[22:06] <HQRaja> brightspark: Thanks
[22:07] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Alright, let me do that
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: do you use an nvidia or ATi GPU?
[22:07] <Hilikus> my virtualbox win7guest in ubuntu host is crashing with a BSOD with "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT" any idea what could be the problem?
[22:07] <ubuntu01> im use ubuntu desktop
[22:07] <escott> !rootirc | Guest32682
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: I'd ask in #vbox
[22:07] <ubuntu01> are there a program to backup mysql databases every day?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> !backup | ubuntu01
[22:07] <jen_> okay heres where I will need help...I dont get all the ubuntu terms and stuff where can I find this folder so I can put pictures in it?
[22:07] <ubuntu01> have you link to this?
[22:08] <escott> ubuntu01, for something like mysql use mysql replication or just cron+rsync
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> jen_: put it in $HOME/Pictures   as you would expect
[22:08] <Triscar0> when installing 11.10 server, i get error when installing the packeges step. why? then i try to skip the step an install GRUB booting, and that also get error
[22:08] <jen_> okay
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Triscar0: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:08] <jen_> well I have some in there
[22:09] <ubuntu01> are there not simple program?
[22:09] <Triscar0> ActionParsnip, no ? :\
[22:09] <ubuntu01> with package manageR?
[22:09] <escott> jen_, the instructions i sent you create a $HOME/Private folder which is encrypted and cannot be accessed except when you login
[22:09] <ubuntu01> where i can backup mysql database backup every day
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Triscar0: then how did you know the ISO was complete and consistent?
[22:09] <Triscar0> ActionParsnip, i just downloaded latest at ubuntu.com
[22:09] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: mmm thats a hard question
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu01: just stop the SQL service and you can archive the files, the guys in mysql channel will have a good idea
[22:10] <jen_> escott, so that means?
[22:10] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Alright I've got it now...loads of options there. Lemme explore. Thanks =)
[22:10] <Foulad> can someone tell me what is gnome-control-center ?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Triscar0: it can still be damaged while it is downloaded, source is irrelevant
[22:10] <Triscar0> ActionParsnip, ok i will check it, thnx:D
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Triscar0: if the ISO passes MD5 test, then the image is good
[22:10] <Foulad> can someone tell me what is gnome-control-center ? and for what we can use it ?
[22:10] <escott> jen_, i think it is what you wanted. you wanted a directory that was "password" protected. so if it is encrypted then it is protected by the passwords you choose for the encryption
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: search dash for settings
[22:11] <jen_> escott, so how do I make a assword?
[22:11] <jen_> pardon me, password
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> Foulad  gnome-control-center is similar to window control panel
[22:11] <escott> jen_, you can choose whatever password you want (in fact with ecryptfs you can have multiple passwords)
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> windows*
[22:12] <jen_> but how?
[22:12] <Aldus> hello everyone. Did some gnome2 user get used to Unity a/o Gnome3 yet? :|
[22:12] <Aldus> I just find those uncomfortable. But maybe I'm doing something wrong.
[22:12] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: help me find out whats my driver plz, i use to watch it in the additional driver manager, now is not there
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: try:  sudo lshw -C display
[22:12] <escott> jen_, i dont understand what you are asking. i dont think "pick a sequence of letters numbers and symbols that you can remember" is what you want as an answer for "how to create a password"
[22:13] <theadmin> Aldus: Try XFCE (or Linux Mint). XFCE's really like GNOME 2, and Mint still has GNOME 2 available as a choice in the login screen
[22:13] <theadmin> I'm going now tho, need some sleep
 so how can i use it with online account?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: what is your GPU?
 which i can use google account on it
[22:13] <keith_linux123> hi Ubuntu community, is their anyway to  specify which audio output each app uses
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> Foulad  online account?
[22:13] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: intel corporation is the vendor
[22:14] <bonhoffer> don't know why ctl+e gives me a question mark now
[22:14] <Aldus> theadmin, thanks...  I'll have a look
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: gotcha, they usually just fly
[22:14] <keith_linux123> like if i  have banshee and skyape going , can i tell banshee to use my speakers
[22:14] <bonhoffer> in chromium on ubuntu 11.10
[22:14] <keith_linux123> and skyape to use my headset
[22:14] <jen_> escott, oii, im at my home folder right now, looking at my things, what do i do?
[22:14] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: im nvidia?
 system setting online account (11.10)
[22:14] <escott> jen_, you follow the instructions on the link i sent you
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Foulad  can't say, i don't use that
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: is it nvidia or is it intel. Or do you have that hybrid graphics nonesense
[22:15] <escott> jen_, if you have trouble following instructions, i dont see how my giving you instructions will be an improvement
[22:15] <mamece2> ActionParsnip:  product: Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[22:15] <mamece2>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[22:15] <jen_> escott, i havent been working with ubuntu no more than a year, Im still figuring things out
[22:15] <brightspark> Hi, my computer is not locking the screen when it wakes up from sleep- any help?
[22:16] <Foulad> can anyone tell use about > system setting > online account (11.10) what is it used for ?
[22:16] <jtokarchuk> Foulad: I believe it is supposed to store things like a Google account, to automate the login to some services
[22:17] <escott> jen_, everyone has to start somewhere
[22:17] <Foulad>  can anyone tell use about > system setting > online account (11.10) what is it used for ?
 like which service ?
[22:17] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: just intel is the vendor, it doesnt said nvidia
[22:17] <jtokarchuk> Foulad: Upon clicking on add, I get the opportunity to add a Google account.
[22:18] <jtokarchuk> Foulad: The (+) button on the bottom left of the window
 yea but we need someone to tell us why we need it
[22:18] <qcjn> hi, i have this at start up "error the symbol`grub_xputs`not found"
[22:19] <jtokarchuk> Foulad: I for one, using Google everything, find the idea of it immensely useful
[22:19] <qcjn> i've did the boot infoscript
[22:19] <HQRaja> The more I'm using ubuntu, the less I'm wanting to switch back to Windows 7 (which is still an awesome OS)
[22:19] <Foulad> can anyone tell use about > system setting > online account (11.10) what is it used for ?
[22:19] <Lunar_Lander> xD yeah HQRaja
[22:19] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: i still cant get ubuntu 3D to work , what can i do?
[22:19] <qcjn> http://pastebin.com/jbSGhAp8
[22:19] <jtokarchuk> HQRaja: I just made the full jump from 7 as well. Enjoying every second of it. Goodbye .net
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: do you use dual gpu/hybrid graphics, or is it just an Intel GPU?
[22:20] <qcjn> with gparted, from live cd i've seen that the boot flag was on winXP, so i ve changed it to sda2, but that didn't fixed it ?
[22:20] <HQRaja> Well I don't mind .net...in fact I didn't mind anything in Windows 7 at all, really. I just wanted to explore and appreciate Ubuntu as another alternative available, and I'm loving it so far.
[22:20] <HQRaja> I didn't know I won't miss Windows 7 while using Ubuntu
[22:20] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: just an intel, my laptop is a lenovo
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: not sure then dude, could read /var/log/Xorg.0.log   to see what's what
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: I always do a clean install of the new release rather than upgrade, seems to help avoid issues
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: there are other distros too, fun to try
[22:22] <Lunar_Lander> yea HQRaja
[22:22] <HQRaja> I wonder why is everyone so displeased with Unity though...it only took a day of getting used-to and I'm fine with it now...after setting its launcher to auto-hide, using Docky as my launcher and installing GNOME Do
[22:22] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: how can u do that without losing your info and configurations?
[22:22] <jkrish> other than the global menu unity is fine
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: I think its fine, I think its one of those things where people don't like change, some people find it genuinely slows them down
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: backups, easy
[22:23] <Foulad> what is ubuntu calendar name ?
[22:23] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: BTW tried Mint...dismissed it in favor of Ubuntu for many reasons but I guess the primary one was that Unity lets me utilize the top bar for the file edit view etc menus, while Gnome Shell no longer does that and wastes that screen real-estate on top
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Foulad: evolution has one in, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487356
[22:24] <Cataclysm> just use xubuntu with the ubuntu 10 theme
[22:24] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: And yes, I totally agree with you there...it's just that fear of change...that conformist nature of the masses
[22:24] <Cataclysm> its great
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: plus the ubuntu community is hugs compared to Mint's
[22:24] <HQRaja> Or conformist nurture, rather.
[22:24] <jtokarchuk> Is anyone around that could help me out with my forum account? I am unsure of what email address it is sitting on.
[22:24] <Cataclysm> its not about change. its about how terrible and counter-productive unity is to my dev environment
 i just used online account under system setting
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> its a marmite thing :)
[22:25] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Yeah, plus way larger.
[22:25] <lhasa> Cataclysm: that's what i was using, then yesterday added xfce to a command line install ... something like 500 less packages installed now that it's all set up
[22:25] <jkrish> has anyone had success with veetle in Opera?
[22:25] <jtokarchuk> nevermind on the forum thing, figured out my password
[22:25] <HQRaja> Cataclysm: GNOME Do FTW my friend!
[22:26] <Cataclysm> HQRaja i hope you arent being serious
[22:26] <HQRaja> Being a heavy user of Launchy on Windows, I fell in love with GNOME Do instantly
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: the dash is the same as gnome do in so many ways
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: and is aalready installed
[22:26] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Well, when it comes to launching applications, yeah
[22:27] <HQRaja> But you can do a lot more with GNOME Do
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: and it searches your $HOME for docs too
[22:27] <HQRaja> Like calculations, opening websites, sending tweets...you name it, you got it
[22:27] <Cataclysm> anyone know of a theme editor? i have one highlight to fix on a theme i downloaded. dont see any.
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: there is also a calc addon and a location addon too
[22:28] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Addons for dash?
[22:28] <corina> heloo
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/unity-cities-scope-adds-windspeed-fahrenheit-data-to-dash/
[22:29] <corina> ce se intanpla aici ?
[22:29] <corina> Ș))
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/help-test-a-unity-dash-based-calculator/
[22:29] <HQRaja> checking it out
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: as you can see, its very expanable
[22:29] <brightspark> Cataclysm, how to edit the themes is often dependent on which themes it is- clearlooks, aurora, etc.  You can probably edit the image files directly using GIMP.
[22:30] <__TALISH__> How can I run Windows inside ubuntu?
[22:30] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Nice...that's a start. Though considering the options available for GNOME Do already, it has a long way to go
[22:30] <brightspark> Excuse that horrible subject-verb agreement.
[22:30] <Lunar_Lander> VirtualBox for example __TALISH__
[22:30] <HQRaja> Still, a good start...it'll be great to have GNOME Do features built right into the OS
[22:30] <HQRaja> Without the need for a separate app for the purpose
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: well look at the age differnce, then look at what unity has in such a small amount of time
[22:31] <HQRaja> Yup...good start
[22:31] <HQRaja> Will take a while
[22:31] <HQRaja> But then, we do have GNOME Do till then
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: well canonical are coding Unity, so I bet it overtakes quite rapidly
[22:32] <HQRaja> In fact on Windows, I had to hack Launchy and Executor to perform all that GNOME Do comes with right out-of-the-box
[22:32] <iceroot> __TALISH__: vbox, vmware, xen, kvm
[22:32] <HQRaja> While usually it's the other way round with Windows programs and their Linux alternatives
[22:32] <iceroot> !vbox | __TALISH__
[22:32] <HQRaja> I was amazed!
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: plus GnomeDo is coded using mono which some people have strong aversions to
[22:32] <brightspark> Can anyone recommend me a good rpn calculator that runs in the terminal?  I'm thinking like dc but with trig and log functions at least.
[22:33] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Is mono the .NET framework for Linux?
[22:33] <Grace_> hello all...
[22:33] <Arutha> Question... Is there a best-practice guide, when using mdadm, on whether you should use the devices (/dev/sdb, etc), or should you partition it (/dev/sdb1, etc)?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: as far as I'm aware, yes
[22:33] <HQRaja> I see
[22:33] <HQRaja> Well, I don't really mind the underlying technology as long as it gets the job done =)
[22:34] <iceroot> Arutha: you are building a raid-array always on partitions
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: http://www.linuxdig.com/news_page/1097639054.php   persoanlly I don't care but some people have strong objections to mono
[22:34] <Arutha> iceroot: I know.. but mdadm is letting me do it on the devices, not the partitions.. So, I'm wondering if there's a reason to do so one way or the other.
[22:34] <escott> Arutha, you can do mdadm + LVM if you just want RAIDX everywhere. but if you want different raid types then you need different md partitions
[22:34] <__TALISH__> is ubottu a bot or real person?
[22:34] <HQRaja> Yup...those who want to use only native stuff, and strictly free software etc.
[22:35] <Sidewinder1> bot
[22:35] <__TALISH__> Ahh
[22:35] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: I doubt if MS would do what's mentioned in point no. 3 there...they're not Apple heh.
[22:35] <iceroot> Arutha: i dont see a reason to use a complete drive
[22:35] <codd> Hi, I am srand that just asked that partition question. I lost connection RIGHT after I asked my question so I did not receive any answers. If somebody did answer, could they please copy/paste it again? Thanks!
[22:36] <HQRaja> Plus it's in their own interest not to do anything like that...Mono is benefiting them indirectly by giving their .NET and C# platforms more coverage
[22:36] <HQRaja> more userbase, more developers
[22:37] <Arutha> iceroot: why not?  My intention is that these drives are part of the raid array, end of story.  I don't want to use them for anything else.  Every walthrough/guide/etc does, indeed, show mdadm on partitions, but if the partition is just going to be the full drive, and mdadm is letting me do it, I'm not sure why you shouldn't use the drive, instead of a partition on the drive?
[22:37] <escott> Arutha, if you dont need it to boot then from a management perspective whole disk mdadm + LVM may be easier
[22:37] <HQRaja> I personally like mono better than Java because on identical systems, it's snappier than Java and feels more native than Java...oh and definitely WAY better than Adobe Air, which I consider an abomination
[22:37] <escott> Arutha, although I would still have a partition table with 1 big partition
[22:38] <captainjamie> Hello. I've basically done this: apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 and then put the contents of my website in /var/www and I can view it on another computer but only if I type my IP in, how can I set it so I type www.soomething.com and I get to it? Thanks
[22:38] <__TALISH__> Can anyone tell my why my VLC isn't working, I click on it and nothing happens?
[22:38] <codd> I'll rephrase my question; can I make an extended partition with label Linux that has 3 logical partitions, / /home and swap? Because I only have 1 primary partition left. Windows already took 3.
[22:38] <escott> codd, yes you can dothat
[22:39] <codd> Great! I thought it would not be bootable :)
[22:39] <Arutha> escott: I've got a boot partition already on a different drive, so booting isn't an issue.  This gets mounted on the filesystem at /the_raid (I'm imaginitive!).  Why would you do one big partition, and use that partition in the raid?  That's what I'm trying to understand :)
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> HQRaja: grooveshark lens: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/grooveshark-scope-for-unity-music-lens.html
[22:39] <__TALISH__> Why wont my VLC open?
[22:39] <__TALISH__> And is there some sort of task manager?
[22:39] <codd> escott: then what is the point of the bootable flag of primary partitions?
[22:39] <HQRaja> ActionParsnip: Nice
[22:39] <HQRaja> That's progress there
[22:39] <escott> Arutha, because if you dont have a partition table then what happens when you boot some other os, and it looks at the disk and says "this is an unpartitioned disk, I'll help you by partitioning it"
[22:40] <escott> Arutha, in general you should never have an unpartitioned disk for that reason (although nothing prevents you)
[22:40] <Arutha> escott: ahhh.. I'm not that worried about that, tbh; I'm doing this under esxi, and I'd have to be an utter moron to mount the vmdk's to another vm :)
[22:41] <escott> Arutha, never underestimate your own future stupidity :)
[22:41] <Arutha> escott: Looking at the number of beer bottles on my desk, you very well may have a point ;)
[22:42] <Arutha> I kind of wish btrfs had the raid5 stuff finally implemented... I'd rather have all-in-one, and zfs isn't cutting it for my needs :(
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: if you run:  ps -ef | grep vlc | grep -v grep   is it running?
[22:45] <jkrish> is there a lens that would organize music albums by artists?
[22:46] <__TALISH__> NOPE
[22:46] <__TALISH__> ps -ef | grep vlc | grep -v grep did not work what is that supposed to d?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: if it outputs nothing then it is not running
[22:47] <__TALISH__> Ok and? That didnt help me?
[22:47] <__TALISH__> It never runs when I click it nothing happens.
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: if you run:  vlc    in terminal, what is output? Does the app run? use http://pastie.org to give the output if there is any
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: yes, we estabnlished that clicking the icon doesn't work, you told us that earlier...
[22:49] <jtokarchuk> Where are the screensaver settings in 11.10? Am I somewhat insane?
[22:49] <iceroot> Arutha: but there is no filesystem on /dev/sda so i dont know if it is working
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> jtokarchuk: oneiric doesn't ship with one by default
[22:49] <jtokarchuk> ActionParsnip: Thank you.
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> jtokarchuk: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/10/important-tweaks-after-installation-of.html
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> jtokarchuk: shows how to install one if you desire
[22:50] <jtokarchuk> ActionParsnip: I can install one, was just ensuring I wasn't loopy and it wasn't there already
[22:50] <Arutha> iceroot: It works in that configuration.  Copying files via samba to it, then checking it from a linux ssh session shows everything is a-ok.  escott's reasoning, though, does have a lot of merit.
[22:50] <jtokarchuk> ActionParsnip,  So thank you!
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> jtokarchuk: np :)
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: does running: vlc   in the terminal run the app? Is any text output to the terminal?
[22:55] <jkrish> .
[22:56] <l11> set private on
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> __TALISH__: btw, 'That didn't help me?' isn't a question, so the question mark is redundant
[22:58] <inc_> hi! Pls, help setup twitter-account in Pidgin.
[22:58] <l11> hi all , search for an channel with german ubuntu support?
[22:59] <l11> can someone tell me the name of it?
[22:59] <OerHeks> !de
[22:59] <gwb> hi -- in boot/grub/menu.lst, the kopt= options, are they cumulative?  That is, can I say kopt=foo, kopt_3_0_0=bar and have "foo bar" added to my kernel line?  Or must I fully specify kopt_3_0_0=foo bar ?
[22:59] <l11> thanks
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again for everything!
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> good night
[23:03] <ph0x09> how do i boot on 11.10 root shell with networking because on recovery menu i only have drop root shell read only. please help
[23:04] <escott> ph0x09, try adding the text boot option
[23:04] <ph0x09> escott: how?
[23:05] <gbase> hi, I would like to change my textmode font, but I don't know how, I would really apreciate if someone can help me
[23:06] <escott> ph0x09, in the grub menu hit e and then find the linux line and after splash put text
[23:06] <HQRaja> How do I disable the guest account?
[23:06] <derp> WELCOME TO TABLE, ANDERS_OFFICE_
[23:06] <HQRaja> 11.10 BTW
[23:06] <derp> WELCOME TO TABLE, SPARKYBLUEFOX
[23:07] <ikonia> Darwin4Ever: please stop that
[23:07] <ikonia> oops
[23:07] <ikonia> derp: please stop that
[23:07] <ikonia> (sorry Darwin4Ever )
[23:07] <derp> lol
[23:07] <derp> sorry.
[23:07] <gbase> how do I change my textmode font pls?
[23:07] <ikonia> derp: thanks
[23:10] <escott> gbase, like in the tty?
[23:10] <gbase> yes, like the console
[23:10] <gbase> terminal
[23:11] <html> anyone with andriod cell phone?
[23:11] <ikonia> html: why ?
[23:11] <escott> gbase, you can pass a kernel framebuffer argument to get a higher resolution but to actually change the font i think you have to compile a font into the kernel
[23:11] <gbase> ²it's a way to change the resolution to a lower resolution ?
[23:12] <html> ikonia,  ive been trying to get the tethering to work  with ubuntu with a connection thaat stays on for 5 secs
[23:13] <csolisr> Hello people. Does somebody know how to autostart UFW without having to open GUFW and leave it open?
[23:13] <escott> gbase, sure whatever direction you want, most people want a higher resolution. i dont know how well that will work in the future with modesetting. you arent really intended to use the tty for much other than rescuing a broken system
[23:13] <ikonia> html: from what I've read from other peoples posts that sort of issue is normally down to specific phones/android versions rather than "android in general"
[23:13] <escott> csolisr, have you checked iptables -L if your iptables are being restored you dont need to "start" anything
[23:13] <gbase> escott: I've got such a higher resolution
[23:14] <gbase> the text it's so hard to see
[23:14] <html> ikonia,  really ??  evo 4g  is what i have os:10.10 32 bit
[23:14] <vice> hello guys! how can i start a gnome-terminal which is starting another program in it: like this: vice@vaio ~$ gnome-terminal top
[23:14] <escott> gbase, why are you using the console?
[23:14] <gbase> I use ubuntu
[23:15] <csolisr> escott: I ran iptables -L, but can't figure out how to know if the iptables are being restored or not
[23:15] <html> csolisr,  im guessing a command line ,,,
[23:15] <ikonia> html: I don't have exact details as I'm not an android user, but people seem to have either very positive (it works no issues) or a bit of a fight, and the two experiences seem linked to certain devices
[23:15] <gbase> escott: I'm on my server and I really like the textmode, command line
[23:15] <escott> csolisr, if you see iptables rules then iptables are up. gufw is nothing but a set of iptables rules to load
[23:15] <escott> gbase, why not use ssh?
[23:15] <recon69_lap> hi, got a weirdness with firefox, the firefox window is missing the title bar with min/close buttons, and it's stuck to the top left of screen. anyone know how to fix
[23:15] <csolisr> gscott: It's up indeed. But only because I've left the GUFW window open. When I close, UFW closes
[23:16] <gbase> escott: I run xface on it as well and sometime I watch a movie
[23:16] <escott> csolisr, no it shouldnt
[23:16] <csolisr> In my particular case it does.
[23:16] <csolisr> For example, a port I've opened with UFW closes after closing GUFW.
[23:16] <html> ikonia,  do i need a driver ?   ..... and it shows up its there but nothing
[23:16] <escott> csolisr, your iptables rules are being dropped when you close gufw?
[23:17] <csolisr> escott: Seemingly yes. Also, I can't autostart it.
[23:17] <ikonia> html: I don't know....I don't use android
[23:17] <csolisr> I must manually open GUFW to start UFW.
[23:17] <html> ikonia,  thanks ,,, what about the bot?
[23:17] <ikonia> what about the bot ?
[23:17] <escott> csolisr, i could believe after a reboot that your iptables might be lost but
[23:18] <corigo> When booting stops on command line screen (initramfs)
[23:18] <html> ikonia,  i dont know much on how to get it to help me with this ,,, can you get it to help me
[23:19] <ikonia> html: I don't use android
[23:19] <lapiz> hi
[23:19] <ricardoromao> someone could help me with ubuntu 11.10 usb install into hp pavilion dv6 with amd A8, when the install page appear, the LCD goes off and dont turn on again to proced the install, i tryied acpi=off and noapic, but didnt work :(
[23:20] <lapiz> someone could help me on robery of password?
[23:20] <jrib> lapiz: you mean "recovery"?
[23:20] <escott> csolisr, how are you closing ufw
[23:20] <chalcedony> ricardoromao, i can see where that would be frustrating, maybe try the command line installation?
[23:20] <corigo> Do I need to do something? If I type exit, it will continue and boot, but that shouldn't be required
[23:20] <csolisr> escott: Closing the GUFW window.
[23:20] <html> ikonia,  i say thanks , but ubuntubot is what i what to get me started ,,, like !help |html
[23:21] <csolisr> Starting UFW from console doesn't work.
[23:21] <ricardoromao> chalcedony: I've tried the alternate install, but still the same
[23:21] <recon69_lap> got a weirdness with firefox, the firefox window is missing the title bar with min/close buttons, and it's stuck to the top left of screen. anyone know how to fix
[23:21] <escott> corigo, you are in the initramfs because your root system cannot be found. what is the output of cat /proc/cmdline and blkid
[23:21] <html> !andriod | html
[23:21] <lapiz> help please
[23:22] <peppux> hello
[23:22] <ricardoromao> lapiz: do you want to recovery your password?
[23:22] <lapiz> yes
[23:22] <lapiz> that is
[23:22] <lapiz> how could I do it?
[23:23] <ricardoromao> lapiz: do this, boot the computer and when appear the grub, press esc and edit the grub line of kernel, adding single at the end of the line
[23:23] <escott> csolisr, so you have gufw open and you see rules in sudo iptables -L, but when you close gufw sudo iptables -L says nothing
[23:23] <peppux> im installing ubuntu server 11.10 in raid 1, but when i finish to install it, after reboot the bios take me this message: operating system not found. why?
[23:23] <escott> peppux, what kind of raid is this
[23:23] <corigo> B00T_IMAGE=/boot/mvlinuz-3.0.0-13- generic root=UUID=... ro quitet splash vt>handoff=7
[23:23] <ricardoromao> peppux: are you installed the grub at MBR ?
[23:24] <corigo> can't open /proc/blked
[23:24] <corigo> can't open /proc/blkid
[23:24] <peppux> ricardoromao: yes
[23:24] <lapiz> Ricardo, i don't understand a word Do I need to reinstall my system?
[23:24] <escott> corigo, you hit the part that was useful. namely the uuid. and blkid is a program not a file
[23:24] <peppux> escott: raid 1
[23:24] <csolisr> escott: Well, I just tried it and iptables -L keeps working after closing GUFW
[23:24] <csolisr> It's until I reboot that the problems arise
[23:25] <escott> peppux, but what raid controller, mdadm or some kind of hardware raid
[23:25] <peppux> escott: mdadm
[23:25] <lapiz> what is the grub ? i just speak a little english
[23:25] <nando> can someone help me get my broadcom b4306 wireless adapter working. Cant remember what I did the last time. Ive done it a few times i just cant remember what I did.
[23:25] <ricardoromao> lapiz, where are you from ?
[23:25] <escott> csolisr, that makes sense. there is a service called iptables-save and iptables-restore that saves and loads the rules. add it to your boot with rc-update
[23:25] <lapiz> Spain
[23:26] <csolisr> escott: The command would be "sudo rc-update"...?
[23:26] <recon69_lap> thinks nando needs to take notes
[23:26] <ricardoromao> I'll search some help to you, give me a  minute
[23:26] <nando> hahah yeah I do
[23:26] <corigo> escott: so you want me to run blkid on the UUID?
[23:26] <allanjum> hola
[23:26] <lapiz> hola?
[23:26] <allanjum> Hi XD
[23:26] <csolisr> allanjum: Hola, pero recuerde que acá es en inglés. Speak English please.
[23:26] <escott> corigo, no i want you to run blkid and try to find that uuid
[23:26] <ricardoromao> lapiz: follow this steps: http://www.debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub
[23:26] <csolisr> En español es #ubuntu-es creo
[23:27] <klj613> hello, when i execute "sudo apt-get install php5-fpm" it says theres no installation candidate? what am i doing wrong
[23:27] <nando> anyone
[23:27] <ricardoromao> klj613, nothing, the package dont exists
[23:28] <corigo> cmdline tells me the UUID already
[23:28] <csolisr> escott: There's no "rc-update" command.
[23:28] <chalcedony> how can i find the path to a directory?
[23:29] <nando> can someone help me get my broadcom b4306 wireless adapter working. Cant remember what I did the last time. Ive done it a few times i just cant remember what I did.
[23:29] <escott> csolisr, update-rc.d
[23:30] <csolisr> escott: Is it /var/etc/update-rc.d/networking ?
[23:30] <lapiz> Ok I'll try it. Thank's
[23:30] <csolisr> * var/lib
[23:30] <corigo> what should I do with it?
[23:31] <cebrere> hey how can i find out which version of ubuntu that i'm running
[23:32] <peppux> why can't i remove a raid partition?
[23:32] <mdel> can anyone recommend a bluetooth adapter from amazon?
[23:32] <mdel> peppux: cat /proc/version
[23:32] <ricardoromao> someone could help me with ubuntu 11.10 usb install into hp pavilion dv6 with amd A8, when the install page appear, the LCD goes off and dont turn on again to proced the install, i tried acpi=off and noapic, but didnt work :(
[23:32] <gbase> ²²²/wc
[23:32] <peppux> mdel: im with livecd
[23:32] <peppux> mdel: i want to install ubuntu server
[23:32] <escott> csolisr,  it may just be iptables-save https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Saving_iptables
[23:33] <mdel> peppux: so?
[23:33] <peppux> mdel: ubuntu server 11.10
[23:33] <mdel> err, sorry
[23:33] <mdel> that was for cebrere
[23:33] <peppux> mdel: ?
[23:33] <escott> corigo, no cmdline tells you want it is looking for. we need to know if that device exists
[23:34] <mdel> peppux: i was telling cebrere how to find the currently running version of ubuntu
[23:34] <corigo> yes it does
[23:34] <mdel> not sure about your issue
[23:34] <corigo> cmd line only lists the boot partition though, and not the swap or tertiary drives
[23:35] <peppux> mdel: ok
[23:36] <corigo> escott: blkid tells me that /dev/sda1 matches the UUID in the command line it also tells me the UUID of my swap partition and the 3 RAID member drives
[23:37] <escott> corigo, so that means it should be able to find the root partition. which suggests that the root partition might be corrupted. you can try to mount it ro, and fsck it from within the initramfs, or you could boot a livecd
[23:37] <csolisr> escott: I've been reading. There are several options, some of which may break other programs
[23:37] <csolisr> Currently I'm using UFW. Which method would you recommend me?
[23:37] <corigo> escott: if I simply type exit, it will boot to the boot partition no problem
[23:38] <escott> csolisr, ill be honest im not sure how mine get restored. i just know that they are
[23:38] <corigo> but my RAID5 will be inactive
[23:38] <lapiz> hi
[23:41] <corigo> I can mount it, but fsck is not found
[23:42] <escott> corigo, fsck is not in the initramfs, you have to chroot to the real root and then fsck
[23:42] <lapiz> I've lost my password for the chat xchat. someone told me to try 'http://deubuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub' but there are too many entrys
[23:42] <csolisr> Fine. If it doesn't work on the next boot I'll ask again
[23:43] <escott> lapiz, they did not understand your question. if you just need an irc password then see !register
[23:43] <escott> !register | lapiz
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> lapiz: ask in #freenode for your IRC password reset
[23:45] <mdel> can anyone recommend a bluetooth adapter from amazon that will work with linux
[23:46] <corigo> escott: so your initial suggestion was to 'mount -ro /dev/sda1' yes?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> mdel: bluetooth is bluetooth, there are tiny cheap ones which work well
[23:46] <mdel> ActionParsnip: not true... some do not work without the proper drivers
[23:46] <mdel> some of which are proprietary
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> mdel: never seen that ever
[23:47] <mdel> ActionParsnip: its all over the net...
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> mdel: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-Bluetooth-USB-Dongle-Version/dp/B0013BFQUE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323042437&sr=8-1
[23:47] <mdel> ActionParsnip: awesome
[23:47] <mdel> gotta find it in the US now.. :)
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> cheap as chips, literally
[23:48] <CriM> Alguien habla español
[23:48] <CriM> ?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> !es
[23:49] <villevic> Hello, I have a question
[23:49] <villevic> Is it possible to perform a netinstall from the standard cd
[23:49] <villevic> Not the alternative one
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> villevic: not sure, good question
[23:50] <villevic> Really hope so,
[23:50] <blackstratusrt> ng
[23:50] <villevic> Cause don't have any cds left and my livecd wont install, always have that problem with debian distros
[23:52] <villevic> ng questionmark
[23:53] <dueyfinster> exit
[23:53] <villevic> But what is the name of the alternative installer
[23:53] <villevic> maybe it's included on the livecd aswell
[23:55] <MR_JOC> hey averyone
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> villevic: try a usb install
[23:55] <villevic> no usbstick either
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> gah
[23:56] <villevic> If i could just find out what the installer is called
[23:56] <villevic> maybe I can just launch it from terminal
[23:57] <meerkats> is quake free to play?
[23:57] <villevic> Darn, irritating
[23:58] <villevic> I wish there was a netinstall option available on the livecd
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: the engine is free, the levels and textures etc (wads) are not
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> !find quake
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> !info ioquake3
[23:59] <atdiehm_lappy> which is the generally preferred app for ipod management?  I've been trying with for a few hours and can't get anything to save... was wondering if this is the one most used, or if I should try something else...


[05:08] <pitti> Good morning
[06:52] <jibel> Good morning
[06:56] <jibel> pitti, Good morning
[06:56] <pitti> bonjour jibel, ça va ?
[06:56] <jibel> pitti, ça va et toi?
[06:56] <pitti> jibel: ça va bien ! j'ai eu un week-end calm
[06:57] <jibel> pitti, me too. Visit to the museum with the kids on Saturday and long walk along the "baie du mont saint michel" yesterday afternoon
[06:59] <jibel> pitti, I saw you restarted apport, but it's likely that it will fail again because last upload of dpkg removed /usr/sbin/dpkg-divert
[06:59] <pitti> eh?
[06:59] <jibel> pitti, in 1.17.0
[07:00] <pitti> I still have it
[07:00] <pitti> oh, in -proposed?
[07:00] <jibel> yes in proposed
[07:00] <pitti> that sounds like a critical regression
[07:00] <jibel> Remove update-alternatives, dpkg-divert and dpkg-statoverride
[07:00] <jibel>     compatibility symlinks under /usr/sbin/.
[07:01] <pitti> that's fine, but it should still be under /usr/bin/
[07:01] <jibel> yes of course, I haven't verified
[07:03] <jibel> but apport uses the absolute path to /usr/sbin/
[07:03] <pitti> oh
[07:03] <jibel> pitti, also, the new CI lab has networking issues
[07:03] <pitti> jibel: thanks for pointoing out
[07:03] <pitti> jibel: yeah, it's being installing dependencies for an hour; ftpmaster is sloooooooow
[07:03] <pitti> (or rather, the connection to it)
[07:04] <jibel> pitti, and all the provisioning of VMs fails because of that :/
[07:05] <jibel> pitti, I'll ask CI but not sure I'm welcome on this channel anymore :)
[07:05] <pitti> lol
[07:07] <jibel> pitti, othe failures, in linuxinfo, I proposed a patch to Debian which has been synced back to Ubuntu
[07:07] <jibel> pitti, and doxygen fails because gpg sends a warning to stderr
[07:07] <jibel> pitti, this is because keys are not installed in the testbed
[07:08] <jibel> pitti, I think I'll install debian-keyring by default
[07:08] <jibel> there was the same error with pbuilder IIRC
[07:08] <pitti> argh
[07:08] <pitti> jibel: fixed dpkg-divert path in apport trunk, I'll do an upload ASAP
[07:09] <jibel> good to see autopkgtest is sometimes useful :)
[07:31] <jibel> as expected, I hailed them, no response :/
[07:39] <pitti> jibel: boost the signal and rotate the frequencies!
[07:39] <pitti> and divert power from the auxiliary captain's seat heating
[07:43] <DanChapman> good morning all
[07:45] <elfy> morning DanChapman
[07:45] <elfy> I assume you've not got that mail from me yet then :)
[07:46] <DanChapman> elfy good morning, it would appear not :-(
[07:46] <DanChapman> I'll see if i can get it sorted today
[07:46] <elfy> odd
[07:46] <DanChapman> indeed very odd
[09:35] <DanChapman> xnox, hey hope you had a good weekend :-) Where can I create bugs for the autopilot tests, do i just file them against the ubiquity package as lp:ubiquity doesn't track bugs? if so could you add an autopilot tag which i can tag them with
[09:37] <xnox> DanChapman: yes. file bugs only against the ubuntu package, and tag them autopilot (as otherwise they will be hard to find in the bug flood there)
[09:38] <DanChapman> xnox, excellent, thanks.
[11:01] <slickymaster> good morning all
[11:02] <slickymaster> balloons: ping
[11:03] <DanChapman> morning slickymaster o/
[11:03] <slickymaster> hi DanChapman, how are you?
[11:03] <DanChapman> slickymaster, i'm great thanks :-) yourself?
[11:04] <slickymaster> great also DanChapman, thanks
[15:21] <balloons> slickymaster, did you ping sometime this morning?
[15:24] <slickymaster> hi balloons, yes
[15:24] <slickymaster> balloons: it concerns https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/+bug/1251332,
[15:25] <slickymaster> balloons: after some digging around, what I was able to find out is that there's no proposed replacement for either gksu nor for gksudo in Ubuntu. Apparently what is being advised is the use of pkexec, which is not a graphical frontend for sudo but a graphical frontend for PolicyKit.
[15:25] <slickymaster> balloons:  so, IMO, that's leave us with two choices, regarding it, either we instruct users to install gksu in their system or we advise them to run sudo -i in a terminal in order to get a root prompt and then launch whatever graphical application needed
[15:26] <slickymaster> balloons: after discussing it with knome we felt like I should ask you what you think?
[15:28] <balloons> slickymaster, I discussed this with elfy a bit as well. You are correct in that there is no direct replacement, but the consensus seemed to be use sudo
[15:28] <elfy> -i
[15:28] <slickymaster> hi elfy
[15:28] <elfy> hey
[15:29] <slickymaster> balloons, elfy, so the general idea is to use sudo -i to get to a root prompt and there launch whatever graphical application, right?
[15:30] <elfy> seems so
[15:30] <elfy> goes against the grain for many people - after years of them saying no no no - don't use sudo for gui apps
[15:30] <slickymaster> okie dokie, I'll re-write chapter 7 of xubuntu-docs and will propose a merge
[15:30] <slickymaster> thanks guys
[15:32] <cgoldberg> balloons, hey.. did you see my Ubuntu Touch Core Apps video?  it's pretty neat:  http://coreygoldberg.blogspot.com/2013/11/gource-visualization-of-ubuntu-touch.html
[15:33] <balloons> cgoldberg, ohh a fresh one.. nice!
[15:33] <balloons> slickymaster, elfy yep.. heh..
[15:33] <cgoldberg> it's all the core apps together.
[15:33] <balloons> cgoldberg, OHH.. I get it now
[15:33] <balloons> all at once
[15:34] <cgoldberg> yup
[15:39] <elopio> good morning!
[15:39] <cgoldberg> hey elopio
[15:39] <elopio> hey balloons, the delete list item fix landed yesterday.
[15:39] <elopio> balloons: I'll need more info about the tabs not being open by name. Why do they don't have an objectName set?
[15:39] <elopio> cgoldberg: hello.
[15:39] <balloons> elopio, hello!
[15:40] <balloons> elopio, they aren't set with an object name because they are dynamically generated  I believe
[15:40] <balloons> specifically we're talking about rss reader. a tab is made for each topic? after you make it
[15:43] <elopio> balloons: yes, I get that. But I would hope even for dynamically generated tabs to be added with an objectName. Even like objectName='londonTab' would help.
[15:43] <elopio> balloons: if it's failing currently in trunk, I can check in the evening.
[15:43] <balloons> elopio, let me know when you take a look and I'll have a look again. I didn't want to rush into filing a bug on it till I got your opinion
[15:44] <balloons> perhaps there is something we can do in the qml, etc...
[15:45] <elopio> balloons: ok, after lunch I hope to get some time.
[15:45] <elopio> now I'm trying to merge all the SDK branches from two weeks ago.
[16:36] <cking> any idea why I'm seeing each article twice on http://qa.ubuntu.com ?
[16:38] <balloons> cking, that seems to creep up a lot
[16:40]  * elfy didn't even know that page
[16:41] <cking> balloons, it's certainly a little weird, bit ironic really
[16:41] <balloons> I believe it's just my feed that does it
[16:42] <elfy> cking: seems like a good idea to me - I have trouble getting anyone to take any notice of what I say :)
[16:42]  * elfy starts sending mails twice :p
[16:43]  * balloons switched the feed settings again
[16:43] <balloons> how's it look now?
[16:45] <cking> balloons, yay, fixed :-) thanks
[16:46] <slickymaster> bbl
[16:55] <balloons> elfy, lol @ sending duplicate mails
[16:56] <balloons> I'll judge the response and then possibly send again if it's not good enough, lol
[16:56] <elfy> :D
[17:20] <dkessel> good evening
[17:23] <balloons> dkessel, evening to you
[17:24] <dkessel> today is inofficial lubuntu qa evening ;)
[17:25] <balloons> dkessel, ohh nice..
[17:25] <balloons> what's on the agenda?
[17:25] <balloons> dkessel, you going to be able to make any vUDS sessions?
[17:26] <dkessel> balloons, package testing - the qa tracker tests are sooo empty...
[17:26] <dkessel> balloons, no i won't... have to work
[17:26] <elfy> same here dkessel
[17:27] <elfy> though I was expecting to not be, but got called in
[17:27] <balloons> dkessel, ahh gotcha
[17:27] <balloons> yea, it's so hard to find a time for everyone, because we are all across the world
[17:27] <dkessel> elfy, well I did not take a day off, which I would have to...
[17:28]  * balloons waves to doug5
[17:28]  * dkessel looks up testdrive bugs... searches "UI unresponsive after clicking save button in settings"
[17:28] <doug5> balloons, hello! sorry man, still bit busy :(
[17:29] <balloons> doug5, no worries at all. I think between the two mp's we've done we have a quasi working solution. I have a quick patch to make to file manager, then onto calendar :-)
[17:29] <balloons> it
[17:30] <doug5> balloons, ahah I link "quasi" working solution :)
[17:30] <doug5> *like
[17:31] <balloons> doug5, very technical wording :-)
[18:00] <dkessel> anybody using testdrive, feel free to confirm bug 1252402 ;)
[18:01] <senan> balloons,hi
[18:01] <balloons> senan, hello
[18:02] <senan> balloons, is there any way to disable autocomplete in gtkfilechooserentry
[18:02] <balloons> dkessel, I can try on trusty.. oO you are on trusty too :-)
[18:02] <senan> balloons, when I type /home, it will complete /home/senan
[18:02] <balloons> senan, ahh ok I understand what you mean
[18:03] <balloons> I know at one point we simply overwrote the text completely and typed in our own full path
[18:03] <senan> assertion will fail there..what I type is not equal to what I get
[18:03] <DanChapman> senan just do self.mouse.press_and_release('Delete') at the end of typing
[18:03] <DanChapman> :-)
[18:04] <balloons> ^^ even better than what I was going to propose
[18:04] <senan> DanChapman, I thought you are offline
[18:04] <balloons> dkessel, for me I didn't even have to sync. just open settings and hit save. don't even change anything
[18:04] <senan> :)
[18:04] <balloons> it locks up
[18:04] <DanChapman> senan ive just got home :-)
[18:04] <dkessel> balloons, yeah i switched shortly after you asked my if i'm on trusty :)
[18:04] <dkessel> balloons, "great" :)
[18:06] <balloons> I wonder if it's giving any output on the command line
[18:06] <balloons> I also wonder if it's old config issue
[18:06] <balloons> let me try deleting my config first
[18:07] <balloons> dkessel, config files are in /etc/testdriverc, ~/.testdriverc and ~/.config/testdrive/testdriverc
[18:07] <dkessel> ...and it gets stuck configuring the virtualbox machine... once again... :/
[18:08] <dkessel> balloons, ok i'll try deleting them
[18:08] <senan> DanChapman, its self.keyboard.press_and_release right
[18:09] <balloons> DanChapman, ty.. you ready for UDS mate?
[18:09] <balloons> dkessel, I'm doing the same
[18:09] <dkessel> i left /etc/testdriverc and deleted the config in ~ ... stays the same
[18:09] <DanChapman> lol yeah it is senan sorry :-)
[18:10] <dkessel> terminal output: /usr/bin/testdrive-gtk:190: Warning: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.38.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2475: signal 'child-added' is invalid for instance '0x180ac30' of type 'GtkMenu'
[18:10] <dkessel>   self.appindicator.set_menu(self.app_indicator_menu)
[18:10] <balloons> dkessel, yep, no change
[18:11] <balloons> probably could add that terminal output to the report.
[18:13] <dkessel> balloons, did that
[18:15] <balloons> dkessel, well jackson will be around in a few most likely.. but you are also free to hack on fixing it I'm sure :-p
[18:16] <dkessel> nah, i want to get up and running with the lubuntu tests... i have limited time
[18:23] <DanChapman> balloons, I am indeed. I won't be able to go to many sessions tomorrow as its my little ones 2nd birthday, I plan to make to make the community workflow session and a couple of the later ones. But weds and thurs I'm sorting my timetable now :-)
[18:27] <jibel> DanChapman, I merged the 2 pending MPs you submitted and fixing pep8 to add autopilot/ to run-pep8 and use the ~same style than the rest of the code.
[18:28] <balloons> dkessel, ahh.. heh, finding a bug before you even start eh?
[18:28] <jibel> DanChapman, also, the server that run ubiquity tests is still down, I hope it'll be back soon
[18:28] <dkessel> balloons, business as usual...
[18:29] <dkessel> "lubuntu nexus7 session"? =)
[18:43] <DanChapman> jibel, brilliant thanks :-) yes It will be good to get them running again, so will run-pep8 run when using ./debian/rules clean?
[18:43]  * DanChapman goes to check for himself :-)
[18:44] <DanChapman> jibel, not to worry i see it does pyflakes and pep8 :-)
[18:48] <balloons> hey Noskcaj :-) dkessel and I were just talking about a new bug in testdrive dkessel discovered
[18:49] <Noskcaj> yeah?
[18:49] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1252402
[18:49] <balloons> do you have saucy or you on trusty Noskcaj ?
[18:50] <Noskcaj> trusty
[18:50] <balloons> elopio, so if the swipe to delete is landed, I'm wondering why this still fails: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/use-default-swipe-delete/+merge/191905
[18:51] <Noskcaj> It might just be the startup freeze bug, which i'm not sure how to fix. Can you leave testdrive open for 2-3 minutes first?
[18:52] <balloons> Noskcaj, sure.. I'll leave it open for a few mins right now and try
[18:52] <Noskcaj> You probably would have noticed the startup issue already though
[18:52] <elopio> balloons: I suppose the latest toolkit is not yet on the image or PPA that test uses.
[18:53] <elopio> I added a catch explicitly for that case.
[18:53] <balloons> elopio, ok fair enough..
[18:58] <dkessel> next bug: 1252421
[19:00] <balloons> dkessel, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gnumeric
[19:00] <dkessel> balloons, ... yes?
[19:01] <balloons> dkessel, just thought it would be helpful to see.. indeed yelp doesn't seem to be listed unless it's a depends of depends, etc
[19:01] <dkessel> maybe it once used evince to display the help... just guessing
[19:02] <dkessel> i definately like the speed of lubuntu... wow
[19:13] <dkessel> lol... no i even get an endless apport loop while trying to report a crash bug...
[19:15] <dkessel> balloons, is it correct to file a bug for "lightdm" if this here fails?: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55992/testcases/1603/results
[19:16] <dkessel> it does not tell me the package...
[19:17] <jibel> DanChapman, it will but currently run-pep8 doesn't scan autopilot, I'll add that once it's pep8 compliant :)
[19:18] <thomi> jibel: autopilot is pep8 compliant...
[19:18]  * balloons holds his breath
[19:18] <balloons> dkessel, yes.. and should it be labeled better?
[19:19] <dkessel> balloons, probably :)
[19:19] <jibel> thomi, I should have written autopilot/ . I was talking about autopilot tests of ubiquity not autopilot itself :)
[19:20] <thomi> jibel: oh, ok then - just making usre :)
[19:21] <thomi> jibel: that confuses me *all the time* :)
[19:22] <balloons> dkessel, I changed to just "lightdm
[19:26] <dkessel> bye-bye thunderbird...
[19:26]  * dkessel sighs
[19:28] <dkessel> hm, unsure about the package for bug 1252435
[19:29] <dkessel> three new critical bugs... should i really continue? :D
[19:29] <balloons> bye bye thunderbird?
[19:31] <balloons> dkessel, I know lubuntu has a big cycle ahead of them! they are going to be an lts for the first time, that's the goal
[19:31] <balloons> and the longer term plan is to switch from gtk to qt ;-)
[19:31] <dkessel> balloons, yes the first LTS... that's actually why i thought i should start testing today...
[19:32] <dkessel> thunderbird just crashed without a notice...
[19:32] <dkessel> balloons, I have problems with a testcase: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1619/info
[19:32] <balloons> ahh.. sounds like a lot of lubuntu specific stuff.. it works for me.. I use it everyday as my cliebt
[19:33] <balloons> dkessel, sure, what's the issue?
[19:33] <dkessel> balloons - there is no search box ;) Click on "Search a package" field. Fill in "gedit" and hit enter
[19:33] <dkessel> A list with search results appears
[19:34] <elfy> dkessel: if there is a bug with a testcase - report it - noting which testcase ID - I check them - even ones that aren't my responsibility
[19:34] <dkessel> elfy, ok... against what do i report?
[19:34] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+filebug
[19:34] <dkessel> ok
[19:35] <dkessel> elfy, nvm ^
[19:35] <balloons> hehe.. I tried to be fast
[19:35] <balloons> thanks dkessel !
[19:35] <elfy> just make sure to actually put the testcase ID or I'll mark it wishlist :D
[19:36] <dkessel> balloons, or could it be a bug with the software center not having a search option?
[19:37] <dkessel> that feels like a bug actually...
[19:37] <balloons> that's a lubuntu specific question so I don't know the answer off the top of my head
[19:37] <balloons> is phillw about?
[19:37] <elfy> I'd no know either - nor be able to check quickly - I broke vbox :p
[19:38] <dkessel> elfy - hmm, I can file my testcase bug as a reminder to check ;)
[19:38] <elfy> dkessel: file it :)
[19:38] <balloons> dkessel, file it and mark it as affecting testcases and the package
[19:39] <balloons> we can sort of which is which and mark the other invalid ;-)(
[19:39] <dkessel> bug 1252438, there you go
[19:41] <balloons> dkessel, excellent
[19:52] <dkessel> balloons, unsure about the verification step here: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1601/info
[19:52] <balloons> which verification step?
[19:52] <dkessel> "The terminal shows the name "qa-lubuntu"" question: as window title, or as tab title?
[19:55] <dkessel> balloons ^
[19:56] <balloons> mm.. indeed, it's ambigious. I'd file something to get that cleaned up
[19:57] <dkessel> gnome-terminal renames the whole window...
[19:57] <balloons> dkessel, afaik it should change both, because the window title displays the tab title
[19:57] <balloons> but I don't use lxterminal
[19:57] <dkessel> balloons, we got a bug then :)
[19:57] <balloons> this might be a dual filing again :-)
[19:58] <dkessel> meh :)
[19:58] <balloons> it's good to point these out for the lubuntu folks.. they know what they mean, but we don't :-)
[19:58] <dkessel> ok last bug report for today...
[20:04] <dkessel> elfy, bug 1252451 with test ID 1601 included ;)
[20:04] <dkessel> ok thats it for tonight....
[20:05] <elfy> dkessel: you don't need to ping me with them I'm subscribed to manual testing bugs :)
[20:06] <elfy> but thanks anyway :)
[20:06] <dkessel> elfy, alright
[20:06] <dkessel> good night :)
[20:06] <elfy> night
[20:20] <balloons> hello Letozaf_
[20:20] <Letozaf_> balloons, hi
[20:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, but is the test_add_remove_feed_and_topic rssreader test failing or is it just because the dashboard is running the old versions ?
[20:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/
[20:23] <balloons> Letozaf_, still the old version
[20:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh fine, was worried :P
[20:23] <balloons> tomorrow fingers crossed the new stuff will hit the dash :-)
[20:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, cool can't wait
[20:52] <balloons> Letozaf_, what's your improved script to test click apps again?
[20:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, I copied it here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6439472/
[20:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, it's handy for testing on device
[20:56] <balloons> Letozaf_, ty
[20:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, yw