[19:11] <monolith> and I can't kill process 1 without shutting myself out
[19:11] <monolith> What can I do?
[19:13] <lasersaber> monolith: ##hackers
[19:13] <monolith> I guess
[19:14] <monolith> It's invite only
[19:14] <lasersaber> two hashes
[19:15] <monolith> Says I'm banned?
[19:15] <monolith> Weird, I've never joined before
[19:15] <monolith> Maybe my nick was used by someone else?  Pretty sure bans are IP based though
[19:15] <lasersaber> ##linux is pretty active right now
[19:16] <monolith> Alright, have to register though
[19:16] <BlueShark> monolith: Bans can be based on anything, including your nickname. Bans based on hostnames, IPs, and account names are common as well.
[19:17] <monolith> Still banned
[19:17] <J_B0N3> I am running Xubuntu and trying to configure the trackpad settings.  Using the GUI I can modify the acceleration and sensitivity settings but they do not give me the 'acceleration ramp' I would like.  I know I can configure using the synaptics conf and cli but I don't know which variables to tune.  The man pages don't provide much detail. Any help would be appreciated.
[19:20] <BlueShark> monolith: kiwiirc clients are banned in that channel.
[19:20] <Noidea> mshey
[19:20] <monolith> Oh
[19:20] <monolith> Heh
[19:20] <Noidea> hi
[19:20] <monolith> I guess its' just snobbery
[19:20] <Noidea> need help!
[19:21] <Dako300> Noidea: with what?
[19:28] <Mikerhinos> Hi guys. I'm using a website to do my financial/bank account management. Recently they started to have problems with adding my auto things, like electricity bill every month etc...So it messed up my maths for the end of the months lol. Is there any good Linux software to do this thing ? I tried Homebank but it can't get categories from my .csv export file :/
[19:29] <ducasse> Mikerhinos: gnucash, maybe?
[19:30] <J_B0N3> Gnucash is probably the best FOSS option.
[19:31] <Mikerhinos> Ok I saw it on a review but it seemed more oriented to small business, I'll give it a shot so, thx ducasse and J_B0N3 :)
[19:31] <J_B0N3> It's like a stripped-down version of quickbooks.  It's a double-entry accounting system.
[19:38] <sulfasal> Anybody here use Flacon. I made some flac files but where are they?
[19:40] <sulfasal> No errors reported
[19:42] <sulfasal> Nevermind, found 'em ;)
[19:42] <Morno> @sulfasal: try and use the find command :) try find urfilehere
[19:43] <geirha> that's not the right way to use find
[19:44] <Morno> how is the right way? :P im new to some of linux commands :)
[19:44] <neptunepink> My system is hanging while booting. I get this last line in the console: Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount
[19:45] <geirha> Assuming it would be somewhere under your homedir (~):  find ~ -iname "*part-of-filename*"
[19:46] <ioria> neptunepink, have you installed uswsusp ?
[19:47] <neptunepink> ioria: How can I tell?
[19:47] <ioria> neptunepink, dpkg -l uswsusp , if you can login to a console or via recovery
[19:48] <neptunepink> Hmm, I could chroot in.
[19:48] <neptunepink> I'm on a USB key.
[19:48] <ignacio> wow
[19:48] <ignacio> do you fit in there? jk.
[19:48] <ioria> neptunepink, it should be a bug , workarounr remove uswsusp https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1568341
[19:49] <neptunepink> gah, 32bit key
[19:49] <ioria> neptunepink, you can also try another kernel
[19:49] <neptunepink> That is something I forgot to try.
[19:49] <user3> hi
[19:50] <zerohimself> hey guys, i need some mdadm raid 5 adivce.. first time setup (and yes w/ ubuntu), am i in the right place?
[19:50] <neptunepink> Mmm, yes, I did install & have been using hibernate stuffs.
[19:51] <ioria> neptunepink, check the link i posted, and see if it suits you
[19:52] <nicholasthan> i try to install linux ultimate on usb, but it doesn't boot, what might i do wrong?
[19:53] <ppf> zerohimself: sure
[19:53] <ppf> !ask
[19:54] <ppf> nicholasthan: how does it not boot
[19:54] <OerHeks> NickG365, linux ultimate is not an officialubuntu version, not sure they have an irc channel
[19:54] <yeats> nicholasthan: /join #UltimateEdition
[19:55] <zerohimself> alright, does mdadm support more than 4 usb3 devices in arrays?
[19:55] <nicholasthan> i create usb bootable with dd, but when i try to boot only blinking cursor
[19:55] <zerohimself> *in a raid 5 array
[19:57] <Dako300> nicholasthan: If i'm not mistaken, not all live CD ISOs can be burned to USB and booted. What image speficially are you flashing?
[19:58] <Raulwynn> Is anyone farmilliar with awesome?
[19:58] <tomreyn> zerohimself: i have never tried, but i don't see why not. it won't perform that well, though, due to the nature of USB (especially the S in USB)
[19:58] <nicholasthan> ultimate edition 5.1
[19:58] <OerHeks> nicholasthan,  linux ultimate is not an officialubuntu version,  /join #UltimateEdition
[19:58] <nicholasthan> Sorry, thank you
[19:58] <zerohimself> i wasn't expecting real ata speed out of the setup.. just a big NAS with redundency
[19:59] <OerHeks> nicholasthan, tip: 'sync' after dd, might help
[19:59] <zerohimself> on a sbc that runs ubuntu
[20:00] <Evan_GG> so, is there a fork of xchat that still has tabs of the channels on the bottom?
[20:00] <elichai2> hey
[20:00] <elichai2> I've asked it a few days ago but didn't get a good answer
[20:00] <Evan_GG> oh here we go
[20:00] <elichai2> how can I change the maximum open files limit to non-root users?
[20:00] <OerHeks> Evan_GG, hexchat is a fork of xchat, it has that option
[20:01] <nicholasthan> OerHeks thank you, i will try
[20:01] <tgm4883> elichai2: what answer did you get?
[20:01] <elichai2> tgm4883, "why would you need that?"
[20:02] <Raulwynn2> Does anyone have any experience with Awesome Window Manager?
[20:02] <tgm4883> elichai2: because I don't want to bother giving you the same answer...
[20:02] <elichai2> I think it's 100% ok to want to change the limit from 1024 to 8192
[20:02] <elichai2> tgm4883, I meant that was the answer lol
[20:02] <ppf> !ask | Raulwynn2
[20:02] <tgm4883> elichai2: oh lol
[20:02] <neptunepink> Well, let's see if I can upgrade the USB install to 64-bit while it's running 32-bit. Could be entertaining.
[20:02] <ducasse> Raulwynn2: there's a channel for it, #awesomewm or something similar
[20:03] <tgm4883> elichai2: I'm not sure who gave you that answer, but that's dumb. In any case, are you trying to increase it for a specific user?
[20:03] <ppf> ducasse: isn't that over at oftc?
[20:03] <OerHeks> neptunepink, upgrading 32 to 64 means reinstall, iirc
[20:03] <ducasse> ppf: the main channel, yes
[20:04] <neptunepink> I unplugged it too early.
[20:04] <OerHeks> neptunepink, oh you mean making an usb, that should be possible from 32 bit
[20:05] <tgm4883> elichai2: or are you trying to just do it for all users system wide?
[20:05] <elichai2> tgm4883, doesn't matter, I have only one user other than root
[20:07] <elichai2> tgm4883, that's my /etc/security/limits.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23800101/
[20:07] <frib> my touchpad doesn't tap-to-click anymore.  what can I do?  Thanks for help!
[20:08] <welcesr> Can you recommend a simple gui program to convert FLAC to MP3...I am a linux noob and not yet ready to do it with complicated stuff
[20:08] <frib> welcesr, maybe avconvert?
[20:08] <tgm4883> elichai2: that looks fine to me, although I would put a file in /etc/security/limits.d/ instead of editing limits.conf directly. Is that not working for you?
[20:08] <welcesr> frib: will give it a look thanks
[20:09] <elichai2> tgm4883, no
[20:09] <zerohimself> answer from the linux raid wiki about USB: "Do NOT use these as part of your array."
[20:09] <zerohimself> damn...
[20:09] <tgm4883> elichai2: looks like you need to edit /etc/pam.d/common-session too
[20:09] <tgm4883> elichai2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162229/how-do-i-increase-the-open-files-limit-for-a-non-root-user
[20:09] <elichai2> ulimit -a : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23800118/
[20:09] <welcesr> frib: is the full name just "avconvert"?  I know its dumb but I tend to get overwhelmed by CL stuff at this stage in my learning
[20:12] <frib> welcesr, i believe it is only cli yes
[20:12] <Pinkamena_D> looking for a command line tool to convert (almost) any format input music (ogg, mp4, etc) to mp3 output. Any suggestions?
[20:12] <tgm4883> elichai2: and you've rebooted?
[20:12] <welcesr> ducasse: I apparently have soundvonverter installed and was intimidted by it or something as I didnt use it..should try again I guess
[20:12] <frib> My touchpad is no longer able to tap to click.  So annoying!  Please help! thanks
[20:13] <welcesr> frib: any other cui suggestions?
[20:13] <welcesr> gui
[20:13] <OerHeks> elichai2, you need to edit 2 files, /etc/security/limits.conf and /etc/pam.d/common-session* >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21515463/how-to-increase-maximum-file-open-limit-ulimit-in-ubuntu
[20:13] <frib> welcesr, avconv is good though, you can find examples on google.  used to be called ffmpeg i believe
[20:13] <frib> it's not very complicated
[20:13] <elichai2> tgm4883, yes
[20:13] <ducasse> welcesr: i think soundconverter is the easiest gui program you will find
[20:13] <elichai2> OerHeks, you can see i've pastebin'd these files
[20:14] <benpicco> Hi, I get libncurses5 : Depends: libtinfo5 (= 5.9+20140118-1ubuntu1) but 6.0+20160625-1ubuntu1 is to be installed. When I run apt-get -f install it wants to remove essential system packages. How do I fix this?
[20:14] <tgm4883> elichai2: odd, let me finish this battle and I'll see if I can reproduce it
[20:14] <neptunepink> As a consolation prize, I was able to netcat the iso over to another box.
[20:14] <OerHeks> elichai2, oh, my bad, carry on
[20:14] <frib> welcesr, avconv -i "$song" -metadata album="$1" -metadata comment="Jingle" -b 192k "$output"
[20:14] <welcesr> ok next question..I have a dual install with Elementary in front of Xubuntu....looks like this http://i.imgur.com/BC2dnSh.png and I want to remove Elementary and reclaim that 127gb for my Xubuntu install...but I get confused reading about it...is there a simple way that wont break the system since Xubuntu isnt on a bootable partiation?
[20:14] <frib> EASY AS PIE
[20:14] <elichai2> tgm4883, ok
[20:15] <Guru> hey all :)
[20:15] <Guest32623> is there somone who could help me with
[20:15] <welcesr> ive been advised a few differing things in the past and gave up due to contradictions and confusion
[20:16] <welcesr> but am running out of space on Xubuntu side enough I need to fix it or just start over if Ihave no choice
[20:16] <Raulwynn> How can I disable all panels in xubuntu? It won't let me delete the last one.
[20:17] <benpicco> (fixed it by installing libtinfo5 5.9+20140118-1ubuntu1 manually)
[20:18] <ducasse> Raulwynn: iirc, the last panel can't be disabled, but ask in #xubuntu to be sure. or make it as small as possible and set to hidden?
[20:18] <Guru0123> hey
[20:19] <tgm4883> elichai2: hmm, works fine here. Do you see any error messages in /var/log/syslog ?
[20:19] <Guru0123> i have a small concern on my Laptop could somone help me out?
[20:19] <ducasse> !ask | Guru0123
[20:19] <Guru0123> i have dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 10 but for some reason i am not able to enter the safe mode for windows , it gives a blank page when it loads
[20:21] <elichai2> tgm4883, sorry, i'm back
[20:21] <tgm4883> elichai2: any error messages?
[20:22] <Guru0123> Is there anyone who could help me out? :)
[20:22] <tgm4883> elichai2: I just made the two changes we discussed, rebooted and it works
[20:22] <tgm4883> Guru0123: that would seem to be a Windows issue right?
[20:22] <elichai2> really
[20:22] <tgm4883> elichai2: yep
[20:22] <elichai2> what should i search for in syslog?
[20:22] <ioria> Guru0123, old thread , but you can try http://askubuntu.com/questions/135509/how-would-i-boot-into-the-ubuntu-and-windows-recovery-modes-if-i-removed-the-opt
[20:22] <Raulwynn> ducasse, I'm trying to get help on the #awesome IRC and I think their servers are down or something. Even the one on their webpage is dead. Anywho, I think that xfce isn't going to work well with awesome, What would anyone suggest?
[20:23] <elichai2> tgm4883, tried on a non-rooted system?
[20:23] <elichai2> ubuntu?
[20:23] <tgm4883> elichai2: hmm, maybe 'grep -i err /var/log/syslog' and see if any of that looks relevant
[20:23] <ioria> Guru0123, <f8 key, they say
[20:23] <ducasse> Raulwynn: xfce does not work well with other wms in general
[20:23] <tgm4883> elichai2: my desktop is ubuntu mate 16.10
[20:23] <Raulwynn> ducasse, I realized that quite quickly
[20:24] <Raulwynn> So what would be a good replacement for XFCE
[20:24] <elichai2> tgm4883, wow, now as I saw it I need to clean my logs lol
[20:24] <Guru0123> Loria f8 for windiws 7 , is it possible for windows 10?
[20:24] <elichai2> i have logs from July
[20:24] <elichai2> does it make sense that the latest one is from Aug?
[20:24] <ioria> Guru0123, seems valis also foe win8... nothing to loose
[20:24] <tgm4883> elichai2: you should have stuff from today in there
[20:24] <tgm4883> elichai2: is this a standard ubuntu desktop install?
[20:24] <ducasse> Raulwynn: that depends entirely on your habits and preferences, you will need to test a few things and see.
[20:25] <elichai2> without the error grep I have stuff from today
[20:25] <ioria> Guru0123, http://superuser.com/questions/408309/make-grub-2-boot-windows-8-safe-mode
[20:25] <tgm4883> elichai2: is this a standard ubuntu desktop install? A server install? A rented VPS?
[20:26] <elichai2> standard desktop
[20:27] <ducasse> Raulwynn: my preference is just a good wm and the individual tools i want, if you want a full de you might find lxde more to your liking.
[20:27] <tgm4883> elichai2: not sure then. my desktop isn't far from standard
[20:28] <elichai2> tgm4883, how far?
[20:28] <Raulwynn> ducasse, I want tiling. I use dmode or dword (Whatever it's called)
[20:28] <Guru0123> Loria ill give a try becuase i only have one system with  ubuntu working fine but i am dead in the water of windows due to WshShell.run error, Windows\run.vbs issue which i need to enter safe mode to end that process and unistall t
[20:29] <tgm4883> elichai2: I've an updated mesa
[20:29] <ducasse> Raulwynn: then just find a tiling wm you like, i use i3, and set up the tools you need.
[20:30] <Guru0123> or is there anyway we can unistall an application which was installed in windows through Ubuntu? buy sorting out by date? or is there any option that way?
[20:30] <elichai2> tgm4883, how can I debug this? maybe change it more hard core?
[20:30] <ioria> Guru0123, not very good in windows, but maybe the win rescue disk can help you
[20:30] <lasersaber> brb
[20:31] <neptunepink> The chroot thing was a wee bit janky, but I got uswsusp removed. Thanks for the help!
[20:31] <Guru0123> i have a Pendrive with bootable windows 10 but again i am helpless how to move further
[20:32] <ioria> Guru0123, #windows
[20:33] <ducasse> isn't it ##windows?
[20:33] <ioria> will redirect, i guess
[20:33] <Guru0123> ioria: thanks
[20:33] <ioria> np
[20:33] <Guru0123> ioria: ill try to gather some information from thee
[20:33] <ioria> ok
[20:34] <frib> my touchpad shows up in both /proc/bus/input/devices and xinput -- I think my xorg configuration is messed up making 'tap-to-click' not work
[20:34] <frib> but I dont know how to fix it.  please help, ty
[20:35] <frib> ioria, the solution to the bluetooth issue was 'pactl load-module module-bluez5-discover'
[20:35] <ioria> frib, good
[20:36] <frib> the unity control app still can't initiate connections but I can through bluetoothctl
[20:36] <frib> i think maybe the unity app didn't upgrade to support bluez5 (apparently new?)
[20:37] <cfoch_> hi
[20:37] <cfoch_> how do I disable OpenGL support?
[20:37] <J_B0N3> I am running Xubuntu and trying to configure the trackpad settings.  Using the GUI I can modify the acceleration and sensitivity settings but they do not give me the 'acceleration ramp' I would like.  I know I can configure using the synaptics conf and cli but I don't know which variables to tune.  The man pages don't provide much detail. Any help would be appreciated.
[20:37] <tgm4883> elichai2: what's the output of "cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max"
[20:37] <elichai2> 1207618
[20:37] <frib> how can I fix my touchpad xorg configuration seeing as it does not click ?
[20:37] <ioria> frib, i got issues with bt too, using another de solved, and for unity the cli has been usefull
[20:38] <elichai2> when i'm inside su I run 'ulimit -n 8192' and it works
[20:38] <elichai2> but I can't run it outside of su
[20:38] <frib> what is "De" ?
[20:38] <ioria> desktop environment (unity, gnome, lxde , etc .etc )
[20:38] <frib> oh ok
[20:39] <J_B0N3> frib: check out this page if you are using they synaptics driver https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
[20:39] <J_B0N3> If you are comfortable using command line..
[20:39] <ioria> frib, if you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf , you can try to backup it and restart
[20:40] <tgm4883> elichai2: do you have anything in /etc/security/limits.d/
[20:40] <elichai2> tgm4883, no, empty
[20:40] <tgm4883> elichai2: this is ubuntu desktop 16.10?
[20:41] <frib> ioria, i dont.  but I do have /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/[lots of files]
[20:41] <elichai2> tgm4883, yes
[20:41] <frib> how can I just reset the configurations to the defaults?
[20:41] <ioria> frib, nope, that's different
[20:41] <frib> idk
[20:41] <Guru0123> ioria: god!, no responses in #windows
[20:41] <ioria> frib, try another kernel from grub
[20:41] <frib> how can I just reset to the 16.04 defaults?
[20:42] <tgm4883> elichai2: I'm not sure if it's worth the effort firing up a VM to test that it works. I'm pretty sure it's something with your system. Did you do some major changes?
[20:42] <ioria> Guru0123, be patient
[20:42] <frib> ioria, how do you catch grub menu again?
[20:42] <Guru0123> tgm4883: Yes looks like its  a windows issue but only thing is i just want to enter the safe mode in windows 10
[20:42] <elichai2> tgm4883, I do change stuff but I don't remember changing anything about file limits
[20:42] <ioria> Guru0123, shift
[20:43] <Guru0123> ioria: did those
[20:43] <Guru0123> ioria: ill try again
[20:43] <ioria> Guru0123, sy, that was for Frickelpit
[20:43] <tgm4883> elichai2: I mean like PPAs, custom kernel, 3rd party packages?
[20:43] <ioria> Guru0123, sy, that was for frib
[20:44] <elichai2> tgm4883, sure, I have lots of PPA and 3rd patry packages, but no custom kernels
[20:45] <elichai2> tgm4883, sorry
 tgm4883, sure, I have lots of PPA and 3rd patry packages, but no custom kernels
[20:46] <frib> ioria, changing kernel doesn't seem to have done anything
[20:46] <frib> i believe the synaptics driver is loaded and xorg can see it (xinput lists it)
[20:46] <ioria> frib, are your updated ?
[20:46] <frib> ioria, idk
[20:47] <frib> how do you do that
[20:47] <ioria> frib, cat /etc/issue
[20:47] <frib> says Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \n \;
[20:47] <frib> \l
[20:47] <HiddenDjinn> does anyone use alpine for their email?
[20:47] <ioria> frib, uname -r
[20:47] <HiddenDjinn> if so, i could use someone's google-fu...getting confused by something i used to do easily
[20:48] <frib> 4.4.0-57-generic
[20:48] <elichai2> tgm4883, what do you think about putting it inside bash profile? https://stackoverflow.com/a/8285278/1621927
[20:48] <frib> (usually i use 59)
[20:48] <ioria> frib, current is 59
[20:48] <frib> ioria, yeah because you told me to try a different kernel this time
[20:48] <ioria> frib, yes
[20:48] <frib> so that's why i'm in 57 now
[20:48] <ioria> frib, ok, when stopped working  ?
[20:49] <frib> i'd say a couple months ago
[20:49] <javafiend> hello
[20:49] <frib> i was trying to configure the touchable area adding options in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[20:49] <frib> but they didn't work and I didn't even notice when it messed up the clicking ability
[20:49] <tgm4883> elichai2: you already said that doesn't work
[20:49] <elichai2> sorry, my connectivity is bad
[20:50] <elichai2> tgm4883, I haven't tried appending it into profile
[20:50] <frib> but even if i take out those changes it doesn't seem to revert to working!  which is why I wanted to reset all those config files to the defaults
[20:50] <elichai2> when I run 'su - elichai2'  it does work
[20:51] <ioria> frib, if you don't have a xorg.conf or installed something weird , or set some  compiz options there is few to reset
[20:52] <frib> ioria, then what do i do?
[20:52] <stoner19> alright ubuntu friends...I needed a new computer ASAP so the best option was to go snag one from one of the big box retailers. Obviously this comes preinstalled with another OS. Is it possible to just install Ubuntu to a separate partition, wipe that other OS and then merge the partitions so that Ubuntu utilizes the full HDD?
[20:52] <tgm4883> elichai2: I just copied and pasted the lines you used into mine, swaped our usernames and it still works for me. Not sure why it's not working for you. As for the bash_profile thing, it depends on what your end goal is. If you need to increase the open file limit because of something you're trying to run, then it's possible that fix won't work for you
[20:52] <ioria> frib, you can try Recovery and Resume
[20:52] <tgm4883> stoner19: why wouldn't you just install over the top of the other OS
[20:53] <frib> ioria, why this then? http://askubuntu.com/questions/290009/how-do-i-make-my-synclient-settings-stick
[20:53] <elichai2> tgm4883, it's a python script I run sometimes
[20:53] <stoner19> tgm4883 I need to get ubuntu rolling right now, get everything going. but if for some reason this PC isn't enough I would return it and get a different one
[20:53] <ioria> frib, you said you removed those file
[20:53] <ioria> *s
[20:54] <tgm4883> stoner19: if the PC isn't enough? Sounds like you need to research more for your needs
[20:54] <stoner19> but the store I'm sure won't take it back if I give it back to them with windows missing from it
[20:54] <tgm4883> elichai2: out of curiosity, what does it do?
[20:54] <elichai2> open lots of threads and talk with a lot of nodes.
[20:54] <elichai2> I know that's not how you should do it but it's not my script
[20:54] <frib> ioria, no there were a lot of files there. i only edited 1.  but i'm not sure if i am reverting back exactly to how it was before i made changes.
[20:54] <elichai2> and I can't really change it
[20:54] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, how about this: try ubuntu with a usb boot...if everything appears to work(wifi, sound, etc), it is enough and you can, at your leisure, install it
[20:55] <tgm4883> elichai2: eh, sounds a bit wonky but it sounds like the bash_profile thing would work for you
[20:55] <stoner19> HiddenDjinn can I install everything and still run it from the USB? Does booting it from a USB utilize all hardware?
[20:55] <tgm4883> elichai2: really though it sounds like the script needs fixed
[20:55] <frib> ioria, brb
[20:56] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, if you have a large enough live file, you can install stuff onto the live os and run from usb
[20:56] <elichai2> tgm4883, I know, but that's not up to me really
[20:56] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, and running from usb will utilize all hardware it can see
[20:56] <tgm4883> well, not the SSD/Hard Drive obviously
[20:57] <HiddenDjinn> tgm4883, and for obvious reasons
[20:57] <stoner19> hmmm, actually it probably isn't a big deal to remove windows now that I think about it. HDD is 1TB, which I'll never come close to filling up for my needs
[20:57] <stoner19> maybe I just leave the windows partition and allocate 500GB to ubuntu and call it good.
[20:58] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, and if you want to sell or give the computer, with windows, to another person, deleting ubuntu and restoring it to a full windows system is not a big deal
[20:58] <Guru0123> ioria: no luck on f8 and Shift f8
[20:59] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, assuming you don't delete the recovery partition
[20:59] <soee> is there any ppa with xorg 1.19 for Xenial ?
[20:59] <stoner19> yeah, that may just be the best option. Thanks for listening HiddenDjinn ;)
[20:59] <ioria> Guru0123, iirc, there is a rescue console  in the win disk
[20:59] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, no problem
[21:00] <Guru0123> ioria: sorry?
[21:00] <ioria> Guru0123, you need to remove an app from windows, right ?
[21:01] <Guru0123> ioria: Yes
[21:01] <ioria> Guru0123, so try the rescue disk
[21:01] <Guru0123> ioria: from?
[21:01] <winpen> hello guys, did someone already install windows 7 over ubuntu ?
[21:02] <Guru0123> ioria:  i dont have any Rescue disk
[21:02] <HiddenDjinn> ioria, most machines don't come with rescue disks nowadays
[21:02] <ioria> Guru0123, you said you had a rescue usb...
[21:02] <Guru0123> ioria: i have tried that , its of no use
[21:02] <Guru0123> ioria:  i mean i created a windows bootable disk
[21:03] <Guru0123> ioria: which shows repair your computer , when i recover , it says your drive is locked
[21:03] <ioria> Guru0123, locked ?
[21:04] <Guru0123> Yeah it gave me something like that
[21:04] <ioria> Guru0123,  i'd keep asking in #windows
[21:04] <Guru0123> ioria: probably because there is login credentials for windows 10
[21:04] <ioria> Guru0123, no idea sorry
[21:04] <Guru0123> ioria: i am doing the same , no response mate
[21:05] <Guru0123> ioria: feeling so ignored
[21:05] <ioria> Guru0123, come on...
[21:05] <Guru0123> ioria: lol
[21:05] <ioria> Guru0123, find out why you can't use the rescue disk
[21:06] <Guru0123> ioria: okay will try
[21:06] <ioria> Guru0123, good luck
[21:06] <n4no`> or rm -rf and compile debian
[21:17] <welcesr> Anyone have advice how to repartition without screwing up? I have Elementary in front of Xubuntu but the Xubuntu isnt a bootable partition...like this http://i.imgur.com/BC2dnSh.png
[21:17] <welcesr> I want to remove Elementary and get that spce back for Xubuntu
[21:20] <hwpplayer1> is here a place that i can argue "gamifying or not gamifying the community " project ?
[21:20] <hwpplayer1> there *
[21:21] <ducasse> welcesr: linux does not care whether partitions are bootable or not
[21:22] <welcesr> ducasse: so can I just used Disks to remove the dev/sda1 elementary bootable one and enlarge the sda2 Xubuntu one after? Grub will fix itself and I will be able to boot into Xubuntu?
[21:22] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Of the 2 partitions - sda1 and sda6 - do you know which partition is the xubuntu ?
[21:22] <OerHeks> welcesr, use a live iso to remove elementary, the disk should be unmounted to do so
[21:23] <welcesr> Bashing-om: its the 123gb one with Xubuntu...I thought it was sda2 let me look
[21:24] <welcesr> I guess I am not sure...I thought sda2 was xubuntu and sda6 and the swap were under that
[21:24] <welcesr> I know that the sda1 127 is elementary
[21:24] <welcesr> obviously I dont understand partitioning well
[21:25] <welcesr> since sda 2 is 123gb and sda6 and swap add up to that I thought those were subdivisions of sda2?
[21:27] <welcesr> do I need to make sda2 extended bigger first and then make sda6 bigger?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Gow this works is that sda2 is an "extended" partition . extended being a container to hold "logical" partitions . here your logical partitions are sda5 (swap) and sda6 .
[21:28] <ducasse> welcesr: you first increase sda2, yes, then the partitions 'inside'
[21:28] <welcesr> bashing I remembered some of that...since it can only have so many partitions you make extended and then it can have unlimited inside it right?
[21:28] <welcesr> as a workaround to having multiple bootable ones
[21:29] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Well .. if ya want to call 128 logical partitions unlimited .. yeah :)
[21:29] <welcesr> sorry I mean there is a limit on logical ones right? so the extended allows more
[21:29] <welcesr> ok
[21:29] <welcesr> so how do I make sda 2 larger? just expand it over sda1?
[21:30] <welcesr> cant even find options for that
[21:31] <ducasse> welcesr: delete sda1, then expand
[21:31] <V7> Hey
[21:31] <welcesr> ok and this must be done in live usb right? cant do it when using sda6 Xubuntu?
[21:31] <V7> Could you help me with Desktop Effects in KDE Neon 5.8 ?
[21:31] <ducasse> welcesr: live usb, yes
[21:31] <V7> THey're not working .. :(
[21:31] <V7> Also ...
[21:31] <V7> This one http://i.imgur.com/WYz5ZuX.png
[21:32] <ducasse> V7: neon is unsupported here, try their channel
[21:32] <V7> Which one ?
[21:32] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Were me I would want my primary system on sda1 . The quick way here is just to RE-install xubuntu with the install option " erase disk and install ubuntu ' . Giving you a standard install . Npw if ya want th larning experience, that is something else .
[21:32] <V7> Also ... neon is based on Ubuntu
[21:32] <welcesr> ducasse: so I will end up with only one extended parition...sda2 with sda6 and swap inside it right? is that ok? do I need to select "bootable" or anything for sda2?
[21:32] <V7> Linux v7-x3 4.4.0-47-generic #68-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 26 19:39:52 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:32] <ducasse> apestate: #kde-neon, it seems
[21:32] <welcesr> Bashing-om: I was trying to avoid a resintall and fiddling with modifying everything again
[21:33] <V7> Thank you ...
[21:33] <V7> I hope they will answer me
[21:33] <welcesr> things are failry stable now and I didnt want to rock the boat and spend a day fixing everything...just need more space
[21:36] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Sure as ducasse says, you can delete sda1, expand sda2 into that now unallocated space, and then expand sda6 . 'buntu happily boots from within a logical partition . Pay attention to /etc/fstab what UUIDs get changed .
[21:38] <Bashing-om> welcesr: 121 Gigs is a lot of space ! .. What is the reason that more is required ? A thumb mark for ubuntu is 30 Gigs .
[21:38] <welcesr> media
[21:38] <welcesr> and I never use Elementary
[21:38] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Yeah .. that do say it all .. takes a lot of space .
[21:40] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Be aware in moving the partition left into what was sda1 one is also moving the paprtition table . Bad things can happen ! Be prepared with backups in the event of catastarophy .
[21:41] <Bashing-om> partition*
[21:41] <welcesr> all backed up
[21:42] <welcesr> data anyway....not configs etc as I dont know what to save and what will take problems with me if I change...so i just manually backup deta and media
[21:43] <Bashing-om> welcesr: K; be aware that in GParted, will need to "swap off " . to mess with the extended partition .
[21:43] <welcesr> thanks
[21:43] <V7> #kde-eon #kde-neon doesn't help me ...
[21:43] <V7> They said: they don't know (c)
[21:44] <ducasse> V7: well, neither do we, as you're not using ubuntu... 'based on' does not mean 'the same as'.
[21:45] <bread> hey guys! Needed help with conky
[21:45] <bread> I'm extremely new to ubuntu and conky, but it looked cool so I downloaded it
[21:46] <bread> it kinda screwed up because it didn't download a couple of files so i want to reinstall it
[21:46] <bread> how do I do that?
[21:46] <ducasse> bread: sudo apt install --reinstall conky
[21:47] <bread> i get this: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:47] <mozammel> hi, there is a process called "history.daemon'' eating up my cpu power, even I kill it from termial with root access, still its cant stop, the moment I kill it its just start with different PID. I'm using ubuntu 16.10.
[21:47] <ducasse> bread: is the ubuntu software thingy or something similar open?
[21:48] <bread> not really, just my internet browser
[21:48] <bread> let me retry
[21:48] <bread> oh wait, it somehow works now
[21:49] <bread> how weird
[21:50] <bread> okay, so after reinstalling conky, I usually got this setup screen
[21:50] <bread> it doesn't do that now
[21:50] <bread> do I simply restart my system?
[21:51] <ducasse> bread: setup screen? for what - conky?
[21:52] <bread> yeah ducasse
[21:52] <bread> usually it would ask me for my location, or something
[21:52] <ducasse> bread: no such thing here. which ubuntu version?
[21:52] <Plex_Dave> hey guys.  i have a file server in my living room with a small ssd for the os and another larger drive for my home folder.  i want to reinstall the os as it's acting hinky but I want to make sure to preserve my home folder.  all of what i have found on google is instructions for keeping a home folder on the same drive/partition.
[21:54] <bread> hmm okay
[21:56] <bread> because I want to make my desktop more "utilitarian" in a sense. Like, it'd be cool to have weather and such
[21:56] <franzer> bread, are you mistaking conky with conky-manager?
[21:56] <franzer> if i recall, conky-manager is the GUI program
[21:56] <bread> again, I am pretty much a newbie to this kind of stuff, so I wouldn't know the difference
[21:57] <franzer> if you're looking to get into conky, i would just search github, or r/unixporn for some good examples
[21:59] <xangua> bread: what desktop?
[22:00] <bread> what do you mean, xangua?
[22:01] <xangua> bread: what desktop environment you use?
[22:02] <bread> I'm planning on using Google Now or conky-vision
[22:02] <bread> using conky
[22:03] <bread> Harmattan also looks pretty guud
[22:09] <yoann_> biRd74
[22:16] <greuh> Hey everyone! Are some of you using F.LUX software? I would really like to adjust my screen brightness in addition to running f.lux. My screen brightness is set to maximum when I launch it..
[22:17] <Plex_Dave> hey guys.  i have a file server in my living room with a small ssd for the os and another larger drive for my home folder.  i want to reinstall the os as it's acting hinky but I want to make sure to preserve my home folder.  all of what i have found on google is instructions for keeping a home folder on the same drive/partition.
[22:18] <wafflejock> !flavors | bread
[22:19] <wafflejock> bread, there are different desktop environments or graphical shells for the operating system, Unity is the default with regular Ubuntu, other popular ones are Gnome, KDE, XFCE, Mate, the list of flavors are distributions that start with those desktop environments
[22:20] <wafflejock> greuh, personally use redshift not sure about that issue redshift seems to always just be based on the current time when I launch it
[22:26] <greuh> It's funny because I just tried Redshift and it is the exact same issue
[22:26] <greuh> the filter is applied but brightness can not be adjust
[22:28] <wafflejock> Plex_Dave, would just do the install with the 1 drive hooked up then copy the new home folder over to the external drive after everything is running on the system and update the /home to mount it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[22:28] <greuh> brightness is set to maximum so it produces more light than without
[22:32] <wafflejock> greuh, yeah don't think it is actually supposed to touch the brightness just the warmth -"Redshift has a brightness adjustment setting, but it does not work the way most people might expect. In fact it is a fake brightness adjustment obtained by manipulating the gamma ramps, which means that it does not reduce the backlight of the screen. Preferable only use it if your normal backlight adjustment is too coarse-grained."
[22:33] <greuh> absolutely
[22:34] <greuh> But on my windows laptop I can reduce my backlight in addition to running f.Lux who adjust the gamma ramps
[22:34] <greuh> on my Ubuntu 16.04 it is just damaging my eyes
[22:34] <greuh> FULL backlight with warms colors still burns your eyes .. lol
[22:35] <wafflejock> heh yeah I'd take the backlight dimming over the tint personally
[22:35] <wafflejock> on my system it doesn't seem to affect the backlight dimming though so must be some driver/hardware related thing
[22:37] <Plex_Dave> gotcha, thanks!
[22:42] <jnoob22> After having done an upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04, I see there are about 1200+ packages that have not been upgraded. What can I do to get these installed?
[22:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, that sounds about right
[22:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, or kind of
[22:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, actsually really would probably expect it to upgrade like everything on upgrade
[22:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> however even so may be some or moe updates to install after woulds
[22:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, are you sure it really upgraded?
[22:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, between 14.04 and 16.04 there would be quite a few changes, so having 1402 packages to upgrade may actsually be more for a whole new version of Ubuntu
[22:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !release
[22:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no no that, there's a command to check the version
[22:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !version
[22:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, also nothing you can do really, but to install those packages, which will take time of course
[22:55] <bray90820> Do you think ubuntu would be a good platform to use for a router
[23:00] <bear_> ayyy
[23:00] <bear_> Ubuntu Budgie is a official flavour
[23:00] <bear_> why doesn't it have a irc channel?
[23:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, no Ubuntu budgie is nearly an offical flavour
[23:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, as of 17.04 it will become offical
[23:01] <bear_> Stupid question time.
[23:01] <bear_> for Ubuntu flavours in general, is it safe to do a apt-get dist-upgrade from version to version
[23:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, support for it, can then happen here proerply as well. there's a ppa for 16.04 and 16.10 though I belive
[23:02] <bear_> So from 16.10 -> whatever is next
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yes
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but as long as you only do lts to lts
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or non lts to the next non lts
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no trying to skip some in between non lts versibion
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, also n trying to downgrade versions, thats totally not supported and ma ybreak your system as the bot uhmm is about to uhmm
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> tell you
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !downgrade
[23:03] <bear_> what
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, 16.10 to 17.04 when releaed is ok
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> to upgrade
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> trying to upgrade from 16.04 to 17.04 on the other hand,  is not supported,  your meant to go through 16.10 first
[23:04] <bear_> SebthreeBQM10HD, why did you go on about downgrating then...?
[23:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and trying to go back some version, is not supported
[23:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, 3 things in 1.  the 3rd you werebn't really asking about, but thought would be good to put in as well, since quite related
[23:04] <jnoob22> SebthreeBQM10HD, well it *showed* as upgrade when you run cat /etc/issue
[23:04] <jnoob22> but obviously not all packages were done.
[23:05] <jnoob22> running it now (dist-upgrade)
[23:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, could you pastebin the terminal out put ?
[23:05] <PasNox> Evening, I’m having issue crossbuilding Qt for windows via MinGW32 on ubuntu 16.04, this cause internal compiler error (cc1plus), this issue is reproducible with both Ubuntu 15.10 and 16.04 ? This kind of invocation make it crash: https://paste.kde.org/pfp0ldhex/wol88s - Any idea ?
[23:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !pastebin
[23:05] <bear_> SebthreeBQM10HD, I know I can't go back
[23:05] <jnoob22> SebthreeBQM10HD, too late now ;-)
[23:05] <bear_> well, I can and I can't.
[23:05] <bear_> It depends on the mechanism I use
[23:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, well there is a way to do the unsupported things I expect, but yes not a good idea
[23:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, ok so it's upgrading the new packages, or already done ?
[23:06] <bear_> SebthreeBQM10HD, snapshots
[23:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, just make suer it's all up to date and should be fine
[23:06] <elky> bear_: it does have a channel. it's #ubuntu-budgie. it doesn't have many people in it though, their dev team is on a gitter (no i don't know the details sorry)
[23:06] <bear_> What is gitter?!
[23:07] <bear_> ; - ;
[23:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, I meant otherwise, but sure,  if had btfs, which is also not default file system.  would possibly have snapshots
[23:07] <bear_> SebthreeBQM10HD, iirc XFS has it as well
[23:07] <bear_> I can also use ZFS
[23:08] <jnoob22> SebthreeBQM10HD, thanks (y)
[23:08] <bear_> Only a fool would use BTRFS in it's current state
[23:08] <bray90820> Does ubuntu sport the AWUS036NH wifi adapter?
[23:08] <kk4ewt> and lvm can do snapshoots
[23:08] <bear_> bray90820, what's the chipset?
[23:08] <bear_> kk4ewt, ye :)
[23:08] <bear_> I always do a encrypted LVM setup
[23:08] <kk4ewt> bray90820,  what chipsets does that have
[23:08] <bray90820> kk4ewt: No idea but the manufacture is alfa
[23:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, well that's all debatlabe how ready it is or not to be a default file system.  one mobile LInux based os at least has done it, and I think, one dekstop Linux disro so far,  but this is off topic now
[23:09] <BlueShark> Plugging in your laptop to power 24x7 is bad for the battery?
[23:09] <bear_> SebthreeBQM10HD, It's not debatable.
[23:09] <bear_> BTRFS's own developers declare it not production ready because it has a very bad habit of loosing data without warning
[23:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, ok everything upgraded now then ?
[23:10] <jnoob22> SebthreeBQM10HD, still going
[23:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok
[23:11] <armija> z
[23:11] <bear__> I'm back
[23:11] <bear__> my connection dropped after I said BTRFS isn't debatable stability wise
[23:12] <bear__> now I'm wondering, is there a nice tool to make snapshots of my disk in the event I need to roll back?
[23:13] <bear__> by nice tool I mean with a GUI.
[23:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_ no don't th8ink so or s such
[23:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_ its more a file system thing i think
[23:13] <Peppernrino> anybody know the IP of ppa.launchpad.net?
[23:13] <Peppernrino> for adding to hosts
[23:13] <bear__> SebthreeBQM10HD, remember if you don't know the answer never answer the question
[23:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_ roll back eh.  even if I had snap shots I don't think I would need to use usally at all really, especially with seperate /home
[23:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_ a  bit like with Virualbox the snapshot option is thre, but never had much of a reason to use that if at all really so far
[23:15] <bear__> SebthreeBQM10HD, I have reason to use it
[23:15] <bear__> I've trashed my setup a few times now
[23:17] <bear__> I don't think I've ever backed up / maintained a linux box I've worked on
[23:18] <bear__> I've also never used it as my daily driver due to shit hardware compatibility with my desktop
[23:26] <welcesr> Trying to get mp3 plugin for soundconverter but the appplication's site instrucitons dont work and the askubuntu solutution here dont work as it says that package is no longer available sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[23:26] <welcesr> Package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[23:26] <welcesr> from this link https://askubuntu.com/questions/740736/how-to-add-mp3-encoder-in-sound-converter-ubuntu-15-10-14-10-or-14-04
[23:26] <Dako300> welcesr: try apt-cache search gstreamer and see if there is a newer version available
[23:27] <Dako300> Also, you may need to enable some extra repositories (uncomment deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[23:27] <matsasc> welcesr: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:27] <welcesr> xubuntu 16.04
[23:28] <welcesr> can I pastebin you the output? I have no idea which would be the correct one as a few have similar strings
[23:28] <Dako300> sure, just post a link here
[23:28] <matsasc> try gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly it's in the repos
[23:28] <welcesr> Dako300: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23801218/
[23:29] <Dako300> welcesr: listen to matsasc
[23:29] <welcesr> giving that a shot thanks
[23:31] <welcesr> my apt update is stuck here 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]   is that bad?
[23:31] <welcesr> im a monkey typing things in without the smarts to know whay all the time
[23:32] <matsasc> just give it time, if it times out try and use another mirror
[23:32] <welcesr> ok thanks
[23:33] <welcesr> cool that plugin worked...how did you know which one in that output to use? There were several variations of plugiins
[23:33] <ice9> i have postfix and rsyslog, I'm getting "failed  to write to log file" in both syslog and mail.log, all mails are queued and not deliverd.
[23:34] <matsasc> welcesr: the name of the package is the same except the version number
[23:35] <matsasc> ice9: give the user that runs postfix permissions to write to the logfiles
[23:35] <welcesr> so is there a way to make sure apt pulls the most current automatically?
[23:36] <welcesr> of just doing the apt-cache search is the best way?
[23:36] <Dako300> Typically, there are packages that redirect to the latest version, not sure if that's a thing with gstreamer
[23:39] <inra> hello everyone, I was looking for the commands first to get a list of all installed packages in my current system, and then to install all of them at once on another system. online posts about this seem to offer different answers, so I'd like to make sure here which one works smooth
[23:40] <inra> and, if possible, packages that are installed by me only
[23:41] <bray90820> If I were to run this command "sudo ddrescue -D --force '/media/data/ubuntu-mate-16.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi.img' /dev/sdd" would it choose sdd1?
[23:44] <turista> how can I see the links in the repository?¿
[23:45] <metaresolve> I need help. I'm following the postgresql tutorial and it's telling me about a file called "advanced.sql" that's in a folder somewhere named "tutorial." I've been trying the find command to find the file but I don't know what directory it's in at all. Can someone help?
[23:46] <Dako300> find | grep advanced
[23:46] <tomreyn> inra: dpkg --get-selections > ~/Package.list; sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/Package.list; dselect
[23:47] <ikonia> metaresolve: by any chance is this so you cn create virtual users in postfix ?
[23:47] <tomreyn> ...the first command you run on the system which already has your desired softwar einstallted. the remaining two (separated by ';') you run on the system where you'll install your software on.
[23:49] <tomreyn> inra: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages for details. you might also want to store the debconf questions you had responded to when you installed those packages instially: debconf-get-selections >> file; debconf-set-selections << file
[23:49] <tomreyn> *initially
[23:53] <Hetachi> Hi guys, I have an issue with cronjob, I am not pro at linux ubuntu, so I really hope someone can help me out, I can't figure out how to make sure cronjobs are running
[23:54] <PasNox> According to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mingw-w64, there is a version 4.0.4-2 available for xenial, but i only have old 4.0.2-4, and i’m up to ate. how i cna get this update ?
[23:55] <beneter> Hetachi: What's your issue?+
[23:56] <Hetachi> beneter, the issue is, I have no idea wether the crontab is failing or it does not run the command at all
[23:57] <beneter> Hetachi: try it: * * * * * touch ~/test
[23:58] <beneter> and wait one minute
[23:58] <Hetachi> beneter, should I remove my own line ?
[23:58] <Hetachi> or commenting it out would do the trick too
[23:58] <metaresolve> ikonia, I don't understand?
[23:58] <beneter> Hetachi: Commenting should be enough
[23:59] <beneter> Hetachi: you know, you should always use "crontab -e" right?
[23:59] <ikonia> metaresolve: that file is not a standard postfix file
[23:59] <ikonia> metaresolve: so I'm assuming the tutorial is trying to do something like setup virtual users into a rdbms or something like that
[23:59] <metaresolve> no, i think it's just a bunch of tables
[23:59] <Hetachi> beneter, yes that is the only way I edit it


[13:31] <cincinnatus> Will it be possible to develop apps in Python for Ubuntu for Phones?
[14:31] <popey> cincinnatus: you probably want #ubuntu-phone


[16:44] <m4v> niko: ping
[17:27] <niko> yes
[17:27] <niko> m4v: pong - you lost
[17:27] <niko> s/t/e
[17:28] <m4v> sorry niko, i could get a hold of an op in u-es
[17:28] <m4v> sry for bugging you :)
[17:29] <niko> no problem :)
[17:47] <m4v> okay, now i have a problem
[17:47] <m4v> in u-es-ops we have a guy what i believe is a troll under cover
[17:50] <LjL> m4v: does the person not want to leave -es-ops?
[17:51] <m4v> LjL: not a while ago, RoAkSoAx  had to ban a troll called agentemorcilla
[17:51] <m4v> by change i was in #freenode, and I saw this
[17:52] <m4v> chance*
[17:52] <m4v> 13:25 <m4v> AgenteMorcilla<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #freenode
[17:52] <m4v> 13:25 <m4v> SN0WB4LL<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-es-ops
[17:52] <m4v> 13:25 <m4v> <AgenteMorcilla> how can I get generic cloak?
[17:52] <m4v> i believe they are the same person, so i want him to leave
[17:53] <m4v> what ever excuse he has
[17:54] <m4v> LjL: can we ask niko to use uBOTu-fr?
[17:55] <LjL> m4v: ... you need my permission to ask niko things, now?
[17:55] <m4v> niko: can you remove sn0wb4ll from u-es-ops?
[17:55] <LjL> m4v: i can do it myself.
[17:55] <m4v> LjL: hehe
[17:55] <LjL> but he left.
[17:55] <LjL> it's not needed.
[17:56] <m4v> LjL: sorry for the trouble, he was suspicious anyway
[17:56] <LjL> yup
[22:05] <Moniker> evening all, is there a Portuguese channel?
[22:08] <LjL> yes
[22:08] <LjL> #ubuntu-br is a support channel
[22:08] <LjL> (as well as the loco channel for brazil)
[22:08] <Nafallo> !pt
[22:08] <LjL> #ubuntu-pt is the loco channel for portugal
[22:08] <Nafallo> \o/
[22:17] <Moniker> thanks


[05:40] <pitti> Good morning
[14:27] <senan> balloons, Hi
[14:27] <senan> Good Eve
[14:29] <balloons> hello senan
[14:30] <senan> balloons, is there anything I can contribute ?.
[14:31] <balloons> senan, most certainly :-) Some test writing perhaps?
[14:31] <senan> balloons, sure.. always happy to help :)
[14:31] <senan> balloons, please find something for me :)
[14:33] <balloons> senan, bitesize bugs are always good: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize
[14:35] <elfy> hi balloons
[14:35] <senan> balloons, I would like to work on autopilot test cases
[14:35] <senan> balloons, previously I worked on that :)
[14:38] <balloons> senan, ohh, sure. In that case, let's have a gander. Have you tried working on tests for the phone apps?
[14:38] <balloons> morning to you elfy
[14:38] <balloons> will this week be as crazy as the last or does it get better?
[14:39] <senan> balloons, no.. after finishing diskusageanalyzer I didnt try anyting else
[14:42] <elfy> balloons: this week will be fine
[14:44] <balloons> senan, do you have a phone device?
[14:45] <balloons> senan, if not fire up the emulator - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
[14:48] <balloons> senan, this is the list of outstanding needs for autopilot tests: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=&field.tag=needs-autopilot-test
[14:51] <balloons> senan, let me know which bug you'd like to tackle. Something in reminders might be a good place to start
[14:52] <elfy> balloons: I left a query on 2 of those bugsize issues and marked them incomplete
[14:52] <balloons> ack
[14:53] <balloons> senan, so for the phone apps written in qml, you should find the test writing to be much more simplified
[15:02] <elfy> so can anyone boot a 64bit vbox and confirm that it ends up at a black screen
[15:02] <elfy> then go to tty1 and run sudo service lightdm status and get start/waiting
[15:02] <elfy> and then go to tty7 and see the login dialogue ok now
[15:05] <balloons> elfy, still/again?
[15:05] <elfy> this is different
[15:05] <balloons> I can zsync today and try
[15:05] <elfy> previous bugs were status=stop/waiting
[15:05] <elfy> balloons: thanks
[15:06] <elfy> really hope this is local :(
[15:07] <elfy> zsyncing mainbuntu to check that one
[15:07] <senan> balloons, Is there any open bug I can try ?
[15:08] <balloons> senan, I've had a chat with the developers, and they recommend the terminal
[15:08] <balloons> they are adding tabs to it and need some new tests to cover
[15:10] <senan> balloons , terminal in phone apps ?
[15:11] <balloons> senan, yes terminal for phone apps
[15:11] <balloons> senan, so let's get you started
[15:11] <senan> balloons, sure.. I'm ready
[15:12] <balloons> senan, bzr branch lp:ubuntu-terminal-app
[15:13] <balloons> the tests are located in tests/autopilot
[15:14] <senan> balloons, done
[15:14] <balloons> senan,  so cd tests/autopilot
[15:15] <balloons> the, autopilot3 list ubuntu_terminal_app
[15:16] <senan> balloons, got an error and at the end 1 total tests listed
[15:17] <elfy> balloons: not *quite* the same with mainbuntu - corruption and can hear the drums - so at least it's not lightdm :p
[15:17] <senan> balloons, AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'MainView'
[15:19] <balloons> elfy, interesting..
[15:20] <balloons> senan, can you paste the error? you might be missing a dependency. The dependencies are listed in the debian/control file and the mainfest file for click
[15:21]  * balloons starts zsync
[15:21] <senan> balloons, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8507992/
[15:23] <balloons> senan, ahh I see the depends you need
[15:23] <balloons> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot
[15:23] <balloons> they are a set of helpers; you'll see them being used in the tests. The docs are here: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-14.10/python/autopilot-emulator/ubuntuuitoolkit.html#module-ubuntuuitoolkit.emulators
[15:24] <senan> balloons, ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot is already the newest version.
[15:24] <balloons> senan, ohh? did you also install the ubuntu-sdk metapackage?
[15:26] <senan> balloons, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8508012/
[15:29] <balloons> senan, ohh.. are you on trusty?
[15:30] <senan> balloons, yea.. I forgot to mention that :(
[15:31] <balloons> senan, that's the issue. This requires utopic; the framework, etc, is all targetting it
[15:32] <senan> ok.. then I'll install it today.. and lets start this tomorrow
[15:32] <balloons> senan, so some people use a VM.
[15:33] <senan> balloons, laptop is only having 4 gigs ram
[15:33] <balloons> senan, ahh.. Well, this is another solution: http://nik90.com/fiddling-around-with-lxc-containers/
[15:33] <senan> it will be very slow I guess
[15:34] <balloons> virtualbox yes.. the lxc method should not be slow. You could also upgrade to utopic at this point, it's past final beta
[15:34] <balloons> but it's up to you :-)
[15:34]  * elfy is looking at that lxc stuff
[15:36] <balloons> senan, what are your thoughts on getting utopic?
[15:37] <senan> balloons, I think it will be better to install it in vm :)
[15:38] <knome> elfy, isn't that black magic? :P
[15:38] <elfy> knome: possibly :)
[15:38] <senan> balloons, or else I'll make some free space and install along with trusty
[15:42] <balloons> senan, I would recommend trying out lxc.. it will be much more lightweight that running something like virtualbox.. much much more lightweight
[15:42] <balloons> I assume you want to stay on trusty as it's an LTS yes?
[15:44] <senan> balloons, that is not an issue...I'm famous for installing and reinstalling os :)
[15:45] <balloons> senan, ahh.. then I would recommend just upgrading your install to utopic
[15:45] <knome> elfy, looks easy enought but not sure how much we (xubuntu) can benefit from that
[15:45] <knome> -t
[15:46] <senan> balloons, How to upgrade ?
[15:48] <balloons> senan, do-release-upgrade -d from the command line
[15:48] <senan> balloons, got it.. I'm starting the upgrade
[15:49]  * balloons high fives senan
[15:50] <senan> :)
[15:54] <senan> balloons, not sure if I can make it today.. internet is a bit slow here :(
[15:56] <balloons> senan, no worries at all. Once you upgrade everything should just work with the app
[15:56] <senan> balloons, ok..let me try
[15:56] <balloons> so autopilot3 list ubuntu_terminal_app should show 7 tests. Then autopilot3 run -v ubuntu_terminal_app should run them on the desktop
[15:57] <balloons> senan, feel free to ping with questions. Once you are up and running you can develop the tests write on the desktop and run them on the desktop as well easilyt
[15:59] <senan> okay :)
[16:16] <senan> balloons, got this while updating http://paste.ubuntu.com/8508328/
[19:18] <elopio> ping ubuntu-qa: I need a review here, please: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix1340227-expandable_autopilot_helper


[06:45] <gkcn> hello
[07:44] <gkcn> I'm using launchpadlib to search for some bugs and getting their attachments but I have problems
[07:45] <gkcn> I couldn't find how to get the filename of the bug_attachment instances
[07:46] <gkcn> attachment.data.open() is ok for getting the content but, I can't get filename and mimetype
[11:02] <tsimpson> gkcn: most of the time attachment.title will give you the name. as for the type, LP only detects patches and "anything that wasn't detected as a patch"
[11:02] <tsimpson> it's up to you to decide what to do with it
[11:02] <gkcn> tsimpson, ok I found it handle = attachment.data.open() ; handle.filenam
[11:03] <gkcn> tsimpson, and handle.content_type is the mimetype
[11:05] <tsimpson> gkcn: sure, but you have to open the attachment to get that (it's pretty much what you get from the HTTP headers)
[11:06] <gkcn> yes
[11:07] <gkcn> tsimpson, now my problem is about searching. In bugzilla it's possible to search bugs having attachments with application/pdf mime
[11:07] <gkcn> tsimpson, but in launchpadlib I couldn't find a way of searching bugs having some specific type of mimetypes
[11:08] <tsimpson> well LP only actually tries to detect if the attachment is some kind of patch or not, so that information isn't available from the API interface
[11:08] <gkcn> hmmm
[12:24] <skulltip> hi, how do i give someone upload rights to a project
[12:31] <skulltip> do i have to create a team first
[12:33] <skulltip> i seem to be an owner, shouldn't i be an administrator?
[12:35] <sagaci> skulltip: you could create a team and assign that as the maintainer of project, have moderated/restricted permissions on the project and then invite the uploaders to the parent team
[12:37] <sagaci> skulltip: https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning#What_team_membership_means
[12:38] <skulltip> thanks
[12:43] <skulltip> have to go to team membership to add? don't see any links on project page
[12:43] <skulltip> except my account
[12:44] <sagaci> around the middle of the screen there should be a green Add member link
[12:44] <sagaci> on your team homepage
[12:45] <skulltip> ok how do i associate my team with a project
[12:46] <sagaci> go to your project page and set the maintainer as the team you just created
[12:51] <skulltip> ty


[00:11] <olskolirc> can I dual boot with mythbuntu?
[00:12] <olskolirc> and can i get compiz-fusion on mythbuntu/
[00:12] <olskolirc> ?
[00:17] <tgm4883_laptop> olskolirc, it sounds like you really just want the mythtv stuff on a ubuntu machine
[00:22] <olskolirc> yeah tgm4883 but I don't know how to install it and it keeps going full screen and sending me back to the beginning without saving anything anyway
[00:22] <olskolirc> the run-around
[00:23] <zabbadapp> i'm trying to install a client, but after the normal install i end up on the live-cd desktop telling me to click "install" to install ... if i reboot at that point it won't boot
[00:23] <zabbadapp> mythbuntu 8.04 ...
[00:24] <zabbadapp> i go through the advanced route and select "client -- needs existing server on the network" and so on
[00:49] <zabbadapp> wtf, how should the live-cd frontend work? i select mysql host and password, test connection, "save & start", "start session" ... but nothing happen
[00:50] <Zaphod> I'm moving away from VistaMC - I've had it.  Trying to get mythbuntu up and running.  I've got 6 500GB drives NTFS format with ripped DVD content in individua labeled folders each with a folder.jpg for cover art.  I don't have room to transfer them once I get mythbuntu running.  Would I be better off hosting the drives on another server, then adding the cifs mounts to fstab or could I easily mount the drives in the system?
[00:51] <hads> You should be able to mount NTFS drives okay these days I believe.
[00:52] <Zaphod> Where should I mount the ripped content to show up okay?  I see mythdvd and mythtv?
[00:52] <hads> mythvideo will take care of playing them for you
[00:53] <hads> You can mount them anywhere you like really and either symlink them into the existing mythvideo dir or change the mythtv setup to point to your mount points.
[00:53] <Zaphod> symlink?  Sorry, nix noob
[00:53] <hads> In mythfrontend you can setup the mythvideo directory, to add multiple directories delimit them with colons a la /mnt/foo:/mnt/bar:/mnt/baz
[00:54] <Zaphod> ah, googled symlink too, thanks...
[00:54] <hads> np
[00:54] <Zaphod> will mythvideo handle the cover art, or do I need to move/modify it somehow?
[00:56] <Zaphod> re - mythfrontend multiple directories - will I need to set that on each frontend or will it translate through to other front ends once I set it up on the main server?
[00:56] <hads> It won't pick up on them automatically out of the folders by default. You'll either need to use some sort of IMDB script (included) to populate the database, or insert the picture locations into the databse by hand.
[00:56] <hads> mythvideo setup is individual to each frontend.
[00:57] <hads> You'll need to make sure the videos are mounted in the same place on each frontend
[00:57] <Zaphod> my wrists are aching thinking about the by hand update.
[00:57] <Zaphod> IMDB searches seem to cause more problems than they solve for me, but that's another matter.
[00:58] <hads> Well by hand and actually meant write a script to insert the locations.
[00:59] <Zaphod> I guess since it's not windows I can just /folder.jpg it...
[00:59] <hads> There's a script included with mythvideo called find_meta.py which will do bulk lookups from imdb
[00:59] <zabbadapp> myth can show folder-images in certain view modes: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2007-January/164496.html
[01:00] <hads> Good point, I never use gallery view myself.
[01:00] <zabbadapp> yes, unfortunately its only for the worst view ...
[01:00] <hads> Having the database populated with synopsis info etc. from IMDB is nice though.
[01:01] <Zaphod> yeah, but I always ended up with a lot of bad data - using similar db lookup tools in mediaportal
[01:02] <Zaphod> so I ended up just by hand creating folder.jpg's and sorting them that way.  Never much cared for the search by actor and such...
[01:02] <hads> *shrug* works well for me.
[01:02] <zabbadapp> my movies never live long enough to make it worth adding imdb metadata (for which the interface is not so good ... every video on disk in one long list, disregardning any directory structure) ...if it was possible to look up imdb directly from mythvideo for a certain movie, then i would actually use it
[01:03] <hads> zabbadapp: I never use the video manager, I do it from the command line. Also I believe your idea is being implemented in trunk at the moment.
[01:03] <hads> As part of the mythui rewrite
[01:03] <Zaphod> I always had dozens I had to go back in and fix by hand through the mediaportal interface - for instance imdb search "the never ending story" and tell me why I was having problems...
[01:04] <hads> *shrug* works well for me.
[01:04] <Zaphod> It would rename and list it as Unendliche Geschichte, Die - 1984
[01:04] <zabbadapp> nice!! fortunately the setting to mirror disk layout w.o. having to rescan the collection makes mythvideo quite usable for everyday use anyway ... good tip for anyone frustrated :-)
[01:05] <Zaphod> yes, all good input, thank you all for your time.
[01:07] <Zaphod> hmm..running a test here, just moved /akira into /var/lib/mythtv/videos - go to watch videos and get no files found - checked path under media - video - general settings.  Something I need to do to get it to recornize a folder containing ripped content?
[01:08] <Zaphod> (VIDEO_TS...)
[01:09] <zabbadapp> either you need to go to the mythvideo utility page and rescan you collection, or you can set mythvideo to immediately show what's on disk ... or you may have to add a file-extension
[01:11] <Zaphod> got it - success...
[01:11] <zabbadapp> even if you want to store metadata in the db, you can still have mythvideo to mirror disk content ... files without metadata will show up as is without rescanning then
[01:15] <zabbadapp> ... so, anyone successfully tried live-usbstick frontend with mythbuntu? i'm going mad soon
[01:16] <hads> Not I
[01:31] <dsbw> Greetings all: I'm trying to install 8.04 on a new mobo, but I can't get past initramfs. I've been advised to try turning of ACPI, but that seems to be for an already installed system. I need to install. The motherboard is thisi new one: http://www.uabit.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=48&page=1&model=419
[01:57] <zabbadapp> set sata to ide-mode? native sata won't work for my combo anyway.
[01:59] <dsbw> zabbadapp: Who is that directed at?
[02:00] <zabbadapp> you can have it if you want :)
[02:06] <zabbadapp> dsbw:  i don't know at what point ramfs happens, but another trick is to use the failsafe graphics mode for too new (nvidia) videocards that need the closed driver that isn't installed until reboot.
[02:08] <dsbw> zabbadapp: Really? Oh, cool, let me try that.
[02:10] <zabbadapp> it's somewhere on the very first bootscreen ... "F4 for other options" or something like that
[02:10] <dsbw> zabbadapp: Yeah. Damn it. I tried "safe graphics" mode and same thing, initramfs.
[02:12] <zabbadapp> change sata mode or acpi setting in BIOS ?
[02:14] <dsbw> zabbadapp: My ACPI settings are limited. I can change th suspend type from s1-s3. Everything else is disabled. SATA...
[02:15] <dsbw> ...is enabled  OnChip SATA controller
[02:15] <dsbw> er, enabld for OnChip SATA controller.
[02:16] <dsbw> ...disabling it causes DISK BOOT FAILURE
[02:17] <zabbadapp> dsbw:  have you installed anything else on it so you know it's ok? or tried the ram-tester?
[02:17] <dsbw> ...I disabled the floppy earlier because that was giving me a whole bunch of errors before sending me to initramfs
[02:19] <dsbw> zabbadapp: This is a box that I've used fora while, but replaced the mobo because I couldn't get the previous mobo to work to my satisfaction. (Specifically, the previous mobo had an ATI graphics chipset which was too slow with the standard drivers while the latest ATI drivers made hash out of MythTV's frontend.)
[02:22] <dsbw> zabbadapp: running the memory tester now and....so far so good.
[02:23] <dsbw> ...also, it actually did boot and work, though not well, after I switched the mobo. Which is fairly impressive when you think about it.
[03:06] <dsbw> Hey, does MemTest86 ever stop?
[03:13] <hads> It's typical to run it or 12-24 hours
[03:14] <hads> s/t or/t for/
[04:44] <cbrunner> hey
[04:45] <cbrunner> how do I add another directory to be available through nfs
[04:45] <cbrunner> besides the default ones
[04:45] <cbrunner> videos,music, games
[04:45] <cbrunner> or videos, music, pictures, recordings
[04:45] <cbrunner> I mean
[04:45] <cbrunner> or is it possible to make a sym linked directory work in nfs?
[08:14] <balz> I have a PVR150 in my myth box.  Is it possible to get a game console to work through the composite-in jacks in the back of the card?
[08:14] <balz> the idea would be to access the game console through the myth interface with a remmote
[08:30] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[08:30] <tgm4883_laptop> you left
[08:30] <tgm4883_laptop> but the answer is no
[09:13] <cann> anyone know if theres still tuning problems with WinTV-NOVA-S-Plus under 2.6.24-19 ? acording to the linuxtv wiki there was/is an issue under 2.6.22-14
[09:13] <cann> using latest v4l btw
[09:14] <cann> and no diseqc atm
[14:35] <hume> hello...anyone around? i have a newly installed mythbuntu box, with a few problems: watching movies, that is, locally stored mpg and avi-files, work well. but DVDs and live TV both stutters and jumps... DVDs are set to be played by internal. anone got ideas on what to check, change?
[15:16] <Arby> afternoon, I'm having trouble with jerky tv playback on my mythbuntu box following an upgrade from gutsy to hardy.
[15:16] <Arby> I have no idea what settings control this, where should I be looking for the source of the problem?
[15:47] <rhpot1991> arby mess around with the playback profiles
[15:47] <rhpot1991> try slim perhaps
[15:52] <Arby> rhpot1991: thanks for the pointer
[15:52] <Arby> rhpot1991: where those configured?
[15:52] <Arby> this thing has an insane number of settings
[15:55] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Playback_profiles
[15:55] <Arby> thanks
[15:55] <rhpot1991> setup > tv settings
[15:55] <rhpot1991> somewhere in there
[15:58] <feltis> any quick and painless (relativly) way to move from linux kernel 2.6.24 -> 2.6.27 without upgrading everything?
[16:13] <Arby> success :D
[16:14] <Arby> disabling OpenGL vertical sync for timing was the answer
[16:14] <Arby> thanks for the pointers
[16:42] <Tetsu> Hi
[16:43] <Tetsu> Anyone ever able to get a Conexant Falcon II working in Mythbuntu?
[16:50] <Tetsu> Anyone ever able to get a Conexant Falcon II working in Mythbuntu?
[17:02] <superm1> !weekend | Tetsu
[17:02] <Zinn> Tetsu: It's a weekend.  Often on weekends a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the week.
[17:02] <superm1> !ask | Tetsu
[17:02] <Zinn> Tetsu: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[17:03] <superm1> feltis, you can grab the kernel package from intrepid and install it on hardy, but expect a few things like proprietary drivers to not work
[17:06] <Tetsu> sorry this problem been driving me nuts all weekend
[17:07] <Tetsu> the last little hurtle in pretty much getting windows off my computer
[17:07] <Tetsu> hurdle*
[17:09] <Tetsu> its commin up  Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[17:09] <Tetsu> but i'm getting no device read at all
[17:15] <superm1> well that sounds like it might be supported by ivtv, but if it was, it would have come up on it's own
[17:15] <Tetsu> ya
[17:15] <Tetsu> I was reading around most of the weekend
[17:15] <Tetsu> Its out of a HP media center
[17:16] <Tetsu> i've heard people say its commin up with no problem in MEPIS but i have yet to find a solution
[17:19] <superm1> well folks who have it working in MEPIS, you need to ask them what driver it's using
[17:21] <tgm4883_laptop>  Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[17:21] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, ^^
[17:21] <superm1> what about it?
[17:21] <tgm4883_laptop> thats a PVR-500 comes up as
[17:22] <superm1> i thought it was quite similar to the pvr-xxx
[17:22] <superm1> but i wasnt positive
[17:22] <superm1> that's why i thought it might be supported by ivtv
[17:22] <tgm4883_laptop> Wouldn't that indicate that it uses the same driver?
[17:24] <superm1> well if it has a different pci-id, that id might need to be added to the ivtv driver
[17:24] <superm1> which could mean it's just a bug
[17:25] <superm1> the drivers match on pci-ids (lspci -nn)
[17:26] <tgm4883_laptop> 02:08.0 Multimedia video controller [0400]: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder [4444:0016] (rev 01)
[17:27] <tgm4883_laptop> although you really need Tetsu's, and I just realize he left
[18:37] <massabuntu> hi, please check  this post, i have problem to make work the change-channel script inside mythtv while outside, in the shell, the script is full working.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=924388
[18:39] <cbrunner> hey, how do I add a new NFS share besides the ones mythbuntu creates
[18:39] <cbrunner> I tried editing /etc/exports
[18:39] <cbrunner> ad restarting the nfs stuff
[18:40] <cbrunner> but it doesnt show up
[18:41] <massabuntu> output of exportfs?
[18:42] <cbrunner> how do i check that
[18:42] <massabuntu> exportfs in the shell =)
[18:42] <cbrunner> haha
[18:42] <cbrunner> it shows up there
[18:42] <cbrunner> the new one I made
[18:42] <massabuntu> so it show the new one?
[18:43] <cbrunner> yep
[18:43] <cbrunner> but when I connect to the nfs share
[18:43] <cbrunner> its not there
[18:43] <cbrunner> just the other ones
[18:43] <massabuntu> ok, try to restart portmap server too
[18:43] <cbrunner> /etc/init.d portmap restart?
[18:43] <massabuntu> yep
[18:46] <cbrunner> still not showing up
[18:46] <cbrunner> is there anything else you have to edit
[18:46] <cbrunner> because how does it determine the share name
[18:46] <cbrunner> I dont see if in /etc/exports
[18:46] <tgm4883_laptop> cbrunner, share name?
[18:47] <cbrunner> yea
[18:47] <cbrunner> like when I connect to the NFS from my mac
[18:47] <cbrunner> each one has a name, music, videos, recordings
[18:47] <cbrunner> is that just the directory name that it uses
[18:47] <cbrunner> or does it have to be set somewhere
[18:48] <tgm4883_laptop> could be, I wasn't aware you could just browse NFS shares
[18:48] <massabuntu> please post your /etc/exports
[18:49] <cbrunner> http://pastebin.com/m521e9cd8
[18:51] <tgm4883_laptop> are you sure you aren't browsing samba shares?
[18:52] <cbrunner> I think I am
[18:52] <cbrunner> browsing samba shares
[18:53] <cbrunner> whats do you edit for samba?
[18:54] <massabuntu> ehi
[18:54] <massabuntu> <IP_ADDRESS>/24(ro,async,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)
[18:55] <cbrunner> I think I am using samba shares I guess
[18:55] <cbrunner> not nfs
[18:55] <massabuntu> means tha you server share his directory with itslef
[18:55] <cbrunner> I just copied the other
[18:55] <massabuntu> i guess 'cause with that /etc/export u are not share anything
[18:55] <cbrunner> and put the new directories
[18:56] <tgm4883_laptop> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[18:56] <cbrunner> ahhh
[18:56] <cbrunner> there we go
[18:56] <cbrunner> thats what I was looking for
[18:58] <cbrunner> let me see if I reboot my mac it works cause its kinda in a weird state
[18:59] <tgm4883_laptop> like denmark?
[18:59] <massabuntu> now i have a question, anyone was be able to control his Sarellite Box with an IR BLASTER???
[18:59] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry, I use serial/usb cables
[19:02] <massabuntu> =(
[19:02] <massabuntu> it's strange because the script to change channel work in the shell, but don't work inside mythtv
[19:03] <tgm4883_laptop> massabuntu, can you post your backend logs?
[19:04] <massabuntu> How?
[19:04] <tgm4883_laptop> !pastebin | massabuntu
[19:04] <Zinn> massabuntu: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[19:05] <tgm4883_laptop> !logs | massabuntu
[19:05] <Zinn> massabuntu: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/
[19:05] <massabuntu> ok
[19:06] <massabuntu> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m1c167960
[19:07] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[19:07] <tgm4883_laptop> thats a rather short log.  Could you go into your frontend, try to change the channel (unsuccessfully) then repost you backend log
[19:08] <massabuntu> i cut the log
[19:08] <massabuntu> i post more
[19:08] <tgm4883_laptop> yea post the whole thing
[19:08] <tgm4883_laptop> or at least the last 50 lines
[19:09] <massabuntu> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m2167de2c
[19:09] <massabuntu> this is the good one sorry
[19:10] <massabuntu> i think the proble m is here 2008-09-21 20:04:15.167 Channel(/dev/video0) Error: GetCurrentChannelNum(101): Failed to find Channel
[19:10] <massabuntu> 2008-09-21 20:04:15.169 Channel(/dev/video0)::TuneTo(101): Error, failed to find channel.
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> I think theres your problem
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> #
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> 2008-09-21 20:04:15.167 Channel(/dev/video0) Error: GetCurrentChannelNum(101): Failed to find Channel
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> #
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> 2008-09-21 20:04:15.169 Channel(/dev/video0)::TuneTo(101): Error, failed to find channel.
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> #
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> 2008-09-21 20:04:15.170 TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to 108.
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> #
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> 2008-09-21 20:04:15.182 Finished recording Unknown: channel 6148
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> #
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> 2008-09-21 20:04:16.215 Finished recording Unknown: channel 6148
[19:10] <massabuntu> yes
[19:11] <massabuntu> but how i fix it?
[19:11] <tgm4883_laptop> how is your sat box connected to your mythtv box?
[19:12] <massabuntu> composite on Hauppauge 250
[19:12] <massabuntu> only composite imput is acitve
[19:12] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[19:12] <tgm4883_laptop> where do you get guide data from?
[19:12] <massabuntu> u saw this "Error: GetCurrentChannelNum(101)"
[19:12] <massabuntu> xmltv
[19:12] <massabuntu> maybe the problem is oin the file where the channel are setted
[19:13] <tgm4883_laptop> it would indicate that mythtv doesn't know about channel 108
[19:13] <tgm4883_laptop> i think
[19:14] <massabuntu> yes but where the channel number are setted?
[19:15] <tgm4883_laptop> this would be in either the db or your xmltv setting
[19:18] <massabuntu> now work!!!
[19:18] <massabuntu> i found the problem!.
[19:18] <massabuntu> i setted in the backend > imput connction>
[19:19] <massabuntu> preset for tuner
[19:19] <massabuntu> i setted it to 101 while i had to leave blank
[19:19] <tgm4883_laptop> so it works now?
[19:19] <massabuntu> what a stupid
[19:19] <massabuntu> =)
[19:19] <massabuntu> yes
[19:19] <tgm4883_laptop> good
[22:21] <tgm4883_laptop> mikal, ping
[23:03] <nexusphreez> hey
[23:04] <tgm4883_laptop> hi?
[23:04] <nexusphreez> I have an issue with sound.
[23:04] <tgm4883_laptop> mythbuntu was never meant to be used with sound
[23:04] <nexusphreez> I get no sound durring dvd playback or while watching tv on the tv tuner
[23:05] <nexusphreez> lol ,sounds fair
[23:05] <nexusphreez> no pun intended
[23:05] <tgm4883_laptop> do you get sound outside of mythtv?
[23:05] <nexusphreez> yea, I get sound playing video files like avi and mpg and the such.
[23:05] <nexusphreez> in and out of mythtv
[23:06] <tgm4883_laptop> frontend errors?
[23:06] <nexusphreez> nope
[23:06] <nexusphreez> none that i have seen anyway
[23:07] <nexusphreez> I should say, that i noticed it after letting mythbuntu run a bunch of updates a few month ago.  I just haven't done anything about it until now.
[23:08] <nexusphreez> I have no idea what updates it did at the time. There were 20 or 30 of them.
[23:09] <nexusphreez> hmmm..  I also installed a sound equalizer, alsa mixer, around that time as well.
[23:11] <nexusphreez> I had to install the sound mixer as the audio levels in mythbuntu were too low listen to anything.   And the sound setup in mythbuntu did not change anything.  Once I installed the mixer, I was able to increase audio levels for everything else.
[23:12] <nexusphreez> any ideas?  Could it just be a setting in the Alsa Mixer that is causing me to not have any sound in dvd playback and tv viewing?
[23:15] <tgm4883_laptop> nexusphreez, you are using all the internal players?
[23:15] <tgm4883_laptop> or are you using xine or vlc?
[23:17] <nexusphreez> How do i find out, because in the mythbuntu control centre i have MPlayer, Xine and VLC all selected.
[23:17] <nexusphreez> or would this be something in the mythbuntu frontend setup?
[23:18] <tgm4883_laptop> when you select a dvd to play, do you see a new window open?
[23:19] <nexusphreez> oh hold on let me try.
[23:22] <nexusphreez> sorry, the dvd player is set to Internal.
[23:23] <nexusphreez> and it does not open in a seprate window
[23:24] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[23:25] <nexusphreez> can i set it to use one of the other players?
[23:25] <tgm4883_laptop> yea you can set it to xine or vlc
[23:26] <tgm4883_laptop> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Xine
[23:27] <superm1> !vlc | nexusphreez
[23:27] <Zinn> nexusphreez: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/VLC
[23:27] <superm1> !xine nexusphreez
[23:27] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about xine nexusphreez
[23:27] <superm1> !xine | nexusphreez
[23:27] <Zinn> nexusphreez: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Xine
[23:28] <RobertLaptop> !help
[23:28] <Zinn> Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[23:30] <dsbw> Hey, everybody. Still trying to install Mythbuntu on my new mobo. I get tossed into initramfs.  Ive been running memtest86 for the past 21 hours. 30 passes with 0 errors. Any thoughts on how to proceed?
[23:37] <RobertLaptop> anyone here setup commandir under Mythbuntu 8.04?


[00:08] <callmepk> good morning
[05:40] <didrocks> good morning
[05:43] <Maik> a very good morning didrocks
[05:46] <didrocks> happy Monday Maik :)
[05:50] <Maik> thanks, likewise. ;)
[05:50] <Maik> one more night and then one night off from work (short weekend part 2)
[06:01] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:07] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN !
[06:32] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:36] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:55] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk didrocks Maik oSoMoN and seb128
[07:56] <callmepk> hey marcustomlinson didrocks Maik oSoMoN seb128
[08:01] <oSoMoN> good morning seb128, marcustomlinson, callmepk
[08:03] <Laney> yo
[08:04] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, callmepk, Laney! how was the weekend?
[08:05] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[08:07] <oSoMoN> yo Laney
[08:07] <oSoMoN> seb128, très bon week-end, mais cette nuit a été agitée
[08:08] <oSoMoN> et toi?
[08:08] <seb128> bon weekend et nuit calme pour changer :-)
[08:08] <seb128> oSoMoN, bon courage pour aujourd'hui alors :-/
[08:08] <callmepk> It's a okay weekend seb128 ... how was the weekend?
[08:09] <marcustomlinson> was ok until yesterday when the boiler failed :/ Someone only coming to see it today.
[08:10] <seb128> the weather was not great but we still managed to walk a bit outside and go to a park yesterday, otherwise we didn't do much but it was relaxing :-)
[08:10] <seb128> marcustomlinson, nothing like a cold shower to wake up!
[08:11] <marcustomlinson> haha, the air inside is freezing enough
[08:11] <Laney> peace seb128 oSoMoN callmepk marcustomlinson
[08:11] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:12] <Laney> I bet you there's a spike in boiler failures right now
[08:12] <Laney> sucks
[08:12] <Laney> our heating came on for the first time yesterday as well, I was furious
[08:13] <marcustomlinson> yeah was a coooold night
[08:14] <Laney> my inner dad wanted to turn it off for another month
[08:14] <marcustomlinson> XD
[08:15] <seb128> marcustomlinson, oh, of course you are using the boilet for the heating and not only water, I missed that detail :-/
[08:16] <Laney> my weekend was nice, a local brewery opened a 'tap room' at their place (tables outside, started raining, good times)
[08:16] <Laney> and then I went to the hackspace and played with some of the tools
[08:16] <Laney> want to make some shelves, how hard can it be
[08:17] <marcustomlinson> hard enough to hold a few books I’d say
[08:17] <Laney> dddddddddddddddddddad jokesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[08:18] <Laney> love it
[08:18] <oSoMoN> :)
[08:20] <Laney> big scary saws are scary though, can confirm
[14:36] <cpaelzer> Hi desktop people, I'm looking for your experience on qmake in debian packaging - I have a package that mosly is jut "dh $@" except dhauto_configure which calls qmake on a .pro file. My question is how to pass it something like CXXFLAGS to e.g. get it to build -O0
[14:37] <cpaelzer> I tried things like export DEB_CXXFLAGS_MAINT_APPEND := -O0 -g -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Wno-deprecated-copy and various others but nothing did affect it, so I thought I call out to people which have been built more qt5/qmake based packages in the past :-)
[14:43] <Laney> don't know personally, sorry cpaelzer, I'm not aware of any qmake projects we have, certainly haven't worked on that build system for ages
[14:43] <Laney> it's mostly meson / autotools in gnome
[14:43] <cpaelzer> yeah with those I'd know :-)
[14:43] <ginggs> cpaelzer: try https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=path%3Adebian%2Frules+QMAKE_CXXFLAGS&literal=0
[14:43] <cpaelzer> thanks for thinking about it Laney, maybe someone else picks up the question later and knows
[14:45] <cpaelzer> thanks ginggs, taking a look
[14:46] <oSoMoN> Mirv might know?
[14:48] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:48] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth
[14:48] <seb128> hey Heather, how are you?
[14:49] <hellsworth> hey guys. i'm ok. it was a rough weekend. nice to have some peace and quiet in front of my computer for a change :)
[14:49] <seb128> oSoMoN, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1897460 ... I didn't give much consideration to the topic, but do you know why thunderbird default to download in /tmp rather than $XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR? (which would probably workaround that issue since the vlc snap would have access to the downloaded file then right?)
[14:50] <seb128> oSoMoN, the issue is 'tb deb download attachment to /tmp and try to call the viewer on that, which doesn't work when you try to view a video with vlc installed as a snap'
[14:53] <oSoMoN> seb128, IIRC thunderbird (and firefox too) hardcode /tmp as the destination folder to write files to open
[14:53] <oSoMoN> there was a long thread about this in the snapcraft forum, let me dig it up
[14:54] <oSoMoN> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/sharing-files-via-tmp/1613
[14:54] <oSoMoN> there's also https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/opening-the-attachments-with-snap/9862
[14:55] <oSoMoN> and https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/cannot-open-pdf-attachment-with-thunderbird/11845
[14:57] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[15:01] <seb128> oSoMoN, but /tmp sharing is a difficult problem, it feels like we could easily workaround that case by changing /tmp to XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR
[15:04] <oSoMoN> seb128, I agree. Hopefully this can be achieved without patching the upstream code, and of course it needs to be thoroughly tested
[15:07] <Laney> I guess the idea is that the download directory is for stuff you want to download and keep, and in that sense tmp is right for just opening and throwing away things once you're done. e.g. I back my downloads up (costing my bandwidth quota), but not /tmp of course
[15:08] <seb128> hum, right
[15:11] <Laney> maybe if things clear up quickly enough then it might not be so bad
[16:05] <cpaelzer> ginggs: echo "QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -O0 -g -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Wno-deprecated-copy" >> .qmake.conf did it, thanks for the hint
[16:05] <ginggs> cpaelzer: yw!
[17:03] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, have you seen https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2020-September/041198.html ?
[17:04] <hellsworth> no i haven't but reading now
[17:07] <hellsworth> thanks so much oSoMoN ! i'm now subscribed to this list..
[17:09] <Laney> Quality List
[17:25] <oSoMoN> I'm calling it a day, have a good evening everyone!