[21:08] <fluttershyfan> kk
[21:09] <latagore> rww: I see
[21:09] <TrentonDAdams> Anybody using a ASUS P67 or H67 board?
[21:10] <sudokill> no
[21:10] <ikonia> TrentonDAdams: why ?
[21:10] <jerry14> does the new Ubuntu 11.04 have Gnome? what is classic mode?
[21:10] <sudokill> gnome 2 afaik
[21:10] <sudokill> without unity
[21:10] <lookin4> ok guys m leaving.. feeling sleepy
[21:10] <ikonia> jerry14: I suggest you check out ubuntu.com and just get a basic idea of what you actually will get
[21:10] <lookin4> wish sum1 cud have helped
[21:11] <jerry14> ok
[21:11] <tripelb> chrome freezes up. often. few tabs open (5) no youtube, killed flash but it wasnt up. top tells me it's chrome. "stuck"
[21:11] <lookin4> nvm..gud nyt.. shabba khair..
[21:11] <lookin4> khuda hafiz
[21:12] <DJSkidd`> Hi
[21:12] <sudokill> hi
[21:12] <Webonaute> hi. is there a way to list all file from a folder and subfolder in one list. not like ls -alR
[21:13] <DJSkidd`> Anyone know how to get Ubuntu to recognize a JAR as an executable, not an archive?
[21:13] <Webonaute> I dont care about folder. only file
[21:13] <ikonia> DJSkidd`: a jar isn't an executable
[21:13] <DJSkidd`> minecraft.jar is
[21:13] <ikonia> DJSkidd`: it's a java archive, you don't execute it
[21:13] <ikonia> DJSkidd`: I don't believe it is
[21:13] <DJSkidd`> so how do I play Minecraft?
[21:14] <sudokill> Webonaute, you could add grep to the end of that maybe
[21:14] <sudokill> if you know what its called
[21:14] <DJSkidd`> do I have to extract the JAR somewhere?
[21:14] <luigi_p|away> DJSkidd`: java -jar minecraft.jar
[21:14] <ikonia> DJSkidd`: you launch it from a jvm - as the document on mincraft.com says
[21:14] <ikonia> minecraft.net sorry
[21:14] <ikonia> DJSkidd`: it even gives you the exact command to use
[21:15] <tiago> how can i download a paper by ssh?
[21:15] <ikonia> download a paper ?
[21:15] <sudokill> newspaper?
[21:15] <ikonia> what ? come on, ask a question properly
[21:16] <tiago> a scientific paper
[21:16] <TrentonDAdams> ikonia: because I'd like to buy a new computer, and want to ensure it works with linux
[21:16] <ikonia> TrentonDAdams: from where
[21:16] <tiago> i have the url
[21:16] <TrentonDAdams> ikonia: From where what?
[21:16] <sudokill> TrentonDAdams, yes it will work
[21:16] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: you have one?
[21:16] <jpds> TrentonDAdams: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[21:16] <ikonia> TrentonDAdams: ok - so you need to look at the chipsets on it, and look at what kernel versions support it, and then look if your distro uses that kernel
[21:16] <peterhil> Webonaute: On OS X this seems to work: ls -lFR
[21:16] <latagore> How can I backup my partition? I want to reinstall Kubuntu because of all the crap I did to it
[21:16] <sudokill> TrentonDAdams, no, but 99% of pcs work
[21:17] <DJSkidd`> terminal says Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from minecraft.jar
[21:17] <ikonia> tiago: you don't use ssh to get a url
[21:17] <sudokill> i know the 67 works
[21:17] <latagore> sudokill: But you're still bound to run into hardware support problem
[21:17] <zamba> BluesKaj: what does that answer?
[21:17] <zamba> BluesKaj: i know what ssh is
[21:17] <ikonia> DJSkidd`: are you using the sun jvm ?
[21:17] <tiago> ikonia: of course not, i was talking about commands such wget
[21:17] <tiago> if that would do
[21:17] <peterhil> Webonaute: Can't test on Ubuntu now, because my screen went amok wioth vertical stripes
[21:17] <DJSkidd`> No idea...
[21:17] <tiago> given that i have access by ssh to a server
[21:17] <DJSkidd`> should I get it from the site?
[21:17] <ikonia> tiago: wget works fine
[21:17] <DJSkidd`> The java site?
[21:18] <TrentonDAdams> ikonia: Yeah, that's essentially what I'm doing.  However, there are inconsistencies sometimes between MB manufacturers, even when they do use Intel chipsets, which are almost always supported on Linux.
[21:18] <DJSkidd`> I got it from terminal
[21:18] <latagore> tiago: You could try scp
[21:18] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: 99% of PCs will "run", that doesn't mean they "really" work.
[21:18] <ikonia> DJSkidd`: http://www.minecraft.net/community.jsp
[21:18] <DJSkidd`> Gotcha.
[21:18] <jpds> TrentonDAdams: Look at the certification pages.
[21:18] <DJSkidd`> Will go there now.
[21:18] <sudokill> TrentonDAdams, most work
[21:18] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: e.g. it's annoying when your gnome terminal window takes forever to scroll because the video card isn't supported.
[21:19] <sudokill> lots of people use the 67 on linux
[21:19] <jpds> TrentonDAdams: Those machines have been tried and tested by the cert team.
[21:19] <DJSkidd`> Man, I love the Unity workspace.
[21:19] <sudokill> TrentonDAdams, all video cards should be supported unless theyre really unknown
[21:19] <TrentonDAdams> jpds: Yeah, I took a look, but those are all canned systems.  I want to build my own.
[21:20] <sudokill> TrentonDAdams, what gpu are you going to use
[21:20] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: Nope, the ASUS H67 was having problems a couple months ago with the integrated video.
[21:20] <latagore> TrentonDAdams: You could look at the parts they use to build them
[21:20] <tofaffy_> Hello, while trying to start/stop/restart ssh via "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart|start|stop" I get an error saying that rather than invoking the script, I should use the service utility. I have no desire to do this, and want to be able to start ssh how I am used to. How can this be fixed.
[21:20] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: Probably nVidia, because they "actually" support linux.
[21:20] <PythonSnake> http://pastebin.com/4brRAVNq help?
[21:20] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: well, so does ATI I suppose
[21:20] <sudokill> yea
[21:20] <TrentonDAdams> latagore: That's probably a good idea.
[21:20] <sudokill> well if youre going to use nvidia, you know it will work :s
[21:21] <sudokill> not sure about the h67 problem
[21:21] <DJSkidd`> AARGH
[21:21] <DJSkidd`> Maybe I should try Chromium
[21:21] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: EXACTLY! :D  I just want to know about the rest of the components.  USB3, SATA (usually works), fan control, cpu temp monitoring, etc.
[21:21] <sudokill> maybe theres been a kernel update since or some other fix
[21:21] <sudokill> ubuntu should enable all thos for you
[21:22] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: Yeah, no reports of any fixes to that.  Intel themselves obtained an ASUS board, and couldn't figure it out.  But, I haven't heard any reports since then.
[21:22] <sudokill> go for p67 then
[21:22] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: They did reproduce the problems though.
[21:22] <sudokill> to be safe
[21:22] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
[21:22] <sudokill> afaik theyre pretty much the same thing
[21:22] <sudokill> p55 /h55 was anyway
[21:22] <canu-qumm> hey guys
[21:22] <canu-qumm> do any of you have experience on DWM?
[21:23] <blue112> Hi here.
[21:23] <TrentonDAdams> sudokill: Yeah, it's my understanding they are identical, except the integrated video component option.
[21:23] <sudokill> i have a p55 asus so no exp with the 6 series
[21:23] <blue112> I can't play any sound (mp3, video) for more than a few second (3-4), then, the sound cut off, even if the player look likes it play normally.
[21:23] <canu-qumm> while logging out to change sessions from Ubuntu to DWM, DWM does not work, I installed the following packages via prompt: dwm suckless tools.
[21:24] <canu-qumm> Any idea of why it isn't working?
[21:24] <winvince> hello tout le monde :)
[21:24] <canu-qumm> Oh boy.
[21:24] <canu-qumm> You guys sure help a lot.
[21:24] <sudokill> damn
[21:25] <sudokill> impatient lol
[21:25] <genii-around> canu-qumm: It's been less than 2 minutes, give it time
[21:25] <sudokill> but yea, no idea
[21:25] <engammalsko> Hi, I can't boot Ubuntu 11 from my SSD, only from my HDD. I don't even have a grub menu, just a grub rescu prompt. Please help me.
[21:25] <Corey> canu-qumm: Define "doesn't work."  What do the logs say?  What is the expected behavior?  What do you see happening instead?
[21:25] <sudokill> engammalsko, did it used to work?
[21:25] <Corey> !pm | canu-qumm
[21:26] <latagore> Are there any special precautions I should take when backing up my Ubuntu partition with dd? Will dd if=/dev/sda2 of=~/ubuntu.img suffice?
[21:26] <engammalsko> sudokill: I built my computer today so, no. But Windows 7 booted from the SSD.
[21:26] <Corey> latagore: Urm... I do hope your ubuntu partition isn't on /dev/sda2. :-)
[21:26] <latagore> engammalsko: Did you change hard drives?
[21:26] <blue112> Any help ?
[21:26] <latagore> Corey: Why do you say that?
[21:27] <unkonwn> hi every one ^^
[21:27] <canu-qumm> Corey: After I've selected DWM from the session selection, the session stays with the same wallpaper of the login manager, and it stays blank.
[21:27] <latagore> Corey: Oops, I see what you mean
[21:27] <djskidd> Linux, you're not supposed to crash! Leave that to Windows.
[21:27] <mrdeb> can someone help me remove teh jupiter
[21:27] <TrentonDAdams> latagore: Precautions, just don't do it. :D  Use rsync.
[21:27] <TrentonDAdams> latagore: :D
[21:28] <canu-qumm> !help
[21:28] <djskidd> !help
[21:28] <engammalsko> latagore: What do you mean? I didn't just install the harddrives but all the components. Or did you mean if I've tried to switch places?  Sorry
[21:31] <canu-qumm> latagore: it' s ok
[21:31] <sudokill> canu-qumm, calm down a bit you havent been here long lol
[21:31] <Corey> canu-qumm: Again, what do the logs say?
[21:31] <engammalsko> latagore: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[21:31] <huros> your mother havent been here long
[21:32] <Corey> huros: Not helpful.
[21:32] <canu-qumm> Corey: no logs lol
[21:32] <extraclassic> canu-qumm: you're better off reading a tutorial on dwm...for one thing you installed it from a repo and you should compile it
[21:32] <Corey> !dvm
[21:32] <Corey> extraclassic: Pretty sure that "compile it yourself" isn't the Ubuntu way. :-)
[21:32] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: wait I was supposed to compile?
[21:33] <sudokill> no
[21:33] <huros> i love sauerkraut
[21:33] <extraclassic> Corey: dwm has to be recompiled every time you change it's configuration
[21:33] <engammalsko> latagore: Where should I have the root thingy? I choosed "/" Maybe I should choose "/boot" or "/home" etc?
[21:33] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: all I did was "sudo apt-get install dwm" hoping it would.. erm..
[21:33] <shorttech> anyone good with VPN?
[21:33] <Corey> extraclassic: Citation needed?
[21:33] <Corey> shorttech: Ask your real question.
[21:33] <sudokill> canu-qumm, if you installed it from repo its better that way
[21:33] <latagore> engammalsko: I can't remember how to do it, you could try installing grub againg
[21:33] <KERNEL44> use APT on CD
[21:33] <huros> and bratwurst
[21:33] <Corey> !ot | huros
[21:34] <engammalsko> latagore: how? sudo apt-get ? But how do I know if it will install on the ssd and not on the hdd?
[21:34] <latagore> engammalsko: Just a moment
[21:34] <sudokill> engammalsko, root is / not/home
[21:34] <canu-qumm> Corey: nothing actually appears, I choose DWM from the session selection and after logging in, the wallpaper stays the same and it doesn't even log in.
[21:35] <huros> wer anderen eine bratwurst brät hat ein bratwurst bratgerät
[21:35] <RA_drc> !tor
[21:35] <latagore> engammalsko: Which one has Ubuntu on it?
[21:35] <Corey> canu-qumm: And the logs show nothing at all?  I find that questionable.
[21:35] <TrD> i'm looking for an application level firewall for Ubuntu any idea ??
[21:35] <engammalsko> sudokill: I had alot of options, like opt etc. But I choosed /
[21:35] <canu-qumm> Corey: that depends, what are you talking about?
[21:35] <latagore> sudokill: How do you list out the disks on your system again?
[21:35] <Corey> huros: Stop, please.
[21:35] <sudokill> latagore, fdisk -l
[21:35] <KERNEL44> you talking like a red Hat administrator huros lol
[21:35] <engammalsko> latagore: Both.
[21:36] <extraclassic> Note that by omitting compiling dwm from source a great deal of customizability is lost, since dwm's entire configuration is performed by editing its source code.
[21:36] <Corey> !logs | canu-qumm
[21:36] <canu-qumm> Corey: what logs? I've never seen any logs in my session.
[21:36] <Corey> Er...
[21:36] <extraclassic> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dwm#Method_1:_ABS_rebuild_.28recommended.29
[21:36] <Corey> That's ridiculous as far as factoids go.
[21:36] <shorttech> Corey, I need help setting up my VPN through the network manager settings. I would like to import my cisco pcf. file but there is no import button inside network manager settings
[21:36] <KERNEL44> Danke
[21:36] <canu-qumm> !logs
[21:36] <Corey> canu-qumm: /var/log contains a bunch of logs. Try reading them. :-)
[21:36] <shorttech> Corey, in the past I have used Kvpnc which has an import button.
[21:36] <RA_drc> !tor-sasl
[21:36] <canu-qumm> Corey: is the session log there?
[21:36] <sudokill> extraclassic, ive never used dwm but im guessing its a plain config text file?
[21:37] <Corey> canu-qumm: It's your system that's afflicted, you tell me. :-)
[21:37] <huros> kernel44: ein sehr interessanter vergleich
[21:37] <TrD> ubottu: if there are an application level firewall for Ubuntu please ?
[21:37] <huros> :-D
[21:37] <engammalsko> brb
[21:37] <latagore> sudokill: That didn't give me anything; I'm looking for the names hard disks on engammalsko's computer
[21:37] <extraclassic> sudokill: not sure...I used it for like 30 minutes
[21:37] <KERNEL44> here the english is essential
[21:37] <canu-qumm> Corey: well I got no idea and I'm looking for help. I don't know where to look at for these "logs".
[21:38] <KERNEL44> i'm french so...
[21:38] <engammalsko> latagore: What? The ssd is sdb if that helped you.
[21:38] <Corey> canu-qumm: Again, these logs live in /var/log/, most likely X*.log
[21:38] <latagore> engammalsko: and which do you want it working on?
[21:38] <extraclassic> canu-qumm: you want a tiling wm, so I'd try awesome
[21:39] <latagore> engammalsko: Ubuntu I mean
[21:39] <engammalsko> latagore: Ehrm? sdb?
[21:39] <shorttech> Corey, do you think you can help?
[21:39] <KERNEL44> someone know the new game with DSK and Berlusconi BUNGA BUNGA ?
[21:39] <latagore> engammalsko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows This should solve your problem if you want grub as your bootloader
[21:39] <engammalsko> latagore: I want it to work on the ssd, and the ssd is on sdb... So yeah, I want ubuntu to work on the sdb/ssd? Do you understand?
[21:39] <Corey> shorttech: I do my Cisco VPN config manually, and I'm convinced NetworkManager is a plague.  So probably not. :-)
[21:39] <arr3> I'm learning python right now, and I've been using gedit. Every time I want to run my script, I have to either call the interpreter manually or edit the executable flags. Is it possible to get gedit to automatiaclly set the executable flag when I save a file?
[21:39] <sudokill> canu-qumm, how come you want dwm as well as unity?
[21:39] <latagore> engammalsko: Yeah, sorry about that
[21:40] <Corey> !ot | KERNEL44
[21:40] <DriversBroken> hey latagore
[21:40] <canu-qumm> Corey: the only things with X in /log/ is Xorg.log from 1 to 6 or something..
[21:40] <DriversBroken> I've found more resources
[21:40] <sudokill> canu-qumm, xorg0.log
[21:40] <DriversBroken> latagore:  see this http://www.mydigitallife.info/download-windows-7-iso-official-32-bit-and-64-bit-direct-download-links/
[21:40] <extraclassic> sudokill: he saw a screenshot where someone made dwm look good so it convinced him to use it
[21:40] <engammalsko> latagore: This is what I get on bootup from ssd (not from hdd) http://www.linuxpedia.fr/lib/exe/fetch.php/expert/grub2/grub_rescue1.png?w=580
[21:40] <KERNEL44> Ok!
[21:40] <canu-qumm> sudokill: unity? lol I use classic not Unity.
[21:40] <canu-qumm> sudokill: And I want DWM.
[21:40] <latagore> DriversBroken: Hey, I decided I'm just gonna reinstall windows; I really screwed up my partition this time lol
[21:40] <sudokill> ok
[21:41] <KERNEL44> No I've got a problem with my labtec Webcam1200 support
[21:41] <DriversBroken> latagore:  Well if you need a clean reinstallation disk, you can get it off there
[21:41] <sunny007> ZykoticK9, I'm not using SSH. I'm trying to install from a USB stick.
[21:41] <latagore> DriversBroken: I have the installation disk installed on my hard drive XD
[21:41] <latagore> engammalsko: I know, that's what I thought
[21:42] <DriversBroken> latagore:  okie doke, just remember that if it's something that hp or dell gave you its likely to have lots of crapware
[21:42] <shorttech> anyone else can help with VPN?
[21:42] <engammalsko> latagore: So, do you have any solution?
[21:42] <latagore> DriversBroken: It was a clean install I made
[21:42] <latagore> engammalsko: I gave you a link
[21:42] <extraclassic> canu-qumm: i'd try experimenting in virtualbox with it
[21:42] <KERNEL44> I'm not sure this matérial recognize
[21:42] <canu-qumm> sudokill: okay so Xorg.0.log won't open
[21:42] <shorttech> Corey, the problem with a manual setup for me is that my group password is encrypted
[21:42] <canu-qumm> extraclassic: it's a GUI not an OS
[21:43] <sudokill> canu-qumm, what does it say? permission denied?
[21:43] <engammalsko> latagore: resend.
[21:43] <luc_> ll the command to find out if my computer ecooginized my pci vidoe capture card
[21:43] <canu-qumm> sudokill: Yep.
[21:43] <latagore> engammalsko:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:43] <shorttech> Corey, do you know of a way to show the encrypted password?
[21:43] <canu-qumm> sudokill: No no it wasn't that.
[21:43] <Corey> shorttech: Ask the network admin.
[21:43] <canu-qumm> sudokill: It says Geditor had problems reading the character encodings.
[21:43] <engammalsko> latagore: Wtf has windows with anything to do?   If you don't like them, work elsewhere.
[21:45] <canu-qumm> sudokill: done, im on Guake Terminal
[21:45] <canu-qumm> so my prompt is actually next to Irssi
[21:45] <canu-qumm> sudokill: I did it, now what?
[21:45] <sudokill> now you should be able to see the log
[21:46] <sudokill> not sure if ubuntu has a built in wgetpaste type thing or not
[21:46] <canu-qumm> [    41.649] (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "SEC", prod id 13144
[21:46] <canu-qumm> [    41.649] (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
[21:46] <canu-qumm> [    41.649] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x800"x0.0   71.26  1280 1296 1344 1424  800 801 804 834 -hsync -vsync (50.0 kHz)
[21:46] <canu-qumm> that is what it says
[21:46] <sudokill> just those 3 lines?
[21:46] <canu-qumm> Nope, it's the same thing just with different numbers on the left part
[21:46] <shorttech> Corey, if were in front of me I tell you to F off.   They get to decide what their respective policies are.  If they won't give you the password, you may be somewhat hosed.
[21:47] <sudokill> canu-qumm, if you're new to linux then i wouldnt bother
[21:47] <canu-qumm> sudokill: No man I've been with Linux for like 8 months now
[21:47] <shorttech> Corey, its my computer actually.
[21:48] <Corey> shorttech: But it's their VPN concentrator. :-)
[21:48] <canu-qumm> sudokill: So how do I configure DWM?
[21:48] <sudokill> canu-qumm, did you do any research on dwm before you installed it? like how to set it up?
[21:48] <sudokill> canu-qumm, i have no idea what to do for dwm i dont use it
[21:48] <jimmie> Hey guys, does anyone know how I can make windows maximise actually into the launcher?
[21:48] <sudokill> canu-qumm, things like windows manager you cant just install them and expect them to work with no knowledge at all
[21:48] <canu-qumm> sudokill: nope, because I was supposing they would give me a default design of DWM and let me do the other stuff.
[21:48] <TheFuzzball> jimmie You mean minimise?
[21:48] <bluezone> transmission doesn't seem to allow the torrents to start downloading/uploading, any ideas?
[21:49] <sudokill> canu-qumm, for all i know the default could be a blank screen... openbox default is
[21:49] <scialex> bluezone, you sure you got a connection to trackers
[21:49] <TheFuzzball> jimmie, System Settings > Dock > Minimise windows into application icon
[21:49] <extraclassic> i think all you can see are numbers up top for the workspaces for dwm defalt
[21:49] <extraclassic> default
[21:49] <bluezone> scialex, probably, but how do i check that
[21:50] <bluezone> scialex, ahhh it jsut started
[21:50] <canu-qumm> sudokill: I'm looking at a guide...
[21:50] <sudokill> canu-qumm, id do some googling on it
[21:50] <extraclassic> wallpaper you probably need nitrogen or feh
[21:50] <sudokill> yea good idea
[21:50] <bluezone> scialex, every time i ask a question it solves itself lol
[21:50] <scialex> cool
[21:50] <nicofs> I am signed in tu Ubuntu One with the wrong account - how can I change the account I am using?
[21:51] <sudokill> canu-qumm, as extra said, to do simple things like change your wallapaper youd need a program like feh and have a command load at stratup
[21:51] <scialex> bluezone, to answer your question though you can click on properties and go to the trackers tab. it will show you if there are problems connecting to the trackers.
[21:51] <bluezone> scialex, found it thanks
[21:51] <canu-qumm> sudokill: best advice?
[21:51] <sudokill> canu-qumm, archlinux has some good guides should guve you enough info
[21:52] <sudokill> but not all of it can be applied to ubuntu of course
[21:52] <sudokill> canu-qumm, my best advice would be to keep reading until you know roughly what you're doing
[21:55] <canu-qumm> sudokill: got it all done now
[21:55] <sudokill> ok cool
[21:55] <nicofs> Please, can someone help me with that ubuntu one thing?
[21:55] <uRock> I get the feeling I just jacked up grub. Windows was on /dev/sda1, which I just deleted to make an NTFS storage partition. / is on sda/7 I ran update-grub and all seems well, but I get the feeling that with WIndows gone I will not have a bootable system
[21:55] <canu-qumm> sudokill: All I need to know is how to make it work correctly.
[21:56] <BrianH> Has anyone made a purchase through the software center?
[21:56] <BrianH> I just got screwed, and I don't know where to file a complaint about it.
[21:57] <sudokill> what they took too much money?
[21:58]  * uRock wonders -- "Should I be installing grub before trying to restart my system?"
[21:58] <peterhil> Is there some way to 1) select virtual consoles 2) Kill X 3) Switch X modes by default on Ubuntu. I have problems with video driver apparently. It very frequently gives vertical stripes on the display
[21:58] <BrianH> No, they billed me the right amount.  I paid for Illumination Software Creator, but I didn't realize it was an outdated version and that the software center is going to screw me by only providing me with an Ubuntu license.
[21:58] <peterhil> Now I didn't even get the chance to set avahi config and dyndns for that machine so I could log in with SSH
[21:59] <peterhil> before the stripes kicked in
[21:59] <BrianH> Version 3.2 was released 28 days ago, why isn't the version in the USC up to date?
[21:59] <froq> jimmie, i don't understand your Q, wanna repeat it?
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> !latest | BrianH
[21:59]  * uRock wonders -- "Should I be installing grub before trying to restart my system?"
[22:00] <peterhil> The video card fan on the other hand makes kind of funny noise - maybe the fan is going to break
[22:00] <canu-qumm> sudokill: any idea of where the dwm package is?
[22:00] <sudokill> uRock, not if ubuntu grub booted windows for you
[22:00] <FluttershyFan> if my computer only has 1.5gb of ram, how much swap space do I need for ubuntu 11?
[22:00] <canu-qumm> sudokill: im going to download the man file now and I'm going to learn how to customize it to my likings.
[22:00] <sudokill> ok, i thought you already had dwm installed?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> BrianH: not sure about paid apps personally, hmm. Is there anything in software centre?
[22:00] <robin0800_> nicofs: think if you remove your machine under devices and reboot and then sign in again
[22:00] <almoxarife> I have an odd problem, I like using Miro, Miro does a really good job of keeping a video library current if you use it, I also like using ps3server, it allows me to watch that video from miro on the big screen, my issue comes down to somehow having miro accept that the show being watched thru ps3server is equal to being seen thru miro ( then it would update, remove the stale and d/l new stuff) , so, how does one in terminal fake out
[22:01] <canu-qumm> sudokill: turns out its recommended to have the man file.
[22:01] <canu-qumm> sudokill: because it contains the config.h file which is used to customize the dwm.
[22:01] <sudokill> the man file probbaly ownt help much
[22:01] <uRock> Thanks sudokill I was worried that I needed the boot sector from WIndows in tact. thanks again
[22:01] <canu-qumm> sudokill: then what shall I do?
[22:01] <sudokill> uRock, nah, if grub was what booted both OS's then dont worry about the deleted windows it'll still boot
[22:01] <BrianH> So I have to get shafted by the Software Center until they think it's a stable version to release?  I could have otherwise purchased the same software directly from the developers and received ALL versions (Ubuntu, Mac, Linux) with access to the most recent versions.
[22:01] <peterhil> Anyway, it was a stupid decision to disable those by default...
[22:01] <Eitan> and here comes ubuntu on my macbook pro
[22:01] <Eitan> lets see what happens
[22:02] <sudokill> canu-qumm, i have no idea ive never used dwm
[22:02] <sudokill> how come you want dwm over the already installed gnome anyway?
[22:02] <canu-qumm> sudokill: Those are preferences, and because I'd like to try a different GUI.
[22:03] <canu-qumm> sudokill: I've been through Gnome and KDE4 already, XFCE is still one I haven't tried though, but I wanna see how DWM turns out.
[22:03] <BrianH> ActionParsnip, Not sure what you're asking.  I made the purchase from the Ubuntu Software Center.  Thats what my problem is.
[22:04] <almoxarife> canu-qumm: why can't you install dwm like you did the others?
[22:04] <sudokill> BrianH, hes saying the versions arent always the latest, because ubuntu chooses stability over cutting edge
[22:04] <canu-qumm> almoxarife: I did it, it didn't turn out how I expected.
[22:05] <canu-qumm> almoxarife: After logging in, it was all a blank screen with my login manager wallpaper on it.
[22:05] <canu-qumm> almoxarife: and yes I had changed my session to DWM
[22:05] <odam> does ubuntu work for laptops?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> canu-qumm: Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it’s pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions     Nice words huh
[22:05] <sudokill> odam, yes
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> odam: yes
[22:06] <BrianH> sudokill, I can understand why they wouldn't host the "latest" version if that were the case, but I don't even have access to use the latest version because the Ubuntu Software Center doesn't even give me a real license.
[22:06] <odam> is 11.04 a good system?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> odam: that's anopinion, so cannot be concrete
[22:06] <almoxarife> odam: no
[22:06] <sudokill> BrianH, no idea :s ive never purchased anything
[22:06] <almoxarife> odam: not yet
[22:06] <nicofs> robin0800_, ok, now it works and i have both computers using the same account... but the folders don't synchronize...
[22:06] <sudokill> odam, unity is probably ok for laptops
[22:07] <vanmik> hi all, can i do that with django template system — http://pastebin.com/1jR8dA60 ? it's not working now, "value" not reacheable in {% if %} statement — page actually render without errors, but if doesn't return true (and it must return true)
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> odam: I think it's fine
[22:07] <odam> ActionParsnip, will my mic/camera drivers work for ubuntu?
[22:08] <almoxarife> odam: what laptop you have?
[22:08] <odam> its a toshiba
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> odam: depends on the hardware, The drivers you have are most likely for Windows and are of no value to you
[22:08] <almoxarife> odam: me too, worked out of the box :)
[22:08] <sudokill> theres more than 1 toshiba laptop lol
[22:09] <canu-qumm> ActionParsnip: So, instead of help you tell me I just can't do it because I'm a noob? nice helping techniques you got there.
[22:09] <odam> toshiba sattelite A3O5D
[22:09] <odam> or 0
[22:09] <sudokill> canu-qumm, thats what ive been saying all along
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> canu-qumm: not my words, read: http://dwm.suckless.org/
[22:09] <sudokill> if you cant read log files, how can you set up dwm?
[22:09] <odam> satellite even
[22:09] <almoxarife> odam: 64bit?
[22:09] <almoxarife> odam: satellite here too
[22:09] <odam> idk
[22:09] <Corey> canu-qumm: Please strive to be less confrontational here; we're all volunteers.
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> canu-qumm: those are from the dwm site. I'd personally avoid people writing like that
[22:10] <canu-qumm> sudokill: you don't expect everyone to know HOW to read log files, right?
[22:10] <robin0800_> nicofs: and both computers are in devices? also make sure folders you want to synchronize are selected under cloud folders
[22:10] <sudokill> canu-qumm, like i said, if you have no clue, do lots of googling and reading up on it first
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: seems like an elite club, the tone of the site is really smarmy
[22:10] <almoxarife> odam: when I bought mine there was no mention of 64bit, did the ubuntu 64bit install by accident, worked, then I found out I had the 64bit laptop
[22:10] <nicofs> robin0800_, rebooting did the trick...
[22:10] <sudokill> canu-qumm, well reading logs is one of the most basic things tbh
[22:10] <sudokill> no offense
[22:10] <odam> lol
[22:11] <Corey> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I'm not such a fan of interfaces that require huge learning curves to pick up.  Then again I like vim, so...
[22:11] <odam> my crappy computer installed 64bit
[22:11] <sudokill> thats not me trying to be rude, but i think you should research first without getting annoyed in here
[22:11] <odam> i had thought it was 32bit bcoz crappy system
[22:11] <odam> but it turns out that the Celeron D processor is 64bit lol
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Corey: as long as it does what I needi'm happy to put effort in
[22:12] <sudokill> nano vs vim
[22:12] <canu-qumm> sudokill: Dammit, all I want is DWM not having to learn how to read something I don't give a shet for
[22:12] <Corey> ActionParsnip: Granted, but "I can't make this work" being met with "That's probably because you're stupid" by the developer doesn't exactly endear me to them. :-)
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> odam: 64bit it quite common
[22:12] <sudokill> canu-qumm, you cant have it then
[22:12] <sudokill> stick to gnome
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Corey: yeah totally but as long as the support is there its cool
[22:16] <sudokill> if you dont want to learn how to do it then theres nothing you can do, its not as simple as "installing it"
[22:16] <Maylow> canu-qumm, I want money not heaving to work... shame
[22:16] <odam> does anybody know how to get games to work on ubuntu?
[22:16] <Corey> !games | odam
[22:16] <odam> i tried running republic commando on 10.10 and it never works for me
[22:16] <nicofs> Every time I close my Laptop's lid, the system suspends even though I set it up differently...
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> odam: did you check the appdb?
[22:16] <odam> appdb?
[22:16] <almoxarife> odam: 11.04 ubuntu is going thru a identity crisis, hence why I said no, gnome? unity? hybrid? lots of tricks though that people are coming up with, so, that might be fun too
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | odam
[22:16] <Maylow> odam, PlayOnLinux from software center could help
[22:16] <canu-qumm> sudokill: But I don't want Gnome, and I don't want Windows or KDE or XFCE or VIm or Nano or whatever GUI is out there, I want DWM.
[22:16] <sudokill> nano and vim arent guis
[22:16] <canu-qumm> sudokill: Sounded like they were lol.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> odam: not all games work.Some refuse to even install, some work better than under windows
[22:16] <Maylow> odam, it's a pretty nice UI ove wine + prepared game configurations
[22:16] <sudokill> canu-qumm, you want dwm yet you havent tried it, and cant be bothered to read up on it. good luck with that
[22:16] <Maylow> odam, and not only for games
[22:16] <canu-qumm> sudokill: I already read a guide.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> odam: also ceck if there is a loki installer for it too
[22:16] <odam> loki?
[22:16] <canu-qumm> sudokill: Oh boy, gonna have to spend some 10 weeks reading some old poop to use DWM.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> odam: you'll see
[22:16] <sudokill> canu-qumm, yep
[22:16] <almoxarife> poop
[22:16] <aeiou> any idea where the source for flock is?
[22:16] <Mandrake> #nick
[22:16] <canu-qumm> canu-qumm: lol i can pm myself
[22:16] <sudokill> canu-qumm, its not for noobs, thats why i sggested using gnome until you want to put some work in to get dwm
[22:16] <aeiou> (the program)
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: flock is dead dude
[22:16] <odam> ActionParsnip, i found this link: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7255 what do i do now?
[22:16] <Mandrake> pm mandrake LOL
[22:16] <canu-qumm> sudokill: I've been using Gnome for months o-o
[22:16] <aeiou> really
[22:16] <sudokill> canu-qumm, and?
[22:16] <aeiou> ActionParsnip, what are the alternatives?
[22:16] <sudokill> some poeple use it for years
[22:16] <canu-qumm> sudokill: So if I have 35 years using Gnome, it doesn't matter?
[22:16] <qin> canu-qumm: Is it not simpler to use Awesome, since is practically preconfigured?
[22:16] <sudokill> not if you like it
[22:16] <sudokill> canu-qumm, i understand though you want to change and play around a bit
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: !browser | aeiou
[22:16] <aeiou> ?
[22:17] <Mandrake> #Ubuntu_Sucks
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: seems ubottu is sleeping
[22:17] <sudokill> madrake?
[22:17] <sudokill> sucks
[22:17] <share> Mandrake: ##windows
[22:17] <sudokill> majorly
[22:17] <FloodBot1> sudokill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Mandrake: it's  mandriva now ;)
[22:17] <sudokill> shows how much i care
[22:17] <Mandrake> Good 1 ActionParnship
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsers
[22:17] <odam> guys once i find a page on the wine website how do i get the game to run?
[22:17] <odam> :v
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Mandrake: I preferred it as mandrake, was my 2nd distro
[22:18] <aeiou> ActionParsnip, nonono not the browser
[22:18] <keimckk> I have Ubuntu 10.04 on a laptop and for some reason recently my computer has started to shut down by its self, its starting to get annoying and was wondering if this was a known Ubuntu issue or if it has to do with my actual laptop itself ?
[22:18] <sudokill> odam, what page?
[22:18] <aeiou> like /sbin/flock
[22:18] <Mandrake> Sudokill IDGAF
[22:18] <sudokill> what does that stand for
[22:18] <Corey> Mandrake: Keep it civil please.
[22:18] <odam> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7255 this one
[22:18] <almoxarife> canu-qumm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1053814 <-- poop
[22:18] <Mandrake> k Corey, he SUDO started
[22:18] <sudokill> odam, ive never actually used wine, but i think it lets you use /exes nativelly
[22:19] <odam> i know but what do i do on that page? :v
[22:19] <sudokill> i think youll need to do winecfg though
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: without installing the browser you won't have the binary, so there is no 'alternative' that simple
[22:19] <sudokill> odam, idk, read it?
[22:19] <odam> ok lol thanks
[22:19] <Mandrake> @ActionParsnip - It was my 3rd distro lol
[22:19] <almoxarife> odam: you already use ubuntu?
[22:19] <aeiou> ActionParsnip, omg
[22:19] <aeiou> please read -_-
[22:20] <share> some users in freenode think they are more than others just because they use it for a long time
[22:20] <share> !ot
[22:20] <Corey> share: Enough.
[22:20] <aeiou> ActionParsnip, im asking for the source code for /sbin/flock - the FILELOCK program
[22:20] <Mandrake> @Share _ I think the same
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: ok, what is flock then if it's not the browser
[22:20] <aeiou> this has nothing to do with a browser
[22:20] <share> Corey: are u also OP in here?
[22:20] <aeiou> ActionParsnip, man flock
[22:21] <Corey> share: This isn't the place to discuss grievances with other channels.
[22:21] <share> stalker
[22:21] <Prodego> share: see /msg chanserv access #channel list to get a list of ops
[22:21] <share> tks Prodego
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: ahhh, i see
[22:22] <share> *!*@freenode/staff/*
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: i've got /usr/bin/flock
[22:22] <rgl> hi
[22:22] <rgl> I've upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 but now it does not boot at all. grub seems to be spinning the cpu and not show the menu at all. any idea how to troubleshoot this?
[22:22] <Mandrake> #channel
[22:22] <aeiou> ActionParsnip, yes - but osx 10.6 doesnt have it
[22:22] <Noble_> What causes the least overhead you think, AirVideoServer running in Wine or in VirtualBox?
[22:22] <Mandrake> quit
[22:22] <Mandrake> f u all
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: why would that be a concern in this channel?
[22:23] <aeiou> hurrah v
[22:23] <aeiou> http://git.kernel.org/?p=utils/util-linux-ng/util-linux-ng.git;a=blob;f=sys-utils/flock.c
[22:25] <cpruitt> When editing /etc/default/grub do I add new parameters INSIDE of quotes and if so are they separated by spaces (as command line options are?  So for example would `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"` become `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet noapic"` or `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" noapic` ?  Everything I'm reading just says to "add it to the end of the line" but nothing seems to indicate the correct syntax.
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> cpruitt: in the quotes like the first one
[22:26] <canu-qumm> almoxarife: you life saver :D
[22:26] <canu-qumm> almoxarife: that helps me!
[22:26] <nicofs> Is there a way to monitor the progress synchronization in Ubuntu One? It has been synchronizing some MB for ages now... is it supposed to be that slow?
[22:26] <cpruitt> ActionParsnip: So it's GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="space separated list of options" correct?
[22:27] <sudokill> cpruit 99% of the time it's always in the quotes seperated by spaces
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> cpruitt: exactly.  I got md2 & md1, I managed to shrink md2, but when I try to grow md1 it says no free space left on disk, any ideas ?
[22:29] <cpruitt> ActionParsnip: Thanks very much.  That's very helpful.  If I do something wrong will `sudo update-grub2` alert me and cancel the update or just hose my boot loader?  ;-)
[22:29] <canu-qumm> almoxarife: kay dude
[22:31] <DarkM> Anybody ? :/
[22:32] <rewt> is md1 first on the drive?  when you shrunk md2, did it just free up space after it, so you have: md1, md2, space ?
[22:32] <DarkM> rewt: Its a raid device so basically I got this :
[22:32] <Geekydude4> Does anyone know if there is a C programming channel?
[22:32] <rewt> Geekydude4, try #c or ##c
[22:32] <Geekydude4> thanks
[22:32] <DarkM> rewt: http://d.pr/gnmB
[22:33] <joepros> hi i run a pc repair shop.  I have a visual basic program i use to install basic software on windows pcs...acroreader, service packs, etc.  I run it off a flash drive now but it has gotten over 8 gigs. was hoping someone new a server that would run this for me
[22:33] <DarkM> I want my sda1 and sdb1 to get space from sda2 and sdb2
[22:33] <DarkM> So I managed to shrink md2
[22:33] <DarkM> At least it seems like it
[22:34] <Nobgul-bnc> joepros, this is #ubuntu help channel. Not sure that this is the right place to ask that question, honestly not sure what channel to point you towards either
[22:34] <xyos> joepros try http://ninite.com
[22:34] <nicofs> In my energy options in the section "When battery power is critically low" I can only choose between Suspend/Hibernate/Shutdown - I want neither... Is that possible?
[22:34] <rewt> yeah, so when you shrunk that, you probably created space between sda2 and sda3 (and similar on sdb)
[22:35] <rewt> you may need to nudge sda/b2 down to sda/b3 to make space between sda/b1 and sda/b2
[22:35] <|Anthony|> i made a sounds theme and installed it in /usr/share/sounds
[22:35] <|Anthony|> but there are some sounds that don't play even though i followed the freedesktop.org sound naming spec... My primary concern are system-bootup and system-ready.
[22:35] <DarkM> Hmm..
[22:36] <DarkM> rewt: I have no idea how you do that, could you tell me the name of the command tool to do that
[22:36] <DarkM> And i'll google it
[22:36] <sudokill> DarkM, gparted would be safer
[22:36] <sudokill> as you cant get a command wrong
[22:36] <DarkM> Then what option would it be ? :o
[22:36] <DarkM> Plus..
[22:36] <DarkM> Its a server
[22:36] <DarkM> I can only use parted
[22:36] <FloodBot1> DarkM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <sudokill> shrink and grow options
[22:36] <sudokill> oh ok sorry no gui...
[22:36] <sudokill> lol
[22:36] <|Anthony|> i get the feeling that these sounds wont play because they are stored in /usr... is there a different place they should be installed for a global effect?
[22:36] <DarkM> X) Sorry :D.
[22:37] <rewt> `man parted` says there's a move command to move the partitions, but i'm not sure how well that behaves with raid
[22:38] <DarkM> Gosh :/
[22:38] <DarkM> Gonna google more and more
[22:38] <sudokill> i have no exp with raid
[22:38] <sudokill> no idea about data losssss etc
[22:38] <DarkM> :/
[22:39] <sudokill> DarkM, are you trying to grow a partition with no free space in front of it?
[22:40] <ijkm> http://nowaygetreal.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/google-vs-the-others/
[22:40] <DarkM> Nah
[22:40] <DarkM> I do have free space
[22:41] <almoxarife> does opening a file flag same?, how can I see realtime flagging?
[22:41] <almoxarife> I have an odd problem, I like using Miro, Miro does a really good job of keeping a video library current if you use it, I also like using ps3server, it allows me to watch that video from miro on the big screen, my issue comes down to somehow having miro accept that the show being watched thru ps3server is equal to being seen thru miro ( then it would update, remove the stale and d/l new stuff) , so, how does one in terminal fake out
[22:42] <FluttershyFan> I just install ubuntu on my computer, and when I try to start it up it freezes forever in the ubuntu start screen.. why is this so?
[22:42] <Greyscale> Ubuntu box. How can I let apache do whatever the hell it likes with files? it doesn't have permission to change some files because its owned by foobar rather than apache. I don't want to chmod them all to apache.
[22:42] <almoxarife> FluttershyFan: start screen?
[22:43] <FluttershyFan> yes, start screen that says ubuntu with5 dots under it
[22:43] <FluttershyFan> I can move my mouse around though
[22:44] <canu-qumm> sudokill: I'm on DWM now.
[22:44] <sudokill> good
[22:44] <canu-qumm> :D
[22:44] <almoxarife> FluttershyFan: you have not seen it move beyond the 'splash' screen, and you tried waiting for how long?
[22:44] <sudokill> after all that youll probably end up hating it lol
[22:44] <canu-qumm> all thanks to, almoxarlife :D
[22:44] <FluttershyFan> 10 minutes
[22:45] <canu-qumm> sudokill: How come? I'm reading a tutorial on customizing dwm.
[22:45] <canu-qumm> I already know the shortcuts, so what's so hard?
[22:45] <sudokill> i dont mean hard
[22:45] <canu-qumm> sudokill: It's called dedication.
[22:45] <sudokill> your the one who said you didnt want to be readin up on it! lol
[22:45] <almoxarife> canu-qumm: I can't take credit for 'googling'
[22:45] <canu-qumm> sudokill: Didn't want to?  During the last hour only about 4MB were uploaded...
[22:47] <almoxarife> sudokill: why would it be a problem telling someone to invest in googling?
[22:47] <sudokill> not allowed in here..
[22:47] <almoxarife> sudokill: really?
[22:47] <canu-qumm> sudokill: That was because I didnt want to know how to read logs, not dwm
[22:47] <canu-qumm> sudokill: lol.
[22:47] <FluttershyFan> my computer just shut off now after waitin like 11 minutes for it to star
[22:47] <glac> Hey guys. Can anybody help me with some problems I've been having getting my digital camera to work? I can't get my canon powershot to download files properly. gtkam and gphoto2 aren't working
[22:47] <sudokill> canu-qumm, ok well logs are useful not poop youll learn that one day :p
[22:48] <canu-qumm> sudokill: whatevs man at least i got dwm working correctly! :D and thats what im happy about
[22:48] <sudokill> good
[22:48] <canu-qumm> Alt+P lets you look for all applications, I chose Konsole for the moment.
[22:48] <DriversBroken> oh great
[22:48] <canu-qumm> this seems fun :D
[22:48] <DriversBroken> This update manager thingymabob has completely stopped progress
[22:48] <sudokill> its probably still working..
[22:49] <DriversBroken> And I thought that ***tty updating was somethign only windows had
[22:49] <sudokill> sometimes it appaears to hang
[22:49] <DriversBroken> sudokill, the details thing hasn't printed anything in 30 minues
[22:49] <sudokill> retry it
[22:49] <DriversBroken> cancel button is grayed out
[22:49] <sudokill> DriversBroken, of course you need to update
[22:49] <shamess> Is there a default ftp demon that's installed?
[22:49] <sudokill> it just does it better than windows
[22:49] <shamess> *daemon
[22:49] <sudokill> DriversBroken, try the system monitor choose it and select kill
[22:50] <FluttershyFan> I started computer up again and now all I get is a black screen, and im able to move a mouse around
[22:50] <RA_drc> !bit
[22:50] <Eitan> soooo, what could be the cause of the battery not working anymore on my backbookpro after installing ubuntu......
[22:50] <DriversBroken> sudokill:  No, I thought that poorly managed dependency hell updating was something linux fixed.
[22:50] <sudokill> what dependency hell
[22:50] <almoxarife> shamess: there is
[22:50] <sudokill> ubuntu does it all for you
[22:50] <DriversBroken> sudokill:  Well, windows has dependency hell, I was just venting abit at windows :P
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: it can happen, its just rare
[22:51] <shamess> almoxarife: Lovely! What is it?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> shamess: no but you can install an ftp server, or install openssh-server and get an sftp server
[22:51] <DriversBroken> sudokill:  I have no idea which process it is
[22:51] <sudokill> neither do i
[22:51] <sudokill> :(
[22:51] <shamess> ActionParsnip: Oh right. SFTP would make me more comfortable, so I'll set that up. Thanks.
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Eitan: which macbook isit?
[22:52] <DriversBroken> sudokill:  Well, I do have a "zombie" process, should I kill that?
[22:52] <sudokill> DriversBroken, maybe try rebooting if its hung and try again it shouldnt be hanging...
[22:52] <qin> DriversBroken: You cannot kill zombie
[22:52] <sudokill> if rebooting isnt a problem
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> shamess: also allows secure access outside of the LAN
[22:53] <guitar_dave> hello auspicious panel of of intellectuals
[22:53] <PythonSnake> Hi guitar_dave
[22:54] <guitar_dave> :0
[22:54] <sudokill> hi
[22:54] <guitar_dave> sudo...hello
[22:54] <sudokill> \''/ ^_^ \''/
[22:54] <guitar_dave> and Python
[22:55] <guitar_dave> is there a way for me to review past chats?
[22:55] <FluttershyFan> so.. are there any reasons ubuntu just sits here at a blank screen when it starts?..
[22:55] <sudokill> guitar_dave, what irc client do you use
[22:55] <sudokill> guitar_dave, it depends if you have logging enabled
[22:55] <guitar_dave> xchat
[22:55] <qwer> just installed gridwars, when I play about 5 min it gets closed .... Why could that be ??
[22:55] <sudokill> i use that, should be in home folder /.xchat2 logs
[22:55] <sudokill> or similar idk i disable logging
[22:56] <guitar_dave> home folder....
[22:56] <sudokill> actually i think you have to manually enable it, check in the settings
[22:56] <glac> can anybody help me with a camera issue?
[22:56] <sudokill> guitar_dave, make sure hidden files are shown and it'll be called .xchat2
[22:56] <guitar_dave> ok..i just clicked the preferences tab
[22:57] <xyos> whats your issue?
[22:57] <sudokill> guitar_dave, now logging...
[22:57] <sudokill> see if enable logging of convos  to disk is enabled
[22:57] <sudokill> if not, then you cant view them
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> qwer: try disabling compiz first
[22:57] <guitar_dave> sudo...under discussions?.
[22:57] <sudokill> under "chatting" on mine
[22:58] <qwer> ActionParsnip: using fluxbox, there is no compiz
[22:58] <sudokill> idk maybe i have a different version, youll find it
[22:58] <glac> xyos I can't manage to import photos from my canon powershot to my comp. I've tried using gtkam and gphoto2, but they aren't working
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> qwer: cool, try launching it from terminal
[22:59] <qwer> ActionParsnip: already did that ;)
[22:59] <sudokill> it should display errors
[22:59] <guitar_dave> sudo... i will check out how folder
[22:59] <qwer> but it still hangs after about 5 min
[22:59] <qwer> closes*
[22:59] <guitar_dave> *Home* folder
[23:00] <sudokill> ok
[23:00] <Eitan> action: macbook pro 3-1
[23:00] <qwer> ActionParsnip: will try it now with more less graphic effects
[23:00] <Eitan> 3,1
[23:02] <guitar_dave> sudo...worked great
[23:02] <belal> !find libXv.so.1
[23:02] <Chocky> so, HDMI output on my intel chipset on my desktop used to work, and I could select HDMI audio out.  but now, there's no option.  Not sure if this was before Natty upgrade or not.  what's missing?
[23:02] <sudokill> guitar_dave, ok
[23:03] <guitar_dave> everything is in home folder under xchat2
[23:03] <sudokill> yea
[23:03] <guitar_dave> :)
[23:03] <sudokill> most files are in your home
[23:03] <canu-qumm> back
[23:03] <sudokill> canu-qumm, hows dwm goin
[23:03] <sudokill> g
[23:03] <canu-qumm> it's been fine actually
[23:03] <sudokill> ok
[23:03] <canu-qumm> getting used to the whole keyboard shortcut thing :D but its all going great
[23:04] <canu-qumm> still trying to find out how to open my folders, but oh well :P
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Eitan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook3-1/Lucid   may help
[23:04] <xyos> i preffer xmonad for tiling windows you should try it too
[23:05] <Chocky> anyone?
[23:05] <sudokill> Chocky, is there no hdmi out in the audio driver bit
[23:06] <Chocky> why?  Licensing issueS?
[23:06] <sudokill> ?
[23:06] <Chocky> indeed, ? yourself.
[23:06] <Chocky> HDMI video and audio (to my TV) used to work.
[23:07] <sudokill> have you checked in the audio device section
[23:07] <sudokill> to see if its still set to default
[23:07] <Chocky> there was an explicit option there for the audio.  But now it's gone
[23:07] <Chocky> hm, wait
[23:07] <qwer> Gridwars kicks me out after some minutes of playing .... Why could that be??
[23:07] <Chocky> sorry, was wrong
[23:08] <Chocky> how about the HDMI video?
[23:08] <qwer> This is printed into terminal: "appstub.linux signal handler 11"
[23:08] <canu-qumm> erm
[23:08] <zeppelin101> do you guys know any text editors you would recommend? I do not want to use gedit, vim or ultraedit for various reasons..
[23:08] <sudokill> nano
[23:08] <canu-qumm> guys..
[23:08] <sudokill> is the best
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> zeppelin101: nano all the way
[23:08] <sudokill> lol
[23:08] <zeppelin101> isnt nano commandline..
[23:08] <FluttershyFan> it seems ubuntu wont start with my graphics card in
[23:08] <sudokill> yea
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> zeppelin101: yep
[23:08] <canu-qumm> alt+p shouldnt interfere when im on a program
[23:08] <canu-qumm> but it does
[23:08] <zeppelin101> hardy har har..
[23:08] <canu-qumm> and now i cant scroll down
[23:09] <canu-qumm> lol
[23:09] <sudokill> zeppelin101, gedit and nano are the best 2 imo
[23:09] <FloodBot1> canu-qumm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> zeppelin101: or leafpad
[23:09] <qwer> got the solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=854208
[23:09] <canu-qumm> lol
[23:09] <zeppelin101> sudokill: it so happens that gedit actually cant open certain files that vim can,for example. but vim is just annoying compared to notepad++ or gedit for example
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> FluttershyFan: did you disable the onboard in BIOS first?
[23:09] <sudokill> canu-qumm, im sure youll enjoy all sorts of problems
[23:09] <sudokill> zeppelin101, vim is annoying yes, and slow to use
[23:09] <canu-qumm> sudokill: Yeah, I'm new so I will encounter problems and I will feel happy about fixing them by myself.
[23:10] <FluttershyFan> yes
[23:10] <sudokill> zeppelin101, what do you mean cant open? nano should be able to open ones gedit cant
[23:10] <zeppelin101> sudokill: gedit couldnt open a malformed html file
[23:10] <zeppelin101> and i want a GUI text editor
[23:10] <bastidrazor> sudokill: if you don't know how to use it.
[23:10] <sudokill> not sure about those... lol
[23:10] <Nisstyre> yes
[23:10] <bastidrazor> zeppelin101: scite
[23:10] <sudokill> bastidrazor, i do know, i just prefer nano
[23:10] <canu-qumm> sudokill: there's like 9 workspaces
[23:10] <FluttershyFan> it starts up perfectly when its not in, but when it is in it just stays on splash screen forever
[23:10] <zeppelin101> bastidrazor: i'll look it up
[23:11] <canu-qumm> sudokill: so when there's not many processes, i can keep chrome in one and terminal on other
[23:11] <sudokill> yea
[23:11] <extraclassic> zeppelin101: bluefish is a gui text editor that's geared towards html
[23:11] <sudokill> you can change to however many workspaces you want
[23:11] <sudokill> 2 is good enough for me
[23:11] <muchon> en que canal en español me pueden ayudar ?
[23:11] <zeppelin101> so far all i can say is that Notepad++ >>>>>>>>> everything else
[23:11] <bastidrazor> !es | muchon
[23:12] <muchon> ubottu gracias
[23:12] <zeppelin101> though Scite actually look verrry nice from screenshots
[23:12] <zeppelin101> *looks
[23:13] <jacobite> hello all
[23:13] <canu-qumm> sudokill: u see? i found out how to open folders; i had to open nautilus lol
[23:14] <sudokill> yea, thats  the file manager
[23:14] <sudokill> lol
[23:14] <sudokill> you're learning :)
[23:14] <FluttershyFan> is there a chance ubuntu 11 isnt comptible with my graphics card?
[23:15] <zeppelin101> FluttershyFan: it's a very slim chance - but why dont you try the live CD?
[23:15] <sudokill> FluttershyFan, did you upgrade from 10.10?
[23:15] <FluttershyFan> dang it only had 1 blank cd and I wasted it on ubuntu 11
[23:15] <jacobite> hi im new andreanna has been helping me setup my system might have the wrong room tho please helpty
[23:15] <FluttershyFan> I downloaded 11 and install from cd
[23:16] <sudokill> FluttershyFan, cdrws are worth having
[23:16] <aspek> FluttershyFan: probably you need to install the drivers for your graphics card to get full potential of your gc, like 3d stuff
[23:17] <jacobite> will unreal tournament run on this system ??? please
[23:17] <FluttershyFan> how do I install the drivers if I cant start it up?
[23:17] <sudokill> you cant
[23:17] <sudokill> i think youre pretty much stuck
[23:18] <FluttershyFan> o_o
[23:18] <dee27> any hd player for ubuntu?
[23:18] <aspek> FluttershyFan: you did not mention the exact issue, what happens when you insert the cd and boot up?
[23:18] <sudokill> vlc, mplayer etc
[23:18] <sudokill> dee27, vlc is most common
[23:18] <FluttershyFan> cant I take the graphics card out and install drivers?
[23:19] <sudokill> no, because your pc wouldnt boot
[23:19] <sudokill> i dont think
[23:19] <sudokill> and if it did, you couldnt see anything lol
[23:20] <FluttershyFan> my computer boots up ok when my graphics card is not in
[23:20] <sudokill> FluttershyFan, disable integrated maybe
[23:20] <sudokill> my bad it prob does that itself
[23:20] <tzhuang> anyone know is there is a channel for mzscheme/plt-scheme/racket?
[23:20] <FluttershyFan> it is disabled, and im gonna see what the live cd does
[23:20] <peterhil> tzhuang: try #scheme
[23:20] <tzhuang> peterhil: thanks
[23:20] <sudokill> FluttershyFan, you culd install drivers using your integrated card but youd have to do it manually as the additional dirvers wouldnt detect the card
[23:20] <sudokill> what card is it you're using? nvidia?
[23:21] <sudokill> nvidia and ati should work out the box..
[23:21] <MrKeuner> hello, trying to install a printer, how can I decide what queue mode I should be using?
[23:21] <FluttershyFan> ati radeon 5670 series
[23:21] <sudokill> the kernel driver should work
[23:22] <sudokill> its not recommended to manually install drivers so itd be a bit messy
[23:23] <extraclassic> FluttershyFan: if you have integrated video and a card, you have to disable the integrated and enable the video card in the bios or the screen will be black
[23:23] <FluttershyFan> the live cd works
[23:23] <sudokill> bios does that for you
[23:23] <MrKeuner> I clicked on Probe and now I have all the options of the world
[23:23] <sudokill> specially in this day and age
[23:23] <MrKeuner> Just can't figure the right one...
[23:23] <FluttershyFan> yea, my bios autolatically adjusts setting for gfx cards
[23:24] <vaibhav> hey guys, I have a few questions:
[23:24] <vaibhav> why is PostgreSQL still in 8.4.8 version? 9.0 was out waaaayyy back!
[23:27] <googled> anyone know a good ebook to learn about ubuntu networking
[23:27] <duvel> histo, I'm very interested in keeping ubuntu as my permanent OS, but I'm wondering -- how do I run iTunes in ubuntu?
[23:27] <FluttershyFan> when I do try ubuntu with live cd it sets at a black screen and im able to move my mouse around
[23:27] <vaibhav> IS it OKay to distribute Ubuntu with VLC added into it?
[23:28] <googled> wheres a good place to learn about ubuntu networking
[23:28] <googled> ?????
[23:28] <sudokill> google
[23:28] <FluttershyFan> is there a chance that ubuntu 10 will work?
[23:29] <sudokill> you could try it
[23:29] <googled> googled
[23:29] <extraclassic> duvel: rhythmbox is a lot like iTunes
[23:29] <FluttershyFan> only 1 problem.. I dont have any more live cd's
[23:29] <duvel> FluttershyFan: Ubuntu 10 works fantastically. I'm using it now
[23:30] <duvel> extraclassic: Can't sync my iPhone with Rhythmbox
[23:30] <sudokill> FluttershyFan, you should pick up a cdrw or dvdrw that way you can play around with what you want
[23:30] <lewisperry> How do you change your external ip adress?
[23:30] <googled> sudokill you could say that about every question asked on irc
[23:30] <FluttershyFan> I do have cdrw drive
[23:30] <kanlacism> Hi, I just updated Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 (VirtualBox VM in a Windows Vista host) and now it won't boot. It just hangs on the splash screen (Ubuntu logo with red dots under it) - What can I do?
[23:30] <sudokill> disc i mean
[23:30] <extraclassic> duvel: iTunes doesn't work in Wine as far as I know
[23:30] <duvel> extraclassic: Okay, Thank you.
[23:31] <julie101010> lewisperry, if on DSL, you could probably just restart the modem, otherwise contact your ISP
[23:31] <duvel> lewisperry: install TOR :)
[23:31] <vaibhav> kanlacism, get Ubuntu as the host, Windows as the guest; that would be the best bet :D
[23:31] <FluttershyFan> hey im having the same problem as kanlacism
[23:31] <julie101010> anyone know how to setup identd for gnome xchat?
[23:32] <sudokill> FluttershyFan, get a blank disc and try 10.10
[23:32] <kanlacism> vaibhav: I'm not gonna screw around with my setup if I don't have to. It was working fine until I did the dist upgrade. Are you saying 11.04 is incompatible with VirtualBox?
[23:32] <sudokill> has so much less problems
[23:32] <sudokill> all i hear is people cant boot with 11.04
[23:32] <sudokill> or its slow
[23:32] <extraclassic> lewisperry: I heard somewhere you could unplug your modem and wait a couple hours and the ISP would give you another IP...depends on the lease time though
[23:32] <sudokill> normally lease time is years
[23:32] <vaibhav> kanlacism, I think you should check out the Vbox version instead.
[23:32] <sudokill> maybe some isps are different
[23:33] <duvel> julie101010, you have to forward the port on your router to your internal ip address
[23:33] <extraclassic> bad idea I guess
[23:33] <julie101010> duvel, which port does it use?
[23:33] <vaibhav> kanlacism, moreover, its VISTA... so anything can fail anytime. I have really bad experiences with that OS...it bloody came free with my laptop.
[23:33] <sudokill> idk maybe some isps do that but i doubt it you normally have an ip for a long long time unless you phone isp
[23:33] <duvel> julie101010, port 113
[23:33] <julie101010> thanks
[23:34] <FluttershyFan> well taking out my graphics card fixed my ubuntu 11 freezing at splash screen problem. maby 11 is just very uncompatible with gfx cards
[23:34] <duvel> julie101010, no problem
[23:34] <sudokill> FluttershyFan, i think its just a bad release in general
[23:34] <FluttershyFan> im gonna search the house for a blank cd
[23:34] <kanlacism> FluttershyFan: Are you running it in a VM as well?
[23:35] <duvel> lol
[23:35] <FluttershyFan> nope, I installed to hard drive using cd
[23:35] <FluttershyFan> kanlacism: do you have a graphics card as well?
[23:36] <kanlacism> FluttershyFan: Yes
[23:37] <kanlacism> Is there any way I can at least get an error message? I've tried Alt+F1, etc.
[23:37] <duvel> try booting in verbose mode
[23:37] <Matr|X> hello
[23:38] <Matr|X> i have so meny corn job on my email :O i got all var mail in txt :O so i want some one see it if im hacked or wht ?
[23:38] <kion1> if I do a Ctrl + Alt + F1 it takes me to a text login screen, with 640x480 texts (huge) is there a way to configure it to something better..?
[23:38] <FluttershyFan> kanlacism: try doing ubuntu 11 without your graphics in your computer
[23:38] <Matr|X> plz some body help me
[23:39] <Matr|X> i have so meny corn job on my mail
[23:39] <duvel> FluttershyFan do you know how impossible that is
[23:39] <kanlacism> FluttershyFan: I can't. My mobo's integrated graphics doesn't have a DVI port
[23:39] <Matr|X> hello
[23:39] <Matr|X> this my var mail "/var/mail/root": 11570 messages 11541 new 11570 unread
[23:39] <Matr|X> its alot and very alot
[23:39] <FluttershyFan> get a converter? :D
[23:39] <Matr|X> i grep it to txt on my desktop
[23:40] <Matr|X> i want some one to see if im get hacked or wht ?
[23:40] <vaibhav> looks like no one is gonna answer :(
[23:40] <i2iot> what's the shortcut to minimize windows?
[23:40] <FluttershyFan> im going to get ubuntu 10, I think 11 just aint right
[23:40] <duvel> get ubuntu 10 and update to 10.10
[23:40] <duvel> then leave it there
[23:41] <Fudge> hi looking for a cli app that can play video
[23:42] <xangua> Fudge: mplayer
[23:42] <anomaliz> hello
[23:42] <anomaliz> everybody
[23:43] <qin> vaibhav: 1. Ubuntu do not always uses latest version, 2. vlc is open source, but some codecs, read license
[23:43] <Matr|X> im having so meny mails from and unknown
[23:43] <Matr|X>  U 26 root@Sys           Thu Jan 13 07:30   20/642   Cron <root@Sys> start -q anacron || :
[23:43] <Matr|X> Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001.  Type ? for help.
[23:43] <Matr|X> "/var/mail/root": 11570 messages 11541 new 11570 unread
[23:43] <Matr|X> is this normal ?
[23:43] <vaibhav> qin, Well, So if I go for an full VLC redistribution with Ubuntu, I am in problems I think :(
[23:43] <Bridge|> when i do sudo service mysql start|restart|stop...... what script is being triggered?
[23:44] <Fudge> xangua  mplayer needs X, im running without X
[23:45] <anomaliz> which is it the best video converter?
[23:45] <jose> mencoder
[23:46] <anomaliz> it has interface ?
[23:46] <anomaliz> who knows to design ?
[23:46] <qin> Fudge: mplayer do not need x
[23:47] <jose> its pure text
[23:47] <maggot> its pure amazing
[23:47] <Fudge> qin
[23:47] <Fudge> vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
[23:47] <Fudge> Can't open /dev/fb0: Permission denied
[23:48] <szal> !best | anomaliz
[23:48] <qin> Fudge: sudo? and what -vo
[23:49] <anomaliz> oh ok I see I'm sorry
[23:49] <anomaliz> I just want to choose one for me
[23:49] <anomaliz> thanks you
[23:49] <Fudge> dont know what the vo is loL
[23:50] <wildbat>  XD
[23:50] <Fudge> video output i reckon
[23:50] <fishscene> Greetings! I am using Ubuntu 10.04. I'm trying to create a launcher that opens a network folder based on the logged-in user's name. For example: smb://moo.grasslands.farm/barn/user/$LOGNAME.   However, the launcher literally tries to open a folder called $LOGNAME, instead of seeing it as a system variable. Is there a way to tell it that $LOGNAME is a variable?
[23:50] <qin> Fudge: mplayer -vo help; man mplayer
[23:50] <brightspark> youtube quit working in firefox today- any ideas why?
[23:51] <qin> Fudge: You need also vesa driver to use mplayer in tty
[23:52] <K350> is there a way to view images in terminal mode?
[23:52] <qin> K350: Yes, fbi
[23:53] <qin> K350: fbi is framebuffer image viewer, for gnome-terminal (etc) you can use feh
[23:53] <Fudge> im going through it qin  tks
[23:54] <ZykoticK9> qin, "You need also vesa driver to use mplayer in tty" or just "..-vo aa.." ;)
[23:54] <qin> ZykoticK9: hehe
[23:55] <qin> ZykoticK9: Usually I watch Matrix this way....
[23:55] <ZykoticK9> qin, makes it more accurate eh?  ;)
[23:56] <qin> knock knock...
[23:56] <ZykoticK9> lol
[23:58] <K350> qin: Great, I'll to check if that one is in the repo:-)
[23:58] <fishscene> Does anyone know how to insert a variable in a launcher path? For example: smb://moo.grasslands.farm/barn/user/$LOGNAME
[23:59] <thewanderer1> fishscene: that's impossible, you'll have to generate the launcher on login or sth like that
[23:59] <fishscene> criminy
[23:59] <wildbat> fishscene:  make a script ~ and have launcher launcher that


[02:43] <derekv> so my problem is, i'm always trying to learn just to learn, but apart from that i'm too add and don't ever land anywhere long enough to stick
[02:43] <derekv> as far as a project
[02:43] <derekv> or a cause
[02:43] <derekv> my tech and development skills need some "cause"
[02:43] <derekv> outside of work
[02:44] <derekv> there's a whole bunch of stuff i could do probably.  just unable to fix on one thing.
[02:58] <snap-l> derekv: I find I have too many interests
[02:58] <snap-l> and I never manage to get beyond the beginning phases before I want to do something else.
[03:05] <derekv> yea
[03:06] <derekv> anyone go to the google thing?
[03:07] <derekv> i paid for it
[03:07] <derekv> but that was before i realized what i had was norovirus
[03:07] <derekv> pretty sure nobody there wants the norovirus
[04:07] <derekv> rick_h_, did you do any treatment / work on the door used for you desk
[11:18] <tony-smlr> SMLR is  live Video http://www.youtube.com/embed/Wn_98hpPQYA - - Audio: http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming
[11:39] <rick_h_> derekv: yea, I put a few coats of poly on it
[11:42] <brousch> Oh wonderful. You can see my workplace on the right of this photo http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kent_county/crash-knocks-out-power-in-wyoming
[17:28] <derekv> that isn't much work to save a lot of money
[17:28] <derekv> might have to use the easy button on this one
[17:38] <snap-l> Afternoon
[18:20] <derekv> intel 1gb pci card in my fileserver stopped being recognized
[18:20] <derekv> i think that its a bad card
[18:24] <derekv> whoa
[18:24] <derekv> i guess they have 4tb drives now
[18:25] <derekv> STOP THE TRAIN =]
[19:25] <snap-l> Afternoon
[19:25] <snap-l> derekv: Yeah, they keep trying to bend the laws of physics so you can store all that pr0n
[19:25] <snap-l> You're welcome.
[19:32] <derekv> i'm slightly interested in used server board that can take ecc, 64b, and/or a chasis
[19:32] <derekv> if anyone knows of one
[19:33] <derekv> one thing i always really liked about AMD
[20:15] <derekv> not a bad card
[20:15] <derekv> and now it won't post
[20:22] <rick_h_> ruh roh
[20:24] <derekv> correction, we have received some new information
[20:25] <derekv> it seems that it is a bad card
[20:25] <derekv> removed the card, now it posts =]
[20:25] <derekv> so maybe i should have removed the card when trying a different card
[20:52] <derekv> to the microcenter!


[00:29] <zenrox> yawn
[00:29] <bkerensa> :D
[00:29] <bkerensa> DJ Master
[00:30] <zenrox> lol
[00:30] <zenrox> not really
[00:30] <zenrox> i just like music
[00:30] <zenrox> and know what others like
[02:28] <valorie> back from the highland games, and dinner
[03:08] <MarkDude> So I am still tired from Portland
[03:09] <valorie> ME TOO
[03:10] <valorie> I could barely drag myself out of the house to go to the Highland Games
[03:10] <valorie> but I thought about how many more I'll be able to attend with my dad
[03:10] <valorie> gulped some more coffee, and went
[03:10] <valorie> glad I did
[03:10] <valorie> but tuesday morning is gonna be mighty early
[03:10] <valorie> and soon
[03:10] <MarkDude> Was fun stuff?
[03:11] <MarkDude> Did you toss any kabers?
[03:11] <valorie> lol
[03:11] <valorie> mostly just listened to pipe band music
[03:11] <valorie> that's his favorite
[03:11] <valorie> and I love it too
[03:11] <valorie> had to eat a scone, of course
[03:12] <valorie> they were tossing the cabers across the field, though
[03:13] <valorie> I can see you doing it
[03:13] <valorie> with your present hair
[03:13] <valorie> and in a kilt
[03:13] <valorie> totally
[03:46] <bkerensa> Cool
[07:51] <bkerensa> mmm
[08:00]  * valorie is listening to The New by Interpol on Turn On the Bright Lights [Amarok]
[08:00] <bkerensa> :D
[08:00] <bkerensa> I need a Banshee to XChat tool :)
[08:01] <valorie> I'm sure there is a script
[08:01] <valorie> I know there is one for Amarok > Xchat
[08:07] <bkerensa> I have tried a few xchat scripts so far they all were broken
[08:07] <bkerensa> :P
[08:07] <bkerensa> not having much faith that the scripts on xchat.org work
[08:07] <valorie> I'm sure #banshee will know
[18:50] <bkerensa> mmm
[19:00] <MarkDude> Connection issues
[19:01]  * MarkDude wants to go carry his laptop into garden - and back in house. And repeat like 30 times
[19:01]  * thefinn93 recently setup a BNC and loves it
[19:01]  * thefinn93 no longer has any connection issues
[19:08] <bkerensa> PsyBNC
[19:15] <thefinn93> I like ZNC
[19:15] <thefinn93> but i haven't tried anything else
[19:29] <cj> http://www.google.com/search?q=pco+responsibilities&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aunofficial&source=hp&q=pco+responsibilities+WA+democrats&pbx=1&oq=pco+responsibilities+WA+democrats&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=28220l32310l0l32764l13l11l0l0l0l0l497l2950l<IP_ADDRESS>.2l11l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=f91b81db412b9159&biw=1390&bih=605
[19:29] <cj> "pco responsibilities WA democrats" returns results for 40th district
[19:29] <cj> maybe it's 'cuz they know I'm in 40th district
[19:30] <cj> valorie: should I hold a cheer leading party?
[20:48] <valorie> hey cj
[21:13] <bkerensa> :D
[21:19] <valorie> cj, copying your link takes me to the 40th too
[21:20] <valorie> same with googling your phrase
[21:20]  * valorie ain't in the 40th
[23:02] <seattlegaucho> stupid network
[23:17] <seattlegaucho> lets see if ipv4 works better