[08:28] <kaffeend> sethk dunno what I'm lookin for here
[08:28] <sethk> kaffeend, something like "multimedia controller"
[08:29] <kaffeend> can't see it
[08:29] <jenda> sethk: Yes I know. Thanks anyway. Hmm... what I need is communication with the printer. I will first ask what format they support.
[08:29] <kaffeend> sethk maybe it's not seated correctly
[08:30] <Chrisu> liable, I've mounted the device...
[08:30] <liable> Chrisu: gimme the paste
[08:30] <Chrisu> and I, ... again.. forgot how to get the menu.lst
[08:30] <sethk> jenda, cups converts everything to postscript, so if you are using CUPS ...
[08:30] <kaffeend> lol - Determinist has quit
[08:31] <sethk> Chrisu, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:31] <sethk> Chrisu, something like:   sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:31] <Chrisu> wow!
[08:32] <Chrisu> now I got an error that I've never seen :P
[08:32] <jenda> Isn't CUPS for printing... I'm a little lost now.
[08:32] <liable> yes it is..
[08:32] <Chrisu> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/boot/grub/menu.lst" -- using "application/*"
[08:32] <Chrisu> Error: no write permission for file "/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[08:32] <sethk> Chrisu, you didn't use sudo
[08:32] <liable> Chrisu: thats not the one you want....
[08:32] <sethk> Chrisu, gedit is only one available editor
[08:32] <liable> sethk: this is from a knoppix disk..
[08:32] <Chrisu> !! haha...
[08:32] <sethk> Chrisu, although the mime-type thing should be harmless
[08:32] <ubotu> Chrisu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:33] <sethk> liable, he didn't chroot?
[08:33] <liable> Chrisu: vim /rescue/boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:33] <jenda> sethk: what about EPS format? I know they support that. Is it an open format, or is it at least supported by a FOSS program?
[08:33] <sethk> jenda, EPS is just a postscript extension
[08:33] <Chrisu> Swap file "/rescue/boot/grub/.menu.lst.swp" already exists!
[08:33] <jenda> sethk: OK, and that means I can use that?
[08:33] <sethk> jenda, just about everything you would use supports EPS
[08:34] <Chrisu> . am.
[08:34] <sethk> jenda, yes, you can use it.
[08:34] <jenda> OK thanks :)
[08:34] <jenda> And have you ever heard of Callisto?
[08:34] <sethk> Chrisu, that is probably from running vi on it, and not stopping vi properly
[08:34] <Chrisu> umm
[08:34] <sethk> Chrisu, as long as you are sure you don't have a vi session floating around, you can delete the swp file
[08:34] <liable> Chrisu: hrm you have a half edited file funky thing going on here..
[08:34] <jenda> One of the projects was handed in in Callisto, and I have no clue about that either, sethk
[08:35] <sethk> jenda, I don't really know anything about callisto, sorry
[08:35] <kaffeend> !pastebin
[08:35] <jenda> OK, neither does wikipedia :)
[08:35] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:35] <liable> Chrisu: do as sethk says and delete it and try again..
[08:35] <Chrisu> ha ha ha.... well, I a havin fun tryng to fix this
[08:35] <sethk> Chrisu, if you are using vim, you can just say "edit anyway" to the message about the swp file
[08:36] <Chrisu> swapoff ?
[08:37] <RON2255> guys I am trouble with Samsung SCx 4216F How do i install this printer
[08:37] <kaffeend> sethk: result of lspci - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6191
[08:37] <sethk> Chrisu, has nothing to do with swapoff
[08:37] <Chrisu> here I go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6192
[08:37] <sethk> Chrisu, swapoff is for swap partitions on the disk.  This is just a file used by the editor to do auto-save
[08:37] <kaffeend> beat you, Chrisu
[08:37] <kaffeend> :P
[08:37] <Chrisu> ok.
[08:37] <Chrisu> ha ha ha :D
[08:38] <Chrisu> :)
[08:38] <kaffeend> ;)
[08:38] <liable> Chrisu: ok, you need to edit that line again..
[08:38] <drcode> any one know if x11vnc can load at bot time?
[08:38] <drcode> boot
[08:38] <Chrisu> ok
[08:38] <jenda> OK, thanks guys
[08:38] <RON2255> Pls Pls Help me to install samsung scx 4216f printer
[08:39] <kaffeend> jenda: anytime ;)
[08:39] <sethk> drcode, sure, anything can load at boot time
[08:39] <Chrisu> ammm... I opened menu.lst using konqueror ><
[08:39] <drcode> I open file in /etc/inid.d
[08:39] <drcode> and it didnt worked
[08:40] <drcode> btw: xms all
[08:40] <Chrisu> yey!   My monitor will do 1280x1024 @ 75hz gladly, but i am only allowed to select up to 1024x768 @ 60
[08:43] <lws> How can I get this other mode?
[08:43] <Chrisu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6193
[08:43] <Chrisu> I'm using root.
[08:44] <Chrisu> I did  "su"
[08:44] <Chrisu> or should I say superuser :)
[08:44] <liable> Chrisu: so delete the file
[08:44] <kaffeend> lws just use system preferences, sceen resolution in Gnome
[08:45] <Chrisu> amm, what's the command for it ?
[08:45] <owner989> merry xmas
[08:45] <liable> Chrisu: rm /rescue/boot/grub/menu.lst.swp
[08:45] <kaffeend> Christmas is sooo yesterday :D
[08:45] <Chrisu> ok
[08:45] <owner989> lol
[08:46] <intelikey> lws sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[08:47] <Chrisu> rm /rescue/boot/grub/menu.lst.swp
[08:47] <Chrisu> rm: cannot lstat `/rescue/boot/grub/menu.lst.swp': No such file or directory
[08:47] <intelikey> lws that will let you redo your xorg.conf with the option to enable higher rez
[08:47] <kaffeend> sethk are you still around?
[08:47] <eric_> does open office have a program similar to ms publisher
[08:48] <Madpilot> eric_: for desktop publishing? Try Scribus
[08:48] <slide> ok ffs wtf my comp is f*cking up
[08:48] <liable> Chrisu: ls /rescue/boot/grub
[08:48] <lws> kaffeend: that's the problem
[08:48] <sethk> kaffeend, coming and going, why?
[08:48] <lws> intellkey:oh
[08:49] <eric_> I've heard of that, is that what I could use to create a flyer or signs, greeting cards
[08:49] <kaffeend> sethk just wondering if you knew why I don't get sound in games?
[08:49] <Chrisu> ah!
[08:49] <monthos> disconnect
[08:49] <Chrisu> I wans't using su
[08:49] <slide> Im typing 'sudo ls' and i get back 'sudo: Can't open /var/run/sudo/brandon/0: Read-only file system'
[08:49] <Madpilot> eric_: yes, it's a full-blown DTP program
[08:49] <kaffeend> lws: do what MadPilot said ;)
[08:49] <sethk> kaffeend, I'm not really a games expert.  I'd check that the levels are up (master and pcm), and that the sound server is running
[08:49] <Chrisu> here:
[08:49] <Chrisu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6194
[08:49] <Madpilot> kaffeend: huh?
[08:50] <Sneaky_Bastard> DTP = Dual Tongue Penetration ?
[08:50] <sethk> slide, that message might be misleading.  Are you sure that user brandon is configured for sudo ?
[08:50] <Sneaky_Bastard> :p
[08:50] <Sneaky_Bastard> sorry
[08:50] <eric_> thnx, I'm going to install it.  I'm glad this forum is here,
[08:50] <slide> sethk, yes, ive been using sudo since i first installed this system (and like 2 seconds ago too)
[08:50] <liable> Chrisu: um, are you using knoppix root term?
[08:50] <Madpilot> Sneaky_Bastard: um, no. Desktop Publishing - much less interesting :P
[08:51] <kaffeend> Madpilot - sorry I mistook you for someone else
[08:51] <kaffeend> :)
[08:51] <intelikey> too many egg nobs on his stick broom the problem is maybe Madpilot
[08:51] <Chrisu> meaning? no, my fault. when I'd open menu.lst I wans't using sudo nor su
[08:51] <Chrisu> I though I did
[08:51] <liable> Chrisu: so its done now?
[08:52] <kaffeend> lws: I meant do what intelikey said ;)
[08:52] <Chrisu> let me try editing the menu again
[08:52] <intelikey> thought i that
[08:52] <sethk> slide, do mount, and make sure nothing is mounted read only
[08:52] <newbiextrem> Is someone there having problem to access www.google.com ? ... It didn't work the last 2 days ... A confirmation would be really appreciated :D
[08:53] <sethk> slide, mount with no arguments
[08:53] <sethk> newbiextrem, works fine for me
[08:53] <slide> sethk, hrm, /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:53] <newbiextrem> oh, thanks sethk
[08:53] <Chrisu> ahhh
[08:53] <Chrisu> again...
[08:53] <sethk> slide, the message has to be misleading, but I don't know what is really happening.
[08:53] <lws> intelikey: It still didn't allow me to fix my refresh rate
[08:53] <sethk> slide, try doing su, and editing as root
[08:54] <slide> sethk, you see in what i just typed it says "errors=remount-ro" ?
[08:54] <liable> Chrisu: theres a root terminal in the knoppix menu, use that..
[08:54] <Chrisu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6195
[08:54] <sethk> slide, yes, that's typical.
[08:54] <liable> Chrisu: or there used to be, havent used it for a while..
[08:54] <kaffeend> sethk: result of lspci - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6191 if you wouldn't mind having a look? :)
[08:54] <intelikey> it does if you select the correct options durring the config.   you have to read the thing not just hit enter repetedly lws
[08:54] <sethk> slide, usually that only applies during boot
[08:54] <newbiextrem> "ping www.google.com
[08:54] <newbiextrem> " doesn't seem to work for me :-s...
[08:54] <newbiextrem> PING www.l.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:54] <newbiextrem> thanks anyway :D
[08:55] <Chrisu> ok, found Terminal SuserUser mode
[08:55] <owner989> newbie you have no internet?
[08:55] <liable> Chrisu: copy and paste    rm /rescue/boot/grub/.menu.lst.swp
[08:55] <owner989> if you have dsl you may need to enable dhcp
[08:55] <sethk> kaffeend, no audio
[08:55] <Determinist> any idea how i could set up my side mouse buttons? i've already set Zaxismapping to 4 5 and set it to 5 buttons, any idea why it's still not working?
[08:55] <slide> sethk, well, i cant do su b/c root has no password. and anything i run with sudo gives me that read only message
[08:55] <newbiextrem> owner989 : I wonder how I could be there if not :)
[08:55] <kaffeend> sethk ok thanks - maybe I'll try another slot
[08:55] <sethk> slide, even sudo passwd   ?
[08:56] <slide> sethk, yup
[08:56] <sethk> slide, rescue disk time
[08:56] <newbiextrem> (and please consider that i'm bad in english... I guess you've already seen it)
[08:56] <slide> 'rescue disk', that the livecd? heh
[08:56] <intelikey> for the refresh rate section lws it first asks if you want  simple normal or expert mode use something besides simple and you get to set the refresh not just the size in inches of your monitor.
[08:56] <kaffeend> newbiextrem: not at all :D
[08:56] <sethk> slide, either the live cd, or the install cd booted in rescue mode
[08:56] <slide> sethk, what does 'rescue mode' do?
[08:56] <linux_galore> is nov 18 the newest version of dapper drake ?
[08:57] <Sneaky_Bastard> summons a hot life guard from Bay Watch
[08:57] <slide> sethk, i mean i can boot up into the system and it works for a little bit
[08:57] <Chrisu> rm: remove regular file `/rescue/boot/grub/.menu.lst.swp'?
[08:57] <Sneaky_Bastard> ;-)
[08:57] <liable> Chrisu: yes
[08:57] <Chrisu> ok
[08:57] <sethk> slide, if it really is remounting in read only mode, you would see a message about the remount in /var/log/messages
[08:57] <sethk> slide, but you would also see ro as the current state in the mount output
[08:58] <Sneaky_Bastard> Merry Christmas!!
[08:58] <newbiextrem> well... that's frustating (normally I would search on Google but ... lol)
[08:58] <kaffeend> Bah Humbug!
[08:58] <Sneaky_Bastard> BTW, I saw Santa Claus tonight in The Chronicles of Narnia :o
[08:58] <Sneaky_Bastard> o_O
[08:58] <Chrisu> ")
[08:58] <robitaille> linux_galore,  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-2/ is the latest actual release
[08:58] <linux_galore> I can see two CD's Flight-1 and Flight-2, is 2 the new version or just a second cd
[08:59] <jcaine> hey all - I'm having problems with my dvd drives on ubuntu. Never had a problem but now, for some reason, nautilus shows my drives as "CD-ROM 1" and won't load any CDs - HELP!
[08:59] <Chrisu> What do I do now, liable ?
[08:59] <robitaille> linux_galore,  Flight-2 is the 2nd release of the test version of Dapper, released in mid-December
[08:59] <liable> Chrisu: now edit it with vim..
[08:59] <slide> sethk, lemmy try to reboot
[09:00] <Chrisu> ok
[09:00] <linux_galore> robitaille: thanks, bit confusing calling it CD ,makes me wonder if its a two cd distro
[09:00] <Mabus06> how do you use a program installed using wine?
[09:00] <linux_galore> CD2*
[09:00] <intelikey> wine /path/file.exe
[09:00] <jcaine> anyone?
[09:01] <Chrisu> (hd1,2)  to .... (hd what ?
[09:01] <Mabus06> intelikey, but it installed to C:/program files or whatever...
[09:01] <liable> (hd0,3).. the same as the others..
[09:01] <intelikey> so use find and enter the real path.
[09:01] <Chrisu> (hd0,3) ?
[09:01] <liable> yes
[09:02] <intelikey> Mabus06 find ./ -name <filename.exe>
[09:02] <newbiextrem> nothing in /etc/hosts ... if anyone has an idea or know where to search please let me know ... I'm dying :D
[09:02] <liable> Chrisu: esc; shift +zz
[09:02] <intelikey> slocate if you prefer
[09:02] <newbiextrem> (maybe because it's 3 a.m. here ... lol)
[09:03] <newbiextrem> sorry for disturbing you..
[09:03] <Chrisu> liable.  have to change (hd1,2)  to (hd0,3) right ?
[09:03] <linux_galore> ok downloading
[09:03] <Chrisu> or it was somethign else?
[09:03] <liable> Chrisu: thats correct
[09:04] <Chrisu> :) alright
[09:04] <linux_galore> gona boot mandriva of this machine starting to get bored with it
[09:04] <linux_galore> got gentoo rr4 on my laptop
[09:04] <Chrisu> alright!
[09:04] <Chrisu> done.
[09:04] <liable> Chrisu: now paste it again :)
[09:04] <Chrisu> hoho.
[09:05] <Chrisu> vim ?
[09:05] <liable> you can just use cat or
[09:05] <liable> cat /rescue/boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:05] <liable> Chrisu: just paste the relevent bit
[09:06] <intelikey> less /rescue/boot/grub/menu.lst    :)
[09:06] <liable> if knoppix has it :) or you can use the less more.. :P
[09:06] <Chrisu> ok
[09:06] <jcaine> hey all - I'm having problems with my dvd drives on ubuntu. Never had a problem but now, for some reason, nautilus shows my drives as "CD-ROM 1" and won't load any CDs - HELP!
[09:07] <CaptainMorgan> nautilus is pissing me off...
[09:07] <sethk> jcaine, other apps having problems with it?
[09:07] <jcaine> sethk- yeah, totem etc. won't read any media cds either.
[09:08] <sethk> jcaine, nothing changed?
[09:08] <jcaine> sethk- none whatsoever, unless using apt-get to install Anjuta counts :(
[09:08] <Chrisu> ok
[09:08] <Chrisu> Here I am
[09:08] <Chrisu> with the updates !! :P
[09:08] <Chrisu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6196
[09:09] <sethk> jcaine, shouldn't.  :)  although I suppose you never know.
[09:09] <newbiextrem> Is my website accessible ? http://welcometux.ath.cx:65500/  ... My connexion is normally OK (only Google isn't responding :(...)
[09:09] <newbiextrem> sorry guys :D
[09:09] <liable> Chrisu: well, one thing to do now :)
[09:09] <sethk> newbiextrem, the site looks fine
[09:09] <Chrisu> reboot ;)
[09:09] <jcaine> when I try to umount -a, and then mount -a, I get an error saying /dev and / is busy :(
[09:09] <newbiextrem> oh Note : the site is really bad :).... thanks sethk :)
[09:10] <newbiextrem> strange ...
[09:10] <sethk> newbiextrem, make sure you don't have iptables blocking stuff
[09:10] <newbiextrem> thanks it makes me feel better anyway...
[09:10] <Chrisu> ok
[09:10] <newbiextrem> yeah but now I didn't configure it
[09:10] <Chrisu> BRB, liable :
[09:11] <sethk> newbiextrem, just a thought.  it's one of the things that causes mysteries.  what happens if you do a traceroute for google.com?
[09:11] <sethk> newbiextrem, www.google.com, that is
[09:11] <newbiextrem> I'll use "Arno script" which is really good but actually the configuration is the same as default...
[09:11] <newbiextrem> I'll try it ... thanks a lot !
[09:12] <RON2255> Please I had tried to install samsung scx4216f but fail help me?
[09:12] <intelikey> oh i have no mouse connected..... been on this long and just notices....
[09:13] <RON2255> any one can help me becasue I am new to thos os
[09:13] <HeartBT> !azureus
[09:13] <ubotu> somebody said azureus was a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:13] <RON2255> :-(
[09:13] <HeartBT> ron wassup
[09:14] <HeartBT> RON2255, whatstheprob?
[09:14] <newbiextrem> sethk : the command is running but is a little bit slow... I'll make you a screenshot because you can access my *website* si it would be easy to follow...
[09:14] <newbiextrem> so *
[09:14] <RON2255> I cannot install samsung scx 4216f
[09:14] <sethk> newbiextrem, traceroue is slow you mean?
[09:15] <HeartBT> what is that?
[09:15] <RON2255> A printer
[09:15] <HeartBT> UGH.
[09:15] <RON2255> I am new to Ubuntu
[09:15] <RON2255> do not know anything only to install the os
[09:15] <newbiextrem> yeah the command "traceroute www.google.com" I mean, sorry
[09:15] <HeartBT> RON2255, new to linux as well.
[09:15] <sethk> RON2255, linuxprinting.org
[09:16] <Chrisu> I'm back !
[09:16] <HeartBT> yeah, that's what I was about to suggest
[09:16] <Chrisu> Now, everybody give me a warm welcome :)
[09:16] <newbiextrem> actually I get always the samething :: 1 * * *    2 * * * .... now it's at 15 :)
[09:16] <Madpilot> !printers
[09:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:16] <Chrisu> I feel like a dead meat now :D
[09:16] <RON2255> I am suck to the bottom and I searched there can you help me
[09:16] <newbiextrem> there is no error msgs, just an introduction : traceroute to www.l.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
[09:16] <HeartBT> here's a warm welcome to dead meat
[09:17] <Chrisu> I feel like crying .....
[09:17] <Chrisu> ><
[09:17] <HeartBT> RON2255, give me a moment.
[09:17] <sethk> newbiextrem, that's normal.
[09:17] <Chrisu> But, I must be brave !
[09:17] <RON2255> Thanks HB
[09:17] <sethk> newbiextrem, can you ping it (by ip, not by name)?
[09:17] <liable> Chrisu: ok, what happened this time?
[09:17] <Chrisu> Hey, liable :)
[09:17] <Chrisu> Chrisu here ;)
[09:18] <newbiextrem> by name it didn't work, I'll try right now with the IP ! :)
[09:18] <Chrisu> It still the same. It gave me Symbols.
[09:18] <Chrisu> haha.
[09:18] <HeartBT> RON2255, I don't even see that one listed!
[09:18] <Chrisu> I admire you liable. You aren't tired of me. I'm glad.  :)
[09:18] <liable> Chrisu: hrm, paste the file again..
[09:18] <RON2255> Then i am dead
[09:19] <Chrisu> yep
[09:19] <RON2255> is it?
[09:19] <HeartBT> RON2255, no, is that the full model number?
[09:19] <newbiextrem> sethk, same problem ... I did " ping <IP_ADDRESS> " and I got one line which stay at : PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[09:19] <RON2255> Yes
[09:19] <HeartBT> ugh
[09:19] <newbiextrem> if I try with my website for example it is extremely quick and I got multiple lines...
[09:19] <timfrost> newbiextrem,newbiextrem
[09:20] <sethk> newbiextrem, ok, you have a hard problem
[09:20] <sethk> newbiextrem, hard meaning there all the time, not difficult
[09:20] <RON2255> Yes it is Samsung SCX-4216F may be 4Z16F???:)
[09:20] <liable> !customer
[09:20] <ubotu> liable: Wish i knew
[09:20] <newbiextrem> I got it only with Google so I wonder what I could have done ?? ...
[09:20] <intelikey> Chrisu and liable catch me up right quick on the error and the attempts to resolve and let me see if i can add a thought.
[09:20] <timfrost> nwbiextrem, can you give us output from "netstat -nr"?
[09:21] <HeartBT> RON2255, I don't even see it on their website.
[09:21] <newbiextrem> ok, I'm going to do it ... just a moment :)
[09:21] <sethk> newbiextrem, might not be you, might be your ISP has a caching server problem
[09:21] <RON2255> So do I need to change the OS to damn XP
[09:21] <HeartBT> RON2255, no, don't say that, you've come so far :)
[09:22] <faisal_d> hey guys... i have OOo 1.9 installed, and need to do a network install of OOo... any ideas of how about to do it??
[09:22] <Chrisu> ok, intelikey. thank you :)
[09:22] <newbiextrem> timfrost, I have this with the netstat command : http://welcometux.ath.cx:65500/netstat.png
[09:22] <RON2255> I know I am fed up and must learn how to operate this os bit difficult to me
[09:22] <Chrisu> hold on guys..
[09:22] <sethk> RON2255, follow the instructions at the web site I gave you
[09:22] <PoW> How do I get the little recycle bin icon back on my bottom menu?
[09:23] <RON2255> thanks sethk pls
[09:23] <HeartBT> RON2255, found it.
[09:23] <newbiextrem> sethk, I hope that it is my ISP, but how could I know ? oh...
[09:23] <RON2255> Oh please!!!
[09:23] <lws> inte: i did that it it didn't work 60hz is the max it'll give me
[09:23] <sethk> RON2255, I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you are asking
[09:23] <Mikelin> same here
[09:23] <slide> sethk, ok, so i booted up the livecd, where is the rescue part? heh
[09:24] <RON2255> My goodness I am asking to install a printer name samsung scx4216f
[09:24] <sethk> slide, do a chroot and set the root password
[09:24] <HeartBT> RON2255, that printer is fully supported under linux, there is a linux driver on their website.
[09:24] <slide> sethk, ah hehe
[09:24] <Chrisu> sorry
[09:24] <Chrisu> I was late
[09:24] <Chrisu> here is the update:
[09:24] <liable> intelikey: quick run down, Chrisu played with gparted, system wont boot, we fixed fstab, then menu.lst now still playing with menu.lst
[09:24] <Chrisu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6197
[09:24] <RON2255> can you give me the url
[09:24] <HeartBT> RON2255, one moment
[09:25] <sethk> RON2255, it really isn't difficult.  You just need to follow the posted procedure at the site I gave you.  You can't expect anyone to type the whole thing in for you here
[09:25] <Chrisu> What liable said.
[09:25] <timfrost> newbiextrem, that looks OK (assuming that your router is at <IP_ADDRESS>)  I agree with sethk that your ISP has a problem.
[09:25] <RON2255> no cause I scerewed up everything again
[09:25] <intelikey> Chrisu describ the problem for me please.
[09:26] <Chrisu> ok
[09:26] <Chrisu> Let me tell you guys from the beguining.
[09:26] <newbiextrem> yeah my routeur is at <IP_ADDRESS> (if I enter this IP in Firefox, I can modify his configuration)... Thanks for your help ! :D
[09:26] <newbiextrem> router *
[09:26] <ispiked> Chrisu: does update-grub find your windows partitions and add them to menu.lst?
[09:26] <HeartBT> RON2255, http://www.samsung.com/support/productsupport/download/Model_Select2.aspx?type=Printer%20and%20Multifunction&subtype=Multifunction%20Products&model=SCX-4216F&fileType=DR&LSSI=/include/SSI/us_left/LMenu_PrinterandMultifunction_MultifunctionProducts.sec&RSSI=/include/SSI/us_right/RMenu_PrinterandMultifunction.sec
[09:26] <Chrisu> I wanted to give more space for my Ubuntu partition
[09:26] <HeartBT> OUCH!
[09:27] <ispiked> that's what I call tinyurl material.
[09:27] <Chrisu> mo. update-grub dosn't fint it.
[09:27] <HeartBT> looked small in the add bar.  wow.
[09:27] <RON2255> I am now trying HB thanks
[09:27] <liable> dont run update-grub as we havent fixed that part of menu.lst yet..
[09:27] <Chrisu> ok
[09:27] <Chrisu> guys, here is the story: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108037
[09:28] <HeartBT> RON2255, the ubuntu link you should really go over, at least to augment the ones in that file.
[09:28] <ispiked> liable: won't update-grub overwrite changes to menu.lst?
[09:28] <Chrisu> I am ubuntu27 in the forums.
[09:28] <Chrisu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108037
[09:28] <yikes> anyone use amarok script on gnome?
[09:28] <liable> ispiked: the groot and kopt values are wrong.
[09:28] <intelikey> Chrisu you are running these commands from knoppix  with or without  chroot  prepended ?
[09:28] <newbiextrem> Videotron is really bad as I can see... and they don't allow their users to create personal servers (I had to configure it on a different port...)
[09:29] <newbiextrem> stupid ISP... thanks to you :)
[09:29] <liable> intelikey: without a chroot
[09:29] <apricot> please, how to run terminal in current nautilus directory?
[09:29] <Chrisu> just after opening the terminal I put  "su"
[09:29] <timfrost> Chrisu, do you have a PartitionMagic CD?
[09:29] <owner989> just use gparted from the live cd
[09:29] <Chrisu> I have partition Magick in Windows, at least  the installer.
[09:30] <Chrisu> but, cannot boot Windows now ><
[09:30] <ispiked> apricot: `apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal'.
[09:31] <apricot> thank you
[09:31] <faisal_d> guys, i'm running hoary and the other day i tried to do an upgrade to breezy like the forums say, and it broke my machine!!!
[09:31] <faisal_d> how do i upgrade to breezy?
[09:31] <RON2255> Thank you very much HB I am downloading the driver now
[09:31] <Madpilot> faisal_d: did you follow the wiki's upgrade page?
[09:31] <intelikey> liable try cd'ing to the ubuntu root and running  chroot . grub-update
[09:32] <newbiextrem> Well... I feel a little bit sleepy... thanks again for you help and have a nice day !
[09:32] <faisal_d> Madpilot.... yeah... it said change every occurence of hoary to breezy in the sources file... then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:32] <Mabus06> how come when I try to install radiant, it gives me errors regarding 'pango', yet all the pango related packages I find in synaptic are installed
[09:32] <Chrisu> and well, as you can see, I messed with /etc/fstab and menu.lst
[09:32] <anir> hello
[09:32] <HeartBT> RON2255, no prob.  while it's dl'ing, check out that site that was sent by whatshisnameagain
[09:32] <anir> what is the command to remove application..??
[09:33] <Chrisu> Sorry for the trouble guys/girls...
[09:33] <Madpilot> faisal_d: there's a standard Breezy sources.list available - have you checked your working copy against that one?
[09:33] <Chrisu> I guess it's too late over there....
[09:34] <RON2255> Will come later for asking help thank you very much
[09:34] <faisal_d> Madpilot: ah, no
[09:34] <faisal_d> where can i get it from?
[09:34] <liable> intelikey: grub seems installed fine, we ran just 'grub' and he has the grub screen just getting weird 'symbols'? at boot now..
[09:34] <Madpilot> !sources
[09:34] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:34] <Madpilot> faisal_d: see ubotu above ^^^
[09:35] <sethk> liable, then grub didn't run fine, although it appeared to
[09:35] <anir> can anyon ehelp me
[09:35] <anir> hey sethk
[09:35] <Chrisu> Have you ever had a virus in WIndows 98 that prevent you from booting? and it shows some symbols like faces and cards....
[09:35] <faisal_d> Madpilot: great, thanx a lot :)
[09:35] <liable> sethk: paste 6185
[09:35] <Chrisu> that's what I see now. Only that there are few symbols
[09:35] <intelikey> liable yeah that was for Chrisu.  but i still sujest doing that because he installed the grub code from the knoppix cd   and it may cause an error.
[09:36] <anir> ooh.. my firefox is not running.. i cant access home folder.. whats happening..lol
[09:36] <liable> intelikey: sure cant hurt to try although i have done it a couple of times from a knoppix cd without a chroot.
[09:36] <Chrisu> ah.. pardon me
[09:36] <intelikey> chrisu try cd'ing to the ubuntu root and running  chroot . grub-update
[09:36] <sethk> liable, paste 6185?
[09:37] <Chrisu> cd'ing ?
[09:37] <liable> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6185
[09:37] <intelikey> or even  chroot . grub-install /dev/hda
[09:37] <sethk> liable, ok.  as I said, it appeared to run correctly
[09:37] <intelikey> yes cd /<mountpoint>
[09:37] <Chrisu> intelikey. I don't understand. Should I boot/run Ubuntu Live CD?
[09:38] <intelikey> yes
[09:38] <intelikey> Chrisu you are on what os now ?
[09:38] <ccfiel> #xuhs
[09:39] <Chrisu> Hey guys. It's 1:40 Am here. And I'm disturbing a "comrade" here who want to sleep...
[09:39] <Chrisu> I am running Knoppix Live CD 4.0
[09:39] <Chrisu> Well, guys. I will be here tomorrow.
[09:39] <Chrisu> Hope to find you guys.
[09:39] <liable> Chrisu: just try from the ubuntu cd, wont take long..
[09:39] <intelikey> yeah you are cross installing with that use the ub live Chrisu ....  and good luck
[09:40] <QMario> How do I do a nickname completion in gaim?
[09:40] <intelikey> tab doesn't work ?
[09:41] <QMario> Okay, it does.
[09:41] <QMario> Thank you intelikey and Merry Christmas!!! :)
[09:41] <one> any reason why i heard the default tinklebell on the login screen but it seems my sound doesn't work in X.. but i heard the little sound on the login manager (default login)
[09:41] <Chrisu> Are you guys staying ?
[09:41] <intelikey> np
[09:41] <Chrisu> What time is it there ?
[09:42] <intelikey> gmt-6
[09:42] <liable> +10
[09:42] <Chrisu> amm
[09:42] <liable> or in human terms 1842 :)
[09:42] <sethk> @localtime chrisu
[09:43] <intelikey> you on the main land or island liable ?
[09:43] <liable> nw qld
[09:43] <Chrisu> ok.
[09:43] <intelikey> ah
[09:43] <Chrisu> ok
[09:43] <Chrisu> I will boot Ubuntu Live CD
[09:43] <Chrisu> BRB guys
[09:44] <Chrisu> I will staying overnight if it necesary !
[09:44] <Chrisu> ;)
[09:44] <Toma-> how do you downgrade a package via apt? eg. libstdc++6?
[09:45] <intelikey> apt don't have a reverse in it i don't think
[09:45] <liable> use dpkg..
[09:45] <Toma-> ok.
[09:45] <liable> and good luck with dpendancies :P
[09:46] <Toma-> yeh ns :D
[09:46] <liable> much like using redhat i spose :)
[09:46] <MadDingo73> why not suse
[09:46] <MadDingo73> ?
[09:47] <liable> whatever..
[09:47] <MadDingo73> hehe
[09:47] <faisal_d> guys... does anybody know where does apt store packages when it downloads them?
[09:47] <liable> any of them i guess..
[09:47] <one> what makes ubuntu more bloated than centos?
[09:47] <liable> /var/cache/apt/..
[09:47] <intelikey> i never had any dep problems with `orange cap'
[09:48] <MadDingo73> anyone know just how many flavors there are, currently?
[09:48] <one> it's a conspiracy, my computer vender doesn't want me using ubuntu!!!
[09:48] <liable> distrowatch..
[09:48] <intelikey> faisal_d /var/cache/apt/...
[09:48] <MadDingo73> good. thanks
[09:48] <faisal_d> thanx intelikey, liable :)
[09:48] <intelikey> lol liable you didn't remember the last dir eithere...
[09:48] <sethk> MadDingo73, I've seen serious problems with suse
[09:48] <liable> haha
[09:49] <intelikey> it's not partials    what is it.... if i had ubuntu i'd look and see.
[09:50] <liable> archives
[09:50] <intelikey> that's it.
[09:50] <yikes> i was wondering if i can use user_xattr in my fstab for beagle, my filesystem is reiserfs
[09:51] <Chrisu> Well, I'm back
[09:51] <Chrisu> with ubuntu Live CD
[09:52] <liable> ok, what does the live cd mount /hda on?
[09:52] <intelikey> ok make sure the ubuntu root is mounted in /mnt or some place.  i haven't actually plaied with the live much either.
[09:52] <Chrisu> ehh?
[09:52] <intelikey>  /mnt/ i think
[09:52] <Chrisu> Ubuntu Live CD dosn't mount any devices unless it's told by the user
[09:53] <Chrisu> ammm
[09:53] <liable> Chrisu: ok, we'll do it much the same as before. mkdir /rescue && mount /dev/hda4 /rescue && chroot rescue
[09:53] <Chrisu> sd
[09:53] <Chrisu> ??
[09:53] <Chrisu> weird
[09:53] <liable> Chrisu: i spose you need to umount /dev/hda4 first..
[09:53] <Chrisu> \
[09:54] <Chrisu> I cann't put back \
[09:54] <Chrisu> \media
[09:54] <liable> eh?
[09:54] <Chrisu> that's where Ubuntu usually mount, if I remember correctly...
[09:54] <intelikey> Chrisu no it is /
[09:54] <puff> What do people recommend for writing a CD?
[09:54] <Chrisu> yep
[09:54] <Chrisu> I cannot put that
[09:54] <intelikey> you are not in windows any more toto
[09:55] <Chrisu> For some weird reason Ubuntu dosn't allow me to put the other \
[09:55] <liable> puff: xcdroast, k3b, cdrecord..
[09:55] <owner989> k3b is the best
[09:55] <owner989> but no cover editor
[09:55] <Chrisu> ><
[09:55] <intelikey> !start an editor war
[09:55] <liable> all front ends for cdrecord/growisofs.
[09:55] <ubotu> intelikey: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:56] <intelikey> !start a editor war
[09:56] <ubotu> intelikey: Are you on ritalin?
[09:56] <intelikey> ubotu you dope.
[09:56] <ubotu> intelikey: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:56] <Madpilot> puff: what're you burning? if it's data or an ISO, use the file manager's built-in burner
[09:56] <liable> intelikey: ubotu isnt as smart as dpkg :P
[09:56] <Chrisu> ahh. ok, I'm read to do anything now : D
[09:57] <liable> Chrisu: umount /dev/hda4
[09:57] <Chrisu> ok
[09:57] <liable> Chrisu: mkdir /rescue && mount /dev/hda4 /rescue && chroot rescue
[09:57] <puff> Madpilot: ISO.
[09:57] <Chrisu> umount: /dev/hda4 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[09:57] <intelikey> liable that last will fail
[09:57] <liable> Chrisu: grub-install /dev/hda
[09:57] <liable> intelikey: it will?
[09:57] <puff> Madpilot: Where would I find this built-in burner?
[09:57] <intelikey> liable slow down cowboy
[09:57] <Chrisu> ubotu, what language do you speak ?
[09:57] <ubotu> Chrisu: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:58] <intelikey> yes it will
[09:58] <Madpilot> puff: in Ubuntu's file manager, right-click on your ISO file, select the "Burn To Disc" option - done!
[09:58] <liable> intelikey: all he's gotta do is copy and paste..
[09:58] <Chrisu> Never mind ubotu.
[09:58] <intelikey> liable chroot without a command or dir will fail.
[09:59] <intelikey> that's not the way chroot works
[09:59] <liable> err, correct chroot /rescue..
[09:59] <liable> no need for /bin/bash though..
[09:59] <Madpilot> Chrisu: you do know that ubotu is a bot, I hope? :)
[09:59] <intelikey> chroot /rescue grub-install
[09:59] <intelikey> chroot /rescue grub-install /dev/hda
[09:59] <Chrisu> man
[09:59] <Chrisu> so it is a bot...
[09:59] <Chrisu> haha
[09:59] <puff> No "burn to disc" but there is a "Write to disc"
[10:00] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[10:00] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:00] <intelikey> Chrisu if you have your ubuntu partition mounted on /rescue to that last line i posted ^
[10:00] <liable> intelikey: dont want to get into it, but i have chrooted many times without a command suffix.
[10:00] <puff> Madpilot: Thanks!
[10:00] <Chrisu> guys
[10:01] <Chrisu> I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6199
[10:01] <liable> intelikey: not with the ubuntu disk my you though.
[10:01] <intelikey> yes it will run a shell if you only supply a dir liable
[10:01] <st3f> hi all
[10:01] <st3f> merry christmas
[10:01] <liable> mind*
[10:01] <intelikey> but with no arg it will fail.
[10:01] <intelikey> that is what i was saying ^ up there
[10:02] <Madpilot> puff: more info here, if you need it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:02] <liable> hrm, i have chrooted without an arg, but anyway.. back to the problem :)
[10:03] <intelikey> tty5 [greg$~]  chroot
[10:03] <intelikey> chroot: too few arguments
[10:03] <liable> no, chroot foo
[10:03] <liable> err /foo
[10:03] <Chrisu> here
[10:03] <intelikey> that is not without an arg
[10:03] <Chrisu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6200
[10:03] <lws> argh
[10:04] <faisal_d> guys.. where does OO gets installed in hoary? /usr/share/openoffice contains only one file!!
[10:04] <liable> intelikey: ah, ok i understand now :) but if you look at the first command there was rescue, but not /rescue..
[10:04] <factotum> Alright, I got a Mac G4 a few months back, but for some reason I'm still liking linux more, am I crazy?
[10:04] <factotum> This isn't even a server or anything, just a regular home system
[10:05] <heth> hey:) Merry Christmas :)
[10:05] <liable> Chrisu: ls /     does rescue exist?
[10:05] <Chrisu> let me see
[10:05] <youngcoder> factotum, ur not crazy u just got sucked in by linux
[10:05] <factotum> merry xmas, but i think its boxing day now
[10:05] <michael_> im usin kde
[10:05] <michael_> how do i play cds
[10:05] <heth> can somebody tell me how much space I need in my hdd for Full CD Instalation?
[10:05] <intelikey> Chrisu sudo chroot /rescue grub-install /dev/hd  <--- bad address  it's  /dev/hda
[10:05] <michael_> i was able to do it in gnome
[10:05] <factotum> youngcoder: I guess so, I even threw slackware on my old system, just because
[10:05] <Wilf> factotum, swap you the G4 for my Athlon? ;)
[10:06] <youngcoder> factotum, ive never used slackware
[10:06] <Chrisu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6201
[10:06] <factotum> Wilf hah!
[10:06] <liable> can you not be root on the live disk?
[10:06] <michael_> is ubuntu debian based?
[10:06] <Chrisu> liable: yeah, rescue is in /
[10:06] <eric_> I was just curious will I have to worry about things like disk scan and defrag like in windows?
[10:06] <faisal_d> michael_ yes
[10:06] <Wilf> factotum, was worth a try...
[10:06] <michael_> ok, anyone here usin kde and wine
[10:07] <Chrisu> ubuntu@66-190-246-254:~$ sudo chroot /rescue grub-install /dev/hda
[10:07] <Chrisu> chroot: cannot run command `grub-install': No such file or directory
[10:07] <Chousuke> eric_: no.
[10:07] <Chousuke> eric_: At least I never do.
[10:07] <youngcoder> heth, it depends on what you plan on doing with your computer
[10:07] <liable> Chrisu: chroot /rescue
[10:07] <faisal_d> eric_ linux automatically does defrag... no need to worry about that :)
[10:07] <Chrisu> ..
[10:07] <Chrisu> chroot: cannot change root directory to /rescu: No such file or directory
[10:07] <liable> Chrisu: or sudo chroot /rescue..
[10:07] <factotum> well I might turn the other slackware system into a local web server to play around with. I've been playing around with xhtml,css and php more an photoshop and illustrator less... never thought I would go that way, its fun though
[10:07] <Jared> ..where can i find instructions about libcssdvd package?
[10:07] <liable> Chrisu: typo!
[10:08] <eric_> that's good, I just remember having to do that with windows, or registry problems
[10:08] <Chrisu> ubuntu@66-190-246-254:~$ sudo chroot /rescue
[10:08] <Chrisu> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[10:08] <lws> goddamn Xorg
[10:08] <lws> why won't it accept my modeline?!!
[10:08] <lws> where are these default 1280x1024 modes coming from?!
[10:08] <faisal_d> eric_ ... there is no registry either :-D
[10:08] <Jared> liable do you know where i can get the encoder libcssdvd?
[10:08] <michael_> anyone here usin wine?
[10:09] <intelikey> Chrisu is there files in /rescue ?
[10:09] <factotum> oh well, 4 years of college for graphic design and ad media..got me into creating web pages...odd
[10:09] <eric_> thanks for the info, Linux is just a load off my mind.
[10:09] <liable> Jared: /usr/share/doc/libcssdvd :)
[10:09] <heth> hey... heyyy??:))))
[10:09] <Chrisu> let me c
[10:09] <heth> somebody?
[10:09] <Jared> ...i mean to download and install it liable
[10:09] <youngcoder> heth i answered you a sec go
[10:09] <liable> Chrisu: ls /rescue
[10:09] <eric_> With windows you had to worry about all of that stuff to keep it running
[10:09] <heth> o, sorry i havent saw it
[10:09] <Chrisu> no
[10:09] <Chrisu> there is no file at all
[10:10] <Chrisu> not a single one
[10:10] <liable> Jared: yes, go there and read :)
[10:10] <michael_> wine?
[10:10] <intelikey> Chrisu you don't have the ubuntu install mounted there
[10:10] <Jared> okay
[10:10] <youngcoder> heth, it depends on what you plan to do with your computer
[10:10] <heth> youngcoder, i saw it, am, desktop system
[10:10] <faisal_d> eric_ with windows... there are so many other things to worry about... like viruses
[10:10] <Chrisu> intelikey: mmm ?
[10:10] <heth> just a simple full install
[10:10] <liable> Chrisu: mount /dev/hda4 /rescue
[10:10] <factotum> honestly I wouldnt mind getting rid of the mac sometime soon, but my wife is in love with it
[10:10] <Jared> i don't have libcssdvd there....i need to download it
[10:10] <Jared> off the internet....
[10:11] <heth> youngcoder, i just don't know how much space i need for this, because i'm separating my windows partitions
[10:11] <Chrisu> ubuntu@66-190-246-254:~$ mount /dev/hda4 /rescu
[10:11] <Chrisu> mount: only root can do that
[10:11] <Chrisu> ubuntu@66-190-246-254:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda4 /rescu
[10:11] <Chrisu> mount: mount point /rescu does not exist
[10:11] <Chrisu> ubuntu@66-190-246-254:~$
[10:11] <eric_> I'm in love with linux, Ubuntu to be exact.
[10:11] <heth> youngcoder, to get some space.
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone....
[10:11] <faisal_d> eric_ ubuntu is great... but i have friends who swear by Gentoo...
[10:11] <intelikey> chrism   the    e   on the end of rescue
[10:11] <Jared> i am going to do a dual boot and i need to know....do i need to install windows or linux first.....
[10:11] <Chrisu> hello Inf3ctedFx
[10:11] <faisal_d> There moto is "if it moves, compile it"
[10:12] <liable> Chrisu: typos again..
[10:12] <heth> eric_, simple, beautiful and free, what more :)
[10:12] <Inf3ctedFx> Jared:  I'll recomend u install windows first
[10:12] <Chrisu> .. haha
[10:12] <Inf3ctedFx> so Linux can recognize windows partition and boot sector
[10:12] <eric_> My exact thoughts,  This is my first attempt at using linux and so far so great
[10:12] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello Chrisu
[10:12] <intelikey> liable i think he is copy and pasting but starting at the next to the last char of the post.
[10:12] <Jared> someone told me that i wouldn't be able to do that
[10:12] <liable> intelikey: ah
[10:12] <Chrisu> hello Inf3ctedFx ;)
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> Jared:  I have windows forst on mu HD
[10:13] <eric_> I tried mepis once and didn't care for it.
[10:13] <faisal_d> Jared... don't try to do linux then windows, unless you are a masochist
[10:13] <liable> Jared: actaully i think you want /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3.. :)
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> the when I install ubuntu, it recognize my windows partition itself
[10:13] <Jared> okay
[10:13] <liable> Jared: if i understand you right..
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> Jared: install win first, the partiton ur HD with partiton magic or something like that
[10:13] <Chrisu> am..
[10:14] <intelikey> Chrisu get it mounted ok ?
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> after that linux will do everything 4 u
[10:14] <mynullvoid> anyone managed to convert vob (dvd) to mp4 (for psp)? I need guide please
[10:14] <Chrisu> ready
[10:14] <liable> Jared: theres a shell script you can run..
[10:14] <Chrisu> it's mounted now ;)
[10:14] <liable> yay!
[10:14] <faisal_d> guys, i apt-getted OOo 1.9 on hoary... but now, i realize i need to do a network install of OO... how can i go about that?
[10:14] <Chrisu> :D
[10:14] <liable> chroot /rescue
[10:15] <intelikey> now try the    'sudo chroot /rescue grub-install '  command
[10:15] <Chrisu> ubuntu@66-190-246-254:~$ chroot /rescue
[10:15] <Chrisu> chroot: cannot change root directory to /rescue: Operation not permitted
[10:15] <Chrisu> ubuntu@66-190-246-254:~$ sudo chroot /rescue
[10:15] <Chrisu> root@66-190-246-254:/#
[10:15] <liable> sweet
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> Chrisu:  as a root
[10:15] <liable> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[10:15] <Chrisu> yeah :D
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> xD
[10:16] <intelikey>  'grub-install '
[10:16] <Chrisu> root@66-190-246-254:/# grub-install /dev/hda
[10:16] <Chrisu> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[10:16] <Chrisu> root@66-190-246-254:/#
[10:17] <liable> oh bugger.. thats the problem with running grub-install in a chroot..
[10:17] <faisal_d> anybody can help me with my OpenOffice question??
[10:17] <liable> Chrisu: ok we try with just grub (although it will prolly fail too..)
[10:17] <liable> Chrisu: grub
[10:17] <liable> Chrisu: root (hd0,3)
[10:17] <liable> Chrisu: setup (hd0)
[10:17] <lws> inte, yo
[10:17] <youngcoder> faisal_d, you have to ask the question to find out :)
[10:17] <liable> Chrisu: quit
[10:18] <intelikey> lws yes
[10:18] <faisal_d> youngcoder, i did... twice :(
[10:18] <intelikey> lws what is ?
[10:18] <Chrisu> grub> root (hd0,3)
[10:18] <Chrisu>  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[10:18] <lws> intelikey: That didn't work . I used medium for the refresh range config.  There's nothing in there for 1280x1024@75 hz.  if i select 1600x1200@75 or 85 it still doesn't work
[10:18] <Chrisu> there is soemthing weird...  I don't have any single ext2fs partition... never had one
[10:18] <lws> intelikey: and i have no idea what to specify under advanced as my refresh rate
[10:19] <michael_> anyone here use wine?
[10:19] <Inf3ctedFx> I did  michael_
[10:19] <Inf3ctedFx> why?
[10:19] <Chrisu> grub> setup (hd0)
[10:19] <Chrisu>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
[10:19] <Chrisu>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
[10:19] <Chrisu>  Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
[10:19] <Chrisu>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"...  16 sectors are embedded.
[10:19] <Chrisu> succeeded
[10:19] <michael_> is it any good, is it worth it?
[10:19] <Chrisu>  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,3)/boot/grub/stage2
[10:19] <Chrisu> /boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded
[10:19] <Chrisu> Done.
[10:19] <intelikey> ah ok then the 1600 is too high lws ?
[10:19] <Chrisu> Hope I am not disturbing by my paste to anyone.
[10:19] <youngcoder> faisal_d, what kind of network install are you talking about having to do?
[10:20] <Inf3ctedFx> michael_:  Hell yeah
[10:20] <Inf3ctedFx> what do u want to use it for michael_ ?
[10:20] <heth> good day people! i love you ;) i really appreciate the kindness here:)
[10:20] <lws> intelikey: no my monitor will do 1600x1200@60hz, it asks you to specify the max
[10:20] <intelikey> lws when you say doesn't work   for the 1600 what exactly does  'doesnt work' mean ?
[10:20] <youngcoder> hethhappy holidays!
[10:20] <faisal_d> youngcoder, i have no idea... what i want is this: http://udk.openoffice.org/python/oood/ and it requires a net install... probably to allow others in your domain to use your OO installation
[10:20] <lws> intelikey: if i specify any of the 1600x1200, regardless of what refresh i specify them at, 1280x1024 still only allows me to select 60 hz
[10:20] <youngcoder> oops
[10:20] <michael_> like office, skype, win apps like that
[10:21] <Inf3ctedFx> skype there is one for linux..
[10:21] <liable> Chrisu: try a reboot i guess..
[10:21] <Chrisu> ok.
[10:21] <faisal_d> michael_ office: use OpenOffice, or crossover office if you must use M$ office
[10:21] <Chrisu> BRB guys :)
[10:21] <michael_> office?
[10:21] <Inf3ctedFx> Office u have OpenOffice michael_  what else
[10:21] <Chrisu> I will reboot
[10:21] <faisal_d> michael_ skype there is a linux version
[10:21] <michael_> well wat else would u use, wine for, i heard its awesome
[10:21] <faisal_d> michael_ for games try out cedega: www.transgaming.com
[10:21] <Inf3ctedFx> michael_:  skype?? there is one for linux but I'll recomend u Gizmo Project much better
[10:21] <jenda> michael_: Open Office is a lot better than MS Office.
[10:22] <intelikey> hmmm lws   i don't know then.  i thought i remembered seeing that as an option but i can't call you wrong, so i don't know.
[10:22] <Inf3ctedFx> michael_:  what is the point u want to use wind appl. on linux?  linux has everything windows offer 4 free
[10:22] <youngcoder> faisal_d, ok so u downloaded the zip file and unzipped it and got what errors?
[10:22] <lws> intelikey: I dunno, and i don't know how to find my vertical and horizontal refresh rates
[10:22] <liable> Inf3ctedFx: not everything..
[10:23] <liable> Inf3ctedFx: unfortunately..
[10:23] <cmptrman> Could anyone help me. I have a file that I cant delete as root.
[10:23] <faisal_d> youngcoder: in the first step the setup -d ... it keeps on saying command not found... and i am in the openoffice directory
[10:23] <michael_> mmm image editing, audio editing, i cant seem to get audio workin as well on kde than gnome
[10:23] <Inf3ctedFx> liable:  so far everything I need, linux has it
[10:23] <faisal_d> cmptrman: what fiel is that?
[10:23] <Inf3ctedFx> michael_:  linux hjas audio editions here also
[10:23] <Inf3ctedFx> for me works perfect
[10:23] <cmptrman> its the libexif.so.10.0.0
[10:23] <intelikey> lws you could search at    monitorworld.com   and see if they know the horizantal and vertical ranges for your monitor and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  by hand
[10:24] <liable> Inf3ctedFx: yes, but there are some things out there that are only done for windows (even free apps) but hopefully they will run in wine anyway..
[10:24] <michael_> nuuthin that adds up to adobe audition of audcaity...
[10:24] <faisal_d> it's an so -shared library. Probably something is using it
[10:24] <michael_> i still have win xp installed on another partition
[10:24] <michael_> mmmm, how do i mount my win xp parition?
[10:24] <Inf3ctedFx> michael_:  me2, but I use wine just for games...
[10:24] <faisal_d> cmptrmanthere's a command to find out what are the dependencies...maybe ldconfig?
[10:24] <Ooze> faisal_d: he couldn't delete it from a live cd either.
[10:24] <lws> intelikey, nope, not there
[10:24] <lws> intelikey, i have a D1726T-HS
[10:25] <michael_> ok so u use wine for games, would halo work on wine?
[10:25] <faisal_d> dude... wine does NOT do games...
[10:25] <Ooze> faisal_d: We couldn't change permissions on it, or reinstall it. It denies root access.
[10:25] <Chrisu> I'm back again guys !!
[10:25] <Chrisu> :D
[10:25] <Inf3ctedFx> faisal_d:  I play Couter Strike here on linux no problem at all
[10:25] <faisal_d> michael_ what you need is wineX or as it have become known Cedega
[10:26] <grayman_> well
[10:26] <Chrisu> Hope I joined your clan by now : P
[10:26] <owner989> cedega sucks also
[10:26] <grayman_> alot of fps have a linux driver
[10:26] <owner989> but you can try it
[10:26] <faisal_d> Ooze: really?? that is very interesting
[10:26] <grayman_> so theres no need in wine too
[10:26] <michael_> is cadega free, and would halo work on it?
[10:26] <Ooze> faisal_d: I thought so too.
[10:26] <owner989> cedega is not free
[10:26] <liable> lws: you could try hwinfo also..
[10:26] <Inf3ctedFx> faisal_d:  yes.. and works just fine... kind of laggy but it works
[10:26] <liable> Chrisu: it worked yay!
[10:26] <owner989> but they have a trial or something
[10:26] <intelikey> lws AAMAZING ?
[10:26] <Chrisu> Liable,
[10:27] <liable> Chrisu:
[10:27] <Chrisu> Liable and Intelikey !! I love you guys !!
[10:27] <owner989> for example, cedega plays counterstrike, but not battlefield 1942, even though its listed as working on their website
[10:27] <lws> ii tried ddcprobe
[10:27] <michael_> how to install a .deb file?
[10:27] <owner989> dpkg -i michael
[10:27] <faisal_d> Cedega isn't free, requries a $5/month subscription... check http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/ for a list of games it runs
[10:27] <intelikey> michael_ dpkg -i
[10:27] <Chrisu> BYT, I wanted to ask you liable. how do you know if I faild or not ?
[10:27] <Inf3ctedFx> michael_:  dpkg -i the_file_name.deb
[10:27] <lws> liable, what's that?
[10:27] <youngcoder> faisal_d, did you start a new multi-user installation by using         start $ setup -net
[10:27] <youngcoder> ?
[10:27] <owner989> the best idea is to install windows 98 or 2000 using vmware player
[10:28] <liable> lws: aptitude show hwinfo :)
[10:28] <owner989> or something similar
[10:28] <cafebabe> newbie question: I'm using "apt-get install " to install a package, is it possible to download it somehow, and then install from local hard drive?
[10:28] <owner989> there are guides on ubuntu forums
[10:28] <faisal_d> youngcoder: no... that's my question... how do i do that? it's not accepting the command.. and i did a normal apt-get install for openoffice 1.9
[10:28] <michael_> how do i dpkg?
[10:28] <Inf3ctedFx> cafebabe:  yes, download the package the do a dpkg -i name_of_the_package.deb
[10:28] <cafebabe> thank you!
[10:28] <Chrisu> Liable. Sonn I shall gain more knowledge about Linux and their surroundings... just like you :)
[10:29] <Chrisu> Thank you again
[10:29] <grayman_> michael_, in shell
[10:29] <Ooze> faisal_d: /j #LinuxHelp
[10:29] <Inf3ctedFx> michael_:  on the terminal type dpkg -i blablbal
[10:29] <Chrisu> You guys are my heroes !!
[10:29] <Ooze> faisal_d: oops
[10:29] <faisal_d> Ooze: i didn't get that !!
[10:29] <intelikey> !cli
[10:29] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[10:29] <owner989> wine is decent because it can play media player 7 and IE 6
[10:30] <intelikey> michael_  it is CLI  command
[10:30] <michael_> how do i mount my win xp parition on my linux partion
[10:30] <intelikey> !ntfs
[10:30] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:30] <faisal_d> is it NTFS?
[10:30] <grayman_> why anyone would need IE and mediaplayer on linux?
[10:30] <faisal_d> grayman_ : what? did somebody ask for that??
[10:30] <intelikey> need or want.....
[10:30] <Inf3ctedFx> michael_:  u have to create a partiton poitn forst// if u r on ubuntu I'll recoment u create the point of mount on /media
[10:30] <Chrisu> well...
[10:30] <michael_> yes it is ntfs, yes i understand ill only be able to read files off it
[10:30] <grayman_> owner989 wine is decent because it can play media player 7 and IE 6
[10:30] <Madpilot> the only reason you'd ever need IE is if you build websites, because IE breaks HTML in special ways...
[10:31] <grayman_> he did
[10:31] <owner989> grayman, it showcases its abilities
[10:31] <liable> Chrisu: have fun, and be carefull with gparted! :)
[10:31] <grayman_> ah
[10:31] <faisal_d> grayman_ sorry, just saw the post :)
[10:31] <Chrisu> I have to go to sleep. Thank you guys. Muchas gracias.  [doumo arigatou]
[10:31] <michael_> ill log out and go in to gnome and infected can u guide me through it please?
[10:31] <Chrisu> yeah, now I know how dangerous it is : P
[10:31] <intelikey> and weeners and navhos to you
[10:31] <owner989> besides imbedded wmv videos work perfectly in ie6 under wine
[10:31] <youngcoder> faisal_d, i dont know what to tell you i hae never tried this before
[10:32] <owner989> not thats really good as an everyday browser
[10:32] <intelikey> errr nacho's  ^
[10:32] <faisal_d> youngcoder: thanx for trying anyway :)
[10:32] <youngcoder> faisal_d, well the wierd command make me wonder tho
[10:32] <faisal_d> youngcoder: thank you, so i am not going insane? you too think it's weird :-D
[10:33] <kevor> Hi there, what is different between a debian base system that can receive mails, and a ubuntu system that can't?
[10:33] <kevor> other words, what do i need to install to receive mails on this ubuntu box
[10:33] <intelikey> oh lws it's a Sony Trinitron 17" ?
[10:33] <slide> Is there anyway to make sound-juicer rip my own directory scheme? The one i want isnt listed in its preferences.
[10:33] <youngcoder> faisal_d, i it was copied from an email so there must be some kind of error in the command
[10:34] <faisal_d> youngcoder: if only i could find the original e-mail
[10:34] <grayman_> kevor, what do you mean? you get mail with an email client
[10:34] <faisal_d> kevor: what do you mean?
[10:34] <youngcoder> faisal_d, lol ya no kidding.. you could contact the site and ask them what the heck they are thinking tho
[10:34] <faisal_d> kevor: you mean you want to setup a mail server?
[10:34] <kevor> just get mail to your /var/mail
[10:35] <Sepheebear> kevor: it depends. if you want to simply pull from another mail server, use fetchmail or getmail. if you want to setup a smtp server install postfix or exim
[10:35] <grayman_> errrrrrr
[10:35] <kevor> what's installed on debian by default?
[10:35] <grayman_> i dont get that one
[10:35] <faisal_d> kevor: i think the default is postfix, but not sure though
[10:35] <Sepheebear> debian i think still uses exim
[10:35] <Sepheebear> by default
[10:35] <kevor> hmm, maybe check #debian out :P
[10:35] <lws> intelikey, i guess
[10:36] <kevor> a default install of debian can just receive mails to user@ip
[10:36] <intelikey> lws  H Freq/ V Freq:       30-85 khz / 48-150 hz
[10:36] <lws> intelikey, i figured out the refresh ranges, hwinfo --monitor gave it to me
[10:36] <grayman_> you want to setup a lan mail service, local system reports by email or want to get emails from the ent
[10:36] <grayman_> ?
[10:36] <grayman_> *net
[10:36] <lws> intelikey, not quite that good, 31-85 50-100
[10:37] <kevor> grayman_: just want 'm from the net, like if someone wants to send me a file of 4 gig, he can just mail it..
[10:37] <intelikey> lws do a 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf '   and try that i pasted. it's supposed to be for your monitor
[10:37] <grayman_> why not to use a normal mail calient?
[10:37] <youngcoder> hey faisal_d did you try running those commands through the python interpreter in konsole?
[10:37] <lws> intelikey, normally i wouldn't care about it being 60 hz. but with proper gamma it's really annoying  on MacOS X
[10:38] <owner989> 60hz is fine on an LCD screen
[10:38] <lws> intelikey, i have a KVM and it's really slow to switch between modes on this monitor.  So if all the computers are the same res and refresh i can swap between computers on my KVM without any flickering
[10:38] <Sepheebear> IMHO setting up a mail server without a static ip is much more work than its worth
[10:38] <faisal_d> youngcoder: no... i thought i needed the OO binaries...
[10:38] <faisal_d> youngcoder: going to try it now, thanx for the idea... never crossed my mind
[10:39] <faisal_d> youngcoder: ah, i just rememberd, how do you open a python shell??
[10:39] <grayman_> and sending a 4gig file by email is not a good idea
[10:39] <Sepheebear> faisal_d: fire up a terminal and type in "python"
[10:39] <grayman_> better setup an ftp or something
[10:39] <youngcoder> session-->python
[10:39] <lws> intelikey, I got it working, thank you for all your help
[10:39] <intelikey> sure lws   oh and  http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/dell/17hstrinitron.html  might work too.
[10:40] <intelikey> you bet.
[10:40] <faisal_d> youngcoder: no, they didn't work
[10:40] <lws> intelikey, in the future. hwinfo --monitor works very well :)
[10:40] <youngcoder> dang
[10:40] <intelikey> on some hardware yes.
[10:41] <youngcoder> well im off... happy holidays
[10:42] <intelikey> happy holy days
[10:43] <faisal_d> youngcoder: thanx, and happy holidays to you
[10:44] <raquen> salve a tutti
[10:44] <raquen> qualcuno mi pu dire il comando per entrare in una cartella
[10:45] <Inf3ctedFx> raquen:  entiendo italiano pero no mucho :)
[10:45] <intelikey> the dickens you say.
[10:46] <Inf3ctedFx> raquen:  what to know the command to get acces to a file
[10:46] <raquen> sorry.. the command for enter on a folder
[10:46] <Inf3ctedFx> raquen: said: somebody can tell me the command to get access to a foder
[10:46] <intelikey> the chmod  or  chown  or just how to find it ?
[10:47] <eek-0> wewt
[10:47] <eek-0> umm
[10:47] <eek-0> i have a question
[10:47] <eek-0> is there anyway for me to tell what version of ubuntu i have by using a command in the terminal?
[10:47] <Inf3ctedFx> raquen:  from italy?
[10:47] <intelikey> uname
[10:47] <Inf3ctedFx> uname -a
[10:47] <michael_> anyone here use wireless internet?
[10:47] <intelikey> -r actually
[10:47] <raquen> Inf3ctedFx yes.. thanks
[10:48] <liable> michael_: no. no-one :P
[10:48] <Inf3ctedFx> no problema raquen
[10:48] <eek-0> err
[10:48] <eek-0> uname just says linux
[10:48] <eek-0> on
[10:48] <eek-0> uname r
[10:48] <Inf3ctedFx> raquen:  where do u want to access?
[10:48] <michael_> oh damm, cause i want help with settin up wireless, is it possible?
[10:48] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0: uname -a or uname -r
[10:48] <eek-0> well
[10:48] <eek-0> i have version 5.04
[10:48] <faisal_d> inf3ctedFx, neither... i tried themnow
[10:48] <eek-0> root@bradley:/home/ace # uname -r
[10:48] <eek-0> 2.6.10-5-386
[10:48] <eek-0> root@bradley:/home/ace # uname -a
[10:48] <raquen> I want install this programm
[10:48] <eek-0> and its says that
[10:48] <faisal_d> eek-0 that's horay hedghog
[10:48] <anir> hello
[10:48] <intelikey> !ops
[10:48] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[10:48] <anir> how are you all..
[10:49] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0:  well i believe  the best way is check ur sources.list
[10:49] <eek-0> eh?
[10:49] <anir> i have a problem..
[10:49] <anir> i need help
[10:49] <michael_> wirelss internet?
[10:49] <faisal_d> eek-0, ubunut 5.04 is called hoary hedgehog
[10:49] <eek-0> duh
[10:49] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0: check if in ur sources.list said something like horay or breezy
[10:49] <anir> can a wise one assist me??
[10:49] <eek-0> where is that
[10:49] <anir> please
[10:49] <Inf3ctedFx> *hoary actually
[10:50] <eek-0> anir, what's wrong?
[10:50] <faisal_d> eek-0... /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:50] <jenda> anir: ask
[10:50] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0:  cd /etc/apt/  then do nano sources.list
[10:50] <eek-0> umm
[10:50] <eek-0> i know how to navigate
[10:50] <Inf3ctedFx> ok so.. go to sources.list then do a "nano:
[10:50] <LCamel_> hello ... is it possible to tell "make-kpkg" to use gcc 4.0 ?
[10:51] <eek-0> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main $
[10:51] <Inf3ctedFx> or pico  or vi or whatever edito u want to use
[10:51] <eek-0> hah
[10:51] <eek-0> pico
[10:51] <eek-0> vi
[10:51] <eek-0> ?
[10:51] <Inf3ctedFx> Hoary
[10:51] <Inf3ctedFx> I use breezy
[10:51] <Inf3ctedFx> :)
[10:51] <eek-0> eh
[10:51] <eek-0> im fixing to install slackware
[10:51] <anir> eek-0, jenda while loggin on.. it shows a message that my $ home/.dmrc should be owned by a user and set 644 permission.. how to go about it.. because of it i am not been abloe to run firefox and some programs.
[10:51] <Determinist> LCamel_, i'm willing to guess make-kpkg has nothing to do with gcc... but i may be wrong, either way, CC=gcc-4.0 and export CC prior to make-kpkg should do the trick
[10:51] <eek-0> use sudo?
[10:51] <eek-0> umm
[10:52] <eek-0> Inf3ctedFx, umm...would it be hard to compile KDE?
[10:52] <faisal_d> anir... try sudo chmod 644 ~/.dmrc
[10:52] <Inf3ctedFx> use kubuntu
[10:52] <eek-0> ?
[10:52] <eek-0> kubuntu?
[10:52] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0:  use kubuntu
[10:52] <eek-0> fool
[10:52] <Inf3ctedFx> is the KDE fpor ubuntu
[10:52] <eek-0> im fixing to install slack
[10:52] <jenda> anir: sudo chmod 644 $home/.dmrc - but I'll check that first
[10:52] <Inf3ctedFx> ubuntu = gnome  kbuntu =KDE
[10:52] <eek-0> DUDE
[10:52] <Inf3ctedFx> :)
[10:52] <eek-0> IM FIXING TO GET OFF OF UBUNTU
[10:52] <ompaul> eek-0, so go to #slackware
[10:52] <LCamel_> Determinist: thanks ... i have tried "CC=gcc-4.0 sudo make-kpkg --initrd ..." but it keeps asking for gcc-3.4
[10:52] <eek-0> good idea
[10:52] <intelikey> anir 'sudo chown anir:anir .wmrc ;chmod 644 .wmrc '
[10:52] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh on slack
[10:53] <Determinist> eek-0, then do so and stop being annoying.
[10:53] <kventil> cheerio
[10:53] <eek-0> stfu
[10:53] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0:  its beena while I sue slack
[10:53] <eek-0> ahh
[10:53] <ompaul> eek-0, why are you here?
[10:53] <michael_> u can have kde under ubuntu
[10:53] <jenda> anir: OK, listen to intelikey :)
[10:53] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0:  this channel said #UBUNTU xD
[10:53] <eek-0> yea i know
[10:53] <michael_> just log off click session then clikc kde then log in
[10:53] <michael_> geez
[10:53] <anir> intelikey, chown: cannot access `.wmrc': No such file or directory
[10:53] <anir> chmod: cannot access `.wmrc': No such file or directory
[10:53] <Determinist> LCamel_, erm, i guess you've done export ... right?
[10:53] <anir> jenda it shows an error
[10:53] <Inf3ctedFx> but eek-0  u might check www.linuxpackage.net
[10:53] <alekz> hi, anyone knows any "hacking" game for linux ?
[10:54] <LCamel_> Determinist: yes ..
[10:54] <Inf3ctedFx> those r the package for slack
[10:54] <eek-0> eh
[10:54] <eek-0> ahh, thanks
[10:54] <intelikey> anir you must be in the same directory.
[10:54] <Determinist> LCamel_, you trying to compile a kernel?
[10:54] <faisal_d> anir: do sudo chown anir.anir ~/.dmrc then sudo chmod 644 ~/.dmrc
[10:54] <Determinist> LCamel_, duh, disregard that please
[10:54] <Inf3ctedFx> but as far as I know eek-0  slack comes with gnome and KDE
[10:54] <eek-0> no
[10:54] <LCamel_> Determinist: yes, i'm going to compile 2.6.12
[10:54] <eek-0> not the first disc only
[10:54] <Inf3ctedFx> ?
[10:54] <jenda> anir: what error?
[10:54] <eek-0> apt-get install kde?
[10:54] <Determinist> LCamel_, why not compile using gcc-3.4 tho?
[10:54] <intelikey> anir  i assumed the user name was your nick name if not change it accordingly.
[10:54] <Inf3ctedFx> when I used to use slack I have to use 3 disk
[10:54] <michael_> kde is already installed eek
[10:54] <intelikey> anir 'sudo chown anir:anir .wmrc ;chmod 644 .wmrc '
[10:55] <michael_> no need
[10:55] <Inf3ctedFx> to install the whole slackware
[10:55] <eek-0> michael_, on slackware?
[10:55] <ompaul> eek-0, lets look at it this way - sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop << you get a nice enough kde env under Ubuntu
[10:55] <eek-0> the first disc only
[10:55] <eek-0> you fool
[10:55] <eek-0> you haven't been paying attention
[10:55] <michael_> wat u mean slackware?
[10:55] <Determinist> ohh, someone kick this asshole already
[10:55] <eek-0> slackware...
[10:55] <ompaul> eek-0, lean now please
[10:55] <eek-0> as in another OS
[10:56] <ompaul> leave even
[10:56] <LCamel_> Determinist: because 4.0 is right there ... and Debian.src.changelog has mentioned some changes for compiling under gcc4.0
[10:56] <ompaul> !ops
[10:56] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[10:56] <eek-0> ompaul, shut the fuck up
[10:56] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0:  there is not reaso to trade someone like that dude
[10:56] <anir> intelikey,  cannot access `.wmrc': No such file or directory
[10:56] <eek-0> eh?
[10:56] <eek-0> Inf3ctedFx, that site doesn't work
[10:56] <Inf3ctedFx> u came here 4 help.. and beside u came to the wrong channel
[10:56] <eek-0> linuxpackage.net
[10:56] <jenda> eek-0: You have been banned yesterday already
[10:56] <eek-0> haha
[10:56] <intelikey> anir   do ' cd '   first and try again.
[10:56] <eek-0> good
[10:56] <mike_> Where is grub.conf located ?
[10:56] <Determinist> LCamel_, i see. i'll try looking around for an answer to that, but cant say i can help with that mate, sorry :)
[10:56] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0:  http://www.linuxpackages.net/
[10:56] <eek-0> mike_, whereis grub.conf
[10:57] <LCamel_> Determinist: i'm considering create a symbolic link for gcc-3.4 to gcc-4.0, but i'm afraid it is a bad workaround
[10:57] <anir> intelikey, yes i am doing cd and then typing the code.. the error is showing
[10:57] <LCamel_> Determinist: thank you very much !!  How can I play my newest dvd? The old ones work quite well.
[10:59] <owner989> osh try vlc player
[10:59] <anir> intelikey, i typed.... sudo chown anir:anir .wmrc ;chmod 644 .wmrc.. no message was shown
[10:59] <Determinist> good riddance, now he can go and bug the guys in #slackware :P
[11:00] <faisal_d> Determinist, think we should go and warn them :)
[11:00] <intelikey> anir in linux  no error message  means no error
[11:00] <Determinist> faisal_d, should we? lol
[11:00] <ompaul> faisal_d, they will deal with him :-)
[11:00] <intelikey> aka success
[11:00] <liable>  no news is good news :)
[11:00] <anir> intelikey, okay.. still i cant start firefox...
[11:00] <cmptrman> Could anyone help me. I have a file that I cant delete as root. I have tried to delete it from live cd also.
[11:00] <intelikey> what error does it give now ?
[11:00] <osh_> owner989: no go. still can't read the dvd.
[11:00] <liable> cmptrman: what file is it?
[11:01] <liable> cmptrman: and what alerted you to this file?
[11:01] <cmptrman> its: libexif.so.10.0.0
[11:01] <anir> intelikey, whenever i click on th efirefox icon.. nothing happens. i mean it loads but closes automatically
[11:01] <osh_> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access
[11:01] <osh_> libdvdread: Can't stat
[11:02] <jenda> intelikey: danke :)
[11:02] <cmptrman> trying to use nautilus, i just upgraded to hoary
[11:02] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone knows how can I make it work the SiS audio integrate card ?
[11:02] <intelikey> anir do a 'sudo chown anir:anir ./ -R '    and start ff again.
[11:02] <JKnife> Inf3ctedFx, alsa?
[11:02] <LCamel_> Determinist: export MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-4.0" works !
[11:02] <faisal_d> anir, try starting FF from the command line, and see if it gives you an error message
[11:03] <Inf3ctedFx> well JKnife  actually isnt for me is for someone in #ubuntu-es xD
[11:03] <JKnife> what version of X does breezy have?
[11:03] <jenda> how does one switch between channels in irssi?
[11:03] <Inf3ctedFx> jenda: ctrl+n
[11:03] <anir> faisal_d, how do i start from command line?
[11:03] <faisal_d> anir: just type firefox :)
[11:03] <michael_> wireless internet?
[11:04] <intelikey> jenda  [alt] #
[11:04] <liable> jenda: ctrl n/p or esc (number)
[11:04] <intelikey> is it ctrl Inf3ctedFx ?
[11:04] <anir> faisal_d, (firefox-bin:7859): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[11:04] <anir> (firefox-bin:7859): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[11:04] <anir> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXt.so [libXt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[11:04] <anir> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXext.so [libXext.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[11:04] <anir> Segmentation fault
[11:04] <intelikey> i may be wrong on that one.
[11:04] <Inf3ctedFx> intelikey:  yes
[11:04] <Inf3ctedFx> ctrl+n
[11:04] <intelikey> k
[11:04] <intelikey> does alt work too ?
[11:04] <eek-0> heh
[11:04] <eek-0> changed my mind
[11:04] <eek-0> im not gonna use slack
[11:04] <eek-0> :(
[11:05] <eek-0> too advanced
[11:05] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0:  actually slack is pretty good but ubuntu helps u a lot
[11:05] <faisal_d> eek-0, try win3.x, might be suitable
[11:05] <JKnife> its to easy
[11:05] <eek-0> slack is easy/
[11:05] <eek-0> i only have the first dics
[11:05] <eek-0> disc*
[11:05] <Wilf> eek-0, try Microsoft Bob.
[11:05] <anir> faisal_d, have u seen the error message
[11:05] <eek-0> *sigh*
[11:05] <ompaul> so you download the rest
[11:05] <eek-0> nah
[11:05] <eek-0> i'll just stick with ubuntu
[11:06] <ompaul> eek-0, you are what is called a troll
[11:06] <eek-0> but
[11:06] <faisal_d> anir: you have a missing shared library!!!! try sudo ldconfig
[11:06] <eek-0> i do need to update
[11:06] <eek-0> i have 5.04
[11:06] <Inf3ctedFx> what is the command on alsa to store the configuration?
[11:06] <ompaul> !update
[11:06] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ompaul
[11:06] <ompaul> !breezy
[11:06] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:06] <Inf3ctedFx> eek-0:  I use to have that one and I update is pretty good xD
[11:06] <eek-0> ahh
[11:06] <eek-0> thanks
[11:06] <anir> faisal_d, yes i tried .. no error
[11:06] <ompaul> eek-0, read that do that and leave us alone thank you
[11:06] <michael_> download 5.10
[11:06] <eek-0> dude
[11:06] <faisal_d> anir: after that try doing firefox
[11:06] <eek-0> what is your fucking problem?
[11:06] <ompaul> u
[11:06] <intelikey> anir are you running in a chroot'd environment ?
[11:06] <Inf3ctedFx> ..???
[11:06] <Seveas> eek-0, watch your languag
[11:07] <eek-0> okay.
[11:07] <anir> intelikey, i dont know.. how do i check that
[11:07] <intelikey> you arent then .....
[11:07] <tiglionabbit> is there a way by commandline to recursive copy all folders except 2 certain ones?
[11:07] <liable> !usbmount
[11:07] <ubotu> liable: Not a clue
[11:07] <anir> intelikey, well i tried .. chanfe user and i typed root... i think after that i am getting the problems..
[11:08] <liable> doh wrong channel
[11:08] <anir> can i restore to a previous settings.. intelikey
[11:08] <Inf3ctedFx> ok last question how can make my printer work?
[11:08] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, switch it on?
[11:08] <eek-0> ompaul, so for that brezzy whatever..i have to download another .iso ?
[11:08] <Inf3ctedFx> hahahahah
[11:08] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, linuxprinting.org may help
[11:08] <Inf3ctedFx> that was good lol
[11:09] <Seveas> eek-0, read that url ubotu gave, you don't need a new iso
[11:09] <intelikey> anir previous settings of what ?
[11:09] <eek-0> i am reading it
[11:09] <eek-0> it says i need the brezzey disc
[11:09] <Seveas> eek-0, good :)
[11:09] <Inf3ctedFx> Seveas:  dude I use to work to AOL and that joke remind me a AOL member.. sooo stupid ppl lol
[11:09] <Seveas> you don't
[11:09] <anir> intelikey, of my system.. ubuntu
[11:09] <eek-0> eh?
[11:09] <ompaul> eek-0, well if you did what it says on that page you could be started already
[11:09] <eek-0> hmm
[11:09] <faisal_d> ubotu... i tried doing what that upgrade thread says... and it broke my machien!!
[11:09] <eek-0> well first off
[11:10] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, hehe, even AOL people must be smarter than that :)
[11:10] <intelikey> you mean like boot a different kernel anir ?
[11:10] <eek-0> my sound isnt working....i think i need to install a driver...  Card: VIA 8325 :: Chip: C-Media Electronics CMI 9761
[11:10] <eek-0> what should i do? :(
[11:10] <ompaul> eek-0, I called you a troll at least once today - please cease
[11:10] <eek-0> ...
[11:10] <ompaul> upgrade and check it out
[11:10] <eek-0> yes because you're an idiot
[11:10] <eek-0> and shut up
[11:10] <eek-0> trying to get some crap started
[11:10] <Wilf> hmmm.
[11:11] <intelikey> anir i'm sorry i am having trubble understanding you.  my english is not so good.
[11:11] <Wilf> any good games, similar to RTCW: Enemy Territory, out these days?
[11:11] <deFrysk> lol
[11:11] <anir> intelikey, no.. i have some packages from synaptics.. so can i get back.. from exam 2 hours back settings
[11:11] <jenda> liableintelikeyInf3ctedFx: yo thanks :)
[11:11] <Hobbsee> hehehe @ Seveas
[11:11] <faisal_d> Seveas, thank you thank you thank you
[11:11] <Hobbsee> nice work :P
[11:11] <Inf3ctedFx> Does anyone play not pront?
[11:11] <anir> intelikey, i am sorry .. i am typing some rubblish...lol.. wait
[11:12] <ompaul> folks lesson 101 in troll spotting solve a problem and then they do more
[11:12] <faisal_d> inf3ctedFx... you mean notpron??
[11:12] <deFrysk> Seveas, watch your ban-language :D
[11:12] <anir> intelikey, is there any system restore ppoint in linux?
[11:12] <Seveas>  /kick deFrysk Sorry dear sir :p
[11:12] <deFrysk> lol
[11:12] <liable> anir: no, not unless you make it..
[11:12] <faisal_d> anir... just go to synaptic.. uninstall and reinstall firefox... that's the easiest thing to do
[11:13] <liable> anir: and its not like you imagine anyway, i would think..
[11:13] <anir> faisal_d, i have tried that too... but for no use
[11:13] <Determinist> LCamel_, i'm glad, i was just looking at something similar :)
[11:13] <ompaul> folks lesson 101 in troll spotting solve a problem and then move to a new one before tackling problem one
[11:13] <anir> liable, perhaps..
[11:13] <faisal_d> anir... is there anything else broken? except FF?
[11:14] <cold_feet> does anyone do shell scripting here? i need a little help :D
[11:14] <liable> anir: if you want an older version of firefox, use dpkg to install it from your apt cache.
[11:14] <Seveas> cold_feet, 'sup?
[11:14] <faisal_d> cold_feet: just a little, but shoot anyway
[11:14] <anir> faisal_d, yes .. some but i cant make out at this moment
[11:15] <cold_feet> my /usr/bin does not contain
[11:15] <faisal_d> anir... did you change into root user and did something?
[11:15] <cold_feet> getopts
[11:15] <LCamel_> Determinist: :D
[11:15] <cold_feet> my /usr/bin does not contain: 'getopts'...it just has getopt
[11:16] <anir> faisal_d, yes i tried to be root.. and i dont remember actually doing anything as root
[11:16] <Seveas> cold_feet, getopt is the getopt program, not getopts
[11:16] <faisal_d> anir: as a general rule try not to become root, unless you know what's going on... use sudo instead
[11:16] <cold_feet> ?
[11:16] <osh_> It seems like all dvd-programs depend on libdvdcss and since that doesn't manage to read the dvd whatever program I use is SOL. :-(
[11:16] <Seveas> cold_feet, getopts is a bash internal thing
[11:17] <faisal_d> anyhow... try to remember what you did... because frankly i have no idea what is going on your  machine
[11:17] <Seveas> Determinist, re: xorg configuration: I suck at it
[11:17] <anir> faisal_d, okay.. so whats the solution now.. firefox is not running amd i cant open documents from home folder
[11:17] <faisal_d> not even using cat or less???
[11:17] <The_Universe> hi
[11:17] <Determinist> Seveas, it's alright, i've sorted it. i just seem to have a really bad hardware for linux lol
[11:17] <cold_feet> so do i still get to use it in my shell script even if i don't see it in /usr/bin?
[11:17] <The_Universe> scuse me anyone here use an ipod with their ubuntu desktop
[11:17] <Seveas> cold_feet, yes
[11:17] <Seveas> cold_feet, read the manpage for bash
[11:18] <cold_feet> ok, thanks...will be trying it :D
[11:18] <anir> faisal_d, just yesterday i installed breezy and i updated all the packages including kernel..
[11:19] <faisal_d> fresh install? or upgraded from hoary?
[11:19] <anir> faisal_d, well fresh install
[11:20] <faisal_d> well, everything should be working fine.. did FF work then stop working right??
[11:20] <anir> faisal_d, and ubuntu is running fine in my system but i have problem with kubuntu.. my system hangs
[11:21] <anir> faisal_d, yes.. it was working.. till some hour back.. but not now
[11:21] <faisal_d> anir: good, can you remember what you did before it stopped working?
[11:22] <anir> faisal_d, yes.. i clicked application>system tools> run as different user.. and i typed some command which was on the wiki page and as root
[11:22] <glick> any ipod users in here?
[11:23] <puffy_> hi all
[11:23] <anir> faisal_d, even totem stops in between ...
[11:23] <faisal_d> anir: can you give me a link to the wiki page you read?
[11:24] <anir> faisal_d, it was ..getting stared with ubuntu.. there how to log in as root
[11:24] <Hobbsee> !root
[11:24] <anir> faisal_d, my browser is not working so i cant give the link .. else i could typed it..
[11:25] <Hobbsee> anir: faisal_d http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo presumably
[11:25] <faisal_d> anir: is that it?
[11:25] <cold_feet> about the shell scripting, can subroutines have arguments?
[11:26] <anir> faisal_d, i dont remember actually .. if u can tell me what is the command written there i can tell u
[11:27] <faisal_d> sudo chown bob *
[11:27] <faisal_d> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:27] <faisal_d> those are the first two examples in the page
[11:27] <Hobbsee> anir: try w3m in a terminal, then you can go look at the page :P
[11:28] <faisal_d> Hobbsee, that is amazing... i didn't know about w3m...
[11:29] <faisal_d> i usually lynx... but w3m looks way better
[11:29] <Hobbsee> i prefer elinks for a text based browser, but w3m is useful
[11:29] <anir> faisal_d, some of the packages also got uninstalled when i uninstalled firefox.. for eg. help and add program.. etc
[11:29] <nandemon1i> hi ppl
[11:30] <nandemon1i> My PS/2 mouse just died and I've rebooted with a old serial one plugged in but ubuntu hasnt auto detected it.. How do I set it up?
[11:31] <michael_> my advice to u is give the computer a break , wait till tomoz to get fresh batteries
[11:31] <michael_> enjoy life!!!
[11:31] <anir> faisal_d, i can tell u .. on the wiki page.. ubuntu 5.10 starter guide
[11:31] <nandemon1i> i mean it is DEAD
[11:31] <michael_> ohh well jus go down to the electronic store tomorrow and get a new mouse
[11:31] <michael_> its not the end of the world
[11:31] <owner989> lol
[11:32] <nandemon1i> I have a mouse a serial one... I want to use this one.. how do I get ubuntu to use it? is there a autodevice scan or do I have tro manually config Xorg
[11:32] <MrMaDSeN> dammit... can't se my windows share anymore
[11:32] <michael_> in fact i would reccomend goin down to your local apple retail store and purchasing a apple mighty mouse
[11:32] <MrMaDSeN> how can that be?
[11:32] <ossiem> hi guys , any1 can tell me how to burn a ccd/image file in ubuntu???
[11:33] <nandemon1i> Your not helping michael_
[11:33] <michael_> sorri im just tryring to bring some joy and laughter, get in the season, its the end of the year geez
[11:33] <nandemon1i> I have a perfectly fine mouse here, I just want to know if there is an auto-detect for mice in ubuntu.. simply
[11:33] <nandemon1i> I would be if I could get this mouse working
[11:34] <wrussian> hello all
[11:34] <wrussian> and for the most part mate, ubuntu detects mice pretty well
[11:34] <faisal_d> anir: is this the command you were talking about?
[11:34] <faisal_d> sudo passwd root
[11:34] <nandemon1i> Thats what I expected but it hasnt picked it up
[11:34] <wrussian> usb?
[11:34] <nandemon1i> Serial
[11:35] <anir> faisal_d, no i just tried to run as root from there..
[11:35] <wrussian> really? weird, ive never actually had a problem with that...
[11:35] <nandemon1i> My ps/2 mouse just died.. pluged in a serial one rebooted and no mouse
[11:35] <michael_> wat are u usin to tlk to us?
[11:35] <anir> faisal_d, i think somethink went wrong there
[11:35] <rosen> Ubuntu just can't handle any mice with more than three buttons it seems ... I just got a MX1000 mouse for xmas at 8 of the buttons on it cannot be assigned ... merry xmas :|
[11:35] <nandemon1i> im running irssi thru term
[11:35] <osh_> I've managed to read the dvd now. Unfortunatly it's still encrypted. Sucks pretty much.
[11:36] <faisal_d> anir: i don't know... all the commands on the wiki jsut change the password and enable/disable root user... those shouldn't break your packages
[11:36] <anir> anyways faisal_d i have winXP in my system.. while booting it shows to os.. one Xp and one Ubuntu.. but after installing the latest kernel.. it shows kernel x.x.9 as well as kernel x.x.10.. so can i remove kernelx.x.9 from the grub loader
[11:37] <wrussian> anyone here managed to get sound working on a recent acer travelmate of any kind?
[11:37] <Hobbsee> anir: yes, you can
[11:37] <anir> Hobbsee, how.?
[11:37] <faisal_d> anir: you can do that... but keep it, it is less than 5 MB
[11:37] <naoshige> good morning people
[11:37] <naoshige> what's up?
[11:37] <ossiem> hi guys , any1 can tell me how to burn a ccd/image file in ubuntu???
[11:37] <Hobbsee> anir: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst - comment them out, or delete the lines that refer to 2.12.9
[11:37] <anir> faisal_d, the space is not proble.. by my booting screen looks so irty
[11:38] <LCamel_> Hi all. I'm trying to apply the vserver 2.0 patch (<IP_ADDRESS>) to a ubuntu patched kernel 2.6.12-10.25, but several chunks of patch failed. Has anyone encountered the same problem ?
[11:38] <nandemon1i> ok, does anyone know what the xorg parameter for serial mice is?
[11:38] <Hobbsee> anir: use 12+ kernels, then say that lol :P
[11:38] <Hobbsee> ossiem: i think you end up using gnomebaker, dont you?
[11:38] <faisal_d> anir: it is best to do like Hobbsee said... just comment them don't delete.. you never know when you might need them again
[11:38] <nandemon1i> IE protocol
[11:38] <jotbewe> anir: /boot/grub/menu.lst - there you can set all the entries.
[11:38] <faisal_d> anir: to comment just add # at the beginning of the line
[11:38] <ossiem> cheers Hobbsee
[11:39] <Hobbsee> no problems ossiem
[11:39] <naoshige> anybody fancy helping me with some mp3 scripts? http://pastebin.com/479050
[11:39] <mrkoje> nandemon1i,  see if you can get any output from your mosue
[11:39] <mrkoje> nandemon1i,  run a  cat /dev/mouse
[11:39] <anir> okay..
[11:39] <wrussian> if someone wants to give me a hand, heres my thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108331
[11:39] <nandemon1i> that's a negative
[11:40] <nandemon1i> not working.. hmm
[11:40] <wrussian> im out of ideas to get sound under ubuntu
[11:40] <nandemon1i> Maybe this mouse is buggered too..
[11:40] <naoshige> hmmm
[11:40] <naoshige> help me out
[11:41] <osh_> wrussian: have a look at alsamixer. that was the problem when I was working with it.
[11:41] <naoshige> i thought ubuntu people were smart ;)
[11:41] <wrussian> im debatably smart
[11:41] <mrkoje> nandemon1i,  try  sudo cat /dev/psaux
[11:41] <wrussian> ive been messing with alsamixer, let me see what it says now
[11:41] <nandemon1i> negative
[11:42] <ossiem> cheers Hobbsee but. Gnomebaker doesnt seem to accept the ccd or the image file
[11:42] <nandemon1i> input output error on /dev/ttys0 ... that's comm 1 yes?
[11:42] <Hobbsee> ossiem: k3b is the other option
[11:42] <ossiem> tried that too
[11:43] <ossiem> unless i doing something wrong
[11:43] <mrkoje> nandemon1i,  yes
[11:43] <ossiem> Hobbsee, u know how i can mount it instead
[11:43] <ossiem> ??
[11:43] <mrkoje> ttyS0
[11:43] <nandemon1i> hmm
[11:43] <keikoz> hi
[11:44] <wrussian> hmm, alsamixer looks the same usual, however im curious, is there any way to turn on an item in alsamixer?
[11:44] <mrkoje> nandemon1i,  crazy but some older bios will let you disable com ports
[11:44] <faisal_d> ossiem... i think you need to specify the filesystem type as iso9660
[11:44] <faisal_d> or something like that... check man mount
[11:44] <wrussian> still around osh_?
[11:44] <ossiem> ok cheers
[11:45] <mrkoje> faisal_d,  thats right   mount -t iso9660 /device  /mount
[11:45] <ossiem> so a img file is iso comaptible?
[11:45] <faisal_d> ofcourse
[11:45] <ossiem> so i mount it like any other iso
[11:45] <ossiem> cool
[11:45] <MrMaDSeN> should be yes
[11:46] <anir> faisal_d, i will type th efull error message.. Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permission and is ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permission
[11:47] <faisal_d> anir: try the following...
[11:47] <Hobbsee> anir: sudo chown anir.anir /.dmrc
[11:47] <Hobbsee> isnt it?
[11:47] <faisal_d> sudo chown anir ~/.dmrc
[11:47] <faisal_d> then sudo chmod 644 ~/.dmrc
[11:48] <anir> faisal_d, it shows sudo chown anir.anir /.dmrc
[11:48] <anir> chown: cannot access `/.dmrc': No such file or directory
[11:48] <Hobbsee> anir: are you logged in as root
[11:48] <anir> Hobbsee, what is the command to edit the grub loader
[11:48] <anir> Hobbsee, no..
[11:49] <Hobbsee> anir: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:49] <ossiem> unknown filesystem  , so it must not be iso9660
[11:49] <wrussian> I'll repeat, if any of you want to help me with my sound problem, heres my thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108331
[11:49] <wrussian> pretty please
[11:49] <ompaul> cyphase, it would be easier to say what was installed :)
[11:49] <Hobbsee> anir: locate .dmrc
[11:49] <Hobbsee> and pastebin it
[11:50] <faisal_d> anir: try sudo find -name .dmrc /
[11:50] <cyphase> ompaul, i mean by anybody, not just me
[11:50] <cyphase> but..
[11:50] <cyphase> you're still right most likely :)
[11:50] <faisal_d> sorry, anir: make that sudo find / -name .dmrc
[11:50] <anir> faisal_d, it gives ./.dmrc
[11:51] <Hobbsee> mmm...that too
[11:51] <ompaul> cyphase, if a program exists in a repo then someone has at some stage installed it
[11:51] <Sh4d0x> goodmorning all
[11:51] <wrussian> hail
[11:51] <faisal_d> anir: do an ls -a... can you see .dmrc???
[11:51] <cyphase> ompaul, not including testing by the ubuntu devs?
[11:51] <cyphase> :)
[11:51] <anir> faisal_d, i have given sudo find / -name .dmrc.. waiting for a reply..
[11:52] <faisal_d> anir: this is going to take some time... it will search the whole system :s
[11:52] <cyphase> anyway..
[11:52] <Hobbsee> faisal_d: ah, which is why i tend to use locate :P
[11:52] <anir> faisal_d, it gave /home/anir/.dmrc
[11:52] <Hobbsee> anir: ok, so sudo chown anir.anir /home/anir/.dmrc
[11:52] <ompaul> cyphase, think about it - if a .deb is there in breezy (forget about dapper it is not in production it is in development) then the program has been built by someone for a task and thus installed by at least them that makes it legit and if it got into a repo people think it is worth while
[11:53] <Hobbsee> anir: and see if that works
[11:53] <faisal_d> anir: do what Hobbsee said
[11:53] <faisal_d> Hobbsee, i didn't know about the locate command :)
[11:53] <anir> Hobbsee, yes
[11:53] <faisal_d> thanx for a new info
[11:53] <Hobbsee> ompaul: not necesarily - means the devs have tested it out, and built it - doesnt necessarily mean that anyone else has installed it...
[11:54] <anir> Hobbsee, faisal_d no error meassage
[11:54] <Hobbsee> faisal_d: no problems - i didnt know about find either
[11:54] <Hobbsee> anir: ok, then sudo chmod 644 /home/anir/.dmrc
[11:54] <faisal_d> anir: great... no error is good.. do chmod then try running the application agian
[11:55] <anir> Hobbsee, faisal_d ...:( its not running
[11:55] <faisal_d> chmod isn't running???
[11:55] <Hobbsee> anir: which isnt running?
[11:55] <anir> sudo chmod 644 /home/anir/.dmrc has no error message
[11:55] <ossiem> ok ive had enough, it just locked up again
[11:55] <vpalle> hmm
[11:55] <ossiem> think certian webpages are crashing my comp
[11:56] <faisal_d> anir: ok, that's good... but he application doesn't run you mean???
[11:56] <ossiem> is there a way to install withou loosing all the stuff in my home direcotries??
[11:56] <ompaul> Hobbsee, a fair point and well made :(     [ :-) ]
[11:56] <anir> faisal_d, yes.. firefox is not running
[11:56] <faisal_d> what does it saynow?
[11:56] <anir> (firefox-bin:7718): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[11:56] <anir> (firefox-bin:7718): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[11:56] <anir> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXt.so [libXt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[11:56] <anir> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXext.so [libXext.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[11:56] <anir> Segmentation fault
[11:56] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[11:56] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:57] <liable> anir: you will get +b if you keep doing that..
[11:57] <ossiem> is there a way to install withou loosing all the stuff in my home direcotries??
[11:57] <ossiem> reinstall
[11:57] <anir> liable, ???
[11:57] <Hobbsee> ossiem: is /home on a separate partition?
[11:58] <ossiem> no
[11:58] <wrussian> g'night
[11:58] <Hobbsee> ossiem: back it up onto cd then, see ubuntuforums.org - there's a howto for it
[11:58] <liable> ossiem: not unless you have /home on a seperate partion, or have backups..
[11:58] <Hobbsee> anir: +b = banned, or gagged (dont remember which)
[11:58] <ossiem> ok , will reinstall AGAIN
[11:58] <liable> anir: pasting in channel..
[11:58] <ossiem> this is not all its cracked up to be
[11:58] <jenda> ossiem  next time install with /home separate. For now I recommend creating /home portition, backing up the data there, and then istalling on the rest of the disk.
[11:58] <anir> liable, Hobbsee i am sorry
[11:58] <cyphase> when a plugin that was a separate package from its "parent" program is merged with that parent program, shouldn't the old plugin package be removed form the repo's?
[11:59] <cyphase> repos*
[11:59] <jenda> ossiem: That is 1
[11:59] <jenda> damn
[11:59] <faisal_d> anir: no problem.. you didn't know
[11:59] <mrkoje> ossiem,  im not quite sure but you could make a "logical" partition within your primary.. then move your /home to that logical then when you reinstall just use the partition table that is already created..
[11:59] <anir> i think i wil install XP and Ubuntu again.. But the downloads to update the packages takes so long.. thats the worst thing
[12:00] <ossiem> think ill just backup AGAIN
[12:00] <ossiem> if this install of ubuntu doesnt go well, its back to suse i think
[12:00] <faisal_d> anir: there is a missing shraed library on your system.. that is why it keeps on bombing
[12:00] <ossiem> cheers bbiab
[12:00] <jenda> ossiem: 1) resize current partition 2) create new partition 3) copy data 4) blank original partition 5) install with the blank as / and the partition you made as /home
[12:00] <ossiem> how do i make the new pariotn??
[12:00] <ompaul> anir, have you a second hard drive?
[12:00] <anir> faisal_d, so whats the solution?
[12:00] <anir> ompaul, nope
[12:01] <mrkoje> ossiem,  man fdisk
[12:01] <glick> excuse me im using gtkpod
[12:01] <glick> how do i upload music to the ipod with it?
[12:01] <bolrod> drag something to your ipod
[12:01] <bolrod> then sync.
[12:01] <faisal_d> anir: the strange thing is that an install should get all the dependencies... strange that when you reinstalled FF the problem persisted
[12:01] <jenda> ossiem: I recommend gparted
[12:02] <ossiem> it says unable to mount dev
[12:02] <ossiem> with gparted
[12:02] <liable> with caution..
[12:02] <anir> faisal_d, yup.. because previously when i had problem with any package.. if i uninstall and reinstall.. the problem runs away.. but this time dont know what is happenning
[12:02] <glick> bolrod, when i sync i get Path not found: '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F03
[12:03] <ossiem> ill just copy to other drive and startagain
[12:03] <glick> then the same with F04
[12:03] <glick> etc, etc
[12:03] <ossiem> cheers bbl
[12:03] <TimMagic> anyone able to give wifi help?
[12:03] <liable> be more specific?
[12:03] <mrkoje> TimMagic,  have you read the wifi wiki?
[12:03] <bolrod> glick: try creating the paths
[12:03] <glick> i think i know whats wrong
[12:03] <bolrod> or
[12:03] <Sh4d0x> can someone help out, i got an acerhk package (needed to activate my wifi by button) but i don't know how to install it
[12:03] <bolrod> first try to mount the ipod
[12:03] <bolrod> ;)
[12:03] <TimMagic> yeah - it a) confused me and b) didnt help
[12:03] <glick> my ipods name is Bunch's ipo
[12:03] <glick> and i guess it tries to make that path
[12:04] <bolrod> erh
[12:04] <faisal_d> anir: try going to synaptic, search for libxt and install it... that might work
[12:04] <bolrod> name of the ipod doesnt matter
[12:04] <mrkoje> TimMagic,  I can try... I will let you know if I cant... tell us your problem
[12:04] <bolrod> but you have to have the ipod mounted on /media/ipod/
[12:04] <glick> bolrod, yeah your right
[12:04] <glick> so whats the problem you think?>
[12:04] <bolrod> do you have the ipod mounted?
[12:04] <liable> you can mount it wherever you want..
[12:04] <bolrod> yes
[12:04] <glick> bolrod, yes i do
[12:04] <bolrod> where did you mount it
[12:05] <TimMagic> i have inserted my pcmcia wifi card and it shows power lights
[12:05] <glick> /media/ipod
[12:05] <TimMagic> i ran the instructions as per the wiki
[12:05] <TimMagic> but it wont find my network
[12:05] <bolrod> can you cd into /media/ipod/
[12:05] <bolrod> ?
[12:05] <ompaul> glick, do this in a terminal >> df -h << and put the output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl for bolrod
[12:05] <glick> yes i can bolrod
[12:05] <anir> faisal_d, libxt6 is installed
[12:05] <bolrod> and what do you see inthere?
[12:05] <bolrod> should be about 4 directories.. right?
[12:05] <mrkoje> What kind of card is it? And is there a linux driver for it? If not you might have to use a NDISWRAPPER
[12:06] <glick> bolrod, Calenders Contacts, iPod_Control and Notes
[12:06] <faisal_d> anir: i'm terribly sorry, but i have no idea what's happening... sorry but i can't help you any further
[12:06] <bolrod> hmm
[12:06] <mrkoje> TimMagic,  see above sorry
[12:06] <bolrod> well...
[12:06] <bolrod> try creating the directories it asks for yourself
[12:06] <anir> faisal_d, i am sorry for bugging u for so long... thank you very much
[12:06] <bolrod> I thought it was someting from 0 to 19
[12:06] <anir> :)
[12:06] <faisal_d> anir: no problem... just don't lose faith in linux.. is all :)
[12:07] <bolrod> or you could try uploading one song with windows
[12:07] <TimMagic> its a binatone wl1000 - no linux drivers and i used ndiswrapper as the wifi wiki suggested#
[12:07] <bolrod> then it should have all the directories
[12:07] <anir> faisal_d, the more i fall the more i fight.. i will learn linux
[12:07] <faisal_d> anir: that's the spirit
[12:07] <glick> bolrod, now its looking for F12-F20
[12:07] <bolrod> indeed
[12:08] <bolrod> well
[12:08] <glick> i cant create a milion folders
[12:08] <bolrod> create more ;)
[12:08] <bolrod> its not going to be a million directories
[12:08] <bolrod> I could check how many there are.. but I'm lazy
[12:08] <bolrod> hehe
[12:08] <glick> what the hell why cant gtkpod do it?
[12:08] <bolrod> I dont know
[12:08] <bolrod> ask the dev people from gtkpod
[12:10] <MrMaDSeN> how do I chmod a dir s everyone can read/write in it?
[12:11] <MrMaDSeN> so... even
[12:11] <pc22>  chag sameach
[12:12] <Sh4d0x> can someone please help me? i'm close to  get my wifi working but i dunno know how to install this package :(
[12:12] <arnold> hi how do get 3d support? card is Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[12:12] <nasimuto> how can i change the value of 'sensible-browser' ?
[12:13] <arnold> i cant find it in xorg.conf
[12:13] <arnold> anubody
[12:13] <Hobbsee> arnold: that card should already have 3d, i think...
[12:13] <Hobbsee> well, seems that i have 3D on here, for games, with the same card/chipset
[12:14] <glick> cool it works
[12:14] <liable> nasimuto: more info
[12:14] <glick> i have to creat the folders by hand which is shitty
[12:14] <glick> but oh well
[12:14] <glick> i guess you cant have your cake and eat it too
[12:14] <Toma-> if anyones using amsn with wish8.5, ive got the new amsn-0.95 in a deb compiled for breezy for you.
[12:15] <nasimuto> liable: i want that sensible-browser would use my local firefox 1.5 install instead of the systemwide firefox 1.0.7
[12:15] <arnold> i try to pla tribal trouble and get the error : could not create direct glx context
[12:16] <concept10> nasimuto, goto preffered applications
[12:17] <ompaul> nasimuto, Menu: system - preferences - preferred applications
[12:17] <arnold> u got any tips?
[12:17] <nasimuto> i have xfce :/
[12:18] <liable> nasimuto: man update-alternatives?
[12:18] <cheetahcat> hey folks :)
[12:18] <ompaul> nasimuto, if you have gnome installed gnome-default-applications-properties
[12:19] <cheetahcat> i got a stupid question, but is it possible to establish a video chat with AIM/iChat users somehow?
[12:19] <arnold> any body??
[12:22] <eZtaR> Is there a apt-get for ati drivers?
[12:23] <DaMstr_Architec> hi all
[12:23] <eZtaR> Hey DaMstr_Architec
[12:24] <DaMstr_Architec> may I ask something about my X-server?
[12:24] <mrkoje> eZtaR,  there is
[12:24] <eZtaR> Don't ask to ask.. Just ask :)
[12:24] <lucasvo> DaMstr_Architec: just ask
[12:24] <DaMstr_Architec> lol, ok
[12:24] <eZtaR> mrkoje, what is it?
[12:24] <mrkoje> !ati
[12:24] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:25] <mrkoje> eZtaR,  I can't remember the name :)  its somthing like glf4x ...
[12:25] <mrkoje> I think...
[12:25] <DaMstr_Architec> well I installed the legacy nvidia drivers, and edited xorg.conf (in driver: "nv" -> to "nvidia") but now it returns an error that it cant load the X-server cause it isnt configured properly
[12:25] <eZtaR> Thanks mrkoje  :D
[12:25] <DaMstr_Architec> I already reconfigured the xserver, with no result
[12:26] <Wilf> anyone successful got gdesklets to work?
[12:26] <mrkoje> eZtaR, fglrx
[12:26] <mrkoje> eZtaR,  I think thats what it is called... but beware I guess some people had problems with it.
[12:27] <Toma-> cheetahcat: its possible i think...
[12:27] <eZtaR> mrkoje, Thanks i found it in the wikilink ubotu gave meh :p
[12:27] <DaMstr_Architec> does someone know how to enable the x-server? :)
[12:27] <nasimuto> ! command aliases
[12:27] <ubotu> nasimuto: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:28] <Sh4d0x> I need this location, but i can't find it Device Drivers -> Networking Support -> IrDA subsystem support -> Infrared-port device drivers -> NSC PC87108/PC87338
[12:28] <Sh4d0x> there is no folder called device drivers :s
[12:29] <mrkoje> !alias
[12:29] <ubotu> Create your own shorter timesaving console commands. http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_03_05.html
[12:29] <mrkoje> nasimuto,  there ya go :)
[12:31] <DaMstr_Architec> g2g
[12:31] <DaMstr_Architec> cya
[12:34] <Sh4d0x> how do i install a .tar.gz package?
[12:34] <faisal_d> tar -xzf tarball
[12:35] <Sh4d0x> faisal_d huh? :s
[12:36] <Sh4d0x> ow guys you are so a great help, remind me nxt time i give some help advice :/
[12:37] <noveulMan> hi
[12:40] <Forza> I have a (Denver MP-202) mp3 player that dosent seems to wanna be accessed through Ubuntu. Anyone having a clue how to get it work?
[12:41] <Ubunti_Ki> I dont have gpc, how do i get it?
[12:41] <rob1> Forza, try: mkdir /media/usb && sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/usb
[12:42] <Ubunti_Ki> dabaR__,  it did not work yesterday with gpc
[12:43] <Forza> rob1, Wow it works, thx!
[12:44] <rob1> Forza, np
[12:44] <rob1> Forza, remember to unmount it before you pull it out
[12:44] <Forza> roger
[12:44] <rob1> Forza, umount /media/usb
[12:44] <Ubunti_Ki> Forza, do you know how to get gpc compilator?
[12:44] <rob1> you'll have to use sudo too
[12:45] <rob1> Ubunti_Ki, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:45] <Forza> rob1, will do, thx again!
[12:45] <Ubunti_Ki> rob1,  yepp I tried that.....
[12:45] <rob1> Ubunti_Ki, well, as long as apt-get installed it, you have gcc
[12:45] <Ubunti_Ki> maybe something gone wrong......how do I uninstall it robl?
[12:46] <rob1> Ubunti_Ki, dont, how are you trying to compile?
[12:46] <sander_> Hi , does anybody know how to install themes ?
[12:47] <rob1> Ubunti_Ki, check out man gcc
[12:47] <rob1> sander_, the theme manager has an install button
[12:47] <Inf3ctedFx> sander_:  themes where?
[12:48] <shekhar> hello can someone help me turn on ssh login on my machine? how do i do it?
[12:49] <sander_> But it says it is't a supported fioleformat
[12:49] <Ng> shekhar: install openssh-server
[12:49] <shekhar> Ng:  ah yes
[12:49] <shekhar> thanks
[12:49] <sander_> I tried to install a themefrom art.gnome.org (hates laptop keyboard :3 )
[12:49] <Ubunti_Ki> robl, I have two laptops here, and in the other GPC works nice, but in this somethings very strange......maybe something went wrong when I tryed build-essential
[12:50] <Inf3ctedFx> sander_: check www.gnome-look.org
[12:50] <shekhar> Ng:  if i am rcp-ing some files from a mac osx machine to ubuntu machine on my local net and it says connected refused, that means i need openssh-server?
[12:50] <damg> what is with mplayer packages/mozilla-mplayer? Aren't they in multiverse anymore?
[12:51] <jenda> I have a program "running" on tty1 and it's a graphical program, so it threw an "out of range" error. Is there a way I can kill it? (Ctrl-C don't work)
[12:51] <Ng> shekhar: rcp pre-dates ssh, you'd want scp to talk to an ssh server
[12:51] <shekhar> Ng:  i meant scp
[12:51] <Inf3ctedFx> damg:  those r on the multiverse
[12:51] <Ng> shekhar: aha, well then yes either you don't have the ssh server installed (which is the default setting) or you have a firewall in the way
[12:51] <sander_> ok i'll try thx
[12:52] <shekhar> Ng:  how do i check if port 22 is open or closed?
[12:52] <Ubunti_Ki> I just tryed to type "sudo aptitude install gpc" but theres no package named gpc
[12:52] <damg> Inf3ctedFx, apt-get install mplayer. Selecting mplayer-386. No installation candidate found. System: 386
[12:52] <Inf3ctedFx> sander_:  if u want to install a theme just go to System/Preferences/themes
[12:52] <Ng> jenda: you could do something like "ps auwx | grep foo" (where foo is the program name) and the first column in the result is it's process id, which you can end with "sudo kill idnumber" or if it still refuses to die, "sudo kill -9 idnumber" (but be careful what you kill!)
[12:52] <paal> ubotu, tell me about deb
[12:53] <Inf3ctedFx> damg:  r u multiverse on?
[12:53] <damg> Inf3ctedFx, of course
[12:53] <burning_bronx> hey Inf3ctedFx greetings
[12:53] <Ng> shekhar: "netstat --tcp -l | grep ssh" in a terminal - if that shows nothing then there's no sshd running
[12:53] <Inf3ctedFx> hey hey burning_bronx
[12:53] <Ubunti_Ki> If build-essential wont get me gpc compilator then what will?
[12:53] <Inf3ctedFx> do u know burning_bronx  I have both monitors working now?
[12:53] <burning_bronx> >.>
[12:53] <burning_bronx> so?
[12:54] <Inf3ctedFx> it was the most stupid thing in the world xD
[12:54] <damg> Inf3ctedFx, main restricted universe multiverse
[12:54] <Ng> Ubunti_Ki: sudo apt-get install gpc    probably
[12:54] <vincent_> someone can help me in compiling vlc ?
[12:54] <Inf3ctedFx> damg:  let me give u one u can add
[12:54] <vincent_> i get an error when i "make" :
[12:54] <Ng> vincent_: are you sure you want to compile it? it's available in the repositories :)
[12:54] <Inf3ctedFx> here damg --> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[12:54] <vincent_> /usr/bin/ld: cant find -lmp3lame
[12:54] <vincent_> collect2
[12:55] <vincent_> yes Inf3ctedFx but i need --enable-livedotcom
[12:55] <damg> adding ...
[12:55] <vincent_> and its not in repository
[12:55] <Ng> vincent_: by the looks of it you need to install the lame development package
[12:55] <Inf3ctedFx> ..??
[12:55] <Inf3ctedFx> ok vincent_  let me give u a website
[12:55] <vincent_> ok
[12:55] <shekhar> Ng:  thanks... i had firestarter running and turned it off
[12:55] <Ng> vincent_: which would be liblame-dev
[12:55] <Ng> shekhar: :)
[12:56] <Inf3ctedFx> how to add repositories --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:56] <jenda> Ng thanks. It killed the process, but the screen is still out of range on tty1 :(
[12:56] <vincent_> wo Inf3ctedFx , first i will need to know how to make a .deb !
[12:56] <Ubunti_Ki> Ng it did not find any package gpc?
[12:56] <Ubunti_Ki> Ng, it must be a different name
[12:56] <Inf3ctedFx> no vincent_  look this website --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:56] <vincent_> ok
[12:57] <damg> Inf3ctedFx, thanks. i think de.archive.ubuntu.com mirrors were out of sync ...
[12:57] <Ng> Ubunti_Ki: it's in the universe repository, you probably need to enable that - the package is defintiely called gpc
[12:57] <sander_> I only get a bunch of png and some stupid docs, when i try to click install theme it keeps saying: invalid fileformat
[12:57] <Ng> Ubunti_Ki: see the AddingRepositoriesHowto link Inf3ctedFx pasted a few lines ago
[12:57] <Ubunti_Ki> Ng I have don that
[12:57] <Inf3ctedFx> mm damg
[12:57] <vincent_> ok Inf3ctedFx i see, i know how to add lines to sources.list but i dont think there's a vlc version with --enable-livedotcom compiled ?!
[12:57] <Ubunti_Ki> done that too Ng
[12:58] <fiesbies> hi, i got a wifi card that needs to be activated by software, now i got a package but i can't install it, can someone help further?
[12:58] <Ng> Ubunti_Ki: well I'm quite sure the package is in universe, so perhaps you need to reload your package lists - http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/gpc
[12:59] <manny> quick question, if u were to download a popular software package via torrents, a popular torrent wat are the chances of u getting caught ?
[12:59] <sander_> Pre-compiled art.gnome.org themes don't work ! :$ *kicks laptop keyboard
[01:00] <Inf3ctedFx> manny:  getting caught? well use proxy xD
[01:00] <manny> whilst downloading it ? k which clients allow this ?
[01:00] <Inf3ctedFx> Azureus
[01:00] <Inf3ctedFx> Bit Tornado.
[01:01] <Ng> great until the proxy logs get subpoenad ;)
[01:01] <manny> yas, unless u find a completely anyomous proxy ?
[01:02] <manny> would this be a correct assumption
[01:02] <Kindred> hey, I wanted to try xmms so did an apt-get and got "The following NEW packages will be installed:  libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common xmms" so anyway after installing all that I wanted to remove it so did apt-get remove --purge xmms and it only wanted to remove xmms.  I thought the point was that it would remove the stuff that isn't needed for anything else, I guess not huh?
[01:02] <deFrysk> Rufus
[01:02] <Inf3ctedFx> google it manny
[01:02] <Inf3ctedFx> proxy list
[01:02] <manny> yer i have proxy's waiting
[01:02] <sander_> please, I need some help installing themes, my gnome desktop interface looks dull and is annoying and irritating on a laptop
[01:02] <Inf3ctedFx> sander_:  I can help u
[01:02] <manny> im just tossing up whether or not i should proxy myself thats all
[01:02] <Inf3ctedFx> but u need to download the theme first
[01:02] <sander_> yay :D you are my here
[01:03] <sander_> what kind of theme, I downloaded several
[01:03] <Inf3ctedFx> did u download the theme already?
[01:03] <sander_> yup
[01:03] <Inf3ctedFx> ok do not unpacked
[01:03] <sander_> ok
[01:03] <Inf3ctedFx> go in ur gnome to System/Preference/themes
[01:03] <sander_> ooh I think I will need to download one again
[01:03] <Ng> Kindred: it will only remove xmms and things that depend on it, not things it depends on. You can use a tool called deborphan to show you which libraries are installed that have nothing using them
[01:04] <Ng> Kindred: I would imagine the rationale is that you might have something apt doesn't know about that's using libglic/libgtk and so it errs on the side of caution in not removing them
[01:04] <[nige] > anyone konw a good place to find a tutorial on how to make your own login screens?
[01:04] <Inf3ctedFx> sander_:  let me show u one u can download and I know u will like it
[01:04] <Inf3ctedFx> also came with instructions
[01:04] <sander_> oki
[01:05] <Kindred> Ng, hmm okay thanks, I might have a look at that.  I'm obsessively tidy with this stuff... :|
[01:05] <bradley_> hello everyone
[01:05] <Ng> Kindred: that's no bad thing, it'll stop your system getting crufty :)
[01:05] <bradley_> anyone have any ideas on how to get a logitech quickcam to work in linux?
[01:05] <Ng> Kindred: in a similar situation in the future, find the package that's at the bottom of the dependency chain (so libglib in that case) and remove that, the others above it willg et removed too
[01:06] <sander_> Ooh, I tried installing from a .tar.gz compiled package and it says theme installed succesfully , but I can't see it in the list
[01:06] <Inf3ctedFx> sander_:  go here  and let me know when u r there  -> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=28686
[01:07] <Mabus06> quick, off topic question: what's better, a Radeon X700 or a 9800 XT
[01:08] <Kindred> Ng, ahhh that makes sense, thanks :)
[01:09] <ferrox> how can i change the boot splash image?
[01:09] <kaffeend> hey
[01:09] <Inf3ctedFx> sander_:  r u there yet?
[01:10] <bradley_> i got a logitech webcam for xmas and was wondering if it will work with ubuntu or if i should return it...
[01:10] <kaffeend> um, when I install games using synaptic, where do they install to? I can't find them anywhere :s
[01:10] <faisal_d> kaffeend... it shoudl be somewhre in /usr
[01:11] <faisal_d> probable /usr/games or /usr/local/games
[01:11] <kaffeend> thanks faisal_d :)
[01:11] <Ng> bradley_: do you know which model it is exactly?
[01:11] <sander_> It sais fileformat invalid
[01:12] <sander_> I tried glssy from http://art.gnome.org
[01:12] <sander_> that one worked
[01:12] <Inf3ctedFx> sander_:
[01:12] <Inf3ctedFx> do u want me to help u or not?
[01:12] <sander_> yup
[01:12] <Inf3ctedFx> follow my instruccions,,..
[01:12] <Inf3ctedFx> then later after u learn how to install one... u can install whatever u want
[01:12] <sander_> but the tar.gz can't be opened by the standard theme installer
[01:13] <Inf3ctedFx> dude FOLLOW my instructions
[01:13] <Inf3ctedFx> ok?
[01:13] <Inf3ctedFx> go to the website i gave u
[01:13] <sander_> yes drill instructor tell me what to do :P
[01:13] <Inf3ctedFx> so I can have an idea
[01:13] <sander_> I allready did
[01:13] <Inf3ctedFx> lol
[01:13] <Inf3ctedFx> if u dont follow it u ill not learn how to do it
[01:13] <sander_> Downloaded the (bundle) thing
[01:14] <Inf3ctedFx> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=28686
[01:14] <Aleks> Hi folkz
[01:14] <Inf3ctedFx> u got it already?
[01:14] <sander_> yup
[01:14] <Aleks> any one who know how i set/change my samba password ?
[01:14] <sander_> In a .tar.gz in the personal folder
[01:14] <Inf3ctedFx> ok this is just special one because usually u dont have to do it the way I will show u
[01:14] <Inf3ctedFx> ok unzip the tar file in ur desktop
[01:14] <Inf3ctedFx> it will create another folder
[01:14] <sander_> ooh oki , you are going to show me a alternative way cool ^^
[01:15] <sander_> ok I did that
[01:15] <Inf3ctedFx> well usually u donwload the them the use the theme installer to do it
[01:15] <Inf3ctedFx> but inside this special them has intructions not just fot the themes  also for the splash and the GDM
[01:16] <Aleks> Hello!  any one who know how i set/change my samba password ?
[01:16] <Inf3ctedFx> and also for the xmms
[01:16] <kaffeend_> well, that's odd... just tried running a game and my system totally locked up
[01:16] <[kf] naddar> to mount a ntfs file system how i can do it?
[01:16] <kaffeend_> ctrl + alt + bksp did nothing either
[01:17] <Inf3ctedFx> after u uncompress the tar file u will see an INSTALL txt file  sander_
[01:17] <Inf3ctedFx> read that one
[01:17] <[kf] naddar> anyone?
[01:17] <sander_> oki
[01:17] <kemik> !tell [kf] naddar about ntfs
[01:17] <kaffeend_> lol
[01:18] <kemik> kaffeend:  doom3 locked my comp alot of times
[01:18] <kemik> linux isnt as stable as windows on the desktop :|
[01:18] <Forza> I have a mp3 player that linux says is full when it in fact is empty, anyone know what to do?
[01:18] <kaffeend_> kemik aye, but I'm only trying to run Sear :D
[01:18] <kemik> Forza:  make sure you dont have a .Trash in the root of the mp3player filesystem
[01:18] <Forza> kemik, I have
[01:19] <sander_> yay I installed a wallpaper
[01:19] <kemik> Forza:  and also make sure it's not root-mounted and youre trying to write as a user
[01:19] <kaffeend_> Blender freezes the system too
[01:19] <kemik> Forza:  delete the .Trash folder then
[01:19] <[kf] naddar> :(
[01:19] <kemik> the "trashcan-system" doesnt really work good with these USB devices
[01:19] <Mabus06> speaking of blender... can you make map files for games with it?
[01:19] <Mabus06> Or is there a way to convert .blend files to use as such?
[01:20] <Forza> kemik, i can't delete it
[01:20] <kemik> Forza:  u probably need to be root :/
[01:20] <kaffeend_> Mabus06 yep ;)
[01:20] <kemik> Forza:  what's the err.msg ?
[01:20] <Mabus06> kaffeend_, are you going to enlighten me? :D
[01:20] <kaffeend_> I believe you can get a plugin to convert .blend to .map
[01:20] <kaffeend_> ah, or .scene
[01:21] <Mabus06> and those are used for what games?
[01:21] <Forza> kemik, that the fileending isn't supported
[01:21] <[kf] naddar> exit
[01:21] <kaffeend_> dunno :P
[01:21] <kaffeend_> but you can get it at www.ogre3d.org I believe
[01:21] <Mabus06> ok thanks
[01:21] <kaffeend_> np
[01:22] <kemik> Forza:  try from the CLI
[01:22] <Phazeman> does anybody knows where to find the klamav official .deb for kubuntu ?
[01:22] <kaffeend_> Mabus06 also try #blender :)
[01:22] <kemik> Forza:  or use windows if you gotit ;)
[01:23] <deFrysk> !info clamav
[01:23] <sander_> I installed and saved the window border and control stuf in one compiled theme, can I now delete all the files and other old stuff in the list ?
[01:23] <Forza> kemik, no i dont have win but it seems just to be problems with linux so maybe i should switch back
[01:23] <Inf3ctedFx> sander_:  if u want 2, yes
[01:23] <kemik> Forza:  well... dualboot is always an option
[01:23] <faisal_d> phazeman: why you want kalmav for linux? isn't it supposed to be virus free??
[01:24] <deFrysk> klamav is in the repos
[01:24] <kemik> Forza:  but using the CLI i'm sure you can delete the TRash-folder on your mp3player
[01:24] <Seveas> deFrysk, it isn't
[01:24] <Seveas> clamav is :)
[01:24] <Forza> kemik, whats CLI?
[01:24] <Seveas> !cli
[01:24] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[01:24] <deFrysk> Seveas, yes , yurright
[01:24] <Seveas> deFrysk, of course :p
[01:25] <deFrysk> Phazeman, try avscan (gtk2 frontend for clamav)
[01:25] <deFrysk> gtk2 rules anyway
[01:26] <ubotu> clamav: (antivirus scanner for Unix), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.87-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 188 kB
[01:26] <Wilf> i'm beind a dlink router, should i use a software firewall too?
[01:27] <kaffeend_> Seveas can you kick kaffeend please? :D
[01:27] <kaffeend_> thanks
[01:27] <deFrysk> :D
[01:28] <one> hey
[01:28] <deFrysk> merr kixmas
[01:28] <one> can anyone help me plssss.
[01:28] <deFrysk> y
[01:28] <Seveas> !anyone
[01:28] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:28] <sander_> How do I delete all the old themes, I mean there useless now
[01:28] <Toma-> !war
[01:28] <ubotu> from memory, war is War, Huh, Yeah! What is it good for? "Absolutely nothin" Say it again yeah   <jives>
[01:29] <sander_> I mean the old themes of the osx style bundle , I know have 3 in the lisdt 2 half and one complete
[01:29] <one> no
[01:29] <one> my sound will only work as root along with burning cds
[01:29] <one> is this normal?
[01:29] <Ng> kaffeend_: the old client will still be on the server, just because it's been kicked from this channel doesn't help that
[01:30] <nmsa> hello
[01:30] <deFrysk> kaffeend_, you got nicklocked
[01:30] <kaffeend_> Ng I disconnected
[01:30] <nmsa> wnyone knows a good iptables tutorial ?
[01:30] <nmsa> a*
[01:30] <sander_> Heey I want to open the saved one and it forgets to open the window border thing  .. what the crap ?
[01:31] <one> hey...  is it normal to have to run as root for your/my soundcard to work
[01:31] <Ubunti_Ki> If I get zipped program, then how do I install it in Linux?
[01:31] <nmsa> esle: someone using icewm ?
[01:31] <Seveas> one, no
[01:31] <deFrysk> Ubunti_Ki, unzip it
[01:31] <Aleks> hi, any one here who know where i find the installed programs...? (folder)
[01:31] <Seveas> one, what is the output of the 'id' command?
[01:31] <Toma-> i just packaged a new amsn for breezy :D get it from the amsn website!
[01:31] <Ubunti_Ki> deFrysk, then what?
[01:31] <Mabus06> Aleks, this isn't windows, wherever you installed it
[01:32] <deFrysk> Ubunti_Ki, then what what ?
[01:32] <Aleks> Mabus06, well, where is firefox...?
[01:32] <Mabus06> Aleks, try going to places > search for files
[01:32] <Ubunti_Ki> deFrysk, Then I did that...I have it in my desktop....Its GPC compilator
[01:32] <Aleks> mabus06 :)
[01:32] <Ubunti_Ki> where should be fina to place it deFrysk
[01:32] <deFrysk> GPC compilator ?
[01:33] <deFrysk> whats that ?
[01:33] <Ubunti_Ki> deFrysk, fine.
[01:33] <sander_> Well I edited somthing , If I want to change  I will change the wole thing
[01:33] <Ubunti_Ki> deFrysk, Its a compilator for Pascal programming
[01:33] <Aleks> mabus06, do you know where to put plugin files...?
[01:33] <deFrysk> Ubunti_Ki, dont know about compiling, sorry
[01:34] <one> ping me
[01:34] <one> Seveas,  1000 as my normal user
[01:34] <Inf3ctedFx> sander_:  do u know a good website to get linux wallpapers?
[01:34] <kaffeend_> using Synaptic to install "Games & Amusements" I looked in ./usr/games and only about 20% of the games I installed are there. Where would the other ones be?
[01:34] <sander_> Thx for the help , I reallym appreciate it , I do now know how to change the Icon set too , thanx drill instructor :D
[01:34] <Mabus06> Aleks, aren't they installed from firefox itself?
[01:34] <Ubunti_Ki> deFrysk, maybe so but, I just want to use gpc like when i type in terminal gpc so that it finds to gpc    as     when linux finds any command.
[01:34] <Seveas> one, the complete output please
[01:34] <deFrysk> Ubunti_Ki, yust apt-get install gpc
[01:34] <Inf3ctedFx> haha stop call me drill lol
[01:34] <deFrysk> just
[01:35] <deFrysk> Ubunti_Ki, sudo apt-get install gpc
[01:35] <Seveas> !tell Inf3ctedFx about themes
[01:35] <Aleks> mabus06, no..., i must do it manually
[01:35] <one> one@127:~$ id
[01:35] <one> uid=1000(one) gid=1000(one) groups=1000(one)
[01:35] <deFrysk> then you have it installed
[01:35] <Aleks> mabus06, i installing flash..
[01:35] <Ubunti_Ki> deFrysk, thats where you come in to the picture.....it wont find any GPC package
[01:35] <deFrysk> we have a repo you know ;)
[01:35] <Seveas> one, right, you should be in much more groups
[01:35] <one> repo fryed modems?
[01:35] <Inf3ctedFx> thx Seveas
[01:35] <one> Seveas, i have no idea....
[01:35] <sander_> Use the altavista searchingbot or at http://art.gnome.org/ or www.deviantart.com
[01:35] <Aleks> hmm, how do i get write access to a folder....?
[01:35] <one> i guess i'll just re-add this user
[01:36] <sander_> I am going bye bye , happy christmas everyone
[01:36] <Seveas> one, for GROUP in dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev ldpadmin scanner admin; do sudo adduser one $GROUP; done
[01:36] <Aleks> tanks, sander_ :P
[01:36] <Ubunti_Ki> deFrysk, And then all the people say use build-essential.....but that wont fix gpc for me.
[01:36] <damg>  #
[01:36] <damg> OOPS
[01:36] <damg> ;)
[01:36] <deFrysk> Ubunti_Ki, do apt-chache search pascal and check if you see packages that suits your needs
[01:37] <deFrysk> Ubunti_Ki, and then install those
[01:37] <Ubunti_Ki> sudo apt-cache pascal ? deFrysk
[01:37] <deFrysk> no just apt-cache search pascal
[01:38] <Forza> kemik, i have deleted the .Trash-1000 folder but it still says that the mp3 player is full when it isn't
[01:38] <Aleks> How do i get write access to a folder... ?
[01:38] <surface> u guys use what to read chm file?
[01:38] <Seveas> surface, xchm
[01:38] <hendrix_> where do i shut off gnome from autostarting at system startup?
[01:38] <surface> Seveas: besides that?
[01:38] <hendrix_> or any window manager that
[01:39] <hendrix_> *or any window manager
[01:39] <deFrysk> hendrix_, in gdm
[01:39] <surface> hendrix : /etc/rc2.d
[01:39] <Inf3ctedFx> VLC is better than xmms?
[01:39] <surface> turn S to K
[01:39] <hendrix_> thanks!! :)
[01:39] <deFrysk> Inf3ctedFx, depends on what you want
[01:40] <Mabus06> How do I fix this error
[01:40] <Mabus06> ./lieroai: relocation error: ./lieroai: symbol h_errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[01:40] <Seveas> Mabus06, get a new version of ./lieroai
[01:40] <nmsa> in re to my above Q: anyone knows a good iptables tutorial ? u can joing iptables channel and google for iptables tutorial :) 'thnx
[01:41] <Seveas> bl, don't irc as root
[01:41] <Mabus06> that is the newest one found on their homepage, Seveas, any further suggestions?
[01:41] <Seveas> Mabus06, use something else :)
[01:41] <bl> Seveas: i must. I dont have user yet.
[01:41] <Mabus06> Seveas, what do you mean, something else?
[01:42] <Seveas> Mabus06, another application
[01:42] <Mabus06> Seveas, what is the point in that?
[01:42] <Seveas> bl, then first create a user :)
[01:42] <bl> Seveas: k ... :>
[01:42] <Seveas> Mabus06, that binary needs a way obsolete glibc....
[01:42] <openartist> give it to me
[01:42] <Forza> Anyone that knows why linux says my mp3 player is full when it's empty?
[01:43] <Mabus06> Seveas, okay, but I want to play this game... is there no way to?
[01:43] <openartist> it's tricking you
[01:43] <Seveas> Mabus06, there is, but not easy and definitely not recommended
[01:43] <Seveas> these symbols are versioned for a reason...
[01:43] <Forza> ...and has a solution
[01:43] <l> who #ubuntu
[01:44] <clue> Seveas: is your repository still around?
[01:44] <Seveas> !tell clue about seveas
[01:45] <openartist> might have something to do invisible files
[01:45] <Borb> woah, i'm using ubuntu live cd
[01:45] <openartist> it does that sometimes with osx too
[01:45] <clue> Great. Need that fading gksudo..
[01:45] <Seveas> :)
[01:45] <Borb> but i dont think ubuntu is using my 3d card
[01:45] <openartist> sometimes if i delete files they go into an invisible folder that i can't delete
[01:46] <Seveas> Borb, quite possible
[01:46] <Borb> its a geforce 6600
[01:46] <Borb> but i suppose i should only worry about that if i have a proper install
[01:46] <Borb> which i might have after using the live cd
[01:46] <Seveas> yeah, the live cd does not use the good driver for that one
[01:47] <hendrix_> so if i want to disable gnome from running at startup i can remove the executable flag from gdm in /etc/init.d/gdm ?
[01:47] <hendrix_> is that the _right_ way?
[01:47] <Seveas> no
[01:47] <Borb> for some reason it detects to AGP ports, it calls one of them (different version?)
[01:47] <Seveas> update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[01:47] <hendrix_> Seveas, aaha.. ok kewl!
[01:48] <Seveas> don't worry about that on the live cd :)
[01:48] <Forza> i have deleted the .Trash-1000 folder but it's still not solving the issue
[01:49] <ossie> hi
[01:49] <ossie> im back after a reinstall again
[01:49] <tristan> welcome back....
[01:50] <ossie> can someone please answer me is the source the same for kernel i386 and i686
[01:50] <ossie> as when i do this command sudo apt-get install linux-source libncurses-dev fakeroot kernel-package
[01:50] <ossie> it doesnt say what proccessor its for
[01:50] <vynux> hello
[01:50] <jenda> ossie: well the source of programs is the same, but the source of the kernels differs, of course.
[01:50] <Forza> can't anybody help out?
[01:50] <vynux> how do i mount my windows partition?
[01:50] <hendrix_> is there a minimum system req for running gnome??? i have a 500Mhz cpu with 64Mb of ram.. is that enough??
[01:51] <hendrix_> my gnome always crashes
[01:51] <hendrix_> freezing up the whole system
[01:51] <ossie> that apt-get i just did doesnt specify wether its for i386 or i686
[01:51] <tristan> vynux : by modifying fstab
[01:51] <deFrysk> hendrix_, my advise would be xubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <ossie> it just gets source code for 2.6.12
[01:51] <hendrix_> deFrysk, whats that?
[01:51] <vynux> tristan: where can i find the file fstab?
[01:51] <ossie> how can i do that command and get the i686 version
[01:51] <tRSS> vynux: edit your /etc/fstab to look like this: /dev/hda1       /media/windows     ntfs    ro,auto,user,nls=utf8,umask=0222        0       0
[01:51] <deFrysk> hendrix_, xfce4 desktop environment
[01:52] <tRSS> vynux: where /dev/hda1 is your windows partition
[01:52] <Aleks> any who know how to get write permissions to a folder....?
[01:52] <vynux> trss: thanks i will try :)
[01:52] <ossie> jenda, can u help me with that please ?
[01:52] <tRSS> Aleks: do sudo
[01:52] <deFrysk> hendrix_, xfce4 desktop needs les ram
[01:52] <Aleks> tRSS, and then?
[01:52] <tristan> vynux : what tRSS said is exact. If the file system you use is NTFS if it is fat32 replace ntfs by fat32 or vfat
[01:52] <Aleks> tRSS, just sudo /etc/kk/hh/gg
[01:52] <Inf3ctedFx> hey Seveas  if I want to use the wget how can I change the directory to download it to whereever I want?
[01:52] <jenda> ossie: I can have a look...
[01:53] <ossie> thanx jenda
[01:53] <hendrix_> deFrysk, ok looks pretty nice! sorry for beeing such a pain.. but in order to start using  xfce4 what / where do i do / go?
[01:53] <tRSS> tristan: thanks for correcting that! :)
[01:53] <deFrysk> hendrix_, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <deFrysk> then set gdm session to xfce4
[01:53] <Aleks> tRSS: just sudo? (didn't work)
[01:53] <hendrix_> do i have to remove gnome deFrysk?
[01:54] <deFrysk> hendrix_, nope