
[04:13] <aseigo> yes, that's the idea
[04:13] <aseigo> it also means that creating things like alternative taskbars will be quite a bit easier...
[04:14] <DaSkreech> now about the panels
[04:14] <DaSkreech> you can sculpt them?
[04:14] <aseigo> the panels use the same canvas (and widgets) as the desktop
[04:14] <aseigo> define sculpt
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Like .. well gradients is the first thing that comes to mind
[04:15] <DaSkreech> but I recall you saying that you can hang them on a corner?
[04:16] <aseigo> ah.. yeah, that's the intention
[04:16] <DaSkreech> or have it go 3/4 way across the screen then curve down and out of the way ?
[04:16] <aseigo> we haven't gotten to the panel layout code yet... though some of that i already did in kicker so will be ripping that off.
[04:16] <DaSkreech> or maybe segue into the edge of the monitor
[04:16] <DaSkreech> I'd want to have a panel go part way across the screen then have a slope
[04:17] <DaSkreech> --\
[04:17] <DaSkreech> kinda like that
[04:17] <DaSkreech> and then have one the other way
[04:17] <DaSkreech> \---
[04:17] <DaSkreech> So they sit on top of each other and the end of that one runs up the corner :)
[04:18] <DaSkreech> but in short DerekS Plasma will be there in two weeks so you will have lots to play with
[04:18] <DerekS> :)
[04:19] <pirunga> what the name of the program that name partition editor via konsole ??
[04:20] <DaSkreech> pirunga: parted
[04:30] <foxx> I'm having an issue with my sound card and wondering if anyone knows either how to reset ALL the sound settings or perhaps how to reinstall the entire sound system
[04:30] <foxx> It's the only thing I can think of since for whatever reason my VIA Envy24 chip does NOT want to change off of the optical input for timing no matter what you do.
[04:30] <ubuntu> hallo
[04:31] <ubuntu> i lost my mbr
[04:31] <ubuntu> hallo
[04:31] <DaSkreech> !mbr
[04:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:31] <DaSkreech> !sound
[04:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:31] <ubuntu> error 24?
[04:32] <DerekS> how do i use the feature in 3.5.7 to not sync all dimap folders, but staya subscribed?
[04:32] <DerekS> in kmail
[04:32] <david__> hay guys!
[04:32] <david__> any idea why kubuntu won't shut down?
[04:32] <david__> just installed it and instead of shutting down/restarting, i get black
[04:33] <foxx> Thanks, DaSkreech, but that doesn't fix my problem.
[04:34] <foxx> I was wondering if anyone knew of which packages were required in order to completely uninstall and then reinstall (or perhaps just reconfigure) the sound system
[04:35] <foxx> It was working fine until I plugged in a optical input and now it just won't come off of it, no matter what.
[04:37] <sayers> !Live DVD
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about live dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <sayers> !livedvd
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about livedvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <sayers> :*(
[04:37] <Coldwar55> ...
[04:37] <sayers> Where do I download it?
[04:37] <DaSkreech> foxx: Probably alsa
[04:38] <Coldwar55> !liveCD
[04:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[04:38] <Coldwar55> ^^
[04:38] <foxx> DaSkreech: Already tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base to no avail.
[04:38] <Coldwar55> It's a CD not DVD
[04:38] <sayers> No there is a dvd...
[04:38] <Coldwar55> oh
[04:38] <Coldwar55> heh
[04:38] <ubuntu> my group descriptor is corrupted
[04:38] <Coldwar55> I used a VD
[04:38] <Coldwar55> err CD
[04:38] <foxx> DaSkreech: What's really getting me is that none of the settings "stick."
[04:38] <sayers> that is to install
[04:38] <sayers> a live DVD runs fast
[04:38] <ubuntu> i cannot boot
[04:39] <DaSkreech> foxx: Stick?
[04:41] <Drahosh2> !live cd
[04:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[04:41] <foxx> DaSkreech: Yeah.  Such as I open up Kmix (though the same thing happens in alsamixer), change the timing to 48000 again, uncheck the recording level for the AC97 playback and....magickally it flips both of them back to IEC1724
[04:41] <foxx> DaSkreech: I've even tried it as root to no avail.
[04:42] <DaSkreech> foxx: you went through the troubleshooting link?
[04:42] <tradotto> \join #dell
[04:42] <Matt001> Hi! Does anyone know why the update notifyer displays a green ball and not an interesting icon?
[04:42] <foxx> DaSkreech: Yes, sir
[04:43] <Zeelot> hey guys
[04:43] <Zeelot> what's the easiest way to share files over 2 kubuntu desktops on my network?
[04:44] <surgy> ?
[04:44] <surgy> Zeelot: use amba
[04:44] <surgy> samba
[04:44] <david__> any idea how to install nvidia drivers?
[04:44] <surgy> !samba | zeelot
[04:44] <ubotu> zeelot: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:44] <david__> i get a generic error when installing the package
[04:44] <DaSkreech> surgy: What?
[04:44] <Zeelot> it doesn't find the it on the other computer
[04:44] <surgy> !nvidia | david__
[04:44] <DaSkreech> surgy: what about fish?
[04:45] <ubotu> david__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:45] <david__> and when i install it from the nvidia site it says "you're running an x server, kill it lol"
[04:45] <surgy> DaSkreech: fish wtf?
[04:45] <tmorton> surgy, Konq's interface for ssh
[04:45] <tmorton> ssh/sftp/scp
[04:45] <pirunga> sources ??
[04:45] <pirunga> for dapper
[04:45] <DaSkreech> tmorton: thank you
[04:45] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[04:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:45] <surgy> tmorton: DaSkreech did i miss something?
[04:45] <tradotto> Anyone know where I can go to find out if My mother board has an agp slot, not just looking inside the case because there is no slot there but there are solider pads so I am asking how to find out if my mother board could acomodate a agp slot....
[04:46] <david__> ubotu: that tells me to use the package
[04:46] <david__> but the package manager shits on me whne i try
[04:46] <DaSkreech> surgy: you don't use samba to share  files linux <--> linux
[04:46] <DaSkreech> !language
[04:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:46] <Zeelot> hmm sorry...duno what happened
[04:46] <RadiantFire> Zeelot: ssh is probably one of the easiest ways
[04:46] <Zeelot> so linux<->linux still use samba?
[04:47] <surgy> DaSkreech: i do
[04:47] <Zeelot> how do I allow that?
[04:47] <foxx> DaSkreech: I dunno, I use Samba instead of NFS.  Works fine for me (homogeneous Linux network)
[04:47] <RadiantFire> Zeelot: consider ssh + avahi
[04:47] <DaSkreech> surgy: I'm not saying you can't
[04:47] <KevinAlaska> Hello everyone! :) Would anyone know if there are any problems if you choose to load codec and plugins etc in a different order then you might load the programs that would use them?  Meaning, if I choose to load some music players or video players etc after I loaded a codec in the OS would it have a problem finding them or the other way around (ie loading players then codecs.)?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> I'm saying why would you want to?
[04:47] <RadiantFire> Zeelot: you install openssh-server on the computer you want to be the file server, and th en from the client computer, type fish://username@<server hostname>.local
[04:48] <Zeelot> alright thanks
[04:48] <foxx> DaSkreech: Depends on your needs.  NFS tends to trust the end systems are who they say they are, SMB does not.
[04:48] <surgy> DaSkreech: for the pointy clicky easyness
[04:48] <RadiantFire> Zeelot: you can also add it as a "network place" in konqeuror the same way
[04:48] <DaSkreech> foxx: Yeah but ssh is paranoid and easy
[04:48] <DaSkreech> surgy: fish://
[04:48] <foxx> DaSkreech: not for raw mounting it's not
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Point click easy :)
[04:49] <foxx> DaSkreech: Tried tunneling my directories on my media server locally on this system...nasty.
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Kio slaves rock
[04:49] <foxx> DaSkreech: Only way was to set it up  with Samba, use a credentials file for automation, then mount them at boot time.
[04:50] <foxx> DaSkreech: So now Amarok for instance can actually read and write my music collection across the network since it doesn't understand any network protocols
[04:50] <DaSkreech> KIO slaves :)
[04:50] <DaSkreech> makes it invisible to the apps underneath
[04:51] <DaSkreech> i have most of my Video files on a server and play them over fish
[04:51] <david2> Anyone got some useful sites for a network scanner?
[04:51] <david2> shfs
[04:51] <david2> sshfs
[04:52] <DaSkreech> david2: that as well
[04:52] <DaSkreech> never tried it :)
[04:52] <DaSkreech> but it works for non KDEians
[04:53] <foxx> I'll take a look into KIO Slaves but I'm rather pleased with how well Samba's worked now.
[04:53] <david__> anyone know how to change playback audio device?
[04:53] <david__> the mixer shows me both devices
[04:53] <david__> but i can't make amarok use my 2nd device, my soundcard
[04:53] <david2> man alsamixer
[04:53] <david2> you can choose the card
[04:54] <DaSkreech> foxx: again didn't say it didn't work :0
[04:54] <david__> how do i man alsamixre?
[04:54] <david2> in a console
[04:54] <david2> you can blacklist the module of the card you dont want
[04:54] <david2> so it only loads one card
[04:54] <foxx> DaSkreech: Of course not, I'm just affirming a curiosity whilst reserving a right to my own opinion (there, that's nice and dragged out...I think I just beat it to death ;) ).
[04:56] <foxx> It's okay...we'll just shove NFS up its rear and it'll be good as new
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Neo Fart stopper?
[04:56] <foxx> Something like that
[04:56] <david__> david2, i want both cars
[04:56] <KevinAlaska> Anyone know if it matters to player programs (video, audio etc) if codec files etc are installed before or after the player programs are installed?
[04:56] <foxx> More like Network File Screwer
[04:56] <david__> in gnome ubuntu its easy to set
[04:57] <david__> theres an easy setting thing like in windows where you pick it
[04:57] <DaSkreech> KevinAlaska: they care bout it on startup
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> KevinAlaska: most of the time, no
[04:57] <DaSkreech> they don't really care when the codec was installed
[04:57] <foxx> KevinAlaska: Not to my knowledge really, just restart the app
[04:57] <david__> is there a way to get a gui alsamixer? i usually get a bunch of erros when i do things in the console
[04:57] <david2> You'll need to google it.. Linux sound system works differently...
[04:57] <KevinAlaska> cool beans!!  thanks folks! :)
[04:57] <david__> k
[04:57] <DaSkreech> !CODECS
[04:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> KevinAlaska: most apps looks in standard locations for the codec files
[04:58] <david2> You'll prolly get a lot a /dev/dsp busy's
[04:58] <tmorton> david__, kmix is like alsamixer but gui, sorta
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> KevinAlaska: seperate from the actual prog install location
[04:58] <KevinAlaska> ahh.. that helps. :)
[04:58] <KevinAlaska> woot.. love learning something new.. cheers
[04:59] <DaSkreech> KevinAlaska: hang out here
[05:00] <ubuntu> how do i restore grub with a kubuntu live cd?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> somethign new every day
[05:00] <DaSkreech> !mbr
[05:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:00] <ubuntu> im booted into it right now
[05:00] <david2> I have gas....
[05:00] <DaSkreech> david2: above or below market prices?
[05:00] <david2> free it appears
[05:01] <DaSkreech> They do
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> make my trips to taco bell cheaper :)
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Just couple thousand year old methane :)
[05:02] <surgy> anyone here have any experience with carputers?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> surgy: Outside of a hammer..... no
[05:03] <mikeo1> i have 2 stage 1s for grub, how do i know what the right one is?
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> i swapped one out once
[05:03] <surgy> DaSkreech: i mean a pc built to run inside of a car, not an ECU or engine management
[05:03] <DaSkreech> mikeo1: rename one. if it doesn't boot back up that was the wrong one
[05:04] <mr> i'm stuck trying to compile tk8.5-dev
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> and they said cell phones were road hazards :)
[05:05] <KevinAlaska> cell phones are not hazards.. its the nuts who can't multitask! :)
[05:05] <mrwizrd> haha
[05:05] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: solitaire will claim more lives than *
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:05] <david2> I think I need to back up and figure out how to use IRC
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> ", jack on the queen and OMG!!!!"
[05:05] <david2> I dont know what half the "!"  Do you know if Quanta Plus has spanish language?
[05:06] <mrwizrd> night guys
[05:06] <DaSkreech> night
[05:06] <surgy> lol you guys are joking me
[05:07] <surgy> never seen a carputer?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:07] <DaSkreech> surgy: is this bought or built?
[05:07] <surgy> built
[05:07] <DaSkreech> ah then perhaps
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> what, like an integrated system for radio, gps, anti-theft, etc?
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> all on one ui?
[05:09] <surgy> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.stuffandting.com/galleria/photos/computing/carputer-mk2/screen.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.stuffandting.com/carputer/&h=640&w=480&sz=46&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=QYdpFlc6N-pLQM:&tbnh=137&tbnw=103&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcarputer%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
[05:09] <dr_willis> seen them used for media playera mainly
[05:09] <surgy> hitmanWilly: yes exactly, and movies mp3 and dvr satelite tv whatever
[05:10] <surgy> well i want to run kubuntu in my car
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> ok, now i see...about what i figured
[05:10] <surgy> so i can have a karbutu
[05:10] <mahdi_> i know i've asked this before, but whats the name of the x screensaver extension header?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> ++surgy
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> surgy: new kde app, karr
[05:10] <Zeelot> hellooo, another question
[05:10] <surgy> lol
[05:11] <DaSkreech> !ask
[05:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> surgy: or maybe KITT?
[05:11] <Zeelot> ssh worked but if I want to watch a file from this dekstop on the other what should I use
[05:11] <Zeelot> and I didnt ask to ask
[05:11] <surgy> whould you guys be interested in a project like that? of course i whould supply the car the hardware and built/mount it
[05:12] <dr_willis> Zeelot,  theres the sshfs stuff. or perhaps use smb4k to mount samba shares.. or mount the samba shares manually or  other ways...
[05:12] <surgy> i just need the os to be tweaked and turned inside out
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Kitt? what's KITT?
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> surgy: honestly, i wouldn't use buntu for that, maybe DSL or something similar
[05:12] <surgy> meet me in off topic?
[05:12] <Zeelot> dr_willis:  what would you suggest out of those?
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: sorry, they always had it in all caps on the show...
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Zeelot: open konqueror and type fish://username@othercomputer:/path/to/directory
[05:13] <surgy> hitmanWilly: care to ellaborate in offtopic?
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Right click and open in app of your choice
[05:13] <Zeelot> I want a permanent solution something that can mount a drive every time
[05:13] <dr_willis> Zeelot,  depends on your needs. I use smb4k to view/mount the samba shares on my fileserger to let me watch videos
[05:14] <Zeelot> videos mostly yea
[05:15] <dr_willis> the point to note is that the built in kde filemanager samba 'browser' woll work like a web browser.. download THEN play the files..
[05:15] <dr_willis> to get them to play on the fly. you need to get the samba share mounted.
[05:15] <ubuntu_brasil>  tenho uma duvida quanto a instalacao do ubuntu, alguem poderia me ajudar:
[05:15] <Zeelot> alright and smb4k is what does that?
[05:16] <ubuntu_brasil> eh sobre a particao do hd
[05:16] <dr_willis> !info smb4k
[05:16] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-1build1 (feisty), package size 1762 kB, installed size 3756 kB
[05:16] <ubuntu_brasil> se da pra faze-la com o windows ja instalado sem perder os dados
[05:16] <dr_willis> I like smb4k thers proberly other similer tools out.
[05:16] <dr_willis> !es
[05:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:16] <Zeelot> thanks I'll give that a try now
[05:16] <DaSkreech> !br
[05:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:17] <ubuntu_brasil> ok
[05:18] <voidmage> how do i install nvidia's beta driver?
[05:19] <dr_willis> i belive the nvidia  ubuntu wiki page has a link/section on using the latest nvidia drivers.
[05:19] <Zeelot> dr_willis:  how do I find the shared drive? the scan comes up empty (this was why I did ssh in the first place, samba didn't work)
[05:19] <DaSkreech> !nvidia
[05:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:19] <Zeelot> I have the drive shared on this desktop
[05:19] <dr_willis> Zeelot,  hmm.. set up samba. :P
[05:19] <Zeelot> it is
[05:19] <dr_willis> set it up correctly heh .
[05:20] <dr_willis> how did you 'share' the drive on what desktop?
[05:20] <Zeelot> system settings
[05:20] <dr_willis> i always just share the 'homes' on the linux box.
[05:20] <dr_willis> i do that by editng the samba.conf  - you DID install samba?
[05:20] <Zeelot> I am sharing /media/sda5/
[05:20] <Zeelot> yes samba is installed
[05:21] <mahdi_> what is the name of the package that covers "X Screensaver extension header file"?
[05:22] <dr_willis> Zeelot,  i always edit the smb.conf to share the homes, makes them writeable, and then i add a smbpasswd for each linux user i want to have access.
[05:22] <dr_willis> not sure if that last part is needed any more
[05:22] <mike0002> anyone good with grub?
[05:22] <dr_willis> be syre your workgroup is correct also
[05:22] <mike0002> i keep getting error 15 file not found in stage 1.5, but when i browse the filesystem both files are there, how do i fix this?
[05:23] <dr_willis> could be grub is confiured to look on the wrong harddrive/parttion for that file.
[05:23] <KevinAlaska> okay.. getting a message now that reads "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept applicatin or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."  but problem is I do not have any others running. :(
[05:23] <dr_willis> !fixapt
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <dr_willis> hmm
[05:23] <dr_willis> thers a factoid for that..
[05:23] <dr_willis> !aptfix
[05:23] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:24] <KevinAlaska> ahhh.. ubotu.. it did crash.
[05:24] <KevinAlaska> GOD.. I am such a noob. =/
[05:25] <mike0002> i only have one kernel that grub will boot and it gives init[1]  trap invalid opcode rip:80511ec rsp:ffec64b8 error:0
[05:25] <dr_willis> mike0002,  has this system ever worked?
[05:26] <mike0002> yes
[05:26] <mike0002> i just havnt used it in a while
[05:26] <dr_willis> sounds like you may want to be booting a live cd and backing up any imporntant files..
[05:26] <mike0002> hd is fine
[05:26] <dr_willis> i cant recall EVER seeing that sort of error message
[05:26] <mike0002> what is an opcode?
[05:27] <dr_willis> opcodes are the actual instructions the cpu gets
[05:27] <dr_willis> like a program was garbled and the cpu tried to run it
[05:27] <mike0002> thats weird
[05:27] <dr_willis> very weird
[05:27] <DaSkreech> It's an operation code sent to the processor ofr it to do one calcualtion/operation
[05:27] <dr_willis> almost sounds liek it MAY be a cpu or memory issue
[05:28] <KevinAlaska> Ubotu, what is that last symbol at the end of that text?
[05:28] <dr_willis> !bot
[05:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:28] <mike0002> computer works fine in vista
[05:28] <mike0002> or on live cds
[05:28] <DaSkreech> !thank you
[05:28] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:28] <dr_willis> mike0002,  sounds like it may be a HD issue then
[05:28] <dr_willis> of course the livecds dohave that MEMTEST option. may be a good idea to let that run overnoght to test the ram
[05:29] <mike0002> hd has never had any problems on the ntfs partition on the drive
[05:29] <dr_willis> mike0002,  and that PROVES the linux part dosetn have issues? :)
[05:29] <Matt001> Hi, who is the forum administrator?
[05:29] <dr_willis> fsck the disk from a livecd to check it as another test
[05:29] <mike0002> i think vista screwed up grub
[05:29] <dr_willis> mike0002,  i would not be suprised.. but no proof of that.
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Eh?
[05:30] <mike0002> while i always get tons of fsck errors when it boots on hda1 but that has been that way for like 2 years now
[05:30] <mike0002> hda1 is only used for storage, nothing runs off it
[05:30] <dr_willis> ugh...  and  you never though to fix that issue eh? :)
[05:30] <mike0002> it fails to fix it every time
[05:31] <dr_willis> live cd - fsck it manually... then see.
[05:31] <mike0002> and hda1 shouldnt affect sdb2
[05:31] <dr_willis> if it keeps comming back.. well... time to get a new hd.
[05:31] <dr_willis> 'shouldent'
[05:31] <mike0002> that hd isnt being used for anything
[05:31] <dr_willis> you just said the system wasent booting however...
[05:31] <dr_willis> so it may be the kernel file thats currupted
[05:32] <mike0002> can a kubuntu 7.04 amd64 cd repair it
[05:32] <dr_willis> any live should be able to fsck the disks
[05:32] <mike0002> no i mean repair the linux install
[05:32] <mike0002> nothing is wrong with the disk its running on
[05:33] <dr_willis> 'nothing is wrong' is somthing ive not seen proven. :) fscking it from a live cd' will be a step to test that.
[05:33] <dr_willis> its possible somthing was wrong at one time.. and got  fixed - improperly
[05:34] <mike0002> no hda1 is all screwed up but nothing is running from it
[05:34] <mike0002> so it shouldnt matter
[05:34] <mike0002> the other disks never give any errors
[05:34] <mike0002> hmmm ill just reinstall
[05:36] <Zeelot> blah...I can find this computer from the other but when I try to open it with smb4k it gives me access denied and a login screen...but I have the allowed users set and it's correct.
[05:36] <dr_willis> well youve just eliminated EVERYTHING that could be wrong.. so it must be working right.. :)
[05:36] <Zeelot> -_-
[05:36] <dr_willis> Zeelot,  you cant even see the other pc? or  can you see the shares but not access them?
[05:37] <Zeelot> I can see the pc
[05:37] <Zeelot> by searching for the local ip
[05:37] <Zeelot> it finds MSHOME->ZEELOT but wont let me in
[05:37] <Lichte> how do I get this stupid network manager to remember my domain name between startups ??
[05:37] <Zeelot> to mount anything
[05:37] <dr_willis> did it mention somthing about 'smbmnt' needing to be suid in a error box?
[05:38] <Lichte> I sick and tired of configuring my network everytime I boot up
[05:38] <Zeelot> nope
[05:38] <dr_willis> Zeelot,  odd.  try running smb4k with sudo perhaps. from a terminal.
[05:38] <dr_willis> its possible you are missing some needed smb related commands
[05:39] <RadiantFire> Zeelot: this is a known problem, google for suid smb4k and there is a solution
[05:39] <RadiantFire> Zeelot: you have to issue 2 commands in the terminal, I just can't remember what they are
[05:39] <dr_willis> heh -  sudo chmod +s `which smbmnt` (I THINK) is one of them
[05:39] <Zeelot> same thing acces denied
[05:39] <Zeelot> ok I'll google
[05:39] <dr_willis> it always poped up a error box on my machine so i saw what commands it wanted to suid
[05:40] <RadiantFire> Zeelot: did ssh server not work?
[05:40] <RadiantFire> dr_willis: have you tried configuring it in system settings?
[05:40] <Zeelot> ssh did but it downloads the file before playing? I really just want to mount and use as if it was local
[05:40] <dr_willis> RadiantFire,   nope. :) ive used it enoguh to rember the commands. and edit smb.conf manually
[05:40] <Zeelot> I play big 2-4gig video files
[05:40] <RadiantFire> Zeelot: there is a fuse mount for ssh
[05:41] <dr_willis> i mentioned that sshfs stuff earlier. :) and thers a fuse samba thing also.
[05:41] <RadiantFire> I personally hate samba, I think its a horrible pain
[05:41] <Zeelot> so what should I use >_>
[05:41] <dr_willis> i have fought so much with samba.. that i can get it going rather fast now a days
[05:41] <RadiantFire> whatever works
[05:41] <dr_willis> check the samba logs perhaps on the remote box.
[05:41] <dr_willis> it maybe somthing trivial going wrong.
[05:43] <albertmk> Someone help me   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22096/
[05:44] <dr_willis> care to give a little bit of detail albertmk ?
[05:44] <albertmk> I have just installed Ubuntu and when I type "sudo apt-get update" , many errors.
[05:45] <Lichte> how do I get this stupid network manager to remember my domain name between startups ??
[05:46] <albertmk> I am almost sure that it is because of source.list.... but I do not know what to do
[05:46] <dr_willis>  Could not connect to br.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[05:46] <dr_willis> server is down - looks like.
[05:47] <KanRiNiN> I'm trying to change my KDE theme which requires administrator mode but there's no button for it..
[05:47] <dr_willis> KanRiNiN,  hmm.. that shouldent need to be admin mode.
[05:47] <dr_willis> unless you are refering to a KDM theme.
[05:47] <albertmk> Can anone help me please?
[05:47] <dwidmann> KanRiNiN: sure there isn't a scroll bar, or perhaps you need to change the windows size to something, well, huge
[05:47] <dr_willis> try maxamizing the window. some times the button is hiding  at the bottom of the window
[05:47] <dwidmann> albertmk: you can start by pastebinning the errors
[05:48] <dr_willis> albertmk,  edit the sources.list to use another server.. could try removing the 'br.' part of the server name
[05:48] <albertmk> (12:43:33 AM) albertmk: Someone help me   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22096/
[05:48] <dr_willis> example line from that paste -->  Could not connect to br.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[05:48] <Lichte> when I try to play an mp3 in amarok, it gives a dialog box asking if I want to install codecs for mp3 and then locks up..........can someone tell me what file I need to install to get mp3 capability ?
[05:48] <KanRiNiN> dwidmann: Yes I'm sure
[05:48] <KanRiNiN> I'm running Feisty, up to date
[05:49] <dr_willis> Lichte,  run amarok from a terminal.. i recall there being some bug with that.
[05:49] <dr_willis> Lichte,  some how i got it working a few weeks ago
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> I want to avoid doing a clean install..even though it's the most intelligent option
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> under System Settings, then Appearance.
[05:49] <Lichte> thanks dr_willis
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> and I can't change it without administrator mode
[05:50] <albertmk> Can you pass me yours source.list?
[05:50] <albertmk> Can anyone pass me the source.list ?
[05:50] <Lichte> now can someone tell me how to fix this idiotic networkmanager ?
[05:50] <albertmk> Maybe it will make it get fixed.
[05:51] <Zeelot> I still get a permission denied even with sshfs
[05:51] <dr_willis> !easysource
[05:51] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:51] <Lichte> dr_willis: that didn work, amarok is locked up again
[05:51] <Jucato> karmikaze: no need for any reinstall. just press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"
[05:51] <Jucato> er sorr wrong person
[05:52] <Jucato> KanRiNiN: no need for any reinstall. just press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"
[05:52] <albertmk> thanks willis and thanks Bot
[05:52] <dr_willis> Lichte,  id say check tghe forums - i cant rember how i made the system doit. it may of been totem thatinstalled them for me.
[05:52] <dr_willis> !mp3
[05:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:52] <Lichte> dr_willis: do you know the name of the files I need to install ?? Il just apt-get em
[05:52] <dr_willis> Lichte,  not really. try apt-cache search mp3
[05:53] <Lichte> ok
[05:53] <dr_willis> the kubuntu Faq at one time mentioned them
[05:53] <RadiantFire> Lichte: mp3 playback you need a package like xine-ffmpeg
[05:53] <KanRiNiN> Jucato: you may be God
[05:53] <RadiantFire> Lichte: or something like that
[05:53] <Jucato> KanRiNiN: You think so, too? :P
[05:53] <Jucato> Lichte: libxine1-ffmpeg (if you're on feisty)
[05:53] <Jucato> libxine-extracodecs for Edgy and Dapper
[05:54] <KanRiNiN> where are the themes stored though?  usr/..?  I don't want theme cluttering the home folder
[05:54] <dr_willis> they can go in .kde/somthing and not clutter the folder.
[05:54] <Zeelot> nevermind got it, little fuse permission bug ^_^ thanks for the help
[05:54] <dr_willis> its provberly safer to let them get installed on a per user basis
[05:54] <Jucato> KanRiNiN: depends on what themes
[05:55] <KanRiNiN> KDE window themes, for example
[05:55] <mahdi_> what file does "configure: error: X Screensaver extension header files not found!" refer to?
[05:55] <Jucato> KanRiNiN: window decorations and widget styles are installed like programs, so they have to be in /usr, unless you compiled them to be put somewhere else
[05:56] <albertmk> can anyone explain me what "source.list~" is used for?
[05:56] <jake_> guys help please my adept crashes.. somebody plaese give to fix my adept
[05:56] <Jucato> albertmk: it's a "backup" file that's automatically created by kate whenever you save a file
[05:56] <KanRiNiN> alright sounds good.  I tried beryl under gnome but it performed poorly.  Mind you this was in the alpha stages.  How's it under KDE?
[05:57] <Jucato> KanRiNiN: hit or miss thing.. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
[05:57] <albertmk> jucato: thanks a lot
[05:57] <Jucato> when it works, it's great. when it doesn't, it sucks :)
[05:57] <jake_> guys a command please, how do i fix my adept?
[05:58] <KanRiNiN> Yeah.  It didn't increase my productivity and was pretty useless.
[05:58] <KanRiNiN> Although it rendered great on my ATI 9000 using XOrg drivers
[06:00] <Lichte> !avi
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[06:00] <Lichte> !xvid
[06:06] <david2> this is getting fing annoying...
[06:07] <david2> what stinking patches and cleint files do ya need for nwn lol
[06:08] <dr_willis> david2,  Never Winters Nights?
[06:08] <dr_willis> david2,  i never did get that going either.
[06:09] <david2> I did once
[06:10] <david2> had to reformat the drive
[06:10] <david2> cause I did something stupid
[06:10] <david2> and cant get it back lol
[06:11] <arun> is there any way to minimise ktorrent to the panel?
[06:11] <arun> i keep closing it thinking it will get minimised, and it exits
[06:11] <arun> gah
[06:11] <dr_willis> Hmm i just hit the minimize button and it does it
[06:11] <dr_willis> IF theres torrents being downloaded/seeded
[06:11] <arun> mine minimises to the taskbar
[06:11] <dr_willis> check the settings
[06:12] <arun> now it just shows me the icon in the panel
[06:12] <arun> but it's minimised in the taskbar as well
[06:13] <arun> any ideas?
[06:14] <dr_willis> check its settings.  I got ktorrent on the box int he basement.. so not sure - im sure it can minimize to the systemtray area only
[06:14] <dr_willis> or use that kstart (i think ) program
[06:14] <dr_willis> connecting to the Linux box via xdmcp so i cant run ktorrent again on this box. (since it dont like being ran twice) heh
[06:22] <luckyone> ktorrent is jacked for me too - what is going on with it?
[06:23] <raylu> i'm using it right now, it's fine
[06:23] <raylu> port forwarding?
[06:23] <arun> works fine for me, only thing is can't minimise it to the panel
[06:25] <raylu> that's in the options somewhere
[06:25] <RawSewage> http://www.google.com/trends?q=kubuntu&ctab=0&hl=en&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[06:25] <dr_willis> Hmm.. I run ktorrent and it instantly minizimes to the  icontray area.
[06:25] <dr_willis> or whatever ya call it.
[06:25] <dr_willis> niot the normal task-list
[06:26] <raylu> oh
[06:26] <raylu> that's the default behavior
[06:27] <arun> doesnt work like that for me
[06:27] <ulmolavender> and of course, GNU always plays second fiddle. http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+linux%2C+GNU&ctab=0&hl=en&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[06:27] <dr_willis> thats how i want it.:) not sure what arun wants :)
[06:27] <dr_willis> arun,  you using feisty?
[06:27] <arun> dr_willis: that's what i want too, but it doesn't work like that for me
[06:27] <raylu> he wants it in the application list (as in not sys tray)
[06:27] <arun> yes, i'm on feisty
[06:27] <dr_willis> arun,  try a new user with new default kde settings.
[06:27] <arun> i want it to be minimised to the icontray
[06:27] <arun> ok..
[06:28] <raylu> oh. settings > configure ktorrent > general > show system tray icon
[06:28] <dr_willis> its possible it cant hide from the tasks  untill restarted once you set that.. not sure. :)
[06:29] <arun> ah maybe i have to restart it
[06:29] <arun> hold on
[06:29] <arun> let me try that
[06:30] <arun> aah got it
[06:30] <arun> i have to click the close button to minimise to icontray once i enable that option
[06:30] <lobster> what is up, Kcats?
[06:30] <arun> cool
[06:30] <arun> life is good again
[06:30] <dr_willis> unless theres no torrents getting worked on.. thenit will close Ibelive
[06:31] <arun> that's alrigt
[06:31] <arun> thanks ppl
[06:32] <orehon> Anyone know any good dictionary to kde or gnome?
[06:34] <draik> Does anyone know of the channel for books? Nothing special, just about authors and writing your own books, etc.
[06:34] <draik> !books
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about books - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <draik> Haha @ ubotu
[06:34] <raylu> i see opendict
[06:35] <raylu> dict and dict servers. and freedict
[06:35] <KevinAlaska> Anyone know what to do with this error message given by "Adept Installer" message reads "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." Any ideas? :(
[06:37] <raylu> KevinAlaska, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:37] <Zeelot> helloooo, how can I change how konqueror lists files? I prefer the filename list to the big thumbs
[06:37] <raylu> KevinAlaska, (make sure to close adept first)
[06:37] <KevinAlaska> okay thanks.. :) did I say thanks?!  :)
[06:37] <arun> Zeelot: View > Sort >
[06:38] <arun> sorry
[06:38] <arun> View > View mode
[06:38] <raylu> i think he wants it to default
[06:38] <arun> you have a whole bunch of ways you can use to list file
[06:38] <arun> s
[06:38] <Zeelot> yes will this be default for all dirs?
[06:39] <arun> Zeelot: yes
[06:39] <arun> until you change it again
[06:39] <Zeelot> alright thanks alot ^_^
[06:39] <Zeelot> perfect
[06:39] <lobster> nope, not good enough.
[06:39] <Zeelot> hmm, untill I restart konqueror
[06:39] <klobster> tolerable.
[06:39] <Zeelot> I need it to stay forever
[06:40] <KevinAlaska> hummm.. "Errors where encoutered while processing:"  is there a way I can copy and past from a terminal?
[06:40] <raylu> KevinAlaska, right-click
[06:40] <dr_willis> set up a profile you perfer. saveit as the default
[06:40] <KevinAlaska> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of sun-java6-plugin: sun-java6-plugin depends on sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2); however:
[06:40] <KevinAlaska>   Package sun-java6-bin is not installed.
[06:40] <KevinAlaska> dpkg: error processing sun-java6-plugin (--configure):
[06:40] <KevinAlaska>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:40] <KevinAlaska> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ubuntu-restricted-extras:
[06:40] <KevinAlaska>  ubuntu-restricted-extras depends on sun-java6-plugin; however:
[06:40] <KevinAlaska>   Package sun-java6-plugin is not configured yet.
[06:40] <KevinAlaska> dpkg: error processing ubuntu-restricted-extras (--configure):
[06:40] <KevinAlaska>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:41] <KevinAlaska> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:41] <KevinAlaska>  sun-java6-plugin
[06:41] <KevinAlaska>  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:41] <KevinAlaska> was the output....
[06:41] <KevinAlaska> ooops.. first line is actually first two lines of output
[06:41] <Zeelot> how do you save a profile as the default?
[06:42] <dr_willis> save view profile...
[06:42] <dr_willis> default name seems to be 'file management' :)
[06:42] <dr_willis> since th4ers only 2 of them
[06:43] <dr_willis> There is a package of addational (and usefull) profiles
[06:44] <Zeelot> called?
[06:44] <Zeelot> the default is the other one heh got it
[06:44] <raylu> KevinAlaska, are you on edgy?
[06:45] <KevinAlaska> fiesty
[06:45] <raylu> o.0
[06:45] <KevinAlaska> heh.. don't make eyes like that.. it troubles me. =P
[06:45] <raylu> ok, install sun-java6-bin...though i think you may need to uninstall sun-java6-plugin and ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:46] <Zeelot> well good night, thanks for helping me all day =)
[06:46] <boyke> helo
[06:46] <KevinAlaska> I was trying ot uninstall when that error came up.
[06:47] <Jucato> no. sun-java6-plugin is the java plugin for Firefox. it still needs sun-java6-bin or -jre
[06:47] <KevinAlaska> good night Zee
[06:47] <boyke> i play sauerbraten and my kubuntu is unexpectedly hang
[06:47] <boyke> i reset my computer
[06:47] <klobster_> anyone know how to change my nicks passowrd (w/ nickserv)?
[06:47] <boyke> and my mbr is error 15
[06:47] <boyke> can anyone guide me
[06:48] <RadiantFire> boyke: try running grub-install again
[06:48] <boyke> how?
[06:48] <boyke> i cannot even logg on to my grub
[06:49] <boyke> i try using help on web for mbr it won't help
[06:49] <raylu> KevinAlaska, i _think_ you can use dpkg to uninstall it
[06:49] <Jucato> klobster_: /nickserv set password <newpassword>  I think
[06:49] <boyke> it said my ext3 group is corrupted
[06:49] <KevinAlaska> Raylu, I have two greyed out things listed in my "Adept Installer" 1) Sun Java 6 Runtime (32bit) under 'other' and 2) Sun Java 6 Web Start (32bit) under 'Internet'.
[06:50] <KevinAlaska> oh.. never used that.  I will read up on how to do that. :)
[06:51] <boyke> must i reinstall the kubuntu package if yes OMG i have download alot of things
[06:52] <Tired_> Hi.  Having trouble with Konqueror...how can I make it default to Info List view, and how can I make it load PDFs in an external viewer, rather than in the file manager window?
[06:52] <klobster> ty jucato.
[06:52] <KevinAlaska> heh.. boyke.. welcome to my world of newbie living! :)
[06:52] <boyke> hehehehe
[06:52] <boyke> yea
[06:53] <raylu> Tired_, just like windows: open with .
[06:53] <raylu> Tired_, (choose other and tell it to remember)
[06:53] <Tired_> Ah.
[06:53] <Tired_> What about the Info List part?
[06:53] <raylu> klobster, i see you decided on a name :P
[06:53] <jrattner> How can i reset the password for KDE Wallet?
[06:53] <jrattner> is it possible
[06:53] <raylu> Tired_, no idea. let me see
[06:53] <Tired_> :)  Thanks.
[06:54] <Jucato> jrattner: click on the wallet icon in the system tray
[06:54] <jrattner> Jucato, then?
[06:54] <Jucato> right-click on the wallet in the window that comes up
[06:55] <Jucato> change password
[06:55] <arun> Tired_: got it
[06:55] <raylu> Tired_, settings > configure view profiles
[06:55] <arun> yeah
[06:55] <raylu> lol
[06:55] <arun> save your profile as 'file management'
[06:55] <jrattner> Jucato, how do i start kde wallet from the command line
[06:55] <Jucato> jrattner: kwalletmanager
[06:55] <raylu> jrattner, tab-tab is your friend
[06:56] <Tired_> YAY!
[06:56] <Tired_> Thanks!
[06:56] <arun> Tired_: welcs
[06:56] <jrattner> Jucato, can i change it if i cant remember it
[06:56] <Tired_> One more question...how does Kubuntu set up swap space during the default Feisty install?
[06:57] <Tired_> I don't seem to have any swap space, and I'm not sure why...
[06:57] <raylu> Tired_, no idea. I really really don't like the idea of not manually configuring my partitions.
[06:57] <Jucato> jrattner: hm... let me check
[06:57] <linuxbomb> arun: welcs? thats sweat
[06:57] <jake_> help guys, my adept crashes
[06:57] <Tired_> I'm wishing I had done that, now.
[06:57] <KevinAlaska> you can manually configure them
[06:57] <raylu> one sec, Tired_
[06:57] <KevinAlaska> I have
[06:57] <raylu> KevinAlaska, i know. Tired_ didn't
[06:57] <Tired_> Kevin -> post-install?
[06:57] <arun> hahaha
[06:58] <arun> sweat? how
[06:58] <KevinAlaska> pre.. =/
[06:58] <klobster> raylu well I figure I will never get lobster, and since I lurk most of the Kde channels anyway...
[06:58] <Jucato> jrattner: I don't think so, at least not without deleting the contents of the wallet. but I'm not sure
[06:58] <linuxbomb> that was sarcasm its hard to do over irc
[06:58] <KevinAlaska> I was given this command to fix crashes ---> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:58] <jrattner> Jucato, alright thanks
[06:58] <Tired_> I was too stupid when I was installing.   Klobster?  what is "Fusuer"?
[07:00] <Tired_> What you say to SCO?  ;P
[07:00] <klobster> KevinAlaska: I meant fuser, but I man'ed it...
[07:00] <arun> can any one recommend any good php/mysql book
[07:00] <KevinAlaska> I almost posted help on how to just scratch myself. =/
[07:00] <jake_> guys plaease help anybody knws a command to fix my adept? thanks
[07:00] <KevinAlaska> klobster.. no idea. =/
[07:00] <Tired_> !adeptfix
[07:00] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:01] <arun> jake_: whats wrong with it
[07:01] <KevinAlaska> it was just the texted I coped and pasted into a file to read and research later
 it say bash not found
[07:02] <KevinAlaska> yeah.. that ubo tu guy gave it earlier. :)
[07:02] <Tired_> Oh.  That doesn't sound good.
[07:02] <klobster> KevinAlaska: # man fuser: fuser - identify processes using files or sockets
[07:02] <raylu> Tired_, sudo sfdisk -l
[07:02] <KevinAlaska> klobster: ahhh.. thanks. :)
[07:02] <boyke> can anyone guide me how to restore my grub?
[07:02] <raylu> arun, php.net :D
[07:03] <raylu> !grub
[07:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:03] <KevinAlaska> my newbie method is reinstall.. heh.. otherwise I can't help you. :/
[07:03] <arun> raylu: that doesn't have any detailed tutorials
[07:03] <Tired_> raylu -> any idea why it might have decided not to give me any swap partition during install?
[07:03] <arun> and there's too much stuff there
[07:03] <raylu> arun, you don't need tutorials. once you learn the syntax, it's just a crapload of functions
[07:03] <raylu> Tired_, you really don't have a swap at all?
[07:04] <Tired_> I don't think so.
[07:04] <raylu> Tired_, /dev/sda3       7118    7150      33     265072+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[07:04] <KevinAlaska> you can redo it and manually set it up.  Mine by default gave 3100 killobytes
[07:04] <raylu> nothing like that for you in sudo sfdisk -l?
[07:04] <Tired_> hang on, I'll pastebinmy 'df'
[07:04] <KevinAlaska> err..
[07:04] <arun> raylu: but which functions do i need to know in what order, and how do i create database driven apps with php/mysql from scratch
 it says "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem. "
[07:04] <raylu> arun, mysql_connect. search for that, and look on the left
[07:05] <raylu> jake_, sounds like something still has a lock on the database. close aptitude/apt-get/adept_manager
[07:05] <Tired_> !paste
[07:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:05] <raylu> Tired_, wait