[00:00] <terran4000> nexamac: scour your /var/log/kernel and messages for the any "snd_XYZ" problems
[00:00] <terran4000> if you have a similar messages in your logs then we could have just been thrown a bone!
[00:00] <nexamac> >_>
[00:01] <terran4000> o.O why is my cat eating my chips? WTF! Anywho fincan: sorry, I don't  understand.
[00:01] <fincan> terran4000: after booting livecd or installed ubuntu on the other hdd, I must shutdown pc because in raid boot screen one of the raid membered hdd seems as offline till shutdown
[00:01] <terran4000> fincan: what raid boot screen?
[00:02] <fincan> terran4000: next screen after bios's 1
[00:03] <terran4000> ah
[00:04] <terran4000> fincan: ok, so ... if you boot into ubuntu (live cd or one installed on another hd) and once you reboot the HD will not show up in the raid thingy on boot correct?
[00:04]  * terran4000 hopes what he just said made sense
[00:05] <fincan> terran4000: yeap :)
[00:05] <terran4000> ok, that's just plain weird.
[00:05] <terran4000> The fact that I made sense that is.
[00:06] <terran4000> ok ok ...
[00:06] <terran4000> So
[00:07] <terran4000> if you have everything setup fine, and the drive shows up in the raid thingy at boot ... but then you boot to a live cd, do nothing in there and just reboot, the drive won't show up anymore.
[00:07] <fincan> terran4000: there was another odd thing, I had not had any problem with 7.10 beta or alpha :)
[00:07] <terran4000> fincan: Do you have a dedicated raid card or are you using the 'onboard' raid controller that is part of the motherboard?
[00:07] <fincan> onboard 1, ich8 intel
[00:08] <terran4000> ok,
[00:08] <fincan> terran4000: and still no problem with 6.10 :)
[00:08] <terran4000> one thing I can say from experience ... don't use it and completely ignore any 'raid' stuff the motherboard gives ya
[00:08] <fincan> terran4000: but I wanna use new 1s :)
[00:09] <terran4000> I know, I understand.
[00:09] <terran4000> I'm guessing you have some important info on that raid right?
[00:09] <mark__> which server is the easiest to configure for sharing to windows?
[00:09] <fincan> terran4000: my windows setup and all archives on raid :)
[00:09] <mark__> easiest by newbie standards that is
[00:10] <terran4000> mark__: you mean which software? or which version of linux?
[00:10] <terran4000> fincan: eh .. bleh.
[00:10] <mark__> which software
[00:10] <terran4000> mark__: samba probably
[00:11] <fincan> terran4000: yeap I m the luckest man in the linux world :)
[00:11] <terran4000> fincan: Well, you're luck is about to change ;-)
[00:11] <nexamac> terran4000: Search string 'snd_xyz' not found!
[00:11] <mark__> thanks
[00:11]  * terran4000 shakes fist at nexamac
[00:12] <fincan> terran4000: anyway, still I ve a hope XD
[00:12] <fincan> terran4000: thx
[00:12] <terran4000> nexamac: I didn't mean "snd_xyz" literally.
[00:12] <nexamac> :>
[00:12] <terran4000> fincan: dmraid is made to work with hardware raid and stuff
[00:12] <terran4000> motherboards these days don't do that
[00:12] <terran4000> even though they claim so
[00:13] <terran4000> Plus, they're all made for Windows, thus linux can only play catchup
[00:13] <biovore> the raid is all done in software really..
[00:13] <terran4000> yeah
[00:13] <terran4000> exactly
[00:13] <mark__> do i have to restart to run samba?
[00:13] <ubuntu> amarok is not working, forgot the workaround
[00:13] <mark__> its installed but i can't find it
[00:13] <terran4000> With the use of the hardware raid thingy from your motherboard .... linux has trouble with that
[00:13] <fincan> but this s some odd, while I was using 6.10 why it doesnt work anymore :)
[00:13] <biovore> to get one thats all hardware your looking at $400 bucks US to start..
[00:14] <nexamac> for the love of..
[00:14] <terran4000> You're best bet would be to not run it that way :-(
[00:14] <tekstacy> How do I unlock a locked folder?
[00:14] <biovore> hardware raid works great on linux :-)
[00:14] <terran4000> fincan: sorry it's not exactly great news but it's the best I can give. Maybe someone else can do better. My apologies for not helping more.
[00:15] <fincan> terran4000:thx anyway m8, as I said I ve a little hope only :)
[00:15] <terran4000> heh, cheers fincan.
[00:15] <mark__> sudo samba doesn't work either
[00:15] <terran4000> tekstacy: what do you mean locked?
[00:15] <raton> #fr-kubuntu
[00:15] <raton> !fr raton
[00:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr raton - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:15] <terran4000> mark__: you don't have to restart to run samba
[00:15] <biovore> http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html <-- riad controller information
[00:15] <NexaMac> !fr | raton
[00:15] <ubotu> raton: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[00:16] <raton> thanks ^^
[00:16] <Schuenemann> anyone know how can I force a specific font DPI not listed in kcontrol?
[00:16] <tekstacy> The icon shows a lock over it, properties says it is locked and if I try to use cd, I get told access denied
[00:16] <fincan> biovore:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/110245
[00:16] <tekstacy> It's a folder some game installer made
[00:16] <Nexano> tekstacy: sudo if terminal, hit the admin button in the window if GUI
[00:16] <mark__> how do i access it then?
[00:17] <terran4000> tekstacy: chmod 777 FOLDERNAME
[00:17] <tekstacy> Admin button?
[00:17] <Nexano> :<
[00:17] <Nexano> just sudo su from the command line :>
[00:17] <terran4000> !dpi
[00:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:17] <terran4000> >_>
[00:18] <tekstacy> sudo chmod 777 /opt/PlaneSHift
[00:18] <tekstacy> grrr, sorry...
[00:18] <terran4000> Schuenemann: sorry, wish I could help but that's out of my league.
[00:19] <terran4000> NexaMac: search your log files for something pertaining to: snd_hda_intel
[00:19] <biovore> fincan: no clue.. I don't use software raid anymore these days.. Moved up to all hardware solutions..
[00:20] <fincan> biovore: maybe hardware 1s can be ok but they r some expansive for home users like me XD
[00:20] <Schuenemann> terran4000, http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/wrong3.jpg
[00:21] <genii> Schuenemann: You may find this page useful for your dpi isue: http://scanline.ca/dpi/
[00:21] <terran4000> Schuenemann: don't worry, I've actually done worse ;-)
[00:21] <Schuenemann> genii, someone told me he solved it forcing dpi to 96, but I only have 120 option
[00:21] <biovore> fincan: yup.. I ran it on dapper here as well.. all software raid implementation.. Didn't have any problems.. I have tried to mess with it on feisty or gusty
[00:22] <terran4000> NexaMac: Hmmm, their proposed solution might work. Worth a try. No harm in it.
[00:23] <Schuenemann> genii, resolution:    96x100 dots per inch <-- shouldn't it be a square?
[00:23] <fincan> biovore: I m using 6.10 without any problem, but newer 1 ll be nice :)
[00:23] <biovore> fincan: yeah.. 6.06 is the LTS so they worry about minor details like that..
[00:24] <fincan> biovore: thx u too for answers
[00:24] <biovore> fincan: might have to wait for the next LTS before DM-Raid works again..
[00:24] <ibilic> what's the command for updating all packages?
[00:24] <fincan> biovore: I m waiting XD already XD
[00:24] <NexaMac> terran4000: failed at compiling
[00:24] <biovore> sudo apt-get update
[00:24] <biovore> sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:25] <vzduch> in that order
[00:25] <terran4000> NexaMac: which part and what was the error?
[00:25] <genii> Schuenemann: No, if you have for instance 10x10 the aspect ratio of your monitor makes it not look like a square. Think of sqare 15" monitor which is set for ratios like 1024x768 or such
[00:26] <Schuenemann> genii, yeh, you're right...
[00:26] <NexaMac> terran4000: ./configure
[00:27] <terran4000> NexaMac: ok ... what was the error?
[00:27] <Nexano> getting to it :P
[00:27] <terran4000> My guess is a missing library ^_^
[00:27] <NexaMac> smartass ;o
[00:27] <NexaMac> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[00:27] <NexaMac> See `config.log' for more details.
[00:27] <terran4000> o.O
[00:27] <terran4000> what ... the ...
[00:28] <terran4000> NexaMac: You know, after all of this you're gonna owe me a beer.
[00:28] <Nexano> i never let a man drink one beer
[00:28] <Nexano> its either many or none
[00:28] <Nexano> so bring your wallet :<
[00:28] <genii> Schuenemann: 100x75 would be a square incidentally
[00:29] <terran4000> NexaMac: apt-get install g++ cpp
[00:29] <jjesse> question: i enable sharing via samba on my xp vm when i try to connect to that share from windows, i am asked for a username and password, the username and password of the user i'm logged doesn't work, any ideas?
[00:29] <Schuenemann> genii, I see...
[00:29] <NickPresta> NexaMac, do you have the build-essential package?
[00:29] <NexaMac> NickPresta: think so
[00:29] <NexaMac> :p
[00:30]  * NexaMac is still learning >_>
[00:30] <jjesse> i have samba installed
[00:30] <NexaMac> terran4000: ./configure ran like a baby now :D
[00:30] <terran4000> woohoo!
[00:30] <Nexano> <3
[00:31] <terran4000> Sorry, don't swing that way anymore.
[00:31] <Nexano> *snivel*
[00:31] <ader10> will I lose any functionality in kde if I use gdm? how about gnome with kdm?
[00:31] <vzduch> !b-e | NexaMac
[00:31] <terran4000> heh, well, now make and make install like it said. and let's see what crops up
[00:32] <ubotu> NexaMac: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[00:32] <jjesse> !samba
[00:32] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[00:32] <vzduch> ader10: KDM/GDM is only for graphical login, has nothing to do w/ other functionality
[00:33] <ader10> vzduch: that's not what a number of other people have said but thank you :) I will choose gdm for now.
[00:34] <genii> vzduch: I have noticed sometimes kde using gdm has weirdnesses with screensaver size
[00:34] <vzduch> genii: screensavers are about the last thing I look at, as I usually deactivate them anyway :>
[00:34] <Nexano> hmm
[00:35] <ader10> genii: do you notice any other loss of functionality
[00:35] <NexaMac> configure: error: this packages requires a curses library <--- terran4000 :<
[00:35] <vzduch> NexaMac: sudo apt-get install ncurses-devel
[00:36] <Nexano> ah
[00:36] <Nexano> cheers
[00:36] <terran4000> NexaMac: what he said.
[00:36] <genii> ader10: Not really
[00:36] <Nexano> ARGH
[00:36] <Nexano> also
[00:36] <Nexano> couldnt find package
[00:36] <vzduch> try ncurses-dev
[00:37] <vzduch> the naming is different in different distros, and I am not on *buntu
[00:37] <genii> libncurses5-dev
[00:38] <genii> !info libncurses5-dev
[00:38] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.6+20070716-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1422 kB, installed size 6136 kB
[00:38] <apokruphos> could someone help me with a simple question?
[00:38] <terran4000> Yes
[00:38] <terran4000> That was easy.
[00:39] <Nexano> :D
[00:39] <apokruphos> it is in multiple parts. =p
[00:39] <vzduch> apokruphos: depends on the simple question.. we can't know unless you ask ;)
[00:39] <Nexano> complex > simple
[00:39] <terran4000> Unless you refactor your code, then simple > complex
[00:39] <Nexano> ._.
[00:39] <Nexano> partypooper
[00:40] <apokruphos> I'm running the kubuntu livecd to recover some data from a hdd with a corrupted windows install. Where in the tree is the data on the hard drive?
[00:40] <adz21c> apokruphos: i think /media, but u might need to manually mount the drive
[00:41] <apokruphos> ah, that might be it, media was empty
[00:41] <vzduch> apokruphos: it's nowhere unless you mounted it
[00:41] <vzduch> inkbuntu: are you the pen-and-paper version of Ubuntu? =D
[00:41] <adz21c> lol
[00:41] <Nexano> >_<
[00:42] <Nexano> terran4000: in alsamixer, there a slider named IEC958 which is set to 00 and cant be modified
[00:42] <Nexano> bad sign? :p
[00:42] <inkbuntu> vzduch: I'm men and I'm an entusiast of Ubuntu from Venezuela :D
[00:42] <terran4000> No idea, try unmuting it if possible
[00:42] <Nexano> cant :<
[00:43] <terran4000> Nexano: then ignore it.
[00:43] <terran4000> Nexano: keep compiling ^_^
[00:43] <Nexano> im done :<
[00:44] <terran4000> with all 3?
[00:44] <Nexano> yes
[00:44] <apokruphos> what do I mount then? /hda?
[00:44] <Nexano> failed horribly tbh
[00:44] <vzduch> Nexano: what failed?
[00:44] <Nexano> vzduch: still no sound :)
[00:44] <genii> apokruphos: normally hda1 or sda1, yes
[00:44] <terran4000> you did sudo make
[00:44] <terran4000> and sudo make install
[00:44] <Nexano> yesh
[00:44] <terran4000> for all 3?
[00:44] <vzduch> terran4000: no need to sudo make
[00:45] <vzduch> just make
[00:45] <terran4000> vzduch: yeah yeah, I know. too lazy to change directions
[00:45] <apokruphos> It's not in fstab or mtab
[00:45] <terran4000> Nexano: did you restart the mac?
[00:45] <Nexano> yeah
[00:46] <Nexano> im trying to compile the alsa-lib again as it went a little fast last time, taking ages now
[00:46] <terran4000> bullocks ...
[00:46] <apokruphos> cows?
[00:46] <apokruphos> ;)
[00:47] <nexamac> make[2]: Entering directory `/home/nexamac/Desktop/alsa-utils/alsa-utils-1.0.14/alsaconf/po'
[00:47] <nexamac> mv: cannot stat `t-ja.gmo': No such file or directory
[00:48] <vzduch> good night folks :)
[00:48] <nexamac> nn
[00:48] <terran4000> cheers
[00:48] <genii> vzduch: night
[00:49] <Nexano> >_>
[00:50] <ibilic> ark crashes... what do I do?
[00:50] <terran4000> Nexano: remove the alsa-utils directory
[00:50] <ibilic> I can't open it
[00:50] <terran4000> uncompress it again
[00:50] <ibilic> I want to make an archive
[00:50] <terran4000> and try a fresh ./configure; make; sudo make install
[00:50] <ibilic> but I can't even open ark
[00:51] <apokruphos> When I try 'mount /dev/hda1'  it returns "mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab". What am I missing?
[00:51] <ibilic> terran4000: I am a little new... what do I type in the console?
[00:51] <Dr_willis> ibilic,  i alwyas use the command line tools. or mc.
[00:51] <Nexano> ibilic mkdir
[00:51] <terran4000> ibilic: sorry, I was talking to Nexano
[00:51] <ardchoille> apokruphos: mount point?
[00:52] <Nexano> wanna create the folder lol? type mkdir lol
[00:52] <ardchoille> apokruphos: mount /device /mount_point
[00:52] <Nexano> or mkdir /etc/some/thing/lol
[00:53] <apokruphos> "mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist"
[00:54] <raton> how launch one "apt-setup" plz in the terminal ^^
[00:54] <dbmoodb> hello got a q  re clustering with dvd:rip, what do i set the local directory t obe
[00:55] <apokruphos> nm, I got it
[00:55] <genii> raton: There is no command of that name. What did you want to change about apt?
[00:56] <raton> my sourcelist bug and i cant write another :(
[00:57] <genii> raton: sudo cp /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list /etc/apt/
[00:57] <raton> ty^^
[00:57] <Dr_willis> i think apt-setup is in debian.
[00:57] <genii> raton: That will copy the sample one in there. But you may need to add more, there are only a few in the example
[00:58] <Dr_willis> I always use that easysource web site
[00:58] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[00:58] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[00:58] <raton> thanks allot ! :D
[00:58] <genii> Dr_willis: Actually that one is good too, does localisation etc
[00:59] <dbmoodb> nope ?
[01:00] <Schuenemann> genii, "# The -dpi command line option has highest priority. " Which command uses that?
[01:00] <genii> Schuenemann: when X is called, from commandline normally in the startx way, which just actually goes to binary of X
[01:01] <raton> oula
[01:01] <raton> autre problême:(
[01:01] <raton> raton@raton-desktop:/etc/apt$ apt-get -f update
[01:01] <raton> E: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier verrou /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission non accordée)
[01:01] <Schuenemann> genii, guess I shouldn't mess with that
[01:01] <genii> raton: sudo
[01:01] <raton> oops wrong chanel ^^
[01:02] <raton> oh thanks ^^
[01:03] <genii> Schuenemann: I haven't tinkered with that stuff normally, but I  seem to recall someplace in the /etc/X11 hierarchy is default options to X, which is where you wold put this. It is where the login manager like kdm or gdm draws it's initial info on how to display
[01:04] <supergreg> I tried to follow this, but tried with kubuntu instead, it worked fine until now when I actually try to boot, I see syslinux starting, but it says "could not find kernel image: linux"  - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/  - any quick hints, or another easy tutorial I could try? thanks
[01:07] <genii> Schuenemann: I'm looking into where to set this stuff, if I find something I'll let ya know
[01:09] <Schuenemann> genii, thanks brother
[01:09] <genii> Schuenemann: np
[01:10] <ubuntu__> how can i edit my grub from a live cd
[01:11] <genii> Schuenemann: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[01:12] <ubuntu__> how can i edit my grub from a live cd
[01:13] <nexamac> terran4000!!112
[01:13] <genii> ubuntu__: Do you recall what the partition was that it installed to?
[01:13] <terran4000>  3 4 pick up sticks?
[01:13] <nexamac> :o
[01:13] <nexamac> mv: cannot stat `t-ja.gmo': No such file or directory <--- what i get when "make" utils :<
[01:14] <terran4000> You've tried removing the entire directory
[01:14] <terran4000> and untarring it again, and doing it from a fresh start right?
[01:14] <ubuntu__> genii: i dont know, the problem is i have two instilations, on two diff partitions
[01:14] <ubuntu__> and its booting to the wrong on
[01:14] <ubuntu__> e
[01:15] <Nexano> yes terran4000, got a few errors but i fixed them
[01:15] <Nexano> turns out i didnt actually get headers >_>
[01:15] <Nexano> headers..
[01:15] <Nexano> kek
[01:15] <terran4000> >_>
[01:16] <terran4000> Right, so ... give me a link to the exact file you're trying and I'll give it a getgo
[01:17] <Nexano> sec
[01:17] <Nexano> most forums say i need gettext
[01:17] <Nexano> i got it, then they say i need some other crap
[01:17] <Nexano> msg-instertworandomletters-
[01:17] <genii> ubuntu__: The next time you boot to wrong one, do command: mount    and notice which partition is the /   then try to find the one you wanted by command: sudo fdisk -l   which will list that one and hopefully only 1 other which has type of "linux" or 83 hex, this would be the (hopefully) right one. Then off livecd to mount it in a dir, then edit like nano /mountpoint/grub/menu.lst
[01:18] <Nexano> msgfmt
[01:18] <terran4000> o.O
[01:19] <Nexano> some nab said ja-trans
[01:19] <Nexano> didnt do jack :<
[01:19] <ubuntu__> genii: thats the thing, i have unsolvable problems on the other, so i cant boot to it
[01:19] <ubuntu__> genii: but i know sdb2 is the wrong one and sdb3 is what i need it to boot to
[01:19] <Schuenemann> genii, I changed from 100 to 96 but nothing happened
[01:19] <genii> Schuenemann: :(
[01:20] <Schuenemann> exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 96 -nolisten tcp
[01:20] <genii> ubuntu__: You have /boot on sda1? Or what is there, windows or so?
[01:20] <genii> Schuenemann: Perhaps it is so close to 100 the difference is indistinguishable
[01:20] <ubuntu__> genii: no windows
[01:21] <ubuntu__> genii: its booting to sdb2, i need it to boot to sdb3
[01:21] <Schuenemann> genii, you think I should try a lower value?
[01:21] <nexamac> terran4000: ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/utils/alsa-utils-1.0.14.tar.bz2
[01:22] <genii> ubuntu__: Yes, I understand the sda2 sda3 thing. What we need to know is where the /boot/grub/menu.lst file is, whether on /dev/sd1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3 etc ... if you chose a separate partition for /boot then it may have been the /dev/sda1
[01:22] <genii> Schuenemann: Just back up what you have and tinker is my recommendation
[01:23] <ubuntu__> there is no sd1, sda3, sda1 or anything
[01:23] <Schuenemann> genii, what is tinker?
[01:23] <genii> Schuenemann: To try some other values there than 100 or 96, etc. Perhaps go to 75 and see if any noticeable difference
[01:24] <terran4000> >_>
[01:24] <terran4000> Nexano: compiled without issue
[01:24] <Schuenemann> genii, ok, I'll do that
[01:24] <Nexano> then what am i missing? :>
[01:25] <terran4000> remove the folder and stuff
[01:25] <genii> ubuntu__: So then the menu.lst most likely on /dv/sdb2   so from livecd to do  mount /dev/sdb2 /someplace    then nano /someplace/grub/menu.lst
[01:25] <terran4000> untar to a new dir
[01:25] <ubuntu__> alright
[01:25] <terran4000> then
[01:25] <terran4000> ./configure
[01:26] <terran4000> and when you do "make"
[01:26] <terran4000> stick it up on pastebin
[01:26] <wesley> can you not set Konqueror as default file browser ?
[01:27] <ardchoille> !dolphin
[01:27] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[01:27] <Schuenemann> genii, this has no effect, I changed to 76 and it's EXACLY the same
[01:29] <genii> Schuenemann: And you exited to login then did ctrl-backspace or else restarted entirely the x server? If no change then likely ubuntu is overriding someplace :/
[01:29] <genii> Schuenemann: Does the login screen seem different at all?
[01:29] <genii> (disproportional, etc)
[01:29] <Schuenemann> genii, I went back to login screen
[01:30] <Schuenemann> no, I didn't see any difference
[01:30] <genii> Schuenemann: when at login after logging out o ctrl-backspace to make X reload new values
[01:30] <ubuntu__> genii:  how would i change it to boot to sdb3?
[01:31] <genii> ubuntu__: Look for lines in it that are sdb2 and switch then to sdb3
[01:31] <Nexano> for some reason terran4000 it just compiled fine now
[01:31] <Schuenemann> brb the
[01:31] <terran4000> Nexano: I need a stiff drink.
[01:32] <Nexano> :P
[01:32]  * genii hands terran4000 a cofee with some whiskey in it
[01:32]  * terran4000 sniffs it and passes it onto Nexo.
[01:32]  * Nexano chugs
[01:32] <terran4000> Thanks but I don't do tea and rum
[01:33] <Nexano> :<
[01:33] <Nexano> anyone want a free zen microphoto mp3 player?
[01:33] <Nexano> :>
[01:34] <terran4000> No, but I would like to have your sound working already
[01:34] <Nexano> :p
[01:34] <notv> does gutsy come with a c compiler out of the box?
[01:35] <Nexano> "I`ve probably lost more patients then you`ve treated." - Dr.Zoidberg.
[01:35] <genii> notv: the package build-essential is not installed by default, but easy enough to add
[01:36] <wesley> a free mp3 player?
[01:36] <Nexano> terran4000: no sound >_>
[01:36] <Nexano> im almost ready to give up allready
[01:36] <notv> genii is that alls i needs?
[01:37] <genii> notv: For most compiling, yes
[01:37] <terran4000> Nexano: honestly, I have no clue.
[01:37] <genii> !compile | notv
[01:37] <ubotu> notv: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[01:37] <terran4000> It could be that some kernel module was left out
[01:37] <notv> im using it for a c class
[01:37] <notv> im sure its nothing fancy yet
[01:37] <terran4000> or something was compiled wrong somewhere down the line .....
[01:37] <terran4000> Just for kicks, try the new kubuntu testing live cd
[01:37] <terran4000> and see if you get sound out of that
[01:37] <terran4000> and a older kubuntu live cd
[01:38] <terran4000> see what comes of them
[01:38] <notv> genii will my programs run the same on whatever compiler the teacher uses?
[01:38] <genii> notv: Then the build-essential package should be enough for most programs you would be making/using
[01:38] <genii> notv: Yes, if standard code then the compiler doesn't matter
[01:38] <notv> thanks
[01:39] <genii> notv: np
[01:40] <Schuenemann> genii, ctrl + backspace doesn't seem to do anything
[01:40] <genii> Schuenemann: OK. Then the system is drawing it's defaults from another place and not from there.
[01:41] <Schuenemann> genii, when I change in kcontrol, it works, but I can only choose 120 DPI there.
[01:42] <Schuenemann> I wanted to place 96dpi there
[01:42] <notv> genii are you familiar with a C IDE, and if i dont have one, will i just be coding in a terminal?
[01:42] <genii> notv: For KDE there is KDevelop
[01:43] <genii> notv: Otherwise any text editor is usually sufficient
[01:43] <genii> Schuenemann: I am looking again, have patience :)
[01:44] <nexamac_> playing wii, if ya need me highlight nexano :>
[01:44] <ubuntu__> how can i boot my computer up without it running "/scripts/init-bottom"?
[02:01] <Schuenemann> genii, I have to go... thanks
[02:01] <genii> Schuenemann: http://linux-blog.org/index.php?/archives/227-KDE-and-Xorg,-Fonts-and-DPI.html
[02:02] <genii> Schuenemann: OK, seeya later.Might be some useful info on that site for you btw
[02:02] <Schuenemann> I'll check
[02:05] <bmk789> can any of you recommend software for KDE videoconfrencing?
[02:05] <bmk789> skype works, but id prefer something open source and that can do more fps on video
[02:14] <TheWhiteRook> what kind of luck have people had with installing Beryl on Kubuntu (7.10)?
[02:14] <genii> !konference
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konference - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <genii> hmm
[02:14] <ronnie__> am I right in assuming that the only benefit to "jack" being a server is to record or play some audio software dosen't take up memory on you computer?
[02:14] <Schuenemann> genii, it didn't change anything... omg
[02:15] <Schuenemann> genii, I ran that command before and after changing and it displayed the same DPI
[02:15] <genii> Schuenemann: I'm fresh outta ideas then at this point
[02:15] <ardchoille> !beryl | TheWhiteRook
[02:15] <ubotu> TheWhiteRook: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[02:16] <TheWhiteRook> ok, thanx
[02:22] <nexamac_> TheWhiteRook: compiz works fine tho
[02:23] <TheWhiteRook> yeah, I tried it a bit ago, and then had to do a format and fresh install (though not cuz of compiz), and I had used Beryl in the spring when I was using gnome... and remembered that it worked really well...
[02:27] <Schuenemann> genii, well, thanks
[02:28] <TheWhiteRook> !compiz
[02:28] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:28] <ronnie__> umm ok no in the room that uses midi along with jack?, sometimes I get some kind of pop up saying "jack is being used by another program" sorta warning, can I only use I program with jack at a time?
[02:33] <genii> bmk789: Perhaps check out http://www.vislab.uq.edu.au/research/accessgrid/software/debian/
[02:35] <TheWhiteRook> holy crap, windows really stick to the bottom panel when the wobbly windows effect is enabled in compiz...
[02:37] <Dr_willis> ive had the wiggly windows get 'stuck' wiggling befor.. :) i couldent move/click/do anything other then watch them wiggle.. see them jiggle.
[02:37] <NickPresta> Any idea why when I start fusion-icon as myself, fusion icon refuses to dock but when I start it via kdesu, it docks fine?
[02:38] <TheWhiteRook> no idea
[02:38] <ubuntu_> hi, i see, to be having a problem. i had a problem that i couldnt resolve, so i decided i would make a new partition, put a new install of kubuntu on it then keep the old partition (because it has aboue 100gb of data on it) and i could just use it as my /home directory and have the new partiton for the OS only. so i installed it, and now it wont boot up. it keeps booting up to the old OS (on the old partiton) how can i fix this?
[02:39] <TheWhiteRook> any idea why the window I click on doesn't come to the foreground unless I click on the title bar (with compiz)
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> I am a guy and love wearing push up bras
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> Visit your local men wearing bras message board today!
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> I am a guy and wear a bra as often as I can and out in public all the time
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> Visit your local men wearing bras message board today!
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> Bra wearing is amazing and I am a guy
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> I wore a bra out in public to the mall today under just a t-shirt
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> I love when my bra straps project through the back of my shirt.
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> I am a man who would like to wear a bra. I need no support! Thanks, Ron
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> Check out my bra wearing questions on Yahoo! answers
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> Victoria's Secret employees help fit me for the right bra every time i shop there even though I am a male
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> I am a guy and wear a bra as often as I can and out in public all the time
[02:42] <limac> well
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> My name is Samuel and I LOVE TO WEAR BRAS.
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> Even though I am a guy I ask the Victoria's Secret employees if I can try on bras in the fitting rooms and they always say yes
[02:42] <NickPresta> !ops
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> Check out my bra wearing questions on Yahoo! answers
[02:42] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, jussi01 or ardchoille!
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> My name is Samuel and I LOVE TO WEAR BRAS.
[02:42] <limac> i think we get the point
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> Even though I am a guy I ask the Victoria's Secret employees if I can try on bras in the fitting rooms and they always say yes
[02:42] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> I am a guy and love shopping at Victoria's Secret for bras
[02:43] <Bra_Wearer_Samue> I wore a bra out in public to the mall today under just a t-shirt
[02:43] <NickPresta> Thanks Jucato
[02:43] <NickPresta> and stdin
[02:43] <stdin> chanserv lag :p
[02:43] <NickPresta> heh
[02:43] <Jucato> hmph
[02:43] <Jucato> :P
[02:43] <limac> well
[02:43] <limac> how do u do that?
[02:43] <ronnie__> OMG!!  talk bout unrelated ubuntu spam! haha
[02:43] <LjL> sorry i'm lagged
[02:44] <stdin> heh
[02:44] <Jucato> pfft...
[02:44] <n8k99> that's two nights in a row for that guy
[02:45] <TheWhiteRook> Can't say I've ever had spam like that
[02:46] <ronnie__> so no kin answer my questions, guess no one in here into music (midi programs) no prob maybe it's just the wrong time in here :)
[02:47] <ubuntu_> hi, i see, to be having a problem. i had a problem that i couldnt resolve, so i decided i would make a new partition, put a new install of kubuntu on it then keep the old partition (because it has aboue 100gb of data on it) and i could just use it as my /home directory and have the new partiton for the OS only. so i installed it, and now it wont boot up. it keeps booting up to the old OS (on the old partiton) how can i fix this?
[02:48] <XadVio> whats up peaople
[02:49]  * genii imagines the Victorias Secret employees having a good laugh
[02:51] <genii> ronnie__: What sort of things did you want to do involving midi?
[02:53] <genii> ronnie__: at commandline, apt-cache search midi|more     produces many programs midi-related
[02:53] <biovore> !rosegarden
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rosegarden - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <ronnie__> genii I just was trying to use the sounds I found off the web with my midi keyboard, hmm is "speciman" a good sampler to do this?
[02:58] <genii> ronnie__: Not sure how you'd go about exporting it from the computer
[02:59] <jimmy51> hello, should SHIFT+Backspace kill KDE?
[03:00] <genii> jimmy51:  ctrl-shift-backspace
[03:00] <ptfd9100> how do you fix the "kfmclient-kde4 openProfile webbrowsing" problem
[03:00] <jimmy51> genii:  i know that one... it restarts KDE
[03:00] <jimmy51> genii:  if i hit shift backspace, KDE just crashes......  only wallpaper and mouse icon visible
[03:02] <genii> jimmy51: The answer then to the question "should SHIFT+Backspace kill KDE?" is no
[03:02] <ronnie__> I use an M-audio usb plug with my midi keyboard to connect to the computer, it does seem to read it, i just probably dont have it conneted in options choices, ill try & try again, : )   thx anyhow,
[03:03] <jimmy51> genii:  ok, i've got a problem then.  i just wanted to make sure it's not normal behavior before i look into the issue
[03:03] <genii> ronnie__: Some music ppl I know swear by the app timidity but I haven't used it
[03:03] <jimmy51> thanks!
[03:04] <ronnie__> hmm  ok ill check out that,thx, not installed at the moment cause I thought it was for karaoke, hehe
[03:05] <ronnie__> later room....  : )  : )
[03:06] <genii> jimmy51: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/shift-backspace-kills-x-server-123293/ may have what you need
[03:06] <genii> bah they left
[03:08] <XadVio> hi im back
[03:08] <ptfd9100> how do you fix the "kfmclient-kde4 openProfile webbrowsing" problem
[03:11] <XadVio> i've got to go again
[03:11] <XadVio> brb
[03:15] <ubuntu_> hi, i see, to be having a problem. i had a problem that i couldnt resolve, so i decided i would make a new partition, put a new install of kubuntu on it then keep the old partition (because it has aboue 100gb of data on it) and i could just use it as my /home directory and have the new partiton for the OS only. so i installed it, and now it wont boot up. it keeps booting up to the old OS (on the old partiton) how can i fix this?
[03:19] <thomas_newbie__> I have a server on my machine and my mother is being a pain and is saying she is really scared that a hacker will break in, or a virus through my server and access her computer and destroy it....should I be worried?
[03:24] <genii> thomas_newbie__: maybe get some tips on herdening your server in #ubuntu-server channel
[03:25] <genii> thomas_newbie__: But I'd say generally your mother doesn't have much to worry over.
[03:28] <jjesse> ok i'm having problems with my networking via knetworkmanager, i changed it to manual and now i can't select any other wireless connections, how do i bring that back?
[03:30] <ganjamaniac> cool
[03:31] <jjesse> !knetworkmanager
[03:31] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[03:31] <ganjamaniac> !knerd
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knerd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <ganjamaniac> !nvidia
[03:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:31] <ganjamaniac> !distributed-net
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distributed-net - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <ganjamaniac> i got a problem using dnetc with mdns
[03:32] <ganjamaniac> they are somehow incompatible
[03:33] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i start over with everything without reinstalling kubuntu
[03:33] <ganjamaniac> turn back the time or something
[03:34] <Jay-Oh-En> shut up
[03:35] <ender> unless you backed up the system...I think you are hosed, unless you mounted your /home directory to its own partition
[03:35] <Jay-Oh-En> it is
[03:35] <ender> then just reinstall and keep the partitions and don't format home...why do you need to start over?
[03:35] <Jay-Oh-En> home is its own partion
[03:36] <Jay-Oh-En> cause my computers been slow lately and i dont know whats causing it
[03:36] <Jay-Oh-En> like when i type
[03:36] <ender> checked system processes?
[03:36] <Jay-Oh-En> it goes slow
[03:36] <Jay-Oh-En> yeah
[03:36] <Jay-Oh-En> in htop
[03:36] <Jay-Oh-En> but nothings taking up anything
[03:36] <Jay-Oh-En> Sysinfo for 'Scrap-me': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643000+ at 2100 MHz (4204 bogomips), , RAM: 905/1011MB, 149 proc's, 2.38h up
[03:37] <Jay-Oh-En> Sysinfo for 'Scrap-me': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643000+ at 2100 MHz (4204 bogomips), , RAM: 905/1011MB, 149 proc's, 2.38h up
[03:37] <Jay-Oh-En> thats my system info
[03:37] <bazhang> may want to get more ram if possible
[03:37] <Jay-Oh-En> its a gig
[03:37] <bazhang> so I see
[03:37] <Jay-Oh-En> mozilla seems to be the slowest thing
[03:38] <moparguy98632> hello , 2 quick questions
[03:38] <Jay-Oh-En> besides frostwire
[03:38] <bazhang> Jay-Oh-En: I would wait for firefox three before doing something drastic
[03:38] <Jay-Oh-En> and i cant get the sound to work for kopete
[03:38] <Jay-Oh-En> whens that gonna be bazhang?
[03:38] <rishad> hi. i want to upgrade to hardy but also run a stable gutsy system. what do i need to do?
[03:38] <ender> have you restarted lately?  looks like something has a memory leak
[03:38] <moparguy98632> wahts the Kde command for upgrade?
[03:38] <Jay-Oh-En> ender: me?
[03:38] <ender> yes
[03:39] <Jay-Oh-En> ender: hmm i restart alot
[03:39] <Jay-Oh-En> twice or more a day
[03:39] <bazhang> likely firefox or a torrent client such as azureus
[03:39] <ganjamaniac> wacko mips, i have mipsel
[03:39] <ganjamaniac> nah frickelfox isn't so fine$
[03:39] <Jay-Oh-En> bazhang: i dont have any
[03:40] <moparguy98632> and the other question is what player will play avi Fiels?
[03:40] <moparguy98632> its started with a soemthing
[03:40] <ganjamaniac> i am messed up with java on frickelfox
[03:40] <moparguy98632> avls or soemthing?
[03:40] <ganjamaniac> !java
[03:40] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:41] <ganjamaniac> !multiverse
[03:41] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:41] <ganjamaniac> !firefox java
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox java - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <ganjamaniac> !firefork
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <antorogon> hello
[03:43] <ganjamaniac> hmm ubuntu is using a OLD hell libmdns from 2005
[03:43] <ganjamaniac> hmm what a crap
[03:44] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i check if a i have a memory leak
[03:44] <Jay-Oh-En> or can somebody help me make my cpomputer faster
[03:44] <ganjamaniac> put the computer into a bathtube
[03:44] <ganjamaniac> if you see some blubbs you have a memleak
[03:45] <bazhang> ganjamaniac: cmon that is not helpful
[03:46] <bazhang> Jay-Oh-En: use a lighter browser, get some more ram, or wait for firefox three; those are all options available now
[03:48] <Jay-Oh-En> bazhang: what would you suggest as a lighter browser
[03:48] <Jay-Oh-En> i dont gewt it tho my computer was fast as heck when i forst installed
[03:48] <dthacker> Jay-Oh-En: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179540 may help you.  Disclaimer: I have not tried this myself.
[03:49] <bazhang> Jay-Oh-En: it is likely a memory leak from firefox--even the beta is much lighter--as to other alternatives, there are plenty in the repos--you can try some out
[03:49] <rishad> hi. sorry to ask again but i want to upgrade to hardy but also run a stable gutsy system. what do i need to do?
[03:50] <bazhang> rishad: dual boot or on two different computers
[03:50] <genii> Jay-Oh-En: If you use a torrent client of some sort make sure you don't keep seeding torrents indefinitely. This causes horrible slowdown that seems like memory leak
[03:51] <ganjamaniac> whaetver i got libnss-mdns from debian package repo
[03:52] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i get rid of ubuntu programs that installed on kde
[03:52] <moparguy98632> hello, I was wondering if I can get the command line that forces the upgrade to begine
[03:52] <bazhang> Jay-Oh-En: un install them
[03:53] <Jay-Oh-En> there is so many tho
[03:53] <moparguy98632> upgrade!
[03:53] <moparguy98632> taht is wierd
[03:54] <Jay-Oh-En> !upgrade
[03:54] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:54] <bazhang> moparguy98632: you want the factoid?
[03:54] <moparguy98632> sure
[03:54] <bazhang> see above moparguy98632
[03:55] <moparguy98632> eh ok..eh better yet waht is the command line?
[03:57] <bazhang> moparguy who are you talking to?
[03:57] <bazhang> he left?
[03:58] <ubuntu_> what do i need to install to play a .avi
[03:58] <maduser> vlc
[03:59] <ubuntu_> dont you need some sort of restricted drivers
[03:59] <ubuntu_> because i cant get kaffiene to play an avi
[03:59] <bazhang> install kubuntu-restricted-extras ubuntu_
[03:59] <ubuntu_> thanks
[04:00] <bazhang> no worries :}
[04:00] <ubuntu_> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:01] <bazhang> enable the repos in adept ubuntu_
[04:01] <ubuntu_> im on a live cd
[04:01] <bazhang> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:01] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[04:02] <bazhang> uh ok
[04:02] <ubuntu_> can you not play an avi on a live cd?
[04:03] <ganjamaniac> whaetve r i move to soyuz
[04:03] <ganjamaniac> sovayuz or something
[04:03] <bazhang> ubuntu never tried
[04:04] <ganjamaniac> who cares about restricted extras
[04:05] <bazhang> ganjamaniac: people who need support care; this is not a chitchat channel please take it to offtopic
[04:07] <specialbuddy> is anyone else having a hard time getting the kde4 RC 2 to work
[04:07] <ganjamaniac> hey develdoper
[04:12] <specialbuddy> can someone help me out with kde4
[04:12] <some_dude> how can i extract a file from a .deb file
[04:13] <specialbuddy> some_dude, can't you just right click and select open?
[04:13] <bazhang> specialbuddy: you do know that final will be released tomorrow right?
[04:13] <specialbuddy> oh really
[04:13] <specialbuddy> haha
[04:13] <specialbuddy> that's funny
[04:13] <specialbuddy> will it be easier to install
[04:14] <bazhang> specialbuddy: define 'easy'
[04:14] <specialbuddy> well this kde4 rc2 doesn't work for me
[04:14] <specialbuddy> it loads up and I have a white screen
[04:15] <specialbuddy> followed the instructions on the kubuntu site
[04:15] <some_dude> no
[04:15] <specialbuddy> I'm not totally new to doing this stuff
[04:15] <specialbuddy> where did you download the .deb file
[04:15] <bazhang> it is pretty graphics intensive--can your system handle it specialbuddy
[04:16] <specialbuddy> probably
[04:16] <bazhang> okay..
[04:16] <specialbuddy> geforce go 7600, core 2 duo 7200 2 gb ram
[04:16] <specialbuddy> is that not good enough?
[04:17] <bazhang> more than enough--I got it going on much less in fact specialbuddy
[04:17] <specialbuddy> I have had beryl and compiz working so it will probably work
[04:17] <bazhang> certainly
[04:17] <specialbuddy> some_dude, are you still having problems
[04:19] <specialbuddy> so kde4 is going to be released for sure in 2 days?
[04:21] <bazhang> 1/11/2008; two days for some, one day for others :}
[04:21] <specialbuddy> I hope it's not hard to install
[04:23] <knic> I have a thinkpad x60s and I cannot properly enable the external video port for 1280x1024, can someone help me
[04:24] <moparguy98632> eh, um, i need the update command for kde...eh somthing simular to the apt get command used in ubuntu..or do i just get the update mannager?
[04:25] <ubuntu_> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:26] <moparguy98632> !update
[04:26] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:26] <ubuntu_> !restricted
[04:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:37] <moparguy98632> eh I need a refresher  coarse eh hwo again do I log in with super user thingy?
[04:37] <moparguy98632> eh wats the commnad line?
[04:37] <bazhang> moparguy98632: sudo?
[04:37] <moparguy98632> !super user
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about super user - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <moparguy98632> ah yweaht htat one
[04:38] <posingaspopular> !konsole
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <moparguy98632> so it would be sudo apt get <what ever I need>?
[04:38] <posingaspopular> moparguy98632: that's right
[04:39] <bazhang> moparguy98632: sudo apt-get install packagename for example
[04:39] <moparguy98632> ok
[04:41] <bargainmart> wasabi
[04:42] <bargainmart> is there a way to change the boot string permanently?  I have to edit manually everytime to get kubuntu to load.
[04:45] <stdin> bargainmart: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:46] <bargainmart> oh thats simple
[04:48] <Thecks> Hey, was looking for some help... Trying to connect via FTP (Konqueror, Dolphin) and normally it's fine
[04:48] <Thecks> However one username has an @ in it, I tried replacing it with + or %40
[04:48] <Thecks> And at first load it's fine, but any other actions after that
[04:48] <Thecks> Make the url into<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:49] <Thecks> It truncates most of the username and so it doesn't work =/
[04:49] <Thecks> Any ideas anybody? :)
[04:53] <Thecks> This sucks, I expect it's a KDE issue as it effects both Konqueror and Dolphin :(
[04:55] <console_jockey> I have kubuntu gutsy installed with the medibuntu repo defined.  I'm trying to get my system to play back mp3's but without success.  I've installed gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 and ubuntu-restricted-extras but still no go. I can open dolphin with audiocd:/MP3 and see the files, but no playback.  What am I missing?
[04:56] <bazhang> kubuntu-restricted-extras console_jockey?
[04:57] <console_jockey> arg!  I install ubuntu-restriced-extras....
[04:57] <bazhang> gstreamer vs xine iirc
[04:57] <console_jockey> although when I try to install kubuntu-restricted-extra's there is nothing more to install...
[04:58] <console_jockey> I installed the gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[04:58] <console_jockey> not xine though
[04:59] <bazhang> ah what is it--libxine1-ffmpeg? memory fails me at the moment
[04:59] <bazhang> !find ffmpeg
[04:59] <ubotu> Found: ffmpeg, ffmpeg2theora, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, libxine1-ffmpeg, moc-ffmpeg-plugin
[04:59] <console_jockey> I appear to have installed libxine1-ffmpeg as well...
[04:59] <bazhang> odd
[05:00] <console_jockey> yeah
[05:00] <bazhang> using amarok on gutsy?
[05:00] <console_jockey> what happens when I try to play an mp3 is the player loads but not time is indicated and of course nothing plays.
[05:00] <console_jockey> amorak on gutsy as well as noatun
[05:01] <bazhang> for all of your mp3?
[05:01] <console_jockey> when I try to play an mp3 on amarok it prompts me to install mp3 support then doesn't do anything... which is also odd as this is how ive added support in the past.
[05:03] <console_jockey> yes, all mp3
[05:04] <bazhang> what engine is amarok using? you can fiddle with that and see if that helps
[05:04] <console_jockey> dont know
[05:04] <bazhang> in configuration menu you can adjust it
[05:05] <console_jockey> using xine
[05:05] <bazhang> try something else and see if that works
[05:05] <console_jockey> damn, I've gotten this to work on other machines.. and it wasn't this difficult.  I recall one of those "ah-ha!" moments when I discovered the right lib but I can't remember what it was now...
[05:05] <console_jockey> there was no other choice in the drop down, so evidently I have installed another engine.
[05:07] <bazhang> I would think that the install of ubuntu-restricted-extras is somehow conflicting with kubuntu-restricted-extras; otherwise another engine install might do it--not sure though--this is fairly critical though
[05:08] <console_jockey> let me remove the ubuntu and try to reinstall kubuntu
[05:08] <bazhang> does xmms or any other media player play them? if so then it is an amarok engine problem
[05:09] <bazhang> or just plain old vlc
[05:09] <bazhang> just as a test obviously--not a full time solution
[05:18] <console_jockey> I will check
[05:19] <bazhang> worth a shot--this is something that needs to be solved though--probably number two behind web connection imo
[05:21] <console_jockey> xine-ui won't play nor will vlc... something is definitely wrong
[05:22] <bazhang> then not an amarok issue
[05:22] <console_jockey> nope, not amarok.  it's just won't let me play mp3's
[05:24] <console_jockey> now, I am getting something from xine stating no demuxer was located to play the mp3...
[05:25] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566021 this seems to be somewhat similar
[05:25] <bazhang> libxine1-extracodecs iirc
[05:34] <console_jockey> ok, now I think I'm going crazy.  I had thought maybe I hadn't been playing mp3's on this machine but now I know I have as I found a whole host of files I was playing for the longest time.  I think I may have installed something that broke libxine1.  When I aptitude install libxine1 I get a message that it's broken and then it suggests that I remove a whole host of applications...
[05:36] <bazhang> console_jockey: so it seems the kubuntu/ubuntu restricted deal may have been it after all, or at least the most likely candidate
[05:37] <sigma_1234> i dont use that package. i prefer installing everything manually
[05:39] <sigma_1234> so whens the next beta of hardy coming out?
[05:40] <bazhang> alpha you mean? that would be in #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <intelikey> i have an issue with iptables  any proficent ones here ?
[05:47] <intelikey> i can work through the box one dirrection but not the other way      thus i assume it's an iptables issue
[05:49] <bazhang> guarddog is a decent front end for iptables as is (gnome) firestarter--have you tried either of those?
[05:50] <intelikey> Q-collective ???   wasn't that Q-continuim and borg collective ?
[05:50] <intelikey> bazhang well no. working cli here.  but i can try them
[05:50] <Q-collective> intelikey: gotta love the mix ;)
[05:51] <intelikey> heh.  the Q gets assemilated
[05:51] <Q-collective> universe is screwed :p
[05:52] <intelikey> even species 4872 has had it    no doubt
[05:52] <intelikey> ok guarddog installed i'll give it a look see
[05:56] <catalin1234> hello
[05:56] <intelikey> wyoh!  you call that a "decent front end for iptables" i'm totally lost there.  i mean completely clueless.
[05:56] <intelikey> catalin1234
[05:56] <catalin1234> can you uninstall 'konqueror' or is it a must-have for kubuntu
[05:56] <catalin1234> i have firefox right now
[05:57] <catalin1234> i know how to uninstall it, i just don't know if it's safe
[05:57] <intelikey> test    sudo apt-get remove konqueror
[05:57] <intelikey> that will list anything it is going to take with it.
[05:58] <intelikey> and if it were to only list "kubuntu-desktop" that would be fine.  no loss at all.
[05:58] <catalin1234> it said "too many arguments"
[05:58] <catalin1234> bash: test: too many arguments
[05:59] <intelikey> test is not part of the command i was sujesting.  that's why the long      gap.
[05:59] <Q-collective> konq makes a fine filemanager aswell catalin1234
[06:00] <catalin1234> that's the thing that worries me... i know it's a file manager
[06:00] <intelikey> konqueror is a file manager.  it just does web stuff too
[06:00] <Q-collective> konqueror is more an umbrella that keeps together kparts ;)
[06:00] <catalin1234> but for file manager i always use dolphin
[06:01] <catalin1234> question is...
[06:01] <catalin1234> if i take out konq
[06:01] <ardchoille> catalin1234: konqueror is just a shell for kio_slaves. It is, IMHO, as safe as any other web browser. I'm very security-minded and I use konq as my default web browser.
[06:01] <catalin1234> do the kparts fall apart
[06:01] <bazhang> catalin1234: better to switch to gnome than try and take that out
[06:02] <Q-collective> catalin1234: well, try it. If it goes wrong then just reinstall konq
[06:02] <intelikey> test#    sudo apt-get remove konqueror
[06:02] <Q-collective> simple
[06:02] <mohi> hi all!
[06:02] <mohi> I waana to that Kubuntu 8.10 will be LTS or not?
[06:02] <mohi> *wanna
[06:02] <ardchoille> mohi: No, it will not be LTS
[06:03] <ardchoille> mohi: Oh, 8.10? No idea. But 8.04 will not be LTS
[06:03] <intelikey> ardchoille note 8.10
[06:03] <intelikey> yeah...
[06:03] <catalin1234> okey
[06:03] <catalin1234> thanx
[06:03] <ardchoille> intelikey: Yeah, misread for a sec :)
[06:03] <mohi> ardchoille: when would it be completely desisioned?
[06:04] <intelikey> ok i'm going to try to learn what in sams hill guarddog does...
[06:04] <mohi> ardchoille: I mean when can we be sure of this?
[06:04] <intelikey> mohi some time after 8.4 releases
[06:04] <Q-collective> mohi: when canonical says so
[06:05] <ardchoille> mohi: You can be sure that 8.04 will not be an LTS release.. that decision has been made already.
[06:05] <mohi> you mean that despite ubuntu 8.04 is LTS, Kubuntu may be LTS a version after this?
[06:06] <mohi> ardchoille: and officially? do you have link of news plz?
[06:07] <intelikey> ok in guarddog  under the 'zones' tab there are two 'internet' and 'local'  and no way to affect either.  why does it not see the nat ?
[06:07] <intelikey> do i need to add it ?
[06:07] <console_jockey> ok, back with the mp3 questions.  I've found that I had install mpg321 which, when I call it from the command line, will play the same mp3's that amarok, xine, noatun and vlc will not... what does that suggest?
[06:07] <vzduch> mohi: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20080107#news <-- 2nd article
[06:08] <john-charles> dose any one know the command to make a simlink to a directory via terminal?
[06:08] <console_jockey> ln -s
[06:08] <intelikey> ln -s source/dir/ link/name
[06:08] <console_jockey> more specifically ln -s /path/to/symlink symlinkname
[06:08] <john-charles> thanks
[06:08] <mohi> vzduch: yeas.. I've seen this... may be something by caninical itself?
[06:09] <vzduch> mohi: if you read the article, you haven't missed https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002099.html
[06:09]  * intelikey goes for firestarter to see if it makes anymore sense...
[06:10] <mohi> vzduch: its just a mailing list! I need news! I'm one of the admin members of ubuntu-ir and need a official news, I have to answer the questions in forums truely!
[06:10] <Q-collective> intelikey: imho there is no really good iptables frontend out there
[06:11] <Q-collective> it's really one of thos areas where usability lags behind
[06:12] <intelikey> Q-collective yeah.   guarddog certainly isn't one.
[06:15] <dthacker> mohi: that message in the mailing list is from a Canonical employeee.  It's accurate, and if you read it, you'll see why the decision was made.
[06:16] <console_jockey> why would a utility like mpg321 be able to playback mp3 files but not any other application i have?
[06:16] <mohi> dthacker: and I just wanna know your idea about this desision, generally.. ;) ?
[06:17] <dthacker> mohi: I agree with the decision. The timing is not right for an LTS using KDE 4.
[06:18] <mohi> dthacker: and what about 8.10? do you like it to be LTS ?
[06:18] <dthacker> If you want to continue this we should move it to offtopic, ;)
[06:18] <mohi> dthacker: and other question is : "is Kubuntu 8.04 comes with kde4 officially?" or kde3.5 ? or both?
[06:19] <dthacker> as of now, both.  but we're still in alpha....
[06:19] <vzduch> mohi: you can find all of that in this mailing list thread
[06:23] <intelikey> heh i try running the firestarter it kickstarts a wizard which asks which device is connected to the internet.   but none are.  so what do i answer to that one ?
[06:26] <intelikey> have two devices  eth0(<IP_ADDRESS>/24)  and  eth1(<IP_ADDRESS>/24)   i don't want things from one nat blocked from the other nat.   infact that's the problem that causes me to run guarddog/firestarter to unblock the 0 nat from accessing the 1 nat   ?
[06:26] <bazhang> ardchoille: nice!
[06:26] <bazhang> about time imo
[06:30] <intelikey> well from the best i can tell neither of those firewall scripts offer any option remotely close to what i need.
[06:32] <bazhang> sorry intelikey just suggestions; not really my area
[06:34] <intelikey> bazhang not blaming you.  just saying they both seem to assume some kind of default setup/need   and make no allowance for a non-default.
[06:34] <sperlo> so I  attempted to install the nvdia driver, then found the restricted nvidia driver. couldn't install, removed the nvidia I installed  now the video works great, but I seem to have some how removed my sound driver
[06:34] <intelikey> it's as if the writers think.  "if they are setting up any thing iptables related, that means they want to block something."
[06:35] <john-charles> Is there a way to see what the different colors represent on the output of an ls command in the terminal?
[06:35] <sperlo> any ideas?
[06:35] <intelikey> sperlo not unless your audio chip is getting a restricted module
[06:36] <sperlo> I   tried to lsmod snd-hda-intel and no luck
[06:36] <sperlo> well the sound worked fine before I did the restricted driver
[06:36] <some_dude> my sound may or may not be working
[06:36] <some_dude> and what files control the virtual termainls?
[06:37] <sperlo> well I got things working well then started on the video driver and now am soundless
[06:39] <intelikey> john-charles The environment variable LS_COLORS can
[06:39] <intelikey>        influence the colors, and can be set easily by the dircolors command.
[06:39] <intelikey> perhaps a clue-by-four
 and what files control the virtual termainls? <<< ?   what do you need/want ?
[06:40] <mohi> how much should I download to have KDE4 in my kubuntu?
[06:41] <monzie> Hi all
[06:41] <monzie> I am having an Acer Aspire 2920 laptop with Kubuntu 7.10
[06:41] <monzie> It has an Intel Extreme x3100 card
[06:41] <monzie> which would be the best graphics driver for such a card?
[06:41] <intelikey> some_dude basicly /etc/inittab assuming that upstart still uses one
[06:42] <some_dude> I thought it was *i guess the old way* where it said vt1= /bin/getty or something like that
[06:43] <some_dude> I'm trying to place a second kdm session vt8
[06:43] <intelikey> some_dude yeah should be an "/sbin/getty" linsting for each tty that init activates   but that doesn't exactly "control" them
[06:43] <intelikey> some_dude you don't want that then.   you want /etc/kde/kdm/kdm*
[06:44] <intelikey> .conf i think
[06:44] <monzie> which is the best driver for intel extreme graphics cards?
[06:44] <intelikey> assuming kdm   if gdm  then /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[06:44] <monzie> the "intel" or the "i810" driver?
[06:44] <some_dude> I need to edit the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file i think
[06:44] <mohi> how much should I download by adept to have KDE4 in my kubuntu?
[06:45] <intelikey> some_dude yeah kdmrc    guess so
[06:45] <noaXess> good morning folks... was up today?
[06:46] <some_dude> I'm not sure if I should be trying to edit the ServerVTs line or the StaticServers ?
[06:47] <some_dude> It would be nicer if kdm ran on VT7, then did a transfer to VT8, 9, 10 for each new session
[06:48] <intelikey> it should/used to
[06:48] <mohi> how can I find out spesific permissins a user have?
[06:48] <intelikey> by default i mean ^
[06:48] <intelikey> mohi groups
[06:49] <mohi> intelikey: by konsole ?
[06:49] <intelikey> mohi permissions are not set to a user but to the individual inodes
[06:49] <intelikey> mohi yes
[06:50] <mohi> intelikey: oh! tanx! worked! ;)
[06:50] <mohi> intelikey:  how much should I download by adept to have KDE4 on my kubuntu?
[06:50] <intelikey> mohi sorry i don't even really understand the question, and if i did probably couldn't answer it.
[06:51]  * intelikey is using the LTS
[06:51] <DreadKnight> mohi: you mean what to download in order to have kde4?
[06:52] <mohi> I mean I wanna have kde4 on this system! I wana have it istalled by adept and want to know how much does it download from internet to install it!
[06:52] <DreadKnight> mohi: around 200 mb the most i think
[06:53] <mohi> DreadKnight: oh! tanx!
[06:53] <DreadKnight> mohi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive
[06:54] <stdin> I'd wait a while if I were you
[06:54] <DreadKnight> mohi: but that is still rather old compared to source.... kde4 release is tomorow
[06:54] <mohi> i see
[06:54] <DreadKnight> mohi: wait a day or to... then "sudo apt-get install kde4" :D
[06:54] <DreadKnight> two*
[06:55] <DreadKnight> the PPA is even broken since last update :|
[06:55] <mohi> DreadKnight: ;)
[06:55] <DreadKnight> :)
[07:00] <mohi> DreadKnight: dou you think kde developers when would make kde4 on kubuntu ready? or maybe a live disk?
[07:00] <Jucato> mohi: kde developers don't make distro packages. that's what distro developers/packagers do. :)
[07:01] <Jucato> and yes, there will be JKDE 4.0 packages released ASAP... so please be patient for a little while longer
[07:01] <DreadKnight> mohi: #kde4-release-party  the official kde4 release is friday... you'll find the packages in the ubuntu/kubuntu repository tomorow or so
[07:01] <mohi> Jucato: oK! them... ? when do we have kubuntu live disk with kde4
[07:02] <DreadKnight> mohi: also, kubuntu 8.04 will ship with kde4 :D
[07:02] <Owner> does Dell Wireless 1395 work on kubuntu?
[07:02] <Jucato> mohi: not entirely sure on that one. perhaps in Kubuntu Hardy (8.04) already
[07:02] <mohi> DreadKnight: boy! i wanna downloas sooner!
[07:02] <mohi> *doenload ;)
[07:02] <DreadKnight> mohi: on a new kubuntu 8.04 milestone for sure :)
[07:02] <mohi> *download! wtf!
[07:02] <sigma_1234> im getting video thats a bit jerky. what can i do to smooth it out?
[07:03] <DreadKnight> mohi: compile from svn then :D
[07:03] <Jucato> DreadKnight: I don't think so...
[07:03] <DreadKnight> Jucato: don't think so about what? :D
[07:03] <Jucato> perhaps in the Beta or RC, but not the alphas
[07:03] <DreadKnight> Jucato: oh yeah :)
[07:03] <Jucato> DreadKnight: hardy milestones/alpha releases
[07:03] <DreadKnight> Jucato: the alpha still has kde3
[07:04] <sigma_1234> im streaming da videos over a wireless network
[07:04] <Jucato> unless it has changed, there will be 2 Kubuntu Hardy versions. one with KDE 3.5.8 (or 3.5.9) and one with KDE 4.0
[07:04] <sigma_1234> isnt kubuntu hardy alpha 3 due out today?
[07:05] <DreadKnight> sigma_1234: is it? :D hmm.. i'll check about it.. perhaps will include kde4 ^^
[07:06] <sigma_1234> yeah the release schedule says 10 jan
[07:06] <Jucato> [08:20] <corevette> will KDE4 be in alpha 3?
[07:06] <Jucato> [08:23] <Riddell> corevette: no
[07:06] <Jucato> DreadKnight: ^^^^
[07:06] <sigma_1234> which is today
[07:07] <Jucato> (that was what I was referring to by "don't think so" earlier)
[07:08] <sigma_1234> kde4 would only be in it if the alpha was released tomorrow
[07:08] <stdin> sigma_1234: nope
[07:09] <DreadKnight> Jucato: xD mrrr
[07:09] <DreadKnight> sigma_1234: this things take planning and time ;) next milestone for sure
[07:09] <DreadKnight> and work :D
[07:10] <sigma_1234> so when will kde4 appear in the hardy alphas?
[07:11] <stdin> we'll see how the 4.0.0 release is first, then decide
[07:14] <jasmin_> why do i get this error checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:14] <stdin> !b-e
[07:15]  * stdin slaps ubotu
[07:15] <stdin> install "build-essential"
[07:16] <Jucato> !ping
[07:16] <Jucato> bot down! bot down!
[07:28] <sigma_1234> how do i check dma is enabled on my hard drives?
[07:30] <jussi01> sigma_1234: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[07:33] <stdin> !test
[07:33] <Ubotwo> Fbiled.
[07:33] <sigma_1234> how did da bot die?
[07:34] <stdin> ubotu's just having a rest, Ubotwo's here to take the slack
[07:35]  * jussi01 hugs stdin
[07:35] <sigma_1234> lol. didnt know bots needed 2rest
[07:35] <stdin> if ubotu comes back just /remove Ubotwo (if I'm not around)
[07:36] <stdin> sigma_1234: ubotu works hard, he deserves a rest :)
[07:36] <sigma_1234> stdin: is hardy alpha 3 out today?
[07:36] <sigma_1234> so true. he has certainly taught me alot :)
[07:37] <Jucato> Ubotwo: part
[07:37]  * stdin points sigma_1234 to > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyReleaseSchedule <
[07:37] <Jucato> omg! sorry
[07:37] <jussi01> stdin: sure
[07:37] <jussi01> lol
[07:37] <Jucato> sorry! I didn't know I still had power :/
[07:37] <stdin> Ubotwo: whoami
[07:37] <Ubotwo> stdin: stdin
[07:38] <stdin> that's how you knwo
[07:38] <stdin> *know
[07:38]  * Jucato didn't know that either :P
[07:38] <Tm_T> Ubotwo: whoami
[07:38] <Ubotwo> Tm_T: I don't recognize you.
[07:38] <sigma_1234> stdin: it says 10th jan. but there isnt even a wiki page 4it yet
[07:38] <n8k99> Ubotwo: whoami
[07:38] <Ubotwo> n8k99: I don't recognize you.
[07:39] <Tm_T> Ubotwo: but you should, I am the Overseer
[07:39] <Ubotwo> Tm_T: Error: "but" is not a valid command.
[07:39] <tinin> hey, what's a good wifi detection and conection application?
[07:39] <stdin> sigma_1234: then it's due today, wait and see. it'll be a nice surprise
[07:40] <sigma_1234> tinin: kwifimanager
[07:40] <tinin> thanx sigma_1234
[07:40] <sigma_1234> lol ok. just weird the wiki page is usually up way before it gets released
[07:41] <sigma_1234> no prob
[07:41] <Jucato> sigma_1234: it has always been like that
[07:43] <sigma_1234> my video is jerky but not that much. just enough 2b irritating. what could be the problem?
[07:43] <Tm_T> sigma_1234: 2b?
[07:43] <sigma_1234> to be. sorry im chatting on a cellphone
[07:44] <stdin> '[ [ 2b ] || ![ 2b ] ]'
[07:44] <Jucato> !u
[07:44] <Ubotwo> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:01]  * jussi01 runs..... nooooooooo :P
[08:01]  * ActionParsnip waves frantically
[08:05] <apparle> hi
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> hi apparle
[08:06] <apparle> what is the command to know the contents of selection buffer
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> made me laugh. Check Bug #1for Ubuntu to fix (ongoing) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[08:06] <Ubotwo> Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]
[08:06] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: ?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Just made me laugh :)
[08:07] <Tm_T> mmmm, ok
[08:07] <apparle> ardchoille: are you there
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> its fairly tongue in cheek
[08:07] <ardchoille> apparle: I am
[08:08] <apparle> ardchoille: do know the command in konsole to know the contents of selection buffer
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Just looked at the new stuff in hardy. xorg.conf ease is a great new featue :D
[08:09] <ardchoille> apparle: No, If I did I would answered your question the first time you asked it :)
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> apparle, do you mean the copy buffer?
[08:09] <apparle> ardchoille: and the contents of clipboard
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> apparle, ready for pasting...
[08:10] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I did not mean that. But it would also serve my purpose
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> apparle, man klipper (i'm guessing here, googling)
[08:12] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I know klipper
[08:13] <ardchoille> apparle: If you're using klipper: dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents
[08:13] <apparle> I want to replace the contents of 'clip' by the contents of clipboard in this command "wn clip -over"
[08:14] <apparle> ardchoille" Will this do "wn $(dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents) -over
[08:14] <Tm_T> apparle: dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents
[08:14] <Tm_T> bahhhhhh
[08:14] <Tm_T> ardchoille: murrr
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> apparle, http://www.usenet-forums.com/linux-general/94164-command-line-access-clipboard.html
[08:15] <ardchoille> Tm_T: :)
[08:16] <[ifr0g]> .
[08:16] <apparle> Tm_T: Will this do "wn $(dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents) -over"
[08:16] <test1-ba-pdgin> hi, hello all
[08:16] <test1-ba-pdgin> I have a big problem with apt-get system as follows:
[08:17] <test1-ba-pdgin> I downlowded all of repository of ubuntu from archive.ubuntu.com and made a local repository for my own but
[08:17] <test1-ba-pdgin> afterrunning the "apt-get update" command it tells me:
[08:17] <test1-ba-pdgin> E: Wow, you exceeded the number of versions this APT is capable of.
[08:17] <Tm_T> apparle: try ;)
[08:18] <test1-ba-pdgin> how can I solve this problem ?
[08:19] <apparle> ardchoille & Tm_T : How do you know such complicated commands  :o
[08:19] <ardchoille> apparle: kdcop :)
[08:20] <Tm_T> apparle: I just know (well, by tabfilling in konsole
[08:20] <Tm_T> )
[08:20] <apparle> Tm_T: what is tabfilling
[08:21] <Tm_T> !tab | apparle
[08:21] <apparle> ardchoille: kdcop
[08:21] <Ubotwo> apparle: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:21] <apparle> ardchoille: what is kdcop?
[08:21] <Tm_T> apparle: kdcop is application
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> !kdcop
[08:21] <Ubotwo> Factoid kdcop not found
[08:21] <Tm_T> !info kdcop
[08:21] <Ubotwo> Package kdcop does not exist in gutsy
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kdcop/index.html
[08:22] <test1-ba-pdgin> hi, is not there anyone thinking about my problem ?
[08:22] <ardchoille> test1-ba-pdgin: It could be that the folks looking at their screen right now don't have an answer
[08:22] <apparle> another question, when I use  kdialog -msgbox how to display more than 1 word
[08:23] <jussi01> !night
[08:23] <Ubotwo> It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> apparle, does\ this\ type\ of\ thing\ work
[08:23] <apparle> ardchoille: :)
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> apparle, "or try maybe some quotes"
[08:24] <Tm_T> apparle: can you do "foo foo foo" ? ;)
[08:24] <ardchoille> apparle: kdialog --msgbox "this is a test"
[08:24] <Tm_T> ardchoille: murrr
[08:25] <apparle> no I have a command " kdialog -msgbox $(wn word -over)" . Only one word of text returned by "wn word -over" is displayed
[08:26] <apparle> Tm_T and ardchoille: help me with this also
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> apparle, you could replace the spaces with "\ "
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> apparle, i dont know what input kdialog uses for spaces
[08:28] <apparle> ActionParsnip I want to display the data returned by "wn word -over" in a dialog box\
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> apparle, I get it man. you may have to mess with it to put some \ characters before the spaces. or maybe "s at ehe start and end of the string
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> apparle, i'm googling away (work is dead so I have time)
[08:31] <apparle> ardchoille: Can you do this :I have a command " kdialog -msgbox $(wn word -over)" . Only one word of text returned by "wn word -over" is displayed
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> apparle, looks like it needs quotes
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> http://fosswire.com/2007/12/21/making-kde-dialogue-boxes-appear-from-shell-scripts/
[08:32] <ardchoille> apparle: Please do not hilight people unnecessarily. If we know an answer to your questions, someone will speak up
[08:32] <ardchoille> apparle: And, whatever "wn" is, I don't have it.
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> !wn
[08:33] <Ubotwo> Factoid wn not found
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille, http://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/wn/
[08:33] <apparle> ardchoille: I am extremely sorry. wn is dictionary which returns a paragraph about the word. wn is wordnet
[08:34] <apparle> !wordnet
[08:34] <Ubotwo> Factoid wordnet not found
[08:34] <apparle> how to choose a mirror for a download?
[08:39] <apparle> ActionParsnip: do you get anything
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> apparle, i think the return from wn needs "s round it. Can you somehow inset " characters at the start and end of the string then kdialog it?
[08:42] <apparle> nope
[08:42] <apparle> ActionParsnip: see if yu can find it
[08:43] <apparle> anybody else here knows how to insert " in a command as text
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> apparle, will do. brb
[08:44] <apparle> brb?
[08:44] <tomahasamoot> hello
[08:44] <apparle> hello
[08:45] <tomahasamoot> apparle: thank you, I was beging to think I had a problem w/ chat
[08:45] <ardchoille> apparle: Try this: kdialog --msgbox "$(uptime)"
[08:45] <Lynoure> apparle: \"
[08:45] <ardchoille> apparle: Uptime output has spaces in it, but the $(uptime) is quoted
[08:46] <tomahasamoot> kdialog --msgbox "$(uptime)"
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> apparle, is that any good. I'm at work on XP atm so I can't test
[08:47] <apparle> thanks people I will try it when home. I am doing all this to  put a simple hotkey based gui to a CLI dictionary
[08:47] <apparle> ActionParsnip: Me too
[08:47] <apparle> bye people
[08:47] <apparle> byebye
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> apparle, peace
[08:47] <apparle> thanks for all the help
[08:48] <tomahasamoot> does kubuntu use cron, anacron, or some other system?
[08:48] <tomahasamoot> I noticed that root doesn't have a crontab
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> tomahasamoot, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[08:48] <ardchoille> tomahasamoot: cron and anacron are both installed. And root won't have a crontab until you create one
[08:49] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: is which one is prefered on kubuntu systems?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> !cron | tomahasamoot
[08:50] <Ubotwo> tomahasamoot: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[08:50] <ardchoille> tomahasamoot: The "Description" in  man anacron  explains the differences
[08:51] <athena> hello...this is off topic, but i want to connect to another channel, but don't know how to configure my program to do so (it's from Ubuntu)...can anyone help?
[08:51] <athena> (i'm an IRC newbie)...i did find a web page on the channel...but don't know what to do with it
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> athena, try /join #<channel name>
[08:52] <magickal1>  /join #channel
[08:52] <athena> nobody there...go figure...but thanks!
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> athena, np :D
[08:53] <athena> where would i go for an open discussion of distro's (unfortunately Kubuntu doesn't work well for me...adept an me seem to have an allergy)
[08:54] <athena> oh...some people are there...thank you
[08:54] <ardchoille> athena: You can also use synaptic, it's a gui front-end to APT (like adept) and some folks like it better:  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> i only use apt
[09:04] <arturo> hey everybody i want compiz-fusion =s where download? =S
[09:05] <ardchoille> !compiz | arturo
[09:05] <Ubotwo> arturo: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[09:06] <arturo> =O
[09:24] <sebastian^> good morning folks :)
[09:27] <sigma_1234> !kmldonkey
[09:27] <Ubotwo> Factoid kmldonkey not found
[09:48] <jamii> hi, I'm having trouble turning off 3-button emulation
[09:48] <jamii> I've already deleted the 3-button line in xorg.conf but that doesnt seem to have an effect
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> jamii, did you restart x?
[09:49] <jamii> Yep
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> jamii, tried rebooting?
[09:49] <jamii> Several times - I'm debuggin an X driver
[09:49] <jamii> Will try rebooting
[09:49] <jamii> brb
[09:50] <irina> Hi all =)
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> hi irina
[09:51] <Jucato> !ping
[09:51] <ubotu> pong
[09:51] <Ubotwo> pong
[09:51] <irina> э..э...э........ русские есть? =)
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> irina, english please
[09:51] <ardchoille> !ru | irina
[09:51] <ubotu> irina: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[09:52] <irina> спасибо брат
[09:52] <ardchoille> irina: you're welcome :)
[09:53] <jamii> No luck. There doesnt seem to be anything in the KDE system settings either. I wonder where else it could be enabled?
[09:54] <irina> !ru | irina
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> jamii, i'm guessing you editted Option "Emulate3Buttons" "False" in mouse input section
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> jamii, in you xorg.conf
[09:55] <jamii> parsnip: Ah, no. I just deleted the line. Will try setting it to false.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> jamii, worth a go :). then restart x. i think removing it does thesame but its nice to be explicit
[09:58] <onishidato> hey guys, how can i save the setting in xterm??
[09:59] <jamii> parsnip: Didnt work. Humbug.
[09:59] <onishidato> is there anyone here??
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> jamii, darn
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> sup onishidato ?
[09:59] <onishidato> how can i save a setting in xterm??
[09:59] <jamii> parsnip, I'm going to go grab a USB mouse and see if its system wide.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, in what way?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> jamii, nice one
[10:00] <Jucato> xterm has settings?
[10:00] <onishidato> no not in xterm
[10:00] <onishidato> i mean
[10:01]  * ActionParsnip scratches his head
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/66 (?)
[10:01] <onishidato> i try to set up a program with xterm, but it always return to the old setup when i restart my PC
[10:02] <onishidato> that's my problem
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, is that what you mean?
[10:03] <onishidato> yeah
[10:03] <onishidato> :D
[10:04] <jamii> parsnip: its not on for the usb mouse, but it is on for my touchpad. So either its turned on for the touchscreen or the fpit driver is actually sending middle click. I'll have a fiddle with fpit and map middle to right.
[10:04] <onishidato> can you help me??
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> jamii, maybe its in bios?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, what do these xterm settings configure exactly?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, you need to edit ~/.Xresources
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1_____ENUK248&q=%7E%2F.Xresources&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[10:10] <onishidato> ok thanks Action
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, np
[10:10] <onishidato> let me check it
[10:11] <onishidato> :D
[10:13] <onishidato> how can i stop skim from working, it always automatic start even if i have closed it???
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, ps -ef | grep skim
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, kill the most left hand process number
[10:14] <onishidato> can you explain more??
[10:14] <onishidato> i don't know what to do:(
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, type the commands in konsole
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, it will show you the processes named skim
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> then you will kill them
[10:16] <athena> hi, i was on here earlier...i was told there was a way to put synaptic on instead of Adept (the main reason i don't use Kubuntu). My past efforts at this have failed putting me in dependency hell. I just reinstalled...can someone help me with this?
[10:17] <onishidato> how can i kill?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, kill <process id>
[10:17] <athena> gosh had me worried there for a sec (coming in on the middle of how do i kill?)
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> athena, just use sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, its the leftmost number
[10:18] <athena> i don't know how to use the apt system very well
[10:18] <athena> or what to put in...for the synaptic manager
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> athena, you dont need to :)
[10:18] <onishidato> 1000      6285  5584  0 17:17 pts/1    00:00:00 grep skim this is what i got
[10:18] <athena> so just go to the terminal and write that In?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, then its not running
[10:18] <athena> and i will get synaptic on the system
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> athena, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:19] <onishidato> but sometime it auto start without my permission
[10:19] <onishidato> :(
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, is there a symlink to it in ~/.kde/autostart ?
[10:20] <athena> ok, i'm doing this
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> athena, those commands will update your repository knowledges and thendownload any updates you may need
[10:21] <athena> so how does that get me the synaptic manager?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> athena, if you want to install software just type sudo apt-get install <program>
[10:21] <athena> is it in adept...because when i got it there before...i went into dependency hell
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> athena, sudo apt-get install synaptic when its done :)
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> athena, apt resolves deps for you :)
[10:21] <athena> hmm...wish i had known this a while ago (always learning)
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> athena, do you need updates by any chance?
[10:22] <athena> yes, i just installed.
[10:22] <athena> so it's taking it's time updating at the moment
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> athena, ok cool, get those then sudo apt-get install synaptic (if its not already installed)
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> athena, see how you go from there
[10:22] <athena> also i need to add some new repositories to get my system working (drivers and such)
[10:23] <jamii> parsnip: 3button seems to only be for the touchpad. I've fixed the touchscreen to send right clicks now. Thanks for the help
[10:23] <athena> ok thanks!
[10:23] <jamii> Now I just need to find out who the fpit maintainer is
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> athena, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> jamii, np dude, glad its somewhat better :)
[10:24] <Jucato> (there's also a nice GUI for that in Adept Manager, Adept menu -> Manage Repositories)
[10:25] <emilsedgh> Jucato: isnt there any plan to improve Adept's UI?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, i always hust edit the file
[10:25] <emilsedgh> Jucato: except Inkscape, i only miss Synaptic in kde :(
[10:25] <Jucato> emilsedgh: there are. mornfall is working on it again, and yuriy is helping him with it.. but mostly for kde4
[10:25] <emilsedgh> Jucato: YES!
[10:26] <emilsedgh> Jucato: better, who cares about kde3 anymore :P
[10:26]  * Jucato does
[10:26] <Jucato> and so will most of the KDE-using world :P
[10:26]  * ActionParsnip ActionParsnip does
[10:27] <Jucato> anyway, not sure if there will be anything in store for Adept in KDE 3...
[10:27] <Jucato> (most probably nothing entirely new)
[10:27] <Tm_T> emilsedgh: I do, I care about both of them
[10:27]  * emilsedgh doesnt, its stable, keep bug fixes for a few years and then leave it...
[10:28] <Jucato> bug fixes is part of caring
[10:28] <Tm_T> emilsedgh: aye, that's good if you can think that way, I can't ;)
[10:28] <Tm_T> Jucato: big part
[10:28] <bazhang> any word on what distro will be using the kde4 final release?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> I just wait for whatever updates I get.
[10:28] <Tm_T> bazhang: we?
[10:28] <Jucato> bazhang: any distro that will provide packages :)
[10:28] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: I just try to ruin all updates you get
[10:29] <bazhang> jucato Tm_T thanks!
[10:29]  * Tm_T hides
[10:29] <Jucato> Kubuntu, openSUSE, Fedora (they have a crazy plan), Debian, etc, etc, etc,
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, haha cheers :)
[10:29] <emilsedgh> Jucato: are you on kde4 now?
[10:29] <Jucato> nope
[10:29] <Athena18> well it will be a while before i find out who things work...updating will take 3 hours
[10:29] <Athena18> two sorry
[10:29] <Tm_T> emilsedgh: umm, why asking?
[10:29] <Athena18> i've heard horror stories about kde4....is it really non-customisable...or was that a bad rumour
[10:29] <_Shade_> alpha3 is about to take off today. When should i expect any announcement about it?
[10:29] <emilsedgh> Tm_T: just wanted to know, what about you?
[10:30]  * Jucato points Athena18 to Beineri's post: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174 for some "warnings"
[10:30] <Tm_T> Athena18: well it's not "ready" in that sense, but yes it has more customisation options than GNOME
[10:30] <Tm_T> emilsedgh: I have both KDE 3 and 4
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> due to it not being "ready" i will not be "upgrading"
[10:30]  * Jucato would love to put "KDE 4.0 != KDE 4" in the topic at some point...
[10:30] <Athena18> well...what i heard was you could only have one panel at the bottom...i love my three panels with my own icons!
[10:30] <Tm_T> Jucato: haha
[10:31]  * Jucato points ActionParsnip to the link as well
[10:31] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: I use them both, they don't rule each others out
[10:31] <Tm_T> anyway, this is slipping to chitchat
[10:32] <_3> speakin of kde 4... any good? worried about destroying my system.. unsure if its worth it compared to kde 3.5.8 .. .and how does it go with compiz??
[10:32] <Tm_T> _3: you don't need compiz with it, but yes you can have them both
[10:32] <emilsedgh> _3: its Stable now, but not that customizable.also a few applications are not ported yet and you should use 3.x version
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, I'm a very casual user. I'm not to bothered for prettys or stuff like that.Chat and browse, yeah I need the latest gumf
[10:32] <Athena18> thanks for the link...doesn't look as bad as i heard (or more like it will improve in all likelyhood
[10:32] <Jucato> _3: it's good as a point 0 release can be. why would it destroy your system. it has it's own fancy effects
[10:32] <onishidato> ActionParsnip: how can i know it?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, know what?
[10:33] <Athena18> but eventually it will be customizable with the 4.1
[10:33] <Athena18> ?
[10:33] <Jucato> Athena18: it *will* improve
[10:33] <Tm_T> Athena18: and more after it, and so on
[10:33] <onishidato> ActionParsnip: is there a auto start link?
[10:33] <Athena18> good, i was loathing giving up KDE...but i thought i might have to!
[10:34] <bazhang> best to head to #kde for these kind of questions?
[10:34] <ima-n00b> ok thanks (was _3 but it wasnt meant to be that nick)... i was meaning stabiltiy / apps ported / customisation wise
[10:34] <Athena18> and yes i knew it was more or less in BETA but still it sounded like a huge change
[10:34] <Jucato> Athena18: hopefully... remember, the current "customizable" version you are using is 3.5... that's 5 major releases after 3.0... so just imagine how much KDE 4 will progress as you go from 4.0 to 4.1 to 4.2 , etc
[10:34] <Athena18>  ok
[10:34] <ima-n00b> so all my questions were answered.. thanks :)
[10:34] <emilsedgh> 4.0 is so stable now, its no more 'Beta Quality'
[10:34] <Athena18> join channel #cc
[10:35] <Athena18> oops...how do i join another channel (still new to IRC)
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, if I just chat and browse and I'm not too fussd for prettys then I'm not getting KDE4 until its in repos and I accidentally pull it down with my automatic updates
[10:35] <onishidato> ActionParsnip: how can i know if there is a auto start link to my program??
[10:35] <bazhang> Athena18: /join #channelname
[10:35] <Athena18> thanks...!
[10:35] <mueslix> morning... i just tried to install the latest alpha and i noticed something rather weird (but absolutely reproducable): i have two nvidia cards in my system. after running the installer for a few minutes, suddenly all monitors go blank (and tell me that there's no signal)
[10:35] <bazhang> no worries :}
[10:36] <mueslix> it's not happening at some magic point during installing, but seems rather time-based
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, check ~/.kde/Autostart, there will be a symlink file in there
[10:36] <bazhang> mueslix: hardy?
[10:36] <mueslix> anyone ever experienced something similar
[10:36] <mueslix> yes
[10:36] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 mueslix
[10:36] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: yes, isn't it great to have choices ;)
[10:36] <ima-n00b> oh, i just realised another question... apps that are built for kde 3.. they wont have been ported yet (eg ktorrent, kvirc, smb4k)
[10:36] <mueslix> bazhang: i assumed it's a general issue, nothing kubuntu specific
[10:37] <Tm_T> ima-n00b: btw, KDE 4.0 isn't BETA
[10:37] <mueslix> i'm not looking for a magic fix (yet), i'm just wondering if anyone experienced something similar, maybe even with gutsy
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, yeah it is but i just want no viri / spyware system. I can do stuff with my system but when i get back from work I cant be bothered
[10:37] <mueslix> i did have similar issues once during the filesystem check at bootup. if the system doesn't load the nvidia drivers quickly enough the cards go haywire
[10:38] <ima-n00b> Tm_T: cool.. but i would still need kde3 to run kde3 apps under kde4 right?
[10:38] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: ok, now you lost me, but prolly wasn't anything important
[10:38] <Tm_T> ima-n00b: IIRC no
[10:38] <Tm_T> ima-n00b: or perhaps
[10:38] <Jucato> ima-n00b: you don't need a full kde 3 session for that
[10:38] <Jucato> ima-n00b: you can run kde 3 apps in a kde 4 session and vice versa
[10:39] <ima-n00b> oh.. ok.. that makes things easier... sort of lol
[10:40] <ima-n00b> hmm... may have a fun few days ahead of me... my kubuntu install isnt done by the traditional method... so it kinda takes longer
[10:40] <XBehave> is theyre a good program to see partition usage? and how can i empty my swap or atleast temporarily shift it to  a file!
[10:40] <onishidato> ActionParsnip: where can i find it??
[10:41] <ima-n00b> XBehave: in a terminal type df -h
[10:41] <emilsedgh> XBehave: free
[10:41] <Jucato> or Filelight
[10:41] <Jucato> emilsedgh: free is for memory usage though
[10:41] <emilsedgh> Jucato: oh sorry
[10:41] <emilsedgh> whats wrong with me today!
[10:42] <emilsedgh> XBehave: there is a kdiskfree application too, i think
[10:42] <XBehave> thx df -h is all i needed
[10:43] <ima-n00b> sorry to be a pain again... another one about kde4... are the names that you use to install the packages the same as kde3.. so for example to install kde4 base you type sudo apt-get install kdebase ???
[10:43] <Jucato> ima-n00b: mostly, except they'll have the number 4 (or 5 in the case of kdelibs)
[10:44] <ima-n00b> Jucato: ok.. thanks....
[10:45] <emilsedgh> Jucato: why kdelibs is 5?
[10:45] <Jucato> long story. Debian wackiness
[10:45] <emilsedgh> and why its 4 in kde3 series?
[10:45] <_Angelus_> guy,,,
[10:46] <_Angelus_> nsplugin is crashing on konqueror, and not working  on opera
[10:46] <_Angelus_> but firefox is ok...
[10:46] <_Angelus_> if i try to remove konq-nsplugin... it remove half of my system
[10:46] <_Angelus_> what am  i gonna do? :S format? :S
[10:48] <emilsedgh> _Angelus_: format? no, thats not an option
[10:50] <_Angelus_> ermmm ... ok emilsedgh,,, do you have another option? please? xD
[10:51] <emilsedgh> _Angelus_: no, but im sure formatting is not an option
[10:51] <_Angelus_> :/
[11:04] <_Angelus_> so no one has an answer for my troubles? :(
[11:05] <dhq> when i configure glibc why do i get this error checking the size of long double... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long double), 77
[11:19] <balachmar> how do I turn on the desktop effects in kubuntu? I am just trying out kde...
[11:22] <XBehave> can you resize an active pv?
[11:25] <gladier> hey guys - i need a hand getting a adaptec 2940 controller to run synchronously
[11:40] <waylandbill> hello. firefox can have settings locked using firefox.cfg. Is there similar functionality in Konqueror?
[11:43] <XBehave> is there a way to make the pannels above everything? i have a dropdown pannel but if i have an above all window i cant see it
[11:57] <stmartin> hi! I want to ask you, how to change directory (cd) to desktop on the terminal?
[11:58] <bazhang> cd ~/Desktop?
[12:01] <Exilant> Something seems to be wrong with my kdes handling of usb mass storage, sometimes they are mounted read-only, often two windows pop up from kde-daemon (gutsy with latest updates), anyone knows those problems?
[12:07] <waylandbill> is there a way to lock konqueror settings like firefox's firefox.cfg ?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[12:13] <Exilant> waylandbill: what do you mean, like chmod u-w ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konueror.rc?
[12:14] <Exilant> or just save it as a profile and being able to restore that?
[12:14] <spaci76> hi@ll
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> hi spaci76
[12:22] <waylandbill> Exilant: that's not a bad idea. Thanks.
[12:23] <_Shade_> where can i expect alpha3 announcement? It's about to take off today according to the release schedule
[12:23] <_Shade_> *where=when
[12:24] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 topic
[12:24] <waylandbill> Exilant: might even be able to change the user that owns the file to root to prevent possible chmod back to writabke
[12:57] <femi> yo dudes linux rocks
[12:57] <agm> my external hdd is not  working
[12:59] <agm> cant see it in fdisk -l
[12:59] <agm> not in lsusb
[13:00] <agm> anothing happens in var/log/messages
[13:01] <agm> even tried removing ehci_hcd
[13:06] <waylandbill> femi: preaching to the chior. ;-)
[13:24] <se7en> since 2 days on 2 different boxes i get Another window manager is already running on screen: 0 after compiz --replace ?????????????
[13:26] <stmartin> how to play subtitle (.sub file) in movie player?
[13:26] <Exilant> hm, maybe sth. in the updates was wrong, noticed my compiz doesn't work anymore either
[13:27] <dappermuis> stmartin, there's a way to do it with mplayer
[13:27] <dappermuis> just man mplayer and look for the part on subtitles
[13:28] <stmartin> how to download it?
[13:28] <dappermuis> sudo apt-get install gmplayer
[13:29] <Jucato> stmartin: I think there's a way to load Subtitles in Kaffeine (Player menu -> Subtitles)
[13:29] <Jucato> there's also kmplayer :)
[13:31] <stmartin> and gxine?
[13:32] <Jucato> Kaffeine uses Xine
[13:35] <stmartin> It gives me message to write xvinfo
[13:36] <stmartin> it tells me that my card doesn't support xv
[13:38] <posingaspopular> amarak also uses kaffeine
[13:40] <Jucato> posingaspopular: you mean amarok uses xine right? :D
[13:41] <posingaspopular> yea thats what i mean
[13:41] <posingaspopular> it's 7:45am over here, cut me some slack
[13:41] <Jucato> sorry, I don't use slackware :)
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> surely #slackware is advisable
[13:42] <Pici> !botsnack
[13:42] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[13:42]  * Jucato wonders if ActionParsnip is riding on the joke too... or just didn't get it :)
[13:43]  * ActionParsnip just got here :P
[13:43] <Jucato> then you didn't :P
[13:44] <posingaspopular> i said it was early over here, cut me some slack. Jucato doesn't use slackware ;p
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, nice one :D
[13:45] <stick> can enyone tell me how can i play mp3's in kubuntu ?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular, are you EST?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !amarok | stdin
[13:45] <ubotu> stdin: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.7 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !xmms | stick
[13:45] <ubotu> stick: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[13:46] <posingaspopular> ActionParsnip: central time
[13:46] <jpatrick> stick: ^^
[13:46] <stick> yes
[13:46] <Jucato> jpatrick: now you did it... triggering stdin :P
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> !mplayer | stick
[13:46] <ubotu> stick: mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove.  Amarok will ask you if you would like to add mp3 support and then install the libxine1-ffmpeg package
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> stick: or in konsole you can type sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[13:55] <stick> sry my net is crap
[13:56] <stick> enyway thx for help
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> stick, you got it nailed?
[14:02] <epssi> hello
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> lo epssi
[14:03] <stick> !codecs
[14:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:03] <posingaspopular> hi epssi
[14:03] <epssi> when i copy something from a usb stick or cd/dvd, the files have only read permissions on my computer by default. how can i change this?
[14:03] <stick> !mp3
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> stick: in konsole you can type sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> stick: that will give you mp3 codec
[14:04] <stick> thank oyu
[14:04] <stick> you
[14:04] <stmartin> why I have "vesa" driver?
[14:05] <TuxOtaku> !KDE4
[14:05] <TuxOtaku> hmm
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> stick: all playing now?
[14:05] <ubotu> kde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[14:05] <TuxOtaku> KDE 4 is supposed to be officially released tomorrow, right?
[14:05] <Tm_T> TuxOtaku: and?
[14:06] <stick> sudo apt-get install libxine1 -ffmpeg
[14:06] <posingaspopular> yes TuxOtaku
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> stick libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:06] <stick> nothing happend
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> stick:all one word
[14:06] <TuxOtaku> will it be available from the kubuntu repos tomorrow?
[14:06] <Tm_T> TuxOtaku: perhaps, should but who knows for sure
[14:07] <stick> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> stick: yes
[14:07] <Tm_T> TuxOtaku: I believe http://www.kubuntu.org will have info in the front page when they are available
[14:07] <Tm_T> TuxOtaku: also it will be mentioned in the channel topic here
[14:07] <stmartin> how to change the driver from vesa to nvidia?
[14:07] <zero1> hi guys, anyone ever experience laptop resuming after hibernate, then just before you unlock the desktop it hibernates again?
[14:07] <stick> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | stmartin
[14:08] <ubotu> stmartin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:08] <stick> nothing
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> stick, what message do you get?
[14:09] <stick> that command it doesen't do nothing
[14:09] <stick> but guys ...i have Kubuntu ..all documentation that you gived me is for Ubuntu
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> stick: so you type it in a console? Like a "DOS Prompt" window
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> stick: apt is the same for all the buntus as well as any other distro using apt
[14:10] <stick> i don't have some application taht ubuntu have ..at least i didn't find them
[14:10] <stick> oo
[14:10] <zero1> hi guys, anyone ever experienced laptop resuming after hibernate, then just before you unlock the desktop it hibernates again?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> stick: i'd do a sudo apt-get update first too
[14:12] <stick> thx for you'r pacients(hope i'v speel it right) ActionParsnip
[14:12] <stick> i'm from romania ...i understand english ...but my rightin ...:)
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> stick np man
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> stick: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> stick: you getting a tonne of updates now?
[14:16] <stick> sudo apt-get install libxinel1-ffmpeg
[14:16] <stick> Reading package lists... Done
[14:16] <stick> Building dependency tree
[14:16] <stick> Reading state information... Done
[14:16] <stick> E: Couldn't find package libxinel1-ffmpeg
[14:16] <stick> sry for flood
[14:17] <stmartin> why my driver is "vesa"?
[14:17] <llutz>  libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:17] <Bauldrick> are there any decent visualizations for amarok ?
[14:17] <zero1> has anyone experienced a laptop that immediately Hibernates  after Resume finishes???
[14:17] <stmartin> !vesa
[14:17] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[14:17] <solussd> vesa is 'default'
[14:17] <stmartin> !x
[14:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:17] <stmartin> I have nvidia driver
[14:17] <Jucato> stmartin: it's the default open source driver if your card wasn't detected properly
[14:17] <stmartin> I have nvidia card*
[14:17] <solussd> download it using the restricted driver installer
[14:17] <Bauldrick> and I still can't get the track info for cd's with amarok
[14:17] <Jucato> stmartin: then you can use either the open source driver (nv) o ruse restricted manager to get the binary nvidia driver
[14:17] <stick> i'v runed the comand fosr updates....and ...
[14:18] <stmartin> I have the nvidia-glx
[14:18] <stmartin> installed
[14:18] <llutz> stick that package is named "libxine1-ffmpeg" not libxinel1...
[14:18] <stmartin> In Synaptic Package Manager
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> stick, cool that will make sure your system is fully updates
[14:18] <tzd> hi, I would like to know if i need to install any packages on Kubuntu Gutsy to be able to sync Korganizer and my mobile phone (Sony Ericsson k750) please?
[14:19] <Jucato> stmartin: have you tried using the Restricted (Devices) Manager? System Settings -> Advanced tab
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> tzd: http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/07/syncing-mobile-phone-and-kontact-via.html
[14:19] <zero1> has anyone experienced a laptop that immediately Hibernates  after Resume finishes???
[14:20] <stick> damn ..i have big lag
[14:20] <stick> do i need to have the cd with kubuntu n the cd-rom
[14:20] <stick> ?
[14:20] <llutz> stick: you just have to spell it right
[14:21] <tzd> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[14:21] <stmartin> why I get this message from mplayer "no Xvideo support for your video card available"?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> stmartin,http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356128
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> stmartin, did you google any?
[14:22] <stmartin> yes
[14:22] <stmartin> but I didn't find it
[14:22] <stick> what i whanted to know is ...where do i get the updates form...from internet or from the instalation cd of kubuntu
[14:22] <llutz> stick: internet
[14:23] <stick> i'm not reciving any updates from the internet
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> stick: the repositories online
[14:23] <Jucato> stick: then your cdrom repository is still probably enabled, blocking the internet repositories
[14:23] <Bauldrick> g#
[14:23] <stick> sudo apt-get update
[14:23] <stick> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/main Translation-en_US
[14:23] <stick> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_US
[14:23] <stick> Reading package lists... Done
[14:24] <stick> that's all that it does
[14:24] <stick> nothing more ...
[14:25] <stick> i saw cdrom:// ...... that's why i'v ask if i need the origina cd
[14:26] <posingaspopular> !paste | stick
[14:26] <ubotu> stick: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:27] <stick> opz ...did i do something bad ?
[14:27] <Jucato> stick: in Adept Manager, go to Adept menu -> Manage Repositories -> Third-party software tab -> uncheck the cdrom line
[14:27] <tzd> just a simple question; if i have a packet installed already and get it once again with the command: "sudo apt-get install packetname" what will happen? Will i mess something up or will the system recognize it's already installed and automatically not install it?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> tzd: it will seethe existing one
[14:28] <Jucato> tzd: it will say it's installed
[14:28] <tzd> ActionParsnip: great, cheers!
[14:28] <tzd> thx Jucato ;)
[14:29] <posingaspopular> tzd: yea what Jucato said. it's okay. it wont break anything.
[14:29] <tzd> posingaspopular: Right thanks mate :)
[14:31] <stick> ok i'v done that
[14:35] <stick>  sudo apt-get update
[14:35] <stick> Get:1 http://archive.canonical.com gutsy Release.gpg [191B]
[14:35] <stick> Hit http://archive.canonical.com gutsy Release
[14:35] <stick> Hit http://archive.canonical.com gutsy/partner Sources
[14:35] <stick> Fetched 1B in 16s (0B/s)
[14:35] <stick> Reading package lists... Done
[14:36] <posingaspopular> !paste
[14:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:36] <stick> so...what now ?
[14:38] <stmartin> I did everything and my drivers are still vesa
[14:38] <stmartin> should I change them manually in nvidia?
[14:38] <Bauldrick> stick: sudo apt-get upgrade       ......   but what are you trying to do?
[14:41] <stick> if i write ...sudo apt-get udate libxinel1-ffmpeg....will it update the mp3 codec ??
[14:42] <Bauldrick> apt-get install libxinel1-ffmpeg
[14:42] <stmartin> When I get in device manager, my nvidia card is unknown?
[14:43] <stick> Couldn't find package libxinel1-ffmpeg
[14:44] <epssi> when i copy something from a usb stick or cd/dvd, the files have only read permissions on my computer by default. how can i change this?
[14:44] <Bauldrick> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:44] <Bauldrick> spelling
[14:46] <stick> Package libxine1-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:46] <stick> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[14:46] <stick> is only available from another source
[14:46] <stick> E: Package libxine1-ffmpeg has no installation candidate
[14:46] <Darktan_> are there any programs for accessing a palm pilot for linux?
[14:47] <stick> i thik i'm cursed
[14:47] <stick> :))
[14:48] <Athena18> hi
[14:48] <Darktan_> hi
[14:48] <stick> so the pckage is not available...now what do i do
[14:48] <stick> hy
[14:48] <Athena18> I've been told i can put synaptic in as my software manager...
[14:48] <Athena18> me and adept have an allergy
[14:48] <Athena18> i've finally updated everything...now how do i get it on? just go into adept and download it?
 how are you cursed?
[14:50] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[14:50] <bazhang> !info synaptic
[14:50] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 1280 kB, installed size 5932 kB
[14:50] <Darktan_> crap, i was just gonna say that
[14:50] <stick> look above ...what it told me about xinel
[14:51] <stick> tha package is not available
[14:51] <Athena18> before i came on...so i just do that...and it will be my package manager after that (can i get rid of adept...so synaptic will take care of updates and such?
[14:53] <Athena18> xine...you might need to be in the non free repositories...they are legal outside the US (generally) but not always in (because of Microsoft patent)
[14:53] <Athena18> just like PGP
[14:53] <stick> enyway i'm noob ..in kubuntu at least ....maby i did somethig wrong ...i don't know
[14:54] <Athena18> i'm used to KDE, just not Kubuntu...what is the problem
[14:54] <Athena18> (been using it for over a year...year and half at least)
[14:54] <bazhang> stick: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[14:54] <stick> i whant to play mp3 and movies ....
[14:55] <stick> if i knew how ...
[14:55] <Athena18> you need to add non-free repositories...ubuntu doesn't like them...they need to be added manually
[14:55] <bazhang> stick: please answer my question if you want help
[14:55] <Athena18> mp3 is not *legal* on linux per say
[14:55] <Athena18> (depends on country again)
[14:55] <Tm_T> Athena18: depends also who says it
[14:55] <stick> i don't know how to install enything man ...i just told you i'm noob...
[14:56] <bazhang> stick: are you needing assistance or not?
[14:56] <Athena18> so it isn't free...do you have the universe and multiuniverse repositories turned on?
 yes i agree...
[14:56] <Tm_T> !mp3 | stick
[14:56] <ubotu> stick: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:56] <Athena18> that's the robot isn't it?
[14:56] <stick> tm_t
[14:56] <bazhang> yea Athena18
[14:57] <stick> what i't write on thows sitet i't doesent help me
[14:57] <Athena18> there ARE ubuntu directories for it (haven't been in ubuntu for a while but i know they are there). Alternatively...older MEPIS one's might be compatible (before 7.0 we used ubuntu repositories)
[14:57] <Athena18> do you know how to ADD a repository?
[14:58] <Tm_T> stick: how it didn't help?
[14:58] <bazhang> stick: if you need assistance you need to answer questions or do some reading--saying I am a noob will not help you solve your problem
[14:58] <stick> because ///first i dont have other player beside Amrok...and there it speaks o Xinel
[14:58] <stick> no i don't
[14:58] <Tm_T> stick: Amarok uses Xine
[14:58] <Jucato> it's xine, not xinel :)
[14:59] <bazhang> :}
[14:59] <Athena18> it speaks other languages...as well...likely those are installed just not the one's for MP# (try putting a CD in and you'll see)
[14:59] <stick> oky my mistake
[14:59] <Tm_T> please kids, try be helpful ;)
[14:59] <bazhang> Tm_T: sorry
[15:00] <Jucato> Tm_T: I have to emphasize that because earlier he entered libxinel1-ffmpeg, which gave him errors
[15:00] <Jucato> just making sure that if he types a command or a package, it will be the correct one
[15:00] <Tm_T> Jucato: uuh, that sounds fun then
[15:00] <stick> look man ...i'm from romania ..i understand english but my righting is bad ...if you whant to help me ..ok ...if you whant to joke on me ..that's something else
[15:00] <Tm_T> stick: we all are here to help
[15:00] <bazhang> yes stick
[15:01] <Athena18> my written french is terrible...but it CAN be read...i can understand your english
[15:01] <stick> ok...i understant that it is very hard for you to help me ..in specialy i don;t understand al the terms that you use
[15:01] <Jucato> stick: your english is fine. but the command line is less forgiving. a single wrong letter can make a big difference. which is how you got an error earlier
[15:02] <Athena18> i've had my own frustrations with media...trying to get Kaffeine working can be hard...
[15:02] <Athena18> (if you want it to do everything)
[15:02] <Bauldrick> stick: tried ... sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:02] <stick> ok..than i'v writet ok ..an it saind the package is not available
[15:02] <stick> no that i did'n tryed
[15:02] <stick> just a sec
[15:02] <Tm_T> Athena18: does "all" here :/
[15:03] <Captain_Haddock> Even though my integrated audio is detected as  nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2), my kMix is empty and the tray icon has a glaring x on it. Any idea why?
[15:03] <stick> Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
 i'm a Cannuck...maybe we write different...then again maybe we don't!
[15:04] <epssi> stick: open "add/remove programs" from the K-menu and install "kubuntu restricted extras"
[15:04] <Athena18> cut and paste it into your command line stick...it worked for me (i'm still setting up my system and want the same stuff)
[15:04] <Jucato> I don'tthink has the proper repositories enabled yet...
[15:04] <Captain_Haddock> Athena18: I think there's only a "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[15:04] <Captain_Haddock> and a xubuntu, not a kubuntu
[15:04]  * Jucato teaches Athena18 the joys of autocompleting nicknames using Tab
[15:04] <Captain_Haddock> not sure
[15:04] <Jucato> Captain_Haddock: there's a kubuntu
[15:04] <Captain_Haddock> ok
[15:04] <bazhang> Captain_Haddock: there is a kubuntu as well
[15:05] <Athena18> oh, i AM still learning IRC...i don't even know how to talk to someone particularly (i was just typing)
[15:05] <Athena18> only recently registered my nick
[15:05] <Jucato> now you know how :)
[15:05]  * Captain_Haddock confirms - there is :P
[15:05] <Jucato> !tab | Athena18
[15:05] <ubotu> Athena18: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[15:06] <Athena18> captain haddock is this working?
[15:06] <Athena18> nope
[15:06] <Athena18> This is what I'll be learning Stick
[15:06] <epssi> stick: if you cannot find this package, you need to open "edit software sources" in the "add/remove programs" window, and enable "restricted" and "multiverse"
[15:06] <posingaspopular> Athena18: you'll pick it up soon enough
[15:06] <bazhang> Athena18: type the first few letters then hit tab for the nick
[15:06] <Athena18> i figure i will
[15:07] <Athena18> just be tolerant!
[15:07]  * Jucato points Athena18 to bazhang's instructions :)
[15:07] <Athena18> i'll go read the instructions...just not this early in the morning...i've cut and pasted the address
[15:07] <Tm_T> epsis_poissa: noooooo
[15:07] <Captain_Haddock> any ideas on my sound issues?
[15:07] <stick> aham
[15:08] <Tm_T> epsis_poissa: ei awaynickejä kiitos
[15:08] <Jucato> gah! I just remembered I need to fix that in add/remove...
[15:08] <Athena18> printers can be a killer...it took me 10 days to get mine working on my old system (i think it will be quicker here...the problem was that the normal drivers had to be gotten rid of because it was multipurpose!)
[15:09] <Athena18> but then i'm slow on that type of stuff
[15:09] <Athena18> don't think my speakers are working yet either
[15:10] <Athena18> ok i put in those exact commands for the different repositories...it asked me for my original CD...what does it need off there (it isn't saying...)
[15:11] <Athena18> (hold on looks like it's found it...still that is a quirky way of doing things!)
[15:11] <Athena18> stick 1. have you tried cutting and pasting the original command and 2. do you still have your CD?
[15:11] <combinio> hi, do u know maybe how to connect router under linux ?
[15:12] <Athena18> no idea...don't use one
[15:12] <Athena18> hello combinio
[15:12] <combinio> Athena18: heeeeeeeeello :))
[15:13] <stick> ok...i'v done the edit souces ...but the thing is i can't install enythig because they are deactivated ...the appear in gray to me..the rest of that application(i have them allready ) i can olny uninstall them
[15:13] <Athena18> I'm back...Adept drove me nuts again...but people explained there WAS a way to use Synaptic in KUbuntu (which was what i did with my old distro, but it had other features so i wanted to try moving on)
[15:14] <Athena18> but you know i wanted to move...
[15:14] <jussi01> Athena18: just install synaptic... I have that at work...
[15:14] <tuxick> amazing, so many different interfaces to the same thing
[15:14] <tuxick> and they all suck in their own way
[15:14] <Athena18> that's what i'm doing...when i did it in the past through adept i ended up in dependency hell and the whole system broke down
[15:15] <Athena18> yes, kubuntu is slow...i'm looking for two distro's...this being my slow one but easy to use (mostly)
[15:15] <jussi01> Athena18: ok, so install it from the command line, sudo aptitude install synaptic
[15:15] <Athena18> Freespire actually has FIREFOX set up to CRASH if you use the adblock!
[15:15] <Athena18> every time i used adblock it crashed...otherwise it was fine!
[15:15] <Athena18> talk about gall
[15:15]  * Tm_T has everything running fine and fast
[15:15] <SkyblastAtWork> Kubuntu is slow?
[15:15] <SkyblastAtWork> News to me.
[15:16] <Athena18> i have an older machine...yes for me it is slow.
[15:16] <bazhang> SkyblastAtWork: not really no
[15:16] <ibou> i have a problem with th function copy/paste. Its only copying the texte i copyed first but doesnt care about the texte i copyed after.
[15:16] <Tm_T> !ot | FYI
[15:16] <ubotu> FYI: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[15:16] <ibou> help please
[15:16] <tuxick> Athena18: don't run kde on old machines
[15:16] <tuxick> unless you add ram
[15:16] <Athena18> I have a half gig of ram
[15:16] <tuxick> that should do
[15:16] <Tm_T> tuxick: no FUD there
[15:16] <SkyblastAtWork> I have half a gig her on my work box
[15:16] <Athena18> i tried using an xfce system....and well it was confusing
[15:16] <SkyblastAtWork> 1.7GHz Celeron... crappy machine, but it works fine
[15:16] <SkyblastAtWork> It's no demon, but neither is gnome on it
[15:17] <tuxick> Tm_T: it's realistic, kde is heavier than a simple windowmanager like WM
[15:17] <Athena18> this isn't bad, slow is relative...much faster than windows...I"m a p3 933mh gal
[15:17] <jussi01> Athena18: ok, cool. have you installed synaptic now?
[15:17] <Tm_T> tuxick: I know, but still it's FUD
[15:17] <tuxick> not intended as such
[15:17] <Athena18> the machine is still putting on all sorts of stuff...although synaptic is on it's way
[15:17] <Tm_T> tuxick: I'm long time WM user
[15:17] <Athena18> WM?
[15:17] <tuxick> then you know the difference ;)
[15:17] <tuxick> windowmaker
[15:17] <jussi01> Athena18: :)
[15:18] <Athena18> (i'm still looking for a second distro?)
[15:18] <Tm_T> tuxick: I do, and KDE runs just fine even with 64 MB ram
[15:18] <jussi01> !ot
[15:18] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[15:18] <stick> ok...i'v done the edit souces ...but the thing is i can't install enythig because they are deactivated ...the appear in gray to me..the rest of that application(i have them allready ) i can olny uninstall them
[15:18] <Tm_T> jussi01: krhm
[15:18] <tzd> !sync
[15:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:18] <tzd> !bluetooth
[15:18] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[15:18] <tuxick> Tm_T: that's UNFUD :)
[15:18] <Athena18> UNFUD?
[15:18] <tuxick> dunno what to call it
[15:19] <stick> so ...can enyone tell me why i can't install eny program beside the ones i have ?
[15:19] <Athena18> KDE is much faster than any comparable MS product...it's more a matter of what you are willing to accept
[15:19] <tuxick> Athena18: maybe you have kde configured with all bells and whistles on?
[15:19] <Athena18> have you tried seeing if you have a problem with your repositories generally stick...guys what is the apt for checking your system generally?
[15:19] <stick> ha ?
 actually not very many, that is why it runs ok...i just like the feel of it being real fast!
[15:20] <tuxick> how fast is CPU?
[15:20] <Athena18> 933
[15:20] <tuxick> and which part is slow anyway?
[15:20] <jussi01> stick: could you repeat your problem exactly for me?
[15:20] <Athena18> someone told it to me yesterday...i needed to use it to update my system...could be causing the problem stick
[15:20] <Tm_T> Athena18: tuxick: like to join #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[15:21]  * genii puts on a pot of coffee
[15:21] <stick> so ...i'v runed add/reomve programs....
[15:21]  * posingaspopular puts on a cup of genii
[15:21] <Athena18> joined
[15:21] <bazhang> he cant play mp3 with amarok jussi01; needs to add kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:21] <genii> posingaspopular: Hiya :)
[15:22] <stick> the window appears..in left with the categories ...accesibilitis ..development ...and so on....
[15:22] <Jucato> actually I think he needs proper repos...
[15:22] <bazhang> that too
[15:22]  * Jucato is a bit too tired to think how to go about this though :(
[15:23] <stick> for example i go to system...i have the list with the programs
[15:23] <Athena18> are you in the terminal stick?
[15:23] <Athena18> where you can only type in letters and numbers nothing to click
[15:23] <jussi01> stick: follow these instructions exactly. go to kmenu -> system -> adept manager -> adept menu -> manage repositories and then make sure all the boxes are ticked
[15:25] <stick> it begin to dnload something
[15:26] <jussi01> stick: and so it should
[15:27] <jussi01> stick: when its done, search for kubuntu-restricted-extras in the adept that you have open, then click it, click install, then click apply
[15:27] <stick> now i'm upgrading distribution
[15:27] <stick> to 7.10
[15:29] <stick> right on ...mi programs are finely activated ..i can install them
[15:29] <stick> ok...now i must install kubuntu restricted extras no ?
[15:30] <jussi01> yes, with the -'s
[15:31] <stick> with what ?
[15:32] <stick> man this si osome ...so many programs
[15:32] <stick> :D
[15:33] <jussi01> stick: thats why the search is there
[15:34] <stick> ies...i'v write xine...but it's deactivavted
[15:35] <jussi01> stick: did you find kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[15:35] <stick> i can't install it ...shoul i run the command now ....sudo apt-get
[15:35] <stick> yes ...al the other programs are activated now ..beside Xine
[15:36] <jussi01> stick:in kmenu->> system -> konsole type: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:37] <stick> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:37] <jussi01> stick: close adept
[15:37] <jussi01> then try again
[15:38] <stick> right on ...love du
[15:38] <jussi01> stick: its installing now?
[15:38] <stick> yup...
[15:38] <stick> :D
[15:38] <stick> thank you very much
[15:39] <jussi01> stick: excellent. come back if you have any other issues :D
[15:39] <jussi01> no probs
[15:39] <stick> oky doki
[15:39] <stick> hop i wasn't a pain in the ...ss
[15:39] <jussi01> !stupid | stick
[15:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stupid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:39] <jussi01> grr
[15:39] <stick> =))
[15:39] <jussi01> stick: there are no stupid questions ;)
[15:40] <stick> yeah...only stupid people
[15:40] <jussi01> !dumb | stick
[15:40] <stick> =))
[15:40] <ubotu> stick: The only dumb or stupid question is the one not asked. Please do not tell people off for asking something, just because it seems simple or obvious -- we discourage this attitude in all our channels.
[15:40] <jussi01> :)
[15:40] <stick> very nice
[15:41] <Captain_Haddock> Is there a recommended way to force Linux to redetect my hardware?
[15:41] <stick> whell i'm only at the begining of a long jurny
[15:41] <jussi01> Captain_Haddock: which hardware in particular?
[15:41] <Captain_Haddock> my sound card mainly
[15:42] <Captain_Haddock> I moved a Gutsy hard drive from one machine to another.
[15:43] <Captain_Haddock> The sound card was previously detected fine on a fresh gutsy install.
[15:44] <jussi01> Captain_Haddock: Im not certain of the proceedure there but i suspect it will include modprobing the new module for the card
[15:44] <Captain_Haddock> Actually, the (integrated) card is being detected fine, I believe. KMix just doesn't detect it, nor do I get any sound.
[15:47] <Captain_Haddock> aplay -l gives "aplay: device_list:204: no soundcards found..."
[15:47] <jussi01> Captain_Haddock: have you looked under system settings - sound system - hardware tab?
[15:48] <jussi01> Captain_Haddock: what kind of s/c is it btw?
[15:48] <Captain_Haddock> jussi01: it's set to autodetect - there's no mention of my hardware though.
[15:48] <Captain_Haddock> 20:00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[15:48] <Captain_Haddock> jussi01: ^
[15:49] <jussi01> Captain_Haddock: hmmm, I think that was one of the intel hda problematic ones, have a look at
[15:49] <jussi01> !intelhda
[15:49] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[15:49] <jussi01> but check for sure, i cant remember for certain
[15:49] <Captain_Haddock> jussi01: Looking. This is an AMD board though.
[15:50] <jussi01> Captain_Haddock: ahh... maybe no then...
[15:50] <Captain_Haddock> jussi01: what would I modprobe?
[15:51] <stick> he he ...i'm listening mp3'd thank's a lot guys!
[15:51] <jussi01> Captain_Haddock: you need to find out the appropriate module for it, but I am by no means certain that will fix it
[15:51] <jussi01> stick: great to hear :D
[15:52] <Captain_Haddock> jussi01: any idea how to go about finding the associated module?
[15:52] <Captain_Haddock> !modprobe
[15:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> Captain_Haddock: one moment.... I have an nvidia desktop.
[15:52] <jussi01> Captain_Haddock: juust having a look
[15:52] <Captain_Haddock> thanks jussi01, nosrednaekim
[15:53] <thewhitepelican> where can I find the md5sum for gutsyy?
[15:54] <jussi01> thewhitepelican: here: http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/
[15:54] <thewhitepelican> ty
[15:55] <nosrednaekim> Captain_Haddock: the module is called snd_intel8x0
[15:56] <Captain_Haddock> nosrednaekim: this is a Gigabyte amd board :(
[15:56] <nosrednaekim> Captain_Haddock: AND.. take a look at "lshw" to see if your sound device already has a an accosiaced driver
[15:56] <nosrednaekim> Captain_Haddock: yes, I know, but thats what my AMD/nvidia desktop uses for the kernel module,
[15:57] <nosrednaekim> my AMD/ATI laptop actually uses the hda_intel driver so don't let the name bother you
[15:59] <Captain_Haddock> nosrednaekim: thanks. lshw gives the following output for audio: http://pastebin.com/m242e1d43
[15:59] <wraithmagi> here's one u guys probably haven't heard in a while....
[16:00] <wraithmagi> I have an old zip 100 usb drive that I'm trying to create a bootable disk from...
[16:01] <nosrednaekim> Captain_Haddock: ok, run "sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0"
[16:01] <wraithmagi> I don't have a win 95/Me box and the norton zip tool won't rune under wine.
[16:01] <wraithmagi> any ideas how to create a bootable zip 100 disk?
[16:01] <Captain_Haddock> nosrednaekim: does the unclaimed imply that there's no associated driver?
[16:02] <nosrednaekim> Captain_Haddock: yeah
[16:03] <genii> wraithmagi: I have done that, but was able in my bios to make the zip drive appear as a hd and not a floppy
[16:04] <genii> wraithmagi: Otherwise you may want to format it as a bootable dos disk and then use syslinux on it
[16:04] <wraithmagi> genii:  The box I need to boot from zip has an internal zip250 in a modular bay... it's an older lappy.
[16:05] <wraithmagi> genii: ok... how to format as bootable dos?  Norton rescue won't work with wine and I've got XP on my other 2 boxes?