[04:34] <d9500> marco: if by audio mixer you mean volume control, it is by default in the top right corner of the upper gnome panel, in a fresh ubuntu install. It looks like a little triangle with three lines, increasing in size from left to right.
[04:34] <sync350> hm, well, marco, try running alsamixer
[04:34] <nightshade> like on gentoo
[04:34] <nightshade> ?
[04:35] <foo> hm, ubuntu desktop 8.10 is hanging during the load up screen. I'm trying to boot for disk. gah, *looks for newer disk*
[04:35] <d9500> marco: if you want a more advanced and configurable control you can run sudo aptitude install gnome-alsamixer, then you should see an entry for "GNOME Alsa Mixer under applications-->sound and video
[04:35] <foo> any tips?
[04:35] <SeaPhor> foo, why 8.10?
[04:36] <foo> SeaPhor: it's a p4 box, it's all I have laying around atm
[04:36] <SeaPhor> foo, then use 8.04,, 8.10 was,, well.. not good imo
[04:36] <knoppies> foo, Im running 9.04 on an old P4, as long as I dont go overboard with compiz, its fine
[04:36] <sarthor> HI, my pppoe server says, pppoe: read (asyncReadFromPPP): Session 1: Input/output error , only one login is able to be login, each other ID gave this error, While the login/passwod are correct, HELP
[04:37] <foo> knoppies: I'm using it as a server
[04:37] <knoppies> foo, kk. my bad
[04:37] <freemywrld> Hello, I installed 9.10 RC the other day and everything works fine except certain websites in FF 3.5 cause my system to hard freeze
[04:37] <kevdog> When is 9.10 being released?
[04:38] <fsck1> good question kevdog
[04:38] <sync350> I think it's 2 days now.
[04:38] <knoppies> kevdog, you should find that on the ubuntu website im sure. I heared on the 29th
[04:38] <foo> knoppies: np
[04:38] <foo> thanks
[04:38] <knoppies> freemywrld, could it be a FF addon?
[04:38] <sync350> yep, ubuntu.com confirms that it's 2 days
[04:39] <knoppies> thanks sync350
[04:39] <freemywrld> The only things installed are Flash, Java, and Ad Block Plus
[04:39] <kevdog> Obviously Im a day behind you guys -- so Oct 29?
[04:39] <freemywrld> This is a brand new clean install
[04:39] <knoppies> freemywrld, if you using gnash for your flash player, then uninstall it.
[04:39] <sync350> kevdog, yessir
[04:39]  * kevdog I'm excited -- Thanks
[04:40] <freemywrld> hmm.. I don't think I'm using gnash but I can check
[04:40] <freemywrld> In about:plugins I show Shockwave Flash and FutureSplash Player
[04:41] <foosck> never heard of futuresplash player
[04:41] <freemywrld> Me neither
[04:41] <foosck> oh?
[04:41] <freemywrld> I didn't manually install it'
[04:41] <foosck> ah ok
[04:41] <freemywrld> maybe it came with the system or is part of Adobe's flash player for linux?
[04:41] <kevdog> Off topic a bit -- but I'm finding X-Chat not as sexy as Chatzilla for my IRC client
[04:41] <foosck> wow same here!
[04:42] <foosck> I have futuresplash player too
[04:42] <foosck> kevdog, then use pidgin
[04:42] <kevdog> foosck:  That is the least sexiest of all IMO
[04:42] <foosck> lol
[04:42] <freemywrld> I'm not sure if the freezing is random or not.  Crashed first on Pandora and then today it froze on Facebook
[04:42] <Random832> wine/mirc
[04:42] <foosck> then use something text-only irc program or something
[04:43] <knoppies> kevdock, I thought you could get chatzilla for ubuntu, cant you?
[04:43] <foosck> lol mirc is good but I'd need better video card
[04:43] <cfedde> chatzilla is a firefox plugin.  it does work with firefox on ubuntu
[04:43] <Random832> better video card for what?
[04:43] <cfedde> last time I checked.
[04:44] <kevdog> knoppies: You can -- but I guess I was offering my unsolicited opinion.  But what the hell do I know!
[04:44] <tsrk> How do I move a logical partition outside the extended partition (so it turns into a primary partition)?
[04:44] <Random832> ("need a better video card" for an irc program = does not compute)
[04:44] <freemywrld> lol
[04:44] <zuggyca> is there a way to force vino-server to start without logging in?
[04:45] <foosck> Random832, I need better video card for everything, I want to turn on compiz but I don't have a videocard lol
[04:45] <Random832> zuggyca, are you sure you need vino for what you're doing?
[04:45] <knoppies> zuggyca, I would also like to know, but Im more interested in getting tightvnc to work.
[04:45] <Random832> if you just need remote vnc login, you could just have gdm run an Xvnc
[04:45] <knoppies> foosck, you should try organise one then.
[04:46] <Random832> that just won't tie to the console
[04:46] <zuggyca> i need to remote desktop to my ubuntu desktop from windows without having to log in the ubuntu user
[04:46] <foosck> I am gonna to get one, but have ot figure out on drivers
[04:46] <losha> tsrk: I've never seen that done. As far as I know, the best you can do is create a primary and copy the contents from the logical partition, then delete the logical partition...
[04:46] <Random832> zuggyca, do you need it to be the same session as on the ubuntu's physical screen?
[04:46] <foosck> !supported hardware
[04:46] <Guest43263> i need some help with my sony vaio VGN-AR390E
[04:46] <zuggyca> Random832: no
[04:46] <tsrk> losha, alright, i'll do that, thanks
[04:46] <Random832> http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xvnc/
[04:47] <zuggyca> thanks
[04:47] <Random832> worth looking at anyway
[04:47] <knoppies> Random832, if I do want to be on the same session as ubuntu's physical screen, then how should I go about it? I was thinking tightvnc, but havnt managed to get it to work yet.
[04:47] <foosck> ubottu, well you are intelligent.
[04:48] <dandaman> question: how do i copy a  folder from a SSH onto a folder in my hard drive?
[04:48] <foo> SeaPhor / Ahadiel: alright, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda is working it's magic. thanks
[04:48] <Guest43263> where should i go for help when trying to install drivers for my sony vaio that are meant for vista?
[04:48] <foosck> ubottu, you are.
[04:48] <Random832> knoppies, i don't know - you could always just log in and start a vnc client locally when you want it on the physical screen
[04:48] <d9500> foosck: figure out drivers? that depends on what you're looking for. open source driver support "out of the box"? top performance?
[04:48] <foosck> out of the box
[04:48] <Random832> then you don't necessarily have the ability to do 3d/video stuff that's too intensive for vnc
[04:49] <foosck> no no I don't do vnc
[04:49] <knoppies> thanks Random832
[04:49] <sarthor> HI, my pppoe server says, pppoe: read (asyncReadFromPPP): Session 1: Input/output error , only one login is able to be login, each other ID gave this error, While the login/passwod are correct, HELP
[04:49] <knoppies> foosck, think that was directed at me
[04:49] <anarki2004> anyone here know anything about "Error 18" inside GRUB?
[04:49] <foosck> oh sorry
[04:49] <dandaman> how do i copy a  folder from a SSH onto a folder in my hard drive? whats the command? if its cp, i dont know how to do it :( also i'm inside the ssh
[04:50] <TomTom21> Hey guys i need help installing drivers for my laptop
[04:50] <kevdog> dandaman:  I use sftp which is much like an ftp session.
[04:50] <sync350> dandaman: is there an ftp service running?  As far as I know, there's not really a direct way to download files/folders through just ssh.
[04:50] <jahnkeanater> how do i get my rear speakers working
[04:50] <dandaman> ahh ok, ill install that then
[04:50] <losha> dandaman: can't you use scp ?
[04:50] <nrcain> Can I just dd regular Linux install ISOs to a USB drive and install from there?
[04:50] <dandaman> losha: don't know how, and i thought that copies from hard drive to ssh
[04:51] <dandaman> not the other way around
[04:51] <bastid_raZor> dandaman: scp .. be on the host machine and type scp folder/ user@destination:/folder/
[04:51] <kevdog> IMO scp is a poor mans sftp
[04:51] <SeaPhor> TomTom21, what drivers?
[04:51] <anarki2004> i just installed ubuntu alongside windows on the same HDD. Now grub can't boot properly and I can't boot the computer without going live
[04:51] <anarki2004> heh
[04:51] <knoppies> nrcain, I dont think you would be able to mount the ISO.
[04:51] <knoppies> nrcain, wait, nvm.
[04:51] <jahnkeanater> under volume control i dont have a suround mode
[04:51] <knoppies> nrcain, not sure.
[04:51] <TomTom21> for a sony vaio VGN-AR390E graphics card and camera
[04:52] <d9500> foosck: if you don't want to install any proprietary video card drivers, then intel has a history of providing open source drivers in linux (wait till karmic though to buy a motherboard w/ an intel card, there were some regressions in jaunty w/ intel drivers b/c they were reworking the architecture.) also, amd/ati has recently been improving their 2d/3d acceleration, by helping develop the open source "radeon" driver, but that one does not have 3d accel
[04:52] <d9500> eration for the r500-600 series of cards as of kernel 2.6.31. you would need to upgrade to 2.6.32, which is still an rc at this point
[04:52] <anarki2004> by live I mean using a live boot
[04:52] <SeaPhor> TomTom21, have you googled it?
[04:52] <jahnkeanater> does any one have 4 channel speakers on ubuntu
[04:52] <d9500> foosck: at least, I think that's correct. phoronix.com regularly provides updates on amd's card support. might want to check that site to be sure
[04:53] <SeaPhor> TomTom21, in a terminal type lshw -C video
[04:54] <TomTom21> yea but when i tried the new update 185 for my graphics card it would crash my GPU and i had to reinstall ubuntu. also i tried installing the camera but it failed saying i needed vista
[04:54] <X7> have no sound not sure why everything is pc speaker
[04:54] <bastid_raZor> SeaPhor: lshw should be run with sudo
[04:54] <anarki2004> 1300 people....one of you knows....
[04:55] <X7>
[04:55] <SeaPhor> bastid_raZor, yes- i agree....
[04:55] <TomTom21> SeaPhor, I did now what?
[04:56] <Lasthion> I have a question for someone im new to ubuntu and im trying to start the game gearhead but i cant find out where the exe file or what ever it is is at any help would be very nice
[04:56] <sarthor> HI, my pppoe server says, pppoe: read (asyncReadFromPPP): Session 1: Input/output error , only one login is able to be login, each other ID gave this error, While the login/passwod are correct, HELP
[04:56] <SeaPhor> TomTom21, how did it "crash my GPU" ?
[04:56] <Billiard> Lasthion: after you install it from the package manager, it should be in your programs manu under games or something similar
[04:57] <dandaman> how do i use scp to copy an entire directory?
[04:57] <Lasthion> i looked it not
[04:57] <dandaman> or...how can i copy a directory from an ssh into my local hd?
[04:57] <Lasthion> i tried alt f2-ing the name but nothing
[04:57] <Steil> dandaman: look into SFTP
[04:57] <Steil> or
[04:57] <bastid_raZor> scp -r
[04:57] <Steil> RTFM
[04:57] <Jeruvy> Lasthion: if you open a terminal, and type 'gearhead' does that work?
[04:58] <Lasthion> not sure yet
[04:58] <xenon_karmic> how to turn off desktop effects ? i turn them off and they again appear on rebooting.
[04:58] <TomTom21> SeaPhor, well it cam to a black screen can't exactly what it said something to extent of GPU cant process or something sorry I wasnt the one that installed the drivers my uncle did while i was at school
[04:58] <TomTom21> exactly remember*
[04:58] <Lasthion> ty sir it did
[04:59] <dandaman> ty
[04:59] <foosck> wow cool I like that gearhead
[04:59] <SeaPhor> TomTom21, so it was working ok before?
[04:59] <kevdog> dandaman: You can use sftp just like ssh:  sftp <user>@<host>
[04:59] <Harrison_Bergero> i would like to complain if thats ok?  I have ubuntu and windows on same LAN
[05:00] <TomTom21> SeaPhor, after I reinstalled ubuntu it did it wouldnt load...also i had to install in safe graphics mode
[05:00] <TomTom21> Seaphor, even before i tried installing the driver
[05:00] <Harrison_Bergero> when i do large file transfers from Ubuntu to windows XP i get connection timeout....BUT from XP to XP works beautifully....what gives?
[05:01] <sarthor> Harrison_Bergero, use Windows
[05:01] <Harrison_Bergero> right now im moving 40GB from laptop XP to XP in cellar....15minutes into the transfer and sill NO timeout
[05:01] <mzuverink> in sound juicer the variable bitrat is set at 6 which I believe if I understood my googleing 6 results in aprox quality of 13, now 0 would be 320 am I understanding this correctly
[05:01] <SeaPhor> TomTom21, wait,,,, you tried to install a driver,, not just the one from the Hardware-Restricted drivers?
[05:01] <Harrison_Bergero> i have files id like to move off Ubuntu as well....how to work around this problem?
[05:01] <mzuverink> *130
[05:02] <Harrison_Bergero> ugh...what just happened?
[05:02] <eyebee> Harrison_Bergero: using wi-fi on ubuntu?
[05:02] <rockstarrem> lol owned
[05:02] <Lasthion> ?
[05:02] <Jeruvy> !netsplit
[05:02] <Harrison_Bergero> eyebee...no its all cabled
[05:02] <Harrison_Bergero> ugh...again, what just happened?
[05:02] <coordinador> :O netsplit
[05:02] <Termana> That was a nice netsplit
[05:03] <Harrison_Bergero> eyebee_...no its all cabled
[05:03] <ganjanaut> quick question: why isn't there a package for python-2.6?
[05:03] <TomTom21> SeaPhor, dont think so the drivers i tried installing were not activated and still arent
[05:04] <dragon2777> so is there an easy simple way to change the ubuntu logo on the main menu
[05:04] <Harrison_Bergero> Let me ask a question in general.....do most of your file transfers from Ubuntu to windows timeout?  Is it a hard drive, datacable, CAT5 problem on my end or is this crossplatform issue?
[05:05] <dragon2777> i never had a timeout problem
[05:05] <eyebee_> Harrison_Bergero: I know there was a driver issue when transferring large files but thought it only affected wi-fi
[05:05] <IdleOne> no issues here either
[05:05] <TomTom21> Harrison_Bergero, why not use an external HDD?
[05:05] <eyebee_> Harrison_Bergero: I know there was a driver issue when transferring large files but thought it only affected wi-fi
[05:05] <max3> anyone know what the foreign language room here on irc.ubuntu.com is?????????????
[05:05] <IdleOne> max3: what language?
[05:05] <Kor> Hi, does someone know how to use -- magicrescue -- ?
[05:05] <max3> IdleOne: there was one i used to frequent where people spoke all sorts of languages
[05:06] <Harrison_Bergero> ok, since the majority do not have timeout issues transferring large files from ubuntu to windows i can only assume its a hardware issue on my LAN/PC
[05:06] <max3> IdleOne: something like #foreignlanguages
[05:06] <SeaPhor> TomTom21, ok, so you "tried" to install a downloaded driver?
[05:06] <dragon2777> it also might be a setting issue
[05:06] <IdleOne> max3: not sure, try that one or maybe check the channel list on freenode.net
[05:06] <dragon2777> or firewall
[05:06] <maco> max3: #linguistics or ##linguistics (i forget how man #) ...but its a little offtopic for this channel to ask that here
[05:06] <Harrison_Bergero> TomTom21....this is a one time deal.  After this no more file transfers.  Not worth buying an external drive.
[05:06] <ganjanaut> is it notoriously buggy?
[05:06] <ShapeShifter499> I installed itunes <IP_ADDRESS> via wine and I want to get rid of it for a version most known to work (version 7+ or 8  ) how do I do this??
[05:06] <almoxarife> yeah, #babel wasn't it?
[05:06] <max3> maco:  aha there we go
[05:07] <eyebee_> Harrison_Bergero: there was an issue with hanging when transferring large files/heavy traffic
[05:07] <eyebee_> on some systems
[05:07] <Jeruvy>  Harrison_Bergero: check out launchpad.net for any bug reports, then see if it's hardware related.  There have been some bugs that may shed some light on it.
[05:07] <Harrison_Bergero> eyebee....can zou point me in the right direction?
[05:07] <foosck> aha
[05:07] <foosck> I'll go ot launchpad.net
[05:07] <Harrison_Bergero> Jeruvy...thanks
[05:08] <TomTom21> SeaPhor, correct it downloaded then i tried to install but it didn't work after I reset it worked when i was still running it but anything that had to do with my driver didnt work such as Halo:CE
[05:08] <eyebee_> Harrison_Bergero: checkout http://ubuntu.com in the community - don't have exact url here on netbook right now
[05:08] <mzuverink> prior to the mass dis/reconnect I asked 0 has better VBR parameters, sound suicer is set at 6, which google tells me it is around 120-130, I'd like higher quality like 256 VBR would changing make the adjustment, am I understanding this correctly
[05:08] <ctmjr> ShapeShifter499: wine should have an uninstall for it
[05:08] <dragon2777> has dual monitor support gotten any better in 9.04 i want to install it on my desktop but the previous versions were iffy i have dual 23" monitors and a nvidea 9600
[05:08] <ShapeShifter499> ctmjr: didn't work
[05:08] <boojit> dragon2777: works much better for me than in past incarnations
[05:09] <dragon2777> so it is worth it to try and instlall i assume the live disk will let me see if it works
[05:09] <Harrison_Bergero> hmm, mostly DC++ connection timeout and wireless issues.
[05:09] <ganjanaut> i guess no one knows... i can't figure out why.  2.6 seems pretty stable
[05:09] <ShapeShifter499> ctmjr: at the end of the itunes un-installer it said it was installed not un-installed
[05:09] <ganjanaut> only bugfixes are being added
[05:09] <boojit> dragon2777: well you'll have to get the nvidia binary driver installed
[05:10] <boojit> dragon2777: and that requires a reboot, so it takes a tiny bit of doing with the live cd, but yeah.
[05:10] <SeaPhor> TomTom21, hrm, i've never had that problem unless i tried some other driver first or envy,,,
[05:10] <Harrison_Bergero> hey....how can i tell if samba is already installed?
[05:10] <dragon2777> boojit: that should show up in restricted drivers right
[05:10] <domo> Harrison_Bergero: sudo apt-get install samba
[05:10] <boojit> dragon2777: yepp
[05:10] <LuisMatos> Hi there, im new to ubuntu and trying to use the add/remove applications. it came up with an error that says "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report." Could somebody help me??
[05:10] <Harrison_Bergero> from the standard installation i was able to go to the network tab and find the windows machine
[05:11] <dragon2777> hmm i tihink i will give it a try thanks
[05:11] <ctmjr> ShapeShifter499: look in ~/.wine and delete it (not .wine but itunes)
[05:11] <TomTom21> SeaPhor, werid...though my computer used to have vista on it before it crashed...this is a hand me down one of those you can fix it you can have it
[05:12] <Th_Doctor> LuisMatos: type that in the terminal and hit enter.
[05:12] <ShapeShifter499> ctmjr: what files/folders?  there are folders everywhere named itunes in the wine folder
[05:12] <lootless> test
[05:13] <LuisMatos> th_doctor: type "dpkg --configure -a" ?
[05:13] <Th_Doctor> LuisMatos: Yes. Or just copy and paste and hit enter.
[05:13] <Th_Doctor> LuisMatos: You might need to start it with sudo
[05:14] <Th_Doctor> LuisMatos: begin with sudo
[05:14] <SeaPhor> well TomTom21 if you really want to make a project of it,,, join my channel cause alot will be off-topic here, and i'm sure we can help there\
[05:14] <ctmjr> ShapeShifter499: weel if it was mine i would delete every file and dir that is named itunes in .wine
[05:15] <leo_> I want to install kernel-source-2.6.8, but it says it has no installation candidate. Please help.
[05:15] <Th_Doctor> ShapeShifter499: Why do you want Itunes. Can't you use gtkpod?
[05:15] <TomTom21> SeaPhor, im new to ubuntu as well how do i join?
[05:15] <ShapeShifter499> ctmjr: ok.... after that what about any registry entries?
[05:16] <Sirisian> If I have like 7 kernels. Can I just go into /boot and remove the ones I don't need then just run update-grub to refresh menu.lst. Is there anything else I should be aware of?
[05:16] <Harrison_Bergero> ok tech question.  When i do a file transfer across the cabled LAN is the following taking place:  "which makes use of https and apt-transport-https"
[05:16] <maco> Sirisian: uninstall them
[05:16] <ShapeShifter499> Th_Doctor: Its because I can.....
[05:17] <Sirisian> maco, using the package manager interface?
[05:17] <maco> Sirisian: yep
[05:17] <ShapeShifter499> Th_Doctor: and its also the challenge of trying to get windows apps/games I use to run, running again with wine
[05:17] <Sirisian> maco, so remove the headers along with the image. That's the normal method?
[05:18] <maco> Sirisian: yeah
[05:18] <Sirisian> thank you
[05:18] <zuggyca> Random832: thanks for article about xvnc server, I think I'll buy a kvm instead :P
[05:19] <zuggyca> i'll break my system otherwise
[05:19] <Sirisian> maco, would I mark them for removal or complete removal?
[05:19] <maco> Sirisian: i usually just go with removal
[05:19] <maco> Sirisian: i dont think they put any config files anywhere thatd require purging... (command line term is "purge" synaptic term is "complete removal" ...means it removes configuration files too)
[05:20] <ctmjr> ShapeShifter499: i do not no to much about wine if it will over write the registry entries when you install the ver of itunes you want i would get rid of them just to be sure
[05:20] <LuisMatos> Th_Doctor: ok i just did, now it says "Setting up java-common (0.28ubuntu3) ..."
[05:22] <Th_Doctor> LuisMatos: Let it run and if necessary answer yes when asked.
[05:22] <ShapeShifter499> ctmjr: I can just redo my wine dir.
[05:22] <kevdog> zuggyca: Do you really need vnc or could you just tunnel an x session?
[05:22] <Th_Doctor> ShapeShifter499: Which version of Itunes were you trying to set up. I think the latest that worked was 7.7.
[05:22] <sarthor> HI, my pppoe server says, pppoe: read (asyncReadFromPPP): Session 1: Input/output error , only one login is able to be login, each other ID gave this error, While the login/passwod are correct, HELP
[05:23] <domo> hey im using 9.10.. testing it out.. samba is broken? when copying files over to a share (fresh install of ubuntu server...) it fails with too many files are currently in use
[05:23] <Th_Doctor> ShapeShifter499: I know 8 will let you sync with the Iphone but I don't think it will run on 9.04.
[05:23] <domo> the same copy works on 9.04
[05:23] <boojit> kevdog: if you try that over anything slower than a lan connection performance is really abysmal, at least in my experience
[05:23] <domo> so its def. 9.10
[05:23] <Harrison_Bergero> WOW...found exactly my problem:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/372685
[05:23] <ShapeShifter499> Th_Doctor: I was going with the newest itunes 9+ but its a bust so I want something like 7 or above
[05:24] <Harrison_Bergero> can someone have a look and give me a suggestion as to how to proceed?
[05:24] <kevdog> boojit: FreeNX server is one alternative -- but you tell me you have found running rxvt remotely is slow?
[05:24] <Th_Doctor> ShapeShifter499: The last one I know that worked was 7.7, but I don't think you can find it anymore.
[05:24] <raven> hi - GPODDER gives me "sqlite3.OperationalError: unable to open database file" - can i repair that?
[05:24] <bazhang> domo, karmic support in #ubuntu+1
[05:24] <domo> sigh
[05:24] <domo> iight
[05:24] <ShapeShifter499> Th_Doctor: will 8.0 work?
[05:24] <Harrison_Bergero> whats funny about the reported bug, i was going to do the same thing, swap patch cable and router first
[05:25] <Harrison_Bergero> i guess logic is the universal language
[05:25] <Th_Doctor> ShapeShifter499: I was just on the forums and it seems it won't.
[05:25] <Harrison_Bergero> saved me some time
[05:25] <ShapeShifter499> Th_Doctor: If I use it I will only need it for my ipod nano 2nd gen
[05:26] <ShapeShifter499> Th_Doctor: oh and my ipod shuffle
[05:26] <Th_Doctor> ShapeShifter499: The search I used had several links and they said you couldn't install beyond 7.7.
[05:26] <Harrison_Bergero> ok, other than fixing a problem i cant really find where to begin.  Let me try another solution.  Other than copy/paste from Ubuntu to windows across the LAN, what are my alternatives to do a file transfer?
[05:27] <boojit> kevdog: i'm just saying that tunnelling X11 over ssh is damn slow in my experience unless you're on a LAN, that's all.
[05:27] <Th_Doctor> Harrison_Bergero: How about a USB drive.
[05:27] <Harrison_Bergero> external HD was already suggested
[05:27] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: ssh(via sftp), ftp
[05:27] <Harrison_Bergero> ftp!  forgot about that, thanks
[05:27] <ShapeShifter499> Th_Doctor: I'll take a crack at it, brb
[05:27] <Th_Doctor> Harrison_Bergero: External Hard Drive is much more expensive than USB stick.
[05:28] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Well then sftp (which is really ssh then)
[05:28] <Th_Doctor> ShapeShifter499: Good luck. If you get it to work, post it in the forums.
[05:28] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog, what windows program would i need?
[05:28] <Harrison_Bergero> generic ftp server?
[05:29] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: also look at rsync over ssh tunnel -- that's how I move files around
[05:29] <Jeruvy> Harrison_Bergero: can you confirm the problem in the bug?  If it only happens going from linux -> windows?  If so I'd look at the windows event viewer for any messages.
[05:29] <ShapeShifter499> Th_Doctor: I know, I did a test on itunes 8.1, look for a person with the name lance, thats me
[05:29] <Th_Doctor> Harrison_Bergero: What are you trying to transfer?   You can get fancy with ssh keys and such, or just use passwords if you want
[05:29] <ShapeShifter499> Th_Doctor: look in the appdb for wine
[05:29] <Harrison_Bergero> Th_doctor....40GB altogether
[05:29] <Th_Doctor> ShapeShifter499: OK.
[05:30] <emanux> how to shred recursively?
[05:30] <emanux> i have this command but it seems it is not working
[05:30] <raven> hi - GPODDER gives me "sqlite3.OperationalError: unable to open database file" - can i repair that?
[05:30] <infid> seaphor /etc/hosts.allow says sshd: ALL  but it also says other things like 'ALL : PARANOID : DENY'
[05:30] <Harrison_Bergero> let me do my homework on this, bbl
[05:30] <emanux> find -type f -execdir shred -v -n 10 -z -u '{}' \;
[05:30] <Th_Doctor> Harrison_Bergero: Well eventually you need to do a backup, so maybe now is the time for an extenal hard drive.
[05:30] <emanux>  error writing at offset 0: Operation not supported
[05:31] <LuisMatos> Th_Doctor. thank you for your help
[05:31] <Th_Doctor> LuisMatos: NP
[05:31] <ShapeShifter499> Th_Doctor: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17774&iTestingId=44529 was my test for itunes
[05:31] <Th_Doctor> ShapeShifter499: Thanks.
[05:32] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Once you get the openssh-server installed (sudo aptitude install openssh-server), you can do rsync/unison for backups if you really want to get fancy (which really aren't that fancy)
[05:32] <SerbThug> heya all. Anyone using vmware?
[05:32] <boojit> SerbThug: yeah
[05:33] <SerbThug> boojit: since when it's not free?
[05:33] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog in synaptic package manager is ssh-krb5 the server im looking for?
[05:33] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: You need to transfer 40 GB?
[05:33] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...it a one time deal
[05:33] <boojit> SerbThug: since i've been using it which has been a damn long time. You talking vmware workstation?
[05:33] <Tehedra> how do i check what modules i have installed via ssh?
[05:33] <SerbThug> vmware server
[05:34] <boojit> SerbThug: I don't ever recall it being free.
[05:34] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...im just a bit disappointed that connection timeout issue...seems a glaring one to me
[05:34] <bastid_raZor> Tehedra: lsmod
[05:34] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Its openssh-server -- and 40GB?  Are they a bunch of different files -- a dropped network connection could be an issue
[05:34] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...i like ubuntu now that ive gotten my feet wet
[05:34] <boojit> SerbThug: sure you're not thinking of something like Xen?
[05:35] <bastid_raZor> Tehedra: lsmod | more   ..is probably easier to see it all and press enter to continue
[05:35] <boojit> (if you're looking for free, that is)
[05:35] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...see thats the thing....my laptop with XP has been transferring this whole time....25minutes and still going
[05:35] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: 40GB is a lot to transfer over any network --
[05:35] <SerbThug> boojit: I wanted vmware 'cause I read somewhere that it's possible to boot existing win install in linux
[05:35] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog....let me back up a second...even when i do a smaller file, say 700mb, it will sometimes,  not all the time give a "connection timeout"
[05:35] <SerbThug> in VM
[05:35] <Th_Doctor> Harrison_Bergero: Harrison_Bergero Carbonite is free for 30 days. You could backup there and then download to the other computer.
[05:35] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: I hope you do error checking on that transferred material -- md5 or sha1 or something.  A lot of potential for errors
[05:36] <kevdog> Carbonite doesn't support linux
[05:36] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog....error checking across a wired LAN?
[05:36] <Th_Doctor> kevdog: Bummer.
[05:36] <Tehedra> mmm im trying to figure out what version of php i installed, i swore i installed php 5.3
[05:36] <Tehedra> but for some reason phpinfo is showing that i installed 5.2
[05:36] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...the longest CAT5 is 10m long.
[05:36] <Jeruvy> kevdog: UbuntuOne does :)
[05:36] <Th_Doctor> kevdog: Doesn't Ubuntu have a free online backup?
[05:37] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: yes -- what are you using -- samba?
[05:37] <Harrison_Bergero> i could understand it if i was going 100m across lots of EM interference...but this is straight through the floor and into the cellar
[05:37] <kevdog> Th_Doctor: free online backup of 40Gb?
[05:37] <Whitor> cat5 can go a lot further than 10m
[05:37] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: A bunch of small files?
[05:38] <raven> hi - GPODDER gives me "sqlite3.OperationalError: unable to open database file" - can i repair that?
[05:38] <Th_Doctor> kevdog: Just a question, I still think his best solution would be an external hard drive. Eventually he should need a backup anyway.
[05:38] <Harrison_Bergero> Whitor...the question was about error correction...i thought a 10m run was short enough not to warrant hashing
[05:38] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog....no 700mb or larger files
[05:38] <surgy> in gimp i have copied and pasted a green image on top of my image..... now it wont let me paint in anything else but shades and hues of green! how do i fix this?
[05:38] <Whitor> jeez I trust it for a few hundred feet at least
[05:38] <SerbThug> boojit: you aware of any other workaround?
[05:39] <surgy> cat5e is goto for 600m right?
[05:39] <Th_Doctor> surgy: Double click the color icon and choose.
[05:39] <Whitor> nope cat5e is still 100m
[05:39] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: If its a one time thing -- wants wrong with ftp?  No encryption payload -- so really fast -- ssh is great -- however the embedded encryption is what slows it down -- with ftp no encryption so much faster!!!
[05:39] <surgy> Th_Doctor, i did that it just chanegs the hue or shade of green instead of the entire color, no matetr what color is in the box
[05:39] <Whitor> same w/ 6 ... just higher frequency tolerant
[05:39] <Jeruvy> surgy: is your picture still showing RGB, or did it change to index?
[05:40] <surgy> Jeruvy, how do i tell?
[05:40] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: You need a lightweight free windows ftp server?
[05:40] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...yes
[05:40] <boojit> SerbThug: i've never tried to do what you're doing but I would suspect it's going to be a bit difficult. It depends if you plan on running your windows install natively again after you get it running as a guest OS under VMWare.
[05:40] <Th_Doctor> surgy: What if you make a new layer?
[05:40] <zuggyca> kevdog: i need a quality session, the standard remote desktop with vnc is useless
[05:40] <boojit> SerbThug: because your windows install will require all the drivers for the virtualized hardware rather than the hardware of your actual machine.
[05:41] <SerbThug> boojit: nope, I only need windows once or twice in a month, so I won't use it natively
[05:41] <surgy> Th_Doctor, doesnt seam to do anything, same green problem
[05:41] <kevdog> zuggyca: FreeNX
[05:41] <Jeruvy> surgy: select - mode.  that should tell you whats selected
[05:41] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Give me a second -- I know a great one but I forget the name of it -- but it rocks and is very good for simple stuff -- I need to find it!!!
[05:41] <boojit> SerbThug: but I don't want to say more because I've never done it. My experience with vmware is mostly running vmware workstation, both on windows hosts and linux hosts.
[05:41] <SerbThug> boojit: actually, I need it only for IE7 and IE8 (Web testing)
[05:42] <SerbThug> ie4linux does not wfm
[05:42] <surgy> its indexed
[05:42] <boojit> SerbThug: yeah, i hear you. Well VMWare workstation will do what you want for that but if i were doing it i would start with a clean install rather than try to get my old install of XP working with it.
[05:42] <zuggyca> kevdog: thanks i'll check it out in the morning
[05:42] <Jeruvy> surgy: change it to rgb
[05:42] <surgy> awesome
[05:42] <surgy> thnx
[05:43] <chsaedawg1> Is there a way to repair a mouse driver?
[05:45] <Harrison_Bergero> ok, openssh-server installed.  what now?
[05:45] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Cerberus FTP server -- its great -- it must have turned shareware recently b/c I've been using it for years when it was free -- there is a 30 day free trial -- too bad its not free
[05:46] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero:  OK -- now for the windows client -- download winscp -- its free: http://winscp.net/eng/index.php
[05:47]  * kevdog thinks to myself -- Damn cerberus ftp server software -- pain in my ass!!!!
[05:51] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog....right with you...let me remote into the windows machine
[05:51] <zeus> How can I install multiple applications at the same time using Ubuntu Software Center?
[05:52] <knoppies> zeus, do you mean synaptic package manager?
[05:52] <elgrantenedor> ubuntu es ?
[05:52] <elgrantenedor> hola
[05:52] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...booting
[05:52] <knoppies> hi
[05:53] <elgrantenedor> hola soy de argentina hablo castellano
[05:53] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Booting what?
[05:53] <knoppies> zeus?
[05:54] <zeus> No, I mean how can I have the same features that were in Add/Remove, but in Software Center?
[05:54] <zeus> Such as sorting programs by their star rating.
[05:54] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...just had to login into the windows machine, downloading ftp program now
[05:54] <knoppies> zeus, not sure.
[05:55] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: What are you trying to do?
[05:56] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...im downloading a copy of winscp 4.1.9
[05:56] <zeus> Is there a way to install Add/Remove, replacing the new Software Center?
[05:57] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Its ssh (sftp) and not ftp -- big difference
[05:58] <Tehedra> magic_quotes_gpc, how can i make sure this is disabled in php?
[05:58] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog, yes the selected default protocol is sftp
[05:58] <Tehedra> im assuming its in an ini file somewhere
[05:59] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: This is all being done on a LAN behind a router?
[05:59] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog....yes
[05:59] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Ok good -- you don't have to worry about securing the system technically -- i'd just use username and passwords then
[06:00] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Or changing the port number for example
[06:01] <kevdog> Is the new service command up and running in karmic?  For example sudo service ssh start  ???
[06:01] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog....ok installed
[06:02] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog....both winscp and openssh-server
[06:02] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero:  Ok -- so start winscp and see if you can log into your ubuntu box
[06:03] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog....this may sound like windowspeak...but where in ubuntu do i find my computername?
[06:03] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: The interface is a little bit clumsy for just the login screen b/c it uses putty as a frontend for authentication -- the rest of the program is simple to use
[06:03] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Just use your LAN IP address for the server -- 192.168.x.x  Whatever it is
[06:04] <knoppies> Harrison_Bergero, You can use netscan on your windows PC to find the IP of your ubuntu box
[06:05] <knoppies> so if it changes with DHCP you dont have to keep going to check on it.
[06:05] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...im in
[06:05] <isola73dsh33p> hello guys
[06:05] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Its dual pane correct?
[06:06] <edulacomadreja> i know that this question belongs to #linux-ha or some server admins channel but... i need help with heartbeat
[06:06] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...yes
[06:06] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog....but the files i want to transfer are on another partition not listed
[06:06] <edulacomadreja> heartbeat anyone?
[06:07] <kevdog> HB: partition on what computer?
[06:07] <knoppies> edulacomadreja, never heared of it, but have you searched the forums?
[06:07] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Partition on what computer?
[06:07] <edulacomadreja> knoppies: yes, i'm using it already, it's just some silly issue
[06:08] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...ubuntu
[06:08] <knoppies> edulacomadreja, I meant, have you checked the ubuntu forums for what you were gonna ask here. but if you have then nvm. Sorry i can't help.
[06:08] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Can't you just change to the partition -- or have you mounted the partition on the ubuntu box and set it up with a directory structure
[06:08] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...where in the right column of winscp showing the ubuntu directories would the partition be found?  root?
[06:09] <dukz> I'm back... been with this for 2 hours now. Need help on this build dependency error... http://pastebin.ca/1644752
[06:09] <isola73dsh33p> guys, how to solve my headphone jack problem?
[06:09] <dukz> I did not get this on my two previous machines, but am having one now. Please help.
[06:09] <edulacomadreja> knoppies: thanks man, the right channel for this is #linux-ha but there is no body
[06:09] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...mounted with tab on desktop....ah gotcha
[06:09] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: I have no idea how you set up your partitions or hard drives?
[06:09] <isola73dsh33p> ...
[06:10] <isola73dsh33p> guys, how to solve headphone jack problem in ubuntu?
[06:10] <kevdog> no idea
[06:10] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, What problem?
[06:10] <Harrison_Bergero> ok...i mounted after winscp connected...let me reconnect to see if it will show then
[06:10] <ravenger> how can i install nokia pcsuite in ubuntu
[06:10] <xeer> Fresh install of Karmic with some productivity add-ons and the most recent update. After the required restart I can no longer get to the desktop.
[06:10] <xeer> On startup I get thrown to a busybox shell
[06:11] <isola73dsh33p> my headphone won't work
[06:11] <kevdog> xeer: bad news -- busybox or just a shell
[06:11] <knoppies> isola73dsh33p, nvm. I gtg. sorry,
[06:11] <kevdog> xeer: sudo gdm start perhaps
[06:11] <isola73dsh33p> owh, its ok
[06:11] <xeer> kevdog:  it's busybox.
[06:11] <isola73dsh33p> so, anyone knows how?
[06:11] <ravenger> plz some one help me
[06:11] <Termana> kevdog - don't you mean "sudo service gdm start", anyway?
[06:11] <ravenger> how can i install nokia pcsuite in ubuntu
[06:11] <xeer> I can access the file system from a livecd
[06:12] <kevdog> Termana: gdm isn't a service is it?  Last time I checked it just started gnome
[06:12] <xeer> Termana, kevdog: busybox doesn't have the service program, it just has basic functionality
[06:12] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...um, the icon to access the partition is on the desktop, BUT it doesnt show up in winscp
[06:13] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...somehow im doing this backwards...im using VNC to get into the windows machine remotely to use winscp to get back into ubuntu
[06:13] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero:  You haven't told me anything -- it sounds like the partition isn't mounted or if it is you don't know where its mounted at.
[06:13] <Termana> kevdog - Its how I start up gnome, sudo service gdm start.
[06:13] <Termana> xeer - Have you tried going to a virtual terminal?
[06:13] <kevdog> Termana: Hmm things have changed h
[06:14] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Why?  Just go to the windows box
[06:14] <Termana> xeer: Like pressing Ctrl + alt + F1
[06:14] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Or I guess you could install the openssh server on the windows machine -- however this would entail a cygwin (or similar type program) installation
[06:14] <xeer> Termana:  I don't think you follow. The new ubuntu logo (two tone white on black) disappears real quick and then I get a blank screen. When I press a key I'm at a busybox shell.
[06:14] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...found it..../media/disk
[06:15] <isola73dsh33p> guys, how to check my sound card's name?
[06:15] <xeer> The only terminal that works is the first one
[06:15] <xeer> the rest just have the flashing underscore
[06:15] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: Cool -- Now drag and drop from within the interface
[06:15] <Termana> xeer - what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[06:15] <xeer> 9.10
[06:16] <kevdog> xeer: From within the grub menu -- can you just choose to boot to a terminal shell and not start x?
[06:16] <Termana> xeer - try this
[06:16] <xeer> This is what was dumped to my screen.. mount: mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/... on /root failed: Invalid argument
[06:16] <xeer> mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: Invalid argument, etc. etc..
[06:16] <Termana> xeer: Boot a live cd, mount your / at for example /media/root, then do
[06:17] <Termana> sudo chroot /media/root
[06:17] <Termana> sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[06:17] <xeer> then, Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init.
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> isola73dsh33p, you can try "lspci | grep -i audio" in a terminal - hope it helps
[06:17] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero:  Progress update b/c I'm about to hit the sack!!!!
[06:18] <Termana> xeer - try what I said, and do the two commands
[06:18]  * kevdog is getting sleepy
[06:19] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...copying....but geeze...3 hrs for 14gb?
[06:19] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...why did my XP laptop copy 40gb in 30 minuts?
[06:20] <Termana> xeer - you probably did an upgrade install of Karmic correct?
[06:20] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: You're doing an encrypted file transfer -- that's the problem -- you have a lot of overhead for the encryption process.  Simple ftp would have been easier since no encryption is used for speed reasons
[06:20] <ravenger> is there some one who can solve my problem
[06:20] <kevdog> ravenger: What are you talking about
[06:20] <Whitt> ravenger, its possible, you'd have to tell us your problems
[06:20] <ravenger> i wan to install nokia pc suite in ubuntu
[06:20] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...ah..im going to break it off and select ftp as protocl
[06:20] <Harrison_Bergero> thanks
[06:20] <Termana> !patience | ravenger
[06:21] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero:  Yea -- but you don't have an ftp server installed :)
[06:21] <ravenger> ubottu: thank you
[06:21] <kevdog> !ftp
[06:21] <Whitt> ravenger, have a look at Wammu, it is suppose to do the same thing, doesn't support my phone unfortuantly
[06:21] <kevdog> !FTPd
[06:22] <kevdog> Anyone on easiest ftp daemon to setup?
[06:22] <ravenger> ubottu: i had tried that also but there r some error messages
[06:22] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...openssh-server...doesnt that also have an option between sftp and ftp?
[06:22] <kevdog> Freakin' body!!!!
[06:23] <kevdog> Freakin -- bott!!!
[06:23] <ravenger> ubottu: SORRY i am saying only a gui error not a code error
[06:23] <soreau> ravenger: You basically have two or three options for linux: 1) Install the target OS in a VM then install the program you want in that environment 2) Find a native linux alternative program 3) If it is a windows program, you might be able to get it working in wine
[06:23] <kevdog> Harrison_Bergero: winscp acts as an ftp and sftp client -- but you only have an ssh server installed
[06:23] <boojit> man, i stay about as far away from FTP as i possibly can. kevdog, Harrison_Bergero: I know you've already gone over this, but why aren't you just using SAMBA if on a lan and trying to easily move files from a win box to a linux box?
[06:24] <boojit> not to rehash old hash, but that seems like the obvious solution and it's so easy to set up -- integrated into gnome and all.
[06:24] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...other way around....im moving files from linux to windows and keep getting  a connection timeout
[06:24] <boojit> using samba?
[06:24] <michal__> keep gettin 'Error opening directory '/usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors'..whenever i try to mount a usb drive..was fine yesterday
[06:25] <ravenger> soreau: i had used the wine but its cannot install the pc suite it seems
[06:25] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...no just network tab copy/paste
[06:25] <kevdog> bonjit: I'm passing this one off to you -- I can see gettting this far was hard enough -- getting samba to work would be great and all -- but that is a much more difficult thing to get up and running IMO
[06:26] <Harrison_Bergero> brb
[06:26] <boojit> ok so -- you can browse to a windows network share from ubuntu w/o installing anything or anything
[06:27] <boojit> then just authenticate and move files to/fro in either direction.
[06:27] <boojit> but i'm guessing you are trying that and not having luck or something?
[06:27] <kevdog> boojit: Good luck and thanks!!! :0
[06:28] <kevdog> Usually with samba webmin is a very good friend of mine :)
[06:28] <Harrison_Bergero> kevdog...thanks again
[06:28] <boojit> so Harrison_Bergero...did what I say make sense?
[06:29] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...yeah, i can see the windows machine and sometimes copy a file without problems
[06:29] <MrPiracy> i am having problems with my NVIDIA drivers ... somehow i installed it and i had to add it to /etc/rc.local (chmod 666 /dev/nvidia*). isn't there a way to make it permanent without the use in this file?
[06:29] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...most of the time i get a "connection timeout" error
[06:29] <Termana> MrPiracy theres your problem right there
[06:30] <Termana> MrPiracy: You set it to 666 - nothings bound to work with those numbers :P j/k
[06:30] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....on the same LAN with another pc with windows copy-paste to target windows machine goes flawlessly
[06:30] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: have you tried doing the same thing but with a windows boot, just to make sure that your network connectivity isn't the issue?
[06:30] <boojit> ok
[06:30] <MrPiracy> Termana: it acctually works, but some random times i will have to reboot because this file wasn't read/processed
[06:30] <michal__> 'volume(ext4) listed in /etc/fstab is refusing to mount' ???
[06:31] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...the only thing i havent tried is swapping the CAT5 cable on the ubuntu machine
[06:31] <boojit> well what i would do is set up a ping going to the windows box, then start trying to repro the issue. See if you start getting RTOs when the connection times out
[06:31] <boojit> if you do, the problem is probably network related.
[06:31] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...ok, ping from terminal?
[06:32] <boojit> yeah so bring up term, ping the ip of the windows box. Then open up the windows network share, start the file copy, try to repro the issue, and then pay attention to what the ping window is doing during all of this.
[06:32] <coordinador> somebody knows
[06:32] <coordinador> aweonaOS ?
[06:33] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: in my experience, copying stuff from a Windows network share to/fro an ubuntu machine works absolutely flawlessly. And it has forever.
[06:33] <bRUC> hi all
[06:33] <MrPiracy> so, is there a way to make this command  (chmod 666 /dev/nvidia*) good for all sessions not just the current one?
[06:34] <Billiard> MrPiracy: yes you can create a udev rule
[06:34] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit..wow, that timedout immediately
[06:34] <MrPiracy> Billiard: any directions on how to do it?
[06:34] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit..so its a network issue?
[06:34] <boojit> so your ping is not returning at all, or is it spotty?
[06:34] <Billiard> MrPiracy: i can help you in pm
[06:34] <boojit> well it might be that you have windows firewall on and you are firewalling IMCP packets
[06:35] <cdoublejj> thats weird xubuntu install won't let my type anything in the login info creation boxes
[06:35] <boojit> which is the default, IIRC
[06:35] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit..didnt even get that far.  Just attempted to copy a file across the network and got the "connection timeout" error
[06:35] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: so did you start the ping?
[06:35] <boojit> and if so what did it do?
[06:36] <teolicy> Hi. A week or so ago I downloaded 9.10's beta iso. I'm leaving today for a long trip, and want to prepare a bootable USB stick with the latest 9.10 (I know release is in 2 days, but my flight is in 12 hours...). Is the iso being regularly updated? Should I bother re-downloading it?
[06:36] <jitender> hello dear all
[06:36] <OmniCitadel> Ok when I am watching hulu (via linux hulu desktop) it plays just fine in window mode and full screen mode up until I have been watching a full 15 minute segment then when in full screen mode it freezes, however if it is a 10 minute segment or 5 minute segment it is just fine... I am thinking it is a client issue but just wanted to ping you all and see if this smells the same as something you have heard about before
[06:36] <Flannel> teolicy: The RC is a few days old
[06:36] <jitender> any bady know cron backup command
[06:36] <Whitt> OmniCitadel, is your screensaver trying to come on then?
[06:36] <OmniCitadel> I should clairify that it is when it goes to a commercial break that causes it
[06:37] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit..ping is fine
[06:37] <OmniCitadel> whitt: no its directly at the commercial break
[06:37] <jitender> command for backup through cron
[06:37] <teolicy> Flannel: Aye, cheers.
[06:37] <boojit> ok so you have the ping cooking while you attempt to access the windows network folder from ubuntu, correct?
[06:37] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit..ping flucutated a bit but then level off
[06:37] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...yes
[06:37] <boojit> can you pastebin the output please
[06:37] <Termana> OmniCitadel: Smells like burnt toast
[06:38] <jitender> any body will help me
[06:38] <OmniCitadel> Termana: i do not understand the reference
[06:38] <jitender> cron backup command
[06:38] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....http://pastebin.com/d26e25d9c
[06:39] <Termana> OmniCitadel: No reference. You just asked if it smells like anything we've smelt before.
[06:39] <boojit> jitender: we can't help people that don't make any sense. You have just asked for a "cron backup command" -- you may as well asked for "a computer program of some sort"
[06:39] <kermit> does anyone's touchpad not work as well when the humidity is low?
[06:39] <kermit> i think its because my skin is dry
[06:39] <dryg> dry?
[06:40] <jitender> ok
[06:40] <Harrison_Bergero> kermit...i have that problem sometimes....yeah dry skin
[06:40] <jitender> tell me that is possible
[06:41] <boojit> ok so what happens when you just open up a file folder window and put something like smb://the.winbox.ipaddy/C$ in the location bar
[06:41] <coordinador> Termana, do you know the operating system named aweonaOS?
[06:41] <boojit> (that was for Harrison_Bergero by the way)
[06:42] <jitender> Boojit,help for schedule backup of ubuntu system throug crontab
[06:42] <Termana> coordinador: Not really, why?
[06:43] <Andorin> Hoo boy... I must have made an edit to my xorg.conf that I wasn't supposed to, because now when I boot Ubuntu, the screen goes black right before the login screen and doesn't respond to anything. Help?
[06:43] <coordinador> Termana, just asking, thanks
[06:43] <boojit> jitender: what do you want help with? using cron? backing up your machine to tape? To a USB drive? to another computer on the network?
[06:43] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....it just goes to that location on the windows box
[06:44] <jitender> to another computer
[06:44] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: ok so that works. And you can traverse the windows directory tree
[06:44] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....y
[06:44] <jitender> and in my own computer
[06:44] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: ok so that is good. So but as soon as you start transferring a file from the win box to the linux box, you get connection timed out?
[06:45] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...other way.  From linux to windows
[06:45] <Andorin> Can I just boot from a live CD and fix my xorg.conf?
[06:45] <boojit> ok so it works in one direction but not the other?
[06:45] <Harrison_Bergero> well, i havent tried sending from windows to linux
[06:45] <domo> how do i install a specific version of a package?
[06:45] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: try that. Send something 10MB or more
[06:45] <Harrison_Bergero> let me remote VNC into windows and try it
[06:46] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero:
[06:46] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: no need to do that
[06:46] <michal__> i cant mount my usb drive...........'volume(ext4) listed in /etc/fstab is refusing to mount'
[06:46] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: just stay on the ubuntu box, go to a windows folder and copy a file from the win box to the linux box
[06:46] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit..k
[06:47] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: it still smells like network connectivity to me.
[06:47] <Andorin> Can I fix my xorg.conf by booting from a live CD?
[06:47] <jitender> Boojit
[06:47] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...copying
[06:48] <boojit> jitender: do you already have a backup command and just need to know how to automate it with cron? or do you know how to use cron and just need help with a backup solution? or both?
[06:48] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...albeit a bit slower....8.2MB/s instead of 9.5
[06:48] <jitender> both i need
[06:48] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...done.  700mb copied without incident from windows to linux
[06:49] <mb_again_> !xorg
[06:49] <boojit> jitender: ok you need to start with man cron. Start playing around with getting cron to work. Next, check out man rsync and then look here (one second i will find the link)
[06:49] <boojit> ok Harrison_Bergero: before we go any further, replace your network cable on your ubuntu box AND plug into a different port on your switch
[06:49] <boojit> and see if that fixes it
[06:49] <boojit> i have a hunch it might
[06:49] <mb_again_> Andorin : may help - If you set a resolution inappropriate for your monitor in the Screen Resolution GUI tool, you can reset it by running rm ~/.config/monitors.xml from a terminal.
[06:50] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...k...take a moment to get through the cable jungle
[06:50] <mb_again_> andorin: from the page referred to by the bot above
[06:50] <boojit> jitender: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[06:50] <Andorin> mb_again_: Not the issue. I made an edit to xorg.conf that isn't flying and now my computer won't boot. Screen goes black right before the login.
[06:50] <Sturmeh> is there any way to 'specially' apply for a single cd from shipit if you are being blocked due to high demand and having previously ordered cd's?
[06:50] <Harrison_Bergero> back
[06:51] <jitender> ok
[06:51] <mb_again_> andorin: xorg should not stop the computer from booting. if you do control-alt-f3 do you get a text window?
[06:51] <psychuil> hi guys
[06:51] <Andorin> No.
[06:52] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....attempting second copy with known good CAT5
[06:52] <mb_again_> hang on
[06:52] <Sturmeh> anybodY?
[06:52] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...and different port on router
[06:52] <boojit> jitender: start with cron, just do something like "touch /var/tmp/somefile" and get cron to touch that file every minute or so, or whatever you want.
[06:52] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: cool
[06:52] <Andorin> Er
[06:53] <boojit> jitender: start with cron, just do something like "touch /var/tmp/somefile" and get cron to touch that file every minute or so, or whatever you want.
[06:53] <Andorin> mb_again_: No. Forgot to nickalert.
[06:53] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...thats odd....same slower transfer rate...im maxing out 8.8 instead of the normal 9.5
[06:53] <Sturmeh> i'll take that as a no
[06:53] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...ill be a monkey's uncle
[06:53] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....it worked
[06:53] <boojit> ok, well, that's just one test. Try it a few more times see if it is consistent
[06:53] <jitender> ok
[06:53] <Stumpie> hello, I am trying to buy some mini ITX systems for our computer science lab, Dose the new ubuntu 9.10 work with ION graphics adapters by Nvidia?
[06:54] <psychuil> how do i open another server connection?
[06:54] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: 8.8/9.5 whats? Kbps?
[06:54] <Andorin> mb_again_: I've just fixed it via live CD. It wasn't that the computer wouldn't boot, per se, but I couldn't login or even access the command line.
[06:54] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit Mb/s
[06:55] <boojit> hm. seems slow doesn't it? 100Mbps switch?
[06:55] <Seventoes> is there a list of commands available at a "grub rescue>" prompt?
[06:55] <jitender> i have already installed Gadmin- Rsync -GUI Application , so tell me through this .
[06:55] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...going for the big transfer so i can be done with this...37 files 14gb total
[06:55] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: k
[06:56] <zaoul> Is there anyway I can change my default shell If I do not have root access?
[06:56] <Stumpie> !nvidia ION
[06:56] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...7.3Mb/s transfer....what is the "normal" speed for a 100mbit connection
[06:56] <jacomeintjes> Hey Guys, I need some help with command line VLC on Ubuntu Server 9.04?
[06:56] <oliver3> zaoul, in your .bashrc add exec <path to shell> at the end
[06:56] <Seventoes> i can't seem to get rid of grub.. i tried dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1
[06:56] <zaoul> zaoul: that is assuming bash is my default shell?
[06:56] <michal__> i cant mount my usb drive...........'volume(ext4) listed in /etc/fstab is refusing to mount'
[06:56] <jitender> boojit
[06:57] <zaoul> lol..err
[06:57] <zaoul> oliver3: that is assuming bash is my default shell?
[06:57] <oliver3> yes
[06:57] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...going to take a little more than 40 minutes...going to bed.  Thanks for all your help.  Ill let you know how it went tomorrow
[06:57] <zaoul> k.. thanks.. some idiot admin over here set it as tcsh
[06:57] <oliver3> ouch
[06:57] <jacomeintjes> I'm running VLC 0.9.4
[06:57] <psychuil> how do i switch between langs?
[06:58] <zaoul> zsh!
[06:58] <jacomeintjes> I don't have much experience with the command line interface
[06:58] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: righto. jitender: what's up
[06:58] <oliver3> so guys... when enabling the fglrx driver from the GUI... it just stalls at 0%...
[06:59] <michal__> exit
[06:59] <Snicksie> jacomeintjes, what's the exact problem? what do you wanna do with the cli? ;)
[06:59] <jacomeintjes> For a start I just want to test the following: Encode and Stream from a WinPC to the Ubuntu Server and then play the stream from here
[06:59] <jitender> Harrison_Bergero,
[06:59] <jitender> u pls guide me
[06:59] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...NOOOOO...it just crashed
[07:00] <jacomeintjes> I've done this for a long time now between Win PC's using the GUI
[07:00] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: hm.
[07:00] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: connection timed out?
[07:00] <jacomeintjes> But going the CLI now is my challenge
[07:00] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....wait, it told it to skip over and its continuing...HA
[07:00] <psychuil> Anyone? How can i switch between typing languages?
[07:00] <GreenDelta2> hey, how can i use the built in vpn client of ubuntu? when i click on networkconnections and then on vpn i see the client but i cant do anything. (like adding profiles and so on)
[07:00] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....could this be a harddrive problem?
[07:01] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...dropped down to 6.MB/s
[07:01] <Snicksie> GreenDelta2, are you 'auted' on the network-screen? ;)
[07:01] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: on your windows box? well if that was the case it would happen when you tried to copy win->win
[07:02] <GreenDelta2> Snicksie: no? how do i do?
[07:02] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...win to win with same CAT5 cable that im using now i copied 40GB without incident...no errors
[07:02] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: so as long as you are completely sure that network copying win->win is solid then doesn't seem like the problem shoudl be the HDD on your windows box.
[07:02] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....timed out again
[07:02] <boojit> hm
[07:03] <Harrison_Bergero> told it to skip over
[07:03] <psychuil> ANYONE?
[07:03] <Snicksie> GreenDelta2, hm, my fault. that was an old version :$ but have you installed all things needed for vpn? ;)
[07:03] <Harrison_Bergero> and again...another time out
[07:03] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: yeah that doesn't feel right.
[07:03] <GreenDelta2> Snicksie: these are?
[07:04] <Harrison_Bergero> there must be something wrong here on ubuntu end....hard drive-data cable-controller...what do zou thing?
[07:04] <luckymurali> Hi to all
[07:04] <luckymurali> I am using Ubuntu server 9.04\
[07:04] <luckymurali> i m having some problem
[07:04] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit..the odd thing about it all is i can copy from windows to ubuntu but not the other way around
[07:05] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...before i go swapping out hardware id like to address that
[07:05] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: yeah that's why it feels network related
[07:05] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: as soon as the network load goes up, you have problems. When the load is down everything looks ok.
[07:05] <luckymurali> even im not doing any process 2 of my processeor is showing 100% usage
[07:05] <boojit> It could be something else, as you say, but if feels network-ey to me.
[07:05] <luckymurali> why it is hapenning
[07:05] <luckymurali> ??
[07:05] <Snicksie> GreenDelta2, network-manager-pptp network-manager-vpnc network-manager-openvpn ; depends which kind of vpn-server it is ;)
[07:05] <luckymurali> please tell me
[07:06] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...i use bittorrent, let run for days without problems.  Dont have this issue
[07:06] <DaZ> luckymurali: botnet
[07:06] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...timed out again....told it to skip over
[07:06] <luckymurali> DaZ: what is that???
[07:06] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: yeah but that's still an order of magnitude less network traffic than copying over the lan, because you're limited by your broadband connection
[07:07] <kenyon> !monitoring > luckymurali
[07:07] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: ok i would try a couple of things. I would probably take that other windows box, the one that you copy successfully with, and boot that on an ubuntu live CD, see if you can copy reliably there.
[07:07] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...well yeah...lots of smaller connections as opposed to one connection with more load
[07:08] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: yeah and an order of magnitude less load, don't forget.
[07:08] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....that will have to wait....the suns already up!
[07:09] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...i need a trained monkey to keep skipping over each time a timeout occurs
[07:09] <boojit> yeah well keep testing it out, try copying to/fro USB drives to isolate your drive hypothesis.
[07:10] <minderaser> I'm rather stuck trying to restore my home directory if anyone is able to help. (explanation follows)
[07:10] <boojit> keep swapping out network stuff to see if you can isolate it. I mean, it could be your switch. Could be the network adapter in the ubuntu box. I really doubt it is the fault of the windows networking layer in Ubuntu -- i use that all the time, no issues.
[07:10] <minderaser> I was changing partitions around, and thought I could could just backup my /home/me directory to a USB and restore from there. I made a tarball of it, changed partitions around, unpacked the tarball, used find with touch to make all the dates current, and tried to cp them all to /home/me and voi-la! But, no matter what, some files/directories refuse to be overwritten (notably .profile and .mozilla) even as root. Hmmm...
[07:11] <luckymurali> but no process taking 100% of cpu
[07:11] <boojit> later Harrison_Bergero
[07:11] <luckymurali> i paste the process list
[07:11] <minderaser> hrrmmm... maybe not the best explanation :/
[07:12] <luckymurali> http://paste.ubuntu.com/302596/
[07:12] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....wait
[07:12] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...i just did a dumbshit....how do i undelete a folder...its not in the wastebasket?
[07:12] <luckymurali> can you please tell me which process is taking more of my cpu??
[07:13] <Snicksie> minderaser, perhaps you'd better overwrite it in livecd-modus? perhaps it's because that directories and files are used? dunno ;)
[07:13] <boojit> uh. So you deleted a folder on the windows network drive by accident? how did you delete it? pressing delete?
[07:13] <boojit> yeah, i don't think deleted network folders go to the recycler. I'm not really sure.
[07:14] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...i deleted in ubuntu...i wanted to delete the incomplete copied folder off windows and did it here by mistake
[07:14] <Harrison_Bergero> its not in the wastebasket!
[07:14] <Harrison_Bergero> grr
[07:14] <minderaser> Snicksie: That's a good thought, similar to one I had, so I tried it in cp them over in recovery mode at a root prompt and no dice.
[07:14] <Harrison_Bergero> SIGH
[07:14] <boojit> ok so you were on the ubuntu side and deleted a windows folder? or an ubuntu folder?
[07:14] <Snicksie> minderaser, so that didn't work? ;)
[07:15] <minderaser> Snicksie: I'm assuming that more-or-less rules out the "in use" idea, right?
[07:15] <Harrison_Bergero> on unbuntu and deleted an ubuntu folder
[07:15] <jedc> luckymurali, you cn type top into a terminal and it will show you which processes are using the most cpu
[07:15] <minderaser> Snicksie: nope, no luck that way either
[07:15] <Snicksie> boojit, sometimes you can find a .Trash-1000 folder, perhaps it's there? ;)
[07:15] <OzTrOuT> hi all :)
[07:15] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: by pressing "delete" or "shift-delete"?
[07:16] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit....rightmouse and selecting delete in the menu
[07:16] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: should be in your trash then.
[07:16] <boojit> i think
[07:17] <domo> http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/23/linus-torvalds-gives-windows-7-a-big-thumbs-up/
[07:17] <domo> hahaha ^
[07:17] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...getting tired...i must have highlighted and the hit the "delete" key
[07:17] <boojit> wait there is no delete on the context menu.
[07:17] <psychuil> Why can't i install monodev?
[07:17] <boojit> if you hit the delete key it would be in your trash. If you hit shift-delete then it is gone.
[07:18] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit..right.  I must have highlighted the folder and then hit the "delete" key on the keyboard
[07:18] <Harrison_Bergero> boojit...definately did not hit shift delete
[07:18] <psychuil> It tells me "cannot find package 'monodevelop'"
[07:18] <boojit> Harrison_Bergero: if you just hit delete, then it should be in trash
[07:19] <Snicksie> psychuil, do you mean installing 'monodevelop' ? ;)
[07:20] <psychuil> ya, but i cba to write the whole name :P
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> psychuil: you can tab complete package names
[07:21] <zortec> Does anyone have the P6NGM2 (MS-7518) motherboard with the nVidia GeForce 7050/610i chipset.  I am trying to find a manual on the video card to see what resolutions it can support.  Any ideas?
[07:21] <boojit> ok i'm out. Later Harrison_Bergero. hope you find your stuff.
[07:21] <zortec> Much appreciated if you can point me to where there is a manual.
[07:21] <indus> ActionParsnip: hello good day
[07:22] <Albn99> Hello. I am trying to figure out how to make the mouse position on the screen not "stick" as I move the thing around. Any ideas?
[07:22] <psychuil> Ok, so how do i install monodevelop? (btw, tab didn't work)
[07:22] <infidx> i have 3 computers on my local network and sshd running on two of them (/var/run/sshd.pid has a PID on both). Anyway i'm able to log into one computer but not the other with ssh infid@computername. the /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/sshd_config files are exactly the same. any ideas?
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> hi indus
[07:22] <Snicksie> psychuil, sudo apt-get install monodevelop
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> !info monodevelop
[07:22] <Maje> I'm having issues getting my wifi card working on a terminal without Ubuntu...it's an Intel WiFi 5100 which according to Intel is included in the kernel, but the wifi card doesn't initialize on boot, anyone able to point me in the right direction?
[07:22] <zortec> psychuil: Most applications are installed through a package manager or from the cli using sudo apt-get appname
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> its in the universe repo
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install monodevelop
[07:23] <Maje> I'm just curious as to why Ubuntu supports it from-the-box when the kernel is "supposed" to do the same, what am I missing here?
[07:23] <zortec> Are there manuals available from nvidia's website on graphic cards? I haven't found any
[07:23] <TheKro> how do I find out what the proxy settings are for an application I launch from the menu (adobe air claims it uses the "current desktop environment's proxy settings"...
[07:23] <psychuil> E: Couldn't find package monodevelop
[07:23] <TheKro> Kubuntu
[07:23] <zortec> I checked MSI and they didn't have any info on that particular video chipset
[07:23] <zaoul> How could I make a key modifier so that when I say, hold alt and scroll... it will scroll horizontally? I am using xfce.
[07:23] <indus> zortec: what kind of manuals?
[07:23] <psychuil> ActionParsnip: it doesn't lovve me :\
[07:23] <indus> zortec: check the manufacturer site
[07:23] <ayram> aammmm... in this channel speak english :S someone have a channel from Ubuntu in Spanish???
[07:24] <ayram> :S
[07:24] <zortec> indus: I am trying to find a manual on the NVIDIA MCP 73U chipset
[07:24] <ayram> someone?
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> psychuil: check you have universe repos enabled
[07:24] <luckymurali> http://paste.ubuntu.com/302601/
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> !es
[07:24] <indus> zortec: hmm nvidia have it as a pdf on the site i believe so
[07:24] <psychuil> i have no idea how to do that :\
[07:24] <TheKro> ayram: #ubuntu-es
[07:24] <luckymurali> jedc,
[07:24] <zortec> indus: Yeah I'm having trouble finding where they have pdf files on the site
[07:24] <indus> zortec: if you can locate the chipset on the site that is
[07:24] <ayram> gracias
[07:24] <ayram> :D
[07:24] <Maje> Para espanol...#ubuntu-es
[07:24] <luckymurali> please take a look on my process
[07:25] <indus> zortec: its on the left block somewhere
[07:25] <zortec> indus: I haven't had any luck in tracking down that particular chipset
[07:25] <luckymurali> list
[07:25] <n-named> i'm having problems with autossh on boot, i have it in a few locations but it doesn't work. It works when I type the command manually. Has anyone got this to work?
[07:25] <ayram> Bye :)
[07:25] <ayram> muchas gracias
[07:25] <ayram> :)
[07:25] <minderaser> I'm stuck trying to overwrite some config files in /home on a new install from a backup I made prior to the new install. Anyone have ideas why they won't write over the current ones?
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: try: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER
[07:26] <Maje> psychuil: system->administration->software sources will allow you to choose what repos you use
[07:26] <zortec> Searching for that chipset doesn't even come up on NVIDIA's website
[07:27] <n-named> i have the autossh command in both rc.local and gdm/Init/Default
[07:27] <cdoublejj> why when i click on the network icon in xubuntu the options are greyed out?
[07:27] <psychuil> Maje, i'm a complete n00b, can you please elaborate abit more?
[07:27] <Snicksie> cdoublejj, isn't there an option to 'auth'? ;)
[07:28] <indus> zortec: where is this chipset used?
[07:28] <zortec> Ok, I found a networking guide but I haven't seen a user manual or pdf on that chipset
[07:28] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: not quite sure I follow you there, but I wasn't very detailed in my explanation either.
[07:28] <zortec> indus: Not sure I understand the question
[07:28] <indus> zortec: is this on a motherboard?
[07:28] <n-named> does anyone have any tips to help me debug this?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: you should be the owner of every file in your home directory
[07:28] <n-named> i have no idea where to start. apparently nobody online has gotten this working either (i searched the forums)
[07:28] <zortec> zortec: ah. yes, part of the MSI mainboard
[07:29] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: I have a tarball of my previous /home/me, unpack it, chown it, even touch all the files to make the date current, and STILL some files won't get overwritten
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: files in backups are usually automatically made the owner of root so you will most likely need to take the power back
[07:29] <Maje> psychuil: The xxx->yyy->zzz thing tells you about menus. Under your system menu (as in applications, places, system) you might see administration, and then software sources
[07:29] <cdoublejj> wireless network bcm4318
[07:29] <cdoublejj> wireless network microsfot bcm43xg
[07:29] <cdoublejj> vpn connections
[07:29] <cdoublejj> connect to hidden wirless
[07:29] <cdoublejj> create new network
[07:29] <FloodBot2> cdoublejj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <cdoublejj> thats all i got
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: then you'll need to check the    ls -al   of the file, see whats going on
[07:29] <zortec> indus: I have d/l the motherboard manual, but it does not have much about the chipset so that is why I have been at nvidia's site
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> cdoublejj: dont do that, it scrolls the channel
[07:30] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: well, that's the problem right there (I think we're on the same page now)
[07:30] <cdoublejj> so how do i authorize this stuff?
[07:30] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: for the most part, files have correct ownership and current timestamp, but SOME just refuse to be updated
[07:30] <cdoublejj> even sounds is greyed out
[07:30] <zaoul> n-named: maybe make the script in /etc/init.d/ and see if services-admin will read it?
[07:30] <zaoul> kinda weird rc.local does not work
[07:31] <Albn99> :(
[07:31] <n-named> zaoul: i put it in /etc/init.d/rc.local
[07:31] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: I've even tried to do it from a root shell in recovery mode and they STILL won't get current timestamps
[07:31] <n-named> it is really odd
[07:31] <zaoul> n-named: what is the syntax you have in it?
[07:31] <zortec> indus: This is all the information I have
[07:31] <zortec> indus: http://pastebin.com/d35f8275
[07:32] <zortec> I am trying to locate a pdf document to find out more about that chipset
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: timestamp isnt too critical, its the ownerships and the write access on the files
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: could try: sudo chmod -R o+w /home/$USER
[07:33] <indus> zortec: hmm so what problem do u have wit h it
[07:33] <indus> zortec: i think google is showing lots of stuff on it
[07:33] <indus> zortec: none of those good?
[07:33] <zortec> indus: the problem I have is what I find out the supported resolutions of that chipset since I am looking at upgrading the monitor
[07:33] <n-named> zaoul   autossh -i /home/n/.ssh/id_rsa -f -N -L localhost:24800:other-host:24800 other-host &
[07:34] <zortec> indus: so I need to find out what monitors I can buy with that chipset
[07:34] <zaoul> n-named: ..weird
[07:35] <zaoul> Im not exactly sure what controls what scripts start up in ubuntu.. apartently there is no chkconfig
[07:35] <n-named> i've tried throwing it in a few locations for giggles
[07:35] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: I follow what you're saying. 2 reasons I mention the timestamps: 1) I was researching this a bit and read that some files will not allow being overwritten with an older version, so I touch -ed them all to make them all more current. 2) It shows that the files in /home/me have NOT been overwritten
[07:35] <n-named> i.e.: /etc/rc.local /etc/init.d/rc.local
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: are they writable?
[07:36] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: good thought, let me look into that
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: is there some form of archive bit on them (or can exist on files)
[07:36] <zortec> indus: I can't find the technical specs on that chipset
[07:36] <n-named> is there a way i can debug it? see the error or anything?
[07:36] <indus> zortec: hmm do you think some monitors wont work with it?
[07:36] <zortec> indus: it's possible if I get one with a super high res
[07:36] <zaoul> n-named: /var/log/messages maybe
[07:36] <zortec> indus: so would rather not take my chances
[07:37] <indus> zortec: unlikely
[07:37] <indus> zortec: its old chipset right?
[07:37] <n-named> zaoul: there is no var/log/messages.. :)
[07:37] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: writing perms look ok
[07:37] <zortec> indus: hmm. but still, nvidia should provide info on the chipset, no?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: you could covery all bases with: sudo chmod -R 750 /home/$USER
[07:37] <indus> zortec: yeah
[07:37] <steven_> When I install Xubuntu on VirtualBox what version of Linux do I install it as? Xubuntu is not lasted as an option.  Do I choose other Linux or Ubuntu 64-bit?
[07:37] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: I don't know what you're talking about with archive bits though
[07:37] <zaoul> n-named: eww.. check you have a syslog
[07:37] <zortec> steven_: You can be safe just using 2.4 linux kernel
[07:38] <zaoul> n-named: that should be a default service in the distro
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: are the files readable? If they are you could copy one to make a "new" version and delete the old
[07:38] <steven_> Why not 2.6?
[07:38] <n-named> i have system.log
[07:38] <n-named> not messages
[07:38] <zortec> steven_: 2.6... sorry the highest one that is supported in VBox
[07:38] <n-named> oh, wait n/m
[07:38] <steven_> k, thnx
[07:38] <n-named> wrong box..
[07:39] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: yes, readable, writable (at least to owner)
[07:39] <zortec> indus: sure I can do trial and error, but I know it supports vga and dvi... what I want to know is the max res supported by nvidia geforce 7050/nforce 610i chipset
[07:39] <n-named> zortec: i see when it successfuly starts, when i run it myself
[07:39] <indus> zortec: wait
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: good enough, try copying a known bad file and then try to edit the new file
[07:39] <n-named> although there is no mention of any error when i don't run it
[07:40] <n-named> when it should be run but isn't
[07:40] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: I fail to see how doing a chown will help anything, because it will only affect the files that were generated on the install, not the backup ones I want to have there
[07:40] <indus> zortec: geforce 7050 basically
[07:40] <zortec> n-named: I think another user was helping you
[07:40] <zortec> n-named: was not paying attention to your issue
[07:40] <n-named> i mean zaoul, my mistake
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: if they ar eare in /home/$USER they will be affected
[07:40] <zortec> indus: yeah, basically
[07:41] <zortec> indus: is there a pdf available on the 7050?
[07:41] <n-named> zaoul: ah, i see that it starts
[07:41] <n-named> but then the process doesn't exist anymore after i log in
[07:42] <zortec> n-named I suggest you add & to keep it running in the bg
[07:42] <zaoul> n-named: any logs for ...what was the app again?
[07:42] <zortec> n-named: or use the fg and bg commands to put processes in the foreground and background
[07:42] <zaoul> ssh..
[07:42] <n-named> i have an & zortec
[07:42] <n-named> zaoul: i see this in messages
[07:43] <n-named> ssh child pid is 2923
[07:43] <indus> zortec: interestingly ther isnt any for the 7050
[07:43] <n-named> but then when i check, the process isn't there
[07:43] <indus> zortec: need to report to nvidia this
[07:43] <n-named> so i think it starts or attempts to, but then gets killed
[07:43] <zortec> indus: what do you mean there isn't any? that is odd...
[07:44] <indus> zortec: got it
[07:44] <zaoul> n-named: any log of that /var/log/ssh... ?
[07:44] <zaoul> first step is getting some debug info
[07:44] <indus> zortec: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_35712.html
[07:44] <n-named> var/log/ssh?
[07:44] <zaoul> anything ...  under /var/log/
[07:44] <indus> zortec: i suggest you go to MSI website, and check it
[07:44] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: update...and this makes no sense to me. I did "cp -p .profile" from my restore file to /home/$USER and now it looks fine. Why didn't it work when I did "cp -pr /restore/me/* /home/me" I wonder?
[07:44] <zaoul> that could be related
[07:44] <indus> zortec: iam sure it will be there
[07:44] <n-named> i grep'd for ssh
[07:44] <n-named> don't see anything rleated
[07:45] <n-named> snot sure why it's getting killed..
[07:45] <zaoul> hell you could grep ..
[07:45] <zaoul> lol
[07:45] <n-named> ah, here
[07:45] <zortec> indus: but where do you find resolution in that?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: hmmm strange, not sure myself
[07:45] <n-named> ssh exited prematurely with status 255; autossh exiting
[07:45] <zaoul> grep -r ssh /var/log
[07:45] <ekontsevoy> how do I uninstall a package which I installed from a deb file?
[07:46] <n-named> in user.log
[07:46] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: I guess I can go through and find each individual file that's not current timestamp and do that, but gaaaawwwd what a pain. The cp -rp * SHOULD work
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: totally, bt of al ballache, maybe you could script it
[07:47] <indus> zortec: got it wait
[07:47] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: I'm not at all proficient with scripting, not at all. You can see I _somewhat_ know my way around a Linux system, but I don't script at all
[07:47] <n-named> i think i know what it is
[07:48] <oliver3> Is it possible to use OSSv4 on Ubuntu... without resorting to hair pulling?
[07:48] <n-named> i'm using hostname instead of @hostname
[07:48] <n-named> and it gets run as root, which will fail
[07:48] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: but, hey, thanks for all your help!!
[07:48] <indus> zortec: cant find res but what monitor are you talking abbout?
[07:48] <n-named> it's t;rying to log in as root...
[07:48] <indus> zortec: best is manufacturer page but it should support upto 1900 and above easy
[07:48] <zortec> indus: yeah that is what I was trying to find
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> minderaser: you got some gold at least :)
[07:49] <n-named> nope that's not it
[07:49] <n-named> blah
[07:49] <indus> zortec: K9NGM3 board?
[07:49] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: ???
[07:49] <jitender> ActionParsnip, pls help me for type the command in crontab file for backup schedule
[07:49] <cdoublejj> >	will fwcutter work on xubuntu
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> !cron | jitender
[07:50] <indus> zortec: it has single link DVI support so be careful
[07:50] <zortec> indus: MS-7518
[07:51] <indus> zortec: Blazing-fast RAMDAC supports display with high, ergonomic refresh rates up to and including 1920x1440@75Hz.
[07:51] <indus> zortec: http://www.nvidia.com/object/mobo_gpu_features_benefits.html#gf7nf5
[07:51] <zortec> indus: P6NGM2-L
[07:51] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: I'm going to reboot into recovery mode and try to beat the hell out of this with the sledgehammer of root and see what I can do. See you around
[07:52] <indus> zortec: so dont expect 1080p res
[07:52] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me... i have been asked by my department head to host the department website in the server along with the college website. Already the department website has been hosted and i need to shift it from there to our college server. I have been given a choice of using either fedora or install another server of my choice and host the site in it... I want to know how i can do this..
[07:52] <indus> zortec: its integrated so what u expect
[07:52] <indus> zortec: but check with MSI for specifics
[07:52] <zortec> indus: where did you find that? I see the 7050
[07:52] <zortec> indus: but not the 610i on there
[07:52] <satya> i cant see video on ubuntu
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> satya: turn your monitor on
[07:53] <indus> zortec: 610 is the southbridge for media storage and communications , nothing to do with display
[07:54] <zortec> indus: where do you see the res?
[07:54] <indus> zortec: its mentioned keep reading
[07:54] <satya> i m not joking,,,in ubuntu9.04,,,i cant see videos in youtube
[07:55] <indus> zortec: http://www.nvidia.com/object/mobo_gpu_features_benefits.html#gf7nf5
[07:55] <obiwan_> hi please anybody knows about gpl licensing?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> satya: thats better, you gave more info
[07:55] <endri> i have a italian keyboard and sice i updated i dont know why every time i have to make  do setxkb it. and the login console works well
[07:55] <indus> see u later
[07:55] <hanasaki> I turn on advanced visual effects and it works fine.. however when I next login they are no longer on.  how can I save this setting?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> satya: you should have said that first rather than the extremely vague first line you gave
[07:55] <endri> how can i make X loag the italian key map
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> satya: have you installed flash?
[07:55] <satya> yes
[07:55] <zebastian> i'm on lxde, how can i get nautilus to be the default file manager
[07:56] <porkpie> how do I search for text in a file using grep .... need to search through multiple folders
[07:56] <zebastian> i am on ubuntu but logged on lxde, however i want nautilus to be the default file manager
[07:56] <zortec> indus: ok I see it now
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> satya: can you tab complete my name at the start of lines so i am alerted when you address me
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> satya: see how my text to you is highlighted, thats NOT an accident
[07:57] <satya> ok action
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> satya: after you type action, press tab
[07:57] <satya> ActionParsnip: ok
[07:57] <steven_> How do I reformat or delete all of the stuff on a cd in Ubuntu?  As silly as it sounds it will not let me
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> satya: can you please use http://pastebin.com    to give the output of: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> satya: much better, makes it less confusing in a channel ofnearly 1400 users ;)
[07:58] <satya> ActionParsnip: ty
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> satya: once you give me the output of that command in a pastebin, I can advise
[08:00] <sam_> any one will tell me how i find a unix shell from ubuntu-9.04
[08:02] <kenyon> !terminal > sam_
[08:04] <chilli0> Hello , is there anyway to turn up the bass on ubuntu ?
[08:04] <chilli0> lol
[08:04] <Bodsda> chilli0: one of the bars in 'alsamixer' might be bass, not sure though
[08:04] <tstebut> Hello
[08:05] <Bodsda> hi
[08:05] <chilli0> Bodsda:  Where can i get to alsamixer?
[08:06] <Bodsda> chilli0: run the command 'alsamixer' without quotes from the terminal
[08:06] <chilli0> Bodsda:  Is there a gui one?
[08:06] <cdoublejj> how do i gain admin in xubuntu?
[08:06] <Bodsda> dunno, why would you want a gui one when alsamixer is just as good
[08:06] <Bodsda> cdoublejj: I would assume through sudo
[08:06] <tstebut> I'd like to easy change timer frequency on a non debian vm, in order to make it less greedy with the host CPU
[08:06] <George_E> cdoublejj use the sudo command
[08:06] <chilli0> Bodsda:  Im in that , but it all looks like volue controlls.
[08:07] <tstebut> ...host's ubuntu server Jaunty
[08:07] <cdoublejj> for general porpouses i told it to install gstreamer plugins and it said it couldn't open the file when i tried to play the movie
[08:07] <Bodsda> chilli0: hehm like I said, 'not sure though'
[08:07] <ubuntunewbie> hi , anyone know how to update ubuntu kernel using command line at terminal ?
[08:07] <ubuntunewbie> thank you
[08:07] <chilli0> okie thanks anyway Bodsda
[08:07] <sam_> Bodsda :use this alsamixer -Dhw
[08:08] <Bodsda> sam_: care to explain what that does? looks no different to me
[08:08] <sam_> hey plz tell me about unix
[08:08] <Bodsda> sam_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
[08:08] <George_E> sam_ what do u want 2 know
[08:09] <sam_> badsda : i will pop up the alsamixer on terminal
[08:09] <kenyon> ubuntunewbie: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[08:09] <sam_> gorge_E how i open unix shell on ubuntu
[08:10] <kenyon> sam_: ubottu already told you
[08:10] <frogzoo> anyone having difficulties logging in to gmail?
[08:10] <sam_> ok
[08:10] <George_E> its called terminal and it's in the applications menu
[08:10] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: how do I check my kernel version on terminal ?
[08:10] <sam_> ohh
[08:11] <kenyon> ubuntunewbie: uname -a
[08:11] <bigmack83_> im trying to install the java ee 5 jdk for ubuntu 64 bit, but when trying to run the bin file i get this error: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:11] <sam_> oh thanks  gorge_e
[08:11] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: oh , thanks what is sudo aptitude full-upgrade ? is it upgrade my version of ubuntu ?
[08:11] <Morwind> anyone here successfully compiled Conspire?
[08:11] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: I am using ubuntu 8.04
[08:11] <sam_> can you tell me how i program on it
[08:11] <bigmack83_> but i already have the libstdc++6 package installed and libstdc++5 says unknown package. anyone familiar with this?
[08:11] <Bodsda> frogzoo: its working fine for me
[08:12] <kenyon> ubuntunewbie: it upgrades packages, but not your ubuntu version
[08:12] <George_E> bigmack83_ u need to set the library search path
[08:12] <bigmack83_> im trying to install the jdk so i can run eclipse
[08:12] <kraut> moin
[08:12] <kenyon> bigmack83_: how did you install the jdk?
[08:12] <frogzoo> Bodsda: k, thx
[08:12] <bigmack83_> George_E, set search path?
[08:13] <Bodsda> bigmack83_: just install eclipse from the repo's, it should grab all the dependencies for you
[08:13] <George_E> u can run eclipse by downloading its package
[08:13] <bigmack83_> kenyon, i downloaded the bin file from the site and ran: ./java....bin
[08:13] <iceroot> how to find a filename recursiv in a specific location on the shell?
[08:13] <kenyon> bigmack83_: you don't need to do that
[08:13] <Billiard> iceroot: the find command
[08:13] <bigmack83_> Bodsda, i tried that too. when it installed it never didn anything when i tried to launch it
[08:13] <Bodsda> iceroot: ls -R /some/path | grep filename
[08:13] <iceroot> Billiard: ah ok, i was trying grep
[08:14] <kenyon> bigmack83_: get the eclipse tarball from eclipse.org and extract it in your home directory, and run it from there
[08:14] <George_E> Or get the DEB...
[08:14] <bigmack83_> KennethP, well i had the sun-java6-jdk from the repos installed but trying to run eclipse still didnt work som im still trying to figure this out
[08:15] <bigmack83_> kenyon, i tried that too. the executable bin file just did nothing
[08:15] <sam_> George_E : i have a problem with audio
[08:15] <kenyon> the eclipse ubuntu package was way out of date last I looked
[08:15] <George_E> sam_ what?
[08:15] <sam_> when i on my pc its noise like ,(a bomb)
[08:16] <bigmack83_> KennethP, it was a little out of date yea bat was still up on the major version
[08:16] <George_E> sam_ when? all the time?
[08:16] <sam_> yes
[08:16] <bigmack83_> KennethP, sorry wrong person
[08:16] <kenyon> iceroot: use the find command, not ls -R | grep
[08:16] <sam_> its just started 7 days ago
[08:16] <bigmack83_> kenyon, eclipse in repos is on 3.5
[08:17] <kenyon> bigmack83_: so use that
[08:17] <George_E> sam_ you probably need to get drivers for your soundcard...
[08:17] <jitender> commands r not so clear in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto link
[08:17] <George_E> mine worked out of the box
[08:17] <sam_> but i can hear all the music and songs
[08:18] <sam_> i think i have a problem with alasha mix
[08:18] <bigmack83_> kenyon, i tried. but after installing it, running it just did nothing. even after restarting. in the cli there was no feedback. just waiting for it to start and quits
[08:18] <George_E> sam_ can you describe the sound a bit more?
[08:18] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: Do you know how to fix ubutu if the kernel is corrupted ?
[08:19] <jitender> any body will help me for cron schedule backup command
[08:19] <kenyon> ubuntunewbie: define "kernel is corrupted"
[08:19] <morpheuss> hello guys
[08:19] <sam_> yes....  its sound like shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.sh
[08:19] <morpheuss> unable to install grub on usb stick http://pastie.org/671313
[08:20] <morpheuss> grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda1.
[08:20] <helloworld> ls
[08:20] <George_E> sam_ k. your speakers volume is too high
[08:20] <George_E> turn the sound on your programs up
[08:20] <jitender>  any body can help me for cron schedule backup command
[08:20] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: yesterday my ubuntu crash so I press reset button then , I can't boot to ubuntu .I choose recovery and things get worst .whne I boot all the chracter are in square unreadable http://img76.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1ye7.png.
[08:21] <Billiard> jitender: sure
[08:21] <kenyon> !ask | jitender
[08:21] <sam_> yes you can say that ... past 7 days ago i dint have the problem
[08:21] <bigmack83_> just tried installing eclipse from the repos again and its the same problem. it just doesnt start
[08:21] <sam_> why now
[08:21] <sam_> ?
[08:21] <kenyon> ubuntunewbie: 404 - Not Found
[08:21] <George_E> what do u mean?
[08:22] <jitender> schedule backup command for cron file
[08:22] <George_E> jitender how often?
[08:22] <Billiard> jitender: you need to say what you want specificly, what part are you having trouble with
[08:23] <jitender> i want to know the command format of crontab file
[08:23] <chazco> Is there any way to post a comment to a launchpad bug without registering>
[08:23] <Morwind> I'm trying to compile something but it's complaining about me lacking GTK and/or its dependencies. How would I go about installing those?
[08:23] <kenyon> jitender: you were alread given https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto . see also man 5 crontab
[08:24] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: sorry http://img48.imageshack.us/i/screenshotml0.png
[08:24] <dux70> #ubuntu-it
[08:24] <George_E> manually doing it is over my head
[08:24] <frogzoo> mmm - suddenly firefox won't log me in to any of my sites...
[08:24] <kenyon> ubuntunewbie: 404 - Not Found
[08:24] <jitender> i am unable to find the command in the given link
[08:24] <morpheuss> Morwind, try installing GTk libraries
[08:24] <George_E> frogzoo did u try reseting your cookies?
[08:25] <ubuntunewbie> ??
[08:25] <kenyon> jitender: what is "the command"?
[08:25] <morpheuss> through synaptic or apt-get
[08:25] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon:  http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9766/screenshotml0.png try again
[08:25] <frogzoo> George_E: no, worth a go you think?
[08:25] <jitender> you write the crontab backup command
[08:26] <George_E> frogzoo maybe. it has worked on other browsers
[08:26] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: this one work http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9766/screenshotml0.png
[08:26] <frogzoo> George_E: you gave me a pointer in the right direction though - cleared cache - bingo - thanks so much
[08:27] <zak_> hi is there any command  to see if my connection  is encrypted or not ?
[08:27] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: all character are in square , I can't read anything at all
[08:27] <kenyon> ubuntunewbie: I see it. I know it has nothing to do with the kernel, but I don't know how to fix that.
[08:27] <Billiard> jitender: there many options, there is not just one crontab entry that will work exactly how everyone wants, you need to be more specific, exactly what do you want to backup, to where, how often
[08:27] <George_E> frogzoo anytime :)
[08:28] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: uhm... so anyway to understand what cause of the problem ?
[08:28] <morpheuss> George_E, http://pastie.org/671313 any idea ?
[08:28] <zak_> hi is there any command  to see if my connection  is encrypted or not ?
[08:28] <kenyon> ubuntunewbie: looks like some kind of problem with the fonts
[08:28] <kenyon> zak_: no
[08:28] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: anyway to fix it ?
[08:28] <jitender> i want to take backup my /home/jitender account to my /media
[08:29] <kenyon> jitender: use rsync
[08:29] <George_E> morpheuss sorry. i cant go to links. im using a mobile irc client.
[08:29] <jitender> provide full command of rsync
[08:29] <SpiceMan> man rsync
[08:29] <Billiard> lol
[08:29] <ubuntunewbie> kenyon: I did modified the font to segoe UI fonts , how t oreset it to be default?
[08:30] <morpheuss> anyways thanks George_E :)
[08:31] <speedhunt3r> help, I accidentally wrote over my /etc/hosts file instead of just appending to it, and now its gone... is there a way to have the system re-generated it?
[08:32] <SpiceMan> speedhunt3r: depends on your fs
[08:32] <speedhunt3r> SpiceMan, whats my fs?
[08:32] <tstebut> I'd like to easy change timer frequency on a non debian vm, in order to make it less greedy with the host CPU
[08:32] <tstebut> Hey
[08:33] <tstebut> Can somebody help ?
[08:33] <SpiceMan> speedhunt3r: file system
[08:33] <aboSamoor_> I am starting to use evolution to notify me for new emails as empathy does not do that ! once I close the evolution window it quit ! and it is not any more checking my inbox !
[08:33] <speedhunt3r> SpiceMan, its ext3
[08:33] <kenyon> speedhunt3r: here you go http://paste.pocoo.org/show/147224/
[08:35] <speedhunt3r> kenyon, ty
[08:37] <morpheuss> kenyon, http://pastie.org/671313
[08:37] <sam_> Gorge_e: hello mr. gorge
[08:38] <sam_> plz tell how i connect my blutooth dongle with my phone
[08:39] <sam_> when ever i tried to do so ..... system tels me resource is busy
[08:39] <Temujin2> does ubuntu's installation iso give you the option to run as a live cd?
[08:40] <pawel> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:40] <pawel> any1 know hot to deal with that
[08:41] <pawel> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:41] <pawel> how to deal with that
[08:41] <Temujin2> you're never going to 'get' English, so stop trying to correct yourself
[08:41] <iceroot> Temujin2: yes but not the alternate and server-cd
[08:42] <pawel> when i try to install anything i get the error dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:42] <pawel> what is that
[08:42] <Temujin2> it's flooding
[08:42] <iceroot> pawel: and hwta happend if running the command?
[08:42] <morpheuss> hehe
[08:43] <afancy> Hi, how to exclude all of the .svn folder, i use the following command, but it doesn work. tar czf myprogram.tar.gz src lib --exclude =./../.svn
[08:43] <pawel> in terminal when i try to type this manually i cant enter he password
[08:43] <iceroot> pawel: why you cant?
[08:44] <pawel> i type the 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and then it asks me for password and i cant write a number/letter
[08:45] <Temujin2> it doesn't show up
[08:45] <Flannel> pawel: You're entering the password, it just won't show anything as you type.  That's normal.
[08:47] <babbio> i can't delete some files on my external hard disk....i have these error http://codepad.org/CRXE2gbK please help me
[08:47] <pawel> Processing 2 added doc-base file(s)...
[08:47] <pawel> Registering documents with scrollkeeper...
[08:47] <pawel> ah it worked
[08:47] <pawel> but what now
[08:48] <FloodBot2> pawel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:48] <vtec_> hello how do i uninstall kde completely from my computer? I've gone to synaptic and marked for complete removal but I still have all of the K apps and I don't want them anymore
[08:51] <DJones> !puregnome | vtec_
[08:52] <DJones> vtec_: That should leave you with a basic gnome desktop
[08:52] <vtec_> !puregnome
[08:52] <vtec_> oh
[08:52] <vtec_> sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:52] <vtec_> So I just type that?
[08:53] <cdoublejj> so can i setup wine the same exact way for xubuntu as i would ubuntu?
[08:53] <DJones> vtec_: Its not something I've done myself, but thats how I read ubottu's message
[08:53] <vtec_> DJones: will that remove all my desktop settings I have at the moment?
[08:54] <DJones> vtec_: I'm not sure about that, I'm sure somebody else in the channel will know the answer though, it might just take a bit of time for somebody who knows to come into the channel
[08:54] <vtec_> alright DJones I appreciate it mate
[08:55] <kuksi> hey
[08:55] <vtec_> Guess there is only one way to find out
[08:55] <DJones> vtec_: No prob's, i wish i could help more, i've just not tried that myself, so don't want to say it'll do exactly what you want without being certain
[08:56] <vtec_> DJones: looking at the terminal it is removing everything I needed removed
[08:56] <vtec_> now I don't know what's going to happen with the ubuntu-desktop command
[08:56] <SpiceMan> it just removes the kade libraries
[08:56] <SpiceMan> *kde
[08:57] <vtec_> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:57] <vtec_>   gnome-orca libgnome-speech7 ubuntu-desktop
[08:57] <vtec_> Shall I say no and leave it as it is?
[08:57] <ubuntunewbie2> kenyon: I did modified the font to segoe UI fonts , how to reset it to be default arial and Sans using command line ?
[08:58] <iceroot> how to extract the ramdisk (linux26.bin)  gunzip linux26.bin is not working. file is telling me its a gzip-file
[08:59] <securityadmin> why wont my 8.04 read my ext4 file system and how can i get it to do so
[08:59] <vtec_> DJones: The command worked great and removed everything, nothing changed in my Ubuntu Desktop, all went well.
[08:59] <Dayofswords> so, two days left?
[09:00] <overmacht> securityadmin: sorry i don't hear that.
[09:01] <vtec_> Quick question, what is the difference bewteen Add/Remove and Synaptic?
[09:01] <securityadmin> 8.04 installs with a ext3 file system but i have another version of linux and some files i need on it but i used a ext4 file system on the one
[09:02] <vtec_> What is a linux shell? Basically a command?
[09:02] <Blizzerand> vtec_ : Nothing much ,
[09:02] <indus> vtec_: synaptic is a more advanced vresion with more control over packages etc
[09:02] <ziroday> vtec_: Synaptic lists every application (including libraries and *-dev packages) whilst Add/Remove only lists applications. If you're not sure use Add/Remove
[09:02] <securityadmin> synaptic is a more advance version of add/ remove
[09:02] <Blizzerand> !synaptic
[09:02] <overmacht> securityadmin: ext4 must be you have choose it. not auto.
[09:02] <Linx> Anybody running linux4one on an acer aspire one? Could do with a little tech.
[09:02] <vtec_> Ahhh I see
[09:02] <vtec_> Thankyou all very much
[09:02] <indus> vtec_: add/remove sucks anyway
[09:02] <ziroday> vtec_: as for the linux shell, its similar to the windows or mac shell, its a command line :)
[09:02] <iceroot> Linx: what is linux4one?
[09:02] <Blizzerand> Linx : Use #linux
[09:02] <vtec_> I understand
[09:03] <indus> vtec_: synaptic is great really, so many options to mess with, you can spend hours just reading about packages :)
[09:03] <securityadmin> i know but i wana access it and it says that it can't mount it
[09:03] <Linx> It's a hardware-ready version for the netbook.
[09:03] <iceroot> Linx: but no ubuntu?
[09:03] <Linx> It's a version of ubuntu
[09:03] <vtec_> Indus: well said haha, thanks mate
[09:03] <iceroot> !who | Linx
[09:04] <ziroday> Linx: unfortunately we don't support ubuntu derivatives here, sorry.
[09:04] <securityadmin> how do i access the partition i need stuff off of it
[09:04] <Linx> ubottu: Cheers, chief, but as i was talking to two in particular, that seemed a bit redundant... Im sure they coped.
[09:04] <securityadmin> is there a patch that i can download or driver
[09:04] <Linx> Ziroday: cheers anyway.
[09:04] <Plasma2000> Hello Everybody. I'm an absolute beginner with Linux and wanted to create a bootable USB stick with the current CD image of ubuntu on it from Windows. Here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick) they say that the usb creator is in the root of the CD, but it isn't (at least not in the available i386 32bit isos). Am I searching for that tool in the wrong place?
[09:05] <ziroday> Plasma2000: did you download the latest version of ubuntu?
[09:05] <securityadmin> really all you have to do is copy the cd files to the usb stick
[09:05] <Bruc> hey wsup all
[09:05] <securityadmin> the auto run will take over
[09:05] <indus> Plasma2000: to create it from windows you use a software called unetbootin
[09:05] <indus> securityadmin: that is totally wrong
[09:06] <securityadmin> that is how i did it in windows
[09:06] <Plasma2000> @ziroday: yes, not only that one, but also the currently available beta and the older 8.x available for download - all of them not containing the usb creator tool.
[09:06] <securityadmin> not bootable of course
[09:06] <ziroday> Plasma2000: hmm they should, give me a second
[09:06] <DJones> vtec_: Great, glad to hear its worked
[09:06] <indus> !unetbootin | Plasma2000
[09:06] <Appler> Hey all
[09:06] <vtec_> Hehe
[09:07] <securityadmin> can any one help me mount my ext4 file system on this ext3 system
[09:07] <Appler> vtec_ : Was that a laugh
[09:07] <indus> ziroday: the usb creator tool is present on the cd?
[09:07] <overmacht> securityadmin: sorry, i don't have any glue. so far i'm not have trouble with that.
[09:07] <ziroday> indus: it should be
[09:07] <vtec_> Appler, what?
[09:07] <ziroday> Plasma2000: try running wubi.exe, does it give you the option to use the usb creator?
[09:07] <securityadmin> how do i check the log
[09:08] <Appler> vtec_ : Never mind
[09:08] <indus> ziroday: hmm i dont think thats how you install it
[09:08] <securityadmin> when it tells me that it can't mount where is that stored
[09:08] <Plasma2000> @indus + ubottu: thanks for the links and tools names: will have a looka lso to them - i just was surprised by the help stating that the usb creator should be on the cd, but at least I can't see it in the root (also the search doesn't find it)
[09:09] <shell_> hi
[09:09] <indus> Plasma2000: so suppose the usb creator is in the root? (whatever that means) , how exactly do u use it to burn to usb?
[09:09] <securityadmin> any one in the room that can help me mount a ext4 file system on a ext 3 installed linus
[09:09] <shell_> how to setting dsplay
[09:10] <Bruc> hi shell\
[09:10] <Plasma2000> @ziroday: unfortunately it just offers 'demo', 'install inside windows' and 'quit'
[09:10] <Appler> http://siutor_bejewele09.mixxquery.com/index.html?Ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.in%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DSeasonal%2Bchange%2Bcauses%2Bfever%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26aq%3Dt%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial%26client%3Dfirefox-a
[09:10] <ziroday> Plasma2000: yep I'm looking through it now and for the life of me can't find it either. unetbootin should do the trick, ubottu had some other useful links :)
[09:10] <indus> Plasma2000: just do this, go to unetbootin site and download it, then burn to usb from windows xp
[09:10] <indus> Plasma2000: it lets you download any linux distro automatic
[09:11] <ziroday> Plasma2000: or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#UNetbootin%20%28Windows%20or%20Linux%29
[09:11] <shell_> وين العرب
[09:11] <Plasma2000> @indus: according to the ubuntu help it's an applicatino that prepares and copies the ubuntu cd contents to the usb drive and makes it bootable
[09:11] <ziroday> !arabic | shell_
[09:11] <indus> Plasma2000: i would try unetbootin try ziroday's link
[09:11] <indus> indus's
[09:12] <Plasma2000> @ziroday, indus, ubottu: thanks a lot for your help :)
[09:13] <securityadmin> Can any one help me mount a ext4 filesystem on a ext3 version of ubuntu
[09:13] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me...i heard that we can create websites and put in make it public....my department head has asked me to do this for my department site and also for the college website. Can anyone tell me how this can be made possible
[09:13] <indus> Plasma2000: i think its wrongly mentioned it comes on cd, i havent seen it
[09:14] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me...i heard that we can create websites and put in our own servers make it public....my department head has asked me to do this for my department site and also for the college website. Can anyone tell me how this can be made possible
[09:14] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: erm well you need somewhere to host the website for one
[09:14] <indus> Plasma2000: i also recommend using an empty usb to create it, i have had issues booting otherwise
[09:14] <sentencia> hello
[09:14] <securityadmin> Can any one help me mount a ext4 file system on a ext3 version of ubuntu
[09:14] <sentencia> i have a problem with nx machine, i can log via ssh but i cant via nx, it says authentication failed
[09:14] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; i heard that w can put it in our own server
[09:14] <sentencia> i have changed the sshd port by some reason
[09:14] <sentencia> i have changed the port on server.cfg and node.cfg
[09:15] <Plasma2000> @indus: not only the ubuntu help mentiones it's on the ubuntu cdm but also wikipedia (at least the german one) - this is somehow confusing..
[09:15] <sentencia> should i change it in somewhere else?
[09:15] <indus> Plasma2000: which version of live cd u downloaded?
[09:15] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: erm well your server will need a webserver, and you will obviously need a domain
[09:15] <Bruc> is ubuntu good
[09:15] <indus> Plasma2000: wait i have a few 9.04 cd's here, ill check it out 1 sec
[09:15] <securityadmin> PerryArmstrong my recomindation is wiki on creating a web server
[09:16] <securityadmin> and use Ubuntu as the server
[09:16] <Plasma2000> @indus: 9.04, 8.04.3 and 9.10-rc
[09:16] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday, securityadmin; yes i am planning to have a webserver...
[09:17] <dehsetiwahset> hello ppl
[09:17] <dehsetiwahset> how are you
[09:17] <securityadmin> wikipedia on how to create one and use Ubuntu server edition to create it
[09:17] <ziroday> Plasma2000: found it! Take a look at http://people.canonical.com/~evand/usb-creator/karmic/
[09:18] <Bruc> hey deh
[09:18] <securityadmin> then all the team has to do is click links on the company page to get there
[09:18] <indus> Plasma2000: its incorrect, i just checked its not there
[09:19] <indus> Plasma2000: i go edit the wiki
[09:19] <koolhead> hey indus
[09:19] <indus> ya
[09:19] <ziroday> indus: please don't, I believe it will be there for karmic onwards.
[09:19] <securityadmin> cuts out the mess and cost of getting dns
[09:19] <ubuntunewbie2> kenyon: I did modified the font to segoe UI fonts , how to reset it to be default arial and Sans using command line ?
[09:19] <Bruc> hey indus
[09:19] <indus> ok hi to all
[09:19] <ubuntunewbie2> Anyone know how to fix font ? I did modified the font to segoe UI fonts , how to reset it to be default arial and Sans using command line ?
[09:19] <indus> good day
[09:20] <securityadmin> i really need help mounting a ext4 file system any one help please
[09:20] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; we already hosted it in somewhere...i was asked to install a webserver and host it in it
[09:20] <Plasma2000> @ziroday: thanks! - will try it immediately :)
[09:20] <indus> ziroday: well, karmic isnt out yet, and what do you mean i believe?
[09:20] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: okay, well do you have a commercial internet connection with a static IP and port forwarding enabled, or is the server directly connected to the internet and not through a router?
[09:20] <Plasma2000> @indus: ok - will for sure help those coming from Windows wanting to have a look at ubuntu from usb
[09:21] <indus> ziroday: its wrong info and we should correct it
[09:21] <ziroday> indus: you do whatever you want to.
[09:21] <indus> :)
[09:21] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; directly connected to the internet
[09:21] <securityadmin> same concept put links in the company's web page and use login credits to access
[09:21] <pixie_pie> can anyone tell me... is ubuntu 4.3 BSD Unix?
[09:21] <indus> ziroday: iam just removing the line 'available on cd' it isnt
[09:21] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: right, and do you have a commercial internet connection with a static IP?
[09:21] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; what difference does this make?
[09:22] <securityadmin> your ip changes if you don't
[09:22] <securityadmin> have static
[09:22] <pixie_pie> what i'm really wanting to know is if ubuntu supports the _POSIX_SAVED_IDS feature
[09:22] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; what does commercial internet connection mean?
[09:22] <securityadmin> then following links and typing in adresses don't stay constint
[09:22] <securityadmin> static IP high up loads
[09:22] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: well its usually against consumer internet plans terms and conditions to host a webserver. Secondly dynamic IP's make it very difficult to host content, as your IP address is always moving
[09:22] <indus> DONE
[09:23] <indus> bruc did you solve your problem from yesterday?
[09:23] <securityadmin> well not always but it can
[09:23] <securityadmin> there are ways around it though
[09:23] <securityadmin> just gets more complicated
[09:24] <sentencia> someone can give me a clue about my problem?
[09:24] <napster> Is there any fully functional app that can generate instrument sounds...?
[09:24] <ziroday> napster: jokosher?
[09:24] <securityadmin> but trust me wikipedia the webserver and it will get you started
[09:25] <poyntz> how do you disable messages poping up in writer on compiz?
[09:25] <Bruc> hey indus
[09:25] <Bruc> glad u asked....
[09:25] <indus> Bruc hey
[09:25] <securityadmin> well looks like just like every time i try and use you people for help you help every one else but me i wonder why i even try any more
[09:25] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday, securityadmin; i dont know much about this static and dynamic IP...i want to learn more about it...and also if not in the college server i can put it at home...i am directly connected to the internet
[09:25] <poyntz> as in, the comment boxes that tell you what document you're in, etc.
[09:25] <Bruc> i got a seperate drive to just install ubuntu..that how much i like it hehe
[09:26] <indus> bruc good for you :)
[09:26] <Bruc> everytime i install windows on the drive something happens...
[09:26] <Bruc> same drive i mean
[09:27] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: the issue is with a dynamic IP address your IP address is constantly changing, therefore your DNS records will constantly be wrong and people won't be able to connect to your server
[09:27] <Bruc> anyways hard driver are cheap this days..
[09:27] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday, securityadmin; and i like to do this on an ubuntuserver...people usually go for a fedora server saying that it has more security...but i am used to ubuntu
[09:27] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; then how can i get a static IP??
[09:28] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: you usually get a static IP through a commercial internet connection
[09:28] <robin> hello
[09:28] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; you mean a service provider right??
[09:28] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: hosting a server by yourself is very, very complicated. I recommend you look into shared hosting or a VPS instead.
[09:28] <Bruc> hey robin
[09:28] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: yes
[09:29] <richardcavell> When Karmic is final-release, will it be the case that this IRC channel will no longer recommend that users install Jaunty?
[09:30] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; whats that?
[09:30] <zizo_> hi
[09:31] <zizo_> any one there
[09:31] <civciv> Hello, I need some help about emulating a network .exe file.
[09:31] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: what's what?
[09:31] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; shared hosting or VPN??
[09:32] <civciv> How am I supposed to enter the address of the network file to wine? any idea?
[09:32] <FiReSTaRT> richardcavell: this channel will stop supporting jaunty and will switch to supporting karmic.. there might be a legacy support channel but i don't know about it because i keep updating to fresher versions (mostly to get better hardware support)
[09:33] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: shared hosting is where you pay monthly for some space on a web server and host your content. A Virtual Private Server (VPS) is a virtual server which acts as if you completely control it but the actual machine is split into different virtual machines. Both of these options have assorted monthly costs
[09:33] <ziroday> FiReSTaRT: this channel supports all versions of Ubuntu that are not at their end of life (see !eol)
[09:33] <richardcavell> FiReSTaRT: I think this channel will still support Jaunty
[09:33] <ziroday> richardcavell: so yes, we will still support jaunty :)
[09:33] <FiReSTaRT> ziroday: thanks for the correction richardcavell, sorry about the misunderstanding
[09:34] <richardcavell> I'm not doubting that Jaunty will still be supported... I'm asking whether Jaunty will be no longer recommended
[09:34] <ziroday> richardcavell: recommended for what?
[09:34] <FiReSTaRT> ziroday: it's just that this channel is pretty tight on excluding the upcoming releases so i figured it would also go the other way lol
[09:34] <richardcavell> I maintain some instructions for installing Jaunty on Intel-based Macs.  I'm wondering whether my instructions should be deprecated once Karmic is released
[09:35] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; okk but we already have hosted our department site in a hosting service but our department head has asked us to this as an assignment so that we can learn how these things work
[09:35] <PerryArmstrong> ziroday; it was actually my request and he accepted it...
[09:36] <ziroday> PerryArmstrong: right, and most web servers are not hosted on home connections, anyway this has long gone past being ubuntu support so feel free to join me in #ubuntu-offtopic and continue discussing your options
[09:36] <FiReSTaRT> richardcavell: in any case, keep the jaunty instructions.. some people just don't have the nerve to upgrade.. my uncle's a perfect example.. i put jaunty on his desktop machine and had i not extended my european trip, i would have had him keep jaunty for about a year
[09:36] <ziroday> richardcavell: I would have a seperate karmic section if the instructions have changed, but if not sure I would ask the wiki team
[09:36] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[09:37] <satya> i cant see video in youtube,,somebody help me
[09:37] <FiReSTaRT> satya: you need flash
[09:37] <richardcavell> ziroday: the wiki team are a bit hit and miss
[09:37] <prasad> do u have flash installed
[09:37] <richardcavell> I was able to thoroughly edit my instructions because I practised installing on my own Mac
[09:37] <richardcavell> Karmic supports Macs a fair bit better than Jaunty
[09:38] <FiReSTaRT> satya: system, administration, synaptic package manager... type flashplugin into the search box, check the box next to flashplugin-nonfree, click on mark for installation, click on apply and once it's installed you'll be able to watch u2b vids
[09:38] <richardcavell> kernel mode setting, Intel GMA drivers, hotkeys
[09:38] <th1_> does anyone know why karmic updates suddenly are broken w.r.t. authentication? I don't want to install 100 unsigned packages..
[09:38] <EvaLuaTe> i will appearantly have to reinstall windows, as i need it to run some programs that i need at school. If i install it on the same drive with ubuntu (because it appearantly won't install on a external hdd) it will most probably overwrite the mbr. So, my question, is there any possibility, after the installation of windows, to modify the mbr, so that I can dual boot windows and ubuntu, without rein
[09:38] <EvaLuaTe> stalling ubuntu?
[09:39] <satya> FiReSTaRT: thanks:)
[09:39] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: why don't you just run windoze under virtualization.. that's what i did when i needed to run ESRI for school
[09:39] <th1_> EvaLuaTe, boot from the Ubuntu CD
[09:39] <veekram> hey
[09:39] <veekram> any1 here
[09:39] <FiReSTaRT> satya: yqw... i'm assuming it works now? ;)
[09:39] <DJones> !grub | EvaLuaTe
[09:39] <satya> :)
[09:40] <EvaLuaTe> FiReSTaRT: i need to run some graphical applications that appearantly won't run under virtualbox...
[09:40] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: before you decide on a dual-boot config, try virtualization.. google virtual box... that's how i ran windows (as long as you can dedicate enough ram)
[09:40] <EvaLuaTe> DJones: thanks, i'll check that :)
[09:40] <poyntz> Bruc: hey mate, did you say you wanted to know how to turn off tooltips?
[09:40] <poyntz> Bruc: I found out how to do it -http://geekybits.blogspot.com/2007/07/ubuntu-tip-turning-off-tooltips.html
[09:40] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: i was able to dedicate 2 gigs and still have almost 2 gigs for ubuntu which almost never runs more than 1 gig
[09:40] <poyntz> good luck
[09:40] <poyntz> anyhow, i'm out. ciao
[09:40] <zetheroo1> has anyone here upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic already?
[09:40] <EvaLuaTe> FiReSTaRT: ram is not an issue, the graphical part is the problem
[09:41] <th1_> zetheroo1, yes more than 2 months ago :)
[09:41] <barata> how is ubuntu now?
[09:41] <indus> zetheroo1: i have
[09:41] <zetheroo1> th1_: how is it going?
[09:41] <indus> zetheroo1: is good
[09:41] <th1_> its going really well now
[09:41] <zetheroo1> indus: on laptop or desktop?
[09:41] <veekram> laptop
[09:41] <th1_> except suddenly today it can't verify update signatures on the updates..
[09:41] <th1_> zetheroo1, I have it on a desktop and on a netbook (Eee 1000HE)
[09:41] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: ahh ok.. in that case i'd just use supergrub disk to destroy the mbr for the windows box, boot into ubuntu, install grub2 and it'll support everything
[09:42] <indus> zetheroo1: desktop, nvidia graphics , AMD chipset board
[09:42] <indus> zetheroo1: cd rom drive doesnt work, hasnt worked since intrepid
[09:42] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: the previous instruction was for AFTER the windows install's overwriting of the mbr
[09:42] <th1_> zetheroo1, I don't have problem with my DVD+-RW drive
[09:42] <zetheroo1> th1_ , indus, so its pretty stable ... anything not good?
[09:43] <th1_> zetheroo1, nothing major the last couple of weeks
[09:43] <zetheroo1> th1_: is there issues with optical drives?
[09:43] <indus> zetheroo1: all good
[09:43] <indus> zetheroo1: no , its a problem specific to my mobo
[09:43] <zetheroo1> indus: oh ok
[09:43] <th1_> zetheroo1, not for me I was just saying it because indus said so
[09:44] <zetheroo1> indus: any reasons that one should upgrade ? any enhancements to speak of?
[09:44] <zetheroo1> th1_: ^^
[09:44] <indus> zetheroo1: ya its all fine now, sound with pulseaudio also nice according to people
[09:44] <th1_> newer firefox, nicer default theme, etc.. :)
[09:44] <th1_> there are lots of smallish things
[09:44] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: i was doing one dual-boot configuration... grub legacy would make windoze unbootable.. doing fixmbr/fixboot would make ubuntu unbootable... so what i did was boot ubuntu, sudo apt-get install grub-pc and voila.. but hang on i'll dig up the instructions that i used
[09:45] <indus> zetheroo1: its super fast boot, ultra fast shutdown , but otherwise has ext4 file system, disk utility for HDD status, newer packges, empathy as default IM which sucks but anyways
[09:45] <th1_> zetheroo1, you don't get ext4 features if you upgrade from jaunty though
[09:45] <th1_> unless you re-format your disks
[09:45] <indus> zetheroo1: a new choco window border , theme tweaks
[09:45] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-grub-2-on-ubuntu-9.04 but i do have one warning for you so wait for the next message
[09:46] <indus> zetheroo1: nothing spectacular, that will probably come in 10.04
[09:46] <zetheroo1> th1_ , indus: I am already using ext4
[09:46] <th1_> ok
[09:46] <th1_> well also what indus said: faster boot
[09:46] <th1_> but I don't boot that often that it bothers me
[09:46] <th1_> but the splash screen is nicer :)
[09:46] <zetheroo1> th1_ , indus: yeah I could always do with a faster boot - ha
[09:47] <zetheroo1> th1_ , indus: so is empathy worse than pidgin?
[09:47] <indus> zetheroo1: bah its a useless ffeature really, 1 min  saved in a day is nothing really
[09:47] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: both systems were on hd1 (bios settings), but the upgrade-from-grub-legacy script installs grub to hd0 by default.. so i needed to dig it up (it's in /usr/sbin) and edit the hd0 to hd1 (this may be an unnecessary step, but check your menu.lst file to make sure)
[09:47] <th1_> dunno I only use pidgin :)
[09:47] <indus> zetheroo1: its personal choice but i hate it
[09:47] <indus> zetheroo1: its ugly
[09:47] <zetheroo1> th1_ , indus: I recall trying out empathy a while back and went straight back to pidgin
[09:47] <indus> zetheroo1: try it, though, voice/video over msn is promised in future
[09:48] <zetheroo1> th1_ , indus: any idea why the switch?
[09:48] <indus> zetheroo1: iam going back to pidgin too in a day or so
[09:48] <EvaLuaTe> FiReSTaRT: ok, thank you very much :)
[09:48] <th1_> zetheroo1, pidgin is still supported fine
[09:48] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: if your linux is already under hd0,0 or hd0,1 or hd0,whatever, you don't need to edit the script.. if it's under hd1,whatever or hd2,whatever (who knows what sort of a hardware configuration you have), you will need to edit to suit
[09:48] <indus> zetheroo1: just a canonical decision
[09:48] <ziroday> indus: voice and video chat for MSN works in empathy, you just need to use the empathy PPA
[09:48] <ziroday> indus: and it was *not* a canonical decision
[09:48] <indus> ziroday: it doesnt, i have tried
[09:48] <indus> ziroday: with the ppa
[09:48] <ziroday> indus: it does, I have tried.
[09:48] <zetheroo1> ziroday: oh that is a nice feature
[09:49] <indus> ziroday: doessnt for me.
[09:49] <th1_> zetheroo1, probably because of the name - ubuntu admins are suckers for "cozy" names ;) and pidgin = flying rat so ....
[09:49] <EvaLuaTe> FiReSTaRT: i guess my system is actually under sda. Or is that just how ubuntu sees it?
[09:49] <zetheroo1> th1_: hehe ... flying rat? ...
[09:49] <jitender> can't able to run the rsync command
[09:49] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: i know.. grub sees it differently
[09:49] <indus> ziroday: its not perfect, doesnt work for all, thats why it will only make it in in the next release
[09:49] <th1_> zetheroo1, just my derogatory term for pigeons ;)
[09:49] <EvaLuaTe> FiReSTaRT: ohh, ok
[09:49] <zetheroo1> ziroday: do you know of any issues in Jaunty to do with webcam support ... mine was working about 2 kernel updates ago - ha
[09:50] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: hang on a sec, i'll dig up a way to find out by using the grub console :)
[09:50] <ziroday> zetheroo1: nope, sorry
[09:50] <indus> ziroday: i was excited when someone said it works from ppa, but it didnt for me,  what am i missing'
[09:50] <FiReSTaRT> EvaLuaTe: i'm not a grub master but i've gone through enough torture to know a couple of things :P
[09:50] <zetheroo1> th1_: ah ... I like racing pidgeons though ...
[09:50] <jitender> i want to run rsync command
[09:50] <ziroday> indus: I have no idea, sorry.
[09:50] <th1_> zetheroo1, the Skype on my eee works no worse or better than with Jaunty
[09:50] <zetheroo1> ziroday: ok no worries
[09:50] <indus> ziroday: so video/voicce perfectly working for u?
[09:50] <th1_> which is not particularly well but I think it's down to skype not the webcam or driver
[09:50] <ziroday> indus: yes.
[09:51] <indus> ziroday: whats ur msn ? :)
[09:51] <zetheroo1> th1_: well this is definitely something on a kernel level for me ... or drivers ...
[09:51] <EvaLuaTe> FiReSTaRT: here's something i found in the menu.lst file: root        (hd0,0), so it seems it's on hd0
[09:51] <indus> ziroday: i tried it and it showed the icon etc, but the user on other end didnt see my call