[00:00] <the_count> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24337196/
[00:00] <the_count> k1l_: Wait a bit to post your next message, I'm going to reboot. About 30 seconds
[00:00] <k1l_> the_count: ok, so you manually installed packages?
[00:00] <debianarm> k11 how did u know i was logged in as root on this android
[00:01] <the_count> k1l_: Back
 the_count: ok, so you manually installed packages?
[00:01] <debianarm> i need to get some device mappers to map the android spund devices to work with alsatools on debiann
[00:02] <k1l_> or used a gnome ppa?
[00:02] <debianarm> sound devices
[00:02] <k1l_> debianarm: this is plain ubuntu support here. so stop asking debian stuff. thanks
[00:02] <sere84> im new to LVM and was wondering if i could install another distro on top of ubuntu without restarting.. basically from ubuntu
[00:03] <debianarm> k11 hey where the hell do you think ubintu came from
[00:03] <the_count> k1l_: I never manually installed any packages
[00:05] <the_count> k1l_: Bummer: I have got to go, I'll be around again next week
[00:05] <k1l_> the_count: your last paste shows that is got packages from -updates repo installed but there are no repos
[00:07] <notmike> Ubuntu made me :(
[00:15] <israphial> Hello. I'm looking to modify the global icons of my Ubuntu 16.04 install but I really don't know how this process works. I want to edit the icons that nautilus uses (like what folders look like in the GUI) and what my dock uses. I think the ones that are currently available are pretty ugly.
[00:15] <israphial> I have both unity tweaker tool and compiz installed and I know how to use both of them.
[00:15] <dean> Trying to install MySQL-python in a virtualenv but get the error message: OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages'  This doesn't make sense. It shouldn't be touching my main python install should it?
[00:16] <kwant> israphial, hi, you can do it through the unity tweak tool, but you need to install an icon pack
[00:16] <israphial> I think I would like to make my own icons.
[00:17] <israphial> Could you tell me where the currently installed icon packs on my system are installed so I can emulate their filestructure and such?
[00:17] <dean> israphial: /usr/share/icons
[00:18] <mncedisi> how to change my unity desktop, wanna install Mac OS X look, which ppa can i terminal
[00:18] <isene> Anybody here with a macbook pro that can give me a hand?
[00:18] <israphial> Thanks dean and kwant!
[00:20] <israphial> Ugh my nautilus has been laggy and crashy today and I don't know why.
[00:20] <israphial> It just crashes after a while. Which is kind of disturbing.
[00:20] <kwant> israphial, it can be simpler than that, there are icon packs in the default software repo, for example, check the numix icon theme mentioned here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-16-10
[00:20] <israphial> kwant: I have several icon packs installed already actually. I would like to make my own though. Or, at least find one according to my own taste.
[00:21] <israphial> I'm not a big fan of most I've seen. I was thinking of taking the circular design of the Numix circle icons and converting them into a transparent, line-based circular icon pack.
[00:21] <kwant> israphial, browse thought that article that I've linked and also through the "Themes" section of that website and you should find quite a few
[00:21] <dean> israphial: Check out super flat remix: https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Super+flat+remix+icon+theme?content=169073
[00:21] <kwant> israphial, through*
[00:22] <israphial> Similar to the icons shown here: https://i.imgur.com/J4Wi8ixl.png @ dean and kwant
[00:22] <kwant> israphial, sorry, can't help much with making your own icons, but I can show you places where to find finished ones and how to install
[00:23] <israphial> Yep that's why I wanted to know where the icons are stored. I think what I'm going to do is copy an existing icon pack's file/folder directory, rename it, and redo all of the icons within it so that the filesystem footwork is done for me.
[00:24] <israphial> Once I'm done editing all of the icons I want to edit, I can apply the theme with unity tweak tool like I would any other pack.
[00:24] <israphial> And, now that you've shown me where the icon packs are stored, I can do exactly that. :)
[00:25] <mncedisi> is it    true ubuntu 18.04 will be Gnome only instead of unity
[00:25] <israphial> Yes.
[00:25] <israphial> @ mncedisi
[00:25] <kwant> israphial, great, if you want so, make them available for everyone, some people might be happy with your style
[00:26] <israphial> As long as I can complete the project and verify that it works, I will do exactly that.
[00:26] <kdzd_m> hey all
[00:26] <kdzd_m> allooooo
[00:26] <dean> mncedisi: I'm sad about this. I just moved from fedora back to ubuntu. I used to hate unity. It's grown on me. And now it's going away lol
[00:26] <mncedisi> thats bad@ israphial
[00:26] <israphial> I'd be willing to bet that there are icon packs out there like what I'm describing already but I dont have the data to sort through thousands of images trying to find them unfortunately. Lol
[00:27] <israphial> I actually really like how screenspace-conservative unity is tbh. I've ran Ubuntu GNOME, Xubuntu, Debian, and Mint Cinnamon in vboxes and none of them are as sleek and space-saving as good ol unity with the ark-dark theme. imo.
[00:28] <israphial> @mncedisi / dean
[00:28] <mncedisi> folks why cant ubuntu run android APK FILES ITS ABOUT TIME
[00:29] <mncedisi> INSTEAD OF CHROME BROWSER
[00:29] <kwant> israphial, my thoughts exactly
[00:30] <israphial> hmm... After picking apart the numix-circle icon pack, it seems like it redirects to somewhere else. Like the icons are actually stored elsewhere. o_O
[00:33] <mncedisi> instaed of chrome browser
[00:33] <mvensky> Is ubuntero.org still relevant and being used or is there another way to join the ubuntu community?
[00:35] <mncedisi> @mvensky i suppose it is
[00:37] <mvensky> @mncedisi; thanks for the reply; the latest bug reports are from 2008
[00:38] <mncedisi> @ mvensky re check your PPA
[00:38] <mncedisi> or add it
[00:41] <mncedisi> folks i used to use wine and plan on linux before in mint, now i just dont see the use if we had windows apps altenative s like unetbootin
[00:41] <ljc> hey, i'm trying to compile an old linux version (3.11.4) and getting a fatal error that it can't find compiler-gcc5.c, even though i'm specifying to use gcc-4.6 in the Makefile
[00:42] <mncedisi> which app can i use to create a USB windows ISO installer
[00:43] <mncedisi> as an altanetive to RUFUS
[00:44] <OerHeks> mncedisi, none sofar found.
[00:47] <mncedisi> @ QerHeks thanks in advance  but what if i fomart my USB with gparted and extract the ISO file into it
[00:48] <mncedisi> @ QerHeks using NTFS fie system
[00:49] <OerHeks> good luck with that
[00:49] <mncedisi> lol
[00:51] <adrian_1908> Is the windows ISO special? Can't one use common tools or dd like for Linux UEFI images?
[00:54] <israphial> I was wondering if someone could tell me how to automatically give root privs to nautilus when it opens.
[00:55] <israphial> I need to make some changes to a folder in my root directory however I keep having to sudo nautilus to open it and that's kind of a pain and unnecessary.
[01:04] <OerHeks> !info nautilus-admin
[01:05] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/nautilusadmin .. but you still need to type your password i guess
[01:07] <meta23> hey
[01:08] <israphial> Huh... Ok. Thank you.
[01:09] <meta23> hun
[01:19] <tarcisio> unity is dead
[01:22] <OerHeks> congrats, you are nr 25.000 alive that say unity is dead
[01:25] <israphial> Looking for a transparent icon pack for ubuntu. I'm not a fan of fleshed out icons. I tried editing the files of numix-circle but I cannot save them in svg format and I cannot currently download the program that creates svg files due to a data restriction.
[01:28] <JustCurious> Hello, I have a problem with a Seagate Backup Plus (external HD). It's exfat formatted (on Windows 7). It's plug and play and it's automatically mounted on Ubuntu Mate 17.04, but on Ubuntu 12.04 it's not detected, it doesn't show even on lsusb output. Any idea? I've tried the command rmmod uas, but the result is ERROR: Module uas does not exist in /proc/modules.
[01:29] <jack> how do i allow mysql port to be opened on Ubuntu 14.04 server LTS?
[01:30] <Ben64> jack: can you explain more? because the answer i want to give you is "start mysql"
[01:31] <jack> im trying to access mysql from a remote host and the port for mysql wont open
[01:31] <leptone> how do install this command line tool on 16.04? https://github.com/defunkt/gist#readme
[01:32] <Ben64> leptone: follow the instructions? 3rd party software isn't supported here though
[01:32] <israphial> Looking for an icon pack very similar to this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.natewren.linesfree&hl=en
[01:32] <israphial> Can anyone help me? I'm unable to find anything even remotely similar for linux.
[01:32] <leptone> Ben64 there arent instructions for linux/ubuntu
[01:32] <Ben64> jack: you need to make sure it's listening on a public ip, but be sure that's what you actually want. normally they're only available to localhost for good reason
[01:33] <leptone> i assume i cant just apt-get install it...
[01:33] <jack> im trying to use a remote control panel because i cant add an SSL to it because it wouldnt be on the same server as my SSL
[01:33] <israphial> I found an old post on /r/unixporn that had icons kiiiind of like that, but he said he... Made a theme from an apk or something weird. He linked an apk that he got the icons from.
[01:39] <micros> hello. how can i read a line from a file ending with 11:22:33 and insert this line in to another file as hello112233 ?  i could cat the file in to tail -c 8, but then still need to remove the : and pipe that wholething perhaps with sed into a file.  seems complex. thanks
[01:41] <adrian_1908> jack: try #ubuntu-server maybe. I'd say you need to modify your config to have MySQL listen on a port, without ip restriction. And you'll need to open the firewall of course, which is very simple with UFW.
[01:41] <adrian_1908> Make sure you have a strong password though :P
[01:42] <finisterra_> I have a touchscreen but gnome is not having it. xinput is not showing "touchscreen" what should I do?
[01:42] <jack> ill try might just reinstall it can see if i can fix it because i have messsed up the firewall i think haha
[01:42] <adrian_1908> micros: if it's a recurring task, maybe write a scirpt, python even?
[01:43] <Ben64> jack: that doesn't make sense
[01:43] <sirv> all IRC moderators are fucktards
[01:43] <sirv_> all IRC moderators are fucktards
[01:44] <jack> i have been screwing around with the firewall trying to open the port for mysql and i have done like 50 things i dont rember how to undo
[01:44] <Ben64> jack: you need to make sure it's listening on a public ip, but be sure that's what you actually want. normally they're only available to localhost for good reason
[01:44] <Ben64> probably not a firewall thing
[01:44] <Ben64> and i doubt you actually need it listening publicly
[01:44] <ecormier> can you just pipe it through ssh?
[01:45] <jack> i know but in order for me to use the control panel for what i need it for i need to be able to use an SSL and i cant do that with an IP
[01:45] <micros> cat file | tr -d "\:" | tail -c 6 > out
[01:45] <Ben64> what control panel? what ssl? can't do that with an ip?
[01:46] <jack> i use a program for Teamspeak 3 that create bots and i need to add an ssl to the control panel but i dont want to make a seperate domain for the ssl
[01:47] <Ben64> none of what you're saying makes any sense
[01:48] <jack> i use a program for Teamspeak 3 Voip that makes a bot for when you join the voice chat called JTS3servermod
[01:48] <sirv> use skype instead of teamspeak
[01:49] <sirv> or mobile phone
[01:49] <jack> i dont like skype its crap imo
[01:49] <sirv> asterisk
[01:49] <implite> mumble
[01:49] <sirv> or something that works for ya
[01:49] <implite> discord
[01:50] <jack> i only use teamspeak because it is reliable
[01:51] <finisterra_> I'm hoping to be in the right place. I'm trying to get touchscreen working on my gnome. I have a toshiba portege m750. I'm not sure what to do. xinput does not show touschscreen. thank you
[01:51] <xangua> !ot
[01:52] <snarkypuppy> \join #geekblogtv
[01:52] <implite> !touchscreen
[01:52] <israphial> Hi. Long story short, I don't like fleshed out icons. I have installed Plank, a dock. I then applied a theme to it that made it only show the icons, not a background or overlay. Now, I want to make the icons transparent or super basic. I've looked for a theme like crazy that was just the outline of the icon with most of it being trasparent, but I can't find anything like what I'm explaining.
[01:52] <israphial> Something basically exactly like this, except for Linux: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.natewren.linesfree&hl=en
[01:52] <israphial> I use something similar on my phone and I'd like to use it on my computer as well.
[01:53] <israphial> Recommenting because my previous message got buried quickly.
[01:53] <implite> !xinput
[01:54] <finisterra_> !touchscreen and !xinput. I'm a noob. I dunno what that means.
[01:55] <implite> Hahaha
[01:55] <implite> it said that
[01:55] <implite> ubottu is a bot that you can see if it has info
[01:55] <adrian_1908> israphial: never seen icons like that on a linux desktop before, so you might be out of luck.
[01:56] <israphial> Huh. Maybe I'll look into making my own then.
[01:56] <stewie> I have a Hard Drive that was given as a gift. NTFS Formatted and someone forgot to shut it down properly. Am unable to format the drive...any suggestions?
[01:56] <adrian_1908> israphial: yes, be sure to publish them so people can benefit too. The example you gave does look nice.
[01:57] <israphial> I tried editing Numix's files but I can't save the files as .svg like numix wants.
[01:57] <implite> for example
[01:57] <implite> !gui
[01:57] <israphial> Gimp doesn't save in SVG unfortunately, and the only program I can find that will is huuuge and I don't have the data to download it.
[01:59] <finisterra_> I was in the #gnome chat and they explained that because xinput did not show touchscreen, that this would be a problem to look at in Ubuntu directly. So I was directed here.
[02:12] <elgimbo> msg nickserv register
[02:13] <mvensky> Hello, are there any suggestions for how to secure ubuntu desktop so children can’t say browse porn sites?
[02:17] <OerHeks> there used to be net nanny https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls
[02:17] <pavlos> mvensky, there is a parental control program, timekpr
[02:19] <pavlos> mvensky, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls
[02:19] <OerHeks> or get help from opendns https://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/
[02:20] <OerHeks> there are browser plugins too
[02:20] <mvensky> @pavios; than you for the tips
[02:55] <zippydo> I have a usb capture device and wish to compile module for it
[02:56] <zippydo> need help in compiling custom module for kernel
[02:57] <implite> zippydo i think that might be a question for ubuntu-dev
[02:57] <implite> maybe ask in that channel?
[02:57] <zippydo> ok
[02:58] <implite> are you using python?
[02:58] <implite> c?
[02:58] <implite> c++
[02:58] <implite> ?
[03:00] <implite> I used vlc for my usb tv capture device
[03:26] <dunderproto> What softphone app would you recommend for someone who is behind a NAT and doesn't really understand how VOIP works? Ekiga?
[03:27] <doge-doge> has anyone actually tried upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04 with an existing luks partition?
[03:27] <doge-doge> I just found this and if true, seems like an emergency: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/upgrade-from-16-10-to-17-04-with-luks-already-installed-has-this-been-tested/12357
[03:28] <bynarie> bought new laptop, acer predator, win10 preinstall. cannot seem to get a dual boot going no matter what i do. Any suggestions? Already have tried all of the obvious stuff like making sure its EFI etc.../
[03:28] <PipeItToDevNull> bynarie, What fails
[03:30] <bynarie> sorry, so it installs ok but i cannot access the grub menu, just keeps booting to windows.
[03:30] <PipeItToDevNull> bynarie, does it make a directory in the EFI partition
[03:30] <bynarie> already tried modifying bios to set boot priorities, doesnt matter what its set to, still boots to windows
[03:30] <bynarie> yes it does
[03:31] <OerHeks> disable fastboot in windows
[03:31] <PipeItToDevNull> You could try booting the live USB and setting next boot with "efibootmgr"
[03:31] <bynarie> OerHeks, already did
[03:32] <bynarie> PipeItToDevNull, how might i do that?
[03:34] <bynarie> ill keep looking into it, but most likely ill have to wipe win10 completely, install buntu, then reinstall win
[03:34] <bynarie> i absolutely cannot stand windows as a daily driver but for gaming i need tit
[03:34] <bynarie> it*
[03:35] <PipeItToDevNull> bynarie, https://pastebin.com/305nrWVk
[03:36] <bynarie> ah, i think i see
[03:36] <bynarie> thank you, will try it out
[03:36] <PipeItToDevNull> that example is with antergos_grub as the next boot, which is 0002 in the list
[03:36] <bynarie> ok
[03:40] <bynarie> thanks man ill give er a shot
[03:44] <bynarie> when im running the installer, do you think it matters where i select to install the bootloader????
[03:45] <PipeItToDevNull> bynarie, I do not recall being asked, as I set the EFI partiton manually
[03:58] <UnbrokenMotion> Hello, could anyone help me install some wifi drivers? I'm running Debian 8.2 and the device shows up as "Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter" when I run lsusb
[04:00] <Ben64> UnbrokenMotion: for debian the channel is #debian
[04:00] <UnbrokenMotion> I tried there already, I haven't gotten any responses and need to get my wifi working ASAP
[04:00] <Ben64> well this isn't the right spot to ask about debia
[04:05] <dunderproto> Anyone here familiar with Ekiga? I'm having issues trying to call a landline
[04:25] <gisberto> buon giorno a atutti
[05:17] <Klonekilla> WOW What have I done here?
[05:17] <baizon> Klonekilla: hi
[05:18] <Klonekilla> Oh howsit
[05:18] <Klonekilla> ?
[05:26] <ljc> hey, i'm trying to `sudo apt install gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabi` but getting a package not found. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabi. i have "deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted" in /etc/apt/sources.list, not sure why i can't get the package?
[05:29] <krytarik> ljc: As the page suggests, make sure you have 'universe' enabled too.
[05:30] <skylight465> is anybody here?
[05:30] <krytarik> skylight465: Yes, 1732.
[05:31] <Easyrider> ljc http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabi
[05:32] <skylight465> what should i say in this room?
[05:32] <skylight465> i'm fresh with it.
[05:32] <wedgie> this room is for support questions
[05:32] <skylight465> ubuntu support?
[05:32] <wedgie> of course :)
[05:33] <ljc> krytarik: thanks.
[05:35] <skylight465> oh,i just enter the default room when i open HexChat.
[05:50] <KrowK> how do i save the commands in grub i.e. press "e", then make my changes but they cannot save. e.g. in nano ctrl+o
[05:51] <KrowK> GNU GRUB version 1.99-21
[05:54] <Easyrider> krowk ^O write changes ^X exit
[05:55] <KrowK> Thanks
[06:12] <BlitzerHound> Hey y'all
[06:13] <BlitzerHound> I'm so happy, my brother gave me a new laptop. But I wanted to know how I can check the specs and such on ubuntu. Is there something I should type into terminal?
[06:16] <ElectrumGuy> so install ubuntu on a usb, could I just boot up a USB with the installer, then install it on a different USB.
[06:16] <ElectrumGuy> and use that USB as the boot media
[06:16] <ElectrumGuy> like, is it that easy?
[06:16] <OerHeks> lsusb lscpu lspci lshw
[06:16] <BlitzerHound> Are those the things for the specs?
[06:16] <ivan> yep
[06:17] <BlitzerHound> Awesome, thank you
[06:17] <ElectrumGuy> is that yep for me or for BlitzerHound
[06:17] <OerHeks> ElectrumGuy, that could work, check wher the bootloader grub is installed, make sure it is the same usb device
[06:17] <ElectrumGuy> cool.
[06:17] <ElectrumGuy> OerHeks, I have 8 3tb drives
[06:17] <ElectrumGuy> I was going to use freenas again but the ne freenas (corral) is garbage
[06:18] <ElectrumGuy> just going to try and setup a raid 5 in ubuntu, but have the OS on a USB.
[06:18] <BlitzerHound> Huh. I don't understand any of this stuff, but I'm pretty sure it's a good computer lol
[06:20] <azizLIGHT> !avconv
[06:29] <alkisg> ElectrumGuy: why don't you put the os in the 3 drives too?
[06:29] <alkisg> (sure you can easily use a usb like you said)
[06:30] <ElectrumGuy> alkisg, I don't really want to do that
[06:30] <ElectrumGuy> for reasons
[06:30] <Landeskog> sorry if this is a dumb question im new to nix and i keep having to enterxrandr --output HDMI-1 --set underscan on     to get 1920x1080 to fit    then when i reboot its gone   any easy way to make this perm?
[06:30] <alkisg> ok
[06:44] <banyantree> Hi Guys! I need some help please. Its about pwmcontrol for the systemfans of my asus p5b
[06:45] <Easyrider> banyantree asus fan control isn't that great in the current kernel.  I have ASUS M8F mobo
[06:46] <banyantree> pwmconfig says There are no pwm-capable sensor modules ....
[06:46] <banyantree> Easyrider: It's not really working for me
[06:46] <Easyrider> yep.  The kernel has not been updated to discover the sensors on many ASUS mobos yet
[06:48] <banyantree> Easyrider: shet. My mashine sounds like an airplane during takeoff
[06:49] <Easyrider> I had the same issue when I built this machine.  Still waiting for the developers to add my mobo's sensors to the kernel.  This is a common problem for many people especially those doing builds on recently released hardware
[06:50] <banyantree> hmmm
[06:51] <banyantree> Easyrider: thx for the info!
[06:51] <Easyrider> no worries
[06:52] <BlitzerHound> Is there a GUI that will tell me more about my computers specs and stuff or can I only see it via terminal? Because I can't tell anything about it from the commands I was given.
[06:53] <selckin> what spec do you want to know
[06:53] <ducasse> BlitzerHound: which did you install - 'plain' ubuntu, xubuntu etc?
[06:54] <Easyrider> System Settings would be a good icon to click on
[06:54] <BlitzerHound> I dunno. I just want to know if the computer my brother gave me is any good. Like, can I play mine craft on it? Am I still not able to play games? That kind of stuff.
[06:54] <BlitzerHound> c And no I didn't.
[06:56] <ducasse> BlitzerHound: well, try your games, see if they work well.
[06:57] <BlitzerHound> I just got this, though. I don't know how good this is so I don't want to install anything before I know if it can handle it.
[06:57] <BlitzerHound> I don't have any games on it at the moment.
[06:58] <ducasse> BlitzerHound: did you install ubuntu or did it come with it?
[06:58] <Some_Person> I have full disk encryption set up on my laptop, and have been thinking about enabling automatic logon. I just tried it, but when it log in, I am prompted for the password anyway to unlock the login keyring. I assume this behavior is intentional, but doesn't it kinda defeat the purpose of automatic login? Is there any way around it that wouldn't compromise security?
[06:58] <ivan> BlitzerHound: you could look up the laptop model...
[06:58] <BlitzerHound> Well the computer belonged to someone else, and I didn't know the password so I just redid it with the ubuntu install media I had from installing it on the other laptop I have.
[06:59] <BlitzerHound> Huh. That's actually a pretty good idea lol. @ivan
[06:59] <ducasse> BlitzerHound: or just look under system settings.
[07:00] <BlitzerHound> I looked under system settings and I think it tells me what I'm trying to figure out.
[07:01] <BlitzerHound> It says Memory: 2.7GiB
[07:01] <BlitzerHound> Is that the ram?
[07:01] <Easyrider> some_person setting up auto login pretty much defeats the idea of disk encryption
[07:01] <Some_Person> Easyrider: How so?
[07:02] <Easyrider> encryption is to keep snooping eyes out of your system.
[07:02] <Some_Person> Easyrider: You still have to enter the password to decrypt the disk
[07:03] <Easyrider> In any case, the keyring password isn't related to the encrypted dick ...at least I don't think it is.  On my OpenSuSe systems they are seperate
[07:03] <Some_Person> I wouldn't expect it to be
[07:04] <Some_Person> but it seems to me that auto login is pretty useless if you still have to enter a password
[07:04] <Easyrider> You also have your $HOME directory encrypted which doesn't get unencrypted until you log in.
[07:06] <Easyrider> If you don't want to enter a password then you do not want a secure system.  I don't know if you can decrypt a file system on the fly in Ubuntu.  You may have to rebuild the install to accomplish that.
[07:09] <Easyrider> BlitzerHound You'll have a difficult time running games with less than 3 Gig of RAM
[07:10] <BlitzerHound> Oh I see. o3o
[07:10] <acoolernick> BlitzerHound: I use Hardinfo for a GUI that covers a range of hardware info and some benchmarks, it's available in Ubuntu Software Center
[07:10] <BlitzerHound> Well, still it's a big improvement from my 512MB ram lol
[07:11] <BlitzerHound> I'll try that out acoolernick, thanks
[07:13] <acoolernick> Blitzerhound: 2.7 GiB is fine for most things, the system can run under 1 G, leaving at least another 1.7 for a game; more RAM is necessary for only the most intensive games, making videos, or running virtual machines
[07:25] <aruga> test
[07:25] <ducasse> aruga: do that in ##test
[07:25] <Landeskog> anyone know how i can get xrandr --output HDMI-1 --set underscan on    to fuckin stay perm i keep havin to enter than to get 1920x1080 to fit then its gone on reboot
[07:27] <ducasse> !language | Landeskog
[07:27] <Landeskog> sorry
[07:29] <ducasse> Landeskog: you can add it to ~/.xsessionrc, which is run on starting your x session
[07:29] <Landeskog> i managed to get grub menu to be 1920x1080 but the loggin screen and tty1 are still wrong
[07:32] <ivan> maybe GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1920x1080 in /etc/default/grub (followed by update-grub) will help
[07:35] <Landeskog> i got that already
[07:39] <Landeskog> grub menu is 1920x1080 no problem but not tty1 or login screen
[07:39] <Landeskog> i have to run xrandr --output HDMI-1 --set underscan on   once i login to get it to fit
[07:40] <Landeskog> its at that resolution i should say it just doesnt fit the screen    until i run the xrandr --output HDMI-1 --set underscan on   so im looking for a way to make that run right off the bat i guess
[07:50] <ghishadow> quit
[07:50] <ducasse> Landeskog: i told you what to do to get it to run when you login through the gui
[07:51] <ivan> Landeskog: the grub menu is unaffected by GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX
[07:51] <ivan> (that's another thing)
[07:53] <Landeskog> when i start my pc now.    it boots to the grub menu because im dual booting windows 10.   the grub menu is 1920x1080 resolution perfect because i edited /etc/default/grub   but after i click kubuntu and i see the login screen   its at 1920x1080 but its to big for my screen if that makes sense       if it hit ctrl f1 or whatever it is to get to the cmd
[07:53] <Landeskog> prompt  tty1      it is also   in 1920x1080 but to big for the screen  but once i login your script activates and its good
[07:53] <Landeskog>
[07:53] <Landeskog> hope that explains it a little better sorry
[07:55] <Sinned> coffeetime! :d
[07:59] <ducasse> Landeskog: if you're using kubuntu you are most likely using sddm. i don't know how to get that to execute a command when it starts, you could try #kubuntu or google.
[08:00] <Kali_Yuga> hi trying to install phpmyadmin I always get this error when choosing my password: http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=38227656 any idea what i can do? ubuntu server 16.04
[08:01] <Sinned> specify a port?
[08:02] <Sinned> and check passwd requirements
[08:02] <Kali_Yuga> Sinned: how & where?
[08:02] <Kali_Yuga> Sinned: I tried multiple passwords
[08:03] <Sinned> I guess you run MySQL? check the config
[08:04] <Kali_Yuga> Sinned: I might do have to use special characters
[08:05] <Kali_Yuga> okay
[08:05] <Kali_Yuga> needed special characters
[08:25] <brunch875> Hello! I need to use some outdated libs to flash my phone. I intend to get 14.04 and use it temporarily for the operation
[08:25] <brunch875> can I do this without installing it?
[08:26] <brunch875> Would it be possible to apt-get things in the liveUSB? I never tried
[08:27] <ducasse> brunch875: should be fine
[08:28] <brunch875> neat, thanks ducasse :)
[08:29] <ducasse> brunch875: also, you could easily use a container
[08:31] <brunch875> ducasse: I'm scared it could interact with the tools and end up bricking my phone
[08:31] <Kali_Yuga> well I got to here.. but when i attempt to log in into filezilla: Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
[08:31] <Kali_Yuga> forgot link http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=15714119
[08:32] <ducasse> brunch875: i wouldn't worry, it would go through the kernel on the host
[08:33] <brunch875> ducasse: which container would you use, and how do I get started?
[08:34] <ducasse> brunch875: lxc/lxd are both easy to set up and use, there are plenty of starter guides online. lxd is the 'new' thing from canonical, probably better to learn that
[08:35] <brunch875> alright thanks :)
[08:36] <ducasse> brunch875: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/getting-started-with-lxd-the-container-lightervisor/
[08:37] <gsantner> can someone post me the original ubuntu gnome-terminal color theme? You can find it using dconf -> /org/gnome/terminal/*profiles
[08:38] <sebsebseb> hi
[08:53] <wrksx> hello there
[08:53] <wrksx> I've got weird issues on my box
[08:53] <wrksx> (ubuntu)
[08:54] <wrksx> Cannot use sudo, it says segmentation fault
[08:55] <wrksx> I wcannot write to my home, even if it apears like I got w permission set up
[08:56] <Ben64> wrksx: ls -ld ~/
[08:57] <nanodrone> has anyone else experienced speed/lag issues with gnome3 compared to unity7?
[08:57] <wrksx> drwxr-xr-x
[08:58] <wrksx> Ben64, ^
[08:58] <Ben64> why did you only paste a part of it
[08:58] <wrksx> why do you need the rest
[08:58] <Ben64> k good luck
[08:59] <wrksx> drwxr-xr-x 6 pj pj 4096 Apr  8 10:51 /home/pj/
[08:59] <wrksx> is that better?
[08:59] <wrksx> Ben64, thanks have a good one.
[09:01] <ducasse> wrksx: what does 'touch ~/testfile' say?
[09:01] <wrksx> touch: cannot touch 'dfg': Read-only file system
[09:02] <ducasse> wrksx: ah, there's your problem. is /home part of the root fs or a separate filesystem?
[09:03] <wrksx> ducasse, not the root
[09:04] <ducasse> wrksx: look at 'dmesg' for filesystem/disk errors
[09:04] <wrksx> ducasse, I meant it's separate
[09:04] <wrksx> dmesg
[09:04] <wrksx> Bus error
[09:05] <wrksx> that's ugly
[09:05] <ducasse> wrksx: you should probably boot a live usb and examine the system from there, could be a sata controller or disk issue.
[09:05] <ducasse> or memory problem.
[09:06] <wrksx> ducasse, it's a dedicated box I cannot live CD unfortunatly
[09:06] <wrksx> but I might call the hoster
[09:07] <ducasse> wrksx: see if you can read the logs in /var/log
[09:08] <wrksx> ducasse tail: error reading '/var/log/dmesg': Input/output error
[09:08] <wrksx> but tail /var/log/auth.log works
[09:09] <wrksx> but last message is from yesterday which doesn't seem ok
[09:09] <ad> hi all
[09:10] <sebsebseb> ad: hi
[09:10] <ad> i'm on LTS, and when i put the OS in standby. At wake up, logon screen is 'locked'. no possibility to enter password and unlock..
[09:13] <ducasse> wrksx: try syslog and kern.log
[09:14] <wrksx> syslog readable, last line timestamp is 16 hours ago
[09:15] <wrksx>  /var/log/kern.log.1
[09:15] <ducasse> wrksx: see if 'mount' reports / is also mounted read-only
[09:15] <wrksx> input output error, and kern.log empty
[09:16] <wrksx> -????????? ? ?       ?         ?            ? kern.log.1
[09:16] <wrksx> that was a ls
[09:16] <wrksx> fuck me
[09:16] <ducasse> wrksx: language, please
[09:16] <wrksx> oh really
[09:16] <wrksx> my appoligize
[09:17] <ducasse> wrksx: this looks pretty bad, i'd get in touch with the hoster.
[09:17] <wrksx> indeed
[09:17] <ducasse> wrksx: without physical access i think it's limited what you can do, especially without logs
[09:18] <wrksx> of course
[09:18] <wrksx> ls
[09:20] <wrksx> ducasse, thanks for the help
[09:34] <ychost> hello ?
[09:36] <alkisg> ychost: hi
[09:37] <CorvusCorax> Hi, On Unity Desktop, the windo manager responds to certain key combinations (like alt+F1, alt+F4, ...)  I am running a program (Milkytracker) that uses the same key combo for an internal feature/shortcut, but whenever I press the keys the window manager handles them instead of the application. Can I temporarily turn off all or most key combos handled by the window manager?
[09:39] <nanodrone> CorvusCorax, go to unity control center -> keyboard settings, you'll find the shortcuts there prolly under windows/navigation, reassign them or turn them off
[09:42] <CorvusCorax> @nanodrone, that would turn them off permanently, I'd have to re-assign each an every one of them back to what they were afterwards, wouldn't I?
[09:44] <motie> Bad when programs use system key combos
[09:44] <CorvusCorax> well the thing is, every system has different key combos
[09:47] <motie> Yes but still, you make a program on linux and make keycombos that conflicts with unity?
[09:48] <CorvusCorax> well that program was originally made for amigaOS, then ported to DOS, windows, OSX, linux, haiku and wince and android, while having the same key assignments
[09:49] <CorvusCorax> u can't change the entire workflow just because one insignificant OS (or even less, just one window manager) decides to have that key combo for some system operation. if you took them all into account there'd no useable key combos left
[09:49] <motie> i can see that now, was looking it up. Looks cool, like from the old days. :;-)
[09:49] <motie> :-)
[09:50] <Ben64> CorvusCorax: so change it
[09:50] <motie> It plays what wee called »Demo's« back then ??
[09:51] <ducasse> CorvusCorax: the best thing would be to permanently reassign those shortcuts in unity, as alt+key should be left for applications to use imo
[09:51] <CorvusCorax> i had issues like that before with a 3d modelling program under IceWM, it used ctrl+shift+alt in different combos + cursor keys and mouse wheel for different editing motions in 3d. unfortunately some of them were used by icewm and not changeable. isn't there a way to tell a window on the Xserver to take precedence over manager while active?
[09:51] <Ben64> no
[09:52] <kumar> hello
[09:52] <CorvusCorax> @motie, yeah, well a full fledged demo is more than just the music, but tracks are an essential part of demos
[09:53] <kumar> :)
[09:54] <motie> CorvusCorax: Yes i all forgot about flashing math graphics.
[09:55] <stevehope> does the announcement of the future or lack of for unity effect the future of snaps and snapcraft?
[09:55] <k1l_> stevehope: no
[09:56] <sebsebseb> stevehope: kind of off topic, but not so much.  Unity 8  and Ubuntu touch will continue at least for mobile under the main porter to phones it seems.   Unity 7 will probably just not be developed anymore.  and  Snaps works for Canonical from a commercial perspective with servers and clouds etc, partners, so that will stay probably
[09:56] <stevehope> Thanks, I thought I should ask
[09:57] <k1l_> snaps will stay, since that is part of the IoT and cloud section that is the main focus now.
[09:57] <stevehope> snaps off topic in ubuntu romm? lol its the Ubuntu's packaging system
[09:57] <motie> CorvusCorax: are there still a demo scene ?
[09:57] <sebsebseb> stevehope: ffuture of ubunt knd of is
[09:59] <ducasse> sebsebseb: it's off topic if you aren't asking technical support questions
[09:59] <ducasse> stevehope: ^^
[09:59] <ducasse> sorry, sebsebseb ;)
[10:00] <ychost> my nvidia gtx 1070 can
[10:00] <ychost> my nvidia gtx 1070 can'
[10:00] <ychost> my nvidia gtx 1070 can't use unity8
[10:00] <ychost> so i change my os to deepin
[10:01] <stevehope> my bad
[10:02] <k1l_> ychost: deepin is not supported
[10:02] <ducasse> stevehope: if you want to discuss snaps and the future, there is #ubuntu-discuss
[10:02] <ychost> thanks
[10:03] <ducasse> ychost: try #deepin
[10:08] <wudo_honour> hi, guys,  when i change ip in /etc/network/interfaces and restart networking , but ip not changed, why?
[10:09] <fui_> @wudo_honour are you on a network with dhcp or you always manually set your ip or is it for file sharing with another computer?
[10:11] <wudo_honour> fui_  it is happended only in ubuntu 16.04 lts
[10:11] <fui_> wudo_honour: are you trying to connect to the internet or to another pc?
[10:14] <JustCurious> Hello, I have a problem with a Seagate Backup Plus (external HD). It's exfat formatted (on Windows 7). It's plug and play and it's automatically mounted on Ubuntu Mate 17.04, but on Ubuntu 12.04 it's not detected, it doesn't show even on lsusb output. Any idea? I've tried the command rmmod uas, but the result is ERROR: Module uas does not exist in /proc/modules.
[10:19] <wudo_honour> 5~5~5~5~5~
[10:22] <EriC^^> JustCurious: does anything show in "dmesg" after you plug it in?
[10:31] <JustCurious> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/24339826/
[10:32] <Pessimist> JustCurious, so what is wrong? Does /dev/sdb exist?
[10:32] <JustCurious> no
[10:32] <JustCurious> it's like it's invisible to the system
[10:32] <JustCurious> not in /dev
[10:32] <ducasse> JustCurious: what does 'lsblk' say?
[10:33] <JustCurious> not listed in /lsusb
[10:33] <JustCurious> not listed in lsblk
[10:33] <SimonNL> and in disks
[10:33] <JustCurious> sorry
[10:33] <JustCurious> yes it's listed in lsblk as sdb
[10:33] <JustCurious> now I've seen it
[10:34] <JustCurious> ajb@ajb-ubuntu:~$ lsblk
[10:34] <JustCurious> NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
[10:34] <JustCurious> sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom
[10:34] <JustCurious> sda      8:0    0   1,8T  0 disk
[10:34] <JustCurious> ├─sda1   8:1    0     1M  0 part
[10:34] <JustCurious> ├─sda2   8:2    0   200M  0 part
[10:34] <ducasse> !paste | JustCurious
[10:37] <fui_> JustCurious: check if its available in your /dev/sd*  with this command you might see the drive with a partition label
[10:37] <JustCurious> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24339839/
[10:37] <fui_> JustCurious: ooops some i replied late
[10:38] <JustCurious> yes, now I can see /dev/sdb
[10:38] <ducasse> JustCurious: just looks like it's unpartitioned
[10:38] <JustCurious> no, it's exfat
[10:38] <JustCurious> it works and it's recognized on Ubuntu Mate 17.04
[10:38] <JustCurious> not in 12.04
[10:38] <JustCurious> I think it's a USB port question
[10:38] <fui_> JustCurious: I think you don't have the exfat drivers on your ubuntu 12.04 thats why
[10:39] <JustCurious> I installed sudo fsck_exfat
[10:39] <JustCurious> exfat-fuse
[10:40] <asgsgd> what can i say, i just dont like the way linux handles "everything" like a file and then everything basically means... oops, almost nothing
[10:41] <alkisg> Does anyone know what will happen if someone with Ubuntu 12.04 runs apt-get update in May? Will it say "no updates found" or "no repositories found"?
[10:41] <fui_> JustCurious: i am assuming you installed with the right names although your syntax is wrong... from what I can see online, after install exfat-fuse, exfat-utils & fuse-exfat it should work
[10:41] <fui_> else I guess I am los
[10:41] <fui_> *lost
[10:42] <k1l> alkisg: some time after EOL the repos get shut down, yes
[10:42] <alkisg> k1l: I'm interested in if schools will have the chance to end the school year without warnings, i.e. May specifically...
[10:42] <k1l> JustCurious: what does "dmesg" say after you plug it in?
[10:43] <JustCurious> fuse-exfat not found
[10:44] <k1l> alkisg: after the EOL there is the time when updates can still be run, but there are no updates on the servers. and after that the repos servers get shut down at all. so the updates will report an error
[10:44] <alkisg> k1l: right, I was asking for the deadline, if it's after may or not...
[10:44] <alkisg> I.e. the time when the repositories move to old-releases
[10:45] <JustCurious> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24339871/
[10:45] <k1l> alkisg: usually that was "some time" the last releases. i am not aware of a timeschedule there. maybe the release team knows of a set timeframe
[10:46] <alkisg> ty k1l :)
[10:46] <danzizi> new xorg edition works great........
[10:47] <k1l> JustCurious: its possible that the old kernel and old packages cant handle the 4TB drive properly
[10:48] <JustCurious> [sdb] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
[10:48] <JustCurious> but with another external 4TB external drive it handles it properly ...
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:58] <tmch2> Hi! Are there 'updates' and 'security' repos for arm? I tried to add them, but I get an error 404 now. Do I get security patches and updates with only 'main'?
[10:59] <BluesKaj> tmch2:  for rpi ?
[10:59] <tmch2> Sort of. It's called Cubietruck.
[11:02] <tmch2> I upgraded it to 14.04. I remember editing sources.list, but it only has the two lines for 'main'.
[11:04] <BluesKaj> tmch2: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[11:06] <marcoagpinto> Hi
[11:06] <khyrthy> hello !!!
[11:06] <marcoagpinto> where is the roadmap?
[11:06] <marcoagpinto> :)
[11:07] <tmch2> BluesKaj: Thank you, I'm going to try it!
[11:08] <BluesKaj> tmch2:  just make sure you don't go overboard with too many unneeded sources
[11:08] <khyrthy> hello?
[11:09] <marcoagpinto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule
[11:09] <marcoagpinto> I had to google for it :((((((
[11:10] <marcoagpinto> the official site doesn't link to it
[11:11] <tmch2> It didn't work. It didn't even ask me about the architecture.
[11:16] <hirano> 愛
[11:16] <EriC^^> !jp | hirano
[11:21] <hirano> 追い出す気か
[11:23] <hirano> これからはこれに使用
[11:23] <hirano> ぴゅ
[11:23] <hirano> 出ちゃった
[11:23] <hirano> これからここで話すぞ
[11:24] <hirano> いう
[11:24] <hirano> 余計なことを口挟むから朝から仕事でお乱用にされるのだ
[11:24] <hirano> 内藤おジーちゃん
[11:25] <hirano> よ！
[11:25] <hirano> 入社して１０年になる早いもんだ
[11:26] <hirano> うつぼが出て行った
[11:27] <hirano> 稼がせてもらった分頑張って勉強した
[11:27] <EriC^^> !jp | hirano
[11:27] <hirano> EU
[11:27] <hirano> 要ロッパ共同台
[11:28] <hirano> 何言ってるかわからんよ
[11:29] <wrksx> ducasse, my hoster actually had a nice rescue/console mode so I've been able to boot on another system an I've been able to mount my partitions.
[11:29] <hirano> サーバー作れるし
[11:29] <hirano> Linux使える
[11:29] <wrksx> unfortunatly some of them had orphan inodes that were delted on the mount
[11:29] <ducasse> hirano: this channel is english only, please try #ubuntu-jp
[11:29] <wrksx> don't know what are inodes but it doesn't sound good
[11:29] <hirano> Windowssevenをサーバーにできる
[11:30] <hirano> ducasse:OK!
[11:32] <hirano> tadaima
[11:33] <hirano> takusannorua
[11:33] <hirano> pyupyu
[11:33] <hirano> dhifficult
[11:44] <nanodrone> ubuntu 16.10, i can't tap to click with my touch pad :(
[11:48] <markmullins> hi
[11:48] <ducasse> nanodrone: look at the output from 'synclient', and change the options you want. you're probably interested in the tap* options.
[11:48] <nanodrone> ducasse, it was working fine earlier
[11:49] <nanodrone> it says coudln't find properties, no synaptics drivers loaded
[11:49] <ducasse> nanodrone: have you upgraded anything?
[11:49] <nanodrone> i came back from gnome3 to unity
[11:50] <nanodrone> ran upgrade, i'm on 16.10
[11:50] <ducasse> have you rebooted lately?
[11:50] <nanodrone> yup, more than 6 times already
[11:52] <ducasse> then i have no other suggestions, sorry.
[11:53] <nanodrone> i was kinda hoping i wont have to reinstall ubuntu for a tiny issue :(
[11:55] <madlatvian> join linux.conf.au
[12:00] <ZeZu> nanodrone, did you try to dpkg-reconfigure synaptics ?
[12:00] <nanodrone> ZeZu, nope
[12:00] <ZeZu> worth a shot
[12:00] <nanodrone> what does it do
[12:01] <ZeZu> dpkg-reconfigure does what it sounds like it reconfigures a package (does setup like it was newly installed)
[12:01] <nanodrone> i tried, no output
[12:01] <ZeZu> so it'll change all settings back to how they were
[12:01] <nanodrone> should i reboot
[12:01] <ZeZu> there won't be any output
[12:02] <ZeZu> yes you can reboot,  I don't know if it would be needed but might want to
[12:03] <nanodrone> okay rebooting now
[12:03] <ZeZu> Ugh i have my own input issue,  volume keys always randomly don't work  in kde/plasma  .. they are setup to in global keyboard shortcuts and were working for a while yesterday :|
[12:04] <ZeZu> Always the worst kindof situation to debug is one that isn't always reproducable
[12:09] <ducasse> ZeZu: 16.04?
[12:09] <ZeZu> 16.10
[12:10] <beeman> hi
[12:10] <ducasse> ZeZu: then i don't know, other than that in a few days 17.04 will be released so you can see if that changes things.
[12:10] <beeman> how can i find out myself that apt-cache doesn't required root?
[12:11] <ZeZu> ducasse,  I think i am updated to 17.04 actually
[12:11] <ZeZu> I forget I just installed it over kde-neon yesterday
[12:13] <ducasse> ZeZu: well, 17.04 is not released yet, so problems are to be expected.
[12:13] <ducasse> ZeZu: also, it's supported in #ubuntu+1
[12:13] <eric__> yes
[12:14] <ZeZu> ducasse,  yes I know and it's been a problem with kde consistantly .. one of the reasons i switched to kde-neon in the first place ( as well as to checkout newer plasma and kdevelop with newer version of Qt i was working with )
[12:15] <ZeZu> So it's happened in 16.04,16.10 and still in 17.04 ... I don't know if it's just with this keyboard in particular?  I would imagine or it would be fixed by now
[12:16] <ducasse> ZeZu: have you asked in #kubuntu?
[12:16] <ducasse> ZeZu: but don't do that while on 17.04, it's unsupported there
[12:17] <ZeZu> I probably have and in #kde
[12:17] <ZeZu> I think the response was more of,  well it works so you must have it configured wrong :|
[12:18] <Eightynine> For some reason Chromium freezes for a few seconds when restoring session. Has anybody the same problem with Chromium/Chrome or any other browser?
[12:22] <madlatvian> hi
[12:23] <jhusen-gnom1502> hello, im from indonesia
[12:24] <madlatvian> im from Aus
[12:24] <jhusen-gnom1502> nice to meet u broo
[12:25] <madlatvian> nah Broo is New zealand
[12:25] <madlatvian> Mate is Australian
[12:25] <madlatvian> ;)
[12:26] <jhusen-gnom1502> do u speak indonesian?
[12:28] <tomreyn> Eightynine: slow disk? full file system?
[12:28] <tomreyn> also clear your cache.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> !id | jhusen-gnom1502
[12:30] <nanodrone> this fixed it: cp /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
[12:31] <nanodrone> gnome 3.20 replaced my drivers -_-
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Eightynine:  sudo apt autoremove
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Eightynine:  especially if you use separate / and /home partitions
[12:33] <ZeZu> nanodrone,  cool weird that dpkg reconfigure didn't do that for you, good that you got it working though
[12:34] <nanodrone> yup, i was on the brink of reinstalling Ubuntu, that would have been painful indeed.
[12:34] <nanodrone> I got the solution from an Arch Linux forum post.
[12:35] <nanodrone> documenting it on my blog now
[12:39] <ali1234> hi, i just installed ubuntu-gnome and mouse scrolling is reverse. how do i fit it?
[12:39] <ali1234> *fix
[12:40] <nanodrone> ali1234, settings > mouse/touchpad > natural scrolling
[12:40] <Guest94512> exit
[12:40] <ali1234> i have tried changing that setting, it did not make any difference
[12:40] <Guest94512> quit
[12:40] <Guest94512> #news
[12:41] <nanodrone> no idea then.
[12:41] <nanodrone> sorry
[12:41] <Guest94512> exit?
[12:41] <ali1234> Guest94512:  /quit
[12:41] <Guest94512> thanks /quit
[12:42] <marvin2> hello. I am trying to mount windows share directory but without lucky. I have this in fstab: //<IP_ADDRESS>/E_data /media/i7 cifs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8  0  0
[12:42] <ali1234> does evolution have a conversation view?
[12:42] <marvin2> if I type mount -a I get this: unc name specified twice, ignoring second. mount: mounting //<IP_ADDRESS>/E_data on /media/i7 failed: Invalid argument
[12:42] <kyllitchat> kikoooo
[12:43] <marvin2> also mount error(13): Permission denied
[12:43] <ali1234> how do i maximize windows?
[12:45] <stevehope> use the little + in the upper right corner of window (equivalent of mazimize in windows
[12:45] <ali1234> there is no + only x
[12:45] <stevehope> fix size window
[12:45] <oniichan> hello
[12:45] <stevehope> fixed*
[12:45] <ali1234> its firefox
[12:45] <oniichan> hello
[12:46] <stevehope> the window control (in whgatever) made the window a fixed size
[12:46] <stevehope> whats exactly is the issue?
[12:46] <ali1234> i cant maximize any window
[12:47] <ali1234> because no window has a maximize button
[12:47] <ali1234> i just installed ubuntu gnome
[12:47] <oniichan> anyone can;t help me to cracking hash-password ?
[12:49] <ducasse> oniichan: no, we don't help people with things like that.
[12:50] <oniichan> ducasse: oh i see
[12:50] <stevehope> im not up to speed on gnome, use xfce, try in the settings
[12:50] <stevehope> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gnome-tweak-tool/
[12:52] <stevehope> xfce doesn't need a tweak tool as the settings are availible already
[12:52] <ali1234> ah much better
[12:55] <stevehope> @ali1234 that work for you?
[12:55] <ali1234> yes
[12:55] <ali1234> this is actually pretty good
[12:57] <stevehope> its a great tool, part of the reason i like Xunbuntu over Ubuntu is it uses xfce as the GUI, and built with the idea it's your system, no need to dumb down configuration of settings
[12:57] <ali1234> i already use xubuntu
[12:58] <ali1234> i'm trying to learn hom gnome works
[12:58] <ali1234> *how
[12:58] <stevehope> lol preaching to the choir
[12:59] <ali1234> ow can i make the top bar show on all workspaces?
[12:59] <stevehope> btw you can have GUI's on the same install/user, and select between em at login
[13:08] <stormcloud> I have a question... In settings on 16.04 Settings/Software&Updates/Updates - Notify me of new Ubuntu Versions...
[13:08] <zach_> Sup guys
[13:08] <PipeItToDevNull> Heloo
[13:09] <stormcloud> Will this cancel upgrade to 16.04.3?
[13:09] <zach_> Anyone running the newest .72 kernel?
[13:10] <stormcloud> I am running 49
[13:11] <stormcloud> or 46.. Can't remember.
[13:11] <zach_> ah okay, just upgraded. Is 16.04.3 out yet?
[13:11] <stormcloud> No, but if I mark that for no updates I wonder if I can still get the 16.04 family?
[13:13] <zach_> That is a really good question. I would believe so. Are you all excited for Gnome being the new default DE? lol
[13:15] <stormcloud> I haven't heard about that... I only use Ubuntu on a 32 bit Laptop. Everything else is Solus.
[13:16] <k1l> stormcloud: you are mixing kernel updates with release updates.
[13:16] <ducasse> stormcloud: if you are on 16.04.2 now you will get .3 automatically, no matter what you select there.
[13:16] <k1l> stormcloud: and 16.04.3 is not a new release like 16.10 is. its just a point-release. which is like the servicepack on windows
[13:17] <zach_> Dat LTS.
[13:17] <stormcloud> awesome... I didn't want it to try to update to 18.04 when the time comes. I heard Ubuntu is terminating support for 32 bit. So keep it on 16.04 is important.
[13:17] <k1l> stormcloud: and one should not block kernel updates. look at ubuntu.com/usn
[13:18] <k1l> stormcloud: 16.04 got 5 years support. meanwhile it will become 16.04.1 16.04.2 16.04.3 .....
[13:18] <stormcloud> When did I block kernal updates?
[13:19] <k1l> stormcloud: sorry, then i misread your messages about kernel releaes
[13:19] <stormcloud> I was telling zach that i have .46
[13:19] <stormcloud> What about using the dist-upgrade in termial. Should I not use that?
[13:20] <zach_> Is .46 the highest kernel you can update to?
[13:20] <ducasse> stormcloud: 18.04 will be dropping 32-bit images aiui, but the repos will contain 32-bit packages
[13:21] <stormcloud> ducasse: Thanks!
[13:21] <jamesleimer> hi
[13:21] <k1l> stormcloud: ubuntu doesnt use apt to upgrade to the next ubuntu release
[13:21] <stormcloud> k1l: I knew that... I don't know why I asked.
[13:21] <stormcloud> LoL
[13:22] <k1l> stormcloud: better use the new command "sudo apt full-upgrade" which is phrased a bit better and doesnt confuse with naming "dist"
[13:23] <stormcloud> full-upgrade would do next LTS or 16.04.3? when it comes out?
 stormcloud: ubuntu doesnt use apt to upgrade to the next ubuntu release
[13:23] <ducasse> stormcloud: no, just regular updates
[13:24] <stormcloud> like the new kernals and so etc....
[13:24] <ducasse> stormcloud: .3 is just a kernel/x stack upgrade
[13:24] <k1l> and i dont know why you are scared of 16.04.3. you cant not become 16.04.3 because that is the state of all updates up to this date
[13:24] <k1l> stormcloud: once installed you wont get new kernel upgrade. it will stay on 4.4 kernel
[13:24] <stormcloud> I am not wanting past the 16.04 family...
[13:25] <stormcloud> Not scared of 16.0.
[13:25] <stormcloud> 3
[13:25] <stormcloud> 4 or 5
[13:25] <k1l> so run regular updates. it will stay on 4.4 kernel base.
[13:25] <stormcloud> Don't want 16.10 or newer.
[13:26] <nanodrone> uname -r: 4.11.0-041100rc3-generic
[13:26] <k1l> stormcloud: yes, we explained you now several times that this is not an issue
[13:26] <stormcloud> Thanks for your time.
[13:26] <stormcloud> :D
[13:26] <pth> Can ping wireless printer from one computer on local network but not the other. Why?
[13:27] <stevehope> the other computer doesnt have rights to access printer
[13:27] <zach_> x86_64 Linux 4.4.0-71-generic
[13:27] <zach_> Thats what I am up to on mine.
[13:27] <pth> stevehope. How to check?
[13:27] <stormcloud> 4.8.0-46 is on mine.
[13:28] <stevehope> on the one that wont connect open printers and look for network printers
[13:28] <zach_> Ah nice. How did you get up to 4.8?
[13:28] <pth> stevehope: OK. Stand by.
[13:28] <stevehope> add (plus icon) .....
[13:29] <stormcloud> 4.9.20-12 on my Solus machine.
[13:29] <stormcloud> Thanks for all your help guys.. Have a great day.
[13:30] <GIoans> hello
[13:30] <pth> stevehope: Did: Add > Network Printer > Find Netw. printer > IP Adress, got answer No printer found on that address
[13:31] <pth> stevehope: Is it not a network problem rather than a printer problem?
[13:31] <GIoans> do you know store template free for website?
[13:32] <isene> OK, I'm officially going bonkers here.  Any more specific ideas as to what the problem can be? I cant ping.
[13:35] <ducasse> pth: can you ping other devices on the local network?
[13:36] <pth> ducasse: Yes, I can ping the other ubuntu machines. Only I can't ping printer from machine 2, but from machine 1 I can.
[13:36] <stevehope> whats your operating system, and printer including model, and name of configuration manager. I can't give specific suggestions for "my printer"
[13:37] <lucas-arg> hello unityless people
[13:37] <stevehope> :)
[13:37] <diogenes_> RIP unity
[13:37] <Sinned> thank god the terminal stays
[13:37] <Sinned> :p
[13:38] <lucas-arg> lol
[13:38] <diogenes_> maybe not for too long
[13:38] <pth> stevehope: Thank you for your efforts, but don't you also think it is a network problem when I can't ping, rather than a printer settings/permissions problem?
[13:40] <stevehope> good luck, it's pointless for my to try to assist if you refuse to provide information such as what Operating System, and hardware you are having issues with
[13:42] <lucas-arg> I dont see any sence of deliverying ubuntu 17.04 with unity if they are done with it
[13:43] <ducasse> pth: he's right. operating system and make/model of printer is kind of essential information.
[13:43] <PipeItToDevNull> lucas-arg, because they need to get gnome ready
[13:43] <stevehope> it had to get dropped at some point
[13:44] <pth> stevehope: OK, sorry. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, HP Envy  97515
[13:44] <k1l> lucas-arg: unity-desktop will move to universe repo, like the kde packages. but gnome-shell is not all that perfect to be shipped without adjustments and testing
[13:45] <ducasse> pth: is this all one subnet?
[13:45] <pth> ducasse: Unsure. How to check?
[13:46] <lucas-arg> i dont get either if the will be more a cloud os or are they gonna be a desktop os, i mean, linuxs being trying to get into desktop computers, ubuntu was making that change, i dont know if marks annoucements makes any change to that view or pathway
[13:47] <lucas-arg> dont get me wrong ive used ubuntu as my main os since hardy but now i feel lost
[13:47] <k1l> lucas-arg: ubuntu desktop will still be present a long time. mark did clarify that on google+
[13:48] <ducasse> pth: you would most likely know if it wasn't.
[13:49] <pth> ducasse: I don't know. The IP adresses are the same but for the last number.
[13:50] <ducasse> pth: ok, sounds like one subnet, although you would need to check the netmask on each device to make sure. i doubt that's it, though.
[13:50] <mrete> k1l: :) why thing i not in chanels
[13:51] <mrete> del banns
[13:51] <goldernan> Hi. I'm in a bit of a pickle. I installed a kernel that hardlocks when I try to boot. Unfortunately, pressing <shift> to bring up grub (so I can load the older kernel) doesn't work.
[13:52] <pth> ducasse netmask on machine 1 = netmask on machine 2 = <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:52] <goldernan> I'm not on a USB live session. Is there a way I can fix this?
[13:52] <EriC^^> goldernan: try esc, is it a vm btw?
[13:52] <goldernan> EriC^^: No, it's a laptop.
[13:52] <goldernan> and so far <Shift> has worked
[13:52] <goldernan> I may try esc, but I doubt it would work.
[13:52] <ducasse> pth: ok, so it's all one class c.
[13:52] <EriC^^> goldernan: try to disable fastboot in the bios
[13:53] <goldernan> key problem is I can't run update-grub since this is a mounted filesystem.
[13:53] <goldernan> OK, I'll try that.
[13:53] <EriC^^> wait what
[13:53] <goldernan> Any other suggestions before I reboot?
[13:53] <EriC^^> goldernan: are you in the live usb right now?
[13:53] <pth> ducasse: Don't understand "c".
[13:53] <goldernan> EriC^^: yeys.
[13:53] <EriC^^> goldernan: ok, have you mounted it under /mnt?
[13:53] <goldernan> EriC^^: under /media
[13:54] <ducasse> pth: not important, just the name of that subnet size.
[13:54] <funny> k1l {}
[13:54] <EriC^^> goldernan: ok, type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /media$i; done"
[13:54] <EriC^^> goldernan: replace /media with the path to the mountpoint
[13:55] <goldernan> EriC^^: OK, done
[13:55] <pth> ducasse & stevehope: So where do I start with my printer problem. I can ping the printer from machine 1 but not machine 2
[13:56] <ducasse> pth: how are the machines connected?
[13:56] <uvi> k1l nazdrave lame chears hahhaah
[13:57] <goldernan> EriC^^: now what? :)
[13:57] <EriC^^> goldernan: type sudo mount /media
[13:57] <EriC^^> sorry
[13:57] <EriC^^> sudo chroot /media
[13:59] <pth> ducasse: machine 1 -> eth0 to router. Machine 2 and printer -> wlan0 to router
[13:59] <ducasse> pth: what kind of router?
[13:59] <EriC^^> goldernan: done?
[14:00] <pth> ducasse: Technicolor TG788vn from my ISP
[14:01] <ducasse> pth: means nothing to me, i'm afraid, but i think i know what's going on. some routers isolate wlan clients from each other, i suspect yours is one of them.
[14:02] <ducasse> pth: if there is an admin interface you have control over, look there.
[14:02] <pth> ducasse: Sounds plausible. I had to set up my own /etc/hosts file to ping machines 1 and 2
[14:03] <pth> ducasse: I have admin on router. What should I look for
[14:04] <ducasse> pth: it could be as clearly labelled as 'isolate wireless clients'.
[14:05] <pth> ducasse: Looked many times, don't think I saw anything like that. How to confirm that this is what happens?
[14:05] <ducasse> pth: have you got any other wireless clients?
[14:06] <tomreyn> if applying a (canonical) livepatch via the canonical-livepatch serive failed (due to lack of disk space imn my case, which i have since remedied), how can you trigger a retry?
[14:06] <tomreyn> if applying a (canonical) livepatch failed (due to lack of disk space imn my case, which i have since remedied), how can you trigger a retry?
[14:06] <tomreyn> (ignore the first verison ;) )
[14:07] <pth> ducasse: Yes I have iPads and iPhones
[14:07] <pth> ducasse: And another ubuntu, but it is offline now
[14:08] <ducasse> pth: try installing an ssh client and ssh'ing to the machine connected via wifi. if i'm right it should fail.
[14:10] <pth> ducasse: I had a lot of problems doing this before I entered host names and IP adresses on each machines /etc/hosts file, so I know it is not working
[14:11] <pth> ducasse: but since I did this, all my machines can ping and ssh each other. Only the printer via wlan0 not
[14:11] <ducasse> pth: you could just call your isp's support and ask them, but i'm pretty sure this is the explanation.
[14:12] <pth> ducasse: Been there, done that. But you know how it is with ISPs, it's never their fault
[14:13] <ducasse> pth: no, but they can tell you how their routers are configured.
[14:14] <pth> ducasse: You must have a good ISP, that is not my experience... :-) Just looked at the CLI manual of the router. It does have AP Isolation feature.
[14:14] <kostkon> tomreyn, already tried   man canonical-livepatch?
[14:14] <ducasse> pth: can it be disabled?
[14:14] <Nitrogen> Hello. How can I create a second user that can be only logged in via terminal?
[14:15] <pth> ducasse: Checking the web manual now. Stand by.
[14:15] <silen> k1l manjaro or arch migrate lame
[14:15] <EriC^^> Nitrogen: sudo adduser
[14:15] <pth> ducasse: Web manual has no mention of isolation.
[14:16] <ducasse> pth: the people in ##networking might know about that router.
[14:16] <Nitrogen> EriC^^: Thanks. How can I log in with him?
[14:17] <wast> kaji e lame manjaro or  archlinux k1l :)
[14:17] <EriC^^> Nitrogen: sudo login <user>
[14:18] <refill> hi
[14:18] <siete> I'm installed ubuntu gnome and was using that for a while but then I switched to i3. I really like i3 and I want to get rid of gnome, but I can't figure out how to do that
[14:18] <refill> how do I determine the version of the package?
[14:18] <refill> Of a sotware?
[14:18] <refill> s/sotware/software
[14:18] <k1l> refill: apt policy packagename
[14:18] <EriC^^> refill: apt-cache policy <package>
[14:18] <siete> I want to completely uninstall gnome but keep gdm
[14:18] <refill> which is the relevant one, it's two commands
[14:19] <ducasse> refill: same thing
[14:19] <Nitrogen> EriC^^: Can I open GTK applications with it?
[14:19] <EriC^^> both work refill
[14:21] <EriC^^> Nitrogen: yeah, run "xhost +local:" in your gui
[14:21] <EriC^^> then DISPLAY=:0 <gtkapp> in the other
[14:21] <EriC^^> Nitrogen: all local stuff will be allowed to use your xserver
[14:22] <levak> k1l manjaro is good idea
[14:22] <levak> :)
[14:22] <levak> lame
[14:23] <Nitrogen> EriC^^: Seems good! Thank you =)
[14:23] <pth> ducasse: Good idea. Thank you very much for your help.
[14:24] <EriC^^> Nitrogen: no problem :)
[14:24] <siete> How do I uninstall gnome so that the only wm is i3wm?
[14:24] <ducasse> pth: no problem, good luck!
[14:24] <rus> k1l tel me manjaro or archlinux smeshka ||||:)
[14:25] <EriC^^> siete: sudo apt-get remove --autoremove ubuntu-gnome-desktop gnome-shell
[14:26] <siete> that's going to remove gdm too right?
[14:26] <EriC^^> siete: i dont think so
[14:26] <ducasse> k1l: i applaud your persistence :)
[14:27] <kostkon> ducasse, it's probably automatic
[14:27] <siete> ok, rebooting brb
[14:28] <Nitrogen> EriC^^: I don't hear any audio. How can I fix that?
[14:29] <EriC^^> Nitrogen: no idea, sorry
[14:30] <zle> k1l trateng me lame ahahahah crazy lame
[14:30] <hfp> Hi, what do you use as an email client? I find Thunderbird rather buggy and CPU heavy, are there any alternatives? I'd need GPG signing/encryption as well.
[14:31] <marvin2> what is fstab equivalent of mount -t cifs -o username=<user>,password=<pass> //<ip>/<sharedir> /media/pc/ ?
[14:32] <krytarik> kostkon: It's not. :)
[14:33] <kostkon> krytarik, I'm impressed then :)
[14:33] <krytarik> Yes!
[14:33] <erik__> Hello
[14:33] <erik__> Can someone reply too this, im demonstrating irc :-)
[14:34] <PipeItToDevNull> Heya
[14:34] <erik__> thanks!
[14:36] <darthVader> Hello
[14:36] <sme> k1l how time to del my nick lame
[14:36] <darthVader> Just testing irc
[14:36] <darthVader> :)
[14:40] <tralala> :)~ k1l
[14:41] <marvin2> how do you include spaces in password in fstab (mounting network share)?
[14:42] <ubuntuer> hi
[14:42] <hfp> marvin2: Did you try with a `\` before the space?
[14:43] <ubuntuer> can i ask, what is new in ubuntu 16.10?
[14:43] <marvin2> hfp no, I tried space, space with quotes and \040. I'll try with \
[14:43] <kostkon> ubuntuer, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes#New_features_in_16.10
[14:44] <ubuntuer> oh ok
[14:44] <ubuntuer> though in ubuntu 16.10, i get errors about compiz. what is this?
[14:45] <malwar3hun73r> i'm trying to compile mongodb from source on ubuntu 16.04 (b/c I need to up the BSON document size limit).  I'm using apt-get source to grab the source and dpkg-buildpackage to build after making necessary mods. I keep getting this error:
[14:45] <malwar3hun73r> src/mongo/db/dur_commitjob.cpp:147:9: error: invalid application of 'sizeof' to incomplete type 'boost::STATIC_ASSERTION_FAILURE<false>'
[14:45] <malwar3hun73r>          BOOST_STATIC_ASSERT( sizeof(void*)==4 || UncommittedBytesLimit > BSONObjMaxInternalSize * 6 );
[14:46] <malwar3hun73r> google shows that other people have it and the only solution is to move to a newer version, but i'd like to use this version of mongodb (especially since it's the one that will install with 16.10)
[14:46] <malwar3hun73r> *16.04
[14:47] <ubuntuer> can i also ask, why will ubuntu soon in 18.04 LTS come with GNOME instead?
[14:47] <marvin2> hfp getting same errors. unc name specified twice, ignoring second. mount error(13): Permission denied. mount: mounting //<IP_ADDRESS>/E_data on /media/i7/E_data failed: Permission denied
[14:47] <k1l> ubuntuer: because canonical will not invest in unity anymore.
[14:48] <ubuntuer> hmm, but why?
[14:48] <marvin2> this is my fstab line, it gives me errors above. /<IP_ADDRESS>/E_data /media/i7/E_data   cifs  _netdev,username=<user>,password=<pass>,uid=500,gid=500 0 0
[14:48] <hfp> ubuntuer: there was a lbog post about it recently from canonical
[14:48] <marvin2> and yet this works: mount -t cifs -o username=<user>,password="<pass>" //<IP_ADDRESS>/E_data /media/i7/E_data
[14:49] <hfp> ubuntuer: the short version is they couldn't pull off the ubuntu phone, and continuing with unity leads to firther fragmentation. it's too costly to continue so they're reverting back to gnome and dropping unity.
[14:49] <ubuntuer> ive also heard it is because of BUGS in unity.
[14:49] <hfp> marvin2: Maybe it would be easier to change the password on the server so there isn't a space at all anymore. Is that an option?
[14:50] <jc_> hi
[14:50] <ubuntuer> please note: im chating with irc chat on kodi.
[14:50] <kk4ewt> ubuntuer,  anything man made has bugs
[14:50] <jc_> sure.
[14:50] <ubuntuer> i cant see eveything on the screen so, some of these comments are unreadable.
[14:50] <tomreyn> kostkon: See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[14:51] <ubuntuer> because im on kodi.
[14:51] <jc_> Toomany users.
[14:51] <tomreyn> kostkon: in response to <kostkon> tomreyn, already tried   man canonical-livepatch?
[14:51] <ubuntuer> ok got to go. ill come back when i need to as ive got my questions answered.
[14:52] <k1l> ubuntuer: no, its not because of bugs in unity.
[14:53] <hfp> ubuntuer: cf https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
[14:53] <ubuntuer> ok now i know the truth because of ubuntu phone.
[14:54] <irctc820> hello, anyone willing to help me with small thing?
[14:54] <ubuntuer> but will unity still be on ubuntu phone?
[14:54] <ubuntuer> oh yes. what is it?
[14:55] <irctc820> oh, hey
[14:55] <hfp> ubuntuer: have you read the blog post?
[14:55] <hfp> irctc820: Don't ask to ask, ask your question and if someone knows they'll answer
[14:55] <irctc820> I'm writing a bash script that reads line by line from text file
[14:55] <ubuntuer> im going on ithe blog post now.
[14:56] <irctc820> and I want to use id3v2 -l FILE command in this while read loop
[14:56] <k1l> ubuntuer: ubuntu-phone is shut down.
[14:56] <irctc820> but in terminal it keeps saying that id3v2 command is not found, but outside the while loop everything is good
[14:56] <irctc820> can anyone help me with that :|
[14:58] <stevarino> hey all, i'm having a really tough time getting docker running on my ubuntu server. is there a good source on this?
[14:58] <hfp> irctc820: gist your code on gist.github.com
[14:59] <ubuntuer> what is the link to the blog post?
[14:59] <malwar3hun73r> anyone able ot help with compiling mongodb from source on ubuntu 16.04?
[15:00] <ubuntuer> anyone with the link?
[15:00] <stevarino> for example, it appears the docker service is running but when i attempt to launchy a container based on the ubuntu:latest repository, apt-get update in the container returns "The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file"
[15:00] <k1l> ubuntuer: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
[15:02] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: apt-get build-dep mongodb-server && apt-get source --compile mongodb-server
[15:02] <tomreyn> + 2 x sudo
[15:04] <john_doe_jr> what is the quickest way to delete a large number of files?
[15:05] <EriC^^> john_doe_jr: delete the partition they're on and make a new one
[15:05] <EriC^^> (j/k)
[15:05] <lucas-arg> john_doe_jr, from terminal rm -rf name* or just * if want to delete all files from a folder
[15:06] <lucas-arg> john_doe_jr, or rm -rf nameoffile1 (press tab to complete name of file) name(tab)file2 etc -r means folder -f means file
[15:06] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, are you saying i'm leaving that out?
[15:07] <lauritzt[m]> lucas-arg: There is no reason to use -f, even -r is probably unnecessary.
[15:07] <lucas-arg> oldschool
[15:08] <lauritzt[m]> lucas-arg: Not using -f is common sense, not "oldschool"
[15:08] <ducasse> lucas-arg: -f is 'force', not 'file'.
[15:08] <planet_g> force
[15:09] <kbob> be the force with you
[15:11] <john_doe_jr> lucas-arg: that still takes a while consider this is a lot of data
[15:12] <k1l> john_doe_jr: is there other data in that folder?
[15:12] <john_doe_jr> k1l: yes…it's a the result of a backup process over months
[15:15] <desertmonk> quit
[15:15] <MannyLNJ> Hi. I have a broken system. apt-get had crashed and now when I do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to fix it I am told dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic: linux-generic depends on linux-headers-generic (= <IP_ADDRESS>.78); however: Version of linux-headers-generic on system is <IP_ADDRESS>.77.      How do I fix my system?
[15:15] <lucas-arg> john_doe_jr, guys where right, -r -f not needed but did you try mc? like a file manager from termina?
[15:15] <ubuntuer> Hi. Has anyone got a link to why unity is discontinued?
[15:16] <Dkompile> all problems will be fixed with alt f4
[15:16] <k1l> ubuntuer: are you kidding me? the link was given you twice
[15:16] <k1l> ubuntuer: <k1l> ubuntuer: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
[15:16] <ubuntuer> im was on kodi libreelec. now im on a android client.
[15:17] <Dkompile> android is for fags, get iOS
[15:17] <ubuntuer> android is GOOD
[15:17] <ubuntuer> IOS is not because it is not open
[15:18] <ubuntuer> do sad!
[15:18] <ubuntuer> *so
[15:18] <ivan> pretty much everyone running Android is also running Google Play Services which is basically a self-updating rootkit
[15:18] <ubuntuer> im rooted
[15:18] <k1l> which is all offtopic for ubuntu support channel :)
[15:18] <ubuntuer> what do you mean?
[15:19] <ivan> !offtopic
[15:19] <ubuntuer> oh the android thing
[15:23] <wrksx> I've got a weird error each time I try to use sudo
[15:23] <wrksx> [ 1639.500258] EXT4-fs error (device dm-1): ext4_lookup:1430: inode #2669: comm sudo: deleted inode referenced: 569
[15:23] <ubuntuer> problem with the EXT4 filesystem
[15:24] <wastrel> do you have a separate root partition
[15:24] <EriC^^> sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot
[15:24] <EriC^^> wrksx: ^
[15:24] <wastrel> how if sudo is broken
[15:25] <wrksx> EriC^^, I've rebooted and fsck 2 times already
[15:25] <ducasse> wrksx: look, did you get to read the logs on that machine?
[15:25] <wrksx> ducasse, some of it
[15:25] <wrksx> but couldn't find useful things
[15:25] <ducasse> wrksx: does dmesg work now?
[15:25] <wrksx> ducasse, don't have much knowledge on whazt to look for and where to look at
[15:25] <EriC^^> wrksx: did you try to purge and reinstall sudo?
[15:26] <EriC^^> wrksx: (that'll delete any configs or changes btw)
[15:26] <wrksx> ducasse, yeas it's readable
[15:26] <ducasse> wrksx: any disk/fs errors?
[15:26] <wrksx> ducasse, After a reboot in 'rescue' mode, and fsdsk
[15:27] <MannyLNJ> Hi. I have a broken system. apt-get had crashed and now when I do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to fix it I am told dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic: linux-generic depends on linux-headers-generic (= <IP_ADDRESS>.78); however: Version of linux-headers-generic on system is <IP_ADDRESS>.77.      How do I fix my system?
[15:27] <ducasse> MannyLNJ: 'sudo apt install -f' should fix it
[15:28] <MannyLNJ> ducasse, trying that now
[15:30] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: sorry i didn't read your issue summary, just that you're trying to build it from source
[15:30] <wrksx> ducasse, maybe this [   15.582826] ACPI Warning: 0x0000000000003040-0x000000000000307f SystemIO conflicts with Region \SM00 1 (20131115/utaddress-251)
[15:31] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: you should probably seek assistence from the mongodb project
[15:31] <ducasse> wrksx: nope, that's acpi.
[15:31] <marvin2> i changed password to not contain space, have same issue
[15:31] <ubuntuer> exactly. its acpi.
[15:32] <wrksx> there is an issue with mounting sda1, I'll pate it somewhere
[15:32] <ubuntuer> you mean paste
[15:32] <wrksx> lol yeaj
[15:32] <wrksx> I meant yeah
[15:32] <ubuntuer> XD
[15:32] <RonWhoCares> Does anyone out there know where I can find /usr/local/pgsql/share/extension/hstore.control  (just the file)
[15:32] <ubuntuer> browse to it!
[15:33] <ubuntuer> using cd
[15:33] <ubuntuer> so you can be directed to it
[15:33] <wrksx> here is what I found ducasse
[15:33] <wrksx> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24341265/
[15:33] <jennie> helo
[15:34] <ubuntuer> what do you mean? by ducasse?
[15:34] <jennie> if I install ubuntu on a pc and then take hard drive and plug it in other pc, what will happen? both pcs have different hardware\
[15:34] <ubuntuer> the drivers will get installed
[15:34] <ubuntuer> like normal
[15:34] <jennie> but hardware is different
[15:34] <jennie> will it boot?
[15:35] <ubuntuer> yes in a basic environment
[15:35] <ubuntuer> until all the drivers get installed
[15:35] <jennie> okay sounds good
[15:35] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: that file is not from a repo package
[15:35] <ubuntuer> :)
[15:36] <RonWhoCares> ducasse: Do you have any idea where I could find it?  I've been looking ~30 minutes
[15:36] <MannyLNJ> ducasse, fixed it. thanks
[15:36] <ubuntuer> ok got to go
[15:37] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: it's probably from a self-compiled source tarball or third party repo of postgres
[15:39] <RonWhoCares> ahh!  I just found the files.  They are part of pgSQL's package , it installed automatically when I did: apt install postgresql
[15:39] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: it should not be in /usr/local
[15:41] <mnogozle> k1l i mnogo sam se razvalnuval :)
[15:41] <mnogozle> lame
[15:42] <RonWhoCares> ducasse: I wonder if it will mess up pgSQL if I copy the 9.5 version of hcontrol to 9.4
[15:42] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: no clue whatsoever
[15:44] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, ok, thanks!
[15:46] <wrksx> I have this on startup:  * Starting Read required files in advance                               [fail]
[15:47] <ducasse> wrksx: sorry, doing several things at once here. it's possible the errors you experienced earlier corrupted some of the files on the root fs.
[15:48] <wrksx> ducasse, that's alright =) I just rebooted an am checking the dmesg
[15:49] <implite> is there a way to scan the hard drive in # with commands no xwindows
[15:49] <implite> ?
[15:50] <wrksx> ducasse, this time no issues with orphans
[15:51] <ducasse> wrksx: no, those were already cleaned.
[15:51] <implite> !commands
[15:52] <implite> !hard drive
[15:52] <implite> fail
[15:52] <wrksx> ducasse, dmesg seems to contain logs from the boot
[15:52] <wrksx> right?
[15:52] <ducasse> wrksx: right
[15:53] <implite> LOL it says to me "<ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hard drive"
[15:53] <ducasse> wrksx: what i'm saying is that the fs might be fubar
[15:54] <wrksx> ducasse, idk, everything is fine for now
[15:55] <ducasse> wrksx: ok, good, but i'd keep an eye on it for a little while. watch the logs, just in case.
[15:55] <wrksx> ducasse, I'm sure it's going to reproduce
[15:58] <wrksx> ducasse, what log is most likely to contain errors about the fs or disks?
[15:58] <ducasse> wrksx: dmesg, kern.log and/or syslog
[15:59] <ducasse> wrksx: primarily dmesg
[15:59] <wrksx> but if I don't reboot will dmesg be happened
[16:00] <wrksx> appended
[16:00] <ducasse> wrksx: dmesg is a running log, you can watch it 'live' with dmesg -w
[16:02] <wrksx> ducasse,hum it says invalid opt -- 'w'
[16:03] <ducasse> wrksx: which ubuntu is this?
[16:03] <wrksx> 14.04 I beleive
[16:04] <ducasse> wrksx: ah, right, that's too old. doesn't have -w.
[16:04] <wrksx> 14.04.5 LTS
[16:04] <wrksx> ducasse, okay I don't mind
[16:04] <wrksx> live logs is not so terrible to watch =)
[16:05] <wrksx> ducasse, so until now, when you said check dmesg I was using less /var/log/dmesg
[16:05] <SlidingHorn> wrksx, you could also use tail if you don't want to manually scroll
[16:05] <ducasse> wrksx: you can use tail -f on it, or run the dmesg command
[16:07] <wrksx> ducasse, so it is possible that some log is written in /var/log/dmesg during runtime (as opposed to boot)
[16:07] <ducasse> wrksx: i would expect so
[16:09] <wrksx> ducasse, too bad dmesg doesn't contain dates
[16:09] <wrksx> it's just a number of sec from the boot
[16:10] <ducasse> wrksx: try 'dmesg -H'
[16:11] <wrksx> -f looks usefull
[16:13] <sere> im running ubuntu16.04 with a lvm and was wondering if its possible to install another distro with maybe virtual box without rebooting
[16:15] <hamdjan> hello
[16:15] <wrksx> ducasse, oh yeah -T did the trick
[16:16] <hamdjan> how can i start a uwsgi app seperately in ubuntu?
[16:16] <sa_> hello
[16:16] <hamdjan> in opensuse i could simply systemctl start<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:16] <sa_> hello
[16:17] <sa_> hello
[16:17] <ducasse> sere: you want to setup a virtual machine? you should not need to reboot for that.
[16:17] <minimec> sa_: We read you...
[16:18] <sa_> hi i am from taiwan
[16:19] <minimec> sa_: If you have a support problem, just ask your question. No need to present yourself.
[16:20] <Guest78211> hi
[16:22] <sere> ducasse: no im actaully trying to install the  second os on a logical volume with partitions ubuntu/=ext4 home=ext4 booth=ext2 and arch=ext4 aka logical volume using previous partitions
[16:23] <Guest78211> ducasse would you be brief
[16:27] <ducasse> Guest78211: brief?
[16:27] <Guest78211> ducasse abt the issue..
[16:27] <ducasse> Guest78211: which issue and why?
[16:27] <Guest78211> what issue exactly
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> !details | Guest78211
[16:29] <hopper_> how do I run an update python
[16:29] <Guest123> !pyhton
[16:29] <Guest123> !python
[16:29] <hopper_> !python
[16:30] <hopper_> more
[16:30] <Guest78211> run update command followed by python*
[16:30] <Guest123> hopper_: "sudo apt-get upgrade python pyhton3"
[16:31] <Guest78211> as ubuntu type apt-get update python*
[16:31] <Guest123> "sudo apt-get update first
[16:31] <Guest123> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade python*"
[16:32] <ducasse> sere: i'm unsure if /boot can be on a logical volume. do you have free space for this?
[16:32] <Guest123> !/boot
[16:32] <Guest123> !filesystem
[16:32] <Guest123> This might help.
[16:33] <hopper_> thank you. I have been trying update all morning... It's upgrade and that has started the process. MANY THANKS
[16:33] <sere> ducasse: boot is not inside the lvm container
[16:33] <ducasse> sere: which os are you trying to install?
[16:33] <Guest123> yeah, lvm requires the system to already be booted.
[16:34] <sere> ducasse: archbang
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> !who | Guest123
[16:34] <ducasse> sere: ok, that's utterly unsupported here. maybe this will help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_existing_Linux
[16:35] <Guest123> sere, arch linux has its own irc channel.
[16:36] <sere> ducasse: ducasse thanks i will check it out..#ubuntu is my home though
[16:36] <dumbguy> hello ubuntu 16.04 ... dnsmasq ... becomes unresponsive to dns queries every day. anyone else get that? Version: 2.75-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:36] <Saravana> how to change enviroment variables
[16:41] <jobot> @dumbguy , yes I noticed dnsmasq issues too. I commented it out in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to fix some things, but maybe different problem
[16:42] <ducasse> Saravana: export VAR=value
[16:43] <dumbguy> jobot: i don't even understand why it's even enabled. what's the supposed benefit of doing dns through dnsmasq.
[16:43] <Guest123> !dnsmasq | dumbguy
[16:44] <Guest123> !dns | dumbguy
[16:44] <ducasse> Saravana: it will do what you asked, please don't pm
[16:45] <Saravana> ducasse: fine
[16:45] <dumbguy> here's what i am going to do. get rid of dnsmasq.
[16:46] <dumbguy> unless you can tell me of any security or performance benefits, i'll use the traditional resolver.
[16:46] <Faraday> Manelele e veata mea
[16:46] <Guest123> !dns | dumbguy
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> !english | Guest5220
[16:46] <dumbguy> Guest123: are you implying that this tutorial is worthwhile? let's skim over it.\
[16:46] <Guest123> lotuspsychje: It's his nickname.
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> Guest123: ?
[16:48] <dumbguy> Guest123: i already know the very basics of dns and operating named. are you implying ditch dnsmasq?
[16:49] <sohel> hey
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> sohel: welcome, what can we do for you?
[16:50] <sohel> is it related linux help or?
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> !support | sohel
[16:51] <ducasse> dumbguy: start here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq
[16:51] <sohel> so this is for making friends
[16:51] <sohel> right?
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> !chat | sohel
[16:51] <ducasse> sohel: no, for technical support
[16:51] <sohel> good,
[16:52] <sohel> i just installed ubuntu
[16:52] <sohel> i am completely new to it
[16:52] <leaftype> sohel, welcome to ubuntu then :)
[16:52] <sohel> what can i do with ubuntu
[16:52] <Guest123> sole: Everything much better than windows!
[16:52] <sohel> i wanted to have a battery notification when battery is full it should notify me
[16:52] <leaftype> sohel, what can you do with any OS? Answer is a lot
[16:53] <Saravana> Sohel : Everything u want
[16:53] <Guest123> sole: if you want to use windows apps, try !wine
[16:53] <Guest123> !wine
[16:53] <sohel> is it possible to make it look like that geeky thing in the movies?
[16:54] <Guest123> !wine | sohel
[16:54] <leaftype> Guest123, that's one of htose things that's possible, but generally not a great idea unless you have to
[16:54] <leaftype> a lot works with Wine, but most things don't
[16:54] <Guest123> leaftype: true......
[16:54] <Guest123> but if you have to
[16:55] <Pencil2> I've never used CPAN.   Now me thinks I need to learn.
[16:55] <Guest123> sole: What Geeky thing
[16:55] <Guest123> sohel
[16:55] <sohel> regarding the learning , what should i do now, where can i start? what is the main thing about ubuntu? i thought this is something about coding and stuff, i will elarn
[16:55] <sohel> learn*
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> !manual | sohel
[16:56] <Guest123> !programing | sohel
[16:56] <Saravana> Sohel : learn the basics of linux first
[16:56] <Guest123> !software | sohel
[16:56] <Pencil2> #perl
[16:56] <Guest123> Ubuntu Software Center has some learning tools, sohel
[16:56] <Saravana> Provide the solution for broken packages issue
[16:57] <sohel> how can run a script in it, which format does it support, sh?
[16:57] <sohel> and when i tried to copy a script to /usr/local/bin permission denied
[16:57] <Saravana> it will support all format only thing u need to install the packages to support
[16:58] <leaftype> sohel, why were you trying to copy a script from /usr/local/bin?
[16:58] <sohel> no i am trying to copy to this locaiton
[16:58] <sohel> location *
[16:59] <Saravana> Y your trying to copy : sohel
[16:59] <sohel> and somebody asked me what geeky thing, sorry for late reply, that blue ish geeky thing which hacker use, i mean look wise
[16:59] <Saravana> Provide the solution for broken packages issue?
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> !who | Saravana
[16:59] <sohel> i want batter full notification and i found some script online
[17:00] <leaftype> bluish geeky thing... can you link to what you found online?
[17:00] <sohel> battery*
[17:01] <Saravana> can anyone tell me to fix broken packages issue
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> !details | Saravana
[17:01] <sohel> i just see it in movies, with those special effects
[17:01] <ducasse> Saravana: that depends on the issue
[17:02] <ducasse> sohel: you need to know what you're doing to set that up, learn to walk before you run.
[17:02] <leaftype> sohel, there are a LOT of special effects and geeky things in linux as a whole. Hell, just saying 'linux' puts you on a more geeky level than most people
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> sohel: ar you even using ubuntu right now?
[17:03] <sohel> as i understood arch linux is also linux based, how is it different from arch or what is that about
[17:03] <sohel> Yes i just installed it 1hr ago, first time in my life
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> sohel: wich version?
[17:03] <sohel> so i am sending this msgs from Hexchat
[17:04] <sohel> i installed in it
[17:04] <sohel> 16.04 LTS
[17:04] <leaftype> sohel, first steps to geekdom... I suggest using the terminal and learning the basics of navigating that. google basic terminal commands or tutorials, and type ctrl+alt+t to get started
[17:04] <compdoc> sohel, good choice
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> sohel: ok, can you imgur.com us a link to what you mean on the geeky thing in movies?
[17:04] <sohel> compdoc, thanks
[17:05] <sohel> i had look at basic commands,
[17:05] <sohel> what is the next level
[17:06] <sohel> for example, when i installed kali before i found most of the suggestion on the internet that first thing u should do is, go to overthewire.org and learn coding, is there any thing like that here
[17:06] <sohel> that i should do or start doing ...
[17:07] <ducasse> sohel: learn how to use the system at all first, like installing software, copying files etc
[17:07] <leaftype> sohel, do you want to be a coder? then absolutely.
[17:07] <sohel> i think i know these basic things
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> sohel: this channel is not really meant for chatting, only ask real ubuntu issues here please
[17:08] <sohel> sorry... thnx
[17:08] <immu_ubuntu> ok guys my screen resolution is  1366 * 768 , so what should be my optimum launcher size
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> sohel: experiment things yourself, if you encounter problems feel free to ask here
[17:09] <sohel> is there any way that i can change the whole look of ubuntu
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> !themes | sohel
[17:09] <leaftype> immu_ubuntu, default is good. Optimum is entirely subjective. You can change the launcher size and experiment using the control panel
[17:11] <sohel> thnx for help, if i get anything i will get back
[17:11] <sohel> thanks have a great days guys
[17:11] <leaftype> sohel, feel free to lurk whenever you want :)
[17:12] <sohel> this is definitely greatest thing about ubuntu, live support
[17:13] <immu_ubuntu> leaftype: i want to set the launcher size to its optimum size
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> immu_ubuntu: leaftype just explained you optimum is subjective
[17:13] <ducasse> immu_ubuntu: then adjust until you think it's optimal
[17:14] <Furai> Is 17.04 stable enough now to switch to it right now? Or should I wait these couple days till the official release?
[17:14] <immu_ubuntu> is their some math that some one can spin lotuspsychje leaftype ducasse yeah?
[17:15] <ducasse> immu_ubuntu: math on what?
[17:15] <leaftype> Furai, betas are usually pretty stable, but it's always more reliable to wait for the official releases
[17:15] <thingfish> Furai: I've been using it for a while now, and the only real bug I've run into is one where the Software app won't install things.
[17:16] <thingfish> but then I'm not by any means a power user.
[17:16] <thingfish> Still, it's a very nice beta.
[17:16] <leaftype> immu_ubuntu, launcher size is "optimum" at completely different ratios for different people. You could say it depends on screen size, or resolution, but in both cases you'd be wrong. I've seen very attractive launchers that were tiny as hell, and I've seen ones that looked good that took up a huge amount of space, relative to what I like. Default is a good balance, but there is no forumula for this
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> immu_ubuntu: it also depends on how many icons you will use on it, or use it vertical or horizontal..
[17:18] <ducasse> Furai: questions about 17.04 go in #ubuntu+1
[17:18] <antmar> hi!
[17:18] <immu_ubuntu> its vertical default
[17:18] <immu_ubuntu> ducasse:  its vertical
[17:19] <leaftype> immu_ubuntu, is there any other question we can help you with?
[17:19] <ducasse> immu_ubuntu: please listen to what people are saying - it is _subjective_.
[17:20] <immu_ubuntu> ducasse:  yeah i read that, as i mostly set it to 32
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> immu_ubuntu: i use it horizontal on 28, and its very optimal for me!
[17:24] <immu_ubuntu> lotuspsychje: thanks but as its subjective for some, i would like to know for a particular resolution if its X then what should be the launcher size, either you know or dont know
[17:24] <ducasse> immu_ubuntu: there is no right answer to that
[17:25] <ducasse> immu_ubuntu: no wrong one either
[17:26] <immu_ubuntu> ducasse:  thank you all
[17:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Are you around?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> the_count: he will be on later, ask your issue in the channel
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> the_count: his timezone will soon wakeup
[17:45] <the_count> lotuspsychje: :P I was trying to install the Gnome desktop, and am having some troubles: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24342120/
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> the_count: added ppa's of any kind? ubuntu version?
[17:49] <the_count> lotuspsychje: 16.04 LTS. I have added ppa's recently for KDE, but have since removed them
[17:49] <ducasse> the_count: have you enabled universe repo?
[17:49] <the_count> ducasse: Yes
[17:50] <the_count> apt-get install -f doesn't seems to help either
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> the_count: did you ppa-purge your ppa correctly?
[17:51] <the_count> lotuspsychje: Probably not
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | the_count
[17:52] <the_count> lotuspsychje: I unchecked the box from the Software and Updates GUI, does that work?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> the_count: check the ppapurge link howto do it correctly
[17:56] <ducasse> the_count: can you pastebin output of 'apt policy ubuntu-gnome-desktop'?
[17:56] <mate_> I was curious why 17.04 wasn't an LTS release. They always have been in the past.
[17:56] <nicomachus> mate_: LTS release is every even year in april. 16.04 then 18.04
[17:57] <the_count> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24342186/
[17:57] <leaftype> mate_, 2 year cycle vs 6 month cycle. 2 year cycles are LTS
[17:57] <mate_> Oh. I was under the impression that every .04 release was LTS. That's good to know
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> !releases | mate_
[17:58] <mate_> Thanks everyone for that info
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: doesnt he need like gnome-shell to install?
[18:00] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: i just want to see where apt thinks the packages are coming from
[18:00] <ioria> the_count, do you have by any chances, xenial-updates disabled ?
[18:02] <the_count> ioria: Where would I check that at?
[18:02] <mate_> ducasse: I've just come into the discussion, but if I understand correctly would apt-get update tell you where your sources for updates are coming from?
[18:02] <tumbey_> 123
[18:02] <ioria> the_count,  in sources, or run  sudo apt update
[18:02] <tumbey_> kupa13
[18:03] <ioria> the_count,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:03] <the_count> ioria: Wait... It was disabled, I'm not sure why
[18:03] <ioria> the_count,  no good
[18:03] <ducasse> mate_: 'apt policy package' will tell you which repo apt will get a package from
[18:03] <mate_> oh ok
[18:04] <ioria> the_count,  enable it, and run  sudo apt update
[18:04] <t00tie> hi, should thesettlersonline, a flash web game, work on ubuntu?
[18:04] <Spec> t00tie: yes
[18:04] <the_count> ioriai: I am doing the ppa-purge for kubuntu packages first, I can't stop that
[18:04] <leaftype> t00tie, as long as flash is installed, it should work anywhere
[18:04] <ioria> the_count,  ok
[18:05] <t00tie> cool, thanks
[18:08] <pradeep> hi
[18:10] <Odd_> Running Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS. Set up a new users, like I've done before, and threw in some programs, like I've done before. But when I got to the very and and got to run "./start.sh" I wound up with "bash: ./start.sh: Permission denied". ....Anyone who might have a clue?
[18:11] <ioria> Odd_, how did you create the new user ?
[18:11] <Odd_> "sudo adduser name"
[18:12] <BlitzerHound> Hey what's up guys?
[18:12] <ioria> Odd_,  he has sudo rights?
[18:12] <Odd_> The account I've made should not. The account I used to do that did have sudo rights.
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> !chat | BlitzerHound
[18:12] <ioria> Odd_,  does that script require sudo ?
[18:12] <BlitzerHound> Uh... thanks?
[18:12] <Odd_> It should not.
[18:13] <ioria> Odd_,  the script is executable ?
[18:13] <stevehope> anytime you get permission died, its impacting something outside of your userspace, ie needs sudo  (make sure you kno what it does before sudo'ing it)
[18:13] <Odd_> Far as I'm aware I am simply attempting to run an instance, in a screen, that is all within the new users folder.
[18:14] <ioria> Odd_,  paste ls -l start.sh
[18:14] <ducasse> Odd_: 'chmod +x start.sh'
[18:14] <the_count> ioria: Runnging that upgrade now
[18:15] <Odd_> https://paste.md-5.net/bixegecoko.mel
[18:15] <ioria> Odd_,  yes, it's not executable .... ^ ducasse
[18:15] <BlitzerHound> So were you saying that I need to register for this thingy?
[18:15] <ioria> Odd_,  chmod +x start.sh
[18:16] <gvvg> Hi - just upgraded 14.04 LTS to 16.04 and the system seems to be stuck at "[OK] Stopped Create static Device Nodes in /dev" - not sure what to do - I did a reboot and it seems stuck - any advice?
[18:16] <Odd_> And then after I "chmod" I can run it?
[18:16] <ioria> Odd_,  if a file becames executable you'll see the 'x' flag in the  ls -l command
[18:16] <ioria> *becomes
[18:17] <the_count> BlitzerHound: he was saying this is a suppot channel, not for ' What's up guys? '
[18:17] <Odd_> Uh, it turned green? I feel really dumb right now.
[18:18] <BlitzerHound> Oh. Sorry.
[18:18] <Odd_> Should have gotten an "x" flag now, though.
[18:18] <ioria> Odd_,  if you don't want to grant the 'x' flag, you can use    /bin/bash   myscript.sh
[18:18] <Odd_> What is the x flag?
[18:19] <immu_ubuntu> Package gconf-service is not installed.
[18:19] <ioria> Odd_, executive bit
[18:20] <Odd_> So, if I'm setting up an Unturned server for some friends, which is essentially public, that will still be relatively "safe"?
[18:21] <leaftype> gvvg, how long has it been stuck there?
[18:21] <gvvg> leaftype: over 10 minutes
[18:22] <the_count> Odd_: As long as you are smarter than your friends are
[18:22] <etronik> Hi all, trying to add a ppa to Ubuntu it I get a "xenial Release' does not have a Release file... yada yada dangerous... yada yada see apt-secure manpage ... How shoudl I proceed ?
[18:22] <leaftype> ugh, that's frustrating. is it feasible to reinstall from a usb? ie the nuke & pave approach?
[18:22] <etronik> I'm trying to add this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~plippo/+archive/ubuntu/t101mt
[18:23] <ioria> etronik, which one ?
[18:23] <minimec> Odd_: If you keep your system up to date and use the official packages for the servics you want to expose, you should be pretty save.
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | etronik
[18:23] <Odd_> the_count, considering it's public and I am not at all proficient within Ubuntu, I'd wager against that.
[18:23] <ioria> etronik, not supported in xenial
[18:23] <ioria> etronik, the laste was Quantal
[18:23] <minimec> Odd_: You could add some security, if you change the default port for some services..., like ssh or own/next- cloud for example.
[18:24] <etronik> ioria, not supported at all ?
[18:24] <ioria> etronik, nope, not that
[18:25] <the_count> Odd_: I would say that the chances are no one will do anything to your server, if they really wanted to, they could probably find lots of ways to do it.
[18:25] <etronik> ioria, how did you see that so fast ? :-) I'm looking at the page and see no obvious indications...
[18:25] <ioria> etronik,  click on Technical details about this PPA
[18:26] <leaftype> gvvg, nuking and paving will nullify vast majority of bugs if it's possible. The problem I suspect is that an operation AFTER that one screwed up, or hit a bad sector, who who knows what else. You could retry the upgrade, but you risk something being broken
[18:26] <ioria> etronik,  the 'Choose ubuntu verion'
[18:26] <etronik> ah  latest is 12.10
[18:26] <ioria> right
[18:26] <etronik> but... does it mean it would work on 16 ?
[18:26] <etronik> but... does it mean it would'n  work on 16 ?
[18:26] <ioria> right
[18:26] <etronik> hmm
[18:27] <Odd_> the_count Id believe so too but one never inows. SSH ports and the likes are also changed.Nothing runs default ports.
[18:27] <karl_> Hi! I'm getting the following output when trying to start spotify (installed via snappy) https://paste.ubuntu.com/24342350/ A window shows up, but when I click login the login popup just blinks away Ubuntu 16.10
[18:28] <karl_> libcanberra-gtk-module is installed, and I tried with the i386 version as well
[18:29] <the_count> Odd_: I've has a server for a couple years now, running a couple websites and nothing has ever happened to it to the best of my knowledge. Really, when you should worry about it is when there will be a lot of users, with increased chances of someone finding it and having bad interests
[18:30] <wizard_> hi, I have a little problem in ubuntu 16.04, the ethernert card is being dissabled after that I update the system
[18:31] <mate_> I'm going through all start-up programs seeing what I can disable to help save resources. It appears that Tilda isn't needed. Can it be safely disabled?
[18:31] <wizard_> i can not put it in the black list
[18:31] <compdoc> wizard_, sometimes the name for ethernet interfaces change, and you just have to make a small adjustment
[18:32] <ioria> etronik,  black list ?
[18:32] <wizard_> I'Ve tried doing this:   echo “blacklist r8169″ >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[18:32] <ioria> wizard_, why ?
[18:33] <ducasse> wizard_: if you blacklist the module it will definitely be disabled
[18:34] <wizard_> but i tray to disable the updtate, it works fine with the old module
[18:34] <wizard_> When I update the system, i hav not internet coection by calbe, only by wifi
[18:35] <wizard_> cable, sorry
[18:35] <ducasse> wizard_: have you tried booting into the previous kernel?
[18:35] <wizard_> yes, but the new module is recharged
[18:36] <wizard_> I know how to solve the problem, but my family is so new in the linux world
[18:37] <etronik> ioria, sorry? black list !? didn't understand
[18:37] <the_count> ioria: I think I've got the problem fixed. Gnome is installing fine now
[18:37] <ioria> etronik,  my bad, sy
[18:37] <wizard_> dp ypu have some sugestion?
[18:37] <ioria> the_count,  good job
[18:38] <the_count> ioria: Thanks for you're help... I'm going to have to remember the ppa-purge tool. Thanks again!
[18:38] <ioria> the_count,  no problem
[18:39] <gvvg> leaftype: I guess you are right it must be the next operation - I don't know how to find what it is failing on - I'll look at the logs and keep researching -thanks
[18:41] <leaftype> gvvg, sorry I couldn't be more help. More xp needed
[18:41] <gvvg> leaftype: no problem - what other information would you like?
[18:43] <leaftype> gvvg, all the proper information/certs needed to get a proper job :). Though that's not relevant here
[18:43] <Zta> Hi
[18:44] <Zta> I think I once read somewhere that there's a service that lets you build deb files from a git url.  Is that true? And where is it? =)
[18:44] <gvvg> leaftype: thanks - I'll keep researching and come back if I need assistance - thanks
[18:44] <akila> hey
[18:44] <akila> Champika ?
[18:44] <Eightynine> I asked a question about Chromium freezes when restoring session, I have 120 GB SSD and it's almost empty. So that's not because of disk.
[18:45] <leaftype> Zta, they might be talking about the Opensuse build service
[18:48] <leaftype> Eightynine, how long does it freeze, and how many tabs do you have open?
[18:49] <leaftype> Eightynine, also, do you have pinned tabs?
[18:49] <mate_> I'm going through all start-up programs seeing what I can disable to help save resources. It appears that Tilda isn't needed. Can it be safely disabled?
[18:50] <wizard_> we hace a way to install ubuntu without gui, and pre installed programs, and choose it after?
[18:50] <wizard_> have
[18:51] <ducasse> mate_: tilda is just a terminal emulator - just uninstall it if you don't need it
[18:51] <mate_> ok thank you ducasse
[18:52] <msjoojoo> wizard-- how do u install ubuntu without gui and pre's
[18:52] <wizard_> msjoojoo  yes
[18:53] <msjoojoo> id like to do that
[18:53] <ducasse> wizard_: use the server image
[18:53] <V7> Hey all
[18:53] <V7> I have an issue
[18:53] <msjoojoo> ahh...  shoulda guessed
[18:53] <V7> WARNING: GPU:0: Unable to read EDID for display device DVI-I-0
[18:53] <wizard_> there isn`t a way to do it, right?
[18:53] <V7> 3 monitors, but works 2 now
[18:53] <V7> I don't know why
[18:54] <V7> It was working
[18:54] <V7> https://ufile.io/7a7101
[18:54] <V7> This is video with strange things ,...
[18:54] <V7> Can you help me please ?
[18:54] <wizard_> thank you ducasse
[18:54] <msjoojoo> yep thanks ducasse
[18:55] <V7> GUYS !
[18:55] <ducasse> !enter | V7
[18:55] <bhupesh> hi
[18:55] <V7> ducasse: DO you know why >
[18:56] <V7> $kde #kde-neon and #linux jsut don't nswering so ...
[18:56] <ducasse> V7: which os is this?
[18:58] <V7> KDE Neon 5.9.4
[18:58] <V7> Which is on Ubuntu 16.04
[18:58] <ducasse> V7: ok, so get support from them - it's not ubuntu
[18:58] <V7> oh dear
[18:59] <V7> THey are ignoring
[18:59] <ducasse> V7: they might be busy, wait for help.
[19:00] <V7> I've been waiting for 1 hour
[19:00] <V7> Nothing.
[19:00] <V7> ......
[19:00] <immu> www.youtube.com’s server DNS address could not be found.
[19:00] <immu> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
[19:00] <immu> i am having the above issue
[19:01] <ducasse> V7: that still doesn't make it an ubuntu issue.
[19:01] <V7> immu: F*CK one query to google
[19:01] <V7> http://askubuntu.com/questions/844785/dns-probe-finished-nxdomain-error-caused-by-ubuntu
[19:01] <V7> ducasse: KDE Neon is based on Ubuntu 16.04 -_-
[19:01] <V7> okay then if you don't know then just piss off
[19:02] <V7> I've noticed that All irc suppoert just peace of shit
[19:02] <V7> ( linux part )
[19:02] <Eightynine> Sorry for not answering. I have 28 tabs and have no pinned tabs.  To see if it's an issue with ubuntu not seeing your monitors you could run xrandr --query. It should show all connected monitors. At least see if OS sees them. If so, it may hardware?
[19:18] <ppf> V7: what's up with you?
[19:21] <ppf> Eightynine: what chrome is this?
[19:22] <Eightynine>  57.0.2987.98 Built on Ubuntu
[19:24] <ppf> hm, i don't think either of these errors in your paste is fatal
[19:24] <ppf> is there anything else in chromium's log?
[19:28] <ducasse> Eightynine: anything in ~/.xsession-errors?
[19:29] <lirammr> hello
[19:29] <lirammr> how do I read .dvju file?
[19:29] <lirammr> can't figure which appplication is the best to vieew it properly
[19:30] <Eightynine> https://pastebin.com/X17ddbyN
[19:33] <Bill1973> Afternoon all. Ijust went through and did some updates from the update manager yesterday. Now my NFS shares have disappeared. SMB shares still work. sudo mount -a does not seem to help.  Any know bug in nfs-utils pop up on latest updates?
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> lirammr  i read here, you have to convert the file to .pdf
[19:35] <ducasse> lirammr: evince should be able to read djvu
[19:35] <SimonNL> lirammr: found this on some webpage. "Okular and Evince are two options for opening DJVU files on Linux."
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> lirammr  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1839904
[19:37] <SimonNL> !djvu
[19:48] <wagle> the docs i find have ufw command listing poprt names, not numbers..  why is it just listing numbers on a fresh u16.04.* system?
[19:48] <wagle> the docs i find have ufw command listing port names, not numbers..  why is it just listing numbers on a fresh u16.04.* system?
[19:49] <Bill1973> How do i find available nfs via term?
[19:50] <ducasse> Bill1973: 'man showmount'
[19:50] <JuPaname> hi need dev webmaster for website free shell account
[19:50] <JuPaname> i am french
[19:51] <OerHeks> wagle, port names are used, because we don't know if you want to use the standard port ( then numbers are usefull)  or your own configuration ( then names are more helpfull)
[19:52] <wagle> often you can say to list names, or list numbers?
[19:52] <ducasse> JuPaname: wrong channel, this is ubuntu support
[20:01] <Eightynine> openConnection: connect: No such file or folder
[20:01] <Eightynine> cannot connect to brltty at :0
[20:02] <Eightynine> This is from /.xsession-errors
[20:03] <ducasse> Eightynine: that's not relevant unless you use a braille display
[20:04] <memez> yo
[20:04] <Eightynine> I don't need braille at all.
[20:05] <memez> h1tler
[20:05] <lirammr> how do I create folders in kindle?
[20:05] <memez> you dont
[20:05] <lirammr> can't seem to do it, no option
[20:05] <memez> succ
[20:05] <lirammr> memez: too bad
[20:06] <memez> t
[20:06] <lirammr> why are they so stupid, as to unrecognize the simple concept of a directory and it's neccessity,especially when dealing  with many books
[20:06] <memez> yep, amazon doesnt know what their doing
[20:07] <ducasse> lirammr: why are you asking this here?
[20:07] <memez> ik right?
[20:07] <lirammr> oh no, because I can't ask it elsewhere
[20:08] <ikonia> doesn't mean here is the place to do it
[20:08] <ikonia> this channel is for ubuntu only
[20:08] <memez> yep
[20:08] <OerHeks> lirammr, kindle is not ubuntu at all, ask Jeff Bezos?
[20:08] <memez> whats the command for hardware specs in ubuntu
[20:09] <lirammr> jeff bezos hello
[20:09] <OerHeks> lshw, lspci, lsusb, lscpu
[20:09] <OerHeks> easy to find, these commands
[20:10] <flisol> hola!
[20:10] <flisol> seus bando de gay
[20:10] <ducasse> !alis | lirammr
[20:10] <flisol> mds mano
[20:12] <Bill1973> Showmount shows the mounts are mounted by the clients but are not readable now? However smb mounts still work. What am i missing?
[20:16] <Some_Person> Is there any way to add a button to nautilus to toggle between the location bar and the breadcrumb buttons?
[20:17] <kolijug23> hi. I'm trying to get hbonow to play flash content and I've tried "hal" and "pipelght" with no results. is there a workaround?
[20:17] <Some_Person> It's kind of annoying to have to switch to the keyboard and use Ctrl-L and Escape (not even the same keys!)
[20:17] <ikonia> hal and pipelight ?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> !find hbonow
[20:18] <Some_Person> Or, at the very least, can I add an "Up" button and just set it to default to the location bar?
[20:18] <kolijug23> instructions here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/09/how-to-watch-hulu-on-ubuntu-1404-up
[20:18] <kolijug23> and pieplight https://www.maketecheasier.com/watch-hbo-now-ubuntu/
[20:19] <kolijug23> the video doesn't load. the wheel keeps spinning. tried chrome and firefox.
[20:21] <Some_Person> kolijug23: You should just be able to install abobe-flashplugin for frash
[20:21] <Some_Person> *flash
[20:21] <sflmlt> Hi there, quick Q regarding 16.04. Somehow my network manager icon disappeared, has anyone seen this before?
[20:22] <kolijug23> @Some_Person : flash installs but "hbonow uses an older version which ubuntu doesn' t support" is the issue.
[20:23] <ikonia> I doubt it uses an older version
[20:23] <ikonia> flash has been dead on linux for 6+ years
[20:23] <ikonia> so the version hasn't changed
[20:24] <Some_Person> ikonia: That's no longer true. Adobe resurrected it
[20:24] <ikonia> it's still dead
[20:24] <ikonia> they are just changing the wrapper interface
[20:24] <ikonia> the flash component is dead
[20:24] <kolijug23> @ikonia: wierd. the issue is similar to the one in the articles and it's just insane. flash works on other websites though.
[20:25] <Some_Person> ikonia: Wrapper interface?
[20:25] <ikonia> Some_Person: the call to the flash component, rather than flash itself
[20:25] <ikonia> it's security fixes mainly/only I think
[20:25] <Some_Person> ikonia: It identifies as version 25
[20:26] <ikonia> Some_Person: yeah, thats debatable
[20:27] <OerHeks> if one wants java or flash in firefox, one needs FF 52 ESR
[20:27] <Some_Person> So you're saying that Flash 25 on Linux is really still Flash 11? That doesn't make sense to me
[20:27] <ikonia> I've just read a post on omgubuntu that suggests it's fully back in development again...then after the attention grabbing headling it's the npapi component only
[20:27] <rand380> anyone reason y u're still on flash?
[20:27] <Some_Person> ikonia: Isn't the whole thing just an npapi plugin?
[20:27] <OerHeks> flash is dead, adobe reports significant drop of flashmalware :-D
[20:27] <ikonia> headling meant headline
[20:27] <ikonia> Some_Person: where are libraries too
[20:28] <rand380> flash needs to die already
[20:28] <jamesleimer> when i ever use sudo apt-get install <package> theres this line that pops up...is it safe to go in and delete that entry>
[20:29] <Some_Person> ikonia: As far as I can tell, the whole thing's just one .so file
[20:29] <jamesleimer> N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[20:29] <kolijug23> rand380: flash is almost dead but sites like hbonow still use it *screams in html5*
[20:29] <xerces8> shouldn't dd exit with error status if read fails due to bad sector?
[20:29] <ikonia> Some_Person: I guess it depends on your perspective, but I do agree they are doing more than they where, even before they dropped it
[20:29] <ikonia> xerces8: no
[20:30] <xerces8> ikonia: so how can I detect in a script that  the read failed?
[20:30] <ikonia> xerces8: you can't, it's a block level copy, it doesn't care, it copies exactly what is available on the harddisk, warts and all
[20:30] <ikonia> thats the whole point of dd
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> xerces8  is this useful http://www.shellcheck.net/
[20:32] <kolijug23>  What's ESR? <OerHeks> if one wants java or flash in firefox, one needs FF 52 ESR.
[20:32] <xerces8> but it doesn't. I do a bs=10M count=1  but it reads only 921600 bytes
[20:32] <rand380> kolijug23: extended support release.
[20:32] <ikonia> xerces8: what is the exact command you are running
[20:32] <xerces8> dd bs=10M count=1 if=/dev/sdd of=foo skip=43432
[20:33] <ikonia> xerces8: then post ls -lah on the out file
[20:33] <xerces8> if I use bs=1024  and read the bad sector, dd exits with error
[20:33] <ikonia> xerces8: what error does it exit with
[20:33] <xerces8> ikonia: it is 921600 bytes (the out file)
[20:34] <ikonia> xerces8: I asked for ls -lah on the output
[20:34] <ppf> jamesleimer: remove the file and the warning goes away
[20:34] <xerces8> ionia: dd: error reading '/dev/sdd': Input/output error
[20:34] <ikonia> xerces8: not what I'd expect for a bad sector,
[20:34] <ikonia> I'd expect it to just skip it or warn, not error and quit
[20:34] <light_> connect mozilla.org
[20:34] <xerces8> ikonia: what would you expect for a bad sector expect an I/O error?
[20:35] <xerces8> except
[20:35] <ikonia> xerces8: "cannot read" type warning and move along
[20:35] <xerces8> I guess we have a different look at it. IMO it should do what requested or report an error.
[20:35] <ikonia> I'm surprised it errors
[20:35] <ppf> dd doesn't care about broken sectors
[20:35] <xerces8> ikonia:  isn't that how dd_rescue works?
[20:35] <ppf> it just copies them
[20:35] <ikonia> xerces8: is it a usb pen drive by any chance ? or a proper hard disk
[20:35] <ikonia> ppf: yeah, that was my expectation too
[20:36] <xerces8> HDD
[20:37] <rand380> xerces8: does conv=noerror help?
[20:38] <xerces8> rand380:  noerror is according to man page "continue after read errors"  which is the opposite of what I expect and want.
[20:39] <xerces8> Here is says "Default behavior for dd is to halt at any error."   source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/disk_cloning
[20:39] <ppf> what do you expect and want
[20:39] <xerces8> ppf:  to read the data I specify or stop with an error if it can't do that
[20:39] <ppf> isn't that what it does? as per what you said above?
[20:40] <xerces8> ppf:  no. In case of reading bs=1024 it reports an error, in case of 10M it does not report an error. I expect consistency.
[20:41] <sflmlt> I see references to running nm-applet (or dbus-launch nm-applet), does anyone know why this is necessary after update for the network manager icon to show in 16.04?
[20:41] <xerces8> in both cases it stops at error, but in one case the error is reported, in the other it is not reportd
[20:41] <ducasse> sflmlt: if the applet has crashed you need to restart it
[20:42] <atf_> Hi - I am having prblems witha  hybred graphics card. Tried lubuntu 16.04.02, ubuntu 16.04 and now 16.10. None will install unless I have nomodeset flagged. with nomodeset falgged they run fine from live USB but not when I boot. Gaphics don;t owrk - with 16.10 I get a "The system is running in low graphics mode' error and am unable to get any futher. Strted in recovered mode and that seems fine. Any thoughts or how I can fix the problem
[20:43] <atf_> I'm a bit off a newbie but don't I missed anything obvious. I have been in here before but still not managed to resolve the issue.
[20:43] <viju> Hi
[20:43] <viju> Ubuntu 16 doesn't recognize my phone
[20:43] <viju> connected through USB
[20:44] <atf_> Jordan_U: I've tried 16.10 - still no luck
[20:45] <atf_> even if  I could just run automatically in low graphics mode that would do the trick for now.
[20:46] <Some_Person> Is there any way to add a button to nautilus to toggle between the location bar and the breadcrumb buttons?
[20:46] <Some_Person> It's kind of annoying to have to switch to the keyboard and use Ctrl-L and Escape (not even the same keys!)
[20:46] <Some_Person> Or, at the very least, can I add an "Up" button and just set it to default to the location bar?
[20:46] <sflmlt> @ducasse Thanks for the reply. What I mean is this broke after an update, it won't launch either way. While it's not a show stopper per se it's useful to have that icon in the status area. Also, I'm not sure why dbus-launch vs straight nm-applet
[20:47] <OerHeks> atf_, boot untill that message, ctrl alt f2: login, then run: sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall   # after this reboot.
[20:47] <tripleb> I have a tiny flash drive half full. Windows, Ubuntu sees no files. Strange but IDCare.  -- I use game and the directions to format it online are for unity. How should I proceed? Kubuntu 14.04
[20:48] <atf_> OerHeks: can i ran than from the recovery mode I'm in now - or do I need to reboot?
[20:48] <tripleb> Correction- I use gnome
[20:48] <OerHeks> atf_, you can do this from recovery, if the system is mounted RW
[20:49] <OerHeks> i would do this from normal boot ..
[20:50] <pavlos> tripleb, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX will tell you the filesystem in that drive. If you dont care of the contents, you can use dd to write to that device
[20:50] <atf_> OerHeks: Thanks. Tried it. I get "0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 276 not to upgrade."
[20:51] <atf_> is it worth trying from reboot?
[20:51] <OerHeks> atf_, 276 not upgraded .. run sudo apt get update && sudo apt get full-upgrade
[20:52] <OerHeks> tripleb, if fdisk or parted give exfat, you need 2 packages > sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils # and reconnect the usb after this again
[20:53] <tripleb> pavlos: hmm. I usually use the de but let me check on the co tents. (I have  put all my flash drives in some mysterious place, except one from scale15x and it didn't get recognized. Then I came across this 126Mbyte drive. (Sic 126 My) lol)
[20:54] <tripleb> OerHeks: let me wrap my head around this "learning opportunity"
[20:55] <pavlos> tripleb, you may have a gnome-disks or gparted pgm
[20:55]  * tripleb tries to remember not to run commands she does not understand.
[20:55] <pavlos> tripleb, good advice ...
[20:56] <atf_> OerHeks: E: Invalid operation get
[20:56] <OerHeks> https://www.howtogeek.com/235655/how-to-mount-and-use-an-exfat-drive-on-linux/
[20:56] <pavlos> atf_, it is apt-get, not 2 words
[20:56] <OerHeks> oops, apt-get
[20:57] <atf_> jeje Thanks
[20:58] <OerHeks> from 16.04 and up, apt-get > apt # but both are supported
[20:58] <pavlos> atf_, have in mind, you can use just "apt" instead of "apt-get" nowadays (so the command becomes sudo apt update
[20:58] <Odd_> Anyone who knows a workaround around this issue? https://paste.md-5.net/malumanure.vhdl Been struggling with it for ages on 14.04.5 LTS.
[20:59] <atf_> thanks
[21:02] <tripleb> pavlos: ah. It contains Novell netware 386, on track DN6 Aux3 and boot wizard hidden. But the PC wouldn't boot off of it.
[21:02] <rand380> Odd_, try sudo apt-get install freeglut3-dev libglu1-mesa-dev
[21:03] <tripleb> Got info from fdisk
[21:04] <Odd_> I think that worked, rand380. Thanks. :D
[21:04] <pavlos> tripleb, do you need those files? you could just wipe the usb stick and use for other stuff
[21:04] <tripleb> Which also told me "this does not look like a partition table. Perhaps you selected the wrong device. pavlos
[21:04] <tripleb> Funny
[21:06] <pavlos> tripleb, the stick is probably sdb or sdc depending how my you have on your system (lsblk will show you all disks with their partitions
[21:06] <pavlos> *my = how many disks
[21:07] <tripleb> pavlos: OerHeks now I want to format this flash drive normally not use dd to write to it.
[21:07] <tripleb> pavlos:  it is sdb1
[21:07] <pavlos> tripleb, the stick is sdb, the partition is sdb1
[21:08] <rand380> tripleb: gparted /dev/sdb
[21:09] <tripleb> rand380: there is no gparted on a normal install. Kubuntu or Ubuntu
[21:10] <rand380> tripleb: can you unmount all mounted /dev/sdb* partitions, and format using mkfs?
[21:10] <Free_Shell> hi you need shell free account ? contact me PM
[21:10] <stevehope> its in xubuntu, im testinf final dstro now
[21:11] <tripleb> pavlos: right. Good detail. In unity I would go to disks to find format. Here I should go to system tools > administration "I assume" but I see nothing to format a disk
[21:12] <tripleb> rand380: I can do it in the DE
[21:13] <tripleb> Unmounted click, now  invisible  rand380
[21:14] <rand380> tripleb: invisible as in? still detected thru fdisk yea?
[21:15] <kyllitchat> cc
[21:15] <kyllitchat> qui es sur le 91
[21:15] <kyllitchat> qui es de polynesie
[21:24] <atf_> OerHeks: updates finaly done. '0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.'
[21:24] <tripleb> rand380: OerHeks pavlos  thank you and I did it. -- I used KDE partition Manager. Knew the device name. Inferred I needed to unmount in the partition Manager. Changed it from "fat16" to FAT32, removed boot from checklist of properties, clicked ok (twice ?why?) And Bobs my UNCLE
[21:24] <tripleb> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176707
[21:25] <tripleb> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1767072
[21:26] <tripleb> Second link please. (And now find out why my phone KB is horribly lagging. )  Again thanks I couldn't have done it without youz
[21:27] <lirammr> hi
[21:27] <lirammr> why kindle can't read my .epub file??
[21:27] <OerHeks> !ot | lirammr
[21:27] <lirammr> no
[21:27] <OerHeks> you are asked to seek help in a kindle room, it is not ubuntu
[21:27] <rand380> lmao
[21:29] <wastrel> kindle doesn't read epub, convert it to mobi with calibre
[21:37] <ATF2> OerHeks: rebooted - still no luck. Is there anyway to stop ubuntu using a grpahics driver - it seems to start OK if I hit shift duringstartup then just click resume
[21:43] <minimec> ATF2: What king of hybrid system is that Intel/AMD or Intel/Nvidia?
[21:44] <rand380> ATF2: have you tried using nonveau?
[21:44] <rand380> ATF2: nouveau*
[21:45] <ATF2> dunno - it's a Dell! How can I find out?
[21:46] <ATF2> and no - what is nonveau?
[21:47] <minimec> ATF2: 'lspci' in a terminal. There you should find all information about your cards. You could also try 'glxinfo | grep vendor' to see what card you are using right now
[21:47] <rand380> AFT2: are you on amd or nvidia?
[21:52] <ATF2_> minimec: , rand380: I can't see either - here's the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/24343477/
[21:54] <OerHeks> VMware, Inc.
[21:56] <ATF2> OerHeks: VMware, Inc - is that AMD/nvida or something else!
[21:56] <rand380> ATF2: you're in a VM? T_T
[21:56] <bradley> tomreyn: Hi i don't know if you remember but you were helping me with my printer yesterday
[21:57] <bradley> tomreyn: from the pastebin stuff it looks like the old computer is using foomatic drivers
[21:57] <ATF2> I'm new to all this so slightly lost!
[22:00] <ATF2> rand380: looks like - not my laptop agreed to install ubuntu for a freind cos windows didn;t work - wish I had never started! (I jut run lubuntu on an old laptop - no problems)
[22:00] <ATF2> anything I can do?
[22:00] <stevehope> VMware is one type ov virtual machine.... like virtualbox
[22:01] <minimec> ATF2_: Ok. It seems that you only have one GPU, a intergrated Intel... Can you check something for me? 'apt list xserver-xorg-video-intel' Is it installed?
[22:02] <stevehope> OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. (same company different software package)
[22:04] <bradley> hi. i have a network printer that isnt' connecting to a fresh install of ubuntu-gnome 16.10 but is connected to a ubuntu-gnome 10.04. here is a pastebin of the printer config of the one that is working: https://pastebin.com/QprKipgK and here is the one that is not working: https://pastebin.com/M15kpCXe
[22:04] <bradley> any suggestions?
[22:06] <bradley> can i just copy the one printer config file into the other? or is that a bad idea?
[22:07] <ATF2_> xserver-xorg-video-intel/yakkety,now 2:2.99.917+git20160706-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed,automatic
[22:09] <_djm_> Hey
[22:11] <minimec> ATF2_: Ok. Can you give us the output of 'lshw' on paste.ubuntu.com?
[22:12] <ATF2_> minimec: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24343742/
[22:15] <minimec> ATF2_: Hmmm... '*-display UNCLAIMED' Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller
[22:17] <minimec> ATF2_: If I get this right, you are not running on the GPU, but on the simple framebuffer. But others may correct me on that. Did you change something before, like 'blacklist' some drivers?
[22:18] <ATF2_> I installed with nomodeset as otherwise it failed to install
[22:18] <ATF2_> minimec: I installed with nomodeset as otherwise it failed to install
[22:19] <ATF2_> minimec: at present I'm running in recoverymode I think (I hit shift on boot and selected recover then selected resume
[22:21] <Guy1524> hey guys, is there a way to have multiple StartupWMClass fields in a .desktop file
[22:21] <Hanumaan> how to change the boot order via command line .. in ubuntu 16.04 .. actually I don't know entry number of windows I'm trying to access a remote machine .
[22:21] <Guy1524> if not, is it possible to tell wine to launch an exe w/ a specific WM Class
[22:22] <ATF2_> minimec: if I start normally I get the "system is running in low graohics mode" and it won't get passed that (when I had lubuntu installed it starts but the screen in full or weird symbols - but again I can start in in recovery mode)
[22:23] <minimec> ATF2_: There is a post on the fedora forum that could be interesting for you... http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1768303&postcount=2
[22:24] <minimec> ATF2_: Whole thread... http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1768319
[22:26] <ATF2_> minimec: tried that - i did that yesterday. Jordan_U suggested it  - no joy. 16.10 was suggested so I tried that today..
[22:27] <minimec> ATF2_: Ok. I don't understand why the card shows as 'UNCLAIMED' in lshw. That is strange. So I guessed it is not well configured. But if you already tried that... Hmmm... I am out of ideas...
[22:29] <banyantree> i like to configure my polybar but i can't display cpu temp and fontawesome icons =(
[22:29] <ATF2_> minimec: OK. thanks for giving it a shot. Unless anyone else has any ieas i might a) chuck the laptop out the window, claim it on the insurance and pursuade my friend to buy a new laptop b) post on ask ubuntu ;-)
[22:33] <minimec> Guy1524: First use 'xprop' to see the current window class for the program. If it has its 'own' window class, change the launcher accordingly.
[22:35] <ATF2_> minimec: the file mentioned in the fedora forum doesn't exist
[22:35] <minimec> ATF2_: It is strange, as the card seems to be supported. I found an arch howto and this fedroa post...
[22:35] <minimec> ATF2_: Oh... So create it with the given content.
[22:36] <ATF2_> minimec: that's what I tried yesterday - although not tried it on 16.10 so will give it a shot
[22:37] <bradley> Do i have to download drivers from Samsung to get my printer to work?
[22:38] <minimec> ATF2_: Try to boot normally afterwards...
[22:41] <YankDownUnder> bradley: What steps have you completed so far in trying to get your printer to work?
[22:41] <minimec> bradley: If they exist, it might not be a bad thing. On the other hand, if you didn't need additional drivers on the previous ubuntu installation, you shouldn't need one now...
[22:44] <bradley> YankDownUnder: i've tried comparing their config files, which actually look similiar up to the point where one computer connects and the other doesn't. i thought i needed to download the foomatic driver but it looks like it is there. i manually chose the same driver as what was working on the other computer.
[22:44] <atf_> minimec: sadly still no joy
[22:45] <bradley> YankDownUnder: then i attempt to print test pages or pages from an app (which brings up a print dialogue and it says it can't find the printer
[22:45] <YankDownUnder> bradley: So this works on one workstation - but on a similar workstation, doesn't?
[22:45] <minimec> atf_: Ok. What is your 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT' line in '/etc/default/grub'?
[22:46] <YankDownUnder> bradley: On the machine that it doesn't work with, have you deleted the printer and tried to add it again? (also might want to restart CUPS just to make sure)