[13:28] <n8tuser> mrXX use of ip command or ifconfig
[13:28] <DrRobinTosh> ok, this is what i run to try and get shorewall
[13:28] <DrRobinTosh> sudo aptitude install shorewall
[13:28] <ardchoille> DrRobinTosh: No offense, but it sounds like  you are attempting to go from step 1 to step 9 as far as Linux goes. I feel you need to start with something more basic and work your way up as you learn.
[13:28] <llutz> ardchoille: it isn't respectful at all to connect servers like that to the internet. it affects lot's of other net-users (sry for OT)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> DrRobinTosh: i think that will stop the blanking
[13:29] <DrRobinTosh> ardchoille, none taken
[13:29] <n8tuser> mrXX i misread.. try  sudo ifdown eth1;  sudo ifup eth1
[13:29] <slnr> n8user if I do startx -l I get a blank screen
[13:29] <mrXX> n8tuser i have wireless
[13:29] <slnr> so how to restore my desktop
[13:30] <n8tuser> mrXX anymore info you want to divulge? or i have to pull it from you like a dentist does?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> slnr: uninstall the vga driver you just installed
[13:30] <mrXX> n8user peace brother!
[13:30] <BigDave> well boring presentation
[13:30] <BigDave> its on presentations
[13:30] <mrXX> i thought these chat rooms were for help
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> console blanking --->> setterm -blank 0 -powersave off -powerdown 0
[13:30] <b3rz3rk3r> lol
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-disable-screen-blanking-screen-going-blank.html
[13:30] <n8tuser> mrXX giving us tidbits of info, does not help.. provide as much as you can so we can asssist
[13:31] <slnr> I was trying to install linphone in /usr directory yesterday and it screwed up my desktop
[13:31] <init[1]> mrXX:http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[13:31] <n8tuser> slnr -> you dont install  on the /usr directly normally
[13:31] <slnr> When u just rebooted it has shut down my desktop and entering into a console prompt
[13:31] <DrRobinTosh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328470/
[13:31] <slnr> yes
[13:31] <slnr> I did a mistake
[13:32] <DrRobinTosh> thats what i get when runing "sudo aptitude install shorewal"
[13:32] <slnr> But now how to recover my desktop files back
[13:32] <mrXX> n8tuser ok, i will try, i m using wireless and i have no access to the router, i dont even know what router ther is. So can i ask for a new ip address for my wireless conncetion?
[13:32] <Peter1> What would I write in my script to store the pid of a process that same script started, and then kill it?
[13:32] <slnr> what re the steps
[13:32] <n8tuser> slnr you may as well re-install, attempting to recover /usr  is a hair-losing proposition
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  the problem is it shows no problem?
[13:32] <ardchoille> Peter1: you might ask in #bash
[13:32] <DrRobinTosh> whats next then?
[13:32] <n8tuser> mrXX no access to your router?  is it really yours or the neighboors?
[13:32] <Peter1> ardchoille: k ty
[13:32] <slnr> my /usr is there. I am not recovering /usr
[13:32] <DrRobinTosh> theres no shorewall-common
[13:32] <slnr> I am trying to recover my desktop
[13:32] <mrXX> n8tuser it is of my company,
[13:33] <slnr> what should I try now
[13:33] <mrXX> n8tuser i mean i dont have the pass for the router
[13:33] <mrXX> n8tuser but can i renew my ip still?
[13:33] <n8tuser> mrXX you have tried to ask your IT support for these info? am assuming to just access AP without a permission is now considered illegal eh?
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> !info shorewall-commin
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> !info shorewall-common
[13:33] <shutz`> mrXX: Isn't it a blanco pass?
[13:33] <shutz`> and username admin
[13:34] <n8tuser> mrXX btw, if its broadcasting the ssid,  try  like  sudo iwconfig wlan0 scan
[13:34] <pepijn_> is there any solution yet to having to remove the search line from grub.cfg?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:   apt-cache search shorewall
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  that shows the given packages that match. theres some tools in there you may want to use,
[13:34] <n8tuser> mrXX you ought to detect which AP are nearby and lash on to it, assuming you have the permission
[13:34] <mrXX> shutz` is it possible to know the ip of my router ?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  have you even tried the ubuntu specific firewall tools yet?
[13:35] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/328472/
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | DrRobinTosh
[13:35] <DrRobinTosh> thats what it shows
[13:35] <pepijn_> my gf's laptop won't boot up everytime the kernel or grub is updated (karmic) and I have to manually edit grub.cfg and remove the search line.. after that it works fine
[13:35] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: i am following http://paste.ubuntu.com/328472/
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  yes.. thats the list of all pacakges taht  have shorewall in their names/desc
[13:35] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: where do i find them
[13:36] <mrXX> n8tuser my ubuntu says unknown command scan
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  sudo apt-get install shorewall-common
[13:36] <n8tuser> mrXX you proly dont even have wlan0 or the driver for it is not loaded
[13:36] <Enissay> I've many folders a.b.c,..... , and I want to make an archive to each: a.zip b.zip ... how can i do that with a single command?
[13:36] <llutz> mrXX: iwlist s
[13:36] <DrRobinTosh> done
[13:37] <mrXX> n8tuser iwlist s did it
[13:37] <n8tuser> mrXX and yes my typo, it is iwlist wlan0 scan
[13:37] <grawity> Enissay: What are their actual names? They're really named "a" and "b" and "c"?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Enissay:  proper use of the find command can do that.. but its not going to be a simple command. :) id have to rember the syntax..
[13:37] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: you work wonders :P
[13:37] <n8tuser> i have not have a cup of coffee yet.. lol
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  I learned the basics of Ubuntu.
[13:37] <grawity> Enissay: for dir in {a..z}; do zip -r "${dir}.zip" "$dir"; done
[13:37] <Enissay> grawity, nope, really differents names
[13:38]  * DrRobinTosh Throws n8tuser a can of His energy drink
[13:38] <grawity> Enissay: Then use my example, but instead of {a..z} type all the names, I guess.
[13:38] <mrXX> n8tuser what next, i can see the ESSID, encryption off... and other info
[13:38] <Briareos1> how can i ensure that ALT+TAB works to get out of rdesktop windows?
[13:38] <llutz> Enissay: find . -type d .... -exec zip ....
[13:38] <n8tuser> mrXX you select among the AP that you are permitted to access
[13:38] <grawity> Enissay: Or... maybe find -maxdepth 1 -type d -exec zip -r {}.zip {} \;
[13:39] <mrXX> n8tuser how do i know what are the access points?
[13:39] <Panda^^> Hello. What music program can I use to synchronise a iPod nano? I tried Banshee, but it doesn't find my iPod :(
[13:39] <n8tuser> mrXX from that scan list,  read the results please
[13:39] <sybariten> Dr_Willis: about my question 1hr ago.... it _is_ working good, its just that i was hoping to use a certain irc client (weechat) ... but the supported version of that one is not in the LTS
[13:39] <grawity> Panda^^: gtkpod maybe?
[13:39] <ardchoille> Panda^^: I use rythmbox for that
[13:40] <Younder> ardchoille, a python program
[13:40] <ardchoille> Younder: ?
[13:40] <Panda^^> Hm I cant find a synchronise option in rytmbox
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> sybariten:  i compile the latest weechat here. :) when in doubt use source.
[13:40] <pepijn_> nobody can help me with the search line bug in grub2?
[13:40] <mrXX> n8tuser it has Address, channel, frequency, quality, encryption, essid, bit rates, mode, extra, extra, IE   --which is the AP
[13:40] <n8tuser> slnr -> you may have to re-install, save your current /home/  and can be used for the new install, asuming its in a diff partition
[13:40] <Younder> ardchoille, well it is, it uses pygdt
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> sybariten:  the one in 9.10 is not the 'latest' version either. it mizzed the freeze deadline by like 2 days
[13:41] <n8tuser> mrXX AP is identified via ssid,
[13:41] <ardchoille> Younder: I'm confused as to what you're talking about
[13:41] <n8tuser> mrXX  kindly  man iwlist   for more details
[13:42] <Panda^^> ardchoille, do you know how to synchronise my music in rhythmbox?
[13:42] <Younder> ardchoille, pythom is a eveloemnt language (script) and rythmbox is developed in it
[13:42] <mrXX> n8tuser i think i have no AP - iwlist ap gives the following : eth0      Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[13:42] <Younder> ardchoille, there isno mystery
[13:42] <ardchoille> Younder: I am aware of that
[13:42] <mrXX> so n8tuser does that mean i m not allowed to renew my ip
[13:42] <n8tuser> mrXX you are typing the wrong command..
[13:42] <Enissay> Tanks llutz grawity, it works, but can u explain it?
[13:42] <Enissay> please :)
[13:43] <Younder> ardchoille, I am a python developer..
[13:43] <grawity> Enissay: Which one - 'for' or 'find'?
[13:43] <llutz> Enissay: should be clear, find searches for directories and gives what it finds to zip
[13:43] <llutz> Enissay: man find, man zip
[13:43] <abhishek_> hi
[13:43] <n8tuser> mrXX   did you try to man iwlist?   next man iwconfig
[13:43] <Enissay> okay then
[13:43] <abhishek_> is anyone there?
[13:43] <Enissay> thanks again :)
[13:44] <mrXX> n8tuser ok, thanks brother for your help
[13:44] <grawity> Enissay: And "help for"
[13:44] <bradpitt> hi.. does anybody have any idea why sometimes i see grub screen and sometimes i don't, it's just go directly to usplash screen.
[13:44] <DrRobinTosh> how do i open /var/log/shorewall-init.log
[13:44] <Igramul> Hi, I have a MS Natural 4000 USB keyboard. It works in the boot manager (grub) but does not work in the login screen.
[13:45] <n8tuser> mrXX i know it is slow help, you will get the hang of it, we will explain the details once you figure out the basic command via man
[13:45] <mrXX> n8tuser yes dude, i m reading it and it makes sense
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> a man page that makes sence?  Quick! i must file a bug report against it!
[13:46] <n8tuser> lol
[13:46] <mrXX> n8tuser but my only problem is i even dont know the basics of networking, that is why i have hard time understanding
[13:46] <Younder> sounds wery hiiy
[13:46] <Younder> hippy
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> I just love man pages that are   just 'command --help > manpage.1' output....
[13:46] <DrRobinTosh> anyone got a mac and has used a magic mouse?
[13:46] <n8tuser> mrXX ahh. okay, thats why i made the comments earlier..about tidbits of info..
[13:47] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: how to open /var/log/shorewall-init.log
[13:47] <n8tuser> mrXX anyways,  AP is identified via its ssid,  so you tell your driver to use the ssid of the AP you are allowed to use
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  its a text file. Use any editor , or the less, or more command to view its contents
[13:48] <DrRobinTosh> gah, what command?
[13:48] <Younder> n8tuser, that system ID thingie?
[13:48] <n8tuser> mrXX likes so..  sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid XXXXXX ;  dhclient wlan0
[13:48] <mrXX> n8tuser is it possible to see my router add, cause at home i saw the company and typed in the required addreass - is it legal to see my company's router add?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  text editor that you like, or 'more' or 'less' or time to learn some bash basics...
[13:48] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:49] <n8tuser> mrXX only can see it once you are associated and given an ip address that are routable
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  you might want to install and use the command 'mc' its very handy
[13:49] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis, what site would you recconmend?
[13:49] <Younder> n8tuser, so root on you machine doesn't automatically mean root anywhere.
[13:49] <mrXX> n8tuser i think i am given an ip-address cause our wireless network is public - correct me if wrong
[13:49] <n8tuser> Younder come again? did i mention anything about that?
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  delicious.com and look under the 'bash' tags  or google.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> !shell | DrRobinTosh
[13:50] <ardchoille> DrRobinTosh: Here's a command line cheatsheet: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/08/command-line-cheatsheet.html
[13:50] <DrRobinTosh> mc pretty colors
[13:50] <souffledev> does someone know what mkfs.ext4dev is?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  theres dozens if not hunderds of bash tutorial/training sites
[13:50] <n8tuser> mrXX who gave you an ip address? is it static address?  for you ethernet perhaps not for your wifi?
[13:50] <souffledev> LjL, thanks dude
[13:51] <Younder> n8tuser, No I did, so people understand why it is what it is.
[13:51] <mrXX> n8tuser we can connect automatically via the wireless or through the hard wire in the rooms
[13:51] <n8tuser> Younder -> oh okay, the way you phrased it got me confused
[13:51] <mrXX> n8tuser i wish i were a computer science major,
[13:51] <puppetmaster_> Hi
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Im glad im NOT a CS major :)
[13:52] <mrXX> DR_Willis why do you say so sir?
[13:52] <puppetmaster_> Multiple sounds doesn't work with pulseaudio on ubuntu 9.10. What should I do ?
[13:52] <mrXX> Dr_Willis ppl say that is where the jobs and money are
[13:52] <n8tuser> mrXX companies usually wanted you to have a static ip address if possible to know who is who.. so they may have given you an ip address to configure your host with
[13:53] <mrXX> n8tuser oh, i think i do have a static ip then, cause we are traced :-(
[13:53] <DrRobinTosh> ok
[13:53] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis:  No shorewall compiler installed
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> mrXX:  many CS majors whos jobs are getting out sourced to other countries would dissagree. :) but I went into Engineering.
[13:53] <n8tuser> mrXX  unless you speak Hindi or Pashtun or chinese.. but it is offtopic bout careers.. :P
[13:53] <DrRobinTosh> where do i get the compler from?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  I knwo nothing about shorewall.   I imagine its one of the packages shown earlier with the apt-cache search shorewall   command.
[13:53] <kom14> aira
[13:53] <mrXX> so that means i cant renew my ip , n8tuser , cause they track us
[13:54] <n8tuser> mrXX  well that static ip address needs to be inserted into your config file
[13:54] <frickelton> Can you help with a problem in 9.04: during startup the default level is 2 and one of my /etc/init.d scripts fails to run "su - <user> -c <cmd>", but succeeds if I run it manually afterwards. Why is "su - <user> -c <cmd>" not available during startup in runlevel 2?
[13:54] <Igramul> Can anyone tell me how to get an MS Natural 4000 USB keyboard working? It appears in the kernel messages and works on the boot menu, however Ubuntu does not use it as keyboard.
[13:54] <Igramul> ... sometimes
[13:54] <n8tuser> mrXX if i was the sys admin or network admin at your workplace, am certainly wanting to track you.. hehehe
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> Igramul:  it some times works in X and some times not?
[13:55] <Jimi_Neutral> ok im new to ubuntu and i have just downloaded a theme to my home folder and it is a .tar.gz....how do i install it?
[13:55] <mrXX> n8tuser wow, but no bady came to set up my internet, however i have to login before accessing the internet
[13:55] <Igramul> Dr_Willis, right
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> Igramul:  thats odd. Try a different usb port. and when it fails try unplug/repluging it in
[13:56] <n8tuser> mrXX there are different ways to manage resources..anyways are you connected via ethernet at your work now
[13:56] <n8tuser> ?
[13:56] <Igramul> Dr_Willis, the odd thing is, that it always works in the boot manager. But I'll give Your advice a try.
[13:56] <mrXX> n8tuser ya, ethernet cable or wireless
[13:56] <Younder> Dr_Willis, I have yet to have device fail on one port and succed on another
[13:57] <n8tuser> mrXX  using windows?
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> Younder:  ive had usb ports go bad.
[13:57] <Younder> it is basically controoled by ONE chip
[13:57] <Igramul> Dr_Willis, me too, I guess. (This is being typed with the MS keyboard)
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> Younder:  i also had where too many usb gizmos on the same mb caused issues.. but moving them to a pci usb expansion card helped.
[13:58] <mrXX> n8tuser of course not, never switched to windows since saw ubuntu
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> if you hang around long enough - you can see all sorts of weirdness. :)
[13:58] <mrXX> n8tuser but my internal mic doesnt work so i go to windows for skype :-(
[13:58] <Younder> Dr_Willis, I guess so
[13:58] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, drag the tar.gz to the theme manager
[13:59] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: how do i use IPTabels then?
[13:59] <n8tuser> mrXX then remove the /var/lib/dhcp3/*.leases  so you can attempt to request a new ip addresss. but even that, sometimes the dhcp server will allocate you the same as what the last ip it doled out to you
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | DrRobinTosh
[13:59] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, easy access by clicking desktop (change background) then choose themes tab
[13:59] <DrRobinTosh> i just want to protect from (D)Dos
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  proper use of the 'ufw' command will propberly do all you need.
[13:59] <Jimi_Neutral> bazhang, it wont go, it keeps springing back
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  what are you tryuing to 'firewall' anyway?
[13:59] <n8tuser> mrXX anyhow, i have to leave, get some breakfast
[14:00] <DrRobinTosh> the computer from (D)Dos
[14:00] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, got a link to the theme? and what version of ubuntu are you using
[14:00] <mrXX> n8tuser appreciate your help brother
[14:00] <DrRobinTosh> anything other then HTTPd or SSH
[14:00] <Younder> Dr_Willis, still a software config problem seems more likely, to use a medical term 'when hearing hoofs in the wood, don't yell Zebra'
[14:00] <mrXX> n8tuser enjoy ur breakfast
[14:00] <pepijn_> guys, nobody has the GRUB2 problems where you have to delete the search line just to boot?
[14:00] <UdontKnow> DrRobinTosh: prevent DDoS? on the receiving end? you need to refresh the theory
[14:00] <pepijn_> i'm really a bit frustrated by this, it's breaking my gf's laptop on every grub & kernel update!!
[14:01] <DrRobinTosh> UdontKnow, how do i stop DDoS?
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> Igramul:  a inteesting test would be see if any live cd/disrtos also have the same problem.
[14:01] <sampo> hello there..:)
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  if you knew a full proof way to do that.. You would be a billionare. :)
[14:01] <UdontKnow> DrRobinTosh: call your ISP
[14:01] <sampo> is it possible to install apple software in ubuntu?
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> oops fool proof.. :)
[14:01] <`Jack> hey. I'm looking for an application for Ubuntu to search & recover broken sectors from my hard disk. Like checkdisk on windows. Does anybody can help me ?
[14:02] <DrRobinTosh> xD
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> sampo:   depends on whaat software you mean. :)
[14:02] <sampo> iwork...
[14:02] <DrRobinTosh> hahahaha
[14:02] <DrRobinTosh> iWork
[14:02] <DrRobinTosh> :P
[14:02] <sampo> what?
[14:02] <sampo> I got a copy of it...
[14:02] <DrRobinTosh> How can i get Magic Mouse to work with Ubuntu
[14:02] <sampo> + whant to have a look
[14:02] <`Jack> hey. I'm looking for an application for Ubuntu to search & recover broken sectors from my hard disk. Like checkdisk on windows. Does anybody can help me ?
[14:03] <storyhe> i set (gnome-power-manager) ac and battery mode -> closed latop cover -> screen off(turn off monitor?)
[14:03] <Younder> sampo, MAC has l freeBSD core, but uses a completly different windows system
[14:03] <storyhe>  but closed latop , black screen&panic , help me ( ..)
[14:03] <sampo> ahaa...
[14:03] <sampo> Jack: google may know that
[14:03] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis, So, what if enter my computer in to the DMZ?
[14:04] <Younder> sampo, You can install a X server whch improves youodds
[14:04] <UdontKnow> Younder: a Darwin core, not a FreeBSD core
[14:04] <sampo> X server?how?
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  why do you want to do that?  If you want to secure your pc..  then secure it.
[14:04] <ardchoille> !google | sampo
[14:04] <sampo> ok
[14:05] <Azurespace2> hm
[14:05] <Younder> sambo: http://www.google.no/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=MAC+install+X+server
[14:05] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: use google to find some info-sites for network-, linux-, security-basics
[14:05] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis so i can install a IRC on it it.
[14:05] <DrRobinTosh> IRCd*
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  and why do you want to do that?
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  theres no need to put it on the DMZ for that
[14:05] <DrRobinTosh> so i can link it to my network.
[14:05] <DrRobinTosh> POrt Forward?
 does anybody know where the ubuntu karmic armel repository is?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  I think you need to clarify your 'mission goals' and work up from the bottom.
[14:06] <DrRobinTosh> hmm...
[14:06] <mrXX> i deleted everthing from /var/lib/dhcp3/*  what effect does it have?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  most routers can port forward   these days.
[14:06] <DrRobinTosh> yep..
[14:07] <frickelton> Hi, in an /etc/init.d script of mine, the "su - <user> -c <cmd>" fails to run the command during startup. This used to work in 8.10, but now doesn't in 9.04. Any Ideas?
[14:07] <DrRobinTosh> how do i set ubuntu to have a static Internal IP?
[14:07] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: man 5 interfaces
[14:07] <mrXX> i deleted everthing from /var/lib/dhcp3/*  what effect does it have?
[14:07] <acemo> how can i create gpt disks during the installation of ubuntu-server 9.10?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  on the desktop verison the networkmanager tool can do that.
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> !static
[14:08] <Igramul> DrRobinTosh, You can use the network manager to do that.
[14:08] <Younder> UdontKnow, actually though given a different name it is still freeBsd, and linux compatibale to a point, threads are differenty
[14:08] <frickelton> DrRobinTosh: try /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 add <ip>
[14:08] <mrXX> ls
[14:09] <Igramul> DrRobinTosh, frickelton's solution won't be permanent and it adds an _additional_ IP to the interface.
[14:09] <DrRobinTosh> ah ok.
[14:09] <DrRobinTosh> so, what way should i use? (Im a noob i will need help :P)
[14:10] <Igramul> DrRobinTosh, use the network manager. It should be somewhere in the upper right corner of the screen (a plug icon).
[14:10] <DrRobinTosh> Igramul, i have no GUI
[14:10] <capibolso> mm
[14:11] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: man 5 interfaces
[14:11] <capibolso> anyone uses evolution?
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> a 'noob' really should start with the Desktop edition.,
[14:11] <mrXX> capibloso i do
[14:11] <Igramul> DrRobinTosh, in that case "man interfaces" will tell You how to change /etc/network/interfaces to fulfill Your needs.
[14:11] <mrXX> capibloso but it is not so good, i cant connect to yahoo in it
[14:11] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis, remove the quotes. hhah
[14:12] <DrRobinTosh> Igramul i see...
[14:12] <DrRobinTosh> Igramul what part in it do i change?
[14:12] <capibolso> ok when I receive an email with a list of email accounts at the CC with an ";" separator, evolution only shows the first email
[14:12] <frickelton> Hi, in an /etc/init.d script of mine, the "su - <user> -c <cmd>" fails to run the command during startup. This used to work in 8.10, but now doesn't in 9.04. Any Ideas?
[14:13] <capibolso> anyone knows how to fix that?
[14:13] <DrRobinTosh> iface?
[14:13] <mrXX> dunno know sorry
[14:13] <capibolso> ok no prob
[14:13] <Azurespace> Hello, I got a problem. On Gnome power management window, I set the suspend screen option when the laptop would be closed so that the power could be saved.
[14:13] <Igramul> DrRobinTosh, 'man interfaces' contains examples for static IPs. Change "auto" to "static" and add some lines for the static IP configuration.
[14:13] <mrXX> capibolso but i think it is possible from the sender side as well not to show the BCC info for privacy issues
[14:14] <DrRobinTosh> iface eth0-home inet static?
[14:14] <mrXX> capibolso try sending a test email yourself and see
[14:14] <Enissay> grawity, if I want to use rar instead of zip, it doesnt work   find -maxdepth 1 -type d -exec rar -r {}.rar {} \;
[14:14] <grawity> Enissay: Doesn't work how exactly? We're not mind readers.
[14:14] <Azurespace> But what actually happens is for the screen to turn black and not to become back.
[14:14] <bradpitt> hi.. how can i install kubuntu-restricted-extras without installing Sun Java because i already have openjdk? thanks.
[14:15] <DrRobinTosh> iface eth0-home inet static
[14:15] <Enissay> grawity, it displays rar's help, i guess the syntax is wrong
[14:15] <Azurespace> and my system is a laptop
[14:15] <capibolso> yes, the problem is that I can't get window$ users to put a "," instead of ";" hehe
[14:15] <grawity> Enissay: "rar" is a completely different program, and yes, it uses a different syntax.
[14:16] <llutz> Enissay: read that help and change the options
[14:17] <DrRobinTosh> Igramul, how to change /etc/network/interfaces
[14:17] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: you had been told to read "man 5 interfaces"
[14:18] <DrRobinTosh> llutz: i have
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  its a text file. Use a text editor.
[14:19] <DrRobinTosh> sudo nano?
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  A+
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> if you like nano :)
[14:20] <DrRobinTosh> yus
[14:20] <DrRobinTosh> yea its fine
[14:20] <DrRobinTosh> works for me
[14:21]  * Dr_Willis wont start a flame war by saying  anything about 'real men use vi' :P
[14:21] <DrRobinTosh> correction ' real men geeks'
[14:21] <DrRobinTosh> lol
[14:22] <llutz> last real man died 06.11.79 :(
[14:22] <Enissay> grawity, llutz :) thanks guys and sorry for my stupid questions.... it works now :)
[14:22] <Huck> hello guys
[14:22] <mrxxx> once i close my wireless from keyboard button, i cant get it back again, can i open wireless from terminal as well?
[14:23] <mrxxx> /msg nickserv identify coldsoul
[14:23] <ardchoille> mrXX: you need to change you password now
[14:23] <DJones> mrxxx: Time to change your password
[14:23] <ardchoille> mrXX: that was for anothe ruser, sorry about that
[14:23] <mrxxx> DJones how?
[14:24] <DrRobinTosh> lol
[14:24] <Dr_Willis>  /msg nickserv help
[14:24] <DrRobinTosh> Mrxx
[14:24] <blackxored> there's a linux command equivalent to this utc to local time ruby conversion: ruby -e "puts Time.utc(2009,11,26,17,00).getlocal"?????
[14:24] <DrRobinTosh> yor pass is  coldsoul
[14:24] <DrRobinTosh> :S:S:S
[14:24] <Huck> after the update at the 9.10 version i updated grub for refresh my menu.lst and now all work...but i have installed windows xp too and now there isnt windows in menu.lst how can i update grub for see again windows? sorry for bad english ty for help
[14:25] <rob_p_> mrxxx: You just broadcast your current password to hundreds of users...  You definitely need to change it now.
[14:25] <trijntje> what is wrong with launchpad lately? I keep getting "unsecure items on this page" errors from firefox and its driving me crazy
[14:25] <DJones> mrxxx: If you're identified to nickserv using the existing password, then type /msg nickserv set password $newpass. (Thats what it says on freenodes website)
[14:26] <blackxored> anyone??
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | huck
[14:26] <Younder> Huck, It should do that automatically. looked at the very bottom?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> blackxored: man time    will fill you in
[14:26] <vkd> hi need some help with an update that broke  my nw access completely
[14:26] <blackxored> ActionParsnip, time isn't for time, its for benchmarking lol
[14:27] <Huck> yep i looked but there isnt....only ubuntu kernel
[14:27] <Huck> !grub2
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> blackxored: sounded like you wanted to set or display te time
[14:27] <blackxored> so I'll re-ask: there's a linux command equivalent to this utc to local time ruby conversion: ruby -e "puts Time.utc(2009,11,26,17,00).getlocal"?????
[14:27] <Younder> Huck, OK, I had to ask
[14:28] <Younder> Huck, next is editing the grub config file
[14:28] <blackxored> ActionParsnip, but the command is date, and doesn't convert, something like date -R -u -d "2009-11-26 17:00" won't do any conversion at all
[14:28] <erUSUL> blackxored: use date
[14:28] <blackxored> erUSUL, read ^^^^^^^^
[14:28] <Huck> Younder ok how can i do it?ty for help
[14:28] <mrXXx> i need help with my password now
[14:28] <Younder> Huck, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/68350-add-windows-grub.html
[14:28] <mrXXx> can someone pm me plz
[14:29] <vkd> i'm on xubuntu 9.04, and a recent update broke networking completely.
[14:29] <mrXXx> i cant get into chat with my prevous nick
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> Grub2's 'update-grub' command should see/add existing windoes installs.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> mrXXx: password in what way. If you forget your password, boot to root recovery mode and run: passwd usualy_user_name
[14:29] <bazhang> mrXXx, please ask in #freenode
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> mrXXx: then join #freenode
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> mrXXx:  someone may of taken it over allready.  or changed the password
[14:29] <bazhang> mrXXx, if you are referring to irc chat nickname/password
[14:29] <mrXXx> freenode is overflow
[14:29] <blackxored> erUSUL, ActionParsnip: date -R -u -d "2009-11-26 17:00"
[14:29] <blackxored> Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:00:00 +0000
[14:30] <mrXXx> mrxxx/pass
[14:30] <nomasteryoda> mrXXx, but we don't know your password
[14:30] <nomasteryoda> just had to add some humor to the situation
[14:30] <mrXXx> if i try to enter the chat with my real nick, then it says that it is in use
[14:30] <blackxored> please pv me I'll go out for a smoke
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> !password
[14:31] <mrXXx> and the #freenode is overflow
[14:31] <ironfoot495> Hello Is there anyone who knows how to get 9.10 server to see the intranet? I have googled and still can't seem to find the answer?
[14:31] <mrXXx> !password
[14:31] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, he means his irc client /freenode password
[14:31] <DrRobinTosh> eek
[14:31] <ardchoille> !away > imlad
[14:31] <DrRobinTosh> broke something
[14:32] <mrXXx> what is the command to change my pass?
[14:32] <mrXXx>  / msg nickserv oldpass newpass?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> mrXXx, quit irc and reboot , you may be stuck in the nonpart loop
[14:32] <erUSUL> mrXXx: System>Preferences>About Me
[14:32] <DrRobinTosh> mrXXx, ask #freenode.
[14:32] <bazhang>    /msg nickserv set password $newpass  mrXXx
[14:32] <ardchoille> mrXX: I gave you that command twice in pm
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> ironfoot495:  what part of the intranet is it not seeing?
[14:33] <kekale> ironfoot495, probably not because no one might know what you refer to by "see the intranet". Intranet as in a site in the internal network or something else/what?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> just let him reboot , he's prolly joined twice by mistake
[14:33] <Huck> how can i know what is it the root windows? root		(hd0,0)
[14:33] <Huck> windows is in /dev/sda3
[14:33] <ironfoot495> DR_Willis:I don't see the intranet !
[14:33] <n8ature> ironfoot495: do you mean internet?
[14:33] <ironfoot495> yes
[14:34] <Younder> Huck, in a terminal do a sudo su
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> ironfoot495:    your terms are vague. can you PING the other machines via ip?
[14:34] <ardchoille> Younder: it's better to advise sudo -i, not sudo su
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> ironfoot495:  You mean intER net not intra-net ? :)
[14:34] <ironfoot495> no I mean the machines in the building
[14:34] <kekale> ironfoot495, so network shares, right?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> ironfoot495: can you ping them by their ip# ?
[14:35] <mrXXx> Yeah i canged my password!!! now nobady knows it!!!
[14:35] <Younder> ardchoille, thx, never seen that one
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: yeah was kinda hoping the factoid would be freenode pass
[14:35] <kekale> ardchoille, what's the difference between the two?
[14:35] <charles_> newish, stuck can barely see display, it is broken into 3 columns, can someone please help
[14:35] <ardchoille> !usod
[14:35] <ardchoille> !sudo
[14:35] <ironfoot495> on the Desktop I do see the intranet but on my Server I don't seem to have that capabillity?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> mrXXx: the admins in #freenode wil lsend you an email so you can reset it
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> mrXXx: thats why we are telling you to go there
[14:36] <Huck> younder http://paste.ubuntu.com/328509/
[14:36] <ironfoot495> So I'm asking if anyone knows how to get it to work?
[14:36] <ardchoille> kekale: sudo -i gives you roots environment configuration
[14:36] <mrXXx> ActionParsnip ok,
[14:36] <Huck> u can see the code...in ROOT: what i must put ?
[14:37] <Younder> Huck, are you in fact running Windows 95?
[14:37] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  so assuming you mean internet, then you need to hook it up to your router which has access to the internet.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: according to the root docs, sudo -i isnt advised and sudo -s is
[14:37] <Huck> nope its an example
[14:37] <Huck> of that page u link me
[14:37] <Huck> i have windows xp
[14:37] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: Ok, then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo needs to be edited
[14:37] <mrXXx> does anybody here have idea on Pommo?
[14:37] <Huck> and i want add in menu.lst of grub
[14:37] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  it is going to work the same way as your desktop.  just make sure the network settings are the same as your desktop.
[14:38] <Younder> Huck, yes, so you need to give a text denoting the version you are actually using.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: no it doesnt as it says it there
[14:38] <Huck> ok how?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: scroll aout 80% down to: None of the methods below are suggested or supported by the designers of Ubuntu
[14:38] <Younder> Huck, edit the text
[14:38] <vashitn> where can i find more info on the notebook version and will it work on 15" screen
[14:38] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: see my pm please
[14:38] <Younder> Huck, also the hard drive is wrong
[14:39] <mrXX> how can i enable wireless from terminal??
[14:39] <ironfoot495> n8ature: I appreciate your input  I have internet  because I'm communicating with you right, for some reson the server is not setup the same way that's the problem.
[14:39] <vashitn> !notebook
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: so no it is fine just how it is
[14:39] <sebsebseb> hi
[14:39] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  is your desktop running ubuntu?
[14:40] <charles_> hi @sebsebseb
[14:40] <Huck> yep but i donno what is it the ROOT correct, in the example tell (hd0,0) but windows is installed in /dev/sda3...dont care?
[14:40] <Younder> Huck, are you faminiar with, emacs, VIM, vi? or other editor
[14:40] <sebsebseb> charles_: hi
[14:40] <charles_> I am looking for help with a new install @sebsebseb
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> Huck:  in grub1 talk sda3 = hd0,2
[14:41] <Huck> ok dr.willis ty so much!
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> Huck:  in grub2 it would be  hd0,3 I think.
[14:41] <sebsebseb> charles_: Uhmm ok, and by the way have I helped you before in the past?
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> Huck:  you can aleays edit the grub boot lines from the menu at boot and change them
[14:41] <mrXX> in my acer, if i once disable my wireless, then i cant enable it without restart - plz help
[14:41] <blackxored> so I'll re-ask: there's a linux command equivalent to this utc to local time ruby conversion: ruby -e "puts Time.utc(2009,11,26,17,00).getlocal"?????
[14:41] <charles_> Not with this handel
[14:42] <jim__> just wanted to give everyone a quick laugh.  i just installed 9.10 and didn't have any sound.  spent about fifteen minutes looking around to find out why.  then just realized i had no speakers plugged in.  one of those days i guess.
[14:42] <sebsebseb> charles_: I don't remember a charles_ from in here
[14:42] <Huck> Dr_Willis: well i must add this code in menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/328516/
[14:42] <Younder> Dr_Willis: I never saw an item to ADD declarations though
[14:42] <mrXX>  in my acer, if i once disable my wireless, then i cant enable it without restart - plz help
[14:42] <blackxored> anyone can solve that, isn't that hard, is it?
[14:42] <charles_> My display has wrong sync but I don't see anywhere to adjust or detect the correct settings
[14:43] <grawity> blackxored: date -d "2009-11-26 17:00 UTC"
[14:43] <sebsebseb> jim__: simple enough mistake usually, so I won't laugh at you for it :)
[14:43] <grawity> blackxored: Assuming you have $TZ set to the corret time zone.
[14:43] <ironfoot495> n8ature: That's the problem they are not Desktop -> 2.6.31-15-generic ; Server 2.6.31-15-generic-pae
[14:43] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  I am assuming you have your desktop and server connected to your router..  if you desktop is working and connected to the internet, make sure the network settings of your server are set up the same way.  check this file: /etc/network/interfaces.  Your desktop probably has just a few links with "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback".  change that file on your server to the same thing and it should be able to get to the internet
[14:43] <charles_> thanks
[14:43] <mrXX>  in my acer, if i once disable my wireless, then i cant enable it without restart - plz help
[14:43] <charles_> o sorry
[14:43] <Younder> charles_, what driver do you use?
[14:43] <blackxored> grawity, that's what I asked for! thanks, wasn't that hard at all, just was missing the UTC suffix :p thanks a lot
[14:43] <charles_> no idea
[14:44] <jim__> well i figured you have to be able to laugh at yourself or you'll go nuts.
[14:44] <charles_> I picked ps out of dumpster
[14:44] <charles_> It is a dell latitude
[14:44] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  i said, "a few links", but i meant to say, "a few lines".. lol
[14:44] <grayd> Does anybody knows how to change weird MiBs tj normal Mb (2^10, not 10^3)?
[14:44] <sebsebseb> charles_: So I helped you before with another name, which was?  Also  you wanted hep with an install?  Of Ubuntu?
[14:44] <deadowl> how do I determine if my home folder encryption is working?
[14:44] <Younder> Blackxored: no they are not difficult, it is more a matter of being methodical and logical'
[14:44] <ironfoot495> n8ature: OK! I'll go take a look bb;
[14:45] <sebsebseb> jim__: yep that can be a good thing to laugh at oneself sometimes
[14:45] <blackxored> Younder, really? it's a matter of missing a suffix :P
[14:45] <charles_> Yes with xubuntu install.  Sorry @sebsebseb I don't really think you have helped me before.
[14:45] <Younder> Blackxored: lol, in your case
[14:46] <blackxored> Younder, really, if I'm lol I don't know what's up to people, then :P no need for that
[14:46] <sebsebseb> charles_: Probably not then, but have helped many, so can't remember everyone
[14:46] <MFox> hey guys
[14:46] <charles_> @sebsebseb.   After 3 days of fooling around I just took a stab in the dark looking for help
[14:46] <sebsebseb> charles_: Ok so what's the problem regarding the Xubuntu install?
[14:46] <MFox> i have Ubuntu 9.04 januaty
[14:46] <sebsebseb> MFox: ok
[14:46] <MFox> wanna upgrade to 9.10 with CD
[14:46] <charles_> The display comes up in 3 columns
[14:46] <sebsebseb> MFox: hmm  I would suggest staying with 9.04 for now
[14:46] <MFox> but the upgrade progress doesnt start
[14:47] <Younder> Blackxored: you are WAY to sensitive. That was not an insult. It was just advice.
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> MFox: ok then you need the alternate CD
[14:47] <sebsebseb> MFox: Also many people that upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, then ended up with issues.
[14:47] <MFox> i've mount the cd image as a drive,
[14:47] <MFox> sebsebseb: ok
[14:47] <peterSK1> sebsebseb: karmic works fine for me :D
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> MFox: you can then mount the ISO and run:gksu "sh /cdrom0/cdromupgrade"
[14:48] <blackxored> Younder, no I didn't take that hard enough to make me mad :P
[14:48] <sebsebseb> !worksforme | peterSK1
[14:48] <MFox> also i've tried the sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade in terminal
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> MFox: assuming you mounted the ISO to /media/cdrom0
[14:48] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, hi, i went ahead and stuck with 9.10
[14:48] <MFox> but it says can not open the cdromupgrade
[14:48] <sebsebseb> MFox: have a look at the factoid above from the bot :)
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> MFox: does the file exist. You can check with: file /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade
[14:49] <blume> hello, I recently upgraded to karmic and some erratic ubuntu-ignores-configuration behavior in touchpad/keyboard/etc is frustrating me. Can you help me make sense of it?
[14:49] <MFox> ActionParsnip: nope, it doesnt exist !
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> MFox: are you mounting the alternate ISO? You cannot CD upgrade with the desktop ISO
[14:49] <sebsebseb> MFox: Also instead of just upgrading to 9.10,  or well trying to, maybe you should check out the release notes, so you have an idea about some of the issues.  Also in certain ways 9.10 is a kind of downgrade really, for example how the log in screen can't be themed like the old one.
[14:50] <sebsebseb> MFox: Altough there's a way to get the old one working
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: its on the screen for seconds, why is that so hugely detremental
[14:50] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: depends on the user
[14:50] <Younder> sebsebseb, also the ubuntu logi is all white again
[14:50] <Younder> logo
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> i guess
[14:51] <MFox> ah
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> MFox: is it the alternate ISO you are using??
[14:51] <MFox> i love the 9.04 login screen
[14:51] <charles_> sebsebseb: Seems like you are very knowledgeable and in demand,  is there some venue I should be using instead of this one to get help with the video install issue?
[14:51] <MFox> ActionParsnip: i dont think so :-/
[14:51] <MFox> its the desktop cd image
[14:51] <sebsebseb> !notes |  MFox
[14:51] <Younder> not a whole lot of fans of Karmic here I guess
[14:52] <sebsebseb> Younder: that's not true,  most of the people in here will like it
[14:52] <sebsebseb> Younder: or probably anyway
[14:52] <Guest38123> charles_: Just saw some of your comments.  Wonder if I may be having same problem as you....
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> MFox: it wont work then the upgrade notes clearly state its the alternate ISO you need, they even boldify it for emphasis
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Younder: its all the same to me
[14:52] <erUSUL> Younder: well i'm not fan just becouse jaunty worked equally well ;)
[14:52] <charles_> Wow Guest38...:
[14:52] <sebsebseb> MFox: If you do a clean install, you get Ext4 and Grub 2 without an issue, or well probably
[14:52] <Snausages> Younder: yeah I haven't really noticed much difference between 9.04 and 9.1
[14:52] <MFox> ActionParsnip: yes! thats my fault... i guessed its the same!
[14:52] <sebsebseb> MFox: no Ext4 or  Grub 2 by default for Ext3 9.04 installs
[14:53] <MFox> cuz there isnt any link for download
[14:53] <Snausages> different artwork, different version of firefox...
[14:53] <thiebaude> Younder, i have no problems at all with 9.10
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> MFox: well you know what you gotta do now to get the gold :D
[14:53] <Younder> sebsebseb, well support makes you kinda kritical. And there are a whole lot of bugs in Karmic
[14:53] <sebsebseb> Snausages: the new artwork is sucky
[14:53] <charles_> Guest38..: do you have any thoughts on which file to mess around with?
[14:53] <sebsebseb> Younder: indeed at that, quite a lot of bugs in Karmic, and ones where people have ended up with issues as a result
[14:53] <Younder> sebsebseb, keeps us busy..
[14:53] <Snausages> sebsebseb: I might not go that far, but I have to say I miss some of what I saw in 9.04.  I dunno, I only used it 10 days before I upgraded to karmic
[14:53] <sebsebseb> Younder: also  things that worked in Jauntey, no longer work in Karmic, and that kind of thing
[14:53] <Guest38123> charles_: no
[14:54] <Snausages> sebsebseb: and I'd never used any ubuntu before that
[14:54] <sebsebseb> Snausages: What kind of stuff are you missing?
[14:54] <Guest38123> charles_: maybe...
[14:54] <blip-> ~grub
[14:54] <blip-> !grub
[14:54] <Snausages> sebsebseb: literally just the look of the artwork on the login screen for jaunty.
[14:54] <blip-> !grub2
[14:54] <charles_> Gu: ok
[14:54] <Arabus> blub
[14:54] <sebsebseb> Snausages: ah yes that
[14:54] <Guest88775> is there any way to repartition existing partition?
[14:54] <sebsebseb> Snausages: well there is a way to use the old screen instead
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: you can resize using gparted in liveCD desktop
[14:55] <sebsebseb> Snausages: I tried, but  something went a bit wrong
[14:55] <Snausages> sebsebseb: I guess I'm disappointed though...  the only reason I upgraded to 9.1 was because I heard it was possible to get some kind of color management...  still haven't gotten it to work though.
[14:55] <charles_> dog biscuits?
[14:55] <afeijo> when I install phpmyadmin thru apt-get, it downloads the old version 2. How can I install the version 3? Or I have to do it manually?
[14:55] <Guest38123> charles_: Let me repeat my issue first, and let you tell me if we have the same issue.
[14:55] <ironfoot4951> n8ature: here is the Desktop /etc/network/interfaces
[14:55] <Guest38123> Fresh install of Karmic seems to screw up the framebuffer somehow.  Notify-OSD and System Monitor are bonkers.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[14:55] <charles_> Cool
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: make sure your backups are sufficiently recent incase of catastophe
[14:56] <Guest38123> charles_: So it's the same issue?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: i suggest you try and find a PPA with ver 3 on
[14:56] <sebsebseb> MFox:  If you want to upgrade to Karmic  of course that's up to you, but  if  you read what some of us are saying here  regarding it, you might want to think twice.   Also so your less likely to get issues, you should clean install 9.10 really.
[14:56] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of trying to do a network install, using a Ubuntu PC to provide the files needed to the computer having linux installed on it, but I'd like to know what I'd need to change from the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu, if I'm using Slax instead
[14:56] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: ppa?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: http://ppa-search.appspot.com/   may give some help
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> 1ppa | afeijo
[14:56] <afeijo> ok
[14:56] <Younder> sebsebseb,like right out of the box rythmbox and totem didn't work
[14:57] <MFox> sebsebseb: ok dude! thanx
[14:57] <MFox> sebsebseb: i've changed my mind :D
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[14:57] <DrRobinTosh> CRAP
[14:57] <victor__> hola a todos
[14:57] <DrRobinTosh> i just stuffed it
[14:57] <MFox> sebsebseb: 9.04 looks fine :P
[14:57] <Younder> sebsebseb, truns out my multiple python versions made it instal pygtk in the wrong place
[14:57] <charles_> Gu..381123:  You are way above my head.   I don't know anything about the frame buffers,   I installed 9.04 not KK
[14:57] <DrRobinTosh> theres nothing in /interfaces
[14:57] <victor__> hay alguien español
[14:58] <sebsebseb> MFox:  Snausages  Younder  Do you all understand about the release, as in what LTS is and what non LTS is, and  how long each get supported for?
i hav 160 gb hard disk and i installed ubuntu taking whole disk as a single partition ..now can i devide into 3 partitions?
[14:58] <afeijo> !es | victor__
[14:58] <ardchoille> !es | victor__
[14:58] <n8ature> ironfoot4951:  dont paste here use something like this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:58] <ironfoot495> n8ature: here is the Server's /etc/network/interfaces ->http://paste.ubuntu.com/328536/
[14:58] <Snausages> Younder: I dunno man...  everything worked in 9.04, and then I did an upgrade to 9.1 and...  everything worked!  Except color management anyway, but that seems like an uphill battle in linux anyway.
[14:58] <Guest38123> charles_: Ok.  Thought you'd said Karmic.  I'm on a Latitude BTW.
[14:58] <sebsebseb> MFox: well 10.04 should be a good one to get, since it's the next LTS
[14:58] <Younder> sebsebseb, not really, enighten me
[14:58] <ardchoille> !lts
[14:58] <DrRobinTosh> ironfoot495, I LOVE YOU
[14:58] <MFox> sebsebseb: yea sounds like that
[14:58] <DrRobinTosh> THANK YOU FOR THAT FILE!
[14:59] <sebsebseb> !love |  DrRobinTosh
[14:59] <DrRobinTosh> lul
[14:59] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of trying to do a network install, using a Ubuntu PC to provide the files needed to the computer having linux installed on it, but I'd like to know what I'd need to change from the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu, if I'm using Slax instead
[14:59] <MFox> sebsebseb: when it will released? :-/
[14:59] <DrRobinTosh> I R TEH SPEICAL NAO, I CAN SPEEK TEH LOLCAT
[14:59] <charles_> Guest38123: O well back to forums which don't make my head spin, Thanks
[14:59] <sebsebseb> !10.04 | MFox
[14:59] <sebsebseb> !caps |  DrRobinTosh
[14:59] <n8ature> ironfoot495: good, so it looks like your server is setup to use DCHP as well, next step is to see if you can ping things near you.  Do you know the IP of your router?  Probably something like <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:59] <ironfoot4951> n8ature: sorry -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328534/
[14:59] <DrRobinTosh> !cantlolcatincaps
[14:59] <MFox> tnx!
[15:00] <Snausages> that bot gets so annoying
[15:00] <DrRobinTosh> !part
[15:00] <Guest38123> charles_: good luck
[15:00] <DrRobinTosh> ubottu, Quit
[15:00] <shutarg> Good day. I got o problem. I have no sound when i run applications normally. But when i run under SUDO it sounds.
[15:00] <DrRobinTosh> lulz
[15:00] <bazhang> DrRobinTosh, please stop that
[15:00] <shutarg> Does anyone can help me?
[15:00] <sebsebseb> Younder: ok well basically  the versions that aern't LTS are kind of test releases in a way, well they aren't really  business quality standard,  and they also only get 18 months of support,  the Long Term Support releases get supported for longer, and are the kind of business release.
[15:00] <thiebaude> !abuse
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> !separatehome
[15:00] <bazhang> DrRobinTosh, /msg ubottu
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: ^
[15:00] <DrRobinTosh> bazhang, sure
[15:00] <n8ature> ironfoot4951:  was the paste your desktop system that is working?
[15:01] <shutarg> Good day. I got o problem. I have no sound when i run applications normally. But when i run under SUDO it sounds. ************
[15:01] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  the first paste was your desktop right?  the second your server?
[15:01] <sebsebseb> Younder: and it's fine to use whatever version of Ubuntu you want, as long as it's still supported by security updates
[15:01] <kleftisx> hello i have just installed Ati Catalyst Display driver, and when i restart the pc i just only see the sign of ubuntu and then black screen. now im currently from live cd. is there any possible way to uninstall ati driver?
[15:01] <jorge-curioso> yo all
[15:01] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of trying to do a network install, using a Ubuntu PC to provide the files needed to the computer having linux installed on it, but I'd like to know what I'd need to change from the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu, if I'm using a Slax LiveCD instead of Ubuntu
[15:02] <ironfoot495> DrRobinTosh: whoo! I'd like to know who you are before I make that kind of statement? (smile)!!!
[15:02] <DrRobinTosh> haha
[15:02] <Younder> sebsebseb, I kinda guessed as much
[15:02] <sebsebseb> MFox: 10.04 is a good one for you to clean install,  won't have to upgrade through 9.10 first that way, and you will get Ext4 and Grub 2
[15:02] <jorge-curioso> can anyone help me with configuring grub2
[15:02] <ironfoot495> n8ature: probably let me try it bb;
[15:03] <DrRobinTosh> anyone know how to asigin a static ip of <IP_ADDRESS>? http://paste.ubuntu.com/328536/
[15:03] <DrRobinTosh> <IP_ADDRESS>*
[15:03] <sebsebseb> Younder: however it seems,  that most Ubuntu users,  think that the latest release is going to be the best one, but that is not always the case depending on the user, and their hardware
[15:03] <Younder> sebsebseb, I still think it is a mistake to auto-update to a non-stable version
[15:04] <sebsebseb> Younder: The non LTS versions are stable as well
[15:04] <sebsebseb> Younder: it's just they aren't likely to be as stable as a LTS version
[15:04] <DrRobinTosh> just a idea
[15:04] <DrRobinTosh> the next release
[15:04] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  after you update that file on your server to be the same as your desktop, you can restart the networking on your server with this command:  "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[15:04] <DrRobinTosh> what if you were to foucs more on the GUI?
[15:04] <Guest38123> How do I launch sytem monitor?
[15:04] <DrRobinTosh> id work on some gfx for it
 is it possible to recover data if the partition got formatted?(ext3)
[15:05] <Younder> sebsebseb, still changing to chrome and real player fixed most of the problems
[15:05] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of trying to do a network install, using a Ubuntu PC to provide the files needed to the computer having linux installed on it, but I'd like to know what I'd need to change from the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu, if I'm using a Slax LiveCD instead of Ubuntu
[15:05] <sebsebseb> !testdisk |  Guest88775
[15:05] <sebsebseb> !info testdisk
[15:06] <DrRobinTosh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328536/
[15:06] <sebsebseb> Younder: real player hmm
[15:06] <guest_40848> got a zte modem and ubuntu 9.10 auto disconnect it ... can connect during that period
[15:06] <sebsebseb> Younder: did you try mplayer?
[15:06] <DrRobinTosh> brb
[15:06] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: try Testdisk
[15:06] <Younder> sebsebseb, there is a open software equivalent
[15:06] <sebsebseb> Younder: mplayer is open source
[15:06] <thiebaude> !vlc
[15:06] <guest_40848> hello?
[15:07] <Younder> sebsebseb, right, apart fromthe name, they are basically  the same
[15:07] <_5moufl> hi again, anyone knows how i can change the luminosity of my laptop screen, ican't do it anymore with my keyboard since karmic :/
[15:08] <sebsebseb> Younder: as for releases I think they should be more clear on the website,  when it comes to non LTS versions and LTS and  what that means exactly.  As well as still provide the download for 9.04 in the actsaul downloads sections.
[15:08] <ironfoot495> n8ature: yes I can ping my desktop I forgot the nmap cmd is it nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/16?
[15:08] <Guest88775> i have 160 gb ext3 partition is it possible to shrink or unalloacte part of it(say 60gb) and format it to ext4?
[15:08] <kleftisx> hello i have just installed Ati Catalyst Display driver, and when i restart the pc i just only see the sign of ubuntu and then black screen. now im currently from live cd. is there any possible way to uninstall ati driver?
[15:08] <ironfoot495> n8ature: yes that's it and I tried it all and it does work?
[15:08] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: there is a way to convert to Ext3 to Ext4, but for the proper thing you need to create a new Ext4 partition really
[15:08] <Ranakah> kleftisx drop to root terminal and then
[15:08] <Ranakah> aticonfig --initial -f
[15:09] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of trying to do a network install, using a Ubuntu PC to provide the files needed to the computer having linux installed on it, but I'd like to know what I'd need to change from the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu, if I'm using a Slax LiveCD instead of Ubuntu
[15:09] <guest_40848> got a zte modem and ubuntu 9.10 auto disconnect it ... can connect during that period
[15:09] <ironfoot495> n8ature yes the first one is my Desktop!
[15:09] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  are you saying you got it to work?
[15:09] <guest_40848> its a vireless one
[15:09] <sebsebseb> guest_40848: I was going to ask if it was
[15:09] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  guest_40848
[15:09] <kleftisx> Ranakah : but im currently in live cd that works?
[15:10] <Ranakah> kleftisx no
[15:10] <pietro_> sera
[15:10] <guest_40848> any more of it?
[15:10] <Ranakah> on boot click ESC and chose Recovery mode
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: sure, you can use foremost, easier to restore from backups though
[15:10] <Ranakah> and when u see the menu, chose Drop to root shell
[15:10] <Ranakah> and do this
[15:10] <Guest88775> sebsebseb> so how do i convert ext3 to ext4?
[15:10] <_5moufl> hi again, anyone knows how i can change the luminosity of my laptop screen, ican't do it anymore with my keyboard since karmic :/
[15:10] <n8ature> ironfoot495: can you ping google.com from your server?  if not, can you ping a google ip from your server like:  <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:10] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: Why do you want Ext4?
[15:10] <kleftisx> Ranakah : ok thanks a lot
[15:10] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: What kind of partition is it?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> !ext4
[15:11] <Ranakah> kleftisx no problem
 just to experiment..
[15:11] <ironfoot495> ok!

[15:11] <Guest88775> ext3
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto    with a converted file system you dont get all the benefits of ext4
[15:11] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: Ext4 for / in 9.04  meant speed improvements :)
[15:12] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: I did a test though 9.10 with Ext3 and I been running 9.10 with Ext4 for a while now,  anyway  it doesn't seem to matter anymore, if / is  in Ext3 or Ext4.  and  for a data partition Ext3 is fine, unless you got some really huge file or something
[15:12] <pietro_> lis
[15:12] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of doing a network install, using the guide for installing Ubuntu via PXE, using a Ubuntu PC as the provider, but I want to install Slax, not Ubuntu - what do I need to do differently from the Ubuntu guide?
[15:12] <eaglestar> hi was wondering if there is any reason to upgrade to 9.10
[15:13] <eaglestar> i run 9.04
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !pxe
[15:13] <HilBilly> I am trying to use midnight commander in a gnome terminal window. problem is that the function keys work on the terminal window and are not passed to midnight commander.  How can I fix this?
[15:13] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, fedora has good pxe support, have you considered them?  Dunno about slax
[15:13] <the_madman> So I've messed up my drivers.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> HilBilly: i'd imagine it is
[15:14] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: Fedora isn't what I'm after though, it's Slax. Based off Slackware, if that changes anything
[15:14] <the_madman> I removed nvidia-drivers and everything related, tried installing the nouvea (or something like that) driver, which didn't work.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> HilBilly: sorry, wrong target
[15:14] <HilBilly> ok, thanks.
[15:15] <sledgeas> hello
[15:15] <the_madman> Then I went back to the nVidia proprietary drivers, but now I've lost shader support for some reason.
 oh ok..since my full harddisk is / and no data partitions i thought of converting a part of hard disk into data partition..
[15:15] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, well, since the pxe has to get the installer going and each one is different, I think you need to look at the slax support for pxe
[15:15] <cow25salemba> hello all
[15:15] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: I've looked, the best I can find is a guide for installing Slackware, using a Slackware PC as the provider, which does things differently
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: have you removed old kernels?
[15:16] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: That's why I was trying to understand how to change the Ubuntu guide for Slax
[15:16] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, what are the limitations that you need to do the network install?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: that will save you 120Mb per kernel
[15:16] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: No CD, DVD or floppy drive, no USB ports, and only one ethernet port - the laptop's fairly old
[15:16] <Guest88775> yes..its a fresh installation
[15:17] <sebsebseb> !home |  Guest88775
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> StarLionIsaac: i'd ask in #slax or #slackware

[15:17] <the_madman> Any suggestions?
[15:17] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, what is on there now?
[15:17] <kotslon> can anybody help me with vsftpd (with virtual users)?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> the_madman: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[15:17] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: Ubuntu Karmic, on the only partition other than swap
[15:18] <Younder> kotslon, you don't wanna go there
[15:18] <the_madman> ActionParsnip:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [Geforce Go 6600TE/6200TE] (rev a2)
[15:18] <StarLionIsaac> ActionParsnip: Slax doesn't have a channel that I could find, and Slackware said to either ask here because it's a Ubuntu provider, or in Slax, which I can't find
[15:18] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, how did you get Karmic on?
[15:18] <zortec> I am running from a live-cd now, so what should I do to fix the grub menu so I can boot into jaunty again?
its a fresh installation
[15:18] <Younder> kotslon, use ssh these days
[15:18] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: I upgraded it from Jaunty, which in turn was from Intrepid, that was installed by LiveCD when the only USB port still worked
[15:18] <kotslon> Younder: i don't think i understood you )
[15:19] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: I've already tried to get the port working again, to no avail, it's a hardware issue, not software, and would cost me more than I have to get it fixed
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> the_madman: ok run: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove     then reboot, then follow this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html    to install the 190 driver (alpha) or 185 driver (stable)
[15:19] <collectek> can I ask xubuntu questions here?
[15:19] <piper69> i am having issues from last night downloading ubunto 9 from ubuntu site
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: i thought you said / was full
[15:19] <Younder> kotslon, there is a HUGE problem with FTP over the network
[15:19] <zortec> I deleted ubuntu out of the grub menu and need to fix it so I was told to boot into a live-cd and repair it... but more help would be appreciated
[15:19] <kotslon> Younder: why?
[15:20] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, Ah.   Well you have linux on there right now.   You could do something like write to the boot sectors of the hd and essentially destroy your current install but make it an installation device.   It would be a live or die event
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> StarLionIsaac: #slackware has 288 users in
[15:20] <piper69> after so many times i was able to, now i can't burn the iso its erroring out at 26%
[15:20] <kotslon> Younder: i need ftp server. i used filezilla, but it's windows only :(
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> piper69: is it an ubuntu ISO?
[15:20] <Younder> kotslon: http://cliffhacks.blogspot.com/2007/11/asus-eeepc-first-impressions-and-gpl.html
[15:20] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: That's been suggested, but doesn't help in trying to put a new distro on there
[15:20] <zortec> piper69: try burning at the lowest speed if you are having disc errors
[15:20] <kostkon> !info filezilla | kotslon
[15:20] <Younder> kotslon: you do NOT need a FTP server
[15:21] <the_madman> ActionParsnip: It's weird that the drivers found by jockey worked before I started mucking with them, though...
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> !ftpd
[15:21] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, you could remove the paging space and put an installation image in there
[15:21] <StarLionIsaac> ActionParsnip: I know there's users in Slackware - I was told when I asked there to ask here because I was trying to change the Ubuntu guide to install Slax instead of Ubuntu
[15:21] <collectek> zortec : http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/howto-fixing-grub-after-a-windows-installation-and-fixing-the-grub-menu/#comment-17727
[15:21] <guest_40848> any more of it?
[15:21] <piper69> zortec: its i/o error
[15:21] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: the swap partition you mean? But that gets mounted as soon as Karmic starts
[15:21] <kotslon> kostkon: it's client
[15:21] <DrRobinTosh> i want a Magic Mouse!
[15:21] <DrRobinTosh> i got one, but its not mine, its apples
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> the_madman: well if you follow the guide you can get drivered up, you just need to pull out all the current nvidia stuff so you have a clean slate
[15:21] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, but it does not have to
[15:21] <kostkon> kotslon, oh
[15:22] <the_madman> ActionParsnip: Cool. Will do.
[15:22] <kotslon> Younder, i think, i need :)
[15:22] <zortec> also this might just be my cd drive but when it's reading a disc, for example the live-cd it sounds like a 747 taking off... and I wonder if there is anything I can do to quiet it
[15:22] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: Would 500mb be enough space though?
[15:22] <the_madman> Well, see you all later, then.
[15:22] <sledgeas> for ubuntu 9.10 (Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz, kernel-2.6.31-15-generic) system freezes completely (even unable to ssh). after it i have installed for my "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3870" the latest driver from ati website (ati-driver-installer-9-11-x86.x86_64.run created fglrx-*_8.671-0ubuntu1_i386.deb). but system freezes from time to time anyway (e.g. when one opens lots of tabs in a browser [firefox,chromium..]). i tried to upg
[15:22] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: And even if it is, I don't know how to stop it being mounted
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> piper69: if its an ubuntu CD, did you MD5 test the ISO?
[15:22] <mossati> how can extract zip file from terminal
[15:22] <xjkx> pendrive detection problem http://pastebin.ca/1688207
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> mossati: unzip file.zip
[15:22] <collectek> I have xubuntu issues with my xfce-panel
[15:22] <Younder> kotslon: yes you don. But it can all be done under SSH
[15:22] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, thats almost a whole cd.   Surely there are smaller install images for slax.
[15:22] <mossati> ActionParsnip> thanks :)
[15:22] <piper69> ActionParsnip: no i didn't how can i do that please
[15:23] <Younder> kotslon: withouth the riscs
[15:23] <collectek> things like network manager don't show
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | piper69
[15:23] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, you can edit fstab to stop it, and you can use fdisk to change the partition type
[15:23] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: There are, but I added modules that gave me the base system I'd use - Slax has KDE as default, and I made openbox and Gnome available, along with networking
[15:23] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: I've been in that file before... I don't really like doing anything in it, but if it's the only way
[15:23] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, but you could add all that after the initial install.
[15:23] <collectek> and now the exit button on the panel only allows me to exit the panel
[15:23] <Younder> kotslon: join the Kerberos comunity
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> piper69: you are trying to burn a file and you have no way of knowing its good which can cause all sorts of issues if its bad
[15:23] <zortec> does anyone know how to fix a loud cdrom drive? I wouldn't mind but I might need to wear earplugs if it keeps taking off like a jet
[15:23] <bazhang> StarLionIsaac, this is not an ubuntu install? but rather slax?
[15:23] <collectek> which just ends my session
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> zortec: secure it in the case better
[15:24] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: Not necessairly, where network is the only way to get things on, and KDE is painfully slow on there, I had to put at least networking on
[15:24] <Basso> Anyone else got problems with Compiz effects + flash = cant press any buttons on the flash player?
[15:24] <^^> coucou
[15:24] <zortec> ActionParsnip: it is secured in there by four screws
[15:24] <StarLionIsaac> bazhang: Yes, I'm trying to install Slax via a network install, using the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu over a network
[15:24] <zortec> ActionParsnip: I will take a look at it again
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Basso: its a known bug in some cases. I'd ask in #comiz
[15:24] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, sure,  but consider the first phase a boot-strap installation to get the rest of it working
[15:24] <bazhang> StarLionIsaac, ##slax for slax support not here
[15:25] <Basso> ActionParsnip: thanks mate
[15:25] <Lungan> Can anyone give me a tutorial how do install dotnet framework?
[15:25] <StarLionIsaac> bazhang: Slax isn't the support I'm after - it's installing it from ubuntu
[15:25] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: But then how to get the cd image to it?
[15:25] <jorge-curioso> exit
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: the pxe server is ubuntu though
[15:25] <zortec> Lungan: Why not just install monodevelop?
[15:25] <jorge-curioso> XD
[15:25] <kleftisx> hello i have install Ati drivers and when i restart i was only able to see a black screen, then i have boot in recovery mode and remove ATI drivers and now the monitor goes to sleep mode. any suggestions?
[15:25] <Lungan> zortec, how? apt-get install monodevelop
[15:25] <VCoolio> Basso: it may work if you start firefox like this: export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1; firefox
[15:25] <uaneme> hello
[15:25] <bazhang> StarLionIsaac, that is offtopic here. You are not dealing with an Ubuntu installation
[15:26] <bazhang> StarLionIsaac, /join ##slax
[15:26] <zortec> I am not in ubuntu atm, but you can do a quick google search for monodevelop and it will be the first or second result
[15:26] <StarLionIsaac> bazhang: I'm trying to learn how to us Ubuntu to install Slax, not doing anything else yet
[15:26] <Lungan> zortec, Im trying to install a program that gives me error because i dont have dotnet framework .exe
[15:26] <StarLionIsaac> bazhang: It's the Ubuntu part of it I'm having problems with, hence, here
[15:26] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac,  you make your current paging space your active boot partition hd loader whatever.   Then you install to your big partition...but no page space.  Then you go back and change your page/loader partition back to page space
[15:26] <uaneme> does anyone know why ubuntu 9.10 can't mount a DVD
[15:27] <kotslon> Younder, i need my friends to be able to download/upload files using Filezilla or browser. Will Kerberos or SSH help me?
[15:27] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: Ah, I think I understand now. I'll try it, thanks
[15:27] <Younder> kotslon, yes
[15:27] <mackjones> Hi - how are you all?  Happy Thanksgiving to the Americans here.
[15:27] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, there great thing is.   Its reversable if the boot from paging space doesnt work out
[15:27] <zortec> Lungan: well, .NET framework would have to be installed through WINE since it's not a linux app and monodevelop is the equivalent of visual studio .NET
[15:27] <Younder> kotslon, this is where I give you a link
[15:27] <darjeeling> need help in dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/328554/
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> StarLionIsaac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer   will help, its all good up to the copying files bit
[15:28] <_qUaNtUm_> can linux work without ram if i gave it 2 gb of swap?
[15:28] <Lungan> zortec, so I juse monodevelop instead of .NET
[15:28] <mackjones> How can I set up my UBUNTU 9.10 with LAMP installed to be accessed from outside of the local network (i.e. from anywhere on the internet)?
[15:28] <_qUaNtUm_> i mean physicly with no ram at all
[15:28] <donri> freecell does not show up in aisleriot although it's in the help and some scheme files in the package too. ideas?
[15:28] <sync3times> hehehe
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> _qUaNtUm_: the system will refuse to boot without ram
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> _qUaNtUm_: it will fail post
[15:28] <zortec> Lungan: that is what I would use instead
[15:28] <sync3times> heheheheheh
[15:28] <Younder> kotslon: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg10t9.htm
[15:28] <mackjones> quantum yeah - you wont post...
[15:28] <StarLionIsaac> ActionParsnip: thanks for that too, I'll see if I can get this working now
[15:28] <zortec> _qUaNtUm_: linux doesn't require a huge swap, you can even give it 1gb
[15:28] <uaneme> mackjones you need to configure your router
[15:28] <sync3times> Ram is cheap
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> _qUaNtUm_: the data from the drives goes into ram then transferred to the data registers
[15:28] <donri> come on good folks dad needs freecell for a move to ubuntu ;)
[15:29] <kotslon> Younder, your link leads me to eepc :)
[15:29] <_qUaNtUm_> ActionParsnip: right
[15:29] <mackjones> uaneme - yes I figured that, but how and what do I do?
[15:29] <zortec> donri: you are looking for a freecell game on linux, yes?
[15:29] <Younder> kotslon, to SFTP
[15:29] <uaneme> the modem/ router handles the port acces details of your DSL
[15:29] <Younder> kotslon, which is fine
[15:29] <Lungan> zortec, how do I use it? Still when I run wine setup.exe I get the error "dotnetfx35setup.exe cannot be verified" or sometging like that
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> _qUaNtUm_: you could have very little ram ad use a large swap if you for example had 24 SSDs in RAID
[15:29] <donri> zortec, well, aisleriot has freecell, it's just not showing up in the game selection for me. locale issue? do you get it?
[15:30] <_qUaNtUm_> ActionParsnip: got it thanks
[15:30] <uaneme> you need to look it up in the manual of your router
[15:30] <mackjones> uaneme - yes I know that.  I'm asking what ports need to be forwarded, etc.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | Lungan
[15:30] <uaneme> ah  port 80 is for http
[15:30] <zortec> Lungan: I have not installed .NET through wine so you will need to get help from people that have developed .NET applications in WINE, sorry
[15:30] <mackjones> ftp, telnet,etc?
[15:30] <zortec> donri: did you try a system search for it?
[15:30] <uaneme> telnet don't do that
[15:31] <uaneme> use ssh
[15:31] <zortec> donri: if you are sure it was successfully installed
[15:31] <Lungan> zortec, Okok, but can you recommend another way to install my program since it complain about an error since I dont have the dodnetfx35setup
[15:31] <mackjones> what if i want to SSH into my system
[15:31] <kleftisx> hello i have install Ati drivers and when i restart i was only able to see a black screen, then i have boot in recovery mode and remove ATI drivers and now the monitor goes to sleep mode. any suggestions?
[15:31] <_qUaNtUm_> ActionParsnip: another thing, i temporary unplugged my monitor from a running linux system to use it on another pc, meanwhile linux will keep running right? it doesnt need the monitor to run, we need it to see whatz goin on but itz not needed by the pc right? :D
[15:31] <mackjones> OH, how do I set up SSH?  FTP?
[15:31] <uaneme> ssh is port 22 but you also need to install ssh server
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> !info aisleriot | donri
[15:31] <donri> zortec, i have a /usr/share/gnome-games/aisleriot/games/freecell.scm
[15:31] <Younder> kotslon, moral! don't give people what they want. Give them what they need.
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> _qUaNtUm_: sure its fine. i even removed my ps2 keyboard and plugged it ack in and was ok
[15:32] <eremite> Off Topic:  Does anyone know of a channel where they discuss comic books?  Also, breaking news: Mininova is basically dead.
[15:32] <uaneme> mackjones: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
[15:32] <_qUaNtUm_> ActionParsnip: thanks :D
[15:32] <wulfgang> !ssh
[15:32] <uaneme> that link has all the ports listed
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> !info ace-of-penguins | donri
[15:33] <Younder> kotslon, I just saved you from someone craking your computer
[15:33] <Shambat> I'm using rsync to send some files from my svn to my production server ... for some reason though, som files are not sent, and there are no errors ..
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> eremite: i'd head to offtopic
[15:33] <Shambat> a folder called "core" and all subdirs and files are not sent for some reason
[15:33] <zortec> Lungan: just read some quick information on .NET in ubuntu and compatibility is poor in WINE and not recommended
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Shambat: does the rsync owner have read access to the data?
[15:33] <kotslon> Younder, yeah :)  but i still can't understand what shoud i do :) thanks for the link - i'l try to figure out what is that :)
[15:33] <zortec> Lungan: take a look at other alternatives such as monodevelop, mono, or eclipse
[15:34] <uaneme> to install ssh   # sudo apt-get install ssh
[15:34] <Younder> kotslon, seach for SFTP
[15:34] <Lungan> zortec, yeah I have installed monodevelop, but I dont know what to do now?
[15:34] <zortec> donri: how are you searching for the file?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: ubuntu comes with openssh-client
[15:34] <donri> zortec, locate
[15:35] <donri> zortec, i also see it for gnome-games in synaptic
[15:35] <uaneme> but openssh server is not installed by default
[15:35] <mackjones> uaneme - I used aptitude to install ftp-server and ssh-server
[15:35] <zortec> Lungan: You need to run the configure script and then type "make" in the console window
[15:35] <donri> scratch that, i mean aisleriot
[15:35] <mackjones> uaneme - now how do i set up ftp user accounts?
[15:35] <Lungan> zortec, how?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: the server isnt, the client is
[15:35] <zortec> Lungan: do you know how to open up a terminal?
[15:35] <uaneme> depends on what ftp server you installed
[15:36] <Lungan> zortec, yep, and I know sudo
[15:36] <Shambat> ActionParsnip: yeah I do
[15:36] <mackjones> aptitude install ftp-server
[15:36] <zortec> Lungan: ok go to the dir where monodevelop was installed and you should find a configure script
[15:36] <zortec> Lungan: You will type ./configure and run the script and then when it's finished, type make
[15:36] <DrRobinTosh> aanyone heard of KeryX?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Shambat: hmm, is there a command to give rsync to tell it to update everything rather than just the changes? Like do a full backup rather than a differential
[15:37] <uaneme> i do everything with ssh , i don't know the ftp details
[15:37] <zortec> donri: The one in gnome-games seems to be more likely what you are looking for
[15:37] <kotslon> Younder, SFTP is similar to FTP, so FTP clients can connect to it?
[15:37] <jbuncher> ActionParsnip, why would you want to do that?
[15:37] <piper69> ActionParsnip: i am very sorry , but there is no md5 file for me to download
[15:37] <Shambat> ActionParsnip: I tried deleting the whole thing and re sending it but still, it ignores that one folder
[15:37] <piper69> i will be checking in M$
[15:37] <zortec> Younder: They are very similar, SFTP is secure ftp and FTP is just the standard FTP protocol just like telnet and SSH
[15:38] <Lungan> zortec, I installed with apt-get install monodevelop shouldn't the program be ready to go then?
[15:38] <uaneme> mackjones: ssh also can do file transfers
[15:38] <donri> zortec, gnome-games is just a meta package for among others, aisleriot
[15:38] <hkais> I am getting since few days a odd ispell popup if I type ctrl-space. How can I disable it?
[15:38] <zortec> Lungan: do you find it in the gnome or kde menu?
[15:39] <zortec> Lungan: if it was installed through synaptic, there would be a menu entry for it
[15:39] <sameer> hi! using ubuntu. unable to use bluetooth dialup in blueman. intend to use internet via bluetooth from my nokia mobile. pl help
[15:39] <zortec> donri: who is aisleriot that you keep talking about?
[15:39] <uaneme> does anyone know how to get a DVD mounted?
[15:40] <zortec> uaneme: do a search on the ubuntu forum for how to mount a dvd and you will get a faster answer
[15:40] <uaneme> for some reason i cant get any DVD mounted
[15:40] <solcero> i try to copy an dump file with 10 GB , but after excatly 4 GB i get a message "file too large" anyone a idea ?
[15:40] <sameer> can any one help me with using bluetooth dialup in blueman in ubuntu 9.10
[15:40] <zortec> solcero: Why are you trying to copy such a large file?
[15:40] <uaneme> i looked on the forum zortec but all that didn't work
[15:40] <mattgyver> uaneme, are you trying to mount it via command line?
[15:41] <Younder> zortec, they ARE deliberatly simular
[15:41] <uaneme> i tryed to edit fstab
[15:41] <Shambat> ActionParsnip: I found out that I have to include files named "core" because rsync excludes them ... they are typcailly core dumps I guess
[15:41] <KelderP> upgraded a jaunty system which uses active directory for authentication to Karmic, now I can not login anymore if the system is connected to the network (so connection to active directory) Anyone?
[15:41] <donri> zortec, it's a package, solitaire games in gnome
[15:41] <uaneme> and installed libdvdcss
[15:41] <Shambat> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help though :)
[15:41] <zortec> uaneme: Try udo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[15:41] <xjkx> pendrive detection problem http://pastebin.ca/1688207
[15:41] <solcero> ist a vid file of my virtualbox , i need it on my other USB HD
[15:41] <Younder> zortec, but you are lsee likely to break SFTP
[15:41] <Younder> less
[15:41] <zortec> uaneme: Try udo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[15:41] <ZaNeIuM> anyone know why my connection speed from my xbmc-linux (zotaca330) to my windows smb  is only 3MB/s ? but if i switch that system to win7 (zotac) im getting 12MB/s
[15:41] <DrRobinTosh> HAppy Turkey Day!
[15:42] <zortec> sudo mount not udo by the way
[15:42] <sameer> HELP NEEDED - want to use internet thru blueotth DUN of blueman.pl guide
[15:42] <totoy> hey guys, sorry to interrupt im VERY new to ubuntu, whats the best way to learn about ubuntu, is there a manual or something i can read  : ) somehow perhaps
[15:42] <ZaNeIuM> the system serving the smb share is win vista (same-consistant), my zotac is dualboot, ubuntu 9.10 and win7
[15:42] <uaneme> zortec: doing that now
[15:42] <cow25salemba> solitaire just for MS windows
[15:42] <hkais> I am getting since few days a odd ispell popup if I type ctrl-space. How can I disable it?
[15:42] <uaneme> zortec no medium found on /dev/sr0
[15:43] <ZaNeIuM> when logged it with unbuntu im only getting 24mbs, and movie playback stutters
[15:43] <cba123> Anyone know how to get apple trailers to play on Karmic again?  Apparently they are blocking anything that doesn't say it's quicktime in the http header from streaming
[15:43] <sebsebseb> totoy: Ubuntu Pocket Guide
[15:43] <sebsebseb> !new |  totoy
[15:43] <totoy> sebsebseb: thanks
[15:43] <zortec> uaneme: you have to confirm that /dev/media/cdrom0 is the location of your dvd drive
[15:43] <sebsebseb> totoy: np
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> cba123: reinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras   maybe
[15:43] <zortec> uaneme: /media/cdrom0
[15:44] <Ubee> How do I uninstall the unstable version of Google Chrome from my computer?
[15:44] <uaneme> i changed fstab    /dev/scd0 to /dev/sr0
[15:44] <zortec> Ubee sudo apt-remove google-chrome or chrome whatever the package is called
[15:44] <xXedixXx> Hello
[15:44] <xXedixXx> I need some help with ubuntu please :)
[15:44] <uaneme> a data DVD does mount tho
[15:44] <zortec> Ubee: or just use synpatic which would be easier
[15:44] <xXedixXx> Are there any specific ubuntu 9.10 help channels?
[15:45] <uaneme> but a MOVIE DVD does NOT mount
[15:45] <zortec> uaneme: yes but you need to know where your dvd drive is located in your system
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> cba123: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LifeWithUbuntu?highlight=%28quicktime%29
[15:45] <uaneme> i see
[15:45] <D_K_2> xXedixXx this is it
[15:45] <xXedixXx> Alright.
[15:45] <xXedixXx> Can anyone help me with Ubuntu 9.10 please?
[15:45] <zortec> uaneme: take a look at this thread on the ubuntu forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=466248
[15:45] <D_K_2> xXedixXx !ask
[15:45] <xXedixXx> !ask
[15:45] <uaneme> ok thanks
[15:45] <xXedixXx> !ask Wireless connection
[15:45] <sameer> can anyone help with how to setup DUN in blueman for acessing internet via bluetooth from my mobile
[15:46] <ironfoot> n8ature: OK I'm back that last transaction dropped my server to the ground I guess it's back to the drawing board?
[15:46] <xXedixXx> The bot doesn't work...
[15:46] <iceroot> xXedixXx: just ask your real question to the channel
[15:46] <D_K_2> xXedixXx if you have a question, type it out and hopefully someone can help you with an answer
[15:46] <zortec> The bot has a select list of keywords that it can help you with
[15:46] <xXedixXx> Okay, I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my netbook and it works great, connects to the internet etc...
[15:46] <uaneme> zortec i also did that already
[15:46] <cba123> ActionParsnip, I did that already, this blocking non-quicktime agents in the http headers is recent
[15:46] <ironfoot> When I redone the /etc/network/interfaces it did not like that configuration.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> sameer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup
[15:46] <xXedixXx> I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my sister's laptop earlier and I can't connect to the wireless network.
[15:46] <solcero> its possible to copy moren than 4 GB with the cp comand?
[15:47] <xXedixXx> It says: Wireless "disconnected"
[15:47] <grawity> solcero: cp does not care about the file size.
[15:47] <xXedixXx> And I've manually typed in the SSID and Key
[15:47] <donri> zortec, solved, as i suspected, locale related. freecell has a *really* weird name in swedish.
[15:47] <iceroot> xXedixXx: chipset?
[15:47] <xXedixXx> And double checked it
[15:47] <xXedixXx> Ermmm
[15:47] <xXedixXx> I'll need to find out the chipset
[15:47] <zortec> donri: ah glad you solved it :)
[15:47] <ironfoot> n8ature any other ideas???
[15:47] <the_madman> I've got shader support back, thanks :D
[15:47] <iceroot> !enter | xXedixXx
[15:47] <xXedixXx> Is there a quick way to find the chipset in ubuntu?
[15:47] <igie> I connected my machine (9.04) to my tv but i can't change my resolution to anything greater than 800x600 any reason why...
[15:47] <zortec> donri: unfortunately don't know swedish so wouldn't be able to help in that respect
[15:47] <D_K_2> xXedixXx do you know the model of the laptop?
[15:47] <solcero> grawity: but why i cant do it ? :) i get a message "file too large"
[15:47] <uaneme> zortec thanks i just got a few ideas  :-)  gonna try now
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> xXedixXx: if you run: sudo lshw -C network    you will see the chip it uses, websearch for that, if its a broadcom 43xx use this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[15:48] <xXedixXx> Presario 2100
[15:48] <grawity> solcero: You're copying to a USB drive?
[15:48] <Ubee> How do I remove the unstable version of Google Chrome from my computer. I
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> igie: whats the output of : lspci | grep -i vga
[15:48] <zortec> Ubee: Did you look for the package in synaptic like I told you?
[15:48] <solcero> grawity: yes that right
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Ubee: use software centre or synaptic
[15:48] <iceroot> Ubee: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[15:48] <zortec> Ubee: You can also search using "search" for the package name
[15:48] <grawity> solcero: Almost always, USB drives come formatted using FAT32, which has a limit of 4 GB. (Or worse, FAT16 - 2 GB.) To get past that limit, you need to change the filesystem...
[15:49] <Ubee> how do I look for the unstable version? I am a neophyte on Ubuntu.
[15:49] <igie> ActionParsnip: its not a PCI card, its from the motherboard
[15:49] <Snausages> igie: a lot of tvs and tv outputs on video cards can't handle anything higher
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> igie: its still attatched to the pci bus
[15:49] <zortec> Ubee: Take a look at the installed packages in synaptic, open up your package manager
[15:49] <Ubee> i could not find the program on software center.
[15:49] <xXedixXx> BRB
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> igie: trust me, it'll tell you
[15:49] <igie> ActionParsnip: ok let me check
[15:49] <grawity> solcero: ...NTFS is the recommended one if you're going to use that USB drive on a Windows computer. Install gparted and ntfsprogs using apt-get (or using Synaptic).
[15:49] <iceroot> Ubee: installed with a deb? or with *.tar.gz?
[15:49] <zortec> Ubee: Let me get the name of the package, hold on please
[15:49] <Ubee> deb
[15:49] <D_K_2> ActionParsnip thats the terminal magic that keeps me here learning ubuntu
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> D_K_2: its nearly all i use
[15:50] <n8ature> ironfoot:  which last transaction?   what do you mean by dropped it to the ground?
[15:50] <zortec> Ubee: Try sudo apt-remove chromium-browser
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> igie: same as webcams in laptops show up in lsusb as they are attatched to the usb bus
[15:50] <D_K_2> ActionParsnip someday for me, though i do like the gui
[15:50] <solcero> grawity: ah ok  thx, i only work in VirtualBox and i want to use my vid file in windows and ubuntu.
[15:50] <seyfarth> My mother just bought a new netbook, and I've convinced her to let me install Ubuntu Netbook over its Windows 7. You wanna talk about Thanksgiving? I just saved myself hours of late-night tech support calls that would've been of great cost to my eternal soul.
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> D_K_2: if it works for you, greta :D
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> *great
[15:51] <zortec> Ubee: You need to use the terminal to do that, if you didn't know
[15:51] <grawity> solcero: So install ntfsprogs and poke me when it's done.
[15:51] <xXedixXx> Yeah the chipset is a Broadcom 43
[15:51] <xXedixXx> Thanks
[15:51] <iceroot> !broadcom | xXedixXx
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> seyfarth: install ssh and setup port forwarding too so you can connect from miles away and fix stuff :)
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> seyfarth: as well as over lan
[15:52] <Ubee> in terminal in says " command not found.
[15:52] <zortec> Ubee: command not found?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> xXedixXx: np man
[15:52] <n8ature> ironfoot:  other ideas?  well, if you are setting this server up for the first time, which is appears that you are since you don't have internet working yet, then i would just reinstall it making sure you choose to let DHCP do the networking
[15:52] <Ubee> I am in the terminal screen
[15:53] <zortec> Ubee: You are not typing the right thing... sudo apt-get remove chromium-browser
[15:53] <zortec> Ubee: Sorry I left out the apt-get part
[15:53] <igie> ActionParsnip: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> igie: told ya ;)
[15:54] <igie> ActionParsnip: you were right ;)
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> igie: if you sling that into a search engine you'll find guides
[15:54] <igie> ActionParsnip: thanks ;)
[15:54] <Ubee> message read:  E: Couldn't find package chromium-browser
[15:54] <zortec> Ubee: What is E?
[15:54] <zortec> Ubee:  oh error... that was just what I thought the package name might be
[15:54] <zortec> Ubee: you will need to search for the package name
[15:55] <Ubee> how do I find the pacakage name?
[15:55] <robin0800> Ubee: google-chrome?
[15:55] <zortec> Ubee: Try apt-cache search chrome
[15:55] <totoy> is there or is there not a way to run itunes in ubuntu?
[15:55] <zortec> Ubee: apt-cache search chromium
[15:56] <zortec> totoy: There is but it's a bit complicated
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> zortec: Error
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> zortec: E == error
[15:56] <zortec> ActionParsnip: Yeah I got that :)
[15:56] <Flare-Laptop> totoy: You don't need too, banshee can do everything iTunes can :D
[15:56] <totoy> zortec: how complicated is complicated : )
[15:56] <zortec> ActionParsnip: I thought back to my calculator days
[15:56] <alabd> it's required to have JRE that can be built , and should  not be from sun
[15:56] <t0rc_> I have a server without a monitor and I would like to simply pop a CD in it and and install an OS over the network. Is there a Live CD that automatically starts an SSH server or something like that ?
[15:56] <zortec> Ubee: Any luck on removing chrome?
[15:58] <sync3times> t0rc  might be some that will install via serial console
[15:58] <zortec> totoy: Feel free to check it out: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> zortec: haha like it
[15:59] <yacc_> Wondering if Ubuntu can deal with having to uncrypt multiple PV to get it's root fs?
[15:59] <driqq> can anyone suggest me a MP4 video tagger with GUI?
[15:59] <uaneme> zortec i changed the fstab to its original and now mount /media/cdrom0  -o unhide gives me an error popup
[15:59] <zortec> ActionParsnip: I was not lying ;)
[15:59] <zortec> uaneme: are you still trying to mount a DVD?
[15:59] <uaneme> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[15:59] <pfred1> can anyone tell me how to install java plugin?
[15:59] <uaneme> mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[15:59] <uaneme> mount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[15:59] <uaneme> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sr0 is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[15:59] <FloodBot2> uaneme: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:59] <uaneme> yes
[15:59] <Flare-Laptop> !java | pfred1
[15:59] <zortec> uaneme: how come you keep coming up with sr0?
[16:00] <ironfoot> n8ature:  I have internet I don't have the capability to see other machine on my network that's the problem???!!!
[16:00] <zortec> uaneme: It should be media/cdrom
[16:00] <fahadsadah> zortec: Incorrect.
[16:00] <uaneme> not sure  zortec
[16:00] <Flare-Laptop> !samba | ironfoot
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> zortec: its the device name of the drive, mine is sr0 too
[16:00] <fahadsadah> /dev/sr0 is the block device the LiveCD sees
[16:00] <fahadsadah> /media/cdrom is it's mount point
[16:00] <zortec> ActionParsnip: mine is not sr0... mine is /media/cdrom1 I think
[16:00] <uaneme> thats what the error said
[16:00] <fahadsadah> sr0 errors usually mean bad disk
[16:01] <lovestoryhoangtu> lovestoryhoangtuech11
[16:01] <lovestoryhoangtu> lovestoryhoangtuech11
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> zortec: no, thats the mount point it mounts to /dev/sr0 is the block device, just like /media/usbmount is the mount point and /dev/sdc1 is the block device
[16:01] <lovestoryhoangtu> dungniit
[16:01] <fahadsadah> Op?
[16:01] <solcero> grawity: thx , its works now
[16:01] <uaneme> bad disk?  it worked on other DVD platers but now i want to view it on my pc
[16:01] <Flare-Laptop> lovestoryhoangtu: ????
[16:01] <zortec> ActionParsnip: ok, sort of understanding mount points and devices a little better now
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: put the disk in the drive and open VLC, click file -> open disk
[16:01] <fahadsadah> uaneme: Possibly bad driver then.
[16:02] <bradpitt> what packages is should install from medibuntu to make 3gp audio (amr) works? amrnb or amrwb?
[16:02] <om26er> my brother's computer have two hardrives both sata. fedora is installed on both. when i install ubuntu(karmic) on a partition of a drive grub shows the OS of the other hardrive but not the OS on which i install ubuntu
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: if its a video DVD you do NOT mount it
[16:02] <uaneme> o
[16:02] <uaneme> why not?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: its accessed raw
[16:02] <t0rc_> is there a way to image my current system install and put it on another system?
[16:02] <uaneme> i seeeee
[16:02] <brianherman> Happy thanksgiving everybody!
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: you will need libdvdcss2 from the medibuntu repo
[16:03] <uaneme> i have that
[16:03] <zortec> can anyone still help me out with my quick problem I think? I need to fix the grub menu so that I can boot into jaunty since right now it boots right into windows and I can't press -esc- to see the boot menu and I am running off a live-cd
[16:03] <GhostPup> t0rc: Try partimage or monorescue
[16:03] <Symmetria> errr, stupid question, but what exactly do I apt-get to get hold of the linux kernel source to do a manual rebuild
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: as dvd is not playable with a vanilla ubuntu due to weird laws in some coutries
[16:03] <t0rc_> GhostPup, gparted do it?
[16:03] <uaneme> zortec i had that once and i fixed it with Gparted Live CD
[16:04] <GhostPup> t0rc_: gparted is for editing partitions
[16:04] <brianherman> zortec: what partition is your windows loaded on
[16:04] <zortec> uaneme: I know ActionParsnip and iceroot told me to get a live-cd and repair the grub menu, but I am not sure what to type
[16:04] <uaneme> o damn... it's an English DVD and i'm in the netherl;ands
[16:04] <pfred1> Symmetria doesn't sound stupid to me I have to do it too.
[16:04] <zortec> The main problem is I can't boot into my linux install that I have because it goes straight to windows
[16:04] <t0rc_> GhostPup, gracias
[16:04] <GhostPup> t0rc_: You can also use something like FOG
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | zortec
[16:05] <GhostPup> No probs t0rc_
[16:05] <zortec> better question, how can I check that I still have jaunty installed on here and have not lost it?
[16:05] <uaneme> zortec i used the grub repair option by default
[16:05] <brianherman> zortec: you can also uncomment the hiddenmenu line in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:05] <uaneme> o right grub 12
[16:05] <GhostPup> t0rc_ whoops that should have been mondorescue!
[16:05] <amgarching> !acroread
[16:05] <uaneme> 2
[16:06] <brianherman> zortec:http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/29/tweaking-grub-ubuntu-510-6061-610/#comment-1383
[16:06] <uaneme> tricky
[16:06] <KelderP> close
[16:06] <KelderP> CLOSe
[16:06] <amgarching> Hi, what is the package name for adobe acrobat reader in karmic?
[16:06] <Trovador_z> hello, I'm having trouble installing tomcat6, i deleted /etc/tomcat6 and apparently that's causing problems, I tried apt-get remove all tomcat packages and reinstalled them, but still doesn't work.. is there a way to cleanup the /etc/tomcat6 dir, and /var/lib/tomcat6 ?
[16:06] <zortec> there is nothing in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:06] <fahadsadah> I don't believe Adobe Acrobat is made for linux.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> zortec: look at the installed modules in /lib/modules   the kernel versions there will tell you what is installed
[16:06] <zortec> weird... where did my jaunty go?
[16:06] <Flare-Laptop> fahadsadah: Not true
[16:06] <llutz> zortec: you have to mount your jaunty-partition first
[16:06] <pfred1> fahadsadah the reader is.
[16:06] <fahadsadah> Oh?
[16:06]  * fahadsadah stands corrected
[16:07] <llutz> zortec: /boot shows you the live-cd
[16:07] <uaneme> guys i'll try a reboot (windoze style...) i think my fstab details are not systemwide the same
[16:07] <fahadsadah> amgarching: You'll need to enable the multiverse repo
[16:07] <Flare-Laptop> !pdf | amgarching
[16:07] <fahadsadah> !multiverse | amgarching
[16:07] <zortec> llutz: ok so is there a way to fix my grub menu from within the live-cd?
[16:07] <llutz> zortec: "sudo fdisk -l"
[16:07] <zortec> I didn't see an option to repair grub menu off this 8.10 live-cd
[16:07] <llutz> zortec: look for "Linux" partitions
[16:07] <bradpitt> what packages is should install from medibuntu to make 3gp audio (amr) works? amrnb or amrwb?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> zortec: you can boot to the live desktop then chroot to the installed system to find out whats going on
[16:07] <nikitis> Can you copy a volume group of drives to a single bigger drive bit for bit?
[16:08] <Miklos> I'm having some trouble figuring out the 'add new printer' part. I want to add a Zebra 2824 label printer and it's supported in cups, but there are now zebra drivers to choose from. It says on the openprinting db that it works 'perfectly' but is not included in 'foomatic'.
[16:08] <jetienne_> q. where do i tune the power management ?
[16:08] <uaneme> thanks everyone , i'm back in a flash
[16:08] <Miklos> I've searched google but still stuck
[16:08]  * Connection error. You have been disconected from the server. Please reconnect.
[16:09] <zortec> it is showing an NTFS, Linux and Linux swap partition when I "sudo fdisk -l"
[16:09] <epinky> Connection: lol
[16:09] <Flare-Laptop> Connection: Don't.
[16:09] <llutz> zortec: "sudo mount /dev/<linux-partition> /mnt"
[16:09] <Connection> okay okay, I'm sorry ;P
[16:09] <llutz> Connection: f... off
[16:10] <zortec> llutz: what do I put in place of <linux partition>?
[16:10] <amgarching> what is the command name for System->Administration->Software sources? I am in KDE, menu is not available.
[16:10] <llutz> zortec: the result from fdisk -l
[16:10] <zortec> llutz: sudo mount /dev/sda3/mnt
[16:10] <grawity> Connection: Next time login to NickServ.  By using Realtek manager in win i can manage the audio that when i put my headphones i have audio only in the headphones and not in the monitor, and when i remove them i have audio in the monitor. is there something like this ?
[16:11] <jtaji> amgarching: software-properties-gtk
[16:11] <zortec> llutz: ok, it has been mounted
[16:11] <GhostPup> nikitis, what was the question again?
[16:11] <llutz> zortec: sudo nano /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:11] <epinky> nikitis: man dd
[16:11] <nikitis> GhostPup: Can i do a bit for bit copy of a volume group of drives to a single drive?
[16:12] <nikitis> epinky: i know about dd
[16:12] <nikitis> but will it work?
[16:12] <nikitis> in that situation?
[16:12] <GilPS> Boa tarde! Vim infernizar vocês! :) Hehehehe perguntas sobre webcam!
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nikitis: you can use partimage to make an image then spit it onto a bigger partition, or you can use dd to write the data bit by bit from source to destination
[16:12] <zortec> is that menu.lst as in "lion" or 1st?
[16:12] <dr4g> How to add an existing user to an existing group? I tried useradd -g <group> <username> and it says "<username> already exists"
[16:12] <llutz> lion zortec
[16:12] <epinky> nikitis: afaik yes it'll work
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> zortec: like list
[16:12] <GhostPup> nikitis, I would do what epinky sez
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> zortec: without the i
[16:13] <Flare-Laptop> !english | GilPS
[16:13] <llutz> zortec: chose a readable font :)
[16:13] <zortec> llutz: it keeps coming up an empty file
[16:13] <Dougal> I'm failing to get abcde to work, it's a command line tool for ripping CDs. The config file is set to use " /dev/cdrom" as the source but i'm getting "CDROM device cannot be found."
[16:13] <zortec> llutz: I'm probably screwing up
[16:13] <Dougal> I'm just dabbling, don't really know what I'm doing and trying to figure it all out as I go. I'm stumped on this one though, any advice?
[16:13] <GilPS> Opss Sorry!
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Dougal: try: sudo lshw -C drive
[16:13] <GhostPup> nikitis: You might also try the dump command or partimage
[16:13] <llutz> Dougal: take /dev/sr0
[16:13] <Flare-Laptop> GilPS: No problem
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Dougal: you will get a list of drives including the optical drive and its aliases, you will most likely find its /dev/sr0
[16:14] <llutz> !chroot | zortec
[16:14] <zortec> llutz: I see what I am doing wrong... trying to do "sudo nano /mnt/dev/sda3/menu.lst" which doesn't exist
[16:14] <llutz> zortec: sudo nano /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst       <- i gave you
[16:14] <amgarching> jtaji: thanks!
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> zortec: if you are in the live cd the path to the file will be in a mount point in media
[16:15] <zortec> llutz: ok I have the menu.lst file open
[16:15] <llutz> zortec: check for hiddenmenu/timeout
[16:16] <amgarching> so I added this to apt sources "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic multiverse" still cannot find acroread. What is the package name on your system?
[16:16] <llutz> ActionParsnip: he mountet to /mnt
[16:16] <zortec> ActionParsnip, llutz: You have to forgive me, but the last couple months I have been in windows and traversing using dos and the windows file system :)
[16:17] <zortec> llutz: hiddenmenu is active and timeout is set to 0
[16:17] <epinky> amgarching: http://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/otherversions/
[16:17] <llutz> zortec: #hiddenmenu, timeout 5
[16:18] <pluhngz> hello, running win 7 inside of vbox on top of ubuntu 9.10, i have guest tools installed in the vista vmachine......how do i enable cross OS file drag/drop  i thought thats supported once guest tools installed?  from ubuntu desktop to the vista desktop in the window etc, and vice versa
[16:18] <llutz> zortec: or whatever you want it to be
[16:18] <Dougal> Ahhh! google has helped me! I wanted /dev/sr0 instead. Thanks all.
[16:18] <zortec> llutz: I just want to get in and then I can play around with the timeout value and other menu settings :)
[16:18] <amgarching> epinky: thanks, but this will not give you updates, in case there are any
[16:18] <llutz> zortec: set #hiddenmenu, timeout 5  now and change later then
[16:19] <zortec> so I must have been really confused... boot.ini in windows has nothing to do with why I can't see the grub menu but it was because I changed some values in menu.lst
[16:19] <epinky> amgarching: updates are important :) good luck
[16:19] <llutz> zortec: confusing because you can boot linux via windows boot.ini, but thats not recommended
[16:20] <zortec> just one more question before I go, I know ActionParsnip told me to upgrade and see if I run into any problems and if so do a clean install, about how long does it take to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 anyway?
[16:20] <amgarching> epinky:  its here: echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner"  >> /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update; aptitude install acroread
[16:21] <GhostPup> zortec: When I did it took a few hours
[16:21] <D_K_2> zortec upgrades take a while, usually 30 min if you have a decent ISP and ok computer
[16:21] <zortec> I should leave it running for a while
[16:21] <zortec> my connection is ADSL
[16:21] <GhostPup> zortec: But I have a lot of stuff on my machine
[16:22] <D_K_2> zortec itll take a while just to download
[16:22] <llutz> zortec: if jaunty works for you, ne need for upgrading
[16:22] <llutz> no*
[16:22] <zortec> are the chances of it having problems likely? I kind of want a best guess answer on this :)
[16:22] <llutz> zortec: never touch a running system :)
[16:22] <GhostPup> zortec: I have a 100 Meg connection till the end of the year man I'm gonna miss it after that!
[16:22] <zortec> I have read on the ubuntu forum that people had a lot of problems upgrading
[16:22] <coz_> zortec,  it depends on the speed of your internet connetion  and partially your hard drive speeds as well
[16:22] <fahadsadah> zortec: I didn't upgrade, but just reinstalled
[16:23] <fahadsadah> If you want to upgrade though, go ahead
[16:23] <fahadsadah> Manually, but not with update-manager
[16:23] <alabd> anyone knows where *.so of openjdk jre is  in linux
[16:23] <Dumbix> hi all
[16:23] <Dumbix> I don't know wy my squid proxy is too low and heavy, is there any suggestion ?
[16:23] <llutz> alabd: dpkg -L openjdk.... (packagename)
[16:23] <zortec> now I am kind of mixed up, is it a good idea to upgrade or just keep jaunty and wait for 10.04 to come out?
[16:23] <Asad2005_> Is it possible to upgrade from 904 to 910 with 910 cd only no internet connection?
[16:23] <coz_> zortec,   but  a clean install will take about 15 minutes or so ...after having downloaded  the cd
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> zortec: depends how many packages you have installed
[16:24] <D_K_2> zortec you arent missing much, maybe empathy if you dont like pidgin
[16:24] <llutz> zortec: ask 10 persons to get 15 different answers
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> zortec: my / takes up little over 2gb which will be significantly faster than someone who has to download compiz / open office / gimp etc which i dont have
[16:24] <llutz> zortec: you even wont win anything
[16:24] <zortec> I want the power of ext4 and grub2 though... which is what I thought you get when you upgrade to karmic
[16:24] <zortec> but then I was told you only get it if you do a clean install
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> zortec: you can convert ext3 to ext4 but you wont get the full ext4 functionality
[16:25] <llutz> zortec: ext4 needs fresh filesystem, noupdateing
[16:25] <GhostPup> zortec: Fastest/Easist way is to re-install
[16:25] <coz_> zortec, well do eliminat  any possible  buggie behavior ,, I would clean install
[16:25] <llutz> zortec: and grub2.... i haven't seen any improvement yet
[16:25] <zortec> I'm torn between an upgrade/fresh install/or just leave 9.04 and wait until april to upgrade again
[16:25] <llutz> zortec: use 9.04, wait for 10.04 and think again
[16:26] <AspireZ> helloo
[16:26] <zortec> how does empathy compare to pidgin or do I want to know?
[16:26] <coz_> zortec,   I see no advantage of grub2  at this point
[16:26] <KaiForce> my 9.04 upgrade hung after fetching all files - is this a known issue?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> llutz: can i pm you a quick sec please
[16:26] <llutz> ActionParsnip: sure
[16:26] <coz_> zortec,   I prefer pidgin  althouh I really dont use  and chat clients
[16:26] <D_K_2> zortec pidgin has wayyy more options ATM but empathy will improve quickly
[16:26] <AspireZ> is there channel for arab people for ubuntu ?
[16:27] <zortec> AspireZ: my guess is probably not...
[16:27] <AspireZ> ok
[16:27] <epinky> !sa> AspireZ
[16:27] <KaiForce> Is there any way to restart the upgrade process without re-downloading all
[16:27] <Asad2005_> Is it possible to upgrade from 904 to 910 with 910 cd only no internet connection?
[16:27] <zortec> does ext4 give you a 5-10% performance boost in file operations?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> zortec: or use carrier :)
[16:28] <peterSK1> Asa2005_: of course
[16:28] <Asad2005_> I mean distru upgrade
[16:28] <calwig> hi, how do I get Java Virtual Machine on Ub8.04 installed? Which package is it
[16:28] <zortec> ActionParsnip: what is carrier?
[16:28] <KaiForce> zortec: file system performance is a function of workload
[16:28] <coz_> Asad2005_,   yeah  you should be able to upgrade  to a point...what will happen is that the cd will opnen the upgrade manager
[16:29] <peterSK1> Asad2005_: have you tried google?
[16:29] <AspireZ> ubottu : talk to me plz in priavte
[16:29] <ZaNeIuM> i was having problems with video playback stopping and someone told me to remove pulse audo, but doing sudo apt-get remove pulse* , now my desktop on longer starts
[16:29] <IdleOne> Asad2005_: yes, using the Alternate install cd
[16:29] <zortec> KaiForce: I thought it was a function of your filesystem and the type of hard drive you have such as scsi, sata, or and if you are using a raid system
[16:29] <kostkon> !info sun-java6-jre | calwig
[16:29] <KaiForce> zortec:  hardware aside
[16:29] <calwig> hi, how do I get Java Virtual Machine on Ub8.04 installed? Which package is it (For Firefox!)
[16:29] <aeon-ltd> calwig: you mean sun virtual machine?
[16:29] <Asad2005_> ok thanks all
[16:29] <KaiForce> by that I mean apart from your hardware
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> zortec: its a fork of pidgin, but the devs like direct suggestions so you can email them stuff you want adding etc
[16:30] <pfred1> calwig at least the documentation mentions tour version!
[16:30] <alankila> aeon-ltd: search for something along the lines of sun-java6-jdk
[16:30] <kostkon> calwig, sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin
[16:30] <Asad2005_> I will d/l alternate cd
[16:30] <zortec> you can still use empathy in 9.04 right?  I know it's usually not advised to mix gnome and kde apps because you get a slow system
[16:30] <zortec> so I try to stick with just exclusively gnome or kde, not both
[16:30] <sirkamilo> This is generally polish or international
[16:30] <IdleOne> zortec: yes you can, empathy is in the 9.04 repos
[16:30] <sirkamilo> oh i se
[16:30] <sirkamilo> see
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> zortec: just more bloat on the HDD, otherwise you can mix away
[16:31] <pfred1> zortec yeah? I've done it for years and never noticed.
[16:31] <LjL> !pl | sirkamilo
[16:31] <calwig> aeon-ltd, well I have an email program thru ff that asks me to have Java VM installed. I have sun-java6-bin/jre installed but it doesnt load
[16:31] <kostkon> calwig, after installing give this in terminal: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[16:31] <zortec> of course the last impression I had of kde when I used it was that there was too much fireworks and it really got in your way of being productive, maybe that changed in 9.10
[16:31] <D_K_2> ive noticed when running KDE on gnome more processes have to be run, thus slowing down your system
[16:31] <pfred1> zortec though launching a KDE app in gnome is a bit slow.
[16:31] <alankila> kostkon: I usually recommend hunting down every gcj-related package and uninstalling them, but that's just a bit too complicated to do for beginner.
[16:32]  * alankila hates gcj
[16:32] <kostkon> alankila, yeap
[16:32] <KaiForce> how are the reviews of karmic?  I like what I've seen so far
[16:32] <Subby> is there allready a 64bit 10.1 libflashplayer.so ?
[16:33] <GilPS> Good afternoon! I came a little trouble! :)
[16:33] <zortec> has canonical released any info on what will be in 10.04 and what the codename is?
[16:33] <GilPS> As I did not find the forum in my language or in GOOGLE. I ended up here! :)
[16:33] <Flare-Laptop> zortec: Lucid Lynx
[16:33] <zortec> I know it is really early :)
[16:33] <kostkon> !ubuntu+1 | zortec
[16:33] <GilPS> It's about webcam. My webcam works with AMSN, CHEESE and SKYPE.
[16:33] <aeon-ltd> calwig: is java that neccessry, cos i have it but disabled it because of it's "uselessness" in reality
[16:33] <kostkon> oops
[16:33] <DJones> !lucid | zortec
[16:34] <calwig> kostkon, still doesnt work
[16:34] <GilPS> But does not work with camorama, motion and effectv.
[16:34] <GilPS> Does anyone have any idea of what can be?
[16:34] <vini__> algum brazuka ? preciso tirar algumas duvidas :D
[16:34] <D_K_2> GilPS - type your question/problem in one sentence/paragraph
[16:34] <calwig> kostkon, i think the website has an issue
[16:34] <DJones> !br | vini__
[16:34] <zortec> Karmic Koala is a cool name but Lucid Lynx... hmm wonder about those names
[16:34] <zortec> they say there is a lot to be said in a name
[16:34] <kostkon> calwig, did you restart your browser
[16:34] <calwig> kostkon, www-s-mail.com (can you click on Sign-Up)
[16:34] <GilPS> ok
[16:34] <alankila> aeon-ltd: java is useless by itself. It's all about finding software written in java that you want to run, of course.
[16:34] <kostkon> calwig, let me check
[16:34] <calwig> kostkon, restart yep
[16:34] <KaiForce> zortec:  how is karmic koala any cooler than lucid lynx?
[16:34] <Ubee> I have a question for anyone
[16:35] <Guest38123> It's always nice to be Lucid after you've been Karmic
[16:35] <pfred1> alankila all I want is the browser plugin enabled here.
[16:35] <coz_> Ubee,  shoot
[16:35] <zortec> KaiForce: maybe I just have an affinity for koalas
[16:35] <KaiForce> could be
[16:35] <alankila> pfred1: that? I suspect it's called sun-java6-plugin
[16:35] <calwig> kostkon, ok thanks, the sign up site uses java. I will check with another website my java settings. See if this s-mail site is bugged
[16:35] <D_K_2> zortec- you know what? you are missing "upstart" by not upgrading. supposed to speed up boot, but ive seen my boot-time lengthen by atleat 5 seconds
[16:35] <KaiForce> there is an airline that has a different animal on the tail of every one of their airplanes.  they should do a promotion with canonical
[16:36] <zortec> D_K_2: upstart?
[16:36] <nutzer_> hallo
[16:36] <kostkon> calwig, yeah something happened. it crashed by browser :S
[16:36] <D_K_2> !upstart
[16:36] <pfred1> alankila I appear to have the lib package installed etc just looking for the instructions for my version of Ubuntu so far all docs i see stop at 8.04 I have 9.1
[16:36] <zortec> D_K_2: but if it increased your boot time, I am not sure I trust it unless it's another one of those features that only works if you do a full install
[16:36] <alankila> pfred1: I doubt anything has changed. I'm sadly on win32 so I can't validate whether it really works.  I want to set up ubuntu on my laptop with SSD and want to ask if there are any porblems with ubuntu and ssd (destroying SDD, making it slow...)
[16:36] <calwig> kostkon, lol ok yours went worse, mine just stopped and showed a readable error to click on if nothing happened
[16:37] <alankila> I think last time I enabled java was to see some interactive charts at mathworld
[16:37] <bradpitt> what packages i should install from medibuntu to make 3gp audio (amr) works? amrnb or amrwb?
[16:37] <calwig> kostkon, ok so the site is faulty. all good then thanks
[16:37] <coz_> zortec,  you are on 9.04 right now?
[16:37] <KaiForce> Marove:  I think you'll be fine.
[16:37] <kostkon> calwig, :)
[16:37] <zortec> coz_: yes
[16:37] <pfred1> alankila I wish my ISP felt that way their page seems to need java
[16:37] <D_K_2> zortec - i think its just not perfected. the lynx is gonna be great though
[16:38] <zortec> coz_: oh wait if you mean have I logged into 9.04? not yet
[16:38] <KaiForce> for all of you that responded to my query about the upgrade, which is nobody, restarting it seems to have gotten me past the logjam.
[16:38] <coz_> zortec,  well I have 9.10 installed... I fond nothing particularly special about grub2   and the boot sequence in 9.10 karmic is sluggish at best...once in the system it is decent  but not perfect...i would  name karmic an experimental release more than anything
[16:38] <Dumbix> is there someone who ever worked with : squid-squidGuard as a proxy ?
[16:38] <nooga> weird stuff: i've got llvm and llvm-gcc packages installed and i can't seem to find llvm-gcc command but other llvm-* commands exist
[16:38] <calwig> kostkon, http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html <-- java works here
[16:38] <aeon-ltd> coz_: grub boot sequence or ubuntu itself?
[16:38] <GilPS> My webcam works with AMSN, CHEESE and SKYPE. But does not work with camorama, motion and effectv. Does anyone have any idea of what can be?
[16:38] <Ubee> test
[16:39] <D_K_2> coz_ - completely agree on the test release
[16:39] <Marove> kaiforce: if there are many write and read-actions on ssd it will be destroyed, but there are a way, that this doesn't happen (i know it from windows 7) is this function also in ubuntu kernel?
[16:39] <zortec> coz_: I will stick with 9.04 for now and see what is in store for lucid lynx
[16:39] <aeon-ltd> Ubee: your question was 'test'?
[16:39] <Ubee> i was just seeing if I was online
[16:39] <LjL> coz_: so, it's not the most wonderful thing in the world, but it works. isn't that the definition of a stable, not "experimental", release?
[16:39] <kroraina> me too
[16:39] <zortec> Ubee: there are other ways to see if you are online than type "test"
[16:39] <coz_> aeon-ltd,  well the boot sequence is not good  and the version 9.10 is strickly experimental and therefor  ,,,in my opinion .. not all that trustworthy
[16:39] <kostkon> calwig, yeah. thus, something's wrong with the java applet on s-mail.com
[16:39] <KaiForce> Marove:  I think wear leveling is built into the SSD and not a function of the OS, but maybe I'm wrong.
[16:39] <Jimi_Neutral> i had to go back to intrepid cause karmic would not work with clonezilla
[16:40] <Ubee> My enter key does not work and I can only enter by using the enter key on the chatzilla screen. What could have happened?
[16:40] <Jimi_Neutral> something to do with its bootscripts
[16:40] <bradpitt> GilPS : i have same problem, but i guess my cam is fine if i can view it with Cheese
[16:40] <pfred1> coz_ 9.1 is an experimental version?
[16:40] <coz_> zortec,  i would wait until april unless  you have something that needs to be changed on the system with some of the new libraries
[16:40] <coz_> pfred1,  at best  ... in my opinion...yes
[16:40] <Random832> after resuming from hibernate I have several problems - cannot connect to non-WEP wireless networks, video is screwed up in text mode consoles, lsmod/rmmod/etc hang.
[16:40] <Guest32372> I have a weird problem. I deleted WINE and removed it from my main menu. When I reinstalled it, it doesn't show up in the menu anymore...can someone tell me where the wine menu is located so I can delete everything in it, including the programs that I installed on it.
[16:40] <Random832> does anyone know how to solve any of these?
[16:40] <pfred1> coz_ oh boy what have i gotten myself into here?
[16:40] <aeon-ltd> coz_: (no flame war please) but i've found on ubuntu on old)few years) hardware is incredibly sluggish my fastest was 9.04 56 seconds
[16:41] <coz_> aeon-ltd,  understood
[16:41] <calwig> kostkon, yeah i get to click on an error link and doesnt crash. it doesnt matter. :)  Instead do you know what to dod when the flashplugin in ff doesnt work? (but it works on all others epiphany,galeon,seamonkey)
[16:41] <zortec> I'm about to do some heavy development in C++, vb, java, and C# testing out programs... I suggested to another user to download monodevelop, if you are a programmer is that the best IDE to work in?
[16:41] <buttons840> anyone know how i can reinstall grub from a ubuntu 9.10 live disk?   i tried "sudo grub" but it says that grub is not found; it appears grub is no available on the live disk
[16:41] <pfred1> aeon-ltd your boot up? my system is circa 2002 and I wouldn't say it is that bad running 9.1
[16:41] <matthew1> (repeat, changed name) I have a weird problem. I deleted WINE and removed it from my main menu. When I reinstalled it, it doesn't show up in the menu anymore...can someone tell me where the wine menu is located so I can delete everything in it, including the programs that I installed on it.
[16:41] <kostkon> calwig, hmm. not really
[16:41] <IdleOne> coz_: where did you get the idea that 9.10 is experimental?
[16:41] <coz_> pfred1,  if it is already installed .. keep using it.... I am sure before april many of the things that are now ...ah....wanting for improvement...may be updated
[16:41] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: how fast?
[16:41] <alankila> zortec: for C# and Linux, perhaps it is. But I think Eclipse/Java beats it overall, if language can be changed.
[16:41] <KelderP> Anyone did an upgrade of a jaunty system which is configured in an Active Directory environment?
[16:42] <pfred1> aeon-ltd I never sat there with a stop watch but subjectively no more than anything else I've ever seen
[16:42] <zortec> alankila: I have used eclipse before, haven't tried out mono
[16:42] <alankila> I personally find monodevelop slow, crash-prone, and inadequate as IDE, although it beats a text editor for sure.
[16:42] <marc__> please help, I need to install Apache 2.0, but in synaptic there's only version 2.2 and if I check in the "force version" menu, it's only version 2.2 that is avaiable there... how can I install an older version??
[16:42] <zortec> alankila: eclipse has so much that I often get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of features
[16:42] <uaneme> still fighting with mount.... looks like i have copy protection at work here :(
[16:42] <kostkon> calwig, maybe you'll need to manually copy the java plugin files to firefox's folder or something like that
[16:42] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: i'm on arch right now and boot time from on switch to desktop is 28-35 seconds
[16:42] <Fitz11> Anyone wanna help me?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[16:42] <mrXX> #mysql is sleeping, can i get some help with mysql here or any other room?
[16:43] <alankila> zortec: more features > less features, imo. If they don't force themselves upon you so you can pick them up in leisure.
[16:43] <KaiForce> Fitz11:  sure.  your problem is your question mark key is stuck.
[16:43] <aeon-ltd> fitz11: please no spam and yes
[16:43] <coz_> IdleOne,  well first grub2 is beta.... and beta is always experimental....and in my opinion...a script driven boot loader is  not even necessary...there are other things  and karmic is certainly not my favorite of the versions already out there  but  I am not sure this is really the place for this :)
[16:43] <pfred1> aeon-ltd might be twice that long I don't know but I usually don't boot up so it is moot to me
[16:43] <kostkon> !patience | Fitz11
[16:43] <Fitz11> HAHAHA Do u know about the dell mini 10v with ubuntu
[16:43] <calwig> kostkon, java? this is about flash.
[16:43] <calwig> kostkon, its ok dont matter anyway
[16:43] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: so you just suspend at night and wake in the morning?
[16:44] <randomuser> why does my xorg.conf from ubuntu not work in other distros?
[16:44] <pfred1> aeon-ltd I don't boot up my refrigerator when I wish a snack from it either :)
[16:44] <kostkon> calwig, ah sorry, yeah you said flash. my bad
[16:44] <mrXX> anyone mysql guy here?
[16:44] <pfred1> aeon-ltd no i just turn off my monitor
[16:44] <zortec> mrXX: what kind of help you need?
[16:44] <uaneme> is it wise to set the unhide option in fstab on a cd player?
[16:44] <pfred1> aeon-ltd I've run computers like that for years now
[16:44] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: wow. whats your power bill like?
[16:44] <mrXX> zortec i want to just know what info i get when i export a table structure
[16:44] <pfred1> aeon-ltd a PC may add $6 a year
[16:45]  * buttons840 fears windows has screwed up his ubuntu partition when it tried to boot from it
[16:45] <mrXX> zortec can i show you the copy paste
[16:45] <Fitz11> UBOTTu can u help me
[16:45] <zortec> it depends what you choose to export under phpmyadmin which is what I generally use
[16:45] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: thats insane is this a micro-ATX you running?
[16:45] <Fitz11> me
[16:45] <GilPS> bradpitt, But I need, get it to work with motion! :) This is the problem!
[16:45] <Marove> kaiforce: it's named TRIM and i think its a OS thing
[16:45] <pfred1> aeon-ltd regular desktop
[16:45] <aeon-ltd> Fitz11: thats not how bots work
[16:46] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: no heavy tasks like 3d rendering or compiling?
[16:46] <pfred1> aeon-ltd not when I am away usually no.
[16:46] <zortec> !ubottu help > Fitzll
[16:46] <mrXX> zortec http://paste.ubuntu.com/328610/
[16:46] <calwig> kostkon, no bads,you helped earlier on Java, its appreciated :)
[16:46] <alankila> anyway, imo, the largest problem about C# on Linux in practice is that all instructions you find are for windows and visual studio, and that means a very slow discovery process is necessary, often reading the class library source as the only real documentation. Mono has to be commended for being a reasonable C# and class library reimplementation, but in practice it's a world of pain to actually deal with it.
[16:47] <kostkon> calwig, :)
[16:47] <mrXX> zortec what is the difference of the 'email' between line 5 and 13
[16:47] <zortec> alankila: so are you trying to say that developing in C# on linux is going to be painful and difficult?
[16:47] <KaiForce> Marove:  looks like TRIM only affects old SSDs?
[16:47] <alankila> indeed, that has been my experience.
[16:47] <zortec> alankila: hopefully not the same for other languages such as java and visual basic
[16:47] <KaiForce> i mean the problem that TRIM addresses
[16:47] <buttons840> can grub be installed from a ubuntu 9.10 live disk?   With previous ubuntu disks you could "sudo grub" and quickly install only grub, but on the 9.10 disk it says "grub: command not found"
[16:48] <wasutton3-1> what is a good program to transcode a folder of files
[16:48] <KaiForce> buttons840:  can't you install grub
[16:48] <KaiForce> then run it?
[16:48] <coz_> buttons840,  no grub2 doesnt work that way   you may want to go to #grub   channel for more indepth info
[16:48] <alankila> zortec: I think that I can only recommend java from the managed world. Java on Linux is pretty good, and the same tools that people run on windows are generally available on linux, as it is overall much more platform neutral. You'll always hurt from using a fringe platform otherwise, but Java has only one platform, the "java platform".
[16:49] <randomuser> wasutton: video files? handbrake. hands down.
[16:49] <buttons840> coz_, is it more difficult than before?
[16:49] <marc__> anyone know how to install older version of package?
[16:49] <Marove> kaiforce: oh realy? my ssd is a new ssd.. ok i will check my local computer-expert ;) thank you for your help
[16:49] <alankila> it doesn't matter if the underlying OS is windows or linux, although OS X is not well supported for some unbelieveable reason.
[16:49] <init[1]> buttons840: boot with that CD and use chroot
[16:49] <IdleOne> !grub2 | buttons840
[16:49] <wasutton3-1> randomuser: but can it add an entire folder at once?
[16:49] <KaiForce> Marove:  ok, good luck.
[16:49] <coz_> buttons840,  it is way different than grub legacy  so in that respect it is  a bit more difficult  because of that
[16:49] <Marove> kaiforce: thank oyu
[16:49] <trupheenix> i need help i'm unable to ping to my new ubuntu laptop from my old ubuntu laptop through my wifi router
[16:50] <zortec> mrXX: there is no difference in the "email" fields in line 5 and 13
[16:50] <zortec> mrXX: in line 5 you create a field called "email" and in line 13 you have set up an index for status_2 to use "email"
[16:51] <q0_0p> where can i find libgtk2.0-0?