[04:39] <biovore> doms_: you install the smbfs package?
[04:39] <biovore> and modprobe smbfs
[04:39] <doms_> not yet
[04:39] <doms_> ok i try it
[04:39] <doms_> do i nit to restart after installing smbfs
[04:39] <sonic> romy:  I've tried that mate, nothing happens at all
[04:40] <roy_> why doesnt ubunto recognizes limewirelinux.rpm
[04:40] <roy_> if its  linux software
[04:40] <_jason> roy_: rpm is redhat package manager
[04:41] <_jason> roy_: did you try frostwire?
[04:41] <romy> try to copy/move  the files to the desktop folder
[04:41] <roy_> so i need to get that manager
[04:41] <roy_> i have al;ready moved them there
[04:41] <_jason> roy_: redhat is a different distribution of linux
[04:41] <roy_> oh i see
[04:42] <dts> I specifically need php 5.1, but it's not in the repository yet, is there an easy way i could get it or do i need to build it from source?
[04:42] <roy_> i am downloading frostwire
[04:42] <jadaz87> Amaranth so i am trying to remove the openofice.org2-help-en-us and now it wants to remove language-support-en openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us ubuntu-live is that a smart idea?
[04:42] <ircbglad> roy_: the package Alien can convert rpm to deb
[04:42] <_jason> roy_: ok, let me know when it finished if you're not sure how to isntall
[04:42] <roy_> yes thanks jason
[04:42] <roy_> i appreciate all your help
[04:42] <doms_> when i grep smbd no out pput
[04:43] <roy_> how do i get that package ircbglad
[04:43] <ircbglad> doms_: then smbd is not running
[04:43] <doms_> how to run it
[04:43] <doms_> how to run it
[04:43] <jabo-> hello
[04:43] <jabo-> is ubuntu the best linux distro
[04:44] <ircbglad> doms_: just type smbd, and it should start up
[04:44] <doms_> command not found
[04:44] <sonic> ahhh, surely someone can help, I dont think its a difficult problem, I just need to move a file from my windows partition to the desktop
[04:44] <doms_> command not found
[04:45] <romy> Hi Yvonne
[04:45] <roy_> so to instal a software it has to be deb jason ?
[04:45] <ircbglad> doms_: then try | /usr/sbin/smbd
[04:45] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, i dont have long but i can try
[04:45] <sonic> thanks mate
[04:45] <roy_> deb is binary right ?
[04:45] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, type sudo -i
[04:45] <Chris_Tucker> sonic then fdisk -l
[04:45] <doms_> no such file on the directory
[04:46] <_jason> roy_: It is recommended you use the repositories which uses deb.  After that, if there is an ubuntu deb that should be ok.
[04:46] <doms_> no such file on the directory
[04:46] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  Thanks, What now?
[04:46] <ircbglad> doms_: type locate smbd to see if it even exists, its sound like you havent installed samba properly
[04:46] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, note the device, /dev/hdXX where XX is a letter and number then mkdir /mnt/tmp
[04:46] <_jason> doms_: you don't have to say everything twice
[04:46] <_jason> roy_: yes, deb is binary
[04:46] <roy_> ok
[04:46] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, mount /dev/hdXX /mnt/tmp  (replace XX with the letter and number
[04:46] <roy_> i understand
[04:46] <doms_> ne effect when i locate smbd
[04:47] <ircbglad> roy_: to get alien I think it is sudo apt-get install alien
[04:47] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, report if that gives an error or success, explain if error
[04:47] <roy_> ok jason the download is finished
[04:47] <_jason> roy_: ok, do you know how to use the terminal?
[04:47] <roy_> yes
[04:47] <roy_> the archive mangaer opened
[04:47] <doms_> hahahaha sori its my fault your right my samba in my newly installed ubuntu i hav not yet install samba sori folks
[04:47] <roy_> but nothing in there
[04:48] <doms_> thanks for conerning
[04:48] <_jason> roy_: no, don't use the archive manager.  Where is the file located now?
[04:48] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  mount /dev/hdXX /mnt/tmp
[04:48] <sonic> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /mnt/tmp busy
[04:48] <sonic> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-hda1
[04:48] <roy_> thanks ircbglad
[04:48] <ircbglad> doms_: np
[04:48] <ircbglad> roy_: np
[04:48] <doms_> thanks anyway
[04:48] <roy_> i dont know
[04:48] <_jason> roy_: actually, before we proceed.  You need java, have you installed java?
[04:48] <roy_> i dont see where it is gone
[04:48] <sonic> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp  I should say
[04:48] <doms_> do i need to restart my pc
[04:48] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, type: cd /tmp/disks-conf-hda1   then type ls
[04:48] <doms_> after installing samba
[04:48] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, see if whats in there looks like the C:\ you see in windows
[04:49] <roy_> no
[04:49] <roy_> i havent
[04:49] <roy_> but i dont know where to find the file
[04:49] <ircbglad> doms_: no, but to be sure just type: ps aux | grep smbd, there should be a line with smbd on it, not counting the line that may show up for grep
[04:49] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  I am in root@Ghost:/tmp/disks-conf-hda1#
[04:49] <sonic> what command shall I type to view contents?
[04:49] <Chris_Tucker> ls
[04:50] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, ls   but dont paste the results, just look at them
[04:50] <_jason> roy_: ok, we'll do that first.  We'll find the file later :)  I'm going to send you a link on how to enable seveas' repository.  You want to enable the java section.  ok?
[04:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell roy_ about javadebs
[04:50] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  yes, that is the contents of my c:
[04:50] <doms_> oo no effect i type grep smbd
[04:50] <doms_> still blinking
[04:50] <tokenbad_> anyone have a page that explains an easy way to share files between ubuntu and windows?
[04:50] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, using cd, find your desktop, you know where its at right?
[04:51] <ircbglad> doms_: you must type "ps aux | grep smbd|
[04:51] <ircbglad> doms_: you must type "ps aux | grep smbd"
[04:51] <ircbglad> minus quotes
[04:51] <doms_> ah soru
[04:51] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  yes, I am in my desktop now (/home/sonic/Desktop)
[04:52] <cjones> does any one know of a list of short cut keys ?
[04:52] <doms_> yes i get a three line
[04:52] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, er, no :/ your windows desktop
[04:52] <sonic> ah
[04:52] <sonic> sorry
[04:52] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, what version of windows is it?
[04:52] <doms_> yes
[04:52] <doms_> perfect thanks people
[04:53] <ircbglad> np
[04:53] <floppyears> hi
[04:53] <cjones> how do you run a app on term with shortcut key strokes ?
[04:53] <floppyears> I have screen running on my ubuntu machine
[04:53] <floppyears> and my other computer uses xterm-colors
[04:53] <floppyears> in TERM
[04:53] <floppyears> but when I ssh to ubuntu the backspace key doesn't work :(
[04:53] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  XP.  The file I want to locate though is in /tmp/disks-conf-hda1/Torrents/  , which is what I want to move to my linux desktop
[04:53] <floppyears> this is a problem with screen
[04:54] <floppyears> can someobdy help me fix it ?
[04:54] <cjones> terminal
[04:54] <floppyears> ?
[04:54] <blind> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:54] <blind> any good FPS games for ubuntu? :P
[04:55] <SpecialBuddy> hey
[04:55] <green_earz>  /quit
[04:56] <blind> you missed.
[04:56] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, cd into /tmp/disks-conf-hda1/Torrents/ and type   ls    noting that linux is sensitive to capitol letters, note the filename(s) you want, and type cp <filename> /home/sonic/Desktop     where <filename> is the name of the file, repeat for any other files, cant do multiple files with one line easily
[04:56] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, if you want EVERYTHING in the Torrents dir you can skip the cp step for a faster one
[04:56] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, which is while in the Torrents directory, cp ./* /home/sonic/Desktop
[04:57] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  excellent, thanks very much for your instructions!
[04:57] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, not a prob, now i get some sleep ;)
[04:58] <CJ__> hello?
[04:59] <NickGarvey> hello!
[04:59] <dager> hey!
[04:59] <NickGarvey> you can boot from extended partitions right?
[04:59] <CJ__> i need some help have i come to the right place?
[04:59] <NickGarvey> yup
[04:59] <CJ__> great! now i hope someone can help me out
[04:59] <NickGarvey> pretty.. dead in here
[04:59] <NickGarvey> !ping
[04:59] <ubotu> pong
[04:59] <PhilKC> !pong
[04:59] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PhilKC
[05:00] <NickGarvey> haha you are quick
[05:00] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: gentoo, I hear?
[05:00] <CJ__> how much do you guys know about ubunto?
[05:00] <CJ__> u
[05:00] <NickGarvey> kingspawn: trying.. its not booting..
[05:01] <bosco> has anyone messed with the timeout for sudo
[05:01] <kingspawn> bosco: yeah.
[05:01] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: oh?
[05:01] <bosco> kingspawn, how do i change it
[05:01] <NickGarvey> kingspawn: yeah.. I think I messed up the boot loader, tried a boot loader off a cd and didn't even see the gentoo partition..
[05:01] <kingspawn> bosco: in /etc/sudoers, using command "sudo visudoers"
[05:01] <megadeth> a chilean?
[05:01] <CJ__> i can't get into my comp i forgot my user id and password for ubuntu is there anyway i can get in and change it or bypass it?
[05:02] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: Ouch. So you leaving us if you get it up and running? :)
[05:02] <NickGarvey> kingspawn: of course not, I use suse now and I am still in here heh
[05:02] <dager> CJ__ Boot from a LiveCD?
[05:02] <kingspawn> CJ__: boot the rescue mode off grub
[05:02] <NickGarvey> kingspawn: (ubuntu didn't work with my wireless card)
[05:02] <CJ__> i tried to boot from the rescue mode it didn't work
[05:02] <NickGarvey> CJ__: what happened?
[05:02] <CJ__> it still asks for login and password
[05:02] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: heheh, I dont actually use Ubuntu either, I just think its a great way to attract attention to the free software-world
[05:03] <kingspawn> CJ__: then a livecd it is
[05:03] <CJ__> i don't have one...it's gone :(
[05:03] <bosco> kingspawn, so what do i change in the file
[05:03] <dager> CJ__: I'd suggest burning a recovery livecd, like Auditor or BackTrack, so you can get your password back pretty easily
[05:03] <yamathan> Hey, for some reason I can't get a GTK+-based application running under either KDE or GNOME.
[05:04] <FennyLAP> can someone help me with a grub install
[05:04] <yamathan> I should imagine that all of the GTK libraries involved are installed, so ...
[05:04] <FennyLAP> im in knoppix trying to get grub installed to the correct drive
[05:04] <FennyLAP> I am at grub> in a sonole
[05:04] <kingspawn> bosco: I suggest "man sudoers" - but what you change is "timestampp_timeout"
[05:04] <FennyLAP> console
[05:04] <CJ__> well i don't think that's the only problem... i've been away at school and i think someone messed with it and nothing i've tried has worked
[05:04] <kingspawn> bosco: "timestamp_timeout"
[05:04] <FennyLAP> I dont know how to find out what drive I want
[05:04] <blind> They wouldn't happen to have a version of GTA for ubuntu, would they? >_>
[05:04] <NickGarvey> CJ__: there is a way.. to get into a root console.. tad tricky though
[05:04] <bosco> kingspawn, there is no timestampp_tomout in my file
[05:04] <kingspawn> blind: ... :)
[05:04] <yamathan> Grand Theft Auto?
[05:04] <eno__> dear Gods of Ubuntu!  Shine on me!
[05:04] <blind> yes
[05:04] <kingspawn> bosco: that means you add it
[05:05] <doms_> same problem
[05:05] <blind> kingspawn, what was that smile for? :P
[05:05] <doms_> ssh <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:05] <doms_> refusef
[05:05] <doms_> why
[05:05] <bosco> oh ok
[05:05] <kingspawn> blind: who knows?
[05:05] <CJ__> can you help me? i'm freaking out :(
[05:05] <NickGarvey> CJ__: http://www.webpronews.com/it/operatingsystems/wpn-22-20040209LostRootPasswordLinux.html
[05:05] <blind> oh ffs. i have to clean my desk.
[05:05] <yamathan> Well, I was trying to prove to a visitor at my house that, yes, Linux'ers have very "special" image/video managers as well as Windows users.
[05:05] <doms_> but i can ping it <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:05] <doms_> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=0.152 ms
[05:05] <yamathan> Unfortunately pornview halted at "autodetecting video driver".
[05:06] <blind> I bought a pair of headphones from walmart for a dollar.
[05:06] <blind> Don't do that
[05:06] <NickGarvey> yamathan: shame..
[05:06] <doms_> but when i type ssh 192.168.100  it says refused
[05:06] <NickGarvey> doms_: are you running a ssh server..
[05:06] <yamathan> I can't seem to find documentation for pornview anywhere.
[05:06] <dager> aside from its suggestive name, pornview is a very good video/image viewer.. dont think its still actively developed though
[05:06] <yamathan> Is it dependent on video drivers I don't have?
[05:06] <CJ__> wow that's a lot of stuff!!!
[05:06] <doms_> even in samba share i cant see my ubuntu box
[05:07] <yamathan> "man pornview" doesn't give me much information at all.
[05:07] <yamathan> The Scourgeforce page doesn't give me much more than >man pornview.
[05:07] <kingspawn> yamathan: mostly, using apps that are no longer developed arent advisable, heh
[05:07] <noiesmo> yamathan, i think from memory that it uses xine
[05:07] <yamathan> True enough.
[05:07] <doms_> even in my samba share i cant see my ubuntu box; how do fix this
[05:07] <Tarantulafudge> So does flash sound work ok yet?
[05:07] <doms_> even in my samba share i cant see my ubuntu box; how do fix this
[05:08] <Tarantulafudge> In firefox, i eman
[05:08] <yamathan> Huh.  But I thought I had virtually every xine plugin and library installed.
[05:08] <Tarantulafudge> i mean*
[05:08] <yamathan> *no "but"
[05:08] <noiesmo> yamathan, the more i think yes xine then xine set to use codecs
[05:08] <yamathan> As in >xine set, or do you mean do set up the codecs through opening xine and whatnot?
[05:08] <doms_> do i need something to change /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:09] <doms_> because they cant see each other my two ubuntu box
[05:09] <CJ__> i managed to change one user name and password through grub but it didn't do anything when it came to the ubuntu login and password
[05:09] <noiesmo> yamathan, I would get codec pack from mplayer essentials put hten in /usr/lib/win32
[05:09] <yamathan> Hmm.
[05:09] <yamathan> Okie dokie.
[05:09] <NickGarvey> CJ__: basicly, you change a boot line temp, and then bam root prompt
[05:09] <noiesmo> yamathan, in xine you can set codec location
[05:10] <yamathan> I was under the assumption I already did that.
[05:10] <CJ__> in english please? lol
[05:10] <noiesmo> yamathan, default is /usr/lib/win32
[05:10] <doms_> iam freaking over two ubuntu box
[05:10] <blind> www.linuxcompatible.org == my new best friend
[05:10] <doms_> coz they cant see each other
[05:10] <yamathan> No, I meant I already have mplayer essentials on here.
[05:10] <slavik> is there a program to give me the readout of what key is being pressed? my lappy has a key to toggle wifi and it doesn't work in dapper (it worked weird in breezy)
[05:11] <noiesmo> yamathan, install xine-ui then configure i think youll find it will do it
[05:11] <bit_doidao> hello all, how to set the video resolution to up than 800x640?
[05:11] <blind> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:11] <yamathan> Okay than.
[05:11] <yamathan> Thanks!
[05:11] <yamathan> *then
[05:11] <noiesmo> yamathan, np
[05:12] <bit_doidao> at the live cd, everythings runned owk, the after install, it only have 800X...
[05:12] <blind> 800x640? that's a weird resolution.
[05:12] <yamathan> I felt like a total dweeb when I read that pornview worked with one hand only and I thought, "Space Ghost will be so much easier to watch!"  XD
[05:12] <blind> but yeah, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:12] <noiesmo> ubotu, tell bit_doidao about res
[05:12] <bit_doidao> blind: i check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and there had the three common was there...
[05:13] <CJ__> hello?
[05:13] <blind> hi
[05:13] <yamathan> xine-ui, right?
[05:13] <noiesmo> yep
[05:14] <iceman> Anyone know how I can MOunt a Unix file system cd and read it ?
[05:14] <bit_doidao> blind: sorry, it was 640x400
[05:14] <blind> 640x400??
[05:14] <blind> or 640x480?
[05:14] <bit_doidao> yes
[05:15] <rukuartic> So how would I wall a message to the entire system?
[05:15] <CJ__> nick?
[05:15] <bit_doidao> blind: 640x480
[05:15] <paloyme> how do i check my kernel version no.?
[05:15] <rukuartic> paloyme: uname -r
[05:15] <paloyme> thank you rukuartic
[05:16] <iceman> How the heck to Mount a UNIX file system cd and access it ? anyone ?
[05:16] <rukuartic> paloyme: No problem ^_^ You can do a whole lot with it too, "man uname"
[05:16] <bit_doidao> ubotu == bot:?
[05:16] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bit_doidao
[05:16] <bit_doidao> cooooooooooooooooooooool
[05:16] <paloyme> how do i update my kernel?
[05:16] <rukuartic> bit_doidao: Heheh... don't abuse it! O-o
[05:17] <earthen> anyone know the ETA on draper final release
[05:17] <_jason> earthen: June 1st
[05:17] <earthen> :)
[05:17] <CJ__> can anyone help me please?
[05:17] <_jason> !helpme
[05:17] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:17] <biovore> earthen: june I think
[05:17] <slavik> rofl
[05:17] <rukuartic> CJ__: Ask aways.
[05:18] <slavik> HP_Administrator: nice nick
[05:18] <rukuartic> earthen: If ya have more questions about dapper, they're welcome in #ubuntu+1
[05:18] <iceman> Windows cannot read this CD... but everythin i have read says linux should be able to ... how to enable UNIX File Support in UBUNTU ?
[05:18] <earthen> can't want, my ferrari laptop is screamming for it
[05:18] <HP_Administrator> slavik: thanks.
[05:18] <slavik> HP_Administrator: how truthful is it?
[05:18] <CJ__> i can't get into my comp because i can't get past the ubuntu login and password
[05:18] <rukuartic> earthen: I'm just wishing my computer was faster. I tried flight 6 live on my faster box. sooo beautiful...
[05:18] <earthen> rukuartic,  is the a form just for draper
[05:18] <tokenbad_> sorry I missed if anyone answered this...but does anyone have a page that explains an easy way to share files between ubuntu and windows?
[05:18] <HP_Administrator> slavik: very on my own hp windows media center...lol
[05:18] <CJ__> i can't remember it and i don't have a disk
[05:18] <paloyme> how do i upgrade my linux kernel?
[05:18] <slavik> hehe
[05:18] <rukuartic> CJ__: Do you know your usrname and password?
[05:18] <paloyme> update i mean
[05:19] <rukuartic> !kernel
[05:19] <kikmalran> algum brasileiro ai?
[05:19] <paloyme> !kernel
[05:19] <earthen> rukuartic, what is flight 6 line?
[05:19] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: ol!
[05:19] <HP_Administrator> Anyone know if I can install ubuntu on a 200 mhz (mmx) laptop?
[05:19] <dager> !popcorn
[05:19] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dager
[05:19] <rukuartic> paloyme: I have no clue...
[05:19] <kikmalran> eu gostaria de uma ajuda!
[05:19] <earthen> live*
[05:19] <paloyme> ok, thenks
[05:19] <HP_Administrator> Also, over network.
[05:19] <CJ__> i can't remember it..... i've been away this is the first time i'm trying to use it in a very long time... it's my old comp
[05:19] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: pvt!
[05:19] <tritium> !br
[05:19] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:19] <rukuartic> earthen: Flight 6 was the 6th alpha of dapper drake, and it was a LiveCD (not life :P)
[05:19] <Madpilot> hi all
[05:19] <iceman_> Shoot how to access UNIX cd on ubuntu
[05:19] <tritium> hi Madpilot
[05:19] <rukuartic> CJ__: Do you have any sensitive data on it?
[05:20] <earthen> rukuartic, O I C
[05:20] <bit_doidao> Wow! Ubotu recognized that kikmalran is a brazilian! ubotu rulez
[05:20] <CJ__> yes that's why i'm trying to get into it
[05:20] <jadaz87> hello everyone so i am trying to remove the openofice.org2-help-en-us with aptitude purge and now it wants to remove language-support-en openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us ubuntu-live is that a smart idea?
[05:20] <iceman> modprobe ufs; mount -t ufs -o ufstype=nextstep-cd /dev/cdrom /mnt/whatever
[05:20] <Madpilot> bit_doidao, actually, tritium triggered the bot to give the brazillian one
[05:20] <slavik> jadaz87: why remove?
[05:20] <earthen> rukuartic,  I have had a friend of mine trying to help me install gentoo and after 4 weeks and it's still not working I'm getting a little fustrated
[05:20] <rukuartic> jadaz87: Why on earth wouldn't you want help? :O I mean, thats so essential!!!! /sarcasm
[05:21] <rukuartic> earthen: Live CD's are friendly
[05:21] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: pode falar :)
[05:21] <yamathan_> Hmm.
[05:21] <Inner|RE> Gentoo is hard to install
[05:21] <yamathan_> I can't seem to get xine-ui to do anything.
[05:21] <kikmalran> eu instalei o ubuntu gostaria de umas dicas...!
[05:21] <NickGarvey> !es
[05:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:21] <jadaz87> slavik rukuartic removing packages off of live cd
[05:21] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: vamos conversar no pvt....
[05:21] <kikmalran> ok
[05:22] <rukuartic> jadaz87: What now? Removing packages from a Live CD?
[05:22] <slavik> what for? it's a livecd
[05:22] <HP_Administrator> Sorry, totally new, but which is latest hoary, dapper, or breezy?
[05:22] <lutra> HP_Administrator: breezy
[05:22] <rukuartic> HP_Administrator: Stable is Breezy
[05:22] <lutra> HP_Administrator: dapper is in the development
[05:22] <NickGarvey> dapper is beta
[05:22] <rukuartic> HP_Administrator: Next is Dapper
[05:22] <HP_Administrator> lutra: Thanks
[05:22] <earthen> rukuartic, I have Ubuntu on 2 of my desktops, I just got the new AMD 64 Acer Ferrari laptop but i fugure I wanted to wait for draper to install it
[05:22] <HP_Administrator> et al
[05:22] <iceman> anyone know how to copy read only files from a cd
[05:23] <iceman> wow got the unix cd loaded
[05:23] <rukuartic> earthen: Good idea. You could try a live CD though. What it does is loads itself into your RAM, so as soon as you shutdown and reboot the computer, it restores to your hard drive
[05:23] <rukuartic> earthen: Nothing changes, in essence
[05:23] <rukuartic> iceman: "mv /dir/to/file /dir/to/new/place
[05:23] <kikmalran> bit_doidao pvt-me
[05:23] <rukuartic> iceman: Then might need to chmod/chown it.
[05:24] <_jason> earthen: how come? you can just upgrade on that day (or try the beta now)
[05:24] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: mais pra onde?!
[05:24] <CJ__> the only thing i've managed to change is the root user login and password but it's still asked for an ubuntu login and password i can't get past it
[05:24] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: digita: /join #ubuntu-br
[05:24] <tritium> bit_doidao: english here please
[05:24] <slavik> anyone recommend any games?
[05:24] <iceman> rukuartic it's a cd ... can i drag and drop the files ?
[05:24] <rukuartic> iceman: That works as well :P
[05:24] <rukuartic> iceman: I work mainly from a console so
[05:24] <earthen> rukuartic, O i know about the live cd i'v actully had it running for a few days on the breezy live cd I even did the updates and installed the ati 3d drivers and wifi stuff  it turned off one day when i left the power unpluged and the battery went dead LOL
[05:25] <bit_doidao> tritium: sorry, new user, im trying to send him to ubuntu-br or talk at pvt. really sorry :)
[05:25] <yamathan_> No luck with pornview.
[05:25] <tritium> bit_doidao: no problem at all :)
[05:25] <iceman> I'm still learning command line ... trying to copy the NeXTSTEP cd rom files ...
[05:25] <rukuartic> CJ__: It'd be understandable if you forgot your password, but its very suspicious that you forgot your username
[05:25] <iceman> How to mount my fat32 harddrive ..
[05:25] <rukuartic> !fat32
[05:25] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:25] <CJ__> i haven't used this comp in like 4 years
[05:25] <earthen> _jason,  I don't knw really i just like a new install when w new version comes out
[05:26] <rukuartic> CJ__: What version of Ubuntu is it running again?
[05:26] <iceman> rukuartic ... will slave it in xc and copy the Nextstep frile from it
[05:26] <iceman> nexer have mastered samba
[05:26] <CJ__> 5.04 horay hedgehog
[05:27] <Aqutavia> anyone know what the minimal ammount of video memory is required to run the latest verson of ubuntu live cd? my old laptop has 2.5mb
[05:27] <rukuartic> CJ__: And you haven't used it for about four years?
[05:27] <Illnor> Hi, is it possible to change my 64 bit install to a 32 bit one without totally wiping out everything?
[05:27] <CJ__> well probably not that long...that was a gross exageration
[05:28] <CJ__> it's been awhile though
[05:28] <iceman> rukuartic i'm just happy at this point to get access to NeXTSTEP Operating system cd ...
[05:28] <jadaz87> rukuartic slavik live cd customization
[05:28] <earthen> rukuartic,  one thing I'd like to get working is LIVE Cd on my thumdrive but where I can save settings
[05:28] <CJ__> i let a friend of mine use it and now it's all screwed up
[05:28] <jadaz87> rukuartic slavik trying to make it small as possible i am coming out with a microubuntu
[05:28] <CJ__> i just got it back and i can't get into it
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Illnor,  ya could just backup your /home -  but no easy way to do wha tyou want.
[05:29] <earthen> jadaz87,  will that install on a thumdrive
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Aqutavia,  i ran ubuntu on a Pent100 laptop. with very little video ram. (i forget how much)  ya could always become a Console Commando!
[05:30] <rukuartic> CJ__: Hmm. Well my guess is since Hoary came out in 2005, You're not telling the complete truth. Fact is, we can't help you login if you don't know the user, OR password. At least I can't.
[05:30] <iceman> wow access to Nextstep files ...:)
[05:31] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> hello everybody
[05:31] <iceman> The original Apple Unix which evolved to become OSX
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> i thought they used BSD
[05:31] <Aqutavia> dr_willis: my problem is that i cant seem to get live cd to boot propory on my hp omnibook 4150. the LCD is bad... and im using the video ouptput on the laptop to view it on a CRT.
[05:31] <jadaz87> earthen hopefully i will get it down to being able to be on a 256MB thumbdrive with room for documents, etc.
[05:31] <jadaz87> they do use bsd
[05:31] <cafuego> Dr_Willis: they did, freebsd
[05:32] <CJ__> i'm telling the truth nothing is working on this thing...i have a new comp this one is older..i knew it was a mistake to dl this stupid thing on here.....now my comp is useless
[05:32] <Aqutavia> dr_willis boot improporly i mean... screen resolution in gui is incorrect. and looks like scambled nonescense.
[05:32] <earthen> jadaz87,  that would be sweet and should do nicely on my 1gig drive
[05:32] <iceman> NeXTSTEP was the original BSD code .... It was NeXTSTEP "Next computers" original OS ... the OS which helped create the world wide web ...
[05:32] <cafuego> OSX is a weird version of freebsd and KDE, with the ugly parts removed ;-)
[05:32] <jadaz87> earthen yes very so :-)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Aqutavia,  that could be a driver issue.
[05:33] <iceman> NextStep was the Internets Foundation.... It started in Next Operating systemmm "Steve Jobs" Company when he left Apple
[05:33] <Aqutavia> dr_willis what are the steps i should take in attempting to fix this issue?
[05:33] <HP_Administrator> Can anyone point me to instructions on how to net-install ubuntu??
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[05:33] <ubotu> well, fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:33] <NickGarvey> !netboot
[05:33] <ubotu> I guess netboot is a method of installing Ubuntu over a network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[05:33] <rukuartic> CJ__: You still have your windows install CD?
[05:33] <CJ__> yeah
[05:34] <Aqutavia> dr_willis i tryed sudo "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in the console to change some settings. but it didnt seem to fix anything.
[05:34] <HP_Administrator> I like bots
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Aqutavia,  may want to google for the exact laptop and 'liniux' and see if anyone else has had any problems..
[05:35] <Aqutavia> dr_willis is there something like a "safe mode" where it starts the gui in a verry low resolution?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Aqutavia,  it could be your monitor settings are wrong and not the video card swettings
[05:35] <CJ__> i have my windows cd yes...why?
[05:36] <Aqutavia> im using a 17" ctl monitor.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Aqutavia,  not really. :P  X is just one of many programs..  the console is the difinitive safe mode
[05:36] <Illnor> I have a dual boot between kubuntu64 and xp32.. when i start in kubuntu the screen is shifted a bit to the right.. how do i get it to be in the same spot as the xp os?
[05:36] <rukuartic> CJ__: If linux ain't your thing, you can go back.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Illnor,  on a CRT monitor?
[05:36] <CJ__> really? how? this comp won't even boot up
[05:36] <iceman> Wish I could run the next step floppy from inside Linux and remaster it
[05:36] <Illnor> no, flat Viewsonic VG700 17in
[05:36] <rukuartic> CJ__: Ok, so you've gone from you can't login, to you can't even boot?
[05:37] <Aqutavia> the reason i have to use an external display is cuz the invernter is bad on the lcd.
[05:37] <CJ__> i can't boot up the comp past the login and password...therefore i can't get into anything
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Illnor,  hmm.. never noticed any issues like that with lcd's -  seen it with CRT's and not using the same refresh rates..  not sure where you shoudl even begin.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Login: is booted up
[05:38] <iceman> God how to Install NeXTSTEP ...
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:38] <Illnor> well, i'm sure its about the different FV and FH values
[05:38] <Illnor> because I can check them, and they are indeed different for XP and ubuntu.. but even if I alter the xorg.conf, it doesn't listen to the values i put in
[05:38] <rukuartic> CJ__: You can do this. Grab another drive, install a OS that can read ext3. Grab your files, or burn to a CD and move to an OS you're more comfortable with
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Illnor,  you are restarting X after changing the file?
[05:40] <damian_> Hi can someone gfill me in on why dvd's play slow and freeeze even for 30 seconds at a time and why ripping a cd takes 4 hours i know theres a setting i have to change dma or something ive done it before just cant figure it out now
[05:40] <Illnor> ctl alt backspace right
[05:40] <CJ__> i have no idea how to do that.......i can't even remember a login and password let alone do that...
[05:40] <jerware> ever hear of a bat wing?
[05:40] <blind> LOL
[05:40] <blind> it's so veiny!
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> !dma
[05:40] <jerware> lmao
[05:40] <Illnor> i've also noticed that ubuntu seems to view the internet slower than xp.. any way to fix that ?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:41] <blind> illnor, i don't have that problem. i've noticed a better connection speed on ubuntu, actually.
[05:41] <themachine> view the internet rather fast on ubuntu
[05:41] <themachine> I*
[05:41] <blind> I hit 700kb/s on a torrent. I was so happy :D
[05:41] <damian_> thats the doco thanks dr_willis
[05:42] <NickGarvey> blind: nice.. I hit 450 and I was happy heh
[05:42] <blind> NickGarvey, I was ecstatic.
[05:42] <rukuartic> CJ__: If you're really concerned about your files, you need to contact someone who can recover your data for you, unless someone here knows how to get username's and passwords.
[05:42] <Illnor> isn't there also some "trick" to get ubuntu to boot faster.. basically making all the startup processes go at once rather than one after the other
[05:43] <iceman> Now how to Read a UNIX floppy ?
[05:43] <rukuartic> iceman: mountfd I think
[05:44] <rukuartic> Illnor: I remember reading something about that. I'd be much appreciated if you can find a link.
[05:45] <Illnor> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[05:45] <iceman> rukuartic floppy is already mounted ? wonder if i'll have to unmount and remount ?
[05:45] <rukuartic> Illnor: Thanks
[05:45] <rukuartic> iceman: I've never done a whole lot with that :P
[05:46] <iceman> Copy the dang NeXTSTEP files to a Harddrive... Cant get it installed ... But i want it moved where I can access it from VMWARE and QEMU ....
[05:47] <iceman> Might be able to Emiulate it
[05:47] <CJ__> so there's no way to reset my ubuntu login and password?
[05:47] <_jason> CJ__: there is
[05:48] <damian_> offtopic: anyone have the mac os tiger x86 vmware images and wanna send or upload somewhere
[05:48] <specialbuddy> can anyone help me out with scripts
[05:48] <rukuartic> _jason: He doesn't know his login/pw..
[05:48] <_jason> CJ__: you don't know your username?
[05:48] <_jason> CJ__: are you ``ok'' with the command line?
[05:48] <Elly> hey guys
[05:48] <damian_> sup
[05:48] <Elly> how do I install the Sun JVM on ubuntu? there doesn't appear to be an apt package
[05:48] <CJ__> i can't remember it i made it different so no one else would know it and then i forgot it
[05:48] <Nurie> hai
[05:48] <rob> !java
[05:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:49] <Nurie> hai
[05:49] <Elly> !javadebs
[05:49] <damian_> Elly java is available enable all the restricted repositories in synaptic refresh then search "blackdown"
[05:49] <specialbuddy> does anyone know how to make a script to tell if someone is running vnc
[05:49] <Nurie> hai
[05:50] <Nurie> haui
[05:50] <rukuartic> specialbuddy: "ps aux | grep vnc"
[05:50] <specialbuddy> can you do that for specific users though
[05:52] <Nurie> hai
[05:52] <NickGarvey> hello
[05:52] <HP_Administrator> Can I start the linux kernal with loadlin.exe?
[05:54] <cyphase> :O
[05:54] <cyphase> omg
[05:54] <cyphase> http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computers.html
[05:54] <CJ__> i think i'm gonna give up on this and just get rid of the comp i'll have to deal with the loss
[05:54] <cyphase> this can't be real..
[05:54] <zyth> Linux: The Deadly Communist threat to capitalism!
[05:54] <cyphase> lol
[05:54] <rukuartic> CJ__: Your choice... You can save your files but it just takes a litle work.
[05:55] <rukuartic> specialbuddy: Yep, just add another line in there "| grep <username>
[05:55] <cyphase> linux does more for capitalism then windows by far
[05:55] <zyth> PPC Question: Is ubuntu going to run faster than MacOS X on a g3?
[05:55] <rukuartic> Shelly the Republican's generally good o-o
[05:55] <CJ__> i don't have anyone that can help me.......and i can't do it.....i can't even remember a simple login and password
[05:55] <nomasteryoda> zyth, i'll bet it does...
[05:55] <zyth> CJ__, boot in single user mode.
[05:55] <specialbuddy> thanks
[05:55] <_jason> CJ__: please join me in -offtopic, that link is hilarious
[05:56] <_jason> cyphase: please join me in -offtopic, that link is hilarious
[05:56] <_jason> CJ__: sorry, name error
[05:56] <specialbuddy> I need to make a script that where I can type ./vncanyone and it will determine if they are using it or not
[05:57] <CJ__> how do i boot in single mode......god i'm confused by all of this... i'm not real computer literate
[05:57] <penus> ubuntu install cd wont let me resize the ntfs patitions
[05:57] <zyth> CJ__, at the main prompt, when you boot where it says Boot: type 'linux single'
[05:57] <narg> is there any reason that in a breezy server installation, /etc/cron.daily doesn't run a script in it?
[05:57] <shizzz> has anyone had a chance to load the server version of ubuntu?
[05:58] <Kyral> narg: because there is nothing to run?
[05:58] <zyth> shizzz, yes
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> shizzz,  i did once.. by mistake.. :P
[05:58] <shizzz> how is it?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> i reinstalled the normal.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> lol..
[05:58] <zyth> shizzz, linuxy.  with no gui :)
[05:58] <narg> Kyral: ? The script is valid...
[05:58] <Kyral> narg: eh? Placeholder?
[05:58] <shizzz> it it just like the desktop version but with more admin features
[05:58] <mr> ubuntu install cd wont let me resize the ntfs patitions
[05:58] <CJ__> ok then what?
[05:58] <shizzz> really
[05:58] <shizzz> no gui
[05:58] <Kyral> BYW, nothing wrong with no GUI :P
[05:58] <specialbuddy> mr I don't think you can
[05:58] <zyth> mr: that's cause writing to NTFS and messing with it is baaaad.
[05:58] <narg> Kyral: what do you mean?
[05:58] <Kyral> narg: what script is there?
[05:59] <Kyral> narg: /etc/cron.daily is a directory
[05:59] <narg> Kyral: one I made; its just a common sh script.
[05:59] <shizzz> zyth are you serious no gui
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> True Linux Snobs consider the console a gui. :P
[05:59] <shizzz> thats weird
[05:59] <zyth> shizzz, not by default, it IS the server mode
[05:59] <specialbuddy> mr, install and use gparted or try Partition magic
[05:59] <Kyral> narg: you need to chmod +x is
[05:59] <shizzz> ah
[05:59] <Kyral> it evem
[05:59] <zyth> Dr_Willis, I run X via AAlib ;)
[05:59] <narg> Kyral: yes, my script is IN cron.daily, and its executable.
[05:59] <shizzz> is there a gui if ya activate it
[05:59] <KirbyKing> Does anyone know how I can find the name of my sound card?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> AAquake !
[05:59] <Madpilot> shizzz, the server & desktop versions both have the same admin features available...
[05:59] <Kyral> narg: then I dunno
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> aaxine!
[05:59] <KirbyKing> I dont know how to navigate thru these menus and such..
[05:59] <zyth> shizzz, sure.  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:59] <Kyral> narg: try making it touch a file
[05:59] <narg> Kyral: do I need to chown it to cron?
[06:00] <shizzz> are you sure Madpilot
[06:00] <Kyral> narg: no
[06:00] <Kyral> root maybe
[06:00] <earthen> shizzz, most linux server have no gui
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> KirbyKing,  'sudo lspci | less'
[06:00] <mr> helllllllllllll...no last time i tried partition magis it damaged my othere ntfs drive now im still trying to fix it
[06:00] <KirbyKing> Thanks
[06:00] <Kyral> shizzz: like my Xen server
[06:00] <shizzz> yeah i know but ubuntu is sorta getting futuristic
[06:00] <Kyral> X is just needless overhead on a server
[06:00] <earthen> shizzz,  it's a waist or resorces
[06:01] <Madpilot> shizzz, all the terminal commands work in the desktop versions just like they do in the server version
[06:01] <Kyral> then again I run ArchLinux on my desktop and laptop :P
[06:01] <shizzz> yeah but for admin routines it should be fine then disable them
[06:01] <specialbuddy> yeah the same thing happen to me but that's your best bet
[06:01] <specialbuddy> or gparted
[06:01] <batWing> a bat wing is when one pulls and stretches his ball bag out nice and flat.  veiny!!
[06:01] <earthen> shizzz, most servers are ment to be set up an put in a corner someplace and hardly tuched
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu really kicks booty - compared to the other distos ive tried on my laptop
[06:01] <batWing> xD like a bat wing
[06:01] <zyth> earthen, I use FreeBSD for those.  rock solid.
[06:01] <specialbuddy> but if you have windows on the ntfs drive then it probably won't work
[06:01] <shizzz> so the two kernals are have the same functionality exepct for performance
[06:01] <shizzz> im not sure about that
[06:01] <Kyral> Eh right now I don't like Ubuntu honestly, does too much for me lol
[06:01] <zyth> shizzz, it's just what programs you run on it.
[06:02] <zyth> that's it.
[06:02] <specialbuddy> only way to resize partition with windows is with Partition Magic I think
[06:02] <earthen> zyth, I haven't used FreeBSD yet but i've heard good things about it
[06:02] <Kyral> like "WTF!? I don't have RAID! Why is RAID services starting?>!
[06:02] <shizzz> i think that there are some other differences
[06:02] <zyth> Kyral, got SATA?
[06:02] <Kyral> zyth: SATA != RAID
[06:03] <zyth> Kyral, yep, but that'd be why it's starting...
[06:03] <earthen> zyth, I've just replaced all of the gatway servers at the local schools where I work with Ubuntu servers
[06:03] <Kyral> I run my SATA HD quite fine without RAID starting
[06:03] <zyth> Kyral, then remove it from your init.
[06:03] <HP_Administrator> what is /dev/rd/0 considered to be?
[06:03] <Kyral> zyth: its a pain on Ubuntu really
[06:03] <zyth> earthen, cool :)
[06:03] <zyth> Kyral, it's one # in a config file.  how hard is that? :P
[06:03] <earthen> zyth,  does danguardian run on FreeBSD?
[06:03] <zyth> earthen, I have no idea, sorry
[06:04] <mr> the first tme i shrunk my ntfs partition on computer1 then i tried to do it agin with the same ubuntu cd and it dident let me first thing i tried was that partition magic now windows wont boot not happening on thios computer any other ideas
[06:04] <Kyral> zyth: ArchLinux's rc.conf is one of the best things in terms of module and bootscript management IMO
[06:04] <earthen> zyth, thats a great program for schools
[06:04] <zyth> Kyral, never messed with it, I'll have to look at it some time.
[06:04] <Kyral> zyth: the rc.conf? You almost HAVE to in Arch
[06:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell batWing about ircrules
[06:04] <paloyme> how do you know if your kernel headers are installed?
[06:04] <earthen> zyth, it's a web and porn filter
[06:04] <shizzz> zyth are you trying to adjust your ntfs partition from within side ubuntu?
[06:04] <paloyme> !kernel
[06:04] <zyth> shizzz, UHHH NO.
[06:04] <zyth> er uhh no
[06:05] <Kyral> JFS rules BTW :P
[06:05] <zyth> shizzz, I have a Mac.  No NTFS for me.
[06:05] <shizzz> ah
[06:05] <yamathan> Hmm.
[06:05] <specialbuddy> well I don't think you can use ubuntu to resize ntfs
[06:05] <Kyral> oh hey nalioth -ELATE
[06:05] <shizzz> mac os x
[06:05] <shizzz> ?
[06:05] <Nurie> haui
[06:05] <yamathan> I came in here earlier because pornview wasn't working properly and I didn't know why.
[06:05] <nalioth> Kyral: ?
[06:05] <zyth> Darwin Kyles-Computer.local 7.9.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0: Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh powerpc
[06:05] <zyth> yep.
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Ive resized ntfs with the gentoo installer - i think
[06:05] <TokenBad>  j
[06:05] <Kyral> nalioth: dunno felt like saying hi :P
[06:05] <Nurie> hai
[06:05] <nalioth> specialbuddy: yes you can resize ntfs with ubuntu
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> a long time ago
[06:05] <yamathan> I can't remember the advice that was given to me.
[06:05] <shizzz> hwo do you like it. my gf has an ibook
[06:06] <rukuartic> Hey, to clarify that? The link someone posted about shellytherepublican and linux was bogus.
[06:06] <specialbuddy> I don't think you can with something on it
[06:06] <shizzz> im thinking of getting one myself
[06:06] <nalioth> !offtopic
[06:06] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:06] <zyth> sorry nalioth
[06:06] <Kyral> What about FileSystem Wars?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> it was on my new laptop.. :P first day.. hadent been running an hr.. and i was putting linux on it.
[06:06] <Nurie> hai
[06:06] <shizzz> i heard that you can actually boot up windows xp, mac os x and linux from a mac os x machine
[06:06] <Madpilot> Kyral, -offtopic for those too :P
[06:07] <shizzz> zyth have you heard of that new hack
[06:07] <mr> specialbuddy thats just it the first time i tried to resize it was with the ubuntu install cd and it worked
[06:07] <Nurie> hai
[06:07] <Kyral> Nurie: Hai
[06:07] <specialbuddy> I don't know then
[06:08] <specialbuddy> Partition Magic worked good for me until I did a dual boot and then it messed it up so I couldn't use it anymore on the harddrive
[06:08] <paloyme> how do you know if your kernel headers are installed?
[06:08] <shizzz> so is anyone running the jfs
[06:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell paloyme about headers
[06:08] <paloyme> thenks
[06:09] <shizzz> i was wondering if you can upgrade from ext3 to ibms jfs without reinstalling the entire system
[06:09] <nalioth> shizzz: probably not
[06:09] <shizzz> yeahi didnt think so
[06:10] <mr> hey is the g in gnome silent
[06:10] <shizzz> you can upgrade from ext2 to ext 3 inplace but thats about it
[06:10] <Madpilot> mr, that seems to depend on who you talk to
[06:10] <Madpilot> ;)
[06:10] <mr> linus travelds
[06:11] <shizzz> hey, nalioth how long have you been playing with ubuntu
[06:11] <nalioth> shizzz: since warty was a glimmer
[06:12] <Nurie> hai
[06:12] <shizzz> have you had any experience with other distros
[06:12] <nalioth> shizzz: i have used several different distros. join me in #ubuntu-offtopic for more on this, if you like
[06:12] <HP_Administrator> Does anyone know which device /dev/rd/0 is?
[06:12] <shizzz> sure
[06:13] <shizzz> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:13] <eod_punk> hello all, I am new to ubuntu (just installed today) I'm having a hard time figuring how to update firefox to the current version
[06:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eod_punk about firefox15
[06:14] <eod_punk> nalioth: thank you
[06:14] <encKe`> apt-get moo
[06:15] <blazemonger> i just installed ubuntu dapper
[06:16] <slavik> blazemonger: welcome to the light side :D
[06:16] <VR_> breezy rules, c'mon
[06:16] <eod_punk> I did as well blazemonger
[06:16] <blazemonger> slavik:the only thing that's crased on me so far is prboom hehhe
[06:16] <blazemonger> it also fixed a bug where my mouse cursor used to turn all black
[06:17] <slavik> prboom?
[06:17] <_jason> eod_punk: the link nalioth gave you is not needed on dapper
[06:17] <slavik> blazemonger: th cursor thing might've been app specific ...
[06:17] <slavik> default SDL cursor is all black I think
[06:17] <blazemonger> it wasnt app specific
[06:17] <blazemonger> it was in ubuntu itself no other distro did that to me
[06:17] <Nurie> hi
[06:17] <slavik> oh, ok
[06:17] <eod_punk> _jason: ok?
[06:17] <blazemonger> slavik:dapper seems pretty stable for being a beta
[06:18] <basura> you know if ubuntu have a distro to medical care?
[06:18] <_jason> eod_punk: dapper uses firefox1.5 is what I am trying to say
[06:18] <penusomatic> hi every one im Linus Torvalds and my penus is standing tall ageinst microsoft and my passionate slave bill gates
[06:18] <zyth> I expect Linux can spell 'penis' ;)
[06:19] <basura> penusomatic is a stupid
[06:19] <Sear> www.nextpicturez.com
[06:19] <_jason> !ops
[06:19] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[06:19] <blazemonger> how long have you beeen using dapper?
[06:19] <nalioth> !dapper
[06:19] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:20] <slavik> me?
[06:20] <Madpilot> penusomatic, change the nick to something more pleasant, please
[06:20] <slavik> for a few days now
[06:20] <penusomatic> penus penus penus penus penus
[06:20] <eod_punk> so basical the next version of ubuntu will not need to be updated for firefox?
[06:21] <_jason> eod_punk: ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months and then provides security updates only.  There is also a backports project, but not every package can be safely backported from the development version.
[06:21] <slavik> _jason: there should be an anjuta 2.0.1 backport :P
[06:22] <_jason> eod_punk: that is why, in breezy, firefox1.5 is not in the repositories
[06:22] <eod_punk> I am correct in thinking it still needs updated to 1.5 right?
[06:22] <_jason> eod_punk: are you using breezy or dapper?
[06:22] <Madpilot> eod_punk, Dapper will have 1.5.x by default
[06:23] <eod_punk> breezy
[06:23] <rukuartic> I'm out for tonight
[06:23] <rukuartic> later guys!
[06:23] <nalioth> eod_punk: if you use ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake, you do not need to update firefox
[06:23] <_jason> eod_punk: ok, sorry then.  I thought you told blazemonger you were also using dapper.  But if you are using breezy, then if you want 1.5 you do have to follow the wiki isntructions
[06:24] <steizi> anyone know much about writing to NTFS drive?
[06:24] <GTroy> eod_punk: it's easy, just drag and drop the boxed text to terminal
[06:24] <slavik> steizi: it is unsafe and is not encouraged
[06:24] <GTroy> (in order)
[06:25] <steizi> i got a NTFS drive that windows can't read but linux can
[06:25] <eod_punk> thanks everyone I'm reading the wiki now on the update
[06:25] <nalioth> steizi: sounds like you've got trouble
[06:25] <steizi> hahah well ftp to my XBOX and back seems to be my only option..
[06:25] <TokenBad> well for those that tried to help me get to transfer files between windows and ubuntu...over a network...I found it easier to set up a ftp on each machine and ftp in to get the files...using the internal ips...speed is fast...and no hastle of setting up samba and webmin or anything
[06:26] <steizi> i am new to ubuntu any hints ?
[06:26] <Trisophile> Yooooo
[06:26] <benplaut> !tell steizi about wiki
[06:26] <jerware> can ip tables get the job done as any firewall appliance?  such as a cisco pix
[06:27] <steizi> very new.. hehehe
[06:27] <jerware> i mean can ip tables provide as much security than a cisco pix firewall?
[06:27] <jerware> not in the context of processing power.
[06:27] <scotiab> Is there a utility installed by default on ubuntu that will let me burn files to dvds?
[06:27] <nalioth> jerware: yes iptables is a "firewall"
[06:27] <paloyme> how do i update my linux kernel
[06:27] <paloyme> ?
[06:27] <nalioth> jerware: iptables is as good as the ruleset you put into it
[06:28] <jerware> ok i guess i dont need to purchase one of those expensive cisco ones.
[06:28] <basura> some boddy know what notebook should i purchased?
[06:28] <basura> some boddy know what notebook should i purchase?
[06:28] <jerware> get an IBM
[06:29] <jerware> a linux certified notebook
[06:29] <basura> ibm?
[06:29] <jerware> hold up
[06:29] <jerware> i have some links for good note books
[06:29] <basura> good
[06:29] <basura> thats what i asked
[06:29] <basura> xD
[06:29] <slavik> hmm
[06:30] <jerware> aww the web server is down
[06:30] <basura> shit
[06:30] <nalioth> basura: please watch your language in here  :)
[06:30] <jerware> google for linux certified IBM's i  have seen em and they're nice
[06:30] <jmg> anyone know how i could uninstall the dependencies of kubuntu-desktop? i did apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop, but some of those are required by ubuntu as well
[06:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell basura about laptop
[06:30] <basura> nalioth why?
[06:30] <jadaz87> !tell basura about conduct
[06:30] <basura> i dont see something worne
[06:31] <jadaz87> !tell basura about language
[06:31] <nalioth> basura: because this is not a barnyard or brothel, and we try to maintain civility for all here
[06:31] <donpachi> basura means trash in spanish
[06:31] <jmg> cool
[06:31] <basura> shit
[06:31] <basura> my english is really bad?
[06:31] <jmg> basura: your english is fine they are objecting to the use of "shit"
[06:32] <nalioth> jmg: there is no need for that
[06:32] <basura> ?
[06:32] <nalioth> basura: please be civil with your language here
[06:32] <paloyme> !make
[06:32] <ubotu> paloyme: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:32] <basura> nalioth i dont know why
[06:32] <jmg> basura: your english is fine they are objecting to the use of "shit". it is a blacklisted word
[06:32] <basura> uhhhm
[06:32] <basura> oooohh
[06:32] <basura> demd
[06:32] <basura> ok xD
[06:33] <basura> sorry
[06:33] <jmg> :)
[06:33] <jadaz87> !tell paloyme about compile
[06:33] <jmg> np
[06:33] <Madpilot> !enter
[06:33] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:33] <jmg> !tell basura about language
[06:33] <basura> uhm
[06:33] <basura> leave alone
[06:33] <jmg> ok :)
[06:34] <paloyme> the sudo command is only unique only to ubuntu?
[06:34] <basura> well the question is, what kind of proccesor shoudl i purchase
[06:34] <nalioth> paloyme: it works on any unix
[06:34] <jmg> paloyme: on debian you may apt-get install sudo
[06:34] <OrTigaS> magandang hapon
[06:34] <Cloud_tm> HELLO EVERYONE, QUESTION: Whenever I try to install with codeweavers crossover, it get a message saying I need to "update the installer wrapper" or something along those lines with me having to update an installer When i click ok, it quickly says could not connect to server. How do I download them?
[06:35] <jmg> basura: any pentium or athlon will run ubuntu really well
[06:35] <paloyme> install sudo? its installable?
[06:35] <Madpilot> basura, AMD or Intel, doesn't seem to matter
[06:35] <paloyme> sori for such a noobie comment
[06:35] <OrTigaS> how to install my printer HP Deskjet 640c
[06:35] <paloyme> this is my 2nd week of linux
[06:35] <jmg> Cloud_tm: have you checked the Ubuntu forums regarding Codeweavers?
[06:35] <jmg> heh
[06:35] <nalioth> paloyme: sudo will work on ANY unix
[06:35] <paloyme> does ubuntu disable the root as default
[06:36] <_jason> OrTigaS: have you tried system > administration > printing ?
[06:36] <brownie17> what command can i use to find out info about a file, like filesize and type and things?
[06:36] <jmg> paloyme: not disable just doesnt set password by default.
[06:36] <Aqutavia> asuming i cant see the screen. would some one walk me though the
[06:36] <nalioth> paloyme: security
[06:36] <_jason> brownie17: ls -l, stat, file
[06:36] <Aqutavia> keybard process of changing my resolution?
[06:36] <OrTigaS> _jason,  yes
[06:36] <UncleD> Anyone know the syntax to grep a specific line from a file?
[06:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell OrTigaS about printing
[06:36] <UncleD> like "grep line12553 file.txt"
[06:36] <OrTigaS> but just only opening but didn't open the window
[06:36] <_jason> UncleD: sed -n '12553p' file, should work
[06:37] <UncleD> _jason: thanks
[06:37] <davecb> howdy hooo
[06:37] <paloyme> nalioth, wat do you mean when you said security? ubuntu disabled it by default for security purposes?
[06:37] <davecb> (im drunk but lucid)
[06:37] <Aqutavia> heh.
[06:37] <paloyme> jmg, you know how to set root's password?
[06:37] <davecb> how do i install kde desktop manager
[06:37] <nalioth> paloyme: yes, if you'll join #ubuntu-offtopic we can discuss it in depth
[06:37] <davecb> on ubuntu?
[06:37] <jmg> paloyme: sudo passwd
[06:37] <nalioth> paloyme: there is no need for that
[06:37] <nalioth> jmg: please don't do that
[06:37] <_jason> davecb: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell paloyme about root
[06:37] <jmg> nalioth: dont answer questions?
[06:38] <davecb> _jason,  thanks...the same with xubuntu-desktop?
[06:38] <nalioth> jmg: ubuntu was designed without an active root account, enabling one can break things
[06:38] <_jason> davecb: yep
[06:38] <doms> i get rid installing my Apache , Mysql , PHP
[06:38] <jmg> nalioth: not really. 99.9% of packages are built with nil ubuntu changes and are otherwise synced directly from debian, which does not use sudo.
[06:38] <_jason> doms: what are you trying to do?
[06:39] <Parkotron> Would someone mind taking a look at this: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/688161 ? Obviously it's someone trying to get into my system through ssh, but is it worth worrying about?
[06:39] <doms> jason
[06:39] <Madpilot> Parkotron, do you have the SSH server installed?
[06:39] <OrTigaS> i didn't see HP 640C there
[06:39] <doms> i'am screwed
[06:39] <eduardo_> Parkotron: relax man.
[06:39] <basura> what branch of notebook shoul i buy it?
[06:39] <basura> hp toshiba?
[06:39] <basura> sony?
[06:39] <basura> dell?
[06:39] <OrTigaS> kahit ano
[06:39] <eduardo_> toshiba
[06:40] <Madpilot> !tell basura about enter
[06:40] <basura> eduardo_ whit intel?
[06:40] <Wolvenhaven> ive tried installing ubuntu several times from an iso i downloaded, and everytime i get into a commandline which i cannot input into, on which there is alot of information about ramchecking or something, and one of the errors is this console cant load, then it just sits there doing nothing, and it wont let me input to it, and it apears to not be functioning, do i need a new iso? or reburn the one i have?
[06:41] <_jason> Wolvenhaven: so it doesn't even install then?
[06:41] <doms> i'am try an sample programm <?php echo("Hellow World"); ?> in  my text editor and save as test.php when i open-up it in my firefox broswer then i click the test.php file then it say "save to disk" why is it i cant see a "Hellow World" in the page
[06:41] <Wolvenhaven> doms
[06:41] <Wolvenhaven> do you have an apache server running?
[06:41] <doms> yup
[06:41] <Parkotron> Madpilot: Yes, I have SSH installed and I use it a lot. eduardo_, I'm not overly concerned, I've just never come across anything like that before.
[06:41] <doms> yes i install apache2,mysql, php5
[06:41] <jmg> Parkotron: as long as they arent getting the right user you havent got much to worry about...
[06:41] <_jason> doms: did you follow the wiki for LAMP?
[06:42] <Parkotron> I also just noticed this: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/688170
[06:42] <doms> yup
[06:42] <doms> in ubuntu
[06:42] <doms> wiki
[06:42] <_jason> doms: did you try the things mentioned about troubleshooting php?
[06:42] <imbrandon> doms php needs to be served by apache WITH php enabled
[06:42] <doms> i dont know whats going on
[06:42] <Wolvenhaven> jason: it boots up into asking me what type of install i want, when i hit enter for regular install, it starts this laundry list of stuff, then stops when it cant load that console thing, all the command lines are predated by [#######]
[06:42] <doms> where troubleshooting php
[06:42] <_jason> Wolvenhaven: did you burn the iso at a high speed (>4) ?
[06:42] <doms> how to enabled php
[06:43] <Wolvenhaven> i think it was at 3200
[06:43] <davecb> can drunk guys talk in this room?
[06:43] <davecb> =P
[06:43] <Aqutavia> is there a way to change the desktop resolution? if so. what is the process of doing so if i cant use the mouse. or see the screen(out of sync)?
[06:43] <imbrandon> doms did you apt-get install apache2? if so did you also apt-get install php ?
[06:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell doms about lamp
[06:43] <jerware> is there a key stroke to start GNOME Terminal ?
[06:43] <jmg> Parkotron: you are being scanned probably by some bots
[06:43] <jmg> Parkotron: they will be hitting your entire netblock
[06:43] <_jason> kethinov: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aqutavia about fixres
[06:43] <minerale> does grub support xfs?
[06:43] <_jason> ugh time to sleep
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aqutavia about xcfg
[06:43] <jmg> Parkotron: looking for vulnerable systems
[06:43] <_jason> jerware: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[06:43] <imbrandon> ubotu tell Aqutavia about resolution
[06:43] <nalioth> Aqutavia: check your private messages
[06:44] <paloyme> anybody here knows where to get the flash plugin for firefox? i cant access macromedia's ftp site
[06:44] <imbrandon> !flash
[06:44] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:44] <doms> yes i correctly installed the apache2, mysql, php5 in my synaptic packageer
[06:44] <jerware> i have GNOME Terminal in my bottom bar, but i hate moving my hand off the key board to start it.  when i have to load with multiple files per terminal
[06:44] <_jason> doms: right under ``Install php4'' there is ``troubleshooting''.  Try those suggestions on the wiki please
[06:44] <bosco> paloyme, there should be a flash plugin in synaptic
[06:44] <Wolvenhaven> doms: is the file in your www folder?
[06:44] <Parkotron> jmg: After so many failed login attempts, shouldn't my computer ignore that IP? Is there a way to set something like that up?
[06:44] <doms> yes i hav var/www
[06:45] <paloyme> bosco, under what category?
[06:45] <Wolvenhaven> i dont know then
[06:45] <Wolvenhaven> my php works fine locally
[06:45] <doms> apache2-default and php
[06:45] <paloyme> ooops, i gues i can use the search jejeje
[06:45] <Wolvenhaven> go into your apache setting file
[06:45] <Wolvenhaven> and look through to see if something is odd
[06:45] <doms> thats what i want local server
[06:45] <bosco> paloyme, just search for flash and it will come up but even though i have the plugin i still cant view flash sites maybe different for you
[06:45] <bosco> though
[06:45] <imbrandon> doms you are going to the file via http://localhost/hello.php and not using "file->open" correct
[06:46] <Wolvenhaven> doms: i use easy php, its an apache/mysql server which sets itself up for you
[06:46] <doms> yes i enter that in my address of firefox
[06:46] <jerware> i guess not.  im probobly confuse with shift ctrl n  but thats when gnome is already running,  then i'll still  have lift my hand off the key  board to move it to a new workspace
[06:46] <jerware> workspaces are great
[06:46] <Triskel> hey
[06:46] <_jason> doms: what does this say: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ | grep php
[06:46] <imbrandon> doms well then it seems that php is not setup correct in the http.conf file follow the wiki
[06:46] <Wolvenhaven> ok on my ubuntu question:i have to burn at above 4000rpm?
[06:46] <Triskel> somebody know the default pass for root, after installed ubuntu ?
[06:46] <doms> maybe thats the problem
[06:46] <davecb> i have one stupid question...
[06:47] <doms> the httpd.conf
[06:47] <davecb> why am i getting trobule
[06:47] <_jason> Wolvenhaven: no, burn at 4x or less
[06:47] <Wolvenhaven> doms: are you sure you saved it as .php and not .php.txt?
[06:47] <Wolvenhaven> i burned at 3200
[06:47] <davecb> with ubuntu's backdoors repositories
[06:47] <davecb> ?
[06:47] <doms> yes i'am sure test.php
[06:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell Wolvenhaven about verify
[06:48] <thoreauputic> !tell Triskel about root
[06:48] <Aqutavia> keep in mind nalioth and imbrandon.... im using live cd. this is a process i need to do with out perminatly editing or changeing files.
[06:48] <bosco> paloyme, did you find it
[06:48] <paloyme> yep, theres two here, flash nonfree, and the other one
[06:48] <doms> php5.conf
[06:48] <paloyme> i installed both
[06:48] <doms> php5.load
[06:49] <Wolvenhaven> heh, now if only i had the iso on this computer
[06:49] <doms> jason
[06:49] <doms> php5.conf php5.load
[06:49] <nalioth> Aqutavia: you can do the xcfg command from the liveCD
[06:49] <_jason> doms: have you tried restarting apache?
[06:49] <doms> yes
[06:49] <nalioth> Aqutavia: when you are done with the prompts, just hit "ctrl-alt-backspace" and it should log you back in with the new rez
[06:49] <doms> apachectl restart
[06:50] <imbrandon> Aqutavia, what nalioth said or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:50] <Wolvenhaven> doms: the apache server may be up, but your mySQL may be down or loaded incorrectly
[06:50] <nalioth> imbrandon: /msg ubotu xcfg
[06:50] <Parkotron> Has anybody here tried out InitNG? If so I'm wondering what kind of speed increases they saw.
[06:50] <doms> how to set-up correctly mysql
[06:50] <Aqutavia> imbrandon i have tryed that and no combination of settings seems to help.;(
[06:50] <_jason> doms: mysql is on the LAMP page too
[06:50] <doms> i installed mysql-myadmin and php-myadmin
[06:50] <imbrandon>  /msg ubotu xcfg
[06:51] <nalioth> imbrandon: no left spacing please :)
[06:51] <imbrandon> hehe
[06:51] <imbrandon> i got it, thanks
[06:51] <doms> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28php%29 i use that wiki correctly
[06:51] <Wolvenhaven> jason:thanks for the help, but i dont even understand how do to md5 checks
[06:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Wolvenhaven about verify
[06:52] <imbrandon> md5 command ?
[06:52] <harisund> People, have any of you any experience with email servers? My ISP blocks port 25, so I am assuming things wouldn't work. Can I still use postfix to send mails and not receive them?
[06:52] <_jason> Wolvenhaven: what operating system are you using now?
[06:52] <Wolvenhaven> bootleg xp
[06:52] <Aqutavia> i have been doing a cold boot. ha. ill try ctrl-alt-bksp
[06:52] <doms> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28php%29 i use that wiki correctly
[06:53] <thoreauputic> harisund: only if the ISP does not block 25 outgoing
[06:53] <nalioth> Wolvenhaven: http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[06:53] <dsj> Can I ask questions on graphics card support with ubuntu here?
[06:53] <harisund> thoreauputic: Oh ISP's can do that too? How do I verify that?
[06:53] <imbrandon> dsj, sure
[06:53] <crunchyfish> i've downloaded both the 32 and 64 bit isos of ubuntu and burned each twice, and tried using each burnt disc 3-4 times each and every time i try to install it'll go through the process of copying the files, restarting, and then it will freeze at about 70-80%
[06:53] <crunchyfish> is this common?
[06:53] <_jason> doms: yeah
[06:54] <thoreauputic> harisund: ask the ISP I guess :)
[06:54] <nalioth> crunchyfish: did you burn them as slowly as possible?
[06:54] <scotiab> Is there a utility installed by default on ubuntu that will let me burn files to dvds?
[06:54] <harisund> thoreauputic: Good idea :) Wonder why I din't think of that before.
[06:54] <crunchyfish> i didn't, nalioth. do you think that could be an issue?
[06:54] <imbrandon> crunchyfish, no its not common, did you try debug setting like turing off acpi at boot ?
[06:54] <thoreauputic> harisund: mine blocks 25 outgoing but allows you to opt out if you wabt
[06:54] <harisund> thoreauputic: oh ok. Thanks ...
[06:54] <thoreauputic> s/wabt/want
[06:54] <nalioth> crunchyfish: yes, high speed burning is an issue.  we recommend 4x or slower
[06:54] <imbrandon> yes burn them slow
[06:54] <crunchyfish> excellent, i hope that takes care of it
[06:54] <crunchyfish> thanks very much
[06:55] <crunchyfish> heck, i'll burn it at 1x
[06:55] <dsj> Anybody with intel gm 945 graphics card able to get more  than around 12 MB Video Ram here with ubuntu dapper drake?
[06:55] <thoreauputic> harisund: mind you , there isn't much point for most people
[06:55] <Aqutavia> when all else fails.. lower speed... and speed again.
[06:56] <crunchyfish> i have a 64 bit processor. should i use that version or play it safe and go with 32 bit?
[06:56] <imbrandon> 64 bit is nice but its personal prefrence
[06:56] <harisund> thoreauputic: oh ok. I was just curious. I have a webserver, SSH server, FTP server, and all that .. but not the email one and wanted to have one of those too :)
[06:56] <crunchyfish> what are the advantages? i'm completely new to linux
[06:56] <doms> ok i will remove all my Apache Mysql and Php5 installed in ubuntu box <mark to  "complete remove"> then i redownload it again and faloow the step of LAMP
[06:56] <nalioth> crunchyfish: the i386 version offers more entertainment value (flash, audio/video codecs and such) not a lot of those things are available for the amd64 arch
[06:56] <doms> i'am get rid
[06:56] <doms> ok i will remove all my Apache Mysql and Php5 installed in ubuntu box <mark to  "complete remove"> then i redownload it again and faloow the step of LAMP
[06:57] <crunchyfish> oh, i'll try 32 bit for now then since my use is pretty recreational
[06:57] <thoreauputic> harisund: well, if you run a mail server make sure you know what you are doing, or your ISP will be very upset with you ;)
[06:57] <harisund> thoreauputic: Really? Wow .. thanks for the warning :) Maybe I shouldn't be overambitious
[06:58] <nalioth> crunchyfish: you as a human will probably never tell the difference in the 32bits that are unused lol
[06:58] <crunchyfish> haha, ok
[06:58] <thoreauputic> harisund: I suggest you forget it unless you have a specific reason to do it, frnakly
[06:58] <imbrandon> not unless you do some development stuff
[06:58] <thoreauputic> *frankly
[06:58] <imbrandon> and even then its only marginal
[06:58] <harisund> thoreauputic: Well, I wanted an email server to be able to send out stuff, not receive any. But I think I will follow your advice.
[06:59] <nalioth> harisund: most email sent via your method are quickly killed as "spam"
[06:59] <imbrandon> harisund, but isp's tend to frown on open relays ;)
[06:59] <crunchyfish> also, should i set up the partitions before i start the discs or is it ok to just leave some free unpartitioned space and let the installer handle it?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> harisund: you can send whatevr you like through the ISP mail server - so why bother ?
[06:59] <nalioth> crunchyfish: free space is golden
[06:59] <harisund> quickly kill as "spam" by whom imbrandon? The ISP/
[07:00] <imbrandon> the reciever
[07:00] <nalioth> harisund: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:00] <crunchyfish> one last question, should i reset my MBR before i try installing it again? grub is still in there from the last botched install, or will it safely overwrite itself?
[07:00] <nalioth> crunchyfish: it should overwrite itself
[07:00] <thoreauputic> harisund: there are whole IP blocks blacklisted as "residential" or "dynamic" etc
[07:00] <crunchyfish> thanks for all your help
[07:04] <_6ix_> I installed the rar package, but my archive program cant open rar files.  Why might that be?
[07:05] <mavric2001> dapper is getting a lot of updates lately, is that usual? or are they about to realease of final version?
[07:05] <noiesmo> mavric2001, release due 1st june
[07:06] <mavric2001> so a lot of updates on the beta is normal then
[07:06] <Selophane> rob, u around?
[07:06] <rob> Selophane, yes
[07:06] <Selophane> i was reading the wiki and found you are running Ubuntu on Presario M2000 Laptop?
[07:06] <mavric2001> I really cant find anything wrong with dapper
[07:07] <nalioth> _6ix_: did you install unrar-nonfree?
[07:07] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[07:07] <shadeofgrey> i have a question
[07:07] <mavric2001> easyubuntu doesnt work to great on dapper
[07:08] <_6ix_> nalioth, pretty sure, checking...
[07:08] <Selophane> i have an M2000 and have tried Breezy 5.10 Ubuntu and Kubuntu, neither seem to want to work for me.. freezes upon loading x/KDE
[07:08] <shadeofgrey> if im running dapper and i just dist-upgraded today...  if i still see the nvidia logo at bootup does that mean i have to reinstall nvidia-glx?
[07:08] <eod_punk> does ubunto come with wine on it?
[07:08] <Selophane> must hard shutdown
[07:08] <shadeofgrey> furthermore, how does one fiddle with the refresh rate
[07:08] <nalioth> eod_punk: it does not, but it is easy to add
[07:08] <lutra> eod_punk: not by default
[07:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eod_punk about wine
[07:08] <mavric2001> shadeofgrey:  it shouldnt have to be reinstalled
[07:08] <Selophane> rob, noticed u said your M2000 was working fine? wondering if there was any extra options or procedures u went through to get it working?
[07:09] <mavric2001> nvidia logo means glx is installed
[07:09] <shadeofgrey> okay
[07:09] <noiesmo> mavric2001, its a good sign yeh
[07:09] <shadeofgrey> i just tried to install nvidia-settings because its not present and it warned me at the commandline that it was about to remove nvidia-glx
[07:10] <_jason> shadeofgrey: are you using dapper?
[07:10] <_6ix_> nalioth, I only had the free version.  Installing nonfree now.  Thanks
[07:10] <shadeofgrey> yes jason
[07:10] <Selophane> rob, sorry, do you need more info?
[07:10] <rob> Selophane, I'm having issues with Dapper on it atm with wireless
[07:10] <_jason> shadeofgrey: nvidia-settings isn't needed in dapper, it's part of nvidia-glx iirc and please aske dapper questions in #ubuntu+1 in the future thanks
[07:10] <Selophane> i c, well i only have Breezy atm
[07:10] <rob> Selophane, it just works pretty much
[07:10] <Selophane> did u do expert mode install?
[07:11] <Selophane> cuz i read on forums i'm not only one with problems getting this model laptop running (K)Ubuntu
[07:11] <luisito> hello
[07:12] <luisito> can I have a dual boot in a mac ibook?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> luisito: yes
[07:12] <nalioth> luisito: of course you can
[07:12] <Selophane> tried installing a "newer" i810 driver, and still no go
[07:13] <thoreauputic> luisito: you just need the space for Ubuntu ( dedicated partition)
[07:13] <thoreauputic> luisito: ie free space
[07:13] <Selophane> also tried doing a NoAccel in xorg config... now x won't even start
[07:13] <luisito> I'm just thinking to switch to macs. It is a good idea? does linux work fine on macs?
[07:14] <imbrandon> yup
[07:14] <mavric2001> mac sucks
[07:14] <thoreauputic> nalioth: apparently "parted" can now resize hfs+ - does the new installer do that on macs?
[07:14] <nalioth> thoreauputic: i've been resizing hfs+ since hoary
[07:14] <mavric2001> why would you spend 2500 on a mac to run linux on
[07:14] <thoreauputic> mavric2001: and you base this on what?
[07:14] <thoreauputic> nalioth: cool :)
[07:14] <nalioth> mavric2001: because the hardware is excellent
[07:14] <mavric2001> bs
[07:14] <vinboy> hi
[07:14] <thoreauputic> nalioth: so the installer includes that step?
[07:14] <vinboy> how do I set firefox as my default browser?
[07:14] <mavric2001> it isnt any better than pc hardware, specially if you build your own
[07:15] <shadeofgrey> okay jason...  i asked in ubuntu+1 prior to asking here...  waited patiently and got no response..  surely changing my refresh rate shouldnt be difficult?
[07:15] <vinboy> instead of konqueror
[07:15] <crunchyfish> nero and alcohol only let me choose 8x as the lowest burn speed. anyone know of a windows iso burner that will let me go lower?
[07:15] <nalioth> thoreauputic: i've not used the installer on a virgin mac
[07:15] <Selophane> rob, any suggestions on what i could try?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> nalioth: OK
[07:15] <nalioth> vinboy: system > prefs > preferred apps
[07:15] <Selophane> did u disable acpi?
[07:15] <luisito> mavric2001, I want to say good bye forever to windows but I need the design software I can't have in linux (yet). so I need a mac.
[07:15] <shadeofgrey> theres no way macs are ever virgins...  they're so sleek and sexy i wouldnt be suprised if they get more digital ass than lara croft
[07:15] <vinboy> thx nalioth
[07:16] <mavric2001> hell mac is intel now, lol, I repeat your purchasing over priced hardware
[07:16] <htinn> heh
[07:16] <rob> Selophane, maybe this one (haven't tried it myself yet) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Device/AirportExtreme
[07:16] <scotiab1> why mus tlinux make everything be so difficult?
[07:16] <rob> dont even know if thats the right one atm
[07:16] <_6ix_> Anyone else have trouble getting java applets to work in mozilla?
[07:16] <Rhisc> hi
[07:16] <thoreauputic> mavric2001: whatever. Use what you prefer, but don't trash hardware that many people like
[07:17] <rob> hmm that won't work actually, its for the apple airport ex
[07:17] <mavric2001> jobs stole from BSD
[07:17] <_jason> _6ix_: are you having difficulties?
[07:17] <luisito> mavric2001, yep!, I know it's an overpriced hardware but the system worth the money.
[07:17] <Rhisc> I need some help
[07:17] <nalioth> !offtopic
[07:17] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:17] <mavric2001> im not trashing hardware, the hardware is cheaper on the pc platform for the same stuff
[07:17] <specialbuddy> thats the truth
[07:17] <Selophane> rob, yea
[07:17] <thoreauputic> mavric2001:  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:18] <rob> or even #off-topic :)
[07:18] <mavric2001> so are you
[07:18] <Rhisc> does anyone here know anything about ndiswrapper?
[07:18] <Rhisc> I keep getting an invalid driver error
[07:19] <Rhisc> and I dont know how to fix it
[07:19] <mavric2001> its a free country and i will state my opinions wherever and however i choose
[07:19] <_jason> what country is that?
[07:20] <Installer36> Arizona?
[07:21] <mavric2001> thoreauputic:   /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <foureight84> hey all
[07:21] <Rhisc> mavric2001,  just because you are in a free country dosent mean that The admins cant hold the right to move you to another channel to talk about offtopic related subjects
[07:21] <thoreauputic> mavric2001: I'm already there :)
[07:21] <luisito> question: does a pc with a better hardware configuration work faster than a mac with its low cost configuration?
[07:21] <htinn> could someone please explain to me why i'm perm-banned from #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <foureight84> is there an individual serial number on a pentium 4?
[07:21] <mavric2001> just because you have a god complex doesnt make you less gay
[07:21] <rob> Selophane, if you find a solution, please let me know :)
[07:21] <foureight84> i remember that they used to have serial numbers on pentium III
[07:22] <thoreauputic> !gay
[07:22] <Selophane> rob lol, i have no idea what to try
[07:22] <Selophane> so many others report the same
[07:22] <luisito> mavric2001, question: does a pc with a better hardware configuration work faster than a mac with its low cost configuration?
[07:22] <thoreauputic> !tell mavric2001 about gay
[07:22] <Selophane> and even the semi-solutions posted there aren't working for me
[07:22] <rersi> _jason
[07:22] <intelikey> !coc
[07:22] <ubotu> [coc]  the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:22] <_jason> rersi: ?
[07:22] <rersi> :)
[07:22] <MrPockets> hows one check the HDD space left?
[07:23] <Rhisc> how do I compile ndiswrapper?
[07:23] <mavric2001> people who think macs are faster than x86 platforms in any configuration are funny
[07:23] <intelikey> MrPockets df -h
[07:23] <htinn> hello?
[07:23] <_jason> !ndiswrapper
[07:23] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:23] <drumline_> friggin old disks...   floppies are evil.
[07:23] <Madpilot> htinn, try -offtopic again
[07:23] <nalioth> mavric2001: #ubuntu-offtopic awaits
[07:23] <thoreauputic> mavric2001: feel free to exprees your opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:23] <mavric2001> now that they are intel, maybe close to the fastest x86s but not really faster
[07:24] <thoreauputic> rob: heh - that's one way to do it I guess :)
[07:24] <rob> thoreauputic, yup :)
[07:25] <rersi> .                ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
[07:25] <rersi> .            ,`(_)`,
[07:25] <rersi> .___________/       \
[07:25] <rersi> .___________         |
[07:25] <rersi> .           \  ...  /
[07:25] <luisito> mavric2001, lets go to offtopic channel
[07:25] <rersi> .            `-___.`
[07:25] <luisito> oops! too late
[07:25] <vinboy> wat is the difference between installing from install cd & from live cd?
[07:25] <mavric2001> yawns ooops off topic
[07:26] <drumline_> vinboy: live cd doesn't install.
[07:26] <rob> probably should do that :)
[07:26] <d3wd> I can't get either cd to do its thing
[07:27] <minerale> How do I install grub manually? the installer said something about architecture and did not install it
[07:27] <intelikey> na it looks more cool to k/b when not chan op   rob
[07:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell minerale about grub
[07:27] <vinboy> drumline_: oh ic... i tot I can install from a live cd :D
[07:27] <d3wd> it goes to dr-dos and that's all
[07:27] <rob> intelikey, sneaky :)
[07:27] <drumline_> vinboy: live cd is for testing and other non-install purposes...   great for folks who want to try linux without the commitment.  :)
[07:28] <Madpilot> vinboy, not from 4.10 LiveCDs - the new version will have the install from LiveCD stuff
[07:28] <intelikey> 5.10 ?
[07:28] <Madpilot> gah, yes - 5.10, not 4... :P
[07:28] <vinboy> Madpilot: how about 5.10?
[07:29] <jmg> hmm
[07:29] <mavric2001> then again intel doesnt begin to compare to the latest athlon processors, so mac switching to intel shows how lame they are as manufacturers, the only thing apple seems to be good at is stealing BSD's work
[07:30] <Madpilot> bye
[07:30] <narg> intel's new chip is rather nice. And they didn't steal it, they used it like any can use it -- that's the point of open source.
[07:30] <drumline_> mavric: it's hardly stealing when BSD gives the code away under the BSD license and Apple openly admits it.
[07:31] <zyth> you can't steal BSD code.
[07:31] <zyth> that's silly.
[07:32] <drumline_> totally..  just a l33t0 junky, that boy.  He'll grow out of it.  :)
[07:32] <JonathanKent> !repositories
[07:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:32] <intelikey> ignorance is always 'silly'
[07:32] <scotiab1> !coc
[07:32] <ubotu> [coc]  the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:33] <blind> lol. everytime i see coc.. i think something else. heh
[07:33] <JonathanKent> !restricted
[07:33] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:33] <nalioth> !offtopic
[07:33] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:33] <scotiab1> !caps
[07:33] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[07:33] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[07:33] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:36] <drumline_> d/window new double on hide
[07:41] <Double_D> does anyone know where i can download the subfont.ttf file for mplayer?
[07:41] <_jason> Double_D: install mplayer-fonts
[07:41] <crunchyfish> i don't have any cd-r media that supports 1x burning. will burning ubuntu to a dvd work?
[07:41] <Double_D> i did.
[07:41] <Double_D> still can't locate the file.
[07:41] <jmg> crunchyfish: it should do
[07:42] <_jason> Double_D: did you install from the repositories?
[07:42] <nalioth> Double_D: the pkg called mplayer-fonts, iirc
[07:42] <Double_D> _jason yes.
[07:42] <jmg> crunchyfish: whats the reason for 1x burning though?
[07:42] <pauldaoust> hey, folks. Is anyone aware of how to get Nautilus' bookmarks back to the old-fashioned, tag-based, non-hierarchical bookmarks of yesteryear? (and yes, I'm aware they're still tag-based, but once upon a time they *felt* tag-based.)
[07:42] <nalioth> jmg: it has been a known issue that iso images of ubunt that are burned at too high a speed, turn into partial coasters
[07:43] <Double_D> _jason, nalioth: ahh, i got it.  my bad, thanks.
[07:43] <crunchyfish> someone said my ubunstu installs were botching because i burned the disc at too high a speec
[07:43] <crunchyfish> speed
[07:43] <crunchyfish> the lowest i can get is 8x, even with updated burner firmware
[07:43] <jmg> nalioth: really?
[07:43] <Double_D> _jason, nalioth: was just trying to locate the file, didn't try to restart mplayer (duh).
[07:43] <AnndyOn> gday mate
[07:43] <nalioth> jmg: yes, really
[07:43] <jmg> nalioth: can i read about this?
[07:43] <jmg> !coasters
[07:43] <ubotu> jmg: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:43] <nalioth> jmg: ask anyone in here that has helped for a while, we've all seen it
[07:44] <crunchyfish> nalioth do you think 8x would work or is that still too high?
[07:44] <nalioth> crunchyfish: we recommend 4x or less
[07:45] <AnndyOn> wat u guys talking about?
[07:45] <crunchyfish> is the burn speed at all based on the media?
[07:45] <nalioth> crunchyfish: it's your cd-r and your time
[07:45] <crunchyfish> i have the iso loaded in my burner software (i just updated my burner firmware also) and when there's no disc in the drive i can select 1x, but as soon as i put in a disc the minimum is 8x
[07:46] <nalioth> crunchyfish: don't you love windows telling you what to do? do you have 2 optical drives?
[07:46] <intelikey> max burn speed is media limited but min-burn speed ?
[07:46] <crunchyfish> oh actually i can try the burner on this other pc i guess
[07:46] <AnndyOn> is depand on the cd media
[07:47] <crunchyfish> i just put in a disc that must be 5 years old and i still can't go below 8x :(
[07:47] <AnndyOn> clear
[07:48] <crunchyfish> maybe i need a different program. any good windows recommendations for low speed burning software?
[07:48] <zyth> crunchyfish, nero.
[07:48] <AnndyOn> try ahead nero they good.
[07:48] <zyth> nero is the only burning software worth using on windows.
[07:48] <crunchyfish> yeah, nero's the one that's telling me i can only do 8x
[07:48] <intelikey> yeah it's not the media setting the minimum speed...
[07:48] <dumbbeatnix> DeepBurner
[07:49] <AnndyOn> alchocol 120% also good
[07:49] <dumbbeatnix> DeepBurner free use google
[07:49] <AnndyOn> u can try windows build in cd burner
[07:49] <lorth> CDBurner XP Pro3 is nice freeware
[07:49] <nalioth> crunchyfish: may i point you toward ##windows for your question?
[07:49] <crunchyfish> sorry about that
[07:50] <dumbbeatnix> has anyone setup pl2303 using linux
[07:50] <intelikey> i don't understand a word of that.... it's all windows to me.....
[07:50] <crunchyfish> this computer is going to let me burn at 1x :)
[07:50] <dumbbeatnix> it registers in the dmesg but I am unable to connect to the phone?
[07:51] <zyth> crunchyfish, I used to have a 2x DVD burner
[07:51] <zyth> 45 mins for a disc, whee
[07:51] <dumbbeatnix> mobile phone that is
[07:51] <linux_galore> crunchyfish: get the knoppix/kubuntu live cd and use k3b to burn the cd's
[07:51] <crunchyfish> haha
[07:51] <francis> hi
[07:52] <dumbbeatnix> is this the linux section?
[07:52] <francis> Totem could not play 'fd://0'. anyone has ever seen this ? ive just installed every necessary codecs with easyubuntu and about:plugins in firefox looks nice but no movie is playable
[07:53] <intelikey> linux_galore hmmm did i miss something?   A can't burn a good copy.   B. get another iso and burn it to use to burn a good copy.  C. multiple coasters/frisbees  ?
[07:53] <linux_galore> francis: ?? movies in firefox or totem
[07:54] <idefix> why do I get this? mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[07:55] <linux_galore> intelikey: just saying if you can get or have a live CD thats KDE based you should have K3B. how you get the CD is up to you
[07:55] <dumbbeatnix> has anyone got a sagem my c4-2 mobile phone to work?
[07:55] <minerale> I was able to fix grub, now it loads (from a separate partition) what do I need to add to the menu.lst to boot ubuntu/drake/64? (the howto's don't mention)
[07:55] <francis> linux_galore: both
[07:55] <intelikey> idefix cause udev hasn't made the inode yet.  use the static device node in /dev/.static
[07:55] <sharpy> how do i install KDE?
[07:55] <francis> linux_galore: well, from firefox initially
[07:55] <linux_galore> francis: have you tried mplayer
[07:55] <Troy_McClure> sudo apt-get install kdm? something similiar to that
[07:55] <idefix> intelikey mount -t vfat /dev/.static /media/floppy ?
[07:55] <dumbbeatnix> KDE is installed from synaptic package manager, simply select the KDE desktop
[07:56] <Troy_McClure> that works too :P
[07:56] <linux_galore> francis: theres an extension for firefox to manager what program pays what media file type
[07:56] <linux_galore> manage*
[07:56] <idefix> intelikey mount: /dev/.static is not a block device
[07:56] <idefix> at least it's valid
[07:56] <intelikey> idefix no  /dev/.static/dev/fd0    i think
[07:56] <linux_galore> francis: its called media player connectivity  it will alow you to try the different media players for set file types
[07:56] <whiter> [Aprivmsg #ubuntu :hello, i need help
[07:57] <idefix> mount: /dev/.static/dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[07:57] <idefix>  :(
[07:57] <roryy> /dev/.static is root-only readable on my system
[07:57] <roryy>  /dev/.static is root-only readable on my system
[07:57] <whiter> whats a good terminal irc client?
[07:57] <thoreauputic> irssi
[07:57] <whiter> okay, ill install that then ill be back
[07:58] <francis> linux_galore: hrm ill look it out
[07:58] <hyperstream> hmm ive just brought a new 320 giger wester digital HardDrive. how in Gnome can i set it up and partition it? or do i require to use something such as FDISK ?
[07:58] <intelikey> idefix i said i think.    use [tab]   to complete the string...
[07:58] <sharpy> dumbbeatnix, select KDE Desktop? it's not there.. whne i type kde in the search field?
[07:58] <linux_galore> francis: in firefox go Tools-> Extensions then click on "Find More Extensions" then on the mozilla site look for "Media Player Connectivity"
[07:58] <intelikey> roryy only root can mount anyway
[07:58] <whiter> ill just do the best i can in netcat
[07:58] <idefix> [tab]  doesn't work
[07:59] <roryy> you going to need 'sudo -i' if you want tab-completion
[07:59] <linux_galore> intelikey: unless the user is in the right group
[07:59] <whiter> i tried to install xubuntu-desktop the way it says in the tutorial but its telling me i need to insert the breezy badger disc into /cdrom/ and i have the cd in but when i press enterr it doesnt do anything
[07:59] <dumbbeatnix> try the repositories, you will have to make them universe.  Their is some help available in ubuntu forum on this topic.
[07:59] <thoreauputic> whiter: if you are using Ubuntu, irssi should be installed by default
[07:59] <sharpy> dumbbeatnix, make them universe?
[07:59] <whiter> netcat is doing just fine...
[07:59] <intelikey> idefix [tab]  works when the first leters are correct.
[08:00] <roryy> intelikey: otoh, if the system is correctly setup, anyone *should* be able to mount a floppy
[08:00] <whiter> just really wanna install xubuntu-desktop it just isnt letting me
[08:00] <roryy> intelikey: that directory is root-only readable; you can't tab-complete unless you are root
[08:00] <roryy> err
[08:00] <roryy> idefix, sorry
[08:00] <linux_galore> whiter: just install xfce
[08:00] <thoreauputic> whiter: try commentaing out the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <whiter> how?
[08:00] <linux_galore> whiter: apt-get install xfce
[08:00] <thoreauputic> whiter: erm - sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[08:01] <whiter> alright ill try those, gosh netcat sucks for ircing... and untu i tried that already
[08:01] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: not the same thing
[08:01] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: and anyway its xfce4
[08:01] <whiter> okay ill try commenting out the cd stuff brb
[08:01] <linux_galore> whiter: xubuntu is just Ubuntu base with xfce as the desktop
[08:01] <intelikey> roryy "correctly setup"   hehhe   yeah  like there is such a thing :)
[08:01] <thoreauputic> whiter: don't forget to update
[08:01] <dumbbeatnix> settings -> repositories -> add  then click on all of the check boxes
[08:01] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: xfce4 << diferent package
[08:02] <roryy> a guy who can irc using nc should be able to figure it out
[08:02] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: aaah why have the old version in there
[08:02] <alvaro> hi is there Flash 8.0 for Ubuntu ?
[08:02] <Madpilot> alvaro, no
[08:02] <idefix> roryy, I first tried copying some files, one seemed to work, then I copied the second and the first file's extension was changed then I restarted my PC and couldn't mount my floppy anymore
[08:02] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: no idea :)
[08:02] <linux_galore> alvaro: no
[08:02] <Mantice> A program say's it requires GTK 2.4 or later how can I install it ?
[08:02] <alvaro> What can i do , this one site requires 8.0..?
[08:02] <linux_galore> alvaro: install IE
[08:03] <idefix> roryy, I know it sound extremely weird, but that was the case
[08:03] <roryy> idefix: and if you put a different floppy in the drive?
[08:03] <linux_galore> alvaro: you can install IE in linux
[08:03] <HP_Administrator> Anyone know why I am getting kernel panic not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block ??  I am trying to install over net with loadlin and I am putting root=/dev/rd/0 rw
[08:03] <alvaro> internet explorer on ubuntu?
[08:03] <alvaro> how?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: actually xfce doesn't exist as a package on breezy
[08:03] <idefix> shoot, when restarting I had to remove it :|
[08:03] <Madpilot> alvaro, thru wine
[08:03] <HP_Administrator> I have an old Dell latitude lt 200 mhz
[08:03] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: aah
[08:03] <linux_galore> alvaro: let me get the link
[08:03] <idefix> thx
[08:03] <linux_galore> alvaro: theres a script that installs it all for you
[08:03] <holycow> http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computers.html  <-- heh
[08:04] <holycow> wow, check out that article
 internet explorer on ubuntu? <--- better still WHY ?
[08:05] <dumbbeatnix> for the kde question, you should now have KDE Desktop Environment, now its as simple as going to kde base in that tab
[08:05] <Mantice> How to I install GTK
[08:05] <damian_> When i enable the dma setting for say hdb (my hdd) do i also need to do it for my dvd and cd drives to get dvd's playing and cd's pping perfect speed?
[08:05] <roryy> Mantice: are you trying to compile a program ?
[08:05] <damian_> Mantice: synaptic
[08:05] <linux_galore> alvaro:  http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
[08:05] <hyperstream> fdisk /dev/hdb Unable to open /dev/hdb -----> altho 'Disks Manager' says its there under /dev/hdb and under the partition tab i cant click create partition or anything
[08:05] <Mantice> No a program says that It needs it to run
[08:05] <Mantice> 2.4 + it says
[08:05] <hyperstream> a new harddrive ive just brought and put in. 320 gig.
[08:06] <roryy> Mantice: have you installed ubuntu or kubuntu ? and what program is it?
[08:06] <Mantice> I dont know what one to install under Synaptic
[08:06] <Mantice> Ubuntu
 linux_galore: actually xfce doesn't exist as a package on breezy  <---- it's xfce4
[08:06] <damian_> Mantice so search for gtk 2.4
[08:06] <thoreauputic> intelikey: right
[08:06] <Mantice> I have Ubuntu 64
[08:06] <damian_> um
[08:06] <roryy> Mantice: ubuntu comes with gtk 2.8.6
[08:06] <damian_> Mantice kubuntu?
[08:06] <damian_> ubuntu comes with gtk
[08:07] <Mantice> How come it cant run :(
[08:07] <roryy> Mantice: what software are you trying to run? perhaps it's in the ubuntu repositories
[08:07] <damian_> are you within gnome?
[08:07] <Mantice> Maybe its the program
[08:07] <damian_> are you within gnome?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> intelikey: xubuntu-desktop is a nicer way to do it IMO - you get rox and abiword and sylpheed etc
[08:07] <Mantice> .x11 is a program file right
[08:07] <Mantice> I should able to run it
[08:07] <damian_> .x11 is a config file???
[08:07] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: thinking of saying that but I wasnt sure xubuntu-desktop was in breezy
[08:08] <damian_> Mantice are you in gnome right now
[08:08] <dumbbeatnix> mantice: you may need to fix some dependencies with apt-get fix [program-name]  or something.
[08:08] <roryy> damian_: oddly enough, you don't need to be 'in gnome' to use a gtk program.
[08:08] <Mantice> Your right I have GTK its the program
[08:08] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: yes it is :)
[08:08] <Mantice> I get this
[08:08] <Mantice> error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:08] <thoreauputic> !info xubuntu-desktop
[08:08] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[08:08] <damian_> roryy odly enough I KNOW
[08:08] <francis> still the same error
[08:08] <francis> what is that fb:// anyway
[08:09] <sEbaKiLLeR> question fo all: python , perl , ruby , JAVA?
[08:09] <sharpy> what's the difference between universe, multiverse?
[08:09] <dumbbeatnix> quit
[08:09] <intelikey> thoreauputic yes, i wasn't really commenting on how to install xfce just that the package name is xfce4 in ubuntu hoary > ....
[08:09] <damian_> roryy SEE If he was within gnome that means gtk is installed meaning its the programs faul6t...end of question
[08:09] <thoreauputic> intelikey: ah OK - xfce4 in breezy too afaik
[08:09] <damian_> so dont be smart
[08:10] <Mantice> Any one here know how to use wolfmame its for linux but I cant get it to boot :(
[08:10] <muraii> intelikey: Have you used one of the *box WMs, e.g. Openbox?  Do you have any idea how xfce would compare?
[08:10] <intelikey> yes  > ...   or greater
[08:10] <steel> where do i report bugs in ubuntu
[08:10] <damian_> Mantice bug report?
[08:10] <steel> where's that
[08:10] <Mantice> error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:11] <steel> oh
[08:11] <steel> hah
[08:11] <damian_> sorry
[08:11] <damian_> system tools->bug report tool
[08:11] <roryy> !bug
[08:11] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:11] <thoreauputic> muraii: fluxbox, openbox and blackbox are marginally quicker than xfce4 - but xfce4 is quite quick too
[08:11] <damian_> steel:  system tools->bug report tool
[08:12] <Mantice> Any one here a mame freak ?
[08:12] <intelikey> muraii xfce4 has more features than blackbox or fluxbox. (both can be enhanced tho)   but also has a larger foot print.     speed is indistinguishable to me.
[08:12] <damian_> if you answer me i can help you mantice last try
[08:12] <steel> well, i just put my mouse over an audio file and it starts playing (i like that feature) and i delete the file... and now the song is playing infinitly... how do i make it shut up?
[08:12] <linux_galore> Mantice: sudo apt-get install expat
[08:13] <thoreauputic> steel: try pkill mpg123
[08:13] <muraii> Greater, in speed, standards compliance, or...?
[08:13] <linux_galore> Mantice: I play mame roms
[08:13] <Madpilot> steel, in a terminal, try "killall esd" then "esd" to stop and restart the sound server - that should work
[08:13] <bit_doidao> steel: strange!
[08:13] <_jason> steel: you should file a bug on that, don't know about making it shutup...
[08:13] <Mantice> Cool
[08:13] <Mantice> whats expat ?
[08:13] <intelikey> muraii you are talking to a minimalist here.   personally i like twm ok.    and blackbox is about as heavy as i care to get.
[08:13] <steel> thanks
[08:13] <thoreauputic> steel: odd that it continues playing when you've deleted it :)
[08:13] <sharpy> what's the difference between universe, multiverse?
[08:13] <linux_galore> Mantice: its a package that also contains libexpat
[08:13] <Mantice> Do you use command line mame ? do you have a front end ?
[08:13] <damian_> thoreauputic reiserfs
[08:13] <esac> i accidentally mislinked my /usr/bin/Xorg file .. can anybody point me where i can redownload that file (beta2) ?
[08:14] <_jason> steel: logging out and locgging in may do it, or maybe killall nautilus, or maybe kill esd and then start it again
[08:14] <roryy> sharpy: universe is `free', unsupported software; multiverse is `non-free', unsupported software
[08:14] <thoreauputic> damian_: ?
[08:14] <linux_galore> Mantice: basically your missing stuff
[08:14] <damian_> u can be playing a video and delete or rename it or whatever and it will...you wont be getting file in use errors
[08:14] <linux_galore> Mantice: and the program cant find it
[08:14] <sharpy> roryy, thanks ?:-)
[08:15] <[nige] > is there anyway to check my acpi settings
[08:15] <[nige] > I want to know if its enabled or not
[08:15] <muraii> I suppose I haven't dug far enough into even Metacity or Openbox to see what sorts of features I'd like.    Keybinding is, of course, essential.
[08:15] <steel> "pkill mpg123" worked
[08:15] <damian_> thoreauputic: unsure exactly how reiserfs works but u can move rename whatever a file even while its in use
[08:15] <intelikey> i wish the guy that i talked with last night about auto login ssh  would ask again.  i have an answer.   i worked it out with expect over ssh
[08:15] <esac> [nige]  /etc/default/acpid
[08:15] <thoreauputic> damian_: ah OK - I use plain vanilla ext3
[08:15] <damian_> :P
[08:16] <Mantice> That dident work :( The program still says the same thing, I tryed running the other file called "xwlfview32" and it came out with bunch of messages
[08:16] <slimz> can anyone help me out, im really new to linux, and im trying to copy a folder in terminal as root, so im doing "sudo cp "folder name" "where i want the folder" and i ckeep getting an error saying "cp: omitting directory `/home/slimz/main/'
[08:16] <damian_> just noticed that the other day ive always sued ext3 too but  reiserfs really is quite good how you can do that
[08:16] <sEbaKiLLeR> question fo all: python , perl , ruby , JAVA?
[08:16] <intelikey> holycow who did you stumble upon that artical ?
[08:16] <damian_> When i enable the dma setting for say hdb (my hdd) do i also need to do it for my dvd and cd drives to get dvd's playing and cd's pping perfect speed?
[08:17] <Madpilot> damian_, yes
[08:17] <damian_> thanks
[08:17] <roryy> sEbaKiLLeR: that question is better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:17] <damian_> whats cdrom drive called?
[08:17] <damian_> /dev/cdrom?
[08:17] <intelikey> slimz  add  -R
[08:17] <Mantice> (xwlfview32:9673): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libsmooth.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:17] <Luke> does the stock dapper kernel have fs loopback installed?
[08:17] <holycow> intelikey, hell if i know :)
[08:17] <holycow> heh
[08:18] <slimz> intelikey:  cp: accessing `-R': No such file or directory
[08:18] <damian_> mantice: thats an easy one
[08:18] <holycow> i think its a parody, if you go to the main page and go to the bottom ofr the main page
[08:18] <linux_galore> Mantice: sounds like you randomly grabbed a binary and installed it and didnt use the package manager so you didnt install any of the dependencies
[08:18] <holycow> it has a link to a 'i love gitmo' tshirt
[08:18] <hyphenated> Luke: #ubuntu+1 and it probably does
[08:18] <cipi604> damian_, /media/cdrom
[08:18] <intelikey> slimz  you really should read the links that !cli  outputs.
[08:18] <holycow> it must be a parod, albeit, that had me going for a wee bit
[08:18] <holycow> hehe
[08:18] <muraii> who
[08:18] <intelikey> !cli
[08:18] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:18] <damian_> cipi604 nah i need the block device not mount point
[08:18] <Madpilot> holycow, #ubuntu-offtopic - and post the URL ;)
[08:19] <slimz> intelikey:  whats !cli ?
[08:19] <holycow> k.
[08:19] <roryy> damian_: one way to check is to look in /etc/fstab (my cd device is listed there)
[08:19] <linux_galore> Mantice: Linux is very specific, if it cant find a file it doesnt exist, if the file not there you didnt install something
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !tell slimz about cli
[08:19] <damian_> lol
[08:19] <damian_> of course now why didnt i tink fo that
[08:19] <alekline> Hello all....
[08:19] <damian_> this flu thats why damnit
[08:19] <cipi604> :)
[08:19] <muraii> Command Line Interface
[08:20] <alekline> Im newbie in Ubuntu and Linux, I need to know how I can see my NTFS Partition
[08:20] <intelikey> slimz in linux most commands are both case and order sensitive.   (read ubotu CLI ^)    cp -R dir new.location
[08:20] <Mantice> Ah ok im still geting the hang of this :)
[08:20] <intelikey> muraii 25 seconds here.... lag
[08:20] <roryy> !tell alekline about windowsdrives
[08:20] <damian_> this wolfmame is shit
[08:20] <alekline> Hello....... Anybody wants to help me?
[08:21] <damian_> i just installed it
[08:21] <damian_> there is better
[08:21] <nalioth> damian_: language please
[08:21] <alekline> thansk!!!!!!!!
[08:21] <slimz> intelikey:  oh i see, i didn't know you would need a switch for a folder
[08:21] <damian_> sorry
[08:21] <linux_galore> Mantice: there are thousands of packages for Debian/Ubuntu so because it says one file is missing really doesnt tell us much because we dont know every file thats in those thousands of packages
[08:21] <damian_> my abd
[08:21] <damian_> bad
[08:21] <thoreauputic> !tell alekline about ask
[08:21] <muraii> Wow, this is horrible.
[08:22] <muraii> intelikey: ircss showed about 64 seconds last time 'round.
[08:22] <intelikey> slimz  man cp     hehhe for that matter    man man
[08:22] <Mantice> Could you try "http://wolfmame.marpirc.net/xwolfmame-0104.tar.bz2" and see it it works ?
[08:22] <Mantice> Its 4 mb
[08:22] <linux_galore> Mantice: best bet is to search on www.google.com/linux  and see what package contains the missing lib
[08:22] <alekline> Hey friends, thanks for your suppor
[08:22] <alekline> t
[08:22] <Mantice> Its a mame emulater
[08:22] <intelikey> holycow i didn't know that linux was a program ?
[08:22] <roryy> Mantice: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search for specific files; additionally, i see mame is already in the repos
[08:22] <thoreauputic> !patience
[08:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[08:22] <linux_galore> Mantice: then use apt-get install   to install the missing package
[08:23] <thoreauputic> alekline: kind of hard to hel if we don't know your problem...
[08:23] <thoreauputic> *help
[08:23] <MistaED> mantice: looks like the program is looking for an old copy of gtk, v2.4 and the current stable version is like 2.8 somethting
[08:23] <roryy> thoreauputic: he's already been helped
[08:23] <linux_galore> Mantice: mame is in the main online package repository, all you needed to do was use apt-get or synaptic to install mame and you wouldnt have this headache
[08:23] <steel> when i try to report the bug, it says an error has occured... thats all
[08:24] <muraii> Okay, well, it's great to be on telegraph here; but I'll have to check ya later.
[08:24] <damian_> MANTICE: "apt-get install xmame-common"
[08:24] <MistaED> unless ubuntu still has deb packages for v2.4, it might be a bit difficult to get going, unless you can get it to point to 2.8 to compile instead
[08:24] <thoreauputic> roryy: ah OK - I thought he was complaining - my mistake :)
[08:24] <alekline> Ij, I have Windows Xp installed and I make a new partition... then, I installed Ubuntu, the problem is that I cant' see the NTFS partition from ubuntu
[08:24] <intelikey> muraii i'm on dialup and doing a major install/dl  atm   so the 20-30 second lag is normal.    but about a 1 second when not using all my band-narrowness  (some have band-width, not me.)   :)
[08:24] <roryy> thoreauputic: hrm, maybe i was wrong...
[08:24] <damian_> MANTICE: "apt-get install xmame-x"
[08:24] <alekline> and I need some documents stored in that partition
[08:24] <roryy> alekline: did you read the link ubotu sent you ?
[08:25] <thoreauputic> !tell alekline abut mountwindows
[08:25] <intelikey> well looks like he missed that...
[08:25] <Mantice> Thanks Im doing that now
[08:26] <damian_> different program but yes u can play your mame roms and it will be much simpler for you
[08:26] <Rhisc2> hey
[08:26] <Rhisc2> its working!
[08:26] <alekline> Hey guys, you are really good support
[08:26] <linux_galore> Mantice: quick lesson, dont randomly grab binaries with Linux, thats the windows way and is also why windows has serious security problem, learn how to use and setup your package manager then if you want to install anything its just a matter of typing (or clicking through the synaptic GUI app)  apt-get install APP_NAME
[08:26] <Mantice> damian_ I looked that one up today but I went to the offical site only to find that its down :(
[08:26] <thoreauputic> alekline: are you registered with nickserv ?
[08:26] <alekline> i will check your answer and come back if I have some problems
[08:26] <alekline> nop, I didn't
[08:27] <linux_galore> Mantice: you dont download "anything" ever the package manager does all that for you
[08:27] <joelbryan> speaking of support, can anyone here test http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport, it's a candidate for main inclusion in Dapper Drake final CD.
[08:27] <thoreauputic> alekline: I suggest you register - the bot can't help you otherwise ( in /msg )
[08:27] <damian_> linux_galore: EXACTLY if  a programs not within synaptic its not worth downloading
[08:27] <Mantice> linux_galore: Ok will do. It seems to have a massive libery of files
[08:27] <damian_> linux_galore not worth having
[08:27] <damian_> :):)
[08:28] <thoreauputic> alekline: /msg nickserv register <your password>
[08:28] <Mantice> lol
[08:28] <alekline> Are seriusly?
[08:28] <alekline> there is a "Robot"helping us?
[08:28] <roryy> thoreauputic: hm. it would be cool if the bot checked for registration on a !tell and warned the !tell'er about it
[08:28] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[08:28] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[08:28] <alekline> this is really nice....
[08:28] <joelbryan> alekline: Hey, try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport it automates the registration process.
[08:28] <Mantice> I wish they would update XMMS to be more like Winamp
[08:29] <Mantice>  Its a bit outdated
[08:29] <thoreauputic> roryy: ubotu just refuses to do it and /msg es the !tell er :)
[08:29] <damian_> Mantice in whitch ways?
[08:29] <linux_galore> Mantice: the package manager will download all the bits and pieces any application needs for you as well as the application, in Windows you get great big binary globs, often these globs when they install install three of four copies of the same lib or in some nasty cases overwrite a lib thus breaking the whole thing, the Linux package manager stops all this
[08:29] <roryy> thoreauputic: hrm. i got 'told alekline about windowsdrives' earlier from ubotu
[08:29] <alekline> Ok, OK, Im trying to understand all this information
[08:30] <damian_> mantice u want xmms to play videos or something?
[08:30] <Mantice> Nah
[08:30] <alekline> Where were Linux While I was using othe Operative Systems.....
[08:30] <thoreauputic> roryy: yes it's odd - I only got the error the second time I tried it
[08:30] <Mantice> I just liked the look of winamp and the skins
[08:30] <damian_> hmm
[08:30] <damian_> try
[08:30] <intelikey> holycow i'm saving that "blast" as evidance against M$'ism  lol
[08:30] <damian_> xmms-kjofol
[08:30] <thoreauputic> roryy: maybe ubotu has a bug :)
[08:30] <damian_> its in synaptic
[08:30] <linux_galore> alekline: its on another partition doing nothing
[08:30] <roryy> thoreauputic: impossible!
[08:30] <damian_> has much nices interface than xmms
[08:31] <thoreauputic> roryy: heh :)
[08:31] <damian_> and winamp for that matter
[08:31] <damian_> hey anyone know whats happened to the k=jofol project? is it dead?
[08:31] <intelikey> alekline same place it is now :)
[08:31] <damian_> hey anyone know whats happened to the k-jofol project? is it dead?
[08:31] <linux_galore> damian_: got a feeling its renamed
[08:32] <linux_galore> damian_: I havent seen that name in ages
[08:32] <intelikey> xmms-kjofol - XMMS remote that uses K-Jofol's skins
[08:32] <Mantice> xmms-kjofol whats that
[08:32] <Mantice> ah
[08:32] <intelikey> xmms-kjofol-skins - Skins for the xmms-kjofol package
[08:33] <damian_> basically a improved gui for xmms
[08:33] <Mantice> The winamp visual effects are crazy.
[08:33] <damian_> basically an improved gui for xmms
[08:33] <linux_galore> to be honest I havent touched xmms in year either
[08:33] <intelikey> damian_ that's all that repos search turned up...
[08:33] <Mantice> Mplayer I found is very helpful
[08:33] <linux_galore> doesnt beep media player  BPM  replace xmms now
[08:33] <thoreauputic> beep-media-player has a nicer menu setup than xmms
[08:33] <Mantice> Players every thing
[08:34] <damian_> intelikey? you want to install it?
[08:34] <intelikey> damian_ no
[08:34] <linux_galore> Mantice: yeah mplayer is pretty good for commercial codec support
[08:34] <scotiab1> Is there a utility installed by default on ubuntu that will let me burn files to dvds?
[08:34] <Mantice> XMMS takes like 10 secs to find my soundcard
[08:35] <intelikey> damian_ i use sox/play
[08:35] <Mantice> Im just happy it plays OGM and MKV and good old XviD
[08:35] <linux_galore> Mantice: try BMP
[08:35] <Mantice> BMP?
[08:35] <meshe> is there a list of supported hardware for ubuntu?
[08:35] <damian_> :P
[08:35] <linux_galore> Mantice: beep media player, its a fixed up new version of xmms
[08:35] <Mantice> Oh
[08:35] <Mantice> Beep media player
[08:35] <thoreauputic> !info beep-media-player
[08:35] <ubotu> beep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>+cvs20050803-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 3588 kB
[08:35] <damian_> didnt like beep it dosent have a video plugin
[08:35] <intelikey> beep media player
[08:35] <alekline> Thotreauputic: I am really new in all this..... tell me, do I have to download this file: ubuntu-live-support-0.3.14-5.tar.gz ???
[08:35] <damian_> or does it?
[08:36] <Mantice> Ooooh
[08:36] <joelbryan> alekline: no download the deb file
[08:36] <roryy> !tell meshe about hardware
[08:36] <thoreauputic> alekline: where did you read that?
[08:36] <meshe> thx roryy
[08:36] <roryy> meshe: probably incomplete, but the best we can do
[08:36] <linux_galore> alekline: you dont download anything with Ubuntu
[08:36] <alekline> In this link: "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport" and then, how do I Installed? I know i have to use the console
[08:37] <alekline> ok, ok
[08:37] <linux_galore> alekline: you just tell the package manager what you want and it will go of and grab it for you
[08:37] <meshe> roryy: i'm working on the 3rd network card none of them will dhcp an address, yet they all work in windows
[08:37] <alekline> I know there is something called "aptitude"
[08:37] <joelbryan> alekline: download, ubuntu-live-support_0.3.14-6_i386.deb, and run sudo dpkg --install ./ubuntu-live-support_0.3.14-6_i386.deb
[08:37] <thoreauputic> alekline: try synaptic package manager first
[08:37] <linux_galore> alekline: apt-get
[08:37] <joelbryan> alekline: no, it's not yet in the aptitude
[08:38] <joelbryan> or synaptic
[08:38] <alekline> ok, ok... I will try the sympathic thing
[08:38] <linux_galore> alekline: or use synpatic if you want a clicky graphical tool thats basically a front end for apt-get
[08:38] <Mantice> I think BMP has changed its name
[08:38] <alekline> thanks for your help
[08:38] <linux_galore> synaptic*
[08:38] <Mantice>  Audacious Media Player.
[08:39] <CuriousCat> hello!
[08:39] <roryy> meshe: i believe ethernet cards are usually well suppported; try doing a manual setup to check that it isn't a dhcp or other problem
[08:39] <thoreauputic> alekline: ah, that app is quite new - probably not in the repositories yet
[08:39] <CuriousCat> Would anyone know what would be the name of the package for the SMP kernel for a 686?
[08:39] <intelikey> apt/apt-get/apt-search/apt-* aptitude adapt synaptic are all front-ends to the debian package manager (dpkg)
[08:39] <Mantice> Arron Live in New Zealand :)
[08:39] <meshe> ok, the current card is supported witht he comment: "Just Works, only distro that autodetects this one"
[08:39] <meshe> *sigh*
[08:39] <roryy> CuriousCat: linux-image-686-smp
[08:40] <guest_aaron> Well it seems that the 'Live Chat' app works...
[08:40] <CuriousCat> roryy, thanks!
[08:40] <guest_aaron> Excellent
[08:40] <joelbryan> alekline: download also gnome-panel_2.14.1-0ubuntu6_i386.deb from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport and install it, this will enable the "System > Help > Live Chat Support" menu.
[08:40] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: you can use apt-get to search for things not just install them
[08:40] <Mantice> Beeps called Audacious Media Player Now they still have the old version but the new ones called Audacious Media Player
[08:40] <alekline> ok
[08:40] <alekline> thanks
[08:40] <alekline> I am takin notes
[08:40] <CuriousCat> linux_galore, how?
[08:41] <joelbryan> alekline: I'm the developer of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport, and it's very stable, and needs testing
[08:41] <CuriousCat> hi joelbryan
[08:41] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat:  apt-cache search <keywords>
[08:41] <joelbryan> CuriousCat: haller1
[08:41] <roryy> joelbryan: can i run it without breaking my current irc session?
[08:41] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: apt-cache search whatever
[08:41] <sharpy> is there a way when selecting the KDE desktop in Sections in Synaptic Package manager to select all the KDE apps that come with it? or do I ahve to select each one individualy?
[08:41] <joelbryan> roryy: yes
[08:41] <alekline> hey, congratulations.....
[08:42] <alekline> You make our lives better
[08:42] <alekline> and easier
[08:42] <thoreauputic> sharpy: install kubuntu-desktop
[08:42] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, thanks!
 CuriousCat: you can use apt-get to search for things not just  install them <--- ?   do you mean apt-cache ?
[08:42] <joelbryan> alekline: wow, thanks!
[08:42] <intelikey> linux_galore ah yes,  sorry i'm lagging.
[08:42] <linux_galore> intelikey: lol
[08:43] <roryy> joelbryan: ah, it's for dapper -- sorry, that is about 48 hours worth of download for me ;)
[08:43] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, this would be the one, right? --> kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp
[08:43] <linux_galore> intelikey: Im not too fast either Im doing support in a few channels
[08:43] <joelbryan> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport also autoregister your nick, without having to type, /msg NickServ REGISTER...
[08:43] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: that isn't an Ubuntu kernel - where are you getting that?
[08:43] <alekline> Joelbryan, how many Kb has this file?
[08:44] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, from apt-cache
[08:44] <joelbryan> alekline: probably 90kb?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: do you have Debian sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:44] <alekline> I don't know if the download is complete and the file has 34 kb
[08:44] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, i don't think so... let me checl
[08:44] <toogreen> hey guys im running dapper, just tried to install google's picassa with wine... it worked #1 !!
[08:44] <joelbryan> alekline: it's just 34 kb
[08:44] <whiter> okay i got xfce installed
[08:44] <alekline> ok
[08:45] <whiter> but, my resolution is all messed up, anyone know how to get a better resolution?
[08:45] <alekline> i got the file in my desktop....
[08:45] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: you want linux-image - and it should be a 2.6.* kernel
[08:45] <alekline> joelbryan: just go to my console and..... ??
[08:45] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, well, they're all ubuntu sources. let me search again
[08:45] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: search for linux-image
[08:46] <alekline> joelbryan: sudo dpkg --install ./ubuntu-live-support_0.3.14-6_i386.deb
[08:46] <damian_> whiter: system->preferences->Screen Resolution
[08:46] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, linux-image-2.6.15-21-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP ??
[08:46] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: thta's a dapper kernel - are you on dapper ?
[08:46] <Mantice> Did any one know the XMMS2 Is out ?
[08:46] <sharpy> thoreauputic, thank u. :-)
[08:47] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, yup
[08:47] <damian_> yes
[08:47] <damian_> xmms2 is shit
[08:47] <damian_> its a commant line program
[08:47] <Mantice> is it
[08:47] <intelikey> i forget which is the meta package linux-<blah>  or linux-image-<blah>   ?
[08:47] <Mantice> really lol
[08:47] <damian_> thus not making it an x multimedia system
[08:47] <sharpy> damian_, is it xmms?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: afaik dapper kernels are SMP by default
[08:47] <Mantice> Audacious Media Player is the best then its like the new BEEP
[08:47] <damian_> ?
[08:47] <damian_> is it?
[08:47] <damian_> its clearly
[08:47] <damian_> xmms2
[08:47] <thoreauputic> !enter
[08:47] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:48] <sharpy> damian_, what i meant was.. does it do anything that xmms doesn't do?
[08:48] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, oooh! coolness! So i don't need to install an smp kernel anymore because it's there? :D
[08:48] <damian_> oh
[08:48] <joelbryan> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport is for dapper, you can install the gnome-panel to enable "System > Help > Live Chat Support" menu.
[08:48] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: ask in #ubuntu+1 - but I think that's right
[08:48] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, ok.
[08:48] <damian_> not really except that its a  backend now days
[08:49] <damian_> there will be an official xmms2 gui that will probably be close to wina,mp
[08:49] <meshe> what reasons would i not see a link light on my nic?
[08:49] <sharpy> damian_, i c.
[08:49] <damian_> although thats nowhere near ready and the dodgy gtk frontends are useless
[08:50] <damian_> just for testing the backend obviously simply no functionality
[08:50] <damian_> #xmms2
[08:50] <intelikey> link light ?
[08:50] <joelbryan> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport automatically join you to a particular channel that depends on your language and location.
[08:50] <Mantice> Can you add repositrys that are uptodate with firefox
[08:50] <thoreauputic> !ff1.5
[08:50] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:51] <Mantice> No way man last time I did it I dident have a firefox
[08:51] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, hmmm. no one talking. :P i'll just lurk
[08:51] <meshe> yeah, the light on the network card that shows you have a good link with your hub/switch/router
[08:51] <thoreauputic> Mantice: then you made a mistake - works fine here
[08:51] <Mantice> Last time I tryed firefox booted then crashed
[08:51] <meshe> i've ruled out any hardware related issues
[08:51] <Mantice> Ooh New Ubuntu comes out soon :)
[08:52] <meshe> the cable, card and hub are all tested on a windows and another ubuntu machine
[08:52] <joelbryan> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport aims to provide an interface to communicate to other ubuntu users with the same language & location, as well as to connect to the official ubuntu channel in Freenode.org. It also aims to get live chat support from ubuntu users right into the desktop menu, via "System > Help > Live Chat Support".
[08:54] <movpclr> anyone hae any experience setting up a multiple user samba share?  I would like to have each user have access to the same share, but eeach "role" to have separate priveledges.
[08:54] <intelikey> joelbryan are you just spamming around or is there a method to the madness ?
[08:54] <joelbryan> spamming i guess
[08:54] <GTroy_> what would make breezy freeze after the monitors shut off?
[08:54] <sharpy> movpclr, apt-get install kde-network and configure the samba module.
[08:55] <movpclr> does that require all of the kde libs as well?
[08:55] <sharpy> movpclr, if you have KDE already installed then the answer is no.
[08:55] <anTiX2> I can't restart mysql after updating to latest ver in breezy.. :(
[08:55] <Mantice> Berkeley ?
[08:55] <whiter> anyone know why my resolution is stuck on 640x480
[08:56] <movpclr> sharpy: i use XFCE/Gnome so I have no KDE libs installed
[08:56] <Mantice> xorg option ?
[08:56] <sharpy> whiter, your /etc/fstab did not detect your video settings. What is your max monitors resolution?
[08:56] <whiter> 1152x768
[08:56] <whiter> and im using xfce
[08:57] <sharpy> movpclr, one way to do it is via KDE or manually edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:57] <joelbryan> I really need user's base to test it, this is a candidate for dapper release, so please, test http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport
[08:57] <whiter> sharpy how can i fix it?
[08:57] <lantzilla> is root enabled by default?
[08:57] <sharpy> whiter, goto /etc/X11/xorg.conf and check the monitor section.
[08:57] <whiter> its all correct.
[08:57] <sharpy> whiter, fix what? the users priveleges?
[08:57] <movpclr> sharpy: I would prefer to just manually edit the config file but I cannot seem to find any definitive answer to my question
[08:57] <intelikey> whiter not correct v-sync and h-ref rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and answer all questions correctly.
[08:57] <whiter> no my resolution.
[08:58] <whiter> ok intelikey
[08:58] <sharpy> whiter, intelikey is correct. I just had a brainfart.
[08:59] <sharpy> movpclr, i am not sure how. man samba and/or smb.conf. I edited that file via KDE.
[08:59] <GTroy> HELP!!! whenever I leave my computer it freezes
[08:59] <Kr0ntab> dont leave it then
[08:59] <Kr0ntab> :-P
[08:59] <Den> Hi - How do I use "info" (textinfo - view command documentation) to find all the documentation pages/files about grub?  When I do "info grub", I just get the same as "man grub", and no links to the other grub pages, like for the command "grub-install" - I'm trying to find all the grub commands & documentation - how do I do that?
[08:59] <GTroy> har
[09:00] <movpclr> sharpy: yeah I will have to sit down and read through the man pages, thought someone might have the "quick fix"
[09:00] <thoreauputic> GTroy: might be one of the screensavers causing that
[09:00] <GTroy> thoreauputic: it happens when the screens shut off
[09:00] <thoreauputic> GTroy: then I don't know
[09:00] <crunchyfish> it's lonely GTroy
[09:00] <sharpy> movpclr, when u say user permissions u mean certain folders to be accessed?
[09:00] <intelikey> whiter also of note,  http://monitorworld.com  might help you find the correct settings for your monitor.   there is a search option on that page.....   use as needed.
[09:00] <Kr0ntab> does yer Key board respond?  i.e. caps lock... num-lock?
[09:01] <GTroy> nope nothing Kr0ntab
[09:01] <GTroy> crunchyfish: ?
[09:01] <kumar> hi
[09:01] <intelikey> Den info info
[09:02] <HyperStream> ahh i just reboot my ubuntu and when starting it hangs on LVM Volume Manager or something like this. ive just installed a new harddrive(not touching the other one with ubuntu and windows dual boot) so i did a boot in recovery mode and it seems /dev/hda8 (/var) 's superblock is messed up and corrupted is there any way i can fix this without loosing data on the partition? (in windows or linux console)
[09:02] <movpclr> GTroy: I had the same problem, it was due to terrible ATI support by default.  I had to turn off the screensaver, which was causing the problem.
[09:02] <GTroy> movpclr: good I'll shut it off then
[09:03] <Mantice> Are you haveing the laggy screen saver problem with your screen savers
[09:03] <GTroy> Mantice: nope
[09:03] <GTroy> works great
[09:03] <movpclr> GTroy: yeah, I turned it to just blank screen
[09:03] <Mantice> I get 300 fps now :)
[09:03] <Mantice> ATi drivers are a pain to install but its worth it
[09:03] <intelikey> HyperStream "testdisk"  maybe....
[09:04] <GTroy> movpclr: I have a dual setup, and both screens show different screensavers
[09:04] <Aqutavia> is the string "startx gconf-editor " a cli command?
[09:04] <lantzilla> found how to enable root
[09:04] <lantzilla> thanks
[09:04] <whiter> for those x changes to take place do i restart?
[09:04] <movpclr> GTroy: I am not familiar with the dual screen setup, try turning both off and see if the problem continues
[09:05] <sharpy> whiter, control alt backspace
[09:05] <GTroy> movpclr: ok
[09:05] <whiter> i just logged off
[09:05] <whiter> didnt seem to work...
[09:05] <whiter> guess ill restart
[09:05] <nemoo> good morning
[09:05] <Den> intelikey: thanks:)
[09:05] <HyperStream> intelikey ill give that a shot
[09:06] <nemoo> does anyone have problems with that your hda becomes hde when installing a pci ide controller?
[09:06] <Mantice> Is there any 3d linux rpgs I dont know about ? As far as I know there is none
[09:06] <nemoo> as soon as I pull the card out, my first ide is hda again :/
[09:06] <nemoo> but I need the controller for more disks....
[09:06] <nemoo> any ideas? :)
[09:07] <whiter> okay, that didnt work
[09:08] <intelikey> nemoo static device nodes for use in fstab......   that would only be a work around.
[09:08] <whiter> anyone know why my resolution is stuck on 640x480 using xubuntu?
[09:08] <intelikey> whiter pastebin your xorg.conf file and we'll have a look